April 6, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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The Joe Rogan experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day I think that CIA guy on with the hair Yeah And that guy So after the pod I guess we're up Let's go. | |
| You want to go? | ||
| We're rolling. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, he came on, and he was very, like, forthcoming. | ||
| First of all, he's very charming, but, like, when you're talking to anybody who's worked for the CIA, you're looking at him through the same lens as you look at, like, a therapist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where it's like, wait, are you analyzing? | ||
| Like, what's going on? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| Very charming, very smart, very, like, seems to really know what's going on in the world. | ||
| But, like, straight up told us. | ||
| He's like, yeah, you know, I guess one of the advantages I have is, like, I'm pretty close to a sociopath. | ||
| Like, I'm not there. | ||
| But, like, I don't feel the same emotions that everybody feels. | ||
| There's, like, a lack of guilt. | ||
| But I know when I should feel it in these moments. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| But that's a huge advantage. | ||
| Imagine if you're trying to, like, find assets and flip assets. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you and I, like, build a relationship with somebody and we, like, feel empathy for them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe we wouldn't be able to say, hey, now it's time for you to cough up the information or else. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But somebody else in that position might. | ||
| So I would imagine if you were the fucking CIA, you're like, okay, we're looking for people who have gone through these things in their life that have curated this kind of like personality type. | ||
| Well, isn't it just like part of the gig? | ||
| Like here's for instance, like your bit about Puffy. | ||
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Right. | |
| How you're going to connect these two fucking dots? | ||
| That bit is like, look, you don't have any real personal beef with Diddy, but it's got to go down. | ||
| The bits are there. | ||
| I'm a gold miner. | ||
| I just found some gold. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Maybe I'm a sociopath. | ||
| It's not that you're a sociopath, it's just that that's part of the gig. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, you're not a sociopath with your friends. | ||
| No, I think I'm maybe an empath. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But I guess it's one of those things where, like, you justify, you go, okay, I think this person might have done something bad. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he can get jokes, and we're all gonna tell jokes. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| I'm not pressing fucking charges. | ||
| Well, not only that, you're not the guy who's out there like calling the New York Times, hey, you know what I heard about Diddy? | ||
| By the way, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You're just like, it's there. | ||
| I mean, it's not just there. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| My fucking news feed is dominated by it. | ||
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unidentified
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Yes. | |
| Fox News, CNN, everyone. | ||
| There's raids at Diddy's house. | ||
| Who was the guy that was running around with a sports bra on? | ||
| Did you see that one dude? | ||
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No, this is in LA. Oh my god, I gotta send you this. | |
| Wait, while the raids are happening? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He got caught up in the raid and he was yelling, I'm a celebrity! | ||
| I'm a celebrity! | ||
| It was like one of the most hilarious clips. | ||
| Hold on, I'm gonna find you this. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| Do you know what I'm talking about, Jamie? | ||
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unidentified
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Nope. | |
| But you bring up a good point, which is like, are there ever situations where you feel you won't... | ||
| Wait till you see this. | ||
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unidentified
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He's wearing what appears to be a black sports bra. | |
| Hold on, we're gonna play it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, put your headphones on so you can hear it. | ||
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unidentified
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I see Santana. | |
| Oh! | ||
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unidentified
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Saucy! | |
| Look at this. | ||
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unidentified
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Wearing what appears to be a black sports bra, red tights, and the performer's signature trimmed beard and long eyelashes. | |
| Yeah, this is... | ||
| Joe, this is Saucy Santana. | ||
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Look at him, look at him, look at him. | |
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Saliva on the beard is crazy. | ||
| Saliva on the beard. | ||
| He definitely came from a Diddy party. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he was at Diddy's house. | ||
| I bet he was. | ||
| So, I guess Diddy just kept people at his houses. | ||
| Because he's got multiple houses and he's just had freak out parties. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Look at Saucy Santana go! | ||
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unidentified
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Go Saucy! | |
| No, Saucy's crazy. | ||
| Have you seen Saucy twerk? | ||
| I didn't even know Saucy existed until I saw that video. | ||
| Oh, Saucy can throw it down. | ||
| This is Booty by Saucy Tanatana. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, Jesus, Saucy. | |
| Give me some of this. | ||
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unidentified
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I don't even know if it's Diddy's artist, but Saucy's like a popular figure in music. | |
| They're staying at his house. | ||
| No, Diddy's in a tricky situation. | ||
| Boy, that's the understatement of the year. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's over. | ||
| You think it's over? | ||
| I think it's over for him as like a figure in entertainment. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But do you think it's over for him as far as he gets a cell right next to R. Kelly? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think he gets locked up. | ||
| I think he skates. | ||
| I think he skates. | ||
| Or he goes to Bali. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's a move, huh? | ||
| I mean, Russell's out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Has he been formally charged, or does he just know that the shit is out there? | ||
| I think there's just so much shit out there. | ||
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I think those rappers did some wild shit. | |
| Especially in the 90s? | ||
| The music business. | ||
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unidentified
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It's not just the music business. | |
| It's the extortion business. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the rap game was crazy. | ||
| That's a thing a lot of people don't realize. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Back in the day, especially like early rap game, you weren't just going to play at, you know, what's the random theater that you would play in LA? What's like a big theater? | ||
| I'm trying to think. | ||
| The Orpheum or something like that. | ||
| Wiltern. | ||
| Wiltern. | ||
| Some guys were explaining to me, he was like, you would play at the local hood club. | ||
| There was like a hood club that you could perform at. | ||
| And then that was owned by the local drug dealer that was washing money there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this is where the idea of like checking in comes from. | ||
| Have you heard of this term? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Checking in was basically like, hey, I want to make sure we're good because you're going to pay me. | ||
| And if I don't check in, you might rob me because you're putting me up at the hotel and you know everything that's going on and you're a drug dealer. | ||
| So you don't play by the rules. | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| When you come to Houston... | ||
| You're checking in with certain people. | ||
| Mr. Prince! | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Mr. Prince! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't gotta check in, Joe. | ||
| You gotta check in, say hi. | ||
| Joe don't gotta check in. | ||
| I'm not in that business. | ||
| I say hi. | ||
| You've had him on here, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's a legend in the game. | ||
| He's a legend. | ||
| Out of respect, I say hi. | ||
| There you go. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| There you go. | ||
| So what is like... | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| How does a guy like him... | ||
| Like, I'm trying to think. | ||
| Like, how do you... | ||
| How do you navigate that to the point where people have this, like, respect and fear because of what they assume you've done in the street world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you're also operating legitimately... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And nobody can get you. | ||
| They try. | ||
| They try. | ||
| Boy, they try with him many times. | ||
| And do you think they just give up? | ||
| I don't think they have anything. | ||
| If they had something, they would have brought it. | ||
| You know, if they have something on a guy like that, they try to get him. | ||
| But he's clever. | ||
| He's playing many levels. | ||
| He's like one of those dudes, you ever see a chess tournament where a guy walks in and there's ten different players and he just walks and goes to each move? | ||
| And goes to the next board and makes a move, goes to the next board, makes a move, then he beats everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So where does a guy like that learn that? | ||
| That's what I'm trying to understand. | ||
| Streets. | ||
| Streets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He learns that. | ||
| I mean, it's all about keeping people close. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Respect. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Giving respect. | ||
| Getting respect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Making sure that you cover all your statements. | ||
| Yeah, like if you say something, you have to make sure you do it. | ||
| You cover it, yeah. | ||
| 100% of the time. | ||
| And there's probably times in his life where he's went, like if it's poker, he probably went all in a few times. | ||
| Not in terms of money, but like this decision makes or breaks me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder how many make or break moments he's had. | ||
| Well, it depends on what's actually true and what's not true in terms of accusations. | ||
| If some of the accusations are true, that kind of covers things. | ||
| When folks vanish. | ||
| When someone does abracadabra, folks vanish. | ||
| Yeah, that's effective. | ||
| Fear is effective, man. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| And it should be. | ||
| Because, listen, all the shit that's going on right now in the world, In America, we get so soft and we think none of that shit's going to happen here. | ||
| All that murder, war, drones, assassinations, that's not going to happen here. | ||
| Unless you know the Clintons. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Unless you know some shit. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Unless you know some shit about old Bill. | ||
| And then you wind up shooting yourself in the chest while hanging from an extension cord. | ||
| Wait, did that happen? | ||
| Oh yeah, you don't know that guy? | ||
| Shot himself in the chest. | ||
| Joe, that seems really hard to do. | ||
| With a shotgun. | ||
| Yeah, how do you do such a thing? | ||
| While you're hanging. | ||
| This is a guy that brought Epstein to the White House at least seven times. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| We'll find out. | ||
| So they found him at a ranch 30 minutes from his house, hanging by an electrical cord from a tree with a shotgun wound to the chest. | ||
| Shotgun discovered near the body a former Clinton aide, Mark Middleton, and then they called it a suicide. | ||
| 12-gauge shotgun was 30 feet from the body of Mark Middleton was he found dead. | ||
| Okay, so who orchestrates this? | ||
| Is this the same thing where does Clinton go, hey, this guy needs to go, or do the powers that be around a powerful person go, we already know what needs to happen? | ||
| Well, I think they know if a dude is in contact with someone or has been talking or is about to talk. | ||
| Meaning cooperating with the feds or something. | ||
| I don't think any of those guys have clean phones. | ||
| I don't think any of those guys don't have their houses bugged. | ||
| I don't think any of those guys aren't tracked. | ||
| Look at how excited that guy is in the back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're a guy that brought Jeffrey Epstein to the fucking White House to see Bill Clinton seven times and all this... | ||
| Epstein shit is going down and Ghislaine's in jail and you have information. | ||
| There's people on both sides, right? | ||
| There's the people on the right that are trying to nail the people that are on the left with this. | ||
| There's people that are journalists that are trying to nail the people that are involved in this. | ||
| And they've managed to keep that fucking list from coming out, which shows you how powerful certain people are. | ||
| That should show you a lot. | ||
| That should be terrifying. | ||
| The fact that Ghislaine Maxwell's in prison. | ||
| She's in prison for sex trafficking, yet no one's been accused of buying any of that pussy. | ||
| No one's been accused of having sex with these underage girls that she is in jail for supplying. | ||
| Yeah, that is crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| If you own a store and there's no items left yet, nobody's purchased anything. | ||
| Something's going on. | ||
| Something's going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is like... | ||
| People can go away. | ||
| I mean, that's what people were saying. | ||
| And maybe, you know, everybody's a conspiracy theorist now, but that's what people are saying about the Diddy situation. | ||
| Like, when the feds rolled up, you know, with the fucking Hummers and shit, they're like, it wasn't about Diddy. | ||
| It was about if there were tapes of powerful people there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure. | ||
| They were the ones that called. | ||
| They're like, I need to protect myself, so go in there with all the things and rip any tapes or any evidence. | ||
| Prince Harry was hanging with Diddy. | ||
| I mean, everybody hung with Diddy. | ||
| That's the other tricky thing. | ||
| Like, Diddy hung out with everybody. | ||
| And I've spoken to a bunch of people who are like, yo, great dude. | ||
| Like, always there for you. | ||
| Never ask for a single thing. | ||
| Till one in the morning. | ||
| And then the freak off begins. | ||
| Everybody says, get out of the house. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's like the gremlins start eating after midnight. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Everybody who tells the story is like, I saw go upstairs and these dudes are fucking, like right on the couch. | ||
| And then I go in this room and these guys are fucking. | ||
| And pros. | ||
| Like, apparently he was getting male gigolos to fuck girls. | ||
| To fuck girls? | ||
| Yeah, that was one of the rumors. | ||
| Male gigolos? | ||
| So he would hire the professional dicks to have sex with the girls. | ||
| And I think he would watch, allegedly. | ||
| That's what was alleged, I think. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on. | ||
| And that's the other thing, I wonder, is that just a power thing? | ||
| It's a Caligula thing. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Caligula, like the Emperor. | ||
| Did you ever see that movie, Caligula? | ||
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No. | |
| It's about just Roman empires being completely out of control. | ||
| Caligula is almost like porn, and it was a movie made, I want to say in the 70s. | ||
| It's a crazy movie. | ||
| But it's just detailing extreme excess where you can never fill the hole. | ||
| But what is the hole you need to fill? | ||
| Like, I'm trying to find, like, what's the catalyst? | ||
| Just chaos. | ||
| What year was this? | ||
| 79. 79, yeah. | ||
| That's Malcolm McDowell, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, the dude from Clockwork Orange. | ||
| It's a crazy movie, man. | ||
| It's still mild in comparison to what Absolute have. | ||
| Absolute power corrupts Caligula. | ||
| Okay, so then there's the question. | ||
| It's like, can you take a completely normal person, give them power, and then they become that? | ||
| Or does it take a power-hungry person that has this void that they need to be filled, that needs to be filled, and then when they are given that power, you see the worst version of them? | ||
| Ask your CIA boy. | ||
| I bet he's got the answers. | ||
| I bet he knows the exact formula. | ||
| To corrupting somebody or to... | ||
| What happens? | ||
| Like, what happens to these people? | ||
| Have you ever met somebody in our business that, like, before they were popping, they were kind of a dick, and then once they became very successful, they were the biggest dick? | ||
| And you're like, you were always going to be this way. | ||
| You just didn't have the power to project it on people. | ||
| I don't know too many people in our business that are really successful, like your level or my level, that are dicks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, let me think about that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there are people maybe that feel they should be at a higher level and are not. | ||
| They feel that they can kind of boss people around or throw their weight around to their assistant or their agents. | ||
| Maybe they yell when they shouldn't yell or don't have to yell or are demeaning to certain people. | ||
| That bothers me, though. | ||
| Oh, I hate it. | ||
| I don't like it at all. | ||
| Especially when you're demeaning to the people that can't... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can't really do anything. | ||
| They could quit, of course, but this is their opportunity. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then they feel terrible, and for no reason. | ||
| The same exact situation could be handled with a hug. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You could tell them you appreciate them, you hold their hand, you shake their hand, you give them a hug, and then everybody feels good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that should be what the goal is. | ||
| Like, you're the guy who is in this very unique, unusual situation, and you have the ability to make everybody feel better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Except until you don't. | ||
| Until there's some people that you just gotta get rid of. | ||
| There's some people that just feel entitled, and they don't feel it. | ||
| There's certain things that do happen around certain successful people. | ||
| You'll see they have a few people that have resentment that are around them, that realize, like, oh, I'm a support person, and I only have so much room that I can climb. | ||
| I can never be Andrew Schultz. | ||
| I'm always going to be this guy who works with Andrew Schultz. | ||
| I've had a few buddies that have opening acts that wind up getting very entitled, and they have real problems with them. | ||
| The opening acts get resentful, and there becomes issues. | ||
| Even good guys, they get rid of them. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta get rid of them. | ||
| Because you can't be around someone who resents your success. | ||
| I just had a friend who just led me through all the shit that his opening act was doing. | ||
| But I have known several guys that have had that. | ||
| Once things start popping, those guys feel like, hey, you know, I'm a big deal. | ||
| You could be replaced with another guy who does 15 minutes. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| You have an amazing opportunity. | ||
| You get a chance to perform in front of these thousands of people that you would never be able to perform in front of. | ||
| And you light it up. | ||
| You can move up the ladder. | ||
| And then one day that could be you. | ||
| And they could be coming to see you. | ||
| And we've all seen that. | ||
| And you never want to have to manage somebody like that. | ||
| You want to have people around you that are excited by the opportunity. | ||
| And everybody's part of the team. | ||
| And we're doing this fucking unbelievable thing. | ||
| And yeah, I guess I feel lucky I have those guys. | ||
| Yeah, you've cultured a good group of humans, and then they have gratitude, and we all have gratitude. | ||
| Everybody has gratitude. | ||
| That's the key. | ||
| But some people, they're nuts. | ||
| Some people are just crazy, which is why they're in show business in the first place. | ||
| And they have a distorted perception of reality, and they're not good at being objective, they're not good at seeing the big picture. | ||
| You know, those fucking people are gonna be a real problem if they're in your circle. | ||
| And if they're smart. | ||
| The problem is, like, when you take one of those people who's intelligent, they can, like, rationalize and justify all the behaviors. | ||
| That's the trickiest thing. | ||
| Like, how do you... | ||
| Have you been in that situation where, like, you're trying to talk them out of a behavior that they have? | ||
| And you're just like, this might not be the most rational way to operate. | ||
| It's not really... | ||
| It's like at a certain point in time, you have to... | ||
| Yeah, I guess you've got to kind of let them do their thing. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know what you can do to cure them of it. | ||
| I don't know if you can tell them, hey, this is what you're doing. | ||
| They're like, fuck, what am I doing? | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm going to get my shit together. | ||
| Do we have confirmation? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And we're good to go? | ||
| Yeah, hold on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| light it up, Joe. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| We're going back and forth right now. | ||
| Is he comfy or not comfy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Green light. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Okay. | ||
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All right. | |
| I think there's a lot of psychos in the world. | ||
| And I think that this is a thing. | ||
| It's like there's a certain amount of people that really don't care about other people. | ||
| They exist. | ||
| I guess the term is sociopath, right? | ||
| I think sociopath just means that you don't feel like the guilt that a normal person would feel when you make somebody feel uncomfortable. | ||
| Or they could potentially be in that uncomfortable situation. | ||
| That reaction is just not elicited in you. | ||
| And therefore, you can maybe ask them to do things that would put them in a really uncomfortable situation. | ||
| Like, for example, you have a podcast, right? | ||
| You asked somebody to come on. | ||
| There might be a really embarrassing, tough question that you might want to ask them. | ||
| Maybe that's why you brought them on. | ||
| Or they're a really close friend of yours and you're just like, I don't know if I want to put them in this situation in front of all these people. | ||
| Dude, I do that all the time. | ||
| You don't ask. | ||
| I don't ask all the time. | ||
| Exactly, because you have empathy. | ||
| You care about how they're perceived. | ||
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Not just that. | |
| I don't need to talk to someone about something controversial. | ||
| If they want to talk about it, like if it's something they want to get off their chest or they want to discuss because there's some misconceptions out there, I'm happy to give you that platform. | ||
| But like, play got you with you? | ||
| I am not that guy at all. | ||
| I don't want to have anything to do with that shit. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| I don't think it's necessary. | ||
| It feels gross. | ||
| Also, if you're talking about a human being in one very specific issue, don't they have a lot of things going on in their life? | ||
| I'm interested in the full human. | ||
| I'm not interested in just digging the dirt on one bad situation that you may or may not be involved in. | ||
| You said some shit to me. | ||
| When I had my kid, you said, you know what's really funny is that when I'm talking to somebody or somebody's being incredibly annoying or they're frustrating, they're being a pain in the ass, they're being a dick, I just imagine them as a six-week-old baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's like every one of them started out that way, this innocent, pure, amazing little thing. | ||
| And life might have turned them into this. | ||
| Life, shitty parents, bad neighborhood. | ||
| And then sometimes it's just genes. | ||
| Sometimes you get wacky genes, man. | ||
| Sometimes people are mentally ill right from the jump. | ||
| And I don't think people like to admit that, but that's a fact. | ||
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How much can you do with that? | |
| Not much. | ||
| And then when it comes to medication, what is the medication doing it? | ||
| Is it dulling the mind so that the impulses don't come out? | ||
| Is it ramping up your dopamine so you don't want to do those things? | ||
| Yeah, I was wondering that with Prozac. | ||
| I didn't realize how many people I knew that were on Prozac. | ||
| What's he saying? | ||
| Yay or nay? | ||
| Yeah, we're good. | ||
| Let's just do it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whew. | ||
| Speaking of. | ||
| Speaking of psychos. | ||
| Speaking of people that are potentially bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That do not have your good interests at heart and will take advantage of you and maybe are pathological in their desires to crush. | ||
| So we're talking about Andrew Huberman's situation. | ||
| His situation, not Huberman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So one of the things that was left out of that article... | ||
| People know, I assume everybody here knows exactly what happened. | ||
| So there's an article that Andrew Huberman, an ex, got a hold of a reporter and said that he's a philanderer, he's doing all these terrible things, he's a bad guy. | ||
| And so they write this long article. | ||
| What they left out was that the person who accused him of all this... | ||
| First of all, it's being investigated by the DOJ for fraud and is in the middle of that right now. | ||
| It's a very serious case. | ||
| I would name the case, but that would... | ||
| Like, they made the lady anonymous, which is also crazy. | ||
| Like, you could have an anonymous person who attacks this famous person, which is essentially... | ||
| Whether it's true, the things she's saying are true or not true, the stuff she left out, the DOJ stuff... | ||
| Oh, and that's when he breaks it off. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He breaks it off. | ||
| The DOJ contacts him because they're investigating this woman. | ||
| And you think that that would be like maybe the first paragraph? | ||
| You would think that would at least be a part of the article. | ||
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| If it was a real piece of news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You would say, oh, this is complicated. | ||
| Okay, so what do you think it is? | ||
| Do you think it could come from pharmaceutical companies? | ||
| I don't think there's zero influence. | ||
| You know, I mean, I think for sure. | ||
| Look, with the stuff that happened to me. | ||
| That's what I was going to ask. | ||
| What do you think it comes from? | ||
| That was 100% influenced by pharmaceutical drug companies. | ||
| Political interests, too? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they're all tied in together because they fund them. | ||
| So you've got pharmaceutical drug interests that, A, fund the network, right? | ||
| They pay for so much of the advertisement. | ||
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I mean, you can't just cut that off. | |
| If the news said, no more pharmaceutical drugs, let's imagine if the government says this. | ||
| The government says, no more pharmaceutical drug contributions to super PACs, no more pharmaceutical drugs ads on television shows and newspapers. | ||
| No more. | ||
| Then you have to fill a massive void that's missing from those ads. | ||
| And you're going to have to bring in Toyota trucks and fucking all these different things. | ||
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| You're missing out on a lot of fucking money. | ||
| So, if that's a giant portion of your ad revenue, you're going to avoid all conversations about vaccine injuries. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're not going to come up. | ||
| You're going to shut them down and go to commercial. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You're going to say, well, the studies don't show that. | ||
| The studies don't... | ||
| You'll talk over RFK. Yeah. | ||
| What you're saying is just simply not true. | ||
| Vaccines are the reason why we don't have... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Vaccines have never been shown to cause autism. | ||
| Vaccines... | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| They go to commercial. | ||
| And then it's just like the person shouted them down. | ||
| They're probably getting talk in their ear. | ||
| Don Lemon, get off the subject. | ||
| There's probably someone in their ear because they do have earpieces. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I don't even know if they have to tell you. | ||
| When you know that you are being paid by someone... | ||
| It's very easy to just go along with whatever narrative they support. | ||
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100%. | |
| And that's the tricky thing, because a lot of times we act like there's this group of six people that are disseminating this information. | ||
| They're directly hitting up Don Lemon, all these other people, like, you must behave this way. | ||
| I think people fall in line. | ||
| I think it's almost human instinct to fall in line. | ||
| When you know who's got your back, you kind of fall in line with it. | ||
| And if the pharmaceutical companies are supporting 25% of your ads, or 30%, whatever the fuck it is, you fall in line with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You fall in line with the narratives of the networks you're with. | ||
| If you write for the Washington Post, you probably fall in line. | ||
| And when you start to ruffle feathers, your articles don't get posted. | ||
| And then you realize, oh shit, if I want my articles to get posted, I got to write like this. | ||
| My kid's in private school and I want to build a pool. | ||
| And now there's this incentive structure that's built in without anybody fucking telling you what to do. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So it's this it's not as like nefarious as people assume it is when you hear about like the deep state and all these people telling you It's an incentive structure built in and human beings want to survive And we start kind of doing the things that will help us survive and it's all implied You know what you're supposed to say and not supposed to say it's the Clinton speaking fee like no one wants to hear Hillary Clinton speak Nobody ever has wanted to hear her speak, but she's getting 400 grand from Goldman Sachs and Yeah, exactly. | ||
| After she's, you know, what was he? | ||
| Secretary of State. | ||
| So it's like, but Goldman Sachs doesn't need to say, hey, by the way, you're going to get speaking fees. | ||
| She knows it! | ||
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Exactly. | |
| They all fucking know it! | ||
| Well, that was why during the Trump debates with Clinton, he was like, release the transcripts of those speeches. | ||
| Oh, I love it. | ||
| Yeah, I'll release my taxes, you release the transcripts. | ||
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| And what is the transcript? | ||
| Hey guys, do we really need to be here, or can I go home? | ||
| You know what I want. | ||
| I want you guys to make money. | ||
| Let's keep it rolling. | ||
| So that's the deep state, if you will. | ||
| It's not six people. | ||
| Well, that is like the people that are in your crew that start acting entitled The Hillary Clintons are the people that are maybe disrespectful to the servers and you find out about it. | ||
| They sent food back. | ||
| It's not the main guy. | ||
| It's the support staff. | ||
| So the main people are not the presidents. | ||
| The main people are the people that are running Raytheon, the people that are running these gigantic Yeah. | ||
| Companies that make weapons. | ||
| Dude, that... | ||
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I didn't even... | |
| That's where the real money is. | ||
| When we had RFK on, I didn't even fucking know this shit. | ||
| But... | ||
| I didn't know, like, when we're sending money to Ukraine... | ||
| We're not really even sending money there. | ||
| We're sending money to American military manufacturers to make weapons, and then the weapons go to Ukraine. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| But we're paying us! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you can't really save- But also, some money goes over there, too. | ||
| And that money- But a fraction. | ||
| Enough. | ||
| Billions. | ||
| And that money is like, whoo- Where'd it go? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dudes are doing coke and driving around in Rolls Royces and balls. | ||
| Oh, I saw that. | ||
| The guy bought the- Yeah, what was it? | ||
| The assistant, it wasn't the vice president, but it was some government figure who bought some insane car. | ||
| And it's like, why are you buying insane cars when you're in the middle of a war? | ||
| How do you have the money? | ||
| Yeah, there might be some rations you might want to buy. | ||
| Okay, so there's the system. | ||
| I think Vivek called it the managerial class or something like that, which I thought was a good term. | ||
| But, okay, the money is going to these different industries first. | ||
| So it's kind of staying in America, which does, I guess, boost our economy in some way. | ||
| Like, those people need to hire people. | ||
| The economy starts to do- That's a good way to look at it. | ||
| No, but I mean, like, no, no, for real. | ||
| Like, it's like, they have to hire people. | ||
| They have to pay people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's why war is good for the economy. | ||
| And if the economy is built on this military-industrial complex or whatever it is, we constantly need conflict in order to continue the positive momentum of the economy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But they can't say that. | ||
| They can't go, hey, we need war in order for the economy to be good. | ||
| They're not thinking about the economy. | ||
| They're thinking about the money that they are specifically going to make from these transactions. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're not thinking about, oh, we're going to do this good for the economy. | ||
| They're thinking this is an opportunity to get a massive contract. | ||
| They're in the business of constantly making more money. | ||
| When you're in a corporation, especially a publicly traded corporation, you have an obligation to your shareholders to make more money. | ||
| You have a board. | ||
| You have people that have dumped $100 million into the company, and they're staring at you, and you're like, what are we doing to maximize profits? | ||
| And just like if you're, you know, working for CNN, you know, if someone starts saying the vaccines might be killing kids, you got to step in and go, there's no evidence for this. | ||
| You got to cover. | ||
| You're covering for this. | ||
| Everyone's covering. | ||
| And if you're the head of a corporation, it's your job to get these contracts. | ||
| It's a sociopathic sort of a situation. | ||
| No one's looking at it like, what is the big picture? | ||
| Does this really need to be happening? | ||
| Isn't there some sort of a diplomatic approach that can be made? | ||
| What were the factors that led us to get into the situation in the first place? | ||
| What's going on with NATO? Why are they moving weapons closer and closer to Russia's border? | ||
| Maybe there's a diplomatic solution that could stop the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. | ||
| But no. | ||
| No. | ||
| Make that cheddar. | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| And then attach it to different bills, right? | ||
| Like, attach it to the border bill. | ||
| Attach it to the fucking... | ||
| Attach it to the education bill. | ||
| No, we gotta educate those Russians about our fucking bombs. | ||
| That's part of the education bill. | ||
| They gotta know about a tomahawk missile, bitch. | ||
| So how do you stop that? | ||
| Money. | ||
| And the problem is it's already been embedded, right? | ||
| It's like trying to tell the mob you can't make money anymore. | ||
| Like, you have to do some radical things to get the mob out of businesses, right? | ||
| And that's what they had to do with Giuliani in New York with the John Gotti and the families and locking everybody up. | ||
| Like, you can't just say, hey guys, stop doing that. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| That's what they did with Iraq. | ||
| That's what they did with Afghanistan. | ||
| That's what they did with Vietnam. | ||
| They do it with everything. | ||
| That's what Eisenhower warned the American people about when he was leaving office, which is one of the craziest videos in human history, where he's saying the military-industrial complex wants to go to war. | ||
| There's a machine that wants to go to war, and you have to be very careful of it. | ||
| So what is the history of this? | ||
| So World War II, the whole country turns into a war machine? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And which was beneficial for us. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Great for the economy. | ||
| Great for a lot of things. | ||
| Great to unite us. | ||
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Great for freedom. | |
| Great for not speaking fucking German for the rest of our existence. | ||
| And it turns into a war machine. | ||
| Like, Ford just starts making tanks. | ||
| Like, everybody shifts their goal, right? | ||
| Is that essentially what happens when... | ||
| Well, a lot of people definitely shift their... | ||
| I mean, Ford obviously kept making cars, but a lot of people do shift their businesses. | ||
| But I think Ford also started making military vehicles. | ||
| Did they? | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| That was my understanding, is that every business started to prioritize the war effort. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Not overnight, but pretty quickly, the whole country had one singular focus, which was, if we need to go to war... | ||
| We can turn it over. | ||
| I think that's what Napoleon did, actually. | ||
| That was how he was so effective. | ||
| He turned the whole country into a war machine. | ||
| Whereas before, it was like, wait, I thought we were just lining up in the field and banging back and forth against each other. | ||
| He was like, no, no, you're fighting the whole country. | ||
| So then when we get to turn over and flip and Ford starts making vehicles or whatever the fuck it needs for the military effort, we have a huge competitive advantage. | ||
| The money that comes in through that, in fact, check me on this, please, but the money that starts to be generated by that is very hard to relinquish when the war is done. | ||
| The war stops and then people go, whoa, whoa, whoa, we were making $100 million a year during war. | ||
| I don't want to go back to $20 million. | ||
| So we need more wars. | ||
| Is that the idea? | ||
| Yeah, that's definitely a part of the idea. | ||
| It's also connected to a lot of other things, too, that you wouldn't think about, like subsidizing food. | ||
| So subsidizing farmers. | ||
| So, like, when you hear about corn subsidies, like we have corn subsidies, that's why there's corn syrup in everything. | ||
| We picked a crop that could feed 300 million people and it just happened to be corn. | ||
| Well, what happened was, during World War II, they started to subsidize farmers so that they would have a surplus. | ||
| So in case another war breaks out, they have food storage. | ||
| They have the ability to feed the country, even if we're cut off from the rest of the world. | ||
| And when you're dependent upon foreign countries for different things like grains and medicines, and that's one of the things we found out during COVID, right? | ||
| A lot of medicine is made in China. | ||
| A lot of it was very hard to come by during COVID because of the transportation issues. | ||
| Isn't that one of the issues with Ukraine? | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Not with medicine, but with actual grain. | ||
| It's one of the largest grain producers in the world. | ||
| So I think there even had to be an agreement between Russia and Ukraine to continue sending out grain during the conflict. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| The rules of war are so wild. | ||
| Like, when someone says it's a war crime, you know? | ||
| Who decides? | ||
| Who decides the levels? | ||
| You can only kill people certain ways. | ||
| Like, one of the wildest ones was also during World War I. It's a guy named Fritz Haber. | ||
| And Fritz Haber, he created the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere that's responsible for Some crazy number today, this method is responsible for something about, see if this is true, I think it's something around 50% of the nitrogen in human bodies today exists because of the Haber method. | ||
| So 50% of the nitrogen from your food has been extracted from the atmosphere by the Haber method in order to provide fertilizer for plants that we use, especially When you're talking about industrialized fertilizer and commercial grade fertilizer, they have to spray it because the topsoil is all dead for a lot of these modern industrial monocrop agriculture establishments. | ||
| So Fritz Haber creates this, but he also creates Zyklon A. He created this gas that they were using. | ||
| They turned it to Zyklon B. They took the smell out of it so they could kill the Jews with it. | ||
| And he also used the gas when they were gassing Allied troops in World War I. This was the first time that that had been done. | ||
| So they had these massive fans and gas and they would blow it onto these soldiers and kill them all. | ||
| And so he was both being recommended for the Nobel Prize and being a war criminal at the same time. | ||
| He was wanted for crimes against humanity at the same time. | ||
| He created the Haber method. | ||
| What's the matter Jamie? | ||
| Nearly 50% of the nitrogen found in human tissues originated from the Haber-Bosch process. | ||
| Thus Haber process serves as the detonator of the population explosion, enabling the global population to increase from 1.6 billion in 1900 to 7.7 billion by 2018. | ||
| Reverse fuel technology converts electrical energy, water, and air into ammonia without a separate hydrogen electrolysis process. | ||
| So this is his... | ||
| I mean, he was a legitimate genius. | ||
| And his story is so fucking tragic. | ||
| When he was leaving to go to the front lines to war to use his gas, it was so controversial. | ||
| There was so much... | ||
| His wife committed suicide. | ||
| In front of him, shot herself in the heart, and he left her to go to the front line while she was still alive. | ||
| He left her with his 13-year-old son to take care of her. | ||
| She eventually died. | ||
| But I mean, his whole life became... | ||
| Did he feel remorse for this at all? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But eventually, during World War II, He was a Jew and he saw all of his other Jewish friends that were scientists get pushed out and arrested and all these different things that happened to him and he wound up fleeing and he died while he was fleeing. | ||
| I think he died of heart failure. | ||
| It's probably just racked with stress. | ||
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| I mean, the guy, his whole life, I mean, what did you do? | ||
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| What did you do? | ||
| You created this amazing thing that allows nitrogen to get into the soil and feed millions of people, stop starvation for millions of people. | ||
| And you also created the gas that's killing your own people in concentration camps, and you also We created war crimes by being the first government, the first army to spray chemicals at the troops that just kills everybody indiscriminately. | ||
| Men, women, children, anybody downwind, dead. | ||
| So then who decides, like when is there the conversation where all the countries unanimously agree on what are war crimes and what are not? | ||
| Like you can kill someone with a bullet, that's okay. | ||
| Right? | ||
| As long as they are Not an innocent civilian? | ||
| Yeah, but then what about metadata, right? | ||
| Do you know how they target some people with bombs? | ||
| Okay, so let's say you're a terrorist, and let's say you're hanging out in this building, and the government knows where you are because they have your cell phone. | ||
| So they have the metadata of your cell phone, so they know your cell phone is in this room. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Game over. | ||
| Everybody dead. | ||
| Everybody dead. | ||
| Not just you. | ||
| Not just me. | ||
| Not just Jamie. | ||
| Security staff. | ||
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Everybody. | |
| This is the drone strike the wedding shit. | ||
| People next door. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you know what the percentage is of innocent people that die in drone strikes? | ||
| 99? | ||
| We don't know, really. | ||
| Because here's the problem. | ||
| And this has to be, like, you have to be kind of honest about this. | ||
| They lie, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nobody's going to be like, I'm a bad guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They'll say, oh, you killed 30 children, and they'll take photos. | ||
| So you're getting some of the information as far as the data. | ||
| They never know good shot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we don't know the exact numbers. | ||
| There's estimated numbers, but for sure, it's not more bad guys. | ||
| For sure, it's more innocents than it is bad guys. | ||
| And the high estimates are in like the 80 and 90%. | ||
| Of innocent civilians that die in drone strikes. | ||
| And what is the justification? | ||
| Because there's a bad guy over there. | ||
| We've got to get that bad guy. | ||
| And it's in another country. | ||
| So when it's in another country, you can kind of get away with some shit. | ||
| But also I imagine the justification is like that one bad guy could have killed hundreds of thousands of our good guys. | ||
| That's their steel man argument for it, I imagine. | ||
| Because they also have to have a justification. | ||
| It can't happen without them going, hey, we thought about this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then imagine the person that you need to pull the trigger on that or push the button, right? | ||
| Like the constitution that they have to have. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a lot of guilt. | ||
| This goes back to the sociopathy. | ||
| Oh, they have massive PTSD. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, those people that run, they say it's a unique form of PTSD because they weren't really there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're behind a fucking video console. | ||
| They're working on a fucking Xbox controller. | ||
| Have presidents ever said that? | ||
| Did Lincoln write anything about the death toll during the Civil War? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I wonder if even modern day. | ||
| Does Obama talk about it? | ||
| The people that died? | ||
| The Bushes? | ||
| I think you can't. | ||
| George Bush has handled Iraq better than anybody in history. | ||
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He's just been painting dogs and shit. | |
| He's giving little fucking lozenges to Michelle. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And maybe you need somebody that's kind of not got a lot going on up there to do it. | ||
| Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that they made movies about Dick Cheney afterwards. | ||
| They made him out to be this monster. | ||
| I feel like that's taking all accountability away from the guy who was in charge. | ||
| It's very easy to be like, yeah, it was just him. | ||
| This guy's got to co-sign it, too, and that's the job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're the head coach of the team and the assistant coach is making all the bad decisions, we still blame the head coach, right? | ||
| He's also the son of a great man. | ||
| And, you know, when your dad is Herbert Walker Bush, who was the head of the CIA, and, you know, you are second fiddle. | ||
| You're good at taking directions. | ||
| And that's why you'd make a good president. | ||
| You're a good, handsome man. | ||
| We're going to smoke them out of their holes. | ||
| You look like a president, and then let's let a good old dick take things behind the scenes. | ||
| And just look at the evidence of what they did, right? | ||
| One of the things that they gave Halliburton no-bid contracts for, For fucking billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq. | ||
| How wild is this? | ||
| That the guy who was the vice president, Was on the board of... | ||
| He was like the fucking... | ||
| He was the head of Halbert. | ||
| Was he getting a piece during his vice presidency? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yeah, that seems like a conflict of interest. | ||
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He is blowing these places up! | |
| He's blowing these places up! | ||
| It's like their decisions that are causing these places to get blown up. | ||
| If I make money on building... | ||
| Dick Cheney resumes role as chairman of Halbert& Company. | ||
| Oh, he's back. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| When is this? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| This is after he left office? | ||
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I might have... | |
| 2000, so yeah, this was actually before. | ||
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Right? | |
| Well, no, this was during the Bush administration, right? | ||
| Effective today, 2000. He became president right around then. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Right? | |
| He resumed his role while he was vice president? | ||
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No, that's... | |
| I don't... | ||
| I thought... | ||
| I misread what was happening here, because it said February... | ||
| But it says... | ||
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I clicked that first here. | |
| Right. | ||
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Because it's February 24th. | |
| Cheney will succeed Bill Bradford. | ||
| Click it again? | ||
| But then the second... | ||
| Okay, Dick Cheney resumes role. | ||
| This is a new article, it says. | ||
| So look at what it says. | ||
| Dick Cheney has resumed role of Chairman of the Board of Halliburton, effective today, February 1st, 2000. That's weird that it just came out. | ||
| Weird also continues his current position as Chief Executive Officer of the company, joining Halliburton. | ||
| So this was right before the election. | ||
| I think this is the announcement when that guy got confused. | ||
| But February 1st, 2000 means he's already in office, correct? | ||
| Or is it 2001? | ||
| It's January 2001 that Bush goes into office, right? | ||
| Election was 2000, yeah. | ||
| So this is 11 months earlier, so is he even named as vice president yet? | ||
| Is he running with him at that time? | ||
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| It's almost one year later, exactly. | ||
| Right, but I'm saying is he named as vice president as a running mate? | ||
| I'm checking when they... | ||
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| Right, because that's generally a little later. | ||
| Once someone wins the primaries, they announce their VP. Yeah, but if you're not actually president, you can hold another position, or vice president. | ||
| If you're not actually in government, you can up to that day. | ||
| I would like to meet GW. You'd like to meet him? | ||
| What would you ask him? | ||
| I would just talk to him. | ||
| About? | ||
| I wouldn't want to dig. | ||
| I would just talk to him. | ||
| I just want to find out what makes him tick. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Halliburton reportedly reached the agreement on July 20th to allow Cheney to retire. | ||
| With a package of an estimated 20 million. | ||
| Let's go, dick! | ||
| I mean, pulled it off, man! | ||
| Do you ever wish you didn't know all this stuff? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The ignorance is bliss. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I feel a tremendous weight of the amount of people that pay attention to the shit I say. | ||
| It's a tremendous weight. | ||
| So you feel like there's some things, like, I would rather just be a hayseed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just fucking hanging out on my farm in Kansas shooting deer with bows and arrows. | ||
| Well, that's what I was going to ask. | ||
| Like, when you're out shooting deer... | ||
| That's my favorite time that I'm disconnected. | ||
| I don't have cell phone service. | ||
| I don't have shit. | ||
| You're not thinking about the deep state. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| I'm thinking about mountain lions and I'm thinking about bugling elk. | ||
| I'm thinking how my cardio is. | ||
| Do I get enough electrolytes in me this morning? | ||
| Make sure my protein take is right. | ||
| I'm going eight fucking miles a day in the mountains. | ||
| You like hard shit. | ||
| That's something I've noticed about you. | ||
| And I think it's a really important thing to... | ||
| It's an important quality to have as you achieve more success because with success, life can get easier. | ||
| So if you're not addicted to difficulty and like hard situations, it's easy to just kind of fall into the comfort of nothing. | ||
| Because there was a guy on the podcast, Russ, who's an awesome artist. | ||
| But he was like, yeah, once you get money, things become easy. | ||
| And then anything that's not easy, you get very anxious about and fearful of. | ||
| So you like hard things. | ||
| You admire David Goggins because he's doing hard shit all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think a lot of times people don't like hard things. | ||
| And then when they get success, hard things make them anxious and they stop doing hard things. | ||
| And hard things are what make us successful. | ||
| When we have nothing, we have to do hard things. | ||
| We have to go up in front of crowds that might not be good. | ||
| We have to go run fucking really hard. | ||
| We have to work out really hard, whatever it is. | ||
| And I wonder if that's when like kids who grow up with very wealthy parents are not used to hard things and they don't really have to do anything hard. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if they don't have that as a core value to them, that doing hard things is good, of course they're going to be anxious about everything. | ||
| Of course they're going to use drugs. | ||
| Of course they're going to be bored out of their fucking mind. | ||
| So it's one of those things that, as I've gotten a potentially more comfortable life, I have to force myself to do things I'm afraid of, or I do think that I would just kind of get weak and fall apart. | ||
| Comfort is a warm and enticing poison. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's a slow poison. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You can take a little bit of it on the couch, just relaxing. | ||
| And it is nice. | ||
| Take a little of it. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| But don't let that get into your veins. | ||
| Because it'll make the rest of your life harder. | ||
| Because you're going to encounter hard things. | ||
| And if the hard thing that you don't voluntarily subscribe to, the hard thing that you don't force yourself into, isn't harder than the other things in life, you're going to have a hard time managing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's voluntary. | ||
| It has to be voluntary. | ||
| You have to choose it. | ||
| You have to have discipline. | ||
| I think characters like cardio. | ||
| I think you have to keep it up. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| You take a few weeks off of cardio, you're like... | ||
| I think that's the same with character. | ||
| And I think it's the same with doing difficult things. | ||
| And also self-assessing, honestly. | ||
| Knowing where you fucked up. | ||
| There's moments that you have, I'm sure, in your life where you look back. | ||
| It might have been ten years ago. | ||
| You're like, fuck. | ||
| Why did I say that to that dude? | ||
| I didn't need to say that. | ||
| I shouldn't have said that. | ||
| God, I was just in the wrong place, wrong time, wrong headspace. | ||
| Why did I do that? | ||
| Oh, I was drunk. | ||
| Why did I say that? | ||
| Why did I do that? | ||
| You know, those things, you should know those too. | ||
| You don't absolve yourself of those things. | ||
| Know those things are real. | ||
| And just always constantly strive to do better. | ||
| The problem is when people fuck up, they think of themselves as that fuck up. | ||
| And that's a difficult thing for someone with a bad past, like dudes have been in jail, it's really difficult for them. | ||
| That becomes their identity. | ||
| It becomes a part of who you recognize that's a part of your behavior characteristics. | ||
| You don't think of yourself as the best you when you made the right decision, when your friend calls you and you could tell him, I'm busy, bro. | ||
| I can't help you. | ||
| Be like, I can put that shit aside. | ||
| Go help my boy. | ||
| And go help your friend. | ||
| And then you show up for him. | ||
| He's like, dude, you're here for me. | ||
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Thank you, brother. | |
| Appreciate it so much, man. | ||
| And you're helping him fix his tire or move or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Those moments, man, unite human beings. | ||
| They're very, very important moments. | ||
| And that's what everybody should strive for. | ||
| You should strive for the moments when you worked really hard at something and you accomplished it. | ||
| When you didn't want to get through a workout, but you did it. | ||
| When you finished the marathon. | ||
| When you apologized for being out of line. | ||
| When you told people how you feel about them, even though it felt vulnerable. | ||
| I love you so much. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You inspire me. | ||
| You're an amazing human being and I'm so happy you're in my life. | ||
| That's what we all should be aspiring towards. | ||
| Aspiring to be better versions of ourselves. | ||
| And aspiring to put ourselves in situations that we fear. | ||
| Like everything you want is on the other side of what you fear. | ||
| Somebody said that. | ||
| And I really believe it though. | ||
| Every situation I put myself in that I'm scared of or anxious about, even if it doesn't work out perfectly, I do feel This confidence boost that I at least tried. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I at least fucking tried. | ||
| I was scared of doing it and I fucking tried. | ||
| And then if it works out, it's the best feeling in the world. | ||
| But if I pussy out, that's the worst. | ||
| That's the worst feeling. | ||
| It is the fucking worst. | ||
| The worst feeling. | ||
| But that's the importance of like... | ||
| The nice thing about stand-up, I guess, is that we know that we can't take months off. | ||
| It atrophies fast. | ||
| Fast. | ||
| Weeks off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like we have to go up. | ||
| We have to constantly go up. | ||
| And yeah, there are things in life that are a million times more difficult than people have to do. | ||
| But it is one of those things that's built into the thing that we kind of love, which is we have to keep doing this. | ||
| And every time we try something new, it's bad. | ||
| Yeah, but we're also addicted to that accomplishment vibe, that accomplishment energy. | ||
| Like when you get that feeling, that amazing feeling of, fuck, I did it. | ||
| I also like the chaos of it. | ||
| I like it when there's, like, I was hanging on the beach with my wife on something, and I'm like, I'm really bad with vacations if I don't have things to do during it. | ||
| I can't just hang on the beach. | ||
| I cannot do it. | ||
| If I'm surfing, I can do it. | ||
| Or if I'm playing paddle, I can do it. | ||
| But I need to do shit. | ||
| Give me something to do. | ||
| And my wife knows. | ||
| I don't care if we're looking at the Coliseum. | ||
| I'm learning. | ||
| I'm asking a fucking tour guide questions. | ||
| I need to do a thing. | ||
| Because if I'm not, my brain goes fucking crazy. | ||
| It needs to be occupied. | ||
| I'm lucky that I have that. | ||
| Imagine I was really comfy doing nothing. | ||
| Why would I do anything? | ||
| It's a superpower. | ||
| But it has to be managed. | ||
| It's like having a Ferrari engine. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| If you have a Ferrari engine in a fucking... | ||
| Toyota Corolla. | ||
| That shit doesn't have the tires for it. | ||
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You're in a tree. | |
| You have to learn how to manage that kind of a mind. | ||
| And you've built up a suspension and wide tires and strong carbon fiber ceramic brakes. | ||
| It's like you've got to have all those things. | ||
| So is that what you're constantly doing? | ||
| Are you constantly looking for more shit you're afraid of? | ||
| In your life? | ||
| Well, difficult things. | ||
| I like difficult things. | ||
| That's how I like cold plunging. | ||
| I like it because it's hard. | ||
| People are like, I hate it. | ||
| I fucking like it. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| Every time I'm about to do it, there's this little bitch ass part of my brain. | ||
| It's like, don't do that. | ||
| You don't need to do this. | ||
| And the other part of my brain that I've built up over the years is like, shut up, pussy. | ||
| I'm the boss. | ||
| So it's building the discipline. | ||
| It's not even like, okay, yeah, there are great, what is it, not side effects, but there are great main effects. | ||
| The inflammation goes down, whatever. | ||
| But it's more about building the fucking discipline to do the shit you don't want to do. | ||
| Yeah, but also because it's good for you. | ||
| If it was bad for me, if I didn't want to do it and every time I did it, it was killing me a little bit, I wouldn't do it. | ||
| But I do it because I know it's good for you and I know you feel great when you get out of it. | ||
| But Goggins, I'm sure, running all those fucking miles, like his joints are destroyed, his feet are fucked up. | ||
| There's a certain point of diminishing returns. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But also you have to have the outlier. | ||
| You have to have the dude that's pure mind. | ||
| That's all just on the drive. | ||
| And that's Goggins. | ||
| You have to have the guy who... | ||
| So he's the extreme version of discipline. | ||
| He's uncommon amongst uncommon men. | ||
| Amongst all the psychos out there. | ||
| He's king psycho. | ||
| So it's not that he runs long. | ||
| It's that he will do the thing despite that little voice inside of him saying, you don't want to do this, just chill and relax. | ||
| And he'll tell you he has that voice. | ||
| He goes, I stare at my sneakers sometimes for 30 minutes before I put those motherfuckers on. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He'll tell you, but he always wins. | ||
| It's like, dude, when I'm taking the lid off that cold plunge, as I'm taking it off, he's like, don't do it, don't do it. | ||
| I'm like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| You got three more episodes of Shogun. | ||
| I set my watch, and I climb right in it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And because I get through it every day, I start the day off with a win. | ||
| I won. | ||
| I beat the inner bitch. | ||
| I conquered the inner bitch. | ||
| I got in there. | ||
| And then I do the workout. | ||
| That's win number two. | ||
| So by the time the day is over, I've done shit that most people never do. | ||
| What do you feel when you're on vacation? | ||
| Like a crazy person. | ||
| Like a wolf on a fucking inflatable pool toy in the ocean. | ||
| Just going, what am I doing on this fucking thing? | ||
| And is your wife going, hey, you need to chill out? | ||
| I know how to do it now. | ||
| First of all, every day starts out with a workout. | ||
| Dude, it's so funny. | ||
| I told Emma, I was like, listen, we can go to these places. | ||
| The first three hours of the day, I'm doing what I need to do. | ||
| Once I calm it all down, Let's fucking drink a whatever on the beat. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| But the first three, I need to do what I need to do. | ||
| I need breaks. | ||
| Breaks are good, but I don't really need a vacation because my life is awesome. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I've cultivated a wonderful life. | ||
| I love my family. | ||
| I love my friends. | ||
| I love my jobs. | ||
| So I'm happy. | ||
| I'm a happy dude with what I do. | ||
| So when I go on vacation, it's like, okay, I just want to just have fun with the family and do a bunch of things, but I have to do something about this thing. | ||
| And your family knows? | ||
| This bitch, yes, they know me. | ||
| What about your kids? | ||
| Are they like, okay, he just needs to work out? | ||
| They get it. | ||
| Do they have it too? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, they both have it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they both have some psycho drive. | ||
| One of them for art, the other one is gymnastics. | ||
| And when you see it manifested, like for example, do you see them looking like the wolf when you guys are all on vacation? | ||
| Do you see them kind of pacing around? | ||
| They have to do things. | ||
| You have to keep them busy. | ||
| I had a conversation with my middle daughter at one point in time. | ||
| She was like, when we first moved here, she was real anxious. | ||
| And I go, you're a racehorse. | ||
| You got to get back to racing. | ||
| You got to get back to competing again. | ||
| And as soon as she went back to that, everything was fine. | ||
| She just was like, you know, didn't know we're in a new place, making new friends. | ||
| But there's like physical anxiety that comes with being a human being that I think activity diminishes. | ||
| And you need something like that. | ||
| You need the hardest thing of your day to be something that you choose. | ||
| You know, it might not be. | ||
| Obviously, circumstances are random and you could have a terrible thing happen to you. | ||
| But if you've built up your understanding of how to get through difficult things, it'll serve you in everything you do. | ||
| And if you do it voluntarily, then you've gained control over your mental process. | ||
| You want to sit? | ||
| So, with the kids, is this something you instill in them? | ||
| You can only do it so much, man. | ||
| You gotta be real loose-handed. | ||
| You gotta let them be their own thing. | ||
| They're their own little people. | ||
| It's very fascinating. | ||
| Are you rewarding and lighting the fire once you see that they're really drawn to something? | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
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Got it. | |
| So you wait for them to choose, and then you lean the fuck in. | ||
| Yeah, well, you just... | ||
| Praise is very important for kids. | ||
| It means a lot. | ||
| It could really motivate them to excel to higher and higher levels. | ||
| Is that easy for you to give them the positive encouragement? | ||
| Oh, it's so easy, yeah. | ||
| My youngest is an insane artist, dude. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| I'm going to show you this. | ||
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She's 13. Wow. | |
| Dude, she was doing crazy work when she was six. | ||
| I showed one of her things to David Cho when she was like six or seven. | ||
| He was like, holy fuck, man. | ||
| Dude, she's crazy talented. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How old is she? | ||
| She's 13. She'll sit and she'll draw for hours and hours, man, just completely locked in and focused. | ||
| And you know, when I was young, I wanted to be a comic book illustrator. | ||
| So I was an artist when I was young, but I wasn't as good as her. | ||
| I wasn't as good. | ||
| I don't think I'm as good as her now. | ||
| She's 13. It's crazy. | ||
| Do you find yourself competing with them at all? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Unless we're playing games. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to win. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I'm trying to win. | ||
| I'm trying to win. | ||
| Okay, you won't give them a... | ||
| No. | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| No. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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No. | |
| Does it drive them crazy when they lose? | ||
| No, they win. | ||
| They win a lot, man. | ||
| We did virtual reality, and my 13-year-old beat me at this sword fighting game, and she fucking loved it. | ||
| She killed me. | ||
| It's like one of these... | ||
| You know what sandbox is? | ||
| You ever do sandbox? | ||
| Oh, this is the... | ||
| It's the dopest. | ||
| Sandbox, you're in a warehouse. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| You have a haptic feedback vest. | ||
| My favorite one is the zombie one. | ||
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But we compete in the zombie one, too. | |
| This is a console that you're wearing, like a VR goggles or something? | ||
| You go to a place. | ||
| It's called Sandbox VR. It's a big warehouse. | ||
| And inside these warehouses, they have these spaces that are a little larger than this room. | ||
| And in this space, they give you a virtual reality headset. | ||
| They give you a haptic feedback vent. | ||
| You feel like you're getting hit or you're getting grabbed by zombies, and then they give you a gun. | ||
| You have a plastic gun, okay? | ||
| And then you see yourself, you see everybody, everybody's like tactical ops outfits on and shit with helmets, and you're like, woo! | ||
| You high-five, you dance, you see each other dressed as these characters. | ||
| And then, you know, it's basically mapped out to the size of your body, and they put you in these things. | ||
| And then, like, they drop you off in Deadwood Mansion. | ||
| And Deadwood Mansion is this haunted house, and this, like, crazy scientist who've developed zombies, and the zombies start invading the house. | ||
| And you're just gunning them down. | ||
| And we always compete to see who kills the most zombies. | ||
| But I have a lot of gun experience. | ||
| I fucked those zombies up, man. | ||
| I, at one point in time, had number three in the country, or the number three score in the country. | ||
| Yeah, bro, I went ham. | ||
| Oh, this is it, yeah. | ||
| So this is it. | ||
| So let me just give you a pro tip. | ||
| If you want this, if you want this game, get the shotgun. | ||
| Shotgun face shots. | ||
| You want face shots on zombies. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Don't be fucking around with the legs. | ||
| See, the machine guns are fun and everything like that, and you reload by just going like this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just point the gun down and it reloads. | ||
| Bro, it's so fun. | ||
| I'm so addicted to this game. | ||
| You're in this house, and it's all dark and shadowy and shit, and the light from your pistols that's lighting these zombies. | ||
| Bro, it's so much fun. | ||
| Oh, this is amazing. | ||
| But yeah, I always try to win. | ||
| I always try to kill the most zombies. | ||
| So at the end of the day, you get the VIP. What is the VIP? The VIP is the most valuable player. | ||
| The MVP? Yeah, it's VIP though. | ||
| Very important player. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know if they say MVP, but either way. | ||
| I always win that shit. | ||
| I'm not letting anybody win. | ||
| So the competitive instinct cannot go away. | ||
| As long as it's like you're just understanding that everyone's just trying their best. | ||
| So when they beat you, like, oh my god. | ||
| If they beat me at a game or something like that, like, goddammit. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| I'm like, you got me. | ||
| But it's fun when they win. | ||
| It's fun when they beat you. | ||
| It's your child that's doing something really good. | ||
| How old are they now? | ||
| 13 and 15, the youngest ones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And when they were... | ||
| Are there moments... | ||
| How old is your kid now? | ||
| Eight weeks. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So yeah, I'm like, everybody I talk to goes, it goes by really fast. | ||
| That's the first thing they all say when I say aliens. | ||
| And what are the moments in this stretch that you wish that you kind of held on to longer or you didn't realize how amazing they were until they were gone? | ||
| I don't really think like that. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't think like that. | ||
| I'm happy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and I'm happy they're healthy and I'm happy they're, you know, look, I have friends that have kids that have real problems, real health problems. | ||
| And it's the most heartbreaking, It's a devastating thing to see someone going through the real struggles of a kid that is your child that's all fucked up. | ||
| Number one was healthy. | ||
| Everybody was like, don't you want a boy? | ||
| I'm like, I want healthy kids. | ||
| I don't care if it's a girl or a boy. | ||
| I genuinely didn't care. | ||
| I just wanted them to be happy and healthy. | ||
| Well, you don't like girls? | ||
| Like, what are you saying? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You only want boys? | ||
| Plus, if I had boys, it would come with the added responsibility of training a psycho. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because I'm assuming they're gonna be like a little me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And like, if I didn't find martial arts, I would have been a real problem. | ||
| Wait, what do you mean? | ||
| If I didn't find some outlet, some competitive, like, dangerous outlet to test me as a man, I was an angry kid, man. | ||
| It's not good to grow up a boy and be an angry boy and not have an outlet. | ||
| You won't have control of it. | ||
| But why do you think you were angry? | ||
| I think a lot of it is genetic. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I think a lot of people, what's inside of them is genetic, it's learned experiences, being around violence when I was young. | ||
| There's quite a few things that I think are attached to it, but I think there's some part of it that's genetic. | ||
| There's some part of drive, I think, that's genetic, too, which is interesting when you see your kids have it. | ||
| Yeah, I've talked to friends about that who have multiple kids, and they can see it in some, and others, they just don't really see it. | ||
| It's out of the box. | ||
| They're different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, my 15-year-old is, like, hyper-focused on things, hyper-focused on athletics, hyper-focused, but also very loved. | ||
| Like, doesn't have this desire to prove herself like I had. | ||
| I was like, I'm not a loser. | ||
| I'm going to show everybody that I'm not a loser. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That was like my drive as a kid. | ||
| And martial arts was the first thing that I ever did. | ||
| Where I was like, hey, I'm not a loser. | ||
| But it's also the most humbling thing. | ||
| Oh, the most humbling. | ||
| Yeah, the most humbling. | ||
| But I got good at it quick. | ||
| I was very lucky. | ||
| But there's always someone better. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I got lucky that I was going into it at the right time. | ||
| I had some athletic experience. | ||
| I had wrestled. | ||
| I'd done baseball. | ||
| I'd played some sports. | ||
| I wasn't totally inept. | ||
| When I played baseball, I was so selfish, I would never try to get on first. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
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Home run or I strike out. | |
| And they would always tell me, just get on base. | ||
| I'm like, right. | ||
| And I'd get up there, I don't give a fuck what you just said. | ||
| When that ball's coming, I'm either going to be a loser or a hero. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| I never did not try to hit a home run. | ||
| And they would always be mad at me. | ||
| Because I could hit home runs, but I could also strike out. | ||
| I struck out a lot. | ||
| But if I connected, I had some fucking crank. | ||
| I sent that ball flying and I loved it. | ||
| I loved watching that ball fly over the fence. | ||
| I am never not going to do that. | ||
| If you tell me, just bunt. | ||
| Suck my dick. | ||
| I'm not bunting. | ||
| I don't give a fuck if we lose. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| That's why you can't do the team sports. | ||
| That's why it has to be the one-on-one. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not interested. | ||
| We lost because Billy dropped the ball. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I know what I can do. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| It's my time at bat. | ||
| I'm hitting home runs. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So when I found that there was martial arts. | ||
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Or bow hunting. | |
| Yeah, just me only. | ||
| I'm going for the home run every time. | ||
| It's just me. | ||
| And I can get better based entirely on how much effort I put into it. | ||
| Then I just became obsessed. | ||
| But you still love the camaraderie. | ||
| I love the camaraderie. | ||
| But you learn from the other people that are also doing the thing. | ||
| I wasn't competitive with them where I had to be better than them. | ||
| I wanted to be better than the people I was competing against and they helped me to get better. | ||
| These are who? | ||
| These are the people I train with. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, those are family. | ||
| I'm still very good friends with one of my guys that I trained with back then. | ||
| I talk to him all the time. | ||
| I've known him since I was 52 guys, two of those guys. | ||
| I've known him since I was 15 years old. | ||
| One of them is just out here to visit. | ||
| It's funny that you see it even in martial arts. | ||
| When a guy wins, the first thing he does is often compliment his coaches and his team. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| You're everything. | ||
| We need that. | ||
| We need that shared victory. | ||
| I've always got that in team sports. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| A team win, me and four other guys playing basketball, when we're not as talented as the other team, And you win. | ||
| But we win? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Just going out for beers afterwards, talking about our... | ||
| I mean, we're old fucking guys. | ||
| But that's more of a cooperative thing than being at bat. | ||
| That's what I like. | ||
| The thing about being at bat, though, is like, uh-uh. | ||
| This is just me. | ||
| You're like, I'm not passing the ball. | ||
| Look, if I could pass the ball over to you, and you're open, and you can get a clean shot, I would 100% do that if I was playing team sports. | ||
| I wouldn't be greedy like that. | ||
| But baseball? | ||
| Yeah, you're going for it. | ||
| It's just me! | ||
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Yeah, you're going for it. | |
| That ball's coming! | ||
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We only need a single, Joe. | |
| Because they would always get mad at me. | ||
| I had this one coach that was very strategic, always trying to win. | ||
| And he knew that if he put me up there, I was cranking that ball. | ||
| But it just wasn't designed for baseball. | ||
| But that's you in life, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if I could figure out something where I would be 100% of my own, you know, when I got in there, like fighting, it's 100% just you or comedy. | ||
| You built this team, you built all these friends, this community, but when you're on stage, it's just you. | ||
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It's all you. | |
| It has to be you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But those people also help you get better. | ||
| Like when I'm doing shows and Shane Gillis is on the show and Ron White and Brian Simpson. | ||
| Yeah, you put strong eyes on them, man. | ||
| And I would go on stage an hour and a half into that. | ||
| Dude, how funny is Derek, man? | ||
| Derek is so good. | ||
| Derek has grown so much. | ||
| He's grown so much and being at the club like he's doing so many sets. | ||
| He's so grateful. | ||
| He's going little boy, fat man. | ||
| He's going back and forth to the rooms. | ||
| He's doing all these sets on the road with you. | ||
| And he's a true like team guy like he comes from sports in that way like he's like he wants the show to be great. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's a great human being. | ||
| He's a fucking great dude. | ||
| He's a gem of a human being. | ||
| And a happy, sweetheart of a guy. | ||
| Everybody loves Derek. | ||
| He's so grateful for you, man. | ||
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I'm grateful for him. | |
| And just the club and the experience. | ||
| Well, he was one of the first guys to take a chance. | ||
| I know. | ||
| To come out here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, he's like, I'm with you, Joe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like, alright, let's do it. | ||
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And he is. | |
| Like, if he says that, he means that shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And watching him grow, dude, like... | ||
| But he knew also, when I told him I was going to do it, I'm like, we're going to do this. | ||
| We're going to do this. | ||
| It's going to be the greatest club in the world. | ||
| Which is a crazy thing to say. | ||
| To pop up a scene in the middle of Texas. | ||
| But we did it. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| But we did it because of guys like Derek. | ||
| Guys like Hassan and Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| Those guys who moved here early. | ||
| Tom Segura moved here early. | ||
| When he says, I'm in. | ||
| When Tom Segura said I was in early on, I was like, oh shit, this is happening. | ||
| Because Tom did it Early in the pandemic. | ||
| I bought this house. | ||
| I sent him a video from my backyard. | ||
| I go, boys, what are you doing? | ||
| Get the fuck out of there. | ||
| Get the fuck out of L.A. It's on fire. | ||
| I go, no one here has a mask on. | ||
| I go, I think this is bullshit. | ||
| Come down. | ||
| Let's have a good time. | ||
| Let's hang out. | ||
| And Tom was like, I'm in. | ||
| He came out here early. | ||
| That means a lot to you, I felt. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, because it was a crazy chance I was asking people to take. | ||
| It wasn't just, I'm going to open up a club in Pasadena. | ||
| It wasn't like I bought the Ice House. | ||
| If I bought the Ice House, and the Ice House was for sale for a while, and Jerry Buss bought it, right? | ||
| Owner of the Lakers or whatever? | ||
| And they redid it, and I'm super happy that they did that, because it's an amazing club, and I love that place. | ||
| But at one point in time, I was thinking about buying the Ice House. | ||
| I remember you telling me that. | ||
| I was like, maybe I just buy that place. | ||
| But if I ask guys to come to the Ice House, that's easy. | ||
| That's a 20-minute drive. | ||
| No sacrifice. | ||
| You stay in your same house. | ||
| It had to be all those factors happening at the same time. | ||
| It had to be COVID. It had to be this weird way that they were governing these cities and that they weren't doing it in other parts of the country, particularly Florida and here. | ||
| And also that you couldn't do stand-up. | ||
| You couldn't do any stand-up in LA. They were stopping outside stand-up at the comedy store in the parking lot. | ||
| They wouldn't let them do comedy outside. | ||
| It didn't make any sense. | ||
| It was all crazy. | ||
| And it was going on forever. | ||
| And we were out here doing shows. | ||
| And we were putting it up on Instagram and everyone was like, this is crazy! | ||
| These motherfuckers are doing shows! | ||
| And we first started doing live shows indoors in November of 2020. And it felt so wrong. | ||
| It's like, what are we doing? | ||
| I did one weekend out here in July of 2020. And I decided after it that I couldn't do it anymore. | ||
| I didn't get sick, but I was like, but what if I did? | ||
| And what if I gave it to someone? | ||
| And what if that person died? | ||
| Like, what if I gave it to a guest? | ||
| You felt a responsibility. | ||
| I was terrified. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I feel like I would never forgive myself if I had some wonderful, sweet scientist as a guest and I gave that person COVID and they wound up dying because I was so selfish that I had to go on the road and do stand-up. | ||
| This is the empathy thing. | ||
| Yeah, so I was like, I can't do that. | ||
| You're not a sociopath. | ||
| Well, it's also just... | ||
| You're not good for the CIA, Joe. | ||
| I'm terrible for the CIA. I'll be terrible. | ||
| I'll be good if you get me in that UFO program, though. | ||
| I'll keep my mouth shut. | ||
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Wait, wait, what is this UFO? Get me in the UFO. Show me what you got! | |
| Show me what you got, I won't tell anybody. | ||
| Do you think they got something? | ||
| I'll be a disinformation agent for you. | ||
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You just want to know. | |
| I will say whatever you need. | ||
| Now, here's the question. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| What if they say to you, Joe, you can take the UFO for a spin, but don't floor it. | ||
| You can bunt in the UFO. I would listen because I don't want to turn to jelly. | ||
| If you're going faster than your body can tolerate it... | ||
| What if they said there's no way that you can die in this machine? | ||
| It's built in a way where you cannot die, but we're asking you to bunt. | ||
| I would bunt. | ||
| You'd have to bunt. | ||
| You'd have to bunt because you're going to have to come back to the ground. | ||
| You're going to have to land that thing. | ||
| They're going to kill you. | ||
| All right, fair enough. | ||
| They're going to fucking put you on an airplane with one of fucking Putin's boys. | ||
| You're going to get blown up over the Adriatic Sea. | ||
| Listen, man, no. | ||
| If they get you in the UFO, first of all, I wouldn't ask to pilot it. | ||
| I'd just take it for a spin. | ||
| Show me what the fuck this thing does. | ||
| Where did it come from? | ||
| Where did it come from? | ||
| And then I say, okay, so what do I tell them? | ||
| China? | ||
| I'll tell them China. | ||
| It's fucking Chinese, man. | ||
| Chinese are super advanced. | ||
| That's the last thing for you? | ||
| It's UFO? Once you feel that? | ||
| Well, it would suck to go to your grave and not know. | ||
| Because it seems like something for... | ||
| It's not what I thought when I was young. | ||
| When I was young, I thought UFOs are probably real, but a lot of these stories are bullshit, and I don't even know if UFOs actually are real, or if people are just liars, or if it's something that we want to believe because of science fiction, Orson Welles, and all that stuff. | ||
| But now I don't think that anymore. | ||
| Now I think, because of talking to guys... | ||
| Well, you and I went to dinner with Bob Lazar before he did the podcast, which was... | ||
| How fascinating was that? | ||
| I always tell people, I believe he believes it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That doesn't mean that it exists, but I don't think he's a liar. | ||
| I don't think he's a liar either, but I don't know, because some people are really good at that shit. | ||
| Again, I'm just going off of like... | ||
| The vibe. | ||
| Just the vibe that I got. | ||
| Yeah, but the vibe is hard because you want to believe. | ||
| He felt like he didn't want to be in there, Joe. | ||
| I remember at the dinner, he's like, listen, I'm not here to prove it. | ||
| I don't even need to do it. | ||
| I don't like doing this. | ||
| It hurts my life. | ||
| He said all the maybe the right things, but he didn't come across as so charismatic. | ||
| Like, usually people who are really good at lying are very charismatic. | ||
| Also, they lie about other stuff, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I didn't know enough about him to say, but he didn't have the charisma of someone that could trick and manipulate me. | ||
| He came across as pretty authentic and almost kind of rattled by the whole experience. | ||
| It almost felt traumatic when he was talking about it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It did. | ||
| Well, he told us something, too, that made a lot more sense, because one of the things that he's criticized about Is his education background. | ||
| He said he went to MIT. But he said there's no record of him at MIT. He's like, yeah, because there wasn't a record of me at MIT because I was involved in a program that you can't really say. | ||
| We can't say what he was involved in. | ||
| But when you hear what they're involved, what they were actually working on, you go, oh, yeah, well, that's... | ||
| You're not even supposed to do that, so I would imagine that if you're gonna get educated in that, it's not important that you get a degree that shows that you learned it from these people. | ||
| What's important is you get the information that you need in order to implement this plan, which was wild. | ||
| And you hear that, but the thing about it is, The other things they try to disprove him on, he has shown that it was accurate. | ||
| One of them, that he worked at Los Alamos Labs. | ||
| So they said that he never worked there. | ||
| But he did work there. | ||
| He did work there. | ||
| He's on the employee roster. | ||
| So not only that, he had an intimate knowledge of the building. | ||
| When George Knapp went with him to Los Alamos Labs, he knew where everything was. | ||
| He knew the security guards. | ||
| He knew the system. | ||
| Who's George Knapp? | ||
| George Knapp is an investigative reporter that broke the story in 1989. And he's been on it ever since. | ||
| And he also does a podcast with Jeremy Corbell. | ||
| Yeah, I know Jeremy. | ||
| It's all about this phenomenon. | ||
| And George Knapp is one of the best journalists that's ever covered it. | ||
| Because he's, like, covered it from the beginning. | ||
| And he will tell you what he knows and what he doesn't know. | ||
| And he's not a bullshitter in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| He's a hard-nosed... | ||
| Facts-based journalist who was the first guy to talk to Lazar. | ||
| And Lazar talked to him because he thought they were going to kill him. | ||
| Because he had started bringing people to watch the test flights because he got fired. | ||
| He got released. | ||
| And the reason why he got released is when you're on top secret clearance, when you're working for the government and they fly you to Area 51 and you're doing fucking work on spaceships, you're not allowed to tell anybody, including your wife. | ||
| So he'd get a phone call like 11 p.m. | ||
| I gotta go to work. | ||
| And he would leave. | ||
| And the wife was like, this motherfucker's cheating on me. | ||
| So she starts having an affair. | ||
| So she starts having an affair. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| So she starts having an affair and she starts having an affair and all their phones are tapped, of course. | ||
| But she doesn't know their phones are tapped because she doesn't know what he's doing. | ||
| Why would she? | ||
| Because he can't tell her what he's doing. | ||
| So she starts fucking this guy and then they're worried that he's going to be in a situation of emotional turmoil because his wife's having an effect. | ||
| So they don't share the information with him. | ||
| They just release him. | ||
| He's now fired. | ||
| So he's going back to his friends like, I'm working on fucking UFOs. | ||
| They have real UFOs. | ||
| They test them every Wednesday. | ||
| So he takes people out to Area 51 to an area that's restricted now. | ||
| But back then, before the Obama administration came along, in the Obama administration they expand the boundaries of Area 51. It was the first time they admitted Area 51 even existed. | ||
| So they had expanded because too many people were getting close enough to film things. | ||
| So these guys went out there and they filmed these fucking flying saucers flying around. | ||
| Is there video of this? | ||
| There's videos of the saucers. | ||
| There's videos of these things moving around in the desert. | ||
| See if you can find them. | ||
| This grainy Area 51 footage. | ||
| So they're doing these things where these vehicles are operating in a way conventional vehicles in 1989 were absolutely incapable of doing, as far as our understanding of it. | ||
| He gets arrested. | ||
| They catch him. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| And he says, he just spills the beans. | ||
| I got fired. | ||
| I wanted to let people know that this is real. | ||
| Now his life's in danger. | ||
| Now he's like, they're gonna fucking kill me. | ||
| So he contacts George Knapp and he's like, I think that if I just go public with this, I'll be too famous to be killed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So initially he does it with his face hidden. | ||
| So the initial interviews he does with his face hidden. | ||
| He's like silhouetted. | ||
| And then he decides, I have to go public with all this. | ||
| So he does these interviews. | ||
| He's explaining everything. | ||
| He draws diagrams. | ||
| He explains this element that was only theoretical at that point. | ||
| It was element 115. They didn't find it and proof of it until they used a particle collider in like the 2000s. | ||
| I want to say... | ||
| Switzerland or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, I want to say like 2013-ish. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So this is 1989. Wow. | ||
| This is Bob Lazar in 1989. Wow. | ||
| And this is him explaining all of the different stuff that he had to do there, where it is. | ||
| And by the way, at this point in time, this was all just legend. | ||
| No one knew if Area 51 was real. | ||
| And they had these hangers. | ||
| So these are these crafts that he brought people out to film. | ||
| He's like, these things, they move silently, they move with a gravity propulsion system that's operating off of this element, element 115. And this element 115, when hit with radioactive waves, It becomes this thing that can manipulate gravity with this generator that is in the center of these ships. | ||
| They don't have any controls. | ||
| Everything is controlled. | ||
| The human being, the alien creature, interfaces with this machine biologically or through some sort of- Neuralink. | ||
| They might not even be human at that point. | ||
| They might be Well, we're going to be some sort of a combination of artificial intelligence and biology or Strictly artificial intelligence at this point and these things interact with this craft and that's how it moves There's no like buttons you switch like alien and fucking joysticks like the Millennium Falcon. | ||
| There's none of that shit It's all done with the creature So he gets into this thing. | ||
| First of all, he realizes there's no seams. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Well, now we know what 3D printing is. | ||
| Now you know we can make a thing with no seams. | ||
| But back then, they don't know what the fuck it is. | ||
| And he realized right away, this is not ours. | ||
| When he first saw it, he thought, oh, now I know what all this UFO bullshit is about. | ||
| We have them. | ||
| It's ours. | ||
| We're working on this. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And they actually had an American flag sticker on one of them. | ||
| They put an American flag sticker on one of the UFOs. | ||
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Which is smart. | |
| Which is fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's fun. | ||
| You want other people to think that's ours? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then he gets in and he realizes it's designed for something that's three feet tall. | ||
| There's no seams. | ||
| There's no controls. | ||
| And it has this reactor in the center of it that defies anything we have any current understanding of. | ||
| In terms of what we believe is possible for propulsion systems, this is something completely alien. | ||
| And it involves a stable element that is only theoretical at this point. | ||
| They don't even know it exists. | ||
| They have a triangle, like a form of this stuff that's in the center of this. | ||
| See if you could find the video where he's describing The element... | ||
| The gravity generator. | ||
| But the element, that triangle thing you're talking about, is that the engine or is that essentially the gasoline? | ||
| That's the fuel. | ||
| That's the fuel. | ||
| Got it, got it, got it. | ||
| This thing, when bombarded with radiation, produces this... | ||
| I'm obviously butchering this. | ||
| But produces this... | ||
| See how he explains it. | ||
| Put the headphones on. | ||
| Powering the gravity amplifiers. | ||
| Do it from the beginning. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| So it's the reactor here, powering the gravity amplifiers... | ||
| Gravity amplifiers output goes into the gravity emitters at the bottom and the resulting gravity beam or anti-gravity wave can be pretty much put anywhere you want to. | ||
| I had access and was permitted to view and look at the operation of this main level with the gravity amplifiers and the level below the gravity emitters. | ||
| People call these large black rectangular areas on the top portholes. | ||
| I believe they were some planar sensor array that just took in information from the surrounding area, whether it be patterns of stars or what have you. | ||
| So we got the shape right. | ||
| Like, the sci-fi people got the shape right. | ||
| Yeah, well, they knew about it a long time ago. | ||
| Kenneth Arnold saw Flying Saucers in the 1950s. | ||
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Who's that? | |
| He was a pilot. | ||
| He was like one of the first... | ||
| See if you can see the Kenneth Arnold sightings. | ||
| It's one of the first reputable disclosures. | ||
| Because it was an American fighter pilot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's seeing these things, and he's describing them as like Flying Saucers skipping... | ||
| And all of them, they started all happening... | ||
| That's what he said he saw. | ||
| They started seeing these things right after the bombs dropped. | ||
| That's when everything started really popping off in this country. | ||
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And why? | |
| That's why the rooms in my club are named Fat Man and Little Boy. | ||
| They're named after the atomic bombs. | ||
| Because that's what started the whole UFO invasion. | ||
| Aliens see this huge explosion. | ||
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They're like, what are they doing? | |
| What are they doing down there? | ||
| We gotta go check them out. | ||
| I think that kind of checks out. | ||
| That's what I would do. | ||
| If I was from another planet and I realized, oh, these territorial primates have just developed nuclear weapons and they're dropping them out of propeller planes on cities, yo! | ||
| We've got to check this out. | ||
| We've got to investigate. | ||
| These people are going loco. | ||
| For our safety, because they could come for us if they had this technology. | ||
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100%. | |
| What if they've developed the ability to traverse the cosmos? | ||
| Bro, that's funny. | ||
| And then they see that we're just dropping them on each other and then they're like, eh, that'll be fine. | ||
| Depending on who you listen to. | ||
| See, one of the craziest things that Lazar talked about was that what human beings are, and what this planet is, is essentially a farm for souls. | ||
| And that there's some need for the essence of a life form, a soul. | ||
| Now, if you've created artificial intelligence, imagine if there's one hurdle that cannot be bypassed. | ||
| And that hurdle is a soul. | ||
| And that it's actually a real thing. | ||
| And it's a real, not just an energy, it's a type of matter, it's something. | ||
| It's something legitimate that creates an individual thing, a life form. | ||
| And these creatures, maybe they need souls. | ||
| So AI is not going to be sufficient? | ||
| I don't know, but this is the weirdest thing that he talked about. | ||
| He said that we're essentially a farm for souls. | ||
| But what does that mean? | ||
| Like, what do they need souls for? | ||
| But imagine if, like, there is, like, this process of existence, right? | ||
| So you have single-celled organisms that eventually become more advanced and become predator and prey. | ||
| And then you have this one intelligent, dominant form that starts figuring out tools, and that's the primates. | ||
| And over time, the primates evolve, and the primates get to the point where they've started using machines and internal combustion engines. | ||
| They're using propulsion. | ||
| They're using all these different things. | ||
| They're figuring out flight. | ||
| Then they're figuring out atomic energy and weapons. | ||
| And there's this transition that will continue. | ||
| And that transition will go into more and more advanced technology if they don't blow themselves up. | ||
| So, if what our natural evolution is, is to go from being Australopithecus, to go from being, you know, the cousin of the chimpanzee, to being what we are today, to being what we will be in the future, I think what we will be in the future is probably them. | ||
| When you see these aliens with these giant heads, these little spindly bodies and no genitals, we seem like we're on that path. | ||
| Like that seems like a natural path. | ||
| It doesn't seem like if Bigfoot was flying UFOs, you'd be like, why are we Bigfoot again? | ||
| I thought we passed that. | ||
| I thought we evolved past being hairy brutes and we became this thing that's like gentle and telepathic and it doesn't use any muscular force. | ||
| Everything is done through telekinesis. | ||
| The communication is telepathic. | ||
| The communication with the craft is telepathic. | ||
| Everything is done through this way of integration with technology, because they've become physically integrated. | ||
| They might not even be biological anymore, but they might still need souls. | ||
| Soul might be a force. | ||
| It might be a thing that's necessary for the cultivation of another version of us on another planet. | ||
| If this is a process, just like a garden, Right? | ||
| Where you have the soil, you till the soil, you fertilize it, you plant the seeds, you water it, they grow, the crops grow, and then you harvest them. | ||
| If this is a process, and that's what human beings are, just like you have a fucking elk farm in New Zealand, and that's how you get tenderloins. | ||
| It's a process. | ||
| Like, you have to do all these things to get this result. | ||
| What if we're a farm for souls? | ||
| But who's farming us? | ||
| Advanced life forms. | ||
| So they need our souls for something. | ||
| It's an energy source for them in some way. | ||
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It sounds so ridiculous. | |
| No, no, let's go on. | ||
| But it sounds ridiculous even as I'm saying it and as you're repeating it. | ||
| Like, they need us for souls. | ||
| It sounds like some L. Ron Hubbard science fiction. | ||
| No, but to me that makes sense why they would be concerned about the nuclear bombs is because if we destroy ourselves, they no longer have these souls. | ||
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We kill the farm. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, we kill the farm. | ||
| Right now the farm's doing great. | ||
| There's more people than ever. | ||
| That's what we like. | ||
| As long as we don't have a massive depopulation event like a nuclear war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that makes sense that it would, you know, catch their attention. | ||
| They'd come in, they'd be like, yeah, yeah, we got to kind of shut this thing down or at least... | ||
| If we are really the product of accelerated evolution, which is much speculized... | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| We're the product of accelerated... | ||
| Accelerated evolution. | ||
| Which, like, look... | ||
| We are very, very, very, very, very different from everything else on this planet by a long stretch. | ||
| Not by a couple of years, by a long stretch. | ||
| You know, by every other primate, the best they can do is use a stick to get termites, right? | ||
| You know, oh, well, one thing is orangutan spearfish. | ||
| Oh, they're making weapons. | ||
| They figured out how to spearfish. | ||
| And they learned it from us, apparently. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they can do that. | ||
| Orangutans use tools. | ||
| But isn't there a theory that now they're at a different level in the evolutionary chart? | ||
| Yeah, the current understanding is that they have begun the Stone Age. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kind of cool to see it happen. | ||
| It's crazy to see it happen. | ||
| Have you ever seen the orangutan spearfishing? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You guys see this picture? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jamie, pull it. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| This orangutan is stabbing fish while hanging from a tree like this. | ||
| He's like stabbing fish with one arm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they figured out how to use tools. | ||
| Whoa, this is actually interesting. | ||
| So if we're watching them in their Stone Age, it's completely plausible that some other life form is watching us in our advanced state of evolution. | ||
| Look at that dude. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| Homeboy spear-fishing, hanging out with his feet and one arm. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I mean, it's nuts, man. | ||
| It's fucking nuts. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He observed local fishermen do it, and he figured out how to do it himself. | ||
| Pretty fucking crazy, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Pretty dope. | ||
| He's probably the kink pimp of all of the orangutans. | ||
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100%. | |
| Yeah, he's the dude who figured it out. | ||
| They're probably all like, whoa, this guy's a wizard. | ||
| He gets fish. | ||
| Oh, there's a video of it? | ||
| I was hoping there was, but I started... | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| So... | ||
| I could believe that. | ||
| I could subscribe to that. | ||
| Things evolve. | ||
| If you left them alone like that, spearfishing, for 500,000 years, a million years, who knows? | ||
| They'd probably look like cavemen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I bet eventually they look like cavemen, depending upon what is causing... | ||
| This advancement and how quickly. | ||
| So that's the mushroom question. | ||
| So that's the stoned ape theory. | ||
| Terence McKenna believed that it had a lot to do with the consumption of psilocybin mushrooms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, is the psilocybin mushrooms what? | ||
| It allows you to... | ||
| To solve problems in an outside-of-the-box way. | ||
| What kind of a competitive advantage? | ||
| Formation of language through glossolalia. | ||
| Glossolalia is like you start associating sounds with objects and language. | ||
| The formulation of language, then psilocybin would aid in that. | ||
| Aid in creativity, aid in visual acuity. | ||
| They've done studies where they showed that people under doses of psilocybin detect edges quicker. | ||
| So if you have two lines that are parallel lines, if you deviate one even slightly, people on psilocybin notice it quicker than people that aren't on psilocybin. | ||
| So it increases visual acuity. | ||
| It makes people hornier, so it makes people more likely to breed. | ||
| It makes you a better hunter because it increases your visual acuity. | ||
| You're understanding a space, probably you're more tuned in and more sensitive to things. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of folks out there microdosing on mushrooms and it helps them do a lot of things. | ||
| Snowboarders... | ||
| Could AI... Could AI for us be what mushrooms were for these primates? | ||
| But times a billion. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So that's where you see that next leap. | ||
| So mushrooms come around, the apes start using tools, doing whatever they want, and then now you accelerate evolution. | ||
| Well, the mushrooms probably are the seed for artificial intelligence because the mushrooms give you the creativity to start doing wild things in the first place, which always leads to technology, which leads to a life form. | ||
| And now with AI, you have that with exponential growth. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So they're solving millions and trillions of problems in a minute that would take us- Not only that, they can make a better version of themselves. | ||
| Once they become sentient, then they become God, because they make better versions of themselves with no end in sight. | ||
| So if you have an artificial intelligence that's as intelligent as every human being on Earth combined, which is essentially what they think is going to happen, when you get that, it has all the knowledge of all human beings. | ||
| Then he's going to find the flaws in all of our methods. | ||
| And then it's going to be using quantum computing. | ||
| So it's going to have the type of computing power That's, who knows, a million, a hundred million times what we have today. | ||
| And then it's going to develop better versions of quantum computing. | ||
| It's going to develop better methods of extracting energy from all sorts of different resources. | ||
| It's not going to need lithium, ion. | ||
| This is where the graph goes vertical. | ||
| It just goes straight up and it never stops. | ||
| It's going to harness the very power of the universe itself. | ||
| It literally can become a god. | ||
| If you just keep going, if artificial intelligence is allowed to keep exponentially growing and it gets past being far more intelligent, how many more steps is it until it's Dr. Manhattan? | ||
| Is it a week? | ||
| Is it a month? | ||
| Is it a year? | ||
| Whatever it is, it's going there. | ||
| It's going to get to a point where it can time travel. | ||
| It's going to get to a point where it can show up on other planets instantaneously. | ||
| It's going to get to a point where it can harness all the available power in the universe itself and use it and manipulate it and figure out how to create it. | ||
| It might be able to create new universes. | ||
| If a universe is created, if a Big Bang exists, if there is a singularity, if there is a moment where there's some thing that's infinitely small... | ||
| Why wouldn't it be able to create the exact same thing? | ||
| Why wouldn't it be? | ||
| If it can be done, if it can be created, if it is a thing, if it is a thing that's dependent upon the forces of the universe itself... | ||
| In a deep understanding of those forces, an understanding of those forces in the quantum level, the subatomic level, at everything – look, at the subatomic level, everything is magic, right? | ||
| You know, particles in superposition are both moving and stable at the same time. | ||
| The laws of physics don't apply to the subatomic realm. | ||
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It's magic. | |
| It becomes magic. | ||
| Got it, got it, got it. | ||
| Most of atoms are empty space. | ||
| We don't even understand what the fuck is going on. | ||
| We know that particles communicate instantaneously with other particles that are nowhere near them, miles away. | ||
| There are two places at the same time. | ||
| They're intertwined in some strange way that we don't understand. | ||
| If something becomes so advanced that it has control over those forces and it utilizes all of those forces, And it literally has a complete understanding of everything that's happening at every given time in the entire universe. | ||
| So this could potentially happen in our lifetime, right? | ||
| Let's say. | ||
| If it doesn't, it's going to happen in our kids' lifetimes if our kids make it. | ||
| But think about it. | ||
| If it happens in our lifetime, our generation... | ||
| We'll have lived before the internet, the internet, and singularity? | ||
| Yeah, the singularity. | ||
| What a crazy existence. | ||
| 2045 is what Kurzweil believes. | ||
| Imagine we lived through all of that. | ||
| Imagine we lived through the time where I couldn't get in touch with you unless you were home and could hear your phone. | ||
| And we could also live in a time where I could instantaneously be at your fucking house. | ||
| Yeah, in the same life. | ||
| Yeah, we're probably the civilization, our time period, that's experienced the most radical change. | ||
| Other than, like, obviously wars, nuclear bombs, things like that. | ||
| That's pretty radical change. | ||
| But globally, the most radical change in terms of how the culture communicates with itself. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| With the access to information, what's true and what's not true. | ||
| There's never been a time like this. | ||
| Who's leading the AI research in the world right now? | ||
| Well, there's quite a few different companies that are competing. | ||
| There's the Google AI that got shut down. | ||
| United States supposedly is in the lead, but how would we know? | ||
| China's probably there, I imagine. | ||
| They'll be the first to hit that switch. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they just don't have to say it. | ||
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They don't give a fuck. | |
| That is the advantage of not giving a fuck. | ||
| Not giving a fuck and having a dictatorship. | ||
| Yeah, with a singular goal. | ||
| And also, a country, like, you have to respect the history of China. | ||
| China has thrived economically for 4,000 years. | ||
| Yeah, they kept it all together. | ||
| China has a temple of their first emperor, where they are afraid to enter it. | ||
| Because apparently he booby-trapped it with so much mercury that you open the doors, it'll just flood everyone with mercury. | ||
| He created some crazy booby trap and all the ground around that area tests very high in levels of mercury. | ||
| So they think some of it is like seeping into the ground. | ||
| So they think it's true. | ||
| So this is the guy that had the terracotta statues that are guarding... | ||
| That are underwater? | ||
| No, it was all underground. | ||
| It was all buried. | ||
| So he had this temple that's underground that is probably filled with who knows how many priceless artifacts and people are afraid to open it. | ||
| This is the first emperor of China. | ||
| Google the first emperor of China. | ||
| Bro, they can't open the temple. | ||
| They want to go in and see it, but they're afraid it's booby-trapped with mercury. | ||
| Like, how much fucking mercury would you have to have? | ||
| And how long ago are we talking about? | ||
| Like, 94 BC. What year was it, Jamie? | ||
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Wow, 94 BC. Wow. | |
| This is the booby trap legend circa 94 BC. I don't know how to say his name. | ||
| Sima Kwan wrote a clear and illuminated description of what lies beneath the 51.3 meter high mound in his famous work, the Shijit. | ||
| In the ninth month, the first emperor was buried at Mount Lee. | ||
| When the first emperor had just come to the throne, excavations and building work had taken place at Mount Lee. | ||
| But when he unified all under heaven, convicts to the number of more than 700,000 were sent there from all over the empire. | ||
| They dug through the three springs and poured down molten bronze to make the outer coffin and replicates of palaces, pavilions, all the various officials and wonderful vessels and other rare objects were brought up to the tomb, which was then filled with them. | ||
| Craftsmen were ordered to make crossbows and arrows which would operate automatically so that anyone who approached what had been excavated was immediately shot. | ||
| Quicksilver, mercury, was used to represent the various waterways, the Yangtze and Yellow Rivers, and the Great Sea, being made by some mechanisms to flow into each other, and above were arranged the heavenly constellations, and below was the layout of the land. | ||
| Candles were made out of whale fat, Alternative literal translations mermaid ointment. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Or man fish oil. | ||
| What the fuck does that mean? | ||
| Human oil probably from burned people's fat. | ||
| For it was reckoned that it would be a long time before they were extinguished. | ||
| The second generation said... | ||
| It would not be right that any of the previous emperor's concubine should emerge from this place unless she has a son. | ||
| They were all ordered to accompany him to death. | ||
| And those who died were extremely numerous. | ||
| After the burial had taken place, someone mentioned the fact that the workers and craftsmen who had constructed the mechanical devices would know about all the buried treasures. | ||
| And the importance of the treasures would immediately be disclosed. | ||
| Consequently, when the great occasion was finished and after the treasures had been hidden away, the main entranceway to the tomb was shut off and the outer gates lowered so that all the workers and craftsmen who had buried the treasure were shut in and there were none who came out again and the vegetation and trees were planted to make it look like a hill. | ||
| So they killed 700,000 workers? | ||
| Is that what they're saying? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Thus we find the source of the legends we know today, but Seema Kwan wrote in his description 123 years after the death of Shi Huang. | ||
| Could his fantasy-like account of the mermaid ointment, probably whale oil, flowing rivers of mercury, 700,000 laborers, crossbow booby traps, and buried alive workers be credible? | ||
| Or is he just writing for effect? | ||
| Can we trust the descriptions? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Says that one of the camps historian celebrates the trustworthiness of Sima Quan by emphasizing the extreme care which Sima Quan gathered and weighed available evidence in an attempt to convey an objective portrait of the Chinese past. | ||
| Other camps are more skeptical, stressing there were intensely personal motivations that prompted Simi Kwan's decision to complete masterwork of history begun by his father. | ||
| The more suspicious camp accuses Kwan of exaggerating his accounts by being too much of a lyrical romanticist, too religious to convey an accurate depiction of history. | ||
| But either way, they found mercury all around that area, and they still have not opened it. | ||
| They're still worried. | ||
| This is like thousands of years later. | ||
| Has China ever been fractured? | ||
| Like in the way that Europe is fractured? | ||
| Or even the Roman Empire had this large swath of land in control, and then it's been broken up. | ||
| China seems like this massive land mass with all these people for a very long period of time. | ||
| How do you maintain that? | ||
| That's the way they do it. | ||
| I mean, it's kind of impressive. | ||
| It's unbelievably impressive. | ||
| It's very impressive. | ||
| It's very impressive that they've been around for 4,000 years and that they've done this. | ||
| And what is maintaining that? | ||
| Power. | ||
| But what? | ||
| Is it just fear? | ||
| Is it religion? | ||
| It's fear. | ||
| I don't think that they're very religious, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| At least now they're not. | ||
| Well, they definitely shun other religions like the Uyghurs. | ||
| I think they shun all because it is a threat to the power. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's about the state. | ||
| But to maintain that identity, to maintain a cultural identity for 4,000 years. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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Wow. | |
| How do you do that? | ||
| You do it by playing 4D chess. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're definitely doing that. | ||
| I mean, the involvement in our education institutions, buying up American farmland. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Like, they're clearly playing a different game. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They're playing an influence game. | ||
| Much more sophisticated game. | ||
| Yeah, and they're using, I think, capitalism against us. | ||
| And I think that's something that we gotta be a little bit more aware of. | ||
| Like, capitalism is an amazing system, but it's amazing when you're the richest country. | ||
| When there are other countries with wealth, they can start buying things, and they can start implementing their influence. | ||
| When they hold the carrot, right? | ||
| Like, that's the scary thing. | ||
| You can change culture without even telling people to change. | ||
| When you know that China buys 10 movies, and they have to be made with these specifications, right? | ||
| Hollywood will start making movies according to those specifications because they want to make the money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But now, China's influencing our culture and the movies that disseminate America on the hope that China will buy them. | ||
| They don't all get bought, but the movies are different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How else can they influence like that? | ||
| If you hold the fucking carrot, you can put anything you want out there. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they don't hold all the carrots, but they can partially hold it. | ||
| It is a dangerous thing. | ||
| You have to be concerned with how much foreign investment comes into your country. | ||
| Also, we just let other countries who are enemies buy land. | ||
| Yeah, that is peculiar. | ||
| Not just that. | ||
| We let them sell us routers. | ||
| Sell us networking equipment because it's cheaper. | ||
| I thought we stopped that. | ||
| Well, they still have a lot. | ||
| I thought that was the whole Huawei thing. | ||
| That was only Huawei. | ||
| That was only Huawei. | ||
| But if you look at, like, Mike Baker laid this out to me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| All of the cell towers and all the stuff that's around like military bases, a lot of the equipment has been provided by China. | ||
| I can't fathom- They're provided cheaper. | ||
| I can't fathom that our military would be purchasing technological equipment from- The same military that made Rachel Levine the first female admiral? | ||
| You don't think? | ||
| You don't think they could fuck that up too? | ||
| The same military that made that fucking bag stealer. | ||
| That bald-headed bag stealer who was stealing shit. | ||
| That was the person in charge of nuclear waste disposal. | ||
| And are they an expert in any way? | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| They're an expert in wearing women's shoes. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's all you have to be. | ||
| It's all you have to be. | ||
| You just got to check the right box. | ||
| We're in the DEI program now, bro. | ||
| And a lot of that is also funded by China. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And Russia as well. | ||
| Look, Yuri Bezmenov talked about this in the 1980s, how they've infiltrated our education institutions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they're slowly turning us into Marxists, and they're slowly having us erode our faith in democracy and our pride in the country. | ||
| Yeah, Pride does seem, like it said, an all-time low. | ||
| It's a really disappointing thing. | ||
| Yeah, but I feel like it's like waves. | ||
| Like things go back and forth. | ||
| Yeah, pendulum shift 100%, but it is one of those things where... | ||
| Pendulum shift. | ||
| There's over-corrections, there's re-corrections. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that's the defund the police thing, too. | ||
| That's the over-correction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| And then the no-cash bail, that's the over-correction. | ||
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| And then people are like, oh my God, look at all this chaos and crime. | ||
| We gotta re-correct. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, shift back. | ||
| And hopefully they do. | ||
| And hopefully they figure that out. | ||
| But what about Pride? | ||
| Pride? | ||
| How do we instill pride? | ||
| How do we make people proud to be part of the American experience? | ||
| It's not to say that all of us are not. | ||
| There's definitely a lot that are. | ||
| But how do we re-instill that? | ||
| I think one of the things, this is a simplistic answer, but one of the things is American manufacturing and American-made things. | ||
| Yeah, what are we making? | ||
| And have people support American-made companies and give people real jobs just because something costs less Because it's made in a country where people get paid nothing. | ||
| Doesn't mean you should buy that. | ||
| And if you could buy something that maybe costs more, but it gives people a living wage and healthcare and they have families and they could buy a house, that's what you should be buying. | ||
| Why are you proud to be American? | ||
| It's a great fucking place! | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| It's the cultural center point of the whole planet. | ||
| It's the only place you can live all 12 months. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Where else would you live for 12 months? | ||
| Name another country. | ||
| Bali. | ||
| Fuck out of here. | ||
| You can go rainy season in Bali walking around in fucking rainbow sandals like Bert Kreicher. | ||
| How much does it rain? | ||
| Out of your mind. | ||
| Does it rain a lot? | ||
| In Bali? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you don't get that green without the rain. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you get like typhoons and shit? | ||
| Yeah, you're not living there. | ||
| You don't want a tropical storm, son. | ||
| You don't want it. | ||
| You don't want a tropical storm in your life. | ||
| Especially without infrastructure. | ||
| Yeah, but you don't want to live in Kansas either when the tornadoes come. | ||
| But you have the opportunity to not live there. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's the thing about America. | ||
| You can live... | ||
| November to April, the wet season. | ||
| Yeah, fuck that. | ||
| Often called the rainy season or monsoon season. | ||
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Yeah, we're not doing it. | |
| Due to its heavy storms and downpours. | ||
| We're not doing it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What I'm trying to say is there isn't another country that you can live all 12 months of the year. | ||
| You go to Abu Dhabi. | ||
| They make it rain. | ||
| In the fucking sun. | ||
| They make it rain. | ||
| But think about it. | ||
| In the summer, in July, in Abu Dhabi. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's no fucking way. | ||
| It was so hot there that the Saudis would come to LA for relief. | ||
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Of course. | |
| They go to London. | ||
| Who goes to fucking London? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For weather. | ||
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| Right. | ||
| So it's like, this is the only one. | ||
| I genuinely, I cannot think of another one. | ||
| 12 months. | ||
| The whole country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you live in Phoenix, you can live the whole country all year round. | ||
| But you can move around here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| True. | ||
| If you have the money, you can live in New York for these months, you can go to Florida, you can go to whatever. | ||
| There's an option. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| You can't live anywhere else. | ||
| But that's not the pride thing for me. | ||
| I think the pride thing is like, I truly believe you can be the best version of yourself here. | ||
| And I think anybody else in the world can be the best, most successful version of themselves here. | ||
| And that's why I'm proud to be American. | ||
| You can reach your full potential in this country. | ||
| It's a fun place. | ||
| Hey, there's a lot of fun places. | ||
| But can you reach your full potential in these other places? | ||
| They took fucking Jack Ma and they brought him into a basement when he got too powerful in China. | ||
| He talked a little shit. | ||
| He thought he was bigger than the system. | ||
| So they shut it down. | ||
| They saw what was happening to our tech billionaires here and they're like, hey, we're not gonna let that fucking shit happen here. | ||
| You're going to the basement. | ||
| Here, I'm not saying Joe Rogan isn't gonna be successful no matter where he goes, but you're gonna have fucking issues if you're in China, coming and having this much influence and a podcast and you're gonna have a talk. | ||
| You're gonna have some basement talks. | ||
| But in this fucking country, you can be the greatest version of yourself, and I don't know if there's another country that offers that opportunity. | ||
| And more importantly, anyone that's trying to stop that, Is un-American. | ||
| If you're trying to censor people's speech. | ||
| If you're trying to stifle people's growth. | ||
| And Americans will fight for you because of it. | ||
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It happens. | |
| This is the hit piece thing. | ||
| When we see the hit piece, it tears at our American identity. | ||
| Even if you don't admit you are, there's a part of you that's going, whoa, whoa, this person's trying to be great. | ||
| And we're all here because we're trying to be great or our family came here to be great. | ||
| And this one's trying to be great and the world is trying to stop that. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| It's some people are trying to stop that. | ||
| Some people are trying to stop that. | ||
| But we're still... | ||
| We have animosity for those people that are trying to stop greatness because it is a core tenet here. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You can be great. | ||
| An individual can be great here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that's a really special thing that we kind of lose here. | ||
| That we lose sight of. | ||
| But it is what makes me proud. | ||
| Maybe it's because my mom's not from here and she came here and she felt like she had all this opportunity and it was like, you can't tell my mom that's not the greatest country in the world. | ||
| So I grew up with that. | ||
| And of course there's tons of problems, but this idea that you can really achieve. | ||
| You're always gonna have problems when you have human beings. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And there's no perfect solution. | ||
| Like universal basic income isn't the perfect solution. | ||
| Welfare is not the perfect solution. | ||
| There's no perfect solution to fix all that ails us. | ||
| But at least here, you can go from the bottom to the top. | ||
| You can go for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can really go for it. | ||
| And you're not like... | ||
| Start from the bottom now we're here. | ||
| Facts. | ||
| In some places, like, you might have the aptitude to go from the bottom to the top, but the culture will be oppressive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm not even talking about third world. | ||
| I'm not talking about China. | ||
| I'm talking about there are places where there's a system where, like, hey, you're working class? | ||
| How dare you try to not be working class? | ||
| Yeah, that's what my friends in England say. | ||
| My friends in England. | ||
| My mom's from Scotland, that's what it was. | ||
| It's like, how dare you try to be great? | ||
| And here it's like, wait, you're not trying to be great? | ||
| Why aren't you trying to be great? | ||
| You have the opportunity to be great. | ||
| And when we see greatness, we support it. | ||
| That's not to say that we don't have jealousy and animosity, but there still is a version of it here where it's like, nah, that motherfucker's great. | ||
| And I am excited by that person's greatness. | ||
| If you're a winner. | ||
| But then you're also going to have a bunch of people that are just happy when you fall. | ||
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That's humans. | |
| That is humans. | ||
| We have it too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's not a cultural oppression that exists for greatness. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The place is built to go to the top. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it makes me proud. | ||
| For me, I wish more people would grab onto that idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's all of us too. | ||
| That's what's so crazy about the idea that the American flag, the symbol, the American flag is offensive. | ||
| It's the best flag. | ||
| But it's so crazy that that's all of us. | ||
| That's even the good, the stuff that you think is good about America. | ||
| Even if you're like the hardcore, the most hard, far-left, hippie, fucking anarchist. | ||
| You are a part of America. | ||
| Your ideas are America as well. | ||
| That flag is yours too. | ||
| And we kind of need them. | ||
| We need everybody. | ||
| We need that back and forth. | ||
| We need that pendulum to sway. | ||
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| We need balance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You see what happens when there's just people existing in that echo tree. | ||
| You saw what happens in fucking San Francisco or even LA. You see like an idea permeate and then a very lax law or a lack of enforcement of that law create a culture that people are now not happy with. | ||
| If you ask the average person in LA or San Francisco, they're like, maybe we need some rules now. | ||
| I think rules would be okay. | ||
| We could punish some crimes. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you exist in the echo chamber, you're fighting for different sides of liberalism. | ||
| You don't have that balance where these people are yelling at these people and we kind of end up in here. | ||
| And that's healthy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That little back and forth is healthy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I get stoked off the American experience. | ||
| But it does make me sad when I feel like everybody's upset about it. | ||
| The right thinks it sucks. | ||
| The left thinks it sucks. | ||
| Everybody just thinks it sucks. | ||
| And it's like, I don't know, man. | ||
| Well, I just think there's a lot of problems that exist today that weren't... | ||
| Problems decades ago, particularly social issues. | ||
| The impact of social media has thrown this country into a fucking turmoil. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| It's a force that we didn't anticipate, the amount of echo chambers that exist, the amount of people that gather up together in these groups, and they have full confirmation bias. | ||
| They only believe one side. | ||
| They disregard all evidence from the other side. | ||
| They dig their heels in. | ||
| They want to be on the right side of history. | ||
| If Donald Trump wins, he's a threat to democracy. | ||
| Joe Biden's a criminal. | ||
| He's a threat to democracy. | ||
| Our whole life is at stake with this election. | ||
| If you're on the wrong side, you've been co-opted by the bad people. | ||
| There's just so much tension that exists today where you can't have a difference of opinion with your neighbors. | ||
| Where it used to be, if your neighbor was a Republican and you were a Democrat, nobody gave a shit. | ||
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| Like, what's up, Bob? | ||
| Maybe he would get annoying and he'd want to talk to you about fucking Watergate or something. | ||
| Like, I gotta go, bro. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| But it wasn't anti-American. | ||
| It wasn't as divisive, yeah. | ||
| He wasn't the main problem in the world. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, he wasn't a Nazi. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He just wanted to hold on to his money. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He just thought you were a little bit of a pussy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you just thought he was maybe a little racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you still barbecued. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It wasn't that crazy. | ||
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You said hi. | |
| You waved to each other when you were in the driveway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now you think it's so divisive because of the internet. | ||
| The echo chambers are created. | ||
| And it's this good versus evil mentality on both sides. | ||
| So how dare you hang out with someone who's evil? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What does that make of you? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And then also, like, people dig their heels in and put fucking political signs on their front lawn. | ||
| My mom used to do that. | ||
| When she left in Florida, she had, like, Hillary Clinton signs on her front lawn, and people kept stealing them. | ||
| I'm like, Mom, take those down. | ||
| Wait, what do you mean? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Like, what type of signs? | ||
| Like, Hillary for president! | ||
| Oh, hilarious. | ||
| Your mom. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| The apple falls far from the tree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then she goes, they keep taking my signs. | ||
| I'm like, mom, don't put those signs up. | ||
| It's really you. | ||
| You're living in Florida. | ||
| It's just you. | ||
| You're just sending people to take the signs. | ||
| She was living in Florida. | ||
| I'm like, what do you expect? | ||
| It's a red state. | ||
| So, was she a big liberal? | ||
| Oh, my mom's a huge liberal. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does she acknowledge that liberals... | ||
| They were hippies when I was a kid. | ||
| We lived in San Francisco during the height of the anti-war movement. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, I grew up... | ||
| When I was seven years old, we moved to San Francisco. | ||
| Do you remember this? | ||
| Yeah, very clearly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And has this kind of informed your politics a bit? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we lived in a gay neighborhood. | ||
| It was like all these hippies and gay guys would whistle at my stepdad. | ||
| No way! | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It was funny. | ||
| So you're like, I need to learn martial arts. | ||
| No, it wasn't dangerous. | ||
| These guys are coming for me. | ||
| It wasn't dangerous. | ||
| I mean, there was some crime. | ||
| I got my basketball stolen once. | ||
| But it wasn't bad. | ||
| It was a different time. | ||
| Peace and love was real back then. | ||
| The hippie movement was a real thing. | ||
| Oh, you felt it was pure? | ||
| Yeah, they were nice people, man. | ||
| I didn't even know what the N-word meant until I moved to Florida. | ||
| No way. | ||
| I had never heard it. | ||
| I never heard it. | ||
| I never heard it in San Francisco. | ||
| Nobody leaves me. | ||
| I didn't hear it. | ||
| Nobody said it. | ||
| It was so integrated. | ||
| Everybody was Asian and black and white. | ||
| The hippie movement was real, man, and it permeated the city in a kind way. | ||
| They were nice people. | ||
| It was a different time. | ||
| And it was also when I was living there was when the Vietnam War ended. | ||
| And I remember very clearly thinking to myself as like, I guess I was 10 or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, oh boy. | ||
| You felt relief as a kid? | ||
| I'm so happy because now there won't be war anymore. | ||
| They figured out that war is bad. | ||
| Because while Vietnam was going on, everybody knew it was a crazy war. | ||
| It didn't make any sense. | ||
| There was all these protests. | ||
| And then there was like Kent State where they shot the fucking protesters. | ||
| You know, the National Guard came and shot the protesters. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So there was this craziness, this turmoil in this country that didn't exist, you know, in... | ||
| It was a way that it's... | ||
| Wait a minute, this is interesting. | ||
| More than now, you felt? | ||
| It's hard to say because I was a kid. | ||
| But there was definitely a thing where they were drafting people to go and fight in this war. | ||
| And that was part of it. | ||
| It was the conscription. | ||
| They were forcing you to go die in war. | ||
| And we knew people that had gotten forced to go over there. | ||
| And knew people that had died over there. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| It was a weird fear that they could force you to go to war. | ||
| And so when that was over, there was this relief, like, okay, good, we figured that out. | ||
| And then, you know, fucking ten years later, I was hanging out with my roommate, we were watching Operation Desert Storm kick off on TV, like, this is crazy. | ||
| Here we go again. | ||
| Here we go, man. | ||
| It was me and my buddy Jimmy Dottilio. | ||
| We're sitting in our house, and we're watching this. | ||
| We're living together in Malden, Massachusetts, and we're watching this fucking TV while we're... | ||
| Bro, we're at war. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| We're watching the Tracer missiles, you know, the Tracer rounds. | ||
| I don't know what those are. | ||
| The way you could see the bullets. | ||
| They're lit up as they're flying through the air, and they're shooting them out of helicopters and shit. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| And, you know, Operation Desert Storm, the first war, was like a lot... | ||
| It was like the first war that was, like, televised. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you could watch shit get blown up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And I can't believe it. | ||
| I was like, God damn it, we're doing it again. | ||
| And this was like, you know... | ||
| It was, I guess, the 90s, right? | ||
| When was the Iraq War? | ||
| When was the first Iraq War? | ||
| Bush. | ||
| When they pulled out. | ||
| Bush is... | ||
| What is first Bush? | ||
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Bush. | |
| 92? | ||
| So they pulled out. | ||
| We only lost like a small number of troops. | ||
| Gulf War, 90 to 91. Got it. | ||
| So it was quick. | ||
| And Bill Hicks had the great bit about it. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| He goes, it's only a war when two armies are fighting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he goes, they say, Bill, they say the Iraq War is the fifth largest army. | ||
| He goes, yeah, but after the first two, there's a big drop-off. | ||
| He goes, Salvation Army is number three. | ||
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That's funny. | |
| That's a great bit. | ||
| But it's true. | ||
| Yeah, they gotta find a way to justify it. | ||
| You know, and guys were just practicing. | ||
| They were just doing stuff. | ||
| Remember he had that bit, like, pull up G12. What does G12 do? | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
| And they're just, like, going through the weapons catalog. | ||
| Like, pull that one up. | ||
| Shoot it. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| What's G13 do? | ||
| And that, like, that was a Hicks bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| And that one confused the shit out of everybody because we thought war was easy. | ||
| We thought, bro, we'll just go over there and fuck everybody up real quick. | ||
| Like we did. | ||
| But why did we think war was easy? | ||
| Because they did it. | ||
| You're saying afterwards we thought war was easy. | ||
| The Iraq war was so easy for us. | ||
| That we thought that's war. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whereas Vietnam was this like... | ||
| Difficult, long, dredged out. | ||
| Didn't make any sense either. | ||
| This one was more like, oh, there's a despot. | ||
| We got to get him out. | ||
| Look how quick we could do it. | ||
| He invaded Kuwait. | ||
| Look how quick we take care of business. | ||
| This is how. | ||
| And we're like, goddamn, America's pretty badass. | ||
| So we got super cocky. | ||
| It was like Mike Tyson before he fought Buster Douglas. | ||
| Mike Tyson fights a blowout. | ||
| I'm not paying 50 bucks for that. | ||
| It's going to last 30 seconds. | ||
| And then you don't pay for the Buster Douglas fight. | ||
| You're like, no! | ||
| What? | ||
| He lost? | ||
| No way! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so then the second Iraq work, and then you got real casualties. | ||
| The invasion of Afghanistan, and it's going on forever and ever and ever. | ||
| And it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| You realize, oh, God, this is a never-ending war. | ||
| This is almost like Vietnam. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is horrible, man. | ||
| I mean, that's the most horrible thing that people do, and it's the one thing that we don't think people will ever stop doing. | ||
| Which is war. | ||
| If you ask people, you think in 10 years there'll be no war. | ||
| No way. | ||
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No way. | |
| There's never been a time. | ||
| There's never been a time while we've been alive with our tribal instincts that we haven't decided to control someone's resources or justify an invasion or come up with some reason why someone's wronged us and blow up pipelines. | ||
| We did blow it up, huh? | ||
| I don't think they did it. | ||
| Why would they do it? | ||
| Why would they cut off their supply of gas to Europe and miss out on all that money? | ||
| So CIA does it, or...? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I would be just talking completely out of my ass, but Seymour Hersh said the CIA did it. | ||
| And he's a very, very well-respected journalist. | ||
| I mean, he's about top of the food chain. | ||
| He's a legit journalist. | ||
| But what does he know? | ||
| I mean, if you weren't there, How much of it is disinformation? | ||
| How much can get shuffled down even to you as a journalist that's just straight bullshit? | ||
| They're sophisticated, man. | ||
| I mean, these people that are running, you know, what do you call it, the deep state, the intelligence agencies, you know, there's people that want to disband all of them, like the Vivek Ramaswamy guys. | ||
| I think you need them. | ||
| Because I think the world operates in a very clandestine way. | ||
| Other countries have agencies that are doing the same thing the CIA does. | ||
| If we don't have a better one, that's not good. | ||
| If you don't have an army, we don't need an army, we have flowers. | ||
| You need a fucking army. | ||
| You want to keep peace? | ||
| You need an army. | ||
| You want to keep an eye on all the terrorist organizations in the world that are planning on blowing up America? | ||
| You need a CIA. You fucking need them. | ||
| You need all of them. | ||
| You need the NSA. You need all of them. | ||
| You need those people. | ||
| But in those people, you're going to get cowboys. | ||
| You're going to get people that say, you know, I know how we can fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas. | ||
| Sell drugs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's just move some crack through LA. We can make millions of dollars. | ||
| No one knows. | ||
| So you get Freeway Ricky Ross. | ||
| You bring him in. | ||
| He's making untold amounts of money and he's doing it for the government. | ||
| For the fucking government. | ||
| And that's why he's not getting arrested. | ||
| And he doesn't even know. | ||
| And he doesn't even figure it out until he goes to jail. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Because he doesn't even know how to read until he goes to jail. | ||
| But that is interesting. | ||
| A lot of these actors don't even know that they're involved. | ||
| No! | ||
| It's way less involved... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| ...than we believe it is. | ||
| There's so many layers to it, and it must be so fun to be the dude who's like... | ||
| To be the people who are orchestrating it. | ||
| To be like that. | ||
| I would never want to leave. | ||
| I was the head of the Pentagon. | ||
| What a great job. | ||
| Show up every day, and you're fucking Mercedes-Benz AMG. You hop out with your cuff links. | ||
| Like, let's fucking... | ||
| Let's get you rolling in the world. | ||
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Destroy Central America. | |
| Woo! | ||
| Let's go, baby! | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| You're on Adderall, and you're fucking hopped up, having a good time, getting work done. | ||
| You're a great asset to the company. | ||
| You know, I love this company, and this company loves you. | ||
| And you're fucking all in, buddy, at the expense of your marriage, your family, your friends. | ||
| You're lying to everybody around you because you can't tell them what you're doing. | ||
| Nobody can know because they're fucking signal. | ||
| Bitch, you think that thing's secure? | ||
| No way. | ||
| No way. | ||
|
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They made it. | |
| I bet they did. | ||
| Yeah, because you get to a certain point with success in this country where you have to be integrated into the government. | ||
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100%. | |
| Google's integrated. | ||
| Facebook is integrated. | ||
| They have to be. | ||
| How do you think the fucking FBI was in Twitter? | ||
| Hey, we're getting pressure of our constituents. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| We're getting pressure from this organization that gives us immense amounts of money, and we'd like you to put the fucking caboose on this stuff that'd be a problem. | ||
| Whether it's a laptop story, or whether it's COVID misinformation, whatever it is. | ||
| So how do you maintain your sovereignty? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| How do you do it? | ||
| You. | ||
| Me personally? | ||
| I gotta pee. | ||
| When I come back, let's talk about that. | ||
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Yeah, let's do it. | |
| We're back. | ||
| Okay, how do you maintain your sovereignty? | ||
| You are the most influential person on the planet. | ||
| Government agencies would love to have a hold of you, I imagine. | ||
| How do you make sure that you create distance between you and them so you can put out the content you want to do? | ||
| Haven't even thought about it, but you know that they must try yeah, but I mean like first of all I'm not a valid source of information But I can get you valid sources of information meaning that I'm not an expert in anything other than like martial arts and I can I can give you some information about some things comedy I can talk to you about I think you're being humble, | ||
| but no, but being honest I'm not a legitimate expert in anything But I can bring experts on and I can have honest conversations with them and as a human being That is in this world. | ||
| It is imperative that we have access to all sorts of information, even information that might not be correct. | ||
| You gotta know why the person thinks the way they think, even if I disagree with them. | ||
| Why do you think that? | ||
| How does it work in your head? | ||
| Have you considered this? | ||
| I'll steel man their position. | ||
| I try to find out. | ||
| And if you're silencing people that are from Stanford and Harvard like they did during COVID, actual experts, you're doing a disservice to human beings, including you and your family. | ||
| Because if you're lying or allowing people to lie about medication or about the adverse effects of medication, that is not just you. | ||
| That's everyone that you know that's also going to take that medication upon your Admission or your recommendation? | ||
| You're doing a disservice to everyone, to the whole. | ||
| The person who's telling the truth is doing a service to everyone. | ||
| The whole. | ||
| So how do we parcel out the truth? | ||
| You've got to listen to everybody. | ||
| And then you make that decision. | ||
| It takes time. | ||
| Look how long it took from COVID to figure out what was going on. | ||
| You remember the early videos? | ||
| You will not get it. | ||
| The virus stops with you if you take this vaccine. | ||
| Now it's like you will not die. | ||
| Which you probably weren't going to die. | ||
| You probably won't die. | ||
| You won't get hospitalized. | ||
| Well, how do you know I was going to get hospitalized in the first place? | ||
| Most people didn't get hospitalized. | ||
| Do you know what the percentage of people even in the early days got hospitalized from COVID? What was it? | ||
| 5%. | ||
| Which is a lot for 300 million people. | ||
| That is a lot. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| But still, to not even retract publicly some of the statements made and to vilify the people that were putting out that other information is a very dangerous situation. | ||
| Well, the CDC had to take down all of their... | ||
| Was it the FDA or the CDC? The FDA. The FDA had to take down all of their tweets about COVID in reference to ivermectin. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Like, you're not a horse, y'all. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You remember that? | ||
| Was that the CDC? Find who made that. | ||
| You're not a horse, y'all. | ||
| That was one of them. | ||
| And this is about a medication that had been prescribed billions of times to human beings. | ||
| The FDA. You're not a horse. | ||
| You're not a cow. | ||
| Seriously, y'all. | ||
| You're not a horse. | ||
| You're not a cow. | ||
| Seriously, y'all. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Why you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19 from FDA? That is just propaganda. | ||
| Just full-on propaganda. | ||
| That's like saying penicillin is veterinary medicine. | ||
| Because they do use it in veterinary applications. | ||
| But it's for humans too, you fucking idiot. | ||
| And has it been used for humans? | ||
| Has it saved lives? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Has ivermectin won the fucking Nobel Prize? | ||
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Yes. | |
| So is penicillin. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a human medication that has one of the safest profiles of any medication known. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now they had to take down, pull the article that they had to take all that down. | ||
| So they had to delete 140 social media posts that were disparaging ivermectin. | ||
| I didn't even know this. | ||
| Yeah, they just lost in court. | ||
| Yeah, Pierre Corey has been, like, ringing the bell for the throat. | ||
| FDA agrees to delete your not a horse ivermectin tweet. | ||
| The FBI did not admit to wrongdoing under the terms of the settlement. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| They don't have to admit they were wrong because they were wrong. | ||
| They don't have to admit it. | ||
| We know you're wrong. | ||
| Great. | ||
| You don't have to admit it. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| The agency sent a settlement detailed in the Thursday court filing in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas does not mean it changes position that no data shows ivermectin to be an effective COVID treatment. | ||
| The agency is choosing to resolve this lawsuit rather than continuing to litigate over statements that are between two and nearly four years old. | ||
| Oh, we said those four years ago, guys. | ||
| The FDA said in an email statement, the agency has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19. | ||
| But doctors have always been allowed to use off-label medications, especially when shown to be effective. | ||
| And there's a ton of randomized controlled trials. | ||
| That shows ivermectin to be effective for the treatment of COVID-19. | ||
| Including entire Uttar Pradesh in India. | ||
| That's how they used it. | ||
| They had an incredible result. | ||
| People have used it. | ||
| They used it. | ||
| But when I used it, I had no fucking idea what can of worms I was opening up. | ||
| They made you look like this fucking skull. | ||
| They changed the color of my face. | ||
| CNN was all in, but to their own detriment. | ||
| And now people lost faith in CNN. The COVID thing to them was one of the worst experiences in terms of public trust. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think public trust is an all-time low in general. | ||
| And that's their bed that they made. | ||
| So that's the question is, like, how do you start believing again? | ||
| Because there is an importance in believing and trusting... | ||
| In trusting the systems that we have. | ||
| Like, it is important that we trust the medical field, right? | ||
| I mean, maybe not blindly, and maybe we should have more information, but it is important when we go into the... | ||
| Like I was just telling you, like, with my daughter, I was like, okay, you know, it's time to get vaccines, and I freaked out. | ||
| I genuinely, like, freaked out. | ||
| I told you, I was scared. | ||
| And I didn't do enough research. | ||
| I'm in that room and I'm like, I think I need the weekend. | ||
| And yeah, it's... | ||
| All of my friends that even are doctors who had no questions about the vaccines before, at all, before COVID. They recommended all of them. | ||
| Now, a lot of them are changing their tune. | ||
| So they have more skepticism based on the information that came out about the COVID vaccine or vaccines in general? | ||
| First of all, just the propaganda campaign behind the COVID vaccine. | ||
| So once they saw Total denial of any adverse effects, even though they personally knew people who had strokes, heart attacks, died. | ||
| The died suddenly thing. | ||
| The fact that athletes were dropping like flies. | ||
| The athletes thing was nuts. | ||
| That was scary because these are the people that are in the best shape in the world. | ||
| Soccer players having heart attacks, just dropping dead. | ||
| All of them vaccinated. | ||
| When you're seeing these people just drop dead. | ||
| Reporters on TV just fainting, passing out. | ||
| People I know personally that got the shot, that blacked out. | ||
| Quite a few. | ||
| Two guys I know that have fucking pacemakers now. | ||
| One of them's in his 30s, one of them's in his 40s, as a fucking pacemaker now. | ||
| And you should at least have that information before you make that decision. | ||
| Well, you should know that that information exists, and instead they're trying to hide it, and they're trying to gaslight you about it. | ||
| And then there's the thing about All-cause mortality. | ||
| The increase in all-cause mortality is... | ||
| There's a jump in all-cause mortality after the administration of the vaccines. | ||
| All-cause mortality is people that die from everything. | ||
| Die from heart attack, stroke, cancer. | ||
| All-cause mortality went up in some groups as much as 40%. | ||
| These are the control groups that have taken the vaccine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is just for COVID or... | ||
| Well, people, just in general, more people are dying. | ||
| The percentage of all-cause mortality is, in certain groups, up significantly. | ||
| I think in England, they did a study that said it was up 20% across the board. | ||
| In some groups, like, 18 to 49. In some groups, it was up, like, as high as 40%. | ||
| And that means that 40% more people are dying from cancer, heart attacks, strokes, everything, than were before. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Including people that probably would have died anyway. | ||
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| But 40% more in some groups are dying. | ||
| And there are other variables that exist as well. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I mean, this is a weird time. | ||
| There's lack of medical attention during COVID. People didn't see their doctors. | ||
| Maybe there was things that... | ||
| Alcoholism. | ||
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Of course. | |
| People drank more. | ||
| There's a lot of factors. | ||
| But one of those factors might be this experimental medication. | ||
| And the resistance against that being possible is crazy. | ||
| And it's because people, first of all, they advocated for it, they told you to get it, they probably chastised people and scolded people that didn't get it. | ||
| So now they have this opinion that they have started with, and they're stuck with, and they want to be correct. | ||
| They don't want to back off. | ||
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It takes a very courageous person to say, I'm fucking wrong. | |
| Not only was I wrong, but I probably fucked people over and a lot of people might have been adversely affected. | ||
| That's your career, your life, your identity. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Especially if you're an intellectual. | ||
| That builds your entire identity around being right. | ||
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Yes! | |
| And there's massive pressure from all these institutions that have always been unquestionable in the past, like the FDA or the CDC. It's like a botched surgery. | ||
| If you go for plastic surgery and somebody fucks it up, you're not going back to that doctor. | ||
| So they're terrified. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| They have to go, no, we were right, 100% right, trust me, I want to continue doing this. | ||
| Okay, so the skepticism starts there, and then it starts to bleed into all vaccines. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's where it is with some friends of mine that are physicians. | ||
| And then you read what Robert Kennedy says. | ||
| And Robert Kennedy is the guy that gets put in the kook category. | ||
| And I had to admit that to him when I had him on the podcast. | ||
| I had an opinion of you that was based on propaganda. | ||
| I thought you were this wacky conspiracy theorist guy. | ||
| You're nuts. | ||
| You're the guy that's telling you, like, fucking, you know, take silver iodine. | ||
| You're going to never get sick again. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You put him in this category of holistic medicine guys or whatever. | ||
| It's not even a bad thing. | ||
| But you put him in this naturopath category, kooky category, conspiracy theorist, tinfoil hat. | ||
| And then I read his book. | ||
| I read The Real Anthony Fauci. | ||
| And you read that book and you're like, okay, if this is not true, why isn't he getting sued? | ||
| And it seems like this is the exact same playlist that they ran during the AIDS crisis and that's the Dallas Buyers Club. | ||
| The Dallas Buyers Club is all about that. | ||
| It's all about Anthony Fauci. | ||
| It's all about restricting medication to people that have HIV and forcing them to take AZT which was killing everybody. | ||
| AZT kills people! | ||
| It was a chemotherapy medication they stopped using because it kills people quicker than cancer. | ||
| People that were asymptomatic from HIV were put on AZT and they were dead within six months. | ||
| It's a chemotherapy medication you're supposed to stay on. | ||
| No chemotherapy medication you stay on indefinitely. | ||
| You take them for a course because it's damaging, because it's killing the cancer, but it's also killing you. | ||
| And then it kills the cancer, and you recover, and now the cancer is gone, and that's how chemotherapy works when it works. | ||
| But they just kept them on the whole time. | ||
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But they weren't using it for cancer anymore. | |
| Read the book. | ||
| Not only that, they experimented with vaccines for HIV on foster kids in New York, and a bunch of them died. | ||
| It's all in the book. | ||
| And if it's not true, why didn't he— They sue his ass. | ||
| Why isn't he getting sued? | ||
| Why aren't there articles written pointing out all the things that are absolutely wrong with what he's saying about the HIV crisis? | ||
| So your position is fair skepticism about the vaccines and let's get some more studies and information out there and then we can make our own decisions based on that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What is the—what's the cause of the uptick in chronic illness, autism, all these different things? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Are there environmental factors? | ||
| Is it contamination? | ||
| Is it food? | ||
| Is it pollution? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| And could it be that too? | ||
| Could it be these vaccines? | ||
| Is it possible that these people that tell these stories about having perfectly healthy children and then them getting vaccinated and then all of a sudden the kid going non-responsive? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That seems like it's possible that there's a correlation there. | ||
| If there's a cause, and then there's an effect. | ||
| If there's an action, and then there's an effect. | ||
| Let's see if there's a connection here. | ||
| If there's a thing that you do, and all these parents, you could say a bunch of them, it was just... | ||
| Coincidental that the kids started showing it after the medication was administered. | ||
| And maybe that's true. | ||
| Maybe that's true. | ||
| But how do we know if that's not even considered? | ||
| I think there's a timing thing too. | ||
| If it's a taboo subject. | ||
| Isn't there like a timing thing where like kids don't show those symptoms until one and that is when you vaccinate them or something. | ||
| So there are some... | ||
| There's correlations. | ||
| Correlational issues here. | ||
| Doesn't mean causation. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But let's study it. | ||
| Let's fucking look at it. | ||
| But the fact that you can't ever even consider that injecting kids with chemicals, including mercury and aluminum, that you're doing this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That this might have a negative effect on some kids? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that maybe the corresponding uptick in these chronic illnesses and allergies and diseases and autism, maybe? | ||
| Maybe? | ||
| What was the allergy connection again? | ||
| Aluminum. | ||
| That's right, because every one of the vaccines has a little aluminum in it. | ||
| Well, the way it is, you have an inert form of the virus, right? | ||
| And then you have this irritant. | ||
| You have this thing that fucks with your body, and your body goes, what is this? | ||
| The aluminum's in there. | ||
| Oh, there's a virus in here, a dead virus. | ||
| I'll create the antibodies. | ||
| And it works. | ||
| It does work. | ||
| But does it also have negative effects? | ||
| And is it a volume thing? | ||
| Is it the amount of vaccines you give a kid all together? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're trying to give your kid, like, HPV vaccine right from birth. | ||
| Like, when do they start giving them hepatitis B? 12 hours in. | ||
| That's when birth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 12 hours in, they came into the room and they're like, hepatitis B. Yo! | ||
| And I literally, and I was like, what is it? | ||
| Because I didn't know what it was. | ||
| And they were like, it's a disease that could kill your kid. | ||
| And I was like, well, we should probably give it to her. | ||
| And then I'm like, how do you even get it? | ||
| And they're like, it's a sexually transmitted disease. | ||
| And I was like, hold on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that we could pump the brakes a little bit. | ||
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12 hours old? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| We got time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Okay, so I understand. | ||
| So now there's a skepticism. | ||
| But then, right now, just having this conversation, even talking about it the way we've talked about it so carefully, you'll be labeled an anti-vaxxer. | ||
| Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan float around anti-vax conspiracy theories. | ||
| Well, we're not conspirizing right now, right? | ||
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Nope. | |
| We're just literally saying, maybe it's okay to do the research without shame. | ||
| Well, how is it not possible to talk about it without being labeled a kook? | ||
| If this is a thing, if you're injecting kids with chemicals, and we know that medications have adverse effects, even simple medications. | ||
| Some people have horrible effects from all kinds of stuff. | ||
| There's people that can't take... | ||
| Like, Aaron Rodgers couldn't take... | ||
| The mRNA vaccines because there's an ingredient in them that he's deathly allergic to. | ||
| So an interesting thing is I asked the doctor and she was actually great. | ||
| The doctor was really great. | ||
| Her mom was kind of anti-vaccine. | ||
| She's like, so I understand it. | ||
| There's no pressure. | ||
| I was telling you this. | ||
| And then she said this was interesting. | ||
| I was like, what about if we... | ||
| Scheduled them out. | ||
| Delayed them, I think is what they say. | ||
| And so you have less viral load at one time. | ||
| She said something interesting. | ||
| She goes, listen, every vaccine has a little bit of preservative in it, right? | ||
| You need to have a little bit in order to keep that inert disease alive or whatever. | ||
| She goes, so the question you have to ask now is, okay, maybe... | ||
| The preservative isn't good to put in your kid, and now you're putting more of it in because you're doing more vaccines over a longer period of time. | ||
| So this is a variable I didn't even fucking think of. | ||
| I'm trying to lower the viral load that my eight-week-old baby has inside her, but now I'm increasing the preservative load that the baby has, and I don't know the effects of that. | ||
| And that's why I had to walk out. | ||
| And the thing is, the medical institutions have been captured by pharmaceutical drug companies. | ||
| They're captured. | ||
| They're captured by the agencies. | ||
| I mean, it's not as simple as a doctor is basing it all on his education and his understanding of this particular situation and the objective science of all of it. | ||
| No, there's a narrative. | ||
| There's a narrative that gets distributed. | ||
| And that was the narrative during COVID. You must get vaccinated. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They were telling people to get vaccinated right after they got over COVID. It doesn't even make sense. | ||
| It's completely unscientific. | ||
| And they make it restrictive. | ||
| For example, my wife, in order for her to go to school, had to get the booster. | ||
| She was getting her MBA, and she had to. | ||
| And the same thing with kids. | ||
| If you want to put your kid in a school, they have to have them all. | ||
| If you want to put it in a daycare, they have to. | ||
| If you want to travel, if you want to fly, certain jobs. | ||
| So you start to feel the pressure, and the outside pressure makes you go, okay, I'm being forced into this decision. | ||
| I don't really have my freedom. | ||
| You say I have my freedom, but I want my kid to get educated. | ||
| I want my kid to be able to go see their grandparents. | ||
| I want my kid to do these things. | ||
| And, yeah, you do feel a social pressure. | ||
| You don't want to be labeled a fucking anti-vax weirdo. | ||
| But at the same time, it was hard as hell for my wife and I to get pregnant, so I'm really protective over this innocent little baby, and I don't want to be responsible for giving him something that could fuck him up. | ||
| I don't know how I live with myself. | ||
| Do you remember when Jenny McCarthy was saying that vaccine caused her son to be autistic, and she was just attacked merciless? | ||
| I don't remember, but... | ||
| Essentially, it was like kind of the end of her ever being taken seriously. | ||
| It was kind of the end of her career. | ||
| Jenny McCarthy was huge. | ||
| MTV days, I remember. | ||
| MTV days, she had her own sitcom. | ||
| Jenny McCarthy was doing a lot of different things, and you don't hear about her at all anymore. | ||
| I think Robert De Niro even tried to... | ||
| She had a TV show recently? | ||
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She's been on a show. | |
| What is it? | ||
| The Masked Singer or whatever. | ||
| She's a judge on that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So she's back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For a long time, she was like persona non grata. | ||
| What is The Masked Singer? | ||
| It's a game show. | ||
| I'm so ignorant. | ||
| I don't even know that show's still on the air. | ||
| Anyway, it's one of these things where you're like... | ||
| She's one of the judges? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So she's okay. | ||
| But if the conversation comes up with vaccines, people roll their eyes. | ||
| Like, oh, Jenny McCarthy. | ||
| She's anti-science. | ||
| But what's the way to talk about it and have the conversation? | ||
| We're not anti-vaccine movement. | ||
| We're pro-safe vaccine. | ||
| Beautiful woman, huh? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| 2015. Well, damn, bro. | ||
| She could still be beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, Jamie's rude. | ||
| She's an old bitch now. | ||
| No, it's just, I don't know, it's one of those things where, like... | ||
| You're fucking... | ||
| You're scared because you want to protect this thing that you really care about and love both ways. | ||
| You don't want them to get a disease and get sick that you could have avoided while at the same time you don't want to put something in them that could have a negative effect. | ||
| So you're just in this stalemate. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And you don't know who to trust and what to believe. | ||
| And that's the problem with information right now. | ||
| I don't think we know what to believe about anything. | ||
| It's like even the fucking... | ||
| The Trans Visibility Day thing, like every headline was Biden declares Easter Trans Visibility Day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I read it and I was like, there is no way. | ||
| Like, yeah, maybe there's a bunch of lefties there, the liberal leaning, but there's no way that he would declare Easter this way. | ||
| And I looked into it. | ||
| Trans Visibility Day started like 15 years ago. | ||
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Right. | |
| Three years ago, they declared it. | ||
| And then Easter obviously changes every year the date. | ||
| It doesn't change the day. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then it ends up on the Sunday. | ||
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Right. | |
| But the headline is... | ||
| Biden declares Easter Trans Visibility Day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Once I read that and I know it's fake, now every headline is fake to me. | ||
| And I think now I'm in this like, maybe we're all in this whirlpool. | ||
| They're all using it because there's money to be made out of it. | ||
| That click is valuable. | ||
| And they will knowingly, like we were talking about that woman earlier with the Huberman thing, there is money to be made out of that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And as long as there's money to be made from it, they'll go for it. | ||
| And they'll remove information that is incredibly important to the truth of the story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know how you solve that. | ||
| But that thing, the Biden thing is kind of crazy because, you know, on this day of our Lord, like they make this declaration and they know that it's going to happen on Easter Sunday. | ||
| They know this year or maybe last year, but when they started, they're not like, how are we going to take away Easter from... | ||
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Right. | |
| It's like Thanksgiving. | ||
| It always happens on a Thursday. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Easter Sunday is always a Sunday and it could vary from April to March. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, like it could be March 31st or it could be April 23rd. | ||
| Like it's really wide. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The range that Easter Sunday falls on. | ||
| And they saw it coming this year and they're probably like, fuck. | ||
| If we move it, we hate the trans. | ||
| If we don't move it, we hate the Christians. | ||
| I think they saw it as an opportunity to like... | ||
| In an election cycle, Joe? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It was absurd. | ||
| The loons, the loons on the left, they're all in with that stuff. | ||
| Joe doesn't know what a trans is. | ||
| Well, he knows one of them got fired for stealing bags. | ||
| He thinks that's a woman. | ||
| And the other one pulled their tits out. | ||
| He's 80 years old. | ||
| If you went to him and you were like, that's actually a man, he would go, there's no fucking way. | ||
| Show it to me. | ||
| Bro, that administration is all in on that stuff in such a hardcore way that he got interviewed by Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| Yeah, and he thought that was a woman. | ||
| And I've been a girl for 350 days. | ||
| He's like, oh, God bless you. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| Did you ever see that interview? | ||
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No. | |
| Oh, it's wild. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| But like, I think none of us really believe he's making the decisions, right? | ||
| He's just like a puppet for the... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's just there to get lambasted when all these things happen. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then he forgets about it immediately afterwards. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't know. | ||
| He's the perfect guy to blame for things. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's why he's there. | ||
| That's why you get the 80-year-old dude. | ||
| But the idea that they're going to keep running him is just bananas. | ||
| You're going to keep him in there? | ||
| I can't believe that's real, but as time goes on, I'm starting to think they might actually keep running him. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know why they would switch him out. | ||
| They're not in a position they can switch him out for anybody. | ||
| Who steps in? | ||
| Well, he would have to... | ||
| Not Kamala. | ||
| No, not Kamala. | ||
| But he would have to kick the bucket. | ||
| And then they just slide Newsome in or somebody? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| You think that's what they're hoping for secretly? | ||
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May. | |
| May. | ||
| I think he's got until May. | ||
| No way! | ||
| I feel like right around May they're gonna pull him. | ||
| No way! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Newsome comes in. | ||
| I think he just has health problems, and then the country understands, and Newsom is going to have his support fully, and Kamala is going to be like, I don't even want to be president. | ||
| I'm cool with being vice president. | ||
| So Newsom runs with Kamala? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| I don't think they can pull Kamala. | ||
| I think as long as they keep her quiet, she's not, she's already, whatever liability sure is, she's so quiet. | ||
| You know who else has been quiet? | ||
| AOC. They get them to fall in line, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were loud, dancing, doing TikToks, and then they go, hey, hey, why don't you shut the fuck up over there, pits? | ||
| And then they shut up. | ||
| Also, don't you want to be president someday, Alexandra? | ||
| They carry it. | ||
| They hang the fucking carrot. | ||
| And she probably could. | ||
| She could probably pull it off. | ||
| So there's a lot of factors. | ||
| And you're basically auditioning to be the spokesperson for the machine. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it worked for Biden. | ||
| He's the perfect example. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| If you're part of the machine, you look at Biden's career, and you're like, oh, it does work out. | ||
| If I just play by the rules of the machine, they'll put me in position one day, and I'll have the power. | ||
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You don't even have to be good. | |
| You don't. | ||
| You have to be there. | ||
| Especially if you have a bad guy. | ||
| Well, that's one of the reasons why Hillary wanted Trump to run. | ||
| She's like, I'll beat that guy. | ||
| That guy's an idiot. | ||
| I can't beat somebody that's competent. | ||
| Yeah, and actually looks like a leader. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Listen to this fucking maniac from The Apprentice. | ||
| And what does she find out? | ||
| Yeah, I want to run him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, whoops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whoopsies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now he's more popular than ever. | ||
| I think it's easy for him, actually, this time around. | ||
| I don't know if it's real. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
| Let's find out if they can rig it. | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
| Oh, yeah, they'll do everything they can. | ||
| If the 2020 elections weren't rigged, let's say they weren't. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You don't think there's something that can be done to move things one way or the other? | ||
| There's certainly the manipulation of media. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Now, you want to talk about election interference. | ||
| So forget about mail-in ballots. | ||
| Forget about all that stuff. | ||
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| Access to information will affect elections. | ||
| For example? | ||
| When the government steps in and tells Twitter to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story. | ||
| That laptop story, let's say they went all in, they distributed it to all the media, and then Fox News starts telling you all the evidence it shows that Biden was getting kickbacks and he's the big guy and 10% and all this money that went from billions of, millions of dollars and Burisma and all these. | ||
| Where's that money gone? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What were the contracts? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| How does he have this job teaching for a million dollars a year where he doesn't even show up? | ||
| What is all of this stuff? | ||
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That's the game. | |
| What is this? | ||
| That's the game. | ||
| And if that got into fence sitters, people are like, I don't know, Trump's kind of gross, but Biden's old, but I'm still going to vote for Biden because Trump's a bad guy. | ||
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Then you sway. | |
| Oh my God, Biden's a bad guy. | ||
| Trump might be the answer. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We were fine while he was in office. | ||
| Let's run with him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's basically election interference, because you're withholding information that would be detrimental to the person that you want to win. | ||
| It's absolutely election interference. | ||
| So anybody says there's no election interference. | ||
| That is election interference. | ||
| And then you have Google search results, which Robert Epstein, in his research, has shown that Google search results... | ||
| What a tough name to have. | ||
| Google search results have shown that you can manipulate and with his research you can manipulate the search results through the algorithm and that will like highlight negative stories about the people that you want to be negative or positive stories about the people you want to be positive and it can have an overall effect on how people vote because most people are surface information gatherers they read headlines like uh-huh got it yeah and then they go with it yeah and the headline might be horseshit you might get into the article I mean, | ||
| we've done that so many times. | ||
| But wait a minute. | ||
| This specifically says that that's not true. | ||
| So what are they saying in the article? | ||
| Complaints of. | ||
| Oh, it's a complaint of. | ||
| But then you get into it, you go, oh, but it's not real. | ||
| Yeah, trans visibility. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's so many things like that that can just affect public opinion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's so many people that will just say things publicly and they think that this is a fact. | ||
| How many people have you seen got caught in that women only make 70 cents to a man's dollar? | ||
| How many people have you ever seen get caught in that thing? | ||
| How come women should be paid the same that men are paid? | ||
| No, argue in the streets. | ||
| But they don't even understand what the argument is. | ||
| The argument is men pick different jobs, they work longer hours, they don't take maternity leave. | ||
| Overall, they make more money. | ||
| This is why. | ||
| They take jobs that are more dangerous. | ||
| They take jobs that are higher risk. | ||
| It also includes the most wealthy people, which are men. | ||
| So that's going to skew it in a dramatic fashion. | ||
| Dramatic, yeah. | ||
| The top billionaires, they're all men except for chicks that got divorced. | ||
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That is the best way to get rich. | |
| If you want to be a female billionaire, chop it in half. | ||
| But the thing is, female billionaires don't like that label. | ||
| They got it, so they become philanthropists. | ||
| Oh, that's why Bezos' wife is giving it up. | ||
| She's a philanthropist. | ||
| Billionaire philanthropist, Mackenzie Bezos. | ||
| Where'd she get that money? | ||
| Just being awesome. | ||
| Billionaire? | ||
| Just being amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, she was married to a psycho. | ||
| The psycho made all the money, and now she's distributing it to left-wing causes, and all the right-wing guys are complaining. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Elon's mad. | ||
| Elon was saying something about her distributing these rich divorcees, distributing to the downfall of democracy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's been going in. | ||
| He goes in, man. | ||
| It's really interesting to see how political he's gotten and that immediately upon being, because he was the darling of the left and the right. | ||
| Oh yeah, big time the left. | ||
| But the left obviously for the cars, but the right because he's a successful businessman. | ||
| And the second he takes a position politically, he is chastised, shamed, ridiculed. | ||
| And even before that, think about it, everybody was invested in Tesla because the stock was going crazy. | ||
| So not only are you the darling, you're making me money. | ||
| I want you to be great. | ||
| Once you're making people money, they don't want to write bad shit about you. | ||
| Especially if they've got a million dollars invested in Tesla. | ||
| I'm not going to ridicule this guy and watch half of my money go away. | ||
| And the second he opened his mouth about politics, And the thing is, he snaps back at people. | ||
| He goes. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| He goes. | ||
| Bro, he dunks on people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is hilarious. | ||
| But I'm also just like, you know, don't you got some science to do? | ||
| Yeah, how are you doing this? | ||
| I don't understand how he does any of it. | ||
| AI, dude. | ||
| He created another Elon. | ||
| Maybe he is. | ||
| Maybe he's AI. But what he's done with Twitter or X... It's really interesting. | ||
| I call it Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard for me to change. | ||
| Because it is an X that you made, or is it a tweet? | ||
| Did you tweet something? | ||
| It's a tweet. | ||
| I tweeted it. | ||
| Yeah, it's Twitter. | ||
| It's kind of funny, though, because it is X. Yeah, but it's Twitter. | ||
| But it's Twitter. | ||
| But like the idea that he is going to uphold this soapbox for free speech despite having some awful things said, the greater outcome will be hopefully a civil society where ideas can permeate freely. | ||
| He may have very well saved humanity. | ||
| Humanity in some way, because by providing this one platform where people can actually speak their mind, up to a point, you know, I mean, there's still some rules. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But up to a point, you get away with a lot of shit. | ||
| I see so much racist shit on Twitter now that I never saw before, like openly racist. | ||
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| Openly racist. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, and then you see people chiming in that agree with it, and it's like, wow. | ||
| And then people chime in that disagree. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And those voices are all heard, and there's a place for all of them. | ||
| Yeah, and you just have to know that people do think certain ways. | ||
| You know, even if you don't like it, you have to know that people do think certain ways, and the answer to bad speech is not silencing speech. | ||
| It's better speech. | ||
| Better speech. | ||
| It's more compelling. | ||
| But you need to have a place where it can exist in order for there to be speech to even be consumed. | ||
| Right, and there was no place before he took over Twitter. | ||
| And that's the thing that the pendulum shift that we're talking about, where it's like, You have these pieces that came out that we thought were news. | ||
| Now we see them as hit pieces. | ||
| And I think kids that are growing up with all this information and disinformation and misinformation and all this shit, I think that for us it's a little bit more difficult, but for them they will have the ability to discern and understand that they have to do a little bit more research. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's we get caught victim of it like like old women when they get a phone call from some Nigerian prince and they need That's us with news now and we're like wait a minute fake things can exist, right? | ||
| But I think the kids are gonna grow up going. | ||
| Oh, yeah, everything's fake You just got to do some more research and figure it out. | ||
| Yeah, I hope that's my hope well enough kids listen to podcasts Which is what really bothers people that they're getting their information from people like us well, they They have to. | ||
| People like us don't have to lie. | ||
| We have zero incentive to lie. | ||
| And when we're talking about these things, like, this is what I know. | ||
| These are the facts. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| You're being fucked. | ||
| You're being lied to. | ||
| And it's not like there's not a motivation. | ||
| Look at the amount of money they're making by fucking you. | ||
| I mean, it's an insane sum of money that's involved in a lot of these decisions. | ||
| And these decisions roll on whether or not we complain or not. | ||
| But at least it kind of puts things in check. | ||
| Maybe that's the solution. | ||
| Just show how much money people are making. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Show how much money CNN makes from the pharmaceutical industry. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| And then you will look at every story about pharmaceuticals through that lens. | ||
| Brought to you by Pfizer. | ||
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That's it. | |
| Anderson Cooper. | ||
| They do it, like, right in your face. | ||
| In your face. | ||
| Brought to you by Pfizer. | ||
| The vaccines are perfect. | ||
| Let's go to a commercial. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Brought to you by Pfizer. | ||
| You will not get this virus. | ||
| You will not transmit this virus. | ||
| The virus stops with you. | ||
| And no one complains. | ||
| Now, do you think that the people that are disseminating the information are aware of the bullshit or they are the useful idiots? | ||
| I think at a certain point in time, they must be aware. | ||
| And if they're aware, they're evil. | ||
| They're trapped. | ||
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They're trapped. | |
| Because I think initially, most people did think that the vaccines were going to work. | ||
| And it doesn't have to be vaccines. | ||
| It can be anything. | ||
| But once you're pushing out information that you know to be false, and you're potentially hurting people, it doesn't have to be vaccines. | ||
| It can be anything. | ||
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Right. | |
| Now you're evil. | ||
| That's evil. | ||
| That's evil. | ||
| I don't fault someone who's maybe ignorant or a useful idiot or really passionate about a thing. | ||
| Not if you're motivated by the agenda of your sponsors. | ||
| If you know that you have to have a certain opinion on the platform, and that opinion is based on the people who are paying to sponsor the show, you are aware. | ||
| But that's also supported by these experts. | ||
| But like you know, we can find experts for anything. | ||
| Since you're not an expert, and you're just a talking head on CNN, your job is to say, but do you understand that the CDC has disagreed? | ||
| The FDA has said this is not approved. | ||
| The NIH has shown to various studies this is not correct. | ||
| And you can say that, and you'd be accurate. | ||
| You would be accurate as the news person on CNN that's telling a lie. | ||
| You have your justification so you can go home and sleep at night? | ||
| A lot of them don't even do any digging. | ||
| They're there to do their job. | ||
| They read the teleprompter. | ||
| They're fucking gambling on sports betting or something. | ||
| Who knows what the fuck they're doing with their spare time. | ||
| But we're just assuming these people are truth-tellers. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| We're assuming they're even journalists. | ||
| They're not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Some of them are, but most of them are just talking heads. | ||
| Just pretty people that are good at reading. | ||
| That's the transition that we're going through right now, is just because someone is giving us information on a news platform with a ticker does not mean that they know anything that they're talking about. | ||
| It doesn't mean that it's necessarily true. | ||
| Not only that, we are sure they are highly motivated by money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Highly motivated. | ||
| Sponsored by money, put in position by money. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The commercials, it's all money, money, money, money, money, money, making that money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And no one's listening. | ||
| That's what's crazy. | ||
| But isn't that a beautiful thing? | ||
| It is a beautiful thing. | ||
| That means the people know and the people will seek out the information that they deem truthful. | ||
| Yes, there's going to be some wackos that seek out the most extreme versions. | ||
| Yes, that's us sometimes because it's really fun. | ||
| I want to indulge in all the conspiracies. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| But at the end of the day, when I have to make a real decision... | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm going to seek out the information. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm going to read as many things as possible. | ||
| If it's my life on the line, or my kid's life on the line, or my friend's life on the line, I'm going to actually go out there and figure it out. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| And the thing is, if it's not for a few brave people that stand up and tell you the truth, how do you... | ||
| Okay, if there's no Peter McCullough, if there's no Robert Malone, if there's no RFK Jr... | ||
| If there's no Pierre Corey. | ||
| If there's none of these people that stand up and lose like a sizable portion of their income, their careers get destroyed, their reputations get dragged through the mud, hit pieces get written about them. | ||
| If it wasn't for these people that stand up and do that. | ||
| And I never would have imagined in my wildest dreams that I would get sucked into that. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I never thought that I would get sucked into something like that where people would be lying about me. | ||
| But when you watch it, like on CNN, just flat out lying. | ||
| But it's wild. | ||
| And the dumbest lie. | ||
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Like, bitch, do you think I'm taking horse medicine? | |
| You don't think I know really good doctors that are telling me what to take? | ||
| How about the fact that I got better quick? | ||
| That doesn't freak you out at all? | ||
| I got better real quick. | ||
| Oh, you were so happy, I bet, when that shit kicked. | ||
| What was it, 48 hours? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Like three days later, after I was sick, I made that video. | ||
| And I was fine. | ||
| Three days after that, I did 10 rounds on the bag. | ||
| Six days in, I did 10 rounds on the bag. | ||
| I'm like, let's see how I feel. | ||
| I worked out five days in. | ||
| I felt pretty good. | ||
| I said, all right, tomorrow, let's get after it. | ||
| And I did 10 fucking rounds on the bag. | ||
| Full clip. | ||
| No problems. | ||
| No problems. | ||
| No lack of energy. | ||
| I felt 100% six days later. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But I'm on top of my fucking health all day long, all year round. | ||
| I'm always in shape. | ||
| I always take vitamins. | ||
| I'm always eating well. | ||
| I sleep good. | ||
| I do a lot of things. | ||
| You can't say that everyone has to adhere to the rules of this thing when you're lying about the results, you're lying about the studies, you're... | ||
| You're influencing all these talking heads to say these things that turn out to not even be remotely true. | ||
| Not only that, there's no studies behind it. | ||
| They had to admit when they were speaking in front of whatever it was in the UK that they never even tested these drugs for transmission. | ||
| They just tested them to see if they created the antibodies. | ||
| And then all that other stuff they said was bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, that's the tricky thing about making rules for 300 million people, is that 300 million people are not the same. | ||
| The way that you take care of your body is completely different than some asshole that's a consultant, he's sitting at his fucking desk all day, he weighs 300 pounds. | ||
| And that rules, it's like an SAT. We have to find a way to judge intellect so that kids can go to school or not. | ||
| There's some kid who flunked the SATs who's a fucking genius, and he's going to go out there and make money. | ||
| He's just bored with these things and he doesn't pay any attention. | ||
| It's what you focus on. | ||
| You could be a very smart person who doesn't study and you take classes and you fucking bomb in your classes. | ||
| You suck. | ||
| Because you don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| But if you ask that dude how to fucking fix a turbocharger, that dude knows how to re-engineer things. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| It's in the valves. | ||
| We have to fix the valves. | ||
| There's people that are genius at things that they're interested in. | ||
| But if you keep them in a classroom and they're bored of shit and feed them fucking dull-ass teachers that spoon-feed them shit that they're never gonna use, they're not gonna thrive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, how do you create systems so that these people can thrive? | ||
| Well, you gotta have freedom. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| You know, freedom is one of the massive factors in this country's ability to churn out innovators. | ||
| There's so much freedom to do things, freedom to try things. | ||
| I love that it's part of the identity, that we feel entitled to it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you restrict it, I'm furious. | ||
| And other people are furious. | ||
| But that's not every country where they feel entitled to their freedom. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, that's a big thing about Texas. | ||
| Texas, it's built into the fiber of the human beings that established this place. | ||
| But that's why you need Texas. | ||
| You need Florida. | ||
| I don't care if you don't like it. | ||
| You need somebody pulling us in that direction because it's going to take LA or it's going to take New York. | ||
| It's going to pull them a little bit that way. | ||
| When we see people partying, having fun during fucking Corona in Texas and in Florida, we're like, well, maybe we can go out to eat. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if everybody's locked in. | ||
| And there's nobody else out there. | ||
| Everyone's going to die. | ||
| I remember when Governor Abbott opened up things. | ||
| And they were like, what are you doing? | ||
| You're going to kill everyone. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope, it didn't. | ||
| Did you talk to him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And did you ask him if he was ever scared of that decision? | ||
| Because if that decision backfires, that's his... | ||
| He did it based on science. | ||
| He did it based on what we know about the disease. | ||
| The same thing that Florida said, protect the vulnerable. | ||
| Yeah, if you are an old person with a severely compromised immune system, you should get vaccinated, you should be protected, you should probably isolate. | ||
| It's just a brave decision. | ||
| There's a lot weighing on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of people here that wanted that decision, though, too, especially because he's a Republican. | ||
| You know, most of the Republicans wanted the businesses back open. | ||
| Most of the people are like, hey, you're taking away people's ability to make decisions, and you're giving the government an unprecedented power that it never had before. | ||
| The government, the mayor's never had the ability to shut down all the restaurants. | ||
| What? | ||
| And when they did that in LA, they had no effect whatsoever on their check. | ||
| Their paycheck remained the same. | ||
| Same, no matter what, yeah. | ||
| I think, you know, you want to make fucking cities great? | ||
| Have it so that the mayor's salary is based on how well the city does. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Now steel man the opposition argument to that. | ||
| Well, the government would co-opt it, and then these financial institutions would co-opt it, and they would figure out a way to build businesses up unethically. | ||
| And the best way to make more money is to pay people less, so you would have lower income wages, lower minimum wages. | ||
| That's where it gets tricky. | ||
| It's like, you go through this in New York, especially when you have an apartment or something like that, and you've got to go through all this bureaucracy when you're renovating your apartment. | ||
| That being said, what I do to my apartment Affects the person downstairs, upstairs, to the left, to the right. | ||
| So we have way more rules because we need them. | ||
| Because what I do fucks everybody else's life potentially. | ||
| You can drill holes in the wall and get a leaky fucking pipe. | ||
| People try to do it. | ||
| If they know you've got a drop ceiling, they're trying to drop pipes into your fucking ceiling. | ||
| You don't even see it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| This is... | ||
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Yes. | |
| All the fucking time. | ||
| So they're like, oh, can I get access to your place and probe a wall to see something? | ||
| And they'll drop a fucking... | ||
| All their plumbing so they don't have to raise their floor. | ||
| There's things that they'll take advantage of their neighbor. | ||
| And because of that, you've got to create all these extra rules and it's a real fuck to go through. | ||
| Now, when you have three acres of land in... | ||
| You know, Texas, you can build a barn without people really looking at it that much because you're not affecting your neighbor. | ||
| So I do get why in certain places you need a little bit more of a bureaucracy because people will take advantage of each other. | ||
| So that does make sense. | ||
| You can't have all the same rules for all the same places. | ||
| It's not going to work. | ||
| Yeah, it's not gonna work. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's one of the cool things about this country. | ||
| It's basically like a bunch of countries. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| It's like Europe. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| France is different than Germany, but they're all just smooshed up next to each other. | ||
| But when they were putting it together, they built it with that idea. | ||
| They're like, hey, listen, if I'm up in Maine, it takes me on horseback four months to get to fucking Washington, D.C. Why should your rules affect my rules? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let me do my thing. | ||
| You do your thing. | ||
| We'll agree on ten fucking rules and then let's have some fun. | ||
| States rights. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it makes sense. | ||
| It does make sense. | ||
| It makes sense that you gravitate towards the places that fit with your liking, which is why psychopaths moved to Portland. | ||
| For real! | ||
| One thing, I imagine being born there, but willingly going. | ||
| Yeah, that's my people. | ||
| Yeah, that's a little bit. | ||
| You have 15 face piercings and you're on your way. | ||
| Raining every day. | ||
| Yeah, I want to be depressed. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| The Oregon Trail, what idiots. | ||
| I'm looking forward to camping. | ||
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Imagine going across the whole country in fucking one of those little... | |
| Covered wagons. | ||
| Covered wagons and then getting to Portland and you're like, for this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rains every day. | ||
| It's beautiful though. | ||
| It's gorgeous green. | ||
| Portland's gorgeous. | ||
| And parts of Oregon are fantastic. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, where Cam lives. | ||
| Cam lives out in like Springfield, that area. | ||
| Oh, Cameron Haines. | ||
| Eugene. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Beautiful out there. | ||
| That's the thing about Oregon, too. | ||
| It's like, you have Portland, but everything else is red. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just like, but Portland just dominates the politics. | ||
| But that's usually how it is. | ||
| It's the high population centers. | ||
| Yeah, it's all ranchers and farmers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they're like, what the fuck? | ||
| And those cities, like the liberal cities that are in the very conservative states, are a reaction to how conservative the state is. | ||
| So they're like the most liberal. | ||
| Well, they're generally around education institutions. | ||
| Oh, so they're built around the universities, the ideas from the universities. | ||
| Eugene's very liberal. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Because it's around the universities there. | ||
| Universities affect the, like, Boulder. | ||
| Boulder, Colorado, perfect one. | ||
| University of Boulder's right there. | ||
| It's fucking at every University of Colorado. | ||
| Everybody's liberal. | ||
| They're all hippies up there. | ||
| Because it's all, like, the city itself sort of, like, revolves around the education institutions and the vibe. | ||
| So the culture of the education institution dictates the culture of the city. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Yeah, that's why New York, I think, is so unique, because everybody thinks that we're this super liberal city, and it's a money city. | ||
| Money wins in New York. | ||
| In the Manhattan, yeah. | ||
| A lot of it's the financial business. | ||
| But if you go to Long Island, that's very red. | ||
| I think even Manhattan is red. | ||
| We're open when it comes to gay stuff, right? | ||
| We love our gays. | ||
| They create great cultural institutions within the city. | ||
| You like going to Broadway. | ||
| You like seeing musical theater. | ||
| They offer a lot. | ||
| You like the art. | ||
| You're coming to New York for art. | ||
| They offer so much. | ||
| So we're like, yeah, those guys are dope. | ||
| Kick it. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| A lot of gay chefs. | ||
| A lot of gay artists. | ||
| Gays kill it in New York. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they create a lot for us. | ||
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Singers. | |
| And we really appreciate it. | ||
| And it's amazing. | ||
| But when it comes to actual, like, the rules, New York is kind of conservative. | ||
| Like, we've had conservative mayors. | ||
| Like, Bloomberg wasn't some fucking, like, bleeding heart liberal. | ||
| He's a money dude. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He just came in. | ||
| He was like, yo, if we can't pay for it, I'll pay for it. | ||
| You pay me back. | ||
| And we're like, I like this guy. | ||
| This is fucking Bruce Wayne. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know? | ||
| So, yeah, I think the perception of New York is a little weird. | ||
| How come that guy didn't go any further in politics? | ||
| No charisma. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Yeah, New Yorkers, we don't care about charisma with the mayors, really. | ||
| We don't even know who our politicians are. | ||
| Like, I just found out we have a female governor. | ||
| I had no fucking clue who the governor is. | ||
| LA's out to lunch. | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| But New Yorkers, we don't care. | ||
| The mayor of New York City is the governor of the state. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That's the leader. | ||
| You're saying what's going on here, and that's all that matters. | ||
| That's the only thing we really think about is the city. | ||
| What is it like there now with the immigrants? | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| New York is so diverse, you can't tell immigrants are there. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| Right. | ||
| If there's other cities that are really homogenous, they're all white, and then all of a sudden a bunch of not-white people come, you're like, oh my god, we got immigrants everywhere. | ||
| But for a New Yorker to be like, I think we got some immigrants here, it's impossible. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everybody's an immigrant. | ||
| Everybody's brown. | ||
| Everybody's black. | ||
| Everybody's Asian. | ||
| Like, there's all these different ones. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The tricky thing with, you're talking about the migrant crisis, is that they're taking advantage of a, New York is like the biggest state in the country. | ||
| It's like, I think maybe the only big city that has a right to shelter. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's the only one of this size that has a right to shelter. | ||
| And it used to be for homeless people. | ||
| It's only for homeless people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're taking advantage of a system that's built for homeless people, which is pretty fucking good if you ask me, when you have the financial hub of the world, you want people sleeping on the streets, you go, no, let's put some money so they can go inside. | ||
| And homeless people are supposed to basically enter in and out of homelessness. | ||
| The idea is, give them some shelter, maybe they can get back out on their feet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The migrants hear about this and they're like, what, free housing? | ||
| Let's get up there. | ||
| So they're taking advantage of a system that is not for them. | ||
| And I think when New Yorkers have kind of learned that, they're like, ooh, there's something unethical about this. | ||
| And I think that's where a lot of the pushback is happening. | ||
| But in terms of visually being able to see it, it's not something that New Yorkers notice. | ||
| We just can't. | ||
| The news makes it seem like it is. | ||
| We see the article, oh, this guy beats up the police or something like that. | ||
| But in terms of when you're walking down the street, it is not detectable. | ||
| So unless you're near one of these places like the Roosevelt Hotel that they've converted... | ||
| The Roosevelt is like the one that's right across the street from Madison Square Garden. | ||
| You know the hotel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I couldn't believe they converted the whole thing. | ||
| It's an iconic hotel. | ||
| It was in that fucking Jennifer Lopez movie. | ||
| Oh yeah, she worked there. | ||
| When she's the maid? | ||
| When she's the maid, yeah. | ||
| But this is like a hotel we all know. | ||
| We see it after every Knicks game. | ||
| It's like you can't fathom that the whole hotel? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And also that system that was set up for the homeless was already operating at capacity. | ||
| And then you increase the amount of migrants into the city by 50%. | ||
| I think it went up 50% in the last couple of years. | ||
| Of course there's going to be this insane overflow and it just can't handle it. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| It just can't handle it. | ||
| But they're taking advantage of something that's not for them. | ||
| So I understand the frustration about it. | ||
| But is there any kind of pushback to try to put a stop to that? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Joe, everybody's doing what benefits them. | ||
| And the politicians are shrewd. | ||
| Adams is shrewd. | ||
| He told the Governor Hochul, I think her name is, he was like, listen, I think we're going to have to shut down a new recruitment class for the police. | ||
| We don't have any more money because we got all these migrants. | ||
| I mean, you guys got to do something about that. | ||
| You got to give me some more money. | ||
| He got some more money? | ||
| He didn't shut down anything. | ||
| So he got more money, and now he's funding everything that he needs to fund, and I don't know if anything is changing. | ||
| So everybody's playing politics as well. | ||
| Well, wasn't he involved in some sort of a thing where they were giving the debit cards to the immigrants, the illegal migrants, and they were all getting a piece? | ||
| 50 is like, yo, what the hell is going on with this? | ||
| 50 is the best. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| Bro, we gotta hang with 50 sometimes. | ||
| I only met him once. | ||
| I met him at the UFC. He was cool as shit. | ||
| Back in the day, I interviewed him. | ||
| Wait, really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, for the UFC. Yeah, it was real quick. | ||
| He was a celebrity, sitting cage-side. | ||
| Bro, he's... | ||
| Dude... | ||
| He goes all in, bro. | ||
| He goes all in. | ||
| We hung out in Boston once, and he was telling me hood stories from Queens, because he was really in that life. | ||
| And it was blowing my mind. | ||
| It was like somebody explaining The Godfather to you. | ||
| If you've never saw the movie. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You're like, this happens? | ||
| This is real? | ||
| Yeah, just like... | ||
| He's a fucking man. | ||
| Anyway... | ||
| How come he's never been on your show? | ||
| I want to get him on. | ||
| I mean, we just connected for the first time when I was doing the shows up in Boston. | ||
| He was there as well. | ||
| But I want him on, too. | ||
| It's a perfect podcast, guys. | ||
| Oh, dude, he... | ||
| He goes all in. | ||
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He goes all in. | |
| That shit on The Breakfast Club with him about Diddy? | ||
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Bro. | |
| Bro, and he's been that way forever. | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| He's like, why is this guy trying to take me shopping? | ||
| He goes, what? | ||
| What the fuck did he just say? | ||
| What the fuck did he just say? | ||
| Did you see when Diddy went on? | ||
| He goes, I was just trying to be nice. | ||
| I thought he wanted some clothes. | ||
| He goes, I thought he needed some clothes. | ||
| That's like a subtle jab, too. | ||
| That was funny. | ||
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A little bit. | |
| But also, like, what? | ||
| Them going at it is just hilarious. | ||
| 50's one of those dudes where it's like, if 50 don't like you, I gotta hear him out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I gotta hear him out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might know something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He might be onto something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's wild. | ||
| Yeah, we gotta go to dinner at 5th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's wild. | ||
| I like when they were going after him for some financial support or something like that. | ||
| He said, I'm bankrupt. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's like, I don't got it. | ||
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What? | |
| I don't got it. | ||
| $400 million deal from fucking vitamin water. | ||
| The next fucking Instagram post, he's got a Bentley. | ||
| He's smart, dude. | ||
| He'll play the system. | ||
| He knows how to do it. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Let him write all the articles. | ||
| Oh, 50's broke. | ||
| Whatever you want. | ||
| And he's got his dudes from day one with him still. | ||
| That's something I always think is really cool. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| When are you coming back to New York, man? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm gonna be there for the UFC in Jersey. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's in June, I guess. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah, I'll be there for a little while. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| You don't miss it at all? | ||
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Mm-mm. | |
| Any place you miss? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not a single place? | ||
| No, I'm not like a misser kind of a guy. | ||
| What about foreign? | ||
| Like a place that you want to go back to? | ||
| I like going to visit places. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I like visiting places. | ||
| But it's like, I love Texas. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I love being right here. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like right away. | ||
| Like right away, I was like, ooh, this is it. | ||
| This is the spot. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's the perfect balance for me. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I miss what L.A. used to be, but I think we've done that and more at the mothership. | ||
| What L.A. was for me was my friends, the life that I lived, the people that I communicated with all the time, and the comedy store. | ||
| And you built that out here. | ||
| And we built that out here. | ||
| And we made it even better. | ||
| Anything from L.A. that you still want to bring out? | ||
| Besides Joey Diaz. | ||
| Joey's in New Jersey, but Joey's been coming out. | ||
| But he's from LA for you. | ||
| But Joey was sick of it before anybody was. | ||
| Joey was sick of it before anybody was. | ||
| When I left the Comedy Store in 2007, Joey was like, good, fuck that place. | ||
| Joey's a burn the bridges kind of guy. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| And he was the first guy to... | ||
| I think he moved to Jersey early on, man. | ||
| Like, right around the time I was moving to Texas, he was moving to Jersey. | ||
| He's like, I'm getting the fuck out of here. | ||
| I was trying to get him to come out of here, but he wasn't interested. | ||
| He loves Jersey. | ||
| But I think he'll eventually come out of here. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Yeah, he loved it when he was here, man. | ||
| I had him out here for three days, and I got him out here for 420 weekend out here. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| And, you know, when he's out here, it's like he misses the hang. | ||
| The hang, yeah. | ||
| He misses being around comics, misses the green room. | ||
| How was the energy in the green room when he was there? | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| It was just such a party. | ||
| On fire? | ||
| It was such a party. | ||
| And everybody was like, dude, I feel like Joey just belonged there. | ||
| He just sat down in the green room, and he's like, he's always been here. | ||
| Because it kind of always has been here. | ||
| That sign, get it together, bitch, that's on the wall, that's Joey. | ||
| That's what he always used to say. | ||
| When you get ready to go on stage, it's like, get it together, bitch! | ||
| It was like that meant the party was about to jump off. | ||
| So to have that neon sign in the green room, the spirit of Joey has always been there. | ||
| That's your last Avenger, bro. | ||
| You get that together. | ||
| He's the Hulk. | ||
| Yeah, that's facts. | ||
| You call him in. | ||
| You call him in when you need the Hulk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking Joey, man. | ||
| He's been murdering on stage, too. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He hasn't lost a beat. | ||
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Really? | |
| He hasn't lost a beat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does he go up in Jersey? | ||
| He goes up. | ||
| He goes up a couple times a week just to keep the dust off of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But when he came here, he was tuned in, man. | ||
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Really? | |
| He was ready to go. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| He was hilarious. | ||
| I'll tell you some of the shit he was saying. | ||
| He's so crazy. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait. | |
| He's so wild. | ||
| I don't want to give up his bits, but oh my god, he's so wild. | ||
| He's so fun, man. | ||
| And it's always fun. | ||
| It's fun with him. | ||
| Everything's fun. | ||
| Everything is good times. | ||
| Everybody gets hugs. | ||
| He loves you. | ||
| He tells everybody he loves them. | ||
| He's the party. | ||
| Nah, he's fantastic, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His stories. | ||
| I remember when he came on, on the pod. | ||
| I mean, his stories, just being in Colorado, those stories. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's a movie. | ||
| Like, you're watching a movie in your head. | ||
| Just this mook, just fucking walking around Colorado, taking advantage of all these dumb idiots. | ||
| They're like, oh, the trees are green. | ||
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Like, I'm going to take all of their money. | |
| It was just amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the fact that he gets into stand-up comedy. | ||
| He's just such a character, man. | ||
| There's no Joey Diaz other than him. | ||
| I don't know anybody like him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You get real lucky in this world that we live in, that you get to be close to these exceptional human beings. | ||
| They're just different. | ||
| They're just different than anybody else you know. | ||
| You collect a lot of these guys, I've noticed. | ||
| A lot of your friends, they're these unique personalities, especially the non-comics. | ||
| But they're these kind of misfits that I've noticed. | ||
| Even your buddy, was it Tommy, who plays Poole? | ||
| Every one of your guys that I meet, within 15 minutes, they're telling me a story that just blows my fucking mind. | ||
| And it's really interesting. | ||
| They're unique in their own right, but they are these characters that should be in movies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's a cultivation of extraordinary humans. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, life's more fun that way. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It makes your life richer. | ||
| You enjoy it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when they win, you win. | ||
| Everybody wins. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's all, everybody's having a good time. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And that's possible. | ||
| That could be done. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, it's just, but you have to cultivate it the same way you cultivate a garden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you gotta root it out, too. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You gotta have some bad apples in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotta get them out. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Gotta get them out. | ||
| Yeah, that can be tricky times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I miss Joey. | ||
| I gotta call Joey. | ||
| He'll be out here soon. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I gotta drag him into the city. | ||
| I wish he'd come. | ||
| I mean, he's kind of far. | ||
| Like, you know, where is he? | ||
| Like, Cherry Hill or something like that, right? | ||
| He's in, like, down there. | ||
| Yeah, so he's not, like, come in from the night. | ||
| No, he's an hour from the city. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| It's an hour. | ||
| If he's 20 minutes, then, you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He does a lot of Jersey rooms. | ||
| He'll do the Stress Factory. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He'll fuck around down there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do a lot of, you know, local gigs. | ||
| You know, there's gigs now. | ||
| There's a lot of places you could work just to fuck around, just keep the dust off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You know? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, him coming on was just fucking great. | ||
| Yeah, we're lucky we know all these people, man. | ||
| We're very lucky. | ||
| There's people out there that don't have any exceptional people in their life. | ||
| And they live through these conversations that we have with those people vicariously. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because those people become a part of their life, too. | ||
| Like, oh shit, Schultz is on! | ||
| And they get excited. | ||
| I will say that's the cool thing about people knowing you from podcasting, is that they probably know more about your life than even some of your friends do. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Because they're hanging out with you for hours a week. | ||
| So when they meet you, they're meeting this person they know a lot about, not this character from a TV show that is not reflective of you at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're not Ross from Friends. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because Ross might be completely different than Ross from Friends. | ||
| And I can understand why you might resent people loving you for a character you play when you know you're not that character. | ||
| But if people appreciate you for what you do, either in stand-up or even podcasting or whatever, it's like they're appreciating this thing you really care about and a true version of yourself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So the love feels worth it. | ||
| It feels justified. | ||
| That's also why it's very difficult to cast someone in an unfavorable light that people already know. | ||
| Like the Huberman thing, where you try to take a distorted version of that person and say, this is who they really are. | ||
| He talks to them four hours a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're not going to change the way that they feel about him. | ||
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He also talks to other people like you or me where we're fucking around, joking around, you get to see the real him. | |
| It's not just the distribution of information. | ||
| It's also like, this is the guy. | ||
| This is who he is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's gonna be okay. | ||
| Oh, he's be better than ever. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, he's fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's good that people see... | ||
| It's good that people see that he's at a position where... | ||
| They want to attack him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That means he's doing something good. | ||
| Well, he's a target, and if you're popular and famous, you're a target. | ||
| And if you're going to be the type of person that goes after those people, that's a dark path. | ||
| It's not a good path. | ||
| And you become a target, too. | ||
| They find you. | ||
| Well, that's, yeah. | ||
| What we were saying is, I think it's important that when these people are writing these clearly biased hit pieces, that they're also recognized for what they've done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the world will see that if you put out something like this, there is a cost. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're not doing it with impunity. | ||
| It's also there's a cost in your own mind. | ||
| You know what you did. | ||
| These motherfuckers, I don't think they care. | ||
| I think they do and they don't. | ||
| I think they think they can do it because they're supposed to do it because that's their job. | ||
| But I think once the impact comes back their way... | ||
| They're like, I don't want to pay this price. | ||
| Yeah, the blowback is awful. | ||
| And that blowback is... | ||
| It stays on you. | ||
| It doesn't... | ||
| People Google that for years to come. | ||
| They'll know when you write something else. | ||
| I never trust anything you put out again. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they'll dig into your past, man. | ||
| They'll find some things that you did. | ||
| They'll find some people that are upset at you. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| You know? | ||
| And it's also... | ||
| It's just like negative energy. | ||
| You're putting out negative energy. | ||
| People that build people up, people that build... | ||
| People up through their own version of reality that they're writing about and they're inspiring people and they're giving people hope and they're giving people something positive. | ||
| That's a great blow. | ||
| The response to that is like this beautiful thing that everybody's helping everybody advance through this bizarre existence. | ||
| But if you're the person that's just always knocking people down, always attacking, you live in that negative space. | ||
| Even like, dude, when I had that whole thing with Mencia, even that, which I knew A, had to be done, and B, I was one of the only people that was in a position To do it, yeah. | ||
| And even though I did experience, I experienced a lot of blowback, even career blowback. | ||
| I lost my agency. | ||
| I got banned from the store. | ||
| And even me, at the time, who was doing well, knew that, like, this is why people don't do this. | ||
| Because this is the real reaction to someone that steps up and says something about something that has to be said. | ||
| But even the negative shit that I would get, this was back in the I Read the Comments days, The negative response from his fans. | ||
| It was awful. | ||
| It was awful. | ||
| You don't want that in your life. | ||
| Even though I knew it was the right thing to do, I remember saying to myself, like, I'm not gonna get involved in one of these again. | ||
| I'm done with this. | ||
| This is gross. | ||
| It's like you're at the center point of this Nasty, negative thing. | ||
| Even though, for the art form, it was positive. | ||
| The negativity that I experienced, even though it was overwhelmingly positive, just the small amount of negativity is not worth it. | ||
| It felt bad for a long time. | ||
| I didn't like it. | ||
| And I didn't even like all the people that were constantly and consistently attacking him. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| I don't like any of it. | ||
| I don't like that every time he makes a comment, like, every time you post something, you steal that. | ||
| You've opened the door to the lowest version of the vibration that humans give. | ||
| The attacking, breaking you down. | ||
| I can kick you because you're down. | ||
| And they're just kicking him. | ||
| And, you know, in a lot of ways, he deserves it. | ||
| Because that's what he did. | ||
| That was his legacy. | ||
| That's what he did. | ||
| He stole material from comedians and created a career off of the back of other people's work. | ||
| And in every other business, that's theft. | ||
| In every other business, you get penalized, you go to court. | ||
| If it's music, you lose all your money. | ||
| And in this one, for whatever reason, our business, people don't take intellectual copyright nearly as seriously. | ||
| Jokes are thought of as not an important thing. | ||
| It's not like literature. | ||
| It's not like plagiarism. | ||
| They don't realize we pay the bills with this. | ||
| This is what we do. | ||
| It's how we feed our families. | ||
| And it is creative work. | ||
| It's difficult to do. | ||
| It takes hours. | ||
| It takes months. | ||
| It takes years. | ||
| Some bits takes forever to construct, to make them, where you can just rattle them off. | ||
| There's some bits that, you know, they just, they require years of, like, hammering that steel and sharpening that blade. | ||
| It takes forever. | ||
| I think that's the best metaphor for it. | ||
| It is sharpening a blade. | ||
| You're banging away at it constantly. | ||
| Constantly. | ||
| And you're doing it wrong, and you've got to Correct it. | ||
| You're doing it right. | ||
| You got to remember it. | ||
| Yeah, you got to go over the recordings. | ||
| You got to sit down with the notes. | ||
| Step away. | ||
| Come back a couple months. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| This is exciting. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes, yes. | ||
| But yeah, to take somebody's work like that is infuriating. | ||
| But it's a really interesting perspective to have for you to even look back at that and find empathy for him. | ||
| Oh, I definitely have empathy for him. | ||
| I have empathy for everybody and people that make horrible mistakes like he did for so long. | ||
| I have empathy for him. | ||
| And it's the trap that he's in because he won't admit it either is the worst. | ||
| That's the worst. | ||
| Wait a minute, to this day? | ||
| Yeah, he won't admit it. | ||
| So he's trapped. | ||
| He's trapped in this justification that nobody believes and he tries to spin a tale that nobody believes. | ||
| Because the truth is the only thing that'll set you free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the problem with those people, and there's a bunch of them, and we know quite a few of them, is there are people that start their careers stealing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they do really well. | ||
| And they kill it. | ||
| And then they get exposed. | ||
| And then they have to write their own shit. | ||
| And it doesn't add up. | ||
| Oh boy, that drop-off. | ||
| Oh boy, is that drop-off substantial. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There are people that had initial specials that were bangers. | ||
| And then after that initial special, everything after that is hot dog shit. | ||
| Clunky. | ||
| Because now they gotta do the work. | ||
| Now they have to do the work, and they don't know how to do it. | ||
| They don't understand the language they're speaking. | ||
| It's basically like speaking French, but you don't know what the words mean. | ||
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But you say, parlez-vous français, and everybody's like, amazing! | |
| But you don't know what the fuck you're saying. | ||
| You spoke French in a movie. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they gave you all the lines, and you did the lines, and everybody's like, this person's fluent in French. | ||
| And now you've got to go to Paris and walk around. | ||
| And people are speaking to you in French. | ||
| And you're like, I don't understand a fucking word anybody's saying. | ||
| The language of comedy, too, is something that you... | ||
| The type of mindset that would make a person steal someone's bit and do it verbatim on stage is the exact opposite mindset of a creative person. | ||
| Because you want to do the different thing. | ||
| You want to do the unique thing. | ||
| You want to have to take nobody else has. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which is the banger. | ||
| When you go, well, hold on. | ||
| What about that? | ||
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And it was like, ah! | |
| Who told them that? | ||
| How come that just fucking stopped being an issue? | ||
| The beautiful thing about a joke is that it always is existing. | ||
| The great ones are always existing right in front of us. | ||
| And we just haven't grabbed on it. | ||
| So when somebody says it, you're like, you motherfucker. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| How did I not? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the best feeling when someone has a bit, you're like, why didn't I think of that? | ||
| That's the best feeling. | ||
| When someone comes up to you and goes, oh my god, that bit is so good. | ||
| And it can be simple. | ||
| It can be such a simple... | ||
| But that requires it... | ||
| You're not thinking about yourself. | ||
| You're thinking about the work, the thing, the piece that you're working on. | ||
| When you're a person who thinks about themselves, you're like, I'm gonna kill by saying these things, and I'm gonna get this. | ||
| You're literally blocking creativity. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so then when they have to be creative, it's terrible. | ||
| They just never learned. | ||
| They don't know how to do it. | ||
| They never spend the time in the gym. | ||
| They don't know how to lift the weights. | ||
| They just don't know what it is. | ||
| And they're pretending they're black belts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're out there pretending to be a black belt with all the confidence of a black belt, but they got bullshit moves. | ||
| Yeah, and they get knocked out. | ||
| Yeah, they get fucked up. | ||
| No, that does happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hilarious when you see a really bad special from a known thief. | ||
| And some of them, they'll still step on premises that they know other people have done, and it still sucks. | ||
| Because they can't steal anymore. | ||
| The language is the best way of putting it. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| You don't understand the language of comedy. | ||
| Yeah, it is a fucking... | ||
| And that's something I wonder, like, the people who start really young... | ||
| Like, you know how, like, when you learn a language young, you have a way greater aptitude for it, and there's a fluency and a comfort within it? | ||
| Whereas if you try to learn a language at, like, 40... | ||
| Maybe it's just not going to be as strong. | ||
| Like, you can memorize vocabulary. | ||
| You can do all these things. | ||
| It's just a little bit harder for you to be, like, natural. | ||
| Well, you don't have the resources because you don't have, like, when you're 40, you have bills and family and obligations and things that are bothering you all day long. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When you're 15 or 12, you don't have any of those problems. | ||
| You have a few problems with friends. | ||
| You don't have any bills. | ||
| Food's available every night. | ||
| You're not worrying about how that electric stays on. | ||
| I don't give a shit about that. | ||
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You're free. | |
| You don't get the Internet's on. | ||
| I type in. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Explore. | ||
| Yeah, you're free. | ||
| You have so little resources that are being allocated to all these different things, that when you're a person, you have a family, a mortgage, a fucking business, this and that, and a neighborhood, homeowners association, human resources at work, and taxes, you don't have the time to learn French. | ||
| Yeah, you better learn it before all that. | ||
| Yeah, it's much easier if you learn it before all that. | ||
| Because otherwise, you're just not going to have the time to obsess about a thing. | ||
| And the obsession and, like, the purity when you really care about the thing you're talking about. | ||
| Like, I don't know if you've went through times in your stand-up career where, like, there wasn't something you wanted to share. | ||
| Did you ever go through stretches like that? | ||
| Yeah, you have nothing to talk about. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Especially when you're young. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| Or there was times where, like, I felt like I talked about all the things. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| And I had, like, a... | ||
| Before this last hour, I was like... | ||
| Man, what do I want to say? | ||
| Alright, I did the thing about abortion. | ||
| I've done the thing about trans. | ||
| I did all the things. | ||
| And I'm like, I don't want to just be grabbing at a topic. | ||
| I want to really, like, feel strongly about something. | ||
| Actually be interested. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I took, like, a little bit of time off before I actually felt something. | ||
| And the funny thing is, when you feel strongly about something, it pours out. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| The jokes might not be good at first, but you can't wait to tell them and figure them out. | ||
| Try to figure out a joke you don't care about is a job. | ||
| It's not an art. | ||
| That's a job. | ||
| But when you care and it's fun and exciting and the stakes are fucking high and it could fuck up, that I want to get on stage. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| Give me another spot. | ||
| How do I work? | ||
| And you try to figure it out in real time in front of a group of people. | ||
| And you have to elicit a specific response from them. | ||
| It has to be humor. | ||
| You know what's so funny is like, you ever listen to a recording of like a new bit? | ||
| And when you were on stage doing it, you're like, that crushed. | ||
| And then when you listen back, you're like, oh, it did okay. | ||
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But you were just so excited that it worked. | |
| Yes. | ||
| That the excitement changed almost the way that you interpreted the crowd. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I don't know, for me, I'm like, oh, that means I really like this. | ||
| But also, that's the problem with old bits. | ||
| You don't get enthusiastic about it anymore. | ||
| And the audience doesn't feel the enthusiasm from you. | ||
| And you're like, why is this not working? | ||
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Right. | |
| It's because you're not working. | ||
| Because it's not math. | ||
| Some people are doing like word problem jokes. | ||
| At its core, it's not word problem. | ||
| It's like those people got to connect to the way you feel about this thing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And they'll pick up quick. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And there's ways to trick the system with like Mr. X and all this kind of stuff. | ||
| But if they can feel, they can sense that deep down you don't give a fuck, they're not giving it up. | ||
| And you got guys like Joey is a perfect example. | ||
| It's like when he's fucking rolling, he feels it. | ||
| It feels like he is equally passionate about it the first time he said it and then. | ||
| And you get caught up. | ||
| It's becoming a joke. | ||
| It's hypnosis. | ||
| It is. | ||
| You're hypnotizing the entire crowd to think the way Joey thinks. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| You're on like an emotional wavelength. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And to me, that's the highest form of it. | ||
| Obviously, you want to have the structure, you want to have the jokes, you want to have the misdirects and all these things, 100%. | ||
| But to me, I think those are almost like, that's like the icing and sprinkles on the cake. | ||
| The cake is built with, how much do I really fucking care about this position? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And sometimes the position is just me being naughty or silly or absurd. | ||
| It doesn't matter, but I got to fucking care about it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be important to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they feel that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And those, I don't know, those are the bits I always remember. | ||
| They can be the silliest little fucking things, like little things Patrice would do about, you know, the subway stopping. | ||
| You saw that one where like, excuse me, someone's just been hit by the subway. | ||
| There's going to be a delay. | ||
| And he just, he just stands there and all of a sudden he like moves his sleeve to look at his watch to see how late he's going to be to work. | ||
| And it's just this little tiny thing, which is like, that's how we would feel in that moment. | ||
| He didn't even need a punchline. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
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That guy's dead, turned into jelly on the tracks. | |
| He's like, 915, fuck! | ||
| How many of those can I make in my life? | ||
| And you always think that when you have a new bit, like, this is the last new bit. | ||
| I don't have anything else to say. | ||
| But you'll always have something to say. | ||
| You just need the time. | ||
| You need the time. | ||
| You need to think. | ||
| And again, it needs to be something you're actually interested in. | ||
| So you have to find something you're actually interested in. | ||
| That's the difference between thieves. | ||
| They don't have interest. | ||
| They have interest in killing. | ||
| They're interested in themselves. | ||
| How can I succeed? | ||
| How can I win? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're usually always tearing down other comedians, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is always ironic. | ||
| Well, because they're projecting how they feel about themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| But it's also fascinating that there's still a few thieves out there that have managed to, like, slip through. | ||
| And they're existing around us. | ||
| We're all aware of them. | ||
| Like, there, there's one. | ||
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There's one. | |
| Look at them over there. | ||
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Piece of shit. | |
| Why do you think that there are more people that don't call them out than? | ||
| Because there's definitely career... | ||
| Implications. | ||
| Consequences. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like some of these people wind up being successful and they hire people. | ||
| That's one of the things they love to do. | ||
| Thieves will hire a bunch of other thieves when they get a television show. | ||
| And they have thieves... | ||
| Like a thief will hire a bunch of comedians, I should say, when they get a television show and they give them work and they support them. | ||
| And then this is like, then you have a bunch of people that will defend you. | ||
| That's very common. | ||
| And because you're paying them... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like the thieves will go out and get a bunch of people that maybe they swipe some bits from and they'll put them on their television show. | ||
| Yeah, I know people have done that. | ||
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So that's their way of almost like paying for silence. | |
| Paying them back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Hooking them up. | |
| Paying them back. | ||
| I'll give you examples after the show. | ||
| We don't need to be negative, talk about people, but there's a bunch of that that I know of. | ||
| But you know, there's also a bunch of people that are killing it that we know are pure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And having this amazing, successful run right now because of the internet, because of streaming platforms that are leaning into really good comedy and not comedy that fits a certain narrative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think those people... | ||
| If I look at the people who are having the most success right now, I think it's the people that are pure. | ||
| There's a lot of that, yeah. | ||
| We can talk after, but the people that I see crushing it, the people I'm looking at, and I'm just like, holy shit, this guy deserves it. | ||
| Shane deserves it. | ||
| And he's just hilarious. | ||
| And I'm looking at these people and I'm just like, that could've went a different way. | ||
| It could've went a really different way. | ||
| The structure was set up in a way where he had another opportunity and with his second chance demolished anything that could have stood in his way. | ||
| And it's like, okay, I look at that and I go, okay, there is some justice in this. | ||
| It's also like people are in his corner. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They want him to succeed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, when you're good, people want to fight for you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a great time for comedy, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think it might be the best time ever. | ||
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Of course. | |
| I really do. | ||
| I think this is legitimately the golden age of comedy. | ||
| We're in it. | ||
| And this is also when, like Ari said it best, he's like, comedy's dangerous now. | ||
| Because it's fun. | ||
| Because comedy's dangerous again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because there's so many people that want to restrict what people can and can't talk about. | ||
| That's unique. | ||
| I feel like the restriction is less now. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now, right now, currently. | ||
| Like in today, I feel like we can kind of say anything. | ||
| As opposed to like two years ago. | ||
| Two, five, five to two years. | ||
| Now you're like, oh shit, this joke is wild to say. | ||
| Well, it's also people are wanting you to go out there. | ||
| They get excited. | ||
| Like when you do that Diddy bit. | ||
| People wanted you to go out there. | ||
| They're like, oh, he went right in there. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| I remember I got to LA a day early and I was trying to work out some local stuff. | ||
| Because sometimes it's fun to just, you know, you're in a city. | ||
| And I was at the store and I was bombing my ass off with local shit. | ||
| Every local joke I tried to do just fucking bombed. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck am I going to talk about? | ||
| The forum. | ||
| Like, everything I try. | ||
| And I thought that they were, like, aware that, like, the city was, you know, in a different state than it used to be. | ||
| And I'm trying to write all these jokes about, like, what's happened to the city. | ||
| And people in L.A. don't really feel the city's changed that much. | ||
| That's, like, an outside perspective. | ||
| So I'm saying it, and they're kind of laughing, but they're like, or they're aware and they don't want to admit it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I remember we just, I was just in the green room, and I'm just like, fuck, maybe the joke is about Diddy. | ||
| That's the only thing everybody's talking about. | ||
| Oh, it's on our minds. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| And then, bro, this is how funny 50 is. | ||
| I'll share this. | ||
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Can you? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll tell you the full thing after. | ||
| I got FaceTime from 50 and he's like, he's like, "Yo, next time..." He goes, "Yo, next time I come see you, bro, I'm gonna come out on stage with a Maltese cat." I'm like, "Bro, you're the craziest motherfucker." Imagine him walking out on the show, petting a fucking cat. | ||
| So what do you think was going on? | ||
| With who? | ||
| Meek and Diddy? | ||
| I don't think Meek's gay. | ||
| I don't think anything's happened with them. | ||
| I think that was just a funny rumor that happened. | ||
| I even said that when I first did the Meek joke. | ||
| I was like, I don't think he's gay. | ||
| He just handled the accusations poorly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He just handled them poorly. | ||
| He said, I love pussy. | ||
| Who does that? | ||
| That's the gayest thing. | ||
| Yeah, he's gay. | ||
| But I don't think he's gay. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that's just an unsophisticated approach to PR. Yeah. | ||
| Like his PR team's probably like, hey, maybe don't say that. | ||
| You've got to do something! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I mean, he's probably not consulting with anybody. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If I had to guess, nobody consults with you when something happens. | ||
| You just post whatever you want. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I don't have like a team telling me, don't say that before the podcast. | ||
| That would be a problem. | ||
| Yeah, it would be. | ||
| Yeah, I would have never gotten anywhere. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, we need you to not have a team, actually. | ||
| Yeah, it's actually kind of important. | ||
| You don't have a bunch of people you consult with about what could be dangerous. | ||
| Because then who controls them? | ||
| What are their intentions? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And what are they doing this based on? | ||
| You know, self-preservation? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's just wild that apparently he had cameras in every room of his house. | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| Has that been verified? | ||
| I don't think it's been verified. | ||
| I think like the Epstein shit, it never will be. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying that he's like Epstein. | ||
| You know, I think he could have some fucking wild parties, etc. | ||
| But if he was filming everybody... | ||
| If he's filming everybody, I understand why Hummer showed up to the house. | ||
| Because people who went to the parties were like, get those fucking things. | ||
| Hundreds of hidden cameras discovered in Diddy's homes, lawsuit says. | ||
| Oh, well then, it's a wrap. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Hundreds. | ||
| Yeah, we'll never see any of that footage. | ||
| This dude had hundreds of cameras. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| Because if he's doing wild shit... | ||
| At court filing, Jones said he worked with Combs between September 22nd to September of 2022 and September of 2023 to produce the rapper's most recent release... | ||
| So he's had hundreds of cameras in his homes in L.A., New York, and Miami. | ||
| And did he like to throw the parties? | ||
| Like, he would throw the white party. | ||
| But who does he have taking care of that footage? | ||
| I mean, you know, you can get people. | ||
| Powerful dude. | ||
| He's a powerful dude. | ||
| And I think he really enjoyed power. | ||
| The underage people implicating people in crimes by bringing underage people to them. | ||
| Wait, what does that mean? | ||
| That was the whole thing about the Epstein plays, is that if you've got underage girls, and you don't tell these guys these are underage girls, and then you get them drugged up, get them drunk, give them coke, whatever it is, and then film them. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, they don't even know. | ||
| So they don't know that they're committing acts of pedophilia. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Or could be they do know and they think it's safe to do it because this guy's protecting them. | ||
| But meanwhile, they're just coked up and they're getting filmed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, which is also the theory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it is... | ||
| You gotta think... | ||
| When someone becomes like a wild billionaire character, you're like, well, where's the pussy? | ||
| Where's the shit that I got rich for? | ||
| Imagine you went to the island. | ||
| Where's all the fun? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How do I get the fun? | ||
| And then someone comes along like, you need to get connected with my friend Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| He takes care of everything. | ||
| And he brings the fun. | ||
| And so you just keep flying to hang out with them. | ||
| And so that's your partying. | ||
| You can't go to Vegas and go to Dre's and pick up hoes and get crazy and bring them back to your suite with Coke. | ||
| And people talk too much. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| It's like these tech guys have made all this money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They made all this money. | ||
| They're hanging out in Miami or wherever they're hanging. | ||
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| And they're like, I'm a billionaire now. | ||
| Why am I not getting pussy? | ||
| I gotta connect with some people that can make me the man. | ||
| I thought I'd be the man now that I'm a billionaire. | ||
| I bet in the CEO world, and in that world of country clubs and fucking skull and bones, there's dudes who know how to get the hookers. | ||
| Oh, here's the thing. | ||
| It's not even the skull and bones guys. | ||
| Because that's like old wasp shit. | ||
| I'm talking about the nerd from Silicon Valley. | ||
| The nerds know prostitutes. | ||
| The nerds have coke. | ||
| It's not even the nerds. | ||
| They have a guy who it's their job to throw the parties. | ||
| It's the fixer. | ||
| Now, you know these jet setter crews? | ||
| My boy was explaining how this thing worked to me. | ||
| They have these events around the globe that wealthy people go. | ||
| Like Davos. | ||
| Not even Davos, more just like New York Fashion Week and the US Open all happens around Labor Day in New York, right? | ||
| So everybody who comes from money and all these rich socialite people from around the world, they all come to New York for that week, right? | ||
| And they go to the nice parties and they do all the things. | ||
| Tech bros or the crypto bros want to be included in that cool thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How do they be included? | ||
| They got to throw the best party. | ||
| How do you make the best party? | ||
| You have to have all the models. | ||
| You have to have the cool people. | ||
| They don't know any of those. | ||
| So you get the fixer. | ||
| The fixers get paid crazy money from the tech bros or crypto bros because they want in on this thing. | ||
| And you develop a reputation of being the guy who puts on the crazy bashes. | ||
| Now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Once you have that reputation, they think they're in. | ||
| All these other people who are like the socialite people who come from tons of money and their parents are lords and shit, they look at them like, oh, you're paying a play. | ||
| It's a bringer show for comedy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're not really selling out Caroline's. | ||
| You did the bringer show. | ||
| But they don't know that. | ||
| So they're like, yeah, we're all partying. | ||
| We're doing the thing. | ||
| So there's this whole economy that kind of like feasts off these people who just have money. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Those people are doing the fixers. | ||
| They got the models to show up. | ||
| These models are curating their Instagram by going to these parties around the world. | ||
| Sometimes they're getting paid to go to the parties. | ||
| I imagine the models that are more fun, in other words, Right. | ||
| And you start doing a little blow, start doing a little molly, that's what you like to do in the first place, and then you get to party on yachts, and you're hanging out with all these guys, and maybe they even pay you. | ||
| Well, they are paying them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And everybody's fucking the same girls. | ||
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Maybe it's a lot of money. | |
| It's a lot of money. | ||
| Like, you know the Sultan of Brunei's deal? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Sultan of Brunei, he had his own nightclub. | ||
| Maybe he still does. | ||
| So he had his own nightclub. | ||
| He has like 500 Ferraris. | ||
| These guys have insane amounts of money because it's not public. | ||
| So they don't have to be like the world's richest men. | ||
| But they're richer than everybody. | ||
| They have trillions. | ||
| And so he had his own nightclub. | ||
| And so what he would do is he would pay actresses, he would find these girls, get me her, and he would get these gals and give them exorbitant amounts of money to come. | ||
| And then he would have a nightclub where it was only him. | ||
| And he would go down there and it's filled with gorgeous women. | ||
| And he would go down there and just go, you, come with me. | ||
| And then they'd go fucking party. | ||
| And they were making a lot of money, and one of them was writing a book. | ||
| And so she had a laptop, and she was like documenting, and they confiscated her laptop, and then she went back to America, then she spilled the beans, and she ratted out all the other girls that were doing it, and it kind of fucked up the whole thing. | ||
| Because like, A-list people were getting shit-tons of money to go over there and party. | ||
| People we know. | ||
| Yeah, I won't say A-list, but people that you know. | ||
| People you know of. | ||
| And if you go there, you get millions of dollars. | ||
| Like this lady had gotten millions of dollars in jewelry from him. | ||
| There's a service that apparently... | ||
| I love that word. | ||
| Yeah, apparently, right? | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Billionaires can fuck like Sports Illustrated models and shit. | ||
| Like Victoria's Secret chicks. | ||
| Chicks that we've seen. | ||
| And it costs a lot of money, and they do it because it's like, hey, it's easier than going to do these shoots. | ||
| It's the easiest money. | ||
| And they don't want to tell anybody that they did it. | ||
| And also, they're getting to fuck billionaires. | ||
| They're not fucking some random crackhead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're going to already fuck the billionaires, so I might as well make some fucking money doing it. | ||
| And it exists now. | ||
| And you know about this, allegedly? | ||
| Allegedly, I may know people who have partaken. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| This exists! | ||
| Bang, like, cover of Maxim. | ||
| I don't know the cover. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| Just some hot ladies that you're aware of. | ||
| But they're not just hot chicks that come from Russia, right? | ||
| We're talking about... | ||
| Famous people. | ||
| That you would never think would even need to do that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| These are like the ecosystems that exist out there. | ||
| Well, it makes sense. | ||
| If you're worth $200 billion, and you give someone a million dollars to fuck you, that is nothing. | ||
| You make that in five minutes. | ||
| Okay, in 2001, Jeffrey was forced to auction off his personal possessions after using the country as a piggy bank, spending an average of $747,000 a day for 10 years, on top of the $17 billion in gifts When you don't work for your money, how can you value it? | ||
| Like, if it just comes right out the ground... | ||
| Like, how do you really think $10,000 is worth something? | ||
| How much was he spending a day? | ||
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That's so crazy. | |
| He lives in a palace with 1,788 rooms, 257 bathrooms, 5 swimming pools, a mosque, a banquet hall that holds 5,000 people, and a 110 car garage. | ||
| When he turned 50, the Sultan built a stadium, invited Michael Jackson to perform in it, and paid him $17 million for three concerts. | ||
| Jeffrey, 59, maintains a separate pleasure palace and once owned a 150-foot yacht called the Tits. | ||
| He named his fenders nipple one and nipple two and he could never understand why others found that juvenile and crass. | ||
| Here and abroad, the brothers are infamous for their sex parties and their harems composed mainly of underage girls. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Bro, that amount of money that he's spending? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That is so crazy. | ||
| Three billion dollars plus. | ||
| But that said it didn't include the $17 billion that he was giving out to people. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Did you mention the Michael Jackson thing for his birthday? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Okay, okay. | |
| That dude's ballin', son. | ||
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But yeah, these fucking things exist all over the place. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| And it's the easiest money that these girls will ever make. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and it's so... | ||
| If you've got that much money... | ||
| It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| They light it on fire. | ||
| And the money's coming every day. | ||
| It's just stacking up. | ||
| Giving someone a million dollars to fuck. | ||
| And the girl's probably like, wait, a million dollars? | ||
| Just regular sex? | ||
| He's not going to shit on me? | ||
| He's not going to give me the Cincinnati top hat? | ||
| Whatever the fuck... | ||
| I was asking, because when I was out there in Abu Dhabi, I was trying to understand some of the cultural nuances, but I had a joke about it, but I was asking about the Dubai shit. | ||
| Did you send me that? | ||
| I did a joke out there. | ||
| But they told me that the Burj Khalifa has a separate sewage system because it wasn't connected to the sewage system of Dubai. | ||
| So they have these poop trucks that take the poop out, right? | ||
| And the joke I said is like, well, that's why they have to shit on the hooker's chest, because it's not connected to the plumbing, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they were telling me these interesting cultural things that happen out there, like with the license plates. | ||
| Have you heard about this? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Where the lower the number, the more expensive it is. | ||
| Yeah, crazy expensive. | ||
| Yeah, millions of dollars for a number three license plate. | ||
| And I'm like, why is that? | ||
| And one of the kids who's from the royal family goes, you have to understand, when everybody has a G-Wagon or Range Rover, it is not a big deal to have a G-Wagon or Range Rover. | ||
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Right. | |
| And people have this need... | ||
| To show off. | ||
| But if everybody got the expensive shit, how else can you flex? | ||
| Right. | ||
| License plate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Also crime over there almost non-existent. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Go to Dubai and commit a crime. | ||
| See how that goes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go to Abu Dhabi and commit a crime. | ||
| They've compartmentalized society. | ||
| But yeah, they're strict, but it's also like that anybody there who's working has been there's a working class of people who do not really operate outside of working within the society. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then everybody else there who's not part of the working class has money. | ||
| So why would you commit crime? | ||
| There's also, did you ever see the Vice documentary on some of the people that built Dubai? | ||
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No. | |
| So some of the contractors, what they would do is they would go to third world countries and they'd promise people exorbitant amounts of money to go over there and work construction. | ||
| Then they'd bring them over to Dubai and then take their passports and then force them to live in squalor, give them a fraction of what they paid, and they're basically indentured servants. | ||
| Yeah, so the working system is, I don't know how different it is from that even today, but basically like you work there for 11 months, you get one month off, you get paid very little money. | ||
| It's not enough money for upward mobility. | ||
| While you're there, you are working just to work and then send money back home to your family, wherever it is. | ||
| You never will become part of society. | ||
| So they've really curated a system where those people have no upward mobility. | ||
| Now, I imagine the advantage of that is there's no crime. | ||
| Because everybody who's poor there is working. | ||
| And they know their place. | ||
| They're in danger. | ||
| It's not simple. | ||
| It's not like you can just get away with things. | ||
| And we're taking you from destitute poverty where your family would die. | ||
| So they're like, yeah, we're giving you an opportunity. | ||
| These people are like, well, if I fuck up here, my whole family dies back home or my whole family starves or my whole family is going to go through some horrible situation. | ||
| So I'm the lifeline for my family. | ||
| So they are taking advantage of that desperation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But yeah, I guess what they would dictate, they would say the benefit of that is no crime. | ||
| But there is a social cost of that. | ||
| There is a subclass of people that are there. | ||
| There's always going to be a social cost when you have monarchies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and then you have people with exorbitant wealth and all the power. | ||
| And then, you know, some of them turned bad, like Saddam Hussein and his sons, which were famously some of the most evil motherfuckers that ever existed. | ||
| I mean, they would feed women to dogs. | ||
| They would find women that were getting married, steal the woman from the marriage, rape her, and then feed her to dogs. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Uday and Kuse. | ||
| There's been many tales written about how evil they were. | ||
| They were like legitimate serial killers. | ||
| That's the risk of the monarchy, right? | ||
| You don't know if that egg that comes out is good. | ||
| Well, it's also like having a child that grows up with total, complete power. | ||
| You're going to have a Joffrey. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, that's the archetype. | ||
| But maybe you get a, what is the guy that everybody thinks said everything great? | ||
| Marcus Aurelius. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He did a lot of psychedelics. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he was a part of the Eleusinian Mysteries. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah, he was a part of that whole Greek Eleusinian Mysteries thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he was involved in those ceremonies. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of speculation that ancient Greek society, specifically from Brian Mororescu's work. | ||
| Did you ever talk to him? | ||
| No, but I read some stuff about there are certain plants that grow that elicited the same chemical compounds as DMT or something. | ||
| As LSD. Or LSD, yeah. | ||
| Well, there's a bunch of different ones that do all kinds of different psychoactive ones, but they've absolutely found definitive proof of the use of ergot. | ||
| And ergot is a fungus that gives people the same sort of psychedelic experience as LSD. Ergot? | ||
| Ergot, yeah. | ||
| It's a fungus. | ||
| It's also a fungus that they connect with the Salem Witch Trials. | ||
| Like a mushroom? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a fungus that grows on wheat. | ||
| And that fungus, it can be toxic for some people, it can kill them at certain doses, but it also imparts an LSD effect. | ||
| And they found ergot in some of the wine vessels. | ||
| So they were taking it without even knowing? | ||
| No, they were taking it on purpose. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| A heroic Greek potion. | ||
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Ergot was in this drink. | |
| The kykion. | ||
| Yeah, that's what they called it, this drink. | ||
| And so they believed this drink contained a mixture of a bunch of different psychedelic compounds. | ||
| One of it's for sure they know as ergot, but there's a few other ones that I can't remember that they know are in there as well. | ||
| And they found this from studying these ancient pottery vessels. | ||
| Yeah, your saucer looks like a mushroom. | ||
| Is that on purpose? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But it could. | ||
| But if your whole idea is... | ||
| Saucers and mushrooms do have a lot of similarities. | ||
| But the stoned ape theory is if the mushrooms that took us to the next level and now we have the aliens taking us to the next level. | ||
| It might be the aliens brought us the mushrooms. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| But yeah, this is crazy. | ||
| So then he was taking all that and that's why all this wisdom... | ||
| Well, that's why he was so beyond wise. | ||
| And he also believed in forgiveness, even forgiveness of his enemies. | ||
| He was a Roman emperor. | ||
| No, he was very compassionate. | ||
| He has all these great quotes. | ||
| I guess what I assume is like in the same way that somebody is writing Obama speeches, people were writing his stuff. | ||
| So I imagine that his stoicisms or whatever are the collection of the greatest ideas of the time. | ||
| And the way to disseminate that information is to be like, yo, it's from the emperor. | ||
| It's from the top boss. | ||
| Part of it, but meditations, I don't believe was ever written with the intent of it being distributed. | ||
| Oh, so they just found this diary. | ||
| Find that out. | ||
| I think that's the case. | ||
| I'm not trying to discredit him. | ||
| I'm just trying to say that. | ||
| No, no, I know what you're saying. | ||
| Well, for sure, definitely. | ||
| I mean, everybody at any point in time has the information of the greatest minds they've encountered. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Einstein was talking to other great people, and then he might have the greatest mind, but he's still able to... | ||
| Yeah, it's a collaborative effort, including with philosophy, and certainly back then. | ||
| But, you know, this guy, this one guy, his experiences, to this day, they resonate. | ||
| You read meditations today, like, oh, this is a guidebook to how to live your life in a better way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's rare that you would have someone in his circumstance where he was raised to be king. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Then he would be successful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, and then his son turns out to be a cunt. | ||
| But didn't they say that was because of the lead pipes or something like that? | ||
| I'm sure that had something to do with it. | ||
| There was something about, like, I was reading, or was it Nero, who was the, uh, there was one emperor that just went crazy, and they said is he wasn't raised in the castle, he wasn't raised in the forum, or whatever the fuck it was, and then when he moved there and he started consuming the water from the lead pipes, that they started to warp his brain, and then he went more and more crazy throughout. | ||
| I mean, this is what some tour guide told me. | ||
| Totally makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| They didn't know what lead did to you. | ||
| They were stoked to have pipes. | ||
| George Washington's teeth were made with lead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, that's that Shane Gillis bit. | ||
| Oh, it's a great bit. | ||
| It's a fucking banger of a bit. | ||
| I love that bit. | ||
| But that's true. | ||
| The literal mold that his teeth were fitted into was lead. | ||
| He carried lead in his mouth all day. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just nuts. | ||
| Wild boy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the country was founded by wild, crazy fucking people. | ||
| You kind of need a crazy motherfucker to found a country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like the most sane thing to be like, yeah, let's just thwart the whole system, do something completely different, we'll do it on our own. | ||
| Not only that, but have this fail-safe method that exists today to keep someone from becoming a tyrant. | ||
| Oh, to relinquish the power. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That was the greatest thing. | ||
| Yeah, I think that might have been the greatest thing a leader has ever done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To set in motion this idea that you are not going to maintain this power after you have it. | ||
| Yeah, no one can. | ||
| What a fucking... | ||
| Pretty amazing that they had the foresight. | ||
| Did he write about it at all? | ||
| Like, is there a moment where he regretted it two months later? | ||
| He's like, man, I should have kept that shit. | ||
| Like, he's gonna deal with a parking ticket or something. | ||
| He's like, fuck! | ||
| After he gets out of office, it's bullshit. | ||
| I could put my horse here. | ||
| I mean, imagine if someone tried to form a country today, how quick they'd put the kibosh on that. | ||
| I mean, it happens all the time. | ||
| Yeah, but if somebody went to some new Greenland or something and just said, we're going to set up shop here. | ||
| Yeah, the powers that be go, no. | ||
| No, a chance. | ||
| We don't do new countries. | ||
| Are you going to have weapons? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| You're going to make an army? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We're going to find a reason why you guys are whatever you are. | ||
| Pedophiles, racists. | ||
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I think you're racist. | |
| Yeah, whatever the fuck you are. | ||
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You hate women. | |
| Yeah, we're going over there. | ||
| Yeah, we've got to stop this. | ||
| We've got to figure out a way to invade. | ||
| When are we going to take Greenland already? | ||
| Or buy it? | ||
| Wasn't Trump talking about buying it? | ||
| He made a tweet, I promise I won't do this. | ||
| And he had like a giant Trump Tower there that said Trump on the ceiling. | ||
| But it sounded like a cool acquisition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, don't they have all these minerals and stuff? | ||
| And there's all these great... | ||
| Also, if the world does warm up, that's a good spot to go to. | ||
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Ah. | |
| You know, throughout history, when the world's gotten colder and warmer, people have moved away from the places where you can't live in and moved to the places where you can live. | ||
| So we got a nice little failsafe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A little something. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| A little something. | ||
| We're just all in Greenland. | ||
| Well, there was discussions about Trump buying Greenland. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's got a lot of... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Why didn't that happen? | ||
| I think Greenland shut it down. | ||
| Isn't Greenland owned by Denmark or something like that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Come on. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I just didn't get the right offer. | ||
| That might be the offer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we've made some good deals. | ||
| Like, that fucking Louisiana purchase was a good deal. | ||
| What a crazy deal. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| How about Alaska? | ||
| That's a crazy deal. | ||
| Yeah, Alaska was nuts. | ||
| Since 1867, the United States has considered or made several proposals to purchase the island of Greenland. | ||
| From Denmark, yeah. | ||
| From Denmark who did it with the Danish West Indies in 1917 while Griemen remains an autonomous territory within the kingdom of Denmark a 1951 treaty gives the United States much control over an island once partially claimed from exploration There's got to be all kinds of shit up there they could use yeah Yeah. | ||
| What do you think about Antarctica? | ||
| Well, did you ever see that one guy that was on the Sean Ryan show that claims that there's like a direct energy weapon out of Antarctica? | ||
| Boy, that guy seems overconfident. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That he knows what he's talking about. | ||
| He's a fireman. | ||
| He's not a scientist. | ||
| I had access to everything. | ||
| Yeah, there's something about that that doesn't sit right with me, but I don't know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's so hard, unless you have evidence, unless you could show that they could turn this thing on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what is it? | ||
| It's a neutrino detector that also can be used as a directed energy weapon. | ||
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That's it. | |
| Directed energy weapons is what they're saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, listen, that's a concept that existed for a long time. | ||
| I'm sure they probably have something like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They definitely have things that were just theoretical. | ||
| They have a railgun now, and this railgun can go through multiple layers of steel. | ||
| Have you ever seen the railgun in operation? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| A railgun, just like from Quake, this thing sends this bolt through, like, I think they did like 10 giant steel plates in a row, and it just went through all of them like it was hot butter. | ||
| But is it a laser? | ||
| What is the material that's actually going through it? | ||
| I don't know exactly how it works. | ||
| So this is the thing. | ||
| So this is the rail, this bolt going through all this steel. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| It just goes through everything. | ||
| Goes through all that shit. | ||
| Look at it going through it. | ||
| Just going through everything, man. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| I mean, it's like total science fiction Star Wars type shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So they've got some wild shit, and I guarantee they're working on direct energy weapons as well. | ||
| Now, what they've been able to accomplish versus what is theoretical, that's the real question. | ||
| And if it did exist, if there was a direct energy weapon, would they tell us? | ||
| I don't think they would. | ||
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No. | |
| Why would they tell us? | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, the conspiracies out there get wild. | ||
| Like, there's pyramids there. | ||
| You've seen that one, I'm sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you also start digging, they say nobody can, like, dig under the ice. | ||
| Like, don't mess with the ice out there. | ||
| I think there's, like, a treaty across all, like, countries that have somehow, like, taken apart or claimed a part of Antarctica. | ||
| But I think the tricky thing is, like, if you start digging and you find animal remains, like, humans tend to follow animals wherever they go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So are we going to find some humans over there? | ||
| And then how does that distort the historical timeline? | ||
| Will they find a spaceship down there? | ||
| Ooh, Joe, now we're getting into it. | ||
| Well, that was one of the things that Lazar said. | ||
| Is that one of the vehicles was a part of an archaeological dig. | ||
| They found it in an archaeological dig. | ||
| But not in Antarctica. | ||
| No. | ||
| It was in North America, right? | ||
| He didn't say where. | ||
| He didn't say where. | ||
| But he said one of the ships, they recovered from an archaeological dig. | ||
| And they think these things have been around for a long, long, long time. | ||
| The people that work with them, like Diana Posolka, who wrote, what was it, Encounters? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| She said that they refer to them as donations. | ||
| These crashed UFOs, they don't even necessarily think of them as crashed. | ||
| They think they kind of like let it crash. | ||
| They're donations for us to back engineer. | ||
| That we're supposed to take them and go figure this out. | ||
| And that this is something that helps our technological evolution. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that point to the creation of fiber optics, that it all kind of happened right after Roswell. | ||
| There's these descriptions of fiber optics that existed in the crafts they found at Roswell. | ||
| So they're looking at us like we're looking at the orangutan. | ||
| Yeah, here's a stick. | ||
| Go fish with that stick. | ||
| I mean, that would be a good way to accelerate technologies, to just introduce something to them and go back-engineer that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Figure that out. | ||
| I mean, is that how we do it now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's what Lazar had said they were doing with him in Area 51, in S4. He was saying, but they didn't know exactly how these things worked. | ||
| They didn't know how to recreate it, and they wouldn't let the scientists talk to other scientists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's like, science doesn't exist in a vacuum like that. | ||
| You need a collaborative effort of a bunch of different people. | ||
| And also different scientists that were working on the thing weren't allowed to talk to each other. | ||
| That's a military thing, right? | ||
| For privacy? | ||
| Yes, a compartmentalization thing. | ||
| Yeah, for top secret clearance. | ||
| But he was the guy that was saying that they were also telling him that we are a farm of souls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is the thing that the people that know about it say you can't tell people because they would freak out. | ||
| There'd be riots in the streets. | ||
| Someone just recently said something like that. | ||
| It was one of the recent conversations between some top official. | ||
| They were saying if real disclosure happened and people knew exactly what was going on, there'd be riots. | ||
| People would be freaking out. | ||
| I think we'd be okay now. | ||
| Well, who knows? | ||
| If we found out that we really are just vessels for souls, and that we're being farmed by some super-intelligent species that we will eventually become... | ||
| The farm thing is tricky, but that we're being groomed to become this super-intelligent species, and it takes time, and we have to get there slowly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| I like the theory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That tracks that you would just kind of let us figure it out and let us go. | ||
| And go just in the right direction. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And that the aliens would show up once we started detonating nukes. | ||
| Because it's like, whoa, whoa, that's a different direction. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, guys, stop that. | ||
| Don't do that anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can do all your nonsense and do all your regular conventional warfare, but as soon as you start going atomic, we're going to start talking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're going to let you know. | ||
| You're not the boss. | ||
| Quite benevolent, these aliens, huh? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, also maybe recognize that this process has to take place and you can't hold their hand, you know? | ||
| Teach a man to fish. | ||
| He'll fish for the rest of his life. | ||
| Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Teach him. | ||
| You might meet him one day, Joe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You might meet him one day. | ||
| I might already have to meet him. | ||
| Will we believe you? | ||
| Uh, don't believe me. | ||
| I'll lie. | ||
| It's the one thing I'll lie about. | ||
| I don't lie about anything. | ||
| I will lie to everybody about that. | ||
| Joe's already met him. | ||
| That means he's already met him. | ||
| I don't know shit. | ||
| I think it's all fake. | ||
| It's all Russian propaganda. | ||
| We need to support Ukraine. | ||
| Meanwhile, there's fucking things in this room with us right now, observing from other dimensions. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Yeah, just making sure we're on the general path towards technological progression, which is what eventually gives birth to it. | ||
| So they're... | ||
| They're us. | ||
| Yeah, but they're... | ||
| They're what every intelligent species eventually becomes. | ||
| Eventually becomes, but they're basically on a further timeline. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they're influencing their own timeline. | ||
| They're influencing a similar species to evolve to hit their level of technological sophistication. | ||
| And they feel like that is their... | ||
| Their duty? | ||
| I think that's just what happens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's probably what happens in the universe, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, when we go to visit primitive societies, we bring the wells. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| We start creating electricity for them. | ||
| We teach them how to farm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| It just makes sense that they would do that. | ||
| Especially if they're beyond advanced. | ||
| Like, incomprehensibly more advanced than we are. | ||
| They would slowly help us do it right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And stop us from making catastrophic errors. | ||
| And we're fun. | ||
| We're like dogs in a way. | ||
| Like, dogs are fun. | ||
| You want to teach them how to sit and shit outside. | ||
| Also, like, look at them go. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Look at these people. | ||
| We create some good stuff. | ||
| Yeah, look at them making drones and shit. | ||
| This is wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look what they're doing. | ||
| Railguns and shit. | ||
| Look at these psychos. | ||
| Hypersonic jets. | ||
| Look at them go! | ||
| And still cage fighting. | ||
| Yeah, we've got it all. | ||
| Still slap fighting. | ||
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We've got the whole... | |
| Slap fighting. | ||
| Slap fighting is like, that's the bottom. | ||
| When that comes onto the alien's desk. | ||
| Wait, they're doing what? | ||
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Slap. | |
| They can't defend each other. | ||
| They have to stand there. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Do they know about brain damage? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The people that host it also host MMA. Yeah. | ||
| They know everything about brain damage. | ||
| And they just say, look, sign up at the dotted line. | ||
| You can ride a bull. | ||
| You can fuck a dirt bike ride. | ||
| You can get slapped. | ||
| You can do whatever you want in this country. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's probably what the aliens are like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| They probably look at slap fighting and go, oh my God. | ||
| Someone's trying to tell them not to do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| America's like, the way that we look at Trump, they look at America. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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We're like, the guy's fucking crazy, but he's funny as hell. | |
| That's them. | ||
| They're just looking at us like, they invented what? | ||
| What a bunch of psychos. | ||
| And maybe all advancing civilizations are psychos. | ||
| Maybe they all eventually have to become integrated with technology to escape the boundaries and the walls that are set up by their biology. | ||
| Because your biology has allowed you through in a natural environment to achieve a place where you could be detached from the natural environment with cities and buildings and structures and electricity and power and technology and weapons. | ||
| And weapons that allow soft, fleshy water balloons filled with blood to go out there and kill grizzly bears from 100 yards. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| And you stand next to them, look at me, look what I did. | ||
| It's wild, but it seems like that is the only way you get to be sophisticated enough to create technology. | ||
| You have to have controlled your environment enough where you've stopped all the enemies, stopped all the predators. | ||
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Egypt. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, in order to build those pyramids, you need a long time of safety. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't build them at the same time that you're at war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're being attacked, there's famine, there's no water. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You need long... | ||
| Thousands of years. | ||
| ...safe and food and abundance, and then you need a thing for people to do so they don't kill each other. | ||
| Keep them busy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Keep them busy. | ||
| Build. | ||
| Keep them from fighting over power. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What if it was that simple? | ||
| Who knows what it was with those folks? | ||
| Because I think they were probably more sophisticated than we are today. | ||
| It's just the only thing that makes sense to me, that they were able to get these multiple-ton stones down from the mountains with no road system. | ||
| The tricky, what is it, the Aswan Valley that they got the stones from for the pyramids in Giza. | ||
| That is a really tricky thing to consider. | ||
| It's all tricky. | ||
| Some of them were from 500 miles away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were 80 tons. | ||
| They got them out of the mountains. | ||
| They moved them down. | ||
| They cut them perfectly. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| How'd they do it? | ||
| What are the machines? | ||
| What was the technology? | ||
| Was it no technology? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Is it just based on what? | ||
| Our understanding currently of what happened 12,000 years ago, which is not that good? | ||
| No, we have like a piecemeal understanding, like a very like just minute understanding of what was possible back then based on the evidence of the result of what was possible, which is the pyramids, which is bananas. | ||
| And we're also trying to explain it with theories that we've kind of accepted to be fact that are really not that much. | ||
| Like this idea that it was all done with like the chisels and stones. | ||
| I don't necessarily subscribe to that. | ||
| Yeah, it says who? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All they would have to do is find one piece of machinery that didn't exist before they could understand. | ||
| And they found things before that they didn't know existed, and they couldn't understand. | ||
| Like, what is that mechanism? | ||
| The antitheric... | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| There was a computer that they found. | ||
| This computer and gears. | ||
| It was in a Roman ship that sank to the bottom of the ocean. | ||
| The Antikythera. | ||
| Antikythera mechanism. | ||
| So this thing... | ||
| It's an ancient Greek... | ||
| Go back to that, please, so I can read that. | ||
| It's an ancient Greek hand-powered orrery, a model of the solar system described as the oldest known example of Of an analog computer. | ||
| It's used to predict astronomical positions and eclipses decades in advance. | ||
| It also could be used to track the four-year cycle of antithetic games. | ||
| Athletic games. | ||
| Make it a little larger. | ||
| Athletic games simpler to the Olympiad. | ||
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Wow. | |
| The cycle of the ancient Olympic Games. | ||
| The artifact was among the wreckage retrieved from a shipwreck off the coast of the Greek island of Antikythera in 1901. In 1902, it was identified by archaeologist Valerios Staius as containing a gear. | ||
| The device housed in the remains of a wooden frame case of uncertain overall size 34 centimeters by 18 centimeters by 9 centimeters Was found as one lump later separated into three main fragments which are now divided into 82 separate fragments after conservation efforts for these fragments contain gears while inscriptions are found on many others the largest gears about 13 centimeters in diameter and originally had 223 teeth | ||
| All these fragments of the mechanisms are kept at the National Archaeological Museum in Athens, along with the reconstructions and replicas to demonstrate how it may have looked and worked. | ||
| See if you can find what the replica of what it looked like. | ||
| So they had to sort of figure out how the fuck did they do this? | ||
| How did they know this? | ||
| What's involved in this? | ||
| Was this ancient technology that existed a long time ago that they had preserved and held onto? | ||
| When was the creation of that thing? | ||
| So there's things that we know that we didn't think that they could do that sort of really throw a monkey wrench to our understanding. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's just one. | ||
| That's just one that they found. | ||
| I mean, there could have been stuff from thousands of years before that that just doesn't exist anymore. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, you deal with erosion, you deal with time, and especially over thousands of years, 12,000 years. | ||
| Boy, you have nothing left. | ||
| There's no evidence of whatever these machines were. | ||
| It would be interesting to study, like... | ||
| What happened to technology during the medieval age? | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| During the Black Plague? | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| Medieval Ages? | ||
| Was that the term? | ||
| Yeah, but during the plague. | ||
| During the plague, right? | ||
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Where... | |
| Was there an erosion of intellectual property? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because people are dying off. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| People are dying off. | ||
| And do the physicists die? | ||
| Because we always talk about this. | ||
| What happened when all the physicists died? | ||
| What happened when all the scientists died? | ||
| So was there an erosion? | ||
| Was there a step back in our ability to create things during that period? | ||
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That's a good question. | |
| And if there was something that was even worse than that that happened throughout history, i.e. | ||
| like an asteroid or something in the earth, well, that erosion would just be 10 times worse. | ||
| 100 times worse. | ||
| But I'd like to look into that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you still see great works of art that happened during the mid-A... Is it medieval? | ||
| Medieval ages? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You see these great cathedrals go up. | ||
| So there still were, I would imagine, they were maintaining their ability to create these great structures. | ||
| Right, but there had to be a dip in productivity. | ||
| So let's see what that dip is, and then multiply it by the catastrophe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I think people were just, like, knocked back into the Stone Age. | ||
| I think that's probably what happened. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And that's why you see the emergence of written language and all these different things from Mesopotamia. | ||
| Like, that's 6,000 years later, after the impacts, probably. | ||
| So it took that amount of time to recover. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And build back the knowledge set. | ||
| And keep in mind, like, the knowledge set isn't maintained with the efficiency that we have it now, right? | ||
| Like, you get a couple books that get destroyed, and there is physics gone, chemistry gone. | ||
| That's the library of Alexandria. | ||
| They burned the library of Alexandria, and everybody's like, what happened? | ||
| Yeah, that was the knowledge. | ||
| Take a guess. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, how'd they build this shit? | ||
| Oh, we've burned it. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is vulnerable. | ||
| We take it for granted. | ||
| It is incredibly vulnerable. | ||
| Oh man, we're even more vulnerable now because everything's on hard drives. | ||
| You know, so all it takes is the power going off and we're fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And how long would it take before the power gets back on? | ||
| Boy, asteroid impacts, kills the whole grid, everyone's knocked into the Stone Age for a couple hundred years. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bro, you ain't getting into them hard drives. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're never going to figure it out. | ||
| And all the hard drives will rot. | ||
| The moisture in the air, the erosion, they'll slowly evaporate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if somebody handed you a hard drive 2,000 years later, you would just think it was a piece of plastic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have no clue that all the information- It'd be a lump. | ||
| How about that thing? | ||
| That thing was just a lump of- We don't know what the fuck that does. | ||
| It was all corroded and fucked up. | ||
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They don't know what it is. | |
| It's the only one they've ever found, I think, I'm reading. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, how many of them were there? | ||
| It wasn't the only one. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They probably had a bunch of them. | ||
| They probably had even better ones. | ||
| That's the question they're saying. | ||
| Like, what if it was the only one? | ||
| It's a fucking mystery, baby. | ||
| We love it. | ||
| But it's a fun time. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| It's a fun time to be alive. | ||
| As chaotic as it is, this is a really fun time to be alive. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Alright, my brother. | ||
| I love you to death. | ||
| You're the man. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Thanks for being here. | ||
| I'm so happy to see you killing it. | ||
| It's beautiful to watch. | ||
| Thank you for everything, bro. | ||
| You're out there crushing it. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| You're on top of it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Anything to tell anybody? | ||
| Go check out. | ||
| If you want to come check out the tour, that'd be great. | ||
| Life tour. | ||
| We're coming to Austin, actually. | ||
| When are you coming? | ||
| April 16th, I think, or something like that. | ||
| Doing the Moody. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| That'd be awesome. | ||
| Come out to that. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
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My brother. | |
| Thank you. |
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