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March 23, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2124 - Dave Attell & Ian Fidance
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joe rogan
Gentlemen, good to see you.
dave attell
Joe, thanks for having us.
ian fidance
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
Thanks for coming to town.
Everybody's very excited.
dave attell
I'm excited, dude.
Playing the club.
Had to bring in Ian.
Super fan of the show.
joe rogan
Thanks, Ian.
I'm a fan of you, dude.
You're a funny motherfucker.
ian fidance
Thank you, bro.
It means a lot.
Appreciate it.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
ian fidance
I'm excited to be at the club, man.
It's the fucking best.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm excited to have you guys.
Everybody's been pumped.
We're pumped.
dave attell
It's a stroke fest.
But you know what, Joe?
I'm in town for the club to hang with you and also to promote a special.
What do you think?
joe rogan
Yay!
dave attell
Only I bring one out every other election year.
I know.
I don't have the turnaround you have, man.
You're good.
joe rogan
It's okay.
When you put them out, they're fucking magic.
Skanks for the Memories is still one of my all-time favorite comedy albums.
It's a fucking classic.
dave attell
It's weird when you, I'm sure you have this, where a fan comes up to you and they repeat one of your most horrific jokes, you know, like, hey man, those titties ain't...
I'm like, whoa!
Say it in a corner.
Not here.
joe rogan
You know what happens to me sometimes?
People bring up bits that I totally forgot.
dave attell
Oh, true.
joe rogan
I'm like, oh my god, how does that go?
I'll have to ask them.
dave attell
How does it go?
unidentified
Oh yeah!
joe rogan
What was it on?
dave attell
Yup.
That's what it is, man.
It's all a blur.
joe rogan
But we're old.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
David, we're old now.
dave attell
My mom's been in the hospital, right?
I went in there and people thought I was the patient.
I was sitting in the room with her and they kept coming over to me.
I'm like, her, her.
I wish it was a joke.
It's not.
joe rogan
I've known you for at least 30 years.
dave attell
For sure.
Well, it looks better on you than on me, so that's for sure.
That's why I brought in my intern to take some of the slack up.
ian fidance
Wait, you guys are the same age?
dave attell
I'm older than you.
I'm older than you.
joe rogan
How old are you?
dave attell
59. I'm 56. Okay, well there you go.
See?
Three years ago I looked like that.
Now I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened to me.
joe rogan
It's all about the maintenance.
dave attell
Well yeah, you put the time in.
joe rogan
You gotta keep that maintenance up.
I saw it coming a long time ago though.
I saw it coming like in my 30s.
dave attell
Yeah, but you never were like this.
I mean like you never were.
joe rogan
No, I never let myself go.
I never let myself go.
I'm terrified of it.
dave attell
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because I've been injured before.
I've had a bunch of surgeries.
I know what it's like to have things not work good.
I'm like, oh, you've got to do everything you can to make sure the fucking wheels are still on the machine.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you don't, we all know guys like Patrice.
We lost Patrice.
We all know guys who don't take care of themselves and fucking shit just starts breaking.
They just start falling apart.
dave attell
I'm glad you brought up Patrice because we've lost a lot of greats.
Patrice is the one a lot of people like, you know, super fans always bring up Patrice.
What would he do in the age of Ozimpic?
What do you think?
joe rogan
Uh...
I don't think he would go along with it.
dave attell
I could see him putting it on like a cheeseburger or something.
joe rogan
He just was not into it.
I don't give a fuck category.
He's not going to do it.
Brian Simpson got on it for a little while.
It was terrible for him.
dave attell
Really?
joe rogan
He had a terrible reaction.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
And I taught those guys how to eat better.
I'm like, just stop eating all the bullshit, and you'd be amazed at how much better you feel.
dave attell
What do you think is bullshit, like, in these times?
joe rogan
Bread and carbs.
dave attell
Really?
joe rogan
Not all carbs.
Like, vegetables are fantastic for you.
I'm not one of those people that thinks that...
You should be on any particular diet, because I think diets are different for every person.
Some people, vegetarian, vegan, they're fine.
Some people, they fall apart.
You gotta figure out what the fuck is right for you.
But for everybody, sugar.
For everybody.
dave attell
Even sweetener.
No good?
joe rogan
Well, like artificial sweetener.
That kills you, you're a fucking pussy.
Diet Coke takes you out.
unidentified
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
I'm not flayed of xylitol.
I think that it's fucking pasta and bread for a lot of people.
I know it is for me.
I over consume calories when I eat that stuff.
Because it's so wonderful to stuff in your fat face.
Lasagna or something.
dave attell
When's the last time you had a piece of cake?
joe rogan
I'll do it every now and then.
Once a week or something like that.
I give myself a day where I don't give a shit.
I'll eat pizza.
ian fidance
What is Carbo Loader?
Aren't you supposed to do a bunch of that before you do a race or you ride?
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of guys do that.
You'd have to talk to endurance athletes about that, but essentially they're just taking in a lot of carbohydrates before ultramarathons and things like that.
And then they also have gels.
They have these carb gels they'll squirt in their mouth while they're running.
Yeah, they're just all about performance.
Those folks are all about just trying to squeeze out another Two or three minutes in a 100-mile race.
ian fidance
That's crazy.
I ride a bike in New York City, so I eat a ton of pasta and I'm riding three miles.
I'm like, I got a carbo load.
unidentified
This is important.
joe rogan
Bud, that's a fucking workout, though.
Boy, that's so good for your health, except for the fact that you're breathing in brake dust.
dave attell
I think that's the least of it in New York.
It's kind of like you're driving through a zombie horde.
You're peddling and you're also basically like, away!
joe rogan
I thought about wearing armor.
dave attell
George of the Light Brigade.
ian fidance
I have used my bike chain as, like, a mace.
Oh, yeah.
dave attell
He's got some great tangles, by the way.
joe rogan
Is it that bad down there?
dave attell
Oh, yeah.
ian fidance
I mean, you gotta learn...
Sometimes you have to pop off Because cars will turn and they act like you don't exist.
So you gotta yell and everything.
And a lot of these guys, especially since the pandemic, because everything's food delivery, so they all go down the wrong way.
They're all buzzing around you on the side.
It's terrible.
And this guy caught me on a bad one.
I was having a bad day and he was coming at me.
I was like, wrong way, asshole.
And he came up, got in front of me, stopped, and was like, asshole, you're an asshole!
And he smacked my coffee out of my hand.
dave attell
A white guy?
ian fidance
Yeah, it was white.
That's why I said something.
dave attell
That southern drawl really gave it away.
joe rogan
He sounds like a really privileged guy from the suburbs.
ian fidance
No, if it was someone from the Bronx, I would have been like, fair enough.
Good for you, sir.
I'm wrong.
joe rogan
So he climbed out, smacked your coffee.
ian fidance
Yeah, and I spit in his face and then I went down and then he came up again and took his phone out and started to tape me and I was like, you're a fucking pussy, you fucking snitch.
And I took my chain and I was like, you want to be fucking tough?
Let's be tough!
And he was like, crazy!
And I rode away and I went, welcome to New York!
There's a whole crowd of people watching.
dave attell
That's coming from the guy who just saw Ghostbusters how many times?
This guy is a Ghostbuster nut.
He's a fanatic.
joe rogan
He was probably coached.
If anyone gives you a hard time, you'll fim.
dave attell
Oh, yeah.
ian fidance
Fim them.
joe rogan
Shame them.
You don't like immigrants.
ian fidance
Oh, yeah.
Well, no.
He was French.
That was a terrible French accent.
dave attell
I didn't get that at all.
I didn't get that at all on that one.
ian fidance
No, no, no.
I made him sound Uzbeki, but he was French.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you've got to be careful fighting people from other countries.
They play by different rules.
dave attell
That's true.
ian fidance
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
You know, you're with a guy, you're tangling, and all of a sudden he pulls out a snake.
I got a poisonous viper on me.
You know who told me that?
This guy I knew from Malaysia.
He said, you know, in Malaysia, you know, you go to a bar, and these guys have these rings that are dipped in poison.
So, like, you know, you'd be with a guy, and all of a sudden he'll, like, on the back, like that, and they're like, ow, what was that?
Like a pinprick?
unidentified
And then you're dead.
dave attell
And then you're dead, like a day later.
ian fidance
No.
dave attell
It's a Malaysian hello.
Yeah.
ian fidance
Like those spears dipped in shit in Vietnam?
dave attell
Something like that.
joe rogan
You could probably survive the spear dipped in shit before you could survive the poison.
dave attell
Yeah, but I was like, Malaysia, wow.
Tough scene over there.
Well, Ian is, you know, what was I going to say?
Like, we've been working together for a long time.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
And he's sober, too.
You know, so I'm sorry.
This is kind of like a bore.
But, you know, the sober life on the road is not very cool.
You know, the chain smoking and the coffee.
That's pretty much it.
ian fidance
We go on adventures.
dave attell
We do.
ian fidance
Daytime sober adventures.
joe rogan
What do you think it would be like?
Sober, no coffee, no cigarettes.
dave attell
Oh, I can tell you right now.
Suicide.
My plane was delayed, and I hadn't had a coffee in 12 hours.
I got that weird headache, you know what I'm talking about?
It was like from the front all the way to the back, and I was like, that's coffee withdrawal right there.
ian fidance
Well, you also don't drink water.
dave attell
Yeah, water is for, yeah.
joe rogan
You only drink coffee?
dave attell
Pretty much, yeah.
Dehydration is mine.
ian fidance
Yeah, I'm like, here's a water, David.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ian fidance
He just doesn't want it.
dave attell
Oh my god, it's really, yeah, that's like the least you can do for your body, and I'm like, nah, I don't think so.
ian fidance
Well, those connecting flights are hell when you can't smoke cigarettes.
It's like an eight-hour connecting flight, then you gotta smoke in the family bathroom at the airport.
dave attell
There's only one airport where you can smoke, and that's Vegas, I think.
joe rogan
Is that the only one that has a booth?
dave attell
It has that weird, yeah, like...
joe rogan
That coffin room?
dave attell
Yeah, that kind of...
ian fidance
Can you smoke in the Nashville airport, too?
dave attell
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Bro, that is the wildest thing they ever did.
Give you a box where you can do drugs in.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Just there's a...
Get in there.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's gonna fuck up everybody else, so get in there so you don't fuck it up for everybody else.
unidentified
Get your little cage.
dave attell
Live it up.
unidentified
Little rat.
Well, the crazy thing is you used to be able to smoke on the fucking plane.
Yes.
joe rogan
I remember it clearly when I was a kid.
Dice used to have a bit about it.
The smoking section!
Really?
unidentified
We're on a fucking tube!
joe rogan
It's all the same air!
They had a fucking smoking section.
I tried doing that joke today.
People are like, what?
Smoking on a plane?
ian fidance
Even smoking jokes.
People are like, what are you talking about?
dave attell
I thought smoking was back.
I thought all the scenesters, the posers are into smoking cigarettes now because vaping became too mainstream.
That's what I've heard in New York, like smoking in a restaurant, smoking in a bar somewhere.
It's kind of like a retro, kind of a look how cool I am.
joe rogan
Well, it's trading the moment for the future.
dave attell
True, that is true.
But I was just in a hospital with old people.
There's not much future.
joe rogan
You want that moment.
You trade that moment for like a decay.
A certain amount of decay you're going to experience in your future.
ian fidance
Yeah, I'll take it.
You've got to live in the moment.
joe rogan
Sure, until you can't.
dave attell
Well, I'm telling you, I was just around a lot of old people.
Like the woman next to my mom in the hospital, 100 years old.
ian fidance
No.
dave attell
And she was no Betty White, by the way.
It was like, we peeked through the curtain.
It's like, hi!
And it was just like eyes over an oxygen mask glaring at us.
Like, whoa, okay, we get it.
I'll see you at the hardware store in heaven.
unidentified
She was done.
joe rogan
She was done.
dave attell
You're going to live forever.
I mean, we all know that.
joe rogan
That's not possible.
ian fidance
Come on.
joe rogan
No one's living forever.
But my goal is just to stay healthy.
Just keep it moving.
unidentified
Keep it moving.
joe rogan
Make sure it moves good.
dave attell
Would you eventually segue from a less strenuous workout, you know what I'm saying, like when you get older?
joe rogan
Not unless I have to.
dave attell
Like a Tai Chi in a park?
Nothing like that?
joe rogan
I get to do a Tai Chi in a park.
Tai Chi in a park makes it look like you read a lot.
You know, you're like really into esoteric things.
dave attell
True.
joe rogan
You're out there moving slow in the park, doing an ancient kung fu.
dave attell
In New York, that's called methadone.
People just like in their own like world.
joe rogan
I used to go to this pool hall and the methadone clinic was right down the street.
And so my friend Johnny used to call them the methadonians.
They'd come in, they'd get their dose and they'd just come in and play pool and they were like...
That's the best.
For sure, they were high.
This idea that methadone is like, that's what stops you from using heroin.
Right, right.
But it also gets you high, right?
dave attell
Yeah, I know guys who are addicted to methadone.
And what I was going to say, that you can take with just a pill, right?
Isn't that what that is?
ian fidance
You can drink it, too.
unidentified
You can?
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
Wow.
ian fidance
And suboxone is the same thing.
joe rogan
I had a guy come in and explain that on the podcast once.
He actually ran a clinic at one point in time, and he was explaining how they're just getting you hooked on these other things, and these other things also get you high.
dave attell
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you done it before?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Suboxone?
ian fidance
No, no.
But, I mean, it's just like...
joe rogan
I've heard mixed reviews, though.
Some people say it doesn't do that to you.
ian fidance
Well, I mean, it's like whatever gets you off the thing that's killing you, you know, it's like harm reduction, but eventually you've got to get off that if you want to be, like, totally sober.
joe rogan
My understanding is that methadone is just as bad, if not worse, for you.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I don't think it's good for you.
ian fidance
I mean, my cousin's on it.
She's doing great.
dave attell
Well, there you go.
What more do you need?
joe rogan
I think Dr. Carl Hart told me.
I think that the problem with fucking any opiates is your body develops a tolerance, and then you go rush Limbaugh.
Rush was taking like 99 pills a day or something crazy.
He went deaf from it, supposedly.
ian fidance
Jesus Christ.
dave attell
I didn't know that about him.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Homeboy was going hard.
He was made by him.
You know, just like, excellence in broadcasting.
I just imagined him just fucking blasted out of his mind.
90. Wandering around his house.
ian fidance
Yelling the most horrific things.
joe rogan
On opiates.
It's kind of the life.
Rubberband around his balls.
unidentified
Just fucking out to lunch.
joe rogan
Painkillers may have caused Limbaugh's deafness.
dave attell
Why?
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Could a common painkiller, taken in massive quantities by the way, contributed to Rush Limbaugh's well-known hearing loss?
Research findings suggest that the radio talk show host apparent addiction to Vicodin could be the culprit behind his mysterious attack of deafness two years ago Doctors over the past several years have reported dozens of cases of Vicodin addicts who become deaf and in some cases only regain their hearing with the help of cochlear implants such as the one Received by Limbaugh.
It's pretty clear that there's an association, says Dr. Jeffrey Harris, an ear specialist at the University of California San Diego Medical School.
The ear is sensitive to drugs, and this particular association with Vicodin has become more relevant as people are getting their hands on it as a recreational drug.
How many did he take at the height of his pilliness?
Find that because I think it was really nutty.
I think he was in the 90s.
dave attell
A day?
joe rogan
A day.
ian fidance
I took 90 in a week and I was flying high.
I can't imagine a day.
joe rogan
I believe it was Vicodin that I took once.
When I had knee surgery.
I was like, I'd rather be in pain.
I feel so stupid.
But then I had a buddy of mine who was a musician, and he said he would take it and it would really help with his creativity when he's writing songs.
dave attell
Really?
Wow.
ian fidance
Sounds like an excuse.
joe rogan
But I think it's a thing.
Well, definitely a crutch, right?
But I think it's a thing where it's different for different people.
Like for Stanhope, weed is horrific.
dave attell
Yeah.
No, he's not a weed guy.
joe rogan
He can't do it.
dave attell
He's an OG drunk.
joe rogan
Right.
But for me, weed is like, this is wonderful.
I love it.
Everything's great.
But I just think it's...
I think the diversity of how the differences in people's chemistry is very underappreciated in terms of tolerance to food, in terms of...
How much you can exercise, what kind of diseases you're gonna get.
It's biodiversity, man.
ian fidance
Well, you gotta try it to find out.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're all fucking different.
Any one-size-fits-all, get the fuck out of here with that.
That doesn't work with people.
We're so different.
We're almost like a bunch of different species all smushed up together.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
When I had a shoulder surgery, they gave me a pain blocker.
Have you ever had one of those?
joe rogan
No.
dave attell
It lasts about 12 hours, and it just blocks the nerve.
joe rogan
Oh, I have when I had surgery.
dave attell
Yeah, when I had surgery.
So I'm like, why hasn't that gotten recreational?
Because it was awesome.
I was walking around like, I don't even feel like I had surgery.
joe rogan
Is it an epidural where they go into your spine?
Is that what you're saying?
dave attell
No, no.
They just put something on it, I think.
No, no, no.
You're right.
It was in me, and then it dissolved or something like that.
joe rogan
No, with an epidural, it's like a spine block.
dave attell
Okay.
joe rogan
So they do it.
It's like if you want to be conscious.
Like I was conscious when I got my knee operated on.
So they basically paralyzed me below the waist.
dave attell
Wow, that's scary.
joe rogan
And then it was wild.
ian fidance
Why would you want that?
joe rogan
I wanted to see it.
Because I wanted to see what the surgery looked like.
I wanted to see my knee being pulled apart and screwed in together.
Like they said I could watch it.
ian fidance
Couldn't you just watch it later?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Well, this was 1990, whatever it was.
And so, you know, I said, what are the options?
And the doctor said, well, most people, we just put them under.
I go, but why would you not put them under?
And he said, because sometimes people want to be awake.
And I said, well, what happens if you're awake?
Like, can I watch?
And he's like, yeah.
And I go, okay, let's do that.
I want to see it.
dave attell
So you could talk and everything while you were doing it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I could.
dave attell
Wow.
ian fidance
And you didn't feel any panic?
joe rogan
Mm-mm.
No, it was interesting.
It was interesting because I didn't feel any pain, so I was watching the doctor screw it in and hammer it and fucking...
dave attell
Oh, man.
I was like, woof!
ian fidance
Did at any point where you're like, am I dead?
joe rogan
No.
No.
No, the doctor was awesome.
ian fidance
It wasn't out of body?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Because you're essentially sitting there.
I think the way I was seeing it was on a monitor, if I remember correctly.
I think they had a cotton shield in front of me, and my legs were there, and then I was looking up at a monitor, if I remember correctly.
It's a long time ago.
It's hard to remember.
dave attell
And you didn't get sick.
joe rogan
But I do remember him manipulating my leg and moving it around.
It was fucked.
I didn't have an ACL. Wow.
And it's a pretty serious operation because they have to take a piece of your patella tendon with a chunk of bone from your shin and a chunk of bone from your kneecap and they pull that out and then they put it inside your knee and screw it in place.
dave attell
Wow.
Just the sounds alone would have creeped me out.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you hear the bone crunching because the fucking screw is going into it, you're like, I want him to knock me out at the dentist.
ian fidance
I can't imagine ACL surgery.
joe rogan
And then afterwards he was manipulating it too.
Like afterwards, I was watching him move it around.
dave attell
And what was the recovery on that?
Like how long?
joe rogan
It took a long time.
dave attell
I'm sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a long one because there's so much trauma going on there.
I think that took like a year before my knee felt normal.
dave attell
The knee is harder than the shoulder, right?
joe rogan
No, the shoulder's very hard.
Very hard.
Because the shoulder moves all over the place.
dave attell
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
This is the only thing I could find.
When he was arrested, they had over 2,000 plus painkillers in his system.
dave attell
In his system or on them?
jamie vernon
His housekeeper claims that he did over 30 oxys a day.
joe rogan
But that's oxys.
That's not Vicodin.
dave attell
See, that's what they gave me after my surgery.
jamie vernon
He had hydrocodone, Loracet.
Oh, he had everything!
Norcan.
He had a few things.
joe rogan
Oh, which hydrocodone can cause hearing loss, it says.
Wow.
Imagine, like, what a hell that is, too, when you're a guy who has headphones on for a living.
And your pill thing is so wacky.
dave attell
You can't stop.
joe rogan
It's so wacky you can't stop, to the point where your fucking hearing goes away.
ian fidance
Yeah, but you're feeling so good, just with that oxy itch and everything, and then one day you can't hear.
What a nightmare.
joe rogan
I don't think you're feeling good, dude.
dave attell
But he's probably got like five doctors to write those scripts like that because, I mean, honestly, isn't it illegal to like...
joe rogan
Well, he was living in Florida.
dave attell
Oh, that's during the pill mill.
Yeah.
ian fidance
That's like the pill mill.
dave attell
That's a great doc on Netflix that the guys were making all that money just selling like fake, you know, like it was just like anybody, people coming in at Kentucky, like, hey, I got a, I got a bursitis.
Okay, here you go.
joe rogan
That's my friend Mariana Van Zeller.
It's the Oxycontin Express.
That lady, that lady's a gangster.
But she exposed the whole thing where they don't have a database.
So you can go from one place.
They're basically pain management centers.
Do you remember those?
dave attell
Yeah, it's all done now.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Okay, Mr. Limbaugh and I have maintained from the start that there was no doctor shopping, and when we continue to hold this position, Mr. Black said, I love how he says that just that way.
Like, he's giving up the fact that he's playing a game.
unidentified
We continue to hold this position.
joe rogan
You're playing a chess game!
You're literally, like, saying it in what you're saying.
There's no doctor shopping.
I don't know what you're talking about!
dave attell
But maybe back, like he had to be doing this for years and years and years, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, if he's getting 2,000 pills, you're going doctor shopping.
Or you're buying it from a drug dealer.
It's one of those two options.
ian fidance
Yeah, but when you have endless money, you just buy on any doctor.
joe rogan
So what you do is you go to the pain management center.
You go and you say, I'm in pain.
And they go, oh, we'll write you a prescription for drugs.
And you go right next door to a pharmacy that only sells Oxycontin.
It was the Oxycontin Express.
And then they would buy them from one doctor and go to another doctor, and they would just get bags of pills, fill their trunk up, and drive to Kentucky.
ian fidance
Yeah, and it was off 95, so they would just go from Florida up to Philly, Delaware, New York, Baltimore.
unidentified
Bro, how many cars made that trip before they started figuring out what was going on?
joe rogan
And the pharmaceutical drug companies knew it, so they just kept selling it.
There was some nutty statistic at one point in time.
Where Florida had like 1,000 times more people who had been dropped than anywhere else in the world.
I'm making that number up, but it was some nutty number where you're like, what in fucking God's name are you people doing?
How is that not like an anomaly?
It just shows up like this one state has an insane amount of prescription.
Like, is there some pain in that state?
unidentified
Maybe we should move people out of that fucking state.
dave attell
We've got the blues.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
Kentucky.
Bluegrass.
No, but I like the parking lot.
Did you see in the documentary the most vagrant, just redneck, just basically screeching around?
And then the doctors themselves were armed because they were so afraid.
joe rogan
Oh, those doctors are dealing with zombies.
If somebody runs dry of money and no one wants their dick sucked, you're going to get jumped.
dave attell
I mean, definitely on the way out.
It's like In-N-Out in Oakland.
I mean, it's anybody's...
ian fidance
Jesus Christ.
There's a book called Dreamland that talks about the pill crisis and everything and how it started with black tar heroin coming in from Naira, Mexico and everything.
And there were houses in Ohio that people would line up with stolen goods and trade chainsaws for pills.
And then they would take those goods from Home Depot and sell them back to make more money to buy pills.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ian fidance
Like a pill economy.
dave attell
I don't know what to say.
joe rogan
You know, there's many wars connected to that too.
The conspiracies about Vietnam always had something to do with heroin.
And the conspiracy about Afghanistan...
ian fidance
Oh, with the opium?
joe rogan
We were guarding opium fields.
We were guarding poppy fields.
The United States troops were guarding poppy fields.
And they had Geraldo Rivera go over there to gaslight America about it.
And they played it on TV. Now tell me, why are you guarding this heroin?
unidentified
Well, we have to guard the heroin, otherwise the local people won't like us.
ian fidance
Like, oh, makes sense.
joe rogan
Back to you, tetan!
ian fidance
That they had to do it from the Taliban or something?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that was how...
What's the truth and what's the story are two very different things.
They were fucking selling heroin!
Heroin production went up after we invaded by some fucking insane number.
And then these guys are like, we need you to guard this heroin.
ian fidance
Of course!
joe rogan
We're here to guard it!
So they send fucking soldiers over there to guard heroin.
Look at Geraldo's big fucking silly smile.
Hi, everybody!
I'm in a war!
With a big smile!
Silly this.
He's trying to...
The smile is to let everybody know that everything's fine.
This is nothing to be concerned with.
ian fidance
And this is right around the time when opium and Oxycontin was just flowing in the country.
joe rogan
But look at even the way he's performatively shaking this guy's hand in front of the camera like he hasn't met this guy before.
The whole thing is such a fucking charade.
Fighting the opium trade by guarding the heroin!
Imagine the fucking gaslighting, fighting the opium trade while guarding the heroin field so that they can make heroin.
The poppy fields only make heroin.
There's no tomatoes in there.
How are you fighting the opium trade by guarding the heroin and ensuring the production?
It grinds at your gut.
unidentified
How do you deal with it?
joe rogan
What are you doing about it?
Well, frankly, this is part of their culture.
unidentified
So while it might grind in my gut, it's what they do.
We provide them security, we're providing them resources, and we're providing them alternatives.
And the alternatives are...
joe rogan
Hit the brakes.
The government became a drug dealer.
One fucking hundred percent.
There's no way they're doing that unless they're making some.
dave attell
The alternative is pumpkins.
We thought maybe a pumpkin patch in here.
joe rogan
Once a year.
dave attell
How about a Christmas tree farm?
I know it goes against the culture, but...
joe rogan
If we just tie pumpkin season right, we're going to make a killing, boys.
dave attell
Now, the Vietnam thing is interesting because I know my cousin who was in Vietnam, he came back and he had a heroin problem.
But in actual Vietnam, they don't make heroin.
It's Laos, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the trade routes.
dave attell
So there you go.
It's in that zone, that triangle.
joe rogan
It's controlling the area.
You know, like there's so many conspiracies about what the real reason why they lied and made up a false attack to get us to go into Vietnam, but almost always it's money.
Almost always.
There's no way they do anything like that unless someone's making money.
That's what they did then, that's what they do now.
Now, if you're making money the legal ways, you know, through like selling weaponry and doing all the stuff that we do, But then you realize that there's all this extra money being made here that you're not getting a piece of.
dave attell
Right.
joe rogan
If there's trillions of dollars in heroin coming from a place, you're going to be like, hey, this is kind of bullshit.
I'm tired of selling you fuckers tanks.
I want a piece of this heroin money!
And that, look, this is like so well documented in our country.
That's literally what the Iran-Contra affair was about.
That's when we funded the war, the Sandinistas versus the Contras in Nicaragua.
That's Oliver North.
I mean, that's fucking Freeway Ricky Ross was selling him the coke.
ian fidance
Yeah, but we have to invade them because they hate our freedom.
joe rogan
That is important.
I'm glad you're looking at it that way, Ian, because what's really important is framing it in a way that the common person can understand.
I know this seems like tyranny to you, and there's a bunch of fucking murderous drug dealers at the helm of the wheel.
But that's not the case.
dave attell
What about fentanyl?
What do you think of that?
joe rogan
Oh, I love it.
dave attell
It's got legs.
joe rogan
I wish it was in and everything.
It's fucking crazy.
dave attell
That's out of China, right?
joe rogan
Well, they need the precursors.
The precursors apparently are coming from China.
Again, China's like, listen, are they buying?
Then we're selling!
ian fidance
Isn't this their plan to win the 100-year war?
To get us back with opium?
joe rogan
They are way ahead of schedule.
Those guys are killing it.
They're fucking killing it.
They're killing it with TikTok.
I think TikTok accelerated everything.
dave attell
Yeah, TikTok is the new opium.
joe rogan
Yeah, it really is.
It basically is.
dave attell
And that's our TikTok.
Their TikTok is all like, you know, it's good.
unidentified
Their TikTok is science prize, martial arts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian fidance
Are you a child?
Be sexy and dance.
dave attell
I was like, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, drag queens are fun.
dave attell
They must be really...
ian fidance
I'm a teacher.
You need to know how I fuck.
dave attell
What?
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
I'm non-binary.
So you must use these pronouns.
And the kids are like, how many pronouns are there?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dave attell
What the fuck?
I've never been to China.
I know guys who've toured through there.
I can only imagine what those shows are like.
I mean...
I guess you do it for the expats.
It's not like the locals are dying for American comedy over there.
joe rogan
They will fucking put you in the ground if you talk some shit over there.
dave attell
Oh yeah, no.
joe rogan
You can't go over there and just get drunk and do comedy.
They will put you in the fucking ground.
dave attell
But you know how, like, when you do, like, a town and you always make fun of the other town, like, to get those people on your side, like, hey, I'm in Pittsburgh, what about that, you know, Scranton, am I right?
Come on, they suck.
I'm kidding.
But, you know, that's the thing, like, who do they make fun of?
I guess us.
That would be really, it's just like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm coming from America with our, you know, different branches of government.
I wish we had just one guy.
joe rogan
You're one guy, you can get shit done.
You can really get some shit done.
Because what you do is you make sure that the businesses are on the same page as the government.
The government owns the businesses.
They're all together.
You're all part of it.
You can't make a decision without them.
That way we're all working the greater good of the country.
You're gonna make plenty of money.
We're all working the greater good of the country.
And it's a weird hybrid of communism and commerce.
That's what changed when China figured out, oh no, we need to have competition so people need to be able to make money.
Let them make money, but we'll still let them run shit.
And then I think America was like, I like what she's wearing.
She looks good.
Yeah, I want that dress.
I think it's that.
That's what I think it is.
And I think that's why they're fucking pushing for all this crazy shit today.
People think they're really trying to make the world better for people.
No, they're not.
Shut the fuck up.
They're trying to get more control out of you.
dave attell
When you go overseas, do you perform a tour?
What's your favorite spot overseas?
joe rogan
I love the UK. I love to go over there.
I just love the people.
I just love it.
They're fun.
It's a fun place.
I love England.
I love Scotland.
dave attell
How about Australia?
Have you done that?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've done Australia.
I love Australia.
dave attell
I've never done that.
joe rogan
They're fun fucking people, man.
They're fun people.
You know, there's a lot of America that's a little uptight.
dave attell
For sure.
joe rogan
And also very judgy.
unidentified
A lot.
joe rogan
Very judgy and very uptight.
And, you know, I know there's a lot of wokeness in England, too, but, like, good old fucking regular drunk English guys are fun.
I like them.
I like drunk Irish guys.
They're fun.
dave attell
Ireland is good.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fun.
Young people there get it.
Young people know what the fuck is going on.
The young people today are on the internet.
And the young people today are paying attention to people that aren't lying.
And they realize, like, oh, we're getting fucked.
Yeah, you've been getting fucked.
We were getting fucked.
We didn't even know we were getting fucked.
dave attell
Well, I mean, when you go overseas, that's the thing of like, you know, I say sort small, Canada, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you get it going.
But it's funny how like they get all of our references, yet they're better people.
You know that kind of thing?
Canadians?
Yeah.
ian fidance
No, they're not.
dave attell
I think they are, no.
joe rogan
They're 20% less douchebags in Canada.
dave attell
How many fights have you seen out of Tim Hortons?
That's what I want to know.
unidentified
Exactly.
dave attell
You never see a beatdown.
You never see a shooting.
ian fidance
I went to a strip club in Calgary, and they used the loonies and toonies, the coins, to get the strippers.
And people were like, when you go, make sure you don't warm them up with a lighter.
They don't like that.
And I'm like, what?
They're throwing...
Hot coins and strippers?
These are terrible people!
joe rogan
This might be what we call, like, sampling bias.
Like, the study that you took of what kind of people Canadians are at a whole was at a strip club.
ian fidance
Blanket statement!
joe rogan
And where?
Where was the strip club?
Calgary!
A strip club in a fucking cattle town, a frozen cattle town, in one of the toughest fucking places on earth to live.
dave attell
I forgot it is a cattle town.
joe rogan
I've got some friends, my friends John and Jen, they live in Edmonton.
They live out in Alberta.
And it's so cold out there, you can take hot water and throw it in the air and it freezes before it hits the ground.
Bro, they get to 50 below, 60 below.
ian fidance
A week before I was there, it was negative 30. And then the week I went, it was 32 degrees.
And people were like, oh, I'm wearing shorts.
dave attell
It was fucking nuts.
joe rogan
That's why they're so cool up there.
You have to have discipline to live.
You have to be able to shovel your car out of the fucking snow to stay alive.
To stay alive.
It makes for better people.
It makes for more resilient people.
ian fidance
People are better when they know how to put on snow tires.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
But this guy in the strip club, honestly, he really, I hate to fink you out or anything, but he really, like, you know how, like, most guys go and they just kind of sit and observe?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
He's part of the action.
He immediately runs in, throwing the dollars, spanking an ass.
I'm like, I don't know if you're allowed to do that here, dude.
I don't know, like, where you think you're allowed.
He's from Delaware, so I assume that's like a handshake.
joe rogan
In Delaware, it's normal.
dave attell
Yeah, spanking a woman's ass.
ian fidance
Shout out Gold Club.
dave attell
And they liked it too.
They were like, oh, finally a guy who gets us is here.
They were like into him.
ian fidance
They want to have fun, and most guys just sit there and like, you know.
You went up and you put a dollar like you were betting poker.
I was like, exchanging money.
dave attell
I was like looking around for the cameras.
I'm like, I don't want to be observed doing this.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
dave attell
But it was really definitely a, that was for Louis Katz's...
ian fidance
Bachelor party.
dave attell
Half bachelor party.
unidentified
Half.
dave attell
Because I wasn't going to go to Costa Rica with them.
I'm too old for that, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
So it's like Oklahoma.
joe rogan
It's like, boy, this night out, the documentary, Dave Attell down there.
dave attell
Costa Rica?
joe rogan
Costa Rica is awesome, but the bugs are gigantic.
Bro, they have crazy bugs you have never seen before.
They're like birds.
dave attell
Really?
joe rogan
They're fucking huge!
dave attell
I wouldn't be into that.
joe rogan
There's crocodiles there.
I went with my family and we went on a crocodile tour.
It's crazy, dude.
dave attell
They're crocodiles, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, real crocodiles.
unidentified
Are they in bayous?
joe rogan
Or are they crocodiles?
Well, it's like rivers and I don't know what you would call it.
I guess you could call it a bayou.
I think bayou is like an American term.
Isn't it a French term?
dave attell
Yes, it is.
joe rogan
It's a French term that they use for Cajun country.
ian fidance
CCR term.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a jam.
But so we're in this boat, right?
And my kids are young at the time.
And I'm like, don't go near there.
Don't go near there.
Every time they go near the edge, one of them is a little daredevil.
And she likes to lean over the edge.
I'm like, come on, you fucking thrill seeker.
These are real dinosaurs, man.
And so we watch this one slide into the water.
So there's a bunch of them on the deck, on the banks, rather.
And they're sunning themselves.
And you see these...
15 feet crocodiles just sunning themselves.
This is so creepy.
And then they slide into the water.
You're like, Jesus!
They're under us!
They're in the boat!
And I'm like, this is such a bad idea.
And all my father instincts are kicking in.
I'm like, don't go near.
Don't go there.
unidentified
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!
joe rogan
You're like road rage times a hundred.
You're fucking freaking, man.
If one of them falls in, you're gonna go in, too.
unidentified
You have to go in.
joe rogan
You have to go in.
ian fidance
You can't leave them.
joe rogan
You have to go in and you have to throw them onto the fucking boat and then you gotta figure out how to get up because the crocodile's gonna hear the splashing.
Oh, Jesus!
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
It's so scary.
dave attell
How about the ocean there, too?
That's another one where it's amazing, but there's a lot of sharks.
joe rogan
Oh, they have a lot of sharks down there?
dave attell
That's what I heard.
unidentified
Really?
dave attell
It's a big shark thing.
joe rogan
Well, down in Florida, down in the Keys, they have so many bull sharks that there's a bunch of videos of guys fishing, and they're just trying to get the fish in as quick as they can because the bull sharks come along and just fuck those fish up.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
There's bull sharks everywhere down there.
So many that you're allowed to kill them and cook them.
dave attell
Really?
unidentified
Yes!
ian fidance
You can go bull shark fishing?
joe rogan
You can go bull shark fishing in the Keys in Florida.
dave attell
What does that taste like?
joe rogan
How many bull sharks are you allowed to take?
I think you're allowed to take like one a year or something like that.
But people go fishing for bull sharks.
ian fidance
How big do they get?
joe rogan
And people get mad at them.
You're killing sharks!
Because of the propaganda of the fucking shark's fin soup.
unidentified
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Because people don't understand the size of the globe.
And they think that sharks are endangered.
But not there, they're not!
dave attell
No.
joe rogan
They might not be over there, wherever the fuck they've been killing them and taking their fins off.
But in Florida, there's a lot of them.
ian fidance
Does it fuck up the ecosystem, though, if they kill too many of them?
joe rogan
Sure, yeah.
But we're killing too many fish.
The problem is, it's not just we, the human race.
We've depleted the ocean by something around 90% of all the big fish.
ian fidance
And then they told us that plastic straws are the problem.
So every time I go to a coffee shop, it sucks ass.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Bull sharks are harvestable in Florida with a 54-inch minimum size limit and one per person per day.
Oh, not per year, per day.
That's how many they have of them.
The world record is from Stewart, Florida with 501 pounds, 92 inches.
Yikes!
The maximum size is about 13 feet with the matures at approximately 14 to 18 years of age.
dave attell
She's a teenager.
joe rogan
Bull sharks are responsible for almost all of the different shark attacks out there.
They like to bump and bite, meaning they bump their prey and attack it while it's trying to figure out what just hit them.
dave attell
Just like you, Ian.
Bump and bite.
joe rogan
That's a strip club strategy.
dave attell
Bull shark!
joe rogan
They use cut stingrays for bait year-round and our heaviest rods and tackle gear.
No doubt you'll get a great show and fight if you catch a bull shark.
ian fidance
Would you ever go bull shark fishing?
dave attell
I'm not a fishing guy, but I wish I was into that.
Like, I like all the gear they have to buy.
I like that when you go into, like, a Dick's and you see, like, that whole wall for, like, you know, the right anglers and all that kind of the lures and all that kind of...
I don't know, but I'm not into it.
ian fidance
But you wouldn't go?
dave attell
I would go, but I'm not really...
ian fidance
Fishing is awesome.
joe rogan
This is one of the things that Jamie just pointed out.
One of the crazy things about bull sharks is they go into freshwater.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
So they can go...
They've been all the way up into Illinois.
So they make...
No bullshit.
No bullshit.
They make their way up the river.
unidentified
They're getting crazy.
dave attell
That explains it.
joe rogan
Even the movie Jaws was based on a freshwater attack that was on a river in New Jersey.
dave attell
That's right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
Near Tom's River.
joe rogan
They go all the way up the river into the...
dave attell
How can they do that, fresh and salt?
joe rogan
Because they're monsters.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
They're just designed to kill.
And if they ran out of shit to kill in the salt, they ventured into the fresh.
dave attell
That's amazing.
joe rogan
They made it all the way up into the rivers and they started killing things.
ian fidance
What do they look like?
joe rogan
They look like a shark.
Just a regular shark.
ian fidance
Like a great white type shark?
unidentified
No.
dave attell
I thought it was smaller than that.
joe rogan
Smaller.
They're smaller, but it's the same kind of look.
That's what a bull shark looks like.
ian fidance
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Look at that terrifying fuckhead.
Jesus Christ, dude.
dave attell
That's like the classic look.
joe rogan
Do you know how many there must be if they let you kill one a day?
dave attell
Sure.
joe rogan
Do you know how many there must be?
dave attell
Yeah, that's great news.
ian fidance
Yeah, but how many people are going out specifically...
joe rogan
To catch bull sharks?
There's videos on YouTube of guys doing it.
Yeah, they have YouTube fishing channels.
unidentified
For real.
joe rogan
I subscribe to a couple.
There's YouTube fishing channels of these fucking dudes going down there, and they catch bull sharks.
Jamie, see if you can find bull shark fishing...
Warmer sea surface temperatures have led to a bull shark population increase, scientists say.
A green wildlife expert discusses whether people should take caution.
Yeah, they're gonna kill you.
Take a lot of fucking caution.
These fuckers are dangerous.
They're real aggressive, too.
I think them and tiger sharks.
Bull sharks I think of the most.
What does it say, Jamie?
jamie vernon
You want bull shark video fishing?
joe rogan
Yeah, bull shark fishing.
dave attell
I want to see the Illinois bull shark fishing scene.
joe rogan
The thing is, people have it in their head like, oh, you shouldn't kill sharks.
Right, but you also shouldn't let them kill people.
If you get so many fucking sharks that kill people, you've got to kill the sharks.
ian fidance
Yeah, but it's also like we shouldn't be eating tuna and salmon with everything that we're taking.
joe rogan
Eat some fucking shark, bro!
I want a shark steak, bro.
You used to be able to buy it everywhere.
Mako shark was like a normal thing that was on menus.
dave attell
Growing up on Long Island, that was the big get, a mako.
joe rogan
Two bull sharks swam up to Mississippi River to St. Louis.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
See the arch.
ian fidance
What a nice little trip.
joe rogan
But that's how resilient they are.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
It starts from 1937. A fisherman's tale from 1937 sparked the researchers' interest in bull sharks upstream after two fishermen caught a five-foot, 84-pound bull shark in Alton, Illinois.
So that was in 1937. Fifty-eight years later, in 1995, a fisherman near Rush Island, Missouri, caught another bull shark.
That's fucking crazy.
dave attell
What are they eating?
joe rogan
Everything.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Fucking everything.
Birds, whoever's slipping.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Whoever's slipping, bitch.
dave attell
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Bull sharks typically live in warm water, in open salt water, but they're one of the few species that can adapt to live in freshwater environments.
ian fidance
Do they ever have arguments and they go after each other?
joe rogan
I wonder.
dave attell
Sharks eat each other, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm sure they do.
dave attell
For sure.
joe rogan
Well, they kill everything else.
ian fidance
Battlebots of the sea.
dave attell
That would be great.
joe rogan
Fucking monsters, man.
ian fidance
That's awesome.
joe rogan
I mean, their teeth are just rows and rows of, like, duplicating teeth.
So when one falls out, another one replaces it.
dave attell
This is so different from the stuff I look at at home, like when I'm like a koi pond.
Like there's something about a koi pond.
Like it calms me down.
I don't know what it is.
ian fidance
We love pet videos.
Walter.
dave attell
Anything with parrots.
I'm always into that.
I like that too.
This is what I was thinking of doing.
You take parrots.
Like, you know, there's all these parrots that outlive their owners.
So you take them and you make like a Supreme Court of parrots.
They know all this ancient stuff because they're like old.
But like, you put little robes on them and it's like, hey, what do you guys think about?
And you say an issue and then like whatever.
It's like, okay, well, there you go.
That's what we should do.
joe rogan
Parrots live super old.
dave attell
I know, like 70 years or something.
unidentified
Really?
That's crazy.
joe rogan
So if you get one when you're 80, you're an asshole.
You really are so selfish.
This poor parrot, especially if you treat it well.
ian fidance
Can you imagine handing a parrot down to your children in the will?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian fidance
That would suck.
joe rogan
That would fucking suck.
dave attell
I think they can live till like 100 years old.
unidentified
I'm not sure.
dave attell
Like a tortoise.
They have that kind of age to them.
They really can live a long time.
There's a few animals where, like, once you get them as a pet, you know, you're there and it is for your kids.
ian fidance
And do they keep learning phrases?
dave attell
No, I think they kind of, like, just know, like, three things.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Some pets, such as tortoises and parrots, may live for over 50 years.
dave attell
Okay, well, I was wrong, but, you know, tortoises live, like, into their hundreds, so...
joe rogan
Provide documented pens for their pet parents at their wills.
Lawyers often urge pet parents.
Lawyers.
That's just lawyers weaseling in on some of that pet parent money.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
That's a leap of faith, like, because I just did a will, like, and to my parrot, I'd like, you know, it's like, yeah, we're going to do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
This parrot can't, you can talk, but he can't, you know, testify.
joe rogan
It says some species lived 75 to 100 years.
dave attell
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
dave attell
You gotta go with an old-fashioned pigeon.
That's like, what, three weeks?
Like, six weeks if he's healthy?
joe rogan
Do you know the pigeons were all brought over here for food?
dave attell
No, I didn't know that.
I thought they were from here, no?
joe rogan
No, they're an invasive species.
I guess they were brought over from Europe, but they were a food source.
That's what squab is.
dave attell
Oh, it is?
joe rogan
Squab's pigeon.
Really?
Yeah, all those pigeons in New York City, 100%, you can shoot them and eat them, and they're good.
ian fidance
I wish we were allowed.
Good luck to that.
joe rogan
Just pink, pink, just shoot them, and then you just put them in a bag, take them home, and pluck them.
Literally, you could hunt wild meat in Central Park.
dave attell
So when people go out, let's squab, is that what they're really talking about?
Like pigeoning?
joe rogan
Is that what squab is?
Whoa, squabble?
dave attell
Easy Webster.
I wonder.
joe rogan
I mean, that kind of makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a weird word.
joe rogan
Are we squabbling?
What are we squabbling about?
That doesn't even sound like a fight word.
ian fidance
No, how can you fight after hearing that?
unidentified
Squabble sounds like something that happens to your ankle.
dave attell
I squabbed on the way in.
ian fidance
What about squirrel?
dave attell
That used to be like a frontiersman.
Hey, I shot some squirrel.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, people still eat squirrels.
They eat squirrels all throughout the South.
I have friends that eat Hunt squirrels.
ian fidance
Some friends of mine want to take me squirrel, raccoon, and rabbit hunting while I'm here.
joe rogan
Wow.
dave attell
He's a good shot, by the way.
He really is good.
joe rogan
I would have a really hard time killing a raccoon.
I just think raccoons are so cool.
ian fidance
They're the cutest.
joe rogan
They're not just cute.
They have little hands.
dave attell
They have little hands.
ian fidance
Have you ever seen them eat cotton candy in water and it disappears and they get so confused?
unidentified
Oh, really?
ian fidance
Oh, it's the cutest.
dave attell
That's weird.
ian fidance
How they eat, they pick up their food and then they run and eat it.
So they try to pick the cotton candy up and it goes away and then they're like, what?
What happened?
It's so cute.
dave attell
I saw a raccoon in front of the Chelsea Hotel right next to Gotham.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
dave attell
He's like, what the fuck?
That was weird.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
He's searching for it.
I lost it somewhere.
ian fidance
Poor little guy.
joe rogan
Oh, what a dirty trick to play on a raccoon.
Look at him.
He's so fucking frantic.
dave attell
Oh, I found it.
ian fidance
It's like someone when they lost their vape.
joe rogan
I'll just set that down here.
What the fuck?
dave attell
Where's that bull shark?
You can't escape me.
I can even do a water fountain.
joe rogan
Comes up to the toilet.
Remember, that was always a thing that snakes were going to be in the toilets in New York City.
dave attell
I was thinking about that the other day.
ian fidance
Rats do that.
dave attell
Like, if a rat really, like, came up and went inside of me, like, whose side would the EMTs be on?
joe rogan
Oh, here's one I always wanted to know if it's true.
Alligators in the sewer.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that real?
dave attell
I heard that as a kid, that was a big deal.
joe rogan
Like, people would have pet alligators and they would release them in the sewer.
ian fidance
It was always in video games.
dave attell
There's a movie about it, too.
It was like a horror movie in the 80s about a gator that was living down in the sewers and now he's humongous and he's going to eat somebody.
That's a cool thing.
That was a great urban myth.
joe rogan
But was it real?
Did they ever find alligators in the sewers?
See, they found any alligators in the New York City sewers.
ian fidance
Yeah, but how would they get there?
joe rogan
People throw them away.
Most of Florida is infested with pythons.
And a bunch of those came from people's pets.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not all of them.
They used to think it was all pets, but then they found out that there was a research lab that got hit, that was filled with pythons, that got hit with a hurricane or tornado or some shit.
ian fidance
Sounds like a horror movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the pythons got loose.
dave attell
That's a terrible death, I think.
And I think python death, oh boy.
ian fidance
Was he rather python or bull shark death?
joe rogan
And swallowed head first.
dave attell
Well, Python, you could smoke while you're dying, whereas Bullshark, you're in the water, you're already kind of like, I'm fat, you know.
My man boobs are being, you know.
joe rogan
Anything that happens in the water is ultimately more terrifying because you can't move good in the water.
You can't get away.
ian fidance
Did you see that video of that guy jumping off the cruise ship and they videotape and he just disappears into the night?
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ian fidance
Some teen was trying to impress his friends, and he jumped off into the water.
Curran took him away, and in the video you just see a head bobbing and disappearing into the darkness.
joe rogan
Oh my god, what a terrible way to die.
Being an idiot, a drunk young kid.
dave attell
You know what I feel sorry for?
The comic on the cruise ship, the next day he has to do a show.
I know everybody's a little down.
unidentified
If it was Tony Hinchcliffe, he'd be immediately making fun of that guy.
joe rogan
What the fuck was wrong with that guy?
I guess he can't swim.
The conditions have led to the myths of special breeds.
The lack of sunlight creates a blind albino gator.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
But is it true?
jamie vernon
So it started off as a myth, but there have been reports of not only sightings, but they have pulled a couple out.
But the original reports were like there was hundreds in there a year, and I think that's a myth.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
They've pulled a couple out?
How many did they pull out?
jamie vernon
Like I said, it started off as a myth to became truth.
This is a non-profit that says they've pulled out five.
ian fidance
Oh, they're just little.
joe rogan
They've pulled out five alligators in the past two years.
dave attell
That's still a lot.
That's pretty good.
And they eat the rats, right?
joe rogan
Oh, none from sewers, it says, though.
So this is like people that have pets.
dave attell
Yeah, like in their bathtub.
That's such a weird pet, like exotic.
joe rogan
There's a dude who lived...
dave attell
That guy.
joe rogan
Somewhere.
I think there's a dude who lived in Harlem.
ian fidance
With a tiger?
joe rogan
With a tiger?
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
In his apartment?
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
dave attell
Yeah.
Crazy.
joe rogan
And there's a photo of it in the window?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like someone's trying to climb up the fire escape and you see a tiger in the window?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the most insane thing of all time.
dave attell
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Because someone's got to go in and deal with that thing.
In an apartment.
dave attell
Look at that.
joe rogan
In an apartment.
ian fidance
He's so angry.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's trying to fuck that guy up.
In an apartment.
dave attell
What about the neighbors?
I mean, like, honestly.
joe rogan
Bro.
dave attell
That's got to be tough.
joe rogan
How bad does that apartment smell?
dave attell
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Because you're not going to stop that thing from pissing on the walls.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
He's going to mark wherever he wants.
ian fidance
Is that a snake next to the tiger?
dave attell
This guy's into exotic shit.
unidentified
Coiled up?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's hard to tell.
That looks like a turtle.
dave attell
That's so unfair to the tiger.
ian fidance
Oh, no.
joe rogan
So rude to the tiger.
dave attell
But so is the zoo, by the way.
In the Bronx.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
The zoo.
dave attell
It's like, when are we going to move to Manhattan or something?
You know, it's like, I'm sick of being...
joe rogan
We're nowhere near the park.
dave attell
You know the action.
There was a really good...
This owl escaped from the Central Park Zoo, and they tried to capture him, and then they couldn't.
And then they said, he'll just be fine.
He's living out there in Central Park.
He's eating rats and pigeons, and so he's helping everything.
And then he just flew into a building and died.
It was sad.
I felt so bad for him.
It's like he finally got out.
He was looking for a mate.
And then he just like...
At night, because these owls, they're night people, so it just flew into somebody's building and killed himself.
joe rogan
But I thought they fly good at night.
dave attell
That's what I thought.
I guess not.
Because he was half owl, half seagull or something.
joe rogan
No, birds get really confused by glass.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dave attell
That was him, Flacco.
unidentified
Flacco.
dave attell
Dead.
Oh, man.
ian fidance
Poor Flacco.
dave attell
That's great.
joe rogan
Flacco probably thought he was going into an opening and he hit a window.
dave attell
Sure.
ian fidance
Oh, look at him.
dave attell
But yeah, he was like escaped, you know, catch and release, bail, you know, bail reform.
joe rogan
You ever have that happen in your house?
You ever have that happen in your house?
You just hear, dunk!
And it's the sound of a knock on glass and you look out and you see a bird just dead.
dave attell
Oh, jeez.
No.
ian fidance
I hear it sunk on my glass.
I live in Brooklyn.
It's just an angry teenager.
dave attell
But that's like when you drive through Nebraska and all of a sudden weird shit starts hitting your windshield.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, what is that?
Is that a grasshopper?
What is that?
Oh, yeah, like huge bugs and stuff.
It's just like, for the amount of bug and the amount of shit that comes out of them, you're like, wow, that didn't make sense.
It's like a splatter.
joe rogan
Imagine driving through a locust storm.
dave attell
Oh, that would be cool.
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Will they just flood the skies?
dave attell
Oh, for God's sake.
joe rogan
You know locusts and grasshoppers are the same thing?
dave attell
I didn't know that.
ian fidance
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, grasshoppers, like, turn into locusts.
There's, like, a specific thing that can happen to them.
I don't know if it's, like, a population thing.
ian fidance
Like caterpillars into a butterfly?
joe rogan
No, because it doesn't always happen.
Like, find out, like, what turns grasshoppers into locusts.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
It's something really nutty.
ian fidance
Wait, if you can eat...
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at this locust swarm.
Check this out.
dave attell
Well, whatever they are, they use whatever bathroom they want.
joe rogan
Each swarm contain up to 200 million pests.
How about living creatures, you fucking piece of shit?
They're not pests.
dave attell
That's a grasshopper.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they turn...
But just Google what it is.
dave attell
Can't you eat this?
I mean, I think grasshoppers are edible.
ian fidance
If you can eat grasshopper and cricket, can you eat locusts?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
dave attell
So what are we crying about?
joe rogan
You can eat most bugs.
dave attell
Open your mouth.
joe rogan
You can eat a lot of bugs.
Various species of short-horned grasshoppers in the family, but they have a swarming face.
So what causes them to swarm?
Locus and grasshoppers are the same in appearance, but locusts can exist in two different behavioral states.
Solitary and gregarious, whereas most grasshoppers do not.
When the population density is low, locusts behave as individuals, much like grasshoppers.
So it's a population thing.
dave attell
I thought it was mating.
joe rogan
Why do grasshoppers turn into locusts?
The term locust is used for a grasshopper species that change morphologically and behaviorally on crowding.
Forming swarms developed from bands of immature stages called hoppers.
The change is described as density-dependent phenotypic plasticity.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
joe rogan
So it's density-dependent, so it's something about the population that causes them to go fucking nutty.
And so they look real different.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Like, look at their color changes.
Oh, man.
Isn't that bizarre?
dave attell
That one's tough on the top there.
That's so cool with the knees back there.
They've got to make a drone or something like that.
I mean, honestly.
joe rogan
The knees are pretty wild.
dave attell
It is pretty nuts.
jamie vernon
There's going to be a big super swarm of locusts in the Illinois, Indiana, Ohio area this year.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
jamie vernon
Two, you know, like they bury themselves or they hibernate for like 20-something years.
dave attell
That's a cicada, I thought.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
I'm sorry.
Please.
dave attell
It's my big thing.
joe rogan
The cicada brewery.
Cicadas, they eat those too.
dave attell
Every 17 years or 13 years, the cicada return.
I always love that.
When they come out, it's just like they're annoying.
joe rogan
They're everywhere.
dave attell
Shedding their skin.
joe rogan
They're really loud, but they eat those too.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
I know a lot of people online have videos about how to cook cicadas.
ian fidance
Ew.
joe rogan
They use like teriyaki sauce and you bake them.
Apparently they're delicious.
dave attell
It's protein, right?
jamie vernon
Trillions will be president.
joe rogan
Apparently it's trillions!
Trillions!
Since cicadas will emerge from Maryland to Oklahoma, Illinois to Alabama, clearly trillions of adult cicadas will be present, but not all in the same place at the same time.
Yeah, well that's...
I would hope not.
unidentified
Can you imagine those trillions of those fat bugs?
dave attell
That's crazy.
ian fidance
Imagine the border.
joe rogan
I think they're cool.
They sound cool.
But they're out every year, right?
In small numbers?
Is that what the deal is?
ian fidance
Yeah.
Are they the ones that make the noises at night?
joe rogan
Is that the deal?
They're out every year in small numbers and then every...
jamie vernon
Here's the, like, it's called a brood.
dave attell
Yeah.
jamie vernon
So, like, there's different sizes of them that come out or emerge every year, I guess is what it's called.
joe rogan
This is what the World Economic Forum wants us to eat.
unidentified
You'll eat bugs and you'll be happy.
joe rogan
But the thing is, you need to know that you can eat them.
dave attell
You can't eat them.
joe rogan
They're very edible.
And my friend...
Ryan Callahan, he had like a recipe for cooking them that he talked about.
Take them, put them on a sheet, use teriyaki sauce, like a teriyaki glaze, cook them.
Apparently they're delicious.
ian fidance
I would try it, but I don't know if I'd...
joe rogan
I eat grasshoppers in Mexico.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Was it crickets?
It might have been crickets.
ian fidance
Do they deep fry them?
joe rogan
They fry them somehow.
ian fidance
Like pan serum?
joe rogan
Something like that.
I don't know, but they had a bowl of them in the room.
I think it was crickets.
And I was like, first of all, that's weird because crickets are the only bug that I don't kill.
Like, if I find a cricket, I catch them with my hand and bring them outside.
ian fidance
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, if I find a spider, you're fucked.
dave attell
Really?
joe rogan
Spiders are fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
joe rogan
I'll kill you.
unidentified
You bite me.
dave attell
Yeah, that looks pretty good.
Once you cook it up.
joe rogan
They call it, uh, chapulines?
That's how you say it?
ian fidance
I would do that.
joe rogan
Dried and roasted grasshoppers, a pre-Hispanic Mexican delicacy.
They're small, most are shorter than the length of an adult pinky, and nutty in flavor.
The cooking process can add additional flavors, such as lemon, garlic, and chili.
dave attell
I thought it was Southeast Asia or something.
joe rogan
Maybe it's grasshoppers and I thought it was crickets.
It looks like that.
Either way, grasshoppers I don't kill either.
dave attell
What about like, are you like an adventure food guy or no?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll try some different stuff.
dave attell
You know the thing in the Philippines where it's like an egg, but it's like the fetus is already like, you know, it's not like a...
Yeah, have you had that?
joe rogan
We used to serve that on Fear Factor.
dave attell
Oh, jeez.
joe rogan
And my Filipino friends are like, get the fuck out of here.
I ate that easy.
Like, what are they scared to eat that for?
dave attell
It's terrifying looking.
ian fidance
What is it?
joe rogan
It's basically a fertilized embryo.
It's a duck?
Is that what it is?
dave attell
I have no idea what it is.
It looks disgusting.
ian fidance
And so you eat the egg and the embryo is developed?
dave attell
Yeah, see?
There's like a thing in there.
ian fidance
Oh my God!
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
So people eat the whole thing.
They eat the little baby, they eat the yolk, they eat everything.
dave attell
That to me is like too much.
joe rogan
It's rough.
dave attell
Yeah, it's gotta be.
joe rogan
You're getting beaks in there.
dave attell
Oh god!
I'm such a baby with food.
joe rogan
Feet, beets.
Yeah.
I don't remember if I tried that.
I don't think I did.
dave attell
That sounds like a really good treat for a dog.
Like, hey, look, there's an egg and a bird in there.
Here you go, buddy.
joe rogan
I ate so many things on Fear Factor, I kind of forgot all the stuff I ate.
I don't think I ate one of those.
dave attell
Snake, of course, right?
joe rogan
No, I never ate snake.
dave attell
Really?
ian fidance
Would you eat everything that they ate to be like, I ate it, it's fine?
joe rogan
I would do it if I thought someone...
Someone really needed to know that you can do it.
I'll do it for no reason.
I'll do it for no reason.
I can't even win just to show you that you can do it.
You can do this.
You just do it.
Just decide you're going to do it and do it.
ian fidance
That's so paternal.
joe rogan
Well, it's just like coaching.
I'm trying to help these people.
that's a weird moment being on TV trying to eat a dick what's the side Can I get some fries with that dick?
Fried pubes.
dave attell
I don't know, man.
I think it was cool that...
In New York, there's always the new restaurant, the new hot thing to eat and stuff like that.
I'm never into that.
I'm not a food guy like that.
You're into everything, right?
ian fidance
I'll try anything, but I definitely am my comforts that I go back to.
dave attell
Yeah, man, it's just so hard.
That's why Austin's so good.
They got great food here pretty much from the beginning.
Those food trucks are the best.
joe rogan
There's so many good food trucks.
Yeah, there's a lot of great options.
And there's a lot of cool shit to do here.
It's not overwhelmed.
It's like a perfect size.
dave attell
And what's the...
I was going to say...
You know, we're doing the club, right?
And that 6th Street, has it settled down, or is it still, like, popping the way it is?
It's pretty crazy.
joe rogan
It's a crazy...
That end of it, too, is kind of the craziest end.
dave attell
Yeah, it is.
ian fidance
It's fucking wild.
joe rogan
We're in the heart of it.
dave attell
When you're old and you walk down that street, it's a whole different experience.
Nobody gets it.
Like, when you're an old person with, like, a mortgage, and you're walking down the street, you just see all that.
The only place I think almost is equal is San Diego.
Like, that street where the American Comedy Club is.
Because it's just nothing but, like...
Drunks, fights, just squad cars coming from every direction all the time for like two hours.
Then it's like quiet again.
But it's just like this amazing kind of like, you know, like almost like somebody said, like, you know, rung a bell.
It's like, be nuts!
Yeah, it's like a weird purge for a couple hours.
unidentified
A purge, yeah.
joe rogan
The purge.
It is like that, unfortunately.
ian fidance
A bunch of barefield drunk women.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
dave attell
But yeah, that street, man.
ian fidance
It's very overwhelming.
joe rogan
But that's a good place for comedy, both in San Diego and here.
To be around that chaos and then come inside, you're a little more used to chaos.
A little more used to some nuttiness.
dave attell
Bring some pop.
joe rogan
You're out there waiting in line, and you're those fucking crackheads everywhere.
We have security out there to protect them.
It's It's a sketchy fucking street.
ian fidance
That's like the cellar now in the West Village.
Like, these people line up to go see a comedy show, and then there's just people costing them for money and singing songs in their face, and then they come in like, what the fuck just happened?
joe rogan
Do you feel a noticeable change in the city with the immigrant thing?
ian fidance
Oh.
dave attell
It depends what part of the city you're in, but definitely around the Port Authority, Midtown.
You'll definitely see more of that kind of activity going on.
joe rogan
And that's over how much time?
dave attell
I'd say the last six months, three months, something like that.
joe rogan
So where do you think this goes in six years?
ian fidance
Nowhere good.
joe rogan
Is it Delhi?
dave attell
Is it...
I really don't know, but there definitely is a mood in that part of town.
And it's everywhere, by the way, but that's where I see it the most, where I'm like, whoa, look at the bus station here, just outside.
ian fidance
There's never been more mango and candy being sold on the street.
joe rogan
I'm a fan of both mango and candy.
dave attell
Shaved ice is so much easier to get.
ian fidance
Yeah, but can you imagine being like 19 and living, you know, in a terrible place and you're just so poor and you're like, wait, I get to go to a place where I get away with crimes with my boys?
Let's go!
And you're just like a group of lost boys.
joe rogan
They just let you right out of jail when you beat up a cop on TV? Yeah, yeah.
We are such suckers.
We're such suckers as a nation to let this happen.
It's so dumb.
It's the dumbest fucking thing.
It's happening right in front of everybody's face.
What do we do?
What do we do?
And none of our elected leaders are doing anything to stop it.
ian fidance
Yeah, but weren't they shipping them to like Martha's Vineyard and stuff?
Did that do anything?
joe rogan
Well, that was Texas.
That's our guy.
Our guy's awesome.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
He ships them.
He's like, okay, you guys want, fuck, you don't want to deal with it?
You want to let these people in?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You want sanctuary cities?
Good.
We'll send them to the sanctuary cities.
So just start busting people to New York.
Yeah.
Our guy is responsible for what's happening and a lot of what's happening in New York.
That's how they got up there.
ian fidance
Yeah, thanks.
joe rogan
But now the government's flying them places.
They're flying them to different cities.
You can ask where you want to go.
They give you money.
They give you a cell phone.
And the thing that's really freaking people out, especially people in poor cities in this country, is like, where's that fucking help for us?
You've got these people housed in the Roosevelt, you give them three free meals a day, plus you give them money.
ian fidance
And they can masturbate wherever they want.
It's amazing.
dave attell
That's true.
joe rogan
Anywhere they want?
dave attell
And for a long time.
ian fidance
It's happening a lot.
dave attell
For a long time, especially in New York, they would look at you guys down here and go like, you know, what do you...
And then they finally got to experience it.
And it's probably...
What we experienced is probably just like one-tenth of what you guys have to do being right on the border.
joe rogan
Well, we're not on the border, but...
dave attell
But I'm saying like Texas.
joe rogan
But if you're down south...
You know, if you're, like, way down there.
dave attell
A border town.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're in, you know, Juarez, like, right outside of Juarez, if you're, that's, you're real close.
I mean, it's coming over, and it's affecting you.
ian fidance
Well, it's a little wild, because I don't see many kids.
Not many families coming over.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing though, for real, it's very dangerous to bring your kids through a fucking migrant stream that's walking into Mexico.
ian fidance
So are they coming here to work and then send money back?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's definitely that.
But also military-aged men from other countries, including Middle Eastern countries, Including China.
It's like, that's real, too.
And it doesn't mean that you're not compassionate for the people that are doing exactly what I would do if I was living in Ecuador and I didn't have any money, there was no job opportunities, and I knew that I could get into America and I'd get a job, and if I busted my ass, I could make it.
And they would accept me, and not only accept me, but help me and give me money.
And you hear from your friends, bro, every time you go across the border, they give you 2,200 bucks.
So there's guys on the radio, Spanish-speaking radio in San Diego, telling guys how they went back and forth four times in a month.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they got eight grand in a month.
dave attell
Jesus.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they're living nice just by crossing back and forth and just continuing to do it.
dave attell
Well, did you read the story about the guy?
I think he's from Venezuela.
ian fidance
I had to make a move.
dave attell
He's telling people how to get over the border and then squat in houses and how you'll just get...
It's like, they won't throw you out of their house.
It's not like where we're from.
You can just get in the house and then you can stay there.
ian fidance
Yeah, that's just happening in Queens.
joe rogan
The lady got arrested for changing the locks on her own home.
dave attell
That to me is crazy.
joe rogan
They're also saying in New York, if you're in a house for 30 days, you legally become a tenant.
ian fidance
If you get mail sent to the place in your name, it's yours.
joe rogan
That is bananas.
unidentified
That is crazy.
ian fidance
I love this story.
I think it happened in Seattle or Portland or something.
This guy was at every march and rally, and he was like big Antifa and communism.
And he met someone there, and the guy was like, hey, can I crash with you?
And the guy was like, yeah, sure.
So he brought him and his girlfriend and stayed on the couch.
And after two weeks, the guy wouldn't let the homeowner into his own house, and he had to call the police, which is against their religion.
I don't know what to tell you.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
ian fidance
Isn't that the best?
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
That's amazing.
ian fidance
I was talking to friends of mine.
There's like over a thousand squatter situations in Atlanta.
And they're like, well, it's only a thousand.
The population is this big.
It doesn't really matter.
I'm like, dude, ten people doing it is alarming.
joe rogan
A thousand is crazy.
That means they know how to do it, they know the loophole, and you need to tighten that loophole up, you fuckheads.
ian fidance
People are so smart, they know how to jock the system.
joe rogan
A hundred percent, especially criminals and fraudsters, which is the type of person who's got, I mean, you imagine, they're filming them.
This is my house.
ian fidance
They're filming.
joe rogan
They're like, I don't give a fuck, dude, this is where I live now.
And they know that you have to pay them to get out, and that's what a lot of homeowners do.
But the problem is, then another person is just going to jump in.
ian fidance
Well, and the eviction process is so long and you have to hire a lawyer, you have to go to court.
It's all on the homeowner.
joe rogan
And good luck trying to sell the place because if you're not there in the house, they'll just squat.
dave attell
But they always hold up like a dirty piece of paper.
I have a lease!
And it's just like a happy face and a house behind it.
joe rogan
This guy was explaining how he did it.
This guy was explaining how he did it in this YouTube video.
He was saying that you get a fake lease.
So you draft up a fake lease.
You use that lease to get the power and things turn in your name.
You pay the bill.
There's a bunch of different steps that you can do that just seems to indicate that you are the legal resident.
And then they have to take you to court.
And it could be months and months before you even get a trial.
ian fidance
Then where do they stay, the homeowners?
joe rogan
They're fucked.
ian fidance
In a migrant hotel?
unidentified
They're fucked.
joe rogan
It's so crazy that in the name of protecting tenants, which is important, you don't want a shitty landlord, you want to protect tenants, but in the name of protecting tenants, you're basically allowing people to steal people's houses.
dave attell
For sure.
joe rogan
And not just one.
If Atlanta has a thousand, what is the number of people they're squatting currently, Jamie, in the United States?
jamie vernon
I don't know how you would know that.
joe rogan
Try Google.
ian fidance
Just try Googling that.
joe rogan
Why don't you ask ChatGPT?
unidentified
Ooh.
dave attell
It's not only that they're squatting...
unidentified
That's scary.
joe rogan
Let's see what that bitch says.
dave attell
You see how they abuse the house, too.
They'll, like, smear shit on the walls.
They'll do all kinds of things in there.
ian fidance
Lenny Dykstra did that.
dave attell
So I'm like, you really own Risky's mansion.
jamie vernon
It says American Business in...
Oh, that's 2010. Well...
joe rogan
I think Lenny Dykstra did it, and it was his mansion.
ian fidance
Yeah, and they were like evicting him, and he's like, alright, I'm gonna take a shit on the floor.
joe rogan
Is that what he did?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And then didn't Gretzky buy the house?
ian fidance
He bought it from Gretzky.
joe rogan
Oh, he bought it from Gretzky.
ian fidance
It was Gretzky's house.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And then he shit all over it when they were taken away from him.
ian fidance
Fuck you.
dave attell
Not cool.
joe rogan
That's a different story, though.
He wasn't a squatter.
Yeah.
He just went broke.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
That's like when you go to a friend's house, you have a party, and like that last guy who has nowhere to go, he's like, hey, man, you know, we can play a game.
It's like...
This is a different level, Your Honor.
joe rogan
Bro, the guys you can't get out of your parties are the worst.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the main reason why people don't want to have parties.
ian fidance
I don't know.
Not for me.
joe rogan
The one guy who won't leave.
dave attell
Yeah, gotta get up early, man.
You know, that's all right.
ian fidance
I can barely get people to leave my podcast studio.
joe rogan
Especially when you get a little drunk and they just don't get the hints.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're like, you are drunk, you must leave.
dave attell
Lights out.
joe rogan
What?
What are you doing, man?
Are you fucking...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you fucking tripping, bro?
ian fidance
Yeah, I was that guy.
joe rogan
Like, it's five in the morning.
ian fidance
Yeah.
I would just curl up on their welcome mat like a cat.
Wake up the next day.
dave attell
That's what happened to that guy who had the Kansas City Chief party, and then the guys go outside, they're like, dude, can't we just hang a little bit longer?
You know, maybe it'll warm up.
He's like, no, you gotta go.
And then they all, like, get popsicles outside.
ian fidance
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
How many of them died?
dave attell
It was like four of them, I think.
unidentified
Jesus!
dave attell
They found the bodies right outside.
ian fidance
I'm actually in such a bad hang that you end up freezing to death.
joe rogan
Wasn't there some controversy to that story?
dave attell
They don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, the story seems fishy.
dave attell
There's something with, it might have been drugs, it might have just been like, you know, they died somewhere else and he put them out there.
joe rogan
Well, I think there was some controversy with the guy who called it in.
Like, they didn't, he didn't do it quick enough.
I forget what it was.
dave attell
They were high, though.
joe rogan
But then people started getting suspicious.
dave attell
They were very high, though.
They were very, you know, they were drunk and they were just doing powder, I bet, something like that.
joe rogan
Maybe oxys.
Maybe that's why they just fell asleep outside.
Okay, what does Chad GVT say?
Let's have a note.
As to my last update in January 2022, I don't have access to most recent statistics on the number of people squatting in houses in the U.S. Squatting is often a complex and unreported issue.
dave attell
That's a government.
joe rogan
Retaining inaccurate data can be challenging due to its illegal and unauthorized nature.
unidentified
You may need to consult recent studies, reports, or data from relevant organizations or government agencies.
joe rogan
Well, this is ChatGPT4.
ChatGPT5, it would be like, I know how to get them out.
dave attell
Here's your plan.
jamie vernon
You fucking said a robot.
I don't know the full thing in Atlanta, but the first article I pulled up said...
joe rogan
1,200 homes.
ian fidance
I was off.
jamie vernon
They're institutional investors.
I don't know how many of them are people buying houses and never living in them, and there's vacant houses everywhere.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Like Airbnbs type things.
There's a bunch of Airbnbs.
You know that kind of situation's going on right now where a bunch of...
joe rogan
So they, like, move into the Airbnb and just stay?
jamie vernon
It could be.
joe rogan
I know that there are definitely people doing that, because this lady videotaped this woman who wouldn't leave her place.
She's like, I'm not going nowhere.
dave attell
And you have to keep the lights.
unidentified
She's like, you see this bitch?
joe rogan
This bitch is in my fucking house, and she's cooking in my fucking kitchen.
ian fidance
Yeah, but can't you just beat the shit out of them, and then just know you'll be out the next day?
joe rogan
The problem is that everyone's aware that this is an issue already by then, so now they've got their eye on you, and you can't really just say, this person is in my kitchen, they attacked me.
You know?
You'd have to fight to the death.
dave attell
You have to keep the lights and the heat, all that on as the homeowner.
Because if you shut it off, that's like a big red flag.
You're not allowed to do that.
joe rogan
They might not even be allowed to be in the home.
ian fidance
I think a lot of this came in New York City from the TIL program.
Well, in the 70s with all the houses and buildings just being completely abandoned and turned to shit.
A lot of people were squatting.
dave attell
That's right.
ian fidance
Because they were, like, homeless.
So they were like, all right, well, we have to figure this out so that we don't have all these people on the street.
dave attell
You know, Tompkins Square?
ian fidance
And then they just didn't change it.
Yeah.
dave attell
In the 80s, I remember they...
Back, I guess that was, like, a Giuliani thing, actually, where they were like, we got these squatters in these buildings, and we want them out.
You know, like, in order to repurpose the building, they had to get all these people that had already set up power and all kinds of stuff to the buildings.
So the cops would go in, and then you would just see, like, a rush of, like, skinhead-looking dudes come...
Flying out through the park, and they would, like, tussle with the cops.
It was crazy.
And it was just like, they were squatters.
They were, like, you know, street kids that were living in these buildings.
joe rogan
Where the fuck did they go?
ian fidance
Well, that's when some of the best music came out in New York City.
They were all musicians squatting together, yeah.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
ian fidance
Yeah, totally.
Agnostic Front and, you know, Bad Brains and everything, they were all squatting.
Pro Mags.
joe rogan
Makes you legit.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
Well, as a homeowner, that's one of my biggest fears.
Squatting.
I'm on the road, I come back.
unidentified
Someone's in your house.
dave attell
Yeah, someone's in my house.
ian fidance
Hello, David.
joe rogan
If it's New York, some lady just, they think this lady got murdered because she went into a house that was her house to clean it up and there were squatters living there and then they fucking killed her and put her in a bag.
dave attell
Yep.
ian fidance
Jesus.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
The cutting them up, that's the thing.
joe rogan
And then there's, you know, then the problem is, like, good luck catching them.
You know, they're just gonna, there's no paperwork on these people.
They're just wandering around the city.
Squatters suspected of killing a woman in a New York City apartment stuffing her body into duffel bag.
Yeah.
Victims found squatter in mother's vacant apartment.
dave attell
What a horrible way to go.
joe rogan
According to public sources, Vattels was killed after she traveled to New York City from Spain to get the apartment ready to be occupied by a family friend.
It had been vacant for months after the death of her mother.
Police sources say Vattels didn't know when she went to the apartment that two squatters had been living there.
And when she arrived, She could be seen on surveillance video coming and going from the apartment.
Police believe the two squatters returned to the apartment after Vattel's arrived, surprised, and killed her by beating her to death.
ian fidance
How do these squatters fight?
Are they on Zillow?
unidentified
Like, what the fuck are they doing to find these old dark places?
joe rogan
Someone figures out that there's an apartment that's empty.
dave attell
Jeez.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
dave attell
Oh my God.
Wow, what a horrible death.
joe rogan
Do they have the two suspects?
Two suspects went to used car dealers after the crash looking to buy a car.
They remain at large.
ian fidance
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
So they beat her to death and they're at large.
Video stealing her Lexus from the street out in front and fleeing.
The car police said, sources said, was later involved in an accident in Pennsylvania.
dave attell
Well, they'll get them when they have to charge.
When they charge the Lexus.
joe rogan
They don't make electric cars.
dave attell
Oh, sorry.
joe rogan
Lexus is, Japanese is Toyota.
Toyota believes in hybrids.
Toyota has a different strategy for EVs.
ian fidance
Can you imagine being a vicious murderer and getting away in a Prius?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the car you want to take.
People wouldn't, unless you have too many stickers on the back.
ian fidance
Just a bunch of co-exist stickers.
joe rogan
Yeah, then you're violent.
You're probably really aggressive about your insistence that everyone co-exists.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
Did you guys see that video that Edward Snowden posted that shows Israel bombing these kids?
dave attell
No.
joe rogan
They're just walking in Gaza.
dave attell
Where?
joe rogan
It's horrible, dude.
It's horrible because they're clearly not armed.
dave attell
Snowden?
joe rogan
They're just walking.
dave attell
The Snowden.
joe rogan
Yeah, Edward Snowden put it on his Twitter.
And it's these young men are just walking down the street.
dave attell
He's still in Russia, right?
unidentified
Yeah, he has to hide in Russia.
joe rogan
So, these guys are just walking down the street, and they're clearly not armed.
This is like after the bombings and everything.
These people are probably going back to see if their house is there.
Who knows what the fuck they're doing, right?
ian fidance
What if they thought they were squatters?
dave attell
Whoa, that's a hit.
joe rogan
Look how quick it happens.
dave attell
Boom.
joe rogan
So that guy in the front is running away.
He's like, oh shit.
I gotta get the fuck out of here.
And so they zoom in on him.
dave attell
They stop running.
They got him too?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Bro, the way they do it, I mean, there's nothing left of you.
They're literally targeting you with a missile.
You just disappear.
Look at that.
dave attell
Is it a missile or is it a drone?
joe rogan
Well, it's a missile coming from a drone.
Probably.
I mean, it might be coming from somewhere else.
ian fidance
I don't know where.
joe rogan
I believe it's a drone, though.
Isn't that what the contention is?
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they have drones that can do this, which is so insane, dude.
And they're not showing you the bodies because it's just a bloody mess.
ian fidance
You know what's so creepy?
Have you seen those drone videos in Ukraine and Russia?
And it's really good quality, and then they drop the little bomb on the guys, and then they put Russian techno music over it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian fidance
And it's so creepy.
joe rogan
It's so creepy.
ian fidance
You just see guys hanging out.
joe rogan
And then they just explode.
dave attell
Well, that's what they say now, is that they can see everything at all times, so it's really hard to use tactics where we'll sneak up on them, and then we'll go this way.
They can't do that anymore.
Those kind of tactics are old now.
ian fidance
Yeah, but what do you do?
joe rogan
Satellites are everywhere.
Satellites are everywhere.
Drones are everywhere.
They have silent drones.
ian fidance
If you see a drone coming, are you just like, well, I accept death.
dave attell
These guys think this tarp will help them.
Put a tarp up.
joe rogan
What's that?
Oh, so he's already been shot?
Oh, here it is.
Oh my god, dude.
dave attell
It's pretty amazing how they figured that out.
joe rogan
That's a hard way to go.
Just drop a bomb from a fucking drone and cook everybody.
dave attell
You should be able to hear it, right?
If it's a civilian drone, because they make that loud, that buzz, and then it's pretty...
Can you shoot it down?
Yeah, they have it shoot it down.
They also have that EMT blast on it where they can basically take control or stop the signal and it'll just land.
ian fidance
It's like a perk in Call of Duty.
unidentified
It's insane.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm sure they probably have ones that avoid that stuff.
I think they just keep getting these things better.
How silent are the drones now?
Oh, did you hear about the drones that were hovering over the base that they think are from China?
And they had been hovering over there for weeks.
dave attell
I didn't read that one, but yeah, I heard.
ian fidance
They've updated the balloons.
dave attell
It's a, whatchamacallit, what base was that again?
joe rogan
I'll find it.
I've got this story.
Somebody sent it to me, I saved it.
But it's a scary story, because it says for weeks.
dave attell
Man, I hate to jinx it, but it's just like, you know, These things you can just buy and that the fact that, you know, luckily no people in this country have used it like the way they're using it, we're really lucky.
I mean, honestly.
Think about all the situations.
joe rogan
Are we lucky or is it just a matter of time?
dave attell
Well, evidently whatever they're doing is like, you know, just think of like New Year's Eve, all those different like gatherings, you know, a game, you know, it could be even like a high school.
joe rogan
Hey Dave, how about stop giving the enemy ideas?
dave attell
Oh, sorry.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Fuck, dude.
dave attell
I'm trying to connect to our, you know, what we call it, your first responder fan base.
Your contractors and whatnot, but I'm sure that's a big, uh, keeps them up at night thinking about that stuff, you know?
joe rogan
Dude, that fucking video's horrible.
All those videos are horrible.
The video of those guys in Gaza is horrible.
ian fidance
Can we go back to sharks?
dave attell
How about the...
Well, I was gonna say, the Ukrainians have those, uh, those drones now that take out the ships, you know, the sea babies, they call them.
joe rogan
Look at this.
dave attell
Which is just...
joe rogan
Mysterious drones swarmed Langley Air Force Base for weeks.
For weeks.
The unidentified drones were such an issue that assets were called in from around the government, including NASA WB-57 high-altitude jet.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
So what does it say these things looked like?
dave attell
Yeah.
A dragon.
joe rogan
The Chinese dragon drone.
That would be a dope way for China to show, to really flex.
Make a drone that looks like a dragon.
Does it say what the description of these things were?
dave attell
That's the F-35.
joe rogan
That's what I think a lot of this alien shit is.
dave attell
Yeah, that's what they're saying now, too.
joe rogan
A lot of it, I think, is drone technology.
dave attell
They won't admit to it, but it's out there.
joe rogan
To protect operational security, we do not discuss impacts to operations.
The statement said, we don't discuss our specific force protection measures, but retain the right to protect the installation.
Langley continues to monitor our airspace and work with local law enforcement and other federal agencies to ensure the safety of base personnel, facilities, and assets.
jamie vernon
Does it say...
But anything flying in our restricted airspace can pose a threat to flight safety.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
Uncrewed aerial system.
dave attell
It could also test the reaction time.
jamie vernon
Is that a drone?
joe rogan
Yeah, it must be.
It must be a drone.
Because...
That means they're not saying it's a UAP. They think it's a drone.
What is the most sophisticated drone currently available?
Google most sophisticated military drone.
jamie vernon
That we know of?
joe rogan
Yeah, just Google that term.
Most sophisticated military drone.
ian fidance
A picture of Obama pops up.
dave attell
They have the ones that are like little fighters now.
They're like able to do turns that no human could take.
ian fidance
Do they have little ones that buzz and have like machine guns on them?
joe rogan
Look at this one.
dave attell
Well, that one's, yeah, that's a spy.
That's cool.
That can fly for days.
joe rogan
Okay, so here we got Dassault Neuron.
dave attell
That is cool.
joe rogan
Look at these fucking things.
dave attell
With the propeller in the back.
joe rogan
Wow.
They must be loud as shit, though, no?
jamie vernon
They have a power plant in them.
Well, I guess, I mean, it's an engine, I guess.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rolls-Royce engine.
Shout out to Rolls.
jamie vernon
Turbocharged piston engine.
That'd be loud, right?
A turbocharged...
joe rogan
Turbocharged piston engine?
Yeah, that'd be loud.
450 horsepower?
That's pretty fast for that little thing.
dave attell
It is cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
You see the ones with the Ukraine with the boats, where they're taking out the Russian Navy?
That is pretty cool how they did that.
joe rogan
Whoa, look at that thing.
unidentified
Look at the size of that.
dave attell
That's huge.
joe rogan
Holy shit, I didn't know they were that big.
dave attell
Look at that.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's a crazy flying robot that can murder you.
How nutty is that?
dave attell
That's one of those things where it just flies over.
Every phone call immediately saps it up.
joe rogan
But which one of these have missiles?
So some of these must be just spies.
dave attell
That one does.
Those are the hellfires.
jamie vernon
I think then you have to make it so it can have missiles.
I think they can probably do that to almost any of them.
dave attell
Look at the little one the guy has in his hand.
Can I play too?
I'm just annoying.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess they wouldn't make one that couldn't shoot a missile, right?
dave attell
The little one just collects gossip.
Guess who's...
joe rogan
Look at that.
The missiles just sit.
Go back to that picture you just showed.
The one you just showed with the missiles in the bottom of it?
dave attell
Yeah, that's the classic.
joe rogan
That's pretty wild.
Goddamn.
dave attell
Awesome.
joe rogan
So it's got two missiles, and what are those two things beside the missiles?
ian fidance
Bombs.
jamie vernon
Rocket missiles.
Those are different kinds.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
These can probably go really far.
joe rogan
They might be guns.
jamie vernon
Might be defensive.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Right, to shut, like, flares and shit.
dave attell
Air to ground.
joe rogan
Because they do that when someone's shooting a missile at them.
They'll shoot off a flare to detract the heat-seeking missile.
jamie vernon
And these are just the ones we know about, because there's got to be some shit.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Again, that's what I think a lot of that stuff is, that people are reporting.
dave attell
Do you think?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I think.
I think a lot of these things that people are seeing that they think are UFO is just some super sophisticated propulsion system.
dave attell
Some of them are really creepy though.
Like the way they hover around or fly around.
Like the one they showed like one or two from in the Middle East.
Just like it did look like it was either a UFO or a monster or some kind of like...
There's one that looks like a jellyfish but it's flying around.
It's got like stuff hanging off of it.
Like what is that?
joe rogan
That one's very weird because that one goes in the ocean too.
dave attell
That one's scary.
joe rogan
It goes into the ocean and then comes back out.
jamie vernon
Remember, I told you last time, I looked something up like this.
This thing came out in 2014. That is so cool!
It says it's a drone.
joe rogan
And it goes underwater.
jamie vernon
And it goes underwater.
But I couldn't find anywhere that this thing was being sold.
It had a Kickstarter-type program.
dave attell
Oh, neat.
jamie vernon
Like 10 years ago.
joe rogan
But here's the problem with this, even pretending that that's real.
What's the propulsion system?
jamie vernon
It may have not ever been real if people were questioning that.
joe rogan
No, I don't think it's real.
I think it's a basketball.
unidentified
I think it is.
joe rogan
I really do.
Look at how the bottom where it's screwed down.
I think that's like a volleyball or a basketball or something.
I think that's totally fake.
Because there's no method of propulsion.
You can't just have a basketball that flies.
Liquid gravity engine, shut the fuck up.
jamie vernon
It says sphere-shaped, no outside propellers or moving parts, but then it doesn't say how it flies.
ian fidance
Look at the golf ball.
jamie vernon
There's no video of it.
joe rogan
Exactly.
They use a golf ball as one of them.
Shut the fuck up.
That thing's fake as fuck.
dave attell
It's got one eye.
joe rogan
You have to have an exhaust.
Every fucking propulsion system that we know of right now has to have either a fan, like you've got to have a propeller, or you have to have an engine that shoots stuff out the back and makes you go forward.
That's it.
So these things that people keep seeing that don't operate like that, that's what makes me think the government has something.
That doesn't need a traditional combustion engine for a propulsion system.
ian fidance
They're not going to have it on Google.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not going to tell you.
They're not going to tell you shit.
They don't have to tell you shit.
I wouldn't tell them.
I wouldn't tell the whole world what we could do.
Get the fuck out of here.
I just make it better every year to the point where it's basically a UFO. And if you just think about the unlimited amount of money that they've had, and they've been designing military vehicles and jet engines and fucking, they've been doing that for decades!
All that time, making one thing that no one knows about better and better and better and better, flying around Area 51. I bet there's a lot of those that people are seeing.
They're like, oh my god, they're real.
ian fidance
They're just like, yeah, aliens are real.
But it's just us testing.
joe rogan
And also, I think aliens are real.
dave attell
I do too.
ian fidance
In what way?
dave attell
I'm hoping they are.
I really am hoping they are real.
I really do.
joe rogan
He changed his tune quick.
dave attell
No, I didn't ever say I didn't believe it.
I think the things he was just talking about, I'm like, some of them are secret projects, some of them are aliens.
That's what I'm hoping.
There is definitely another presence here, like in this world or whatever it is.
And that there has to be something to explain a lot of these sightings, which are not explainable.
joe rogan
It's real likely that both things are true.
Because it just doesn't make any sense with the universe as big as it is that there's no one else out there.
And if they do develop the ability to go way past where we are, they should be able to be invisible.
That should be easy.
They should be able to come here anytime they want.
That should be easy.
If you look at a species like ours that's this intelligent as the human species, if we got one million years more advanced, One million years more.
Who the fuck knows what we can do?
We're gonna be weird in five years from now.
Five years from now with AI, things are gonna be off the charts weird.
So imagine that just keeps going for a million years, which is really possible.
I mean, crocodiles have been around for fucking 65 million years or whatever.
It's totally possible.
ian fidance
Well, do you remember that cab driver in Vegas that told us that?
dave attell
This guy's very UFO. He's got a lot of UFO stories, this guy.
ian fidance
He told us what was the portal.
One of the casinos was a portal for aliens.
joe rogan
Oh, it's got to be service.
dave attell
He said there's a secret railway under like the MGM Grand and that...
That's where aliens are coming from, Area 51. It's like, I've never even heard of this theory.
And he was like, no, it's true.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
dave attell
And yeah, he had a lot of them.
ian fidance
He was like, there's no way 250 humans at one time would want to go to a casino.
dave attell
Yeah, that was his joke at the end.
ian fidance
Are you joking?
dave attell
Yeah.
I don't know if he was driving us or driving away from his ex-wife, but we were driving for a long time.
joe rogan
If I was going to be an alien, I want to abduct some people, though.
I think Vegas would be a good spot.
dave attell
No one would miss them.
joe rogan
Not only that, they'd be so confused.
Like, I don't know.
I think someone spiked my drink.
All of a sudden, I was on an alien spaceship.
dave attell
In Vegas, everything goes.
There's always a new thing to do, so that would definitely become the sphere.
joe rogan
Imagine if there was an abduction program.
You could actually get abducted.
Instead of abducting us and just ruining people's lives, what if we made a deal with the UFOs?
Hey, listen, you guys got it all wrong.
We're willing to get abducted.
You can take us on board and do experiments on people.
We don't care.
We're totally willing to be your guinea pig.
ian fidance
Influencers would try to do that.
joe rogan
100%!
Live streaming while you're getting your anal probe.
ian fidance
It's worth it!
joe rogan
Yeah, if they really wanted to come and abduct us, we would be more than willing to let them.
You don't really have to force us.
ian fidance
What if the aliens is technology, in terms of how advanced it's gotten in such a short period of time, and then the people using it are just basically drones that are using this exposed technology?
joe rogan
Well, it's possible that that's the future of life.
The future of life is we integrate with technology, and that's the only way, because the biological The evolutionary process is really slow, but the technological evolutionary process is really fast, like crazy fast.
Like you can have a whole new thing in a year, whereas like a whole new species, like God, how does that even happen?
You know, how does that even happen?
And then, like, when species are hybrids, they're not valuable, so, like, some of them aren't, some of them aren't, and it's like, what?
How long does it take to make a human out of a monkey?
How long does it take to make a monkey out of an amoeba?
It's too long!
They don't have that time!
It's too long!
That's too long!
But if you can integrate with technology, then you have an insane ability to adapt.
And then probably you just stop being a person.
Probably will realize that once...
ian fidance
I think that's already out there.
People stop being people.
dave attell
It's a little bit.
joe rogan
We have a little bit, right?
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
You know the whole send people to Mars?
I was looking at how long it takes to get anywhere.
It takes about six days, three days to get to the moon, which is doable.
That's why the moon is the way to go.
Mars is like nine months to a year.
But then the other planets, let's say we're like in a whatever, at our current ability to travel, like Jupiter, 25 years.
And there's really nothing there except for that Io moon, whatever that is.
I hope I'm not saying it wrong.
But the fact that we're not built for outer space and yet we keep craving this whole thing, when you're right, it should be some kind of techno hybrid of a human, something that would be able to do that, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, and it'll probably, if you become a machine instead of a person, you don't have to worry about being crushed by gravity, because you'll have a carbon fiber hull, and all your orgasms will happen from an app, and then you'll be able to- I volunteer.
dave attell
Radiation, all that stuff, because space is a killer.
It's not built for carbon people.
ian fidance
If you're that thing, and you're taking 25 years to get to Jupiter, will the technology exist to make you not be bored?
What are you going to do for 25 years?
dave attell
They should put you to sleep.
joe rogan
You're going to be playing video games the entire flight.
It's going to be amazing.
ian fidance
You've been preparing us for years.
joe rogan
Do you know how quick six months of video games would go by on your trip to Mars?
unidentified
It would be so quick.
joe rogan
You just have a local area network set up, and you and the other astronauts just fucking geeking out all day.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
They're coming for you!
Guard your flank!
Guard your flank!
You're fucking just drinking Mountain Dew and smiling.
If you knew that you didn't have any responsibilities other than playing video games, you know how quick six months could go by?
ian fidance
Ah, that sounds like hell, though.
dave attell
You know, not for me.
joe rogan
You would've got all the games.
All the games.
ian fidance
I mean, don't you want to get up and move around?
joe rogan
Maybe not.
Maybe if you just put that fucking Mark Zuckerberg headset on, you can pretend you're moving around.
ian fidance
Is there a dick-sucking robot that I could use?
joe rogan
Oh, there definitely is that.
ian fidance
Okay, I'm in.
joe rogan
That's probably already here.
They already have that in China.
They're probably testing it out right now.
dave attell
What is it called again?
It's a fembot or something.
It's a sex doll, but it's whatever you have to...
I don't know.
joe rogan
Those are coming.
Those are coming.
Have you seen that robot that cooks and sets up your kitchen for you?
The robot puts plates away and shit.
ian fidance
I think it's called a wife.
unidentified
Ow!
joe rogan
You son of a bitch!
Yeah, there's a new AI-powered chat GPT robot that does simple tasks around the kitchen.
But it communicates with you like a person even says, um.
It's very weird.
dave attell
Oh, like it's thinking.
joe rogan
It goes, um.
So, the reason why I did that is I'm putting these plates away in this rack and you'll dump garbage on the table and say, please clean that up.
Surely.
Look at this.
ian fidance
What?
unidentified
Why you did what you just did while you pick up this trash?
On it.
So I gave you the apple because it's the only edible item I could provide you with from the table.
dave attell
Oh, that is so weird.
Oh, look at that.
ian fidance
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Great.
joe rogan
It stands too.
unidentified
Based on the scene right now, where do you think the dishes in front of you go next?
joe rogan
So it's analyzing the image.
It's slow right now.
unidentified
The dishes on the table, like that plate and cup, are likely to go into the drying rack next.
ian fidance
Why does that sound like it's narrating This American Life?
dave attell
It's got a raspy voice.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like a dude.
It is weird.
dave attell
That really looks like a puppet.
It doesn't look like a robot.
joe rogan
No, man.
It does a lot of other things as well.
dave attell
That's amazing.
That is truly amazing.
joe rogan
Look how it puts the dish into the drying rack.
ian fidance
Does it apologize if it makes a mistake?
joe rogan
If it breaks your dick?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rips it right off?
I'm sorry.
I applied too much force.
ian fidance
My bad.
dave attell
Will that eventually have like a skin covering or will it look like that?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, 100%.
unidentified
It did pretty well.
The Apple found its new owner, the trash is gone, and the tableware is right where it belongs.
dave attell
I call bullshit.
You don't see that guy's face every time he talks.
That guy is a ventriloquist.
That man is speaking for the...
unidentified
What a cheap act, too.
joe rogan
Hey, buddy, how about you get behind the table with him?
dave attell
Yeah, let's drink a glass of water.
joe rogan
Fucking fraud.
Show it dynamic walking.
The dynamic walking one is wild.
So this thing, by the way, it doesn't have to have that giant metal plate over its chest, but it does if it doesn't want you to kill it.
dave attell
That's amazing.
It looks bulletproof.
joe rogan
You're going to have to shoot it in the lens.
But look at it walk around and move.
dave attell
Amazing.
That's amazing.
joe rogan
And this is, think about like a Model T and then think about a Tesla.
Okay?
A Model T is this slow, chunky...
ian fidance
What a dork.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Look at his hips move.
Sexy.
dave attell
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
But think about a Model T, right?
Model T is like big stupid wooden wheels.
dave attell
I've seen this.
This is really nuts.
Look at that.
joe rogan
This is almost two years ago that it could do this.
Look how agile it is.
This is Boston Dynamics.
And so they can do all kinds of things.
They can fucking saw wood.
They can do construction.
They can hop up on boxes.
Look at this.
dave attell
This is before AI, right?
joe rogan
Well, they had AI, but they didn't have AI available to everybody.
dave attell
Because now in the future, you'd look at something like this and go like, this is probably not really happening.
This is real.
This is real.
joe rogan
Look how it jumps.
ian fidance
They programmed it to hop around gay.
dave attell
That is amazing, man.
joe rogan
They programmed it to toss the stuff up to them.
This is so much better than a lazy dock worker.
Some guy doesn't like his job and needs a cigarette break.
This fucking thing is ready to go.
And if they figure out how to make...
dave attell
Whoa!
joe rogan
Oh, yo, it does acrobatics.
ian fidance
It's a gymnast.
joe rogan
And if they figure out a way to make very small nuclear-powered engines, which I think they're already doing.
I think there's...
Isn't there...
Is it China that has a small nuclear-powered power plant?
dave attell
Yes.
joe rogan
So they'll be able to make a nuclear-powered power plant that's the size of a fucking cell phone and stuff it in that thing.
It'll be able to go for 90 years.
dave attell
Holy shit, like a battery, like a nuclear battery.
They already have that, where they use it to power.
They used to do it for spacecraft, but you're right.
Then it would be endless.
joe rogan
Nuclear battery produces power for 50 years without needing to charge.
dave attell
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Betavolt says its battery can power mobile phones that never need to be charged and drones that can fly forever.
Forever.
dave attell
Would you really want a nuclear-powered phone though?
That's the one thing.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
dave attell
You would?
joe rogan
Yeah, I want my balls to glow.
unidentified
I'm tired of charging.
dave attell
That's one of those, I don't know about that version.
joe rogan
I'm willing to wear like an external case to put the phone in.
It's like some sort of a shield from the...
I'm sure the government wouldn't allow these companies to sell it if it was dangerous.
So just...
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Let's just let it get out there and let's just let the pieces fall where they may.
dave attell
True.
joe rogan
Don't be a pussy.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Don't you want a robot?
ian fidance
Just accept.
dave attell
I like the robot thing, though.
joe rogan
Don't you want a robot?
We're going to get robot fuck dolls for shizzy.
dave attell
People are so anti-robot already.
They had the, what was that in San Francisco, the self-driving taxi.
They lit it on fire.
ian fidance
Oh, I've seen that!
dave attell
It was basically like the Amish people.
They attacked it, they destroyed it.
unidentified
Yeah, but they do that to regular taxis in San Francisco.
joe rogan
Again, this is a sampling bias.
You've got homeless, crazy fentanyl zombies that are just trying to smash everything.
People leave their fucking windows rolled down and their keys...
In Canada, they're telling them to leave their keys outside their foyer.
They're telling them to leave your keys near the door so that people don't have to roam through your house if they're trying to steal your car.
ian fidance
Really?
dave attell
Home invasion.
ian fidance
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
They said, listen, to make it easier, just leave the keys outside.
Like, what?
How about...
dave attell
It's a new low.
joe rogan
Stop people from stealing my fucking car!
What am I paying in taxes for, you fuckheads?
ian fidance
It's like clean needle centers, where like, if you're gonna do the drugs, you just do it in the house.
joe rogan
No, no, but clean needle centers are a lot more reasonable.
dave attell
I like that kind of drug.
joe rogan
San Francisco reverses plans to allow police robots to kill suspects.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
You're gonna need it soon.
But this is how bad San Francisco's got.
This was a suggestion.
dave attell
Yep.
joe rogan
They actually have a robot.
They're like, not yet.
Not yet.
Let's wait till things go really sideways.
ian fidance
Are they working on, like, technology for us to read thoughts?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ian fidance
What about, like, learning what our cats are thinking?
dave attell
Let's slow down on the tech.
joe rogan
You don't want to know what your cats are saying.
Your cats are thinking, I wish you were small so I could eat you.
ian fidance
Nuh-uh.
Not my cat.
joe rogan
My cat's gone.
ian fidance
I love you.
joe rogan
When you die, they eat you almost immediately.
ian fidance
Good.
I want to be one with my cat.
joe rogan
Let's take a piss break, because I've got to piss too.
Let's pause this pitch right here.
What the fuck are you doing, Dave?
You're living in 1995. Exactly.
ian fidance
You know he sends me emails with no body and everything's in the subject?
joe rogan
How long is the subject?
unidentified
It's so long.
dave attell
I forget to return, so it's all up there.
ian fidance
It's the best.
dave attell
How about the great sound when I'm doing it, like Morse code?
unidentified
This is madness.
joe rogan
How long does this take for you to accomplish this?
dave attell
I'm done.
unidentified
Same.
joe rogan
So you don't have an iPhone at all anymore?
dave attell
I have one too, but this is me off the grid.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
This is my, uh, uh, when shit happens.
Right here, I'm ready to go.
joe rogan
So what do you use that one for?
Like, who do you text on that?
dave attell
No, this one's, like, just, like, for all my texting.
The other one's for emails and stuff.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
You text on that?
dave attell
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
So when I text you, you text me on that?
dave attell
Yeah, I do.
Can't you feel it?
The cold?
ian fidance
That's why there's like 10 spaces in between words.
joe rogan
That is so insane.
I'm sending you a text right now.
I want to see what happens.
That is so insane.
dave attell
This is good.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Yeah, it comes up green.
ian fidance
Just wait.
Wait for the sound, Dave.
dave attell
You texting or you calling?
joe rogan
I'm texting you.
Tell me about your upcoming weekend at the mothership.
dave attell
Might take a while.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't have voice to text either, does it?
dave attell
No.
If it did, I wouldn't do that anyhow.
joe rogan
Really?
dave attell
I'm like super paranoid with the web and everything, so this is like...
joe rogan
But yet you have an iPhone.
dave attell
I do, but you know, that's, whatchamacallit, bait and switch.
Okay, let's see if I get it.
joe rogan
Did you get it yet?
dave attell
I did.
No.
Okay.
I didn't get it.
ian fidance
Wait, where's it going to make the sound?
dave attell
Your name isn't.
joe rogan
They always make sounds?
Every time you text a button it makes a sound?
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
That doesn't drive you nuts?
dave attell
It really annoys people too.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it takes you like four presses to get an S still?
You're doing that thing?
dave attell
Yeah.
You gotta really want it.
joe rogan
That is so nuts.
dave attell
I can't even find your thing yet.
It'll take me days.
joe rogan
Do you remember when people started using U, like the letter U, instead of Y-O-U, because of that?
dave attell
A time saver.
joe rogan
Just a little time saver.
dave attell
It doesn't even have emojis on it.
Any emoji is now inappropriate.
ian fidance
He still uses emoticons, like a colon and a parenthesis.
joe rogan
I use those sometimes too.
ian fidance
For a smiley face.
dave attell
Well, are you guys done with this tech beatdown?
It's like I'm a tech hoarder.
Come out of the house, buddy!
Come on, we love you!
unidentified
How long have you been flip-phone?
dave attell
I have one in my house which I'm sure is worth a lot of money because it has the antenna on it.
So that's like my retirement plan.
I'm going to sell that to a museum or some collector or something like that.
And I'm like, man, I can't believe we actually used to think this did something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
Oh, I can't really hear you.
Hold on a second.
Yeah.
Hey, now it's up.
I can hear you too clear.
Let me put it down just a little bit.
joe rogan
I think you probably did a little something.
dave attell
Yeah, but you had one of these.
Actually, that reminds me of a story about you.
Bill Blumenreith, you know what he said to me?
He goes, you know, back in the day, one of the comics who always worked was Joe.
And you know why?
I go, why?
He goes, he had a cell phone before anybody else.
So whenever there was a fallout, I would call Joe.
Joe was there.
Joe wanted it.
And I was like, wow.
So it was like a cool story about, like, just as we went from, like, you know, calling someone on a landline to, like, a cell phone and that you were ahead of the game.
joe rogan
This was like 89. Easily.
I went in my car.
dave attell
Easily, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
And that's how it was for the young comics.
You know, having a car was a good thing.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
You needed a car to get around.
If you didn't have a car, you're not getting the gigs.
If you had to have someone drive you to gigs, ugh.
dave attell
Yeah, that didn't happen.
joe rogan
Because, like, I could get a call from Bloom, right?
Like, hey, someone just got sick.
dave attell
That was it.
Yeah, that's what he's saying.
joe rogan
In two hours, there's a gig in New Hampshire.
Can you make it?
I'm like, I'm on my way.
ian fidance
That's awesome.
dave attell
Yeah, because you wanted it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he would tell me over the phone, okay, you're going to take the 405 North.
You'd have to, like, write it down.
So I had these pieces of paper that were like, you know, Dick's Chucklefuck and whatever the place was.
Because Dick Daugherty had a bunch of them.
Dick Daugherty had like the Comedy Hut and all these different comedies.
The Comedy Vault.
ian fidance
That's awesome.
dave attell
That Boston scene must have been like...
Because, you know, talk about New York, like, you know, starting out.
I always felt like there was definitely more...
Rooms, more open mics and stuff like that.
But Boston, they were paying gigs if you could do them, if you could headline.
And there were so many local, great headliners that you really like swimming with sharks, basically.
There were so many guys that could just basically blow you off the stage at any minute.
joe rogan
And they would do it to people on purpose.
dave attell
They did it to me.
I know that.
joe rogan
Were they at Knicks?
ian fidance
Really?
dave attell
They would just come, like the hooky lao or something like that.
Like, you don't mind if I do a little time and it was like 40 minutes of solid, you know, every Boston thing they could throw at me.
And then I'm up there with my, like, you know, little people jokes.
To be polite.
unidentified
Hey, you guys, leprechauns, nothing.
Nothing.
dave attell
You know, go home!
You know, screaming at you.
joe rogan
They did it on purpose to people.
dave attell
Oh, for sure.
And we deserved it, too, by the way.
joe rogan
Well, they had an attitude about the rest of the world when it came to comedy.
They felt like the best comics were in Boston, but they all stayed in Boston.
And whenever guys would come from out of town that were like headliners, like national headliners, they would roast that guy.
dave attell
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
They would throw him after Don Gavin and Steve Sweeney and Kevin Knox and fuck.
dave attell
It was such a wake-up, but even the crowds themselves, like very, you know, you better prove it to be up there.
If you're the closer, you better be the best guy here.
joe rogan
Also, there were so many fucking headliners that they were just so used to a very high level of headliner.
These guys were killers.
Did you just pull out a comb to do your fucking mustache?
ian fidance
Yes, I was hoping you were making eye contact with Dave.
unidentified
You just wanted to make sure everything's in line.
joe rogan
How often do you comb your mustache?
ian fidance
A fair amount.
Whenever I feel the need.
A fair amount.
joe rogan
Do you have a specific mustache comb or just use any old...
ian fidance
I just got one from Walgreens or whatever.
joe rogan
I've seen them little tiny ones.
I don't like them.
ian fidance
The teeth are too sharp and it hurts my little face.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
You get a nice soft plastic one.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Old school.
ian fidance
You got to.
Sometimes shit gets in there, you know?
Trimmed it up today.
Don't want any loose hairs.
joe rogan
I get it.
I get it.
Before I was bald, I used to enjoy running a comb through my head.
It's a nice little scalp massage.
Uh-huh.
ian fidance
Now I'm afraid my hair will fall out so I can't do it.
joe rogan
Looking at the demise in your comb.
ian fidance
I know.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
ian fidance
Yep.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dave attell
I started going bald when I was like 18. Really?
Crazy, yeah.
ian fidance
What was that like?
dave attell
Lonely.
joe rogan
There was a kid in my high school that was going bald at 15, and everybody called him Baldy.
ian fidance
Oh, God.
joe rogan
That was his nickname, Baldy.
ian fidance
That's horrific.
joe rogan
Kids were brutal back then.
dave attell
They were.
joe rogan
They were fucking brutal in the 80s.
They were brutal?
ian fidance
In the 90s and 2000s.
joe rogan
They're brutal right now.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
They're beyond brutal, I think, now.
This is just heartless, what they're doing, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
That's like, I don't know, but we didn't have that web to, like, you know, everything it does.
joe rogan
Accentuate everything.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then also, like, get the clicks.
Every time someone's getting their ass kicked, someone's filming it.
ian fidance
Thank God that didn't exist.
unidentified
My God.
joe rogan
Imagine how many dick pics you'd have out there in the world.
unidentified
Woof, woof.
ian fidance
Be in trouble.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's kids today.
These kids today.
ian fidance
Teachers and students.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's wild.
Teachers always fuck students.
There was always, like, teachers fucking students.
dave attell
Mm-hmm.
ian fidance
Yeah, but we didn't find out about it until later.
Like, did you hear so-and-so used to fuck Mr. Blah Blah?
joe rogan
There was always the, like, very advanced senior who was banging the Spanish teacher.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dave attell
Rolling his R's.
joe rogan
It's funny, that's like professors in universities.
That was kind of understood.
That was part of the gig.
dave attell
That was, yeah.
That's what you did.
ian fidance
I used to be a teacher and they're like, never, ever be in a room with the door shut.
You leave the door open all the time and you're never alone with anyone.
I was like, yeah, this is fucking nuts.
And I see some of the shit with what teachers share on the internet with them and students.
I'm like, this is such a violation of boundaries.
dave attell
It's crazy.
You know, the homeschooling seems way better now.
ian fidance
Well, those teachers fuck their kids, too.
dave attell
Seems like a better option for everything.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
dave attell
You know, it's always like, hey, homeschool, you must be weird now.
It's like, I guess you're just being safe, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You don't want your kid indoctrinated, either.
dave attell
What do you think of college now?
Do you think it's a waste of time?
ian fidance
Yes.
joe rogan
Well, it clearly depends on what you want to do.
If you want to be a computer coder, good fucking luck.
AI's going to take over all that.
ian fidance
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
There's so many jobs that are going to vanish over the next five years.
But it's also like, it's such a rude, cruel thing to do to an 18-year-old kid that has no fucking idea what they want to do for their lives.
ian fidance
Yes!
joe rogan
And you force them into debt.
ian fidance
Decide now!
joe rogan
And you force them into a debt that's insanely difficult to get out of.
It's way harder than just going bankrupt.
It's hard to get out of that debt.
ian fidance
You're fucked.
I got in trouble when I was teaching because I told all my students, I'm like, take the test to go to school, but pick up a trade.
Go to trade school and start making money.
That's like the smart thing to do.
joe rogan
Well, if that's what you want to do.
But, you know, it depends on what you're trying to do with your life.
If somebody wants to be a journalist, you should probably go to school.
dave attell
Yeah, but if you don't know what you want to do, what should you do?
You know, I guess that's what it is.
ian fidance
Go out and get a job and know you can always go to college later, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, but you won't.
Not when you're working.
dave attell
Peer pressure.
Your family's pressure.
joe rogan
When you're young, you have that window where you can take wild chances from 18 to 24, 25. Once you're 25, everybody's like, hey, get your fucking shit together.
Maybe even earlier than that if you're in the Northeast.
But if you're already in a job and you're working eight hours a day, you're fucking tired.
The odds that you're going to quit that and stop making money and go to school, those aren't so high.
dave attell
I think it's harder on, you know, not to be the old guy, but like this generation is taught that they're exceptional and that everything they do is like important.
Whereas I think when I was growing up, it was like, no, nothing you do is really that important and that you're also going to have to like kind of work your way up in something.
I think a lot of them see their...
Peers, like, you know, they went to college, they dropped out, they started a company.
Or, you know, they're an influencer with a million followers.
So they see success differently than we do.
And, like, for me, it was like, yeah, you got to, like, kind of work your way up.
Or, like, you know, it's really about how much you want it.
You know, that kind of thing.
Whereas now I feel like there really is no game plan.
It's really, you know, it's kind of like...
You're almost like a sucker if you kind of play the game.
joe rogan
Also, fame is much more attainable to regular people now than ever before.
Especially if you're willing to do stupid things like pull pranks on people.
There's so many different things that people can do now that can get them attention, and they're doing that as a source of a career.
ian fidance
Yeah, but as a teacher, how can you make your kids do work when they're like, no, I'm just going to be a YouTuber.
I have more followers than you.
Like, shut up.
dave attell
But the whole idea of fame is like, when I was growing up, it's like, you don't want to be famous.
That's like for, you know, like, whatever.
That's not cool.
You know, you want to be, you know, something like rough.
You know, you want to be like a lumberjack or something, you know?
Yeah.
Now these kids, even at young ages, they're like, fame is where it's at.
That's where you get everything you want.
People actually listen to you, and they give you everything you want.
So it's amazing.
They've never worked a day in their life, yet they already know they don't want to work.
ian fidance
Dude, I saw the creepiest thing.
My friend's daughter took her phone and recorded her, five years old, and into the camera, she just kept going, don't forget to like and subscribe.
Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Watch my videos.
Don't forget to like.
And I was like, dude, that's an alien.
That kid's being trained to be an alien.
joe rogan
It's not the kid's choice.
And you're exposing the kid to the world.
The whole world.
It's dangerous.
It's not smart.
It's stupid.
It's irresponsible.
ian fidance
Well, just like that video we watched with the drone.
Psychically, we're not supposed to see that.
joe rogan
Well, you're definitely not supposed to see people get blown to pieces instantaneously.
ian fidance
Well, yeah, but even just now, like, yes, these things happen, but we shouldn't be aware of it and inundated with it every single day and every single second.
joe rogan
Right, but that's the only way you find out about it, to put pressure on people to stop it.
Because if it doesn't leak like Edward Snowden doesn't put it out there and a bunch of people don't retweet it and get outraged by it...
Then it doesn't put pressure on the politicians.
ian fidance
But is that gonna stop it?
Are they gonna stop?
joe rogan
Stuff like that can change things.
Stuff like that changes people's minds.
Stuff like that changes people's understanding of what's actually going on.
Because you keep hearing, oh no, it's the people that are dying, it's only Hamas uses human shields.
Well, clearly that was not a human shield.
And clearly those people weren't endangering anybody, and they didn't look like they were armed, and they just blew them apart.
ian fidance
Do you think the people making money off of this, like, do you think they really even care?
They're gonna keep going.
joe rogan
They're gonna care because the people are gonna care, because there's massive public outrage from things like this.
And the more things like this happen, the less support you get for military budgets.
And then you put pressure on the politicians that are voting for these things.
And then, you know, all that stuff works.
It really does have an impact.
Because they don't want people to be so outraged that they revolt.
They don't want people to pull a Bud Light on the whole government.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because people are trying to figure out a way to do that.
There's a lot of people that are trying to figure out a way to like put a stop to all this shit.
So the more things like this come up, it's fuel for those people.
dave attell
Yeah, but the majority of people don't digest news like we do in an endless cycle and have time to really kind of think about it.
Because I think that a lot of people I know, they're really smart people.
They just turn the news off.
They rather live in their own bubble that the news really makes them anxious and really makes them...
And I'm like, well, you've got to know what's going on in the world, right?
And then they kind of hit you with that whole thing of like...
They're telling you different, like, you know, everyone has a narrative and all that kind of story.
But I'm also like, you know, living in your own world is not the way to go either.
Because, like, when you do have to venture out of that bubble, it's terrifying, I think.
joe rogan
Especially, like, if you don't know what's going on.
dave attell
Right.
joe rogan
If you don't, like, there's some new thing that's happening, some new crisis.
You don't know.
You just walk right into it.
dave attell
I mean, yeah.
I'm curious.
I'd like to see all sides of something, but not to make it political or anything, I think a lot of these people just decide to, you know what, it's not for me.
I'd rather work on my own.
Some of it's mental health.
A lot of this stuff really shakes people to the core when they finally have to deal with it.
That's the reason why board games are still around, because people love the idea that you can disconnect.
From the world and like you're in like your own little world where you get to be God and here's the rules of it and stuff like that.
So, you know, there's something to that.
Puzzles, you know, that's why.
Hello?
You guys don't believe to me?
unidentified
You don't believe me?
ian fidance
You're a shill for Milton Bradley.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
No, for sure.
People like puzzles.
dave attell
No, people want to disconnect.
That's like, we're in that business.
People want to get away from their problems, you know?
ian fidance
Well, yeah, and I think people deserve to.
joe rogan
100%.
ian fidance
But also, like, if you're poor and you're barely making ends meet, like, you don't have time to worry about what's going on over here.
Like, sure, you can be informed, but it's so hard to be informed and not let it take a toll on you.
joe rogan
Well, that's why the great luxury is the people that go...
Please don't do that.
dave attell
No, I wanted to see if your message came.
joe rogan
I thought you were going to text somebody with that fucking goofy thing.
The great luxury of rich, privileged kids is becoming an activist.
ian fidance
Yeah.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Those are the ones that are splashing paint on the Mona Lisa and gluing themselves to walls.
Those are all kids from privileged backgrounds who feel guilty.
And they have this insane view that you're just going to stop oil now.
And the way to do it is to glue yourself to the Mona Lisa.
dave attell
But that's been going around since the 70s.
There was a lot of rich kids that were involved.
joe rogan
Of course.
It's always rich kids.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because those are the kids that have the luxury of being able to go out and protest and do stuff like this.
ian fidance
I think it's like inherent guilt, too.
Of like, God, I feel so bad.
What can I do?
joe rogan
100%, especially today.
Today you're being told that just by virtue of the color of your skin, you're a colonizer.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're responsible for everything.
And there's people like...
Some of these people that are in these...
Protest they haven't thought shit out at all.
So they get confronted by Influencers right and they ask them like real simple questions to get them riled up Like what do you think we should do?
We need to like give it to this country capitalism You don't understand.
We're trying to dissolve the country.
Does it get away from the capitals get away from the capital?
ian fidance
Yeah, dude, I saw the best thing I went to a rally or like a no a protest and It was it was during the summer of 2020 and you know everyone's like marching and everything and And I wanted to go check it out.
And this girl was wearing like an ACAB shirt and chanting like, NYPD, racist police!
And a cop was like, excuse me a minute, you can't stand here.
And she goes, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
unidentified
And then shifted and then started protesting again.
dave attell
She lost all her cred.
ian fidance
You fucking faker!
What the fuck?
joe rogan
You sure that wasn't a skit?
That sounds like a skit.
ian fidance
I saw it with my own eyes.
joe rogan
Oh, it must be real.
ian fidance
Yeah!
joe rogan
There's no way it could be fake.
ian fidance
Yes!
It was not fake.
joe rogan
Oh, you saw it.
ian fidance
It was right, no, I was there, next to me.
dave attell
That wasn't a crisis actor?
joe rogan
Because that sounds like, if I saw that one on Instagram, I'd be like, come on.
ian fidance
Oh, no, no, no, I was there.
Like, it happened right next to me, and I was with my buddy, and we just started laughing.
joe rogan
How dumb is that?
ian fidance
Yeah.
And then I was in Central Park for one, and I swear to God, this guy had a sign, and this super hot fucking girl went up to him and goes, can I borrow your sign?
Grabbed it, turned around, took a picture, gave it back, and left.
dave attell
Yeah.
A model.
joe rogan
Imagine being a young guy just trying to trust anything today.
Anything.
unidentified
Especially hot pussy.
dave attell
Well, what about, why are you always at these protests yet you're not in them?
Is that like the guy who goes to see the fires?
Like a wannabe fireman?
I am a wannabe fireman.
ian fidance
I love firefighters.
joe rogan
Good job, guys.
ian fidance
Oh, you used a Halligan bar?
Good work, fellas.
joe rogan
You know the stats.
ian fidance
Oh, yeah.
I was a volunteer firefighter in high school.
I loved it.
joe rogan
Were you really?
dave attell
In high school?
ian fidance
Yeah, before 9-11.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
If you're not fighting fires, it's a great gig.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
If you're not fighting fires, it's a great gig to be a fireman.
You don't have to fight the fires.
You don't have to risk your life and go into a burning building.
dave attell
You're in the firehouse, you're watching movies, you're making dinner.
ian fidance
I was always in the pool room playing pool so I could slide down the pole and everybody beat me running down the stairs but I didn't care.
Yeah, I did it from like 16 or whatever to 18 and I was a junior firefighter so I wasn't allowed to fight fires in the interior.
I could just do it from the exterior.
And then we would go, we were like the bitches.
We had to go and clean everything up and clean the trucks.
And then I fought a car fire once at 2 a.m.
Because I lived close to the house and you could hear the sirens.
So I showed up and it was me and two other guys.
It was all volunteer.
And they let me fight the fire myself.
And I was so nervous I didn't strap my helmet on.
And I like popped the hood and my helmet falls off.
And I left the hose running.
It was like a Charlie Chaplin movie.
joe rogan
World hardest catch.
ian fidance
Oh, it was hard.
It was so embarrassing.
They're just in the truck laughing.
I'm like, sorry fellas!
dave attell
That's one of my fears, the car fire.
I mean, that's a horrible death.
ian fidance
What, being in it?
dave attell
Yeah.
ian fidance
Oh no, it was a stolen, abandoned car.
dave attell
Yeah, no, being in it.
unidentified
I'm talking about just watching one of the worst ones I've ever heard.
joe rogan
One of the worst ones I've ever heard is Northern California.
The wildfires.
It swarmed the highway.
Killed everybody in their cars.
Trapped bumper to bumper.
Can't get away.
dave attell
That's like hell on earth when they have the family driving, like trying to drive to safety, and you just see all that sparks and all that kind of stuff going on.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck, man.
Dude, I've been evacuated three times living in California.
ian fidance
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, fire burned two houses in front of my house.
Yeah.
dave attell
And what do you do?
Like, are you out there with a hoe?
Like, what's the move?
joe rogan
We got the fuck out of there.
dave attell
You got out, right?
What do you grab?
joe rogan
Nothing.
Grab the laptop.
Grab the laptop and some clothes.
I'm like, I can get everything else.
Fuck this place.
dave attell
And do they have...
joe rogan
Stay alive.
That's what it's like, man.
When you see it, when you see, like, everything over the horizon is fire.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, from the left to the right, everything coming over the hills is fire.
dave attell
That's crazy.
joe rogan
And it's just engulfing buildings.
You're seeing your neighbor's house on fire.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
You just get the fuck out while you can.
dave attell
And...
I haven't...
So they just did...
Supposedly they have enough rain now for, like, till 2025 in California.
They're saying, like, this should help, like, both the consumption and also with all that snow up in Northern California that it should, like...
Like, if there's a forest fire now, what is that?
joe rogan
Well, see, this doesn't matter.
dave attell
Doesn't matter?
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
If you have a wildfire like they had where those people died on the highway...
Those things are so big, you can't even comprehend it.
It's so hot, there's so much fire, it's literally thousands and thousands of acres around you are just engulfed in flames, and it's moving at like 20 miles an hour.
There's nothing happening that you're gonna do with water.
And the other problem with getting a lot of rainfall is you get a lot of growth.
So you get a lot of grasses, wild grasses grow, and they're very tall.
And then they dry out because it stops raining.
It always fucking does.
And everything turns brown.
And as soon as things get hot and everything turns brown and it stops raining, that's when fire season happens.
And a lot of it is fucking idiots throwing cigarettes out the window.
A lot of it is people that are camping, homeless people.
dave attell
And gender reveals.
unidentified
They have the fireworks at the gender reveal.
dave attell
Everybody loses their house.
How about those guys, the smokejumpers, whatever, the people that do that?
That's a balls gig.
But they didn't have that in Hawaii.
They had nothing like that there.
Like when that town went up, it was all made of bamboo.
I mean, it was crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean in Maui?
dave attell
In Maui, yeah.
joe rogan
The Maui thing's crazy.
Because the Maui was power lines downed.
dave attell
Oh, that's what it was.
ian fidance
And wasn't response time terrible, too?
joe rogan
It was non-existent.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
They never had anything like that happen there.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there was also a lot of problems.
Like, the people didn't want to release the water, because, like, the water is owned, like, there's water rights, and I think the water was going to the rich neighborhoods where the golf courses are, and so there's, like, I'm trying to get the water, and then there's also, like, how the fuck do you have a place that's this windy where you still have exposed power lines?
That seems insane.
dave attell
Man.
joe rogan
That seems insane.
Like, every time those things fall down, and you didn't clean up any of the brush around it...
ian fidance
Wasn't it a conspiracy that they were trying to get it out of there so they could sell the land?
joe rogan
Yes.
The crazy conspiracy is the direct energy weapons conspiracy.
dave attell
What?
What the fuck?
unidentified
What is this?
joe rogan
Bro, the real tinfoil had to do is they'll corner you.
unidentified
Like, what do you think about the direct energy weapon in Maui?
ian fidance
Was that like a heart attack gun for fires?
joe rogan
There's apparently...
The government has the ability, according to the conspiracy theorists, and maybe even some real people, of having these things that they call direct energy weapons.
So it's almost like a laser beam.
And I know that these are things that they're working on.
I know these are things that are probably top secret, because it's always been discussed.
There's been studies on how to do it.
There's been papers written on it.
So the conspiracy theory is that they lit those houses on fire on purpose with direct energy weapons.
And if you had a blue house, like with a blue ceiling, that the blue ceiling would somehow reflect against this energy weapon and stop your house from burning.
ian fidance
No way.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Not only that, but they used...
Because Biden did some speech, and it is, you know...
Old kind of senile way.
He was talking about how some houses survived because they had the right roof.
And everybody's like, see?
It's the blue roof.
dave attell
That's all it takes.
joe rogan
Yeah, so conspiracy theorists like literally painting their roofs blue to protect them from direct energy weapons.
Jamie, please Google this.
unidentified
No way!
joe rogan
By the way, this might have been one of those things that 4chan started for a fuck, just for goofing with people, and then people ran with it.
Who knows?
Or it might be just people that are out of their fucking minds.
ian fidance
Can you imagine your house burning up because your wife or partner was like, no, don't paint it blue.
joe rogan
Operation Blue Roof.
jamie vernon
That's a thing, but it's not part of the conspiracy thing.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
What is Operation Blue Roof?
jamie vernon
Operation Blue Roof is a thing about getting people blue tarps to cover their roofs.
That's not the same thing as what...
ian fidance
Oh, the tent cities.
unidentified
Allegedly.
Sure.
joe rogan
Allegedly.
Okay, social media posts sharing.
The posts typically include a video from a TikTok account that often shares clips of everyday items being burned by a handheld industrial laser in a workshop.
The clip shows a laser burning yellow, red, and green fabric while a blue swatch is unscathed, with text saying it can be programmed for different wavelengths.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So some lasers don't work on blue ceilings, and these people think that it's the blue roof that'll protect you.
ian fidance
Someone said everything that's blue survived, including t-shirts.
joe rogan
A blue car and some blue beach umbrellas around Front Street along the waterfront were not destroyed in the inferno.
dave attell
And the Blue Man Group.
They were playing in town.
They were doing a road gig.
That is really stretching it, if you ask me.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're going hard on this.
dave attell
This is too much.
joe rogan
DEW stands for Direct Energy Weapons, which use technology like high-energy lasers instead of projectiles like bullets.
These videos are not evidence that they have anything to do with the wildfires.
To start with, they show...
What is the videos they're saying?
Handful of blue items in the fire's aftermath.
But other footage and photos show these were hardly the only things left standing.
But the thing about the direct energy weapon, is there videos of those things being used?
Is a direct energy weapon a real thing, like 100%?
jamie vernon
I think it's true.
dave attell
It's like what you said, lasers.
jamie vernon
So there's videos of the U.S. government talking about direct energy weapons in very broad terms.
dave attell
It's only like 15 bucks a shot.
jamie vernon
But they don't.
dave attell
It's true.
No, they were saying that this will be the best way to shoot down missiles and drones.
joe rogan
High energy lasers and high powered microwaves.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
So they just shot that thing?
dave attell
Nice.
jamie vernon
Almost looks like the drone video.
dave attell
Nice.
joe rogan
So they just shot that out of the sky?
jamie vernon
But it's coming from a boat onto a boat.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, and so what is it?
dave attell
Look at that guy just lovely typing.
joe rogan
Isn't it racist that he's an Asian guy?
dave attell
I thought it'd be an airborne ranger.
joe rogan
The computer guy, we only let Asians handle our computers in the Navy.
It's a DEI. Does it show, what is that video at the bottom?
Why the US military is investing billions?
jamie vernon
It's a 10-minute video.
joe rogan
And it's not right there.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
I guarantee.
They're doing it because they know how to do it.
But by the time they're telling you they're investing billions, they're probably already investing billions.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
They probably figure out...
jamie vernon
There was a video...
joe rogan
Video claiming...
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
They're claiming to show a directed energy weapon is actually an edited clip of an explosion in Russia.
jamie vernon
That's not what I was trying to pull up.
dave attell
Man, this stuff is...
jamie vernon
There was a video of what looked like a laser coming out of the sky.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw that.
jamie vernon
And like during a storm or something like that.
joe rogan
Somebody explained that that's...
That's cell phone, video cameras, like, glitching under the intense exposure of, like, a lightning bolt.
Like, that's something that light flashes and it creates, like, a distortion in some cell phones.
I don't know if that's true, though.
dave attell
So it's a natural thing.
joe rogan
Would that look like?
Show that again?
jamie vernon
I don't know what I was even looking at.
joe rogan
That lady, that video that you just showed?
jamie vernon
No, I know, but I'm trying to...
I don't know what the hell they're showing because I can't hear the sound.
It's showing all sorts of stuff they're talking about.
unidentified
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Just images that were going viral during it.
Some of them are real, some of them are not.
ian fidance
Look at her smiling.
jamie vernon
See, like, right there, for instance.
joe rogan
That's a controlled burn at a Canton refinery in Ohio.
jamie vernon
And because of that light going to the sky, someone thinks it's a laser.
joe rogan
Everybody thinks it's a rainbow.
dave attell
Mm-hmm.
jamie vernon
There's another one.
joe rogan
What is that one?
jamie vernon
SpaceX launch.
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting that people are doing that.
But that's...
Some people are out of their fucking minds.
jamie vernon
There's a thing that happened though on Twitter too.
I feel like this doesn't get talked about sometimes.
People are trying to get engagement money because if you build up an account that can get engagement, it doesn't matter if it's good engagement, bad engagement, you just got to get the numbers.
You can start getting revenue.
So, people are reposting real old viral videos, confusing people with shitposts like this, just to build up the five million views of these fires.
joe rogan
But here's the real conspiracy about the fires.
Like, they haven't done any rebuilding.
Those people, they weren't allowed to have insurance inspectors go in there.
I don't know if they can now.
That people still had to pay their mortgage on those things.
dave attell
Oh, jeez.
joe rogan
And the thing is, it's like...
If you're getting to this point where you don't have anything, and you can't rebuild your house, and you're fucked, and then they come along and offer you a payment or something, or you get foreclosed on because you haven't paid your mortgage, and then the banks own it, and then whoever the fuck is the developer owns it, and then whatever they want to do for the better good of Maui, they build there, and then these people lose everything.
This is what's really scary about it.
The way it's being handled is not like you're handling victims of a natural disaster that's horrific and took more lives than any wildfire in the history of this country.
You're doing it like you are trying to figure out a way to take that from those people.
You're not doing it like you're trying to support those people and build it back.
You're doing it like if you know what's really going on, you're not asking for financial aid for these people to deal with their mortgages, and you're not asking for aid from the government in one of those giant Ukraine bills.
It would take five billion dollars, right?
Wasn't that what the money was?
Five billion to rebuild all those houses?
That's a drop in the bucket to what they're spending in Ukraine.
And there's no consideration at all to do something for these fucking people?
That seems like you don't want to do anything.
dave attell
They declared an emergency, I know, when it happened.
That usually means they can activate all federal funds.
joe rogan
Those people got a one-time payment of 700 bucks.
dave attell
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
One-time payment.
ian fidance
Didn't we get more for stimulus checks?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
That's an outrage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian fidance
Dude, well, fucking FEMA, when Hurricane Katrina hit, I went down to help, like, clean up and rebuild homes and stuff, and they sent us to Foley, Alabama, because they still didn't get relief from Hurricane Ivan, like, years prior.
unidentified
Wow.
ian fidance
So there were still homes with roofs blown off from Hurricane Ivan.
joe rogan
Jesus.
dave attell
So did they tell them we're gonna send down some high school firemen?
Don't hang up the phone.
We're sending some kids.
joe rogan
Don't let them go to your strip club.
dave attell
They're not popular in high school, but they want to be firemen.
They have all the weekend open.
They don't have dates or friends.
unidentified
Hello fellas, I'm here to help.
Hi.
joe rogan
Anybody got a shovel for me?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
ian fidance
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
dave attell
That's what I like.
I know a guy who just took the MTA test and now he's an MTA guy.
You know, that's the guy who drives the trains in the subways.
So I'm like, I wonder what kind of training they give them now because it's more than just driving a train.
It's got to be like, you know, you got to make a choice now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
All right.
Do you pull to the station or do you hit the homeless man who's on the tracks?
Like, what do you do?
You know, like all kinds of hypotheticals.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many times do homeless people get got down there?
dave attell
There's so much going on in that station.
ian fidance
Not even homeless people.
How many people get pushed by homeless people?
dave attell
Someone was pushed.
She had both of her feet amputated, cut right off.
ian fidance
The videos are the best because the people videotaping it aren't upset about the loss of human life.
They're upset because they're late to work.
dave attell
They're late, yeah.
ian fidance
Like, I got somewhere to be.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
So crazy.
The pushing people onto the tracks of things is fucking terrifying.
dave attell
I think that's new, if you ask me.
That's something that's only the last couple of years.
ian fidance
But also it's just so scary because it's random.
At like 8am at a popular station, you know, 3.30 on the work commute.
joe rogan
Do you know how much that's going to ramp up with people coming in from everywhere around the world and not having any jobs that were promised to them and being angry at everybody and knowing they can get away with crime and already being a murderer?
dave attell
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Already committing murder in your country and you got away with it.
Now here you are in America and you're doing fentanyl.
ian fidance
And multiple people that are doing the pushings have been locked up so many times in their family.
They're like, this person is sick.
We've dropped them off at a hospital and they keep getting released.
We don't know what to do.
dave attell
But what can you do, really?
joe rogan
But what can't the government do?
How come they don't...
I mean, this is after the Reagan administration.
They let all the nutty people out the street.
dave attell
Well, Geraldo Rivera was the guy who took that...
You know, he did that documentary on Creed...
What was it?
Like, it was this...
joe rogan
Al Capone's Vault?
dave attell
No, but it was like one of those, but he went to an asylum, and he just saw people laying in their own filth and just how horrible it was, and that was the beginning of basically the defund these psychiatric hospitals, where through medication they were allowed to release them into society, and that's where people are now like, we really could use an asylum right now.
ian fidance
We need to open them up and then incentivize workers with high pay to have smart people with compassion working there, not just bottom of the barrel.
dave attell
That's a tough...
Yeah, that's right.
The Willowbrook.
Yeah.
This is really...
unidentified
Oh, God.
dave attell
Talk about something that's hard to watch.
It's this thing here, man.
joe rogan
Landmark Investigation of Staten Island's Willowbrook State School, an institution for the developmentally disabled.
dave attell
It's terrible.
joe rogan
His expose forever changed the face of mental health.
Ugh.
ian fidance
It's my alma mater.
joe rogan
But that's the fucking horrible thing about people when they can get away with doing things.
When no one's like a rollover or somebody else is like breathing down their neck trying to find out what the fuck is going on.
dave attell
That's institutionalized, yeah.
unidentified
Ugh.
dave attell
But that's what people did back then.
They put them in these places, get them off the streets, you know, and now people are looking at it going like, you know, maybe that's a good idea.
ian fidance
I used to work at a sober living house and one of the kids was like severely autistic and his family would just send him to different rehabs and sober living houses because he was so difficult to deal with and would just say he had a problem with marijuana.
And then the kid learned how to smoke crack from people in the houses.
Yeah.
And he ended up dying in a crack house.
It's like the saddest thing ever.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's the saddest thing ever.
dave attell
What?
ian fidance
This poor kid.
joe rogan
Was that sadder than those guys getting drone bombed?
ian fidance
Well, it's...
joe rogan
Imagine being living in Gaza, you're just fucked.
You're just already fucked.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're just like going, oh my god, let's walk back and see if there's anything there.
ian fidance
Yeah, but imagine...
joe rogan
And the Israeli army is targeting you.
ian fidance
Yeah, but imagine going to a crack house thinking you're going to color with some guy and he ends up killing you.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not good either.
I don't know if it's the saddest thing.
It's definitely sad.
ian fidance
It's parallel sad.
dave attell
But the sober living house, like how does that work?
joe rogan
It's all sad.
ian fidance
Yeah.
What do you mean?
dave attell
I've only seen it on that show with Dr. Drew, the sober living house.
Like, what is it like?
Have you lived in one?
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
What's it like?
Like, you have chores and, you know.
ian fidance
Well, I lived in a three-quarter house, an Oxford house in Delaware.
And so it was self-run.
So everyone had a role, like a comptroller, treasurer, chore coordinator, president of the house.
And we kept each other accountable.
But sober living house, like a halfway house, you have house managers and clinical assistants and everything that basically babysit you and take you.
dave attell
And you have to have a job besides working there, right?
Living there, you have to have a job outside of the house.
ian fidance
Yeah, you help them get jobs and everything.
I like that idea.
Yeah, and then I got fired for drinking, so it didn't end well.
dave attell
That's like the first rule.
You're like, oh, I didn't see that.
ian fidance
Yeah, I didn't read the handbook.
dave attell
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Do they give you a warning, or is this one time?
ian fidance
Oh.
Out.
joe rogan
Out.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
Out.
ian fidance
And they didn't catch me.
I came to them and was like, I fucked up.
I was on the road and I took a two-week bender and it was bad.
And I came back and got fired.
dave attell
Wow.
joe rogan
So were you clean when you came back?
ian fidance
To the house?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or were you still a little drunk?
ian fidance
No, I mean like I hadn't drank yet that day, but I left and got cocked.
dave attell
So did you just stand in your, once you were fired, did you just get in your car and get reloaded in front of the house?
joe rogan
I love that expression.
unidentified
What do you think it is?
I love that expression, I went to get cocked.
joe rogan
That's a great fucking drunk expression.
ian fidance
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Getting cocked.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
That's what, I know a guy who was in a rehab and that he told me, we were like looking out the window and he told me, he goes, you see all those cars over there?
Those are all drug dealers.
They're just waiting for some guy to go, I've had it, and they'll come out.
ian fidance
No way.
dave attell
And they'll like immediately sell them drugs.
And it was like, it was kind of like the shark circling the shark cage.
Like it was that kind of like, they're just out there like, and I'm like, wow, that shouldn't be allowed.
You know, like I'm like an idiot, you know, you shouldn't be there.
joe rogan
Hey fellas, cut it out.
Man, you did your time.
ian fidance
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Celebrate!
dave attell
They're like, yeah, ooh, nice day.
You know, like the slither snake.
ian fidance
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't want to lose a customer.
That's the best way to get them back, when they're vulnerable.
dave attell
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Coming right out.
ian fidance
Well, that, dude, back to that book Dreamland, it talks about these Mexicans from Naira bringing black tar heroin to America, and how it exploded was because of their customer service.
dave attell
Right?
ian fidance
Yeah, they had a paging system, they had cell phones, they would give addicts extra money And be like, hey, it's on the house.
You're a good customer.
And then when they didn't hear from him for a while, since they had their numbers, they'd call them, be like, how are you?
Do you want to meet up?
We have some new heroin if you want to try it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, I do.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
I do.
You're on a tipping point, you're at home in the kitchen, bored, drinking coffee.
dave attell
You caught him at the right time.
joe rogan
You know what, Jose?
I'll see you in five minutes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's go.
ian fidance
Yeah, it was like dominoes for heroin.
joe rogan
Way worse.
Domino's doesn't call you.
Are you hungry, Ian?
Ian, would you like a pizza?
Fuck, I would like a pizza.
How about one on the house, Ian?
Oh, you guys are the best.
I'm a little short on funds right now.
ian fidance
Don't worry about it, Ian.
joe rogan
Pizza's your friend.
ian fidance
Their number one export that they would use all their money, the drug dealers, was Levi's 501 jeans, and they would bring it back to their families, and that would show everyone in Naira, like, wow, we have money now.
So they would raid these places and the closets would be stacked floor to ceiling with jeans.
dave attell
Really?
With an iron crease in them.
I was always like, man, why do they do that?
It's never going to be slacks, it's jeans.
They're like, no, that's how we like it.
ian fidance
It was their sign of opulence.
dave attell
Yeah.
joe rogan
A nice pair of jeans.
dave attell
Well, you ever go to, like, Houston, they always have, like, that Tex-Mex cowboy bar, like, where you're not really supposed to go in there.
It's for other people.
And, like, those guys are dressed up.
You know, they got their jeans ironed.
They got the big 10-gallon on.
You know, it's like a big night out.
And I'm always like, man, good for these guys, man.
And then, of course, there's some kind of shots fired in the parking lot.
Something terrible happens.
But, you know...
You're like, they're cowboys, you know, of course.
joe rogan
Legit cowboys.
dave attell
Yeah, you know, unforgiven here.
There's some issue, you know, some of the cows.
Something about the...
unidentified
Cattle fight.
dave attell
Grazing rights or something.
Those are cool towns, though.
You know, you don't get that much anymore.
Everything looks the same.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
You know, all these towns are the same now.
ian fidance
There's no late night food.
dave attell
No, nowhere.
Well, actually, I think this might be a...
joe rogan
Does New York City still have it?
unidentified
Nope.
dave attell
Well, we just have pizza and...
joe rogan
Katz's Deli's still open.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian fidance
Yeah, but it's like $35 for a fucking pastrami.
dave attell
But not all night.
joe rogan
If you want a fucking pastrami sandwich at four in the morning, you should be willing to pay $35.
dave attell
I'd be willing to pay it, but it's not open.
It's like Vegas.
We were just in Vegas.
That has late night food, and it's pretty good.
What was that place you took?
ian fidance
Oh, Ping Pang Pong.
dave attell
That's a real place.
ian fidance
The Chinese food.
joe rogan
It's open real late?
dave attell
It's like 24 hours.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
dave attell
And the people who work there are angels because they look exhausted.
I mean, you're in a casino working at a Chinese food restaurant.
It's everything you would think.
But then you're like, hey, this food is really good.
I can't believe it.
ian fidance
The best Chinese I've ever had.
joe rogan
Really?
ian fidance
Yeah, I got their Chopsticks logo tattooed on me.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
There's a restaurant inside Encore at the Wynn Hotel.
The Wynn has like a Michelin star Chinese restaurant in it.
I think it's the only restaurant, the only Chinese restaurant in the country, I think, that has a Michelin star or one of the only ones.
It's incredible.
What's that place called, Jamie?
It's incredible.
It's like, what is it called?
Wingley?
Wingley.
Yeah, or Wingley.
ian fidance
L-E? Yeah, I mean, they don't help us.
I sound really racist when I'm naming my favorite Chinese restaurant.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian fidance
Chinese restaurant.
joe rogan
Well, first Chinese restaurant in America to earn a Michelin star.
dave attell
But those are normal hours.
That's like a restaurant.
joe rogan
It's a real restaurant.
You have to dress nice, too.
You can't wear a cut-off...
ian fidance
Woke fried Maine lobster?
That sounds so good.
joe rogan
Woke fried, not woke.
ian fidance
Sorry.
dave attell
Poetry slam.
joe rogan
We fry it in trans tears.
ian fidance
We ask its permission.
dave attell
Take it me.
I'm impressed with Vegas.
I mean, Vegas has really turned the corner.
joe rogan
Oh, Vegas is a different place now.
dave attell
You see it too, right?
joe rogan
Also, Vegas became much more about entertainment than just about gambling.
dave attell
And also, the sphere is a good example of what is possible.
I'm sure that's just the beginning of it, you know?
We went to the BattleBot arena there.
joe rogan
Listen, when you're driving through Vegas and just the neon and all the craziness, it's fucking amazing.
dave attell
It is amazing.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
dave attell
And I did shows at Wise Guys.
It was a great club, by the way, in Vegas.
The locals came out and they were so happy to see a show.
Usually it's casino or whatever, bigger only.
Just to have a regular club there is really cool, too.
And there's a bunch, but this is off the Strip.
It's way off, so it's mostly for the locals.
So it was kind of refreshing to see the locals come out.
Is there a more jaded crowd than a Vegas crowd?
They've seen it all.
unidentified
Probably not, right?
dave attell
Yeah, so they were really cool.
ian fidance
Yeah, they were great.
dave attell
And I like Vegas.
I feel like Vegas has turned the corner, man.
It's popping now.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's a place where people go to have a good time.
So when you do shows there, like doing shows, do you ever do the Mirage?
dave attell
I think so, in the past, for sure.
joe rogan
That's that, uh, what is it?
The Terry Fedor Theater?
dave attell
No, not at the end.
Yeah, he's- I think it was called that.
joe rogan
It was called that.
I think they changed it, but the fucking place is great.
I was there with Gillis, like, a few months back.
It's amazing.
You get in there, and you're like, holy shit, this place is incredible.
I forgot how fun it was.
And it's like, a bunch of people there to have a good time.
It's like, that's what you want.
You want people that are just like, purposely, I'm here to have a good time.
ian fidance
They want fun.
joe rogan
I'm in a town that's specifically designed to have a good time.
dave attell
That's the first place I saw the axe throwing stuff.
They have new ideas.
For some reason, people will bring new ideas and they'll like Vegas.
What's the next thing that people want to do?
What do they want to try?
I think that's a good place.
If you have an idea and you want to see if people are into it, that's the place to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dave attell
So that's where you'll see a lot of these robots and stuff like that there.
They'll have some kind of robot wrestling or something.
joe rogan
Well, it'll be robot prostitutes.
dave attell
Sure.
joe rogan
They'll unleash them.
That'll be the first place they do it, in Vegas.
dave attell
And you know, the weed thing there, too, which is weird that their weed laws are, you can buy it, but you can't really smoke it on the street or in the hotels or anything like that.
So I don't know where people are actually smoking that weed, but that just added another layer.
joe rogan
Gotta go over to someone's house.
It's like an Airbnb for smoke breaks.
dave attell
Just on top of the stratosphere.
You know, you gotta...
ian fidance
This hot box in the battle box arena.
dave attell
But there is the sad of Vegas, and let's face it, there's some, like, you know, you go to old Vegas and you're, like, walking down those streets.
It's sad.
joe rogan
There's definitely a lot of sad in Vegas.
dave attell
There's some fun to it, too, though.
It has all those museums, like, just crazy museums there.
joe rogan
If you're going to have gambling, you're going to have failure.
You have people who just fucking hit the rocks at 400 miles an hour.
ian fidance
4 a.m., you can't quit the penny slots.
joe rogan
People lose everything.
Have you ever seen those videos of people just peeing in their seats because they don't feel like getting up?
unidentified
Nuh-uh.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's this girl.
She's sitting there.
There's this girl sitting there on her phone, and she's sitting at one of the slot machines.
She just pisses.
dave attell
A girl or an older woman?
unidentified
Yeah, a girl.
joe rogan
A lady.
ian fidance
Was she hot?
joe rogan
Look, she's just sitting there pissing.
ian fidance
She's kind of hot.
joe rogan
So she's on the phone.
She says, I'm just going to fucking piss.
So she's just pissing.
While she's sitting there.
ian fidance
But she doesn't look like a degenerate.
She just looks like drunk.
joe rogan
She's probably both.
ian fidance
She's too hot to be like a degenerate.
dave attell
She's probably drunk or something.
joe rogan
Bro, she's just pissing on the ground in front of everybody.
ian fidance
Lucky ground.
joe rogan
And people are filming it.
And she's got like a beautiful purse, nice shoes.
dave attell
That's in Vegas?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave attell
It doesn't really.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
What casino is that at, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
I'm just looking at it.
joe rogan
Woman pees while gambling at casinos.
She refuses to go to the bathroom so she doesn't ruin her luck.
jamie vernon
Take the caption out of it.
Is there any chance that's not what it is?
ian fidance
Yeah, like what if it's coming from her bag or she put a drink in between her legs?
dave attell
What a weird ad for that.
ian fidance
She's really turned on.
joe rogan
I would like to just keep believing she's peeing.
ian fidance
That makes it better.
unidentified
That's what it looks like.
dave attell
What a weird...
joe rogan
It definitely looks like she's peeing.
ian fidance
I can't get over how hot she is.
joe rogan
Apparently, people do do that, though.
I've talked to people.
ian fidance
I was expecting someone in one of those scooters.
jamie vernon
I've seen it in other videos, but this is the one that went around viral.
joe rogan
Right.
That's because she's hot.
ian fidance
Don't they do that in Times Square?
dave attell
Everywhere.
ian fidance
With a ball drop?
dave attell
That people are peeing and shitting everywhere.
ian fidance
Don't people wear diapers because it's so crowded?
dave attell
You're not allowed to leave once you get in that security zone.
ian fidance
They should all die.
dave attell
What?
unidentified
Sorry.
ian fidance
If you're wearing a diaper to go see something and you can't pee, you're useless.
unidentified
Anyway, that was weird.
dave attell
I'm not wearing a diaper today.
I changed my catheter.
joe rogan
Imagine they gave you that option that just connected you.
Would you like to be connected to the urinal?
You're like, yeah, sure, just connect me.
And they just strap you in, put you in a chair, and you just zip your dong.
Just let it hang out.
You can pee at any time.
You're in a bag.
You're in a blue, dark bag.
dave attell
I hate those machines.
unidentified
As long as I didn't have to sit in it, I'd do that.
dave attell
Those machines suck.
I'd rather play blackjack than I was playing them with you and these dumb machines.
It's like, by the time you figure it out, you're already about $100 into these dumb games.
And then I'm like, look at all this information, and it's like, you never know if you're winning or not.
It's like, why am I hitting an idiot?
You're hitting the butt, waiting for a treat to come out.
unidentified
Ding, ding, ding.
dave attell
But I like the classic, and you know, it's just, I don't know how people do it.
ian fidance
And then every time it came around me, I started losing it.
dave attell
Yeah, it was a dark cloud.
joe rogan
Slot revenue made up 66.3% of total gaming win.
Wow!
Penny slots generated 9.6% of total slot win with $3.15 billion, which is pennies.
dave attell
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Which is down 12% from 2022, while slots that accept multiple denominations generated $5.9 billion, up 16.7% from last year.
So people are getting dumber.
dave attell
People always have money to gamble.
ian fidance
They're getting dumber.
joe rogan
They're blowing more money on slot machines.
ian fidance
I'm a part of it.
dave attell
What's your biggest win on a slot?
ian fidance
$1,100.
dave attell
And how long did it take you to get that?
ian fidance
I was there for like an hour.
unidentified
That's not bad.
joe rogan
If you had to guess, though, how much are you in the hole to slot machines all time?
ian fidance
Oh, Joe.
So much.
Well, I mean, I lost like three grand when I was in Vegas.
joe rogan
On slot machines?
ian fidance
Well, I play a little roulette, too.
dave attell
I like how that's your backup game.
Roulette.
I understand this game.
I'm an idiot.
Guessing.
I'm guessing.
ian fidance
Last night on stage, I lost $20 betting someone on rock, paper, scissors in the front row.
I love gambling.
I'm not good at it.
joe rogan
Are you a sports guy, too?
ian fidance
No, I don't like sports.
dave attell
Sports, because we really can make it.
ian fidance
I don't understand the over-unders and the parlays.
dave attell
Yeah, but we've been to the track on the road, and that's fun.
And that's another one where it takes forever to figure it out, the trifectas and the quintelas and all those other...
unidentified
Those track junkies are weird folk.
ian fidance
Oh, yeah.
My uncle was one of them.
He got me to pull the trigger on the start of a race once.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
dave attell
It's a fun date, though.
Like, if you take a girl, it's like, hey, this is kind of cool.
Like, we're the upper class.
But it's like you're surrounded by some of the saddest people who've ever lived.
You know, the people who live at the track.
joe rogan
The saddest shit is off-track betting.
dave attell
Oh, that was so much fun.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dave attell
OTB. Yeah.
unidentified
Remember that?
dave attell
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
In New York, they had off-track betting.
ian fidance
Oh, Chinatown is everywhere.
joe rogan
Gambling junkies would go and bet on the races from the middle of nowhere.
dave attell
That was the most unhealthiest place.
Like, you would walk in, it was like waves of smoke.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
Oh, man, it was just terrible going in there.
I remember people, like, I was like, do you have a bathroom here?
I'm like, what are you talking about?
There's no bathroom here.
joe rogan
People would be living in it.
dave attell
Yeah, come on.
joe rogan
They'd be taking showers in there.
Yeah, off-track betting was this guy, White Plains Charlie, that I used to hang around with.
White Plains in executive billiards in White Plains.
And he would always go to off-track betting during the day.
He'd come back complaining.
ian fidance
What is off-track betting?
dave attell
This is before the internet where you'd put it in and you'd be able to bet on races around the country, you know?
joe rogan
So you're betting on horse races, but you're nowhere near the horse race.
And all these fucking psychotic gamblers.
dave attell
These guys are nuts.
joe rogan
Look at these people.
They're all just completely addicted.
They're all shady.
Everyone's in there.
Everyone's fucked their whole life up with this addiction.
ian fidance
Yeah, that was my uncle, man.
joe rogan
And they're just donating money.
dave attell
You know, I remember...
It looks like the DMV. I was gonna say, like, I remember walking past, I was like, is this like the cab authority?
Is this like where the cabbies hang out?
joe rogan
Look how sad these guys look.
Like, give me a click on some of the folks hanging out there.
dave attell
They're great.
joe rogan
They just look like everything's gone wrong.
ian fidance
Look at that guy.
joe rogan
I'll fucking tell you what the government's plan is.
Yeah, they're all just junkies.
ian fidance
It's the name of one of the horse's government's plan.
dave attell
It was a nice way to spend an afternoon.
That's how they portrayed it on the commercial.
joe rogan
Just a bunch of junkies.
ian fidance
Oh, God.
Ghost of Wagers Pass.
Still living.
dave attell
Yeah, they closed all...
This is all down.
joe rogan
They don't have off-track betting anymore?
dave attell
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Why did they make that illegal?
ian fidance
Near the Manhattan Bridge.
dave attell
Do you think?
I think so.
joe rogan
Life-long Upper West Side.
Cider makes documentary about off-track betting.
unidentified
Oh, look.
dave attell
That looks classy, though.
joe rogan
That's a nice one.
dave attell
Yeah, that's a nice one.
joe rogan
That's the Upper West Side.
dave attell
They're betting on something besides horses there, I think.
That's like falconry or something.
Something another level of animal.
joe rogan
Well, there's always dog races too, right?
dave attell
Yeah, I've been to those in person, and they were a lot of fun.
ian fidance
Really?
dave attell
You know, they used to have the thing where they, this was like a rite of passage or at a state fair where they had monkeys riding dogs, and they were like, this has got to end now.
And I'm like, oh, come on, it's hilarious.
You know, and the monkeys would be like riding them around, they'd have them do a circle.
Man, that was really fun.
I think everybody had a good time.
The dog, the monkey, everybody's having a good time in that one.
joe rogan
I saw a video today of India, and these folks are walking down this road, and this monkey runs up behind and just dropkicks this lady.
Yeah, see?
Look at this.
Monkey riding dogs.
dave attell
It's a good heat.
I got the guy in red.
I got the guy in red.
ian fidance
Purple's making a comeback.
joe rogan
Hey, stop.
Hey, what's going on?
unidentified
Whoa!
ian fidance
We should have bet!
dave attell
Oh, this is such a lame one.
But look at the dogs!
joe rogan
He's easily distracted.
dave attell
You're taking a bow.
ian fidance
Do any of the monkeys rip the dogs' faces off?
dave attell
That's great.
joe rogan
No, they know better than that.
Dogs will bite their fucking head off.
ian fidance
Are they friends?
Like, do they get along?
joe rogan
They have to be buddies.
The dogs don't seem to mind.
dave attell
They have to split the purse.
joe rogan
The dogs probably, for the dogs, probably like being pet.
Like, yeah, he's petting me.
unidentified
Aww.
joe rogan
He's riding me.
ian fidance
He's wearing a little dress.
joe rogan
And they don't weigh much.
ian fidance
Oh, that's so fun.
joe rogan
So these people are walking down this road in India, and this monkey runs up behind them, dropkicks this one lady, and then runs a little further, and dropkicks this little kid, and then just runs off.
Like, 100% did it on purpose.
ian fidance
That's great.
joe rogan
Fuck these people.
dave attell
That's great.
ian fidance
He's a migrant.
dave attell
What an angry.
joe rogan
Runs up with its back feet.
dave attell
Like a dropkick, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a real pro wrestling dropkick.
ian fidance
Did he try to steal their purse, or was it love of the game?
joe rogan
No, just fucked them up.
Just the love of the game.
ian fidance
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Just dropped some bombs on these fucking fools.
ian fidance
That's the best.
dave attell
Oh, nice one!
joe rogan
Oh, bro.
dave attell
You've been served.
It's like, boom!
unidentified
This monkey just decided to fuck this dude up.
dave attell
Well, he's egging him on, though.
joe rogan
He's like, fuck you.
ian fidance
Did he give him the finger?
dave attell
Oh my god!
He tried to stand his ground, but the monkey's like...
unidentified
Yeah, he tried to say fuck you to the monkey.
dave attell
That guy, I hate to say it.
joe rogan
He left his thing behind.
ian fidance
He's so disoriented.
dave attell
Where's the monkey?
Is this outdoors or is it indoors?
joe rogan
The one that I saw, it was outdoors.
dave attell
That's a scary attack.
joe rogan
They'll steal your fucking kids, man.
dave attell
This is crazy.
Oh, look at those tails, man.
ian fidance
Oh, they're dragging the girl.
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, dude, that's sketchy.
I would not let the monkey grab my fucking kid.
ian fidance
No!
joe rogan
But then you've got to realize, like, they'll fuck you up.
Like, a little monkey will fuck you up.
They can't treat it like it's a little person.
dave attell
They must think we're so stupid.
Like, they just keep feeding them.
I mean, honestly.
joe rogan
Well, in a lot of places, they'll take your phone.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
In order to give the phone back, you have to give them something.
ian fidance
That's smart.
joe rogan
You have to give them food.
dave attell
Yep.
ian fidance
Can you train the monkey to steal a phone and give it to you so you can sell it?
joe rogan
I'm sure you can.
dave attell
And that's in like, where is it where they live in like a monastery or a ruin or something like that?
They kind of control the town.
I think it's in India or Thailand or something like that where it's like just troops of monkeys, hundreds of them stop traffic and they can't do anything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You can't fight them unless you're willing to go to war.
You've got to really be willing to go to war.
ian fidance
What's your weapon?
joe rogan
You've got to need machine guns.
dave attell
Yeah, how would you fight the monkey army?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're going to swarm on you.
You've got to be able to maybe even...
Yeah, you need something where you've got multiple rounds.
No, they'll take that mace around away from you and stuff it up your ass.
They'll jump on your face and bite your nose off, and then you drop the mace, and then they beat you to death with the mace.
Like, you're fucked.
You've got to have a motorcycle helmet on, Kevlar suit.
dave attell
There it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian fidance
You gotta look like Tex Cobb in Raising Arizona.
joe rogan
Exactly.
No, but he was still vulnerable.
The skin was exposed.
You want to literally be wearing like a motorcycle riding outfit made out of Kevlar.
ian fidance
Oh my god, look at them!
dave attell
That's like two troops of monkeys going at it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fighting.
dave attell
Look at that.
joe rogan
Well, this was, I think, during COVID. One of the things that happened during COVID was they didn't have access to all the tourists.
So they were starving.
So they had to become dependent upon people and where people would hang out and leave food.
dave attell
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian fidance
Look at those guys.
joe rogan
They're probably fucking starving.
dave attell
That's a nice spread, though, that they put out for them.
joe rogan
That is pretty sweet.
dave attell
Yeah, that's good.
joe rogan
Sort of like...
ian fidance
One guy was dressed as a monkey.
I'm infiltrating.
joe rogan
A nice little buffet.
Look at this.
Sort of cool.
They're all different plates of food.
dave attell
Like a carnival cruise.
unidentified
Yeah, it's nice.
dave attell
They're at the buffet.
It's like all you can eat.
unidentified
Look at them.
joe rogan
They're fucking having a good old time.
You would think that with all this nice treatment, they wouldn't steal any babies, but they still will.
What's that?
jamie vernon
These guys are wearing a giant mask.
dave attell
They're so smart.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
ian fidance
He's their leader.
joe rogan
I think that might be a statue.
Is that a statue or a dude?
dave attell
Oh, yeah, that's like the god.
They're worshipped.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Whoa.
dave attell
Oh, that looks like rats.
I know.
joe rogan
It's so wild what people choose to and choose not to worship.
Look, he's shaking it off.
It's like, enough for the table, boys.
Boy, what a fucking horrible life that is.
Imagine being a monkey in India and no tourists show up and you're like, you gotta be kidding.
Where's the food, man?
dave attell
If they only had dogs to ride, then they could make a living.
They could really make a difference.
joe rogan
Do you know the story of Cobra Charmers?
dave attell
No.
joe rogan
Cobra Charmers started because they started offering people money to kill cobras.
And so what people realized is you could breed cobras and then kill those cobras.
And so every cobra you capture and kill, they give you a little bit of money.
So they started breeding cobras.
And so then the government got wise to it and say, hey, stop.
You can't do this.
b-real
No more bounty on cobras.
joe rogan
And they're like, what are we gonna do with these fucking cobras?
And so they started fucking doing shows with him.
ian fidance
No shit!
dave attell
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Let's see if that's true.
dave attell
Did you just tell us?
Did you make this up?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Imagine if I made it up.
But I don't remember the source.
Which is often the case.
I don't remember the source of that story.
unidentified
You mean we can't make these Cobras fuck anymore?
joe rogan
I mean, it makes sense.
People find ways.
dave attell
Where are they native to?
That's India?
Like, where are the Cobras?
joe rogan
I believe it's India.
I mean, think about the people going back and forth from Mexico and making $8,000 a month.
Like, same kind of deal.
People find a little loophole.
Like, oh, I got an idea.
ian fidance
He's gonna breed Cobras.
Bro, I'm breeding Cobras.
Making the criminals.
dave attell
That's another tough one.
joe rogan
How many guys died breeding Cobras?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
I'm looking through the thing, but that's a pretty sneaky thing I never heard.
joe rogan
For safety, some North American snake charmers stitch close the mouth of the performing snakes, leaving just enough opening for the animal to be able to move its tongue in and out.
Members of the audience in that region believe the snake's ability to deliver venomous bites comes from its tongue rather than its fangs.
But snakes subjected to this practice soon die of starvation or mouth infection must be replaced by freshly caught specimens.
Similar methods are used in India where snakes are defanged and have their venom glands incapacitated.
They are also kept in boxes or bags for 30 to 45 days and dehydrated so their muscles cramp, making them sluggish.
So they will drink the milk offered by the devotees at festivals.
The milk is undigestible to the snake.
dave attell
Wow, that's abuse!
joe rogan
Methods of dealing with the fangs include expert surgical removal of both of the fangs and replacement fangs which has been done by some Native American and African snake charmers.
Barring extraordinary measures pulled fangs are replaced within days.
Fangs may also be plugged with wax or other material.
dave attell
Well, so it's like a three-chord Monty, kind of like, you're thinking the guy could really die, nothing could happen to him.
joe rogan
Right, but see if that's the origin of us, that they used to, Google that, like if they used to give bounties for Cobras, but people took advantage of it.
Pretty sure that's a real story.
jamie vernon
This has the history.
It goes all the way back to ancient Egypt.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
A viper.
joe rogan
But in India, what I'm talking about is the bounty on Cobra thing.
ian fidance
The real money is in being a snake dentist with all those fang removals.
joe rogan
I'm not saying that they invented it, but I'm saying that's where it came from, where there were so many of them, and it was associated with India.
These are people that...
Apparently he had a bunch of snakes laying around.
Like, look, we need to figure out a way to fucking diversify.
ian fidance
Wasn't that St. Patrick?
Didn't he chase all the snakes out of Ireland?
Wasn't he the guy?
dave attell
But what are you supposed to do?
joe rogan
Imagine a snake living in Ireland.
It's so cold.
It's probably easy to chase him out of there.
ian fidance
Bring me back to India and take my teeth out.
dave attell
What happens with the...
Like, were you supposed to tip that guy?
jamie vernon
It's like a street performance.
This is in a longer article.
The first paragraph says...
joe rogan
Legend goes that a cobra infestigation plagued Delhi in the 1800s, so the British Raj decided to offer a cash reward for every dead cobra.
The menace briefly subsided until the plan backfired.
Savvy Indians built cobra farms so they could have a constant supply of snakes to kill and redeem for money.
unidentified
Wow.
dave attell
You were right.
joe rogan
The British eventually uncovered the scheme and ended its incentive.
With no use for the now worthless snakes, breeders released the creatures onto Delhi's streets.
dave attell
Wow.
You were right, man.
joe rogan
So it made the problem worse.
That's right.
That's what it was.
ian fidance
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
I fucked up the story.
dave attell
No, you got a lot of it, right?
ian fidance
Yeah, you nailed it.
joe rogan
The problem worse.
dave attell
Oh, shit.
ian fidance
Man.
joe rogan
Yeah, people are gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're like, fuck these cobras.
They just let them loose.
dave attell
You don't see that on New York streets anymore, like performing dogs or any of that kind of stuff.
You don't see any kind of animal.
joe rogan
That's illegal, but you can just go shit in the curb.
dave attell
Yeah, well, that's fine.
ian fidance
That's it.
That's a performance.
dave attell
You will see somebody who's like, you know, I'm a squatter with a dog and the poor dog's there all day long, you know, just like laying next to him.
Is that?
That I always feel like.
ian fidance
Are those dogs drugged or are they so socialized that they're just docile?
dave attell
I think that's what they're used to living like that.
ian fidance
You think?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just used to that existence.
dave attell
But you're really giving money to the dog, hoping that he'll take the money and take care of the dog, but really, we don't know what he's doing.
joe rogan
A homeless guy without a dog is probably like 60% less effective than a homeless guy with a dog.
That's my rough estimation.
ian fidance
Yeah.
dave attell
You remember Norm MacDonald's joke about the homeless guy with the dog?
It's like, wow, what is the dog thinking?
This is the longest walk ever.
Are we ever going home?
Man, it's been going on for days now.
joe rogan
That's the fucked up thing about dogs.
They're so awesome.
They'll love you even if you're just homeless and just fucking lazy as shit and never getting anything done.
They still love you.
It's real unconditional love.
dave attell
It's beautiful.
ian fidance
My cat does that.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
The cat will eat you when you die.
dave attell
Cats have feelings.
unidentified
Within seconds.
joe rogan
Within seconds.
unidentified
I'll be one with him, finally.
ian fidance
I'll be inside of him.
joe rogan
All right, kids.
Let's wrap this bitch up and bring it home.
Ian, very fun.
Thank you for being here.
ian fidance
This is a blast.
Thank you, man.
joe rogan
My pleasure, brother.
Thank you very much.
ian fidance
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm excited to see you guys this weekend.
dave attell
Thank you, buddy.
joe rogan
So, Dave, you're the fucking man.
I love you to death.
You're one of the best of all time.
dave attell
Joe, thank you for all of us for doing what you do, man.
Honestly, it was a great hang.
And the club, I can't wait to be there.
joe rogan
We're excited!
Okay, that's it.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Oh, you special?
When is it coming out?
dave attell
March 26, Netflix.
Hot Crust Buns.
unidentified
Yes!
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