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Feb. 29, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2111 - Katt Williams
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unidentified
What's up?
How are you?
joe rogan
I can't believe we never met each other until today.
That's kind of crazy.
katt williams
It's really weird.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy.
It was always, like, at the store, like, Kat was here last night.
I'm like, fuck!
It was always two ships in the night.
katt williams
Right.
I would see you and not be able to get to you.
Like, comedy is small, but only if you're mediocre.
It's big, it's a vast, vast place.
joe rogan
It's vast and it's also small, because there's so few of us.
And worldwide, we were talking about this the other day, there's maybe 500 of us on the planet.
You know, you gotta be real generous and say 500, because it's really probably about 250. Right.
But legit comics, guys you want to hang out with, guys who are fun, guys who you recommend...
katt williams
Your number's going down.
Your number's going down!
Your number's going down.
joe rogan
Guys you'd recommend, leave your house, get a babysitter, the number's going down.
It's not a lot of people.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
You think about the billions and billions of people on the planet, there's a little smidgen of us.
katt williams
Well, as...
As children, we all take to talking with ease.
And so the fact that later on in your life, you'd be one of the people that could say, I talk for a living, is an amazing honor.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
katt williams
Even if you look a thousand years back.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially today.
Did you be able to talk for a living?
Oh my God.
What?
That's the problem also with what we do, is that everybody can talk.
So they see you talking, they're like, I can do what he's doing.
He's just up there talking.
katt williams
And the better you do it, the easier it looks, which is part of the trap.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's part of the trap.
katt williams
It looks like he doesn't think about what he says, he just says stuff.
But you couldn't be as accurate.
joe rogan
No, no.
And then there's hanging around with comics and getting to know about shit like their electric Rolls Royces.
katt williams
Right.
Right, if Satan hits me, just know I'm hitting back immediately.
You're gonna know about it if I've never heard.
Yeah, the electric specter.
joe rogan
That thing is insane.
That thing's insane.
Just the way the doors open up, the way the doors close when you touch the brakes.
Totally silent.
katt williams
For the price point, it would have to be perfect.
And the whole thing is, it is.
And that's what you're trying to do in any genre.
You're trying to find that thing that is flawless in that genre.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
And that's it.
joe rogan
That's the Rolls Royce.
I've never had one of those.
katt williams
Right.
Well, because it's important to you that you be grounded in the important ways.
So I can see you having not had a Rolls Royce.
unidentified
I've had four, five.
joe rogan
I'm not opposed to it.
It's just the idea of it to me is like, don't do that.
For me.
You know, I'm always like, eh, get away from that.
katt williams
Right, right.
Well, see?
You see what I mean?
Yeah, because...
Because we live vicariously through these things, and it's been that way for all of humankind.
It was still like that for the Roman and his chariot.
That's how he felt.
That's how horsemen feel about that ride.
Transportation and people have a love story.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's really the only object that I'm really into.
unidentified
Vehicles?
joe rogan
Yeah, vehicles.
I'm into mechanical vehicles.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
There's something about mechanical vehicles that just speak to me.
I love them.
I love looking at them.
I love sitting in them.
I love driving them.
It's one of the things that people say, like, money can't buy you happiness.
That's definitely true.
If you're fucked up, you're not going to get happier if you get rich.
But if you're already reasonably happy and you can afford a nice muscle car, God damn, you'll feel happier.
You will feel happier.
katt williams
But every time.
joe rogan
Every time you drive it.
katt williams
So what I'm saying is when I got the 67 Chevy Camaro, I needed no other cars.
I was complete.
unidentified
Yeah.
katt williams
When I got the Grand National, you couldn't tell me anything.
There was nothing on the highway that was of my ilk.
But I've felt that way 12, 13 times.
That's what makes it real love.
joe rogan
Yeah, they give you real joy every time you drive them.
katt williams
And you feel like...
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you drive a 1970 Chevelle, you feel like John Wick.
katt williams
Yeah, it's a sacred, sacred place.
There's music there, there's recklessness, but there's safety.
It's like it gets to the essence of a being.
joe rogan
And I think it's a thing that won't exist 100 years from now.
I think automated driving will be mandatory.
I really do.
I think we're about 100 years away.
100 years away from no personal automobiles.
No control of your vehicle.
We're going to stop all crashes.
We could stop all crashes and all highway deaths.
Come on, Kat.
Won't you contribute and give up all your rights to drive?
We're going to stop all death.
katt williams
Yeah, it's not.
But understand that it...
All of these things have financial benefits, and then they use those perks you just mentioned to get you in.
But somebody's making money.
I believe that it'll be mandatory.
But for practical reasons, like this thing where...
The police want you and they have to chase you and you may get away.
Those days are done.
joe rogan
They're just going to shut your car off.
katt williams
Your car is going to do what they tell it to do, which is get behind this patrol car and follow us to the station.
joe rogan
There's speculation that they've had that for a long time, you know.
There was that famous journalist, Michael Hastings?
That was his name?
There's this journalist.
I don't know if you know this story, but it's pretty crazy.
This guy went to Afghanistan?
It was Afghanistan with the troops.
And he was only supposed to be there writing a Rolling Stone article about this general for a very short amount of time.
But then there was a volcano in Iceland.
And the volcano in Iceland stopped air travel.
So this journalist from the Rolling Stone was embedded In this troop.
And they started talking shit.
And he started reporting the shit that they were talking, including disparaging comments that the General had said about Obama.
So the general gets back.
He has to retire.
He has to, you know, it's the Rolling Stone expose.
It's a big deal because everybody loves his general.
So he retires and this Michael Hastings guy is on the run and he's terrified.
He's telling people if I commit suicide, I did not kill myself.
People are threatening my life.
And then he's going down La Brea and his car is going like 120 miles an hour.
Just slams into a tree and explodes and there's a video footage of it.
This dude is just fly, look at that, flying down the street.
Hits a tree and the car explodes and they asked security experts at that time, I think there's like 2005?
2004, 2005?
Is it possible to control a vehicle remotely?
They said, does your vehicle have a computer?
If your vehicle has a computer, they can control it.
Period.
There's a way.
katt williams
And they know that.
joe rogan
And they've been doing that for...
This is...
2010. 2010. So this is 14 fucking years ago.
katt williams
Easy peasy.
joe rogan
If they could do that then, what can they do now?
Let's just shut your fucking car right off.
unidentified
That's when his article came out.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
So I think the accident was 2013. Oh.
Well, how was the article in 2010 if the accident's in 2013?
unidentified
Well, the article came out first and exposed McChrystal.
joe rogan
Oh, the Rolling Stone article.
I thought you meant the article on the accident.
katt williams
If you actually do reading about Tesla...
See, that's the thing, Joe.
That's why I love history so much.
Because once you find out that this world is a circle, you can never get lost.
Like, you can look at certain things and it'll tell you what's going to happen later.
Like, with amazing accuracy.
joe rogan
Like...
katt williams
Yeah, like, that's how I knew that things like what you showed me with Hastings, that those were real things.
It's not...
joe rogan
They've always been real.
katt williams
It's everybody who has ever been killed in one of those ways.
There was a financial benefit to it.
It was obvious.
It was easy.
You know where it came from.
It's just that they do a good job.
But how is that difficult if that's your job?
Like, they do this...
They do this really well.
They do it worldwide.
joe rogan
Also, this guy fucked with the worst person you could fuck with.
A high-ranking beloved general who's in charge of trained killers who love him.
And you don't think he could put one of those dudes on you with a coffee meeting?
Just have a sit-down at Starbucks with no phones on you?
And let me explain what's going on.
katt williams
A shadow government is no more difficult than a government.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And so, not only that, they don't have to get elected.
It's even better.
Even nicer.
They stay for a long time.
I mean, think about J. Edgar Hoover.
How long did that motherfucker stay in power for?
He was running the FBI wearing a dress for like 30 years.
katt williams
Because of what you just discussed.
That's why I can speak with impunity about the Illuminati, because I know who you would have to be in order for what I'm saying to bother you, number one.
Number two, I know your big secret.
I know that you're not the Illuminati.
I am.
You can't be illuminated.
You're too dark.
But the difficulty is getting people to believe something that they don't want to believe.
And in each of these cases, this is where the money is.
If you're just a capitalist, it is find something, establish a value for it, and make sure that that includes your profit and make sure people really want it.
It's very fundamental.
joe rogan
Also, if you're running corporations and you're making billions of dollars, you're going to get bored.
What's the ultimate game?
The ultimate game is to run the whole world.
Do you know what the ultimate game is, Cat?
katt williams
I do.
joe rogan
We have an overpopulation problem, Cat.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an overpopulation problem.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
And we're going to be able to mitigate that with vaccines.
We're going to be able to mitigate that with healthcare.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
We're going to figure that out.
We're going to get rid of a bunch of people.
katt williams
We used to be able to do it with neglect, and it was called nature's way.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
You know?
Like, whatever was ailing you, it wasn't ailing everybody in the world.
The Chinese didn't have it because they had 6,000 herbs 6,000 years ago and knew what each one did.
joe rogan
People are very resistant to that when they don't realize that almost all pharmaceutical drugs come from plants.
katt williams
You can't be against the originals.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
That's government propaganda working on you.
Remember when they had Marinol, when they were making weed illegal and the people were going through cancer and their doctors were prescribed them weed for chemotherapy?
So they gave them Marinol.
Do you remember that shit?
unidentified
I do.
joe rogan
It's like a synthetic version of weed that's terrible.
katt williams
But terrible is subjective to nothing.
So they have this oil-like cannabis that is for people having seizures.
And it's the only thing that will stop a seizure.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's incredible.
katt williams
But here's the thing.
The fact that there is a God is the biggest...
It's a conversation worldwide, but the truth of the matter is there is more reason for you to believe there is a God than there is for you to not.
Like the way that things interact, like if we're just talking about marijuana or alcohol or whatever that is, You have to understand that this thing serves no other purpose than to bring pleasure to this small group of beings.
And the fact that it already was set up to do that, the fact that it was already set up on this planet for there to be medicines for us to find and to utilize.
You see what I'm saying?
It's not like, oh, yeah, so he made a cow.
No.
To make a cow, it means you had to also have made grass.
And it means you would have had to have invented a whole new eating system for this animal, which was cud.
And that means you would then have to have given him three stomachs to be able to...
And you would have to have known that he was going to then emit a gas that was going to be necessary on the planet.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Like none of these things.
joe rogan
Fertilizer, all of it.
katt williams
Right.
The fact that everything goes together is how you know.
joe rogan
It's pretty wild.
And every time we step in and fuck with it, it goes haywire.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Every time human beings do it.
katt williams
Predictably haywire.
Haywire.
joe rogan
Haywire.
katt williams
Right.
But that's part of the benefits of free will.
Is you really can jump into a volcano, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
katt williams
You really can.
joe rogan
I mean, think about what we've done to wildlife.
The craziest thing in this country, especially right here, is pigs.
Bro, wild pigs are everywhere.
And there's so many of them.
I went to a friend of mine's farm, or well, it's like a ranch, to hunt wild pigs.
And you just hear them like Lord of the Rings characters in the bushes.
And there's...
150 of them near you.
250 of them.
Thousands on the ranch.
They're all over the place.
And they have three litters a year.
And they start having litters when they're six months old.
They just pump out piglets.
Let's go.
katt williams
You can tell they're not delicious.
joe rogan
They are delicious.
katt williams
Oh, well then here we go then.
They're delicious.
We don't really have a problem then, do we?
joe rogan
No, we have a we need to eat pigs problem.
katt williams
No, we need to be sending this off somewhere to someone who does.
joe rogan
Well, definitely we should.
That would be an easy way to solve a lot of hunger problems.
katt williams
I'm saying we live in a country where we're complaining about food sources.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
katt williams
These chickens are pecking us to death.
They're everywhere.
I can't even sleep.
Yeah, but they're delicious, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Have more chickens.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, we do have an overabundance problem, for sure.
We really do.
But the pig thing is a wild one.
It's hard to get them.
Like, they're very smart, and they spread out, and there's so fucking many of them, they shoot them with helicopters.
Oh yeah, I've seen it.
I haven't been invited three times since I moved here to go shoot pigs out of a helicopter.
katt williams
But that's part of the reason that you came to Texas.
joe rogan
The freedom, for sure.
katt williams
Texas is a place of great adventure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
And people who believe in that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
It's really God's country in the right places.
joe rogan
It is in the right places.
I think you're going to have annoying people everywhere you go in this world.
But in general, I think the people here overall are nicer, they're friendlier, and they're not captured.
They're not captured by the ether of Hollywood.
They haven't been sucked into the vortex of ideological thinking and just that weirdness of that town.
So when you escape that and just be around regular people, you're like, oh, people are all right.
I've just been in an insane asylum, looking for a girlfriend.
You have to be in a place where you're around good people, like normal people.
That's better for you.
katt williams
You're not trying to say that people that happen to live there are not nice people.
joe rogan
There's a lot of nice people there, for sure.
katt williams
Here's the thing.
Hopefully we can agree that the problem is with extremes.
Yes.
Extreme anything.
Yes.
Extreme left is as vicious and as far right.
joe rogan
Yep.
katt williams
It's, you know, the middleness of it all that makes America great.
For sure.
Forever.
joe rogan
I think a big part of it though is how much does your government control you?
Even when things don't even make sense.
Like in California, they made flavored vapes illegal.
Can you imagine?
Strawberry mist is our number one problem.
katt williams
That was fine, but they let it also hurt black people in that it counted menthol as a flavor and hurt Newports.
joe rogan
So you can't sell menthol cigarettes in California?
katt williams
Right.
They have their own cigarettes.
unidentified
That is wild.
katt williams
They have non-menthol Newports.
It's terrible.
joe rogan
Why do black people like menthol so much?
What's that about?
It's a totally different type of cigarette.
katt williams
You're going to get me canceled.
joe rogan
No!
katt williams
This is very racist, this conversation.
Even though neither of us are.
joe rogan
Just talking about a type of cigarette that people enjoy?
katt williams
Just saying, why do black people like Newport so much?
And a black person actually getting ready to answer this?
Ugh.
It's terrible on all ends.
joe rogan
I don't think it is.
katt williams
Well, I don't think it is either because we have a new...
joe rogan
It's like if you started asking me about spaghetti.
I'm not going to get offended.
You started asking me about Italian food or why are Italian people so loud.
I'm not going to get offended.
katt williams
How many people have ever died of pasta-related illnesses?
A lot, Joe.
joe rogan
A lot of fatzos out there kicking the bucket, bro.
katt williams
That's not because of pasta.
joe rogan
That's an overabundance of carbohydrates, sir.
katt williams
They were going to be fat wherever they lived, sir.
joe rogan
Maybe.
katt williams
That's an overindulgence of delicious high-carbohydrate food.
joe rogan
They couldn't stop it.
People are addicted to food like they're addicted to anything.
If there's a thing that I could ever be addicted to, it's that.
katt williams
Right.
That's all of us, though.
joe rogan
All of us.
katt williams
And what a blessing.
joe rogan
Yeah, we have so much.
katt williams
Starving people aren't addicted to anything, and they don't have food-related illnesses.
joe rogan
Exactly.
katt williams
But, back to where we were.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
You were asking me about the menthol cigarettes.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
katt williams
And the answer is we value strength in product.
So there's this whole thing with liquor and malt liquor and the difference between the two and one is richer and stronger.
joe rogan
The more potent version.
katt williams
Right.
And as a people, we tend to go with those products.
joe rogan
Things that are stronger.
That makes sense.
katt williams
Right.
Like before things were called concentrate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
That's what we appreciated.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
katt williams
Concentrated.
And the fact that...
Menthol is a natural thing.
Anybody who is from the South knows about mint plants.
joe rogan
And menthol used as a skincare product, like injuries and shit.
katt williams
Right, like you appreciate that as a flavor profile as well.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
katt williams
The mint julep.
joe rogan
It's just telling people they can't have that anymore.
Who the fuck are you?
That's my position.
katt williams
Well, and that's a noble position, and we appreciate the fact that you represent that, but the truth of the matter is not pretty.
And the truth of the matter is that most people would like to be controlled more by their government.
joe rogan
To make it easier?
Maybe.
katt williams
Most people are all for government control, as long as they don't have to discuss it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
As long as it works in their favor, they'll give up a lot of rights.
And then hopefully the next administration that's...
katt williams
Rights are generally worthless at the time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of people that if the government can make life easier...
A lot of people have it hard, right?
So the government comes in and says, I'm going to make it easier for you, but I'm going to need certain requirements of you.
I'm going to need you to have a digital ID. That digital ID will be attached to a social credit score.
And we're going to give you universal basic income.
You no longer have to worry about food or shelter.
You'll be taken care of, and now you can pursue your dreams.
katt williams
Is this the mark of the beast you're speaking of, sir?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it is.
katt williams
Right.
That's the whole thing, is it's never been difficult at any point in history.
Like, we got a dude right now that's telling you front and center that I put a computer in somebody's head, guys.
Like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
And everybody's going, yay!
katt williams
It's the greatest thing in the world, sir.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
But we understood this 15, 20, 25 years ago.
We understood while watching Tron or while watching Cyborg, we understood that there was just this small line medically that needed to be crossed in order for us to be able to do these things.
Like if you can hook a battery up to an octopus and make it go like this, you're halfway there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Why?
Because this is a machine that we have.
joe rogan
It's a biological machine.
katt williams
Right.
And once you understand it, you understand it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And you can fuck with that machine.
You can juice it up.
You can fucking get it stronger.
You can get it smarter.
You can do a lot of things with that machine.
katt williams
This is what the Anunnaki said.
This is how you know that these are not made up things from people's imagination because everything is too factual.
Like this necklace, right?
People online were like, yeah, is that Buddhist or that's this or that?
It's none of that.
Like, I just try to find the answers to things.
joe rogan
Is that a ship wheel?
katt williams
I designed this because this is that thing that you see that all the Anunnaki guys that have that look like a rich watch have.
And they always have it and you're always trying to see what that is.
What is that?
It is a time and it's a compass.
It's a timekeeping compass.
joe rogan
That's what that is?
katt williams
Yeah.
So that's what made the carrier...
Of great importance.
Because he was able to do things that were magical in nature, like go somewhere and get right back.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That thing on the wrist was a compass?
katt williams
A timekeeping compass.
joe rogan
A timekeeping compass.
katt williams
Yeah.
Right.
So, you had to believe in things that didn't exist at some point, like magnetics and distance and probabilities.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
That's how like...
If you were to read thousands of books about people that knew a bunch of shit, you'd start finding out that it's not really about knowing anything.
It's about where to go to get the information.
You know what I mean?
So when we look at all the ruins all around the world, we're not seeing ruins of colleges and universities and all of that.
We're seeing temples and synagogues and churches, but people don't understand that that's where that information was coming from for that period of time.
When we went to these temples, they weren't in there singing and reading from a book.
They were in there being taught things that they were able to go put into practice.
You see what I'm saying?
They were being taught Our agriculture.
You know what I mean?
Like they were being taught.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
They had some very bizarre knowledge too.
They had a detailed knowledge of cosmology.
They had a really detailed knowledge of our solar system.
katt williams
100% of the writings across the world, whoever said anything about space or the universe or what was out there, Why were all of them correct, Joe?
It's not even possible.
Like, how did they know that Mars was the red planet and why was it a worldwide fact?
Planetarily, Saturn had rings.
Like, based upon what information?
Because nobody worldwide is disagreeing.
Nobody's like, oh, I thought of this, or it came to me in a dream.
Nobody's saying that anywhere in anybody's civilization.
Everybody's civilization says this information came from the people that came from there.
There are no coincidences.
joe rogan
Well, they know that Mars used to have an atmosphere.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mars used to have an atmosphere.
It used to have water.
Something happened to its environment.
katt williams
If that's correct, then there's a guy right now saying he's getting ready to put people up there.
joe rogan
Yep.
Exactly.
Restart it all over again.
katt williams
50 years ago, there was no water in our whole universe, let them tell it.
Now there's been water almost everywhere.
There's water on the moon, for crying out loud.
joe rogan
Are you familiar with the Younger Dryas impact theory?
Do you know what that is?
katt williams
Say what it is.
joe rogan
Younger Dryas Impact Theory is a theory that Earth goes through a cycle of like comet storms every June and every November.
And most of the time nothing happens.
But every now and again we get hit.
We get hit big.
And they think we got hit big 11,800 plus years ago.
And that that had to restart civilization.
And that what you're seeing from Mesopotamia, all these people 6,000 years later, they think that is a rebuilding of civilization that was already just whispers and stories and tales.
And then they rebuilt it again thousands of years later.
But if you go back to 11,800 years ago, you're dealing with what we thought were hunter-gatherers, and now we know they weren't.
Now we know they built complex stone structures, and the real speculation is they think that the people who built the pyramids built them way earlier than the conventional dating is.
They think there's real evidence that shows they're 9,000, 11,000 years old.
Easy.
katt williams
No people built the pyramids.
joe rogan
No people?
katt williams
No.
joe rogan
Who built them?
katt williams
No people built the pyramids.
And if you look around the world, you see certain telltale things that let you know that advanced machinery was in usage.
Look, this whole thing where slaves are stronger people...
Is a fallacy.
We like to believe that slaves are stronger.
Slaves are weaker because they don't eat the right food and they live a terrible life.
Your slave population is not smarter or in better condition.
Unless you're enslaving the Jews.
joe rogan
They stopped thinking that quite a while ago.
They think it was actually skilled labor because of the way they were eating.
They found what their camps were, where their food was.
They ate very good food.
So they think they were actually skilled labor, but also probably forced skilled labor.
But that's probably not the people who built it.
That's probably the people that were working on it.
That's probably the people that worked in the village or in the city.
katt williams
How many companies have done renovations on the White House?
None of them have done enough renovation that they can claim it's their White House.
So, yes, thousands of years worth of people were there.
But that doesn't have anything to do with the building of it.
joe rogan
Who do you think built it?
katt williams
Well, understand, we know enough now to understand that this was a complex.
This was not...
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
We've been led to believe that this is how much they worshipped their dead bodies.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
But the evidence doesn't show any of that.
No, it doesn't.
Like when you see inside when they have those intricate carvings and paintings and stuff in gold and stuff, you have to remember this is in a windowless room, folks.
There's no...
Candles, soot, there's no...
It's clearly a power plant and built specifically for that location on this planet.
joe rogan
What do you think it was powered by?
katt williams
The hot water springs underneath it.
joe rogan
So it was powered by the hot water springs?
To what end?
How do you know all this, first of all?
Is this marijuana talk?
katt williams
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Where did you read this?
katt williams
If you follow information about humankind, you find out that in all parts of history, people were coming to this region for their information and their knowledge and their things that were forbidden.
These were the highest of human civilization.
joe rogan
Not even comparable to anyone else.
Nor since.
katt williams
Nor since.
joe rogan
The Great Pyramid McGee's is insane.
katt williams
Right.
Even Tesla says that this is where he came to get the information.
But if you follow that information pathway...
It leads you to this character called Thoth, right?
And the Emerald Tablets of Thoth are literally mind-changing and mind-blowing just because you understand when this was written and the terminology being used is far too accurate for now.
So I'm sure that...
joe rogan
Here it is.
Emerald Tablet.
Also known as the Smaragdine tablet or the Tabula Smaragdina.
Boy, I fucked that up.
katt williams
Hermes Trismegistus.
joe rogan
Yeah, a cryptic hermetic text.
It was highly regarded by Islamic and European alchemists as the foundation of their art.
Though attributed to the legendary Hellenistic figure Hermes Trismegistus, the text of the Emerald Tablet first appears in a number of early medieval Arabic sources, the oldest of which dates to the late eighth or early ninth century.
It was translated into Latin several times in the 12th and 13th centuries.
Numerous interpretations and commentaries followed.
So what does it say though?
The Egyptian god Thoth.
Okay, so beginning in the 2nd century BC onwards, Greek texts attributed to Hermes, a syncretic combination of Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth appeared in Greco-Roman Egypt.
Those texts known as the Hermetica are heterogeneous collection of works That in the modern day era are commonly subdivided into two groups, the technical hermetica compromising of astrological, medical, botanical, alchemical, and magical writings, and the religio-philosophical hermetica comprising of mystical philosophical writings.
Holy shit!
katt williams
Is this weed talk, Joseph?
joe rogan
No, this is so legit.
katt williams
So legit, my man.
joe rogan
So this dude was probably an alien.
katt williams
Dude, first of all, there are no probabilities.
That's the benefit once you hear it or read it, is the fact that it's given in first person and that's not possible.
The things that are being said are impossible.
Enough time has passed, though, that it's not like that.
joe rogan
I'm going to read that.
katt williams
He literally says, hey, there's a spaceship on Earth and this is where it is.
Because if all you care about is information, right, like that's what you start to see is when you get to everybody's civilization, Asian, Indian, African, when you get to the crux of their information, nobody's disagreeing with anybody.
joe rogan
Right.
If you figured out how the fuck they did it, If there was any logical explanation that people could have done it, I would be on board.
I'd be like, well, okay.
katt williams
But there aren't any people saying that.
joe rogan
It's possible if you had enough power and you had enough engineering and mathematics that you could figure out how to design and construct the pyramid.
But then, the logistical problem of getting the stones from hundreds of miles away, massive, massive, several ton, up to 80 ton stones, Joe.
That's crazy.
500 miles away, some of them.
katt williams
Even if you could do it, let me ask you this.
Would you build it on sand?
joe rogan
I don't think it was originally sand.
See, that's the thing.
katt williams
Right.
This was a fertile valley.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
The Nile Valley.
katt williams
They had electric and Wi-Fi and they had all of that.
joe rogan
They probably did.
And that's probably where the Younger Dryas Impact Theory comes in.
katt williams
The greatest trick is to make us believe that people back then were dumber and we're smarter.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
And that whole thing is a fallacy.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's definitely not real.
katt williams
But it's worth it for us to believe that.
joe rogan
I think we are the children of the survivors of some great catastrophe.
And I think that's why every single ancient biblical scholar...
What?
katt williams
Not everybody.
Some people.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
katt williams
Are that.
joe rogan
Some people are the survivors?
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, most human beings probably got wiped out in comet storms.
And I think we probably got...
There's been points in history that they know of where human beings got down to like 7,000 people.
katt williams
Who's counting them?
joe rogan
I think they use genetics and they backtrace and they try to find individuals that were capable of having X amount of children.
I wonder how they do the calculations.
It's a good question.
katt williams
The things in Hollywood and in writing that have attracted our attention worldwide were all based on some truth.
So all the stories of hobbits have been successful in all of their genres.
Why?
Because they existed.
Like, we now know that they were whole pygmy groups and that, you know, we understand that that's what the Seven Dwarves was.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like that Island of Flores, man, that they found.
They literally call it a hobbit.
It was like a three-foot tall person that was covered in hair, smaller head than us, used tools.
katt williams
As a preteen, I knew that Atlantis really existed just because of how it was spoken of offhandedly.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
In early writings.
katt williams
Well, not just mentioned, but mentioned offhandedly like you would a place that's just a landmark.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
We landed in New York before we went to Montreal.
katt williams
We were in Austin by Dallas.
joe rogan
Right.
Exactly.
katt williams
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen the guy that thinks that they found the spot in Africa?
What is that the ring called?
That Jimmy Corsetti, he's on this.
This dude is an expert in this shit.
He's an expert in ancient catastrophes and the remnants and the evidence that shows that these civilizations existed and something happened.
And he's focused on this one area in Africa.
That he believes is Atlantis and he says it has all the hallmark characteristics and there's all the evidence of massive water erosion surrounding the area that at one point in time it's very likely that this area got hit with a massive flood and it matches all the characteristics of Atlantis when you see it When you see the way the concentric circles of rings, like try explaining this.
You're going to see it.
And try explaining this through a natural phenomenon that doesn't exist anywhere around it.
Concentric circles that is near what used to be water, and there's heavy water erosion marks all around it that indicate massive amounts of quick flowing water in a very short period of time.
I forget what it's called, but I know exactly where it is.
unidentified
It's right here.
joe rogan
That's it.
Look at that thing.
Bro, are you fucking kidding me?
unidentified
The reshot structure.
joe rogan
That's it.
The reshot structure.
I mean, are you fucking kidding me?
unidentified
I think if you go 3D, you can see the...
joe rogan
Now imagine if that was this massive city of concentric circles and walls and a thriving population and then it gets hit with this water.
You can see the water erosion all over the place.
The whole thing looks like it's washed out.
See?
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
It looks like it was washed out, because it was!
katt williams
Right.
unidentified
And that's salt, I believe.
joe rogan
Yes, there's salt there.
That's the other thing.
katt williams
Between this and the Garden of Eden location, these are the two of the great landmarks in human history.
joe rogan
Where's the Garden of Eden?
katt williams
Well, when you read the stories, right, the thing that strikes you is that it's so specific.
Like it says things in talking about the Garden of Eden that, wait a minute, if I can't find what you're talking about, this isn't even real.
You see what I'm saying?
Like where the Garden of Eden was, there's, I think, four rivers that come from it.
And then it names two of them.
Like, I don't want to be specific because at least he's going to bring it up.
But it's like the Nile and the Euphrates, right?
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
So you know two of them.
And it's saying, you know, where the four meet, this is where it is.
And, yeah, my whole life I was like...
This is really weird because at one period of time we're thinking no flood happens.
There's so many things that have lined up from these great religious books where we can see that no, something happened here.
joe rogan
Something happened and these are stories of people telling stories that have been told to them for about a thousand years.
katt williams
But this is why, right.
This is why they were told.
And that's what you, that's the difference between those of us that...
I want to know the world's mysteries and conspiracy theorists.
There's nothing to a conspiracy theorist because you're not producing what you're using.
But these world mysteries, that's harder to do.
A lie is not something that people are going to repeat for generations on generations.
It's being repeated like that because people have reason to believe it to be true.
As you go through history, you see that those are the stories that we still talk about, but they're still valid.
There were writings that the African Dogon tribe From like the serious star system?
Like they're saying very specific things.
And for hundreds of years we're going, you guys are idiots.
You don't know what you're talking about, right?
Like somebody would have a fake star story.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
You see?
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
And now we get to the point where we can actually see what they were talking about.
joe rogan
What if we find out that we're aliens?
That we were just dropped off here?
The Adam and Eve story is the story of the place where they created us.
katt williams
I'm sure we're the only people in the universe that think like that.
joe rogan
You think so?
Why do you think that?
katt williams
No portion of humankind's story differs from that.
joe rogan
It's all creation story.
katt williams
Like, if you go...
That's why NASA and Space Force are not more forthcoming.
Because the further you get in space, the more obvious shit is.
Like, once you're up there and you're looking down, this shit doesn't look like...
There is no God.
It looks like you're in the middle of somebody's workshop and they just showed you every single way that every star can be made, every single way a planet can be made, every way that a black hole can be, a galaxy, a universe, and then showed you the best of the best.
joe rogan
It's the spot.
I mean, in our solar system, we're the best neighborhood that's ever existed.
They all suck.
Every other planet sucks.
katt williams
We're rudimentary enough that we still require environmental help.
joe rogan
Right.
Until you get that chip.
Once you get that chip...
katt williams
It would be like saying people that didn't learn how to ride horses, they were slow.
They couldn't run fast enough, so they got horses.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
No, it didn't have anything to do with that.
Better is better.
joe rogan
That's really what it's going to be.
Better is better.
We're all going to integrate.
katt williams
We would have told you 30 years ago that we wouldn't need a Space Force unless we went up there and found something.
joe rogan
I think the Space Force, the idea is that they're worried about someone else being in space first with weapons flying around.
katt williams
You mean us?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, if we can do it, they can do it.
That's the thing.
katt williams
Who is they?
joe rogan
Whoever it is.
katt williams
No, there's only human kind and alien.
joe rogan
Oh, I agree.
The problem is, this is what we really need.
We really need this neural link to lock us all together so everybody can read everybody's mind.
That's what's going to happen, and then there's going to be no more leaders.
There's going to be no more governments.
katt williams
You're being very controversial right now.
Okay, so look.
joe rogan
Better is better.
katt williams
That exists already.
So just understand that the worldwide government is way smarter than we give them credit for because they have us believing they don't do nothing.
But the truth is, There's no such thing as the government is in bed with the internet.
No.
The internet is a government installation that they allowed the world to use for free.
So that they could have the information.
Willingly.
Because you're on it.
joe rogan
That's what it became.
Exactly.
katt williams
That's what it was to become.
joe rogan
You think so?
katt williams
Yes.
joe rogan
I think the progression of technology oftentimes leads itself to like even cell phones.
At first it was Michael Douglas walking on the beach in Wall Street looking amazing with that brick.
Carrying that big brick like, look at that guy.
He's got a phone with no cord.
He's out on the beach.
This is insane.
To everybody having a phone.
katt williams
But not to everybody, because those in the ham radio community and people with the CBs, they didn't feel like that was cutting edge, because it really wasn't.
joe rogan
It's still cutting edge to be able to walk around with a device.
It's a leap in technology.
katt williams
Here's the thing.
When you look at all of our inventions, that's when you know that these space encounters were real.
Because we only have advancement in a couple of industries in the world.
And everything else is nothing.
So, like the microwave that they had...
30 years ago, it looks the same as the same microwave now.
Why?
Because it was done as a military thing.
It was supposed to be a weapon.
And then they found out, you know, it heats up food and they put a door on it.
And so it hasn't changed at all because invention is very difficult.
And...
joe rogan
Do you subscribe to the idea that we get back-engineered?
katt williams
Absolutely.
That's why those leaps, we don't see those leaps in anything else, is my point.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's so much speculation about the creation of a bunch of different things that came out of Roswell.
Fiber optics.
katt williams
Right, but remember 20 years ago...
Fifteen years ago, this is crazy talk, but it's not like it's at the point at this point like Area 51 would have to be doing something.
joe rogan
They were definitely doing something.
katt williams
Right.
And nobody's telling a differing story as to what it is.
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
Like, people have great imaginations all through history.
They could make up something.
The only damning information is if you read 3,000 accounts of these entities and realize, wait a minute, Why is everybody describing the same couple of beings?
There's no outliers.
joe rogan
There's like three different things they describe.
They said they documented 8 to 12. We're not talking about English-speaking people.
katt williams
We're talking about worldwide.
That's what is striking.
joe rogan
Indigenous people in Australia drew them.
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
Nobody's saying anything outlandish.
And that's what you get to when you go religiously or...
joe rogan
Well, the alien thing is a bit of a religion to a lot of folks.
They don't want to believe anything.
katt williams
It's a necessary component.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Whatever religion you're a part of, at some point it says...
joe rogan
You were contacted.
katt williams
...that there was a fight in heaven and, you know, this happened and that happened.
joe rogan
Yep.
Every single one of them.
katt williams
Everyone without...
Nobody's telling a different story.
Everybody's telling...
The same stories.
Like, that's how you know that vagina and gold are universal things, because in everybody's story, none of these otherworldly entities had any interest in anything other than women and And gold.
Right.
Pussy or gold.
And you understand that now when you start learning about what's in space.
Because you can see that any element or any commodity that we sell here is abundant in space, like trash.
Yeah.
You know, they found one meteor that was worth all the money.
joe rogan
On Earth?
katt williams
Yeah.
770 billion.
joe rogan
No.
katt williams
Trillion.
It was another number.
Some crazy number.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
They know that there's spots in space that have abundant minerals that are very valuable.
And the thing about the Sumerian story, the Sumerian tech story, the reality story may make everyone a billionaire on this earth.
Everyone would be a billionaire!
Every person would earn several billion dollars.
katt williams
So it sounds jokey, right?
But understand, somebody got this contract.
They broke this up into several worldwide contracts.
joe rogan
10,000 quadrillion.
katt williams
It's just there.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
If you got that much gold, is gold valuable anymore?
Because one of the things about gold is that there's not that much of it.
Have you ever seen the number of gold on Earth?
katt williams
That's not necessary in capitalism.
They showed us that with diamonds.
joe rogan
That's true.
katt williams
It is about the perception of things.
And if I buy up all of something, it is rare now.
Immediately.
Just because I have control of all of it.
And that is worth killing Tesla over.
And that's why...
The people are still in business in Hollywood because everything's a commodity.
joe rogan
Did you ever read, you ever heard of Zechariah Sitchin?
Zechariah Sitchin was a biblical scholar who, he deciphered the Sumerian texts and he's like an expert in language.
And when he deciphered, he might not have been a biblical scholar, might have just been a language expert.
But either way, he deciphered these texts and He wrote these books about the real meaning behind everything they were saying and he said that the reason why we are so fascinated with gold is that the Anunnaki literally would have us mine gold for them because they needed it to protect their atmosphere.
So what they would do is take gold, which is very rare in what it does.
What gold can do is you can take a little piece of gold, like this big, and coat this entire table.
It's real weird.
Right.
And you could turn into a fine dust, and they suspended this fine dust in their atmosphere to protect them from a degrading atmosphere because they were getting global warming or whatever.
katt williams
Everybody that was...
joe rogan
He wrote about this in the 70s.
katt williams
It doesn't matter because everybody in Egypt knew it.
Like, this is where the alchemy...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's where it all originated.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
We don't even know what they knew.
katt williams
None of those people are saying, hey, I came up with this shit.
They're saying...
joe rogan
Right, somebody gave it to us.
katt williams
Somebody who came from this place here came and told us that this is how this goes and this is what this is worth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Because I'm saying...
The people that were being abused in the mines going to get the diamonds, it wasn't like that for them.
It was just them getting these rocks.
This crazy guy is going to pay a day's wages for us to gather rocks.
Let's gather them.
You know, this is...
But when you follow back, it's all about the information.
And at the top of it, nobody's trying to claim it.
Like, nobody's saying...
joe rogan
Right, I invented this.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is wild.
Imagine, that's why we're getting most of our shit.
Back-engineered stuff they leave for us.
We have to figure it out, sort through it.
The people that have alien technology, the people that do have an alien craft that they work on, what a weird reality you must live in.
The whole rest of the world's got guessing.
And you got this thing in front of you like, oh, this is real, we have one.
I can show it to you.
katt williams
That's how everybody in Space Force will have to feel, right?
joe rogan
Right, they must.
How many of you think see shit?
katt williams
I'm saying, how do you think Elon Musk really feels?
joe rogan
I don't think he's going to tell you.
katt williams
No, I'm saying in his head, can he still have a superhero?
Or is he one of them?
You know he's one of them.
joe rogan
If you're the richest dude in the world and you're also a super genius, how the fuck do you stop yourself from thinking you're a superhero?
That's the big question.
katt williams
No, it's not like that.
joe rogan
No?
katt williams
No.
It doesn't have superhero side effects to it.
joe rogan
I mean, you would probably think...
katt williams
Like, the more you know, the more you know how little you know.
joe rogan
That's true, too.
katt williams
There's not a...
You know what I mean?
And nobody has ownership of information.
That's why reading books moves civilization.
Because when I said I read 3,000 books, people were like, yeah, right.
But, you know...
Everything in life is about the environment it was grown in, the petri dish, right?
So if I told you that from the time I was 8 to the time I was 12, I never celebrated any birthdays.
I never went to a birthday party.
I never had a Thanksgiving or Christmas.
I never trick-or-treated.
I wasn't allowed to watch movies.
And I wasn't allowed to watch TV. All I could do was read.
If I told you that, then you would understand that for eight hours a day, I got eight hours, and I can read, and I love to read.
And so I'm reading books that are 250, 200 pages, and it takes me about an hour to read one.
It takes you an hour to read 150 pages?
I'm reading eight a day.
Yeah, like all I'm doing is reading.
So I'm checking out 20 books.
The limit at the library is 20 books at one time.
So I'm going Monday, Wednesday, and Friday just because this is my thing.
unidentified
So you're getting 60 books a week?
katt williams
Minimum.
Really?
Yeah, because I'm reading more than that because I still have religious books that I have to read.
So understand this is pre-internet first.
So understand that in reading one thing that I'm reading, this one thing that I'm reading is also requiring me to have this Appendix book that is the source book that it's telling me it's getting these things from.
And so I've got four books open at a time just for this one book.
But yeah, so first, I guess between 8 and 12, I'm only...
I can read classics and nonfiction, so I'm saying no novels or anything like that.
I'm just...
Reading the, like, Time Life has, like, 1,800 of these individual books on all subjects of the world.
joe rogan
So you just spent most of your time reading?
katt williams
Not most.
All of it.
joe rogan
All of your time reading.
And then when did it pop up?
katt williams
That was my thing.
because, like, I was able to be in each of these stories.
You follow what I'm saying?
I was getting so much information.
Half of those I probably had to write a one-page report on after.
Yeah, that was my whole thing.
The numbers aren't even really accurate because I read more than that because sometimes I would read something and I wouldn't get it.
There was this classic book called Little Women that I probably read it four times because I just didn't understand it and I knew it was a classic but...
joe rogan
I never read it.
What's it about?
Have you read it, Jamie?
katt williams
Some little women.
unidentified
I was a kid.
I just watched an episode of Curb where I was there talking about it.
joe rogan
What is this story about?
katt williams
Well, here's the thing.
joe rogan
Sisters, I don't know.
katt williams
Right, right.
Like, four sisters think that.
Okay?
But they...
They have money and a...
An incredible circumstance, but the thing was, I didn't have any sisters, so I didn't have anything to pull from, and I didn't have women in my life like that.
So, yeah, a lot of things I would have to read multiple times for me to get...
joe rogan
Right, to try to think how they thought.
katt williams
Right, well, yeah, like, even like...
the three musketeers like I probably read it three times because I you know it was so I read it like the first time to read it but then the next time I had to read it again because these characters were really distinct characters right and I couldn't figure out wait a minute did this happen really in history or Or was somebody just this good at telling this story, you know?
But it's things like that that leads you to the Knights Templar story, which leads you to, you know, seeing how things through history have remained, you know what I mean?
Like...
All of that you get from the books.
joe rogan
Well, history to me has always been the most fascinating thing because you can't quite imagine it.
You're trying to imagine it.
You're piecing it together.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen to these stories and you just sit back and go, what the fuck was that like?
katt williams
Right.
Which is what we create every day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
katt williams
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
We're creating the future's version of what the fuck was that like.
This place right here freaks me out the most.
Because this area, specifically this area of Texas, the Hill Country, was just all Native Americans forever.
There's thousands of arrowheads, man.
katt williams
A friend found this on his ranch.
None of those people, when we say those people, none of them picked a bad place ever.
joe rogan
No.
katt williams
That's when you understand that there's a grid.
Because nobody's holy people.
I picked bad spots.
Everybody understood certain things about the area long before they had x-ray machines.
If you just went by that in the whole world, you would start to understand.
The true power of the Vatican and the fact that certain things are based on real shit, like the Ark of the Covenant ain't some spooky little story.
joe rogan
What do you think it is?
Think it's like a nuclear generator or something like that?
What do you think it is?
katt williams
Whatever the nucleus is, that would nuclearly power something that would have initially been in the pyramids would also have been in the Ark of the Covenant, which would be the same thing.
Something that you can't fuck with, and it's radioactive, and it's very powerful, but it still has to be...
That's what I'm saying.
Nobody's telling any crazy stories, my man.
Not globally.
joe rogan
No.
katt williams
No.
Everything was about something.
joe rogan
Well, it gets less crazy every year.
It gets less crazy every year.
20 years ago, talking about any of this stuff was straight up nonsense.
katt williams
Yes.
joe rogan
But now people are like, hold on.
That's probably what disclosure actually looks like.
It looks like a slow trickle integration into the zeitgeist to the point where it's just normal.
katt williams
Because a lot of times they're right.
A lot of times it turns out that they were right that, no, we couldn't have told people this because, yeah, they would have went and this would have happened and that would have happened.
And you can start to see that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's why, when you think about what people have always believed, that's why angels and devils freak me out.
Because no one wants to believe That there's a Satan.
That there's a devil.
katt williams
You believe in astronauts though, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
But people have always said there is.
katt williams
You mean a bad and a good?
joe rogan
Yeah, not just a bad and a good, but an actual evil malevolent force.
katt williams
No, just start with bad and good.
Okay, so if we started bad and good, then we understand what must be at the extremes of that.
Nobody's telling a different story.
joe rogan
And then there's the concept of actual entities.
katt williams
Yes.
joe rogan
Actual demonic entities that do exist.
katt williams
Well, I'm saying your DNA is either fused or it's not.
If it is, it requires a fuser.
That's all.
joe rogan
A fuser.
Right.
What do you mean by that?
katt williams
I'm saying...
If they tell you that certain parts of your DNA are fused, that requires a fuser.
Did I say that right?
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
I see what you're saying.
The structure to us in everything, all of it, does seem remarkable.
katt williams
In a no mistakes type of way.
joe rogan
Yeah, in a synchronistic sort of a way.
katt williams
Which flies in the face of the accidental, big bang, nothing from nothing way of thinking.
And it always has been.
joe rogan
Well, that's what I think, like, in the beginning there was light when they talk about that.
If you were going to describe the beginning of the universe, even if you're describing the Big Bang, which there's a lot of speculation that that wasn't necessarily the beginning, that there might be a continuous cycle of these events happening over and over again.
But if you were talking about a creation story, you would say in the beginning there was light.
There was.
It was a fucking enormous amount of light.
It created the entire universe.
katt williams
Literally.
joe rogan
Literally.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
I think...
katt williams
Which is all it says.
And here's, like, whatever they say that hell or Hades is in any of these religions worldwide, it is the perfect description for what a black hole is in real life.
joe rogan
It is.
You fall through forever.
katt williams
A bottomless pit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Where time doesn't exist.
katt williams
Where time does not exist, where you don't die, but you don't exit, where the information...
joe rogan
And it eats stars.
katt williams
Right.
But it eats stars and galaxies, all that, right?
But...
But we can have multiple of them, and everything will still be okay.
joe rogan
They're the center of every galaxy.
katt williams
That's the flex.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Yeah, we're fine with them.
joe rogan
It's like if you live in Africa, you've got to deal with lions.
katt williams
What's this thing?
Oh, it kills everything.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
Everything what?
Everything it touches?
joe rogan
Everything, everything.
It's going to get us eventually, but not now.
katt williams
You mean you have two of them?
joe rogan
They find them floating around.
katt williams
They find them.
joe rogan
They find them floating around.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, they noticed them.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
They noticed that they're out there floating around.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
They found one that's so fucking big.
We did this thing when we played a video of how small the Earth is in comparison to the sun.
How small the sun is in comparison to the giant stars.
And how small giant stars are into the most massive, supermassive black hole that they know currently.
It's bananas.
katt williams
Our perfect habitat is so perfect that anyone universally would sense would say, whew, location, location, location.
You know?
joe rogan
The greatest real estate agent ever.
katt williams
If the moon or the sun were further back, we'd be fucked.
Or closer.
Like, the whole thing is, you know, someone later saying, do you think Beverly Hills was, do you think this was an area they built on purpose?
unidentified
Yeah.
katt williams
It was.
Oh, don't let me.
joe rogan
Just imagine if the moon was slightly smaller.
Just imagine.
Imagine if the earth was slightly further away from the sun.
katt williams
They know that it's to the point where some of it might have been artificially done and they're aware of that.
They're aware of the truth.
joe rogan
So the artificial created solar system?
Oh, the moon.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
I've heard that theory.
That's a wild theory.
katt williams
Well, some of it's not theory.
Like, I was...
I was...
On that subject as a teenager, but as a grown person is when the thing happened where they hit it with the missile and it rang like a bell.
Certain things are...
joe rogan
What was the explanation for that?
Because it did have some sort of a crazy...
katt williams
The question is, who will offer an explanation?
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
Because it wasn't like...
They didn't just do it once.
All accounts say it rang like a bell for hours and hours and hours.
joe rogan
Imagine if that's a feature for a stable planet that they put there.
katt williams
Well, that's how Xbox works, you know, or PlayStation.
I'm an Xbox guy, but I'm saying, you know, you have your gaming system, and it just requires that, and your Wi-Fi nearby, and bam, you know, make things happen.
And so many of our things globally...
We come by understanding that and the magnetics and dynamics and things that really work.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that think that whatever we're seeing isn't just from another planet but from another dimension.
That they're dimensional travelers.
That they have access to places that we don't have access to.
Because we're too primitive.
We can't wrap our head around it as a civilization.
We haven't reached the ability to transcend, but that they can and that they're here all the time.
katt williams
Well, the way we look at it, you know, we're the greatest spot in the universe, but the travelers don't lead us to believe that.
joe rogan
Well, there's always competition.
There's always going to be a greater civilization than the one previous.
There's always going to be more.
There's always going to be more.
If people are going to innovate to the point where they're going to make spacecrafts, that means these people are competing with each other.
These things, whatever they are, they must be in some sort of competition.
There must be something that motivates them.
katt williams
Right, but at that level, competition is healthy and there are no unhealthy components.
Hopefully.
Well, no, not hopefully, definitely.
Once we're all building personal space contraptions for ourselves, we're going to push one another.
It's not just...
We're going to all want the best one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
And we're going to insist that that be the case, just like we do with cars.
joe rogan
When I said hopefully, what I mean is that, like, hopefully they will be, like, healthy, friendly competition.
That's what motivates them.
What's not hopeful is that they could be robotic, emotionless things that have transcended biological needs and that they just have a function.
That function is seeding intelligent life in the universe and establishing, just like you would be a farmer and you would go out and leave hay for the animals.
katt williams
Needs are primitive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They are primitive, but we're always moving into some more and more complex direction.
Technologically, it seems like that's never going to stop.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
And the only thing that makes sense to me is that we're doing something because that's like what we're literally designed to do.
We have all these things that sort of motivate people and greed and lust and curiosity, but what we're doing is we're always making better things.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Constantly making better things, which would lead ultimately to the creation of a higher life form, some more intelligent, emotionless being.
And that's the scary thought, is that all this life out there is life that was created by biological creatures who had these desires and needs that ultimately led to them making a better version of them.
And then that is like the butterfly that comes out of the cocoon.
katt williams
As soon as we put people in space, we became aliens that day, right?
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah.
katt williams
A lot of things are perspective.
joe rogan
That's true.
I mean, you could say you're a camper, but you really only go in a tent in your yard.
You're still kind of camping.
katt williams
I'm saying our guy has put a date on the Mars colonization, though, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's also put a date on the Roadster when that Tesla Roadster's coming out.
That motherfucker's never going to see the light of day.
When is that car coming out?
katt williams
No, because...
joe rogan
That car is supposed to be out for years.
unidentified
Yeah, it's supposed to be out two or three years ago, I think.
katt williams
That's part of being a billionaire.
unidentified
Sure.
katt williams
It's not worth putting out something that's not right.
It doesn't matter how bad it's wanted.
joe rogan
Well, he actually explained that.
He said manufacturing is insanely difficult.
The way he explained it, you know, you don't consider it because people just manufacture things.
They think it's normal.
But he was like, the process of manufacturing, especially like a car, an electric car, insanely difficult.
katt williams
He had a harder time doing that Cybertruck than he did space stuff.
joe rogan
Cybertruck's hard.
Well, it's all folded steel.
It's this fucking massive 7,000 plus pound folded steel truck that goes zero to 60 in three seconds.
And it looks like it's from the future.
katt williams
It's the hottest thing on Mars.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Yeah, that's what it is.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
It looks like the most futuristic car ever.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, but...
katt williams
As kids, that's what we drew.
joe rogan
I don't know when we're going to Mars, and I don't know who the fuck's gonna do that.
That's a six-month journey, and you're just hoping.
katt williams
So what?
Several billionaires were talked into getting into a capsule with limited air.
unidentified
To go a long way down.
joe rogan
That's a dark way to die.
Just knowing that you chose to do it.
katt williams
Just know, even if you're a racist hearing this, all death is dark.
joe rogan
What I mean is the last moments must be horrific.
katt williams
No more horrific than anyone else's.
joe rogan
I know, but there's something about the choice of being, you know, thousands of feet under the water.
katt williams
No, it's being a billionaire.
unidentified
Your soul dies long before you eat it.
I could have done anything.
katt williams
This is what I chose.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
katt williams
That death.
joe rogan
That guy could be fishing in Maui right now.
With a nice cold beer.
Hanging out with his friends.
Listening to some music.
Instead he hears...
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
He hears that carbon fiber starting to crack.
God damn!
katt williams
It's already done at that point.
None of that's happening.
joe rogan
They knew those people were dead a long time ago.
Which is interesting because I didn't know how sophisticated the underwater listening devices are.
But they have these super sophisticated underwater listening devices everywhere to make sure that Russia's not sneaking up on us.
unidentified
Because Russia will sneak up on a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Russia's snuck up on people before.
katt williams
None of that is for us.
Russia.
joe rogan
You think it's for aliens?
katt williams
None of that is for Russia.
joe rogan
You think it's for aliens?
That would be the wildest shit of all time.
They have underwater listening devices because they knew that aliens were under there.
katt williams
Okay.
Let's see if this is weed talk or not.
joe rogan
Let's go.
katt williams
So, which one do we know more about?
Do we know more about space or do we know more about the oceans?
joe rogan
We know more about space.
Quite a bit more.
katt williams
Okay, so, yeah.
And part of that is because...
unidentified
The ocean's very difficult to penetrate.
katt williams
At some point, it's government...
joe rogan
They're hiding things from us.
I would hide things from people.
I would definitely make it illegal for you to have a submarine.
You could have a yacht.
Don't get crazy.
You can't go underwater.
I gotta know where the fuck you are.
If I need to collect taxes...
If you're floating around, I can pull up.
katt williams
It was a conspiracy theory at one point that...
unidentified
You know the government got bases inside the mountains.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, until they had to expand the boundary behind Area 51 and make Area 51 larger, they never even admitted it existed.
It wasn't until the Obama administration that they actually came out and said, Area 51 is a real thing.
We need more land.
Do you ever see the video of Bob Lazar, the guy who used to work there?
Have you ever seen that guy?
That's a wild one.
katt williams
I was following old Bob Lazar.
joe rogan
What do you think about that?
Do you think he's telling the truth?
katt williams
Here's the thing, Joe.
unidentified
Just...
katt williams
Just an opinion, but...
What I find fascinating...
Is the lack of imagination in any of these stories where imagination could apply.
Like...
joe rogan
Like, if someone was bullshitting, you'd see evidence of it.
Right?
Because that's the thing.
If people bullshit, they kind of bullshit about everything.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Because they think they're smart enough to trick you.
No one's smart enough to come up with one story only their whole life.
Their whole life, they're straight, down the middle, square, tell the truth all the time.
But one time, they decide to have a whopper of a lie and just fabricate this thing and structure it.
katt williams
No, you're seeing somebody tell you a story...
That is the only explanation for certain things that are happening.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Especially he tells you a story and then you have independent people who also used to work for the government now becoming whistleblowers and saying there's a crashed retrieval program.
Crashed UFO retrieval program.
katt williams
It goes back to what I'm saying, Joe.
This is how you say this without getting cancelled.
Look.
You do think they're doing something, don't you?
joe rogan
They're doing something?
katt williams
They wouldn't tell us everything they're doing.
Because we want to believe nobody's doing nothing.
No, we're doing stuff.
joe rogan
They're doing something.
They're just not telling us.
katt williams
That's part of it though, right?
joe rogan
You know what the people involved in the retrieval call the vehicles?
They call them donations.
katt williams
Right.
Well, because...
joe rogan
That's what they think they are.
They think that the limited times of these crafts have shown themselves.
katt williams
You didn't...
You as the driver or the occupant didn't mean for that to be your destination.
And you don't take anything.
You only give.
Therefore, that's why it's known as a donation.
Because it's like...
It's what you would say if one of those meteors that we were talking about, if one just the size of a refrigerator landed in your backyard.
unidentified
Like...
katt williams
A billion dollars can land in your backyard.
Easy peasy.
joe rogan
Or, obliterate an entire city and send everybody back to the Stone Age.
That's the wildest one.
katt williams
Right, but it's not that wild if you look at the moon.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
The moon shows you the evidence.
unidentified
If we could just look at it, it's just filled with holes.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Big fucking craters all over that you could see with the naked eye.
katt williams
Well, I'm saying most of the people that are in America and drive in urban settings know what potholes are.
And so, you know, it's the same thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is a weird time where people are just starting to pay attention to so many of these subjects.
And so many of these things, like, are we alone?
Have there been advanced civilizations before?
How did we become us?
katt williams
It's been a conversation at all points in time.
joe rogan
But more people are having it now without fear of being labeled an idiot.
katt williams
Well, it's because information is now a free commodity, whereas in different points in history, it wasn't like that.
joe rogan
Right.
It was protected.
katt williams
You didn't make enough money to get access to this information.
No matter where you're looking, information is the driving force of almost everything.
War and conflict.
It was about the place that you conquered.
Not only did you conquer them, but you got a chance to know what they knew.
And that, you found, was more important than anything else.
joe rogan
Well, think about the people that lived just before they translated the Bible from Latin.
How many people couldn't read it?
katt williams
Well, that was part of the experience that you were getting from church was the fact that it was being read to you.
Right.
You see what I'm saying?
Not what we have currently where you have the book and they have the book, but, you know, this person is literally reciting the Word of God to you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he becomes the holder of all that information and the only one.
katt williams
All holders of all information are that.
joe rogan
Yep.
It's like a human pattern that people follow, even if they just run an internet company.
Even if they run a social media company, they follow that same pattern.
katt williams
Well, because everything in the universe, everything on this planet, everything that we could look at in the wildlife or in the plant life, everything is a formula.
Everything is that way.
And that's one of the, you know, the science and math go together with the occult and alchemy.
And all of these things are based on things like even the Smurfs story, right?
joe rogan
The Smurfs are based on something? - Thank you.
katt williams
Well, religious people say, oh, you can't watch the Smurfs because it's bad because they have witchcraft and stuff in there.
But the whole thing is, it's based on this, the homunculus, the idea that you can create a human life form without a mother or a father.
So...
Really?
joe rogan
That's what the Smurfs are based on?
katt williams
So what two Smurfs do you think got together and had Smurfette?
She was the only female of the Smurfs.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
katt williams
Well, it's not a question in the Smurfs.
They tell you that Gargamel made Smurfette.
But, you know, in...
Somebody's history, I don't want to say what race of people or group of people it is, but in somebody's history, you know, there was this homunculus thing.
joe rogan
Like a genetically engineered human?
katt williams
Life form.
Life form.
joe rogan
Creature.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Whoa.
katt williams
And so, you know, it's spoken of in history very sparingly.
But, you know, a lot of things in the world are about perception, you know?
So we don't believe that there's...
Clones, we don't believe that because we don't feel like we have the technology.
But the truth is, if you go body part to body part, you'll go, what if I lost two legs?
Well, we can give you two legs.
Well, what about two arms?
I can give you two arms.
Okay, well, what about the heart?
Yeah, no problem.
What about the, like, we're all ready?
joe rogan
Yeah.
All you'd have to do is make a clone brain-dead.
Figure out how to engineer a brain-dead clone that'll grow organs for you.
And then they'll make cloning legal.
Because then you'll never have to worry.
Hey, cat, you need a new heart?
Guess what?
katt williams
Sir, this is the same pathway that everybody is on in all of these departments.
Like, this is what you...
People spend their life trying to find the cure for cancer, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
And working as hard as they can every single day, you know what I mean, unsuccessfully.
Those are the type of people that help make the world go round, you know?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
katt williams
Yeah, because it's all about information.
And we'll be so close most of the time.
But that's how you can see when we've had influence from something else.
joe rogan
*sad music* Well, I think it's very possible that we have.
It's just so frustrating when you want to know.
You know, it's one of those things where Life would change forever if you had undeniable contact with something.
It would just change forever.
Your perception of light, just to drive through the in-and-out drive-thru would be different.
Everything would be different.
Taking a shit would be different.
There's aliens out there.
katt williams
You can say that about smelling salts or mushrooms.
You can say that about...
Lots of things.
joe rogan
Yeah, but about that specifically, if we knew that that was real.
Because I think it's probably true, but I still hold open the possibility that it's all bullshit.
katt williams
Here's the whole thing.
No one who has ever seen more space or the universe than you and I has ever seen anything that was bullshit.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
katt williams
In the universe.
joe rogan
What I mean is like fake UFO footage.
There's a lot of fake footage.
I would want to see, if you could see something yourself, and I have good friends that have.
I have good friends that have had experiences that they say, there is no fucking way that that is us.
That this is something else.
katt williams
Right.
Just understand that part of the job in any of these circumstances is to kick up kerfuffle.
Right.
That's part of it.
Right.
If you live in Florida, you see how many times things go off into space, and you know that there's a pattern between that and government airplanes.
Our stories of cooperation have been nothing but cooperative, as they could only be.
We don't hold any leverage.
joe rogan
I think some of the shit that we're seeing is our stuff.
katt williams
Right.
I'm saying, but nobody will have a way of...
Like, as advanced as we are, we still gotta let that balloon fly over, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
What the fuck is that?
joe rogan
That's the most obvious shit ever.
That's your neighbor peeking over the fence.
katt williams
No, it is not.
It is your neighbor's drone.
joe rogan
Yeah, your neighbor's drone.
katt williams
In your yard.
joe rogan
Over your house.
Yeah.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
katt williams
Right.
Filled with a pinata of the next COVID. Right.
joe rogan
I mean, what are they doing?
katt williams
Flying robots.
It's not like that.
It's not like that.
In the world of flying things, sometimes things go off course.
You see what I'm saying?
Especially spy stuff.
joe rogan
Do you think that's all it was?
It went off course?
That it just magically happened to go near all the military bases?
katt williams
Don't say magically.
Say wind.
joe rogan
The wind got it?
katt williams
Well, I'm saying...
joe rogan
Bro, they just flew those things over and they hoped that Biden didn't notice.
They said they flew over during Trump's administration, too, but they didn't tell him.
Because they didn't want him to shoot him down.
katt williams
Neither of those stories is true.
That information was out there.
joe rogan
Another one, yeah.
They said this was a hobbyist, though, but that's what they said.
katt williams
Yeah, this doesn't count.
This doesn't count.
And the way that you know immediately is it says over Utah.
That would be where, you know.
joe rogan
That's like White Sands, right?
No, that's New Mexico, isn't it?
Yeah.
There's got to be military bases in Utah, though, right?
katt williams
Well, I'm saying in the...
Actually, the image I showed was...
In the map-wise...
unidentified
The first one, the Chinese surveillance balloon is what this says.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what this one is?
This is the one from February 2023. That's the one they shot down.
Look at that.
So it's just a balloon with solar power and some kind of camera.
How weird.
katt williams
Not weird.
Not weird.
joe rogan
Well, not weird if you just think about human patterns.
We gotta see what the enemy's up to.
Just fly over.
Take some pictures.
See what the fuck is going on with these people.
katt williams
I'm saying we can say whatever we want, but we're civilized and maybe they're not civilized.
So if you weren't civilized, then maybe part of your job is airborne weaponry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
So you gotta test it out.
You gotta see what it can do.
Yeah.
And yeah, they're gonna go off course.
Okay.
joe rogan
Well that's not airborne weaponry, but we have a lot of it.
katt williams
Information is.
joe rogan
That's true.
Information is weaponry.
katt williams
Information is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Just knowing what the conversations are over this wide swath of People is worth money.
Because at the end of all these information driven society places is analytics and that's what this is.
Yeah, I probably said too much.
joe rogan
No, it's alright.
We'll be fine.
I just wonder where it's all headed, because it seems like we're building towards an event.
I think about it all the time.
It seems like it's not...
katt williams
It's time to get a bunker.
joe rogan
It seems like it might be a good time to get a bunker, or at least a supply of water.
katt williams
Well, here's the thing.
If you follow what becomes accessible, that's how you can generally see where things are going, you know?
And so...
That's the true magicalness of Elon Musk, you know?
Just take that guy out of the story and just tell that story and...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he's moving us into so many different directions all at the same time.
The electric car thing, the internet satellite thing, and now this Neuralink thing.
The Neuralink thing is the craziest one.
katt williams
Because all of these things are connected in these higher upper echelon conversations.
I'm saying you see the same conversation with Tesla or DaVinci or like...
Information is what is limited.
And whole industries can be built upon your ability to know how certain things are going to hit certain people.
And this was before we called things promotion and marketing.
You know what I mean?
Hollywood is not really there to entertain you.
Like, that's great that that happens.
But propaganda is something that is important to all civilizations.
joe rogan
Well, propaganda in Hollywood movies is built into the ingredients list.
It's like if you want flour, you need wheat.
You're going to have to get the wheat.
And if you want to be able to make movies about certain subjects, you have to be willing to work with some people.
You know, it would be nice if you made it so that this is what we're trying to accomplish.
And this is showing the negative side of this other society.
And this is our hero.
Okay.
And those movies are successful, and so they continue this relationship, and you become a bit of a propaganda arm for the government.
And in turn, they don't fuck with you.
katt williams
Right.
But that's what makes information so powerful, is, you know, you don't care how people...
I feel about the ritual.
It's about does following the ritual work.
And so you can fool yourself into thinking there isn't one, but the evidence will be clear.
So like when I was like, oh, these guys are wearing dresses.
Everybody's like, oh, he keeps talking about people wearing dresses.
No, it's not like that.
Look at it from a different way.
Look at it.
Show me one person that ever wore a dress in Hollywood unsuccessfully.
That's how you understand what a ritual is.
So 20 years ago I knew that transgenders was gonna be a thing.
It wasn't because I was a prophet.
It's just I had gotten so much information That I understood that things are secular, so I understood that the earliest I had seen that word transgender was Baphomet, the transgender.
And so I knew that in the ritual of Baphomet, the transgender, to show allegiance to him, you had to kiss his ass ring.
joe rogan
Really?
katt williams
And it said both of those things.
So I knew that both of those things would become popular in the future.
And that somehow...
Calling people the goat would be normalized over the sheep being always the most popular reference.
joe rogan
God damn, we got some good weed, Kat.
Jesus Christ.
katt williams
This must be the weed talk.
unidentified
I'm trying to figure out how to jump in on that.
katt williams
Right.
Which is my only goal.
joe rogan
I always wonder whether or not all the stories in the Bible, it's just where we are experiencing it.
Like the Mark of the Beast thing that we were talking about earlier.
If that is not...
If you had to tell a story for so many years Yeah.
Before anybody ever even figured out how to write it down.
And you're telling a story about a civilization that allowed people to put brain implants in them.
And then all of a sudden the brain implants were hijacked by machines and people became just meat zombies controlled by corporations.
That would be the mark of the beast.
That would be a demonic thing.
If a demon tricked human beings into wearing a hat that turned you into a zombie, that demon would be like a famous character in books and folklore.
But that demon exists and it's just technology.
It just shows itself through this desire for the newest, latest innovations that are going to constantly fuel it becoming more and more powerful.
And to one day it tricks you into letting it into its head.
Like a vampire.
Like the vampire stories?
You had to let them in, remember?
That was the thing.
You had to invite them in.
And if you invited them in, you're fucked.
But if you didn't invite them in, for some reason they weren't allowed to kill you.
katt williams
It's almost like the story.
You have to be able to benefit from the zombie.
There's no benefit in that taken out of context.
If you're making them zombies so that they can mine for you, then there's a story of that over there.
That's the whole thing is when you look at these ancient writings, they're not saying like, yeah, so he was from another world and we had to bring him our kids and he would eat them in front of us.
They're not telling those stories.
They're saying like...
Agriculture and literature.
joe rogan
Cosmology.
Explain the origin of life.
Show the double helix DNA. To a fault.
katt williams
Nobody's saying anything outside of mathematic parameters.
joe rogan
Well, the wildest stuff is when you look at some of those old Sumerian tablets and you see how they had the solar system mapped out.
They had the sun in the center, looked just like a sun with all the marks around it.
It had Venus where it should be, Jupiter where it should be, Uranus where it should be.
They were all in the right spots.
It's crazy!
katt williams
The Ethiopian tribe had the same...
That's what I'm saying!
Like, no!
It's not...
Yeah, but there is no craziness.
Everything lines up.
The same grids.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That is just nuts, man.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what the conventional explanation for that is, because that Zachariah Sitchin guy who said all this stuff, he was often criticized.
That people said that he took things too far, that his analysis went too far, he just went into speculation, but goddamn, a lot of the stuff that he was saying, like, you could see the...
In the actual tablets themselves, they show these gigantic beings with these little tiny people sitting on their laps, and the people have tails.
Have you seen those?
It looks like genetic engineering.
katt williams
Maybe it's a tail, maybe it's piping.
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
Right, it could be piping.
katt williams
You understand?
What I'm saying is nobody's telling these outlandish people.
joe rogan
But they're all kind of all saying the same thing.
There's some higher power that comes and gives you structure, tells you what to do and how to live.
katt williams
And every society has information.
joe rogan
Information.
katt williams
That's what they give you.
joe rogan
They give you information.
katt williams
Every story, every civilization, every time.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
And that's what we're all thirsty for.
katt williams
Well, we're thirsty to monetize.
joe rogan
That's two.
But also, humans individually are thirsty for information.
We always want information.
We want gossip.
We want news.
We want bullshit.
We want science.
Especially if you have an appetite for, you know, things that make you think.
There's so much information that people are just constantly consuming.
There's bullshit information like TikTok and nonsense that just passes you by.
katt williams
Yeah, but none of that stuff is nonsense.
joe rogan
Well, it's not all nonsense.
What it is...
katt williams
It's just another offshoot.
joe rogan
...something to get your attention.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Which is what all of this is about.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
katt williams
From the Roman Colosseums to...
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The Roman Colosseums...
katt williams
King Arthur's court time, like...
joe rogan
That's the first viral videos, right?
katt williams
Right, right.
joe rogan
They would tell viral stories.
katt williams
Yeah.
This is all about this experience of being a human being in this amount of time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
And the interaction between other people who have done this thing you're doing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And in the middle of you doing it, you realize you only have a certain amount of time.
And you're like, God damn it.
I'm just starting to figure this game out.
katt williams
Right.
So understand that's...
I was probably like five years old when I had that moment.
So I lucked out because it happened to me so early.
But it wasn't about the...
Yeah, I got that part.
So I thought at like that age, I was thinking, okay, so I don't know how long I'm gonna live because I'm kind of conflicted about how long people live.
A hundred's a good number, but there's been people that 600 seems like this, but I'm just gonna space it out seven years at a time.
So every seven years, that's gonna be a life so I don't waste anything.
So I couldn't wait till I got seven because that was gonna be the start of my first life.
joe rogan
Why'd you bring it into sevens?
Just randomly?
katt williams
I don't know what randomly means.
It's a seldom seen thing in the universe.
Randomly.
joe rogan
So just seven seemed like a good number?
Was it instinctual?
katt williams
To people around the globe.
joe rogan
Seven.
Yeah.
katt williams
It's a great number.
joe rogan
It's a lucky number.
That's why I asked.
katt williams
Well, I'm saying not for no reason.
I'm saying if you like math, you know, I'm saying it's a great number.
That's how you know that the pyramids are about something because of what they represent mathematically.
That level of mathematical information is another step in civilization.
joe rogan
Yeah, the idea that that was just by accident.
katt williams
Trigonometry is not by accident.
joe rogan
Also that they figured out There's some measurement.
I don't want to bore anybody with the details because I'll butcher it too.
But it's the measurements of the height and width and the mass of the pyramid in comparison to the circumference of Earth.
They knew so much about where constellations would be at certain times of the year, like in the summer solstice.
It's just wild shit, man, that they did that all in stone.
katt williams
But not that wild, though, because we know that if you were traveling, that buoys are out there, and they're out there for certain reasons, and we understand satellite positioning.
No, no, it makes perfect sense.
joe rogan
Mmm.
Imagine that's what the pyramids were.
That was their ultimate buoy.
That was home base.
katt williams
Well, I'm saying it's not different than how we would treat a planet that we had not been to before.
joe rogan
No, not at all.
Not different at all.
katt williams
We would locate where's the best place to land, where is the most hospitable of this place, and we would put something there.
joe rogan
And let's imagine that we landed somewhere, and we found this lush, green, vibrant planet, and we found those hobbit people.
And those are the most advanced people.
Those Homo floreensis?
Is that what it is?
Flores?
Floreensis?
So this creature, this three foot tall human, imagine if we found them.
I guarantee you someone would want to introduce them to tools, introduce them to how to make fire, introduce them to figure out language, try to transfer their language to our language, try to teach them our stuff, try to genetically engineer them and turn them into something different.
If we have the tools that we have now, like CRISPR, and we found some primitive apes, and there was like a massive population of Australopithecus on a planet, and we said, look, they're on the way.
Let's just get them a little loosed.
Just give a little boost.
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
But not too much.
joe rogan
Not too much.
katt williams
And that's what you see with all of the UFO stories is they keep popping up in these times when we as a civilization are getting ready to F it up in real time.
joe rogan
In real time.
Yeah.
You know, that's like my comedy club.
That's why I named the rooms.
katt williams
The mothership.
joe rogan
I named the rooms Fat Man and Little Boy.
katt williams
Oh.
joe rogan
Because the UFO started coming after the big bombs.
That's when they really started like ramping up their presence.
katt williams
Like if you look at all the reports, the Flying Sauce reports, they're all like 1947. 1950, 1952. If you cross-engineer our shit, it's going to show up on our radar at some point.
Like, this information is...
joe rogan
Especially when we're using that information very recklessly.
Wild.
katt williams
Even in the Bible story, the Tower of Babel.
Right.
This story is that, you know, with everybody speaking the same language, it intensified shit.
Shit getting done.
And they could do stuff that was hazardous.
joe rogan
I think they're very close to being able to translate language instantaneously in real time.
Because they can do it right now with Samsung phones.
katt williams
They have the new Galaxy S24. Animals are doing it worldwide.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
They have some sort of a language.
They have some sort of a communication.
There's something going on with animals that's non-verbal.
katt williams
And with all of us.
joe rogan
You know Tom Green?
You know Tom Green, right?
katt williams
Yes.
joe rogan
Tom Green was here, and he has a mule.
And he said that you have a connection with that animal where you know you want to go left, and you start looking left, and that thing starts going left.
He goes, it's really crazy.
It's spooky.
He goes, you develop it.
It takes time.
They have to earn your respect.
But once you develop this loving relationship with this animal, you're tuned into it like an avatar creature.
Just like when they would lock onto their dragons.
He's like, dude, it's like that.
katt williams
I have that with women and with ducks and geese and Canadian geese and goats like I have.
But understand, again, that's part of some religions story.
Is that one of the gifts was the relationship between humans and the animal world.
And it's something that all civilizations have been able to use, and it's stayed true, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's amazing the relationship humans have with animals.
katt williams
Yeah, whether it's a horse.
No, there's no especially.
Like, all of them have their own beautiful thing.
joe rogan
Well, just horses don't interact with people the same way a dog does.
That's all I'm saying.
It's like the interaction you have with dogs is almost like psychic.
Dogs are like your little friends.
They know when you're in a bad mood.
They know when you hurt your foot.
When they're happy to see you every fucking time.
Every fucking time, bar none.
katt williams
I have that relationship with everybody that's...
Yeah, all animals and special needs people.
It's the innocence and the purity that you get.
It's not always good, but it's so...
joe rogan
We can learn from them.
katt williams
No, we have learned.
joe rogan
Yeah, we should know it.
But we're scared.
People are scared of other people being shitty, and we put up shields, and we worry about running too bad people.
katt williams
Well, it's been proven historically that Cain and Abel is a real story.
You know what I mean?
People are so violent these days, and that's true, but people have been violent.
There was this point where...
Humankind learned that they could take a life and it changed things, you know?
joe rogan
Well, especially take a life quickly with like when they figured out swords and bows and arrows and shit.
What do you think the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about?
Because I was just reading that last night.
unidentified
Cleanliness.
joe rogan
Cleanliness?
Yeah.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
That that's what took them out?
That like plague?
katt williams
Okay.
This is 69 times I've gotten canceled in this one conversation.
joe rogan
No, the stories of Sodom and Gomorrah, there's two speculations.
One of them was that God decided that they weren't hospitable enough.
And the other one was God had decided that there was too much sin.
katt williams
Wait a minute, that's not speculation, that's in the book.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
That first one.
joe rogan
Right, but the respectability part, that they were not hospitable enough?
katt williams
Yeah, that was a part of it.
joe rogan
That's part of it, too.
So God had just decided, I'm gonna fuck up this whole city.
katt williams
No, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Right, what's the real story, though?
katt williams
Okay, so...
joe rogan
Turned it into pillars of salt.
Two cities, right?
And he said, find me 50 good men, and I won't do this.
And then I think he said, find me 10 good men.
katt williams
Okay, so this story is generally used to say that God doesn't like homosexuals.
This is the story that highlights that.
joe rogan
Okay, so it's not just sin.
Because sodomy is even technically like oral sex.
katt williams
The meaning of that word comes from Sodom and Gomorrah.
Right.
joe rogan
That's why I said it technically includes a lot of things people think is deviant sex.
Yo, I gotta piss so bad.
Can we come back to this?
Sodom and Gomorrah.
Come back to this.
katt williams
I would love that.
joe rogan
Okay, let's take a look.
Sodom and Gomorrah.
katt williams
Yeah, so...
It tells several stories, but there had to be an explanation for what the story said happened to two cities of people, right?
joe rogan
Right.
There had to be a reason to tell that story.
Most likely.
katt williams
To tell this story, it requires all of those people that really have been killed in those circumstances.
And historical evidence shows us that something like that happened.
Like, those two cities really did exist.
joe rogan
Do we know where Sodom and Gomorrah was?
katt williams
Are you kidding?
I know a guy who will pull that information up so fast and put it on the screen.
joe rogan
Young Jamie?
Like, is there speculation?
katt williams
His sidekick is awake now.
You're going to see the best part of him when Carl wakes up.
joe rogan
Carl's awake now.
He's a 3.30 waker.
Right.
katt williams
As we all would be if we were in charge of our schedules.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
What do they think that it...
Is there real speculation as to where it was?
katt williams
It's not speculation.
A lot of these places...
Just change names.
They used to be called this and then they later were called something else.
joe rogan
Iraq used to be Sumer.
katt williams
These are literal places that you can find on the real map.
That was a part of that biblical rabbit hole I was telling you about.
My only concern is how do these ancient Islamic, Judea, how do you say that, those three that exist,
that all religion is built on, Judeo-Christian, Islamic, that whole belief system of how that Operates, right.
So you see they have question marks here, right?
Only because they know that there were cities there.
joe rogan
So they have wreckage there?
katt williams
Like, for example, if everybody in Gaza talks about going there...
It exists.
If everybody in Hebron has family members that live there, it exists.
If everybody, we know that.
joe rogan
So they think that was right near the Dead Sea.
Wow.
katt williams
Well, they didn't think it any differently than they thought.
Talal Hammam, if I'm pronouncing that correct.
These were places.
People throughout history, if you show anybody of water, those are always hot spots.
Water is its own commodity and currency at all points, and that was the Dead Sea.
But that's everywhere.
joe rogan
Was the Dead Sea always the Dead Sea?
God damn, there's so much interesting stuff that came from that part of the world.
That's where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls.
katt williams
But a lot of the stuff that was supposed to be unbelievable was all based on something real.
How long was it the Dead Sea?
Long before they knew what high salt content was.
Or they might have called it high salt content sea.
But what they were trying to say is...
Stuff's not growing here.
Don't come here as a fishing spot.
joe rogan
But it's a good spot to gather salt, which at that point in time was as valuable as anything on earth.
They'd go to war for salt.
Salt allowed people to preserve their food.
Salt was insanely valuable.
katt williams
Understand the whole portions.
Because at the end of the day, for all people, it comes down to quality of life.
So the jump that was made between people eating food that you had to kill yourself catching just so that you could put it over something hot so that you could get it where you could eat it and eating it like you...
That experience to seasoning your food and having an order from the best place.
joe rogan
Eating too much spaghetti so you get fat.
katt williams
Right.
That's part of the greatness of human experience and has been.
Part of being a king or being royalty through all civilizations was being able to experience the best Culinary things.
Because if you believe in God, that's one of the attributes that makes you believe in Him.
Because every vegetable, let's say, that you would have, when it gets to the point where it would spoil and it would be useless and you'd have to throw it away, it becomes worth more money.
joe rogan
Because it's compost.
katt williams
No.
So...
joe rogan
What do you mean?
katt williams
Like, if you have potatoes, right?
And so you have potatoes, but now you got too many potatoes.
You could get vodka from that.
And if you have too much rice, you could get sake from that.
And if you got too much wheat and barley, you can get...
And everything that you could have too much of, we got too many grapes, you could get wine with that.
The whole...
That's why alcohol is called spirits, because it's literally a gift from God.
Just something that's just for your...
Milk, once it's going bad, that's where cheese comes in.
Like, whatever it is you would be having as a commodity.
Grapes to raisins, wherever.
Like, this is why we believe mathematically.
Because of the certain things that are just done for the enjoyment of...
joe rogan
So you think there's a reason why all these things exist, why like rotting fruit can become alcohol, alcohol can put you in a different state of mind.
All of it is connected together so that you discover it and figure it out.
katt williams
Unless you can figure out the benefit that a mushroom gets for being hallucinogenic.
Or the frog that's the special ones, what special benefit did that frog get from that?
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
Why is a frog making DMT? Is he living a better life as a frog?
Does he live under the effects residually of...
joe rogan
Constantly carrying around DMT. Right.
Right.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Well, they secrete it when they're scared, right?
Isn't that the whole idea?
That you take them and you rub them on a windshield?
katt williams
It's weaponized from the beginning.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
They're scared because they think they're going to die, so their body's producing it.
katt williams
Just like ours.
Perfumes and colognes was whoever saw a skunk in action first.
Because, you know, that's when someone was able to see how powerful smell is.
Even from a distance.
And the aerosol.
You know what I mean?
We've learned so much from that world.
That's how we know.
We were able to look at animals and insects and understand that we would be able to do the helicopter after we...
Got past Orville and Wilbur in Dayton, Ohio.
You know what I mean?
Like, we understood, because we had seen the hummingbird, you know what I mean?
Like, we had seen how things worked.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen those Egyptian gliders?
They found these gliders, these wooden things that they carved that look like fucking planes, and they were in some of the tombs that they had found?
Thousands of years old.
Looks like a fucking airplane.
I mean, straight up looks exactly like an airplane.
katt williams
Da Vinci is saying that these are things talked about there.
Like, even if you're just following Jesus, right?
Okay, so you believe that he was perfect and that this was how he grew up and got it?
When it comes to him going to get information, he went to this specific place that we're talking about to get information and to get taught.
And that's not a hidden fact.
It's been that way.
You can't be reading all of these stories and not see how everything lines up.
joe rogan
It does kind of line up in a strange way.
You try to decipher it from all the different cultures.
They all had their different versions of it.
But at the end of it, there's a lot of similarities.
If you follow the stories and, like, what are they saying?
All of them have some sort of a creation myth.
Isn't that odd, though, that a creature, if you think of human beings as a creature, that a human being that's never created a being itself Has this idea that a magical force that is all-knowing and all-loving created, not they evolved, not they came from this and they learned, they got better, but that they were created.
And that seems like a universal story, the created story.
katt williams
That's only because the duck that's outside of my house right now believes that.
What?
So the duck is sitting on six eggs on a nest right by the house, right by a 250-pound dog alibi.
And...
Believes that it has life that it's sitting on and it's going to come from that and that there's somebody there that looks out for them and makes sure they're fed.
In the Bible story it says the sparrows said, like Jesus said, who feeds the sparrows?
Like, worldwide, there's how many birds?
Like, billions and billions and billions of birds.
Like, who's feeding them every day?
Like, real talk.
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
Yeah, because what you're looking for is you need to find a mistake.
That's how we would know maybe there's no creator.
But we don't go through our regular life seeing things and thinking nobody created it.
That would be as weird as us being in this room going, nobody made those curtains, nobody made these cameras.
We never have evidence of that.
joe rogan
Why do you think people have a reluctance to take in the idea of a creator?
What do you think about it to them?
There's some people that fancy themselves as intellectuals, and they refuse to take in a concept for which there's no proof.
And that's what they'll say.
They use this very reductionist view of what God is, and they'll say there's no proof.
And that, you know, they're a staunch atheist.
And a lot of them, they even talk like religious people.
Almost their atheism becomes a religion.
Instead of being completely open-minded to the possibility that you have zero idea what happens when you die.
katt williams
A lot of people that are atheists don't like God.
And God will have to exist for them to not like.
So the whole thing is if you were to believe in the Big Bang, you would have to believe that that had happened several you would have to believe that that had happened several times throughout history.
Just because that's what we've seen from everything that's been created.
joe rogan
We don't see one individual unique thing that exists and is responsible for all things, except the Big Bang.
That was what Terrence McKenna always said.
katt williams
There's too much thought that went into certain things, like the fact that You can study all the butterflies and not one of them has a sense of humor.
You know what I mean?
But me and you do.
And it goes for all humans.
Universally, if we see somebody trip and fall, we all laugh no matter what our back...
Like there are certain, yeah, like there's, I'm trying to think of what the reasons are to not believe, but I can't remember what they are because it doesn't line up with anything.
We would have had to have gone in space and there would be no other planets, just this one.
joe rogan
Just that shit.
katt williams
For this story to make sense universally.
Like, we're at a terrible time in history to say, oh, we don't believe in people from outer space when we can go to outer space.
Like, it's almost asinine to try to make both of those make sense.
And to think that there's...
Our son is not the biggest son, right?
joe rogan
Not even close.
katt williams
But it's the biggest son we ever gonna see, right?
So it's the biggest fucking son, right?
But the truth is, no, it's way bigger.
A thought went into picking this particular sun for this planet and the moon and the positioning of much as if you were building a house.
You would put particulars in like Kid Rock to make sure that throughout the Time period of history, you put a stamp and a mark on it.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
Right?
That's why if you were extraterrestrial, let's say, and you were going to build one building on this planet, it would be the pyramid.
Like, most people don't even understand that there was a whole outer covering on that thing, and gold capped at the top.
Gold capped, smooth limestone.
It was a planetary...
Monument.
unidentified
You might be right.
joe rogan
It makes more sense than the idea that these people pushed those things into place and then got them hundreds of miles out of the mountain with ropes.
Shut the fuck up.
katt williams
Throughout history, we have not done things that did not profit us.
And not 150 years from now.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
Now.
Right.
joe rogan
Now, always.
katt williams
All through history.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
So, to be thinking that this particular civilization...
Oh, you know what we all care about?
When he gonna die.
unidentified
Let's...
katt williams
We all...
I dedicate my life to when he gonna die.
I'm gonna die while I... Yeah.
No, history doesn't say that in any way.
joe rogan
It's also the sheer mass.
3,200,000 stones in the Great Pyramid.
That is so much mass.
katt williams
All of the wonders of the world...
Are truly that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a bunch of them, too, man.
The wild shit that they're digging out of Turkey is nuts, too.
That's the Gobekli Tepe place where they found 12,000-year-old structures back at the time when they thought people were just using sticks and stones and hunter-gatherers.
katt williams
No, no.
Because the whole time they were saying that it was there.
joe rogan
Yep.
katt williams
But understand, these are the things worthy of a war.
Just so you know.
joe rogan
Worthy of a war.
Yeah.
katt williams
You see what I'm saying?
All throughout history.
Like, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
That's the only...
The thing a rational person can take from Hitler's story is being able to see what if you had unlimited resource and ability to just follow global rabbit holes.
You find out that most stuff that is labeled BS is not BS. BS is very hard to come by.
joe rogan
Well, the Hitler thing is real weird because the Nazis are really into the occult.
katt williams
At some point in the information process, that was required.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
It was required to be into the occult.
katt williams
Um...
So in the world of medicine, certain things, before they had a label of being toxic, you just knew don't touch it.
You know what I mean?
You didn't know what it was good for.
But those occultists were the keepers of things that did work, not things that did not work.
Right.
So.
But throughout history, that whole process of thinking, anything that could fall into the alchemy conversation was seen anything that could fall into the alchemy conversation was seen as a cult based.
It meant doing something unnatural.
So even like the blacksmith was considered a part of that world through most of history.
Really?
Because he had an unnatural relationship with elements.
He was able to take this and turn it into things.
joe rogan
Forged steel.
Yeah.
Oh, that makes sense.
I always wondered, at the heart of alchemy...
katt williams
All processes that are discussed at these pyramids, because they're all processes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I've always wondered if alchemy is trying to regain lost knowledge.
Like if at one point in time they did know how to just make metals.
They did know how to create elements.
They did know how to change lead into gold or whatever the fuck they wanted to do.
katt williams
That's what this whole line consisted of.
But it required...
Money and time and all royalty, all kings, all great leaders of the world, this is what you paid for, was people that could make things happen.
So being able to understand the weather and to then be able to manipulate it in any way possible was valuable all through human history.
All the way before we get to the seeding of clouds part.
joe rogan
Do you think they had the ability to manipulate weather back then?
It'd be wild if they did.
If that's what caused the Sahara Desert to emerge.
Because all that shit used to be lush tropical rainforest.
Imagine if that's humans fucking with cloud seeding.
Would they just ruin it?
katt williams
Well, that wouldn't explain how that has its own environment that's just as valuable.
You know what I mean?
It goes to further back up what I was telling you about how it seems like somebody put thought into every scenario you might be in.
So let's say you lived in one of them deserts and all you had was cactus.
Guess what?
You could take that cactus and make tequila too.
joe rogan
True.
katt williams
Like, every part of the process, like...
joe rogan
People figure something out.
katt williams
Not people figure something out.
Something is there to be figured out.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, that's what the indigenous people say about ayahuasca.
They said that the plants told them how to make it.
The mushrooms told them how to make it.
katt williams
As a person that loves nature, you know that most of your experience in nature is based upon how other things react.
You know what I mean?
So you don't know that this is poisonous except for the fact that it doesn't look like anything's eating whatever's on here.
And it looks like everything is avoiding it.
Like, these are real things.
And that requires creation as well.
The whole consequence thing and the fact that this animal is able to live with this thing that's going to be doing damage to you.
joe rogan
So let me ask you this, because this is the end conclusion of that.
If creation is real, and if God is real, and if God created us...
katt williams
Wait a minute, hold on.
Let's be specific.
Creation of what?
I just told you about my ducks and her eggs.
That creation is real for sure.
joe rogan
For sure.
katt williams
And life is going to come from that.
joe rogan
What I mean is that God created everything and that there really is a reason for all of it.
What is the reason for us?
Like if God really did make all these things synchronized together and put us here.
katt williams
First of all, I'm grateful even if you're not.
I'm very grateful.
What an experience.
joe rogan
Amazing time.
katt williams
Right?
And if you take time and space out of things, right?
The people that sold me Call of Duty, right, gave me a great experience that I've been enjoying for years and years and years.
and the person that I am on that platform is the person I would like to be all and experience has been delivered it's It would be like saying, what was the thinking on somebody making an amusement park?
Um...
To amuse people so that they could have a full experience and be able to enjoy it.
You know that because things happen like the humor thing that I was telling you about and health, how important good health is over the opposite of that and how everything works without you needing to Micromanage it.
Your heart doesn't require you to count its beats.
What's the percentage of brains?
That are working perfectly versus the ones that are not like.
All of the processes needed to run you are just too well done to be thrown away like not important.
Because if you learn about it, you'll learn about the whole workings of the universe.
And it's like that in too many ways.
Different places for us to ignore and the fact that we get a chance to have that experience while at the same time looking at a dog and understanding.
That our life is one billion times greater than Fido's.
And we can make sure Fido has a glorious life.
And ours is still so magnificent.
That we are in control of certain things.
And that we can not get things right and then get it right.
And not know things and then know things and then, you know...
It's a wonderful experience that was created.
joe rogan
It is a wonderful experience and we seem to have by far the most unique one on the planet.
We seem very different than everything else.
Very different than everything else.
Purposely.
Yeah, purposely.
That's why I always wonder.
katt williams
Super efficient.
joe rogan
What are we here for?
What is the purpose?
Is it just to enjoy and be grateful?
Which is great.
Like, one of the things that terrifies people, it's a very interesting concept that terrifies people.
People are terrified of living the same life over and over and over again.
If you tell people that the journey of your soul is that you will live your life over and over again until you get it right.
And one day you'll get it right.
In one lifetime you'll achieve enlightenment.
But you're going to go through the same lifetime over and over and over again until you get it right.
People are terrified of that.
katt williams
Right, but that will require a creator though.
joe rogan
Sure it would, but what I'm saying is, why would you be terrified of that when you're not terrified to exist right now?
Why are you terrified of existing right now forever?
I don't find that terrifying.
If you enjoy now.
If you enjoy now, now's great.
katt williams
Whenever you die, it's forever.
You know what I mean?
So I know and have known in my life that I'm going to live forever.
I know I'll die, but I know I'm going to live forever until then and then live beyond that.
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Well, that certainly is a better approach to life in that it gives you comfort.
katt williams
No, that's what history shows us.
History has shown us that.
joe rogan
In what way?
katt williams
That human beings are still here not because of our wise decision making.
Like, nobody's story says that.
We've gotten assistance along the way that we needed it and we have implemented it globally.
This is why those...
One world people exist because it's a very powerful concept to have and far too lucrative and beneficial to not Be attempted.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, if I was gonna run some global power organization, I would try to co-opt every single leader, try to suck them in, offer support, bring them out to wherever the fuck I have my big-ass meetings, fly everybody in in private jets, talk about the climate crisis.
katt williams
All organizations have to follow the same rules.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's wild.
katt williams
Recruitment is an important facet of all.
joe rogan
We have to get some young global leaders.
katt williams
Well, understand, this is the only reason that we can talk about these big Illuminati-like entities at this period of time.
It's just because of time.
Like, they aged out.
Like, you can't get in new, so...
Everybody got decrepit over there, and they can't exchange, really, through this period of history.
And so that's how we ended up with the Bob Lazar's and everything.
Throughout history, you could really...
It was much easier to get people to not tell nobody.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
As part of your job.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Imagine going to a World Economic Forum party...
What did those freaks do when all the listening devices have been scanned out of the room, all their phones been put into bags, and locked away in a lead vault?
What do those freaks do?
Because you know it's not normal shit.
You know everybody's buttoned down like that and wants to control the world?
There's something involved that's outlandish that they keep a secret.
That's always been the case with secret societies.
I mean, that's the whole eyes wide shut thing.
That there's some freak shit going on behind the scenes to anybody that really wants to control everything.
You don't just want to control everything.
You want to control everything so you can get away with some freak shit, too.
katt williams
Right, I'm saying, but these Epstein-like characters have existed throughout history, whether they were kings or what, like human beings are human beings universally, so everybody is a supplier.
Epstein, Weinstein, like these guys knew what These extremists liked and provided it and provided the way for you to have a billion dollars and not create a fantasy island type environment has
not existed throughout history.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And there's always been those people could only kind of interact with those kind of people.
When you reach that certain level of wealth and global success, like you're a Bill Gates type guy, how many guys can Bill Gates hang out with?
Bill Gates can't just go bowl and join the bowling team and make friends with other bowlers.
It's too weird.
He's got to hang out with his kind.
And the more you do that, the less you are in touch with what makes sense to say.
And that's when you see them saying the most outlandish shit, because they don't recognize how regular people are going to react to what the fuck you're saying.
You know, what?
We're going to own nothing and be happy?
What the fuck did you just say?
Did you just say I'm going to own nothing and be happy?
But there's things.
So who owns the things?
And who enforces who owns the things?
And how do you do that?
When you take away everybody's weapons, you're the only one that has weapons?
And you get to decide who owns the things.
And no one owns the things.
And everyone's happy.
Okay.
katt williams
Right, but part of what you're trying to do is you're trying to come up with something that allows you to have the power while also profiting simultaneously, right?
So if it's modern religion, let's say.
So in the teaching of Jesus' time, right?
They said pay the tithes, right?
It was you had your whole farming plot.
Let's say it was 40 acres and you had corn planted there, right?
You would just, when it came time to harvest, you would harvest everything except the rows that were on the fence, right?
And the rows that were on the fence, that was the 10% of your field that would go to people that didn't have it.
So it wasn't just you giving the 10%.
It was also the fact that human nature is if you were going to give people some of your crops, you're going to pick out the best crops for you and your family, and then you'll put another pile for the giveaway.
You know what I'm saying?
And this took care of that where it was all equal, and the person that didn't have didn't have to feel like they was a beggar.
They could come and pick and see which corn they liked and get...
You see what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, that's a smart move just for harmony in the community, too.
Then people have a vested interest in this farmer being successful with his crop.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Some of that crop is yours.
katt williams
But the decision to take it from that to God said, give me 10% in this plate, is going to make a billion dollars a day for a billion people.
This is why Tesla has to go.
Why?
Because not what Tesla is saying about electricity.
It's the fact that he's saying this should be free for everybody everywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, he wanted to have aerial electricity free for everybody like radio waves.
katt williams
And the day that you say that...
joe rogan
That's a wrap.
katt williams
It's cheaper to keep her because we make $200 billion a day and we all agree universally you should pay for this and we'll be in charge of selling it to you.
joe rogan
And we'll shut it off if you fuck around.
katt williams
So for us to say, I think they're going to do that with cars.
joe rogan
Duh.
katt williams
This is how this goes in these processes.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the conspiracy theorist's biggest fear about electric cars.
But it's not just electric cars.
We found out it's an on-star.
You know, I have a Cadillac Escalade.
That has an on-star.
If I'm driving and the government wants to stop me, they can just shut my car off.
It's crazy.
katt williams
And if you were in that business, what would you tell them they need to do in the next five years?
Get better at it?
joe rogan
Yeah, get better at that.
Control where they go.
Control the steering wheel.
Control everything.
I want you to do auto driving on all cars.
Auto driving on all cars with third-party input.
katt williams
Is this not what we would say to Tesla?
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
I mean, to Elon, if he said, I want to make cars?
Right.
When we say, okay, well, these are the regulations, and you have to make them like this.
joe rogan
It'd be nice if you just control that car.
Here, this is how you sell it to people.
If someone steals your car, we can get it back.
And you go, oh, that's great.
If someone steals my car, they can get it back.
How are they going to get it back?
Well, they control your car.
katt williams
You can make it cheap enough...
To not be a difficult sell, though, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, make it cheap.
katt williams
That's what capitalism is about.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's also like when you get free internet or free services through Google, right?
It's free.
But what you're giving up is your data, which is extremely valuable.
So they're giving you something.
You can now use Google, but now they have all your data.
And they're just a big net that mines data.
And because of that, they become one of the most powerful entities that's ever existed on Earth.
You know, there was a story that I was trying to find.
katt williams
We learned this from fishermen, how a net works.
And how much it's important to get as much in as you possibly can and that that's where analytics live and that's where I'm saying this is where the DNA industry is built off of is the fact of the future.
At that same point that you're saying that we'll have those cars that do that, They'll be able to predict crime and step in before certain things even need to happen.
joe rogan
Or they'll probably instigate you to a certain level of stress that they could indicate that you're about to commit crime.
And then they come in and get you.
katt williams
They won't need to be that nefarious only because...
Some of this stuff we know already, it just requires profiling that we're not comfortable with.
Worldwide, most terrible crimes are committed by...
This is the 73rd time I'm gonna get canceled.
Most crime worldwide is done by men with a micropenis.
And doctors know who they are.
And so, at some point, they would be able to just focus where they need to focus and they would know certain things.
And that's where, you know, this is why AI exists.
You know, if you're your personal AI, you store your information, You make moves based upon what you've learned.
So it's not a difficult process.
All through history they had these oracles and these Heads that gave answers, and this is where that whole occult conversation intersects, because at the end of the day, information is information, and the universe is built on a yin-yang thing that replies to everybody.
joe rogan
And we're slowly getting connected to that oracle, slowly getting sucked into that black hole to the point where it will be inescapable.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And those old billionaire dudes would love to be in control of all that.
katt williams
Look, what else are you to do with that type of money, Joseph?
joe rogan
Buy a bigger yacht.
Yeah, that's the problem.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
It's like, what's the next game?
What's the real game?
katt williams
As human beings, that's what our expectations are of...
unidentified
Always.
katt williams
What can you do?
And at the end of the day, no matter how much money you amass, it's only about either How you can help others.
And if you do that, you're never going to be fulfilled either because you're never going to help enough people.
And that's going to be your whole thing is not being able to help enough people and just wishing that you could help more.
Right.
Or feeling like everybody is a commodity and that's the way these things work and find out who I'm going to take advantage of and do so.
And that's a major part of a lot of things.
joe rogan
Another major pattern that human beings fall into time and time again.
katt williams
Well, you know, the Jewish people are powerful people on this planet, and a lot of that has to do with the process that they have in instilling in their young people a certain amount of information and wherewithal and conversation that does not happen with other cultures, let's say.
joe rogan
And...
katt williams
That exists only in a few places around the world, but they're always important, especially if you look at things from a non-religious point of view.
joe rogan
Again, it goes back to information.
katt williams
At all points.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, all cultures exchanging information with each other in the healthiest cultures.
Are the ones that can both give the most freedom and allow people to innovate.
katt williams
Right.
Helping ourselves and others.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
And the profit and the benefit and the...
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
That's part of the process.
unidentified
Right?
katt williams
But that's no different than what everybody's religious story says.
Like...
joe rogan
What do you think ghosts are?
You think that's real?
katt williams
I, um...
Interestingly, I don't believe in...
You either believe in the natural and the supernatural or you don't.
And there are facets to everything.
So if you don't believe in anything supernatural, then I would assume that means you don't believe in God either.
It's like I was telling you earlier.
I don't know how you could be a Christian and not believe in extraterrestrials.
It's in your book.
It says there was a war in heaven and God was fighting Satan and threw him down here.
This is taking place.
joe rogan
Also, when you get to the Old Testament, Ezekiel's story.
Ezekiel's story is essentially about a UFO encounter.
katt williams
I was really...
I was really frustrated as a black person that we weren't included more in the Bible.
And so I was very...
I felt very good when I found that some of the books of the Bible that were banned were banned because they had black guys in them.
joe rogan
Really?
What books of the Bible?
This is the New Testament?
Is this when they were Constantine?
katt williams
You've heard about the book of Enoch?
unidentified
Yes.
Right.
katt williams
So, if you know that book, it says that Noah was an albino.
joe rogan
I always wondered about Noah's age.
They talked about him being hundreds of years old.
katt williams
And it tells everybody's story.
joe rogan
But here's my thought.
If human beings were, at one point in time, more technologically advanced than we are now, which is possible, We are on the verge of taking human life and expanding it way beyond 100 years.
We're like real close to that.
katt williams
The people that are alive today will live to be 150. I'm not qualified to be having any of this conversation.
joe rogan
I'm barely qualified because I've talked to a lot of qualified people.
katt williams
Disclaimer, but understand, we know more now.
Like, we know that the earth is not spinning now the same way that it once was.
We know that.
joe rogan
We get slightly different.
Measurably different, right?
katt williams
I'm saying the interesting thing is in all of those stories that we're talking about, it never says that they did anything different that got them to be in that position.
It just says that they were Blessed by God.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were there.
katt williams
This is at a time when people were dying of some things that today we would call pretty easy.
But it was wiping out whole groups of people.
unidentified
Yeah, it's interesting.
joe rogan
Well, it's fascinating because...
There's no way to go back there and see what the fuck was going on.
So no matter what, not yet.
katt williams
Well, let's be fair, though.
They're not telling some wild story.
Like, if they say that this guy lived...
600 years.
They're also telling you about the 346 children that he had and his 1,500 wives.
Like, hold on.
These are numbers to back up.
joe rogan
Right.
If human beings do live to be 500 years old, that's a real possibility.
katt williams
That would be the only way that you could show that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
Is by...
joe rogan
Talking about all the wives and all the children all the and if you do take what we know now In terms of like what they are capable of doing now with with human beings and lengthening telomeres.
There's a lot of different Methodologies that they're using that they believe will extend human life use of metformin NMN Hyperbaric chambers.
There's a bunch of different things they're doing and then there's CRISPR When they're doing genetic engineering on kids now, in China, they did genetic engineering that would make the children more likely to be brilliant, more likely to be super intelligent.
katt williams
Sir, sir, why are you acting surprised by key components of the breeding process?
joe rogan
Right.
True, right?
katt williams
If we're talking about...
If we're talking about Frisians or if we're talking about German Shepherds or Doberman Pizzards, this is perfectly fine, right?
unidentified
Right.
katt williams
For me to say that thanks to these reasons, this dog is the sheer example of the confirmation of the breed and that...
His attributes are his intelligence and his loyalty and his...
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
Right.
This is all part of these...
joe rogan
You could do that shit in a test tube for your kid.
Why wouldn't you do it?
That's what they're...
I think they're going to start off with normal stuff.
katt williams
It all starts off as normal stuff because it's abnormal.
So the first thing you're doing is, oh, okay, so we're in charge of...
Like, how could you not?
joe rogan
How could you not?
katt williams
Is more the question to be had.
And that's why in that profession, they're allowed to do certain things and then tell you they're not going to do it no more.
joe rogan
Yes.
katt williams
That's a key component to it.
joe rogan
We're not going to do that anymore, Kat.
We changed our mind.
Yeah, if they're telling you that there's no clones, the guy telling you is probably a fucking clone.
At this point, I have no doubt that they've made human clones.
They've made dog clones.
You can get your dog cloned.
If your dog's gonna die, you can get the DNA from your dog, get a fucking puppy, and it'll be eerily similar to your dog.
They think including some personality traits, which is just very bizarre, very pet cemetery.
katt williams
Right.
joe rogan
But if they can do that, why can't they do that to people?
They can!
katt williams
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Before this goes off the rail.
joe rogan
It's too late.
katt williams
Because there is a god, the bar has been set so insanely high for your clone.
That you can't really get much usage out of it.
joe rogan
Well, if there is a God and you have a clone, the clone doesn't have a soul, because you don't have a soul to give that clone.
katt williams
Or a personality.
Or certain things like a subconscious.
Like, that's not available on the market.
Lungs are.
Heart is.
Arms are.
Right.
Subconscious, we still don't have the understanding of that or how we're able to be as brilliant as we are in this world while only using a portion of the...
There are those of us that know what the pineal gland...
What medicine says it's for and what that would mean.
And so those people's job is to make sure that there's fluoride in all the water.
So your pineal gland will shrivel.
joe rogan
Get calcified or whatever happens to it.
katt williams
That's all.
joe rogan
The fluoride thing is wild.
The fact that people aren't up in arms about them putting fluoride in your fucking drinking water is so crazy.
It's so unnecessary.
katt williams
It's brilliant on the other end, though.
So what happened is the reason people have that relationship is...
They cleaned up the water the same time that they did that.
You saw what I'm saying?
So people at that time just remembered the water not being that great.
And then all of a sudden the water is really great and it's got fluoride and it's good for you.
joe rogan
Good for your teeth.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Despite the fact that there's direct correlations between high levels of fluoride in drinking water and low IQs.
They think it lowers people's IQs.
They think it's terrible for you.
Fluoride's dangerous.
You're not supposed to swallow toothpaste.
katt williams
Look, whatever you're saying, people won't find out about that for a hundred years, and I'm not even going to be a hundred.
And most of these decisions are made like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Most people are terribly unaware of the fluoride thing.
When you bring it up, they always say it's good for your teeth.
Don't you brush your fucking teeth?
Why do you need fluoride?
Why do you need fluoride in your water?
Are you sure that's why your teeth aren't falling out?
katt williams
It's the fact that people don't understand that it's a toxic thing that you can't buy or purchase or handle.
It's in your drinking water!
joe rogan
And it's not doing you any good other than supposedly it's good for your teeth.
katt williams
Well, even if it was...
joe rogan
Yeah, even if it was.
unidentified
At what cost?
katt williams
Even if it was great for your teeth and your bones, you drinking it wouldn't be the way you'd be trying to get that.
joe rogan
No.
katt williams
But...
unidentified
I don't even use fluoride toothpaste.
katt williams
I'm not gonna let you take me where this conversation is going.
unidentified
Where's it going?
katt williams
Now that we went to fluoride, I'm gonna have to cut no further than that because once you start having the what they'll do, you understand everything's a campaign and that's how you can approach everything is find out Who's making money off this?
Where's the profit?
How does this make sense?
joe rogan
Somewhere right now, the fluoride plants are going, what the fuck are they talking about?
Did somebody just introduce legislation to try to remove fluoride from some state from drinking water?
Some people are waking up to it.
They're realizing, like, this is so unnecessary and obviously not good.
katt williams
Well, just understand that there are far too many places that don't have clean waters.
So, you know, like...
unidentified
Flint, Michigan.
joe rogan
Still.
Still.
Still that water's fucked up.
There's...
What about that place in Ohio where that...
katt williams
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
unidentified
And...
katt williams
Why?
Because it's...
Nobody wants it to be their fault.
So nobody will take, like...
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
You understand how...
joe rogan
Well, even the government.
There's plenty of money for Ukraine.
katt williams
Not even.
Like, how are we allowed to have a foreign policy when we are violating the policies here?
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
You see what I'm saying?
Like, what do you mean the immigrants are getting a check and we're putting them up in places?
What?
You mean in the homeless people's face?
joe rogan
Right, in the homeless people's faces.
unidentified
Like, let us show you what we could have done.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
Wow.
joe rogan
Crazy.
katt williams
That's not okay as a society.
joe rogan
No.
Well, did you see the scam that they were trying to do in New York City?
Where they were trying to give them debit cards for $10,000, but there's people getting cuts all along the way?
katt williams
That wasn't a scam.
That was business that got uncovered.
And I'll prove it to you.
When you go to jail in New York, everybody goes to Rikers Island.
So I was in Rikers Island.
So if you got money on you when you go in, they give you a card when you're leaving.
And it's got money on it.
Your amount.
Systems are the system.
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of money being made.
katt williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of money being tossed around in the system.
And if you have a thing like an open immigration policy, for sure, someone's figuring out how to profit off that.
Someone's figuring out something about that.
katt williams
No, no.
You're looking at it the wrong way.
There is no one who isn't profiting.
joe rogan
Everyone's profiting.
katt williams
I'm saying, how ridiculous is it for you to think you have the greatest country in the world and then it not be a big deal to get there?
joe rogan
Of course.
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Of course.
katt williams
This is the bees saying Why do they love our honey so much?
joe rogan
Well, no one's shocked at that.
What people are shocked at is that there's no effort whatsoever to stop the stem of illegal immigration.
That's what people are freaked out about.
It seems like it's on purpose.
katt williams
We're not freaked out about the loss of bees.
joe rogan
I am.
katt williams
If all the bees are gone, we're going to die as a civilization because we didn't protect one of the most important insects in the whole ecosystem.
joe rogan
And they think cell phone signals are fucking them up too.
Can you imagine you're going to be forever and then all of a sudden someone introduces cell phone signals everywhere?
katt williams
This is part of the purpose of religion in society is to try to get you away from exploring all of the things you could be doing with your time and put it somewhere that's healthier.
joe rogan
Like, what do you mean?
katt williams
Like principles of meditation and, you know, believing that you should be trying to do a good job and being nice.
You know, because it's not really that profitable, right?
But here we are talking about, you know, that's what really would help our country and civilization if we treated the downtrodden better.
But the truth is, there's very little money in that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
katt williams
There's very little money in that.
The truth is that the immigrants that come over here are generally super qualified at something.
joe rogan
Yeah, and motivated.
I mean, shit.
katt williams
If I had just walked here...
That's what's made all immigration important.
You know what I mean?
The Mexican people were...
The second, well, they were their own jolt to the civilization of the fact that, yeah, you say, oh, they shouldn't come over, but anybody that comes over willing to work hard and succeed, and those are people you want, and they immediately help.
Like, you can look at the extremes, of course, but the benefit, Astronomical and always have been since Pangea.
joe rogan
Yeah, the benefits are great.
The side effects are crime.
And that's what you have to be careful of.
Especially when you've got organized crime that's coming into cell fentanyl.
You've got a lot of that.
That's a wild one.
Because that's propped up by laws.
That's propped up by our drug laws.
And that puts you in a real complicated situation.
Do you make drugs legal?
Everything?
Everything legal.
The problem is you're going to get a bunch of people that get addicted to drugs that probably wouldn't without that.
And then you have to say, is that just part of the process?
We have to learn to deal with this new thing that's everywhere and readily available?
And how many people are going to try it just because it's legal?
Probably quite a few.
But at least how many people are not going to die from fentanyl poisoning because they're going to get pure stuff?
Probably a lot.
katt williams
Uh...
Yeah, well, talking fentanyl in specific, it's a very difficult conversation to have because most of the things that we will all agree are terrible drugs aren't being used at the hospital.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
So until that part gets taken, it's a bad look all the way around.
But the bar has been set so high.
Everything that's called a drug nowadays is terrible.
There's been no evolution.
Yikes.
joe rogan
Well, that's part of the problem of keeping drugs illegal, and especially psychedelic drugs since 1970. It's like stymied human evolution, stymied research, stymied growth.
katt williams
What did?
joe rogan
Keeping drugs illegal, keeping psychedelic drugs illegal.
katt williams
Look, if there was...
joe rogan
Specifically psychedelic drugs.
katt williams
If there was a God, then he put a failsafe on the drug so that you would have a...
joe rogan
And that's Richard Nixon?
katt williams
That's ODing.
joe rogan
ODing, yeah.
Right, with those drugs.
katt williams
Right, so really what's happening is you're like, okay, whatever you're on, do it to your dead.
And so, you know...
Statistically, that's going to happen.
You're going to lose some people, but the people that's not doing it, they're not going to start doing it.
joe rogan
Right, and they're going to learn from the people that died.
Like you learned to not eat poisonous plants.
katt williams
You would think, but if that were true, nobody in the world would ever do heroin.
If you've ever seen somebody kick it, you would never do it.
It doesn't matter how it makes you feel if the end result is...
Like defecating and urinating in a puddle that you're laying in while being naked.
True.
You would just call that poisonous.
joe rogan
If you respond.
Yeah.
You would learn.
You would learn from other people doing it.
And that's the thing.
It's like we're reluctant to allow that factor into people's lives.
But we kind of have with a lot of other factors.
katt williams
Well, a lot of these things were used sparingly and in context as well.
You follow what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Particularly a lot of psychedelics.
They were used in a ritualistic way.
katt williams
But that's like us saying, you know, in that cooking show, they were using herbs and spices.
Like, yeah, that goes with it.
If somebody tells you that when they used to come through with the ball and the smoke and the incense, that at one point it was marijuana, understand that...
It was setting the mood of the room.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's how you know there is an occult.
How could there not be?
There's another side to everything universally.
joe rogan
That must have been a wild time at church.
Everybody just got contact high.
People walking down the aisles with balls filled with marijuana smoke.
katt williams
Understand, this is not being consistently done.
This is being done.
You know what I mean?
And so there's no such thing as you getting too much of it.
You're not getting enough to do anything except relax.
And relax is what you should be doing as we discuss what we're discussing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll humble you a little.
Calm you down a little.
katt williams
It'll take the edge off.
You're not getting enough to have the munchies.
And if you do, we'll probably have a little something for...
Yeah, I don't know.
But I'm saying all throughout history...
People have been searching for this connection.
And we don't have historically any evidence of any groups of people doing it, doing something for no reason.
joe rogan
Right.
katt williams
There was an element to this.
So when we have the stories of...
We went in this cave and crazy shit was down there.
We now know that a lot of that existed.
The air is not the same down there.
It might have been a poisonous gas in there.
We know that these were things that were not known then.
It's just fascinating to see the stories where we are now and to see how advanced they were on these particular subjects.
And that time weeded out the BS stories really well.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's probably something to all of them.
There's probably something to all stories from all cultures.
There's a reason why they would want to tell them over and over and over again.
katt williams
One of the criteria for it to last over time.
That's what I understood when I broke the internet.
I was trying...
Let me see if you know.
Like, when you start studying quotes and where great quotes come from, you start getting these people that are known for their great quotes, right?
But...
The further you go back, you see who really said it first.
You know what I mean?
And that's what brings it full circle to that emerald tablet I was telling you about, right?
Because 70% of it is something you've heard somewhere else.
joe rogan
Well, I can't wait to read it.
I wasn't even aware of it.
But it totally makes sense.
katt williams
Like, there are things in it that are verbatim to the Bible.
Verbatim to the Quran.
Like, verbatim to...
unidentified
I'm gonna read it.
katt williams
It's a great thing.
joe rogan
Cat Williams, thank you for being here, man.
This was a lot of fun.
katt williams
Thank you for having me, Joe.
joe rogan
Glad I finally met you.
katt williams
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
I appreciate you very much, man.
And we talk well about you all the time.
I think you're one of the best comics of all time.
And, you know, I think you're a fucking animal, man.
You get after it in a way that, like, the energy that you have, I appreciate you very much.
Very much.
katt williams
Likewise.
joe rogan
Thanks for being here.
unidentified
Thank you.
All right.
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