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Joe Rogan Experience #2006 - Brian Simpson
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joe rogan
Simpson, what's happening?
brian simpson
Hell yeah.
What's up, Joe?
Glad to be back.
Can I plug my dates real quick before I forget?
I'm going to be in Denver at Comedy Works on July 13th through the 15th and Levity Live in West Nyack, New York on July 20th through the 22nd.
Get those tickets on bryansimpsoncomedy.com.
unidentified
Nice.
brian simpson
Listen to the podcast, BS with Brian Simpson.
It's pretty good.
joe rogan
It's very good.
You enjoy doing it?
brian simpson
I love it, man.
I love it.
I feel like you need something outside of comedy.
Like when you start doing it for money, you have to do something else so you're not just doing comedy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it also helps your brain just because you're talking about stuff and thinking about stuff.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Because of subjects.
brian simpson
Yeah, and I'm getting better at it, too.
Just having to find your own energy every week or whatever.
I just like having something to do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, it's great.
It's fun.
I think the best tool for comics is the one-person podcast, which you do too.
It's like where one person gets to rant about things.
You have guests on, but sometimes you just rant about things.
brian simpson
Right, yeah.
joe rogan
I think that is where Burr comes up with a lot of his material.
That's where Tim Dillon comes up with a lot of his material.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's an extra superpower.
brian simpson
A lot of mine from regret.
I'll say something...
Because what I do is I have my producer find these articles and I never read them.
And he gives me the gist of it and I just react.
Sometimes I'm like, oh, why did you say that?
When I heard about the submarine people, the first thing I said was, what kind of stupid...
But I forget, I got empathy for the people still.
They're dumb as fuck, but being trapped in a box is one of the worst ways to go.
joe rogan
And they haven't found them yet, but they're hearing banging now?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
I mean, they have 30 hours, less than 30 hours now, just before they run out of air.
brian simpson
Yeah, I think they're dead.
I think they're already gone.
joe rogan
Well, if there's banging, if someone's banging.
jamie vernon
As of Tuesday afternoon, they had 40 to 41 hours.
That was 24 hours ago now.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
As of recording.
joe rogan
So they got like 20 hours.
brian simpson
Yeah, like everybody that's still alive is really sleepy right now.
jamie vernon
Jesus Christ.
5 or 6 a.m.
Thursday, Eastern Standard Time.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Tomorrow morning.
Oh, my God.
Oh my god.
brian simpson
Well, that's if they're all still alive.
jamie vernon
True.
brian simpson
Right?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
I think somebody on there might have made a heroic sacrifice or something.
joe rogan
What does that do for anybody?
brian simpson
It leaves the air for one person to breathe.
joe rogan
Do you think someone killed someone so they have more air?
brian simpson
I think somebody might have killed themselves so everybody else had more air.
joe rogan
How are you going to kill yourself in front of everybody on a little tiny submarine small within this room?
brian simpson
Just have somebody choke you out.
joe rogan
You know how much energy you'd take to choke someone out?
You'd rather just sit still.
brian simpson
One of them down there with they son.
Can you imagine being on there with your child?
You're like, baby, look, daddy showed you how to do...
I showed you how to do the rear naked.
Oh my God.
Finish me off.
Live for the rest of us.
Oh my God.
joe rogan
I don't think that anybody's going to do that.
I think they're just going to assume they're all going to die together.
brian simpson
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
If they die together.
I mean, I don't know.
I have no idea what ability they have to pull that thing up.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Oh, can you imagine what's on the cell phones?
Like these hours now.
They still had hope yesterday, probably.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
But right now, can you imagine?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
Or being the guy that forgot your charger.
joe rogan
Well, the crazy thing is Jamie pointed this out yesterday, and there's lawsuits, apparently.
Did you point it out?
No, you didn't tell me.
Someone told me in the green room.
brian simpson
I did.
joe rogan
It was you?
brian simpson
About the window?
Yeah.
Oh, that was you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Tell people.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Someone yesterday, I read that there was a lawsuit in 2018. A whistleblower was trying to report that the window, the glass wasn't Wasn't rated for that depth?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And they fired him, apparently.
joe rogan
I'll send it to you, Jamie.
Yeah, you sent it to me on Twitter.
Oh, you found it?
Okay.
Oceangate was warned of potential for catastrophic problems with Titanic mission.
January 2018, the company's engineering team was about to hand over the craft.
Named Titan to the crew would be responsible for ensuring the safety of its future passengers.
But the experts inside and outside the company were beginning to sound alarms.
Oceaneet's Director of Marine Operations, David Lockridge, started working on a report around the time, according to court documents, ultimately producing a scathing document to which he said the craft needed more testing and stressed the potential dangers of the passengers of the Titan as the submersible reached extreme depths.
Two months later, Oceangate faced similar dire calls from more than three dozen people.
Industry leaders, deep sea explorers, and oceanographers who warned in a letter to its chief executive, Stockton Rush, that the company's experimental approach and its decision to forego a traditional assessment could lead to potentially catastrophic problems with the Titanic mission.
So, apparently they've done this a hundred times?
brian simpson
Yeah, that's not enough.
Yeah, they've done it a hundred times.
joe rogan
Imagine being number 99 and you hear about this.
brian simpson
Yeah, you know, and I read too this morning, some reporter was on one, he was on the boat Last year, and it got lost for like five hours, the submersible.
And he didn't say anything.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Says, Mr. Lockridge reported learning that the viewport that lets the passengers see outside the craft was only certified to work at depths of up to 1,300 meters.
That is far less than would be necessary for trips to the Titanic, which is nearly 4,000 meters below the ocean surface.
The paying passengers would not be aware and would not be informed of this experimental design, lawyers for Mr. Lockridge wrote in court filings.
The meeting led Ocean Gate to fire Mr. Lockridge.
Wow.
According to court documents filed by both sides, Ocean Gate has said in court records that he was not an engineer, that he refused to accept information for the company's engineering team, and that the acoustic monitoring of the hull strength was better than the kind of testing that Mr. Lockridge felt necessary.
The company sent in its lawsuit that it appeared Mr. Lockridge was trying to be fired.
Mr. Lockridge responded by alleging wrongful termination.
Legal battle ended in a settlement later in 2018. So it seems like it was him but two dozen other people?
The separate warning received the same year from 38 experts in the submersible craft industry.
All of them were members of the Manned Underwater Vehicles Committee of the Marine Technology Society, a 60-year-old industry group that promotes studies and teaches the public about ocean technology.
The experts wrote in their letter to Mr. Rush, Look at this shit.
brian simpson
The letter said that Oceangate's marketing of the Titan had been at minimum misleading because it claimed that the submersible would meet or exceed the safety standards of a risk assessment company known as DNV, even though the company had no plans to have the crab formally certified by the agency.
joe rogan
Oh god, people are gross.
Money.
It's always money.
unidentified
It's always money.
joe rogan
Money and hubris.
brian simpson
Man, it's weird because for some people there's no such thing as enough money.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And I don't understand it.
joe rogan
I don't understand it either.
brian simpson
If I go the rest of my life making the money I'm making right now, I'd be great.
joe rogan
Yeah!
brian simpson
I got enough money!
I got enough money where I don't make decisions based on that.
joe rogan
You know what Brian Callen told me once?
It's a great quote.
He said...
Once you have enough money to go to a restaurant and not worry about what food costs, because everything else is bullshit.
brian simpson
Right.
Yeah, just about that.
joe rogan
You just go to dinner and not think about it.
Not worry.
brian simpson
What was that old saying?
It was like $70,000.
Once you pass $70,000, more money doesn't make you happy.
I mean, that was years ago.
It's probably like $85,000 now.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
But it was like, once you pass that...
Once you're up around there, you can just buy a good meal and not think about it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's like...
I don't make decisions where that's the number one factor, where it's like, oh, you could make $10,000 and do a good job, or you could make $100,000 and betray your two closest friends.
It's like, I think I'll just take the $10,000.
I don't need $90,000.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
But they don't think about the guilt that would come up with the betrayal.
brian simpson
Imagine bringing your son down there.
Imagine the arrogance.
joe rogan
Well, that guy, I think the guy with his son, is that the same guy that flew in Jeff Bezos' rocket ship?
This dude's a risk taker.
brian simpson
I think that's the guy that owns the whole...
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brian simpson
I think he owns the ship, not the submersible company.
joe rogan
Dude, that is so terrifying.
But didn't James Cameron do that?
brian simpson
James Cameron went down there before he filmed Titanic.
joe rogan
I think he went solo.
brian simpson
But he was in control of the craft.
I don't think somebody was in control of it from somewhere else.
joe rogan
See if you have footage of that.
James Cameron's a wild motherfucker.
He's a wild dude.
I mean, just to be him and decide to do that because you're filming the Titanic.
I think he was filming Avatar, right?
jamie vernon
He was filming a documentary.
joe rogan
On the Titanic.
jamie vernon
Yeah, on what it's like to even do it.
Deep Sea Challenge is what it's called.
3D trailer.
Yeah, this is wild.
I think they went to the bottom of the ocean.
How far is that?
There's another video I was pulling up.
Have you seen that, like, it's an animation of how deep the ocean gets?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
And it just shows you how, compared to a bunch of stuff on land, and then how far the minimum depths are, and then the maximum depths.
So he went to the maximum, like Mariana Tretch.
It's more than twice as far down as the Titanic is.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
And now don't they think there's a deeper spot in there?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think they found some other spots they think are deeper.
brian simpson
Challenger Deep?
What am I thinking about that?
jamie vernon
They might have done this live, I think, too.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
Challenger Deep is an area in the Mariana Trench.
joe rogan
Just imagine just relying on all that equipment to continue to work properly.
jamie vernon
But it also looks like they maybe not, whereas this current submarine didn't have any sort of tethering to it.
joe rogan
His did?
jamie vernon
He might have, but I don't know, actually.
brian simpson
You know what's wild to me, though?
jamie vernon
Maybe not.
brian simpson
You know how one of the conspiracies about the moon landing is that they really got Stanley Kubrick to film it?
We have a fucking director here claiming that he went to the bottom of the ocean, and no one suspects that he made it all up.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
brian simpson
Yeah, how we know he fucking really went down there?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
No kidding.
How many people were there?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Who's the witnesses?
All we got is footage of him inside that thing.
brian simpson
Yeah, and that's from the 90s.
It was probably cheaper to fake it.
joe rogan
No, that's new.
That's pretty new.
jamie vernon
I think it's like 2010 or 11. Yeah, it's less than 10 years old.
brian simpson
Oh, so he didn't do that for the Titanic?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
No, I think he did it for Avatar.
Because, you know, Avatar 2, a lot of it is water.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Apparently it's like one of the most expensive movies to film ever.
brian simpson
It was a great movie.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it was great.
jamie vernon
The next three got pushed back.
The last one's coming out now in 2031. Jesus Christ.
And the main girl's like, I'll be like 50. I shot this, the first one, and I was 20-something.
brian simpson
Yeah, but all you're doing is making faces.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, you'll be alright.
joe rogan
But if you get in a role like that, where you have to come back again and again and again, it's a little bit of a velvet prison for a lot of those guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
And I imagine they want to do other stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
But it's also, you want that security.
joe rogan
Well, I think that's why they...
Is that why they killed off...
Batman?
I mean, Iron Man?
In the Avengers?
Was Robert Downey Jr. like, enough already?
jamie vernon
No.
They have a giant, giant, giant story plan that's going on that's way bigger.
They're on Phase 5 now or something wild with that?
joe rogan
They're allowed to do weird shit now because of the multiverse.
They can just go back in time and reset things.
jamie vernon
That happened in DC, brought in the multiverse too.
brian simpson
They've earned so much leeway from the fans.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
A Marvel movie just has to be better than okay.
And people are like...
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Because we know at the end what's going to happen.
Because the people in the comics, they go way harder than they do.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
Like if HBO had bought the rights to Marvel...
It would be some dark shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
In the comics...
Did you watch any of the movies?
The Marvel movies?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've watched a few of them.
Most of them.
brian simpson
In the movies, Thanos' motivation is he wants balance in the universe.
So he wants to find the Infinity Zone so he can snap away half the people so there's more resources for the people left.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
That's a stupid fucking reason.
In the comics...
What happened is from a little kid, Thanos was a freak, like a mutant.
He looked like that.
And people treated him like shit.
And his only friend was Mistress Death.
She would visit him.
Death was her realm.
She was in charge of all dead shit.
And something happened and she fucking hates him.
He's banned from her realm.
Right?
He's in love with her.
He's banned from her.
That's why he can't die.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
And he's trying to impress her by sending her more souls.
So he wants the gauntlet so he can snap her.
Snap it away.
So the movie would have ended in a completely different way.
He ended up having, like, he created a platform for her in a throne so she could watch when he snapped away the rest of the universe.
And all of the fucking Avengers and everybody showed up to fight this motherfucker.
It was a Epic battle and when it happened to his daughter, you know the robot chick that betrayed him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Her punishment was like she was just stuck standing still.
I forget it.
He did something horrible to her.
But she was just stuck like a slave standing still.
And every superhero in the universe is fighting just Thanos.
Trying to get that gauntlet off before he snaps, you know?
And the robot bitch who he...
The last person he saw coming, she used her last bit of willpower and snapped out of it for a second and snatched the glove off.
The comic books went hard, man.
joe rogan
I wonder why they took that plot line away, because that's a great plot line.
He's in love with death.
brian simpson
Bro, there's this dude on YouTube called Comics Explained.
He's the biggest...
I didn't read any of that.
He does these videos where he just walks you through the whole story.
unidentified
Ah.
brian simpson
You know, some of them, four, five, six hours long, he goes through the whole issues and tells you the whole shit so you don't have to...
And I was like, I watch this motherfucker all the time.
He walked me through that whole shit.
I was like, oh, this was way better than the movies.
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting.
brian simpson
Yeah, but I think it would have just taken them longer.
Because they have to make the movies for people that don't read the comics.
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
So they can't always do everything that's in there.
joe rogan
That sounds better, though.
jamie vernon
It's way better, dude.
We're halfway through four now, I think, on here.
Of everything they've made.
joe rogan
And then they have all the stuff that's coming out?
jamie vernon
There's a bunch of stuff on the way, too.
Yeah, there's two new Giant Avengers War movies coming.
brian simpson
No, we're in Phase 5 now.
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, we're here.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy, though?
brian simpson
Oh, Blade?
jamie vernon
There's a Blade coming out later this year.
Daredevil.
I've seen X-Men.
Yeah, there's X-Men supposedly supposed to be coming out.
At some point, they're bringing them back into the fold.
unidentified
Wow.
brian simpson
Oh, Captain America, New World Order?
jamie vernon
They just got the rights to Hulk back, so I'm expecting another Hulk movie to get announced.
joe rogan
But Mark Ruffalo's not going to be the Hulk again, right?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
I think there's going to be a new Hulk.
jamie vernon
Depends if they...
joe rogan
I think Mark Ruffalo's busy being a political activist or something.
jamie vernon
I could take the rights to his face and put somebody else in there.
Oh, God.
We deepfaked Hulk.
brian simpson
He's out there like, Hulk, recycle.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They can kind of do anything with CGI now.
Bruce Willis gave up all the rights.
He sold all the rights to his voice because, you know, he has, I think it's called aphasia.
He's got a serious neurological condition.
Something's really wrong with him.
And so he gave up the rights to AI using deepfakes of him for ads and for a bunch of other things.
He sold that.
brian simpson
Wow.
For how much?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's a good question.
brian simpson
I mean, that's worth it if you can't talk no more.
joe rogan
Well, if you know that it's over and you're never going to work again, you're just trying to stay alive.
I mean, he's just trying to stay alive.
It's bad.
There was a video of him with his family.
I think they were celebrating a birthday, and you could see him struggling.
It's so sad.
jamie vernon
Just for clarity, I just looked up an article.
There's a report that he actually did not sell his rights.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
But it's very confusing.
joe rogan
It says, actor denies selling rights to AI company for digital twin.
But there was also articles that said he did it.
jamie vernon
Right, 100%.
I'm looking up.
It says that he did it, but there's one that's counter to that that says he did not.
And then the quote is something like, the wording about rights is wrong.
Bruce couldn't sell anyone rights.
They are his by default.
joe rogan
Anyone with any rights, they're his by default.
The deepfake companies use artificial intelligence to create realistic simulations of famous figures.
A deepfake of Willis appeared in an advert for a Russian telecoms company last year.
In August 2021, Megafon launched an ad campaign with Bruce Willis and requested us to create a digital twin of the star.
Upon the request, our engineers processed a dataset composed of 34,000 images of Bruce Willis and made his digital twin for this series of Megafon ads.
Oh, interesting.
jamie vernon
James Earl Jones did something similar.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, it makes sense.
Especially if you're an old dude and you're done.
brian simpson
You don't want to act anymore.
joe rogan
Just sell your rights.
brian simpson
I mean, James Earl Jones is going to be making that Star Wars money until he dies.
joe rogan
Right, yeah.
brian simpson
And way after.
If they can just keep using his voice.
joe rogan
Just for his voice.
Isn't that wild?
brian simpson
- Oh man, I'm trying to get that bad. - - - - Yeah, the money you make when you don't have to do anything is, you know, that's freedom right there.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Yeah, just passive income just keeps floating in for you.
brian simpson
I was just talking to somebody else about this.
I think there's people that dream of being rich.
But what they really want, the fantasy is really that they can do whatever they want.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Right?
They really dream of freedom.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
But because we're in a capitalist society, freedom is being rich.
joe rogan
They dream of stuff, too, though.
They dream of stuff.
brian simpson
Oh, what do you mean?
joe rogan
Stuff.
Like, if you don't have stuff, you want stuff.
brian simpson
Oh, right.
Well, that's what I mean.
Being able to buy what you want to buy, being able to do what you want to do.
But then there's, like, the Bezos's of the world, where it's like, for them, it's about dominating.
It's not about the amount of money.
joe rogan
But he seems to have, like, he resigned from the company, right?
He's not the CEO anymore.
Yeah.
And I think he's just balling.
That's what I think he's doing.
He's just banging that super hot girlfriend of his and traveling around the world in the biggest yacht that no one's ever built.
brian simpson
He's doing all that anti-aging shit.
Yeah, he's doing ham.
Who's that one billionaire that I was telling you about?
He takes blood transfusions from his son.
joe rogan
That guy's weird.
brian simpson
Man, but he does look younger.
joe rogan
He looks great.
But, I mean, you probably could look that...
There's guys that look that good that are his age that just work out all the time.
brian simpson
But that's why I don't know...
Because he's doing so many things that I don't know what is he going overboard with.
Like, he takes, like, 40 vitamins in the morning and 40 more in the afternoon.
He always...
He always sleeps at the same exact time no matter what?
joe rogan
That seems tedious.
brian simpson
I know.
It's like, I'd rather just die sooner.
joe rogan
You know, like I was telling you, I had a headache last night because of all the shit that's going on in the club.
Nonsense.
There's nothing bad.
So then I had a hard time going to sleep.
And then I got up in the morning and I was foggy as shit.
Got in the cold plunge.
Like, I know I'm not at optimum today.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I know it.
But, you know, that's life.
That's life.
brian simpson
That is life.
joe rogan
Suck it up, bitch.
Like, is that him and his son?
So he looks to me like a normal, fit 40-year-old guy.
brian simpson
Nah, but show a picture of him from, like, five years ago.
joe rogan
What, did he look bad?
brian simpson
He just didn't.
joe rogan
He looks better?
brian simpson
He looks worse, yeah.
He looks better now.
joe rogan
Well, maybe back then he was working, too.
brian simpson
Oh, see, that's him right there.
See what the...
joe rogan
Is he working still?
brian simpson
Go back.
joe rogan
Oh, that's him?
brian simpson
Right, that's him right there.
joe rogan
Oh.
Well, also, it looks like he lost weight.
He got fitter.
brian simpson
Yeah, he went goth.
joe rogan
Which makes you healthier.
He looks more like a superhero than goth.
What is that strap on his shoulder?
What is he doing?
Is that a bulletproof vest?
Is that guy a superhero?
What is that outfit?
Imagine wearing that outfit.
If you showed up at the mothership with that outfit, everybody would be like, Brian Simpson, what the fuck are you smoking?
brian simpson
Tony might rock that.
joe rogan
Tony would rock that with a big belt buckle.
brian simpson
No, but I bet you it's probably something that lets a certain frequency of light to his nipples that helps him retain vitamin D or some shit.
joe rogan
Right, right.
What is that stupid shirt, man?
That shirt's ridiculous.
Yeah, he's got them zero shoes on.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, he's doing all the face stuff, too.
See, that's another thing that they can do.
They do this face thing.
Oh, Jesus.
What happened to his face?
jamie vernon
I think he's just got cold.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a different guy.
He said I tried.
Yeah.
But what is he doing right there?
It says 45-year-old CEO to the right of that.
Yeah.
So, what is he doing?
Okay, so there's...
Yeah.
There's a thing that they do where they put these micro needles all over your face and then they rub stem cells in your face.
I know a few people that have had that done.
brian simpson
But now imagine the sun doing this from 18. Yeah.
That might be a whole different thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he eats 2,000 calories a day.
brian simpson
But he's vegan.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not good.
That's a lot of vegetables.
But that's interesting that he would choose that route, the vegan route for longevity.
Because there's a lot of nutritional pitfalls in that.
brian simpson
Can you not make up for those?
You can.
Because like you said, he takes like 50, 60 vitamins.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's possible.
It's possible to do.
But the most nutrient-dense foods are red meat.
That's the most nutrient-dense foods.
There's just a lot of weird propaganda.
brian simpson
He might switch it up.
joe rogan
Well, who knows?
I mean, he doesn't look that good there, though.
Show that thing again?
But it's like, for a lot of people on vegan diets, it's hard to put mass on.
I mean, he looks okay.
But he looks like a normal 45-year-old guy that's fit.
brian simpson
And I think that's his dad, too.
See that picture right there in the middle?
joe rogan
Oh.
brian simpson
Him, his son, and his dad all did the transfusion thing.
joe rogan
I'm not sure I like that picture.
Him in the middle.
Like, why were you looking at me like that?
Imagine if you go over to someone's house and the son and the dad and the little kid, they're all posed like this.
Like, come on.
What are you doing?
If I went over your house and you were there with two other dudes, I'd be like, hey man, I'm gonna leave.
brian simpson
We were embracing?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I want you guys to be happy.
jamie vernon
The one on the right's not as bad as the one on the right.
joe rogan
No, the one on the right is normal.
brian simpson
Joe, this is how we stay younger, Joe.
It's cuddle puddles.
joe rogan
It looks like his dad's not listening.
brian simpson
Intergenerational cuddle puddles.
joe rogan
That bell puckle is fucking straining.
brian simpson
Yeah, well, he's definitely holding it in his stomach.
joe rogan
Yeah, on top of that, that guy's not listening.
Isn't it funny?
Like, the son is on this crazy health kick.
The dad looks like he's eating meatball subs.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
Well, I think he was estranged from the dad and the son until, like, recently.
unidentified
Oh.
brian simpson
And they got back together for the transfusion.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
That is so hard for people.
I've met people that, like, their kid won't talk to them.
Like, oh, my God.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's wild.
joe rogan
What happened?
brian simpson
And then I meet the opposite.
Last night at the club, there were two people where it was just a dad out with his son.
Well, one was out with his son and one was out with his daughter.
I was like, that's awesome.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
brian simpson
If you're 50 and your 25-year-old daughter wants to still hang out with you, you did pretty good.
joe rogan
Yes.
No, it's beautiful.
Hanging out with your kids is awesome.
I don't understand.
I mean, all sorts of circumstances.
unidentified
Divorce.
joe rogan
Parents turn one kid against the other parent.
That's horrible.
I've seen that shit happen.
That's like when you date manipulative, vindictive people and they do it to other people and you don't think they're ever going to do it to you.
Guess what?
You're going to be other people if they don't like you anymore.
brian simpson
You know what though?
joe rogan
While sleeping, Johnson is hooked up to a machine that counts the number of nighttime erections.
brian simpson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
This guy's going too hard with data.
He also takes daily measurements of his weight, body mass index, body fat, blood glucose levels, and heart rate variations.
I mean, okay.
brian simpson
Maybe he has a lucky number.
He wakes up, 13!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
13 boners.
How many boners do you think you get in a night?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
What's a good number?
brian simpson
I didn't know you got them at night.
joe rogan
I get them.
Every now and then I go to pee and I gotta do the lean.
brian simpson
But why do you need to measure?
Is there a normal amount?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't want to know that much data.
brian simpson
I don't want to be worried about stuff like that.
joe rogan
There's so much data.
brian simpson
That ain't going to come out with like an apple cock ring that'll measure for you.
unidentified
Five.
joe rogan
Five nocturnal erections during an eight-hour sleep cycle, typically, with each erection lasting about 25 minutes.
That's about one erection every 90 minutes.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Interesting.
But that's weird.
Like, why is he measuring?
I guess just find out what his testosterone levels are, but wouldn't you be able to do that with blood levels?
brian simpson
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, you can go crazy.
Like, when I had that whoop thing, like, if I looked at it, I mean, I still have it, I just haven't been wearing it, but if you look at it and it says you only got, like, 25% recovery, but you feel good, you're like, what the fuck is going on?
How come I feel good?
You know?
But that was actually a sign that a lot of people had COVID. Because they would have an eight-hour sleep and they'd wake up and it'd be like 4% recovery.
Like, what the fuck is going on?
brian simpson
Like the way you were breathing?
joe rogan
It's your body struggling.
Your body's not doing so good, you know?
brian simpson
Yeah, I don't know.
Sometimes I still do the health tracking, but sometimes I want to.
joe rogan
I just listen to my body for the most part.
I mean, I do measure my heart rate and I do wear a heart rate strap when I do some of my workouts, but...
Like yesterday, there's a couple people in my family that are sick right now.
Not bad, but enough, you know, that it's like, they're sick.
And I was working out yesterday, I was like, boy, do I feel like a bitch.
Like, I just wanted to stop.
But I felt strong enough to do it.
So I'm riding this line where I don't want to overstress myself and tax my immune system, but I don't want to pussy out of my workout.
So I've got to feel it along the way while I'm doing it.
It's like I'm going through a dark room and I'm just feeling the walls by hand.
brian simpson
You got more discipline than me.
I would just give in.
joe rogan
Well, I have a particular type of mental illness.
I need to do physical things.
If I don't, my brain doesn't work that good.
It's too confused.
It's riddled with extra energy and data that it doesn't need.
It concentrates on stupid shit.
It's not good for me.
For me, I need exertion.
But when I have exertion, I'm calm and friendly and nice and easy going and I'm compassionate and I think about other people like their problems before I react to things.
But when I'm like amped up, like if I haven't worked out for three days, like I'm not good at decisions, you know, because then I'm you know, you want to say things like shut the fuck up.
But when you say shut the fuck up, nobody hears shut the fuck up.
They get mad at you.
They don't think, oh, I should shut the fuck up.
It's the most ineffective thing to say.
Unless you're really thinking about violence and you're letting someone know, if you don't shut the fuck up, I'm going to put you in the hospital.
Unless it's that.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a warning?
brian simpson
We were talking about respect the other day.
That shit'll save your life in a whole bunch of situations.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, respect people.
brian simpson
If all else fails, just be respectful.
joe rogan
Always.
Always be respectful.
brian simpson
It's wild now because nowadays it's like...
It just seems like a lot of people are comfortable being disrespectful.
joe rogan
It's internet.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's kind of crazy, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What's that internet culture?
That way of communicating becomes a part of your system.
You're used to communicating like that.
There's so many people that are so crazy on Twitter.
The way they talk to people.
I couldn't imagine talking to someone like that to their face just because it's so mean.
It's so shitty.
brian simpson
It's fighting words to some people.
joe rogan
It's also such a pussy move because you know the person's not there.
You're saying mean shit to them to hurt their feelings knowing that they're not there and then you keep checking for replies like a sick fuck.
brian simpson
Because on top of it, it's like everyone sees this.
It's more important for me to get in a good clapback than it is...
Right?
I had an old gym, one of my gym teachers used to like, whenever it got like physical in physical education class, like somebody wanted to fight or whatever, he would let us fight, but he would take you in the closet where we put the mats, and he'd be like, well y'all can fight in here in front of me, but you just can't fight in front of everyone.
And 90% of the time people go in that closet and make up.
Yeah, because it's like, it's the The wanting to save face that makes you not be able to let shit go.
joe rogan
It's also, when you get in that closet, you realize it's real.
You start looking for a way out of this.
brian simpson
And I don't get anything out of it.
No one sees it.
So now, how do I benefit from beating you up?
We gonna both just leave here and tell people what happened?
joe rogan
Right.
No one's gonna see it.
And, you know, it's also, you're about to get your face punched in.
brian simpson
Yeah, but that shit will backfire, though, too.
Always.
Because some people really want to scrap, but you take them in there and it's a problem.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're looking forward to it.
I had Mike Perry on the podcast the other day.
He's a bare-knuckle boxing guy that came over from the UFC. That dude, like, some people pretend to not give a fuck.
That dude doesn't give a fuck.
He doesn't give a fuck.
brian simpson
Better him than me.
Thank God there's people like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's people like that out there and they're so fucking entertaining to watch them fight.
brian simpson
Yeah.
And you know what?
As much as I made fun of it when it first came out, the slap league.
joe rogan
You like it?
brian simpson
I like the highlights.
I haven't watched a full match, but some of the people in there are characters, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
If you're gonna get slapped in the face for a living, it'd probably be a character.
It's designed for those clips.
It's perfect.
brian simpson
I think Dana needs to spring off.
They need to have a separate champ for front hand and back hand slaps.
joe rogan
Ooh, back hand slap.
brian simpson
Yeah, they need a back hand slap champion.
joe rogan
If you backhand slap, you gotta be dressed like a pimp.
You gotta have some fly velvet suit on, something just beautiful and purple.
brian simpson
Instead of a belt, it's just a cape for the champ?
joe rogan
Yeah, a cape.
And a crown, maybe, too.
Big ol' pimp crown.
And a chalice.
brian simpson
Big time.
joe rogan
Remember Pimp's Up, Hose Down?
brian simpson
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
There was a while where like...
brian simpson
They won't air shit like that.
joe rogan
They would never air shit like that today.
It's horrible exploitation.
And they were like celebrating these guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
HBO, listen, we gotta give HBO their flowers.
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
They've made some of the most sensational TV since...
I mean, from the time I was a kid.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
brian simpson
Up to now.
They got some...
They got more...
They probably got...
Their batting average is higher than...
Every other network, for sure.
joe rogan
The Bad and Average is sensational.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So many good shows.
brian simpson
There's more good shows than bad shows on HBO. Just Succession, which just ended.
Yeah, Succession was great.
joe rogan
Fucking great show.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Fucking great show.
joe rogan
And the ending, holy shit.
brian simpson
Man, you know what?
joe rogan
I clapped in my house.
I was like, thank you.
brian simpson
I feel different about the ending every time I think about it.
joe rogan
Well, there's so much there.
You're so conflicted because there's no heroes.
brian simpson
There's no heroes.
They're all fucking losers.
joe rogan
And that's real.
That's the real corporate world.
brian simpson
Think about the fact that at the end of the day, losing was still them all being rich.
unidentified
Billionaires.
brian simpson
Like unbelievably wealthy.
joe rogan
Unbelievably wealthy.
brian simpson
And they were so—because like I told you, people like that, it's not about the amount of money.
They wanted to be CEO. They all did.
And none of them ended up being...
You know the whole Art of War thing where it's like, never go beyond victory.
So when I first watched it, I was like, man, fuck Shiv.
She'd rather be under Tom, who betrayed her, than her brother be in charge.
But then I thought about it.
At the end, it was like, the brother fucked up.
And I don't know if this was intentional, but I like to think it is.
You never go beyond winning.
He had it won.
He had it sold up.
And you stop.
You don't do too much.
And when he was, he wanted to gloat one last time in the room.
And remember, he excluded Shiv again.
He was like, me and my brother Yeah.
Was able to bring it across the line.
That was her one thing.
joe rogan
Yep.
brian simpson
Like, stop excluding me.
I'm smarter than both of y'all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And one last time, and that's when she got up, I was like, I gotta think about it.
joe rogan
Those characters are so perfect.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
It was a perfect cast, for sure.
joe rogan
They're so good.
brian simpson
That show was so well casted.
joe rogan
So well casted.
brian simpson
And what did Cousin Greg end up getting?
Oh, he was just Tom's bitch for the rest of his life.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Forever.
brian simpson
God, that dude's evil.
That dude's evil.
joe rogan
Yeah, both of them are.
Greg's evil, too.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's creepy.
brian simpson
Yeah, and he comes off as like this bumbling kid, but he got sucked into it.
Manipulative, yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he was manipulative from the jump, though.
brian simpson
His granddad tried to talk him out of it.
He was like, just be rich and away from these guys.
unidentified
Whew.
brian simpson
They're not happy.
joe rogan
So crazy.
brian simpson
None of them are happy.
joe rogan
But it's a thing like gambling addicts.
I was talking to my friend Sean about gambling addicts the other day.
Growing up in pool halls, not growing up, but being in pool halls when I was younger, it was my first exposure to real gambling addicts.
And it is a sickness that's different than anything that I ever thought it was.
It is just like crack.
These guys, they want that fucking, they just gotta be in action.
And that's what they call it.
They call it action.
I gotta be in action.
They want to be in action.
Money is just gambling coupons.
brian simpson
Yeah, they love the risk of it.
It's not the winnings or the losings.
joe rogan
It's the fucking adrenaline rush and you're watching the game.
Did you see Uncut Gems?
brian simpson
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Uncut Gems.
brian simpson
Once.
joe rogan
It's fucking great.
brian simpson
I can't watch it again.
joe rogan
It's so anxiety.
I knew people like that.
I knew people like that.
b-real
I knew people that blew everything.
joe rogan
Blew everything.
I watched people blow tons of money.
I've seen it.
In pool halls, man, it's like everyone's a junkie.
They're all junkies.
You got your players who are like, they're addicted to playing, and they're also addicted to winning, and they're addicted to making scores.
But then you got the line people, the people that aren't even, they're not playing.
They're fucking betting on the side.
Those are the big bets.
That's the big money.
Sometimes people are playing for $25,000, but there's $500,000 in the room.
These are like big money games in the Philippines, big money games when some guy will come over from Europe and match up with somebody.
They'll have these three-day tournaments where they're playing for $100,000, but there's so much betting on the side.
brian simpson
I wonder if they just sit down and do the math and realize you lose way more than you win.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's the fucking action.
You think you win sometimes, you're going to keep winning.
You're going to win again.
I'm going to get them back.
I mean, that was Uncut Gems.
It was always like chasing after that money.
That's what they all do, man.
It's wild to watch because it was so scary to me.
I was nervous about gambling on pool.
Like, I would only gamble a certain amount.
brian simpson
You think it's easy to have a friend with a gambling problem or a drinking problem?
joe rogan
Whew.
I know a lot of good people that have kicked drinking.
I know a lot of really good people that had drinking problems and now they're awesome.
Like, look at Dave Attell.
He had a drinking problem and he kicked it and became...
He was already one of the best comics alive when he was a drinking guy and then quit and got even better!
I mean, and he's amazing.
He's amazing to be around.
He's a beautiful person.
Everyone loves David Tell.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
So it's like, that's a guy that had a drinking problem.
I know a bunch of people that have had drinking problems.
Drinking problems, to me, it seems like it's more relatable.
You want to escape.
And it's usually some pain that you're dealing with in your life.
Some childhood shit or some failure shit.
brian simpson
Something you're avoiding.
joe rogan
Yeah, or it's a genetic thing.
Some people, they just have a genetic propensity to alcoholism.
It just runs through their whole family.
brian simpson
Dude, I just heard a friend of mine told me about a guy the other day where he has a drinking problem, but he also is an alcoholic.
I'm sorry.
He's an alcoholic, but he's also allergic to alcohol.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
So he would literally drink himself into the hospital like once a week.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
And I was like, right there, that's bad right there.
You gotta recognize that shit is like your arch nemesis.
joe rogan
But there's a thing about addictions where it's like even if you know it's bad for you, you keep getting pulled into it.
brian simpson
It's hard to explain that to somebody that's never been addicted to anything.
Or at least they think they haven't.
But, you know.
joe rogan
Dude, I was getting addicted to those nicotine vapes.
But not even physically addictive.
This is what's crazy.
I could put it away and not use it for a week.
Like, I'd go on vacation.
I wouldn't bring one with me.
But then when I got one back, I just wanted to suck on it.
And here's the thing.
brian simpson
Somebody's going to turn that into a me.
unidentified
I just wanted to suck on it.
Suck it, suck it, suck it.
joe rogan
Oh, there's so many horrible things you said.
Me and Ari the other day had a conversation about docking.
You know when dudes take their foreskin and put it over another dude's dick?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And we were like, we were arguing over who's winning.
You know?
And he's like, I'm sucking your dick.
I'm like, no, no, no, I'm fucking your mouth.
It was like, this is stupid.
Stupid, but I was like, my God.
brian simpson
Why do I always get in conversations like that around Ari?
joe rogan
Oh, he's a maniac.
He's going to be there tonight.
brian simpson
Oh, dope, dope.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't wait to see him.
Adrian is there tomorrow.
brian simpson
Pellucci?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love her.
brian simpson
Yeah, she's funny as shit.
joe rogan
She's funny as shit.
She's on the rise.
You know, she's like a new kind of interesting talent.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fascinating person.
Super fucking smart.
brian simpson
She go hard, too.
joe rogan
She goes hard.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
She goes hard on stage.
brian simpson
Yeah, but I've never met her personally.
She gonna be there tonight?
joe rogan
Yeah, sweetheart.
I don't know if she's here tonight.
She'll be here tomorrow.
She might come in tonight.
But yeah, I got to meet her during the Moondower.
She came by.
brian simpson
The mothership is so dumb.
How about Bottom of the Barrel?
See, I didn't talk about Bottom of the Barrel at the beginning of the show.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
But it's so much fucking fun.
joe rogan
I look forward to it so much.
I was bummed out that I didn't get on stage the second one.
You never know, man.
You never know.
I've had two premises that I've gotten out of Bottom of the Barrel that became actual bits.
brian simpson
Yeah, every night it's And it's a different show every night.
joe rogan
It's so fun.
It's so silly.
brian simpson
Yeah.
And the crowds, now we're starting to get to the point where regular people are coming back and back and back.
joe rogan
Yeah, they come back.
It's always different.
And some of the suggestions are hilarious.
brian simpson
Yeah, I give out prizes if I get a real good one.
joe rogan
The fly gun.
brian simpson
It's a gun called Bug Assault.
They sponsor our show and they give us...
And the thing is, this is one of those places where they didn't offer to sponsor.
I... I got one, and I was like, everyone should have one of these.
Like, I would be their spokesperson if they paid me.
Because, I don't know if I've ever told you this, but I have a real, my relationship with flies, When I was deployed, my first deployment to Iraq, it was when we didn't have shit going on.
We just came over the border.
And we was camping in this town called Anumanaya.
And it had the most fertile soil I've ever seen.
It just looked nutrient.
I could be wrong.
But we would dig holes to shit in every day.
We didn't have any porta-potties.
And whoever got in trouble would have to bury the holes.
But anyway...
These were the biggest, most numerous flies that I've ever seen in my life.
I learned that they hibernate.
Did you know that?
That's probably not the scientific term.
But they sleep at night.
To the point where I would wake up, the tarp we had, it would be completely covered in flies.
Like millions of flies.
And you could scrape them off.
They wouldn't move.
They wouldn't wake up.
You could just...
unidentified
Wow.
brian simpson
And we did it every morning.
We killed them all.
And every morning it was full again.
It was that many flies.
joe rogan
Imagine if you didn't kill them.
brian simpson
Yeah.
And there were so many flies and they were starving.
Any chance hit moisture.
So we would eat these MREs, you know?
You haven't had an MRE? So you know how everybody eats it out of the bag it comes in, right?
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
And so when you open that bag, you had about three seconds to get the food in your mouth.
Because it's like they would sense the moisture.
And even if you got the bad closing time, they would pop, pop, pop.
Just anything.
If you cried, they were on your tears.
They were just starving.
That's why I don't eat outside.
If it's too many women in the group, they always want to eat outside.
I'm good.
I'm not going to come because I already know the cutest girl is going to go, we should get outside.
And I'm going to be pissed the first time a fly lands on my food.
I hate this bitch.
You wanted to do this.
And so...
When I discovered a gun that could kill these motherfuckers.
Yeah!
joe rogan
Did you know my wife took mine away?
brian simpson
Really?
joe rogan
She's like, the whole fucking house is going to be covered with salt.
You're going to leave the doors open just so you can kill more flies.
brian simpson
Did I give you the pistol or the rifle?
joe rogan
You gave me a rifle.
brian simpson
Oh, Joe.
No, no, no.
joe rogan
The pistol?
brian simpson
We've got to upgrade you tonight.
joe rogan
The pistol's different.
Oh, good, because I told you she took the rifle.
You might have to hide the pistol.
brian simpson
The rifle's cool.
The rifle comes with an infrared sight.
Ooh.
Right?
And it's pretty cool.
It's accurate within, I think, four feet.
But you pump it.
unidentified
Right?
brian simpson
And that's cool.
That'll knock a fly out of the sky.
But the pistol's called the shredder.
Now, the shredder, okay, It comes with a CO2 cartridge.
And it's a revolver.
So it literally has little revolver things.
you rub it in salt, load it up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Bug of salt shredder.
brian simpson
And you can get a little holster for it.
And bro, when I tell you, because now that thing, it'll rip a fly to pieces.
You hit a fly with that motherfucker and it's dead.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about.
brian simpson
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
I need one of these.
brian simpson
Yeah.
No, I got you.
We have them at the club.
joe rogan
I get fucked up by mosquitoes in my yard.
Because, you know, I'm out there doing archery.
And I'll do it during the day with shorts on because it's 95 fucking degrees out there.
And I'm out there for two hours.
And I come inside and my ankles are just brutalized.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Well, they call them no-see-ums.
jamie vernon
This is made for cockroaches.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
Except for big bucks.
joe rogan
Bro, it just blows him away.
brian simpson
Bang!
joe rogan
Let me see.
Boom!
Are you shooting salt into your fucking food?
jamie vernon
Well, if it's popcorn, it's fine.
joe rogan
This is just such a setup.
Oh, that guy got fucked up.
brian simpson
Yeah, bro.
joe rogan
Boom, son!
brian simpson
I mean, what did they do for this commercial?
joe rogan
They let those roaches on that stuff.
They probably had them in a bucket.
They just dumped them on the table.
brian simpson
I'm telling you, it's so satisfying.
America, man, I'm giving these guys free game right now.
But I'm telling you, there's no more satisfying feeling.
Then shooting one of the motherfuckers out the sky or shooting it off or something.
If you live in Texas, every time you open your door, something flies in your house.
That's just part of living out here.
Every single day something flying is in my house.
And every single day I kill that motherfucker and it feels so good.
I have two of those.
I have one upstairs and one downstairs.
So no matter where I am, I don't gotta leave the floor.
I go right away and I talk shit the whole time.
I'm like, oh, you think shit's sweet up in here?
No, no, no.
Anyway.
joe rogan
We got a fire ant problem, too.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Those little motherfuckers.
Woof.
brian simpson
Man.
joe rogan
It's very impressive, the mounds that they make.
Those guys go ham.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Texas is well out with the bugs.
I feel like every kind of bug in the world is here.
joe rogan
Bugs, snakes.
I got a booklet that they sell at the supermarket of the snakes from Central Texas, like what's dangerous and what's not.
brian simpson
That's here in Austin?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
My friend called me.
She goes, what is this?
And she sent me photos or videos of two big-ass coral snakes in her garage.
And I'm like, those are real bad.
Get those fucking things out of there.
brian simpson
That'll kill you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, a coral snake can kill you.
Yeah.
brian simpson
They usually aren't trying to fuck with you, though.
joe rogan
No.
No, they don't.
The problem is sometimes you don't know they're there.
brian simpson
Right.
joe rogan
And so you're stepping and you step too close to them and they bite you.
brian simpson
And it's a wrap.
joe rogan
Especially if you're not looking.
You know, you just wander through the woods.
God, it's so beautiful out here.
brian simpson
Especially if you don't know what bit you.
That's a whole other thing.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
And you don't get to a hospital.
brian simpson
Yeah, you got to get to the hospital with the thing that killed you.
You got to know what it was.
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
You know?
joe rogan
I'm sure hospitals out here probably carry antivenom.
My dogs got bit a ton of times by rattlesnakes.
brian simpson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, my pit bulls.
Back when I used to have pit bulls, anything in that yard was dead.
brian simpson
You know, I saw a video the other day, this might not be true, but who knows what you learn off the internet, but cats are like quicker than snakes.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they're way quicker.
brian simpson
Their reflexes are way harder than snakes.
joe rogan
There's a great video of a snake trying to bite a kitten, like a young cat, and the cat's like, WAP! Shut the fuck up with that.
brian simpson
The cat will hit you two times.
You're my favorite.
unidentified
Listen.
brian simpson
After you do comedy for so long, it's the real silly shit that gets at you.
It's not like the intricate shit.
It's like the silly shit that makes me laugh.
Tony Baker doing voiceovers of cat videos.
You know Tony Baker?
joe rogan
The comedian?
brian simpson
Yeah.
He's one of the funniest motherfuckers alive.
And he does these voiceovers of animal videos.
And when it's a cat thing...
So he has all these different phrases, but when a cat hits somebody, he calls it a skibbity-pap.
And he'll...
You gotta find one of these jokes.
Like, it's one of these...
Help me, brother.
unidentified
Help you.
brian simpson
That's not...
Is this Tony Baker?
joe rogan
I'll live the king.
Bro, cats fighting on roofs is crazy.
They die sometimes.
Those little motherfuckers can fall really far, though.
brian simpson
I mean, my cat goes outside.
I worry about her all the time, but she's a savvy one, man.
joe rogan
You've always let your cat go out.
brian simpson
Yeah.
When I got her, she was like an outdoor cat.
joe rogan
Oh.
Yeah, they don't take kindly to being stuck indoors, those outdoor cats.
brian simpson
Nah.
joe rogan
They'll start pissing on you.
brian simpson
Right here right now, I don't like what's happening right here.
unidentified
I don't like how you're holding my arm and licking my chest.
I don't like what's happening right here.
I'll rip your paw pads loose and put them in a nice little broth and let that simmer while I see all your cats fur to the highest bidder and all your goddamn catnip, you understand me?
But hey, to each his own.
You know what I'm saying?
brian simpson
Whatever you're into.
joe rogan
It's so funny.
You see a Labrador growling.
Like, bitch, you're so faking it.
Oh, yeah.
They're the nicest dogs in the world.
brian simpson
And most of those families that have cats and dogs, the cat is ruling the rules.
joe rogan
Yeah, they smack the dog right in the fucking face.
Did you ever see the video of the girls talking about her pronouns and the cat turns and smacks her in the face?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
So there's a girl, like, holding her cat and she's being serious about her pronouns and this cat turns around and goes, Shut the fuck up.
unidentified
And she's like, oh.
Hi, my name is Erin.
I use she, her pronouns and I am this and you know what, dude?
brian simpson
It was probably her fault.
My cat only acts up.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
That cat was like, shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
No warning.
Just shut the fuck up.
brian simpson
You should have fed him.
My cat only acts up when I'm wrong.
She's never wrong.
You know, something's always wrong.
If she acting up, it's either something's wrong health-wise, or I'm late feeding her, or her litter box is dirty, like something.
It's always something I didn't do.
She never just starts acting a certain way.
So then she probably was fucking something up.
joe rogan
Well, she's annoying.
Wash the water bowl, bitch.
If you're annoying about that, you're probably annoying about other stuff.
brian simpson
The cat was like, she need to change my fucking water bowl.
joe rogan
The litter box thing is rough.
If you don't change litter boxes all the time, people go to their house and it smells like piss.
All factory senses are interesting in that they detect change.
They don't detect static smell.
So you get used to being...
If you live in a town that has a slaughterhouse...
You get used to that.
If you live in a town that's got, like, a lot of agricultural chemicals around, that terrible smell...
Like, my parents used to live in Pennsylvania, and I used to drive to visit them through Jersey.
And when you're going through Pennsylvania, going to where they lived, there was a lot of, like, agriculture.
And the smell was so bad.
You roll down the window, you're like, what the fuck?
These people live with that every day, but they don't notice it after a while.
brian simpson
Right, right.
joe rogan
So, like, that's the thing with people's houses, when you go over there and they have a box of piss.
Like, hey, you gotta get rid of this.
Like, you have a box of piss in your house.
brian simpson
Plus, man, the technology is so high now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, my cat.
joe rogan
Oh, they have those things that...
brian simpson
Yeah, they got the automatic joints.
It's like, it don't make sense.
It's a little drawer.
Just put the drawer, change it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, but then, if you got an outdoor cat, like, you know, she shits outside somewhere.
I have no idea where she shits.
unidentified
Pfft!
brian simpson
I have no idea where she shits at.
And I don't clean it up.
I think they bury it a little.
joe rogan
Do your roommates take care of her when you go out of town?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
No?
brian simpson
I mean, I'm sure they watch out for her, but not anymore.
The only time...
joe rogan
They leave food out for her?
brian simpson
No, I'll have Sam.
You know Sam?
Their ex-fiancee, Sam?
Yeah.
She runs bottom of the barrel with me.
I would rather her do it.
Men don't.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Right.
unidentified
Exactly.
brian simpson
Because they'll take care of her, but they won't do what I would do.
She'd do what I would do.
Right.
But only if I'm going for more than a few days.
If I'm doing like four days somewhere, then I'll just have her go check on her a little bit.
joe rogan
If you have a cat and you come back home after a couple days, the cat's like, oh, look, you're back.
brian simpson
No.
No, this bitch don't like it.
joe rogan
She gets mad at you?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian simpson
Really?
She's always upset, yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
What does she do?
Does she meow at you?
brian simpson
She got like abandonment issues.
So she always, whenever I leave for more than a day, she thinks I'm going to leave her.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I've had strays, stray dogs that were like that.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so sad.
brian simpson
But man, the bitch, fine.
She got two fountains.
She got a dad home.
joe rogan
She just doesn't know.
brian simpson
Yeah.
She doesn't need a lot.
Her food, the bowl is automatic.
The water fountains are automatic.
She got two of those.
The litter box is automatic.
joe rogan
That food can't be good, that dry-ass bullshit food.
brian simpson
No, no.
I mean, I feed her wet food when I'm home.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
But, like I said, I couldn't trust anybody else to do it.
joe rogan
I wonder if cats get mercury poisoning from, like, eating tuna and shit like that.
brian simpson
I think they, uh...
joe rogan
Is that an issue with cats?
brian simpson
I think their kidneys are pretty fucking strong.
joe rogan
Yeah, but, I mean, mercury is...
It's a heavy metal poison.
I don't think it's good for any animal.
brian simpson
And they're not giving them sushi grade fish.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of those, that's true, but a lot of those tuna, they're riddled with it because the big fish are the ones that are eating the most little fish and a lot of the little fish are the ones that have the heavy metal poison.
jamie vernon
They can get it.
joe rogan
Oh, they can.
Look at this.
Animals do not show signs until several weeks after being poisoned by organic mercury.
Signs can include blindness, excitement, abnormal behavior, and chewing, lack of coordination, and convulsions.
Cats show hind leg rigidity, lack of coordination, and tremors.
Neurologic signs may be irreversible.
Oh, no.
So it's not common to cats, but it may be the first thing a veterinarian suspects.
So it's possible that mercury poisoning happens, but is not diagnosed.
Oh, it may not be the first thing a veterinarian suspects.
Oh, wow.
I had a dog once, a puppy that I got.
And it had distemper.
And you can't fix that in a puppy.
brian simpson
What is distemper?
joe rogan
Distemper is horrible.
Is it parvo or distemper?
Are they the same thing?
It's a horrible virus that puppies get.
And he would just go into these terrible convulsions, like these seizures.
It was so sad.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He's the cutest little guy, and there's nothing they can do about it.
There's nothing they can do about it.
At the time, at least.
It was 20 plus years.
brian simpson
Watching something cute die is difficult.
joe rogan
Oh, it was so horrible.
He was so adorable.
He was such a little sweetie.
It's not the same thing.
So, just temper and parvo are not the same disease, but both are highly contagious viral diseases that could cause serious symptoms and even death, especially for unvaccinated puppies and adult dogs.
Yeah.
brian simpson
Does temporary hepatitis pair influence?
joe rogan
I got him from the pound and you know he's a rescue puppy and you know and sometimes when you know they're around who knows where they are before the pound gets them and he was already infected.
So sad.
He's such a cute little guy.
brian simpson
Why'd you take him home if he was already going to die?
joe rogan
I didn't know.
I didn't know until after I had him.
He started showing symptoms a while after we got him.
He was real young, too.
It was awful.
brian simpson
Oh, that's tough.
unidentified
He was so cute.
brian simpson
I haven't lost my pet yet.
I mean, I've had animals down me, but they were never mine.
I don't know what I'll do if something happened to this.
joe rogan
I saw a dead deer on the side of the highway.
I got sad.
This is a deer out here dropping their fawns.
So you got these cute little baby deer that are running around.
And when we were walking the other day, and the mother deer ran away and left the fawn, and the fawn just lies down on the ground because they're so small they can't run yet.
And so the mother tries to distract you by running away so that you chase her, and hopefully the fawn kind of blends into the grass.
brian simpson
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They don't have any defense mechanisms.
They're too small.
So for the first, I don't know how many days, they really can't run away.
Now they can kind of run away.
Like now I see the same little baby deer, and now they're running around.
brian simpson
Wow.
joe rogan
But it's like they're so vulnerable.
brian simpson
That's a bad plan for mother deers.
joe rogan
Well, it's a plan that ensures that there's going to be less deer because you can't have too many deer.
It can't be perfect where they come out running full split.
Coyotes would never get them.
brian simpson
Well, that's more planning than those submarine people.
That shit pisses me off the more I think about it.
joe rogan
It scares the shit out of me.
It just seems like a horrific way to die.
brian simpson
How you don't have a plan B? See, you know what's so strange about that whole situation to me?
I was telling Jamie earlier.
Is that they have what?
They started out with like four days worth of air, Jamie?
Yeah.
So someone thought if something goes wrong, they're going to need extra oxygen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Right?
Because the trip was less than a day.
But they have four days worth of air.
So someone was thinking about what they might need in an emergency.
And they stopped right there.
They gave them extra air and then no other way to get out of a bad situation.
Like they can't control it from inside of it.
There's no emergency surface button.
There's no transponder.
joe rogan
They don't control it from inside of it?
brian simpson
No, it's controlled from the ship.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
brian simpson
Oh my God.
And the ship gotta be directly above it.
joe rogan
Oh, no!
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
brian simpson
And if that doesn't happen, if somehow they lose contact with the ship, the ship is not directly above it, that's it.
There's no plan B. What?
Yeah.
joe rogan
So is there a tide that moved them away from under the ship?
What the fuck happened?
brian simpson
I have no idea.
Maybe somebody crashed.
Maybe that window failed at a certain depth.
That's what I think happened.
I think the thing failed.
I think they're dead.
I think it imploded on them.
joe rogan
Why do you think that?
brian simpson
Because it seems like...
unidentified
What do you think the banging is?
brian simpson
I think the banging is just, it's banging up against something, or maybe the banging is something else.
Maybe it's the ship shaking.
You know, they've never measured the sounds around that area.
It's not like they can say that that banging is outside the norm.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian simpson
Yeah, I mean, the Titanic's down there.
It's probably still creaking and swinging, and who knows what that banging is.
And I could be wrong, that could be them banging.
Seems like a waste of energy.
Nobody's going to hear you.
joe rogan
But if someone is hearing them...
brian simpson
Oh, like they're thinking, oh, the sonar will hear them.
Well, I guess that's what it's for.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think they've heard it through a plane.
Is that true?
Yeah.
So there's a plane that detected the bang.
jamie vernon
But it's still unconfirmed.
From what I was just reading.
Someone's claiming they heard that.
brian simpson
But at this point, we know there's no hope of saving them.
Even if they're alive, like right now...
joe rogan
How do they get them out?
brian simpson
How do they get them out?
joe rogan
Do they have another one of those things?
brian simpson
Even if they were on the surface right now, like if they had risen to the surface somehow, there is an emergency.
They still can't breathe.
They can't open it.
They can't open it from the inside.
So they have to find them to save them.
And even if they found them right now, they got to bring them to the surface slowly.
You know, they can't bring them up too fast.
So who even fucking knows, man?
joe rogan
How long does it take to get them to the surface?
brian simpson
You know, I don't know.
But it's longer than you'd be comfortable with.
So I think it's not about how much air they have left, right?
It's about do they have enough hours of air left that it would take them to braze them to the surface?
And open that hatch.
joe rogan
How do they even plant?
See if there's like some sort of a detailed strategy.
A retrieval.
jamie vernon
Oh, I'm looking.
joe rogan
How could they possibly get it out?
jamie vernon
What I've found so far is that during...
They spoke with somebody else.
One of the writers for The Simpsons or creators for The Simpsons or something took this tour last year.
And they had problems on their trip.
Three times, or it says, communication was lost during all three of his dives, including that to the Titanic.
It's like when they were trying to do it for TV, they couldn't even find the Titanic or something.
The boat has to be near the sub so communication can happen, and if they are not near each other, communication is just gone.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
jamie vernon
GPS doesn't work underwater, nor does radio.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And they don't have a line attached to it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's like some...
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
In theory, which is probably not correct, it could have resurfaced at some point, and it's just floating somewhere, and it can't get out, you know?
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
This says there's seven different...
Not backups, but there are seven different possibilities for it to resurface, and they're like, well, if none of those happened, the other possibilities are that there was a leak, in which case there's no backup vessel...
You're kind of fucked.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
Yeah, any kind of leak, any kind of opening at that depth is gonna kill everybody.
joe rogan
It's so scary.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's such a scary, cause it's so slow.
Like getting down there so slow and knowing that all that water is above you.
Miles!
brian simpson
Yeah, just a column of water sitting on top of you.
jamie vernon
Two miles down, basically.
brian simpson
Oh, Jesus!
And then imagine you sitting there thinking about the one motherfucker that was trying to tell you that window wasn't good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Right.
The guy who's sweating it, the CEO, who has the information.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Because if we got to kill somebody to save Aaron, we kill him first.
I'm talking a group into it.
Hey, man.
You know what?
You had a good run.
joe rogan
Boy, everybody involved in that company is fucked.
brian simpson
Somebody gonna pay for that.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
One of the guys was a billionaire.
brian simpson
Well, it depends on which political party makes it their issue.
If the Republicans make it their issue, somebody gonna pay for that.
joe rogan
What is happening with that Sam Bankman Freed guy?
I heard they dropped five of his charges.
Which is wild.
brian simpson
I wonder how that happens.
joe rogan
Which is wild.
They just quietly did that while they're telling us about aliens.
brian simpson
Yeah, man.
This is the death of truth.
This is the age where you can't tell what's true, you can't tell who's who, who's being bribed, who's not, who has an agenda.
So now, people are going based off It's like what you're likely to believe is whatever you want to be true.
joe rogan
Did you see that James O'Keefe left Project Veritas?
He's the guy that does all those gotcha videos, investigative reporter videos.
brian simpson
No, I don't know.
joe rogan
Undercover videos.
He got a lot of them.
I don't know what led him to leave Project Veritas, but he started his own group.
And his own group yesterday, he got some guy...
From this corporation talking about how easy it is to bribe politicians.
So he's on a date.
brian simpson
Oh yeah, you sent me this Instagram thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
It's wild.
Damn.
He's like, you know, you can get a senator for like 10 grand.
brian simpson
Does he know he's being recorded?
It doesn't look like he does.
joe rogan
No, he's on a date.
jamie vernon
At some point he says that, he's like, you might be an undercover reporter, but then he still keeps telling the girls.
joe rogan
Yeah, because he's trying to be funny.
Find that.
I think he's trying to impress a girl.
But that's what it always is.
Like, a lot of them are these chatty gay guys, and they get some cute gay guy to go on dates with them.
brian simpson
Yeah, but there's one part of the video where he's, like, at a job fair or something.
He's just talking.
joe rogan
Yeah, so this is it.
Play it.
jamie vernon
Oh, I mean, oh.
unidentified
Okay.
I don't know, but I suspect it's probably because it's easier to do things when people aren't thinking about it.
All of these financial institutions, they buy politicians.
You can take this big f*** ton of money, and then you can start to buy people.
jamie vernon
I work for a company called BlackRock.
unidentified
Meet Serge Varley, a recruiter at BlackRock.
Let me tell you, it's not who's the president is.
joe rogan
It's who's controlling the wallet of the president.
And who's that?
The hedge funds, BlackRock, the banks.
These guys run the world.
Also, what a fucking- Campaign financing.
Yup, you can buy your candidates.
Look at this.
Obviously, we have the system in place.
jamie vernon
First, there's the Senate.
unidentified
This guy's fucking shit.
brian simpson
You got 10 grand, you can buy a Senate.
joe rogan
You got 10 grand, you can buy a senator.
500 grand.
unidentified
Does, like, everybody do that?
Does BlackRock do that?
joe rogan
Everyone does what he's saying.
Doesn't matter who wins.
unidentified
They're in my pocket at this point.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian simpson
What a loser.
joe rogan
Well, these people always, it's always single people on dates.
brian simpson
But who talks like this on a first date?
joe rogan
Guys do if they want to impress a girl.
The guys do if they want to let a girl know, like, hey, they're a fucking big mover shaker in this corporation, and this is how we do it.
We run the world.
We run the world.
brian simpson
Government secrets don't impress women, do they?
joe rogan
Well, that's not really government secrets.
It's corporate secrets.
It's them using their influence and money to affect the political system.
But it's, you know, it's power.
And, you know, when a guy can talk about how much power he has to a girl on a date...
It's probably very intoxicating.
Let her know.
I'm running shit, baby.
brian simpson
You're like, hey girl, I have several moral failings, but I'm successful.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
I googled his name.
joe rogan
Yep.
jamie vernon
And when you click this, they removed it.
joe rogan
They removed it.
Yeah, of course they removed it.
jamie vernon
I also don't know when I got added.
joe rogan
Yeah, but of course they removed it.
They always do that when someone gets busted.
brian simpson
He definitely don't work for Black Rock no more.
joe rogan
Oh, he's in trouble.
brian simpson
Yeah, he's probably dead.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's probably at the Clinton's ranch.
Swinging from a tree.
The shotgun wound in his asshole.
Yeah.
He killed himself by shooting himself in the asshole.
Yeah, it's not good for him.
But they'll just disavow him, and none of the major media networks will cover that.
That's where it gets interesting.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because when something like this happens, whether it's a pharmaceutical company, he's done that with a lot of those people, like Pfizer, he got this guy talking about engineering viruses, and it never makes the news.
brian simpson
I'm going to try that on my next date.
Hey, girl, I've grabbed several public officials.
Let's go back to my place.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it's, you know, she's also asking the right questions, like saying that she's curious.
So he gets to show how much he knows, you know?
brian simpson
Imagine you having a good date and this girl just destroys you.
joe rogan
Just destroys you.
Puts you on a hit list somewhere.
brian simpson
She probably didn't even fuck him.
joe rogan
No, she didn't fuck him.
brian simpson
I know.
joe rogan
That's the whole thing.
brian simpson
She got free dinner, a hot scoop, and then destroyed your ass.
joe rogan
You get a couple of cocktails in someone like that, you know?
And they don't think about what they're saying.
Next thing you know, you're giving up some serious global details.
brian simpson
But then won't that always be...
I mean, that pretty much gives Black Rock a way out.
It's like, oh, he was just trying to get laid.
He don't know what he's talking about.
joe rogan
For sure.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He could totally be full of shit.
I mean, that's literally what one of the guys said that they busted.
He goes, I'm an actual liar.
He goes, I'm on a date.
I'm trying to impress my date.
I'm lying.
brian simpson
Oh, right.
joe rogan
The guy said that, like, on the spot.
And maybe he was telling the truth.
You know, people definitely lie on dates and pretend they know more than they know.
brian simpson
If she recorded him being like, yeah, I have a 12-inch dick, people wouldn't be like, well, that must be true.
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
He said it on tape.
joe rogan
True, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, but it seems like what he was saying is based on personal experience.
brian simpson
But we already knew that was true.
jamie vernon
He said he was a recruiter, so he's never done any of that stuff.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
Also, if it only costs $10,000 to buy a senator, I feel like...
We should own them all.
You could own them all.
Yeah, at least for one election cycle.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder how that works with political donations.
That's what Trump always said.
He donated to people to make things happen.
He donated to people for this.
He went to their weddings.
brian simpson
Yeah, he donates to their charity where they also happen to be an employee.
joe rogan
Didn't he say he paid Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton to be at his wedding?
brian simpson
Oh, that's funny.
joe rogan
I think it was either his wedding or one of his kids' weddings.
I think you can pay people and they'll do an appearance.
Isn't that wild?
brian simpson
That sounds like torture.
joe rogan
How wild is that, though?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Give me $250,000, I'll show up at your wedding.
brian simpson
I mean, just to be there, that might be worth the trip.
joe rogan
I think they're doing that all the time, so it adds up.
brian simpson
You know, Donald Trump, he probably didn't have their meals covered.
He's like, well, I'll just, I'll pay you to come, then you do read the contract.
joe rogan
It's not an open bar.
brian simpson
Right.
It's a bar that has money.
joe rogan
It's expensive.
What is, um, what was the story with that?
Is that legit?
Did he say that?
jamie vernon
He said that.
joe rogan
What'd he say?
jamie vernon
I was trying to find the video of it, but it's not coming up.
But their quote is written here.
It says, if you're to believe him.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what.
With Hillary Clinton, I said, be at my wedding, and she came to my wedding, Trump applied.
You know why?
She had no choice, because I gave.
He added that he gave money to the Clinton Global Foundation without understanding how his funds would be used.
I didn't know the money would be used on private jets going all over the world, he said.
It was.
Clinton had a front row seat at Donald Trump's wedding, his third wedding, in 2005. The Clinton team didn't immediately respond to a request for comment on whether the Clintons only attended Trump's wedding because he contributed to her Senate campaign.
brian simpson
Well, they're all in cahoots.
joe rogan
Just give them some money.
Give some money.
And then they use it on private jets.
brian simpson
Don't do anything for money.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy, though?
They could just use it on private jets.
They just got like a private jet slush fund.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
I'm not surprised at all.
Like, that's why I don't feel bad for people.
Like, once you hit a certain amount of money...
The system is set up for you to never go broke again.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
If you use it correctly, and they use it to the most.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, they make the loophole.
So they use every single loophole to benefit them to make sure they will never go broke and their kids will never go broke.
joe rogan
Especially bankers.
I mean, when banks fail, the government bails them out.
brian simpson
Yeah.
It's set up so, what do they call it?
Private risk, public, no, public risk, private benefit or whatever the fuck?
Kodak Black's lawyer slams Hunter, bud.
joe rogan
Kodak Black's lawyer slams Hunter Biden plea deal after a rapper sentenced to three-plus years for the same crime.
Attorney for rapper questioned different outcomes for his client.
Didn't Kodak Black had a lot of drugs?
jamie vernon
Yeah, but Lil Wayne, I think, had a similar charge and had worse penalties than...
joe rogan
Was it him with drugs, too?
jamie vernon
I don't know exactly each case.
I know it's a case-by-case basis, but there are a lot of people that are mad about Hunter's situation.
brian simpson
But to be fair, though, this is not Kodak Black's first conviction.
joe rogan
Oh, what has he done?
brian simpson
I don't know, but I think he just got out of prison.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
Well, this might have been because of that.
I think that's why he said, yeah, like his lawyer said, two tiers of justice.
He was charged for the same crime and did three years.
Hunter Biden will not serve a day.
brian simpson
Okay.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
But also don't know if, I mean, I haven't looked back at Hunter Biden.
Did he never get arrested for any of his problems in the past?
joe rogan
Well, he said he was pardoned by Trump in 2021. Hunter Biden?
No.
brian simpson
Oh, Kodak Black.
Oh, he was.
He was pardoned by Trump.
joe rogan
For that?
For that same charge?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild, a pardon thing?
That's wild.
That you could just say, yeah, let him out.
brian simpson
It's wild who doesn't get one.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like Julian Assange.
brian simpson
Right, Julian Assange.
joe rogan
Edward Snowden.
brian simpson
Edward Snowden.
joe rogan
Joe Exotic.
Yeah, Free Joe Exotic.
brian simpson
Who was the other Manning?
Bradley Manning?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Who's kind of connected to Julian Assange.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
But also, he...
joe rogan
That's Chelsea Manning now.
brian simpson
Right, Chelsea Manning transitioned while in government custody for treason.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
How did that happen?
No one ever talks about that.
Or did it happen after?
Because I thought...
I thought when she initially got arrested, it was Bradley Manning.
And while she was still in custody, it changed to Chelsea Manning.
joe rogan
I think so.
brian simpson
And I was like...
Because it seems like you're getting mistreated, but also if you can transition, they're treating you pretty...
Nice.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
In prison.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
So I'm just always confused.
joe rogan
I wonder what the transition consists of.
I mean, someone can transition by just identifying as a woman now.
You just start dressing like a woman.
You can still keep your dick.
You can still keep your hormones.
brian simpson
I think most of them start taking hormones.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
brian simpson
I don't know what the percentage is.
Listen, transitioning from a woman to a man would probably be easier, but I think women can tell you're not one of them.
You've got to take estrogen if you're transitioning to a woman, because you've got to think like them.
They can pick up on the vibe.
I don't think...
You're not taking your estrogen.
Like, what is this logic?
joe rogan
Do you know what autogynophilia is?
brian simpson
Autogynophilia?
joe rogan
Autogynophilia.
brian simpson
Autogynophilia.
Okay, I'm gonna guess.
Auto means happening without, like, unconsciously.
Gyna is vaginas, right?
Like a gynecologist, I'm guessing?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Philia means love.
Oh, so it means somebody that automatically loves pussy?
joe rogan
No, autogynophilia is men have a sexual fetish where they're attracted to women, but they want to dress up like a woman.
They want to dress up like a woman and fuck women.
Autogynophilia is defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female.
It's a paraphilia that is theorized to underline transvestism and some forms of male to female transsexualism.
So you used to be able to say this.
That was like a normal statement.
Now that is transphobic, which is really wild because it's been in the psychological literature forever.
It's a condition.
brian simpson
It's like Rocky Horror Picture Show shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's a kink.
brian simpson
I got a homie like that.
He transitioned to a woman, but he fucks women.
He still loves women.
So maybe he loves women so much that he also wants to be a woman.
joe rogan
I think it just gets turned on by the idea of him being a woman.
I don't know.
unidentified
It's just like, what is that?
brian simpson
My first girlfriend was like that.
She loved to masturbate in the mirror.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
That's weird.
brian simpson
That's crazy.
I don't want to see nothing of myself.
joe rogan
Just looking at yourself.
Making a mean face at yourself.
brian simpson
Imagine thinking you're so hot that you make you cum.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
brian simpson
That's crazy.
He's like, man, if I was a bitch, I'd do this better than these hoes.
joe rogan
Who knows what's going on with that?
You were telling me about a woman that transitioned to a man and started taking testosterone.
And then came up to you.
brian simpson
Actually, that happened twice.
I had two female friends that transitioned to male.
joe rogan
Oh, it's him fucking in the mirror.
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
American Psycho.
joe rogan
That was a great movie, dude.
brian simpson
Awesome.
joe rogan
The book is even more fucked up.
brian simpson
But every trans man I know, every woman that transitioned to a man that I know personally, when they started taking testosterone, at some point, they walked up to me and was like, I get it.
joe rogan
I get it now.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Testosterone's a hell of a fucking thing to just start taking a high dose of.
Because you realize, oh, I want to fucking...
It's this aggression that gets introduced to you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, and it hits every man at the worst possible time.
When your body's just getting coordinated, you don't know shit about life, and there's this drug that makes you want to fucking kill and dominate and win, and it's just the highest dose you're ever going to receive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah.
It's like, you take like 15 years for it to fucking wear off.
joe rogan
That's why they want people to join the Navy and the Army and the Marines when they're 17. Yeah.
18 years old.
brian simpson
Yeah, when they can whip you into a fervor with just a little speech.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Get you fired up.
You're ready to kill.
brian simpson
Yeah, you want to live forever?
Yeah!
Yeah, see, now I'll be like, yeah, I do.
I would have got on that sub when I was 19. Of course.
But now I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with y'all?
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Yeah, I probably would have did it if I was young and stupid and I didn't understand consequences, but I probably would have been regretting it halfway down.
brian simpson
Not understanding consequences.
joe rogan
That's the most horrific of consequences.
And the whole world's watching, too.
brian simpson
Yeah.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that scares me.
brian simpson
And the thing is, because they're all rich, it's a joke.
I'm sure some people have empathy, but right away Twitter's like, Yep.
The memes are coming.
If you search right now on Twitter for the knocking sound, it's just beats.
It's like just real hip-hop songs.
People are like, I heard they was listening to this and it's just Young Jeezy.
Or it's like the new Killer Mike album.
I can't believe they got it down there.
It came out the same day.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
I heard a couple farts.
Just like listening to a knock and then just someone ripping ass.
brian simpson
The new Killer Mike album is fucking amazing.
joe rogan
It's very good.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's very good.
brian simpson
David Lucas played it in the green room last night.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very good.
brian simpson
This is Mike in his bag right here.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's in his own right now.
I try to talk him into doing a podcast.
I hope he listens.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
joe rogan
He'd have an amazing podcast.
brian simpson
That'd be incredible.
joe rogan
He'd have the best podcast out there.
He's so...
When he has to give public speeches about things, he's so good at that, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
He's very articulate.
joe rogan
He's also empathetic and kind, like wise.
He's very wise.
brian simpson
Because he practices something that I learned from doing comedy for real, and it's that people...
If you ask somebody, is it okay to talk about this?
People will say yes or no or whatever.
But the way they respond to a joke, you breaking the shit down to where it's obvious that you've put a lot of thought into it is enough for most people to not have a negative reaction.
Even if it's a controversial subject.
So when he goes and gives speeches about controversial issues or he's talking to a group of people that all disagree with him, it's like he's so thoughtful.
That you can't not like him anyway.
Even if he's saying something that you totally don't agree with.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He understands how his words are being interpreted by the people that he's talking to.
He's very smooth and careful with how he does it.
brian simpson
Yeah, meticulous too.
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, he'd be an awesome podcast.
He's a great guest.
He's always got great opinions about things.
That's all you need.
And there's always room for more people like that.
I'm always trying to encourage interesting people to start podcasts.
It's such a great way to get stuff out there.
And for me, I want to hear how different people think.
I'm always wondering, why do I think like this?
What's the genesis of it?
brian simpson
You know what I love about doing my podcast?
It's not hugely popular yet, but it lets me...
It lets me get all my thoughts out without the obligation to be funny.
Because sometimes you gotta get through all of the unfunny to find the funny.
And you don't always have time to do that on stage.
You know what I mean?
So it's nice to just...
It's like finding a gold nugget, but it's all covered in shit.
You gotta chip off and wash off.
Sometimes the nugget's buried so deep that I don't have time to do it on stage.
joe rogan
I have to like...
brian simpson
Yeah, normally I would just be sitting there thinking those thoughts or saying them to myself.
joe rogan
Right, but when you're saying them out loud like that too, you're hashing them out and you're working it out in real time.
Yeah, yeah.
Tim's the best at that shit.
Tim Dillon is so funny off the cuff on those rants.
brian simpson
This motherfucker get started on a rant.
joe rogan
Oh my god, his rants are fucking incredible.
He's dystopian.
brian simpson
He's the best at ranting.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's the best.
He's the best at it.
And it translates to his stand-up.
His stand-up got way better after he started doing his podcast.
And it's just, it's like a, it's a premise factory.
brian simpson
Yeah.
So another person has been in the mothership.
Most of the people have come now.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Everybody's been there.
brian simpson
Man, it's so awesome.
joe rogan
Tim talks a lot of shit, but he bought a second house here.
He can shut the fuck up.
He bought a house out here.
brian simpson
I try to explain to people what Because I would never tell somebody, hey, this is better than New York or better than that.
Because that's a stupid argument to have.
But I feel like you should go wherever you're going to benefit the most.
Wherever you have the most connections, wherever you're going to get the most stage time.
And you get a lot of stage time out here.
Like Cam Patterson moved out here from Florida.
Listen, I saw this dude...
On the internet.
He had put a joke on Instagram and it came up on my feed and I liked it and followed him.
Follow me back.
A month and a half later, a mothership opens.
I'm standing outside smoking on the second day and he goes walking by me on the street.
He's like, hey, don't I know you?
He's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, did you move here?
unidentified
He was like, yeah.
brian simpson
And I was like, hey, come in on Monday to the open mic.
He comes in.
unidentified
Adam loves him.
brian simpson
He does Bottom of the Barrel the next day.
Adam's like, holy shit, Tony sees him.
Tony's like, I love this motherfucker.
Kill Tony.
Kill that shit.
joe rogan
And he went on the Kill Tony anniversary show.
brian simpson
Yeah, he was on the anniversary show.
And he's a door guy now.
And it's like, the whole life just changed up.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, I love the Door Guy program.
It's basically an advanced version of what we had at the store, but genuinely dedicated to development of new talent.
brian simpson
The Door Guys get so much stage time.
joe rogan
But we were talking about that before we ever did this.
When we were planning this out and we were hanging out in the Vulcan, we all were in agreement.
You've got to have two nights of open mic nights.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You've got to have a lot of open mic.
Minimum.
Minimum.
That's how the store had it back in the day.
That's really the best way to do it.
And you can always have, you know, like last time we did open mic night, Bill Burr was in town.
He went up, like a bunch of people go up.
It'll be pros after the amateurs.
brian simpson
Well, I think a lot of clubs don't, you know, because open mic doesn't, it's not a money-making night.
unidentified
No.
brian simpson
You know, and so a lot of clubs, like, they see it as an afterthought, but it's like...
joe rogan
It's stupid.
brian simpson
You have to nurture the scene.
joe rogan
You're doing it for the greater good of the art form.
The more people that do it, the better the people will be.
The better the people that are around you, the better you'll be.
It's good for everybody.
And if you're a comedy fan and you go in one day and you see some kid who's been doing comedy for two years...
It's kind of funny.
And then you come back six years later and they're fucking headlining.
brian simpson
Be a beast.
joe rogan
And you're like, wow, this is wild.
This is wild.
It's beautiful to see, man.
It's exciting.
It's an exciting time for stand-up.
brian simpson
It's my favorite place.
joe rogan
And, you know, what we're doing out here is the best that we can do right here.
It doesn't mean that it's better than anywhere else.
They're all great if you do it the right way.
You've got to do it the right way.
brian simpson
It's just another place where you can do it.
I don't think you have to like, there's a winner.
That's dumb.
joe rogan
But it does help that there's so many good comics here.
brian simpson
There's a lot of good comics here.
There's a lot of stage time here.
And there's decent money to be made.
Even if you're not a famous comic.
Because all the spots pay pretty well.
joe rogan
That's the good thing that we did out here.
We jacked that up.
brian simpson
Yeah, all that free shit.
If your show don't pay, it's not going to last here.
Yeah.
Because my attitude's always been the same.
It's not like I'm above doing a free show.
But if I find out you're making money and you're not paying the comics, then I'm not fucking with you.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Well, they used to have those shows in L.A. where the one person putting on the show...
Was making all the money.
They were making thousands of dollars and they'd give like $50 to this person.
They'd give a couple hundred bucks out out of thousands and thousands of dollars for a sold out show.
But that person wasn't even a good comic.
People were coming to see all the other people and the other people were just doing the show because it was convenient.
They were in town.
Yeah, I want to do a set.
And they just wanted to do a set just to work out.
And you think of the store as a place to just work out.
And you realize, oh, somebody's like massively profiting.
Making like 85% of the money.
Yeah.
It's kind of fucked up.
But it's, you know...
That doesn't have to be the case.
The way we're doing it is way better.
Where the comics feel appreciated, the reason why people are going there is for the comics.
So they make the money.
That's how it's supposed to be.
And it's also good for everybody else.
It's good.
It's good for the club.
The club's got to understand, like, what are you selling?
This is the argument that I had with the store when I got banned.
I was like, you have a box with a microphone in it.
If we don't go, you have nothing.
You're not selling the Comedy Store.
The Comedy Store is a great venue that has a lot of amazing history.
But it's filled with us.
We're the comedians.
So if a shithead like you is making decisions and supporting a fucking joke thief over the rest of the community, you know what the fuck is going on.
brian simpson
All you have is a box.
Most of the institutions in comedy work that way.
Where the institution gets most of the money.
But it's like...
But the problem is they get you when you're not a draw.
Right.
So then they can say, oh, well, they're not here because of you.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
So you get used to getting underpaid and not asking more about the money and how you're compensated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And before you know it, you just have, you know, when it's all said and done, you have all these memories and, you know, it's the prestige.
joe rogan
Well, the thing about the store was it was a great place to work on your act and then you'd make money going to other places.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So that's how I always approached it.
I always approached it as its home base.
I'm glad they make money because I want to support it.
And it's the best club that's ever existed.
brian simpson
I don't think they should make nothing.
joe rogan
When you would find out how much money was on one of those bringer shows, those showcase shows, you feel violated.
You feel like, you fucked me.
You know that that's not fair.
You give someone $50 and you're making $6,000?
That's crazy.
That's what happens when people are allowed to do shit like that.
Generally, the people that are doing it aren't artists.
It's just like a business person that's figured out this little loophole that the artists who are just not good at planning for shit are kind of scatterbrained and impulsive.
brian simpson
There's every kind of artist at every level.
joe rogan
Yeah, so the concept behind this is just that, well, let's just put all the power in the hands of the artists and just do it right, do it ethically, and create like a real sense of community.
brian simpson
There's people that don't like that.
Who?
I think people that benefit from Artists being...
joe rogan
Yeah, you mean people that don't own other clubs.
brian simpson
Yeah, people that don't benefit from artists being empowered, you know?
joe rogan
Well, it's not even a power thing.
It's like you need them too.
Like, I'm happy that they make money.
I want everybody to make money.
But the thing is, like, they always held it over us.
brian simpson
But you know what it is?
Making money gives you the ability to say no to other money.
Like, it's like...
Because what I found is people in show business, a lot of times, all their power is in the fact that you don't have anything.
So it's like, all I got to do is throw a little bit of money at you.
And you have to say yes, because you're living in L.A. You're trying to survive.
Your rent is $8,000 a month for an efficiency.
And you need money.
And so you're going to sign this shitty contract and I'm going to give you 10 grand and that's more money than you've ever had at once.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
And I'm buying the rights to your idea and I'm going to turn around and make 10 million dollars off it.
But when you have security in your money, you can say no to shit like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that sort of situation in Hollywood only really applies to big budget things now.
It's very hard to get people, if they know what's going on, to sign off on something like that now.
A big budget thing is different.
If it's a movie or something like that, then what are you going to do?
brian simpson
It's going to make me famous and give me steady work.
There's some desperate people in the show business.
joe rogan
You know what's wild is this story with The Flash.
Do you know the story with the movie The Flash?
brian simpson
I mean, I know Ezra Miller is like a controversial figure.
joe rogan
But to say it mildly.
brian simpson
Really?
joe rogan
To say it mildly.
brian simpson
Okay, hit me.
joe rogan
I mean, he must be so good in this fucking movie.
I haven't seen the movie, but I heard it's really good.
brian simpson
He kidnapped the person, right?
joe rogan
He's a freak, man.
brian simpson
Okay.
joe rogan
I mean, he's non-binary.
He says he's a they-them, which gives him a lot of leeway.
But with the stuff that he gets accused of...
It's like, what is he accused of, Jamie?
It's weird.
Because it's hard to imagine that they still release this movie with all these controversial charges against this guy.
And I understand that they spent some god-awful amount of money on the movie.
brian simpson
It was funny, too.
The Batgirl lady didn't do shit.
They just canceled her movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he got something with children.
Okay.
Vanity Fair's report followed an update from Rolling Stone which detailed how Vermont State Police were unable to find a mother and her three children who are allegedly living in unsafe conditions at Miller's Farm in the state.
Reportedly, the police attempt to serve the mother with an emergency care order that would take away the children from Miller's property.
The repeated attempt to contact the mother apparently is what resulted in the police charging Miller with felony burglary.
Vermont State Police also report this occurred after police found out that several bottles of alcohol were taken from a residence.
After looking at surveillance footage, they found probable cause to charge Miller, who was issued a citation to show up in Vermont Superior Court for arraignment in late September.
Imagine the flash steals your booze.
You see the flash.
It's breaking into your house and stealing your booze.
jamie vernon
It was his house though, wasn't it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jamie vernon
Well, it says it's his property.
People were staying there.
joe rogan
It says it's taking from a residence.
jamie vernon
Miller's property.
joe rogan
Well, the parents, the children were staying at Miller's property.
jamie vernon
His farm.
joe rogan
His farm, right.
It says the repeated attempt, contact mother, apparently, resulted in police charging Miller with felony burglary.
This occurred after police found out that several surveillance footage, several bottles of alcohol were taken from a residence.
It doesn't say the same residence.
It says a residence, like someone's home.
So he was stolen from someone's house.
After looking at surveillance footage, they found the probable cause to charge Miller.
So it's not his.
He stole booze from someone's house.
So that's what I was saying, Jamie.
brian simpson
That doesn't seem that bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's crazy.
Imagine The Flash is stealing booze.
Are you a fucking superhero?
You're stealing my booze?
brian simpson
Imagine somebody that's rich stealing anything from you.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
What do those two things have to do with each other?
joe rogan
I don't know.
So the child, the mother and the children, who knows what that is?
Yeah, go ahead.
That could be anything.
You want glasses and ice?
Can we get glasses and ice for Mr. Simpson?
Yeah, but there was something else.
There was a protection order put against him.
jamie vernon
There were unattended guns at the house.
A source alleged that one child picked up a stray bullet and put it in her mouth.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
jamie vernon
A social worker visited the home and told the children's father that they looked good, yet there was more work to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, but wasn't there something else, though?
jamie vernon
That's what I'm wondering.
I've never heard...
joe rogan
There's more than one case.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it sounded to me like people rented his house, and then some shit was happening at his house, and he's trying to get involved, but that does not seem like what was really happening.
It seems like there's something else.
joe rogan
You sound like an Ezra Miller apologist.
jamie vernon
I've never heard of it.
joe rogan
What is that that you got right there?
brian simpson
This is Estancia.
joe rogan
Oh, that stuff's horrible.
Is it?
That's Megan Murphy stuff.
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
No?
brian simpson
No?
joe rogan
It's not?
Is that tequila?
jamie vernon
Those are way different bottles.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
I think.
joe rogan
Let's get him some ice and some glasses.
brian simpson
What is that?
joe rogan
Is that it?
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that stuff is turpentine Megan loves that doesn't make any sense.
What's that?
Death.
It tastes like turpentine I think it's nasty, but she likes it.
I don't know, some people just like really fucking strong alcohol.
Hey, we got ice.
brian simpson
What is this?
joe rogan
Two C? I don't know, man.
Grab some stuff.
Just grab whatever looks good.
brian simpson
Bruh, I don't even know.
I'm gonna taste this.
I'm gonna see it as bad as you say.
joe rogan
It's bad.
brian simpson
This, though...
joe rogan
Give that stuff a try first.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you want, we can break out some smelling salts.
brian simpson
See what we got going on here.
It can't be that bad.
joe rogan
Oh, it's bad.
Take a sip of that.
jamie vernon
It's tequila moonshine, basically.
joe rogan
Go ahead.
jamie vernon
Hit it.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
I told you.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Nasty.
brian simpson
What the fuck, Megan?
joe rogan
What the fuck?
What the fuck, Megan?
brian simpson
This shit tastes like...
unidentified
She loves it!
brian simpson
It tastes like floor cleaner or some shit.
joe rogan
It's so nasty.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah, I'm good on this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, who likes that?
brian simpson
Weirdos.
joe rogan
Let me get a swig of that.
Just so I... You're not alone.
You're not alone.
brian simpson
Oh, it's so gross, man.
joe rogan
It's foul.
Here we go.
brian simpson
Let's take a little bit I'm gonna take my punishment It's worse than I remember Oh Yeah, it's real bad.
joe rogan
It's foul.
jamie vernon
Smelling salt so you can forget that?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Bust out the smelling salts.
jamie vernon
They're fresh.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
Oh, you really got smelling salts?
Of course you do.
joe rogan
Of course you do.
brian simpson
Why is that surprising at all?
joe rogan
Theo Vaughn is addictive.
Whoops.
Theo Vaughn.
Is this the same ones?
Oh, this is in the bag.
This is gonna be rough.
brian simpson
Are those for the legit joints?
They use it in fights?
joe rogan
No, they use it like power lifters use it before they attempt a big lift.
jamie vernon
Really?
That's in a special package?
This is a different company.
This is not in a special package.
joe rogan
Oh, jeez.
This one's so bad, Jamie.
jamie vernon
I know.
joe rogan
My eyes hurt.
My eyes hurt from opening the bag, dude.
I haven't even opened the bottle.
brian simpson
I don't know what this means.
joe rogan
Holy shit, dude.
Just smell this bag.
Just smell the bag.
brian simpson
Why are you doing this?
joe rogan
The bag's closed.
That's just the bag.
That's just the bag.
It's not even this.
brian simpson
He didn't give me no fucking...
He didn't go, take a little, tiny...
Take your time.
joe rogan
This is still sealed.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
The rest of this episode is going to turn to me smelling stuff.
joe rogan
Bro, this hurts from here.
brian simpson
Oh man, Joe.
joe rogan
No!
brian simpson
You went too close.
It can't be that bad.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
Oh my god, he went too close.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
We're going to have to take a break, I think.
joe rogan
No, no, no, we're good.
jamie vernon
Brian's going to go.
joe rogan
It's still burning me.
jamie vernon
Brian almost ate it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
This one is so much stronger, dude.
jamie vernon
I know.
joe rogan
That's why I'm leaving these in the package.
It's so, so much stronger.
brian simpson
Oh, shit!
Oh, that's bad.
joe rogan
And it's so much stronger.
brian simpson
Oh, that's bad.
joe rogan
It's so bad.
brian simpson
Oh, Lord.
joe rogan
That is...
That's the old one times, like, a thousand.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
It hurts, dude, still.
It still hurts.
The inside of my nose got scorched.
jamie vernon
I thought they had flavored ones.
joe rogan
What flavor?
jamie vernon
I couldn't find it.
I think they might have stopped.
joe rogan
Folks at home, you can hear Brian Simpson's in the hallway moaning.
Oh, Jesus.
That was so...
brian simpson
One of the worst things I've ever done.
joe rogan
Ever.
Can you close the door, please?
It's still burning me.
And I did mine like 30 seconds before you.
brian simpson
Oh, fuck.
jamie vernon
Pool water.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
It smells to me that I just remember pool water.
joe rogan
This is way worse than pool water.
It's just...
jamie vernon
Sucking pool water.
joe rogan
It's the worst, man.
brian simpson
Yo, this shit is...
joe rogan
This one, Jamie, is so bad.
It's so much worse than the other ones.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
I treated it like it was the other ones.
I took a real snifferoo.
I got in there deep.
jamie vernon
It was in the package package.
The package that came in the mail, it was smelling through that.
joe rogan
It's insane how strong it is.
brian simpson
Oh my god, dude.
joe rogan
That's insane.
How could that possibly help you?
brian simpson
Why is that necessary?
joe rogan
I was thinking, do this and go on stage, but I never did.
But imagine that one, doing that one.
unidentified
You go on stage, people are like, what drugs are you on?
joe rogan
Smelling salts.
brian simpson
That was one of the worst things.
I don't know if I've ever regretted something so quick.
jamie vernon
Where is it, by the way?
Where'd you put it?
unidentified
It's right here.
joe rogan
It's right here.
brian simpson
Oh my god, dude.
That shit, it burned my whole shit, like all up in my side.
joe rogan
Is this supposed to be the same as the other ones we got?
jamie vernon
There's only one he makes.
joe rogan
That's insane.
It's so inconsistent.
brian simpson
What the fuck is it for?
joe rogan
It's powerlifters.
They take a sniff of that shit and then lift weights.
brian simpson
No way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's horrible, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Want to try it?
No, no.
Absolutely not.
My eyes are already, I'm like close enough.
joe rogan
Bro, my eyes were watering when I opened up the bag.
Just when I tore the top of the bag, my eyes started watering.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
joe rogan
That's insane.
brian simpson
Oh, my God, bro.
Bro, y'all don't even know what I was just going through.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's harsh.
brian simpson
Like, I don't know what the fuck was wrong with me.
That bag fucked me up.
And you were like, that's even stronger.
And I put it right here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
It's like, what the fuck?
So the whole time I was suffering, I was feeling like an idiot.
I was like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Oh, I felt like an idiot too because I had done it before on the ones that were not as potent.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
joe rogan
That is the most potent one by far.
brian simpson
Easy.
jamie vernon
It's so bad.
joe rogan
Get that shit away from me.
jamie vernon
Redline.
joe rogan
That's worse?
jamie vernon
It was just like the highest selling one on Amazon.
It says they use an advanced polymer to bring the strongest and longest lasting formulation yet.
joe rogan
Oh.
Maybe it lasts longer, because this one, after a while, it does die off.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is made out of some weird material.
joe rogan
We should probably store this in the garage.
Like, I think it's bothering me just sitting here.
brian simpson
Yeah, I don't give a fuck what that one smells like.
Sparing that over.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
brian simpson
No, sir.
joe rogan
Oof, you got me, these motherfuckers.
Do you smell it?
Do you smell that?
Like, when you're holding the bottle?
Do you smell it?
Oh, you're hiding it.
brian simpson
Can you bring a bottle of water?
unidentified
There's water right there in that metal cup.
brian simpson
That's right.
joe rogan
Dude, what's wrong with us?
Terrible taste in alcohol.
brian simpson
That was so stupid!
joe rogan
So dumb.
brian simpson
Oh, man, Joe.
joe rogan
I can't wait to get Theo back in here.
Open up a freshie.
That's the thing.
You gotta open up that bag.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's...
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's still in the room.
jamie vernon
It sure is.
brian simpson
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
But it's crazy because the ones that we had before, they were like one-tenth of that.
brian simpson
I threw my glasses.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I'm worried we're going to throw the smell in salt.
brian simpson
Well, no, the thing is, I couldn't.
Oh, you think that happened?
jamie vernon
I thought you tossed it.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I couldn't see.
I didn't see that happen with you.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because my eyes were burning.
I had to close my eyes.
I had my eyes closed shut, and I heard you go, wah!
Yeah, oh, my God.
brian simpson
Oh, man, what was wrong with me?
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
brian simpson
God damn.
joe rogan
It still hurts.
The inside of my nose still hurts.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It's probably like 50 times worse than the last one.
brian simpson
And the worst shit is when you hurt yourself and you can only blame yourself.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
No, you can blame me.
jamie vernon
What did they figure out that makes it so fucking strong that nobody else has?
I don't know how they stumbled across that.
brian simpson
Man, that, you know, maybe this is the best advertisement for it.
That's the strongest shit I've ever smelled, ever.
unidentified
Period.
joe rogan
But, Jamie, this is the same one as the other ones.
unidentified
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
So it's like the batches are different.
jamie vernon
It's just, it's like a weed edible, you know?
Sometimes you break it up and you put too much in the left one and the one on the right gets all the less.
brian simpson
Like, if they start mixing that shit with cocaine, people will quit cocaine overnight.
joe rogan
I 100% thought that I was going to see blood in this tissue when I just blew my nose.
brian simpson
It still hurts.
It still hurts all up in my head.
joe rogan
Yeah, my eyes hurt.
brian simpson
The thing is, I was breathing, but I felt like I wasn't breathing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, it was horrible.
brian simpson
Yeah, I thought it was going to never end.
joe rogan
The inside of my nose is scorched.
jamie vernon
You're not supposed to go that close.
You guys went close, and you're supposed to go.
unidentified
Where are you supposed to go?
jamie vernon
Like six inches away, maybe?
joe rogan
Where'd I go?
brian simpson
Yeah, where was all that information fucking ten minutes ago?
joe rogan
I got up in there.
jamie vernon
Now you weren't listening to me saying, don't go that deep.
joe rogan
It's like six inches right here.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
Nah, bro.
brian simpson
Nah, bro.
unidentified
Even then, though.
brian simpson
That sounds like cat to me.
That's like when they told us to stay six feet away for COVID. Right.
That just sounds like a number that somebody just threw out there.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it actually says 12 inches away.
brian simpson
Yeah, okay.
That's more like it.
Because right here, right here, fuck me up.
joe rogan
We both got in there.
unidentified
We got in there.
joe rogan
I was like an inch from my nose.
jamie vernon
I did not do more than a few times per day.
unidentified
Uh-oh, it's real.
brian simpson
I'm telling you, Joe, somebody's going to remix this episode, and they're going to constantly be playing, you going, just suck on it, and then us sniffing these fucking...
And it's going to turn into, they're going to put a beat to it.
joe rogan
One can only hope.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, the fans are fucking crazy.
unidentified
The internet's amazing.
brian simpson
The internet is so great.
joe rogan
Memes, to me, that's some of my favorite laughs of the day.
It's ridiculous memes that people say.
brian simpson
It really is...
A brand new kind of version of comedy.
And it's very super culturally specific.
Most of the best memes are of the time.
You couldn't show somebody a meme.
You know, you show somebody a meme in 10 years with no context and they just don't get it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
So it's like the new version of a street joke.
joe rogan
Right, right.
And some of them, they just get everywhere, like the dude with the big dick sitting on the side of the bed.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian simpson
Because the pictures can be used for so many things.
unidentified
Yes!
So many things.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brian simpson
And there's some people out there that really be, you know, they really good at making a good meme.
joe rogan
Anytime someone gets fucked up, anytime something happens, someone falls down, someone does that meme of me with the microphone there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
And they don't get paid for it.
Wherever they come from, somebody always takes credit and they don't get paid.
Right.
joe rogan
Well, there's all these pages that are just dedicated to memes, and they just find them, you know, on Reddit or wherever they get them from, on 4chan, and they just post them everywhere.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, it's crowdsourced comedy.
brian simpson
Yeah, and now everyone with a sense of humor has a folder dedicated to memes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Some people are quick with them too, like when my friends send me them sometimes.
Like, how the fuck?
Did you have that?
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
Just sitting there, do you have them categorized?
joe rogan
It all picked up during the pandemic, right?
unidentified
Don't you think?
Ming Ming?
brian simpson
Nah, Ming Ming was big before the pandemic.
joe rogan
But don't you think it got bigger during the pandemic?
unidentified
No.
brian simpson
You know what I think happened is I think there were memes that were more universal.
So it felt like that.
Like we all shared more stuff than we normally, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Like masks.
brian simpson
Yeah, like Tiger King type of deal.
If that wasn't for the pandemic, that would have been kind of popular, but everyone wouldn't have seen it.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if Trump pardoned him?
brian simpson
I thought he would've.
joe rogan
I wonder if it was on a list.
brian simpson
I thought he was going to, but I think he probably said some shit about Trump in the past.
joe rogan
Did he?
brian simpson
Or something.
Something.
unidentified
Not wise.
brian simpson
Because it's wild that he wouldn't do it, because so many people wanted him to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Is he in jail?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I thought he was dying of cancer.
jamie vernon
Oh, this was posted yesterday.
brian simpson
Hmm.
unidentified
So, he says, yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
What is it?
unidentified
He tagged Trump?
brian simpson
This can't be real.
unidentified
What is it saying?
joe rogan
I think it is his account, because they messaged me on that.
It said, someone better start doing reform because they and their families are supporting me because you never keep your promises.
Okay.
I don't know what that means.
I'm not sure what that means, but...
That guy, I mean, what a weird cultural phenomenon, right?
Everyone's locked in their home, and then all of a sudden there's this wacky reality show about a dude who collects tigers, and everybody's telling you you have to see it.
brian simpson
Yeah, and they were right.
joe rogan
It was great, but they just caught lightning in a bottle.
They hit the perfect spot.
brian simpson
Yeah, they were like HBO by accident.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
For once.
joe rogan
For one show.
brian simpson
Yeah, Tiger King was a hit.
I mean, they've had a couple hits, too, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that one was, like, everywhere.
jamie vernon
He was trying for president.
He was trying to.
joe rogan
State sends back his paperwork because he's not on the presidential ballot in Colorado.
Colorado's like, no, son.
Fuck out of here.
brian simpson
Damn.
The smelling salts, man.
joe rogan
I'm just coming back to normal.
brian simpson
Yeah, I'm just...
It still burns a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, my right nostril's still a little lit up.
brian simpson
But boy, I'm breathing good.
joe rogan
Yeah, it cleaned you out.
brian simpson
Is that what that's for?
I think that's what that's for.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's just a central nervous stimulant.
The idea is that you get that jolt of it and your whole body's like, ah!
And then you can fucking rawr!
brian simpson
Yo, do that in the cold plunge.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
I don't know if people fainting, they used to break it out when you faint.
And then you put it up and you wake up.
But then people started doing other shit.
brian simpson
Of course.
But imagine waking up.
Now you got a concussion and you can't breathe.
joe rogan
What's the purpose of amyl nitrate?
Those were poppers.
And people would take amyl nitrate and they would pop it under their nose and sniff it.
And it would get really high.
brian simpson
I know it's a sex thing.
It's used to...
joe rogan
Vasodilator.
Vasodilator.
Vasodilator is a medicine to cause blood vessels in the body to dilate and involuntary smooth muscles to relax, lowering blood pressure and loosening up that booty hole.
Apparently that was a big thing in the gay community and contributed to...
I guess it really fucks you up.
I think amyl nitrate, I think it gives you brain damage.
jamie vernon
Also a cyanide poisoning antidote.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
Oh, so if you get cyanide poisoning, you crack one of those babies?
jamie vernon
It's one of those things from the 20s and 30s.
I don't know if people get cyanide poisoning these days.
joe rogan
I remember there was always the fucking spy that had a fake tooth.
brian simpson
It's illegal to sell.
It's like a sex thing.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so it's VCR head cleaner is what they sell.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brian simpson
That's how they sell it.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brian simpson
So it's like if you go into a porn store or an adult store, it's the only thing in there that'll help that's a VCR product.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
brian simpson
But it's definitely not poppers.
It's not for sniffing for sex.
joe rogan
Right, that's like bath salts.
brian simpson
It's the cleaning of VCR, which everyone has.
Oh yeah, bath salts.
Wait a minute, is that a sex thing?
joe rogan
Well, bath salts was a drug, like an amphetamine type drug, like a designer drug that they were selling that you could buy at like fucking 7-Eleven.
You'd buy at like a supermarket or like a convenience store, gas station store.
And these things, they would say, not for human consumption, bath salts.
And it was like an amphetamine and people were smoking it.
You don't remember that?
brian simpson
I remember bath salts being a thing, but I never was into it.
joe rogan
Well, it was in the news because some dude was on bath salts and he ate some guy's face.
brian simpson
Yeah, but that wasn't in them not being because of the bath salts.
joe rogan
Oh, he was fucking insane.
brian simpson
He was insane, right.
joe rogan
But the bath salts definitely didn't help.
I mean, if you're on meth and you're insane.
brian simpson
If you're already prone to some kind of delusional shit, it's just going to make it worse.
joe rogan
What were bath salts?
I think it was more than one different chemical because it's not regulated.
jamie vernon
I'm making sure it wasn't this stuff.
brian simpson
But can you actually use bath salts for baths?
joe rogan
No.
brian simpson
Okay, so it's all bullshit.
joe rogan
No.
I mean, if you did, you'd probably die.
jamie vernon
Synthetic.
joe rogan
Probably all that bath salts would get into your skin from the warm water.
All that meth.
unidentified
You take a meth bath.
Yeah, it'll get in your skin.
brian simpson
You think it's just a meth bath?
unidentified
Well, if you did it that way, if you did pour it into hot water, it would most likely get in your holes for sure.
jamie vernon
It's a synthetic version of this drug.
unidentified
Cat.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what the Somali pirates take.
Can you make that larger?
brian simpson
What does cat do?
joe rogan
Does it just make you want to It's like an amphetamine.
Cathinone is a monoamine alkaloid found in the shrub cathos edulis and is chemically similar to ephedrine.
Is it ephedrine?
unidentified
Ephedrine?
brian simpson
Ephedrine.
joe rogan
Ephedrine.
Caffeine, methcathenone, and other amphetamines.
So it's an amphetamine.
It's probably the main contributor to the stimulant effect of cathis adulis, also known as CAT.
So cathenone is bath salts?
jamie vernon
Synthetic cathenone.
joe rogan
Synthetic cathenone.
Marketed as bath salts.
Should not be confusing products such as Epsom salts, which people use during bathing.
Yeah, so I wonder how many people bought it and thought it was actual bath salts and poured it in the bath.
I bet they did.
Because if it says bath salts, some really fucking stupid person doesn't know.
jamie vernon
They're breaking into buildings to get that shit back in 2011. The bath salts?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's why if you mention that a drug is killing people.
joe rogan
People want to buy it.
brian simpson
Yeah, people want it.
jamie vernon
K2 was big at the same time, remember that?
What was K2? An herb-like substance that people smoked instead of weed that they sprayed shit on.
Remember that?
brian simpson
Me neither.
jamie vernon
And then they kept changing what they were spraying on every so often because it would get outlawed.
joe rogan
Do you remember this?
jamie vernon
Not much.
Then also the salvia.
Then people were like, oh, is it like this salvia shit that we're smoking?
joe rogan
Salvia is strong.
jamie vernon
It's not like that.
That is not the same thing.
joe rogan
Salvia is strong.
brian simpson
I've done salvia once, and I... Salvia is real.
joe rogan
That is a real fucking drug.
jamie vernon
Spice, they also called it.
brian simpson
Salvia might be the strongest, in terms of its effect, maybe the strongest drug I've ever taken.
joe rogan
Do you know that salvia is either in the family of sage, or what do you want?
brian simpson
Tissues.
joe rogan
It's either in the sage family, or it is sage.
Like, salvia divinorum, I think is, which is interesting, because, you know, sage, we've always thought of, like, wise old sage, like some ancient wisdom, and the fact that it's actually a psychedelic.
Is that the same thing?
Like, if you buy sage, is that salvia?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Is it a version of it?
jamie vernon
It's known as, it's just called diviner sage or seer sage.
I don't, I don't, I'm not sure.
joe rogan
It's not an actual sage?
jamie vernon
I mean, it's a plant, it's a shrub, I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
Kind of like a generic term.
joe rogan
Maybe it's like a, oh, okay.
But that stuff, you used to be able to buy it everywhere.
brian simpson
I couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
It's so powerful.
brian simpson
Dude, so the first time I did it, I remember, like, I thought that my body had shattered into, like, little millions of mini-me's, and I was, like, panicking trying to keep myself together in one...
jamie vernon
That's what sage is called, salvia.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's related somehow.
It says salvia...
So salvia divinorum is the salvia that is...
Yeah, okay.
And so that's a different kind of salvia that's sage?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that must be like salvia has got to be some sort of...
It's the genus, so that's like a least...
joe rogan
So somehow or another...
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
unidentified
Man, you know that people use that drug to like try to be shaman.
brian simpson
They're like, yeah, I took some salve.
This is what I saw.
That's your future.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brian simpson
Right, because you will see some crazy shit.
There was a girl with me doing it the first time I did it, and she wanted to do hers in the bathtub filled with pillows.
She's like, oh, it'd be so cool, whatever.
They put her in there, and she took the hit, and we closed the door, and she screamed for like 30 seconds.
She thought she was falling in a bottomless pit.
See, the thing about salvia is this is why salvia is so powerful, because it's the only drug I've ever taken where it is impossible for you to realize that you're on drugs.
It only lasts for 30 seconds or so, but you think that shit is happening.
There's no doubt in your mind, there's no point where you can stop and be like, it's okay, I'm on salvia.
If you do too many mushrooms, you're like, I'm just real high.
No, on salvia, you're like, this is happening.
I'm literally falling into the abyss.
Somebody kicked me into the pit from 300. Oh my god.
joe rogan
Did you ever see the video of Ari where he took Salvia on Red Band's show?
He took Salvia on Red Band's show and said he lived another life for months.
He said he had friends, he went to work, he had relationships, all this different shit, and then he woke up.
He was gone, he said, for months.
And it was like 10 minutes.
So he just tripped balls for 10 minutes.
I encourage everyone to watch it.
jamie vernon
He was taking bong rips and he didn't take the first one good enough so he took another hit and then this is the start of a 5 minute video where he just starts slipping away.
joe rogan
Yeah, he just went into another dimension, lived a different life.
jamie vernon
That's when he starts coming back is where things start getting real different.
joe rogan
That's what freaks me out.
Like, what if that's really what's going on?
What if there's, like, multiple Brian Simpsons living in multiple realms all over the world right now?
brian simpson
And that's what dreaming is?
joe rogan
All over the universe.
brian simpson
It's you just connecting to your different bodies.
joe rogan
Connecting to your consciousness to different portals.
brian simpson
Yeah, well, I think there's a lot to that belief that, like, The fact that we are all separate beings is an illusion.
You're just a little piece that's living a little piece, but you're connected to everything.
joe rogan
Do you think that there's a purpose to this struggle then?
If we're all connected in some ways, what is everyone struggling?
What is that facilitating?
Like what's that creating that's necessary?
Like why is that happening?
What's the overall purpose of that if we're all connected?
brian simpson
I don't think there is a purpose.
No?
No.
joe rogan
But it's doing something.
brian simpson
The need for purpose is a human affliction.
The need for things to mean something, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
It's like when you see a When you see a shark eat a, or you see a killer whale eat a seal, you don't go, what does it mean?
And the whale's definitely not thinking that.
It's like they're just being.
I don't think there's a purpose.
I think we just are.
The purpose is to experience.
joe rogan
Right, but the thing that's happening with human beings with this struggle and this, like, conquering resources and all the different...
One of the things they're doing is they're constantly creating new and better things.
And it seems like an overall purpose of the human race.
I just wonder if somehow or another that competition is what facilitates this increase in technology and innovation.
Part of it is because of the competition.
Part of it is because of the fact that we don't get along.
There's this struggle that creates movement.
brian simpson
Well human beings, we need competition to survive.
Yeah.
If you were ever in charge of a big group of people, the best thing to do is to break them into two teams and keep score.
I think it's something in human nature.
We need an enemy for us to unite.
That's why America was never more together than the month after 9-11.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
brian simpson
Right?
Because it's like, oh, now there's a them.
And we all feel justified because we don't know better.
joe rogan
Remember the American flags in everybody's car?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brian simpson
You have people listening to country music they never have.
unidentified
We'll put a boot in your ear.
brian simpson
Right?
joe rogan
People got very excited about it.
brian simpson
So it's like, I think that's just how people are built up.
They did that to us in the military.
You have, you know, it's like, well, obviously we're all the same unit.
We're all the same big unit with the same mission.
But, you know, it's your company versus my company.
It's your platoon versus my platoon.
It's your squad versus my squad within the platoon.
And it's like the competition, it pushes people.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
brian simpson
Yeah, for sure.
Everybody wants to win.
Winning feels great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Triumph.
Yeah.
brian simpson
That's the best shit ever.
When you watch another person triumph, you're like, you feel it.
Like when Izzy beat Perea, we felt that shit.
We were in the mothership green room.
I think you were calling the fights.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
But man, that moment, we lost our shit in there, man.
And we were all looking at a laptop screen and everybody was like, ah!
And then the speech he gave afterwards, everything was just so perfect, and you felt that.
joe rogan
That's as good as entertainment ever gets.
brian simpson
Yeah, he's like, I just wish you could have this feeling.
I was like, oh, I know that feeling.
joe rogan
But at his level, that's got to be insane.
brian simpson
The best of the world, redemption, overcoming the demon, revenge.
joe rogan
Revenge, flatlining the demon.
brian simpson
All the worst things.
All the most...
He triumphed over like three things in that one moment.
joe rogan
And he triumphed over the guy stylistically, which is the most dangerous opponent for him.
brian simpson
And here's the other thing.
What I love so much about that moment...
This is what I love about Izzy.
He knows how to be an entertainer.
A lot of the fighters don't realize that.
You have to be...
joe rogan
The greatest part was the arrows, when he shot the arrows into his body.
brian simpson
What was so beautiful about that moment to me is he won in the same position that he lost the last time.
The last time he got in that position where he was getting wailed on up against the fence, he lost.
And then he got put back right in that same position and had a fucking plan for it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was perfect.
Did you see the videos of him drilling that?
brian simpson
Oh, no.
joe rogan
He drilled that.
He drilled that over and over again.
Back to the ropes, right hand.
Back to the ropes, right hand.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, there's tons of video of him with his back to a wall in training throwing that right hand.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
He went over the videos.
He saw the hole.
He went over the fights.
He saw the style.
The style is so different.
Look at this.
So they planned this.
And look how the guy's fighting.
He's fighting like Pajero.
unidentified
Literally the same right hand off the cage.
joe rogan
Same exact right hand.
Did it perfect.
But that's also the same right hand that he landed at the end of the first round.
So the end of the first round, in the first MMA fight, he had Paeda in real trouble.
I remember that.
He would have had him right there.
It's basically he had him in the same trouble he had him with the first right hand where he knocked him out in the second fight.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it was the second shot that put him away.
The first shot rocks him, the second shot puts him away, and then the hammer fits him.
brian simpson
And they actually have a lot of respect for each other.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
But the thing is, I always feel bad for the foreign fighters.
Or I'll say this.
We're fighters where English is not their first language when it comes to the shit-talking game.
Because it's so cultural, and if you're not immersed enough in American culture, that trash talk...
Because Paheo's probably saying some shit where, like, if you speak Portuguese, you're like, Paheo talking this shit.
But in English, it doesn't translate.
You know, like, it's not the same thing.
He's like, oh, a man with two horses has more...
It's like, that's not coming across.
You know what I mean?
In Brazil, like, he talking that shit!
But over here, it's like, you can't talk shit with Izzy in English because you can't keep up.
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, he has to get by just on his talent.
I mean, his draw is just his destruction ability.
brian simpson
Oh, he is talented.
joe rogan
Oh, he's so talented.
brian simpson
He's moving up, right?
joe rogan
I believe so.
It's interesting.
Anderson Silva said he thought it was a mistake.
brian simpson
Moving up?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I didn't read the article.
I just read the headline.
It said Anderson Silva thought it was a mistake for him to move up to 205, which is interesting because I don't know if that's necessarily true.
brian simpson
I think he's going to dominate.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is wrestlers.
The problem is wrestlers.
Because Izzy, you know, had him in some real bad positions in that first fight.
Anderson Silva, not a fan of Pajeda's move to 205. He wanted Pajeda to win back the middleweight title before moving to light heavyweight.
I think that cut is too much.
I think that cut is real bad for him.
brian simpson
It's a huge man.
joe rogan
It's so bad for you.
And I think he's 35 now.
At a certain age, your body just does not want to do that anymore.
You're killing yourself one day before a cage fight.
brian simpson
I was over getting punched in the face in my 20s.
The last time I got punched in the face, I was like, I don't like that.
I'm not going to do it on purpose.
unidentified
Especially getting punched in the face by that guy or either one of those guys.
brian simpson
But you know what?
joe rogan
He's facing Jan Bohovic, which is a fucking wild fight.
brian simpson
That's going to be a problem.
joe rogan
And Jan Bohovic is a very good grappler, too.
So, I mean, he dominated Izzy on the ground.
brian simpson
And you know what, too?
Jan is very good at game planning.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
You know?
unidentified
He's also got tremendous power.
joe rogan
Fucking tremendous power.
brian simpson
But he doesn't always show up.
joe rogan
Well, I think, you know, if you look at the Glover to share a fight, that's a fight where he, you know, you could say he didn't show up, but I don't think that's the case.
I think that Glover's just that good.
brian simpson
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, especially that was like Glover's kind of last swan song.
He won the title.
brian simpson
Well, he just didn't...
Okay, maybe he didn't show up is not fair.
Jan, I would never say that to you in person.
I would say he didn't seem as locked in as he did when he fought Isis.
joe rogan
I think, I genuinely think that that's just how good Glover is.
brian simpson
Oh, wow, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think Glover's a beat.
He's just in his 40s, but he's still a fucking animal, man.
And in that fight, when he won the title, he was stellar.
I mean, if you watch the performance, you watch how he catches Jan with a left hand, how he takes him down, how he takes his back, I mean...
You can't really put it against Yon.
I think he got clipped.
brian simpson
Do you think he's going to be done these times soon?
joe rogan
Glover or Yon?
brian simpson
Glover.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think Glover's done.
Yeah, Glover retired after Jamal Hill boxed him up.
Jamal Hill showed him, I think, that at the top of the light heavyweight division now, these young guys, especially a talented striker like Jamal, it's just too much.
brian simpson
Fighting more than any other sport, the UFC moves the fastest in terms of the next generation adopting...
Yeah, because I seriously believe it's true of fighting, comedy, whatever.
I think the current generation's Amazing becomes the next generation's basics, right?
And then they build, and then that becomes their basics, and so the amazing shit they do is even more amazing.
It's like basketball, right?
Where it's like, I remember seeing Michael Jordan, when he went up on one side of the basket, brought it back down, and came back, and I had never seen anybody do that before.
It was amazing.
And now, you can't even be in the NBA if you can't do that.
If you're a point guard in the NBA, you have to be able to do that.
It's the basics, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
You know what Killer Mike showed us yesterday?
brian simpson
What?
joe rogan
Michael Jordan's brother.
You know, Michael Jordan had a brother who was a bad motherfucker.
brian simpson
He said he was better than him.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of Michael's moves you see his brother do.
Fadeaway jump shots.
brian simpson
Where's his brother?
joe rogan
His brother's smaller than him.
brian simpson
Oh, his brother's just smaller than him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But his brother's a killer player.
I don't know whatever happened with him if he played professionally.
I don't know what happened, but the dude was fucking good.
But the other thing we were saying yesterday, imagine having that brother as a sparring partner.
jamie vernon
He's only 5'8".
joe rogan
He's only 5'8".
unidentified
Wow.
brian simpson
But also imagine him not being famous too in some way.
joe rogan
I know.
Yeah.
brian simpson
It's like, for me to not know who he was until just now.
joe rogan
Or yesterday for me, yeah.
brian simpson
That seems kind of crazy.
Maybe he should have the Children's Jordans or something like that.
You know what I mean?
You know what I'm saying?
You think you would slide in something?
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
Some kind of way to make a...
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
Some people just want everybody to do it for themselves.
brian simpson
No, but I think it's a smart thing, man.
A lot of people don't realize, because you have the power, you can make someone famous.
You know, I've seen you do it to several people, but some people don't realize that, like, some people that think they want that don't realize what actually comes with it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't know what it is.
brian simpson
Right, so it's like, you know, maybe he just protected him from that.
It was like, you don't need to be famous, I'll take care of you, but you don't want that.
joe rogan
I doubt it.
Michael Jordan loves being famous.
jamie vernon
He took care of his brother.
He's got a pretty good job.
He gave him a job with the team he owned.
He played professional basketball, but he's not in the NBA. There you go.
joe rogan
We just don't know who he is.
He's not famous.
brian simpson
Working for the Bobcats.
joe rogan
Maybe he enjoys it.
Maybe he's a more low-key dude.
Some people don't want that pressure.
You only live a certain amount of time in this world.
How much pressure do you really want?
brian simpson
The thing, too, is you don't want to be the...
You don't want to be the famous person with a job.
To handle being famous, you have to have enough money to protect yourself from the negative side of it.
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
And you can't just get...
joe rogan
Well, that's why famous reality stars are fucked.
brian simpson
Right.
joe rogan
They don't have any money.
brian simpson
Right.
You're not rich enough to deal with being famous.
Because you gotta...
You'll lose your mind.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then sometimes they're famous for a little while, and then they're not on TV anymore, and then they have regular jobs.
I remember there was a couple of those guys from like the real world where, you know, they were infamous on the real world and then they're just out there in the wild with no money.
brian simpson
Right.
joe rogan
Famous.
brian simpson
You remember the rude gay guy from season four?
Yeah, he just delivered, he just dropped off my package.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
But, you know, there's nothing wrong with that.
Working a nine-to-five is an honorable, respectable fucking thing.
joe rogan
For sure.
brian simpson
But it's like...
I feel sorry for the generation of young folks that want to be known, but they don't care what they're known for.
joe rogan
Well, it's a goal, right?
And it's very difficult to get.
And it's also, you're saying, games.
People want to win.
If your friend has 100,000 Instagram followers, and you have 120,000, and you guys are battling it out, To see who's a bigger influencer.
And you're doing stunts and shit at the mall and pranks.
brian simpson
You know how Spotify will pay per listen, per play, and YouTube will pay per views, right?
Well, TikTok doesn't do that.
TikTok has a pool of money That only goes to the top 500 people or something like that.
I don't know what the exact number is.
So it's just a fixed amount of money that only goes to the top people.
And the top 10, number one gets paid the most, number two gets paid the second most, and so on and so forth.
So they're literally competing.
And there's people on there that have lost their minds because they went from number one to number two.
You know?
joe rogan
Wow.
brian simpson
When you start ranking people, that was the downfall of MySpace.
MySpace was just...
People might not remember.
The big change in social media was when Facebook started showing you stuff from people that you didn't know.
Remember at first, MySpace and Facebook was, it was just your friends, and if I wanted to know something about what was going on with you, I had to go to your page and look at what you posted on your page.
Then they started just showing you things from your friends' pages, so you didn't have to do that.
Then they started showing you stuff from other people.
Instagram, Vine, all this.
They were just showing you random stuff.
That's when the algorithm was born.
They were like, well, what do we show them?
Well, now we see this is what he looks at.
They start showing you stuff from strangers, and that's what changed everything.
Now you can be famous.
You make one little funny little thing, and you can be known.
joe rogan
How about that one dude that just has facial reactions to things?
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
I forget his name.
KB? Yeah.
KB-12 or something like that?
joe rogan
That guy's...
unidentified
Huge.
brian simpson
Huge.
And it's good.
joe rogan
It's funny.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's good.
joe rogan
It's entertaining.
brian simpson
It's like new age miming.
It's like he's doing exactly, he's thinking what we're thinking.
He's like.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And the fact that it's perfectly, like it's a perfect medium for it.
Those little short TikTok videos, little short reels.
brian simpson
Yeah, a lot of people got rich during the pandemic off of being entertaining.
joe rogan
But that's also like, just where we're talking memes is a different kind of comedy.
This is a different kind of entertaining.
Some people are good at it.
brian simpson
Some people are mad about it.
joe rogan
Who's mad?
You get a phone call?
brian simpson
I don't need that shit.
I don't even know who that is.
joe rogan
You don't have your shit sent to go to voicemail if you don't know who they are?
brian simpson
No.
Shit, I should do that, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fucked up.
brian simpson
No, but I thought I had my shit on Do Not Disturb.
joe rogan
Yeah, you go to my voicemail, guess what?
It's not even set up.
Why did it ring, though?
Why?
I don't know.
brian simpson
It's on Do Not Disturb, so they must have called multiple times.
joe rogan
It's probably some scammer trying to tell you about a fortune that you're missing out on.
brian simpson
All the time.
Nobody calls me.
Most of my phone calls, you know, my mom is the only person that calls me.
joe rogan
I like calling people when I'm in the car.
It's funny.
brian simpson
It depends on their age.
People under 35 don't like phone calls.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Fuck no.
Fuck no.
joe rogan
But yet they FaceTime each other all the time.
brian simpson
Right.
To them that's different.
But that's also the next level of intimacy.
joe rogan
Right.
If I could FaceTime you.
brian simpson
Yeah.
We don't know each other like that.
I'm going to FaceTime you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, because that...
You know what it is?
When you FaceTime...
Tom and I talked about this on his podcast.
But it's like...
An unsolicited FaceTime?
When is it appropriate who can do it?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
And we didn't solve it on the pod, but we came up with the solution.
The answer is...
You have to have seen my dick or interacted with my dick.
For you to just FaceTime me unsolicited, that covers wife, kids, medical professionals.
That's the only people that should be best friends.
That should be the only people contacting me, FaceTime, without warning me first.
joe rogan
Yeah, if it's someone that's a casual acquaintance and they FaceTime, unless they have a good friend of yours with you.
brian simpson
Yeah, because if you FaceTime me, that means I can't do anything else while I'm talking to you.
Right.
You know, if I'm just talking to you audio, I can be still doing other stuff.
But FaceTime is a commitment.
It's like, okay, I'm taking your time and, you know, you can't multitask.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
So what is this about?
I just wanted to see your face.
That's not good enough.
Only FaceTime me if it's something for me to see.
We don't need to be looking at each other to talk to each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, and FaceTime, they can drag on, too.
And you're holding that thing up in front of me, like, okay.
I gotta go.
I'm tired of doing this.
brian simpson
Man, I stopped trying to think of clever little lies.
I was like, hey, man, I'm gonna go ahead and get up off of here.
joe rogan
How do you FaceTime on an Android?
brian simpson
What do you mean?
joe rogan
When someone FaceTimes you, do you panic?
brian simpson
No, no, no.
So if I get a FaceTime from an Apple thing, I can just click a link and FaceTime them.
joe rogan
But does it look shitty?
brian simpson
But Google has Google Meet and then there's Discord.
I mean, not Discord.
What was the shit that got popular during the pandemic?
joe rogan
Zoom.
brian simpson
But usually Google has Google Meet.
And if not, I get a link and I just go anyway.
I don't think I can do it the other way around.
I don't think I can send you a Google Meet link.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
I don't think so.
joe rogan
That seems like silly.
jamie vernon
That's why I figured out thumbs up or liking the text messages on both of us now.
brian simpson
Yeah?
jamie vernon
Finally thumbs up a green message.
joe rogan
Well, it's just Apple.
It's just Apple holding that walled garden, right?
They won't allow you to send iMessages on any other device.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Then you would just get a Samsung phone and send iMessages to your Apple friends.
brian simpson
Alright, I'm gonna try to FaceTime you from here.
joe rogan
Okay.
Don't call it FaceTime, though, because it's a bullshit Google thing.
Stop lying to yourself.
brian simpson
Alright, I think this is it, right?
joe rogan
Okay, good.
brian simpson
Okay, I sent you the invite.
Did you get it?
joe rogan
Nope.
jamie vernon
It is weird.
Some apps, you get a phone call on an app and it just shows up like your phone's ringing and you're like, hold on, what is this?
Someone's calling me from WhatsApp?
How the fuck that happened?
brian simpson
Oh, see, I can't initiate it.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
Seems like it's not working.
joe rogan
It's not working.
It sucks.
brian simpson
Not working.
joe rogan
How close have you come to switching to the dark side?
brian simpson
Honestly?
I really, really thought about it the other day.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Because my cat went missing for a day.
joe rogan
Oh, it didn't have an air tag.
brian simpson
Right.
Well, the bitch won't wear a collar.
She's wearing, like, anti-control measures.
You know what I'm saying?
But there is one.
There is a certain kind of collar that I could force her to keep on.
Like, she would fucking hate it.
But...
There's just way more options.
Because the way AirTags...
Because Samsung has this version of AirTags called SmartTags.
But the way they work is they don't actually have GPS on themselves.
They just connect to any nearby Samsung or Apple device.
And there's way more iPhones around.
So it'll ping and it'll let the nearest iPhone device...
And it's all connected to a network.
So Apple can tell me...
Basically, if you get an invite going, your AirTag is here.
It means someone with an iPhone walked past that place.
Someone else with an Apple product was nearby.
That's all it can tell you. - Really? - Yeah.
So when you get the last location of an AirTag thing, it just means there was an Apple product near that shit.
So in America, Apple has the domination.
So it's like if I had put a Samsung AirTag on her collar, it would be a little bit.
It's just less chances that I'll get an accurate location of where she is.
I really seriously thought about it because I'm serious about my cat.
I love that bitch.
But I just, just the whole ecosystem.
joe rogan
Also, you don't want your cat to have to wear a collar if it's going to piss her off.
She's wild.
brian simpson
Bruh, she don't like it.
She don't even like, she don't like being constrained in any way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Nah, all that sniffy stuff.
And people try to come over like, no, I'm real good with cats.
And they pick her up.
Fuck off me, bitch.
I try to tell them this cat's different.
They got to sedate her at the vet.
Yeah, just to do basic shit.
They gotta sedate her.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian simpson
Yeah, she's wild.
I give her CBD drops before we go up in there.
Because she don't play that shit.
And I get it.
I'm like, she wild.
joe rogan
She's a wild cat.
brian simpson
She's wild.
She's wild, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't put a collar on her anyway.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
brian simpson
Like I said, she a smart girl.
She's been going outside for years.
She knows what to be scared of.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's not a whole lot of coyotes in Austin proper either.
It's really out in the hills.
brian simpson
Yeah, but you know what though?
No, because I forget.
joe rogan
They got Ron White's dog.
brian simpson
Remember that documentary I told you about the coy wolves?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brian simpson
Where they were...
They were talking about how there are coyotes in every major city.
They're so good at staying in the shadows and hiding, but they're everywhere.
joe rogan
There's a great book on it called Coyote America.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
They're everywhere, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I had the author on the other day.
It's really, it's an amazing story.
brian simpson
And are they, are they just a, why don't they kill them?
Is that a huge part of the ecosystem?
joe rogan
They're just smart.
This is the thing, like, when they killed off the wolves, the wolves were the one thing that was kind of keeping the coyotes, what would happen is, gray wolves and coyotes don't breed, but coyotes breed with red wolves, which are East Coast wolves.
So the coy wolves that you see are predominantly They're East Coast wolves that breed with coyotes.
brian simpson
But will a gray wolf breed with...
joe rogan
They'll kill coyotes.
brian simpson
But will they breed with a coy wolf?
Will they breed with a mixed...
joe rogan
No.
brian simpson
Oh.
joe rogan
They don't...
It's a different...
It's a different, I guess, a genus or subspecies.
I'm not sure exactly what the term would be, but it's a different animal.
And the coyote, when...
A coyote's basically a wolf.
It's just a small wolf.
And when coyotes get killed, what happens is they do roll call when they scream out at night sometimes.
And when one of them's missing, it forces the female to have more babies.
So they have larger litters.
And then they spread their territory out.
And so through persecution, like when they're trying to get them out of places, what they've made them do is expand to everywhere.
And now coyotes are in every single city in North America.
They're in New York City.
Coyotes are in Boston.
They're everywhere.
And that wasn't the case 50, 60 years ago.
It's like it's happened over the course of time, where they keep trying to say, get out of my lawn, bang, bang, they shoot them, and then the female coyote have more babies, and then you've got a bigger problem.
brian simpson
And they were everywhere in L.A. Yeah.
joe rogan
But the way he was explaining it, it's an evolutionary thing, because gray wolves, when they encountered coyotes, they would kill them.
And so coyotes, in order to compete with the larger, more vicious gray wolves, they just had to have more babies.
So they expand their territory and they have more babies.
So this strategy of, like, persecuting them and chasing them down and killing them, it just makes more coyotes.
brian simpson
But isn't there not enough food for more coyotes?
joe rogan
They're eating everybody's cats.
brian simpson
Right.
joe rogan
They're eating cats and dogs.
I mean, in LA, that's like probably the number one reason why dogs and cats go missing.
It's coyotes.
brian simpson
And if they're hungry enough, they'll walk right up to you and take your dog.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they snatch them off people's leashes.
Especially old people walking a little dog.
What are you gonna do?
It's a little small wolf.
It's a 30 pound wolf.
unidentified
You ain't gonna stop that thing from running off with your poodle.
brian simpson
And the thing is, if you was to hurt one of those coyotes, even if it was attacking your dog, people would still be like...
joe rogan
They'd be mad at you.
Yeah, you'd kill it.
Yeah, people are weird when they don't have a real understanding of what wild animals are.
They just have this anthropomorphized Disney version of what animals are until you encounter one.
You hear about that guy in Arizona a couple days ago that got eaten by a bear?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
He got killed by a bear while he was having coffee.
He's just camping out, having a good time, and this bear just runs up on him and starts fucking him up, and no one had a gun.
They're trying to stop it.
brian simpson
No one had a gun?
joe rogan
No one had a gun.
brian simpson
In Arizona?
joe rogan
In Arizona.
brian simpson
I didn't even know they had bears.
joe rogan
See if you can get the story.
Yeah, they have black bears.
brian simpson
It's like a desert bear?
joe rogan
Black bears.
There's a lot of black bears in Arizona.
Arizona's not all desert.
There's a lot of woods in Arizona.
Arizona man was mauled to death by a black bear in a rare unprovoked attack.
So he's just out there camping and the guy just fucking drinking his coffee and this bear runs up on him.
From multiple witness accounts and preliminary investigation of the scene, Mr. Jackson had been sitting having a coffee at a table on his property where he was building a home.
Oh, I thought he was camping.
Oh, so that's what the camper is.
So the camper is just like where he's operating on.
The sheriff's office said in a Facebook post, adding, Oh, so some guy did shoot him.
But unfortunately, at that time, Mr. Jackson succumbed to his horrible injuries.
Oh, my God.
That's the thing about black bears.
Black bears are more likely to be predatory attacks.
brian simpson
But imagine not starting with the gun.
I mean, that's the first thing.
joe rogan
You gotta probably run back to his house and get the gun.
Maybe the gun was in a safe.
brian simpson
That's tough.
How does a bear catch you unawares?
joe rogan
They can do it, man, if they're hungry.
So if that bear was predatory, that means that bear was really hungry.
brian simpson
So it was like sneaking?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They smell you.
Maybe he was cooking.
brian simpson
Imagine a stealthy bear.
That's one of the scariest things on the planet.
joe rogan
Well, if the dude had coffee, maybe he had breakfast before he had coffee and the smell of the breakfast was coming out of his little camper.
That's how you get when they bait bears.
They burn things and put things in the air to get the bears to come.
Like when they bait them.
When they bait them with like donuts and shit like that.
They do that in certain places where it's heavily wooded areas.
And literally the only way to hunt black bears is to bait them.
So you set up bait stands.
And you consistently feed those bears at that spot all the time.
Like you drop by food, you know, every couple times a week.
brian simpson
Oh, and then they get used to eat them.
joe rogan
Yeah, they know that that's the spot.
And so then you go and you wait in front of that spot.
It's very dirty.
It's a dirty game.
brian simpson
Yeah, but sometimes they're waiting on your ass.
joe rogan
Sometimes they are.
brian simpson
Wasn't it you telling me about the whales that learn how to...?
joe rogan
Orcas.
Yeah, they've learned how to fuck people's boats up.
brian simpson
That's so funny to me.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's kind of hilarious.
Because for all these years we've been mistreating them and finally they're like, enough!
I'm gonna start fucking up your boats.
brian simpson
And they're real smart creatures.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
brian simpson
And they're probably teaching every whale in the ocean how to do that shit.
joe rogan
Probably.
At least the whale's there.
I think it's only one part of the world where this is happening right now, but the problem is the word gets out.
brian simpson
Yeah, they have those songs they sing, and they go hundreds of kilometers, and that's how they tell each other.
Hey, we fucking people up over here?
joe rogan
Did you see that video of the people in a kayak and a whale swallows them?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
These people are, like, they're whale watching, and there's a whale down there, and the whale literally swallows the entire kayak with the people in it.
brian simpson
So they weren't good at it.
joe rogan
And then spits them out.
I mean, the whale doesn't want to eat a kayak.
brian simpson
But how are you whale watching?
You don't see the motherfucker that's...
joe rogan
Well, I think that's how they were whale watching.
Look at this.
Literally just takes the kayak.
Maybe he's annoyed with them.
Maybe the kayaks are fucking up their fishing.
Look at that.
Bro.
brian simpson
That shit just broke your back.
joe rogan
California beach.
Oh yeah, easily could snap your legs in half.
Easily could snap your neck.
brian simpson
But they don't eat meat, right?
No.
joe rogan
But I mean, just the power alone.
How does it know what it's doing?
It's not gentle.
brian simpson
I mean, hopefully you still got hope it'll spit you up.
joe rogan
Hoping.
Yeah.
Hoping.
Yeah, look at that.
That's from a different angle.
Fucking insane.
jamie vernon
This happened three years ago then.
joe rogan
Did it really?
Oh, no kidding.
That's weird.
brian simpson
I'm good on all of this.
joe rogan
That's weird.
brian simpson
I'm good on all of it.
jamie vernon
I know it went viral again, which has been happening with quite a few videos.
joe rogan
So you see all the fish that's there?
You see all the fish that's in the water flapping around?
That's why the birds are there?
See all that splashing shit?
That's fish.
So the whales trying to eat the fish and these cocksuckers in this kind of...
brian simpson
Did they survive?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He spit them out.
brian simpson
Oh, lucky fox.
joe rogan
He wanted the fish.
He didn't want a kayak.
brian simpson
Were any of them seriously injured?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Good question.
Good question.
brian simpson
I don't get these people that need life-risking activities.
joe rogan
They don't think it's life-risking.
brian simpson
No.
I mean, this is in the top ten.
Like, if going down to the bottom of the ocean in an experimental sub is number one, this is on that list.
This is top ten.
joe rogan
Did you see the guy in the kayak that got attacked by a tiger shark?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
He's in the kayak, rowing, and you see this tiger shark just engulf half the side of his boat.
brian simpson
Was he shark-watching?
joe rogan
No, he was fishing.
brian simpson
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
He was fishing in his kayak.
Watch this.
Look, his foot's in the water, too, man.
Right?
Look at this.
Tiger Shark!
unidentified
Tiger Shark ran me!
Holy...
joe rogan
Watch this.
So his foot.
So his foot's in the water, right?
That's the paddle is to the left, but his foot was in there, too.
Look at that thing.
brian simpson
Oh, so he was, like, waving it like this, and he thought the shark thought it was food?
joe rogan
Yeah, the shark probably thought it was a seal or some shit.
They're not smart.
brian simpson
Yeah, bro, I don't get it.
I don't get this desire to thrill-seek.
joe rogan
Look at this in slow motion.
Look at this thing come up.
Fucking A, man.
Thank God that wasn't inflatable, too.
unidentified
Whoa!
jamie vernon
What did I hear?
This is shark shit.
Some sharks attacked a boat recently.
joe rogan
Do you know about the dude in Egypt that got eaten?
brian simpson
I heard about it.
joe rogan
You didn't see that?
brian simpson
It was one of the bottom of the barrel tops, but I didn't know what the fuck they were talking about.
joe rogan
That was a rough one.
This dude is in Egypt and he's off the shore.
Netflix crew's whole boat exploded after back-to-back shark attacks in Hawaii.
Like something out of Jaws.
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
I think they were filming it, so we'll probably not see it until...
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
Oh, Our Planet 2, so that would probably be really good.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I heard it was right out of Jaws.
brian simpson
So it was a shark attack, a shark attack, and then the boat exploded.
joe rogan
Oh, it was attacking the boat.
jamie vernon
Yeah, if it exploded because of the gas, then yeah, that's right out of Jaws.
joe rogan
Is it saying it exploded, or are they saying it just fell apart?
jamie vernon
I think it fell apart.
joe rogan
I think they said a rubber dinghy.
Can you scroll back down a little bit in there?
It says...
Nolan said the crew was only about 328 feet from the shore, so they were able to make it safer to land, though barely.
On land, they patched up the boat and deployed a rubber dinghy.
That was attacked by giant trevalles, marine fishes that can grow up to 6 feet long and weigh more than 100 pounds.
That attack knocked out the dinghy's motor.
What the fuck, man?
jamie vernon
What's going on over there?
joe rogan
The behavior of the sharks they encountered was extremely unusual, Nolan told Radio Times.
They were incredibly hungry, so there might not have been enough natural food and they were just trying anything that came across in the water.
Wow.
unidentified
It said it was just released, so it should be out.
jamie vernon
Let me check.
joe rogan
Let's go to the Egyptian guy, though, first.
The Egyptian guy's rough, because he's screaming for his dad.
He's, like, yelling, Papa, while he's getting eaten alive by sharks, just, like, 100 yards offshore.
And apparently this area...
Now, we didn't...
Did we find out if that's true?
Someone had told me that that area that they had dumped sheep carcasses into the ocean in that area?
brian simpson
To attract the sharks.
joe rogan
I don't think they did it on purpose.
I think they just wanted to get rid of the sheep carcasses.
brian simpson
Oh, okay.
And the dad was...
unidentified
The dad was on the shore.
brian simpson
Fishing?
joe rogan
No, they were just hanging out at a beach.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
It's at a resort.
brian simpson
Wow.
joe rogan
It's horrible.
And you have to see it.
brian simpson
I want to see it.
Yeah.
Wait a minute, this is a child?
joe rogan
No, it's a young man.
brian simpson
Oh, okay.
I can watch a young man die.
joe rogan
It's a rough one.
Here it is.
Warning graphic content.
And it is fucking graphic.
So this dude...
Is that the dude?
jamie vernon
I think so.
That's not graphic.
joe rogan
That's him before?
Oh, no.
brian simpson
Oh, this is sad.
Okay, come on.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's sad.
Where's the video?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, they're not showing the video of the actual attack?
Oh, they're gonna mummify the shark.
brian simpson
What's the purpose of that?
joe rogan
That's the video.
So here's the dudes out here.
jamie vernon
The music is from the beach.
joe rogan
It's a little dark.
Look at that.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Horrible, man.
You hear him yelling, Papa?
unidentified
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Look at all the red in the water, man.
It's so fucking horrible.
unidentified
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Oh my god!
You see, just grab him and take him under.
brian simpson
No, I'm good.
unidentified
Oh lord.
brian simpson
That's a lot.
unidentified
That's a terrifying way to go.
joe rogan
What's worse, that or the sub people?
brian simpson
That.
That's worse.
That's worse.
joe rogan
Sub people would be down there for days.
brian simpson
Because the sub people either died instantly or they died falling asleep, running out of air.
But that right there, there's terror mixed in with that.
Oh, but that's terror being trapped in a...
joe rogan
It's also terror that your loved ones are watching you get eaten.
brian simpson
Yeah, but the one in the sub is dying with his son.
joe rogan
Oh!
That's bad, too.
And it was probably his idea, son.
brian simpson
Yeah, he probably talked to me too.
joe rogan
I'm gonna take you on an adventure.
You're gonna be a real man, like your father.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm gonna go to the bottom of the ocean like a fucking explorer.
brian simpson
Man, I don't know.
That's tough.
That's tough.
joe rogan
What's about it, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I'm reading about the shark attack in Hawaii with the Netflix crew.
They were in an area where they were tracking baby albatross chicks, and they had an idea to get a good shot of tiger sharks who were about to feed on them.
So they took two smaller inflatable boats out.
And that's what got attacked.
An inflatable boat.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
That's why they exploded.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so stupid.
jamie vernon
It says the crew panicked and then made an emergency landing on the sand.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
And I still don't know if there's video of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, sharks are feeding.
Get the fuck out of the water.
brian simpson
Yeah, especially don't go out in a boat that they can destroy.
unidentified
Dude.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, how many times do people have to see people in shark cages where the shark just slams into the cage and blows it to pieces?
brian simpson
I don't know, man.
I mean, because look, this is my thing.
The universe is trying to kill us.
Like, just the natural mathematics of the universe are deadly to us.
You being on land is like one of the handfuls of advantages you have as a human being.
Don't leave land.
Anything where you gotta leave the surface is you're taking unnecessary risk that goes against everything.
Your one advantage is on land.
You got all the disadvantages in the water, in space.
10,000 feet deep.
It's like, just stay on Earth.
joe rogan
But those surfers, the way they describe that feeling of riding that wave out there on the power of the ocean.
brian simpson
You know what I've never heard somebody describe?
unidentified
What?
brian simpson
What it's like to get eaten by a shark.
Because they never survive.
They always did.
I don't think that's worth it.
But you know what?
You're right.
I don't know what catching a wave is like.
You know?
Because people feel the same way.
They see us doing stand-up and they go, I could never do that.
It's so terrifying.
It's like...
It's pretty easy.
joe rogan
It's pretty fun.
brian simpson
To you, right?
Yeah, but to a surfer, sharks are nothing.
You have no idea what it's like.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
And I can understand that feeling.
joe rogan
I bet that has to be what it's like, because they're all kind of peaceful people.
It's interesting.
There's something about surfing that just brings about, like, there's a spiritual connection to the ocean.
brian simpson
Oh, no, they're not all peaceful.
Surfers?
joe rogan
Well, they're violent.
brian simpson
A lot of surfers are trash, right.
Really, they're real protective about...
joe rogan
But the really good ones, the ones that I've met that are really good, they're like, that's a special mindset.
brian simpson
Yeah, okay.
joe rogan
Like the Shane Dorians and the Laird Hamiltons.
brian simpson
Yeah, they do come up.
Yeah.
All those extremist people.
Remember the guy, I know you had him on, the free climbing guy?
joe rogan
Oh, Alex Honnold.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian simpson
People like that, they all pretty much...
joe rogan
Calm.
Kelly Slater, same sort of thing.
Beast surfer, calm, chill, dude.
Probably the humility that comes with being in the ocean all the time.
I mean, if you're literally floating on a piece of styrofoam, that's fucking...
Riding a wave in the ocean.
You have so much humility because you're completely powerless.
All you're doing is using your own balance to try to ride the energy of this insane force that's behind you.
You can't really think You're awesome.
Because no matter how awesome you are as a human being, you're nothing compared to just the power of the thing you ride every day.
brian simpson
And you have to be able to be calm in one of the most terrifying situations.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to keep your shit together when there's a hundred foot wave over you.
brian simpson
Can't be a surfer that panics.
joe rogan
No, you got to be able to hold that.
brian simpson
Yeah.
I feel the same way watching The Fighters, where I'm like, yo, how did you keep it together when like...
You've been in that choke hold for three seconds.
Two more seconds and you're out.
You're going to lose consciousness.
And you're calm.
You're still working your hands.
It's like they're still thinking when most people would panic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
I'm impressed by anybody.
I'm impressed by any expertise.
I'm obsessed with it.
I watch a YouTube video of a motherfucker just putting bricks together.
joe rogan
Me too.
brian simpson
You see it?
I'm like, that motherfucker's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, carpentry.
brian simpson
That's 20 years of experience.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, I love it.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too.
brian simpson
Yeah, expertise.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love watching people do things with their hands.
Craftsmanship, making watches and shit, little tiny microscope and they're fucking moving little pieces and gears around.
I love shit like that.
brian simpson
Just somebody that's dedicated their life to something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Even schemas and scammers.
That's why I like a good bank heist.
You hear the real life stories of different heists and shit.
Yeah.
Some people have outsmarted everybody.
joe rogan
That's why...
When it comes to bank heists, that's why I'm interested in this SBF thing.
brian simpson
What is that?
jamie vernon
Apparently, I just looked at it, and we might have got memed out of the actual headline.
The memes on the Twitter space were going that he might get all charges dropped.
joe rogan
No, but he got five dropped.
jamie vernon
13 down to eight now, and he's still going on trial.
joe rogan
Which ones did they get rid of?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
They could have maybe got overzealous with so many charges that they just kept throwing things down, and now this team got it down to accurate charges or something.
joe rogan
Right, good point.
Because I'm sure when they go to bring in a person like that, they probably double and triple down on charges.
jamie vernon
One article says it's been worded as temporarily suspended charges.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brian simpson
Man, that motherfucker ain't going to prison, man.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
Maybe he'll go to a nice country cup for a little bit.
brian simpson
He's a billionaire, right?
joe rogan
Not anymore.
But he gave away a lot, though.
He gave away a lot to the Democratic Party.
brian simpson
But being a...
I've never seen a billionaire go to prison.
joe rogan
Oh, what about Bernie Madoff?
brian simpson
Okay, so let me...
As a caveat, the only time I've ever seen someone with that much money go to prison is when they fuck with other rich people's money.
joe rogan
That's what this guy did.
brian simpson
Bernie Madoff, the guy from Enron, was he fucking with rich people?
joe rogan
Elizabeth Holmes.
Yeah, that's a good one.
She was sentenced to 135 months, 11 years, 3 months in federal prison for defrauding investors in Theranos.
brian simpson
And she's going to prison out here.
She's going to prison in Texas.
joe rogan
Is she?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's not going to be...
She's probably still going to go to one of those nice ones.
joe rogan
11 years.
And she just had a couple of kids.
She pumped out a couple of kids before she went in, which is crazy.
brian simpson
Right.
Imagine having babies knowing you face in prison.
joe rogan
I think she's a sociopath.
brian simpson
Of course she's a sociopath.
joe rogan
And I think people like that would think if I have a kid, maybe they're less likely to lock me up for a long time because they know I'm a mother.
brian simpson
And listen, y'all might not want to hear this out, but listen.
Every billionaire should have a couple of hood dudes on staff because there's a certain kind of bullshit that only they can detect.
You know what I'm saying?
If you'd have had a Freddie Gibbs with you when you talked to that bitch, or like David Lucas, he would have known right away she was full of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, a lot of people knew she was full of shit.
brian simpson
Well, right, but not the rich guys.
joe rogan
Even people inside the company knew she was full of shit.
brian simpson
Yeah, she knows how to fool people with money.
That's her whole skill.
You got to have somebody around you.
They do that in Japan.
Their culture is so much like respect and bowing and respect.
But so they have an American, like a designated American on staff at the big companies.
Because they know he'll say shit that everybody else won't.
unidentified
Ah.
brian simpson
So he's around to be like, that's bullshit.
People are like, ah, he's American, but he's right though.
But no one else, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
I watch a thing on Netflix where they play the black boxes.
They do reenactments of plane crashes from the 80s.
And one of the problems back then was that the captain of an airplane was like the captain of a ship.
You didn't question him.
So half of the crashes were because some lower person wasn't empowered to say something.
joe rogan
Do you know that's why they switched Korean airlines?
They started making them speak English?
brian simpson
Right.
joe rogan
Well, whoa.
Yeah, because in Korea, there's a very specific way of talking to people that are higher above you or more respectful.
And then there's boundaries, cultural boundaries, that are very difficult to transcend.
But when you're speaking English, They don't have, that sort of same hierarchy doesn't exist in the language.
brian simpson
Okay, right.
joe rogan
And so they realize, this is from, I think it was Malcolm Gladwell's book, where they describe how they, to get over this problem, they started making them speak English.
brian simpson
Oh, I see.
Is that true?
joe rogan
Make sure that's accurate.
brian simpson
So like in Korean, you say thank you differently to a superior than you would to a stranger than you would to a regular person.
I get what you're saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, you wouldn't question the superior if they said, you know, we're in this direction.
You're like, no, we're wrong.
This is awful.
brian simpson
It's a lot like that in Japanese companies.
So a lot of, not all of them, but a lot of them, they have an American for that reason.
jamie vernon
This is his book's illustration for the examples, so I don't know that that makes this better, but this is what the book said, I guess.
joe rogan
So, at the end of the 90s, Korean Air had more plane crashes than almost any other airline around the globe.
Cockpit miscommunication has been a persistent factor in these accidents.
For example, the Korean Air Flight 801 crash was attributed to the pilot's decision to land despite the junior officer's disagreement.
Evidence of high power distance, a culture that denotes Interesting.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because if you were like, motherfucker, we out of fuel!
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
They would be like, oh, she's right, but when we land, you're fired.
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
You don't talk like that.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
It's like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
Well, it's just the culture is very different.
You know, Korean culture is very different.
unidentified
Man, they do a lot of things great over there.
brian simpson
They barbecue.
joe rogan
Oh, they make great barbecue.
brian simpson
They make some goddamn good barbecue over there, man.
joe rogan
They're good at kicking.
brian simpson
They're good at kicking.
Gaming.
Half of the...
I know you're not into esports, but half of the fucking esports teams are Korean.
unidentified
Really?
brian simpson
Like, it'll be the London team, but half of them Korean.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
So they recruit them?
It's like Korean, Russian...
You know, the Chinese always have their team, but most of the players on the top teams in the world of all esports are Korean players.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brian simpson
Because over there, there's not shame involved in the culture.
They literally have gaming cafes where you don't even own the computer.
You just go in and sign in and play.
joe rogan
Look at this guy's getting a massage.
The elite open school in Seoul.
Many students show up to morning classes sleep-deprived after hours of gaming.
So you should see how they're getting wrecked at night.
brian simpson
Yeah.
They're genuine stars over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a real career path, which is pretty wild.
brian simpson
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Now, what game are they playing?
brian simpson
I think that game is League of Legends.
Yeah, that's League of Legends.
jamie vernon
StarCraft was the other one they used to buy.
brian simpson
I think League had the largest prize for World Champion.
joe rogan
What's crazy is the audiences.
Massive audiences to see this.
brian simpson
Yeah, and they have the storylines and all of that.
joe rogan
You see the video where the dude dies gaming?
He just fucking conks out and dies.
He's leaning back.
People thought he was asleep and he was dead.
He just gamed until he died.
brian simpson
Because it's something...
There's something about...
Because the best games have...
They combine a power fantasy with an enjoyable gameplay loop.
joe rogan
This is not 2015. This is real recent.
Oh, wow.
Actually, it might not have been real recent.
brian simpson
Three days straight?
jamie vernon
That's how the man dies gaming and I was...
joe rogan
No, this was like the guy died in his chair.
There's a video of him in the chair and he just leans back.
And his head falls back and it looks like he's sleeping.
And he's just dead.
brian simpson
That's crazy.
Three days is a lot.
joe rogan
It might have been one of them Instagram things where I don't even know when it was.
brian simpson
The thing is, I'm not good if I don't wash my ass.
I don't feel clean.
My aim is off and everything.
You gotta take a break.
joe rogan
It's not healthy behavior.
And people have let their children starve to death.
brian simpson
But I love it.
It's my...
It's my side pastime, the thing I do when I'm trying to relax.
Like Diablo 4 just came out.
That shit took my fucking life off.
I took three days off and I played it for three days.
And I was like, okay, now I gotta focus back because I'm filming my special soon.
I filmed my special at the Mothership.
In August.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm excited.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
I'm excited.
brian simpson
So I'm like, I've got to lock in on a special, but I was like, I love this game, and I'm just going to take some days and just enjoy it.
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Hell yeah.
You're just slaying demons from hell.
joe rogan
I haven't seen the graphics in the new Diablo.
brian simpson
Oh, it's incredible.
joe rogan
Let me see.
Diablo 4. Show me some.
Yeah, comics and gaming, man.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's either gaming or wrestling or something.
joe rogan
Something.
It's always something.
brian simpson
It's always something where it's a fantasy.
joe rogan
Yeah, fantasy shit.
A lot of comics are into pro wrestling.
brian simpson
In this shit, it's like you're literally slaying hordes of demons from hell.
Depending on how you set up your character, you're hitting them with lightning bolts, you're hitting them with fireballs, you're chopping them to pieces.
joe rogan
Is it overhead perspective?
brian simpson
Yeah, it's overhead perspective.
joe rogan
Oh, so this is what you're seeing when you're playing?
brian simpson
Yeah, this is what you're seeing.
I think this guy, he's a barbarian.
unidentified
So you don't see a lot of barbarians.
joe rogan
Now, wouldn't it be more exciting to do this as a first player?
brian simpson
They did that with Skyrim.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brian simpson
Yeah, they kind of did.
But Diablo's kind of a different thing because...
joe rogan
Jesus, look at all the numbers.
What do those numbers mean?
brian simpson
So the numbers are how much damage you're doing, but the different colors mean different hits.
So like the yellow is a critical hit.
It just means you have a chance...
Whatever you hit, you have a chance to do critical damage, which is like bonus 150% damage.
joe rogan
So what did you just do out of that box?
Did he just grab some stuff?
brian simpson
Yeah, the whole thing is you're killing monsters, they're dropping items, or you're opening chests, they're dropping items, the items make you stronger, or give you different powers, and you're trying to combine the right items to do bigger and bigger numbers.
joe rogan
And the more you play, the more items you get, so the more power you get.
brian simpson
Right, the more powerful items you get.
joe rogan
So you get addicted.
brian simpson
Yep, and there's gambling.
joe rogan
This is ridiculous.
brian simpson
Well, this is a real, real high-level guy, real deep into the game.
I mean, he's level 78. What level are you?
unidentified
76. Jesus, so you're right up there.
brian simpson
Yeah, the max level's 100. Wow.
joe rogan
There's only 4,000 people that have hit level 100. So are those dudes chasing him, or are they fighting with him?
brian simpson
They're chasing him.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
brian simpson
Yeah, nobody's on his team in this.
But you can play with...
I play with Frank Castillo.
And sometimes if I'm on and he signs on and he sees I'm playing, he can just jump right in.
joe rogan
Oh, and so you guys can team up.
brian simpson
Right, we can team up.
We can be on my team.
joe rogan
And you talk shit to each other?
brian simpson
Yeah, or we coordinate, for example, like...
You can't really see it because he's killing them so fast, but sometimes he hits the monster and they turn purple.
Purple means they're vulnerable.
It means they take more damage, but you can have other skills that do other shit when the monster's vulnerable, so I'll make everybody vulnerable, and Frank has some skill that exploits that, and so we kind of team it up.
Little stuff like that.
joe rogan
Sounds like a great way to waste your life.
brian simpson
It's such a waste of time, yeah.
joe rogan
It seems so addictive.
brian simpson
But it's fun.
It's also very fun.
And so, you know, they didn't send me no merch.
I would like some merch, Diablo people.
joe rogan
They're so good at making things, like, the more you play it, the more you get.
brian simpson
Well, that's what I was telling you, is the...
The perfect games are the ones where it's a power fantasy and a fun loop.
Because basically, you're playing hours and hours and you're doing the same thing over and over again.
You're just killing hordes of monsters.
But the reward...
For that is spaced out just enough.
Because when you level up, it goes ding!
And your guy goes ah!
And then everything dies.
Everything around you dies.
Whenever you level up, everything dies.
So it's like, it's this big event and you level up and you're like, oh shit, now I can go put points into this power.
Because there's a whole skill tree.
So you unlock points to put in the skill tree and you can change how your skills act and all of this other shit.
So it's like the options, the things to do are so varied and the loop is fun and you get rewarded at just the right intervals in that loop where you want to come back from one more dungeon, one more hilltop.
joe rogan
And then the next thing you know is 12 hours later.
brian simpson
Next thing you know is hours later.
joe rogan
I'm getting anxiety just hearing you talk about it.
brian simpson
But I don't really have that addictive of a personality.
I can stop whenever I want.
joe rogan
That's good.
That's good.
Because Duncan didn't.
Duncan was gone for long periods of time.
brian simpson
The first game like that was EverQuest.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what I heard, yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, EverQuest and then WoW kind of took that over, but EverQuest originally, I never got into that because I seen it ruin people's marriages.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And they came out with EverQuest 2. I seen that fuck people up.
You know, World of Warcraft, I stayed away from it.
I seen it fuck people up.
And Diablo 2 fucked me up.
And Diablo 3 was okay.
I didn't really play it that much, but...
This one has the same little something.
It's just the perfect mix of all those things.
And it makes you...
It's just like casinos.
Casinos know...
That's why they have you put...
You don't put money in machines anymore.
You put money on a card.
And that card is on your account.
So when you go sit down at that machine, they know, oh, you haven't played today.
You know what I mean?
You put your card in that machine and they let you, you know, the four rolls are random and that fifth one you win a little.
Because legally, someone has to win the jackpot every X amount of rolls.
They can go X amount of rolls, someone has to win.
So they set the machine up like that, but everything in between, it's just a game playing with you.
You win a little, you lose a little.
You play again, you win a lot more than that, but not a significant amount, and that is enough to hook you.
Now you're playing more and more, and you win a little, win a little, win a little, but if you sit there long enough, you're going to be out of money.
And that's the whole point.
It's all set up to take your money.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you people voluntarily sign up for it.
Just for that reward.
brian simpson
The rate the lights flash, all that.
It goes into all that.
The color of the room, the way the room smells, the way it's set up.
It's a maze.
You ever go to a casino for the first time, it's fucking confusing as fuck.
It's supposed to be that.
Everything's set up for you to spend money and feel comfortable doing it.
joe rogan
And get trapped in there.
brian simpson
That's why they walk up and give you a couple drinks.
Yeah, lower your inhibitions.
Take a chance.
joe rogan
Did you see the girl at the poker machine that just pissed herself?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
You ever see that?
Apparently, people at casinos say it happens all the time.
People are gambling and they don't want to get up, so they just pee.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is wild.
brian simpson
A gambling addiction.
joe rogan
Look at this lady.
She's sitting there.
She looks good, too.
Look, she's just pissing.
She's pissing while she's on the phone.
jamie vernon
Granted, she's probably shit-faced too.
joe rogan
I guess, but still.
You don't know you're pissing on the floor?
jamie vernon
Probably doesn't.
joe rogan
I think people just piss.
jamie vernon
The shitting is worse.
People are walking through grocery stores and shit falls out of their leg.
joe rogan
Oh, I've seen that.
brian simpson
Like they're running a marathon?
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw one where this guy pulled his pants down at a store and just shot rocket out of his asshole.
brian simpson
How are they shitting on that submarine?
Can you imagine that?
That's themskies, because you're not flushing that toilet.
jamie vernon
I bet your anxiety is still higher, just not...
brian simpson
Nah, my dude.
That would be torture for me.
I'd be like, kill me first.
joe rogan
How much water do they have?
I mean, you might get dehydrated down there, too.
You might run out of water.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you can't go very many days without water.
brian simpson
I think three.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, how many days?
brian simpson
No, seven.
I think seven is the max.
You can go without water.
jamie vernon
Fuck.
brian simpson
You can probably make it like a month without food.
joe rogan
You can make it longer without food if you're fat.
brian simpson
If you're real fat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
But without water?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
You're done skiing.
joe rogan
You're done skiing.
brian simpson
But it's a lot easier to find fresh water.
Or I'll say you could even risk it and drink contaminated water in an emergency, right?
joe rogan
I guess.
brian simpson
It's not just food everywhere.
jamie vernon
I guess.
I'm looking up updates.
A retired Navy captain just brought up the point about how cold it probably is down there.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
jamie vernon
Because that doesn't probably have tons of insulation.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
jamie vernon
And where they're at, though, it says the water entirely is around the ship is at freezing or slightly below.
When they exhale, their breath condenses.
There's frost on the inside of the parts of the submarine.
They're all together trying to conserve body heat.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
And they're running low on oxygen and breathing each other.
joe rogan
And here's the thing.
Even if they find them, how do you get it up?
How do you get it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they'd have to tow it up or something.
brian simpson
Yeah, because when we started the podcast, you said how many hours left?
jamie vernon
They're down to their last day.
They have until like 5 in the morning right now.
It's like 12 hours.
brian simpson
They have until 5 in the morning until they're out of oxygen.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, but what I'm saying is You have to account for how long it would take to bring them to the top and open the fucking thing.
So it's like they don't have till 5 in the morning.
They need to be found and on their way to the top for them to have till 5 a.m.
joe rogan
And what are the strategies?
Is there any article on the strategies that they're using?
jamie vernon
I remember looking that up last night.
I was even contemplating, do they even have a machine or device or anything that could go even get them besides a drone?
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
Man, I don't know that there even is.
joe rogan
So what the fuck are they doing?
Are they just trying to find them so they can communicate with them?
Are they trying to find them so they can use the power of the remote controller to bring them to the surface?
brian simpson
I don't even think they know where they are still.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
Yeah, like I think it says that they lost communication like an hour and a half after they departed.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
So they weren't even all the way down then, right?
Or that happened right when they hit the bottom.
jamie vernon
The entire voyage is supposed to take two and a half hours.
The Polar Prince lost contact with the Titan approximately one hour and 45 minutes into the trip, triggering a desperate search for the now-missing sub.
brian simpson
And I remember the reporter said it was lost for five hours when he went last year.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So it happens.
brian simpson
It has happened.
And they didn't add a transponder.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Or whatever they could add.
jamie vernon
His voyage lasted ten hours.
The passengers were given sandwiches and water.
During that vessel, the compass was acting very weird and the passengers had only about 20 minutes to view the Titanic wreckage.
brian simpson
The compass acted weird?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro, imagine if there's an alien ship down there that's fucking them up.
brian simpson
Bro, but if your comp is going crazy, you need to get the fuck out of there.
joe rogan
Instantly.
brian simpson
I don't know the science of what that means, but that's never good.
joe rogan
Can't be good.
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
Some crazy magnets are in there.
brian simpson
What's going on?
Or some kind of pulse from the earth.
Who the fuck knows?
unidentified
Who the fuck knows?
brian simpson
Here's what's so wild about all this shit, Dojo.
They went down there.
To look at the wreckage from screens inside, from cameras outside.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, there was one little tiny hole above the toilet for looking out, but you can't see anything down there.
You know what I mean?
Their main thing was to watch.
You could have just sent down a drone and watched the screen on the ship.
joe rogan
You didn't have to be in the ship.
brian simpson
You don't have to be in the water, no.
You're down there for no reason.
Just so you can say you was there.
I'd have just lied about it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want to lie about it either.
brian simpson
About being down there?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just stupid.
brian simpson
Yeah, but if you're an alternative to getting on the motherfuckers?
joe rogan
If I had to choose, I'd lie about it.
If I have to lie, no one's getting hurt by that lie.
brian simpson
I'll tell you what I'm not doing.
I'm not getting on a ship that's piloted by a motherfucker that ain't on the ship.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
The pilot, the driver got to take all the risks I'm taking.
joe rogan
Yes.
And also, how about have that ship been able to drive itself, too?
brian simpson
Think about this.
What if they got to the technology?
Well, actually, we probably do have the technology where your commercial flight can be flown by a pilot that's That never leaves the city.
They're flying it remotely.
joe rogan
I bet they could do that now.
brian simpson
And then when you break a certain line, another pilot at the landing city takes over and they land.
But would you be comfortable with that?
joe rogan
No.
brian simpson
Fuck no.
joe rogan
Fuck no.
brian simpson
Get your ass on this plane.
You got to be up here with me.
If you in charge, you got to be up here with me.
joe rogan
Not only that, why wouldn't they have a system where when they lose communication with the sub, the sub just rises to the top?
brian simpson
Which has happened before.
So they've lost communication before.
And then they had no black-up plan for what would happen if it happened again.
joe rogan
Why does this scare me more than anything else?
This freaks me out so...
brian simpson
Because you're wealthy?
And they target wealthy people with shit like this?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
I'm not worried that I would do it.
brian simpson
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
No!
Just the idea of...
I have zero desire to do that.
Bro, I'd rather go fishing.
I'd rather go play pool.
brian simpson
I'm not complicated.
Zero!
joe rogan
I mean zero.
Not a fucking chance.
And one of my friends, if you were trying to go, I would do everything that I could.
Not you.
Someone irresponsible.
Someone crazy.
brian simpson
Bro, I don't even play survival video games.
Fuck that.
No, I've survived my whole life.
You know these games where you start out in the woods, all you have is a hatchet?
They're like, yeah, you gotta build a fire and find a shelter.
What the fuck?
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
joe rogan
I'm here to kill demons.
brian simpson
I'll kill demons with magical weaponry, but...
jamie vernon
This is a device that they have the first thing to come find them today.
It's called a Victor 6000. It can go 20,000 feet, which is plenty to get there, but...
brian simpson
But what's it going to do?
That don't look like it can lift anything.
jamie vernon
I'm looking at, like, it shows that they send it out from a ship with some sort of tow rope, and maybe they keep the tow rope, and maybe then they can hook something onto it and tow them both back up, but that's a lot of maybes, I just said.
joe rogan
It's a lot of maybes, and they have to find them.
jamie vernon
And they have to find them.
joe rogan
The amount of area you're talking about is so immense.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this does have some sort of rope.
brian simpson
I mean, honestly, knowing that they lost communication almost right when they hit the bottom, I'm telling you, I think it imploded.
Something leaked.
It was an opening, a crack.
I think they died instantly.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Ooh, do you think they're gonna send down people in subs to see the wreckage of the sub?
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So that'll be the next thing.
People can go visit the Titan.
This is back when they did it wrong.
jamie vernon
Like Mount Everest.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's the billionaire and his son, Frozen, and the Titan.
brian simpson
Don't fuck around then.
And here's...
Bro, here's what...
People comparing it to space, but guess what?
As far as we know, there ain't no monsters in space.
There's monsters all over the bottom of the ocean.
That's crazy.
And that might have been what happened.
Some big-ass thing that they don't see coming...
Hit that motherfucker with its tail.
A whale just fucked your magnetic shit up, flipped you over.
joe rogan
One of the things that's interesting about these UFO sightings is a lot of them are happening over water.
And they're saying these things go into the water and they don't make a splash.
brian simpson
Yeah, but this is my thing about the UFO sightings thing.
It's like...
It's too many smartphones out here for us to not get at least some 1080p.
You know, some clear footage that's not blurry.
Give me some clear videos out here.
joe rogan
True, but have you ever tried filming a bird in the sky?
It's very hard.
brian simpson
True, true.
I saw a thing the other day where I was like, I can't explain what I'm looking at.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if it's a...
Because it might have just been a drone, but it seemed so huge and it seemed like it was going up so high.
But it would have had to have been a commercial drone, not a government one.
And it kept flying up and then moving to the side and then floating back down.
And then flying way up to the point when I first saw it, I thought it was a plane.
But then it started moving completely backwards.
joe rogan
They make some insane drones now.
And they're really fast.
Have you ever seen the drones where they do them through obstacle courses?
brian simpson
Oh, the races?
Oh, that's wild.
That's entertaining, too.
joe rogan
That's entertaining.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's going to be real popular in the future.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
Because these things are getting better and better.
Have you ever seen that one where that drone takes off at insane rates of speed?
They have this drone, and it's hovering, and it goes...
Watch this.
jamie vernon
I just clicked a video to find the fastest drone that you can get.
joe rogan
Let me see what it looks like.
Has it got any volume on this?
brian simpson
You can't even see that motherfucker.
jamie vernon
It's almost 200 miles an hour.
joe rogan
Wow, listen to the sound.
Where is it?
Oh, there it is.
God damn, that fucker's fast.
brian simpson
And this camera is on the drone, this one right here.
jamie vernon
Yeah, look at the shape of it.
It looks like a tic-tac.
joe rogan
Whoa.
brian simpson
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
I mean, that's not the same.
joe rogan
It looks like a rocket.
How crazy is that thing can go 200 miles an hour?
Is that the fastest drone?
jamie vernon
What a shitty sound that is.
joe rogan
That's wild.
It sounds like death.
All I have to do is put a gun on that thing.
jamie vernon
I mean, I typed in fastest drone.
brian simpson
Yeah, Hans just bought one of those.
joe rogan
Go to videos.
Fastest drone videos.
jamie vernon
Eight props is faster than that.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at that thing.
Three world's fastest drones.
Let's see.
Show me something, stupid.
Oh, this is a commercial for these drones.
brian simpson
34 minute flight time.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're getting very, very sophisticated.
It's pretty cool.
You know, and then how long after that before they're pilotable?
Where you can get in one of those things and move around in something like that.
brian simpson
Yeah, and then someone else is flying it.
joe rogan
And then someone slams into you in the sky.
Yeah.
brian simpson
Why are we so fascinated with death?
joe rogan
Because it's inevitable, and we're afraid of it, so we like to get close to it, get a little juice, and then go back to life.
That's what those climbers are doing.
brian simpson
Well, have you ever really lived if you didn't almost die?
Are you really an adult until you've almost died a couple times?
joe rogan
You are still an adult, but you do not have the same experiences.
brian simpson
If I'm in a room full of grown men, and I just go, everybody tell a story about the last time you almost died.
Everyone will have a couple.
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
It's sort of a rite of passage, but it's like, if you're living life properly, it's almost inevitable.
joe rogan
But then you can push it too far, and you're some wild climber dude.
brian simpson
Yeah, you're one of these motherfuckers.
You climb a mountain with no ropes.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen that documentary, The Alpinist?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
Oh, you gotta watch it.
brian simpson
The Alpinist?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Is that a tree person?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
What is that?
What is it?
brian simpson
Oh, the Alps.
jamie vernon
An arborist.
joe rogan
Arborist, yeah.
Yeah, alpinist is someone who's climbing insane alpine mountains.
And this fucking dude was like the one that all the other climbers were like, what the fuck?
Like, he was just crazy.
And he, at the end of his life, was climbing ice.
brian simpson
Is this Netflix?
joe rogan
Um, I don't know.
brian simpson
They're always weird looking.
joe rogan
He was free climbing for a while.
He's an interesting dude.
He was an interesting dude, I should say.
Just listening to the recordings of him.
But he became obsessed with all these, you know, top-notch climbers, and he did free solo climbing.
Then after a while he started doing ice climbing.
So he's climbing with these ice picks, and he's making his way up glaciers.
So he's climbing, like, stalagmites that are hanging off the side of a cliff.
He's climbing them in the documentary.
It's so hard to watch.
Your hands start sweating.
brian simpson
And did he die during this?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And they found him.
I mean, they know where he is.
They never even recovered him.
The glacier just kind of consumed his body.
But they found where his body is.
I don't think they recovered him, right?
Is that correct?
I think that happens with a lot of those guys.
It's like you can't even recover him.
Because to recover him, you would have to risk everybody's life to go recover a dead body.
brian simpson
But man, they be living though.
joe rogan
I guess.
brian simpson
They be living.
joe rogan
I think a lot of those guys, there's something wrong with them.
And that's the way they feel things.
I think regular life is just flat and boring, and the only way they feel is to do something insanely risky.
brian simpson
I slightly disagree.
I think some people are just born in the wrong time, you know?
unidentified
Hmm.
brian simpson
If we were already at the point where we could explore space, these would be the starship captains.
They were the guys that would get on a ship and try to map the globe.
It was beneficial.
It's just now we're so comfortable.
They have to go find and seek out things, but their kind of person is necessary.
joe rogan
Explorers.
brian simpson
Yeah, explorers.
People that would take the chances just for the thrill.
We do need them.
We just don't need them right this second.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are those people that would just get in boats and try to find new land back in the day.
brian simpson
Yeah, those are the people you pay to make the first hundred trips in the Titan to make sure it's safe.
joe rogan
Imagine the people that made it to the Hawaiian Islands in little boats that they made.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, they came from the Polynesian Islands, and they made their way across the fucking ocean to Hawaii.
brian simpson
Yeah, they were like, oh, we hit the jackpot.
joe rogan
Oh my god, they hit the jackpot.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they did that shit thousands of years ago.
That's what's crazy.
brian simpson
Yeah, with some ballsy-ass people out there.
joe rogan
Ballsy-ass people.
brian simpson
Fucking, yeah, real ballsy.
joe rogan
You find an island in the middle of the ocean is a bunch of cool-ass people living on it.
brian simpson
And the thing is, when you take off, you don't know where you're going.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
And how you'll survive when you get there.
joe rogan
See, talk about people that are in touch with nature.
People that live in Hawaii.
You're very vulnerable out there.
Isolated.
brian simpson
Any other nature people fascinate me.
People at home, out in the wilderness.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, because they're right.
You know, the doomsday prepping people?
They're right.
They're just not right right now.
joe rogan
Right, exactly.
brian simpson
But it's coming to an end at some point.
It might not even be why they're alive.
But...
Those are going to be the people you're looking for.
You watch Last of Us?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
It's like, remember the old gay man with the shelter?
It's like, yeah, if the apocalypse comes, they're going to be sitting pretty.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, and the rest of us are going to be like, why if I... Yeah, but then those people go after those people.
brian simpson
Oh, well, yeah.
joe rogan
People who weren't prepared.
They try to find the people that aren't prepared.
What's interesting is preppers, a lot of times, get lumped into terrorists.
They get labeled.
There's this guy, Mike Glover, who's been on my show, who runs this company, Fieldcraft Survival, and he teaches preparedness for all kinds of different things.
But they had him labeled.
They had him on the list.
Like an extremist list.
Because he's just telling people, like, if society collapses, like, he's a special operations soldier.
brian simpson
Well, there's probably some crossover between the two communities, you know?
Because, you know, it's already so few of you.
I would imagine if you're like...
Somebody walked up and was like, hey, fucking John is in the Klan.
He's like, just don't bring up race around John.
You know what I mean?
He's one of our best preppers.
joe rogan
I don't think they're talking about that.
I think they're talking about people that want to overthrow the government.
brian simpson
Oh, like, okay, so I get what you're saying.
It's like people that want the society collapse are mixed in with the people that are preparing just for if it does.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Right.
joe rogan
And the worry is that...
Well, from the Prepper's perspective, the people that are into that would say, like, I don't trust the government not trusting me, because what they don't trust me is that if the shit goes down, they go full totalitarian, they know we're armed to the tits, and they don't like it.
Plus, we have food, we have water, we can fucking, we can huddle down and fight them off.
That's what they think, I would imagine.
And just espousing that puts you on a watch list.
brian simpson
Or even if it was like zombie shit or some disease.
Like, bro, you know, and I might just be talking my ass.
Correct me if I'm wrong, please, Jamie.
But the premise of Last of Us was that that one fungus that...
joe rogan
Cordyceps.
brian simpson
Cordyceps, it couldn't infect humans.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
And then it did, right?
And now it has in real life.
joe rogan
Has it really?
brian simpson
I just read this like a couple weeks ago.
Am I wrong, Jamie?
It has infected a human now.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Yeah.
Now, obviously, I don't know if it can mind control a human.
Because you'd probably die before it could take over your whole mind, because our minds are way bigger than, you know, bugs.
joe rogan
But there's things that take over our minds anyway.
There's toxoplasmosis, which you actually get from cats.
You might have that.
brian simpson
Well, there was a pussy plant out there.
joe rogan
From your wild cat, you probably have it.
You probably have toxo.
brian simpson
Oh, for sure.
Just from being exposed to cats' feces?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, that bitch, yeah.
She rubs her butthole and everything.
joe rogan
Not only that, she's out there with rats and all sorts of things.
Who knows what she's killing and eating out there?
brian simpson
Yeah, I think it makes you love them, right?
joe rogan
Well, what it does with rats is it makes them sexually attracted to smell of cat urine.
brian simpson
Okay.
joe rogan
They literally lose their ability to be afraid of cats and then they get hard.
Like thinking about cat piss.
So they get aroused.
So they literally seek out the cats.
And then the cats kill them and eat them and toxoplasmosis actually multiplies inside a cat's gut.
Could cordyceps fungi infect humans?
Cordyceps opiocordyceps are types of fungi that typically infect insects.
Fictional works have explored cordyceps infections in humans, but this fungus is not likely to evolve to cause infection in humans in the near future.
However, cases of fungal infection may be increasing with climate change.
This is recently.
brian simpson
Did I speak out of my ass?
Uh-oh.
Misinformation.
joe rogan
No worries.
It happens.
brian simpson
Hold on.
I know I'm not trippin', though.
Let me see what I'll say.
joe rogan
You know what scares me is rabies.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, well...
joe rogan
Rabies is wild.
You hear about, like, the accounts of, like, settlers trying to make their way across the country that encountered animals with rabies and the way they died?
Rabies is wild because it infects animals and makes them want to bite you to give you rabies.
brian simpson
Every time I hear somebody tell me they got bit by a wild animal and they didn't go to the hospital, I'm like, are you crazy?
joe rogan
Are you out of your fucking mind?
brian simpson
Because once you start showing symptoms of rabies, you already did.
joe rogan
You don't have much time.
I think you have to get to the hospital and get treatment within 24 hours.
I think it's pretty close.
brian simpson
Yeah, you can't rest on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know a dude that was telling me a story about someone who got nicked by a bat.
Like, there was bats under a bridge, and the bat, you know, they're flying, they're all flying, and he got nicked on his hand.
He died of fucking rabies.
brian simpson
Just a nick?
joe rogan
Yeah, see if you can find that.
Guy gets nicked from a bat, dies of rabies.
Yeah, like, nicked his hand, I think.
And he's like, oh, what the fuck is that?
Thought nothing of it, you know?
Thing just flew by.
Maybe he didn't even feel it.
You know, maybe he didn't even notice.
You know, there's a bunch of bats around you like, Jesus!
brian simpson
Oh, man, that's such a...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
That's another fear.
joe rogan
Infected bat ran into the hand of B.C. Man, who later died from rabies.
Suffering a small puncture wound in rare daylight encounter this spring.
Wow.
brian simpson
Damn, he's 21 years old.
joe rogan
Crazy, man.
Crazy.
brian simpson
And he didn't go to the hospital?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I said he developed symptoms of rabies six weeks later.
brian simpson
Yeah, bro.
You gotta get, cause once the symptoms kick in, you dead.
You can't, nothing you can do.
If you get bit by a wild animal, you got to go to the hospital that night.
Immediately.
joe rogan
Not crazy.
unidentified
He didn't even know.
brian simpson
I would lie at the hospital.
Because if you tell them you're having chest pains, they'll see you right away.
joe rogan
Imagine you're feeling like shit and you have to think back to six weeks ago where a bat grazed you.
brian simpson
I'm having chest pains.
I got bit by a bat.
Checking me out for everything.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Because they do triage.
At most emergency rooms, meaning they don't see you in the order you came in, they see you in what they think is the most serious.
joe rogan
Right, so you gotta say something's really wrong.
brian simpson
Yeah, unless you're bleeding out or you having chest pains, it's not serious.
You might be sitting there for four, five, six, seven hours.
joe rogan
You gotta fake a stroke.
brian simpson
You just gotta say you're having chest pains.
joe rogan
I'm just getting dizzy.
I'm blocking out my chest pains.
brian simpson
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't do that.
If I thought something serious was wrong, I would lie about having chest pains.
I have no shame on my guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good move.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta get in there, especially if you think it might be rabies.
brian simpson
I stray Fred Sanford in there.
I'm coming home, Elizabeth!
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Everybody forgot about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a great show, man.
brian simpson
Because I did it before.
I went to the emergency room.
I was having chest pains.
And I remember the...
It was on the 4th of July.
And I remember the dude taking my vitals and stuff.
He was like, how old are you?
I was like, 40. And he was like...
And just walked away.
I was the only person in there.
They saw me right away.
joe rogan
He laughed?
brian simpson
He laughed.
joe rogan
That you were having a heart attack at 40?
brian simpson
Yeah, he laughed.
joe rogan
What a piece of shit.
brian simpson
I know, right?
joe rogan
Wow.
brian simpson
He took my vitals and was like, what's wrong?
I was like, chest pains.
He was like, for real?
unidentified
I was like, yep.
brian simpson
I was like, all right.
Walked off.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian simpson
I know.
The doctor was pissed when I told him that.
But he was like, it's just unlikely that there's anything wrong with you.
It turned out to just be gas.
It's real bad gas.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
How bad's your gas?
unidentified
That particular time it was just real bad.
joe rogan
You went to the doctor for gas.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Like it hurt real bad.
joe rogan
Wow.
Like you were really thinking you were having a heart attack.
brian simpson
Oh yeah.
Well the thing is, the VA has like a tele-nurse.
So if you call a nurse and say your symptoms, they'll tell you what you need to do, whether you go to the hospital or they'll make an appointment for you.
But if you say you're having chest pains, they're going to make you go to the hospital.
No matter what the fuck is going on.
So they're like, best not to risk it.
So it probably wasn't the type of pain that would be signal a heart attack.
But it was like, she didn't know that and I didn't know how to describe it to her better.
So she was like, just go just in case.
You don't want to go to an emergency room just in case.
But I would if I got bit by an animal.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
brian simpson
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to be careful.
brian simpson
You can't fuck around.
joe rogan
You don't want to die and wish you had gone.
brian simpson
Right.
Chest pain or animal attacks, it's a must go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, no matter what's going to cost you, going to debt, just don't pay it.
You know?
I'd rather be alive and in severe debt than dead because I didn't go to the doctor.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
100%.
Yeah.
Medical bills are fucking crazy.
brian simpson
It's kind of insane.
It's very, very, very much insane.
joe rogan
I didn't really understand until the pandemic.
I never looked into the healthcare system in terms of how many hospitals are private.
brian simpson
Most of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're businesses.
brian simpson
And then the public ones are dangerous.
Everyone in every city, they can tell you the hospital that you don't want to go to.
My mom, she's going to probably be mad at me talking about this.
My mom had a heart attack recently, and like, you know, within the last year.
And she drove herself to the hospital because she lives in D.C., but it's right there on the border with PG County, Maryland.
And so it was because she knew if she called 911, they would take her to the bad hospital.
So she drove herself to the hospital so she could go to the good one.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
Yeah.
It's like that out here.
The public hospital is fucking trash.
jamie vernon
I saw a video of a kid who is one of the worst fractures of an ankle I've ever seen.
And he's in the passenger seat being driven to the hospital.
brian simpson
In the passenger seat of what?
jamie vernon
To his friend's car.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's probably faster than taking someone in an ankle.
jamie vernon
Yeah, but he's just, I mean...
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
I don't know what else you do, obviously, but...
brian simpson
Do you get leeway if you're trapping somebody to the hospital?
Like, say you're speeding or something and they pull you over?
joe rogan
If the cops are listening to you, you said my friend's got a broken ankle, the cops will probably give you a police escort.
brian simpson
Yeah, they probably got a broken ankle.
joe rogan
I mean, if it sounds pretty bad, like bone through the skin and shit, blood everywhere.
brian simpson
But is there some kind of signal you can give where, like, I'm not slowing down, I can't stop?
joe rogan
Cops should never listen.
Because they have to follow you anyway just to make sure it's true.
Otherwise you're just a psycho just speeding around.
brian simpson
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Saying you're pregnant.
brian simpson
I was like, you gotta beat me to the hospital.
I'm giving birth, sir.
Yeah?
joe rogan
Excuse me?
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder what happens if a cop pulls someone over and they say, I'm giving birth now, and it's a guy.
You have to let it slide.
brian simpson
A cop let one of my cousins get away with just pissing on the side of the road.
Oh.
Because he pulled him up.
I was like, why are you speeding?
He's like, I got to piss so bad.
He got out of the car and ran off him.
Sometimes you got to go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, we've all been there.
jamie vernon
Did you see this story?
joe rogan
What's this one?
jamie vernon
This is in Florida.
There's a...
joe rogan
Oh, a deputy pulled another deputy over.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I thought it was a stolen car, but it was not.
He was just saying, I'm on my way to work.
He's like, well, why are you going?
He's going 85 in a 45. He just walks off.
brian simpson
Yeah, because I think technically...
Because cops don't follow the same traffic code, but I think if you're not on shift, just because you're in a cop car, you can't speed.
joe rogan
You have to be going to a scene.
brian simpson
Or you just have to be on patrol.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're still not allowed to speed.
You're not supposed to speed unless you're chasing someone.
If you're going to a scene of a crime, interesting.
jamie vernon
I think I got fired for that.
joe rogan
I gotta wrap this up.
Brian, we got a show in an hour and a half.
No, two hours.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
brian simpson
We got several shows.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeehaw.
Let's go.
brian simpson
Living the life.
Living the dream.
unidentified
All right, brother.
joe rogan
We're having fun.
brian simpson
Yeah, man.
Thanks for having me on.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
brian simpson
Don't forget to follow the podcast BS with Brian Simpson.
joe rogan
B.S. with Brian Simpson, B.S. Comedian on Instagram and on Twitter.
brian simpson
And Denver and New York in July.
joe rogan
And filming at the Mothership in August.
brian simpson
Oh, wait a minute.
Also, one thing I've got to plug.
We're doing a fundraising show at the Mothership.
Week after July 4th for the...
joe rogan
How good is the McVader?
He's the best.
brian simpson
Oh, he is the best.
joe rogan
He's so good at these.
brian simpson
This came out to haunt me because Miami got fucked up.
But yeah, we're hosting a fundraiser for the Veterans Hearts Project, which treats veterans with psychedelics.
joe rogan
What night is that up?
brian simpson
It's the following Tuesday, the 4th of July.
So what is that?
The 11th?
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
Beautiful.
joe rogan
All right.
Bye, everybody.
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