All Episodes
April 20, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:11:20
Joe Rogan Experience #1972 - Jim Breuer
Participants
Main voices
j
jim breuer
01:02:38
j
joe rogan
01:54:24
Appearances
j
jamie vernon
03:30
Clips
b
b-real
00:01
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
unidentified
the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day Jim motherfucking brewer good to see you my brother yeah You too, man.
jim breuer
I feel like I'm seeing like a high school friend.
joe rogan
I know.
jim breuer
And I've been out of high school for a long time.
joe rogan
Well, when we met, we were like fresh out of high school.
When we met, we were in our early 20s.
jim breuer
Yeah, we were really young.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
We were young.
joe rogan
Bro, we've been friends for like 31 years.
jim breuer
Dude.
joe rogan
So crazy.
Maybe 32. Might be 32 years.
jim breuer
Yeah, well, I've been married.
joe rogan
It's like 91?
jim breuer
30. Yeah.
And I wasn't married.
I was with the same girl.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
jim breuer
And so that was at least 31, 32 years ago.
joe rogan
At least 31, 32 years ago, yeah.
jim breuer
And you cracked me up then and you cracked me up now.
joe rogan
We had a good fucking time.
We had a good time back then.
We had a good time last night, dude.
Last night was so much fun.
God, that club is such a fun hang.
jim breuer
I love seeing you enjoy life.
I love seeing you enjoy life.
And watching you, it's like...
What I love about you is you've never changed.
And you always...
You love comedy.
You love stand-up comedy.
And to see you just eating, breathing, talking, living, loving stand-up.
Bro, you would fucking go in the main room.
I'd get there, right?
And you're chatting...
Crush it!
Crush it!
I'm watching the balcony like a 15-year-old going...
Bro, that felt good for me.
You know when you're able to watch another guy and laugh your fucking balls up?
And then you come inside, and then you're talking more comedy with all the dudes in there, and then you go in the little room, and you're telling me, because I'm way out of my element last night.
I was just like this whole time, like, what the fuck is going on right now?
Holy shit.
joe rogan
You slipped right into it.
Come on, man.
You felt like you belonged at that place.
jim breuer
Huh?
joe rogan
You felt like you belonged at that place.
Like immediately, the moment you went on stage, we were in the balcony watching you.
I was crying.
That was the best impression of me I've ever seen anybody do.
jim breuer
Well, it's fascinating watching you!
joe rogan
Ridiculous I am!
jim breuer
Well, I'm in the Korean room and you're just, you know, the guys are talking about fighting and you're just like, just every movie, you're like, dude, you've got to go slow.
It's reputation.
And then you start going, but you always stay right here.
And all of them will watch you like, I'll watch you.
You could sell me probably going into the UFC for this one fight.
It was fucking captivating.
I really had a good time.
joe rogan
A lot of those guys are getting into martial arts.
A lot of those guys are getting into martial arts.
Guys are trying jujitsu.
It's really interesting because they're realizing there's something to that.
There's something to doing that thing, that very difficult physical thing.
It makes you better at other stuff.
jim breuer
I want to do it and I didn't commit to it yet because I know...
joe rogan
You should go with Joey.
Joey loves it.
Joey Diaz, he does jiu-jitsu all the time.
jim breuer
He's in Jersey, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not in Jersey anymore.
You're in Florida now.
There's plenty of places in Florida, I could say.
jim breuer
There is plenty.
joe rogan
Oh my God, Florida is filled with high-level jiu-jitsu.
jim breuer
But what I was going to say was, it's...
Knowing what you're capable of definitely adds to everything about you, the way your whole day goes about.
It creates a fearless, if that makes sense.
joe rogan
It gives you more of an understanding of other stuff.
If you get good at a thing that's hard to do, it gives you a better understanding of how to get good at other stuff.
Yeah.
And discipline.
And just life in general.
Having a difficult thing that you do in your life, I think, makes the rest of life easier.
I really do.
And I think we're just—humans are so adaptable, man.
You look at people that live in horrible conditions and they seem fine.
Like, you ever see, like, these videos of these villages where these kids are playing and there's just dirt, there's nothing else, and they're just kicking around a homemade soccer ball laughing and giggling?
jim breuer
Joe, so two years ago, we go on a big vacation, right?
I like going to Africa.
And we go to this tribe.
joe rogan
What part of Africa did you go?
jim breuer
This one was in Kenya.
It was right outside of Kenya.
We flew into Nairobi.
It was just outside of Kenya.
But remember when you were a kid and like you build a fort?
Like if me and you were hanging out with 12 years old, I'd tell you like, you want to build a fort?
Yeah, okay.
You're going to end up getting like, okay, I got a trash can.
I got my dad's jacket.
I got the hood of a car.
And we love...
And then once you build a fort, then you're inside and you're like, this is where we're going to cook.
Dude, that's what these guys lived in.
And they loved...
It was like watching kids play Fort and they were just so proud.
I went in.
I'll show you a picture later.
It's so fucking cool.
You go in and they...
That's all they got.
I think that when you say that's all they've got, it's a misconception.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they exist just like we exist.
They're alive and thriving just like we're alive and thriving.
It's just a completely different way of living.
A hunter-gatherer's way of living, apparently, when you talk to...
I'm not talking about...
Let's be real clear.
I'm not talking about third-world people who live in rural poverty.
I'm talking about hunter-gatherers.
I'm talking about people that exist off the land.
There's something about that they think resonates with people because that's how we evolved.
And so when people do that, they're very happy.
They had a really interesting docu-series on Vice back in the day called Heinmo's Arctic Adventure.
And it's about this guy, Heinmo Korth.
I hope I'm saying his name right.
I think I am.
And this dude moved up to the Arctic in, like, the 1970s.
And he's been there ever since.
This dude doesn't have a...
he's got a TV with like VHS tapes and he watches movies occasionally.
He saw about 9-11.
He saw a photo of 9-11.
He's still never seen the planes go into the towers.
And this guy moved up there and met this woman, this indigenous woman, and had a family with her.
And this fucking guy lives in, like, a log house that's in the middle of the woods, and he's surrounded by grizzly bears.
He had to kill a grizzly bear on camera in the middle of this thing.
The grizzly bear was coming to kill his dog or eat his caribou or something.
No, he killed one of his dogs in the past.
Like, your dog's tied up outside to bark to make sure that they know when bears are coming.
And a bear ate his fucking dog.
The dog was tied up, they came back, the dog was dead.
Just pieces of it.
Like, and this guy lives like this.
And he's so happy.
But he's also super intelligent.
So when this guy's talking, he's explaining how, I think this is how people are supposed to live.
jim breuer
Well, not only that, too, but knowing that your life, or any life, can end at any moment, at any time.
I think, when you have a reality that...
Just how delicate all of life is.
You have a different perception and you look at things a lot differently.
You lose someone.
This fucker knows.
All of them are vulnerable, including himself.
joe rogan
He lost his baby.
He lost a two-year-old baby.
It fell out of their boat in the rapids.
I mean, this is how difficult their life is, that they're forced to hold a two-year-old baby in the rapids.
There's no other way to do it.
They have to get through.
Everyone has to survive.
And the thing tipped over.
jim breuer
It's like, well...
And we live in our world where a two-year-old gets cancer.
joe rogan
Right.
jim breuer
And you go, watch that kid go through things and have 10, 15 operations.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
And then you finally lose them.
It's life.
That's the part.
It doesn't matter.
Part of me wants to go back to that.
I know it's going to be a battle.
But there is part of me that feels like, this should be the new school, but is there a mix between...
Living that way and like, hey man, let's go get some pizza and burgers.
Let's go see a fucking movie.
Or let's go see...
We have to get too nuts out here.
Is there...
Because that's the new school.
Learning how to build a home.
Learning how to live off the land.
joe rogan
Dude, you know what I saw that was fascinating the other day?
They took apart this 100 plus year old Japanese building that was made with no nails.
The craftsmanship is so insane.
They have these wood cuts where they wedge into each other perfectly, and then they have a separate wedge that they put in each piece to secure it in place.
And they built this house this way with no nails over a hundred years ago.
jim breuer
Is this like the log cabin thing, too?
joe rogan
No, but it's not like a log.
It's like perfect.
Like a log cabin, it's kind of rough.
You know, like they do that and they make those cuts and they slide them in place, but it's a little rough.
I'm talking about like this precision thin cuts on wood where they mesh together perfectly.
jim breuer
I saw a complete opposite where they built into the ground.
And I don't know if it was like India or whatever.
They had brown skin and they built this most incredible underground bedroom just from digging and placing things over certain areas.
joe rogan
So they just went into a mountainside?
jim breuer
It wasn't even a mountainside.
joe rogan
To a hillside?
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
They went into the ground?
Like a hobbit house?
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
Wow.
jim breuer
It was so cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is it.
Look at how they did this.
This is the Japanese construction.
Isn't that insane?
Look how they made these fucking perfect cut wedges, and they just slide into each other.
And they had this whole building built like this.
There's no nails.
And it existed like this perfectly for a hundred years.
So they're deconstructing it.
I'm hoping that they're gonna reconstruct it.
I don't know what they're doing.
jim breuer
So how old is this thing?
joe rogan
Over a hundred years old, I believe.
A hundred years ago, yeah.
It's joinery.
jamie vernon
When I was looking it up, it says that that's how they did construction in Japan back then.
It's amazing.
There's a bunch of videos showing this stuff.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
Because it's not like they didn't have nails back then.
But what's fascinating about someone who's willing to commit to building stuff like this is like, this is engineering, this is art, this is architecture.
I mean, these guys, look at how they're doing this, man, when they're making all these things slide into each other and secure in place with wedges.
This is incredible.
jamie vernon
They said they're bug repellent, too.
They're treated with bug repellent.
joe rogan
That probably gives you cancer.
What kind of bug repellent?
That stuff's so nasty.
When I did construction, I used to have to carry pressure-treated lumber.
Because I was a grunt.
And pressure-treated lumber, you get splinters in you, and you're basically getting inoculated with some chemical.
What the fuck is pressure-treated lumber pressure-treated with?
It smells terrible.
It's amazing.
I had one job that I had during the summer with my friend Jimmy Lawless.
He got me a job working for his construction company.
And Jimmy was a carpenter at the time, and I was a laborer.
And we had to build a Knights of Columbus ramp.
And it was just carrying pressure-treated lumber and cement all day.
Dude!
I did two weeks of that.
jim breuer
How old are you?
How old are you?
joe rogan
I guess I was 18. Yeah.
Somewhere around 18. That's the last thing you ought to be doing.
I was like, fuck this.
Because I had entertained some romantic ideas of going into construction.
But I wasn't interested in it.
I did a lot of construction gigs because my stepdad was an architect, so I was always on construction sites when I was a kid.
But that is fucking hard work, man.
jim breuer
Dude, that's a whole different level of work.
You're getting up early, you're using every muscle in your body.
I did that for like three days tops, I think.
I'm not even kidding.
What happened to me was, he goes, you know, we're working on this whatever building, I don't know, it was a church, whatever it was.
I'm petrified of heights.
So I was fine on the ground gathering things and bringing shit.
But when he was like, okay, take this screw gun and then you're going to go up the scapel and fucking, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, no harness.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
No nothing.
Just climb that thing.
jim breuer
So I stood there.
I stood there, and every time he was looking, it looked like I was like, and then he caught on like 50. He's like, bro, you haven't even, kid, you haven't even gotten one in.
I'm like, fuck you sick.
And then he calls you out.
Are you afraid of heights?
Are you fucking serious right now?
joe rogan
Are you afraid of dying?
jim breuer
Joe, you bring this guy who's afraid of fucking heights?
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
That's called being intelligent.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
You're supposed to be afraid of heights.
Petrified.
Petrified.
jim breuer
Hetrified.
joe rogan
Dude, when I watch those Alex Honnold videos, that guy climbing the mountains, where it's like at this angle, he's like literally hanging on with his fingers and toes, crawling his way thousands of feet above the rocks.
Like, what are you doing?
jim breuer
What about the guys in the buildings?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Oh, yeah.
jim breuer
Like buildings.
joe rogan
James Kingston sent me this.
This is him.
Like, this crazy fucker.
This crazy fucker.
Look what he's doing, man.
This is not good.
Like, look at this way he's got to climb this thing.
unidentified
Oh my...
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck...
What the fuck are you doing, bro?
And he's barefoot.
My feet would be so sweaty.
I would be slipping and sliding all over the place.
jamie vernon
He just got to the top and he didn't even know what was going to happen.
He's like, how do I do this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
He's fucking stuck.
What?
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ!
I can't let that.
Take it away!
unidentified
So...
Stop it.
joe rogan
So, that's called being intelligent, though.
jim breuer
So, I remember one time I was with my kids.
I'm with the family.
And we go...
And the kids really want to go on this Ferris wheel.
unidentified
Alright?
jim breuer
But I think...
I don't remember where it was.
It was definitely in the...
Maybe it was Canada.
It doesn't fucking matter.
All I know is...
You're in a cage.
And this one goes really high.
unidentified
Really high.
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
So I'm like, you know what?
The kids, this one's seven.
I'll be cool.
We got in.
I don't think I made it to halfway.
And then they started with the shaking.
And the fucking shaking.
And I... I was so scared I threatened my child's life.
I told them I was gonna punch their fucking faces.
I swear to God.
I'm screaming going, I will punch your fucking face in right now.
I swear to God.
And my wife's like, James, stop!
And that was it, man.
That was it.
Shut my eyes.
Fucking...
I'm never tempting heights ever again in my life.
I don't need to.
I'm 55. I'm done.
Fucking done.
joe rogan
It's not necessary.
jim breuer
It's not necessary.
I don't need it.
joe rogan
You're having a job where you literally risk your life climbing scaffoldings and hanging on while you're screwing things in.
Bro.
jim breuer
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's hard work, man.
jim breuer
That's man shit.
joe rogan
Shout out to all the construction workers out there listening to this.
jim breuer
That's man stuff.
joe rogan
That's real work.
jim breuer
That's man stuff.
joe rogan
That was one of the most important things about me becoming a comedian.
Having really hard labor jobs and realizing, I don't want to do this.
I've got to figure something out.
jim breuer
No.
My dad was sanitation.
I'd watch him like, I don't know if I can...
You know, I'd watch people working all day like, I don't know if I can do this, dude.
joe rogan
Also, imagine if you're doing sanitation, okay, and you're grabbing garbage cans and you're throwing them in.
What are you smelling all day?
What are you smelling all day and how can that not be bad for you?
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Like, toxic fumes, if you work in a factory, you have to have fucking the respirator thing on and the masks.
How is that okay that these garbage men are just breathing in toxic fumes all day?
If you can smell it, that means it's getting in your body.
jim breuer
And they were all like, his whole crew were all World War II guys.
So they all came back.
They all just came back from that.
They all hook each other up.
joe rogan
Right.
And they all got jobs doing that.
Solid job.
jim breuer
Solid job.
joe rogan
I mean, maybe they don't smell it too much.
jim breuer
Maybe the way they do it now.
He'd come home smelling like pure ass.
Ass and dog shit.
It was horrifying.
joe rogan
There's certain jobs where, like, Jesus Christ, like, how do you protect people like that in a pandemic?
Like, you can't stop them from working.
Isn't it funny that, like, certain people were allowed to keep working?
jim breuer
Don't get me started.
joe rogan
What was weird is like they had jobs that were deemed critical.
jim breuer
That was my favorite.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
We will tell you what jobs are essential.
joe rogan
What was essential?
Yeah, so that meant if you were non-essential, like you didn't contribute to society, you were non-essential.
jim breuer
We will decide who is essential.
joe rogan
The weird thing is that podcasting was essential.
jim breuer
It was very essential.
joe rogan
But it was.
jim breuer
Yes, it was.
joe rogan
It was listed as...
Because it's entertainment.
The show must go on.
jim breuer
The show must go on.
joe rogan
The people need to be entertained.
jim breuer
Meanwhile, we didn't know we were part of the sub-show.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were part of a weird show.
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
I remember the early days, like, Dana White wanted to put on an event.
And they were saying, no, you can't have events anymore.
Because of COVID? Yeah, because of COVID. I was like, shut the fuck up.
I'm going to find a place for this.
And then eventually we wound up doing it indoors with no audience.
Eventually, it was a few months in, they wound up doing...
We did a show in Jacksonville, I believe.
It was definitely Florida.
I think it was Jacksonville.
And no audience in an arena.
It was wild.
jim breuer
I remember that.
joe rogan
It was weird.
Because it was a big-ass arena.
And...
You know, there's just us, and everybody's weirded out.
Such a small amount of people.
And everybody's like, are we gonna die?
Like, is this, like, what the fuck is this?
It was like the early days of the pandemic.
Everybody was still really weirded out by it.
jim breuer
You know, it was very frustrating for me.
Because I just came off of the impractical Joker cruise.
I just toured.
I left Metallica and then did my own tour.
All I thought about was, okay, All those tours that were out there, all those bands, thousands of bands, are touring everywhere.
And all of a sudden, in March, you're like, everything's shut.
But up until February, you had thousands of different bands, all the meet and greets, all the hotels, all the airlines, all the partying.
And no one out of that, you never heard anyone dying.
And I saw- I would do meet and greets, have people coughing on me.
I didn't know anyone dying.
And I'm not saying people didn't die.
We're not saying that because they get pissed like, are you- there's someone right now going, are you saying someone didn't die?!
No, dude, it's not what I'm saying.
joe rogan
You want to hear the most fucked up statistic that I've heard recently?
74% of hospitalizations and deaths could have been prevented.
Is it 74%?
Is that the number?
With vitamin D? If people had adequate levels of vitamin D. I don't know if that's real, but I read this whole report on it, and I was like, if that number's real, and they knew that vitamin D was essential to fighting off diseases, if they knew that it was essential to your immune system, and they didn't tell everybody, they didn't just scream it from the rooftops, hey, there's this cheap thing that you can get.
And it really protects you.
It helps you a lot.
It's great for you.
It's actually a hormone, right?
And it's great for you.
You should go out in the sun and get it naturally if you can.
But if you can't, you need to get some of this vitamin D. It's really going to help you.
jim breuer
Bro, when...
And I would tell everyone, I would get in debates.
joe rogan
Give me the fine of that.
jim breuer
I would, I would, I just got in it with a friend and, you know, people you love and I'd The example of when you got sick, and then you come on, and you say, hey, this is what I did, and blah blah blah, and hey, it helped me.
That's all you did.
Now, it's such an...
It's how nobody sees that moment.
If the world is in such utter despair from a disease or whatever you want to do, it's killing everyone.
Now, let's say it wasn't that.
We didn't have the news.
You just heard people go, oh my god, everyone's dying.
Everyone's dying.
And you're like, well, what do we got to do about it?
You have to get a shot in the neck.
You gotta get the shot!
Well, is there any other?
No, there's no!
And then out of nowhere, someone goes, hey man, I ate this plant.
I'm not saying no, I'm just telling you, I ate this plant, and it was this berry, actually it kind of tasted normal, but I ate the berry, and then I did like 10 jumping jacks, and fucking stood out in the sun for an hour, and I don't know which of the river me, but it helped.
Do you think one person will go, whoa!
What did you do?
Not one human being.
And when you saw the vicious attack.
joe rogan
Well, it was a coordinated response.
It's very clear why they did it.
They did it because I said that I got better and I wasn't vaccinated.
unidentified
Dude!
joe rogan
And I got better quick.
And they were mad.
So the best thing they did, the dumbest thing they did, was say I took veterinary medicine.
They're talking about a drug that is in the World Health Organization's list of essential medicines.
They've had billions of prescriptions, not like 100,000, like billions of prescriptions of ivermectin.
jim breuer
I got so pissed at some of my heroes.
Like, you know, Terry Bradshaw, sorry to bring up his name.
I can't look at him anymore.
I can't look at him anymore.
He's on FOX. What did he do?
NFL! And he's like, I mean, let's face it.
unidentified
They're horse pills.
jim breuer
I'm like, oh, dude, they bought you two?
joe rogan
He just didn't know.
He doesn't know.
He's probably one of those guys that's scared of the disease.
He's an older guy.
And they have a heightened level of anxiety when it comes to this.
And they think that people are being irresponsible.
That's what they really believe.
He just was misinformed.
That's all it is.
jim breuer
You're right.
joe rogan
He just didn't know this narrative that there's only one way to deal with this and that this way is actually going to stop it.
Well, if it is going to stop it, why do you care who gets it?
You should just get it.
Because if you get it, that means that no one else is going to get it.
You're never going to get it.
Everybody who gets the shot is never going to get it.
That was the narrative.
That was a lie from the beginning.
And now we're realizing that it was a lie.
Everybody realizes it was a lie now.
I was talking to someone last night that had COVID really fucking bad after being vaccinated.
Like, really bad.
Two weeks, wrecked.
jim breuer
So, I have a great friend, and his daughter, college, gets the shot.
She ends up in an emergency room, and she's got blood clots on her liver.
And they're all like, you know, what do you think of it?
Well, you know, she rose a lot on the row team.
Are you really going to believe that's what it was?
joe rogan
Well, people do anything to not blame it on the vaccine.
When there's an injury, people want to find all sorts of other reasons.
If there was any other thing that came along that was a new, novel remedy for things, and then there was this host of side effects that were attached to it, people would want to be investigating those side effects.
But because this thing came along during the pandemic, And what Robert Malone talks about, where you have one solution that's presented to a problem that's isolating society, people are literally trapped, and this one thing is offered up as a solution, and anything that's opposing that gets attacked.
Because everybody does the work of the propaganda machine.
The regular people do that work because they genuinely believe that you're a knucklehead if you don't go and get vaccinated and you're going to fuck this up for everybody and we're never going to get back to work.
So they have that in their head and that's their narrative.
He just never looked...
He's an old guy.
jim breuer
Okay.
joe rogan
He probably wasn't looking into it and he really thought that he was probably doing the right thing, encouraging people to go get it.
jim breuer
I will...
I get that.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
jim breuer
I totally get that 100%.
But I feel like people like him and everyone that have been out there, even the ones that believed everything, and that's okay, because they get scared, and I get it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
There's still ladies on air.
There's still masks on planes.
You can tell they're scared.
That shit's so exhausting.
They got them.
They need to understand.
It's like when you're humbled.
Hey man, I might have been...
Maybe I shouldn't have said that.
It's all cool.
But I guess by their actions I still feel it.
But what makes me crazy is, isn't that a well-orchestrated, marketed, funded way to murder people?
At the end of the day?
Like to purposely keep people from getting healthy and actually stopping people?
What if your mother that you that's your angel in your life and what's being forced and threatened and ridiculed and shamed is that child or that husband And they do it.
And the people that created all this, let's not pretend they don't exist.
The people that created this, they knew exactly what they were doing.
Because they planned this in steps.
You're not that smart to pull this off without really putting a lot of logic into this.
And to me, that's murder.
I don't know how you explain it in any other way.
joe rogan
Well, what gets really creepy is if they're ignoring evidence on certain things that could be beneficial.
Because those things are not going to earn the money because then you lose all trust in them because like all you're offering up is a Pharmaceutical remedy for whatever the situation is you're not saying that there's any other things that can help when we know that human bodies There's a lot of things going on man and your nutrient levels are very important your Metabolic health is very important for your immune system.
All those things are connected and together and to think that the way to fix that is only an injection Says who?
And why are we listening to people that say that?
Anybody that says that is crazy.
The whole thing is important.
All of your health is important.
We should be encouraging people to be fit and healthy and to make healthy food choices and to take supplements and to exercise regularly and to like meditate.
All those things are as good as medicine.
If what you could get from being healthy was available in a medicine, it would be the most popular medicine in the fucking world.
What you could get from being a fit, healthy, happy person, holy shit would that be a valuable medicine.
And you can get it for free.
That's available.
You just gotta do it.
And they don't tell you that because they don't really give a fuck about your health.
They give a fuck about you following the rules.
And if you follow the rules, especially in pertaining to this one, then they make a fuckload of money.
And they have no accountability.
And that's what it is.
jim breuer
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
And so when someone like me says, hey, I got better real quick.
They're like, oh, you fucking idiot!
You're taking horse dewormer!
They're all saying it on CNN. So CNN lies.
Now you know they lie.
Because they knew I wasn't taking veterinary medicine.
They knew that the guy who invented it literally won the Nobel Prize.
It's so dumb.
It's one of the dumbest checkers move ever.
You know what it is?
It's like playing chess and you just run your king out to the middle of the table.
Fuck you, man.
You're taking horse medicine.
We're just gonna repeat it over and over again.
No one's gonna know the difference.
No one's gonna research the billions of human prescriptions.
The fact that it's an antiviral.
That it stops viral replication in vitro.
That there's studies on it.
The fact that it stops yellow fever.
People get all these parasites.
It kills them.
You're so stupid.
It was one of the dumbest things.
How could anyone ever trust them now when you know that this is how they treat something as so easily provable of being false?
And what doesn't make any sense?
Like the attack literally makes no sense.
You should be asking, hey, how'd you get better so quick?
jim breuer
Exactly!
joe rogan
And I got the hard one, supposedly, that's the Delta.
Like, how'd you get better so quick?
jim breuer
Won't you...
That is common sense.
joe rogan
Common sense.
jim breuer
But instead...
How did they create this...
joe rogan
Because this one narrative thing, the thing that Dr. Malone talked about.
Instead, it was like saying, oh, oh, what kind of...
Life choices is he making?
What medicines did he take?
What are monoclonal antibodies?
What is IV vitamins?
How does that help when you're sick?
Can you take that with your normal sick?
Or is it just COVID that it helps?
IV zinc, IV vitamin C and D and B. All that shit is fucking amazing for you.
jim breuer
Do you think that enough people realized...
Because that's the thing.
If you're just hanging out with someone...
If you're hanging out with me, and eventually I start lying to you all the time...
Are you going to take anything I say seriously?
joe rogan
Right.
It's over.
jim breuer
Who in your life do you know...
joe rogan
That lies all the time that you take seriously?
jim breuer
And you take seriously?
joe rogan
None.
No one.
jim breuer
So now that every media group that exists...
Lied right to your face.
Like while they were doing it, someone had been writing it going, oh my god, this is like such dick stuff, but I love being a fucking dick.
joe rogan
You know what it's like?
The corporations, we want to think of them as being these...
impossibly large machines that make money.
And they are.
But they're just run by people.
And some people are dorks.
And those dorks get important jobs and they put Dylan Mulvaney on a Bud Light can.
That's what it is.
These are dorks.
And you see the response that Bud had, the most recent response?
It's like the fucking dumbest pro-America rah-rah-rah.
Like we don't know who you really are now.
There's like interviews with the lady who is the head of Bud Light talking about why they did it and about the old sort of frat culture attached to Bud Light.
Dismissing the people and like the humor of the people that like Bud Light.
And so they're going to change that with this crazy attention whore on day 365 of being a woman.
I mean, we are in a fucking Coen Brothers movie.
This is a Mike Judge movie.
jim breuer
You're a thousand percent...
How does nobody else see...
What lunacy is going on right now?
There's no other way to explain it.
joe rogan
Bro, you gotta watch this Bud Light commercial.
This new Bud Light commercial.
Find the new Bud Light commercial.
It's the dumbest pro-America, rah-rah.
It's so stupid and cliche.
It fucking, it hurts my feelings.
It's so dumb.
This is a company in deep shit, bro.
Things like this.
Look, you got the prairies, the ocean, you got a Clydesdale running down the street.
unidentified
Let me tell you a story about a beer rooted in the heart of America.
Found in a community where a handshake is a sure contract.
jim breuer
What the fuck are you talking about?
unidentified
Rooted for those who found opportunity and challenge.
joe rogan
You know, I would respect them if they had this, and then Dylan Mulvaney just starts cartwheeling it to the frame.
unidentified
Day 368 of womanhood!
jim breuer
This is when some CEO is like, who is in charge?
Ah, he's 90 years old.
Get him.
unidentified
This is how we used to do it.
He's the goddamn Clydesdale, first of all.
Look at this!
This is the story of the American spirit.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
jim breuer
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Now I hate you more.
Like, what are you doing?
What is that?
What was that?
jim breuer
You can't come out in, like, chick's clothes and then turn around and bring a stallion out.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is, if you let CEOs talk about stuff like that and give their opinions about stuff like that, then everybody knows who you are.
So you can't just make this commercial, like, where's this coming from?
Was this AI generated?
That's probably a chat GPT 4.0 version of the perfect American commercial.
That's really what it is.
That shit didn't have nothing to do with drinking Bud Light either, by the way.
That made me want to move to Montana.
You want to be in the mountains and see the dust and shit.
jim breuer
That's the dumbest commercial of all time.
joe rogan
But it's so obvious what they're doing.
They're trying to...
They needed to let that sit for a little bit.
jim breuer
But that's what I'm saying.
You don't have one or two guys on the board going, I don't know if this is a good decision, bro.
joe rogan
I don't think they get to.
I think that lady made a decision and she thought inclusiveness is important and we're going to open up the brand to new people.
jim breuer
Or is this like an organized crime hit?
joe rogan
The thing is, like, if she didn't make the thing about frat boy culture, if she didn't, like, kind of disparage...
What was her exact quote?
See if you can find her exact quote.
She didn't disparage the humor of the people that enjoy the product.
Like, that is such a crazy move.
jim breuer
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It's just like an organ in my head.
I go, wacky.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is, like, if she just said, like, everyone can like Bud Light.
Like, if that was her, and she's like, America is the freedom to be whoever the fuck you want to be.
jamie vernon
What did you see?
joe rogan
If that's what they said, I'd be like, okay, great.
She was disparaging.
She was talking about inclusivity and talking about, like, this sort of frat culture around Bud Light.
jamie vernon
The CEO's name is Brendan Whitworth.
joe rogan
Is that the guy?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
There was a woman saying, yeah, that's a man, so this person was a woman.
Unless I'm misgendering them, Jesus Christ, don't say it.
It was a woman for sure.
There's videos of her talking about it.
There's videos of her talking about why she made the decision to do this.
But it's like you can say that we want other people like America's freedom and the freedom to be whoever you want.
If you want to be a woman for day 368, that's your freedom too.
But if you're doing that and trying to like change who buys the company and dismiss all the other people who buy the beer from the company, that's so dumb.
It's like such a silly move.
jim breuer
It's so weird.
To me, I instantly always see mob hits.
Yeah.
I see a mob hit just walking in like, your company's done.
What do you mean?
Fucking done.
What do you mean?
Everyone's fucking out.
Put on the thing that's going to get rid of their crowd.
You don't think you're fucked?
You'll never kill us.
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, you mean like someone did it to try to kill Bud Light?
jim breuer
Dude, they're fucked!
What a great hit!
joe rogan
That would be amazing if Heineken snuck in and did that to them.
jim breuer
Someone came in there!
unidentified
Like, put the transitioning.
jim breuer
The lady was a guy.
joe rogan
Like an agent provocateur.
Yeah, you have an agent inside the company that tanks the company, and it turns out you're shorting them on the stock market.
jim breuer
Yeah, you crushed it, and you're pinching on the side, and you open up a different company that's really manly.
joe rogan
I love that Elon Musk and Bill Gates have a little dispute because Bill Gates shorts Tesla.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He shorts it, meaning he banks on Tesla doing poorly.
And Elon and him have a billionaire feud because of this.
jim breuer
Bro, that's...
unidentified
He's petty.
joe rogan
I love it.
I'm not petty, but I like when people are.
I do.
I enjoy it.
I enjoy when people are petty.
jim breuer
What are two billionaires?
What are they upping each other on?
joe rogan
I just think it's disrespectful for Bill Gates to short Tesla's position.
jim breuer
That's a gangster move.
I'm not a fan of Bill Gates.
joe rogan
It's not a wise move.
Because that company's gonna kill it.
Wait till that goddamn Cybertruck comes out.
Dude, let me tell you something.
That is the coolest vehicle I've ever seen in person in my life.
The Cybertruck from Tesla.
It's a stamped steel electric all off-road vehicle that's bulletproof.
It could stop a 45 round It's you can raise and lower the height so you can off-road on this fucking thing It looks like it's a hundred years in the future when you're standing next to it is Absolutely the coolest looking car I've ever seen like you see on in pictures have you ever seen in pictures?
No, if you see it in pictures, it looks fucking badass But if you see it in person you realize how big this thing is and then you get in it.
It's fucking gorgeous That's what it looks like That's when that thing comes out You can't make enough of these fucking things.
These goddamn things are gonna be everywhere.
Everyone's gonna have a bulletproof car.
unidentified
Like, Bill Gates is making a terrible choice.
joe rogan
That's what it looks like.
When you see it in real life, you just go, holy fucking shit.
jim breuer
What's the movie when they're, when they're, what's the famous movie?
joe rogan
Look at that fucking thing.
Look at the size of the windshield wiper.
That's one giant windshield wiper that goes across the whole screen.
jim breuer
It's like a tank, bro.
Without the, without the big cannons.
joe rogan
And it goes zero to 60 in three seconds.
jim breuer
And it goes out in the, is it like a four, you know, goes over rocks and all of that stuff?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, it's flat.
Because there's no drivetrain.
There's no transmission in the center of the car.
So the entire car is flat on the bottom.
So even if you have an off-road vehicle, you have axles, right?
And these axles, they protrude.
They stick down.
And so that, like, messes with your clearance.
That's why the trucks are raised, and that's why the tires are bigger.
So you can get over...
That's because you can get over more shit.
What is this?
Oh, video of it driving.
Yeah, I went to visit the Gigafactory, and they had it at the Gigafactory, and they had been off-roading in it, so it was all covered in mud and shit.
Dude, it's fucking amazing looking.
jim breuer
Hey, it drives itself, probably.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, it does everything.
What's this guy doing?
unidentified
Is he testing it?
jamie vernon
Trying to test it, I think, yeah.
joe rogan
They're testing.
Yeah, it drives itself.
Mine drives itself.
jim breuer
I kind of can't wait for just going, hey man, bring me, bring me over, bring me to my kid's house today.
joe rogan
I'm definitely going to be able to do that in the future.
jim breuer
I just sit in the back, so I'm going to take a nap.
Can you wake me up when we get there?
joe rogan
We're probably about 10 years away from that, but it's going to happen.
It's going to be everywhere.
You can summon your car.
Like with Tesla, if it's in a parking lot, you could summon it to you.
It'll come to your app.
jim breuer
Is it doing that now?
joe rogan
Yeah, it does it right now.
It'll pull out of the parking spot.
jim breuer
Come on!
jamie vernon
Have you used it?
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I tried it once, it didn't work.
joe rogan
Oh.
jim breuer
It'll come out of the parking lot.
joe rogan
I watch people who do it on YouTube.
unidentified
I've seen people do it, but I tried it the one time I tried, it didn't work.
joe rogan
Honestly, I don't even use the auto drive.
When they gave us the new beta, I fucked with it for a little bit, but I get uneasy.
I don't want to not concentrate.
I want my hands on the wheel, and I want to concentrate.
jim breuer
Yeah, there's a guy who, also a friend, and he does all electric car stuff around the world, and I remember the first time he got me in one of those Teslas, and he's like, look, you can, and he kept turning around, and yes, it would go around a curb.
Don't do that, buddy.
joe rogan
Don't do that.
jim breuer
I don't think I can do that.
joe rogan
I can't do it.
I've kept it on automatic before and just fucked around, and like, Show people, look, it's driving itself.
But I'm not that trusting of it.
jim breuer
Me either.
joe rogan
Also, if people try to go in your lane and it doesn't recognize it, it panics.
So it'll like slam.
Whereas you maybe would just slow down a little and the person would slide into your lane.
It's like there's subtle understanding of how fast this guy's going, whether this guy doesn't see me or whether they're being aggressive.
There's different things you have to do.
And you could avoid stuff without slamming on the fucking brakes.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
And swerving into the oncoming lane.
jim breuer
My car does that.
It'll, once in a while, and I don't even have the automatic drive on or nothing like that or cruise control.
It'll be driving all of a sudden, it'll just jolt stuff.
joe rogan
It hits the brakes?
jim breuer
Dude, yes.
joe rogan
What kind of car is it?
jim breuer
Honda Insight.
joe rogan
Hmm.
We gotta get you out of that thing.
jim breuer
I know.
Everyone tries to.
I've always, I don't know if it's like a dorky thing, I always drive little shithead cars.
joe rogan
Why do you, do you like them?
jim breuer
I just like, I just like fucking, I like trucks.
joe rogan
What kind of trucks?
unidentified
Like a 150. Why don't you get yourself a Raptor?
jim breuer
A Raptor?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jim Brewer.
jim breuer
Tell me about the Raptor.
joe rogan
F-150 Raptor.
jim breuer
Raptor.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know about that?
jim breuer
Tell me about it.
joe rogan
It's a high-performance Ford F-150 off-road capable pickup truck that you could take around the street.
Yeah.
jim breuer
Will it ride like Elon's truck?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It could do anything.
Oh, Raptors are super capable.
Yeah, you could go Baja fucking racing in one of those things.
You could go off-roading in them.
jim breuer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Raptors, like, from the factory, you could take that bitch off-roading.
They have crazy capabilities.
That's a good question.
Show them what it looks like.
It's not going to be cheap.
Goddammit, you got that touring money.
Let's go.
Let's go.
You got to spend some of that.
jim breuer
I have all women in my house.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Well, two of them are gone.
joe rogan
So that's where it's getting spent.
jim breuer
Well, some of it's coming back.
That they're out.
One, the bank is shut.
joe rogan
Look at this thing.
This is a Raptor.
jim breuer
Oh my...
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
That's probably...
jim breuer
See, I need that in Florida right now.
I'm Florida.
joe rogan
I don't think that's good.
The way that hit...
jamie vernon
Mind your feet's a little far.
joe rogan
Yeah, the way that hit, I think he blew his fucking car apart.
jim breuer
Bro, I got a little too...
You know, you said this thing last night.
It's very funny in your bit, right?
But I found myself like, dude, you're talking about Florida, bro?
joe rogan
You're like a proud Floridian now.
jim breuer
Yeah, I forgot what it was.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll ruin the bit if I... Yeah, no, I'm not going to...
jim breuer
But you just...
Imagine Florida.
And I remember I was in the balcony.
I'm like...
I'm laughing.
He's just fucking...
unidentified
Tomorrow I'm coming with a Texas thing.
jim breuer
It was really funny though, but yeah, I feel like I need a truck.
I like the little bit of the hillbilly thing going on.
joe rogan
Well, if you want a truck that never breaks, get yourself a Toyota.
Get yourself one of those Tacomas.
They make great little trucks.
If you want a little truck, if you want a bigger truck, get yourself a Tundra.
Those fucking things never break, man.
There's something about Toyota's build quality.
I know so many people that have Tacomas.
They never have a problem with those things.
Never.
They just drive.
They just go.
jim breuer
Everyone says Toyota's the...
If you want a car or vehicle that's going to last a long time, do the Toyota.
joe rogan
Yes.
jim breuer
And it took a while with my dad.
He wouldn't do it.
And then finally, I think his last car is a Toyota Camry.
joe rogan
So much of our cars are built overseas.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Parts and stuff.
The reality is they build Honda NSXs in Ohio.
Wasn't it in Ohio?
jamie vernon
It was, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, that's a...
Japanese car being made in America.
There's a world market when it comes to cars.
If you wanted to have a car that's like a really American-made car, Tesla is about as close as you get.
And even Tesla, of course the batteries don't come from America.
The minerals don't come from America.
You want to get an American car, get an old car.
That's a real American car.
Get a 1969 Camaro.
jim breuer
One of them stick shifts or something.
joe rogan
Just driving down the Tallahassee highway.
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Yeah.
I never was a car guy, man.
joe rogan
I know that's sad.
That's sad.
jim breuer
I know.
Matter of fact, it's really sad.
My first one was a 73 Chevy Nova.
joe rogan
That's the last year of the NSX. They're canceling it.
jim breuer
That's your thing?
joe rogan
Oh, it's a beautiful car.
I've never had one.
I had the old one.
I had an NSX from 2005 and I had one from like 96. I had two different ones in the past.
One with the pop-up headlights and one with the fixed headlights.
The one that I had was this cool little silver car.
They were all aluminum.
They were basically Japan's response to a Ferrari.
That's what the NSX was.
jim breuer
When you were doing stand-up, what was your car?
When you first started, what was your car?
joe rogan
Started out, I had shitboxes.
I had a Honda Accord.
I had a lot of terrible cars.
Until I got some money.
But that car was a fucking marvelous little car.
They're worth a lot of money now.
Because people are realizing how fun they are to drive.
It's like a little go-kart.
Mid-engine.
It's not that fast, but it's really exciting to drive.
Very fun to drive.
jim breuer
The cars where I live in Naples?
Oh my god.
I didn't realize how poor I was until I moved to Naples.
joe rogan
Oh really?
Oh yeah, that's like all billionaires and shit.
Rolls Royces.
jim breuer
There's at least three Bentleys just in my neighborhood.
Do you know how crazy that sounds?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's crazy.
jim breuer
I've seen two my whole life.
There's three in the neighborhood.
You ever been in one of those?
joe rogan
You ever been in one of those?
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're fucking worth it.
Yeah.
unidentified
Sometimes you get in something.
jim breuer
You feel like in another time zone.
joe rogan
You sit in a Rolls Royce, you go, okay, I know why you spent all this money.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You look up, the ceiling is just like this with the stars.
That is wild, dude.
That's wild.
But there's something about that level of balling that's uncomfortable for me.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't ball like that.
That's too hard.
You're balling too hard.
jim breuer
So am I going too soft?
No.
joe rogan
That's why I like muscle cars.
Muscle cars are like, you're balling, but muscle cars are like, You know, that's a car that pretty much anybody who saves up money can get a version of a muscle car.
It's like you're not going to get a version of a new Ferrari convertible.
You're not going to get a version.
But if you buy a 69 Camaro and you spend a ton of money on it and have it coming out looking cherry with amazing paint and wheels...
But another kid also has a 69 Camaro and he's working on it in his garage.
Like, that's an accessible car.
Like, his shit could have Bondo on it, you know, it could have, you know, fucking old wheels and tires, but he's fixing things.
Like, that's a baller car.
That's like an accessible car.
jim breuer
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
I'm never gonna...
I can't even...
I'm not gonna be a fucking baller.
I don't know if I can ever be a baller.
If I had a baller...
You know what I really want?
You know what I got into?
joe rogan
Look at that one.
Look at that.
jamie vernon
Mustang Super Snake.
joe rogan
The Hummers.
Mustang Super Snake.
That's the convertible.
Look at that.
jamie vernon
825 horsepower.
joe rogan
Goddamn, look at that thing.
jim breuer
See, that doesn't...
I don't...
joe rogan
That doesn't negate your dick already?
jim breuer
No.
joe rogan
What?
What's wrong with you?
jim breuer
I want something like a Hummer.
joe rogan
Go back to that convertible.
That convertible excites me.
jim breuer
Does it?
joe rogan
It's Yeah, I had a Shelby GT500 convertible.
jim breuer
I don't even know what that is.
joe rogan
I fucking loved it.
I loved it.
It was like a 2011, I think I had, or 12. I had a Shelby GT500 convertible.
Loved it.
It was so crude and so loud and so like so silly Like anytime you want it when you're making a turn you stop on the gas the ass and kicks out I was like this car is so ridiculous.
It was so fun I loved it.
I loved it.
I loved it.
It wasn't like the fastest zero to 60 didn't handle the best and It was just so much fun.
The roar of the engine.
I think it's like 500. Yeah, that's what I had.
I think it was like...
No, I had the model right before that.
I had the model before that.
That was 2022. I had a 2011, I think I had.
jim breuer
I loved it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looked like that.
Fucking loved it.
It was so much fun.
It wasn't the best-built car, but it wasn't that expensive either.
It's like you're in a thrill ride.
You're not driving.
Every time you're heading on the gas, the top is down, so you hear everything.
So you hear the...
You're stomping on the gas, the wind's in your face.
It was so much fun.
jim breuer
It was great.
joe rogan
It was so much fun.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're an American band.
jim breuer
I like playing that.
joe rogan
We're coming to your town.
Help your body down.
We're an American band.
You're fucking on the highway, Jim, bro.
unidentified
Right.
And I'm next to you in the Honda Insight blasting fucking Metallica.
No remorse.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
I want you to picture yourself, Jim Brewer.
jim breuer
I want a Hummer!
joe rogan
I want you in a red convertible.
Buy a 2012. You can still get them.
People have them, and they're low mileage.
This is you, on the highway.
Come on, son.
The music is blaring.
The wind's got your hair flowing.
jim breuer
Woo!
joe rogan
Maybe out of 20-ounce Starbucks.
jim breuer
I need...
I need...
joe rogan
Now he's trying to sell you on a new Corvette.
Those are great too, but I like you as more of like a 2012 Shelby GT500, stick shift.
jim breuer
I like the tank thing.
joe rogan
A tank?
Oh, like an Elon tank?
jim breuer
Yeah, I was a Hummer guy.
I wanted a Hummer.
joe rogan
I know it was corny, but I loved it.
unidentified
We're at American Band.
joe rogan
That car right there, that's you.
Red, white stripes.
jim breuer
Flaps?
Flaps?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, flaps.
Give the man some flaps.
But that red one, the red convertible.
Click on that red convertible.
That's the shit.
Right there, bro.
That's you.
jim breuer
See now there?
joe rogan
Raunchy engine.
jim breuer
Listen.
joe rogan
You're at a red light and you just hear it and it just goes, come on daddy, let's go.
unidentified
Let's go daddy.
jim breuer
I was in that for like a very short period.
joe rogan
I love that car.
I'm gonna go buy one.
As soon as the show's over.
I miss mine.
jim breuer
I'm gonna be you when I grow up.
joe rogan
That's one of the most fun cars I've ever owned.
jim breuer
See now that, now I'm excited.
joe rogan
A Hummer?
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
We're an American man.
jim breuer
I like being higher.
joe rogan
I get it.
Well, you should see my truck.
I have a TRX. Yeah.
From Hennessy.
It has a thousand horsepower.
jim breuer
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's the most preposterous truck ever.
You would love it.
You're way above everything.
The good thing about that is you see trouble ahead.
Like if you're in a little car, like a low car, the problem is like sometimes shit's happening ahead of you and you don't know why everybody's gonna hit the brakes.
So you don't see it until like a second or two after someone who's higher up gets a view of it.
That's it.
Look at that motherfucker.
unidentified
Yes.
jim breuer
That's why the little cars freak me out.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love driving that thing.
It's like driving a tank.
unidentified
That's what I love.
joe rogan
And it's also, I don't know.
But you know what's one of those?
Post Malona's one like that.
Like the double rear wheels, like just to carry around his money.
He just stacks gold in the back of it like a leprechaun and drives around.
jim breuer
Was he on here?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's awesome.
I love that dude.
jim breuer
I saw him on costume.
joe rogan
He's a very fun, very fun dude.
We did mushrooms.
We did the whole podcast on mushrooms.
jim breuer
Did he really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jim breuer
He loves music.
He loves playing music and learning guitar.
joe rogan
Amazing guy.
Super, super talented, creative individual.
Very unusual person.
And really fun.
He's really fun to talk to.
jim breuer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But what were we talking about?
jim breuer
I have no clue.
joe rogan
The trucks.
Yeah.
Or just get yourself a Raptor.
A Raptor's a little less crazy, but it's still very big.
And it's super capable.
And it's comfortable.
Because they have a lot of travel.
Like on the shocks, because you off-road in them.
It makes driving on the road very comfortable.
jim breuer
Joe, I'm at the point in life where I'm at.
I'm like, I can literally live...
In the middle of nowhere, I think, and just disappear for a year or two.
I don't know, but that's where I feel like I'm at at times.
So I just need a truck, I don't need a fast car, maybe like a truck, and that's that.
But I'm close.
joe rogan
That's why you want a Raptor.
jim breuer
You don't never get those feelings yet.
joe rogan
What, the want to go away from everybody's feelings?
jim breuer
Just like dude, fucking out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you know what we were talking about before?
We were talking about hunter-gatherer people.
I go hunting every year.
To me, it's a big reset.
When I go in the mountains of Utah, when I'm there for a week, it's a big reset.
And it's also, man, you're in the real wild.
When we were there, I guess it was two years ago that I saw that cat?
Was it two years?
It wasn't this year.
It was the year before that, right?
I saw a giant cat.
It was so big, dude.
It was under a tree.
My friend Colton spotted it.
We were driving.
He was driving, and we were taking this dirt road, and we go through this creek, and we're going up this little hill, and he stomps on the brakes real quick.
And he goes, look at that fucking lion!
And I look, and I just see these glowing eyes that are underneath this tree.
And the headlights, it was just getting dusk out, and the headlights were catching his eyes, and his eyes were glowing.
Bro, it was huge.
He had this big old fucking pumpkin head and these giant forearms, and he was sitting there.
This was a full-grown Tom mountain lion.
It was a real big male, like a 180, 190-pound cat.
It was that big.
It was so crazy.
I'd seen him before, but the ones I'd seen before were like, Little ones.
I saw like a 60 pounder maybe or a 70 pounder running across the street in Montecito in Santa Barbara.
I was just driving and I saw this thing run across the street and then I saw his tail.
I was like, oh shit, that's a mountain lion.
jim breuer
So what do you do when you see this thing staring at you?
joe rogan
Well, we were in a truck, luckily.
Luckily we were in a truck.
But dude, I pulled up my binoculars from the truck because it was about 30 yards away from us.
I pulled up my binoculars in the truck and I was freaking out.
Just closed in on this thing?
This fucking killing machine?
Dude, I've never seen one that close before in the wild.
jim breuer
It's terrifying!
joe rogan
Any illusions you have of escape or fighting it off?
They go, your brain does all these calculations, like, maybe I can fucking...
All that shit is gone.
All that shit is so out the window when you actually see one.
Like, you just melt.
You're like, oh my god, I'm putty.
I'm a water balloon.
It's just gonna scratch me apart.
They're so big, dude, and so scary.
You really have to be careful and or have a gun.
Because there's a moment, if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, where people get got every year.
People get got.
The joggers and hikers, they get got.
Those motherfuckers will eat you.
jim breuer
And it's nothing you can do.
They hit you.
You're out.
They're dragging you up the hill.
joe rogan
They'll grab ahold of your neck and you'll never get them off.
jim breuer
No.
joe rogan
They'll just kill you.
You don't understand how much force.
That thing is killing bull moose.
It's jumping on the back of a moose and killing it.
You've got to understand, this is a super predator that lives amongst us.
And in California, they're like, we have to protect them.
We have to protect them.
We have to keep them alive.
jim breuer
To eat your cat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Or your dog.
joe rogan
Well, they eat mostly cats and dogs.
They did a study of them in San Francisco and all the ones that they had deprivation.
Is it depredation or depredation, right?
Depredation.
I think it's depredatorizing or something like that.
But when a predator is a problem, they get a depredation permit and they have to take it out.
And when they take them out, they were doing studies on the stomach contents.
And it was 50% cats and dogs.
jim breuer
Oh, wow.
Well, yeah, it makes sense.
Easy prey.
They're just sitting in the backyard.
They're in the front.
You let your dog out to pee.
And the next thing you know, Benson?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
Benson?
joe rogan
It happened to a buddy of mine recently with coyotes.
unidentified
Oh, no!
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
You ever see those videos?
joe rogan
I have, unfortunately.
jim breuer
I know.
I watched those, too.
joe rogan
The scary ones are when wolves get a dog.
Like a chained up dog?
jim breuer
Chained up.
Chained up.
And there's nothing.
And you see the dog knows he's fucked.
joe rogan
The dog knows he's fucked.
jim breuer
He knows he's fucked.
joe rogan
He's chained up.
He can't even run away.
jim breuer
And they'll pull him right from the chain.
joe rogan
They tear him apart.
jim breuer
Yeah.
It's horrifying.
But that's your...
Not the horrifying, but that's your piece.
That's your going away.
I'm learning that from hunters where a lot of the hunters...
I shouldn't say a lot.
The ones that I know...
It's not so much the hunt.
I mean, yes, it's the hunt, but it's also being out there in nature, in the wild, just you and nature.
And that just completely reboots everything about you.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's certainly a part of it.
That's certainly a part of it.
There's a lot of things going on out there.
It's also like there's a connection to the actual cycle of life.
Like you'll stumble upon a dead animal.
that has been torn apart by something. - Right. - We were in British Columbia once, and we stumbled upon this cow moose, this calf rather, that had been torn apart by wolves.
And it's just all hair and bones, it's just wild.
jim breuer
- Yeah, you see, that's another reason why I like, I like going to Africa, going to a safari, I love...
It just...
It snaps you back into reality.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
This is true life.
This is true nature.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We've created something really weird with cities.
Weird!
And because we're so adaptable, because people are so adaptable, we've adapted to city life.
And it is so unsustainable.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
It's such a weird way to live because you can't get your food that way.
The food has to be shipped in every day, constantly.
The real way to live is to live around your food.
That's the way to live.
The real way to live is to live real close by to your food.
Everything is getting shipped in and it has to go up an elevator to get to the 50th floor.
jim breuer
But you got some banana like me when I was like 18 and I was shipping produce and then you got like cherry tomatoes on top and I'm stoned out of my bird.
joe rogan
And you're eating the cherry tomatoes?
jim breuer
No, I'm eating the cherry tomatoes and the guy's like, now listen, when you go down the stairs, if you feel the thing going, I'm pretty sure it was a fucking mobster restaurant.
I know it was.
And he's like, listen, this is the guy's father.
He's like, so he loves his cherry tomatoes?
No fucking problem, dude.
I went...
I made, on the truck, maybe two steps.
joe rogan
Oh no.
unidentified
Oh yeah, he's like, I'll go distract him and you pick that shit up and I'll fucking clean up.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jim breuer
But the point is, yeah, you couldn't pay me.
Is this just me?
I mean, you were talking last night like, Jim, she moved to Austin.
I don't think I can ever live near a city again, bro.
joe rogan
So do you want to live on a ranch?
unidentified
I loved...
jim breuer
Love to be on a ranch.
joe rogan
Why don't you get yourself a Texas ranch, Jim?
unidentified
I would love to be on a ranch.
joe rogan
Start raising livestock.
jim breuer
I would love to do that.
joe rogan
Start raising livestock.
jim breuer
That's what I want to do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
And I'm just, I'm trying to...
joe rogan
It's a lot of work.
jim breuer
It's a lot of work, but...
joe rogan
You've got to hire somebody.
Yes.
jim breuer
I know I'm not going to do it.
Someone has to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's like real work involved in running a ranch.
I have some friends who own ranches, and it's like, whew, this is like an operation.
jim breuer
Yeah, man.
That's an all-day, all-night event.
Like, you're on guard 24-7.
Something's going on.
You're on the cattle, or you've got an issue with the coyote, or whatever.
Something's always going on.
unidentified
What's going on with the chickens?
jim breuer
Why are they dying?
I don't know.
Are they diseased?
joe rogan
Yeah, this dude that I met recently in South Texas, they found a dead migrant on his property.
Yeah, some guy is...
jim breuer
You knew them?
joe rogan
Yeah, I know the guy that owns the ranch.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they found a dead migrant.
jim breuer
What do you think he died of?
joe rogan
They don't know.
I don't know what the autopsy results were, but most likely they die of either, like, they run out of water and it's the heat.
Maybe they die of a heat stroke because they get lost.
You know, these are enormous ranches.
You're talking about like tens of thousands of acres.
Oh, wow.
And they're all connected.
It's like they're about 40 minutes, 50 minutes drive from Mexico.
And so these poor guys, this guy just wandered.
And found his way onto this ranch and apparently couldn't find water.
Just couldn't find water and that was that.
Sometimes a heat stroke, what happens with people is they...
It happened to this UFC fighter, Evan Tanner.
He's this really interesting guy who, he went on like a walkabout.
You know, he would go on these like nature retreats to try to find himself.
He was like really into meditating.
Very interesting guy.
And he did it in Death Valley.
And he couldn't find his water.
He just, like, he got disoriented.
And he wound up dying of heat stroke.
jim breuer
Yeah, I don't have desire to just, like, desert walk-in and stuff like that.
That's scary.
joe rogan
Very dangerous.
jim breuer
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
That temperature gets up to, like, what does Death Valley get up to?
jamie vernon
It's the hottest ever.
It's the hottest place on Earth.
joe rogan
It's the hottest place on Earth?
I think it gets, like, way over 120 degrees.
jim breuer
Which is wild.
I was in Arizona.
jamie vernon
$134.
jim breuer
How much?
unidentified
$134.
joe rogan
Do you know what 134 degrees must feel like when you go outside?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
That's a literal sauna.
jim breuer
Yes.
You know how it burns your lungs when you first go in the sauna?
That is insane.
Yeah, that's...
joe rogan
134 degrees is so fucking hot.
That was in 1913. Well, how good were their fucking thermometers back then?
That's what I'm saying.
You know what?
I mean, we believe in that.
Are you going to trust the time on a 1913 watch?
unidentified
Look at this shit.
My apologies, it was 103. Yeah, how the fuck do you know?
joe rogan
Bitch, stop lying.
You've read out of Mercury.
Just Valley just recorded the hottest temperature on Earth.
130 degrees.
Wow.
When was that?
2020?
130 degrees is so insane.
That's so fucking hot.
jim breuer
My hot tub goes up to 105 and I can't do it.
104, I'm done.
joe rogan
I guess what happens when people are out there doing that, I think they get disoriented.
And they don't know what's going on.
They don't know where they went.
Their brain, they're so overheated that they literally can't think straight.
You can't think straight.
And then you're fucked.
It's like your brain just gets so hot, it's just not working anymore.
jim breuer
So did you have a ranch at one time?
Do you have a ranch out here?
joe rogan
No, I've never had a ranch.
jim breuer
You've never had a ranch.
joe rogan
But I want one.
jim breuer
You want one too?
joe rogan
I've thought about doing one, yeah.
What I've thought about is making a podcast ranch.
I've thought about buying a ranch and putting a studio on the ranch and have a bunch of cool shit we could do on the ranch.
Like have a lake where you can go fishing and...
You know, have some fun.
Have like a little concert area so like friends can come by.
We can play concerts and shit.
jim breuer
That's a cool idea.
joe rogan
Just for fun.
jim breuer
That is a lot of fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
I say you invest in that immediately.
joe rogan
Yes, I'm thinking about it.
jim breuer
I'm learning how to play guitar, Joe!
joe rogan
We need a landing strip.
jim breuer
Need a landing strip.
joe rogan
You need a small airport.
Yeah.
A ranch with a small airport.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And rocket launchers.
We're going to need some rocket launchers.
jim breuer
Yeah.
The people you're starting to roll with, you're definitely going to need that.
joe rogan
Heavy ordinance.
We're going to need some shit.
We could just...
Things that you could blow up large things with.
jim breuer
I just need like a wiffle ball field.
joe rogan
Take people out for target practice.
That would be very fun.
Take some old cars out and just annihilate them.
jim breuer
That would be fun.
unidentified
Boom!
jim breuer
Toss of grenades?
joe rogan
Have you ever seen videos of people using Tannerite?
jim breuer
No.
joe rogan
You know what Tannerite is?
jim breuer
No.
joe rogan
It's an explosive that's...
It's pretty...
It's not hard to get.
A lot of people have it.
And Tannerite...
I don't know what the laws are on it.
But they'll put it in a refrigerator and then shoot it from a distance and it blows up.
And when it blows up, dude...
There's a video of this fucking guy.
He...
Sets it up in a refrigerator, and shoots it, and it blows up, and the refrigerator door comes flying past him, like just misses him.
jim breuer
And how far away is he?
joe rogan
40 yards, 50 yards?
Something like that?
You know that video, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I'm pretty sure this is it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Maybe more than...
No, that's like 100 yards.
unidentified
Oh, dang!
jim breuer
That's far!
That ain't 40 yards.
unidentified
Watch this.
joe rogan
Watch this.
Maybe that's 100 yards, probably.
Watch this.
jim breuer
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Bro.
What a...
jim breuer
What is that stuff?
joe rogan
Tannerite.
How crazy is that?
Watch this again.
So he shoots it.
Watch the door.
And just think to yourself, what do you do here?
jim breuer
Even how heavy that door is?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not getting away from that.
Watch this.
jim breuer
Wow!
joe rogan
Bro, that guy was so slow to react, he would have been a dead man.
He would have been a dead man.
I mean, look how fast that door is coming at him.
jamie vernon
Do you think the tree would have protected him in any way?
joe rogan
Yeah, it would have.
Yeah, for sure.
But he probably still would have got fucked up by shrapnel.
jim breuer
Let's see how fast it's...
Watch this.
He had two seconds, like a second and a half to react to that.
joe rogan
How about the fact that the door bows like a sail?
jim breuer
It just takes off.
joe rogan
There's so much force behind it, it bends like a sail.
Did you see that?
Show it again.
Watch how when it comes out, the door is like...
Look at the way the door bends as it passes by him.
This guy's such a psycho.
Watch this.
jim breuer
Oh my god, yeah, you're right!
unidentified
See how it bends?
jim breuer
It just completely bent out.
It looked like the nose of a plane.
joe rogan
There was so much force, the fucking door folded over like a paper cup.
What a psycho!
jim breuer
See, but...
joe rogan
Actually, I'm looking at that, I think that's about 50 yards.
Dude, look at that thing.
Look at that thing.
That guy was so not getting out of the way.
He was taking that in the mug.
jim breuer
No, he wasn't.
So are we going to be able to do stuff like this?
joe rogan
Yes, but different.
jim breuer
A little different?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're not going to use refrigerator doors.
We're going to do something wise.
Like what?
jim breuer
What can we do?
joe rogan
Something that blows up that's not going to hurt you.
From a nice distance.
We're going to have to develop some sort of concrete wall system.
jim breuer
That would be something kind of funny too, like big rubber.
joe rogan
You're like looking through the concrete wall of a turret and then you're blowing shit up on the other side of a lake or something.
jim breuer
Yeah, that sounds fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
As long as it doesn't litter.
Got to make sure we're not littering.
jim breuer
Yeah, you have a crew.
Clean that shit up.
Clean that shit up.
jamie vernon
See what a tank shell does to a human body?
joe rogan
Oh, don't show me this.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Don't show me this.
jamie vernon
That's already destroyed.
jim breuer
What is that?
joe rogan
That's a human body.
jamie vernon
152 millimeter shell versus a body.
I mean, it's not a real body, obviously.
jim breuer
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
Bro.
You just vaporize.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe stem cells could fix that.
There have been people in the world, I'm sure, that got hit by a tank.
Yeah.
They're not only shooting buildings with those things.
jamie vernon
I saw a video in Ukraine recently where they just blew it right into a foxhole.
There's three dudes right there.
And it seemed like everything vaporized.
But I don't know if they hit them or not.
jim breuer
Oh my God.
Which I don't understand.
Listen, I don't get involved with all the Ukraine stuff.
But what I understand is...
At this day and age still, are they really doing ground?
When you have the technology just to tap a computer and just send...
Are we really on the ground and moving with tanks and stuff?
That blows my mind.
joe rogan
Well, they're trying to overtake a very specific piece of land.
And that's the way they're doing it.
They're using tanks.
The whole thing is very spooky.
It's so spooky that that's happening right now on Earth, you know, and Russia is invading Ukraine, and they're using tanks and drones, and what is that, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Drone dropped a grenade inside of a tank hole.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So, did you see that?
Like, the tank hole, the port was open on the top?
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it just dropped it right in there?
That is so insane.
Watch this.
Dude.
unidentified
Dude.
jamie vernon
The drone videos are crazy.
There's a lot of crazy videos, to be honest with you.
joe rogan
Well, what's really crazy is like the Bill Hicks joke.
Remember Bill Hicks joke?
Like he said, he was doing about, you know, the different shit the army had to work with.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they had all these toys.
And like, pull up G-12.
Like, pull up G-12.
jim breuer
Yep.
joe rogan
Whoa.
What's G13 do?
Remember that bit?
jim breuer
Yeah.
And then, literally, how I see it is just like, you know, these guys said something about your sister.
joe rogan
Russian soldier reaches for his rifle to shoot down the drone.
jamie vernon
Shouldn't have done that.
I'll skip ahead.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
So it just gets over him and nukes him?
jamie vernon
And drops four grenades on him.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
One.
jamie vernon
He's over there on the left.
joe rogan
Oh my god Yeah, these videos oh my god in a foxhole Oh my god.
Oh my god, Jesus Christ.
Alright, I don't need to see this.
See, this is what's crazy to me.
We know this is happening, but this is the first time we've ever seen social media footage from people's cell phones of war.
You know, I watched a Russian guy go into a foxhole that had these two Ukrainian guys in it.
And the Ukrainian guy, like, reached for his gun and the guy shot both of them in the head.
And it's like close range, cell phone footage.
It's like...
jim breuer
Well, what supposedly started it?
joe rogan
What started the war?
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Russia's invading Ukraine.
jim breuer
Now, some people say that, but there's others that say that because the UN and they've been the most corrupt country in the world, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
That's the video.
Don't show me that again.
jim breuer
And then the US with the biological weapons and Russia kept saying, hey, man.
Getting closer and closer, which is shit.
We keep telling you, please don't do this.
I don't know what's a fact and what's not, but there is that side of people saying that.
joe rogan
Both are true.
So both things are true.
So one thing that's true is that...
What they have been doing is moving arms closer.
NATO's been moving arms closer to Russia, right?
jim breuer
So it's like me coming to you and I say, Joe, I'm going to...
And you go, Brewer, don't fucking come another step.
joe rogan
Where did NATO move arms closer to Russia where it was a real issue?
So there's been a lot of...
jim breuer
But what about the biological weapons?
joe rogan
What I was going to say is there's been a lot of discussion about doing this from the beginning.
There was a guy who was on the Colbert Show in like, it was the early teens, early 2000 teens.
And he had a book and he was describing in this book how Ukraine is essentially Robin.
We want to lure Robin away from Batman.
And we want to get Robin to join NATO. And we want to get Robin to join our side.
And this guy's explaining this on television, in a book, this plan that they had.
So in trying to get further and further control close to Ukraine, Russia felt like that was an attack on them.
That was provoking them.
They felt like it would be how we would feel if China started putting nuclear missiles in Cuba.
We have a new Cuban Missile Crisis.
jim breuer
Or in Canada.
joe rogan
Or in Canada.
Very similar.
jim breuer
How would we react?
joe rogan
How would we react?
So both those things are true and then Russia really did invade Ukraine and this is horrific and they're shooting missiles into apartment buildings and all that stuff's true, too So there's both sides that are true.
It's like it seems like there were some There were some strategic things that were being done that Russia felt was very threatening Do we know what they did what NATO did in terms of like moving arms closer to Russia?
jim breuer
What about the bioweapons that supposedly America had there, and they tried to say no, and then when it was brought up, they openly admitted, yes, we have biological weapons in Ukraine.
joe rogan
Do they call it biological weapons?
What do they call it?
jim breuer
I don't know.
It was like...
Biologic, whatever.
joe rogan
Right, some biolab.
jim breuer
Some biolab, whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what everybody wonders when you talk about biolabs.
How much of this is military applications?
How much of this stuff, is it 0%?
I don't think it's 0%.
I'm sure they must work on some things because I know that other countries work on things.
I interviewed a guy back in the day who worked for the Soviet Union and he had defected and it was for this sci-fi show and he was explaining to me how they have like giant supplies of anthrax.
And their biological weapons program was very robust.
Like, they have a real biological weapons program filled with shit that could kill everybody.
jim breuer
But my issue is...
jamie vernon
There was something about that, according to what...
joe rogan
Oh, the New York Times says it's unfounded.
Let's just move away.
Let's just move on to the next subject.
jim breuer
But that's what I'm saying.
If they lied to you, you caught them lying.
Why do we believe anything we're seeing?
b-real
Yeah, but do we know, though?
jim breuer
That's what I'm saying!
joe rogan
But the problem is we don't know either.
It's like weapons of mass destruction, right, in Iraq.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
In the beginning, everybody thought that that was what was really going on, and that we were going in there to stop this from happening, because we realized, like, this guy is funding terrorism, and he's got weapons of mass destruction, he's gonna kill us all, but it turns out to not be true at all.
jim breuer
Yeah, but the people that pushed that narrative knew it wasn't true.
And they funded it very well, and a lot of people got murdered, like innocent people that still come back with no legs, they don't get funded, and they're watching, you know, Trans Guy of the Year, and they're special, and their legs got blown off for a cause, and they're sitting there in a fucking van that drives them around, electrical, that's pretty fucked up.
It's pretty fucked up.
joe rogan
No one's held accountable for that.
jim breuer
No one's held accountable.
So why am I gonna believe everything they're telling me about Russia and Ukraine?
This is what drives me nuts about humanity's better.
You're a fucking leader.
There's so many leaders that are just regular people now.
Why do you need government or your officials telling you where you're gonna fight?
If someone came in here right now and they said, Joe, you need to come across the street and fight, you're just gonna go fight?
No, you're gonna go, whoa, whoa, whoa, the fuck am I doing?
Don't worry about what we're doing, we're gonna tell you what we do.
Haven't they failed enough?
With lying and getting us into these positions.
If regular people talk to one, I guarantee if you did a fucking podcast with real humans in Russia, real humans in Ukraine, real humans everywhere, The people in control get scared real fucking quick because they'll see we all have a deeper connection.
We want to be with one another.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're not in dispute.
The leaders are in dispute and they drag the people into it.
And they're playing some geo chess game.
Why?
What they've always done.
jim breuer
Why are our lives at stake?
joe rogan
What is the NATO thing?
We need to like discuss that.
What did they do?
What are they accused of doing?
I don't want to make a false statement.
But either way, NATO inches closer to Russia's border.
Okay, so what have they done here?
I just want to know that we're being accurate.
Because this is not my field of expertise.
jim breuer
And I have no clue!
I just don't want to close all avenues that I've heard.
joe rogan
But I do believe that there was NATO... Okay, here.
Putin's goal of preventing NATO expansion essentially backfired when Finland and Sweden were motivated by the invasion of Ukraine to apply to join the military bloc.
Currently, five NATO members...
Okay, so NATO already border Russia or the Russian border.
Norway, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, and Poland already border Russia or the Russian enclave of Kalingrad.
Meanwhile, Finland shares an 830 mile border with Russia.
So Russia's border with NATO would more than double if Finland attains membership of the alliance.
So Finland was joining NATO as well.
So more of these people were joining NATO and they were...
What were they doing in terms of like having arms?
Russia implements border control of traffic moving from Russia into Finland, thus preventing attempts at illegal entry.
If Russia reduces its border control, this may cause additional pressure at the Finnish end to control illegal entry.
So they're trying to stop people from escaping.
Finland cannot rely on the effectiveness of Russian border control.
So people are just like streaming into Finland, I bet.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Poland, right?
jamie vernon
When this happened, a lot of people left Ukraine and they banned all men from leaving because they had to stay in fight.
joe rogan
Were they saying that NATO had arms that they were moving closer to the Russian border as well, like when someone joins NATO, or is it just that since that army is now in NATO? What was the dispute in terms of that?
It seems like if I was Putin and everyone's joining the opposition right next to me, I would also get concerned.
unidentified
Yeah!
jim breuer
I'll start bugging out!
joe rogan
It doesn't justify what the guy did.
What he did is absolutely horrific.
jamie vernon
You have to find a well-written essay from both sides to get...
joe rogan
They're all creepers.
The whole thing's creepy.
It's great to join NATO. It's great if we're all aligned.
It's great if we just want world peace, if that's our goal.
Is that really what's going on?
jim breuer
I don't know.
I'm waiting for the time that all changes.
And I'm not like anti-government, but I'm like anti-lying.
And they've lied long enough.
And it's cost people's lives.
There's no reason Why humanity, we have the microphones, to be able to start talking to one another, the leaders could sit there and listen, but if their interest is our, as far as the humans that are occupying that, that they say they're there to take care of, they need to hear what we want.
joe rogan
But what we don't want is world leaders putting everyone's lives in danger.
jim breuer
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Which they've always done, and they're doing right now.
jim breuer
So why are they still, like, I don't understand, is that the spook of January 6th?
unidentified
Like, what?
jim breuer
Everyone needs to be held responsible who's pushing for complete madness.
joe rogan
Okay, so this is what Russia's fear...
Okay, according to Stephen Kotkin, professor of Russian history at Princeton University, Putin believes that Russia rightfully deserves a sphere of influence...
It's near abroad to Putin Ukraine is not a state because it's not sovereign small or weak states are only instruments in the hands of the great powers Where where we see Moscow's aggression Putin sees defense if Russia cannot control Ukraine Then the West will thus countries like Ukraine become platforms for invasion and then the West will dismember Russia and As the USSR was dismembered the way of thinking Russia goes back to the czars Russia
has no natural borders on its periphery and Stalin believed that without hegemony in Eastern Europe He would be subject to infiltration and subversion But the peoples of Eastern Europe did not want to be forced to live under communism and thus arose the very hostile hostility rather Stalin feared Interesting.
So it was all about controlling the borders in the beginning, and that's what they were worried about.
That's okay.
They're all creepers.
They're all like making moves on each other.
They're all stealing oil, blowing up pipelines.
They're all creepers.
They're all creepers.
unidentified
They are!
jim breuer
They're all creepers.
Everywhere!
joe rogan
Yeah.
The Chinese are doing it the most clever, because they go to places and just take over like mining.
jim breuer
They're all over Africa.
Every time I go to Africa, I'd ask them, like, what's it been to, like, oh, the Chinese.
The Chinese.
They're buying everything.
joe rogan
How's the food, though?
You got good Chinese food in Africa?
jim breuer
I haven't had the Chinese food in Africa yet.
joe rogan
I wonder.
Imagine if, like, there's, like, a thriving...
It's like L.A. with Mexican food.
It's the best fucking Mexican food I've ever had other than being in Mexico.
That's two arrested for operating illegal overseas police station.
Yeah, I did see that.
jim breuer
In New York?
joe rogan
In New York.
jim breuer
Explain this.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have illegal Chinese police stations where they bus people for doing things that China thinks are crimes.
jim breuer
Wait, but are they busting Chinese people or Americans?
joe rogan
They're busting people from China that are living in America.
I don't know what the citizenship is, but I think that what they're doing is operating as a police force for the Chinese government in America.
jim breuer
How do you...
joe rogan
Defendants are New York City residents who allegedly operated the police station in Lower Manhattan and destroyed evidence when confronted by the FBI. So these guys, they had their own little police station.
jim breuer
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they didn't tell the U.S.
joe rogan
They were charged with opening and operating a legal overseas police station located in lower Manhattan, New York, for a provincial branch of the Ministry of Public Security of the People's Republic of China.
Harry Lu Jingyang, 61 of the Bronx, and Chong Jinping, 59 of Manhattan, were arrested early this morning at their homes in New York City.
Their initial appearances are scheduled this afternoon in Brooklyn before the U.S. magistrate Judge E. Ramon E. Reyes, Jr.
Interesting that this is like such a big crime, but...
You could stab someone, they'll let you out the next day.
unidentified
Right.
jim breuer
You could loot a store.
joe rogan
You get let out the next day.
jim breuer
Stab, shoot a guy, rape.
joe rogan
Operating as a police force, you know, for the People's Republic of China, it's like, you can't do that, bro.
What were they catching people doing and what would be the consequences?
Do we know that yet?
jim breuer
That's kind of interesting.
Going to a ball game?
joe rogan
No, but if they caught people, do they ship them back to China?
jim breuer
Do they have a jail?
joe rogan
What if they have a jail?
What if they have the creepiest jail ever in New York City?
Oh my God, they must have a jail, right?
jim breuer
Of course they do.
joe rogan
Do they have a jail?
jim breuer
You probably got to go on the subway and then down the subway rail and then open a door.
joe rogan
It's like where the rats live.
unidentified
Yes.
jim breuer
Yeah, it's pitch black.
joe rogan
You hear things moving in the water, like you hear little drips and then you hear like Did you hear about that prisoner in Georgia that got eaten alive by bedbugs?
unidentified
No.
Yeah.
jim breuer
What?
joe rogan
This dude wound up, he was in such an infested cell that, and this is in America.
jim breuer
This is a prison.
joe rogan
This is in America.
Yeah, America.
This guy gets eaten alive by bedbugs.
jim breuer
How's that possible?
joe rogan
I don't understand what they- He was just covered in sores.
They just like attacked his whole body.
He's like lying there- So it's a period of time.
jim breuer
See in my head I think it happened overnight.
It's just a period of time.
joe rogan
I don't know how- I think he's in solitary and I think they keep them in inhumane conditions.
And this guy was just covered in sores.
Did you find that other story?
Georgia inmate eaten alive by bugs in a filthy cell.
How crazy is this?
jim breuer
What did he do?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
Simple battery.
joe rogan
Simple battery.
Oh my God.
jamie vernon
Three months later, he was found dead.
joe rogan
It was three months.
Okay.
So simple battery.
I don't know what happened.
jim breuer
He punched the wrong dude, man.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened.
So we don't know what happened there, right?
Maybe it was...
jim breuer
Could have been anything.
joe rogan
Maybe it was the other person's fault, right?
jim breuer
Could be anything.
joe rogan
So three months later, Mr. Thompson was found dead in a filthy jail cell after being eaten alive by insects and bed bugs.
When his body was found, one of the detention officers refused to administer CPR because, in her words, she freaked out.
The jail cell Mr. Thompson was housed in was not fit for a diseased animal.
He did not deserve this.
Disturbing photographs attached to Harper's statement show Thompson's cell, which is covered in dirt and strewn with debris.
One image also shows Thompson's bony body with defibrillator pads on his chest, which is covered in what appear to be small insect bites.
Do they have the images?
So there's his cell.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Oh my God.
Look at that fucking toilet, too.
jim breuer
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
This is so bad.
Look at his body.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
jim breuer
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That's insane.
He was eaten alive by bugs.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
jim breuer
That's gnarly.
joe rogan
That's in America.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's in America for simple battery.
jim breuer
Yeah.
Everyone thinks everything's perfect and amazing.
Now, yes, it can be.
joe rogan
Like, who is monitoring the jail cells?
I mean, they go to fucking restaurants and make sure that the conditions are...
They give them an A. Do they do that with jails?
jim breuer
Who's monitoring?
joe rogan
This jail gets an F. That guy died from begbugs.
unidentified
You get an F. We say, ah, sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do they do?
unidentified
Whoops.
jim breuer
Sorry about that.
jamie vernon
That's what Epstein was complaining about before he died.
joe rogan
Bed bugs?
jamie vernon
Rats.
Crawling all over his cell.
Of course.
In horrid conditions.
unidentified
Bro.
jamie vernon
I think they were flooded.
joe rogan
But he ought to know the end was near.
jim breuer
That guy?
joe rogan
Epstein.
jim breuer
Oh, Epstein.
I don't know what the deal is there.
joe rogan
Thank God they don't release that client list.
jim breuer
What's up with that?
joe rogan
I mean, why would you release it?
I'm glad the wiser heads prevailed.
jim breuer
Why do you think...
You saw the list, right?
joe rogan
I don't know if it was the list.
jim breuer
Correct.
You saw the supposed list.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, someone must know.
jim breuer
It bugged me out.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
jim breuer
It bugged me out.
joe rogan
It broke my heart.
It seems like it was for sure some sort of intelligence operation.
That compromise people.
That seems like it for sure.
And it seems like celebrities, that people think that celebrities were over there to do horrible stuff.
Maybe they were.
Or also, maybe they got kind of swindled into doing this thing because all these other celebrities were doing it and all these scientists were doing it.
One of the things that it seems to me that if you can get a bunch of people that are really famous to go to a place and, you know, say, hey, like...
Have you ever been invited to something and they'll tell you, oh, such and such is coming as well?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
They'll tell you that a famous person is coming.
jim breuer
Sure.
joe rogan
So that it makes you want to go.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, oh, your conference was that guy?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
So I guarantee you that's why they had celebrities there, too.
They had celebrities because if you can get Brad Pitt to go there, then all of a sudden it's okay to go there.
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
You think it's fine.
jim breuer
The only...
The only thing is they say they have video footage.
joe rogan
Right.
jim breuer
So if that's the deal...
joe rogan
Right.
jim breuer
I just know if I was on there, I'd be like, oh.
joe rogan
Who do they have video of?
Do they have video footage of people having sex with underage people?
Do they have video of people?
What do they have video of?
jim breuer
What do they have video of?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Are they still making deals?
Plea deals?
Is that even going on?
joe rogan
Has anybody that did that on the island talked about it?
Any, like, girls who were forced—they would have to be terrified of their lives.
Without a doubt!
Imagine you were— Let's just imagine that there were just adult prostitutes.
And, you know, you're taking care of lizard people on an island.
In the middle of the Bahamas, like, you gotta shut the fuck, they will kill you.
They probably kill one in front of everybody just to show them.
This is what happens if you open your fucking mouth, they just hack some lady's head off, chop her arms off.
jim breuer
I'm all invested in it.
People think, you know, why doesn't anyone say anything?
When you know They can find you anywhere.
At least they'll tell you that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
And like you said, they can stand right in front of them.
Hey man, you're going to have a great time.
We're going to bang some kids.
It's going to be awesome.
We're going to videotape.
And if you say anything, oh my God!
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
That's what happens.
joe rogan
Just kill somebody in front of you.
jim breuer
Boom.
Done.
joe rogan
Right to the floor.
That's all they would have to do.
jim breuer
You're like, okay, let's get to it and get done with this as quick as possible.
I pray to God that's not went down.
But it's weird.
joe rogan
It's very weird.
jim breuer
It's very strange.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
If you saw your name on there, right?
If you saw your name on there, wouldn't you be barking?
Well, I guess there's two ways.
There's two ways to look at it.
It's like if I just ignore it, hopefully it'll go away because you can't tell me every name that was on there.
Somebody let them know.
joe rogan
Someone had to know something was going on.
But do you think that they knew, like, what the whole thing was?
Because I think there was a lot of scientists that genuinely thought that this was a way to get this guy to donate money.
And, you know, he would donate a little money here and there, and for these projects.
And also, these famous rich scientists would go have this lovely vacation.
So then if you get actors, and then you got scientists, and then you get a few politicians in there, it seems like just a cool kids club.
jim breuer
We've been there.
joe rogan
It seems fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
jim breuer
Been there, done that.
To a degree.
joe rogan
And the fact that that's how they made this whole thing take place is really fascinating.
Because it's so brilliant.
It really is like some spy shit.
And that's what it is.
It's like they compromised people.
jim breuer
And it's been going on forever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Forever, dude.
joe rogan
It's got to be going on right now still.
jim breuer
100%, but...
joe rogan
It's got to be happening somewhere where you can get away with it.
jim breuer
Well, I mean, even in the Disney film, in Pinocchio, it's unbelievable, the pub scene.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
The new one?
jim breuer
No.
joe rogan
The old one?
jim breuer
Yeah, in Pinocchio.
joe rogan
I think there's a new Pinocchio.
jim breuer
There is.
Tom Hanks is in it.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it became in the public domain, so anybody could make a Pinocchio movie now.
joe rogan
Oh, how creepy.
jim breuer
That is creepy.
So when did the first Pinocchio come out?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
It was probably like the fucking 40s or something.
jim breuer
Okay, look up the pub scene.
The pub scene in Pinocchio.
And you'll remember this when you saw it as a kid.
It gave you a creepy feeling in your belly.
joe rogan
Let's see it.
Pub scene in Pinocchio.
jim breuer
He talks about...
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
...bringing the boys...
To Pleasure Island.
And then he starts whispering what happens to the boys.
And the fox freaks out.
He's like, but, but.
unidentified
And he goes, no, no, no, no.
They don't come back as boys.
Watch it.
jim breuer
Right in your face.
joe rogan
Ooh.
When do you think they started doing stuff like that?
unidentified
Dude!
jim breuer
He goes, we steal stupid little boys.
It's the pub scene.
The tavern or the pub.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, these guys are all hopped up to like, oh, you know, we're making it.
Yeah, this is it.
unidentified
And he still thinks we're his friends now.
Big, ugly, fat fucker just watching at the end.
This doesn't sound ready.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is right.
jamie vernon
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Yep.
Yep.
unidentified
That shows you how low Honest John will- That's not right.
jim breuer
Yeah, it is!
jamie vernon
This audio is fucked up.
joe rogan
The audio is weird, but that- I think the audio is weird, but just let it play out for a second.
unidentified
Stoop.
Right, kiddie?
joe rogan
Maybe that's how they avoid copyright.
unidentified
So, uh, Coachman?
jim breuer
Yeah, it's definitely a different audio.
unidentified
What is your proposition?
Well...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's definitely a different audio.
jim breuer
How weird.
joe rogan
Do you think that's to avoid copyright protection on YouTube?
jamie vernon
I think someone was fucking around as well.
joe rogan
Oh, like someone showing that they could do voiceover?
I'm really good at it.
jim breuer
Could be right.
joe rogan
This is my audition reel.
jim breuer
It's like his fucking audition.
joe rogan
Oh, he's playing it from an iPad.
jamie vernon
I wonder why.
unidentified
Here we go.
his friends.
And his tromboli pay.
Plenty.
That shows you how low, honest John was stupid.
That's how low I'll stoop.
A little cocky.
How would you blokes like to make some real money?
Well, and who do we have to...
No, no.
Nothing like that.
You see?
I'm collecting stupid little boys.
Stupid little boys.
You know, the disobedient ones want playoke from school.
And you see...
And I take them to Pleasure Island.
jim breuer
Oh, Pleasure Island.
unidentified
Pleasure Island?
But the law?
Suppose they- No, no.
There's no risk.
There's no rest.
Jesus Christ.
jim breuer
What is that?
joe rogan
It's so creepy.
Because, like, what value are boys to him?
That's the thing.
It's like they're gonna kidnap these boys, but why?
jim breuer
And they're not gonna kill him.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jim breuer
You want to make real money.
And the line before it, like, we'll stoop to anything for this much.
And that's what people don't understand.
That power will bring the pure demonic devil out of you.
If that's who your god is.
And this fucker was like, she's like, you want to make a real man?
We steal...
joe rogan
Boys.
unidentified
Stupid little boys.
jim breuer
We bring them...
Pleasure Island.
And then you see the fact, he goes, Pleasure Island?
unidentified
And he goes, no, no, no, they don't come back as little boys.
joe rogan
So you've got to think, in 1940, when they're writing this, the guys that are writing this, they must have probably heard stories about children getting sex trafficked.
They must have heard those stories, because we've heard those stories.
We've heard those stories as adults, where there was always stories about some weird Government in Italy was to say where the original story was written the donkey is a symbol of stupidity the moral behind pleasure island Is that little boys who scoff at education and moral codes set forth by their parents preachers and authority figures will engage in Jackass behavior instead such as fighting vandalism underage drinking and often destined to grow up to become men who have no option to To make a living except through back
-breaking manual labor, and there are plenty of people in the world, such as the coachman, who will take advantage of that.
I think maybe there's a little more going on there.
Your interpretation of that, that's such a shallow interpretation of them kidnapping boys.
And saying they don't come back as boys?
jim breuer
We're just trying to help their education.
joe rogan
And that he's evil, so like, what value would he have for the- what's the value of those boys if you're not sexualizing them?
Like, it seems like that's a very specific possibility that's happening.
jim breuer
Just very incredible that no one talks about that.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen any of those documentaries about, like, government officials who get busted?
jim breuer
Oh.
joe rogan
It's wild, man.
There must be a certain group, like a secret group of people that have been engaging in stuff like that for a long time.
jim breuer
Well, think about this.
Do you remember, let's say...
I'm going to say...
Maybe early 90s?
I could be wrong.
Do you remember there was a girl that was kidnapped and they found her?
And they were hiding her as like a religious thing.
They had her in the woods.
They did a magazine article on her.
They did a...
joe rogan
Jessica McClure.
jamie vernon
Baby Jessica?
jim breuer
She was a teenager.
Anyway, they found her, horrible things, kidnapped her, blah blah blah, kept her in the woods, all that jazz.
When you hear that a sexual predator, you know, pedophile is a nice, very kind word for viciously raping a child.
At the end of the day, you are viciously tearing apart a child's body, soul, and their being.
Pedophile is too nice of a word to throw around.
And so...
I remember 80s, 90s, you hear one person.
There were guys in Ohio, people in Ohio.
They had the girl, they'd had them tied up in the basement.
This was huge news.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
How many times in the last year or two, even just recently, oh, 12 people caught sex trafficking.
Hey, Ukraine!
Hey, gender rights!
Hey, spy balloon!
Why does that not get more attention?
They'll scream.
Oh, these shootings!
Yes, they're horrifying.
But you care about children?
joe rogan
Well, if you care about children- And you're just gonna let an article like that just- All the children that are coming in through the border.
Did you see that thing that Carrie Lake tweeted?
jim breuer
Horrifying!
joe rogan
Do you see what she tweeted?
jim breuer
No.
Carrie?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
What'd she tweet?
joe rogan
It's the thing you can find about today.
About an eight-year-old girl that had been repeatedly raped.
That they found all this DNA insider from a bunch of different individuals.
jim breuer
Eight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
But we're gonna...
And nobody...
And that's...
There's such a...
joe rogan
The fucking border thing is wild.
jim breuer
It's very wild.
It's dark.
joe rogan
It's like...
jim breuer
And they set it up with Trump.
They were like, he's got him in cages.
And whatever happened, whatever.
It made you just like, we need to go help the border.
And it was almost the setup for what's going on now.
Just shut your face.
joe rogan
The crazy thing was when Trump said...
Actually, Obama...
Built those cages.
unidentified
Yes!
jim breuer
And he did.
joe rogan
Here it is.
A precious eight-year-old little girl was found at our border with 67 different traces of DNA inside her.
In Joe Biden's America, little girls get raped by 67 different men.
Did you pay your taxes today?
Perhaps some of that money could be sent to fix our border instead of whatever the rest of her...
jim breuer
Ukraine.
I doubt she wrote that.
joe rogan
We don't know if that's a true story.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
All I'm doing is just reading her tweet.
Yeah.
If it was six different people, that's fucking insane.
jim breuer
But you can't be naive to think something like that is going on.
joe rogan
Dude, this is all insane.
It's all insane that there's people that live in such horrific conditions, they'll risk their life to try to come to America.
Right.
That's where everyone's tugging on your heartstrings.
Because I get it.
I get that part of it.
But if you're just going to let people pile into the country, then people are going to keep coming.
They're going to know that they can pile into the country.
And they're going to make it through there.
And along with them are going to be some despicable criminals.
So it's not just people that want a better life.
It's definitely people that want a better life.
Also, definitely despicable criminals.
and those make it into America with no way to stop it.
And unless they get caught and sent back and there's no real consequence to that, what happens?
You get sent back?
Okay, I'll try again.
And they go back and forth.
jim breuer
Do you think the natives are laughing?
joe rogan
Native Americans?
jim breuer
Yeah.
And what I mean by that, you think they're like, I'm sorry, what's going on with you guys?
joe rogan
Getting invaded.
jim breuer
Getting invaded?
joe rogan
How weird.
jim breuer
That's a bummer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Huh.
joe rogan
Are they carrying smallpox?
No, then I don't want to hear about it.
You got off light.
jim breuer
Yeah.
A lot.
They're like working and stuff.
What are they doing?
joe rogan
Did we ever figure, they think that smallpox, we brought smallpox to the Native Americans, but the Native Americans might have given syphilis to us.
That might have been how syphilis made its way back to Europe.
There was like two different kinds of syphilis, they think.
They think one of them, I think, they're saying might have come from them fucking animals.
So it's like literal like VD from animals.
jim breuer
What kind of animal you think?
joe rogan
Like sheep and shit like that.
Dudes banging sheep.
jim breuer
I can see that.
joe rogan
And then they bang people too.
And they gave everybody syphilis.
There's like, I believe there's that form.
And I think there's another form that they think like Columbus might have brought back from like, it's like it was similar around that time.
When the syphilis outbreak hit Europe.
It was when people returned from the New World.
I wonder if that's been proven yet.
jim breuer
Yeah, that's another thing.
I'm literally at the point, Joe.
I don't know what to believe about anything anymore.
joe rogan
Medieval DNA suggests Columbus didn't trigger syphilis epidemic in Europe.
Skeletons provide first DNA evidence of the diverse strain of syphilis circulated in Europe before 1492. Right, but I think what they're saying is there was always a syphilis, but that syphilis was the syphilis that came from fucking animals, and that the syphilis that came from North America was different.
I think that was the thing that I had read.
jim breuer
You think we're the only species that does that?
joe rogan
That gives each other VD? No.
jim breuer
No, no, no, no.
Inter-animal.
Like, is a zebra gonna check out a hippo?
joe rogan
There's many videos of, like, chimps go fucking a bullfrog.
Chimps would take a bullfrog and go, just shut the fuck up.
It's so crazy.
It's so rude.
And you watch, imagine this poor frog.
unidentified
It's rude.
joe rogan
Giant chimp dick is just getting stuffed into your little frog mouth.
Like, holy fuck.
Imagine if that's your life.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
A chimp with his vice-like grip takes you and forces your mouth open and stuffs his cock inside of it and just skull fucks you.
Like, look at this chimp.
What's he doing?
unidentified
Oh, no!
jamie vernon
He's holding the frog there.
joe rogan
He's holding the frog, so he's walking with it while he's fucking it.
That's so rude.
That is so rude.
So he's gonna take the frog.
Hey, come here, motherfucker.
unidentified
Look, he just grabs his frog, and he just forces it on its dick.
joe rogan
He uses the frog as, like, a little living fleshlight.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
How crazy is that, bro?
jim breuer
It's rude.
joe rogan
It's so rude.
Imagine that's the end of your life, just getting your life fucked away by a giant chimp.
He just grabs you, and you're like, ah!
You see his dick coming towards you.
He just opens your mouth up.
Look at this.
He just takes his dick and, like, stuffs it in this frog.
This pro frog is like, what the fuck is going on now?
He doesn't even want to, like, hold him in place.
The frog, like, gets out.
He's like, no, no, no.
Back onto my dick.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
He forces it open with his finger and then stuffs his dick in there.
What a psycho.
What a fucking psycho.
Chimps are psychos.
jim breuer
Well, that's what happens when you steal them and you put them in a cage to live the rest of their life.
They gotta go psycho!
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet they did that in the wild, too.
jim breuer
You think?
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're around bullfrogs.
They might not have been around bullfrogs in the wild.
They might have fucked them all to death.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
They might have had frogs there at one point in history.
unidentified
The chimps just fucked the frogs to death.
jim breuer
Fucked the whole species out of their existence.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Oh, that hurt, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not good.
jim breuer
That hurt.
Can I pee?
joe rogan
Yeah, let's pee.
jim breuer
I gotta pee.
joe rogan
I'll pee, too.
We'll be right back, folks.
jim breuer
Oh, my God.
Gym and nap.
joe rogan
You're a napper.
jim breuer
I'm not, but my body's tired.
joe rogan
Yeah, travel.
jim breuer
I've been traveling the last two, three days.
joe rogan
Travel's rough, dude.
It's rough.
jim breuer
And then staying out later than Mr. Brewer stays out.
joe rogan
Yeah, you bailed on the burgers.
jim breuer
I'm happy I bailed it.
I'm not lying to you.
joe rogan
Yeah, I generally don't eat burgers, but when I do, I eat three double cheeseburgers.
jim breuer
But your metabolism is a thousand times more than mine right now.
Like me, I just have like...
One burger, and now I've got a week to try to get this thing out.
My tits are going to start drooping.
And then I feel bad.
joe rogan
I couldn't stop eating them last night.
I ate three of them at two in the morning.
jim breuer
I watched you.
I watched your buddy making them.
I woke up this morning and saw the feed.
joe rogan
How good did they look?
Oh my god, you should have smelled it.
jim breuer
They looked good, but I tapped out.
unidentified
I was done.
joe rogan
The thing about a cheeseburger, and this is what I respect what Phillip has done.
Phillip Franklin Lee, who's a Michelin star chef, and he runs Sushi by Scratch.
What is that, in Cedar Park?
It's in Cedar Park, I think.
And he runs the one in Miami.
We went to the one in Miami.
He decided to take his level of understanding how to cook and apply it to something simple and just make the perfect cheeseburger.
And this experience, what I had, this is the best ever.
jim breuer
This last night?
joe rogan
When you're really hungry, yeah.
Because I'm literally hovering over the grill.
So Philip is cooking for us.
He cooked for everybody.
We're all hanging out.
We're watching him do it.
I'm smelling it.
I'm over.
I'm the whole thing.
I'm documenting it and sniffing it and then I ate it.
It was fucking amazing.
jim breuer
You're panting.
joe rogan
Wagyu burgers.
They're very fatty.
Then he puts the onions on it and the fucking jalapenos and pickles.
jim breuer
Butter the roll?
joe rogan
No, no.
He uses this mayo that has hot sauce in it and stuff.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fucked up dude.
jim breuer
No, I didn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're trying to drag you.
Jim does not take peer pressure.
It bounces right off.
jim breuer
No, I did a little bit just to go on that stage in that little room.
I wanted nothing to do with that.
I wanted nothing to do with a set last night.
Dude, I was up till like 2 in the morning going, I'm fucking going back tomorrow and I'm going to do it my way.
I'm not hanging out with Joe and the guys.
I'm going to care about what I'm going to do and not pretend to nonchalant.
I'm coming back with some vengeance.
Okay.
joe rogan
You don't have to, like, listen to us.
You don't have to stay up.
jim breuer
No, I know, but that's what I enjoy.
joe rogan
I enjoy it, too.
jim breuer
You enjoy that, that's that, the child inside.
You need to keep the child alive.
And my child is, um, I like bringing a kid out, but also, I got responsibilities.
Wow.
Take care of yourself.
No!
My body, I was done.
I was already looking at it tomorrow like, this is gonna be a bad...
joe rogan
You're just tired.
Yeah.
I get it.
I've been tired.
jim breuer
I was tired.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
And I already ate twice.
Yeah, I get it.
If I didn't eat...
joe rogan
I get it.
jim breuer
I know you do.
joe rogan
Those burgers, though.
Jesus, those are good.
jim breuer
See, I'm still working on this right here.
joe rogan
I see.
jim breuer
See, I say I'm working on it.
It's very lazy.
It's not lazy like...
joe rogan
What do you do?
jim breuer
I do the side thing with the pulley.
Side pulley.
joe rogan
Okay.
jim breuer
And then the weight's over.
I'll be on the bench doing that.
joe rogan
Do those?
jim breuer
A little bit of those.
Hang from the bar.
Do the leg lifts.
That's it.
joe rogan
Just get a little something going.
jim breuer
Just get a little something then, you know.
joe rogan
It's definitely better than nothing.
Yeah.
jim breuer
Ride my bike a lot.
unidentified
Love.
joe rogan
That's great.
jim breuer
That's what I love about Florida.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jim breuer
Flat.
joe rogan
What about alligators?
You ever see one?
jim breuer
Yeah, I go kayaking with them.
unidentified
Jesus.
jim breuer
They're not going to bother you.
joe rogan
Jesus.
jim breuer
They're not going to bother you.
joe rogan
Until they do.
Until they do.
jim breuer
There is a little something intimidating about...
Until they do.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm very afraid of them.
You're not afraid of them at all?
jim breuer
No.
joe rogan
They're dinosaurs.
jim breuer
Let me get it back.
If I was in the water?
Yeah, I'm very...
joe rogan
Kayak, you're so close to the water.
jim breuer
I'm right in the water.
joe rogan
You're in the water with a kayak.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Your nuts and your asshole.
jim breuer
And when they see...
joe rogan
Touching the bottom of that thing, maybe it comes and scrapes underneath your nuts and asshole because it's like literally like inches below the kayak, ready to flip it.
jim breuer
I don't...
joe rogan
Maybe he's hungry.
jim breuer
I think they're freaked out.
joe rogan
Maybe he ate all the ducks.
jim breuer
He might, I don't think so.
And when they're pissed at you, what they'll do is they'll go in front of you, and then they'll slap their tail.
Oh no.
And then they'll submerge.
joe rogan
Oh my god, what if they slap their tail and it fucks your kayak up and it starts taking water?
jim breuer
And then I gotta start swimming.
Wait for them.
joe rogan
In that water, watch those things, because they do eat people.
jim breuer
Oh yeah!
joe rogan
Oh yeah!
jim breuer
They took one out, well, they took an old lady out.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was in South Carolina, right?
Wasn't it?
jim breuer
No, I think it was Florida.
joe rogan
It was Florida?
jim breuer
Yeah, yeah.
It was an old people home.
She had no chance.
It was horrible.
She had the dog.
She tried to save the dog.
It was horrible.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Old people home and your neighbor gets killed by a dinosaur.
jim breuer
You're watching it.
You're watching it.
Horrible.
I feel horrible for the family.
I apologize for even bringing that up.
joe rogan
Make it to 86 and get taken out by a fucking alligator.
jim breuer
By a gator!
Out of all the things you've seen.
joe rogan
Oh, Florida's so crazy with that.
jim breuer
Dude, there's a rattlesnake in front of my house.
joe rogan
Do you know that Florida and the Everglades, 99% of all mammals are missing?
jim breuer
Yes, you told me that from the pythons.
You can now hunt pythons.
Anyone can hunt them.
joe rogan
What is this guy doing?
jamie vernon
Do you see it in the corner?
unidentified
Where, where, where?
joe rogan
Oh, right there.
unidentified
Right there.
joe rogan
Oh, it's coming towards me.
It bumps his kayak.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Wait, wait.
jim breuer
I don't see him.
joe rogan
Look, look, look.
You don't see it?
jim breuer
Do that again.
Do that again.
joe rogan
Look, it's coming right in the left-hand side.
Watch.
Watch this.
Here comes.
unidentified
Oh shit!
joe rogan
Oh, fuck!
Keep it going.
unidentified
Keep it going.
jim breuer
Yeah, keep it going.
I want to see what happens to him.
He's fine.
joe rogan
He's fine.
jamie vernon
That's how we got the video.
joe rogan
That's true.
jamie vernon
They didn't find us on a dead body.
jim breuer
Yeah!
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about.
unidentified
Get it?
joe rogan
Like I said, I just did that earlier.
See, well, I'll be- I didn't get it from that.
jim breuer
Well, I'll be honest with you.
joe rogan
I haven't seen that before.
jim breuer
Well, I'll be honest with you.
unidentified
Behind my house- It's monster soup.
jim breuer
There is monster soup.
I do go kayaking in the monster soup.
joe rogan
That's what it is, dude.
jim breuer
But they do have mangroves, right?
So they get these mangrove tunnels.
joe rogan
Swamps.
jim breuer
And everyone's like, you should go in the mangrove.
We can make it all the way to the bay towards Naples.
joe rogan
Or not.
jim breuer
Yeah, fuck that.
I feel better in the open water, because I feel like the gator's less threatened, but in where that guy was, I don't know if I can do that.
joe rogan
He thought that that was like an invader.
That gator thought that that was an invader.
jim breuer
And if it's mating season, that's another thing.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jim breuer
Right.
He's going to take you out.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Is that the same guy?
jamie vernon
No, this is just close encounters on a kayak.
jim breuer
Oh my god.
Yeah, that's way...
That's a big boy.
There's no reason to be that close.
joe rogan
Bro.
jim breuer
Why is he hovering there?
joe rogan
Fuck those things.
Because he's an asshole.
jim breuer
Oh, that's not even...
That's a paddleboard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
You've got to be out of your...
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Bro, that alligator's an asshole.
jamie vernon
It's chilling.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
These people are crazy.
jim breuer
They're crazy.
joe rogan
Why would they do that on a paddleboard?
Those things are so unstable.
jim breuer
All right, now is this guy coming to us?
Is this on the...
joe rogan
These are all close encounters.
These people are crazy to do this.
jim breuer
I've got one of those.
joe rogan
Oh, it's fishing in one of those things.
jim breuer
The Hobies?
joe rogan
Those things look fun.
jim breuer
The Hobies where you pedal with your legs.
joe rogan
Those look dope.
jim breuer
They're so amazing.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
This doesn't seem good.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He's going to have a gator under there.
jim breuer
Oh, shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I bet he thinks he's got a catfish.
jim breuer
Right.
He's all excited.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And as he pulls it up, he's going to see a gator.
jamie vernon
I think he did a weird stutter.
jim breuer
Oh shit!
I missed it!
joe rogan
Watch the mouth.
Look at this.
unidentified
Oh!
jim breuer
Wow!
joe rogan
Bro, that's a huge gator.
Look at the mouth.
jim breuer
Wow!
jamie vernon
Oh my god.
Don't do that.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Bro.
jim breuer
Alright, you got me double thinking the kayaking.
joe rogan
Good, thank you.
jim breuer
I've been in there a couple times.
joe rogan
I don't want to lose you to a python.
Have you seen a python?
jim breuer
I've not.
I've seen a rattlesnake.
Now, there's a guy that I started hanging out with that hunts pythons and he wants to bring me on a python hunt.
joe rogan
You have to go.
jim breuer
I feel like I have to go.
joe rogan
I feel like you have to go.
I would go.
jim breuer
See, I'm doing things I never thought in my life I'd be doing.
Like, I told you.
The hunting.
I'm going to hunt for turkey.
joe rogan
Hunting turkey's a good one.
jim breuer
I feel like I cheated, though.
joe rogan
Why?
jim breuer
The guy was so good.
Like meaning...
joe rogan
Oh, the call on the turkey guy?
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
jim breuer
It was that guy Mike, I told you.
Mike...
Yes!
He was so good.
What's his last name?
You knew him.
Yes!
joe rogan
Mike Waddell.
jim breuer
Yes!
joe rogan
Yeah, Mike Waddell's a world-famous hunter.
jim breuer
And that's what you said.
But, you know, when he sets up the two girls...
joe rogan
He couldn't have gone with a better guy.
He couldn't have gone with a more qualified, more knowledgeable hunter.
jim breuer
And that's what, he was incredible.
unidentified
And...
joe rogan
Guy's great.
Conservationist.
Very knowledgeable.
He's great.
jim breuer
I had an incredible time.
Where am I going with this?
joe rogan
Shot a turkey.
It was easy.
jim breuer
Yeah, before the turkey, though.
joe rogan
I think he took Theo Vaughn to turkey hunting, too.
Didn't he take Theo Vaughn hunting?
jim breuer
Yes.
He was right after me.
Theo landed.
That's perfect.
joe rogan
Turkey's a good thing to shoot because you don't feel bad for them.
I don't know why.
It's like you feel bad for a deer that you shoot even though you know that you're gonna eat it and that's why you're there.
There's a sense of loss with a deer that you don't get with a turkey.
It's weird.
jim breuer
That's interesting.
joe rogan
They blow their brains out with a shotgun, and then you're like, alright.
jim breuer
I felt...
It's really funny.
I mean, I was with this guy Ira Dean and Mike, and they would laugh their ass off because they're used to this.
There's a picture of me holding the turkey.
Oh, damn!
joe rogan
There it is.
jim breuer
I don't think Ira put out the other one.
Ira's on the right.
There's another one.
joe rogan
It's a big-ass turkey.
jim breuer
Yeah, I know they're not going to...
But what they didn't show...
Damn, I wish I had the picture.
joe rogan
You were cruddling the turkey before it died?
jim breuer
Yes!
joe rogan
That's weird.
That's creepy.
jim breuer
I just wanted to look at it up close.
I never saw a turkey up close.
So I'm looking at him, and then while...
Yeah, man, I'm looking at him, and I'm feeling it.
I'm like, wow, so this is what it's like.
And then Ira will come up, and he takes the beak.
He's like...
Good shot, Jim!
unidentified
I'm trying to have a moment.
jim breuer
Like, oh, I'm gonna eat you.
unidentified
That's the thing.
joe rogan
Nobody would do that with a deer.
Like, hello, Jim.
How are you?
You just killed me.
Don't you feel bad?
They wouldn't do that with a deer.
Like, people are more respectful to mammals.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I'm more respectful to mammals for some strange reason.
jim breuer
Yeah, rather than a bird.
joe rogan
Yeah, I feel like zero connection to birds.
Like, I don't want a pet bird.
You know?
unidentified
Right.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
Pet dog, pet cat, even pet weird pets.
Like, pet horse.
I get it.
jim breuer
Yeah, I get it too.
joe rogan
Yeah, but like a pet snake, the fuck are you doing?
You got a monster that lives with you.
You got a monster that you feed.
That's all that is.
That is a heartless serpent.
Yeah, they size you up.
And the only reason why they're not eating you is because you're not big enough.
Or they're not big enough.
jim breuer
They're not big enough.
But this is what I was talking about.
The guy, the python hunting.
I think in Florida now, anyone can hunt a python and you get a prize too.
You get money.
Then you get serious money.
I don't know if it's like a thousand bucks.
What?
joe rogan
Did you ever see the video of the guy, there's something wrong with his ceiling.
And they're pulling on the ceiling and the pythons were in the ceiling and it collapses.
And you see like three or four pythons are in this fucking ceiling.
jim breuer
And they're huge.
unidentified
Huge.
jim breuer
Huge.
joe rogan
You're like, where the fuck is that place?
And how do I make sure I never go there?
Where was it?
Malaysia?
Holy shit, Malaysia.
Watch this video.
This is so crazy.
Look at this.
jim breuer
Look at the size of them!
joe rogan
Bro!
How many is there?
There's two?
Three?
There's the tail.
That might be one.
Three.
Three all over ten feet long.
In the fucking ceiling!
jim breuer
Even when you get them out, how are you going back to sleep?
How do you go back to sleep after that?
joe rogan
You're never going back to sleep, and you're not getting them out.
They obviously have nested up there.
Oh my god.
jim breuer
Look at the size of them.
joe rogan
Look at the size of these motherfuckers.
So they must have heard them scurrying around the ceiling.
jim breuer
They caught one in my development.
joe rogan
A python?
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
How big was it?
jim breuer
I think it was like 10 feet.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jim breuer
And that's like...
joe rogan
I mean, they found a record-sized one recently.
I think it was 18 feet.
I think it was 18 or 19 feet.
And they think they get bigger.
Like, they don't even know how big they ultimately get.
This is not their environment, right?
jamie vernon
Did you see this video?
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
These guys were...
joe rogan
Pulling out a snake?
jamie vernon
No, they got in trouble.
It's at a pet store or something like that.
joe rogan
Killing over 300 pythons and a boa constrictor.
jamie vernon
But they killed the wrong one or something like that.
One of these was pregnant and had like 50 inside of it or something.
joe rogan
So why are they killing these things?
I mean, they're in Florida and they're Oh, so now he realized he killed the wrong one?
jamie vernon
The longer video of them killing it is pretty intense.
joe rogan
I don't need to see that.
The whole thing is weird that they allowed those as exotic pets and then these people just let them go in the swamp.
jim breuer
Right.
And then they just keep multiplying.
Don't you remember that too?
joe rogan
Apparently that's only a part of the problem though.
I thought that was the whole problem.
Another part of the problem was that there was a wildlife research facility where they were studying pythons.
And somehow or another, it got destroyed in a storm.
And the pythons got out.
unidentified
Oh, the Hurricane Andrew, I think, right in the 90s.
joe rogan
So yeah, so that's also part of the problem.
So some of it is exotic pets.
And some of it is these ones that they release from this research facility.
jim breuer
But it's more mind-boggling to me how just a couple can turn into completely taken over.
joe rogan
They took over everything because they're invasive.
Nothing knows to fear them.
jim breuer
But even when they're little, don't you think...
I figured, what is the survival rate if they're in the water with gators and you have bobcats?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Hurricane Andrews, it was that.
That is part of the python problem.
I think they don't know exactly which percentage comes from the pets from the 1970s and shit people let go.
Thousands of specimens of exotic species escape their cages and enclosures during the passing of the storm through the Wow, hundreds.
And now those hundreds are half a million.
There's a half a million pythons, they estimate.
So, because Burmese python invasion of South Florida Everglades, populations of raccoons and opossums dropped roughly 99%, and some species of rabbits and foxes effectively disappeared.
Species that had long flourished here were being decimated by the aggressive newcomers.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's amazing.
jim breuer
Yeah, that's why it's a free-for-all now.
unidentified
Go ahead, go get them.
joe rogan
It is a free-for-all.
You know what else they've spotted in the Everglades?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They spotted Nile crocodiles.
So they don't know how they got in there.
They don't know if it's someone's pet, but they had a kill on sight order for Nile crocodiles.
They don't know if it's a breeding pair.
They don't know.
They have spotted at least one Nile crocodile in the Everglades.
jim breuer
Crocodile's a whole different animal.
joe rogan
That's a whole different animal.
jim breuer
It's a whole different set.
joe rogan
That's like a wolf compared to a German Shepherd.
jim breuer
Right.
I was in Costa Rica, kids, we're just doing like a vacation, staying in whatever, and I remember being in the water, in the beach.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Yeah, swimming around, and I didn't go, the beach dropped off where we were.
It was like a river that, and the ocean was close, and It dropped by a little bit.
I mean, I was in there.
I was toying around.
I wouldn't go too deep, and I stayed close.
And the next day, we went back there.
It was a big freaking...
joe rogan
Crocodile slide.
jim breuer
No, he was banked on there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
And I went, oh my god!
And I just couldn't believe no one else was in the water.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Could've been it.
jim breuer
It could've been it!
joe rogan
Could've been it.
jim breuer
See that?
I'm safe in Florida.
Kayakin'.
joe rogan
We went on a tour of the Crocodile Habitat with my kids when they were...
The youngest were like...
They were probably like six and eight.
Somewhere around then.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it was so creepy, dude.
I was so, like, every time they moved, like, get away from the edge.
Get away from the edge.
I was like, I was so hover parenting, which is like, and the kids are crazy.
Like, I want to sit on the railing.
I'm like, fuck, no, you can't sit on the railing.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
Like, don't do this.
Like, if you go in that water, I'm going in that water, too, and we're both going to die.
jim breuer
You see the guy?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
The guy who did that?
joe rogan
What happened?
jim breuer
The guy with the dog?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I did see that, but that was a little one.
jim breuer
It was a little dog, but yeah.
joe rogan
Little gator, too.
It wasn't a big gator.
And that guy did get his dog back.
That guy's a fucking savage.
jim breuer
I don't know how you did that with your kids.
You must have been freaking out.
joe rogan
Freaking out.
Freaking out.
And we saw them, and they slide into the water right in front of you.
There was this alligator slide, or crocodile slide, rather, so you're on this body of water.
And then right where the bank is, you see the crocs sunning themselves.
And then you see them slide into the water.
It's so creepy.
jim breuer
It is creepy.
joe rogan
It's so creepy.
Because they are just killing machines.
And you're in just this fucking boat.
It's just a boat.
jim breuer
And you see them on land, too.
You don't think they're fast.
They can move on land.
joe rogan
Or they move.
jim breuer
They move quick.
joe rogan
They move faster than we can.
They can run faster than us.
jim breuer
Wait, what is this?
jamie vernon
It says hundreds of alligators or crocodiles behind them.
I don't know.
joe rogan
In their tent?
So they camped on the beach?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're hanging out.
jim breuer
Did you see the one on the right?
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at that.
He looks outside his tent.
jim breuer
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Oh my god!
You literally camped at the spot where they go.
jim breuer
Where they knew he was there and they were going to go eat him.
unidentified
What the fuck do you do?
joe rogan
What the fuck do you do there?
jamie vernon
Do you leave?
joe rogan
Do you leave?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if you run into another group of them?
jim breuer
Right!
joe rogan
Like higher up the hill.
unidentified
Right!
joe rogan
Imagine you're out of breath.
You're running up the hill.
Running up the hill.
And you get to the top and you realize there's more alligators up there.
jim breuer
There's ten times the amount.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And you're out of breath now.
You know you can't run.
jamie vernon
I mean, you've got to do some research before you go there, I think.
jim breuer
You know what freaks me out more?
joe rogan
Young kids.
They're reckless.
jim breuer
You know what freaks me out more is the Komodo dragons.
joe rogan
Oh, they're terrifying.
jim breuer
I follow something with them, too.
They're hard.
They eat the whole goat.
joe rogan
Their mouth, too.
That fucking shit that drips out.
The slime.
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
They're so creepy.
Do you remember when Sharon Stone's husband got bit by one of those?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
He bit his foot.
Yeah, he went to the zoo.
jamie vernon
Here's a follow-up.
The alligators got the tent.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jim breuer
Look at all of them.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Hey, bro.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
That is crazy.
So they overcame the tent.
So this guy just had to run away.
jim breuer
Oh, they're in Zambia.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that was a different story.
joe rogan
Where are they?
jim breuer
Zambia?
joe rogan
Oh, those are crocodiles.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's scarier.
That's way scarier.
unidentified
Brazil.
jim breuer
Brazil.
joe rogan
Oh, so those are caimans.
Well, where was he?
He wasn't in Brazil.
He's Brazilian.
He's Brazilian.
So where was he doing this?
Does it say?
jamie vernon
It can't work out very well.
jim breuer
I feel like I saw it.
joe rogan
Does it say at the top?
jamie vernon
This clip comes after a British genius.
This is a different thing.
This is different down here.
joe rogan
Okay, that's a different story.
So go up to the very top.
Does it say where it was?
It says, waking up and find a nest of crocodiles invading his tent.
Honestly, it seemed to me they look like alligators.
Can I see that again?
I'm not sure if those were crocodiles.
All of them are fucking terrifying.
jim breuer
They look like alligators.
joe rogan
Can I see the video again?
Here we go.
We have to watch a Ray-Bans ad?
This is his ad?
Oh, this is his TikTok?
Oh, you're never going to find it.
Where did it go, though?
You had it before, right?
Oh, there it is.
Okay.
Let me look at those.
That was it.
Yeah, those are crocodiles.
Aren't they?
No, they're alligators.
unidentified
I don't know.
jim breuer
They look like gators because their snout is round.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's round.
They look like alligators.
Huh.
unidentified
Either way.
joe rogan
Anyway, he fucked up.
Whatever they are, it's not good.
jim breuer
It's not good.
joe rogan
One of my favorite stories I heard about an alligator getting a guy was his cops were on a high-speed pursuit with this dude.
He had a stolen car.
I think it was a stolen car.
Anyway, he gets to a bridge and jumps off.
To try to escape and jumps into the water and immediately gets killed by a gator.
jim breuer
Boom.
Done.
joe rogan
Like literally landed next to one.
He's like, oh, free lunch.
Snap.
jim breuer
There was a guy in Florida.
I think he was on his bicycle.
And he tripped.
Lost thing.
And he rolled.
Just perfect place.
Gator.
joe rogan
Snap.
jim breuer
The gator got him.
I don't think he killed him.
I think he tore his arm.
joe rogan
Probably freaked the gator out.
jim breuer
Well, yeah, the gators are just hanging out, and all of a sudden here comes this tumbling.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jim breuer
But yeah, I think about that too, because where I take my bike out, the water's got gators in it, and I'm always like, okay, maybe I shouldn't mess around.
joe rogan
How many Florida Panthers are there?
Are they common?
I saw a nice video the other day.
This guy was turkey hunting.
And this panther didn't realize he was there.
And the panther's just walking right by him as he was turkey hunting.
He's like, you know, covered in camo and shit.
And this turkey's like...
I mean, this panther's walking by his turkey decoy.
jim breuer
Yep.
I think that's more in the...
Everglades area, because a lot of Florida's getting built up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Even where I'm at, I can't believe...
joe rogan
So many people moved there.
jim breuer
So many people.
joe rogan
How many people turned Republican?
It had to be more than a million.
jim breuer
I think I saw something where...
The ratio, too, was like 80 to 20. Florida is the most red state.
Yeah, like 80% or 70% registered.
joe rogan
Look how well DeSantis did in the last vote.
I mean, he just destroyed it.
jim breuer
Destroyed it.
joe rogan
That is a red state now.
And it's like the most sensible version of how to handle that pandemic.
And people don't want to admit that.
They want to think that there was something wrong with what they did.
I had this conversation with this one guy who was talking about all these cops that died of COVID. It's the biggest thing.
They're handling it so poorly.
No, it's because the cops are fat, man.
We all know the true story about that.
Everybody knows fat cops.
That's the problem.
That shit's really bad if you're obese.
jim breuer
There's also...
joe rogan
What's that, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Barely one.
joe rogan
This last one?
What year is that?
jamie vernon
2018, I guess?
joe rogan
No, that one he barely won.
He barely won when he got in office.
jim breuer
Yeah, and then the other guy got busted.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's 2018. Go to the 2022. Yeah.
So in 2022, though, I think he won by like 65% or something wacky, which is very rare.
jim breuer
He crushed...
I've never seen a state...
There we go.
joe rogan
Yeah, 59%.
unidentified
Yeah, the other guy got 40. Wow, look at...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's big.
jim breuer
That is really big.
joe rogan
It's a big change from 2018, that's for sure.
jim breuer
Well, it's a new refugee camp.
You get a lot of people from Chicago are fleeing there.
A lot of people from Chicago.
You got Californians...
For some reason going to Naples.
joe rogan
Did you see that video from Chicago with those kids?
jim breuer
Just ransacking?
joe rogan
They ran up to that white lady in front of her apartment and just beat the shit out of her.
jim breuer
Horrifying.
joe rogan
So crazy.
jim breuer
Horrifying.
joe rogan
That this is happening in modern 2023 in Chicago.
jim breuer
Right.
Can you imagine?
joe rogan
Giant groups of kids just beating a lady up for no reason.
jim breuer
Because she was white.
joe rogan
But imagine that.
jim breuer
She's a white...
Girl, and the look on her face, she probably has never even seen a fight, let alone been in a fight.
joe rogan
Sheer, complete terror, and they just beat the fuck out of her.
jim breuer
There's all hands of all different angles just beating you, and what is it, at the end of the day, what sparked it?
What created that madness?
What brings you to the state of I just got to beat someone because they look like that's madness.
joe rogan
It's also a recognition that law enforcement has lost control.
Like the fact that they can do that and they think they can do that as little kids.
There's like young teenagers doing this.
Smashing windows and meeting up in groups of hundreds.
Like what do they do?
Are they organizing on social media?
Like what are they doing?
Is that what they're doing?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
It's happening in lots of places.
joe rogan
And how is no one stopping that?
jim breuer
How is no one stopping that?
You don't see the organizing on social media?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's crazy.
jim breuer
With everything that's seen on your phone, they don't see certain things.
joe rogan
Yeah, how do you not see that?
jim breuer
Come on, man.
joe rogan
But I don't think the way the policing is in this country, the way people have lost respect for law enforcement, all that defund the police shit has real consequences.
And that's one of them.
You're seeing it right there.
It's so spooky, man.
It's so spooky how quickly things can deteriorate.
jim breuer
But they also dehumanize everything.
When you're a police officer, what you don't realize is...
Most of the times, those cops are the first ones to see your dead child.
You know the trauma that brings?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Like, if you got kids at home and you just...
You became an officer because you had a...
You grew up in a nowhere-out situation.
Or maybe your parents got divorced or whatever.
And the only way that you know to survive is you get a pension and blah, blah, blah.
And try to take the test.
You take a test.
You know, most people think cops are just, you know...
Most of the things they're showing up to is watching people maimed and killed...
And fighting and beating women.
I mean, the most horror for so many people in the fire department, police, you show up, and they're like, yeah, the kid's dead in the back.
You want to call the mom?
That's the side...
That no one will ever talk about.
And that's the side, you know, you just show a clip that happened at one particular incident and then the demons, we call it news media, the monsters, the creators of pure evil and violence and mind control and emotion control, spit out and then boom, they hit the nerve knowing they can manipulate and control and spread violence.
joe rogan
Well, it's also activists wanted to Say that the problem was cops are showing up, law enforcement, for things that should just involve counselors and that these cops are not qualified to do that so they're gonna defund that aspect of the police.
The problem is just that narrative alone devalues the police.
It's like you put this thing out there that we need to stop funding the police.
The police are the problem.
No, the crime is the fucking problem and the problem is no one does a damn thing to prevent long-term crime by Enriching communities by going into these places instead of spending 40 billion dollars to fight this fucking proxy war with Ukraine and Russia instead of doing that What about fixing these fucking cities that have been?
Economically disenfranchised since who the fuck knows when that's right Just decade upon decade upon decade of the same kinds of crime in the same neighborhoods And you expect people to come out of that and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
It's fucking ridiculous.
jim breuer
I remember well I remember the early 90s.
I was doing something in Harlem.
There was a show in Harlem.
It was a comedy club there.
The Uptown Comedy Club.
joe rogan
I remember that place.
jim breuer
Yeah.
And I spent...
I learned so much.
I had the most incredible conversation.
It was with Tracy Morgan.
And we were on the street.
And we just got so open and honest.
And we just started asking each other questions.
And when it came to things like welfare, I realized that is such a purposely driven, in my opinion, government trap.
And just the way he was explaining, he's like, you know, if I have a kid, they give you money.
And he's like, we don't have...
Options.
They keep us here.
They put certain foods here.
They offer to pay us money.
And I'd love to see the statistic of when welfare came out, how communities thrived or plummeted after that because they didn't have a drive for themselves.
They're under the illusion that they're going to be taken care of.
joe rogan
That is a very dangerous thing for people if you can keep them complacent and with a certain level of income.
And just just keep that amount of money where they don't have to do anything and a lot of people get conditioned and But the other thing is like how do you get people off of that?
Like without extreme willpower and discipline and like working really really hard to get off of that and then Deciding you're not going to accept that money anymore Like for some people it's easier to just stay in that little system and that goes on in every level Yeah.
jim breuer
That goes on every level.
When every finance level you hit, it kind of...
I mean, it gets easier the more finances, but...
joe rogan
It gets a lot easier.
jim breuer
It gets a lot easier.
joe rogan
It's a lot easier.
Yes, yes.
A, it's human nature, but B, there's a lack of hope.
So if you gave that welfare check to places where people are thriving and doing things they love to do, then it wouldn't be so bad because they just keep doing things they love to do and thriving, right?
And then maybe they would find other stuff to do for a living and they wouldn't need welfare.
If you're doing it to people that live in despair, that's when it's sick.
Like, there's something sick about it because it's like all you're doing is putting a little band-aid on it and you are giving people food and you are giving people shelter and that is good.
It's definitely better than them being homeless.
But that is not fixing anything.
And the only way to fix it is to give people hope.
And you can't have any hope when you live in a community where, like, everything's fucked.
jim breuer
Drugs run rapid, cigarettes, gangs, everything.
Everything runs rapid.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that's the real problem.
The real problem is people have a lack of hope, lack of positive role models.
Everybody that you know is either involved in crime or the victim of crime or avoiding crime or it's like you're dealing with constant violence and crime.
jim breuer
But give me your money, and I'll go fix Ukraine.
joe rogan
It's crazy, right?
It's like, how do we not address these problems in America?
How do they, like, whatever, the debates come up every year.
jim breuer
It's the same thing.
joe rogan
It's the same thing.
jim breuer
Pro-life, pro-choice.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're like, we're gonna get jobs, like, bitch, but you are not...
We have created so many jobs in this administration.
jim breuer
And we're gonna do so much for the military.
joe rogan
That's one thing I love about the new Twitter.
When anybody posts something, even from the White House, it gets fact-checked.
And the White House has had to pull tweets because they're just bullshit.
jim breuer
Thank God.
joe rogan
Thank the baby Jesus.
jim breuer
Thank God.
joe rogan
Yes.
Thank you, baby Jesus.
Thank you, baby Jesus.
Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft.
It's one of the greatest movies of all time.
Talladega Nights?
jim breuer
He is funny.
joe rogan
Bro.
jim breuer
He's funny.
joe rogan
Will Ferrell is funny.
He's so funny in that movie, too.
How have they not done Talladega Nights 2?
Someone please help me out.
jim breuer
He would go into character and stay in character for a week at a time.
At Saturday Night Live.
He would come in, he'd wear this vest, and he'd kind of grow his hair a little bit, and he wouldn't shave.
And it would drive people like Marcy Klein, like the producer, like, Will, you're representing Saturday Night Live here.
And we'd all be like, oh, he'd do that all week.
joe rogan
So they didn't like the way he was dressed?
jim breuer
No, because he would stay like that all week and stay in character.
Sometimes it would drive you nuts.
You know, like, if I want to talk to you...
If I want to talk to you, and every time I see you, you're like, I don't know.
joe rogan
Hello, Jim.
Good to speak to you today.
Will you be sailing with me this winter?
jim breuer
Correct.
And I go, Joe, I don't know who this Joe is, but I will seek him and tell him you're looking for him.
joe rogan
I read a story once where John Voight and Angelina Jolie were having a phone call, and in this story they were saying that they were talking in character.
The entire time.
Like, they had a conversation in character.
jim breuer
I've done that with my daughter.
We cook on Sundays and we do for fun.
Oh, these two.
joe rogan
Well, these two, they're wacky.
They're not funny.
Like, neither one of them is funny.
jim breuer
They just did it for the sake of doing it.
joe rogan
I think they were doing, like, acting exercises on the phone with each other.
They were talking in character.
jim breuer
Exercise, is that word?
Just acting exercises already makes me cry.
joe rogan
So part of me is already questioning me being critical of this, because now I'm thinking, but they are professional actors.
Would that be fun?
Because you're kind of working with your daughter then.
You're like working on a little exercise.
It's like if you were a painter and you painted a thing with your daughter, is that weird?
Like why is it weird?
Is the only time you talk, you should have to talk like normal?
Why shouldn't you be able to talk in character?
jim breuer
I think it hides emotions.
unidentified
I'm mad at myself.
joe rogan
I'm mad at myself for being upset at them.
I'm looking at him like, why am I being so critical of that?
They're literally professional actors at the highest level.
I mean, he was in fucking...
He was in...
Wasn't he in...
What was Jon Voight in?
That one movie with Dustin Hoffman.
Oh my god.
Midnight Cowboy.
jim breuer
Oh, I don't know if I saw that.
If I did, I don't remember it.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a wild movie.
Is that Midnight Cowboy...
Is that it?
Yeah.
That's a wild movie, man.
That's a movie about these street hustlers from the 1970s.
jim breuer
Oh, wow!
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Maybe I did see this.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jon Voight played some street hustler in New York City.
jim breuer
I've had to have seen this.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a great movie, man.
jim breuer
It's like HBO, early 80s.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
69. Oh, damn.
Yeah, it's a 1969 movie.
jim breuer
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
God, I haven't seen this in fucking 20 years.
More.
Maybe more than 20 years.
I need to watch it again.
jim breuer
Did you ever get into westerns?
joe rogan
Love westerns.
jim breuer
Clint Eastwood?
joe rogan
You know what I love?
The Unforgiven.
Because that's the most realistic of his westerns.
That's when he comes, he's like an older guy, and it's Morgan Freeman and him and Gene Hackman.
Oh, my God.
It's like, I think that's the best western of all time.
jim breuer
Is that the one that opens up and it's like, oh, no, not thinking of the way Metallica opens up their concert.
joe rogan
This is what it is.
It's like he did all those spaghetti westerns, which were amazing, but then he went back and did a real movie on what life in the West was like.
So instead of it being sort of glossed over spaghetti western like he did with The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and a lot of other things, this one was like horrific.
Like really probably accurate as to how brutal life in that time period was.
jim breuer
What did Gene Hackman play in this?
joe rogan
Gene Hackman was a sheriff.
He was like a fucked up asshole of a sheriff that Clint Eastwood winds up killing.
Spoiler alert.
jim breuer
I've seen this, but I have to watch this again.
I remember him.
He gets killed.
joe rogan
It's a heavy movie, man.
It's a heavy movie.
jim breuer
The boy gets killed.
He goes on the...
I remember this.
joe rogan
Well, Clint Eastwood was an assassin when he was younger.
And he got married and had a family and turned over a new leaf and was running a farm.
But he was raising his kids and they made him an offer to kill some people that had killed somebody.
And so he needed to because his farm was falling apart so he goes back into action.
But it's believable.
It's a really good movie.
It's so different than the style of movies that he used to do about westerns because he flipped it on its head and made it...
It's a horrific, it's not in any way glorified, like nothing's glorious, the people are cowards, it's like they're human, everything works and he's like reprehensible.
He's a complete sociopath that has no problem, just a psychopath, has no problem killing people.
It doesn't raise his heartbeat at all.
That's one of the reasons why he's so good at killing people.
He never freaks out.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
So he's calm in the face of everything.
Boom!
And everybody's like stumbling for their gun.
Oh, Jesus!
Boom!
And it's believable.
It's so creepy.
And it's so good, man.
It's a fucking great movie.
jim breuer
I'll have to watch that again.
I got into...
Actually, I started watching it on a plane because I don't watch a lot of TV. What is the series...
Where?
I'm the worst at this.
It was a Western, and they're settling, and they're bringing these people from Denmark or their Dutch across the country.
joe rogan
Deadwood?
unidentified
Yellowstone?
joe rogan
Yellowstone.
jim breuer
Yellowstone.
joe rogan
The early Yellowstones.
So, like, not Yellowstone, but the early ones, like the 18, whatever it is, and there's, like, three different Yellowstones that are running now.
jim breuer
Well, I want to say this one was more recent, and it's the guy, you know the guy in Casino that runs, he goes up to De Niro, he's like, I really like you to get my son to, I mean, my nephew to work again.
You know that actor?
What's his name?
Do you know his name?
joe rogan
Goddammit.
jim breuer
He's in this movie, And he's like taking them across the whole country.
joe rogan
So it's a movie, it's not a show.
jim breuer
I'm sorry, it's a series.
joe rogan
It's a series.
jim breuer
But I got hooked on this thing because there was some raw stuff in there.
joe rogan
So is it a Yellowstone, one of the early ones?
jamie vernon
Is it the show with Josh Brolin called Outer Rain?
jim breuer
I gotta see what it looks like.
It could be.
I think it's Yellowstone.
joe rogan
Dude, there's so many Yellowstone.
That Taylor Sheridan is a bad motherfucker.
jamie vernon
This is Outer Range.
joe rogan
That guy has put together some incredible shows.
Outer Range.
Josh Bolin is the fucking man, dude.
jim breuer
That ain't it.
joe rogan
I love that guy, too.
He's great in everything.
jim breuer
Josh Bolin?
joe rogan
Bolin.
jim breuer
Rolling.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Whatever.
jim breuer
It's not the Kevin Costner one.
joe rogan
Oh, the Kevin Costner one is the shit.
jim breuer
My wife was watching it.
I watched a couple of those.
joe rogan
That's another good movie.
Wyatt Earp.
jim breuer
Wild Overs.
Yes.
joe rogan
Wyatt Earp.
jim breuer
That there.
Boom.
unidentified
Boom.
jamie vernon
It is this one?
jim breuer
I feel like this chick was in it.
joe rogan
This one?
jim breuer
Yes, that one!
Wait, wait, go back!
I just, yes!
joe rogan
What is that?
jim breuer
Up there, that!
Oh my god!
joe rogan
1883. So yeah, that's the Yellowstone prequel.
That's like the early days of Yellowstone.
I've heard that's amazing.
jim breuer
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Yeah?
jim breuer
That one, maybe because I was on a plane, I was completely...
That!
joe rogan
That's Taylor Sheridan.
That's the same guy who did Yellowstone, right?
He did that as well, right?
Dude, he's the fucking man.
jim breuer
This was so...
Like, you can wrap your head around and go, oh, well, this makes more sense how it all went down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
This makes all the sense in the world.
And what you were saying with Clint Eastwood, how it's just...
They became accustomed to it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Like, because they would constantly be under attack, whether it was just for their supplies, or they wanted their girls.
And they weren't worried about natives, they were more worried about...
joe rogan
Yeah, other outlaws.
jim breuer
Bunch of monsters out there.
And, oh my god!
joe rogan
That makes more sense.
jim breuer
It was so good coming to steal your cattle, or coming to steal your horses.
joe rogan
The Wild West, man.
I mean, that's really what it was.
And those people made it across the country.
There were so many fucking bad people.
There were so many outlaws, and just horrific conditions, and no law enforcement, and just fucking chaos.
jim breuer
Well, there's a scene in there, and it actually reminded me, when I watched it last night, you did something last night.
It was a little part of one of the sets, and you're talking about the tribal, like, we used to, oh, you were like, we used to be able to just maim and kill.
joe rogan
For most of history, it was very horrific.
unidentified
Right.
jim breuer
Well, there's a scene in here that I thought...
It was described by the female who...
She's already lost...
I don't want to give it too much away.
But she's seen enough.
She's like a kid.
She fell in love.
But towards the end, she falls in love and this guy's protecting her and she's describing...
Almost what a turn on in the power of this guy.
The aggressive, revengeful anger of him just hatching.
This other guy.
And you don't even feel bad.
You're like, you know what?
unidentified
Fucker deserves to be hatched up for what he did.
jim breuer
And she's watching.
And this becomes the norm.
Just boom.
joe rogan
Killing someone with an axe.
jim breuer
Ah, took him out.
Took him out.
joe rogan
There's something about axe murderer.
It's like a very specific kind of murderer.
Literally, it's the only kind of murderer where you have a definition.
Like you have that word connected, like axe murderer.
No one calls you a gun murderer.
jim breuer
That's right.
joe rogan
But an axe murderer is a very specific definition.
jim breuer
That's interesting.
joe rogan
It is interesting.
Knife murderer?
jim breuer
Poison murderer?
joe rogan
Nope.
Axe murderer.
An axe murderer is a specifically brutal way to kill someone.
And it's terrifying for people because they don't feel like they could do anything about it.
jim breuer
No.
joe rogan
Someone's coming at you with an axe like, Jesus Christ, you don't have much room for error.
jim breuer
I've seen videos, but I know I'm not going to be able to pull it off under pressure.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, it's too scary.
jim breuer
You're supposed to get close.
joe rogan
Yeah, good luck.
jim breuer
Yeah, right?
Get close.
unidentified
Good luck.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good luck.
jim breuer
But the way she describes it, it reminds me of what you just said.
It's just become something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's what human beings...
That's how human beings existed for thousands and thousands of years.
They existed in these...
When you go back and listen to accounts of history...
jim breuer
How long do you think that lasted to?
And where did it last to?
Like, did that last...
Was that going on...
joe rogan
I have a very specific explanation for it, I think.
I think it has to do with the Younger Dryas impact theory.
I think that human beings, especially in Africa, had achieved an insanely high level of sophistication.
What they had done in Egypt is still, to this day, one of the most confusing things that anyone's ever been able to accomplish.
And the fact that That these people were able to accomplish it 4,000, 5,000 years ago or more.
They don't even know really how old some of that stuff is.
I think that when the asteroids impacted and the Ice Age ended, and there's a lot of evidence of this, like physical evidence all over the Earth.
They were smashed by asteroids.
I think it knocked human beings back into the fucking Stone Age.
And I think the people that survived had to survive in the most brutal and barbaric conditions, where society was completely eroded, where it was just chaos.
Most people were dead, and you survived if you were underground, you survived if you had gotten into caves, you survived if you had accumulated enough resources so you could make it through whatever amount of nuclear winter exists, from Pelted by giant rocks from space that literally ended the Ice Age and killed 65% of all the megafauna in North America.
65% of all the mammals died off quick.
Whether it's woolly mammoths, saber-toothed tigers, 65% of them just got wiped out in a very short period of time.
Probably because there was no food left over, probably because a lot of them got killed on the initial impact and through the floods.
And all this shit that happened when the ice caps melted.
And I think that the reason why people were so barbaric 3,000, 4,000 years ago, I think that's the ancestors of the people that survived that disaster.
And I think they had to be monsters.
I bet the early days there was a lot of cannibalism.
I bet people did whatever the fuck they could to just exist.
Right after the impacts, whatever people were left, I bet there was very few people left, and I bet their lives were hard as fuck.
jim breuer
I think that still exists.
To a degree.
joe rogan
Well, it definitely still exists to a degree.
jim breuer
It still exists, but they don't need no Ice Age to still act like that or have that built inside them.
joe rogan
Sure, but what I'm thinking is one of the reasons why you have such sophistication, like 5,000, 6,000, 7,000 years ago, 10,000 years ago, and then you have, like, thousands of years later, sheer barbarism.
Like, how'd that happen?
Because I think everything was stopped.
I think it all stopped, and I think the people were left in a fucking Mad Max world for a long-ass time.
I mean, when they talk about civilization restarting, right?
So if this happened 11,800 years ago, which is what they think happened, The earliest instances up until these theories of modern civilization was 6,000 years ago.
That's Sumer.
That's first mathematics, first written language, a lot of different things come out of this one part of the world.
But that's 5,000 years after the impacts.
So what if you have this sophisticated society of people that are operating probably at a higher level than we are now, just through some technology that we don't understand, And they get fucking annihilated by rocks from space.
And then whoever does exist, they exist in a horrific way for thousands of years before people reinvent civilization.
jim breuer
I don't know.
It's all too much for me.
I get that.
I just don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's a good way to talk about that.
I don't know either.
But it's one of my favorite subjects.
jim breuer
No, I know.
Me too.
It's fascinating.
I always want to know, like, where do certain things start?
Where does that start?
And how did it spread?
joe rogan
Why do I keep fucking up Graham Hancock's series?
It's Ancient Apocalypse, right?
jamie vernon
Correct.
joe rogan
I always say Ancient Catastrophe.
I almost said it again.
But it is Apocalypse.
Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix.
Watch it.
It's amazing.
It's a series of...
Graham Hancock, who's the master of this stuff, who really understands it better than anybody, and Randall Carlson.
Who's the master of...
He really understands the asteroid impacts and the impact theory.
And they put this together and they said there's like distinct evidence of a very advanced culture that we have no explanation for.
And it exists all over the world.
There's these stone structures in specific that are so complex and we don't know who did them.
We don't know how they moved them.
And all this evidence seems to point to that.
At one point in time, Human beings had reached a very high level of sophistication for design, for construction, for the ability to move stones and cut them.
Like, it's really high levels of construction to the point where, you know, you're getting all these stones to meet perfectly at the top of a massive pyramid.
That's 2,300,000 stones.
jim breuer
Well, not only that.
It's mind-boggling to think they're also in Mexico and possibly be buried under a mountain that looks like a mountain, but it's actually another pyramid that everything grew over.
joe rogan
Exactly.
It's all through the Amazon they find those, too.
That's mind-boggling to me.
Mind-boggling.
All through the Amazon, it's filled with these structures.
They use LIDAR and they scan the surface of the ground and find irrigation tracks and plots of land and grids for a city.
Wild shit, man.
jim breuer
Did you go to Egypt?
joe rogan
I have not been.
I want to go.
jim breuer
I went there and they were...
I don't know, man.
It's wild.
It's also weird to see, like, what the hell is that thing in Washington, D.C., the pointy thing.
joe rogan
Oh, the obelisk.
jim breuer
The obelisk.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
It's like, what is the meaning of that?
Because why is that in D.C.? And it was in Egypt.
joe rogan
It's in Rome as well.
It's in Rome.
There's an Egyptian obelisk that's in Rome.
In the middle of the Vatican.
jim breuer
That fascinates me.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
jim breuer
Like, what's the connection on the three of them, and why is it in D.C.? It's a good question.
joe rogan
And the original obelisks, man, when they find ones that they didn't wind up using because there's a crack, and you see them, like, carved out of stone, you're like, how the fuck were you going to move this?
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
What did you do?
How did you do this?
jim breuer
I started seeing stuff like that, because I remember my mom would talk about the World Fair.
joe rogan
Oh, that Chicago thing?
Where they turned on the lights for the first time?
jim breuer
No!
I saw that one too.
I think there was one in New York, but then I saw the thing in Chicago where they built everything up and it looked like a city and then just got rid of it like it was nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah, what was it?
Was it a facade?
Did they build a facade?
jim breuer
I don't know.
Was that a Disney set type thing or was that the real steel going down?
joe rogan
Some shady contracting deal going on there.
For sure, in Chicago, 100% that was the mob.
Hey, we gotta take it down now!
We got a fucking contract there!
jim breuer
It's no good.
joe rogan
The contract is we build and then we take it down.
Come on, I told you.
We made a fucking deal.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
Don't make me come visit you.
jim breuer
I put the Caesar up, I put everything you said.
Look, I make it all nice and everything.
joe rogan
Don't make me come visit you, you piece of shit.
jim breuer
Take it down.
joe rogan
The Vatican is insane, dude.
Have you been there?
jim breuer
I have not.
I went to Rome, but I didn't visit the Vatican.
joe rogan
God, you gotta go next time.
I went and I had a really cool guide.
We hired a professor.
He was this multi-language speaking professor.
Really interesting dude.
And he got really into it with me.
Like, we really, really got into all these different things.
He was so knowledgeable.
It was really cool.
jim breuer
Do you know who you were?
joe rogan
Did he know who you were?
Yeah, he was really cool.
He just gave me like the lowdown on, first of all, why they all have little dicks.
I was like, why they all have little dicks?
He told me that they thought that a large penis was like brutish and barbaric.
And they're like, some dude with a little dick had conned everybody into thinking that little dicks were the shit.
jim breuer
Simple propaganda.
Total propaganda.
unidentified
It's the most easiest.
jim breuer
It's like little dick guys.
joe rogan
Like, you don't want that big dick.
The big dick is talking about problems.
The big dick doesn't come with culture or agriculture or the civilization that we've created.
This beautiful city relies on little dick.
Little dick energy.
jim breuer
Start building these things everywhere.
I need statues of little dicks.
joe rogan
Legit little dick energy.
And after a while, somewhere along the line, I forget what the explanation was.
They started covering them up with leaves.
They started covering their dicks up with leaves.
unidentified
Right!
joe rogan
So they'd be this beautiful body, this like perfect man with this little leaf over...
Little leaf.
That guy had a hog on him.
Look at the size of that guy.
jim breuer
Little leaf dick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
I saw that.
It's weird.
joe rogan
Very rare that a guy built like a Greek god has a little tiny dick.
I just don't think those things go together.
jim breuer
Like are they messing with it?
joe rogan
Look at the size of his hands and his shoulders.
jim breuer
Right, but a little dick.
joe rogan
Monster hog.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
No.
Little tiny ass dick.
unidentified
You need a...
Everyone's like, yes, little dicks are the way to go.
Like...
joe rogan
Whatever little dick energy dude who was running Rome at the time was like...
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Two inches?
Are you insane?
unidentified
Nobody needs two inches.
joe rogan
It's like you don't need an AR-15.
That's like the same people today.
What do you need an AR-15 to protect yourself?
That's a military assault rifle.
unidentified
Two inches!
One inch is plenty to pleasure every woman that's ever existed.
joe rogan
One inch is fine.
They give him these little one-inch penises.
Giant goliath of a man.
Full six-pack.
Looks like a fucking, literally looks like a superhero.
jim breuer
Put that leaf over it.
unidentified
Cover his penis with a leaf.
joe rogan
It's just so weird.
And there's so much art, dude.
There's so much art.
You're blown away.
I mean, you know there's so much art when you get there.
But then when you're wandering around, you're like, what in the fuck, man?
This is nuts.
jim breuer
The arena.
joe rogan
Oh, the Coliseum.
jim breuer
Right?
The Coliseum?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Coliseum is incredible.
That's incredible.
All of it's incredible.
I mean, if you could go back and see what that was like when the Emperor of Rome was presiding over the Colosseum and they got people gladiator fights and they're letting tigers loose and shit.
Like, what the fuck, man?
They had the animals in cages underneath the floor and they would raise the cage up and let the animal out.
jim breuer
What's the movie?
Gladiator.
joe rogan
Russell Crowe.
jim breuer
The shit.
Monster movie.
unidentified
The shit.
jim breuer
That was a monster movie.
joe rogan
That movie was so good.
jim breuer
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I cried like a baby at the end of the movie.
jim breuer
Oh my god.
I open mouth cried.
joe rogan
Everybody wanted to be Russell Crowe.
Are you not entertained?
Remember that?
jim breuer
So good.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And then Joaquin Phoenix perfectly plays.
jim breuer
He was great.
joe rogan
Perfectly plays the creepy dictator.
unidentified
He was such a dick.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he was so good.
So good and so beautiful at the time.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Imagine if that's the guy who becomes the Joker.
Look how beautiful he was.
jim breuer
Dude, he's a great actor.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he's incredible.
jim breuer
That guy's an unbelievable actor.
joe rogan
He freaked me out in the Joker because I was like, this could happen.
I think he's partially responsible for the Antifa riots.
I think people saw that and they're like, that looks like fun.
We need a real Joker.
You know how many guys are out there, like, aspiring to be the real Joker?
jim breuer
The real Joker.
joe rogan
They're gonna do Joker Part 2, which is great.
Good job, Todd Phillips.
Gonna send this further into Demise.
It's the ultimate anti-hero.
jim breuer
They are filming it next year, right?
With Lady Gaga or something like that.
joe rogan
It's happening right now.
jim breuer
Oh, God.
jamie vernon
It's beautiful, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
jim breuer
I can't.
I already don't want to see it.
joe rogan
It's going to be so intense.
It's going to be good.
It's going to be amazing.
But isn't it funny that Todd Phillips had to stop making comedies because the world got too woke?
Like the kind of comedies that he made before, if you tried to make them today, you'd get in real trouble.
jim breuer
Todd Phillips was so...
What was that first one?
Was Hangover his first?
What was his first one?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jim breuer
That was him, Hangover, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's him.
Let's go to his IMDb.
Check my IMDB. Check my IMDB. What have you ever done?
What have you ever done, Jim?
Why don't you just check my IMDB? I was half-baked, you fucking piece of shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah, his first move was Road Trip and then Old School.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
unidentified
So he did some classics.
joe rogan
Road Trip and Old School.
jim breuer
Old School, right out of the gate.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jim breuer
Right out of the gate.
joe rogan
Right out of the gate.
jim breuer
There's a drive!
And the left fielder doesn't even move!
joe rogan
But I think he did an interview where he was talking about the difficulties of doing those kind of comedies today.
jim breuer
I guess so.
I mean, what was so offensive in...
joe rogan
Everything.
Try watching them again.
Try watching Step Brothers.
You watch Step Brothers, you're like, Jesus, like the language.
There's so many of those things you cannot say today.
jamie vernon
Is the hangover offensive?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
That's what I'm saying.
Perfectly.
jamie vernon
It's raunchy, but it's not.
jim breuer
That's what I say.
jamie vernon
I say raunchy, but I don't think there's anything.
There's nothing cancelable.
joe rogan
Well, doesn't Dr. Ken pull his dick out?
jamie vernon
Whatever that was.
joe rogan
Remember, he's got a micro penis?
Do you think that was really his dick?
If it is, that's so rude.
I'd be like, listen, we don't even have to do any special effects.
jim breuer
No showing my dick.
joe rogan
Maybe it really is his dick.
jim breuer
It could be.
joe rogan
Could be.
jim breuer
Could be.
I mean, if you're going for the laugh and you think...
joe rogan
If he was the king of the world, everybody would have a little dick on a statue.
jim breuer
That's right.
So he may be on to something.
jamie vernon
Maybe having the baby is a big problem, you know?
joe rogan
That's a little bit of an issue.
That's normal, though.
jim breuer
That movie...
joe rogan
Great fucking movie.
jim breuer
When I saw that in the theaters, that's another one where it's hard to get me to belly laugh.
unidentified
I was bad.
joe rogan
How about something about Mary?
Remember that?
jim breuer
That was hilarious.
joe rogan
Farrelly Brothers?
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
The jizz in the hair?
jim breuer
And wasn't there the guy, what's his name?
Oh my god.
And he kept having a pimple in a different spot.
joe rogan
Chris Elliott.
jim breuer
Yes, Chris Elliott had like a weird, and how funny was Damon.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
No, not Dylan.
Dylan.
Matt Dillon?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
He's the cop?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
jim breuer
He was funny in that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I miss those kind of movies, you know?
jim breuer
I do too.
So funny.
joe rogan
Kingpin?
jim breuer
Kingpin was hilarious.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jim breuer
Hilarious.
joe rogan
I miss those kind of movies.
They don't really make that many of those...
It used to be there was a lot of banger comedies that would come out every year.
jim breuer
I would say Anchorman's the closest thing to that silly ensemble, and you're invested...
No matter how silly the character is, you're invested in them.
joe rogan
Sandler still does them.
He sells great silly movies.
jim breuer
He's the king of silly movies.
joe rogan
He's the king.
It's always funny to me when critics review his movie poorly.
I'm like, this is a perfect Adam Sandler movie, you idiot.
You know, I mean, if you don't like Happy Gilmore, you can go fuck yourself.
You don't like that movie?
Do you know what you're signing up for?
Like, it's not like...
You go to a fucking JoJo Siwa concert and you're looking to see Pink Floyd.
You went to the wrong place.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
It's an Adam Sandler movie and they're awesome.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You just got to be in the mood for like the Zohan.
unidentified
Right.
jim breuer
I'm not here for Raging Bull.
joe rogan
It's a great movie.
The Zohan's a great fucking movie.
I love that movie.
jim breuer
And just like you said, you come in and you've got that mindset like, you know what, I'm just gonna, whatever goes, it's gonna go and I can't wait for this.
Movies are hilarious.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
Hilarious.
Zohan is a hilarious movie.
That's such a good movie.
During the pandemic, my family and I, well, you know, my kids were 10 and 12 at the time.
And, like, that's the perfect kind of movie to watch.
Because they're pretty non-offensive.
You can watch any Adam Sandler movie with your kids.
And I'll enjoy them, too.
It was perfect.
So we watched every Adam Sandler movie.
We, like, we fucking, we binged them.
jim breuer
He was good in, you know who he was good in, too?
Which...
He could do serious stuff, too.
joe rogan
Uncut Gems.
jim breuer
What was the Spanish Fly?
joe rogan
What's that?
jim breuer
Where he was like, he had a wife and a kid.
He played like a father.
jamie vernon
Spanglish.
jim breuer
Was it Banglish?
joe rogan
Spanglish?
jim breuer
Spanglish.
joe rogan
What is Spanglish?
I'm not aware of that one.
jim breuer
I feel like he was more serious and he was really good in it.
joe rogan
Well, he was amazing in Uncut Gems.
It's 2004. Oh, wow.
I didn't know about that one.
jim breuer
No, he was really good in that.
joe rogan
Bro, he's amazing.
Have you seen Uncut Gems?
jim breuer
Let me see the...
joe rogan
Uncut Gems.
jim breuer
Yeah, Spanglish.
joe rogan
How do you say it, Jim?
jim breuer
I really like Spanglish.
unidentified
Uncut Gems.
jamie vernon
It's about gambling.
Uncut Gems.
jim breuer
Let me see.
joe rogan
Uncut Gems.
jim breuer
Oh, I didn't see this one!
joe rogan
Bro, Uncut Gems is fucking amazing.
Just watch the trailer, because the trailer would give you anxiety.
jim breuer
Oh, I wanted to see this one!
joe rogan
It's incredible.
jim breuer
I wanted to see this one.
joe rogan
It is incredible.
It's an incredible movie, and he's so goddamn good in it.
He plays a gambling addict so well, it freaks you the fuck out while you're watching.
You go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't fucking do this.
jim breuer
Mike Francesca?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, a lot of good actors are in it.
It's a great movie.
jim breuer
All right.
That's the movie of the week then.
joe rogan
Oh, you have to watch it.
jim breuer
That's the movie of the week.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People told me about it and I put it off.
And then when I finally watched it, I was like, holy shit.
jim breuer
I get home Sunday night that we're watching that movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
My wife didn't even enjoy it.
It gave her anxiety.
jim breuer
Really?
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
jim breuer
Then that means it's really good.
joe rogan
It's so good, dude.
It's so good.
And Adam Sandler plays a gambling...
You ever been around gambling junkies?
jim breuer
Uh, yeah.
joe rogan
He plays it perfect.
He's just like, this next one, I got this fucking next one, I'm gonna shove it up everybody's fucking ass.
It's amazing.
It's so good.
That's those guys, man.
Those guys that get addicted to sports gambling?
jim breuer
Yep.
unidentified
Holy fuck, those guys are just degenerates.
joe rogan
It is just a rollercoaster ride of emotions and they can't stop.
jim breuer
They can't stop.
joe rogan
They're so addicted to that rush.
jim breuer
I know a guy who lost a lot of money.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Like a quarter million dollars.
I'm sure this guy said, but for a guy of his status to lose that.
I remember there was a guy even, I went to, I think I was filming a pilot or something.
And I was like, oh, you got to come out for this pilot.
And I flew him out, blah, blah, blah.
And he was gone until like five in the morning, came back.
He's like, I was at the casino.
I said, there's a casino in L.A.? Somewhere out there, and he found it, and it was probably like an hour away.
He found it.
We show up at 5 in the morning.
When those guys are in...
You're in LA. You're going to California.
You're going to Hollywood.
So many things you can do.
You're looking for stars.
You're going to go see the mountains.
You're going to take a ride on the hills, moho and anything.
All he wanted to do was find a casino.
joe rogan
Jesus.
jim breuer
Yeah, it's pretty, it's sad.
He beat it.
I think he beat it.
joe rogan
It's hard to beat because that rush, the thing that they get out of it is like regular life seems very boring if you don't have like a big bet on the line.
Like every day there's a bet and every day you're trying to get even or you're trying to get better and you're trying to get that money back and people are trying to get you because you have loans out and so you have to run away.
So it's this wild adventure.
jim breuer
That's when it gets intense.
joe rogan
And in New York, they have off-track betting, right?
So there's betting everywhere.
In New York, you can go bet on the horse races, you can bet on dog races.
jim breuer
We had a relationship, and it was...
unidentified
Can you bet on dog races still?
jim breuer
That used to be in Florida.
I've never seen that in Florida.
joe rogan
Do they still do that?
Because I know a lot of animal cruelty people wanted to stop that.
They do them here in Texas?
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
jim breuer
Yeah, I don't know.
jamie vernon
Let me retract.
Let me retract.
It says dog racing is illegal in seven states.
All dog tracks have been closed and ceased live racing, but a prohibitory statute has been enacted.
Those states include Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Kansas, Iowa, Texas, and Wisconsin.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
So those are the places where you can still?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But do they do it?
jamie vernon
This video is from last year.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is last year?
They put a wire mesh over the dog's face too and make them run.
Look at these motherfuckers.
jim breuer
Look at how fast they run.
joe rogan
Bro.
jim breuer
Look at how fast that thing is.
joe rogan
Look how fast those motherfuckers go.
That is so insane.
jim breuer
Oh my god, look at the one on the outside coming in.
joe rogan
Bro, they're so fast.
jim breuer
Oh my.
joe rogan
This guy's getting tired.
The dude in the front is getting tired.
But look at him go.
jim breuer
Wow, he just got a last burst of energy.
joe rogan
He did.
He felt them on his ass.
unidentified
Yep, he did.
jim breuer
He even glanced back and saw them.
joe rogan
They're still going.
jim breuer
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
How long did they run for?
jim breuer
I thought it was over.
joe rogan
How long did they run for?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
So are they chasing a thing?
jamie vernon
That one, no.
Sometimes they chase like a little rabbit.
joe rogan
This time they're just running.
jim breuer
They're just running.
I felt like he glanced at one right before that turn.
Jesus, dude.
unidentified
And they're on me.
joe rogan
Do they have a thing over their mouth while they're running?
No.
jim breuer
No.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's something that creeps people out about dogs running.
Because they're like, that dog could just be your pet.
Like, why are you having them run?
jim breuer
Maybe that's what, like, horses?
joe rogan
They do run with a thing over their face.
Look at that.
jamie vernon
And so I guess different rules, different places.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's probably so they don't bite each other.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
They probably get mad that one dude won the race and tried to sucker punch him.
jim breuer
Bite his ear, bite his inner thigh.
joe rogan
That kind of shit happens, man.
Gotta be careful.
Competitive dogs.
jim breuer
Gives him a little crotch bite right before the thing takes off and all that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Alligator racing wouldn't bother me at all.
Race those fucking assholes.
jim breuer
I'd like to see that go down.
A little alligator racing.
joe rogan
How'd you get them to run?
jim breuer
Put a little muscle around them.
joe rogan
You have to starve them.
jim breuer
Put chicken.
Yeah, you have to starve them.
Like a stick with a chicken or something like that.
joe rogan
And run with a horse dragging a chicken behind it.
jim breuer
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What if the horse trips?
Horse breaks its leg, you're pinned under the horse, and the alligators start running on you.
Nobody's going to feel bad for you.
jim breuer
No, but if anything, you're going to be a huge social media star the next day.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you're dead.
jim breuer
I mean, that could be around to enjoy it, but your family's going to be like, hey, isn't that?
joe rogan
You get starving crocodiles running after the chicken.
You know how scary that would be if you starved them so that you could do this?
Because you have to starve them for a long time.
Because alligators and crocodiles, I think they can go a year without eating.
Yeah.
jim breuer
Wow, that's a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're particularly robust animals.
That's why they survived everything.
They survived everything that Mother Nature threw at them.
They're here and the dinosaurs aren't.
jim breuer
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're very robust.
Those motherfuckers, they're durable.
jim breuer
Yeah, they could just bury themselves.
Just go on the ground.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
Just gonna chill out for the next hundred days.
joe rogan
They have gator holes in the ground.
They have like the little dens they dig in the ground.
Steve Vernella just sent me this video of this gator running out of this little area he's in and running into like a gator hole.
jim breuer
Gator hole.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got like a gator den that he just has fucking dug into the side.
jim breuer
That scares me.
joe rogan
It should scare you.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're creepy, man.
It's a creepy animal.
And they live amongst us.
And in Florida, they really live amongst us.
jim breuer
They're everywhere.
joe rogan
I can't find it.
jim breuer
When they get too big in our development, I don't know how they get them, but they take them in the middle of the night or something.
joe rogan
They kill them?
jim breuer
If it gets over five feet.
No, they relocate them.
joe rogan
Relocate them.
How about fucking Disney World, where that poor kid got eaten?
jim breuer
My kids were playing there.
unidentified
Jesus!
joe rogan
Right there.
jim breuer
Right there.
I know exactly where it happened.
It's a beach.
It was a beach area.
And I remember walking in the water with my kids.
Now, granted...
They were only maybe up to their calves, and they were small, but I was right next to them.
But still, I see how it went down.
joe rogan
Well, the guy, when we were at Disney World, they have like a whole fishing adventure thing you do at Disney World.
jim breuer
Yes.
joe rogan
They take you out on the lake.
The guy was saying that they have to remove alligators all the time.
They just find their way into Disney World.
jim breuer
Yeah, they find water!
They find water.
You can't keep a gator from finding ponds and lakes and all that jazz.
joe rogan
It's just so interesting that you just get accustomed to being around monsters.
Like even in a North American city, in the United States of America, you get accustomed to being around monsters if you live in Florida.
jim breuer
It's a little monster rattling its tail in front of me.
Right outside our house.
Right as I come out of my house, right as the driveway, sitting across the street.
joe rogan
How big was it?
jim breuer
Probably about five and a half, six feet.
joe rogan
Jesus.
jim breuer
Yeah!
unidentified
Jesus.
jim breuer
Nice!
Thick!
And then I think they removed him like two days later.
jamie vernon
That's an interesting fight I've never seen.
jim breuer
Oh, I saw this!
Yeah, a horse kicks that gator.
Let's him know who's boss.
What, you want some of this?
joe rogan
I wonder if that's a wild horse.
jim breuer
I don't know, but the horse, like, listen, stomped on him.
And that's a big gator.
joe rogan
Jesus.
unidentified
Boom!
Boom!
joe rogan
Still, I don't like the horse's chances there.
jamie vernon
Great meal for that gator if he fucking wins.
jim breuer
That's a big win for the gator.
joe rogan
If that horse fucks up and gets one of his legs clamped down on...
Horses are so fucking strong though.
jim breuer
They are.
They really are.
I love seeing them in the wild.
Are there any places...
I know in North Carolina there's wild horses.
joe rogan
There's a lot of wild horses in this country.
It's actually an issue.
jim breuer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's an issue in some places where they're trying to figure out what to do and they've opposed killing wild horses.
jim breuer
What?
joe rogan
So they're trying to figure out...
Some people are opposed to it.
Some people do kill them.
Wild horses will compete with domestic cattle and a lot of other animals for resources.
Reining in the wild horse crisis.
Here it goes.
jamie vernon
82,000 horses and burrows.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It certainly stands at 26,000 animals.
Look at this.
Bureau of Land Management, the federal agency charges managing the animals, sets an appropriate population level for wild horses based on the amount of rangeland available.
A figure that currently stands at 26,785 animals.
Today, there is an estimated 82,000 wild horses and burrows on public rangelands, more than three times the designated level.
Even more challenging due to the high fertility of the wild equines, the population is on pace to double every four years.
Wow.
Wild horses.
Do you know that wild horses actually originated in North America?
And then they died off in that mass depopulation of megafauna.
And then they were reintroduced to North America by Europeans.
Like all the horses in Africa, like all wild horses.
So horses originated right here.
Isn't that wild?
jim breuer
Well, the natives used the horses too.
joe rogan
They didn't use the horses until the Europeans gave it to them.
jim breuer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jim breuer
They didn't have horses?
joe rogan
Nope.
jim breuer
I never knew that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Pretty wild.
The Comanche learned horse rearing.
That's the reason why the Comanche were able to take over most of the Great Plains.
jim breuer
Not even in South America, they didn't have horses?
Donkeys?
joe rogan
When Cortez invaded the Aztecs, one of the things they were freaked out about that he was on a horse, they thought they were like gods.
They were riding horses.
jim breuer
Yeah, that would freak me out.
That would freak me out.
joe rogan
What's crazy is they started here.
Horses started here.
They were wiped out and then reintroduced by the Europeans.
And now you've got a giant population of wild ones.
jim breuer
Huh.
joe rogan
Pretty interesting, but goddamn.
Imagine just being in the wild and seeing a group of wild horses running by.
unidentified
That'd be amazing.
jim breuer
It would be pretty awesome.
There's a presence, too.
I was on the Outer Banks, and if you go to the area where there's no roads or whatever, and you'll just see a herd of horses just kind of hanging out around your house.
It brings this...
Bizarre peace inside.
You can't explain it.
joe rogan
They're a fucking cool animal.
jim breuer
It's majestic looking.
And you feel something.
I can't explain it.
joe rogan
Pause.
There's something that I like about these horses just out there living wild.
jim breuer
Yes!
joe rogan
And probably very happy.
That's...
jim breuer
That's the only way to be happy.
joe rogan
The way they want to live.
jim breuer
Of course.
joe rogan
We are just so accustomed to all horses being just locked up.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
Weird, right?
jim breuer
It is weird.
joe rogan
We think of wild horses as a problem.
jim breuer
Right, that's a problem.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jim breuer
But wrangling them in...
joe rogan
This is a problem.
They're wild.
jim breuer
They're a problem.
joe rogan
Why are they out there wild?
We could be riding them.
This is bullshit.
jim breuer
They're free, roaming where they want.
This is such an issue.
joe rogan
And you can't control them like you control deer, right?
So if there's like wild deer and the population gets too high, you just issue tags.
And then the hunters go and they, you know, manage the wildlife population that way.
You can't do that with horses.
Because people don't, like, you don't want to shoot a fucking horse.
That's creepy.
jim breuer
That's a tough, that's a tough.
I don't want that gig if you had to do it.
joe rogan
Imagine you're the guy who has to go out and kill the wild horses.
You'd feel like such a piece of shit.
jim breuer
Yeah.
Especially if someone saw you too by accident or something.
What's I'm doing?
They told me to do it.
joe rogan
You got a sniper rifle just taking out these majestic stallions of mares.
jim breuer
When that video comes out.
joe rogan
Just enjoying themselves on these beautiful plains, just eating grass.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Not fucking with anybody.
jim breuer
Riding around, jumping.
joe rogan
And you got them at a distance.
Pow!
Boom!
jim breuer
Right.
And the baby horse looking at the mom like, oh my god, what just happened?
joe rogan
So if you have 82,000 and it doubles every four years and you've got to get it down to 26,000, dude, that's a lot of slaughter.
jim breuer
They're going to poison them or something.
They'll do something gnarly.
joe rogan
I wonder what they're going to do because that has giant consequences because then things that eat them get poisoned.
There was a problem with that in LA because they were poisoning rats and then you're seeing like a decrease in the owl population.
Owls would swoop down and get these diseased rats, these poisoned rats, and then they would get sick.
Before we moved here, an owl died on our front porch.
And there was something wrong with it, man.
We were wondering if it got poisoned.
It was all fucked up.
It was just, like, trying to, like, move but couldn't.
And we found, like, I guess it had fallen from the sky and just landed in front of our house.
jim breuer
It was a barn owl?
joe rogan
Like, a real fucking owl.
Like, real, like...
One of them cat-killing owls.
jim breuer
The ones that turn around and look at you.
joe rogan
It wasn't necessarily a big one.
It was just a regular-sized one.
It was weird, man, to see this thing poisoned, I think.
My guess is that it either ate something.
People do that all the time.
They leave out rat poison.
That's how people take care of rats around their house.
jim breuer
Yeah, you don't realize, you're right, everything else is being poisoned.
Something eats it, it's going to be poisoned, maybe it comes in contact with something else.
joe rogan
That's the beautiful thing about the ecosystem of California, is that those little coyotes, they keep the rat population down.
People that are sad because the coyotes kill their cats and kill their dogs, yeah, it is sad, but also...
The reason why you're not infested with rats is because you've got little tiny wolves that are running through the hills every day, just eating everything that slips up.
jim breuer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you need that balance, as weird as that seems.
jim breuer
No, that's a well-designed plan at the end of the day.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's something cool about seeing those motherfuckers operating in the city.
There's something cool about...
jim breuer
Yeah, like a coyote?
joe rogan
Yeah, just hanging out in the city.
There's a creepy video of a coyote eating a cat in LA on a front lawn while traffic is driving by and this coyote is just eating this cat.
jim breuer
I might have seen this.
I remember seeing coyotes in downtown Chicago a couple years ago.
joe rogan
They're everywhere.
jim breuer
That blew me away.
joe rogan
They're in every city.
jim breuer
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
Every city in the country.
jim breuer
But that's wild to think about.
joe rogan
It's wild.
Yeah.
jim breuer
And they haven't attacked people?
joe rogan
Yeah, they have.
unidentified
Oh, they have?
joe rogan
Sure.
Well, in Canada, a woman got killed by one.
It's very rare.
It was a 19-year-old woman.
But they attributed that to the lack of prey for the coyotes in that area, and they've taken the attacking moose.
So these coyotes were accustomed to attacking things that were bigger than her.
jim breuer
Right.
joe rogan
Bigger than them.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So here's this coyote in the middle of fucking L.A. just eating this cat.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
It's so creepy, dude.
Look at that.
Oh, my God.
That's creepy.
You little motherfucker.
That's your little sweetheart.
jim breuer
That's your cat.
That's what you look up to.
joe rogan
It's just meat to this coyote.
jim breuer
Yeah, that's all it is.
joe rogan
Just eating it.
jim breuer
Look at it.
unidentified
Raw.
joe rogan
Time-lapsed.
jim breuer
Look at that cat right behind him!
joe rogan
Oh Jesus!
That cat was like...
jim breuer
He's traumatized.
joe rogan
Look at him, he's twitching.
jim breuer
He's watching his buddy just get...
joe rogan
That's where she went.
I was trying to fuck her.
jim breuer
Yeah.
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at him, man.
unidentified
Wow.
jim breuer
I'm just gonna walk over here.
joe rogan
He's sneaking around.
He's sneaking around.
jim breuer
I don't think he sees me.
I'm just gonna get out of here.
joe rogan
He just did that.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
Right behind that fucking coyote.
jim breuer
Look at that, right on the lawn.
joe rogan
Right on the lawn.
All his cars everywhere.
He doesn't give a shit.
He's just eating that cat.
Dude, they're just a round people.
jim breuer
That's nature right there.
joe rogan
If you're really interested in coyotes, there's a great book called Coyote America by this guy Dan Flores.
He's been on the podcast before.
I forget where he's a professor at, but he has a detailed history of the coyote and how they were worshipped by certain Native Americans and how they...
Made their way into every city in the country over the last, like, hundred years.
Like, they were confined to the West, but they got chased out.
And as they got chased out of places, they just reestablished themselves in new places until they're everywhere.
jim breuer
Survival.
Nature always figures it out away.
Dude, I gotta pee again.
joe rogan
You gotta pee again?
Let's wrap this bitch up.
jim breuer
Okay.
joe rogan
We did enough.
jim breuer
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
It's 5 o'clock.
Got a show in two hours.
jim breuer
It's 5 o'clock?
It's 5 o'clock.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
jim breuer
What time did we get in here?
unidentified
I don't know.
Huh.
joe rogan
Fun times, Jim Brewer.
We're going to have some more fun times tonight.
I'm excited.
jim breuer
I am too, man.
joe rogan
Alright, brother.
I love you to death.
jim breuer
I love you too, brother.
I love you.
joe rogan
It's great to be around you again.
jim breuer
You as well.
joe rogan
It's been a while.
Last night was fun.
jim breuer
It was fun.
joe rogan
It was a good time.
jim breuer
I'm going to have more fun tonight.
joe rogan
Alright, more fun tonight.
Export Selection