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Jan. 12, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1924 - Andrew Santino
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andrew santino
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andrew santino
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
andrew santino
Hello, Andrew Sandino.
Hello, Mr. Joseph Rogan.
How are you, sir?
unidentified
Good, brother.
joe rogan
What's crack-a-lackin'?
andrew santino
Nothing, man.
Had so much fun last night.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Had a fun show.
joe rogan
Welcome to God's country.
andrew santino
It was wonderful.
Me, you, Brian Simpson, Tony.
joe rogan
Fun times.
andrew santino
So fun, dude.
Cheers, brother.
joe rogan
Cheers, my friend.
andrew santino
Cheers to you.
joe rogan
Hans Kim.
andrew santino
Yeah, Hans Kim.
That's the first time I've seen him live.
joe rogan
He's a funny motherfucker.
andrew santino
Dude, I thought when he walked in there...
joe rogan
What is that?
andrew santino
A little bit of Balcones...
When he walked in the room, he took off his helmet, and he had a jacket on, and I was like, this dude bought a bike, huh?
I was like, what kind of bike do you have?
He's like, it's a scooter.
I was like, oh.
joe rogan
He goes, it's very fuel efficient.
That's how he thinks.
andrew santino
Dude, he's got the get-up, though.
He has the helmet, the jacket, matched his shoes.
I was like, for sure.
joe rogan
We need to get him a motorcycle.
andrew santino
He's got to get a bike.
Well, there was a bike out back, and I was like, oh, is that Han's bike?
That's a nice bike.
unidentified
You know what?
joe rogan
He should have a Harley.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Han should have a Harley.
No, no, those are stupid.
You can't steer!
Why would you drive around in a bike that's very important to get the fuck out of way of stuff and your arms are up like this?
You do not have good leverage.
andrew santino
Although if you're lanky, it looks cool.
Like lanky dudes, it's kind of like a vibe for them.
You know what I mean?
It's like a style choice.
joe rogan
I have a real problem with those handlebars.
I love those bikes.
andrew santino
You're not the tallest guy.
joe rogan
That's tough.
But even if I was, even if you made it to my body, Yeah, like here.
Yeah, it's still stupid.
andrew santino
It still looks dumb.
joe rogan
Like this.
This you could steer.
Right there.
Like the race car, the racing bike guys, why do they have their handlebars down there?
Why?
Because that's the best way to steer.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's efficient.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Come on, son.
That's fucking preposterous.
andrew santino
Yeah, but dude, the style is...
Like, there's something about it that makes me go, that's fucking wild.
joe rogan
There's something about...
Well, that's not terrible.
andrew santino
No.
joe rogan
Like, what that guy's got in that fucking...
The front of that thing is sick.
That is sick.
jamie vernon
Hans on that?
That'd be sweet.
joe rogan
Oh, Hans on one with a skull.
And look at the back end of it.
Look at all that metal and shit.
andrew santino
Look, I like Hans.
He's putting that thing down in three hours.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Hans can handle things.
Hans is a black belt in Taekwondo.
andrew santino
Is he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What was that skull one?
jamie vernon
I was a kid, I think.
Well...
joe rogan
Show me that skull.
That is wild.
They do some wild shit with bikes.
I went for a period of time where I took motorcycle classes and I was ready to ride a bike, but then a dude that I worked with on Fear Factor crashed and fucked up his shoulder.
And then Frank Mir, who worked for the UFC, he got hit by a car and broke his leg and took him out of action.
He was really never the same again.
He was one of the best in the world for a long time, even after that.
That was like in the prime of his life.
He got his femur shattered to the point where they...
I mean, when you get your femur shattered, it's touch and go whether or not you lose your leg.
And he wasn't the same guy after that fighting.
It took a long time before he really got his groove back.
andrew santino
Did you have a bike?
Did you ever own a bike?
joe rogan
No, no.
So then that happened, and then a friend of mine saw somebody get hit on a bike, all within like two weeks while I was taking classes.
And I was like, fuck this.
And a bunch of the guys that I worked with on Fear Factor, we all went to the classes together.
And then, you know, a couple guys that worked in production, and one of the guys was a stunt guy, and we all were like, hey, let's get bikes.
And then one of them kept it.
One takes his fucking bike everywhere now, and I always envy him.
I'm like, that rebel, that wild motherfucker, he just rides his bike.
He's like, it's the best.
He goes, I'm never in traffic.
He goes, I ride my bike everywhere.
He's a single guy.
He just gets around.
andrew santino
I've thought about it, man, over the years, but I'm sketched out about other people.
One of my closest childhood friends, him and his wife, both rode professionally like he would do motocross and all that shit and trick shows internationally.
That's where he met his wife overseas.
And they both gave it up because she...
I don't know if she was with him or saw it happen, one of her good friends die on a bike, and she was like, that's it.
Never, never again.
And both of them.
And dude, he was, the whole time I knew this kid when we were teenagers, he was a fucking nutbag.
I mean, he loved bikes.
Anything with two wheels that he could fly, he loved it.
And then as soon as that happened, it was like, never again.
Ever.
Fast cars, though.
joe rogan
Fast cars, you have a little more protection.
unidentified
Well, a lot.
joe rogan
A lot more protection.
Yeah, you can get in an accident and not get hurt at all.
I was telling you, somebody rear-ended my Porsche back in L.A. and didn't get hurt.
That was a fascinating time because I was doing a lot of yoga.
I was doing yoga like three times a week.
And I did it that day.
And when the guy hit my car, I was like, well, what are you going to do?
andrew santino
Calm.
joe rogan
It was wild.
I was like, this is fascinating.
I'm not mad at this dude.
The guy didn't have a license.
He was illegal.
And I go, what are you doing, man?
And he goes, I gotta work.
I'm like, it's a good answer.
It's a fucking solid answer.
The guy has to work.
And I'm putting myself in his shoes.
I'm like, the fuck would I do if I snuck over here?
andrew santino
Yeah.
Fuck it.
joe rogan
I'd fucking drive too, man.
Unfortunately, he was on his phone and they had stopped the lanes to move everybody into one lane and he didn't see it in time.
And he slammed on his brakes and just fucking plowed into me.
andrew santino
I got hit in my neighborhood.
The woman...
This is my first car accident.
I've been like, fender bender stuff, you know what I mean?
But this was like, actually we got hit on our side.
And I... Time slowed down a little bit.
Like it was creepy as shit because I hit the brakes.
I had enough time to brake horn turn.
I did it almost like simultaneously.
And I started to slide away from her because I could see she wasn't looking.
She came flying out of a driveway.
Her head was the other way.
And as soon as she turned...
I swear to God, like, out of a fucking movie, like, I zoomed in on her eyes.
Like, I saw her fucking eyes.
And then smoked us right in the side.
Everybody was fine, but that was, like, the first time I got into, like, a real car accident.
Legitimate.
Because I've been, you know, nicked, bumped, whatever.
But nothing like that.
That was...
joe rogan
I had my Land Cruiser built with rock sliders and metal bumpers just in case it got hit.
Because when you have a Land Cruiser and it's elevated, so it's elevated.
It's got like a four-inch lift and serious off-road.
It's an apocalypse car.
It's got a giant gas tank.
I literally got it because I don't trust LA. I'm like, if shit goes sideways, you've got to be able to drive over these hills.
I need something that can get me the fuck out of here.
If you're on a road, and then...
Did you hear about those people that died in California?
This is not...
I don't think you could have done anything in this circumstance, but they were trapped on a road during a wildfire.
And the wildfire...
It was moving so fast, it killed everybody that was on the road.
andrew santino
No.
joe rogan
Burned them alive in their cars.
andrew santino
That's where you get a Land Cruiser.
joe rogan
Yeah, but even then it wouldn't have helped.
It was a bad example.
andrew santino
You're trapped.
joe rogan
It's trapped there, too.
But the point is, if you have a car, you can't go that way or that way.
You're not going over hills.
But if you have a legitimate four-wheel drive off-road vehicle, it opens up a lot of terrain to you.
You can move around better.
And this is a dumb thought, but I was like, okay, and also, steel all around it.
So if someone plows into me from the side, they're going right into those giant steel rock sliders.
Everything's metal around you.
So it's really good for side impacts.
andrew santino
How much longer until you get a jetpack?
joe rogan
I'm not getting a jetpack.
andrew santino
Come on, dude.
joe rogan
No, I will not be an early adopter of a jetpack.
andrew santino
If I had the money, I would jetpack the fuck everywhere.
joe rogan
I knew this dude...
Back when I used to do the radio in Denver, and they had this fucking guy who was a jetpack guy, and this guy had been using these experimental jetpacks, and he had no knees.
His knees were destroyed.
andrew santino
Because you have to land with it?
joe rogan
Because he had fucking blowing his knees out.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
But this guy kept doing it.
So, like, before the launch, this guy has to strap his knees in.
So he has, like, these crazy braces and strapping his knees down and velcroing this.
I'll go, what are you doing?
And he goes, dude, I've blown both my knees out.
They're both useless.
But he's still flying around in this fucking jetpack.
andrew santino
I would do it.
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Back then, it could only go up in the air for 30 seconds.
andrew santino
Yeah, but now they last a long time.
How long do they last?
I saw the dude doing it over the...
You have to look it up how long it...
I saw a guy doing it over a body of water.
Legitimately, it looked like two minutes.
He was just chilling above the water.
joe rogan
They have some with wings now.
Have you seen the ones with wings?
andrew santino
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
See, dude, this is what I want.
joe rogan
They caught some dude flying around near the airport with it.
There was reports of him.
andrew santino
In restricted airspace?
unidentified
Yeah, it was like flying near where jets go.
joe rogan
This fucking crazy asshole.
andrew santino
Psycho.
I want to be near jets.
joe rogan
Imagine doing ecstasy and flying around in a jetpack.
LAX jetpack mystery.
Pirates report seeing man with jetpack flying near planes above LA. That's so wild.
andrew santino
See, that's awesome.
joe rogan
Remember, I used to have a joke about it.
Where the fuck are the jetpacks?
This was in, like, 2005. Well, we're here.
I thought we'd have jetpacks and robot fuck dolls.
That's what I thought we'd have by now.
andrew santino
Well, you were two for two, man.
jamie vernon
This car?
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Air car?
joe rogan
What is this?
jamie vernon
It should have said CES. Oh, my God.
It says it's really, it works, and I don't know how we're going to use it, but it's a four-seater air car.
It's like a drone.
andrew santino
Does it not have a video of a test run or some shit?
jamie vernon
I believe it does, yeah.
joe rogan
It says pre-order.
I ain't pre-ordering shit, bro.
I need to hear some reports.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude, test it out, man.
Take it for a couple trial runs.
jamie vernon
It's like an Uber version of it.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
So you can just get it?
andrew santino
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
Remember that rental car company?
Does that company still around where you had an app and you could just rent a car and they would drive it right to you?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think though.
I think so.
joe rogan
They're still around?
andrew santino
That's cool how it transforms.
unidentified
Look at this fucking thing.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's a drone.
It's like a drone car.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And drones today, have you seen those competitions where they have like drone competitions?
andrew santino
It's unreal.
joe rogan
Where they have cones and poles and holes you have to fly through and they...
Those things are incredible now.
andrew santino
Get stoned and watch the ones where they go through the buildings.
Dude, it's like you're on a ride.
It'll go through building windows, sideways, flip upside down, go through different hallways.
This shit is insane.
joe rogan
That would be so dope in VR. That's what I mean.
andrew santino
He'll flip upside down, go through another little tiny holes.
jamie vernon
That's how they're controlling it.
They have a headset on a VR headset, and they're watching it in first person.
joe rogan
Oh my god, the control this guy has is incredible.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's unreal.
joe rogan
These things are amazingly agile.
See if you can find those competitions, Jamie.
Because I was watching them on Instagram the other day, where these guys were flying through doorways, and they had made a doorway, and it's like they have an obstacle course.
Oh, this one's all lit up with neon.
andrew santino
That's so cool.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is amazing.
jamie vernon
I don't know how hard it would be to memorize the course to know where the turns are, because...
joe rogan
Well, you remember when we used to play Quake?
Dudes would memorize maps.
andrew santino
Yeah, I guess.
Same thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, guys would...
andrew santino
Well, this looks like he's following that light.
Do you see that light in front of him?
There's probably one in front, yeah.
That's like a trail in front of him, so maybe that's...
jamie vernon
I know they also have this.
I also saw someone doing a fishing sim, where he had a real-life fishing pole hooked up to a device that was tracking like a tuna he was pulling.
But they have these also where you can just practice this with a real handset, and you're flying it like it would be, but it's all fake, it's all on a computer.
andrew santino
The first question, I'd be like, so when I crash this, what does it cost?
Because I'm crashing that fucking thing immediately.
That's so hard.
joe rogan
To get to this guy's level, you have to fuck around with regular drones for a long time.
andrew santino
What do they cost?
I literally don't know.
jamie vernon
A couple thousand.
There's another thing I just saw.
It looked like a very goofy video online.
I'll try to find it real quick.
It's like these, but they're attached to a cord, like a kite, and it's a league where they're racing somewhere.
They do dogfights.
joe rogan
You know, it's literally like everything else.
We were just practicing driving golf balls out there earlier.
I can't even hit it.
I'm missing.
I'm whacking the ground.
I don't know how to do it.
You guys are giving me pointers and shit, but I've never done it.
I've went to Topgolf a couple times and just whacked the ball.
I don't know what I'm doing.
But when I'm watching you guys, it's fascinating.
I'm like, how are you doing it?
Because you hit it so fucking hard.
andrew santino
I was trying to show off for Jamie a little bit.
joe rogan
Dude, you can drive a fucking golf ball.
That shit is impressive as fuck.
Your technique is amazing.
andrew santino
I want you to come with me.
joe rogan
It's so smooth.
andrew santino
I would love for you to see it live.
joe rogan
I want to see it live.
Because Jamie talks a lot of shit.
I want to see you, Jamie, and Hinchcliffe going at it.
andrew santino
Fuck yeah.
No, but I'm saying...
joe rogan
Get baked and drive the car.
andrew santino
Hell yeah.
If you see pros live, though...
I don't know if you've ever seen pros in person, but it's...
The way that you're, even this gap of you being like, I don't ever golf, and then you're like, wow, dude, you're good at that.
When I watch those guys, it's the same feeling when you go to professional sports, and you're like, that's un-fucking-real how good they are.
It's like shocking to watch live.
joe rogan
And if you are really good yourself, and you are really good at golf, then you can really appreciate a pro.
andrew santino
Oh yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Whereas I can kind of appreciate it, but I don't know what's going on.
It's sort of like with the UFC. Right.
When dudes scramble on the ground and someone's like an elite jiu-jitsu black belt, the people that are practicing jiu-jitsu are like, holy shit, look at that guy.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Charles Olivero.
Watch how he cinches this up.
Holy shit!
andrew santino
Right.
joe rogan
You know, when you see golfing, we had this guy, Fedor Gorst, came in.
How old is Fedor?
23?
andrew santino
22?
unidentified
22?
joe rogan
I think so, yeah.
22, 23 years old.
If not the best pool player in the world, top three for sure.
We came in here and we played him on that table.
It was wild.
andrew santino
Did you stand a little bit of a chance?
unidentified
You're good.
joe rogan
I won the first two games.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I ran out the first game and I won the second game.
andrew santino
Take that, Fedor.
joe rogan
I got lucky.
Well, he gave me a shot in the first game.
I think he broke and didn't have a shot on the object ball.
He pushed out and I ran out.
andrew santino
Where's he from?
joe rogan
Something like that.
He missed or ran out?
I forget.
He's from Russia, originally.
And he's got a green card playing pool in the United States.
But, dude, he is incredible.
Like, the level between me and him, who's like, I'm like a B player.
You know, probably like you are in golf.
I'm like a B player.
And then watching him play, like, holy fuck, man.
andrew santino
It's a different world.
joe rogan
It's humiliating.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's so good, and his cue ball position is so perfect.
When he's moving the ball around, it's so effortless and smooth, and that ball just slides right where it's supposed to go, and then it knocks that ball in, the ball slides right where it's supposed to go, and it's all the same speed.
It's just this smooth, effortless stroke.
Oh my god, it's amazing.
andrew santino
But that's what you do.
That's the difference.
That's what I was like.
You know, mediocre at best at pool, but it's because my fluidity is off with that.
I'm not good at it.
Where yours is like that.
That's the same thing with golf.
It's all fluidity.
joe rogan
I could play, if I played every day for a year, I could be a shitty pro.
andrew santino
At pool?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'd go to tournaments and get knocked out.
I'd be in the top 32 of a 50-man tournament.
andrew santino
But you do good enough to keep up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I could never keep up with those guys.
To keep up with guys like Fedor, first of all, you have to be practicing eight hours a day for years.
It's not just that I could pick up and go eight hours a day and be as good as he is.
It's not going to happen.
The gap is so far.
I would have to be fully dedicated to being a professional pool player, because all those guys, They're the top of the top.
They play eight, ten hours a day.
Shane Van Boning, who is one of the best, if not the best in the world, he's right there with Fedor.
I want to have a challenge match with him and Fedor here on that table and just stream it.
When he would practice his break for five, six hours in a row, just rack the balls like a robot, ba-blam!
Rack the balls like a robot, ba-blam!
Crack the balls.
Just over and over.
And he has a hearing aid.
He's deaf.
He was born deaf.
He just shuts his hearing aid off.
So he can't hear anything.
All he does is focus on the task.
andrew santino
That's fucking wild.
joe rogan
And he's a monster.
He's the most evil breaker in the world.
Because he'll play ten ball and he'll break and make six balls in the break.
So you're playing ten ball, but he's playing four ball.
And he's not like a big giant guy either.
It's just a smooth...
It's the way you're driving the golf ball, that smooth, perfect technique.
That's what he has when he drives the cue ball.
It's amazing.
andrew santino
Because you don't need to be...
I've noticed some of those guys...
I mean, I know almost nothing about Poole, but anytime I've seen it, like either you've shown me...
Not all these guys are big boys, but they hit the fucking shit out of it, even if they're smaller guys.
joe rogan
They let the cue stick do the work for them, though.
When they're doing it, they're not muscling it.
It's like an acceleration of the arm.
There's a thing called a slip stroke where you actually let the cue go, and you kind of catch it at the bottom of the cue.
A lot of these old-time, really smooth players, they would play with a slip stroke.
And when you watch a guy with a slipstroke, you're like, oh my god.
Like, you have to be so advanced to be able to play smooth and effortless with a slipstroke.
andrew santino
You let go of it for a fraction of a second?
unidentified
You let go of it.
andrew santino
Fuck that.
joe rogan
You let go of it.
andrew santino
I've done that on accident.
joe rogan
It slips out of your hand, you catch it.
But it's because they're cradling that stick.
They're not gripping it.
Like, if you watch someone who doesn't know how to play, they grab it like a baseball bat.
But if you watch, like, Fedor, or you watch, like, Efren Reyes, like, the best of the best, they cradle it in their hand.
They're barely holding on to it.
And they're letting their arm move and letting the stick do the work.
andrew santino
I'm choking it out every time.
joe rogan
Google Shane Van Boning make six balls on the break.
You watch this dude break, and I know it's just breaking and pull, but it's perfection.
It's like something...
You ever see Jiro Dreams of Sushi?
andrew santino
I love it.
joe rogan
They made that dude work on the eggs for like a year.
That's all he did was try to...
Perfect, making his egg dish.
andrew santino
And the one son did it forever, still didn't promote him.
joe rogan
No!
andrew santino
He's like, not good enough.
He's like, you suck, bro.
joe rogan
You suck at sushi.
andrew santino
Yeah, you suck, man.
joe rogan
Well, it's like that, but this guy's got that with the break shot.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's like, there's a Japanese term for that when you practice this one thing over and over and over again in an attempt to achieve enlightenment.
Watch this, motherfucker.
So this is ten ball.
There's ten balls there.
Watch this.
Watch the perfection of this.
Boom!
See how smooth that shit is?
Look at those balls just scattering, son.
andrew santino
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Exactly!
That's what I'm saying.
It's like perfection.
Like he just knows where to hit it.
He knows what speed to hit it.
He knows what side.
He's hitting not even flat on the one ball.
He's hitting it slightly to the side.
Well, that one he hit it pretty flat, actually.
andrew santino
Is this the cat that was born deaf?
joe rogan
Yep, he's deaf.
Yeah, and when he plays, he shuts his hearing aid off.
He doesn't hear shit.
You can call him whatever the fuck you want.
He's out there running out on you, son.
jamie vernon
So this is the opposite of that in golf, where they're going to play in a couple weeks in Phoenix.
andrew santino
Yeah, that's right.
It's called the Waste Management.
jamie vernon
They build this giant arena around this hole.
It's like 17,000 people, and they're all cheering while you play.
andrew santino
It's a fucking party.
jamie vernon
It's like the opposite of golf.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
jamie vernon
And this guy hit a hole in one.
joe rogan
But how many holes is it?
andrew santino
That's just on a par three.
unidentified
It's a normal tournament.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's incredible.
jamie vernon
That's incredible.
andrew santino
People start throwing beer from the stands.
That's incredible.
See that?
joe rogan
Come on.
That's incredible.
jamie vernon
With all that pressure to do that is pretty fucking wild.
joe rogan
Amazing.
andrew santino
This is what golf should be.
joe rogan
That's a great idea.
Who came up with this idea?
jamie vernon
These guys did in Phoenix.
andrew santino
Waste Management.
Literally, the trash company.
They sponsor this.
joe rogan
That's the best golf ever.
That's real golf.
So Poole has a thing that's not as grand as that, but it's called the Moscone Cup.
And the difference between the Moscone Cup and everything else is the crowd cheers and they go nuts.
And it's USA versus Europe.
So it's teams.
So if you and I were on Team USA, you would hit the four ball and give position for me to play the five ball and then I'd give you the six ball.
And we'd go back and forth like that.
So you and I would be playing against two people from Europe.
And everyone's screaming and cheering.
unidentified
You're up!
joe rogan
You're up!
USA! USA! It gets wild!
But then they all quiet down when the guy's about to shoot.
andrew santino
And then it's loud again.
joe rogan
It's loud again.
unidentified
I see.
andrew santino
I love that.
unidentified
He makes the ball.
andrew santino
Yeah!
joe rogan
See if you can find Moscone Cup highlights.
Find Moscone Cup highlights.
Now everybody kind of knows about it and it's like the one pool tournament where everyone's gonna scream.
There's no quiet in the crowd.
There's no quiet.
Everyone's screaming.
andrew santino
But they all know the rhythm of it.
joe rogan
Watch this.
unidentified
Dude, that's awesome.
joe rogan
So people are screaming and cheering while these guys are playing.
That's pool, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what it should be.
andrew santino
Let's fucking go!
Losing it.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
That was the most awkward chest bump ever.
You know why?
Because they didn't want to bang up their cues.
andrew santino
Right.
joe rogan
They didn't want to...
andrew santino
Put it to the side.
joe rogan
They had their...
See, watch how your chest bumps.
They're both like, don't touch my cue.
Don't fuck my cue up.
See?
The cue, easy, easy, easy with the cue, easy with the cue.
That's Josh Filler.
He's one of the best in the world.
And he's got a wood shaft, so he's got it like, hey.
Some guys have carbon fiber shafts.
They're a little more loosey-goosey, because you can kind of bang those around.
But wood shafts get a little nick in it, and then you feel it when you're playing.
It bothers the shit out of you.
andrew santino
Just a little, tiny...
joe rogan
The tiniest thing, you can't even find it.
You can't even find it by looking at it.
You have to almost be playing, and then when you feel it, you stop.
And you go, where's that little motherfucker?
And then you gotta spit on it.
You get some water, and you put it on the wood, and the wood will swell back up to where it is.
And then you burnish it, you get it all hot, and you put a little bit more water on, the wood swells a little bit more.
andrew santino
I can't help it.
Come on, dude.
You got to spit on it and make it swell.
joe rogan
You got to.
andrew santino
Spit on that wood and make it swell.
joe rogan
Spit on it.
andrew santino
You know what that reminds me of?
They just posted a clip of a dart championship, you know, and when they lose it in the background, and it was like, they call it like a nines, two guys have nines, or something like only nine darts.
So two guys both had nines.
And then the first guy obviously won.
But it was like, I guess this doesn't happen that often that it's only nines.
Do you know what I mean?
And they posted it somewhere.
Oh, right here.
Watch this fucking clip, Joe.
joe rogan
That's insane.
unidentified
180!
andrew santino
I love these announcers.
Look at the rhythm.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
That's so accurate, dude.
That's so crazy.
unidentified
You can tell.
joe rogan
This is insanity.
That's insanity.
Look how casual, too.
andrew santino
Dude, they fucking lose it!
joe rogan
You know what's funny?
I know that dude probably has an English accent, but he totally looks like he's from Kentucky.
andrew santino
Yeah!
joe rogan
That guy looks...
Oh, he fucked up, sorry!
andrew santino
First miss.
joe rogan
That guy looks English, but this dude, this dude looks like he's straight out of Kansas.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at him.
That's a corn-fed Englishman.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's a big beef boy.
joe rogan
Look at him.
That dude could be at a Luke Combs concert.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Double 12!
jamie vernon
So sick.
joe rogan
Suck it!
Suck it!
You gotta have a crowd.
andrew santino
Dude, that's so fun.
joe rogan
You gotta have a crowd!
andrew santino
I wanna go to one of these so bad, one time.
joe rogan
Pool needs a fucking crowd.
jamie vernon
They have a league starting up in about a year that's gonna be indoor golf like this.
Monday nights, like Monday night football event, they're gonna have 15,000 people watching golf.
Like, we just played on a simulator.
andrew santino
Yeah.
jamie vernon
When it's gonna be like Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy, the best golfers in the world doing it.
joe rogan
Wow!
jamie vernon
I wonder, as I was thinking, I was like, can you do a pool that way?
5,000 people.
joe rogan
You could, but you'd have to have...
The reason why the Moscone Cup is so good is because you have this USA versus Europe rivalry.
And it goes back and forth.
I think the Europeans have been winning more lately.
jamie vernon
Can we recruit?
joe rogan
Can we draft?
We have the best people already.
You couldn't get better people.
The people that are already competing...
If you wanted to start your own team...
You could recruit.
But, I mean, like, Team USA already has the best players in the United States.
And Team Europe has the best players in Europe.
jamie vernon
I meant, like, in sometimes the Olympics, an American might end up playing in Italy because they have some traced grandfathers.
andrew santino
Yeah, you can say...
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe we can get some Filipino cats.
Come over here.
andrew santino
We'll sneak in some ties.
joe rogan
There's Filipino guys that you never even heard of that will fucking beat anybody in the world.
It's crazy how good they are.
andrew santino
Yeah, why the Philippines?
There's a lot of dudes out of the Philippines.
joe rogan
It's really popular over there.
Efren Reyes, who's a legend, he's like the Babe Ruth of Poole.
When he goes to the Philippines, that guy gets fucking mobbed.
There's all these matches where him playing, he gambles still.
He's old as fuck.
He can't play as good as he used to, so guys have to actually give him handicaps to give him spots.
Like, if we're playing ten ball, like, say, he would have to make, like, the seven and out.
Ooh.
Or he'd have to make the eight and they'd have to make the ten.
That's a lot of gives right a lot of gives Yeah, but that's just because they so they can gamble I wouldn't say the seven and out but maybe maybe like the eight ball at a ten something like but for Like a guy like me if I was gonna play a pro That's how you'd play them.
They would have to give you some sort of a handicap And that's what they would do like guys Let's say you get the seven in the breaks That means you could break every game and you could win with the seven or the nine.
andrew santino
Oh Yeah, it's a big big spot What he's really saying is, I'm so much better than you.
joe rogan
He's saying, I'm going to lock you up, I'm going to run out on you, I'm going to put you in a coma, I'm going to win all the games.
andrew santino
Do people keep, like in golf, you keep a handicap.
Can you keep a handicap in pool?
joe rogan
No, there's a thing called the Fargo scoring.
Fargo scoring, it calculates how often you miss, bad position play, it calculates scratching on the break, all these different things, and you get like a number.
That's your Fargo score.
Bad safeties, if you have a bad safety and leave the ball out, that counts against your score, I think.
andrew santino
What's your Fargo score?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I was never good.
I was always B-level.
I've won tournaments before, like a local tournament, but that's against other B players.
andrew santino
What would a good Fargo score be?
joe rogan
I think it's in the 900s.
andrew santino
Oh, the more is better.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It's like 100 is the perfect score.
And some of these guys, they'll win matches with like 937. Yeah.
Which is just insanity.
Just insanity.
They're just not missing.
We watched this match with that kid Fedor, where he ran out seven racks in a row to win this set on this guy in this high-pressure tournament.
andrew santino
In a row?
joe rogan
In a row.
Just broke and ran out perfectly seven games in a row, and you're like, what the fuck?
He did that to me out here.
He did it multiple times.
He broke and ran out like four or five racks in a row.
We're just sitting there watching.
This guy breaking right out, breaking right out, breaking right out.
andrew santino
Putting out a fucking clinic.
joe rogan
A clinic.
andrew santino
Yeah, see, that's great.
joe rogan
It's like, I love that with everything, man.
I love when a guy can do that.
I love when people can do that especially in something that I don't even do.
Because this way, I don't have to get obsessed and run home and try to practice.
I can just enjoy it.
Like when I watch Gary Clark Jr. play guitar, I get obsessed watching someone who's so good do something I have zero...
I don't understand what's happening.
I know you're doing this and the fingers move.
I don't know what's happening other than that.
I just love that, that I can just watch it.
andrew santino
I like it if I know I don't have that much interest in it because then I don't get jealous and I don't go, I want to pick one up so fucking bad.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's a problem with golf.
See, I can't get involved with golf because I know I would love it.
andrew santino
You will.
joe rogan
Everybody loves it.
andrew santino
It's so fun.
joe rogan
Nobody takes up golf and goes, this sucks.
Everybody's like, dude, I'm so obsessed.
Like, Tony became a fucking straight-up junkie.
Jamie became a straight-up junkie.
andrew santino
I know, I see him.
joe rogan
Just from moving here.
andrew santino
Fiending in the garage with the track man.
joe rogan
The guy's out there.
First of all, he starts out normal, right?
He started out with just like a little piece of grass and his little computer setup.
Now he's got a net around it and a new fucking radar system to tell how fast the ball's going.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
He's filming himself to make sure his technique is right.
unidentified
Yes.
andrew santino
Are you checking your technique against something or no?
jamie vernon
No, just a feel.
joe rogan
Oh, you run shit through a program?
jamie vernon
Well, that's the next level.
andrew santino
Yeah, that is the next level up.
jamie vernon
I can hook up three high-speed cameras to that.
I can have my coach if I had one.
It goes right to his phone, basically.
joe rogan
Why don't you have a coach?
You need a coach, Jamie.
jamie vernon
I've talked to a few people.
Shout out Chris Coma.
andrew santino
You do need a coach.
joe rogan
Coaching is giant.
jamie vernon
I haven't actually been fully coached yet.
joe rogan
I played pool for a long time before I got coached.
I got coached a little bit a couple of times or a few lessons when I was starting out in the beginning, in the early days.
But then I met this dude, Max Eberle, who's like a professional instructor and also like a top flight pro, and he coached me.
Like, he gave me actual lessons.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when he gives you, like, you learn so much.
You learn what you're doing wrong, you learn why he's doing it this way, you learn, like, position play, what's the right way to move a ball to another ball.
andrew santino
But in golf, everyone's stroke can be different.
So is there a single perfect stroke that everyone's trying to emulate?
No.
So it's the same thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's the same thing.
Everything's all weird.
There was a guy named Keith McCready and he had the greatest stroke of all time and his arm was totally sideways.
It was totally fucked up.
It's supposed to be 90 degrees from your elbow down.
If someone was teaching you, like if you watch a snooker player for example, they call it snooker.
They're playing on a giant ass table with little tiny balls.
They have to have perfect technique.
The way they hit the ball is so straight and so smooth.
And they make really good pool players.
A lot of those guys come over and start playing pool and dominate because they're so accurate.
Because they're used to these little tiny balls and they're used to having this perfect stroke.
But pool players, they do all kinds of different shit.
Like some guys, you've got guys who have that slip stroke thing going on.
You've got guys who are like Keith McCready, who's the rarest of the rarest, totally sideways with his arm.
Like his arm would be like this while he's playing.
He wouldn't be playing like this.
andrew santino
But it's out here.
joe rogan
It's out on the side.
andrew santino
But it works.
joe rogan
Because he learned how to play when he was a little kid and he couldn't reach the table.
andrew santino
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
So he had his arm up there like this.
andrew santino
Oh, that's genius.
joe rogan
Because, you know, the table's where his chin is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's learning how to play with his arm sideways.
andrew santino
That's like the guy, Jamie, what's a Korean guy that swings out of his shoes?
You know, a little Korean guy who literally flies out of his shoes?
Dude, you should see this guy.
It's the funniest shit you've ever seen.
He is a pro golfer who has a swing like a guy who started a month ago.
And he literally will swing so hard his body will turn, he'll drop shit.
Watch this guy.
That's an easy one.
This is...
joe rogan
But is he good?
andrew santino
Yeah, he's good.
Look at that.
He falls down.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
andrew santino
Look at it on the right, Joe.
Straight down the middle.
300 yards.
joe rogan
Yeah, as long as it's repeatable.
I mean, that's the thing with pool.
It's repeatable.
That's the thing with archery.
That's the thing with a lot of things.
A lot of people have goofy archery stances, but if it's repeatable...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The question is, is it repeatable under pressure?
Because pressure is a fascinating thing, because you just want it to be over.
You have anxiety, you rush things, you fuck things up.
And you've got to learn how to stay inside your technique and inside your mindset and inside your pre-shot routine, even under pressure.
So that's got to be the same with everything.
That's why it's really important to learn great technique.
If you have your own flair, you should learn how to do it right first.
Thousands and millions of people have been doing this.
They figured out how to do it right.
You could have variations and deviations of that, but there's certain things like with Taekwondo, when I was teaching, it was very hard to teach someone who had already taken bad classes.
So if someone had went to like a karate school and they were kicking with their knee down and they had no power, it was all in the legs and not in the hips, And you would try to, like, teach these people, under pressure, they would always revert back to their earlier form.
Right.
Under sparring pressure.
Under fighting.
When they were fighting in competitions, they always, when shit would get wild, they'd always revert.
And they would lose power, they'd lose speed.
You lose a direct linear line to the attack point.
You're deviating.
You have too much wit.
Like, when you see people throwing looping punches, sometimes they work.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes they work.
But...
Most of the time, you're better off if you have that as an option, but you straight punch most of the time.
Your hooks are clean, your straight punch is clean, but every now and then you can do some wild shit and get away with it.
But you have to learn how to do everything else first.
Otherwise, you leave too many openings.
That's got to be the same with golf.
It's got to be the same with everything.
andrew santino
Well, yeah, well, it's, you know, like, if somebody had lessons before, the trick is, what he knows, is, like, sometimes they have to untangle, like a fucking phone wire, what someone else has done to you.
Because you can keep changing as you get older, your body will change, you know, like Tiger goes through it, his back, so he changed the way he swings, like, that's the same thing, and your techniques have to change with time and your body and your limits, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
andrew santino
And guys will pick a style, kind of stick to it, and then tweak it over time because you've got to find the thing that literally...
I equate it to when I started snowboarding, learning how to go to your toe side.
Everyone can heel side.
Everyone can stop like this with their back to the mountain.
But face to the mountain is always so scary at first because you feel like you're going to...
Catch an edge and hit your fucking head, which you do when you're starting.
But once you learn your version of how to shift your weight, it's like, it's riding a bike, cliche, but you immediately go, I know exactly how my body does that.
You feel the moment you learn it, you go, Oh.
joe rogan
Do you remember those hoverboards we had at the old studio?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Little wheelie things?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
The first time I got on the thing, I could not fucking stand still.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
My friend Tate had to hold my arm.
I was like...
I was like falling.
Like, you've seen the video of Mike Tyson falling?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mike Tyson!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mike Tyson.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's a fucking better athlete than Mike Tyson?
Falls on his ass riding one of those things.
But then once I got the hang of it, dude, I could just cruise around.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like my body knew exactly what it did, and it just goes, oh, we got a program for that.
andrew santino
Yeah.
They plug it in.
joe rogan
Plug it in.
And then all of a sudden, I could just...
Jamie and I were doing it all the time.
But Jamie fell and broke his ass bone.
Like, literally broke his ass bone.
jamie vernon
I was fucking around.
andrew santino
He's gonna say he was fucking around, but he wasn't.
He was cruising.
joe rogan
Oh, he was definitely fucking around.
andrew santino
Before you do it.
joe rogan
He was always fucking around.
jamie vernon
I was trying to film and do his different stuff.
I just took my eye off the prize for a second.
andrew santino
Did you break your tailbone for real?
jamie vernon
Nah, I don't think so.
He broke his tailbone.
I got hurt though, for sure.
joe rogan
Bro, you were hurt for a year.
jamie vernon
I probably still am hurt.
andrew santino
Alright, you broke your tailbone.
Bro, I tried to cover it up.
joe rogan
I know people that have broken their tailbone.
It's real similar in all the...
I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I think it's real similar.
jamie vernon
I fell on my side on the tailbone, technically, so it would have been something in my hip.
joe rogan
No, you can break your hip bone, your tailbone, by falling on your hip.
If you hit, look, any time you're putting that kind of pressure on your hip, when you're falling and all your weight is going down to concrete, which is what it was, we have polished concrete floors, it's immovable, and you're hitting bone, and all kinds of stuff goes crack!
andrew santino
Yeah, it's gonna fucking hurt.
joe rogan
Stuff up here goes crack, there goes crack.
When I fell skiing the last time I skied, I fucking cracked- I got what's called an insufficiency fracture, where it fractured at the top where my shin meets my cartilage.
Yeah, I was like, fuck skiing.
andrew santino
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Fuck this.
andrew santino
Well, that's like the first time you snowboard.
You fall on your ass, dude.
It hurts so bad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
Because your body's not used to that kind of fall.
Not since you were a baby learning how to walk.
Was your ass squishy enough to bounce?
Now you get older, dude.
joe rogan
You break.
andrew santino
Yeah, it hurts.
joe rogan
My boy Shane Dorian, he's a world champion big wave surfer.
He was snowboarding a year and a half ago.
Two years ago, actually.
And just blew his fucking knee out, man.
Slammed into a tree.
And this is a guy who's a professional surfer.
I think he tore his ACL and his MCL. He had to get surgery.
And then we hooked him up with Ways to Well here in Austin.
They stem celled him.
And fixed his name.
andrew santino
Fixed his shit fast.
joe rogan
Well, fixed it after he'd gone through a lot of rehabilitation.
But that was the big thing that really helped him and pushed him over the edge and got him back to it.
andrew santino
Yeah, it gets scary.
joe rogan
You're a fucking pro surfer?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
To be doing that?
That seems so insane to me.
andrew santino
Yeah, but snowboarding is so funny.
joe rogan
It must be so exciting.
andrew santino
Riding down a fucking mountain is so fun.
My buddy just broke a couple ribs.
He was with his kids, and we got this weird text chain that was like, hey, did you hear what happened?
At first, whenever you hear skiing shit, I immediately are like, what the fuck happened?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew santino
Luckily, all he did was break a few ribs and...
I mean, he's fucked up, but he's fine.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Bro, we lost Sonny Bono.
andrew santino
I know, dude.
unidentified
God bless.
andrew santino
We miss you, man.
joe rogan
Sonny Bono, we lost Sonny Bono into a fucking tree.
unidentified
Lost him.
andrew santino
Got him.
joe rogan
The tree got him.
andrew santino
The tree got his ass down.
unidentified
Boom!
andrew santino
Don't fuck with those trees.
joe rogan
Bro, that must be a horrible way to go.
andrew santino
I do not go in there.
joe rogan
You see the tree and you know there ain't a goddamn thing you can do to stop that motherfucker.
andrew santino
No thanks.
joe rogan
Boom!
andrew santino
I'm sticking to where I'm supposed to.
People are ballsy that go off.
If you're really good, people do it all the time, but I don't need that shit.
joe rogan
I don't need to clip a tree.
So many people get hurt skiing.
I mean, it's very fun, but boy, there's a lot of orthopedic surgeons in Aspen.
andrew santino
Yeah, they're like, keep skiing, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
We love it.
unidentified
Keep going.
joe rogan
I want to buy a Ferrari.
I want to buy a Ferrari.
andrew santino
Come on.
I want my sixth house, man.
Get up to that.
Get up to that mountain.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
But you fucking...
You get a thrill.
You get some juice out of it.
The guy with the fucking jetpack is the reason why he had all those straps on his knees.
andrew santino
I want that so bad, dude.
Just get one for me, will you, so I can come use it?
joe rogan
See if you can find the jetpack with the wings.
The guy flying a jetpack with wings.
Because I saw one of those, I was like, oh, this is next level jetpack.
Because this is like a movie.
andrew santino
Yeah.
And then does he tip forward with the wings?
Or does he stay upright?
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
jamie vernon
This is a little different.
This guy's got a wingsuit on with some jet-powered jetpack.
unidentified
Oh, fuck!
andrew santino
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
unidentified
Oh my god, that's so insane.
andrew santino
That's nuts.
joe rogan
The wingsuit's insane, period.
andrew santino
Period.
joe rogan
My boy Andy Stumpf had the world record at one point for the longest wingsuit flight.
andrew santino
How long was it?
jamie vernon
It's the same thing.
andrew santino
Oh my god, look at how high this dude is.
joe rogan
They dropped him out of space, though.
I know that.
andrew santino
Oh, Red Bull did that.
I saw that, right?
joe rogan
No, there's a different one.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Maybe it was Red Bull.
Who did the Andy Stumpf one?
See, there was a big sponsor.
So you could find Andy Stumpf.
unidentified
Because he was right.
andrew santino
He was just outside of our...
joe rogan
World record...
Jump.
Wingsuit.
Squirrel suit.
I caught a squirrel suit.
andrew santino
Yeah, I think that was the one I saw.
He jumps out of like a little cage.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
That's Andy.
So...
andrew santino
Oh, this wasn't the one I saw, yeah.
I saw the one from space.
joe rogan
So he hops out this fucking thing...
And, you know, look how high he is.
That's so ridiculous.
andrew santino
He's got oxygen on.
joe rogan
It's so high up there.
Andy's such a psycho.
He loves that shit.
jamie vernon
17.5 miles, jeez.
andrew santino
Wait, what?
joe rogan
He flew 17.5 miles in that squirrel suit.
Look at this.
Literally has oxygen on.
There's no air up there, bitch.
andrew santino
35,000 feet.
joe rogan
35,000 feet.
He's up there with a plane.
That is so crazy.
Oh my god, he's going 141 miles an hour.
That's as fast as you drive a golf ball.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude, that's insane.
joe rogan
No, you were driving, what was your top one today?
164. What is the fastest you've ever done?
andrew santino
I think the fastest on the track, man, was about 170, right around there.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Like, what's top of the food chain, like, pro...
andrew santino
Look up what, I think, look up what, uh, yeah, I think Berkshire 225?
jamie vernon
25, I think so.
andrew santino
What the fuck?
He's a long drive guy, though.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
andrew santino
Have you seen these guys?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I've seen those guys that do that thing where they step and they drive into it that, you know, those...
andrew santino
That's him.
joe rogan
Is that him?
andrew santino
Yeah, he's a long drive dude and he...
Show him in a long drive competition.
Oh my god!
Go to a competition, Jamie, where he's outside, where you can see him hit it outside.
Like this, Joe.
Watch this ball flight.
jamie vernon
Look at that.
joe rogan
I love the dude's hair.
andrew santino
390 yards, Joe.
joe rogan
That's so ridiculous!
That's so far!
andrew santino
But this guy's swing speed is, look, you see it right there, 217. Oh my god.
Ball speed.
unidentified
Club is 150. They send him to Mesquite, Nevada, and they go down this range.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And this Justin James cat, he got 390?
jamie vernon
390. So he's going to beat it.
He's got eight chances to beat it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
andrew santino
But you only get eight balls.
That's it.
He has to beat it within this, otherwise he's out.
So that's why he'll take his time for a second and set up.
He's on a clock, but you know.
joe rogan
Bro, you gotta love the hair.
andrew santino
He just cut it, though, sadly.
unidentified
No!
andrew santino
Yeah, he cut it.
joe rogan
Why would he do that?
andrew santino
I don't fucking know.
joe rogan
Look at that main.
jamie vernon
460-yard drives here.
andrew santino
460. What?
Watch this.
Watch how he...
And it's got to be, Joe, inside these lines, too.
So you can't just hit it anywhere.
It's got to be within this field.
Look at that.
That was just a cold 415. Oh, my God.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
andrew santino
And that's warming up.
He's just getting fucking started.
joe rogan
Now I understand why Tiger would blow his back out doing this.
andrew santino
Well, yeah.
That's exactly why.
joe rogan
Now I get it.
andrew santino
So much torsion.
The best golfers in the world, you'll see, guys like Ricky Fowler, size-wise, I mean, they're skinny guys.
They're tiny guys, some of these guys.
But they can pipe it because it's all torqued.
It's all below.
A lot of guys think it's all upstairs.
Everybody wants it to be like you want to fucking hit.
You have a hammer, dude.
Everybody wants to go this way.
But the problem is it has so much to do with your lower body snapping you into the ball.
jamie vernon
Probably the best.
Tiger says he's got the best swing.
andrew santino
Roy has the best swing.
And see how much torsion is in his lower body?
See that?
How he snaps his lower body through?
joe rogan
That's incredible.
Look at his technique, too.
Look at the finish of it.
It's funny that that other guy's so wacky.
andrew santino
I know, see?
joe rogan
When you see that, when you see that perfect technique.
andrew santino
Rory's top in the world.
That other guy is good, but he's nowhere near this.
That guy's good, but he's not...
This is different.
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew santino
That guy's gonna make money and do well for the rest of his life, but...
Top, top shit.
Rory's gotta be...
jamie vernon
It's almost like a difference to those dart guys.
It's just, if you throw a fastball baseball pitcher up there to just throw against them, but they're throwing those little darts at the thing, and the other guys just don't fast as fuck.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It is amazing watching people learn to do something that's really hard to do.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
And getting really good at it.
When you watch someone do acrobatics, or you watch Cirque du Soleil, you're like, what the fuck?
andrew santino
Absurd.
unidentified
How?
andrew santino
Have you seen the one where they jump in the water?
joe rogan
Which one?
andrew santino
The Cirque du Soleil...
LaRev.
Did you ever heard of this?
joe rogan
No.
andrew santino
Bro, I don't even know if it's around anymore, but when I went to Vegas one time, I got fucking baked out of my mind and went to see them.
And dude, I audibly, like an old lady, I'd be like, ah!
Because I got nervous.
They would jump in these little tiny, tiny holes from like 70 feet up, just into a little tiny...
But if they missed, they're dead.
The floor moves underwater.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
andrew santino
So you'll watch it raise up underwater.
Shift Heights.
They'll climb up from one of the...
And acrobatically climb to the other one.
And then it'll drop into the water out of nowhere.
And then it'll raise up a little tiny window they have to dive into.
Dude, it's...
Have you seen...
La Rev, I think, is what it was called.
It will...
I don't know if it's around.
But if it's still around, go see it.
Because that was the wildest shit I've ever seen.
Oh, dude.
Every show...
To me has to be such a high level of precision.
There is no like...
You know when a band is like, dude, you missed that fucking...
joe rogan
Right.
You can't miss shit.
andrew santino
You're not missing a chord.
It's your neck in the water.
I saw it years ago.
joe rogan
I saw the Beatles one at the Mirage.
andrew santino
Oh yeah, I think I saw that.
unidentified
It's called Love.
joe rogan
It's fucking great.
andrew santino
Dude's on rollerblades doing flips and shit too.
joe rogan
But it's the music.
It also, you sort of re...
Discover the music of the Beatles.
Like, you forget how good their music was sometimes.
andrew santino
So good.
joe rogan
And when you hear it in that amazing arena where they have the Cirque du Soleil and the sound is incredible and the visuals are incredible.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, these guys.
andrew santino
Unreal.
unidentified
Goddamn.
andrew santino
You watched the documentary, I'm sure, and it was like...
What shocked me the most was how short of a time they were doing it.
This wasn't like a 30-year span where you're like, dude, the band made hits forever.
No, this was a little baby window they destroyed, and then poof, like that, it's gone.
joe rogan
Yoko Ono.
Came in and fucked it all up.
andrew santino
I know.
That's my Bobby Lee, dude.
Came in and fucked it all up.
joe rogan
Did you ever read Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers?
andrew santino
No, but I've heard you talk about it.
joe rogan
It's a great book.
And one of the chapters in the book is about the Beatles.
And it's about how the Beatles went to Hamburg, and they were playing in a strip club, and they were playing like eight hours a day.
So they were playing so much, and they were so tightly tuned.
They went back to Liverpool a couple of years later, and everybody was like, what the fuck happened?
They were just so tight and so smooth.
andrew santino
Did they go to Hamburg just to do a run, do a residency?
joe rogan
They went to work.
And so they're doing these shows, and they're performing together eight hours a day.
And so they're writing all these new songs, and they're performing, and I think they had to do covers, too.
And they're just fucking tightly...
andrew santino
Putting in their work, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, just like tightly coordinated, like Cirque du Soleil with music.
andrew santino
Watching Paul make, like, improv, so to speak, get back...
Watching that was...
I don't think I've ever seen any footage of something so magical happening that they were able to capture.
When he's like...
When you hear him just humming out what he thinks the words might be...
Dude, I was like...
We're witnessing little magic go off in his brain.
You're watching his synapses fire into being like...
What is that?
Get back!
Get back!
And you see, once he finds it, everything else kind of like, it's almost like when you're tripping and you see one thing and then it exposes all this other stuff and you're like, I see all of it now.
That's exactly what that looked like to me, that he found Get Back and it was like, get back to where you once belong.
I was like, holy shit.
joe rogan
A lot of those guys do that.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rick Rubin talked about that on the podcast.
andrew santino
Humming it out.
joe rogan
They sort of like make up words and shit.
And then they start putting words where the sound is.
andrew santino
Yeah, that's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just sort of like feel it.
They feel it.
Whatever the beat is, they start just talking over it and shit.
andrew santino
But then in my stony brain, I think, did their brain already know the words and they were just trying to find it?
Do you know what I mean?
Maybe.
joe rogan
I always wondered that about Jay-Z. Jay-Z is so impressive.
The way he can ad-lib lyrics.
Rick Rubin was talking about how they'll play a beat and he'll go and listen to the beat and just flow with the beat.
It's stuff that he wrote for weeks and weeks.
andrew santino
But he never wrote anything down.
joe rogan
No!
andrew santino
That always blew my mind.
joe rogan
Wild!
Wild!
andrew santino
I sadly want him to have written one thing down.
joe rogan
That ability is incredible.
But then there's guys like Nas, who I think is the best lyricist ever.
And Nas writes things down.
And you can tell he writes things down.
andrew santino
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because he'll do a rap backwards.
Remember that song, Reverse?
andrew santino
I love that song.
joe rogan
That song's incredible.
That is one of the most lyrically complicated and beautiful songs ever in the history of hip-hop.
andrew santino
And it also has the ability to just toss in there, he's getting a blowjob and throws up.
That's also my favorite.
He's a poet.
She spits the nut back into my dick.
The drink goes back into my cup.
I throw up.
Dude, it's so cool how he was able to tell that story backwards, but also still keep it in his vibe.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, he didn't break character.
It was still Nas telling a story like Nas would.
It didn't get corny at any point or, like, change shapes.
joe rogan
His new shit is great, too.
I love Nas.
He stays fantastic.
He stays relevant.
Like, if you're, like, a Nas fan, you will not be disappointed.
His new shit is just like his old shit.
It's great.
andrew santino
That was the hip-hop that I liked.
Jamie and I talk sometimes about hip-hop, but the new stuff, some new shit I like a lot, but, you know, stuff like Illmatic and...
joe rogan
Bro, his hip-hop is dead?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
That song comes...
So good.
That song comes on, you're like, oh, shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a few songs when they come on, I'm like, oh, shit.
You know, Gravel Pit by Wu-Tang Clan.
andrew santino
Oh, love.
joe rogan
When that song comes on, check out my Gravel Pit.
As soon as that comes on, that's like one of them songs that you just start moving.
andrew santino
It's classics.
Well, I had Feral Monch.
On tour, I would come out to Feral Monch, Simon Says.
Do you know that song?
No.
unidentified
You know it, don't you?
andrew santino
Let me hear it.
It's Dude.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure I know it.
andrew santino
Simon Says.
I come out to this song because I loved it so much.
But the crowd would lose their fucking mind.
joe rogan
This is from 13 years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
Trippy-ass music video.
I miss music videos.
joe rogan
This is MTV.
unidentified
That's how I feel at shows.
Oh, yeah.
andrew santino
Ugh.
unidentified
Get the fuck up.
Simon says, get the fuck up!
andrew santino
Ugh!
Girls, rub on your titties!
That's my favorite line.
Yeah, fuck it!
I said it!
Rub on your titties!
So, I was coming out to this, and then for the special, I wanted to use it.
And DJ Premier, who is a fan of comedy and knows Segura, and I reached out to him out of the blue.
I was like, hey man, I hope I'm not crossing lines here.
Would it be cool if you reached out to Pharoah about me licensing that song for the special?
And it's widely known in the hip-hop world.
Most, like, old hip-hop heads, they love that song.
And I was like, I don't know if I can afford it or whatever, but would you mind?
And shout-out to him, because within seconds, Premiere was like, yo, reach out to him, here's the deal.
That intro is from Godzilla 1, like the original.
And he never cleared it.
13, 15 years ago.
So the deal was, he's got the mechanics to the song, but can't license it out for stuff like this.
joe rogan
Let me hear that.
Have Godzilla walk out.
I want to see Godzilla anyway.
jamie vernon
Who sampled?
You can see all the samples.
andrew santino
Right, you can see every single...
Who sampled it in their music.
joe rogan
I love that they sample in hip-hop.
andrew santino
It's the best.
joe rogan
I love it.
It's cool.
andrew santino
But the problem is, stuff like that didn't clear.
So long ago, it didn't clear.
So what ended up...
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
Can you show me it, though?
Can you show me it when it happens?
Find the...
jamie vernon
Stop.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Jamie, can you show me Godzilla coming out to that sound?
I want to see actual Godzilla.
Because it was so dumb.
unidentified
Godzilla.
joe rogan
The actual Godzilla, if you go back and try to watch that, the idea that that's a monster movie, it's so goofy.
andrew santino
But it was crazy scary for people at the time.
People were like, oh shit!
joe rogan
It was amazing!
For people in 1960 or whenever Godzilla came out, I was like, what am I saying?
This is incredible!
Fire came out of his mouth, eh!
andrew santino
Yeah, it was so cool.
Yeah, and that sound was so, so, like, memorable, and so he didn't clear it, and then, you know, and Premiere was like, whatever I can do to help, you know, moving forward, and there's this other guy, RJ D2, who I loved, and ironically enough, I had wanted a song from him, and he was like...
I didn't clear that song.
And I was like, dude, the same shit!
So then he sent me a folder of unused beats.
He's like, I have stuff that I've made that I don't have and no one has, you know, that I still have.
He's like, do you want to hear someone?
He sent me one and that's one of the ones I chose.
And shout out to those guys for helping me out.
But it was so funny because he said the same thing.
He goes, dude, I was young when I did that.
We didn't clear shit.
joe rogan
Of course.
andrew santino
We were making dope shit, putting it out to the world.
And then sometimes...
joe rogan
They don't have lawyers to clear shit.
andrew santino
Fuck no.
He's like, those labels, half those labels from back, they're all gone.
They dissipated, or they got bought, or...
joe rogan
How many great, great songs in hip-hop they sampled?
Old music, like old...
andrew santino
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
James Brown tracks, and all kinds of shit.
andrew santino
I talked about William Bell.
I love William Bell.
If you don't know who he is, he's great.
And so many people have sampled him, but they sample, like, even a word.
Like, Tim Robinson, his show, I Think You Should Leave, which is fun.
unidentified
He samples this, baby, baby, baby...
andrew santino
And it's from William Bell's, a piece of his song that he looped and put over itself.
And like, it's just cool to see how many people pick apart these old things.
I love hearing it and finding it and be like, do you know who that is?
And when people are like, no, it's like, oh, that's Ann Peebles.
That's, you know, it's just great.
I love seeing where the samples came from.
Because it's like, man, how did they find that?
Or why that of all the shit that they turn into something else?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, there's an art to that, man.
Oh, it's beautiful.
A lot of those old hip-hop dudes used to have just enormous collections of records they would just listen to just to try to find samples.
andrew santino
Digging in the crates constantly to find something like that.
joe rogan
Do you find Godzilla's emergence?
jamie vernon
No, that's it.
It's from a 1992 film.
joe rogan
That sound is?
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a 1992 Godzilla?
Probably a way better Godzilla.
jamie vernon
It's from a soundtrack...
andrew santino
So it's not the original Godzilla?
jamie vernon
The original...
So this says it's from...
Whether or not this is right or not, I guess we'll have to go into that.
joe rogan
Godzilla vs.
Mothra?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this says it's from Godzilla vs.
Mothra, which came out in 1992. Okay.
And then I found that movie, but I have no idea where they would have used that 12-second sample, because it's on the soundtrack.
joe rogan
This is the whole movie of Godzilla vs.
Mothra?
Just show Godzilla coming out so that it happens.
unidentified
Yeah, let's see him.
jamie vernon
I guarantee...
There's a hard...
joe rogan
Hard to find it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know where.
I've never seen this movie.
andrew santino
I've never seen it.
joe rogan
Godzilla vs.
Mothra from 1992. How many people saw this?
jamie vernon
I don't know that they're going to play the soundtrack when it comes out.
I highly doubt it.
joe rogan
Let's find where- just so you can see what Godzilla- what did Godzilla look like in 92?
I didn't see this movie.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it wasn't- it came out in Japan.
joe rogan
That's like- Right!
Okay.
Isn't that wild?
Like, he found a sample from fucking Japan from a Japanese movie.
andrew santino
There it is.
joe rogan
Oh, here it is.
Oh, he looks terrible.
unidentified
There it is. - You're in the background?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
It's not even hurt!
joe rogan
It's not even her.
jamie vernon
It's gonna land.
unidentified
We have to stop it.
joe rogan
That's one of the best parts about Godzilla's dubs.
The dubs are so terrible.
andrew santino
We have to do our best to find out where he's going.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that.
It's not even hurting him.
Here's Godzilla.
Oh, Godzilla's in a fight with Mothra.
Oh, Mothra's jizzing all over him.
andrew santino
Jizzing all over him, dude.
joe rogan
It's silk.
He's covered him with silk.
Imagine that's all it takes to fuck Godzilla up.
Just a little bit of silk.
andrew santino
He's all tapped out.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look how corny it looks.
And that's like the updated Godzilla.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Now go to the original Godzilla.
Go to the original Godzilla movie.
That looks so bad.
jamie vernon
The Matthew Broderick one came out like four years after this, didn't it?
joe rogan
Right.
The Matthew Broderick movie was pretty good.
In terms of special effects.
It was a terrible movie.
But in terms of special effects, it was a pretty good movie.
He's got the downs.
100%.
andrew santino
It's a meme.
unidentified
Mafra.
joe rogan
This is from 1964?
Bro, look how bad this is!
Oh my god.
Oh my god, this is so corny.
You can even hear the helicopter flying overhead that gives them the wind.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
You hear the helicopter?
unidentified
Look how corny Godzilla is! - - There it is in the background right there.
jamie vernon
It's a different version of it, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Don't don't don't When my daughters were really young when they were like four and six My wife was out of town, and I said do you guys want to watch a scary movie?
And they're like, no, we're scared.
I go, no, no, no, a bad scary movie, corny.
I want to show you a scary movie from the 1930s.
It's called King Kong.
And they're like, what is it?
I go, it's about a giant gorilla.
But I go, but the special effects are so bad, you're going to laugh.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so bad.
And so six-year-olds, right, from whatever, you know, six years ago, watching a movie that was a scary movie at the time.
andrew santino
At the time, yeah.
joe rogan
In 1933, when people saw King Kong for the first time, go to King Kong from 1933. When people saw that, whatever year it was, was it 33?
Am I making that up?
andrew santino
I want to say it predates World War II. People thought that was like the craziest shit they'd ever seen.
33. What is it?
joe rogan
33. 33. 1933 King Kong.
So go to 1933 King Kong and this is made with clay.
Look how bad this is.
So my kids thought it was hilarious.
I go, how bad does this look?
It looks so bad.
Like they weren't scared at all.
They were laughing and then they were relieved that it wasn't scary.
So then they started laughing really hard.
Look how corny this is.
But in 1933, they're like, I can't believe what we're seeing.
King Kong is actually fighting a dinosaur.
And there's a lady watching it?
andrew santino
But it's like, whenever you revisit that shit, when I was, I remember Babysitter showed me The Exorcist.
Far before I should have seen it.
And I remember how crazy, I thought that was insane.
That movie was so scary, it gave me nightmares.
joe rogan
Look at the new one.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's insane.
joe rogan
The new one's incredible.
jamie vernon
That's what the ride is almost at Universal.
joe rogan
Isn't it hilarious how King Kong always falls in love with a white chick?
But look how badass this King Kong is.
This King Kong is incredible.
andrew santino
He'd have smushed her for sure.
joe rogan
And what year is this?
jamie vernon
It says three years ago, but I don't know exactly if that's right.
05?
andrew santino
Oh, five.
Yeah, I was gonna say, that looks like it might be a while ago.
Oh, now the newest shit's probably...
jamie vernon
Yeah, they remade it again, I think.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, they did.
But then King Kong kept growing, because now King Kong has to fight Godzilla.
Godzilla's 500 feet tall.
andrew santino
Yeah, right, I saw that.
joe rogan
So the idea is that King Kong has, like, some sort of a genetic malformity that makes him just continue to grow forever and ever.
So now they don't visit Kong Island for a few years, and they come back and...
andrew santino
He's got a lump on his pituitary gland.
He just never stopped growing.
joe rogan
Yeah, so this is the regular-sized King Kong.
This is the 50-foot King Kong.
andrew santino
See, that looks fucking unreal.
joe rogan
Smash!
Boom!
I mean, yeah, the fucking special effects are incredible.
It's so amazing what they do with CGI, but at the same time, you know that that's not real.
You feel it's not real.
andrew santino
It just feels fake.
joe rogan
That's what's like, people that do, like Rick Baker, those guys that did special effects for American Werewolf in London, they say that you can't replace the physical special effects where an actual object is attacking an actual person.
andrew santino
I remember that too.
When I was a kid, I thought that was...
I had nightmares of, like, stairs.
I hated stairs.
Yeah, it just freaked me out so much when I was a kid.
joe rogan
Back then, man, this movie freaked people out, dude.
They were so scared that their kids could get possessed by a devil.
andrew santino
She was so good.
I bought it.
I was like, that bitch is possessed.
joe rogan
I think that movie fucked her up.
andrew santino
Yeah, right?
For the rest of her life?
joe rogan
I think so.
andrew santino
Well, because she did it so young.
She's a kid in that movie.
It's like, to be in that mindset, 12 hours a day on set shooting...
joe rogan
Yelling, your mother sucks cocks in hell.
Remember that?
andrew santino
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Your mother sucks cocks in hell!
Whoa!
Whoa!
andrew santino
Yeah, but you have to do that.
joe rogan
Was that 76?
What year was The Exorcist?
andrew santino
That's what happens to actors that get embedded in those things that go deep, deep, deep.
Sometimes the brain takes a while to get back.
joe rogan
I would imagine that if you're playing...
73. 73. If you're a child and you're playing someone who's possessed by a demon...
andrew santino
Yeah, come on.
joe rogan
And you believe in demons when you're a child, too.
andrew santino
For sure.
joe rogan
Do you believe in demons?
andrew santino
Still do, yeah.
unidentified
Do you?
andrew santino
For sure.
joe rogan
They might be real.
andrew santino
They gotta be.
There's gotta be external forces around.
I can't imagine that all this energy in your body goes to nowhere.
I don't buy it.
joe rogan
Well, that's not even the question about demons.
Where your energy goes is a really good question.
But the question about demons is, are there external forces that are playing against you?
They're actual entities.
andrew santino
But I think negative energy goes into those things.
That's what I guess I mean.
I think what builds those things is negative, really toxic, evil shit builds negative things.
joe rogan
In another dimension.
andrew santino
Fuck yeah.
I definitely believe that.
joe rogan
And if you're doing evil shit, you're probably even more haunted by those things.
andrew santino
When you die, it doesn't just go away.
It goes somewhere, into a thing.
I wholeheartedly believe that.
And honestly, the first time I really felt Like when I saw, you know, the Irish, for some reason, we love wakes.
We like to see people when they're dead.
I like how the Jews do it.
They're like, I'm not fucking looking at that person when they're dead.
joe rogan
I had the same experience.
I know what you're going to say.
andrew santino
And I couldn't look at my grandmother the whole time.
And then my mom was like, we're going to leave, so you ought to say goodbye.
And I was like, alright.
And I walked up there, and I felt this sense of relief because I was like, oh, the thing I loved isn't even in there anymore.
unidentified
Right.
andrew santino
This was a vessel.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew santino
And whatever was in there is somewhere better, and I felt immediately like this weird, like someone was telling me like, this is just the shell, man.
The thing you like, it's in a really great place.
It's all good.
Right.
joe rogan
That's the weirdest part about seeing someone dead, is this feeling that they've left.
andrew santino
Yeah, they're not in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not in there.
jamie vernon
Did you see this, the Pope?
joe rogan
Whoa, is this the new Pope?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he passed away, they did the funeral, and they brought him out without a coffin and left him on display.
joe rogan
That's dark.
andrew santino
Pope don't need no coffin!
joe rogan
That's dark.
jamie vernon
Everyone came up and kissed his hands and stuff.
andrew santino
Wild.
joe rogan
That is a crazy gig.
That guy had the craziest past.
Pope Benedict?
He had the craziest past because he was charged with moving priests around that had committed atrocities.
And he moved one to a place where they molested a hundred deaf kids.
andrew santino
What?
joe rogan
Yes.
Google that.
andrew santino
A hundred deaf kids?
joe rogan
A hundred deaf kids got molested by this one priest that he had moved, I believe when he was a cardinal.
andrew santino
No, you don't hear him coming.
That's the problem.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
You can't even help yourself.
andrew santino
Cut it out.
Son of a bitch.
But the new one's supposed to be chill, right?
joe rogan
Well, I think he had to take it down a notch, so the new one got, you know, fucking a regular throne.
He's like, this gold throne's a little outdated.
andrew santino
And he's like pro-gay marriage and all that stuff.
joe rogan
Well, that's nice.
A little bit more than 100. 200 Def Kits.
Oh my god.
The priest might have molested 200 deaf boys.
Top Vatican officials, including future Pope Benedict XVI, did not defrock a priest who molested as many as 200 deaf boys, even though several American bishops repeatedly warned them that failure to act on the matter could embarrass the church, according to the files.
Recently unearthed as part of a lawsuit.
Imagine your concern is embarrassing the church.
Not that this guy is fucking kids.
Imagine!
andrew santino
Yeah, we don't want the church to look bad.
joe rogan
Imagine your concern, and not one guy, but multiple bishops, right?
andrew santino
Yeah.
It's nuts.
Have you been to the Vatican, by the way?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
On edibles.
andrew santino
Shit is dark.
joe rogan
I went there on edibles.
andrew santino
Did you?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
That shit creeped me out, dude.
The whole time I was like, I don't like this at all.
I just didn't like the fact that they were like, we have our own cops.
joe rogan
Well, no extradition.
andrew santino
We can do whatever we want.
joe rogan
They're basically a country inside of a city.
andrew santino
They have their own rules, their own laws.
joe rogan
And there's a bunch of people in there that people would like to try.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
They would like to pull them out of there and try them.
andrew santino
Can't do it.
joe rogan
For crimes against humanity.
andrew santino
Protected.
You saw that documentary about the little girl that went missing from the Vatican?
joe rogan
No.
andrew santino
No?
joe rogan
No.
andrew santino
I don't even know what it's called, Jamie.
The girl who went missing is what I think my instinct is saying, but it's about a resident.
You know, there's a small amount of residents that live in the Vatican walls, in Vatican City.
Her family was one of them.
And this has got to be, I don't know, 30 years ago?
She went missing, and the story is fucking wild.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's called Vatican Girl.
I just Googled it two days ago.
It says they reopened the case, so I don't know.
andrew santino
Dude, you have to watch this.
It's bananas.
joe rogan
What do they think happened?
andrew santino
Well, there's a bunch of different conspiracies.
There's a bunch of different, like...
There is kind of a somewhat clear-cut answer in it, but there's multiple points where even they go, I don't know.
This may come from multiple avenues of...
This being a very well-coordinated thing.
Like a kidnapping.
And it's crazy.
And they just reopened it up.
joe rogan
Kidnapping from someone who lives in the Vatican?
andrew santino
I don't want to tell you.
jamie vernon
The family lived there.
It says there might have been a kidnapping to blackmail the Pope at the time.
andrew santino
There's a bunch of different theories, and as you watch it, they talk about multiple theories about what it's like.
But also, the crazy thing is, you'd think if you lived in the Vatican, you're living high on the hog.
No.
These people were commoner, lower class to lower middle class.
It's not because they're in there.
You're not automatically living like a king.
If you're just a citizen...
joe rogan
So were they help?
Did they work there?
andrew santino
Yeah, they were workers.
They were workers.
joe rogan
Oh, so the workers lived there.
andrew santino
But they don't treat them any kind of...
It's like they all live pretty, you know...
Modestly.
Modestly.
And your family's born into it, so you're kind of born in it.
And this girl was...
She would go to a school outside of the Vatican walls.
Like a performance art school, if I'm not mistaken.
And, you know, a regular route.
From there to there, there to there, there to there.
And then one day...
jamie vernon
Oh, here's why.
The Pope's longtime secretary is about to release a book this week.
andrew santino
Ruh-roh.
jamie vernon
And that's why they may have an investigation.
He's got information on it that's going to come out in the book.
andrew santino
About that girl?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
andrew santino
It's wild.
This is two days ago that she just started popping up?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
andrew santino
I don't care if I didn't see it.
jamie vernon
Top of the thing.
Vatican reopens investigation.
andrew santino
That's her.
Yeah.
Emanuela.
joe rogan
In 1983 she went missing.
andrew santino
Orlandi.
40 years ago, yeah.
joe rogan
They've gotten away with so much.
unidentified
Sketchy.
joe rogan
They've gotten away with so much.
andrew santino
So sketchy.
joe rogan
I mean, I know everybody wants to concentrate, and rightly so, on Epstein Island, but how about the Vatican?
How about just the entire...
You could be a person who doesn't know how to read, and you know that priests fuck kids.
andrew santino
Uh-huh.
Someone that's barely heard of it's like, oh, I did hear about those guys.
joe rogan
Everybody knows that that's a problem.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
It's not like NASCAR drivers.
Imagine if NASCAR drivers were known for molesting children.
You'd be like, that is cool.
Why is that still a thing?
andrew santino
It's part of a culture, man.
joe rogan
Forever people knew that priests fuck kids.
andrew santino
100%.
joe rogan
It's never happened to me, but I've had multiple friends that were in Catholic school.
They got chased by a priest.
This one guy went on a retreat with his priest, and the priest made him sleep in the bed with him, and he was chasing him around the room.
andrew santino
No, no, no.
joe rogan
And he had to literally fight off the priest and scream, and he wouldn't give in.
andrew santino
What was the name of the movie that exposed all that stuff?
You know, about the newspaper.
Mark Ruffalo?
What?
Am I crazy?
Why can't I think of the name of that fucking...
jamie vernon
Boston newspaper?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro, there's so many.
andrew santino
And it was a real story where the Boston Globe...
Spotlight.
And they went out of their way to expose them in real life.
They made a movie about it, but it's like, didn't even do anything.
Didn't do shit.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
andrew santino
A credible newspaper was like, we have unbelievable amounts of evidence.
And still, it's like, well, what are you going to do?
joe rogan
They don't even lose their tax-free exemption.
andrew santino
I know.
Nothing happens.
joe rogan
The tax-free thing is wild because when Scientology got it, you're like, yo!
What is this?
What is this thing?
No taxes if you claim that you're a religion?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know how many fucking religions there could be?
andrew santino
This is a religion.
You could say your show is a religion.
joe rogan
Hardly.
andrew santino
But there you go.
You have loyal listeners.
joe rogan
So what?
It's just conversations.
andrew santino
But that could be a religion.
There's no rules.
How do you apply to make a religion?
Look it up.
I'm serious.
joe rogan
Listen, stop fucking with me.
andrew santino
This is a religion.
You know it is.
You know it's like an inch away from being one.
You could just say, you have followers.
They listen to you.
They like what you put out.
Doesn't mean you have to have some sort of like spiritual ideology.
Religion could be anything.
This could slot as a religion.
For sure.
It just means a bunch of people listen to a uniform thought process if you put out like a continual thing.
I don't think you need a book.
I don't think you need shit.
joe rogan
You know Alex Gray?
andrew santino
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
The visionary artist?
I'm sure you've seen his work.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
In every dorm room wall of someone who smokes weed, they have an Alex Gray poster.
andrew santino
It's Jad or Justin Bua, the piano guy.
That was also in the dorm rooms.
joe rogan
This is Alex Gray.
andrew santino
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You've seen his work.
Well, Alex Gray started a religion, like a legitimate religion.
He's a really spiritual person.
Legitimately, when you meet him, you're blown away.
He's the real deal.
And he has a church that he built that is designed around his art.
And he got tax-exempt status.
It's called Entheon.
That's the church.
Like, this is the place.
Like, how amazing is that?
andrew santino
Where is that?
joe rogan
It's in upstate New York.
So he bought land, and then he set it up for a church, made it tax-exempt.
You've got to see what it looks like on the outside.
I mean, this is the inside.
It's fucking gorgeous.
Because it's a church that's designed by an amazing artist.
That's the outside of it.
Look at that.
Entheon.
Play that video.
Yeah, go full screen, please.
It's amazing.
andrew santino
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And you know, this guy's been an incredible artist forever.
But he had, the first time he came on the podcast, he had just the idea for this.
So all those faces all around it, it's all from his artwork and it all had to be 3D designed.
That's him and his wife.
And so this is him and his wife and his paintings.
So they have like fucking yoga classes there and shit.
They're like a real church.
Look at this.
I mean, imagine going into the woods with all these hippies, and you go do yoga in that place with this guy.
andrew santino
I know.
joe rogan
And you're all chanting and shit.
And he's a real deal.
He's not trying to rip people off.
He's just a genuinely beautiful person who's an amazing artist, who's created a real church.
They play music, and they get together.
It's not like he gets to fuck everybody's wife.
It's a regular church.
andrew santino
I hope it stays that way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it will.
andrew santino
Because this story sometimes goes the wrong way.
joe rogan
They almost always go the wrong way.
andrew santino
It goes to a place where it's like, he got the power and he was like, all right, we have to pray naked.
And then someone's got to sit on my face.
joe rogan
And then we need to protect ourselves from the government.
andrew santino
We gotta kill everybody we know that doesn't like us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
You don't want it to go down that road.
joe rogan
But they almost always do.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude, that's what I'm saying.
As I'm watching that, the whole time I'm like, I know he's your boy.
I hope it stays this way.
I hope it doesn't shift into something I don't want it to be.
I watched the, you know, NXIVM or whatever.
I watched that one.
joe rogan
I didn't see that one, but I heard it's wild.
andrew santino
Bro, it's just, you're like...
Also, the women's empowerment one, that was another one that was nuts.
joe rogan
What's that one?
andrew santino
This woman in San Francisco had started, you know, like a sexual revolution club, a freedom for women to be the powerful versions of themselves.
joe rogan
She gets to bang everybody's husband.
andrew santino
Yes, she fucks everybody.
By the end, she fucked the whole crew.
It was all see-through.
She was like, this is for women to take back their empowerment.
It was in San Francisco, I think.
And she was extremely manipulative and intelligent.
The way she would break down people's relationships into...
Joining her ideology about sex and love and relationships, they would just snap into her thing.
And it was all about making a woman come.
The whole thing was about, can you make your woman come and make that the priority?
But then, after a couple years, she's like, I want to suck a couple dicks.
She let a couple dicks in and then it all led down the same road, dude.
It all goes down to the same place.
Power.
They love the power.
joe rogan
Well, it's also, if you're a person who doesn't...
You have a hard time knowing who you are.
Maybe you think you're more than you are or you want more than you're getting.
And then all of a sudden you're in this position where people revere you.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's intoxicating.
And then you're literally speaking at a church.
You're speaking to your flock.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think that's why they made Catholic priests celibate.
I think they were probably banging everybody back in the day.
Don't you think?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Of course.
andrew santino
They were rock stars.
Like, Giancarlo, you're fucking way too many of the members.
joe rogan
What?
What do I do wrong?
andrew santino
What do I do wrong?
joe rogan
You're talking about Italians, first of all.
unidentified
Savages.
joe rogan
Savage people.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
And then you're talking about Italians from a thousand years ago, even more savage.
And then you're talking about the one dudes who could read Latin.
So they're reading the Bible.
No one else even knows what the fuck is going on.
Until Martin Luther came along.
And translated the Bible into phonetic languages.
What is it, German first?
Did Martin Luther convert it to...
He translated it into German, I think.
I forget what language it was, but he translated the Bible so that regular people who could read could read it, because they didn't know Latin.
And then he basically said you should interpret the Bible any way you see fit.
The Bible's there for you to interpret it, which was a fucking horrific affront to the Catholic Church.
The Catholic Church freaked out.
Like, all the churches back then probably wanted to kill him.
I don't know.
Was it the Catholic church that he did it to?
Whatever church it was.
andrew santino
Protestant?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm not sure what church it was.
But he spoke Latin, you know, and he translated.
The priests were the ones, like, you had to have formal training.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, Latin, even back then, was a dying language.
andrew santino
Even when there's people that still study it today, which is fucking wild.
joe rogan
Latin's wild.
andrew santino
What if they bring it back, though, huh?
joe rogan
Oh, it'd be a great thing to learn.
You can have conversations to people in Latin.
andrew santino
Behind somebody's back.
joe rogan
I wonder how well you can communicate with it.
andrew santino
I mean, I'm sure there's enough...
Well, you can't use any...
Of course, there's no slang in it, but you can make up new slang, Latin...
You know what I mean?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
The gabagool.
andrew santino
Yeah.
unidentified
The gabagool.
joe rogan
Get a little fucking bush of dush.
andrew santino
Strew your dell.
Strew your dell.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
You have to throw a dell.
They've got shit for that, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Imagine if they brought Latin back.
Well, what's stopping someone from inventing a new language and everyone adopting it?
jamie vernon
There's two guys talking.
joe rogan
You're talking in Latin?
jamie vernon
Yeah, well, let's talk about this.
unidentified
Hello, hello, hello, Luke.
jamie vernon
Thank you so much for coming on today.
unidentified
Sounds Chinese.
joe rogan
Let me hear it.
jamie vernon
That was that guy's name, I guess.
unidentified
Have you seen your videos online in Latin?
Thank you, friends.
My name is Lucius Amadeus Ranieri.
I'm born in Pennsylvania.
I'm born 366 years.
And I'm a YouTuber, and you are on my channel.
I'm happy to be here.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
I know some of that.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of Italian in there.
andrew santino
Yeah, I hear a bunch of it.
jamie vernon
I took two years in high school.
Some of it makes sense, but it's also...
Spanish makes more sense, too.
andrew santino
You have to sound like a cartoon version whenever I read it.
I immediately my voice goes like...
joe rogan
Did I ever tell you a time I encountered this church that was trying to get me to join when I was in college?
andrew santino
What was it?
joe rogan
I was taking Italian and there's people in this Italian class with me and there was this one hot Puerto Rican girl.
She wore glasses.
She was smoking.
andrew santino
There's always one.
joe rogan
She was so hot I couldn't talk to her.
I was like...
You know what I mean?
I didn't have much confidence about that.
And she invited me one day to go with her and her friends to some weekend retreat.
And I was like, what?
What are you guys doing?
I didn't know it was like a religious retreat.
She's trying to convert me.
And I thought I was just getting invited to this cool kids party.
I'm like, well, I can't this weekend, but, you know, maybe another time I could do it.
You know, like that weekend, I think I had a tournament or something like that.
It was when I was still competing.
And then, like a couple of weeks later, we're in the...
Actually, I think I was done doing fighting.
I think I was doing stand-up at the time.
So there's something going on.
I had a gig maybe.
Whatever it was.
I'm trying to remember what year it is because now I'm thinking it's like 89. Maybe even 90. So there was a plane crash and it was Trump's airplane.
It was like Trump Airlines and it crashed in Boston and like the front wheels didn't come down.
So they had to like skid into the runway with sparks and shit.
So I see them all eating and they invite me over to their table.
What year is this?
89. So it's perfect.
Right.
So it's right after I stopped fighting.
Maybe I was fighting a little bit and then right when I just started doing stand-up.
And there was this table full of them, and they come sit with us.
I'm like, okay, cool.
I go, hey, you guys hear about the plane crash?
And they go, no.
I go, yeah, the fucking front wheels didn't come down, the plane skid, there were sparks and everything.
And they're all staring at me.
I go, but nobody died.
And then that hot Puerto Rican girl goes, praise God, praise God.
And they all started going, praise God, praise God.
And I was like, praise God.
Oh, no.
And then immediately I'm like, duh, stupid.
She doesn't like you.
She doesn't like you.
She wants to convert you to her fucking wacky Christian cult.
andrew santino
Yeah, but if the pussy was good enough, you know, you might as well go to the can.
Just go check it out.
Check it out.
Do a trial run.
joe rogan
I was scared.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's too susceptible.
andrew santino
Well, Jesus lets them in the booty.
You know that.
You could always do booty stuff.
That's the Catholic loophole.
joe rogan
I don't think that's written anywhere.
I think someone can refute that.
andrew santino
Yes, it is.
I think it's in Corinthians.
Look it up.
413. First or second letter.
I think it's, yeah.
Thou shall enter booty.
joe rogan
It's literally sodomy.
It's literally Sodom and Gomorrah.
That's why he killed everybody.
andrew santino
That's right.
joe rogan
Everybody's all butt-fucking.
andrew santino
Tight it up.
joe rogan
That's a wrap.
andrew santino
Keep it tight, baby.
Keep it tight back there.
No, that's the...
Who does it?
joe rogan
That's a loophole?
andrew santino
No, no, yeah.
Who does it?
The Mormon kids, they do the soaking and then they do the bouncing.
joe rogan
The soaking is hilarious.
andrew santino
And you know about the bouncing.
You know this, right?
joe rogan
No, it's the bouncing.
andrew santino
Somebody goes underneath.
I don't know what it's called.
You can look it up.
Jamie knows.
Somebody gets onto the bed when someone's soaking and they push the bed so there's movement.
So it's almost as if they're fucking, but they aren't making the movement.
joe rogan
Oh my God, that's hilarious.
andrew santino
This is legit.
What's it called, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Jump humping.
andrew santino
Jump humping.
jamie vernon
Someone else jumps on the bed to get to bed.
andrew santino
Like you're trying to double-bounce someone on a trampoline so they'll start moving.
joe rogan
No, people find loopholes.
andrew santino
Jump-humping, dude.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
andrew santino
Warman Teens on TikTok, see that?
Jump-humping.
joe rogan
Finding themselves jump-humping, a tactic used to avoid thrusting during penetrative sex.
andrew santino
Because the thrusting, I think the thrusting is what is prohibited.
So you can soak.
joe rogan
That is amazing.
andrew santino
No in-and-out movement, but the jump-humpers.
joe rogan
It's amazing that you can soak.
andrew santino
You can soak.
I think they found the loophole, dude.
unidentified
You can soak.
jamie vernon
Soaking is amazing.
andrew santino
Yeah.
Jump-humping is so funny.
joe rogan
When you were a teenager, you were like, soaking, we're good.
I don't need to move.
andrew santino
No.
Well, also, but immediately you put it in.
unidentified
And you're like, I'm gone.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so dangerous.
And that's when kids, like, when teenagers are having sex with each other, they're at their most fertile and they're at their least control.
andrew santino
Yeah, that's why you're pregnant.
They're like, we just had sex once.
It's like, you're pregnant.
That's why you're pregnant.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how it goes sometimes.
andrew santino
Because your body is just like, okay.
And so I'm dumb.
And the moment as a kid, as a dude, the first time you fuck, you're just like...
joe rogan
Well, what's nuts is that that's how the body's designed.
Like, you are your most fertile, and you're the most likely to conceive.
And it's also like, that's what nature wants.
Nature wants you to have sex when you're a fucking kid.
You're 16!
andrew santino
That's because we weren't supposed to last more than 20 years.
I think nature was like, get this done now, you're dead in a decade.
joe rogan
No, but we haven't adapted to that yet.
We haven't adjusted.
andrew santino
Do you think that will ever catch up?
joe rogan
How could it?
It would take so long.
It's not like people are going to stop humping.
andrew santino
Yeah, I mean, chemically, I don't know what would change...
joe rogan
You would have to almost delay puberty, but then when you would fuck up people's development, like, what could you do?
Because there's a, you know, there's a window when your hormones, you're growing and your hormones are kicking in and all this stuff is kind of synced normally by nature.
If you interfere with that because you think the kids can't handle having sex, like, you're gonna delay, what are you gonna delay puberty?
Like, until they're smart enough?
Well, you're not even smart enough when you're in your 20s.
andrew santino
No, you're not smart enough.
No one's smart enough.
It never kicks in.
joe rogan
Well, that's what's wild about humans, right?
There's this clear biological imperative to procreate, and it kicks in when you have no business teaching a kid life.
To raise a child when you're 15, and the husband's 15, and you're 15, and you just gave birth to a baby, and you're a baby!
andrew santino
Yeah.
Like that 16 and Pregnant show or whatever.
It's like when it works, you're happy because you're like, the kid might turn out to have a nice life.
But when you see that goes awry, it's sad as shit.
Because a lot of times it's bound to lose, you know?
But then, sometimes you wait too long and it gets harder to have kids.
I've dealt with that.
It's wild how your body sometimes, or the body is like...
joe rogan
You missed the window.
andrew santino
Maybe you missed the window.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then they have in vitro fertilization.
andrew santino
Yeah, science fixes all that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they're developing the concept, at least, of artificial wombs.
And they think that there will be a time where they'll be able to have babies outside of a human body.
andrew santino
Just growing next to you in your house?
joe rogan
Yeah.
How far away is that?
Because I read something recently on this as a concept that they think that – but then like what is the baby getting from the mother in terms of like emotions and feeling and like babies are – Empathic, right?
They're feeling the mother's stress.
Your cortisol raises when your mother's under stress.
It's probably lessons.
You're learning things from the mother.
Just from feelings.
andrew santino
Instinctual stuff kicks in.
joe rogan
I wonder.
andrew santino
It's got to be based on diet and your lifestyle schedule and the way that you operate has to influence the way that the...
joe rogan
Can you imagine if they made babies in an artificial womb and the babies just came out soulless?
What do you do?
andrew santino
It's very stiff.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then the scientists say, well, actually, we've discovered the soul's real.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it only comes from the mother into the baby, and it comes while the baby's inside the mother.
andrew santino
That's actually a great movie.
joe rogan
They think that actually, that was like an ancient belief that the soul entered the body at a certain time.
Now, I'm thinking about it.
I think it was like six weeks.
There was like...
There was an ancient belief that there was a very specific time where the soul entered the body.
andrew santino
While you're in the womb?
joe rogan
Yeah, while the baby's in the womb.
andrew santino
So you're in there for six weeks, cooking.
At six weeks, that's when the soul shows up.
joe rogan
Is that what they think it was?
What was this ancient myth, belief, whatever?
Who knows if it's real?
andrew santino
I feel like it'd be right the moment that there's fertilization.
joe rogan
Aristotle believed it?
jamie vernon
In the time of Aristotle is actually what it says.
So I entered the embryo at 40 days for a male and 90 days for a female.
andrew santino
Beat you there, girls.
joe rogan
I wonder why I waited.
andrew santino
Why they chill?
They're fucking late.
They gotta do something.
joe rogan
What's it called?
Insolment.
And so that was just their belief.
Was it based on any thought?
jamie vernon
This is Hippocrates.
Was the first to believe this?
andrew santino
Well, he's always contradicting himself.
jamie vernon
The embryo was a product of male.
andrew santino
Hypocrisy is there.
unidentified
Why are we...
andrew santino
I wonder, why do you speculate we're 40 and they're 90?
joe rogan
Well, back then they probably didn't like girls.
andrew santino
Right, that's why.
These bitches are slow.
They don't even get their souls when we get our souls.
joe rogan
Give me the taste of the good stuff.
andrew santino
Yeah, baby.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
These bitches are slow.
joe rogan
I mean, they probably, yeah, they probably was misogyny.
andrew santino
They probably get it before we do, if anything.
jamie vernon
The artificial womb thing I found, 2019 there's an article that said they think they're 10 years away, but I dug through that real quick to find the person that was claiming that, and it turns out it's just like an artist.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
It wasn't a group of scientists saying it was like an artist that says like, we might be there.
andrew santino
Hey man, artists are scientists.
joe rogan
That would scare the shit out of me if they started making people in a lab.
Oof.
andrew santino
You don't think they're doing that already?
I feel like they've got to be manipulating...
joe rogan
I bet in another country they're doing it.
andrew santino
I think we got our hands in there, baby.
Do you think so?
I think for sure.
joe rogan
You think like in Area 51?
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
You're out there making people?
andrew santino
Well, don't you think it was so funny that for how many years...
When you were a kid, for how many years did you hear about, you know, that alien life forms at Area 51, that's all bullshit, that's not what it...
And then now they're like, no, no, no, we...
There's some alien shit over there.
joe rogan
They don't say that.
andrew santino
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
No, they don't.
andrew santino
They say there's something unidentified.
They found things that they don't know really what it is, that they've experimented on, for sure.
joe rogan
I could tell you exactly what they've said.
andrew santino
What do they say?
joe rogan
I've talked to a lot of these guys.
What the government is admitting is that they believe that there are crafts that are operating that are outside of their understanding of physics.
andrew santino
They've never said that we have anything at all?
joe rogan
There have been people that have said, and this is a quote from the Pentagon, that there was off-world vehicles not from this earth.
But who said that quote is what I was always confused about.
It was like one of the top Pentagon officials.
It's like one of those things where it's like, wait a minute, who said that?
And what is the exact quote?
b-real
How did you exactly say it?
joe rogan
How much of this is clickbait?
But I've talked to multiple pilots that have had encounters.
andrew santino
I gotta know we got something.
joe rogan
And I don't know if it's ours, if it's a drone that we don't tell them about that moves in a way that defies our understanding of physics because it doesn't operate on a propulsion engine.
It operates on something that's completely new and unique.
And there have been thoughts about how a new and unique gravity-based propulsion system would work for decades.
Astrophysicist Eric W. Davis, who spent years working as a consultant for the Pentagon UFO program and is now a defense contractor, gave a classified briefing to the Defense Department on what he called off-world vehicles not made on this Earth.
In other words, spaceships.
The bombshell, quote, came in the latest UFO report from the New York Times, which has owned the beat for the past several years.
In December 2017, the paper reported on the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, a Pentagon effort to investigate UFOs that was supposedly shuttered in 2012, but wasn't.
The article hailed as, a historical inflection point in our attitudes towards, our attitudes regarding UFOs, implied the same message that the most recent one does.
Basically, flying saucers are real.
andrew santino
Can I see a picture of Eric W. Davis?
joe rogan
Yeah, let's get a look at how much pussy Eric's got.
andrew santino
I want to see this cat.
I want to see his, I want to see how much I believe him based on his look.
joe rogan
Yes, let's just go just for his look.
andrew santino
Let's see what he looks like, just so I can see what he looks like.
joe rogan
Is that him?
andrew santino
No.
That's here in Austin.
Warp Drive Metrics.
Consulting for the Department of Defense.
That's it.
Just go back and go to images, though.
joe rogan
Is that him?
andrew santino
Jamie, click on images so we can pick one for fun, you know?
Like, so we can make a...
Oh, that's him!
Dude, that is him!
Wow.
There's your dog.
joe rogan
Off-world technology.
andrew santino
Okay, so based on that first picture in the Hawaiian shirt, do we believe it?
joe rogan
I'm a little skeptical.
andrew santino
I'm skeptical.
I don't know, dude.
That Tommy Bahama's leading me down a weird line.
joe rogan
But if you were the Pentagon, you wanted to hire a guy.
andrew santino
That's the guy.
joe rogan
That's the guy.
andrew santino
That is the guy.
joe rogan
Because you don't want any distractions.
You want a guy who's 100% invested.
So he was back then, too?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
What year is that?
Is that Jacques Vallée?
andrew santino
It's like a white power.
joe rogan
Huntsville, Alabama?
jamie vernon
Yeah, looks like it's him.
joe rogan
What is, is that Jacques Vallée with him?
jamie vernon
Hmm.
joe rogan
Interesting.
andrew santino
Wait, do you know what's crazy about what I just said about you saying that too?
joe rogan
What?
andrew santino
In that photo, I was just joking around saying, like, it looks like he's throwing up like a white power symbol, this guy, like a Nazi salute.
unidentified
Right.
andrew santino
You know what's insane?
joe rogan
What?
andrew santino
Huntsville.
unidentified
Huntsville.
andrew santino
That's where the KKK was started.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
andrew santino
Literally.
joe rogan
Is that Jacques Vallée with him?
I think he's too old in that image.
I think he's too old in that image.
andrew santino
I played that gig in Huntsville.
Joe, we took a ride from Nashville down to Huntsville.
And the driver was a really cool dude, really nice guy.
And I was playing the Huntsville, you know, whatever's down there.
I don't know what it is down there in Alabama.
But you do like a one show after Nashville.
And we're driving and he's like, he's like, you know, NASA's right here.
And I was like, Oh, really?
He's like, right there, dude.
He won't see it.
Yeah, if we have time, for sure.
Drives by, seeing the outside of it.
You know, they have fucking, like, rockets outside.
It's dope as shit.
And I was like, whoa, this is so cool.
He's like, yeah, man, a lot of fucking nerds is gonna be at your show from there, I'm sure.
And I was like, yeah, hopefully.
And he goes, yeah, yeah, it's a cool little thing that they got plopped it right down here by us.
Down that road, KKK got started.
I was like, oh, what a juxtaposition of that to that.
He's like, yeah, you know, you know, not proud of it, but that's where it is.
I was like, so right there is NASA, like the most brilliant minds on Earth.
A mile away from the most chaotically stupid people on planet.
I was like, that's so...
It's like universal comedy given to the Earth, where it's like, NASA, complete insane shitheads a mile away from each other.
Where it was birthed.
Yeah, where it was birthed.
And I asked him if it was still over there, and he's like, I don't know, but I don't know.
And I was like, okay.
So, yeah, they're there.
unidentified
Imagine if you were working on a base...
joe rogan
And they brought in some shit.
Imagine if you're one of the guys that's...
Someone's gotta move those things around.
They're not having the eggheads move them around.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
They're gonna have guys like you and me.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you and me were working on some fucking Air Force Base, top secret clearance...
andrew santino
We'd be moving the shit.
joe rogan
We know how to shut the fuck up because all our phones are bugged.
andrew santino
Right.
joe rogan
You know, like, they bug everything.
andrew santino
For sure.
joe rogan
They bug your house.
Make sure you're not talking to any shit.
You're not saying nothing.
andrew santino
Put a chip in your neck.
joe rogan
And then they wheel in this burnt-up UFO. They're like, what is this?
And they're like, shut the fuck up.
andrew santino
Nothing.
joe rogan
Get out of here.
jamie vernon
I think I'll let anybody see that shit.
joe rogan
Well, someone has to move it in.
jamie vernon
No, those guys do, but they tell your boss to get the fuck out of the building.
joe rogan
Right, but if you're one of those guys that has to move it in.
jamie vernon
Oh, those guys.
joe rogan
Somebody has to move it in.
They're not going to get the eggheads to move the thing.
jamie vernon
Oh, that's not that they're talking about the eggheads.
Like, what are they doing?
joe rogan
No, if you have an enormous fucking spaceship, and you're a guy like you and I were in maintenance in Area 51. We definitely are in maintenance, dude!
unidentified
100%.
andrew santino
I'm cranking away at something.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
And you're like, come on, brother.
You gotta help me move this fucking thing out this van.
joe rogan
We gotta move this thing.
And we get it.
It's got like a low hum to it.
andrew santino
Just putting out a cigarette next to it.
I don't know if it's gonna be near it.
joe rogan
Set it down there.
It's covered in fucking soot and dirt and shit.
And you're like, what the fuck is this?
andrew santino
It's dripping.
joe rogan
It crashed in the North Pole.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's dripping.
I don't know.
It's leaking.
Something's leaking out of it.
joe rogan
Bro.
andrew santino
Like it's oil or some shit.
unidentified
Bro.
Are you testing it?
andrew santino
Yeah, I'd taste it.
You wouldn't taste it?
unidentified
I don't know.
andrew santino
I'd taste it.
unidentified
Fuck it.
joe rogan
How much would that change your life if you saw a spaceship from another planet?
Like, for sure, from another planet.
andrew santino
The problem is, this is the never-ending, who's going to believe you?
Because then you automatically become like the, I'm dead serious.
And everybody's like, all right, dude.
joe rogan
You become that guy.
andrew santino
So you'd have to be...
No, there is no way.
It's like a never-ending, who's going to believe you?
Because even people that really love you, your wife, like someone that's like, that knows you the best would be like, babe, is everything okay?
You're like, no, I'm serious.
joe rogan
Yeah, they would start thinking you're cracking.
andrew santino
Yeah, they're like, you're losing it.
joe rogan
They would tell their friends.
andrew santino
I don't know what's been going on.
joe rogan
Interchanges medications.
He's seeing things.
Yeah.
andrew santino
That was like, I don't know why this shot into my brain, but there was a great documentary about a retirement community in Florida.
And at this point in his life, the dude decided to start experimenting with drugs because he's like, fuck it, dude, I'm old.
Yeah, he's 80. Yeah, and he was like, I don't give a shit.
And the poor wife would be like...
There's a scene where she's like...
They're both sweet from the South.
And she's like, what are you going to do?
And he opens the door and he's baked out of his mind.
He goes, don't come in here.
I'm going to be jerking off.
He closes the door on her.
And you can tell...
She looks at the...
Yeah, that's exactly what it's called.
Some kind of heaven.
That's the guy.
Brother, it's so fucking...
This is such a great, beautiful docuseries about what it's like to live in one of these retirement...
That's him.
He's punching himself, dude.
joe rogan
Oh my god, with a kung fu outfit on.
That guy looks like a party.
andrew santino
Dude, he's awesome.
joe rogan
Where is he?
andrew santino
This is all in Florida at this resort.
joe rogan
Oh, and they're all doing karate together and working out.
That looks like fun.
andrew santino
So it's a High-end resort, you pay this huge fee to get in, right?
And there's monthly fees.
You do stuff.
Everything's included, though.
But it's very promotional of active elderly.
So they're like, this isn't like a common hospice.
It's like, are you young enough to want to still go out and fuck and go drink and party?
And they all go there to party.
And this dude, he found cocaine, by the way, which is...
joe rogan
Donuts.
Yeah, dude.
andrew santino
He's driving a golf cart he's just ripped out of his head.
jamie vernon
Here's another documentary about it called Golf, Booze, and Guns Inside the Boomer Paradise.
andrew santino
It's awesome, dude.
joe rogan
That looks like fun.
That's where I'd want to go.
When we get old as fuck, dude, we should start our own.
andrew santino
100%.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
andrew santino
I would love that.
joe rogan
All old comics.
You know how much fun we would have?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
andrew santino
Yes, dude.
joe rogan
It's kind of what we're doing here.
andrew santino
Yeah, this is kind of it.
This is my retirement.
joe rogan
We've got a lot of young guys here, too, though.
andrew santino
Dude, you guys do.
joe rogan
We've got a lot coming up.
andrew santino
The scene out here is moving heavy.
joe rogan
It's wild, isn't it?
andrew santino
I'm not trying to spread rumors, but old Joey DeRosa is going to be here this week, and he told me he wants to fucking move here.
I don't know if he's gonna, but I love Joe.
joe rogan
I'll tell him I'll open up a sandwich shop with him.
andrew santino
Dude, he might jump all over that.
joe rogan
Let's go, Joe.
andrew santino
I told him, I said, are you really going?
I texted him this morning, and he's like, where are you?
I said, I'm in Austin.
He's like, I'll be there in three days.
I was like, I'm out of here.
I'm sorry, man.
And he genuinely, I think he genuinely has this interest.
I would bug him about it.
joe rogan
I don't eat sandwiches, but I would eat one of his sandwiches.
andrew santino
No, they're great.
joe rogan
If I wanted to take, like, a cheap meal and feel like shit for 12 hours?
andrew santino
That's the one.
joe rogan
His fucking sandwiches look incredible.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude, it's so good.
The problem is, it's a bar, too, so, you know, old spotty liver over here.
I have to have a couple every time I go.
joe rogan
Look at his sandwiches.
Oh, my God.
andrew santino
They're delicious.
joe rogan
What is that one?
jamie vernon
Peanut butter and jelly.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that looks incredible.
andrew santino
Yeah, with Ruffles, original.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
He's an animal.
There's no health involved in his food.
His food is all about mouth pleasure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It looks fantastic though.
His subs look insane.
andrew santino
It's...
joe rogan
What's it called again?
Joey Roses?
andrew santino
Joey Roses, yeah.
I was just there.
joe rogan
I hear nothing but great things.
andrew santino
Just over there with him.
joe rogan
I hear the huge sandwiches, too.
andrew santino
They are.
And it's a great little spot.
I think it's in the East Village.
joe rogan
I love when a comic does something off the wall like that.
andrew santino
Yeah, man.
Trying shit is nice.
It's like, give it a fuck.
Why not?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
Yeah, you know like a good buddy of mine, a comic, he's building a club.
It's a good thing.
It's gonna be good.
It's you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
You're my buddy.
joe rogan
Okay, I was confused.
I'm not building it.
I just paid people to do it.
andrew santino
That's right.
Well, yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
They're doing an amazing job.
andrew santino
I got to have a sneak peek, man.
It looks good.
unidentified
Yeah, we're close.
andrew santino
I'm excited.
I told you, though, without giving anything away about it, but like...
joe rogan
That kill room, that little room.
Oh, my God.
That's what Bobby Kelly calls a kill box.
andrew santino
That's a kill box.
joe rogan
You know, like his special called Kill Box?
Because that's how he designed the room.
andrew santino
I walked in.
I knew right away.
I was like, this will be the thing.
You can feel...
It's something about certain rooms...
Somebody asked me one time on a show, on a podcast about, a guy who wasn't a comic was like, what makes a good room?
And I go, honestly, I can name you physical elements, but sometimes, I don't know, some things are a feeling where you're like, wow, something hits.
I don't know what it is.
I can tell you why we like low ceilings and why we like the way it's situated, but there's just rooms around the country.
You know that when you go in, you're like, wow, I fucking love.
joe rogan
There's also old buildings.
andrew santino
Well, yeah, the history does something to make it feel...
joe rogan
There's something about old buildings, yeah.
andrew santino
Like when you and I came back here before, when I was running around with you and we played the old Cap City...
I remember you being like, oh man, I fucking love the vibration of this room.
And it was something about, I don't know, I couldn't tell you.
joe rogan
Been around for decades.
andrew santino
Just has a, there's something in the guts of it.
joe rogan
You know, I tried to buy that place.
andrew santino
The old Cap City?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew santino
You did?
joe rogan
Yeah, they wanted too much money for it.
It was like the whole mall.
It was like, there was a lot of work involved and it was not in town.
The whole situation was not ideal.
And so I decided not to go with that, and then I went with another one, another place that turned out to be a former cult owned it.
andrew santino
Oh yeah, that's right!
joe rogan
Yes, and I didn't know, like, the extent of the cult.
I had heard it was a cult.
andrew santino
What kind of cult?
joe rogan
What did they do?
And then I watched a documentary called Holy Hell.
It's on Amazon.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The guy who ran the cult fucked everybody, including the guys.
He would charge the guys for therapy, charge them 50 bucks for therapy, and then he would fuck them.
Fucked everybody.
andrew santino
It's a part of therapy.
joe rogan
And this guy was like a low-rent actor.
He was in Rosemary's Baby for a very small scene as an extra.
andrew santino
Oh, okay.
Not one of the characters?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, he's like one scene with Mia Farrow.
andrew santino
Right.
joe rogan
And this guy went on to start this fucking cult in West Hollywood.
And then, I don't know, people were chasing him down or whatever, but he upended and took everybody to Austin and had them build this theater for him to dance in.
andrew santino
Just to dance?
joe rogan
Just to dance.
andrew santino
With other people?
joe rogan
Well, he would dance and perform for like all of his flock.
andrew santino
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then he up and took off and went to Hawaii.
andrew santino
This guy lives a pretty fun life though.
joe rogan
One of the guys confronted him in Hawaii.
andrew santino
That's him.
joe rogan
Holy hell.
That's the trailer.
That's the guy.
The guy had a bunch of plastic surgery and shit.
It was really weird fucking scene.
And that was that place.
I'm like, oh my god.
So I got out of that place.
I was like, oh no!
andrew santino
So we threw that place away.
joe rogan
Well, there was another issue that came about with that place before we found the place we're at now.
andrew santino
But the new joint is great.
joe rogan
The new joint is going to be hopping.
andrew santino
It is going to be great.
joe rogan
It's going to be hopping.
andrew santino
It's great to be...
I appreciate you for...
It's funny to be a part of those things because I know...
You know, in X amount of years, it'll be cool to...
It'll just be neat to look back and be like, dude, that's fucking wild.
I remember when you were...
I like being able to say that when we're having a whiskey in 10 years, being like, I remember when that was coming together, man.
That's wild what it is now.
It's just cool to see something kind of coming together.
joe rogan
It's uncomfortable to start things.
It's exciting, but it's also uncomfortable.
andrew santino
It's weird.
We talked about last night.
I was doing all new material.
It's so hard starting again or starting anew or fishing for the...
joe rogan
Doing something different, but it's really good for the mind.
It's good for you as a person.
It's good.
You need different kinds of experiences, and starting something from scratch is a different kind of experience.
That's one of the things about moving.
Moving to Austin was a different kind of experience.
I'm in a different place now.
It's a totally different setup.
I like it.
I like doing things like that.
They upend you and they make you sort of recalibrate.
You have your bumps.
Maybe this is the wrong move.
Maybe this is the right move.
Who knows?
But then you find your way.
But there's something about starting something new and difficult that's very exciting for people.
andrew santino
That's why I'm going to New York in May for that reason.
joe rogan
You moving to New York?
andrew santino
I don't say moving.
joe rogan
You gonna get a spot?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where at?
What part?
andrew santino
Downtown.
I just like the rhythm of New York a lot.
I have a lot of good friends there.
And something hit me recently where I was like, I have the, I'm blessed enough, whatever you want to say, I'm privileged enough that I can do it.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew santino
So I want to do it.
And I'm working on this thing out there.
joe rogan
Did you talk to Ari?
andrew santino
Yeah, of course, you know him.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's the fucking main recruiter for New York.
andrew santino
He's the cult leader of getting people there.
He's like, you must come to New York.
joe rogan
He loves it.
andrew santino
He was excited.
He was excited.
joe rogan
He loves being a part of that fucking hum.
All those people.
andrew santino
It's just, I do love it.
I want something different.
West Hollywood was a long period of my life.
Now I live somewhere else in LA. And then I just was like, what if I jump out of LA for a while?
joe rogan
Good for you.
andrew santino
It's good for you.
Shake it the fuck up.
joe rogan
Shake it the fuck up.
It's good for you.
So many road gigs are on there, too.
If you're on the East Coast, you can go all over Connecticut and do road gigs.
andrew santino
Jersey, Philly, Boston.
joe rogan
Yeah, everywhere.
Everywhere.
A few hours drive and you're everywhere.
andrew santino
L.A. is like San Diego, San Francisco.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the amount of time it takes you to San Diego, you really have to leave at noon.
Because the traffic you hit in Orange County is fucking preposterous.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's gross.
joe rogan
It'll take five hours sometimes.
Easy.
andrew santino
That's why I need that jetpack, dude.
That's why...
And just zoop down there.
joe rogan
Burr was doing gigs in San Diego, and he's taking his helicopter.
andrew santino
Dude, insane.
That's so fucking cool, by the way.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
He's flying himself to San Diego with a helicopter.
andrew santino
Yeah, I'll come down.
Yeah, I'll do the gig.
You gotta have a fucking pad for me to land on?
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta find a pad.
andrew santino
I saw a video this morning on the internet of how, it was like, it was in the Hamptons or something maybe?
And it was like, how rich people fuck with other rich people.
And it was a dude, and he's yelling at the helicopter, and the guy's in a helicopter, and he's like near his pool.
I mean, dude, he's gotta be 20 feet above, no shit, above his pool, and the wind is blowing all his yard shit, all his pool, like, chairs and shit, all over the place, and the guy's pissed.
And then you can tell that they're laughing about it, and then they fuck off in the helicopter.
joe rogan
So he's doing it just to fuck with the guy?
andrew santino
Just to fuck with this guy.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
andrew santino
Yeah, it was badass.
unidentified
What a douchebag.
andrew santino
It was so funny, dude.
It was like, this is how the richest have nothing to doers, this is exactly how they fuck with each other.
joe rogan
Is that legal?
andrew santino
No fucking no way.
joe rogan
How close are you allowed to be to a person's house with a helicopter?
andrew santino
I can't imagine you're allowed to be anywhere near private property.
joe rogan
You can kind of fly around in those things.
It was very bizarre.
andrew santino
But what's the restricted space?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
But when I went out with Burr, we were flying around.
You just go where you want to go.
We flew over downtown LA. We flew over these buildings.
You're amazing how many buildings have X's on the top where they have a landing pad on the top.
andrew santino
Now, there's air traffic, obviously, he's in communication with.
Can you land on one of those?
joe rogan
It's a very good question.
I don't think so.
I think it's private property.
andrew santino
Sure.
joe rogan
But I think that I don't know if you have to tell everybody where you're going.
If you're on a plane, you have a direct flight path, Bill's kind of moving around, doing whatever he wants to do.
And they're like, let's go over here.
Okay, we're going over here.
Let's go over to that thing.
And then the guy who he's with is his co-pilot, who's his instructor.
They're talking about where to go.
I'll set it down here, and then you're going to lift it up.
So he sets it down on this hill.
andrew santino
It's such a comedian's machine of flight, though, because it's like, I'll just, wherever, man, we'll figure it out as we go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
Like, it's just like you're improv-ing the whole time in the air.
You're like, I guess we'll go over the fucking buildings?
We'll go over there?
I did that once in a single-engine Cessna.
joe rogan
Ooh.
andrew santino
Yeah, when I was in college, man, I was so dumb.
My buddy Mark was a pilot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
He used to take us up all the time.
And honestly, I don't regret it, but looking back, I'm lucky I'm alive.
We would just go.
We flew to San Diego.
We flew all over Denver.
He was like, you want to see the stadium?
I was like, fuck yeah, dude!
Stone flying over the stadium.
He was sober.
He was sober.
But I was like, it's funny that if you're in training, you can just take one of these fucking things up.
You can take one.
unidentified
Just fly around?
andrew santino
Yeah, you can take one.
Yeah, you have to register a flight plan and then, you know, he pays for miles while he's getting his permits and you pay for gas and all that stuff.
Yeah, dude, we just took it.
We would take it to play.
We landed in Long Beach one time, at Long Beach's little regional airport.
Yeah, dude, it was very stupid.
joe rogan
When I used to hang out with Phil Hartman, he had his own plane.
He had one of those kind of planes.
andrew santino
Like a little Cessna?
joe rogan
He took me up in his plane.
He was so disciplined in his aviation work.
He had in between takes, he would go over his flight book.
He was reading all this because he had to take his flight examination.
So he started doing it when we first started NewsRadio.
But two years later, he's got a plane, he's flying around.
And so I went up with them once in this little single engine plane.
It's showing me, like, all these areas in the valley and all the different places to live.
andrew santino
It's sketchy, but it's cool.
joe rogan
It's sketchy, but it's pretty badass.
The freedom that you get just alone up there floating around is pretty amazing.
jamie vernon
Have you seen these guys that go up in paramotors?
unidentified
Fuck.
andrew santino
Oh, yeah, the paramotors are so badass.
joe rogan
That's so insane.
jamie vernon
Just fucking floating at 6,000 feet.
joe rogan
That's so insane.
Look at that guy.
andrew santino
By the way, this is another thing where you're like, you just go wherever the fuck you want to go.
joe rogan
Now, how do you stop from getting hit by a plane?
andrew santino
Well, you're only 5,000 or 6,000 feet up.
joe rogan
How many in-air collisions take place?
You know?
jamie vernon
They used to happen more often, I think, but they definitely still happen.
joe rogan
They happen at those air shows.
unidentified
Did you see the one recently, the air show in Dallas?
andrew santino
It shook my core.
joe rogan
They're flying those old-ass planes, too.
andrew santino
It just banked so strange.
The way that other plane just banked, you were like, oh, God.
You knew almost right away.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's fucking horrible.
andrew santino
But it happens.
I feel like this happens so much that you're like, Why are we still doing these air shows?
Doesn't this, every year you're like, you hear what happened at the air show, and you're like, yeah, the fucking 15 kids' heads got cut off because they came too low.
I feel like every year something wild happens.
Unless you're a blue angel, you know what I mean?
Why are we still doing local fucking, local air shows?
They always, how many air show accidents happen?
jamie vernon
A lot.
andrew santino
All the time.
I feel like every year someone's like, ooh, yeah, that was fucked up what happened at that one.
joe rogan
Even like those Thunderbird guys, they crash sometimes.
andrew santino
I think they have accidents, but I don't know if they crash-crash, but I do think they'll have accidents in the air, but those guys are like...
joe rogan
Cream of the crop.
andrew santino
Oh, tip-top.
joe rogan
Mark Smith, who's one of the UFC referees, was a Thunderbird pilot.
unidentified
Was he?
joe rogan
Yeah, I had him on the podcast.
It's amazing.
You watch the videos of those guys flying around.
andrew santino
Insane.
joe rogan
They're like right next to each other's wings.
andrew santino
I know.
It fucks me up when I see it.
You're always like, I would...
joe rogan
All you have to do is dink!
andrew santino
If it was you and me, you know I'd be fucking around.
You're like, don't fuck around, dude.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Do you imagine someone accidentally fucks around?
You both die?
andrew santino
Tip a wing.
Wasn't that in Top Gun, right?
jamie vernon
It was a bad accident in 1982. The Thunderbirds?
Yeah, all four died.
andrew santino
All four died?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
It says that was the last crash also.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
Because they do those...
Those exhibitions all the time.
andrew santino
They're badass, dude.
joe rogan
It's, I mean, just the, I mean, that kind of flying.
jamie vernon
So cool.
joe rogan
Imagine the kind of power and maneuverability that a fighter jet has.
andrew santino
To handle the G's, too, on those turns, flipping like that constantly, I'm immediately throwing up.
joe rogan
I went up at the Blue Angels once.
andrew santino
Did you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You had to drive all the way down to San Diego, and then you had to drive deep into the desert.
It was pretty far in.
And they take you up in an F-A-18, I think it was.
It was wild.
And you're not using a G-suit.
You're doing something called hooking.
Where you hold on to the handle, and as you hit heavier Gs, you have to go like this.
You're literally forcing blood into your head.
andrew santino
Right.
joe rogan
And you're feeling your consciousness closing in like an elevator door with the Gs.
We got to six and a half Gs before I couldn't take it anymore.
andrew santino
Six is a lot.
joe rogan
It was a lot.
andrew santino
That's a lot.
joe rogan
But those guys can do like nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
andrew santino
Well, sometimes I actually like getting stoned and watching those G-Force training videos just because the faces they make are funny.
Yeah, dude, it's...
Yeah.
At some point...
Oh, what's that?
It's like that, um...
Oh, JV. Grousing?
Grousing?
There's a sport in Britain where people try to make the most fucked up face.
There's like an award for it.
I swear to God.
unidentified
I don't know what it's called, dude, but...
andrew santino
There is a it's like this is old British shit like you know that like the cheese hill You know they've rolled that cheese down the hill they chase it.
It's kind of like that where it's been around for like 300 fucking years.
Yeah, like we're still doing it But it's like who can make the most insanely grotesque Absurd face and they put a horse cop.
Yeah this what is it called gurning gurning gurning brother And it's how long can you hold it like that guy has a nail through his lip.
Oh, yeah Some of the greatest Gurning videos.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Gurning.
andrew santino
Like this guy.
joe rogan
They should combine that with darts.
andrew santino
But this is what the G-force looks like whenever I see it.
joe rogan
So this is the Gurning champion?
unidentified
This is what you did when you didn't have movies and TV. This is the Gurning god, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at these people.
There's a contest with the most fucked up face you can make.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's great.
jamie vernon
This is an announcer or something.
andrew santino
This is a big thing.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at this guy.
andrew santino
How ugly can you be?
joe rogan
This is their competition?
andrew santino
The Brits, they're weird as fuck.
joe rogan
When did you hear about this?
andrew santino
I don't know.
Somebody sent something to me recently.
jamie vernon
World professional gurning.
andrew santino
She's a comic.
That's Gina Gashier.
I can't say her last name.
She's a comedian.
joe rogan
And she's practicing with them?
andrew santino
Yeah, she's doing probably a travel show or some shit.
joe rogan
World ladies gurning champion.
andrew santino
No thanks.
So tell me about your new wife.
joe rogan
I met her gurning.
andrew santino
We were gurning together.
Someone who doesn't know is like, oh, is that like an extreme sport?
It's like, yeah.
Look, you know, it's her passion, so I don't want to pull her away from it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what people did before there were books.
andrew santino
When you stared at other humans and you were like, that guy's ugly as fuck, we should make him do a thing to make us laugh because we're bored.
joe rogan
How do you get attention in the neighborhood?
andrew santino
Yeah.
It's the same thing as like gesturing.
I imagine how that started was like an ugly weird dude did a thing and everyone laughed at him and someone higher up was like, you know who would like this?
joe rogan
The king.
andrew santino
The fucking king.
joe rogan
How many times did the king murder the jester?
andrew santino
Every time.
That had to have been part of the bit.
joe rogan
Let's Google that.
How many jesters were murdered by king?
andrew santino
Slain jesters.
joe rogan
It has to be like a very high number.
andrew santino
For sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
At some point, they're done laughing.
joe rogan
Yeah, shut the fuck up.
andrew santino
Kill that fucking guy.
joe rogan
Guy's like trying too hard?
And you're drunk?
andrew santino
It's like my favorite...
I think I've talked about it on this show, but...
Stan Machaco?
I don't know how to pronounce his last name.
His most famous painting is called The Jester.
And it's one of my fucking favorites.
And Stan...
Stan Machaco?
I think it is.
But this, to me...
If I could buy the original, if I had enough money, I would buy it because it shows how comics feel sometimes when you're done.
You know, sometimes when you're done off a stage and you're fucking burnt, you're like, dude, I've been giving so much.
I'm tired.
I did two shows tonight.
You just kind of have that moment of just decompression.
You're not thinking.
After we would do shows together sometimes, you and I would sit in silence in the green room and just not say anything.
joe rogan
Just catch your breath.
andrew santino
Just catch your breath and chill out.
That's that Stan Matejko painting.
Look up The Jester.
I think it's called The Jester.
joe rogan
Do you have any date on how many jesters were murdered?
jamie vernon
I haven't found anything yet.
andrew santino
Most of them weren't murdered.
joe rogan
Most of them weren't murdered?
jamie vernon
One of them, the most famous one, I'm reading the story about how and why he was killed.
joe rogan
How was he killed?
andrew santino
Yeah, what did they do?
jamie vernon
He pushed his luck, it seems like.
He asked the question to the king about, what if someone tried to kill me?
And he's like, don't worry about that.
If someone tries to kill you, they'd be killed.
The noble would be beheaded in not more than 15 minutes.
He responded, why not 15 minutes before?
joe rogan
His reply made sense, but it was not received well.
andrew santino
Yeah, bombed.
joe rogan
At a later date, he pushed his luck once more by physically humiliating the king.
After telling some joke, the jester slapped Francis I's royal behind amid roars of laughter from all the court's nobles.
The monarch threatened to have him hang for this unless he'd come up with an apology even more offensive than that act.
I'm so sorry, your majesty, but I didn't recognize you.
I mistook you for the queen.
andrew santino
Oh, two times.
joe rogan
His wit really was the stuff of legends, but as you may recall, the only people fully off limits from a court Chester's mockery were the queen and her ladies-in-waiting.
andrew santino
Don't be talking about my bitches.
joe rogan
The king decided to kill him despite the deal they made, but given that Tribule was physically disabled and probably had magical powers...
Francis one decided that it would be fair to at least let him choose his way of dying.
He did not want to annoy Tribule too much while killing him.
So the jester chose.
He told the king, good sire for Saint...
How do you say that?
andrew santino
Nichous.
joe rogan
Nichous is in St. Penard's sake, patrons of insanity.
I choose to die from old age.
andrew santino
Oh.
joe rogan
The joke completely broke through the king's anger and Tribule was again allowed to live.
He ended up only being exiled from the realm.
andrew santino
They just kicked him out.
jamie vernon
I'm sure they were, but no number, and I didn't get anything yet.
joe rogan
That also sounds like a lot of anecdotal horseshit.
andrew santino
I believe almost none of that, but I like all of it.
joe rogan
I liked it too.
I'd like to believe there was a dude that was that funny.
Got his way out of getting killed.
andrew santino
You gotta know.
joe rogan
Slapped the king's ass, made fun of the wife, and still lived.
andrew santino
That's Stan Matejko.
That's my favorite.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew santino
That's good.
So why this is also so powerful to me, truly, is if you can see on the right there behind him, in a more clear version of this, the party is still happening.
joe rogan
Oh.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
andrew santino
And it's just kind of like, this is truly how I feel, where you're like, we just did the gig.
Deep impressed.
Yeah, you just need to just be quiet by yourself.
joe rogan
Does he have notes?
andrew santino
Yes, that's all his, yeah, that's all of his performance notes.
Wow.
joe rogan
1862. I never thought of jesters as having notes.
andrew santino
Well, I meant, they had to prep for shit.
joe rogan
They must have.
andrew santino
So that's, Stancic, yeah, Jan Matejko.
I don't know how to pronounce it, I'm stupid, but.
joe rogan
Can you mention, like, how do you apprentice?
andrew santino
For a jester.
joe rogan
Yeah, and do you work at someone's house for a little while before they move you up to a court?
andrew santino
I'm sure he's like, hey man, you gotta take my notes for my bits.
And he'll probably run bits, you know?
joe rogan
Like those old Catskill comics who just tell old jokes.
andrew santino
Right, right, right.
unidentified
You know?
andrew santino
Yeah, and they have somebody who's like, mark down...
Sometimes when I put my eyes out and I grab my dick, they laugh.
So I put that down as a bit of the thing.
And you know there's a young kid who's like, oh, grab the dick and then cross eye on the right side.
That had to have been what these guys did because they had to pick people in the...
You know these guys are the original crowd work kings.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew santino
They were...
This was crowd work at its finest.
They'd pick people out at the parties.
They'd go back.
They'd write some notes about, you know, something they could lay in.
Because that was interesting.
I feel like I've heard that before.
They said, you can't say anything about the queen.
You can say anything about anybody else.
The queen and any of her crew, you're not allowed to say shit about.
But everyone else is like, oh, fuck them all.
Fuck everybody.
Like, the king would be like, you can, the most powerful man, fuck him.
jamie vernon
So, kill the messenger, from what I'm reading, comes from jesters being killed in battlefields because they were, the masters made them carry the messages to the other leaders.
unidentified
Great.
jamie vernon
And sometimes they made them kill.
joe rogan
Jesters were often required to go to battlefield with their masters to carry messages from I think?
And some used a catapult or a trebuchet to hurl the unfortunate messenger or his severed head back into his own camp as a graphic illustration of what they thought of the message.
andrew santino
Dude, can you imagine?
A trebuchet, fucking a huge human catapult, but just you're chilling with your boys and your old boy's head comes...
joe rogan
Yeah, I told them to go tell him to go fuck themselves.
andrew santino
No, I see.
He said, go fuck themselves.
I guess they fucked him.
unidentified
I said, give me all you women and all your gold and we're good.
joe rogan
Then a fucking head comes flying to the windshield.
andrew santino
Sometimes that cruel and unusual punishment shit that they would do from years ago, some of it was grossly funny.
It's still gross, but that's hilarious to be like, cut his head off, throw it back at those guys.
And they would just load it up in a catapult.
Fucking huck it at your friends.
joe rogan
The psychological aspect of a fucking head flying over the wall of the castle.
andrew santino
It's a deep cut.
You think anybody laughed?
You think of the crew, you think one guy was like...
joe rogan
They're probably used to it.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're probably used to people getting their heads chopped off.
I mean, back then, people fought with swords.
andrew santino
People died every day that someone you knew someone was dying.
joe rogan
And probably in the streets, people are getting stabbed left and right.
Because, like, life and death was probably so cheap.
andrew santino
It was a common place where you're like, yeah, he died.
Big deal.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got cut up.
andrew santino
It happens.
joe rogan
Yeah, they sliced his arms off.
andrew santino
What are you going to do?
joe rogan
The Mongols would light people on fire and then use their bodies to light buildings on fire with catapults.
andrew santino
I thought you were going to say for warmth.
Did they ever light people on fire just to warm up?
joe rogan
Sure they did.
They probably did whatever they wanted to.
andrew santino
They're like, man, don't freeze them.
Burn Nick.
joe rogan
If you could imagine horrific ways that people died, one of the things they did, the way they would kill royals is they wouldn't kill them like they would kill regular people.
So they would put them sometimes, they would stack them and then put boards over the top of them and then eat dinner on top of them and crush them to death.
unidentified
Shut up!
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
They used you as a table?
You were a little side table?
joe rogan
You were the thing under the table.
andrew santino
That's awful.
joe rogan
They built like a whole structure over you.
And then everybody would, like, lay the tables out and all the food out, and then all the people would walk onto it, and then they'd just crush you.
andrew santino
The visual is funny.
I know it's terrible, but it's just funny.
joe rogan
It's fucking dark, man.
andrew santino
It's fucking dark, dude.
joe rogan
That's not that long ago that people did that to people.
andrew santino
No.
joe rogan
It's not that long ago.
andrew santino
No.
But the reasoning has changed so heavily.
It's funny.
You know how technology, they say it jumps like, you know, it's the fastest moving thing we have.
It's technology continually just, like, over-leaping itself.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
Think about giving us a little bit of credit as a society, as people, that we're pretty good to a degree at times changing our ways of like, we can't do that shit anymore.
joe rogan
For the most part.
andrew santino
Yeah, we're trying, but I think it's kind of...
joe rogan
It's definitely a lot better.
andrew santino
Well, it's only going to get better.
This is wild that you think...
Not that long ago that shit would happen, but you're like, it is nice we don't do that anymore.
joe rogan
But now we kill people with drones.
unidentified
Yeah, from afar.
joe rogan
Like if you're in a wedding party in Yemen and you hear...
You hear something headed your way.
You're like, what?
Boom!
andrew santino
It's a gift from someone.
Yeah.
No, yeah, we're more...
joe rogan
The drone thing's wild.
andrew santino
We're getting further away from...
We don't want to see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't want to eat lunch on your compressing body.
andrew santino
No, but we want to pay someone far away to do it to you.
joe rogan
But we want to launch a rocket out of our flying robot.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
It's terrible, but, you know...
We're not pulling on your...
The fucking...
The Chinese torture tactics were wild, though.
You read about those things.
Like, they were endless.
joe rogan
What did they do?
andrew santino
Like, well, I mean, water torture might be, like, the one that most people know.
That might be, like, the...
I think that's probably, like, the...
Easiest one.
Do you know what I mean?
I mean, they took tactics from...
Like, even stuff like Four Horsemen type of shit, pulling you in all separate directions.
I mean, people would watch you get pulled...
joe rogan
Apart.
andrew santino
Apart.
And stand there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
Yeah.
Like, no big deal.
joe rogan
What's this one?
jamie vernon
These are torture methods.
joe rogan
Forced abidance in a painful position.
So your head would be in a cage, and then your foot would be on a stool.
andrew santino
I mean, that's nuts.
jamie vernon
They make you stay outside and freezing cold overnight.
andrew santino
Yeah, so inside's fine, outside it's like negative 12. And your head is stuck in the cage, and if you wobble enough, the stool falls, you fall asleep, you die.
You choke yourself out.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
That's just that kind.
There's hanging, electroshocking, force-feeding, burning, scalding.
andrew santino
Yeah, look at that one.
Pouring hot water on you all day long.
All day.
Just burning water, intermittently burning with water.
joe rogan
What is that?
Go up a little bit, burning hot iron bars?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I was trying to see.
joe rogan
Some victims were tortured with burning hot iron bars.
Due to the bad hygienic standards in Chinese prison, this leads to the wounds becoming infected.
andrew santino
And they were good at it, dude.
The Chinese were good at fucking with you.
Isolation.
That shit's crazy.
Halfway underwater.
jamie vernon
Water dungeon?
andrew santino
Yeah, water dungeons.
Yeah.
Shit's nuts.
Dude, it's nuts!
By the way, the bottom one is just tough for people like me.
Prohibition of eye contact and speaking.
They're like, just don't let that idiot talk to you.
He'll kill himself at some point.
joe rogan
Stab and cut wounds.
unidentified
Ugh.
andrew santino
Ling Chi.
You know Ling Chi.
You know what that is, right?
joe rogan
No.
andrew santino
Death of a Thousand Cuts.
They slowly cut you.
Minuscule cuts.
Thousands and thousands of times.
joe rogan
Red pepper is blown into the victim's eyes or nose.
jamie vernon
Make you not go to the bathroom.
unidentified
Oh.
andrew santino
Bring up Ling Chi so I make sure I'm not saying the wrong thing.
But I think that's the one.
Your skin begins to just fold off itself.
Yeah, Ling Chi.
Ling Chi.
joe rogan
Oh.
andrew santino
Slow slicing.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
andrew santino
That shit's insane.
joe rogan
Most terrifying punishment in history.
Cut-by-cut torture methadone as Ling Chi may have been used for hundreds of years.
Oh my god.
andrew santino
Yeah, the Tang Dynasty started that shit, baby.
So they tie you up.
unidentified
Human beings are capable of some horrific shit, man.
andrew santino
Wretched.
And they got a kick out of this shit.
This is them being like, I know what we want to do with this guy.
Not kill him.
Not just shoot him and get it over with.
I mean, it's just wild to me.
To want to see it.
Just sit and watch some guy just slowly skin falls off his bones.
jamie vernon
This does say that many of the accounts of Lynchy have been mythologized.
andrew santino
Oh, really?
jamie vernon
To fit a sensationalized Western narrative.
andrew santino
Savage practicing.
All right, so maybe it's...
What they're saying, it's...
jamie vernon
One case provided photographic evidence.
andrew santino
Okay, well, isn't one enough?
jamie vernon
I think so.
andrew santino
How many do you fucking need?
unidentified
Right there.
andrew santino
That is insane.
jamie vernon
That is not good.
andrew santino
No, what?
joe rogan
Oh, my God, look at the dude's ribs.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'm not showing that on the screen.
andrew santino
No, fuck that.
jamie vernon
Don't show that.
joe rogan
Don't show that.
And that guy's still alive.
He was said to meditate daily upon the image below in particular and never stop being obsessed by this image of pain, at the same time ecstatic and intolerable.
Oh my god, look how horrible that is.
andrew santino
Dude, have you seen, have you seen, this made me think, have you seen that family in like Puerto Rico, they like, exhumed their grandmother and walked her around town?
joe rogan
What?
andrew santino
It just was on the news.
I don't know if it was Puerto Rico.
They exhumed their grandmother.
joe rogan
And weakened her, sorry?
andrew santino
They did, bro.
They puppeted her around town.
And people in the streets, it translated, they said they were heard saying, let the dead rest, put her back, put her back.
But apparently, like, they have the legal right to exhume family bodies.
Something in the article was saying how, like...
joe rogan
How late after she died.
andrew santino
I mean...
jamie vernon
Oh, hold on.
andrew santino
What is it?
jamie vernon
Not true.
joe rogan
Not true.
andrew santino
That's not true?
jamie vernon
Well, according to Snopes, this is...
I mean, tell me, is this the thing you saw?
andrew santino
No.
That's not it.
Nope.
jamie vernon
Well, then...
andrew santino
No, no, no.
I don't know what...
It's a Spanish-speaking country, and I'm foolish to not know what it was, but they exhumed their grandmother...
joe rogan
Walked her around town?
andrew santino
Walked her around town.
Yeah, there was a video in the...
New York Post put it up of them, like, speaking to her.
Do New York Post exhumes grandmother.
jamie vernon
Is it that?
andrew santino
Where?
Yes, right there.
That's it.
jamie vernon
What the fuck?
andrew santino
Yeah, this is real.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Drop dead gorgeous.
New York Post hilarious.
Grandmother buried for 10 years.
Still has a full head of hair and enough bones to stand up with little support.
Buried for 10 years.
The DR. So they pulled her out, out of being in the ground for 10 years.
jamie vernon
She was 86 when she died.
andrew santino
86 in 2012. Pull that up.
joe rogan
Go full screen with that?
andrew santino
That's insane.
Look at that.
They're like making sure her dress is on.
People they say in the video are heard saying like, let the dead rest, put her back.
This is, you know, what do you do?
joe rogan
This is so insane.
andrew santino
He's smiling.
joe rogan
That is so insane.
andrew santino
He's rocking it.
joe rogan
So this lady's like putting her dress on.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Grandma, you look lovely.
andrew santino
Keep her decent.
He's wearing a Toronto Blue Jays hat though.
Shout out Blue Jays.
unidentified
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
They thought that was a good idea.
andrew santino
But if I'm not mistaken, in the article it says that they say this is not illegal to exhume your own blood.
joe rogan
Go to the picture of it, Jamie, right below it.
andrew santino
Isn't that nuts, dude?
joe rogan
Bro, that's like right out of The Walking Dead.
Like, if you saw that, you would assume that that's not real.
andrew santino
The family was in complete shock.
They were shocked that she stayed together so long.
joe rogan
Still had skin covering parts of the bones.
andrew santino
So they wanted to move her to another cemetery.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
andrew santino
Dominican Republic, dude.
joe rogan
Look at the one down below.
Look at that photo.
That's what she looked like when they pulled her out before they put the dress on her.
Oh my God, that's so creepy.
andrew santino
So creepy, dude.
That's her alive.
That's how you should remember her.
joe rogan
Go back up again to that picture.
What the fuck, dude?
andrew santino
Also, 10 years, still full head of hair.
Shocking, though.
I was blown away.
I'm like, full head of hair, 10 years?
joe rogan
What would you think the hair would just rot out of the head with the skin?
unidentified
For sure.
andrew santino
That's what I thought.
joe rogan
It looks like she's mummified.
andrew santino
Well, maybe they did put her in something.
Put her in a movie.
joe rogan
Well, then there's the embalming, right?
Like, what does that do?
That stops you from deteriorating the same way, right?
andrew santino
Formaldehyde?
joe rogan
Did she get embalmed?
Is that why she's like that?
Or is that like a mummification process?
andrew santino
That looks more mummified.
Because isn't embalming...
Doesn't that like really, that preserves the shit out of you, right?
joe rogan
Well, I know from that HBO autopsy show they would go and dig up and bomb bodies and find out there was like arsenic in them and things that the people had done to poison the people and kill people.
andrew santino
Oh my, like after the fact, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, they'd like, they'd solve some murders.
andrew santino
I knew a guy that was doing a documentary about body brokerage.
Where, you know your body parts could be sold...
joe rogan
Monster?
andrew santino
No, I'm good, baby.
Your body parts could be sold...
Post-mortem?
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you can make a deal while you're alive?
andrew santino
I don't know.
I don't know the specifics.
It was like after they were dead, like they would sell grandma and he said the high percentage of these, the high percentages of what was going on, you know, in this marketplace was for reassignment surgery.
So it was like, you know, it was either like skin for new dicks or skin for vaginal reconstructive surgery and shit.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew santino
Yeah, at the time.
Yeah, when he was doing it.
joe rogan
When was this?
andrew santino
Seven or eight years ago.
joe rogan
The body trade.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's a real thing.
joe rogan
Well, I have heard about it being a real thing in terms of organ donors.
andrew santino
Yeah, body brokers.
I think that was the name of his old...
joe rogan
Body parts from American donors have been exported to at least 45 countries and thousands of parts sent abroad annually.
Demand is high in nations where customs limit selling or dissecting their own debt.
In the U.S., though, almost anything goes.
andrew santino
Yeah, it was like...
unidentified
Bro.
andrew santino
Yeah, so I ran into him in...
I'm looking it up because I'm so stupid.
I ran into him in an airport a long time ago.
It was a guy named Julian Knitsberg.
I was looking to see if I could find the name of it.
joe rogan
Still rocking No Case, huh?
andrew santino
No Case.
Never No Case, dude.
We've talked about this every time I come in.
Never No Case.
Fuck cases.
Don't do it.
Get the AppleCare and just break your phone.
Fuck it.
joe rogan
Amazing.
andrew santino
You're gonna die one day.
joe rogan
Who gives a shit?
You're still No Case, too?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
Fuck that.
andrew santino
Fuck cases.
joe rogan
Rare No Case people.
andrew santino
What are you gonna do, man?
This guy, Julian Knitsberg, though, I ran into him in an airport.
He did a documentary that you'd love called Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia.
joe rogan
I know that documentary very well.
unidentified
That's him.
andrew santino
He did that.
Julian, I met him years ago through dick house guys.
joe rogan
My name is Bobby Sue.
unidentified
I always thought of me as a sexy one of the family.
andrew santino
I shot my dad.
The kid shot his dad in the fucking face and he lived.
His dad came to his house and he shot him, fucking lived.
But that guy, Julian, he was doing a body broker thing and he was like, it's fascinating to where you can find out where your grandma's arm is going to be someone's cock one day.
And I was like, is this all real?
He's like, you'll see when I'm done with the thing.
I don't know if he's still working on it.
joe rogan
Your grandma's arm is going to be someone's cock.
andrew santino
Yeah, kind of wild.
joe rogan
Can they get to the point where they make a cock that feels like a cock to you?
andrew santino
I mean, I felt a lot of cocks in my day.
joe rogan
So if someone was jerking off your arm, even though you feel your arm...
andrew santino
This kind of feels like a dick.
It's a hairy dick.
joe rogan
Right, but it's not that big a deal.
Someone jerks off your arm.
It doesn't do anything for you.
You can stop.
andrew santino
Yeah, cut it out.
joe rogan
You know?
andrew santino
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, imagine if they could...
Make a dick that feels the way a dick feels.
Not just looks like...
I've seen the ones where they do trans men and they get like a big chunk of their leg removed so there's an enormous scar on their leg.
andrew santino
For dick?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And then they get a monster hog.
andrew santino
Why can't you take old dead dick skin and make it new dick skin?
Is that not possible?
joe rogan
From a dead person?
andrew santino
Yeah, why is that not?
jamie vernon
Body Brokers?
andrew santino
That's a scripted film, though.
jamie vernon
It is, but it's about a similar thing where, like, a rehab found out that it was really a fraud cover-up for a multi-billion dollar company that takes...
andrew santino
Whoa.
joe rogan
See, look at this.
Go back up to the top.
It says, nearly all the film is based on John's real-life experience, and what wasn't was based on other people's shared experiences with patient brokering...
jamie vernon
That's a little bit different.
joe rogan
In Southern California.
Without naming who specifically, Swab and Rosen confirmed that almost every part of the film is based on one person's experience.
andrew santino
Fucking wild.
joe rogan
Bro.
andrew santino
That just came out, Jamie?
That's a 2021?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this actually sounds like it's a slightly different thing.
joe rogan
Well, when they do that to Chinese political prisoners, you know, like, hey, Mr. Wilson from Connecticut, you need a heart?
andrew santino
Yeah, we got you.
joe rogan
And you run a hedge fund?
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
We might be able to get you to the top of the list.
andrew santino
It's going to be all right.
joe rogan
What was your blood type again?
andrew santino
We got them all, man.
Check it out.
joe rogan
It's going to cost X, Y, or Z, and then bam.
andrew santino
Yeah, I wonder, why can't they just take old dick skin and make it new dick skin?
Because you're right, dick skin is not...
Dick skin is different.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
andrew santino
How do you explain it?
joe rogan
How do you make it feel like a dick?
That's the thing, to you.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, could that be done?
Could they, like, hypersensitize all the skin around that area?
andrew santino
Well, like, turn your right...
Like, turn this into, like...
joe rogan
Stem cells?
andrew santino
Stem cells?
Yeah, that's gotta be right.
joe rogan
Yeah, just program it to become a dick?
andrew santino
Where can they grow a dick, Jamie?
Can they grow dicks?
jamie vernon
Uh, well, alright.
So, I'm finding stuff here.
But as you ask me a question...
andrew santino
Jamie always gets into these...
jamie vernon
I found a post that says, like, what can human skin...
What products are made from human tissue?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
andrew santino
Right.
jamie vernon
And it's things you might assume.
Dental implants.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jamie vernon
Fornia trims.
andrew santino
Yeah.
jamie vernon
And penis augmentation.
Heart valves.
Breast reconstruction.
Uh...
I thought I saw a thing.
There was a manifest on a ship somewhere that said that there was 6,000 pounds of human tissue.
andrew santino
6,000 pounds of...
jamie vernon
It was valued at $67,000, but they didn't know what was inside there.
andrew santino
Wait, what?
67,000 pounds?
joe rogan
They were smuggling it in?
jamie vernon
I'm piecing together stories of body brokering very loosely.
This isn't it.
This is bringing up the movie stuff.
unidentified
I don't even know how I got to it.
jamie vernon
Maybe it's in here.
I've got a few links up.
Yeah, this is the body trade.
Yeah, I found it in this, I guess.
andrew santino
Whoa.
jamie vernon
10,000 body parts from donors, shipping overseas.
Here you go.
According to Manifest, shipment bound for Europe included 6,000 pounds of human remains valued at $67,000.
They kept it in a 5 degree Fahrenheit container.
joe rogan
The body parts came from a Portland business called Medicure Inc., a so-called body broker.
Medicure profits by dissecting the bodies of altruistic donors and sending the parts to medical training and research companies.
andrew santino
Well, yeah, you're doing a good thing.
joe rogan
I guess.
andrew santino
What do you want to do, dude?
Do you want to be buried?
Do you want to be cremated?
What do you want when it's over?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
I think the move is Tibetan Sky Funeral.
andrew santino
What's up?
joe rogan
Do you know the Tibetan Sky Funeral?
andrew santino
No, dude.
joe rogan
That's the move.
andrew santino
What is that?
joe rogan
The move is they take you, they take your body, no embalming, they cut you up, and they bring you to the top of a mountain where they chop you up and feed you to vultures while everybody watches.
andrew santino
Why?
joe rogan
And the vultures know that that's what you're there for because they feed people to these vultures all the time.
And so the vultures just eat the people.
andrew santino
Why do you want that?
joe rogan
It's a ritualistic tradition.
Well, at least my body will be useful.
andrew santino
Right.
joe rogan
Goes back to nature.
unidentified
I guess.
joe rogan
Go to Tibetan Sky Funeral.
andrew santino
Chill.
joe rogan
So this is a Tibetan Sky Funeral.
So look at all these vultures just kind of chilling because they know that people are bringing over bodies.
Look, they're fighting over big chunks.
andrew santino
That's like a chunk of a human.
joe rogan
So they're cutting chunks of hair and meat and...
All these different pieces.
And so I don't know how much they're going to show in this.
jamie vernon
I just want to skip ahead to this 45 second video.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So this is a human body that they've left there.
I don't know how much you can see.
jamie vernon
I guess we would assume it's human, too.
We don't know that.
It could be something else.
joe rogan
It could.
I think it's mostly people.
Those are people's bodies laying there.
It looks like it, at least.
And they take them, they take their clothes off, they chop them up, and then the vultures eat them.
And everybody watches.
andrew santino
And this is how you want to...
This is it.
This is Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
How would you want to do it?
andrew santino
Burn me up, dude.
joe rogan
Burn me.
andrew santino
Well, because I don't want to take up any more space.
I already took up enough space while I'm here.
joe rogan
Look at you.
andrew santino
Well, I mean it in the sense of like...
joe rogan
Climate change, too many people.
andrew santino
No, fuck that.
Not because of that.
joe rogan
World population.
andrew santino
Well, just because it's like, what do you need?
You don't need me around anymore.
I'm not going to take up any more fucking...
My grandfather used to say, land is for the living.
He was like, fucking cemeteries are bullshit.
They're weird.
He's like, land's for the living.
You don't need that.
You're gone.
You did it.
Fuck off.
joe rogan
Do you think there's probably got to be a lot of people that are eyeing that big-ass cemetery in LA and going, you know how much this is worth?
andrew santino
Brother, the Hollywood Forever Cemetery?
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Well, that's one.
That's where they do movies and stuff.
andrew santino
Yeah, what's the one I'm thinking of?
joe rogan
The one near the 405. I know, it's huge.
It's huge, and it's prime real estate.
andrew santino
It's beautiful.
joe rogan
Is it a veteran cemetery?
andrew santino
Part of it, there is a veteran part.
Forrest Lawn.
joe rogan
That's it, yeah.
andrew santino
Part of it is, and then the other part of it is people.
Just fucking Mike and Jane.
joe rogan
That land.
What's that?
jamie vernon
It's privately owned.
andrew santino
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
That land's gotta be worth billions.
andrew santino
Well, there's multiple.
You know where Michael Jackson's, like he's above Glendale, right?
Like there's, Forest Lawn has multiple locations, or there are multiple parts to the cemetery, but there's like a ton of famous people buried by the Glendale Temple, I think.
You know who was buried?
This is funny.
I don't even, this popped into my brain.
My...
My dad's old house was in a neighborhood in Chicago, and across the street, literally from his house, was an old cemetery.
And a bunch of old famous gangsters were apparently buried there.
Right across from his house was Jack Ruby.
Do you know who that guy is?
He's the guy that shot Lee Harvey Oswald?
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
andrew santino
He was buried across the street from my dad, and I was reading up about him because I was like, I want to know more about...
I think his name was Jack Rubenstein or something like that.
But all about his motives, and then there was all these conspiracy theories about even people didn't even think he might not be the one that killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
joe rogan
Oh, he definitely killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
andrew santino
Well, right, but then they say that he shot him, right?
But then there was, people said that that's not what killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
joe rogan
Well, that's definitely what killed him.
andrew santino
But he didn't die on the spot, right?
joe rogan
No, he didn't die on the spot.
andrew santino
Right.
joe rogan
But, I mean, he shot him in the guts.
andrew santino
But it was a.22.
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
andrew santino
Look up how Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
joe rogan
It looked like a.38.
Yeah, what did he use?
I don't believe he used a.22.
andrew santino
Oh, well that is bigger than I thought.
joe rogan
That looks like a.38 to me.
andrew santino
It's pretty small.
joe rogan
It's not really, though.
jamie vernon
Was the arm in the way or did he shoot him by then?
joe rogan
I think he...
andrew santino
I think he had shot him by then.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I think it's like right in there.
jamie vernon
Yeah, you're probably just curling it from the shot.
joe rogan
Just Google what kind of gun Jack Ruby used to kill Lee Harvey Oswald.
andrew santino
But yeah, that headstone's right across the street from my dad's old house.
I mean, he's not, obviously, he moved away from there, but...
joe rogan
Do you know Jack Ruby was connected to MKUltra?
andrew santino
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
How?
joe rogan
Jolly West, the head guy from the CIA from MKUltra, went to visit Lee Harvey Oswald after he shot...
Went to visit, rather, Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
And after Jolly West left, Jack Ruby was insane.
He went insane.
He was hiding underneath his bunk.
He was saying that they're burning the Jews alive and millions are dying.
He gave him acid.
andrew santino
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He dosed him up.
andrew santino
Tripped him out.
joe rogan
While he was inside after he had shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
And shortly after that, he died of cancer.
andrew santino
Yeah, cancer like riddled his body.
I was reading about him and like lit it.
And it came like out of nowhere.
joe rogan
Gave him a little shut the fuck up.
andrew santino
Gave him a little shut the fuck up shot.
joe rogan
Gave him a little shut the fuck up shot.
andrew santino
Because they were like, oh no man, he got cancer overnight.
Like what?
It was all over his body.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
But before he was okay, totally.
joe rogan
They probably just force fed him radiation.
andrew santino
Something.
joe rogan
They gave him radiation with his acid.
Yeah.
But that MKUltra thing, there's a book on it called Chaos by Tom O'Neill.
It's an amazing book.
He was Greg Fitzsimmons' next-door neighbor for like 20 years.
andrew santino
What?
joe rogan
And he'd been working on this one book.
Started off as a magazine article, and as he started researching the magazine article, it just got deeper and deeper.
He found out more inconsistencies and more things that were fucked up.
And then he eventually realized that Charles Manson had been visited by Jolly West in prison.
And that they had experimented with Charles Manson with crowd control and mind control and cult control methods and they provided him with LSD most likely and most certainly got him out of jail every time he got arrested afterwards.
People who had arrested Charles Manson for all sorts of shit while he was on parole that should have put him in jail for the rest of his life.
They were like, well, he's above our pay grade.
We're being told to let him go.
So they would just let him go and then he would go out and run these hippies and have them murder people.
And this is at the time where they were trying to infiltrate The hippie movement, the same way the FBI tries to infiltrate these fucking wacky militias and get them to go kidnap the governor of Michigan.
Back then, they would dose people up with acid and get the hippies to go murder people.
They're like, this is a great way to crack down on the anti-war movement.
Great way to crack down on the hippies.
Get everybody terrified of this young movement of these...
These flower children.
They're not so peaceful after all.
Matter of fact, they're fucking murderers.
So they literally got a murderer in prison, got a crazy psychopath in prison, and Charles Manson taught him how to run a cult, taught him how to control people with LSD, and then supplied him with LSD and sent him out in the world.
andrew santino
Holy shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
That's trippy as fuck.
joe rogan
It's an amazing book, man.
The book's great because it's very detailed, as you can imagine, because Tom worked on it for 20 fucking years.
andrew santino
And how many has he written outside of that?
joe rogan
I don't think any.
andrew santino
That was the one.
joe rogan
I think that's his big book.
andrew santino
That's the one.
joe rogan
He's working on a second book because he had so much data just from that one case that I think he's working on a second book right now.
andrew santino
What's it called?
joe rogan
Chaos.
andrew santino
Chaos.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's wild.
It's really interesting stuff, man.
jamie vernon
38. 38. 38, yeah.
joe rogan
The most famous gun in the world.
An original bullet shot from the most famous gun in the world.
Jack Ruby.
Colt Cobra.
38 Special.
Yeah, see, I know my guy.
andrew santino
But look at it, it says 435 out of 5,000.
jamie vernon
So they shot bullets out of it, I think, to sell.
joe rogan
They shot 5,000 bullets out of it to sell.
How many dummies are like, I want that bullet.
Shot that son of a bitch Lee Harvey Oswald who definitely acted alone.
andrew santino
Yeah, he was by himself.
joe rogan
Give me that bullet.
andrew santino
Shoot something.
That is so funny, they had a meeting about it.
They're like, should we just shoot bullets out of that fucking thing and sell them?
Someone's like, yeah, some dummy will buy that shit.
joe rogan
Why do they only do 5,000?
They should do it every year.
andrew santino
Keep doing it.
joe rogan
Keep doing it.
andrew santino
Do it until the product runs out.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you, crazy?
The gun still works.
jamie vernon
Now you know how the card game works.
andrew santino
That's right.
jamie vernon
That's what happened in the cards with the Ken Griffey Jr. card.
What happened?
That was like the most famous baseball card you could buy for a while.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
And it turns out like Upper Deck got caught printing sheets and sheets and sheets of them and selling them to the collectors.
joe rogan
They're not numbered?
They weren't numbered?
jamie vernon
No, they weren't.
There's a documentary about this, actually, that's like a scam, and it ruined the card industry for quite a while.
And now only one company is allowed to sell baseball cards.
andrew santino
Who is it?
Topps?
Upper Deck?
jamie vernon
I think Topps got the contract, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the same way I feel about golf, I feel about baseball cards.
Like, what are you wasting your time doing?
andrew santino
Now that I understand.
joe rogan
At least golf is a career.
andrew santino
There's a sport.
Yeah, there's something to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a legit sport.
Like some people, you know, they make a lot of...
What do you think about the fucking, the live golf thing?
andrew santino
Love it.
Absolutely love it.
Why not?
joe rogan
Tell me more.
andrew santino
Here's the reason.
And I told you, before this, I know a guy that went over there.
And here's the thing.
Some people love the preservation in the history of the PGA. I get it.
Tradition.
A lot of things about the PGA are bullshit, and particularly the idea that the PGA had a stronghold on them.
It has remnants of contracts from studios in the 50s for actors, where you're like, we own your fucking ass.
Your likeness, your rights, your images.
When the golfers golf, They can't use that footage.
They have to license it from the PGA. So if I'm out playing and I want to be like, hey man, I want to put up a post on Instagram about this dope-ass putt I hit or whatever, this great...
You have to buy it.
You have to buy your shit back from them.
Bullshit.
Why?
If I'm Zion Williamson in the NBA and I fucking yoke on someone, I put my dick in their fucking face and dunk on them, the NBA can't wait to give you the footage.
They're like, dude, post that shit.
Because it's going to help their brand.
PGA is old white guy bullshit, and it's I get it that it's antiquated So some of the younger guys were like fuck this.
I want more freedom and fun.
I want something different Some of them their careers are on the Other side?
So they might not be making so much more to win money, right?
So this is a great alternative.
The problem people had was like, Dustin Johnson or, you know, guys that are at the top, and they're like, why are you pulling your game over there?
Do you think you can't win anymore in this?
Which is part of the controversy.
It's like, oh, do you...
joe rogan
But what's the big controversy?
The big controversy is one of the Saudis.
andrew santino
Yeah, but Saudi money is invested in...
Tons of shit.
Look up Saudi money LPGA. Look that up.
The investment of the Saudis isn't like a new thing in American sports.
People are just mad because, the PGA particularly is mad, because they're looking something in the face that's threatening them.
It's not going to be bigger than the PGA, but it's an alternative that's fun.
People like it.
It's not going to be bigger, not going to take it over.
joe rogan
But what people are concerned with is that people are leaving and they're going to work for someone who's been accused of some horrific shit.
andrew santino
Sure.
But who made your jeans?
joe rogan
These are American jeans.
andrew santino
But you know what I mean?
These are made by origin.
But most people go, oh dude, I don't like that.
It's like, your fucking shirt was made by a Chinese kid.
joe rogan
Well, your phone.
If you're complaining about stuff, you're literally complaining about it on a device that was made by slaves.
andrew santino
Well, that's my point.
So I think when you start to get into the nitpicky stuff, I'm always like...
I understand the idea of being like people are anti them playing for Saudi money, but if you think you're not involved in Saudi money at a high sports level, I'm sorry, but it's there.
joe rogan
Well, the WWE fans are freaking out now, right?
andrew santino
Why?
joe rogan
Jamie?
andrew santino
What's that about?
jamie vernon
It's last night that the Saudi Investment Fund bought the WWE, I believe.
andrew santino
Okay.
Well, what are you going to do?
joe rogan
What happens now?
andrew santino
I don't know.
joe rogan
What happens now?
andrew santino
Well, there's no divas.
There's not going to be any women.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Vince McMahon.
WWE talent done if company is sold to Saudi Arabia.
Thank you, brother!
jamie vernon
It says it's not sold to Saudi Arabia according to them.
This is what was happening on Twitter last night.
The WWE Twitter world freaked out.
It was like trending all night.
joe rogan
Well, go to Snopes.
What does Snopes have to say?
jamie vernon
Oh, they had an answer?
joe rogan
Oh, they did?
Is WWE being so research in progress?
andrew santino
Still going.
So yes.
So the answer is yes, and they just can't leak it.
joe rogan
Well, the money comes around if it's a substantial increase in money.
andrew santino
I think here's the deal.
I understand tradition, but if these guys want an alternative league to play in, fucking let them go play.
Who gives a shit?
I don't know.
Why do you need a monopoly of one league?
I mean, you look at the history...
joe rogan
That's not what the problem is.
What people have a problem with is Jamal Khashoggi.
Jamal Khashoggi, who was a journalist for the Washington Post, who was dismembered at the Turkish embassy, supposedly at the instructions of the Saudi royals.
Yeah.
He was critical of them.
andrew santino
Yeah, but I mean...
I don't know, man.
And I don't know who literally is funding.
They could be just Saudi businessmen that are funding Liv.
I don't know this particulars, but I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
Whatever.
If they want to go play in that league and they're comfortable with it, let them go play, I guess.
Fuck it.
joe rogan
What an American perspective.
andrew santino
Well, let them go play.
It's fucking capitalism, baby.
You want to get that fucking check, dude?
joe rogan
That's the Trump perspective.
andrew santino
Get that fucking check, dude.
joe rogan
Trump told them.
It's an amazing, amazing organization.
They're doing great things.
andrew santino
Doing great things.
joe rogan
Go get that money.
andrew santino
I think, honestly, here's what's really going to happen.
They're gonna go get that money, and then they're gonna leave.
Then it's gonna be over, and it's gonna dissipate into nothing.
unidentified
Or not.
joe rogan
If they have that kind of cheddar, they have enough cheddar, they could literally keep this going forever if they wanted to.
And they wouldn't put a dent in them.
andrew santino
No, no, it's not that.
You're right.
It's more that what guys are gonna be willing to either stay there or continue to go over there.
So the problem is the talent, right?
It's like anything else.
joe rogan
But they're having the events here.
andrew santino
Correct.
I went to one.
unidentified
So you don't have to stay, you don't have to go over there.
andrew santino
I think they only play one over there.
All of them are here.
I went to one in Chicago, Rich Harvest Farms.
It's really interesting to see the internal uproar, which I immediately attribute to...
Golf is an old tradition sport, so people are really particular.
So they don't even like that someone's entering the conversation.
The other perspective, obviously, is the one that is the bigger deal is people think it's an immoral move, an unethical move.
joe rogan
If it was instead some enormous hedge fund got together and they put all their money together and decided to fund their own alternative golf They'd be just as mad.
andrew santino
I think they'd be just as upset.
The PGA does not want competition.
They don't like that guys are even thinking about going.
And then I think, personally, they're shoehorning in the Saudi stuff to go, and that's bad.
See?
They're more mad about business interests.
They don't fucking care about the Saudi stuff.
joe rogan
How much of an effect is it having on the top players?
andrew santino
I mean, my buddy's doing a documentary that's coming out on Netflix, I think coming up soon in the first quarter of the year, about the PGA. And during it, during the middle of filming, half of the guys left and went to live, and he films both perspectives.
And it's supposed to be really good.
It's just, it's not changed much.
joe rogan
What's the highest level player?
andrew santino
The highest paycheck?
joe rogan
The highest level, like a guy who's a championship caliber.
andrew santino
Phil Mickelson is one of the greatest of all time, arguably, in a span of many, many golfers.
I'm not saying he's number one.
I'm just saying he is one of the best of all time, and I think he's the biggest money, right?
Wasn't he the biggest?
jamie vernon
Him or...
andrew santino
DJ? Yeah, him or DJ got the most, but...
joe rogan
And what kind of money are we talking about?
jamie vernon
150 mil, supposedly, to just come over to play before they want any extra money.
andrew santino
Before they got paid out.
joe rogan
Whoa.
andrew santino
Yeah.
jamie vernon
But it's also part of a contract.
No one knows the details of these contracts.
andrew santino
Well, they're private, right?
They don't have to disclose.
joe rogan
Didn't they lose all their sponsors once they went over there, though?
andrew santino
A lot of them lost some of their sponsors, but I don't know if you need them anymore after 150 mil clears.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew santino
Yeah, I think...
joe rogan
Like, what kind of sponsors are we talking about?
andrew santino
CDW, you know, like business investment firms.
Golf is sponsored heavily by like, you know, TD Ameritrade and shit.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
andrew santino
It's a lot of that shit.
joe rogan
Which makes sense because all those guys are the guys who like golf.
andrew santino
Yeah, that's who likes golf.
joe rogan
Yeah, businessmen.
andrew santino
Old businessmen.
joe rogan
They love to do business meetings on the golf course.
andrew santino
Good to see you, Phil.
joe rogan
I bet if you're like a businessman, you probably have to play golf.
In some circles?
andrew santino
It's an advantage.
I don't know if in the new era, our age is...
What's going on now in the youth of business, I don't fucking know what 22-year-olds have to do to get through in the corporate world, but I imagine it's still a part of it to a degree.
It's an inner circle that you're going to get leverage from some way or not.
It's like going to a good school.
It's like, dude, I went to Arizona State.
Did I have any connections?
I made zero fucking...
Friends!
I made a lot of fucking friends, but none of them could help me business-wise.
joe rogan
It's not like going to Yale.
andrew santino
No, yeah.
You go to an accredited university, someone's daddy is a somebody.
And so that's a big advantage in going to a good school.
joe rogan
And you meet that guy, and you might wind up working for his firm.
andrew santino
He might give you a fucking job.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
You want a job?
Does your kid want a job?
It's like that shit.
joe rogan
Billy's a good kid.
andrew santino
Really good kid.
joe rogan
And he's top of his class.
andrew santino
I give him a couple hundred grand a year out of school.
We'll let him fuck off for two years, and then we'll figure it out.
joe rogan
Show him how to do coke.
andrew santino
We'll give them a bump.
But so I think...
Like, at the end of the day, whatever people...
Whatever those guys want to do, I just want to watch golf.
So I don't give a shit.
I'm definitely...
The PGA is still going to be the number one because it has, you know, the Masters.
It has tournaments where you're...
It's just...
joe rogan
Now, is this the general attitude of most people?
Most people are just letting it go, they don't care, or are people outraged?
andrew santino
Most guys my age, I think Jamie might be in a similar boat where you're like, I don't fucking give a shit, but my dad's generation is like, fucking ridiculous, you don't support the fucking Saudis, and you go over there and you're abandoning the ship that you sailed in on.
You know, the PGA built you and it formed you.
It would be like if the UFC had a competitive thing come forward with way more money, which I don't know if that's happened.
I'm ignorant.
You could tell me if it has.
joe rogan
It hasn't.
andrew santino
But that's kind of the same thing.
joe rogan
There's some guys who get really good deals that they wouldn't get in the UFC. So what happens is if there's talent that's available that's top flight talent, Bellator has options.
That's an option.
A lot of guys will go to Bellator because Bellator will pay them more.
But it's like when you get to the World Championship, like the Conor McGregor, Khabib Nurmagomedov level, I think they make more money in the UFC. Right.
I think because they have pay-per-view.
You don't see pay-per-view with Bellator.
I think they've done a couple pay-per-views.
I don't think they've been that successful.
Whereas UFC does a pay-per-view every month.
Every month is an enormous pay-per-view.
There's world championship fights where you get the best of the best, and everybody knows who they are.
It's like Q-tips, NFL, NBA. That's MMA at the highest level.
You can get cotton swabs at CVS that aren't made by Q-tips.
You're asking for Q-tips.
Where's the Q-tips?
andrew santino
Where's Kleenex?
joe rogan
Yeah, where's the Kleenex?
That's not even the best example, right?
Because the Q-tips at CVS that aren't Q-tips, the cotton swabs, are probably just as good.
It's not that fucking hard to have a little stick and cotton on the end of it.
andrew santino
But it's the name.
joe rogan
To get elite, world-class fighters to compete in the biggest organization to hold that UFC belt, You know, I have Bruce Buffer say, and no!
You know, and they put that fucking strap on you.
Whoa.
That's the cream of the crop when it comes to combat sports.
andrew santino
Well, that's what it is in the PGA. It's like they hold tradition.
They've got it by the balls.
So no one will...
There's no...
It's not accredited.
You know, live is for fun.
It's for money and fun.
And I think they're trying to appeal to like a new young market.
joe rogan
I think they need to do that shit with the crowd.
andrew santino
Well, Liv has live music.
joe rogan
Who has that?
That one with the crowd?
That's a different thing?
andrew santino
That's the PGA. That's the PGA. Yeah, this is like the one time they kind of let this chaos go.
It's because it's in Phoenix.
Waste Management runs it.
joe rogan
Listen, it's a great move.
andrew santino
Well, you should show him a picture of what the 16th hole looks like without those stands.
What they build is mind-blowing.
The course outside of that looks nothing like that.
They build this huge structure that's around it.
joe rogan
So that structure they put in temporarily?
andrew santino
Yeah, that's gone.
Most of the time it's not there.
unidentified
What?
andrew santino
That's what it looks like.
joe rogan
That enormous structure they built temporarily?
andrew santino
Yes.
joe rogan
And they keep it or they take it down?
andrew santino
Just for the tournament.
joe rogan
They take it down?
andrew santino
The moment the tournament's closed, that course goes back to what it looked like.
Look at the 16th without it.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's insane.
andrew santino
Or 17, is it?
joe rogan
How many people are in there?
andrew santino
I mean, dude, that's got to be, I don't know, 5,000.
joe rogan
Oh, more.
It looks like more.
If that was a show that we were doing together, we'd be like, bro.
andrew santino
Just without grandstand, right?
Without grandstand.
joe rogan
That looks like 30, 40,000 to me, man.
andrew santino
Look at that's what it looks like, Joe, without it.
It's nothing.
There's a time lapse.
joe rogan
How many people were there?
Google the audience size.
jamie vernon
You're allowed to walk in and out of that area.
It's not like you need a seat.
andrew santino
Yeah, you don't stay.
jamie vernon
You can go anywhere on the course the whole day.
joe rogan
Right, but how many people get seated by that structure they put in place?
How many seats are available?
Take a guess.
I'm saying $40,000.
andrew santino
I would say $20,000.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's like $15,000.
andrew santino
$15,000 or $20,000.
joe rogan
It seems more than that, man.
andrew santino
It does.
joe rogan
It's so big.
jamie vernon
There's a lot of boxes, too.
They sell those boxes.
They sell those boxes because people now know how fun it is.
joe rogan
Right, but what's the actual number?
jamie vernon
I don't know that we'll know it.
It changes year to year because they add more people.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they have.
Okay, let's go the 2021 waste management open crowd size.
andrew santino
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
There's got to be a way to find it, right?
andrew santino
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, they'll give you an estimate of something.
They'll give you usually how many people show up because they brag about it.
20,000.
joe rogan
20,000.
jamie vernon
But that's the whole event.
That's not sitting in there.
andrew santino
Yeah, but I would argue half of them are there.
That's probably 10 grand maybe.
joe rogan
But what a great idea to get it exciting.
Because that was so much more exciting than a normal golf situation.
andrew santino
Well, you should hear when they interview pro golfers.
jamie vernon
This is only 5,000.
andrew santino
5,000 fans per day.
jamie vernon
But that was 2021. This is when the pandemic was happening.
joe rogan
Oh, right, right, right.
andrew santino
The grandstands are non-existent.
Pro golfers say that that's the most nervous they are because people talk shit, they're yelling.
Most times they get this, as a guy that holds up a thing to shut the fuck up.
There, there's no rules.
I love that.
And you know what's so funny?
When somebody does get a hole-in-one like that, they all throw beer.
He's got pictures of it where they'll throw beer on there, but they don't get kicked out or anything.
It's like the one time you're allowed to throw beer.
joe rogan
Okay, so it doesn't look as big as I thought now.
jamie vernon
There's not that many.
joe rogan
Now that I'm seeing it now.
unidentified
Is that last year?
jamie vernon
I don't know the exact year.
joe rogan
Boy, there's a lot of pressure.
No, that's 2017. Fuck up and whack someone in the head with a ball, too.
andrew santino
Look at the new one.
The new one's fucking huge.
The one from last year was massive.
jamie vernon
But if you go down, they're building the one here now.
It's not for 90 days.
They're already starting to build a grandstand.
andrew santino
Top right, Jamie.
That's from last year.
That's way bigger than it was.
joe rogan
They're building one here what?
jamie vernon
They have a tournament here in Austin, and I just drove by it the other day.
They're already starting to build the stands on like it's 12, 13, 14. It's a similar area like this.
It's definitely not quite as loud or anything like that, but they're building it now.
It's in the end of March, I think, is when they're here.
andrew santino
It's fun.
joe rogan
I like that idea, man.
That's a great idea.
andrew santino
You want to go to this?
You and I can go.
joe rogan
When is it?
andrew santino
It's in like three weeks.
Let's go.
You want to go to Phoenix and go have fucking fun?
joe rogan
I might want to go to that.
andrew santino
When I was at ASU, we used to go to this.
And if you're a student, you get cheap tickets.
And we would go there and party our fucking face.
I mean, it's basically like, you know, nobody's there to watch golf.
Everyone's there to have a good time.
joe rogan
It's like the Kentucky Derby.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do they gamble?
andrew santino
Oh, fuck yeah.
joe rogan
So people gamble on the matches?
andrew santino
So on that particular hole, what's really fun is people will gamble on like closest to the pin, you know, but you're doing it with buddies, like they'll go, the next foursome that's up.
Right, there's Phil.
unidentified
This is before he went over to live?
andrew santino
Yeah, this is a long time ago.
joe rogan
That is fucking crazy!
And this only happens at the Waste Management Open?
unidentified
Wow!
jamie vernon
I don't understand why they don't do it more.
It doesn't make any sense to me as a new person who's gotten into this.
Like, why every single event doesn't have one hole like this?
andrew santino
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's the move, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
andrew santino
I'll go back to what I said, dude.
It's like old white guy bullshit.
Okay, so, and live.
Not like this is a selling point.
They get to wear shorts.
joe rogan
Are you working for Liv?
andrew santino
Yeah, I work for Liv.
joe rogan
It says they wear shorts?
jamie vernon
Everyone's gotta wear pants no matter how hot it is.
unidentified
They have to wear pants.
andrew santino
It's the middle of fucking summer sometimes and they have to wear pants.
Liv lets them wear shorts, which, that's my point.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew santino
Why does the PGA give a fuck?
joe rogan
Why do they give a fuck?
andrew santino
Because it's tradition.
joe rogan
That's why you get that stupid jacket when you win.
andrew santino
That is a very cool jacket.
joe rogan
It's green.
andrew santino
I will take that fucking jacket.
How much would you want one of those fucking jackets?
joe rogan
Would you buy that normally?
Would you normally buy a green jacket?
andrew santino
You can't buy that.
joe rogan
No, but I mean, why would you want a green jacket?
andrew santino
Because nobody buys green jackets.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
As I wear a green t-shirt.
andrew santino
Yeah, yeah, fuck it.
No, but it's...
At the end of the day, those guys, in my opinion, will be...
What do you think?
Don't you think they'll come back from live?
I think it'll be a short-lived, fun fucking money-grab, and then it'll be done.
jamie vernon
It would be really cool.
I mean, every league that we've watched now was...
Probably now a conglomeration of what they were.
The NFL was AFC, NFC. Yeah, of course.
Two different conferences that came together to do something we were just talking about.
Oh, there's a pickleball league starting.
That was two different leagues that are joining up to make a new pickleball league.
That's completely different than this, but yes, it seems like it will be a benefit in the long run.
I don't know how it can hurt.
joe rogan
I wonder if someone's thinking about doing that with MMA. Like a bigger company that has tons more money, capital.
You'd have to have so much more money.
andrew santino
Well, Saudis.
joe rogan
Because the UFC, they purchased the UFC for $4 billion.
And I think it's worth $10 now.
I think it's valued at $10 now.
And, you know, they picked it up.
And right when they picked it up, the pandemic hit.
And Dana White kept the fights rolling.
So the fights were rolling on while there was nothing else going on in the world of sports.
And they were playing them at the Apex.
The UFC had their own arena.
They put together a COVID bubble.
Everybody got tested.
You got tested before you got on your flight.
You got tested when you got there.
You got tested the day of the event.
They tested the shit out of everybody.
And no audience.
And they had world championship fights with no audience.
And an octagon that's 40% smaller than the regular octagon.
andrew santino
Why?
joe rogan
Because it's smaller for the building.
They decided to make a smaller, they always had a smaller octagon.
Like when we used to do fights at the Palms, we used to do like fight nights or when they used to do like the finals of The Ultimate Fighter, they would have them at the Palms and they'd have them in a small cage.
And then they decided they kind of liked the small cage.
Because the Palms was a small place where we would do it at.
When we did fight, see if you find fights at the Palms.
I saw it.
Kickboxing at the Palms.
I saw Glory there.
I saw a bunch of shit at the Palms.
The Palms was a great spot.
And they used to have comedy.
Like, Cat Williams performed there.
They had comedy there, too.
It was this amazing little arena.
andrew santino
At the Palms.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was real intimate there.
You go to see fights.
I mean, I want to say there's just a few thousand people there.
andrew santino
That's a cool-looking room.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So that's the pearl at the palms.
And the way that's set up, that's different than the way the UFC was set up.
The way the UFC was set up was like that, in the center.
andrew santino
And that's tinier than normal.
joe rogan
Yes.
That's a small octagon.
That's a 40% smaller octagon in the apex.
I think it's the same size as the one they use at the palm.
I'm not exactly sure.
But a lot of fighters do not like it.
Guys who move around a lot, like Sugar Sean O'Malley, does not want to be at the apex.
andrew santino
He wants to move around.
I love you, Joe Rogan.
I've seen that collab of him just going, I love you, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
I love him.
andrew santino
I love you too, buddy.
It makes me laugh.
He's amazing.
Yeah, no, he's fucking awesome to watch.
joe rogan
Yeah, I interviewed him when he had a broken foot when he was on his back.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
He broke his foot.
What's that foot?
There's a really bad foot break.
Liz Frank.
He was out for two years.
He snapped the bone in the middle of his foot.
andrew santino
It's called Liz Frank?
joe rogan
It's called the Liz Frank injury.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's not like a name.
It's all L-I-S-F-R-A-N-C. Oh, Liz Frank.
On the screen, Joe, this is the arena that they're showing that this new indoor golf thing is going to happen next year.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
It's going to be at night, an arena-type thing where everyone's yelling.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
jamie vernon
Back here, you're hitting to the sim like me and Andrew were doing back in the other room.
joe rogan
So is this the PGA as well?
jamie vernon
I don't think it's the PGA. All I've heard is it's Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy have put this together.
andrew santino
Well, the PGA's sim, the logo's on it.
jamie vernon
It's not called PGA, it's called TGL. It's also been unannounced fully.
They've just hinted at what's going to happen here or how it's going to work.
We don't really know.
It's like eight players are going to show up.
joe rogan
What are those numbers?
466 yards.
What does that mean?
andrew santino
That's how long the hole was.
jamie vernon
That's how far he hit, yeah.
joe rogan
That's how far he could drive it.
jamie vernon
How far he has left probably.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
andrew santino
Yeah, it says number one.
He's at 466 yards for the hole.
jamie vernon
So they'll be in the back and they'll hit their first one or two shots into that giant screen and then come and finish on the green.
andrew santino
On the green.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
jamie vernon
And it'll probably change a little bit.
joe rogan
Now is Tiger back with his leg injury?
jamie vernon
This allows him to compete.
andrew santino
Yeah, but he's not gonna...
We've seen the best we're ever going to see from him, and I think...
joe rogan
How fucked up is his leg?
andrew santino
I mean, it's bad.
You can tell when he swings, it looks different.
I mean, his son is the one to look for.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen his son.
His son looks incredible.
Let me see what it looks like when he swings now.
Show, like, Tiger Woods Drive.
andrew santino
Yeah, there's got to be...
I bet you there's a video of him before and after.
I mean, he just had to change everything because his...
And you can tell when he walks, he's in fucking pain.
Like, you can just tell he's just in pain.
joe rogan
And that poor guy, he's had, like, addictions to pain pills in the past.
andrew santino
Yeah, fuck yeah.
joe rogan
So is this him here?
andrew santino
Yeah.
This was the most recent thing he's done.
Yeah, the thing they did.
unidentified
This was the match.
joe rogan
That looks pretty fucking good.
andrew santino
Yeah, he's good.
No, he's still got it, without a doubt.
joe rogan
That looks pretty fucking good.
andrew santino
He's still Tiger Woods.
joe rogan
That still looks fucking amazing.
jamie vernon
He can't walk.
andrew santino
He just can't walk is what I mean.
joe rogan
Really?
So he can do that because he can just deal with the pain?
andrew santino
He does, yeah.
joe rogan
And then when he walks...
What is it like when he walks?
jamie vernon
Well, part of that traditional thing he's saying...
andrew santino
He gets to ride in a cart for this, and part of the thing that he's about to tell you is a big beef with the PGA is you have to have a medical exemption under wild circumstances like this to be able to have a cart during a real event.
joe rogan
Right.
Otherwise you'd have to walk miles.
andrew santino
You must walk, yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
That's kind of crazy, too, that you have to walk.
But is it fair that he has a medical exemption?
Do they let all these other guys do it as well because he does it?
andrew santino
Well, this is not a real tournament.
This is like a for fun.
Capital One sponsors this.
It goes to charity.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
They got their Under Armour logos.
andrew santino
But in play, like in a tournament play of a real PGA match, they can't have carts.
No.
joe rogan
Okay.
So even him?
jamie vernon
He could.
All the players are saying, Tiger, please come play with us.
Ask for this exemption.
They will probably give it to you.
And he's like, nope.
joe rogan
Who is he talking to on the phone?
jamie vernon
They have Charles Barkley and the people on the...
andrew santino
Yeah, he's talking to us.
unidentified
I hate to say it, but I'm going to admit it.
jamie vernon
He's probably talking shit to him.
unidentified
They have mics on so you can hear the golfers talking to their caddies and stuff and the PGA doesn't really allow that either.
joe rogan
That's pretty cool.
unidentified
It's a good insight that you don't get.
jamie vernon
Like, he looks good golfing, and he's been pretty competitive when he's gotten to compete.
joe rogan
What does it look like when he walks?
He's walking...
andrew santino
Yeah.
Well, show him with his match with his son that they just did.
joe rogan
Do they show him walking around?
andrew santino
Yeah.
And they keep commenting that he's in pain, and you can tell, dude.
I mean, he's a tough motherfucker.
This dude is tough as shit.
He's just going through...
You can tell he's just walking through the pain.
But you can tell when he'll hobble, he'll kind of, like, make a face.
joe rogan
And that's a couple of years ago, this injury, right?
andrew santino
Two years ago, right?
When the car crash was?
jamie vernon
Yeah, here's him walking at the British Open last year.
This is a long walk.
I mean, we don't see him limping.
Oh, sorry.
unidentified
Shit.
jamie vernon
You can see him limping here.
This is after a full round.
andrew santino
Yeah, you see how his right leg kind of bows in?
I mean, look, see right there?
I mean, he just, you can tell that he's kind of bowing, he's putting all this weight on one hip.
jamie vernon
Not bad.
We're really pulling hairs here, but I just trust him.
He's like, I can't do it.
andrew santino
Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
We say not bad.
You know the truth.
You know pro athletes.
They're just tough.
He's like, fuck it.
I'm just going to do it.
I don't care.
jamie vernon
This is also like a historical thing.
It's the 150th British Open.
He made a big effort just to get to be able to do this.
So he probably worked for months.
joe rogan
People can tolerate pain, man, at incredible levels.
You know, when I had David Goggins on, David Goggins explained the operation that he had to get done on his knee because he has no cartilage in his knees.
It's bone on bone.
andrew santino
He runs like a thousand miles.
joe rogan
His doctor said, I can't believe you can walk in this knee.
Never mind run thousands of miles.
And it's just pure will.
Just pure will.
And the overcoming of pain.
And because there's just bone on bone, the bone was all distorted and fucking overgrowth and shit to try to deal with all this inflammation.
So then they had to cut his bone.
And slide it down to make an even, flat joint.
andrew santino
That's nuts, dude.
joe rogan
And still, even then, he's just bone on bone.
andrew santino
He's still running.
joe rogan
Still running.
andrew santino
Dude's nuts.
unidentified
That's great.
andrew santino
I mean, that's fucking...
unidentified
Still running.
joe rogan
Running the Bigfoot 240. What is that?
238 miles.
andrew santino
No thanks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
No thanks.
unidentified
He ran...
joe rogan
The Moab.
That's what he ran.
The Moab 240. Yeah.
I think the Bigfoot's 200. Do you run?
No.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
I hurt my knee...
A couple of times and I've been over the last like, say seven or eight months, I don't even kick the bag anymore.
I've been dealing with it.
I had an MCL tear and I rehabbed it and I got stem cells shot into it.
But my dumb ass kept going back to working out, like throwing kicks.
And every time I would go to Muay Thai and every time I'd hit the pads, I'd never hit them light.
I'd start hitting them light and then I'd want to work!
I want to feel that fucking whack!
It's just too much fun.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
It's too much fun to be able to do that.
To be able to really kick hard is so fun.
It's so fun.
andrew santino
Well, it looks fun.
joe rogan
It's fun.
andrew santino
But see, I would look like...
You look like swinging a golf club.
I look like kicking a fucking bag.
joe rogan
But you could learn it.
Yeah, with time.
But it's a thing that when you get it to a level where I can do it, it's so unusual to be able to generate that kind of power.
So when I step up to a heavy bag, it's just my automatic instinct is just to fucking dig my toes in.
I just want to fucking torque my body and swing my hips in and Tighten up my abs.
It's exciting.
andrew santino
No more though.
joe rogan
I can still do it.
I just have to wait a little while.
It's much, much, much better.
My knee doesn't give me any pain anymore.
This hunting season in the mountains, no pain at all.
I've been doing this knees over toes rehabilitation.
You ever heard of that guy?
Knees over toes guys on Instagram?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
He's an expert in—well, he's a fitness trainer, and he had a bunch of injuries himself from playing basketball, and to the point where they were saying, like, look, you're too fragile, your knees keep fucking up, you're never going to be able to play.
And so he figured out ways to strengthen and rehabilitate his knees.
And he developed this knees over toes program.
It's a scalable program.
You start off with just like walking backwards and pulling a light sled backwards and doing certain things till you get to the point where you can have strength in a full range of motion with your knees doing things like that.
andrew santino
Oh, dude, I have seen this guy.
I've seen him.
Yeah, that's fucking insane.
joe rogan
And if you can get to that, and he, it's not like a trick.
He has a, like, look, walking backward on a treadmill, doing tibia raises, and it's all to strengthen the muscles around the knee and the stabilizing muscles of the knee, which most people are very weak in.
You know, people have, like, strong quads, but they don't have the exercises in their repertoire that...
Develops all the muscles around the knee and this guy's developed this whole program.
It's really amazing.
So I do all his stuff.
I do a lot of stuff on a slant board.
I do squats like air squats and then weighted squats on a slant board and I have this thing that I use for my legs from a place called, I think it's called Animal House Fitness and it's called a monkey foot and it clamps onto a barbell.
You strap it onto your shoe.
And it clamps onto a dumbbell, so you can pick up dumbbells with your foot.
So you can do knee raises and leg curls and leg extensions and really strengthen all the muscles around your knee and around your hip flexors.
Because lifting with your legs this way, like a reverse squat, is another excellent way to develop speed and power.
So this is his company, Animal House Fitness.
They sent me these.
These are fucking amazing.
I bring these on the road with me.
I bring one of those things.
Because if I go to a small gym, I can still get a really good leg workout.
And that's one thing that I do that really works well with those hip muscles and stabilizing muscles.
But there's another thing you do where you take a cable pulling machine.
And you attach the straps to your insteps and then you pull with your feet forward towards your chest.
So like a reverse squat.
So instead of like lifting weights by pushing up off the ground, you're pulling it towards you.
Phenomenal for your abs.
It's like one of the best ab workouts.
Think about knee raises, but think about knee raises times 10. So, you know, I'm doing this with 100 pounds for 10 reps, and it really builds the strength in your ab muscles and your hip flexors, and you tie it into your shoes like this.
So you pull that thing down, you cinch it up, and then you back up, and then you're just using the muscles.
andrew santino
See, but it looks like he's doing it at just the regular ones at the gym.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I use.
I use a regular pulley machine at the gym with those straps.
So I do it with the monkey feet, but I also do it with that.
So you're developing muscles, and it's phenomenal for kicking, too, because the hip flexors and all these muscles at the top of the thighs, they don't get worked out with weights very often.
So you really develop those by hitting a bag, which is the best way to develop technique, but you can develop additional power by doing that.
andrew santino
You ever want to kick anybody anymore?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Of course.
andrew santino
Why don't you kick somebody?
If I could kick like you, I'd love to kick them.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then they kick you back.
andrew santino
I don't think you're worried about anybody kicking you back.
joe rogan
I'm worried about people kicking you back.
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
People like me.
andrew santino
Yeah, but there's not a lot of yous, dude.
joe rogan
But if I was going to fight someone, I'd fight someone like me.
And then they would kick me the way I'd want to kick them?
andrew santino
No thanks.
joe rogan
No thanks, dude.
No thanks.
andrew santino
That's the rule of life.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
andrew santino
He's gonna kick me like I kick him.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
Yeah.
And there's also guys break their legs kicking people.
You know, someone checks it and you catch your shin the wrong way and it snaps in half.
andrew santino
Let's say there's a guy that's your size.
Your size guy.
All circumstances are gone as far as who you are in the world of fame and getting in trouble.
I don't want to hurt anybody.
I know.
But let's just say a guy wants to fight you, and you can.
Because of the bubble that we're in in my mental mind, there's no trouble that's going to happen.
Are you going to punch this guy first or kick him first?
What's your first shot?
joe rogan
It would completely depend upon the circumstances.
Completely depend upon how much room you have to move around in.
How much danger you're in, whether or not you can just grab him.
andrew santino
He walks in here.
joe rogan
I'd rather grab somebody.
If I grab someone, I can contain them.
andrew santino
And get them to the ground?
joe rogan
Yeah.
100%.
andrew santino
Let's just say it's just punch or kick.
What are you doing first?
joe rogan
It depends on the circumstances.
It depends on how far the person is from you.
andrew santino
Jamie's laughing.
joe rogan
It depends on everything.
andrew santino
I know.
I knew you were going to give...
Just give me a fucking...
joe rogan
Depends on everything.
andrew santino
Give me an ape answer.
Give me a monkey brain answer.
joe rogan
Well, if you have to get something done very quickly, a punch to the face is a very quick thing.
andrew santino
Okay, so you're going to punch first.
joe rogan
The movement from standing, talking to someone, to punching them in the face is a fraction of a second.
BAM! If you have a good, clean, straight punch and you know how to throw it fast, if you know that you have to hit somebody and you want to hit them before they hit you, that's a good way to go.
andrew santino
Okay.
I just wanted to know what your instinct was.
If you had to do it.
It's a punch always.
joe rogan
If you're fast.
Yeah.
andrew santino
It's a speed thing.
I just want to see you kick somebody.
joe rogan
I don't want to see me kick somebody.
andrew santino
I do.
joe rogan
I did it for a long time.
There's a weird, bittersweet thing about knocking someone unconscious.
It doesn't feel that good.
You think it feels great.
It feels very weird.
And it feels like that could have easily been you.
And I watched a lot of my friends get knocked out, too.
I saw a lot of friends get knocked out where they kind of weren't the same again.
They really never recovered.
I saw some people get really badly knocked out, and they were always a little fucking weird afterwards.
They were always like something was wrong with them.
andrew santino
It does.
Yeah, it does.
It does.
Uh-oh.
joe rogan
What is this one?
andrew santino
This is me and Jamie.
jamie vernon
This guy on the left tells this guy, he's like, you want to lose your kneecap?
joe rogan
Oh, no.
jamie vernon
It's not a good idea to say that, I think.
joe rogan
Did he kick him in the knees?
jamie vernon
Uh, no.
andrew santino
Dude gets knocked out after threatening to break man's kneecap.
Well, that was that, I guess.
jamie vernon
That's the end of that.
joe rogan
So what did he say?
I'm going to break your fucking kneecap?
jamie vernon
You want to lose your fucking kneecap?
joe rogan
Oh, that guy knows how to fight.
andrew santino
Yeah, it was pretty good.
joe rogan
Because he opens with a left hook.
Watch us.
He goes, what?
jamie vernon
So fast.
joe rogan
The way he left hooks him, that's a guy that knows how to fight.
100% he's done that to people before.
And probably in competition.
He opens with a left hook.
Who opens with a left hook?
andrew santino
But I gotta be honest with you.
Not like I'm criticizing.
jamie vernon
It's almost like he's like, are you talking to me?
andrew santino
Yeah, he leans into him a little bit.
He's like, I'm gonna fucking hit you.
joe rogan
He didn't have to do that.
andrew santino
No, he did not have to do it.
But he works at NASA. I just saw on his shirt there.
He's a NASA guy.
joe rogan
He's an astronaut.
andrew santino
No more rockets for him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
That's it for you, Pat.
joe rogan
Well, the problem with that is people die.
They fall and they hit their head and they die.
andrew santino
You don't want that.
joe rogan
He's fighting on a parking lot.
andrew santino
You don't want that.
joe rogan
You fall, you bang your head off a curb.
That's it.
andrew santino
You don't want that.
I know.
I get that.
I remember.
I got kicked in the face in college in a fight.
joe rogan
Did you?
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
Guy kicked you in the face?
andrew santino
Well, the side of...
I should say the side of my face.
unidentified
Were you on the ground?
andrew santino
Yeah.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
That's scary.
andrew santino
Me and a couple of buddies, we got the shit...
unidentified
Dude!
andrew santino
They remember.
They know.
My buddies know.
Colin, Travis, they remember.
Bunch of drunk bros.
Apartment complex.
Scottsdale.
Well, by school.
It was by ASU. A car.
A guy was driving drunk and backed out of a spot.
Almost hit a girl.
My buddy was trying to be a hero.
Protect the girl.
And all these guys came out.
And at first I was like, we don't have to fight these guys.
Do we have to fight these guys?
And then they started fighting and I was like...
I don't want to fight these guys.
There were so many more of these guys.
I was like, this is not fun.
We're going to get fucked up.
And of course your friends are like, don't be a bitch!
And you're like, I want to be a bitch.
I want to go home.
And I got kicked in the fucking...
It wasn't fair.
It was like seven.
We were three of us or four of us maybe at the most.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
andrew santino
Yeah, it hurt.
Being on the ground hurts.
joe rogan
It's so dangerous.
andrew santino
Yeah, I hated it.
It was fucking, it sucked.
joe rogan
I watched a World Star Hip Hop once where this guy got knocked out and then everybody ran by and kicked him in the head while he was unconscious.
andrew santino
Yeah, that I don't like.
That stuff's...
joe rogan
It was so scary.
andrew santino
Yucky.
joe rogan
Because it was like, as this guy kept getting kicked in the head, I was like, that's closer to death.
That's closer to death.
andrew santino
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Easily could have died.
Might be dead.
I don't even know if a guy lived.
andrew santino
Yeah, that's the only thing about when you would let me come see UFC, you know, because admittedly, I don't know enough about it.
I'm not filled in.
I love watching it, and I love that you bring me.
But I was always like, man, when I saw somebody get worked, I was like, oh my god, I'm watching part of his life leave him.
It's like I'm watching a couple of years go by.
joe rogan
Well, if you're watching a guy like Khabib Nurmagomedov just smash some guy, get on top of him and smash him, you're watching with each subsequent elbow, with each punch, you're closer to death.
andrew santino
You're not going to answer this.
How much longer do you think you'll announce UFC? That's a good question.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I thought about it.
Because I'll always be a fan.
I always watch it.
And I do enjoy commenting.
But it is kind of weird that I still do it.
It's a weird gig.
andrew santino
Do you love it still?
joe rogan
I love it.
Love it.
When the fights are going on and I got my fucking suit on there and I'm sitting there and I'm all excited.
I'm filled up with monster energy drinks.
I'm fired up, man.
andrew santino
I will say, as your friend, it's so funny, like, being friends with you and watching what people don't know or don't get to feel is when we go to, like, the thing together and, like, you getting excited and getting ready.
Your energy is much different than when you and I are going to do a show.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It's totally different.
andrew santino
Well, it's just, like, it's cool to see.
Because your process is totally different.
But it's just, you're a different you than when you and I are traveling and doing a show.
Same kind of intensity that you're bringing to stand-up, just it's a different vector of the brain.
joe rogan
It's certainly different than I never try to be funny.
I'm not trying to be funny at all.
But remember when Dennis Miller did Monday Night Football?
andrew santino
Yeah, I did.
joe rogan
He tried to do a bunch of one-liners.
People are like, get that fucking guy out of here.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude, it's bad.
joe rogan
There's a time and a place for jokes.
I've had some funny moments where some shit happened and I crack a joke about something, but it's rare.
There was one time this guy dropped a bag of ice in the middle of the octagon on this guy's head and the ice fell everywhere and they panicked and they just ran out of there.
I'm yelling out, clean it up!
Get back in there!
What are you doing?
It's kind of like a famous clip because it was so ridiculous because these guys had tried to...
andrew santino
The ice spill!
joe rogan
The ice spill!
That's a fucking clip!
So it's in the middle of this fight.
Someone spilled ice in the octagon.
That's a big problem.
That's a lot of ice.
So it's Melvin Gallard.
Look at all that ice!
This is a disaster.
Oh no, this is good.
Look at that.
They knocked the bucket over.
This is the free stooges.
What are you freaks doing?
Everybody's booing.
Now there's even more pressure.
Oh, now they're sweeping it out.
That's good.
Put it on the side and watch Ariane fall on her head.
unidentified
You know what?
This is Joe Rogan doing play-by-play of ice being spilled inside the octagon.
joe rogan
It's still too much.
Get back in there!
You're not done!
There's ice all over the floor!
unidentified
What are these guys doing?
joe rogan
Those guys bailed.
There's a hundred pieces of ice still on the floor.
And these guys just scrambled out because of the pressure.
We need a Zamboni.
Let's take a look.
Let's take a look at it.
Watch it.
Here's the bag.
They get it on top of Hany's Taurus' back.
And watch the sucker open up.
Oh, no!
Oh, what a disaster.
unidentified
There's ice everywhere.
joe rogan
Those corner men.
Somebody needs to kick their ass.
andrew santino
I can't fight.
joe rogan
And Hany's...
So that was a rare time where I'm fucking around.
andrew santino
Where you're joking around.
joe rogan
But it's like just me and my boy Mike Goldberg watching this fucking disaster take place.
I have to make fun of it.
andrew santino
Well, what else could you have done?
joe rogan
I can't do anything.
andrew santino
You can't go back.
And it did, not to fucking tease those poor dudes, but that guy you could tell inside was like, fuck, you're fucking it up.
You're fucking it up.
You could tell he was fumbling.
You knew he kept fucking it up.
So much pressure.
So much pressure.
joe rogan
Full T-Mobile arena or wherever the fuck it was.
Full pack house at the MGM. But most of the time when I'm doing it, I'm trying to just do my best to explain what's happening and to give life to it.
andrew santino
I'm interested to see, as your buddy, what's the next...
Moving here was a big thing.
The club is a big thing.
What's your next thing?
unidentified
Nothing.
andrew santino
Nah, there's something.
joe rogan
Do stand up.
Do this.
andrew santino
Fucking lie.
Something's coming.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
andrew santino
I think you're a guy who forever will want to be building something or growing something or making something or changing something.
So I think whether you know it or not, you're going to keep...
This was unexpected.
You weren't supposed to come to Austin.
It wasn't like a thing you said 30 years ago where like, man, I got to get to LA. I'm going to Austin.
This happened.
I think there are things because of who you are, shit's going to continue to happen and things will continue to change and you'll build and grow and open up something else and change something else.
I know it.
You're not a sit still guy.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
I'm not sitting still.
I'm just doing what I like to do.
I found what I like to do.
I do those things.
andrew santino
By way of, I do think other things will organically happen and change and, you know.
joe rogan
Maybe.
andrew santino
Yeah, I'm saying it.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
What about you?
Then move to New York?
andrew santino
Move to New York is going to be big.
You know, it's a weird beginning of the year.
You know, I put the special out on Netflix.
I have a movie that comes out in like a day that I have a couple of parts in.
Another movie that's...
joe rogan
What's the movie?
andrew santino
It's called House Party.
They remade House Party.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
andrew santino
I'm the white.
Show the fucking poster.
I'm the white.
There are no...
I am the white.
It's like...
joe rogan
Was it fun?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
I had a good time, but I'm barely in it.
But they put me on the poster because I'm the goofy white neighbor, and you look like this.
It's like a sea of cool...
joe rogan
Did you get to see any of the filming?
andrew santino
Look at me, dude.
unidentified
Oh, look at you!
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew santino
Yeah, it's out on Friday.
joe rogan
So who put this together?
andrew santino
Well, I mean...
joe rogan
Kid and Play.
unidentified
Look at that.
andrew santino
Kid and Play...
joe rogan
Doesn't Kid do stand-up still?
andrew santino
That I don't know.
joe rogan
I think he does.
andrew santino
I have no idea.
joe rogan
He started doing stand-up, remember?
He did a few movies, and then he was doing stand-up.
andrew santino
Like back in the day or now?
joe rogan
Like in the 90s?
andrew santino
Yeah, I don't know if he's still doing it now.
joe rogan
Find out if he's still doing stand-up.
He might be still doing stand-up.
He might just be hitting the road.
andrew santino
But LeBron's production company put it on.
I mean, I got asked to do it.
And they were like, well, you play this fun neighbor that harasses these two young black kids.
And I was like, you better believe it.
I said, what do you want me to play my dad?
joe rogan
So you did that?
You got another movie coming out?
andrew santino
An indie movie that's a small little baby thing and then Dave, the third season of that show comes out in March and then my Netflix special.
So it's like the beginning of the year has a lot happening and I'm like, that's why I'm like, I want to see what happens and go to New York and have a little change and see what makes of it.
joe rogan
I like it.
Mix it up.
andrew santino
You gotta change it up, man.
joe rogan
Mix it up!
andrew santino
Maybe I'll move here.
Maybe you move here.
Maybe.
joe rogan
Once the club opens up, I'm going to try to lure you.
andrew santino
I was going to say.
We'll see.
When that club's open, it'll change everything.
joe rogan
Also, I'll try to draw you in.
andrew santino
Then I got some competition down here with Jamie now that he's fucking got his little track man out there.
joe rogan
Well, at least in the driving, but I don't think Jamie can compete with you in the rest of the golf game.
jamie vernon
I got a lot of work to go.
andrew santino
I'll help you out a little bit.
We'll put some puzzle pieces together.
joe rogan
Just some simple bets.
andrew santino
Yeah, just some tiny stuff.
A couple hundred grand.
Yeah, we were talking about it before.
You know, Jordan bets like a hundred grand a hole.
jamie vernon
What?
andrew santino
Charles Barkley just did an interview where he was saying how like him and he doesn't do that.
Like him and Jordan bet for a couple hundred bucks.
But Jordan, what was it?
It's printed out somewhere in an article that he said the most he saw I think was a hundred G's or two hundred G's a hole or something like that.
I don't even remember what it was.
Yeah, you don't want to fucking play Jordan.
Even if you're good, even if you're good.
joe rogan
So it's $180,000 a game, right?
If you're doing 18 holes.
andrew santino
Well, it depends on if you're doing skins or like if you carry over.
Some people don't do carry over, right?
Like if you push a hole, some people push the hole, but I imagine he carries over.
So yeah, I guess you'd, yeah.
joe rogan
The problem with that is he's a billionaire.
andrew santino
Too much.
That's what Charles was saying.
He's like, it doesn't matter to him.
He doesn't think about it.
joe rogan
What's a hundred grand to Michael Jordan?
jamie vernon
That's exactly what Charles said.
I think it's Jeremy Roenick that's telling this story.
andrew santino
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the hockey player.
jamie vernon
This is a crazy story.
It's two minutes long.
I think it's worth playing right now.
unidentified
Back in the 90s, when the Bulls were on fire, this was...
End of the season for us, end of the season for them.
I get a call from Michael.
Meet me at Sunset Ridge.
Early, we're going to go play 18 holes.
We didn't have a game.
We actually had a day off.
So I meet him at Sunset Ridge.
Big old Greg Kunkel, who's one of the best people in golf here in Chicago.
I've got to mention Greg at Sunset Ridge.
So we played around, beat him for a couple thousand, and I'm getting ready to leave.
Now, Bulls are playing that night.
They play Cleveland.
That night.
So I'm thinking he's leaving.
It's 10 o'clock.
He's like, no, let's go play again.
So we fill up a bag full of ice and pours light and we walk again.
We roll around another 18. I take him for another couple.
Couple?
Yeah.
And now we've been drinking all afternoon.
Now he's going from Sunset Ridge to...
To the stadium.
To play a game.
And I'm like messing around.
I'm like, I'm going to call my bookie.
All the money that you just lost to me, I'm putting on Cleveland tonight.
He goes, I'll tell you what.
He goes, I'll bet you that we win by 20 points and I have more than 40. I'm like, done.
Son of a gun goes out, scores 52, and they win by 26 or something.
After 18 holes of golf.
36 holes of golf.
36 holes of golf and having like maybe 10 Bud Lights.
The man...
Michael Jordan, to me, is probably the best athlete that I've ever seen, that I've ever been around and watched play and, you know, the way he presented himself and played the game.
I mean, just amazing.
What year was that?
That would have been 92?
jamie vernon
92. So early.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
Superhuman.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
10 beers.
jamie vernon
I'm so tired playing one round with like three beers in a shot.
unidentified
10 beers, 36 holes, and then he scores 52 points.
andrew santino
Superhuman.
jamie vernon
Not the only time he did that, too.
Not the only time.
He did it before the finals.
He played John Stockton.
There's stories of him trying to beat down opponents playing golf.
andrew santino
There's rumors.
There's tons of different rumor stories about he could fucking go out all night, drink, hang out, have fun, wake up, you know, at fucking 5, 6 in the morning, work out, go play a game and score just as many as he would if he wasn't fucking blacked out the night before.
Didn't affect him.
unidentified
Wow.
andrew santino
Superhuman shit.
That guy was a super...
It's just...
He's one of those guys where I'm sure all of the lore is real.
Where you're like...
Every story where someone's like, really?
It's like, I bet.
I bet you.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing that even amongst the most hyper-competitive elite athletes, there's one that just stands out.
andrew santino
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just stands out as the freak of all freaks.
andrew santino
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
I love that there's things like that.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love that there's people.
I love the people that defy all the logic.
Even though people hate Floyd Mayweather, I love Floyd Mayweather.
andrew santino
He's so entertaining.
joe rogan
I love the fact this guy is almost 50 years old and he's still taking pictures with all his watches.
When I go on a trip for 10 days, I bring 10 watches.
If I go on a trip for 20 days, I'll bring 10 more watches.
If it's a 30 day trip, I'll bring out the biggest of the big.
And he pulls out like this fucking million dollar watch is covered in diamonds.
It's fucking insane.
andrew santino
But he was on a thing.
There was like an interview where they were like, how much is that watch worth?
And he's like, $500,000.
And they were like, well, and he's like, I don't know if that was what it was.
But then he's like, I made 5 million today.
And they're like, really?
He's like, today, just now.
I think I made 5 million dollars.
He's such an entertainer.
It doesn't even matter what's true or not.
unidentified
It's fun.
joe rogan
Look at all that.
But it's also what he can do as an athlete.
I mean, the fact that the guy is still making millions and millions of dollars fighting people who have no business fighting him, including Logan Paul.
He fights a guy that's 200 pounds, a young, big, brutish athlete.
He's a big fella.
I mean, he's 200 plus.
andrew santino
I would say 220. He's a big kid.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't know what he had to weigh in at.
I don't know what the deal was.
But Floyd never fought more than 154 in his life.
He's not a big guy.
He never fought middleweight or light heavyweight.
Certainly didn't fight a heavyweight.
andrew santino
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Logan was huge!
When you see the two of them in the ring together, you're like, oh my god, this is crazy!
andrew santino
What'd he say?
jamie vernon
190, basically.
189.5.
joe rogan
Floyd Wade, 155. And Logan Wade, 190. I'll tell you, I stood next to that kid.
unidentified
Wow.
andrew santino
I went and did his show.
joe rogan
Why does it say 189, 1.5?
I don't know.
unidentified
189. It must be 189. Yeah, I think the way that they got the one, they just missed four minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah, 189.5.
Which is, he probably had to dry himself out to make that way.
He's bigger than that.
andrew santino
Yeah.
When I stood next to him, he's a big kid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew santino
Like, he's big.
joe rogan
The fact that Floyd, obviously, he's not nearly as skilled as Floyd Mayweather.
andrew santino
Oh, but it's a different world.
joe rogan
But the fact that Floyd Mayweather said, fuck it, I'll fight that big dude.
Did you ever see when Shaq fought Oscar De La Hoya?
Look at the size difference.
The size difference is fucking insane.
But that's Floyd.
I mean, and I don't know how much money he made from that, but I think he still owes Logan Paul money.
Yeah, there's some sort of a lawsuit.
I don't know if it's a dispute.
I don't know who's right.
But there is some sort of a lawsuit where he claims that he still owes millions of dollars.
andrew santino
I like the word dispute.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
With promotions and stuff like that, is it based on pay-per-view points?
Were you promised a certain amount?
You didn't get it?
Did they not sell as many pay-per-views as they thought they were?
I don't know how that all works.
andrew santino
I want to just tell you this, because you said that, it reminded me, my childhood best friend told me a story one time, he was on the train in Chicago, and this guy sees a guy, he recognizes from across the train, He's like, yo!
What the fuck is up?
And they're yelling across people.
He goes, what the fuck is up with you?
And he's like, not the man!
And they're chatting across the train.
My buddy said he was standing in between them.
And they're yelling over people.
And the one guy goes, hey man, how's...
Whatever his name.
How's Marco?
And the other guy goes, he's dead.
And he goes, damn!
What happened to him?
And the other guy goes, it was a dispute.
And he was like, all word?
unidentified
Okay.
andrew santino
Like the most generic, like, it was a dispute.
And he understood it.
He was like, uh-huh.
joe rogan
That's a good way to handle that.
andrew santino
Ask no more questions.
It was a dispute.
joe rogan
That's a funny way that you would only talk in a crowded room and you're yelling over people.
andrew santino
He's not going to give any more information.
He was like, it was a dispute.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew santino
He no longer is with us.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's interesting that it didn't go towards each other.
andrew santino
No, dude.
They're on a crowded ass train.
They just were fucking yelling at each other.
I just think that city culture that I do love, that I'm missing, that's why I want to go somewhere else.
I like the fucking buzz.
I like being annoyed.
I like...
joe rogan
Schultz does too.
andrew santino
I like being annoyed.
joe rogan
Schultz told me that when he went to Miami, he was worried he was going to get soft.
andrew santino
It's boring.
joe rogan
They had too much fun down there.
andrew santino
Oh, it's just boring.
It's almost like there is no...
LA is that to me too now.
It's like...
Yeah, there's not enough humming.
I want more hum.
I want more of a hum.
I just want to feel the hum of people and bullshit and be pissed off and...
joe rogan
Are you going to hop around and go from club to club?
Do like five sets a night?
andrew santino
Well, I think, you know, look, the cellar's been really good to me.
And so I definitely will go over there for sure.
The stand, I've popped in a few times.
You know, I'm not filled in enough about where I need to be going.
So I'll figure it out.
But the cellar's always been really good to me.
joe rogan
That's exciting.
andrew santino
Yeah, man, I'm excited.
joe rogan
I like it.
I like the idea.
andrew santino
Me too, babe.
joe rogan
Ari needs a buddy too.
andrew santino
Yeah, he does.
joe rogan
He needs new friends.
He needs a sensible friend.
andrew santino
He can't just talk to his fucking dog all day.
joe rogan
He makes out with his dog.
You ever see that?
andrew santino
Yeah, I don't like that shit.
joe rogan
It's gross.
andrew santino
I've had conversations.
joe rogan
He does it in front of you.
He does it on the air.
He did it during the podcast.
andrew santino
Weird white people shit.
Letting your dog lick your mouth.
I don't like that.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
He encourages it.
andrew santino
I'll hug my dog.
I love my dog.
Doesn't lick my mouth.
joe rogan
My dog gives me kisses, but they're on my face.
andrew santino
Yeah, in my mouth.
He opens his mouth like a psycho and lets it lick the roof of his mouth.
And he thinks it's funny.
And I kind of want him to get really sick.
unidentified
This dog's going to be eating shit in a park somewhere.
andrew santino
I want him to get some bacteria from the park in his mouth.
joe rogan
I read about a lady who had to get her arm amputated because her dog licked her and she got madly infected.
andrew santino
Yeah, but don't let it lick your open orifice.
I think last time I did the podcast, which was a while ago, we watched that woman...
Who let the wolves lick her mouth.
Do you remember that woman?
That fucking crazy woman.
She would like open her mouth and wolves would like...
This is wild.
joe rogan
You know she lets those wolves fuck her.
andrew santino
Hell yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Hell yeah.
Woman has her hands and legs amputated after a dog licks her.
The symptoms are so rapid in progression there was nothing they could do, family says.
andrew santino
Except tell her to stop letting dogs lick her fucking mouth.
You could do that.
This is a PSA. I don't think it was her mouth.
joe rogan
They didn't cut her head off.
I don't think it was her arms.
andrew santino
Yeah, but how does it infect you?
unidentified
I don't know, man.
andrew santino
Just saliva?
It's got to get in.
joe rogan
Yeah, it has to be some toxic shit in the dog's saliva.
andrew santino
Just on her skin, that's all it was.
joe rogan
Well, think about it.
What if a dog goes out and...
Dogs can eat all kinds of stuff.
andrew santino
I know, but this sounds like one of those stories where she doesn't want to tell everyone the truth.
joe rogan
That's a horrible story, man.
andrew santino
They're like, Mary, where did she lick?
She's like, just on my arm.
Just on your arm.
joe rogan
How many women throughout history have put peanut butter on their pussy?
andrew santino
I think an endless amount and we'll never know.
joe rogan
We'll never know.
andrew santino
They'll never admit it.
joe rogan
It probably feels amazing.
unidentified
If you had a clit and the dog was licking it, it probably feels amazing.
andrew santino
I love it.
joe rogan
You know?
andrew santino
Probably feels really good.
joe rogan
Because it's so muscular and big, the tongue is enormous.
Slop, slop.
Especially you got like a Rottweiler.
andrew santino
Yeah.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
They probably...
Oh my god, the dog doesn't know anything's wrong, you know?
No victims.
andrew santino
Someone at PETA right now is...
joe rogan
There's no victim!
andrew santino
Losing their mind.
joe rogan
Dog likes peanut butter, you like getting your pussy licked.
What the fuck's the problem?
andrew santino
What are you gonna do?
joe rogan
What are you gonna do about that?
Andrew Santino, I think we did more than three hours.
andrew santino
We did, I think.
joe rogan
Where we at?
unidentified
Hmm?
jamie vernon
Yes.
andrew santino
Well, I love you, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
I love you, too, buddy.
And Cheeseburger.
It's available right now on Netflix.
It's fucking hilarious.
Your new shit is hilarious, too.
andrew santino
Thank you, man.
joe rogan
The new shit you did last night.
Very funny.
andrew santino
Thanks for having me.
I really appreciate it.
unidentified
You're a fucking man.
joe rogan
I love you to death.
andrew santino
I love you, man.
joe rogan
All right.
Bye, everybody.
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