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Joe Rogan Experience #1902 - Danny Brown
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danny brown
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danny brown
But then you thinking like that, that's like...
joe rogan
That's the curse of being successful though, right?
Like people lean on you.
danny brown
I'm successful but on my own terms.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's still successful.
danny brown
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
On your own terms is great.
danny brown
Because, see, my shit was the music industry.
And the music industry is one of those type of situations where you can be as creative as you want to be, but does that make you money?
You know?
So you have this whole fucking angel and double on your shoulder.
Like, make a hit song or be creative as you want to be.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Do what you want to do or do what you think is going to sell.
danny brown
In my whole entire career, I just did what I wanted to do.
But at this point, after 10 years, I sit back sometime and I think about, like, damn, did I make a mistake?
Because, you know, there's still a lot of people in my family that struggle.
And it's like, fuck, you know?
But if I just didn't care about being Danny Brown and being so cool and trying to make the most experimental music I could possibly make, fucking just don't give a fuck.
Make that fucking hit song.
joe rogan
But isn't that you, though?
danny brown
But I can do it.
joe rogan
You could do both.
danny brown
That's the whole thing of what makes you a great artist.
unidentified
A person like Jay-Z, he does both.
danny brown
I don't know if I can do both because it's such a drastic change from what I love as underground music and what is commercially considered to be pop music.
It's such a drastic change.
It's such a fucking, you know what I'm saying?
So I don't know if I can ever make it.
It's like with Patrice O'Neal.
Would he ever been a fucking, like, you know what I'm saying?
Commercial, like, stand-up comedy.
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
No, I think he would have been.
danny brown
At this point in age?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
We would have forced it through.
Yeah.
danny brown
He would have made it.
That's the one person that I look up to.
joe rogan
He was amazing.
danny brown
I look up him so much.
joe rogan
Everybody would have forced it through.
Even if he couldn't get on a television show, even if nothing ever happened for him like that, we would have all had him on podcasts.
danny brown
Because even with my rap career and just how I look at making music, I look at him as a super inspiration.
My last album, which was called You Know What I'm Saying, which was actually from Time and Christina, because they had this bit.
But we had this bit where they had niggas, and you know niggas be like, you know what I'm saying?
Even me, I say you know what I'm saying like a lot, like a motherfucker.
But before that, the name of the album was the Patrice O'Neill Theory.
joe rogan
Oh.
danny brown
Because Patrice O'Neill, he had this theory where he'd talk about like men has periods.
But we don't necessarily have periods.
We just want to fuck another bitch.
So, every time you're mad at your girl, like, uh, she, like, all on you, and she, like, uh, you're like, uh, you're like, uh, my woman is beautiful.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, but you're like, bitch, you just want another taste of something.
You get what I'm saying?
Like it's to the point where if you've been so faithful for so long, you're like, I'll fuck a homeless bitch on the corner.
You get what I'm saying?
But if I did, it's going to make me love you so much more.
Like I won't have this attitude with you, this whole attitude I got with you.
You think, why are you so bad?
Why are you acting like this?
Because I need some new pussy.
And that's all it is.
joe rogan
The Patrice O'Neal theory.
danny brown
That's the Patrice O'Neal theory.
joe rogan
He had a lot of great theories.
danny brown
But I would say, listen, I'm going to say this because I love my girl at home.
I know she probably listens to this.
unidentified
I love you, baby.
danny brown
But no, I'm out of that.
I don't have that.
Don't get hurt like that no more.
I'm 40 years old.
It's like, come on, this motherfucker's been burnt out.
They've been hitting this motherfucker.
It's been speedbagging this dick.
This dick's been getting speedbagged for the last 10 years.
joe rogan
When did you decide to do this podcast that you're doing with your mom's house?
Because it's hilarious.
danny brown
No, the thing was that...
Oh, you know Uncle Joey.
joe rogan
He started?
danny brown
No, you want me to bring it?
Because it goes back into me just being a rapper, and just me being on some rap shit, and I was on tour.
I was on tour for a long part of time, and being on tour, you get bored, and I'm a gamer, so I buy a lot of video games, and guess what?
I bought UFC. Before the good UFCs.
unidentified
This is a whatever UFC video game.
danny brown
So I'm playing that and you were the fucking announcer on it.
So I'm playing that and you're the announcer on the album tour.
And then I guess, I don't know, some type of way I was watching UFC of some shit.
And then I seen you on there and it was like, oh, this the nigga from the video game!
Is this not hilarious to you?
Like, this is how I got up on this whole shit.
So I'm like, this the nigga from the video game!
unidentified
Joe Rogan!
danny brown
So then I started listening to Joe Rogan shit, and then from seeing Joe Rogan shit, I seen Uncle Joey on there.
Then I seen Uncle Joey on there, and I seen that, and I just started going through the fucking, um, the rabbit hole of y'all shit.
Like, even the shit of fucking, uh, fucking Red Band dumbass, always talking about fucking Olive Garden and shit like that, like...
Like the fucking like...
joe rogan
Olive Garden and Butthole.
danny brown
Yeah, like the Justin TV there.
So I've been...
I will credit you to fucking up my fucking music career in some sense.
I will say that.
Because it got to the point where all I did was...
All I ever did in my life was listen to music.
I was one of those people where I would be like, man, people don't really listen to music.
They just listen to music in their cars or when they got function.
I'm the type of person that listens to music 24 seconds a day.
Whatever new.
But then I started getting into podcasting and listening to your shit and doing that and all that.
So...
I'm just being into podcasting and listening to y'all shit.
You know, fucking Uncle Joey and all that shit.
And then I got into why I made shit, listening to they shit.
And then, you know, just time hit me up.
Like, come through.
But when time hit me up, he didn't know how much of a fanboy I was or the shit.
So when I came through, I was hitting them with all this shit, you know, all the fucking Wyoming shit, like, you know, straight real mommy shit.
You get what I'm saying?
unidentified
Jeans.
danny brown
Yeah, so the jeans, so that's what happened.
The jeans, the whole, the fan base of the whole shit fucked with me.
They knew I was, like, real in the shit, so...
They embrace me with that shit.
So, Tom would always hit me up and talk about it.
He'd be like, man...
Because me and Tom would FaceTime and talk to each other.
Some real friend shit.
Ain't had nothing to do with no business or nothing else.
And Tom would be like, man, you should do a podcast.
I'm telling you, you'll be good at doing podcasts.
joe rogan
I'm glad he told you that.
danny brown
And this and that.
But my whole shit was with him and I was like, man, no...
Being good at podcasts is good, but the actual production of it, which makes podcasts good.
Because I can set up a fucking camera and a fucking microphone in my bedroom and start talking shit in front of the camera, but is that going to be good?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Danny, it would be good.
danny brown
But I was like, no.
joe rogan
Listen, all of it's good.
It just captures you.
It's nice to have great production, and the way they do it at your mom's house is awesome.
You have a real professional studio.
I went over there and visited.
danny brown
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's beautiful.
The whole setup is beautiful.
danny brown
But that's my whole shit.
I was like, I'm not going to do it unless it's like that.
joe rogan
But you can do it on FaceTime.
It doesn't matter.
danny brown
I know, but I was like...
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
You're just good at it.
Because you're a fan of podcasts for so long, I think you were probably talking back in your head.
danny brown
Yeah, like it gotta be big.
It gotta be like, it gotta look professional.
It can be, it can be fucking, but see, this is the double-edged sword with that with me.
Because what I loved about podcasting was like, I was almost like a fly on the wall against seeing like friends just hanging out drinking and talking shit.
joe rogan
Right.
danny brown
And now when you watch podcasting, it's so fucking overproduced.
unidentified
I heard that these niggas is writing scripts now.
joe rogan
No.
danny brown
I swear I heard some shit like that where they said these niggas got scripts and they looking at them on a Trello prompter and they sitting there doing podcasts.
They doing scripted podcasts.
Podcasts are supposed to be like you just a fly on the wall sitting there in a room with a couple friends and you hearing them talking shit and you like that's why we love fucking Rogan so much.
You get what I'm saying?
In the beginning stages of now this is some real shit.
You know what I'm saying?
But in the beginning stages of the shit like no we're a fly on the wall but The point of that that has turned to what media is in real life now.
It makes so much sense when you got fucking, we went through reality TV so much.
Now, motherfuckers that play video games watch other motherfuckers that play video games for fun.
joe rogan
Danny, I had a bit a long time ago about a cameraman from a reality TV show getting his own reality TV show.
So the reality TV show was about a cameraman following around a cameraman on a reality TV show.
And then I go, but then people are going to go, well, what about the cameraman behind the cameraman?
And then they're going to do a cameraman show on that.
danny brown
I would love to see, me and my fucked up brain, I would love to see that show, but it had to be like the niggas that shoot porn, though.
I want to know about the porn cameramen.
joe rogan
Porn cameramen?
danny brown
Yeah.
He a little creepy, too.
He a little creepy.
How you get that job?
You just looking for it?
Because I feel like a cameraman is such a vast.
Nigga, you shooting for the NBA or you shooting for the motherfucking anal projections?
What are you doing?
You get what I'm saying?
So you pick at your poison.
unidentified
Yeah, you could be a professional and work for both.
danny brown
I mean, no.
At the end of the day, what I will say that's good about the cameraman shit is that, just like everything else with DJing, everything that comes with the internet, everything, or even like production equipment, all this shit has become so...
Easy to use.
Back in the day, I couldn't go on YouTube and find an instruction manual on how to use an MPC. You know, Jamie's an audio engineer, like a real audio engineer.
joe rogan
Who went to school for it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I did go to school.
There was no YouTube for it.
And then the year I graduated, YouTube got invented.
joe rogan
How much of what you learned in school is still valid?
jamie vernon
It's hard to say, because there's even some of the computer programs, they don't edit for you, but they handle a lot of the shit that was difficult.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
danny brown
You want to hear the fucked up part that I think about is that it's better in this sense, because you get a lot of different point of views.
If I'm a nigga that I'm trying to learn some shit on YouTube, and it's a topic that has a lot of different people that's talking about it, I'm taking the best parts of or whatever identifies on me.
I'm like, oh, I'm figuring that shit out and do that like that instead of just learning from one person.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Oh, you know, I just started.
I've joined a Muay Thai gym.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
Where at?
I suck.
danny brown
Shouts out to all my boys at fucking Ogre Muay Thai.
Shouts out to my boy Spencer, my boy Dave, all my motherfuckers.
Chantel, Autumn.
Yeah, no, I suck.
I actually suck.
That's okay.
joe rogan
Everybody sucks in the beginning.
danny brown
No, I'm chilling out right now.
I'll probably go back in a few months.
joe rogan
Yeah?
But you were doing it?
danny brown
No, I've been three, four months hard.
joe rogan
Yeah?
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's good for you, man.
It's great to get tension out, too.
danny brown
Yeah, but it's one of those things, you know, yeah, but I didn't know that part, though, because I was doing privates, and that was fun, you know, learning shit.
joe rogan
Private's good.
danny brown
Then I was like, you know what?
Let me go to real class.
Start going to real class.
joe rogan
Oh, and sparring with people and shit?
danny brown
No, pad holding.
joe rogan
Oh.
danny brown
My nigga.
I ain't signing for that job.
joe rogan
Holding the pads for people's bullshit.
danny brown
Bro, I ain't signing for that job.
So I haven't been back.
I actually haven't been back.
No, I mean, we're going through a lot of shit.
You know why I haven't been back to Muay Thai?
I don't even know.
But I guess I'm talking about it.
But no, we was in class one day.
Shouts of my nigga Spencer, man.
We was in class one day.
And then this nigga was like, oh, you know what it is?
Because I didn't have no Muay Thai shorts.
So I was just like, you know, I was wearing my normal, like, regular shorts.
I'm wearing, like, Gucci shorts and shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny brown
The whole gym looking at me crazy.
So I'm going to buy some Muay Thai shorts.
And you know me, I'm a nigga.
unidentified
I'm going to buy some fly shit.
danny brown
So I bought the shiniest Muay Thai shorts I could find.
Them motherfuckers look like gold.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, these bitches fire though.
You know what I'm saying?
I got the fire Muay Thai shorts.
joe rogan
What do they look like?
You have a picture of them?
danny brown
I mean, I can show you.
Yeah, show me a picture.
Just the gold shiny Muay Thai.
But I show it to the Muay Thai.
But I think he felt...
You know what that made me feel like?
It was like when a nigga suck at basketball.
And then he show up with the whole Jordan fit on.
With the Jordan and the iris and sleeve.
So I felt like that's what Muay Thai was looking at me like at that point.
But I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes.
This is my first time buying some Muay Thai shit.
I'm an ill nigga.
I love fashion.
So I'm going to buy some black shit.
What you want me to buy?
Some normal fake ass shit?
So, during the class...
joe rogan
Yeah, I think I'll let that go.
danny brown
Yeah, so one of the teachers, she was like, you know, you got these shiny ass shorts on, you worried about the wrong shit.
And I thought to myself...
joe rogan
Why would anybody care?
It's fucking shorts.
danny brown
But I thought to myself, and I was like, you know what?
You right.
I am worried about the wrong shit.
Why am I here playing Bruce Leroy with y'all niggas?
And I got to put a fucking album out.
So I haven't been to Muay Thai since.
unidentified
I've been at the crib trying to finish my...
danny brown
When I get back, and I thought about it too, because the way it started is because I will always talk about on my podcast how I got my ass whooped before, and he hit me up and was like, yo, you tired of getting your ass whooped?
Come to Muay Thai class.
And not necessarily me.
I'm just trying to get in shape.
I just don't want to, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
I don't want to be fat, you know.
joe rogan
But that's a good thing for getting in shape.
danny brown
It's the funnest thing to get in shape, hitting pads and all that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're learning something that's fun.
It was great.
And it's tiring.
danny brown
No, it was great.
It was actually great.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like the best way to get a cardio in because it's actually fun to do.
Whereas, like, a lot of cardio is just suck.
It's just getting through the suck, like an assault bike.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's just getting through suck.
danny brown
No, no.
I was actually having a great time.
I was having fun.
So, yeah.
So, I haven't been ever since that episode.
unidentified
Gotta go back.
joe rogan
And they gotta let that go.
They gotta let that shit go.
danny brown
I was hanging with...
joe rogan
You're Danny Brown.
You should be allowed to wear whatever fucking shorts you want.
unidentified
That's one thing I thought about, too, though!
joe rogan
That's what you're supposed to be.
danny brown
But you know they sell their own shit, too, so maybe you feel like I was bad out of anybody.
joe rogan
They gotta let that shit go.
All that shit they have in their head about what kind of fucking shorts you have, who gives a shit?
danny brown
But part two, I just looked at it like I never joined this situation as me trying to fight a nigga.
joe rogan
They're shorts.
danny brown
No, I'm saying, I get it.
joe rogan
They're just shorts.
danny brown
No, I get it, because even one time we had a conversation, they was like, man, you gotta know how to protect yourself, and this and that.
unidentified
I'm like...
danny brown
Nigga, if I hit a nigga, I'm gonna get sued.
And part two, if a nigga hit me, I'm gonna shoot this nigga.
Like, guns...
Y'all forget that guns exist and we live in Texas.
I don't give a fuck about how many elbows you throw.
unidentified
There's niggas with big-ass guns!
danny brown
Especially in...
The climate, the situation that I live in, it's not like, you get what I'm saying?
Like, bro, so, me doing more trial, having, that was literally, I'm 40 years old.
I'm not about to fucking fight nobody.
joe rogan
I would never think that you would.
But, I think everybody should learn at least some understanding of martial arts.
danny brown
Let me say this.
joe rogan
Be good for everybody.
danny brown
One thing it did for me, and I don't want to talk, I hate this, but I had to say, because I will forget, that's my fucked up brain.
I know podcasts are like, oh, you don't talk about them motherfuckers.
But I'm sorry.
But if I don't say it, I'll forget it.
But it humbled the fuck out of me.
Because I'm the type of motherfucker, I talk shit.
Like, I get drunk.
Like, nigga, what's up, nigga?
What the fuck, nigga?
You know what I'm saying?
Nigga, what?
Nigga, I've seen people, nigga, nurses.
Women 5'3", 140 pounds, kicking a bag, you look like, nigga!
unidentified
If she hit me with one of these, it's a wrap!
danny brown
You get what I'm saying?
So, it humbled the fuck out of me.
And it made me know that I would never...
I never want to fight anyone in my life.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like everything else.
It looks way easier than it is.
If you're watching the UFC, and you're watching Israel Adesanya versus Alex Pajera, and you're watching the best in the world, and you think, if somebody fucks with me, I'm gonna do something to them.
Like, you have no idea how far that gap is.
It's humbling, because a girl's walking around with 140 pounds, right?
So that means her muscles and her legs are carrying 140 pounds everywhere she goes.
If she kicks you in the head, you're going unconscious.
danny brown
So yeah, that's what's been happening with my Muay Thai gym.
That's why I haven't been back to Muay Thai.
It's good, though.
joe rogan
That whole thing's good.
unidentified
And it's crazy.
danny brown
Actually, fucking Tony, they had a party for the Adesanya prayer fight.
joe rogan
Oh, did they?
danny brown
And he hit me up.
Tony's like, come through, pull up, pull up.
But I was sad about the Muay Thai shit.
joe rogan
But still?
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it turned you off to martial arts?
danny brown
No, no.
12th Planet.
10th Planet.
joe rogan
10th Planet.
danny brown
I know him.
joe rogan
What?
danny brown
They around the corner, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Yeah, he was just saying, just go over there.
joe rogan
Well, that's a good place, too.
You don't have to go to the same gym.
danny brown
No, as I'm saying, I might- Go to someone who respects your shorts.
I might have to switch gyms.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Go to someone who respects your shorts.
danny brown
Because I'm Denny Brown.
I can't be fucking wearing no bullshit.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
Whoever's running that gym, let it go.
danny brown
No, no.
Part two is not the person that's ready to go.
joe rogan
Bro, Dennis Rodman shows up at your gym.
You gonna tell him what fucking shorts he can wear?
danny brown
You're right.
unidentified
You can't.
danny brown
And guess what?
This is my first time buying, so it made me feel bad.
You know how it is when you're trying to be cool?
Because I didn't have no Muay Thai clothes.
I've been wearing just regular shorts, pulling up.
I never would wear their gym shit.
This is the first time I wore the gym t-shirt to the gym.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
This nigga's like, you worried about the wrong shit.
You trying to look cool to do Muay Thai.
joe rogan
This is bad motherfucker.
danny brown
And you suck at Muay Thai.
And it's like, bro.
I joined Muay Thai to get in shape.
So that's what happened.
Like I said, I haven't been doing Muay Thai.
I've been going to a normal gym, just doing normal shit, getting in shape.
joe rogan
Well, that's good, too, but they need to respect the shorts.
There's this dude named Badr Hari.
He's still an active kickboxer, but at one point in time, he was one of the best in the world, if not the best, in the heavyweight division, and he would fight golf shorts on.
danny brown
I've been watching a lot of One.
joe rogan
Oh, One Championship?
danny brown
Yeah, Rod Tang.
unidentified
That dude's a beast.
danny brown
I like that because they have the just straight Muay Thai fights and shit like that, so I like watching their shit.
joe rogan
Did you see when Rod Tang fought Mighty Mouse?
danny brown
Yeah, Mighty Mouse whooped his ass.
Yeah, they had a mixed fight.
It was one round, missed one round.
Mighty Mouse fucked him up.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Mighty Mouse got through the first round and landed some good shots.
danny brown
I look up to Mighty Mouse so much, man.
joe rogan
He's so good.
He's so good.
danny brown
Like, I look at...
I know it's like weird.
I mean, because I don't like...
I mean, a lot of people feel like shit like race baiting and shit like that.
But you got to think like martial arts and like urban communities are not like...
It's not like...
It's not a fucking Muay Thai gym up the street.
joe rogan
Right.
danny brown
So for a person to be from the hood and to be like, man, I want to, you know, get into that shit and get to fighting.
Because niggas fight every day.
Niggas do all type of shit.
It's actually...
I guess for the most part, it would be boxing.
joe rogan
Boxing is easier to get into, but jujitsu is expensive.
danny brown
Because even me, I can't lie, was always like Kronk.
Like me being from Detroit, it always was boxing gyms around.
That I could, if I wanted to, I could have gotten shit.
joe rogan
Did you ever go into Kronk?
danny brown
Fuck no!
unidentified
No?
danny brown
Yo, look at me, man!
joe rogan
I know, but just to look around, man, that place is so legendary.
danny brown
Let me bring it down to you, man.
joe rogan
Emmanuel Stewart, Tommy Hearns.
danny brown
It's different type of people in life, man.
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
You one of them type of niggas, you was always about the muscles and kicking niggas.
And some niggas, bro, some niggas don't care about this, and all they care about is what?
The clothes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
So I was always a fashion guy.
Right.
Like, think about it.
joe rogan
I get it.
danny brown
You never was a fashion guy.
joe rogan
Nope.
danny brown
See?
joe rogan
Look at me now, wear a fanny pack.
danny brown
Don't that sound fucked up, though?
joe rogan
No, it doesn't sound fucked up to me at all.
danny brown
No, because, no, I'm saying.
joe rogan
I could get it.
danny brown
No, that's the thing.
joe rogan
I could understand it.
danny brown
But that's the thing about it.
It's like, people that work out, I got this muscle-ass body, I can take my shirt off and show you how I look.
But then there's some niggas that's like, no, what, this shirt you took off?
That was some bullshit.
joe rogan
The shirt I took off?
unidentified
Yeah, that was some bullshit.
What was that shirt?
Oh, no, nigga.
That ain't no Kiko Koshinov.
That ain't no motherfucker.
joe rogan
You didn't like my shirt?
danny brown
No, it's not what I'm saying.
It's just fashion.
joe rogan
But this is Roots of Fight.
danny brown
When you got muscles.
joe rogan
This is an old smoking Joe Frazier.
danny brown
See, Joe, you're not even giving up.
joe rogan
This is from like one of his fights.
danny brown
When you got muscles, niggas don't care what kind of clothes you wear.
joe rogan
I know, but this to me, this is like artwork.
This is the advertisement for Smoke and Joe Frazier's fight from 1971. Come on, man.
danny brown
Shut up.
This would be a great vintage pickup for me.
I will buy this.
I will buy this.
So that was fashionable.
joe rogan
I'll get it for you.
danny brown
We're not making it like that, but I'm trying to tell you, it's some people...
It's people...
unidentified
No, it's people...
danny brown
No, I'm telling you!
It's people in this world that are like, all I gotta do...
I don't have to look muscular.
I don't have to...
All I gotta do is stay this certain size to be able to fit this certain type of clothing.
See, that's what y'all are, niggas.
joe rogan
No, but I get it.
I get it, because there's people that work out...
danny brown
But they ain't working out how to do that.
They just doing coke and not eating.
joe rogan
There's people that work out that also do that.
They also get into fashion.
danny brown
I just don't give a fuck.
No, it sucks.
joe rogan
I just don't give a fuck.
I appreciate it.
Like, when I see people that are into it, I appreciate it.
I don't not like it.
Like, when I see someone that has great style, you have great style.
Brendan Schaub has great style.
danny brown
No, he doesn't.
joe rogan
I think he does.
I like the way he dresses.
I think he looks cool.
I don't do it.
But I like it.
I like when people put a little effort in.
I like it.
But I don't put any effort in.
danny brown
No, that's just me.
That's what I just told you.
joe rogan
It's not because I have muscles.
danny brown
It's because I'm busy.
And then you don't got waves.
joe rogan
I'm busy.
I don't have anything, man.
I don't have anything, man.
I got bald, stupid head.
danny brown
But no, no.
joe rogan
But I like when people are into it.
I don't like to see a guy who dresses nice and go, look at this fucking idiot.
danny brown
I think it looks good.
What I was saying to say is, that's like a defense mechanism for a lot of people.
Where they feel like, if I'm just good enough shape to look good in the clothes that I want to wear, that's good enough.
I don't have to be muscular.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's also, it shows that this is what you care about more.
Aesthetics and style and cool shit.
You know?
Cool shit.
danny brown
God damn it.
You want to hit me with the fucking fire?
joe rogan
Nice clothes are cool shit.
danny brown
That's all I care about.
joe rogan
I know you do.
danny brown
But you know what's fucked up about me?
I think where I'm at this point in my life.
Where I'm at.
God damn it, Daniel.
You gotta grow up.
Because I lived my entire life as a teenager.
joe rogan
I would try to hold that back.
If you and I were closer, I would try to tell you to not grow up and just stay who you are.
danny brown
You have to have money to not grow up.
joe rogan
I think you could get both.
I mean, I've done good with myself.
I know you have, but when I watch your podcast, I'm like, this dude has a fucking hilarious podcast.
Me and Tom talked about it on the phone.
I called him up.
I go, dude, Danny Brown kills me.
I go, I watch that show all the time.
He goes, you're so good.
And I go, isn't it amazing that someone could just jump into podcasting?
But now I get it, because you were always a fan of listening to podcasts.
So you were kind of talking.
You were kind of having those conversations in your head.
danny brown
No, and you want to hear some other real shit, too?
My entire musical career, it wouldn't have been what it was if I didn't do interviews.
joe rogan
How's that?
danny brown
My music is one thing.
You know what I'm saying?
But when you meet me and talk to me, people like that more than they like my music.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
So like your personality goes along.
danny brown
And it sells the music.
unidentified
And then once you like me, then you're like, oh, I like his music a little bit.
danny brown
You know what I'm saying?
So I think that's what it is.
joe rogan
That's the same for comics with podcasts.
Oh yeah, definitely.
danny brown
I see a lot of hated comics that get a lot of views and doing good for themselves.
Like Hate Watch.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know, man.
There's a lot of recreational outrage.
But I think for the most part, if you get better and you keep doing it...
danny brown
I like the way he dresses.
joe rogan
I think he dresses good.
Listen, I'm wearing a hoodie.
I dress terrible.
But we did get dressed up.
I did a show with Tony Hinchcliffe, Brian Simpson.
And Hans Kim at the MGM. Those are all my homies.
danny brown
Those are all my homies.
joe rogan
We got David August to design suits for us.
So they were custom-made suits.
You want to see this shit?
Look at this picture.
I'm going to show you some.
danny brown
No, yeah, show me some shit.
No, I did some.
joe rogan
Listen, I'm not always gross.
danny brown
No, I never thought about that!
joe rogan
I don't mean it that way.
But I mean, most of the time, I just don't give a fuck about what I'm wearing.
I wear what I like to wear.
What looks comfortable for me.
danny brown
Let me tell you like this.
joe rogan
I like this shirt.
danny brown
If you was to hop on some fashion shit and show up with a crazy fucking Gucci shirt on or something like that, I would judge you way more than anything else.
Of course!
joe rogan
Then you're trying hard.
danny brown
You know, the thing is, with me, it's fashion is about us being, I mean, we won't be in race in urban communities, but, you know, they say, like, black people, when you broke, you don't gotta like that.
So you just want to kind of look like you gotta like that.
joe rogan
No, I completely get it.
That's with Italians as well.
It's very similar with my family.
danny brown
So that's all it is.
In my whole fashion, bro, fashion fucked up my school.
I fucked up my life.
How?
Because I would skip school all the time just to go buy clothes.
joe rogan
Really?
danny brown
Yes.
Hudson's.
Oh, see, it's not called Hudson's anymore.
Oh, Hudson's to what people would be, it would be Macy's.
So Macy's had a clearance sale.
The clearance sale was happening on Tuesday.
All me and my fashion buddies, we know, on Tuesday.
Macy's having a clearance sale.
We show up in front of the school like gangbanging, like we about to go do some ill shit.
But no, we literally just trying to go buy a $40 polo.
None of us have money like that.
We are high school kids.
The most somebody probably have on them is $300 at the most.
You get what I'm saying?
But you can go Armani Exchange.
I remember I caught an Armani Exchange t-shirt for like $25.
But when I looked on the tag, it was like $125.
It's like, ugh.
Shit like that was like going back home.
I'm about to wear this tomorrow.
I'm about to kill shit.
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
No one gave a fuck.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
danny brown
No one gave a fuck, but it's just...
So, yeah.
But even...
joe rogan
So the clothes represented something to you that was, like, unattainable.
Represented cool shit that was...
danny brown
Oh, yeah.
Even now, to this day, like, me doing a podcast, I still bring something from school.
Like, if niggas want to watch the podcast, I haven't worn the same shirt twice.
unidentified
Really?
danny brown
No.
joe rogan
So you thought...
danny brown
So I'm buying shirts every week.
Like, oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Tell everybody, like, you thought the podcast was going to be tomorrow, and you had some shit prepared.
danny brown
Oh, no, I had an ill-ass...
Oh, I got this ill-ass fucking...
Part two, I'm glad I didn't, because I feel like people would have seen that.
Like, this nigga trying too hard.
No, part two, so I think God did it for a reason.
unidentified
Maybe.
danny brown
Because I probably shouldn't have been on here like that, because I did.
joe rogan
What were you going to wear?
danny brown
No, I got this leather jacket, a new leather jacket.
It got spikes and shit on them.
joe rogan
Will you please wear it the next time you come on?
danny brown
Oh, I'm coming back.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
unidentified
You heard him say it.
joe rogan
100%.
unidentified
I'm back, I'm back.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, 100%.
danny brown
But no, no, but I'm glad it happened like this, because I actually was kind of stressed out about it.
joe rogan
I do seriously enjoy people that dress nice.
For me, it's like I enjoy flowers, but I'm not planting any.
danny brown
My dressing nice, I don't think you would consider it to be dressed nice.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Let me see.
That's us.
Come on, son.
We look good.
danny brown
Look at Hans Kim.
joe rogan
Look at Hans Kim.
Young Jamie.
unidentified
With the fucking sunglasses at night.
joe rogan
That's how high we were.
danny brown
What was this?
joe rogan
That was at the MGM in Vegas.
We all did the MGM arena.
danny brown
Oh, Vegas.
I have so many bad memories of Vegas.
I never leave my hotel in Vegas.
joe rogan
Really?
danny brown
No, every time I've been in Vegas, I've just been there and I just do what I got going on.
joe rogan
You gamble?
Do you gamble at all?
danny brown
No, I don't gamble.
But I do gamble to lose money.
joe rogan
You want to lose money?
danny brown
No.
That's the way I gamble.
joe rogan
Oh, you gamble wild.
danny brown
Yeah, with no intentions of winning.
So let's just say, like, if I go to Vegas, I'll be like, alright, I'm gonna get a thousand out.
And I just wild out with a little thousand dollars.
Once I lose my thousand dollars, that's a wrap.
I ain't doing nothing else.
joe rogan
I played blackjack with my wife.
We were in town for something, and we played blackjack for like an hour.
And I said, alright, I have like 400 bucks on me.
I go, let's just try that.
It was gone in like a half an hour.
I'm not even aggressively betting.
I'm just terrible.
I don't have any desire, you know?
danny brown
No, that's the whole thing with me.
Last time I was in Vegas, I'm like, alright, it's time for me to go.
So I'm like, fuck it, let me just throw a little dollar in.
It's time for the go.
I'm gonna fucking hit it.
joe rogan
Oh no, then you're hooked.
You see what Drake's been doing?
danny brown
Look, so listen, this is the fucked up part of me.
I get it all, I run it on a roulette table.
I run it all the way up to like 10 racks.
I put 10 racks on one number.
joe rogan
No.
Oh my god.
danny brown
I started with 100. So my whole shit was like, you know, whatever.
So I put the 10 racks on the whole...
Obviously I lose.
joe rogan
They count on that.
That's the whole game.
danny brown
So obviously I lose.
I lose to Tim Rex.
I'm so pissed.
So I just leave.
I'm just so pissed.
Just leave out.
But I left my wallet, my phone.
I'm over here at the airport now.
Time to board my flight.
joe rogan
Oh no.
danny brown
I don't got shit.
unidentified
Now I gotta go all the way back to the casino.
danny brown
I get back and guess what?
My shit's sitting on the table.
unidentified
Right there.
joe rogan
No one ever even touched it.
danny brown
No one ever even came to this fucking table.
So I get that.
joe rogan
That's lucky.
danny brown
What you think I'd do?
joe rogan
What did God do?
danny brown
What did I do?
joe rogan
What did you do?
danny brown
I was looking for revenge.
joe rogan
You went back in.
danny brown
I said fuck the flight.
joe rogan
Fuck the flight.
danny brown
And went to the ATM, grabbed some cash out.
joe rogan
How much did you wind up down?
danny brown
Oh, $5,000.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
You know many stories Vegas has like that?
danny brown
No, and that was...
How you do this?
And that was broke for me.
That ain't no real money.
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Put it to the top.
danny brown
Oh, shit.
But yeah.
You got me.
joe rogan
They got you.
They'll get you.
The only thing that I like to bet on is fights.
The other side.
Flip it to the other side.
And then pull that thing down.
That black thing.
And if you put the one that's on the top.
The little switch.
Yeah.
But just pull that down.
Pull it down.
There you go.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's the reason why they're so big.
They're not big because they lose money.
These fucking giant places run out of juice.
Yeah, I'll fill that thing up.
My bad.
I've met too many people that were gambling addicts.
I used to play a lot of pool.
I was always around these dudes that were hardcore gambling addicts.
They would gamble on pool.
They would gamble on playing poker.
They would all do off-track betting.
Because in New York, you could gamble on horse racing and shit.
Carriage racing.
You could gamble on so many different things.
So the pool hall was where all the gambling junkies hung out.
Gambling scares the shit out of me.
danny brown
Only thing I ever gambled.
We just shoot dice.
joe rogan
To what?
danny brown
Shoot dice.
joe rogan
Oh, shoot dice?
unidentified
Yeah.
danny brown
Yeah, in the bathroom.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Gambling's exciting.
But it should be fucking legal.
The idea that it's not legal in some places to me is so stupid.
danny brown
I mean, sports gambling is one of the things that's...
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Because even...
joe rogan
It's fun.
Sports gambling is fun.
danny brown
I hate to say it, man, but...
The Adesanya fight, I knew he was going to lose.
joe rogan
How could you say that?
He almost won.
danny brown
Just his eyes.
joe rogan
He was three rounds down.
danny brown
I ain't going to lie.
joe rogan
Or three rounds up, rather.
danny brown
Just his eyes.
joe rogan
His eyes.
danny brown
Something about when he was talking.
joe rogan
Come on.
danny brown
And I swear, this is me.
joe rogan
His eyes, this is what his eyes were.
danny brown
No, this is me.
And I bet on a lot of fights and I win a lot.
Yeah?
unidentified
And...
danny brown
But I would say I bet against him on the Cannoneer fight, so I was...
joe rogan
Well, that's a risky fight, too.
danny brown
Yeah, that was a little...
But I thought I was trying to come up.
I was trying to come up.
But this fight, I just kind of felt...
I felt sorry for him, kind of.
Like, I knew it.
Like, just his eyes, the way he looked.
Something about the way he looked and the way...
Even when he walked out.
Just something in his face to me.
I was like, man, this nigga about to lose.
And I wanted to call all my homies and be like, man, bet, bet, bet against...
But I didn't want to lose people money, so I just kept my shit to myself and I was like...
But I honestly felt to myself like, this nigga about to lose.
joe rogan
This is what you're seeing.
You're not seeing that he's thinking he's going to lose or that he's scared to lose.
What you're seeing is the magnitude of the guy he's about to fight.
And that's...
You can't change that.
It doesn't change how a man performs once he's under duress and stress, but you can't ignore the magnitude.
And if you ever go back and watch Mike Tyson fights, this is where you see it the best.
When dudes were walking into that ring to fight Mike Tyson, they looked like they were being executed.
They were going to their death.
They were getting arrested.
They were getting processed.
They had this look in their face like, fuck.
danny brown
Are you saying Israel ain't had that look on his face, do you?
joe rogan
Israel definitely did not have that look on his face.
What he had a look on his face is an understanding of what that fucking guy can do.
danny brown
Of what could happen.
joe rogan
That guy, Alex Paheta.
danny brown
But I've never seen that from him.
I've never seen it.
joe rogan
Because that guy's already knocked him out.
That guy knocked him out.
Bro, that guy's a fucking destroyer.
You gotta understand, like, people are looking at him beating Izzy, right?
But you don't understand, nobody even touches Izzy.
Nobody touches him.
And Pejeta just put him away.
Izzy fights Jan Bohovich, who's the light heavyweight champ.
danny brown
No, even him beating Romero.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
And then him beating Costa.
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Paulo Costa fight, Paulo Costa is a fucking marauder.
danny brown
That nigga don't even need to fight.
joe rogan
So jacked.
danny brown
He just started OnlyFans.
joe rogan
So good looking.
danny brown
Just started OnlyFans.
joe rogan
But that fucking dude just marches people down and smashes them.
He marched down Yoel Romero and he didn't even touch Izzy.
He didn't even touch him.
But that's how good Paheta is.
He's that good.
danny brown
No, I'm definitely terrified.
See, that's one thing.
That's what I was saying.
Me just fucking with the Muay Thai class and shit.
joe rogan
Dude, I was trying to warn people.
danny brown
Because a lot of times, I get drunk.
I talk shit.
joe rogan
Of course you do.
danny brown
I talk shit to people.
joe rogan
Now, imagine talking shit to a guy like Paheta.
danny brown
But no, even that.
Imagine talking shit to a fucking nurse.
unidentified
Fucking secretary that's been taking Muay Thai for three years.
danny brown
You don't even know this bitch do anything.
And that's what I seen.
They actually had a stamp fair tag.
She actually did a session, I mean, a thing at our gym.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
danny brown
And just even seeing her and how small she is and that, like, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Bro, I'm good.
I'm good.
So, I mean, it humbled me.
I will say that.
joe rogan
Well, it's just a little bit of a reality check.
unidentified
The thing is, we live in Texas.
danny brown
Yeah.
All these niggas got guns.
joe rogan
For sure.
danny brown
Everybody got guns.
So it's like, what is...
You can't even...
joe rogan
Listen, no one is ever saying that martial arts are better than having a gun.
No one's ever saying that.
What I'm saying is, just for your own head...
danny brown
Yeah, just...
joe rogan
Just for your own head, it's good to know how to fight.
So if someone gets crazy with you...
You just go, okay.
danny brown
Last time I was in the gym, they was like, well, you know, we was talking about that kind of conversation.
I was like, man, I can't fight nobody.
They're going to sue me.
joe rogan
You don't want to fight somebody.
But what I'm saying is, what if somebody wants to fight you?
danny brown
That's why you got guns.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you don't get to the gun, it's just a good thing.
danny brown
I'm going to have it on me.
joe rogan
I believe you.
danny brown
And especially since we're here and you can have it.
joe rogan
It's a good thing to know.
danny brown
So it makes sense just to have a gun.
Yeah.
Especially as a black man in America.
joe rogan
Do you believe that a well-armed society is a polite society?
danny brown
No.
joe rogan
No?
Not at all?
unidentified
No.
danny brown
Because just me being able to travel and like going to like Europe and shit like that where guns aren't a thing and I see how well-behaved people act because of that simple notion.
Like right now, like what I talked about, like going to Muay Thai, how much that humbled me and being at...
But at the end of the day, I should never have that feeling anyway.
joe rogan
Right.
No one should have that feeling.
danny brown
But the only reason why I have that feeling is because I know guns exist.
And if I have a gun on me, you can't say shit.
I don't give a fuck how much of you.
I'll shoot you, bitch.
Shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Right.
danny brown
But now, in over those countries, it's all about brute strength.
joe rogan
Right.
danny brown
It's knives.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
The knives thing.
danny brown
You gotta be rich to have a gun.
Yeah.
And we over here, we got motherfucking niggas over here making 3D printeds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
I can get a 3D printer heater right now.
joe rogan
They're making ghost guns.
danny brown
Shoot, same way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it makes sense.
They can 3D print everything now.
They make fake Rolexes.
They make fake Rolexes that are exactly the same as a Rolex.
danny brown
That's still fake.
joe rogan
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, they do that.
There's like a whole market.
They can make a gun easier.
danny brown
It's right because of anything, but a replica of a gun still kill you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
danny brown
A replica of a Rolex.
joe rogan
No, it's a real gun.
It's a real gun.
And they can 3D print them.
Wasn't there a guy that, like, invented this shit a long time ago?
And there was, like, some big controversy about it.
He was showing people how to 3D print guns, like, on YouTube or something like that.
danny brown
No, it's still going on.
joe rogan
I know, I know, I know, I know.
But wasn't there a guy that was, like, one of the first guys that was censored off of YouTube?
Am I misremembering this?
I may be.
I might be misremembering it.
But I remember when that shit first started happening, where they were making 3D printed guns.
And people were like, this is insane.
Like, we have to stop this.
And they're like, well, there's no law that can stop it.
And it was like, I guess it's state by state.
danny brown
No, no.
joe rogan
Go piss and come back.
unidentified
Danny Brown.
joe rogan
Freshly drained.
danny brown
No, yeah, I'm not bad.
joe rogan
No worries.
I do it all the time.
I fuck up, come in here with too much water in me.
danny brown
No, that's all it was.
I've been drinking...
No, because I've been on this...
I wake up at like 5 a.m.
and I'm...
joe rogan
Yeah?
danny brown
No, but I'm an early sleeper.
Yeah, I'm an early sleeper anyway.
So it's not like...
What happened was...
You know, motherfuckers talk about that on some workout shit.
I'm just actually one of those guys that do that.
So I'm like, man, maybe I should take advantage of that shit.
So now, I wake up at like 5. Yeah, so I do.
I wake up at 5. Because I never was like a workout person.
But now I can get so much shit done before my girl even work up.
Like, when 10 a.m.
comes, I'm like, oh my, bitch, you don't even know.
Ha ha!
I'm dead, dude.
I gotta watch the dogs and shit and go to sleep and shit.
But yeah, so now I've been just taking advantage of being able to wake up that early, you wouldn't know.
But I think that's come from stress type shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
To be honest.
joe rogan
Where you just don't feel good sleeping.
danny brown
Um, just working on music.
I think, cause see, oh, I was just talking about, actually, you know who was just here?
Fucking Hannibal.
Hannibal was fucking here.
I was doing my fucking show.
I wish I would fucking knew he was here.
Then he just showed up.
I was like, man, you might as well come over here with us.
But he had to leave.
unidentified
But no, Hannibal.
danny brown
Oh, no.
I was just telling him that.
I feel like when, you know, y'all as comedians and shit, y'all make specials, it's like instant gratification in essence.
Because y'all could do, y'all, I mean, I know y'all worked on a special for years and years, but then y'all actually do it in front of a live audience.
Even though the audience knows it's a special.
I mean, it is what it is.
You know, y'all do the specials.
joe rogan
Have you thought about doing specials?
I know you're doing a little stand-up.
danny brown
No, I'm not.
joe rogan
Not at all?
At Kill Tony?
danny brown
No, no.
I mean, I go on there and I have fun and shit, but...
joe rogan
But didn't you do like a minute on Kill Tony?
danny brown
No.
unidentified
You never did?
danny brown
I never did nothing, but...
joe rogan
You only just sat as a guest?
Yeah.
Okay.
danny brown
But now I'm starting to take it serious because all y'all motherfuckers keep telling me I'm funny.
joe rogan
I know what it is.
It's Tony.
Tony was telling me that he's trying to get you to do it.
danny brown
No, everybody keeps telling me that I'm funny and they're like, you can do it.
unidentified
That's, I guess, is what I'm talking about.
danny brown
But, you know, the thing is that I'm a nerd about it, the writing aspect of it.
joe rogan
Good.
danny brown
So, I love to write.
Even me writing songs, like, I always say this all the time.
Like, I probably, I don't know.
I mean, I'm better of a writer than I'm a rapper.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Danny, you're a funny dude.
You 100% could do stand-up.
Just like the way you approach music and the way you now have approached podcasting, you could do stand-up.
danny brown
No, no.
See, that's the thing about it.
Just the fact that someone like you tell me.
Someone like Tom.
Hanging with Tony.
So it's like I'd be a dickhead to not try.
joe rogan
You have to try.
You should do it.
danny brown
The whole shit...
In the beginning was like, man, I bombed that rap for like 20 years.
Why would I want to stand on stage and try to tell jokes and bomb and go through that?
But then I actually started thinking about it and I'm like, maybe this is like a second calling in my life.
joe rogan
This is what I think it is.
On your show, you have hilarious stories and you've got a great way of telling them.
You have a great way of telling stories.
It's fun.
It's funny.
danny brown
No, that's the thing that I love about doing it.
I'm having fun right now.
joe rogan
You can translate that to stand-up.
You watch Tim Dillon?
danny brown
No, I love Tim Dillon.
joe rogan
That's what Tim Dillon does.
He does that rant on his show.
He's the best ranter alive.
He does these rants, and then he takes chunks of those rants, and they become bits.
That's how you come up with material.
It's like, what you're doing is next-door neighbor to stand-up.
danny brown
Yo, see, that's the thing too.
Because you can't always be like, see, I was always that guy.
Like, I was funnier.
Like, you can be the funniest guy at the family reunion.
But that don't translate on stage.
joe rogan
But Danny, you know how to be on stage.
See, you know how to be in front of the camera.
You're saying it doesn't translate on stage.
No, no, no.
Even in front of the camera.
You're saying it doesn't translate on stage.
But that's just like your funny uncle who can't go on stage at an open mic night.
Because he's fucking nervous.
unidentified
That's who I am!
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're not that because you're not nervous.
You're not nervous doing your podcast and you're not nervous when you're rapping.
No, I'm not.
So you're not nervous in front of people.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
But you tell stories in front of people in front of the camera and they're fucking hilarious.
You're not nervous doing that.
You're not.
It's not the same thing.
danny brown
I think the only thing that I'm scared of is that I respect comedy so much and I know it's like it's almost gatekeepy.
joe rogan
It shouldn't be.
That's good.
danny brown
Do you understand what I'm saying?
joe rogan
But it's not really gatekeeping.
danny brown
We really do let everybody in.
Let's just imagine, okay, let's say tomorrow, if I'm just super good with comedy, comedians will hate me.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
danny brown
And I want to be friends with people, too.
joe rogan
Listen, bro, they're not going to hate you.
The ones that are going to hate you are idiots.
The idiot comedians will hate you.
danny brown
This is like Royal Rumble.
unidentified
But if you're good, you're good, man.
danny brown
Being a comedian is like being in a Royal Rumble.
Who don't throw each other off the first, you know what I'm saying?
Even now, with podcasting, having a beef with another comedian, like, driving you views.
So now I already see, nigga, before we know it, nigga's gonna be like...
Podcast comedian beefs gonna be like rap songs and shit.
We one step away from that.
joe rogan
Yeah, well that's always gonna happen with some people.
Some people just love to get mad and talk shit about people.
It's like their favorite recreation.
danny brown
But that's the way they get the views and that's the way it drops shit.
joe rogan
But you don't have to participate in that.
danny brown
No, no, no!
joe rogan
But what I'm saying about you...
danny brown
I'm not gonna participate in that because you're gonna figure out if this Muay Thai works.
Nigga come on some podcast talking shit about Danny Brown, nigga.
I ain't coming back on no podcast talking about you.
joe rogan
What I'm trying to say is you have zero fears about being gatekept.
People are just going to want to see if you can do it.
danny brown
I've been there.
joe rogan
Go have fun.
People already love you from your show.
They love you from your mom's house.
They love you when you guest on Kill Tony.
You can just do it.
danny brown
Yeah, no, that's where I'm at now.
Because you got to think, that's a total 360 from my rap career.
joe rogan
It is and it isn't, man.
unidentified
I don't mean Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
It's your creativity.
It's your creativity.
It's your mind.
danny brown
My rap career is a total different world than what this is.
unidentified
Of course.
danny brown
My rap career, I would say...
What made that bad is that I started a little too old.
So I didn't really get recognition or, you know, until I was 30 years old.
And you got to think I've been trying to do this my entire 20s.
So when I started to be a rapper and get recognition for it, I had a bitter attitude towards it.
You get what I'm saying?
Because it takes so long for it to happen.
That happens to a lot of people.
And then now I'm 30 years old.
It's a 30-year-old rapper.
It's like a ticking time bomb at that point.
How much time you got.
joe rogan
Really?
danny brown
So I'm already in my head.
I will say, a lot of people say like...
Being a rapper is dangerous, like, you know, because all the killings and shit.
But I would say being a rapper is dangerous in a sense because once you do it, you can't do nothing else.
It ruins you.
unidentified
How so?
danny brown
So let's just say, okay, let's just say I was a rapper and then it failed.
Then I got to go get a normal job.
Well, if anything fails.
But I had minimal success.
You saw my video somewhere.
I had a couple of you.
Now I'm working at a job with you.
Now you're like, oh, you...
Blah, blah.
So that, everywhere you go, somebody...
That's true if you're an actor, too.
So you're always getting acknowledged for your failures.
joe rogan
But that's true with anybody in the public eye, man.
danny brown
So just imagine, every time someone recognizes you, they're acknowledging your failure.
That hurts.
It hurts.
joe rogan
Of course it does.
But that's what happens in all walks of life.
Anytime when you fail and people get to shit on you and if you're a public person...
danny brown
If you work fries at McDonald's, no one cares.
joe rogan
Don't you remember Gary Coleman?
Gary Coleman from Different Strokes?
He started working as a security guard and people would just shit on him relentlessly.
Imagine that.
Because if he was just a security guard, no one would care.
You would never walk up to a security guard and go, look at this fucking loser.
You're a security guard.
danny brown
That's exactly what I'm saying.
joe rogan
It's the same thing with actors.
danny brown
So me being Danny Brown, I can never go back to being a normal...
I can never go back to being Daniel.
joe rogan
Danny, you don't have to, first of all, and don't.
And don't even think about it.
Don't even think about it.
You don't have to.
You're never going to have to do that.
I know what you're saying, but you can't think about like worst case scenario and dwell on it like that.
You are of personality, and the personality can do anything it wants to do.
You're a fun guy.
danny brown
I think about that and I love that, too.
Because you gotta think, the last album I put out was 2019. Yeah, you were saying that.
joe rogan
You're touring infrequently.
danny brown
No, I worked on that album with Q-Tip.
Just to be able to work with Q-Tip was such a fucking big deal to me.
For sure.
It gave me confidence in my music to be in the fact that A Tribe Called Quest was my dad's favorite rap group.
I remember my dad taking me to fucking preschool.
I mean, I'm preschool.
It wasn't that early, but whatever.
But elementary school, my dad taking me to school and he listening to A Tribe Called Quest.
And before I know it, one day I'm sitting in the studio with Q-Tip every day working on an album.
So...
It was a big deal.
You know what I'm saying?
It was a big deal for me.
And, you know, we made that album.
And I just think the world of music has changed so much.
Where like a 10 second TikTok beat means way more than you putting out a single.
You understand what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Like, that whole shit changed.
So, the way I grew up, the way I grew up, like me, my favorite rapper is Nas.
And Nas just put on a new album, and that album is fucking amazing.
And you know why that album is amazing?
It's because Nas is having fucking fun.
And Nas is able to make music without any fucking...
joe rogan
Well, Nas is really rich.
Like, he's got a bunch of different businesses.
danny brown
It wasn't always like that, though.
joe rogan
No, but I'm saying, like, right now, if he's doing rap right now, it's because he wants to do it.
danny brown
Yes, but it wasn't always like that.
He had the whole situation of what he went through.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
danny brown
With his divorces and all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It was all public.
danny brown
Yes.
joe rogan
He's the best lyricist ever, in my opinion.
His fucking shit is so complicated.
The way he does things backwards.
What's that one song where he does backwards?
danny brown
Rewind.
joe rogan
Rewind.
That's a brilliant song.
danny brown
Bro, we don't want to talk about this.
joe rogan
Just for a minute.
danny brown
Nas is like...
And I've had the opportunity to meet Nas a lot.
I don't want to say a lot, but he knows what he means to me.
You get what I'm saying?
Yes.
Actually, he wanted to sign me to his label.
I didn't sign to him because...
I mean, whatever.
I mean, money, man.
Money, money, man.
The other contract was more money, man.
And that's what it is.
But sometimes I think about that.
Did I make a mistake?
I'd be like, damn.
Just because the artist that I looked up to my entire life that made me be a rapper tried to sign me and I didn't sign with them.
All because of money.
And now, I'm not saying like I feel any way about being with Warp.
Like, I love Warp.
Warp is, you know, they've done...
Part 2, Warp has made me a better artist than what I actually am.
joe rogan
How's that?
danny brown
Because, like, okay, this even, like, the album that I just, I made an album during COVID, obviously.
We were sitting around when nobody could do nothing, and I just felt like, oh, shit, I ain't.
So I just started going to the studio and just started recording songs, making music, record the album, and this is the album that we're going to release.
But the album been done for, like, three years.
Like, you know, and...
joe rogan
Well, what's been the holdup?
You don't know?
So it's on them?
danny brown
That's what happened when you signed a record label.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
danny brown
Bro, you want to hear it?
Bro.
Alright, you want to hear it?
Alright, let me give you my rundown story.
Three years?
I might need another drink.
joe rogan
I think you need another drink.
danny brown
I might need another drink, yeah.
Alright, so check this out.
Denny Brown.
Being a regular rapper from Detroit, whatever the fuck.
Alright, whatever.
joe rogan
Cheers, sir.
danny brown
Thank you.
joe rogan
Cheers.
danny brown
I'm not even going to go into Tony Ayo and G on that all weird shit just to get to the point of...
So, I remember being...
It's a festival in New York at the time.
It was called CMJ Festival, which was like cool.
It was like, you know, same thing as South by Southwest where it is in Texas.
That's what it was for New York.
They had this festival, CMJ Festival.
And at one of these shows, they had at Brooklyn Bowl, Fools Go Records, Through a show.
And Kanye showed up.
And it shut the whole shit down.
And I couldn't go.
I couldn't get in.
And to me, I was like, man, Fools Go Records, like, man, they like the hellest shit.
Like, if I could ever be cool with Fools Go Records, like, whatever I can do to be down with Fools Go Records, I would do.
You know what I'm saying?
Type of shit.
So then, shit goes on years later.
I ended up getting a situation.
I started talking to Fuzgo.
And I don't think they were really into signing me at the time.
But Q-Tip from a tribe called Quest was real close with A-Track, who's one of the owners of Fuzgo.
And they hung out.
And A-Track was like, man, we thinking about signing Denny Brown.
And Q-Tip was like, nigga thinking?
Are you retarded?
He broke it down to him like, what makes me so ill?
That has to be nice.
No, I'm literally super ill.
When it comes to rap, it's like cheating.
I'm like steroid.
It's super ill.
I can cheat.
It's super ill.
So then he was like, fuck it.
Yeah, I'm going to sign it because...
So then I already knew I was going to get signed to Fools Goal.
We already had this to each other.
So it was no negotiation on what the shit was.
So I was going to interviews already.
Like, I would do an interview and they'd be like, what's going to happen?
And I'd be like, oh, I'm signing to Fools Goal.
So, boom!
To say that, we signed a contract.
I signed for $5,000.
Literally, $5,000.
And it was South by Southwest happening the next week.
And I had like two shows.
So I literally spent the entire signing bonus at South by Southwest the next week.
So I had no money.
Super broke.
Whatever the fuck.
I'm living off my girl.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, her banking on me, making it as a rapper.
Kind of situation.
You hear what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
We do whatever we do.
We get that.
But then the album comes out.
And at the time, no one really thought about the album.
I would think no one.
I did.
But at that time, no one thought that the album would be like a big deal.
Ended up, the album would come out at one fucking album of the year in Spin Magazine.
It ended up being one of the best albums I ever had in my career.
But when you think about it, it's like a person back against the wall.
When you listen to the album, I'm back against the wall.
joe rogan
Right.
danny brown
And the whole concept of the album is...
You know, rap music is all about being young.
20-year-olds.
The album is called 30. This is an album about a 30-year-old rapper just now starting to get a break and how he feels.
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
So, yeah.
The album did good.
unidentified
It did good.
danny brown
Congratulations.
It did good.
It did good.
I'm saying not like sales wise or anything like that, but culturally, it did good.
joe rogan
It got recognition.
danny brown
So I was able to get a lot of shit from that.
And, you know, I got a lot of deals and signed a lot of shit.
And then my next album after that was old.
It's called...
But that charted Billboard.
But it was a lot of money.
Like, I spent...
Like, it was a lot of money spent in that.
I say that to say this.
Okay.
As me, as a kid from Detroit, got good at rap.
unidentified
All right.
danny brown
I know how to rap.
A record label signs me.
I rap for this record label.
Make an album.
In my head, when you start to make music, you want to be as experimental and to be you as much as point.
You don't understand it's the thing called music business.
So you're not thinking about business.
joe rogan
You're just thinking about art.
danny brown
I'm just trying to make the best.
Me, Illmatic was the greatest album I've ever heard in my life.
So to me, it's like Illmatic and the other one is Cannibal Ox, Colvain.
Like, so, to me, it's like, I'm trying to make albums to mirror those.
I'm just trying to, like, as me as a rapper or as an artist or a musician, just trying to, like, shit that I was influenced by, like, try to make a piece of art that could stand next to that.
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
But at this point in life, that shit don't matter no more.
Because there's too much money to be made behind this shit.
You get what I'm saying?
So, I didn't care about this shit.
And then now...
joe rogan
So, do you think that by trying to make something that stands next to that, somehow or another you'll lose money?
danny brown
Definitely.
joe rogan
How come?
danny brown
Because time changed.
joe rogan
Time changes how?
danny brown
The shit that we liked in 1994, we don't like it in 2004. I still do.
Yeah, we do, but we gotta think about the kids.
joe rogan
Dude, I still listen to Cool G rap.
danny brown
Have you listened to Playboy Cardi?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
See?
joe rogan
Well, I don't listen to anything.
danny brown
Playboy Cardi...
joe rogan
I can't know everything.
I don't have enough time.
danny brown
Bro, Playboy Cardi can shut down this whole shit.
I'm being honest with you.
joe rogan
Can we play some of it?
Can we play some of it?
We can play some of it, right?
danny brown
You probably...
joe rogan
What?
Which...
danny brown
No.
joe rogan
No?
danny brown
No?
No.
joe rogan
Why?
danny brown
Just some...
See, look, I'm going to be a hater now by saying no.
But no.
No.
No.
We're not going to play no Playboy.
joe rogan
Why?
unidentified
Cuz, this is my Joe Rogan interview!
joe rogan
Okay.
danny brown
Let him know about the fucking game.
joe rogan
It's not gonna hurt you if he gets a little love.
danny brown
Alright.
joe rogan
You just gave him some.
danny brown
Playboy Cardi does not mean no love.
joe rogan
I'll tell you.
We'll play that.
We'll play a little of that just to educate me and educate the people that are listening.
And then we'll play Give Me a Danny Brown track.
Give me a Danny Brown track that you love.
danny brown
I definitely don't want to hear you after this.
Play Playboy Cardi.
Stop breathing.
Bro, you don't get it.
joe rogan
I don't get it.
Help me out.
danny brown
My music is like stand-up comedy in that sense.
Oh, you want to hear some of my stand-up comedy rap?
joe rogan
Sure.
danny brown
We'll do that.
We'll do that.
We don't have to...
Bitch, only thing you got to know, my dick touched the ground when I'm Satan, I'm in the flow.
See, that's the thing about rap.
Like, you know me, I was into comedy and so I took my whole shit from comedy to where I were raps.
So what I would do, I would just sit around and write punchlines all the time.
So I write punchlines.
So think about this.
Look, I'm about to give y'all niggas the game.
So it's 16 bars of verse.
It's four lines for a verse.
So let's just say if I sit around, I listen to a Joe Rogan episode, someone says an ill punchline on there.
Uncle Joey, he might say some crazy shit.
You get what I'm saying?
unidentified
Just some crazy shit.
danny brown
A line.
Just one line.
I can take that one line.
It's 16 bars.
So one line could create four bars.
So every line I get four bars.
So I need four lines to give me a 16. Mmm.
Yeah.
No.
The first time I ever did coke was Coachella.
joe rogan
How long ago?
danny brown
What Coachella was this?
I mean, it had to be a long ass Coachella.
And guess what?
It wasn't by...
I didn't ask for it.
It was...
What happened was...
Okay.
At this time...
Listen.
At this time, I was dating a girl.
And she was by...
So she wanted to have a girlfriend.
She's like, pick my girlfriend type shit.
So I found her girlfriend and I found her and it was a type of bitch.
They loved each other.
They kicked with each other.
They did.
They went on fucking vacations and all type of shit.
They did all type of shit together.
And then I'm playing Coachella and it's a good time.
But the bitch that's my girl Partner is at Coachella.
unidentified
I don't know.
danny brown
I didn't know that.
My girl hit me up like, oh, she in the crowd.
Boom, boom.
Me being a real nigga, after I do myself, I'm like, fuck it.
I just bust out.
I just bust into the crowd trying to look for her.
Find her.
Give me her number.
Boom.
I'm walking through the crowd like a normal person.
I'm like, trying to find her.
Finds her.
We kicking it.
We went to watch Sufjan Stevens.
You know Slippian Stevens?
Oh man, so good.
Carolyn Loyal?
Oh man, whatever.
Whatever!
Went to go watch Slippian Stevens and I guess because of who I am, she just thought I did coke before.
But I never did coke.
And she just was like...
She already had it and just hit me.
joe rogan
Wow.
danny brown
So it's just in my nose already like...
And she's like, oh yeah.
I was just like...
unidentified
How was it?
danny brown
It's the best I've ever had in my life.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
I've never done it.
Dude, I avoid coke.
danny brown
That's sad.
joe rogan
It's not sad.
danny brown
It is.
joe rogan
Maybe it is sad.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
But it's not sad to me because I've avoided it successfully.
danny brown
I mean, you can have done everything you've done already and still experience that.
joe rogan
When I was in high school, I had a very good friend and his cousin sold coke.
unidentified
I get it.
joe rogan
His cousin sold coke and his cousin like wrecked his life with coke.
I watched this dude become a vampire.
danny brown
I get it, but you could have did it and still be who you are right now.
unidentified
Maybe.
danny brown
Nothing?
Maybe?
What do you mean?
You gonna get lit and jump with the coke?
joe rogan
I don't know if drugs that make you more confident are good for me.
I like drugs that make you less confident.
danny brown
That might be some shit.
joe rogan
I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable.
danny brown
That might be some shit because that's all I like.
joe rogan
I like drugs that make you feel vulnerable and give you more of a sense of community.
danny brown
With the DMT and the mushrooms.
joe rogan
I like mushrooms and I really like marijuana.
danny brown
Even that, I did so many mushrooms.
Alright, even this, okay.
joe rogan
But you know what I'm saying about drugs that make you confident?
danny brown
Yes.
unidentified
Well, I did...
So I did the whole podcast, whatever.
danny brown
Hit me up about the mushrooms and like whatever.
So I bought a quarter pound of mushrooms.
joe rogan
Jesus, don't tell the people out.
danny brown
That's a lot.
I did in like a month.
joe rogan
That's a good amount of time.
It probably changed a lot at the end of that month.
danny brown
It made me worse.
joe rogan
Worse?
How so?
danny brown
Because...
I don't know.
Me taking the mushrooms, I mean, I did a lot.
joe rogan
How did it make you worse?
danny brown
Because I was clean at that time.
Everybody talk about how mushrooms could keep you from drinking.
When I started doing mushrooms, for some reason it made me tell me that drinking wasn't bad.
You can drink.
You can handle it.
Then I start by drinking.
Then I start by drinking.
Then they say, I know.
I'm doing coke again.
You know what I'm saying?
So I blame it all on the mushrooms.
Because I was clean as fuck before I started doing the mushrooms.
joe rogan
For how long?
danny brown
Months.
Like two months.
All I'm gonna say is two months is my limit.
After eight weeks then, it's fucked up.
joe rogan
There's a thing that does happen when you do mushrooms.
It alleviates some of your anxiety.
And maybe some people have some anxiety about addictions.
Like maybe they're not over it and they still have anxiety about it.
And mushrooms alleviate that anxiety sometimes.
But what is an addiction, man?
Like what would make you want to drink or make you want to...
It's a weird thing that goes on in a person's mind.
danny brown
No, and addiction to me, and I can say that for mine, I don't know how many people...
Addiction for me is an escape.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
I've been through so much in my life, and even this and that, like even now, like my fucking aunt passed, and it is what it is, like man...
I would say, man, like, that's what I try to tell you about me and my music career.
Because it's like, my family, they look at me like I'm the richest motherfucker in the world.
And if I can tell them that, no.
Have you ever heard a Danny Brown song on the radio?
Have you ever seen a...
No!
But to them, you gotta think.
Detroit.
Just the fact that I've made it into music and I'm someone...
This and that.
And I don't.
I don't have it.
I can be the first person to take it.
Music put me more into debt than if I didn't do it.
Do you get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yes.
danny brown
Like, so, my first album that I had, well, I'm not saying my first album, but with Triple X. With Triple X, they're good, and they gave all these people, boom, boom, these artists, they're good.
And then I did Old, Old did good, did that, boom, boom, boom.
It charted Billboard, boom, boom, boom.
So, now I was a free agent at that point.
So now I have these record labels, all of them courting me, boom, boom.
I was signed to Warp.
Warp gives me a fucking damn near quarter million dollar fucking budget to make an album.
joe rogan
What do you think I did?
Spent it all?
danny brown
Spent every land.
unidentified
Nigga, before you know it, I was asking for more money!
danny brown
So I went crazy, made a fucking quarter million...
Whatever the fuck.
Spent all the money I could possibly spend on this fucking album to make the best part of the album that I make.
And...
Now that the album has been made, I don't feel bad about it.
joe rogan
That's great.
danny brown
When you get a spare time to yourself, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
danny brown
Atrocity Exhibition.
joe rogan
Can I play it right now?
danny brown
Jonah Hill, he shot one of the videos.
joe rogan
Oh, he made a music video for it?
danny brown
Yeah.
unidentified
Really?
danny brown
Jonah Hill, yeah.
He shot that video for the second single, Ain't It Funny.
I talk about that all the time.
Even that.
Even shooting that video was such a fucking crazy situation.
joe rogan
So was Jonah Hill like the director of it?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
danny brown
Nigga, he was the budgeter!
joe rogan
No one wanted to shoot- Can we play it?
danny brown
Oh.
Here.
joe rogan
Alright, go live.
unidentified
Physical attention from older men makes me feel validated.
danny brown
I'm empty and shy.
unidentified
Oh, Uncle Danny.
Gus Van Zandt, nigga. - Yeah?
Look.
danny brown
She just did the Kevin Hart commercials.
unidentified
When you ever seen a rap video look like this?
*music* How did they get Gusman's aunt though?
I'm smoking mev.
joe rogan
Danny, I love it.
unidentified
I love it.
So I try to see some more funny how it happened Whoever would imagine that joke So you would say no one laughing Ain't it funny how it happens?
Ain't it?
Ain't it funny how it happens?
Ain't it?
Ain't it funny how it happens?
Ain't it?
Danny, look down from there. .
Why are you doing this, Danny?
danny brown
I've been destroyed.
And if I destroy, maybe I'll feel okay.
unidentified
None of us feel okay.
Oh, Uncle Danny.
Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
That shit is amazing.
danny brown
So yeah.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
That's really good.
danny brown
I've been doing cool.
joe rogan
That is so...
What year was this?
danny brown
2019. Yeah, don't show anybody this, bro.
18?
17?
joe rogan
It's amazing.
danny brown
But no, that's the thing.
So with being...
A musician.
No, being a rapper.
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that.
It's like all the visuals.
I mean, it's very disturbing and very crazy and very funny.
danny brown
But being artistically, but that's artistic freedom.
But you don't get props like that no more for that kind of shit.
joe rogan
You're gonna.
Trust me, it's really good.
danny brown
When I'm dead?
No, man.
joe rogan
Does that count?
Tell me you haven't gotten more people paying attention to music now that you started doing podcasts.
danny brown
Fuck no.
joe rogan
No?
danny brown
Fuck no.
joe rogan
Let's see what happens after this one.
danny brown
Alright, well tell them.
joe rogan
Let me know what happens after this one.
danny brown
I don't know.
No, it's not.
joe rogan
So would you know?
Would you know in terms of streamings and downloads?
danny brown
No, yeah, yeah.
I definitely, because I'm super on it.
But no, the thing is about it is that...
I just don't judge it like that.
I look at it like what I've done good.
joe rogan
So what you think, like, that's good.
I like that one.
danny brown
No, that was amazing.
joe rogan
Yes.
danny brown
No, I'm super proud of that.
joe rogan
Good, beautiful.
danny brown
So now it's what I'm doing next.
This is what I'm trying to tell you, like, the new album that I have.
I'm going to talk about it a little bit.
This is going to happen.
Look, it's called Quaranta.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
danny brown
40. Oh.
In Spanish.
That album you listen to was XXX. 30. 30. Yeah.
So, Cuaranta.
unidentified
I like it.
danny brown
Oh, it's so good.
joe rogan
Yeah?
danny brown
It's so good.
joe rogan
When does it come out?
danny brown
I listen to the album every...
Oh, I don't know.
Hopefully this Joe Rogan episode makes it happen faster.
joe rogan
Why have they been holding on to it?
What's the holdup?
There's no discussion?
danny brown
I don't know.
joe rogan
You haven't gotten any response?
Have you had a conversation about it?
danny brown
See how it happens?
Oh, no.
unidentified
Is it possible to be independent now as a rapper?
danny brown
You know what it made me feel like?
It made me feel like...
Maybe they're not happy with the album.
So I should make more songs.
So I've been making songs and constantly making songs for like the past two, three years.
And now I get the actual final track listing of what the album is going to be.
unidentified
And it's, bro, it's nothing.
danny brown
I've been wasting my time making those new songs.
And it's new songs that I love, that I want to, you know, to be out on this.
But it is what it is.
But when I do listen to the album that they picked, I realize why they are a record company.
And this is their job.
joe rogan
And you think they did a good job.
danny brown
Oh, amazing job.
joe rogan
Well, that's beautiful.
Sometimes you need an editor, right?
danny brown
No.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, you need someone else to look at it.
danny brown
Exactly.
Because I'm not about to even talk shit about them and be bad about it because they do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Hey, we Apex Twins, man.
Apex, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody needs an editor.
The thing about comedy is it's beautiful because the audience is your editor.
danny brown
Fuck music, man.
I'm trying to be with y'all niggas, man.
unidentified
For real.
joe rogan
Well, listen, Daddy, you're already doing it.
danny brown
All I need is a tight five.
joe rogan
You're doing your podcast.
danny brown
I need a tight five minutes.
joe rogan
You could do five minutes easy.
You want to do five minutes tonight?
danny brown
You got something for me?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm at the creek in the cave.
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
danny brown
You think I'm joking?
joe rogan
No, I don't think you're joking.
No, I'm not joking either.
I'm not joking.
danny brown
Don't play me, bro.
joe rogan
Danny, look at me.
Don't look like I'm joking.
danny brown
I mean, this will be testing me to make me do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's do it.
Five minutes.
Not hard at all, man.
You'll kill.
We'll talk about it afterwards.
If you got some ideas, you want to bounce around.
100% you should do it.
danny brown
I don't even matter if I bomb.
Bombing don't even matter.
joe rogan
You're not going to bomb.
You're funny.
You're a funny dude, man.
It's a matter of finding out how to do that on stage, and I don't think it's a long journey for you.
I think for some people it's a long fucking journey.
There's some people that are like quiet, introspective.
danny brown
You know, I think the only thing that would probably make it shorter because I've been rapping and performing on stage for years.
joe rogan
You've been rapping, you've been performing on stage, and you've also been doing a podcast where you're funny.
That fucking podcast is hilarious.
danny brown
You going to Creek and Crave tonight?
joe rogan
Tonight.
danny brown
I'm pulling up.
joe rogan
That's right.
danny brown
Let's go, Danny Brown!
If you're going to press me like that, I will.
joe rogan
100%.
You're going to do it tonight.
danny brown
Five minutes?
joe rogan
Yeah, five minutes.
You're going to have fun.
It's going to be beautiful.
I'll put you in a good spot.
danny brown
I'm just going to think of what...
unidentified
All right, what time is it?
danny brown
No, for real.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're good, dude.
Don't worry about it.
It's 3.13 now.
The show tonight is at 8 o'clock.
danny brown
I want to try it.
joe rogan
You should try it.
You know, it's a thing that you do, you get your feet wet, and then you're going to want to be really good at it.
danny brown
I've done it.
joe rogan
You're going to get obsessed at it.
danny brown
I already did it.
I've been there.
I know how to talk on stage, and I just don't have a routine.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, like I said, five minutes is not that long.
It just needs one subject.
danny brown
Yeah, but if I can get my five minutes.
You can get your five minutes.
You can do it.
I'm coming tonight.
joe rogan
You're all serious now.
Look at you.
danny brown
This shit is serious to me, bro.
joe rogan
I get it.
Serious funny business.
danny brown
Alright, even you.
I did my rap shit.
Just being a rapper.
And so much.
And being a rapper.
But I remember there was a time when being a rapper and your teacher asked you what you want to be when you grow up and I would say being a rapper and everybody would laugh at me and then so it got to the point where I'd be like, I didn't say a rapper no more, I said a comedian.
I'm like, I want to be a comedian.
joe rogan
You know what you are, Danny?
You're Danny Brown.
It doesn't mean shit what label they put on what you do.
You could do anything you want.
You could do music.
You could write a fucking book.
You could do podcasts.
danny brown
No, that's actually what I'm doing.
Thank you for saying that.
So I'm working on a book right now.
I wish I could say...
joe rogan
You don't have to say it, but you're professionally Danny Brown.
That's what you are.
That's what I do.
That's my job.
I'm professionally Joe Rogan.
That's why I have all these different jobs.
danny brown
God damn it!
joe rogan
You could do that too.
danny brown
So just shut the fuck up and let it rock.
joe rogan
Yeah!
unidentified
Be Danny Brown!
joe rogan
Don't worry about labels.
Fuck all those labels.
Let all those other idiots sort that shit out.
danny brown
He's a rapper, but now he's a comedian?
Get the fuck out of here!
You wanna hear some real shit about that, though?
That was another thing about that, though.
Where me being in that, and I feel like a lot of comedians, they didn't fuck with that shit.
joe rogan
Comedians?
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, they're not good.
danny brown
They don't.
joe rogan
The ones that are good don't think like that.
danny brown
I just told these niggas, bro, to me in my head, comedians, everything with that shit is Royal Rumble.
joe rogan
It's Royal Rumble.
It is a little Royal Rumble.
But it doesn't have to be.
The guys at the top level.
danny brown
And especially if you're not in that mix, a person like me.
So me, a rapper, they don't want to help me or do anything.
Everybody hates me.
joe rogan
But comedians don't.
danny brown
No.
That's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't do that.
We help each other.
danny brown
No, I'm saying I got my friends.
I got Tony, David.
Tom, yeah.
You know Tom.
I mean, that's my...
I work for them niggas, so I don't even look at them as friends no more.
joe rogan
You gotta look at them as friends.
He loves you.
danny brown
No, no, no, no.
That's my big homie.
joe rogan
I tell you when I called him up and I told him how much I like your show, he's like, he's so funny.
I'm like, dude, it's such a surprise show.
Like, I enjoy your show a lot.
It makes me laugh.
danny brown
Do you want to hear the shit about my show?
That's the thing that I want to keep it.
I don't want to get it to the point where I feel like it's overproduced.
joe rogan
Well, you don't have to.
This isn't overproduced.
There's one guy in here.
And all he does is press buttons and pull shit up and give his opinions.
danny brown
I guess you are right.
But in our heads, in our world, in our world of outside looking in, we look at this shit as like the biggest produced podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not.
Get the biggest skeleton crew.
I go to places like fucking 10 dudes behind a glass wall, fake laughing and pressing buttons and shit.
danny brown
It's terrible.
Fucking terrible.
No, I'm not.
No, because you made it.
You said it.
unidentified
This is literally what it is?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is it.
But this is what it's supposed to be.
But that's what I was telling you about.
You could do your show on FaceTime.
You could just point your fucking camera at you.
It doesn't matter.
danny brown
No, no, but...
joe rogan
It's what you say.
danny brown
It's who you are and what you say.
No, no, no, but I still owe something to time.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
No, they're amazing.
danny brown
I don't want to make no moves without them.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
No, you shouldn't.
And they'll be with you 100%.
danny brown
You know, so if they want to...
If I wanted to, like, do something outside of that...
joe rogan
What I'm saying is...
danny brown
Then I would want them to still be involved in it.
joe rogan
If you were doing something with some, like, fucking fake podcast network, you know, like, there's...
danny brown
What do you mean a fake podcast network?
I'm with the real shit, Wild Mates.
joe rogan
I know, you are.
You are.
Which, as I'm saying, is great.
But if you were with a...
They're like, there's some networks out there that are only...
unidentified
Why?
danny brown
Why do I need to be with any of that?
joe rogan
I'm not saying you, man.
What I'm trying to say is your situation's amazing.
But there's other people out there that get into a bad situation.
And they get locked into these companies.
And they find out these companies own 50% of their podcasts forever.
And they're like, what the fuck?
With no investment.
There was a lot of shady people that got involved in podcasting.
When podcasting started getting monetized.
danny brown
I never looked at podcasts.
For like a money type of situation.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is other companies do.
danny brown
Right now, I see that, yeah.
joe rogan
Some companies do.
danny brown
No, now it's a lot of money involved in this shit, but I just...
Because I feel like me showing up like me right now, talking to you, I would do this for free.
joe rogan
I would do it for free too, but that's the beauty of doing a podcast.
danny brown
So I feel bad that someone would pay.
joe rogan
The problem with what I'm saying about these podcast networks is they're not really providing anything.
They might be providing production, they might be providing a studio, but without content, they don't have anything.
And if they're taking half of it and you're creating the content, which can happen, that's a crazy deal.
And then they own it forever?
danny brown
That's our whole tip.
It's forever.
joe rogan
Forever.
Get the fuck out of here.
And I've seen those deals before.
And I've also seen a lot of comics when they're getting signed to like agents and like kind of shitty manager types.
The manager type will try to take a percentage of the podcast too.
So they own a piece of your shit as long as you're doing it.
danny brown
So that was the whole shit that I'm trying to tell you.
Like me doing what...
joe rogan
So doing it at your mom's house is perfect.
danny brown
No, no time.
He told me like, he like, hit me up like, you got the talent to do like a podcast.
But I'm like, if I would have did it on my own, I wouldn't be talking to you right now.
joe rogan
You might be.
But the point is, you haven't.
You did it with them, which is perfect, because they'll support you 100%.
danny brown
I moved to Austin, Texas.
joe rogan
I know.
I see.
unidentified
I was serious about this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's beautiful.
That's a good situation.
But Tom and Christina are beautiful people.
They're the best.
danny brown
What are you talking about?
I wouldn't have did it if it wasn't them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And there's situation like having that studio.
It's all so professional.
All the people that work there are funny.
Funny employees too, man.
They're hilarious.
danny brown
Zolo.
Oh no, I got all of them in the Muay Thai gym.
joe rogan
Oh really?
danny brown
Zolo, all of them.
See, now I can't.
Oh man.
I feel bad because I got them all signed up to the Muay Thai gym.
Now I'm about to squeeze gyms.
joe rogan
Maybe they'll listen to this and take you back.
danny brown
No, I already told them why I'm switching gyms.
joe rogan
You're disparaging your shorts.
danny brown
No, we already talked about why I'm switching gyms.
Part 2. They're happy with the gym.
They're going to settle.
But, I mean, I'm going to 10 planet.
joe rogan
Okay.
You should learn some jiu-jitsu.
You don't just do jiu-jitsu.
danny brown
Only thing, I have a bad feeling of jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Bad?
danny brown
Yeah.
How come?
Because I was with a girl.
I was with her.
We was together for years and shit.
And I used to go on tours for like months.
It'd be months.
And I had like an ill-ass, big-ass house in Michigan and shit.
And I used to feel sad about her.
Like, she be in this house.
She be by herself.
She just kind of not safe.
I put her in Muay Thai class.
Not Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu.
I put her in Jiu Jitsu.
She started going to Jiu Jitsu.
She got good at Jiu Jitsu.
So this maybe a year go by.
Boom.
This bitch looking at me crazy.
Like, I can't even talk to her.
Like, every time I'm done, it's like, ugh.
She muscle flexing.
She got done.
So now I'm living in the house.
With this bitch I done put in jujitsu class that look at me every day like, I could beat this nigga up.
She don't have no, you know what I'm saying?
She don't even care nothing about what I talk about.
So whatever.
I did that.
I mean, whatever.
We went through what we went through.
It got to the point, it got so far to the point she got so far to jujitsu, she was teaching a kids class.
unidentified
Really?
danny brown
Whoa.
unidentified
She's busy.
danny brown
Got a six-pack ripped.
And guess who her boyfriend is?
It's Danny Brown.
She come home every night.
So I think that's what ruined our relationship.
Because it was me.
So she come home and look at me, and I'm like, damn, you fucking them Jiu-Jitsu niggas, bitch?
What you doing?
You see them muscle-bound-ass niggas at class and shit?
You come back to the crib, me, I'm a regular nigga, you know what I'm saying?
unidentified
So yeah, but we split up, and that happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be an uncomfortable situation if you're dating a woman that could kill you.
danny brown
Yeah, and I think that's what happened.
Because there be times where we're having a little conversation and I can just see her.
joe rogan
She look at you funny.
danny brown
She like, nigga, I can whoop your ass, my nigga.
Like, why you?
And you know what it was?
I put her in jujitsu, on some shelf, being in Michigan.
And then Detroit, and at the time, like, you know what's happening with LA, too?
How all the people are fucking robbing, like, when they see, like, celebrities, he's not at the crib.
Like, I don't know if you know, but, like, last week, Nas, we talking shit about Nas.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard about that.
danny brown
They broke a Nas crib.
So, they look at, and they see when you have to do shit, and you're not home, man.
They're breaking it.
So, in LA, it's like, there's a thing.
unidentified
Eh?
danny brown
Shots out, nigga.
I'm Danny Brown, nigga.
So I know.
I got tabs and all that.
So yeah, they breaking in every nigga house, bro.
I'm telling you.
If you got a house in L.A., yeah, they gonna...
joe rogan
L.A.'s a wild spot now.
It's crazy how quick that swing.
danny brown
I feel sad because my little homie is a looper.
Now he just moved to LA. He's been out there for a few months and he's been doing his thing.
He's been getting work.
He just was in the last Fushi video.
Shit like that.
It's one of those type of situations where I can't tell him you shouldn't be out there because he's getting work out there.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's dangerous, man.
joe rogan
It's not the same LA. Oh.
Yeah.
It's a lot different.
unidentified
You didn't Denise Richards' car got shot?
danny brown
Shot?
joe rogan
Some road rage incident.
Someone shot a Denise Richards' car.
danny brown
But what she do though?
What she do though?
I bet you said a road rage accident.
joe rogan
Yeah, what did you do that someone shot your car?
danny brown
Did she cut them off there like that?
Like, what did she do though?
joe rogan
I think it was like SUV and they got out of the car.
danny brown
I don't know.
joe rogan
I didn't realize that someone shot the back of their car.
danny brown
See what that is.
See, her and the other bitch that finessed the shit on the college tuitions.
joe rogan
Oh, she wasn't involved in that.
I know what you're talking about.
You're talking about the scam where they were getting their kids into college.
danny brown
But what was the other bitch?
joe rogan
I don't know.
danny brown
See, that's how you know black people are racist, too.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Pfeiffer's was chauffeuring the actress 51 to a film studio when the male driver behind them got irritated that we're having a hard time finding the place, TMZ reported.
The outlet claimed that Pfeiffer's let the upset driver, who was allegedly shouting at them, While trying to squeeze in front of the car past them.
That's when the driver allegedly shot at Pfeiffer's and Richard's vehicle, striking the back end of the driver's side.
TMZ obtained a photo of the bullet hole.
unidentified
Hold up.
danny brown
Go back up.
Don't try to finesse that.
Go back up.
Denise Richard's husband shoots a lot of her OnlyFans content.
He knows what guys like.
joe rogan
Do you think?
danny brown
That's what I saw.
I didn't see nothing else.
What you talking about, niggas shooting?
joe rogan
Right.
danny brown
Only thing I saw is Denise Richards' husband shoots a lot of her OnlyFans content.
He knows what guys like.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You think it's a scam?
It could be a scam.
No rest?
They don't have photos of anybody?
Did they have a description of the vehicle?
danny brown
Bring all the attention to the OnlyFans.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Damn it, we got sucked into it, Danny Browne.
danny brown
I'm not.
I'm not, bro.
I'm not that nigga.
joe rogan
But we pulled it up.
danny brown
Bro.
joe rogan
It kind of makes sense.
unidentified
Bro.
danny brown
I swear to God.
I see what's going on.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
When you get into that world of taking photos...
danny brown
Only thing I watch on YouTube is Wave 360 tutorials.
joe rogan
It says, the outlet know that Pfeiffer's 50 stayed with the Real Housewives alum as she powered through and worked for 12 hours.
danny brown
For now...
joe rogan
Worked for 12 hours doing the OnlyFans stuff?
danny brown
See, this is the shit that fucks me up.
joe rogan
Is that what you're saying?
danny brown
See, Joe, this is the shit that fucks me up.
I know.
Because...
We don't...
I don't think about this shit.
But this shit is a lot of money involved.
joe rogan
Yes, there is.
Danny, I gotta pee.
We'll be right back.
danny brown
Alright.
joe rogan
Danny Brown, ladies and gentlemen.
Five minutes tonight.
danny brown
Five minutes?
Oh!
Don't forget.
You gonna make me do it?
joe rogan
No.
No, definitely not gonna make you do it.
danny brown
No, not make me do it, but...
joe rogan
If you wanna do it, you definitely can do it.
danny brown
Where are we going?
joe rogan
Creak in the cave.
danny brown
You gonna creak in the cave tonight?
For real?
Know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yes, for real.
danny brown
Who gonna be there?
joe rogan
Tonight, Duncan Trussell, Tony Hinchcliffe.
danny brown
He live here?
joe rogan
Yeah, Duncan lives here.
Duncan lives here now.
You should do his podcast.
danny brown
No, he need to do my podcast.
joe rogan
He should do yours too.
They made a clip of Duncan and I, all the different costumes we've worn.
danny brown
I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna come.
You're not gonna lie?
No, I'm not gonna come.
joe rogan
Why?
danny brown
If you put me in the hair...
joe rogan
No, I'm not going to put you in the hair lock.
Just come!
danny brown
It'd be fun.
joe rogan
Danny, that feeling is the...
You know, when I first got on stage, I almost didn't.
danny brown
No, see, see, this is the difference.
You already said it.
It's no big deal about me getting on stage.
I can get on stage and talk shit for whatever the fuck.
But the thing is, it's a friend group that I'm starting...
Like, I don't want to disappoint y'all.
joe rogan
You're not going to disappoint us.
No one gives a shit.
danny brown
It'd be funny if you bomb.
I'd rather bomb and be trash in my own presence and not around y'all.
joe rogan
It'd be funny if you bomb.
Come on.
unidentified
No, it has to be.
danny brown
Y'all want to see?
joe rogan
No, Dan, I want to see you kill.
danny brown
Me bombing.
joe rogan
Dude, I think you'll be funny.
I think you'll enjoy it.
I think it'll be surprisingly fun for you.
danny brown
You know what's fucked up, though, about comedy?
joe rogan
What?
danny brown
Nigga, five minutes is 30 minutes.
joe rogan
Five minutes is a long time.
danny brown
Bro, I did it.
I did it with Hannibal.
No, you know what's fucked up?
Hannibal been hitting me up all week.
Actually, that was the first person that actually ever told me that I could ever do something in comedy.
Now I used to be, you know, my rap shit and do whatever.
And I would do festivals and out of nowhere, Hannibal Buress would just show up backstage.
So this ended up being my friend.
We're like, uh, boom.
Whenever no one, Hannibal always show up.
He's my friend.
But one day I was backstage and I was just talking shit.
And I was talking about, um, you play Mario Brothers, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I have.
danny brown
Yeah, Mario Brothers.
And I was just like, um, Mario's like a home invasion rapist.
He's a plumber.
Why is he kicking them castle doors down, stealing princesses?
When did you know princesses had anything to do with plumbers?
And then you remember back in our day, his name was King Cooper.
joe rogan
Really?
danny brown
You remember King Cooper?
joe rogan
Mario Brothers was King Cooper?
danny brown
The actual boss was King Cooper.
joe rogan
Oh, I never got that far.
danny brown
But that's what I'm trying to tell you.
It got so weird that they had to change his name into be Bowser.
He's Bowser now.
unidentified
Bowser.
danny brown
Because they don't want to make you feel like...
Think about it.
Why is a plumber...
Kickin' in doors to castles, you gotta think, if you play Mario Bros.
unidentified
3, you kill every kid he have.
danny brown
You just kickin' doors, throwin' fireballs.
Bitch, boom, boom, boom, bitch, uh-uh, take this, uh-uh.
And then, you make it all the way to the princess, who said, this nigga named King Cooper, right?
She the princess.
You just a plumber.
You just kicking in those.
unidentified
You killed every last kid he had.
danny brown
And took his bitch.
The bitch never said she wanted to go with Mario.
Then his brother Luigi.
Luigi ain't had nothing to do with nothing.
If you play with Luigi, you can't beat no game with Luigi.
If you play Mario Brothers 2, like when you're picking the fucking rutabagas, that's what I call them.
Picking rutabagas, you throw them in.
Whatever.
But I'm just saying.
At the end of the day, Mario Brothers was home invasion rapists.
And they trained a lot of kids into a lot of shit that we weren't supposed to be into.
joe rogan
What do you think things like Modern Warfare, like when people are playing these Modern Warfare games?
danny brown
See, I don't play any of those, Joe.
joe rogan
But do you think that people, when they play those games, like Urban Warfare games, they're very popular, right?
What's the big one?
danny brown
No, a new one came out.
joe rogan
Yeah, Modern Warfare 2. So Modern Warfare is the big one, right?
Is there more than one of those?
jamie vernon
There's another one, like Fortnite, similar style of game, but you're doing way different stuff the whole entire time.
joe rogan
But Modern Warfare is basically like you're at war.
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
danny brown
What do I think?
I think you're gay.
unidentified
Pfft!
danny brown
No, no.
If you're gonna play games and shoot niggas and being fun, that's not fun to me.
My favorite video game that I play is Persona.
joe rogan
Persona?
What is that?
danny brown
Shit.
It's about some teenage kids that went to school and the murder happened and we gotta figure out the murder.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's a puzzle game?
danny brown
It's like 21 Jump Street.
This is it?
joe rogan
Oh, so it's like anime?
danny brown
Yeah, it's so good.
Joker, that's Joker.
joe rogan
So you're like living, like you're playing the game as you're a character in this anime.
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh.
danny brown
It's so good.
joe rogan
That's cool.
danny brown
And you only know the story unless you beat the game.
joe rogan
There's a lot of games now that you have to go on a journey.
danny brown
If you got caught up into the story and you love the video game, it's going to make you beat the game to know what happens in the story.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
So Joker.
But they've been making Joker look sexy as fuck.
They've been making look.
You got to do all type of shit.
joe rogan
Interesting.
There's a lot of games now where you're basically going on this hyper-realistic journey.
It's not as simple as just going and pressing things and shooting things.
danny brown
No, no, no.
joe rogan
These games will take your life away.
danny brown
The best games are those.
The best games are those.
That's what I would say.
Personas and...
I mean, I'm more so into sports games.
joe rogan
Sports games?
danny brown
Yeah.
I'm...
NBA 2K. That's what I was just talking about with Hannibal.
NBA 2K is like the nigga version of the metaverse.
And we just don't know that yet.
They've been training us to get adapted to...
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Metaverse.
danny brown
They've been training us to get adapted to the metaverse.
joe rogan
Have you fucked with any VR? Have you done anything?
danny brown
I've done all of it.
joe rogan
Yeah?
What do you think about it?
danny brown
Um...
I might be too old for just having something on your head.
I mean, it's not actual what happens to content that I see.
It's just actual...
joe rogan
Having a thing over your face.
Do you think that as it gets lighter, it'll get more easy to accept?
danny brown
Yeah, of course.
But as of right now, it's nothing.
That's not...
You know what I'm saying?
It's not interesting to you.
Yeah, putting that...
No, it's still fun.
unidentified
I love VR. I've done all the VRs.
danny brown
Bro, it's only one of the times the Batman VR. You played that?
joe rogan
No.
danny brown
The Arkham?
Oh, bro.
You might love that.
joe rogan
I've only played a few VR things.
The things that are really good to me are the shadowboxing ones.
Because you're having a boxing match against this robot.
danny brown
Just because you said that, play the Batman.
Yeah?
Batman on the...
joe rogan
Oh, you like do shit?
danny brown
That's what made me...
That's what fucked me up on VR. That's why I don't fuck with it no more.
Because that was...
It got too deep.
unidentified
Really?
danny brown
I thought I was Batman.
jamie vernon
They just put out Iron Man.
You can be Iron Man.
danny brown
It's pretty cool.
Oh, wow.
It got too deep.
jamie vernon
You put your hands back and you fly.
danny brown
Oh, shit.
For three days.
I played, bro, for three days.
Oh, man.
I beat it in three days, but I thought I was Batman for them three days.
I'm talking about, so day number two, ain't no bitch could talk to me.
The first day when I started, it was like, ugh.
But day number two when I was fully fledged, nigga, I was Batman.
I love it.
That's the thing I love about video games, that I'd be able to escape into a whole other world, this and that.
But I think that's now where shit are starting to, with metaverses and shit is starting to collide a little bit.
joe rogan
It's definitely colliding.
That's inevitable.
That us going into some virtual world is inevitable.
And it's probably just a natural progression of what consciousness does when it can control technology to a certain point.
It probably gets to a certain point, then it creates an artificial technology.
Just how long is it going to take?
Is it going to take 100 years before we're all doing it?
Or 200 years?
But we're going to be plugged in like the fucking Matrix.
danny brown
I think it's three years.
joe rogan
It might be.
unidentified
I don't know.
danny brown
And about three years is all metaverse.
joe rogan
But the Metaverse itself, I was reading something about how Meta's stock is down because of all this investment in the Metaverse, right?
Isn't that what's going on?
jamie vernon
That could probably also be because their Metaverse is different from what everybody else wanted.
They're trying to make their own thing, the corporate version.
danny brown
I just told y'all I was talking about with Hannibal.
The nigga version of Metaverse is NBA 2K. If you play NBA 2K, my nigga, bro, you make your own character.
Whatever basketball player you want to be, like I want to be 6'6", 250, I want to play for Orlando Magic.
Then you're on that team, then you're playing it like every day, like literally playing like...
What game they gotta play today?
Like, you're on it.
Like, to the point where you're mental.
Like, even now, like, I play 2K games, like, oh.
And I watch the real game that happened.
Like, ooh, I gotta play that game tonight.
Like, you get what I'm saying?
Like, real shit like that.
So...
joe rogan
They're so good right now and they're going to be so much better.
As addictive as they are now, imagine how addictive games are going to be in 20 years or 30 years.
Because 20 years ago, man, they were blocky looking.
danny brown
I feel like they're going to figure it out.
It's going to be...
I mean, I don't even want to say what I want to say.
joe rogan
It's going to be real.
danny brown
It's going to be real.
joe rogan
It's going to be like real life.
danny brown
Like, it's going to be podcast video games.
And I'm not...
My mouth was in front of the mic the right time when I said what I had to say.
When you click the button, and that's what's...
Look, see, I'm giving them too much game.
To make a video.
I swear to God.
joe rogan
It could happen.
danny brown
No, it could.
Nigga, it's going to.
jamie vernon
Yes.
This game is popular.
The power wash simulator people would just power wash.
unidentified
Oh, what are you talking about?
danny brown
These are my homies.
This is my favorite game.
joe rogan
All you do is power washing things?
jamie vernon
You clean stuff.
danny brown
Let me throw this mic.
unidentified
People love it.
danny brown
Bro, you made this up.
You already know.
unidentified
Hold up.
danny brown
Joe.
joe rogan
Come on.
A job you would never want.
unidentified
Joe.
danny brown
He already knew this.
This is all I've been talking about on my podcast for the past.
This is all I play.
jamie vernon
Really?
danny brown
The best game.
joe rogan
You play this?
danny brown
Powerwise Simulator?
It's the best game, bro.
unidentified
Of the year!
danny brown
It's the best game of the year.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Do you know how crazy that is, though?
jamie vernon
Like, people do this?
They'll drive...
danny brown
No!
jamie vernon
They'll fake simulate drive a...
danny brown
Go to my Twitter right now.
Powerwise Simulator.
Hit me up because I told them, like, bro...
How is, when I finish the entire level, and then it's like two, it's like two, it'd be like some dirt under the table.
joe rogan
Bro, there's a simulation of driving a truck down an empty highway.
What is wrong with people?
danny brown
No.
jamie vernon
People buy rigs.
Giant setups to do this at home.
danny brown
I feel like you're a person that will get into a video and you love it.
jamie vernon
Look, look at this.
danny brown
Fireman simulator.
joe rogan
Fireman simulator?
Putting out fires?
So what is this?
The guy gets in the truck.
danny brown
No, not fire.
Farming.
joe rogan
Oh, farming.
Farming.
danny brown
We're building crops.
You're building your entire land.
joe rogan
Look at this.
jamie vernon
It's not real.
danny brown
Oh, it's trucking.
joe rogan
This is a truck simulator.
danny brown
Yeah, fuck the truck simulator.
jamie vernon
It's like the car, but...
danny brown
Because they ain't got no lizard lots.
jamie vernon
It's not about speed, it's about dropping shit off.
danny brown
How is a truck simulator real with no lizard lots?
joe rogan
So is this...
Lot lizards, yeah.
Is this how they're teaching this guy to drive?
jamie vernon
And I want to be honest, the video I just clicked, that could be this, but I was just trying to find someone's craziest simulator.
danny brown
But no, I'm being able...
No, what we did, we just hopped on the...
It's simulators for everything.
Thief simulators.
Drug dealer simulators.
My favorite drug dealer simulator, like on your own dispensaries and shit.
You gotta be on dispensaries and...
Look, this is the video that we're playing, Joe.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
I get it.
danny brown
No.
joe rogan
Truck driver video games.
If you thought about a monotonous job.
jamie vernon
More specifically than farming is Weed Farmer.
joe rogan
Weed Farmer is a Weed Farmer game with fake water.
danny brown
But what's the original one?
The realest one is the airplane one.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Flight simulators are real.
danny brown
Oh, you don't fuck with that?
I feel like that's some shit you'll fuck with.
joe rogan
I don't fuck with video games.
danny brown
But Flight Simulator?
joe rogan
They get me too much.
danny brown
You don't think you're gonna fuck with that?
joe rogan
I get addicted to them.
danny brown
For some reason, I think that would be like, if I would think like who I'm selling this video game to.
joe rogan
To me?
danny brown
That would be like flight simulator.
I would think it would be you.
joe rogan
Hinchcliffe does these.
Fuck no!
Yeah, he does.
Yeah, he knows a lot about it.
Like he was talking to a pilot about engines and all kinds of different things.
danny brown
Part two, Tony, me and Tony, I got me and Tony.
joe rogan
Tony does these all the time, these flight simulators.
Yeah, he's really into it.
All right, all right.
I used to play this game called Quake.
unidentified
It's like an online one-on-one video game.
danny brown
You'd be finessing on Room Escape.
joe rogan
What's that?
What's Room Escape?
You mean Escape Room?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No?
What's RuneScape?
danny brown
It's a game?
What is it?
joe rogan
What is RuneScape?
Oh, RuneScape.
Oh, so this is like some fantasy type shit?
danny brown
We're gonna stop.
joe rogan
I'm gonna cast a spell on you.
danny brown
Come on, can we stop?
joe rogan
Look at this.
You thought I would be into this?
You thought I would be into this?
danny brown
Let's get back into real life.
joe rogan
Now I'm insulted.
I was fine until now.
Now I'm like, what the fuck happened?
RuneScape?
Yeah, what is that?
danny brown
Bro, these niggas been finessing and been making so much money off RuneScape for years.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure.
People make money off all kinds of things.
danny brown
That's not cool.
For real.
No, I'm being honest.
That's not cool, man.
The RuneScape with how it happens with video games.
joe rogan
I'm sure it's awesome.
danny brown
No.
See, that's the thing.
I wish I was on the other side of the fence.
unidentified
Yeah, let me get some of that.
joe rogan
Why do you wish you were on the other side of the fence?
danny brown
Because I ain't getting none of that RuneScape money!
joe rogan
Oh, I see what you're saying.
So RuneScape is just super popular.
But it's a game you love?
Do you like it?
Why would you think I'd be playing it then?
You're shaking your head no.
danny brown
Somebody, I thought he was a RuneScape type man.
For some reason.
No, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
I get scared of those...
Is that like a role-playing game?
Is that what that is?
danny brown
Don't cut this out, because I feel like people will know, but like, damn, they will get what I'm talking about.
Like, damn, Joe seems like a runescape type of nigga.
jamie vernon
It's like a little bit of like a World of Warcraft kind of thing.
joe rogan
Those games are insanely addictive for people.
Those World of Warcraft games, or what was the other one that existed, the big one before that?
Starcraft?
jamie vernon
That's not like it, is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, but Starcraft is more like a strategy.
danny brown
Starcraft is coming next, right?
joe rogan
But there was another game that Duncan got sucked into.
Was it World of Warcraft?
danny brown
No.
unidentified
Runescape?
joe rogan
Duncan got addicted hard to one of those fantasy games, where you're like...
Like, there's a lot of other people, and you're doing tasks together and shit, and you're in the forest with elves and shit.
unidentified
What's the switch?
jamie vernon
StarCraft, yeah.
I guess that's what he was playing, I think.
joe rogan
Is that what he was playing?
danny brown
No, man.
Animal Crossing.
joe rogan
I know he played World of Warcraft, too.
danny brown
Is it Animal Crossing?
joe rogan
I just feel like there was a game that was like, maybe it's World of Warcraft.
I don't remember which one it was, but it was one of the first of those games where people just kind of lost their life to.
There was a dude who was the manager of the comedy store, and this dude's face was pale.
What is it?
jamie vernon
It's like Duncan playing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he definitely has played StarCraft.
danny brown
Yeah, so...
No, StarCraft's not...
joe rogan
God, there was another game, man.
It's on the tip of my tongue.
Anyway, this dude brings...
danny brown
League of Legends or some shit?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Fuck, I don't remember.
But it was just...
He was so sad.
He was so addicted.
And he was like, I'm so good at making money in the game and so bad at doing it in real life.
I'm like, that's crazy.
danny brown
No, but that's the thing.
These niggas have been selling CS gold skins and shit.
These niggas have been millionaires on video games.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Right.
danny brown
It's scary.
joe rogan
You can sell some of the stuff that you earn in the game, right?
With real money.
danny brown
It's scary.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
danny brown
See, the thing is for me in video games, a lot of people look at me like I'm a super gamer, but I play their games in a sense to review them.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just to review them?
danny brown
Yeah.
I play games because I don't want to tell people that I think something is trash that I didn't have nothing to do with.
So I would play like...
Everybody be like, oh, it's your type.
I play and be like, I will tell you what.
Right now, the new game, I can't even think of the name of it.
But the game is, it's an independent game.
But the whole game is about starting your own cult.
So you start your cult and you know, so the whole shit is about, you know, running a cult.
So that's the whole new video game I'm into.
joe rogan
I don't, you know, if you think like Modern Warfare, Call of Duty type thing, inspires people to shoot people.
I wonder if like starting a cult would inspire people to start a cult.
This is it?
Honey, I joined a cult.
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cults 101. This is the game you're playing?
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
danny brown
It's so good.
joe rogan
How many people that are in a cult think they're in a cult?
danny brown
No one.
Part two, I want to start a cult.
joe rogan
Do you?
danny brown
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where would you do it?
I feel like New Mexico's your spot.
danny brown
Oh, where would I do it?
Detroit!
joe rogan
Detroit?
danny brown
Yeah, if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
I want no weak bitches in my cult.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want cold weather cults.
danny brown
But no, when I think about it, I could have started a fucking cult in Detroit.
Them bitches don't care.
joe rogan
What would you base your cult on?
unidentified
Sex.
danny brown
What you bitchy gonna do?
joe rogan
But what's the trick?
How do you get him to join?
Like space shit?
Spiritual?
What are you going with?
danny brown
Who gonna get the dick?
I mean, how hard you gonna work for it?
I mean, if some bitchy be like, oh, you gonna let me pee on you?
joe rogan
Oh boy.
danny brown
Oh yeah.
unidentified
Jesus.
danny brown
So the pee on bitches.
joe rogan
Maybe you should start your own game.
No, this is the game.
danny brown
See, this is before me, before I was a one-woman man.
joe rogan
I get it.
danny brown
I love my girl.
joe rogan
But this video game thing, like this cult thing you do, at least it's like cartoony, right?
It looks cartoony.
danny brown
Oh, yeah.
See, that's that one thing about it.
joe rogan
It's not realistic.
That would be a creepy fucking game if you started a realistic cult.
But they all lead to people fucking, right?
danny brown
Is there ever a cult that doesn't?
See, this is where it comes with me.
I think that's the only thing that's funny.
joe rogan
People fucking?
danny brown
I mean, how do you make jokes about shit?
See, that's where I'm at with comedy.
Like, I know I make rap songs and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
See, the thing is about making rap songs and shit is like, you can be as cool as you want with rap songs, but it's cool as hell to rhyme words.
joe rogan
Yes, it is.
danny brown
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yes.
danny brown
Like, you can rhyme words that sound cool and it's just like, you know, it not have nothing to do with fucking comedy or nothing, but it's funny.
Yeah.
And so now you're telling me to get on stage and be funny without the rhyming funny words.
unidentified
Yeah, but you're already doing it when you're doing your podcast.
joe rogan
You're telling funny stories.
danny brown
Because I tell stories and shit, but...
I don't know.
joe rogan
What do you mean you don't know?
danny brown
I'm just scared.
joe rogan
But you don't have to do it.
If you don't have to do it tonight, if you want to do it in the future, you can prepare for it.
danny brown
No, see, the thing is about it with me.
I've been a rapper my entire life.
And that was, God told me, oh, you're going to be a rapper.
Try to be a rapper and try my best to be a rapper and rap as much as I could.
But who knows?
If I grew up in fucking some weird suburb and I wasn't a black nigga and rap wasn't just a thing around me, would I have been doing comedy?
Would I have been playing the guitar?
Or shit like that, so I feel like when they talk about 100 hours, I only think I'm good at rapping because I did 100 hours.
joe rogan
You mean like 10,000 hours?
danny brown
Oh yeah, the 10,000 hours, my bad.
joe rogan
100 hours, everybody's like, damn, that's all it takes?
danny brown
Yeah, but 10,000 hours.
Oh, I definitely did over 10,000 hours when it comes to rap.
joe rogan
Don't you think that's the case with anything?
I think that's probably the case with everything, to get good at it.
You gotta really put in time.
danny brown
So, that's what we're talking about.
joe rogan
That's what we're talking about.
Yeah.
But I think you have a head start, because I think some of your hours already count.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
It's like you're transferring your education from a different school.
danny brown
So, me doing this podcast, I'm going to do the podcast, and then just hanging around with someone, Tom.
Like, Tom, I look up to him as, like, you.
I look at y'all guys, like, in a total different light.
And then y'all be like, oh, you can do this shit.
You can do this shit.
And be like...
It scares me a little bit, man.
It's supposed to scare you.
joe rogan
It's supposed to scare you.
danny brown
Because you want to do it well.
And you got to look at it like this.
Let's just say, I'm being a rapper.
I haven't had the most rap career.
I don't get Grammys.
I don't sell records.
You get what I'm saying?
Every album I put out has sold less records every time.
And then you know why is that?
Why?
Because I never...
You know how they say, like, a person, like, if you don't change anything that you do, you're, like, retarded.
Like, insane.
Like, every album that I made is the same album in some sense.
But I'm just tinkering with what I thought was bad the last album and just trying to make a better album with every album.
So I'm not...
Going over means.
You know?
I'm just trying to beat what I did last time.
joe rogan
Right.
danny brown
And I do it every time.
Which is great.
joe rogan
So what are you trying to say?
danny brown
That's not enough.
joe rogan
That's not enough.
Why is that?
danny brown
In the world of rap music we'll be dealing with.
You know?
I gave you that whole theory of that.
joe rogan
No, I get the theory.
danny brown
I'm the Patrice O'Neill of this rap shit.
joe rogan
Can you be independent as a rap artist now?
Is it possible to not be involved in a record deal with a company?
danny brown
Yeah.
If you believe in yourself that much, but we need the money from the record companies to make us keep going.
joe rogan
So that's what the record companies are doing.
They're providing the initial investment that gets you going.
Yeah.
danny brown
So, but at the end of the day, when they give you that initial investment, all they do is just tie you in.
So let's put it like this.
Okay, Danny Brown.
No one, I didn't have a record deal.
I made all this shit off my own shit, boom.
Made one of the illegal rap albums.
I get all the craziest.
Because my whole shit was about reviews.
You feel me?
It's not what people say about when you go on Metacritic.
And you see all the reviews add up.
What that review add up?
So my whole shit was about as long as I get a high score in Metacritic and, you know, whatever.
Just as long as I get high.
I don't have to sell records.
Because 10 years, 20 years, whatever.
Motherfucker can die, and they're going to Google what was the best reviewed albums in 2022, and they're going to see Danny Brown.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit like that.
So my whole shit was that, and I did that, and...
I don't know.
joe rogan
So were you saying that you're like...
Does it concern you, the amount of time that you'd have to do stand-up for to get good at it?
No!
danny brown
No, I told you what.
My whole point is, I know I have to bomb.
Right.
And I bombed...
joe rogan
A little bit.
danny brown
I bombed so long we're doing rap music.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't know if you have to bomb.
You just have to figure it out.
Like, I think you have a giant advantage.
danny brown
But see, this thing is what it was, Joe.
I thought about that, and I was like, man, yeah...
No, I don't want to go through that.
But then I thought about it in another world.
I'm like, who else get this chance?
If you think you can do it, you can do it.
No, but who else get this chance?
Like, you can be a rapper.
And a lot of times I think about me being a rapper.
Is that just because the environment that I grew up in?
Who says I was a rapper?
I just literally lived in fucking the hood, and that was the coolest shit to do.
I could do comedy then, but it wasn't a cool thing to push comedy for me at that.
Right.
You get what I'm saying?
But everybody was cool with me being a rapper, so...
joe rogan
Do you think if there was comedy, if it was a cool thing to do comedy, you would do that?
danny brown
Yes.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
There you go.
danny brown
100%.
Because even...
It got to the point where I remember...
You know when your teacher asks you what you want to be when you grow up type shit?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
And I would say a rap.
I want to be a rapper.
And the class would laugh at me.
So it got to the point where I stopped saying I want to be a rapper.
And I would say I want to be a stand-up comedian.
And the class didn't laugh at me no more.
But then the teacher would ask me to do stand-up comedian shit.
And I didn't have.
Because I remember one time the teacher asked me, we had like a...
You know, like a holiday program we gotta put on for this shit.
You know, like a Christmas program and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
And I had like a poetry thing that I was gonna do in this shit.
And I remember just reading this shit, and I was like, man, this shit, whack.
Like, I can rap.
Like, I knew me to myself, like, reading the poems and shit.
Like, I can rap.
Like, I can make some ill shit way better than this.
So instead of me, like, so when we would...
And I had to do the poems.
Instead of me doing the actual poems I was supposed to do, I just started just doing random raps.
And then the whole class, like, the school, everybody, like...
They just went nuts.
Like, oh, like, applauding for me and shit.
And I was like, damn, you know, like, that's probably what I should be doing then.
Like, I'd probably be a rapper.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just kept just rapping.
Like, even then, like, I was, um, I rapped the entire time.
Like, I would go to school, like, being in, like, middle school, like, sixth grade or whatever the fuck.
No one knew I rapped.
It'd be always one kid that'd pop up and try to, like, rap and, like, be a rapper.
And they'd be like, ugh.
And I'd just be, like, just sitting in a corner to myself, like, and this would be, like, my time to shine.
And I would fucking just buy them every time.
But from that one day, it would make me the most popular kid in school instantly.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny brown
Instantly.
Literally happened, like, Bro, I did every year in school.
Like, I literally shut up the whole year.
One time, some rapping came up.
I bust a rap, and then the whole entire school looked at me different.
joe rogan
How many kids in your grade tried rapping?
danny brown
Probably, like, three or four of us.
Because I actually learned how to write a rap was from one of my, like, a kid, Kevin Willis.
Shouts out Kevin Willis.
He had all the hockey jerseys.
Can you imagine that?
No niggas, we don't watch hockey.
But this nigga would show up on some throwback shit.
He had all the illegal hockey jerseys.
But his brother rapped.
And his brother used to rap in his notebook.
And one day, he showed me his notebook.
And I saw the format of how he wrote rap.
And you want to hear the fucked up part about it?
It's kind of like comedy.
Because it's all about stand-up.
It's all about set-up, set-up, punchline.
Set-up, set-up, punchline.
You get what I'm saying?
You set up, set up.
So I learned that from that.
That's why even when y'all talk about comedy, like, I can do it.
I just don't, you know, I'm just, you know, I'm just being a bitch-ass nigga about it.
Because I know I can do it.
joe rogan
It's like everything else, Danny Brown.
Before you've done it, you get scared of it.
And then you do it, and you realize, oh, maybe I can get better at this.
And then you keep doing it.
It's like everything else.
You know, you can't...
You can get paralysis by analysis.
danny brown
No, the thing about it...
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
danny brown
I'm doing it.
joe rogan
Okay, good.
danny brown
I'm doing it.
There's no...
unidentified
The only reason why I... I mean...
joe rogan
Just make sure you time it out to five minutes.
danny brown
I feel...
joe rogan
Don't go over.
Don't go less.
danny brown
No, I want to type out.
joe rogan
You can do it.
danny brown
But no...
joe rogan
The only reason...
danny brown
I'm not saying the only reason, but...
I don't think too many people get as lucky as me.
And it's to me to fucking take care of the blessings and really appreciate them and go hard with it.
Because a rapper...
Bro, rapping is like literally selling dope.
joe rogan
It's like what?
danny brown
Selling dope.
You might get five years at max.
Becoming a rapper?
Like how?
How long do you think it's gonna be hot?
You might got five years max.
For me to fucking push my five years...
Because I was the hot rapper for five years, and I did that.
And I was able to push it to start hanging with y'all niggas and do comedy shit.
And then it kind of like pressed it here and there to where it wasn't like no dick riding shit.
To where it looked like I was trying to like...
You saw me learn into this situation of this.
To where I got the fucking podcast with time though.
So if you watch me as being a Danny Brown fan, you super watched my whole progression of this shit to get to here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
You get what I'm saying?
So it's not a big deal.
You know what I'm saying?
The people that are super fans of me, they get this shit and they do it, they're like, oh, this is what he supposed to be doing.
This nigga been like, bro, this nigga been fighting for this.
You get what I'm saying?
So for me being here talking shit is like, bro, I supposed to be here doing this shit.
The only thing I don't understand is just because I think I love the writing aspect.
joe rogan
To what part?
danny brown
In anything.
joe rogan
But what do you mean?
What don't you understand about it?
You said the only thing I don't understand, I like the writing aspect.
danny brown
Because the shit you write don't necessarily mean you can go on stage and it can be funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's an idea.
And then you work it out on stage.
danny brown
Yeah, no, no.
That's what I learned.
joe rogan
But sometimes you don't.
Sometimes you write it out.
danny brown
No, no, that's what I learned.
You have to go and just work it.
And then that will turn into something else.
unidentified
Sometimes.
danny brown
And that will turn into something else.
joe rogan
Sometimes you write something and it's good right away.
It doesn't make any sense.
danny brown
So you gotta see me.
joe rogan
Creativity is very...
danny brown
I'm super green as fuck.
joe rogan
I'm sure you are.
danny brown
I'm a motherfucker that's...
joe rogan
Danny, you don't have to explain this to me.
danny brown
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
It's okay.
danny brown
But I'm only taking it serious because...
Look, you.
Time.
Like, people that I really respect with this comedy shit, they're like, no, you can do this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
And it's like, bro, like, I would be retarded not to try.
Not to say retarded.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
It's okay.
We've said that a bunch of times already.
danny brown
I know.
And I hate to say that, but you know what?
That's just like an enormous thing for me.
joe rogan
Your writing thing is not much different than any other kind of writing.
It's just expressing your thoughts and getting it down on print and just put it in on a computer and And it really is a lot of it is about the time spent thinking about the subjects that when you're writing you have to think about these subjects like a lot of people like to write in their head which is great too but when you write when you're looking at a piece of paper or when you're looking at a screen and you're typing now you're really thinking about it and it's extra time thinking about it.
danny brown
Do you know how easy it is to write a rap?
It's four punchlines.
You understand what I'm saying?
So let's just say if I come up with Four punchlines.
I told you.
unidentified
Right.
danny brown
So let's just say I'm hanging out.
Any boom day, I just write, I hear punchlines.
Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike.
Let's say if I had that line.
joe rogan
Right.
danny brown
Your bitch suck my dick like a Klondike.
I write four lines, three lines that come up with that, and then that's the fourth line because that's the big line.
unidentified
So, *Sings* Ya bitch suck my dick like a Kline Dyke.
You get what I'm saying?
Right, I guess.
danny brown
So it's, that's common.
If you think about it, so all I gotta do is have these, all I gotta do is figure out four punchlines.
And I have a verse.
16 bars of verse.
You know what I'm saying?
So I would come up with these four lines, write these punchlines.
It don't matter what the song is to it, I will figure these out.
I'm going to figure it out.
Now what we're coming to realize is like, that's what stand-up comedy is.
So the entire time where I thought I was being a rapper and I was writing raps, I was lightly writing...
Because that's not...
When I talk to other rappers, they don't write raps like that.
They're like, nigga, are you retarded?
unidentified
No, they're like, nigga, I just don't...
joe rogan
You were writing stand-up.
You were doing stand-up rap.
danny brown
I was doing stand-up the entire time, and I didn't realize it.
All I wrote was punch...
unidentified
Bro, I got up off the bed today.
danny brown
Like last night, if I hear a punchline, like there's something that I think is funny to myself.
And I'm like, I gotta write that down.
And last night it was, um, I was talking to them about it before the last podcast.
It was deviled eggs.
joe rogan
Deviled eggs?
unidentified
Bro!
danny brown
That's the most, I get why they call it deviled eggs.
Deviled eggs!
Now me, I'm a person that loves eggs.
I'm a, you gotta get your protein however you can get it.
But, alright, we were talking about abortions and this and that.
So these niggas, I'm just saying, it's an egg.
joe rogan
Okay, it's not fertilized.
danny brown
But they took you, they scrambled you up, then put you back into the mix, then fed you the next.
This is like the most, like, gruesome shit you can do to anybody.
It's a double egg, man.
You gonna tell me, bro, if you take my shell...
You take me, all my skin, and you're going to take all this, throw some mayonnaise and some...
joe rogan
Do you know that deviled eggs are eggs that are not fertilized?
This is not like a logical premise, because those eggs aren't fertilized.
They can never become a chicken.
A fertilized egg is an egg when the rooster fucks the hen, and then the egg could become a person.
The egg is just a piece of protein.
It's never going to be a living organism.
danny brown
Joe, how does this change the situation?
joe rogan
Because you're talking about gruesomely turning up what it means to be you.
danny brown
It's a dead baby.
Any way it goes.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
It's not a dead baby.
It has zero potential to be a baby.
It's never impregnated.
They lay eggs every day.
I have chickens.
danny brown
So, eating deviled eggs?
joe rogan
They're building a chicken coop in my house right now.
danny brown
Eating deviled eggs is not bad.
joe rogan
It's nothing.
It's like free protein.
danny brown
I hate you, man.
joe rogan
Sorry.
Sorry.
But that's what an egg is.
danny brown
But can I get my bit?
unidentified
That bit's not going to work.
It's okay.
joe rogan
It's okay.
I get what you're going for.
And if it really was you were eating babies, it makes sense.
But most people know that that's not really what's going on.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
It's like one of them things where someone has to...
danny brown
But see, that's why you need a ghostwriter.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, you need someone, like, to consult with.
You know, sometimes you have some funny ideas and you don't realize that it's not logical.
Sometimes it don't have to be logical.
Maybe a lot of people don't know.
danny brown
Yeah, no, you're right, you're right.
Sometimes it don't have to be logical, but...
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Yeah, yeah, that was the one I thought was really funny.
joe rogan
Well, Danny Brown, we're gonna work on some stuff then.
We're gonna go over some of your material.
We're gonna come up with a fucking game plan in five minutes tonight.
You're gonna go up there...
danny brown
Don't tell me that, because I'm really serious about it.
joe rogan
Why would I not tell you that?
danny brown
No, no, I'm really, because...
joe rogan
Also, I'm serious about it.
danny brown
No, because...
I don't know, man.
I think...
I think comedy is like a...
Like I said, it's kind of gatekeepy.
And the last thing they want to see is a nigga like me.
joe rogan
That's not true.
danny brown
That was a rapper.
joe rogan
If you're funny.
danny brown
Come out of nowhere.
joe rogan
If you're funny.
danny brown
And get good at this shit and then blow and then be fired.
joe rogan
I don't think, like, Danny, you can't think like this.
danny brown
No, I don't care.
unidentified
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
But you're saying it over and over and over again.
Like, who gives a fuck about that?
danny brown
Oh, because I've been through it.
joe rogan
But don't.
Those gate...
Whoever's gatekeeping comedy, they're not good.
danny brown
No, I've kind of been through it.
Maybe that's what it is.
joe rogan
Most comedians, most comedians, if you're killing it, would be happy.
They would laugh.
They would think this is great.
Danny Brown's fucking hilarious.
So that's what we hope for.
danny brown
I hope for that too.
Because...
I mean, I love making music.
unidentified
But...
joe rogan
You should be professionally Danny Brown.
danny brown
I would love to be able to make music without any...
Thinking about making any money from it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Or something like that.
Or even doing comedy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Like when I can get to the point in my life where...
Because that's where it's at now.
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
Like, I have to do shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
danny brown
To fucking support myself.
And I wish I didn't have that.
joe rogan
Right, you wish you could just do whatever you enjoy and then make money off of it.
danny brown
Ain't that everybody else.
So I can't sit around and act like it's not a big deal.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Danny, I gotta wrap this up.
So let's close this out.
danny brown
Oh yeah, thank you.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
Tell everybody all your social media shit.
danny brown
Oh, xDanny, xBrownX.
That's on my Twitters and fucking Instagrams or whatever the fuck is that.
Also, I have a, writing a book.
The book will be coming soon.
I suck to be on fucking Joe Rogan and have nothing to sell.
But that's the real shit, I guess.
You know, shout out, man.
Joe, man.
Thank you for having me on here, man.
It's fun, man.
joe rogan
Thanks for being on, brother.
We're going to have fun tonight.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
My man.
Danny Brown, ladies and gentlemen.
danny brown
I'm with you, nigga.
unidentified
Woo!
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