Bridget Phetasy returns to The Joe Rogan Experience to discuss motherhood’s transformative shift, from breastfeeding’s caloric burn to her unease with social media’s influence—like TikTok’s "spyware" risks and Instagram’s third-trimester content addiction. They critique vaccine mandates, Google’s privacy violations (e.g., a father’s data seized over child photos), and ideological suppression, including Twitter’s alleged left-wing bias and Biden’s debate struggles. The conversation then dissects the Oz-Fetterman Senate clash, Oz’s debunked weight-loss claims, semaglutide’s modest but real weight-loss effects, and the U.S.’s weak paternity leave compared to Europe’s generosity, underscoring systemic failures in family support and political accountability. [Automatically generated summary]
They get educated and then they infiltrate universities and they find out all of this research that's been going on and whatever category and whatever thing and then they send all that stuff back to China.
Well, not to mention that it's breaking the brains of all of our youth and turning them into putting TikTok.
And not to mention that you have kids who now want to become TikTok stars instead of going into STEM. China's like, great, let's make all these young girls successful on TikTok and make it seem like a dream for all of the society that these kids can attain.
I was having a conversation about this with a friend of mine the other day and he was saying like that he has friends that have girlfriends and wives.
That are on OnlyFans.
And because they're making extraordinary amounts of money, it's really hard to not do it anymore.
We talked about this before.
The average person is not making much.
But some of these gals that develop these big Instagram pages where they have a million Instagram followers, they're making tens of thousands of dollars every month.
On OnlyFans and so then they get in a relationship and you know, it's a serious relationship, but you know, you're fingering yourself on This fucking platform for strangers It's like where does that end and what okay if you have a child do you back off them?
Well, honey, we need money, you know, I mean, it's no big deal You know, my fans are cool.
They realize that I'm taken and I'm a mom and like it's a I am all for freedom, right?
I'm all for you being able to do whatever you want to do, but everything comes with a price.
Or a video is a woman alone in a bedroom with, like, ankle socks and fucking, you know, a jersey on with little baby underwear that she's pulling to the side.
Like, what...
What is that?
Who's there?
Who's taking this photo?
Are you pretending that this is for you?
It's a weird little relationship that you have for these people that pay to subscribe.
People were just getting mad that, like, not important people, just people were like, oh, this girl is like, I'm like, who cares?
But it was funny to me, and it was amusing.
And then people started demanding them, and then Patreon came around, and then you can have different levels on Patreon, and one of my levels was not, like, vagina pictures, but pictures of my boobs and my butt.
And I was like, who wants to pay for 40-year-old titties?
I still don't understand it, but it gave me a lot of insight and I just like, I know that if I did not address this, people would be like, that girl used to send pictures of her butt on the internet.
And look, I'm all for people capitalizing and finding different ways to make money.
That's not the issue that I have.
I don't even have an issue with it.
I'm all for you doing it.
But I'm just saying, like, for a person that's in a relationship or a person that one day is going to be a mom or a person, you're like, that's the thing.
I had a lot of insight into it, though, and it really...
I mean, we were laughing hysterically about this the other day because an email came through and this guy was like, can Bridget please take some nice high-resolution pictures of her butthole?
Part of the reason that I started putting nudes online is be...
And I've written about this for Playboy and I think it's like one of the few articles that's still up on Playboy of my hundred that were there.
And it was why I get naked online or why I post nudes online.
And part of it was I was like real early to sending nudies.
I would take a picture with a digital camera, upload it to my computer, and then send them via email to guys.
I mean, I was probably like 23 when the technology became, because I thought it was fun and flirty, and then I realized like, oh shit, this is out there, and I didn't want anybody to have the power over me that they could hold that over my head ever.
Even though I was a nobody, I don't know what I was thinking.
But I didn't want anyone to be able to hold it over me.
And so I just started...
I mean, since like 2006, when I started my website, I was posting greeting cards that I made with nude pictures of mine on there.
This girl, at least the one who was in charge, was so...
She was so interesting and just like...
She was like a radical feminist.
Just a young radical feminist who was like, men can have their nipples out, why can't women?
And...
They can be free on the beach.
Why can't we?
And so she was just, I think, pushing for more equality in her mind.
And and I I understood that, you know, I don't think it was for her like about getting she didn't strike me as that kind of person, at least when I met her.
It was a very strange scene and I left it.
I went back to my editor and I was like, I have no idea how I feel about this anymore.
He's like, good!
That means you're a journalist.
That's what journalists should do.
Go in with maybe some feeling of how they think and gather information that might change their mind.
And that is actually an important opinion piece because you went in with this one idea and then seeing the reality of the situation made you alter your perceptions.
I mean, even having now breastfeeding and being a mom and being somebody who's just been like my body was a vanity project, I was like, oh, this has utility.
And I know so many women who have had home births, and they were completely fine, and they had their baby, but I just...
I was in...
I think I was really affected when I was in Dublin.
It was like a big grave cemetery, and there were all these, like, it was like a dead kid area, basically, babies that died in childbirth.
from and there were just thousands of them there's a whole portion of the cemetery devoted to this and a lot of the moms too died and a lot of the names were bridget my friend was like is this making you uncomfortable i'm like no i'm just another dead bridget it's like weirdly just like another soon-to-be-dead bridget it's that part of the world that name's pretty popular yeah But it really struck me how far we've come in terms of making childbirth safe.
And I think it's like a lot of things.
The reason you think you don't need a measles vaccine is because we don't have the measles anymore.
And kids aren't dying of the measles.
And the reason home births are probably rising in popularity is because people don't die in childbirth as often as they did.
I want to be very clear that it was a miracle because I think people will hear my story and they'll be like, oh, I can wait.
No, don't wait.
Don't wait.
Even if you get your eggs frozen, even if it's still so much harder the older you get, not to mention, if you look at the numbers for chromosomal abnormalities, it all goes exponentially up the older you get.
And he's the only guy I've ever seen that can successfully integrate a real message in with his music that coincides with the music.
It enhances the experience.
You don't feel like you're getting preached to.
Because that is really who that man is.
And his songs, these brilliant songs that span decades, He sings them and has this band play them while these immense visuals, and I was told that it was the largest, heaviest stage set in the world.
And I'm not sure if this is true, so maybe fact check me on this, Jamie.
But I also heard that somebody who's funding all of these is one of the grandchildren of the Gettys, which makes it even more hilarious if this is true.
The girls who threw the soup at the Van Gogh, they went on Patrick David's podcast, and he's a brilliant guy, and he asked them, may I ask what your pronouns are?
It's like one of the things that I've been saying about all these people that are tweeting about injustices on the world, they're doing it on a phone that was made by slaves.
One of the first articles I ever read in the New York Times Magazine back when it was good, I was in high school, and there was a whole article about how recycling is basically bullshit.
I mean, there's that project that they're doing with the Pacific Garbage Patch where they're scooping up all that stuff and they're converting it into plastic that they use for items.
Like you can buy like eyeglasses that were made, the plastic frames and everything were made with the recycled plastic.
I always think of Thomas Sowell and his, like, famous quote, there aren't solutions, there are trade-offs.
And if you start evaluating everything from that perspective, you can, I feel like, get to more helpful solutions when you know that you're evaluating the trade-offs.
Wade changed the day I had this woman, Inez Stepman, on my podcast.
And she's brilliant.
She's a lawyer, so she has a legal mind.
And she and I had a really interesting discussion about it.
She said, you know, this is morally complex, this issue.
And if you're not kind of confused and torn about it, you're not really thinking deeply about it.
And I do think with the late term abortions, it's usually horrific instances when they have, it's usually like, it's a very small percentage and it's usually something horrible and tragic.
Like the mom doesn't, I need somebody, because whenever people say, no, people are doing this in the ninth month, I'm like, okay, I need an example of somebody doing this before I'm just like, oh my God, people are making this decision.
But I always thought, I had Chris Williamson on my podcast, and he asked me if my views on abortion had changed since I had a kid.
But I think my views had been changing kind of prior.
Not changing necessarily, but I always thought it was three months.
Growing up, I don't know why I thought this.
I thought it was three months, and then I learned pretty late, it's embarrassing, that it was like five months in a lot of places, and some places, you know, no limits.
I had a friend in New York and he was kind of fucked up.
He was just a mess.
A lot of mental health issues.
He was all over the place.
He could never get his life together.
He was really depressed and always falling apart and trying to get himself back together again.
Always a mess.
And his girlfriend got pregnant.
And she was pretty far along, and he convinced her to get an abortion.
It was when you can get a late-term abortion.
I mean, she was pregnant.
I mean, she was showing.
I don't know how many months, but it was quite a few months, and she was horrified by it.
She didn't want to do it, and he kind of forced her into doing it or talked her into doing it.
And then later, they wound up having kids, which is even crazier.
It's wild, because it's...
I mean, this was in the 90s, early 90s.
I don't know what the laws were then or what you were allowed to do or not allowed to do, but he was just so fucked up.
At the time, I think he's better now, but he had a really bad childhood, physically abused, and he was just a mess, and he just didn't want to deal with the responsibility, and he didn't think he could deal with it.
If you believe it starts at conception and, like, in that bit, you're kind of interrupting a process that would take place naturally, I understand.
I feel like I've become...
I guess, like...
And I think, honestly, most Americans are pretty squishy on it.
Like, in the first three months, they're like, okay, because so much goes wrong anyway.
It's why people don't even talk about being pregnant a lot of the time for the first trimester.
But then...
After that, the support for it drastically goes down.
So as viability goes up on all of the polls, the support for the abortion kind of goes down because I think now they're keeping babies alive that are like 21 weeks, I think is the youngest.
You know, we've talked about this before, but there was a...
When abortion was first made legal in this country, or readily available, there was a direct correlation 18 years later with a decrease in violent crime, you know, and Malcolm VanWalsh talked about this.
And this is what Ines and I were talking about was like there's two, you know, you're balancing the liberty of the mother versus the life of this unborn child.
She believes, like, kicking it down to the states is a victory for federalism.
She's like, this should always be, you know, if there's a state where...
Because many women are pro-life.
If there's a state where people are voting for this and that's what the people want in their state versus another state, then that is the will of the people in that state, which she thinks is a win for democracy.
But it is a fascinating thing that we're doing here, this experiment in self-democracy or self-government, where you do have options, where there's different states that do have different laws that apply to almost everything, that applies to drugs, that applies to so many different things you can do and not do.
Like, for the longest time, Montana didn't have a speed limit.
Duncan sent me a photograph during the pandemic of the meat aisle at the supermarket that he goes to in, like, Silver Lake, and there was nothing in it.
Dietary fatty acids and the 10-year incidence of age-related macular degeneration.
So the objective was to assess the relationship between baseline dietary fatty acids and 10-year incidence age-related macular degeneration.
After adjusting for age, sex, and smoking, one serving of fish per week was associated with reduced risk of incident early AMD, primarily among patients with less than median linoleic acid consumption, finding similar intake of long-chain-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids.
One to two servings of nuts per week was associated with a reduced risk of incident and AMD.
Projective associations between the intake of nuts and the reduced risk of pigmentary abnormalities.
We're seeing among non-smokers participants with less than the median ratio of serum total to high density lipoprotein cholesterol and those with beta carotene intake greater than the median level.
I mean, there's healthy fats in nuts, and, like, the things that, you know, the things that people think of as healthy, like, a lot of times are not necessarily healthy, and one of those is seed oils.
The study provides evidence of protection against early AMD from regular eating fish, greater consumption of, um, I don't know what that word is, uh, Google the negative effects of seed oils.
Yeah.
But first of all, they're all highly processed.
In order to get oil out of a fucking grape seed, there's this massive process involved with that.
These aren't natural foods.
Like olive oil, you press it.
It's like a natural oil.
And it's also very good for your body.
It's like a superfood.
Yeah.
There's certain fats that come from vegetables that are really good for you, but those aren't the highly processed ones that were initially designed as industrial machine lubricants, which is what's crazy.
And we had him on, and he essentially broke it down.
And he's a big proponent of olive oil, especially extra virgin olive oil.
Experts have presented several dietary culprits as possible explanations for rapidly rising rates of chronic disease in industrialized nations, including sugar and saturated fat.
However, one commonly consumed food found in the diets of millions has received surprising little attention.
Contrary to what we've been told, industrial seed oils such as soybean, canola, and corn oils are not heart-healthy or otherwise beneficial for our bodies and brains.
In fact, plenty of research indicates these oils are making us sick.
What are industrial seed oils?
Unlike traditional fats such as olive oil, coconut oil, butter, ghee, and lard, industrial seed oils are a very recent addition to the human diet.
In fact, industrial seed oils, the highly processed oils extracted from soybeans, corn, Wow.
Wow.
position, not only in the standard American diet, but in westernized diets around the world.
Here is vegetable oils and trans fats, which include soybean, canola, and cottonseed oils, as well as hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils, undergo extensive heat and chemical processing.
By the end of that process, they are oxidized, damaged, and cause inflammation to all the tissues in our bodies, including our eyes.
And this is about the cases of causes of macular degeneration.
To add insult to injury, these types of fats also make their way into most man-made and high sugar foods such as cakes, pastries, fried foods, salad dressings, dips, margarines, and coffee creamers, cooking oils, and more.
So it makes, they will literally release chemicals that make their leaves taste like shit.
Okay.
They've done these studies where they found that giraffes that are eating certain trees, I think it's the acacia tree, and they're eating it upwind.
And so as this smell and the sound goes downwind, there's some sort of communication that we don't totally understand amongst plants, but the trees downwind become inedible.
It's fucking wild, but it's like that's nature preventing...
Look, the way that Paul Saladino describes it, and I don't totally buy into all that he's saying, but I think a lot of what he's saying makes sense, is that animals, which are almost all edible, their defense is they run away.
Plants, they can't run away.
So what they do is they release these plant defense chemicals.
I mean, I understand that there's lots of benefits to it and people swear by it, but it seems like, I don't know, I feel like it takes me a long time to digest a piece of steak.
You're eating a super athlete that's running away from mountain lions.
They're fucking jacked.
And so when you butcher an elk, like when you're in the field and you butcher an elk, you see very little fat.
Very, very little.
Mostly what you're seeing is muscle tissue, and it's a dense, rich, dark red muscle tissue, and it's so rich in protein and vitamins, and it's so fucking healthy for you, but you need fat.
So I would use...
I would use tallow, beef tallow.
That was grass-fed beef tallow.
I would cook it in that, so I'd get some fats from that.
But I found that I started eating a lot of bacon with it, and that helped too.
And how many of those people have industrial seed oils in the cheeseburger and the bun and the fries, which are cooked in industrial seed oils?
And how many of them are eating Coca-Cola, drinking Coca-Cola all day long, which is filled with fucking seed oils and corn syrup?
Like, all that shit is what's really bad for you.
Well, you know about the studies.
That were done in, I think it was the 1950s or 1960s, where the sugar industry paid scientists to lie about the source of heart disease and connected to saturated fats.
And it was really just bribery.
And they didn't pay them much.
They paid them like $50,000.
And in paying them that $50,000, see if you can find that.
Because the New York Times wrote about this.
So people have this idea that meat is bad for you.
But meat is what people have been eating since the fucking beginning of time.
I remember reading that, like, the whole idea that fat was bad for you is because of the sugar lobbies, and then they just replaced all of the fat with sugar, and then now we have an obesity epidemic, essentially.
And I do think there's part of the problem with, like, we have a problem.
I mean, even flying lately, I'm like, oh my god, every single...
The flight I've been on, they need like seven wheelchairs.
You know, it just seems more than ever before people are struggling with obesity.
And I think it's obviously been proven.
And I think a lot of it, too, is just like confusion about what they should eat.
I feel like there's so much confusion around food.
Yeah, well, it happens less and less now because of the internet, because this stuff can get out, but yeah.
The next year, after several scientific articles were published suggesting a link between sucrose and coronary heart disease, the SRF approved a literature review project and it wound up paying approximately $50,000 in today's dollars for the research.
One of the researchers was chairman of Harvard's Public Health Nutrition Department, an ad hoc member of SRF's board.
So they literally paid these scientists to conduct this bullshit study because there was all sorts of articles, scientific articles, suggesting a link between sugar and coronary heart disease.
They recommended that the industry fund its own studies, which is, then we can publish data and refute our detractors.
The key ingredient, a protein called soy, Leghemoglobin, S-L-H for short, derived from genetically modified yeast.
It's already being sold in restaurants and supermarkets in the U.S. In 2019, the manufacturing company Impossible Foods applied for permission to market the burger in the EU in the U.K. Did the EU let it in?
The results of the rat feeding study commissioned by Impossible Foods and carried out with SLH suggested the burger may not be safe to eat.
SLH is a substitute that gives the burger its meaty taste and makes it appear to bleed like meat when cut.
The U.S. Food Department and Drug Administration initially refused to sign off the safety of SLH when it first approached by the company.
The rat feeding study results suggest that the agency's concerns were justified.
Rats fed the GM yeast-derived SLH developed unexplained changes in weight gain, changes in the blood that can indicate the onset of inflammation or kidney disease, and possible signs of anemia.
Yeah.
Listen, if you don't like meat and you don't want to eat meat, there's plenty of plant-based protein sources.
Like pea protein is very good for you.
Hemp protein is very good for you.
You don't have to eat fake meat.
If you miss meat...
Have a burger from a cow that was a cunt.
Only cunty cows.
Cows that kick farmers and fucking stomp on their babies.
Surely there must be cows that deserve being eaten.
And when I was in Japan, in Kyoto, we went to this like fancy dinner and they had these little, they were like minnows that were kind of, they were like french fries.
They were delicious.
But they were full little minnows with little eyes.
I don't want to be responsible for your kid becoming a super genius.
But AlphaBrain is a nootropic that my company Onnit makes.
And I'm not saying this because it's my company, because it's nootropics and it's the reason why we started Onnit.
When Aubrey and I started Onnit 10, 11 years ago, whatever it was, The reason why we started it was because I got fascinated with nootropics.
And I got into, there's a thing called Neuro One that Bill Romanowski, the football player, developed because he was having problems with CTE and memory loss.
And so there's certain nootropics, which are nutrients that are the building blocks for human neurotransmitters.
And you can take those and they can enhance memory.
And it was very controversial.
A lot of people called bullshit and snake oil, but we funded two double-blind, placebo-controlled studies with the Boston Center for Memory that showed an increase in verbal memory, increase in your reaction times, and essentially it helps your ability to form sentences.
When I do the UFC, Which is like the time where it's the most memory intensive for me.
Because I have to recall techniques and moves and when it happened.
We have like this ongoing bet on Dumpster Fire that he's my nemesis and it started because of my husband who we were doing one of these dumb books someone got us that's like oh you can like connect as a couple and we were jokingly kind of ironically in our Gen X way doing it and it was like what's something you would like always want to do or something like that he was like have dinner with Elon Musk and I was like It was supposed to be something about me,
and I was like, fuck you, you're gonna have dinner with Elon, not have dinner with me?
And so it became this ongoing joke because of him being my nemesis, but it's really just- Why is he, what made him a nemesis?
A, because it's hilarious because I'm a nobody, and he's a genius.
I'm buying Twitter and sending rockets to space and trying to get to Mars, and I'm screaming in a garage on dumpster fire.
So there's that hilarious aspect.
But it's mostly just because it became this ongoing joke because my husband started joking about his being enamored with Elon Musk.
That Twitter has only enforced left-wing ideologies and they've suppressed any conservative ideologies, even amongst reasonable, kind people that don't share the same ideology.
This is the term that everybody's using, particularly on the right, and it's valid.
Places like PayPal and financial institutions are saying you can't, you know, if you say this or step out of line, we're going to fine you.
There's this idea that you're going to have to create a parallel economy in order to function, essentially.
So don't give your money to...
I mean, I think The Daily Wire did it with the razors.
They had, like, Harry's razors.
Yeah, they did, and Jeremy did some razors.
So it's like, oh, don't give your money to people who hate you.
Give your money to people who...
Share your ideology.
But then you have these, you know, the silos are forming where it's like, then everyone's over here and everyone who agrees is over here and no one's forced to actually articulate their ideas or disagree with one another.
And one of the things that people are criticizing is apparently Gmail.
This is an issue that Republicans, when they're sending out emails to get people to vote and for mailing lists, their mails have gone into spam filters.
Republican Committee in US sues Google over email spam filters.
Republican National Committee accuses Gmail of discriminating against it by unfairly sending its emails to user spam folders, impacting fundraising and get-out-the-vote efforts.
You know the Gmail or G Drive, Google Drive?
If you try to put up the Kanye episode of Drink Champs, you know that they had a podcast and this was the original podcast that got Kanye in trouble.
If someone uploaded that to Google Drive and they deleted it...
So did you see that article that was going around and it was a big long thread on Twitter and a guy had to post he had to send his pediatrician a photo of his son's genitalia because he had a rash and a lot of time pediatricians now because of COVID will be like send me a picture let me look I can prescribe you something and Google Shut down.
So if you take a picture of, like, you frolicking on the beach and there's some person in the background you don't want in it, you can just circle it and, like, it looks like make that person disappear.
Not only did he lose emails, contact information for friends and former colleagues, and documentation of his son's first years of life, but his Google Fi account shut down, meaning he had to get a new phone number with another carrier.
Without access to his old phone number and email address, he couldn't get the security codes he needed to sign into other internet accounts, locking him out of much of his digital life.
And I think in the story, and I'm not going to remember the order of operations, but he found out that he had been flagged for this because it automatically got sent to the police, and the police luckily determined that it was not what Google flagged it as.
Mark had worked as a software engineer at a large technology company's automated tool for taking down video content flagged by users as problematic.
He knew such systems often have a human in the loop to ensure that the computers don't make a mistake, and he assumed his case would be cleared up as soon as it reached that person.
The more eggs you have in one basket, the more likely the basket is to break.
A few days after Mark filed the appeal, Google responded that it would not reinstate the account with no further explanation.
Mark didn't know it, but Google's review team had also flagged a video he made and the San Francisco Police Department had already started to investigate him.
And contained a letter informing him that had been investigated, as well as copies of the search warrants served on Google and his internet service provider.
I determined that the incident did not meet the elements of a crime and no crime occurred.
Mr. Hillard wrote in his report the police had access to the information Google had on Mark and decided it did not constitute child abuse or expectation.
Of course it didn't.
You have to talk to Google, Mr. Hillard said, according to Mark.
Mark appealed his case to Google again, providing the police report, but to no avail.
After getting a notice two months ago that his account was being permanently deleted, Mark spoke with a lawyer about suing Google and how much it would cost.
Kate Klonick, a law professor at St. John's University, who's written about online content moderation, said it can be challenging to account for things that are invisible in a photo, like the behavior of the people sharing the image or the intentions of the person taking it.
False positives, where people are erroneously flagged, are inevitable, given the billions of images being scanned.
While most people would probably consider that trade-off worthwhile, given the benefit of identifying abused children, Ms. Klonick said that companies need a robust process for clearing and reinstating innocent people who are mistakenly flagged.
I hope people are reaching out to him because, you know, if it's not worth $7,000 to him, maybe someone will take it on pro bono because that's a fucked up situation for that guy.
And look, especially people that are hearing this, this is going to steer people away from using an Android phone.
So one of the videos, when they said there was another video that was flagged, he said it was a video he probably took of his wife breastfeeding his son, and she was probably topless.
He's like, that's all I can think of, is it was probably just an intimate moment where my wife was lying in bed with my son, and I wanted to capture it.
You know, I had Gavin DeBecker on, who is a security expert, who explained to me that the original Pegasus that was invented by, I think it was the Mossad, the Israeli government, or someone in the...
We invented this original way of scanning your phone.
So what it would be, this is how Jeff Bezos, like the Saudis, got a hold of...
He was doing something with them and they sent him...
Yeah, eventually.
But they sent him a WhatsApp link.
He clicks on the WhatsApp link and it uploads this Pegasus program to his phone.
And then because of that, they got access to all of his stuff.
And I think the story goes, I don't want to fuck this up, but I think the story goes that Jeff Bezos' bombshell girlfriend, her brother is kind of a scumbag.
And Bezos is now suing the brother.
Make sure that's true.
Because the brother got access to those things because of this, and then he sold them to tabloids.
I don't even care how many times he's had COVID. This is just bullshit at this point because we know this and I don't know this like allergy to science that has taken...
This is people who are allowed to stay home in their bubble and never leave who are saying this stuff because if you were just like a working class person, you were working through the whole pandemic.
Another thing that makes me optimistic is suddenly CNN the other day was like, how come we're not talking about the children who suffered during the pandemic?
It's a key developmental period of these children's lives.
So children that were like two and one and three years old, like little kids that are learning from people's expressions and how they talk, now all of a sudden everyone's got like a block over that.
But this is what makes me so mad at progressives and people who are saying, like, we need to, like, shut the schools.
And in L.A., I think we had maybe the longest shutdowns.
And they're like, that's just them protecting everybody else.
But these kids are behind.
And there's already they do lots of studies about, like, Like marginalized communities and the summer gap because a lot of kids fall behind over the summer.
And this was like a very extended two year summer gap for a lot of the people that allegedly all of these people, you know, care about.
But I'm like, if you cared, you would you would have these kids back in school.
When they learned that it wasn't scary for everybody, that the real people that were being affected by this in a dangerous way were old people and overweight people and people with compromised immune systems.
They didn't adjust for that.
And we knew they didn't adjust for that.
And they were just telling you, you have to do what we say.
And if you're healthy and if you take care of yourself, it's not as bad as if you're not healthy and not taking care of yourself, but you're not saying that.
So you're not providing all the data.
All you're doing is acting as propagandists for the pharmaceutical companies that are pushing this one binary solution.
You have to do this.
There's people telling me after I survived from COVID, survived.
So they think everybody should do the thing that they did, which makes sense.
It's logical.
It's logical that if you think you did the right thing and you went and got vaccinated, you're mad that other people didn't.
But then once you've gotten all the data and as time goes on, we're going to get even more data, more and more and more over time.
And we're going to recognize what these fucking problems really are.
You've got to adjust to the new data.
And people don't want to do that because they had these initial positions they took, they dug their heels into the sand, and they pointed fingers at everybody who didn't do what they were supposed to do, and they didn't take into consideration that throughout history, pharmaceutical companies have been full of shit.
this and I think another thing that made me optimistic I'm trying to think of things that make me optimistic like the NHS coming pulling back from the gender affirming care model that was pretty recent they And saying like, oh, science is not actually backing up that this is the correct way to deal with gender dysphoria in minors in particular.
Well it's also like why do you need if someone is they feel like they're in the wrong gender they feel like they should be a woman or they should be a man if you feel like you identify with a woman you want to identify as a woman why do you have to add stuff to your body that you don't even know what the effect is going to be if you you know I'm saying like yeah that's this you're talking about a different thing like if you identify as a woman and you you feel like you're a woman Just be a woman.
Decide you're a woman.
Okay?
I'm cool with that.
And if you want, as a grown adult, to try to take hormones to accentuate that or to give you a better feeling of what it means to be a woman, like a woman should have estrogen, I want to take estrogen, that's your right.
But to impose that on kids when you don't necessarily know And I feel so bad for these parents because their kids are in crisis often and they're getting bad advice.
They're going to professionals and they're saying, I don't know what to do.
And they're like, well, let's just go with what the kid wants and I think we should write them a prescription.
And I know people say it's not that quick, but there's tons.
But it is that quick.
It is that quick.
I've had detransitioners on my podcast on Watkins Welcome and their stories are so important and they all say there was barely more than like one or two interviews with you know going wherever they went to get there to get started on hormone blockers or started on testosterone or whatever and even one young woman who came on She was saying that she was old enough legally to make the decision,
but she was still only 20. And I'm like, it's still...
You know, she's like, I want to take responsibility.
I made this choice.
But I'm like, you're not even...
Your prefrontal cortex isn't even developed until you're like 25. You can't know.
And like I've been saying too about...
One of the things I've been kind of radicalized about since I had a kid is...
In particular, with all of these young people who are being pushed to essentially become sterile in many, many cases when you start taking the blockers and start going down that road, it's not informed consent because you can't know until you know.
And what I don't understand is how in Europe, where they were kind of trailblazing in a lot of this, they're looking at the science and backing off and saying, we need to put on the brakes.
Not push this on young children and pump the brakes and stop, you know...
It's like crazy, but at least they're looking at the science and saying there's not enough evidence to suggest that there's less suicide if you start the gender-affirming care model versus wait and see, which was the old model.
And now, in the United States, it feels like just...
If you have like a movement that's happening from the youth, then and it's every everywhere, even though they want to say that it's not a social contagion, which I'm like this.
How can you be a person who's like my age and say this isn't a social contagion?
I'm like.
It happens in groups of friends.
Like, one 14-year-old will identify as they, and then pretty soon, in particular among girls, then they'll all be identifying.
How can you look at that and be like, this isn't a social contagion.
And I just rack my brain and I try to have good faith.
And I don't understand how it's been institutionalized.
That's what I... You know, even when I was in my, like, birthing class that I had to take online, or it didn't have to, but I took it online, and they were referring to everybody as birthing persons through the whole thing.
And I wanted to fucking scream.
Because it's like...
A, there was, as far as I could tell from the Zoom, there just seemed to be a bunch of women.
And I'm like, why can't you say women?
Even if there's one person, why can't they handle being called a woman?
Because it doesn't encroach into male spaces the way testosterone, like a biological male that decides to become a female encroaches into female spaces and tends to use male behavior, especially in sports.
Like this male dominance of female places like Lea Thomas.
If there was some crazy benefit, like a female, a biological female, who takes testosterone and then decides to become a trans man and identifies as a man, but then just starts dominating male spaces, men would be like, what the fuck?
Like men would get mad, but there's zero pushback.
Men don't, like Elliot Page, like there was a lot of people that were like ideologically opposed to it or didn't think it was right or thought it was a bad decision, but hey, that's on you.
You see it, like, and there's a reason for female spaces.
I interviewed a couple of the women from the Women's Liberation Front, and they're— They're suing some of the California corrections for allowing people to just self-identify into female prisons.
Yeah, yeah, because they're biological males and biological males tend to approach situations in a different way.
We've seen that thing recently where I think it was at a Matt Walsh.
He was giving a speech and there was these women that were holding up these signs and this trans woman is standing in this lady's face fucking screaming at her.
Like, fuck you, bitch.
There's one of them.
One of them is my favorite.
It was after Roe v.
Wade.
There was this trans woman who was protesting Roe v.
But they'll come after people like my friends who are feminists or me online if you're saying like, oh...
If you're pushing for, you know, this is important about women and women's reproductive health, and they'll be like, you know, it's not fair for you to leave us out of the conversation.
But it's also just hijacking a whole movement and it's insane to me how quickly the conversation about all this like birthing persons the minute Roe v.
Wade stopped like oh suddenly we're using women again?
One of my favorite ones is this trans woman with a beard and wearing a dress that said, some women have penises, and if you don't like that, you could suck my dick.
Again, I think we're seeing it in Europe, and they were like leaders of this kind of movement, and now it seems like they're coming to their senses a little bit and following science.
I don't necessarily see that, although we might see it in the midterms.
Again, people tend to voice their opinion on these things at the ballot when they don't have to voice their opinion.
I was reading last night an article about in Oregon, there is there's an independent woman running and then a Democrat and Republican and the Republican they think might win.
Biden was in Oregon, like, stumping for the Democratic candidate because they're so worried Oregon's going to have a Republican governor the first time in 40 years.
And again, I really think that all the polls and all that stuff, that's indicative of, like, the mindset of a lot of people that are willing to take polls.
The way they're handling crime, the way they're releasing people that are committing violent crimes and then putting them right back on the street, people are freaking the fuck out.
Fund district attorneys, fund politicians that are like super progressive and want to let criminals out and want to, you know, institute laws that don't keep people safe.
I remember I went to see it with my wife and we were in the movie theater and we were watching The Joker and she was like, this seems a little too close to what's possible.
Remember, they were like, there are going to be shootings in the, because of this movie, there are going to be shootings in the movie theaters, and they came out and nothing happened.
I mean, I think she's working on another book, and I'm not sure if I'm allowed to talk about it, but I believe it's addressing a lot of these policies that are like the kind of idea that you will own nothing, you'll live in a pod, you'll eat bugs.
But the small business stuff was infuriating because you had things like Walmart allowed to stay open, little local store had to shut down.
So these little mom and pops all got destroyed.
And even during the George Floyd riots, I donated...
I used to live in Minneapolis.
One of the places I went to after rehab was right down the street from that police station on Lake Street that burned down.
And that neighborhood is all small businesses.
And I still get emails for them.
They're like, two years later and we're raising more money.
And they're still rebuilding.
They're still trying to...
Bring back, you know, like two years after the damage.
The assailant was yelling, where is Nancy, according to a person briefed in the assault.
Her husband Paul Pelosi was hospitalized and the police said the suspect would be charged with attempted homicide.
So, what happened?
Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul Pelosi was violently assaulted by a man who broke into the couple's home in San Francisco early Friday morning.
David DePape, 42, said they were investigating a possible motive.
The suspect is David DePape.
They were investigating a possible motive.
The details, San Francisco police responded to a break-in at Paul Pelosi's residence at 2.27 a.m.
Friday, Chief William Scott said in a news conference, the assailant, who pulled a hammer from Mr. Pelosi and violently attacked him in front of police officers.
The intruder was in search of Speaker Pelosi, according to a person briefed in the attack, and confronted Mr. Pelosi in the couple's home, shouting, Where is Nancy?
Where is Nancy?
A spokesperson for the Speaker said in a statement that Mr. Pelosi, 82, was taken to the hospital, was receiving excellent medical care.
What?
So he might have had a hammer, and the guy took the hammer from him?
Because it said he pulled a hammer from Mr. Pelosi and violently attacked him in front of the police.
A person with the same name as the suspect posted a number of conspiracy theories on social media.
What does that mean?
I don't like how you said that.
Tell me what he posted.
Don't say conspiracy theories to make it seem like he was crazy.
Although it could not be confirmed whether the posts were linked to the intruder, Mrs. Pelosi was in Washington, D.C., With her protective detail at the time of the break-in, so she has a protective detail.
Three San Francisco police officers responding to an emergency call burst into the home of Speaker Nancy Pelosi in the early morning to find her 82 year old husband and an intruder grappling over a hammer.
Yeah, so he pulled out a hammer, tried to stop this guy.
That's all he has?
Because in San Francisco, it's hard to get a gun.
As Police Chief William Scott described the scene of a news conference later in the day, the intruder ripped the hammer out of the grip of Speaker's husband, Paul Pelosi, and violently assaulted him with it in front of the officers.
But I can yell at the Democratic Party and I can tell them where they can at least make one fucking small change to stop pissing me the fuck off every hour right now.
Stop sending me Stop sending me fundraising requests right now.
Okay?
The Republican Party had a plan for the last 50 years to overturn Roe v.
Wade.
We had a leak five weeks ago telling us that this exact thing was going to happen.
And your response after five weeks of careful study and planning and thought has been to send us nonstop fundraising emails.
Alright, so let me just leave you a quick list.
Mark Warner, he's the Democratic Senator from Virginia.
He's worth $214.1 million.
Don Beyer, he's a Democratic Virginia House member.
He's worth $124.9 million.
Dean Phillips, he's a Minnesota House member.
He is worth $123.8 million.
Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the fucking House of the Democratic Party from California, is worth $114.7 million.
Dianne Feinstein, who doesn't know where the fuck she is right now, the Senator from California, part of the Democratic Party, is worth $87.9 million.
You guys want money?
Fucking call your guy.
You call him every week to do insider trading.
Stop fucking sending me emails.
Stop sending me fucking texts.
Stop fucking reading poems and singing goddamn karaoke.
You have power.
You have it.
You're in those seats.
We're the ones who are powerless.
Stop fucking pretending you're protesting.
If you don't want to fucking do it or it's too hard, fucking retire.
You're rich as shit.
You don't need to do anything.
If I had $114.7 million, Nancy Pelosi, you know what I'd do?
First thing, I'd get my fucking husband a driver so he didn't get a goddamn DUI. Second thing, you know what I'd do?
I'd be on a fucking boat.
I'd be on a fucking boat.
$114.7 million.
And you want to send me a fucking email asking me for 15 bucks?
Bitch, in the last three years, you sent us, what, one and a half checks?
Stop it.
The Democratic Party has lost the thread.
Completely.
All leadership of the Democratic Party needs to be thrown out and replaced.
And here's the thing.
If you're over 65 or you're worth, I don't know, let's just do an arbitrary number here.
$10.7 million, you're done.
You're not in leadership.
Because that is the poorest member of the top 50. It's crazy.
And it's this woman, Jennifer Briney, she came on my podcast and she was talking about what she does with her podcast, which I really should start listening to, is she gets into like every bill and what's being put into it.
You know, I asked her, like, how do you get over your biases?
She's like, I'm just open about my bias because I don't think you can get around them.
And so she has this podcast where she'll go in and look at, like, some of the crazy stuff that gets passed attached to one bill that's for one thing.
I just don't understand how, again, that's legal.
Like, give us an example.
Like, she gave the example of...
Let me think.
The bill that she was talking about that a lot of things were attached to was, I think there was a lot of stuff with the PPP loans.
And last minute, things get attached all the time.
the example she gave was of the government like shutdowns, the debt ceiling, and they'll always cram in all these different things that they want to pass because they're basically like nice government you have.
There'd be a shame if something happened to it.
And then they try and get these other crazy things that have nothing to do with the government shutting down.
Like what?
Oh, gosh.
Why is my brain mush, Jo?
There was one with the debt ceiling recently that she was talking about, and I cannot for the life of me remember it.
Justin Amash, when he was on the podcast, was talking about how it shouldn't be like this.
It should be like you have a bill for one thing and it's not 2,000 pages that no one's read that they get...
Two days before it's supposed to pass with everybody's kind of special interest that they've tacked in.
I wish I had a better...
There are so many good examples of just like ridiculous things tacked into bills that are ostensibly for one thing and then it's like, but we need to...
If people become a part of that system once they get elected and then they go to Washington and they see how it all works and they see what it takes to succeed and that's the job that they're in.
They're in this business to try to succeed and you want to keep getting elected and you want to keep working with all those people.
And I had Dr. Phil on yesterday, and Dr. Phil was explaining, like, the worst thing that you can do, the worst thing you could do for someone like that, is put him in a position of stress.
We used to kind of give, like, Biden, we used to make fun of Biden all the time on Dumpster Fire, because he's the most powerful man in the world, and you should, but lately it just feels sad.
Because people were saying, well, the clips, they're taking them out of context, and if you look at the whole thing, he didn't do that bad, and he made some really good points, and he had some good comebacks.
I don't like the fact that he wears hoodies everywhere.
I'm running for the U.S. Senate because Washington keeps getting it wrong with extreme positions.
I want to bring civility, balance, all the things that you want to see because you've been telling it to me on the campaign trail.
And by doing that, we can bring us together in a way that has not been done of late.
Democrats, Republicans talking to each other.
John Fetterman takes everything to an extreme and those extreme positions hurt us all.
Let's take crime as an example because it's been such a big problem.
Maureen Faulkner accompanied me today to the studio.
You know that her husband was a police officer in Philadelphia, was brutally murdered.
John Fetterman, during this crime wave, has been trying to get as many murderers, convicted and sentenced to life in prison, out of jail as possible, including people who are similar to the man who murdered her husband.
He does it without the rest of the parole board agreeing.
He's doing it without the families on board.
These radical positions extend beyond crime to wanting to legalize all drugs, to open the border, to raising our taxes.
This is new that the Kardashians are supposed to be taking.
Dr. Oz hit with class action over miracle weight loss supplement claims.
Yeah, but he was actually forced to testify about this and he admitted that it was not true.
I had a bit, I was doing it for a while, that he's Oprah's bitch, and that Oprah's this pimp, and that she's like, you know, basically, you're gonna let my girl back on the street, right?
Because, like, she makes a lot of money off of his show.
If you have a fucking doctor show, and you say something that is absolutely not true, and you're selling something that's absolutely not a miracle, you probably shouldn't be doing that anymore.
Find out what he was forced to testify and see if we can find the video.
Product safety and insurance during a hearing on false advertising in the diet and weight loss industry, he presented his role clearly as the victim of unscrupulous advertisers' vicious attempts to twist his words to sell diet pills.
He was perfectly positioned to help Congress curb the tide of deceptive advertising.
There was only one problem with the doctor's plan.
Inside the hearing room, the members of the subcommittee had cast him in a different role, not as the victim of scheming fraudsters, but as the fraudster himself.
For the duration of the hour-long hearing, members of the subcommittee lined up one after another to grill America's doctor for statements he made on the Dr. Oz Show, his daytime cable program on health and wellness, laying into him for endorsements of the miraculous powers of green coffee extract and the fat-burning magic of raspberry ketone.
From his spot behind the witness table, Oz refused to back down.
He brandished printouts of scientific studies to defend his statements about various weight loss supplements, And cited transcripts of his TV appearances to show how advertisers had taken his words out of context.
At one point during the question and answer portion of the testimony, Senator Claire McCaskill, the subcommittee's chair, drew visibly agitated at Oz's evasiveness, blurting out, I've tried to do a lot of research in preparation for this trial, and the scientific community is almost monolithic against you.
it was a hearing not a trial but McCaskill slip was telling the committee was trying to put pseudoscience on trial and Oz was the star witness seven years after his dressing down at Capitol Hill Oz is making a bid to return to Washington See if he can find the testimony, because the testimony, he was forced to say that it wasn't a weight loss miracle.
I actually do personally believe in the items that I talk about in the show.
I passionately study them.
I recognize that oftentimes they don't have the scientific muster to present as fact.
But nevertheless, I would give my audience the advice I give my family all the time.
And I've given my family these products.
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And when you call a product a miracle and it's something you can buy and it's something that gives people false hope, I just don't understand why you need to go there.
My job, I feel, on the show is to be a cheerleader for the audience.
And when they don't think they have hope, when they don't think they can make it happen, I want to look, and I do look everywhere, including in alternative healing traditions, for any evidence that might be supportive to them.
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I will just tell you that I know you feel that you're a victim, but sometimes conduct invites being a victim.
Yeah, but I don't know if they're saying that they use it and promoting that they use it or if other people are pointing to this is what's causing them to lose weight.
I don't know that any social media influencers are telling people to take these peptides.
Semaglutide, sold under the brand names Wegovi and Ozempic, among others, is an anti-diabetic medication used for the treatment of type 2 diabetes and long-term weight management.
What does it do?
One weekly semaglutide in overweight and obesity, semaglutide injection.
Go back to that page that you were just on.
And what does it say?
What does semaglutide do to your body?
Click on that.
Above that, right there.
Semaglutide injection is a class of medications called N-creatin mimetics.
It works by helping the pancreas release the right amount of insulin when blood sugar levels are high.
Insulin helps move sugar from the blood into other body tissues where it is used as energy.
So is semaglutide good for weight loss?
Click on that.
Semaglutide treatment effect in people with obesity trials have shown the efficacy of semaglutide for the treatment of obesity.
In large RCTs, random controlled trials, patients receiving semaglutide 2.4 milligrams lost a mean of 6% of their weight by week 12 and 12% of their weight by week 28. So that's legit.
So weight loss outcomes associated with semaglutide, so that's, click on that?
JAMA Network, Weight Loss Outcomes Associated with Semaglutide.
So key points.
Is treatment with semaglutide associated with weight loss outcomes similar to those seen in results of randomized control trials findings?
In this cohort study of 175 patients with overweight or obesity, the total weight loss percentage achieved were 5.9% at 3 months and 10.9% at 6 months.
Semaglutide treatment in a regular clinical setting was associated with weight loss similar to that seen in randomized clinical trials which suggest its applicability for treating patients with overweight or obesity.
So this is a total of 408 patients with body mass index of 27 or more were prescribed weekly semaglutide subcutaneous injections for three months or more.
Patients with a history of bariatric procedures, taking other anti-obesity medications, and with an active malignment, neoplasm were excluded.
And the exposures, weekly 1.7 milligrams or 2.4 milligrams semaglutide subcutaneous injections for three to six months.
The results of this cohort study suggest that weekly 1.7 milligram and 2.4 milligram doses of semaglutide were associated with weight loss similar to that seen in randomized controlled clinical trials.
Did they live their life normally and not change anything, or was this a part of an overall health plan where they were trying to improve their health?
And I feel like there's been a lot of constructive pushback against that kind of narrative that women have been sold that you can just kind of wait until your late 30s to have kids because you can't always.
You might be able to freeze your eggs and you might be able to take some measures, but it's still much, much harder to get pregnant late 30s, early 40s.
Well, also, you don't kind of know who you are until later in life.
Life is so much more complicated now than when people died at 30. Yeah.
And people didn't necessarily die at 30 because they died of old age at 30. When they talk about people dying really young back in the day, a lot of it is infant mortality that has to be factored in to the percentage of the age.
Of course.
People today are living longer, and a lot of people have careers, and you don't want to sacrifice your career.
I have a small business, but I still being – I would want to create a business that supported that because it's something – Ideally.
Ideally, yes, but that is the kind of, I think, ethos that I would want to create for my business because I would want to encourage people to have families.
Unless you have a business that's like barely getting by and you have an employee and that employee wants to not work for a year because they want to have a baby.
And you're like, what are the trade-offs?
Is the trade-off that you get to keep your career and my business is fucked because I have to pay you and you don't work?
You can be so lucky to have a job that doesn't really exist, and you get wine on tap, and you get espressos and green matcha tea, and you get to go to the meditation room because you've got to unwind.
Do you know that at certain businesses, there's a business, I don't even want to say the name of the business, but my friend works at this business and they said that male employees get paternity leave of 18 months.
That fourth trimester is really something I wish I had known more about before I... It was one of those things that they say, like, the fourth trimester is that first three months when you're postpartum, and it's gnarly.
First of all, any single parent out there, male, female, who's doing this, I don't know how you do it.
You deserve awards and accolades.
And I don't know how anyone single does this because I could not have done it.
I mean, maybe I could have, but it was...
My husband and I had to tag out.
The piece I'm writing, when I went down the rabbit hole of colic, I was like, oh my god, they use inconsolable crying babies in Guantanamo to train the operatives to resist torture, essentially.
We would have to take shifts and every night you get anxious.
And it's hard as a new parent because you don't...
You feel like a failure.
You're just like, I... But I also think it's kind of a good hazing into parenthood where you're like, there's some things that are just out of my control.
But it's a whole thing.
I didn't know what it was and I'd heard about it and then people in my life who had had it were like, I said something on Twitter and someone was like, I was like, anyone have any suggestions?
And someone was like, I read this to my husband and he shuddered.
People who dealt with it have PTSD from it because it's so disturbing just day after day.
That was hard.
That was definitely a fourth trimester.
And thank God, and my husband was around at night, so thank God.
I mean, Mama Bear definitely is a real thing, despite what they might say.
Oh, yeah.
It's real.
I understand.
That's what I was saying at the beginning.
I just have eaten so much humble pie.
There's so many people in my life.
I was so...
It's so cliche.
Like, I was so self-centered.
And when I was pregnant, I'm like, why didn't I listen?
And sure, it wasn't applicable to me, but why didn't I pay attention when my sisters and sister-in-laws and all of my relatives and cousins were talking about what they went through when they had their child, you know, whether they had a C-section or a vaginal birth?
I just I know they told me these stories and I was just not paying attention at all.
And now and then I was like, tell me all your stories.
I need everything.
And on Instagram at night with Pregziety, just trying to calm myself down and feeling really like just a piece of shit.
Just a piece of shit.
Because in so many ways, I really was just like that cliché Jen exer who kind of was apathetic about all of it and was like, whatever, you don't know until you know.
I'm looking forward to your writing and it's just a new way you approach things in your podcast because whenever someone encounters just a radical change in the way they see the world, it's always fascinating for people whose opinions I value and for people that have unique perspectives.
And every time you did it, I would be like, I had to leave once and go to the bathroom when you're doing it.
Because I felt so...
I was like, what is coming up for me?
I had to talk to my therapist about it.
I'm like, there's this bit, and every time he does it, I'm like, and we talked through it, and it was that that was coming up, was like this regret about being a slut that I didn't feel like, culturally, I should have.
There's so much like, slut walk, and like, be a proud slut, and just that is the culture that I came up in, free the nipple we talked about.
A lot of the choices I made where I felt so much shame and regret about.
And I just want to say thank you for that bit.
Because that was kind of the beginning of being able to crack.
Because I'm not like one of those people who sees something in comedy that I don't like and I'm like, you're an asshole!
If something comes up for me, I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
What's that reaction all about?
And I ended up writing this piece because Louise Perry wrote a book, The Case Against Sexual Revolution, and it kind of framed what I had been feeling, and it's brilliant.
I think she's so brave for even writing it because there is—I feel like there is a lot of us, like, geriatrics— Or maybe later millennials, some Gen Xers who came up through the sexual revolution and were sold this idea of like, you can have sex like a guy and there's no consequence.
And we're coming back and we're like, it's a trap!
The fact that, you know, we're talking about introducing hormones into a person's body, introducing hormones on a regular basis to a giant swath of the female population, it shifts the way you view people, the way you see things, everything.
You view the world in a different way.
And they've done studies that shows that it changes how a woman is attracted to different men.
I never really liked it, but it unyoked sex from consequence for the first time, and In human history.
Yeah.
And like I said in this piece, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I like being able to have a job and buy a house.
Feminism is good.
But this aspect of the sexual revolution in particular, I feel like has left a lot of women feeling empty and like something is missing and that they've been sold a bit of a lie years down the road when...
And I think her book gave people like me who felt that way.
Like I was saying, hers is pretty academic.
And I was saying in my piece, like...
The conversation was a little bit like, those sluts over there!
And that book affected me in the part where you say who the book is for.
Again, mom brain.
She said, for the women who learn the hard way, and I read it and I just burst into tears.
It just made, I mean, pregnancy hormones too, but...
That, to me, I learned the hard way.
You know, there's, and the emails I've got from people from that piece, women and men, gay men, It's been really crazy, like really overwhelming actually and remarkable just how much of an actual body count there is in this wake.
And that's probably one of the reasons why you love writing, that you could write a piece and it can have this sort of profound effect where people do, they read and it resonates with how they feel about stuff.
That being one, because I've really been thinking a lot about the why of why I do things.
I love podcasting because I love connecting to people.
I love comedy because I love hearing people laugh.
It's like making my daughter laugh is the best thing in the entire world.
And laughter is just so contagious and healing.
And I love writing because a lot of the time I don't...
There's some wisdom in my fingers and I don't always know where I'm going with the piece.
It took me years to write that piece.
I regret being a slut.
I was going to write it back in 2018, and I couldn't really frame it the right way.
That book helped me frame it.
And I also had enough time to sit and think and have podcasts, conversations about it, where I think a lot of the thinking that we do in this is in real time.
Right.
And people need space to do that.
They need to be able to work out their ideas, have their ideas challenged.
And writing is where I get to sit down and really try and be thoughtful about a lot of the information that I might have been taking in.
And yeah, there is still something that is resonant about it.
And I like the idea that it's kind of like time traveling.
Like somebody could read that and I'd be dead.
And they'd be brought back to another time.
That's how reading always feels to me.
You can go into science fiction or the future or the past.