Colion Noir and Joe Rogan dissect the Uvalde shooting’s 75-minute law enforcement failure, critiquing media sensationalism of mass shootings (33% fewer copycats if reduced) while noting 63%–65% of gun deaths are suicides. Noir advocates hardening schools ($400K systems) and questions leftist gun control motives, citing Trudeau’s and Biden’s dismissals of self-defense rights. They debate universal background checks—ineffective without a registry—and contrast government overreach with Second Amendment intent to resist tyranny. Rogan highlights fentanyl’s deadly impact (100K lives saved annually if legalized) and prohibition’s unintended consequences, while Noir argues disarming civilians in a country of 400M guns is impractical, emphasizing immediate threat response over flawed mental health or regulatory solutions. [Automatically generated summary]
Because it seems like so many times when there's a gun control...
Well, you're the first guy I always call.
Because I think you're the very best at explaining gun issues from, first of all, from a Second Amendment perspective, from an enthusiast perspective, and also you're a lawyer.
You know, one, no one can deny our media does a beautiful job memorializing everything about every mass shooting in terms of the killer, what we know about him, you know, for the most part, almost sensationalizing it.
And so there is something to be said that, you know...
Someone walking into a school, somebody walking into a building where you don't expect anything shooting a bunch of people deserves that type of attention.
I'm not going to be so naive.
That's to say that, you know, I don't get why anybody, why they cover it so much.
But there is an admitted sense of helplessness when these things happen.
Where it's like, okay, so what do we do?
What can we do?
I think the scapegoat route is gun control.
Because I think what it does is it gives us the immediate gratification of, alright, we did something, we passed this, alright, let's move on and hope it never happens again.
Problem is, though, it never touches the underlying issues about why people would do this.
This is weird.
It's fucking odd.
It's not normal for people to want to go out and just kill as many people as possible.
And this guy, I mean, obviously, there was something really wrong with him.
But the the thing about the killing the children is it's like it's That's why school shootings are so fucked because they're the most horrific version of a mass shooting because you're going after innocent little kids and this was the most evil and Then there's there's also so much to this one, right?
There's so much to the amount of time that the cops were outside that they didn't do anything because they didn't want to get shot and But that's just it, too, though, which is the weird thing for me.
The same people, not the same people, but then you'll have people who say, okay, well, we need to limit and restrict these guns.
But all that does is force us to depend on people who we've already established in a lot of situations aren't necessarily incapable of being there to protect us, or in situations like this, refusing to go in and protect us.
Now, I can see someone coming up on the other side saying something about, oh, so you want the kids to have guns there, too?
Because at the end of it, when it all boils down to it, the only person we can rely on to defend ourselves is us, is you.
Somebody walks in his door right now and does something, the only people in a position to stop it in enough time to make a difference is me, you, and...
So from that perspective, I try to keep things and break things down to that simplistic level so people can understand that instead of just kind of immediately reacting to, all right, let's ban this and let's ban that and let's ban this.
But we are talking about, like you said, a group of officers who stood outside while kids were being shot and killed.
I'm going to have to agree with you in that regard.
Now, this is me not being in Uvalde, not knowing all of the intimate details about why they stood down, but at the end of the day, I have a hard time seeing what supersedes there's a guy in classrooms killing kids right now.
Because we're in a terrible time for law enforcement in that all this defund the police stuff has gotten people very skittish about I know cops that don't want to do things because they don't want to get in trouble.
They don't want to show up for things.
They want to wait before they show up for things because they don't want it to be something they have to handle because they feel tied up.
It's like we don't necessarily want cops to go in there I don't mean just in this particular situation, Evaldi, but just having—be completely let off the leash to the extent that they can do anything that they want anytime and there'll be no— Of course.
They can't be held accountable for anything, right?
While at the same time, we need them to go in without having to essentially be attorneys, you know, in the moment, trying to decide, like, I was just in Wisconsin.
And I was with the USCCA, which is a concealed carry insurance membership program.
And what we were doing was working scenario-based training.
So they set up this whole situation for me, like we're in a coffee shop, I have a girlfriend that I'm talking to, and then a guy comes in, robs the place, and a bunch of other scenarios that happen.
And because of my knowledge base and things that I'm aware of from a legal perspective, even in that moment when I'm trying to decide, do I shoot?
Sims are like the basically real guns converted into more or less fake guns, so to speak.
So they shoot these cartridges that hurt like a bitch.
They hurt and they sound like they're really loud.
The gun operates the same.
Everything's the same, except they shoot these.
It's kind of like elevated paintball.
And in this case, we weren't using the actual projectile.
What we were using was what this did is emitted a laser instead of actually shooting a projectile.
But everything else was the same.
It was loud, recall, and all of that stuff.
And so in that moment, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, all right, when is it justified for me to shoot?
Now, in that moment, in that scenario, you can only kind of mimic reality to a certain extent before, you know, you get overwhelmed with the thought of, okay, I might die.
I have the benefit to some degree to kind of think logically through, okay, if I shoot now, is it justified?
And so in that moment, when the guy's in there, he's already shot at one person, he's about to shoot another person, I'm like, okay, this is my time to shoot, but he's not shooting at me.
So if you're like, let's say if you go into a store and you see a gunfight in the store and you see a guy shooting at someone behind the counter and you're armed, are you allowed to shoot him?
You know about the case in Austin, where a guy was not, he was not charged for a long period of time, but it was at one of the protests during the pandemic, and this guy apparently was military, and he was an Uber driver.
He was Uber driving?
Yeah, so he pulled down this road, I think he was following his GPS, and he pulled down this road, and all of a sudden he's faced with the people that were blocking the road, and this guy pulls an AK-47 out and points it at him.
Let's find out what the status on that was because all my friends that are law enforcement or military were furious that he got charged because this guy literally pointed the gun at his face.
Like he's standing there pointing the gun.
What are you gonna do?
It's like how do you know if the guy's gonna kill you or not?
Like it's unreasonable to point a gun at a person in that scenario.
The only people that are going to have them are the people that have them illegally.
Exactly.
And so, if we understand that this is the country that we live in, we have a Second Amendment, we understand the culture in this country, why would we not spend...
Just even a decent amount of resources on a federal level, let's say local level, to teach people the dynamics involved with firearm ownership.
Well, because we are talking about a constitutional right.
So the standard is a lot different than say, okay, we're giving you the privilege to drive this car on the road.
So like with a car, I can own any car I want.
If I have private property, I can drive all over that private property without any education, without any instruction, or any of that stuff.
Now, the moment I want to step out into the public with this car and drive it on public roads, that's when I have to get license, get registration, and all of those things.
It was me being on the ground and seeing this shit and talking to the people.
That's what really set it off for me.
Because when I was with the NRA and we were doing these mini documentaries, going to these different places and talking to the people on the ground, they were explaining stuff to me.
You can watch the video.
You see it in my face.
I'm like, the same way you reacted is the same way I reacted when I first heard it.
I thought, like, we need more money for homelessness.
And then when I realized that it's a business, it's like a light bulb went off.
When you explained it to me, I was like, of course!
It's like everything else.
When you showed me the numbers and the people in LA making $260,000 a year to deal with the homeless situation and it's not going anywhere, I'm like, that person has a fucking great job.
But I think to a degree A lot of these leaders and politicians in the inner city need that violence in the inner city to continue as a way to justify the necessity for them being in the positions that they're in.
Yeah, like, they legit, I remember, because this was like at the genesis kind of of my two-way advocacy, when I was looking at the numbers, because I kind of initially just took the numbers for what they were.
And I just assumed, because you hear gun violence, you see, you hear gun deaths.
You're thinking people shooting at other people in the middle of the street and dropping dead, right?
And then I started looking into the numbers and I started to realize, wait, 63 to 65% are suicides?
And like I pointed out, it's not that I don't care about suicides, but then I also backdoored and I said, okay, well, let's look at the suicide rate just as a whole in America versus other places that have strict gun laws.
And I remember when I was on Bill Maher and I was sitting at the round table, we kind of started getting into that discussion.
And you would think, considering we have as many guns as we have in this country in the hands of civilians, you'd think that On the surface, we'd lead the world in suicides.
We don't.
We're not even close.
So that stands to reason that the issue with suicides isn't a gun thing.
And that's including, and then there's another percentage that includes Officer shootings, whether it's officer shooting a criminal or a criminal killing an officer, right?
So we can put that here over here as well because that's a different dynamic.
Because the whole gang-related, because now what's happening is they're taking a lot of the gang-related shootings and including them in mass shootings.
It's just kind of like what happened in Philadelphia recently, right?
It was basically, there was a shootout between, I don't know how many people it was, but there was like, I can't remember exactly where in Philly it was, but essentially, I can't remember, a lot of people got shot, and they called it a mass shooting.
It was street violence.
That's what it was.
It was two parties going at it, and they called it mass shooting.
I guess you could argue why that's considered a mass shooting, but it's not.
But in our minds, when we think about it, a mass shooting is somebody—you have an individual or multiple people who want to go and kill as many innocent people as possible, right?
We're not talking about people who are shooting each other over disputes.
This was a dispute that took place in the public.
Between two people with guns, essentially.
And so they want to call that a mass shooting.
And I'm like, that's not fair.
Because the way they deal with these types of things, they're different.
The same way you don't include the suicides and the homicides.
Because there are different reasons for why they're happening.
And so a lot of the vast majority of the gun violence, the homicide aspect of it, is from the inner cities.
That's where it's coming from.
It's these kids, literally, when I say kids, I'm talking like...
17, 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds.
They're shooting at each other.
Now, I'm not dismissing that and saying that it's irrelevant and that we shouldn't factor that in.
What I'm saying is it's a totally different reason for why it's happening.
It's not a gun issue.
It's a socioeconomic issue.
Because if you take those same kids that look like me, right?
I know a lot of black people, people of color, who live in the suburbs of America.
And they're not running around committing drive-bys in their BMWs.
They're not.
So what's the difference there?
They have access to guns the same way these kids have access to guns.
And these kids have access to guns illegally in the inner city.
The difference is it's prolonged exposure to poverty.
But nobody wants to have that conversation.
The reason they don't want to have that conversation is because it is admittedly hard to deal with.
And that is one thing that we both agree on in terms of that's one of the most gigantic and ignored problems in this country is exposure to poverty and violence your whole life.
And that these environments like the inner city, like South Side of Chicago, which have never changed.
Never.
They haven't.
They've gotten only worse.
I was in Chicago a few years back.
We were doing a gig and there was a cop who was driving us around.
And he was explaining what, you know, we're like, dude, what is going on?
Because it was like right after a big one, right after a big weekend.
And he goes, this is what happened.
They got very aggressive with arresting these drug lords.
And when they did that, they created a power vacuum.
And then these other guys stepped in to try to fill the power vacuum.
Like, in Chicago, a couple of weekends ago, I don't remember what the number was, but it was something preposterous, the amount of people that got shot.
And if you don't live in the inner city, it doesn't affect you, so to speak.
So it's easier to kind of just kind of push it off and not really pay attention to it.
However, with mass shootings, it starts spilling over into your reality.
And it's terrifying because now it's like, wait, so you mean to tell me I can't just live in a different neighborhood and be away from this type of gun violence?
Now I'm dealing with an element that's now shooting me in my area.
Right.
Because I guarantee you, these kids started crossing over and started engaging in the same violence in these other areas that be shut down in a heartbeat.
And as far as creating the vacuum that it created, you could make the argument, well, they tried to do something about it then, and it just ended up getting worse, right?
You have these things that you do, and sometimes it has an effect that you didn't intend to have.
But the problem is that we always approach it from a singular focus.
It's either ban all the guns or just arrest everybody on the streets.
We never want to have that in-depth conversation about, You got to think about what type of environment you're living in where you come up as a child.
When I say child, I mean you're 16, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and you so easily can pick up a gun and just take another person's life that looks just like you.
Oh, after mutual combat drama, Fox and Lightfoot announced charges in West Side Shootout.
Okay.
This is because they dropped the charges initially.
Okay, so it was over a year ago.
So, following the drama between Cook County State Attorney Kim Fox and Mayor Lightfoot last year over a lack of charges in a deadly shootout on the West Side, a man was arrested Thursday in connection.
Thomas Dean, 20, 19 at the time of the shooting, I guess, was charged Thursday with three counts of aggravated, unlawful use of a weapon.
That's not...
Even that!
Aggravated.
I was aggravated.
Back in October 1, a brazen shootout happened the middle of the day during a quiet afternoon in North Austin.
That's a suburb of Chicago.
North Austin, Chicago.
The shootout allegedly involved two gangs and was described like the Wild West due to dozens of shell casings found at the scene.
People believe a group of shooters targeted a house.
People inside the house fired back, killing one of the gunmen.
Following a shooting, I thought more than one person was killed.
Following the shooting, CPD said the Cook County State Attorney's Office refused to pursue charges citing mutual combat.
Imagine that.
On the street.
I mean, this isn't even, like, in the woods.
Mayor Lightfoot then...
I mean, I'm saying, like, if you know that...
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Well, if it was in the woods, no one can get hit by strays.
Fox said more charges may be brought in the future.
Whoa, you're fucking threatening more charges?
I might say someone else was aggravated.
Dean is due in court on Friday.
Well, you know, I don't have a lot of faith in this because the way it's going today, and I don't understand what happened in terms of The way DA's just sort of release people that are accused of violent assaults, it's bananas.
They just get them out of jail.
Like, in Los Angeles, it's off the charts.
Los Angeles is what?
That video that you sent me of you, like, talking to the, uh, or you playing that interview of the gang member saying he's getting the fuck out of LA? He's like, it's too hot for me.
That they're going to release another 70,000 people early who were violent criminals because they don't have any room in the jails or the DA just seems to think it's a good idea.
That's another thing, too, that people are not factoring in.
After COVID, the bottom fell out.
That's what people aren't talking about.
Like, when you had all these shutdowns and people couldn't work and basically shut down the economy, I mean, you got to understand what that does to a lot of people who are already sitting on the bottom.
And I think what it is, is a lot of people just like to live in their own little bubbles and don't like to address things until that thing breaks into their bubble.
And when it does, it's like, please, government, do something!
Make it stop right now!
And it's like, it's too late.
It's already there.
And the government you thought you were going to be able to depend on, yeah, you could depend on them when shit ain't happening.
When shit starts happening in mass, it's not even always the fact that they don't want to do anything or they just choose not to do it.
They can't.
They can't address not enough people.
So at that point, they realize, shit, I'm on my own.
And you should have realized that in the middle of the whole situation because when pretty much the world was shut down, you were on your own.
When we were having protests and riots every other day, it seemed like, and another city was burning every other day, and cops were like, yeah, there's not much we can do.
You're kind of on your own.
That should have sunk right then and there and let you know that the only person responsible for your safety is you.
If someone's breaking into your house, if someone's on your property, the amount of time that it would take for a police officer to get to you, even if they do choose to respond quickly.
And I read an article, and it even kind of blew me away a little bit, that there was a study that found, like, if the media changed the way that they handled reporting these mass shootings, we could reduce mass shootings by 33%.
Really?
Yeah, because a lot of these mass shootings are copycat.
Have you ever seen a rational sort of plan for stopping anybody before they get to that point?
I mean, one of the things that I've heard people talk about is that the FBI was aware of this guy.
But what do you do?
Exactly.
Let me tell you a story.
I'm trying to be as vague about this as possible because I don't want to get anybody in trouble.
But there was a kid at a school that...
Someone that I know is connected to and this kid took a photo and sent it to his friends of him holding a rifle saying something about gonna go to school on my way to school now something to that extent and That photo got to one of the parents and Funny.
So that's the question that I think our brainpower should be focused on trying to accomplish while understanding it's no different than a criminal, though, right?
See, a criminal becomes a criminal once he does some criminal shit.
We don't necessarily know when that's going to happen.
But again, what we're talking about is we're talking about people in positions of leadership who feel that their lives are more important than ours.
It's just—I'm not going to say it's just natural, but that tends to happen.
You start to kind of develop the sense of superiority when you're in positions of power, and you're like, well, I need the protection because I'm a person of importance.
Well, what about everyone else?
Because a lot of these people are wanting these gun control laws and removing these guns because they don't want the common people to have them because they see them as a threat to them.
That was one of the arguments about this money that's going to Ukraine, where people were like, how are you sending $40 billion to Ukraine and you're not spending any money protecting schools?
Like imagine, first of all, before we even get into protection, how about advancing education?
$40 billion would go a long way to improving schools.
$40 billion would go a long way to providing security in schools.
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You know, I mean, did you hear about how he got in?
From what I read, by the time the teacher realized what was going on and she tried to go to the door to lock it, he grabbed the door and opened it.
And he was able to get in that way.
And so my, and I've always said this, I'm like, okay, we understand that we don't want these things to happen in our schools.
So what's the first thing you do?
If somebody broke into your neighbor's house, say tomorrow, the first thing you're probably going to think of is, all right, how do I harden my house to make sure this doesn't happen to me?
That's going to be your first thought.
Why would we not do that with our children and the places that they go to school?
And I know people are like, we don't make it seem like they're living in a prison.
You can have passive defenses where optically it doesn't look like a prison.
You can have reinforced doors that don't look like prison gates.
You can do these things.
But we don't.
And to me, those are the easier things to implement before we even start talking about banning this gun, banning that gun, which will do nothing to stop these things.
Because when we talk about school shootings, the worst one we ever had was Virginia Tech.
He killed 33 people with handguns.
So from that perspective, we understand that there are going to be people who are going to try to do this.
Whether they use AR-15s, whether they use handguns, shotguns, it doesn't matter.
The goal?
Protect our kids.
Right?
When Obama was in office and his kids were in school, you think this kid would aim to get in there and do what he did?
So, there should be absolutely some measure of protection that stops this from being, stops it from being available to someone that someone could just get into the school.
Well, some places are now allowing teachers to have guns, and I watched this video where all these teachers pulled out their pistols, and they had them.
Did you see that?
What kind of world are we living in?
Listen, I want to live in a world where that's not an option because it's not necessary, right?
I think you do, too.
But we also have to live in reality.
And all of my liberal friends start screaming about gun control.
And then I say, then what?
Like, what do you mean?
Like, when you talk about the amount of guns, we've got to take those guns.
I think that's the point that's not being put out there.
Because I'm tired of hearing how all gun owners are, the blood of the babies, the kids' hands are on all gun owners who don't want any more gun control laws.
That's fucking ridiculous.
Like we have guns because we want to protect lives and the only difference is how you want to go about doing it and how we want to go about doing it It's not like well, we don't give a damn about those kids We just want our guns so we can go shoot in the backyard and just be happy and married No, we carry guns because we want to protect lives.
We just different how we want to do it Did you see what Trudeau said today? - Okay.
You have to think about what type of leader you're under who can open his mouth and say something like that as a justification for doing what he's doing as far as gun control is concerned.
It's the son of a guy who was a politician and a leader and a completely removed person from terms of regular society and the problems that other people face.
And that's a thing that the other side, and when I say the other side, I mean the gun lobby, the anti-gun lobby, has done a good job of, is creating this...
Other than using firearms for sports shooting and hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives.
We need less gun violence.
This is about freedom.
People should be free to go to the...
Okay, but this is not the main thing.
The thing that he said that was egregious was he said that they don't have the right to own guns for...
Yeah, that's not even it either.
There's an actual video of it.
An actual this is what this is a little bit further long longer ago when he was talking about They made a ban on the purchase of handguns you know the transfer of handguns the important importing handguns Yeah, so it's funny.
So I get a lot of like even my My legal mentor this is literally the guy who taught me how to argue And we go back and forth about this because he sometimes he thinks I'm too extreme on the issue sometimes and And I think the problem is he doesn't understand that the ultimate goal is for them to ban guns.
When I say that out loud, they think I'm crazy.
And I'm like, I've been doing this long enough to see where this goes.
And look at what's happening in Canada right now.
You have someone who is literally, they started off by banning AR-15s, so-called assault weapons.
And now all of a sudden, now he's talking about people don't have a right to own a handgun.
If right now in our country, people killed with rifles is about 435 every year.
435, close to 500 maybe.
More people die from getting beat to death than they do killed with an AR-15.
So if the goal is, so people's rationale is, well, these school shooters, and I'm being very specific about school shooters because the vast majority of mass shootings are committed with handguns.
Mass shootings.
School shootings, it trends on the side of AR-15s.
So, let's say we ban the AR-15s.
Then what?
Because people are saying that you guys are being ridiculous.
We just want to get rid of these scary assault military rifles.
And that's it.
And I'm like, that's not just it.
Because I know where this is going because I understand the data.
The vast majority of people that are being killed in mass shootings are committed with handguns.
It's only a matter of time before we have another one and we're having this conversation again and now you're telling us we need to ban handguns.
And you can't say them crazy because they're doing it right now in Canada.
And so that's the problem is people aren't being realistic about this conversation.
People were freaking out reading it or watching it because it was just like, it's such a crazy thing to say that you can't have a gun to protect yourself.
It's just that you do not have the right to own a gun to preserve your life.
This is the mentality that our leaders have, not only in Canada.
This is a pervasive thought process in the leaders of our country.
And this is further exemplified by the fact of how they reacted to the Heller decision.
The Heller decision— What is the Heller?
It's the Supreme Court case that said that you have an individual right to own a firearm.
And the leaders of our country literally fought back against it.
This is literally the Supreme Court case that says you have an individual right to own a firearm.
And they were still upset with that ruling.
So I should tell you everything you need to know about what they genuinely want to do.
But no one wants to acknowledge that reality.
They're like, oh, no, no, no.
We just want common sense, rational, reasonable, all these other morphous, euphemistic words.
And I'm like, that's not the case at all.
It's not.
They're looking at it from a position of control.
You're looking at it from a position of protecting lives, which I agree with you.
Let's try to do that.
I don't agree with you about how to do it.
But I can give you that.
At least I know you're coming from a position of, I just want to save lives.
I don't really know how to do it.
I think getting rid of guns might do it or banning certain guns might do it.
I can respect that.
But when it comes to our leaders and the people that are pushing this the most, and my biggest frustration, people are always like, oh, cool, you're so political.
I mean, even my left-wing friends, the ones that I know well, that just whenever a mass shooting happens, that I look on their Twitter feed, and it's always like, gun control now!
I put up a tweet not too long ago that kind of got people's panties in a bunch, but I said, half of this country wants to be ruled over.
The other half of this country just wants to be left alone.
The problem is the people who want to be ruled over want everyone to be ruled over.
And I by and large think that For a lot of people on the left, and I'm not saying everybody because I know a lot of liberal gun owners, right, who are adamant about protecting the Second Amendment, but a vast majority of them really do overly rely on the government as far as keeping them safe and giving them everything that they need.
And when you do that, your default is always going to be depend on the government.
The government inherently...
From the standpoint of wanting – utilizing the government to fix all the issues in the country, you get that from the left side of the leadership aisle because they want to gain – they want the government to gain as much power as possible in order to gain control over the people.
Whereas when you look on the other side of the aisle – Yeah, that's it.
Okay, play this because this is – We have a culture where the difference is guns can be used for hunting or for sport shooting in Canada, and there are lots of gun owners and they're mostly law-respecting and law-abiding, but you can't use a gun for self-protection in Canada.
That's not a right that you have in the Constitution or anywhere else.
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If you try and buy a gun and say it's for self-protection, no, you don't get that.
You get it for hunting.
You can get it for sports shooting.
You can take it to the range.
No problem, as long as you go through our rigorous background checks.
And one of the things that we're seeing with the debate in the States is you get more and more of the American-style right-to-carry self-defense arguments filtering up through the usual more right-wing communications channel.
Now, scroll down this thread, because in this thread, it's exposed that that's not the case in terms of their laws.
Someone pulls up the actual laws, if you keep going.
Let's see what it says here.
There it is.
Okay.
Subsection 12, 6.1, approve the transfer individual.
Individual needs a restricted firearm or gun.
Okay, here it goes.
December 1, 1998, handguns.
Only if the chief firearms instructor is satisfied.
A, that the individual needs the restricted firearm or handgun.
I, to protect the life of that individual or of other individuals.
An II, for use in connection with his or her lawful profession or occupation of.
Or, B, that the purpose for which the individual wishes to acquire the restricted firearm or handgun is I, for the use of target practice, target competition.
Okay, so A, if you look at A, to protect the life of that individual or other individuals.
So this is written in, go back to the top of this please.
So, subsection 12, 6.1, in December 1st, 1998, handguns, only if the chief firearms officer is satisfied.
So this is, it says under this gentleman, Mr. Romali, posts this on Twitter, our prime minister doesn't even know the law.
Canadian Firearms Act, section 28 AI. So it is...
It is in their law, which is fucking crazy for a guy to say that.
So the way that read to me, and listening to Trudeau, and then reading that, It's kind of like—so when it comes to concealed carry license, you have may issue and shall issue states, right?
May issue is if you can justify to the sheriff that you need this gun because of your business or your celebrity, somebody who needs to protect their life, right, then you can get a concealed carry license.
But to a regular common person— That's not enough.
There has to be an extenuating circumstance, which usually falls on the idea of I'm famous, so I need to protect myself, or I have a jewelry business and I move a lot of cash and therefore I need a gun to protect myself.
That takes it even further.
And it says, okay, technically, yes, you can own a gun if you can justify to the officer that you have an extenuating circumstance that you need to own that gun to protect your life.
And so on its face, I can read it two ways.
Yeah, you can justify it to the officer, but to the regular common person, if you're famous, you're a celebrity, or you have a certain business, then sure, they'll give it to you.
However, if I'm just a regular person, good luck actually using that to justify it.
Because they're going to say, you just being a regular person doesn't justify you needing it to protect your life.
And that's what he's saying.
Regular people don't need firearms to protect their lives.
It's special people like him and celebrities and every other elitist who may need these firearms to protect themselves.
Because I think he would rather have the population unarmed.
And I think this particularly rings true after the demonstrations that were, the trucker demonstrations, when he demonized all the truckers as being racist and misogynist.
Like, just an open, generalizing statement.
As a leader, you should be discredited, like, instantaneously.
Like, you're not a fucking leader.
Like, for you to make a generalization on hundreds, if not thousands of people that you don't even know, That is so wild and that you're going to use that to state your point that you don't want these people to be able to protest, which is crazy because it's a giant part of what a civilized democratic society is allowed to do.
There are so many people that I know that got red-pilled over this...
Listen, you know, I've had this conversation before.
I'm gonna say it again.
I am a liberal.
I am a liberal person.
I am very left-wing on almost all issues.
Except gun control.
When it comes to the Second Amendment, that's one of the ones where I'm very right-wing.
But I've been very right-wing on that for a long time.
Because I know violent people.
I've experienced violence.
I understand crime.
I just know reality and human beings.
And I don't like the idea of being unarmed.
I don't.
I don't agree that it's the safest way, and I don't buy into this nonsense that if you live a good life and you're a good person, it's not going to come to you.
So this is one of those issues where I have friends that they have this ideological wall, and this wall, they hit the wall, where there's nothing, no reasonable answer other than take away all the guns.
Well, also, part of it too is, and a good friend of mine once said this, and I was like, yeah, you're right.
The problem is that a lot of those people only see themselves as possible victims of gun violence, never the defender against it.
And when you can only see yourself as the victim, You have to rely on someone else to protect you, which is why the immediate response is, government, take them away.
I mean, I saw a little bit of it on some right-wing websites, but for the most part, it was ignored by the mainstream media, particularly by the left-wing media.
But I'm telling you, a lot of my friends that were hardcore lefties got red-pilled over the pandemic when they saw cop cars being lit on fire and houses being broken into.
And when friends got their homes broken into and they called the cops and the cops wouldn't do a damn thing about it.
They were like, holy shit.
I had so many people call me up asking me how to get a gun.
That's that whole thing where – and that's another thing that people don't realize is the way they talk about it, the way the anti-gun lobby talks about background checks, they talk about it as if we don't have background checks in this country.
Yes, it's the only way to get the word out as much as possible because I'm always dealing with either being shadow banned on this platform for a period of time and being shadow banned on that platform.
I've heard of a few people that I know personally, and I got a few messages of someone saying alternative thought is that people who were not on the platform liked that Elon bought it and joined.
There's a thing that they do, though, where they get these people comfortable, and then they somehow or another get them talking about their business, and they start talking about how they're essentially communists, about how they ban all these right-wing people or shadow ban them, where they limit the reach of their tweets.
Right now, you are trying to protect the first on a platform, and they're trying to destroy you for it.
So imagine what they would try to do to somebody like me, who is a Second Amendment advocate, and I say, I want to be able to own a certain gun, and I have to go through these extensive evaluations.
It's no different than the law we just saw in Canada, where the officer has to approve that it's for life-saving purposes.
Well, the problem with saying that people are trying to destroy him is that there's a thing that happens whenever there's conflict, whenever there's any kind of conflict.
And when you have a guy who is one of the richest men, if not the richest man on earth, and he does anything, there's going to be people mad.
Okay, so right now I'm gonna put it up there right this very second ready set go share and now I'm gonna look and we're gonna check it out bam okay no comments yet so now they don't follow me for me what Oh, never mind.
So what they'll do is they'll take a thumbnail of me, and then they'll comment in all my videos, and then tell them, call this number, and they're thinking it's me.
Call this number and you've won this free prize or something like that.
And so I got to get on there.
I'm like, I make videos.
I'm like, look, that's not me.
Stop doing that.
And then they'll like send information or in some cases send money.
I got it really bad at one point on Facebook.
Facebook's done a better job of nipping that in the bud where literally people were getting scammed out of money thinking it was me.
And then I'm like, no, that's not me.
And then people getting mad at me, like, where the hell's my stuff?
What a lot of them will do, they'll get access to someone's account on Facebook, take all of their data, use their pictures to then create a fake account that looks like a real person, talks like a real person, knows things about that.
Yeah, but there's a 12-year-old, 14-year-old, 15-year-old that hasn't been online that long that doesn't know these games and they'll fall for it one night.
At the end of the day, it could be getting a track, like the way trackers you set up on your computer, they get a keylogger on there, they find your information, or they're just trying to trick you into putting it in somewhere.
But for people that didn't hear that, it has a really significant effect on your body's ability to process alcohol.
I mean, it's not, I think it's been exaggerated by some people, you know, but there's a real legitimate effect, documented effect, that liposomal glutathione has on your body's ability to process alcohol.
And there's a lot of people that take glutathione when they're drinking to manage your body's processing.
And so for me, but I'm always, when I'm drinking like that, especially during the day, you'll notice, and some of my friends get annoyed with me because they're like, shots!
I think also, too, there's a component where, I mean, I know there are a lot of eyes on me as well, too.
Not that I, honestly, but that's not even, you talk to my friends who knew me before I kind of developed this platform, I was always kind of that way, too.
But I'm very cognizant and aware that, like, I can be out and people know me and I don't realize that they know me.
There's a limited amount of people in that space, in the gun control space, that have not just a voice but also an intelligent perspective and can have these really reasonable, even-keeled debates and discussions of things.
Maybe I'm an idiot because I know I got a lot of friends who are in the gun space who are like, man, I can't do what you do because I don't want to deal with it.
So we actually, we conversed for about 30, 40 minutes.
You know, I sat there stuffing my face while we sat and we talked, because they just opened, so it was pretty slow.
And she was like, you know, I just think there needs to be some laws.
And I'm like, you know, well, there are laws.
It's not like we're starting from zero.
You know, we have like 300 federal gun laws and then close to 20,000 on the state and local level.
And so she's like, yeah, but what about background checks?
We need background checks.
I'm like, we have background checks.
And oddly enough, like in that moment when she said background checks, I knew she didn't know that we already have them.
But I didn't want this to turn into an argument.
I wanted it to be a conversation.
So I was like, how do I retort that without making it seem like I'm being combative?
And so I'm like, well, we do actually have background checks.
Anytime you buy a gun from a dealer, you have to get a background check.
She's like, but do you really?
I'm like, yeah, you do.
And so the conversation went from there.
We didn't fix the world's problems in that conversation.
But we had an open enough conversation where I could tell she was more open-minded about certain aspects of stuff and realized some of the things she didn't know.
While at the same time, I let her speak to me in a way where I got a better understanding of where someone like her is coming from on the issue.
So that we can have that conversation in a productive manner.
It wasn't from the position of, you want to ban guns?
I don't want you to take just my right.
It wasn't that.
It was, okay, but here's the reality.
Here are the facts.
And then this is where your stance on it is.
And that's my ultimate goal for what I do, especially with my videos.
Like, a lot of people, not a lot of people, but I've seen the comments sometimes.
People are like, well, stop, you know, stop making these videos.
Not stop making the videos, but there's like this is pointless going on because they're never going to change their mind.
And I'm like, this video isn't for the extreme.
It's not even a lot of times for the people who are extremely in agreeance with me.
But, you know, it's for me, you know, like sometimes with certain celebrities, I'll get a little fruitful in the way I kind of handle the video.
But for the most part, I'm trying to educate the masses of people in the middle who are looking to get information because a lot of them either get straight up lies that is being pushed by the anti-gun lobby or they just are just ignorant.
On all the laws, the gun conversation altogether, because this has been the biggest conversation that—this is as big as the conversation has ever gotten with respect to the gun conversation in America.
And a lot of it has to do with social media.
If social media did not exist to the degree that it does right now, the state of gun rights in this country would be nil.
And that's why typically I only like to do things live.
If I'm going to do anything from an opposition standpoint, and I don't mean I'm calling people who disagree me the ops, but I like to do it live so that there's no misconstruing of what I'm saying or what I'm trying to communicate.
I'm not too prone to doing pre-recorded with them because I know how things can be taken out of context.
They've done it to me for years.
I'm a little hesitant to do pre-recorded stuff, even though sometimes my arrogance...
We'll want to.
Because I've been doing this for so long, I think, oh no, I can navigate all the tricks and stuff.
And I had to pull myself back because I'm like, there are people who are way more experienced at this and they still get caught up in that.
So I'm not going to be so arrogant as to assume I can navigate the pitfalls that come with doing something pre-recorded with people who are legitimately trying to trip you up.
And those kind of deceptive practices have always been a part of the media.
I have an opinion that I've been developing more and more lately that I feel like, almost like news should be non-profit.
I know that sounds crazy, but I feel like there should be a rigorous examination of the objective facts, what we absolutely understand, almost by like a third party that's completely unbiased and that's regulated.
And you shouldn't do that either, because then you have right-wing politics, there's left-wing politics.
They banned the video and then they said, because remember, that's when Zuckerberg got up in there and was basically like, we're treating him like a mass shooter.
So they immediately banned the video and then they were like, yeah, we're banning your account temporarily because you posted a video about Kyle Rittenhouse.
Now, I also did another video where I said, I think it was about background checks, right?
And I said, 90% of Americans do not agree with universal background checks.
So there's background checks, and then they've coined this term universal background checks, or what else do they call it?
Extended background checks, right?
So when they talk background checks, they're talking about universal or extended background checks, which is they want to require background checks for private transfers.
So for instance, like if I came here now and wanted to give you a gun here in Texas, they want it to be federally required that you and I would have to go to a gun store, you get a background check before I can give you the gun.
There are some states where you're allowed to have private transactions without requiring a background check, and then there are some states where you can't do that.
That's universal background check.
There are extended background checks.
That's what we're talking about.
The funny thing about it is most of these mass shooters are not getting their guns through private transactions.
They're getting background checks and then acquiring the firearms.
That's the weird thing about it.
But a lot of people think that we just don't have background checks at all.
And so for a lot of people, they see that and they go, well, yeah, we need background checks.
Well, we have them.
And then when we talk about private transactions, I have a problem with requiring background checks on private transfers because I know what it takes for them to be effective.
You cannot enforce a universal background check basically requiring you and I have to go and get a background check before I can give you a gun.
You can't enforce that unless there is a national gun registration.
There has to be a registry with all the guns in place that the government has with all the information, location, and everything in order for them to effectively enforce that.
Because if I pull a gun out of my bag right now and hand you a gun, Right?
And I say, this is yours.
You can keep it.
It's a gift from me to you.
And then you go about your life and the cop pulls you over and says, hey, did you get a background check for that gun?
Yeah, I did.
How would they know you're lying?
Unless they have a database of every transaction that took place with every firearm that they can go and say, well, this particular gun belongs to Collier Noir.
It's kind of like, I mean, I really honestly, I love music so much that I didn't even want to let my brain go there because I know that I probably wouldn't be able to justify it.
They've taken people that type X amount of words per minute, and they can improve the number of words per minute that they write just using a Lenovo.
Just using those long throw keys.
Let's see, but that's only PC. Yeah, but you can get a keyboard, like a Bluetooth keyboard, that will mimic that.
They have some hardcore ones, like mechanical keys, which are incredible, because they have like clickety-clack to them, and you know exactly whether or not you pressed a T or an R, and when you do it like that, man, it's like your errors, it's like for me, When I write, 65% of the time I'm stoned.
Well, I think the reason why I don't like that is because I'm constantly going back and forth to my mouth because when I'm writing, I'm researching at the same time.
So I'm like writing, going here, going here, click.
I just like it to be the thing I think about the least.
One of the things I really love about both, I have a Samsung phone too and I can do it on that as well, is that I can talk into my notes and I can, you know, like if I'm out and I have an idea, I just like a lot of, like all this, a lot of this shit, these are ideas that I have for material, a lot of that shit I just talk into my phone and it types it out.
But the AirPods, I put this up on Instagram the other day, but if you're a person that gets in the sauna, get yourself some AirPod 1s, the first generation AirPods.
Don't get AirPods 2, don't get 3, and don't get the Pros.
Those are good too, but they're good in terms of sound, but in terms of the ability to withstand sauna.
It's just the heat of the sauna.
The problem is it cooks the microphone.
It either cooks the microphone or the sweat kills the microphone.
I'll try answering the phone like, where the What the fuck are you calling me from?
No one can understand me at all.
So I have like a pair of AirPods that I have killed that just died recently, but I cooked those motherfuckers four or five days a week for like the past two or three years, and they just died.
One of them, the left one, I sit with my left side near the heater, and it just tapped out the other day.
I will say, being out, like, I remember I did the shooting course, and it was, like, shooting at extended ranges, so we're shooting out to, like, 600, 700, 800 yards.
And laying, and it was just white, just all snow.
And that was just...
Amazing.
That I love.
But then again, I'm like decked out in these super tucked out.
The only time I don't do it is right after I lift, because apparently it has some sort of an effect on hypertrophy, which limits your muscles' ability to grow, because part of the inflammation is actually good.
The blood circulation, your body breaks down, you get that pump, it breaks down the tissue, and it swells up and inflames, and it's your body saying, okay, we've got to heal, this guy's trying to get swole, you know, and then you want...
My knees are so much stronger like they feel more stable like everything about it I noticed a big difference cuz like I started noticing it when I was shooting like I just think in my videos when I'm doing gun reviews I like to just run for no reason but as I got older I just thought I was like why am I moving so just stiff like I'm just like nothing feels Tight.
And this would happen, like, not on a regular basis, but regular enough where I'm like, Started feeling normal, and then I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna have to stop doing this.
So there may or may not be pictures of my dick floating around on the internet.
Yeah, I think it's one of those things where it's like the variation of human beings in terms of like what they like and what they don't like is so extreme.
Thank God dick pics weren't a thing when I was 15. Just think about when you first started getting laid when you were 16. Imagine if there was dick pics.
Well, the thing is with deepfakes, it doesn't matter anymore.
Like, deepfakes, there's like every beautiful woman that has ever been in a movie or a television show could easily be in a porn just through a deepfake now.
I wonder if there's something to be said about them kind of, you know, reaching that level of technology and a lot of guys transcending from OnlyFans over to those things.
I think it was something I saw on Instagram where a guy was talking about, like, he went to a guy's house because he was doing, like, some cable work or something, and he walks in and he's like, all these sex dolls.
I think there's going to come a time where it might actually never even get to that because virtual reality might get to a point where they have, you know, they have these haptic feedbacks.
It's like you were talking about with the guns getting zapped.
But I think they're going to get to a neural interface where they're going to be able to recreate the sensations.
Like if they can figure out- Talking about pacifying a society.
Right?
Well, that's The Matrix.
I mean, what's crazy about The Matrix is when the movie first came out, which is like, when was it?
It was in the 90s, correct?
99. So when the movie first came out, we're like, we were fascinated by it, like, whoa, cool.
Now, you watch The Matrix 1 now, you're like, how far off are we?
Not that far.
Within our lifetime, I expect there to be a dilemma where people do not want to go outside, they only want to lock into a thing and experience a fake life.
So, like, sometimes when, like, somebody's, like, riding me a little too close and we're both speeding and it gets slightly annoying, so then I'll just move over and slow.
It's kind of like the paddles sometimes, where like, do you prefer the paddles mounted to the steering column, or you want them like where they're static, or do you want them mounted to the steering wheel so that when they turn, they turn?
Because I want to be able to run it to its absolute limit.
And so without having to worry about having too much power or having to navigate the power, I can just run it ragged and just focus on the driving experience.
They used to carry them in between their fingers for the most part.
And they used to be able to shoot multiple arrows, especially the Comanche.
They would carry these arrows.
Who's that gentleman that has that YouTube page that he figured out from looking at old images and depictions of archery from thousands of years ago, realized that our idea of them having a quiver and pulling an arrow out and See, he keeps them all in his fingers like that, and this guy figured out how to shoot multiple arrows in a second.
Yeah, they used to do that for revolvers before they figured out semi-automatic pistols.
But so the Colt had this and nobody wanted them.
Which is wild!
And then he figured out how to use them against the Comanche, because they had to do a bunch of different things to deal with the Comanche.
And that's the gun.
And see if there's a video on that.
That's Captain Jack Hayes.
That guy right there, that's the image that we have outside, along with Quanah Parker, who was the guy who his mother was captured by the Comanche, and he was the chief of the Comanche.
He was half Comanche and half white.
And he became the last Comanche chief.
And it was interesting because he was half European, so he's a big fucking dude.
As opposed to most of the Comanches were like 5'5", 5'7".
They were tiny, which allowed them to ride horses better.
Which is interesting too, right?
So this is how the gun worked.
So this original revolver He was the first to implement this in war.
Like, that's where we're going and how fast we're going, which is all just, you know, from a gun perspective, it's weird sometimes because, you know, people look at the Second Amendment like, it's talking about muskets!
It's so, okay, so you want to relegate me to a musket while the government and all the criminals are using modern firearms, I'm supposed to only have a musket.
They pretty much bulldozed right over those people.
And then you go counter that with the American narrative, say, for instance, what happened in the 1960s with the Black Panthers showing up on the Capitol.
You had a group of black men in the 60s showing up to the Capitol, and all they could do was have a standoff.
It's the idea, like, for a lot of people, conceptualizing the idea that they would have to deal with the tyrannical, especially here in America, to deal with the tyrannical government in their minds.
Yeah, you know, there was a video that Samuel Rivera put out about a rant that I made.
A lot of people got their panties in a wad about it because I was talking about freedom.
And I said essentially that every single civilization up until 1776 was a dictatorship.
And they were like, what about Greece?
They all fell apart, man.
They all fucking fell apart.
Like, these ideas are great until...
Greece is actually a great example because, you know, there's a guy named Brian Mirorescu who wrote a book called The Immortality Key that's all about the ancient Greek societies and the Enlightenment and that this is most likely due to the fact that these people were all taking psychedelic drugs until it was shut down by the Roman emperors.
Like, they came in and shut everybody down.
And the reason why they shut everybody down, because you can't control people who are tripping balls and inventing democracy.
But there's a lot of strength in understanding that there's paths to different ways of looking at things that you just need to let go and find those ideas and concepts.
I think what it is, too, it's so like, you know, I'm an only child.
And so I've spent a lot of time with myself.
And so one thing about, like, I'm not really big on trying to control people.
Like, I'm very big on, like, do you, right?
My control is always kind of of myself.
It's a matter of, since I've spent so much time with myself and what goes on up here, I don't like the idea of anything interfering, what could possibly interfere with that.
I understand what you're saying.
Now, I will say, I'm not saying that there aren't things that could make that better, right?
That could help enlighten and elevate.
I just don't know right now if I'm at a point where I think the benefit is worth a potential risk.
These things that I got paranoid about, it's probably like some unresolved issues or some thoughts that I have in my head that I need to really work out.
It's definitely not for people with a tendency towards schizophrenia.
That's a fact.
You know, I had a debate once with this guy, Mike Hart, who's a cannabis doctor from Canada, and Alex Berenson, who is a guy who used to write for the New York Times, who wrote a book called Tell Your Children that's all about the dangers of marijuana.
And, you know, and I was on his side.
I was like, not on the cannabis doctor's side in some ways.
Because I don't like people when people talk about it like, it's only beneficial, it's only good.
I don't think there's anything.
You know, some people die when you give them peanuts, right?
And I think the argument against that is kind of silly.
Because you look at the amount of cocaine that makes its way into this country that's laced with fentanyl and people start dying left and right because it's unregulated.
Well, one thing they're talking about is the amount of people that have died of overdose, 18 to 49. It's the number one killer of people 18 to 49. And no one's talking about it.
And no one's talking about that.
While they're trying to ban guns, like, what are you doing to stop the cartel from bringing fentanyl-laced cocaine in?
Because, and this is an uncomfortable state, and this is coming from a person who's never done cocaine in his life.
If you had legal cocaine, you would kill most of those deaths, or excuse me, you would eliminate, that's a bad word, kill.
You would eliminate most of the deaths due to overdose from fentanyl.
Like, when did fentanyl overdoses start making their way into the United States?
And by the way, all the precursors for that shit come from China, and they all go into Mexico, and people are profiting, and it's a dirty business, man, where billions and billions of dollars are being generated, and they're being generated exclusively by illegal drug cartels.
And there's nothing you can do about that.
And the amount of resources they have because of that, I mean, you've seen some of the fucking warfare that they have, the cartel- Warfare?
There was a number they had the other day where they were talking about the number of illegal aliens that make their way through the southern border every day, and it's astounding.
Like, what would be the move to stop fentanyl from getting into this country?
I mean, the real hard truth is, people don't want fentanyl.
That's not what they want.
They want to get high, and they want to get high in a way where...
You know who Dr. Carl Hart is?
I've had him on my podcast several times, and he's a brilliant professor at Columbia who also does drugs.
He talks openly about it.
I mean, he looks like a guy who does drugs.
He's got dreads.
But he's brilliant, and he's unusual in the fact that he was a clean, straight-laced research professor who, upon His examination of these drugs in a research setting started realizing that our ideas of them were completely exaggerated and screwed and he enjoys heroin but he'll snort a little bit of it and like have great conversations and have a wonderful time with his wife and but he talks bravely about it where like if you're a fucking professor
at a university like who the fuck is out there talking about doing schedule one drugs yeah I mean, look, I'm not at all near anywhere that shit, but I mean...
Right, but if someone's child died of an overdose because they made cocaine legal and they just started doing cocaine, they had a heart attack and died, you'd be like, blood is on your hands.
I'm like, are you sure?
Because it's not like it's hard to get it now.
We would have to have that kind of really uncomfortable conversation.
They had those old ones with the circle thing, the circle magazine.
Yeah, that is a wild time when you think about the amount of money that was transferred to illegal organizations just because people wanted alcohol and the government had designed...
And I think, too, to a certain degree, especially when we talk about the gun stuff, too, I think we create the problems because we're always looking to our leaders to give us oversimplified solutions to complex issues.
And we don't give them the leeway to try to figure it out.
We want the answers now.
So we kind of almost, to a certain degree, force them to say, let me grab on to the easiest, most visible way to say I'm solving this solution so they can get off my back.
Or I can look like I'm not incompetent.
Because we want our solutions now, we want them fast, and we want them easy.
And that's, I think, the major problem that we're having in terms of our dynamic and relationship with our leaders and the public as a whole.
It's because we always want an oversimplified solution to very complex problems.
And we don't give them enough time.
We don't even give ourselves enough time to work through the problem.
We have so many unresolved, super complex problems in this country, too, like extreme poverty, what's happening in certain inner cities like the South Side of Chicago, like Detroit, Baltimore.
There's many of them that you could point to that have never changed.
They're the same as they were decades ago.
If anything, they've gotten worse, and there's no effort to really have a compromise.
People are starting to learn to train how to use guns.
I mean, they're using airsoft guns to do it, but they're learning how to use firearms in the event China decides to invade, which is also an interesting thing.
And I keep telling people this all the time when we talk about, you know, respect to the Second Amendment.
Like people forget that Second Amendment wasn't written for hunting.
It wasn't written for sports shooting.
It was written so that people had a means to check potential tyrannical government, foreign or domestic.
They're like, well, I was talking about the militia.
And I'm like, let's say that, just take it outside of the political realm.
It makes no sense.
If the purpose that it was written was to allow the people to have the ability to check a potential tyrannical government, domestic or foreign, why would they write in the Constitution telling the government that they have the ability to own firearms?
It makes no sense.
Right.
And if it's designed for the people to be able to check a potential tyrannical government, foreign or domestic, does it make sense that the people would have to go to that government that's being tyrannical to get the guns to fight back against that government?
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because we understand that a militia, which is comprised of the people, is needed in order to protect the security of the state which is created.
There was a video of a girl, woman, by the way, who was talking about taking arms up against the people.
And this was about lockdowns during COVID. And she was talking about, if you don't think that I would take arms against you and shoot you, That you're crazy.
Because when you give a person a gun and you give a person a sense of power and then give a person this sense of entitlement that they're entitled to tell people what to do and enforce laws like there's just a natural tendency that people have.
But we still have this problem with mass shooting.
So what the fuck is the solution to temper that, to stop that, to mitigate that, to do something to keep evil, destroyed, disturbed people from getting their hands on guns.
So let's put things in the framework of the reality we are in.
The vast majority of the people who are committing mass shootings are getting their guns legally.
It's not like they're getting them off the streets legally.
They're getting them legally.
And the way they're able to get them legally is because they're passing background checks.
The vast majority of mass shooters pass background checks to get their guns.
They're passing background checks because they don't have criminal history.
They don't.
So, if you're just going to look at this from a gun control perspective, your only option is to ban guns.
That is your only option.
If you're only going to look at this from a gun control perspective, because we already have everything in place to prevent this.
We have background checks.
They're passing them, right?
So they're passing background checks because they don't have criminal histories and they're getting these guns and they're committing violence.
In any event that they do have a history that could have prevented them from doing it, the system failed.
The Charleston shooter, he shouldn't have never had the gun.
But the way the system was executed, the way they conducted the background check, there was a mistake.
He's got his hands on a gun.
What, are you going to make the background check more back-checkier?
No, because the system is run by humans that are inherently flawed.
So what do we do when the system breaks down even though we have things in place to stop it?
You have to be in a position to deal with the threat immediately.
Nobody likes that because the idea of self-defense in the moment is ugly.
It's nasty.
It sucks.
You fight.
You understand what that's like.
At the end of the day, first and foremost, you need to put yourself in a position to protect yourself and stop it immediately.
Then we can start working our way towards, alright, how do we deal with the even more complex issues?
Because telling me that I just can't own this gun or that gun or this gun...
It's lunacy and it's moronic.
We have over 400 million guns in this country.
You think you're going to write a law that says we're not allowed to have AR-15s anymore and now you're no longer going to see mass shootings where AR-15s are involved?
Doesn't make sense.
And then even if you do, AR-15s make up less than a fraction of the guns used in actual gun deaths.
So what is the solution if these people are passing background checks and they are getting guns legally and they're still committing these horrific mass murders?
So from a mental health perspective, we can have the conversation about what type of evaluation would take place that would preclude some...
Like, what type of diagnosis would be required to preclude somebody from their Second Amendment right to own a firearm, even though they've actually never committed a crime?
So somebody who has anxiety, are we going to prevent them from owning a gun?
Somebody who has transient depression, are we going to prevent them from owning a gun because they get depressed sometimes?
Where's that line?
And so that's where things start getting excessively complicated and incredibly subjective.
Because which doctors are going to make this decision?
Right?
Right.
Well, one doctor who's like, I mean, people who have anxiety or borderline depression or the case may be, they're not violent people.
And then you have another doctor who is on the payroll of some big timer who has, who's incredibly anti-gun and says, nope, I need you to find that anybody who has anxiety won't be allowed to have a firearm.
But then the whole mental health spectrum is so broad and so complicated that you're not going to get anything as definitive as anybody who has anxiety or depression can't own guns.
You're not going to get that.
It has to be action-based or potentially action-based.
If you're in the process of, say, like you can be charged with attempted murder because you took substantial steps to go and murder somebody.
You may not have been able to do it, but you took substantial steps to do it.
So therefore, we can charge you with attempted murder.
Now, somebody, for instance, there have been numerous stories where people have said, they've written, I'm going to kill these people.
They have lists of names they're going to do.
They've acquired firearms.
They've shown behavior that says that they're willing to do these things.
You can take a substantial step enough to say you are a potential mass shooter, and you can be charged with that.
We have laws to deal with that.
So I don't understand why people don't understand the reality of that.
It's not as simple as saying, well, everyone just needs to have a mental health evaluation.
When people want to have a solution, then all of a sudden it becomes political.
And it doesn't become political in that there's necessarily some sort of an interest to get the people unarmed, as much as there is to come up with at least a paper solution that makes people satisfied that their politicians are doing the work.
And that's another thing that doesn't get done very well, is putting in hate boxes, but for the sake of making the necessary distinctions of the people having the conversations, right?
You have the politicians, like, they really don't want anyone to have guns.
They're there.
Then you have people who just hate guns, don't want to be a part of that.
They're people who really just want solutions, right?
They're like, look, people are dying.
We need to do something.
This seems like the easiest thing to do because I think it'll work.
There are a lot of people like that.
Their motivation, everything about it is positive.
It's good.
They have the same desire that people in the gun community have to figure out a way to save lives.
But at a certain point, we do have to understand, we have to confront reality.
400 million guns in this country.
We have over 300 million people in this country.
Just those numbers alone, they're going to be substantially more crazy people who haven't done anything crazy than other places.
People always want to compare us to the UK. So the UK as a whole is about the size of New York.
So naturally, you're just going to have more people willing to do crazy stuff like that because we have so many people from different backgrounds and just so diverse in terms of upbringing, you name it.
So we're going to be more exposed to people who are willing to do things like that.
So as a result of that, we need to empower the people who aren't like that to be able to stop it when it arises.
And you don't do that by making people defenseless.