All Episodes
May 19, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:35:28
Joe Rogan Experience #1821 - Bert Kreischer & Tony Hinchcliffe
Participants
Main voices
b
bert kreischer
01:30:37
j
joe rogan
01:33:46
t
tony hinchcliffe
13:56
Appearances
a
amber heard
01:01
c
camille vasquez
03:22
j
jamie vernon
01:26
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
bert kreischer
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience.
joe rogan
Train by day!
Joe Rogan Podcast by night!
unidentified
All day!
joe rogan
So, explain.
So, bogey, what's the best?
What's a pro-level golfer?
bert kreischer
Scratch.
Scratch is, if you're...
joe rogan
So Santino's like pro-level?
bert kreischer
No, so pro's different, so he's not playing from the tips.
joe rogan
Oh, by the way, cheers, gentlemen.
bert kreischer
Cheers.
Cheers.
Cheers, gentlemen.
I miss you guys.
tony hinchcliffe
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
So we should talk about how this podcast came about.
Not me and Bert.
Bert and I got stem cells today at Waste Well.
Shout out to Brigham.
And then we got something to eat.
Got some barbecue.
And we were driving, and I see this yellow Corvette.
And I go, is that the great and powerful Tony Hinchcliffe?
tony hinchcliffe
It's me at a red light.
joe rogan
And I go, what are you doing?
He's like, nothing.
Chilling.
I go, come do a podcast with us.
And so we're here.
bert kreischer
I saw the car, and I was like, goddammit, that's what Carly-Ann wanted.
It's a fucking badass car.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're dope.
bert kreischer
You guys are cool with cars, man.
I wish I had better taste in cars.
tony hinchcliffe
Move here.
You will.
It happens naturally.
joe rogan
What's wrong with your taste in cars?
bert kreischer
I am an old man.
I liked a sedan, a big-bodied sedan.
joe rogan
Sedans are nice.
bert kreischer
With a nice, cool, dark interior.
unidentified
Ooh.
bert kreischer
Yeah, like a chocolate interior.
joe rogan
You know what you should get?
bert kreischer
What?
A new Cadillac.
So the car I wanted that I really liked was when they came back out with the Continental.
They came back out with the Continental and I said, that's my car.
I went and drove it and it didn't feel solid to me.
joe rogan
Well, get a Mercedes.
bert kreischer
I got a Mercedes.
joe rogan
Do you?
bert kreischer
Yeah, I got whatever the one is.
joe rogan
You got the S-Class?
bert kreischer
Yeah, I think.
I don't know.
You don't even know what you have.
I don't even know what I have.
I know it's the big one.
You know, the big one.
But like I said, one time I told someone it was AMG, because the wheels say AMG, and then they were like, and I fucked up, and it turned into a drunk fight.
Like, bitch, you didn't get an AMG, and I was like, yeah, I think I did.
I don't know what it says AMG. I don't know what the fuck I have.
So I just got it.
Tom's guy got it for me.
joe rogan
So you just don't have any interest in cars.
You wish you had an interest in cars?
bert kreischer
I do, because I look at, like, it looks fun.
Like, it looks fun.
Like, when getting in your car today, I was like, that would be fun to have this.
joe rogan
Yeah, it would be.
You should get into cars.
Is it getting in the way you're drinking?
bert kreischer
Number one, I don't drive much because I do drink.
I never have driven to the store.
I heard someone talking about the parking rules at the store.
I was like, who drives to the store?
And I literally said that.
I was like, I get an Uber to the store.
I have some cocktails.
And I Uber home.
I'm really a stickler about drinking and driving.
joe rogan
Good for you.
bert kreischer
I don't drink and drive at all.
That's smart.
And so, like I said, I wouldn't mind a Sprinter.
joe rogan
Sprinter van.
bert kreischer
Yeah, and have a driver.
I'd like a driver more.
joe rogan
We talked about...
Jamie and I talked about...
Yes.
Jamie and I talked about taking one of those Sprinter vans and turning it into a mobile podcast studio.
bert kreischer
Steve-O has that.
joe rogan
Does he?
bert kreischer
Yeah, Steve-O has it.
Steve-O's podcast is pretty fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bert kreischer
He does good fucking interviews.
There's a thing...
joe rogan
Smart guy.
bert kreischer
He's a smart guy and he has this thing where he kind of...
I don't know if it's his past life of not seeing consequence, but he doesn't have a problem asking a very uncomfortable question.
And he doesn't have a problem telling a good story that may be too much.
He was told a story about him and Pontius sharing a chick one time.
joe rogan
Steve-O with Joey Diaz.
He's got Joey Diaz in there.
bert kreischer
Yeah, he's great, man.
And he's like, one of the best two guest bears we've ever had is Steve-O. Really?
Yeah, I showed him my dick.
joe rogan
That made it a good show!
bert kreischer
It was fucking- Steve-O's like fucking crazy like that.
Like, he's fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
He's just a fun dude.
joe rogan
I'm amazed at how healthy he is, considering all the shit that he's done.
I mean, that guy has beaten his body up in a way that very few people have.
And still he's okay.
Like, he seems fine.
He's walking around.
bert kreischer
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
He's brilliant.
I watched his special that he made, and he mixed in actual, like, his own written jackass-style stunts into his thing, into his stand-up, and, like, there's, like, parts where it goes back and forth, and he does some of the funniest jackass-style stunts I've ever seen.
He does this one where he's bicycling around like an actual pro-bicyclist.
But instead of wearing the tight black shorts, he just painted his entire, like, penis and balls and up to his knees blatantly black.
bert kreischer
And he's talking to people naked.
He's naked.
unidentified
He's naked.
tony hinchcliffe
And he keeps crashing his bike right around people, and people are like, oh my god!
And they want to, like, catch him and stuff, and then they see it.
It's so funny.
bert kreischer
He brought me over to his house.
When he was doing that, he was like, hey man, would you come over to my house and help me with my special?
And I was like, I don't understand what the fuck he's talking about.
So I go over.
And he's got his special, but his special, he's also got these great clips.
He's got a clip, he tells a story on stage about swallowing an ounce of marijuana in Europe, and it getting stuck in his throat, and then him having to go into the, I'm not gonna tell his own story, it's his special, but he's got some fucking crazy stories.
And I'm sitting there watching it going like, Really thinking, I should have done this.
Why didn't I do this for Travel Channel?
I have great stories at Travel Channel.
I show the footage, tell the story.
It's like really good.
He's a solid dude, man.
I'm glad he got sober.
He's one of the guys you go, I'm glad he got sober.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too.
bert kreischer
And then I look at people that got sober and get bummed out.
joe rogan
Like who?
bert kreischer
Like Brad Pitt.
I'm like, I wish you still partied.
joe rogan
Didn't he get sober though because of his relationship?
Wasn't that probably one of the reasons why he was drunk?
She was mad at him.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
I don't know him.
Tommy knows him.
They're buddies.
joe rogan
There was like a thing where something happened on a plane.
bert kreischer
Or private jet, they had to stop to emergency stop because he was...
joe rogan
He was too drunk?
bert kreischer
Yeah, I think his...
I'm not going to speak for Brad Pitt.
I'm trying to get out of the business of talking shit about people.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
Dude, I've done it a lot.
joe rogan
It's boozing.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Once you start boozing, the lips start flapping and the words start flowing freely.
bert kreischer
Like last night at the Vulcan.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, that green room was a hot tea.
Hot tea was served.
joe rogan
I love a good gossip session.
bert kreischer
I do too.
joe rogan
It's important.
But there's so much gossip flowing around these days.
It's intense.
bert kreischer
It's almost too overwhelming.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
You look at some of the gossip going around and you're like, I'm gonna need half a day to sit and watch four podcasts to figure out what's going on.
unidentified
I can't.
joe rogan
I just can't.
I'm so balls deep into this Amber Heard, Johnny Depp podcast.
It's not a podcast.
You know, the trial.
I can't stop.
bert kreischer
Yeah, my dad.
My dad too.
joe rogan
I was watching today.
Today, her attorney said, I'm doing my best.
And she took a deep breath.
Her attorney, her attorney is in the middle of the whole thing.
She's like, I'm doing my best.
In the middle of, like, questioning.
bert kreischer
Oh my god.
joe rogan
She's just giving up.
She's like, this is fucking done.
Like, I've got a crazy person as a client.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I don't know anything.
I know that she said that he beat her up, and he said that she beat him up, right?
joe rogan
Well, he has recordings of her admitting she beat him up.
There's no recordings ever of him saying that he beat her up.
There's no evidence that he beat her up.
There's no images of her battered and bruised like she said.
She said he punched her in the head and then the next day there's photos of her and there's nothing wrong with her.
And he always wears rings.
And that's one of the things they confronted her on.
They said Johnny always has rings on all of his fingers.
Where are the marks on your face?
She's insane.
The best part, though, was her lying about donating the money to the ACLU and the Children's Hospital.
She said, yes, I pledged the money.
And they go, no, you said you donated the money.
I did pledge the money.
Now, you said you donated the money.
That's not true.
That's incorrect.
I did.
I pledged the money.
And she keeps saying that I pledged the money.
Like, she's a literal insane person.
Like, she's nodding.
See if you can find that clip and play it, because it's so bonkers.
bert kreischer
So let me get this straight.
She...
Is the whole reason this is happening, correct?
joe rogan
He is suing her for defamation because she wrote a whole article saying that he beat her and she kept coming out and saying she's a victim of domestic abuse.
It's 100% a smear campaign.
bert kreischer
And so, theoretically, she could have just said, hey, it's not working out.
Can I have a hundred million dollars?
I'll go my own way.
joe rogan
I don't think she got a hundred.
She got seven.
He wouldn't have given her a hundred.
bert kreischer
Whatever, whatever.
I don't know the laws.
joe rogan
They weren't married for that long, man.
She got seven million, which is incredible.
unidentified
Is this the thing?
joe rogan
I'm not sure if this is it.
I just wanted to make sure before we play it, sort of.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
You just play it right there.
Give me some volume.
unidentified
You're a liar, making it impossible for me to move on.
joe rogan
Look at her face expressions.
unidentified
Yeah.
So that I wanted the truth.
amber heard
I wanted him to clear my name and to leave me alone.
unidentified
I've been saying that since 2016. So why did you donate 3.5 to Children's Hospital and 3.5 to ACLU? Well, I pledged the first half or 3.5 to...
joe rogan
No, this is the wrong one.
This is her attorney.
You want to get his attorney, which is a woman.
Her name is Claire.
And she was cross-examining her and crushing her.
It was hilarious.
It's hilarious to watch because she keeps saying, stop.
That's not what I said.
That's not what I asked.
I asked, did you, in fact, not donate the money?
She says, that's not true.
I pledged the money.
unidentified
That's correct.
joe rogan
She kept saying, I pledged the money.
And then she made this analogy.
She said, when you buy a house, you don't pay for it all at once.
You get a mortgage.
And it's like, you're not buying a house.
You're donating the amount of money.
She goes, well, I couldn't because Johnny sued me.
And then they said, but Johnny didn't sue you until 18 months after you got that money.
It's so wild.
She's so crazy.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
unidentified
Is this the right?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Back it up a little.
Back it up a little.
That's correct.
No, back it up.
Back it up.
tony hinchcliffe
That's correct.
You stated you would be donated.
camille vasquez
You stated you would be donated.
So in October of 2018, you had received your entire $7 million divorce settlement.
You agree with me?
unidentified
That is correct.
joe rogan
That is good.
unidentified
Right here.
camille vasquez
And you hadn't yet been sued by Mr. Dopp.
unidentified
This is October.
Correct.
camille vasquez
So in this October 2018 interview, you said that you had, quote, donated.
End quote.
Your entire divorce settlement to charity, right?
unidentified
That's correct.
camille vasquez
And in fact, your exact words were, quote, $7 million in total was donated to, I split it between the ACLU and the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles, end quote.
unidentified
Right?
That's correct.
amber heard
I made that statement as soon as I got a divorce and we reached the settlement.
joe rogan
That's when I pledged it, right then.
unidentified
Pledged it.
camille vasquez
And you say this because you, quote, wanted nothing, end quote.
unidentified
That is correct.
camille vasquez
But you hadn't donated your entire $7 million settlement to charity at that point, had you?
unidentified
That's incorrect.
joe rogan
Here it goes.
camille vasquez
Sitting here today, Ms. Hurd, you still haven't donated the $7 million divorce settlement to charity.
Isn't that right?
unidentified
Incorrect.
amber heard
I pledged the entirety of this settlement, $7 million to charity, and I intend to fulfill those obligations.
camille vasquez
Ms. Hurd, Ms. Hurd, Ms. Hurd, Ms. Hurd, that's not my question.
Please, try to answer my question.
Sitting here today, you have not donated the $7 million, donated, not pledged, donated the $7 million divorce settlement to charity.
amber heard
I use pledge and donation synonymous with one another.
camille vasquez
But I don't, Ms. Hurd.
joe rogan
I like how she's not looking at her.
bert kreischer
She looks at everyone else.
unidentified
That's how donations are paid.
camille vasquez
Ms. Hurd, respectfully, that's not my question.
As of today, you have not paid $3.5 million of your own money to be a field lawyer.
Yes or no?
unidentified
I have not yet.
camille vasquez
And as of today, you have not paid $3.5 million of your own money to the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles, correct?
unidentified
I have not yet.
Johnny sued me.
camille vasquez
So as of today, you have not donated, paid $7 million of your divorce settlement to charity, right?
amber heard
I have not been able to fulfill those obligations yet.
camille vasquez
And that's because you did want something, didn't you?
amber heard
I didn't want anything and I didn't get anything.
camille vasquez
You wanted Mr. Depp's money.
amber heard
Didn't get it, wasn't interested in it.
I loved Johnny, that's why I was with him.
camille vasquez
You wanted praise for donating the money, right?
unidentified
That's incorrect.
camille vasquez
You wanted good press.
unidentified
In general, one does want good press, yes.
camille vasquez
You wanted to seem altruistic publicly.
unidentified
It wasn't my interest.
amber heard
My interest is in my name and clearing my name and At the time, I was being called a liar and my motives were being questioned.
I did see it as important to clear that up.
I wanted to make a statement to make sure that there was not any doubt that I couldn't be labeled these things just because Johnny was a bigger star and had more publicity.
bert kreischer
She is looking at the jury.
camille vasquez
You wanted to remind everyone of your claims of domestic violence against Mr. Depp, right?
unidentified
No, I wanted to move on with my life.
camille vasquez
You wanted to make those claims seem believable.
unidentified
They are believable.
camille vasquez
They were believable.
You wanted them to be seen, you wanted to be seen, excuse me, as a noble victim of domestic violence, didn't you?
unidentified
I have never, never wanted to be seen as a victim.
amber heard
Nor have I ever called myself one.
camille vasquez
You testified under oath that, quote, the entirety of your divorce settlement was donated to charity, end quote, didn't you?
unidentified
That's correct.
I pledged the entirety.
Here it goes.
camille vasquez
No.
Ms. Hurd, my questions.
Your counsel will have time to redirect you after.
You testified under oath, quote, the entirety of your divorce settlement was donated to charity, end quote.
unidentified
That is correct.
I pledge the entirety.
camille vasquez
I'm going to move to strike everything after, yes.
unidentified
All right.
There's nothing to strike here.
camille vasquez
Ms. Hurd, this is really inappropriate.
unidentified
I'll sustain the objection and we'll just move forward.
camille vasquez
Thank you.
unidentified
Let's move forward.
Next question.
camille vasquez
Under oath, that statement wasn't true, was it, Ms. Hurd?
unidentified
I'm sorry, I don't follow your question.
Sorry.
bert kreischer
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
camille vasquez
You testified under oath, quote, the entirety of my divorce settlement was donated to charity, end quote.
That statement wasn't true.
unidentified
It is true.
I pledged the entirety to charity.
camille vasquez
The statement...
unidentified
When you say you buy a house, you don't pay for the entire house at one time.
You pay it over time.
All right, next question, please.
camille vasquez
Thank you.
That statement isn't true today, as you sit here today, is it?
unidentified
It is true.
I pledged the entirety.
camille vasquez
But you didn't donate it.
bert kreischer
I wish I had Amber Heard's brain.
camille vasquez
Unfortunately, you didn't donate it.
It's a yes or no.
unidentified
I haven't been able to fulfill those obligations.
camille vasquez
So that's a no, right, Ms. Heard?
unidentified
I made the pledge.
I want to be very clear.
amber heard
I pledged the entirety.
I haven't been able to fulfill those pledges because I've been sued.
camille vasquez
You had all of the $7 million for 13 months before Mr. Depp sued you and you chose not to pay it to the charities you pledged it to.
Is that correct?
unidentified
I disagree with your characterization of that.
camille vasquez
Let's look at your sworn testimony from the UK. Dude.
unidentified
His face when she said that was pretty funny.
bert kreischer
But the lawyer where he's shaking his head, when he hands her the note, and he's like, hey, you might want to put this in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he was letting her know that she had that money for 13 months.
bert kreischer
I need one of these lawyers when I fight with my wife.
I get tripped up so easily.
joe rogan
I think we get it.
I think we're good.
bert kreischer
Like, here's the problem is that...
Here's the problem...
joe rogan
But you're drunk.
You get tripped up.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
And when I'm not drunk, I get tripped up.
By the way, if I had a lawyer that could pull up shit I've said on podcasts, if it's like one time you were on Two Bears, One Cave, you said you caught a rattlesnake when you were a child, and I was like, okay, alright, hold on.
Okay, I was fucked up.
Like, this...
You have to be 100% accountable.
They have everything you've ever done.
They have teams researching everything you've ever done.
She is fucked.
She's fucked because here's the problem.
I've seen this happen with other people.
When they get famous, they think because they got famous and they did that magic trick that they're one of the smartest people in the world.
I've seen that happen to people where you go, you still aren't smart.
You didn't get smarter.
You just can act good.
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And that's what's wrong is Amber Heard actually believes she's a really brilliant person.
So she thinks she's smarter than everyone in that room, not realizing that the fucking eight that's running the cross-direct, you know, Amber Heard's a ten, that eight is a smart motherfucker.
And run circles around her.
joe rogan
Well, she has the truth on her side.
That's the thing.
It's like you can be smart as fuck, but if you are on the witness stand and you're talking about something that is as clear as you had money, you didn't donate the money, you said you donated the money, but it's not true.
And your workaround is, I pledge the money.
And she's doing this, I pledge the money.
And then she looks at the jury.
This weird nodding, it's like, you could tell like- Actor stuff is what it is.
tony hinchcliffe
This is what thinking looks like.
joe rogan
Yes, yes!
bert kreischer
She can act like a smart person and she's trying to do that on the thing.
She's got no one on her team that's ever been straight with her, right?
No one.
She lives in a fucking make-believe world.
She beat the fuck out of Johnny Depp, and then thought, I'm so smart with what's going on in this world, I'm gonna throw him under the bus, they're not even gonna ask a question.
And then I can do Aquaman 2. And now she has fucked up her career.
When she could've just been, yeah, it didn't work, a score of separate ways.
joe rogan
Right, and she would've still had a great career.
bert kreischer
A great career.
I liked Amber Heard even when they broke up.
And by the way, I'm a ride or die from Johnny Depp.
I still have a voicemail from him.
I'm not going to delete.
I switched phones.
I recorded it on my new phone.
So like, she fucked everything up.
joe rogan
Yeah, she fucked everything up.
Yeah, but she didn't think she was gonna.
She thought with the way the public treats women in divorce settlements, if you say that the man was abusive and you say that the man beat you and It's so crazy, man.
It's so crazy to watch, but this is probably the first public thing where a guy who's a famous guy and a girl who's a famous girl are in a spat and the guy's winning.
We've never seen one of these before.
bert kreischer
Oh, never, never?
joe rogan
Never.
bert kreischer
Cosby's probably gonna be going, I wish I had Johnny's team.
joe rogan
Well, he's out.
bert kreischer
Cosby's out?
joe rogan
Yes.
Cosby's out.
bert kreischer
Do you escape?
Don't mind me.
unidentified
I'm just cleaning up over here.
joe rogan
That's the worst Cosby impression ever.
bert kreischer
I'm bad at impressions.
Hey!
joe rogan
That's like Huggy the Bear.
Yeah, he was released because, I think if I remember it correctly, the statement that he made, there was some sort of a settlement that he had, and part of the settlement was he would give this woman the money and he would make these statements, but the statements could not be used against him.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so he made these statements.
Am I saying that right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the prosecutors violated Mr. Cosby's rights by reneging on an apparent promise not to charge him, the court majority ruled.
Okay.
So the district attorney in Montgomery, Pennsylvania, outside Philadelphia, issued a news release saying that he had declined to charge Mr. Cosby over the matter.
Mr. Cosby then sat for depositions in a separate lawsuit against him by Ms. Constand, where he paid her $3.38 million to settle in 2006. But a subsequent district attorney reversed Mr. Castor's decision and charged the entertainer with assaulting Ms. Constand after all.
In the trial, prosecutors used what Mr. Cosby had said in the deposition, his admission that in decades past he had given quaaludes to women in an effort to have sex with them as evidence against him.
So that was it.
So we hold that when a prosecutor makes an unconditional promise of non-prosecution and when the defendant relies upon that guarantee to the detriment of his constitutional right not to testify, the principle of fundamental fairness that undergrids, that due process, undergirds rather, due pro- I don't even know what that word is.
Undergird?
You ever heard that word?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Due process of our law in our criminal justice system demands that the promise be enforced.
So they let him out.
bert kreischer
Jesus.
I would love to hear Cosby be 100% honest about drugging women.
joe rogan
I think he can.
I think it's like O.J. We were talking about this last night, that if you talk to O.J., I came home, and I went to the airport, just like normal.
Everything was normal.
And then when I got to the airport, there's a...
unidentified
Mr. Simpson, we want to talk to you about the murder of your wife.
joe rogan
What?
My wife was murdered?
unidentified
Huh?
What?
joe rogan
I mean, I was in shock.
unidentified
I was despondent.
joe rogan
I bet if you talked to him, he would have this.
He was talking about the Buffalo shooting the other day.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was like sending his condolences, Twitter world.
And he's giving his condolences, and the comments are the best.
Yeah, there he is.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
But the comments were like, we know how against you, against multiple people dying in one location you are.
bert kreischer
He got new bottom teeth, it looks like.
joe rogan
Did he?
bert kreischer
It looks like it.
I love when people get new teeth and then it's like all you can see.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Those are brand new.
unidentified
Oh, those are beautiful teeth.
bert kreischer
Oh, he got all new teeth.
joe rogan
Nice teeth.
You think you'd ever do that?
bert kreischer
He's like, how white do you want him?
He's like, I want him cheating on me with it.
Cheating on me with a busboy white.
Kind of white you could cut the neck off of.
You know what I'm talking about, Doc?
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
Fucking...
bert kreischer
I love...
You watch a movie and the white teeth just pull me out.
I was going to get my teeth done before...
I'm good right now.
I was going to get my teeth done before I did the movie.
It's like...
joe rogan
What were you going to get done?
unidentified
Caps?
bert kreischer
I was going to get all new teeth.
All new teeth.
unidentified
Wow, Jesus.
bert kreischer
I already have...
First of all, all my teeth are fake.
I got hit in the mouth of a baseball bat when I was 11. Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Damn.
joe rogan
Who hit you in the mouth with a baseball bat?
bert kreischer
I don't know the kid's name.
tony hinchcliffe
Was it an accident?
bert kreischer
Yeah, it was an accident.
I was playing catcher.
It was a pass ball.
I took my mask.
It was my 11th birthday, too.
Took my mask off, threw it down to third base, and the kid brought the bat back, hit my mouth, cracked all my teeth back to my molars.
I ate a baseball bat.
joe rogan
Let me see your teeth.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
They look pretty fucking good.
bert kreischer
Well, they're a fucking mess right now.
joe rogan
But they look good for fake teeth.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They look like real teeth.
And so I was going to get them redone, and my wife's like, no.
She's like, no one will be able to watch your goddamn movie because they'll be looking at your teeth.
You'll look weird with brand new teeth.
joe rogan
She's probably right.
bert kreischer
Yeah, so I kept regular teeth.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor got new teeth.
They're fucking so obvious.
They're shiny, pearly, white.
And people are like, God, look at his teeth.
They look ridiculous.
I'm like...
They look good.
New teeth.
It's just teeth.
There are these hard things you chew food with.
The obsession with getting the ones that you're born with only seems a little odd.
You want to know really dark shit that I found out from Duncan?
George Washington had fake teeth from slaves that he owned.
They pulled the teeth out of slaves and made him molars.
And made him dentures, rather.
bert kreischer
Fuck.
joe rogan
Fuck.
So look at George Washington's teeth.
Like, find this.
So, you know, George Washington had like this crazy setup.
Those were teeth from his slaves.
tony hinchcliffe
I thought his teeth were made of wood or something.
joe rogan
No, it's wood around it.
That's wood holding it in place.
That's his teeth.
That's what it looks like with springs.
bert kreischer
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
So he had those springs in his mouth.
Is that why his mouth was always like, look at that photo of him down there.
Look how his mouth sticks out.
bert kreischer
He's trying to hold his teeth down.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so nuts.
So the springs kept the teeth in his mouth.
Holy shit, dude.
That's him down there with no teeth and a mouthful of slave teeth.
bert kreischer
Fuck.
joe rogan
Fuck, that's evil.
bert kreischer
Imagine him coming home smiling at his slaves and they're like, yeah, those are my teeth.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so crazy.
Look at that.
That's what his teeth looked like.
And they were all pulled from slaves.
bert kreischer
Goddammit.
joe rogan
How can we never learn that in school?
Like, for real, why are we learning that now on the internet?
It's not like that- A new story broke!
No it didn't.
He's been dead for 300 fucking years.
How is it possible that this is coming out now?
bert kreischer
You just need a cool history teacher.
Like, Duncan would be a cool history teacher.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Do you think- I mean, obviously someone knew that.
Otherwise, it wouldn't be out there now.
So it must- What grade do you learn that then?
jamie vernon
Because you can't teach that to a seven-year-old.
unidentified
They'll be like, what?
Maybe you can.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
unidentified
Pulling teeth?
joe rogan
Maybe you should.
tony hinchcliffe
When do they teach kids about slavery?
unidentified
Oh.
Well, yeah, I guess.
bert kreischer
Yeah, you learn about slavery pretty quick.
joe rogan
Right.
Slavery is almost, I mean, it's basically pulling a slave's teeth out and slavery are both horrific.
There's no, like, one better than the other.
Like, hey, I kept slaves, but I never pulled their teeth out.
Like, Jesus Christ, you imprisoned a human being and robbed them of their literal life and made them work for you forever.
bert kreischer
But they kind of whitewashed slavery up until Roots came out.
Like, they didn't really dive into just how bad it was, from what I've heard, until Roots came out.
Roots was the first representation of what, of them, when they crippled Jody.
joe rogan
Yes.
bert kreischer
And they broke, they hobbled him because he kept running away.
joe rogan
They cut the top of his foot off, right?
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's how, and then I think, that was the first time that America was like, I think was like, had an open, honest conversation about slavery.
joe rogan
Yes.
tony hinchcliffe
We have some explaining to do.
joe rogan
Yes.
And that was probably one of the first times where reparations was brought up.
Yeah, that was probably one first because there's There's companies that to this day in their original origin like when they were around during slavery and they had slaves They profited off of slaves and they're still around those companies made a profit That was the foundation of the business that they enjoyed today and it came from slavery if anybody Should pay reparations.
It's those people, right?
bert kreischer
It's the same with Germany.
joe rogan
Yes.
bert kreischer
They used the Jews to blow up big companies that are still around today.
What's the dude that did all the outfits?
Vidal Sassoon or something?
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
Who did all the outfits?
joe rogan
The dude that did all the outfits?
unidentified
Gucci?
tony hinchcliffe
One of them.
It is.
It is a big one.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
tony hinchcliffe
What did they do?
Yeah, they designed the Nazi stuff.
joe rogan
Oh my god, really?
bert kreischer
Hugo Boss.
That's why the Nazis look so fucking dope.
tony hinchcliffe
Really?
bert kreischer
Their outfits are fucking.
Out of all the villains' outfits, that has been the standard prototype for what a villain should look like.
tony hinchcliffe
No doubt.
joe rogan
I did not know that Hugo Boss was around back then.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Big five name fashion designers who had ties to Nazis.
Whoa.
Coco Chanel.
unidentified
Whoa.
bert kreischer
Louis Vuitton.
unidentified
Christian Dior.
bert kreischer
What was the other one above that?
joe rogan
Above Christian Dior?
Louis Vuitton.
unidentified
Balenciaga?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I don't know what that is.
joe rogan
Jamie knows all that stuff.
You hear how he says it so comfortably?
bert kreischer
Balenciaga?
joe rogan
Like he's been saying it a lot.
bert kreischer
I'm so stupid I see a word like that and I just go, it's too big for me to say, I'm gonna guess it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, dude, when I do the post-fight or weigh-in interviews, weigh-in, read people's names, I'm fucking terrible at that.
Because some of these names, I'm just learning for the first time, like guys who are making their debuts.
tony hinchcliffe
Some of them, they argue over how to say it.
Like everybody argues.
joe rogan
Sometimes.
tony hinchcliffe
There's a few that I've noticed that literally they're like names evolve and change and stuff.
bert kreischer
It's crazy.
Hasan Minhaj, I'm saying his name wrong now.
Are you?
I'm certain I am.
Because he went on like Seth Meyers and was like, yeah, everyone's been saying my name wrong the whole time.
I don't want to fuck it up, because I like the guy, but I think there's an emphasis on the first part.
It's Hasan.
joe rogan
Oh, Hasan.
Well, Fedor.
Fedor Emelianenko?
That's not how you say his name.
His name is Fyodor.
bert kreischer
Fjordo.
Fjordo.
Igors are not igors, they're Igor.
Igor.
Really?
Like Igor?
Yeah, it's not Igor.
We say Igor because we learned it as kids, as the guy that brought the thing, Igor, come get my help!
But it's Igor.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Well, the Russian language is so fascinating.
I mean, it's so interesting, like the sounds that they make.
You know, it's like this weird movement of your mouth to say all those...
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But for whatever reason, they decided people can't say Fyodor, so they're going to call it Fedor.
But people can say Schwarzenegger?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They can say Arnold Schwarzenegger?
That worked okay, but Fyodor is hard?
bert kreischer
No, but his isn't pronounced that way.
It's Schwarzenegger.
joe rogan
Schwarzenegger.
bert kreischer
You've got to do it.
I'm going to start doing that with myself.
joe rogan
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Is that how he says it?
bert kreischer
You know how Latino comics, when they bring them on stage, they're like, put your hands together for Gabriel Iglesias.
They'll put a spin on it.
I want to start doing that for me.
Put your hands together for Bert Kreicher!
Kreicher!
Kreicher!
joe rogan
I like it.
I like it.
There's a lot of shit that's whitewashed about history that you find out later and you're like, how am I just learning now that Columbus was a cunt?
Like Columbus was a horrible person.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
And like a literal serial killer.
Like they came to the Bahamas.
They saw the natives that were living there.
They chopped people's arms off if they didn't give them enough gold.
They bashed babies' brains out on the rocks in front of their mothers.
They did horrible shit.
bert kreischer
Shit's gotten so much better since then.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
bert kreischer
Like when you think about...
The idea of being enslaved is insane to me.
And when I'm saying that I'm not just talking about...
I'm talking about what the Portuguese did down the coast of Africa.
Like there was this book called...
Something about Portuguese people, and I listened to it on tape, and they would come down the coast of Africa to trade, and they'd say, tell the king to send out his daughter.
We want her.
And then they'd be like, and he'd be like, I'm not sending out my daughter.
And they're like, tell the king to come out here.
And then they would shit in his throat and shove pork down his throat in the shit, and then go back and go, now send your daughter.
He'd be like, hey, you gotta go with these people.
Oh, God.
Wish I knew the name of that book.
tony hinchcliffe
What's the point of putting the pork?
bert kreischer
The Conquerors, that's it!
joe rogan
The Conquerors, Roger Crowley.
And it talks in there about them shoving shit down his throat?
bert kreischer
Shit down a Muslim king's throat and then pork on top of the shit because you're not allowed to eat pork.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy that there's so many countries that to this day speak Portuguese because of the slave trade.
Like in Brazil, they speak Portuguese.
It's not Portugal.
It's South America, but they speak Portuguese.
bert kreischer
And that's because of the slave trade?
joe rogan
It has to be.
It has to be.
bert kreischer
Portugal used to be one of the titans.
I mean, think about it.
They've got the best property in all of Europe.
They're right on that coast.
Spain doesn't have that.
Spain's got to go through a fucking peninsula and then like Portugal had the best fucking land.
joe rogan
I think Google that in Brazil they speak Portuguese because of the slave trade.
As a result, Portuguese is now the official language of several independent countries and regions.
Angola, Brazil, Cape Verde, East Timor, Guinea-Bissau, Macau, Mozambique, Portugal and Sao Tome and Principe.
Portuguese ranked fifth amongst world languages in a number of native speakers is also widely spoken or studied as a second language in many other countries.
Portugal created the first and longest-lived modern world colonial and commercial empire in the 1400s.
unidentified
Up until 1975. 1975. Wow.
Wow.
joe rogan
But one of the ways they did this, for sure, is slavery.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's wild.
You read the shit about Columbus, it's scary.
It's terrifying.
Because there's a day dedicated to this guy.
Like, I don't think they do it anymore, right?
Don't they call it Indigenous Peoples Day?
unidentified
Depends where you are.
joe rogan
But in some places, they still call it Columbus Day.
bert kreischer
It's on my calendar is Columbus Day.
joe rogan
It's wild to give that guy a holiday.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, he lived in Columbus, Ohio.
joe rogan
Jamie and I. There's multiple statues of him there.
bert kreischer
Oh, that?
I didn't even realize that's the Columbus?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro, people...
That's so funny.
tony hinchcliffe
Wait till you find out who Washington's named after.
jamie vernon
They had a full-size Santa Maria ship there for up until maybe five, six years ago.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Sitting on the river.
bert kreischer
Really?
unidentified
Since the 90s.
joe rogan
Oh, like a recreation?
bert kreischer
Yeah, but like full.
unidentified
And it's now on someone's farm.
joe rogan
You know, a lot of those ships, rather, they restore them.
They restore these old ships.
But the problem is...
Where's the ship?
What is that now?
That's a new ship.
That's not the old ship.
You put new wood in it.
If you put new wood and restore a ship, that's not the ship anymore.
bert kreischer
Yeah, because it's not a house.
joe rogan
Right.
There's this debate about that.
You know that story about the fake Leonardo da Vinci painting?
Supposedly fake.
Allegedly fake.
There's a male Mona Lisa that's like Jesus.
It looks like Jesus.
And the original painting...
Was retouched and redone by this woman painstakingly over years.
So she essentially made a new painting.
But the painting sold for $450 million.
And MBS from Saudi Arabia.
That's what it looked like when they got it.
And they had to take all these layers of shitty paint off, and in the process, the art investigators, or whoever it would be, determined that there's a high probability that this is a Leonardo da Vinci.
It's a lost Leonardo.
Since then, it's gone into a lot of dispute and there's objective Art analysts that do not believe that this is a lost Leonardo da Vinci, and then there's other ones that may be connected to it that do believe it.
The problem is the amount of money to be made off of Leonardo da Vinci was absurd.
So there's a certain amount of incentive For them to say that it was Leonardo da Vinci.
And I don't think it was substantiated before the auction.
So it was sold to the highest bidder, which was $450 million.
And then it came out, like over time, what the process was.
And The Lost Leonardo is a documentary that I saw.
And it is fucking wild to see what happened.
It's essentially like they all were like, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, let's sell this thing as Leonardo.
And let's sell this thing after this lady essentially repainted the whole thing.
I think there's a large percentage.
See what the percentage of this painting is redone?
It's a crazy percentage.
You read it and you go, what?
90%?
Something nuts like that.
It's a beautiful painting, but it's really this woman who's an expert painter painting over this really old paint with new paint, and they're selling it like an old painting.
Like, that's not really an old- you painted on an old painting, but it's not an old painting.
bert kreischer
Yeah, that's why I don't buy art.
joe rogan
You can't buy that kind of art.
That kind of art is like, look at the size of my dick art.
I have $450 million just slapping that giant dick on the table.
bert kreischer
What happens to those people?
Why do they do that?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, he's a prince in Saudi Arabia.
That's the least of the things that he's been accused of doing.
This is the guy that was accused of killing Jamal Khashoggi.
bert kreischer
For real?
joe rogan
I was watching some of that.
jamie vernon
A very interesting thing they were bringing up is that you can store those paintings in the movie Tenant.
unidentified
It's about where they store that shit.
jamie vernon
While it's being stored there, they can take out loans on that and get the loans tax-free.
joe rogan
So it's like a way of moving money.
So you have a $200 million painting, then you get a $200 million loan.
No taxes.
bert kreischer
That movie Tenant's so fucking awesome.
joe rogan
It's a genius way of doing that.
And that's one of the reasons why I bet it's probably common to have fake paintings.
bert kreischer
Sweet.
Is that what NFTs are, just a way to move money?
unidentified
No, but you could definitely probably put that in.
I'm sure that's happening.
joe rogan
They confuse the shit out of me.
bert kreischer
Dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know people that have gotten rich off of them, like artists that have gotten rich off NFTs.
I'm like, okay, okay, okay.
I mean, I'm not hating.
I just don't understand it.
bert kreischer
I don't get it.
joe rogan
I could get a photo of that and have that photo on my phone.
And it looks exactly like what you have, but you paid a million dollars.
bert kreischer
Here he goes.
unidentified
If you send me a screenshot of your bank account, I don't have that money.
joe rogan
Right, so someone could buy that NFT, and that's why it's worth a million bucks.
unidentified
Only because of what's tied to the back end of it.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, it's non-fungible, Bert Crutcher.
jamie vernon
I don't mean it's better, I'm just saying that's it.
bert kreischer
Add this to the list of shit I'll never understand.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's on there.
bert kreischer
I remember email was on there for a while for me.
I remember being in college and she was like, so I need you for your assignment.
You're going to email the short story you wrote.
And I remember sitting in front of a computer going, I was like, cut and paste.
How do I cut it out of here?
I remember going, do I actually cut?
Do I print it and then cut it and then feed it back in or something?
I could not wrap my head around it.
And then this poor woman, Pat McNulty was her name.
She sat with me and she was like, it's an email.
I said, I don't know what that is.
I was like, I really...
joe rogan
What year are we talking?
unidentified
1997. Well, that's early.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
97 was people...
When did you first email people?
Right around then.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Yeah, I think a lot of people weren't emailing in 97. Yeah, I remember I got an email address and they were like, I got the internet, I had Prodigy, and all I could use it for was to get the lines for the sports scores.
And then check the weather, but I was like, I can just go outside.
I don't need to look at the weather.
But I really didn't understand the internet for a very long time.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think most people don't understand the internet.
bert kreischer
I remember getting in arguments.
They're like, yeah, one day you're going to be shopping on the internet.
And I go, okay, you're telling me I'm not going to go to the grocery store and pick out the bread I want.
I'll just go, have bread sent to my house.
And now that's all we do.
joe rogan
You could literally say it into your phone.
That's what's crazy.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You talk into your phone.
Have bread delivered to my house.
bert kreischer
That's insane.
We probably have seen the biggest change in technology in our lifetimes.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe in human history.
bert kreischer
In human history.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
In our lifetimes, we've seen the biggest change in how people live their lives in human history.
First of all, just the access to information.
Just the fact that you, like, my kids do it all the time.
They ask Siri questions.
Like, they don't know an answer to something, they go, hey, Siri, you know, what is the capital of the country Georgia, you know?
And then, boom, they'll pull it up.
Like, there it is.
Like, you can do that now.
That was science fiction!
When we were kids, everyone was dumb.
Nobody had any data.
And the stories that people told, they could be 100% bullshit because nobody could back them up.
Nobody could go find them and find the data.
You'd have to go to a fucking library to investigate.
There were probably so many more liars back then than now.
bert kreischer
I bet the number of con artists has gone down.
I remember meeting a con artist freshman year of college.
He was like a guy that just lived in lies, and he lied to all of us, and we all sat and listened, and I loved the guy.
The guy was fucking fascinating.
His life was amazing.
And then one day, that was at summer school, and then people that knew him showed up to college, and were like, oh, don't believe a word he says.
Everything he says is a lie.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
bert kreischer
I've actually looked for this guy.
I know he's changed his name.
I've looked for him a couple times.
joe rogan
He's probably got some sort of a foreign name.
bert kreischer
He was a good-looking guy.
joe rogan
Javier.
Something like that.
Something with some flair.
tony hinchcliffe
Nobody ever goes with a boring white hair.
bert kreischer
He spoke Portuguese.
Or we think he did.
We don't know, because none of us spoke Portuguese.
He's picking up fake Portuguese!
This guy was so fun, too.
joe rogan
Wow.
Hey, what percentage of the Salvador Monday was fake, was retouched?
Because it gets brought up in the documentary.
bert kreischer
Are we drinking this one?
unidentified
They relayed an honest tip that 90% of it was painted in the last 50 years.
tony hinchcliffe
90%.
joe rogan
90%.
Do you think they told that guy that before he spent 450 million bucks?
bert kreischer
Would it change your opinion of, say, Ali Wong?
Ali Wong's a safe place.
Would it change your opinion of Ali Wong if you found out 90% of her act was written by someone else?
joe rogan
Yes.
bert kreischer
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
Yes.
bert kreischer
I'm really litigious about that.
I won't even take tags from people because I get weird about it because I go, I didn't write it.
Tosh gave me a great one one time.
joe rogan
Oh, you wouldn't take it?
bert kreischer
I wouldn't take it.
It was awesome.
It was a great one.
joe rogan
Oh, you got to take tags.
I take tags.
Somebody takes tags.
bert kreischer
I had a joke about dating a black chick.
I wanted to date a black chick.
And it was like an act-out story about wanting to date a black chick.
And then he said, you need to start that with, I want to date a black chick just as long as she's never had sex with a black guy.
I was like, oh, that's so fucking funny.
I wish I had thought of that.
What is Daniel Tosh doing?
unidentified
He's here actually tonight.
bert kreischer
What?
joe rogan
He's here tonight?
Where?
unidentified
Let me make sure of that.
joe rogan
At the Paramount?
Or it could be this weekend.
unidentified
I remember seeing an ad that he was in town this weekend.
joe rogan
No shit!
I haven't talked to that guy in forever.
I want to say hi to him.
bert kreischer
He's great.
joe rogan
He's a sweetheart of a guy.
He's very smart, too.
Very smart.
And we both dislike the same people.
It's fun.
It's fun to have conversations with him.
Tomorrow.
unidentified
Tomorrow and Friday.
joe rogan
That's dope.
I got tomorrow off.
unidentified
Moody Theater.
joe rogan
The Moody.
Oh, yeah, just tomorrow.
unidentified
Just Thursday.
joe rogan
Just Thursday.
Okay.
Maybe I have to say hi to Daniel Tosh.
bert kreischer
I met him right when we had Georgia.
I did the Miami Improv.
And we're very, very different men.
Really?
Yeah.
Weird.
For real?
Yeah.
I'm boarding my dick off and he's stone sober.
joe rogan
Does he even get high?
bert kreischer
No, he doesn't do anything.
joe rogan
Wow.
bert kreischer
But we liked each other.
We got along really well.
And then I got back to LA and he called me and he was like, hey man.
I want to get you in at the Comedy Magic place.
And he, like, vouched for me, and I went down.
Like, he's just a really sweet guy.
joe rogan
He's a good dude.
bert kreischer
I remember we were broke, too, and he came to play poker with me.
And he came to pick me up, and I said to Leanne, hey, guy, $100.
She said, we don't have it.
And I said, no, I know.
Give me the bank card, and I'll go get it.
She goes, no, we don't have $100.
And I said, babe, come on.
I just need $100.
I'm going to play poker tonight.
I'm not going to lose.
I'll bring back money, the money.
She goes, no, we don't have it.
And Daniel goes, I'm so uncomfortable right now.
He goes, can I just give you $100?
And I said, yeah.
And we walked out and gave you $100 to gamble with.
He goes, I'm so uncomfortable right now.
joe rogan
Wow.
You were ready to gamble and you didn't have $100.
bert kreischer
Well, I didn't know that I didn't have $100.
I've never been on top of my finances, Joe.
joe rogan
But that's not on top of it.
That's not even in the remote vicinity of your finances.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're down to $100 that you don't have.
bert kreischer
What's the brokest you've ever been?
joe rogan
I've been broke as fuck.
Cars repossessed.
bert kreischer
Like, so broke, all you're eating is peanut butter and garlic?
joe rogan
Yeah, eating ramen.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, broke as fuck.
As an early comic, it's so broke.
Yeah.
Just barely eating enough.
You know, I would look forward to gigs.
I would get gigs at Dangerfields in New York City.
Because Dangerfields, you'd get a free cheeseburger.
And they made a great cheeseburger at Dangerfields.
So I would take gigs just so that would be my dinner.
I knew that I had food.
bert kreischer
The cellar was like that for a lot of people.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That's a nice thing.
That's a nice thing if you have that.
The problem is, like, serving food at a comedy club sucks.
Then the people are eating, looking up, they're not paying attention to the show.
They should be watching the show.
When you're serving food, it's like, I mean, it's convenient if you want to just eat something, but really it should be like two separate things.
There's a restaurant next door, you eat at the restaurant, then you go in and watch the show, and you don't eat food in front of you.
You know, but, yeah, I was broke as fuck, man.
bert kreischer
How are you going to give that to your kids?
You ever think about that?
joe rogan
You can't.
They have a different life.
Their life is the life of somebody who went through that.
There's no way you can change that unless you want to, like, subject your kids to abject poverty and, like, abandon them somewhere and treat them like shit.
tony hinchcliffe
They should have, like, an escape room for that for rich people.
Drop your kids off for two weeks.
They just scare the shit out of them.
Like, what is this?
They're just eating stuff out of a poor person's refrigerator?
Welcome, kids.
This is American cheese.
That's it.
joe rogan
This is government cheese.
bert kreischer
American cheese is fucking awesome.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, I agree.
joe rogan
Government cheese is crazy.
You're poor and you don't have any food, they just give you a block of cheese.
That is terrible cheese.
bert kreischer
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ever have government cheese?
tony hinchcliffe
I never had the government cheese.
I always thought that was just a figure of speech.
joe rogan
No, it's real.
I don't know.
bert kreischer
You just thought it was something black comics talked about?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
bert kreischer
That's all I've ever heard is black comics talk about government cheese.
joe rogan
Look at Ronald Reagan holding up the government cheese and knowing what you know about George Washington now, doesn't that make you sad?
bert kreischer
God.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Imagine chewing that government cheese with those George Washington teeth.
bert kreischer
I'm going to be thinking about those George Washington teeth for a long time.
joe rogan
That's wild, man.
That's wild.
What's also wild was those, I always wondered why his cheek stuck out.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And now you know why his cheek stuck out, because he had fucking springs in them.
jamie vernon
You should check out some of the podcasts that Shane and Louie did about presidents.
joe rogan
I heard it was amazing.
Shane and Louie.
They did a whole series.
They go through as president.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Louis C.K. knows a shitload about U.S. presidents.
So much that Sagar and Jetty from Breaking Points did a whole thing on it about how knowledgeable Louis C.K. is about U.S. history, that he's more knowledgeable than him.
And Sagar knows I mean, he knows everything about politics.
He's like the most knowledgeable political guy, or one of, that I know.
So they hear him say that, that Louis C.K. knew shit that he didn't even know.
Yeah, he's like done deep dives on US presidents.
Louis is smart as fuck, man.
He's smart as fuck.
He's a comic.
He's crazy.
But he's smart as fuck.
And those guys together, like Shane knows a shitload about history too.
Shane is a very smart guy.
Like an undercover smart guy.
bert kreischer
Undercover meaning he does not look like a person with intelligence.
joe rogan
He acts like he's not smart.
He acts like a big, silly, drunk goose.
He did a podcast with us.
We do that Protect Our Parks podcast.
He drank 15 beers.
bert kreischer
I've seen that before.
joe rogan
15?
bert kreischer
He's fun to bring on tour with, by the way.
joe rogan
Three hours.
tony hinchcliffe
He drank 11 on Kill Tony, and that's only an hour and a half.
joe rogan
That's insane.
That's a pace, boy.
bert kreischer
But he's good in taking a night off.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
He's legit.
Because I love Partying with Shane.
joe rogan
He's a funny comic too, man.
bert kreischer
Very funny.
Dude, we did the Celebrity Theater in Arizona.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And he got a standing ovation opening up for me.
unidentified
Wow.
bert kreischer
I'm bringing him on Fully Loaded.
We just added him to Fully Loaded.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
That celebrity theater is tight.
That's a good theater, man.
bert kreischer
He's fun, and he's a good comic, meaning he watches you, he talks to you about what you're doing, and he gives you good, like, hey, I like what you're doing with this.
Louis is the same way.
Louis came and did a show, was doing a show at a theater next to me, and I texted him, and I was like, hey, I'm at the theater next to you.
I got two shows.
If you got one, stop by.
Did I tell you this already?
I might have told you this.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's okay, but you didn't tell me on here.
bert kreischer
And he goes, we're backstage, and I go, hey man, you want to go on?
And he was like, are you sure about that?
And I was like, yeah, man.
I don't give a fuck.
You're my friend.
You've always been nice to me.
I'll stand behind you.
Please go on.
I didn't realize he was saying, are you sure about that?
Because he's like, you want me to go in front of you and then you're going to have a fucking pretty big hole to dig out because I'm Louie fucking CK. And he murdered with 10 minutes of pedophile jokes.
And I got on stage and I could not, I was like struggling.
They were my fans.
I ripped my shirt off and they're like, it's not Louie though.
joe rogan
Wow.
tony hinchcliffe
There's a special kind of thing that they do, right?
They love that shovel.
Like 20, 30 year comedy bets.
Oh my god.
Joe just went up before me in Phoenix.
And I was saying to the guys in the green room, I'm like, you hear that?
That's an extra little volume.
bert kreischer
Oh.
tony hinchcliffe
There's an extra hit when you know you're burying one of your buddies.
joe rogan
I wasn't supposed to be there.
It was a guest.
I was a guest at it.
So when I went up, they were extra excited because they didn't know I was going to be there.
tony hinchcliffe
And I told him he could do as long as he wants.
So he's got a 30-minute shovel I'm about to do in an hour.
You killed, though, dude.
You fucking killed.
bert kreischer
You'll find your pacing after those, but it definitely reminds you how much better other guys are.
That Louis thing, when we started booking Fully Loaded, they were like, who do you want?
I was like, obviously, Attell.
I remember them, and it's the same thing, they're like, where are you going to put them in the lineup?
And I was like, oh fuck.
I was like, can we have an intermission?
And so I was like, fuck it, add as many comics as we can, and we'll just go one chunk, intermission, another chunk, and it's going to be hard because you've got murderers top to bottom.
joe rogan
Well, that was the thing with Oddball, right?
Because there was a lot of guys that didn't even like each other.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
And they were all touring together because they had to be on this one show with like 20 comics on it.
tony hinchcliffe
It just didn't work because there was a bunch of different types of comics.
bert kreischer
Did you do Oddball?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I never did Oddball.
I was supposed to, and they pulled me.
joe rogan
They pulled you?
bert kreischer
It was the bottom of the barrel of my life.
I remember that more than anything.
Why did they pull you?
I don't know.
I just got pulled.
I remember I was talking to Tom.
This is right when we're doing the fat shaming thing.
I get fired from Travel Channel.
Leanne's redoing our house.
I'm supposed to do Oddball.
I clear out my schedule.
I'm just doing Oddball for the next four months.
Three months.
I remember being on the phone with Tom and I was like...
And I was like, they pulled me.
And he was like, oh shit, man, I'm sorry, that's a lot of money.
And I said, oh, that's not that much money.
And he goes, what?
I was like, yeah, I mean, I was getting two grand a show.
And he was like, oh.
I go, you aren't getting two grand?
He goes, nope.
I go, what are you getting?
He goes, I'm afraid to tell you.
I was like...
Just tell me.
He's like, is this gonna fuck up our friendship?
I had to sit and think.
I go, can I hear this?
And I'm like, it'll be five grand.
It'll be five grand, ten grand tops.
And he told me, and it was much, much more than that.
And I was like, holy shit.
And it put in perspective where I was in stand-up comedy.
joe rogan
It's just because you hadn't been doing it.
You had been doing the Travel Channel.
bert kreischer
I've been doing Travel Channel.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you rebounded nicely.
bert kreischer
You figured it out.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
You figured it out.
I mean, I remember having those conversations with you, like, you shouldn't be doing this.
You know, it's short-term money with no end.
There's no, like, goal that you could reach where it's worth it.
It's like you're always gonna be working for somebody, you're always gonna be doing something other than stand-up comedy, and you're gonna be trapped.
There's no way out of that.
And, you know, fortunately, you had balls, and you fucking went for it.
bert kreischer
I was telling Tom yesterday, we were talking about...
The algorithm just doesn't make sense.
When you're not succeeding in comedy, you're like, what do I do?
How do I get people to my shows?
I remember sitting back at the bar at the improv store with you, and you were like, you need to get a Netflix special.
And I remember just going like, how?
And you're like, be undeniable.
And I was like, that was the only thing that made sense to me was like, every time you step on stage, stone sober, be undeniable.
Stone sober, murder top to bottom, no prisoners, be undeniable.
And I remember going, I wrote that in my joke book, be undeniable everywhere.
And then you get this fucking Netflix special, and I was like, my mantra was, be undeniable.
This will be the best thing you've ever done.
I told the girls goodbye.
I went on the road three months straight before that special.
Every fucking day.
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
No tour bus.
Flying from city to city.
Just doing that hour.
Running that hour.
Running that hour.
Rethinking the hour.
Listening to people.
All I thought about was that fucking hour.
Because that mantra, be undeniable, was in my head.
joe rogan
That's my mantra for everything.
People can talk all kinds of crazy shit, but when you're undeniable, they can't say anything.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could break through.
You can do anything you want.
If you get to a point, you get to a skill level, you get to a refinement of this creation that you put together that is just rock.
So people can not like it because there's a lot of amazing shit that people don't like.
They just have different tastes.
But as to whether or not you're competent, whether or not you're doing well, you just have to be undeniable.
And as a comic, being a comic is one of the rare, legitimate meritocracies.
Like, if you fucking kill, people want to see you, and they want to come back and see you again, and you make them feel good.
And as long as you're not an asshole...
Like to other comics or to booking agents where they don't want to use you.
Like, fuck that guy, I don't care if he's funny.
That can trip up careers.
And it's tripped up a lot of people's careers.
But other than that, if you're funny, you fucking make it.
You just keep going and it finds a way.
Everything works itself out if you're funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
It's kind of a cool business to be a part of because it's almost like panning for gold, I think.
Because all I do is think about jokes.
That's all I do.
All I do is ever.
joe rogan
Ideas.
bert kreischer
Ideas are so much fucking fun.
joe rogan
I like panning for gold, right?
Neil Brennan said that he thinks of ideas as like fish that he catches in his net, and the net is the joke book.
So it's like he's next to a river and there's a bunch of fish going by and he just catches them.
He writes it in the notebook.
The notebook is like a net.
bert kreischer
It's so fun, too.
Like, this is why I went up on stage drunk last night, because it's fun.
joe rogan
No, you were there drunk.
You showed up drunk.
bert kreischer
I showed up very drunk.
joe rogan
Yeah, you didn't have like a...
This wasn't like a decision.
bert kreischer
No, no.
Well, I could have just said I don't want to do it, but I'm bored of my act.
I was with my parents.
I was like, I'm bored of my act.
I'm bored of my act.
And I was like, I need to go up drunk and fuck it up a little bit.
Because if you fuck up, you're forced to think in the moment.
And that is how you can fucking find solves for stories.
And so I have one story that does have a good ending.
And I need to find the ending.
And I was like, I'll find it in there somewhere.
And I didn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's the thing, man.
Just keep putting yourself in that spot and you'll find it.
You'll figure it out.
There's many times where there's a new thing that's happening and I'll just talk about it.
I'll just go on stage.
As long as I know I have material before, material afterwards, and I dig myself out, I'll just go, let's see what we got out of here.
You never know because you're in that weird performing mindset and you can't recreate that.
You can't recreate the feeling of all these people watching you and you being back up against the wall, pressure, and you're thinking on the fly.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hard to do.
bert kreischer
It's so great though when you get the thing, when you stumble on it.
What do you think's better, okay?
So you figure it out on stage that first time and you know the next time it's going to murder.
You don't do it that first time.
You figure it out and you go, oh fuck, as you get off stage you go, I figured it out, I'm going to do it.
Is that the better feeling or is it the next time when you do it for the first time and it works?
joe rogan
I think the first time a bit kills.
Like when it's a brand new bit.
Like there's been times that I've had an idea in the day and I sit down and I write it out and then I maybe write it on a piece of paper and I've gone on stage and it murders and it is the wildest feeling.
It's like it's so much better than any I have bits that I get I know I'm gonna hit them and it's gonna be boom I know where the punchlines are but then there's stuff like that that it's just like it's like a gift from the universe it didn't exist before and now you have it and Now you go up and do it the first time you ever kill the joke is the greatest feeling in comedy It's because you're laughing at it.
You're you're you know, it's funny to you It's like you're just hearing it You know, you're hearing it out loud for the first time, really.
Because when you come up with an idea, it's in your head, and you're like, oh, how do I phrase it?
And then you write it out, or maybe you say it to somebody, and you go, tell me what you think about this.
But when you go on stage with it, and it murders for the first time, that's the first time the audience is hearing it.
It's the first time you're really performing it, and you'll think it's funny.
So it has this extra crackle because they know you're laughing too.
There's nothing worse than the fake laugh.
The fake laugh is horrible.
The bad fake laugh on the comics on stage.
The worst.
And they do it every time they do the bit.
There's times when you're saying something and you're just feeling it and you're having fun and you just laugh.
But it's a real laugh.
But if you're fake laughing with every other bit, like, ugh.
That might work if you're in row 10. Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It might work if you're in row 30 at a comedy club.
It's not going to work in the front row.
The front row people are going to be like, look at this fake laugh.
How weird is this?
tony hinchcliffe
God help you if they see you twice.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fake laugh twice in the same spot.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
Like, I can't if you do one of those.
tony hinchcliffe
I can't.
joe rogan
I can't.
bert kreischer
Let me get through this.
unidentified
I can't.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm cracking myself up so much right now.
joe rogan
There's some people that are really bad with the fake laugh.
Like, it would make some comics angry.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They'd go, oh, the fucking fake laugh, and they'd walk out of the room.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever done a table read and they do the fake laugh?
Yeah, the worst or run through and all the writers laugh really loud at the bits that they wrote Like they're trying to like give you support so they're laughing along with it in a supportive weird way You can tell who writes the joke based on who's laughing.
tony hinchcliffe
Yes in a hundred percent without a doubt and it's one of the things like That made me hate writer's rooms.
Made me want to get out of there.
I'm like, oh, this part sucks.
Like the coming up with jokes and making each other genuinely laugh in the moment.
Like something breaks on the news and you guys are just bop bop bop bop and cracking up.
That part's amazing.
But yeah, once you do the first read in front of the execs back then, it's just a nightmare.
I'm like, oh, this is all fake.
This is all nothing.
A bad joke has the same value as a brilliant joke now.
If everybody's laughing the same.
joe rogan
Right, you'll never know what the good stuff is.
Isn't it weird that laughter is so contagious that they use fake laughter on television shows to let you know where you should laugh?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
How weird is that?
bert kreischer
Have you seen the ones where they pull the laughter out?
joe rogan
Oh, like of the Big Bang Theory?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
bert kreischer
And they pull the laughter out and it's just awkward.
unidentified
It's madness.
joe rogan
It's madness.
It's like, what kind of art form is this?
This is so strange.
This is like, you're showing me that some weird, deluded world that doesn't exist.
Where people have like, they're like three quarter people.
They're not like 100% people.
They're missing a lot of their emotions and the weird, like everything's flat.
Flat and strange.
And everybody talks in like these, I'll say something, then you say something.
Then I'll say something, then you say something.
No one talks over anybody.
There's no stumbling of words.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so weird.
tony hinchcliffe
Andy Kaufman had beef with it all the way back then.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
I remember him saying, like, that's the laughter of dead people.
And to think that it stayed one of the main sources of comedy entertainment for so long after that.
joe rogan
Well, it kind of stills around, right?
Miss Pat does it with a live audience.
She's probably the only one doing it well right now.
bert kreischer
Miss Pat's show is awesome.
joe rogan
It's a very good show.
unidentified
It's awesome.
joe rogan
It's a very good show.
I was, like, legitimately impressed.
Because, you know, when your friend does a show, you're like, I hope it's good.
I watch a show.
And she wanted to come on with the executive producer who's a really young guy.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
A really smart guy.
He knows a lot of shit about, like, old Hollywood and movies.
But when I watch her show, I'm like, this is a good fucking show.
It's good that it's on a streaming platform, too, because it'll show that it grows there, and it'll get a chance to take legs, but that could be anywhere.
As a matter of fact, I think it might be somewhere else.
I think it might be going on Netflix.
bert kreischer
It's on Paramount+.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
bert kreischer
So whoever owns BET, which I think is Paramount +, Is now it's on Paramount+.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what it is.
Okay, cool.
But, you know, the world of those shows is an odd world, man.
There's so many egos and so many ideas have to, like, come together in a perfect convergence to make a show.
And then everybody wants to take credit for it.
It's all so weird, man.
And then you have the weirdness of the actors.
They want to be billed when they read the credits.
That's important.
What number you are.
I remember I was over at Callan's house once.
And he had this actress lady that he was having relations with.
And she made a snide comment about someone being like the fourth name on a sitcom.
Like the fourth, you know, like, I don't know what the term is.
tony hinchcliffe
The fourth lead.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
The fourth lead?
unidentified
I think so.
joe rogan
Is that what they say?
tony hinchcliffe
I think that's how they describe the order.
joe rogan
Whatever it was when they were reading off like that was her insult about this person that Please he's the fourth lead on some sitcom like they don't even read his name first They read his name fourth.
I'm like that's an insult.
She's an out-of-work actress.
Yeah, she's not working It's probably working as a waitress But her insult was that there was this person and they don't read his name quick enough when they read the names out for the stories So there's this whole weird social hierarchy to the show It wasn't like, everybody's name on the show, Tony Hinchcliffe, Bert Kreischer, Joe Rogan, all together.
One picture.
No.
It's like, Bert Kreischer!
Da-da-da-da!
Da-da-da-da-da-da!
Tony Hinchcliffe!
And if you got fourth, it's like, nobody gives a fuck about you.
They could write you out.
You could die in a car accident.
You're not necessary for this show.
bert kreischer
Actors are crazy.
Not Amber Heard.
joe rogan
She's fine.
She is the ultimate crazy lady.
That's like an interview with Bigfoot.
Like, look, we got one.
There it is.
There it is.
This is what we've been telling you about.
This is a real one.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, imagine what it has to be like.
To only do that, the imposter syndrome has to be completely overwhelming.
You didn't write anything.
Someone else told you how to do that.
They bent your motion.
Look this way.
Chin up.
Let's do it again.
Do it slower.
Take a pause between this.
Nothing is under your control.
bert kreischer
But I don't think they get that.
I don't think they get imposter syndrome.
joe rogan
Well, imposter syndrome is the opposite way.
Imposter syndrome is like you become super famous and super wealthy and you're a football player and you don't believe it's real.
You're like, they're going to find me out.
This doesn't feel real.
That happens to a lot of people.
They get successful and they go, I'm fraud.
This is fake.
Even though people love you, you go out and kill, and you're like, I feel like an imposter.
Because it's so strange, it's a new identity, and that new identity is very difficult for you to relate to, because it's not most of your life.
Most of your life is Tony Hinchcliffe, regular guy from Columbus, Ohio, and all of a sudden it's Tony Hinchcliffe, you know, successful comic, and you're touring and you're killing everywhere, and you go on stage and they're cheering, like, you feel like an imposter.
That's imposter syndrome.
What they are is just crazy.
They are good at pretending to be a thing.
And some of them are cool as fuck.
There's a lot of very cool actors.
Very cool actors.
Johnny Depp's very cool.
But some of them are just complete insane people that know how to manipulate and play this game and they get deeply embedded into the Hollywood system.
They become friends with casting agents and producers and executives.
They go to the right parties.
They say the right things.
They shake the right hands.
They look good.
They're attractive and charismatic like her.
And next thing you know, they're famous.
But they're legitimate sociopaths.
Legitimately insane people.
And there's not just one of those out there.
There's a fucking ecosystem of them.
There's a shit ton of them.
We know some of them that are comics.
There's a bunch of them.
And they're psychopaths, and they're out there acting like normal people.
They're like vampires, just living amongst regular people, just pretending and making their way through.
But they're not.
They're crazy people.
They steal ideas.
They backstab people.
They lie about being beaten up.
You know, like this one?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is also what happens in show business because the kind of person that wants an exorbitant amount of attention oftentimes has an exorbitant amount of damage in their life.
bert kreischer
So then, I wanted to be like those people so bad when I got to Hollywood.
Like, be someone who knew a casting director's name, or like knew anyone, or went to the parties.
I wanted to be like that so bad, and I just couldn't help but be me, and who I am is not very conducive to those moments.
joe rogan
Well, you know, back then, they didn't know that you being you was an actual business model.
You know what I'm saying?
Back then, they would go, you can't be that.
You're going to have to clean up your act because we've got to present you as something that you're not to make you more marketable.
They didn't have a YouTube.
They didn't have a podcast.
They didn't have a venue, an avenue where you could do a special.
Back then, if you got a special, man, how many people got an HBO special?
It's like fucking A.D. Murphy got one, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, a few, Kinnison, a few people got them.
But it wasn't like every week you have a new Netflix special.
There's so many new Netflix specials.
bert kreischer
I took a shit at a casting director's house one time.
joe rogan
You took a shit there?
bert kreischer
Well, I had to take a shit.
joe rogan
I get it.
bert kreischer
And I took a shit.
And fucking someone was like, they told her and she was like, you shit at my house?
And I was like, yeah, you have a toilet.
What do you use it for?
Like I didn't, it was a party.
joe rogan
She was upset that you shit at her house?
bert kreischer
I shit at her house.
I was like, I don't know, man.
I've had a few people be upset that I shit at their house.
It's crazy that people get upset that you shit at their house.
joe rogan
What a weird question.
Did you shit at my house?
bert kreischer
What did you want me to do?
joe rogan
Did you just run away and go to the forest?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck do you want me to find a gas station?
bert kreischer
It was the party where you were all white.
What's that party?
It's like Memorial Day or Labor Day.
unidentified
Oh, I don't know.
bert kreischer
It was a Labor Day party.
joe rogan
KKK? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What the fuck are you in?
bert kreischer
We're in the Grand Wizard.
joe rogan
Did you have a cape?
bert kreischer
Well, I had a mask on.
I was like, how did you know it was me?
joe rogan
Yeah, people that get upset that you take a shit, like, what are you living in some weird little kid world where you pretend people don't shit?
It's unfortunate.
If someone comes over to my house and I open up the door after they took a shit, I'm like, Jesus, I don't say anything.
I just go, oh boy.
tony hinchcliffe
People do that?
People shit at your place?
joe rogan
For sure, people shit at my house.
bert kreischer
I shit at our doctor's house today.
joe rogan
Good.
bert kreischer
He heard it, too.
I took a shit and then I heard him making coffee.
I was like, well, if I can hear him making coffee, he can hear this.
joe rogan
You can hear these bombs going off.
bert kreischer
I've taken like four shits today.
I don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
It's called good eating.
bert kreischer
I've shit here, I shit at the restaurant, I shit at the doctor's house, and I shit when I woke up.
tony hinchcliffe
Welcome to Texas, my friend.
That's how we do it here.
bert kreischer
I'm eating a lot of steak.
joe rogan
We had ribs today.
Yeah, it's normal to take a shit.
If you're inviting people over your home and you don't want them to use your restroom, you're a weirdo.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it was so bizarre.
unidentified
Right, Jamie?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you have an issue with people's shit in your apartment?
bert kreischer
No, but I know people have like, don't use that bathroom.
unidentified
I don't know what to think.
joe rogan
Yeah, but don't use that bathroom.
bert kreischer
There's good bathrooms and other bathrooms.
joe rogan
That's how James Brown wind up shooting at somebody.
He got in an armed chase with the cops.
You know that James Brown mugshot that I have out there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what he got arrested for.
James Brown got arrested because he was in a gunfight with the police because he pulled a shotgun out on some dude who was using his bathroom.
bert kreischer
Are you serious?
unidentified
Some guy was taking a shit in his own personal bathroom and he got mad.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure that's the case.
Google that just in case.
But I think I'm 99% sure that that's the case because I remember laughing at it.
Yeah.
On this day, December 15, 1988, James Brown began serving six-year sentence for carrying a deadly weapon at a public gathering, attempting to flee police, and driving under the influence of drugs.
As reported in his 2006 New York Times obituary, rumors of a PCP habit had already surfaced by the time his erratic behavior came to a head in September when he reportedly stormed into the insurance company next to his office waving a shotgun and complaining that strangers were using his bathroom.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
It might have been the drugs.
joe rogan
Or someone took a shit in his bathroom.
Maybe he just had a thing about them doing that.
God, I wish I met him.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
He would have been a fun guy to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
So wait, who's on your list then?
joe rogan
He's one of them.
Prince was another one.
unidentified
It continues.
joe rogan
Oh, it continues?
It gets worse?
Here it goes.
When the police arrived, Brown led them on a high-speed chase through Georgia and South Carolina.
Oh, my God.
He tried to ram police cars with his pickup truck.
They shot out two of his tires.
He drove on the rims for six miles.
Years later, this episode would frame the 2014 Brown biopic, Get On Up.
bert kreischer
Wait, was that Jamie Foxx in there?
In that?
Who was in the biopic?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Jamie Foxx played Ray Charles.
I don't know.
Who played James Brown?
I don't know that biopic.
Did he really?
Wow.
No shit.
bert kreischer
Oh, I bet this is fucking good.
joe rogan
Chadwick Boseman was a talented fucking dude.
Did you ever see the video where he gets interviewed by this woman and she's asking him whether or not he's going to do Black Panther 2?
And he goes, well, I'm dead, so I can't.
And she goes, no, don't say that.
He goes, but I am.
But I'm dead.
Because he had cancer, and he knew he was dying.
Like he was real thin at the time, and he hadn't announced it to anybody.
He was like smiling when he said it.
See if you can find that.
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
That sounds crazy.
joe rogan
Somebody sent that to me on Instagram.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I saw that.
joe rogan
I was like, oh my god, this is crazy.
bert kreischer
You got to give respect to those people that don't tell you they're dying.
joe rogan
Norm MacDonald.
bert kreischer
Norm MacDonald.
I would be the exact opposite.
joe rogan
Probably.
bert kreischer
I can't help myself.
joe rogan
I can't wait for those 3 a.m.
phone calls.
Should've listened to you, Joe.
Here I am.
You guys heard about that special you shot, right?
unidentified
Norm MacDonald?
joe rogan
Norm MacDonald, yes.
There's a special that's gonna come out on Netflix.
unidentified
Any idea when?
I thought it...
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I mean, why isn't it out already?
bert kreischer
It's him just doing it alone in a theater.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
I think.
That's what I was told.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Listen to this.
I'm already dead, he says.
unidentified
Black Panther 2, anything?
I'm dead.
No, I'm not ready for you to be dead, Chadwick.
But I am.
I'm dead.
bert kreischer
Oh, man.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Knowing he's dying of cancer and had been for years, not telling anybody, and then saying that like that.
bert kreischer
How unfair do you think you have to believe life is if you've worked your whole life?
You change superheroes forever, and then you realize, I don't get to feel it.
I don't get to ride it out.
joe rogan
Well, that's not a fairness, Bert.
unidentified
No, I said unfair, didn't I? Yeah, it's not unfairness.
joe rogan
It's not fairness.
It just fucking sucks.
You know, it's not fair for anybody to be Black Panther.
There's millions of people.
It's not fair for you to be Burt Kreischer.
There's no fair.
When someone becomes very famous and then it gets taken away from them, it's not fair.
Nothing's fair.
It's never fair for you to get there in the first place.
bert kreischer
It's horrible.
It's horrible that you get to achieve your dreams and then you find out you won't get to see how much fun they could have been.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What do you think about them doing a Black Panther 2 with someone else?
Because people like that is blasphemy.
Like, you shouldn't do that.
bert kreischer
You mean with a white guy?
I like it.
Well, he's got a mask on.
You can't tell.
joe rogan
Why don't they...
I mean, I think he would probably want someone else to do it.
I think so.
All those people that worked together on that movie...
I mean, it wouldn't be...
Look, think about how many Spider-Mans have been.
How many Batmans have there been?
There have been like four or five Hulks, right?
bert kreischer
Yeah, you're right, but it does feel sacrilegious to...
joe rogan
Right, because he's dead.
bert kreischer
Because he's dead.
And we didn't know about it, and the way it happened was just so like, fuck.
joe rogan
The Spider-Man thing's kind of gangster.
They just make a new one.
They go, yeah, we're tired of paying you that much.
We're going to get some fucking 20-year-old kid that- Is that what they do?
I mean, that's what I would do.
If I was some gangster Hollywood executive type guy, and I was like, listen, listen, listen, listen, we can pay this Peter Parker 20 million bucks a film, or we can pay this guy 100,000 and make him a star.
bert kreischer
God.
joe rogan
We sign him to a three-picture deal where he gets the same amount of money per movie, and at the end of that, we go, hey, we got this new guy named Tom Holland, and we really think he's going to be good at the role, and we're going to just start the fucking movie from the beginning.
They tell the whole story again, just slightly different.
He gets bit by a spider, becomes Spider-Man.
How many fucking times are they going to tell us the same story that we have seen over and over and over again?
Well, they've done it already like three or four times with different Peter Parkers.
They keep switching.
bert kreischer
I thought they were doing that because they had to make a certain amount of movies under their contract.
Or they lose the right to Spider-Man.
joe rogan
I don't know why they swap out Peter Parker.
No, that's why.
I have no idea.
But Tobey Maguire might have got tired of doing Spider-Man, and they maybe moved on.
You know, he does a lot of other movies.
I mean, who knows?
bert kreischer
No, I think they have to make a Spider-Man every year.
I'm not even joking.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
bert kreischer
Or they lose their contract to Spider-Man.
unidentified
Oh.
jamie vernon
If Spider-Man's in a weird place, Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man, like the character.
joe rogan
It's in Marvel.
But Sony owns the rights in film form?
jamie vernon
Right, so when they were going to make The Avengers, they made a trade, sort of like a sports trade, where they're like, we'll let you borrow Spider-Man for a few movies, and you'll let us do this.
unidentified
I forget what they gave them in exchange.
So that's why that last movie was such a big blowout.
They're like...
jamie vernon
It's our last movie we get to make with them.
Go balls to the wall, make a fucking crazy movie.
The Morbius movie is in Spider-Man's world, but it has nothing to do with the Marvel stuff.
joe rogan
The new one is interesting because it's in the metaverse, so they have all the Spider-Mans come together, which is very weird.
I'm like, how strange is that?
They're all out trying to out-Peter Parker each other, because they're all Peter Parker.
They're just Peter Parker from different dimensions.
bert kreischer
I don't even know what Metaverse is.
I was going to lie to you.
joe rogan
It's the new Facebook.
Oh, sorry.
There's differences.
Yeah, you're right.
Multiverse, excuse me.
Yeah, what they're doing is interesting.
Because they started that with that other one, the cartoon.
What was the cartoon again?
unidentified
Into the Spider-Verse.
joe rogan
Into the Spider-Verse.
So Into the Spider-Verse was there's multiple universes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that this is one Spider-Man, there's another Spider-Man in another universe, and that, you know, you can kind of, people could travel back and forth through universes.
That was the first time they had really implemented that.
They just updated it with the new Doctor Strange movie.
Yeah, so everything is multiverse now.
It's really interesting because what it does is, as a tool, as a writer, and as a tool for the people that are creating the film, it allows you to, there's no timeline is locked in.
You can do whatever you want.
You could have people come from other dimensions.
You could enter into the dimensions.
You go back and forth.
You're not locked into, you know, 2022, living in America.
This is where it's going down.
The aliens have landed.
No, you go back and forth in time.
You disappear.
You come back.
You have other Doctor Stranges come from other dimensions.
bert kreischer
Oh, wow.
I like the multiverse.
joe rogan
It's pretty dope.
tony hinchcliffe
It's crazy.
Have you seen that new movie, Everything Everywhere All at Once?
joe rogan
No, but I keep hearing amazing things about it.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, we just saw it this past...
joe rogan
Did you go to the movie theater?
tony hinchcliffe
Weekend, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at you, like a regular person.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I like it.
joe rogan
How was it?
Tell me what...
It's a multiverse kind of movie, right?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, it's like that.
She ends up figuring out how to...
Switch into her different lives and like take different times, different lives that she's lived throughout all of time.
bert kreischer
Wait, what the fuck?
tony hinchcliffe
And fast forward and rewind and use these things to her advantage and try to accomplish things.
It's crazy.
bert kreischer
Oh, I love time travel.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, it's wild.
joe rogan
Everything, everywhere, all at once.
You know, that was the theory that Terrence McKenna had to the thing that's going to change the universe, is that one day someone's going to invent a time machine, and that when they invent a time machine, all time ceases to become linear.
So you think if you have a time machine, well, oh, I'll just go back to the time where they were making the pyramids, and I'll watch them do it.
That's not what it works like.
What he was saying, you can't travel where there are no roads.
So once a road gets built, then you can travel.
So once a time machine gets invented, then anyone from the invention of the time machine forward to forever can come back to that moment and can go to any point in time from that moment to the end of time.
So all time ceases to be linear.
So there's no, like, tomorrow will be Wednesday and the next day will be Thursday.
No, no, no.
It's everything happens everywhere all at once.
unidentified
I love this.
joe rogan
So people can travel back and forth through time.
You can never own anything because someone could just travel through time and take it away from you when you weren't looking.
Like, as time travel gets more and more sophisticated, you can go back and forth in time while you're talking to people.
If you don't like what you said, you could rewind and start all over again.
If you're in an argument with your wife, you can go to the library and get information and come back and go, actually, Herodotus once said, and then bam, your wife thinks you're the smartest guy in the world.
But there would be no normal life anymore.
The world itself would be completely unrecognizable because time would mean nothing.
You'd be able to travel back and forth through time.
bert kreischer
Alright, so then, where would you go right now?
We can time travel right now, go back in the past.
In the past.
What's one thing you'd like to see again?
joe rogan
See, that would be a different kind of time travel.
That's an unrealistic theatrical version of time travel, because like you said, once time is invented, once time travel is invented, that's the time you can start traveling.
bert kreischer
So you can't go before that.
joe rogan
Right.
So here we are.
It's May of 2022. If time travel is invented in June, we're not going back to April.
You can't go back to April.
But you can go from June to a million years in the future and see what people look like.
You'll be able to do that.
But they'll be able to come back too, and everything's going to be happening everywhere all at once.
There's not going to be any sort of structure to life.
There's not going to be anything in terms of money, possessions.
As long as you can freely time travel, there will be no time.
Everything's going to be moving around.
Instantaneously, you'll become immortal.
Because whatever we have right now in terms of technology, what we're going to have in a million years is going to be godlike.
You're going to be able to travel to that, if in fact that actually does even take place.
Because the question becomes, what is the future if time travel does exist?
So if time travel exists in June of 2022, is there even a future?
Does it even take place?
Because how can anybody invent things?
When they can just travel to a point where someone invented it already.
But how are they gonna invent it already if you can just travel to the future?
And do they invent things still?
Or if they do invent things, what's to stop people from going back before them and taking the idea and introducing it before that?
Thus there'll be no intellectual property.
Because there'll be no way to say you came up with it first.
It won't exist.
tony hinchcliffe
Carlos Mencia will be the greatest comedian in the world.
Just smashing.
bert kreischer
Wow.
joe rogan
Think about that.
bert kreischer
Is there someone working on time machines right now?
There's got to be, right?
joe rogan
Well, there's a guy named Ronald Millett.
I think he's out of the University of Connecticut, if you Google this.
And he's got the craziest Spider-Man character origin story.
His father died and he became obsessed with time travel because he wanted to go back in time and save his father.
So he became a professor studying time travel and he came up with a workable model of a time machine.
But it requires immense, immense power.
That's him.
Ron Millett built a device that illustrates the principles he believes could be used to build a time machine.
He was one of the people that came up with the first...
one of the first people to come up with the realization or the revelation that once that time machine was invented...
bert kreischer
His dad died in Vietnam.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's I mean it is really a comic book superhero sort of a origin story, isn't it?
bert kreischer
Yeah, it's a great origin story.
joe rogan
Yeah, so this guy has become obsessed and has been working on it for decades and they think they have a working model of you know like at least a theoretical model of a time machine, but it just requires like the power of the Sun.
It requires immense power.
I think there's a guy from I think the early 19th century, Kurt Godel, he wasn't from the early 19th century, early 20th century, and he had a working model of a time machine too, but it involved something as large as like the solar system.
Like you needed a machine the size of a solar system or something, something crazy.
Yeah.
Kirk Godel, in 1949, found a solution to the field equations of general relativity which described a space-time with some unusual properties.
This Godel universe permitted closed time-like curves, hence a kind of time travel, and it did not admit decomposition into the successive moments of time.
Yeah, so he had...
bert kreischer
I didn't understand any of that sentence.
I'm so stupid that if I start to realize what that means, it gives me a panic attack.
As you talk about there's no anything ever anywhere.
Or when you just mentioned the universe, and I realize there is...
There is something really up there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It's not just up there.
bert kreischer
It's out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all around you.
For infinity.
bert kreischer
That fucking gives me a panic attack.
Immediately.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll give you a panic attack if you really do stop and give it time and think about it.
It's an amazing thing.
jamie vernon
Do you think that they'll be able to take, I don't know if we have to go to computer modeling, but take the data of this video, for instance, where these kids are in 1901, and put that into virtual reality where you could then insert yourself to be in there.
You can't affect anything, but you could at least experience and hear what it's like.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you probably get an interpretation of it.
Like, say if they wanted to do that today and they had this unbelievable ability to create people and images and places, and they decided to show you the construction of the pyramids, they would just be guessing.
It's one of the most amazing things about the world that we live in today, that we just accept the fact that there's immense stone structures that are thousands and thousands of years old, that were perfectly constructed, that we can't replicate today.
bert kreischer
Easter Island.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's not as impressive.
Easter Island's pretty crazy.
It's pretty crazy.
They don't know how they did it.
They don't know how they moved them.
They don't know why they did it.
bert kreischer
They had no trees on the island.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot of cool shit about Easter Island, for sure.
But it can't fuck with the pyramids.
The pyramids are the ultimate fuck you to anybody who thinks they understand the human timeline.
They understand what technology was capable, what humans were capable of 5,000 plus years ago.
bert kreischer
Yeah, those Oculus, when you talk about going in, what's that called?
joe rogan
Yeah, virtual reality.
bert kreischer
Virtual reality.
Brian Simpson came to my house, and it's like a guy not knowing me very well, but then knowing me better than I know myself.
He goes, hey man, I brought my Oculus thing.
I thought you'd like to try it out.
And I was like, I'm good.
I don't play video games.
He's like, no, no, no.
I don't think you know what this is.
And I was like, alright.
So he takes me into my gym and he puts it on my head.
I bought one 50 seconds later.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
And then I found out you can watch porn on it.
And they have a porn that'll link up to a vagina that you can put your dick in.
joe rogan
Have you done this?
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
How many times have you done this?
tony hinchcliffe
It's just your buddy blowing you up.
bert kreischer
Sadly, I guess.
joe rogan
That's the porn.
bert kreischer
Hold on, hold on.
Have you seen Joey Diaz on the guestbook?
Have you seen Joey Diaz on the guestbook?
joe rogan
No.
It's fucking hilarious.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
They both have oculuses on.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's blonde.
bert kreischer
And Joey Diaz comes in to suck the guy's dick.
Oh, it's the fucking greatest.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
bert kreischer
I would definitely use a fucking oculus to have sex like that.
I would without a doubt do it.
joe rogan
Do you think that you would do that first or would you fuck an actual real-world AI robot first?
Like, if you had the options.
bert kreischer
If I had the options, I'd probably want to fuck a robot.
joe rogan
If you had like a super hot robot looking...
bert kreischer
I don't even need it to be that hot.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
What do you want?
bert kreischer
I don't know, just something different would be cool.
Just fucking...
Just switch it up a little bit.
Just to not know my wife's name and be able to keep a secret.
You know how weird you could get with one of those things?
Start really living out fantasies.
joe rogan
Yeah, with a robot.
bert kreischer
You're like, hey, her arm came off.
And they're like, what?
And they're like, ah, we got a little rough in there.
joe rogan
Well, that's Westworld, right?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Oh, Westworld's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I like season one.
I didn't get into season two.
I just, whatever reason, I tapped out after season one, but it was really good.
It's an interesting concept because it was based on that Yul Brynner movie from a long time ago where people wanted to live out a life of adventure and gonna go and shoot these robots, but the robots sort of rewire themselves or something, and then they actually come after you.
They come after you back like you can't win.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those robots wanted their freedom.
They became sentient.
They wanted to be alive.
Some of them didn't even know they were robots.
bert kreischer
So someone could create a robot universe for you to go in on weekends and play in, right?
joe rogan
I think that's one of the lessons of that show is that it turned people into sociopaths.
They wanted to go and shoot people and kill people.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but where would you want to go live out?
Like, if you could pick a time period where you could just go in and, like, be in an old Western, be in the Gunslingers, or go in the Samurai Days.
Or, like, Genghis Khan and fucking shooting.
joe rogan
I don't think I'd be interested in going into a fake Genghis Khan day.
Because it was, first of all, you wouldn't see the real chaos.
Of that existence.
The fear that those people lived under knowing that the horde was coming over the top of the mountain and there's no escape.
And that these people would cannibalize each other.
They would literally eat another soldier in order to have food so they could keep their march going.
bert kreischer
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one of the things they did.
They slaughtered their horses to eat.
They did whatever they had to do.
They had a shitload of horses.
And they killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 to 70 million people during that time of Genghis Khan's life.
bert kreischer
Isn't it crazy they made a movie about him with John Wayne?
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about it many times.
bert kreischer
Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
Well, it's also crazy that Genghis Khan would talk like that.
It's like the weirdest stupid white replacement movie.
They have him play a Mongolian.
bert kreischer
How soon until you think they make an empathetic Hitler movie?
joe rogan
Wow.
bert kreischer
Where they go, we're going to show the other side of him, like the artist side.
joe rogan
I don't think that's ever gonna happen.
bert kreischer
Well they did it with Genghis Khan.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they didn't know any better.
I don't think they understood what Genghis Khan had done.
When you hear about Genghis Khan now, there's enough from Dan Carlin, I think, that's changed a lot of people's understanding of Genghis Khan.
I should say Genghis, because that's how he says it, and that's how you're really supposed to say it.
But that guy was responsible for 10% of the world's population being murdered during his life.
10%.
They killed so many people, it changed the carbon footprint of Earth.
There's so many less people during the time of Genghis Khan that it's measurable in the carbon footprint on Earth.
How wild is that?
That's how many people that got killed.
bert kreischer
That's fucking insane.
joe rogan
They killed everybody.
They killed everybody.
They would show up in, like, Jin, China.
There was the Khwarizmian Shah had sent these emissaries to go visit Jin, China.
And as these guys are getting closer to the city, they think they're looking at a snow-capped mountain in the distance.
And as they get closer, they realize it's a pile of bones.
They killed a million people and stacked them on top of each other.
And they had abandoned the roads because the roads were so caked with human fat that the decaying bodies had made the roads mud and it was untravelable.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
Now, when you think about horrific things that Washington had done, right, or the people, and then you go back further, like a thousand years further, you realize, like, people just get worse and worse and worse the further you go back.
Like, the further you go back in history, the more and more horrific people, like, and what they're capable of.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Yeah, we're watching Catherine the Great.
It's on, like, Netflix.
And they've done a really good job of, like, cleaning it up and making it not sound that bad.
But then, like, it's fun.
It's a funny show, oddly enough.
And then you read it on your phone.
That night I listened to a documentary because I was like, oh, this is a really good show.
I listened to a documentary and she was...
They were horrible.
joe rogan
Horrible people back then.
bert kreischer
Fucking, her husband Peter had a brother that was younger, that was the real heir to the throne.
He just put him in a room, locked the door, and was like, no one knows about him.
Jesus.
I mean, they really did that shit.
And you just look and like, killed, one of his friends tried to kill Peter the Great, and then Peter the Great just killed all his chefs and was like, I'll just hang them all up in the, like the callousness of which people act, behaved.
joe rogan
So someone tried to kill him with poisoned food?
Is that what it was?
bert kreischer
His best friend tried to kill him with paint.
He put paint in his soup.
joe rogan
Whoa, paint?
bert kreischer
Yeah, in his kvass or whatever.
joe rogan
Paint would kill you?
bert kreischer
Yeah, whatever the paint they used back then was pretty poisonous.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
bert kreischer
And so he put it in his kvass or whatever, and he ate it.
The dog ate it.
The dog died.
He almost died.
And then when he got better, he just went and killed all the people that touched that food that day.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
bert kreischer
You think that that is how people behaved that's like what 1800 so that's like I Mean when when did people start getting nicer?
I mean this was like recent once like people could share information That's really yeah, but in the 70s and the 60s people well They were way more brutal then than they are now do mississippi burnin mississippi burnin I mean that's insane to me that that A cop would pull over three people that are protesters or whatever.
They're trying to get their voting rights or whatever.
And then they'd murder them and they'd be like, well, let's put them in that big ditch.
And think they'd get away with it.
I mean, that's crazy.
That's like 70 years ago now, probably.
joe rogan
You know what?
I bet they had gotten away with it already.
bert kreischer
A million times.
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet they'd already killed a bunch of people.
bert kreischer
We were just in Tulsa and I was just in Tulsa and they had the Tulsa Massacre.
You know what that is?
And I was reading that.
joe rogan
Tell people about the Tulsa Massacre.
bert kreischer
Tulsa Massacre was a young shoeshine boy, black kid, in an elevator.
And allegedly, I'm probably 100% sure that he didn't, assaulted the white girl that ran the elevator.
So they arrested him.
And then maybe like a couple months before, there had been a lynching of a white man who got arrested for something.
So they just pretty much assumed, well, let's go lynch this guy.
Well, the black community found out about it and took up arms.
And now the problem was the affluent in Greenwood district in Tulsa, the black community had made good money.
They were really kind of like progressing and there was a lot of resentment within Tulsa of this community that was progressing.
So they grab arms, they go to surround the jail so they can't lynch this kid because they know he's innocent and fucking all hell breaks loose.
The fucking white people chased the black people back to Greenwood.
Old man tells a black kid he's not allowed to have a gun.
Guy shoots him.
And then the white people came in and just destroyed the Greenwood district.
And we performed a block from where this happened.
And they just decimated it.
joe rogan
And they burned all the houses down?
bert kreischer
Burned all the houses.
And these were like black people who were doing well in society.
They were making money.
joe rogan
And what year was this?
Looks like it was in the 30s.
bert kreischer
21. But thinking, like, lynchings and shit.
Like, it's kind of fucked up when you see, when you think, this is crazy, but I'm in Tulsa, I'm going for a jog, and I'm looking at trees going, was there a lynching there?
Like, because it was popular, it was, you know, if the community thought someone was guilty, they'd just go and grab them from the jail and do it themselves.
unidentified
Whoa.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it seems like...
I think you're right, Tony.
I think what you said is right.
When people are able to share information, when people are more aware...
Because you could cover up a story like that in the news.
Like, you could not report a story.
You know, it's one of the things, like, as time went on, and more and more reporters, and there's more and more distribution of these stories, and then you teach them in school, people teach them at universities, and then, of course, now, where just...
You can get information on basically anything.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, that was 1921, so imagine if you lived in...
I don't know, the top of Maine or something.
You wouldn't even find out about that, right?
You might have one rich friend in the neighborhood that's like, yo, check out what the newspaper says.
joe rogan
Right, and if you didn't read it that day, you'd probably never hear about it.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Imagine how many murders were committed back in the 1800s where no one got caught.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
How would they catch you?
Unless they saw you shoot somebody.
How would they catch you?
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, there was no model for police work or anything even.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
There's no forensics.
joe rogan
Well, when you watch those old-timey movies about the Wild West, and they go through the Wild West, and they're having fucking shootouts in the street, and they're hanging out in opium dens, that's real.
It's a real representation of how they used to do it.
The West was lawless.
They would fucking shoot people down the streets.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
There was murders all the time.
tony hinchcliffe
Would they really though?
Was there like an oath that we'll do it at the same time?
We'll pull our guns at the same time?
It seems like everybody would always.
joe rogan
That's duels.
They definitely did that.
tony hinchcliffe
They did?
joe rogan
Yeah, they definitely did that.
bert kreischer
It's crazy that there was, that you could deputize someone.
Where were we just at?
Oh, I was listening to Billy the Kid.
The story about Billy the Kid, right?
Mm-hmm.
And I didn't realize that this is so stupid.
I didn't realize that Young Guns was pretty accurate.
I thought Young Guns was fictional.
Young Guns is pretty nonfiction.
joe rogan
The one with Kiefer Sutherland?
bert kreischer
Kiefer Sutherland.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
That follows the fucking storyline of Billy the Kid pretty accurately.
joe rogan
No shit.
bert kreischer
Yeah, as I was listening to it, I go, wait, I know who that guy is.
I know who that guy is too.
Like, oh, that's that guy.
And I'm like, shut the fuck up.
They're all real people that were around in that time.
But the big thing with Billy the Kid is, and it's in Young Guns, is they all get deputized, right?
And as they go down to go get the guy in Mexico or whatever, as they come back, someone goes, oh, you guys weren't deputies anymore.
So now everything you just did was illegal.
And so, like, it's crazy that people would deputize each other and be like, hey, man, you're the sheriff now.
And you'd be like, fuck, man, I definitely would have accidentally been deputized one night.
joe rogan
Could you imagine, like, you're all coming over to the West because you want gold?
So people come from all over the world.
You hear about the gold rush.
You make your way over to Alaska or wherever the fuck you're going.
San Francisco is a big one.
They make their way over there.
And then there's no law.
There's no law.
It's just like a mining town.
And then prostitutes show up, and then there's pimps, and then there's gambling saloons, and then there's places to buy liquor, and people get all fucked up and start shooting each other.
Pretty wild, man, to think that that's not that long ago.
bert kreischer
Oh, I get hung up on the fact, can you imagine riding a horse from New York to California?
Do you know how much that would hurt?
Have you ever ridden a horse, like, full-blown ridden a horse?
joe rogan
Not really.
bert kreischer
Okay.
joe rogan
No, I've never, like, when they're running full clip or anything.
bert kreischer
Oh, dude, it's fucking, it's better than sex sometimes.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
How are you doing sex?
bert kreischer
I do it differently than riding horses, but, dude, when you get, there is a symbiotic moment when you go full tilt with a horse, right?
Full sprint with a horse, where you're- and only people that have done this with horses know this.
There's a mo- because it starts- You merge, like the Na'vi avatar?
Yeah, and all of a sudden, all you see is the horse's head doing this, and your body doesn't- you're kind of up in your feet, and you're like, oh, it is the most fucking exhilarating feeling in the world.
Anything other than that sucks dick.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
Yeah, it's like a canter is like ow, ow, ow, ow, and a gallop's like, those are my nuts, those are my nuts, those are my nuts.
And then you walk in, you're like, this is gonna fucking take forever.
But once you get into that fucking sprint...
joe rogan
So you're in the rhythm of the horse.
bert kreischer
The horse, you become one with the horse, and you...
And you're flying.
Your hat flies off.
You're fucking up in your saddle and it's just fucking one of the coolest things I've ever done.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
I loved it, man.
I would do that.
I would be something I would wake you up in the morning is go take your horse for a nice...
I mean, just everything about horses is pretty magical.
You got to go to a field and catch it, right?
Your horse isn't just there.
It's on a field.
You gotta go on the field and catch it.
That was fucking crazy.
Like, and then you get, you get, like, cause when you catch a horse, how I call a horse, is get him to come to you, get him up, trust you, and all you gotta do is throw a rope over his neck.
Just throw a rope over his neck and he's yours.
He goes, alright, you got me.
joe rogan
It doesn't even have to be around his neck?
bert kreischer
No, just lay it over the top of his neck.
And by the way, this is my horse.
I'm sure there's other people out there who have no idea what he's talking about.
But the horse, all you got to do is put him over his neck.
And then you got to break a horse.
Dude, I watched real cowboys break horses.
joe rogan
Was this on Yellowstone?
bert kreischer
No, it wasn't.
It was for Trip Flip, sadly.
Guy lives in Texas, too.
John, I wish I knew his last name.
Just outside Houston, he has Buffalo, and we ran Buffalo for him.
And we were his cowhands for a week.
And we did everything soup to nuts.
Learned how to ride a horse.
Learned how to maneuver a horse so you could run Buffalo.
Learned how to make a horse go sideways.
Turn this way, turn this way, back up.
And then...
Dude, we spent the whole week on horses, on horseback, camping, horseback, campfires, guitars.
It was fun as shit.
And the last day, we had to run buffalo for him.
Take buffalo from one field to another field into a pen.
And it was exhilarating.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bert kreischer
Yeah, because you've been with this horse for the whole week, so you know this horse.
You've washed it.
You've brushed it.
You've done everything to this horse, right?
And then it's you and him.
And I think my name of mine was Buck.
And it's fucking 30 buffalo.
And it's you and Buck.
And you're like, okay, Buck.
Come on, Buck.
And you just move him sideways.
And all is just gently coercing the buffalo to go one way and don't piss anyone off.
And it was exhilarating.
And I understand, like, when you hear about the Cowboys and how they originated here and would run the cow from up, I can see how that would be...
Something that would call a young man, like when there's not much else to do in this world, go, oh yeah, I'm gonna be a fucking cowboy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it was cool as shit, man.
joe rogan
I know some ranchers.
I know some guys who work on a ranch, and they love it.
They really do love it.
They love the riding the horses.
They love wrangling the cows.
They love all the...
There's like something pure about it.
I think there's something about it also that appeals to ancient DNA, because I think it's something that human beings have done for a long time, like ride horses and wrangle cattle and take care of things in a farm, and as you're sustaining this farm, you know this farm will sustain life, right?
You're growing food.
You have animals there that you're tending to.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's very primal.
bert kreischer
Oh, it's very primal.
And horses read your energy.
So like one morning I came in really hungover, and I got on my horse, and you could see my horse was like, what's going on with you?
I got bucked off a horse in Costa Rica.
Were you drunk?
No, stone sober.
I got bit by a bat the night before.
And I was having anxiety about it, and I was having really bad anxiety.
joe rogan
And the horse realized?
bert kreischer
The second I touched the horse's reins, he went like this.
But I didn't know enough about horses.
I hadn't done all the training before.
So I get on the horse, and even just getting on the horse, the horse is acting fucking odd.
And the guy said, is something going on with you?
And I said, I was bit by a bat yesterday.
And he was like, okay.
He's like, well, I think your horse is reading your energy.
And I was like, okay, then just get me off him.
And he's like, hold on.
You're gonna be fine.
And then we start going.
And I guess there's something different that you do with those horses than you do with other horses.
Whereas...
I was trying to get him to stop, I guess, but I was putting my feet on his belly, which for him meant take the fuck off, and he would take the fuck off, and then he started bucking, and I fucking popped up out of the saddle one foot off, and then the guy came and grabbed him and was like, hey man, you're off the fucking horse.
What's going on with you?
And I was like, I don't know, the horse doesn't like me.
And he's like, no, it's you.
It's you.
And then I just got in the car and started drinking.
unidentified
I was terrified.
bert kreischer
I was terrified.
joe rogan
Yeah, horses are...
It's an incredibly powerful animal.
It doesn't want you on it.
That's why I don't understand rodeo guys.
I mean, they're out of their fucking minds.
bert kreischer
Dude.
joe rogan
That is such a wild thing to do with your time.
bert kreischer
Joel's boyfriend getting on bulls?
Bulls are fucking...
Bulls are fucking...
I'll never fuck around with another bull.
joe rogan
Broncos are insane.
Bulls are insane.
It's all insane.
It's insane.
A horse is only slightly less insane than a bull if it's trying to get you off.
When they're out there with kicking Broncos like that, is that more or less insane?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
I think I would much rather fuck with a horse than a bull.
joe rogan
Yeah, because a horse has horns.
You can shove them up your asshole.
You ever see that...
I mean, there's been a bunch of them, but these matadors who get jacked, and they get it up the ass.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, I've seen all those videos.
joe rogan
Tears their colon apart, literally poking out of the top of their hip, because the horn goes through their asshole, through all this meat underneath, and pops out somewhere.
tony hinchcliffe
I've seen all of those.
unidentified
This guy got one under the chin.
bert kreischer
That's a great one.
unidentified
Oh, motherfucker!
joe rogan
That's a great one.
bert kreischer
I did not need to see that.
joe rogan
Did that guy die?
bert kreischer
He had to.
He had to.
joe rogan
Look at this one.
Oh, my God.
bert kreischer
It's so bloody.
Motherfucker.
joe rogan
Look at that guy right up the asshole.
Woof, buddy.
bert kreischer
It's so beautiful.
Have you ever been to a bullfight?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
Oh, I have.
Maybe I should say it.
Am I going to get canceled now?
unidentified
No, say it.
bert kreischer
You didn't fight a bull.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
The guy's got it in his asshole.
Oh, look at all the blood.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Oh, my God, dude.
There looks like a hole in his back, too.
Like it got him in his back, and then look at all the blood on that fucking bull.
Oh, wait a minute.
The blood on the bull might also be because of those spears in it.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
See all the spears?
That might be where the blood on his antlers, or his horns rather, are.
bert kreischer
They stabbed the bull like five times with those things before they kill it.
joe rogan
To try to compromise it and make it weak.
bert kreischer
We went to a bullfight in Spain when I was in college.
joe rogan
That guy getting one.
Let me see that photo again.
The guy with it up his mouth.
The one up his mouth.
I feel like we should get that one done on a metal painting.
unidentified
That's a fucking NFT. Wow.
joe rogan
What if that guy died?
bert kreischer
He had just fucking...
unidentified
I can't even look at it.
tony hinchcliffe
Recovering well.
joe rogan
Recovering well.
bert kreischer
Has a hard time with soup, but he's doing great.
joe rogan
Hey man, what happened to your neck?
It's a long story.
tony hinchcliffe
Still holding onto a sword in that picture.
bert kreischer
Fuck, fuck, fuck.
joe rogan
Is that guy dead?
He looks dead as fuck.
unidentified
He looks dead.
joe rogan
He looks dead.
Bullfighter gored through the neck today.
Oh, there's a lot of those, I guess.
It's crazy that they still do that, right?
Because...
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
What a strange ritual.
It's so barbaric to do that in 2022, to have this thing, ole!
And to trick the bull, but know that there's a possibility that bull's going to get you.
tony hinchcliffe
You wouldn't go to it if it happened here in Austin?
If there was at the racetrack or something like that?
joe rogan
No, I don't think I would go here.
But if I was in another country and it was happening, I wouldn't want to support it in America.
But it was happening in some other countries.
There's nothing you're doing to change this.
It is what it is.
It's here.
You want to see it?
I'd have to see it.
Because it's like the opportunity to see something so insane.
It's rare in life.
I would go see the Running of the Bulls, too.
bert kreischer
Would you do the Running of the Bulls?
joe rogan
Fuck!
No.
bert kreischer
Oh, come on.
joe rogan
Fuck no.
bert kreischer
It's so fucking easy.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if you are up in the air and you see the cobblestone and you realize you're going to get pile-drived headfirst in the cobblestone by a 2,000-pound animal and then you didn't have to do that.
This is totally unnecessary.
bert kreischer
It's so dangerous.
joe rogan
People die every year.
bert kreischer
Yeah, people who want to die.
What?
I've been to the running of the bulls.
unidentified
You did it?
bert kreischer
You ran?
No, I didn't do it.
I was in college.
It was right when we saw the bullfight, too.
I think we saw it the same day.
It must have been.
I think we did the bullfight in the thing.
unidentified
Oh.
bert kreischer
And so, but they fucking, these guys are all running slow to get near the bull.
They want to touch the bull.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
Yeah, so you could easily do it and never see a fucking bull.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's gotta get trampled.
unidentified
Oof.
joe rogan
But the bulls aren't trying to fuck these people up?
bert kreischer
No, the bulls are just, actually, the bulls are pretty innocent, and they're just trying to get the fuck out of there.
joe rogan
But sometimes the bulls trample people.
bert kreischer
No, it does.
joe rogan
And throw people up in the air and fuck them up.
bert kreischer
So we were at the very beginning of the race, so the race is like, I think it's, I'm not certain, but we were there where they're doing it, and where the front of the line is, when they do the gun, It's like a cannon.
joe rogan
They are trying to touch it.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it's people who want...
These are all real men that this is part of pride for them is to get close to the bull and touch the bull.
Then they know...
joe rogan
Now the bull's pissed.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, that guy tried to...
Yeah, that guy pushed him off.
Big mistake.
bert kreischer
You could theoretically do this and never see a bull.
You could just do the run and just fucking run to the bull ring and be done.
But the fun is this for these people.
joe rogan
Oh, that guy's getting jacked.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, Jesus Christ.
unidentified
He found him.
tony hinchcliffe
That was the original guy.
joe rogan
Well, how does he know?
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
tony hinchcliffe
Because of that blue and yellow.
joe rogan
Oh, my God, this guy doesn't have his fucking pants on.
He's getting trampled.
bert kreischer
That's not how you want to go out.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh, fuck, man.
bert kreischer
That's like the worst place to be.
tony hinchcliffe
Bulls have teeth, too.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, it's in his thigh, man.
bert kreischer
It's in his hand.
unidentified
It's in his hand.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
bert kreischer
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Now he has to.
bert kreischer
Go.
Get.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
And they dragged him on the ground with his bare ass.
That had to hurt, too.
tony hinchcliffe
What is that guy doing?
bert kreischer
They're trying to turn him around and go, get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
That guy's got to keep hanging on.
tony hinchcliffe
That bull's looking for that guy.
Look at this.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus Christ!
bert kreischer
That's in his leg.
unidentified
I don't know about that one, Jamie!
At first I just had the shirt.
bert kreischer
That's in his leg.
That's in his leg.
joe rogan
That's 100% in the middle of his leg.
bert kreischer
That's in his fucking leg.
That's in his fucking leg.
When we did it, man, I'm telling you, it looked like, when we were there, it looked like you could run before you ever saw a bull.
Because we got in a good spot.
We ended up sitting on the ledge and watching it.
We were in the thing, and then they're pretty much like, hey, everyone clear out if you're not going to fucking run.
So me and my buddy Weecho went up and climbed up on a ledge.
And we watched them go, and it's like, they're like, when the fuck are the bulls coming by?
And there are people that are way ahead that I don't even think you'll ever see a bull.
Or maybe they get ahead and that's where they'll see them.
But you could do it, theoretically, I think, and just sprint and never see a bull.
Because it's that many people doing it.
It's a ton of fucking people.
tony hinchcliffe
How long is it from beginning now?
bert kreischer
I want to say it's like half a mile.
It's not...
I don't remember, I don't remember, to be dead honest, it was a long time ago, it was when I was 22, but it was a fun fucking party.
The craziest thing is people climbing statues.
They're just like, people are climbing like 40-foot statues and just, everyone's going, ole, ole, ole, ole, or whatever, you know, the fucking, and dudes are climbing statues and fucking falling and taking headers to the fucking, I mean, it was a crazy party, dude.
It was chaos, shirtless, Sash, fucking white pants, and I had just boda bags of wine.
It was so much fucking fun.
joe rogan
That's what they call them, boda bags?
bert kreischer
I think so, I don't know.
And so we did it.
We got there that day, partied all day, all night, stayed up through the night, slept in a park for a second, went down to the beginning of the running of the bulls, and then me and him bounced and we're like, gotta get the fuck out of here, we're not gonna run with the goddamn bulls.
We've been drinking all night.
And so we went and stood up on a ledge on the fence as the bulls ran by.
It was fucking awesome.
joe rogan
And you didn't see anybody get trampled?
bert kreischer
Oh, we saw people get fucked up, yeah.
People get fucked up.
But there's people that run real slow and kind of wait for the bull and they want to run with the bull.
This is the whole point is to run with the bull.
joe rogan
Isn't it wild that there's parts of the world, like Europe, Europe is a great example, where those cities have been around for a thousand years.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's cities that have been around there forever.
bert kreischer
Oh, we were in Serbia and I was looking around going, Oh, this was around in the 800s.
This has been around for all of time.
Because you go to fucking places in the States and you're like, oh, this has been around since 1800?
But then you go to Serbia and they're like, oh, this was here when Jesus was walking around.
Because in Europe, they've been there forever.
That fucking blows me away.
joe rogan
I think there's a bar in England that's the oldest running bar in the world.
I think it's been a bar for like a thousand years.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Something crazy like that.
See if you can find that.
Like the oldest running bar in the world in England.
It looks like, I mean, it's a slice of time other than what's been changed.
This little area a thousand years ago with candles, people were drinking shitty ale and piss whiskey and whatever the fuck they drank back then.
bert kreischer
Oh, I love it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and this fucking bar is still around.
You found anything?
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
The first one, I was going to try to find a cool picture of it.
unidentified
There's a bar in England that says it's been open since 900. Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
That's the bar.
unidentified
Sean's bar.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
bert kreischer
Since 900?
joe rogan
They don't have any images of it?
jamie vernon
Well, the first picture of this, I was trying to figure out what that was, and then...
unidentified
Yeah, what is that?
joe rogan
That's probably what it used to look like.
Yeah, so...
That was like the outside of the wall.
Like, dirt mud caked over sticks.
unidentified
I can't.
That's not that impressive.
tony hinchcliffe
No, they redid it.
It's like that painting.
unidentified
They redid it.
That's what I was trying to find out.
bert kreischer
It's like that painting.
joe rogan
It is like the painting.
That's what they did.
They redid it.
Wow.
Guinness Book of World Records, but we fucked it up by painting it and giving it a shitty...
Look at that sign.
bert kreischer
I think bar makeover went there.
joe rogan
That's like...
They got letters from Ikea.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
Bar makeover went in.
What is this?
The 900s?
bert kreischer
We're going to turn you into a mixology.
joe rogan
Is that it right there?
That's what it looks like.
What a strange thing a show like Bar Makeover is.
Your bar sucks.
We're going to fix it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're captivated.
Can they do it?
Do they have enough time?
This is only a half hour show.
Captivated.
bert kreischer
The best is when they do the...
Like, if you've done enough production, you know that if you're going to hear someone on television that they have a microphone on.
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
And so you go to Bar Rescue and they're like, these patrons came in in the middle of the afternoon.
They're like...
Where's the bartender?
And you totally hear them.
They're mic'd.
And then the bartender shows up and the bartender's mic'd.
And then you're like, someone had to walk up to these patrons and be like, hey, my name's John.
I'm going to put a mic on you.
Is it okay if I drop it down the center of your shirt?
That happened.
tony hinchcliffe
And they signed a paper.
bert kreischer
They had to sign a paper.
No one fucking films people.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You had to sign a release.
That's the only way you're on that.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Doing the amount of production I did, it made a lot of television not fun.
Because you were like, you could see through everything.
And you're like, oh, come on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, especially if you're doing a reality show, air quotes.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because a lot of those reality shows, they just have these fake scenarios they have to follow.
It's just like shitty theater.
It's like it's not a real script and you get people acting corny and weird and trying to act normal and saying they're ad-libbing stuff.
bert kreischer
It was the best.
When we did The Cabin, originally it was supposed to be scripted, and then we just ran out of time because we couldn't get anyone to commit to doing the show.
So at the last minute, we're like, just fuck it.
Just make it all comics, and we'll all go to a cabin, and we'll just...
We've all done enough...
It's amazing.
Comics have done enough podcasts where they know how to fill time.
All you'd had to say to someone...
Like, Nikki Glaser's so fucking good.
She's so good.
She just, like, came in, she's like, what are we doing?
And I just said, just fucking hang.
She's like, cool.
She's like, who's that?
And I said, Caitlyn Jenner.
She's like, camera's up?
I was like, yeah.
And she's like, okay, we're fucked if it's Caitlyn Jenner.
And I'm like, like, it's just, comics know how to be present and in the moment.
And we're like, why?
And she's like, well, I'm going to tell you a story.
I did the Comedy Central roast, and there were nine jokes I couldn't tell about Caitlyn Jenner, or she would walk off the set.
And I was like, well, you didn't tell them.
She goes, well, I didn't tell them there.
But I went on Stern the next day, and I told all of them.
And I'm certain she has heard them.
And we were like, dun-dun-dun.
And I'm like, you're just a fucking home run.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Had she heard those jokes?
bert kreischer
Caitlin was cool as fuck.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
If she had, she didn't play onto it.
We said some pretty aggressive things, Caitlin, too.
tony hinchcliffe
She's got a great sense of humor.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
She does have a great sense of humor.
She was...
My dad...
My dad...
You met my dad.
Yeah.
My dad on that episode...
None of this was...
Nothing was planned, right?
Nothing.
My dad...
That morning, I'm going to the cabin, and my dad's like, or I call my dad, I think from the cabin, and I go, I have Caitlyn Jenner on today.
And he goes, don't do it, buddy.
It's not worth it.
I said, what?
And he goes, you're going to fuck up a pronoun?
You're going to fuck up something, and the world's going to hate you?
And he goes, it's not worth it, and you don't know who you're talking to?
You're talking to a fucking hero.
And I went, what?
And he goes, buddy, you have no idea.
When you were born, Caitlin was in Montreal doing the...
And my dad's using the right fucking name, right?
Using the right pronouns.
He was like, you were a baby and you sat on my lap and we watched that together.
You have no idea what a hero she is.
So please just treat her with respect.
And I went, Ted, I'm not going to be a dick.
Of course, you know, whatever.
I was a comic.
I said a bunch of crazy stuff.
In the middle of the thing, we're sitting there, me, Nikki, and Caitlyn, and my dad calls.
I go, hey, Dad, you want to talk to Caitlyn Jenner?
And my dad fucking starts crying.
And he's like, you have no idea?
I just want you to know you're my hero.
And he just starts melting down.
And Caitlyn's like, thanks.
And my dad's like, I have a few track questions I want to ask you.
Your pole vaults.
Were they, were they, was it aluminum pole vaults back then?
And then he was like, my dad's like, I'm dying to know how you train for the decathlon.
My dad was in the track, really in the track and field all through college.
Like ran professionally, ran over at Villanova.
And it was like this very moving moment where my dad just melted down, started crying to Caitlyn Jenner.
He was like, you're my hero.
I just want to thank you for being pleasant to my son and whatever.
It was a really cool moment with no one expected.
joe rogan
What's the fucked up questions you asked him?
bert kreischer
I'm not saying them again.
They got edited out.
tony hinchcliffe
My guess is you had different poll questions.
So do you still have your pole?
bert kreischer
That was a version of one of them.
joe rogan
That is a quintessential Tony Hinchcliffe line right there.
That's perfect.
tony hinchcliffe
All dick jokes.
bert kreischer
It was a lot of dick jokes.
We did a lot of fucked up shit.
joe rogan
Did you talk about it?
tony hinchcliffe
Oh.
I remember the moment that, I'm sorry to interrupt, that we found out that Caitlyn just signed on to that roast.
We are in a writer's room.
Literally people that literally specialize in Making fun of people.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
And when that came in, when the exec, I remember where I was sitting and which direction I was looking when the executive producer came in and goes, we just got Caitlyn Jenner.
You would have thought we all just won the Powerball and that we all had it on one ticket and that it was hundreds of millions of dollars.
Sure enough, the next six hours are literally just slamming a table.
I can't imagine what it would have been like to just be in that hallway and watch through a window at us apes just having the time of our lives.
bert kreischer
That was a great fucking roast, too.
joe rogan
There's something special about those sort of like roasts and roast battles because you're forced to write a completely new joke about a thing that's right there in front of you.
And then you're forced to scramble and come up with good lines for it.
tony hinchcliffe
And on a full roast, instead of a battle, you can make correlations with other people that are on that roast.
So immediately you're like, Caitlin, well this person's a She had a...
Oh, shit.
You're making all these just firing off cylinders.
Plus, Caitlyn, on top of all that, an Olympic hero, has the reality show and the family and the daughters.
bert kreischer
Is her daughter a billionaire?
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
From makeup.
bert kreischer
Her daughter's a fucking billionaire.
Like, I didn't realize, it's so silly, but I knew Kim Kardashian, maybe.
I didn't realize all the Jenners and Kylie Jenner.
So that morning, they're like, hey, here's a little run sheet for facts.
I was like, her daughter's a fucking billionaire?
Like, that's fucking insane.
joe rogan
Pretty insane.
But it's all from, like, cosmetics, right?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's like the richest one of the family.
She's richer than Kim, which is crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
She's a billionaire.
joe rogan
Kim's more famous.
bert kreischer
Kim's way more famous.
That's a beautiful goddamn family.
joe rogan
It's not a bad looking family.
Not a bad looking family at all.
No, Travis Barker's married in.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Travis Barker seems pretty legit.
joe rogan
He's a good dude.
tony hinchcliffe
It's a good looking family now.
We haven't seen Kim and Pete's kid yet.
There's no genetics in the world that are going to cross out whatever Pete Davidson has going on.
joe rogan
Well, whatever he's got to know, that guy's slinging dick like nobody's ever lived.
It's the Warren Beatty of 2022. It's unbelievable.
bert kreischer
There's never been a comedian that has that resume.
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
His resume is...
joe rogan
Off the charts.
bert kreischer
One is Ariana Grande, Kate Beckinsale.
joe rogan
Who?
bert kreischer
What the fuck?
You forget Larry David's daughter.
She's beautiful.
joe rogan
I don't know what that is.
bert kreischer
Trendier son or whatever.
Instagram.
joe rogan
But famous people.
bert kreischer
All famous people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And then Kim Kardashian.
I mean, that just is insane.
joe rogan
Have you seen the shit that Kanye was saying about him?
tony hinchcliffe
My man!
joe rogan
Have you seen all of them?
bert kreischer
I haven't seen all of them.
joe rogan
Pull them up.
bert kreischer
Don't get me started on the absolute genius that is Kanye West.
Have you seen that documentary?
unidentified
This one can't even be aired.
joe rogan
He put that on his Instagram.
The best part about it is after he said it, he writes, okay, last one for tonight, maybe.
Last one for tonight, maybe!
And they took it down.
tony hinchcliffe
He was doing a run of Pete memes that day.
joe rogan
I mean, come on, man.
That shit's hilarious.
But that's actually kind of part of the fun of it all, is that, like, all of a sudden, Kim is hanging out with Pete Davidson, and then Kanye is mad.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's like everybody's like...
Those things, as uncomfortable as they are, are for business, for their business, especially for Kim's business and Pete's business.
Holy shit, is it good.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What a boom.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
The genius is mad at us.
The brains of the operation is mad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
The talent!
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Have you ever worn his sweatshirt?
joe rogan
Kanye's?
bert kreischer
The Kanye hoodie?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
That's amazing.
joe rogan
What is it?
bert kreischer
It's the greatest sweatshirt I've ever worn in my life.
joe rogan
Is it unusual?
bert kreischer
No, he did a Gap collab.
What are you fucking laughing at?
unidentified
No, just the way it shows, like, questioning it.
joe rogan
Why am I... I'm just laughing, I'm not...
bert kreischer
No, he did a Gap collab with the Gap, and he made a sweatshirt that I put on And is my favorite thing I've ever put on in my life.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
Second only to fucking Yeezys.
Yeezys are the most comfortable fucking shoe in the world.
joe rogan
Well, let me see what this sweatshirt looks like.
bert kreischer
It's just a sweatshirt, but you've got to explain.
Let me see it.
He's got the best parts of the sweatshirt on the inside and the outside.
So the outside's the best part of a sweatshirt, right?
Well, he sewed another sweatshirt inside the sweatshirt, inside out, so that you feel the outside on the inside.
And it's heavy.
It's like a fucking thunder blanket.
joe rogan
I would imagine that's thick as fuck.
bert kreischer
It's thick as fuck.
And it's like basically two sweatshirts.
joe rogan
Are those available?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can you buy them or are they hard to get?
The Yeezy Gap hoodie is back in stock.
Yeah, but can I just get one online?
Or do I have to pay extra?
unidentified
You could order it from a special website.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I think like sneaker places.
joe rogan
So is that one there real?
That one you're over right there?
If you click on that?
That's probably the right price.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it's that goat.
joe rogan
So that's the Kanye hoodie, and it's how much?
bert kreischer
100 bucks.
It's so fucking comfy.
joe rogan
I mean, for a Kanye West thing, that seems pretty reasonable.
bert kreischer
I mean, I watched that documentary, Genius.
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen it.
bert kreischer
You have to watch this.
He is a fucking genius.
He is a genius so ahead of his time.
He was making beats for Rockefeller back in the day, and that's what they were using him as, but he wanted to be a rapper.
And man, this documentary is a documentary he shot on himself when he was nobody.
He was walking around with a camera.
tony hinchcliffe
And nobody back then was filming themselves.
bert kreischer
Nobody.
tony hinchcliffe
And everywhere they go, they're like, well, he brought cameras?
Everybody's all weirded out.
But it ends up all coming together.
bert kreischer
It all comes together.
And he's predicting his future because he knows how good he is.
And then you watch him.
He idolizes Jay-Z. And you watch him ask Jay-Z, can I be on this track and sing on this track?
And Jay-Z's like, well, yeah, let me hear what you got.
And Kanye bangs out the best fucking 16 bars.
And then Jay-Z's like, shit, man.
A quiet man doesn't eat.
And Kanye's like, yeah.
And then what's even crazier, all this documentary footage...
And he gets in a car accident, breaks his jaw, right?
Writes Through the Wire, which is chilling how great that fucking song is, about getting his jaw broken, his journey, and he uses the shit he's had in this documentary, he uses it to make the music video that goes on MTV, and what he's doing, he's taking this Through the Wire song, and he's playing it for Jay-Z. He's playing it for fucking Pharrell.
He's playing it for them, and they're all going, dude, This is going to be the biggest song of the year.
And it's all, this is all documentary footage.
joe rogan
Play some of that.
unidentified
So is he rapping through wired jaws?
Wow.
joe rogan
It sounds like it, too.
bert kreischer
And by the way, in the documentary, they show the time that he gets his...
They show all of this.
The extended...
Of everything about C is all in this documentary.
unidentified
Wow.
Shout out what's going on.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah.
I drink a hoose for breakfast and in show for dessert.
Somebody order pancakes, I just sip the scissor.
Oh.
Wow.
See, look, he's playing this song for Pharrell, and Pharrell's like, "I don't know what to say, man." Look at him.
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to lifeline And he was on the podcast and Jamie missed it because he had COVID. Are you serious?
Yep, Jamie caught COVID. He was out with a bunch of girls of ill repute at some bar.
tony hinchcliffe
The only thing sadder than that is somebody who I've had crazy arguments with Kanye about, who was always on the wrong side of history, Red Band, got to sit in for you, the biggest Kanye fan, and literally I'm like, this is a double homicide.
This is a tragedy.
camille vasquez
Things happen.
joe rogan
That was so tragic.
bert kreischer
Wait, was Red Band Red Band or was he, did he, old school Red Band?
joe rogan
No, he did a great job.
bert kreischer
Or was he doing buttholes and stuff?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
bert kreischer
I miss old school Red Band.
I really do.
joe rogan
But there was a thing where I had to tell him, I go, you can't interrupt him.
I go, we gotta work this out.
You gotta deal, like, you gotta understand the kind of mind you're dealing with.
Like, his mind is like a locomotive, man.
You're not gonna get, if you get in the way of it, you're just gonna get run over.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
unidentified
I might have interrupted.
joe rogan
I might have jumped in.
tony hinchcliffe
Like, hey, I can help you here.
unidentified
Like, I can help explain this.
joe rogan
You think you would have fucked it up?
unidentified
No, no.
joe rogan
But I don't know.
unidentified
I might have.
joe rogan
He probably would have been like, who the fuck is talking to me right now?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
I don't remember signing up for your podcast.
joe rogan
Say that again, what?
unidentified
He would have saw my shoes and been like, I get it.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I don't think he's impressed that somebody bought his shoes.
A lot of people buy shoes.
unidentified
I wouldn't have wore those shoes.
joe rogan
I would have wore cool shoes.
unidentified
I would have liked Joe.
joe rogan
Oh, sneaker talk.
bert kreischer
He's so groundbreaking on so many levels.
unidentified
Are these okay?
joe rogan
Jamie has to tell me if my shoes are okay.
These are APLs.
Are they okay?
tony hinchcliffe
Just okay.
joe rogan
Jamie's always making fun.
These are fucking great to work out in.
tony hinchcliffe
I bet they are.
joe rogan
They're fucking great to work out in.
tony hinchcliffe
They better be comfortable looking like that.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying?
They look good.
They're plain black shoes.
jamie vernon
What pants would you wear those with outside of shorts?
joe rogan
We're shorts, bitch.
What the fuck are you talking about?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I'm athletic.
unidentified
Good luck.
joe rogan
Good luck!
What luck am I getting from different sneakers?
unidentified
Well, you're never gonna make the GQ fashion list with that.
joe rogan
Bro, I got news for you.
I wasn't in contention anyway.
You never know.
Come on, man.
I dress like a slob.
tony hinchcliffe
But you could.
joe rogan
Well, I have tailored suits.
I have some slick shit from David August that fits my chimp frame.
It's like all tailored right with thick-ass neck and shit.
It's nice.
bert kreischer
Does your wife buy you shoes?
joe rogan
No, I got the dress shoes I got.
Oh, she's bought me sneakers before.
Everybody shamed me.
So she bought me a bunch of very nice...
She bought me some Jordans, sweet Jordans.
bert kreischer
I can't just picture you in Jordans!
joe rogan
They're great.
I wear them all the time.
I don't not like good stuff.
It's just I don't generally dress to look good.
I just dress for whatever the fuck I feel like wearing.
Like, here, I got an old-school jujitsu shirt on.
I like it.
I saw it, it was in my closet, I go, I'll wear that.
I like that shirt.
That's all.
I do whatever the fuck I want, Burt.
bert kreischer
No, I'm very specific about my clothing.
I only wear one type of shirt, really.
joe rogan
But I've worn suits on stage before.
Like, when Chappelle and I were doing arenas, I was wearing suits sometimes.
It's fun.
It's fun to, like, fucking put a tie on.
bert kreischer
Maybe I'll try that.
I'll just wear suit bottoms.
joe rogan
Just bottoms?
bert kreischer
Yeah, no.
unidentified
Just no.
joe rogan
No, no.
They won't be just looking at your upper body naked.
bert kreischer
Kind of painted myself in the corner.
joe rogan
I was wondering whether or not you're going to take your shirt off last night at the Vulcan.
bert kreischer
Of course.
tony hinchcliffe
So was I, yeah.
unidentified
We had a debate.
No, 100%.
bert kreischer
I always take it off every time.
I'm very comfortable.
joe rogan
Every time.
Even at the store?
bert kreischer
Yeah, no, I don't give a fuck about anyone anymore.
joe rogan
What happened?
bert kreischer
Because the OR, you used to avoid it in the OR. I know, I know, but I was avoiding it a lot of times for people.
Yeah, criticize you.
Someone said something to me, and I was like, I was trying to be respectful.
joe rogan
Was it Ari Shaffir?
bert kreischer
Oh no, Ari takes his shirt off on stage now, are you kidding me?
joe rogan
Does he?
bert kreischer
Yeah, Ari performs shirtless sometimes.
tony hinchcliffe
Ari performs pantless sometimes.
The comedies.
bert kreischer
I'm very comfortable with my shirt off.
I feel weird with a shirt on doing stand-up now.
Anybody?
joe rogan
Don't be scared, bitch.
Why are you scared of weed and you're not scared of getting hammered?
bert kreischer
I'm not scared of weed.
I've been smoking a lot of weed lately.
joe rogan
I noticed.
I noticed last night.
Last night, Bert got to the point where he was trying to say to me, we're going to do stem cells tomorrow, right?
And I was like, I have no fucking idea what those words are that come out of your mouth.
bert kreischer
That's what I called it.
I stood up.
You saw it.
I went, that's it.
I'm out.
It was good seeing you guys.
Take care, everybody.
Joe, we'll see you tomorrow morning.
joe rogan
It was a fun hang, though.
Fun show, too.
Very fun show.
I love that place.
The Vulcan's such a fun place.
tony hinchcliffe
That was wild.
I brought up Bert last night, and I shook his hand, and he pointed over my shoulder, and I turned around, and four guys that had no idea that Bert was going to be there already had their shirts off.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
I've never seen anything like that.
joe rogan
So you're just saying Bird's name and they already had this shirt off at the moment you said his name?
tony hinchcliffe
It could have only been, what, 10 seconds?
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
An entire table of guys.
bert kreischer
That happens a lot.
That's why I named, I'm doing Red Rocks again, September 9th or something.
joe rogan
Nice.
bert kreischer
And I call it Tops Off at Red Rocks because everyone will be topless.
joe rogan
Oh, no!
bert kreischer
It tops off at Red Rocks.
I went to go do the promo.
I was telling this to Tom.
I don't know.
I enjoy making promos.
I enjoy trying to sell tickets.
I don't have a problem with it.
So I go to Red Rocks.
I loop it into my touring.
I go, we'll go to the space, get access to the venue, and special access so we can use the stage, and then we'll shoot some promos.
Whoa.
joe rogan
Tops off?
bert kreischer
So you shoot a lot of content like this that you can post in your stories throughout the lead-up to sell tickets, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Just simple stuff.
But we get there and I forget, you know, I'm also, you know, that I've done this venue and so everyone there knows me.
So we just ended up getting, everyone came up to take a picture and then people were like, hey man, you want to smoke a joint with me?
I was like, yeah.
And they're like, do you want to What was that thing on your arm?
That's when I hurt my arm.
joe rogan
Oh, I thought it was like lights or something.
bert kreischer
It was.
I had it all fiber-rock dicked out.
joe rogan
Oh, no shit.
bert kreischer
So it would be a big show.
It was a big show.
I'm shirtless.
It's Red Rocks.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
bert kreischer
September 13th, I'm at Red Rocks, everybody.
joe rogan
September 13th, 2022. So you set it up now.
bert kreischer
I shoot a bunch of these.
I'll shoot 10 of them.
And then leading up to the date, I just release them as we go.
joe rogan
So who does these for you?
bert kreischer
Me and my team.
My buddy John Manns.
And my cousin Andrew edits.
joe rogan
I severely dislike the term team.
bert kreischer
I don't know what to call them then.
The people I pay.
joe rogan
My team.
bert kreischer
The people that are on my pay list.
But these guys wanted to kill a beer with me.
They're from Boston.
So we killed a beer.
joe rogan
Those guys look like they want to kill a beer with you.
bert kreischer
Oh yeah, this poor guy on the right did not want to take his shirt off.
He's like, no bro, no bro.
And I go, it's tops off at Red Rocks, buddy.
And he goes, no one's going to see this, right?
I'm like, now we're talking about him on Rogan.
joe rogan
Sorry, pal.
bert kreischer
But yeah, so the shirt's come off like crazy now.
I've had some really bizarre experiences in stand-up that I feel are unique to me.
Like I was in England one time, over in Britain, whatever.
And I started...
unidentified
UK? Yeah, the UK. Whatever the fuck it's called.
bert kreischer
And I started the machine story.
And they cheer, you know, Russia Mafia.
And I go, I went to Florida State and I have fucking 2,000 people reciting the story with me from beginning to end.
joe rogan
They know the whole story.
bert kreischer
Reciting the fucking story.
joe rogan
And they want to hear the story.
And it's a 15 minute story.
bert kreischer
13, but yeah.
unidentified
I can tell at 11. I've done it in 11. Would you feel rushed when you do it?
bert kreischer
No, no, I just chop parts out.
unidentified
Ah.
bert kreischer
I can make it.
But I do it every show, and they were singing it along with me, and then by the end, it was perfect.
I get to the end, and he comes up close.
I can smell a cigarette.
I'm like, I'm not in trouble.
And he goes, no.
And then the whole place just goes, fuck that bitch.
This is Russia.
And I'm like, I was crying.
I was like, this is the craziest experience I've ever fucking had.
joe rogan
I remember when you first told that story on this podcast.
And I was like, dude, you need to tell that on stage.
bert kreischer
I said no.
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
I said no.
joe rogan
It's literally your fucking nickname now.
bert kreischer
I said no.
joe rogan
Yes, I remember.
bert kreischer
Do you know the whole story of that, right?
So I was in Columbus that next weekend.
You said on that podcast...
If you're going to Burt's show, you make him tell that story.
From this day forward, he is to be known only as The Machine.
So I go to Columbus, I do my set, and this is Desquad Ohio days, right?
So I do my set, and they're going, The Machine!
And I was like, guys, I'm not going to do it.
And this guy in the front row goes, hey man, we know it's not going to be good.
But Joe said, you've got to tell it to make it good.
We know that.
Don't worry.
We'll fake laugh, right guys?
unidentified
And everyone's like...
bert kreischer
Everyone's like, yeah, yeah, we'll fake laugh.
joe rogan
They're going to fake laugh for you!
bert kreischer
I was like, are you fucking serious?
And I told it.
It was probably 20 minutes long.
I told it.
And they're like, hey man, tell it again tomorrow.
joe rogan
Wow, they coached you through it.
bert kreischer
Those Death Squad Ohio guys were fucking really ride or die motherfuckers.
They'd come to all of your shows.
They'd come to all your shows.
They'd hang out with you at the end.
I mean, I had lunch with them.
Those guys were fucking awesome dudes.
tony hinchcliffe
100%.
They still check in all the time.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
And...
Yeah, it's wild.
I remember thinking how crazy it was, you know, whatever, 12 years ago that...
I remember it was the first person who got...
He had us all sign his leg.
You know who I'm talking about?
And he got a tattoo of all the signatures over the thing.
So every time he would see one of us...
And by the time he got to me, everybody's name was already there.
But, like, I did it, and then it was part of it.
And then I saw him a couple years later, and boom, there it is with more.
And then...
It's just crazy.
Ohio has a real knack for that.
They have good senses of humor there.
bert kreischer
It was a special time in podcasting.
joe rogan
Right, because it was early.
bert kreischer
And it was a secret.
Not everyone knew about it.
What year was this?
joe rogan
10 or 11?
bert kreischer
I was on Travel Channel.
unidentified
It was 2009. 2009, 2010. So this is the very earliest days of the podcast.
bert kreischer
Very earliest.
This is my favorite stories of that.
Before I even did the podcast, I was a fan of the podcast.
I listened to the podcast.
I was on the Travel Channel.
I listened to it on my iPad when I slept.
And I felt like I knew everyone.
This is how cool those times were.
I remember putting out on Twitter, hey, I'm in Scotland.
If any Death Squad fans want to get a drink, I'm buying.
It's like 10 dudes show up, I just get wrapped, I walk over to a bar, and I go, I said, I just go, who's the latest JRE? And they're like, hold on.
I said, what?
And they go, you don't know, it's blue cheese or go fuck your mother?
And I went, what?
And they're like, got on their phone, they pull it, hey Joey, when you get wings, do you get ranch?
He goes, Listen, cocksucker, it's either blue cheese or go fuck your mother!
It was the first time I heard that, and we were crying laughing.
Me and these ten fans in Scotland were crying laughing.
They're like, Bobcat was on last week.
Did you listen to that one?
I go, I haven't caught up.
We were all into the same shit.
Whenever you had a good guest on, we were all starting our own podcasts, and so they were following us, and they'd be like, hey, tell us what happened with that one guy.
joe rogan
I was telling people to start a podcast even when it wasn't even profitable.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was trying to get everybody to do it.
bert kreischer
You sold this harder than anything.
If it wasn't for Segura, because I bought all the equipment, you were like, get the equipment, get the stuff, just start it, just start it.
And I recorded like two or three, and they were just me by myself, and they sucked.
One, I was drunk, and I was like, ooh, they're never doing this again.
And, uh...
I had all the equipment, and Seguro walked into my...
It was Easter Sunday.
Seguro walked into my man cave, and he hit record, and he gave a mic to Joey, and he gave a mic to my dad, and he took a mic, and he goes, this is your first podcast.
And we recorded it, and it was fucking...
I mean, it was Joey Diaz being old-school Joey Diaz, my dad meeting Joey for the first time, and them becoming close friends.
I mean, they've always been close.
Joey's been to all our Christmases, all our Easter's before we moved.
And that was my first podcast.
And I looked at the numbers, and the numbers were like 50,000 downloads the first day.
And I was like, what the fuck?
And then from that, you go...
Hey, I'm going to be in Ohio.
I'm going to be in Louisville.
And then all of a sudden, people showed up.
And this was back when you could sit in the lobby and just talk with people.
And they'd be like, hey, tell us about this.
Tell us about that.
It was so much.
I had my daughters do my intro.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I had my daughters do my intro.
joe rogan
When they were really young then.
bert kreischer
I don't even...
Oh, yeah, maybe they still do it.
But it's...
Isla was in a play, and she had a big speech impediment.
She goes...
unidentified
Thank you, thank you, gentlemen and Joims!
bert kreischer
And it was like, and yeah, it's great.
Those were the fun fucking days.
joe rogan
They're fun now too, buddy.
bert kreischer
Oh yeah, what am I saying?
It's a lot more fun now.
joe rogan
Look at that.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Burt Kreischer.
Look how young you look.
bert kreischer
I know.
joe rogan
You don't even look like you.
Who the fuck are you?
You're a slimmed-down Burt Kreischer.
I forgot how skinny you were, bro.
bert kreischer
I know.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at Red Band.
bert kreischer
Tom made me fat.
joe rogan
Red Band looked great.
That was the weight loss Red Band.
Red Band, at one point in time, exhibited extraordinary discipline.
And wound up losing like 70 pounds.
I remember we'd go to the gym, that motherfucker would be on the treadmill or on the elliptical machine for a long ass time losing weight.
We'd go to the hotel gym, we were on the road, and Red Band was fucking putting it in.
I'm like, dude, I am fucking proud of you.
He lost like, I'm not kidding man, he lost like 70 or 80 pounds.
And his girl left him, that's what happened.
His girl left him, and he was like really broken up about it, and he's like, you know what, I'm just gonna get in shape.
And he fucking did it, and he got slim, and he had pictures of him on his Instagram, Of him holding his pants, like that, like there.
Look how skinny he was, dude.
Look at him.
Look at the flip phone.
bert kreischer
Look at how cute he is.
joe rogan
So that was what he was.
245 pounds to 163 pounds.
And look how good he looked.
Kid was a stud.
Look at him up in the upper right-hand corner, holding his pants.
We need to get him to do that again.
We need him and David Lucas in a challenge.
It's a good challenge.
It's a winner.
The winner gets $100,000.
bert kreischer
I love this challenge.
joe rogan
We'll do it on this podcast.
bert kreischer
It's a great challenge.
joe rogan
That's it.
The winner gets $100,000.
Cash.
bert kreischer
Oh, that's me and my fattest.
tony hinchcliffe
Those two will get in cahoots with one another and be like, hey, let's split the money.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
We're going to bring in a doctor and we're going to, like, one person loses five pounds, the other person loses three.
No.
It's going to be like one of those things, like, it doesn't count until you're below 60 pounds.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
Once you get below 60 pounds, 60 pounds lighter, and to give them four months to do it.
You have four months, starting now.
That's reasonable.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That can be done.
With diet and exercise, you can lose that.
I've seen a guy recently online that was one of those inspirational guys with the quotes over it and shit, and he was talking about how four months ago he was 60 pounds heavier, and they showed a picture of him before, and you're like, whoa, imagine.
A lot of my friends I don't see for four months.
Imagine not seeing a friend for four months, and then coming back four months later like, what the fuck, dude?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You look amazing!
How did you do that?
bert kreischer
It's a fun feeling.
You've never really had that.
I've had the feeling where you lose the weight and people go, hey, you look great!
It feels so good.
And then when you're fat, you get a lot of people going, I'm worried about you.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're worried about you.
bert kreischer
You know what I'm saying.
We talk about it.
tony hinchcliffe
We talk about it all the time.
bert kreischer
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
I remember very clearly the moment I knew the podcast was big.
The moment I knew something was going on.
Very clearly.
Because I was on stage in Chicago.
At the Chicago Theater.
So it was a sold out Chicago Theater.
bert kreischer
3,500 seats.
joe rogan
And I go, so the other day I go, how many of you guys listen to the podcast?
unidentified
And it was, yeah!
joe rogan
And I went, oh shit.
Shit!
I thought it was going to be a small percentage.
I never pay attention to numbers.
I don't look at the numbers now.
When my friends do a podcast with me and they go, hey, how's it performing?
I'm like, I don't know.
It's out there.
Just keep moving, bro.
bert kreischer
I remember one time Jamie going, hey man, did you sell a lot of books?
And I said, no.
And he goes, well your numbers were like through the fucking roof.
And I went, oh wow.
But I don't look at my numbers either.
joe rogan
You can't.
It's just, if you do, it's like likes on a photo or something like that.
Like you'll get obsessed with, people get obsessed with numbers.
If one guy's selling out 3,000 tickets, but the other guy's selling out 5,000, the 3,000 guy's jealous of the 5,000 guy.
And meanwhile, you just sold out a fucking theater.
bert kreischer
Dude, I told Chris DiStefano the other day, 1,200 seats is the mountaintop.
You can go out and do theaters at 1,200 seats, 1,500 seats.
That's the dream everyone ever had.
It's better than anything you could ever wish for.
joe rogan
Tony and I did the stand-up live in Phoenix, which is, by the way, he sold out every show.
So that's like 600 seats per show.
And when I did that, I was doing that place.
I was like, you know what?
This might be perfect.
This might be the perfect size to experience comedy.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
That's a great venue.
joe rogan
It's a great venue, because it's low ceilings.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's a great sound system, and it's a great size stage, and it's very intimate.
And I'm like, this might be the fucking sweet spot.
Like, there's something to be said for a 200-seat room.
Fucking awesome, right?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But man, when you're rocking in that place, the laughter was thunderous.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's low ceiling.
They did a great job.
tony hinchcliffe
Slight elevation as it goes back, but nothing too crazy.
Because when you get in some theaters, when you hit that second tier and stuff, there is a disconnect.
It doesn't feel like they're right there.
It feels like they're up there.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to have, like when you're doing big places, you have to have distinct punchlines.
The people that really suffer are the ranters.
Their pace requires that they say this, and then they say that.
And there's a punchline here, there's a punchline there, and there's another punchline!
If you do that in an arena, you will run the risk of people not being able to hear what you're saying.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
We were talking about the ride over.
Arenas take a different pacing.
joe rogan
It's a different pacing.
bert kreischer
So does Red Rocks, so does the Greek.
joe rogan
Outside places.
bert kreischer
Outside places.
I love outside places.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's something cool about the night air and shit.
Outside and sky.
bert kreischer
When I did, I am very fortunate to have done that Hot Summer Nights thing.
It was the funnest time of my fucking life.
Outdoors, during COVID, every night grilling out.
Every night, they're watching them put up the stage, break down the stage.
It was like being in a rock band.
It was so much fun.
And the shows were just, everything was different.
A thunderstorm behind you in the night.
Sunsets.
Fucking, my favorite thing about those is sunsets.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
Like before the show starts, like watch the sun drop and then the show starts right afterwards.
bert kreischer
Everyone's watching the sun drop.
joe rogan
And they know that when the sun drops, that's when the show starts.
bert kreischer
I gotta have you come out to a hot summer night show just to see one.
I'll come out.
Whatever it is.
Fully Loaded.
Fully Loaded, man.
I'll come out.
And then the fucking energy of people being outdoors, it's like a fun, tailgate-y, like people show up with their trucks filled with ice and coolers and water and make a jacuzzi out of the thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you bring that kind of energy everywhere anyway.
It's not like they would do that if Jim Gaffigan was playing there.
But I mean, you bring a party atmosphere.
bert kreischer
I like a party.
joe rogan
Not that Jim Gaffigan doesn't have a very rabid fan base.
He certainly does, and he's a great comic.
That's all I'm saying.
What I'm saying is your fans are drunks.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
They like to fucking get down.
joe rogan
They're coming to party.
bert kreischer
Dude, we did Colorado, somewhere in Grand Junction, Colorado, and did the other day on my tour, did an amphitheater.
It's amazing.
First of all, it's amazing.
It's amazing.
But I'll be very honest.
I am jealous of those people because I like...
I want to do what they're doing.
joe rogan
Have fun in the audience.
bert kreischer
Like Red Rocks.
So I'm sitting in the fucking pool.
I'm doing Red Rocks on the 13th.
My phone starts blowing up.
They're like, Wilco's playing the 14th.
Dude, I'm the biggest fucking Wilco fan.
joe rogan
What's Wilco?
bert kreischer
Jeff Tweedy.
It's a band out of Chicago.
They're like alternative country kind of.
They're fucking amazing.
He is amazing.
joe rogan
How am I just hearing about this now?
bert kreischer
Dude, I... I literally found out.
My hands were shaking.
I texted everyone.
When I do Red Rocks, I bring everyone, like friends and friends and family.
That's a Tom Sawyer trait.
I bring people.
I rent out a whole set of cabins.
I get everyone in a cabin.
Everyone comes to my show.
And then the last time we stayed a day and went to Jimmy Buffett's show.
Got to go backstage, meet Jimmy Buffett, gave him a pair of my flip-flops.
Like, it was awesome.
It was awesome.
And let me tell you something, I geeked out over Jimmy Buffet.
I made him a little uncomfortable.
I was like, you have no idea what you mean to me?
I literally, Jimmy Buffet is like a hero to me.
joe rogan
You're from Florida.
bert kreischer
I'm from Florida.
I gave him a month worth of Bert in five minutes.
And you could tell he was overwhelmed.
He was like, well, I gotta go on stage.
joe rogan
Just before the show?
bert kreischer
Right before the show.
joe rogan
Oh my god, how dare you?
bert kreischer
So then I find out Wilco's playing, and I fucking go, I fucking text everyone.
I'm like, we're partying with Wilco the night after.
We're going to see Wilco.
And I told Tom yesterday, he was like, because he knows how much I like Wilco.
I texted him, he was like, dude, I go, I will creep Jeff Tweedy out.
I will make him go.
I wish this guy had never gone backstage.
I can't believe he's crying.
He's like, that's how much Wilco means to me.
Like, they're fucking awesome.
joe rogan
I'm looking up Wilco on Apple right now because I'm gonna get...
It says nothing.
tony hinchcliffe
I once made a fool out of myself in front of my favorite musician, Roger Waters, the creator and bassist of Pink Floyd.
joe rogan
These are the guys?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Wilco.
Wilco loves you, baby.
Is that a song?
joe rogan
Wilco loves you?
bert kreischer
Wilco, it's on the album Wilco, and the song is called Wilco.
joe rogan
Ooh, I love that.
bert kreischer
Let me tell you this, Joe.
I'm in Crow territory, okay?
Crow?
joe rogan
Native Americans.
bert kreischer
Native American territory up in Montana, South Dakota.
We're riding motorcycles, and we just hunted buffalo.
We take a helicopter back to the top of a mountain, get on our motorcycles, sun setting, okay?
I get on my motorcycle, I throw in Wilco, Wilco, the song Wilco on the album Wilco.
joe rogan
Let me hear some of this shit.
bert kreischer
Play that song.
joe rogan
I want to hear some of this shit.
bert kreischer
Wilco, Wilco.
joe rogan
Let Spotify work out the legal details of this.
Leave it.
tony hinchcliffe
They got Wilco.
joe rogan
Do they have Wilco?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
But is it okay if it plays on this?
tony hinchcliffe
I don't know.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I'm sure it's okay.
tony hinchcliffe
Is there someone you can call?
joe rogan
We could only help.
Yeah, I could.
I could call him up.
unidentified
2009?
joe rogan
How am I not known about this?
bert kreischer
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
I love this kind of music.
This is just scratching.
bert kreischer
Listen to this.
Here we go.
unidentified
Are you under the impression?
This isn't your life.
Do you dabble in depression?
Is someone twisting and not feeling bad?
I like it.
Now picture this, Joe.
bert kreischer
I'm on a motorcycle.
I'm by myself on top of the mountain in Crow territory.
I'm listening to this.
I'm getting emotional.
Oh my God.
A pack of wild horses runs up next to me.
unidentified
In a open field and keeps pace with me.
bert kreischer
And I'm running on a motorcycle at fucking 30 miles an hour with horses.
And I'm listening to this and I start crying.
And I'm like, fucking...
joe rogan
You live in a movie.
You're a magic person.
bert kreischer
It was fucking amazing.
Dude, I listened to this one album that whole year I did Travel Channel.
Oh, oh, oh.
joe rogan
I didn't know you were in a country.
bert kreischer
It's alternative country.
joe rogan
You're into some kind of country?
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like Hank 3 a lot.
joe rogan
Hank 3's great.
bert kreischer
I love your boy.
unidentified
Sturgill.
bert kreischer
Sturgill.
unidentified
I love Sturgill.
bert kreischer
That's my boy.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What about, do you know Whiskey Myers?
bert kreischer
No.
Just started listening to Marcus King.
joe rogan
I just started getting into Whiskey Myers.
bert kreischer
I'm downloading it now.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Listen to Bury My Bones.
They've got some fucking killer songs, man.
This dude, it's like...
I mean, I'm not good at describing the genres of music, but listen to this.
Oh, this is the music video?
But yeah, give me a little bit before that.
bert kreischer
Oh.
unidentified
I'm gonna like this guy I'm gonna like this guy I'm gonna like
this guy Yeah.
Tell her that I love her, but my soul's gone home.
And take my vessel to Anderson County.
Clive real slow and take the long way home.
Tell my kin to pick up a shovel.
Let's do that sugar sand and bury my bones.
Won't you bury my bones beneath these pines?
And it comes time for you to bury my bones.
joe rogan
All the shit's like this.
bert kreischer
I like this a lot.
joe rogan
Very good.
All the shit's like this.
tony hinchcliffe
We have a strong green room playlist.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we bring one of those big JBL boombox speakers, those big giant bitches, and we have a strong playlist.
And this is what I generally like to start with, because it's like, fuck!
We're getting into this.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a half hour before showtime.
We're pacing.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
We're just firing up.
We hear the crowd out there.
It's crazy.
And there's one shot.
ELO, Slowdown.
tony hinchcliffe
This is our- Showdown.
joe rogan
Showdown.
Excuse me.
Slowdown.
That's how drunk and high I am.
ELO, Showdown.
This is what we play right before we go on stage.
So this is like, the show's about to start in five.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
We start dancing.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you got marijuana smoke, you got whiskey on ice, and we're about to go do the greatest thing in all of entertainment.
tony hinchcliffe
Madison Square Garden, Boston Garden, all these places.
joe rogan
This is our song, man.
We've been doing this one, fuck man, since last year, because we were listening to this when I got COVID. Yep.
tony hinchcliffe
Florida.
bert kreischer
So you set up a whole vibe in your green room?
joe rogan
Yeah, set up a vibe.
And Chappelle sets up a vibe better than anybody.
He changes all the lights to red.
Really?
Yeah, his dressing room is all red lights everywhere.
It's dope as fuck.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
The first guy I ever saw to do that was Tommy Lee.
I went backstage for Tommy Lee's show.
Tommy Lee the drummer?
Tommy Lee the drummer.
A good buddy of mine, shout out to John Rollo.
My good buddy John Rollo was Tommy Lee's bodyguard.
And Tommy Lee had decided that he wants to fight Chris Rock, excuse me, Kid Rock.
Poor Chris, I'm sorry.
tony hinchcliffe
Here we go again.
bert kreischer
What did he say about his wife?
joe rogan
I don't know what happened, but, you know, Kid Rock used to be married to Pam Anderson, and Tommy Lee was married to Pam Anderson, too, and, you know, whatever.
So anyway, I meet Tommy Lee.
Tommy's like, I want to fuck up Kid Rock.
I was like, oh my god, this is...
This is a disaster.
What do you want to do?
You want to fight him?
He's like, yeah.
I think he wanted to fight him in the UFC. And I'm like, how much training have you had?
He's like, almost none.
And so it's like, oof.
I got my money on the redneck.
I wanted to talk him out of it.
I'm like, you don't want to fight Kid Rock.
Kid Rock seems like a wild dude from Detroit.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, Tommy Lee's whole green room is set up with, like, he's got, like, things on the walls.
He's got a vibe going on.
I don't remember if it was incense, but he's got cool lighting.
It was like, you walk in, you're like, damn, this died.
And John was saying, yeah, he just, like, instead of going somewhere where he's just going to get harassed, he just has all his friends come over and they have a party in his green room.
So he turns his green room into a party.
So he's got these, you know, these places that we do, we have these giant ass green rooms.
So he has this giant ass green room that he has like music, he has turntables and shit.
They're playing music, they're having fun.
It's like he turned his thing into a nightclub.
bert kreischer
That's fucking, I have no vibe.
tony hinchcliffe
Really?
bert kreischer
I have no vibe.
joe rogan
Don't you like music?
bert kreischer
I do, but I'm kind of weird, I think.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, you're definitely weird.
bert kreischer
I like to work out before...
I still do it like we did The Road, like at clubs.
I work out right before the show.
I try to work out.
I take a nap.
And then I shower and...
joe rogan
Yeah, we do all that too.
bert kreischer
But I don't listen to any music.
I don't know why I don't.
joe rogan
Well...
tony hinchcliffe
Once you start, it gets more and more fun.
bert kreischer
I don't do any booze or drugs before a show.
Like, I can't do anything.
joe rogan
That's good.
That's smart.
We do it all.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
bert kreischer
God.
I would love to do that.
tony hinchcliffe
We're doing key bumps of Ivermectin out there.
unidentified
Stupid.
bert kreischer
I would love to have a vibe.
joe rogan
It's fun to have a vibe, Bert.
It's fun.
And when we start dancing around, and also we start talking to each other.
And we start telling stories and getting excited.
And when you do that, it's almost like you're warming up.
Which is bad when you've got a non-comic in the room who gets clunky.
So, like, when Tony and I are riffing, like, I'll be riffing with Tony, or Tony in the middle of something, and some non-comic friend of his will just dive in with some...
tony hinchcliffe
Wait, why is he my friend?
joe rogan
It's always his friends.
They're always back there in that goddamn green room of Vulcan.
They're just pissing all over the punch bowl.
They pull their hogs out and just ruin the whole party.
tony hinchcliffe
That is a bunch of baloney.
unidentified
Those are David Lucas' friends.
joe rogan
I don't know whose friends are, but it does happen occasionally.
Someone will get in there, and you're in the middle of getting ready to do a show, and we're like, you know, we've got a thing.
We've been doing this for a long time.
We've got a rhythm, you know?
And you get warmed up, and you get loose.
And I know that if Tony is on a rant, like if he hits a subject, he's like, hey, wait a minute.
And then I know some shit's coming.
I get out of the fucking way!
But these casuals don't know how to get out of the fucking way, and they go diving in.
tony hinchcliffe
I always do a hard reset if someone gives me a premise that I can do something about, you know what I mean?
So I'm like, oh, so, you know, you say that Susan Smith killed two of her kids or whatever it was last night.
Someone else is like, yeah, she seriously killed her.
They give an actual answer.
It's like, oh, no.
joe rogan
They cock-blocked.
They cock-blocked.
I've had to tell the guys that he knows, shut the fuck up.
Go let him rant.
Let him rant.
bert kreischer
Who are you hanging out with?
tony hinchcliffe
Cockblockers.
unidentified
This is not true.
joe rogan
Comedy cockblockers.
unidentified
No.
bert kreischer
I've brought a couple of those.
I've brought a couple of those into a green room.
Do I get to talk?
joe rogan
Do I get to talk now?
Tony's like two minutes from going on stage.
He's trying to say something funny.
This guy's just like cock blocking.
I'm just jolting.
It's all flustered.
He's got to leave the room and go on stage.
tony hinchcliffe
This is not true.
I get all my moron friends out of the green room before he shows up.
joe rogan
Not always.
Not in the early days.
It took a while.
bert kreischer
There's a conversation you have with someone before they meet Joe.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
bert kreischer
And I didn't do it with my parents tonight, today.
I was like, I'm gonna let my parents be my parents.
I was gonna say like, I don't know, I'm just terrified of what my dad might say to you.
joe rogan
That was great!
bert kreischer
Your dad was great!
They were great.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, because you gave him a little speech.
bert kreischer
I didn't give him a speech.
I actually didn't.
What speech would you...
A lot of times if I bring people to the green room, I go, hey, you don't have to talk, so don't talk.
Like, don't feel the need to talk.
Joe talks.
I talk.
We're comedians.
We've known each other.
Don't feel like you have to jump in.
And I've had people jump in before and you're like, oh, motherfucker.
joe rogan
The problem is it's in a green room.
It seems like we're just talking, but we're also warming up.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, we're having fun together.
We're warming up.
It's not like, you know, we all went out to dinner.
Of course, everybody should talk.
But it's not simply a conversation when you're in the green room right before a show.
It's a warm-up time.
And when you have casuals in the green room, it fucks things up.
Because, like, you know, someone will be in the middle of something, and some guy will be talking over them.
You're like, Jesus Christ.
Tony Woods had to tell the guy to shut the fuck up.
We were in the fucking same thing at Vulcan, and there was some young guy, and, you know, Tony was talking, and this guy wanted to talk over Tony Woods, who's like one of the greatest storytellers of all time.
bert kreischer
Ever.
joe rogan
Of all time.
bert kreischer
Of all time.
joe rogan
And so Tony's in the middle of this amazing story with this giant smile on his face, and this dude's just...
And he finally has to go, hey man, will you shut the fuck up?
Did you hear me talking?
Like, what are you doing?
I'm like, you gotta get him out, man.
You gotta get these guys out.
Some guys are cool, and they can hang, and they understand, and they come back there, and a lot of young guys, like Hans Kim is the master at it.
He can be around like Ron White, he never gets in the way, and he's always been like that, from the jump.
Because he's a very intelligent, respectful guy.
But some dudes, they're just clunky.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, they all want to shoot their shot sometimes.
joe rogan
Yeah, they also think they can get tight with you.
They can get in with you.
We were talking about this before.
There's a certain style of comic that doesn't really want to become undeniable.
What they want to do is they want to just get in somehow.
And they think that if they get in, you'll fucking lift them up and carry them along.
And it's not how it works.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not how it works.
And those guys are a fucking dead weight.
And they come in, and they think that somehow or another that the business is all about who you know, rather than you know these people because you're talented and they love you.
And you're fun to be around.
You're a great comic.
And that's why they know you and like you.
It's not just they know you.
And if you get in there, all of a sudden you'll be in.
You know, hey, why don't you take me with you on the road?
What are you talking about?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I don't even know you.
Like, this is crazy talk.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
Why would you take a complete stranger when you work in an industry where you know so many different levels?
joe rogan
Well, he knows what, you know, someone will say that to you and like, bro, you know who I'm traveling with.
Like, you can't, like, you're barely getting going in comedy and you're asking to go on the road with us.
That's insane.
But I had someone do it recently.
I'm like...
Like, this is an insane question.
Like, you should be getting paid professionally somewhere else first.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
Before you ask to go do a fucking arena.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
And even, like, Hans, who just got that role, had to kill, what, 200 times in a row?
joe rogan
Yeah, he killed a lot.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
He killed a lot, but he also, he killed and he's fun.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
Fun to be around, big smile on his face.
bert kreischer
He's a sweet guy.
joe rogan
Sweet guy.
But he's also super smart, too.
Like, when you talk to him about things, he's got an interesting take on stuff.
Like, you'll hear him go, oh, okay.
Like, oh, okay, okay, okay.
Like, he sees things in a unique way.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
But he's still autistic, so he'll say it with, like, mayonnaise hanging out of the side of his mouth.
It's like, Hans, right there.
Clean it up.
joe rogan
What, autistic people don't recognize mayonnaise?
tony hinchcliffe
Nah, he's...
I don't know.
I'm using autistic loosely.
bert kreischer
David Lucas is funny as fucking shit.
joe rogan
He's funny as fuck.
bert kreischer
He's funny as fuck.
He...
We did...
I took him to Macon.
He's from Macon.
And he was like, can I... Mind if I do a show with you?
I grew up in Macon.
I'd love to do a show in Macon.
And I was like, yeah, of course.
And so we brought him out.
And then he was like, you know, that day I'd like to make you...
I have a full black experience.
And so we're like, okay.
So we go to his house and he did like a fish fry and...
I mean, he did everything, and then we went all in and we all watched Madea.
And then hung out with his mom and his brother and his uncle and everyone.
It was a fucking awesome, awesome day.
And then came to the show and hung out with them all after the show, took pictures, but we brought his mom up on stage with him.
And he was like, got on stage, he was like, I went to prom here.
I was like, what?
He was like, I went to prom here.
I was like, that's cool as shit, man.
That's wild.
And he was like, he could not have been nicer, but he fucking murdered.
He murdered on stage.
joe rogan
Yeah, he killed last night.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
He killed last night.
That was a hot fucking crowd last night.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at you guys.
Look at you guys.
tony hinchcliffe
Aww.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
How sweet.
joe rogan
You look a little thinner then.
How long ago was this?
It's been a rough tour, huh?
bert kreischer
It's been a rough tour.
tony hinchcliffe
Not only did you watch Madea that day, she also joined you on stage for that picture.
joe rogan
That's so cool.
So you're off tour now?
bert kreischer
For three months.
joe rogan
So what's the commitment now?
What are you going to do?
bert kreischer
No booze.
joe rogan
No booze?
bert kreischer
No booze.
joe rogan
Well, you're drinking right now.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but I'm going to drink until this weekend when my parents leave.
joe rogan
You don't want to be around your parents sober?
No?
tony hinchcliffe
No.
bert kreischer
I love my parents.
They're cool.
They're cool.
There's a lot of moving pieces, though.
And Lacey, I talked to Lacey, Tate's girlfriend, Lacey Mackie.
She's my trainer.
She's coming back.
We're doing two-a-days.
joe rogan
Two-a-days?
bert kreischer
Yeah, so I do my cardio in the morning, and then she'll come by the night.
joe rogan
You have a cold plunge, too, right?
bert kreischer
Dude, I have the best goddamn setup in the fucking world.
joe rogan
You got a sauna?
bert kreischer
I got a sauna, polar plunge, outdoor shower, fucking shout out to Bert Soren.
Bert Soren hooked me up with a fucking full rack weights.
I got everything you could ever fucking want.
I have absolutely zero excuse.
Because I'm home for three fucking...
I've never in my adult life been home for three months.
tony hinchcliffe
This is the part.
That clip is what's going to play before the results video.
bert kreischer
Well, I plan on for fully loaded.
I have two weeks in June that I'm doing fully loaded.
But two weeks is fine.
And it's a little more work than party for me because of all the moving pieces with all the comics.
I want to make sure they have a fucking blast.
We've got to shoot a ton of videos on the front to help move tickets for the second weeks.
And so, fully loaded for two weeks, but I'm done, man.
I'm going to be...
I've got to, just because I'm like...
I went to the doctor, and the doctor was like, hey, blood works great, liver's great, everything's great.
joe rogan
That makes no sense.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
How is your liver fine?
Your liver's in the green.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they said it's in the green.
bert kreischer
It's enzymes.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Amazing.
bert kreischer
Wow.
joe rogan
How much glutathione are you taking in?
bert kreischer
I do a rub every evening.
joe rogan
A rub?
bert kreischer
Yeah, I have a glutathione rub.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He rubs it over where the alcohol goes!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know glutathione helps your body process alcohol?
bert kreischer
Yeah, I do a glutathione rub on my stomach.
It smells like fucking shit.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
And you wake up with your stomach stuck to your sheet.
Why do you do that?
No, because I'm fucking trying to take care of myself.
joe rogan
That's how?
How about drink less?
It's like, no, no, no.
I'm going to smell like shit with this glutathione.
bert kreischer
We do IVs pretty regularly on the road, and I do a glutathione push, and I get my IVs.
joe rogan
Nice.
bert kreischer
You know, I think people assume I drink more than I drink, and I do drink a lot.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up with this people.
We're talking about me.
bert kreischer
I know, but like...
joe rogan
Bitch, I know exactly how much you drink.
You're talking crazy.
bert kreischer
But I think the real people that have actual problems drink when they wake up.
And don't work out.
unidentified
Oh.
bert kreischer
And don't do shit.
joe rogan
So you never just wake up and start drinking?
bert kreischer
Never.
I mean, like, I can't say never, because, like, obviously, if I'm fucking partying, if we're having a good time, like, if me and Tom will do a shot of tequila in the morning, doing two bears or something, that's a different story.
But, like, when I'm on the road, which is 90% of my time, or at home, I would never have a drink in the morning.
Ever, ever, ever.
I don't have my first drink until, like, fucking midnight.
I have my first drink on the second show when I tell the machine story.
joe rogan
When people start drinking in the morning, you know they're off the rails.
I got a friend who's drinking in the mornings now.
bert kreischer
But that's the people who get real fucking damage to their body is when you don't give your body any time to recover.
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
I definitely go hard, but we get done the second show at midnight, right?
Whatever.
And then our wheels up is at two.
joe rogan
So you don't have any drinks or anything before you go on stage?
bert kreischer
No, not at all.
joe rogan
Do you find that your performance is better?
Because I know you have drank before you went on stage.
bert kreischer
My performance is way better sober.
However, I do like the occasional going up, not at a theater.
Usually I would never do it in a theater.
But if I'm doing a club, I don't have a problem having a drink and going up and messing around or getting high and messing around and trying to figure things out.
Right.
joe rogan
Experimental.
bert kreischer
But people paid money to come see me at a theater.
I'm stone sober.
They don't want that.
They want me hammered.
Like people send shots to the stage.
joe rogan
And you don't take them?
bert kreischer
I've taken one, and the second I took it, I just thought, I thought, fuck, I got drugged this way.
What the fuck am I doing?
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
bert kreischer
And I had a little bit of a panic attack.
joe rogan
Goddammit, Ari Shaffir, you see what we've done to this man?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, I can't have my first drink until midnight.
Everyone else around me is hammered.
They've been drinking all night.
And then we're wheels up at two, and you fucking end up getting in bed, passing out.
joe rogan
Mmm.
bert kreischer
You know?
And I've been smoking a lot of weed lately just to cut back on my drink and I just get high and then get my bunk, hit this fucking Blue Dream vape pen and just fucking...
joe rogan
Is that what you prefer?
bert kreischer
This Blue Dream is a fucking lifesaver.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bert kreischer
Dude, I sleep so sound.
So fucking sound.
I bought an ounce of Blue Dream to roll in joints because I enjoyed it that much.
And I take this into my bed and I'll take like two puffs I'll lay there, and I'll wait until my brain starts thinking on its own.
You know, when your brain goes, you're going like, I've got a busy day, I've got to work on that joke, horses should be running next to me right now.
You're like, wait, what the fuck did I come from?
And your brain's like, oh, my brain's taking over, I'm going into sleep.
You just disappear, wake up in the next city, play some disc golf, fucking...
joe rogan
How'd you get into that?
bert kreischer
We were in Texas.
It's really big in Texas.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
Yeah, really big in Texas.
We were in Texas, and I was looking for a way to get outside.
We had just been to Onnit, and John had given me a kettlebell, and I said, I'm going to take this kettlebell with me everywhere I go.
That'll be one of my weight loss programs.
And so we walked in, and we read the kettlebell, and we saw disc golf.
I said, hey, we should go play disc golf.
We played in, I don't want to say, probably Dallas or Sugarland.
And we went out and played, and I fucking fell in love with it.
I used to play in college, and we loved it in college.
And there was not the amount of discs there are now, back then.
And all of a sudden, I was like, fuck.
So I put up one disc golf video of us playing, and the disc golf community hit me up, and they were like, They're like, hey man, I'm excited you're into our sport.
All the companies started going, let me send you some stuff.
And then we get, like, legit discs.
Like, Innova sent us everything.
And so, disc crafts, all these places.
And then we started going out to disc golfs.
And then professional disc golfers, like Paige Pierce, hit me up.
She's like, hey, you're in Pensacola.
I'm here tonight.
Why don't you come out and play disc golf with me?
So I was like, cool.
And then we're playing with...
The greatest disc golfers ever, and they're giving us tips, and we're all getting a lot better, like a lot better.
And now it's my group of guys, and we're all playing, we're all getting better, and we have access to the greatest disc golf courses and the greatest disc golfers in the world.
Philo is this guy that is a genius.
He came to my Greek show.
I sat with him after the show and just talked disc golf, talked forehands.
And it's fun as fucking shit.
joe rogan
How many people are playing that?
Why isn't it like a big sport that it's recognized?
bert kreischer
It's blowing up right now.
unidentified
Is it?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's getting bigger.
bert kreischer
It's blowing up right now.
joe rogan
Because I had a friend that my friend John used to play it back in New York in like the 2000...
No, it was...
Yeah, I guess it was like the early 90s.
It was like 92-ish, somewhere around then.
And I was like, what are you doing?
He's like, I'm playing disc golf.
I was like, what the fuck is that?
And he was explaining it to me.
bert kreischer
It's so much fun.
tony hinchcliffe
First time I ever got drunk.
14 or 15 playing disc golf with my brothers, who are much older than me.
And one little bottle of the Mike's Hard, or it was a Jack Daniels Lynchburg lemonade, it was called, I remember.
Because I'm like, this stuff's fun!
And I've played my whole life, because it was really big in Columbus, Ohio back then.
And then when I moved to Cali, that's like the mecca, the oldest disc golf course I believe in the world.
I think it was invented in like Pasadena or something like that.
Awesome golf courses there, especially that one.
I remember that one being cool.
It had fallen trees that were leaning against each other right at the driving tee and everything.
Beautiful, beautiful courses.
It's way down there, but you have to first whip it through.
bert kreischer
Through these like massive trees that are right in front of you that literally like one fell on to another So you have to bridge the gap You get some beautiful courses where they're like you got to go through this long list of trees You know who really you know what really fucking sparked it dead honestly is I played a fucking couple rounds and I was posted on Instagram the first person to reach out was Ben Askren Oh, he's a big discoverer.
He's got his own course at his house.
And he's like, hey man, he built like a 29 whole course at his house.
And he's like, hey man, I got a tournament.
I'd love for you to play in it.
You want to come out?
If you're ever in the area, come out.
joe rogan
A tournament at his house?
bert kreischer
He has a tournament at his house.
Ben Askren's fucking legit.
Ben Askren is fucking legit.
And so then I started fucking around, you know, if I ever get like a celebrity ever hits me up, I always play with it on like Aaron Rodgers or any of those.
I play with it on Instagram a lot.
So I'd throw things.
I'd be like, yo, Ben, is this legal?
And fuck around.
And then as soon as Ben tweeted about me, the disc golf community heard about me.
And you can tell if someone's really passionate about something or if they're not passionate.
And I just...
People would hit me up.
I'd be like...
I'd send people my shots.
I'd give me notes.
Mostly...
I fucked my arm up doing a backhand, so I've been throwing a lot of forehands.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
You fucked your arm up throwing the golf thing?
bert kreischer
Throwing disc golf, yeah.
How much does that thing weigh?
173 ounces is what I'm throwing for my driver.
joe rogan
173 ounces is really heavy.
bert kreischer
I think it's 173 is the weight.
joe rogan
Grams?
bert kreischer
Grams, 173 grams.
joe rogan
I was like, Jesus, you know how fucking heavy that is?
bert kreischer
173 grams.
joe rogan
You know what a one ounce fishing weight feels like?
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah, that's not it.
Yeah.
But all your numbers, your weights are on your things.
So, like, if you're throwing into the wind, you want to throw a heavier disc.
If you're throwing with the wind, you want to throw a lighter disc.
But, I mean, I'm obsessed.
I could watch disc golf all fucking day.
joe rogan
Okay, so it's set up in trees.
That's kind of dope, too, that they don't have to fuck up the environment.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Right?
Like, they don't have to...
They don't have to cut all the grass and remove all the trees to make a chorus.
It actually kind of enhances it.
bert kreischer
I think this is Paige.
Is that Paige?
jamie vernon
This is Ben's Pro-Am, so probably.
bert kreischer
I think that's Paige Pierce.
joe rogan
It's kind of interesting.
Why isn't this more popular?
And what made it more popular again?
What was the cause of it having a resurgence?
tony hinchcliffe
Well, it's ridiculously popular.
The people that play it play the hell out of it.
The courses are packed all the time.
It's just not a mainstream What does that mean, ridiculously popular?
bert kreischer
Type in best disc golf throws.
You'll see guys throwing at 450 feet.
joe rogan
Just don't say numbers.
Be like Joe Biden.
No numbers.
bert kreischer
So Joe Mez is based out of Austin.
I've hit that guy up.
They have a great disc golf channel.
This one's like hole-in-ones?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, so you throw it like that now?
bert kreischer
I throw it like that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, you get addicted.
I fucking love this shit.
joe rogan
So there's like millions of people playing this, you think?
Is it on television?
Is it televised?
bert kreischer
No, I was trying to organize a two bears, one cave disc golf tournament and get a million dollar purse.
joe rogan
You should.
bert kreischer
I'm trying.
joe rogan
That seems like something.
Something you guys would totally be able to do.
bert kreischer
We do it in Hawaii.
Innova's got a great course in Hawaii.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
bert kreischer
Bring all the pros down, do a pro-am the day before, and then do a big tournament.
These guys are monsters.
And we, I mean, I get access to a lot of things now.
We got access to a minor league stadium the other night, and we get Don Amarillo.
They hit us up, and they're like, hey man.
We own the minor league stadium.
You wanna come over and play disc golf?
And we're like, boom.
joe rogan
In the stadium?
bert kreischer
I travel with my own goal.
My own fucking goal.
unidentified
Nice.
bert kreischer
I travel with it on the bus.
I have maybe 250 discs on the bus.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
I have Joe.
Wow.
Dude.
That's crazy.
First of all, Innova, Discraft, they've all hooked me up amazingly.
MVP discs.
There's so many great discs that I've been hooked up with.
But if I see a disc golf shop, I go in and drop a fucking...
joe rogan
You just all in?
bert kreischer
200 bucks.
joe rogan
You're all in on disc golf?
bert kreischer
Oh, I'm looking for every Wraith you can possibly have.
I want every plastic that you have.
I want the G-Star.
The Wraith is my disc.
It's a great underhand disc.
And so we set up a disc golf course in a minor league stadium, and I was like, and we're just going to the fucking top decks, throwing from there, throwing like 320 feet.
It was so much fun.
joe rogan
So what happened to your arm?
bert kreischer
So Paige Pierce takes us out, and it really is beautiful when you watch her throw a disc.
But she was showing me the proper way of really putting your hips into it, turning your back to the tee, and then really snapping it, and how important the spin was.
And I threw one, and I just felt like a pop.
And I went, whoa.
And I was like, that's nothing.
And then I kept throwing, kept throwing, and I was like, goddammit, it's starting to hurt.
And I was like, shit.
I was like, fuck.
And then I've disc golfed.
Outings set up with all these great disc golfers, and I'm like, I want to go play with them, but I'm hurt.
And I'd wrap my arm up, and then I went out to this one place in Richmond, Virginia, I think, and they were like, this guy Richard took me out, and he was like, let me show you how to throw forehand.
And I was like, that's how I initially threw, was more like a sidearm.
And I just, and it didn't hurt my arm, and I was throwing a lot further.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
And I was like, fuck.
joe rogan
So further than even the traditional way you were doing it before.
bert kreischer
Yeah, the other way I couldn't, my distance was never great.
But this way, for whatever reason...
joe rogan
Which way do most of the pros do it?
bert kreischer
Most pros can do both.
And they both do both.
And the guys who throw it the furthest do a backhand, and they'll spin into it and just fucking heave it.
I mean, when you play with a pro, you see such a difference in their game that you're like, it's so fucking noticeable.
But it's...
joe rogan
Is a pro giving pointers?
How to throw a forehand in disc golf.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I've watched all these.
I think I know him.
joe rogan
Oh, whoa.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That thing flies.
bert kreischer
I mean, all I post on my Instagram is promo dates and disc golf shots.
I mean, my Instagram, I have one slow motion I look beautiful in, but I was calling shots.
I was calling shots, and it was so much fun.
I was like, all right, I'm going to do an anhyzer up around this tree into the fucking thing, and I called it, and I did it, and it was like right by the pin, and I was like, it's so much fun.
Oh, it's so much fun.
We play in Austin.
There's a brewery.
We play in Austin, and what's crazy is like, Because I talk about disc golf on big podcasts, on Two Bears and whatnot, so the whole community knows me now.
They know I'm into it.
There's a brewery right by the airport here in Austin, and they've got a nine-hole course.
It's a fucking badass course.
I roll in, they're like, machine!
I was like, what's up?
And they're like, cold beers?
What disc do you need?
And I was like, boom.
And then we went out and played, had a fucking blast.
Sun was setting in Austin.
Oh, dude.
Austin's a great scene for disc golf.
tony hinchcliffe
Yes.
It's a great scene for regular golf and for everything, really.
joe rogan
We need to set up a JRE tournament between Tony Hinchcliffe and young Jamie.
Absolutely.
That's what needs to go down.
We need to have some sort of a televised one-on-one.
bert kreischer
That's a good idea.
joe rogan
Yes.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying we need to have something.
bert kreischer
I'd love to commentate that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you and me.
You and me commentate.
We'll commentate.
I don't know what the fuck is happening, so I'll have to ask you.
And then I'll play the average person that's watching.
And then have Tony mic'd with a wireless.
Jamie mic'd with a wireless.
tony hinchcliffe
Set the date.
bert kreischer
I love this.
joe rogan
Hey, I've been waiting.
bert kreischer
Hey, hey, you know where we can do it at?
You know where we can do it at?
joe rogan
Jamie, send me location!
bert kreischer
You know where we can do it at?
Scottsdale National, is that the course?
joe rogan
We'll do it right here, bro.
bert kreischer
Oh yeah, why would we travel?
It's one of the most beautiful courses I've ever been to.
joe rogan
We'll do it in town.
Ron White bought a house on a golf course out here.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, this golf course where he lives is literally the best golf course that I've ever been on.
And I've played at Pebble Beach.
bert kreischer
I played at Pebble Beach.
I played at Pebble Beach with my dad.
It's like $6,000 a person to play.
Jesus Christ!
To play a game?
No, you gotta rent the hotel room.
You can't play at Pebble Beach unless you stay at Pebble Beach.
You have to rent the hotel room.
You have to stay at Pebble Beach.
And then we had to play Spyglass, I think?
Or what's the other one?
What's the other one?
tony hinchcliffe
Spanish Oaks?
bert kreischer
We played Spanish Hill.
We played Spanish Hill.
I had an eagle at Spanish Hill.
My fucking dad lost his shit, turned it into a promo video, ripped my shirt off on fucking Spanish Hill.
I'm a fucking machine!
Tuesday, I'll be in Louisville!
Had an eagle, and I played fucking great, and my dad played great.
The next morning we go to play Pebble Beach, and my dad's like, my back's not feeling so great.
And I said, well, try taking a Tylenol.
And he goes, I think I'm going to eat an edible.
And I go, okay.
So he overprescribes himself.
And on the first hole he's like, I think I might have eaten too much marijuana.
We go to the fucking third holes, a drivable par four.
I think it's a third hole.
It's on a cliff.
And my dad goes, is it just me or is that cliff right next to us?
tony hinchcliffe
It is, too.
bert kreischer
And it is!
tony hinchcliffe
It really...
bert kreischer
Is it?
tony hinchcliffe
There's something about a golf course right there on that coast of California where it's like already the land and energy and life is sort of like wibbly wobbly.
So even if you're sober, it's trippy as hell.
Pull up pictures of Pebble Beach, Trump International.
Every time I've been right on the coast.
If you're standing there...
bert kreischer
This is the trademark hole, right?
This part three, right there.
Go back to that part three.
So look at this.
This is all on the cliffs, right?
unidentified
Jesus.
bert kreischer
And my dad is higher than giraffe pussy.
He is fucking high as shit.
And he is...
Hugging the walls by the golf cart pass going, get away from the fucking cliff!
He's having a full blown panic attack.
We go to play this par 3 and he goes, I can't do it buddy.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I can't play.
unidentified
I paid $6,000 to play golf with him at Pebble Beach and he gets too fucking high.
bert kreischer
This is the drivable par 4. This is when he started having his panic attack.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
That's hilarious.
bert kreischer
The next one's on par 3. The one after that is the par 5 that you drive up blindly.
And my dad, at that par 5, I'm over by the thing, and he is hugging the cart path.
And he's like, get the fuck away from the cliff!
He's sitting on the ground, holding onto the grass.
joe rogan
If you have time and you have money, there's an endless amount of things you could get into.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
bert kreischer
This is a hard...
By the way, at this hole, Tony, I said to myself, wait, I've played Pebble Beach on Tiger Woods Golf.
joe rogan
Wow, look how pretty that is.
bert kreischer
Oh, it's fucking gorgeous, Joe.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, it's unreal.
joe rogan
The green is so lush.
bert kreischer
Oh.
joe rogan
But what I was going to say is if you think about people that say that they're bored, like, God, there's so much you can do.
There's so many things to get in.
If you have time and money, and if you don't have time and money, you're probably working.
And if that case, you're not bored anyway.
You might be bored of your job.
But if you have a need to get into something, there's so many things to get into.
You just gotta be careful.
They'll rob you of your time.
bert kreischer
It's hard to get into shit, though.
joe rogan
What kind of shit?
bert kreischer
Everything.
joe rogan
In what way?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
tony hinchcliffe
It has to sort of be an accident, right?
bert kreischer
I've tried to get into some shit.
joe rogan
Like what?
bert kreischer
Like leather making.
I fucking got into leather making because I needed a hobby.
My therapist told me I needed a fucking hobby.
And the next thing I know, I turn it into work.
I'm like, I'm going to sell these at my shows.
I could sell them for like 90 bucks a wallet.
I'm going to bang out more wallets.
I need to hire some people to help me with this leather working.
I turn everything into fucking work.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
bert kreischer
Everything turns into work.
Like, I don't know how...
I was saying this to Tom.
I want a hobby.
Like, I want a hobby.
I would love to want to hunt.
joe rogan
Well, you have disc golf.
bert kreischer
Well, I have disc golf.
Yeah, I guess I do have disc golf.
What am I saying?
tony hinchcliffe
But the second you do that at Two Bears Invitational...
bert kreischer
Well, you know what it is?
My brain starts going in.
I reach out to these Jomez guys, and I'm like...
A couple of people said, hey, do you want to commentate one of these?
And I go, fuck yeah.
And then I was like, we'll do a Two Bears Invitational.
I should come on my own line of disc.
And my brain goes into business mode too quick.
I was never who I was.
I don't know when the fuck this happened to me.
joe rogan
Well, once you started making real money, you didn't have to fucking worry about the Travel Channel firing you anymore.
That's what happened.
That's exactly what happened.
You realize you are the master of your own destiny.
And now that you've got the ball rolling, look, you've got great work ethic, man.
You fucking put in the work.
And that's why.
And you start thinking, like, okay, I've got to hustle.
I've got to keep hustling.
Just how you make these promos, it's the same kind of deal.
The thing about this disc golf thing is you can actually help disc golf.
I think if you guys do the Two Bears One Cave Invitational, it will put a lot of light on disc golf.
It might give it a significant boost.
bert kreischer
I want to get legit prize money for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you probably could do it, man.
I think you could do it.
I've thought about doing something similar with pool, but it's almost impossible.
It's almost impossible to get people interested in pool.
Because the people that love pool love it.
And everybody else, like, they're looking at it, they don't care.
The ball's going into the hole, it doesn't mean anything.
Like, pool is like an art form that the only people that can appreciate it are the people that play it.
If you don't play Poole, you watch somebody run out, it just looks like every shot's an easy shot.
bert kreischer
It does.
It does.
It's hard to explain.
I think Poole would benefit from, and I don't know if they have this, but someone explaining it to the dummy.
joe rogan
It would do that, but really only benefits to a player.
If you don't play...
People love when it's cool in a movie.
That's when pool gets a boost.
Like the color of money.
Like that Tom Cruise movie.
After that came out, pool halls were packed.
I remember those days.
Because that's right around the time I first played pool.
I think it was like...
What was that?
86?
What year is that?
What year is the color of money?
I had this girl that I was dating at the time.
She's like super competitive.
She wanted to beat me at pool.
It was like...
Was it?
86. 86. And she, like, we went to, and we were both terrible, but we were playing, and I was like, I'm gonna get better, and I'm gonna beat this lady.
Like, fuck her.
I was talking a lot of shit.
And I remember then, as time went on, I would play it every now and then with a friend.
You know, like, you'd be at a bar, there's a pool table, oh, that'll be fun.
But then, when I really started getting into it, I realized, like, oh, like, there's layers and layers and layers to this thing.
And then I became, I was thinking, like, why is this more popular?
It's interesting because it's so hard to do and it's so rewarding when you're good at it.
I'm like, why isn't this more popular?
Because pool is so addictive when you get good at it.
bert kreischer
And everyone thinks they can play a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
Color of Money.
And he's one of the rare guys.
Tom Cruise, by the way, did not know how to play pool before this movie was filmed.
And they hired, rather, the people that made the movie, Martin Scorsese, hired Mike Siegel, who's a multiple-time world champion, one of the greatest pool players of all time, who was also a lefty.
And he taught Tom Cruise to play pool.
bert kreischer
This little dance he's doing here?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
bert kreischer
I did this in Russia.
joe rogan
Yeah, give me some volume on this.
And this is when Paul Newman comes to the pool hall where he's supposed to be hustling.
And instead of hustling, he's showing his full game.
And he's showing everybody how good he is.
So instead of just playing pool, you know, and just sort of doing just enough to win, he's running out and doing it having fun.
Like, he's not even nervous.
And he fucked up the action for the whole town.
And this is very unrealistic that anybody would do this.
bert kreischer
I did that in real life.
joe rogan
But what's not bad, though, is his actual pool playing.
His stroke.
bert kreischer
He looks good.
joe rogan
He plays as good as a guy who doesn't really play as you literally can.
Like the people that like really look like that, like Jackie Gleason really looks like he can play.
bert kreischer
Yeah, he does.
joe rogan
Jackie Gleason, if you go back and watch The Hustler, Go to the Hustler, Jackie Gleason Plays Pool.
Jackie Gleason could play like a legitimate professional pool player.
He could run a hundred balls, which is in the game of straight pool.
That's like the club.
Like, if you're a real player, you actually know how to play.
You can run 100 balls.
bert kreischer
You mean just rack them and run them?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's 14-1 is the game.
It's either called straight pool or it's called 14-1.
And in that game, you have one ball that's the break ball on the table, and then you shoot that ball, and the cue ball slams into the rack and opens up the rest of the balls.
And then you can pick...
Any ball to shoot at, and the whole idea is to just never miss and keep shooting and get perfect position on the next shot.
But when you watch him play, like, he moves that cue stick like a guy who's played his whole fucking life.
He plays like a real pool player.
And this is, without a doubt, the very best pool player actor that we've ever seen in a movie.
Like, by a long shot.
If I walked into a pool room and I saw this guy playing, I'd be like, who's that guy?
bert kreischer
I bet he really could play.
joe rogan
Oh no, he could play.
He grew up in pool halls in New York.
His game was 100% legit.
He was a comedian at the time.
He was a guy from the Honeymooners, right?
So this is a very rare role for him to play a very stoic, quiet, serious, pool player.
Like this is not a Jackie Gleason role in terms of like the use of his talent.
Jackie Gleason was the Honeymooners.
Jackie Gleason was Smokey and the Bandit.
Jackie Gleason was like this big bombastic character.
Not in this movie.
This movie he's quiet.
He barely talks.
He barely talks.
Shoot pool fast, Eddie.
You know, like they have this meeting.
He goes, you shoot a good stick.
And they have this little banter back and forth.
You shoot straight pool, mister?
Now and then, you know how it is.
He's got a cigarette.
And he's like, you're Minnesota Fats, aren't you?
And he's like...
Who's asking?
You know, they go through this whole banter while he's got to say, is your name Felsen?
Eddie Felsen?
I hear you've been looking for me.
And they have this, like, banter back and forth.
We're trying to size each other up.
That's, like, basically his dialogue the whole movie.
The rest of the movie is just him playing pool.
Really?
Yeah, they had him play Minnesota Fats because he's a bad motherfucker on a pool table, and you believed it.
You believed that he was the best in the world.
bert kreischer
See, I think you...
I remember having this conversation with you one time, and you were talking about pool and doing something with pool.
Your interests are contagious.
I've said this to so many people.
You're probably one of the most curious people I've ever met in my life.
But what you're interested in are shit I didn't know I was going to be interested in.
joe rogan
Like what?
bert kreischer
Oh, you name it.
Fucking the mushroom guy.
Remember we did a fucking Sober October thing and the mushroom guy was in here.
You had a podcast with the guy that eats all the mushrooms?
joe rogan
Yes.
bert kreischer
And Ken Stammett?
Paul Stammett?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And I didn't know anything about the guy, and then I get home, and then I look into the guy, I listen to the podcast, I'm like, this guy's fucking amazing.
Things you're interested in...
I don't give a shit about mushrooms.
I never eat mushrooms.
But I fucking watch this kind, I'm like, goddammit, I should eat mushrooms.
But the things you're interested in...
I listened to the one with the dude.
I don't know who the guy's name is.
Is it that group of guys that you're friends with that are like, they're all like political guys.
You were talking about Project Veritas.
Project Veritas and he's a very fucking smart dude.
He told a story about the girl drilling the hole in her head to release the energy so that she could...
joe rogan
I know we saw trepending.
That's what it's called, right?
When they drill holes in their heads.
unidentified
I know, but I don't remember someone telling us.
joe rogan
Someone talked about it.
bert kreischer
There was a guy on the podcast who talked about a socialite who drilled a hole in her head.
You guys watched it.
joe rogan
Was it Eric Weinstein?
bert kreischer
It was Eric Weinstein.
But what you're interested in, I just follow that.
Because Tommy's interested in racing.
I have no interest in racing whatsoever.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
None.
I don't care at all.
But...
Tom talks about it enough, and he's really into it.
joe rogan
You start thinking.
bert kreischer
Well, the number one thought I had was, I want to learn more about this, because I know Tom's not an idiot.
He likes cool stuff, right?
He does.
So I put on Formula One.
The fucking show on Netflix.
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
Is that the name of it?
It's fucking...
jamie vernon
It's like Follow the Drivers.
bert kreischer
It's fucking amazing.
joe rogan
So they have like an in-car camera?
bert kreischer
No.
They follow the drivers throughout their journey of the season and they follow the teams.
It is fucking insane.
Drive to Survive.
Formula One.
Drive to Survive.
So I watch it.
And then I realize...
And then I realize...
Just let people introduce you to the shit they're into, and then be open-minded and get into that shit.
And immediately, I come down to Tom next time.
I've been watching Drive to Survive.
I go, we should start a race team.
And he was like, I'd love that.
And I go, that's all I need to know is that you'd love that.
Because if you love it, I'm going to love it.
I'm going to love watching you love it.
And our fans will love it.
And so I bought him a fucking race car.
Dude, all you have to do, Joe, is just be...
Dude, my whole family is fucking pretty handy with a bow and arrow.
Because when you got into archery, I walked into a store one time, and they're like, yeah, Rogan's into archery.
You want to see our archer stuff?
And I was like, looking for something for the girls to do, so I bought them the recurved bows.
My whole family's got a legit fucking archery shot.
Because you got into it, and then Cam Haynes, I'm fucking fascinated by that guy.
Like, it's all...
The shit you're interested in...
Other people find interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, but pool is a long learning curve.
Long learning curve to get good at pool.
bert kreischer
I'll tell you what, man.
joe rogan
It's almost like saying you're interested in stand-up comedy.
More people should do stand-up comedy.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but a lot of people have access to trying out pool.
Like my daughter, you sent those pool cues to me?
Yeah.
We got some bullshit ones for the kids when they're over, and my daughter Isla pulled one of yours out and put it in her fucking room.
She goes, no one fucks to touch this.
This is a graphite one.
Yeah, it's carbon fiber.
She goes, Dad, this is mine.
And I was like, okay.
And my kids play pool a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are Predators.
Those are good cues.
bert kreischer
It's a fucking badass pool cue.
joe rogan
It's a good cue to...
Well, you know, world-class professionals use those cues, too.
It used to be that everybody wanted wood cues, and now a lot of guys are playing with carbon fiber, carbon fiber shafts.
They're very consistent.
bert kreischer
I'm telling you, man, I would just...
I would do something.
If I were you, I'd shoot a pool show here with some professionals.
Put it on your YouTube.
joe rogan
I thought about it.
I thought about doing something.
I just don't exactly know what I would do or how I would do it.
Not quite sure.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but it's like this podcast.
This podcast definitely wasn't what it started as is what it is today.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the thing is I like playing pool, too.
I don't want to play in a tournament, because if I do, then I'll get obsessed, and then I'll start playing eight hours a day.
That's what I'm worried about.
I don't have the time to just, like, I can play when I want and have fun and play some games, but if I started playing competitively, I would get crazy.
And that I'd want to play all the time.
And then I'd start thinking about it.
I'd be out at dinner.
If the conversation was boring, I'd be thinking about bank shots and how to put the right inside English on a shot and move around the table to get around clusters of balls.
I'd start thinking about shit.
Not good.
bert kreischer
It's nice to take your brain off stuff, though.
joe rogan
Yes, it's good for that.
But archery's even better, I think.
I think archery's the very best thing for taking your brain off something.
There's something about just drawing back that bow and centering that sight on that target and then the perfect release of an arrow and watching it sail and right in the bullseye.
It's so satisfying.
bert kreischer
When we got into archery, it was over the pandemic.
And get two whatever entry-level recurve bows for the girls.
Isla's left-handed.
George was right-handed.
And we were all getting into it.
It was fun.
We had that new house we're at now.
It was just property then.
And Ali goes, I like this.
I just don't like getting the arrows.
And I said, I said, yeah, yeah, that sucks.
But I think that's part of the fun is, you know, go check your shots and where you're at.
She's like, yeah.
So the next, like three days later, we get a delivery on Amazon and it is a hundred arrows.
And this fucking kid would just, all she cares is the, and she would shoot fucking a hundred arrows and then just leave them and was done.
And so if you wanted an arrow, you had to go fucking pull out a hundred fucking arrows.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
bert kreischer
These two idiots were shooting towards our neighbor's house.
And I go, guys, guys.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
And I was like, well, we sent it through a couple back in his yard.
I'm like, he's got a fucking dog.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
bert kreischer
That's the cool thing about being open-minded to get into shit, you know?
joe rogan
I think it's good for your brain, too.
It's also good for your brain to be a beginner.
Being a beginner is important.
Because when you're a beginner, you learn things from the first steps.
And then that process of learning stuff, you get better at.
And you can apply it to the next thing and the next thing.
The more things you can get good at, the better.
Because then you kind of understand what getting good at something entails.
What's involved.
And every new thing, whether it's stand-up comedy or whether it's learning how to shoot a bow, every new thing has its own...
Little subtleties that you have to learn, its own techniques, its own difficulties that you have to overcome.
It's important.
When you're just good at a thing and you just keep doing that thing over and over again, it's not bad.
It's not like it's bad to just keep trying to get better at this one thing that you're really good at.
It's very good in a lot of ways.
But there's something to be said for learning new things and becoming a beginner.
unidentified
Surfing.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
That looks hard as fuck.
bert kreischer
I'm starting that.
I bought two surfboards and I'm going to go up to the beach and stay there a lot these next three months and just...
I want to learn how to surf.
I want to learn how to surf.
joe rogan
So you're going to get a coach?
bert kreischer
Well, I have access to a bunch of pro surfers, meaning like they've, you know, they're fans or whatever, and I've texted with a couple, and I was thinking about going down and maybe just taking like Jamie O'Brien's class, like he does like a class at Turtle Bay, and just doing it, going down to Hawaii for a week and like learning, and then I just would love...
joe rogan
Don't get eaten by a shark.
unidentified
If you go to Hawaii, I'm worried you'd get eaten by a shark.
bert kreischer
Last of your fears.
joe rogan
What's the first of your fears?
unidentified
Dying.
joe rogan
But not by a shark?
bert kreischer
No, that's the way I want to go out.
I wouldn't mind getting attacked by a shark.
joe rogan
Oh my god, Bert.
bert kreischer
We've got to go out one way, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but don't say that.
What about those wave pools?
bert kreischer
I would love that.
joe rogan
They have one in Waco.
bert kreischer
They've got one in Waco.
I would love to do that.
Action Bronson did that.
joe rogan
That looks like the shit.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I would do that.
Maybe next time I come down to do Two Bears, I'll stop by Waco and do that.
I would love to do that.
They don't have one in LA. Kelly Slater's has one, but from what I saw Casey Neistat in there, and you only get like seven minutes in the pool, and there's not enough time to learn.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's one of the things that they're talking about when it comes to surfers today.
One of the things my friend Shane Dorian was saying is that surfers today have access to wave pools, and so young kids that have access to wave pools, they're so advanced because they have so much time on the board.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Well, I saw Kyleni do something about, talk about that.
You said Shane Dorian's name today, and I geeked out.
I follow his son on Instagram.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
bert kreischer
His son's a badass fucking surfer.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would imagine.
bert kreischer
I think I watched them take his son out for his first surfing session at Jaws.
I love the ocean.
I love the water.
I love the water.
That's why I love polar plunging so much.
I just love everything about water.
And I would love to be able to surf.
I would love to be able to take a board out, go out.
Get a great workout.
My buddy Nathan Florence has a whoop.
His whoop numbers, he'll post them on his Instagram, are fucking insane.
joe rogan
Just from surfing.
bert kreischer
Oh, dude.
He's doing workouts that my heart couldn't sustain.
I mean, but he's getting caught in the inside of pipelines, so he's having to go under for three waves or whatever.
But I would love to be able to do that.
That would be like, I think it would probably change my brain a little bit.
And I've taken lessons.
I suck.
I bet it's because I'm fat and I have a hard time getting up on the board.
That's not even joking.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
bert kreischer
When I bought the board, Joe, the kid that sold me the board goes, what are you getting these for?
I said, surfing.
And he goes, okay.
He was really sweet.
He goes, can I give you some advice?
Again, he goes, you should work on getting off the ground.
And I went, what?
And he goes, no, like practice.
Doing push-ups and stuff and getting up quick.
And do a lot of that before you go out in the water.
And I was like, oh yeah, that is a good advice to like...
I should literally see if I can pop up onto my feet from my hands because that's the hardest part.
The hardest part is...
And then we went out surfing and I was like...
Man, I could catch the wave fine.
I could...
Get myself here, but the second I had to slide my feet under, I had to get them past my fat fucking stomach, and I was like, goddammit.
So I was like, that's my goal, is to lose enough weight so I can surf and I can enjoy the water like that.
joe rogan
Alright, so do you want to do this with David Lucas and Red Band, or do you want to do this independently?
I think you should do it independently.
bert kreischer
I'm doing it independently.
I mean, I love those guys.
joe rogan
Those guys need to be involved in something, but you should do something and just document it on social media.
bert kreischer
Get fit.
I'm going to measure my body When I get home, I'm gonna measure my body.
Waist, stomach, tits, arms, thighs, calves.
I used to do that every October.
joe rogan
You should hire someone to do a 3D scan.
Where they scan you like they're gonna make a video character of you.
Come on, man.
We're doing it Burt Kreischer style.
Burt Kreischer style is you hire someone to do a 3D scan of you.
Yeah, I had to do one of those for the UFC video game.
I'm in the UFC video game, so I had to stand there like this.
Just stand there like this, and they spin around.
I think maybe I had to throw some kicks and shit and do some moves.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh yeah, because you were an unlockable character, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was a character.
So you would spin around and this thing circles you and goes around you and it gets all the measurements of your body.
So it gives a pretty accurate representation of what your body looks like.
bert kreischer
We had to do that for my movie.
They had to put them in the thing.
And the fucking wardrobe lady gives me my clothes and they're all really tight.
And I'm like, have I gained weight?
She's like, you're fat.
I don't know what to tell you.
You're fat.
You're fat.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
And I was like, okay.
I was like, these, I feel really tight.
I don't remember them being this.
Y'all, you've been fucking eating the whole time here in Serbia.
You're fat.
That's what you look like.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Wow.
bert kreischer
Like, very direct.
When you deal with...
People that grew up in socialism, they have a different way to talk to you.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
bert kreischer
Like, at one point, the person doing my beard, I said, you know, I feel like you're combing my hair different.
She goes, yes, yes.
I said, what?
She goes, yes, you need to look like your stunt double.
And I said, what do you mean?
She goes, his hair doesn't, it parts.
I said, wait, my stunt double needs to look like me.
And she goes, no, it's easier to make you look like stunt double.
And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
He's never in the movie.
Like, I'm in the movie.
You need to make him look like me.
And she goes, well, it's easier to make you look like him.
And so, for fucking a big chunk of the movie, I look like I have a different haircut and a different beard trim.
joe rogan
Why did you let her do that?
bert kreischer
I didn't even realize she was doing it until it was too late.
I was like, you just trimmed my...
joe rogan
What a crazy lady.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but the same thing.
So we do the thing for the fitting, for an action figure of Burt Kreischer, an action figure, right?
I'm in my action figure clothes, my fight scene clothes.
I'm doing the thing, and I'm like, I feel fat as shit.
Like, I wasn't this fat.
She goes, no, this is what you look like.
This is what you look like.
I do another outfit.
I go, this is even fucking tighter.
And I put my shoes on.
I go, my feet didn't grow.
And then she looks and she goes, oh, you have the wrong outfit.
That's just done for a sun double.
In my action figure, I'm gonna be like this.
I look fucking huge.
It's gonna be fucking hilarious, I'm sure.
But I'm in someone else's clothes.
I look like I'm in someone else's clothes.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
bert kreischer
Yeah, that was an eye-opening...
joe rogan
You're just harsh over there.
bert kreischer
I'm going hard.
I'm going hard.
I'm doing trifecta meals.
unidentified
Okay.
bert kreischer
They send me meals every week.
joe rogan
Okay.
bert kreischer
I'm doing two-a-days with Lacey.
joe rogan
Okay, well we've said it.
It's out there.
bert kreischer
It's out there.
joe rogan
So now it has to be done.
bert kreischer
I'll post it.
joe rogan
Tony's gonna get jacked.
Show him the guns, Tony.
tony hinchcliffe
See that?
bert kreischer
You're pretty muscular.
tony hinchcliffe
Yep.
unidentified
This is like a Will Ferrell movie.
bert kreischer
I love Tony's belly.
tony hinchcliffe
Well, I can suck that in.
I have abs under there.
But if I let it go, this is Texas, dude.
We are one lunch away from being fat here.
joe rogan
You let it go for a little bit in the early days.
tony hinchcliffe
I did, dude.
I was nasty about six months ago.
Thank God for hot yoga.
joe rogan
It's so easy to just overeat here.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh my God.
joe rogan
There's so much good food.
bert kreischer
Oh, get on a tour bus.
joe rogan
Oh, I can imagine.
Why do you have your face on a tour bus?
bert kreischer
Because I like selling.
joe rogan
Is that what it does?
It sells tickets?
bert kreischer
Oh, 100%.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
Oh, are you fucking kidding me?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't have a tour bus.
bert kreischer
You pull into a city and everyone fucking goes, oh shit, I didn't know you was in town.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then they know where you are at all times.
bert kreischer
That's the creepy part, but...
It definitely has been...
The tour bus drives around the country when I'm not on it also.
joe rogan
Oh.
You just have him drive around like a mobile ad?
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
He'll drive...
He's running across country right now, and I was like, yo, stop by Lawrenceville, Georgia, Brandon, Mississippi, on your way.
Because I'm doing those for fully loaded.
joe rogan
So did you lease this bus or did you buy it?
bert kreischer
I leased it.
I think we're buying the next one, next run.
joe rogan
They're super expensive, right?
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
No?
bert kreischer
I mean, yeah, but not for...
joe rogan
What you're doing.
bert kreischer
I mean, I live in that thing.
joe rogan
And what you get out of it.
bert kreischer
Dude, I love living in a tour bus.
joe rogan
And the guys live in there with you?
bert kreischer
Everyone lives in there.
joe rogan
So we're all bunking together?
bert kreischer
We all do bunks.
I got rid of the bed because I wanted to make sure that everyone felt equal.
Because I asked them to live in there.
I want them to know I'm willing to live like they are.
And so we all have bunks.
We have them condo style.
joe rogan
Bro, that's whack.
Make those motherfuckers sleep in the bunk and you get a fat throne, a beautiful bed with a golden door.
You have a golden door.
bert kreischer
My first one I had a fucking sweet bed with a bathroom, my own bathroom.
It was a badass bus.
And then when we did the outdoor shows last summer, or two summers ago, or whatever, I got us all bunks.
I was like, we're living on the bus, we're staying in a bubble.
joe rogan
How many guys?
bert kreischer
We filled up.
Everyone.
Every bunk.
joe rogan
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. So 10 guys on a bus together traveling across the country in a bus.
bert kreischer
And a woman.
My tour manager is a woman.
That's wild.
It's so much fun.
joe rogan
It's so tight.
Have you done it, Tony?
tony hinchcliffe
I once did it with Brian Regan on his bus.
We did an amphitheater in Detroit, and then the next night we had an amphitheater in Toronto.
So that night, after Detroit, we just had the time of our lives drinking and doing whatever we wanted to on a tour bus with a bunch of comedians.
Just talking shit.
It's literally like this.
Like, the lobby of those, or the living room of those things is just as comfortable as anything, and you have the same access to anything.
So it's literally just like hanging out, but you're traveling at the same time.
joe rogan
Do you ever do podcasts from the tour bus?
bert kreischer
I have.
It's not ideal.
They're loud.
joe rogan
Oh, the noise of the engine?
bert kreischer
Yeah, they're loud.
joe rogan
Jamie, is that something that can be worked around?
jamie vernon
I mean, yes, but while you're moving, it makes it tough, because...
bert kreischer
It's pretty loud when you're driving down the road, but man, when you get in a tour bus, you go...
There's no better feeling than...
I don't do it as much anymore, but I still do it a little bit now and then.
I have antibodies.
Getting on the show, I tell the audience where we're going to go party.
We go to a bar.
Everyone shows up to the Rusty Clam, right?
Fucking packed wall-to-wall.
I go behind the bar, I'm making drinks, have a blast.
Get a heads up from the tour manager.
Bus is outside.
You walk outside.
You get on your bus.
Everyone gets in.
You're just coming out of the bar.
Everyone's having a great time.
And then just talking.
Or doing movie night where everyone sits down and watches a great fucking movie.
And you're like, God damn it, man.
I forgot Apocalypto's a badass fucking movie.
joe rogan
You watch this while you're driving?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
And then you go back to the way back.
Go back to the way back.
We'll smoke a blunt.
We'll smoke a joint.
Everyone will be sitting back there.
We're all crammed in the way back.
joe rogan
And the way back is where you used to have a bedroom.
bert kreischer
It's where you used to have a bedroom.
joe rogan
Now that's- What is it now?
bert kreischer
That's where they do their editing and we keep our camera equipment and my clothes.
And then everyone else keeps their clothes in the bunk and then under the bus we have an inflatable pool we travel with.
We have a smoker we travel with.
joe rogan
And how long were you on this bus with these guys for?
unidentified
Oh, since 2020. No, but I mean, how long is a stretch?
bert kreischer
I do three weeks on, one week off.
joe rogan
Wow, so three weeks, you guys are just in that bus every day.
bert kreischer
Well, three weeks, we'll usually do one week, then we'll fly out to Austin, do two bears, fly back, and then we'll stay another two weeks.
And then on our days off, we'll take the bus to, like, we were in Breckenridge.
We were on the way through Colorado.
We took it to Breckenridge and got an Airbnb and fucking did some mountain climbing and Just some fucking fun.
It's like getting an Airbnb is the best too.
joe rogan
It sounds awesome.
We gotta wrap this up.
We got a show in a few hours.
bert kreischer
Oh shit, I got a dinner with my parents in 30 minutes.
joe rogan
Tony Hinchcliffe, you're the fucking man.
Kill Tony.
It's on YouTube every Monday.
You can see it live in Vulcan if you have tickets in Austin, Texas, but you're not going to get tickets unless you're very creative because it sells out basically instantaneously every week.
And it's the best live show in all of comedy.
You want to go see a live video of what's going to be on YouTube.
It's a game show kind of...
It's not a game show, but it's like a live comedy show.
It's not just stand-up.
It's a lot.
tony hinchcliffe
It's a lot.
joe rogan
It's a great show.
tony hinchcliffe
Very fun live.
joe rogan
It's great for stand-up too.
In my opinion, it's a cornerstone of comedy because it lets people know this is just about being funny.
This is not about your ideology or any nonsense.
It's like everybody's doing the same thing.
There's no shortcuts, no faking it.
No, we don't do that kind of comedy around here.
It's just funny.
It's just be as funny as you can.
You get people from all walks of life that enter in and put their name in the bucket to do a minute in front of celebrity comics, in front of an awesome band, an amazing live crowd that is like diehards that go to it as much as they can.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, it's so much fun.
Yeah, it's a blast.
bert kreischer
We did it last time I was in town, and I do not remember it.
joe rogan
I know.
I remember I pulled your cock out.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, you got pants for a second.
It was epic.
joe rogan
His pants were already falling off!
And I was drunk, and I was like, what is this?
Like, half his ass was on.
And I'm like, if I just did this, and I just reached over, right down to the knees.
bert kreischer
That was great.
joe rogan
It was a fun time.
I love you guys.
bert kreischer
Love you guys.
joe rogan
I love you.
It was great to see you, brother.
Everybody knows where to get your show.
Two Bears, One Cave.
Are you still doing BurtCast?
bert kreischer
Still do BurtCast.
joe rogan
BurtCast.
bert kreischer
Still do BurtCast.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
bert kreischer
Fully loaded festival two weeks in June, Red Rocks in September.
joe rogan
Is BurtBurtBurt.com the best place to find everything?
bert kreischer
BurtBurtBurt.com.
joe rogan
BurtBurtBurt.com.
Export Selection