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Joe Rogan Experience #1818 - Christina P
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christina pazsitzky
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christina pazsitzky
So my mom and my stepdad were super fat when I was in high school, and their favorite spot was claim jumpers.
Because of the pork, you can get a lot of food!
You can get a lot!
And like, did you ever eat there?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my god, they give you a piece of chocolate.
unidentified
Piles of food.
christina pazsitzky
That should be the slogan.
unidentified
Piles!
christina pazsitzky
You could eat by the pound.
And, yeah, it was like a slice of chocolate cake that was this.
It was like five pounds of cake.
joe rogan
Yeah, enormous.
christina pazsitzky
And they loved it.
But I think they stopped banging.
You know, in the marriage, when you stop having sex, you just eat.
I think that's what happens, right?
joe rogan
That's rough.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
It gets to that weird place where it's like, what are we doing?
Are we just friends?
Can I tell you I jerk off to porn?
You know what I mean?
It's like, if you get to that spot where you're not having sex anymore.
christina pazsitzky
That's the worst.
joe rogan
It's common, though.
christina pazsitzky
In marriage?
Oh, yeah.
Not in my marriage.
My husband will hold me down and make it happen.
I'm sure.
I swear, Tommy can have a fever, and he's like, are we going?
I'm like, yeah, dude.
But if you're, oh my god, the worst is when you're in a relationship with someone, and you stop banging, and you know when you live with them, and then you fucking hear them come in, and you're like, oh, this motherfucker's here.
It's the worst.
joe rogan
Yeah, when people either grow together or they grow apart.
And if they grow apart and they're still together, that's fucking terrible.
Then you're, like, living with the enemy.
You know?
You have, like, some shithead that you work with, but they're in your house.
You know, like, there's, like, that shithead at the office, like, oh, this fucking annoying asshole.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Now it's your husband or your wife.
You ever done the landmark for him?
Yeah, I know.
And you're like, what are you?
Oh, the landmark.
There's always one in an office, right?
joe rogan
Trying to recruit.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, what do you do?
I mean, you hope that your marriage, that that person is intellectually curious enough and introspective enough that they want to grow, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they want to grow with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You hope that you've married someone.
That's like the secret, you know?
Because I'm watching this Amber Heard thing.
joe rogan
Cheers to that.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, oh, I know.
You've been into it too.
Let's talk about that fucking crazy bitch.
And like, the whole time, you know, I have two little boys.
So I'm like, how do I raise these boys to not be into that?
joe rogan
They're not going to be into that.
christina pazsitzky
Tell me why.
joe rogan
First of all, he grew up famous.
He's an actor.
He lives in that bullshit world.
He's insulated from regular people.
christina pazsitzky
That's true.
joe rogan
Also, I think he was in a real loving relationship before with the mother of his child.
You know, he's married and then left for this crazy bitch.
And I think that when you do that, like, you expect relationships to be like the original relationship that you had.
I think Paul McCartney fell into that, too.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Married that one-legged lady.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She was fucking insane.
Remember how insane she was?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
Like, she kept files on him and threatened to tell everyone everything.
Like, what do you think you have on Paul McCartney?
christina pazsitzky
And, like, he's such a good guy.
He's a great guy.
He's into the one-legged lady...
joe rogan
He thought he was doing her solid.
Meanwhile, she was setting up for a big fall.
She wanted everything.
christina pazsitzky
Bitch, I'm doing you a solid.
You got one leg.
Who's going to bang you?
joe rogan
There's monsters out there.
christina pazsitzky
There's monsters out there.
unidentified
Women.
joe rogan
Men too, for sure.
christina pazsitzky
I know, but here's the deal, man.
During Me Too, it was like, believe all women.
I remember being like, yeah, yeah, okay, let's start.
Absolutely, there's a need for that in society.
But all of them?
unidentified
All of them?
christina pazsitzky
Because there's some crazy bitches out there.
joe rogan
What's that lady who killed her kid in Florida?
christina pazsitzky
How many?
I mean, there's always some lady that...
joe rogan
Casey Anthony.
Thank you.
How about Casey Anthony?
She out there kicking ass?
What's going on?
Believe her?
You know what I mean?
christina pazsitzky
I know!
joe rogan
It's like there's quite a few that are insane.
I know!
This whole, like, male versus woman thing, like, oh, it's so crazy.
And the ones who propagate that, the women who prop that up, are the most insane.
They're the most insane and the ones who hate women the most.
The female comedians that I know that go and attack men whenever anything happens and try to support women, those girls hate women.
They hate other successful women.
They hate women doing better than them.
christina pazsitzky
They're haters in general.
joe rogan
They're haters in general.
But they can find support in attacking a piece of shit man.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it's an easy thing to rally around and get support.
No one's going to be like, let's defend the rapist.
Clearly.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a good way to start.
Start with rapists.
If you're going to be a murderer, be Dexter or serial killers.
Everybody's on your side.
You can get a show.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
That's the thing.
They always rally around stuff that people are like, yeah, well, duh.
joe rogan
Duh.
christina pazsitzky
No shit.
joe rogan
Exactly.
christina pazsitzky
Nobody's pro-rapist.
You're so right.
As I said, I'm raising two little boys, so I'm like, I can't hate dudes.
I'm raising dudes.
joe rogan
I don't think you have to worry about them getting roped into a bad little boy.
With you two in the house, first of all, they're constantly hearing bullshit being broken down and shit on, right?
So that's the thing with my kids, too.
It's like everything is made fun of.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the things that are nonsense, it's really hard to sneak them by my kids because they're like, what?
christina pazsitzky
They know now.
They've been trained to think properly.
joe rogan
They hear what all the time.
What the fuck are you talking about?
christina pazsitzky
See, that's the essence of it, because as I'm raising my kids, I'm like, what is the secret sauce here?
It's not getting good grades.
We all know some of the most successful motherfuckers got bad grades, right?
It's not about doing what you're told.
It's about thinking clearly and the ability to think and go, ah, that's not true.
That's not right.
No, I'm not going to do that.
Yes, I'm going to do that.
And to do what your peers aren't doing, you know?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
christina pazsitzky
To think clearly.
How do you teach that?
joe rogan
You gotta give them tests.
Like they have to do things that are difficult.
Like sports are really good for boys because it forces you to work hard and you understand that effort actually equals reward.
christina pazsitzky
That's everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's big.
Sports are big for kids.
People don't like sports because they think of sports as being connected to jocks and assholes and bullies, but the reality is those difficult social interactions and then the physical struggle of athletics, especially one versus one athletics.
There's so many life lessons in that.
christina pazsitzky
Like tennis?
joe rogan
Yeah, anything where it's one versus one.
christina pazsitzky
I think so, too.
joe rogan
Because if that guy fucking whacks that ball by you, he got you.
Period.
End of discussion.
That ball goes flying by, and you're like, fuck!
He got you.
Maybe if you were in a little better shape, you would have knocked it back in hand.
Maybe you practiced a little more, you had a little more strategy, you know, a little more training.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you'd go, I wasn't such a loser.
I'm such a fucking loser.
joe rogan
And you'd work harder, and then one day you'd beat him.
Like, motherfucker, I got you.
And you'd come home.
unidentified
We are the champions, my friends.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I like that grit.
See, resilience.
What the fuck I'm talking about?
joe rogan
Some people never develop that.
And those are the saddest people to be around.
They also have a really hard time with other people being successful.
christina pazsitzky
Haters, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, haters.
A lot of haters.
christina pazsitzky
There's haters and there's winners.
And you learn that.
I learned that through stand-up comedy.
Failure is the best teacher.
joe rogan
It's a great motivator, that's for sure.
unidentified
Oof.
christina pazsitzky
To avoid the shame of failure?
Absolutely.
All these negative feelings that we're trying to protect children from, it's the secret sauce.
joe rogan
Yeah, it feels bad, but that's also what gets you out of bed and gets you going.
That's like fat shaming.
It works.
christina pazsitzky
It's the best!
Oh my god, so I'm obsessed with French culture right now because I want to age gracefully.
I don't want to be just like a fat American wife, dude.
joe rogan
What about someone with fillers?
christina pazsitzky
I do a little bit, but I'm not gonna go crazy.
joe rogan
Get a cat lady face.
christina pazsitzky
I can't wait.
Tommy wants me to get bigger tits.
joe rogan
Really?
christina pazsitzky
He's like, your tits are so small.
They're huge.
unidentified
Whoa, is he talking shit?
christina pazsitzky
He's just joking, he's joking.
I saw you look at them.
You were like, are they?
No, they're big.
They're enormous.
joe rogan
I've seen them a lot.
christina pazsitzky
You've seen them a lot?
joe rogan
I've known you for like fucking over a decade.
unidentified
I know.
I know.
You've seen me pregnant.
christina pazsitzky
How many years have I known you?
joe rogan
I've known you for 15 years.
christina pazsitzky
Isn't that wild?
joe rogan
That's crazy.
christina pazsitzky
And it's like our lives just stayed the same.
joe rogan
Yeah, pretty much.
christina pazsitzky
Same shit, different toilet.
Can I take my shoes off?
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
christina pazsitzky
So anyway, I like to get comfortable and talk to you.
So I was reading about French culture, and do you know that in France, they don't even sell, like, size 10 or 12 clothing?
Like, the culture fat shames you so hard.
Especially women, like, after you have a baby, your mother or your friends will be like, are you gonna...
joe rogan
Time to get it off.
christina pazsitzky
Time to tighten it up, bitch.
joe rogan
But they're not known for being into, like, physical fitness, though.
christina pazsitzky
No, they're very gelatinous.
Like the men, you can tell they're kind of, they have that body.
unidentified
Skinny fat?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So they just don't eat?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You just have to be anorexic and then you like, I like to walk or I maybe swim.
I do a little bit of swimming, whatever gives me pleasure.
It's always about pleasure.
joe rogan
Oh.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, but I don't.
The Americans, you push it too high.
They're not to go to a gym.
joe rogan
They're food, though.
unidentified
So good.
joe rogan
That's the side of that, like, only wanting pleasure.
It's like you get amazing food.
christina pazsitzky
I know, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
What's your jam?
joe rogan
Oh, God.
Well, I'm mostly a meat eater.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
But I like foie gras.
christina pazsitzky
Fucking A, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's a French word.
christina pazsitzky
Foie gras.
joe rogan
Fogwa.
It's really just liver.
It's just duck liver, which sounds gross.
unidentified
But Fogwa.
joe rogan
Fogwa sounds amazing.
unidentified
Right.
christina pazsitzky
Duck liver is for hillbillies, but Fogwa.
joe rogan
Fogwa.
christina pazsitzky
And don't they force feed the duck?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
christina pazsitzky
Like they force feed it champagne.
joe rogan
The thing about that is, no, they feed it grain.
They put a tube down its mouth and feed it grain.
The thing about that is, though, everybody says, oh my God, that's awful.
They force feed the ducks.
You're right.
Kind of.
But the problem is they like it.
The ducks actually go towards the force feeder.
unidentified
Oh, they do?
joe rogan
Yeah, they walk towards the force feeder.
They want the food.
christina pazsitzky
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not like they run away and hide like a dog that's being beaten or anything like that.
It's like they actually go towards the force feeder.
christina pazsitzky
Look at that.
joe rogan
Bourdain told me about that.
christina pazsitzky
I miss him.
joe rogan
Yeah, I miss him too.
christina pazsitzky
I loved him.
joe rogan
You see my paintings?
christina pazsitzky
I did.
joe rogan
Look at that big giant one.
christina pazsitzky
You know, I read all his books and I watched his shows and I felt...
I'm not into celebrities, but I felt so connected to that guy.
I didn't know him.
I just really enjoyed his whole vibe.
joe rogan
He was a great guy.
He was a great, complicated guy.
And I knew him pretty good.
unidentified
I hung out with him a bunch.
joe rogan
I was friends with him.
That was one of those ones where I really felt like if I was around him, I could have helped.
Because it was a girl thing.
It was like a humiliation thing.
I felt like that guy needed someone Someone rigid, someone be like, hey man, you're gonna be fucking fine.
Fuck all this.
You're gonna be fine.
Don't buy any of this bullshit.
You hitched your fucking train to the wrong caboose.
You got a crazy bitch in your life, and it's not good.
And I've seen many a guy...
Who falls in love with the romantic notion of the wild woman.
You know, you want this wild, independent, you know, tattooed fucking rebel.
She does heroin and smokes cigarettes.
It's romantic.
Bourdain was a guy that liked image.
He was very aesthetically oriented.
He liked rebels.
He liked a certain kind of music that inspired this rebellious soul.
unidentified
Love it.
joe rogan
He loved chefs that were cutting edge.
Outlaws.
Yeah, with finger tattoos and shit.
He was a wild dude, and he loved the idea of a woman like that, but I don't think he knew what a woman like that really is.
You have to be a predator.
You have to understand weakness.
You have to go, oh, look at that limp.
You're not going to make it to the waterhole.
You've got to see the weakness in people.
You've got to see the real flaws.
To see the whole thing.
You can't just only concentrate on the pretty feathers.
I need you to be a part of my life.
Well, that comes with heroin.
That comes with chaos.
That comes with lies.
That comes with cheating.
That comes with...
Stealing your money, getting your ATM card.
You don't want that in your life, man.
You don't want that in your life.
What you need is a burner phone.
If you're a single guy, you need a burner phone, a.k.a.
a hoe phone, and you don't give them your real phone number, and you hang out with them occasionally, and you frustrate them, and they talk shit about you in interviews, and that's fine.
Let that happen.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it's just drama.
It's funny, because I had a few chaos boyfriends before I met my husband.
And, you know, the guy that's like, oh, he doesn't call you for four days.
And then you're like, where have you been?
And then you go over there and he's like, I rearranged all my furniture because he was high on meth for four days.
I made some collages.
I wrote you a song.
And you're like, this guy's wild.
And the sex is exciting because they're out of their fucking minds.
And then it's this push pull.
And I think that's what's so alluring about these psychos.
It's like, this is a familiar feeling.
Maybe I had it with mommy and daddy.
Push, pull, abandonment, whatever.
unidentified
Right.
christina pazsitzky
And I'm going to recreate this drama.
The drama.
Does she love me?
Can I consume her?
Can we consume each other?
unidentified
Right.
christina pazsitzky
It's like, it's an infantile love.
And then real love, when you get married, is about, you know, your husband peeing on you in the shower and laughing or, like, trimming his beard in the sink.
joe rogan
I think you're only talking about real love with Tommy.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, sorry!
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
joe rogan
I've never done that.
If I peed on my wife in the shower, she'd smack me in the face.
christina pazsitzky
We'd have a real problem.
joe rogan
She'd be like, excuse me, bitch?
christina pazsitzky
No, she would not.
She's a lady.
I am not a lady.
I'm learning from your wife how to be a lady.
joe rogan
She could help.
christina pazsitzky
I know, I know.
joe rogan
She knows how to do it.
christina pazsitzky
So you don't, yeah, like Tommy is just so gross.
But anyway.
joe rogan
But you need someone who is willing to work like you're willing to work.
Yeah.
On the relationship, on the friendship.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
And like on being a good person, on being kind and understanding and considerate of you and your feelings and the way they talk to you.
When you see people and like their spouse, like the man will insult the woman or the woman will insult the man, like that kind of relationship is so...
Toxic.
I've never insulted my wife ever.
Ever.
christina pazsitzky
No, Joe.
joe rogan
I would never do it.
I don't insult you.
I would never insult Tommy.
I would never insult Jamie.
I don't insult my friends.
I don't insult them.
And if I have something to say that's unsympathetic, I tell them, I'm sorry I have to tell you this.
But this is what's wrong.
You have to stop doing this.
This is what's fucking you up.
But I do it out of love.
Like, we could all give in to the impulse, like you're annoyed at something.
Maybe you didn't get enough sleep, or you're tired, or you're hungover, or whatever, and someone's being annoying, like, shut the fuck up, you fucking idiot!
You want to say that?
But, you know, it's not the thing to do.
You care.
christina pazsitzky
If I said that to my husband...
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
christina pazsitzky
And, like, Tommy's not an abusive guy, but he might become one.
If I was like, shut up!
joe rogan
No, he'd probably go, oh, for real?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Oh, for real?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'd probably, like, start backing on you.
christina pazsitzky
Because you see those couples that are like...
You're supposed to make a right turn here.
You didn't make a right turn.
You're supposed to make a...
And now we got to go all the way.
And it's like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
Right.
christina pazsitzky
Why are you...
You're going to hang your...
unidentified
Fucking idiot.
Yeah.
Fucking idiot!
You didn't put your blinkers on, you fucking idiot!
joe rogan
People get tossed out.
But it's also that thing, familiarity breeds contempt.
That's a thing with some people.
And part of it is because they're not comfortable in their own skin.
And so they start seeing all the things that are annoying about you.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, my friend.
joe rogan
And you lose that fun of the beginning part of the relationship where you talk to each other about stuff.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And instead, you just get annoyed.
christina pazsitzky
Well, I think you're absolutely right.
You take it out on them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And the problem is you.
It's this guy.
joe rogan
Most of the time it's you.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You know, I think that's the huge beauty of being like middle-aged now is you go like, oh dude, this whole thing, no one's giving a fuck about you.
joe rogan
Right.
christina pazsitzky
You understand?
joe rogan
This whole thing could have been avoided if I was a better person.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was better being a human.
I could have avoided most of my conflicts.
christina pazsitzky
Your drama, because you've got your lenses on, and then you're like, this guy's fucking with me.
And you're like, no, he's not.
This is Jamie.
He's just chewing his gum, and he's looking at the monitor.
He's fucking ignoring me right now.
joe rogan
Well, that's schizo.
The crazier people get, the more they think that people are plotting against them.
People that don't even know.
They don't even know who you are.
They think you're plotting against them.
Like, that's it taken to the worst level of mental illness.
But even like minor level of mental illness, like, oh, she's doing that to annoy me.
No, she's living her fucking life, man.
She likes chopping food like that.
Like, the fork doesn't hit the plate through the meat because she hates you.
It's just clink, clink.
unidentified
I mean, you're like, ah, do you have to make that fucking noise every time you put your fork into the meat?
joe rogan
Clink.
You know, but that's...
When people are so upset with their own life and they're so unsatisfied and unfulfilled and they start finding flaws in everything else, but generally speaking, a lot of that has to do with yourself.
And I know personally when I'm most happy...
With my output, if I'm worked out, I've stretched, I've meditated, everything's going great.
I'm so much more compassionate and so much more caring about other people.
I'm more charitable.
I'm more relaxed about people.
It's like, oh, maybe they're just not getting by good, or maybe it's an error in thinking.
They're not a bad person.
They're having a tough time of it.
I'll be more charitable.
christina pazsitzky
Absolutely.
And also being a function...
That's also, I think, a function of being a parent.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You learn that compassion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I feel sorry for people that decide that kids are just like a waste of time and effort.
christina pazsitzky
I agree.
And you know what's interesting is that I think...
And I fell into this trap too.
I bought into feminism hardcore when I was in college.
I was the angry feminist and I was like, I can't have kids.
Can't have kids.
They're going to hinder my success.
joe rogan
Your freedom.
christina pazsitzky
My freedom.
If I have a kid, I'm going to focus on them and my career is going to die.
And then I was like, I've had two boys and since then...
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
It's been a rocket ship because they make you better.
They test you in ways you were never tested.
The suffering of motherhood.
I mean, it is sublime suffering.
Like last night I was up with my younger.
He was puking on me twice last night.
And it's horrible.
It's fucking horrible.
But then you love them so much.
I mean, who would you let in your life lay on you and vomit on you all night?
joe rogan
Yeah, not a lot of people.
Jamie, I would tell him to go in the other room.
Mike can't puke on me, bro.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, but like...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different kind of love.
It's hard for people to understand.
Like, I remember having a conversation with a buddy of mine.
It's one of those normal conversations.
And he was trying for a baby with his wife.
And he goes, well, you know, I have a dog and I really love my dog.
I go, shut the fuck up.
Just shut the fuck up.
I love my dog, too.
My dog is the best.
I would shoot him and cook him if my children were hungry.
I hate to say that.
christina pazsitzky
See you later, Marshall.
joe rogan
I love that dog.
But, you know, Manny Pacquiao, when he was a boy, his parents didn't have any food and they killed their dog.
They killed the dog and cooked it.
christina pazsitzky
How did they prepare it?
Did he mention...
joe rogan
Well, it's just meat.
christina pazsitzky
How do you season it?
joe rogan
Any kind of meat.
unidentified
Salt.
joe rogan
Mostly salt.
Yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do.
christina pazsitzky
You gotta do.
joe rogan
But when you eat in Rover, it's rough.
But that's like letting everybody know this is next step between eating the neighbor.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Eat the dog first and the neighbor second.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
I might go neighbor first.
joe rogan
Before your dog?
christina pazsitzky
I do love my dog.
joe rogan
What if you got a good neighbor?
You share a paw with a neighbor?
christina pazsitzky
Nah.
unidentified
Share a paw.
christina pazsitzky
Here's the tail, bitch.
It's tiny.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's that thing.
It's like you have to decide, do you want to eat your dog or would you rather starve to death?
christina pazsitzky
Dude.
joe rogan
It's a moral decision at a certain point, but it becomes a survival decision.
And when it becomes a survival decision, you start thinking with your lizard brain.
And you think very differently.
First of all, you think about your children.
And if I saw my children starving...
All bets are off.
I'm diving in the lake with a gun.
I'm doing whatever I have to do.
We're eating beavers.
christina pazsitzky
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
I'm finding food.
christina pazsitzky
Bro, I'm prostituting myself.
I'm out there.
I'm on Congress.
Like, what's up?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And people do do that.
They do that because they realize there's a certain level of comfort that we all have in a normal, functioning Western society where it's fairly good access to food as long as you keep your job, you can pay your rent.
That's cush.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
It seems hard for most people, but in comparison to hunter-gatherer life in the fucking Serengeti, it's cush.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, dawg.
I remember my parents escaped from communist Hungary, right?
And so I grew up around hardcore Hungarian dudes, like dudes missing knuckles who were like carpenters.
And like real blue-collary old school.
And I'll never forget this, this guy.
One of my dad's friends was like, listen, Cristico, in America, this is the easiest place to live, okay?
Everything is cheap.
You rent some car, your clothing is cheap, eating is cheap compared to other countries.
This is easy living.
This is easy living.
People make it.
I'm like, yeah, I kind of, I get that.
And then you travel and you're like, dude, this is kind of good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
We got a decent system here, bro.
joe rogan
This is an expression that I say all the time, but I'm going to say it again.
The hardest thing that's ever happened to you is the hardest thing that's ever happened to you.
It doesn't matter if it's easy.
If it's a very small thing, like you can't get a table in a restaurant and you throw a hissy fit.
Because that's the hardest thing that's happened to you today.
Because your life is easy as fuck.
But if you're coming from a communist country, and that's one of the things that I always liked about you, is because your family did come from that hard...
You don't buy into any bullshit.
That's why, because you see where bullshit gets you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or all this fucking Marxism and socialism and colleges, you know where that gets you?
That gets you to a communist fucking ruling dictatorship where you're doomed and the government decides how many potatoes you get in a week.
christina pazsitzky
Of course.
And look at all these assholes that want to tell you what you can and cannot say.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Go fuck your mother.
Don't tell me what I can and cannot say.
I think one of the greatest things is Elon Musk buying Twitter.
Amazing.
I love it.
Great.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
christina pazsitzky
Great.
Good.
unidentified
Enough.
joe rogan
That's what we need.
christina pazsitzky
Enough.
I mean, are we done being offended?
Are we done?
No.
There's nothing more to be offended by.
joe rogan
No, they're going to keep going.
They're going to keep pushing the boundary because that's what the culture war is.
The culture war is just like we were talking about, you know, people that just decide to be upset at something rather than focusing on themselves.
That's a lot of what the culture war is.
christina pazsitzky
It's an externalization.
The inside this is it their mental patients and they're externalizing their shit onto the world It's like what what is this and we're giving this a voice?
joe rogan
But think about yourself when you were in high school or you were in college when you were a feminist College college, you know that those thoughts but those thoughts like they're valid thoughts like you you're saying this because you see so much of the outside life that you don't like you see so much of like Women are being disrespected just simply because they're female or they're not being taken seriously because they're female.
And you're like, fuck that.
We can fucking dominate men.
And you think of that because you're on team woman, because you're a woman.
It's like this normal sort of course of progression.
And then as life goes on, you're like, oh, it's not a male versus female thing.
It's an asshole thing.
There's assholes out there.
christina pazsitzky
Everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Some of them just happen to be male.
christina pazsitzky
That's right.
And half this world is populated by males.
So I better learn to love my bros.
And I love men.
I love you guys.
You psychos.
Look at everything men have built.
Look at society.
Penicillin.
All this great stuff.
joe rogan
I think that was by accident.
christina pazsitzky
That was by accident.
But you did it.
unidentified
I love it!
joe rogan
I don't think you can say all men, though.
It's just like...
christina pazsitzky
Not all men.
joe rogan
It's that energy.
christina pazsitzky
Yes, creative energy.
joe rogan
The male energy.
It's a weird energy.
Because it's the energy that's responsible for the vast majority of inventions.
christina pazsitzky
That's true.
It's a weird energy.
But then also...
But then the other side of that, as I become mother and blah, blah, blah, is to realize the power in that.
And I think the mistake of my thinking in the past is that that didn't have merit.
unidentified
Right.
christina pazsitzky
Because it's not out in the world.
And that's my failure as a...
joe rogan
I think that's culture's failure because it's not put in a category of like, you know, you could mark it on a ledger.
Like, look at all this money that comes in from being a mom.
You don't think about it that way.
christina pazsitzky
Because it's not calculated by a, quote, male standard of achievement.
joe rogan
It's just money.
christina pazsitzky
But the woman, yeah, it's just money.
Everything is money.
Follow the dollars and you'll see where the bullshit goes.
But the woman is the center of the home.
The woman is the center of the fucking universe.
joe rogan
Well, you literally create all the human beings that have ever existed.
All of them.
But in this stupid world where everybody's just concentrating on material possessions and advancing and keeping up with the Joneses, that doesn't seem like for a lot of men, my wife does bad money.
You know, like they get into this sort of mindset where they don't respect that this is a completely different relationship with human beings.
She's making them in her pussy.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, dog.
joe rogan
She's making them in there.
christina pazsitzky
Well, she squeezes them out of the pussy.
joe rogan
Well, that's the door.
christina pazsitzky
That's the door.
joe rogan
Go through the door.
It's in the mountain.
If there's a fucking door in the mountain, they're making them in the mountain.
christina pazsitzky
She makes them in her mouth.
I don't know.
joe rogan
She makes them inside her uterus.
Christina, you don't even know.
unidentified
You don't even fucking know what a womb is.
So stupid.
joe rogan
We have this goofy society that puts...
Look, here's what it is.
It's really simple.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, go ahead.
Break it down.
joe rogan
It's hard to acquire money, right?
It's hard to get wealthy.
So we think of money as being the most significant thing that a person does with their effort.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
But raising children is not just equally significant, but more significant.
Because if your kids are a nightmare, you lose money.
If your kids are a nightmare, your life is shit.
You don't have any happiness.
Because if you do a terrible job in raising your children, on the flip side of that, you're going to have all sorts of chaos in your life because of that.
There's no free ride.
If you ignore your kids, like look at Hunter Biden.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
What do you think happened there?
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Why is he doing crack and getting foot jobs?
I'll tell you why.
Because daddy wasn't around.
christina pazsitzky
That's right.
joe rogan
Too busy being the fucking vice president and the senator from Delaware.
That son of a bitch.
He did a shit job working 16 hours a day.
Poor little hunters alone with a crack pipe and a fucking box of kiddie porn.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
unidentified
I know.
christina pazsitzky
Well, someone told me a good saying.
unidentified
I don't think kiddie porn.
christina pazsitzky
Cut that out.
Yeah, cut that out.
Cut the kiddie porn out, Jamie.
Someone told me this great saying, pay now or pay later with children.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
christina pazsitzky
You know, there's this great viral clip that Jordan Peterson has where he's like, you have little kids for four years.
For four years.
And then it's gone.
And I'm like, yeah, dog.
He's on it.
That's right.
Four years.
And I'm there.
Like, I'm fucking, I'm there.
And I like it.
And it changed me and it transformed me and it made me a better human being.
And let Tom go out.
And make the money, and I'll stay home.
joe rogan
Well, you're making money, too.
christina pazsitzky
I am, but I'm on a smaller scale.
joe rogan
You guys have a great relationship in that you don't have any career conflicts, and you also have one career, very successful thing that you do together, your mom's house.
So because of that, it's such a cool gig.
It's such a great thing.
It's amazing that you guys have that together and it's so fun.
And then you also have your other stuff.
Like you have your touring and he has his touring and then you're raising children together and it's fucking great.
christina pazsitzky
It's a great life.
joe rogan
You've got a great balance.
christina pazsitzky
I'm so, so lucky.
And I wonder who suggested we do a podcast.
Look at that smile.
You know, we owe you.
You're the hero.
I think what you do is so important to so many people.
And I'm so lucky that you were in our lives and are in our lives.
joe rogan
Oh, it's my pleasure.
When I saw you, I was like, you guys 100% should be doing a podcast together.
This doesn't make any sense.
I go, you're hilarious together.
You're both hilarious comedians.
Like, why aren't you doing a podcast together?
christina pazsitzky
And I remember Tom came home from that discussion.
He goes, Joe says we should have a podcast.
And I go, what's a podcast?
joe rogan
You really didn't know?
christina pazsitzky
I fucking, what do I know?
I mean, you, but here's what's, and I tell people about, I tell people this about you.
The brilliance of you, amongst many things, you're a very diligent worker, you're a great comedian, you're fucking in it, like you're doing, but that you've also been an early adapter.
Is that the fucking term?
joe rogan
Yeah, adopter.
christina pazsitzky
Adopter.
Yes.
Where you go, oh, there's a cell phone?
What's a cell phone?
And, you know, Joe Rogan buys the first cell phone that's like the brick.
And I heard this great story about you on the road where the guy goes, well, yeah, I needed a comic to fill in last minute.
And I go, oh, well, Joe Rogan has a phone, a cell phone that he carries around.
So I call Joe and then Joe can do the week.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's Bill Blumenwright from the Comedy Works or from Comedy Connection in Boston.
christina pazsitzky
There you go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I had a cell phone in 1989. How big was it?
christina pazsitzky
How heavy?
joe rogan
It was attached to my car.
It was in the middle between the two seats of my car.
christina pazsitzky
Did you have to take it out every time you left?
joe rogan
No, no.
It stayed in the car.
I just had to lift it up.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
But it was cool.
I could make a phone call while I was driving.
christina pazsitzky
That's rad.
Do you remember the fucking stereos that you had to pull out?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I had one of those.
A Blaupunk.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You take it to the club with you?
joe rogan
Yeah, because you don't want to be stealing your stereo.
So it literally would slide out and slide back in.
I had one of those.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
What were we thinking?
christina pazsitzky
Who cares?
joe rogan
Well, people broke into a lot of fucking cars back then, sold stereos.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
Because I bought a stolen stereo before.
All you had to do was take the wires.
It wasn't hard.
I mean, I installed it myself.
You just go back there, you climb underneath it.
Get in the wires and pull them out and splice them together, duct tape around it.
christina pazsitzky
You learn how to do this?
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
From who?
joe rogan
Probably school.
unidentified
School?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
We had an auto shop in school and I learned a lot about cars.
God, I wish I could remember his name.
Because he was a really interesting guy.
He was in love with Mustangs.
And he actually is the guy that really got me into Mustangs and old cars.
He had a passion for old cars.
And he had everybody work on his cars.
And he would show you how to fix a quarter panel.
It's calm.
Yeah, it was back in the day when you could do that kind of thing.
You know, I don't know what kind of work you could actually do in your car today because cars today are so complex.
They're all computers and there's, you know, so many, you know, there's navigation systems and there's fucking auto, you know, anti-lock breakings where it's braking like thousands of times a minute.
Back then it was like real clear, like the rotors are down, let's change the rotors.
We got this, we need to, you know, this radiator's no good, let's get another radiator.
We would go to a junkyard, get parts, he would do that.
And he would bring them back and we would work on cars.
It was like one of our, it was also a thing where just because of human nature, it was an all guys class.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
It wasn't that girls weren't allowed to do it, they'd never signed up for it.
christina pazsitzky
You guys are excluding us.
joe rogan
No, they could totally go.
christina pazsitzky
You're excluding us from the narrative.
Yeah, but I wanted to learn it.
My dad was a forklift mechanic, and I would beg him, I want to learn how to fix a forklift.
And he's like, no, women don't do this.
You don't want to do this.
It's disgusting.
I'm like, oh, I wish I could.
Like, to change the oil on your car?
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I would like to know how these things work.
I think it's fascinating.
joe rogan
I used to do all that shit.
christina pazsitzky
You could change the oil in your own car.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, that's one of the things that I really like about muscle cars.
Well, not anymore, honestly.
Because now the muscle cars that I get, they're all what's called a resto mod.
So they'll take an old car, but they'll put new brakes in it, new suspension, new engines.
They handle better, you know, new steering components.
They're much more safe and much more manageable in terms of day-to-day use, but they look and feel and sound just like an old car, which is what I love.
christina pazsitzky
You're so funny.
You and my husband.
My husband loves the vroom vrooms.
joe rogan
I love that he loves the vroom vrooms because he and I are like the ones like, like if I buy something, I send it to him.
Like, look at a car.
christina pazsitzky
You guys with your, you get your schmeckles hard looking at pictures of, that's why I say I'm like, Tom can't get a new wife but he can get a new car.
And he loves, he doesn't scroll like chicks, he scrolls cars.
joe rogan
No, he loves cars.
christina pazsitzky
Loves.
And the louder, he's like, oh, listen to this.
joe rogan
It goes so loud.
christina pazsitzky
He's like, put it on this mode when you drive it.
I'm like, all right, dude.
If it doesn't make my schmeckle hard, it's not for me.
joe rogan
When I met him, he was like 15 years ago, like 2007-ish, I think it was.
And he was broke.
And now he's balling out of control.
It's so fun to watch, to see him.
He's like, dude, I just got the GT3 Tour.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my God.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
unidentified
He's balling.
christina pazsitzky
Let me tell you about my husband, though.
He's so...
He's brilliant with business, and he's a brilliant comedian.
And I think you are...
joe rogan
It's a rare combination.
christina pazsitzky
Yes, and I think...
And, like, his memory is amazing.
Like, we were watching this awful show about John Gacy.
I don't like murder things, but he's like, babe, it's great, watch it.
And I fell asleep, and he goes, let me catch you up on what happened.
And his ability to recall facts, like, and then he dressed up as a clown, and then they sat on his lap, and I was like...
Who are you?
Like, his mind is so able to—you can ask Tommy, hey, what was it like 2015, we did this thing?
And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you sat here, and then—like, his recall ability.
It's amazing.
I don't have that.
I don't even know what I fucking ate this morning.
joe rogan
But don't you have mommy brain, though, a little bit?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I'm fucking done.
joe rogan
I'm cooked.
But mommy brain is just a lack of sleep.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And a lot going on.
And you have these two humans that you have to take care of more than anything.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
That's mommy brain.
christina pazsitzky
They're my priority, so I don't have this.
And he's always like, you don't remember I told you that?
I'm like, dude, I don't know.
Like, I gotta remember that fucking Friday is snack day at school and we had a pack.
You know, I'm not there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a good memory instead, but only on things that I'm interested in.
My wife will tell me stuff and I'm like, I don't remember talking about that.
She's like, I told you yesterday.
I'm like, you must have been boring the shit out of me.
I don't remember what the fuck.
I have the ability to go into like background mode.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
You just become static.
christina pazsitzky
Can you talk like that with her?
Can you guys be like, I don't fucking know.
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
That's the only way it works.
christina pazsitzky
Same.
joe rogan
It's the only way it would work.
I have to talk to her like I'm talking to you right now.
It's just gotta be me and her.
christina pazsitzky
Or could you imagine being with someone that you have to censor yourself in front of?
joe rogan
That's a lot of people.
It's a lot of people.
There's a lot of people that live like that.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
I'm so thankful I can just say crazy shit to Tommy.
joe rogan
Well, because they haven't found the right person, instead they found a person and they've got the person to act like the right person.
And that's not good.
That's not good for anybody.
christina pazsitzky
That's terrifying.
joe rogan
No, because you're always trying to meld that person and conform that person to your idea of what a person should be.
And they're always trying to conform to your idea and pretend.
As soon as they get away from you, they can't wait to hit the pipe.
They're smoking crack and going crazy.
They're out there wilding.
christina pazsitzky
They're wilding, bro!
Smoking rocks!
I heard that crack is not as fun as you think it is.
Have you tried it?
joe rogan
I have not tried coke or crack.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I'm not into stimulants.
I'm into downers.
I like to get low.
joe rogan
I'm afraid I'd like it.
christina pazsitzky
Me too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
But let me tell you, so we knew this guy that smoked a lot of crack, and he's like, yeah, I get it.
I go, what do you do when you smoke crack?
unidentified
And he's like, I look through the peephole.
christina pazsitzky
I'm like, that sounds fucking terrible, bro.
joe rogan
Imagine if that's like the favorite thing of the day.
What's your favorite part of the day?
Peoples.
I was looking through that little fucking distorted fisheye lens of the hallway.
See who's walking down my fucking hallway.
christina pazsitzky
Amazon?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, what a nightmare.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Fuck that, dude.
joe rogan
Well, also, there's enough videos online of people knocking on people's doors and trying to break in that freak out.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
Wait, but speaking about...
I mean, I don't know if we should talk about this.
unidentified
Talk about it.
christina pazsitzky
You may want to edit it out.
joe rogan
Okay.
christina pazsitzky
But the whole Jada-Will thing...
Tom and I were obsessed about that.
unidentified
I'm obsessed.
christina pazsitzky
Right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Like, yo, she straight humiliates him.
christina pazsitzky
I watch Red Table Talk.
I love it.
It's bizarre.
It's like, you're not famous enough.
You need to talk about your family stuff.
joe rogan
I think at this point in her life, that is all she's got in terms of like her connection to a lot of attention.
She's not in big projects.
You know, I mean, was she in The Matrix?
She was in The Matrix, right?
Did she have a big role?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
Did you see that last one?
joe rogan
No.
christina pazsitzky
I'm a huge fan of the series.
joe rogan
I didn't see the new one.
I heard too many bad things about it, except for Jamie.
Jamie liked it.
christina pazsitzky
It was okay.
joe rogan
But even admits his own opinion suspect because he loves The Matrix.
He admitted that.
I love that about Jamie.
I go, was it good?
He goes, yeah, but you know what?
I wanted it to be good because I really liked the Matrix.
christina pazsitzky
Sames.
But sorry, what were you going to say?
Yeah, it's an attention thing, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
It's also you used to have a pretty decent career and you really don't anymore.
And then you got to fill that lack of engagement with something else.
So you do this thing where you start talking about your family or you do a reality show.
One of the things that people do, it's like the last gasp of the dying celebrity presence.
christina pazsitzky
Dancing with the stars.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do one of those.
But the reality show is the scary one because you let people into your family and then you're like, nah.
Play acting around your wife and your kids and your friend who comes over to play fucking pickleball with you and is like trying to make a thing out of a gamble that you have on pickleball.
And if you've ever been a part of one of those reality shows, they did one at the store for a while.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Keeping up with the store, minding the store.
christina pazsitzky
That's it.
joe rogan
Keeping up with the Kardashians.
christina pazsitzky
Keeping up with the Stardashians.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they had like these scenarios all planned out like we're gonna go to get something to lunch We're gonna go to get Mexican food, but the wait's too long We go to here and then we're gonna eventually settle on Chinese But Polly's gonna say Chinese first and then it's gonna go through all these different things until we eventually decide on Chinese It's like like what are you doing?
But they they had to treat it like they would most of these people that produce these shows and I've worked on them before and They produce it the same way they would produce fiction.
Like we'd like to have an outcome that we can control.
So what's the outcome?
The outcome is you go out all this and you guys are going to argue about you went to this place and the gas is too expensive.
christina pazsitzky
But yeah, and I was on road rules in the 90s back when it was like...
joe rogan
Back with Theo Vaughn.
Back in the day.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, he was a season...
Let's get fucking faded, bro.
Let's party.
I'm just happy to be out of my house.
Let's drink.
unidentified
Let's drink.
joe rogan
You want a cigar?
christina pazsitzky
I don't do that.
I don't even know how.
Okay, I'll put it in my mouth.
You like the flavors, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Do you want some more of this, mommy?
joe rogan
Sure.
Thank you.
I love how everyone's mommy with you.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Mommy and jeans.
People don't know that.
They're like, what the fuck is she saying?
christina pazsitzky
Well, here's the best part.
I call waiters mommy jeans.
I call everybody mommy.
Nobody's pushed back.
Nobody.
And I've done it for five years.
I'll be like, yeah, I'll take the appetizer.
Thanks, mommy.
unidentified
Ah!
christina pazsitzky
Try it.
Try it.
Nobody pushes back.
It's the best game.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
christina pazsitzky
Start doing it with your life.
What was he talking about?
joe rogan
You were talking about getting a cigar.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, reality shows.
Shut up.
You're not.
Oh, Jesus, Joe.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Get a puff on that sucker.
christina pazsitzky
What the fuck?
How do I do this?
joe rogan
Just puff it.
Like a cigarette.
There you go.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
We need more.
Gotta get it lit more.
christina pazsitzky
I'm scared.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
You're fine.
A little more.
There we go.
christina pazsitzky
But I don't inhale it, right?
joe rogan
No, no.
christina pazsitzky
You just do a Flavs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just get in there.
christina pazsitzky
Tommy loves these.
Who was it?
joe rogan
Tommy and Bert.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I kind of like it.
joe rogan
Not bad, right?
Get it like this.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, get a little in your mouth.
christina pazsitzky
How many memes is this going to make right now?
joe rogan
It's going to get you excited.
How many memes?
A lot.
christina pazsitzky
Me sucking on a big brown dick.
joe rogan
I do it every day.
Just give in.
christina pazsitzky
Sucking on a big brown cock.
unidentified
Just give in.
christina pazsitzky
I feel like Joey Diaz.
unidentified
Just give in.
christina pazsitzky
Do I hold it like a cigarette?
joe rogan
I do.
I hold it like that.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
I guess I hold it like a cigar more than a cigarette.
christina pazsitzky
Show me.
joe rogan
Like that?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like I'm making a deal.
unidentified
Hey.
joe rogan
Over here.
The pimento's gonna have this block.
unidentified
Yeah.
This is the delineation line for the families.
christina pazsitzky
Isn't it glamorous to be in the mob?
joe rogan
Until they kill your family, yeah.
Any kind of crime is great when it's going great.
Look at you.
I'm doing it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
All of a sudden, you're a cigar broad.
christina pazsitzky
I can see it.
I kind of like it.
joe rogan
I like it, too.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
I think I have a lot of...
I like stuff guys like, but I'm now embracing my feminine side.
But inside, I'm like a nine-year-old boy.
I think that's why your mom's house is fun, because it's just farts and stuff.
joe rogan
Well, it's chaos, too.
Like, the live one that I did with you guys.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
unidentified
That was the best.
joe rogan
When you watch those videos, like, it's a brilliant idea, by the way.
What you guys did by coming up with this show where, and having watched them and be a part of them, been a part of them, there is not a fucking chance in hell you could do that in any other format.
unidentified
No, it's okay.
joe rogan
They're so over the top.
The videos are so fucked up.
Some of the things these people are doing to their own bodies are so fucked up.
And you're watching guys eat bowls of shit, like actual bowls, like digging with their hands and eating their own shit.
Like, what the fuck, man?
christina pazsitzky
But that's what I love.
I've always loved The Outliers.
And it started with Gigi Allen.
I don't know if you've ever seen that documentary that Todd Phillips did on Gigi Allen.
joe rogan
I did not see the documentary, but I'm aware of him.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I love Freakos.
I love that whole thing.
And it just makes me excited.
It gives me joy.
And I'm so blessed that we have podcasting now that I can do a whole show on that.
I don't have to take notes from a fucking executive.
I don't have to sell General Electric advertising.
joe rogan
They would never let you guys be what you are.
christina pazsitzky
Never.
joe rogan
There is not a chance in hell.
If you guys had bosses and you were on some sort of a network that controlled what was aired, and then you told them the story about the idea for the pay-per-view shows, we're going to do something that's literally illegal.
christina pazsitzky
There's a guy that's going to staple his balls.
There's going to be a nail in his cock.
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, it's everything awful.
I know.
There's so many awful videos.
And it's like, watching them with you guys is so much fun.
And it's super popular.
Like, when you guys put those up, and Tommy was telling me how many people download them, I'm like, whoa!
And he's like, but yeah, we have a whole organization.
We hired producers.
Oh, yeah.
It's like a real production.
christina pazsitzky
We put so much money into that.
joe rogan
When I went to the live one I did with you guys, I'm like, holy shit.
This is so impressive.
christina pazsitzky
You should see the new studio.
It cost us like 10 million dollars.
It's crazy.
Still not done.
But it's still fun.
And you know what?
When I did reality shows in the 90s, after I did Road Rules, I was like, gosh, wouldn't it be great to just make a living being myself?
And then I got into acting after, and I hated it.
I hated going on these auditions and I had to say stupid things.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And then came podcasting, and I was like, oh, I get rewarded for being a degenerate?
This is great!
joe rogan
You're not even just being a degenerate, you're just being fun.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, just having fun, because life should be fun.
joe rogan
Degenerate is a person who loses all their income to a craps game.
You can't help but bet on the horses.
I knew a lot of degenerates.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
You come from a hardcore background, yeah?
Like Boston?
joe rogan
Well, I grew up in all over the place.
But when I went to high school, I was in this nice area in Boston.
I was in a really shit area in Boston when I was 13. We lived in Jamaica Plains.
It was very sketchy.
But thankfully, my parents realized it was sketchy.
They'd come there from Florida, like, this neighborhood's dangerous, and they got us out of there.
And they moved us to this place called Newton.
And Newton is a nice suburb of Boston.
We lived in the blue-collar section of Newton.
It's like Newton Upper Falls.
We had, like, the shittiest house in the neighborhood, and we were poor as fuck.
It was a nice place to grow up.
It was nice families.
It was good.
But then I was always involved in either fighting.
I was either involved in martial arts or stand-up comedy.
So from 15 on, it was all either martial arts, which is a bunch of psychos, or stand-up comedy, which is a bunch of psychos on drugs.
unidentified
Love it!
joe rogan
So it's like I've never had, there was never a time where I was like in some normal path to, you know, having a white picket fence and living in the suburbs and getting to work every morning, same time as everybody else and having office meetings.
Like, no, it was always weirdos.
I was always around weirdos.
christina pazsitzky
Thank God.
I love weirdos, thank God.
And like, I love comedians.
Like, I fucking love them.
I finally got to go to the Comedy Store when I was in LA last week, and it was like, oh my god, I'm home.
But there's so many things missing now, you know, like Jeff Scott is gone, which broke my heart.
joe rogan
It's definitely not the same, but it's still the best.
I loved it.
I was back there last month.
I did a weekend.
I did a Friday and Saturday.
It was awesome.
It was really fun.
It was really fun.
christina pazsitzky
And you know what I love right now?
Is that comedians are starting to get bold.
We are now starting to be like, fuck you!
Like, let's do, we're doing jokes again.
And I'm seeing a lot of dudes doing like, oh, like even this special tonight, just released, Mom Jeans, shameless plug, yes.
So the LA Times did an article on it and she was like, whoa, you went hard.
And I was like, yeah.
And she's like, is there anything that didn't make it?
And I was like, yeah.
I had to cut stuff out and it's going in the next hour.
Because I'm done.
I think we're done.
joe rogan
With, you know, censorship and that kind of stuff.
Well, there's a lot of complaining people that wouldn't have liked you in the first place.
christina pazsitzky
No shit.
joe rogan
And you can't let them decide what you're going to do and not do on stage.
christina pazsitzky
Look at me smoking my cigar and I agree.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at you.
You're smoking like you're a rebel.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you fucking bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah, rebel.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that fall into patterns of thinking and they want to control other people's patterns of thinking as well.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
They fall into patterns of thinking and they'd like you all to align with their pattern of thinking.
christina pazsitzky
And if you don't, then what?
Then I'm going to force you.
joe rogan
Yeah, whether it's conservative or whether it's liberal and progressive, it's like people, there's a lot of people out there that have good intentions, but then there's also a lot of people out there that just are, there's a predictable pattern of human behavior.
And that pattern of human behavior is they like to tell other people what to do.
And part of their fun is getting other people to comply and getting other people in trouble, getting other people fired.
christina pazsitzky
Fucking tattletales, bro.
joe rogan
But it's a natural pattern of weak-minded human behavior from people that are generally not good at things.
That's what it is.
The people that are doing that, the people that are always wanting to tell people what to do or always wanting to get people in trouble, they're never good at anything.
christina pazsitzky
That's what they're good at.
But that's what they're good at.
Being fucking tattletales.
joe rogan
Because that's what they're concentrating on.
If they were concentrating on other things, they'd be good at that.
christina pazsitzky
True.
Like anything.
joe rogan
A skill.
It's just an unhealthy pursuit.
If you're always around sick people, you're going to be sick too.
christina pazsitzky
True dat.
joe rogan
You're going to get sick.
christina pazsitzky
That's so true.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Our complainers are losers.
You hang out with losers, you become a loser.
joe rogan
It's not even just a complainer.
It's a focusing on other people and trying to chip away at them or crack them down or get them to comply or get them to fall in line or get them to follow orders.
There was a lot of that going on during the pandemic.
People yelling at people to put a mask on.
They're across the street.
Like, what are you doing?
christina pazsitzky
Bro, that was wild.
So, like, I went to San Francisco and there's still people wearing N95s in the street, like, walking out in the fresh air.
Like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
They're broken.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it's okay.
You're not gonna...
And also, too, the signs of, like, stop hate, only love or whatever.
And you're like, you're gonna...
San Francisco doesn't need this sign.
Put this sign in like Shreveport, Louisiana or Birmingham.
What is this?
Do you know what I'm saying?
This is the city where it's the most accepting.
What is this propaganda?
We get it.
joe rogan
We're here.
It's just virtue signaling.
christina pazsitzky
It is.
It's bullshit.
I'm over it.
Yeah, hold on.
I gotta smoke.
joe rogan
Get in there.
That's your first cigar, right?
This is your first legitimate cigar.
That's the other thing men like.
A real lighter.
christina pazsitzky
A real lighter.
A crack torch.
joe rogan
A real fucking lighter.
Like a goddamn man.
But, you know, you can only spend so much time thinking about that and spend time thinking about what people like.
And what people like is comedy.
christina pazsitzky
100%.
joe rogan
They like regular stand-up comedy.
They like going for the jokes.
unidentified
Going for it.
joe rogan
Getting big laughs.
christina pazsitzky
Going for it.
joe rogan
You're not going to pretend that everything you say is what you actually fucking mean.
That's not what comedy is, stupid.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you dummy.
joe rogan
Why are you pretending?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you dummy.
This isn't a fucking TED Talk.
unidentified
Exactly.
christina pazsitzky
It is a fucking comedy show.
Relax.
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Also, it's what I like.
christina pazsitzky
Me too.
joe rogan
I like watching it.
My wife said you were fucking hilarious.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I love her.
joe rogan
I wish I had gone out that night.
I was coming back that day.
I didn't know that I'd be back in time.
unidentified
No worries.
joe rogan
But I did get to see Whitney at the Paramount, too.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I love her.
joe rogan
She's amazing.
She's better than I've ever seen her.
She's on fire.
christina pazsitzky
Good.
joe rogan
It was really good shit.
We were laughing fucking hard.
christina pazsitzky
Oh.
joe rogan
It was really good.
It was really loose.
Like, she's just so comfortable now.
You know, sometimes comics, they hit like a stride.
Like, there's something happens to...
I remember running to Sebastian once, when Sebastian hit his stride.
I was like, damn, dude.
Like, you just figured something out, man.
Whatever you did, fucking kudos, because you got a stride now.
christina pazsitzky
And it clicks.
All the pieces come in.
joe rogan
Whitney's always been really good, but right now she's in a stride.
christina pazsitzky
I gotta see her, man.
joe rogan
And it's good stuff, too.
christina pazsitzky
What is she talking about?
joe rogan
Oh, I don't want to fuck up her bits, but like pertinent, you know, issues of the day, life, you know, there's a lot.
It's good.
christina pazsitzky
Good.
joe rogan
It's solid writing.
It's really good shit, but it was really funny.
She's just funny.
She's having fun.
unidentified
Good.
joe rogan
You know, like when a comic like catches that wave, you know, they just start having fun.
christina pazsitzky
I miss fun.
joe rogan
Oh, it's the best.
christina pazsitzky
Don't you miss fun?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that was one of the best things about the store is that we would all be having fun with each other.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
And then we'd all be laughing in the back of the room and having fun.
unidentified
I know.
christina pazsitzky
Well, so this hour that's out now, I... I was like, fuck it, I'm having fun.
And I did it in New York City, and it was like the height of COVID. And anyway, it felt sad.
The city felt sad.
joe rogan
Did the people have to wear masks in the audience?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it was so lame.
And they all got fucking tested.
And then they tested me every two minutes before.
I was like, bro, it's fine.
Even if I am positive, I'm still going to shoot this thing.
This is so much money going into this and people.
You think I'm going to fucking not do this?
Anyway.
I bought the audience shots before I performed on both shows.
Anyway, so I bought this outfit.
joe rogan
Shots of booze?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, tequila.
It's getting fucking faded, bro.
joe rogan
How many people are in the audience?
christina pazsitzky
That was the Gramercy Theater.
I bought the entire theater shots for the first and the second.
joe rogan
That's like thousands of shots.
christina pazsitzky
I don't give a shit.
Wait until you see the next part I did.
Because everybody was all bummed out on the night before.
And I was like, I'm not going to have you guys all bummed out.
Why were they bummed out?
Because it's two years of repression.
And everyone had Omicron.
Everybody was sick or depressed.
So I bought them all shots and then my stylist invoiced Netflix for the outfit that I wore.
And they go, we've never spent this much money on an outfit.
And I was like, what?
Hey, how you like me now, bitch?
So that's a Dolce& Gabbana suit.
And then I had crystals put on it.
joe rogan
Dude, if I saw that picture, I would not know that's you.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
Isn't that great?
joe rogan
What did they do?
christina pazsitzky
Hair and makeup.
I have a team of five Latin gay guys that made me look amazing.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
christina pazsitzky
Isn't that fun?
joe rogan
Like, I never see you dress like that.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Like, that picture, I could tell it's you, right there.
That, I can tell it's you.
And that one there where you got the microphone, the two hands, yeah.
That, I can tell it's you.
But that other one, they picked one where it was like a very odd facial expression.
Almost didn't look like you.
christina pazsitzky
That's the beauty of Netflix though, right?
You see yourself and you're like, is that even me?
joe rogan
They made me look like I was 32 years old.
It's like, what are you doing here?
unidentified
I'm 28 here.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you doing here?
I like the ring, that big pink ring.
unidentified
Isn't that fun?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
christina pazsitzky
But I wanted fun and I wanted to be silly and I don't give a shit anymore because we're all going to die and who fucking cares, right?
joe rogan
My wife said you had one of the best sets she's ever seen.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
She loved it.
christina pazsitzky
I appreciate that.
joe rogan
She said it was so funny.
christina pazsitzky
I love her.
joe rogan
She came back, she was ranting and raving when she came home.
I'm a huge fan of her.
She's the greatest.
It's so nice that you're out here.
I'm so glad you guys came out here.
christina pazsitzky
Me too.
joe rogan
When you guys started coming out here, and then when Tony came out here, and Tim Dillon came out here, and a few other guys like Derek Poston, I was like, wow, I think we can fucking do something here.
And Ron White was here, and Roseanne just did Vulcan the other night.
christina pazsitzky
Tell me about Roseanne.
joe rogan
First, she killed, and she goes into the green room immediately.
unidentified
She goes, I'm fucking moving here!
Of course!
joe rogan
She went on stage.
She hadn't been on stage in years since all the controversy with her show, which was years ago.
She walked on stage and just killed.
She killed for ten solid minutes.
unidentified
God, she's so funny.
joe rogan
I mean killed.
The timing, you would never believe she hadn't been on stage.
You would never believe it.
She was fucking hilarious.
christina pazsitzky
She's the greatest.
joe rogan
And she goes, well, I had some things I wanted to talk about, but I want to fucking do that again.
And she was all fired up.
It was really fun.
It was really interesting because it was interesting to watch all of her excitement come alive, you know, and then go on the stage.
And when she went up there, they went ape shit.
unidentified
Oh, I bet.
joe rogan
They went ape shit.
They went ape shit.
It was wild.
And then she killed.
She killed for 10 minutes.
That's her right there.
christina pazsitzky
I love her so much.
joe rogan
That's her right there.
She's, in my opinion, one of the most important figures in the history of stand-up comedy.
christina pazsitzky
For sure.
joe rogan
Because she was the first woman who killed like a man.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
She killed like she was aggressive.
There was nothing demure and feminine about it.
She hit punchlines.
She grabbed her own pussy when she sang the Star Spangled Banner.
People don't remember that.
christina pazsitzky
Some people think I'm too feminine.
Or too, whatever.
He'll suck my dick.
That was her line, yeah.
I'm too crass.
We'll suck my dick.
God, she's amazing.
joe rogan
She is still, like, better than ever.
I'm telling you, she hadn't done stand-up in forever, and she walked up there like she'd been doing it every weekend.
christina pazsitzky
I love her so much.
joe rogan
It was wild.
It was wild.
And then I go, you really should do a tour.
Oh, absolutely.
She goes, I fucking should.
And I'm like, you should.
And so she has family in this area.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
And if we could talk her into coming here all the time, that would be amazing.
christina pazsitzky
So this is her getting cancelled, though.
I think this is the time she got cancelled.
joe rogan
Yeah, she grabbed her pussy and then spit on the ground.
She was an animal.
I'm telling you, when she first...
Look at all the people clapping.
Meanwhile, people got mad afterwards.
When she first burst on the scene, it was literally like a female Kinnison.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
Because when Kinnison came on the scene, everybody was like, What?
This is comedy, too?
Holy sh- Look at this guy!
This is nuts!
When she burst on the scene, it was a similar thing.
Like, whoa, that's a woman telling you to suck her dick.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah!
joe rogan
What the hell?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, she was with that whole crew, right?
Those were her homies.
Hicks and Kinison.
joe rogan
Oh, well, I'm sure they were all close.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were all in that- The outlaws.
Well, there was a lot of people in that era, that 80s era of comedy that are just goddamn legends.
christina pazsitzky
So I don't know.
I grew up with Roseanne's daughter.
We met in sixth grade.
joe rogan
Yeah, you told me.
That's crazy.
christina pazsitzky
And it was so cool because I got to watch that family.
I think she just had her special come out when I met Jenny, her daughter.
And then I didn't know that people could be fun like that.
I would go over to their house and they would have a fake spaghetti dish that the fork was suspended in the air.
And I was like...
You can do that?
Like, you can just have something silly on your coffee table?
joe rogan
Right.
christina pazsitzky
And they were so fun.
And I would just go there and just watch them talk and banter, and the whole family's so brilliant.
And I was like, oh, this is what life can be like.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can have fun.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, if you're lucky, you know, that's your family.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some people have families where people are just constantly in agony.
That's a fucking bummer when you have a friend and you go to visit them at the house and people yelling at each other and you gotta get them out the door.
unidentified
Come on, let's get out of here.
Shit.
joe rogan
And your kids.
I remember those feelings when I was a kid of not understanding.
First of all, there was no real clear understanding that I was ever going to be an adult.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, that's interesting.
What does that mean?
joe rogan
I never really thought I was an adult.
I had a bit about this at one point in time.
Remember when you used to think that there were real grown-ups?
That one day you'd be like, now I'm a grown-up, and everything makes sense.
If it doesn't, you just get older.
And one day I was at a grocery store, and the guy goes, paper or plastic, sir?
I'm like, oh my god, I'm a sir?
I realized, to him, I think at the time I was in my 20s, I was like, to him, I'm a 28-year-old man, and I'm a man, and he's a kid still.
And I'm like, fuck, we're the same thing.
Then no one knows what's going on.
Everybody is a kid that just got older.
And when you're a little kid and you see adults, maybe your friend's dad's an alcoholic and he comes home screaming and the wife has to lock herself in the closet, that kind of shit.
And you're like, fuck, man.
Could that be me one day?
What if I fell apart?
Could I become a raging crackhead and lose everything?
Could I become a gambling addict?
People, they find out that their dad gambled the house away.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
I know quite a few people like that, where their family was like heavy-duty gamblers.
They lost everything.
christina pazsitzky
That's a horrible addiction.
unidentified
That one's...
christina pazsitzky
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
That one's wild.
That's a wild one.
Because it's not like horniness.
Because you only get it up so many times in a day.
christina pazsitzky
I was just thinking that.
I was like, sex addiction...
Okay, that one's like...
That's going to ruin your life.
But gambling?
That's destruction.
joe rogan
What's the worst one?
Is it cigarettes?
christina pazsitzky
For addiction?
joe rogan
For addictions.
Is cigarettes the worst addiction?
christina pazsitzky
That's bullshit.
unidentified
Who cares?
joe rogan
Yeah, but when you die, you feel so stupid.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, you must.
joe rogan
Like, should have known this.
christina pazsitzky
You've created that...
Yeah.
Okay, so hold on, let's go through them.
joe rogan
Okay.
christina pazsitzky
Okay, sex, drugs.
joe rogan
Yeah, drugs kill you.
Sex doesn't kill you, but it can severely distract you from all the other things you want to do and can be just, you could turn into a creep.
christina pazsitzky
Basically, yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
christina pazsitzky
And that's, well, they're all very circular.
joe rogan
But yeah, there's always a supply.
Yeah, because that can lead you into drugs, too.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Oh, but the sex thing can get you with some Amber Heard bitches.
unidentified
That's right.
christina pazsitzky
And then it's money and...
joe rogan
I would say with Johnny, that's a love addiction.
christina pazsitzky
He wanted his mommy to love him.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Maybe when you grow up famous.
And this is just a theory.
Because I've had a nice trickle into fame.
Meaning that when I was first on TV, nobody had any idea who the fuck I was.
And then I was on news radio, nobody knew who I was.
I could kind of get through, like sometimes people would recognize me, very rarely.
And then Fear Factor was much bigger.
And then UFC stuff and then the podcast is the biggest thing ever.
But of all those things, it's been like a slow...
Like if I just had the podcast when I was 25, I would have fucked my life up.
For sure.
100%.
christina pazsitzky
Because it's too much fame.
joe rogan
It's too crazy.
So Johnny Depp was famous, more famous than I've ever been when he was 20. And he was hot.
unidentified
Hot as fuck.
christina pazsitzky
Like I had a life-size poster of him.
21...
Would you bang him?
joe rogan
We weren't the only one.
christina pazsitzky
Did you too?
joe rogan
I didn't, but I'm aware they existed.
christina pazsitzky
He never has come in his balls.
Like, I don't even think now.
joe rogan
Just gets rid of it all the time.
christina pazsitzky
Dude, he's never been backed up.
And he's probably never had to masturbate.
Like, someone's always there.
Can you imagine how much he was getting laid back then?
joe rogan
Probably preposterous amounts.
christina pazsitzky
Like, I would bet.
joe rogan
Look at him.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my fucking God!
joe rogan
Basically a perfect man.
christina pazsitzky
That's the poster I had for 21 Jump Street.
joe rogan
He's basically perfect.
christina pazsitzky
Dude, he is perfect.
joe rogan
That's a perfect face.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if you're like that when you're- I mean, how old was he then?
unidentified
20?
christina pazsitzky
Dude, he's 20 years old.
joe rogan
Okay.
So what are the chances that that guy has personal sovereignty, a rigid foundation in understanding who he is and how he fits into the world?
christina pazsitzky
Zero point fucking zero at that age?
joe rogan
He's too inconstant in this world of love, Johnny, and fame, and directors and producers, and everywhere he goes, everybody loves him.
And it's not that he's not a good guy.
I'm sure he's a great guy.
It's just that that life, being that famous for that long from the time you're 20, is almost unmanageable.
You need a certain amount of balancing acts in your life to try to mitigate the effects of fame.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I don't think it ever happens when you're young.
christina pazsitzky
There's no way.
unidentified
You're right.
christina pazsitzky
Because the lack of identity...
You have to...
I agree.
The slow and gradual is the way.
And Tom always says that.
He's like, you don't want to get overnight.
You don't want it.
You want it to be slow and steady.
joe rogan
Tom is smart as fuck.
christina pazsitzky
He is so smart.
joe rogan
He's very smart.
christina pazsitzky
And he's very handsome.
And I love his beard and just...
I love how he smells.
unidentified
So...
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you don't want to go like a rocket ship because that's how you get fucked.
joe rogan
No, it's too unmanageable.
It's too unmanageable.
christina pazsitzky
Where we are, I am, I notice the difference.
People treat you differently now.
joe rogan
You've got leaps.
You've hit some new leaps.
What's cool about you guys is it's all internet.
It's all internet.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
You guys are internet famous.
Like, you became famous, like, legitimately successful from a show you created yourself with no input from anyone whatsoever all on the internet.
And I've been through all the iterations.
When you guys had that garage set up.
You know, all of that.
It's like you guys have been doing it and just on that steady grind and all by yourself.
No one would let you do what you're doing.
Nobody.
They would go after episodes.
That thing you were saying about felching, like, listen, we don't need that.
christina pazsitzky
Can you say?
joe rogan
It's just too much.
It's just too much.
And, you know, MeUndies might have a problem with it.
Yeah.
MeUndies doesn't have a problem with anything.
That's a bad example.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, because we did try to do a show, a network show during the pandemic, an animated show.
And you just can't.
joe rogan
The notes.
christina pazsitzky
They suck everything right out of it.
joe rogan
Well, that's their job, though.
Their job is to protect themselves.
They're going to put something on.
They want it to be creative, but not so creative that it possibly could get them fired and then they're going to fuck up their mortgage.
christina pazsitzky
It's the buttered noodles thing.
I don't know.
Someone told me in radio one time, buttered noodles is why everything sucks so bad.
Meaning, everybody will eat buttered noodles.
Nobody really loves buttered noodles.
Maybe one or two guys out there love.
Yeah, my son loves buttered noodles.
But everybody will eat it.
It's okay.
And you can sell ads on it.
And that's the model.
And that's why entertainment has sucked so fucking bad.
Who the fuck is watching TV anymore?
I mean, are you watching...
joe rogan
No.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't.
I don't watch regular TV at all.
christina pazsitzky
No, you're streaming stuff, right?
joe rogan
I don't know who's watching regular TV, but if regular TV put on a good show, I'd watch it.
christina pazsitzky
No shit.
joe rogan
If there was one thing that I found out about on regular TV, it's not like it's impossible.
christina pazsitzky
No, there's some good stuff.
joe rogan
They're going to have to come to a recognition.
They're going to have to have a come to Jesus moment.
Where they're gonna realize, like, your mom's house is out there showing dudes getting their assholes stitched shut.
And you fucking pussies are afraid to say shit on TV. Like, this is nonsense.
christina pazsitzky
It's so weird.
What I was going to say, too, is what I love about podcast fans versus...
Because I've done some television stuff.
I used to be on the E! Channel a lot.
I did Chelsea Lately and those Talking Head shows.
That fan is a casual fan.
They're like, oh, I saw you.
I love you on this thing.
But the podcast fan is like, yo, the other day when you said you took a shit and it was like the bottom of a pudding cup.
Bro, I had that shit, too.
And you're like, yeah, dog.
They know you.
unidentified
Ridiculous example.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
That's our show.
That's the show.
joe rogan
It is.
christina pazsitzky
But it's like, it's the delivery guy.
I mean, I was in like a pharmacy getting drugs like for my sinus infection and some guy stalking, you know, the sodas.
And he's like, Mommy!
And I'm like, yeah, dude, what's up?
joe rogan
The soda stalker knows you?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, like, but that's so real.
unidentified
Mommy.
christina pazsitzky
It's so grassroots like that.
Like where it's, you don't know.
And like, but I've had like brain surgeons listening to the show and just every ilk of life, truck driver, everybody.
And you're like, you like me?
Bro, like, we're dopes.
joe rogan
Segura and I were walking down the street, Segura, me and your husband.
Not that you're not Segura, too.
We were walking down the street in Nashville, and some dude pulls over in his car, and he goes, Rogan, what's up, jeans?
And Tommy points out of it.
It's like, for what he said, Rogan, then he goes, hey, what's up, jeans?
He called him jeans.
It's like those little sort of inside things on your show, calling everybody mommy in jeans.
christina pazsitzky
It's so fun.
joe rogan
It's hilarious, but someone in the wild calling him jeans was really fun.
unidentified
In the wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was fucking fun.
christina pazsitzky
That's all I wanted was to be silly and have fun in life.
And that's all I wanted money for was to create silliness and to create fun and to spend too much money on an outfit that the Netflix executives would be upset about.
And then I wanted a Frankie Goes to Hollywood song, Relax is on there.
And they're like, no, bitch, we're not paying for that.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
They wouldn't pay for Relax?
christina pazsitzky
Well, they paid for a lot of other stuff.
joe rogan
How much does relax cost?
christina pazsitzky
Do you really want to know how much I paid?
So I was like, fuck you, I'm going to buy it because I love this song.
It's about gay guys butt-fucking.
Did you know that?
joe rogan
Relax, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
But I didn't know that growing up.
I was just dancing to it in the clubs with my dad.
joe rogan
When You Want to Come?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
You didn't know that?
christina pazsitzky
You didn't know that?
joe rogan
I knew that.
christina pazsitzky
I didn't know that.
I was a kid.
My dad would take me to bars with him and I would dance.
joe rogan
To that song?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
unidentified
Oof.
christina pazsitzky
Anyway, I paid $60,000 to license Relax.
joe rogan
I think it's worth it.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I agree.
And showbiz is such bullshit.
Did you know that you have to buy your Hollywood star, your Walk of Fame star?
Did you know you buy that?
joe rogan
Yeah, you buy that.
christina pazsitzky
It's so stupid.
It's $40,000.
joe rogan
You buy it, and then they have a little celebration, and no one gives a shit, and then they write a story about how much you suck.
You can keep that.
I'd rather give that to a foster care home.
christina pazsitzky
Seriously?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, that's a weird one, that Hollywood Walk of Fame, because you walk down the walk, and there's people that no one knows.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my gosh, I know.
You're like, huh?
joe rogan
Someone who just paid for that Walk of Fame.
But it used to be a thing.
Like, it used to be, Burt Reynolds, fuck!
That's Burt Reynolds, man!
That's Burt Reynolds' star!
But it's weird.
It's like, what a trick.
Someone just writes Burt Reynolds on the ground.
And you're like, yeah.
Look.
unidentified
He's fucking famous.
Clint Eastwood.
That's his fucking star.
Right here.
joe rogan
Like, that has nothing to do with him.
He's nowhere near there.
It's just his name written on the ground.
unidentified
You're like, oh, look.
Rodney Dangerfield.
I love Rodney.
I love Rodney.
christina pazsitzky
Well, that's the thing I'm realizing is that it's like, it's just, I mean, over time with fame and da-da-da, you're like, oh, it's all smoke and mirrors.
This is bullshit.
It's all fucking, and the more you can just stick to what you enjoy doing, it's going to keep you grounded and have a family and enjoy normal things.
joe rogan
You know what I just thought of?
You know how they do the Walk of Fame and they have the stars?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And in the store, they have the names on the wall?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think at the mothership, I'm going to have stars.
I'll put people's name on a star, like when they're paid regulars, and I'll have a wall of stars.
christina pazsitzky
That's a great idea.
joe rogan
I'm going to steal the Hollywood Walk of Fame shitty idea and steal it from my club.
christina pazsitzky
I think you should.
Yes.
I think you should.
And never take them down, because I hate when clubs take down old people and then replace them.
joe rogan
Why?
unidentified
Do you hate that?
christina pazsitzky
Because I like the history.
I love going to Nashville.
What's that club in Nashville?
joe rogan
Zanies?
Oh, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And seeing like...
joe rogan
Ancient hedgehogs.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I love them, man.
Being like, look at fucking Ron White.
Before Larry the Cable Guy was Larry the Cable Guy.
What was his real name?
joe rogan
Yeah, Dan Whitney.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you're like, there's fucking...
Oh, my God.
And like the old ones, the Gs.
Because you're like, that guy struggled.
And that's before the internet.
So like, you wanted to get booked?
Okay, you got to send a tape, a fucking VHS to the booker.
Call that fool.
Have them fax you some shit over.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, it was so much harder for them.
joe rogan
You had to get on The Tonight Show.
christina pazsitzky
Right.
joe rogan
That's what the big one was back then.
christina pazsitzky
Well, who's The Tonight Show now?
joe rogan
Cheers.
christina pazsitzky
That's what's up, bitch.
Joe Rogan, podcast by day, all night.
All day.
Train by day.
joe rogan
I don't know how that happened.
I literally don't know how that happened.
christina pazsitzky
Can you believe that, bro?
joe rogan
No.
christina pazsitzky
You're bigger than Johnny.
joe rogan
I don't believe anything.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
christina pazsitzky
It doesn't make sense, right?
joe rogan
No, I just keep doing what I'm doing, though.
But whatever it is, I can do it.
This level of chaos that I think is, for a lot of people, it's crippling.
For me, I find it a nice exercise.
christina pazsitzky
For a lot of people, it's crippling.
joe rogan
It is, like that amount of scrutiny about your thoughts and your words and your actions.
It's crippling for some people.
But I overanalyze myself so hardcore that I'm like, yeah, other people are doing it too.
Go ahead.
Get in there.
Go look around.
I'm fucking crazy.
christina pazsitzky
You do overanalyze yourself?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
But I don't think overanalyze myself, but I am a very harsh critic of myself, of everything I do.
I'm not one of those guys that's super happy with anything I do.
I think that's maybe one of the big keys to my success.
I'll celebrate things and people and fun, but I very rarely celebrate myself.
I don't like birthday parties.
I'm not interested.
christina pazsitzky
Me too.
joe rogan
I don't have premieres when I launch a special.
Get the fuck out of here.
It's on TV now.
Go, bye, see ya.
Don't want to talk about it.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and what's the next thing?
What's the next thing?
joe rogan
I'm already on the next thing.
unidentified
Same.
christina pazsitzky
I'm already writing the next hour.
Let's go.
joe rogan
Yeah, if I tape that night, if I tape a special that night, you know what I do?
One of the things that I do?
christina pazsitzky
What?
joe rogan
I write down the bits that I didn't do in the special that I need to start getting better to prepare for the next special.
christina pazsitzky
I love it.
joe rogan
Because I go, okay, here's what we got.
Now, these are the weapons that we have left in the cash.
unidentified
Yep.
christina pazsitzky
Well, that's because you're a perfectionist, and that's why you're good.
You know, Letterman, I was obsessed with David Letterman, and I read a bio about him when I was 17. And it said that every time they were done taping, he would go watch the tape and then flog himself.
joe rogan
He hated himself.
christina pazsitzky
Hated himself.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Hated what he did.
Why did I say it like that?
Why did I do this?
And he was beloved.
christina pazsitzky
Beloved.
joe rogan
But that's why it was so good.
Because it was a guy that was acutely aware of your attention span and wanted to do the very best at every chance and then was always analyzing whether or not he lived up to his own expectations.
Too many people are fucking happy with themselves.
That's why all this body positivity shit and...
christina pazsitzky
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I fucking hate fat models.
I hate them.
I hate fat models.
I hate them.
Listen, you can tell me that fucking men have periods and it's not breastfeeding, it's chest feeding, but don't you take away my supermodels.
Don't you take away Naomi Campbell and Linda Evangelista.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to be represented.
I don't need to be...
Fuck your represent.
I want to see something better than me.
That's why I like skinny, beautiful models.
If I wanted to see fucking hangy dog tits, I would go put a fucking mirror in my shower.
I don't want to see hangy dog tits.
joe rogan
Skinny models to me might as well be dudes.
christina pazsitzky
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
I think they look beautiful.
They have gorgeous faces.
I'm not interested in that at all.
christina pazsitzky
You like fat models?
joe rogan
I like girls with meat on them.
I don't like them fat.
I like them a little thick.
christina pazsitzky
A little thick.
joe rogan
A little thick.
I like a gal who can do some deadlifts.
That's what I like.
christina pazsitzky
Is that what they call slim thick?
joe rogan
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't hang out with they.
But I like women that look strong.
I like women that look fit.
christina pazsitzky
Fitness.
I don't like scrawny.
You don't like the heroin.
joe rogan
Diet looks to me like, are you awake?
Are you okay?
Do you need a nap?
christina pazsitzky
That's not healthy!
joe rogan
It's the same way I'd look at a man who's built like that.
What are you doing with your physical body?
What are you doing with your vessel?
You look like you struggle to pick up a pack of cigarettes.
christina pazsitzky
I don't like that in men.
joe rogan
I don't like it in women either.
Designers like it because those women are essentially hangers.
christina pazsitzky
Oh yeah, it's cheaper because you have to buy...
Do you know that that's why they originally became super skinny?
It was because a size zero takes less fabric to make a dress.
And when Valentino or these...
That's what I heard in some documentary I saw.
I don't know if it's true.
But yeah, it's cheaper to build a size zero dress or whatever than...
joe rogan
I would way rather have a woman that's 10 pounds overweight than 10 pounds underweight.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Way rather.
unidentified
See, I think skinny looks so much better, like...
christina pazsitzky
Like Kate Moss.
joe rogan
Well, you don't want someone that's unhealthy.
And if they're unhealthy in a skinny way or unhealthy in an overweight way, that's what the problem with celebrating that is.
You don't celebrate fat men, where's the fucking Burt Kreischer underwear catalogs?
christina pazsitzky
That's what I was saying!
So let's talk about this.
It's interesting because there's this movement to accept, to celebrate fatness for women.
joe rogan
Not for dudes.
christina pazsitzky
Why is this?
joe rogan
Because men are fat fucks when they're fat.
christina pazsitzky
Nobody wants to fuck them?
joe rogan
No, they're fat.
You're a fat fuck.
You got a big gut.
No one's like body positive than you.
christina pazsitzky
Good for you.
joe rogan
Literally, no one will say you body shamed a man.
If they do, people are like, get the fuck out of here.
Like, it's, you know, I mean, obviously you shouldn't bully people.
But if you are a fat guy with a giant gut and you're wearing underwear and trying to say, accept me for who I am, I'm beautiful.
People are kind of like, no, that's not how it works, stupid.
christina pazsitzky
But why do we feel like that's okay to not allow men?
joe rogan
Because women are more sensitive.
unidentified
Because it hurts us.
joe rogan
We don't want to hurt their feelings.
unidentified
We don't want to hurt your feelings, so I will lie.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I will lie to you.
christina pazsitzky
Have you seen that?
joe rogan
Because I want you to become my friends.
christina pazsitzky
Her little baby feelings.
Yeah, maybe.
Is that what it is?
That's 100% what it is.
Yeah, because we can't take the shaming.
joe rogan
It's being kind.
It's being kind, but it's taken to a place where you're actually aggressive about being kind.
So you're actually putting out more shitty energy than you're removing because it doesn't work.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
So because by yelling at people about body positivity, it doesn't change the way people feel about people that are overweight.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
People that are overweight are repulsive because they're not healthy.
It's a natural biological attraction mechanism that makes you attracted to people that are going to be able to sustain children.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
And have a life and survive hardship and someone who looks like durable.
unidentified
It's unhealthy.
joe rogan
People that are not durable.
christina pazsitzky
It's not healthy to be overweight.
And you cannot tell me, get the fuck out of here.
Oh, that's fine.
They can be overweight.
It's absolutely not true.
It's not true.
And I think, too, it's rooted in pity, which is why I don't like participation awards.
I think that it's rooted in pity.
Have you ever gotten a participation award?
joe rogan
No.
I was born in 1967. They didn't have them back then.
christina pazsitzky
Well, I got one in, like, 86. And my mother framed it.
She didn't know.
She's a foreigner.
But I fucking hated it because it was a mark of shame.
It was like, fuck you.
I know what that is.
joe rogan
Right.
christina pazsitzky
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you want to participate in something, participate in winning, you fucking loser.
Like, to me, it just made me like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
I've got a stack of these medals from my Taekwondo days.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah?
joe rogan
And to this day, I look at the bronze and the silver ones, I'm like...
I don't like them.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, they upset you.
They make me sad.
joe rogan
Like, you fucking loser.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was like 18. I'm looking at this thing, I'm like, you fucking loser.
unidentified
It's such an achievement to even win that in Taekwondo.
christina pazsitzky
It's a big deal.
joe rogan
Nope, not to me.
christina pazsitzky
But not to you.
We're self-loathing.
joe rogan
But participation trophies are worse than that.
It's like, you did it.
You got out there.
Here's a useless fucking plaque.
christina pazsitzky
And then, did you know that Victoria's Secret hired their first Down Syndrome model?
Down to fuck, am I right?
joe rogan
She's actually very pretty.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, she actually is pretty.
joe rogan
Which is crazy.
Here's the question.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
What would people think if a normal chromosome man decided to start having relations with her?
Would people accept that?
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Is that legal?
No.
christina pazsitzky
That's what I was wondering.
joe rogan
Is it legal?
christina pazsitzky
This is my problem with the model, the Down Syndrome model.
It's not that...
Whatever.
She is pretty.
She looks great.
She's got a better body than me.
joe rogan
Phenomenal body, right?
christina pazsitzky
She's fucking banging.
It's that issue of the capacity to make such a decision.
Because you know those girls are objectified.
They're sexualized.
You're right.
joe rogan
100%.
unidentified
That's the gig.
joe rogan
You're sexualizing someone who you're not even allowed to have sex with.
It's almost like sexualizing a child.
christina pazsitzky
It is.
joe rogan
In that, like, if you're a man, so you're an accountant, Bob the accountant, normal 35-year-old single man, and he meets this Down Syndrome Victoria Secrets model, and you hang out with her, and you're like, dude, she's surprisingly cool, and we just fuck like wild animals.
People would go, what are you talking about, Bob?
You are not having sex with a Down Syndrome woman.
That's what she wants.
That's what I want.
christina pazsitzky
She's a model, bro.
joe rogan
I don't see the problem.
All her fucking pictures are her in her underwear.
She looks good.
Show me the photos of the woman in the Down Syndrome.
unidentified
She's hot.
Looks like she has a boyfriend.
No.
joe rogan
Does she have a Down Syndrome boyfriend?
Yeah, I think you have to.
christina pazsitzky
You have to.
joe rogan
But that's what I'm saying.
christina pazsitzky
You have to, because it's not fair.
Okay, good.
Okay, good.
That's equal.
joe rogan
Oh, they're both beautiful.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's good.
Let me see what she looks like, though.
christina pazsitzky
No, she's pretty.
joe rogan
She's very pretty.
Like, very pretty.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
But there's the thing.
Like, if a regular man had a relationship with her, it would be really creepy.
unidentified
Which is why I have issue with the Forrest Gump film.
Right.
joe rogan
But it's a guy.
It's a guy.
It's okay.
christina pazsitzky
It's okay to...
joe rogan
Yeah, a girl could have a Down Syndrome guy boyfriend.
If you have a Down Syndrome guy boyfriend, what if you have a giant Icelandic Down Syndrome man as your boyfriend?
He's basically a giant white gorilla that just lays pipe to you all day.
christina pazsitzky
It would be ideal.
joe rogan
Because they're horny all the time.
I know, I know.
You know Bobby Kelly?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
Bobby Kelly and I did gigs together back when he was a counselor for Down Syndrome kids.
So he would work in this house with Down Syndrome people.
So where he lived, he lived in this house with people.
And Bobby told me they're always trying to fuck.
christina pazsitzky
Yo, I know.
I've heard this before.
joe rogan
They just want to fuck all the time, which is normal.
They have normal balls and normal testosterone production, and that's what the average man is.
But they don't seem to think there's anything wrong with wanting to fuck all the time.
christina pazsitzky
They fuck hard, bro.
Yeah, I know.
I've heard this.
joe rogan
No, I had a friend that worked- Is there down syndrome porn, and is that going to be on the next to your mom's house?
Oh, don't say oh no.
christina pazsitzky
Do we really need that?
joe rogan
Oh yes, you mean oh yes, right?
christina pazsitzky
Do we need that tab on Pornhub?
I was going to start looking, but I'll let them find it.
joe rogan
Listen, they're not making it.
They're just journalists.
christina pazsitzky
They're just journalists.
joe rogan
We're out there reporting from the field.
Apparently, there's some Down Syndrome porn.
Now, should you have to be Down Syndrome to get it?
And could you take a test and just pretend you're dumb?
And will they let you?
Well, it doesn't seem like you have Down Syndrome, but you're pretty fucking stupid, so go ahead and jerk off to this.
christina pazsitzky
Well, that's what this is.
It's permission to masturbate to the mentally challenged.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Are you allowed to masturbate to that Victoria's Secret's catalog because the Down Syndrome lady's on it?
christina pazsitzky
That's the real issue.
And the answer is yes.
And Victoria's Secret wants you to masturbate to the Down Syndrome girl.
Talk about inclusivity.
Finally.
unidentified
I found it.
christina pazsitzky
You found it?
joe rogan
Down Syndrome porn?
Is there a website?
unidentified
A whole website?
I don't know because I don't know.
joe rogan
I've never heard of this site.
Are we going to have to edit this out?
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Maybe just look, don't say it.
christina pazsitzky
It explains why she falls for the pizza delivery guy thing.
unidentified
I don't know what kind of website that is.
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Just the heading.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, it's heavy.
This is where we get a lot of our clips for Your Mom's House Live.
This website.
Oh, you're not going to show it?
unidentified
No, no.
I've never even heard of it.
christina pazsitzky
Can I see the downs part?
unidentified
Well, this one wasn't...
joe rogan
Keep it on her face.
Keep the camera on her face and just show the Downs porn.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, no.
So who's Downs here, though?
That guy.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's a regular woman and a Downs lady?
unidentified
Yeah, it says he saved up money, though.
christina pazsitzky
See, it's always the guy.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
christina pazsitzky
It's always the guy that...
joe rogan
Poor fella.
christina pazsitzky
Oh no, I don't like that.
Oh, he's really...
joe rogan
So he's trying to jack himself off.
She looks super pumped with her life choices.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I don't like this.
This isn't as fun as I thought it would be.
joe rogan
Look at how he's jerking off, too.
unidentified
I don't want to watch it either.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's deformed.
It's more than that.
Yeah.
He got the full Monty.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, he's not like the model kind.
joe rogan
No.
No, not at all.
The model thing is weird because male models have to have six packs and they have to look like Johnny Depp.
They have to be chiseled, beautiful.
But female models, there's a new category.
I don't have any problem with it.
As long as we're not pretending that there's something...
As long as they're not saying there's something wrong with being the other kind of model.
Out of all the two, both of them are unhealthy.
It's unhealthy to starve yourself, and it's unhealthy to be obese.
Good argument.
Both of them are unhealthy.
christina pazsitzky
Yes, I like that.
joe rogan
Both of them are unrealistic and unreasonable, and both of them are not what men want for the most part.
christina pazsitzky
You know what men want?
unidentified
Curves.
christina pazsitzky
Whoever the fuck is there.
joe rogan
No, we like curves.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, but truly, I've never had a man...
I had one boyfriend in the past who was like, you gain weight.
And I was like, go fuck your mother, you're out of here.
One guy.
He was also the dirtbag who didn't call me for four days and then rearranged his room on crystal meth.
joe rogan
Oh, meth heads.
christina pazsitzky
So there you go.
But yeah, most men are very forgiving of women's bodies, I've found.
In real life, at least the dudes I've been with for the most part, extremely forgiving.
joe rogan
I think the natural inclination is that men like women with a little softness to them, little curves to them.
christina pazsitzky
To be chicks.
joe rogan
They're like curves.
Yeah.
But the stick thing is like you're not eating, you're smoking cigarettes, you're doing Adderall, like you're not normal.
That's not healthy.
christina pazsitzky
It's not healthy, but it does.
joe rogan
Unless you just have some crazy metabolism or you're super athletic and this is just like what you look like.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But athletic girls look more stout, you know?
They're like CrossFit girls.
They develop thighs and calf muscles.
christina pazsitzky
You like that, and that's your jam.
joe rogan
I like them healthy.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Heart meaty.
joe rogan
I like a girl who can help me carry a couch.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah!
joe rogan
You know, and you don't want a man that's going to have a fucking heart attack.
christina pazsitzky
No, that's a thing.
joe rogan
You see a guy that's that fat, and you know they have sleep apnea, and they're just lying there with their big purple face, choking on their own tongue.
christina pazsitzky
Choking on their own tongue!
joe rogan
I mean, could you fucking imagine what Burt snores like?
christina pazsitzky
I was going to take it there, and then I was like, should we fat shame Burt?
joe rogan
It's not going to work.
christina pazsitzky
It hasn't worked.
joe rogan
He gets so much love from being fat.
When he takes his shirt off, it's probably the biggest pop in all of comedy.
christina pazsitzky
I know, I know.
joe rogan
When he goes out there and says like this to everybody, and then he takes his shirt off and puts his baseball hat back on, they go, yeah!
Shane Gillis told me it's the loudest pop he's ever heard in his life.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I believe it.
Well, it's fun.
It's a good time.
I don't want a fat, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Here's the good news.
Netflix let me fat Shane Burt in my special.
joe rogan
Oh, you fat Shane Burt in your special?
christina pazsitzky
They didn't flag it.
joe rogan
You're allowed to.
Look, he's pregnant.
christina pazsitzky
They flagged everything else.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's pregnant.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, stop.
joe rogan
Look at him.
christina pazsitzky
I don't want...
joe rogan
He's doing great, though, but here's the thing.
That pregnant guy is out there fucking killing it.
He's selling out everywhere he goes.
christina pazsitzky
Have you seen the pregnant guy on Instagram?
unidentified
Okay.
christina pazsitzky
Are we allowed to talk about that?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're allowed to talk about that in this show.
Yeah, there's pregnant men.
Isn't that like the cover of some magazine?
It had a pregnant man.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
joe rogan
Can we find that, Jamie?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was something for the first time.
A pregnant man is on the cover of a certain magazine.
christina pazsitzky
I follow one on Instagram.
I'm obsessed with this.
I'm endlessly intrigued by this whole gender non-binary stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do you think?
christina pazsitzky
Truly, it's not pretty.
joe rogan
No, there's a cover of a magazine.
It said something for the first time.
I think I might have saved it because I'm twisted.
Let me find it here.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
I think it's like.00001 of the population, right?
joe rogan
It's a small percentage of the population that is a pregnant man.
But they have their own emoji on my iPhone now.
Did you guys fucking rally for this?
How easily did Apple give in to your demands?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I think what...
I mean, I'm a pragmatist.
I believe that if the majority of people, of humans, are doing stuff, the utility would be to build society around what the majority are doing.
So I think this way of thinking, we're like, well, no, but there's like two people that have this, so let's completely rearrange.
I don't know.
Is it working?
And then to bully you into conformity, and if you don't, then you're hateful.
I'm like, I'm not so sure that's accurate.
joe rogan
It's happening so fast, and it's at such a rabid level.
Sort of fever pitch of compliance.
I didn't want everyone to comply or you're a monster or you're a piece of shit or you're transphobic.
That to me, if I was removed from my own emotions and my own culture and I said, what is happening here?
Well, there's some sort of a process of getting people to stop being primates and stop being sexual and stop thinking about like normal Sort of biological gender representation, like X and Y chromosome equals male.
XX equals female.
And it seems like, if I looked at something, what's happening, I'd go, there's some sort of a declining urgency of sexual orientation and even the ability to biologically reproduce by sex.
Like, I think they're setting us up.
I think the universe is setting us up to become some new thing.
Some sort of genderless...
christina pazsitzky
Cyborgs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Elon Musk.
joe rogan
He knows.
It's just what technology is doing.
And it seems like what's happening with people in our...
Ever more hungry desire for technology is we're doing a lot of things that seem to be diminishing our sex.
There's things called phthalates.
There's this woman who did this book, Dr. Shanna Swan, she did this book called Countdown.
And she's an environmental epidemiologist.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I saw this lady.
She was on your show.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
She deals with the effects of the environment on people's reproductive systems and people's hormonal systems.
And one of the things that she found was that phthalates, which come from plastics and a bunch of other pesticides in particular, a bunch of different things, chemicals from petrochemicals that have gotten into our bodies, Have diminished our penis sizes, diminished our sperm counts, diminished...
Sperm counts are down like 50% since the 1950s.
What?
Yeah, penis sizes are shrinking, taints are shrinking.
So one of the best ways in mammals to tell the difference between a male and a female is the taint size.
Taints in males are 50 to 100% larger than the females.
And when mammals are exposed to phthalates, when the mother has the baby in the womb, the phthalates cause the taint to shrink.
And they keep shrinking and shrinking.
So they keep shrinking over time.
So we're becoming genderless, strange sort of things biologically, but we're not recognizing it because they didn't even know that this...
I think Dr. Shana Swan said it was 2015 when they first realized what was happening with phthalates and that phthalates were having this impact on the reproductive systems.
That while women were pregnant, their exposure and the amount of phthalates they had in their blood was directly represented by the decreasing of the testosterone in the males, shrinking of the penis, shrinking of the testicles, and also big uptick in miscarriages for the females.
So less viable, less sexual, less viable, less hormonal.
christina pazsitzky
We're turning into seahorses.
joe rogan
We're turning into aliens.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I believe it.
joe rogan
I really think that's what it is.
You know, we were talking last night, we were talking about these Russian wrestlers.
Tony was making fun of me that I have a hairy back.
You too?
christina pazsitzky
I don't think I've seen it.
joe rogan
Want to see it?
christina pazsitzky
I'll show you.
joe rogan
Anyway, afterwards.
But I go, dude, that's not even hairy.
Have you ever seen Russian wrestlers that look like male stage 3?
christina pazsitzky
Google Russian wrestlers.
joe rogan
Right before they hit stage 5, which is like a human.
They hit stage 3. Oh, right, the chart.
Yeah, the evolutionary chart.
There's a lot of Russian men.
That have fucking hairy shoulders, like all over their shoulders, all over their arms.
They basically look like fucking werewolves.
christina pazsitzky
Holy shit, dude, no lie.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a famous guy.
That's George the Animal Steel.
But yeah, he was completely hairy everywhere.
Look at that Russian guy.
Yo, that's what's up.
Look at those shoulders.
christina pazsitzky
That's insane.
Ain't no phthalates in their diet.
Is that what you're saying?
joe rogan
Look at the fucking hair on that guy.
I mean, you can't tell me that that guy is not like...
Let's say it's not like a five-stage evolutionary trail.
It's a thousand stages.
That guy's several hundred stages before most people.
christina pazsitzky
He's a gorilla.
joe rogan
He's a gorilla.
He's probably strong as fuck.
Look at him in that headlock in the far right corner.
Click on that.
christina pazsitzky
That's high-ass testosterone.
joe rogan
You do not want that guy squeezing your neck.
Look at him.
Look at those shoulders.
christina pazsitzky
Look at that back.
unidentified
No, bro.
christina pazsitzky
Look at him.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's certain hairy humans that remind you of our past.
They're a little window into, like, savages of the past.
christina pazsitzky
I love this.
My husband's very hairy, too, and I enjoy it.
He was the first hairy guy I was ever with.
I was always with these- Twinks?
Well, no, with men that wore makeup and velvet skirts, they're goth.
I think now they're called trans, but back then they were just goth.
And, yeah, they're very beta.
And I just fell in love with Tommy for being alpha.
But I was going to bring up, have you seen the new The Batman?
joe rogan
Yes.
christina pazsitzky
How do you feel?
joe rogan
I loved it.
christina pazsitzky
You did?
joe rogan
You hated it?
christina pazsitzky
I hated it.
joe rogan
Tell me why.
christina pazsitzky
Okay.
First of all, he's total limp dick.
Like, he doesn't even bang fucking Zoe Kravitz at the end, who's like the hot ass.
joe rogan
He kissed her at least.
christina pazsitzky
Did they French?
Did he French-er?
joe rogan
I mean, it was like a real kiss.
christina pazsitzky
Very chaste.
So here's what I think.
He's got no dick and balls.
He's a reluctant...
joe rogan
Do you really think he has no dick and balls?
christina pazsitzky
No dick and balls.
Because he's a reluctant hero.
And nothing aggravates me more.
Here's who Batman is.
He's fucking Bruce Wayne.
He's a multi-millionaire.
He enjoys being Batman.
He enjoys his cars.
He enjoys being the powerful hero.
He puts on the suit, I'm Batman.
Remember fucking Vicki Vale and the guy, who's the, Beetlejuice, when Beetlejuice was Batman?
joe rogan
Yeah, Michael Keaton.
christina pazsitzky
Michael Keaton crushed it, and he crushed puss, and he was a virile male.
This Batman is like, I've got fucking feelings.
His hair is in his eyes, and like, what are you doing?
Wipe your pussy and go be a hero.
Same with Spider-Man.
Did you see that horse shit?
joe rogan
You didn't like Spider-Man either?
christina pazsitzky
They're all fucking crying the whole time.
unidentified
I loved it.
christina pazsitzky
Why are they crying?
joe rogan
There's a multiverse.
There's multiple Spider-Mans.
christina pazsitzky
And they're all fucking having their periods at the same time.
I don't want to see it.
Show me men.
I want my heroes.
joe rogan
Do you like the Hulk?
unidentified
I love the Hulk.
christina pazsitzky
Because that's the dichotomy of human nature.
That's Jekyll and Hyde.
It's a very traditional story.
I love the Hulk.
His big green Hulk cock.
I love him.
Look at him.
Michael Keaton.
I liked him.
Oh, you know who I love?
The Christian Bale.
joe rogan
Christian Bale was the best Batman.
christina pazsitzky
That was the best one.
joe rogan
He was pretty good.
I liked Robert Pattinson as Batman.
I thought it was good.
christina pazsitzky
I loved Robert Pattinson as the vampire.
joe rogan
He was great in that too.
christina pazsitzky
I loved him.
joe rogan
It's suspension of disbelief.
You're watching a goofy ass movie about a weird fake world.
Where a guy can shoot a grappling hook to the top of a building and it pulls him up.
There's a lot that you just take for granted as nonsense.
The thing about Batman has always been that Batman was just a rich guy that had access to all this money so he could buy all this shit and do these things.
It's hot.
Which works in a comic book.
It really works in a comic book.
Because in a comic book, you kind of got free license for him to create a fucking nuclear reactor that he could put on a jet ski.
You know what I mean?
Batman has all the money.
He can do whatever he wants.
But in movies, you're like, why is he kicking everybody's ass?
How come nobody gets him?
How come three guys don't gang up on him, take him down and stab him?
christina pazsitzky
And they're shooting rounds and rounds at him.
No one in fucking Gotham can shoot a gun.
joe rogan
He's bulletproof.
You just don't shoot him in the chin.
christina pazsitzky
Oh shit, that's right.
unidentified
Question.
So Batman could have been Iron Man, but he chose not to be?
joe rogan
Because that's all Iron Man is.
That's a very good point.
unidentified
That's a good point.
joe rogan
Very good point.
I don't think Batman is quite as smart as Iron Man.
jamie vernon
He doesn't have the heart thing, which keeps us a big thing, but the money.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Iron Man is smarter.
Tony Stark is like a legit super genius.
christina pazsitzky
And he gets laid.
joe rogan
He hired people to make it, I guess.
Yeah, Tony Stark is a guy who became rich.
What do you want?
christina pazsitzky
I want water.
joe rogan
Oh, that's water in there.
Tony Stark is a guy who became rich because he was brilliant.
christina pazsitzky
Mmm, I like that.
joe rogan
The Batman guy, he's just rich.
Yeah, inherited.
Yeah, he got it from his parents.
unidentified
But also...
joe rogan
Bruce Wayne is not like a brilliant...
He's not a super genius.
christina pazsitzky
That's a good point.
joe rogan
That's the most important...
christina pazsitzky
But here's the deal.
So I also...
I have a very hard time feeling bad for rich characters.
Like, oh, I'm an orphan.
unidentified
Well, who cares?
christina pazsitzky
We all are, okay?
A lot of us had shitty parents.
So you've got millions of dollars.
Go have fun.
Go have fun with this Batman.
I found him to be very just fey and like, I don't want to fight.
joe rogan
But no one was having fun in the whole movie.
The whole movie was my mom died.
Everyone's dead.
Coke's everywhere.
That's what I'm saying.
But the whole movie was dark.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it's a fucking bummer, man.
I don't want to be bummed out.
I want fun.
Show me some life.
joe rogan
Who's your favorite superhero character in films?
That's such a good fucking question.
christina pazsitzky
I don't like Superman because he's too American pie.
I like a little darkness.
joe rogan
My favorite's Blade.
christina pazsitzky
Go ahead.
Blade.
Can you bring up Blade?
I'm not even sure I've seen this.
Yeah, yeah, he's dope.
joe rogan
He killed vampires.
christina pazsitzky
I like vampires.
joe rogan
I'm 100% on his side.
christina pazsitzky
Okay.
joe rogan
Plus, he's a daywalker.
He's part vampire.
christina pazsitzky
How does this work?
So how does this work?
joe rogan
His mother was bit while he was in the womb.
christina pazsitzky
So he can walk during the day?
joe rogan
Yes, he can walk during the day, but he's got vampire powers.
But they have to keep giving him injections of blood because he wants to kill people and eat them.
But he doesn't because he's a good guy.
And he knows karate.
christina pazsitzky
Dude, I can see all of this lining up for you.
joe rogan
It's my 100% favorite of all those things.
I like that, dude.
Wesley Snipes was fucking badass as Blade, too.
It was perfect, because I was a fan of Blade the comic book, where he had teak weapons.
He used a really hard wood, because vampires, you had to put a stake through their heart, so you had teak stakes that he carried with him.
He would stab these teak knives.
christina pazsitzky
I thought teak was bullshit wood.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a new blade coming.
christina pazsitzky
There's a new Top Gun coming out.
I'm so excited for that.
joe rogan
A new Top Gun with Tom Cruise.
christina pazsitzky
Maverick.
joe rogan
He still looks good.
What is he doing?
I want to talk to his guy.
christina pazsitzky
What is he doing?
unidentified
What is he doing?
joe rogan
He's 80,000 years old.
He looks great.
christina pazsitzky
I think they do Botox and filler.
joe rogan
A lot more than that.
He was a man when I was a boy.
And he still looks great.
Still got a nice full head of dark hair.
This is wild.
christina pazsitzky
Can we look at him?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's beautiful.
We need to look at him.
christina pazsitzky
And Brad Pitt.
joe rogan
What is he, 58?
christina pazsitzky
How the fuck does he look so good?
joe rogan
How old is he?
jamie vernon
59. He turned 60 July 3rd.
joe rogan
Turned 60 in a month or two.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Look at him.
christina pazsitzky
He's stunning.
joe rogan
Pretty goddamn good looking.
christina pazsitzky
It's got to be like surgery.
joe rogan
And he's also doing his own fucking stunts.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
Do you see that?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Where he broke his ankle to smithereens where he jumped from building to building?
You didn't see that?
christina pazsitzky
No.
But I know he does.
Yeah, I do.
unidentified
Let's see it.
joe rogan
Want to watch his ankle break?
christina pazsitzky
Yep.
But I know that he does his own stunts, which is nutty.
Why?
joe rogan
He does motorcycle stunts.
He does everything.
He learned how to fly a helicopter so he could do helicopter stunts.
I'm not kidding.
christina pazsitzky
It's crazy.
joe rogan
He did.
He's in Fucking Animal.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
He's loony as fuck, alright?
He's crazy as cat shit.
But that guy...
christina pazsitzky
What's going on?
Let's talk about him.
joe rogan
Watch this.
Look at this.
christina pazsitzky
Look at this motherfucker.
Oh yeah, I have seen this.
Fuck!
joe rogan
So he barely made it there and he landed with his ankle and slammed his body into it and destroyed his ankle.
christina pazsitzky
Fuck, dude.
joe rogan
Apparently just cracked the shit out of his ankle on impact.
I guess he probably wanted to make it all the way to the other side, but didn't quite get there.
Look at that.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
That's a destroyed ankle, son.
christina pazsitzky
That's gone, homie.
joe rogan
That's a destroyed ankle.
That's so much force, too, to go that far.
unidentified
He didn't need to do that.
christina pazsitzky
He didn't need to do that.
joe rogan
But look, he fucking powered through like a savage.
christina pazsitzky
And then he did the rest of the scene, yeah.
joe rogan
Look, even with his fucked up ankle, he ran off.
christina pazsitzky
You know how hard that is to do?
unidentified
Animal.
joe rogan
Animal.
He's the best.
He's the best at those kind of movies.
And he was really good as the vampire in Lestat.
He was a way better vampire.
christina pazsitzky
You know, you're talking to my school.
joe rogan
Interview with the vampires?
christina pazsitzky
Let's talk about this.
I was very reluctant.
Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise to be vampires.
I'm recovering goth.
But they crushed it.
unidentified
They crushed it.
christina pazsitzky
They crushed it.
I have to give it to them.
joe rogan
That movie was great.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
And Brad Pitt, my husband got to meet him in real life and he looks stunning.
joe rogan
I don't think Anne Rice, I'm sure he does, I'm sure Anne Rice, I think she was reluctant to have Tom Cruise do it initially too.
christina pazsitzky
Of course, every goth was like...
joe rogan
Because Lestat was like this looming, imposing, demonic vampire figure in the books.
christina pazsitzky
Did you read the books?
joe rogan
I read the books, yeah.
Yeah, I read the books.
Yeah, Interview with the Vampire was amazing.
christina pazsitzky
Are you kidding me right now?
unidentified
No, no, no.
christina pazsitzky
I would never, if someone said a million dollars Joe Rogan's read Interview with the Vampire, I'd be like, never.
joe rogan
Anne Rice is a fascinating character.
christina pazsitzky
She's dead now.
joe rogan
Yeah, unfortunately.
christina pazsitzky
I really liked her, too.
joe rogan
She was great.
She wasn't very healthy.
Oh.
But she wrote some great stuff.
But she also, like, sometimes you'd hear opinions on things.
You're like, oh, my God, this bitch is crazy.
christina pazsitzky
What was her deal?
unidentified
I didn't even know that.
christina pazsitzky
I love hearing this stuff.
joe rogan
I forget what, like, I'd read commentary that she'd said.
She was just, like, a little unhinged.
But, I mean, that's what you'd expect from someone.
Like, what was she controversial about?
What was controversial about Anne Rice?
christina pazsitzky
Because I know J.K. Rowling gets shit for...
joe rogan
She gets shit for saying that men can't be pregnant.
And I don't know why she insists on saying that.
It's so rude.
All it is is hurtful.
christina pazsitzky
It's so rude.
joe rogan
And I've personally stopped watching the Harry Potter movies because of this.
christina pazsitzky
And witchcraft, too.
It's anti-Christian, so I agree.
joe rogan
Harry Potter is witchcraft.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
It is anti-Christian.
christina pazsitzky
It's anti-Christian.
joe rogan
Anti-Christian and anti-trans.
The one place where they cross lines.
christina pazsitzky
Magic is demonic.
joe rogan
I mean, when you read the actual things he said, you're like, who's pushing back against this?
Especially because the fucking Penn State swimmer is the most, or UPenn swimmer is the most nutty one.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, is this the one where it's like a dude that won out?
Oh, no, no.
Were they finally pushing back on that?
joe rogan
It's this, no, well, I mean, she is still winning world championships when she was number 462 in the country as a biological male.
And then a year later, a fucking year later, she's number one as a female who still has a penis.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what?
And if you get complained because she's walking around the locker room, you're transphobic.
Oh, what happened?
Like, imagine if you woke up, you feel like Rip Van Winkle.
And you're like, I'm going to take a nap around 2015. I just feel a little sleepy.
And something happened.
And seven years later, you're like, hey guys, what's going on?
Why is that dude swimming with ladies?
christina pazsitzky
I feel, okay, I'm like that every morning with Tom.
I'm like, Tom, did you know that hiking is racist now?
joe rogan
Hiking is racist?
christina pazsitzky
Yo, Google that, young Jamie.
Hiking is not inclusive.
Hiking has an inclusivity problem.
This article came out during the pandemic.
Yoga is racist, even though it was invented in India.
I mean, there's all these articles, and I'm like, am I in the fucking upside down?
joe rogan
Well, you also have to recognize that a lot of what you see when you read those articles is just people trying to get attention.
They don't even believe what they're saying.
christina pazsitzky
Here, the unbearable whiteness of hiking and how to solve it.
joe rogan
How do you solve the whiteness of hiking?
Imagine that there's a problem with people Based on the melanin content of their skin, we're just out enjoying nature together.
And wouldn't that be an inclusive thing?
It's one thing where your race doesn't matter at all.
You're all just walking up this mountain and enjoying nature.
It shouldn't be a consideration even slightly.
Hiking is not just for able-bodied white people anymore.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, was there a movement that we were like, hey guys, you can't hike here if you're not?
joe rogan
Come on, man.
It's stupid.
It's stupid as fuck.
It's stupid.
If you go on the trails, this is not real.
If you go on trails, hiking trails, you see people of all ethnicities and backgrounds.
They're just enjoying nature together and it's a bonding experience for folks because there's something very humbling about walking Over the top of a hill and you're seeing a canyon and it's beautiful and you see people coming the other way and you're like, hey, what's up?
It's a bonding thing.
It's one of those things that's so humbling in its vast scale and magnificence and its natural beauty that it makes you nicer.
It makes you feel better.
It's like a little natural medicine.
So everyone's out there enjoying natural medicine.
It doesn't have to do with white people.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Come on.
Tibetans are the best fucking hikers alive.
They are!
The people from Nepal and the people that take people up the Himalayas are the best fucking hikers that have ever lived!
They're the best!
christina pazsitzky
Or is it pronounced Himalayas?
Oh yes, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're the best.
They're the best and they're not white.
So hiking's not white.
It's not white, it's human.
christina pazsitzky
You just disproved this shit, man!
joe rogan
Hiking's human and especially at the highest level.
Unfortunately, those people are known for being hired by white people.
That's what it is.
To take them up the Himalayas.
christina pazsitzky
Have you done that yet?
joe rogan
Fuck that.
That's not on the menu.
unidentified
How do you know if you have it in you, if you could do it?
joe rogan
You need to do it to prove it.
christina pazsitzky
I don't need to do it to prove it.
I know I'm not interested in it.
I'm not interested in Himalayas.
That's what Ram Dass used to call it.
The Himalayas.
I go, is that how you fucking say this?
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to have a joke about it.
christina pazsitzky
About the Himalayas?
joe rogan
Yeah, about how there's dead bodies on the way up there.
unidentified
And you're like, you have to have such incredible arrogance.
joe rogan
Because it's so cold that they have to leave the dead bodies.
So as you're walking up this trail to the top of this mountain, hoping to be one of the people that makes it, you get to look to the left and the right of you, and there's dead bodies.
christina pazsitzky
It's wild, dude.
joe rogan
There's dead bodies from the 30s.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yes.
christina pazsitzky
And they're not decomposed because it's super cold?
joe rogan
Frozen solid like a rock and they look like they're made out of plaster.
They're white, pale white frozen.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
You see their skin, like their clothing has been pushed away a little bit by time and worn out and you can see part of their skin.
Yeah, there's people that they know who the person is.
Like, it's a famous hiker.
Shut up.
No, I'm not bullshitting at all.
I was obsessed with this for months.
I was reading stories about hikers.
Look at this.
These are hikers' bodies.
christina pazsitzky
And they just leave them there?
joe rogan
Yep, they just leave them there.
Look at that one.
Look at his skin.
christina pazsitzky
Bro, pick him up.
Why don't they take these fools out?
joe rogan
You can't because the air is so thin.
It's so dangerous that to bring that guy down would risk people's lives.
Because it's so hard to get up there.
And they just leave him up there.
I think they've removed some of them.
christina pazsitzky
This shit makes me so angry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You know what else infuriates me?
I was watching a documentary about this guy that free climbing...
joe rogan
Oh, Alex Honnold?
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've had him on a few times.
christina pazsitzky
Shit makes me so fucking mad because I'm like, what are you doing?
It's just, you know, he's like, and then I put my finger in the crevice.
I don't have any back.
It's like...
joe rogan
Not only that, sometimes it gets tricky.
Sometimes it's like I have to lift my foot up and get it to the spot or I'm going to die.
I have to lift my foot up over here and push off.
Look at that.
unidentified
What the fuck?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, this guy.
unidentified
Burrow.
christina pazsitzky
What are you doing, homie?
unidentified
Just what that looks like is just burrow.
christina pazsitzky
His little pants are falling down.
His dick's going to pop.
joe rogan
He's got dick root.
He's showing dick root.
He's showing some dick root.
christina pazsitzky
He's in good shape.
He should.
He looks great.
unidentified
Cheers.
joe rogan
Super, super, super nice guy.
He's been on the podcast a few times.
I think three times.
I really enjoy talking to him.
christina pazsitzky
So what's his...
It gets him excited to do this.
joe rogan
First of all, he loves being in nature, and I think there's this accomplishment thing that comes with being able to climb something with no ropes.
Because there's no if.
It's just must do.
Must do for to live.
You see people on those ropes, sometimes they slip and they fall off.
Would you have slipped and fallen off if there was no rope?
Right, right.
These fucking crazy assholes!
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Is this the guy that got arrested?
This is Alex.
christina pazsitzky
This is wild, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, that's him too.
christina pazsitzky
Look at him.
He's got his little chalky hands.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he's climbing a fucking building.
He's so high.
That's so crazy.
christina pazsitzky
How old is this guy?
joe rogan
It says climbs halfway up New Jersey skyscraper.
Why half?
How does he get back down?
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
joe rogan
What happens then?
Do you slide down?
My hands are so sweaty.
christina pazsitzky
I know, I know, I know, I know, I don't I don't like it.
unidentified
It gives me anxiety.
christina pazsitzky
It gives me diarrhea.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't want to see this, Jenny.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
Take it away.
Wait, wait.
But, Joe, have you seen the documentary about the divers who rescue the children trapped in the tie?
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen that.
christina pazsitzky
Tommy made me watch it.
He's like, you're going to love it.
It's very inspirational.
I don't like children getting fucked with ever.
Children are trapped inside of a fucking cave.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
They find divers who are like hobbyist divers, like a bunch of old white guys, like introvert people.
Weirdos who are cave divers.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Because the military can't hack it.
They don't know how to get in and get these kids out.
It's a fascinating story.
Should I tell you what happens?
Spoiler alerts.
joe rogan
Okay.
christina pazsitzky
I know I probably should have said this before, but okay anyway.
Yo, yo, yo.
So these are the guys.
And they find this group of like misfit dudes who love cave diving and they can go into these tiny little angles.
I mean, look at the, it's all so narrow.
And like I said, there's the boys trapped.
They got trapped in a storm and they were there for like a month.
Oh, it's awful.
And they had to devise a plan to get these boys out.
Oh my god.
Can I tell you how they did it?
joe rogan
Sure.
christina pazsitzky
It's so crazy.
They consulted with this anesthesiologist and they put an apparatus on the boys' faces to put them under anesthesia.
And then the professional diver would take them through the cave very carefully out over like two or three hours while this kid was under anesthesia.
joe rogan
Two or three hours?
Oh my god.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, like I'm crying even just fucking remembering it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
christina pazsitzky
It's horrible.
Look, look, this is the route.
So there's the boys.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is insane.
christina pazsitzky
So they had to find a way to be able to carry a kid, safely put a mask on them.
joe rogan
Without the kid freaking out.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right, because if the kid freaks out, it kicks up dust.
I had Donald Cerrone on my podcast, and he was cave diving with this guy, and the guy got his tube tangled, his rope tangled, and he freaked out and spazzed out, and he filled the cabin up with silt, and they couldn't see anymore, and he couldn't figure out how to get out.
And he was running out of air.
It's the most riveting story I've ever heard in my life.
christina pazsitzky
What is this?
joe rogan
It's Donald Cerrone, and he was telling a cave diving story.
And it's on YouTube, and when he did it, even though I knew he was here, So I knew he was alive.
He's obviously alive.
He's sitting in front of me telling me the story.
It's about him.
But as he's telling me, I'm so filled with anxiety that I can hardly breathe because he's doing an amazing job of telling it.
And the story is terrifying.
And then he's thinking about getting back to his wife and his kid.
That's what he's thinking about.
And while he's trying to find his way out, he's like, I'm not going to fucking quit.
I'm going to get out.
And he finally gets out.
It's like, yo!
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
But he's like...
You want to talk about...
He's a hardcore adrenaline junkie.
christina pazsitzky
That's what that is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, he's a professional cage fighter.
He's had 48 fights in the UFC. Yeah.
He jumps jet skis and fucking...
He's always doing nutty things.
You know, whatever the fuck it is, he'll do it.
Is it wild?
Let's do it.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like stand-up comedy is the ultimate for me in terms of, like, danger.
Like, intellectual danger.
joe rogan
It's a great intellectual danger.
Podcasting is too, because podcasting, you're really just thinking it up on the fly.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
The intellectual danger about stand-up comedy is like, you committed to this.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
It's just you and the mic, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Well, I have to take a pish.
joe rogan
Yeah, go ahead.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I'll see you later.
joe rogan
We'll pause.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
We'll be right back.
christina pazsitzky
We'll be right back.
joe rogan
And we're back.
christina pazsitzky
So much better.
joe rogan
Having to think and pee at the same time are not good.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like when you have to pee and you're holding it.
christina pazsitzky
I know, it's the worst.
joe rogan
The brain does not work well.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
No.
christina pazsitzky
We could build chairs with toilets, but you don't want to see that.
I tried peeing in a diaper once on our podcast.
It's terrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, that doesn't seem like a good time.
christina pazsitzky
It's not as fun as you think it'd be.
joe rogan
I don't think it would be fun.
Remember when that astronaut lady did it?
She wore diapers so she could go kill her boyfriend's girlfriend.
christina pazsitzky
I think about it once a year.
I think about that one a lot.
unidentified
Like, yo, how mad are you that you're like, I'm gonna wear a diaper?
joe rogan
And drive across the fucking country.
She was going like 90 miles an hour for 18 hours.
With a diaper on, just shitting her pants and just gritting her teeth.
And she bear maced that lady.
She hit her with bear spray and she tried to pull her out of her car and then she broke down crying.
christina pazsitzky
That's what I miss.
You know, we don't have any great scandals anymore.
joe rogan
Well, that one was crazy because it was a NASA astronaut.
christina pazsitzky
You're like, you're smart.
You should know better.
joe rogan
She was a NASA astronaut, and she drove across the fucking country to go whack her boyfriend's...
I think it was the boyfriend's wife.
I think she was fooling around with this guy who's married, and I think that was the story.
But that bitch and Amber Heard are cut from the same cloth.
unidentified
Yo.
christina pazsitzky
That's right.
unidentified
See, that's the thing.
christina pazsitzky
You think that smart people can't be crazy.
joe rogan
No, that's not true at all!
christina pazsitzky
Like what we were saying earlier, like, oh, but when I grow up, I'll be normal when I grow up.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
christina pazsitzky
And you're like, oh, no, you either get more neurotic and you develop vices to cope, or you figure out your shit and you try to stay somewhat connected to reality.
joe rogan
There's a lot of smart people that are crazy as fuck.
Crazy as fuck.
Think of how hard it must be to become a doctor, right?
It's hard, right?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Super difficult.
christina pazsitzky
It's like a decade of school right now.
joe rogan
It's a lot of work.
Now, imagine becoming a Nazi doctor.
christina pazsitzky
A Nazi doctor?
joe rogan
Yeah, Nazis had doctors.
You know what I'm saying?
christina pazsitzky
Sure, sure.
Okay, hold on.
joe rogan
So here you have a brilliant person who's clearly doing something evil as fuck.
It doesn't just because someone's smart doesn't mean they're good.
christina pazsitzky
Well, here's the deal.
I read this book in college by Hannah Arndt called The Banality of Evil.
And they put Eichmann was on trial in Jerusalem, right?
And she's like, you know, you would expect that Eichmann, who was what his PR guy, Hitler's PR guy is like second or third in charge.
Would be this malicious, evil, malignant piece of shit, but it turns out kind of a dope.
And that evil, you know, you're not really aware that you're doing it sometimes when you're doing it, is what the point of that whole thing was, if I'm recalling correctly.
Sometimes people aren't aware.
They're just, like, following orders.
Of how fucked up it is.
Yeah, like, even now, like, if we go along with this culture of, like, I don't share the same opinion as you, you're a bad person, like, it's just an extension of that type of thinking.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's absolute kind of thinking.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
christina pazsitzky
You don't know.
You're just going with the flow.
Okay, I guess it's a bad thing to do.
I guess it's okay.
joe rogan
Well, if you just think of the horrific things that people used to do that we thought of as normal and now are atrocious.
christina pazsitzky
Like putting babies out in the middle of winter, out on the landing.
You ever seen those pictures?
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I like that one, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I like that.
christina pazsitzky
No, I mean, it's bizarre.
You're like, who would ever think that that's a good idea?
To put a kid out in the freezing cold.
joe rogan
Why did they do that?
christina pazsitzky
It tired out the babies.
It was supposed to be good for them.
Made them sleep better, they said.
They're probably just finding to stay alive.
joe rogan
How many of those kids got eaten by wolves?
Jesus Christ, that's crazy.
christina pazsitzky
That's the exact picture, yeah, that I saw on the internet.
joe rogan
They just like, shut the kid the fuck up and put him in a net.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, that's creepy.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
People barely knew how to raise people when our parents were being raised.
They barely knew it.
And then our parents barely knew how to raise us, and we finally have the internet to Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And psychotherapy.
joe rogan
Babies need to be aired.
Fresh air is required to renew and purify the blood.
And this is just as necessary for health and growth as proper food.
They sound like influencers on Instagram.
You know, like the health frauds.
You know, there's a few health frauds.
unidentified
Yeah, I love those.
joe rogan
We need to purify the blood with meditation.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Like, I'm going to purify my blood.
By what metric?
Are you fucking measuring your blood?
christina pazsitzky
And they're always in their 20s, these Instagram fitness people.
I'm like, bitch, I look that good too.
I didn't do damn fucking things.
Show me in your 50s.
joe rogan
It's pretty easy to look good when you're in your 20s.
Your body's firing on all cylinders.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Well, it's like, though I don't fault them for it because it's a viable way to make a living now.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, would you rather have them being a fitness coach at Equinox, or would you rather have them on Instagram?
It's kind of...
One of them is more lucrative.
Definitely.
You could actually probably do both at the same time if the gym lets you.
But if you're one of them fitness people, you can get a few million followers on Instagram and then all of a sudden you're selling products.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You have a fucking code.
Use my code.
They kick you back with a little piece of the action.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
If you're one of those characters that sells that skinny tea or whatever the fuck they sell...
christina pazsitzky
I tried that.
joe rogan
Is it any good?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I don't want to say the name of the brand.
It's just fucking tea.
It's like, instead of eating compulsively, I'm going to drink tea.
And it's like, let's just drink coffee.
It's much better.
I tried a diet pill once, and I was like, oh, this is terrible.
joe rogan
Want some coffee?
christina pazsitzky
No.
Oh, you're going to there.
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Black coffee.
joe rogan
I like my men.
The influencer thing is, you know, I'm cool with it until you start selling skinny tea.
christina pazsitzky
Okay, go ahead.
joe rogan
It's like, that shit does not do anything.
You know it doesn't do anything.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, or just like, yeah.
joe rogan
If there was a fucking tea that made you lose weight, too many people would be shredded.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
They would all take it.
I know.
Why wouldn't they take it?
I heard you talking about The War of Art by Steven Pressfield, which I'm a huge fan of that book as well.
joe rogan
It's a great book.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
I found it a decade ago, and it just completely, it was like, just do it.
Shut the fuck up and do it.
joe rogan
It's so uniquely pragmatic, the way he describes becoming a pro, sitting down, the prayer to the muse.
christina pazsitzky
The muse!
Oh, I forgot about her.
joe rogan
Treat it like it's a real person.
There's something to that.
There's something to treating it like it's a real person.
christina pazsitzky
Well, because I've learned in stand-up comedy, if I'm trying to sit down and work on a joke...
I know there are some comedians that every morning they sit up...
I want...
Light my crack pipe, too.
But the muse doesn't always show up when you want her to.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Yeah, but...
christina pazsitzky
My fucking dick fell out.
joe rogan
You can't worry about that.
You've got to just keep showing up.
The whole key of it is, yeah, it's not going to...
Look at you.
I turned Christina Segura into a motherfucking cigar smoker...
unidentified
Bitch!
joe rogan
The idea is that you show up, because you're a professional, and you have days where you write.
I came home two nights ago, I wrote a bunch of nonsense.
And I tried reading it the next day, I'm like, I know what I was trying to say, but this is not good.
And I was like, okay.
Because I just came home and I was like, before I do anything, let me just get some ideas out.
See if they become a seed.
christina pazsitzky
But then the unconscious will work on it, I found.
And then when it's ready, it'll come up.
But the secret is to listen to the muse.
So when she gives you the idea, respect that bitch and write it down.
Write it down.
Write it down.
And that's what I've learned over the years.
Like, oh, that's how I do it.
Don't ignore that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have thoughts sometimes that I ignore.
Oh, I'll remember that.
christina pazsitzky
Never.
unidentified
Never remember it at all.
joe rogan
I'm playing a little trick on myself.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, why do we do that?
That's so lazy.
joe rogan
So lazy, because how much time does it take to get out of your bed, grab your phone, and write it in the notes?
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
And you don't even have to write anymore.
You can just press the voice thing and just start talking, and it'll transcribe what you're saying.
oh yeah yeah did you know about that i could do that no i didn't know is it in your notes check this watch you go into your notes right okay here's notes i go like that i press that button get this and i press this and i say christina segura is a bad thank you get the yeah so you instantaneously have a note Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I'm going to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and so if you have an idea that just pops into your head, you capture it.
christina pazsitzky
I like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you can capture it in 10 seconds.
In 10 seconds, you could open your phone, do that, press that, and then you're recording it.
So 10 seconds later, the idea is still fresh in your head.
Just get it out.
christina pazsitzky
Get it out.
And then revisit it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then you revisit.
Sometimes you revisit it like, oh, I forgot about this.
I love that.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
I love that.
christina pazsitzky
I have so many journals.
There has to be a better way.
But I still like old school.
I have to write it down.
I don't like to type.
And then I look at it.
Sometimes a joke can take me seven years to write.
joe rogan
There was a problem with that.
There's a couple of problems.
One problem is you have to have the notebook.
christina pazsitzky
With writing it out?
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I know!
joe rogan
But there's also this thing, what is it called, Remarkable?
Where it's a tablet, I haven't used it, but it's a tablet that you write on and it has the feeling of texture of paper.
And then it uploads it.
christina pazsitzky
Ooh, I want that.
joe rogan
And it uploads it into your computer.
And I think it can also turn into a text file.
So it can turn it and change it from your handwriting and your script into text.
Is that what it is?
Have you ever used it, Jamie?
You had it for a while?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Everybody says it's correct.
How is it?
unidentified
It's good.
The purposes you just said are what it's for.
joe rogan
Show us what it looks like.
The thing that I find for sure is that when I physically write things down like that, I remember better.
So what I do is I use index cards in my green room and I write things on the index cards.
And I also use notebooks where I write down the bits in the notebooks.
So I write down my bits, even though I know my bits, I write them out.
I just write them out.
So they're like, before the show, I just have it 100% dialed in in my head where there's no thought whatsoever about what I want to talk about.
Just go out there and flow.
christina pazsitzky
But what are the index cards for?
joe rogan
Sometimes I want to put it in order.
I just want to write it out.
I got that idea from Kevin James.
You know why?
Because Kevin James and I had the same writer.
Because I'm lazy.
And he wanted M&Ms and certain fucking this and that.
And I go, I don't give a shit.
They go, what's your writer?
I go, I don't give a fuck.
Water.
I don't know.
And so she goes, I'll just use Kevin's rider.
So I got all this stuff.
I got like red wine and like a meat platter and fruit.
I was like, oh, this is fucking cool.
Like index cards and Sharpies, huh?
What does he use those for?
So I used Kevin James's rider and then I started opening up index cards.
I was like, what a great idea.
Just write out your fucking, your premises and like set it down and look at it before the show.
christina pazsitzky
That's brilliant.
That's great.
joe rogan
That's a great idea.
christina pazsitzky
That's brilliant.
Because I remember my jokes, how I write the setlist out.
Like when I'm on stage, I literally can see the writing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And I go, oh, I know that's the next bit, but I like index cards.
joe rogan
The writing, the physical writing is different than the typing.
But for getting down an idea, there's nothing better than the typing.
What I do is write with a computer, and then I take it and I'll copy and paste it into something else, or whether it's Scrivener or whether it's Notes, and then I'll write it out when I'm going to do it on stage.
I'll write out the bit.
I'll write out all the key points.
Because I can do it without that, but it's...
I think it's the best way to do it.
There's some things where you go, okay, am I avoiding this because it's more work or am I avoiding it because it's unnecessary?
And it's hard to figure out what's what sometimes because you kind of play games with yourself.
But if I'm being honest with myself, the more work I do in terms of paying attention to it, writing it out, looking at it, the more the better.
So the three-step process to coming up with the idea and then to writing it out like in a computer, like in Microsoft Word or something, to taking that and then writing that on a piece of paper.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that's funny.
I do very similar.
Because I got a Google Doc that just like is a running, it's like a million pages of jokes.
But then I will take what's going to happen on stage in a notebook.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
So do you write the actual jokes on paper and then you print it out later in a Google Doc?
christina pazsitzky
Sometimes.
And then I'll look at the Google Doc and I'll be like, oh, that's interesting.
That's funny.
But whatever makes it to handwritten is what makes it to stage.
And then I do keywords so I don't do the whole sentence so that I can memorize.
unidentified
Like fart, cum, you know, whatever.
joe rogan
Fart or cum.
christina pazsitzky
Stupid, yeah.
It's so crazy because I can memorize an hour of jokes, but like dialogue, like if someone give me a script, I can't do it.
joe rogan
Because you're completely connected to your material.
It's like your world view.
So this is the thing about comedy.
It's like there's a lot of different kinds of comedy.
You know, there's like set up punchline, fake jokes, comedy.
There's But then there's, here's the world through my eyes.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's what you're doing.
christina pazsitzky
Right.
joe rogan
So of course you can remember it.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it's 100% you.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And it's like, oh, I can, and I can even, like, new ones I write, I can be like, oh yeah, that's going to come out.
It's such a fun craft.
joe rogan
It's the best.
christina pazsitzky
I know, I'm so like, I just hope I get to do more specials, you know?
I love, I love it.
You know what's so funny?
I saw you in like 2000, I don't know, 18, I think I was pregnant, or before I got pregnant, and you were like, you should have a special.
And I was like, oh yeah, I should have a special.
And then I started to work on it, but it was because you said I should.
It hadn't occurred to me until you said it.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
Why it hadn't occurred to you?
christina pazsitzky
You're such a fucking idiot, because I was like...
joe rogan
But that's one of the reasons why you're so funny.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, thanks.
joe rogan
Because you're not completely career-obsessed.
You are obsessed with things being funny.
But you have this weird part of you that's not totally that...
You're not hyper-ambitious, but you're really, really focused on being really funny.
christina pazsitzky
Isn't that the most important?
joe rogan
It is the most important.
christina pazsitzky
I love Bill Hicks.
I love Bill Hicks.
And he was always like, if you build it, they will come.
He always said that, just be funny.
The agents, everything will come.
And I don't think you should ever chase the industry.
Don't ever chase them.
joe rogan
No, you can't because then you get the ones that don't really want you and they don't do a good job.
The relationship that an artist has to representation is very important because you have to be able to trust them.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like one of the reasons why I got those folks that used to work at the Comedy Store to come work here in Austin is because I trust them.
They're all good people.
I know them well.
It's like, these are good people.
I can think about other things.
I don't want to think about that.
Let me think about other things.
So if you have a manager and an agent, you can't have a manager and an agent that doesn't really give a fuck about you.
christina pazsitzky
It's the worst.
It's a bad relationship.
joe rogan
It's a bad relationship.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
It's like the dude that you're always chasing.
Like me, love me, love me, love me.
joe rogan
But in the beginning when people are open micers, that's all they get.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Because those are the only people that are interested.
And they might want you to sign some 10 year deal where they get 50% of your podcast.
You know they're doing that?
christina pazsitzky
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they're doing that.
christina pazsitzky
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's some sleazy fucking managers that are not just getting a piece of the standup career that they can enhance, but they're also getting a piece of the podcast.
christina pazsitzky
Nah.
And they do nothing to help that.
joe rogan
No, they do nothing to help.
Yeah.
I mean, it's really dark.
It's dark stuff.
christina pazsitzky
It is dark.
Well, what's so crazy to me is, like, why haven't agencies built a podcasting division where they sell ads?
Like, really?
You guys are that fucking far behind?
joe rogan
Some of them do.
They are starting to do that now.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, good.
joe rogan
But, you know, I should be clear.
Some managers will help your podcast.
Some managers will help you get guests, and they'll help do things, and they're business partners.
They work with you, and they deserve a piece of the action.
But that's not what most of them are doing.
What most of them are doing, they send you fucking auditions to some sitcom you don't really want to do, and they collect all your road money.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, that's the worst.
I had that totally.
joe rogan
They collect 10% of your road money, and then they collect your podcast money, and they're not helping.
christina pazsitzky
That's the worst.
joe rogan
Because you are getting everything from you being more and more successful on podcasts and in your career growing and then putting stuff on YouTube and what have you and then eventually doing bigger and bigger theater shows and you still have the same manager who doesn't do a goddamn thing and tells you Full House is going to be, you know, now that Saget's dead, they're looking for a guy.
You're like right about to go on stage in Denver like what the fuck are you talking about man?
And you can't believe you're paying that guy.
You know?
That's a lot of the relationships that managers have with comedians in this day and age.
But there's great, my manager's amazing.
christina pazsitzky
Yes, I like her very much.
joe rogan
Chandra and Jeff, the two of them work together and they're the best ever.
And I'm so fortunate I have this amazing relationship with them where they're my friends.
I care about them very deeply.
I love them to death.
So it's not like, it's never like some question as to whether or not I'll be working with them.
christina pazsitzky
But they love you too.
Shandra loves you.
I've talked to her and she's like, they're all in.
Like you've got a great team.
It does take a team of people to manage the career if you find the right.
joe rogan
You've got to have that in life, too.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Friends.
You know, it's one of the beautiful things about this group of people that we all hang out with is that everyone is really supportive.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And everyone's genuinely friendly and everyone's killing it.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
That's part of the thing.
It's like the more people around you are killing it, the more it's better for everybody.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
Yeah, I was just thinking last night, like, about my husband, how Tom Segura was never bad at stand-up.
It's like, I met him, he was 23, and I was 26, and we were both open micers, and, like, he was so good.
And I ran the show at Tangier, and I would have Tommy close out all the shows, and it's, like, Ryan Sickler, Matt Fulchron, Tom Segura.
joe rogan
Full Charge.
christina pazsitzky
Full Charge.
Yeah, like...
All these bros that I still kick it with today and like everybody's just...
joe rogan
I haven't seen Full Charge in forever.
christina pazsitzky
We just got married.
joe rogan
Matt got married?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shout out to Matt.
christina pazsitzky
Okay.
Send him a gift.
But it's cool.
It's really something special to watch all these kids.
Like we grew up, we were just kids in Los Feliz.
And like now we're all adults, dude.
Doing this thing.
It's rad.
joe rogan
With families.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Netflix deals.
christina pazsitzky
What?
joe rogan
Podcast studios.
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
Weird.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Strange.
christina pazsitzky
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a weird life.
But at the end of the day, I was having this conversation last night with William Montgomery.
Because William Montgomery did shows with Tony Hinchcliffe in Phoenix last week.
And I dropped in.
I did guest sets on Tony's show.
It was fun.
unidentified
I love Tony.
christina pazsitzky
He's such a good writer.
Talk about a killer joke.
joe rogan
He's brilliant.
I'm worried that one day I'm not going to be able to take Tony on the road with me.
He's going to be too big.
I'm not kidding.
christina pazsitzky
It's going to happen.
joe rogan
He's going to happen.
christina pazsitzky
The Kill Tony show when he just shits on people.
joe rogan
He's the best.
His off-the-cuff jokes are so brilliant.
It's like a team of writers sat down with it for an hour and a half.
Meanwhile, he bangs it out in a half a second.
No, he's genius.
He's a genius roaster.
I think he's the best roaster alive.
I really do.
And he's just the funniest as a host of a show, like that Kill Tony show.
He's the funniest guy.
He's so quick.
christina pazsitzky
Remember when we were at the Vulcan and some stupid bitch popped off in the front and Tony just fucking hammered her and went after her?
I remember it.
joe rogan
It happened again last night.
christina pazsitzky
You mean last night?
joe rogan
Last night it happened last night.
Yeah, so people got kicked out in the front row and Tony was eviscerating them.
christina pazsitzky
I love that shit.
But we all ran out, you know, like fucking...
It sounds like we were at the comedy store, like in the back of the OR or some shit.
joe rogan
Like, oh, something's happening, dude!
christina pazsitzky
You know, we all like ran out.
It was like the old days.
It felt so good.
joe rogan
Some people just need to learn about marijuana and stop drinking so much goddamn vodka before shows.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, people get all ripped.
joe rogan
They get too ripped and then they think they're a part of the show.
And it's just because they're drunk.
christina pazsitzky
Sorry, I derailed your point.
joe rogan
I don't have one.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, okay.
unidentified
What was it?
joe rogan
What was I saying?
christina pazsitzky
What day is it?
Who are we?
joe rogan
Oh, we're talking to William Montgomery about it.
So William Montgomery and Hans Kim, too.
We do these shows all the time at the Vulcan.
And then I take them with me on the road sometimes.
Like, I've taken Hans to arenas.
We did Fort Worth.
We did this gigantic arena in Fort Worth.
Brand new arena.
It was amazing.
And Hans fucking killed it.
And I was telling him, I'm like, it's the same thing, man.
We're all doing the same thing.
You're just...
Every day is just make the bits better.
Every day.
Whether you're here or there.
So I'm gonna take you with me to these places.
You can see this, and then you'll see a club.
I'll take you to a club, too.
We'll do little clubs, little 200-seaters.
And then we'll do a 1600-seater.
And then we'll do this, and then we'll do that.
We'll do an arena.
It's the same goddamn thing as the Vulcan on a Tuesday night.
We're just trying to kill.
You're just trying to tighten those bits up, and you're trying to give the people the best possible experience that you can give them.
christina pazsitzky
I agree, and especially...
What are you writing?
Because I have points, and then I fucking forget them, and I'm like, oh, I want to say...
I get all my brain...
joe rogan
You've written down more than any scientist who has ever been on this podcast.
christina pazsitzky
The fucking phthalate lady.
I'm like, I'm just a fucking idiot, because I forget the...
unidentified
I forgot my...
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
christina pazsitzky
What was I saying?
Here's a point.
Okay, here's a point.
joe rogan
Okay.
christina pazsitzky
There's two points to this.
You said you had to work it out.
I love the process of grinding and working and finding the bit.
I'm obsessed with this process and I'm obsessed with failure because that's how the best...
And I don't even see it as failure.
It's just like, oh, okay, let's go, let's go, let's go, pushing boundaries.
But number two, and I think what was so valuable and so amazing about you...
And watching you is that you have to see it in order to go, oh, I could fucking do that, too, until you see a successful comedian and you're like, oh, dude, oh, okay, that's the road.
I can do that.
Then, boom, like, you're there, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You have to be able to see.
So it's good that you're taking this kid and going, like, here's an arena.
Here's a 200-seater.
Here's da-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
joe rogan
Yeah, well that's what I did with Ari and Duncan and all those guys too.
It's like, take them all, Joey, just take them to everywhere.
Like, guys.
And also, it's a beautiful sort of system of support that we have for each other.
It's very beneficial to everybody.
It's very beneficial to me.
It's beneficial to them.
It's beneficial to me to watch them do well and to be able to see them come back to a place and headline after they work with me.
And start doing theaters on their own and doing clubs on their own and killing it.
The art form is fragile and there's not a lot of us.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
I think the more we support each other and the more we realize that a lot of disputes that comics have with each other are bullshit.
They're not necessary.
They can be talked out.
Really, we should be concentrated on trying to help this very fragile art form.
I mean, there's more comics now than I think than ever because of the internet, because of shows like Kill Tony and all these shows where you get to see on people's Instagram pages them doing open mic sets.
People are pretty brave.
They're putting open mic sets on their Instagram pages.
christina pazsitzky
I would rather fucking die.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, imagine if you had some of that stuff from day four of you doing comedy.
christina pazsitzky
I'm so mortified by even my first album, comedy.
I'm like, oh god, I sound terrible.
I'm so embarrassed.
joe rogan
But because of that, there's a lot of people doing it now.
But it's still not that...
It's hard.
It's hard to run a club.
It's hard to run a club and have it be profitable without big names coming in all the time.
It's hard to be a comic and make a living and figure out a way to feed yourself while you're trying to advance in comedy.
You're not exactly sure how to advance.
You don't have a manager and you don't have an agent.
You're still writing, but you get depressed.
We need support.
christina pazsitzky
It's a mind game.
It's a whole fucking...
Well, and here's the deal, man.
From what I've been talking to clubs and stuff, because I bring Chase O'Donnell with me.
She's my feature act.
And I love Chase because she's different than me.
She's not snarky and sarcastic and there's no jokes like, I got anal from my boyfriend.
I sucked a dick.
Like, I'm so fucking over that.
I hate it.
joe rogan
Is that really common?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
Like, I'm over it.
It's just not my steez, dude.
But I talk to these clubs and they're like, yeah, we don't support, they don't support feature acts anymore.
There's no culture of like, yeah, we'll put the feature up and we'll pay them peanuts, but they'll have a place to stay.
joe rogan
They don't even do that anymore?
christina pazsitzky
No.
So what you're saying about this being a fragile art form, you're 100% accurate because there's no system other than the headliner bringing some lucky few along.
How do we keep this art form going?
joe rogan
Well, we have to make sure we have open mics.
That's very important.
Open mics are very important.
Community is very important.
And having some sort of logical progression to professionalism.
You have to have a logical progression to you get a certain amount of time and you hone that time and maybe you can open up for somebody.
Your jokes are tight.
And then the person takes you in the road and you should make enough money to eat and to fucking pay your rent.
You know, it's a thing.
And then you try to figure out how to become a national touring act.
And there's like, you opened for this guy, opened up for Burt in Cincinnati, and you contact the club owner, and they see you, and they go, how much time do you have?
You're like, well, I've done 45, but you really only have 30. Of course.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my God, yeah.
joe rogan
And then you make your way in, and it's a long process.
christina pazsitzky
It's a long process.
joe rogan
And you have to do it right, because if you show up in Seattle and you bomb, everyone's going to know.
christina pazsitzky
That's it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're going to go, oh, we had him headlined and he didn't sell any tickets and he ate shit on stage and couldn't follow the middle act.
christina pazsitzky
See, that's funny because I thought that was just me being like, oh, I'm a woman so I have to fucking kill because if I don't kill they're going to say, oh, it's because she's a girl and I put that added pressure.
joe rogan
There's definitely that though.
There's that too.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
100% there's an added difficulty level for females.
I had this conversation back in the day with Judy Gold because I did this article for Playboy where I talked about it and I said it's harder for women.
Anybody says it's not, you're not being honest.
It's harder because men don't want to hear women talk about politics.
They don't want to hear them tell people what they should and shouldn't be doing.
They don't want to hear them talking about sex.
So it's hard.
So you either have to be kind of gross, so when you talk about sex, it's funny, or you've got to be hot and you're luring people in with your sex jokes.
It's harder.
And there's a certain expectation of you being unfunny.
christina pazsitzky
Watch this.
Watch this.
joe rogan
What are you writing?
christina pazsitzky
Write it down.
So what I found is...
Sorry, I'm two whole glasses of white wine in.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Yeah, we're a couple of old ladies in the suburbs.
unidentified
Woo!
Yeah, dog.
joe rogan
We're at brunch.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, for sure.
This is like the best thing I've ever done.
I'm out of my fucking house.
So what I found is, personally, Janine Garofalo had this great saying.
She goes, men in the audience, they have to figure out whether they want to fight you or fuck you.
joe rogan
Mm.
christina pazsitzky
And there's some truth in that.
joe rogan
That's very true.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, but I also think there's truth in being an archetype.
So you're either a whore, which is what you're saying, like, I'm going to talk about sucking dicks and anal, which is fine, right?
Or you're the mother or the sister.
Now, I might be projecting my own stuff into the world, but I found that once I became a mother, I slid into that archetype very well.
joe rogan
Right.
christina pazsitzky
Very comfortably.
unidentified
Right.
christina pazsitzky
I'm attractive enough that you don't mind looking at me.
Right.
But I'm not like the hottie-tottie 20-something, so there's no real danger that your husband's going to run away with me.
joe rogan
Right, right, right, right, right.
christina pazsitzky
And I'm talking about motherhood, which is a subject, like you said, nobody wants to hear me talk about my opinion.
You're absolutely right.
It's funny because my husband and I can do the same bit and a totally different response.
Now, I'm not saying there's delivery, there's persona, but I think it's the meat shell that you're in dictates what you can get away with.
Now, that being said...
I got a fucking license to ill.
I can say crazy shit.
joe rogan
That's true, too.
christina pazsitzky
Can you imagine this sweet little blonde white lady is talking crazy shit?
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
It's a great license.
christina pazsitzky
It's a license to ill.
No one's...
I mean, hey, cut this shit out.
I mean, I don't want this to attract people.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are...
You want some more of that, Mommy?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, see?
You're doing it now.
How easy was it?
joe rogan
Easy.
christina pazsitzky
You're stopping?
joe rogan
I already had a bunch.
christina pazsitzky
Don't worry.
joe rogan
I got a little in here.
christina pazsitzky
You fucking faded?
Cheers, bro.
Let's get ripped, homie.
joe rogan
I'll switch to whiskey.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I smoked weed, too.
I lost your fanny pack.
I had it for so long ago.
joe rogan
I got another one for you.
I got another one for you.
christina pazsitzky
I loved that one.
joe rogan
There's a difficulty with some guys.
Some guys, Janine Garofalo's right about that, that a lot of guys have that.
It's a good generalization.
But there's some guys that are like Hannah Gadsby fans.
Some guys are really into being flogged.
Some guys are really into hating being a man.
There's all kinds of people out there.
unidentified
Self-hating.
christina pazsitzky
There's self-hating males.
joe rogan
There's that.
There's guys that just like women stuff.
They like women doing stuff.
They like women doing stand-up.
christina pazsitzky
Can I tell you, before we shit on those guys, I love those guys.
Because 20 years ago, when Mommy was starting her career...
joe rogan
You needed those guys.
christina pazsitzky
I love those guys.
When I started my career, it was Florida.
I don't mind those guys, no.
Yeah, come to my shows.
joe rogan
They just like Mommy.
christina pazsitzky
They love Mommy.
I was doing Florida gigs.
I was doing...
You ever do Marco Island, where they're cracking seafood, cracking open the crabs, and you're...
I'd go up to a bunch of old fat white guys with their arms folded and I would have to win them over.
Yeah, you're going to love me.
And they did.
Fine.
I learned my tricks.
But I love this new crop.
These young boys in their 20s think it's perfectly normal that a woman will tell jokes.
Because they grew up on podcasts.
They grew up on...
joe rogan
Do you think there's more good women comedians now?
christina pazsitzky
I think it's harder for women to become good comedians.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Than ever?
It's harder now.
But it's always harder than it is for men, in my opinion.
christina pazsitzky
Well, because the life is hard.
So I grew up with not a lot of frilly comfort.
So it didn't bother me to live out of a suitcase.
You stay in a shitty motel.
You eat shitty food.
You don't know where you're going to be the next day.
All these things I was fine with.
A lot of women, it's very rough to live the road life.
You need your lighter, mommy?
It's not an easy life to become a feature act.
joe rogan
It's extremely tough.
And when you're a woman and you're on the road like that, I'm sure you feel vulnerable.
And then you're also not getting enough money to really sustain yourself like this.
This is just a bridge.
The middle life days are like a test to see if you will graduate to headliner.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
And you have to do a lot of that work.
You have to pursue gigs.
You have to try to get headliner gigs.
You have to contact people or have a manager that contacts people.
And you have to be able to put in the time at the clubs to develop a real act that you could actually sell as a headliner so that when you go and you do well, they want you to come again.
You have to be able to do good on the radio.
You get in the morning radio and you come in and talk shit.
And that's kind of dead.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, thank God morning radios did.
Wasn't that the fucking worst thing on the wall?
joe rogan
You need something if you don't have a podcast.
If you don't have a podcast and you don't have a social media presence, you need something.
christina pazsitzky
Because that's what the clubs are booking now, I hear, is just the person that on TikTok, they have a million followers.
And that's cool, but what's the act?
joe rogan
They're just doing whatever they can to fill the place, right?
You got to think of a comedy club that had to go through the pandemic and, you know, how many of them were shut down.
christina pazsitzky
That's true.
joe rogan
When I went to Stand Up Live this past weekend with Tony, first of all, amazing fucking place.
christina pazsitzky
It's a great venue.
joe rogan
It's a great venue.
It was so good.
christina pazsitzky
They put my picture up there.
That's why I like it.
joe rogan
I like it.
But I've been working for Joel for decades.
But the thing about it is that, like, when you get to a place like that, you realize, like, It's hard to keep a place like this open.
You have all these employees.
This is a 600-seat venue.
How much money did it cost them when they were shut down?
I mean, fortunately for them, they're in Arizona, so they weren't really shut down that long.
I think they had like 50% seating for a while.
Remember there was like weird rules?
You had to wear a mask.
christina pazsitzky
My favorite is let's put the plastic thing in between you and the next person and then COVID knows it can't go this way.
It has to go.
joe rogan
It can't go that way.
Go around.
Go around.
unidentified
When I see that show, I'm like, really?
joe rogan
Arizona's a weird place.
They're a little loose down there.
So I think they probably weren't as bad off as the store.
The store was shut down for a long fucking time.
A full year.
christina pazsitzky
California got fucked.
joe rogan
They got fucked by bureaucrats.
They got fucked by poor decision making.
They got fucked by poor planning.
Poor understanding of what it requires to keep a business open.
christina pazsitzky
It breaks my heart because I'm an Angeleno.
I grew up in Los Angeles.
I love LA. It's the fifth largest economy in the world.
joe rogan
In the world.
christina pazsitzky
And I was just there.
I did a festival and the night of my...
I did the Regent Theater in downtown LA and I get a phone call on the way and my agent is like, okay, there's a hostage situation.
There's a man holding another man hostage.
Traffic will open up in an hour.
It'll be fine.
I'm like, What?
joe rogan
In an hour, they're so calm.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and then Chappelle got assaulted that night, too.
I'm like, What is happening, dude?
joe rogan
Los Angeles is a sketchy fucking place now.
And they're going to have to figure out how they can mitigate what they did during the pandemic and then the natural progression of homelessness and crime and defunding the police and all the chaos that came out of the George Floyd riots.
They've got to do something.
It's going the wrong way, and it's going the wrong way.
You can watch it progress.
You can look at the charts, the crime and the violence and all the things that are up, the burglaries and home invasions.
They're all up.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
It's not good.
It's not a good trend.
They're letting people out of jail early.
They're putting people back on the streets after they've committed violent crimes.
It's not good.
It's not good.
They didn't manage it well during the pandemic, and they're not managing it well now.
The problem is they're also trapped in this ideology of progressiveness.
Progressives want everyone...
To recognize that there's inequality everywhere, and we have to take that into consideration when we're prosecuting people and arresting people.
Yes, sort of, but you also have to fucking stop crime.
You can't allow people, because crime begets more crime.
People get excited about it.
christina pazsitzky
It's a beacon.
Yeah.
Hey, look, you can hit a comet?
Great.
Will Smith did it.
Now, someone else is going to do it to Chappelle, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
The idea.
joe rogan
The guy literally tweeted, Chappelle, you're next.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, he tweeted that.
With they, them as his pronoun.
Chappelle, you're next.
He said it.
He made a tweet.
christina pazsitzky
They tweeted that?
joe rogan
Yeah, they did that.
christina pazsitzky
I like that.
joe rogan
The world's not fair, but it's not fair in some ways that at least are manageable.
They should manage them better.
All the fucking resources we're pumping into Ukraine, where did we get that money?
How come you didn't fix all this shit?
Where the fuck did you get four billion dollars?
We could have used that to make the education system better in this country.
All these years we weren't going to war with Ukraine or with Russia.
Imagine that if they just all of a sudden have filled four billion dollars.
Where did you get it?
What about the schools?
The schools, they're eating fucking toast.
These kids have no food.
They have terrible lunches.
Not nutritious at all.
Where's the money from?
Where's your money from?
Where's that money coming from?
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
But what I have learned living here in Texas is that we don't like government involved in our shit.
joe rogan
That's for sure.
Well, Texas has sort of this history of independence because it wasn't even a part of the union originally.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
I like that.
That's why it's the Lone Star State.
Didn't it secede at one point?
joe rogan
I don't know if it seceded, but there was a rough go of it.
You know, there was a rough go of even settling this area.
This area was overrun by the Comanches, and they killed everybody until they figured out revolvers.
And then once people figured out revolvers, they're like, oh, I've got more than one shot here.
We can fuck these guys up.
And that really changed the West.
christina pazsitzky
Guns, germs, and steel.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that really did.
There's a guy named Jack Hayes.
He was the very first Texas Ranger.
He also figured out you have to hunt the Comanches the way the Comanches travel.
So you have to not use fire because you have to do what's called a cold camp.
You camp with no fire so they can't see where you are.
You have to be really sneaky and you can't dress like a soldier.
You've got to sneak in on them.
So all the Texas Rangers are basically like...
It's like the modern version of a Navy SEAL. They figured out how to infiltrate and be the most extreme badasses to overcome the Comanches.
And then they figured out the revolver.
And the revolver was first thought to be a useless weapon.
They came up with it.
I think Colt came up with it first.
But most people were like, why do I need all these bullets?
I can just pack it in there.
christina pazsitzky
Take my time.
joe rogan
If I'm going to have a duel with a gentleman...
I will have plenty of time to reload my musket pistol.
But they realized that these Comanches could ride their horses and shoot arrows off the horses.
And they would keep the arrows in their fingers.
So they would have like four arrows in their fingers.
And they would go like, shh, one, shh, two, shh, three, shh, four.
And they would do it while they were riding the horse towards them.
And these poor guys were in there with the fucking musket like, hey, thunk, thunk, thunk.
And they were getting lit up.
So it was a long-ass time before they figured out how to conquer this area.
They would give people settlements out here.
They would say, you know, Mr. Wilson, what would be great for you?
A wonderful ranch in Comancheria.
You know why they called it Comancheria?
Because it was run by the Comanches.
So these fucking assholes, they'd give them these plots of land, they'd put up fences and everything, and the Comanches would come and slaughter everybody.
And then they would have to have a response for the Comanches slaughtering everybody, so then they would bring in the troops and attack them.
It wasn't that much different than what they do today.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing.
We like to think that we're so advanced.
We like to think that we're so rational.
Guess what?
No.
We're still dipshits.
joe rogan
There's a lot of dipshits out there.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, I'm not a political comedian, but Russia and Ukraine, you think, oh, we're so evolved.
Really?
It's still East and West.
joe rogan
Well, the Russia-Ukraine thing is crazy because a lot of them speak the same language.
And they're like right next door to each other.
It's like us going to war with Canada.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Imagine we went to war with fucking Montreal.
Like, what are we doing?
We're blowing up Montreal?
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Really?
christina pazsitzky
But you talk to...
So I have a friend in Kiev.
Kiev?
unidentified
Kiev.
christina pazsitzky
Kiev.
And you talk to my friend there and they're like, no, no, no, dude.
We are not fucking Russian.
We are not.
We have our own shit.
We have our own language.
We have our own culture.
unidentified
Don't fuck with me.
joe rogan
Do they speak Russian and Ukrainian?
christina pazsitzky
But this is because the Russians annexed that part of the world.
Because they took over many, many years ago during the Cold War and forced that culture on them.
So they're like, oh, fuck your mother.
We don't speak this gobbledygook.
We speak our language.
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
It's a weird one because it's still going on.
And you're like, how does this wrap up?
And you keep hearing these rumors of Putin.
unidentified
How does it wrap up?
joe rogan
I want to be there for the season finale of Ukraine.
It's on right after Ozark.
christina pazsitzky
Well, we've already moved on.
I mean, everybody was so hot on it.
unidentified
I've moved on.
joe rogan
Amber Heard is more compelling.
There's something about her fake crying that really gets my panties in a jimmer.
christina pazsitzky
Gets my panties in a twist.
What about when she did Blow?
Do you think she did a hit?
I don't know.
joe rogan
I put it on my Instagram.
I don't know if she did it, but I hope she did it.
christina pazsitzky
I think she did.
Because I showed it to my friend who used to do cocaine.
He's like, yeah, yeah, that's a bump.
I'm like, that's fucking wild.
In court?
joe rogan
Well, she is blowing her nose with a tissue.
And if she just took a little toot, just a little pick-me-up.
christina pazsitzky
Is that what they call it?
joe rogan
Just a little pick-me-up.
A little pick-me-up.
Imagine if they drug tested her immediately afterwards.
christina pazsitzky
That would be so rad.
joe rogan
They put their hand on her arm.
Mr. Heard.
Mrs. Heard, excuse me.
christina pazsitzky
What are your pronouns?
joe rogan
We're going to have to drug test you.
Wasn't she a they-them at one point?
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
She had a lesbian relationship recently.
Oh, right.
Publicly living with a woman.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, my.
Did she change her pronouns?
joe rogan
Spicy.
unidentified
Spicy.
joe rogan
But if he just puts his arm on her?
Ms. Heard, we're going to have to take you for examination and drug test you.
Were you doing coke during the trial?
Refer to Instagram and TikTok.
christina pazsitzky
So you're doing a bump of coke.
joe rogan
People demand answers.
christina pazsitzky
They're like, this whole thing of like, were they, were they not doing drugs?
And it's like, yeah, dude, they were having, they were, they're wild.
This is the couple.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's Jack Sparrow, bitch.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, he's a fucking pirate.
You've never seen a couple like that where the guys, they're in it.
It makes his dick hard to be with a woman who's crazy and then they fight and they fuck and they fight and they fuck and it's exciting.
joe rogan
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Anybody who doesn't get it, they're not Jack Sparrow.
The guy's doing flower bags filled with coke every week.
What are you talking about?
He's probably having a blast.
So he almost lost a finger.
Whatever, whatever.
What the fuck ever?
christina pazsitzky
Did she cut it off or he did it?
joe rogan
She threw a fucking vodka bottle at him or something and smashed his finger and cut the tip of his finger off.
Fucking wild.
He'll get it sewed back on.
christina pazsitzky
And I bet they fucked like wild donkeys.
unidentified
Like wild dogs.
joe rogan
He probably had his arm in a sling.
He's banging it like he's riding a rodeo bronco with his one arm up in the air.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, they're so hot.
You can see their chemistry.
They want to fuck so bad.
joe rogan
But apparently she used to shit on them for being old.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, stop it.
He's still hot.
He's Johnny Depp.
What a cunt.
Am I supposed to say that?
joe rogan
You can say cunt.
christina pazsitzky
You know what I didn't like is when...
Listen.
Remember the whole fucking Winona Ryder, Johnny Depp era?
That was beautiful.
And he got the tattoo.
Was that your favorite?
joe rogan
Winona forever?
christina pazsitzky
And that bitch made fun of...
Winona forever?
How dare you?
joe rogan
She made fun of it because it was still on his arm.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
christina pazsitzky
Wino, but he changed it.
joe rogan
Wino forever?
christina pazsitzky
No, it just says, yeah, it just says Wino.
Right?
Is that what it says, young Jamie?
joe rogan
I don't know.
christina pazsitzky
I think it's just Wino.
joe rogan
Well, he had her name tattooed on his hand.
It said Slim.
And I think he turned...
christina pazsitzky
Don't tattoo the bitch's name.
Don't tattoo.
Don't ever.
Did you tattoo a woman's name?
unidentified
No.
christina pazsitzky
Never, right?
joe rogan
It just, I mean, you can do it if you really want to do it.
There's nothing wrong with doing that.
But not in that case.
Not that lady.
No, don't do that.
christina pazsitzky
Did they prenup?
joe rogan
No, they didn't.
Yeah, it said Wynonna Forever and he changed it to Wino Forever.
christina pazsitzky
Listen, every bitch in the 90s.
joe rogan
So it was Wynonna Forever and he changed it to Wino Forever.
christina pazsitzky
Well, he loved her.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
That's sort of disrespectful to change it to wino, though.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Either take it off or cover it up.
christina pazsitzky
Can you even really remove a tattoo?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're pretty good at it now.
christina pazsitzky
The lasers.
I follow a lot of people on TikTok that are removing facial tattoos.
And it's so slow.
It's a slow, arduous...
unidentified
Is it?
christina pazsitzky
A year, two years of...
joe rogan
Really?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
And then there's this thing in LA. You can get a tattoo that lasts for one year now.
joe rogan
Ooh.
Interesting.
christina pazsitzky
Like it's an ink that your body can dissolve.
joe rogan
That is such an LA thing.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
That's so LA. Is that a real tattoo?
It's henna.
Okay.
Is that a real tattoo?
It's an annual.
christina pazsitzky
That's what I want.
joe rogan
This guy got him removed.
25 procedures over the course of 16 months.
So he got it completely taken off.
Wow, his face was fucking scratched on.
Look at all that scratchy scratch.
I also detailed the whole thing over time.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
The poor guy, man.
Oh, my God.
No, she didn't.
Did she really do that?
I don't know.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
There's so many people that have done that.
It's so nuts, man.
Is this her for real?
I think so.
unidentified
Same tattoo.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
Is she getting it removed, too?
unidentified
It's her journey.
joe rogan
Oh, click on that.
unidentified
It's her journey.
joe rogan
Because I never get it when a pretty girl decides to do that.
christina pazsitzky
Usually there's meth involved.
unidentified
Drugs.
joe rogan
Oh, usually there's a lot involved.
A lot of anger, right?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
That's usually the common denominator when I find them on TikTok.
joe rogan
Does it show her removing it?
Not really, no.
Oh, she's just started?
unidentified
Maybe, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, good luck to you, honey.
christina pazsitzky
I remember her.
joe rogan
I hope you get rid of it.
Yeah, it's just a weird thing when someone starts to fuck around with the face and put like a little heart next to their cheek and like, hey, hey, hey!
Hey, hey!
Don't.
Don't you fucking do it.
christina pazsitzky
Don't do it.
But it's cool now, because post Malone...
He's got a lot of it.
He's got a lot, yeah.
joe rogan
Tyson, you don't even notice.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
When you're hanging out with Tyson, you're just like, oh my god, it's Mike Tyson.
You don't even notice that he has a face tattoo.
christina pazsitzky
Because you're so just in awe.
joe rogan
You just can't believe it's Mike Tyson.
christina pazsitzky
He was an innovator.
He was the first one to do that, besides Maori and shit.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Besides them, the first celebrity face tattoo...
I would have to say it's got to be Mike Tyson.
christina pazsitzky
That's pretty gangster.
joe rogan
Because he was a massive celebrity.
And he was doing it while he was fighting.
And he got that face tattooed.
And everybody freaked.
christina pazsitzky
I remember that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, they freaked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think he was going to do more of his face, too.
But he decided not to.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
That's a good call.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's tough.
christina pazsitzky
It's a tough look.
joe rogan
It's a good look.
I like it.
It works for him.
You know?
christina pazsitzky
Are you going to get face tats?
joe rogan
I'm thinking about it right now.
Face tats and heroin.
Which one first?
Maybe a neck tat.
Like a lightning bolt.
christina pazsitzky
Yo, I kind of like it.
Okay, a neck tat.
unidentified
Maybe a wolf.
Oh!
christina pazsitzky
I like that!
joe rogan
Right here.
unidentified
Oh!
christina pazsitzky
I can see you.
joe rogan
Maybe thunder and lightning on this side.
Oh, my storm is coming.
christina pazsitzky
No, dude, it's an arrow, and you're killing that motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm killing a wolf on my neck.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, dog.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I do want knuckle tats.
I do like those.
Yeah?
What do you want?
Okay, this is the deal I made.
How about balls?
joe rogan
Balls on each knuckle.
christina pazsitzky
B-A-L. Wait, B-A-L. No, just little balls.
joe rogan
Tiny little hairy balls.
christina pazsitzky
Oh!
unidentified
On each knuckle.
christina pazsitzky
I pick my kid up from kindergarten.
I'm like, what's up?
joe rogan
Hey, what's up, ladies?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You'd always wear a glove like Michael Jackson.
People go, what's going on with her?
Did the heroin one night.
I got balls on my knuckles.
christina pazsitzky
I like how they look.
unidentified
Tough.
joe rogan
What would you get?
christina pazsitzky
Okay, so here's what I was thinking of.
When Tom and I got fuck you money, there's a number in my mind that I would get F-U-C-K-Y-O-U and then a dollar sign.
Ooh, I like that.
Yeah, and then I'll be like, they'll be all, why'd you get those knuckle tats?
I'm like, because I got fuck you money, bitch.
Like, you're just out.
You're out.
Like, you're just peace out.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can do whatever you want.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, dog.
joe rogan
Well, your guys are out now.
You're independent.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know if I'm fuck you money out.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're pretty fuck you money compared to most people.
What you are is the most important part of fuck you money.
You're completely independent from any system.
You do whatever you guys want.
It's amazing because you're completely self-sustaining with the podcast and your fans.
You have an ecosystem going on.
Everything's great.
You know, you guys are providing great content and great shows and everybody loves it and they share it and it keeps growing.
The thing about, like, podcasts and stuff like that is, like, you can tell, like, some of them just keep growing.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And some of them do not.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
They just do not.
What's the secret sauce?
What's the secret sauce?
joe rogan
I think people just get bored with people.
Yeah.
They get tired of the way people treat people or, you know, maybe their approach to life is tiresome.
christina pazsitzky
If it's too one note, I think that bothers me.
joe rogan
Some people never really let people in.
It's always kind of a bullshit thing.
You never really get to the real person.
Every admission is just to make other people feel better about them.
It's all calculated.
It's all insincere.
People talk about...
Sometimes people will talk about stuff and you go, man, I'm not buying it with this dude.
This does not feel like a person who really either cares about what he's talking about or...
You know what I mean?
They're just doing it because they think...
They're like an actor.
Like when Amber Heard was on trial.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that was the greatest acting gig of her life.
joe rogan
Right.
But it's shit.
She's doing terrible.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
When you're watching it, it's like, you know what I'm saying?
It's not resonating.
But with some people, some people will talk and it resonates.
You go, that person is, they're there.
This is what they're really thinking about, is what they really believe, and I can get behind that.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, she's the...
I think because people can smell bullshit.
joe rogan
People smell bullshit way better than we'd like to think.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, she's bullshit.
joe rogan
We're not 100% at it, but we're pretty fucking good.
christina pazsitzky
But then there are people that believe her, so then what the fuck is wrong with them?
joe rogan
Crazy bitches.
unidentified
They find each other and like, she's right!
joe rogan
Johnny's an asshole!
unidentified
I heard he did a cavity search on her looking for bags of coke in her vagina!
christina pazsitzky
That was hot.
unidentified
That was the best one.
joe rogan
That was a good one.
Because that's not the first time she's even hinted about having bags of coke in her vagina.
She's probably had him up there before.
That's how he knew to look.
I would never check my wife's vagina for bags of coke.
I guarantee you she's never had him up there.
christina pazsitzky
Never.
joe rogan
But that girl, he's like, where's the coke?
I know where it is.
christina pazsitzky
Is it in her purse?
It's in her vagina.
joe rogan
I don't even know if it's a true story, but if it was, just the fact that she said it, what kind of life are you living?
There's not a normal, healthy woman out there who's going to relate to this.
A normal, healthy woman who wants a normal, healthy man in her life who's like, hold on, what are you guys doing?
He's got his hand in your pussy, using you like a goddamn puppet because he's checking for coke bags?
Where's the coke, Amber?
unidentified
Where is it?
joe rogan
Where's the coke?
unidentified
I can't find it, but I know you took it, and I need coke.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, and like, who would have thought that this trial...
Would correct his public persona.
It most certainly has.
You're like, wait, this fucking insanity is doing him a benefit.
I mean, I would not have taken that risk personally.
I'd be like, ah, let's just...
joe rogan
I think he knew.
I think he knew all he had to do is get her on the stand.
christina pazsitzky
And everyone would see.
joe rogan
Get her on the stand.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And he goes first.
joe rogan
He goes first.
100%.
He has to go first.
He has to go first because he establishes a base of like, well, he's definitely done some stupid shit.
He definitely does too much coke and drinks too much and he's full of chaos and everything.
But right now, Sober seems like that's who he really is.
He seems like a really nice guy.
christina pazsitzky
And he talked very slowly.
unidentified
Very slowly.
And he has a very weird accent.
christina pazsitzky
What's the accent now?
joe rogan
It's bullshit.
christina pazsitzky
What is this?
unidentified
It's a bullshit accent.
christina pazsitzky
Where is he living?
joe rogan
It's bullshit.
It's bullshit.
christina pazsitzky
In France or in?
joe rogan
I'm living in the world.
I'm a citizen of the world.
unidentified
He's an actor.
christina pazsitzky
That's it.
You got it.
You got it.
He's an actor.
Wait, do more.
Do more.
unidentified
Amber, at one point in time, seemed to have lost the cocaine.
joe rogan
I merely looked in her pussy.
I could see some places where she couldn't.
christina pazsitzky
And she made a defecation.
joe rogan
You know what?
This has been really good for people that felt were jealous about movie stars.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
Will Smith smacking Chris Rock and his relationship with Jada being examined and then this Johnny Depp thing.
It's like, oh, that's not fun.
Like, that life is not good.
christina pazsitzky
Well, because money, look...
joe rogan
It's fame, too.
christina pazsitzky
Fame is not fantastic.
Here's what fame is great for.
Well, hello, Joe Rogan.
Welcome to the restaurant.
We have a table right for you.
joe rogan
That's nice.
christina pazsitzky
That's amazing.
People are happy to see you.
They're always nice to you.
It's awesome.
Money's great because you don't have to worry about the day-to-dayness.
But guess what?
You still have to deal with human problems.
joe rogan
Yes, you have to deal with relationships, too.
christina pazsitzky
Listen, when I do my special, I was in the makeup chair, and the next I go, yeah, but in 12 hours I'm going to be wiping asses.
Like, this is not, you know, like I'm going to be changing diapers.
joe rogan
Right, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
That's life.
joe rogan
That's real life, yeah.
But you have that contrast, and I think that's what's really important.
And that's one of the things that does happen when you become a parent, is you recognize that you have to take care of these kids, these little beautiful human beings that you're intimately connected to.
And that's...
It's so much more important than everything else.
So everything else, even though you have to focus on it and concentrate on it, you become disciplined and even more ambitious because of it, I think, for a lot of people, it's not as important.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
And so because of that, it gives you more perspective.
The people, their career is everything.
It's their only thing and everything, whether they sell tickets or they become weird and needy.
christina pazsitzky
Let's talk about that.
I agree.
joe rogan
I could send you some Instagram stories that you need to follow.
christina pazsitzky
Me too.
Let's do it.
I've got a few.
Yeah, I've got a few too.
joe rogan
I know who we're talking about.
Some people went crazy.
But some people got on cable shows and then they got a little bit of a following because of these cable shows.
christina pazsitzky
Cut this out.
unidentified
No, no, no.
christina pazsitzky
We're going to know who we're talking about.
joe rogan
We're fine.
christina pazsitzky
We're good.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's just a mental illness problem.
It comes with a lot of performers.
The type of people that seek out being a comic, that's not a normal person for the most part.
christina pazsitzky
There's a hole deep inside of us.
We want validation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
But then here's what happens.
You get successful and you're like, oh, oh shit, my parents still hate me.
Oh, oh shit, guess what?
Everything's the same.
Same shit, different toilet.
joe rogan
But you get better at being a person, and as you get better being a person, you shift your attention from needing validation and needing attention to getting better at what you do that you love.
christina pazsitzky
100%, yep.
joe rogan
And then your energy goes in a healthy place, and then it becomes getting better at your act, killing, better at putting together a special, better at podcasts.
Yeah, that's what happens.
christina pazsitzky
You know what, too, changed with me?
It's not so much needing to be heard and seen, which I think was the motivator in the beginning.
unidentified
Like, you guys are going to listen to me.
christina pazsitzky
Now it's like, oh, I want to do a service.
Back.
Hence the crazy outfits and like, I'm gonna fucking entertain you guys.
Like, you had babysitters, you had to hire, you left the shittiness of your day-to-day to get here, and I'm gonna take care of you.
It's more of like giving than just like, oh, my hole, my fucking needy shit.
unidentified
Yeah, gimme, gimme, gimme.
christina pazsitzky
Gross.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
But that energy, but you're a giver.
You know that.
That's why you do fucking four-hour podcasts, you know, five days a week.
You're a giver.
I think you've always had that.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's definitely, you can't have this attitude that you're doing this all for you.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
You just have to be doing the thing the best you can, and the thing is something that other people enjoy.
But any time that you're spending doing it for you is wasted time.
Like you, obviously you reap the rewards.
I'm not saying it's not a benefit to you, but you can't think of it as you're doing it for you.
You won't do it good.
You got to think about doing the thing the best you can so that people enjoy it.
That's what I do.
I only think of that.
christina pazsitzky
Doing it the best of your ability on that given day.
joe rogan
I do it the best I can on any given day.
Yeah.
And, you know, I have better shows and shows that were like, eh, I talk too much.
Maybe I should have shut the fuck up and let the other person talk.
You know, you never know.
It's like it's all in real time and it's live.
And that's why I also have a ritual before podcasts.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, what is that?
joe rogan
It's a workout ritual.
I make sure that I get a really hard workout, and then I do the sauna.
On days where I do cardio, I do the cold plunge.
Days where I don't do cardio, I just do the sauna.
christina pazsitzky
You're amazing.
How long is this?
What is this?
joe rogan
From the time I start to the time I've done, it's just about two and a half hours, including sauna.
Because it depends on what kind of workout I like to do.
But if I do kickboxing, so it's like an hour of the kickboxing, but then it's a solid half hour plus of stretching.
You know, I have to stretch afterwards.
Like long-term, heavy stretching.
Because that's the best time when you're exhausted to loosen everything up.
And then it's the sauna cold plunge.
Back and forth, which is like 45 minutes, maybe even more.
christina pazsitzky
I love this.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then I come here and I'm just so free.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
I come here, I'm so relaxed.
christina pazsitzky
So relaxed.
joe rogan
And it's so much harder than anything else I'll ever have to do in life.
christina pazsitzky
What is?
joe rogan
The sauna and the cold plunge and the workouts are so hard that when I get in here, like complicated subjects and, you know, whether or not people are going to be angry about your positions on things or that doesn't mean anything to me.
It's fine.
unidentified
It's fine.
christina pazsitzky
Well, because you're so centered.
joe rogan
But it's like a process to get to that spot.
christina pazsitzky
But that's also the beauty of being an adult, is you go, hey dude, I know I got this in my head, I gotta fucking manage.
You take the responsibility for this, and you go, I know what I need to do.
I do Pilates, I meditate, I fucking do yoga as well, I have to go for a walk, I have to be in nature.
If I don't do these things, I go insane.
And I'm a shitty human being.
joe rogan
I think you are everyone.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think everyone is that.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
But we ignore that aspect because it's inconvenient.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we decide that we don't need exercise.
I think, in general, families all across the board listening to this, you'd be happier and healthier if you all went on a walk together.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just do something together where you're physically active together and you just do some natural human stuff.
Play a little, have a little game, do something where you're out in the backyard or you're going for a walk around the neighborhood or just fucking do something together.
Get physically active.
You gotta do something.
We're all the same.
I think I have extreme requirements, but that's also because I built my body into this thing that needs those things.
christina pazsitzky
Well, do you think you have more energy?
Were you always energetic as a kid?
joe rogan
I was always energetic, yeah.
I was crazy.
I was bouncing off the walls.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, my son, my older boy is like that, just like that.
joe rogan
And I bet your older boy, if he had bad parents, they'd medicate him.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I would never, yeah.
joe rogan
Of course you'd never.
christina pazsitzky
Put him into soccer.
joe rogan
Of course.
But there are some people out there that don't like a child that has too much fucking energy and they want to medicate him.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that's a crazy talk.
joe rogan
I had a neighbor that did that.
unidentified
That's a crazy talk.
joe rogan
They had a kid and they were like, the kid has this and that.
I'm like, the kid seems fine to me.
christina pazsitzky
You know, I'm really reluctant to label.
I think we're really so quick to label everybody.
Like, just chill the fuck out.
I mean...
joe rogan
I think school is boring as fuck for kids.
christina pazsitzky
I think so too.
joe rogan
And most kids, like, I thought that I was not interested in school.
I was not interested in education until I got out of school.
And then I realized, oh, it wasn't that I wasn't interested in educating myself.
I was not interested in being talked to by morons.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were not good at it.
Because I'm not saying morons like they weren't intelligent, but they weren't good at talking to people.
And if you're going to be a professor, an effective professor, you have to be engaging.
You can't just relay the information because that sucks.
That's like a shitty comedian that just says the jokes and you have no delivery.
There's something to being a professor that you're persuading someone to be enthusiastic about a subject.
And some people don't have that in them.
And if you go to school with most, and there's a lot of those people out there, unfortunately, and you go to school with them, you're like, boring, boring, boring, get me out.
And then one day, you stumble upon a YouTube video where some guy is talking about black holes.
unidentified
And he's engaged, and he's into it, and he's like, oh my god, I give a fuck about black holes.
joe rogan
Now I want to research black holes.
christina pazsitzky
Well, there was a point in college or in high school where I was like, oh, the teacher's just telling me what's in the book.
So why don't I just read the book and I'm not going to come to class?
And I did that in college for one class I never even showed up to.
And then I just read it and then I did fine.
I got a B or something in the class.
Like, what are you doing?
But enthusiasm is more important.
I agree.
joe rogan
It's very important.
But the information is important, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But enthusiasm is something that gets people engaged.
It's the same with your act.
If you go on stage and phone it in, people are not interested.
But if you go on stage and you're fucking super engaged.
And I was very fortunate to have a few teachers on a few subjects that were really good.
And you're like, oh, why do I love English with Mrs. Wilson?
Because Mrs. Wilson is locked the fuck in.
She's locked in and she's talking to you about these things.
It's kind of fun.
It's exciting.
I had a science professor when I was in eighth grade, a science teacher, and I remember he said, you want to really hurt your brain, he goes, just go outside and look up.
Look up and realize that that is infinity, and it just goes on forever.
Just don't think about it for a second.
Just keep thinking about how big it means to have no end.
christina pazsitzky
Fuck, that's cute.
joe rogan
That guy planted that shit in my head forever.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I was in eighth grade.
That guy was very enthusiastic.
He was a really good teacher.
And he was in a shit neighborhood, too.
That's when we lived in Jamaica Plain.
There was like 17-year-old kids in my school that would show up for like the first couple weeks and then drop out again because they had missed so many classes and they had failed so many years that they were 17 and they were in the eighth grade.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my god, that's so sad.
joe rogan
Normal.
It was normal.
They would be there in the beginning of school and then they would quit after a couple weeks.
They would just drop out.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
It was a bad neighborhood.
But that guy was a fucking...
That one guy planting that one thing in my head at that time.
christina pazsitzky
It just takes one teacher.
I had a philosophy professor like that.
He's dead now.
joe rogan
That's philosophical.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
And he taught existentialism.
Dr. Bob Makis.
joe rogan
Oh, Bob.
christina pazsitzky
He's dead.
joe rogan
Wherefore art thou, Bob?
christina pazsitzky
He was so rad.
He was a boxer at one point in his life.
He built a log cabin.
He built his own fucking log cabin in the woods.
He was one of those guys that just lived it.
And then by the time he taught philosophy, he was just so inspiring.
I liked him.
He hooked up with one of his students though.
They got married.
joe rogan
I was never funny in high school, but I was really good at making funny cartoons.
unidentified
Because I was an artist.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
Because I wanted to be a comic book artist.
That's what I really wanted to be.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was a comic book illustrator, so I'd draw those kind of things.
And I had this one teacher that was a Vietnam vet, and he was a little cracked.
He was just a little cracked.
And one time someone asked for a pencil, and he pulled the fucking drawer out of his desk and threw it across the room with the pencils in it.
And we're all like, holy shit.
And so I would always draw this guy.
He was a short guy.
Shorter than me, and I'm short.
And I would always draw this guy standing on a stool.
So I always drew cartoons of him, but he was always standing on a stool.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And so he said to me once, he goes, what is that?
What do you got there?
I go, I drew a cartoon of you.
And he goes, oh, you looked at it.
He goes, oh, the stool.
Oh, God, because I'm short.
Great.
But he took it.
Like, he was laughing.
He was laughing.
christina pazsitzky
That's huge.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got kicked out of another class because I drew this Spanish teacher without her makeup on.
Because she had crazy makeup.
She had so much makeup on.
So I put her dress with the head of a werewolf.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, that's great!
joe rogan
I was 15. I thought it was funny.
christina pazsitzky
That's great.
Subversive.
joe rogan
I got kicked out of that class.
christina pazsitzky
I bet.
joe rogan
And then there was another lady who was an anthropology teacher and she was fascinated by all the chimpanzee studies and all these different things that people were doing.
christina pazsitzky
That you love.
That's your wheelhouse.
joe rogan
And so there was this kid in class who was a high school football player who was a real ass kisser and he was like so obviously like sucking up to her to get better grades and so I drew a cartoon of him banging her monkey style.
I would get in the class early and I would draw them on the blackboard so that and then I would pull the screen down so that like behind the screen there would be a cartoon.
christina pazsitzky
It's amazing.
joe rogan
I got kicked out of history for that one.
That was Mr. Holman.
Mr. Holman did not like my cartoons of him.
christina pazsitzky
Damn, dude.
Did you make it through high school?
joe rogan
Yeah, barely.
I used to have nightmares when I got out of high school that I failed and I had to go back.
Because I didn't want to be a high school dropout.
I just wanted to get out.
Just let me get out.
Let me get out.
And I got out of high school.
And then I went to college.
I went to UMass Boston.
And I went for three years.
But I only went because I did want people thinking I was a loser.
Most of the time, I didn't even have a full course load.
I was just wasting my time there.
I wasn't paying attention.
I thought it was something that you had to do.
And this is when I was still competing, and then I was doing stand-up.
And when I was doing stand-up in the beginning, it was like, God, I'm fucking terrible at it.
How could I imagine that I could ever have a career doing this?
So I was keeping my options open by still attending college, but it was just a giant waste of time.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I enjoyed formal education.
I think for me, because I studied philosophy and I love to read those books, and I look back at it really fondly because that's the only four years of my life, or actually five, I took a year off, where I could really just sit and think and smoke cigarettes and get weird and think about the world, you know?
And it taught me how to think, clearly.
joe rogan
That's important for people.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm worried about that experience today for kids, because I worry they'll be ideologically captured.
There's so much woke nonsense on colleges these days that I don't think it allows for diversity of thought.
christina pazsitzky
I agree.
joe rogan
The progressive nature of so many colleges.
It's just like a natural inclination that young people have towards You know being charitable and kind and doing better than their parents did and stomping out Discrimination and all those things are like good instincts, but those good instincts sometimes prop up really fucking divisive and shitty behavior because you're limiting the way people can approach things So it's your way the highway and maybe someone is smarter than you and they have a different perspective That's the issue I take with all of this.
christina pazsitzky
It's okay.
You said the inclinations are noble.
joe rogan
Right.
christina pazsitzky
But I think you cannot censor other people.
Don't tell me what the fuck to say.
No, you can't.
And also, maybe listen.
Maybe that guy's got a good argument.
I think that's what's dangerous in academia, is they're kowtowing to these crybaby weenies that can't take the other side of the argument.
Like, what is a safe space?
What are you talking about?
Trigger warning.
It's so stupid.
joe rogan
It's also, there's no real representation of alternative viewpoints.
unidentified
That's what's scary.
joe rogan
Conservative viewpoints in colleges.
It's a weird thing.
Because I know there's some intelligent conservative people, but it seems like they all go into business.
christina pazsitzky
They all go, yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, makes sense.
Right?
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it does make sense.
unidentified
They really do.
joe rogan
Because the conservative liberals are the ones that want to blame, you know, white privilege and the reason why black people don't hike.
Whatever it is, you know, whatever crazy shit that they're involved in, in grievance studies.
I don't know if you ever paid attention to it, but Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay, and Peter Boghossian out of the University of Portland.
Is that where they were?
They put together these false studies like homoerotic behavior in a dog park and rape culture in a dog park.
No kidding.
They wrote these fake things like, oh, fat bodybuilding was one.
They wrote a paper.
Peer-reviewed paper on fat bodybuilding.
It was reviewed and rewarded.
It actually won a prize.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my gosh!
joe rogan
So they wrote these fake papers to show how ridiculous academic studies are.
A lot of the way you guys are approaching these subjects is beyond parody.
So much so that parody is indistinguishable.
You can send these parody studies, these parody papers, and people will not just review them, but they will award you for them.
unidentified
That's amazing.
joe rogan
So these guys all got in trouble for it.
christina pazsitzky
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Helen's actually in England.
James Lindsay's been on the podcast a few times, and Peter's been on as well.
And they all got in fucking deep shit.
Peter wound up leaving the university.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
And Lindsay has become sort of an online guy.
He's just an online commentator.
And I've had him on a bunch of times.
He's a brilliant guy.
But instead of recognizing that there's a real problem with these things, so much so that someone can make a parody and it's indistinguishable.
And a really funny parody.
Pull up the dog park work because it's so funny.
It's so funny.
It's also, the way that they reviewed it, they must have been so accepting that they didn't even realize that the amount of time that he said he watched dogs fuck at a dog park is physically impossible.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Wait, and here's my favorite, is that they integrated these words like queer performity.
That's just so great.
joe rogan
Look what it says.
Expression of concern.
Human reactions to rape culture and queer performity at urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon.
It's fucking amazing.
So they studied this and they said that they put in, I think they said they put in an impossible amount of time.
Like you would have to be there every day for 10 years.
And they're like, yeah, good.
Amazing paper.
unidentified
What the fuck did you just say?
joe rogan
What is queer performity?
What's queer performity?
christina pazsitzky
At a dog park?
It's a buzzword.
It sounds like inclusivity, performative aspect.
joe rogan
They're not queer.
They're dog rapists.
They're raping each other.
Dogs just hold each other down.
Dogs try to hump you.
They don't care.
They grab your leg and start fucking it.
christina pazsitzky
My dog rapist is fucking amazing.
joe rogan
I mean, they're all just piling each other.
unidentified
It's horrible.
joe rogan
You see those little dogs that are trying to get away?
christina pazsitzky
My dog used to get raped a lot at the park, FIFO. He was a rescue.
He didn't have a good instance.
unidentified
He was a fucking idiot.
christina pazsitzky
So when I studied philosophy in school, we started with the Greeks, and then you go into modernity, and you learn the Enlightenment.
And then at the very end of my—I went to a USF, so it's a Jesuit college.
So it was very steeped in traditional, whatever, colonial ideas, whatever.
The male-white colonial tradition.
The evil male-white colonialism, yeah.
But all very logical, very rational.
I learned about logic and how syllogisms work and Venn diagrams.
And then at the very end of my education in the last year, we learned postmodernism.
And it was all about this stuff.
Like, there's no meta-narrative.
There's a bunch of little narratives and everyone has their own experience.
And, you know, Jacques Derrida, we're writing in the margins of the book.
And I remember my professors being like, okay, so here's postmodernism.
It's a little fucking nutty.
It's not going to take off.
It's the fucking stupidest thing you've ever written.
But we have to let you know about the stuff before we let you go.
And it was an afterthought to my education.
Cut to 20 years later, and it's the dominant way of thinking.
And it's so illogical to somebody who's learned proper logic and Western philosophy.
And you're like, wait, this is the stuff I was told is complete horseshit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And now it's like we're in the upside down and there's no men and there's no women and dogs are rapists and blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
What do you think caused that?
What do you think caused that to take over?
christina pazsitzky
I think it became sexy.
I think a lot of these postmodern thinkers became public icons like your Derrida's and your...
I love this guy, Baudrillard.
He was very cool.
The French.
I think it became sexy to know these buzzwords.
It became cool.
So you teach kids something cool, and then they run with it, and then it takes off.
joe rogan
They like forming good sentences that sound intelligent.
It's very satisfying.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
I was watching this girl on TikTok describe how going on a diet is fatphobic.
And let me break that down for you.
christina pazsitzky
Sure.
joe rogan
And she breaks it down.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
But she's saying it in this kind of condescending but educational way.
unidentified
Big words.
joe rogan
Let me break that down for you.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you.
joe rogan
This is why going on a diet is fatphobic.
And she's explaining how you should just exist.
You shouldn't go on a diet.
Because if you go on a diet, you're giving in to fatphobia.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, you're not trying to be healthy.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, ignoring the science of health, but enforcing the ideological principles of wokeness.
unidentified
The dominant male patriarchal archetype that tells you that you're fattening it.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I love it when they string all those words together.
christina pazsitzky
Me too.
joe rogan
It's just gobbledygook.
It's just nonsense.
It's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
christina pazsitzky
My favorite is like, I'm non-binary.
My pronouns are fairy-weathered.
I'm also da-da-da-da-da-da.
And pansexual.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm pansexual and non-binary.
unidentified
Wee!
joe rogan
Must be fun.
christina pazsitzky
Nobody cares.
joe rogan
You get to coast.
You get to be in the LBGT community with little to no effort.
You don't have to blow anybody.
Right?
You just say you're non-binary.
You don't even have to fuck guys.
You could have sex with girls, just like normal, and be non-binary, and you're in.
You're in the LBGT queue.
christina pazsitzky
See, that's why I think it's wrong.
I think you should have to suck dicks to say you're part...
You know what I'm saying?
If you're going to claim...
unidentified
What if you're A? Which one's A? Asexual.
joe rogan
They let them in too.
christina pazsitzky
That's not fair.
joe rogan
People don't even want to fuck.
Who wants to fuck more than gay guys?
And they're in that group.
That's what's crazy.
How come you guys aren't fucking as much as us?
All they do is fucking up a storm.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
Gay guys have the most fun.
joe rogan
They fuck up a storm.
So it's them.
They're at the top of the fuck pyramid.
And then you've got everybody else underneath them.
christina pazsitzky
God, could you imagine how much fun it would have been?
Like a gay guy.
joe rogan
Before the AIDS? Well, yeah, pre-AIDS, obvious.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Even like, okay, like late 90s, pre-woke.
We had a hold on HIV. Things were calmed the fuck down.
I lived in San Francisco.
joe rogan
Did you ever have a time where you were worried that you could have caught it?
christina pazsitzky
All the time.
From the time I, from 1984 until I got married.
Because they put the fear of God into us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Remember that shit?
joe rogan
Remember when Magic got it?
christina pazsitzky
I do.
Magical Johnson got it.
joe rogan
I remember being in my car driving, listening to the radio, and they announced that Magic Johnson had HIV, and I was like, oh my god.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Looks great.
christina pazsitzky
And Cookie stayed with him.
joe rogan
Well, he got the right medicine.
You know, they use those protease inhibitors.
No, I don't think it's AZT. AZT was the one they stopped using because it was killing them quicker than AIDS was.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, but he got it.
joe rogan
AZT was a complicated one.
I think...
The history of AZT and HIV, that's a long one to go into.
But the protease inhibitors, I think, were the big drugs that help people.
They get to a point where they don't even test positive for it anymore, which is wild.
christina pazsitzky
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it just clears it out of their system.
Jeff Scott had it.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, no.
joe rogan
We used to share joints with him with no fear.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Imagine.
Because when I was in the 90s, I was so scared.
I thought of times that I had sex without a condom on the road, like if I had gotten someone that had HIV, and they gave it to me, and I didn't even know, and it has a 10-year incubation period.
I remember there was fear.
christina pazsitzky
Some road beef.
joe rogan
Terrifying stuff.
When you're 22, 23 years old, you don't make the best fucking safest choices when you're out there.
And then all of a sudden I'm taking an insurance test to see if I've got HIV. I'm like, oh my God, I was fucking terrified.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Because when I was 23 or 24, you thought everybody was going to die of it.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
That was the thing.
We were waiting for the shoe to drop because it was that 10-year incubation period they scared you with.
christina pazsitzky
Yep.
joe rogan
He does a 10-year incubation period.
So for 10 years you could be fine.
And then all of a sudden it starts...
christina pazsitzky
Well, I remember in the beginning, they thought you could get AIDS from cat saliva.
unidentified
And my mother was like, don't pet cats because the saliva gives you AIDS. Do you remember about mosquito scare?
christina pazsitzky
Yes, I do remember the mosquito scare.
unidentified
Mosquitoes could give you AIDS. Mosquitoes might give you AIDS. Oh my God.
joe rogan
Everybody was scared.
christina pazsitzky
I remember when Tom and I did South Africa.
unidentified
Like a decade ago.
christina pazsitzky
And he goes, I'm such a dick.
We're like, just try, like, what's the most offensive thing you could say?
And he goes up and he's like, who here doesn't have AIDS? And people clap, like, I don't have AIDS. And you're like, oh, there was so...
unidentified
And so he said that on stage?
Oh my God.
Who here doesn't have AIDS? Oh my God.
christina pazsitzky
It was so funny.
joe rogan
You know they really do think that HIV came from someone that had contact with a monkey.
christina pazsitzky
I do know that.
And here's the deal, is that I say that to people and they're like, you're out of your mind, Christina.
I'm like, no, it was believed that a guy had sex with a monkey, right?
joe rogan
No, they don't think that anymore.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
No, they think it was from butchering a monkey.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They think when they're cutting up monkeys for bush meat, and they do do that, that they might have had a nick in their hand or get the blood in their hand.
If you're living in the jungle, you get scratches all over you, right?
If you get blood from this HIV-infected monkey on those scratches, that was one of the theories.
christina pazsitzky
But what about the gay flight attendant who had butt sex with the monkey?
joe rogan
I don't think that's real.
I think that's like the Richard Gere gerbil rumor.
Or the Rod Stewart stomach pump rumor.
christina pazsitzky
Remember that one?
Yeah.
There's so much cum in his stomach.
joe rogan
Can you imagine how much you have to hate somebody to spread that rumor?
And then you've got to go on the radio and go, I just want to let everybody know I did not suck all those cocks and have to get me fucking stomach pumped.
christina pazsitzky
Rod Stewart is such a cocksman.
Nobody is like, oh, that guy's gay.
No way.
joe rogan
Well, sometimes it's a trick, right?
Sometimes they pretend to be a cocksman.
They really just...
christina pazsitzky
I didn't even realize that.
Oh my God, remember growing up and we all thought that Liberace wasn't gay?
joe rogan
Um, I never remembered thinking he wasn't gay.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I bought the narrative.
joe rogan
I think I didn't have a narrative on him.
You know, I didn't think about it because I don't give a fuck about a guy playing the piano.
Unless he's Jerry Lee Lewis or Billy Joel.
christina pazsitzky
You didn't have a poster of Liberace in a young Joe Rogan's room?
joe rogan
But, you know, Liberace's early stuff is bizarre.
christina pazsitzky
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Tell me.
joe rogan
There's a song called When Liberace Winks at Me, and it was like a famous song where a woman was singing, and Liberace was just playing the piano, and he would look over at her and wink, and she would like...
So it was like her pretending that she was in love with Liberace.
She's this giant fan of Liberace, and Liberace pretending that he's seducing her.
Winking at her.
christina pazsitzky
So he's not gay.
joe rogan
The whole song is when Liberace winks at me.
You gotta look at us.
No, we're gonna play it right now.
And we have to think about it from the context, before you play it, you gotta think about it from the context of the time.
I mean, this is like, what is this, like 1950 or something like that?
christina pazsitzky
I love this.
This is before gays existed.
joe rogan
Well, they couldn't be out, that's for sure.
christina pazsitzky
No, no, of course.
joe rogan
Can you play it?
I'm going to say 55. Can you imagine having to do these ridiculous videos to pretend that you're into women?
Well, I mean, that was the only way.
And back then, you couldn't, you know, there was nothing you could do.
christina pazsitzky
So sad.
joe rogan
Is it Peggy King?
Is that the woman?
She's featured in it.
Can you just play it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's fun.
It really is.
christina pazsitzky
I haven't heard of this.
I'm so excited.
joe rogan
It's a window into another world.
So he's on TV playing piano.
And she's sitting alone in her drab apartment.
Bored out of her fucking mind.
And he's playing piano.
He winked.
Stop, stop, pause.
This has got to be a better version of it.
This is terrible.
It sounds like shit.
There's another version I've heard that sounds pretty clear.
christina pazsitzky
Look how beautiful people were back then.
joe rogan
Even with her cigarette.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, she was so beautiful.
joe rogan
Sitting there smoking that dirty cigarette.
christina pazsitzky
I loved her and her hair rolled up and just so elegant.
joe rogan
Do we have another version that sounds...
That sounds fucked, right?
Didn't it sound fucked to you?
unidentified
Yeah, but I had no way to know that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
All right, let's just play it.
We're dragging it out too long.
But when you watch it, you've got to think about this 1950s whatever it was scene.
Look at that.
Look at her cigarette.
Totally normal to have a cigarette back then.
Pregnant women.
Pregnant women.
My mom smoked with me.
christina pazsitzky
Drinking?
unidentified
Of course.
christina pazsitzky
Low birth weight is good.
unidentified
Look at her.
joe rogan
Jackson kind of has a LBGT hair style going, doesn't she?
unidentified
Look at him Oh Oh Oh My beaver seems Oh Oh, I thought I said my beaver quivered.
joe rogan
That too.
Watch this.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
That's what happens.
You see the clink?
You see he winks and he's got like a spark?
When he winks it gives you a little star where his eye is.
That was heavy duty special effects.
Somebody had to go in on those frames and like make the star over his eyeball.
christina pazsitzky
But you know this is the studio being like, alright guys we all know Liberace.
joe rogan
Why is it the wink?
unidentified
Look at her sitting there.
christina pazsitzky
What's her tiny desk?
joe rogan
I don't know but she's hot.
unidentified
So weird.
christina pazsitzky
She's gorgeous.
unidentified
When was this again?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I'm just taking a guess.
christina pazsitzky
Man, it looks like the 50s or 60s.
joe rogan
I think it's, well, it's black and white, which was, when did color TV start?
unidentified
What was this?
joe rogan
Because they didn't have music videos, you know, it wasn't a music video.
Probably a television show.
It was probably a television show.
I don't know.
It said Peggy Lee, right?
christina pazsitzky
This is Peggy Lee?
joe rogan
Isn't that what they said?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
She's Peggy Lee.
joe rogan
Oh, Peggy King?
Is that what it says?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Not Libby something.
Because you know this is a PR move of like, hey, we know that Liberace is into guys.
We have to completely shift that so no one gets a whiff.
That is, of course.
joe rogan
Could be.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
It could also just be like that's the kind of music they made back then.
Yeah, I don't think that was like...
Even if you told people, like if Liberace butt-fucked a gymnasium full of football players, it doesn't...
Like, who are they going to tell?
Go ahead, tell anybody.
You know, there's like NBC, CBS, and ABC, and that's where Liberace live.
Spread your rumor.
He's out there with fucking giant sequins on, banging guys.
unidentified
Go tell.
christina pazsitzky
Did you see the movie with Matt Damon?
joe rogan
Amazing.
christina pazsitzky
Amazing.
joe rogan
Kurt Douglas as Liberace.
christina pazsitzky
So good.
joe rogan
Amazing.
christina pazsitzky
There's a few parts of my favorite.
The favorite is when he gets so much surgery that he can't sleep with his eyes closed.
Yes.
And then number two, when he makes his lover, Matt Damon, look like a younger version of him.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
He made him get a chin implant.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Is that true?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes, it's real.
Oh, I went down a rabbit hole.
Joey Diaz had one of the best bits ever about that documentary.
It's a fucking amazing bit.
unidentified
There's no real FA words again.
christina pazsitzky
I love when he says that bit.
joe rogan
I wish I could remember all the parts of the bit, but the point is that all happened.
christina pazsitzky
That was real.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He really did get that guy to do that.
christina pazsitzky
Could you imagine fucking?
You're like, I want to fuck a younger version of me.
How narcissistic.
I mean, do people masturbate into the mirror like American Psycho?
joe rogan
I bet Liberace's jack went off in front of a mirror before.
christina pazsitzky
Wild.
joe rogan
Yes, wild.
christina pazsitzky
Wait, that's so weird.
joe rogan
See if you can find the actual guy's face from behind the candelabra, the Liberace's lover who got plastic surgery.
Is that him?
Yeah, that's him.
Or is that a wax figure?
No, I think that's him.
But as time went on, he got more and more surgery.
Like he got his chin done to look like a Liberace.
christina pazsitzky
Stop.
joe rogan
Yeah, wild.
Libroxy's there with a fucking penis pump just sending it home every day.
He died in 88, huh?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
Wow, he got out just in time.
christina pazsitzky
I remember when he died.
My mother was devastated, and she was so surprised that he was gay.
I'm like, oh, look at the doctor.
joe rogan
Rob Lowe was the doctor.
christina pazsitzky
The California diet?
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
The pills?
So good.
joe rogan
What is the actual guy's face after surgery?
See if you can find the actual guy's face.
Because he had some wild...
Surgery.
He was on one of those television shows, one of those talk shows.
He was on...
They were talking to him about the film.
And was this accurate?
Was this really what Liberace was like?
And he's like telling a story and you're looking at his face and you're just like, fucking yikes.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, buddy.
Oh, poor baby.
joe rogan
Yeah, see?
So you see his chin?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like an artificial chin.
He got his chin done to look...
That's fucking wild.
I mean, the dude made him get a chin.
You think this chin is so sexy?
Well, you're gonna get one too.
And he just made him.
christina pazsitzky
Poor Scott.
joe rogan
Fuck Scott.
christina pazsitzky
He's like...
joe rogan
Take your lumps.
That's the life you chose.
christina pazsitzky
Would you do that for a lover?
It's like, how far would you go for a good life?
joe rogan
First of all, if Scott was a woman, I'd feel bad.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, but he's a guy.
unidentified
Fuck the guy.
joe rogan
Fuck you, Scott.
christina pazsitzky
See, why do we think fuck the guy?
That makes me sad.
joe rogan
Well, it's just how it works.
christina pazsitzky
I know, but I have...
Listen, I have tremendous...
Here's the deal.
My husband's out doing all the work right now.
He's out doing arenas.
He's in a different city every night.
I get to stay home and sleep in our bed.
joe rogan
That's great.
christina pazsitzky
Who won?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, really?
joe rogan
Are you in competition with each other?
What the fuck are you saying?
unidentified
No.
christina pazsitzky
No, I'm saying it's societally.
joe rogan
Oh.
Well, there's not a...
You know, you're winning if you enjoy your life.
christina pazsitzky
No, I know, but I feel bad for him.
joe rogan
You clearly enjoy your life and he clearly enjoys his life.
Yeah, but he chose to do this wacky tour.
I know, and I feel sad for him.
It'll be over, and he'll never do it again.
christina pazsitzky
But I hate that men...
You know what makes me sad is that men die early.
I think I heard on your podcast a million years ago, like their brains atrophy and they get like a...
joe rogan
Trying to make me feel bad?
unidentified
It's all your fault, and it's Joe Rogan's fault, and...
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
They die early.
joe rogan
You're very sympathetic to men.
But women have a lot of fucking problems, too.
christina pazsitzky
I know, I know.
joe rogan
We all do.
christina pazsitzky
Everyone's got it.
joe rogan
Humans, we have to do a lot better at taking care of ourselves, Christina.
christina pazsitzky
You're right.
We need to exercise.
joe rogan
We do.
And our minds, too.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
All of the above.
christina pazsitzky
And don't eat the phthalates.
joe rogan
Well, you're going to get those no matter what.
Don't microwave stuff with plastic on it.
Not good.
That shit's in your body, for sure.
That shit's in your body.
What do you got there?
unidentified
What's that?
joe rogan
There's a recent study they were just doing.
They've been able to detect microplastics in the blood for the first time.
Oh, fuck me.
In people's blood.
And everybody's got them.
They say you have so much microplastics that I think it's every week.
It might be every day.
You eat a credit card.
christina pazsitzky
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no, no.
No, no, it's not a year.
I think it's more than a year.
It was weird.
It was a weird number.
You might be right.
christina pazsitzky
Fuck, what do I have to do?
I have to grow my own food?
joe rogan
I want to say it was like a month.
I want to say it was like a credit card a month.
unidentified
Oh, it was every week.
christina pazsitzky
Every week?
joe rogan
Yeah, see, it's not a year.
It's a credit card every week.
Imagine that.
So a credit card.
When you were saying it, I was like, he's probably right.
It's probably a year.
And I exaggerated.
And then I'm like, no, I don't think so.
That's how nuts it is.
It's so nuts that knowing it's true doesn't help me.
I still can't imagine I'm really eating a credit card worth of plastic every week.
christina pazsitzky
What am I eating in it?
Is it the plastic bottles?
joe rogan
It's in everything.
It's a little microplastics and they slowly accumulate.
jamie vernon
It's in drinking water.
joe rogan
Everything.
Shellfish, beer.
unidentified
Milk.
joe rogan
I mean, it's fucking nuts.
It's in everything.
So these microplastics are, we've infested the world with microplastics.
christina pazsitzky
Cool.
joe rogan
And that's phthalates.
That's where the phthalates are coming from.
That's where all this, like, a lot of this gender bender shit is coming from, too.
christina pazsitzky
I remember that lady.
Do you know what's so funny about the gender stuff, by the way?
joe rogan
Five grams of plastic per week.
The equivalent of one credit card.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, fuck.
Don't tell me that.
Like, all my old school gay friends, like people my age that I've grown up with, I'll be like, what do you think about this whole gender stuff?
And they're like, it's fucking bullshit.
You know, like, my older gay dude friends are like, nah, I don't buy it.
I didn't do it.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
christina pazsitzky
And I'm like, well, I trust you.
I don't know.
Maybe it's just a way to, like, be different, you know?
joe rogan
My favorite was when Caitlyn Jenner didn't believe in gay marriage.
I was like, that is hardy-ha-ha-ha.
That was hardy-ha-ha-ha.
She's changed her tune since.
She believes in it now.
unidentified
Good for her.
joe rogan
But I think she was a kind of staunch Republican at one point.
I think maybe still is.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, she's still Republican.
joe rogan
She's hilarious.
christina pazsitzky
I follow her on Instagram.
joe rogan
It's like when Kanye has the MAGA hat on, no one knows what to do.
I don't know what to do.
The world's topsy-turvy!
christina pazsitzky
Now, do you think the world...
Every generation thinks the world is ending.
Are we just...
Aware of it more now?
joe rogan
No, things are happening.
There's things that are happening that could set in motion actions that could change civilization forever.
There's a lot of those things.
There's evidence of real corruption that's ignored.
There's real threats of war, including nuclear war with Russia.
There's real threats of some sort of a cyber war with China.
Like, there's weird...
Environmental problems that some people tell you don't have to worry about and other people tell you they're going to kill everybody.
You know, there's a lot going on now.
And then on top of that, you have natural disasters.
I mean, every six to eight hundred thousand years, Yellowstone blows.
And when it blows, it's a continent killer.
It's a continent killer.
It's going to wipe out almost everything on this continent.
And the last time it blew was 600,000 years ago.
And they have hundreds of earthquakes there.
Hundreds, thousands even in a year.
I think they said they have hundreds of earthquakes every month.
Like that's how many earthquakes they have at Yellowstone.
The ground is constantly rumbling.
There's geysers you can time because there's so much volcanic activity that the water shoots up at the specific amount of these increments.
Old Faithful.
christina pazsitzky
I've seen that in cartoons.
joe rogan
I've been to Old Faithful.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah?
joe rogan
That's fucking boiling water shooting out from underneath the earth.
But that's a volcano.
You know, they didn't even know about that until they flew satellites over it.
christina pazsitzky
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they flew satellites over it and they realized it was a caldera.
What's left is like the enormous crater of a volcano that was, I want to say it was like 300 kilometers wide.
So it's an enormous volcano, and it blows the top of it off, and it's just left with a crater.
So when it blows, it just kills everything.
California's dead.
Nevada, dead.
Oregon, dead.
Everyone up there, dead.
Everyone's dead.
Yeah.
If it blows, everyone's dead.
Like, all the way down to Florida.
And they're gonna die, too.
They're gonna get eaten by alligators or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Everyone's fucked.
christina pazsitzky
What about us?
Are we safe in Austin?
We're fucked.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
If that thing goes, nobody lives.
You literally have to be living on New Zealand with some sort of a supply of food.
Those kind of things, they don't just kill people.
They send the planet into nuclear winter.
So they stop all the sunlight from coming in so the temperatures drop and then food doesn't grow and you have massive famines and it takes years for the shit to come out of the sky.
christina pazsitzky
You know what's crazy, bro?
Is how fragile all this is.
joe rogan
Super fragile.
christina pazsitzky
I think about, and especially because I watched when Elon, when he's on here, and he's like, we're going to go to space because we have to go to the next thing because Earth will be, it's fragile.
It's fragile.
joe rogan
It's really fragile.
christina pazsitzky
And I think even with the pandy, you realize like, oh, government's not going to take care of anything.
Like, yeah.
joe rogan
You call it the Pandy, too.
christina pazsitzky
Didn't Hotep Jesus call it the Pandy?
joe rogan
Call it the Demi.
The Demi, that's right.
Hotep called it the Demi yesterday.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you realize how ridiculous, how tenuous this all is.
Society.
Like, oh, I trusted the government more before this pandemic.
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And I'm like, oh, this is bad.
christina pazsitzky
I'm not going to trust anybody.
I'm going to move to Texas and buy some guns and buy some land.
I'm getting off.
I'm done.
joe rogan
I didn't think about whether I had to trust the governor.
christina pazsitzky
Right.
joe rogan
But they didn't have that kind of power over your life.
christina pazsitzky
Right, right.
joe rogan
And then when all of a sudden they did, you're like, what?
And then you realize, when you hear that Eric Garcetti guy talk on TV, you're like, oh my god, you're a moron!
You're the governor?
You're the mayor rather?
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And you're full of shit.
You said you took a photo with your mask so you held your breath?
Shut the fuck up.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you'd like to think that people in those positions are smarter than us or just like superior people and they're not.
They're just dipshits like us.
joe rogan
Some of them are great and some of them are only doing that job because most smart people don't want it.
If you had all the people that are working as CEOs and engineers and all these really brilliant people, if they wanted to be president, they'd have a far better argument than most of these dullards, most of these fucking weirdos.
There's a political class of people in this country that are basically bad actors.
They're like fucking weirdos.
They're weirdos with like fake stances on things and they have these weird outbursts on Twitter and they're just fucking strange people, man.
And they're out there and they're running at least part of how the cultural conversation takes place.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
Could you imagine being president or wanting to be?
What a nightmare.
joe rogan
Or be Speaker of the House.
Remember when Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi got on their one knee for George Floyd with African garb on?
That's who those people are.
That's who those people are.
And it turned out that the pattern that they used was from a tribe that was particularly invested in the slaving industry.
Yeah.
Of course.
That's what happens when you fucking pander to people.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that's a thing.
joe rogan
But those are the only people that are running for that job.
That's the thing.
If you had some genius person, the genius people go to work for Google.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
The genius people go to work for Facebook.
christina pazsitzky
They're doing their own job.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, they start their own businesses.
They don't want to invest in this broken-ass system and have a bunch of people lie about them and have this bizarre cult of personality ritual takes place where you're literally having a popularity contest to see who runs the city.
christina pazsitzky
I know it's so stupid.
And then, who was I listening?
I forget where I read this.
That 51% is a landslide.
A landslide.
So half the fucking, half of humanity hates you.
And then 51% have to like you.
It's just bananas.
joe rogan
And no matter who wins.
If it's a Republican, they're going to take away our rights.
They're going to take away this and take away our abortion.
If a Democrat wins, they're going to tax us in.
They're going to let the illegal aliens in.
They're going to ruin our economy.
The jobs are going to go away.
It's so exhausting, but I love it here.
I love it here so much better.
christina pazsitzky
I do too.
joe rogan
This is a great middle ground because it's a very progressive, open-minded city, but it's surrounded by guns.
christina pazsitzky
And I kind of like them now, and I grew up very, very, very Angeleno, and I didn't realize what a bubble it was culturally.
Not that I, like, I still fucking mad respect for 818, always, but like...
joe rogan
818 till I die!
christina pazsitzky
Always, bro.
Always.
Like, I love L.A., but now that I'm out of it, I'm like, oh, okay, no one gives a shit about the stuff they care about.
Like, out here, it's just, it's not...
joe rogan
They're trapped in a mind virus.
christina pazsitzky
Right now, there's some kind of a hysteria, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Friends that I have that come here to Austin and then they come for a couple days, they're like, dude, it's like I'm in a different world.
Yeah.
LA's a lot better than it was.
It was a lot better this last time that I went than like seven, eight months before that.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
The previous time.
christina pazsitzky
It's not their fault.
It's not the people of LA. It's the government.
joe rogan
It's the government.
If they had lived the same way that Texas did, you would have the same amount of people dead.
Most likely.
christina pazsitzky
So I was on Dr. Phil's podcast, and he said that.
He's like, there's some study out there that did the mortality rates on Florida, Texas, California.
He said that the outcome was the same, which is devastating.
joe rogan
Especially when you adjust for age.
They were trying to say that Florida had more deaths, but you have to adjust for age because Florida's age is relatively high.
A lot of retirees go there.
Look, it's not good for anybody.
That fucking disease is not good for anybody.
It's not good.
But it's also not good to lose your fucking business.
And it's a respiratory illness.
And they've never been able to control a respiratory illness from spreading.
And this whole two-week-to-stop-the-spread shit didn't work.
And then it became two months.
And then it became...
You can't dine outdoors because of...
You know, that's really what it was in LA. There was no science at all showing that there was outdoor transmission.
And they were arresting people for fucking paddleboarding.
Remember that?
No, but I... They sent a boat out to arrest this dude for fucking paddleboarding.
christina pazsitzky
So silly.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Coast Guard was arresting a paddleboarder.
christina pazsitzky
But even now, I was just in LA. Everyone had COVID. Everyone's got it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
It's like, it's...
Guys, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, we're going to be okay.
Or we're not.
christina pazsitzky
Why we're not?
joe rogan
Or Yellowstone blows.
And that's the least of our worries.
But that's the reality of natural disasters, asteroid impacts, alien invasion.
You've got real shit to worry about.
Not your fucking pronouns.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
You needy bitch.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Alright, so it's Mom Jeans.
It's available right now.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you.
joe rogan
It's on the Netflix.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you for having me.
Look at that.
joe rogan
You look like a woman from like the 1970s or something from a television show.
That's what you look like.
christina pazsitzky
You know what I wanted, Joe Rogan?
I wanted to transcend.
joe rogan
You did transcend.
christina pazsitzky
Today because the world sucks.
joe rogan
They did a great job on your set.
christina pazsitzky
Isn't that gorgeous?
joe rogan
It's very nice.
Where'd you film this?
christina pazsitzky
New York City, the Gramercy Theater.
joe rogan
Ah, fuck, it's beautiful.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and John Irwin.
joe rogan
Damn.
christina pazsitzky
He just crushed it.
joe rogan
You look great.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you.
I wanted something beautiful and something funny, and I say a lot of crazy shit.
I say a lot of inappropriate stuff that's going to get me in a lot of trouble, and I don't care.
joe rogan
Well, you're one of my favorite comedians alive.
christina pazsitzky
You're one of mine too.
I adore you.
joe rogan
I adore you.
Let's wrap this up.
People want to get a hold of you on the Instagram.
At the Christina P. Christina P. The Christina P. And what else?
christina pazsitzky
Twitter, Christina P. YMHstudios.com.
Listen to your mom's house.
joe rogan
You got a Danny Brown show now.
christina pazsitzky
Oh!
joe rogan
I love it.
I saw the clip on the Instagram.
I'm like, that's one thing that's cool about what you guys have a whole studio.
christina pazsitzky
He makes us laugh so hard.
joe rogan
Danny Brown's a cool guy.
christina pazsitzky
You gotta come to YMH Studios, bro.
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Check it out.
joe rogan
I would love to.
christina pazsitzky
Anytime.
Anytime on there.
joe rogan
That's it.
Bye, everybody.
See you soon.
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