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May 12, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1817 - Hotep Jesus
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unidentified
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joe rogan
Train by day.
unidentified
Joe Rogan Podcast by night.
All day.
hotep jesus
Nice.
Nice.
joe rogan
Here's a shout out to my friend Megan for giving me this nasty ass fucking liquor.
Estancia.
Straight out of Mexico.
hotep jesus
You can, like, taste the plant in it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can.
I don't know what plants they're using, but whatever they are, they should burn them.
That shit's so nasty!
It's so strong.
She loves this shit.
She drinks it all the time.
I don't know.
unidentified
I wonder if she's getting back on Twitter.
joe rogan
Megan Murphy got banned from Twitter because she said, a man is never a woman.
Banned for life.
hotep jesus
Permaban.
joe rogan
Permaban.
That's it.
hotep jesus
You can't come after those people.
joe rogan
You can't talk crazy.
You can't say...
unidentified
It's a couple of...
hotep jesus
You can talk crazy, but it's a couple...
I would say...
Once you start dealing with the rainbow, you can cross the line.
joe rogan
Well, you can talk crazy, but you can say things like, go out in front of the Supreme Court judge's house, burn their shit.
If they leave the house, don't let them sleep.
You could say crazy shit like that.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You could say that.
Like, they're doing that now, and no one's getting in trouble for that.
hotep jesus
Lori Lightfoot just said a call to arms.
joe rogan
Call to arms.
Like, holy shit, bitch.
What the fuck are you saying?
You have the most violent city in this country.
It's a real problem, and you're literally calling to arms.
You know what arms are.
Those are guns, bitch.
Holy shit.
Jesus, Beetlejuice.
hotep jesus
Out of all people, to call to arms.
joe rogan
Call to arms against the Supreme Court.
That is so crazy.
Now, here's the thing.
Do we know for sure yet whether all this leak is factual?
hotep jesus
been the the leak is factual but there's other things that can happen that would stop the roe versus power of that yeah dark times I have it is We are in some of the darkest times, man.
unidentified
Strange, right?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I haven't looked into the leaks.
I haven't really cared to.
I usually just wait for somebody like Jamie to be like, yeah, it's real.
All right, cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
hotep jesus
I'm too busy doing other things.
But the Roe v.
Wade has been a very interesting conversation.
I've been following it a little bit, covered it on my YouTube channel.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
You know, it's kind of just sick, though, right?
Like, you got people saying that, like, the right is bad and all this other stuff, but they're advocating for the death of babies.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a weird—it's like we're calling it a woman's right to choose, and it is a woman's right to choose, right?
It is a woman's right to choose whether or not she has an abortion.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
How long into the term are you cool with it, right?
That's where it gets weird because like nobody wants to talk about that Like I'm like if you it's a cluster of cells and you take a plan B and it's gone Everybody's pretty cool with it.
Yeah, but you get to like five months.
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's moving around and stuff You know that's been one of the hardest things for me to wrap my mind around right like so it's a question I asked not ask you right and Let's say you're governor of Texas or whatever, right?
And a woman wants a late term abortion, okay?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Are you going to incarcerate or charge her?
Charge the doctor or allow them to just do what they want and be free?
What would Joe Rogan do?
joe rogan
Joe Rogan does not want to be governor, first of all, because Joe Rogan does not want those kind of responsibilities.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
I think that's a fucking super complicated issue.
Right.
I mean, you know...
Someone said this to me the other night, one of my friends.
They were talking about abortion and cases of rape.
And he goes, well, if your father's a piece of shit, does that mean that you should die?
It's like the child did not ask for his father to be a piece of shit.
What happens to the kid then?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
It's very hard.
I can't come to a conclusion on it, right?
So I think, to answer that question, I'm saying If she wants to have a late term abortion, she should go ahead and do it, right?
That's my stance.
Mostly because I lean more on the anarchist side of things.
Also because...
I study history, right?
So you think about, like, Spartans, right?
Spartans, if a child came out and had a defect, this is...
joe rogan
They just take it to the woods.
hotep jesus
Yeah, they took it to the woods and tossed it.
You know what I mean?
And I'm thinking to myself, like, this is a form of eugenics.
This is a form of, like, cleansing your race, whatever, whatever.
And it's going to be quite controversial, but I'm a fan of it.
unidentified
I don't know if I'm allowed to say that, but...
hotep jesus
We are human beings and we are here to preserve life and we are here to preserve life for our tribe and for our people.
And it's like sometimes you have to make decisions that are long term, right?
For your people to make sure your people survive.
So I'm like...
Do we want another blue-haired liberal running around?
Go ahead, hit the button on that doc.
joe rogan
The thing about blue-haired liberals is sometimes they get older and then they have children of their own and then they get mortgages and they have jobs and then they start understanding the tax system, they understand where money goes and they start getting red-pilled and then they start becoming more conservative and more pragmatic and they change.
hotep jesus
This is true.
joe rogan
You know?
My friend Bridget Phetasy, she told me that when she was in her 20s, she was like AOC. She goes, I was like a full-on lefty progressive, like all the way.
And now she's, I mean, I don't know where she would categorize herself.
I'd say she's a centrist.
But if you're a centrist to people on the left, you're Hitler.
hotep jesus
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're a centrist, you're alt-right, you know?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I mean, the left has gone so far left that the center is now, like, right, right?
joe rogan
Well, you saw that meme that Elon Musk posted.
He posted this meme, like, where he is, where the right is, and where the center is, and that the left keeps moving further and further away, and now it looks like he's the right, because they keep moving where the center is.
hotep jesus
Correct.
Correct.
But I actually don't believe that there is a left or a right.
I view politics as a sphere, right?
At the core of this sphere, right, is no state, no government, right?
And the further you get away from that is more government you're advocating for, right?
So there are times and places where the right advocates for state interference and the left advocates for state interference.
So it's like a measure of how much do you want the state involved in your life and when and where?
Because everybody chooses a place.
Like, you know, the right is like, yeah, ban abortions, right?
And it's just like, okay, so you're partly a status.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
And then the left wants you like welfare.
Okay, so that's where they want status.
So it's just like, what degree of state do you want involved in your life?
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
And then how much of it and when and where, right?
So it's more of a sphere than a left or right thing.
There really is no left or right.
joe rogan
That's a good way of putting it, because that is true, that there are times on both sides from both parties who want the state to step in and take care of business.
Mm-hmm.
You know, I'm more of an issues person.
I used to think of myself as, like, left-wing, but as time goes on, I think I'm more...
It's like, there's a lot of things on the left I don't agree with, but most things I do.
But it's issue to issue.
And the problem is, people subscribe to all of the things that their tribe subscribes to.
hotep jesus
Bingo.
joe rogan
If their tribe is, like, pro-Second Amendment, or pro-woman's right to choose, or pro-illegal immigration, whatever it is...
If your side says that, you start chirping, you start just saying exactly what your tribe wants.
That's a problem.
hotep jesus
That's the grift.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the grift.
hotep jesus
That's the grift, right?
And that's what has become one of the biggest problems, I think, is the rise of the grifter class and the grift economy.
Basically what happened was, at some point, in order for people to take you serious, you had to have a certain amount of education on a matter.
Some sort of grasp of the topic, politics.
You had to be smart, right?
Now it's just like, all you have to do is know the talking points.
And you can get a huge following and become an influencer and influence people's decisions and get hired by politicians and people and da-da-da-da.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
So, you know, before it was like the politicians were the grifter class or, you know, the political, I'm sorry, the media, right?
Now, because of social media, you have just any old Joe, no pun intended, can pop up and be an authority, an authority on America and society, right?
But again, so this is the problem with the right.
The problem with the right is they're being misled because they've dumbed themselves down to a few talking points.
It's like three talking points, four talking points, whatever it is.
So they've dumbed themselves down and allowed them to be led by people who have no educational background.
And I don't mean traditional.
I'm just saying just haven't really done the studies on history, don't really know much.
But they've dumbed themselves down to, like, three points.
And it's just like...
joe rogan
What are those points?
Pro-life?
unidentified
Pro-life, free speech, and Second Amendment.
joe rogan
And the First Amendment thing is really because of what's happening to conservatives on social media.
You would always think in the past of liberals as being pro-First Amendment, like the ACLU, supporting Nazis' right to exist.
That was back in the day, in the early days, Jewish lawyers.
And they were supporting Nazis' rights to protest and exist because they were saying, look, free speech is an absolute thing.
It means you want free speech for people who you absolutely disagree with, who you don't like, you disagree with them, but you think they should have free speech.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
Which leads us to this Trump thing, because Elon Musk is talking about getting Trump back on Twitter.
Is he?
Yeah, he said he should absolutely be allowed back on Twitter.
hotep jesus
Absolutely, absolutely so.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he said that it was outrageously stupid, and it was morally wrong to ban him from Twitter.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
And so they were questioning him.
They're like, what if someone incites something?
He goes, well, maybe a temporary ban.
He's a free speech absolutist.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
That's beautiful.
My thing is, you know, when people talk about free speech, usually they're referring to the Constitution, right?
And remind me to tell you how I've rewritten the Constitution.
joe rogan
You've rewritten it?
hotep jesus
Yeah, I rewrote the Constitution.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
We'll get to that.
unidentified
We're going to get into that.
hotep jesus
But free speech, right?
Okay, we understand that there's free speech that is protected by the government.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
That don't matter.
The reason why speech isn't free is because of your cohort, your friends, your cronies, the left, whoever, whoever.
These are the people that are destroying free speech.
Free speech ain't free.
It's going to come at a cost, right?
So, for example, people pop up with these free speech social media platforms, right?
It's definitely not a free speech social media platform because if I go on that platform and I say something crazy, Somebody's still going to pick that up and get me fired from my job.
There's still gonna be consequences no matter where I go on the internet.
People can still see what I say.
joe rogan
Yeah, but free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
It just means you have the ability to express yourself.
That's what free speech is.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
The thing is like, what should your boss be able to fire you for?
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
You know, like that's where it gets slippery because there's certain things that people can say, like example, like what if you said, I don't think January 6th was one of the worst things that ever happened to America.
I think it was a bunch of fucking morons who believed in QAnon, who rushed to Capitol and took selfies, and it was largely idiots with a few dangerous people mixed in with it.
You get fired for that.
hotep jesus
Wow.
joe rogan
You could get fired.
If you worked for some super liberal tech company, they would go, you do not align with the values of our company.
But I'm just saying, this is my opinion.
I see those guys, like that dude with the fucking buffalo helmet on, that retard with the face paint.
hotep jesus
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That guy is not dangerous.
He's an idiot.
hotep jesus
Yeah, he's a troll.
joe rogan
He's a silly person who believes dumb shit, and he's gullible, and he lives with his parents, and he's a grown-ass man.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Grown-ass man.
But that's what you expect.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
From a guy like that.
You expect, okay, this guy is not as...
Listen, man, if you got a wife and kids and a job and a fucking mortgage and a bunch of shit to do and you got goals, you don't have time to go to the goddamn Capitol and put a buffalo helmet on.
hotep jesus
That's true.
joe rogan
That's dumb people.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of dumb people.
So if you can talk dumb people and, you know, you got to go there and take what's ours, like...
Yeah, that's inciting.
Yeah, that guy's an idiot.
Yeah, he should be in trouble.
Everybody should be in trouble.
You shouldn't do that.
But to say that that is like World War II, that's like Pearl Harbor, or that's like D-Day, or that's like, you know, September 11th, this is crazy talk.
That's just a bunch of morons.
It's a disaster.
It looks horrible.
Definitely need to clean that up.
Definitely should have had more security.
There's a lot of shit about that day that's fucked.
Like the cops opening up the gates, letting people through.
Like, what is all that about?
hotep jesus
Antifa being there.
joe rogan
Yes.
How about the known FBI agents who were inciting violence?
unidentified
They were telling, you gotta get in there, we gotta take what's ours.
joe rogan
They had people that were there.
For a fact, we know that.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
joe rogan
The fucking FBI! Imagine the FBI themselves trying to get people to do shit that's illegal so they can arrest them.
hotep jesus
They do best.
joe rogan
They're so good at that.
They're so great at that.
They're so good at that.
They're wizards at that shit.
hotep jesus
January 6th, I thought it was beautiful, man.
joe rogan
Why'd you think it was beautiful?
hotep jesus
Like, the white man going to give him some freedom, as Uncle Hotep would say.
You know, like, I'm on my channel, I always talk about, like, I'm looking for the day for the white man to get on his horse, grab his musket, and just bring us back, give us some freedom again, right?
Like, where's that white man?
Like, it seems like we've been neutered, right?
And it's just like, I know as a black man that if the white man ain't free, I'm definitely not free.
joe rogan
But what are they not free from?
What they were saying is that the election was stolen.
That's what they were saying.
hotep jesus
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
That was the whole call to arms, not call to arms, but, you know, that's what Trump said.
Yeah, Trump was like, you know, you have to make a strong presence and...
hotep jesus
Yeah, but there's a whole lot of things wrong with the state and how the federal government is playing Americans, right?
For sure.
From monetary all the way down, right?
So it's a whole bunch of different things.
But like the media is saying, like, you know, this guy's a white supremacist or that guy's a white nationalist and white nationalism is becoming a big problem in this country.
And it's just like, wait, when, where?
Like, stop it.
You're lying.
joe rogan
When Biden said that, he said it was the biggest problem our country faces, bigger than terrorism.
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
Yeah, he said, bigger than terrorism, right?
joe rogan
And everybody just let him.
They just let him say that.
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's like blatant lies.
So I'm just like...
So when I saw January 6th, I covered the whole thing live.
We had Mukhtar on the ground, and I was like, yeah, this is great.
Let's go!
joe rogan
You had someone on the ground?
hotep jesus
Yeah, Mukhtar was on the ground, yeah.
That's hilarious.
And we had him calling live, and we covered it.
It was great.
I was a big fan of it.
Was there a lot of...
I'm sorry, I was...
I was like, yo, this is like a beautiful moment in history.
I thought it was one of the greatest moments in all of American history.
joe rogan
That's so ridiculous.
unidentified
To me, personally, because I'm just like, yeah, get mad, you know?
hotep jesus
Like, that's what I wanted to see.
Now, it's storming the Capitol and all that stuff.
Like, I don't agree with that.
joe rogan
You disagreed with protesting, going there, not storming the Capitol.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, I mean, some people stormed the Capitol.
Some people just kind of just, you know, politely walked in.
joe rogan
Did you see Into the Storm, the HBO documentary on QAnon?
It's all about that.
You should watch it.
It's pretty wild because it shows who instigated and started QAnon and who was running the forums, who was running 4chan and who set up all this QAnon shit and how they did it and how they manipulated people.
And they also focus on the very people themselves.
You get to see how gullible some of these people are.
They're very simple people.
And they get talked into believing that Trump is going to bring America back and rescue it from the evil people.
All these people are going to jail.
And then when no one went to jail, you could see at the end of it, they're like, hmm.
Did they realize they got duped?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they're fairly simple people.
It's kind of sad because to take someone from being a QAnon believer who's not very educated and believes dumb shit and to get them all the way out of that to see the big picture of life itself and what the real influences are and how this all is set up, it's too much of a journey for most of those folks.
They don't have the time or the energy.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
To do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you're looking at these people that are just going to wait around until the next person tricks them into some stupid shit.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I think everybody's looking for a hero.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You know, people are looking at Trump as a hero.
And I like Trump.
I'm a big fan of Trump.
You know, if he ran again, I'm definitely advocating for him.
You know, I don't care what anybody says.
But...
I think people have to just come back to just, you know, like, what are you doing for yourself?
What are you doing for your family?
unidentified
Right?
hotep jesus
Like, another big problem with the conservative right or whatever you want to call it, they're in reactionary mode, right?
Like, they log on to find out what the left is doing today.
So which means the left is basically leading the way, right?
And the left is controlling the battlefield.
It's just like, why don't we just come online and be like, yo, today we're celebrating families, right?
Like, today's, like, heterosexual day, right?
joe rogan
Be proactive.
hotep jesus
Be proactive, right?
And I think everything's just been reactive, and that kind of, like, gives the left, you know, Control over the whole situation.
joe rogan
Well, I think most conservatives feel like there's very little representation for conservatives online.
There's only Fox News and when, you know, they put, like, you know, Tucker Carlson clips, like that, or, you know, Australia, they got that Sky News.
Right.
Is that OAN network?
Is that still around?
They got kicked off of DirecTV, right?
hotep jesus
Did they?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Damn.
joe rogan
Something happened.
I believe they got kicked off of...
It was either DirecTV or one of the cable networks.
One of the big cable networks.
hotep jesus
Bye for talking about the Jebby.
joe rogan
It could be about that.
I think they just decided not to renew their contract, but guarantee that it's about the influence that they have, because they're pretty extreme.
But when you look at the amount of people that are on the left that are in the media, like the left-influenced media, it's crazy.
It's ridiculous.
It's like CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS. You can keep going down the line.
MSNBC. You just keep going and going and going and going and going.
It's everything.
Literally everything.
hotep jesus
Broke my heart, man.
You know, being a young black kid, my mom collecting Ebony magazines, Jet magazines, you know, when I'm young and I'm like, one day I'm gonna be on Ebony.
One day I'm gonna be on Jet or Black Enterprise magazine.
And then my views are forming and then I'm like, wait, hold on.
I'm completely blackballed.
I'll never be on FD Magazine.
joe rogan
You're going to be on Fox News.
You're going to be on Tucker Carlson.
People are going to be mad at you.
Tucker will have you on.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
He might have you on after this.
hotep jesus
Yeah, no, it's just, it was like really like sad.
It was a sad moment for me realizing that I may never see black media.
joe rogan
Do you think that one of the things that happened during the pandemic was a lot of the mandates pissed off a lot of African Americans because there's a large percentage of African Americans that were not vaccinated.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
And they were not interested in getting vaccinated.
Right.
Especially in New York City.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Locked out of everything.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just locked out.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that made a lot of people go, hey...
What is this?
What party are we in?
Because Democrats, for the most part, count on African-American votes because majority vote Democrat.
But with something like that, that's one of those things that makes people tip.
They're like, what are you saying?
And then you hear Ron DeSantis was saying, I do not support mandates.
I do not support anything.
It restricts your freedom.
We have to protect freedom at all costs.
And a lot of people are like, hmm.
That guy in Florida's got a fucking point.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, what side are we on here?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Medical apartheid, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
This is white supremacy, right?
It's like, when we talk about, like, white supremacy, so they try to say, like, the right is the white supremacist.
But these people are literally mandating for a medical experimentation for people who have a higher rate of adverse reactions to these medical procedures, right?
They're saying no to these procedures.
It's still a form of racism.
I hate using that word because it's watered down now.
joe rogan
It's a form of discrimination.
hotep jesus
It's a form of discrimination.
joe rogan
I don't think it's racism, but it definitely impacts one race higher because there's a higher percentage of people that are unvaccinated and likely distrustful of medical procedures.
hotep jesus
Right.
And then it's mandated, right?
Especially if you work for, like, my sister.
Mandated, right?
She had to get it, right?
Or she'll lose her job.
So think about all the black people that work in the medical industry that potentially could have lost their job or had to compromise their body cavity, right?
The freedom of their choice.
My body, my choice.
Like, no, it's not.
It's the state's body and the state's choice.
You don't get to make that.
So, for example, when people were celebrating the OSHA, right?
OSHA stands in SCOTUS, right?
So, yeah, they said publicly, private companies can't mandate it.
But then they said, well, if you work for the government...
black employees that work for the government and now mandated well every all races obviously but it's just funny because black people are the most resistant to this thing as compared to all other races right and the Democrats like no go get it good yeah so it's like do they really care well this my body my choice is this is where it's interesting because it's happening right after mandates and now it's the abortion discussion And it's like, I thought you said My Body, My Choice.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
hotep jesus
A week later.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not only that, it's not even logical because it's not your body, your choice, even if you've already had COVID, which is really crazy.
They want you to get vaccinated even if you've had it, which is unscientific.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
It literally doesn't make sense.
It doesn't fit with the studies.
The studies show that you're...
Far better protected if you've survived COVID than even if you get vaccinated.
It's far longer protection, it's better protection, and they're still like, nope, get it.
You gotta line these pockets, kid.
And that's...
I mean, that's the only...
I mean, unless...
The only other argument you could say is that, like, we don't know what kind of protection you have from getting COVID because you could have been one of those asymptomatic people and it might not have bestowed significant protection to you.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
That would make sense if the COVID vaccine didn't provide only temporary protection anyway.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it does.
It's like it wanes after a while, which is why they keep wanting people to get shot up again and again and again.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
You need a boost every two days or something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's kind of odd.
It's real odd.
You know, times that we're in.
The past two years, I had COVID a couple of times, and I watched you, and I was, like, sick, feeling like I'm dying.
And I was like, yo, I'm about to DM Joe Rogan and see if he can get me some of this monoclonal body.
joe rogan
How bad were you sick?
hotep jesus
I was pretty bad.
joe rogan
Yeah?
hotep jesus
Yeah, I didn't go to the hospital because that's where they're killing people at.
Like, you know, like, I don't know how much I'm allowed to say on here, but, you know, I was telling people, I'm like, COVID ain't killing people, hospitals are.
For example, when we talk about the, what's that machine?
joe rogan
The respirator?
hotep jesus
The respirator.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Right?
Like, the respirator's breathing for you.
And if anybody's in the medical industry, they know once you go on that, it's usually just to keep you alive so your family can see you before you pass on, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, 80% of the people who got on the respirator wound up dying.
hotep jesus
Right.
So what did everybody say at the height of it all?
We need more respirators.
Get more respirators out.
joe rogan
That's what they thought though.
There was a lot of confusion in the beginning because it was a novel virus and they didn't know what the proper treatment was.
I don't necessarily think you could blame people for that because that's really what they thought.
They thought we had to get people respirated and they thought people were just dying like crazy.
As it went on, then they realized, like, oh, the respirator may actually be killing people.
One of the things was the respirators were blowing people's lungs out.
hotep jesus
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So there was multiple problems with that.
But that was just because it was the beginning of the pandemic.
hotep jesus
They didn't know any better.
I mean, my hotel people was telling me as soon as they saw the respirators going out, they're like, oh, no, this is going to be bad.
I had Dr. Tanah Ricks on, and he pointed this stuff out about the PCR test.
He's like, oh, based upon the cycles that you're running this, you're going to get a bunch of false positives, right?
And then a year later, what did they say?
A bunch of false positives, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they changed the cycles.
hotep jesus
So when you say that you have an industry of medical professionals, right?
And we're supposed to trust these people.
But here I got this...
Young black kid, who's a biochemist, who's telling me on Twitter and all his followers, little guy, Dr. Snodrix, he's nobody.
But he knows you're telling me this group of medical professionals don't know?
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
And then I got Jehudi Ma'arra, who's telling me the respirators won't work, but this group of people telling me that they didn't know this was...
joe rogan
I think there's a lot of people that don't look into things.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
They just follow the narrative, they do what the guidelines are, and then they keep going, including doctors.
hotep jesus
Including doctors.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Including doctors.
I think once you go to college, you basically lose your brain.
You pay to donate your brain to the people that run these institutions, and then they zap it.
joe rogan
Some people don't.
Some people come out of there with their critical thinking skills intact, and they have their own opinions, but they'll talk about them in hushed tones and quiet.
They'll get together and go...
I don't think we should be vaccinating children.
There's no evidence.
Children seem to be fine, but they want to keep it quiet.
hotep jesus
And then the other group of people that were least likely to get vaccinated were PhDs.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, that's crazy.
PhDs, a large group of them were just going, nah, I'm going to hang in there.
I'm going to wait a little bit.
hotep jesus
I don't know.
Here's what was eerie for me.
I believe it was 2019, 2020, right before the Demi hit.
I had Sister Samaya on my platform and she was like, yo, they're passing legislation in New Jersey to make medical exemption, I'm sorry, religious exemption for vaccination no longer a thing.
They're trying to get rid of it, right?
Trying to ban it.
This was getting passed in New Jersey legislation, right?
Then the Demi hits.
joe rogan
The Demi.
What's the Demi?
hotep jesus
Demi.
The pandemic.
joe rogan
Oh.
hotep jesus
The pandemic, right?
I'm used to censoring myself.
unidentified
Why do you have to censor yourself?
hotep jesus
Because YouTube algorithms and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
YouTube.
I escaped that fucking claw just in time.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you did.
joe rogan
I just got out.
hotep jesus
Genius move.
joe rogan
Got out just in time.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you did.
Yeah, I would have took the deal too with Spotify.
joe rogan
You have to.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't trust them anymore.
They're just fucking banning people for all kinds of shit.
They're banning people for citing legitimate medical studies.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
They're deleting their podcasts.
hotep jesus
Last week, the FDA updated something about the vaccine or COVID or something.
And then Twitter put a warning on people that were repeating the FDA. Yes, yes.
joe rogan
It was the Johnson& Johnson vaccine.
When they limited the use of the Johnson& Johnson vaccine to people over 18, they tried to limit it because of blood clots.
So they were putting a warning on the FDA's statement.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is wild!
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Instagram is doing it too.
When people would post that on Instagram, they would have that COVID-19 warning under the bottom of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I'm on my second Instagram account now.
joe rogan
You're on your second?
hotep jesus
Yeah, I'm familiar with the band over there.
You know, it's funny with Elon buying Twitter.
I'm happy he did.
I'm waiting for the...
I think the deal's still got to be finalized, but...
Yeah.
Something changed at Twitter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I think the people that were in charge of shadow banning and censoring must have left or something?
joe rogan
I think that's probably very likely.
Either that or they knew what they were going to do.
If they do sell it, it's time to clean house now.
hotep jesus
Oh, and get rid of all the alcohol.
joe rogan
Did you see the difference in engagement?
hotep jesus
That's exactly what I was about to say.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Bro, I'm like, wait.
I was shadowbanned this whole time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Like, my engagement is like 10x now.
joe rogan
I gained 700,000 Twitter followers in two weeks.
hotep jesus
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yep.
hotep jesus
Bro.
Bro, what were they doing up there?
joe rogan
The only other option, the other possibility rather, is that those are bots.
That I gained a lot of bots.
hotep jesus
Okay, so, yes.
joe rogan
But god damn, if that's true.
hotep jesus
Yes, there are bots, right?
However, my YouTube account started growing faster.
And that was unusual, right?
Because I had my YouTube link in my bio.
On my Twitter bio.
So usually I get a trickle in.
But as soon as that buy went through, I saw my YouTube subscribers start going up.
Abnormally.
And I'm like, oh, it's finally getting released.
I'm finally getting access to eyes I never had access to.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yes.
hotep jesus
That's wild to me, man.
And you know, like last time I came on here, I told you, I was like, I don't really care about the saddle banning and the censorship.
I don't like whatever, whatever.
Twitter wants to do whatever you want to do.
And now I'm like, I still agree with that stance, but I'm like, Damn, they've been holding me back.
joe rogan
They've been holding you back.
They've probably been holding a lot of people back.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they think they're morally right to do that.
And it's a weird position to be in to have that kind of power when you're dealing with essentially what's the world's town hall.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
You know, I mean, that's really what it is.
It's the world's place to express ideas.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's been curated by a bunch of dorks.
hotep jesus
Yeah, a bunch of people who, well, there's rungs, right?
Like, you got the ruling class, and then you have the ignorance underneath them who think they're doing the right thing sometimes, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they all think they're doing the right thing.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they think it's morally wrong to let certain people express themselves because they're worried that gullible people are going to listen to them and then join up.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's just part of life.
You have to have better arguments to counteract the bad arguments.
You can't just ban the bad arguments.
If you think they're a bad argument, then step up to the debate stage or to Twitter or whatever and come up with a better argument and let people see how this plays out.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that was my thing.
I always said if somebody's not willing to debate, it's usually because they don't believe in whatever they're saying.
And that was my thing, like, with the whole pandemic.
Like, take your doctors and let's put them on stage with Trump's front line, whatever they called them.
Trump died first line, doctors with a front line died, whatever they...
Debate them.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
Where's the debate?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You believe what you say?
Well, it's debate.
And then let the people decide...
Which side I'm going to choose?
We never got that debate.
It was never fair to allow people to see both sides of this thing.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Well, that's when they started coming after me.
When I had Robert Malone on and Dr. Peter McCullough.
And when they were saying, you know, that these discredited doctors, I go, hold on.
You can't call that guy discredited.
Because first of all, Peter McCullough is the most published doctor in his field in history.
He never had a single complaint about him being some sort of a fringe doctor.
He was very respected, highly credited.
But it wasn't until he had patients that had adverse reactions to the vaccine that people started getting upset with him.
And now he's left the universities, involved in lawsuits, and it's a big fucking deal.
But to say that that guy is just some fringe, wacky doctor, not when you hear him talk.
hotep jesus
Yeah, and same thing with Malone.
He was involved in the MRNA technology.
joe rogan
He personally holds nine patents for the creation of MRNA technology.
hotep jesus
Right.
It's wild.
And you're going to say, you should discredit this guy.
joe rogan
And you listen to him talk.
And they were trying to discredit mass formation psychosis.
That's not a thing.
Of course it's a thing.
He's talking about it.
It's a real thing.
You know it's a real thing because you know that people do do that.
They get panicked.
They get anxious, they're filled with anxiety, and someone comes along with a solution, and anybody who doesn't go with that solution, people yell at them.
They get upset and frantic.
Most people are living with a layer or a level, rather, of anxiety already that was barely manageable.
I mean, just regular life before the pandemic was barely manageable for a lot of people.
The pandemic comes along and those people are screeching banshees now.
They're out of their fucking mind, because they were barely hanging on when everything was normal, air quotes.
hotep jesus
Yeah, and then there's the destruction of the economy, the destruction of small business.
joe rogan
I keep hearing there's a formula shortage, which is terrifying.
hotep jesus
Oh, the baby formula.
Yeah, I saw that recently.
joe rogan
How is that?
What's going on?
What's going on there?
hotep jesus
I don't know.
joe rogan
How the fuck do you not have enough baby formula?
hotep jesus
I'm happy they don't, first of all.
joe rogan
What?
hotep jesus
And I'll tell you why.
joe rogan
Please do.
hotep jesus
Baby formula ain't no good for babies.
joe rogan
It's not?
hotep jesus
Most of them are not.
joe rogan
But some women can't pump.
Right, right, right.
For whatever reason, they're milk ducks.
hotep jesus
Absolutely, absolutely.
And there's alternative formulas out there.
There's really good...
Some of them are soy-based.
I'm like, I don't get your child.
But when you talk about...
I don't want to name companies because that could get me in legal issues.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
But...
The formula that's on the market has a lot of toxic ingredients in it.
It ain't good for babies, right?
unidentified
Like what?
joe rogan
What kind of toxic ingredients?
hotep jesus
I don't know.
I haven't studied this stuff in years.
But let people do their own research, right?
Let people go.
And there's a lot of people that have done this research, right?
joe rogan
Let's see if we can find it.
Find out what's bad about baby formula.
hotep jesus
Pull up the ingredients.
joe rogan
Just Google, what's bad about baby formula.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You might have to use...
joe rogan
It might be a thing.
hotep jesus
An alternative search engine.
joe rogan
What'd you say?
jamie vernon
That would give you bad blog results.
That's going to give you goofy shit that people are trying to sell stuff.
joe rogan
How about toxic ingredients in baby formula?
hotep jesus
That might work.
joe rogan
Google that.
hotep jesus
That might work.
joe rogan
Would that work?
What are you doing over there, Jimmy?
You wrestling with that microphone?
It's definitely better to have breast milk.
hotep jesus
Yes, absolutely.
joe rogan
I think for some women that's an impossibility.
hotep jesus
Right, so then maybe you gotta have that formula, right?
But I think a lot of women Also can't afford the breast milk because the breast milk is expensive.
You know, if you can't nurse.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean buying breast milk?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very expensive.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that stuff is very expensive.
So it's hard to get alternatives, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And the thing is, like, there are people that are making baby formula that is, like, organic, holistic.
But because of...
Like, FDA regulations, there's certain guidelines they gotta stay within, so they can't say, oh, this is safe for a newborn, right?
But you can technically give it to a newborn, but they can't put that on a label and say, hey, this is good for a newborn.
You can get this stuff on Amazon, right?
But there's organic, like, good baby formula out there.
joe rogan
So they can't call it baby formula?
Is that what it is?
hotep jesus
Yeah, well...
joe rogan
What do they call it?
hotep jesus
It's like, they market it towards, like, more toddlers.
I want to say 6 to 12 months or 12 months to 24 months or something like that.
I just had a baby, so that's why I was all in it.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Some of America's biggest manufacturers of baby food have not been adequately testing and removing products with dangerous levels of heavy metals, according to a new U.S. Congressional Report.
This is all part of an ongoing battle to make baby food safe.
The new report says Gerber and Beech Nut didn't properly test and remove these products while Sprout Foods, Inc., Walmart's Parent Choice, and Plum Organics were relaxed in their efforts.
Arsenic, lead, cadmium, and mercury were found in rice cereals, sweet potato purees, juices, and sweet snack puffs, according to a previous report from the Subcommittee on Economic and Consumer Policy Committee on Oversight.
At the time, the company's nature sells happy family organics and happy baby products.
Beech Nut, Hain, Earth's Best Organic, and Gerber agreed to the subcommittee's previous request for investigation The subcommittee also reached out to Walmart, Campbell, and Sprout Organic Foods, which did not allow the investigation.
Those companies later began cooperating.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
joe rogan
So there's toxic baby food lawsuit cases for parents at the bottom there.
Interesting.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So then you see the ADHD, autism situation popping up because of the heavy metals, neurotoxins.
Right.
joe rogan
For parents who have bought food from any of the brands and have children with autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, both autism and ADHD have been associated with toxic metals.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So when I saw that, I saw this story pop up.
It's on the back of my mind.
I'm like, good.
In some ways it's bad because the baby needs something.
It needs something.
But in another way, I'm just like, you know, it's a catch-22.
joe rogan
Why is there a shortage?
Why is there a baby food shortage?
Is it Russia?
Is it the Putin price hike?
hotep jesus
I thought it was because of the...
joe rogan
There it goes.
Wow, look at that.
40% of baby food formula out of stock.
Thread on infant formula shortage situation, which feels like a slow-moving train wreck.
First, retail stock has been rocky for months.
It was already bad over the holidays.
Then a big recall, plus plant shutdown in February made it worse.
Oh, so there's a plant shutdown.
hotep jesus
Oh, that's right, because the plants have been burning down.
You saw that?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did.
It was like food production plants.
PSU processor plants.
Yeah, why is that happening?
Man, it's a good time to be a conspiracy theorist.
It's a great time.
Because, you know, you've got a lot of fucking ammunition.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I tend not to look into this stuff.
Probably because it gives me anxiety.
joe rogan
Yeah, it gives me anxiety, too.
That's why I need weed.
I need this Mike Tyson weed.
hotep jesus
They say Abbott nutrition recalled with the contamination after...
I'll hit it.
joe rogan
That's the Mike Tyson weed.
hotep jesus
Oh, man.
joe rogan
It's dangerous.
Oh, boy.
Possible contamination of several infants got sick and two died.
hotep jesus
Whoa.
joe rogan
Abbott Nutrition recalled and withheld some of its baby femoral product due to concerns about possible contamination.
Fuck.
All this stuff is terrifying, man.
Just when you hear talk about food shortages, they keep saying food shortages are coming.
And people are saying food shortages are coming.
I'm like, what?
Do something.
How do you know it's coming?
Where's the food coming from?
What is causing food shortages?
Can that be fixed?
Seems like you should fix that.
Yeah.
Giving all this money to Ukraine, which is, you know, great.
Save the Ukrainian people.
But shouldn't we be fucking fixing our food shortage with that money?
What are we doing?
hotep jesus
What did Lenin say?
Lenin said about Marxism.
He said something like, It was, like, this evil quote from Lenin that basically, like, was completely inhumane.
I forget the exact quote, man, but, like, when you're dealing with Marxism, like, Marxism is designed to demoralize and destroy a population, right?
And so if you look at, like, the Holodomor, Holodomor, like, that's, like, massive famine throughout Eastern Europe, right?
Right.
So when I see the food shortages and I see Marxists running around in America, I'm like, oh, okay, this is the same place.
I always tell people, I always say, the most important thing you've got to study in history or Western history is the Russian Revolution.
And we're kind of seeing that play out again here in America.
So when I see food shortages, I go, okay, this is the famine, right?
This is the famine that they're trying to manufacture, dah, dah, dah, dah.
And then one of the enemies of Marxism, obviously, is the middle class, right?
So, like, they want to attack the middle class and da-da-da-da-da.
But the idea is to squeeze us, right?
And destroy us and then present themselves as the solution, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
To make themselves, like, seem necessary, right?
Right.
That's really what the play is.
It's evil, but...
It's intelligent at the same time.
Because if you're worried about food, how can you talk about the Fed?
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't think about anything but food when you're running out of food.
hotep jesus
Right, right.
joe rogan
And it's really easy to get other things done.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Get people to, like, we can get you food, but we need to get you onto a centralized digital currency where we can ration the amount of food.
Because there's a lot of people out there that are hoarding food.
We have a hoarding food problem.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Right, that's what they'll tell you, right?
joe rogan
That's what they'll tell you.
And then they'll tell you, but Hotep, if you just sign up for our digital currency and you get on that, but you can't go on vacation, though, because we saw some things that you said on Twitter.
So you have to clean up your social profile.
So maybe some good positive tweets about the government.
hotep jesus
Yeah, they'll limit your wallet.
joe rogan
You're talking about the CBD. Yeah, well, that's what they're doing in China.
In China, they have the social credit score.
hotep jesus
Social credit score, yeah.
joe rogan
And if they attach that to a digital currency, like a centralized digital currency, then they can choose what you can and can't spend your money on.
Like, you want to buy a new house?
Sorry.
hotep jesus
Sorry.
joe rogan
We can't have you do that.
You're a little too radical.
You said you're an anarchist, and you're happy that there's an infant formula shortage?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
We heard you on the podcast.
hotep jesus
Sorry.
joe rogan
You're allowed to have staples.
You can have rice and beans for the next couple weeks.
We get to that place where the government literally can tell you.
hotep jesus
That's where it's going.
joe rogan
Yeah, because most people, they're not going to do it to.
So most people aren't going to complain.
Most people are going to be able to get whatever they want.
Everything's going to be fine.
But if it's just a few political opponents, a few loudmouths, a few problem people, and they shut them down, no one's going to say shit.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just like they just create chaos, right?
They just want to, like, disrupt everybody and just create chaos, keep everybody, like I always say, distracted, right?
So the thing is, like, once you create the famine and you create the poverty, so the first people that are attacked by a poor lower class...
Who has been radicalized for survival is the middle class.
So you squeeze from the top and the bottom.
And then that's how you squeeze out the middle class.
And once you squeeze out the middle class, it's just us versus them.
And then that's when it just becomes like a...
More like a drone population of people, like the Matrix movie almost, where you just become a battery in the system.
joe rogan
Don't you think that's where we're going?
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
It's almost inevitable, right?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
The world is going to be bifurcated based upon organic and inorganic people.
unidentified
Ooh.
hotep jesus
Okay.
Like, we're talking about organic food?
We're talking about, like, organic...
So, for example, like...
joe rogan
They're gonna have an inorganic Olympics.
hotep jesus
You saw the swimmer, right?
joe rogan
Which one?
The one who's biologically male?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, this is going to be even a bigger hack if you become part robot.
hotep jesus
Right.
Yes.
Well, that's transhumanism.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the next step.
If we're willing to do the gender bender thing, what's to stop us?
Like, hey, he was going to die.
Now he's an Olympic gold medalist.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
All we had to do is replace his spine with some fucking carbon fiber thing with electric rods.
It makes your muscles fire far better.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, if they came along and said that, like, I have a friend and he's got a fucked up back.
He's had a bunch of back surgeries.
His back is fucked up.
It's from jujitsu.
It's all messed up.
Like, guys get discs fused and artificial discs put in.
If you came to him and said, bro, Not only can we fix all your problems, we're going to give you a carbon fiber spine that's virtually indestructible and it's 100% more efficient at sending signals to your muscles so your body will move better.
It's all powered by just the same way you're eating food and drinking water.
It's all powered by the same things.
You've got to take a certain amount of vitamins.
I'm sold.
hotep jesus
Bro!
I'm sold.
joe rogan
And then you would be on the beach and you would see dudes who have that big scar on their back from the top of their head all the way to, oh man, that guy's supercharged.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you'd realize people are supercharged.
Only rich people would be able to do it originally.
hotep jesus
But you would have to do it.
joe rogan
You'd have to do it.
hotep jesus
You'd have to do it just to compete.
Like, think about going to a job interview, right?
And this inorganic dude, and you're the organic dude.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Lazy bitch.
Go get that inorganic parts.
hotep jesus
Go get your parts.
joe rogan
If there was a thing they did like that where everyone had a scar down their back because they replaced your spine with something far better, we would all have it.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
It would be like shoes.
hotep jesus
So what about the people that don't get it?
What happens to them?
joe rogan
See, that's the problem with this concept of, like, Neuralink is one of those things that they're talking about.
Initially, it's going to be used for people with injuries, like people with spinal cord injuries.
It's going to be amazing.
But if it does get to the point where it supercharges your brain, and then the rich people do it first, what if it costs a quarter million bucks?
And you supercharge your brain, but then you have this giant head start.
Like, that's one of the only times in history where you could say, okay, This is an unequal.
This is like seriously unequal because you could potentially literally take over the earth in the time it takes for the poor people to get the brain implant.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
Like completely take over the earth.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could have an intellect far superior to anyone who's ever lived, and have instantaneous access to information downloaded right into your brain.
You'd be like a fucking human alien, and if you were greedy, if you started off greedy, or if you just said, look, better for me to control this because these other people are unethical, and you just decided to fucking overthrow all the governments.
You're like, basically like, what was that chick's name?
Scarlett Johansson in that movie where she takes that medication and she becomes like a god.
hotep jesus
No Limitless?
joe rogan
Lucy.
hotep jesus
Lucy, Lucy.
joe rogan
It was like some crazy drug and she becomes a god.
That's what it would be like, dude!
That's real!
Because if you were super smart, then you would make a better version of that brain thing.
You'd be like, this brain thing's dope, but you know, here's what they're getting wrong.
And if you have a brain that's charged up, But you're going super future.
I don't think it's that long, man.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
No, I don't think it's that long.
I think we're looking at about 20 years.
jamie vernon
What if you gave it to a dumb person, though?
joe rogan
What if he becomes super smart?
jamie vernon
What if they don't?
joe rogan
What if you gave it to, like, Corky from Life Goes On and he takes over the world?
jamie vernon
What if they just stay with bad ideas?
joe rogan
But no, it could happen, man.
Maybe they would have bad ideas, just supercharged bad ideas.
jamie vernon
They'd have really dumb bad ideas.
joe rogan
No, it would be a thing where you, yeah, you wouldn't, like the morals and the ethics probably wouldn't change.
Just the intelligence would change.
jamie vernon
You add it to a 40-year-old guy, like, doesn't make him better.
joe rogan
Right, doesn't make him a better human.
jamie vernon
Just gives him more information to deal with.
joe rogan
Or better, you know, it might make them, you could execute things better, you could think things through better, but maybe you would still, like, morally be the same person.
hotep jesus
It wouldn't, here's the thing, here's the thing, right?
Here's where I think we gotta level it off at.
The inorganic is going to be the difference between him having the state-of-the-art Mac and you having some janky $300 laptop PC mini from the store, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Just because we've got all this technology doesn't mean everything is going to be hyper-accelerated.
Because if everybody has it, humanity is moving faster as a whole.
The inorganic is moving faster as a whole.
But...
You're not gonna have this accelerationism, I don't think.
Because everybody has it, right?
You know what I mean?
Does that make sense?
joe rogan
Yes, it does.
I think the real problem is that some people are just gonna get this massive head start.
hotep jesus
But the thing is, the people who are gonna get the head start are the people who already have the head start.
So really, what changes?
joe rogan
Well, what changes is their power.
Instead of like like imagine Imagine if Bitcoin becomes the only money worth anything and then everybody's like, well, I don't have any of it Mmm, well your money's not worth shit.
You got to get new money.
You got to get money in Bitcoin That's what's gonna happen.
And then there's only a certain amount of Bitcoin, right?
Like the Bitcoin number is finite, right?
So like maybe there's no Bitcoin for you, right?
What the fuck are you talking about?
That's what's going that's what's gonna happen.
You just predicted a future job I think that's gonna happen in some sort of a way because I think this thing we do is inevitable.
Like, we make better and better technology and we're all obsessed by it.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
We're all obsessed by this thing that enslaves populations to stare at it all day.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
But that's group A. Yeah.
Okay?
Let's take a look at group B. Organic people.
joe rogan
Yeah, all them yoga freaks.
hotep jesus
Well, no.
joe rogan
All those people that hang in there and don't get fixed.
hotep jesus
You're going to be one of the organic people.
You're going to be the leader of the organic people, bro.
joe rogan
We're going to get eaten.
If I'm the leader of the organic people, we've got a real problem.
hotep jesus
No, we're not.
You want me to tell you why?
joe rogan
Please do.
hotep jesus
Because we hacked the devices.
joe rogan
Oh.
hotep jesus
So the inorganic people, we're still using technology.
Don't think that we're not jailbreaking the Neuralink.
joe rogan
That's true, right?
Someone's going to do that.
hotep jesus
We're in Terminator.
We got to watch the movie Terminator.
We're in that place.
joe rogan
And there's probably some kid who's like 18 years old who's in his basement somewhere trying to figure out some new version of this.
It's better than the original version.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's going to rewire it and fuck with it.
hotep jesus
And then you look at a movie like Demolition Man, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Where did those people live?
They lived underground, right?
But that's a metaphor for where we're going, right?
So here's a question I always ask people.
Is Joe Rogan mainstream or is he underground?
Everybody tells me Joe Rogan's mainstream.
But I'm like, he's the leader of the underground.
Five most important people on this planet.
Ready?
Joe Rogan.
Dana White.
unidentified
His fucking list is ridiculous.
hotep jesus
Dana White.
Why Dana White?
joe rogan
Because he doesn't give a fuck?
hotep jesus
Bingo!
unidentified
Pfft!
hotep jesus
It's basically that, right?
It's the place, like when the whole pandemic went down, he like, oh, we continue operation.
Anybody scared of that?
joe rogan
Yeah, he led the way.
hotep jesus
Like, who else did that?
joe rogan
Well, he's a guy that's got fuck you money.
And so he just does whatever the fuck he wants.
hotep jesus
But there's a lot of people who fuck you money that go along with the bull, right?
joe rogan
They don't want to lose it.
They get scared.
hotep jesus
And then in the top three is Dave Chappelle.
Like that stand-up he did on Netflix that he got in trouble for?
I was like, oh my god, did he just say that today in this time period?
joe rogan
I watched him develop it.
hotep jesus
Did you?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
We did a lot of shows together.
I watched him develop it at Stubbs in Austin and then some of the touring that we did.
Fucking expertly pieced together real story about a friend of his who killed herself because she was getting bullied right for supporting him I mean that's like the half of it like there's a big chunk.
That's that it's all about that and it's funny yeah, and it's real yeah, and Anybody that says it's transphobic all you're saying is that he can't talk about trans people then because he's not talking about it in a transphobic way It's not it's just not yeah So you're saying he can't talk about it at all or he's transphobic?
Is this the level of sensitivity you're requiring?
Like your subject can't even be discussed?
hotep jesus
Can't even be discussed.
joe rogan
Or you want to be removed from the network?
You want fucking people to walk off the job and protest?
unidentified
Attacked.
hotep jesus
They attacked him last week, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
That poor kid was mentally ill.
The guy who rushed you on stage, yeah, he's mentally ill.
He's a homeless guy.
The problem there was the security.
How the fuck did the dude get that close to Dave Chappelle?
That's ridiculous.
hotep jesus
Yeah, he should've never made it to stage.
joe rogan
No, you gotta have better security.
But it's just this Will Smith thing opened up the door for smacking comedians.
hotep jesus
You know...
The Will Smith thing was funny.
I was on Will's side, though.
joe rogan
Were you really?
That's ridiculous.
unidentified
How could you support that position?
joe rogan
You said he wasn't even bad.
hotep jesus
Well, when I say support Will's side, I don't mean supporting Will.
I supported the idea that somebody got smacked at the Oscars.
That, to me, was special.
Right?
unidentified
Like, the names are variables, right?
hotep jesus
Like, it's just X and Y. X smacked Y at the Oscars.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But the smack, to me, wasn't nearly as shocking as him quivering.
unidentified
Like, when he was like, keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth.
joe rogan
He was emotional.
And I don't think he had realized at that moment that he had fucking flipped his life upside down.
I don't think he'd totally realize that.
For some reason, he thought he could get away with that.
That is a crazy thing to think you can do.
Just walk on stage, smack a guy, and then sit back down.
And then he did it, and not only did he do it, but they gave him the fucking Academy Award later, and he went up to give a speech!
And in the speech, he didn't say, hey, I'm sorry I assaulted that guy.
He didn't even say that!
He apologized for his actions.
But he didn't even apologize to Chris Rock.
Like, it's wild.
There's no supporting that.
But I do support the idea that someone got smacked.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because it's a human moment.
hotep jesus
Yes.
It's a human moment in a place that's not supposed to be human.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything is fucking polished and wearing bow ties and shit.
It's all goofy.
hotep jesus
Exactly.
It's goofy.
That's what I loved about the moment.
joe rogan
Okay, I get that.
Well, I love the fact that it wasn't really painful.
Chris didn't even budge.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
If Chris got hurt, then it would have been a real fucking problem.
Dude, people get knocked unconscious from getting slapped all the time.
All the time.
hotep jesus
All the time!
Like those smack contests?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not saying that he smacked him with that kind of force.
He did not.
But what if he punched him?
What if he punched him like that?
What if you didn't punch him hard, but he punched him like that?
If you just walk up and just smack him a little bit with your knuckles, is that different?
Because it's the same thing.
hotep jesus
It's the same thing.
joe rogan
Boss Rutten used to knock people unconsciously in pancreas with slaps.
In Japan, the early days of MMA, Japan didn't have a UFC-style organization.
They had a thing called Pancrase.
So in Pancrase, you're bare knuckle, but you can't close your fists.
You can punch to the body, but to the head, you gotta slap.
So these guys were walking around like this and fucking smashing each other.
You gotta watch this dude, Bas Rutten.
Bas Rutten, who's the king of pancreas.
Bas is this badass striker from Holland.
He figured out how to pull his hands way back.
His hands were super flexible.
So when he was hitting dudes, he wasn't using his fingers at all.
It was all palm.
unidentified
And he was just smashing guys with his palms.
joe rogan
Which, by the way, is harder than your knuckles.
It's actually better to hit somebody like that.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, my question is, if we're going to just let people slap people, why not let people punch people?
Because it's kind of the same thing.
hotep jesus
Right, yeah.
Nah, you're right.
joe rogan
This is Boss Rutten.
This is like a Boss Rutten highlight.
But he would smash people with his palms.
He could punch to the body, but then to the face you had a smack.
And they wore shin pads and wrestling shoes.
hotep jesus
I was about to say it looked like WWE. Boss was a fucking savage.
joe rogan
He was like the first real high-level striker that entered into mixed martial arts.
hotep jesus
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, when he started fighting, people were like, oh shit, this is like some next-level power.
Next-level Muay Thai from Holland.
But it was smacks, okay?
That's his technique.
So you punched a guy.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could knock someone the fuck out with a slap, so are you just letting them slap not that hard?
Like, what's the line there?
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I think it's wrong, right?
Yeah, obviously.
You're not supposed to, like...
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't be just smacking people.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you can't just be walking around smacking people, I guess.
joe rogan
Those smack contests are ridiculous.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they just stand in front of each other and smack each other in the head.
You realize, like, people go out cold from slaps.
hotep jesus
Yeah, but how about this?
How about in a time where there's no masculinity, we have violence?
joe rogan
Right.
It's true.
Extreme violence.
hotep jesus
Well, Will Smith is an act of that.
So is his reaction feminine or masculine?
joe rogan
Well...
It's neither.
hotep jesus
Okay.
joe rogan
It's foolhardy.
It's not connected to a gender.
It's just foolish.
hotep jesus
Okay.
joe rogan
It's probably got some dumb male bravado.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
And some posing mixed in there.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's foolish.
Okay.
Assault should only take place when it's really assault.
You shouldn't like fake assault people.
You know, assault should be assault.
hotep jesus
But back in the day, like, when you wanted to...
Remember I was talking about the original white man of America.
He got his glove out, and he come up, smack you with his glove, right?
Like, let's go outside and duel, right?
Like, I saw it a little bit like that.
joe rogan
It would go back to back with them little musket pistols.
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I saw, like, that was that type of act of aggression from Will Smith.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he can't do that to someone who's that little.
The thing is, it's like, that guy's real little.
hotep jesus
Yeah, it was definitely a mismatch.
joe rogan
Chris is real little, dude.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Have you met him?
hotep jesus
No, but I can see it on stage.
joe rogan
Great guy.
Very, very funny guy.
I guarantee you he's just being silly.
Like, that thing that he said was not even bad.
He said it about Demi Moore's movie.
hotep jesus
Demi Moore's fucking beautiful.
But don't they got history?
Will Smith and...
joe rogan
Apparently, because Chris Rock has been talking shit for a while.
hotep jesus
Yeah, so I thought it was personal.
joe rogan
But you can't do that at the Oscars because you're being overreactionary.
So to him, he's dealing with years and years of Chris Rock.
He said, one fucking thing about you, I'm going to smack him in his fucking face.
You better smack him for me.
hotep jesus
He hit a boiling point.
I think Will Smith hit a boiling point.
joe rogan
I don't know what it was, but it's silly.
That's a silly way for a man to behave.
That's silly.
hotep jesus
What was the better way to react?
joe rogan
He was laughing at first until she gave him a sideways eye.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I didn't notice that.
joe rogan
He was laughing.
He was laughing.
hotep jesus
And then she looked at him like...
joe rogan
And it was so mild.
It was G.I. Jane.
G.I. Jane was a movie about a woman who was a Navy SEAL. She's a badass.
It's not a negative.
It's Demi Moore.
She's beautiful.
There's nothing negative about that movie.
It's not like you're saying you look dumb and dumber.
You know, like something rude.
You're like, ugh.
G.I. Jane is a movie about a woman who becomes a fucking SEAL. It's not an insult.
hotep jesus
That's a good point.
joe rogan
And she looks good!
hotep jesus
She does look good.
joe rogan
She looks good with a shaved head.
She can pull it off.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
No, she does look good.
joe rogan
It's like, if you're getting upset at that, that's crazy.
You're a crazy person.
You're looking to get upset.
You gotta fucking fuse like this.
Spang!
unidentified
Spang!
joe rogan
That's what it is.
Short fuse.
Fucking Chris Rock, you can't smack Chris Rock.
hotep jesus
Do you think he smacked August Alsina?
joe rogan
What's that?
hotep jesus
You think he smacked August Alsina?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Do you think he did?
hotep jesus
I think he did.
Maybe.
joe rogan
People are like, oh, you didn't do the August Alsina.
When Will Smith was in Muhammad Ali, when he played Ali, Will Smith learned how to box.
You watch Will Smith move around, he does not move around like an actor that's just taking coaching.
He's moving like a boxer.
He'd probably fuck a lot of people up.
hotep jesus
Oh, absolutely.
He's pretty tall, he's jacked, he's in shape.
joe rogan
He's not the guy that should be slapping Chris Rock.
hotep jesus
That's a good point.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Chris Rock's like 150 pounds, man.
hotep jesus
I think he should have did it after.
Had a 1v1 talk.
joe rogan
Even then, you should talk to him.
hotep jesus
That's what I'm saying.
Talk to him.
joe rogan
Don't hit him.
hotep jesus
Like, yo, can you relax?
joe rogan
Look, if he said something terrible and rude, then that's a different thing.
If he's saying something about your wife in front of you, and you're like, hey, man.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck and you just want you just I'm not taking this shit, but that's not even that rude.
Yeah It's like if you're gonna slap someone you jump the gun, but xx smacked y at the at the at the Oscars.
hotep jesus
Yes That needed to happen It needed to happen.
The Matrix needs reality checks.
joe rogan
Right.
A little, you're a human.
Smack!
This is what people do sometimes.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
It needs that, man.
Like going back to organic people, right?
Like, so for example, you know, there's like laws that say you can go retroactively update your birth certificate, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
So it's like, what about dating?
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
Right?
Dating in a market where you're not even sure what level of organic this person is.
Right?
Because obviously you have the breast augmentation and you got the BBLs and you got this and you got the face and you got the makeup because makeup is part of being inorganic.
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
And then you add in the potential of being one of the T people.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
So like for a guy dating right now I think what's going to happen is, at some point, organic women are going to come back into style really heavy.
Because of so many guys being duped by the T people.
And, also, the BBL stuff is starting to look crazy.
joe rogan
The BBL? Yeah.
hotep jesus
What's the BBL? The Brazilian butt lift.
joe rogan
Oh.
hotep jesus
It's starting to look crazy.
joe rogan
You brought it down to the BBL. It's starting to look crazy.
The problem is it has to match your legs.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
And if your butt is too big for your legs, it looks like you're wearing a diaper.
hotep jesus
Right.
Exactly.
joe rogan
Just get in shape, ladies.
Fuck your shortcuts.
hotep jesus
Agree, yeah.
Just get in shape.
joe rogan
Just do squats, deadlifts.
People have done it.
If you don't want to do it, I get it.
hotep jesus
But people have to develop that discipline.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
That's what people need to learn to develop.
Because it's like, okay, you went and got this operation, but you're going to need another one.
Because you never develop the discipline To get that body, therefore, you don't have the discipline to maintain that body.
joe rogan
Right.
There was a guy, we've played him on the podcast before, who's had everything done.
He's got fake biceps, fake thigh muscles.
His face looks like a doll.
They got all that shit in his face.
He's got fake pecs.
You gotta see this guy.
hotep jesus
I think I know who you're talking about.
joe rogan
What's the guy's name, Jamie?
Ken doll?
The human Ken doll?
hotep jesus
Oh yeah, I think I've seen that before.
joe rogan
I mean this is the same thing.
It's the same thing as the girls who get the crazy butt jobs.
It's the same thing.
It's just like you're going crazy and you'll never be perfect.
You're always gonna keep going.
You're gonna lose your mind on this.
It's a sickness.
It's like you've got a gambling disease or something.
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's, um, again, people not being happy with themselves.
joe rogan
Oh, that guy?
Oh, my God.
He found two friends.
So this guy, you gotta see him, like, there's a bunch of videos of them doing this stuff.
Like, look, they put a jaw implant in on him.
hotep jesus
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah, look how his jaw looks all manly and shit.
That's because it's not real.
Like, that's not really his jaw.
They, like, added to his jaw.
I think he's had, how many...
jamie vernon
It was like a million dollars worth of surgeries.
joe rogan
It's like, how many surgeries, though?
jamie vernon
Oh.
joe rogan
It was like a cuckoo amount.
hotep jesus
Aesthetics consultant.
joe rogan
He's giving you consulting.
hotep jesus
I bet he is.
joe rogan
Yes.
hotep jesus
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks very odd.
hotep jesus
Oh, I can't look at it.
joe rogan
Yeah, see?
hotep jesus
It's scary.
joe rogan
But he's like, that body could have been achieved by just going to the gym.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's gone, and look at his thigh muscles and everything.
It's crazy.
Look at that.
Those are artificial.
So look at that.
He's got these bulging muscles in his thigh, but they're not real muscles.
They're like plastic things that they shove in there.
hotep jesus
This is what I'm talking about, man.
Inorganic people, man.
joe rogan
Gotta say, body doesn't look bad.
Right?
unidentified
Doesn't look bad.
joe rogan
Doesn't look bad.
I'm just being honest.
Like, if that was natural, I'd be like, that kid looks like a swimmer.
Looks easy, pretty fit.
hotep jesus
So what I'm saying is, then you have a child with somebody like that, and this is what's gonna turn men around, right?
They're gonna have a child with these women.
joe rogan
I don't think there's any worry about that guy having a child.
No, I'm talking about- Unless men can get pregnant.
I don't think there's any worry.
Clearly, that fellow.
hotep jesus
So guys are gonna have...
remember the dude that had a baby with his wife and it turned out super ugly like that and he sued her?
joe rogan
Oh, that was in China, I think.
I don't know if that was real.
hotep jesus
I don't know if it's real, but that's just an example of what's coming.
Right.
For example, LeVar Ball specifically bred his kid to be basketball players by the wife he chose.
He said it.
You know what I mean?
He's like, I chose a woman who had the DNA. I played basketball and she's tall.
Which is very intelligent.
I always tell guys, don't look for a wife.
Look for a mother of your children.
That's what you want to date.
That's what you want to marry.
You know what I'm saying?
So, wait, were we talking about this?
Mike Tyson?
joe rogan
It's ridiculous, right?
We're talking about LeVar and his children.
unidentified
LeVar, right.
hotep jesus
So he's selecting, genetically selecting, going back to the whole abortion thing and why I'm a fan of it.
He's genetically selecting.
Men are going to have to start genetically selecting in order for...
This side of the political aisle to maintain any type of cultural stability.
You know what I mean?
Because when everything's inorganic, that means it's artificial and it's just fickle, right?
It's not real, right?
It just has nothing to stand on.
There's no substance.
But the real, the real culture, right?
Like, that has staying power.
You know what I mean?
This stuff is going to come and go, right?
So when guys date women and they start having, and they're like, yo, why did my child look like this?
They aren't going to like that.
And then organic women are going to become a huge, huge commodity in the Dayton marketplace.
joe rogan
But the monkey wrench in that equation is this CRISPR technology.
hotep jesus
Who?
joe rogan
You don't know about all that?
hotep jesus
What's that?
joe rogan
CRISPR is, I don't know what the acronym stands for, but it's gene editing.
hotep jesus
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Gene editing through, I think it's through viruses.
I think they did they figured out some way to I think I'm gonna fuck this up But it was something in what they've recognized like there's a component of viruses that it seems like viruses had been Keep I'm fucking this up already, but essentially what it is is that it allows them to splice out certain traits Yeah So they can edit if they know that there's certain genes that cause like hepatitis they can So how does it explain it how it works here?
hotep jesus
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's super complex.
hotep jesus
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying.
joe rogan
But what it is, is the simple man's, which is the only way I should really be talking about this, is that it's gene editing.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
And they've already done it in China, to fetuses.
So they've done it to human beings.
hotep jesus
Mm.
joe rogan
And they put doctors in jail for it already.
unidentified
Mm.
joe rogan
But my concern is that they're gonna get, they're already on CRISPR too, and they're gonna get better and better at this, and to the point where you could have a child and just turn into the Hulk.
Like, your child could be eight foot tall, 700 pounds of solid muscle, and be like, holy shit!
And your child's just walking through buildings, smashing things to the side.
That's real.
hotep jesus
Damn, you just sold me a Hulk child and a cybernetic spine.
joe rogan
And a cybernetic spine.
And then you could do all kinds of stuff in terms of brain activity.
You can even induce certain states that would perhaps weaken emotional attachment but increase their ability to do mathematics.
You could dial in the brain the way you would fucking tune an engine.
hotep jesus
That's what they want, man.
joe rogan
Well, that's what people want.
And that's what technology wants.
There's all this they talk.
There's definitely a they.
I mean, when you see Klaus Schwab in front of the World Economic Forum, you're like, holy shit.
Life is a Batman movie.
What is happening?
How is that a real thing?
That's a real thing.
But they is us.
And what we want is better technology.
And what technology wants is for us to build the fucking cocoon that turns the caterpillar into the butterfly.
That's what it is.
That's why we want an iPhone 14. I heard they made the chin of the iPhone at the top.
I made it smaller.
Need to get it.
We're out of our fucking minds.
We're paying for this thing to take over.
We're building this thing with our greedy desire to have better electronics.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
The technology's taking over like all of the science fiction people say, right?
Like the technology's taking over.
Yeah, it's totally happening.
joe rogan
How come they're running out of baby formula, they're not running out of iPhones?
unidentified
Mmm.
hotep jesus
Africa.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Africa.
So, I rewrote the Constitution, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you told me that.
How'd you do that?
Is that what the book is?
hotep jesus
This is the Patriot Report.
This isn't me rewriting the Constitution.
This is me basically exposing why the Constitution's bullshit.
joe rogan
Why is the Constitution bullshit?
The Patriot Report.
hotep jesus
So basically, the way I look at the Constitution is the first communist document.
joe rogan
How is it a communist talking about?
hotep jesus
Oh, because communism is centralization of power, right?
And basically what you had is, obviously, you know, the Federalists versus the Anti-Federalists, right?
So the Federalists, they all want all these states to be under one power, the consolidation of power.
You got consolidation of power.
I call it the definition of communism, the centralization of power within the hands of the state, right?
unidentified
Right.
hotep jesus
So that's basically what that is, right?
So in the Patriot Report, basically what I was doing, I wanted to track, like...
I connected money to war.
Obviously, they go together.
So I noticed that every time a war popped up, like, there was a central bank that was like a necessity, right?
So I basically tracked all the central banks of America, right?
The North American Bank, First Bank, Second Bank, so on and so forth, all the way through to the Federal Reserve, right?
And what I noticed was, like, people like Alexander Hamilton were tripping, tripping.
joe rogan
In one way.
hotep jesus
Just like the advocation for a central bank, right?
So they're arguing over, I think it was Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, right?
And he sees it one way and Jefferson sees it another way, right?
So the Constitution comes down to interpretation, right?
So if this argument is happening with Alexander Hamilton, And it's happening with Jefferson.
This is early America.
Like, at what point did we really have a chance, right?
If you had the first Bank of America is basically practicing embezzlement, right?
Like, the first Bank of the United States is...
Run by Robert Morris.
And Robert Morris is basically appropriating funds out of the very first central bank for the United States government.
So I'm like, this country's been bought from the very beginning.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
In all fairness, though, wasn't that a radical idea to even separate from the idea of kings and subjects?
hotep jesus
No.
joe rogan
It wasn't?
hotep jesus
It's a terrible idea.
joe rogan
No, but it was at the time.
In 1776, it was pretty radical.
hotep jesus
Oh, yes, it was radical.
joe rogan
Leaving, and also, you had to fight for it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because, you know, there was a revolutionary war.
hotep jesus
So, again, going back to Russia, right?
What happened with Russia?
Russia was dealing with, had a monarchy.
And what came?
A democratic republic.
Well, what is the United States supposed to be?
A democratic republic.
These are Bolshevik communists overthrowing a czar monarchy to install a democratic republic, or they say democratic socialism.
You see what I'm saying?
What is that?
Centralization of power within the hands of the state.
But a monarchy is still centralization of power, except it just comes down to one man and one family.
However, I believe that happens to be better than a democratic republic.
Okay?
Another story for another day.
But that's basically what that is, right?
So when I look at the Constitution, I say, okay, so what's wrong with the Constitution, right?
The first problem is it centralizes the power within the federal government.
The second problem is it's too damn long.
So, I rewrote it.
joe rogan
What'd you edit out?
What parts?
hotep jesus
I'm gonna read it to you.
joe rogan
Okay.
Really?
hotep jesus
Leave me the fuck alone.
joe rogan
I like that.
hotep jesus
Done.
joe rogan
That's pretty good.
hotep jesus
Done.
That's all it needed to say.
Once you started...
Again, attorneys.
You give attorneys words, oh, they'll mince those all day.
So the more you add on, it just turns into animal farm.
They just start amending and amending and interpreting and amending.
How do you misinterpret?
Leave me the fuck alone.
joe rogan
What's fascinating to me is the reluctance that people have to objectively address the Second Amendment.
Just look at it for what it really is.
unidentified
The Second Amendment was made back when people had ARs.
joe rogan
They'll say all kinds of crazy things like that.
And then they'll say, what are you going to do?
Take arms up against the government?
Because it talks about an armed militia.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
But then Australia happened during the lockdowns when people were literally knocking on your door, making sure you didn't leave your house.
You couldn't go to work and you had to get vaccinated.
There's a lot of people that go, oh, we don't have guns.
This is what happens when they have guns and you don't have guns.
It's not good because the whole conversation is flavored different.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's flavored very different in Australia than it is in America.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
Because they're unarmed.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
Like, that's not good.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's not good.
And people say, oh, you're going to fight the government?
Definitely not.
Not going to fight the government.
But guess what?
The government kind of needs to know that the people have guns, too.
Yes.
Because when they're the only ones with guns, it's a fucking squirrely time because we have to rely on their ethics and their morals to be kind and just and fair and not be influenced by profit.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Well, that's my problem with black people because on one hand, they'll say, oh, we're under a system of white supremacy and all this other stuff.
And I'm like, on the other hand, y'all saying y'all want gun control.
I'm like, wait, if we're in a country full of white supremacy, don't you want to have your gun to protect yourself?
Like, that doesn't make any sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want crime control.
That's what you want.
You don't want gun control.
You want to stop gang violence in your neighborhood.
You want to help people get out of bad systems that they're locked into.
hotep jesus
You want to be able to protect yourself.
joe rogan
Because you never fucking know.
hotep jesus
Right.
Well, look at Texas, right?
What they say, armed society is a polite society, right?
joe rogan
They're so polite here.
hotep jesus
Exactly.
joe rogan
Super polite.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You go to Jersey, everybody's an asshole.
Yes.
joe rogan
In Chicago, people are a little rougher, too.
But a lot of people are armed illegally in Chicago.
It's one of those things, man.
hotep jesus
Jersey's the reason why I'm an asshole.
People are like, yeah, you're such an asshole.
I'm like, I'm from Jersey.
joe rogan
What part are you from?
hotep jesus
Central.
But, like, Jersey, you know, like...
joe rogan
Like, what is central?
What's central New Jersey?
hotep jesus
There's, like, Rutgers, New Brunswick.
joe rogan
Oh, Rutgers is where that kid got killed by a bear.
hotep jesus
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, a student.
hotep jesus
Damn.
joe rogan
Rutgers student out for a little hike got killed by a bear.
hotep jesus
Oh, that's definitely possible in Jersey.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's wild.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You never think of Jersey as being a place where people get killed by bears.
hotep jesus
Yeah, they got parts.
They got parts.
Lots of mountains in Jersey.
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
A lot of bears out there.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to say a lot.
joe rogan
There's a lot.
hotep jesus
Is there?
joe rogan
More bears per capita in New Jersey than the rest of the United States.
hotep jesus
Get the hell out of here.
joe rogan
I didn't know that.
New Jersey is the number one state in the country for black bears.
hotep jesus
Wow.
joe rogan
And they're huge.
hotep jesus
No way.
joe rogan
Dude.
hotep jesus
Never would have guessed that.
joe rogan
There's videos of them duking it out in Far Rockaway, which is like a nice suburb.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's giant bears duking it out on people's lawns, knocking over mailboxes.
I'm talking like 400-pound bears.
Duking it out in the street.
It's crazy, and the cars are stopping.
hotep jesus
I knew we had bears, but I didn't know it was like that.
joe rogan
Bro, you have no idea.
hotep jesus
Oh my god.
joe rogan
My friend Jim Miller lives in New Jersey.
He lives in the rural area of New Jersey.
He's like, yeah, there's bears out here.
hotep jesus
Yeah, in a row, right, yes.
joe rogan
But a lot of bears.
A lot.
See if you find that it's Far Rockaway, New Jersey bear fight.
Bro, it's crazy.
These are giant bears, man.
They're huge.
And they're smashing into things and wrestling in the middle of the street.
And cars are stopped.
It's like a normal suburb.
Like this really nice house and these fucking giant bears on the front lawn of this beautiful suburban house.
Look at this.
Look at this.
hotep jesus
Bro!
joe rogan
Imagine that's your fucking kitchen, and you look out, and these two giant-ass bears are duking it out.
Dude, these are big bears!
So these are big, dominant boars.
For a black bear, these are fucking huge, man.
These are dominant boars, and they're fighting over the territory, because they want the garbage cans.
So just imagine going outside and seeing this.
Fuck.
So this goes on for like fucking ten minutes, and they spill out into the street, and then cars are...
See if we can fast-forward this, because it keeps going, and they...
Give me some volume, too, because they growl at each other and shit.
Look, so they're out in the middle of the fucking street.
Cars are stopped.
Look at the big chunks of fur flying off of them.
hotep jesus
They going at it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, these are big fucking bears, man.
You can see in relation to how big the car is, these are very big bears.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a big ass bear.
joe rogan
Fuck that bear!
Fuck that!
Fuck that!
That's in your neighborhood?
And the reason why is because they made bear hunting illegal in New Jersey.
So the governor, in his infinite progressive wisdom, decided, when I get into office, I'm going to stop them from killing Yogi.
Poor Yogi, leave him alone!
hotep jesus
You see what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They've ignored the science of wildlife management.
hotep jesus
Progressives are terrible, man.
joe rogan
Well, guys like him are terrible.
Those kind of ideas are terrible.
When you don't look at wildlife management scientifically, you get dangerous situations like giant bears fighting in the middle of your fucking street.
hotep jesus
Right, you don't want the population exploding.
joe rogan
And knowing that, there's no fucking cap on it.
There's no predators.
So it's just going to keep going.
hotep jesus
Yeah, we're the only predator, right.
joe rogan
That's it.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or grizzlies.
Either we bring in grizzlies.
What the fuck are we going to do?
It's so crazy.
hotep jesus
Damn, that's wild, man.
joe rogan
A guy got killed yesterday in Alaska, a soldier.
He was on some sort of a training thing, and he got killed by a grizzly bear.
hotep jesus
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
hotep jesus
Fuck bears.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck bears.
hotep jesus
That's why I don't do all that extra stuff, man.
joe rogan
Fuck bears.
Bears scare the shit out of me.
hotep jesus
Do they?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
unidentified
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not like cats, though.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Cats.
Big cats.
hotep jesus
Oh, like tigers and stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, just like a mountain lion.
You ever lock eyes with a big cat?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
Not fun.
hotep jesus
Scary?
joe rogan
It's a bad situation.
hotep jesus
Oh, because you were out there hunting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I've only seen one where I looked in his eyes, and that was from a truck.
unidentified
But it was only about 30 yards away, but he was huge.
joe rogan
He was really big.
hotep jesus
Mountain lion?
joe rogan
Big mountain lion.
I mean, like, more than 170 pounds.
He was big.
Big ass head, like a pumpkin, giant forearms, and just looking at you like this.
hotep jesus
How far away?
joe rogan
30 yards.
I'm looking at him with binoculars from inside the car, too, so I'm closing on him.
hotep jesus
At least he was in the car.
joe rogan
Thank God I was in the car.
I would have shit all of my pants if I was outside.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
My homie Donovan, he wants me to come out there and go hunting and all that stuff.
And I'm like, Hotep don't take chances.
joe rogan
It's the best way to get meat though, man.
hotep jesus
That's what he does.
He hunts and he went out there with Kan and Hotep and they've been hunting.
They got turkey last time.
Yeah.
joe rogan
My question is, what happens when things go sideways?
What do you mean?
If things go sideways, like with society, you want to be able to hunt for food.
hotep jesus
That's correct.
joe rogan
You want to have a little bit of experience doing that, because there's some things you've got to know.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I'm going to just go vegan.
joe rogan
Like Canelo Alvarez?
hotep jesus
We'll trade.
I'll get the Garmin and Permaculture thing going.
You hunt.
We'll swap.
Sure.
joe rogan
You can keep your vegetables.
I barely eat them now.
hotep jesus
You don't season your meat?
joe rogan
No.
I put pepper and salt on meat.
hotep jesus
You don't eat any salad?
joe rogan
No.
I eat fruit.
unidentified
There you go.
hotep jesus
We're going to have some fruit for you.
Yeah, we're going to have some fruit.
Fruit's actually what you want.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so.
hotep jesus
Yeah, fruit's really good for you.
A lot of people, they go vegan and they go vegetable.
Vegetables are more like when you're feeling under the weather.
Really what you want, or after you had something back, because it's very alkaline, but really what you want is fruit, man.
Fruit is good.
It's hydrating.
I would say if I went back vegan again, I'd probably go frugivore over anything.
joe rogan
Frugivore.
unidentified
Frugivore.
joe rogan
They say that eating shellfish, specifically clams and mussels, that you get animal protein, but they're so primitive that they're more primitive than plants.
Plants are a more sophisticated organism than mollusks.
They don't feel shit.
They don't even know they're alive.
They're just like a bundle of meat.
It's like free meat.
hotep jesus
No way.
joe rogan
Yeah, like a clam has no heart, no soul.
No, just scoop those fuckers out and eat them raw.
Oysters, fuck you, oyster.
You ain't doing shit in here.
It's free meat.
hotep jesus
It's free meat.
joe rogan
It's free meat, because it's like karma-free meat.
hotep jesus
What are the benefits?
joe rogan
Oh, there's a lot of benefits to animal protein.
Yeah, there's a lot of benefits.
hotep jesus
I mean, specifically to oyster protein?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, I don't know what the breakdown would be, but it's got to be...
Definitely, it's an animal form of protein, right?
So you get your B vitamins from it, and it's probably more bioavailable than some plant-based proteins.
There's definitely good things in that, but there's also bad things with eating any kind of seafood at this point in time.
If you eat it over long periods of time, like that's a big part of your diet, you can get heavy metal poisons.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get people that eat a lot of tuna.
Yeah, people that eat a lot of tuna and a lot of, especially like big animals that eat a lot of fish.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because those are the ones that apparently have the highest amounts of that shit.
hotep jesus
Yeah, because tuna's a big fish, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're out there fucking everything up.
hotep jesus
Yeah, so you can definitely get mercury poisoning.
joe rogan
You ever see when they have those Japanese fish markets where they bring in these tuna and you get to see what they look like in real life, like how big they are?
hotep jesus
Yeah, they're huge.
joe rogan
Enormous.
hotep jesus
Yeah, tuna's a very huge fish.
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
And that's something we're doing for sure.
We are sucking those goddamn things out of the ocean in record numbers.
They never thought that.
Imagine being a tuna for like a million years.
Like every now and then I get got, but for the most part, I'm getting out of there.
You know, I'm fucking getting by.
And then all of a sudden people come along with nets.
And just...
hotep jesus
Scooping you out.
joe rogan
You can't even get free.
There's no way to get free.
You're in a fucking net with everybody else.
You're like, oh my god, and it's closing in.
And then they hoist you up in a crane and dump you onto ice, and you suffocate to death.
unidentified
Mm.
hotep jesus
That's a wicked way to go out.
joe rogan
You get pulled out of your world into a world you didn't even know existed.
A world above the water.
Like what kind of parallel dimension, nightmare horror movie is it for a fucking tuna to get captured in a net and then cranked up on a crane and dropped into the belly of the boat?
Holy fuck.
hotep jesus
I have a theory that we live in water right now.
Like me and you right now are technically like swimming in water.
joe rogan
How come we don't know it?
unidentified
Water...
hotep jesus
Because you haven't met Hotep Jesus yet and he hasn't told you.
joe rogan
I've met you before.
hotep jesus
Well, I'm saying the general public.
joe rogan
Okay.
hotep jesus
But this ocean that we're in can be felt, right?
Like if you move your hand really fast.
joe rogan
It's an ocean of air.
hotep jesus
Right.
But that means that You can be affected by the vibratory frequency of the things around you.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
Including people.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
hotep jesus
Right?
joe rogan
You definitely can, right?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Very much like an ocean.
Those waves.
A frequency is waves, right?
Length, height, width, height.
So, this ocean that we're in, It's part of that law of attraction I was talking about before, right?
Like, what you put out, it comes back.
Because if you were to go and do an ocean experiment, you push the water, it hits this thing and it bounces back.
So what you put out comes back, right?
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
But I'm saying it in a very literal sense as if, like, we are in this ocean because there are vibrations.
And just because water is more dense than this air does not mean that this isn't a form of liquid.
joe rogan
Right, or something.
hotep jesus
Something.
joe rogan
Matter.
hotep jesus
Matter, right.
joe rogan
Or something there.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's measurable.
hotep jesus
It's measurable, right.
joe rogan
Yeah, like the oxygen content in the atmosphere, the nitrogen content, they can measure all that.
hotep jesus
Yeah, it's there.
Something is technically here.
joe rogan
Right.
And you measure the atmospheric pressure as well, right?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Which is why it's weird when you get into altitude, high altitude.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you hear your star popping on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's fascinating, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because we are in a thing.
hotep jesus
We are in a thing.
joe rogan
And then we're also spreading moisture through our mouths from talking in the air.
And neither one of us are sick, so we don't have to worry about it.
But if one of us was, the other one would get exposed to whatever that person has in them.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
Well, that was the origination of variolation.
joe rogan
What's variolation?
hotep jesus
Well, variolation is the origin of vaccination, right?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Vaccination's some BS. I think that was Edward Jenner created that, and he ended up killing some of his kids.
He's the father of...
joe rogan
He experimented on his own kids?
hotep jesus
Yeah, he was giving them vaccines, yeah.
joe rogan
Didn't they originally, they would make cuts and take, like, a piece of someone that had, like, some chicken pox or something like that?
hotep jesus
That's called variolation.
joe rogan
That's it?
hotep jesus
Yeah, that's called variolation.
joe rogan
Okay, in Asia, practitioners developed the technique of variolation, the deliberate infection with smallpox.
Wow.
Dried smallpox scabs were blown into the nose of an individual who then contracted a mild form of the disease.
Upon recovery, the individual was immune to smallpox.
Whoa, how did they even figure that out?
hotep jesus
So then go to images.
joe rogan
Who took the first chance?
hotep jesus
You'll see them shooting it into the dude's nose.
joe rogan
Oh, yo, from far away.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
What year was this they figured this out?
hotep jesus
That's a good question.
joe rogan
Wow.
hotep jesus
So that's the origin, right?
So when they talk about giving us these...
joe rogan
1720, is that what it says?
hotep jesus
18th century, yeah.
joe rogan
The method was first used in China, India, and parts of Asia and the Middle East before was introduced to England and North America in the 1720s to the face of some opposition.
The method is no longer used today.
It was replaced by smallpox vaccine.
hotep jesus
Bingo!
joe rogan
A safer alternative.
A safer alternative.
hotep jesus
You see what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Maybe it is safer, though.
hotep jesus
Allegedly.
joe rogan
But it might be safer.
hotep jesus
Allegedly.
joe rogan
But what if it is, though?
unidentified
I don't want to get smallpox, bro.
joe rogan
You know, I've been on the smallpox kick over the last few months.
Because I read, my friend Hank turned me on to the book about Cabeza de Baca.
Is it a strange place, that's what it's called?
A Place So Strange?
I think it's A Place So Strange.
hotep jesus
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And it's all about him arriving in North America.
And Cabeza de Vaca was a Spanish explorer.
They were traveling, I think he was from Spain, traveling through a land so strange, that's it.
So he's making his way across the country, and all the stuff that these guys see, it's all gone by the time people come back like 100 years later, because everyone gets smallpox.
When they talk about the Mayans and they talk about the way they were dressed, they talk about the Native American tribes, 90% of the Native American tribes were wiped out by diseases from the white men.
So when these guys showed up, when they showed up and just spit into the air, the fucking ocean of particles of spit, just like you and I are breathing in, got into these people and wiped out 90% of the population.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
joe rogan
That's wild.
hotep jesus
That is wild, yeah.
The real thing that killed off the natives was dependency.
joe rogan
Well, 90% of them died from the fucking viruses.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
But the rest is all dependency.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, they definitely tricked them into dependency.
They tricked them into dependency by getting them onto reservations, by hunting them down and overwhelming them.
hotep jesus
Yeah, because before they were hunting and the white man showed them traps and then they changed their styles, all types of different things.
And the alcohol hit and then they got addicted to alcohol.
So it's like dependency.
That's the one thing that Marxism uses as well to demoralize the population.
Speaking of Russia and Ukraine, in that historical background, you have people who...
Basically land lease, right?
And the people who once owned the land are now slaves to the land because they were selling them alcohol on credit.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
hotep jesus
This is like the origins of Russia and Ukraine.
But using substances, right?
And then using the financial trickery, right?
Saying basically, look...
Alright, you don't have any money to pay me.
I'll give you this on credit, but I have to own your land and you can just pay me back based upon land, but the interest is so high you'll never actually pay it back.
joe rogan
Some countries do that to third world countries when they give them loans, right?
That's how they do it.
They give them loans, they know they can't pay.
hotep jesus
Right.
Yeah.
So that's like the chicanery that happened and still happens, right?
But the dependency is another thing that they use to demoralize the population.
Baby formula, food, shortage, right?
Now your dependency, what are you going to be depending on?
Now you're going to be depending on government sources for food.
Now you're going to be depending on...
What's the monthly payment stuff that they're going to come out with?
Oh, universal basic income.
joe rogan
I just think that was a good idea before the pandemic.
During the pandemic, when everybody's getting the money from the government, people didn't want to work.
And I was like, oh, this is not good.
This is not smart.
hotep jesus
Well, that's what they wanted.
They wanted the universal basic.
That's what they want is universal basic income and then...
joe rogan
You've got to give people some incentive to do things.
$1,000 per month universal basic income pilot program on Austin City Council agenda.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those dudes are just going to do a lot of coke.
jamie vernon
It's a small amount of people.
joe rogan
85 families.
I'm not accusing those 85 families of being cokeheads.
But I think for families that are struggling, that's one thing.
But for everybody, they were going to give it to every person.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to be like a free thing.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
I think it has to come with, like, if I were to do a program, it would be more like a job program.
Like, I'll pay you while you get these marketable skills, while you train in these marketable skills, but I'm not going to pay you to just, like, do nothing.
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a certain amount of entitlement that people have today that they just did not have before, where they feel like the government owes them something, regardless of how little or how much they put into the system.
They feel like the government owes them something.
So when you say to those people, hey, what do you think about universal basic income?
Everybody gets $1,200 a month.
They're like, yeah, we deserve it.
You should fucking give us the money, man.
They start thinking goofy.
hotep jesus
And then you get inflation.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's not good.
hotep jesus
Yeah, and that's what we're hitting now.
joe rogan
And outpacing increases in salaries, too.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
Cost of living, and then you have supply shortages, so things are more expensive, harder to get.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I mean, if everybody gets $1,200, what's going to happen to your rent?
joe rogan
I don't think it's a good idea to give everybody $1,200.
I think some people need a fire lit under their ass.
And if you want to make more exceptional people in this country, I don't think the way to do that is to give everybody $1,200.
hotep jesus
No.
joe rogan
That doesn't mean I don't think that you should have welfare programs and social safety net programs.
I think you should.
Because I think sometimes people are fucked.
Sometimes things go wrong.
Sometimes a spouse loses a husband or a wife and you're fucked.
There's no way to make a living and you're stuck.
hotep jesus
You have to allow people to fail.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You've got to, as a community, be able to help people out.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Like I said, I always say, like, if I was dictated to the black community, you know, or president of the United States, I would take away all welfare programs, like every last one, and then tell everybody, you'll figure it out.
Figure it out.
Because that's the best thing for people.
joe rogan
But is it the best thing for a person who is raising children and is stuck because they have to work and they're barely getting by already?
hotep jesus
I'm telling you right now...
joe rogan
But for right now...
hotep jesus
What I'm saying is they're barely getting by because somebody has created a system of dependency.
If we remove the system of dependency, that person would probably be better off because...
I'm not going to name names, but the great black celebrities of the world or the great celebrities of the world would come to those people aid.
You would see massive amounts of money raised if the government pulled back and massive amounts of people organizing.
People don't organize and they don't want us organizing because of the dependency, right?
Keep dependency because if you start organizing, you render the government obsolete.
joe rogan
So do you think that if people didn't have welfare, there would be a steady enough supply of people donating?
A steady enough supply?
hotep jesus
You would have co-ops.
Before there was government aid, there was co-ops.
Before the black community had government programs, they had co-ops.
People were cooperating.
Hey, you know, we'll swap this.
This is how we're organizing.
People were organizing.
And they said, wait, people are organizing.
How do you stop organizing?
Replace them.
What are they doing?
Instead of you guys doing that, here's $1,200 a month.
Don't organize.
Because if you organize, you rented a government obsolete.
But the black community was organizing under...
They were like co-ops, but they called them something else.
I can't remember.
But they're just co-ops, right?
People need to organize.
But if you keep people dependent...
They'll never organize.
So what I say is if I pull back all the welfare programs, you would see massive amounts of organization to help people, to help Grandma and to help Lil Jon Jon.
joe rogan
But do you think it would be consistent enough to maintain the amount of money those people were getting before the pandemic?
hotep jesus
I believe over the long term, they would be better.
joe rogan
Over the long term.
hotep jesus
Over the long term, the people as a whole would be better.
In the short term, that individual is going to struggle.
It's going to struggle.
But I think that over the long term, it would be better for people.
So it's just like, should we have a dependent slave population?
Or should we make a long term decision and have a population of people that are free and completely independent?
joe rogan
I see what you're saying, but I feel like along the way some children are gonna get fucked up.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Because if there's no food, and no one's taking care of them, and then the welfare checks stop coming in.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
There's gonna be some...
hotep jesus
But that's to say that children right now aren't fucked up.
joe rogan
Right.
But they're gonna be more fucked up.
If there's no money for food, and there's no welfare.
hotep jesus
Now.
But what you're doing is you're exasperating the problem.
So if you have, let's say under the way things are happening now, you have 10 million children suffering.
If you continue, you'll have 100 million.
So what I'm saying is, make a decision now.
To stop here, stop the bleeding here.
And yes, you're going to have short term losses, but over the long term, children will start to grow and things will be better.
joe rogan
So let's look at extreme poverty in this country as if it was like a mathematical problem.
So if it was an equation, how would you solve that equation?
It's clear there's a certain amount of it and there's a lot of factors involved.
How would you ever mitigate those factors?
I hear what you're saying about welfare and it makes sense that eventually you're going to have to fix this, so fix it now.
And it'll be difficult at first, but fix it now.
hotep jesus
I would first stop every program.
So I'm going to show you right now how you create poverty in Africa.
So basically what you want to do is you want to take the losing team of the Super Bowl.
They already had t-shirts printed up.
We can't sell those.
So what we're going to do is we're going to send those to some third world nation that we created, made a third world nation.
Well, what happens when you see a pile of these shirts?
I went to Africa.
I've seen these piles of shirts, okay?
joe rogan
Really?
hotep jesus
Yes, in Tanzania.
I've seen the pile of shirts that we give them.
I mean, it's like a mountain.
joe rogan
They should sell those shirts on eBay.
hotep jesus
People would love it.
joe rogan
People would love those shirts in America.
They're missing the market.
It's a funny shirt.
hotep jesus
It's a funny shirt, exactly.
joe rogan
You know they didn't win.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You see what I'm saying?
joe rogan
They should sell it.
hotep jesus
So what happens, right?
Same thing happens with food.
So the local tailor or the local guy who sells clothes, If there's a pile of free clothes, why am I going to buy clothes?
So now the guy who's the tailor or owns the clothing shop is now unemployed, and now he's in poverty.
Then what do you do with food?
Well, I'm a local farmer, I'm a local restaurant, I'm a local this, but you should see the piles of food they have.
So if there's free food, this is how you destroy the economy.
Okay, I see what you're saying now.
You inflate the supply of resources so that people can't sustain themselves.
An economy must sustain itself based upon its production and demand, right?
joe rogan
So if you give people free food, it's not like they don't have to worry about food and now they can figure out the rest of their life.
It's just they relax because you're giving them free food.
hotep jesus
No, you put somebody out of business.
joe rogan
Yes, that too.
But you also make people dependent on you to come and bring them food.
hotep jesus
That's also true, yes.
And then you basically disincentivize people from getting married together.
joe rogan
You're saying something that's very pragmatic, but a lot of people don't want to say that because it makes you seem mean.
hotep jesus
It seems mean.
Yeah, it seems cold.
But actually it's more caring than what you're doing.
joe rogan
Ultimately, right?
Because you're going to have less overall suffering.
So it's almost like it's a management issue, like with how we've managed the human race.
You know, we've over-managed it in some places.
hotep jesus
No, it's a deliberate attack on somebody's economy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
It's not mismanagement.
joe rogan
No, I mean like all of us.
hotep jesus
Oh, collectively, yeah.
joe rogan
Collectively.
Yes, yes, yes.
I mean, what I'm saying is the human race has mismanaged itself.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
First of all, it's allowed some parts of it to egregiously dominate, like North Korea.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like we've mismanaged the idea of the human race.
hotep jesus
We made a wrong term back at Albuquerque.
Yes.
joe rogan
This is like one of the things I was having a conversation with some friends last night about Russia and the Ukraine.
I'm like, how insane it is that this is happening, that groups of people decide to go attack groups of people, that they're still doing that.
They're still going over to places and at the bidding of some other person who does not have their fucking best interest in mind, gunning down people and shooting missiles into apartment buildings.
In 2022. There's not a single soldier that's shooting a missile into an apartment building that knows the economic deep inside motivations for them doing this.
It's crazy that this can happen still.
That this can happen at this scale.
But that's human beings, man.
hotep jesus
Yes.
Well, the thing I say that exposes how low human beings are is money, right?
Now, money is an indicator of the current state of the human ego.
It exists for that.
It exposes the rudimentary state that the human race is in.
We are in a very low state if we need the money.
And money has been around for thousands of years, right?
joe rogan
But what makes us be in a low state with money?
hotep jesus
Money is a form of...
Trust.
It's basically saying, I don't trust you, but if we exchange this, then we're good.
You got cattle, I got this.
I'm just going to pay you money as a substitute.
It's a substitute for value.
That's all it is.
It's just a medium of exchange.
That's all money is.
It's just a medium of exchange.
It exists, and it's very necessary for the current state of our ego.
But what I'm saying is, if we were more of a selfless people, I don't believe we would need money.
joe rogan
The problem is some people are lazy.
So you can't just have free money.
hotep jesus
Correct.
That's the totality of humanity.
joe rogan
Like, why are you lazy?
There has to be some motivation for them to achieve things and contribute.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
That's a problem.
hotep jesus
Yes.
So that means, like, is the human...
Being able to ascend beyond that?
Or are we always going to have these different rungs of motivated and lazy people, right?
joe rogan
Well, what you're explaining, too, is like with Africa, if someone's willing to let people do that, if you know that this is what they're doing and you can see the results, you're not the only one.
hotep jesus
No.
joe rogan
There's got to be people that are letting this happen, watching it happen, studying it.
hotep jesus
Yeah, some people are threatened into allowing it to happen.
Some people are bribed into allowing it to happen.
joe rogan
The crazy stories about how China will go into countries and offer them crazy loans and change their infrastructure.
hotep jesus
They went into Tanzania and built the stadium in exchange for the water resources under the ground.
What?
Who signed off on that?
You traded water for stadium?
joe rogan
One of the things about the Hunter Biden thing was I went on a deep dive with the Hunter Biden laptop last night and all the craziness.
But one of the things was that in an email it said something about a Chinese billionaire who paid him $10 million annually.
Just for connections or something like that.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
So you can find that.
hotep jesus
Okay.
joe rogan
So you can find what he said.
unidentified
Mm.
joe rogan
That it was in an email.
Wow.
Imagine someone was paying him $10 million just to- Just for information.
Just to connect you to other people.
It's that valuable.
unidentified
Mm.
joe rogan
I think he was one of the directors of Burisma, which is a Ukrainian energy company.
Which makes sense, because who knows more about energy than crackheads?
They know a lot about energy.
So it completely makes sense why they would give that guy exorbitant amounts of money as well.
That whole story is like, if there is ever...
I mean, that was one of the dumbest fucking things that Twitter could have ever done.
If there's ever a dumb move.
What, saying that?
Banning that story.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And saying it wasn't true.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
hotep jesus
Saying it was Russian disinformation.
It was election time, though.
joe rogan
I know, but it's so crazy.
hotep jesus
It was election time, and they couldn't afford to lose another election because of our media.
That's the same thing that happened to Hillary.
joe rogan
Chinese energy firm gifted Hunter Biden an $80,000 diamond after he agreed to help expand the business by making introductions for $10 million a year.
So he's getting $10 million a year to make introductions.
So he must, I mean, and then there was the thing that he always said that he had to kick it up to the big guy.
He had to kick 10 up to the big guy, which supposedly people think is Joey.
jamie vernon
Is this proven though?
It just says claims a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
I don't know what's proven and what's not.
But I like to talk.
I like to talk shit.
jamie vernon
I have a question about that laptop thing.
joe rogan
Please.
jamie vernon
I've heard some people talk about it.
I haven't looked into it a lot myself.
Some of the pictures I've seen of him, you know, like he's doing smoking crack or whatever.
joe rogan
Who's taking the pictures?
jamie vernon
That's my question.
So we're like, who is taking those pictures and why would you keep them on your laptop?
joe rogan
Right.
And also, was this something that they created to knock Biden out of the race because they thought that Kamala Harris was going to win, but then they realized that Kamala Harris can't win because Tulsi Gabbard decapitated her on television.
And so then she was out, really.
Because they wanted, like, that woman would be, like, that would, they're late, checks all the boxes.
They could have had, if there was no Tulsi Gabbard, we might be looking at President Kamala Harris.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
So they were gonna, imagine, imagine, imagine you're trying, like, we're gonna sink this Biden battleship, so you get all the things lined up, and you push a couple of pieces out there, like, fuck, actually, we're gonna need him!
Pull it back!
Pull it back!
We're gonna need him, because, you know, we don't really have a viable candidate other than him.
No one's buying anybody.
They're not buying Mayor Pete, they're not buying Elizabeth Warren.
Shit!
We're gonna need the old guy.
hotep jesus
Fuck!
joe rogan
Are you serious?
We already did the thing with the laptop!
hotep jesus
Biden's scary.
The fact that he's not there.
joe rogan
He's not there at all.
hotep jesus
We don't have a president.
joe rogan
Did you see the other thing that he said about prostitute?
He used the word prostitute instead of prosecute?
hotep jesus
He's not there.
And I think that is an example to show how evil these people are.
To make somebody who you know...
Is not mentally able to do the job.
And at his age, just to be a caring human being, he shouldn't be.
He should be retired.
He should be relaxing.
He should be with his family.
joe rogan
A hundred percent.
hotep jesus
A lot of these people that are really elderly in Congress, let these people go live their life, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You know, get somebody young who needs a career, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I think that's evil to push him out there just so they can stay in control, right?
joe rogan
It's weird.
It's certainly weird.
hotep jesus
It's so weird.
It's very eerie to know, like...
Alright, so who's calling the shots?
joe rogan
How about when he turns and tries to shake people's hands when they're out there?
hotep jesus
Oh, during the Obama...
Remember when Obama was there?
Everybody was talking to Obama, and it was like...
joe rogan
He put his hands on Obama's shoulder, and he keeps talking to him.
Barack!
And Obama's like, hey, you over there?
I'm avoiding this guy touching me.
This crazy guy's on my back.
hotep jesus
Yeah, like, go sit down.
joe rogan
Like...
If Obama could be president again, he'd be president again tomorrow.
hotep jesus
Oh, easily.
joe rogan
Easily.
Easily.
He would win in a landslide.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I mean, he's just competent, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think his wife would win, too.
I think if she ran, she would win.
hotep jesus
Michelle would absolutely win.
joe rogan
Destroy it.
hotep jesus
I think Michelle could win over...
joe rogan
100%.
Over Trump.
Over everybody.
hotep jesus
Over everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, she could win easy.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that would be a wild race.
But what about Kamala, right?
joe rogan
She's not going to win.
She says too many dumb things.
hotep jesus
Well, here's my thing, right?
Like, initially, I thought that, okay, they're going to use Biden to get in there.
He's not able to do the job.
They're going to have him to step down, and then Kamala's going to be the first black female president.
And now I'm looking at it, and I'm like...
Are the people in charge saying that Kamala isn't even competent enough to replace the incompetent Biden?
joe rogan
I think it's more of...
There's problems.
First of all, 15 people have left her staff.
There's people that are questioning whether or not she's difficult to work with.
And when she has these breakdowns on television, when she talks about things and she's ad-libbing and it's just...
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So clunky.
hotep jesus
Impersonal.
joe rogan
Not just impersonal, but kind of insane.
The way you're talking is insane.
hotep jesus
Cynical.
joe rogan
You're talking like we're all synced up with you where we're clearly not.
You're talking like a crazy person.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
If that person was talking to you alone with that same tone and that voice, you'd be like, what the fuck are you even saying?
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
So what is that?
joe rogan
Passage of time.
I was thinking about the time.
How time just passes and then we owe it to our children to think about the passages.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Who wrote this shitty-ass speech?
You know, you can't be president with that speech.
You have to have a real speech.
There's plenty of people that can talk, but the intelligent ones don't want to be president.
It's like you should almost never be president if you want to be president.
hotep jesus
Correct.
Correct.
You're absolutely right.
Like somebody said to me, it's like, you know, just joking around, being serious, whatever it is.
I'm like, you lose all your power going into that position.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
hotep jesus
You're more powerful like outside of that.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, it's like, why would you want that job?
It sounds like a goddamn nightmare.
hotep jesus
If you go look at the pictures, all the dudes that go in, they go in with dark hair, then they come out gray hair.
joe rogan
Except Trump.
Except Trump.
Trump looks exactly the same.
It's like he's preserved in time.
Like, seven years ago, he signed a fucking deal with the devil to be the president and to never age anymore.
Can I just stay right here?
It's a good age.
I'd like to stay at this age.
I'm happy.
hotep jesus
I think some people go into the presidential position for more power, for clout, for the grift, for, you know, career aspirations.
I think Trump did it at a straight, like...
joe rogan
Spike.
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah!
hotep jesus
So, like, he's taking the job on.
He already knows what comes with it.
He's not even taking it seriously, but these guys are taking it seriously.
Like, when they run, like, oh, I'm the president of the United States.
joe rogan
They said he would just, like, drink Diet Coke and watch Fox News.
hotep jesus
See what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I mean, that's terrible, but listen, it ain't no better if Joe Biden is actually paying attention to things right now.
Joe Biden paying attention to things is not better than Trump watching Fox News and drinking Diet Coke.
It's basically the people who are pulling the strings are still pulling the strings.
Because we know Biden's not.
hotep jesus
Even if Joe Biden was paying attention, he wouldn't know what he's paying attention to.
joe rogan
Yes, that's a fact.
hotep jesus
He's not there.
joe rogan
He's not there.
And to deny that just because you're a Democrat is just bananas.
And that's what I'm talking about when I say that I'm not with a party.
I'm with ideas.
I like different ideas.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
I like ideas from the right.
I like Second Amendment rights.
I like that idea.
I like ideas.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
But I don't like parties.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
Because parties make you support that.
Parties make you go...
Everything's fine.
Everything's fine.
It's the Putin Price Hike.
unidentified
It's the Putin Price Hike.
joe rogan
That's what he keeps calling it.
The Putin Price Hike.
hotep jesus
Is that what they call it?
joe rogan
He put it in a tweet and they use it in all caps.
Putin P. Price P. Hike.
It's all in capitals.
hotep jesus
Talking about the prices, inflation, and all that?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's calling it the Putin price hike.
But they're saying it like it's a saying.
Like, hashtag Putin price hike.
hotep jesus
Well, that's what think tanks do.
They sit down, they mark it, and then they distribute it to the sheep.
joe rogan
But it's so clunky.
hotep jesus
It is.
joe rogan
Because he's saying it.
The problem is you're in the Putin price hike.
Like, what?
What are you saying grandpa have some soup?
hotep jesus
You know have some soup and just the games on grandpa have a seat don't run the world Don't threaten Russia You know fuck well that's um again If you understood the reason for the Russian Revolution, you would understand why we're going to Russia right now.
joe rogan
Do you think that it's possible for any civilization to ever be completely content and functional and healthy for any long stretch of time?
Or is it just simply the way human beings react when they're always trying to acquire more and more power?
They never are satisfied.
They always want to keep going further and further and further.
If you've got a billion, you want 10 billion.
You want 10, you want 100. You want a yacht, you want a bigger yacht.
That's just what they do.
So if that's a human instinct that's applied to politics, And into government and control of the civilization.
That's just what they're gonna do.
They're gonna constantly keep pushing for more and more power and more and more control.
It's what humans do with soccer.
They get better at playing soccer.
They get better at ping pong.
They get better at stuff.
They get better at government.
We're gonna get better.
We're gonna run these people down.
hotep jesus
It's possible.
You're gonna need one thing, though.
What?
He jabs.
joe rogan
Hijabs.
hotep jesus
Hijab.
Hijab.
joe rogan
Yeah?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's next?
hotep jesus
No, that's what you need.
Like, if you want to restore America, we have to bring the hijab back in style.
joe rogan
You mean put women in them?
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying, Brian?
Jesus Christ.
I don't know when you're trolling and when you're not.
hotep jesus
I'm always trolling and I'm always not.
Ah, perfect answer.
Like, I'm serious, but I'm not, right?
There's a point I'm trying to make.
Like, First of all, it kind of has to be homogenous.
That's why the Arabian Peninsula, they do well for themselves because it's a homogenous society.
They're all the same race.
They do very well for themselves, but they keep their women in check.
joe rogan
Keep them in check.
hotep jesus
Keep them in check.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen Andrew Schultz's bit about that?
hotep jesus
Nah.
jamie vernon
Oh, it's good.
joe rogan
You can find Andrew Schultz's bit about women in the kitchen.
unidentified
Mm.
Mm.
joe rogan
I don't want to do the bit because it's that good.
hotep jesus
Okay.
You got to get the women.
Women dictate the future.
Women, they create the progeny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Who are the kids going to imitate first?
If dad does it, they're like, oh, dad did it.
But if mom did it, it's like, okay, we can do it because mom did it.
Right?
But mom is like the first teacher.
She's the creator of morals.
She sets the moral standard for that household.
joe rogan
Here it is.
jamie vernon
There's two bits popping up, but this is the shorter one.
joe rogan
That's it.
Play it.
unidentified
Listen to this.
joe rogan
Oh, you son of a bitch.
unidentified
There's a lot of countries in the world that treat women like shit.
joe rogan
That's fucked up.
unidentified
But they got the best food.
That's undeniable, right?
The more a country is like, stay in the kitchen, the better the food comes out of the kitchen, right?
It comes out more delicious that way.
Have you ever eaten food from a country where the women are equal?
Get the fuck out of here.
hotep jesus
Get it away.
unidentified
Get away.
What is that?
jamie vernon
Equality cuisine?
unidentified
Move it.
Nobody in this room has ever said, you know what we should do for dinner tonight?
joe rogan
Canadian.
unidentified
Never been said.
Never once.
jamie vernon
Canada treats their women equally.
Their food is fucking dog shit.
It's disgusting.
hotep jesus
Canadian bacon?
joe rogan
Kill yourself if you like Canadian bacon.
hotep jesus
What is this coaster of ham?
unidentified
What am I looking at?
hotep jesus
See what I'm saying?
He's got the right idea.
It's a joke.
Like, we're joking.
joe rogan
But also accurate.
hotep jesus
Yeah, there's something to that, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, if Canadian...
Yeah, you could say that.
Nobody associates Canadian food with being delicious.
hotep jesus
Right, nobody does that, right?
I always say, look at X-Men.
X-Men is one of those things that has this metaphor.
Who's the most powerful X-Men?
It's the Phoenix.
Jean Grey.
She's the most powerful one.
And I look at women as being the most powerful one.
But what happened when she started going crazy?
joe rogan
She just wanted to destroy the world.
unidentified
She has the power to destroy the world.
joe rogan
The whole world.
hotep jesus
The whole world.
That's a metaphor for women.
You allow them to come out here, get BBLs, and have they booty out on the internet, they're going to destroy the world.
joe rogan
That's what we're seeing with Amber Heard and Johnny Depp.
hotep jesus
Another example.
joe rogan
We're seeing someone who tried to destroy a beloved movie star and make up crazy shit about him, and we're hearing it in real time in a trial, and it's wild.
We're seeing bad acting.
hotep jesus
It is bad acting.
Terrible acting.
joe rogan
When no one is writing her words and she's got to act it out and there's no rehearsal, Fuck.
hotep jesus
Is it bad?
joe rogan
It's terrible.
Oh my god.
hotep jesus
I saw a couple of clips.
joe rogan
It's so bad.
She's not even crying.
She's a crazy person.
You know when you hear someone talk for long periods of time, or even just see them sit there and stare, the way she is watching him and watching the trial is not the way a human being watches a trial that they're a part of.
hotep jesus
Really?
joe rogan
It's not.
It's the way a human being pretends.
To be watching a trial that they're a part of.
That's what it's like.
It's like, how does a human being behave when they're in a trial, when they're innocent?
I'm going to sit there like that.
It's wild.
She looks like a straight up balloon just sitting there.
And Johnny looks like Now you motherfuckers get to see.
hotep jesus
See what I've been doing.
joe rogan
This is what I've been dealing with.
This is what I've been dealing with since 2015, by the way.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Like, they got divorced.
hotep jesus
He's been going through it, too.
joe rogan
It was like six years ago.
She wrote an op-ed saying he beat her.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
And then he released, like, some audio tapes or something like that.
joe rogan
This is how bad the relationship was.
They were both recording each other.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Johnny Depp's cool as hell, man.
He's like one of my favorite actors.
joe rogan
He's, from all stories, a very nice guy.
I talked to him on the phone once.
He was a very nice guy.
It was fun to talk to.
Yeah.
He's, I think he's, you know, he's what exactly what it looks like.
hotep jesus
Okay.
He got trapped.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like that Bruce Springsteen talk.
But now I'm trapped.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got trapped.
hotep jesus
He's one of the few people that have range like John Leguizamo.
They got that range where they can go.
John Leguizamo could do the clown from Spawn and then come and do a gangster, right?
That's a good point.
joe rogan
Leguizamo's done a lot of roles, man.
hotep jesus
Yeah, and then Depp, he did Edward Scissorhands, but he could do Blow, right?
And Blow's one of my favorite movies of all time, right?
He can do both.
That's how I look at those guys.
He's in that range.
joe rogan
He's done a lot of weird movies, too.
Like, what was that Dead Man movie?
The movie where it was like a black and white movie on a train in the 1800s.
hotep jesus
Greatest.
Who's the best black actor?
The best?
Most talented.
I would say, I'm going to tell you why you think, I'm going to say it's Jamie Foxx.
joe rogan
Oh, Jamie Foxx is one of the most talented human beings that's ever lived.
hotep jesus
Bro.
joe rogan
He's got...
I don't know what it is about him where he can do so many different things so well, but he can play musical instruments.
He can sing like a Grammy-winning star.
He can act like an Oscar-winning actor.
He's a world-class stand-up comic, and he does perfect impersonations.
They're perfect.
The Dave Chappelle one is bananas.
hotep jesus
Bananas.
joe rogan
Play that, because it's so crazy.
hotep jesus
Bro.
joe rogan
He can do that for everybody, though.
hotep jesus
I'm like, yo, y'all sleeping.
Like, he did Ray, but then he did, like, what's another wild one with range?
joe rogan
That one, The Homeless Guy.
Remember The Homeless Guy?
hotep jesus
Oh, The Homeless One was a good one, too.
joe rogan
The guy was the musical prodigy.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No, he can do anything.
hotep jesus
Literally.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's weirdly talented.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, spooky.
Like, he could do so many different things so well.
So this is on his page here.
Give me some volume on this.
hotep jesus
I was incensed!
unidentified
Pow, nigga!
Thank you, Jamie Foxx.
If you're ever in trouble, Jamie Foxx will show up with a sheriff.
hotep jesus
All the other comedians just stood there.
unidentified
They're waiting on me to die.
hotep jesus
They're waiting to take over.
unidentified
I'll see you, Chris Rock.
It's never happened.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
That's incredible.
hotep jesus
The body movements, everything.
That's incredible.
joe rogan
And he really was there.
He really was there.
He really did jump on that dude.
Jamie Foxx was one of the people that jumped on that dude when the shit went down that night.
unidentified
Did he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Look at that picture.
That's hilarious.
unidentified
Let me see that again.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jamie Foxx is going to play Mike Tyson in a movie.
hotep jesus
I heard that.
jamie vernon
It's going to be a TV show, apparently.
joe rogan
Oh, what is it for?
jamie vernon
It hasn't been announced.
I just looked this up the other day.
It's now down to an extended series, so like three to six, seven episodes.
joe rogan
That's better.
hotep jesus
That is better.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you don't want to jam the life of Mike Tyson into a two-hour movie.
hotep jesus
I love series.
I think that's a much better way for the film industry right now.
joe rogan
That's going to be interesting.
I bet Jamie will nail it.
As far as his mannerisms and everything, it'll freak you out.
You'll probably feel like you're around Mike Tyson.
hotep jesus
You're going to forget it's Jamie.
I forgot it was Ray.
joe rogan
I wonder how big he's gonna get.
hotep jesus
Who?
joe rogan
Jamie.
To play Tyson.
You gotta get big.
hotep jesus
Oh, to bulk up?
joe rogan
Or they can just do CGI. Because he's big already.
Like, Jamie's built.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Tyson's a tank of a human.
It's like a different kind of build.
Jamie's built like an athlete.
Mike Tyson is built like Mike Tyson.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
You know, it's just...
Like, are you playing Mike Tyson in his prime?
Like, bro, you gotta be jacked.
You know, Mike Tyson was a tank.
Just a tank.
It's not like a regular athlete body.
hotep jesus
It's not.
Mike Tyson is one of the most interesting human beings to ever live on this planet.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
hotep jesus
I love Mike Tyson.
I've always been a Mike Tyson fan, man.
joe rogan
If you ever get a chance to talk to him, he's a fascinating guy to talk to, and he knows so much about, like, conquerors in history.
Talk to him about, like, Alexander the Great, and Temujin, who's Genghis Khan, and he knows all that shit.
He talks to you, but he gets all fired up, his eyes light up.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I'd love to have a history conversation with him, man.
He just seems like...
You know, my thing is, I don't like normal people.
You know what I mean?
Like, normal is almost like mentally neutered.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
You know what I mean?
Right.
Like, if you're not, like, a little off, like, I always tell people, like, yo, why are you so special?
I'm like, because I'm a little retarded.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I'm a little stupid.
Like, I'm going to say something I probably shouldn't say, right?
Right.
joe rogan
But that's why people like you too.
Right.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's also part of the fun.
hotep jesus
Correct.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
But it's like Tyson, I feel, is like the type of person who is like, I'm going to be me.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
And it's like in a society, a time where nobody wants to be themselves.
Yes.
So whoever wants to be themselves, I'm like...
Ah, Jim.
joe rogan
Remember when Charlie Sheen started talking about banging hookers and doing blow?
And everybody's like, yes!
They loved him.
All of a sudden, he was talking about how much coke he did.
And he's talking about how I go through seven, eight ounces a night.
And everybody's like, what the fuck did you just say?
And he was talking about prostitutes, and he was talking about how he has tiger blood, and everybody was like, this guy's out of his fucking mind.
But then, everybody was in love with him.
Everybody was happy.
I think that's one of the things that instigated Donald Trump running for president the way he did.
I think he realized, you know what?
If you just go for it, just fucking down the middle, just go for it, just keep running, enough people are going to go with you.
hotep jesus
That's the key to our freedom!
That's the key to our freedom, Joe.
People are afraid to do that, right?
They think that if I say this, they're going to hold me back.
I'm going to have my growth stunted.
unidentified
But the exact opposite is true.
hotep jesus
Breaking out of that?
It's going to bring you massive success.
Being yourself is going to bring you massive success.
As opposed to, okay, so Ebony Magazine will have me on.
Who cares?
God blessed us with Joe Rogan.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's always a way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
You know what I'm saying?
There's always a way.
joe rogan
There's going to be new ways.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
The ways that we're dealing with now are new in comparison to the ways people before dealt with it.
We have challenges now that are unprecedented.
Information challenges, identity challenges.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an interesting time, man.
hotep jesus
It really is.
We just have access to each other.
We have too much access to each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's good, too.
hotep jesus
Absolutely.
joe rogan
It's like the bullshit is getting exposed, the life is getting...
You get more of an understanding of life by the more versions of it you see that are honest, and you get a lot of versions of it now.
Even accidental, like the Will Smith thing.
You get to see, like, oh, wow, movie stars, their life kind of sucks sometimes.
And then you see, like, the Johnny Depp Amber Heard thing, and you're like, oh, fucking that ain't fun.
I thought being Johnny Depp would be a dream.
hotep jesus
Turns out it's hell.
joe rogan
The guy was living in hell.
hotep jesus
You never know.
Money don't buy you happiness, man.
It just doesn't make you happy.
joe rogan
Well, it can help.
It can help.
hotep jesus
But you gotta be happy.
joe rogan
His situation is not gonna be helped by money.
There's a certain amount of that that you're not gonna fix with anything.
That behavior is gonna be...
Those two together...
hotep jesus
But there's certain things you need to do in life To be happy, right?
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
You're a person who has money.
But why is Joe Rogan happy?
And I'm going to tell you why Joe Rogan's happy.
Joe Rogan's happy because he works out.
joe rogan
That helps.
hotep jesus
That is everything.
What do you mean that helps?
unidentified
That's everything.
joe rogan
It definitely helps.
hotep jesus
That's everything.
Having a fit body is everything.
The things that it does for your brain.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure it helps.
hotep jesus
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
I think you have to have a good mindset too.
I think meditation.
I think there's a few things that have to line up together.
And when I say meditation, I don't really meditate that much.
I do sometimes before shows, but I do in the sauna.
I go in the sauna, just me.
I just quiet and I just sit in that fucking sauna.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I think that having rituals, things where you're keeping assessment of what you're doing and also being on a good track.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of shit that has to line up for you to be happy.
hotep jesus
Yes.
But I think that's the core of it, right?
Like, okay, you need money so you can survive and enjoy your life.
joe rogan
Until Bitcoin goes live and that's the only currency.
Bitcoin becomes the only currency.
hotep jesus
We're fucked.
Exactly.
And then like health, right?
Like working out.
And then having like that, like you said, these rituals, right?
Like we talk about that, like having these rituals.
Like what are these rituals?
I have my rituals.
Like every day...
I've got to practice my Spanish.
I've got to do my push-ups.
And I've got to write my daily email newsletter.
It's just what I have to do.
If I don't do that, I fall apart as a human being.
joe rogan
How long have you been doing the Spanish part?
hotep jesus
About a year.
joe rogan
So you just decided that's a new discipline and you're going to learn Spanish?
hotep jesus
Well, I looked at the immigration rates and thought it was a guy.
joe rogan
In case they're playing something outside your door, you'll know.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I'm like, okay, something's about to go down.
Right?
Yeah.
But no, you know, I think it's just, it's the second most popular language here in America, right?
And I just think, I feel like it's disrespectful to not know it.
Like, we're all human beings on the planet.
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
And I'm going to allow a language to stop me from having a connection with this human being?
joe rogan
How many hours a day do you study it?
hotep jesus
About 20 minutes.
20-25 minutes.
joe rogan
So you just give yourself a little dose every day?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
It's about 200 XP on the Duolingo app.
joe rogan
How long does it take for one to become fluent with 20 minutes a day?
hotep jesus
At this rate, I'm looking at probably three years, because I'm only doing 33 minutes.
joe rogan
That's smart, though, because it's not like you're moving to Mexico tomorrow.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
Like, if you could just space it out, that way you get more accustomed to it, and you're not killing your daily schedule.
hotep jesus
Right, right.
And then I can actually communicate with people.
Like, when I went to Miami, the maid was knocking on my door, and I'm like, yo, come back later.
And she's like, no ingles.
And I said, doce.
And she said, oh, okay.
Dose means 12 in Spanish.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
hotep jesus
So she knew to come back at 12, right?
So like these little just minor survival pieces of language, right?
Being able to order something off the menu, right?
joe rogan
The good thing about Spanish, too, is it uses the same language in terms of alphabet, rather.
Yes.
Learning Chinese must be crazy.
hotep jesus
My son tried to learn Japanese, and he was pissed off.
joe rogan
Looks hard, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
He was like, he wanted to learn the alphabet.
But the app doesn't teach you the alphabet, it just teaches you sounds.
joe rogan
Oh, that's not good enough.
hotep jesus
Not for him.
He wants to learn the alphabet, so he stopped doing it on the app.
joe rogan
Could you imagine, though, if you went somewhere and you couldn't read it, but you could say it?
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But when you look at, like, kanji, and you look at, you know, like...
Koreans have one way of writing, and then Japanese have another way, and Chinese have another way, and you're like...
And then Russia's got a bunch of wacky fake letters in there, too.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
Learning how to write in another language like Chinese must be bananas.
hotep jesus
It's a goal of mine, though.
At some point, I'm going to do...
joe rogan
We might have to.
I might come with a social credit app.
hotep jesus
Exactly.
Another necessity.
But I think after Spanish, I'll learn an African language.
joe rogan
Yeah, like which one?
hotep jesus
I don't know.
I got to ask an African.
I was looking at Swahili because that's like the predominant one in South Africa and I might play around down there.
But I'm looking at like, maybe I want to learn how to talk to Nigerians, you know?
I don't know who I want to talk to yet.
And that's what this comes down to.
Like, what human being on this planet do you want to connect with and drop that language barrier, right?
Because that's what it comes down to is human beings just have to connect.
Like, we got to leave with love.
joe rogan
Have you ever heard of those, there's a thing, I think it's the Google Air Buds, and you put them in and you can listen to a translation in real time.
So you could speak to me in Swahili, and it would translate to me in English in real time.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I heard about that text.
joe rogan
Is that good?
Is it any good?
hotep jesus
I don't know how good it is.
If it's coming off of Google Translate, it's probably getting a job done, it's probably not giving you...
Great translations.
joe rogan
It's probably just selling your data.
It's a trick to sell your data.
hotep jesus
They're actually recording your voice.
unidentified
Put those fucking things on, bitch.
joe rogan
Put those things on and talk to you.
Where are you?
Oh, look at you walking through China.
I know where you are, bitch.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I'm following you.
unidentified
Google Pixel Buds.
Your Pixel Buds phone and the Google or press and launch conversation mode on the Translate app.
When you're ready to speak to someone in another language, press and hold the earbud and speak in your native language.
Good afternoon.
What are the menu specials today?
Tap the microphone under the language you'd like translated when they're ready to respond.
When the person responds, the translated message will play directly into your pixel buds.
jamie vernon
Might work.
hotep jesus
El camarero.
joe rogan
But what if that dude's got like some heavy flare to his accent, you know?
hotep jesus
That's what I'm saying.
Like, it's only going to take you so far.
joe rogan
Right.
Cuban Spanish.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
They talk fast and they roll everything together.
hotep jesus
Right, right.
So that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Like, you kind of want to learn the actual language.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was thinking that the other day when I was listening to one of my daughters talk.
She's a teenager.
She talks real fast.
Dogs talk like this.
They talk and all the words go together.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And I'm like, what are you saying?
Like, the dog ate your hat.
Oh, the dog ate my hat.
Okay.
The dog ate your hat.
Stupid dogs, stupid dogs, dogs, oh my god, see my new TikTok?
You know, it's like they talk like everything flies into it.
Like, if you were a person who didn't understand English, like, good luck translating that.
hotep jesus
Or imagine if you're someone who just learned English, right?
And you're not still, like, American fluent.
Because you can learn English, but that don't mean you're American fluent, because American fluent means you can understand your daughter.
So she talks, and if she said it slow, you could pick it up.
joe rogan
They talk so fast.
Teenage girls, they just start talking to each other, and they're bouncing around talking...
55 miles an hour, you're like, these guys talk so fast.
But if you didn't know English, you'd have no idea what those words were.
You'd be like, I don't know what you're saying.
hotep jesus
You wouldn't even know that you're speaking English.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd be baffled.
You'd be baffled if you try to throw that shit through Google Translate or something.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
I think eventually that's going to be a feature of, like, whatever the next stage of connection to electronics is, is going to be a universal language.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
You know Jamie talked about this once and he was saying that aren't emojis kind of like hieroglyphs mm-hmm And I never I've never stopped thinking about that statement because I was like that's kind of what could be the future if there was a visual language that represented all sorts of different things and you see it so you would look at me and you would show me things and I would see what you were doing and I would show you things and we would be able to communicate Didn't matter what part of the world you're from So are
hotep jesus
you saying that our alphabet is inferior to this new concept you're talking about?
joe rogan
What I'm saying is if we all agreed upon a universal language that was easily adoptable because we're all using the same sort of technology, some sort of embedded technology, And that technology allows people to have a much larger bandwidth in terms of access to information, the way you distribute it, you'd be able to pick up that language very quickly.
And everybody would be able to pick it up quickly.
So we would have a new language.
So instead of me speaking English and you speaking Spanish, instead of that where there's all this fucking confusion in sign language, instead we're reading each other's minds with images.
And it's a better language, more sophisticated, more complex, and more accurate.
hotep jesus
So it is more sophisticated than our current communication system.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think, look, the language that we have, English is a beautiful language.
It's got a lot of crazy ability to it.
It's fascinating, colorful, and flavorful, the way we can put things together.
But ultimately...
hotep jesus
It's a German language, too.
joe rogan
Ultimately, it's noises you make that convey intent.
Wouldn't it be better if you could just see the intent?
Wouldn't it be better if everybody saw exactly what everybody was thinking and feeling?
hotep jesus
So then what would be the point of your vocal cords now?
joe rogan
They would probably go away like aliens.
I think we are going to become like aliens.
I think that's what all this gender stuff is about.
I think we're like blurring the lines of genders and eventually you're gonna get to a point where the implant tells you, you don't need a penis or a vagina.
That's nonsense.
That's just fucking you up.
It's these crazy animal genetics that we have.
Our connection to lower primates.
What we need to be is the next level.
Next level is genderless with a big giant head.
You don't need a mouth because you don't talk anymore.
Because you talk through this application that allows you to send visual images of what you're thinking of.
And also, we never have to worry about people lying again.
Because you can read their fucking minds.
hotep jesus
But then you have no privacy now.
joe rogan
No one has privacy either, though.
Not even the government.
That's the thing.
They can't even lie to you.
So all these fucking shitty people like Nancy Pelosi and all these scumbags that have been stealing money forever, they can't even do that anymore because everyone's going to be able to see what they're doing.
They can't ever say, you can't ever say, We're doing this because we care about the middle class.
No, you can see.
No, you're doing this because BlackRock wants you to do this, and Pfizer's told you to do that, and you have all these contracts that are dependent upon you doing this, and you guys have had meetings.
You've talked about this.
Oh, and look over there.
Your husband's investing in all these firms that are about to blow the fuck up.
How crazy!
You would see that.
If there was a thing that you could see, everything, first of all, it would kill comedy.
Comedy would be dead.
There'd be no more stand-up.
It would kill my very business.
Because you couldn't play words games, because comedy's words games.
It's like when Chappelle says something hilarious, he's using his words in a funny way.
Yes.
hotep jesus
Even the vocabulary he picks is interesting.
joe rogan
The pauses.
If we take away the sound of language, and it's just in the mind.
Maybe it'll be a new form of stand-up that exists with emojis.
Or with whatever this visual language is.
This new complex language.
It might not even be visual.
It might be like sounds or some sort of a frequency that conveys intent.
Like you would be able to convey to me that you're hungry.
And I go, oh good.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
And I would convey to you, you know, oh good, I know where some good restaurants are.
And you would just like look at me and I'd go, hmm.
b-real
I would know what you meant.
joe rogan
It just goes right there.
Like, clearly you're hungry, and I'm like, what kind of food do you want?
Let's go, we could try this spot, and you could give me an image of like pizza or something.
hotep jesus
So this is telepathy.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
Elon said, when I talked to him about this, you're going to be able to talk without words.
hotep jesus
Joe, I have bad news for you.
joe rogan
What?
hotep jesus
We can already do that.
joe rogan
How do we do that?
hotep jesus
We don't need technology.
joe rogan
We don't?
hotep jesus
No.
Telepathy is possible.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
Cut the fuck out of here.
hotep jesus
Telepathy is possible.
joe rogan
What are you taking to get telepathy?
hotep jesus
Damn, I never thought about that.
unidentified
You take mushrooms and get some telepathy.
joe rogan
You do!
Do you know that when they first started examining ayahuasca, one of the ingredients they called telepathine.
Because it was inducing these shared states of telepathy, where people would do it together, and they would all have this very, very similar experience, and they would interact with each other in this experience.
Then they found out that the...
unidentified
Sorry about this.
joe rogan
Then they found out that the actual compound had already been named.
It was called Harmin.
So because of the rules of scientific nomenclature, they had to stick with the original name Harmin.
But they wanted to call it telepathine.
Because this shared experience that they had as scientists defied rational explanation.
hotep jesus
Exactly.
And that goes back to what I was saying before about money, right?
Like, if we rose to that state...
We wouldn't need money.
joe rogan
Well maybe that's what happens next.
Maybe that's like, I mean think about all this too, right?
We're talking about like gender going away.
We're talking about the ability to communicate with your mouth going away.
Maybe like that moves us into a place where we no longer worry about material possessions anymore and we just sustain the entire race because we've elevated ourselves past this competitive lower primate into this higher primate who speaks and moves telepathically.
And we don't even need muscles anymore because we're fucking controlling shit with our minds.
So we have these little spindly bodies.
hotep jesus
Well, you won't own anything because you won't own anything.
unidentified
You won't own anything and you'll be happier.
Exactly.
joe rogan
You'll be happier.
unidentified
You own nothing and you'll be happy.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
Lenin wanted suffering, man.
He wanted, you know, it's funny, like, Lenin says, yeah, you know, the star is mismanaging the country, and then there's going to be, we're going to take away the land and give it to the poor, and then the first thing they do is outlaw the ability to own land.
Like, that's where we're going.
joe rogan
You know, I want to find out what this is, but I read something briefly and I didn't get into the article, but they were saying that they were trying to pass a bill that would outlaw you growing your own food in Australia.
hotep jesus
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Did you read that?
hotep jesus
Nah.
joe rogan
It was a part of Australia, I think it was New South Wales, someone was trying to pass a law That won't allow you to grow your own food.
And they were saying, well, you could grow your own food, and what is the diseases from your food?
It infects the population, kills us all.
We can have that.
hotep jesus
Oh, they pulled that card.
joe rogan
I want to know what their justification was, but I'm pretty sure it had to do with agricultural contamination.
You could justify it if you're a real piece of shit.
You could say, well, you know, most pandemics have come from agriculture.
Animal agriculture.
We can't have unchecked pig ownership.
That's not fair.
We can if you're growing vegetables.
What if your vegetables have ergot in them and diseases?
Fucking creeps, man.
These fucking creeps, they got a good grip on people during the pandemic.
They locked everybody down in Australia.
And then you know what?
We've got to stop these motherfuckers from rolling their own food.
Because that's how you fucking smoke out an anti-vaxxer.
You can't even go to the grocery store anymore and you can't grow your food.
hotep jesus
No, dependent.
unidentified
Take that shot, bitch!
joe rogan
Do you find anything?
hotep jesus
You are now dependent upon the state.
joe rogan
Passes, bill.
jamie vernon
I know what to look for.
Nothing is coming up.
The closest thing I could find was something like this.
joe rogan
New food?
No, it's not New Zealand.
It's in Australia.
jamie vernon
I know, but this is close.
hotep jesus
New Zealand is right around the corner.
jamie vernon
Could have.
joe rogan
It's got to be a real thing.
It seems too good to not be.
hotep jesus
It's obviously...
jamie vernon
Tyson outlawed growing food in Australia and not a single thing comes up.
joe rogan
Hold on.
jamie vernon
Except for that, which was a false thing.
joe rogan
Growing your own food.
hotep jesus
They want us completely dependent.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't find it either.
hotep jesus
Damn it!
joe rogan
Better not be fake.
It might be fake.
hotep jesus
But even if it's fake, right?
The fake is usually the warning.
joe rogan
Well, I think the fake is oftentimes these Russian trolls.
Do you know they found that 19 out of 20 of the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook, 19 of them, were Russian troll farms.
hotep jesus
Really?
What the fuck?
Troll farms?
joe rogan
That means they're run by Russian troll farms where they'll take up positions that are completely ridiculous, and they'll try to get people riled up.
They're like, you know, we have to stop these abortions from happening, and the only way to do it is to kill abortion doctors.
And then someone will chime in, and it's also a Russian troll.
That's not fair.
That's against God's will.
What we should do is punish them.
Come to their house and normalize.
Like attacking, going to someone's house and attacking.
hotep jesus
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
And they can do that with anything.
They can do it with politics.
They scheduled a fucking meeting of a Texas separatist group across the street from a meeting of a Muslim society.
So they got them right across the street from each other hoping that they would talk shit to each other.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And this is like, they have thousands of cell phones all connected.
Have you ever seen what they look like?
hotep jesus
Yeah, I've seen it, yeah.
joe rogan
It's wild, man.
hotep jesus
I used to run a bar farm.
joe rogan
Did you really?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
What'd you do?
hotep jesus
Well, I was a music artist, and I was trying to get my stuff out there.
So basically what I did was I bought this piece of software.
Shout out to Jersey Demick.
He showed it to me.
It was a piece of software, and basically what I did was I bought 75 Twitter accounts, right?
And this was on another Twitter account.
And basically what the Twitter accounts did were they would scrape other accounts.
So let's say I would say I'll scrape all of the Kardashian sisters tweets and then I bought a whole bunch of profile pics that were hot chicks.
joe rogan
What do you mean by scrape them?
hotep jesus
Scrape them like basically like take their tweets and add them to a database.
joe rogan
Okay.
hotep jesus
And then these bots would tweet but it's just really old tweets from the Kardashian sisters or whoever other influencers I scraped.
joe rogan
And would they tweet them just to gather followers?
hotep jesus
Correct.
So they would follow They would do follow for follow based upon whatever accounts I would scrape.
And I'd grow the 75 bot accounts, right?
But what I wanted them to retweet me, they would retweet me.
So then I would put out a tweet, and then I would say, bots, retweet me.
And then I'd get automatically 75 retweets, and then all those followers of those accounts.
And then I was creating...
This is stuff we was doing back in the day.
But that was just with software.
It wasn't like a whole farm, per se.
We was just playing with software.
joe rogan
What they're trying to do is to get people arguing with each other.
And their idea is this long-term strategy.
hotep jesus
So what I'm saying is that's the type of software I was using.
It was possible.
I could have organized a BLM You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yes.
hotep jesus
Team of sorts and organized things, right?
And it looked like individual accounts, da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's wild.
hotep jesus
It is wild.
joe rogan
I guess it makes sense.
I wonder if there's ever going to be a time where they can see who's a bot for sure and stop all that from happening.
Because if you...
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah, there are certain definitely things you can see with like bot activity.
Right.
But they just get better.
joe rogan
But what if someone wasn't...
Well, one thing you could do though is IPs.
You could see their IP address unless you did it through a virtual private network.
But if you did it through a virtual private network, couldn't you like stop people from using the service if they were going through a VPN? Yeah.
Because what I'm saying is you could conceivably make the same tweet in a hundred different accounts.
You would just have to log off, log back in, log off, log back in.
hotep jesus
Yeah, you would have a piece of software that would do it for you.
joe rogan
Right, but if they outlawed that, if they figured out a way to stop that, you could do it manually.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
And so they wouldn't even know that you were basically a human bot.
hotep jesus
Here's the thing.
They really...
They don't mind bot activity.
What they don't like is malicious bot activity, right?
joe rogan
Right.
hotep jesus
So, like, bot activity, that pisses their users off.
Right.
But if you have bot activity that creates engagement for their platform and makes people happy, they're like, all right, well, we're not going to shut you down.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
You know what's the number one indication for me that someone's a bot?
American flag in their logo.
Like, right next to their name, they got the American flag.
hotep jesus
American flag.
joe rogan
Like maybe a couple numbers.
hotep jesus
Definitely numbers.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ricky 5701 American flag.
And then maybe a baseball bat or something like that.
It's like, come on, man.
You ain't a real person.
I think there's a lot of patriots that absolutely do put the American flag proudly next to their name.
Don't get me wrong.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
But I'm saying there's a lot of bots that put that American flag in their name and they say crazy right wing nonsense.
hotep jesus
I do believe that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I do believe a lot of the...
I've seen news articles select accounts that say wild stuff.
And I'm like, yo, that's a bot.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
hotep jesus
You're right.
joe rogan
You're absolutely right.
100%.
I'm not denying people's patriotism.
I have a fucking American flag right there on the wall.
hotep jesus
Right, right.
joe rogan
That's not that.
It's just that I see that and I go, I see what you're doing.
And you're saying wild, crazy shit because it makes it look like Republicans are saying wild, crazy shit.
You can change the tone of the entire party by just having a few million completely insane people that aren't even really people.
It just accounts.
hotep jesus
I'll be telling people, I'm like, yo, um...
You know you're arguing with bots, right?
I remember seeing somebody argue with a bot in my mentions.
I'm like, bro, that's a bot.
joe rogan
For sure.
hotep jesus
And then you can break them.
Like, if you say something, like, off, like, you know.
joe rogan
Oh, you could fuck the bot up?
hotep jesus
Yeah, you could, like, fuck the bot up.
joe rogan
Like, I was thinking to suck my own dick.
Yes or no?
Right.
hotep jesus
Some shit like that.
joe rogan
Your bot's like, what the fuck?
hotep jesus
And the bot would respond like, Trump's bad.
joe rogan
Infamous Russian troll appears to be source of anti-Ukraine propaganda.
Oh, wow.
Is this new?
jamie vernon
There's an article from March.
joe rogan
Experts say a recent wave of pro-Putin disinformation is consistent with the work of Russia's internet research agency, a network of paid trolls who attempted to influence the 2016 presidential election.
They always say that, like try to influence the presidential election.
Why don't you relax on that?
Because it seems like they're both in bed with them.
It seems like, for sure, both of them had communications with people from that part of the world.
Both of them.
jamie vernon
I was looking up American troll farms.
joe rogan
Oh, we have them too?
I hope we have the best ones.
jamie vernon
Well, you wouldn't assume we would?
joe rogan
I would assume we have the best ones.
The best ones!
Ours are tremendous, tremendous troll farms.
Of course we should.
Listen, man, if I was the president, I would 100% hire some of the funniest people on Reddit to become a troll for the government.
I'd be like, boys, you guys are doing the Lord's work out here.
It's hilarious.
But what I'd like you to do is get paid for this.
jamie vernon
That's what happened.
joe rogan
How about?
What?
It's real?
Turning point action enlist teenagers in Troll Farm.
Oh my god.
See, I'm so far behind.
This was two years ago.
So this is a pro-Trump thing.
But I'm not even saying pro-Trump.
I would just say pro-American.
If we would all agree.
Hey, hey, hey.
Let's relax.
Every four years we'll figure out who's running things temporarily.
But overall, don't we want the good of America first?
Right?
We do.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Good.
So this is just going to be independent.
It's going to be the American troll agency.
It's the new ATF. And we're just going to...
We're going to fucking...
We're going to win this troll war.
You think the Russians are funnier than the Americans?
Get the fuck out of here, bitch.
We need better memes.
We need better memes.
We need to be funny.
And we need to attack, attack, attack.
unidentified
Meme wars.
joe rogan
Yeah, meme wars.
And just go after them and talk shit about their government, talk shit about organized rebellions.
Just constantly.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
I like that.
joe rogan
I think it could work.
hotep jesus
Why wouldn't we?
unidentified
It's a new form of propaganda.
They're doing it.
joe rogan
They're fucking doing it.
What are we going to do?
Just let them hit us?
hotep jesus
They're absolutely doing it.
joe rogan
Fuck out of here.
We got to fight back.
hotep jesus
They're absolutely doing it.
joe rogan
We got to fight back.
I think we fight back.
I think we fight back with the American Troll Agency.
hotep jesus
The American Troll Agency.
I'm down.
Right?
unidentified
I'm down.
joe rogan
Think of how many clever kids you have out there smoking bongs in their college dorms, saying hilarious shit.
If you could hire them to say hilarious shit for the government and just imagine if you get out of work, what do you do?
Well, I work in propaganda.
I just talk shit about Russia all day online.
hotep jesus
Make memes.
jamie vernon
They make more money for themselves, though, just making their own propaganda.
joe rogan
Yeah, but just to get them going.
jamie vernon
No, that's what I'm saying.
They already know that the government can't pay them more to do that job for them than they're already doing for themselves.
joe rogan
Who, like kids?
unidentified
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Yeah, they're making so much money.
joe rogan
Doing what?
Like twitching and shit?
jamie vernon
No, just like causing controversy to get Instagram likes and YouTube views.
joe rogan
Right, right.
But if it was a job straight out of high school, for sure you would get a population of people that would take to that job.
hotep jesus
Yeah, they would.
joe rogan
I'm not saying that a lot of more independent people wouldn't start their own shit.
jamie vernon
That's sort of what I'm saying, though.
If I was a 15-year-old with 15 friends and we had a band and all that, we would be doing all of this shit, making our band famous on YouTube, making a thousand fake accounts.
We would be causing controversy just because it's fun.
It's essentially like prank calling in the 80s and 90s.
It's like, what do you do now?
You fuck with people online.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
And it's definitely happening.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
For free or for money.
hotep jesus
That's what we do at Men of Order.
That's Jeff B. Kelly with the meme.
It's meme warfare with Men of Order.
joe rogan
So when you do that, how do you create a meme?
Do you create a meme because you see Biden do some stupid shit with his hand out?
Or he's trying to shake someone's hand that's not even there?
You go, we got one there.
And then start with that image.
hotep jesus
Well, we're more like masculinity.
So we show this and that.
Right?
Like, people who read Men of Order and people who don't read Men of Order.
joe rogan
Oh, okay, okay.
hotep jesus
You know what I mean?
So you have, like, your, you know, your pussy hat, whatever, whatever.
And then, you know, the Giga Chat.
Like, you know, we got a Joe Rogan section on our site.
joe rogan
No, I didn't know that.
hotep jesus
Yeah, we provide summaries of your episodes on there.
joe rogan
No shit?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
hotep jesus
Yeah, we do summaries so people can know, like, hey, you know, what was covered in this and jump right to the timestamp and da-da-da-da.
joe rogan
Oh, well, thank you.
That's cool.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an awesome time for stuff online because a guy like you and the way, you know, you handle stuff online, very entertaining, but you wouldn't have a spot in mainstream media if you were around 20 years ago.
Like, where would they put you?
You know?
Like, you exist in this, like you say, trolling and not trolling at the same time state.
You got a lot of really good points.
You're funny.
And people would be like, he's too radical.
He says crazy shit.
He says, like, eugenics is good and he's happy when old people die.
unidentified
It's dark stuff.
joe rogan
He said he can't wait for Trump to run again.
Like, this guy's not for us.
You know what I'm saying?
You exist in this, but it's like what you were talking about even with Charlie Sheen.
Be yourself.
The reason why people like Charlie Sheen is like, that's the real Charlie Sheen.
I knew you were in there.
I knew you were in there somewhere.
You were on that show and you're pretending to be two and a half men, everybody having a good time, but really what you're doing is blow and you're banging prostitutes.
hotep jesus
But I mean, look at the numbers your show does, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
hotep jesus
Why does your show do better numbers than the so-called mainstream?
Because there are a whole bunch of people missed that haven't been represented.
joe rogan
Yeah, normal people.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Correct.
And you provide...
So when you look at your numbers, it's a reflection of how many people are so sick of what's going on over here in some of these other outlets.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they're sick of it being spoon-fed to them.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
By non-real people.
hotep jesus
By non-real people, right.
joe rogan
Talking heads.
hotep jesus
Right.
So when I look at your numbers, I'm looking and I'm very optimistic for people.
I'm like...
There's a lot of people out here who can be on the organic side of the bifurcation.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, when it comes to distribution of information, everything that I'm doing, everybody can do.
The only thing that's different between me and other people doing this is that I have more access to guests and I have more publicity, so there's more knowledge of what I do.
But anybody can break stuff down.
hotep jesus
Yes, but we can now put a number to how many people out there are unlocked or semi-unlocked.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
hotep jesus
And we can say, we can look and say, okay, here's a number of Joe Rogan's, this is the amount of people that are part of the fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that's not even all the people, because it keeps growing, and people are realizing that whether someone's right or wrong is very important, but what's most important is whether or not they're honest, because you can be wrong and then say, hey, I was wrong about that, and people go, okay, well, at least I know when Brian fucks up, he's going to tell me that he was wrong about that.
That's a giant factor that is non-existent in mainstream news.
It's non-existent.
And they also don't admit that they're engaging in propaganda, paid-for propaganda.
We know it.
We know who's paying for them.
We see the advertisers.
We know what percentage of it is pharmaceutical companies.
It's fucking crazy numbers, crazy money.
We know where it's coming from.
We know what they're allowed to say and not allowed to say.
So you're never going to fully open up with that person.
hotep jesus
No.
joe rogan
Charlie Sheen's talking about doing Blow.
And you're like, I like it.
He's him.
That's him.
hotep jesus
That reminded me of the 90s, you know?
Like, 90s programming.
None of that stuff can even come out now, right?
joe rogan
None of it.
hotep jesus
Like, they tried to come out with the boondocks and they were like, nope, can't do it.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, that was like one of the last shows.
The only show that's allowed to push the boundaries is South Park.
hotep jesus
How are they still getting away with this?
Yo, I saw a clip the other day from the episode.
I'm like, these people are still around?
And I saw the clip and I'm like...
joe rogan
They go hard.
They are the hardest fucking show that's ever existed and they still go hard.
hotep jesus
I support it.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
hotep jesus
I support it.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
They have a beautiful loophole is that they're cartoons and they're not even good cartoons.
hotep jesus
They're shitty.
joe rogan
They look terrible.
hotep jesus
And they're kids.
joe rogan
They're kids.
Yeah.
They're kids.
They're not real.
They're clearly not real.
You don't feel any attachment to them.
Canadians, their heads pop off.
Half their head bounces up and down when they talk when they're Canadian.
I mean, come on, man.
It's one of the greatest shows the world's ever known.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
But the biggest thing, you know, about what you mentioned is the fact that there is an outlet for the voice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Like, prior to, like, you know, Michael Malice, Alice Jones, and you, I don't exist.
Like if it's not for y'all, y'all my, y'all my, it's like you, Tim Cass, Michael Malice, and Alex Jones are my new Mount Rushmore.
joe rogan
And I don't find out about you if it's not for Twitter.
That's how I find out about you.
hotep jesus
Okay.
joe rogan
So I found out about you from Twitter, and I start reading your stuff, and I start saying, this fucking dude's smart, funny, you say funny shit, I watch some of your videos.
Like when I first reached out to you.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
It was like, that's the beautiful thing about like a legitimate Network.
When I mean a network, I don't mean like some contract and a company with employees.
I mean people connected to each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I find someone who's cool and interesting, I bring them on.
I find someone who's got a funny viewpoint, I bring them on.
I find a scientist that has a, you know, some strange experiment they're running, I bring them on.
Some dude is a world explorer, come on, tell me what's up.
I like to climb with no ropes.
Get in here, bitch.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, let's have a seat.
Yeah.
hotep jesus
Like, nobody else is gonna do that.
Like I was in Miami.
joe rogan
But you can.
But everybody can.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
The thing about it is, and this is important.
It's important.
I'm not doing anything unusual.
I'm just talking to people.
hotep jesus
But you're doing the Lord's work.
I was at the Bitcoin conference in Miami.
I'm walking in.
I had a whale pass.
The chick stops me.
She goes, who are you?
She's just asking because she saw me at the whale pass.
So I tell her my name.
She's like, I never heard of you before.
So I go, I was on Joe Rogan.
unidentified
Oh, really?
hotep jesus
Dude, she pulls out her phone and starts taking a picture of me.
She's like, I gotta get a picture.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
hotep jesus
But prior to, I'm nobody.
But I say I was on Joe Rogan.
She's like, I gotta get a picture with this guy.
joe rogan
Wow.
hotep jesus
I'm like...
joe rogan
That's wild.
hotep jesus
So who am I without Joe Rogan?
I don't exist!
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't exist without people like you.
Because the part of the thing that makes the podcast interesting is that I bring people like you on.
And I just bring all kinds of fun people and have cool conversations.
unidentified
It's a symbiotic relationship.
joe rogan
I'm not just talking to myself.
I'm not talking to the abyss.
But what I'm saying about what I'm doing is not hard to do.
I really want people to know that.
hotep jesus
It is hard.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I'm telling you, man.
Anybody can do it.
hotep jesus
You hypnotize people before we walk in here.
unidentified
Nah!
joe rogan
I get cussed a motto.
I think it's a thing that will happen much more often now.
And people will see that there's a real benefit in just being yourself and being honest.
And you're on a path, right?
If you go back and listen to the early podcasts, they sucked.
They were fucking terrible.
I had to get good at it.
You're on a path.
It's like everything else.
But it's a thing that almost everybody does.
They talk to people.
You just gotta get better at talking to people.
But the way to get better is to do it.
Don't worry about the first ones sucking.
My first ones were fucking terrible.
So my thought to everybody is like, you can find your voice in this sort of a medium.
Anybody can do it.
You don't need a gatekeeper anymore.
hotep jesus
Right.
There is no gatekeeper.
joe rogan
Right, which is how I found out about you.
I found out about Jordan Peterson.
It's how I found out about a million fucking people that I interview, a million authors that I talk to and different comedians that I find out about.
I find them out online.
It's just like a natural network.
Someone's funny and I see someone says to me, I checked out this sketch.
I'm like, oh shit, that's hilarious.
And then I reach out.
I'm like, hey, what's up?
And that's the beautiful thing about today.
You don't need a bunch of other people to tell you you can do something.
You can just do it.
You can just do it.
hotep jesus
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, you're not going to do it like I do.
You're going to do it like you do.
And you'll get better at doing the way you do it.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's good for everybody.
That's good for everybody.
It's a way to make a living.
And it's also something we need.
I am a huge consumer of podcasts.
I like listening to people sort stuff out.
I like listening to people talk about Like, I'm a big fan of Radiolab, because they'll tell you all kinds of crazy science stories, and that's where I learned out about CRISPR. I've learned a bunch of things from Radiolab.
It's like, that medium is amazing, man.
And it takes up time where you're normally just not doing anything or you listen to music, like driving or in the gym on a treadmill or something like that.
Like, I'll just get into a podcast.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I think podcasting and just streaming, all of that, I think This thing right here, in the future, everybody's going to need one, otherwise you won't exist.
joe rogan
A microphone.
hotep jesus
A microphone.
joe rogan
Some way to express yourself.
hotep jesus
Some way to communicate with the world.
I think, especially as we get more digital, everybody's going to need one of these to broadcast to other individuals.
joe rogan
Imagine if Johnny Depp had a podcast at the very beginning of the accusations against Amber Heard.
unidentified
Mm.
joe rogan
And Johnny Depp gets on the podcast and is like, first of all, she's shitting my bed.
You know, just telling them the whole thing from top to bottom.
Look, she's crazy.
I married a crazy lady.
She was hot as fuck.
She was great to have sex with.
We did a lot of blow together.
We had a lot of party, but she's out of her fucking mind.
No, I didn't beat her up.
I'm goddamn Johnny Depp.
I'm not beating anybody up.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
hotep jesus
That would have been amazing.
joe rogan
It would have been amazing.
If you had a podcast, that shit would have been over quick.
Because you would be able to listen to his words and listen to her words.
The thing is, when you write an accusation like that and you put it in an op-ed.
I think she put it in an op-ed.
hotep jesus
Dishing.
joe rogan
I forget what website it was on.
jamie vernon
There was ghostwriters for that.
Did you know about this stuff?
joe rogan
Yes, I did.
The ACLU ghostwrote that.
jamie vernon
They made a deal for it and all that stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, they made a deal for it.
She was giving $3.5 million to the ACLU, which was the divorce settlement from Johnny, and that was part of the equation.
Look at you.
jamie vernon
She didn't pay.
Giant Depp had to pay.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, someone might have chipped in for her.
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Some other dude who likes that.
hotep jesus
What's real anymore?
joe rogan
I'll tell you what's real, that pussy.
That pussy must be out of this.
God damn world.
The crazy ones are always the best.
They're always the best.
How is that?
I bet she, for whatever time when you have sex with her, I bet it is the best ride you're ever on.
And you're like, I don't give a fuck how long the line is till I can get on that ride again.
The line might be weeks of her throwing vases at you and fucking throwing the fucking refrigerator over and trying to stab you with a fork because you didn't pet her cat.
She's had her fucking mind.
unidentified
But it was all worth it for that 15 minutes on a Saturday.
joe rogan
Once she tells you she loves you and sticks her tongue down your throat and jumps and wraps her legs around you and you're like, oh my god, we're going to do it again.
jamie vernon
There's someone out there that wants to be the next one, right?
With her?
Probably.
Would you say?
joe rogan
A guy?
jamie vernon
Yeah, like, I can't wait.
Someone.
joe rogan
Someone.
jamie vernon
I'll fix her.
joe rogan
Fucking thousands of guys.
Thousands of guys.
She's hot as fuck, dude.
And at one point in time, they did like...
Wasn't there like...
We tried to talk about this yesterday.
Wasn't there like a mathematical analysis of her face?
Says she has the most perfect face.
hotep jesus
Really?
joe rogan
She's fucking, well, she's getting a little haggard because of the coke and all the lying.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
But if you go back in time, like a few years back, she's goddamn beautiful.
Crazy as fuck and beautiful.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And just traveling you around the world, you're just doing coke together and sunglasses on, stepping off of private jets in the sun, you fucking vampires, can't wait to get to the hotel, eat caviar and do blow.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
You're hanging out with Jack Sparrow, bitch!
Let's go!
Let's fucking go!
hotep jesus
It's like Stacey Dash.
She had all those divorces.
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
And then I tweeted out, after the last divorce, I tweeted some flirt.
I forget what it was.
And my followers were like, do you want to be the fifth husband?
That's crazy.
And I'm like...
I'll take a chance.
joe rogan
Stacey Dash, are you serious?
You know she's gonna let you off the hook.
She's already divorced five times.
Six ain't shit.
hotep jesus
Let's go.
joe rogan
Yeah, plus she seems crazy.
She seems crazy as fuck.
I bet she'd be a lot of fun as well.
hotep jesus
I'd take a chance.
Stacey Dash, I've been a little Stacey Dash my whole life.
joe rogan
Yes.
I think you guys should, you know what you should do?
You should start working together.
Start doing a podcast together.
hotep jesus
Nah, I can't do that.
It'll go down.
It'll go down.
They'll be like, God damn it.
My damn fiance will be pissed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You don't want crazy women in your life, but yet you do.
hotep jesus
You do, yeah.
joe rogan
You do.
You just don't want them that crazy.
That's top of the food chain actress crazy.
That's what you get.
That's like Joan...
What is it?
Joan...
What's the fucking...
The lady with the no more wire hangers.
You know that movie?
Yeah.
Fuck.
It was a movie about an old-timey movie star.
jamie vernon
Mommy Dearest?
joe rogan
Mommy Dearest, yeah.
Joan Crawford.
Joan Crawford, old-timey movie star, was apparently out of her fucking mind.
And she would, like, beat the shit out of her kid and scream at him and torture him.
And the whole thing is about how America loved her and what a terrible mom she was.
And the movie's called Mommy Dearest.
It's a crazy movie.
It's supposedly...
Accurate, but who knows?
You know, the daughter might have been a piece of shit, you know, and she might have made up some stuff about her mom.
hotep jesus
Who knows?
joe rogan
But she also might have told the truth.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
hotep jesus
Probably a little bit of truth.
Yeah.
unidentified
For sure.
I bet Joan Crawford would probably be a wild ride.
joe rogan
Back in the day.
Catch her back in the 40s.
She's young and crazy.
You know, she's naked in a creek somewhere.
hotep jesus
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Yeah, the notorious wire hanger scene is even worse in the film than in the book.
In the book, Christina says, Joan beat her for having wire hangers in her closet, perhaps because when Joan was a girl, her mother had to work at a dry cleaners, and the star hated being reminded of her former poverty.
hotep jesus
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
That bitch was so nuts.
But that's the type of woman that makes a great actress.
hotep jesus
That's true.
That's true.
You gotta be a little bit crazy.
joe rogan
You gotta be crazy.
hotep jesus
You gotta be a little bit crazy.
Even Halle Berry, right?
Like, I love Halle Berry, but...
joe rogan
That was Joan Crawford.
Jesus Christ.
Faye Dunaway played her.
That was Faye Dunaway, though.
That wasn't the real Joan Crawford.
hotep jesus
Oh, okay.
Like, Halle Berry's had, like, a bunch of defunct relationships, but...
joe rogan
Is that the real Joan Crawford?
jamie vernon
I can't tell, honestly.
That's Faye Dunaway.
joe rogan
I wish I knew.
hotep jesus
That's Faye.
joe rogan
That's Faye Dunaway?
jamie vernon
That looks like the real one, but I can't tell.
It could just be makeup.
unidentified
Hmm.
jamie vernon
Oh yeah, that does say Faye Dunaway.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Faye Dunaway pretending to be her.
What does Joan Crawford look like?
Actual Joan Crawford.
So you just get to Joan Crawford.
She was...
She was, um...
What year was she a movie star?
Oh, she looks crazy as fuck.
Oh, goddammit.
God damn it.
Look at that color one down there.
Click on that.
No, the color one.
Right there.
Medicated!
Look at those eyeballs.
That bitch is out at lunch.
I could see her beating her kid.
Couldn't you?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Look how nuts she looks.
unidentified
I could see that.
joe rogan
Jamie, we should get that photo on one of them steel, one of those metal pictures.
hotep jesus
She looked like she just got finished.
joe rogan
Don't you think we should get that?
I think we should get that.
She's crazy.
hotep jesus
She looks like she just got finished beating and somebody questioned her about it and she's like, and what?
joe rogan
She looks like they walked into the room and she's on the bed with blood splatters all over her face.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
And she's sitting there like this.
hotep jesus
Yeah, what are you going to do about it?
unidentified
What is that?
jamie vernon
She's posing with a log?
joe rogan
She's ready to crush her kid's skull.
She's got a fucking log over her shoulder.
Bitch, what are you doing?
What are you doing with that log?
hotep jesus
Who was the creative design for that woman?
joe rogan
Okay, Joan, what I want you to do now is take that log and throw it out of your shoulder.
You're a goddamn lumberjack woman.
That's how powerful you are.
I fucking love it.
Over here.
Over here.
Yeah.
unidentified
Love it.
hotep jesus
She signed off on that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Her publicists need to be fired immediately.
Yeah.
I think we didn't know that people were that crazy until we're seeing all this stuff, like this trial and the OJ trial.
Whenever you get a chance to dig deep into these people's lives, you're like, this is not...
I thought it was so romantic and so amazing and what a life they have.
No.
Out of their fucking mind.
jamie vernon
She did a bunch of horrors and thriller movies, so that might have been why she looks a little extra crazy in some of the pictures.
joe rogan
Oh, like she was extra crazy because she was in the movie being crazy?
jamie vernon
Yeah, like she's possessed is the name of this movie.
joe rogan
I bet she was so much fun.
hotep jesus
She's got to be a little bit crazy to play a crazy person.
joe rogan
I bet she was so much fun.
Do it well.
unidentified
Yo, you wild!
joe rogan
Just you and her in a pickup truck and some fucking whiskey somewhere.
hotep jesus
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Come on.
hotep jesus
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Out there staring at the stars.
I bet she was fun.
Crazy.
I bet she told you, I'm psychic.
jamie vernon
So she signed her contract in 1925. Woo!
hotep jesus
1925. What was happening in 1925?
Okay, that was the roaring 20s.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
hotep jesus
Your money was flowing in.
joe rogan
Imagine what that life was like.
Imagine being a movie star in 1925. Like, what the fuck, man?
hotep jesus
Massive power.
joe rogan
Well, also, it's like there was no movie stars before.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, when was the first movie star?
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who was the first?
Who do you think was the first American movie star?
hotep jesus
You're saying, like, in my opinion or based upon fact?
joe rogan
I mean, I'm just guessing.
I mean, was it Charlie Chaplin?
Was it Buster Keaton?
jamie vernon
Well, talkies or non-talkies?
joe rogan
Well, let's say non-talkies first because that was the first real star, right?
jamie vernon
When I type it in, Florence Lawrence comes up.
joe rogan
Let me see this lady.
Florence Lawrence is a terrible name.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
Somebody gave her that name.
Florence Henderson?
Nope, it's not going to work.
How about Florence Lawrence?
Rolls off the tongue.
That was what a hot lady looked like back then.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
So she's probably in silent films.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
How much skill do you really have to have to act in silent films?
You just have to kind of show up.
hotep jesus
It might be harder.
joe rogan
It might be the move, man.
What's the matter, Jamie?
jamie vernon
This is a fun story.
Maybe a death hoax that launched her career.
hotep jesus
Oh, what?
That's interesting.
joe rogan
In 1910, Florence Lawrence opened the newspaper and discovered she was dead.
The actress recalled seeing her obituary on the way to work, writing in a 1914 article for Pluto Play.
I was startled to see several likenesses of myself staring me in the face, topped by a flamboyant headline announcing my tragic end beneath the wheels of a speeding motor car.
They called them motor cars back then, because they were new as fuck.
Story was obviously a lie, but it made Lawrence's career.
The ensuing publicity frenzy made the Silent Era star a household name at a time when most film actors didn't receive credits for their on-screen work.
They were simply nameless faces.
Oh, wow!
They were simply nameless faces to their fans, which is why Lawrence is often called the first movie star.
And that was all thanks to a manufactured crisis.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
Prior to her death and resurrection, Lawrence had already starred in over a hundred short films.
Following the footsteps of her stage actress mother, Lotta Lawrence, oh my god, that's a real name.
She had put in stints on the vaudeville circuit and at an early American studios like Vitagraph Company before landing at Biograph.
The launching pad for future industry heavyweights, D.W. Griffith and Mary Pickford.
What the fuck is life back then, man, with all silent movies?
You could pay people in, like, fucking school lunches.
hotep jesus
They used to watch movies, like, in this little box.
jamie vernon
Really?
hotep jesus
Yeah, they used to, like, peak and you'd pay, like, ten cents or whatever it was, and you'd look inside this.
joe rogan
They would crank it?
hotep jesus
I'm not sure.
Maybe.
Maybe.
But I know you looked inside this like...
I forget what they call it with that little...
joe rogan
That was the first wave they saw movies?
hotep jesus
That was the first wave of picture films.
jamie vernon
They advertised the length of the film and how long the reel was.
joe rogan
Let me see.
jamie vernon
What?
Right here it says these two films at the bottom.
joe rogan
We nail a lie.
Wow!
jamie vernon
950 feet is the length.
joe rogan
That's crazy!
The Broken Oath, length 950 feet.
The Time Lock Safe, length 960 feet.
jamie vernon
So it's probably 10 seconds longer because it's got 240 more frames.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
It says, a drama that suddenly, sadly, unexpectedly turns into a farce.
If your little child were locked in a safe and you paid a professional safe blower a stack of money to get him out and then found the kid safely, what does that say?
In const?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
In const.
In a towel basket and not in a safe at all, would you be glad or would you be sore?
Imagine what a corking good picture can be worked up on this plot.
How crazy the way they advertised shit back then.
hotep jesus
Yeah, there's a good copywriter right there.
joe rogan
If you never do another thing in your life, Get Mother Love, released March 7th.
Our film...
I don't know what that word is.
jamie vernon
You can see this line here.
These are all what's out right now.
And then it says the feet of how long they are.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
I can't read it.
joe rogan
What year was this?
This newspaper.
That is fucking bananas.
1910. 1910. March 12th.
That is fucking bananas.
jamie vernon
Billboard.
joe rogan
How wild is that, man?
The fucking length of the film was how they advertised it.
hotep jesus
That's wild.
That's very interesting.
joe rogan
The crazy thing is, dude, that was just 100 years ago.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
That's what's crazy.
hotep jesus
Right.
Now it's like a lot of people don't even shoot with film anymore.
I think it's digital.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not that long.
hotep jesus
No.
jamie vernon
One more cool thing, I think.
It's advertising opera chairs here.
It says they're $1.20 and up, but they're folding chairs.
$5.00.
I guess maybe donation and up.
So you just show up and get a chair.
You just grab a chair, set it down, and that's your seat.
Wow.
Maybe you have it in this building.
In 1910, I didn't have a lot set up.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
Musicians wanted for a string quartet.
joe rogan
So it was probably gathering in places like that to see something on a screen that hadn't existed yet.
Like, when did it start existing where they would have a screen?
jamie vernon
Even right above that, they're going to show slides of the big Paris flood.
Sixteen colored slides of the flood in Paris.
Come check it out.
joe rogan
Dude, you had no idea what was really going on in the world back then.
You were fucked.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
You were completely at the beck and call of whoever was the government.
hotep jesus
Right, right, right.
Absolutely.
I mean, that's kind of like why now is good, because we have camera phones, we can record everything, you can't lie about what's happening in Australia.
Imagine if Australia happened back then.
joe rogan
Do you remember there was a Christian Slater movie about he was a pirate radio DJ. And he was like this rebel.
Nobody knew who he was.
And he was like speaking truth.
What is it called?
Pump Up the Volume.
Give me the fucking trailer of this.
This was...
unidentified
What year was this, Jamie?
jamie vernon
It's 90s, early 90s.
unidentified
Yeah, listen.
This is the earliest version of the JRE.
joe rogan
This is what it is.
He was the first.
unidentified
This is the pilot episode.
He's got a pirate radio station.
hotep jesus
Nobody knows who he is.
unidentified
I could talk about an anonymous nerd sitting across from you, but when you turn around, and he just looks away, he never looks back at you again.
He's the cool guy.
Welcome to the research.
May I take your order, please?
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he would play music and he would pontificate philosophically in between the songs.
Why are we the way we are?
Why can't we just get along?
Why can't we just put all the bullshit aside?
Like the Ramones.
unidentified
Rock, rock, rock, rock, rock and roll high school.
joe rogan
And he was just like the coolest guy and everybody was listening.
But the fucking cops had to come get him.
The FBI went to get him.
He had a fight with people.
People were beating his ass because he was talking too much shit in between the songs and society was going to crumble.
Bro, they would fucking go and interview him.
The fucking police were trying to find him.
They were trying to locate where he was broadcasting out of.
It was like a big deal.
They were trying to stop him.
He's speaking too much truth.
unidentified
We got to take out Christian Slater.
joe rogan
That was a real show.
That was a real movie.
hotep jesus
Wow.
I want to say I saw it, but...
joe rogan
I'm sure I saw the whole thing, but I don't remember any of it.
I just remember the premise.
hotep jesus
Yeah, I want to say.
It looks familiar, but maybe I did.
joe rogan
That was a thing back then.
Pirate radio was a real thing.
hotep jesus
Pirate radio was a thing.
Yeah, that was a real thing.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And it was dangerous, because he's going outside the FCC! What if he says cunt?
You know?
I mean, we forget.
Howard Stern got fired.
Fined, rather.
Howard Stern got fined hundreds of thousands of dollars back in the day from the FCC. For saying things on the air there are nothing.
Nothing compared to what everybody says today.
What we freely talk about today.
hotep jesus
Well, FCC is Marxist.
joe rogan
Exactly.
hotep jesus
Ten planks of communism.
Centralization of communication.
Right?
Controlling the airwaves.
unidentified
Well, I think it was the government was mad because he was talking shit about Bush.
joe rogan
Howard would talk a lot of shit about Bush.
hotep jesus
Howard kind of flipped.
I would have thought he would have been today right wing.
And he's not.
joe rogan
No?
I don't know what Howard's...
I think he's definitely not right-wing.
He's definitely left-wing.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yes.
The pandemic didn't do everybody good.
Some people got a little more worked up about it than others.
And he was very upset about it and stayed in the Hamptons and...
He's definitely become more of a left-wing person.
In my book, though, he's the greatest DJ of all time.
He's the number one guy.
He's the Richard Pryor of DJs.
hotep jesus
Hard to argue.
joe rogan
None of what we're doing exists if it's not for Howard Stern, because Howard Stern pushed the envelope before anybody was ever doing it.
hotep jesus
Yes.
joe rogan
He put himself in danger.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
He like literally was getting attacked by the government.
They were going after him.
They were trying to, they were penalizing, financially penalizing the companies that he was in.
You know, for what they were calling, they were saying that it was profanity.
They were describing, they were just making up arbitrary decisions as to what you can and can't say.
And they could do that because they would control the airways.
hotep jesus
He's necessary.
Like his voice is necessary for freedom.
joe rogan
Well, it was super necessary in the beginning, because no one else had the courage to do it.
He was so crazy.
hotep jesus
Right.
joe rogan
That he would do things, and a lot of it, when he was doing it at the time, nobody had ever done anything like that before.
hotep jesus
Correct.
joe rogan
He was so far out there.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you know, people change.
I don't fault him for changing.
That is who he is and more power to him and God bless him.
But the reality of who he is is he's the greatest radio DJ of all time.
Because what he is now is almost irrelevant.
What he created, the door he opened, I will forever be in his dead.
hotep jesus
Yeah, he is a pioneer in that aspect.
joe rogan
100%.
And he had balls, man.
And he opened up the door for Opie and Anthony, and Opie and Anthony did it a different way than he did it, and they opened up the door for me.
Because that's like where I kind of got the idea to really do it, is to watch, these guys just had it like a hang.
Like instead of it being like a very structured interview, like Howard was more structured, he had like questions for you, he was very professional.
Opie and Anthony was like, they would just hang out and they would have fun.
And comics would come in and it'd be like Bobby Kelly and Jim Norton and we'd all be laughing and shit and Patrice and they didn't have a structure at all.
And I was like, damn, that's fun.
I could do that.
And that's got me thinking.
And then when I first saw Anthony Cumia do live from the compound, he had a green screen in his basement because he had all this money.
And he's this crazy single guy who drinks every day.
And so he's got a machine gun and he's doing karaoke in front of a green screen with a machine gun in his basement.
And I was like, God damn, I need a basement with a karaoke machine.
I need to figure out how to broadcast.
It looks so fun.
Because here's a guy who had a show.
One of the top national shows was Opie and Anthony.
He had a show.
unidentified
Yeah, I remember that.
joe rogan
And while he was doing that at nighttime, he was hanging out with his friends and making a podcast.
So this show that he does, or that he did at the time, rather, from his house, that's one of the main things that got me to...
To start it myself, to watch him do it.
unidentified
Like, fuck.
joe rogan
That and Tom Green.
Tom Green turned his fucking house.
hotep jesus
Oh, remember Tom Green?
joe rogan
Turned his house into a recording studio.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Before anybody, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I want to say Tom Green did it in like 2004 or some shit.
2003. Early.
hotep jesus
Super early.
Early.
I want to say before the reality TV show started doing it.
Maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I mean, but he was doing essentially a traditional talk show on the internet from his house.
He had a desk and everything.
You would sit in the seat right next to the desk.
hotep jesus
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
He turned his house into a studio.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
I was thinking about the guy who used to throw water on his parents, wake him up at night and terrorize him.
joe rogan
Oh, Tom Green did that too.
hotep jesus
That's the same Tom Green.
joe rogan
Yeah, same Tom Green.
hotep jesus
But the cameras in the house?
joe rogan
Yeah, he did that.
He'd do pranks on people.
He was famous on MTV first.
And then he went on to do, he had a show that he was doing from his house where he set up his living room like a set.
I didn't know that.
He had cameras there.
He had servers in his house and fucking giant cable cords that were wrapped down and it was wild.
Me and Red Band went to his place like, dude, this is crazy.
And that was also one of the things that got us excited about doing our own thing.
Seeing how he did like, this is crazy.
He turns his whole house into a fucking studio.
And that was part of the motivation to do it.
But you got to think of like all those guys That started doing these kind of things.
Adam Curry, when he developed the first podcast.
That's the original podcaster.
Without Adam Curry, none of this shit happens.
hotep jesus
Yeah, none of it exists, yeah.
joe rogan
Because no one goes, oh, you could just do it like a radio show, but do it online and say whatever you want.
Oh, this is crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, so you don't need satellite radio.
Satellite radio is better than regular radio because you could swear.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's like, you could swear.
Oh my God, we could swear?
This is crazy.
I can't believe this.
And then the internet comes along and goes, you don't have to have any length of time.
You can do whatever the fuck you want.
unidentified
I'm like...
joe rogan
So that's the next one.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that's the new phenomenon.
But look at the names you've mentioned, right?
These are all people that if they would have asked an outside entity, should they do what they did, they would have said no out of fear-based decisions.
But a guy like Howard Stern, who just goes?
joe rogan
Yeah.
hotep jesus
That's what I'd be telling people.
You're afraid of some circumstances or consequences that are actually a creation of your own mind.
They actually don't exist yet.
But if you ignore those, you have exponential growth.
joe rogan
If you could just be yourself.
And then also, if people don't like who yourself turns out to be, they don't like it, maybe you need to do some work on yourself.
Maybe use it as a positive.
hotep jesus
I would say just lead with love.
joe rogan
Lead with love.
hotep jesus
Lead with love.
That's what I tell you.
Man, just lead with love.
If you lead with love, then things usually sort themselves out.
joe rogan
Let's end with that, man.
No finer words have ever been said.
Lead with love.
hotep jesus
Lead with love.
joe rogan
Hotep Jesus, ladies and gentlemen.
Where can people find you?
On Twitter, they can find you on that?
hotep jesus
Yeah, go to my...
joe rogan
And your show.
Tell everybody what's the best way to get all your information.
hotep jesus
Yeah, go to my Twitter account, HotepJesus, or go to...
You can type in HotepJesus.com.
You can't put it posted as a link because it redirects to BrianSharp.co, which is my government name, my legal name, BrianSharp.co.
It has all my links, and then we have the YouTube channel, Hooked Up Jesus.
joe rogan
And are they fucking with you at all on YouTube?
Yeah.
Have you thought about going to one of those other alternative platforms?
hotep jesus
No.
joe rogan
It's better, like, the distribution on YouTube is unprecedented.
hotep jesus
You can't beat it.
joe rogan
Can't beat it.
hotep jesus
There's nobody that can compete with that.
joe rogan
Just gotta get Elon to buy it.
hotep jesus
That's what I was gonna say.
I said, I was like, yo, if Elon could buy YouTube, I'd be so happy, man.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if he buys Twitter and it becomes uber profitable and then he does try to buy YouTube?
hotep jesus
YouTube's very expensive.
Google's not going to give YouTube out.
They're not going to give, no.
unidentified
Twitter and Google are two completely different types of companies.
hotep jesus
That's not going to happen.
joe rogan
Totally different guys are going to be.
hotep jesus
Especially with the entertainment industry connected to it.
That's not going to happen.
unidentified
Also the ability to affect elections.
hotep jesus
Yeah, that whole situation.
joe rogan
Yeah, Google's a crazy powerful organization.
hotep jesus
But before I go to somebody else's platform, I'll build my own.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's smart.
hotep jesus
I'll stream from my own platform.
joe rogan
I think a lot of people are going to do that in the future when they realize that you've built up this gigantic following on another platform and then they can take it away from you at any time.
Yeah.
But keep on rocking in the free world.
hotep jesus
Thank you.
joe rogan
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
hotep jesus
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
Fun times.
All right.
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