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April 26, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1809 - Jessica Kirson
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joe rogan
well it's way easier for you to say that i'm part I'm watching this fucking Johnny Depp trial.
jessica kirson
I haven't, but I'm dying to know about it.
joe rogan
I'm watching this trial like it's a cautionary tale.
It's a cautionary tale about believing in bullshit, forming a narrative in your head like we're rebels together.
That's what I felt like about Anthony Bourdain and his relationship too, that crazy woman.
And then you're seeing it all play out in court.
You're seeing all the crazy come out.
Do you know the fact that he talked about her shitting in his bed?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's great.
jessica kirson
So hot.
joe rogan
Do you think?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
No, right?
It's a real problem.
Hard to forget.
jessica kirson
It's a real problem.
joe rogan
That's hard to forget.
But she said that she used this specific makeup to cover all of her bruises that Johnny gave her, which is not true.
jessica kirson
Specific makeup.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is it was a specific makeup.
It turns out that the company didn't even make that makeup at the time that she was claiming she was using it.
jessica kirson
Oh, wow.
That's crazy.
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's what happens with people like that.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
People that are just completely manipulative and full of shit like that.
Doug Stanhope knows her.
Stanhope's buddies with Johnny Depp.
And he wrote something.
I forget what he wrote.
I think he wrote a little essay about how full of shit she is.
And she threatened to sue him.
And I think he had to wind up taking it down.
I hope I'm not fucking that up.
But he knows her.
He knows her well.
And he's like, she's out of her fucking mind.
And I'm like, like a crazy actress.
He's like, yeah, those are real.
jessica kirson
Of course, there's a ton of them.
joe rogan
There's a lot of them.
That's why they're good.
That is why they're good.
jessica kirson
Yeah, they're great actresses.
joe rogan
They can just start crying.
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole Johnny Depp thing is just...
He was famous when he was 20. And I don't think you get any kind of perspective like that.
I think you're fucked.
It's like making cement, but you don't add in all the ingredients.
And it's like, oh, it never cured right.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Well, I mean, Johnny Depp, what happened?
He looks...
It's rough.
joe rogan
It's 55 years of coke.
unidentified
LAUGHTER He's not 75. He looks great for what he's doing.
joe rogan
He's like 60, right?
unidentified
Yeah, but then he started at 5. He started doing coke at 5. How old is Johnny's up?
joe rogan
He's got to be 60. What is he, 58?
jessica kirson
58. He looks like it's 55 years of donuts.
Coke would make you look thin?
joe rogan
Well, he's not athletic.
He's not working out.
He's not taking care of himself.
For a long time, at least he smoked cigarettes.
I don't know if he still does, but all those factors, they contribute to poor health.
jessica kirson
The outfits aren't great either.
Where is she shopping?
joe rogan
Both of them, right?
She's copying him, supposedly.
She mimics his outfits.
jessica kirson
Let's see.
joe rogan
What's going on here?
jamie vernon
I just had a weird tie on.
joe rogan
Oh, it's just white.
jessica kirson
Just white?
That looks like it's very short.
joe rogan
I think that's a vest, guys.
It's tucked into a vest.
jessica kirson
Oh, okay.
That is a vest.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard.
We're looking at low-resolution photos.
I mean, the whole thing is just...
jessica kirson
He has a bob.
joe rogan
Here's the problem.
Even if he wins, she doesn't have any money.
Like, if he gets $50 million in a settlement, the only good thing is, everybody knows now.
And this is a good thing.
This is one of the reasons why it's good that he did this.
Everyone knows now.
Like, there's something wrong with her.
There's something wrong.
There's some sort of mental issue.
jessica kirson
There's a lot of mental issues.
And you said she shit in his bed.
joe rogan
I didn't say that.
They said that.
jessica kirson
Who's they?
joe rogan
The people on the news.
jessica kirson
Well, they're always right.
unidentified
That's what I found out the last year.
jessica kirson
Okay, so they said that she shit in his bed.
For what reason?
To mark territory?
joe rogan
Johnny Depp testified that Amber Heard ate a cheesy gordita crunch from Taco Bell.
unidentified
Breaking news.
Okay, let's see.
joe rogan
That might be fake news.
We're going to find out whether or not Amber Heard shit in the bed next on the Joe Rogan Experience.
unidentified
Well, I'm trying to...
Yeah, okay.
jamie vernon
It's Newsweek.
joe rogan
Okay.
Clips of Johnny Depp accusing Amber Heard of defecating in bed go viral.
Imagine, what a slow week for news.
Newsweek is like, fuck Syria.
Forget about the Ukraine.
jessica kirson
Let's find out about pooping.
There's children's hospitals being blown up in Ukraine, but let's find out if she's shitting his bed.
joe rogan
Look at him.
I'm on my side of the bed.
unidentified
It was human fecal matter.
joe rogan
Let me hear how he says it.
unidentified
It wasn't a good time.
It's human fecal matter.
jessica kirson
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
So I understood why it wasn't a good time to go down there.
She was sitting on one side of the couch, I was sitting on the other.
johnny depp
That's when she was trying to explain a few things about Coachella and then the fecal delivery.
unidentified
And saying that it was the dogs.
And I'm sorry, I could not agree with her.
I lived with those dogs.
I picked up their fun.
It was not the dogs.
joe rogan
Look at his face!
First of all, this is a big win for Johnny Depp.
And a big loss with Pirates of the Caribbean.
How about fuck you guys?
You got rid of the best fucking pirate you've ever had.
For a crazy lady.
You fucked up!
unidentified
Fecal delivery.
joe rogan
Yeah, fecal delivery.
unidentified
Daddy, I just made fecal delivery!
Can you change me?
jessica kirson
What's fecal delivery?
joe rogan
That's a nice way of saying in court.
She shit the bed.
Because you can't say that in court.
unidentified
I made a fecal delivery.
joe rogan
What happens if he said, she shit in my bed in court?
Do they kick you out?
Do they get mad at you?
jessica kirson
She made a dump in my bed.
joe rogan
I bet you could say dump.
She dumped.
Excuse me.
Objection!
The defendant is using slang.
jessica kirson
She fucking shit in my bed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fucking bitch shit in my bed.
jessica kirson
Did you see him smirking?
That's what made me laugh so hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Through all of this.
But this is like what can happen to a guy like that.
If you get caught up in that romantic idea that this is my woman.
He didn't even sign a prenup.
He was worth like $300 million.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And he didn't sign a prenup.
jessica kirson
What an idiot!
You know what, then he, like...
unidentified
Well, uh, Embers insisted we were in love.
joe rogan
We wouldn't need a prenup.
unidentified
And, like, I didn't expect her to take a fucking shit in my bed.
joe rogan
How long were they even married for?
jessica kirson
I don't know, 11 days.
jamie vernon
They're in Virginia, in Fairfax, Virginia.
joe rogan
That's where the court is?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder if it's favorable for plaintiffs there, because it's a civil case where he's suing her for $50 million.
It's like a defamation case.
The thing is, there was a video or an audio recording that came out where she was admitting to hitting him.
She changed this narrative.
And the way she was talking about it publicly is that he was abusive.
And that she was just this victim and she tried to protect him by not telling anybody.
And then there's, I think that's roughly it.
And then there was this audio recording that he had secretly recorded where she's talking about hitting him.
And he said, you punched me.
And he said, I didn't punch you, I hit you.
jessica kirson
I didn't punch you, I hit you.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good voice.
jessica kirson
No, you punched me.
No, I didn't.
I didn't punch you.
unidentified
Yeah, you did.
jessica kirson
No, I didn't.
unidentified
Yeah, you totally punched me.
You totally punched me.
jessica kirson
No, I didn't.
unidentified
I just brushed against you.
Yeah, and you deposited feces in my bed.
joe rogan
I think the finger argument when she cut his finger off...
jessica kirson
This is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What were they arguing about?
I want to say it might have something to do with the prenup.
The finger argument.
unidentified
I think it was about the depositing of feces.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if it was the other way around?
If the woman had 300 million dollars and the guy was like cutting her finger off because she wouldn't sign a prenup?
unidentified
He'd be put in jail for the rest of- She threw a fucking bottle at him!
joe rogan
Why did she- find out please, because I don't want to get sued.
jessica kirson
Did they ever explain why she deposited feces in his bed?
joe rogan
Well, the fecal delivery was unexpected.
unidentified
I coughed and it just came out, Johnny.
joe rogan
She probably did X-lax cut ecstasy.
Like ecstasy that's cut with X-lax.
You know they do that.
jessica kirson
With ex-lax?
joe rogan
Yes.
They cut cocaine with ex-lax.
jessica kirson
Are you kidding me?
unidentified
No, not at all.
jessica kirson
Because cocaine is already ex-lax.
joe rogan
No, they definitely do.
They do it.
Why?
Because they're dirty people that are just trying to make money off you, right?
jessica kirson
That's horrible because cocaine made me shit like a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Did it?
jessica kirson
The second I did cocaine, I shit my brains out.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
Yes.
joe rogan
It's like coffee then.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
You never did cocaine?
joe rogan
No, I've never done cocaine.
jessica kirson
I didn't know that.
That's incredible that you've never done cocaine.
It made me go right away.
It made me anxious.
So I went immediately.
joe rogan
When I was in high school, one of my good friends had a cousin that was selling coke.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I saw him literally lose his life.
He's still alive.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I mean, everything fell apart.
He lost all this weight.
It was just hiding in...
They had an attic apartment.
They were in this attic apartment all day.
And all they were doing was doing coke, selling coke, and watching TV. And I was like, whoa.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
It's bad.
I had a very hard time on that.
I got very paranoid.
I looked out of a peephole for six hours at a time.
joe rogan
Depp said he painted with the blood on his finger after it was cut during a fight with Herd.
During the testimony of a violent argument in Australia in 2005, Herd claimed the result of the tip of his finger being cut off.
But what was the reason for it?
Heard threw two vodka bottles at him, and when one exploded, sliced his finger to the point where the bone was exposed.
But what was the argument about?
I think the argument was...
jamie vernon
Well, then he then just says what he wrote on the mirror.
It had to do with Billy Bob.
jessica kirson
Reminders.
joe rogan
Billy Bob and Easy Amber.
Oh, no.
Billy Bob Thornton fucked her.
That guy's a stud.
He fucked Angelina Jolie.
He fucked her.
jessica kirson
Which is so...
I mean, I would kill to fuck Angelina Jolie.
joe rogan
How much would you kill?
Like a puppy?
jessica kirson
Like a whole kindergarten fucking class.
Of my own children.
joe rogan
Back then, too, she was super young.
She was hot!
And they were doing the blood thing where they took each other's blood and put it in a vial and hung it around their neck.
unidentified
Yep.
jessica kirson
Yep.
They must have been doing wild shit together.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes them couples, them fiery couples, they get together.
They get together and that's what happens.
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they mix liquids and fucking...
joe rogan
Throw bottles at each other.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Fucking bash each other's heads into the wall.
joe rogan
Shit in each other's beds.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
We're partying.
We're rock stars, bitch.
Billy Bob Thornton insists he didn't sleep with Amber Heard.
jamie vernon
He says it's not true.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
That's what he says.
joe rogan
Well, if he's saying that, it's probably not true.
jessica kirson
Her eyes.
Her eyes.
Look.
It's crazy.
Look in her eyes.
joe rogan
Yes.
Or he wants to fuck her again.
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
He's like, I didn't, but I will now.
joe rogan
Maybe he wants to fuck her again.
Maybe he's single, and she contacted him, like, this is such bullshit, like, fucking Johnny is doing this to me, and it's so traumatic.
Yeah, listen, that sucks.
Listen, don't worry.
I mean, I'll just cover for you.
unidentified
If you want to deposit feces in my bed.
Wow, okay.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
We're getting a chance to see through this Will Smith thing with Jada Pinkett, through this Johnny Depp thing with Amber Heard.
They're not just protected by publicists anymore.
It's not like they can just hide and you think of them as these impossible people who are without flaws.
And then when they die, you see the autobiography and you're like, oh!
John Crawford was fucking crazy!
unidentified
Right.
jessica kirson
That's so true.
We found out years later that they shit in a bed.
That's what it used to be like.
Now you see it.
You actually watch them shitting in a bed.
joe rogan
On OnlyFans.
Amber has to pay the bills.
Imagine?
It's like Amber shitting the bed on OnlyFans.
jessica kirson
Pretty soon you're going to watch the shit come out of some celebrity's asshole.
joe rogan
For sure if they need money.
For sure if it gets hard.
Hard times, like in between films.
jessica kirson
Did you see the shit come out of Britney Spears' ass on video?
It's all over their internet.
You're gonna watch someone's shit now.
joe rogan
Somebody had a really good point.
Who'd they compare Britney Spears to?
They were like, why is it that Britney Spears, that her parents claimed conservatorship over her?
But look at all the male celebrities.
That are off the charts fucking crazy, blowing all their money.
Who did they use as an example, though?
Someone recently.
God damn it.
jessica kirson
A guy?
joe rogan
Yes, it was a guy that's out of their fucking mind.
jessica kirson
I'm trying to think of who's really out of their mind who's blowing money.
joe rogan
Kanye, maybe?
Maybe it was Kanye.
jessica kirson
Does he blow money?
He does, but he has so much that it's like...
joe rogan
He has an unstoppable amount of money, because he's got money coming in constantly from all the Yeezys.
Yeezys fly off the shelves.
And all of his other businesses, and then his music, and then he's got that brilliant music player.
Have you seen that music player?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
It's fucking incredible.
It looks like a UFO. What's it called again?
Stem.
Stem player, right?
It's called a stem player.
And you can mix music on the fly with it.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
And he released his new album only available on this music player.
jessica kirson
What a brilliant idea.
joe rogan
Brilliant.
And he sold like two million copies of it immediately.
So it's like what he's doing with this is, first of all, he's cutting everybody out, all the parasites that suck money out of them, cut them out, and he creates his own platform.
For the music.
He doesn't just create his own music.
He creates his own platform for the music to be delivered to people.
And he's so big that people are like, we're in.
jessica kirson
That is a brilliant idea.
joe rogan
Brilliant.
He's a brilliant guy.
There's no doubt about it.
He's crazy as fuck.
But in the best way possible.
In the most creative way possible.
He makes fucking...
I'll show you something, but we can't show it on the podcast.
Because we'll get in trouble.
Because people get mad at us.
But...
This is something that he posted on Instagram and they took it down when he was going back and forth with Pete Davidson because Pete Davidson is banging his lady.
jessica kirson
Which is so crazy.
joe rogan
It's kind of funny.
jessica kirson
I love it.
joe rogan
It is kind of funny.
jessica kirson
I love it so much.
joe rogan
Where is it?
God damn it.
unidentified
I hate, like, lulls while I search.
But unfortunately, that's unavoidable right now.
joe rogan
But this, um...
That thing is crazy too, right?
Like, here you got...
jessica kirson
I mean, Pete has got...
The hottest...
It's crazy.
unidentified
Is it?
This is.
joe rogan
So he posts that about Pete Davidson, but here's the best part.
Underneath it, last one for tonight, maybe.
unidentified
Maybe.
Maybe.
joe rogan
Last one for tonight, maybe.
jessica kirson
Meanwhile, that's the biggest lie on earth, from what I've heard.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
jessica kirson
Biggest lie on earth.
joe rogan
About the meme, yeah.
jessica kirson
No, about that fact.
joe rogan
Exactly.
jessica kirson
About Pete.
joe rogan
About him, yeah, exactly.
The meme that he wrote.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the kids hung a good horse.
jessica kirson
Hung like a fucking horse from a first...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kid slinging dick.
jessica kirson
Slinging.
joe rogan
Slinging.
jessica kirson
Slaying.
Whatever the fuck you want to say.
joe rogan
Slinging dick and slaying.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Both.
joe rogan
He's out there.
jessica kirson
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kind of amazing.
unidentified
I mean...
jessica kirson
I mean...
joe rogan
Just the general numbers the kids put down.
jessica kirson
Beyond.
joe rogan
Yeah, like famous people, too.
jessica kirson
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
He's lovable.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
In some strange way.
jessica kirson
I love Pete.
I've known him since he was a teenager.
He's amazing.
joe rogan
He branded Kim's name on him.
jessica kirson
He did?
joe rogan
Branded.
jessica kirson
Where?
joe rogan
Like Yellowstone.
You ever watch that show of Yellowstone?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Whoa!
Where did he brand her name on him?
joe rogan
I don't know, because he tattooed her name on him several times.
jessica kirson
What?
joe rogan
And then she was like, well, you could always get rid of a tattoo.
And he's like, hold my beer.
jessica kirson
This is unreal.
Good for you, Pete.
joe rogan
Does that sound good for you?
jessica kirson
I don't give a shit.
At this point, who cares?
joe rogan
I'm waiting for the trial.
I want to see the Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian trial.
jessica kirson
I wonder where he branded...
I hope it's on his asshole.
joe rogan
On the asshole itself?
jessica kirson
Yeah, why not?
That could get infected.
That's not good.
joe rogan
You can't cover it up.
Poop's got to come out.
Unless you fasted for a couple of days before the brand, so you cleaned out the pipes.
jessica kirson
I don't know.
You just made me think of food for some reason.
You have an amazing vending machine here.
joe rogan
It's not bad, right?
jessica kirson
I was just talking about branding assholes, and I thought of your vending machine.
joe rogan
It's good.
It's healthy stuff.
jessica kirson
I just got 700 things from It's Empty.
I'm Jewish.
unidentified
That's okay.
jessica kirson
I literally pressed every button on it.
My bag is full.
joe rogan
We can have cases sent to you.
I'll have cases of stuff sent to you.
You don't have to steal.
jessica kirson
I want everyone to know, has anyone talked about your vending machine?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
jessica kirson
I think your people here were like, oh boy, I took a lot out of it.
joe rogan
Did you eat the protein bites?
jessica kirson
Yes!
joe rogan
The coconut ones with dark chocolate?
jessica kirson
I took that one.
joe rogan
Those are good.
jessica kirson
He has this vending machine with all this healthy shit in it, but it's really good, and you can press whatever you want.
You don't have to put money in it.
I love free shit, so I pressed it.
joe rogan
Good for you.
jessica kirson
It's great.
joe rogan
You should try the alpha brain stuff.
Try that stuff.
jessica kirson
I did.
I got the...
What do you think?
joe rogan
Have you tried it before, though?
jessica kirson
Never tried it.
I got the memory thing, the immune booster.
joe rogan
Have you ever used any kind of nootropics?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
Nootropics are?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
There are supplements that increase memory and brain function.
jessica kirson
I got them.
I mean, I'm going to try all of them.
joe rogan
It's real.
There's a bunch, not only the stuff that we sell, that Onnit sells, but there's other stuff that I love, like that stuff on the table over there is NeuroGum.
That stuff's fantastic.
jessica kirson
What's that?
What does that do?
joe rogan
Gum.
I have no affiliation with these people.
Although I do think they bought ads, but I don't think we ever did them.
Did we ever do a NeuroGum ad?
Maybe one.
The gum itself is good gum.
It's tasty.
They have cinnamon and mint.
But what it does is it has caffeine, it has theanine in it, and some other stuff.
And it essentially enhances brain function.
jessica kirson
Oh, that's great.
I need that.
I'm brain dead.
joe rogan
You seem very elucid.
jessica kirson
I'm very, I can focus when I'm in a conversation, but I'm really, my brain is real.
I've done a lot of drugs in my life, Joe.
joe rogan
When did you stop?
jessica kirson
At this point, like a year and seven months ago.
joe rogan
Nothing now.
jessica kirson
Nothing.
joe rogan
No coffee?
jessica kirson
I can't.
joe rogan
No cigarettes?
jessica kirson
Oh, no, I do coffee.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
jessica kirson
Ton of coffee.
joe rogan
No cigarettes?
jessica kirson
No.
I can't do a little bit of drugs.
I have an animal.
joe rogan
Did you ever smoke cigarettes?
jessica kirson
Yes.
joe rogan
You did?
jessica kirson
A lot.
joe rogan
What was harder to kick?
Drugs or cigarettes?
jessica kirson
Cigarettes was fucking hard.
Really?
It was very hard for me to stop smoking cigarettes when I stopped.
I sobbed.
It's an oral thing.
It was such a habit.
But I'd say quitting drugs was really tough.
But it's not like I quit once and stopped.
I've relapsed at certain points.
unidentified
What was your favorite drug?
jessica kirson
Uh, I'd say, I mean, pot was always a big one, but pills mostly.
I mean, I've always, like, loved pills.
joe rogan
Like what kinds?
jessica kirson
I mean, uh, painkillers, uh, I loved Ambien.
I know that might sound crazy to people, but I love, I love being knocked out, and I love, like, cooking a whole meal and not remembering it the next day.
joe rogan
I had a bit about it in my eye because it really did happen to Kevin James.
Kevin James went to the store.
I think he got a turkey, something crazy like that, and cooked it and forgot everything and woke up in the morning and called the police.
And he's like, what the fuck is going on?
Somebody came into my house and cooked food.
jessica kirson
I would be on the road and go to the vending machine and wake up the wrong way on the bed with wrappers all over me and chocolate over me.
I'm like, did I go down on someone's ass with shit all over my face?
unidentified
I was like, what the fuck happened?
jessica kirson
Did I go down on Amber Heard?
It was insane.
I just love blacking out.
So I was up to taking tons of pills a night of Ambien and then smoking tons of pot.
And I have kids.
I can't do that at this age.
I can't be taking tons of Ambien and Xanax.
joe rogan
When you would take that stuff, if you take Ambien, did you feel rested the next day?
jessica kirson
No.
unidentified
I felt like I was run over by a truck.
joe rogan
And you still took it again?
unidentified
Oh, yeah!
jessica kirson
I couldn't wait.
I'd be counting down the hours till I could take it again.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
I wanted to die.
It's a slow suicide.
It's like wanting to pass out.
I wanted to knock myself out.
joe rogan
So when you take it, how long do you take it before you knock out?
Like, before you pass out?
An hour or so?
jessica kirson
I would kind of milk it.
I'd want to stay up to feel that, like, you know, just my eyes.
unidentified
Really?
jessica kirson
You like that?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I love feeling whacked out of my mind.
unidentified
Why is that?
jessica kirson
I love being really...
Because my brain doesn't stop.
I'm a nuts.
My brain...
So I love just knocking myself out.
And I would have a vape pen of pot.
So I would take that and then I would just suck on that for as long as I could until I pass out.
Like, I would never take a hit or two.
I would suck on it.
Like a fucking nipple.
And then I would take Xanax I would just...
I'm an animal.
I'm an animal.
joe rogan
You just keep going.
jessica kirson
Yeah, there was no like a little bit and just get a little hot.
I would want to knock myself out.
joe rogan
Go hard or go home.
jessica kirson
Yeah, so then like I would just wake up and there'd be like chips on me and like a pill on the floor.
The TV blasting.
unidentified
And my kid would just be staring like, Mama, time to get up!
joe rogan
Oh no!
jessica kirson
It's crazy!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jessica kirson
I'm like, okay.
joe rogan
Just to sleep.
jessica kirson
And that was because COVID really freaked me out.
And it's just like, I can't, it's not gonna work.
Oh, so you went double hard with COVID? Yeah, because I'm like, I had a whole week of, you know, my special had just come out, my Bill Burt, you know, Comedy Central special.
I just did a Tonight Show for the third time.
My career was exploding and then fucking COVID. And I'm like, oh, no, this is not, I can't be home right now.
I've been on the road for 23 years now.
All my work is canceled for a year and I'm home.
I lost it.
I'm like, I have to do drugs again.
I was like...
I'm done.
I'm not okay.
Like, I'm not going to be okay.
So I just was like, I can smoke a little pot.
And then that was it.
joe rogan
How long had you been sober before that?
jessica kirson
I mean, I've had years, eight years, six years.
But, you know, when I stopped working on myself, I would start just smoking pot, and then I'd start taking pills.
But I haven't had a drink in 22 years.
22 and a half years.
joe rogan
That's the one that you felt like was the most toxic.
I want to keep away from that.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Well, no, I never loved...
Alcohol.
But when I drank, I would get cocked out of my mind.
joe rogan
I kind of wish I knew you then.
jessica kirson
Everyone says that.
unidentified
I think it would have been fun for you and I to get blasted one night.
jessica kirson
I know, but you know what?
When I go out with people, every comic says this, they're like, you feel like you're more wasted than everyone in the room.
I act like I'm wasted constantly.
joe rogan
Well, you're silly.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I'm so silly.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's great, though.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's great, because you can maintain...
There's a lot of people that get really boring and morose and fucking weird, depressed after they stop.
jessica kirson
Oh, I know.
I'm not like that at all.
I'm so silly.
At the Moon Tower industry party the other night, I fell over.
It's on my Instagram page.
unidentified
I saw that.
jessica kirson
I fall into things all the time.
I crash into tables and chairs at uptight parties.
I'm out of my mind.
I'm like a fucking four-year-old.
joe rogan
How come every industry party has to have a large placard?
There has to be some wall with logos on it.
jessica kirson
No one even takes pictures in front of them.
joe rogan
But I don't understand.
You can't just have a party.
You have to have that wall, right?
jessica kirson
It's so stupid.
No one even addressed it.
Well, some people do, I guess.
I hate everyone so much.
joe rogan
But what a weird thing that people have, like that one big wall where someone's supposed to stand in front of and take photos.
jessica kirson
I know.
I mean, it's the world's ending.
joe rogan
That's the only time it exists.
That kind of thing.
jessica kirson
They got so mad at me too, the people that put it up.
For falling?
Well, I did it on purpose.
joe rogan
Oh, you did?
jessica kirson
Of course!
I grabbed onto it and dragged it off.
You did it on purpose?
unidentified
Of course.
jessica kirson
Joe, I do it at every party.
Watch how I grab it.
Look.
unidentified
Look.
joe rogan
They got mad at you?
jessica kirson
Yeah, they're like, that's really not funny that you grabbed that.
joe rogan
Who said that?
That guy right there?
jessica kirson
Yeah, I'm like, I'm okay.
I'm okay.
It's okay.
unidentified
It's okay.
jessica kirson
This is what I do.
But all the comics died laughing because they all are used to it.
The Comedy Cellar.
I do it at the Comedy Cellar all the time.
And the booker, Esty, is like, why do you have to do that?
You know Esty.
She goes, you have to crash into furniture here.
It's not funny.
unidentified
You're going to break the table because I do it all the time.
joe rogan
But whenever a guy has to come up to a comic and say, especially a funny comic, and go, that's actually not funny.
Don't do that.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, it's not funny to you?
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Because you like your placard?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You like this big fake wall that you put up with logos all over it?
Is that like where you get to fucking draw your line in the sand?
jessica kirson
Well, that makes me want to burn the whole party down.
Like, I want to just take a torch and burn the whole fucking party down when someone tries to, you know, censor me or shame me.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You didn't even break it.
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
You're pretty gentle.
jessica kirson
I know how to do it because I do it all the time.
Everyone's like, how do you not get hurt?
I'm like, because I do it all the time.
I love when people get annoyed.
It makes me want to do it more.
unidentified
I'm like a four-year-old.
joe rogan
I'm glad you're sober.
I hope you stay sober, but I wish I knew you when you were partying.
jessica kirson
I'll just relapse so that you're happy.
joe rogan
Just a little bit.
Just relapse a little bit.
We'll have rehab on standby.
jessica kirson
I'll go to your house and not tell anyone, and I'll just relapse with you a little bit.
joe rogan
No problem.
Just a little bit.
You know, the falling down thing, I have this theory about Chevy Chase.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because everybody hates Chevy Chase.
He's supposed to be an asshole.
jessica kirson
I know.
I hear that a lot.
joe rogan
I think he's in pain all the time.
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I do.
And I think he probably gave himself brain damage.
If you watch all of those old SNLs and you watch all the Fletch movies, how many times did that guy fall down?
Like all those pratfalls?
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Those are bad.
Like some of them are really bad.
jessica kirson
Look at him.
joe rogan
Like...
No bullshit.
You're right.
The guy fell constantly.
Look, I mean, there's a whole thing.
Dude, let me tell you something.
If you do this over and over and over again, you're going to get hurt.
There's no doubt about it.
jessica kirson
You know, you're right.
joe rogan
And he's not like an athlete, right?
So he's falling.
He's just trying to make it the most spectacular fall.
Look how he's falling.
Look how he fell off the fucking stairs like that.
Watch this.
That is bad.
Dude, this happened fucking hundreds of times.
He did this on stage, on television, in movies.
I mean, he's not faking these falls.
I mean, he's trying to protect himself a little bit from falling down, but he's fucking falling, and he's falling a lot.
And so when you do this, and you do this dozens of times, A hundred times.
Who knows?
I guarantee you he got injured.
I guarantee you his back's fucked up and most likely his head's fucked up.
jessica kirson
You know, you're not lying at all because when you're like that, like me, you're going to do whatever you have to do to get a laugh and to get attention because I'm filled with self-hatred and I need everyone to like me.
joe rogan
I'm sure he is too.
jessica kirson
Right.
So you're going to do whatever you have to...
I mean, like, I don't care if I get hurt.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to go full force on it to get a laugh.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is, if you fake fall and it looks fake...
No one laughs.
jessica kirson
Of course!
joe rogan
You gotta go hard.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
You have to slam your head into the ground if you have to to get the laugh.
joe rogan
He's going face first off the side of stairs just because it's gonna be funnier that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Did you know Chris Farley?
joe rogan
I did not know.
I met him once.
He came to a set of news radio when we were filming and he looked gray like cardboard.
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
I'll never forget it.
I'll never forget it.
He sweat like a thin oily sheen of sweat on his face and his skin was gray and I was like holy fuck.
He was partying with Andy.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And he came to the set.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
jessica kirson
He was, to me, one of the funniest.
I laughed so hard at him, I couldn't.
joe rogan
Oh, his pratfalls were insane.
His energy level was insane.
I mean, you go back and watch those movies like Tommy Boy.
He fucking went for it.
You want to talk about a guy who went for it.
unidentified
Right.
jessica kirson
That's why he was so fun.
John Belushi.
unidentified
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I mean, these people were fearless.
Fearless.
joe rogan
But that's my theory about Chevy Chase.
And I think it's real.
I think Chevy Chase got hurt a lot.
And I think when you get hurt like that, you're probably constantly in pain.
And the other thing is like the amount of times he fell and hit his head.
It's not a small number.
It's probably in the hundreds.
Like when you fall and hit your head like that, that's how, you know, people don't realize this, but a lot of soccer players have traumatic brain injury from heading the ball.
People who ride jet skis too much get traumatic brain injuries just from the bouncing.
That throttles your fucking brain, rattles your brain.
I guarantee you he's rattling his brain.
He's falling down over and over again.
The guy's probably got brain damage.
Like he's probably all fucked up because you keep hearing about Chevy Chase yelling at people and saying fucked up things.
jessica kirson
I've heard horrible things about Chevy Chase.
joe rogan
But I think that's probably what it is.
I'm not exonerating him from responsibility.
I'm not excusing him.
But I guarantee you one of the reasons he's so fucked up is all those faults.
jessica kirson
What's that new shit about Bill Murray?
Did he just hit on someone or something?
joe rogan
I do not know what he did.
jessica kirson
I don't either.
joe rogan
I saw the thing that they shut down production and the fucked up thing is it's like Aziz's movie.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
So Aziz is like, yikes!
Shut the movie down!
I mean, Aziz went down for a consensual sexual encounter with a girl who felt like he was too pushy.
jessica kirson
Right.
It was something about...
Wasn't it about eating someone?
I love saying that.
unidentified
He ate her out.
joe rogan
She blew him.
jessica kirson
He wanted to keep going.
You know how old of a term that is?
I love saying eating out because that's from when I was younger.
joe rogan
Is there a new term?
jessica kirson
Did you eat her out?
Yeah, going down on.
Isn't it like...
joe rogan
Going down's been forever.
jessica kirson
I love going to third.
Third now is...
joe rogan
Third is fingering.
Isn't it?
You don't go third with your face.
jessica kirson
No, I think...
joe rogan
You slide in face first?
jessica kirson
No, wait a second.
People are going to talk about this from the podcast.
joe rogan
Second is breasts.
jessica kirson
Yeah, third is...
joe rogan
First is making out.
jessica kirson
Third is eating out.
joe rogan
No, you're a dirty person.
You're doing horrible things.
unidentified
Wait a second.
jessica kirson
This is going to be amazing.
Wait, a home run is sex.
joe rogan
Yes.
jessica kirson
So isn't third eating out?
joe rogan
Well, if you ask Bill Clinton...
jessica kirson
Who cares what he thinks?
joe rogan
Well, I did not have sexual relations with that girl, but it was sex because she blew him, remember?
Like everybody said, that was sex.
jessica kirson
Right.
That's not sex.
joe rogan
So it's oral sex.
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
But it's oral sex.
jessica kirson
Right, so third is eating out.
joe rogan
I think that's sex.
jessica kirson
Eating out!
joe rogan
I think eating someone's pussy counts as sex.
jessica kirson
No, not to me.
joe rogan
Wow.
So you can just do that forever?
You're always good?
Get to third?
jessica kirson
I think so.
joe rogan
And you're a virgin.
jessica kirson
Yes.
Yes.
Sex, a penis in a vagina is home base.
joe rogan
Okay.
I can see it if you're playing it that way.
jessica kirson
What do you think?
joe rogan
Third base has always been like touching genitals.
jessica kirson
Okay.
joe rogan
Right?
jamie vernon
Glamour Magazine agrees.
joe rogan
Thank you, Glamour Magazine.
It's the one thing we agree on.
But like, fingered somebody.
jamie vernon
Grabbing dicks.
jessica kirson
That's third base.
Okay, so now first base is like anal.
joe rogan
Apparently there was a study where they said that a lot of teenage kids, because of porn, there's a high percentage of teenage kids that are doing anal.
My thought was, what kind of fucking scientist are you?
Imagine those scientists that are engaging in that study.
Like, what do you want to study?
Do you want to study frogs being affected by climate change?
You know, the carbon in the atmosphere?
No, no, no.
How about kids butt-fucking?
How many kids are butt-fucking?
Is it more than before?
Like, you got charts and graphs.
This is when the butt-fucking really kicked in.
Somewhere around 2007. That was when smartphones came available.
Butt-fucking escalated.
jessica kirson
I know.
It's a lot to think about when you have a teen.
When you have a daughter.
I mean, I do too.
I don't really want to think about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, tell them not to do that.
It's not worth it.
jessica kirson
No, it's not.
Unless you go slow.
What were you going to say?
unidentified
Hey!
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I don't know.
unidentified
You could have a fecal delivery, unfortunately.
joe rogan
I want to know if that's true about the ex-lax, because I'm pretty sure they cut cocaine with laxatives.
Let's make sure that's true, because I'm a non-cocaine user.
jessica kirson
That's an evil thing to do.
I'm just saying, anyone listening to this that has done or does cocaine, it is a laxative.
joe rogan
Let me say this.
It's fairly evil, but it's better than fentanyl.
Don't cut it with fentanyl.
jessica kirson
That's killing people.
Please don't cut it with fentanyl.
joe rogan
Let me do that.
jamie vernon
Interesting.
This is American Addiction Centers.
Common cocaine additives.
joe rogan
Common cocaine additives include laundry detergent, laxatives, laxatives in there, caffeine, boric acid, local anesthetics like procaine, and creatine.
These all come in a white powder form that's visually indistinguishable from the standard form of street cocaine.
They're not particularly dangerous, but also not something that you generally want in your body.
Small particles in laundry detergent can build up in arteries and cause dangerous blockages in heart, brain, and liver.
So the only problem in that list is laundry detergent, apparently, because they singled laundry detergent out.
They don't give a fuck about you causing a fecal delivery.
What is boric acid?
jamie vernon
I think it's also laundry detergent, a form of it.
joe rogan
Really?
Oh, really?
jessica kirson
Roach powder.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's roach powder.
Oh my god.
Oh, so it's a fucking...
Okay.
Boric acid is a weakly acidic hydrate of boric oxide with mild antiseptic, antifungal, and antiviral properties.
The exact mechanism of action of boric acid is unknown.
Generally cytotoxic to all cells.
It's used in the treatment of yeast infections and cold sores.
jessica kirson
Well, that's good.
You won't get a yeast infection.
joe rogan
Yeah, there you go.
Like, while you're doing cocaine.
jessica kirson
Because that's a pain in the fucking crotch.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
jessica kirson
That's annoying.
joe rogan
Dudes can get those too, right?
jessica kirson
Yeah, I think so.
It's great if you can do coke and not get itchy.
joe rogan
Maybe that's it.
That and cranberry juice.
All together.
Just clear it all out.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I'd rather that than get diarrhea.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
Of course!
I mean, meaning I'd rather not get a yeast infection than get diarrhea.
joe rogan
So what would be better?
A yeast infection or diarrhea?
jessica kirson
Diarrhea.
A yeast infection is horrific.
You want to take a rake to your pussy.
unidentified
Really?
jessica kirson
It's horrible.
joe rogan
A rake to your pussy?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
I'm never going to forget that.
jessica kirson
A rake.
Not even...
joe rogan
That fucking metal...
jessica kirson
That's the name of my new special.
joe rogan
When you say rake, you see the rake.
I see the rake.
I see a vagina.
jessica kirson
I'm not kidding.
joe rogan
And I'm like, no.
That doesn't go there.
jessica kirson
A rake.
A full-size rake.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
jessica kirson
I just snorted.
I'm not kidding.
unidentified
A wire brush.
It's bad.
jessica kirson
It is so...
joe rogan
One of those grill brushes?
jessica kirson
Yeah, sandpaper.
Like a fucking...
A grill brush would be amazing on that.
joe rogan
So what do you do when it itches that bad?
jessica kirson
You itch it.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Then it gets infected?
jessica kirson
Yeah, you take a fucking raccoon claw.
You take whatever you can.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
jessica kirson
You go outside and you fucking capture a raccoon.
joe rogan
I see his little tiny hand.
jessica kirson
You kill a raccoon.
You kill a raccoon and you cut off its fucking arm and you rake your fucking pussy with a raccoon.
You do whatever you have to.
It's that aggressive.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
jessica kirson
It's so itchy.
It's bad.
joe rogan
And what do they do for it?
jessica kirson
You get medicine.
You have to call your gyno, and there's over-the-counter, but you have to get a prescription.
It's horrible.
I haven't had one in years.
joe rogan
How long does it take for that to...
jessica kirson
I mean, now they have good medication.
It could take a couple of days, but it's horrible.
joe rogan
So for two days, you're just itchy.
jessica kirson
But it's so aggressive that you get the chills.
It's like, ah!
It's bad.
I know.
joe rogan
I have a phantom pussy right now.
jessica kirson
I know.
I feel that you do.
I get it.
joe rogan
I'm trying to imagine.
jessica kirson
It's bad.
And it can go all over.
It's just bad.
joe rogan
It can go everywhere, like the outside area?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird that we have this strange relationship to bacteria, because it's vital.
You have to have bacteria, and some of it just goes rogue, some of it goes bad.
But basically, we're an ecosystem of bacteria.
Every human being, you have more bacteria cells than you have human cells in your body.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
I mean, you have to have, like, it's, I get it.
I know we have to have it.
It's just, I don't know.
I mean, and you can get it just from having sex too much.
I mean, it's not, like, it's hard to avoid getting those.
joe rogan
Does a yeast infection come from an imbalance?
Does it come from an abrasion and an imbalance?
jessica kirson
Not an abrasion, I don't think.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
No.
jessica kirson
I think it's an imbalance.
Can you look that up?
I don't know.
I think it's an imbalance.
joe rogan
Like some sort of...
Because they know that that's one of the things they use for...
With jiu-jitsu, a lot of people get different rashes.
jessica kirson
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Ringworm is one.
It's a big one.
jessica kirson
Have you had that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I've had it.
Here it is.
What is the main cause of yeast infection?
Yeast infections are mainly caused by a yeast-like fungus named Candida or Manila.
Okay, that's the same stuff that people get in their gut.
Candida is what makes people, when people eat a lot of sugar, Candida loves sugar.
This fungus is a normal resident in your body.
Usually your body's immunity keeps this fungus under control.
It causes infection if you are sick or are taking any antibiotics.
jessica kirson
Right.
If you take antibiotics, you can easily get one.
joe rogan
Right.
jessica kirson
So you should eat yogurt and shit like that.
joe rogan
Look up, is candida the stuff that people have in their gut when they eat too much sugar?
It is.
Yeah, that is it, right?
So the point was that a lot of people, to combat that, they start eating a lot of healthy bacteria.
So they eat a lot of probiotics.
Like one of the things people love is acidophilus.
Acidophilus is really good, especially like the serious stuff they keep in the refrigerator.
Yogurt, things with like active yeast cultures.
I like a lot of kimchi and kombucha.
Those are my favorite probiotics.
jessica kirson
I like that stuff too.
I like kimchi also.
joe rogan
But those things are good to have a good healthy gut biome.
You gotta add some probiotic to it.
jessica kirson
Do you ever eat sugar?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
You do?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do.
I just don't eat it a lot.
I love sugar.
Everybody does.
jessica kirson
No, I know.
I just didn't know if you stay away from sugar, white flour, shit like that.
joe rogan
I do.
I do for the most part.
I stay away from white flour for the most part.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
But every now and then I'll have some pizza.
I'm not dogmatic about it, but most of my diet is just meat and fruit.
That's most of my diet.
A large percentage of it.
Occasionally I'll have a corn tortilla.
Occasionally I'll have a piece of pizza.
Occasionally I'll have...
Pasta or something, but I feel like the best diet for me seems to be unprocessed, natural whole foods, very lean meat.
Game meat is my favorite, but with that you have to have bacon or something.
You have to have some fats.
You need fat.
You especially need fat if you're on a lean meat diet and you're just eating salads and lean meat.
Where's your fat coming from?
Unless you put a lot of olive oil on your salad, you're going to need some kind of fats.
jessica kirson
Do you do cheeses and stuff?
Yeah, I like cheeses.
I eat very healthy.
I mean, I've lost a shitload of weight.
unidentified
Yeah, you look great.
jessica kirson
Thank you.
joe rogan
How much have you lost since I first met you?
jessica kirson
Oh my god, I mean I've lost altogether, you're not gonna believe this, but about 150 pounds.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
jessica kirson
It's incredible.
I believe it.
But I eat like the way you eat, but I don't eat sugar and white flour, but I eat like brown rice or sweet potato a little bit, not a ton.
joe rogan
Do you know Lar Bites?
jessica kirson
Yes.
joe rogan
Laura looks fucking amazing.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
And she, when I met her, she was big.
And she just decided over COVID, she's like, hey, I realize, like, fucking fat people are dying of this shit.
jessica kirson
That's what I, yeah, me too.
joe rogan
Like, I'm gonna lose weight.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so she got super dedicated, but she's so brave.
Like, she posts photos of herself, like, before and after and puts it on Instagram, like, shows, like, her at her worst and shows how she looks now.
You know?
Yeah.
She just wants to let everybody know, hey, I did it.
You could do it, too.
It's totally possible.
I never thought like that.
I never thought I was ever going to be lean.
She's fucking great.
She's lost so much weight.
She's super dedicated, too.
She goes on the road with me sometimes.
She's always in the fucking gym.
I get down to the gym, she's already in there.
Already fucking hoofing on the treadmill.
She puts in her time.
jessica kirson
It's, I mean, I think, I don't think, a big part of it was because of my kids.
Like, I'm an older mom, and I'm like, I have to be okay.
I mean, I'm not going to live long if I don't get healthy.
It's not fair to them.
joe rogan
Right, and then you have that thought, like, oh my god, who takes care of my kids?
jessica kirson
Exactly.
They're going to lose their mother.
joe rogan
Exactly.
jessica kirson
It's real.
joe rogan
It's real, yeah.
jessica kirson
Like, Tim Dillon and I just did the podcast, and it was all, we, it was really funny.
Did you see clips of it?
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen any of it.
jessica kirson
Oh my God, it's hysterical.
joe rogan
Was it his or yours?
jessica kirson
It was his podcast.
But there's a clip.
It's actually on my Instagram.
You should pull it up because you're going to fucking die.
We talked about the fat movement, that people are saying it's okay to be fat.
And I'm like, it was not okay.
It was not okay how fat I was.
I don't agree with the whole thing.
It was...
I should not...
This is a very short clip.
joe rogan
Fat activism.
jessica kirson
Yeah, it's...
joe rogan
Pro-fat movement now.
tim dillon
It's very interesting, the fat activism.
As people who've struggled with our weight, it's interesting to see now it's gone the other way where fat people are threatening people on social media.
jessica kirson
I've been 330 pounds and no one should have been promoting me.
I... I was disgusting and should have been shot.
unidentified
I should have been hunted down and shot.
I was an animal.
jessica kirson
I should have gotten help.
Someone should have gotten a net and fucking put me in a cage and helped me.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
But there's a movement now.
jessica kirson
Well, I needed to move.
I needed a lot of movement.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.
jessica kirson
I mean...
joe rogan
I'm in a group chat and someone sent me this...
One of the people in the chat sent me this thing about Lizzo's new show.
jessica kirson
That's what we talked about.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Because there's this transgender person on Lizzo's show, and they're all together.
They're big girls, and they're doing exercise together.
And they're like 10, 15 seconds in, they're having fucking heart attacks.
jessica kirson
That's what we talked about.
That's exactly what we talked about.
He said, what if someone had a heart attack?
joe rogan
It's possible.
It's legitimately possible.
This idea that that's okay and that's good, that's as insane as drunk activists.
That's as insane as someone who's just shit-faced 24 hours a day with no concern of their liver, and everybody's like, no, you do you, boo.
It's cool to be drunk.
jessica kirson
Well, listen, I mean, I get how hard it is.
I've had a weight problem my entire life.
I mean, I went to fat camp as a kid.
I talk about it in my act.
joe rogan
What do they do in fat camp?
jessica kirson
You get more fat.
So every summer I went...
unidentified
What do they do?
jessica kirson
I first went, I was 10 pounds overweight.
The last summer I went, I was about 100 pounds overweight.
So I got fatter every summer.
They fucked you up.
100%.
So if anyone's sensitive to fat or being heavy, it's me.
But I don't, you know, I think it's a major disease.
I look at it as a disease and an addiction.
So I don't look at it like, oh, it's just I eat too much.
Like to me, it's a real addiction.
joe rogan
Your mind can play terrible tricks on you.
And your mind can convince you to eat when you're not hungry and just keep eating.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
And it's like this, like hate eating.
jessica kirson
Oh, I want to kill myself.
So I, I, it's to me, it was a slow suicide.
I literally hurt myself with food.
So I'm serious.
Like I fucking, I fuck my face with food.
unidentified
Like I don't chew.
joe rogan
What was your go-to food?
jessica kirson
I don't chew.
unidentified
You don't chew?
jessica kirson
No, I fuck my face.
joe rogan
Like you can't get it in there quick enough?
jessica kirson
No, I will eat a whole sandwich if I didn't think I'd choke to death.
unidentified
Like a seagull.
joe rogan
You ever see a seagull swallow a rat?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
Jamie?
jessica kirson
I might die if I see this, but...
joe rogan
There's a video, I think it's in Italy, a seagull swallows a rat whole, and it's not a small rat.
jessica kirson
Oh my god!
joe rogan
It just picks this thing up, throws its head back, opens up his mouth, and just choke, watch this, here it is, watch this.
jessica kirson
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Birds don't give a fuck.
They don't give a fuck.
Watch this again.
Look how he picks that rat up.
He just swallows the whole thing up.
He found a dead rat laying on the street, probably poisoned, and he just swallowed the whole thing.
You know, that's a real issue with raptors.
What is that one?
A starfish?
unidentified
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
I saw one that said it eats a pigeonhole, too.
I didn't click on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen the pigeon.
jessica kirson
But I have a question for you.
joe rogan
Yeah?
jessica kirson
How does that decompose in that thing's body, in the bird's body?
joe rogan
Not good.
The bird's going to die if that rat's poisoned.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Because then the poison that's in the rat is now in the bird, and it'll eventually go through its digestive tract and enter the bloodstream.
There's an issue with owls in the hills.
Because a lot of people are poisoning rats.
So they leave rat poison out.
And then the rats get picked off by the owls and the owls wind up dying of poison.
And hawks too.
Because those are the ones that keep the rats, other than the coyotes, they're the ones that keep the rat population in check.
jessica kirson
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So when some asshole, you know, doesn't like rats near his garbage can, instead of putting traps, he'll put poison.
That poison gets into those other animals and it fucks up the ecosystem.
jessica kirson
That's fucked up because I think most people do that, don't they?
joe rogan
Well, a lot of people do.
jessica kirson
More so in the cities.
I would assume more people use poison than they do traps.
joe rogan
Yeah, both of them are not that effective.
Traps can be pretty effective if rats are stupid, but the problem is once a rat sees a trap and sees another rat get snapped up in the trap, that rat will never get snapped up in a trap.
And then once a rat sees...
Like, rats send other rats out to check poison.
They send smaller, younger rats out.
Really?
Yeah, it was a Netflix documentary.
jessica kirson
Animals are amazing.
joe rogan
They're pretty incredible.
Well, it's evolution.
I mean, that's how you evolve and stay alive.
It's natural selection.
They've figured out that there's an issue whenever this thing shows up.
So let's send...
There seems to be some food out here.
jessica kirson
What the fuck is that?
jamie vernon
A whole rabbit, dude.
joe rogan
A whole rabbit.
Wow.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Is the rabbit already dead?
It seems like it is.
Take it from the beginning.
Yeah, the rabbit's already dead.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's pretty crazy.
jessica kirson
Look at that.
joe rogan
The fact that the rabbit is like half its body size.
jessica kirson
I've never seen anything like that.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Wow, it's nuts.
Jesus Christ.
jessica kirson
I mean, I get it.
I get eating something that big and not chewing it.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
It's like, as evil as that is, there's something evil and remorseless about a bird swallowing something whole.
It's emotionless.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
There's something mechanical about it, right?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Snakes take that to the next level.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
Snakes are the ultimate of the serpent world, of that world of lizards.
Underneath all those feathers, that's a fucking dinosaur, right?
That's a lizard.
jessica kirson
It is.
joe rogan
That's what those things are.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
In fact, they just recently found out that pterodactyls, petro...
What do they call them?
unidentified
Petro...
joe rogan
Petro...
What is it?
Petrosaur?
Yeah.
They found out they have feathers.
Really?
Yeah, they found feathers.
That are associated with petrosaurs, like fossilized feather remnants.
So now they're reasonably certain that at least some of the pterodactyls had feathers.
Because, you know, in the movies, they always had wings like a bat, right?
jessica kirson
Right, yeah.
joe rogan
They don't think so anymore.
jessica kirson
That's so interesting.
joe rogan
They think they were fucking birds.
They were fucking birds.
Dinosaurs are birds.
Chickens are birds.
I mean, chickens are dinosaurs, rather.
jessica kirson
I wonder what the biggest thing a snake can eat.
joe rogan
Oh, they can eat things.
There's a snake that died in Florida, because Florida is basically like a meth head version of Jurassic Park.
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The middle of Florida.
I think the number is somewhere in the high 90s.
90 plus percent of all the mammals that used to live in the Everglades are gone.
jessica kirson
Yeah, the Everglades.
joe rogan
Deer population is down to almost nothing.
Rat population down to almost nothing.
Raccoons.
Because it's all been killed by snakes.
And so the snakes have killed so many.
Because there's somewhere in the neighborhood...
A high estimate is half a million.
Half a million pythons that live in the Everglades.
jessica kirson
Holy shit.
joe rogan
That's a high estimate.
But these things are massive.
They just found a 19-foot one there recently.
Hundreds of pounds.
And one of them they found that had a 12-foot alligator that it was trying to eat.
So as it was trying to eat the alligator, the alligator was trying to get away and the alligator broke out of its body and they both died.
jessica kirson
My God, can you look at that?
joe rogan
Look at the size of that thing.
jessica kirson
Wait, I can't even see where the snake is.
joe rogan
That's the snake all around it that swallowed the alligator.
So that alligator tail is poking out of a rupture in the snake's body.
jessica kirson
I can't even believe what I'm looking at right now.
joe rogan
So an alligator, his tail ripped through the side of the snake and they both died.
jessica kirson
That is sick.
joe rogan
But the snake swallowed a fucking alligator.
unidentified
Headfirst.
jessica kirson
I can't even believe that.
Look at that picture.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's insane.
I mean, they swallowed deers whole.
They swallowed people whole.
There's a bunch of videos from other...
Look at, he's eating a fucking alligator.
jessica kirson
Holy shit.
Look at that picture.
joe rogan
Well, there's nothing left for them to eat.
I mean, pythons are really some...
that people used to have as pets.
And these dipshits in the 1970s that had them as pets, they just let them loose at the golf course.
And next thing you know, Florida's infested.
It's changed the ecosystem of Florida.
jessica kirson
I know.
unidentified
Right.
jessica kirson
What are they going to eat now?
joe rogan
They've eaten everything.
jessica kirson
What do you think is going to happen?
joe rogan
They're going to eat each other.
And then the population is probably going to get ill.
There's probably going to be some sort of sickness that runs through.
And hopefully, I mean, I don't think there's a lot of illnesses that come from reptiles, especially not snakes, that transfer over to people.
I never really heard of any.
I wonder if that's true.
Because I know there's avian flus, and then there's swine flu, and there's a bunch of them for animals, and it's usually from agriculture, for making them live in their own shit and just disgusting conditions.
That's where a lot of those crossover bugs come from.
They come from large-scale agriculture.
But I don't think that's the case with pythons.
But I think they're...
If I had to guess, they're going to starve.
And then they're going to try to make it into people's yards.
And they're going to eat a lot of dogs and cats.
They're trying to eradicate them, but there's too many.
They would literally have to drain the swamp, like Donald Trump style.
Like, they would have to actually drain the swamp.
Like, really drain the swamp.
Like, that'd be the only way you're gonna find all the fucking snakes.
And you really have to kill them all.
Because it started off with just a few.
Just a few, and now there's a half a million enormous, enormous snakes.
They're so big.
See the most recent one.
They just recently, I think it was last year, found a 19-foot long snake.
A 19-foot long python.
jessica kirson
Do you like snakes?
joe rogan
No, I don't like snakes at all.
jessica kirson
I don't either.
joe rogan
At all.
jessica kirson
At all.
joe rogan
I hate reptiles.
I always buy belts, specifically, out of crocodile.
Look, I'm wearing one right now.
That's a crocodile belt.
unidentified
I hate them.
joe rogan
I buy everything.
I go, can I get that in Crocodile?
Can I get an alligator?
I hate those cunts.
I hate them.
They're fucking rotten creatures.
They're just the cleanup crew.
If you've got a broken leg and you find yourself in the swamp, guess what's going to eat you alive?
That fucking alligator.
unidentified
I hate them.
jessica kirson
Snakes freak me the fuck out.
I'm on team mammal.
joe rogan
Fuck snakes.
Yeah, I hate them.
I love snakes, man.
Fuck you.
If you love snakes, you hate your stepdad.
jessica kirson
For sure.
What makes you say that?
joe rogan
Because it's like something like, fuck you, man.
All I need is my snake.
My snake understands me.
And you just can't wait to get your band of death metal and get out on the road and get out of your house.
You know?
While you're in the driveway with the van, your dad's yelling at your mom like, we gotta go, man.
Let's just go.
jessica kirson
Did you have pets growing up?
joe rogan
Yes.
jessica kirson
Like a dog?
joe rogan
Yeah, dogs and cats.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I did too, but they were all treated like shit.
joe rogan
Aww.
jessica kirson
No, it's okay.
We moved and my mom forgot the two outdoor cats.
joe rogan
Oh no.
jessica kirson
She's like, I just didn't remember.
I forgot them.
joe rogan
People were different back then though.
jessica kirson
Oh yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
They were just one generation removed from the fucking depression.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, their parents had to go through the Great Depression.
They were hard people, Matt.
jessica kirson
That's true.
joe rogan
Oh my god, people were starving.
Oh, there's a video, go to Nugget on Instagram.
There's a video of some kids in 1901 that are looking at a camera for the first time.
It's wild.
jessica kirson
Looking what?
joe rogan
Looking at a camera for the first time.
Trying to figure out while they're filming them.
So they're filming these kids with a video camera in 1901. 1901. And you're like, look at these people.
Dude, you gotta understand, this is what our grandparents went through.
These are hard fucking people.
Like, look at that kid.
These are hard people.
jessica kirson
Look at him.
Look at him with his thumbs in his pocket.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's probably thinking, can I rob this camera?
Little hooligans.
Was that kid carrying a baby?
The one in the front?
jamie vernon
Maybe.
joe rogan
It seems like he's carrying a baby.
jamie vernon
Could be his sibling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at that kid.
It says right there, that one kid was 75 years old.
Look at that guy who wrote that.
It's true.
He does look like he's almost 75 years old.
You could see right away.
Yeah, that kid's got a baby, I think.
jessica kirson
And people complain so much now.
These kids had nothing.
joe rogan
They barely survived then.
Nobody had enough food.
No one was fat then.
No one.
jessica kirson
No one.
They're all sharing one potato.
All four of those people.
joe rogan
You couldn't get fat then.
There was no fucking food.
Do you know the average size of a man in the Civil War was like 130 pounds?
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Well, yeah, of course.
That makes sense.
unidentified
No food.
joe rogan
Nobody had any food.
jessica kirson
God, I wish we had no food.
joe rogan
Let me see if that's true.
jessica kirson
I'm joking.
joe rogan
What's the average weight of a man during the Civil War?
Because I have information that's in my head.
I don't know if all of it's good.
jessica kirson
You're like, I better check this out.
joe rogan
Some of it's pretty good.
Some of it's pretty good.
jessica kirson
No, you're much more educated than I am.
I wouldn't say that.
I wouldn't say educated.
unidentified
I've memorized some stuff.
joe rogan
What's the average weight of a man during the Civil War?
What do you think it is?
jessica kirson
Guess.
141. I literally just said that out of my asshole.
joe rogan
That's a big guy back then.
I think that guy was like the fucking, the top boss.
unidentified
111. You went lower.
jessica kirson
Fuck it, 100. 92. What's up?
jamie vernon
Average age of 26. Average height, 5'8".
unidentified
Average weight, 143. Whoa!
joe rogan
Pretty good.
Dude, you nailed it.
jessica kirson
What was the age?
unidentified
26. 26. That's pretty old.
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's a lot.
I mean, I've read stories now because I've done some looking back into that time period.
There were kids that were trying to go in because they didn't have anything else to do and they wanted to go fight for the family and they would just sneak in.
So there were some kids that got in under 16 and a little younger.
joe rogan
Now, what is the average age of a 28-year-old man now?
Average what?
Excuse me.
Average weight.
Average age of a 28-year-old man.
That's how dumb I am.
See?
Don't say I'm educated.
Stop.
jessica kirson
By the way, that's also, the height is interesting, 5'8".
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I think it's a food thing.
I think it's also a food thing.
jessica kirson
Now it's 6'4".
jamie vernon
So the average American 20-year-old weighs 197 with a 40-inch waist and is just over 5'9".
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Only an inch bigger, 50 pounds heavier.
jessica kirson
That is a very high weight for an average guy.
jamie vernon
That's a 20. I don't know why.
It says, again, I mean, it says what is the average age or average size of a 28-year-old man, and then it goes to a 20-year-old for some reason.
jessica kirson
But that's...
joe rogan
Well, either way, that's heavy.
Goddamn, that's heavy.
jessica kirson
It is heavy for an average...
joe rogan
Well, you know why?
Because so many of them are super fat.
jessica kirson
What's for a woman?
I'm curious what it is for a woman.
unidentified
Let's guess.
jessica kirson
3'10".
unidentified
I'm joking.
jessica kirson
5 feet.
joe rogan
I'd say the average woman's height is 5'6", and I'd say the average woman's weight is 140. That's light.
jessica kirson
I'd say 5'6", and I'd say...
155. 5'4?
jamie vernon
170.6 pounds.
jessica kirson
Holy shit.
unidentified
What?!
joe rogan
What?!
jessica kirson
I'm not surprised.
joe rogan
The average American woman, 20 years old, weighs 170 pounds?
That's a fucking welterweight!
jessica kirson
I'm not surprised.
joe rogan
That's Kamaru Usman when he weighs in.
jessica kirson
That's crazy.
I'm not surprised.
joe rogan
That's so big.
jessica kirson
What's the height?
joe rogan
5'6?
5'4.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I'm 5'4.
joe rogan
That's so heavy.
jessica kirson
But I'm not surprised at all.
joe rogan
Well, it's food.
I mean, it's the way people eat.
It's our access to food.
jessica kirson
And by the way, when I'm eating sugar and flour, all I want is more and more and more.
I'm telling you, my body, it's a problem.
I just physically, chemically want more.
joe rogan
They say it's that candida.
I don't know if that's true.
jessica kirson
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
That was this thing that I was reading.
It was saying about there was a link between gut bacteria, specific types of gut bacteria, and cravings.
See if that's true.
Link between candida.
jamie vernon
I totally remember there's a video someone made.
It was really well, like it was a cartoon.
It looked really good.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right, yeah.
jamie vernon
The information sounds really good, but then at the end of it, I think they were trying to sell something, so it seemed like, well, what is this?
joe rogan
It seemed hokey.
But does gut bacteria, just Google, does gut bacteria influence appetite?
jamie vernon
All I'm going to get is that candida stuff.
Whether it's true or not, I have to dig through all sorts of stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, we can't do that.
jessica kirson
I mean, it hooks you in.
joe rogan
It does hook you in, but also the sugar spikes lead to crashes and lead to you want to get hungry again.
jessica kirson
It's bad.
joe rogan
But when I eat mostly meat, which is what I do, and fruit, I don't have horrible cravings.
jessica kirson
Me either.
And vegetables.
I don't crave anything.
I mean, I'm fine.
I really feel okay.
joe rogan
Those hangry moments, those come from eating a lot of carbs for me.
jessica kirson
Me too.
joe rogan
Do you eat cheese?
Yeah, I like cheese.
jessica kirson
I love cheese.
joe rogan
I love blue cheese.
I love Roquefort.
I love that fucking gnarly cheese.
jessica kirson
I understand that.
joe rogan
Plus, I love the fact my kids don't like it, so it's all mine.
jessica kirson
Most kids hate it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they eat the fuck out of cheddar cheese.
jessica kirson
I love cheddar.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too.
jessica kirson
I love feta.
Some people don't.
I love feta cheese.
joe rogan
You know, the best cheese is raw cheese, if you can get some raw cheese.
I bought a house from this guy back in the day, and he was this really nice French guy.
And he wanted to have us over for dinner.
And he had this, I think it was called Rocklot, this like style of cooking.
They would like melt cheese and vegetables all together with meats.
And he only wanted raw cheese and he couldn't get it in America because everything has to be pasteurized and homogenized.
So he smuggled cheese back from France.
unidentified
And I was very worried that I would get caught at the border.
joe rogan
That's how much he liked that cheese.
He smuggled it in his fucking suitcases.
unidentified
Cheese!
Cheese!
joe rogan
Big ol' fuckin' giant chunks of cheese.
jessica kirson
That sounds good, what you're describing.
joe rogan
It's very good.
jessica kirson
I mean, I would be happy with cheese, meat, and vegetables.
Just that.
joe rogan
It was just interesting that it was raw cheese.
In his mind, it had to be a raw cheese.
That was the only kind of cheese that was cheese.
The cheese in America was bullshit.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I mean, it's not great.
joe rogan
Have you ever had raw milk?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
It tastes fucking good.
jessica kirson
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It tastes different.
Yeah, it's like, I don't know if this is true either, but the enzymes in raw milk, apparently, because it's not pasteurized and homogenized, your body has a much easier time processing it.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I mean, supposedly milk and cheese is not grapefruit.
joe rogan
Supposedly.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I don't know.
joe rogan
I think, but this guy was saying, you know, that this doctor, he was an oncologist, the French guy, and he was saying, it is because of the bestization, the modernization, it fucks up the pH.
He was just saying that, like, for people that, like, if you, it does make sense, though, that if, like, you take milk, regular milk that comes out of a cow, you It's got to have all the natural bacteria in it and the enzymes and all the things that allow a baby cow to drink it and nourish them.
If you took that stuff and you boiled the fuck out of it so everything's dead, which is what they do.
That's what they do, right?
Pasteurization is a heating process and homogenization.
The whole idea is that when you see a jug of milk that's sitting in a refrigerator for a fucking month, that's not normal.
It's supposed to go bad.
It's supposed to go bad pretty quick.
Pasteurized milk is a raw milk that has been heated to specify temperature and time to kill pathogens that may be found in raw milk.
Pathogens are microorganisms such as bacteria that make us sick.
Yeah, raw milk can contain pathogens such as E. coli, salmonella, listeria, and other bacteria.
Yeah, it can, but it also can have none.
Just like the food you eat.
Like, you know, if you eat chicken, like chicken can have bacteria.
You cook the chicken off.
You know, and that's how you don't get salmonella, and that's how you get, you know, pasteurized milk.
But at the end of the day, some stuff is probably better for you raw.
It's just you can't keep it on a shelf.
Raw milk, raw cheese, raw butter, raw cream, and raw kefir are whole gut biome superfoods.
They seed the gut with diverse beneficial bacteria while providing the enzymes, proteins, minerals, and good fats that bacteria love to eat.
Well, yeah, that's it.
jessica kirson
It's supposed to be better, all that stuff.
joe rogan
It's supposed to be better, but you and I are not nutritionists.
But I do know for me, it tastes better.
I like it.
It feels better when I drink raw milk.
I rarely drink raw milk.
People were getting arrested for selling raw milk in California for a while.
jessica kirson
Arrested?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what was going on with that.
There was an arrest and everybody was outraged, like how absurd it was that you're arresting people for selling raw milk.
jessica kirson
That sounds really crazy.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
California's fucking crazy.
jessica kirson
Well, a lot of places are crazy.
joe rogan
California is off the charts right now.
They're so crazy.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
It's such a mess.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
It's just a big homeless encampment.
jessica kirson
It's a what?
joe rogan
It's a big homeless encampment.
I think they're going to abandon LA, just run out, and it's going to be filled with tents in 50 years.
When you go back to LA, you won't even be able to drive because you'll run over all the needles.
So you're just going to have to park your car outside and you wear a hazmat suit.
jessica kirson
It's like backing up when you go through a rental car place.
joe rogan
Yeah, you wear like a bulletproof hazmat suit and that's going to be how you journey through LA. And you're just going to watch people kill each other and shoot heroin.
jamie vernon
Raw milk across state lines in the United States.
joe rogan
Okay.
States may adopt their own laws, but I think it's a California...
There was a California law.
I know I used to buy it at a local health food store.
And then something happened.
Oh, here it is.
"Following armed raids in 2010 and two arrests in 2011, the founder of the Rossum Co-op, James Stewart, was again arrested last Thursday by a trio of tough-looking men in street clothes driving unmarked luxury cars." So imagine armed raids for a guy who's selling milk.
Because he's selling raw milk.
jessica kirson
I don't know what's going on anywhere.
I mean, New York is bad, too.
I'm not talking about the homeless thing.
Yeah, it's really bad for crime.
joe rogan
Crime's bad?
Well, when you don't arrest people.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
It's really bad.
jessica kirson
I know.
I mean, it's gotten so crazy.
I'm the kind of person where I say it's not good.
I did it last night in Austin, where if I think someone's being bullied or things are happening, I speak out.
It's not a good thing to do, especially because I'm a woman.
I mean, I'm being honest.
I'll be like...
You know, what are you doing?
Like, I get involved.
Did you see something on the street?
Yeah, and I stick up for people.
It's not good.
I did it last night with a little guy that was riding the bike.
He was torturing this drunk guy on the street.
He kept riding into him.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
jessica kirson
And I stuck up for the guy.
I shouldn't get involved.
It's stupid.
unidentified
Did the guy get angry at you?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
He's like, get the fuck out of my room.
I'm like, what are you doing?
I got involved.
And I'm a woman.
It's crazy.
But I can't not say anything.
joe rogan
It's crazy for guys, too.
But I know what you're saying.
unidentified
I know.
jessica kirson
I'm such a true...
I can't...
So...
But in New York, I wouldn't dare do that.
unidentified
Really?
jessica kirson
Because I'm going to get shot.
Yeah, it's bad there.
joe rogan
So noticeably different.
When did it shift?
jessica kirson
Um...
joe rogan
I'd say during COVID. That de Blasio guy is responsible for so much damage to that city.
jessica kirson
I agree.
I agree with you completely.
He was so fucking dumb.
He's a nightmare.
A nightmare.
joe rogan
So weird that that was the mayor of New York City.
jessica kirson
Horrible.
joe rogan
Did you ever see that video that he released about bringing the arts back?
About how they're going to reopen the city?
No.
jessica kirson
I heard about it, but I didn't watch it.
joe rogan
You should watch it.
Because it's so dumb.
It's so bad.
It seems like you're watching a scene in a Coen Brothers movie.
jessica kirson
I bet.
joe rogan
Like a sketch.
Like a scene in the Big Lebowski.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where these guys are doing some sort of interpretive dance.
No, I'm not kidding.
They're doing interpretive dance.
Watch this.
Play it from the beginning.
Because we need to hear it.
unidentified
You need to hear it.
joe rogan
Because it's so goddamn crazy.
You're like, no, no, no.
Joe, you're exaggerating.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at the dance.
unidentified
We need a recovery that brings back the life and the heart and the energy of this city, and that everyone gets to be a part of.
And we're gonna do that.
We're gonna really bring back the heart and soul of New York City.
We need our arts and culture back, and we need people to see it and feel it, to participate in it, to know that essence of New York City has not been defeated by the coronavirus, but will come back strong in 2021. They all got masks on outside, but then he doesn't.
Open culture is another step towards a recovery for our city.
We're launching with 115 street locations in all five boroughs.
jessica kirson
This is the worst thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
unidentified
But the music is fire, right?
And give artists, cultural institutions, and creatives a place to showcase their talents as they recover from the pandemic.
jessica kirson
Now I'm definitely relapsing.
I just made a decision to relapse.
joe rogan
We got joints right here.
I'll fire one up.
jessica kirson
That is fucking horrible.
joe rogan
How about the fact that they got a guy who barely can speak English?
unidentified
We're going to bring back the culture.
jessica kirson
First of all, I just decided not only am I relapsing, but I'm sucking dick for the first time in 20s.
That just made me homophobic and I'm married to a woman.
What the fuck was that?
unidentified
That was paid for with tax dollars.
joe rogan
That's what you need to know.
In the time where people's economy, the economy's falling apart, people's businesses are collapsing, he's got everything locked down.
jessica kirson
The dancing was all off.
unidentified
All off.
joe rogan
It's like a scene, right?
It seemed like a scene in a Coen Brothers movie.
jessica kirson
That was a Saturday Night Live sketch.
joe rogan
It's too funny for that.
jessica kirson
That's amazing what you just said.
That was horrible.
joe rogan
Horrible.
jessica kirson
They're not wearing masks.
Everyone else is.
joe rogan
This is the funniest thing.
Well, he's not wearing masks when he's talking, but he was wearing masks when he's sitting down.
And they're wearing masks while they're dancing.
jessica kirson
I need to get that and play that.
I need to rub one out to that.
It was so bad.
joe rogan
The music.
jessica kirson
He should be arrested for that.
That was so...
unidentified
It's like so bad.
jessica kirson
I just became an independent.
I can't even believe what you said.
joe rogan
Join Dave Smith.
Become a libertarian.
But it's not even about libertarians.
There's great Democrats.
There's great Democrats out there.
jessica kirson
No, I know.
Of course there are.
And I know you feel that way.
You and I have talked a lot.
I mean, meaning, the first night I met you, we had a talk outside of the creek in the cave about how you feel.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This Democrat-Republican thing is the worst thing for this country.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
This idea that you could be on one or the other team.
It's so bad for people because we just inherently, we have this instinctual tribal instinct to join a group and to adopt all the ideas of the group.
It's bad for us.
jessica kirson
It's not good.
And it's not, by the way, it's not what's happening.
joe rogan
Right.
jessica kirson
Meaning most people...
Are not on one side or the other.
No.
Most people believe in different things from different sides.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially when it comes to financial things, things that have to do with their children, things that have to do with crime.
jessica kirson
Yep.
joe rogan
You'd be amazed at how quickly people become a little more pro-police and concerned about Crime and protecting neighborhoods when you have children.
It's almost instinctively people become at least slightly more conservative in that regard.
jessica kirson
That is true.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you realize, especially if you see actual crime and violence, if you actually witness this and realize, oh, you're in danger, and it takes a long time for cops to get to you, and people in New York are experiencing that right now, where they're realizing, oh, no one's coming.
Make that phone call.
No one's coming.
Call 9-1-1.
Good luck!
Who's gonna help you?
jessica kirson
It's also people feel differently sometimes when they live in a city or they live in suburbia.
Like there's different, or where you live, what parts of the country.
It's a lot of different factors.
joe rogan
A lot of different factors.
Yeah.
It's just the way they handled things, you know, particularly like post-George Floyd, giving in to the masses of people that were saying crazy shit like defund the police.
Like, what are you saying?
Like, do you know where this leads?
You're saying defund the police.
Like, no money?
Take away the money for the police.
When we're saying defund the police, we mean defund the police.
Like, oh, great.
Until you need them.
Like, what the fuck?
Do you have an arsenal in your house?
Do you know how to fend off armed thugs?
Do you know how to do that?
No.
What are you talking about?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll tell you there's a few people to break into your house and steal everything and kill you.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if there's no cops, no one's going to do anything about it.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I don't think...
I mean, I think a lot of people...
I think that's a very small group that say that.
joe rogan
It's a thing to say.
They don't believe it.
It's a thing to say.
And if they do believe it, they haven't thought it through.
But it's this thing that you say so that people know that you're on the right team.
jessica kirson
I understand that completely.
I mean, I've always wanted to ask you this.
Do you care?
This is such a general question.
Do you care what people say about you?
joe rogan
You can't care what people say about you.
jessica kirson
Well, people do care, but do you care?
joe rogan
I mean, look, it's not nice if people say mean things about you, but you don't have to read them.
jessica kirson
Right, because I don't read it.
I always wonder if you read it or not.
joe rogan
No, it's not good for you.
jessica kirson
It's not.
joe rogan
No, especially when there's a concerted effort to slander you.
There's an obvious concerted effort to attack.
You'd be a fool to read things during the times of heavy cancellation attacks.
You'd be a fool to read that.
They're literally trying to affect other people's opinions about you.
Are you going to let them affect your opinion too?
Are you going to let them change your mood?
Like, you should know who you are, and that's hard, right?
It's because you change all the time.
You're always in a state of flux and hopefully in a state of growth, but, you know, your mood changes based on the amount of stress and pressure you're under and your obligations, the amount of sleep.
So you're not a constant static thing that's, like, this is a steel cup.
This steel cup is always going to be a steel cup.
No, you're all kinds of different things.
Look at you.
You improved your life.
You got off the drugs.
Quit taking Ambien.
You lost a shitload of weight.
You're changing.
You're constantly in a state.
So knowing who you are at all times is hard.
It's complicated.
But you've got to kind of have a base understanding of who you are.
And I think that's generally based on some kind of a discipline.
You have to have some kind of a discipline.
Whether it's yoga or meditation or some sort of a ritualistic type of exercise or something.
You need something where you're pushing yourself and you're testing yourself and you're feeling some discomfort so you know yourself.
If you don't do that, you're in real trouble.
And if you don't do that and then you also read other people's opinions about you, you're in real trouble.
jessica kirson
Very big trouble.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that's the answer.
I'm aware when people are mad at me, but no, I don't read it.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I think that's a very good decision.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
I find out about enough of it without reading about it.
I'm reluctant to adopt that position with the news.
Because I've thought about it sometimes.
Sometimes in the morning on the toilet, I'm just reading the news until my legs go numb.
And I'm like, what am I doing?
Do I really need this much news?
jessica kirson
I don't do it.
I don't look at the news and I don't watch the news.
I can't.
Because I think it's self-destructive.
joe rogan
In a way.
jessica kirson
I'm hurting myself when I do that.
I don't need to look at it.
If I need to know something, someone will tell me.
joe rogan
I think that too, but in a way, I feel like as a comic and as a person who talks a lot about things that are happening in the world, I kind of have at least some sort of an obligation to be informed.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Although Jamie's almost always informed anyway, and he lets me know when something's really fucked up.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
When something's really fucked up, I'll oftentimes find out from Jamie.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jamie's at the forefront.
unidentified
Yeah.
jessica kirson
That's true.
joe rogan
He's an internet kid.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
He knows the internet.
It's just one of those things where you have to manage your diet in terms of what you take in mentally, just like you have to manage your diet physically, like your body, what you eat.
You have to manage what you fucking think about.
You can't just fill it up with junk, you know?
jessica kirson
Yeah, I just know people that like, you know, they'll get accused of things or they'll, people will try to quote unquote cancel them or, you know, put stuff out about them because I've had stuff put out about me.
I know where I stand and who I am as a person, so I've learned to not get so affected by those things because I know who I am.
I'm very firm in who I am as a person and as a soul, so I don't let it affect me.
But years ago, before I did so much work on myself, I would have been crushed and fucking bedridden because I wasn't so secure with who I am as a person now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen people really lose their shit over some minor stuff.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
Or criticism or, you know.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, you gotta be able to take that.
jessica kirson
To be in this business?
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you can't dwell on it.
jessica kirson
No.
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
You can't or get out because they go after you, especially when you're successful.
Forget it.
You're fucking...
joe rogan
I think my feeling on all this stuff that's going on about even cancel culture, like what people are talking about as cancel culture...
It's people realizing that they have the ability to affect things around them, especially if they act in groups.
Now, I'm not saying it's good, but when people realize that they can organize a campaign to attack a politician or attack a celebrity or attack someone who they feel like is deserving of that and then they spend a lot of time online doing that.
I'm not saying it's good, but it's fascinating.
It's fascinating because it's a never-before-available portal for expressing yourself.
And I think, just like everything else in life, there's this bad aspect of things that happen, and then there's a correction that may at least potentially be good.
And I think that way when I think of all this cancel culture shit and all this criticism stuff and all the chaos and the infighting between the right and the left and the fucking battle for control of the government.
All of that stuff.
When I look at all that stuff I say this is a strange time for the Processing of information, the distribution of information, it's the Wild West, and no one knows what the fuck to do, you know?
And there's a lot of people that are trying to apply traditional models to how to handle things today, and it's not working.
Like, here's the thing, there's so much cultural shifting happening on the internet, but nobody controls the internet.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
That's what's so crazy.
So this, like, for the first time in the history of human beings, Regular peep just people people who got a YouTube channel who get a fucking Twitter page who get this have a massive say a Massive say crazy right in the way people feel and think about things I think ultimately that's going to be a good thing,
but we have rough water ahead That's what's going on and all the people that are calling for censorship You're only calling for censorship for people that don't agree with you But there's gonna be people that don't agree with you and if they get the fucking reins, then that shit comes back around at you.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
And that is how dictators form.
That's how they take control of governments.
Censorship is fucking dangerous because it's a mental form of dictatorship.
You're deciding what people can and can't do.
And you're deciding it based on your own ideology, and how do I know if you've examined it?
How do I know if you're introspective?
How do I know if you've done the work?
How do I know if you've, like, been honest about yourself, about your failures and your successes and your kindness and your weakness, your strengths, your flaws?
How do I know?
I don't fucking know.
But I do know this, if you want to censor people, most likely you haven't.
Most likely you haven't done the work.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
And this is where we find ourselves, with Elon Musk about to pop up.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I saw that.
joe rogan
Apparently it's going down.
unidentified
It happened.
Oh, shit!
What?!
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
jamie vernon
The press release has been announced.
joe rogan
Elon Musk just bought Twitter.
We got a movie star type of a superhero.
It's like a movie.
Like if you had a movie and there was a guy who was like a hero in the movie who happened to be a billionaire, does wild shit, like makes his own rockets and drills under the city and electric cars and then buys Twitter.
jessica kirson
That's fucking insane!
joe rogan
Elon Musk agrees to buy Twitter in a $44 billion deal.
Agreement to take social media network private marks the close of dramatic courtship.
Here's why that's going to be interesting.
jessica kirson
Yeah, tell me.
I need to hear what you think.
joe rogan
He believes that free speech is important, and not just important, vital for a democracy, for a functioning democracy.
And I agree with that.
And what's interesting about this is, we found out some things about Twitter, and one of the things they do is shadow ban people.
So they make it so that your content, whatever you put out, has less impact.
It has less engagement.
They limit your ability to express yourself.
They ban accounts.
And they ban accounts if the account says something that they don't agree with.
If the account says something that violates what they believe is a...
Do you know you can't deadname someone?
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
You know, like Bruce Jenner was Bruce Jenner his whole life.
And then he became Caitlyn Jenner.
And if you call Caitlyn by that other name, you're dead naming her.
And they'll ban you.
jessica kirson
They'll ban you for life.
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
They'll ban you for life.
So me even saying his name as a name, there's nothing wrong with that name.
It's how he won the Olympics.
That was the name of the guy on the Wheaties box, right?
That was the name.
But by me saying that name...
jessica kirson
I never knew that.
joe rogan
People write articles when I do it.
Like, oh, he's dead-naming her.
You're talking like you're in a cult, okay?
I'm saying a fucking name, and it was a name that someone used for a long time.
It's not meant in any way, shape, or form to be disrespectful.
jessica kirson
Wow.
joe rogan
That will get you banned for life from Twitter.
That's crazy ideological shit.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what that is.
jessica kirson
That is nuts.
joe rogan
That's cult shit.
jessica kirson
Nuts.
joe rogan
Megan Murphy.
Do you know who she is?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
A feminist commentator and a friend of mine who's been on the podcast before.
She got banned from Twitter because she was in an argument with someone about transgender access to women's spaces.
I think it was around the time.
Was it about the guy who became a woman and then kept his dick in balls and wanted to get him waxed?
Was that the person in Canada?
Because she's from Canada.
There was some crazy...
Anyway, point is, in this argument she goes, a man is never a woman though.
This is what she says.
This is her opinion as a woman.
You can't say, you're a dick and balls, and then I become a woman, and now you have to say that I'm a woman.
And she's saying, no, a man is never a woman.
This is what she's saying.
jessica kirson
So that's her opinion.
joe rogan
It's her opinion.
And it's, you know, obviously in this day and age, that's a controversial opinion, but I believe she deserves the ability to express it, and I believe people have the ability, or deserve the ability, rather, to refute it.
And to argue and make a better argument against that.
And that's what discourse is all about.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
But meanwhile they banned her from Twitter for life.
For saying that.
They banned her from Twitter.
They banned Megan Murphy from Twitter for saying that.
jessica kirson
I don't think that's okay.
joe rogan
It makes no sense.
It makes no sense.
unidentified
At all.
joe rogan
She's a valuable, interesting person who has a great perspective and she's very wise.
And she has good points.
And we're missing out on those good points.
You have to get it from her podcast or you get it from her Instagram.
But you can't get it from Twitter anymore because they decided that during that conversation she crossed the line.
That's fucked.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
That's just fucked.
I mean, whether I agree, disagree or anything, I believe that she has a right to say it.
And I don't think that you should be banned from Twitter for saying what you want to say.
joe rogan
No, you shouldn't be.
jessica kirson
And I feel that there should be, you know, like people should agree, disagree, and there should be a conversation.
joe rogan
There should be a conversation.
jessica kirson
This is America.
joe rogan
Also, this ability to shadow ban people has to be exposed.
jessica kirson
Right.
That happens on TikTok.
Do you remember that clip you just saw?
joe rogan
Yes.
jessica kirson
Where I said I should be...
It was about me and my body and how I felt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
It was taken down and I was put on probation.
joe rogan
Well, TikTok is rough with that.
jessica kirson
It's the roughest.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I think they don't want anything that interrupts ad revenue and anything that gets them...
jessica kirson
Can someone buy TikTok and please help with that?
joe rogan
Maybe you want to buy TikTok next.
jessica kirson
Jesus.
joe rogan
But maybe the Chinese won't sell.
Maybe if they sell it, it'll be like one of them deals, like you think you bought it, but there's nothing in it.
jessica kirson
I doubt someone's going to sell.
They're not going to sell TikTok.
They're really the worst.
joe rogan
TikTok's the worst.
jessica kirson
I can't believe, I didn't think they were going to, that was going to happen with him on Twitter.
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Apparently it was really close yesterday, and I had heard this morning that it was probably going to happen, but the fact that it's now announced, that's fucking amazing.
Look, it'll change everything.
And I wonder how quickly it is before Donald Trump's back.
jamie vernon
I already saw the thing.
He said he's not going to come back, even if Elon bought it.
I didn't see a reason why, but that's...
joe rogan
Oh, I'll tell you exactly why.
Because of his truth social media.
Why are we playing around with this Twitter shit?
We'll be on truth social.
jessica kirson
Is that big?
joe rogan
That's Donald Trump's social media platform.
jessica kirson
But is it big?
joe rogan
The biggest.
jessica kirson
Is it?
joe rogan
It's...
The best.
It's the biggest.
The biggest of all time.
They say that Twitter's not as big.
Donald Trump says, I'm not going back to Twitter, even with Elon Musk taking over.
Donald, reconsider.
Can you imagine the fucking tweet?
I mean, look, do you want to win or not, Donald?
jessica kirson
It would be huge.
joe rogan
Do you want to fucking win?
jessica kirson
Is he running again?
joe rogan
Of course he's going to run again.
jessica kirson
Do you think so?
joe rogan
Of course he's going to run again.
How much do you want to bet?
jessica kirson
I don't know.
How old would he be?
joe rogan
80,000 years old.
How much do you want to bet?
How much do you bet?
jessica kirson
I don't think he's going to.
joe rogan
Let's make a bet.
jessica kirson
Let's make a bet.
I don't know.
You're so much more loaded than I am.
What do you want to bet?
50 bucks.
Of course.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
50 bucks.
jessica kirson
I don't think he's going to run again.
joe rogan
That's like a meal.
jessica kirson
That's a shitty meal.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's like a sandwich.
jamie vernon
75 right now.
joe rogan
75. Yeah, he's 150,000 years old.
jessica kirson
So he would be, what, 77?
Wait.
joe rogan
Yeah, 77, which is younger than Biden.
But he's got a lot more energy than Biden.
jessica kirson
Oh, shit, a lot more.
joe rogan
Biden's terrifying.
When Biden is getting off stage and trying to shake hands that aren't even there...
jessica kirson
I feel like his hand's going to fall off when he shakes.
joe rogan
He gets off stage and just turns like...
jessica kirson
The person's going to walk away with his hand.
Sometimes I wonder if his whole hand's going to fall off.
joe rogan
There's no one to shake his hand.
That's my point.
He's trying to shake people's hands and they're not there.
You haven't seen this?
jessica kirson
I have.
I saw it.
joe rogan
He just turns around and he puts his hand out.
jessica kirson
Vinnie Brand.
joe rogan
From the Stress Factory?
jessica kirson
Yeah, he made a video of him going up to shake his hand.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's like, what are we doing?
We've got to get him out of there.
They should have someone.
Listen.
Kamala Harris is not the one, but someone should represent the United States.
Like, to be able to talk.
Look, he turns.
And no one's there.
Where do I go?
jessica kirson
I feel bad.
This is fucking insane!
joe rogan
He's got two more years on the job.
This is insane.
I mean, I think probably it was accelerated by whatever the fuck they gave him to get through the debates.
I bet they had him cranked up on Adderall.
jessica kirson
Has he fallen a lot?
joe rogan
Yeah, he fell on the way up the stairs once.
Remember that?
jessica kirson
So maybe he has the Chevy Chase.
I mean, not that he's mean, but he's just a little out of it.
joe rogan
He had brain surgery.
You know that, right?
jessica kirson
He did?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Serious brain surgery.
jessica kirson
I had no idea.
joe rogan
He had like a Widowmaker type aneurysm.
And they had to take the top of his fucking head off.
They take the top of his skull off.
jessica kirson
When did that happen?
joe rogan
They have to drain his head.
And most people don't survive.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Before he was vice president.
jessica kirson
Holy shit!
joe rogan
That was a long time ago.
Yeah, he's had major brain surgery.
jessica kirson
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think he's had two strokes.
No, I'm not joking.
jessica kirson
Why are you laughing?
joe rogan
You're a terrible person.
jessica kirson
Look at me just laughing.
I'm a comic, Joe.
What the fuck?
Because basically he's had a lobotomy and he's president.
You're telling me he's had all these brain surgeries, strokes.
Look at this.
joe rogan
He later required two brain surgeries for aneurysms, one which had already broken and another which had the potential to break.
The surgery saved his life.
He initially had common physical effects of strokes such as facial droop.
Following six months of recovery, he was cleared to return to work.
The aneurysm changed how Biden viewed his daily activities.
Now, more than 30 years later, he will soon be inaugurated as the 46th president.
jamie vernon
So he was unconscious for five hours?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not good either.
Yeah, it's a form of stroke with a high fatality rate, it says.
But it's a serious one.
He talked about it in a video where they literally, like, take the top of your fucking head off.
jessica kirson
All right, so the president is the scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz, but it's okay.
All right, so 50 bucks.
I don't think...
unidentified
Stop.
jessica kirson
If you do that one more time, I'm gonna kill you.
joe rogan
Stick that fucking thing back up like Frankenstein.
That's so crazy.
jessica kirson
I don't think Trump's gonna run again.
joe rogan
50 bucks is mine.
I'm gonna spend a Joe List sandwich shop.
Next time I'm in New York, I get a few sandwiches.
unidentified
Joe DeRosa!
joe rogan
Did I say Joe List?
Did I say Joe List?
That's how much spot I've been smoking.
Joe DeRosa.
What is it called?
Joey Roses?
unidentified
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Joey Roses sandwich shop.
jessica kirson
I love Joe DeRosa.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
jessica kirson
Love him.
joe rogan
He makes a great sandwich.
jessica kirson
Amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looks good on Instagram.
jessica kirson
I eat them whole.
joe rogan
Like a seal.
jessica kirson
I do like that rabbit.
I'm not kidding.
joe rogan
That rabbit.
jessica kirson
I just picture those two hind legs.
joe rogan
This is the most disturbing.
jessica kirson
What?
joe rogan
Komodo dragon eating a monkey.
Yeah, because the monkeys, they grab at things, like people.
jessica kirson
Was the monkey alive?
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The monkey's alive.
jessica kirson
Was it screaming?
joe rogan
It happens all the time.
jessica kirson
Was it screaming?
joe rogan
I'm sure it did for a while.
But it's a common thing.
jessica kirson
Why?
joe rogan
Komodo dragons eat a lot of monkeys.
jessica kirson
They do?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I knew you were gonna bring it up!
unidentified
Sorry.
jessica kirson
Look at this.
joe rogan
So see him screaming?
unidentified
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, the music's not necessary, because there's no sound of the actual thing, but, like, I mean, the monkey's fucked, because the monkey's like a thinking creature, right?
unidentified
You know what?
jessica kirson
I understand why you hate those things.
joe rogan
I fucking hate those things.
jessica kirson
That's evil.
joe rogan
They are, well, they just, they're remorseless, soulless, I mean, look, they don't give a fuck about their own babies.
They certainly don't give a fuck about that monkey, and they're all just gonna try to tear it apart.
Oh!
jessica kirson
Look at its tail swinging around.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's aware that this is happening, and then there's no getting out.
I mean, the amount of force that those things have, imagine if you were as small as a little monkey like that, and you felt that thing clamping down.
So look at this one swallowing this deer.
It's a goat?
Look at that, swallowing that goat.
I mean, what they can do in terms of like...
jessica kirson
That looks like me secretively eating when I was out of control.
No, at a buffet, I'll eat a salad.
I don't eat in public in front of people.
I'll dip the salad in the dressing.
But at home, look at that thing.
It's like, hello?
joe rogan
A lot of videos of them.
Buffets are rude to fat people.
It's rude to have all you can eat.
That is rude.
It's so crazy, because you're just letting a person eat.
Use self-control.
I feel like these monkeys are like trapped there so that we could film this video.
jessica kirson
Did you just see it run to him?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like he knows that these monkeys are going to be there.
What are you doing with this?
unidentified
I was trying to read the comments to see if somebody had some insight.
joe rogan
I think they're all just too busy jacking off.
jessica kirson
Look.
joe rogan
I think they probably either drug the monkey or I think they do it this way.
jessica kirson
Oh my god, look at that.
Look.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually in captivity.
Because it seems like it.
It seems too convenient that they just happen to be there over and over again when this thing's eating monkeys.
jamie vernon
Who's going to be that comfortable to be that close with a camera to the Polo Dragon that's hungry?
joe rogan
Exactly.
jamie vernon
Get the fuck away from this.
jessica kirson
They probably got them high.
joe rogan
They're such a creepy lizard.
There was one point in time where I lived in this house that had a courtyard, and I was thinking of sealing the courtyard in and getting a crocodile monitor.
You know what a crocodile monitor is?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
And I would just feed it rabbits and watch it there.
I thought about that for like a whole week.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought about having my own Jurassic Park in my house.
jessica kirson
I can understand that.
joe rogan
But I didn't want to, like, kill rabbits like that.
Like, let the rabbit just watch the rabbit get jacked.
That's a crocodile monitor.
You could buy them as pets, which is really weird.
Go to that one in the corner with the yellow spots.
Yeah.
That's what it looks like.
jessica kirson
Oh, right.
I know what those are.
That's very cool looking.
joe rogan
If I had, like, a cunty mammal population, I'd be like, you don't want to just keep killing rabbits like that.
jessica kirson
Whoa.
That's cute.
joe rogan
Because if you're on team mammal and you're constantly feeding mammals to team reptile, you would feel like a little bit of a traitor.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
I don't know if you'd want to see little rabbits getting mauled.
joe rogan
I'd want to see it a few times.
I don't know how many times, though.
Not enough to keep the crocodile monitor alive.
You know, that's the thing I think probably happened to Florida Everglades pythons.
Is that some asshole like me just had one and thought it was cool.
It has friends over.
jessica kirson
Do you watch, man?
joe rogan
I'm going to feed him a rat.
And then after a while, they're like, I'm tired of buying rats.
I'm just going to take this fucking thing and throw it in the backyard.
jessica kirson
What's the craziest thing you ever ate?
Because you've eaten some weird shit.
joe rogan
I ate a lot of stuff when I was hosting Fear Factor.
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I ate tomato hornworms.
I ate a Madagascar hissing cockroach.
I ate sheep's eyeballs.
jessica kirson
Oh, my God!
unidentified
I don't know how you did that.
jessica kirson
How did you do that?
joe rogan
I had a rocky cave spider.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, I ate...
jessica kirson
I know I keep saying, oh my god, but I mean, honestly, how you ate an eyeball, I don't...
joe rogan
Yeah, it was nasty.
It wasn't good.
But you would eat an eyeball if you were hungry.
jessica kirson
No, I wouldn't.
joe rogan
It's basically just some kind of protein.
jessica kirson
I don't know if I would.
I'm not kidding.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
If you're starving?
unidentified
An eyeball?
joe rogan
If you're starving?
jessica kirson
If I was starving, I guess I would have to.
unidentified
You would.
joe rogan
People eat people when they're hungry.
jessica kirson
But you weren't starving.
joe rogan
No.
jessica kirson
And you ate it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did it for the show.
jamie vernon
Michael Yeo.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I mean Michael Yeo.
jessica kirson
I love him.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is...
Michael Yeo was in episode one of Fear Factor.
jessica kirson
Look at him.
Look how young he is.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a DJ. Okay.
You don't have to see this.
He was a DJ in Miami, I think, at the time.
jessica kirson
I'm doing his podcast this week.
joe rogan
Tell us an eye.
jessica kirson
I will.
I love him.
An eyeball.
Did you ever, like, throw up?
I mean, did you ever get sick?
joe rogan
I only threw up once from Fear Factor, and that was watching it at home for whatever reason.
I never threw up on the set, but I was watching it at home, and there was this girl, and she was eating worms, and she kept...
Throwing them up in the glass and then trying to eat them again.
And I don't know if it was the close-up, the fact that, you know, they had like a really high-resolution close-up on it.
I'm watching on a big screen TV and I don't know what it was.
But I literally ran in the sink and threw up in the sink.
And I never threw up on the set.
jessica kirson
Isn't that incredible that you were watching it on TV and threw up and you had never threw up from doing anything, from eating anything?
joe rogan
I got super used to throw up.
Super used to things that were disgusting.
The point where it didn't bother me.
People could throw up right in front of me.
And I'd be like, you alright?
Like it didn't make me go.
Like when I was in high school, like everybody remembers, if you were in school and someone threw up, everybody wanted to throw up.
Everybody would run away from the throw-up, like, oh my god!
jessica kirson
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
That doesn't work on me anymore.
Like, you could throw up right in front of me, and I would just go, hmm.
jessica kirson
Of course, from being on that show.
Was that your favorite TV show that you ever worked on?
joe rogan
It was my favorite financially.
jessica kirson
Of course.
joe rogan
Favorite for that.
Because it gave me, that was for real, like, it was fun to do.
Because the people were nice, like the people I worked with.
But it gave me fuck you money.
And that was the best part about that show.
It was a good job.
And then it gave me money that I didn't have to think about money.
I could just go and just do stand-up.
And that's right after that I started the podcast.
jessica kirson
It's amazing.
joe rogan
I started the podcast within a year or two of Fear Factor being done.
jessica kirson
I watched it constantly, that show.
I loved it.
joe rogan
I thought that fucking show was going to be canceled immediately.
jessica kirson
You did?
joe rogan
That's why I signed up to do it.
I was trying to do a sitcom.
I had a development...
I had just gotten off of news radio, and then I had a development deal to do a sitcom, and then NBC came to me and said, Hey, we got this thing.
We'd really like you to do it.
And I'm pretty sure I was high for the rehearsal or for the interview.
Because it wasn't an audition.
They just wanted to talk to me.
jessica kirson
Right.
Which is great.
joe rogan
And I was like, what are you talking about?
You're going to sick dogs on people?
And that was during the day where I got high a lot.
That was like my almost everyday high days.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
During the early days of Fear Factor.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was always getting baked.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when I showed up, I was mocking it.
I was like, what are you talking about?
And that almost cost me the show.
Like, they were going to go with someone who took it seriously.
They thought I didn't take it seriously enough.
jessica kirson
You were just like, what do you mean?
joe rogan
I just was laughing.
I was laughing.
They're going to stick dogs on people and make them eat dicks.
Like, this is so crazy.
jessica kirson
Make them eat dicks.
Make them eat dicks on TV. Yeah, which they literally did.
joe rogan
They had a drink cum.
jessica kirson
What kind of cum?
joe rogan
Donkey.
Donkey cum.
jessica kirson
I would fucking die.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had to drink a whole beer stein full of it.
Like this much.
There's a video of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's one of two times where I came to work and I found out what they had to do and I go, hey, you guys are going too far.
Only one of two times ever.
The other time was they were riding bulls.
People had to ride bulls.
And I was like, yo, these are bulls.
jessica kirson
Yeah, that's dangerous.
joe rogan
The stunt guy was like, don't worry about it, boo, these are stunt bulls.
I go, stunt bulls?
I go, does that bull know he's a stunt bull?
I bet he doesn't.
I bet he thinks he's a fucking bull.
Bull with full bull hormones.
He's just a bull.
I mean, maybe he's not...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
That's how much...
Look at that.
That's how much cum they had to drink.
And the other one's piss.
So the one on the right is donkey piss, and that one's donkey cum.
jessica kirson
Well, donkey piss is like heaven compared to...
joe rogan
The Lixir of the Gods.
Yeah, but look at these guys.
Plugging their notes.
And the girls were trying to get them to throw up, and so the girls were making throw-up noises next to them.
This guy's just chugging jizz.
So that's what got the show canceled.
jessica kirson
Guess what?
joe rogan
What?
jessica kirson
That's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
I was right there.
Right there.
Right up close.
jessica kirson
And the fact that he did it...
unidentified
And then they threw it up.
joe rogan
They got to throw it up in buckets, which is great.
And so, look at this.
They're just chucking up cum.
And these donkeys just feeling real bad about that.
jessica kirson
That's what got it canceled?
joe rogan
Yes.
jessica kirson
That episode?
joe rogan
That episode got it canceled.
Because it got leaked on...
jessica kirson
Look at her.
That's a sexual scene right there.
100%.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
jessica kirson
The producers did...
Because that's the porn I watch.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
With the mascara running down the face.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I like that.
When a woman looks like she's gonna die from giving head.
Because my mom wasn't around.
So that turns me on.
joe rogan
Do you think they wear mascara that runs easy on purpose?
unidentified
Yes.
Because it's a look.
jessica kirson
I know they do.
joe rogan
It's a look, right?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
And then they just start gagging.
jessica kirson
Do you have choices with mascara?
So that's a choice.
You know what's gonna happen.
Of course!
And it runs immediately.
It's literally like, let me find the kind that...
They find the kind that immediately runs.
It's not even like...
I'm sure.
joe rogan
They probably missed it.
They probably put something in your eye.
You know?
Chopped onions in front of you or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
jessica kirson
For sure.
They squirt mustard in your eye.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird, the different kinds of porn.
Because if you go to Pornhub or any of those places now, The number of stepmom videos is off the charts.
jessica kirson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, we're in a stepmom phase.
jessica kirson
Yeah, it's major.
joe rogan
And I'm wondering if this was triggered by the pandemic, where a bunch of people had to be home.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
Like, you couldn't be out there in the wild, and maybe you had to quit college, because now college is remote, so you come home, and you're around your stepmom and your dad.
jessica kirson
That's really funny.
You should make a bit about that.
unidentified
I think that's it.
jessica kirson
It's very funny.
joe rogan
Don't you think that's it?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really true.
joe rogan
Let's find out if this is true.
jessica kirson
Boring!
joe rogan
The rise of stepmom porn, does that sync up with the pandemic?
I wonder if anybody's done a study.
It's always been around as a premise, but it's overwhelming.
jessica kirson
And stepdad.
I saw that the other day.
joe rogan
Stepsister, too.
jessica kirson
A lot of stepbrothers.
joe rogan
Step everything.
It's forbidden.
You're not supposed to fuck your mom.
It's forbidden.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what a lot of porn is.
It's like forbidden stuff.
Ooh, can't believe she's doing that.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I can't even Google that.
jessica kirson
Yeah, housekeeper.
joe rogan
Yes, it's a lot of housekeeper.
Yeah, gardener.
jessica kirson
Nanny.
joe rogan
Yeah, the pool boy.
jamie vernon
There is a lot of coronavirus porn.
I don't know if you know this.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jessica kirson
Really?
unidentified
I'm sure.
jamie vernon
People are wearing masks and the porn to be like, you know, I don't know.
joe rogan
To be safe.
jessica kirson
That's so not hot to me.
Yeah.
It's like wearing a condom.
Like, ugh.
joe rogan
Yeah, condom porn's gotta go.
jessica kirson
I can't.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
There was a law they passed in California for a while that you had to wear condoms in porn.
jessica kirson
I remember that.
joe rogan
Which is hilarious.
Because, like, you know, what are you trying to say?
Well, we're gonna be the moral authority for pornography.
If you really cared, you wouldn't let them do it at all.
jessica kirson
I'm sorry.
First of all, if you're going to do porn, you've got to risk getting diseases.
Get out of here.
joe rogan
You're not even taking the kind of risks I'm taking.
You're a pro?
jessica kirson
I'm taking a risk of my partner finding the porn on my computer.
You better not wear a condom.
joe rogan
Get out of here with fucking condoms.
It's nonsense.
jessica kirson
It's so not eternal.
I can't...
joe rogan
It is gross, though, that humans give each other diseases through sex.
jessica kirson
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
It's got to be one of those things where nature's like, there's too much fucking...
Like, that's probably where all that stuff came from, right?
jessica kirson
Of course.
It's disgusting, but it's worth it sometimes.
Not a lot, but it's worth it very few times.
It's worth it.
joe rogan
The thing is we got so smart that we stayed alive.
We're not supposed to live this long.
So we're supposed to be so horny because we need to fuck a lot and make a lot of people because most of them are going to get eaten by snakes.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
That's really.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's really what it is.
It's mostly like crocodile monitors and alligator fucking attacks.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're all eating kids.
jessica kirson
The free porn sucks now, by the way.
You got to pay for it.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
What do you pay?
jessica kirson
$7,500 a month.
joe rogan
Is that from just the last money?
unidentified
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I made a ton this week.
No, there's that site Brazzers.
This is what I've been talking about all week.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's a good site.
joe rogan
So you pay for Brazzers?
jessica kirson
Well, I just joined.
joe rogan
Do you worry about credit card fraud when you go...
I mean, I would imagine...
jessica kirson
I don't care anymore.
I'm willing to lose my...
I'll risk it all.
I'm willing to risk my entire life savings to watch some good porn.
joe rogan
So free porn is just not the way to go.
jessica kirson
I just think there's so many ads now.
I click on something and I'm like being, I don't know what's happening.
unidentified
There's like, oh yeah, come on, call me.
jessica kirson
Just leave me the fuck alone.
Yeah, I can't.
I can't.
Fuck my pussy, come on.
God, what is happening?
Who am I talking to?
joe rogan
I think that's how a lot of those gals make a living now.
They do stuff in front of a camera.
jessica kirson
I know, but that's never turned me on.
I get why it turns men on.
I get it.
joe rogan
I think it's probably the interactive aspect of it.
jessica kirson
I totally get it.
But as me, as a woman, it doesn't turn me on.
joe rogan
I get it.
I hear you.
jessica kirson
It just doesn't.
I could never talk to someone live that I don't know.
joe rogan
It's just weird.
But all of it's weird.
jessica kirson
I'd be like, hi Karen, how are you?
I just would feel so uncomfortable.
But I understand why men want that.
joe rogan
It's got to be really dangerous for those girls.
Because you'd imagine a lot of men would get very attached to them.
jessica kirson
I have friends who are making tens of thousands of dollars from sending a pair of underwear.
You have no idea.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
It's comics.
joe rogan
And it's underwear, huh?
jessica kirson
Anything.
It's insane.
A picture.
A picture of something.
Something they've worn.
They're making so much money right now from OnlyFans or just a relationship.
Not a relationship, I mean an internet relationship of sending a picture or an article of clothing or just something they've worn.
Anything.
joe rogan
So how does that work?
If someone's on OnlyFans and someone wants to buy underwear from them, do you know who this person is?
Do you know their name that you're sending the underwear to?
It's not anonymous.
So you know, hey, Mike's kind of creepy.
He's buying underwear off this lady online.
She knows now that he's buying underwear off of her.
But they know each other now.
So now he's buying articles of clothing and like, let me get your socks.
Let me get some stinky socks.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
That's weird shit.
jessica kirson
Right.
But he could pay $5,000.
joe rogan
But my question is like, where does this go?
When I'm seeing that kind of interaction with two human beings, I'm like, does this escalate?
Does it die off?
jessica kirson
I guess it dies off sometimes and it ends up becoming more and more and more money.
And I know people who've bought a condo from it.
unidentified
Wow.
jessica kirson
Now, this is something I wouldn't do.
joe rogan
You don't have to clarify.
jessica kirson
Right.
unidentified
Maybe you would.
joe rogan
Things go sideways?
jessica kirson
All right, it is how I brought a house.
But let's just...
My socks with the smell of my ass are very a hot commodity right now.
joe rogan
Put it together in a plastic bag.
jessica kirson
Yeah, in a Ziploc.
joe rogan
Leaving the sun for a while.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let it heat up.
jessica kirson
From a microwave.
But let's not get into it.
No.
Listen, I have friends who are making a ton.
But I wouldn't do it.
joe rogan
Unless you needed it.
jessica kirson
Unless I was still a fat fuck.
Because I'd need to buy food.
unidentified
Um...
jessica kirson
No, it makes sense to me, but yes, it is scary.
I don't know.
I think sometimes it would escalate to a weird place.
And plus, this is the thing, Joe.
We do live shows.
joe rogan
Right.
That's my point.
jessica kirson
And there's no security.
joe rogan
Right.
jessica kirson
And if I'm in the middle of Ohio doing a show, who knows if this guy's going to show up?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I mean, there's no one's being vetted.
joe rogan
I know some gals that have had some real problems with internet guys online.
jessica kirson
That scares me.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they're doing a show and this guy just shows up to a show and then maybe shows up to another show that's like two states away and you're like, oh boy.
And then maybe they know what hotel you're staying at.
jessica kirson
They could easily know what hotel you're staying at.
unidentified
Easily.
joe rogan
They might be able to talk the guy at the counter saying that you're their girlfriend.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
They want to surprise you.
You never know.
jessica kirson
Oh, I know stories of that where they show up to your room and knock on the door.
joe rogan
Especially if there's some fucking idiot that's working the counter and they don't know any better.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fuck.
jessica kirson
Yeah, so it's like, yeah, you're getting a lot of money, but...
joe rogan
The thing is, like, how long can you do that?
Like, what do you do if you get...
Like, imagine.
Here's the thing.
Imagine you're a girl.
And you sell a lot of pictures of your vagina.
And, you know, you do stuff for money online.
And you're using this to pay your bills, buy a house.
But then you get in a relationship with someone.
And then it gets kind of serious, and you're thinking about getting married.
If you get married, and what if the guy says, hey, I don't think you should be sticking your pussy in front of the camera every night if we're married.
Well then, think about the amount of money she's risking by getting involved in an intimate relationship.
And it might inhibit you from getting closer to somebody.
Because you might think, hey, if this guy, if I get serious with him, and he starts telling me what to do, that I can't do this, I'm going to miss out on, like, I heard as a girl that someone knows who's making 10,000 a month.
jessica kirson
I know someone who's making a lot more than that.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
A lot more.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
There's people making 10,000 a week.
joe rogan
Really?
jessica kirson
Yeah, that's no joke.
joe rogan
10,000 a week?
jessica kirson
Yes.
There's comics that I know.
That's crazy.
Not a lot, but there are some female comics where I have seen their pussy on numerous occasions, and then I go on shows with them, and I'm like, I've seen her pussy.
Like, it feels weird.
joe rogan
On OnlyFans?
jessica kirson
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
So I don't want to have seen her.
unidentified
So you subscribe.
jessica kirson
No.
unidentified
You pay for it.
joe rogan
We don't want to.
unidentified
I don't.
joe rogan
I've never seen it.
You're looking for it.
jessica kirson
No, I'm...
Meaning, I... It is hot.
I'm not going to lie.
It's hot.
But I do feel weird that I'm like on shows with...
Yeah, it does feel weird.
I'm not, because I'm not a guy.
I mean, I'm gay, but I'm not a guy.
unidentified
Right.
jessica kirson
So, I mean, I am gross.
I love porn, and I'm disgusting.
But it is different for me as a woman.
Like, I don't love being on a show with someone where I'm, like, picturing, because I am picturing that.
So I am male that way where I'm just thinking about their pussy the whole time.
joe rogan
And when they're showing you their pussy, is it in an artistic way?
jessica kirson
Well, I'm not.
Like, they're not showing me I've seen pictures and videos because someone showed me.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying, when they're showing that.
unidentified
Right.
jessica kirson
They're fucking themselves with a dildo or showing their asshole and stuff like that.
So they're not getting fucked and stuff.
They're doing stuff to themselves, which is even more like, whoa.
joe rogan
It's all weird.
jessica kirson
And then they're doing comedy.
So I'm like, I'm watching their set and I'm picturing them fucking themselves with a dildo, not listening to one joke.
joe rogan
Not the only one, right?
jessica kirson
Every comic, every male comic that's watching them is picturing the exact same thing.
joe rogan
And so are you getting these images and videos from someone sending them to you?
jessica kirson
Yeah, male comics show me everything.
So male comics that are on the road are constantly showing me women they fuck.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
jessica kirson
They're showing me pictures they get because they think I'm a guy.
They see me as a guy.
So they're always like, hey Jess, check out this fucking pussy this woman just sent me or whatever.
And a lot of times, or they'll be like, should I fuck this girl?
Look what she looks like.
And I'll be like, oh my god, you should totally fuck her.
Like, I'm very much like I, you know, bro out with guys like that.
But I always feel weird because I'm also friends with so many female comics.
So I kind of don't want to see...
joe rogan
Their pussies.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
Well, I just got to put that out there.
Say, hey, those road skanks, bring them over.
jessica kirson
Yeah, those I don't care about.
joe rogan
Those chicks that I have to do shows with?
unidentified
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I don't really want to...
joe rogan
It'll inhibit our conversations.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I don't really want to see...
joe rogan
But the thing is, it's like, if you had to choose between waitressing for like $100 a night or showing your pussy for $100,000 a month.
jessica kirson
Show the puss.
Show it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, what are you going to do?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can get $100,000 a month showing your pussy, you're going to say no?
But that's my question about like a relationship.
Like, if you're one of those girls that does that, I mean, I guess the guy just has to accept it.
jessica kirson
Yeah, or don't be with her.
joe rogan
Yeah, or don't be with her.
But the thing is, maybe there's a guy that's right for you, but he's going to have a problem with that, and you're not going to want to do anything about it, because it's so much money.
jessica kirson
I mean, that's a lot.
Some of these women make so much money, it's insane.
joe rogan
Yeah, which I'm for.
I'm not against this.
jessica kirson
I'm not either.
joe rogan
I'm just putting it out there.
I'm just saying that's a situation.
jessica kirson
I've never been against that.
joe rogan
It's also a situation with work, right?
I read about this one teacher.
She got fired from a job because they found out that she had an OnlyFans page.
And I'm like, huh.
jessica kirson
That's a difficult one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you do about that?
Should you be allowed to?
But like what if you work somewhere and then it becomes an issue?
Like what if you didn't tell anybody?
What if you have an OnlyFans page under a pseudonym and then you work somewhere and then it gets revealed that you have this OnlyFans page and then all the guys start getting your videos.
So the culture and the environment at work becomes weird.
jessica kirson
Right.
I don't know about that.
If you're a teacher...
joe rogan
Right.
If you're a teacher, a teacher's kind of weird because there's kids involved.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
There's development.
But even then, I'm like, hmm, why is that?
I remember one teacher got outed as a former porn star and she got fired.
They found out that she had done porn in the past.
jessica kirson
That's different.
That's in the past.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can still watch it.
That's the problem.
Everything is online.
So it's all available.
So if you used to love to get stuffed on camera.
jessica kirson
Stuffed.
I love that term.
joe rogan
All of your fucking students don't want to respect you because they're dehydrated from jerking off to you all night.
unidentified
You're in detention.
jessica kirson
They'll be like, oh, good.
Can't wait to go to detention.
unidentified
Probably the entire class is jerked off to you.
Right?
joe rogan
If you're a hot teacher that did a porn, every guy watched it.
jessica kirson
Oh, it's so great having a hot teacher.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
It's like the greatest fantasy a man has ever known.
There's hot teachers in college and in high school.
jessica kirson
High school?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Even middle school.
joe rogan
Hot professor with glasses.
jessica kirson
Oh my God, that's my...
joe rogan
Especially if she dresses you down in front of the whole class and you get to apologize to her.
jessica kirson
I just came.
My...
My biggest...
joe rogan
You're a bad boy, Bradley.
jessica kirson
My biggest fantasy is that...
is probably like a teacher.
That whole fucking teacher thing with the glasses and the...
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That's the biggest one?
jessica kirson
That's a big one.
joe rogan
It's right up there.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Like the white button-down shirt, the whole fucking, oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like for guys, it's like a lawyer.
jessica kirson
Like a Catholic school thing.
joe rogan
Teacher, lawyer.
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Lawyer, the whole thing.
That's mine.
joe rogan
It's also like a person in a position of authority.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pantsuit or a, yeah.
joe rogan
Like if Kamala Harris started doing porn.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Well...
You like that?
joe rogan
No, I don't.
But you know what kind of OnlyFans interaction she would have?
jessica kirson
What?
joe rogan
Probably pretty strong.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Oh, she would have a...
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's the biggest earner on OnlyFans?
jessica kirson
I don't know.
Black China.
unidentified
Black...
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
$20 million a month.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
What did you say?
jessica kirson
Do you understand how much money that is?
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
jessica kirson
Can I see a picture of her?
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
This is the lady that's suing Kim Kardashian because she supposedly got her reality show.
There was some shit with, you know, because she had a baby with Rob.
That one.
She makes $20 million a month.
jamie vernon
So, like, I'm looking through this.
jessica kirson
That's what I'm talking about.
These women make so much money.
joe rogan
That's so much money.
jessica kirson
I know.
I'm telling you.
It's insane how much money these women make.
joe rogan
How is that possible?
jamie vernon
Everyone on this list is like the top 15 earners on there.
They're all celebrities, but they maybe made that amount one time in a month.
And then something changed with all of their accounts, it seems like.
It's like Bella Thorne is number two.
She says she's making $11 million a month.
But now her account is free.
So you can't be making that money off of free stuff.
jessica kirson
Well, right.
But they have like...
joe rogan
Who is Bella Thorne?
What does she do?
jamie vernon
Actress, I think.
joe rogan
Cardi B. Cardi B makes nine billion bucks a month.
jessica kirson
Look, monthly subscription, five dollars.
jamie vernon
She only ever posted six times.
joe rogan
Oh, she's only posted six times.
jessica kirson
She made 81 million subscribers.
81 million.
jamie vernon
Tyga, rapper.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
He was posting, like, it says behind the scenes footage.
joe rogan
Seven million dollars a month.
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
But he deleted his account to go to a competitor or something, which, I don't know.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
But look at that shit, though.
$20 for a month.
He costs more than Netflix.
And you get to see, like, behind-the-scenes shit, and he was making seven million bucks a month.
That's crazy.
Okay, hold on.
jessica kirson
Who's Erykah Mina?
joe rogan
Mia Khalifa.
Okay.
Erykah Mina.
They're making a lot of fucking money.
jessica kirson
Who are these people?
jamie vernon
Yeah, a few people have no idea who they are.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
So go to number one.
Go to the number one.
jamie vernon
That was Blac Chyna.
joe rogan
Yeah, I want to see it.
So this is what's insane.
So she charges $19.99.
I like how she's like a business person.
jessica kirson
I know, me too.
joe rogan
I'm not going to charge $20.
I'm going to charge $19.99.
jessica kirson
33 years old, too.
joe rogan
She's made 155 posts.
jessica kirson
That's a lot of posts.
joe rogan
And amassed around...
How many likes on her only translation?
She has 18 million Instagram followers.
jamie vernon
Some of the numbers don't add up to that number at 20 million, which I'm like, okay, well, that's fine.
joe rogan
She has risen to the top of the list in terms of earnings on OnlyFans.
jessica kirson
Is she hot?
What does she look like?
She has to be hot.
joe rogan
She was a stripper, right?
jamie vernon
Maybe.
joe rogan
I mean, she's not unattractive, right?
I couldn't pick her out of a lineup.
jessica kirson
Can we see a picture of her?
joe rogan
She's balling out of control, though.
Oh, she looks great there.
Is that really what she looks like?
She's hot as fuck.
jessica kirson
I mean, that's not hot.
joe rogan
That's a different one.
jessica kirson
Okay.
joe rogan
Okay.
That's why it's so hard to tell with these goddamn pictures.
jessica kirson
Point is, I would assume she does some sick shit on there.
joe rogan
Well, she might look totally different within a year now.
jessica kirson
But it depends what she's doing on there, too.
joe rogan
What are you trying to say, Mom?
jessica kirson
If she's doing some interesting things on there, she's going to get more people to watch.
joe rogan
Foot Freak Mondays.
Fans only.
Link in bio.
unidentified
See?
jessica kirson
Like if she's doing foot shit and...
joe rogan
Foot shit's where the money's at?
jessica kirson
A lot of people are gonna subscribe to see some shit with your feet.
joe rogan
How weird is that?
jessica kirson
Do you get it?
joe rogan
No.
jessica kirson
I don't either.
joe rogan
Not really.
I mean, pretty feet are hot.
jessica kirson
They are hot.
I love pretty feet.
joe rogan
But I don't get where people jerk off their feet.
jessica kirson
Obsessed.
I've had people ask me for pictures of my feet.
I have nice feet, but it's crazy.
joe rogan
I found a magazine with my friends in the woods when we were like 13, and it was Foot Action magazine.
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I talk about it on stage sometimes.
jessica kirson
That is so funny.
joe rogan
It really happened.
Yeah, we found these This was like a bag that someone had stashed in the woods of porns.
Because that's where you'd find porn when I was a kid.
You'd find it in the forest.
Because it was usually some sad married guy who had to go hide in the woods and he had a stash of porn.
But this really did happen.
jessica kirson
That's amazing.
joe rogan
We're going through this fucking magazine and we realized somewhere in the magazine that it's like a fetish magazine.
It looked just like it didn't make any sense.
It's like, where's the sex?
What's happening here?
It got to the end of the magazine and my friend goes, dude, that shit was all just dicks and feet.
jessica kirson
And you were 13. That must have been so weird.
joe rogan
I might have been younger.
I might have been younger.
Because I was living in Florida at the time.
And that was between 11 and 13 I lived in Florida.
And we found that magazine.
jessica kirson
I know.
I mean, of course.
We know comics who are obsessed with feet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I do.
joe rogan
Fitzsimmons is obsessed with feet.
jessica kirson
He is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
He told me that.
joe rogan
He gets worried about it.
He starts sweating.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I know.
He loves feet.
unidentified
Yeah.
jessica kirson
He does.
That's so funny.
I know that.
Yep.
He's like, yeah.
joe rogan
But he's open about it.
Like, it's out there.
jessica kirson
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Do girls have a thing?
Like, a similar thing?
jessica kirson
I'm trying to think.
Like, a weird thing.
I mean, girls love hands.
joe rogan
Hands.
jessica kirson
Yeah?
With men.
I'm trying to think of what...
What else?
I mean, I have a couple of friends who love men's thighs.
joe rogan
Thighs.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Like a big thigh.
I know.
I get that, though.
joe rogan
Yeah?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Trying to think of what else.
But women love men's hands.
joe rogan
Hands.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Like if you're thinking of like, not feet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
It's not a thing for women.
joe rogan
No, weird.
jessica kirson
At all.
joe rogan
At all.
jessica kirson
It's like gross.
Gross.
Gross.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what about people is attractive is very interesting because we know what it is.
We know what an attractive person is.
And it's normal.
We're accustomed to it.
But if you weren't a human and you were watching humans from afar and you were like some other life form, you're like, look at how arbitrary it is.
Like, what they decide is attractive.
Like, why is this shit attractive?
jessica kirson
Why is fake eyelashes?
I just was thinking about that recently.
joe rogan
Where it gets crazy?
Where they look like spiders growing out of your eyes?
jessica kirson
I was thinking, I'm not kidding.
I was like, why are certain things attractive?
Yeah, it's weird.
Because there have been studies about this.
Yes, I'm sure.
Why certain body, like on our face?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Why certain features are, like why are thick eyebrows important?
joe rogan
Right, why is that?
And it didn't used to be for a while.
Remember girls would pluck them and they got them down to like thin little pencil lines.
And then they went back to big bushy eyebrows.
jessica kirson
Right.
And why are thick lips?
Or why are certain noses?
joe rogan
That one's easy.
jessica kirson
Oh, for dick?
joe rogan
Dick and kissing.
jessica kirson
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
Thick lips are a sign of vitality.
You're juicy.
There's a lot going on with you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And also for sucking dick.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Or long eyelashes.
joe rogan
Yeah, the eyelashes thing is strange to me.
And eyeliner is strange because it's so fake.
But it's so prevalent.
It's universally adopted.
Like eyeliner, lipstick.
jessica kirson
Like why cheekbones on a woman?
joe rogan
Why is it so...
jessica kirson
And not like a full face.
I mean, really.
joe rogan
I guess it's like a thing where you're looking for symmetry and the symmetry is present, which means like it's a...
Great representation genetically, but it's strange that we give a fuck about that so much, but that's like there's a root of sexual attraction like Obviously people have types like some people like thin people some people like big people people like all kinds of different heights and All kinds of different hair colors.
That's normal.
jessica kirson
That's interesting too.
joe rogan
That is interesting But there's a there's a general attractive shape from women.
jessica kirson
Yes Definitely.
joe rogan
It seems to indicate that a woman is more fertile and that a woman is better suited to have children.
jessica kirson
Yes.
joe rogan
Just overall.
Wide hips, large boobs.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Big butt.
jessica kirson
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a genetic thing, but the lipstick isn't, the makeup isn't, the fucking eyeshadow isn't.
That's all weird.
jessica kirson
I think part of that is from society and media and- Oh, for sure, but what's the root of it?
I know.
I don't know.
unidentified
But what's the root of it?
joe rogan
It's for sure from media, for sure.
But it's fascinating that it's so adopted that it's pretty much universal.
Like for a girl to walk around with no makeup on, that's a big flex.
Like for a really hot girl that has no makeup on, like she's so hot she doesn't even have to wear makeup.
jessica kirson
I love that though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But isn't that amazing?
It's so prevalent that people wear makeup that when someone doesn't, it's like, wow, she's so bold.
You know, like girls would take photos and put on their Instagram, no filter.
jessica kirson
I know.
unidentified
No filter.
joe rogan
Hashtag no filter.
That's what it really looked like.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you know, she's so hot, she could show you her real face.
jessica kirson
A real face.
I know, it's true.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what it is.
jessica kirson
It's gotten crazy.
These people who have so many filters and so much, I find that so unattractive.
joe rogan
It's weird.
jessica kirson
I really don't, I'm not attracted to that at all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The filler thing is strange.
jessica kirson
Yeah, it really is.
joe rogan
Because you can get to a point where you look like you got stung by bees.
jessica kirson
It's bad.
I mean, some people look really insane now.
It's gotten really bad.
joe rogan
But how many people look good and you just don't know about it?
jessica kirson
What do you mean by that?
joe rogan
How many people are doing it the right way?
Is that a large number?
jessica kirson
No.
I think most people are doing it the wrong way and getting too much done.
That gets very addictive.
The whole surgery, all the procedures.
It's not good.
In my opinion.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, body dysmorphia is real.
jessica kirson
It's bad.
Yeah, it's real.
joe rogan
And we've all seen people with crazy fat lips.
Oh, this thing Jamie sent me.
Son of a bitch.
He sent me this last night.
jessica kirson
What?
joe rogan
No mornings.
He just sends me this.
Out of nowhere.
Just living my life.
He sends me this.
So here we are.
Some woman on the beach.
jessica kirson
Oh.
joe rogan
Is that the craziest thing you've ever seen in your life?
What it is, is a woman who has...
You know how you see a woman who has fake boobs and they seem preposterous?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, this woman has done that with her butt.
And it's so crazy that it looks...
jessica kirson
She has a table.
joe rogan
It sticks so far out.
jessica kirson
You could have a whole meal on her ass.
joe rogan
You know what's weird?
It's like when you're looking at her, she's obviously like very strong.
jessica kirson
Like that lady is- She looks like a bodybuilder.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I bet if she didn't have a fake ass, her ass would be incredible.
But she just went crazy and stuffed whatever's in there.
That looks like, I guess they use implants, which is so crazy because then you're thinking of like, what kind of implants?
Like, what's it made out of?
You have to sit on it all the time?
So you're sitting on your implant all the time?
Because that's not a fat thing.
She doesn't have any fat.
That doesn't look fat.
jessica kirson
She has no fat on her butt.
I mean, she has a tiny, tiny bit of fat.
joe rogan
She looks jacked.
jessica kirson
Jacked.
joe rogan
With a big ol' fake butt.
jessica kirson
So that's a sickness.
joe rogan
Yes.
jessica kirson
Because that's insane what we just looked at.
She has two of your head.
joe rogan
Yeah, she has two of my heads.
jessica kirson
Bigger.
joe rogan
Yeah, bigger than my head, one on each butt cheek.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
That's sad.
If that was my daughter, I'd be so fucking depressed.
jessica kirson
To me, it's incredibly sad.
Because something's horribly wrong with her that she had to do that.
joe rogan
Do you think it starts out with a little bit of this, a little bit of that?
jessica kirson
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Because her face, she probably had a lot done to her face.
Right.
She looks very angry.
joe rogan
This fucking lip thing.
jessica kirson
So she probably had a lot done to her face.
And then she said, oh, let me get this done.
Let me get that done.
And then she started with her ass.
But that was, she looked like everyone that looks at her is pointing her out and laughing and shocked.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think she understands that.
jessica kirson
And she still doesn't probably think she looks good.
joe rogan
I think one of the things that happened with this generation of reality TV stars is you got to see some really positive plastic surgery stories.
Fortunately or unfortunately, right?
Maybe they just got better at it.
But was it Kylie?
Is she the one who had a lot of stuff done?
jessica kirson
I can never remember.
joe rogan
One of them had a big wide face.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And they shrunk it down and changed her.
They did so much to her.
You look at her now, she's stunning.
jessica kirson
I don't know which one to.
I'm so confused.
joe rogan
Is that?
Yeah.
They changed her face.
And so people see that and they go, oh, well, look, that's better.
And they go, well, it definitely works.
You should just go to a good doctor, I guess.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jessica kirson
I'd be so scared to get all that done.
I mean, even if you go to a great doctor.
I feel like a lot of men are getting stuff done now, too.
joe rogan
I'm sure they are.
jessica kirson
Like famous guys.
joe rogan
Like face stuff?
jessica kirson
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, people get scared of changing, you know.
Gravity wins.
You start getting little jowls.
Maybe I'll just tighten this up right here.
jessica kirson
I know, but what if they fuck it up?
Has Elon Musk gotten stuff done?
We just were talking about him.
I mean, his face looks...
joe rogan
He just eats a lot.
No, he fucking sleeps three hours a night.
He's got five different jobs he's working simultaneously.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
He parties a little bit.
jessica kirson
Okay.
joe rogan
The guy is probably not capable of being as healthy as he'd like to be.
jessica kirson
Right.
I get it.
joe rogan
Because he's just so busy.
Do you know how many fucking literal society-changing enterprises that guy's involved in and now another one with reforming Twitter?
jessica kirson
I know.
I guess it is from just being a fucking workaholic and not sleeping.
He doesn't sleep.
joe rogan
He sleeps like on a couch sometimes.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
He doesn't even have a house.
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
He sleeps in other people's houses.
jessica kirson
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
No, I'm not kidding you.
jessica kirson
That's insane.
joe rogan
Oh, he's insane.
Yeah, he could buy whatever fucking house he wants.
But he's like, oh.
He told me it was an attack vector.
It's an attack vector.
I'm like, okay, I guess it is.
If you're a billionaire and you don't even own a fucking house, what are they going to say?
Like, oh, look at you in your fucking mansion.
I don't own a mansion.
And then they got to go, oh, fuck.
He's very wise in that regard.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it is really an attack vector.
And if he really does stay at other people's houses, when he really does do that, That's so fascinating to me.
Sometimes he stays in this little tiny $50,000 house.
He has a little tiny house over by where his rocket factory is, and he stays in this little tiny house.
Yeah.
It's wild!
But hey, you know, he's Elon Musk.
He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
He is our generation's super genius.
He's our generation's radical, transformative super genius.
He's doing groundbreaking work in four different industries simultaneously.
Very strange.
There's no one like that that's ever really existed before that was very public, speaks a lot, and then with social media, tweets, memes.
Did you see what he tweeted about Bill Gates?
jessica kirson
Let me see.
I don't know.
joe rogan
First of all, him and Bill Gates got into it because Bill Gates shorted Tesla stock.
And so Bill Gates reached out to him and talked to him about philanthropy.
And you could tell it's probably real because it's a text message.
It's green text from Bill Gates.
So Bill Gates is not going to own a fucking iPhone, right?
Bill Gates hates Apple.
So he probably uses an Android.
And he says, are you still shorting Tesla stock?
And Bill Gates says, unfortunately, yes, but I want to talk to you about philanthropy.
And he goes, I can't take any of your advice about climate change seriously.
When you're shorting Tesla, a company is doing the most to affect climate change.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is true.
I mean, he's revolutionized the electric automobile business.
Revolutionized it.
He talked about emissions, like changing emissions.
Revolutionized it.
And they're superior to anything that is an internal combustion engine car.
Have you ever driven a Tesla?
jessica kirson
Never.
joe rogan
It's fucking preposterously good.
They're so fast.
It's great.
jessica kirson
I'm sure.
joe rogan
It is like a ride.
Like a roller coaster.
And they drive themselves.
The fucking...
The handling of everything is fantastic.
The audio quality.
The comfort level.
It's an amazing car.
So his position was like, that Bill Gates is like, go fuck yourself, right?
So then he tweets this after this conversation.
jessica kirson
That is...
joe rogan
No, go all the way back so you can see the actual tweet.
Oh, in case you need to lose a boner fast, it says up there.
So this is what he tweets.
jessica kirson
That is hysterical.
joe rogan
I mean, come on.
Who the fuck does that?
jessica kirson
Look at Bill Gates.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he's eating all those fucking plant burgers.
He's trying to tell the world they have to switch over to plant-based meat.
Hey, buddy, that shit's not good for you.
You're eating a bunch of seed oils and your gut's inflamed.
It's so bad.
For that guy to be talking to anybody about health, stop!
This is insanity.
You can't do that.
You can't look like that and talk about health.
jessica kirson
After that text?
joe rogan
That is morbidly obese.
That kind of gut, when you have a gut like that, and you're in your 60s, late 60s, those are the guys that have heart attacks.
unidentified
For real, why are you laughing?
jessica kirson
Because of the picture.
The picture is incredible.
joe rogan
That's his gut.
He's got a big gut.
Yeah.
He's not accurate either.
That's not true.
He also has a vested interest in saying this because he owns more farmland than anyone in the country.
jessica kirson
He does?
joe rogan
Bill Gates owns a shitload of farmland.
And I would assume that he's going to use that farmland to grow plant-based burgers.
I haven't had one.
Oh, I did have one.
I did have one.
My friend CK brought it when we were doing, when Dave Chappelle and I were doing shows at Stubbs, he brought these burgers backstage and some of them were plant-based burgers and I tried one.
jessica kirson
Did you like it?
joe rogan
It's hard to tell because it was like mixed up with sauce and lettuce and it was okay.
It was okay.
I mean, they made something that is a reasonable facsimile of meat, you know.
jessica kirson
I know.
There's always a ton of other shit on it.
joe rogan
Do you know there's a company that's cloning tiger meat and they're going to sell tiger steaks to restaurants?
jessica kirson
Are you serious?
joe rogan
They're 3D printing tiger meat and a bunch of other exotic, illegal to eat animals.
They're going to take their tissue and they're 3D printed.
jessica kirson
I don't understand.
I don't know what that means.
joe rogan
Exactly.
I'm neither.
jessica kirson
I don't even know what you just said.
unidentified
I'm just repeating words.
joe rogan
I'm repeating words that smart people say.
3D printing meat.
They're actually, and they have done this with beef, where they've actually concocted a combination of beef fat and beef muscle tissue and made a synthetic steak out of it.
So through some sort of a process of a replication of cells, they'll take a small amount of cells from animals and then they'll convert that into some sort of a petri dish slab of meat.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Exactly.
jessica kirson
Who's doing that?
joe rogan
Well, I know they've been trying to do that for a while with beef, but it's exorbitantly expensive.
Like, I think one steak is somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple hundred thousand dollars to create.
Right now.
Because they're experimenting and they haven't ramped up the scale of production to the point where they can mass produce and make it cheaper.
But this company apparently has some sort of tech.
But they might not, right?
It might just be morons like me.
They release a press release and it's all vaporware and then they get someone to invest and then they pump and dump.
That could be true too.
jessica kirson
Wouldn't it be more expensive with tiger meat?
joe rogan
It depends where you get the tiger meat from.
If you get the tiger meat from India, I bet they kill tigers there all the time.
There's an area called the Sundarbans, and this is an area where I had a bit about it in my 2009 special, because there was one boat, I think it was like four guys in the boat and three of them were killed by tigers.
Where the tiger swam out to the boat, killed a guy, dragged him into the water, dropped him off at the beach, jumped back in the water, swam back out to the boat again, killed a guy.
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They kill a lot of people out there.
They kill so many people out there that when they go to take surveys of them, they all carry rifles and they have these helmets on that are to protect the back of their neck because that's where they bite you.
They bite you in the back of the neck.
jessica kirson
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Helmets come down on the back of the neck and then they put a mask on the back of the helmet so a tiger would think it's a face because tigers want to attack you from behind.
How wild is that?
jessica kirson
That's incredible.
joe rogan
My point is if you get your meat from there.
Here it is.
What does it say?
Primeval Foods holding tasting events for cultivated lion, tiger, and zebra meat in London and New York.
You can get zebra in Texas.
Don't impress me with zebra.
I live in Texas.
My wife saw a zebra.
unidentified
Where?
joe rogan
She's driving home.
There's a wild zebra.
jessica kirson
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
Nope.
Nope.
jessica kirson
A wild zebra?
joe rogan
She's coming back from Dripping Springs.
She saw a fucking zebra.
Because people just have zebras out here.
jessica kirson
I've never heard that before.
Is that sushi?
joe rogan
My friend asked me to kill a zebra.
He's got an asshole zebra.
He said, will you kill my zebra?
jessica kirson
Wait a second.
Back up.
I can't believe I just saw zebra sushi, number one.
joe rogan
Show me that again.
Is it raw?
jessica kirson
What the fuck is that?
unidentified
Raw zebra.
joe rogan
Zebra sushi rolls.
100% cultivated.
So somebody had to shoot a zebra, I think, to get the meat, though.
jamie vernon
It looks so well marketed.
It sounds like a troll, but I can't tell.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, if you're going to get people to talk about it, that's the way to do it.
Veganomics.
Is this all about vegan stuff?
jamie vernon
I mean, I just found the press release about the event.
joe rogan
Well, if they find out that it's ethical and sustainable and then no animals have to die and you can eat meat and maintain health and nutrition, I wonder how healthy you get from eating tiger meat.
jessica kirson
I need to ask you a quick question.
Why are there wild zebras in Texas?
joe rogan
Well, people in Texas are allowed to have domestic animals that are exotic.
jessica kirson
Oh.
joe rogan
Like you can keep pets.
jessica kirson
So someone just did what they did with the snake?
Like they just let go of a zebra?
joe rogan
Someone probably jumped a fence.
jessica kirson
Oh.
joe rogan
They probably had a fence.
Something broke a hole through the fence and a zebra got out.
jessica kirson
So one of your friends has a zebra on their property and wants you- He's killing the young zebras.
joe rogan
He's not a viable male anymore.
He's an older male.
jessica kirson
Got it.
joe rogan
He's no longer sexually viable.
But when the cults are born, he kills the males.
jessica kirson
Oh.
joe rogan
He's an asshole.
Yeah, so he'll go over to a young zebra and just stomp him to death.
Oh.
So he's got to try to figure out how to kill the zebra and he asked me to kill the zebra.
jessica kirson
So he doesn't want to kill it?
joe rogan
Actually, he'd kill it.
He's just a friend.
He wanted me to kill it for him.
He thought it'd be fun if I killed a zebra.
jessica kirson
Oh, I get it.
joe rogan
And I was going to eat it, too.
Because zebra meat is good to eat.
Even though it's weird because they look like horses, everybody that I know that has had zebra meat says it's actually delicious.
jessica kirson
Wow.
joe rogan
Because it's a wild game animal, you know, essentially.
It's not much different.
But we think of them as horses because they're so close to horses.
It's a fucking beautiful animal.
jessica kirson
Like, what a wild design.
And they know two have the same design, which is so...
joe rogan
And they think that design is sort of distract, like, because they're in herds, right?
They're in this big, giant group of them.
As they're running, it distracts animals where they hesitate and they can't figure out which one to go for.
Because they can't lock onto any one.
jessica kirson
Right.
So interesting.
joe rogan
Wild colors.
It's not camouflaged in the sense that it hides them, but it confuses predators just long enough so they can run away.
jessica kirson
Have you been to Africa?
joe rogan
I have not.
Yeah, I'd love to do that.
jessica kirson
I'm dying to go.
joe rogan
Where do you want to go?
What part?
jessica kirson
I want to travel the whole...
I really want to go to a bunch of places there.
My mom went on one of those...
Zach got this luxury trip and didn't take it, my stepbrother, and then gave it to my mother and stepfather, and they stayed in a treehouse that was glass-enclosed, and the animals came to the window.
I mean, it was really unbelievable.
And they went on the safaris.
I'm dying to do it, but it'd have to be an amazing trip.
joe rogan
You gotta make sure they pay attention.
jessica kirson
Luxury.
joe rogan
I was reading about this lady who was staying at a safari resort.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Two female lions killed her in the shower.
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
Could you imagine?
You're in Africa, like, I'm gonna go to Africa, and I'm gonna hang out with nature.
This is gonna be amazing.
And you're in there washing your pussy, and you hear...
jessica kirson
Another pussy comes and kills you.
That's a good...
joe rogan
You sound like my ex.
Is that what she sounded like?
jessica kirson
No, I'm joking.
When she was about to eat me out.
That's such a good impression.
joe rogan
Can you imagine that sound, like hearing that sound and knowing it's the last noises you're going to hear?
jessica kirson
That is the worst thought I could ever...
joe rogan
Man devoured by lions by taking a shower in Zimbabwe.
He used a whole pride of lions while taking a shower in a camp in the north of the country.
The conservation body said, why did I have thought it was a woman?
jamie vernon
It might have been.
joe rogan
This could be a different story.
jamie vernon
I can't imagine this happened only once.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's happened.
I think they probably know to go after people.
jessica kirson
Hearing that sound right before you're going to die is just...
joe rogan
Is that worse though, or is the fucking Komodo dragon worse?
Watching that thing eat you foot first.
jessica kirson
The dragon's worse.
The dragon.
Going into that thing one piece at a time with that chomp is worse than a lion just...
Because you would die, I think, from the lion quicker.
joe rogan
Yeah, the thing about Komodo dragons is they have poison in their saliva and their mouths are infected.
It's a combination of...
There's botulism in their saliva and a bunch of toxins and they bite you and then they follow you.
They don't kill you, like chase you down and kill you.
They bite you and then they slowly watch you wither away until you can't run anymore.
jessica kirson
They're horrible.
joe rogan
And then they tear you apart.
And they always go guts first.
They always eat guts first because that's the softest spot.
So they go after your guts.
So you'd be lying on your back poisoned and this thing would just be pulling your entrails out.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
Heartless, thoughtless, emotionless, fucking creeps.
jessica kirson
But being bitten by a lion while you're naked in a shower and just seeing that thing look at you and about to...
What a fucking horrible way to die.
joe rogan
It would suffocate you quick, though.
jessica kirson
Yeah, right.
You'd die immediately, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just go for your neck.
jessica kirson
Right.
joe rogan
They all go for your neck.
They just clamp on your neck.
That's the difference between getting eaten by a thing like a lion and getting eaten by a thing that just starts eating.
jessica kirson
But that's interesting because they carry their babies by the back of the neck.
So when you said that, that was interesting to me.
joe rogan
Well, they scruff.
They carry them by the scruff.
When they get your neck, they're going to get you here.
They'll get you here, too, though.
Their head is so big.
I mean, with our little bitch-ass necks, a lion would just wrap around the whole neck.
I mean, a lion's head is like, lion's heads are so big.
They're so big it's insane.
And it's all designed for killing.
jessica kirson
You have to go to Africa.
joe rogan
I do have to go to Africa.
jessica kirson
You would be in heaven!
joe rogan
My kids were young and I didn't want to give them malaria medication.
jessica kirson
That's all it was.
joe rogan
Because I was like, I'm not going there by myself.
And I wanted to go to Tanzania.
And I wanted them to see all these animals in the wild.
But the malaria thing was like, wait, wait, what is this medication?
What's the side effects?
What does it do?
And then my friend Dave, he was supposed to go to Africa back in the day when we were on news radio and he was taking malaria medication and apparently you're not supposed to drink while you take this stuff.
And he was drinking and just like blacking out and saying crazy shit and trying to start fights with people.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And if you knew Dave, you know how hilarious that is.
Because he's like the nicest guy on earth.
He's so peaceful.
But he took a reporter's...
We were at this press thing.
He took a reporter's tape recorder and dunked it in his drink.
jessica kirson
It's made him crazy.
joe rogan
It made him crazy, yeah.
It does that to people though.
It's a common side effect of some types of that malaria medication when you drink alcohol.
Like you just like, you go fucking bonkers.
jessica kirson
I forgot you have to take all, you have to, my mom had, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to take stuff.
jessica kirson
Really jacked up on that shit.
joe rogan
In advance.
jessica kirson
Right, I know.
joe rogan
My buddy's had malaria three times.
I have a good friend of mine who's got malaria.
He runs Fight for the Forgotten, which is a, it's a, um, They build wells for the pygmies in the Congo, in Zimbabwe now, too.
Or Uganda, rather.
And they're building these wells, and he goes over, and he was staying in the Congo on multiple times.
He got fucking malaria, Justin Wrenn.
He got malaria three times.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
While running this charity, while trying to help these people make wells.
jessica kirson
Oh boy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, it fucks you up.
He also had some sort of a parasite that infected his brain, and it took them How long did it take them?
Something like six months to clean it up.
Whatever it was.
He was fucked.
Legitimately fucked for six months and they didn't even know what it was.
It might have been more than six months.
It might have been a year.
But he detailed it on the podcast.
We're like, what?
It was some sort of a brain bacteria.
jessica kirson
This is like- Scary.
joe rogan
All while he's going over to Africa- To help people.
To help people.
There's people that are better than us.
They're better than us, Jessie.
jessica kirson
I know.
unidentified
They're better.
jessica kirson
I know.
So much better.
unidentified
They're better people.
jessica kirson
And then they get sick.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
But, you know, he almost died from malaria.
He's like, it's no joke.
He's like, it's a terrible, terrible disease.
Malaria has killed, I think the number that we found out that seems to be accurate, they think malaria has killed more than half of the people who have ever died ever.
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
In the world, you mean?
Like the numbers that's ever died ever in the history of...
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think they think it's somewhere...
Like it's hard to substantiate because people have been dying from malaria for so long.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's so prevalent.
It's probably the number one killer other than like old age and injury and stuff like that.
Malaria is horrible.
jessica kirson
Oh my God, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Horrible disease.
What does it say?
I know we've done this before, but I don't remember the results.
Do you?
jamie vernon
So I'm looking at both things.
I was going to correct it, and then the third link down says the exact thing that you just repeated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
So when I Google in how many people have died from it, it says maybe between about 150 million and 300 million lives, which is 2% to 5% of all deaths.
joe rogan
That's every year?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
Ever.
jamie vernon
Total.
In the 20th century alone.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then the other, what's the other link say?
jamie vernon
That's the 20th century alone.
Right.
But then this says it's killed nearly half of all people.
But this is as of 2002, and I feel like we've dug through this at one point, and then it was like it couldn't have, because there's been like 54 billion people.
joe rogan
Right.
So it's been, has there only been 50?
Isn't that wild?
There's like 8 billion people now, and there's only been 50 billion people ever.
unidentified
Right.
jessica kirson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
jessica kirson
Really?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
We're fucking like rats on a sinking ship right now.
We're everywhere.
jessica kirson
There's only been 50 billion people ever.
joe rogan
I think that's the number.
jessica kirson
And there's 8 billion now?
joe rogan
Yeah.
See if that's true.
jessica kirson
That's insane.
joe rogan
I might be just making shit up left and right.
jessica kirson
It sounds incredible.
jamie vernon
54 billion deaths is like an estimate I'm looking at right now.
A historical death toll.
joe rogan
How many immortals?
Subtract the immortals.
jamie vernon
One or two maybe then.
Some people on another podcast dug through that same article.
joe rogan
At some time during the 19th century, malaria reached its global limits.
In absolute numbers and in the proportion of humanity now affected, malaria was exacting its highest ever toll of sickness and death.
Well over one half of the world's population was at significant risk from malaria.
Of those directly affected by malaria, at least one in ten would expect to die from it.
Jesus.
jessica kirson
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's a scary, scary disease.
And it's all stagnant water and mosquitoes.
And one of the things they're trying to do to combat is they're creating different kinds of mosquitoes that don't get malaria.
And they're going to have these mosquitoes breed with other mosquitoes.
Some sort of weird genetically engineered mosquito thing.
And everybody's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
What happens?
What's the long term on this?
Do you know what the fuck's going to happen when you release genetically modified mosquitoes?
This sounds like a goddamn horror movie.
Doesn't that sound like a zombie movie?
jessica kirson
Yeah.
How are they going to have...
But how can you make mosquitoes that don't get malaria?
joe rogan
Well, it's like Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic Park.
unidentified
It's a strange thing.
joe rogan
When you manipulate nature.
What was his quote?
jessica kirson
How the fuck do you do that?
jamie vernon
Life finds a way.
joe rogan
Oh, life finds a way.
That's what it was.
What he's doing is...
They're making a mosquito to combat the mosquitoes that are carrying malaria.
How they're doing it, I'm not sure.
And whether or not they know for sure that that malaria will never mutate.
jessica kirson
That's so scary.
joe rogan
And that genetically modified mosquito will never mutate.
I'm not sure.
Maybe they know.
Life on your way.
jessica kirson
So weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Like you can make a mosquito.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Anophilus mosquitoes that have been genetically engineered with multiple anti-malaria molecules acting at different stages of the malaria life cycle are strongly resistant to the parasite that causes malaria and unlikely to lose that resistance quickly according to a study.
jessica kirson
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We've never do this large scale.
The thing that I would worry about is some sort of mutation.
jessica kirson
Right.
Or another disease.
This is all so crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If malaria decides, like, oh, all we have to do is just change a little, and this stupid fucking mosquito becomes the perfect carrier for malaria.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
jessica kirson
So I don't know if you just said this, but so is it as bad now still?
Malaria?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Still bad.
Yeah, it's still very bad.
It's bad in jungle areas in particular because of stagnant water.
But it's just an extremely prevalent disease in third world countries.
Scary stuff.
Especially hot climates, obviously, with stagnant water.
They had a malaria outbreak in the United States at one point in time.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
Everyone's just constantly complaining here.
We have it so good.
joe rogan
We got it pretty soft.
jessica kirson
I can't fucking handle it.
joe rogan
In comparison.
jessica kirson
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Are you worried about anything right now?
Are you worried about nuclear war with Russia?
jessica kirson
No.
joe rogan
No.
Nice.
No, I'm not.
Good.
I'm going with you.
jessica kirson
I don't...
Are you worried about that?
joe rogan
I'm not not worried.
jessica kirson
I mean, I just don't think that's like an immediate thing with him.
joe rogan
No, it could happen tomorrow.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I'm not worried about it in the next five minutes.
joe rogan
It's not right now.
Right now we're just chilling.
jessica kirson
Do you really think that that is...
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
jessica kirson
Let me hear why.
joe rogan
Well, he has them.
jessica kirson
I get it.
joe rogan
And he's killing people.
He's killing people in Ukraine.
He's killing a lot of people in Ukraine.
Thousands and thousands of people.
The difference between, let's say, the civilian casualty and Ukrainian casualty number is up to, let's say it's 5,000.
Maybe it's 10,000.
What's to stop a nuclear bomb that'll kill 100,000?
Why wouldn't he?
What if he's cornered?
What if, like, there's no way out of this without, there's no way to save face?
jessica kirson
I mean, I haven't watched the news, like I told you, but listen, isn't he taking over the country?
Isn't he successful right now in what's happening?
joe rogan
In taking over Ukraine?
jessica kirson
Yes.
That's why I don't think he would.
unidentified
Like, does he have a reason to do that right now?
joe rogan
Russia has definitely taken over some cities.
jessica kirson
Right.
That's why I'm saying, why would he do that now if he's succeeding?
joe rogan
Because they've lost a lot of Russian troops.
The casualty numbers have been very high.
They don't know how many.
Because they have a literal crematorium that they're carrying on wheels where they're throwing...
This is according to...
Was it Garcia said that?
Who said that?
The guy was on the podcast.
What's going on is...
And he had just gotten back from there, right?
They are traveling around, and when the Russian troops would die, they have a specific truck that's an incinerator truck, and they just throw the bodies into the incinerator.
So they're literally dragging around a crematorium.
So they don't know how many people are dying from it.
jessica kirson
I guess what I'm thinking is if he were losing the war, like if he's not getting what he wants, I would be more worried.
joe rogan
I don't know if he's getting what he wants because I think there's a lot of economic sanctions that are in place that are crippling the country.
I think these oligarchs are freaking the fuck out because they're getting their yachts repossessed and fleeing to all parts of the globe.
I think he's going to lose support of a lot of those guys.
And if Russian troops keep dying, I don't know what the numbers are, but there could be a point in time where, look, this war is fairly recent.
What if we're dealing with high casualty levels for the next year, two years, three years?
At what point in time does he decide to use weapons that he has that Ukraine doesn't?
jessica kirson
Got it.
Now, if he did do that, what do you think is going to happen?
joe rogan
That's what I'm scared of.
That's what I'm really scared of.
Because if he nukes something and we do nothing, that's really scary.
If he nukes something and we do something, that's really, really scary.
jessica kirson
That's even scarier.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Both of them are scarier.
Much scarier.
joe rogan
They're both scary.
Because if he nukes Ukraine and then decides to annex or just take over all of the countries that used to be a part of the Soviet Union.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
If he tries to reassemble the Soviet Union.
He's a ruthless guy.
He's a ruthless dictator.
jessica kirson
I know.
joe rogan
And it's not like they haven't put pressure on him.
It's all really strange stuff because there's so many things at play.
I watched this whole video that this guy put up on YouTube.
It's a really interesting video, long video explaining the long history of Ukraine and the conflicts and why Russia is interested in Ukraine and why they took over Crimea and all that.
It's a very complicated, very complicated part of the world.
jessica kirson
I want to watch that because I want to know more about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll send it to you.
jessica kirson
It's fascinating to me.
joe rogan
It could spill over to the United States, I think.
No one expected this.
No one expected this hot war between Russia and Ukraine when they used to be a part of the same country just a while ago.
Just a few decades ago, they were part of the same country, and now they're killing each other.
For a lot of people, this was a much more serious thing than they expected.
jessica kirson
Yeah, this happened, like, I know, it's very...
joe rogan
Spooky.
jessica kirson
I don't think that...
I actually think if he did use nuclear weapons that the countries would not stand by and do nothing.
joe rogan
Would you worry about living in New York City?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Because I think that would be a good spot to nuke.
jessica kirson
I do.
I would be worried about living in New York.
I always worry about living in New York City during any kind of conflict around the world.
joe rogan
Because it's such a target, right?
jessica kirson
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
I mean, I lived there on 9-11.
I was running in the street.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
jessica kirson
Yep.
joe rogan
Did you see the planes hit or did you see the tower go down?
jessica kirson
I didn't see the planes hit.
I saw smoke in the air for six months.
I was uptown.
I was working in the election that day.
What's it called?
I was making $100 working in You know, in a school where people were doing the ballots and all that stuff and then there was a cop in there and I heard it on his radio.
It was the scariest thing.
We got a situation down here!
And everyone was like, a plane just hit the World Trade Center.
It was crazy.
I heard it on the radio.
And then when the second plane hit, I ran out of there and just fucking grabbed my stuff and ran.
And then everyone was running in the streets.
joe rogan
It was a very real feeling.
jessica kirson
It was insane.
joe rogan
It was going to keep happening.
jessica kirson
Oh my God.
I was like, I'm going to get hit.
I ran to my apartment.
My phone didn't work.
My family had no idea if I was okay.
My stepfather was a lawyer and he was doing a deposition, so he was running in the street covered in soot.
His whole suit, his whole...
He couldn't get out of the city and he had to walk over the bridge.
It was horrible.
Horrible.
I was traumatized from that.
So I haven't taken a subway since that day because I will never...
I was so...
I always think that New York will be...
I have to tell you I am shocked that just the other day something happened on a subway.
I am shocked that nothing has happened since 9-11 on a subway.
joe rogan
And that was just one crazy dude.
jessica kirson
Exactly.
But I can't believe that there hasn't been a terrorist attack on a subway since 9-11.
joe rogan
Do you think you're gonna stay there forever?
jessica kirson
No, I don't live in New York City.
I live on Long Island.
I bought a house.
I love New York City, but I mean, now I would never live in New York City.
It's too dangerous.
joe rogan
Tim said that too.
Tim Dillon said the exact same thing.
jessica kirson
Yeah.
We talked about it the other day.
I mean, it's crazy.
My friend who's a comic was riding his bike and some guy, like, he went on his bike by mistake at a red light and some guy got out of his car.
He made a mistake on his bike and, like, went when he wasn't supposed to.
A guy got out of his car, punched him right in the ribs.
Just like caught out of his car and punched him in the ribs for making a mistake and going.
It's just there's people aren't, they're not thinking twice about just being violent at this point.
joe rogan
There's no cops.
The cops are not acting the way they acted before.
jessica kirson
It's not at all.
joe rogan
But there is performative dance.
jessica kirson
Yes, and it's amazing.
It's really beautiful.
joe rogan
We're gonna bring it back with the arts.
We're gonna start with the arts.
jessica kirson
Well, the cops are doing interpretive dance when there's a crime now.
unidentified
That's what they do.
joe rogan
We've been doing this for three hours already.
jessica kirson
We have?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I can't believe it.
unidentified
Is that right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
How nuts is that?
jessica kirson
It doesn't feel like three hours.
It really doesn't.
It doesn't.
joe rogan
Well, it's fun.
It's fun talking to you.
unidentified
Yeah.
jessica kirson
I love talking to you.
joe rogan
I love talking to you, too.
If you ever decide to move out of Long Island, this is a good spot.
jessica kirson
I love it here.
joe rogan
I love it here, too.
jessica kirson
It's great.
joe rogan
I want to show you the club.
We'll show you the club later.
jessica kirson
Yeah, I'm dying to see it.
joe rogan
Thank you, Jessica.
I appreciate you very much.
jessica kirson
You put together a great thing here.
I mean, I just saw the whole setup.
It's fucking amazing.
joe rogan
It's pretty wild.
jessica kirson
Great.
Have you talked about it on air?
joe rogan
No.
jessica kirson
It's amazing.
unidentified
People don't know.
jessica kirson
Well, the bathroom is really beautiful.
joe rogan
It is, right?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Got a float tank in it.
unidentified
All right, my friend.
joe rogan
Thank you very much.
Tell everybody how to get a hold of you on social media, website stuff.
jessica kirson
Yes, so all my dates are up and consistently go up on jessicacerson.com.
I'm on TikTok, which is funny because I put crowd work videos on TikTok, which is rare.
joe rogan
I've seen them on Instagram.
jessica kirson
Yeah, yeah, they're on Instagram, TikTok, jessicacerson, Instagram, jessicerson, and I'm on tour right now.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
jessica kirson
Yeah, jessicacerson.com.
joe rogan
You're really fucking funny.
I'm very excited that you're out there.
jessica kirson
Thank you, Joe.
You're the best.
joe rogan
No, you're the best!
All right, that's it.
Bye, everybody.
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