Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan clash over ice baths, mask mandates, and COVID censorship, with Dore mocking extreme endurance claims while Rogan cites a doctor’s absurd viral-load comparison. They expose PayPal’s ADL collusion to silence dissent, linking it to broader suppression of debates like the lab leak theory—later validated by Fauci—while criticizing partisan hypocrisy. Dore’s YouTube defiance contrasts with corporate media’s teleprompter-driven narratives, but both agree systemic failures—like underpaid teachers and private equity housing monopolies—fuel crises. Rogan’s vaccine skepticism aligns with Dore’s spike protein concerns, despite mainstream dismissal, while they decry YouTube’s algorithmic bias against independent voices like Dore or Kyle Kalinske. Dore’s third-party push, the People’s Party, aims to break the two-party oligarchy’s grip, arguing real change demands risk over symbolic gestures. [Automatically generated summary]
This is the closest I've ever come to dying, I think.
Doing one of these things.
I just don't know why.
My friend Jocko Willink, he sent me a video of his kid doing 20 minutes in the ice bath.
Because the first time I did it, I bailed it like a minute and a half.
And I was like, oh my god, this is so cold.
And then last night I did it and I got to four minutes.
And I was like, I think I can go further.
And so today what I decided to do is set a timer.
So when I set a timer, like I had my phone timer on so I could look at the timer.
And when I did that, I could stare and I knew exactly how much time was passed.
And so I got to five minutes.
That was my goal to get to five minutes.
I was like, fuck it, let's go for 10. I got to 10. I was like, fuck it, 15. I got to 15 and then I was like, we're gonna go for 20. And I got to 20 minutes.
Like, in the beginning, I was just kind of breathing normal, and then once it got real rough, I started doing these deep breathing exercises like six seconds in and six seconds out, and then it was more tolerable.
All this stuff, you guys, it's always like, you can't eat, but once every 36 hours, you've got to breathe through your nose, and then your mouth will expand, and you'll have the right bite.
Mewing is the placement of the tongue on the roof of the mouth, which proponents say can reshape the face and help correct orthodontic breathing and facial structural issues.
It was developed by an orthodontist named John Mew in the 1970s.
I mean, you can kind of get in, but I think it's a big deal, and you have to quarantine.
Are they open to international travel?
I think when you're a Canadian resident, like Matty Madison, you know, the chef, he was here, and he said that he had a quarantine for two weeks when he went back.
It's one of those surface-level conversation things, and then when someone does come in with something brilliant, he has to not shut it down, because it might offend who knows who it might offend.
But, again, better if it's on the internet because you don't get interrupted.
Like, there's this thing where you're interrupting the flow of the conversation that it stops these...
You know, I don't have to tell you, but for the people that are listening...
Your mind is, when you're having these conversations with people, your mind is sort of going to like, where does this go next?
And what about this?
And what about that?
And you want to listen to the person, but you also have some thoughts.
You're waiting to interject and all that stuff gets hamstrung when you have five minutes and then you have to cut to commercial.
And then also you're working for a large corporation and there's, whether it's a spoken pressure or it's just a known pressure.
Particularly to adhere to these very distinct ideas that everybody's propagating, whatever those ideas are.
And it's mostly these liberal leftist ideas that you're getting from these Hollywood studios.
Whether they've thought through these things or not, it's like if you want to work, you better adhere to these ideas and you better adhere to these – you better say these things.
Yeah, I mean, well, we all know that there was the letter that was CAA sent to Tulsi Gabbard, right?
Do you know about that, right?
And they were like, when she wouldn't back Hillary Clinton, and they sent, now this is going back years ago, so it's hard for me to remember, but yeah, they were like threatening her, like, hey, you better get on board with Hillary and all this stuff, and...
And so now they don't know how to control me, someone like me.
Now I get to just say whatever I want all the time, and it turns out there's a lot of people who like that, and they like what I'm saying, and that can't be controlled, and they don't know what to do.
So what they do is they'll write hit pieces on you, on me.
They've done that.
So when I was pushing Force to Vote, I don't know if you know what that was.
I think what's going on is that, as Chris Hedges says, politics attracts the most mediocre people to begin with.
And they're narcissists and they're self-dealers.
And so once they got power, they realized, I don't really want to go against the establishment, because I don't want to feel the wrath of the establishment.
I don't want to feel the wrath of Wall Street, the military-industrial complex, Big Pharma, and all that, and the party coming down on me.
Because if you're in Congress, you're going to get speaking fees, right?
Speaking gigs, you're going to get a book deal.
And if you're in Congress for five years, you get a pension for the rest of your life.
So these people do not want to upset the apple cart like they ran on.
They ran on literally AOC was saying that we need to cause a ruckus.
And they don't want to be pushed, but we have to push them and we have to stop being polite.
Well, that's the weird thing is that there's two narratives.
And there was the narrative from the right is that Rand Paul called him out and proved that he was not telling the truth about gain-of-function research.
And then the narrative on the left was Fauci owns Rand Paul.
It was just like, Jesus Christ, you guys are like little kids.
Well, the first time, not this last time, but the first time I saw Rand Paul giving it to Fauci about gain-of-function, he mentioned the doctor's name.
He said, Dr. Joe Blow, whatever the name was, he said, that's not gain-of-function.
And Fauci goes, no, that's not gain-of-function.
And if it is, it's being done under the right regulation.
Right.
He contradicted himself right there.
That's not going to function, what he's doing, but if it is, it's being done correctly.
Right, and now people are saying that that's all CIA ops, that the CIA's making or leaking that story because they want to advance the Cold War with China.
You're really allowed to say your full opinion on your show.
And the way you do it, it's very brave.
And I love the fact that there's a platform.
As much shit as people talk about YouTube, and I don't agree with their censorship at all, But I think part of the problem with YouTube is they're managing its scale, right?
There's fucking millions and millions of videos coming in, and who's doing it?
It's arbitrary, and it's subjective.
You have people working for them that are choosing what gets banned and what doesn't get banned, and then they have to come in and clean up the mess.
We've had many of our shows, when we were on YouTube, that were demonetized, but then a lot of them, when we challenged it, someone else looked at it and said, no, these are okay.
I totally understand why they're doing what they're doing.
Because the independent news space causes a lot of problems for their revenue model, and they get all this bad press from the establishment press because the independent news space on YouTube is direct competition.
To the establishment media.
So what happens is they write all these hit pieces about how YouTube independent news people, how they're all radicals and crazy, and they're poisoning your kids' minds and making them radical.
And they did articles where they stuck me in with Nazis and pedophiles and the Jimmy Dore show saying the stuff about Syria is false flags.
Because if people are not like really balls deep into politics, they might not understand, especially international politics, this whole Syria false flag thing.
Okay, but if you talk to people that are in the military, the idea that I'm getting from them was that they wanted to get rid of ISIS, that ISIS is bad.
So when you read this and you say they're dropping bombs on ISIS, what's the actual story?
So getting back to Syria is they had all these terrorists, literal terrorists funded by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, those kind of types of people and the CIA trying to overthrow Assad.
Now Assad beat them.
And so the reason why they would stage these But when you say staged fake gas attacks, what exactly was done?
So we know what was done because of the OPCW whistleblower.
What does that stand for?
For the Prevention of Chemical Weapons, right?
So the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons, I'm pretty sure that's what that stands for.
Or for the prohibition of chemical weapons, OPCW, right?
So that's the official organization that goes in.
And they're supposed to be independent.
And it turns out they've been being influenced by NATO and Western government powers.
And we found this out because of the OPCW. So they went in, they go in to do the admissional investigation to see where the gas attack, whether it's real, who did it, all this stuff.
So the engineering report Got suppressed.
The engineering report said this didn't happen.
It said this cylinder was placed there.
It wasn't dropped from the sky.
It didn't happen.
They suppressed those reports.
So anything that was in the initial OPCW report that debunked the gas attack narrative got suppressed.
And so then these whistleblowers came out, and this guy Aaron Maté, who's a great journalist, works at the Gray Zone, he highlighted this, and he's testified in front of the UN about this, and he's caught all these people at the OPCW lying and suppressing stuff, and nobody in the American mainstream press will cover this.
Nobody's writing their article on Syria.
Aramate's written at least 10 articles detailing what happened in Syria.
No one's written an article to debunk one thing he's written.
Not anybody.
So what this is, is we're trying to overthrow another goddamn government in the Middle East, just like we did in Iraq, just like we did in Libya, and now we're trying to do it in Syria.
I don't know if you remember General Wesley Clark.
And Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in.
He said, sir, you gotta come in and talk to me a second.
So I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?
He said, no, no.
He says, there's nothing new that way.
They've just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.
He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments.
And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
So no, in my head there isn't, because even at the time, Joe, when these gas attacks happened, they happened when Assad was winning the war against the terrorists.
He was winning, and so then they do this gas attack to try to get the Americans and give them a reason to join in.
So why would Assad, it doesn't make any sense, why would he do the one thing that he knows would bring the United States into this war and they could beat him?
I think Jeff Bezos hires the most progressive people.
Dr. Evil is running a newspaper that, by the way, he had a contract with the CIA, which was worth like two or three times what he fucking paid for the paper.
Like, I was on a panel one time in San Francisco, and it was being hosted by this Emmy Award-winning news guy from NBC, and I was talking about how bad the establishment news is, and how they all have groupthink, and they all go, and he goes, Jimmy, you know, when We're in editorial meetings.
We don't all talk like that.
I don't think you know what we talk about when we're in editorial meetings.
And I go, you know, I don't because I'll never be invited into one of those editorial meetings because I've been coloring outside the lines my whole life.
Whereas you have been groomed to be in that editorial meeting since you're in fucking kindergarten and you don't even know it.
It's terrifying because here's what people need to understand.
If you think that this misinformation could possibly cost lives and that you want to censor it because you want to preserve life and you want to preserve the truth, the problem is now they have a tool to decide what you say or don't say through private communication, which is what a text message is.
And the way they're doing this is by saying someone can send out a mass text to a bunch of people and in that there could be misinformation and they want to be able to stop that from happening.
You've seen this thing recently with Governor Whitmer.
Yeah, that was the FBI. The 12 different informants were involved in this.
Six defendants, 12 informants.
Have you seen that meme, Jamie?
The fucking Spider-Man meme?
Here, I sent it to you.
Put it up, because it's one of my favorite memes ever.
It's hilarious.
There's a meme of all these Spider-Men, like, that they're all feds, and they're all pointing at each other, and it says one poor autistic guy is standing there, like, not knowing, because he's the guy they've talked into.
And then they got these saps, these poor fucks, to go along with it.
Much like the story of the 19-year-old kid, they gave him a fake bomb, they talked him in, they radicalized him, gave him a fake bomb, and talked this kid into using a cell phone to detonate the bomb that didn't work in the first place, and then once he did that, they swooped up and arrested him and said, we caught a terrorist.
They were going to pull up a jet with no one in it.
They were going to pretend there was people in it and say, well, in the 60s you could just say a bunch of people died and there was no real way of knowing.
They were going to arm Cuban friendlies and use them to attack Guantanamo Bay.
And this was all to motivate people to go to war with Cuba.
And they have a socialist government, and they have pulled their socialist government, pulled people out of poverty.
And so we can't have that in the United States because we're run by capitalists.
We have a completely captured government.
It's a rapacious oligarchy.
Why do you think when COVID happened, the first thing they did, the first thing they did was they engineered an upward transfer of wealth of $5 trillion.
The largest upward transfer of wealth in human history.
That's how they fixed COVID. They didn't fix COVID. They just looted the treasury and gave it to the richest thousand motherfuckers in the country.
And I'm not self-censoring because I know my boss is watching me and I know what stories will get approved and what won't get approved.
I just get to talk about whatever I want to talk about, which is why I'm able to outdo them, which is why I'm able to do better reporting on Syria than The Intercept and The Washington Post.
I'm able to do better news information segments on Syria or on Venezuela.
Because there's people like you and Kyle and Crystal and Sagar and all these people are out there that are doing this kind of work, it does give me hope.
It really does.
Because I think even though there's a lot of suppression because there's a lot of influence from the establishment media, like one of the things that we know for sure, and Kyle's talked about this a lot, is that they're taking what used to be you would get recommended.
So if I watched one of your videos, there would be more of your videos that would be recommended, but that doesn't happen anymore.
No.
Talk shows.
Everyone wants to say that censorship is on the right.
And I've had disagreements with him on the podcast, particularly stuff like he's very religious, right?
So he's very against gay marriage.
He's very against gay relationships.
And I think that's preposterous.
I don't think that makes any sense.
And we've had disagreements on that and a lot of other things like the...
So but that's Kaepernick thing and there's many things that he and I have had disagreements about but he's not a bad person He just has Ideas that I don't agree with and this is the problem It's like what you're supposed to do when someone has an idea that you don't agree with you're supposed to talk to them and you say what you think and they say what they think and hopefully if it's an Some sort of a subject that I'm informed on.
I can offer a perspective that's contrary to his and it'll make sense.
And then people listening go, oh, I agree with Ben.
Oh, no, I think Joe's right.
I think...
And you figure out for yourself!
That's what's supposed to be being a person, being a human being.
This idea that there's one arbiter of truth, there's one absolute arbiter of truth, and it has to be this, whoever is the establishment media.
And when it's something like NPR, it's even more weird, because NPR is funded by people, right?
And I would come in to do fundraisers and I would say, you know, how many commercials for a bank do you get to run and still call yourself a public radio station?
And I was taking a shot at KCRW and KPCC. So, turns out there's an unlimited.
I mean, every time I turn on NPR, they're running a Bank of America commercial or something like that.
Yeah.
Or the fine people at Raytheon.
And so...
The censorship's not stopping, Joe.
In fact, what's happening is that the left is embracing it, and that's what's scary.
There's nobody to push back against it.
And when I come into this space, this journalism space, and I can do it better than them, they want me censored.
That's why they write those hit pieces.
You know, Neera Tanden, who Bernie Sanders...
She used to run the Center for American Progress, which is this big, well-moneyed think tank started by Hillary Clinton's former campaign director.
So it's all big.
And then Joe Biden tried to put her in his cabinet, right?
And she's been on Twitter saying that, you know, I've been...
She came at me on Twitter trying to...
Conflate me with that Steven Crowder, that Jimmy does these hateful videos.
This is so funny.
She owned herself in her tweet.
She goes, Jimmy Dore has done many hateful videos about me.
I don't watch them, but they can be horrible.
I'm like, well, how do you know they're horrible if you don't watch them?
Yes.
Well, are you ignoring them while you're watching them?
Anyway, but that's someone who's got the air of the president.
The president in bed with Silicon Valley.
Just now, the other day, Jen Psaki, the press secretary for the president, said, if you're banned on one media platform, you should be banned on all of them.
And so she wants to get me banned.
So do you see what's happening?
The powerful people, I stick out like a sore thumb because I'm not co-opted by the Washington Post, New York Times, or The Intercept, or MSNBC.
It would seem to me that she didn't make that up on the fly, that that was a policy that they've been thinking about.
And so Chris Hedges talked about it on my show that the establishment is just going to be using more crude and more cruder forms of control, like censorship.
They're just doing it flat out now.
And so that's all they have left, and they can't control people like you or can't control people like me.
Now, when we're talking about NPR, I don't, in all fairness, and I really want to be fair as much as possible, I don't think NPR was calling for the censorship of Ben Shapiro, were they?
Well, the problem with those shows is that these people have been chosen for their spot.
They get on there with a suit and a tie, and they say what's in front of them on the teleprompter, and I don't know how much editorial control they have over it, but at the end of the day, they're not there because they're popular.
You are on your show because you've developed an audience over the years that people enjoy what you're doing or they like it.
It resonates with them.
They've tuned in.
They've subscribed.
They go and seek you out on a regular basis.
They're not doing that with CNN. It's just on.
It's on.
So when Brian Stelter's talking, it's because he's on.
And so you're watching.
But when he's not on, when someone else is in his place, the ratings go up, which is crazy.
When you got your own show and then you're not there and the ratings are better when you're not there.
But see, this is the thing about when you are chosen to be on a slot in corporate news.
But this is what people need to get this in their head.
You want to know what someone's opinion is.
You really do.
We all do.
Because I'm not sure what mine are on things.
I need to hear from educated people.
I need to hear from informed people that are speaking truthfully about this is what I've learned.
This is my perspective.
This is what I think.
Based on the facts at hand, and I'm going to show you what those facts are, this is my perspective on these things.
When you do that, people go, I see how you came to that conclusion.
But when you're on a network, whether it's Fox News or whatever, and you're speaking and people know that you are reading off of a teleprompter, you have a team of writers, All the words are approved.
You have a narrative that you're pushing and this narrative is essentially guided by the network.
The people don't resonate with that.
It doesn't stick.
It doesn't work.
It's a version of what we're talking about with late night television.
And once you blow that, I have a broad appeal, both left and the right.
I have a lot of people who watch my show on their right say, I disagree with Jimmy on most things, but I appreciate that he's telling the truth.
And they like that.
They like that I'm going to tell the truth.
And I've had lots of people say that I've changed their mind.
They go, I've started watching Jimmy, and since then I've changed on single payer, but I still disagree with him on cops and this and that, blah, blah, blah.
And that used to be the gold standard for a lefty.
You know, when I go on Tucker Carlson, I take heat for it every time I do.
But Tucker Carlson admitted, last time I was on his show, we were talking about Julian Assange, and he said, you know, it was through the force of your argument that you changed my mind on Julian Assange.
Now, that should be considered a huge victory for the progressive left, right?
Because you got the guy who's got the number one news show speaking to half the country, and I changed his mind on an issue.
That's what we're supposed to do.
We're supposed to use speech, talk to each other, so we can change people's hearts and minds.
And that's what you're supposed to do.
So when you see somebody who's a right winger, I had a union guy on my show, and I go, what's your message for these guys?
They go, I don't have a message.
I go, well, that's not how organizing works, fuckface.
That's not how it works.
I've been in unions my whole life.
You don't go to the shop floor and go, who's here a proud boy?
You're out.
Who here's a boogaloo boy?
You're out.
Who's a libertarian?
You're out.
Who's a gun nut?
You're out.
Who's a trumper?
You're out.
Okay, who's left?
We're going to organize against the man.
That's not how fucking organizing works.
And when people say, which they love to say, and they don't know what they're saying, they go, oh, we have to organize along class lines.
Oh, really?
You really mean that?
Because they don't fucking mean that.
What does it mean when they say organize along class?
Not just the working class on half the country.
When you say organize along working class lines, that means everybody.
That means Trumpers.
And when I'm out there pushing for Medicare for all, that's Medicare for all.
All I did was, and I started off the interview by saying, I don't know anything about the Boogaloo Boys.
I am not endorsing a Boogaloo Boy.
I don't know anything about it.
But I saw this guy give a speech at the state capitol in Michigan, and I want to have him on to pick his brain.
And so I brought him on, and I interviewed him.
And it turned out that certain factions of the Boogaloo Boys that he belongs to, they were started because they were a reaction to the Proud Boys, and they were anti-racist.
And one of the things that you have to be in a Boogaloo Boy was you couldn't be racist.
I didn't know that.
He also said he was providing security for the Black Lives Matter protesters.
And I was trending yesterday on Twitter because I gave a speech.
At the Medicare for All marches that happened on Saturday.
And I said we have to make the squad uncomfortable.
We have to make Bernie Sanders uncomfortable.
Because those are the people we have the most influence on.
I don't have any influence on Rand Paul or Mitch McConnell.
I didn't help get them elected.
They don't listen to me ever.
And Lawrence O'Donnell said the only way you're ever going to get, and this is a famous quote of his, the only way you're going to get the Democratic Party to listen to you or move to your side to the left is you have to be willing to show that you're not going to vote for them.
And that is not what the Democrats or the people on the left are.
They're always going to vote for the lesser of two evil, so the lesser of two evil is always going to keep being shitty.
And so that's why Joe Biden can govern like a right-winger, because he is a right-winger.
He's a conservative right-winger, Joe Biden.
And just think about this, about the military spending.
So when Trump was president, they said Trump was a traitor, and he was working for Putin, and you can't trust him, then why did you give him an extra $132 billion to do war?
Because that's what they did.
During his four years of presidency, they ramped up the military budget, $132 billion, and there was no town halls about it, there was no meetings, there was no big discussions about it, they just did it.
You know you could end homelessness for $20 billion.
They could do that every year.
They don't want to.
So it just goes to show you how captured our government is.
Well, I had Coleon Noir on the podcast and he's a Second Amendment advocate.
He's a lawyer and he's a very interesting and intelligent guy.
And one of the things that he pointed out was that it was pointed out to him that there's no incentive to really end homelessness because there's a shit ton of people that are working to end homelessness and they're making six figures.
And he put up the numbers.
He put up the income of all the different people that are working in California.
What I try to tell people, 80% of workers in America lived paycheck to paycheck before COVID. Half of all wage earners earn less than $30,000 a year in America.
50% of Americans couldn't afford a $400 emergency.
So I say, what do you call a system that takes the richest country on the face of the earth and renders half of its population poor or low income?
You call that a goddamn failed system.
And no one's talking about the failed system.
All they're doing is trying to nip around the edges.
And they're not even doing that anymore.
We can't even get a $15 minimum wage.
We can't even get a public option.
We ain't getting shit.
But they are ramping up the drug war and putting more people in prison.
And right now, they passed a law in California that said you can't use prisons for immigrants, right?
Joe Biden is in court trying to We'll return that.
That's Joe Biden, not Trump.
Joe Biden.
You know, Trump allowed them to discriminate against the LGBTQ if you were a religious school.
Joe Biden is now upholding that.
So again, this idea that Joe Biden is somehow better than anybody, he is the moral superior to no one.
So now when you go back to the homeless situation, so clearly COVID was just a giant monkey wrench into the gears of life for everybody in this country.
For the past year and a half plus, everything's gone sideways.
It's all fucked, right?
When you say that 40% of these people that are homeless have jobs, how many are mentally ill?
How many of them are drug addicts?
How many of them are criminals?
How many of them have some sort of a horrible history where they can't get hired anywhere?
How do you ever resolve that?
If you're dealing with somewhere like California, I don't know what Los Angeles' homeless population is now, but someone estimated it was somewhere around 100,000, which is literally Boulder, Colorado.
So you have the population of Boulder in LA and they're all in tents.
How would anybody resolve that?
When you take into account how many of them are criminals, how many of them have horrible records where nobody wants to hire them, how many of them are mentally ill, how many of them are...
So again, like I said, the stats are I think somewhere around 40% of them actually have jobs.
So the rest of them, if they're mentally ill or drug addicts, you know what that is, that you'd have to have a health care program to take care of those people like they do in other countries.
That was the problem in the Reagan administration.
They changed the standards for people to be in mental institutions and they cast those people out in the street and that's when we saw a giant uptick in homeless.
So you'd have to do something to ramp up the mental health programs, ramp up institutions, but do you institutionalize these people against their will?
Like, if you want to create affordable housing for people, but you have this competitive real estate market, like we were talking earlier about how expensive houses are.
And now they're doing that thing where the hedge funds, or the equity companies, which got bailed out during the COVID upward transfer of wealth, are now buying up all the houses and renting them out so they keep people paupers.
Because the only way to really create wealth in America anymore is now through real estate.
And so if you can't get real estate, you're going to be a pauper forever.
So you've heard about those stories, right?
Where there's the big equity firm that bought, in fact, one whole city, I think, in Texas somewhere.
So as far as I can tell, what's happening there is they're cornering the market and they're creating monopolies and they're artificially raising the prices so then they can have you as a renter forever.
But it seems like they've been on top of it from the jump.
They never let it get to a point where you've got 100,000 people in Los Angeles that are homeless.
That's where it becomes a problem, when it gets so bad.
I was talking to the mayor of Austin, and we were describing the homeless situation here, and he's like, you've got to get a hold of it now.
He goes, because if it gets worse, It's going to get to a point where if you look at Los Angeles, it's essentially unfixable.
And he was describing, we don't have the resources to fix something like that.
But Austin's homeless situation is somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 people.
He's like, that's fixable if we act now.
If you act now and start providing shelter.
And so they're doing these things.
They're trying.
And a lot of people don't think they're trying fast enough.
And they've instituted this tent ban.
And some people are against it.
And some people are celebrating it.
And it's a very divisive thing in the city.
Because this is a weird city, right?
It's a progressive city that's in this red state and there's a lot of conflicts about how to handle these situations.
But the mayor, Steve Adler, had a great point.
He's like, you could get a hold of it now and you could stop.
And he goes, and that is my one goal in the year and a half that I have left in office is to get a hold of this and start making some progress and to lay the foundation for if he leaves office and the next mayor comes in, they have They have a plan.
I've seen, like, my friend Bridget Phetasy sent me a video.
She took of her car driving down Venice and just filming the number of tents.
And if you're a person whose job was to handle that, you'd be like, well, the diffusion of responsibility is so high because the problem is so overwhelming.
Like, what do you do?
What do you do?
Maybe they're not really farming homeless people.
Maybe you can't fucking fix it.
Maybe there's not enough money.
Maybe you need fucking trillions of dollars to fix that because it's so overwhelming.
So, you know, in other countries, when COVID happened, when they quarantined them, what they did is if you had to shut your business down, the government paid your employees.
The government paid them.
In Japan, it was like 100%, and in Europe, it ranged from 70% to 100% of people's salaries.
Yeah, but it's way harder to hit a hole in one than it is for a guy that's literally the greatest quarterback of all time to throw a ball 15 yards into a small pocket like that.
Guys who have long careers, for sure, get some CTE. You know, the ones who are the most defensively responsible, who fight the smartest, they get little of it, or less of it, I should say, than the ones who are like face-forward brawlers.
The fight with Roberto Duran, he fought Roberto Duran's kind of fight and the first fight Duran won and the second fight he caught Duran fat and made him lose a lot of weight and then Duran quit in the middle of the fight and just destroyed him and they document this in the Showtime.
And they document it, and they talk about it, and Durant talked about it.
And then when he came back and had some fights afterwards and fought like shit and lost to some guys that you didn't think he was going to lose to, and then eventually wound up beating Davey Moore and winning the junior middleweight title, I believe that it was.
And, you know, that was his big comeback, that he came back, and that was a few years later after Nomas.
I remember that, too.
It was like, because I was a giant Duran fan as well, and it's like, finally he's back.
Because he was just a pariah.
Like, he couldn't go back to Panama.
When he went to Panama, if he wanted to walk down the street, he had to walk with a lion.
He had a pet lion.
Because people were mad at him?
Because people were fucking with him.
So the way he would keep people from fucking with him, he would walk down the street with a lion.
Yeah, we were furious at him because they loved him so much and then for him to bring that kind of embarrassment to Panama was just a giant moment in the country's history.
There's one insane one on Robin Black's page where this guy leaps And he jumps through the air, lands with his feet on this wall, and does a backflip down into this huge gap in between this stone wall and a staircase.
And you're just like, what the fuck did you just do?
So, like, he's this little wiry kid and he'll go up to, like, a big guy and put a bucket over his head and run away, like, go around the corner and he'll take off his jacket and then he'll walk by like it's nothing, you know?
One of the things that's really disturbing is all the videos that are coming out of the muggings in New York City, or the security camera muggings.
There was one that came out yesterday from Brooklyn, or Queens.
This guy just got the fuck beaten out of him.
Some guy just runs up on this guy, just beats the shit out of him, knocks him unconscious, drops him on the ground, literally picks him up, drops him on his head, and then just starts stealing his money, takes everything out of his pockets.
And you've seen so many of these attack videos, and the uptick in violent crime, this is it, yeah.
He stomps on this guy, takes all his shit, and watch how he picks him up, just drops him on his head.
See that?
That could kill him, just that alone.
I mean, he just walked up on this guy, 68-year-old man hospitalized.
68-year-old guy getting kicked in the head, and there's a lot of this going on, and it's horrible to watch.
And this defund the police shit has caused this violent uptick in crime.
Did you see that guy that got the fuck beaten out of him in the park with his dog?
A guy walking with his dog and this group of teenagers...
Just jumps this guy.
Now, I don't know what he said to them or what they said to him or what happened, but it's one guy walking with his dog and a group of teenagers beat the fuck out of him.
So I thought the term defund police was unfortunate because that's not what it really meant.
I thought what it meant was, hey, instead of when there's a person with a mental health problem, instead of sending a cop, maybe we could send somebody who's a mental health person to help that person instead of...
So I thought it was actually the opposite, that they would be more available to come help you, because they wouldn't be taking care of all this bullshit.
So what's wrong with policing is the system that we use.
What's wrong, it's not bad apples, right?
Because what actually happens is there's a culture of policing, and it's the way they're trained.
They're not trained to de-escalate.
They've been trained to escalate.
And you've heard people, even Barack Obama heard say, a cop's number one job is to make sure he comes home safe at night.
That is not a cop's job.
The cop's number one job is to make sure I come home safe at night.
That's why he's supposed to risk his life and he gets a monopoly on violence and he gets to carry a gun and gets to be able to order people around because he's supposed to be protecting me.
But the way they're thinking now is I have to protect myself and everybody is a potential killer.
That's a crazy thing to say when you see videos of cops getting shot left and right.
It's a very dangerous job.
Statistically, working at a grocery store is not a dangerous job.
Now it is, though, right?
Because of COVID, then all of a sudden a lot of people who are of poor health who are working at grocery stores, it used to be no big deal, then they'd get COVID and get really sick and be fucked.
Right?
It became a dangerous job.
But statistically, being a police officer means you're pulling people over and they might shoot you.
Very dangerous show, but it's a different kind of danger.
It's like your danger because of the elements and because of the nature of your work.
The scary thing about being a cop is someone might try to kill you because you're a cop.
You're basically a professional enemy.
You're walking around, and especially now, post-George Floyd, and not just George Floyd, but all the different cases where we've seen police brutality, we've seen horrible things that the cops have done.
It's made people hate cops even more than they did before.
So I had him on my show too and he explained all that stuff like I thought I was one of the good guys and when I looked at the stats of what I was doing I was also part of the problem.
But here's what the most interesting thing is he found a piece of paper that was arrest reports and a crime report from the 1970s and the exact same crimes in the exact same neighborhoods that he was policing now and he realized like holy shit this is then this is like the definition of systemic and Like, this system is fucking broken.
These people live in this place where it's a constant sea of crime.
And they grow up in it, they're surrounded by it, and the next generation is going to experience the same thing unless something happens, and something changes, and nothing happens, and nothing changes.
And this is one of the things that I said about COVID when all this went down.
Money would it take to invest in these communities and make it so that people that grow up there have a fucking chance?
Because if you're fucked, if you're growing up in a bad neighborhood of Detroit, in a bad neighborhood in the south side of Chicago, all these crime-ridden, gang-infested neighborhoods, It's not much different now than it was a decade ago and not much different from a decade previous.
And it's going to stay this way unless something happens.
And if you really want America, you want to make America great again, here's what you do.
You have less losers.
Here's how you have less losers.
You make it so that it's easier to survive, and it's easier to get an education, it's easier to pursue a career, and you're not living in some crime-infested, gang-infested neighborhood.
And the people that think that you should pull yourself up by your bootstraps, Like, listen, motherfucker, you never lived in these places.
You don't know what you're talking about.
That's a crazy thing to say.
Because no one started, it's not like we're all on the same starting block.
And everybody gets the, oh, we're all living in fucking a nice neighborhood in Springfield, Massachusetts.
No.
No, no, that's not what most people are living in.
Most people are living in a fuck place in these gang-infested neighborhoods that we're talking about, crime-infested neighborhoods.
Baltimore, like he was talking about.
It's just when you see that it's the same situation time after time again and then Nothing gets done to fix that.
What they're doing in Illinois, or what they said they were going to do, was I think they legalized marijuana and the governor said that we're going to reinvest the money into the neighborhood that we used to spend on criminalizing and prosecuting these crimes.
We're going to reinvest that money into the neighborhoods that was most affected by the enforcement of these drug laws.
So they just ramped up the military budget again for Joe Biden.
They gave him an extra 20 billion dollars.
For what?
20 billion again.
Like imagine if you took that 20 billion and you just decided to build like a sports stadium in 20 of the biggest cities in America for a billion dollars each.
Do you know how many jobs that would create?
You know how many economics?
But instead that goes into the pocket of the guy at Raytheon into a bomb that ends up in the ground somewhere.
And it's ridiculous how we're spending.
The worst way to create jobs is defense spending, right?
It's the most least efficient way is defense spending.
Is it?
Yes.
So they've done studies and it's the least...
For every dollar you spend defense, you get the least amount of jobs in case.
Like if you put the money in somewhere else, you would get more jobs.
Just do what you want to do like you always have been able to do what you want to do with all these other aspects of your life in terms of being able to jump off a fucking building and do backflips.
You can do that, but you've got to wear a mask when you do it.
It's a drug that's been around for 40 years, has a long history of use.
And also, there's a difference between using it as a prophylactic, so using it as a preventative measure, which is one of the things that Dr. Pierre Corey talked about on this podcast.
I forget where they use this, but there was hundreds of doctors And then there's a percentage of them that used ivermectin as a prophylactic, and there's a percentage that did not.
The percentage that did not, half of the doctors, roughly, or half of the healthcare workers got COVID. The percentage that did use it as a prophylactic, 100% did not get it.
Now, I don't know if they got lucky.
This is why you need a large study, and it's a long-term study.
I don't know.
Was their job different than the people who got it?
I don't know.
That's the problem.
I'm a fucking comedian and a cage-fighting commentator.
When I'm talking about very important issues, I have to hedge my opinions on these things.
And so my doctor, because people are like, why did you trust the government?
No, I don't trust the government.
You trust Big Pharma?
No, I don't trust Big Pharma.
I trusted my doctor.
My doctor who saved my life and said that because of your thing, you should get it because we don't know how it's going to affect you and blah, blah, blah.
So I got it.
And then, you know, the symptoms you get from it, they never went away for me.
I'm 99% positive she said that because I remember reading that going, you can't say that when you're the White House press secretary because that's not a true statement.
It's approved for emergency use authorization because we're in the middle of a pandemic.
So you know more than just a competition about vaccines, the risk impact...
Okay, here it is.
Misleads the public by falsely alleging that mRNA vaccines are untested and thus risky, even though many of them are approved and have gone through the gold standard of the FDA approval process.
Yeah, the Johnson& Johnson uses the old technology and Moderna and Pfizer, they use those ones that was developed by DARPA. Yeah, but the point is, it's like, it's not FDA approved.
So I had tweeted about it just because I wanted to see if other people had this experience, and maybe it's just me, maybe it's not.
So I got contacted by lots of people.
Same experience.
And I got contacted by a doctor who's leading a bunch of other doctors, a group of doctors, and studying this, and they just submitted a paper on people about the vaccine, right?
And so he tells me over at DM, this is what we think is happening.
This is a spike protein you're suffering from, a spike protein thing, and blah, blah, blah.
And go to see your doctor, and hopefully your doctor will work with us and give me ivermectin and fluvoxamine I'm taking for inflammation in my brain.
But they said, look, you have the same, you're right where a long-haul COVID person is.
Like whatever the markers were, I had the same thing.
You're right there.
And so I go to my doctor and I start to explain to my doctor about what this other doctor told me.
And my doctor says, oh, I'm treating five people just like you.
And one of them is a neurosurgeon and one of them is a nurse.
And they were afraid to talk about their symptoms because they were afraid to be ostracized and stigmatized.
And I'm like, what a messed up situation we're in in this culture when they politicize medicine where doctors and medical professionals are afraid to talk about their symptoms.
And especially the exact same companies that people were openly criticizing in the past and showing, pointing out lawsuits they've lost for hiding information about test results, about things that have happened during studies.
And these same people are now ignoring any possible side effects.
But because he's so divisive, like, everyone is still...
It's almost like...
Do you know, like, if you got in a fight with someone, like maybe your neighbor, and then you got in your car and there was a road incident, and you're like, get the fuck out of here!
It's like the whole country just got in a fight with the neighbor, like he's putting his trash can on your lawn, like, hey, you fuck, keep him on your own side, you piece of shit, and then you're in your car, fuck!
And this is like the whole country is like at eight, out the door, out the door, in their car, already at eight, on a scale of one to ten.
They're already ready to go.
And so whether it's the vaccine, or whether it's the border wall, or whether it's kids in cages, Or what the fuck, whatever it is, everybody's so goddamn angry and ready to go.
And then you deal with the economic crisis that a giant percentage of the country just went through over the past year, and then losing loved ones to this fucking disease, and all this chaos, and so many people who...
I've never experienced like high levels of adversity and all of a sudden they're confronted with it.
If you've played it safe your whole life, you've really never done anything risky, never taken any chances, you've had a regular life and a regular job, you play it safe.
And then all of a sudden now you're fucked and you're confronted with a perhaps deadly disease that might take you out and you got all these other problems in the world and everybody's like, ah, and they don't have the coping skills.
They don't have the ability to handle these things and that's where we find ourselves as a country right now.
And it's weird because then you have that with the echo chamber aspect of social media where everybody's just looking for positive reinforcement of their own ideas and confirmation bias.
But there was a guy that was from the Obama administration, or who it was, who was saying that he doesn't think he's going to make it in the next year.
So he doesn't think he's going to make it to a year into the White House.
him talking it's just amazing the way he just and so they had to get rid of him because he started in the 60s yeah so in chicago and he started to hang out and work with there was a bunch of young southerners right uh racist who came to chicago and they were also treated as outsiders because they had accents and they were from the south and so they were shit on just like uh fred hampton and And so he worked with them and he said, I had to show them that I was real.
And so when he started working with them, they were still carrying the Confederate flag.
And by after he worked with them, they dropped that shit.
And they dropped that racism stuff.
And they saw that they had a common interest.
And that's when they killed him.
When did they kill Martin Luther King?
Not when he was getting people to be able to ride in the front of the bus.
They killed him when he turned against the Vietnam War and was doing a poor people's campaign.
He was doing stuff for workers.
And that's when they killed him.
So when did they kill Malcolm X? When he realized white people are the enemy.
And we could all come together.
So as soon as, again, Joey, I saw it as soon as I interviewed a guy.
I literally trended on Twitter for three fucking days because I interviewed a guy.
People have interviewed David Duke on every goddamn news show and nobody ever trended because of it.
And it just goes to show me that that's how they try to shut me down.
They can't shut me down, and they don't know what to do, and I'm not stopping.
And just like the other day when I said, we got to make the squad uncomfortable, we got to make Bernie Sanders uncomfortable, because those are the people that we have influence over.
Those are the people we helped get elected.
Those are the people who ran on Medicare for All, and those are the people who are abandoning it.
Those are the people who won't use their leverage to give us anything.
Bernie could put a hold on a bill anytime he wants, and he won't do it.
He won't go against Joe Biden.
He's acting as if Joe Biden is his boss.
And that's why we're in the position.
Look at what Joe Manchin, all the power Joe Manchin has.
Everybody laments Joe Manchin like he's running the party.
Well, he's only running the party because the donors allow him to.
That with the rise of independent media, that we could get to the point where the people actually do have a voice, and it's not filtered through corporate media, and that it keeps getting, like, think about where your show was.
Think about all these different like breaking points with Crystal and Saga.
Think about what that's going to be like in 10 years.
Think of all these different shows that are independent shows.
If they get to a level where they have mainstream acceptance...
And the people do have a voice on things.
It could literally change all aspects of politics to the point where you're already looking at massively reduced ratings for a lot of these television shows now that Trump's not in office.
And people are saying, you know, Bill Burr went on this great rant the other day about how they're un-American because they literally want to talk about Trump because they want ratings.
They don't give a fuck.
Fuck about what the actual news is or what the impact of talking about is.
They just want those numbers because they're in the numbers business.
I hope that happens, but it seems like, now you know, you talked about it before, how they don't recommend, so they're suppressing independent news, and even the head of YouTube bragged about it, because they call us borderline content.
And so they say that we've reduced the recommendations of borderline content by 80%.
So it's borderline until the establishment media reports it.
Then it's not borderline anymore.
So if I say that the Syria gas attacks weren't real or that they were as a cover-up, they're going to consider that borderline until the establishment media agrees with me.
So they were telling me that they think that I have suffering from the same spike protein thing that you get when you get COVID, and that this somehow, the way they explained it to me, that this will go and clean out a macrophage, like the spike protein embeds itself in a macrophage, and then, so this goes in there and cleans it out somehow.
Because I know a guy who just got the COVID, and I told him, hey, you should get the ivermectin, and he said, I just talked to three doctors and they won't prescribe it.
What was explained to me is that it's like a dump truck, these spike proteins full of garbage, and they go around your body creating inflammation wherever they go.
Could a tool designed for prevention also serve as a treatment?
So, Aikiko Iwasaki, PhD professor of immunobiology at Yale School of Medicine and a major contributor to the existing body of COVID-19 research is among those now focused on generating hard data on vaccinated long haulers to help answer these questions.
She is currently working with other scientists to launch what she predicts will be a large collaborative study at Yale.
So, they're trying to figure this out.
But that's the thing about this disease.
It's like...
Whether or not it came out of a lab, it seems likely that that's a possibility at least.
It's a fucking weird disease, man.
It's weird.
Some people lose their sense of smell.
Some people don't.
Some people get horrible headaches and body aches.
Some people don't get shit.
I have a lot of friends that caught it and it just went in and out of their system.
My real estate lady, she didn't feel anything.
She had to get tested three times with the PCR tests and they said, yeah, you have it.
making people afraid to talk about it, and we have to stop making people afraid to recommend treatments, and we have to stop politicizing fucking medicine.
We have to be able to let people talk about what their experiences is from getting a vaccine or taking a medicine.
That's, again, you don't suppress data in the interest of science.
That's not how science works.
And so anybody getting mad, but people did get mad at me for saying this.
There's so many instances online of fake accounts I don't know how they're created.
I don't know what the purpose of them is, but there's documented multiple fake accounts, some of them with check marks, and that these fake accounts will go and go after a certain narrative.
And they'll either be a proponent or an opponent of certain narratives.
And it's so confusing because, like, is this happening?
Are these foreign entities?
Are these intelligence groups?
Because here's the thing about social media.
We know that it has insane amounts of power to influence people.
But we also know that the government knows this.
And we also know that foreign governments know this.
But I was under the understanding that the establishment wanted you to think that that was the government of Russia trying to do that to control our elections when in reality it was just a troll farm built to make accounts that you would follow and then they would spam you and they would try to sell you shit.
I think they definitely were using memes and they were definitely using fan pages.
They would put up a fan page of something that was very popular and they would get people to sign up for this fan page and then they would switch what the fan page is used for and then use it to promote certain ideas.
And they would pit people against each other.
They had a Texas separatist meeting that they organized across the street from a pro-Muslim meeting.
They did it on purpose.
It's almost like they're playing with people.
What is the end goal?
Is there many end goals?
Is it just to make unrest?
Is it some sort of long plan to get us at each other's throats?
Because it's fucking working.
If that's what the plan was, if the plan by all these foreign governments is to make Americans and pit them against each other like rabid dogs and use the fact that there are these echo chambers on the internet, And, you know, that's a terrible way to talk to people.
Online, when no one's there, in text, you have no idea what the context is.
You don't see their expression.
There's no social cues.
You don't know what kind of a person is writing this.
I think a lot of it is hyped up to make you afraid.
I'm sure when the printing press was invented, everybody was scared anybody could go print a paper.
Anybody could do it, and it's just like, to me, that's just what the Facebook is, Twitter, YouTube, it's just a printing press, and everybody could go print stuff.
But there's guys like that guy Brooklyn Dad Defiant, who's on Twitter, and it got outed that he's being paid by these nefarious organizations and stuff to tweet stuff.
But that's what's interesting about social media, right?
Is that they can get someone who's a good writer, who writes things that resonate with people, and either he's always...
Done that, and that's why he does it, or they find you and they give you money.
Like when you're talking about the squad, you're talking about people with all these radical ideas and very progressive ideas, but then they get into office, and they go, wait a minute, all I have to do is five years?
My favorite one was when her and Chuck Schumer wore the African garb and got on their knees and it turned out that the very patterns that they wore were from a tribe that was actively involved at the time in the slave trade.
But this is like what we were talking about before about these echo chambers and also about being attacked on social media that makes it so dangerous to share and exchange ideas.
Because you can't find out what's true unless people get to discuss things.
You hear both sides present their story and present their argument, then you have real accurate facts.
You have to know who's telling the truth and what's true and what's not true in terms of reporting on whatever incident you're discussing, and then people get to decide.
I mean, you know, there's a lot of people that work for the Democratic Party that work inside that probably had like these very lofty ideals about saving the world and being progressive and we're going to make the world a better place.
And then they get inside and they're like, holy shit!
What they're doing is they're trying to keep independent news.
This is my theory.
They're trying to keep independent news under a million subscribers because they don't want another hit piece from CNN or the Washington Post or New York Times saying, look at all these million subscriber borderline shows.
It's so weird that there's only one platform like that.
It seems like it's a no-brainer for someone to create a platform and say, hey, there's obviously some sort of suppression or some sort of censorship here that a lot of people are not...
Agreeable to.
Like, let's create another platform and let's get a lot of money behind it because there's so much money in YouTube.
And I remember he had a, I'll butcher it, but he had a, can you imagine him because they had those, remember they came out with those soft baked cookies?
And to see Jay on stage at 71, I mean, he could be 51, 41. It doesn't matter.
It's like, there's no time left.
Right.
It's really, honest to God, it is fucking thrilling to be on shows with him.
And then he goes up early on the second show and like at Saturday, he'll go up the second spot and he'll do 30. And then when he leaves, the audience is so happy because they're like, made a good decision tonight.
And so they're just like butter the rest of the night.
And I kind of miss when I would go up anonymously in front of a crowd, like when I would go to Tempe to open for somebody, like I opened for David Tell and stuff like that.
Well, one thing that I really did miss was stand-up, and I didn't realize how bad I missed it until we did it again.
We did a show out here, it was like back in November, when things were, it was right before I started doing the shows with Chappelle at Stubbs, which was his outdoor amphitheater, and we did a show at Vulcan.
And Ron White went up.
And the day, that day, Ron was like, I'm basically retired.
I'm just fucking, I'm basically retired.
I'm not really gonna do comedy anymore.
Fuck it.
I got money.
I'm gonna relax.
I'm gonna sell my plane.
He's saying all this stuff, and then he went on stage, and he, you know, Ron's a fucking professional.
All Jamie does is try to knock the ball as far as possible.
But when you're playing anything that requires a lot of concentration, there's a cleansing aspect to it.
Archery is something I love too for the same reason.
It's like when you're concentrating on just all your form and everything, all your technique is in line.
Cleans you out.
When you can think about something that overwhelms your concentration and requires you to be 100% present and in the moment, you're not checking your Twitter, you're not fucking seeing who's mad at you.
And he talked about how, and stop me if I told you this already, but if you're on a plane and you look out at the ocean and you see the white caps of the waves, well, you know that that's the white caps of the waves.
That's the crest of the waves.
You know that because you've seen it up close.
And so when you're in a plane and you see that, and he said, okay, so that's what the universe is.
The universe is...
The ocean, right?
It's one big consciousness.
Energy consciousness and then the crest of the wave are us everything you can see so there's this big energy and the crest of it is Everything you can see and I was like oh wow that was pretty heavy-duty and that's a and so I saw him he was talking to this guy Eckhart Tolle who I would love to interview and I can't get a hold of but he was talking to him and Eckhart Tolle is a mystic right he had an awake sudden awakening one night and he's an odd character Oh man.
And that created, he said, that created the space in my consciousness to kind of, whatever, see things differently.
He went to bed.
When he woke up the next day, he saw the coffee pot was vibrating.
He could see the world as like the matrix.
He could see all that shit, and he didn't realize what had happened, but his thoughts had slowed down.
He had stopped thinking by at least 80%, and he would just go and sit on a bench all day, and he would just be, and he would just be happy because he was present and part of, and he knew it, but he didn't know what had happened to him for like a couple years, and then he was talking to some Buddhists, and they told him, oh, you stopped your thoughts.
And so that's the thing.
They talk about it.
You can't stop.
I can't stop my thoughts.
And all I think about all day is thoughts.
And that's what the point of meditation is to get you to stop your thoughts.
You become present.
And you stop identifying with your thought because your thought isn't who you are.
And that's why performing stand-up comedy is the closest I come to it.
Stopping my thoughts and becoming present.
But Eckhart Tolle and that guy, the physicist, the physics guy, they're talking about the same thing, and they had talked about how they kind of came to the same realizations.
He came from quantum physics, and he came from mysticism, and they both see the same thing, the one energy, and it's remarkable.
All I knew was I woke up every day and it felt like everybody in my life had died.
Can you imagine if everyone you knew died?
That's how it felt like, oh, and there was just no light at the end of the tunnel.
And so then the next time that happened was when I had my bone problems and my spine shrank and I wanted to kill myself because I don't want to go through life like that.
And that's when I got my hour special.
So it was right then.
My manager calls me and goes, hey, Comedy Central is going to give you hour special.
And I was like, oh, motherfucker.
Because now I have to live.
I've got to do this special, because I've got to fucking stick it in the ass of all those people who told me I wasn't going to make it.
And all those people who said, you're an idiot doing comedy, why don't you get a fucking job?
And so I'm going to do this special, I'm going to stick it in their fucking air, and then I'm going to kill myself.
And how many people out there that are thinking about killing themselves really just need to get through whatever they're at right now and get some perspective on the other side of it?
Do you ever feel like when you get into these conflicts online and you get into these conflicts and you show that you're like disturbing your own consciousness and you're creating these negative...
I'm a big believer in that and I've avoided like attacks and stuff as much as possible because occasionally sometimes you just get so fucking frustrated.
I have to take it, and I'm going to, you know, the vote blue no matter who, and the shit libs are going to come at me no matter what, because I'm telling the truth about...
And the people always say, why don't you go after the Republicans more?
I go, because I don't have any influence on them.
That's not who I help get elected.
You know what I mean?
It's like I try to talk to them and convince them of my ideas, but the people who already are supposed to agree with my ideas and fight for them, and they're not, I'm going to fucking call that out.
And if they're not afraid of you, then you're doing something wrong.
And again, the only way you can influence a Democrat is to stop voting for them.
And I stopped voting for corporatist warmongers a long time ago.
And I think if we...
Look, for instance, what if we would...
Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump, and everybody voted for Hillary Clinton anyway, right?
Everybody on the Democrats, they vote for her.
She lost anyway.
Well, what if everybody who voted for Bernie Sanders, who was pissed off that she cheated him, and they cheated us, and they ran a crooked primary, what if those people withhold their vote from Hillary to make a statement, and then she lost by 15%?
We still would have had the same outcome.
Donald Trump was going to be president anyway.
But we would have had now power over the Democratic Party because now we made a statement.
We did exactly what Lawrence O'Donnell said.
Now they have to come to us.
They can't win without our vote.
Well, that's never going to happen.
But what might happen is that we can have a third party that starts polling at 10%, and now neither party can win without them.
So now you come to, see what I'm saying?
Because most Trump voters are for single payer and ending the war.
And the Democrat voters are the same.
So now who's going to vote for us?
And we can swing the election.
And that's the point.
So people say, well, you have to have a majority before you can get anything done.
You don't.
Just like the Freedom Caucus and the Tea Party proved, you can have a minority that has leverage.
So if we have a third party that starts, I'm working on this thing called the People's Party with Nick Braun.
If we have a third party that starts and starts polling at 10%, That's all you need to have leverage now.
And people go, well, I don't want to vote third party until there's already a lot of people voting for a third party.
Well, that's not how it fucking works.
To get a lot of people voting for a third party, you have to start.
Someone has to start.
And so I think if you keep voting for these two rapacious oligarchy parties, you are complicit.