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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. | ||
What's up, Joe? | ||
We're doing it. | ||
What's happening? | ||
Oh, it just started? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
We're rolling. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Good to see you, brother. | ||
Good to see you, too. | ||
Dude, you're like one of my longest-term comedy friends. | ||
We've known each other since the early years, man. | ||
I want to say like 91. Yeah, I think it's around 91. And what a lot of people probably don't even know is the way your TV career... | ||
Hardball. | ||
Yeah, you were on Hardball. | ||
Jim and I did a pilot for a sitcom that was on Fox in like 93. Yep. | ||
Right? | ||
Like 93? | ||
Yep. | ||
And Jim was the mascot of... | ||
For the opposing team. | ||
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Right. | |
And it was fucking hilarious. | ||
Goddamn, we had fun. | ||
I have a photo of you and I. We look like babies. | ||
I gotta find it. | ||
We look like babies. | ||
I would love to see that photo. | ||
Yeah, we were both like 26. And we were little cute-faced little babies. | ||
And I remember watching the show so excited for you. | ||
And then after Hardball, because I'd always follow you, you then... | ||
Was it news radio? | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And I'm like, Joe's on news radio. | ||
And I'd tell my wife and we'd watch like, we're so excited for Joe. | ||
And then just watching you just constantly grow and grow. | ||
And then when you started doing the UFC, I would tell my friends like, That's the real Joe. | ||
Like, that's Joe's innocence. | ||
And when you start doing this, I went, that's Joe Rogan, man. | ||
Meaning, this is... | ||
This is how I've known you forever. | ||
It's not like we've hung out all the time, but I remember just being in LA, just hanging out talking to you, and I couldn't relate to a lot of... | ||
You know, I wanted leather pants and a fucking white tiger walking down. | ||
I was chasing it all, whatever. | ||
Like, oh, stardom that way. | ||
What did you want? | ||
Dude, the first time I went to LA, I went into a place and I bought like satin blue clothes. | ||
Really? | ||
I wanted Eddie Murphy leather pants with like a tiger. | ||
I wanted to walk down Melrose with a tiger just so people could go, fuckers, successful. | ||
So you had some like high school boy, like the posters on the wall, like these kind of thoughts about success. | ||
Well, MTV showed me that because I wanted to be Judas Priest. | ||
I didn't know the guy was wearing an S&M outfit. | ||
No, but he did. | ||
He taught so many guys. | ||
He came out with a bullwhip. | ||
When he came out as gay, a lot of guys were like, hey, wait a minute. | ||
Oh! | ||
Duh! | ||
I mean, look how he's dressed. | ||
Give me a photo of Rob Halford. | ||
I met Rob Halford. | ||
He's a really nice guy. | ||
I did this VH1 show that I hosted once, and he was one of the guests on it. | ||
Super cool guy. | ||
Great guy. | ||
You got another thing coming? | ||
And... | ||
I would argue with people. | ||
They'd go, Brewer, you know this guy's gay. | ||
I'm like, no, he's not! | ||
Look at the chaps. | ||
You don't even see the chaps in that picture. | ||
You just see the top of them. | ||
He's got a bullwhip. | ||
He's wearing an S&M outfit. | ||
Look at that one. | ||
Go to that one with the open shirt. | ||
Right there. | ||
He's screaming, I'm gay. | ||
And I'm yelling at people going, no, he's not. | ||
He's metal, you moron. | ||
And the reason why I would argue is because I'd say, he doesn't have an earring in his right ear, because that's what defined what was gay. | ||
I had dangling cross earrings, so everyone that was gay knew, hey, Brewer is not gay, he's got it on the left side. | ||
But if you had it on the right ear, you're like, oh, this guy. | ||
Remember that? | ||
Of course I do! | ||
I remember, if you were a rock and roll guy, you were allowed to have one in two years. | ||
Yeah, and still, it was a little sketch. | ||
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For me, it was a little sketch, yeah. | |
Chatting your right ear. | ||
And if you had hoops, they couldn't be too big. | ||
I remember I got a hoop on my left ear and it was a little too big. | ||
And I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like, I don't know about that hoop. | ||
I'm glad I didn't know you at that point. | ||
I think Joe turned a corner. | ||
Something about that hoop. | ||
Yeah, something about Joe. | ||
He turned a corner. | ||
Yeah, Rob Halford got everybody to dress up like an S&M person. | ||
Dude, I swear in my life. | ||
I went to this little shop. | ||
I grew up in Long Island, and there was this little rock and roll shop named Slip Disc, and they sold the Rob Halford with the spikes. | ||
The glove? | ||
No. | ||
It was around the wristband, right? | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
And I remember going to order pizza, and I rolled my denim jacket, and I go... | ||
Let me get two slices. | ||
And I just would let everyone know, like, you see what the fuck I got on? | ||
You see what's going on, right? | ||
What a bunch of morons. | ||
That's why I can't get annoyed at my kids. | ||
Because I had a dangling cross-hearing. | ||
I'm wearing a denim jacket with painted Judas Priest on the back, and I think I know the world. | ||
I mean, that's... | ||
And I'm in LA, and I'm ready to wear leather pants. | ||
Every kid's got to be able to make their own fucking ridiculous mistakes like that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So, what I... I know you don't remember, but I remember being in LA with you. | ||
I don't know what the hell we... | ||
Maybe it was for the pilot. | ||
And I'm ready to go and go star humping and get my star on. | ||
And you're like, dude... | ||
Want to go to the gym? | ||
I went, the gym? | ||
Why would you want to go to the gym? | ||
We're in LA. He's like, bro, go to the gym. | ||
I'm going to the pool hall. | ||
You want to go to the pool hall? | ||
And you dragged me to the pool hall. | ||
And I was like, what am I doing? | ||
That was Hollywood Billiards. | ||
Yes! | ||
Famous place. | ||
But you stayed who you were. | ||
And that I always admired. | ||
I always admired that. | ||
Well, I got lucky. | ||
Those things didn't have an appeal to me, like going to parties and all that stuff. | ||
There was no appeal. | ||
For whatever reason, I just didn't find it interesting. | ||
I mean, occasionally, occasionally, go to a party, talk to some interesting people, it's fun. | ||
But for the most part, I felt like there was a lot of standing around. | ||
And in Hollywood, the conversations that were really interesting were few and far between. | ||
They weren't that... | ||
Like, I've been to parties at Friends House that have, like, really cool friends, and you meet interesting people, and you have, like, really fun conversations. | ||
But in Hollywood, it was a lot of, like, who you know, and what are you doing, and what we're planning, and how we're gonna take over, and... | ||
Did you hear who has a deal? | ||
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Ooh... | |
Oh my god, I know him. | ||
I could hook you up with that producer. | ||
Oh, the deal thing. | ||
And getting to know actors was such a... | ||
It was like these poor folks had... | ||
You know how a lot of kids today have a real problem with social media because they're looking at other people's stuff and other people's faces look perfect because they're wearing filters and they have this... | ||
They see other people partying and they have the FOMO, the fear of missing out. | ||
It's just... | ||
They're constantly comparing themselves to other people. | ||
Well, for actors... | ||
What I saw when I lived in the 90s in Hollywood, it was the Hollywood Reporter and Variety and all of the industry magazines. | ||
They would all sit around reading them the same way a jealous person looks at someone's Instagram. | ||
Like you look at some guy's car, he's got a fucking 69 Camaro, shit! | ||
Look at her with her Gucci bag and her this and her that. | ||
And they'd also flaunt. | ||
I remember being with some... | ||
I don't even want to give the person credit. | ||
So I'm working with some person and... | ||
What's her name rhyme with? | ||
Hats. | ||
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Hats. | |
So, Mr. Hatz, who's literally like a Dr. Seuss character anyway, would try to impress his people, and I'll never forget, he's like, I've got this brand new Lamborghini, you gotta check it out. | ||
And so I, but Mr. Hatz didn't buy a brand new Lamborghini, he bought a used one, and he goes to this lot, which is next to Jay Lentz, that's all they do is name drop, name drop, money, name drop. | ||
And so he's pulling out of the garage. | ||
The side view mirror starts dangling. | ||
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And he's six foot three. | |
So he's in his fucking thing like this. | ||
Hop over there, Papa. | ||
While I try to abuse more young minds like yourself and rape your ideas. | ||
So he hop in there. | ||
And then the thing bottomed out. | ||
Broke down two days later. | ||
But... | ||
Going to that distance just to show off is is just Exhausting some people they think that that's the only way in their head. | ||
They've ever made it They have to have that thing where they show I've got the Lamborghini I got the house in the Hollywood Hills Like here. | ||
I am like that's one of the reasons why people like to throw parties It's not just to have a bunch of people over the house to show you what they have like look and I was I think I was falling for that in the beginning I fell for it hard How'd you get out of it? | ||
I love the way you live. | ||
You live in New Jersey. | ||
You live in a nice, beautiful community with trees and shit, and everything's calm, and you're a family man. | ||
I love the fact that you just went, no, no, no. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
I grew up probably like the way you did. | ||
I don't know exactly. | ||
I grew up very blue collar. | ||
My dad was sanitation. | ||
My mom worked at the airport. | ||
We lived near JFK. And everyone looked after each other. | ||
It was a community. | ||
It was a family. | ||
You may not liked each other, but everyone... | ||
I thrived for that my whole life once I left it. | ||
Hollywood doesn't present. | ||
Nothing where it presents. | ||
So how did I leave it? | ||
I think it was, honestly, I think getting fired. | ||
Seeing too much of Hollywood, I got shot out of a cannon and I immediately had such a disgusting taste in my life. | ||
I wanted nothing to do with anybody. | ||
Yeah, you went from SNL to just going, fuck it. | ||
I'm just going to do stand-up. | ||
I'm going to do my radio show. | ||
I'm going to do stand-up. | ||
Right after, well, okay, so when you, at the end of the day, I didn't even want SNL. I didn't want SNL. You and I both know that was, nobody came out of there going, that's the greatest gig. | ||
It's very rarely people came out of there. | ||
They come out of there like they were in a fight. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Like they just got out of a fucking bar fight. | ||
Exactly. | ||
That's how Phil Hartman was. | ||
When I first started working with Phil Hartman in 94, he had just left SNL, and it took a while for him to be comfortable around us. | ||
The news radio people, the actors, were super friendly. | ||
Everybody liked to get hammered. | ||
It was like the big thing. | ||
We would get fucking blasted drunk. | ||
But we were all, like, really, like, in terms of, like, actors, genuinely supportive. | ||
Like, Dave Foley was the most supportive guy ever. | ||
Like, he was always writing jokes for you. | ||
He was always, like, rewriting scenes for you. | ||
Like, Jim, why don't you come in and say this instead? | ||
He would write, like, really great lines. | ||
But Phil was like, like he was in a competition at first. | ||
He thought like everybody was going to be competitive. | ||
And then he, once he relaxed, Phil liked to smoke weed. | ||
And once he relaxed, he's like, you know, going over there was like, everything was like dog eat dog and everybody's at each other's throats. | ||
It's dog-eat-dog, and there's no rhyme or reason. | ||
There's no rhyme or reason. | ||
It's just like politics. | ||
In other words, I can't help with Congress what bill they're going to pass. | ||
Even they know this is going to work. | ||
Nope. | ||
Same kind of stuff. | ||
It's the same exact thing. | ||
Because you're fighting to get your bits on, right? | ||
You're fighting to get your pieces on. | ||
You're fighting to get your little sketches on. | ||
Yeah, and the worst part is you know something's going to work. | ||
And you have someone come to you. | ||
Towards the end, it made me such a dark human being. | ||
Because I'm the, hey man, let's all be a team. | ||
When I worked with Hats, I said, let's look at this roster. | ||
Holy crap. | ||
Let's see who goes in the Boston Comedy Club. | ||
Let's just buy a script and put everyone in it and let them play to their strength. | ||
Wow, you know, this one. | ||
I'm like... | ||
I wish I had the business smarts to go back and do that because it would have been so much fun. | ||
Maybe it would have been disaster. | ||
Maybe I would have ended up getting leather pants. | ||
I got my fucking white lion leather pants. | ||
But it makes you so... | ||
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You know, I don't want to rehash bad memories. | |
You never got bitter, but you understood that bitterness is an option. | ||
Correct. | ||
And I start smoking an intense amount of pot. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Just to numb myself. | ||
I remember when you told me you quit. | ||
And you're like, dude, I'm hearing voices. | ||
I think the government's following me. | ||
You went so far. | ||
I went far. | ||
I went gym quit. | ||
But then I talked to him. | ||
I was like, oh, he might have went into Never Never Land. | ||
He went to the land of no return. | ||
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Well... | |
When you start thinking that the government is watching you... | ||
Non-stop. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Non-stop. | ||
They're on me because they know I think by myself. | ||
It's like the scene in Goodfellas. | ||
The goddamn fucking helicopter. | ||
I fucking love that scene. | ||
But I will say this. | ||
Yeah, I have... | ||
Have you returned to the fold? | ||
I haven't returned the way I have in the past. | ||
Oh, but a little bit. | ||
But I have... | ||
I have... | ||
You will never see me. | ||
It's very private. | ||
You're a private weed smoker? | ||
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Yeah. | |
How does that work? | ||
In other words, I don't do it with people anymore because it keeps the paranoia away. | ||
Because I don't trust anyone. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
I don't trust anyone. | ||
I still don't. | ||
And I haven't smoked smoked. | ||
I like... | ||
A little bit. | ||
I went out to Colorado and five little milligrams and ten little milligrams. | ||
Fives are nice. | ||
Those little edibles? | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Fives are nice. | ||
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Yes. | |
Just have that and go... | ||
Yeah, and then have like a martini. | ||
I'm sad. | ||
Yeah, a martini. | ||
Extra dirty? | ||
Not too dirty. | ||
I like it dirty. | ||
I like it not crazy dirty, but a little dirty. | ||
A little dirty. | ||
I like that olive juice. | ||
It's delicious. | ||
I do too. | ||
So, here's what happened. | ||
My wife... | ||
This is why my wife's a powerhouse. | ||
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She... | |
When you find someone that don't give a shit about the industry, and they only care about you, it's very hard... | ||
As an artist that's chasing a star, because you're always chasing the star, and you're always chasing the mansion, she would go, I'll never forget, she's like, why don't you just quit? | ||
Like, seriously, are you stupid? | ||
You don't QUIT, Cyanate Live! | ||
What the hell is- and she's like, look at you. | ||
You come home, you're miserable, they control everything, they steal your ideas. | ||
This one stole- I saw in my own two eyes how they treated you in this particular- How do they steal your ideas? | ||
Here we go. | ||
I'll give you- You sure you don't want to get high first? | ||
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No. | |
Let's go take a pee break. | ||
Let's take a pee break. | ||
No, here's... | ||
And again, I've released all this. | ||
Okay. | ||
You know, I got a strong moral backbone. | ||
I'm good. | ||
So, no, I don't have any bad feelings. | ||
What happened was, and I'm not going to put out... | ||
I don't want to hash names and all that, but what would happen is something like this. | ||
You're writing a sketch. | ||
And then one of the head writers would come in in the doorway and go, Hey, I see you're writing a sketch about blah, blah, blah, because we have the main server and we check everyone's sketches. | ||
I just want to let you know I'm writing the same thing. | ||
He goes, You can continue yours, but, you know... | ||
I'm in the room with Lorne. | ||
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I'm just... | |
Whoa. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
So this is at... | ||
So they would go onto the server, they would see the sketches that you're writing, and then... | ||
Then there was times where a cast member would come in and look at my board and... | ||
And go, oh, what does that mean? | ||
Like, oh, that's a sketch. | ||
And I know so-and-so's coming. | ||
And I know the ratings are going to be high that week. | ||
So I'm waiting to bring my A stuff for that. | ||
Everyone's going to come out with their fangs out when this one's on. | ||
So I'm going to save that sketch for when they're on. | ||
And then this person would ask me, oh my god, what exactly? | ||
I said, well, I'm going to take it out of its element. | ||
Back then, I was like, Pesci. | ||
And I'm like, Pesci's gonna read to children about Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and explain why his nose is red. | ||
And the big joke is because he's a rat and I compare it to a whole neighborhood. | ||
He's a rat. | ||
That's why his nose is red. | ||
And so you end up beating certain kids, blah, blah, blah. | ||
The next week... | ||
The whole room is set, and you're sitting there, and then this person, you know, Lauren goes, next sketch is, you know, Al Pacino, a Scarface, reading to schoolchildren, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. | ||
And you go... | ||
And you look, you see their eyes are down. | ||
You know what's going on. | ||
You know what happened. | ||
And you can't say anything. | ||
Well... | ||
When you say something, which I eventually did, dude, I think I may be, and I want to challenge all SNL cast and writers, I may be the last one that threatened violence. | ||
I was in a room... | ||
With one of the guys, and I literally said, I will knock your fucking teeth down your fucking throat, you motherfucker! | ||
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If you don't want to fucking be here, get the fuck out! | |
You don't shit on my shit because you don't want to fucking... | ||
Oh, dude. | ||
And I told him, I'm knocking his fucking teeth down his throat. | ||
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I'm not from the writing world. | |
so that's where that place brought me wow and so and that particular instance was see now i'm getting all over that's got to be coming from the top down because the when when i got alone with phil like phil and i became close and you know we would hang out together especially in his his dress room he had a nice dress room had it all set up had a guitar looking at his aviation books and shit and And we would talk about his time there. | ||
And he's like, it just made me bitter and angry. | ||
Yes! | ||
Yeah, but it seems like it's always been that way. | ||
That it's been from the top down. | ||
And this particular... | ||
What year were you on? | ||
95 to 98. So you were on right after Phil left. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because I was with Phil in 94. And so when that person did that, I then went up to them and I waited. | ||
And I was like, you motherfucker... | ||
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He goes, I didn't, no, I didn't take it. | |
Now this one also is getting more airtime because they're in with this specific head writer. | ||
And then the head writer comes to me, hey man, leave him alone. | ||
I go, hey man, stop him from stealing. | ||
Well, you know, I don't care what he does, just leave him alone during my sketches. | ||
It's like you're in high school. | ||
And so, yeah, it makes you... | ||
I remember doing something where I played a drunk guy. | ||
And I didn't know exactly how to do it, but I always wanted to be another Foster Brooks. | ||
I loved Foster Brooks. | ||
He made me laugh. | ||
You know who he is? | ||
Do you remember Foster Brooks? | ||
No, I don't. | ||
Dude. | ||
The Foster Brooks... | ||
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Do you know who he is? | |
Dean Martin, the airplane. | ||
This guy was the greatest drunk in history. | ||
In history. | ||
He was belly laughing funny to the point where I don't believe he was sober, even though clearly he was just doing a character. | ||
He was the greatest drunk character in history. | ||
That's Foster Brooks? | ||
That's Foster Brooks. | ||
I have no idea who this guy is. | ||
Are you kidding me? | ||
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See now... | |
So he was playing a drum. | ||
Yeah, yeah, but he's... | ||
He's overdone the character by this sketch. | ||
You gotta go back when he's doing the airplane. | ||
There's an airplane sketch where he does, and this is when he first started coming out. | ||
So long story short, I wanted to do another Foster Brooks type thing. | ||
So I did the character. | ||
I'm not a great writer. | ||
I'm not a good writer at all. | ||
But, like, I'll come up with a character and try to... | ||
And if we could put it somewhere, great. | ||
And I remember the writer coming up saying, yeah, Lauren doesn't like drunks because, you know, the past and John and blah, blah, blah. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
And then two weeks later... | ||
John Belushi, I mean? | ||
Yeah, I guess that's what he meant. | ||
And then two weeks later, it's the drunk character. | ||
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I'm like, dude, what the... | |
It's little things that mind screw you like that. | ||
So by the time the big finale was towards the end, someone told me... | ||
You know what Sandler did? | ||
Sandler went through this. | ||
Everyone went through this. | ||
Comedians go through this. | ||
What you got to do is get on the update and you got to do everything you can to go on the update and everything you can to get in the opening monologue because the headwriters can't mess with you. | ||
He goes, that's not really their department. | ||
That is so crazy that that's something you have to think about. | ||
So then that's why I started doing it. | ||
If you notice in 98, I started getting more monologues. | ||
And then even there, they were like, we got this. | ||
And then it was a final monologue. | ||
It was Matthew Broderick. | ||
And it was when Matthew Broderick was on, he couldn't get through some of the sketches I was doing with him. | ||
He'd start laughing. | ||
And so when we went to... | ||
He really wanted to do this monologue with me. | ||
And this one... | ||
These particular head writers were like, no, we're not doing it. | ||
Although Matthew was like, I want to do Jim's. | ||
I want to do Jim and Tracy's. | ||
And... | ||
There was two, three sketches we had together, and he laughed during the dress. | ||
Like, he couldn't keep a straight face. | ||
And then I remember this particular writer I had a problem with. | ||
I didn't have a problem. | ||
He just didn't like it. | ||
Whatever. | ||
He had a hard arm for me. | ||
Whatever. | ||
I don't understand ego. | ||
If you've got an ego, that is what it is. | ||
And he said, yeah, it's too bad he laughed because now we don't know if it works. | ||
So that's going to be cut and it's cut. | ||
And listen, we filmed the monologue. | ||
It worked, but we're going to go with my monologue during the air show. | ||
I was like, you know what, man, I'm going to talk to Lauren. | ||
He goes, no, you're not. | ||
I said, no, I'm talking to Lauren now. | ||
I'm not afraid to talk to Lauren anymore. | ||
Because that's another thing. | ||
It's like, you know, I'll talk to the president. | ||
Don't talk to the president. | ||
They put this... | ||
So he would say, no, you're not, and you're going to talk to Lauren? | ||
Yeah, 100%. | ||
We'll talk to him. | ||
No, we'll both go talk to him. | ||
And then I knew right from that minute I was done. | ||
I knew I was done. | ||
And then that summer, this guy named Gary Considine, he ran The Tonight Show, and he said, Jim, what happened, dude? | ||
I said, what's the matter? | ||
He goes, so-and-so and so-and-so are really saying you're out. | ||
And I went, really? | ||
I go, well, I'll tell you what. | ||
I don't want to be there anymore. | ||
My wife's like, just please quit. | ||
She goes, you said in your life, if any job, no matter how much money it paid, makes you a miserable human being and changes the person you are, you weren't going to work there. | ||
She's like, look at you. | ||
You're angry all the time. | ||
You smoke pot all the time to numb yourself. | ||
You're not Jim anymore. | ||
Where's the goofy, uplifting Jim? | ||
And I wanted to... | ||
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I wanted to... | |
Like, you're so stupid, but... | ||
You're so stupid. | ||
But she was so smart. | ||
She was so smart. | ||
And it was the greatest. | ||
And I give Lorne a lot of credit. | ||
Because Lorne said to me... | ||
Jim, you're too nice for this business. | ||
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Wow. | |
And he said... | ||
Which I'll never forget. | ||
It was a couple things Lorne said, and I never blamed Lorne. | ||
I always really admired Lorne. | ||
I said, uh... | ||
Oh, he goes, and if you ever want to do something, I'm your producer. | ||
I'll produce it for you. | ||
Which I never took that opportunity up, but I'll never forget when he said that to me. | ||
So I was very thankful that he was understanding and let me go. | ||
You know, Mitch Hedberg had a great line once about how when you're a comic, everybody wants you to be an actor. | ||
You know, remember that bit? | ||
Yes. | ||
It's so true because as a comic, you're such a great comic and you're so funny. | ||
Your comedy is so wild and it's so uniquely you. | ||
Like, even though you were great on SNL, you're so much better as a comic. | ||
That's your world. | ||
It's my world. | ||
And no one can fuck with you and you could do the whole thing yourself and then people come to see it for what it is. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah, and you don't have to deal with Weasley writers. | ||
And if I fail, I can live with that. | ||
I can live with my failure. | ||
The environments that they created in all the different seasons of SNL, and I don't know from firsthand experience, but from everybody that I know that's worked there, it's been this super competitive, toxic, political, backstabby sort of a thing that you become like those show business cliches if you fall into it. | ||
And to be honest with you, Joe, when I would see... | ||
Each week, you'd see a new celebrity, like you do. | ||
You see people come in and out of here. | ||
So you start... | ||
I'm sure there's things that you see and you go, how does the world have no clue that this person's like that? | ||
Or maybe you don't, but I would see so many come in and I'd go... | ||
How does no one know... | ||
No, that guy's a cunt. | ||
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Yes. | |
And how does no one know this one's a militant gay? | ||
Which, if that's what you are, fine. | ||
But they hide it. | ||
But they hide it. | ||
It's weird. | ||
And how does this one get away with being a drug addict? | ||
And how does this one get away with... | ||
Having very suspect, clearly, hookers come in of the male kind. | ||
I remember this one particular, and I walked in, and I told Dee, I don't know if this person was... | ||
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Maybe they were 18. I don't know. | |
Oh, no. | ||
And I remember them coming in like, is so and so here? | ||
And I looked down and went, yeah, there are dressing rooms over there. | ||
I was like, oh, wow. | ||
And you could tell they were prostitutes? | ||
Yeah. | ||
They weren't coming to talk politics. | ||
How do you know? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Maybe they're just really good at politics, but also very... | ||
Maybe they were therapists. | ||
Yes. | ||
They could have been therapists. | ||
Maybe they were foot massagers. | ||
You know what? | ||
They could have been a foot massagist, and they could have been teaching them how to make certain crochets or paper airplanes. | ||
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I don't know. | |
That's got to be the saddest one when you wish that you could just be yourself, but you can't. | ||
I feel terrible for gay guys in show business that are still trapped, and I have a few friends that are great guys, but they just feel like if they come out that people won't look at them the same way. | ||
I'm like, man, they'll love you more. | ||
I agree. | ||
Dom Herrera had the best line. | ||
And he goes, I wish I was in the closet. | ||
That's how little I give a fuck. | ||
He goes, I would love to come out. | ||
He goes, if I was gay, I'd be so happy to come out of the closet. | ||
I don't give a fuck. | ||
You know who I'd always tried was Meany. | ||
Kevin Meany, he made me laugh so hard. | ||
I got stoned with Kevin. | ||
It was one of the hardest I ever laughed in my life. | ||
So this was before he came out? | ||
Before he came out. | ||
Did you know he was gay? | ||
Not... | ||
He didn't admit... | ||
I knew. | ||
You knew something was going on. | ||
Yeah, because when he'd come on my radio show... | ||
This is what they... | ||
What a lot of gay people... | ||
Or if you're into drugs... | ||
Like, I'll sit here and I'm like, you know... | ||
It'd be great if I was high right now. | ||
And that's my cue... | ||
I'm putting it out there for someone to go, oh, do you want to get hot? | ||
Oh, no! | ||
You know, when it comes to penis... | ||
Oh, are you... | ||
No, I'm just... | ||
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I just threw the joke out there. | |
And so he would... | ||
He, along with two other people I knew, would always put certain references out. | ||
I would see this other person. | ||
This person would... | ||
I remember spending time with them. | ||
We had a condo, and they came out, and they had their donkey hanging out. | ||
And I went, dude, what are you doing? | ||
And he's like, is this an intimate? | ||
I went, no! | ||
Intimidating? | ||
I went, I've never hung out with another male friend that walks around holding his donkey showing it to another male. | ||
It's weird, dude. | ||
Do girls do that? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't think they do. | ||
No! | ||
Your pussy's hanging out? | ||
There's a lot of other issues. | ||
There's issues! | ||
Something's going on there. | ||
Something's happening. | ||
You need a friend. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You need a friend. | ||
So, Kevin would... | ||
He's talking about show tunes, and he's talking about- He's wearing a bow tie. | ||
He's wearing a bow tie, enough said. | ||
And I'm like, I love you, man. | ||
And I said, is there something you want to say? | ||
Because I think the world is okay with it. | ||
He's like, what do you mean? | ||
Kev. | ||
You can't get a guy to say that. | ||
No, not at Ray. | ||
But that's two. | ||
I try to get things to mind. | ||
When I was, I think I was 18 or 19, I went to see Kevin Meaney at Catch a Rising Star in Cambridge, Massachusetts, when he was on Top of the World. | ||
I don't know if it was a 21 club. | ||
I don't know if I was 21 yet. | ||
I don't think I was, because it was my friend from high school, Diane DeRosa. | ||
And we went there and he was so funny. | ||
I couldn't calculate it in my brain. | ||
I didn't understand how he was so funny because, you know, it was like, we're big pants people! | ||
We wear big pants! | ||
He had that whole big pants bit. | ||
My God, dude, it was like I couldn't breathe. | ||
No one could breathe. | ||
He destroyed in a way that it's hard to imagine someone killing that hard. | ||
And it was all like he was so comfortable and loose. | ||
He was on fire back then. | ||
Yeah, he was. | ||
This was before I did stand-up. | ||
I was just going to see stand-up then and watching it. | ||
And I remember thinking, God, I don't even know what that guy did. | ||
It was some kind of wizardry. | ||
The first guy that made me laugh like that in person hard was Richard Jenney. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
And this guy would talk about a bottle of water and hit it. | ||
And every time I think he's done, he'd come out with it. | ||
He'd just keep going. | ||
He was so good in the 80s, people don't know. | ||
He was a monster. | ||
A monster. | ||
I worked at Eastside Comedy Club. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They told me that he did four different hours. | ||
Never repeated a joke. | ||
Two shows Friday, two shows Saturday. | ||
And every comic was sitting around afterwards like they should quit. | ||
They were like, fuck, I should just quit. | ||
I never, ever. | ||
And you know what? | ||
Right before he took himself out, I learned... | ||
He taught me a lesson. | ||
Because even when I had my radio show... | ||
I'm still chasing vanity a little bit and ego, whatever. | ||
And he's on my radio show and he's going... | ||
He's asking me about whatever and I went... | ||
I said, you know, I'm looking up to you and this and that. | ||
And I go, but still, you know, this is cool, but I want X, Y, and Z. And he just looked at me with this dead stare and he goes... | ||
A guy with his own radio show. | ||
And he still wants more. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He wasn't kidding. | ||
No, he wasn't kidding. | ||
And the way he said it, I was like, oh, wow. | ||
It went right through me. | ||
And then, you know, it was a couple months later. | ||
I might have helped him. | ||
I might have been his last little glimmer of hope. | ||
I totally blew that one. | ||
I ran into him a short while before he killed himself on a plane, on a flight, just randomly. | ||
He was sitting right in front of me. | ||
I'm pretty sure we were coming from Austin, too. | ||
I think he was doing a corporate gig, and I think I was doing Cab City. | ||
And I'm pretty sure it was Austin. | ||
And I remember sitting there talking, like, hey Rich, what's up? | ||
How you doing? | ||
I was in town doing a corporate gig, and he always looked like a little out of place. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
Always like you felt like you shouldn't be there, a little, you know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
So, I got a question for you. | ||
So, when you do your shows... | ||
Stand-up shows? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I've seen you doing them with Chappelle, right? | ||
Do you touch any political stuff whatsoever? | ||
Not necessarily. | ||
I don't think politics are very funny. | ||
Me either. | ||
And I think the division that we have in this country is very disturbing. | ||
And I think there's a weird, almost like a mental contagion that's going on through this country of division, of left versus right, where people are choosing sides and people are... | ||
You know, either everyone's a communist or everyone's a racist. | ||
It's like there's these absolutes that people are trying to describe people in these ways and it's very disturbing to me because I don't think I've ever been a part of... | ||
For sure, I've never seen society this divided. | ||
And where do you think that comes from, honestly? | ||
Social media. | ||
It's a big part of it. | ||
It's a big part of it. | ||
It's a big part of looking for like-minded groups and finding them and also being afraid to deviate from any lines that have been established. | ||
Like, if you don't agree with this, you're a that. | ||
If you don't agree with that, you're a this. | ||
And there's these people getting these echo chambers. | ||
And then there's these algorithms that unfortunately feed into natural human patterns of behavior, which is to gravitate towards things that infuriate you. | ||
So whether it's Facebook, did you ever see The Social Dilemma? | ||
No, I heard about it. | ||
It's great. | ||
You should watch it. | ||
I heard about it. | ||
It's so disturbing because they're essentially setting this up, and it reinforced how I felt and explained things even better to me. | ||
And in that documentary, what they're essentially saying is that if this keeps going, we're on the verge of civil war, that these social media algorithms, whether it's for Instagram or Twitter, and the way these things affect the human mind And how these people are profiting off of this stuff in a massive, massive way, that they're leaning us closer and closer towards the ultimate division, like literally a civil war. | ||
And I feel that way. | ||
I really do feel that way. | ||
And what about regular media, though? | ||
Do you think they're also part of, if not sometimes more, the culprit? | ||
The problem with regular media is they're so often full of shit, yet they are trusted by way too many people. | ||
And I think there's less trust now than ever before. | ||
You know, did you see the shit that the Washington Post had to just retract? | ||
That they had attributed a bunch of quotes to Trump After the election with Georgia that turned out to be false, like he never said them. | ||
And one of them was like, find the fraud. | ||
And he told the person they would be a national hero. | ||
Well, then they got the audio recording. | ||
And by the way, just to be clear, he did say a lot of things that he should not have said. | ||
There was a lot of shit that he said that is egregious. | ||
But this is one particular one that they attributed to him that was not true. | ||
He never said it. | ||
They got the audio recording of the actual phone call. | ||
And basically what he said is, you're doing the most important job in the world, counting these ballots. | ||
He did not say, find the fraud. | ||
He didn't say these things that they were attributing to him. | ||
And so for months, since December, they've been saying this, that he said these things. | ||
And here we are in March, and they finally have to retract it. | ||
When the audio recordings come out. | ||
But it means that someone who was an anti-Trump person, who was like an unnamed source, gave them these quotes and then they printed them. | ||
This is our trusted media. | ||
That's a real problem. | ||
It's a real problem. | ||
And people, this is the greatest time in human history... | ||
Where there's absolutely zero thinking. | ||
When I say zero thinking and or, you're put in fear of thinking. | ||
I'll give you a little example. | ||
I had... | ||
I came in, I had to have a COVID test before I walked in here, right? | ||
So I was talking to your nurse, and I said, I had it. | ||
I had it in December, and I didn't tell anyone, because I put it on social media, and I put it everywhere, because I didn't want people like, oh, we're going to cancel shows, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
It's just the hysteria that goes along. | ||
How bad was it? | ||
It was like a very mild sinus infection. | ||
It's what Jamie had, basically. | ||
It started in my nose, and then I had a little like... | ||
I had one of those. | ||
But I immediately, from the past, anytime I get sick, I'm traveling, so I know I've been sick on the road. | ||
I immediately put a nose spray, constant cleaning, and I have an inhaler, like a steroid... | ||
To get my lungs going. | ||
So I started that. | ||
The next day, body felt like I was getting something, which I've had in the past. | ||
I don't get the chills. | ||
My skin gets really sensitive. | ||
And then after that, a little tired, but I can breathe. | ||
But clearly, I had a sinus infection. | ||
That's the best way to describe it. | ||
Now, here's the thing. | ||
And I gave it to my wife and my youngest daughter. | ||
And my other two daughters were like, we're out of here. | ||
We're getting tested. | ||
They both negative. | ||
Shroom! | ||
They left the house. | ||
We're out of here! | ||
And they got bubbles around their head and wearing their space outfits. | ||
So they're gone. | ||
My youngest one comes home from school and she has to take a test and they say, you're positive. | ||
And she was. | ||
She clearly got sick. | ||
My wife's sick. | ||
I'm sick now. | ||
None of us I have an infectious disease doctor in New Jersey. | ||
His specialty is infectious disease. | ||
I said, Doc, my daughter is positive. | ||
I clearly gave it to her. | ||
He goes, you need to get tested before I see you. | ||
I said, okay, well, it's a two, three-day wait. | ||
In the meantime, do you have anything? | ||
He goes, take vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc. | ||
He goes, do you have a high fever? | ||
I went, no. | ||
He goes, do you have trouble breathing? | ||
I went, no. | ||
He goes, then don't worry about it. | ||
So part of me started getting infuriated. | ||
I said, so you're telling me the world is shutting down and you're telling me to take vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc? | ||
He goes, I need you to get the test. | ||
Okay, I'll get the test. | ||
I'm a little aggravated. | ||
I just want something to get rid of this. | ||
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Okay, that's all I want. | ||
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Right. | |
So now it's going on the second week. | ||
And this thing's annoying because I'm taking 2,000 D's and 3,000 C's and zinc and A and whatever he's telling me to do. | ||
My daughter is getting better. | ||
My wife still can't. | ||
D can't smell or taste. | ||
And she's got stage 4 cancer. | ||
So she's like super high. | ||
She's doing great and all that. | ||
But she's doing great. | ||
She's on a trial. | ||
She's crushing it. | ||
So if anything, she's the most danger because of her immune system. | ||
Week 2. I get a test. | ||
The same test I just took here, which is a very reliable test. | ||
And I told my doctor, hey man, it's official. | ||
I tested positive. | ||
Which test did you take? | ||
I said, I took the rapid because I can't... | ||
I don't accept that one. | ||
You don't accept that? | ||
Infectious disease doctor, you don't accept... | ||
That test. | ||
What did he want? | ||
The PCR test? | ||
He wanted, yeah, whatever. | ||
He's got to go to a lab. | ||
Now we're going on day 12. Are you still telling me to take vitamins and stuff? | ||
So finally, I said, I'm not doing that test because then I got to go in the state and the system. | ||
And they called looking for my daughter. | ||
Can we speak to your daughter? | ||
No, you may not. | ||
Well, is she doing the appropriate things? | ||
I have it as her father. | ||
Well, what is she doing? | ||
Go fuck yourself. | ||
That's what she's doing. | ||
You don't call my house. | ||
Government, you just overstepped your boundaries. | ||
You're just here to protect me, not to come knocking on my door to ask me what I'm doing and how I'm treating my 16 year old. | ||
It's a very frightening place to be. | ||
Now with that said, I then ask, hey man, what can we do? | ||
He goes, I need that other test. | ||
And I went, I'm not getting the other test. | ||
So I called a friend, said, I'll get you something by tomorrow. | ||
I got stuff by the next day, and in two days that stuff was clear. | ||
So I started asking her, Why don't people... | ||
And I just left the town of Chester, New Jersey, and there's about 15 of us, a group, that formed this community during the whole COVID. And this one woman just got it. | ||
And she got hospitalized. | ||
And I went, whoa, what happened? | ||
And she said, I waited 12 days, and then I had a problem. | ||
I started freaking out breathing. | ||
Went to the hospital, they gave me steroids and antibiotics, and it cleared right up. | ||
So my question is, why do you have to test positive to wait to get antibiotics or steroids if neither one of them hurt you or kill you? | ||
Wow, you're still waiting to see what this does. | ||
And she didn't have an answer. | ||
And she's like, that's a great question. | ||
I go, it's a simple, it's just a question. | ||
So if I'm a doctor, and Joe Rogan comes to me and says, hey, man, my daughter's positive, I have sinus, are you having trouble? | ||
No, well, I can give you this, because I know it's not going to kill you, and I know it's going to be, I'm going to give you antibiotics, and hopefully in two, three days it will clear up. | ||
And if it gets worse, then we'll take care of it then, because clearly this is not going to make you worse. | ||
So why isn't that being done? | ||
And then my other question was, if that doctor, an infectious disease doctor, doesn't allow that test, how many people take that test and it counts as a number, but yet it doesn't count? | ||
So what is really going on, is my question. | ||
There's a lot of confusion, a massive amount of people. | ||
There's a disease that kills some folks. | ||
And there's a disease that we, in the beginning stages of this pandemic, thought was going to be far more severe than it turned out to be. | ||
And they never adjusted. | ||
That's the problem. | ||
The problem is, it's still not good. | ||
You know, you don't want to catch COVID. But the vast majority of people who get it will be fine. | ||
78% of the people that are hospitalized are obese. | ||
The obese people have a real hard time with it. | ||
There's 6% of the people who died from COVID only had COVID. Can you repeat that number? | ||
Six percent. | ||
One more time. | ||
Six percent of the people who died from COVID only had COVID. The other 94 percent had an average of 2.6 comorbidities. | ||
So almost three. | ||
More than two and a half comorbidities, meaning like obesity. | ||
There's a bunch of different things that people have. | ||
Diabetes is a big one. | ||
Alzheimer's. | ||
There's a lot of comorbidities that are very dangerous if you get COVID. I'll tell you another one. | ||
So another one of our friends, his name is Rob. | ||
He's a mess, bro. | ||
Gout three times a year. | ||
He's a mess. | ||
He's totally heavy dude, blah, blah, blah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
July, he says, don't come near me. | ||
I have a sinus infection. | ||
And we all went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
Rob's off limits. | ||
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Whoop, whoop. | |
Rob's dying. | ||
We're laughing. | ||
Rob died. | ||
He's got it. | ||
He's done. | ||
We said, you should really go check that out, Rob. | ||
We don't hear from Rob. | ||
Next thing, me and my wife went to Maine, went on a mountain. | ||
We were on a lake. | ||
I felt like if I die, that is where heaven's going to be, is that trip with my wife. | ||
I come back. | ||
Do you hear what's going on, Rob? | ||
He's in the hospital. | ||
What? | ||
He's on the ventilator one. | ||
What? | ||
Now, he was a crazy Trump guy. | ||
He was like, Trump, Trump. | ||
He was full-blown. | ||
I would go there. | ||
I'm like, oh my God, these guys are talking politics again. | ||
Please get off here. | ||
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Every morning, it's like, ah, ah, ah, the liberals, the Democrats, ah, ah, ah, ah, nonstop. | |
Like, oh, my God, I just want to have a muffin and relax. | ||
So, with that, and, dude, I got caught up, too. | ||
I would be a liar if I said I wasn't caught up in some stuff for a while. | ||
I was on the internet like, dude, my dude JFK's coming back! | ||
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I was, of course, it makes all sense in the world. | |
I was, I was in, right? | ||
And, But this guy was like, if I ever get, I'm taking hydrochloroquine. | ||
All right? | ||
So now, and this is all still going, by the way, he gets admitted to the hospital. | ||
And here comes my next question. | ||
And there is an ending to this story. | ||
He gets admitted. | ||
They say he's got brain damage from COVID. It's brain damage. | ||
Well, this is the information we're getting. | ||
Like, what? | ||
What do you mean? | ||
Brain damage? | ||
Yeah, he's not going to be able to walk. | ||
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What? | |
He has brain damage. | ||
Then it turned out he had strokes. | ||
The COVID caused strokes. | ||
Then it turned out, no. | ||
He asked for a specific drug. | ||
They said, we can't give it to you in the state of Jersey. | ||
And we're going to have to do testing before we can do stuff. | ||
Next thing you know... | ||
The guy's on high blood pressure, pills, and all that. | ||
They didn't give him his meds. | ||
He's stroked out. | ||
Cut to... | ||
He's brain dead. | ||
His wife can't... | ||
His wife and 11-year-old, 13-year-old have to say goodbye to him before they pull the plug. | ||
They're not allowed to be with him. | ||
They have to FaceTime. | ||
So here's a question for you. | ||
No, this is going somewhere, bro, right? | ||
Thank God... | ||
One of our crew said, please send this person there just one last look. | ||
The specialist shows up, said, he's not brain dead. | ||
He's dehydrated. | ||
Who's been taking care of this patient? | ||
And who said he was COVID? I want everything. | ||
Gets everything, said, I need the wife and children in here. | ||
Oh, well, it's against our... | ||
What's keeping you safe? | ||
What's keeping you safe? | ||
Bring his family in here. | ||
His family talks to him. | ||
His heart rate starts going up. | ||
In a week, he opens his eyes and communicates for the first time. | ||
And six weeks later, he now stands up for the first time. | ||
It was October. | ||
He finally got out. | ||
And he's still taking physical rehab. | ||
I got pictures of him, videos of him and all that jazz. | ||
But he's recovering. | ||
So the point of my story is two things. | ||
They were ready to let him die. | ||
They were willing. | ||
They already said he's dead and you can't visit him. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
What kind of fucking hospital is this? | ||
It's in New Jersey. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
But my question is this. | ||
When it comes to not being able to see elderly in elderly homes, or you've got to quarantine and all that, what keeps the workers safe? | ||
What keeps the, quote, heroes safe? | ||
And why can't you allow someone with a human touch Because when you're at your weakest moment in time, you need a human. | ||
You need pure love. | ||
You need that child. | ||
You need your mother to come visit you. | ||
They're the ones, even if you're in your house, and the fact that they are stopping that is pure evil in my mind. | ||
It has nothing to do with safety. | ||
And if it is safety, then stupidity. | ||
And at the end of the day, it's evil. | ||
There is no protocol. | ||
It's stupidity, in my opinion. | ||
I understand what you're saying. | ||
I think in the general sense, they're trying to protect people from getting infected. | ||
Well, what keeps the people that works there infected? | ||
Nothing. | ||
Well, then what keeps... | ||
Well, there you go. | ||
You just answered it. | ||
I mean, they wear the tightest masks that you can, but there's other things you can do. | ||
Then give it to the child and the mom and dad. | ||
Exactly. | ||
No, I'm with you. | ||
I'm with you 100%. | ||
If your kid was dying, Joe... | ||
Yeah. | ||
You're going to allow them to keep you from seeing them? | ||
No. | ||
No. | ||
I'm going to do my best. | ||
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Right? | |
You're going to smash that door down, bro. | ||
I'll tell you that right now. | ||
You're going to have to arrest me. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You're going to have to arrest me. | ||
So... | ||
I feel the same way. | ||
I know what you're saying. | ||
You've got to question everything. | ||
But you're right about the touch, about love and about having hope and having someone come visit you. | ||
Despair is terrible for the immune system. | ||
All that stuff is... | ||
Do you know what a nocebo is? | ||
You know what that means? | ||
No. | ||
It's the opposite of placebo. | ||
A placebo effect is they give you a sugar pill and it makes you think that you're doing well. | ||
And you're like, oh. | ||
And then all of a sudden your symptoms improve and you actually get better. | ||
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Because your body... | ||
Is on a positive trip, right? | ||
Your body's like, oh, Jim got the medicine. | ||
We're healing up. | ||
And it literally has an actual physical measurable effect, and it's called the placebo effect. | ||
Well, there's also something that they believe is more powerful than the placebo effect, and that's the nocebo effect. | ||
The nocebo effect is telling someone that they have a disease, telling someone that there's an incurable disease or that they're sick, And then they fucking panic. | ||
Here's a perfect example. | ||
In 2007, there was a guy that was a part of a trial that they were doing a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial on antidepressants. | ||
So they're trying to find the efficacy of antidepressants, and they give this guy... | ||
These pills, and he shows up at the hospital. | ||
He's got an empty bottle of pills, and he goes, help me, help me. | ||
I took all the pills. | ||
I took all the pills. | ||
And this guy collapses, all right? | ||
They bring him into the emergency room. | ||
His fucking blood pressure is dangerously low. | ||
His heart rate is jacked up. | ||
He's pale. | ||
He's sick. | ||
They're like, oh, no. | ||
And so they find the guy. | ||
The guy has a pill bottle they brought in with him. | ||
They find the guy's physician that's a part of the clinical trial. | ||
They bring the physician in. | ||
The physician tells him, you got the placebo. | ||
There's no medication here. | ||
These are bullshit pills. | ||
There's nothing in them. | ||
All of a sudden, the guy gets better. | ||
Like that. | ||
His heart rate balances. | ||
His blood pressure balances. | ||
15 minutes later, he's fine. | ||
The power of your mind. | ||
He was convinced that he was fucked. | ||
If you have someone in a hospital bed and you're telling them they're going to die... | ||
And you're not gonna see your family. | ||
And the amount of stress and the pain, your symptoms will crash. | ||
Everything will get more fucked up. | ||
Your body will go into a total state of shock. | ||
There's been people that have died because they were incorrectly diagnosed with cancer. | ||
And they went into this shock where they can't believe that they're not going to... | ||
And then their immune system crashes, their body crashes, and then they've done autopsies and they found out that it was benign. | ||
And this is what drives me nuts, where nobody questions. | ||
You just go, that's what they said. | ||
That's what they said, so that's what we're doing. | ||
That's what voodoo is. | ||
People think that voodoo is bullshit. | ||
What voodoo is, is you tell someone, if you're a charismatic person, you have white paint on your face and fucking feathers and skulls on sticks, and you tell them, I put a curse on you. | ||
And if you believe that shit, you'll be in a full terror. | ||
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Yes! | |
You'll be in a full terror, and then your life will fall apart. | ||
My hand to God, when I start my show, I say, and I've been saying, this is the greatest voodoo trick I've seen in humanity. | ||
In my entire life. | ||
Because that's what it is. | ||
It's the greatest voodoo trick in history. | ||
It's mind-boggling. | ||
Now I'm able to sit and watch it and dodge from it, but at the same time, I'm baffled how many people just... | ||
Don't question anything. | ||
It's mind-boggling. | ||
Now, back to what you say before. | ||
This is a cool thing. | ||
So I did a Metallica tour, right? | ||
Now, on this tour, I start to get to know people from around the world that go to every single Metallica show. | ||
That's so wild. | ||
It's so wild, and it's so cool. | ||
They call themselves the Metallica family, which I thought was amazing. | ||
Which I think is also amazing about you. | ||
You have followers around the world. | ||
I think that's amazing. | ||
It's mind-boggling. | ||
You could probably tour Korea in countries you never thought you can tour in because of who you are and who listens to you. | ||
So with this Metallica thing, there's this one couple, Sarah and Pete. | ||
And Pete, the story was so... | ||
It's amazing. | ||
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It's amazing. | |
Pete's a vet, got his ass kicked and rack and blah, blah, blah. | ||
He came back, got in a motorcycle accident, destroyed, doesn't want to live anymore. | ||
He's stuck to a hospital bed, blah, blah, blah. | ||
She's depressed because he doesn't want to live anymore. | ||
He hears Metallica's touring and he's got brain damaged. | ||
Irreversible brain damage. | ||
It's completely irreversible. | ||
And so he has to get checked every six weeks and they keep saying, yeah, no, nothing's going down. | ||
Okay, so forever this part of the brain is going to be dead. | ||
He knows Metallica's coming. | ||
And she said she came home, and for the first time, he was trying to get up. | ||
And she said, what do you want? | ||
She's like, I want to see Metallica. | ||
And she said, okay, well, I'll bring you to Metallica. | ||
She goes to Metallica, brings him in the wheelchair, he's got all his stuff, and then she sees while she's waiting on tickets, all these other Metallica fans, and, you know, they start like, oh, man, dude, you know, they're taking care, and they become like a little, hey, next, then they, you know, and she saw how happy he was. | ||
And how much life was brought to him just from seeing Metallica. | ||
Now with that, now she goes, maybe I should follow them. | ||
So she goes and buys come more tickets and he's got life. | ||
Now they follow them every time they tour. | ||
And I saw them, and then they come to see me. | ||
And when I first met him, he was very subdued. | ||
He doesn't smile a whole lot. | ||
He's like, you know, hi, hi. | ||
She's got this big smile. | ||
She's always bringing sunshine, great energy. | ||
By the end of the tour, as soon as the tour ended, I wish I had my email. | ||
I'm sure I could find the email. | ||
She goes, oh my god, Jim, you're not going to believe what's going on. | ||
I think we're going to the European tour. | ||
We're sorry, the US tour. | ||
We're not going to see you, but the European tour. | ||
I said, why? | ||
The doctors, for the first time ever, said his brain is starting to heal itself. | ||
And they truly believe it's from going to the Metallica concerts. | ||
Maybe it's not the music, it's the community, the life, the people around him that's inspiring him. | ||
And they want to hook him up and start doing this as a test. | ||
Like, perhaps this has the power of healing. | ||
Dude, how sick is that? | ||
That's pretty sick. | ||
You know how when a song comes on, you get goosebumps? | ||
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Yeah! | |
That's a drug. | ||
Of course it is! | ||
It really is. | ||
It's medicine. | ||
There's something to it. | ||
Like when a good song comes on, you're like, fuck yeah! | ||
There's songs in it. | ||
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God! God! God! God! God! God! God! God! | |
Look at that. | ||
Look at that. | ||
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Goosebumps. | |
Those are legit. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Music does something to you physically. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
And if this guy is all of a sudden around all these people, the music is doing something to him physically, and then he has a sense of community and all this fun and love and camaraderie, yeah, your fucking pistons start firing. | ||
Bang, bang, bang. | ||
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Woo! | |
How did you like talking to James? | ||
I loved it. | ||
He's cool. | ||
I loved it. | ||
He's a really cool guy. | ||
I mean, you think about a guy that has been through so much craziness. | ||
I think of fame as redlining. | ||
Like redlining your personality, redlining your stress levels, redlining your life. | ||
And so for a guy that's been like, damn! | ||
And then like, okay, I gotta get off this ride for a little bit. | ||
And then you talk to him and he's just aware that he redlined his life. | ||
And he apparently redlined his life again, right? | ||
Started indulging again after that and had to stop again. | ||
But to be a man that is that famous, that is that universally loved, to have that much pressure and attention and to live that crazy life, that arena rock life of a... | ||
You know, 1% rock star. | ||
Like, you get all the rock stars in the world. | ||
Metallica is like the 1% of the rock stars. | ||
Hands down. | ||
If they said they're touring Mars... | ||
They're going to Mars. | ||
We're going to Mars. | ||
Someone's going to Mars. | ||
Yeah, people are going to Mars. | ||
They could do a tour in the middle of the Sahara Desert, and people would make it out there with water. | ||
Without a doubt. | ||
100%. | ||
So, if I can ask you, out of everyone that you've talked with, who... | ||
Who would be your top? | ||
I don't. | ||
I don't have one. | ||
I really don't. | ||
I don't. | ||
I guess you wouldn't even want to answer that, only because other people instantly go... | ||
No, I mean, I would answer it. | ||
I would answer it. | ||
If people got upset, I would. | ||
I don't have a top. | ||
What would you learn from them? | ||
Did you learn anyone? | ||
Oh yeah, I learned from all of them, man. | ||
I mean, I learned from you. | ||
I learned from Neil deGrasse Tyson. | ||
I learned from Elon Musk. | ||
I learned from Lex Friedman. | ||
I learned from all these fucking scientists and people that I've had on. | ||
All these brilliant people. | ||
I learned from Matt Taibbi. | ||
I learned from... | ||
There's so many people that I've learned from. | ||
I've had a wild fucking education, man. | ||
I've had an 11-year education doing this podcast. | ||
11 years now? | ||
Yeah, it's 11 years. | ||
Holy crap. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's some monstrosity. | ||
Actually, yeah. | ||
It's almost 12. It'll be 12 years in December. | ||
I remember I only been in one UFC fight, and I don't think I need to see another. | ||
And what I mean by that is, you were like, Jim, you gotta sit. | ||
And I was leaving that night. | ||
I was in Vegas and I was leaving that night on a red eye. | ||
And I almost didn't get out. | ||
And you're like, Jim, you gotta come tonight. | ||
I just don't want you, dude. | ||
Bro, you don't want to miss this one. | ||
I'm like, alright, alright, I'll be there. | ||
And it was McGregor versus Spanish name dude. | ||
He wasn't supposed to be in a bill and then Nate Diaz? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Nate Diaz. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
And I still remember that. | ||
It's so vivid in my mind. | ||
There was an underscore, okay? | ||
There was an undercard. | ||
He looked like a guy like me against this toolbox. | ||
And every time the kick would hit him. | ||
I've seen on TV, but when you're there... | ||
Where you're standing, you hear, like, it sounds like a bat hitting a leg. | ||
And then after three kicks, I'm looking at his leg, and it looked like someone spray-painted a purple on the inside of his leg. | ||
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I went, oh my god, that's gotta be killing him. | |
How's this human being standing? | ||
Smack! | ||
And I don't even remember who won that. | ||
All I remember is the McGregor fight. | ||
And McGregor's in there. | ||
And he's definitely showboat, and I loved everything about it. | ||
And I'm sitting there in the front, and he comes in, and they start the first round, and I feel like Diaz had the best of him the first round. | ||
I don't remember a lot of it, but I remember the second round starting, and McGregor said something to him like, is that the best you got? | ||
Something like that. | ||
I'm like, did he just say that to this guy? | ||
He's trying to intimidate. | ||
But then I remember he was getting his ass kicked. | ||
Ass kicked. | ||
And he was on the ground. | ||
It was ugly. | ||
The guy's on the ground. | ||
And he's going for the final choke him out. | ||
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Right. | |
And his wife was right behind me. | ||
And it was like a movie. | ||
I kept looking. | ||
I'm like, Greg, get out of here. | ||
I'm looking. | ||
This is supposed to be a horror show. | ||
Oh my God! | ||
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I'm back here! | |
Come on! | ||
She covered her eyes and went, oh my God, this is a horror show to watch your husband getting choked out and beaten his blade. | ||
And all of a sudden, he gets out of it and he makes it to his feet. | ||
And I think Three Quarters Arena was from Ireland. | ||
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They're like... | |
They were going apeshit! | ||
And I remember, the hair on my back is standing watching this, and I remember Diaz's eyes. | ||
I'll never forget his eyes. | ||
He just, if his eyes could talk, they went, they said, oh no. | ||
I'm done. | ||
Diaz? | ||
I think you got the wrong fight. | ||
You got this fight so fucked up. | ||
When Nate Diaz got on top of Conor McGregor, he fucking strangled him and Conor tapped out. | ||
Nope. | ||
Then it wasn't that fight. | ||
Okay, it's a different fight. | ||
It was a good five, six years ago. | ||
Four years ago? | ||
Yeah, it was Nate Diaz. | ||
He's at the Chad Mendes fight. | ||
Mendes! | ||
Oh, Chad Mendes. | ||
Mendes! | ||
That's different. | ||
Okay, that makes sense. | ||
It was Mendes! | ||
Yes. | ||
So, Mendes' eyes... | ||
I saw his eyes. | ||
That's a different fight. | ||
He went full-blown, oh God, I'm done. | ||
I'm done. | ||
Because McGregor, from the crowd and standing up, it was, oh no. | ||
And five seconds later, he knocked him out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen live. | ||
That was a fight that Chad Mendes and his defense took late notice, and he wasn't even training. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
He wasn't ready for it. | ||
He gassed out a little bit. | ||
Yeah, and he got knocked out. | ||
But... | ||
That was my only UFC fight I ever got. | ||
That was a wild one to go to, man. | ||
That was a wild one. | ||
So now I'm trying to get out, and these hooligans, they're on top of the casino. | ||
They're dancing on top of the casino. | ||
There it is. | ||
That's your video? | ||
This is Jim's video? | ||
Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
Look at you. | ||
Dude, I can't even find this video anymore. | ||
I think I accidentally... | ||
Jamie finds everything. | ||
Bro, you gotta send this to me. | ||
Look at that. | ||
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This... | |
Now. | ||
Now I gotta catch a flight. | ||
And I can't... | ||
These Irish... | ||
How are you gonna get out of there? | ||
They were everywhere! | ||
I couldn't get past them! | ||
Look at you. | ||
I was in full-blown panic. | ||
Bro, that was one of the greatest... | ||
What were you in town doing? | ||
Do you remember? | ||
I was doing a show. | ||
Which gig are you doing? | ||
The Mirage? | ||
No! | ||
I'm South Point Casino. | ||
I play the locals. | ||
I can't get in that Mirage, man. | ||
You can't get in the Mirage? | ||
I'm not a Mirage guy. | ||
I don't have that kind of swagger. | ||
I'll be the first to admit it. | ||
You know, I'd love to say, well, I tell you, season's wanting me, but I can't have it. | ||
In Mirage, I said, let me check my book. | ||
I go to South Point Casino. | ||
How is that place? | ||
Is it good? | ||
I love it. | ||
The guy that runs the place is really cool. | ||
Mike, I love playing there. | ||
Vegas is a fun place to play. | ||
It's weird now. | ||
Have you been there recently? | ||
No, but I don't gamble. | ||
It's starting to come back. | ||
I don't gamble either. | ||
I don't gamble either. | ||
It's starting to come back though. | ||
It's like there's people out again. | ||
I was just there for the fights last weekend. | ||
Last weekend? | ||
Weekend before? | ||
Whatever it was. | ||
And it was hopping again. | ||
There was a large amount of people driving around and it seemed very different because it's been really desolate over the last year. | ||
So the fights, no one's in the arena? | ||
No one. | ||
They do it at the Apex Center. | ||
The UFC has their own Performance Institute and across the street from the Performance Institute, they have this thing called the Apex Center. | ||
So it's a training facility on one side of it, but then inside is a small arena. | ||
It's like a smaller cage, smaller octagon, and it could seat, if they're allowed to have a crowd, it could seat 1,000, 1,500 people maybe at the most. | ||
Maybe not even 1,500. | ||
But they do the shows there with no crowd. | ||
It's wild. | ||
The show... | ||
You should see that. | ||
I'd love to. | ||
Yeah, I'd love to take you to one of those because they're not going to be around that much longer because... | ||
I'll fly in for that. | ||
They're starting to do... | ||
There's one next weekend. | ||
They're starting to do fights with crowds again. | ||
I'm in Colorado. | ||
In April 20-something or another? | ||
What is it? | ||
What's the one that... | ||
That's a weekend, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, April 27th, they're doing the welterweight title. | ||
They're going to do that one in Tampa? | ||
Is that what it is? | ||
Jacksonville. | ||
In Jacksonville. | ||
In Jacksonville with a crowd. | ||
15,000 people. | ||
Which is like, holy shit, you're going full 24th. | ||
God, I love Florida. | ||
I was in Florida. | ||
Florida doesn't give a fuck. | ||
I don't want to leave. | ||
That was... | ||
I felt like... | ||
You talk about refugees? | ||
Yeah. | ||
They're coming from every angle, parachuting in. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
We made it! | ||
Well, maybe it'll be good, because they'll inject some New York into Florida. | ||
You know, more New York, like young New York, and give it some life. | ||
Because there's a little... | ||
It's a little death. | ||
It's a little stupid. | ||
Florida's got a little too much stupid. | ||
Unfortunately. | ||
It's a lot of sun. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No disrespect. | ||
A lot of elderly. | ||
There's a lot of, like, children of criminals. | ||
I lived there. | ||
Yeah, I know you did. | ||
You started there, right? | ||
You started stand-up there. | ||
Technically, yes. | ||
When I put my head down and put the ball in my hand, yeah. | ||
I started in 1989 at Ron Bennington's comedy scene. | ||
Baconuts Comedy Club. | ||
Ron Bennington, the same Ron Bennington that's on the radio? | ||
Yes. | ||
No shit. | ||
I didn't know he had a club. | ||
He was huge radio. | ||
Monster radio. | ||
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Yeah. | |
98. | ||
Ryan Fez. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So he had a Ramada and Comedy Club. | ||
It was awesome. | ||
I would see Brian Regan would come through there. | ||
Dan Whitney, before he was Larry the Cable Guy, would come through there. | ||
Tom Rhodes would come through there. | ||
So that is where Darryl Hammond, Bill Gardell, all those guys, that's kind of that area. | ||
That's the hub. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
And then I don't know what happened to it. | ||
But Long Island, I started... | ||
In and out, high school, but I wasn't consistent. | ||
I remember the first time I did, I played Governors, my first gig, and I thought I was so good. | ||
I was cocky. | ||
I was so cocky. | ||
Already thinking about the lion. | ||
The lion. | ||
Tiger. | ||
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Tiger. | |
Already thinking about the silk pants. | ||
Oh, God, yes. | ||
Oh, without a doubt. | ||
White tiger. | ||
White tiger. | ||
Like Mike Tyson. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I got mad at Mike when I saw it. | ||
I went, hey man, that's my gig. | ||
I want Eddie Murphy, red leather pants, and that white tiger. | ||
And that's success right there. | ||
And I remember doing a pigeon bit, which I thought I was brilliant for coming up with. | ||
I had this bug routine, which I thought I was brilliant. | ||
And then I saw all these other people. | ||
All these people steal from me. | ||
It was, and I was just like, oh. | ||
Well, you have generic premises. | ||
That's the thing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, premises that you think. | ||
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Yeah, you think you're like, hey, I came up with that. | |
There was one joke that everybody had in Boston. | ||
In New Hampshire, they had a license plate. | ||
The logo on the license plate, their saying was, live free or die. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And I'm like, those things are made by prisoners. | ||
It's the most fucked up thing, because license plates were always made by prisoners. | ||
That was like the inside out. | ||
Wow! | ||
Every comic had that. | ||
I thought I was so brilliant for thinking that up. | ||
And some guys had to tell me, you know, a couple other guys got that joke, too. | ||
Yeah, well, they got it from me. | ||
Clearly. | ||
They heard me talking about it at a fucking Nick's Pizza place. | ||
But being a guy that's making, it just seems so ironic to me, to be making license plates that say live free or die while you're trapped in a cage. | ||
Or die. | ||
Wow, that's insane. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Those days, man, those early days when I see kids today, like if I'll go to Kill Tony and I'll watch the open mic guys go up and try it for the third or fourth. | ||
You know what Kill Tony is? | ||
No. | ||
Tony Hinchcliffe and Brian Redband have this really funny show where they take a professional comic. | ||
I've been a guest on it a couple of times out here. | ||
And they'll have a professional comic will sit there. | ||
And then they have a band behind them that's actually Gary Clark Jr.'s band that he works with that's at Antone's nightclub here in Austin. | ||
And then comics will go up that are local or they'll come to try to put their name in a hat. | ||
They'll pull the name out of the hat and then they bring them up on stage and they do one minute of comedy. | ||
Wow. | ||
And sometimes it's great, and sometimes it's terrible. | ||
When it's terrible, everybody makes fun of them, and when it's great, everybody makes fun of them and appraises them and says, good luck. | ||
It's a great jumping-off point for young, up-and-coming comics. | ||
That's a cool idea. | ||
It's a great idea. | ||
It's a great show. | ||
But it's also to be there and see these people at the beginning where they're trying to figure it out. | ||
They're over trying. | ||
They don't know what they're doing. | ||
I know. | ||
It's cute. | ||
Where's the cool areas? | ||
I don't even know where the hell I'm playing. | ||
Is it outdoors? | ||
I don't know. | ||
What place is your place? | ||
What's it called? | ||
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You don't know where you're going? | |
Why don't you look at your phone? | ||
Find out where you're at. | ||
Jimmy will find out. | ||
It's a weird name. | ||
It's not Stubbs Amphitheater, right? | ||
It's an amphitheater. | ||
Oh, he's at Nutty Brown. | ||
Oh, Nutty Brown's awesome. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Isn't that the place where Burr was? | ||
I think so, yeah. | ||
Yeah, dude, you're going to love it. | ||
It's great. | ||
Nutty Brown's great. | ||
It's a beautiful amphitheater. | ||
So it's outdoors. | ||
Burr was there, yeah, but it's warm out. | ||
Burr packed that sucker. | ||
Yeah, it was awesome. | ||
It was really fun. | ||
That was one of the first shows that I got to see. | ||
So where do you play? | ||
Like live. | ||
Don't you play out here? | ||
Yeah. | ||
We've been doing Stubbs. | ||
Stubbs Amphitheater. | ||
We COVID test the whole crowd. | ||
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Really? | |
Yep. | ||
We get there. | ||
The show starts at 7.30. | ||
People get there at like 6.30. | ||
There's a giant... | ||
They got it down to a science. | ||
They test everybody. | ||
You go in there. | ||
You're supposed to wear masks, but a lot of people don't. | ||
And then you're in the crowd and everyone's distanced, but it's a, you know, like 400 seat crowd. | ||
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Wow! | |
Yeah, and it's great. | ||
And that's the ones you and Dave have been doing? | ||
Yeah, me and Dave and Donald Rollins, and the other night we did it with Ron White, Michelle Wolfe's done a bunch, Mo Amher's done a bunch of them with us, and we've been having so much fun. | ||
And then we've also been doing Vulcan Gas Company sometimes. | ||
It's like a local place, and they'll have local shows. | ||
They have a show there tonight, and fuck around there just to keep the chops loose. | ||
And eventually I'm opening up a club here. | ||
Are you? | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Oh, yeah, I got the ball rolling. | ||
Oh, God. | ||
I'll let you know what happens. | ||
Let me know. | ||
I'd love to play there. | ||
Oh, fuck, 100%. | ||
Yeah, I would love to have you. | ||
As soon as everything's up and running, I will send out the bat signal, and I'm going to... | ||
You're going to have an overload. | ||
I'm trying to have an overload. | ||
No, it's going to be an overload. | ||
Well, I want to have an overload. | ||
There's going to be more clubs that are opening up here, too. | ||
They're reopening up Cap City, but it's under the Helium banner. | ||
The guy from Helium. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
He's hitting Austin. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
Did I... Mark Grossman? | ||
Yeah. | ||
They're doing it at The Domain, which is this really nice shopping area of Austin. | ||
It's a great place. | ||
Smart. | ||
Very smart. | ||
Very smart place to put it because there's a ton of bars and restaurants there. | ||
And apparently he's going to really do it up nice and have two rooms in that building, too. | ||
So they'll have a small room and a larger room. | ||
I feel like I was in Austin. | ||
Is there an improv here? | ||
No, there's no improv. | ||
There's no real comedy club here right now. | ||
Because Cap City went under. | ||
Because when Cap City went under because of COVID... Oh, I'm so stupid. | ||
I was by Dallas. | ||
There's a Dallas improv. | ||
There's a Houston improv. | ||
That's what I was at. | ||
I did Houston improv in July. | ||
It was fucking great. | ||
But I smoked too much weed and I got really paranoid. | ||
I came back and I was like, oh my god, I want to infect a guest. | ||
I can't do this. | ||
I can't be going... | ||
And I was getting tested and I was clean. | ||
But I was still like, fuck, what if I infect somebody? | ||
You know what? | ||
I think I got mine from... | ||
I went to Dallas, whatever that improv is, and the very last night... | ||
I could have been anywhere, but I would eat by myself. | ||
I'm totally solo. | ||
I don't know who's opening tonight. | ||
I don't know what's going on. | ||
And after the last show... | ||
I went in the green room, and I was getting ready to go out, and I heard this guy. | ||
He's like, you don't understand tonight, man. | ||
Jim Brewer, blah, blah, blah. | ||
You know when you hear that. | ||
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And he goes, man, that meant so much. | |
And I creaked open the door. | ||
I'm like, hey, man. | ||
You want to come back and take a picture? | ||
He's like, oh, my God. | ||
I said, bring your wife. | ||
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Bring your wife. | |
He comes in. | ||
He got you sick. | ||
I don't know. | ||
That guy got you sick. | ||
I think he got me sick because... | ||
That fucking whining, coughing fuck. | ||
He had a couple cocktails in him and I could feel his breath going on me. | ||
And that's the first time I was like, oh no, but... | ||
COVID breath. | ||
But, I don't know, but that's... | ||
It was about three, four days later when it started. | ||
I went, oh. | ||
But, who the heck knows? | ||
I was reading an article about COVID toes. | ||
I'm fine. | ||
People get COVID toes. | ||
What's COVID toes? | ||
Exactly. | ||
It turns out it's not real. | ||
And then in the article, one of the things they said, also, people who don't have COVID get the same thing from walking around the house barefoot. | ||
I'm like, okay, we're done. | ||
What? | ||
I don't even know what just happened. | ||
You called it COVID toes, and then you went into depth about these things showing pictures of people's fucked up, swollen toes. | ||
And then at the end of the article, it says apparently people can also get this from just being barefoot. | ||
So it's a barefoot thing. | ||
Yeah, that's all it is. | ||
It's a walking around barefoot, banging your toes on things, you stub your toes. | ||
I just banged the shit out of my toe. | ||
I just saw his black toe and I don't know where I got it from. | ||
You know what the real problem with media is? | ||
The real problem with news media is that it's profitable. | ||
That's the problem. | ||
The problem is it's profitable, so there's a bunch of clickbait titles, and it's also very influential, right? | ||
And because they know it's influential, they can lean the news one way or the other. | ||
If someone could come along and have a fact-based, completely objective, research-driven, completely non-biased news program, it would be so valuable to people. | ||
Can it exist? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know either. | ||
That's what they were trying to do. | ||
That's what they used to teach you in journalism. | ||
But now, young journalists, if you pay attention to some of the stories that come out of the New York Times, or even some of the most respected newspapers in the country, they're activists. | ||
They're all activists. | ||
But this is a problem, because they'll omit information that's contrary to what they're trying to promote, and they're not always right. | ||
My daughter came back from college. | ||
Uh-oh. | ||
Not even. | ||
So this was, let's see, she left in August, came back October. | ||
End of August, October. | ||
It looked like she went to a seminar. | ||
You weren't allowed to leave. | ||
Her eyes were glazed over. | ||
She was like, sexist, racist, gender, gender, gender, racist. | ||
Can't say that. | ||
Can't say that. | ||
LGBTQ2. Human rights. | ||
LGBTQ2. Gender. | ||
Gender. | ||
I said, good morning. | ||
And this fucker was off on a tangent. | ||
And I realized I'm paying $20,000, $30,000. | ||
For my kid to get indoctrinated and brainwashed, she tried to explain to me how the Indians had different genders. | ||
And I went, who? | ||
Native Americans? | ||
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Yeah. | |
I went, who? | ||
Who tried telling? | ||
They got pictures on walls now where the Indians are drawing, where they're cutting off a penis and injecting hormones? | ||
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I don't understand. | |
I don't understand. | ||
What does that mean? | ||
But they did. | ||
What do you mean they did? | ||
That was part of Native American culture. | ||
They cut their penis? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
They didn't have operations. | ||
But there were some Native American tribe members in various tribes that were thought to be... | ||
They considered them of a different sex or a different gender. | ||
Like they had men and female, and then they had males that identified as females or behaved as females. | ||
And they had females that identified as males and behaved as males. | ||
Listen, this has always been a thing with human beings. | ||
I get that. | ||
It was taboo and hidden for the most part. | ||
Well, I can get it as far as if we're in a tribe, right? | ||
Now, I know you're an alpha male. | ||
We're alpha males. | ||
You're more alpha male than me. | ||
So we're going to go to battle. | ||
I'm probably going to get you. | ||
You're going to have to be the battler. | ||
But I'm going to... | ||
I clearly know my role is to keep the... | ||
I have a different role. | ||
Right. | ||
Whatever that role is. | ||
All right? | ||
Some people's role is like, hey, listen, I got to stay here. | ||
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I got to... | |
Is that what you're talking about? | ||
Are you talking full-blown? | ||
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No, no. | |
There was men that identified as women. | ||
Like, it's been throughout history. | ||
There's been males that felt like they should have been females. | ||
They don't understand what makes a person want to be a man and what makes a person want to be a woman. | ||
Some women wish they were men. | ||
They feel like they should have been a man. | ||
There's always been that. | ||
It's not fake, right? | ||
There really are people that have these thoughts. | ||
The problem is it becomes a protected subject, and then you get praised for transferring your gender, for changing your gender. | ||
Correct. | ||
And then it gets exciting for people to talk about, and then you get chastised for even discussing it in any weird way. | ||
And then people who were marginalized for being, like, genuinely... | ||
Dumb people, if they transfer over and become another gender, then they get praised. | ||
Like, there's been a lot of people that were like, idiots. | ||
But then they become trans, and now all of a sudden we think they're amazing. | ||
Correct. | ||
So I'll give an example. | ||
I was talking to a... | ||
A person that's a therapist. | ||
I don't go to a therapist. | ||
Not that that's good or bad. | ||
This person was a therapist. | ||
This therapist was telling me that their child Was transgender. | ||
And they were worried about their son, now daughter, going into high school. | ||
And I said, I don't understand. | ||
Is it a sexual? | ||
Can you explain to me? | ||
Because whenever I bring it up to my daughter, and the problem with it is, no one knows how to talk. | ||
It turns into a fight. | ||
In a debate. | ||
I would ask my daughter, what does that mean? | ||
You identify a transvestite. | ||
Oh my god, you know what? | ||
I'm not talking. | ||
I'm not even fucking talking about it! | ||
I'm just asking you a question. | ||
They don't even know how to talk. | ||
Because they're indoctrinated into an ideology that demands that you comply. | ||
Correct. | ||
When I'm like, let's just have a conversation. | ||
There's a transvestite that comes into our coffee shop. | ||
I don't think you're allowed to say transvestite anymore. | ||
I just did. | ||
I think it's a bad word now. | ||
I'm generation. | ||
I'm in the 80s. | ||
We call it transvestite. | ||
You can't deprogram me. | ||
Can you say drag queen? | ||
Drag queen. | ||
Can you say it? | ||
I just said it. | ||
I said it too. | ||
It's a drag queen. | ||
What I'm saying is that like someone, are you allowed to say it? | ||
Too bad! | ||
Like, Miley Cyrus is really into drag queens. | ||
Like, she thinks it's hilarious. | ||
She loves them. | ||
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Right! | |
She loves, like, drag... | ||
What's that show? | ||
Dragstrip? | ||
What's it called? | ||
Oh, God, my daughter watches it. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
They dress up like drag queens. | ||
She loves it. | ||
So, the person goes... | ||
The person goes, and I'm all for it, man. | ||
That's a lot of work. | ||
It's a lot of work. | ||
Yeah, you're putting in the work. | ||
That's a lot of work. | ||
It's Halloween every day. | ||
You're sucking this in. | ||
Yeah, it's a lot. | ||
Halloween every day. | ||
Wearing your big man feet and tight women. | ||
Dude, that's a lot of work. | ||
It's a lot of work. | ||
I totally respect. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So with that said, I go, well, what? | ||
Explain to me what we started helping him with his hormones and Now, I'll just say this. | ||
I learned a lot about cancer, because my wife's been dealing it since 2012. And not a fact, just an opinion. | ||
Your hormones are changed the minute you start taking the pill. | ||
Birth control pill. | ||
Yes. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
100%. | ||
And if you look at when... | ||
Breast cancer started just rising. | ||
It's just a bizarre coincidence. | ||
The more pills we take. | ||
It's a kazillion dollar industry. | ||
A lot of things. | ||
Could be a billion things. | ||
Doesn't matter. | ||
But I've had specialists explain to me... | ||
Hormones... | ||
Once you start messing with hormones, it's like it wakes cancer up and it waits and hangs out in your body. | ||
And then why women often get it at a certain age is because your hormones start changing again. | ||
And just like Pac-Man, it comes alive. | ||
Like, ah, remember when you made me alive and born? | ||
Well, now I'm back because you fucked with the hormones. | ||
So when I asked this person, of course I didn't bring any of this up. | ||
I just couldn't believe that I could tell you. | ||
So I said, what exactly made your son want to gender? | ||
Is it a sexual thing? | ||
Did he see pornography? | ||
Because that's another thing people don't want to admit. | ||
When you see porn as a kid, I was traumatized. | ||
The first time I saw porn, you know, I'm playing Godzilla and Pac-Man, and the next thing, you know, it's like, oh my god, what? | ||
I never looked at anything. | ||
I'm banging pillows now. | ||
A savage comes out of you. | ||
I never even thought of sticking my... | ||
It alters your mind and everything. | ||
And it's extremely addicting. | ||
So with that, I'm asking them, like, she said, no, he didn't like his penis. | ||
He just never liked his penis. | ||
It was ugly. | ||
And I wanted to say, did you ever talk to him? | ||
And say, well, just like the ugly duckling, the ugly duckling was very ugly and didn't like his penis and didn't really understand why his penis existed because he's five years old. | ||
And then by the time he's seven, eight years old, you start explaining that, hey, the penis is going to maybe, you know, hey, there's some good things. | ||
There's going to be times you're going to have to piss really bad and you're going to enjoy that penis and you go out in the bushes and you pee while... | ||
This is the weirdest ugly duckling story ever. | ||
Imagine if your dad is telling you the ugly duckling story about dicks and you're like, what are you trying to say, dad? | ||
Your dad's Jim Brewer. | ||
Just say it, dad! | ||
But the point is, I'm sure they had conversations, but her... | ||
Her conversation ended by just saying, no, he just never liked his penis. | ||
He never liked his penis. | ||
He never liked his penis. | ||
And I'm not to judge, but I just find it extremely dangerous unless your child is in a situation where they may die. | ||
Well, there's no situation where you may die if you don't change your gender, unless you're talking about suicide. | ||
No, I'm saying to change your body's chemistry. | ||
Because another thing is, I've dealt with teenagers that are addicts, and they'll clearly tell you the reason why drugs and alcohol are so bad at you at the age of 13, 14, 15, because your brain is not developed. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And it will affect your brain. | ||
So if your brain... | ||
And they say you really can't make 100% conscious decisions until you're between whatever. | ||
They think it's 25. Let's say it's 21. Yeah. | ||
But why is that... | ||
So I just question... | ||
Not anyone out there. | ||
Right, why can you change your gender when you're still developing? | ||
Why would you do it as a child? | ||
There's no good answer. | ||
There is no good answer. | ||
I just beg people to think about it. | ||
But it's one of those things where if you bring it up... | ||
For the health. | ||
There's the ideology. | ||
One ideology is that this person has always been a girl and that they know by the time they're two and you should get them on hormone blockers as quickly as you can so you can change their gender as quickly as you can. | ||
And then there's another ideology that says, hey, wait a minute, you are doing something that, first of all, is very recent in terms of medical science. | ||
They haven't been around that long in terms of these gender or these hormone blockers. | ||
And you're allowing children to make decisions at a very young age that will affect them literally for the rest of their life. | ||
It's not like it's a 100% success rate. | ||
There's a lot of kids who go through gender reassignment surgery that are very regretful. | ||
There's websites dedicated to it. | ||
You can read all these personal accounts. | ||
If there was a thing that always worked, like every time you did it, and like, oh, they feel so much better. | ||
I'm not making a comparison in terms of the same thing, but here's a good example. | ||
If someone wanted a nose job, like maybe someone has a really fucked up nose, a deformed hump on their nose, and you take that thing down, and then they look much better, and they're much happier. | ||
And most... | ||
Good nose jobs, I bet, do have a positive success rate in terms of positive feeling after it's done. | ||
Sure. | ||
I'm so happy I got that crazy fucking hook fixed on the top of my nose. | ||
Yeah. | ||
This is not that. | ||
This is something way more complex. | ||
And... | ||
It's also, there's been studies that show that for some of these people that don't transition, that wanted to transition when they were young, they wind up just becoming gay as they get older. | ||
And there's nothing wrong with that either. | ||
Human beings, if they want to do this as they're an adult, and they know for a fact they want to do it as an adult... | ||
Then they should be able to make their own choices. | ||
But when you're talking about really young children and then you have all this reinforcement from people and trans activists and people that literally encourage people to do this. | ||
You don't know. | ||
You can't quantify what's going on inside of a person's mind. | ||
The problem is, I think, for some people, it is the right choice. | ||
For some people, if you got them on hormone blockers and then they transitioned to be a woman, they might ultimately be happier. | ||
That's real possible. | ||
But they might not, too. | ||
And so when you're in this situation where you're talking about a minor... | ||
And you use absolutes like this is where they want to be. | ||
This is their true gender. | ||
This is what they should do. | ||
And then you encourage them and you lead them along. | ||
You're in this weird place when you talk with young people. | ||
You can encourage young people to do a lot of things because they're very malleable. | ||
Young people are very easily influenced. | ||
And they're also, you know, there's a book written by this woman, Abigail Schreier, it's called Irreversible Damage. | ||
And it's about this. | ||
And it's about young girls in particular, that there's been an uptick of over, I think, I believe it's over 1000% of kids identifying, particularly girls, identifying as trans when they're in high school. | ||
It's called rapid onset gender dysphoria, where these girls, a lot of times socially awkward girls, a lot of times girls who may be on the spectrum, they may have issues, and they get together and decide in clusters that they're trans. | ||
And it's very strange. | ||
And statistically speaking, it doesn't necessarily make sense if you think about how many people out of a hundred would naturally be trans, or out of a thousand, or out of a million. | ||
It's much higher than that for these groups, and they feel like they're being influenced by social pressures, and they're making these decisions that they don't even have to have their parents involved. | ||
Like in some states, you can actively begin taking testosterone, and you can even get gender reassignment surgery on your own without your parents giving permission when you're 15, which is crazy. | ||
And, you know, when you're 15, you're not even supposed to be admitted to a hospital with an injury without parental consent. | ||
But yet they're allowing these people to have gender reassignment surgery without, you know, Without consulting other people in their family, without consulting their parental guides. | ||
You can't drink, you can't drive, you can't do anything. | ||
But you can go and have gender reassignment surgery. | ||
And a lot of people have issue with that. | ||
It's a super, super touchy subject. | ||
But why is it touchy? | ||
Well, this is probably the problem because they don't want anyone saying anything that's contrary to the narrative that they're trying to push out, which is that it should be encouraged for anybody who wants it. | ||
They should get them on hormone blockers. | ||
There was another thing they were trying to say for a while, but they finally had to admit. | ||
They were trying to say that if you get someone on hormone blockers when they're young and they change their mind and decide to be the sex that they were born with, that there'll be no damage. | ||
Now they're saying, no, that's not true. | ||
Now they're saying, you will definitely change the way that person develops and grows, and they will have damage. | ||
So, like, this is obvious to anybody that knows anything about the human body and about hormones. | ||
But they were trying to pretend that it wouldn't have any effect on them. | ||
This is why I always... | ||
Where does this start? | ||
Does it start with a mad scientist? | ||
No, it starts in universities. | ||
There's a lot of it. | ||
A lot of it starts with people that don't live in the real world and they live in these super insulated liberal environments like universities. | ||
Who funds universities? | ||
Well, people who pay to have their kids go there or people that are kids that get student loans. | ||
I mean, if no one's paying, the university goes under. | ||
But they are subsidized by the government, so it's one of the reasons why student loans are so expensive. | ||
Okay, so if you're subsidized by the government, Wouldn't it eventually come from somewhere in there? | ||
Yeah, it's not a plan. | ||
Like, who creates education? | ||
It's not a plot. | ||
I know what you're saying. | ||
No, no, no, but who creates... | ||
It's a symptom of the fact that these people don't compete in the real world. | ||
They don't exist in the real world. | ||
They teach in universities, they get tenure, and there's an overwhelming liberal bias in education. | ||
Like, overwhelming. | ||
Why do you think that is? | ||
It's a lot. | ||
I think in terms of education, the type of people that wind up doing that are the type of people that go to school, they get indoctrinated into that environment, and then they wind up teaching. | ||
So they don't really leave. | ||
They stay in this mindset, and it's very much like any other... | ||
Ideological mindset, whether it's a religion or a cult or liberal thinking that mirrors religion in a lot of ways because there's no compromise. | ||
You're compelled to think a certain way and you're criticized and ostracized if you don't comply. | ||
It's mandatory compliance. | ||
To think along certain lines. | ||
And they also make you think along lines where you know that it's not logical. | ||
You know it's not correct. | ||
Like a big one is transgender athletes. | ||
They try to say, like, do you know this? | ||
In high school in Connecticut, 15 state championship titles, 15 records are being held by two biological males in Connecticut. | ||
Yeah, it's bananas. | ||
Everybody knows it's bananas, but yet they're saying, like, Scientific America just had a story about it. | ||
Like, we must allow transgender athletes to compete in the sex that they identify with. | ||
Well, no, that's crazy. | ||
No, we must not allow that. | ||
Because we must protect biological women. | ||
There's a reason why biological males are not allowed to compete with biological women. | ||
It's because they have certain physical advantages. | ||
That's why we have boy sports and girl sports. | ||
Now, just because someone identifies as being trans, should we treat them like they're a woman or treat them like they're a boy? | ||
Yes, we should. | ||
But we should recognize that when we're talking about athletic competition, that we're dealing with a completely different thing. | ||
We're dealing with... | ||
Physical bodies competing against other physical bodies. | ||
And yes, there's a spectrum in physical bodies. | ||
And there's some women that are going to be superior athletically, and there's some women that just don't have good bodies for sports. | ||
The same thing with males. | ||
And the difference in the spectrum is, if you took a world-class sprinter, world-class sprinter as a woman, top of the food chain, Olympic gold medalist, There are high school athletes that will bury her as males. | ||
Male high school athletes. | ||
Built differently. | ||
You can take the best sprinter in the world and you'll find a hundred male high school, high school, 15-year-olds, who will leave her in the dust. | ||
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Because they're built differently. | ||
This is when I go into the system of everything. | ||
It's so bizarre to me. | ||
Like when I was in... | ||
I always question... | ||
You know, my kids come home from school. | ||
I go, why are you... | ||
Like, why are they learning what they're learning? | ||
90% of it, if you ask me, makes zero sense. | ||
Zero sense. | ||
So, if you're not... | ||
And here, I... I'm all over the place. | ||
Even when I was... | ||
Years ago, you know what? | ||
In my opinion... | ||
I... I believe you create something. | ||
If I create a drug or if I create a procedure, I need to sell it somehow to make money. | ||
So how do I get it out there? | ||
I got to come up with a disease or a... | ||
Everyone today has something like, oh, your child has XYZ. And a lot of people have ADHD. I say ADHD back in the day was called, I'm bored from the bullshit. | ||
Because many kids, you can take ADHD and they may not be good learners because what you're shoving down their throat is not only boring, but they know it has no substance or nothing that will prep them for anything that's real in human soul existence. | ||
There's a lot of debate about that stuff, too. | ||
It's not a debate. | ||
It's common sense. | ||
But there's a lot of debate about whether or not that's a real thing. | ||
So then, what do they do? | ||
They drug your child. | ||
And they purposely start with the, you know, your child would do so much better. | ||
It's a simple drug. | ||
So they started... | ||
Diseasing and drugging your children at a very young age, and every time they got a new drug and a new something, it seems that it's infiltrated, it's put out, it's sold, and you need to create something to sell it. | ||
And I just sit back, I watch, if I say something, I'm a conspiracy guy, but I do feel we're coming to a head either We need to start thinking and questioning everything, or we're heading in a wacky, wacky new world. | ||
We are in a wacky new world. | ||
This is the matrix. | ||
It is. | ||
Yeah, and we're actually moving into the matrix, which is even crazier because people are getting closer and closer to an electronic reality where you're completely connected all the time. | ||
If you were to take away all visual, All visual. | ||
All audio. | ||
I guarantee you 90% of what goes on today wouldn't exist. | ||
Wouldn't exist. | ||
You mean in terms of like a lot of the wacky social shit? | ||
All of it. | ||
Not necessarily. | ||
People wouldn't be running around. | ||
There was a lot of craziness in the universities in the 60s during the Vietnam War protest. | ||
Even before then. | ||
The humanity. | ||
You asked me something really interesting last time we were here. | ||
If you had to go back in time... | ||
Or if you had one question, and my question was, when did this all start? | ||
When was the first movement of, you need schools? | ||
What do you need a school for if we're living off the land and we just got to eat and take care of one another? | ||
What do you need a school for to make money? | ||
Well, money's fake. | ||
No, it's not necessarily just that. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
Because people have accumulated information. | ||
It's very difficult to find. | ||
You gotta get it all in one place. | ||
And the best way to have it taught is to have it taught by someone who's a professional intellectual. | ||
Like someone who's actually been studying all this stuff all day long. | ||
Most people, if you have a craft, like say if you're a blacksmith. | ||
If you're a blacksmith and you make horseshoes or knives or whatever the fuck you make, you don't have the time to acquire all of Galileo's theories and writings. | ||
Listen to what Newton had to say about gravity. | ||
You don't have time. | ||
You don't have time for any of that shit. | ||
Darwin's theory. | ||
You're not gonna study evolution. | ||
You don't have time. | ||
So you want to bring your children, you want to have people educated by someone who's a professional intellect. | ||
So someone who's been studying these thoughts and concepts and knows how to teach them. | ||
The problem is, then, they also have immense power over children. | ||
Right? | ||
Because the children listen to them, look up to them, and a lot of them have immense egos because of the fact they have this immense power. | ||
A lot of them also are in a position of power for the first time in their life. | ||
So much like a newly famous person that wants a white tiger, they become indoctrinated into this world of power And attention. | ||
And so then they demand compliance in this ideology they're teaching to children. | ||
And then those children eventually get jobs at the university and some of them become professors themselves. | ||
And so they continually perpetuate this world that they were indoctrinated into. | ||
And this world is extremely left-wing. | ||
And they feel like they should be able to do these things here. | ||
Do you remember there was a lady that got in trouble a few years back because she was on a university campus and this was when they first started doing safe spaces. | ||
They first started doing these safe spaces and this one kid who was an Asian kid was filming this safe space and this woman who was a professor was Was yelling at him to put the camera down. | ||
He's like, I'm reporting for the school. | ||
This is what I do. | ||
I'm a journalist under training. | ||
I'm training to be a journalist. | ||
She yells at him. | ||
She says, this is a safe space. | ||
There's no cameras. | ||
They're outside, too, by the way. | ||
And then she said, can I get some muscle over here to handle this? | ||
So she starts calling for reinforcement. | ||
Of her idea. | ||
She's telling this guy and then she's calling for people to come. | ||
She literally asked for muscle to come and help her physically intimidate this guy to stop him because she's saying a bunch of ridiculous shit and he's filming it. | ||
So he puts it online and she winds up having to apologize and everybody freaks out. | ||
But this is what people do when they can't get compliance. | ||
They want to bring in thugs. | ||
This is what's so dangerous because all of our – all this fucking crazy socialist, communist, Marxist shit that people are being taught universally, we know where this goes. | ||
If you study Stalin, this ultimately goes to someone enforcing these ideas, whether it's through Russia, the way the Russians did it or the way the Chinese did it. | ||
When they want compliance, there's only one way to stop the people that resist. | ||
You have to use force. | ||
Force. | ||
I'll tell you what. | ||
This woman immediately went to force. | ||
Can I get some muscle? | ||
This is the way the human mind works. | ||
Yeah. | ||
When you're trying to tell people what to do and they don't want to listen, and you have other people that are willing to, hey, hey, hey, will you take care of this? | ||
We'll take care of it. | ||
You have more important things to do, like safe spaces. | ||
We'll just beat the fuck out of this journalist student and let him know and teach him. | ||
We don't take care of... | ||
Our journalists don't... | ||
They're not allowed to film the things that are uncomfortable. | ||
It's insanity. | ||
Yeah, it's insanity. | ||
I have a guy, one of my... | ||
I don't want to say what he does. | ||
I have an acquaintance from Korea, an acquaintance from Portugal, and Romania. | ||
And all three have said the same thing in pure terror. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They all have said, you, meaning America, have no clue what's going on right now. | ||
You are worse than just sitting ducks because you're so compliant and you don't even know it's happening. | ||
This has been in the works for 20 to 30 years. | ||
They started with education. | ||
They got the media. | ||
They got the judges. | ||
They got the lawmakers. | ||
You guys are doomed. | ||
I don't think it's a conspiracy. | ||
I know it sounds ridiculous, but I don't think that it's happening because of a conspiracy. | ||
I think this happens at the end of every civilization's reign. | ||
And I think this happened with the Greeks and it happened with the Romans. | ||
It's one of the things that Douglas Murray, when I had him on my podcast, was discussing. | ||
He said one of the things that happens at the end of civilizations is they become obsessed with gender. | ||
men start becoming women, women start becoming men, and it becomes like a big focus, like cross-dressing and all this stuff becomes a big point of focus. | ||
And I was like, well, why is that? | ||
He goes, it seems to be that they're dissolving all boundaries and all norms and all societal structure. | ||
And that's a part of it. | ||
It's like gender roles. | ||
When you say, this is what I learned about television, too. | ||
I would like anyone to just—I always say, look at all the TV shows, and you tell me, out of all the shows that are out there, all the channels, who's the strong, smart male? | ||
There's not a lot of that. | ||
Why do you think that is? | ||
Who programs the programs? | ||
Who puts on programming? | ||
Who runs big networks? | ||
And who's putting on show after show after show with a specific line of entertainment that is constantly pumped into the system? | ||
Yeah, but it's because they're trying to be successful, okay? | ||
They're trying to tell stories. | ||
And the best way to get something on the air... | ||
If you're going to do a comedy in particular, is to have the bumbling male, like the Al Bundy, like he's falling apart, and then you have... | ||
Sure. | ||
Those themes exist over and over and over again. | ||
But then some people tell me this, I'll go, well, I'll say, if you think news is really good, if they really cared about humanity, they would say, hey, man... | ||
Start loving people. | ||
Start taking care of your body. | ||
It's all just hate division. | ||
But here the answer is always, well, it's because of the entertainment. | ||
But they don't allow any other view. | ||
So therefore, it's almost like you're programmed. | ||
Yeah, this is what you got. | ||
You don't even... | ||
The other side's never even had a chance. | ||
Well, if you're in the bubble of Hollywood, right? | ||
See, this is the thing. | ||
It's like thought contagions. | ||
If you're in the left-wing Hollywood bubble, everyone... | ||
Have you ever been on a conference call with a bunch of Hollywood people and they'll say wacky shit? | ||
I mean, I've heard people say, especially people that are... | ||
Let's put it this way. | ||
Pro-Israel. | ||
They will say a lot of crazy shit about Arabs or about Palestinians, and you'll go like, whoa. | ||
Like, imagine if someone was recording this. | ||
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Right. | |
Like, you're assuming everyone's on the same page. | ||
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Right. | |
This is years ago and generally in response to something in the news. | ||
But there's an ideology that everyone subscribes to. | ||
And that ideology is extremely left-wing. | ||
It's extremely left-wing and it's all negative. | ||
You could not be in a meeting seven, eight months ago and have pro-Trump rhetoric in a Hollywood meeting to pitch a show. | ||
They didn't care how good your show was. | ||
You're done. | ||
You're done. | ||
Get out of here. | ||
You could be the nicest guy in the world, but if you have some sort of a message about Trump, well, here's the thing people don't know about Trump. | ||
Unemployment among black families is lower than it's ever been before. | ||
Having jobs are higher. | ||
There's less crime. | ||
The economy is better. | ||
And as the economy does better, all the communities do better. | ||
If you started saying things like that, they would kick you out of the office. | ||
They don't give a fuck about that. | ||
The ideology is very left-wing. | ||
And so they feed off of this, and then they are producing the new shows. | ||
So if they're producing the new shows, they think they're doing the right thing. | ||
Like, they all do. | ||
Like, I used to... | ||
People used to say, oh, TV shows... | ||
They're programming these TV shows because they're trying to warp your mind. | ||
Listen to me. | ||
The people who are making those TV shows are just as influenced by the shit they're doing. | ||
They believe all that shit. | ||
They're stuck in it. | ||
They're not like masterminds. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
I am the puppet master. | ||
I'm manipulating the people. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
They are just as balls deep in that fucking loony world as the people that they're selling it to. | ||
You're right, you're right, you're right. | ||
So what else you got then? | ||
You got Fox News. | ||
You got wacky shit like Newsmax or OAN, One American Network. | ||
You're like, ugh. | ||
I don't watch anything. | ||
You know, you don't have a Rand Paul network, right? | ||
You don't have a guy who's like a reasonable- You show me that guy. | ||
Yes. | ||
Very reasonable Republican. | ||
Yes. | ||
And he has some really good points. | ||
He's talking about people wearing two masks that have been fully vaccinated. | ||
And he said, it's theater. | ||
He's saying to Fauci. | ||
It's pure theater. | ||
There's a lot of it. | ||
There's a lot of letting people know, I am doing this double mask thing because this is what good people do. | ||
Why don't you wear five masks and And I don't have to wear any. | ||
So you'll be fully masked up. | ||
You don't care what happens with me. | ||
Don't worry about it. | ||
You're good. | ||
I was on the plane, and I started asking the nurse, and I said, so I'm on the plane, and we're in the tube. | ||
And you take off the mask to eat. | ||
And I take off the mask to eat, and the air above me is going... | ||
It's theater. | ||
And they go, well, the air in the... | ||
And the plane has a negative effect. | ||
So if this guy sneezes, I'm not going to get it because then we don't have to wear a mask if it's the air. | ||
If it's the air and a plane is safe, well then why we wear a mask? | ||
My friend Cody Garbrandt got kicked off a plane because his two-year-old son wouldn't keep his mask on. | ||
What airline? | ||
Southwest. | ||
They took him off the plane, but he was throwing a fit, and he went into the cockpit and filmed both of the pilots who didn't have masks on. | ||
And he said, we're all breathing the same fucking air, and you guys don't even have masks on. | ||
This is crazy. | ||
I have a friend that- A baby. | ||
Well, the new thing is, if you don't get a vaccine, because people are now saying you can't continue working. | ||
Who's saying that? | ||
I have a friend who works for... | ||
Something. | ||
Something. | ||
And she said... | ||
They said that you have to be fully vaccinated. | ||
You need to be vaccinated. | ||
There's hospitals doing it. | ||
There's doctors doing it. | ||
So here's the thing. | ||
If you don't know the effect, and you can't sue... | ||
Any of this trial, because at the end of the day it's a trial, I believe. | ||
I don't think it's... | ||
I think they admit. | ||
They don't know. | ||
We don't 100% know. | ||
Whatever it is. | ||
If I do have an effect... | ||
If I'm coming to work for Joe Rogan, and Joe goes, Jim, listen, they said you need to get vaccinated. | ||
And you get vaccinated and there's a negative consequence. | ||
I should be able to come after you. | ||
Who do I sue then? | ||
I would be the only person you could come after, because I don't think you can come after the company that makes them. | ||
No, they made it clear you can't. | ||
No, you can't. | ||
You know what, man? | ||
That's where we're going. | ||
What Rand Paul was saying to Fauci was that when people have got the virus and got over it, even the small amount of cases where people did get reinfected, it was very mild. | ||
And he was pointing out the fact that you keep these antibodies for a long time. | ||
And they're showing people, Jamie has antibodies from October. | ||
So here we are in March. | ||
It's almost April. | ||
And Jamie still has his antibodies from many months ago. | ||
But now what were you watching? | ||
What were you showing me with Rand Paul? | ||
Is Rand Paul talking to Fauci? | ||
On what? | ||
It's in the Senate. | ||
Okay, but here's how the media works. | ||
They're not going to show that. | ||
They're going to show Fauci Saying, well, it's whatever, because he was throwing smoke screens. | ||
He was throwing tear gas. | ||
Well, he was dancing around a circle. | ||
Hold on, hold on. | ||
In my opinion. | ||
He was responding to criticism from a politician that was questioning why Fauci was, in Rand Paul's opinion, spreading doom and gloom. | ||
going to have to wear masks for years. | ||
And he's saying, why are you saying that? | ||
He said, if you want people to get vaccinated, what you should be saying is, when you get vaccinated, you no longer have to wear a mask. | ||
Because what we're looking at when he said, in terms of the data that we're aware of, people post-infection, getting reinfected is extremely rare. | ||
And when they do get reinfected, it's much more mild. | ||
He talked about the data that shows that people are showing that they have these antibodies five, eight months after infection, just like Jamie does. | ||
Me. | ||
And they're saying, and what he was saying is, you are the voice of doom and gloom. | ||
One of the things that Fauci said that drives me crazy, he said, we're not going to be shaking hands anymore. | ||
Like, what are the... | ||
Yes, we are. | ||
Yes, we are. | ||
Yes, we are going to shake hands. | ||
What he constantly was questioned, Rand Paul? | ||
Yeah, Rand Paul. | ||
I try to tap as much. | ||
He kept questioning, you, Fauci, are talking about the science. | ||
What science do you have? | ||
And he wouldn't answer the question. | ||
He kept dancing in circles. | ||
He didn't have an answer. | ||
He did not have a science. | ||
You said, let's look at the science proves X, Y, and Z. You're doing theater. | ||
And every time he kept saying that, Fauci kept dancing and would not answer the question. | ||
But what you'll see on media later today, I guarantee you, will be Fauci with something he says as to, oh, Fauci says we need to X, Y, Z. And they won't show an inkling. | ||
Of that brilliant, very well... | ||
And if they did, they wouldn't be full and in context. | ||
That's mind control. | ||
That's not entertainment. | ||
That's mind control. | ||
That's a crime on humanity's mind. | ||
And you know when this began? | ||
When? | ||
Years ago. | ||
Should we get high now? | ||
I'm already high naturally, bro. | ||
You wanna? | ||
Knock it out. | ||
We get into this mind control talk. | ||
Bro! | ||
But listen to me! | ||
Yeah? | ||
If you go to the airport, I don't have a choice of what's playing at every gate. | ||
It's always CNN. Why? | ||
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Why? | |
Because they're trying to... | ||
It's mind control. | ||
No, they're trying to give you the news before you get on a plane. | ||
No, they're mind controlling you. | ||
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You think so? | |
That's a crime on humanity. | ||
I should not... | ||
That's a push. | ||
You're pushing it a little bit, I think. | ||
You may think so. | ||
Listen... | ||
Put on something neutral. | ||
It doesn't make you talk. | ||
Sometimes it's too loud. | ||
I can't even hear myself. | ||
I'm forced to go there. | ||
Otherwise, now I've got to go to the food. | ||
Why would you have... | ||
Television's blaring news at gates with children... | ||
And families of people that have no interest of what's going on. | ||
I should not be forced to have this eye pornography and ear pornography. | ||
So what do you think they should do? | ||
It shouldn't be there. | ||
Case closed. | ||
And if you're going to have TV, put flowers and ducks and puppies. | ||
But what if they do have to show you some news? | ||
Like what if a super volcano erupted and all flights are canceled and they just want to inform people? | ||
What did we do 40 years ago? | ||
Your flight's canceled. | ||
Why? | ||
I heard what's going on. | ||
It's not going to affect your life. | ||
Is your life going to change that second? | ||
I think some people like watching the news. | ||
Because they've been indoctrinated. | ||
Yeah, when they think that CNN is an unbiased source of news. | ||
Oh, I'm not saying CNN. I'm saying any news. | ||
It should not be up there. | ||
It's a mind crime. | ||
It's a crime on humanity's minds. | ||
I think there's an argument for that. | ||
And your emotions. | ||
If I'm watching people getting blown up or they're telling me This one's an asshole. | ||
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Or that one, I'm telling you, this one's... | |
You're telling everyone at that gate, and as much as it drives me nuts that people go, well, we have a mind of their own. | ||
Yeah, but not when it's manipulated 24-7. | ||
There's a good argument about the airport thing, because you really can't escape it, right? | ||
Because it's a rare moment where you're just sitting down in a place where you didn't choose to be at the news place. | ||
You choose to be at the plane place. | ||
I'm here to get on a plane. | ||
I'm not here to take in the news. | ||
I like this one, too. | ||
Like, you! | ||
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You! | |
I like this one. | ||
If you wear a mask on a plane, if you don't want to wear a mask, they say, you agreed to wear the mask. | ||
I had no choice. | ||
The airlines say... | ||
Why do they say that to you that you agreed? | ||
They don't say you agreed. | ||
There's videos that people get kicked off the plane of people like, you agreed. | ||
You agreed. | ||
Before you go on the plane, you wear the mask. | ||
I had no choice. | ||
If you don't wear the mask... | ||
They won't let you on the plane. | ||
They don't let you on the plane. | ||
The problem with it is... | ||
So now they're controlling you where you go. | ||
But the problem is, even if you do wear the mask, if you take it off to eat, all bets are off. | ||
Because now we're in nonsense land. | ||
We're nonsense! | ||
Listen, I tell everyone, just change. | ||
All you gotta do is just change it to an accent. | ||
We have no rules and regulations. | ||
The following is for your safety. | ||
It starts making more... | ||
It makes a lot more sense when you start doing that. | ||
You know what's weird is that all the social distancing and masks and all this shit, it seems to have worked for the flu. | ||
The flu is at the lowest rate that it's ever been in recorded history. | ||
So it's really, it's wild. | ||
So it's like one of two things that's happened. | ||
Either COVID is so fucking contagious that it transfers even when people are wearing masks and social distancing, it's still making its way through the population, which is what you see in California, right? | ||
Because California's had the strictest COVID lockdowns and the longest. | ||
But they have really high levels of COVID infection. | ||
They've had terrible, terrible results with their lockdowns. | ||
And then the economic results is the worst by far. | ||
I mean, they've doubled, more than doubled their unemployment rate. | ||
It's fucking chaos in terms of homeless people. | ||
75% of all LA restaurants are gone forever. | ||
I mean, it's a fucking wreck. | ||
It's a wreck. | ||
But if you look at the flu, The flu, it worked on the flu. | ||
So what is it? | ||
Is it that these masks and social distancing are super effective with the flu because the flu is just not quite as contagious, so it just knocked it dead? | ||
Is that what it is? | ||
Or? | ||
Or is it that a lot of people got both? | ||
They got COVID and they got the flu, and it accentuated their illness. | ||
And when we looked at it, we said, oh, this is a COVID infection. | ||
But is it a COVID infection plus a flu infection? | ||
Because it might be that. | ||
Because that's one of the things that does happen to people that get the flu, right? | ||
One of the things that happens when people get the flu, they can also get pneumonia, they can get a lot of other conditions. | ||
Bronchitis. | ||
Yeah, a lot of other things happen. | ||
And especially when you're dealing with infectious diseases and you have a compromised immune system. | ||
If you have the flu, man, your immune system is compromised. | ||
And if you have COVID and the flu, the thing is they're going to put the attention on COVID because COVID is the big one. | ||
That's the big one that's in the news. | ||
And unless you're dying, take vitamin C, D, and zinc according to infectious disease doctor. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, most. | ||
You shouldn't just take zinc. | ||
You should take zinc with something so that it gets into your cells better. | ||
And if you're going to take D, you should take D with K. I'll say I definitely tightened up. | ||
I got healthier. | ||
It made me think about how many times I shoved my fingers in my mouth. | ||
I'll tell you that. | ||
Not my nose, in my mouth. | ||
Touch your face. | ||
Touch my face. | ||
Touch my eyes. | ||
All that jazz. | ||
It made me think that way, but whatever. | ||
Yeah, it's the fucking immune system. | ||
I wasn't very funny. | ||
I apologize. | ||
You were funny for a long time. | ||
You just got a little crazy when we got to COVID. Is it crazy? | ||
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No. | |
But it is crazy. | ||
Here's what drives me nuts. | ||
Life is crazy. | ||
Life is crazy. | ||
I'm saddened. | ||
My rage against the machine is anything that I feel... | ||
Is unjust. | ||
And you're taking advantage of humanity. | ||
That makes me foam at the mouth. | ||
Angry. | ||
And that goes from faith. | ||
It makes me nuts. | ||
Makes me nuts. | ||
It used to be, fuck you, I won't do what you tell me. | ||
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me. | ||
Now it's... | ||
Fuck you. | ||
You better do what they tell you. | ||
Dude, can I tell you what a fucking reason I was? | ||
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Yes! | |
That's what it is. | ||
It's now you have to do what they tell you. | ||
They were a month away from a comeback before the shutdown happened. | ||
Were they? | ||
And they're supposed to play at Coachella in April. | ||
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Whoa. | |
Bro, in June, I was... | ||
This is what a knucklehead I am. | ||
With Zach DeLaRocha? | ||
The whole deal? | ||
He's right. | ||
Because I was ready to go see it. | ||
I was ready to go see it. | ||
Well, I think it was June, May or June. | ||
I live in this little town in Chester, New Jersey, and I'm driving through town. | ||
I've got my windows rolled down, and I purposely would keep that... | ||
Now they do what they told you. | ||
Now you do what they told you. | ||
Fuck you! | ||
And I'm going... | ||
And I would do this like on a daily basis. | ||
And I'm going, when am I 14? | ||
Like, am I really? | ||
And I'm blasting it. | ||
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And these little families like going to antique stores. | |
But it's just... | ||
This is... | ||
It made me... | ||
My kids sat me down like, Dad, you got a... | ||
You're nuts. | ||
You're full-blown nuts. | ||
What I'm worried is you and I are in our 50s and we're looking at this like guys who are older who are looking at the kids coming up today and going, what the fuck are they doing? | ||
I'm worried that the kids that are coming up that don't recognize that they are being mentally manipulated and the narrative is being controlled by the media and it's being perpetrated by the institutions and by the universities and that this woke narrative that keeps getting spread through all these kids. | ||
And if you don't comply, people will call you the worst things in the world. | ||
Like you're a racist, you're a homophobe, you're a bigot and nobody wants to be any of those things. | ||
So you will comply just so that you don't fall out of... | ||
Favor with these people that these poor kids won't have the opportunity to think for themselves. | ||
That they'll be so trapped in this ideology that we are dealing with something like Communist Russia. | ||
We are dealing with a controlled population that is totally adherent to an ideology. | ||
They're totally compliant to this ideology. | ||
I'm scared of that, man. | ||
Because that's... | ||
That could be what's bubbling up right now, but we won't know until it's too late. | ||
When all this shit was going on in the universities, I was complaining about it years ago. | ||
And I remember people saying, like, why do you care what's happening in universities? | ||
You're a comedian living in Los Angeles, and you're caring about these arguments in universities where they're shutting down conservative speakers and blowing bullhorns and setting off fire alarms. | ||
I'm like, this is thought control. | ||
Thank you. | ||
They're controlling the way these children see the world, and they're forcing compliance to this one ideology, whereas school is supposed to be about ideas competing. | ||
Yes. | ||
It's supposed to be the battleground of ideas, and you're supposed to be uncomfortable, and you're supposed to learn from things in these uncomfortable environments where people discuss things, and you get to hear one person's perspective versus another person's perspective. | ||
Is there nothing more exciting if we had four or five of us and we have all different views and we're just hanging out and we're just talking and, you know, I'm not really into what this one's saying, but like, you know what? | ||
I get it. | ||
I get where you're at. | ||
It doesn't exist anymore. | ||
No. | ||
It doesn't exist very often in very many places. | ||
I try to be as open-minded as possible with things while still having my own opinions. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But I try to... | ||
I really do. | ||
As much as I get criticized of not doing that, that is... | ||
It's hard. | ||
It's hard to do. | ||
I don't always do it the best. | ||
But I've listened to you. | ||
I think you do a damn good job. | ||
I'm not blowing smoke up people. | ||
I try. | ||
I really do. | ||
We all do. | ||
It's my idea. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Excuse me. | ||
It's my intent to... | ||
Listen and try to understand other people's perspective while also being rational, but also recognizing cult thinking. | ||
There's a lot of cult-like thinking going on, and that's what woke America is. | ||
Being woke is a cult. | ||
It doesn't mean being compassionate is a cult, being kind and considerate and open-minded and inclusive. | ||
All those things are wonderful. | ||
That's great. | ||
It's good for everybody. | ||
I'm a... | ||
Very open-minded person. | ||
Very inclusive person. | ||
I want everybody to be happy. | ||
I know that I'm different than other people. | ||
I know there's music I like that's different. | ||
There's activities I like that's different. | ||
I don't want you to like the things I like. | ||
You don't have to. | ||
Let's just be nice to each other and be respectful, decent human beings. | ||
It's not that hard. | ||
But that's not what's being promoted today. | ||
What's being promoted today is either you think the way I think or you're a bigot. | ||
That's dangerous because you're getting kids to think that they have to think a certain way or they'll be ostracized and to be a rebel to stand out against this woke shit that they're teaching it puts you in a very vulnerable position socially Very vulnerable position for people that are at their most vulnerable in life. | ||
Young people that are trying to find themselves and they're trying to fit in. | ||
They want social credibility. | ||
They want people to like them. | ||
And you have a very hard road if you don't toe the line and follow the ideology that's being pushed predominantly. | ||
Today. | ||
It's no different than following that white tiger in leather pants, just a different ideology. | ||
But you're following the same thing. | ||
It's very similar. | ||
Blindly. | ||
Yeah, it's very similar. | ||
People really do love to be a part of a group where you're accepted and appreciated. | ||
I know. | ||
I'm chilly. | ||
You're chilly? | ||
Really? | ||
I get chilly a lot. | ||
My hands get chilly. | ||
What's going on, man? | ||
Is that a post-COVID thing? | ||
It could be. | ||
Do you have COVID toes? | ||
I got COVID, Terry, and I got COVID eyes. | ||
My eyes get all chopped. | ||
Yeah, it's fucking weird, man. | ||
I started wanting to learn how to hunt. | ||
Yeah? | ||
I literally wanted to hunt. | ||
When the food was scarce? | ||
No. | ||
I started going, are we going to go into an area where we have to tap out? | ||
And this whole thing just made me think of everything differently. | ||
Like, if... | ||
If governments, because at the end of the day it's governments, are able to pull the rug on everything you possess, all your work, everything, and say where you can walk, how close you can stand next to each other, and as much as we believe that would never exist, are you prepped for, God forbid, The electric grid is turned off. | ||
And then you want to talk about chaos. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Wow! | |
Well, we came four minutes away from that here in Texas. | ||
The electric grid almost went down. | ||
When the power grid was really vulnerable because of the cold, because everybody was trying to heat their house up, and everybody had the power on, it almost collapsed. | ||
And that made me realize, wow! | ||
And it's really funny because my wife, who's in the Lord world, she found Jesus years ago. | ||
She's not like, hey, read the Bible, tell Joe, make sure he finds it. | ||
She's not like that. | ||
But that's her base, right? | ||
Where I'm more spiritual and... | ||
I remember I was going with a friend of mine. | ||
He's like, you want to learn to hunt? | ||
He's teaching me guns and all this stuff. | ||
I said, I want to start learning to hunt. | ||
Not only hunt, but I want to... | ||
New Jersey's actually a good place to learn to hunt. | ||
There's a lot of deer. | ||
Tons of deer. | ||
A lot of bear. | ||
A lot of bear. | ||
I think they stopped the bear hunt for a while. | ||
I don't know if I'd kill a bear. | ||
I don't know if I'd kill an animal yet. | ||
Yeah, you could. | ||
I know. | ||
Trust me. | ||
I'm sure I can. | ||
You could. | ||
I'd have to indie it, Joe. | ||
No, if I needed it, I could do it. | ||
You'd have to Indian it? | ||
Yeah, meaning like, I'm sorry, the spirit world, I'm going to eat you. | ||
I'm so sorry I had to take your life. | ||
I'll make sure it's done well. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
That's what I mean. | ||
I get it. | ||
Give it blessings. | ||
I don't know if I personally can take out an animal yet... | ||
But I booked it, right? | ||
I booked it. | ||
We were going to go on a hog hunt. | ||
Oh, that's a good one to go on. | ||
Yeah, we're going to go on a hog hunt. | ||
Where are you going? | ||
Tennessee. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
But I got my first gig booked the week we were supposed to go. | ||
I was like, listen, man, I haven't had money in a long time, which also changed my world, too. | ||
I don't have... | ||
I don't have the means to go. | ||
I don't need to work. | ||
Right. | ||
You have to work. | ||
This one's in private. | ||
This one's in college. | ||
Thank God I was able to go as long as I did without it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But I went, you know what? | ||
I want to know, God forbid, I can take this thing. | ||
He's like, oh, bro, I'll bring it in. | ||
Okay, it was all hooked up, and I remember having dinner with my wife, and we're with another couple, and we're sitting there, and if I have two drinks, I'm happy, and I'm chatterbox. | ||
And I'm sitting there, and they're like, yeah, you know, I didn't meet, and I went, oh my god, I'm going for my first hunt. | ||
And Dee goes, what'd you say? | ||
I said, Frank's bringing me on. | ||
I'm going to learn how to show you. | ||
She's like, no, you're not. | ||
I went, yeah, I am. | ||
I said, I'm not killing it. | ||
I'm just going to watch. | ||
I'm just going to watch and I'm going to learn how to cut it. | ||
But no, I want to learn to cut the animal, stock the meat. | ||
How do you stock the meat? | ||
Am I able to eat this down the road? | ||
Am I able to... | ||
I want to learn how to fish all to survive, not to... | ||
And I really want to start getting into that, bro. | ||
I really want to start getting into that. | ||
People don't... | ||
Oh, so what I was going to say was, so two weeks later, it gets blown out of the water, and I told Dee, I'm like, Dee, listen to me. | ||
The reason why I was doing that, I said, I'm going to be dead honest with you. | ||
Because there's a little part of me that's freaked out. | ||
I'm going to be blatantly honest. | ||
There's a little part of me freaked out. | ||
I don't know where this world is going. | ||
If you told me the world's going to shut down and tell you what to do and think and blah, blah, blah. | ||
I said, I saw this years ago, but now it's intense. | ||
Now it's getting intense. | ||
I go, I want to know. | ||
And she goes, Jim. | ||
I'll be killing the animal and I'll be skinning the animal and so will your youngest daughter. | ||
And she made me belly laugh so hard because she was dead serious. | ||
My wife... | ||
So why didn't she want you to go hunt? | ||
She just thought, she's like, you don't need to learn that right now. | ||
You're doing it at Fiat, but I want to. | ||
Listen to me. | ||
I'm listening. | ||
Listen to me. | ||
Hunting is not easy. | ||
It's not something you just do. | ||
You've got to learn how to do it. | ||
And it takes a long time. | ||
I've been doing it for almost a decade. | ||
It takes a long time. | ||
I'm barely good at it. | ||
If I'm on my own, it's hit or miss. | ||
I use guides to help me. | ||
I use guides to show me where it's the best place and I learn from them. | ||
Just like when I did martial arts, I used coaches and I learned. | ||
I'm a good listener. | ||
I'm a good student. | ||
Everything I know about hunting, I know from my friends that taught me how to hunt. | ||
My friends like Cam Haynes and John Dudley and Steve Rinella. | ||
They taught me how, and then I learned from guides, and I do it that way because I'm humble, and I'm open-minded, and I know what I can do and what I can't do by myself. | ||
I have a limited amount of time. | ||
The amount of information that you have to know to be good at hunting is staggering. | ||
It's not simple. | ||
You have to be physically fit. | ||
No. | ||
Because the animals are fucking smart and they go in the woods and they hide. | ||
They go in the mountains, they go in high altitude. | ||
Elk, generally, they're not a high altitude animal. | ||
They used to be on the plains. | ||
The problem is people came along and so they relocated to the mountains because they know it's hard for us to get around. | ||
They've figured these things out. | ||
If you want to be a successful hunter, you've got to learn how to do it. | ||
This idea that once civilization collapses, oh, then I'll learn hunting. | ||
The fuck you will. | ||
The fuck you will. | ||
You ain't going to learn shit. | ||
And you need someone to show you how to do it. | ||
And that's why I want to start learning now. | ||
And I also know, just like... | ||
On a completely different way, golfing. | ||
If you're going to learn to golf... | ||
Yeah, you need to learn. | ||
You need to go with guys that aren't intense. | ||
They're willing to teach you. | ||
So with this hunting, I still... | ||
I'm going to go, but I want teachers. | ||
You need a guide. | ||
I know you're totally wet behind the ears. | ||
And I'm going to show you everything. | ||
You're going to have to learn a lot. | ||
And you're also going to have to be fit. | ||
It's not an easy thing to do, man. | ||
Especially if you want to go after any animal that's a mountain animal. | ||
It's fucking really hard. | ||
And this is coming from a guy who's worked out his whole life. | ||
Still, it's hard for me. | ||
I have a guy who wants to take me to... | ||
Bro, his name is Will Jamero. | ||
He was in the World War II. He was trapped. | ||
In the towers. | ||
They did a whole movie on it. | ||
He lives in my town. | ||
The guy is an insane hunter. | ||
He's full-blown. | ||
How old is he? | ||
He's like our age. | ||
He was in World War II and he's our age. | ||
What did I say? | ||
World War II? Oh my god. | ||
Twin Towers. | ||
Jesus. | ||
Okay, I didn't understand. | ||
Will, I am so sorry. | ||
You meant 9-11. | ||
Yes, I meant 9-11. | ||
Wow, I'm getting too much here. | ||
That's 2001, Jim. | ||
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Wow! | |
Not 1940. I was like, how old is this guy? | ||
He's our age. | ||
I think your friend might be full of shit. | ||
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Whoa! | |
No, no, no. | ||
I believe what I'm saying. | ||
Imagine running into a guy who said, I was in World War II. I was in World War II. You're 40. That's right. | ||
I'm 47. But it happened in 1942. That's right. | ||
Well, I was there. | ||
Goddamn Japanese. | ||
I was in the Philippines. | ||
But this guy, he shows me his stuff, and he tells me to say he spends two weeks in the middle of nowhere. | ||
No! | ||
One of the backpack guys? | ||
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Oh yeah! | |
He's intense! | ||
I have a few buddies that do that. | ||
They do solo. | ||
My friend Adam Greentree, he does these long solo hunts where he'll go into the mountains for fucking... | ||
He did one where he did it all and documented a lot of it on Instagram. | ||
We followed along and got a bunch of other people to follow him along too. | ||
But he was by himself with solar chargers to charge his cell phone in the mountains. | ||
It took 28 days. | ||
Until he was successful. | ||
Camping out in the woods, and he had multiple encounters with a grizzly bear. | ||
One of them where he's getting charged, and he's pointing a pistol at her. | ||
She had her cubs, and she was trying to scare him off. | ||
So she would charge at him and stop like 10 yards away from him. | ||
Like, fucking hair, standing straight up, teeth gnashing. | ||
You know, 600-pound grizzly bear, full charge. | ||
Men I hear... | ||
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No way. | |
No way. | ||
It's dangerous. | ||
Have you ever dealt with that? | ||
I've never dealt with a charging grizzly bear, but I saw a grizzly bear once. | ||
It stared at me in a way that I've never had an animal stare at me. | ||
Because most animals... | ||
I've never encountered a cougar... | ||
Or a mountain lion in the woods. | ||
I've seen them twice. | ||
Once in Santa Barbara, just driving. | ||
I saw one on the street, ran across the road. | ||
I didn't realize what it was until it got halfway across the road. | ||
I saw its tail. | ||
And I'm like, oh my god, that's a cat. | ||
And I realized, oh shit, that's a mountain lion. | ||
And that was in the Montecito area of Santa Barbara. | ||
And then another time I saw one that wasn't as clear in Colorado. | ||
It was a tan thing moving through the woods very quickly. | ||
And I go, oh shit, that's a cat. | ||
But that was less clear than the Santa Barbara one. | ||
But I've never seen one eye-to-eye where I was looking at it and it was looking at me. | ||
But I did have that happen in Canada with a grizzly. | ||
And it looked me right in the eye like this. | ||
Black dead eyes. | ||
And we had shotguns. | ||
We were actually bow hunting, but we brought shotguns because we were moving into an area that did have grizzlies. | ||
And it was spooky, man. | ||
It wasn't even a big grizzly bear. | ||
It was like a six-foot bear. | ||
But the way it looked at you, man, it's a different way of looking at you. | ||
They have a different feel. | ||
Like any other animal. | ||
Because they're looking at you like, is this what I'm eating today? | ||
Because they're just looking for things to eat all the time. | ||
They're... | ||
Enormous predators. | ||
Oh my gosh. | ||
Yeah, so it was like not that big. | ||
For a grizzly, it was like maybe six foot tall, maybe 250 pounds, maybe 300 pounds. | ||
For a grizzly, it's not that big. | ||
They get way, way bigger than that. | ||
So this one looking at me... | ||
But the darkness in its eyes, man, it's like shark eyes, like these black, cold, unfeeling, dark eyes. | ||
It's so weird, man. | ||
It's hard to explain when you lock eyes with a predator and they have the intention of eating you. | ||
It is a weird fucking feeling, man. | ||
We got out of there quick. | ||
I was with a friend of mine. | ||
Who's a guide. | ||
Made a lot of noise. | ||
Got out of the scene. | ||
But it was weird. | ||
It's weird to see. | ||
I started... | ||
I love scuba diving. | ||
I want to get more intense with the scuba diving. | ||
Oh, that's terrifying. | ||
I love it. | ||
That's their world. | ||
That's their world. | ||
At least the woods. | ||
You walk on the ground, too. | ||
And you can... | ||
Correct. | ||
Climb a tree. | ||
But I saw a shark for the first time. | ||
In the water? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Scuba diving? | ||
Yes. | ||
How far away? | ||
It was far enough that I was not worried. | ||
Do you have a spear gun? | ||
No, nothing. | ||
And so it's me and my daughter stopped, and just seeing the way it moves... | ||
And the minute it knew we were there, it kind of stopped, and then it made a complete left and didn't want anything to do with us. | ||
But just to see it moving like this, and it made me want to get more... | ||
So I start following... | ||
And then just like hunting and all that, you learn more and more and more. | ||
You get good guides, and it changes the whole underworld. | ||
And you realize most... | ||
Shark attacks are surfers and snorkelers, because they like coming in from behind. | ||
And they don't like facing you straight on. | ||
They don't like that at all. | ||
And some people that will, believe it or not, when a shark is coming to you, Most of the time, it's not coming to eat you. | ||
It's coming to check you out at first. | ||
And the real aggressive ones that will come towards you, very rarely they open their mouth to take a chomp because you don't know it's coming. | ||
They're coming from behind. | ||
As long as you face it, always face it. | ||
You're so much safer. | ||
And then if it does come to you, just kind of... | ||
Nah, I haven't had that experience. | ||
What are you doing, Aikido? | ||
Yeah, you do this. | ||
You push it. | ||
You push it to the side. | ||
And they're like, oh, I don't want to deal with you. | ||
Have you seen that video recently? | ||
I don't want to deal with you. | ||
Recent video of this shark that's swimming straight at a guy and he spears it in the mouth? | ||
No! | ||
The thing is coming at him like 50 miles an hour. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
Straight on? | ||
Straight on. | ||
Coming full bore at him with its mouth open. | ||
He shoves his spear gun in its mouth and pulls the trigger. | ||
Great White? | ||
I don't know what it was. | ||
There's one... | ||
You know the video. | ||
Jamie's seen the video. | ||
I see one where the guy... | ||
A bull shark? | ||
Bull sharks are nasty. | ||
Watch this. | ||
Them and tigers. | ||
Watch this. | ||
Okay. | ||
So this guy's in there spearfishing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And look at this motherfucker. | ||
Oh! | ||
Right at him. | ||
He was coming right for him. | ||
Right? | ||
Full blast. | ||
He was coming for him. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Shot him right in the mouth. | ||
Good. | ||
Wow! | ||
I'm eating bull shark for the next couple months. | ||
Isn't that nuts? | ||
That's a dangerous animal. | ||
Do you know the New Jersey story that inspired Jaws? | ||
Do you know that story? | ||
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No. | |
Here's the thing about bull sharks. | ||
Bull sharks swim upriver, so they swim in fresh water. | ||
They found bull sharks as far north as Illinois. | ||
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What? | |
Yeah, bull sharks have made it as far north up the Mississippi River as Illinois. | ||
They can swim hundreds of miles through fresh water. | ||
So the attacks from the early 1900s that inspired the movie Jaws were actually attacks on a river. | ||
It was a river that was in New Jersey. | ||
Wow. | ||
It was a series of people that were murdered by bull sharks. | ||
They were killed by bull sharks. | ||
I forget the river, but this is like early 1900s where they wore those goofy Popeye-style bathing suits. | ||
They probably thought it was a seal or something. | ||
No, they thought it was food. | ||
They don't give a fuck. | ||
It's just like you said with the grizzly bears. | ||
Bull sharks are vicious. | ||
And it's food. | ||
But there's an area in Florida on the East Coast. | ||
Where my friend went and dove with the nurse sharks? | ||
Oh yeah, nurse sharks are peaceful. | ||
Whale sharks? | ||
I'm sorry, not nurse sharks. | ||
Tiger sharks. | ||
Oh, those are dangerous too. | ||
And it's a breeding ground. | ||
And this maniac, they jump in. | ||
You pay a lot of money to go in there. | ||
To almost die. | ||
To almost die! | ||
And they tell you, like, you gotta keep constantly... | ||
No, I don't... | ||
Why? | ||
I don't want to do that. | ||
But I will say this. | ||
That's part of life I love. | ||
Like, this summer, I have planned... | ||
There's part of me that wants to tap out, Joe. | ||
About what? | ||
Tap out to what? | ||
Just full-blown jungle society. | ||
I know I'm not going to do it. | ||
Like live in the woods? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Live off the land? | ||
Costa Rica. | ||
Ooh. | ||
Costa Rica's nice. | ||
Costa Rica. | ||
Until things get lawless. | ||
Then you realize, like, oh, I want the Constitution on my side. | ||
And that's the danger. | ||
That is the danger. | ||
You got to go there. | ||
You got to acquire enough money to have your own military. | ||
And then... | ||
You're right, man. | ||
You gotta acquire enormous amounts of money and then pay a bunch of trained killers very well. | ||
Yes! | ||
And to guard your community. | ||
And then bring in a bunch of other friends. | ||
Everybody chips in and make sure you got a lot of bullets. | ||
And no one goes too far. | ||
You never went on a safari or anything like that? | ||
No. | ||
No, I've never been on safaris. | ||
I'm gonna go with the gorillas this summer. | ||
Yeah? | ||
I can't wait. | ||
Where are you going? | ||
Uganda. | ||
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Zimbabwe. | |
Holy shit. | ||
Tanzania. | ||
Wow. | ||
That's intense. | ||
I would go. | ||
I would certainly go. | ||
The thing is, children are not supposed to take those fucking malaria shots. | ||
It's really... | ||
They can be really rough. | ||
Yeah, but they can be rough. | ||
The malaria medication can be very, very rough on kids. | ||
And the last thing you want is your kid to get fucking malaria. | ||
I have a buddy who's got malaria three times. | ||
Where does he live? | ||
Well, he works for... | ||
He has a non-profit called Fight for the Forgotten. | ||
His name's Justin Wren. | ||
He's a great guy. | ||
Like, one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. | ||
And he builds wells for the pygmies. | ||
He's doing it in Uganda, and he also did it in the Congo, and he got malaria three fucking times. | ||
And one time he got malaria when he wasn't even there. | ||
He got malaria because he got weakened and sick, and then the malaria kicked in again, so it was dormant in his body. | ||
He also got some crazy fucking brain parasite that fucked with him. | ||
It was a parasite that it was very difficult for them to even identify at first. | ||
They didn't know what it was. | ||
So they had to give him all this medication and it lasted for fucking months and months and months. | ||
And he went to all these different specialists and he's just now coming out of the fog of it. | ||
But it was, I forget the exact term that he used or what this parasite was, but it had worked its way through his system and it was some sort of a cerebral parasite. | ||
It was in his gut, it was in his body, it was in everywhere. | ||
It was real bad. | ||
Cancel the trip to Africa immediately, please. | ||
Yeah, but he was deep in the jungle, like living in a hut with the pygmies, deep in the Congo. | ||
And also bathing in the river, which is fucking dangerous. | ||
That's the big danger. | ||
I was there years ago, and we came on this beautiful island. | ||
And there are no predators on the island, but they said, don't go in the water. | ||
I'm like, but this water's huge. | ||
They're like, don't go swimming. | ||
Like, why not? | ||
Parasites all over the place. | ||
They'll swim up your dick. | ||
To tap down. | ||
You know about that? | ||
Yes, tap down. | ||
No way. | ||
Swim up your dick. | ||
In your penis hole. | ||
In the hole. | ||
In your dick hole. | ||
That's where they want to camp out. | ||
That's their cave. | ||
they swim up the cave and then they have spines and they attach themselves to the inside of your dick hole and they have to pull them out with tweezers and when they pull them out it rips the inside of your dick apart. | ||
I'm making all this up. | ||
That's why I don't even want to go to a hospital. | ||
In the Amazon, they do swim up your dick hole. | ||
Yes. | ||
One of my biggest fears is if I go to the hospital and I'm out, I know I don't want to... | ||
That's the dick fish. | ||
That's the dick fish. | ||
Ew, it goes in your dick. | ||
Yeah, how do you say that name, Jamie? | ||
Candiru. | ||
Candiru? | ||
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It sounds like that. | |
Candida, which is also very bad, but that's sugar. | ||
The fish, yeah, that's Candida, right? | ||
The fish with a bad rep for human private parts parasitation. | ||
So that, look how big it is. | ||
Imagine if that thing's clogging up your pee hole. | ||
You'd have to jerk off to get rid of it. | ||
Look at this guy. | ||
That's what he's doing right there. | ||
Blast him out. | ||
Yes! | ||
He's trying to blast him out right now. | ||
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Boom, boom, boom. | |
You have to save your loads up for several weeks and then drown it. | ||
What are you doing over there? | ||
It's a flood to drown them. | ||
Yeah, but they swim up your dickhole. | ||
Apparently, if you pee in the water, they're attracted. | ||
What is that? | ||
I thought it was a surgery. | ||
Is that an x-ray? | ||
It looks like from a surgery. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
Oh my god, that big thing was inside that guy's dick? | ||
I can't. | ||
It swims up your urine stream. | ||
How size is this guy's donkey? | ||
That's a big donkey. | ||
It's a giant hog. | ||
I don't got anything close to that. | ||
Super giant hog, and that thing's inside of it. | ||
It's terrifying. | ||
I don't want to go to hospital. | ||
It's just because I don't want a catheter in it. | ||
I get it. | ||
Look at that one. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
That's not it. | ||
That's what it reminds me of. | ||
What is that? | ||
It's a different... | ||
Someone might have stuck something up or something. | ||
Oh, he stuck a fucking bottle opener up his... | ||
That looks like a fork. | ||
He stuck a fork up his cock hole. | ||
How fucked up do you gotta be? | ||
My buddy Steve Graham used to work, he's an ophthalmologist, and he did his residency in Miami during the cocaine days, during the 1980s. | ||
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The 80s? | |
Oh my god, yeah. | ||
And he showed me a ton of pictures. | ||
But they had people that had everything up their asshole. | ||
Like G.I. Joe dolls. | ||
One guy, you know one of them curly pine cone looking light bulbs? | ||
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Yes! | |
One guy shoved one of those up his ass. | ||
It shattered in his ass. | ||
Is that a crazy thing? | ||
Do you have to be homosexual? | ||
No. | ||
That's just a crazy thing, right? | ||
Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
You've lost your mind now. | ||
Sexual preference. | ||
Right? | ||
You're past the sexual preference. | ||
You're like, we're just going to start. | ||
Go get the fucking chair! | ||
You ever seen the guy that had, there's a video that was going around the internet a while back of a guy with a mason jar, one of those glass mason jars, you know, that people would drink, like, lemonade out of? | ||
You know those mason jars? | ||
He shoved it up his asshole and then it shattered. | ||
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What? | |
Yeah, it shattered. | ||
And then the glass chunk... | ||
This guy's squatting. | ||
Voluntarily! | ||
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
He's doing it on purpose. | ||
The glass chunks were dropping out of his asshole with blood, just falling to the ground. | ||
It was one of the most hardcore videos. | ||
This is back in the Style Project days. | ||
This is back in like, there was a website called Style Project, like way back in the 90s, maybe the early 2000s, that had like the most hardcore shit. | ||
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Bro. | |
This guy, Style, would find everything fucked up. | ||
And then there was another website called Body Modification Extreme, BME Extreme. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
And it was all like the most wild shit that people were doing to their bodies. | ||
But around the Two Girls One Cup days, people were shoving all kinds of things up their ass, and this guy shoved, it was like a glass jar up his ass, and it shattered. | ||
And the chunks of glass falling out of his ass with blood, right? | ||
Because he's bleeding internally. | ||
He's probably dead. | ||
What do you want? | ||
You want to start shoving shit in our ass, Joe? | ||
Like, how do you get to that point? | ||
How do you go... | ||
That's a good question. | ||
Let's start with... | ||
Let's just start with the ashtray. | ||
You know, people probably would say that about me with tattoos. | ||
Like, how do you get to your arms are sleeved up in tattoos? | ||
Yeah, but they're not up your ass. | ||
I know, but you see what I'm saying? | ||
Like, then it gets to face tattoos. | ||
Then it gets to, like, dick tattoos. | ||
And maybe some people get their nipples pierced. | ||
And then next thing you know, they want to stuff things in their ass. | ||
Maybe it feels good. | ||
So they stuff more. | ||
Maybe they hate themselves. | ||
So they put a mason jar up there. | ||
No. | ||
I fucking hate myself! | ||
It's one of the worst videos I've ever seen, though, because he's squatting, and you hear the crack of a glass, like a glass shattering inside a bag, like a meat bag. | ||
Like the glass... | ||
Yeah. | ||
And then you hear clunk, clunk, and then drip, drip. | ||
Got it? | ||
I'm digging into this. | ||
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I am not going to encourage these videos. | |
1855. What? | ||
The story of swimming up a penis, urethra. | ||
That was the first documented one? | ||
According to this article, there's only one modern case that's been documented, and it was in 1997. That's all I need. | ||
That's all I need, too. | ||
I don't need a whole ton of people getting dickfish. | ||
Just one is enough for me not to be in that river. | ||
If it's real, it's real. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
It's like, whoa, there's no worries. | ||
You just double mask your penis. | ||
I just kept looking for pictures, and then one of them started saying, like, myth, this isn't real. | ||
It's 90% myth. | ||
It's just... | ||
And then I started trying to figure it out. | ||
Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's not real. | ||
That's the same stupid logic that people use when it comes to bear attacks or shark attacks. | ||
Like, it's so rare. | ||
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The odds of you getting struck by lightning are far higher. | |
It's still a possibility. | ||
Yeah, just push that fish away. | ||
Aikido style. | ||
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Ha! | |
Like you're the fucking karate instructor in Napoleon Dynamite. | ||
That's the other thing I wanted to do. | ||
Break the wrist. | ||
Walk away. | ||
That's the other thing I was going to... | ||
So I was hunting, and I was going to try to learn... | ||
Jiu-Jitsu, right? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
I'm like, I'm too old, man. | ||
You're not too old. | ||
Anthony Bourdain didn't start until he was like 58. Really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because I think that would put me in insane shape. | ||
Yeah, it will. | ||
My biggest fear is just some punk. | ||
Mm-hmm. | ||
And I'm like, I'm really not asking for this, bro. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I just want to get my car. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Just want to get out of here. | ||
I got my wife with me. | ||
I just watch someone taking me. | ||
That's like my biggest... | ||
Because the old days of just giving you a kick or a punch or running... | ||
And when these kids get on top of you, it's like I have an alligator on you. | ||
So there is a pup, but it's hard to find where that place is. | ||
What do you mean? | ||
A martial arts place? | ||
I could find you that. | ||
A real good one in Jersey. | ||
Oh, I could find you that. | ||
I can find you that. | ||
Jersey. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
I'm sure there's a place near you. | ||
No, listen, I'm sure within a drive, within a normal drive, there's a good place near you. | ||
Within an hour? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
I guarantee you. | ||
100%. | ||
I would love to do that. | ||
How far are you from the city? | ||
Oh, good. | ||
I don't want anything to... | ||
No, you don't have to go to the city, but how far are you? | ||
I'm an hour. | ||
Oh, then 1,000%. | ||
There's somewhere near you that will be good. | ||
There's a lot of good places in New Jersey. | ||
There's plenty of good jiu-jitsu. | ||
Jiu-jitsu is so widespread now. | ||
Listen, it's a great thing to learn just for your mental health because it's exhausting and it just makes you feel good when you get out of there. | ||
You're relaxed, you know? | ||
Well, not only that, it's part of a... | ||
Years and years and years and years ago, whatever, I would train with these guys. | ||
There were green berets. | ||
I was a kid, right? | ||
But one of the most fascinating parts about it, which I'll never forget, which I think saved my life one day, Was this one guy, Sensei Romeo. | ||
He would give these long... | ||
He was a little guy, but he had these intense piercing eyes with these black freaking eyebrows, right? | ||
And he would talk about the true warrior knows how to avoid and use your mind... | ||
Before the physical, if you can avoid the physical and tear down your enemy with the mind... | ||
How are you going to do that? | ||
Well, check this out. | ||
Okay. | ||
So, I just remember him talking about if you know you're not going to win it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
So, cut to... | ||
This is weird, Joe. | ||
I'm in Denver, Colorado with my dad. | ||
My dad's getting his 80s, and I bring him around a lot. | ||
I know he's getting me around a lot, but I love having my dad around. | ||
So my dad, he's having a blast. | ||
This one day, and I meditate a lot. | ||
Do you? | ||
Yeah, meditate, pray, whatever. | ||
What kind of meditation do you do? | ||
I just silence. | ||
I'll sit... | ||
Today I walked along the river, sat down, and I ask, whatever you want me to think, whatever you want me to put out there, what do you want me to do? | ||
And then I'm silent, and then whatever comes in, and that's what I do. | ||
I go on a Did you learn how to do this or did you just do it on your own? | ||
Did you learn a method? | ||
I did it on my own. | ||
Sometimes I'll listen to Indian flute music, Native American music. | ||
But I've done this a long... | ||
It's helped me tremendously move in time. | ||
Tremendously. | ||
So on this one particular day... | ||
I go to the gym. | ||
I'm working out in the gym. | ||
Don't ask me why. | ||
I was on the bench, and I was the only one in there, and I'm sitting there, and I just started zoning out, and Sensei Romeo, his whole speech, and I'm going, why am I thinking of him right now? | ||
This is weird. | ||
So as I'm thinking of him, he starts, I see that whole speech about you never know, and you have to avoid, and when you attack, and it's more learning your, all this jazz, right? | ||
Cut to... | ||
That night, after the show, the whole staff is like, hey, you want to go to, you know, we're all going to go out. | ||
Let's bring your dad out. | ||
It's my last night. | ||
And they probably have room for one more drink because it's a late show. | ||
So we go there. | ||
We're in downtown Denver. | ||
We have the whole table in the... | ||
There's a glass thing looking in the street. | ||
I was sitting there in a bar, guys, to my right. | ||
I wonder if he's the setup. | ||
I don't know. | ||
He might have been the setup, the more I think about it. | ||
I don't understand where this guy came and how he knew where I was. | ||
All of a sudden, this huge biker... | ||
I mean, he's got the... | ||
He doesn't have brass knuckles, but he's got shit around his knuckles, so clearly he's ready to use them. | ||
He's about six foot something, and he sees me in the glass window, and he walks in, and he leans over... | ||
My father's right here. | ||
He leans over my father and grabs me. | ||
He's like, fucking outside! | ||
Right fucking now! | ||
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
You don't know this guy at all? | ||
No, but right now I have no clue who this human being is. | ||
Right. | ||
No fucking clue. | ||
Okay. | ||
I said, okay, okay, okay, relax, you ready? | ||
He goes, I was at the fucking show. | ||
You disrespected my family outside. | ||
I'm going... | ||
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What the fuck is this guy? | |
But my biggest concern right now is not this guy. | ||
It's my dad having a heart attack. | ||
Right. | ||
Because my dad will get up. | ||
He's a World War II vet. | ||
He don't give a shit. | ||
Right. | ||
He's going to die. | ||
That's my concern. | ||
I've got to protect him. | ||
Now, the whole staff is like, but the more they want to get involved, the angrier he got. | ||
So I was like, hey, hey, hey. | ||
You want to talk? | ||
We'll go outside and we'll talk. | ||
I don't know why I was so calm. | ||
To this day I don't know why I was so calm. | ||
So, I go outside the front door. | ||
I said, what's going on, man? | ||
He goes, you fucking disrespect my family. | ||
You disrespected my sister tonight. | ||
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You never fucking... | |
I said, okay. | ||
Okay, I don't know what you're talking about, so you have to tell me what's going on here. | ||
He goes, tonight, my sister passed out. | ||
Now it's coming to me. | ||
I know exactly what happened. | ||
He was in the audience with his sister and a bunch of people, and during the show, all I heard was crash! | ||
And everyone was like, and I could not see. | ||
And I went, everything alright? | ||
Everything alright? | ||
What's going on? | ||
I didn't know if there was a fight or whatever, and they're like, ah, she's drunk. | ||
It was a woman on the floor. | ||
I said, is she okay? | ||
Is she alright? | ||
I don't know if she's spasming. | ||
I don't know what the fuck's going on. | ||
So they lift her up, and I realize she's just drunk. | ||
Okay, we're okay now. | ||
Now people are starting like, I said, oh man. | ||
Now I waited till they were long on their way out. | ||
And all I said was, she is not going to have a good rest of the night. | ||
I go, this is just the beginning. | ||
I said, thank God she's okay, but this is just the beginning. | ||
And I go off on a whole, I go on a character of what her events are going to be, and she needs to pull over, and she's out of the way, and the people, and they're howling. | ||
Okay, so I'm crushing it now. | ||
So it all comes to me, okay, this is the situation. | ||
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And he goes, my fucking sister, are you disrespected? | |
I said, okay. | ||
Sensei Romeo goes, and I go like this, I go, Okay, I'm just going to explain one thing to you, and if you feel you still want to... | ||
And dude, I swear to God, Joe, I looked to my right, and I said, okay, that's where I'm going to fall when he hits me, because he's clearly going to hit me. | ||
And that's a little sharp right there, so... | ||
It's all bricks. | ||
And I'm looking at my dad. | ||
And now my job, in my head, I went, I need to talk to him as long as I can until at least police arrive. | ||
So when he does hit me, I have enough time to recover before he possibly kills me. | ||
This is what's going on in my head. | ||
And he goes, he said... | ||
Well, he said, you know, disrespect my sister. | ||
So I said, listen, what is your name? | ||
He goes, John. | ||
I said, John, okay. | ||
If you remember tonight, the first thing I said is, is she okay? | ||
Did I not ask about her health? | ||
He goes, you did. | ||
You fucking did. | ||
I said, now, when I realized she was okay, did I make fun of her? | ||
When we will walk us! | ||
Hold on now. | ||
Hold on now. | ||
Remember, I waited till you started walking. | ||
Now what you need to understand is that whole crowd pays a lot of money From my attention. | ||
I go, now they're all staring at your sister. | ||
They're staring at you. | ||
They started saying things. | ||
So now my job is to get that attention off you as you get her out into safety and then get it back on me. | ||
Now I didn't say anything derogatory towards her. | ||
I didn't call her a stupid bitch or a drunk whore. | ||
All I said was, oh man, her night is just beginning. | ||
It's gonna go from here to here and the more they left it was back on me and then and that this guy on my kids lives hope I die if I'm lying started crying and he goes could you talk to my wife and tell her I'm not going to jail tonight oh Jesus swear to God and I went sure He goes, no man, it's cool that you just... | ||
Because he was planning on hitting you and then going to jail. | ||
Fucking me up to go to jail because of his drunk... | ||
You almost called her a whore. | ||
But I didn't! | ||
And now I'm on the line with a female who's going... | ||
Pretty much. | ||
That's all I heard. | ||
That's all I heard. | ||
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But... | |
Because of... | ||
Whether it was the meditation, I truly believe it was the meditating or learning that experience of always check your surroundings. | ||
I still do it. | ||
I walk nonstop. | ||
I'm always looking at my surroundings, what my exit route is. | ||
If this person approaches me, how am I going to get out? | ||
Nonstop. | ||
And that's through... | ||
Battle training. | ||
But I feel like I need... | ||
In my head! | ||
You laugh at me, dude. | ||
Battle training? | ||
Whatever the fuck you call it. | ||
You know what I mean. | ||
It's always good to talk to people rather than get in fights with them. | ||
What's that? | ||
It's always good to talk to people rather than get in fights with them. | ||
But that guy's extremely demanding. | ||
That's preposterous. | ||
But if you can't, in that scenario, if I didn't have the patience to talk to him and I was ready to fucking go down, I'm doomed. | ||
I would have gotten fucking murdered. | ||
So you want to learn how to fight? | ||
I want to learn how to... | ||
Defend yourself. | ||
God forbid... | ||
I can't talk out. | ||
And I can take care. | ||
I've been in brawls. | ||
There's nothing more... | ||
Brawls are not fun. | ||
When you're hit from behind, and next thing you know, you're on the floor, and you gotta fucking curl up, and this jackass is trying to kick in, and you gotta hope you're... | ||
It's all about panic. | ||
You can't panic. | ||
And once I was on the floor, and this guy's getting fucked up, and this guy's... | ||
It's... | ||
I don't think I'd ever be in that position because I was young. | ||
But I think it's very important that everybody... | ||
Like, that should be a course in school. | ||
What the fuck are we learning about Ponce de Leon? | ||
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Who gives a shit? | |
How about we train them? | ||
We're going to train how to battle, how to be in a position where you're attacked, blah, blah, blah. | ||
Listen, most of that stuff is nonsense, which you really need to learn as a martial art. | ||
Most of that, like when someone comes at you, you grab them here, and then you do this. | ||
You don't train that. | ||
You're not going to remember that. | ||
No. | ||
You need to learn concepts. | ||
But it's good for everybody because it keeps people from being assholes. | ||
Like when you really know how to fight, you're very rarely going to fight. | ||
You're very rarely an asshole. | ||
And that's what I was saying. | ||
Once you learn it, I'm not going to be an asshole. | ||
I just know what I'm capable of. | ||
So why don't you do it? | ||
I'll find you a school. | ||
If you can find me... | ||
I will 100% find you a school. | ||
It's like, I don't want to find a bullshit guy who's like, I want to find... | ||
You're like, Jim, I'm telling you right now, this person's... | ||
No, no, no. | ||
I'll tell you where I live. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Don't worry. | ||
You already did. | ||
I'll find you a place. | ||
Here's the thing about jujitsu. | ||
There's very few bullshit schools. | ||
You can't survive. | ||
People know whether or not it's real because... | ||
Jiu-Jitsu is one of the only martial arts where everybody spars with everybody. | ||
So you really know what a guy can do or what they can't do. | ||
There's no questions. | ||
You know, you have good days and bad days, but the reality is you know if your stuff is good because you actually spar. | ||
You roll with people. | ||
You try to strangle each other. | ||
Right. | ||
And there's no room for fake Jiu-Jitsu in this world. | ||
There's a lot of fake martial arts. | ||
Right. | ||
There's a whole website. | ||
There's a whole Instagram page called McDojo. | ||
And McDojo is, was McDojo Life, right? | ||
McDojo Life is an Instagram page that's all dedicated to fake martial arts. | ||
And he's got fucking hundreds of videos of these people doing ridiculous shit that doesn't really work. | ||
Right. | ||
Because there's a lot of that out there, and they practice on each other, and the guy falls down and pretends to be hurt. | ||
But jiu-jitsu doesn't have that. | ||
Jiu-jitsu is... | ||
I mean, maybe there's a fake jiu-jitsu school out there somewhere, but I don't think so anymore. | ||
I think they've all been weeded out. | ||
Bro, when I first saw... | ||
What was it? | ||
The Gracie guys? | ||
Mm-hmm. | ||
They were fighting animals. | ||
Six foot nine... | ||
They were like... | ||
The minute they were on you... | ||
There's nothing you can do about it. | ||
Yeah, that's jiu-jitsu. | ||
If someone doesn't understand jiu-jitsu and they get in a fight with someone who does, they're fucked. | ||
You're fucked! | ||
Yeah, you're fucked. | ||
If a guy's good, he gets a clinch. | ||
People don't realize how vulnerable they really are unless they're in an encounter with a trained martial artist. | ||
Most people just think they're badasses. | ||
Right! | ||
You know, they just think, bro, I gotta fuck in my mentality. | ||
They all say that. | ||
You see my car? | ||
Every guy says, I'll fucking see red, dude. | ||
And then I don't give a fuck. | ||
I don't care about myself. | ||
I don't care about pain. | ||
You're a person. | ||
First of all, you're going to get tired really quick, stupid. | ||
Bro, I took, just for cardio reasons, I went to this kickboxing guy years ago, just for cardio. | ||
And what was cool about him, he's like, you want to, he goes, you actually hit me. | ||
He goes, and I kind of like it. | ||
He goes, would you want to come and spar one day? | ||
Like, you know, we want to hate you. | ||
I'm like, I fucking love that. | ||
Only if we can hate you. | ||
I don't want to do the fake shit. | ||
He goes, yeah, let's do it. | ||
Bro, I think 30 seconds, I was coughing up a lung... | ||
I couldn't breathe after 30 seconds. | ||
And I worked my way up to... | ||
To 30 seconds? | ||
45. But people don't realize... | ||
How exhausting it is. | ||
How exhausting. | ||
Even just a fet... | ||
There was times when he would hurt me, and then I'd just have to... | ||
Cover up. | ||
Cover up his... | ||
And even that is so exhausting! | ||
Yeah. | ||
And we're done, and I'm going... | ||
learning how to breathe like you got to learn how to breathe while you're punching learn how to breathe while you're getting punched right one of the things that Nick Diaz used to do to guys that would fuck them up was he would not even hit you that hard but he would hit you so many times you couldn't catch your breath oh because you were always like tense tense tense tense And then all of a sudden you're like, oh my god, I haven't breathed in like 40 seconds. | ||
You're just taking punches. | ||
I would love to do that. | ||
I'm ready, man. | ||
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I'm ready. | |
I'm going to do that and live in the jungle just for a month now. | ||
Because you're talking me out of a penis hole. | ||
Yeah, you don't want to get your dick in the river. | ||
Keep your dick out of the river. | ||
Very important. | ||
Make people laugh. | ||
Go in the jungle. | ||
Keep my dick out of the river. | ||
The river has fucking crocodiles. | ||
That's what you really have to worry about. | ||
Those motherfuckers have been around. | ||
Ever. | ||
They were around when the dinosaurs were here. | ||
They are dinosaurs. | ||
Yeah, they are dinosaurs. | ||
If you want to know what it was like living 100 million years ago, go see a crocodile. | ||
That's what they are. | ||
I spent a lot of time in Florida. | ||
You ever see a crane? | ||
Yeah. | ||
They look like pterodactyls. | ||
How about all the fucking alligators in Florida? | ||
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Bro. | |
Dude, they're everywhere. | ||
Everywhere. | ||
One of my favorite stories from Florida was this guy was in a car chase with the cops. | ||
He abandons his car on a bridge, jumps off the bridge into the water, and he's immediately killed by alligators. | ||
Literally landed on a fucking alligator, just like... | ||
And they don't give a shit. | ||
They don't give a fuck. | ||
They have a tiny brain, size of a walnut. | ||
They just float around killing shit, eating things, eating a lot of people's dogs. | ||
I thought that was like a real man show, too. | ||
Those animals that would go in... | ||
Swamp people? | ||
Yeah! | ||
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Oof. | |
They jump in. | ||
They say, oh, get me an alligator. | ||
And they jump in the water with the alligator. | ||
Bro, that's the guys you want going to war with. | ||
Those guys kill so many alligators. | ||
That was the thing that was shocking to me, is how many alligators there are. | ||
When I lived in Florida, I lived in Gainesville when I was a kid. | ||
You lived in Gainesville? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
From age 11 to 13, I lived in Gainesville. | ||
Wow. | ||
And when we were there, they were endangered. | ||
Alligators were endangered. | ||
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Really? | |
Yeah, they had killed so many alligators previous to that. | ||
Like, his alligator shoes were the shit. | ||
That was the thing. | ||
Like, dudes want to be shit, they would wear a pair of gaiters. | ||
I remember at the pool hall, like, that was the thing that, like, the old-timey guys would talk about. | ||
I got dressed up, I had my gaiters on. | ||
Like, gaiters was like, if you had a nice pair of alligator shoes, like, look at Mike. | ||
Mike's got a pair of gaiters on. | ||
Look at that. | ||
The leather pants and tiger. | ||
Yeah, it was very similar. | ||
But they were endangered. | ||
You couldn't hunt them. | ||
Now there's so many of them, they have to kill them. | ||
So those swamp people that show... | ||
One of the guys who was a professional alligator hunter, he had a tag for 500 alligators. | ||
He could shoot 500 alligators. | ||
So they had a warehouse stacked up with alligator carcasses. | ||
Think of that. | ||
This is nuts. | ||
That's nuts. | ||
That's nuts. | ||
And they weren't even putting a dent in those fucking things. | ||
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Right. | |
There's so many of them. | ||
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Right. | |
I've been eyeing this place in Florida. | ||
Oh, yeah? | ||
Yes. | ||
Eyeing it like this? | ||
Just like that. | ||
You circling? | ||
Yeah, let me put this area. | ||
So you want to move to Florida? | ||
Is that what you're saying? | ||
I would like to, yeah. | ||
Really? | ||
What part? | ||
Naples area. | ||
And I'll tell you, I love Captiva. | ||
What is that? | ||
What's Captiva? | ||
Southwest. | ||
Oh, it's a place. | ||
I thought it was a natural sweetener. | ||
No. | ||
Captiva Island. | ||
Captiva, Sanibel. | ||
I love Southwest Florida. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
I don't like the hoopla on the east side. | ||
The east side's the hoopla? | ||
Yeah. | ||
What's the east side? | ||
Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
It's too northeast for me. | ||
Right. | ||
The more I, you know, I grew up in New York, Manhattan, the more, like the minute I went to Jersey, I got a couple acres. | ||
I'm back in the neighborhood. | ||
Chirp, chirp, chirp. | ||
Yes! | ||
Dude, the first time I went out there... | ||
You ever hear a fox call in the middle of the night? | ||
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No. | |
What's it sound like? | ||
It's like... | ||
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I thought... | |
I swear to God... | ||
I thought a child was being... | ||
Tortured. | ||
Tortured. | ||
And I got on the phone with the police. | ||
I swear to God. | ||
They're like, did you just move around here, buddy? | ||
Yeah, and within, but what threw me off was, within a minute, I'm like, wait a minute, how'd they drag that kid from there to like 100 yards in three seconds? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Maybe it's not a... | ||
Maybe it's not a... | ||
That's Screech Owls? | ||
Oh! | ||
Yeah, they're wild. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Screech... | ||
So anyway. | ||
I don't even know what the hell I was talking about. | ||
Wait, you got something, Jamie? | ||
I don't hear shit. | ||
No, me either. | ||
It is. | ||
There it is. | ||
Whoa. | ||
Can you imagine 3 in the morning? | ||
Let me hear that. | ||
3 in the morning. | ||
Whoa. | ||
That sounds like a werewolf. | ||
That's like American Werewolf in London. | ||
And... | ||
In my woods, everything echoes. | ||
That's a crazy sound! | ||
The call is usually ignored unless answered by the fox's mate. | ||
I will never forget hearing that. | ||
That sounds like a kid screaming. | ||
I thought it was a kid screaming! | ||
Look at their teeth! | ||
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They're fucking weird. | |
Wow. | ||
That's the sound they make when they're fighting. | ||
Look at their fucking teeth. | ||
Look how long their mouths are. | ||
They're so cute. | ||
They're my favorite little animals. | ||
There's a fox that lives near my house. | ||
They're so cute. | ||
They're all over near my house. | ||
They're very playful, too. | ||
They'll fuck around with people. | ||
Did you ever see the movie Grizzly Man? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Yeah. | ||
Remember that wild fox became his buddy? | ||
Yes. | ||
That was very cool. | ||
Yeah, it was like he had a real relationship with that fox. | ||
The fox was playful with him. | ||
The ending really annoyed me. | ||
Why did it annoy you? | ||
Because I was like, the sick part of me, I wanted to see it. | ||
I wanted to hear it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm like, come on. | ||
Yeah, they apparently deleted the sound. | ||
Werner Herzog deleted the recording. | ||
Had the lady delete the recording because they were worried that it was going to get on the internet. | ||
And then someone faked it. | ||
There's like a fake recording on the internet. | ||
Someone said there's fake, and that's what bothered me too. | ||
Yeah, it's fake. | ||
He clearly, in my opinion, was a mushroom tripper. | ||
Because that scene, when after the bear shits, and he's like, this was justice came out of her butt. | ||
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Right. | |
Yeah. | ||
This was inside her. | ||
Oh, Coco. | ||
And now it's here. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
He's crying for our life. | ||
It's still warm. | ||
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Like, what happened to this kid behind his shed when he was like eight years old? | |
Something happened. | ||
He was very unhealthy. | ||
Something happened. | ||
That guy wanted to die. | ||
I think so. | ||
I think that was suicide by bear. | ||
Because he knew enough about bears to know that you're not supposed to go there. | ||
He was staying there when the bears were supposed to be in hibernation, which is when the most dangerous bears are out. | ||
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They're starving. | |
Because they're starving. | ||
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Yeah. | |
They're starving. | ||
And he was around these bears while they were starving. | ||
And he was within fucking 30 yards of them, talking to them. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I think, you know, sometimes people think now they're... | ||
Listen, I've had experiences where I think now the animal and I are connecting. | ||
And so, he may have thought, like, our souls definitely connect. | ||
And we are... | ||
Yeah, but that shit is in your head, man. | ||
You can connect with a little fox. | ||
You can connect with that little fox, and that's probably why he was so confused, because he did connect with that little fox. | ||
Think of dudes with lions and all that. | ||
I almost got myself killed. | ||
I was in Corpus Christi years ago. | ||
I just ran into this guy again years ago. | ||
Me and my wife go there. | ||
He comes to the show. | ||
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He's like, I raise big cats. | |
We got fuckers missing fingers and teeth. | ||
And everyone's like, no, people sleep over at his house. | ||
It's a big thing. | ||
Was it Tiger King? | ||
Did you meet Tiger King? | ||
No. | ||
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Are you sure? | |
I never watched that show. | ||
What? | ||
No. | ||
I don't watch TV, man. | ||
I watch TV, movies, none of that. | ||
Why did you not watch Tiger King, though? | ||
There's no appeal for me. | ||
Just hearing the way people talk, it's like... | ||
It's amazing. | ||
I thought it was a great distraction when COVID came out. | ||
It was. | ||
But to me, I thought it was well-planned. | ||
I watched it again recently. | ||
I haven't watched it. | ||
I forgot how amazing it was. | ||
I'm sure it was. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
I'm sure it is. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
I'm sure it is. | ||
I'm trying to talk you into it. | ||
It's like Grizzly Man, but six hours long. | ||
I'm sure it's the greatest. | ||
Jamie, tell him. | ||
Pretty good. | ||
You're a communist. | ||
Fuck is pretty good. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Everything's amazing. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
All those people that have those cats are all out of their fucking minds. | ||
But that's what I'm saying. | ||
You reach a point where, no, the cat loves me. | ||
You see videos where the guy goes and the lion comes and he hugs him. | ||
He's in a while. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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I... That guy's crazy. | |
They're not wise. | ||
It's not a wise thing. | ||
I think that's what happened to the grizzly guy. | ||
He went, no, he really loved me. | ||
No, that's a different situation. | ||
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You think? | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Because I think that guy, first of all, I think he was a societal outcast. | ||
I think he got some weird sort of power and satisfaction by pretending that he's out there protecting those animals. | ||
Because that's one of the things that he would say. | ||
He's like, I'm out here protecting them. | ||
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Where's the government? | |
Where are you, park rangers? | ||
You motherfuckers! | ||
Remember when he goes on that crazy rant? | ||
Yes. | ||
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And if it weren't for me, Sally and Sherry and Coco would all be dead. | |
Yeah, but meanwhile, these animals are ruthless. | ||
They kill each other. | ||
That was the other thing that he found. | ||
He found they were eating cubs, and he still stuck around. | ||
Remember? | ||
He found a paw of one of them. | ||
That's right. | ||
Yeah, they'll eat cubs. | ||
The males, in particular, will eat their own cubs. | ||
Those cubs had their, right? | ||
Those bears had their own little picnic. | ||
They don't give a fuck, man. | ||
There was a thing that Werner Herzog said, that he saw something that I didn't see. | ||
I look in their eyes, I see indifference and ruthless nature. | ||
Like what you said. | ||
Yeah, that's what they are. | ||
You make the eyes. | ||
Do the eyes. | ||
Like this. | ||
Ha! | ||
They're killing machines. | ||
I mean, they're beautiful and amazing and I'm glad they're alive. | ||
I'm glad they're a thing. | ||
I don't want grizzly bears to go extinct. | ||
People want to pretend that they live in some fucking Lion King movie. | ||
Nature is just things eating things. | ||
That's it. | ||
Remember the fox that he was in love with? | ||
Remember it got torn apart by wolves? | ||
That's right. | ||
Animals. | ||
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We're the only... | |
I don't know what we are, but until we showed up, everything just ate one another. | ||
And then we showed up, and I don't know, we got eaten, or we ate. | ||
We got eaten, for sure. | ||
We got eaten until we didn't. | ||
People still get eaten. | ||
Africa, India. | ||
I never understood, like, what are we? | ||
A friend of mine is a professional hunter, and his name's Jim Shockey, and he got hired to go to, I want to say it's Tanzania? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Maybe Tanzania or Zimbabwe. | ||
I forget which river system it was at. | ||
And they had man-eating crocodiles there, and they needed him to help. | ||
And he said everyone in the town was missing a hand, people were like chunks taken out of their legs, because there were so many crocodiles. | ||
And while he was there, one of the women in the village got taken by a crocodile and dragged into the river. | ||
And so he hunted them and killed them for these people. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's wild shit, dude. | ||
It is wild. | ||
That's the real world. | ||
We just created shelters and cities, and it protects us from those things. | ||
But then once we're protected, then we start getting delusional and think that somehow or another we're separate from the food chain. | ||
But we're not. | ||
We're not. | ||
We're just aware. | ||
We're aware of things. | ||
We could take in variables, and we have emotions that other animals just don't possess. | ||
Weird emotions, you know? | ||
I think about that too, but I'm not sure. | ||
Maybe they do have emotions and we're unaware of them. | ||
Animals have emotions for sure, but domestic animals are the ones that have the most tangible emotions. | ||
Like, my dog is very emotional. | ||
He's emotional with me, gets so happy when he sees me, whines and whimpers and kisses me. | ||
He's a love machine. | ||
He's all filled with love. | ||
But he's also very protected. | ||
He's super loved. | ||
He has food every day. | ||
He's been with me since he was a little baby. | ||
And so he's always been in this loving environment with my daughters and everyone. | ||
All the people that come over my house love him. | ||
Everybody loves him, right? | ||
So, of course, he's like that. | ||
But if you're around feral dogs, feral dogs are dangerous. | ||
Mm-hmm. | ||
Because no one's taking care of them. | ||
So they're dangerous. | ||
Just like dangerous people. | ||
People. | ||
People that have been abused. | ||
People that have been abused. | ||
People that have had to grow up in horrible crime-ridden environments. | ||
They're dangerous. | ||
And it's amazing if you change the environment, it all changes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It all changes. | ||
I know that by fact. | ||
But dangerous people, programming is really difficult to shake. | ||
Like, if you grow up dangerous, it's very hard for dangerous people to become non-dangerous. | ||
Especially if they've been through the prison system, then it's even more difficult, right? | ||
I have experience of... | ||
People from the prison experience. | ||
Not dangerous people. | ||
But they ended up there. | ||
And it really was because of their environment... | ||
And then when they got out, I was like, okay, do we... | ||
Is there still a good soul here? | ||
Right. | ||
Is this fixable? | ||
Are they far worse than they were before they went? | ||
Are they far worse? | ||
And I tell you, it worked out for the better, thank God, but... | ||
I knew a dude who worked out the worst way possible. | ||
He went away when we were kids. | ||
I used to do martial arts with him when I was like 15, 16. And then he went away. | ||
He was a little older than me. | ||
He went away and came out when I was like 20. 20 or 21. And he was, first of all, he was jacked. | ||
He came out jacked and just hard and mean. | ||
He went in for selling drugs. | ||
He went away for a couple years. | ||
And came out and just was a fucking hardened criminal. | ||
And then got arrested while I knew him. | ||
He said he didn't do it, but there was a crime that somehow or another he was connected to. | ||
He was either connected to the crime or he knew someone who was connected to a crime of a guy who was beaten to death with a hammer. | ||
And the guy was chopped up. | ||
They cut his hands off. | ||
All of his bones were broken. | ||
And apparently they had kept him alive and conscious by injecting him with cocaine while they were torturing him. | ||
So they were torturing this guy and then injecting him with cocaine when he would black out from the pain. | ||
Dude. | ||
Heavy. | ||
Heavy. | ||
Heavy shit. | ||
That's a grudge. | ||
Yeah. | ||
This guy that I knew, he's dead now. | ||
But this guy that I knew, he got arrested for that while I knew him. | ||
And I was like, wow. | ||
Yeah, that's a grudge. | ||
That's a hard grudge. | ||
And I don't think he was... | ||
I don't think they booked him for it. | ||
I think they brought him in for questioning. | ||
I don't remember exactly, but I remember like, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
You had something to do with that? | ||
And he's like, no, no, I didn't have nothing to do with that. | ||
I'm like, okay. | ||
But you never know. | ||
Guess who they didn't arrest? | ||
Me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Guess who definitely didn't have something to do with it? | ||
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Me. | |
Yeah, but he came out way dangerous. | ||
And he was one of my sparring partners. | ||
And when we spar, it was a fight. | ||
There was no sparring. | ||
It was a fight to the death. | ||
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Wow. | |
He was crazy. | ||
Wow. | ||
He would just come at you. | ||
Yeah, my scenario didn't turn out like that. | ||
It came out really good. | ||
Took a while. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Took a long while. | ||
But it turned out really good. | ||
Look, some guys, they realize when they're in jail, they never want to be in there again. | ||
They realize because it's so horrible, they never want to be in there again. | ||
But the thing is, how do you get someone who's on the wrong road or a bad person? | ||
What does jail do to them to make them a good person? | ||
Not a lot. | ||
There's not a lot of emphasis in that. | ||
Nope. | ||
And again, a lot of times, it's the environment you grew up in. | ||
Okay. | ||
When is your gig? | ||
Do you have a gig tonight? | ||
Yeah, I got a gig tonight. | ||
Where at? | ||
In two minutes. | ||
It's four o'clock already. | ||
Where's your gig? | ||
Yeah, we did three hours, bro. | ||
Damn. | ||
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I know. | |
Time flies in here. | ||
Where are you at tonight? | ||
You don't even know. | ||
You still don't know. | ||
The Nutty Brown. | ||
The Nutty Brown. | ||
Okay. | ||
What time's your show? | ||
Six. | ||
Oh, Jesus. | ||
Let's wrap this up. | ||
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We gotta eat. | |
Six o'clock. | ||
Jim Brewer, you're the fucking man. | ||
I love you. | ||
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Hey, man. | |
It's always great to see you, my friend. | ||
I love seeing you, too. | ||
So awesome. | ||
So excited for you. | ||
I'm happy you're doing well. | ||
Doing good. | ||
I'm happy you're happy. | ||
Torn. | ||
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Life is beautiful. | |
It's always great to see you, man. | ||
You, too. | ||
Tell people your Instagram, social media. | ||
JimBrewer.com. | ||
There you go. | ||
The Facebook and Instagram. | ||
It's all connected. | ||
All connected. | ||
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Okay. | |
I love you, buddy. | ||
I love you too, bro. | ||
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All right. |