Jan. 29, 2021 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:51:13
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The Joe Rogan Experience. | |
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Are we up? | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Just tell me about that watch. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| This is a Hoyer from 1950. 1950. Yeah, so before Tog bought Hoyer. | ||
| Is it Tag or is it Tog? | ||
| It depends. | ||
| My dad always told me Tog. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Might be Tag though. | ||
| Well, it's spelled T-A-G. It could be Tog. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tag, Tog. | ||
| But before they collabed with them or went into business with them, it was just Hoyer. | ||
| So this is a 1950 Hoyer. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| That's pretty cool. | ||
| That's an old fucking watch. | ||
| Super old, man. | ||
| That's kind of cool. | ||
| That's definitely haunted. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's something cool about that, right? | ||
| Having something that's that old. | ||
| Oh, and no one else, you know, you're not going to see a lot of it. | ||
| I like shit... | ||
| No way on us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kind of like cars. | ||
| You know the same with cars. | ||
| Do you have to wind it every morning? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Is it one of those? | ||
| It's annoying, but it's worth it. | ||
| What do you got there? | ||
| Is that Omega? | ||
| No, it's a Grand Seiko. | ||
| This is a winder, too. | ||
| You have to wind this thing, too. | ||
| It's got a spring drive. | ||
| It shows you on here when it's winding up. | ||
| Yeah, I appreciate it. | ||
| Yeah, you know Matt Farah from The Smoking Tire? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He turned me on to Grand Seikos. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, it's such a beautiful design. | ||
| Their whole company, like the way they design watches. | ||
| So they call it Zeratsu. | ||
| This is like hand-polished finish they do. | ||
| They take it to like the ultimate detail level. | ||
| If you get two into watches, it's gonna get expensive. | ||
| Yeah, well... | ||
| Didn't you give your boy Lex Friedman a watch? | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| I gave my favorite watch. | ||
| I would give you this one, but my wife gave me this from 1950. I just can't do that, dude. | ||
| Don't give me that watch. | ||
| Just buy the company. | ||
| Just buy the company. | ||
|
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Just buy the company! | |
| Well, Lex had this bullshit watch that he bought from Amazon.com for like 20 bucks. | ||
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Dude, what are you doing? | |
| It's giant like a Frisbee. | ||
| It looked goofy in his nice suit and everything. | ||
| He dressed so nice. | ||
| And I was like, you need a real watch. | ||
| And I was a little drunk. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to give him my watch. | ||
| It's my favorite watch, too. | ||
| Because it has a moon on it. | ||
| Was it Omega? | ||
| Yeah, it's an Omega Speedmaster Moonface watch. | ||
| I love Omegas. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| And the moon phase watch has a high resolution, a tiny high resolution image of the moon. | ||
| And it shows you the exact position of the moon in the sky. | ||
| So like when the moon is like at half moon, it shows it on the watch. | ||
| When it's at full moon, it shows it on the watch. | ||
| But like when you see, see if you can get an image of that. | ||
| Does he know watches? | ||
| Was he stoked? | ||
| Or was he like, I don't know how much he knows about watches. | ||
| Probably went home and looked it up. | ||
| But it was legitimately my favorite watch. | ||
| Just because of the moon phase aspect of it. | ||
| Plus it's just, Omega's a classic company. | ||
| It's not too showy. | ||
| Like Rolex is very showy. | ||
| Like if you have a Rolex, it's like you want to let everybody know. | ||
| But they're great watches. | ||
| Nothing wrong with it. | ||
| Some would say the best. | ||
| But it's like it's become too almost pop culture. | ||
| I have a Submariner from 1991. That's the black band version of it, but it's very similar, the one that I have, the steel band. | ||
| So see that image of the moon? | ||
| I mean, it's like a perfect image, like high-resolution image of the moon, just very tiny. | ||
| What color band was yours? | ||
| Metal? | ||
| Mine was steel. | ||
| It's all steel, yeah. | ||
| So it's basically the same watch, just with a steel. | ||
| That was the watch. | ||
| That's it right there. | ||
| Didn't Russell Peters give you a watch? | ||
| He did. | ||
| A Breitling, right? | ||
| Yeah, a Breitling, and I wear that watch every time I do a special. | ||
| Oh, that's cool, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To paint it forward. | ||
| From 2014, I did my 2014, 2016, and 2018 specials. | ||
| I'm all wearing the Russell Peters watch. | ||
| That's so cool, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you been getting up much around here? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've been doing, well, obviously I was doing those shows with Dave until he got the coosies. | ||
| And what was that? | ||
| It was shows here? | ||
| Stubbs Amphitheater. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Stubbs has a 400 seat amphitheater. | ||
| And so we tested the entire crowd. | ||
| And then someone in Dave's circle, not related to the show, got COVID and was hanging around with Dave. | ||
| Got Dave sick. | ||
| Got three or four other people sick. | ||
| Radio Raheem got sick. | ||
| The photographer's son got sick. | ||
| I don't know if the photographer got sick. | ||
| A lot of guys got sick. | ||
| Did you and Elon get it? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, Elon already had it. | ||
| Okay, he has an antibody. | ||
| Elon had it in the past, and a lot of people were saying that his girlfriend Grimes gave it to Dave. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| No. | ||
| It was another guy that gave it to Dave. | ||
| His girlfriend Grimes had gotten over it already long before, like several days before she got to the show. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe you have the blood type, or you're just built different, where you're not the guy who's going to get COVID. I don't know, man, but I was at a show. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I was at a show with several people that wound up getting COVID. Because I went to this show, and I didn't expect that it was going to be so COVID-y. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| People don't give a fuck. | ||
| They just go out. | ||
| You should see Florida. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| Dude, I did a show for New Year's Eve. | ||
| I walked out, and everyone's together. | ||
| And I come out, and I'm like, do you guys not get the news? | ||
| Listen, I'm pretty loosey-goosey, but this is ridiculous. | ||
| And I see a guy making out with two chicks in the front. | ||
| I go, hey, hold on, stop. | ||
| Do you know each other? | ||
| They're like, no. | ||
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I'm like... | |
| What the fuck you doing, man? | ||
| What about COVID? They're not worried about it. | ||
| No, they don't care, man. | ||
| Do you know about quercetin and zinc and all those different nutrients? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For people that didn't listen to the Mark Gordon podcast, I'd recommend you listen to it because there's actual peer-reviewed studies on quercetin, which is something called an ionophore. | ||
| Which gets ions into the cells, and then you take that with zinc as a much higher absorption rate of zinc. | ||
| And according to Dr. Gordon, it essentially stops viruses dead in its tracks when you take this on a regular basis. | ||
| Even COVID. Yeah, and I have not wavered even a little on my vitamins. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| I got COVID, right? | ||
| I was like the canary in the coal mine for comics. | ||
| Yeah, you were there early. | ||
| I was the first one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seems to me like kind of everybody's going to get it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At this point in time. | ||
| Be cool, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Be cool. | ||
| Everybody's going to get it. | ||
| Be cool. | ||
| Well, the people, it's like, when you get it, they're like, I want to yell at you for being irresponsible and for killing my grandma. | ||
| Kevin Hart's so much smarter than me because he got it and then announced six months later, like, hey, I did have it a few months ago. | ||
| And I was like, all right, not a big deal. | ||
| Yeah, you were like, while you had it, you announced it. | ||
| The day I got it, hey, got COVID. I have a friend who got it and doesn't want... | ||
| Joey lit you up? | ||
| Oh, lit me up. | ||
| Well, Joey was lighting me up for going and doing that show in Houston. | ||
| Joe Rogan, why are you going to Houston? | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| You want to catch that shit? | ||
| Want to catch that shit? | ||
| Give it to your fucking friends. | ||
| Joey, come on. | ||
| Well, he's worried about getting it, you know? | ||
| And he should be. | ||
| With his health and his stature, he should be. | ||
| You know, because I have a family friend, my mother-in-law's best friend, their son got it. | ||
| He's 22. You know, out of shape, but he passed away from it. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Yeah, he's 22. 22? | ||
| So there's like those outliers that you get. | ||
| How out of shape is he? | ||
| Not like obese, probably 5'10", 280, 290. That's not obese? | ||
| I mean, that's obese. | ||
| But I'm saying he's not on TLC 600-pound live or nothing. | ||
| That's morbidly obese, though. | ||
| He's 100 pounds overweight. | ||
| Yeah, he's heavy. | ||
| Fuck, though. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| 22. It's going to be heartbreaking, too. | ||
| That's what's such a bummer, man. | ||
| It's like, we have such a problem with obesity in this country and poor diet, and that is the number one comorbidity factor, apparently, for COVID deaths, is being overweight. | ||
| It should be a wake-up call. | ||
| Get in shape. | ||
| Jesus Christ, it should be, but, you know, I've had overweight people on the podcast. | ||
| I'm like, you doing anything about it? | ||
| I can't wait for the vaccine. | ||
| Like, what about now? | ||
| What about now? | ||
| I went to Tim Dillon. | ||
| I go to someone's house to pick him up because he's co-hosting King of Sting with me. | ||
| I go to pick him up because he lives pretty close to me. | ||
| He goes, come in, check out the new pad, man. | ||
| We go into this room and there's workout equipment. | ||
| He goes, so here's my elliptical that I steer at every morning. | ||
| There's my treadmill that I like to take pictures of. | ||
| I'm like, you don't use him? | ||
| He's like, nah, I just, I don't know, man. | ||
| I got him here, though. | ||
| He needs a trainer. | ||
| That's what he needs. | ||
| You know, he contacted me after Ralphie May died and after someone else died. | ||
| Someone else died. | ||
| I forget who it was. | ||
| Like a bigger person? | ||
| Another comic died. | ||
| And he was like, you know what? | ||
| I gotta do something. | ||
| I gotta do something. | ||
| He was scared about it. | ||
| Like, he did King of Sting. | ||
| He was like, how many people are in the room? | ||
| I was like, we have Chappelle, Kat, Chin, and Nick, and Theo. | ||
| He's like, alright. | ||
| And was like, you gotta get rid of these people. | ||
| But they've had it, dude. | ||
| They have antibodies. | ||
| He's like, I don't care. | ||
| I don't want all those people in there. | ||
| Why don't you guys just test? | ||
| You don't test people? | ||
| Yeah, we do. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah, we test all the time. | ||
| And, you know, with Showtime, my shows at Showtime, they test like a month. | ||
| I get tested all the fucking time. | ||
| So why don't you just test before the shows and then he doesn't have to worry about it? | ||
| Well, he doesn't have to worry about it because all those people already had it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everyone in there has had it. | ||
| And he's still... | ||
| Yeah, but whatever made him feel comfortable. | ||
| You know, I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Well, I'd hate for Tim to get sick and die. | ||
| Oh, we gotta protect him at all costs. | ||
| At all costs. | ||
| I love fucking Tim Dillon. | ||
| The new video of him as the new health secretary, the transgender lady from Pennsylvania. | ||
| He's so funny. | ||
| And his whole dispute with Airbnb. | ||
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Yes. | |
| He's banned from the app. | ||
| I told him, like, dude, I don't know if I'd make, like, threats to the many of us. | ||
| Stuff happens, Brendan. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Because people die all the time. | ||
| Stuff happens. | ||
| He does not give a fuck. | ||
| Play that. | ||
| Please play that. | ||
| My name is Rachel Levine. | ||
| I'm the Biden administration's new secretary of COVID. And many young people aren't wearing their masks because they don't think it's lit. | ||
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But I'm telling you right now, you can turn up and have a great party even with your masks on. | |
| And I'm no stranger to partying. | ||
| I love jellies and buttons and... | ||
| Black Beauties, Abyssinian Tea, Candy, Tranks, Circles, Erasers, Wolfies, Jellies, Moggies, Valleys, Eggs, School Bus, I Love a Little Aunt Nora, French Fries, Liquid X, Blind Squid, Cat Valium, Green Jet, Special K, Super Acid, African Salad, Herbal Speedball, Electric Kool-Aid, Sugar Cube, Purple Haze, Yellow Sunshine, Big Chief, Caps, Caps, Cow Patties, Fungus, Tweezies, Yellow Fever, Velvet, Skittles, Triple C, Magic Mint, and Bath Salt. | ||
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So listen, kids, your new health secretary isn't an old fuddy-duddy. | |
| I like robo-tripping as good as the next person, okay? | ||
| The safest thing you could do is wear your mask, get vaccinated, and then let's fucking get this party started right. | ||
| Also, after a short battle with COVID-19, the president of the United States, Joe Biden, has passed away. | ||
| He's so stupid. | ||
| He's so stupid. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| He's such a ridiculous person. | ||
| He's a gem. | ||
| He is a rare person, right? | ||
| And he's so prolific. | ||
| He works so hard. | ||
| Anytime something is happening, he's got a video out. | ||
| He's on it. | ||
| Really quickly. | ||
| He has a setup out of his house. | ||
| It's a good studio. | ||
| He gets it, man. | ||
| And his ability to just rant. | ||
| His podcast is essentially him and his producer, and he's just ranting about things. | ||
| Ranting while his producer laughs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got a one-person audience. | ||
| Tim's one of the guys on King of the Sting. | ||
| It's me and Theo busting balls and making fun of the video submissions. | ||
| With Tim, it was like, just bring up something, and then me and Theo just backed up and let him go. | ||
| I had him on with Alex Jones. | ||
| It was glorious. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| It was glorious. | ||
| Because first of all, Tim is a fucking conspiracy nut. | ||
| Not that he believes in these things, but he's read a bunch of them. | ||
| Yeah, he likes it. | ||
| He's curious about what... | ||
| So he knew a lot of shit, and him and Alex Jones going back and forth together was hilarious. | ||
| Characters, man. | ||
| Dude, this is the first whiskey that I've had in a long time. | ||
| I took all of January off. | ||
| Anyone defending Institutional Wall Street right now got an envelope with photos of themselves at Jeffrey Epstein's birthday. | ||
| So what Jamie's just pulled up with that and what Tim was talking about is this insane situation that's happening. | ||
| It started out with GameStop with these intelligent vipers from Reddit. | ||
| Decided they were going to figure out... | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Wall Street speculation and these people that have been, these hedge fund guys, they've been manipulating the stock market in a very similar way forever. | ||
| But these guys on Reddit decided to get together collectively. | ||
| And what is it called, the subreddit? | ||
| It's called WallStreetBets. | ||
| So WallStreetBets decided that... | ||
| These hedge funds were shorting GameStop, right? | ||
| So they decided, we're going to buy GameStop. | ||
| We're going to fuck their whole system up. | ||
| Just to boost GameStop stock. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, just to see if they could. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| So a bunch of people bought GameStop stock. | ||
| GameStop stock rose higher than it's ever risen in the entire history of the company. | ||
| I think it was up 11,000%. | ||
| Is that the case? | ||
| The actual percentage, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I might have made that number up. | ||
| It sounded good, though, didn't it? | ||
| It had never been higher than $50, $60, and it shot up to $300 to $400 at some point yesterday. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| That's a crazy jump for no reason. | ||
| And it was all because of these guys. | ||
| So... | ||
| This is where it gets complicated because now regulars... | ||
| Do me a favor and go to Sagar, his Instagram page, because he gave me permission to play this today because he talks about how this is really exposing the actual corruption in the stock market and real market manipulation because they're trying to do something about the fact that these Wall Street guys are getting fucked over and hedge funds have lost billions of dollars because... | ||
| But the thing is that now that these guys... | ||
| Yeah, let's play it. | ||
| Let's play it real quick. | ||
| This is the one you sent me yesterday, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| The newer one? | ||
| Yes, the one from today. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know they had a newer one. | ||
| Let me... | ||
| I'll send it to... | ||
| This one regulate and reform? | ||
| Perhaps... | ||
| Let's see. | ||
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All right, Sagar, what's on your radar? | |
| Well, I have a confession to make. | ||
| This is the first story that's excited me in a long time, covering the pandemic and Trump and Stop the Steal and Capitol riots and the Biden presidency. | ||
| It's been a real bummer. | ||
| And I have not felt a pep in my step like this in many months. | ||
| And it is now thanks to a bunch of Redditors going after the people I despise the most in our society, speculators on Wall Street. | ||
| By now, I'm sure that you're all familiar with the story. | ||
| Hedge funds and billionaires took out a massive short position on the company called GameStock. | ||
| A band of Redditors on a subreddit called WallStreetBets called their bluff, drove the stock up to the tune of thousands of percentile more to force those hedge funds to liquidate billions of dollars in losses, while the merry band of Redditors gets rich. | ||
| It's the ultimate David and Goliath story. | ||
| Underemployed and unemployed sitting at home in their pajamas using the power of the internet and new trading platforms like Robinhood to destroy the kings of American finance. | ||
| We are never going to go back to the old ways of doing business. | ||
| And Wall Street knows this. | ||
| So what's their solution? | ||
| It's one that we, my friends, must resist absolutely at all costs. | ||
| Now they know that they do not have a monopoly on manipulating the market, they are going to do everything in their power to go after you and people like me who are not on the side of the billionaire elite. | ||
| As I laid out yesterday, they are already going into overdrive on CNBC, who started off yesterday by inviting the literal CEO of the NASDAQ on to call for more regulation. | ||
| Let's take a listen to that again. | ||
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One of the things that we're talking about is maybe misinformation and pump and dumps, and it's occurring on social media again. | |
| I'm wondering whether it's part of the same problem, the type of regulation that we finally need to consider. | ||
| And like I said, we should always have a light touch with regulation. | ||
| You're seeing the way things can get started again. | ||
| This is different. | ||
| Maybe it's Reddit. | ||
| Maybe it's not Facebook. | ||
| But you're seeing the same situation. | ||
| He's flustered. | ||
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At this point, it's not about an election. | |
| It's not about an insurrection. | ||
| Pause for a second. | ||
| He's also calling for regulation. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They never... | ||
| Call for regulation. | ||
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Never. | |
| He's super flustered. | ||
| Assholes like him, the last thing that guy wants in terms of being able to manipulate the market and make as much money as possible is fucking regulation. | ||
| So him calling for regulation is kind of hilarious. | ||
| And him saying that they're manipulating it with social media, this is literally what they do. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
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There are interesting things happening that seem to be spawned to some extent, or at least blown out of proportion by social media again, Adina. | |
| Well, I do think, though, that as we look at these new technologies that are there available to everyone, including investors, I think it's also important for regulators to understand that manipulation is manipulation, whether it's happening through a new technology medium or it's happening through traditional mail. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think it's just a matter of making sure that we understand what the behavior is, what's underpinning the behavior, and working appropriately with the regulators to manage the situation. | ||
| She looks like a female version of the blind scientist from Contact with Jodie Foster. | ||
| Tell me she doesn't. | ||
| Pull up an image of that guy. | ||
| He's a famous actor. | ||
| All these people on this clip have issues. | ||
| He has Richard Ramirez teeth. | ||
| It's a nightmare. | ||
| Contact with Jodie Foster. | ||
| Go to images. | ||
| The guy in the far right, yeah. | ||
| Oh, a little bit. | ||
| Come on, give me that picture. | ||
| Yeah, I'll give you that. | ||
| Come on, right there? | ||
| Now go back to her. | ||
| No, they look pretty fucking similar. | ||
| Yeah, good call though. | ||
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Good reference. | |
| Almost identical. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| It's the cheekbones and the mouth. | ||
| Are you sure that's not him or her? | ||
| I don't mean to dead name or misgender. | ||
| Okay, keep playing it. | ||
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Working appropriately with the regulators to manage the situation. | |
| Yeah, you heard that correctly. | ||
| The guy from CNBC, who hates regulation, is now calling for more regulation. | ||
| And the CEO of the head of one of the largest trading exchanges in the world is agreeing with him. | ||
| Notice, when hedge funds manipulate markets, when they screw over regular people in different companies, when Wall Street requires billions of dollars in bailouts and floats from the Federal Reserve, there isn't any call for more regulation. | ||
| But a couple of average Joes on the internet make money at the expense of a billionaire hedge fund. | ||
| Well, that just can't stand. | ||
| And I'm not exaggerating here, just showing you one clip. | ||
| The idea across the American elite right now is that what has happened with GameStop is unacceptable. | ||
| Don't believe me? | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Levitt Jr., he decided to weigh in. | ||
| And if you don't know who that is, it's the former SEC chairman who literally presided over the dot-com bubble and was appointed by Bill Clinton, who perhaps more than any president is responsible for much of the financialization of our economy beginning in his administration. | ||
| Levitt wrote an op-ed in Bloomberg calling for a full agency investigation into online stock trading platforms. | ||
| And said that social media is taking advantage of users' behavioral psychology and pushing them into dangerous territory. | ||
| Okay, maybe. | ||
| I don't even really disagree with that. | ||
| But doesn't it just tell you everything? | ||
| That this is what they want to investigate now? | ||
| That this is what they want the government to do something about now? | ||
| Now, don't underestimate how mainstream this view is. | ||
| Yesterday, the White House press secretary said Janet Yellen is, quote, monitoring the situation. | ||
| Elizabeth Warren tweeted out that we needed more regulation. | ||
| The state securities regulator for the state of Massachusetts said GameStop trading should be halted for 30 days. | ||
| And the SEC now says they're working with regulators to assess the situation, review the activities and other participants. | ||
| Like I said, hey, maybe that's justified, but you people are silent on the crimes of the actually influential people who rig our economy on a daily basis. | ||
| You want a near-perfect corollary? | ||
| Billionaire investor Bill Ackman. | ||
| He went on CNBC in March 2020 to give an emotional interview To say hell is coming and that hotel stocks would go to zero. | ||
| His interview sparked a panic sell on Wall Street. | ||
| It is seen in retrospect as one of the precipitating events of that drop. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| At the exact same time, right after that interview, Ackman was buying billions of dollars in the stock as it hit rock bottom. | ||
| In fact, he pocketed $2 billion in bets against the market as it was crashing. | ||
| Okay, let's pause. | ||
| Billionaires get a billionaire, man. | ||
| This fucking... | ||
| Can I have some water? | ||
| First of all, this is the great roach crisis of 2021 now. | ||
| Because another one's missing. | ||
| Who's cleaning this place? | ||
| The door's locked. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Someone took your roach? | ||
| There's no roach. | ||
| Never trust a man with a ponytail. | ||
| Oh, he's got an unlimited supply of weed. | ||
| They keep vanishing here. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Buffalo Trace. | ||
| Buffalo Trace is doing a promotion with Fight for the Forgotten to raise money. | ||
| Oh, sick. | ||
| And they're making me a whole barrel of whiskey. | ||
| And so I got to pick out the various... | ||
| Oh, we got a lot of them. | ||
| We got five bottles already. | ||
| Say less. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Grab a couple more of those bottles, fella. | ||
| But we got... | ||
| Dude, he was like, tell me which one you like. | ||
| And we drank all of them. | ||
| And I'm like, I don't... | ||
| All of them? | ||
| I don't notice the difference. | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You'd have to drink some fucking mouth cleaner in between to be able to tell the difference between... | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| I went through the same process. | ||
| I got my own whiskey dropping in March. | ||
| Oh, shameless plug. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you get all these samples, and I'm like, which one do you like? | ||
| And I'm like, they're all good, man. | ||
| You know who's got a fucking dope whiskey? | ||
| Josh Barnett. | ||
| I've heard. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| Is it good? | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| I think it's called Warbringer is the name of the company. | ||
| Warmaster is the... | ||
| Let's see if you can find it. | ||
| But it's a smoky... | ||
| Whiskey. | ||
| I really like it. | ||
| I'm not a big smokey guy, but I heard it's good. | ||
| I wish I had a bottle here. | ||
| I heard from you. | ||
| He sent me a bottle to my house. | ||
| It's excellent. | ||
| Great label, Josh. | ||
| Mesquite Smoked Southwest Bourbon Whiskey. | ||
| Label's half the battle now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's a different label than I got. | ||
| That one's fucking dope, Josh. | ||
| Mine was like a reddish label. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| It's very good, though. | ||
| That's what I got. | ||
| I got that one right there. | ||
| Oh, that's even better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's sick. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He's got two roosters fighting on it. | ||
| Warmaster Edition? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| How's he doing? | ||
| He's doing great. | ||
| That guy is so fucking smart. | ||
| He has to be one of the smartest fighters to ever enter the auction. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's so smart. | ||
| So well read. | ||
| You know, just an interesting take on things. | ||
| Does he do his own podcast? | ||
| I know we're always pushing people to do their own podcast, but that guy should fucking just rant in a microphone for a hot hour. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I think he was planning on it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Get on it, Josh. | ||
| Do you know, Jamie? | ||
| He still beat up small Asians in wrestling? | ||
| He does some pro wrestling. | ||
| Oh, you know who I saw at the airport? | ||
| Boss Rootin. | ||
| Yeah, you told me he's jacked. | ||
|
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Jacked! | |
| But is his arm okay now? | ||
| Because he had that one arm that was all fucked up from his neck injury. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He was just sitting down and I was like, what are you doing? | ||
| His neck was like fucking jacked. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And he was looking at, he's moving out of LA. He was coming here, Idaho, and I think he was looking to Nashville. | ||
| Everybody's moving out of LA. Except for your boy. | ||
| You're staying? | ||
| Well, I'm giving it a year. | ||
| A whole year? | ||
| Well... | ||
| How many guns you got? | ||
| A bunch. | ||
| You're gonna need them. | ||
| Yeah, AR-15, son. | ||
| I got them gnarly guns. | ||
| Before Biden comes to take it away. | ||
| All you need is a double-barrel shotgun. | ||
| I told my wife, Jill. | ||
| You go out. | ||
|
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If someone's outside, you shoot one off into the air. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| No, I'll call Tim Kennedy. | ||
| He'll save me. | ||
| In a helicopter. | ||
| In a fucking helicopter. | ||
| Yeah, when I asked Tim Kennedy how far he was telling me about this ranch, he's like, well, it's 55 minutes driving or 20 minutes by helicopter. | ||
| Well, I don't have a helicopter, dude. | ||
| He's got a helicopter. | ||
| He takes a helicopter everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, he's asking me to go shooting hogs with them out of the helicopter. | ||
| Yeah, he asked me that, too. | ||
| They don't keep the hogs, though. | ||
| The thing is, it's like an eradication thing. | ||
| First of all, those pigs, people think they're not good to eat because they eat horrible things. | ||
| They're great to eat. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| They're great to eat. | ||
| You just have to cook them the same way you would cook any animal that eats other animals. | ||
| When you eat an animal that eats other animals, whether it's a pig or mountain lion or bear... | ||
| You just have to cook it to more than a hundred and... | ||
| I think it's 160 degrees. | ||
| Like you're not eating medium rare. | ||
| To stop chicken rare. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well done. | ||
| Nope, nope, nope, nope. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta roast with it, huh? | ||
| Yeah, roasts. | ||
| You gotta just slow, low and slow. | ||
| You can sous vide it. | ||
| You can cook it at... | ||
| There's one thing you could do. | ||
| You can cook it at like a lower temperature for a longer period of time and like sous vide. | ||
| Because it'll kill the parasites if it gets to a certain temperature for a prolonged period of time. | ||
| I think they've proven that you can sous vide like wild pig and eat it in a medium rare, but you have to get it to 135 and cook it for many hours. | ||
| Yeah, Tim don't give a fuck about that. | ||
| Body count, son. | ||
| Well, they just... | ||
|
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Body count. | |
| The thing is, they get hired by ranches, or they get told by ranchers, like, this is a place where you can take people to shoot them, because Texas is infested with wild pigs. | ||
| And they're fucking up property. | ||
| Like, I get it. | ||
| Oh, billions of dollars in damage every year. | ||
| It's a crazy thing. | ||
| I'd be down to do it. | ||
| Yeah, it is, but... | ||
| I have a position that I have to take in terms of like... | ||
| See, the thing is, if I knew that the meat was going to go to something, I'd be cool with it. | ||
| Won't the other animals eat it? | ||
| Other pigs will eat it. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's gross. | ||
| Yeah, it's disgusting. | ||
| Yeah, they'll cannibalize each other. | ||
| Bears cannibalize each other. | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would do it, though. | ||
| But yeah, the point is I'm staying in L.A. for now until... | ||
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How do we get off that track so far that we're talking about cannibals? | |
| Oh, Tim Kennedy's saving me and killing animals. | ||
| I'm going to give it a year. | ||
| I'm not going to just rush into anything. | ||
| I'm going to give it a year. | ||
| See what happens. | ||
| Hopefully Newsom doesn't fuck up. | ||
| Oh, he's going to fuck it up. | ||
| I think they're going to get rid of him. | ||
| Oh, they are. | ||
| I think that Google guy. | ||
| Yeah, I can't wait. | ||
| That billionaire tech guy who wants to run. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| Yeah, I boosted his tweet. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| He said, he recalled Gavin Newsom. | ||
| I'm running for governor of California. | ||
| How do you pronounce his name, Jamie? | ||
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Chamath. | |
| I think Chamath. | ||
| Chamath or Chamath. | ||
| What is his full name? | ||
| I'll take anybody at this point. | ||
| Yeah, it's a complicated name, but he knows business. | ||
| And that's what this goddamn country, this state in particular, California in particular needs. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How do you say that? | ||
| Sri Lankan. | ||
| Palihapitiya. | ||
| Executive at Facebook, that's trouble. | ||
| Chamath, yeah, well, he knows his shit. | ||
| Boardman of Golden State Warriors, dig that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Big trouble for Newsom. | ||
| Big trouble. | ||
| Good. | ||
| That piece of shit. | ||
| Big trouble for Newsom. | ||
| And then Newsom is releasing, they've changed their policy in California in terms of they're allowing the restaurants to open, but yet they're not showing the COVID data anymore. | ||
| Because the reason why they're allowing the restaurants to open is, I gotta think it has something to do with pressure, and I gotta think it has something to do with the fact that he's being recalled. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's gotten quiet. | ||
| Like, you're not in L.A., but every morning you used to be on there talking shit, and we're locking down this, and this is why we're doing this. | ||
| Since the recall, you barely hear from him. | ||
| He's scared. | ||
| And the one time you heard from him, he was like... | ||
| Well, billionaires are doing good. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| Yeah, it's like, they let you talk and you fucked up, dude. | ||
| Yeah, well, the other thing is that he did a Q&A and some guy asked him, you know, is this because of the pressure, like reopening restaurants because of the pressure, because of the recall. | ||
| It's 100% not true. | ||
| It's just categorically. | ||
| Piece of shit. | ||
| Like the way he said it, though, was like stammering. | ||
| Yeah, he was like the guy on there. | ||
| You can tell the guy with the turkey neck. | ||
| He fucked up. | ||
| But New York's opening, Chicago open. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Listen, they shut those restaurants down to make it look like they were doing something. | ||
| It's all optics. | ||
| So you'd be like, okay, we tried our best. | ||
| No evidence that COVID is being spread through these outdoor dining establishments. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| It's strange because you're getting rid of the middleman, but then these big companies are left open, so you're forced to go there. | ||
| It's real clear. | ||
| The problem is they don't get penalized. | ||
| So they keep getting their checks every week. | ||
| And wasn't Newsom, at one point in time, wasn't he supposed to take a giant pay cut? | ||
| And never did it. | ||
| Never did it. | ||
| Never did it. | ||
| He got gifted a home and then took a mortgage out on it. | ||
| He got gifted a $3 million house and then took out a big mortgage on it. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's like there's so much garbage in politics and when you see these people that make decisions that crush small businesses and crush restaurants and 75% of all restaurants in LA are gone and they're probably never coming back. | ||
| What's interesting to me is people still put up with it. | ||
| It's like, you're going to listen to this guy after all this? | ||
| What can they do, man? | ||
| You're still doing it? | ||
| What can they do if they have a home there? | ||
| Revolt and open up. | ||
| But they can't, because then they'll lose their license and they'll never be able to open up once it's open. | ||
| Yes and no, because also the cops aren't on board with Newsom. | ||
| They're not enforcing the rules. | ||
| Right, but the cops are not the regulators. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to pull your licenses, and they'll never let you get it back. | ||
| It's tricky, man. | ||
| But I talked to Emily at the economy store, and she was saying they were having a conversation, I think today or Friday, that the economy store in La Jolla is going to open up next month, hopefully. | ||
| Well, you know, that makes sense. | ||
| I want to pull something that someone sent me. | ||
| About California? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The comedy store in La Jolla should have been opened up a long fucking time ago. | ||
| They wanted to do shows in the back parking lot. | ||
| Dude, I was booked there like two months ago and they yanked it. | ||
| Yeah, it's not good, dude. | ||
| They're going to open up. | ||
| I told Emily I'll do it for free. | ||
| Give the staff the money. | ||
| When the comedy store in L.A. opens, I'll do it. | ||
| Whatever they want to do. | ||
| Good for you, dude. | ||
| I had Craig from Craig's and John Tarzarian. | ||
| From L.A.? Craig's? | ||
| Oh, great restaurant. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How do you say John's last name? | ||
| Terzian? | ||
| Terzian. | ||
| Terzian. | ||
| Not Terzian. | ||
| And John was telling me that when he was speaking out against the regulators and the regulations they were putting down in Los Angeles, they were visiting his place every fucking day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| And he's like, you have thousands of restaurants. | ||
| He's like, well, it's not my fault. | ||
| We're told to come here every day. | ||
| They were fucking with him. | ||
| So that's Garcetti. | ||
| Mafia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're doing shady shit because they don't like this pressure. | ||
| They don't like criticism. | ||
| So they're abusing their power because they don't like criticism. | ||
| And they're going to lose their jobs. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Garcetti, name a bigger pussy. | ||
| Name a... | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Unreal! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And you listen to that guy. | ||
| There's another guy that's running for governor in California. | ||
| The San Diego guy? | ||
| Major Williams. | ||
| That guy too. | ||
| But Major Williams is a guy who's a veteran and he's been on the campaign trail for a while. | ||
| Republican guy. | ||
| The San Diego, I think, was he the mayor or governor of San Diego? | ||
| You've never seen a human being blink more in your life. | ||
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Really? | |
| He has to have a condition. | ||
| Or he's a lizard. | ||
| You've never, ever seen a human being blink a lot? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| They keep doing this. | ||
| Dude, I'm saying it's a condition. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| But I hope he wins. | ||
| See if you can find Major Williams' Instagram page. | ||
| Yeah, so he's on a run for the governor of California. | ||
| Let's get this brother in there. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a lot of support behind him too. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Veteran. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| And look at his positions. | ||
| He's anti-mandatory vaccinations, anti-human trafficking, anti-voter fraud, anti-high taxes, anti-over-regulations, anti-hate groups, anti-socialism, anti-communism, anti-online censorship, anti-defunding the police. | ||
| Yeah, no shit, aren't we all? | ||
| Pro-entrepreneurship, pro-innovation, pro-Second Amendment, pro-community collaboration, pro-school choice, pro-legal immigration, pro-forest management. | ||
| All these things are good. | ||
| Pro-armed forces, pro-first responders, pro-firefighters, pro-law enforcement officers, pro-life, pro-freedom, pro-family, pro-God. | ||
| Who's not pro-God? | ||
| Who's like, I'm cool with everything but God. | ||
| God can eat shit. | ||
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What did you make? | |
| What did you do, God? | ||
| What kind of a mess? | ||
| Look what you've done to us. | ||
| Look what you've done. | ||
| Look what you've done with the ocean. | ||
| You got sharks out there fucking all these fish up. | ||
| It's not their fault. | ||
| I don't know if he needs all that, but whoever. | ||
| Well, he's a positive force. | ||
| He's got some real good ideas. | ||
| And then this other gentleman from Google has some very good ideas. | ||
| This is the good thing about someone who's a poor manager, and not just poor manager, but corrupt. | ||
| Like when you saw Gavin Newsom at that restaurant eating indoors with no mask on, that's all you needed to know. | ||
| That's all you need to know. | ||
| You gotta look more into him, because there's that, and you're like, oh, that's ridiculous. | ||
| Well, do you know he left his vineyard open and closed the other ones? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know that his kids are in school? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's there, man. | ||
| You just gotta look into it. | ||
| It's a real piece of shit. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's classic politics, and he's probably been able to do this for his whole career while he was running San Francisco. | ||
| I'm sure this is the way they've operated forever. | ||
| This is the way Nancy Pelosi operated, who's his aunt, by the way. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi, who got busted at a beauty salon with no fucking mask on while the beauty salons were closed. | ||
| They caught her and they asked her, do you want to apologize? | ||
| They should apologize to me because it was a setup. | ||
| It was a setup. | ||
| It was a setup. | ||
| You know the fucking laws, lady. | ||
| You know those things aren't open. | ||
| I don't have hair and I know beauty salons are closed. | ||
| How the fuck do you not know? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The fact that that is tolerated. | ||
| These people who make these, the rules are for you and not for me. | ||
| Different rules for you than for me. | ||
| And that's what you saw with Gavin Newsom when he's eating at that restaurant with no fucking mask and then lying about the fact that it was outdoors. | ||
| Well, his approval rating's in the tank, so he'll get his. | ||
| How does he have any approval ratings? | ||
| That's my thing. | ||
| How does anybody fuck with him? | ||
| How does anyone look at that and go, ah, he's doing a good job? | ||
| Well, people are coming at him from both sides now. | ||
| Because now people are coming at him on the left for reopening up restaurants. | ||
| When I saw an article today saying that there's widespread support for keeping the economy locked down. | ||
| How insane is that? | ||
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With who? | |
| With who? | ||
| How insane is that? | ||
| But it's a lie. | ||
| Widespread support among who? | ||
| Your friends who are rich? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, people that have no money and are fucked right now want to be able to take a chance. | ||
| Wear a goddamn mask, take your vitamins, and go to work. | ||
| That's what people want to do. | ||
| Let us decide. | ||
| They want to keep their businesses open. | ||
| Look at Cuomo. | ||
| He's like, man, we got to open up because we're not going to have anything to open back up to if we keep shutting down. | ||
| We're like, yeah, bitch, we've been saying this since day one, dude. | ||
| Dude, when I talk to politicians who will talk to me both on the record and off the record, there was decisions that were made that were trying to fuck Trump over. | ||
| Real clear. | ||
| They didn't want the economy to rebound. | ||
| They made political decisions and they thought they could get away with it. | ||
| We have to get rid of those people. | ||
| Have to. | ||
| All those people that made those kind of decisions, we have to get rid of them. | ||
| It's heartbreaking. | ||
| I talked to Governor Abbott, the governor of Texas, and he was real clear. | ||
| He's like, we have to allow businesses to stay open. | ||
| He goes, if we don't have businesses staying open, we're doomed. | ||
| This is just how an economy works. | ||
| And Elon Musk talked about it on my podcast earlier. | ||
| Early on the pandemic. | ||
| Yeah, you know, he said these that these fools don't understand that if you don't make things There are no things you know people need to make things people people buy things they need things This is how the economy works if you don't make things there are no things like these fucking politicians They live in this world where they get a paycheck no matter what? | ||
| It's dark, dude. | ||
| You look at the crime rate. | ||
| Oh, dude, it's so dark. | ||
| It's so dark. | ||
| But what you don't want to have happen in California, and this would make me leave California, is you look at what Washington and Minneapolis did with the taxes. | ||
| Have you seen what they've done? | ||
| Oh, yeah, they've hacked them up. | ||
| They've hacked them way the fuck up. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| That's why everybody's moving here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not just because it's cool. | ||
| Not just because people are friendly as fuck. | ||
| I would have moved here if the taxes are the same. | ||
| Just because of the way they're handling COVID. It's just a better system here. | ||
| And it's also... | ||
| The other thing is it's an easier system to manage because there's less people. | ||
| The reality of California and the reality of LA is there's too many people. | ||
| There's a lot of people. | ||
| There's too many people to manage. | ||
| Yeah, it's scary for sure. | ||
| Hey, you like cigars? | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I like the smell of them. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| But I don't like stay on them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just whiskey for me, sir. | ||
| Just smell the cigar. | ||
| I took all of January off from drinking. | ||
| All of it? | ||
| Because I was drinking every single night. | ||
| Why were you doing that? | ||
| Just to kind of cope? | ||
| Just to wind down? | ||
| Just to get by? | ||
| 2020 was tough. | ||
| It was a weird year, man. | ||
| So I decided to drink every night. | ||
| It's a weird year, but I think for the people that survived, the one benefit, if you want to look for the silver lining in the cloud, the one benefit is that I think people are going to appreciate freedom and health and just the way things were. | ||
| And family. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's that for sure. | ||
| There's a lot of people that really, really appreciate their family and really appreciate the people that survived. | ||
| And, you know, when you have lost ones, loved ones that get lost or die in the pandemic or in any way, it makes you appreciate the people that are around you. | ||
| It makes you appreciate the UFC, too. | ||
| You know, Dana took a big risk when he went out there and was like, listen, we're going to carry on. | ||
| We're going to carry on. | ||
| And everyone gave him so much shit. | ||
| They did. | ||
| So many people gave him shit. | ||
| And that is a motherfucker. | ||
| Did Elon Musk make that or what? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's intense. | ||
| It's a regular cigar lighter. | ||
|
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Is it? | |
| Jesus. | ||
| I'm not a smoker. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That was pretty badass. | ||
| Yeah, it looks good, right? | ||
| Yeah, you look pretty gangster. | ||
| Yeah, you're full-blown Texas. | ||
| Yeah, man, you look happy. | ||
| Since I moved here, I've got eight guns given to me. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| People have given me eight guns. | ||
| Like Black Rifle and Tim Kennedy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tim Kennedy gave me a gun when he came on the podcast. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Standard. | ||
| And then eight other people gave me guns. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gun companies. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just like they're... | ||
| They don't give a fuck out here. | ||
| It's like in a fruit basket in LA, you get guns in Texas. | ||
| Well, it's just a different place, man. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| There's pros and cons to all this craziness, no matter where you live. | ||
| The pros here, in my opinion, outweigh the cons. | ||
| People are really nice. | ||
| They're really friendly. | ||
| The food's great. | ||
| And it's just like a more relaxed environment, man. | ||
| And if you can build a comedy scene, which I believe in you and that you'll do. | ||
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I got plans. | |
| Yeah, I know you do. | ||
| Then there's a huge pro here. | ||
| Because that's kind of the one con right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because LA, I can do six spots in a night. | ||
| Still? | ||
| Well, no, not right now. | ||
| I'm saying when it opens up. | ||
| Yeah, well, when it opens up here, by the time things open up, we've got plans, bro. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| We're shifting. | ||
| We're shifting. | ||
| Here, the thing is, the reason why we were in LA is because we were hoping... | ||
| To be a part of the Hollywood system. | ||
| The Hollywood system has more holes in it than the restaurant industry. | ||
| That system has been falling apart for a long time in terms of providing comedians jobs. | ||
| You get a few jobs, but the real jobs are on the internet. | ||
| That's the real jobs. | ||
| The real jobs are the jobs you create yourself. | ||
| Guys like Tim Dillon, guys like you, guys like me. | ||
| What we've done... | ||
| Through podcasts and YouTube and now Spotify is you don't need to be in a central location. | ||
| No. | ||
| You just need the support of other comics and guests and you need to do your best and put on a good show. | ||
| And it goes to the whole world. | ||
| It doesn't have to be centrally located in Los Angeles. | ||
| No. | ||
| It just doesn't have to be anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, my thing is, again, I'm sure it's going to get better here, especially if you open up a club and do that stuff. | ||
| But once L.A. does open up and those clubs are hopefully still around and I can do six to seven spots a night, you know? | ||
| You've been in L.A. for how long, Joe? | ||
| 30 years? | ||
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Close. | |
| You had that little stint in Denver and came back, but it's like you've been there forever, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you're older. | ||
| You're set, dude. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, you're a monster, so you can come out here and do that. | ||
| I gotta hustle, dude. | ||
| Oh, I get it. | ||
| I gotta fucking hustle. | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
| LA, there's just the energy there for me, and that's why I'm giving it a year. | ||
| I'm hoping that those things open back up so that hustle's available. | ||
| Now, you take that away, yeah, there's no reason for me to be there. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Listen, I love LA and I hope, especially I love the LA comedy scene. | ||
| I hope the improv reopens. | ||
| I hope the store reopens. | ||
| I hope everything comes back to life and survives. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| And I hope it's a great place for the comics in that area to thrive and to keep going. | ||
| But we don't need just one great place. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And I think that what kept me and a lot of people in Los Angeles was the showbiz industry. | ||
| But I don't think the showbiz industry applies to us the same way it applies to people that are trying to get on sitcoms. | ||
| I don't know why you're trying to get on there. | ||
| Well, I was making fun of Chris DiStefano because he was like, I'm trying to figure out how to come out there because we have this show on True TV. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? | ||
| You say that, but look what happened with those Impractical Jokers, guys. | ||
| Those guys are selling out fucking arenas. | ||
| I don't want to be those guys. | ||
| Wasn't that True TV? Sure. | ||
| I don't want to be those guys. | ||
| Yeah, but they want to be those guys. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| They're killing it. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Okay, you don't. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| But listen, Chris DiStefano is not selling out arenas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's a funny guy. | ||
| Chris DiStefano is a very funny guy. | ||
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Very talented. | |
| Very talented guy. | ||
| Just a matter of time before he pops. | ||
| Yes, for sure. | ||
| But he's not selling out arenas. | ||
| Those guys are. | ||
| Those impractical jokers guys are fucking killing it, dude. | ||
| Chris is funnier than them. | ||
| And it's all... | ||
| Well, they're not really stand-ups, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| They're more improvisational. | ||
| They do a whole show. | ||
| It's a very funny show. | ||
| Ari told me it's great. | ||
| He's been there. | ||
| He's done it with them. | ||
| He said it's fantastic. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Yeah, they're good at that for sure. | ||
| They had that tour that Burt went on. | ||
| Yeah, they crushed it. | ||
| Absolutely crushed it. | ||
| They had, not a tour, it's Cruise, right? | ||
| They had that Cruise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the point is, it worked out for them. | ||
| But the reason I think it worked out for Impractical Jokers is because it's a great show. | ||
| If you have a great show, you put it anywhere, people can find it. | ||
| You're going to make it no matter what. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It just needs a platform. | ||
| And you can create your own platform. | ||
| I mean, YouTube now, like, was special and stuff. | ||
| Look at Mark Norman. | ||
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Yes. | |
| If he put a special on, you know, I don't know how it would have done on Netflix, getting lost in the algorithm. | ||
| Maybe if he gets in, you know, behind you and Burr and Tom, maybe it blows up, like Nate Bargatsky. | ||
| But him putting it on YouTube, that thing, you know, he's had over 5 million views. | ||
| Yeah, and he deserves them all. | ||
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That's all Mark. | |
| Yeah, he deserves them all. | ||
| And it's all word of mouth. | ||
| And now Mark is killing it. | ||
| He's out there on the road, and he's killing it. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| That's the beautiful thing about comedy. | ||
| It's like, if you're undeniable, people find you out. | ||
| He does a lot of podcasts. | ||
| Mark is always a guest on podcasts. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| Everyone loves him. | ||
| Everyone knows how talented he is. | ||
| And he's dedicated to the game. | ||
| He loves comedy. | ||
| He's a true comic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Loves it. | ||
| Loves it. | ||
| And a great guy. | ||
| Just a great guy. | ||
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The best. | |
| Just a great guy. | ||
| Yeah, I'm happy when guys do the Andrew Schultz route. | ||
| Like what Andrew did. | ||
| Schultz, he's so fucking smart. | ||
| He put all his shit on YouTube. | ||
| He put an improvisational special on YouTube. | ||
| He put a crowd work special on YouTube. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All improvisational. | ||
| All fucking around with the crowd. | ||
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Off the cuff. | |
| For now. | ||
| And then he does his Netflix series based on shit that he was doing on Instagram during COVID. Yeah. | ||
| He gets together a bunch of writers. | ||
| He puts together a studio. | ||
| He spends a shitload of money and puts together these video clips that are just goddamn brilliant. | ||
| Just joke after joke, punchline after punchline. | ||
| It's not even his material. | ||
| So he still has to do a special with Netflix. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Or wherever he wants to go. | ||
| He fucking for sure could. | ||
| Well, not only is it not his material, Him and Tim. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But he figured out how to condense it into this undeniable form that you could put on Instagram. | ||
| I would send those clips to people and they'd be like, holy shit. | ||
| I put them up on my Instagram and they would get millions of views because they were that good. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Yeah, there's a few comics or podcasters or, you know, comedians who figured out in COVID how to adjust and capitalize on it. | ||
| And a lot of them just disappeared. | ||
| Yeah, but that's the guys that don't hustle. | ||
| Those are the same guys that don't write a lot. | ||
| That's what Mark Norman said. | ||
| I had him on the podcast. | ||
| He goes, you know, in hindsight, COVID's kind of good because you're going to find out who can hack it and who can't. | ||
| Who can deal with it and adapt and be a real comedian. | ||
| And who's got balls? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Who takes chances? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that just like, they're like, woe is me. | ||
| When is everything going to open? | ||
| When can I call in and get work? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And other guys just said, hey, we have these platforms. | ||
| We have YouTube. | ||
| We have Instagram. | ||
| We have Twitter. | ||
| We have all these different platforms where you could just put up videos. | ||
| Power through it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just do it and just... | ||
| Gather up a big following. | ||
| Again, it goes back to, you know, in major sports with the UFC. When everyone was scared and shut down, they went, nah, we're going to do it in this island in fucking Abu Dhabi. | ||
| I know, isn't that crazy? | ||
| Everyone gave so much shit, but they did it. | ||
| Nobody got hurt. | ||
| I mean, some fighters got punched in the face, but I'm saying no one got hurt from COVID. Everything's all good. | ||
| Isn't it funny? | ||
| They were worried about getting hurt from COVID. Meanwhile, they're getting shins bounced off their fucking temples. | ||
| But they're like, what about the fighters? | ||
| You're talking about the most elite athletes on the planet who are in crazy shape. | ||
| You think any of them, like every one of them that got COVID, like, I kind of think I had a headache. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sorry. | ||
| I've had worse allergy attacks. | ||
| Well, like, not only that, like, what was Calvin Cater's next day after the Max Holloway fight? | ||
| Probably worse than anything anyone's ever experienced other than dying from COVID. Yes. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| I mean, John... | ||
| They should have thrown in the towel on that. | ||
| Well, my thing is though, you can blame, I think, listen, you know I love you, Herb Dean. | ||
| You could have blamed Herb there, because like, dude, you know that kid, come on. | ||
| But then if you expect a corner of four Boston dudes to throw in a towel during a fucking cage fight, you're in your mind. | ||
| Never happening. | ||
| It's never happening. | ||
| Never happening. | ||
| If he was throwing hammer fists off his back, they would have gone, keep going, Calvin! | ||
| You got him on the ropes! | ||
| Yeah, they're savages. | ||
| Boston's filled with savages. | ||
| Savages. | ||
| So it's like, that was never gonna happen, man. | ||
| So, like, know the audience. | ||
| So for Herb, it's like, dude, you know they're from Boston. | ||
| But in Herb's defense, Calvin Cater was still swinging. | ||
| He was still fighting. | ||
| You gotta live to fight another day, man. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| You know, when you're getting beat up like that, and I love Calvin, man. | ||
| I hate to see it. | ||
| Love Calvin. | ||
| And I love Max, too, but it's like, that was a royal ass-whooping. | ||
| And you're also talking about a guy in Max Holloway who's, ready? | ||
| Never been sat down. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Not been knocked down once. | ||
| Never. | ||
| So just know the analytics. | ||
| This ain't happening. | ||
| He went toe-to-toe with Dustin Poirier. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| For five fucking rounds. | ||
| Didn't get sat down, dude. | ||
| No. | ||
| And got rocked multiple occasions. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That just shows you what a cracker Dustin Poirier is. | ||
| The fact that Max Holloway, who beats the shit out of Calvin Cater and says, I'm the best boxer in the UFC. And Dustin's like, hold on, son. | ||
| Dustin says, hold my hot sauce. | ||
| Do you not remember what the fuck just went down just a few months ago? | ||
| Dude, just... | ||
| Hold on, dear. | ||
| Dustin Poirier is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| He texted me after the fight because me and Theo, you know, Theo's a big Dustin Poirier fan because we're both from Louisiana. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And obviously, I'm a Connor Dick writer. | ||
| And so, and I love Dustin. | ||
| I'm way closer with Dustin. | ||
| But, you know, just for the show, it's fun to bet. | ||
| And so I bet Theo $1,000 cash. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| So as soon as Dustin, I don't know why he thought this, as soon as he got backstage, he must have got to his phone, text me, pay Theo his money. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, yeah, congrats, dude. | ||
| That must have been on his head. | ||
| I was like, you know it's all love. | ||
| You know it's all love, man. | ||
| Can't wait to tweet. | ||
| Yeah, you can't say that with a fighter. | ||
| You bet against a fighter, you can't say it. | ||
| Yeah, he knows it's bad, though. | ||
| Yeah, they get mad. | ||
| They get personal. | ||
| They do? | ||
| Well, they're very emotionally invested. | ||
| That's how they should be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you do with Dustin next? | ||
| Well, there's two options. | ||
| Have you talked about this? | ||
| No, I have not. | ||
| But there's the purest option. | ||
| The purest option is Charles Oliveira. | ||
| If you're a purest, you want that fight. | ||
| And I think I want that fight. | ||
| That should be the right thing to do. | ||
| If you want to make a shitload of money before Conor fights someone else, you have the rematch. | ||
| Oh, no, you can't do that. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| If Conor fights Michael Chandler next, which is a possibility, if Dustin fights... | ||
| I think Michael Chandler is a favorite in that fight. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, which is very dangerous for your money. | ||
| If you want to make a lot of money, what you do is you allow Connor to have some time off. | ||
| You figure out a way to market this in a way that you explain a way that Connor can figure out a way to beat Dustin. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| He did beat him in the first fight, and he did rock him in the second fight, and Dustin actually admitted there was one point in the first round where he was hurt. | ||
| And he was like, if Conor followed up, it might have been in trouble. | ||
| But that might be Dustin also saying, like, I would like that rematch. | ||
| Yeah, he knows what's up. | ||
| And he also might want that rematch. | ||
| A lot of money in that rematch. | ||
| And this pains me to say this. | ||
| I think you've got to take Conor out of the equation. | ||
| He's out. | ||
| Let me throw one more variable. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| The COVID restrictions get lifted. | ||
| Dublin, Ireland. | ||
| Soccer Stadium. | ||
| No, hear me out here, dude. | ||
| And it pains me to say this. | ||
| I love where your head's at. | ||
| You've got to take Conor out of the equation for the race for the title. | ||
| Because what you're going to have is Charles Oliveira, Dustin Poirier, Michael Chandler, Justin Gaethje. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then Conor, they're over here. | ||
| They're out of the tournament. | ||
| You're going to have Conor versus Nate Diaz trilogy in Dublin. | ||
| Go ahead and do that. | ||
| But they're not in the race for the title. | ||
| Well, Conor versus Nate Diaz is an excellent option. | ||
| It's an excellent option. | ||
| Because that doesn't offend anyone, like myself, who's a purist. | ||
| They both have time off. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Give them some time off. | ||
| It doesn't offend anyone. | ||
| And Nate is not the kind of kicker that Dustin is. | ||
| He's much more of a boxer. | ||
| It falls into Conor's wheelhouse more. | ||
| And Nate is also insanely durable. | ||
| And Nate also has a finish over Conor. | ||
| Conor does not have a finish over Nate Diaz. | ||
| And at 55 is where this thing should be settled. | ||
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| And you do that in Dublin, but they're out of the conversation of title. | ||
| Title is Charles Oliveira, Justin Gaethje, Michael Chandler. | ||
| Yes, but a lot of people are very offended that Michael Chandler gets an immediate jump right into almost title contention with one knockout over Dan Hooker. | ||
| But then you don't know the history of Michael Chandler. | ||
| That's true, but then... | ||
| You're talking about a former multi-time world champion, Bellator, fighting the who's who over there. | ||
| Had to finish over Ben Henderson. | ||
| But Patricio Pitbull knocked him out how long ago? | ||
| Yeah, and who's a smaller guy, but he also has a win over him, too. | ||
| Well, no, he has a win over his brother. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Patricchi Pitbull. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| He KO'd his brother, and then Patricio got revenge. | ||
| But he's a two-division champion in Bellator. | ||
| That guy is legit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He's legit. | ||
| He's like one of those guys who could make it over in the UFC. Come over in the UFC. Easily. | ||
| The other one is Lima. | ||
| Lima are the two guys. | ||
| Him and Lima are the two. | ||
| And, of course, Mousasi. | ||
| You know, Mousasi is 100% legit. | ||
| Mousasi might be the best 185 pounder in the world that's not in the UFC. I mean, he's the Bellator champion. | ||
| I mean, I don't see anybody in any other organization that could fuck with Mousasi. | ||
| I think he's so goddamn skillful. | ||
| And you see the way he beat Lima. | ||
| You know, he beat Lima in a fight where Lima had his leg in real fucking trouble. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Real trouble. | ||
| But he outpointed Lima. | ||
| I'm a big Mousasi nutrover. | ||
| I love Mousasi. | ||
| And I'm a big Lehman nut rider too. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Stylebender would knock Musashi out in two rounds. | ||
| Really? | ||
| 110%. | ||
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| And I love Musashi. | ||
| How great would that fight be? | ||
| I guess I'm into it. | ||
| I'm into Stylebender versus Jan. | ||
| Have you seen that card? | ||
| Jan Bohovic. | ||
| That makes my dick hard. | ||
| Jan Bohovic is a monster at 205. You want to talk about a guy who is depleting himself to make weight? | ||
| That Polish power? | ||
| His power is preposterous. | ||
| It's preposterous. | ||
| You think he hits Stylebender? | ||
| Listen, now, you know I'm a Conor Nutrider? | ||
| I'm fucking Bukkake Stylebender guy. | ||
| I'm just... | ||
| Like, if aliens came like, hey, so who's the best? | ||
| I'm showing them Stylebender. | ||
| Well, I think when you look at his fight with Paulo Costa, there's no doubt he's, and I've said this before, I'll say it again, the most sophisticated striker in the sport ever. | ||
| The best we've ever seen. | ||
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Ever. | |
| Hands down. | ||
|
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Ever. | |
| The most... | ||
| Wonderboy close second. | ||
| Complex. | ||
| Well, Wonderboy had a totally different kind of style, right? | ||
| Because it was weird. | ||
| Karate style, sideways stance, the best front leg stylist ever. | ||
| His movement. | ||
| Yeah, oh my god. | ||
| Stylebender and Wonderboy as far as like pure strikers, but Stylebender versus Jan, you know, I think Stylebender is a favorite in that and he should be. | ||
| Yeah, he should be. | ||
| But I don't think he's gonna defend like the belt there. | ||
| I don't see that happening. | ||
| He might. | ||
| He says he wants to go all the way up to heavyweight and fuck Jon Jones up. | ||
| I know, he keeps saying that he came on Food Truck and he's like, dude, you keep saying that I'm too small. | ||
| He's like, I'm pretty big. | ||
| I was like, you're pretty fucking big. | ||
| He was taller than me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| By an inch? | ||
| Is he 6'4"? | ||
| 6'4-ish? | ||
| 6'4 and a half? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he doesn't want to put any weight on, which is interesting. | ||
| He wants that speed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he also says- Have you seen John lately, though? | ||
| He looks so big. | ||
| Oh, he's so juicy. | ||
| He looks so big. | ||
| He's jacked. | ||
| He looks so big. | ||
| Yeah, all he's doing is powerlifting. | ||
| And he's getting the winner of Francis for Stipe. | ||
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Yes. | |
| That's a dangerous fight. | ||
| Francis is the favorite in that. | ||
| He's so dangerous right now. | ||
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You know that? | |
| Francis is the favorite. | ||
| Francis is the favorite of almost any human being if he catches you on the chin. | ||
| Is he the favorite over John if they fight, you think? | ||
| Here's the thing with Francis. | ||
| Here's where Francis becomes the favorite if they do it at the Apex Center. | ||
| You're saying with no crowd? | ||
| No, that fucking small ring. | ||
| A small octagon is a big difference, man. | ||
| See, I feel like that's more advantage for Johnny. | ||
| He's going to take him down. | ||
| Stipe. | ||
| Oh, you're saying Stipe. | ||
| Oh, word. | ||
| This is why it's dangerous. | ||
| Like, you can't get away from him. | ||
| Like, yeah, it's harder to move away. | ||
| Like, what Stipe has to do in that fight is he has to be mobile, and he has to figure out a way to get out of the big shots, get out of the way of the big shots, and then implement his takedown game. | ||
| You know, I know I had Justin Wren on the podcast the other day, and Justin was talking about how Stipe wanted to bring him into his camp. | ||
| I told Justin, like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Like, Justin's got fucked up knees, he's got a fucked up neck, he's got fucked up shoulders, and he just got stem cells shot in. | ||
| Justin's like oh, he's got a girl the time shit and like always He had Cerebral malaria. | ||
| He had malaria in his brain quick on Africa He had parasites in his body that fucked him up for how many years Jamie we talked about this It's a quick on that do it from the ins do for mom words in years and years of his body being destroyed by parasites He's had like a real problem over there. | ||
| It's still thick malaria three times. | ||
| Yeah Still thick. | ||
| Yeah, still thick. | ||
| But the point is, I've told them, like, you're always creating these new problems in your life. | ||
| Don't, while you're in the middle of healing, go do a fucking training camp with a heavyweight champion of the world. | ||
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Has he been training? | |
| Has he been training? | ||
| No! | ||
| He can get fucked up, dude. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| And Stipe, listen, I've been in training camp with Stipe, but he's a motherfucker. | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| He's gonna ragdoll you around, Justin. | ||
| Well, also, Stipe is, what, 38 now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's got to know this is his last run. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Francis. | ||
| And if he can beat Francis for a second time and prove the odds makers wrong, because I believe he was the underdog in the first fight as well. | ||
| He was, yeah. | ||
| So if he can give a big fuck you to all these people making the odds, and then he goes down in history as the greatest of all time. | ||
| I think he already goes down in history as at least the most accomplished heavyweight in the UFC of all time. | ||
| That's a good way to put it. | ||
| A most accomplished. | ||
| Because if gun to the head, if it's a prime Cain Velasquez... | ||
| Gun to the head, I like prime Cain over everybody that's ever lived. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| I don't know why he doesn't give more respect. | ||
| Well, people forget. | ||
| It's like Roy Jones' song. | ||
| Y'all must have forgot. | ||
| Y'all must have forgot. | ||
| Kane was a motherfucker. | ||
| His cardio was... | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| It didn't make sense. | ||
| He had cardio like a flyweight, and he was 240 pounds. | ||
| And, you know, when he fucked up Brock Lesnar, when he fucked up Ben Rothwell... | ||
| How about JDS and the rematch? | ||
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Oh, yeah, dude. | |
| He's like, oh, yeah, you clipped me behind the ear. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| And took years off JDS's... | ||
| For sure. | ||
| JDS was never the same. | ||
| For sure, yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's... | ||
| And then the other rematch... | ||
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Dude. | |
| He battered him. | ||
| It's horrific. | ||
| What Kane used to do to people was hit them with a pace that no other human being that's a heavyweight other than Kane Velasquez could maintain. | ||
| And I don't think we'll ever see that type of cardio ever again. | ||
| Special individual. | ||
| I think he's just uniquely talented. | ||
| Yep, me too. | ||
| And also, his mind was so fucking strong that... | ||
| And the mind being so fucking strong is one of the reasons why his body started blowing apart. | ||
| Because his shoulders, his neck, his back, his knees, everything started going eventually, and that's when he stopped being Cain Velasquez. | ||
| Talk to DC about it. | ||
| You've had DC in here? | ||
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| You work with DC, you son of a bitch. | ||
| We've tried to make it happen for him to come in here, but we never figured it out. | ||
| I love DC. But you talked to DC, who was his main training partner, and when Steepi and DC fought that rematch to go down as the greatest heavyweight of all time, ask DC who's the best Volta. | ||
| Ask how the rounds went with him and Kane. | ||
| You hear those stories and you're like, what? | ||
| Monster, dude. | ||
| He said it publicly. | ||
| Yeah, so that's where I'm at with it. | ||
| He's like, I don't think I can beat that dude. | ||
| It'd be tough. | ||
| The other guy's Fedor. | ||
| I'm not as high on Fedor. | ||
| Oh man, Fedor when he fought Krokop, Fedor when he fought Noguera, Fedor when he was the fucking man. | ||
| And he was a unique combination of a guy who could finish you off his back with arm bars as well as smash you on his feet. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He was so goddamn good. | ||
| See, I think that GOAT, and they do it in basketball all the time with LeBron and Jordan, and they do it in football with Tom Brady and these other guys. | ||
| It's tough to say greatest of all time. | ||
| It's the greatest of that time period. | ||
| That's more fair. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because when Fedor's fighting, listen, it's the Wild West. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Has Fedor had some weird Russian shit in his ass from Needles? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If I had a guess, after watching the documentary Icarus from Brian Fogle, where they talked about how there was a state-sponsored doping program where all of the Olympic athletes... | ||
| I mean, Brian Fogle was just on the podcast recently talking about it. | ||
| The only people they didn't dope was the figure skaters. | ||
| So with Fader, maybe? | ||
| Well, the figure skaters, it doesn't help. | ||
| It didn't help these small movements. | ||
| We didn't need to help them. | ||
| But to Fedor's defense, the guys he was fighting were all on the same ship, too. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So that's a time period, man. | ||
| It's like when Lance Armstrong was competing in Tour de France. | ||
| They're all doing it. | ||
| Everybody was doing it. | ||
| They're also on bikes. | ||
| Bill Burr has a fantastic bit about him. | ||
| So does Tony. | ||
| Does Tony? | ||
| About Lance Armstrong? | ||
| Yeah, bike riding. | ||
| No, about transgender. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, but cycling. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| That's that Rachel McKinnon. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, it's a great bit. | ||
| And this is also true. | ||
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| Yeah, there's a thing about these sports where everybody knows they're dirty. | ||
| That's like if, let's say, you want to talk about the greatest bodybuilders of all time. | ||
| You've got your Ronnie Coleman's, your Lee Haney's, you know, you've got your... | ||
| Arnold. | ||
| Arnold, you know, there's... | ||
| Jay Cutler, Phil Heath. | ||
| Yeah, Dorian Yates. | ||
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Jackson. | |
| Dorian Yates was the king of... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| All those guys, you look at Yates and Schwarzenegger and Coleman and like, who's the greatest of all time? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What if one of them tested positive for steroids? | ||
| Well, you gotta take him out of the mix. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Get the fuck, come on. | ||
| That's what it's like with cycling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like you can't do that. | ||
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If you say, well, Lance tested positive, we're gonna take away his title. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| Well, it's the same with Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa in baseball. | ||
| You don't think the pitchers were on shit, you idiots? | ||
| They were all on shit. | ||
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They were all on something. | |
| Everyone was on something. | ||
| So it goes by time period. | ||
| Yeah, it's a weird thing, right? | ||
| It's like you can't really have a greatest of all time. | ||
| Also, in fighting, the other problem is you don't have much time. | ||
| You know, you have a few years at the peak RPMs. | ||
| We could really handle the fucking hard camps and the three, four fights a year. | ||
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Your sport is about destroying bodies. | |
| There's only so much the body can take. | ||
| It's a tough fucking gig, man. | ||
| What did you think about Holloway not sparring for Calvin Cain? | ||
| I love it. | ||
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I love it, too. | |
| It's smart. | ||
| But all the big boy sports that have been around forever, they don't really beat up their bodies in training. | ||
| They're so smart about it. | ||
| Now. | ||
| Like Ohio State, they don't do that. | ||
| Michigan, you know, the NFL teams, they save it for when it counts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you look at the UFC and guys just blast each other in the face. | ||
| It's just such a meathead thing to do. | ||
| So I think with Max Holloway having such good performance, it's kind of like when GSP came out and we found out about his kind of camp and how he's doing all this stuff and taking care of his body and doing gymnastics. | ||
| And then this wave of people started to take it more professionally. | ||
| I think that's what Max Holloway's doing, saying, I didn't spar. | ||
| Can you look that fucking good? | ||
| Yeah, I know I'm tough. | ||
| I know I can take hits. | ||
| It's just about timing, stuff like that. | ||
| Well, the Thais, like when, you know, I talked to John Wayne Parr about his time training in Thailand, he's like, one of the things that's really interesting is the way the Thais spar. | ||
| They just play tag. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They're not cracking each other. | ||
| It doesn't make sense, man. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't make sense. | ||
| And they play. | ||
| They're just trying to get their timing down. | ||
| They're just trying to, ah, gotcha. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, they're just trying to find openings. | ||
| And they're doing it with the elite fighters in the gym where... | ||
| Either guy could destroy the other guy's legs and head and body. | ||
| You're kicking each other and kneeing each other and elbowing each other. | ||
| It doesn't make sense to just go to war all the time. | ||
| I think once you get to enough experience, you can do that. | ||
| If you're an up-and-comer, you've got to pay your dues. | ||
| But I think once you get a certain level, you can do that. | ||
| You most certainly have to get accustomed to getting hit. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I know if it's for you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And see, that's where I'm at. | ||
| I'd love to get your opinion on this with the Jake, Paul, and Ben Askren. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, this is my... | ||
| Because I take some offense to it, because all my friends, when that got announced, went, oh, Ben's getting it knocked out. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| What? | ||
| That's weird to say, because let's say you don't know who Jake Paul or Ben Askren is, and I give you the resumes. | ||
| Let me go through the resumes. | ||
| So let's go through this fighter A. He was an Olympian wrestler. | ||
| He was a two-time national champion wrestler. | ||
| He won the Heisman in College Division I wrestling. | ||
| Hold on, are they wrestling? | ||
| They're not wrestling. | ||
| I'm glad you asked that. | ||
| So that fighter A that has all those wrestling accolades, he's a Hall of Famer. | ||
| So he fought in a steel cage in one championship. | ||
| Big organization. | ||
| He was world champion there. | ||
| Was he a striker? | ||
| He wasn't, but he still won. | ||
| Did he win any striking at all? | ||
| No, good question. | ||
| He didn't really stand up much, right? | ||
| Not a lot, but I'm glad you asked that. | ||
| Because then he went over to Bellator. | ||
| Second biggest organization in the world. | ||
| He fought the guy he loved, Douglas Lima. | ||
| Five rounds. | ||
| Didn't get knocked out. | ||
| Yes, but he just wrestled him. | ||
| Yeah, but still, didn't get knocked out. | ||
| And Korshkov, another killer. | ||
| A killer, right? | ||
| Ragdolled him. | ||
| But he didn't strike with him at all, right? | ||
| Nope, but didn't get knocked out. | ||
| And they're in four-ounce gloves. | ||
| So, yeah, two-time world champion in different divisions. | ||
| And then he goes to the UFC. Well, he went to one FC before that. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm just saying he was champ in both those. | ||
| Right, but he went to champ in one FC as well, where they allowed him to take guys down and knee him in the face. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Didn't get knocked out there. | ||
| Undefeated. | ||
| Also took guys down and didn't stand up with anybody. | ||
| These are great points. | ||
| So then he goes over to the UFC, fights a guy in Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Tough character. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beat him. | ||
| Didn't get knocked out. | ||
| Controversial beating. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like Robbie got fucked there. | ||
| But then he fought Jorge Maslow and got starched. | ||
| But there's this narrative on Fighter A, a.k.a. | ||
| Ben Askren, where awful striking and he did get knocked out by Jorge. | ||
| I get all that. | ||
| You're talking about an Olympian, a bona fide Hall of Famer mixed martial artist. | ||
| That mentality... | ||
| So there's Fighter A. Let me give you Fighter B that we don't know about. | ||
| Fighter B... YouTube star. | ||
| YouTube star. | ||
| Did some wrestling in high school. | ||
| Says he ran a 4-4-40. | ||
| I'm not calling Jake Paul a liar, but I am saying his gym coach who timed that is a liar. | ||
| That never happened. | ||
| I've been around the game a long time. | ||
| A 4-4 is very highly unlikely. | ||
| His gym coach lied to him. | ||
| But also, he's 2-0, and you say, well, who'd he beat up? | ||
| Well, he beat up another YouTuber, and they beat up a basketball player that won a slam dunk contest who has never fought before. | ||
| Who would you pick in that? | ||
| Well, one thing that I don't believe is that Ben Askren would knock out Nate Robinson the way that Jake Paul did. | ||
| He'd beat him. | ||
| He might beat him. | ||
| Guarantee he'd beat him. | ||
| He might beat him. | ||
| Ben is not an explosive guy. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| He's very good at utilizing his superior wrestling knowledge, positions and technique. | ||
| Wearing you out, annoying, heavy, great cardio, terrible body. | ||
| He knows how to grab ahold of guys and drag you to the ground and implement his style. | ||
| He won't be able to do that. | ||
| So his main thing will be out. | ||
| His main thing will be completely removed. | ||
| Wrestling. | ||
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| But the tie-ups and that Olympian mentality that made him a two-time world champion to the biggest organization in the world is still there. | ||
| There's no doubt, but he's got a month. | ||
| And he has a new hip. | ||
| Yeah, but that takes a long time to heal from. | ||
| And he has a month. | ||
| He's got a month to train. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| Listen... | ||
| Now, I'm not saying Ben's going to win, but all I'm saying is it's... | ||
| Well, Ben certainly thinks he can win. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| It's crazy to me. | ||
| We're just all like, oh, Ben's going to get knocked down. | ||
| He's in a fucking Olympian. | ||
| This guy's a YouTuber. | ||
| Now, granted, Jake does have some skills that we know of from Nate Robinson and this other YouTuber. | ||
| Well, not just that. | ||
| You can watch him hit the bag, watch him hit pads, you can watch him spar. | ||
| He's got good timing. | ||
| He's got very good hand speed. | ||
| His technique is excellent. | ||
| He's got very good striking technique. | ||
| And for me, this fight gets interesting. | ||
| Let's say it goes past the third round. | ||
| What's Jake look like when there's a little bit of adversity? | ||
| You know, when he can't knock out Ben, then what do we get? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's where I'm at on it. | ||
| But just to say that Jake's going to starch him is insane to me. | ||
| I'm going to watch. | ||
| I'll take my fucking money. | ||
| I'm going to watch it. | ||
| It's the perfect opponent for Jake, too. | ||
| What do you think about Logan, his brother Logan Box and Floyd Mayweather? | ||
| That's even more crazy. | ||
| Have you heard about that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He got delayed because they did this weird paper. | ||
| I think there's two reasons why it didn't sell well, and that's why it got pushed, because it didn't sell well. | ||
| So they did this weird pay-per-view thing where if you bought it early, it was like $14.99. | ||
| If you bought it a month later, it was $29.99. | ||
| If you wait until the night of the fight, it's $69.99. | ||
| Americans and the world's not used to that pay-per-view platform. | ||
| I don't know when it is, but I don't know what I'm doing on that February night. | ||
| I'm going to wait until that night. | ||
| So they based it off the sales, pre-sales, and they pushed it because the sales weren't there. | ||
| The interest isn't there right now. | ||
| But that's just because people don't pay for things in advance. | ||
| I know, figure it out. | ||
| Now if it was like 50 people that bought it, alright, there's probably not a lot of interest. | ||
| But I don't know how many people bought it. | ||
| But, you know, I'm more curious with Jake and Ben. | ||
| Well, if I was Logan, I would love the fact that they pushed it. | ||
| Because that would give him more time to train. | ||
| Because it's just a time thing. | ||
| And he's still fucked. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't matter. | ||
| Literally fighting the best boxer ever, right? | ||
| He's certainly in the argument as the best boxer ever. | ||
| You know, it's like the guy could use a couple of years of real training just to be competitive. | ||
| They're not going to push it years. | ||
| He's way bigger, though. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| He's way bigger than Floyd. | ||
| Way bigger than Floyd. | ||
| Isn't it weird we're breaking this down in 2021? | ||
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Isn't it funny? | |
| It's funny. | ||
| And people are mad. | ||
| Like, look, the guy's got balls. | ||
| He's willing to fight. | ||
| He's willing to fight literally the best boxer of all time. | ||
| Yeah, it's a freak show. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| Fucking Fedor fought Hongman Choi. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You've seen this before, though. | ||
| We've been seeing freak shows forever. | ||
| People forget. | ||
| Kimbo was this early on. | ||
| Kimbo was kind of this. | ||
| He was a big YouTube star. | ||
| When we came to the UFC, he still had haters. | ||
| There's a little difference there, but Kimbo's a lot older. | ||
| Yep, yep, good point. | ||
| They threw him to the dogs. | ||
| Well, they wanted to make it hard for him, that's for sure. | ||
| That's a shame. | ||
| They did him wrong. | ||
| They did him wrong. | ||
| Do you think that he would have been better off if he fought in, well, he did fight in Elite XC. And was winning. | ||
| They were giving him guys that he could beat. | ||
| Well, until Seth Pretorzelli came around. | ||
| I remember that fight. | ||
| I remember how that went down, though. | ||
| He was supposed to fight Ken Shamrock. | ||
| And Ken Shamrock wasn't getting enough money, or maybe cut himself. | ||
| He cut himself in the back, and then he came to Kimbo, like, here's Seth. | ||
| Now, if you know fighting, you're like, ooh, Seth is a bit of a beast, especially in training. | ||
| We know he's a motherfucker. | ||
| If he gets his head right, he's a dangerous dude. | ||
| Kimbo's team doesn't know. | ||
| They're like, all right, yeah, give us that fuck with the purple mohawk. | ||
| Get starched. | ||
| Dude, I was in Georgia, and I was backstage, and I just got off stage. | ||
| I was working at the Punchline in Atlanta, and I just got off stage. | ||
| And I got off stage, and I was ready to see Ken Shamrock fight Kimbo. | ||
| And I looked up, there's a video of it. | ||
| There's a video of me calling the fight. | ||
| Saying, Seth's gonna knock him out? | ||
| I said, Seth's gonna fuck him out. | ||
| I never say this. | ||
| I'm like, Seth's gonna fuck him out. | ||
| And he knocked him out in like, you know, 20 seconds or whatever it was. | ||
| But I'm like, I told you. | ||
| And I'm like, this is a... | ||
| I'm like, Kimbo's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Rest in peace. | ||
| He was a great guy, too. | ||
| But it was just... | ||
| It was a bad matchup. | ||
| Seth Petruzzelli... | ||
| Nightmare, dude. | ||
| Nightmare. | ||
| And in that time, during that time period, Seth Petruzzelli was in his prime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, even Kimbo, like, when he was in The Ultimate Fighter, like... | ||
| It was all predicted. | ||
| Like, it was all already arranged that he was going to lose in the first round. | ||
| Like, they set him and Roy up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, Dana took Rashad and Rampage in the back, and they came out like, he's fighting Roy! | ||
| And we're like, that makes no sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| They just want him to lose. | ||
| And Roy just got him in that crucifix and noogied him. | ||
| On Kimbo's face, he's like, oh, fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, yeah, dude, you became an ultimate fighter. | ||
| They control this, man. | ||
| That has got to be one of the most frustrating positions to try to get out of in an MMA fight. | ||
| That crucifix with Roy? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Nightmare. | ||
| Especially because he's so heavy. | ||
| 250 pounds, on your face, maybe even more. | ||
| Even more, yeah. | ||
| And tying you up, tying your legs up, and just, your face is just wide open. | ||
| And now imagine, Kimbo, you're a white belt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you're lost, dude. | ||
| You're lost. | ||
| Lost. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was a shame. | ||
| They shouldn't have done that to him. | ||
| What do you think they should have done, though? | ||
| If I'm Kimbo, I mean, it's good for me because that's how I got my career. | ||
| He was the biggest ultimate fighter ever. | ||
| He should have came to the UFC as almost a regular guy or just done his thing and controlled the matchups so he got more experience and then came more to the UFC. Because when you're in the UFC and they're trying to prove a point against you, which doesn't make sense to me. | ||
| It's the same thing with Conor. | ||
| I don't know how you feel about this, but it's obviously easier to say in hindsight now, but... | ||
| Like, Conor fighting Dustin Poirier after basically only fighting, what, five rounds in four years? | ||
| Doesn't make sense. | ||
| You know how the game works. | ||
| I know a lot of guys are like, oh, ring rust isn't real. | ||
| I beg the differ, dude. | ||
| And for Conor to take all that time off and he has all these other businesses going on, he beat Cerrone, so we're like, oh, he's ready to go. | ||
| He's a little older. | ||
| And then fights Dustin Poirier, the number two lightweight in the world? | ||
| Like, that's not the move, man. | ||
| His team should have been smart about it. | ||
| What do you think they should have done? | ||
| Fought Nate Diaz, the trilogy. | ||
| Get that win. | ||
| His chances of winning that fight are way better than beating Dustin Poirier, this fucking dog who's been in the game and lives, eats, and sleeps fucking in the lightweight division. | ||
| Should have fought another guy who's had time off, you know, and they figure out together in there. | ||
| I don't know if he wins that. | ||
| That's a tough fight for him, too. | ||
| But what you're doing is, in hindsight, you fucked up the business plan, man. | ||
| Because now, Conor, you have to. | ||
| Well, you've got to take a chance, right? | ||
| But we don't need to take a chance. | ||
| If he wins, if he beats Dustin, he's in line for a shot at the title. | ||
| And he could say, I'm the uncrowned champ! | ||
| Yeah, but there's better ways to go about it. | ||
| We can still get there, but we can do this over here to make sure he's at his peak by the time he gets there. | ||
| Yeah, but isn't this Monday morning quarterbacking? | ||
| I said in hindsight here. | ||
| If he knocks out Dustin Poirier, he's the fucking man. | ||
| And he knocked out Dustin before, many years ago, obviously. | ||
| But if he felt like he could do it again, you've got to give him a chance. | ||
| He also needs a challenge. | ||
| Nate Diaz isn't a challenge, though? | ||
| He is a challenge. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| But Nate Diaz is not even necessarily willing to fight him. | ||
| Oh, yeah, he is. | ||
| Nate hasn't fought in forever. | ||
| Because Nate's waiting for that Conner fight. | ||
| Well, last time Nate fought, he fought Madison Square Garden against Masvidal for the BMF. That was a tough one. | ||
| But again, you're talking about a Nate who's had time off fighting a motherfucker. | ||
| What's happening here? | ||
| That's Jake training with Masvidal. | ||
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No way! | |
| Apparently Nate wants to fight him, but Nate has two fights left in his UFC contract. | ||
| He wants to fight Masvidal? | ||
| Who wants to fight him? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Nate wants to fight Jake Paul. | ||
| Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
| See, Jake has to be careful, though, because he's stepping into the real world of fighters with Ben Askren, who's a Hall of Famer. | ||
| You beat him, where do you go from there? | ||
| No celebrity, no NBA guy's gonna fight you, because you just beat a real guy. | ||
| Now you're fighting guys like Nate Diaz. | ||
| That can't be good. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, well, you know, I feel like that kid could fight. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Jake Paul. | ||
| And if he wanted to fight and just be a regular boxer, I think he'd have a real chance at having a career in boxing. | ||
| Now, would he get the kind of attention he's getting right now after a knockout of an NBA player? | ||
| No. | ||
| It would be a slow build. | ||
| But I'm looking at his skills. | ||
| If he wasn't a big YouTuber, like famous, you're looking at, what, 10 years? | ||
| You're looking at some time. | ||
| I mean, I don't know how much time he spent boxing before he had those two fights. | ||
| How much time did he spend striking? | ||
| Two years. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| Two or three years, yeah. | ||
| But no training before that? | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| Did some wrestling. | ||
| When did his brother have his first fight with KSI? When was that? | ||
| That was the first fight he had, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They had a draw and then he lost the decision, right? | ||
| And that was, when did that start? | ||
| Was that two years ago? | ||
| Two years ago? | ||
| Three years ago? | ||
| I gotta think he was training before that. | ||
| They're athletic kids, man. | ||
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| So if they put their mind to something, they're gonna go pretty far. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's like, you know, if you looked at him as just a boxing contender, you know, I'd be like, I'll keep an eye on that kid. | ||
| We'll see where he goes. | ||
| But that's not where he's at, unfortunately. | ||
| No, exactly. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| You know, it's a double-edged sword. | ||
| It's the Kimbo Slice thing where you're gonna run into somebody... | ||
| And it happened to me, dude. | ||
| You know, I was more athletic than a lot of these guys. | ||
| And you get so far, and then you meet a vet who's like, you're athletic? | ||
| Yeah, cool, man. | ||
| You have a heavy right hand. | ||
| All right, cool. | ||
| I've seen this before, dude. | ||
| You know, you're going to run into a real vet. | ||
| And that's going to happen. | ||
| Eventually, undeniably, it's going to happen to these guys. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Greg Hardy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're talking about an all-pro NFL player, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking freak. | ||
| But it doesn't matter, man. | ||
| There's not enough time in the day to get the skills that's going to take for you to beat an Overeem, to beat a Francis, to beat a Curtis Blades. | ||
| No matter how much, it doesn't matter who's your coach, it doesn't matter how many times you train today, you're never going to get there. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| You're just not? | ||
| I feel like with Greg Hardy, he almost would be better off in just striking. | ||
| It almost seems like with a guy like that, like, you know, he got taken down and who just took him down and mauled him? | ||
| The Polish cat. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Tibera? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Marcin Terbora. | ||
| There was nothing on the ground. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Like, no proper framing, shrimping, like, day one shit. | ||
| He seemed like he had no idea what to do. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I feel like a guy like that, it's like he's got so much to learn, it's almost not even possible. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Fuck a lot of people upstanding. | ||
| And that's good. | ||
| So you're always going to be around that 10 to 20 range. | ||
| You're never going to crack those top guys. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| It seems like at 30... | ||
| And I know it sounds like I'm being negative, but it's just not... | ||
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No, you're not. | |
| We're just looking at... | ||
| It's almost like you're looking at mathematics, right? | ||
| You're looking at the amount of time that it takes to develop a skill. | ||
| There's not enough hours in the day. | ||
| There was one of, without naming him, there was a guy that I knew that was a black belt in jiu-jitsu who was going to take on an MMA fight. | ||
| And I know he was doing no striking at all. | ||
| And he was just starting to do some striking to prepare for an MMA fight that was a couple months away. | ||
| And I was like, you gotta not do this. | ||
| You gotta not do this. | ||
| And he's like, why? | ||
| I go, because what you can do to people on the ground, someone can do to you standing up. | ||
| You have to understand this. | ||
| I know you think you're really good, because you're really good at jujitsu. | ||
| So you have this idea that I'm a guy who fucks people up. | ||
| I go, but there are things that happen when you're doing stand-up. | ||
| There's places that people can put you in that are real similar to places you can put people on the ground, where they just have no chance. | ||
| They have no chance. | ||
| And the fight starts on the feet, and those guys that can put you in those positions on the feet can negate what you want to do on the ground. | ||
| Yeah, because a lot of those guys... | ||
| You're never going to get them there, dude. | ||
| Yeah, and they know how to stop takedowns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you're not a wrestler. | ||
| You're not like an elite wrestler. | ||
| Again, your ceiling's here. | ||
| No matter how much you do it, you can box with everyone. | ||
| Jason Perillo, Mark Henry, it doesn't matter. | ||
| Your ceiling's here, dude. | ||
| So you can do it, but there's a ceiling. | ||
| And striking is such a weird thing, too, because if you are a guy... | ||
| Here's one of the reasons why I'm skeptical about Ben Askren. | ||
| Because he's not explosive. | ||
| He's not fast. | ||
| He's not a fast guy. | ||
| There's some guys that get into striking, even as wrestlers, with no striking history, but they pick it up really quickly. | ||
| They just have speed. | ||
| They just have speed and power. | ||
| They know how to do it. | ||
| And there's other guys, you look at them, you're like... | ||
| This is never going to work. | ||
| You don't have enough time. | ||
| There's not enough time in your life. | ||
| You literally needed to learn when your body was growing. | ||
| And you didn't. | ||
| And now you're doomed. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| And to be negative like that, people are like, well, how can you say that? | ||
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I know. | |
| I know. | ||
| But you can say that. | ||
| They can learn. | ||
| You've got to realize the guys ahead of them are so far ahead. | ||
| Unless they have a time machine, it's just impossible. | ||
| That's the analytics, man. | ||
| You learn certain things while your body's maturing. | ||
| If you look at a guy like Floyd Mayweather who learned boxing when he was a child, if you look at there's a lot of kickboxers that learn striking, whether they start out in Kyokushin or Muay Thai or whatever it is, they start out so young, their body develops with that ability and you're not going to learn that. | ||
| You're not going to be able to do what they do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you're fighting in a limited sport, a sport with limited rules, like whether it's kickboxing or whether it's boxing, where you only can do this one thing, like, dude, you're going to fight a guy, like if you're going to fight a guy like Conor McGregor or a guy who's a legitimate striker who's really good at this one thing, like, man, it's going to take you forever to get that good. | ||
| Yeah, again, it sounds like we're being negative, but also, as you mentioned earlier, your career is pretty finite. | ||
| No one's doing this for 10, 15 years unless you're a complete fucking freak. | ||
| The majority, I think the average career is like, I don't know what it is now. | ||
| It used to be a year and a half. | ||
| How crazy is Diego Sanchez? | ||
| The fact that he's still doing it. | ||
| He's still doing it. | ||
| And he said he wants to have one more fight, but he said his time is now to heal, it's not to fight. | ||
| I'm like, if you say that, shouldn't just stop? | ||
| I think he just wants to go out on a good performance or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, hopefully the UFC does him a favor, gives him a good opponent. | ||
| You know, again, it's all in hindsight. | ||
| We're Monday morning armchair quarterback here. | ||
| But, you know, that's why Conor, he knew that the timing and the ring rest was going to be an issue. | ||
| So he begged Dana and the UFC for fights. | ||
| And he leaked those tweets out saying he wanted to fight Diego and everyone's making fun of him. | ||
| He's like, I don't give a fuck who it is. | ||
| Diego said he was down. | ||
| I'm just trying to get in there before I have to face the number two guy in the world. | ||
| Well, if Conor fought Diego, that would actually be a good fight for Conor to get tuned up. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| You don't get that in MMA. And that's Conor's thinking. | ||
| Everyone made fun of him. | ||
| But I think fighters are like, yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| He's trying to get used to the lights, flying, the bust of the stadium, getting used to all those nerves. | ||
| That's what he was doing there. | ||
| And we all made fun of him. | ||
| But I think you notice most fighters didn't make fun of him. | ||
| Fighters were like, yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Well, it's just smart because that's what they've been doing in boxing forever. | ||
| They're doing football. | ||
| In every major sport, we do this. | ||
| That's what they do, man. | ||
| Yeah, but in boxing, you have to fight the mandatory contenders. | ||
| And sometimes those mandatory contenders, they don't really belong in there. | ||
| And everybody's like, but we should be fighting Joshua. | ||
| It should be Fury versus Joshua. | ||
| We've got to make this fight happen. | ||
| And then Fury's like, eh. | ||
| Let me get some rounds in. | ||
| Let me tune this guy up, get under the lights, feel the pressure, and then I'll go there. | ||
| Yeah, let me get some rounds in. | ||
| They know what they're doing. | ||
| They do know what they're doing. | ||
| They know exactly what they're doing. | ||
| Everyone made fun of Conor for it. | ||
| Well, UFC's never going to allow that. | ||
| If you're a superstar, you're fighting top-level fighters because that's where the money is. | ||
| And it's a shame, man, because you're cutting your own tail there. | ||
| Because you could have really melt Conor out, dude. | ||
| Diego, Nate Diaz, and then he fights for a title. | ||
| Alright, let's imagine that Dana White dies in a fiery plane crash, and they call you up like, look Dana, Dana was a great promoter, but Brandon Schaub, you make a lot of sense. | ||
| And we'd like to reformat the way we do things, and I think you should be the new head of the UFC. My life's too good to take on that job. | ||
| Be a beast. | ||
| But I would definitely do things different as far as that stuff. | ||
| Do you think that would be possible to to keep the same revenue models? | ||
| Because they're making a lot of money. | ||
| We're gonna make more money, dude, because we're gonna drain Connor for everything that we can out of him. | ||
| He's fighting Diego. | ||
| He's fighting Nate Diaz. | ||
| Then he's fighting this guy. | ||
| Do you know what kind of resistance they would have if Conor McGregor fought Diego Sanchez? | ||
| All the fucking athletic commissions would be like, no. | ||
| Oh, get out of here. | ||
| I fought Roy Nelson. | ||
| I had two fights. | ||
| He had 30. That's true. | ||
| But that was a long time ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You think now? | ||
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Oh, you think Abu Dhabi gives a flying fuck? | |
| Abu Dhabi does not give a flying fuck. | ||
| It's the Wild West, baby. | ||
| Do they even have... | ||
| Have you ever heard of a commission out there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I mean... | ||
| What do they have over there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We're going to do it on a boat if we want. | ||
| Yeah, they could do it on a boat. | ||
| They're talking about it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| They're talking about Joshua Fury on a boat. | ||
| Like an aircraft carrier? | ||
| Yeah, big-ass boat, and then only having the lead of the lead pay for tickets, and tickets are like 25 grand apiece. | ||
| But what if the water gets rocky? | ||
| Real Lionheart shit. | ||
| What if the water gets rocky, and you're moving around, and it's just like... | ||
| You're making too much sense. | ||
| Hey, you want to see the fight or not, dude? | ||
| How fun would it be if they're all rocking back and forth? | ||
| It should be so crazy just for historic purposes. | ||
| Just for the historic... | ||
| Well, we gotta look at the weather, the calm waters. | ||
| We gotta talk to some real fucking sea guys, you know? | ||
| Yeah, but you have to have the people out there, too. | ||
| You have to have an audience. | ||
| So if you're gonna have to have an audience, like, they gotta know where to go. | ||
| Like, you can't just tell me you're gonna tell me where to go when you know where the fucking sea's gonna be, calm, bitch. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| You want the fight or fucking not, Joe? | ||
| You're making too much sense here, dude. | ||
| It's happening in Gangs of New York. | ||
| I was just watching it. | ||
| Leonardo DiCaprio's character figured out, like, move offshore. | ||
| You'll be fine. | ||
| Just fight there. | ||
| What did they do in Gangs of New York offshore? | ||
| They were fighting. | ||
| They were doing all sorts of fighting and betting and all sorts of shit. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a part you don't learn about. | ||
| I don't remember that movie. | ||
| I haven't seen that movie in so long. | ||
| Oh, The Butcher? | ||
| I loved it when I saw it. | ||
| Have you ever seen a photo of the real Bill the Butcher? | ||
| Oh, there's a real guy? | ||
| Bill the Butcher? | ||
| Yeah, there's a real Bill the Butcher. | ||
| Have you ever seen it, Jamie? | ||
| Mm-mm. | ||
| Did Daniel Day-Lewis win an Oscar for that? | ||
| God, it's fucking good. | ||
| He certainly should. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if he did. | ||
| He lost a drawing, I guess, right? | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| It was a photograph. | ||
| No way. | ||
| It was a photograph of... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The real Bill, did he... | ||
| I got it, I guess, but that's... | ||
| You got it? | ||
| Doesn't make sense. | ||
| Let me see if you got it. | ||
| Yep, that's him. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's the real Bill the Butcher. | ||
| Yeah, that is the real guy. | ||
| I mean, look at his fucking top hat and shit. | ||
| And that was from the Bowery Boys in New York City. | ||
| Dude, New York City was literally like a wild west town at one point in time where they really did have wars where they fought each other with axes and fucking giant knives and shit. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Yeah, like all that shit was real. | ||
| Well, that's going to be my next tattoo. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Bill Cutting. | ||
| That was his name. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, look at the photo of him in the lower right-hand court right there, Jamie, with the hat. | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| Look at that face, man. | ||
| That's some style to him. | ||
| Don't you wear that hat all the time? | ||
| You gotta figure their hats were stinky. | ||
| They always wear hats all the time, right? | ||
| They take it off, they're all sweaty. | ||
| If you were a baller, you wore a hat back then. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Like, if you were a gentleman, like, think, he's got a butcher's robe on. | ||
| Show the full picture again below that, Jamie. | ||
| They wear a lot of suits, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So look at this. | ||
| He's got this butcher's robe with a meat saw and a cleaver and a knife that's strapped to his waist, and he's got a top hat on. | ||
| Like, he's out at a formal gathering. | ||
| Like, how strange. | ||
| You're slinging dick. | ||
| William Poole, a.k.a. | ||
| Bill the Butcher, in 1850 in New York City. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wild shit, man. | ||
| I had no idea that was a real guy. | ||
| It's a real guy. | ||
| Yeah, that movie was at least loosely based on reality. | ||
| You know what I saw in another movie that's loosely based on reality I watched the other day while I was working out is The Revenant. | ||
| Oh, fantastic! | ||
| How good that movie is! | ||
| And Leonardo DiCaprio wins a fucking Oscar for not speaking. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You're giving the award for that? | ||
| All the movies? | ||
| God, it was good. | ||
| When that bear eats some ass first. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All the battles with the Indians. | ||
| How did Tom Hardy not win an award? | ||
| God, he was fucking good in that. | ||
| He's good in everything. | ||
| He's good in Venom, which is a goofy movie. | ||
| You know, he only did Venom because of his kids. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, he's like, my kids don't watch my movies. | ||
| They're too serious. | ||
| So when I got a Marvel thing, they were like, Dad, Venom's awesome. | ||
| He's like, really? | ||
| He didn't even know what it was. | ||
| And they're like, you should do it. | ||
| He's like, all right, I'll do it. | ||
| Just to make his kids happy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, that's cool. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah, that's badass. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| He's fantastic. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You ever see the videos of him training for Warrior? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I heard he was on a bunch of Juicy Juice. | ||
| Oh, he had to be. | ||
| The funny thing is, do you ever look at the YouTube channel More Plates, More Dates? | ||
| No. | ||
| More Plates, More Dates is an interesting channel. | ||
| He's a meathead chemist. | ||
| A brilliant guy who's also a meathead. | ||
| And he breaks down a lot of stuff with guys using tests. | ||
| Oh, sick. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I mean, he's real honest about stuff. | ||
| He's honest about his own use, steroid use cycles and stuff like that. | ||
| But he's got these... | ||
| He was breaking down these video clips of Tom. | ||
| That's him. | ||
| Great hair. | ||
| Yeah, and there's Tom Hardy. | ||
| That's what he used to look like. | ||
|
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Holy shit. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| Remember when he did the Bronson? | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He was juicy for Bronson. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, he goes through it. | ||
| This guy, Derek, from More Plates More Dates, goes through his whole career, like how he started getting thicker, and then all of a sudden, right before Bronson, and then here he is in Bronson, he got pretty thick. | ||
| But then in Warrior, literally looks like... | ||
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Holy fuck. | |
| But now go deeper into it when you see him in Warrior. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There was that one photo of him. | ||
| Holy fuck, dude. | ||
| Like, look at the size of those fucking traps. | ||
| Like, look at him there. | ||
| Like, come on, dude. | ||
| I mean, he's... | ||
| I don't think he's denying it, though. | ||
| No. | ||
| If Hollywood called me and was like, hey, Brennan, won't you be Batman? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you gotta put on 40 pounds of muscle? | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| Send your guy over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Every Monday, inject me in the ass. | ||
| They don't deny it. | ||
| They just don't talk about it. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| It's kind of like Mr. Olympia. | ||
| We all know what's going on. | ||
| Here's a perfect example. | ||
| When Christian Bale went from the machinist, when he was literally starving himself to death, he was dying. | ||
| I mean, it's like an awful movie, but a crazy physical transformation. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The only one that's close to it... | ||
| He's actually the greatest physical transformation, I think, ever for a film. | ||
| And the other second one is Matthew McConaughey. | ||
| Dallas Buyers Club. | ||
| Dallas Buyers Club. | ||
| Very close. | ||
| No! | ||
| He's getting... | ||
| He's getting body shamed. | ||
| What you need to do with him is... | ||
| Camille, you need to see what he used to look like. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| He's probably the biggest transformation in the history of... | ||
| My favorite is social media. | ||
| Yeah, that photo right there. | ||
| Like, right there with the striped shirt. | ||
| Upper middle. | ||
| Like, look. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| Yeah, look what he used to look like. | ||
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Nuts. | |
| Look what he looks like now. | ||
| They did that. | ||
| That's why he said that the Marvel team paid for everything. | ||
| Of course they did. | ||
| That's what we're doing. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He could have done it without the Marvel team. | ||
| He would just have to pay for it. | ||
| He's got money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they couldn't have done it without steroids. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| He's in his 40s. | ||
| First of all, if you are in your 40s, it is very difficult for you to gain mass like that. | ||
| And I think it's funny that on social media they're like, oh, this is white privilege at its finest. | ||
| You guys respect Thor, and you respect the white man who plays Batman, but as soon as the Indian guy does it, you guys accuse him of steroids. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We know they're on steroids. | ||
| We're saying he's on steroids too. | ||
| This isn't a race thing. | ||
| This is what people do. | ||
| Here's the issue. | ||
| The issue was nerds were mad that he used to be a nerd and now he's jacked. | ||
| He's a dying piece. | ||
| And then also, he fucked up because he made a tweet that toxic masculinity is like, he made a tweet about the disease of toxic masculinity. | ||
| And then someone put that tweet right next to a picture of him looking all juicy, juicy. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| But what is toxic masculinity? | ||
| It's being an asshole. | ||
| There's no toxic femininity either. | ||
| It's being an asshole. | ||
| You're being an asshole if you're a woman. | ||
| You're being an asshole if you're asexual. | ||
| Trans, whatever it is. | ||
| You're just being an asshole. | ||
| You can be jacked and be a nice guy. | ||
| There's a lot of really nice guys that are jacked. | ||
| It's a silly thing. | ||
| It's not toxic masculinity. | ||
| It's shitty human behavior. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Yeah, with him, it's not a race thing. | ||
| We called out Chris Hemsworth, The Rock. | ||
| Everyone gets it. | ||
| They're all juicy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Rock is so juicy. | ||
| And why not? | ||
| And he's one of my favorite people ever. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| The best. | ||
| But he's on steroids! | ||
| Of course he's on steroids! | ||
| But if you're The Rock, why wouldn't you be on steroids? | ||
| Listen, man, I am so open about my hormone use. | ||
| I'm so open about testosterone replacement, human growth hormone. | ||
| And because I am, I feel nothing. | ||
| It doesn't bother me at all. | ||
| What are you going to say? | ||
| I have no feeling. | ||
| I'm not hiding it in shame. | ||
| No, I celebrate it. | ||
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53! | |
| Look at that, son! | ||
| I bet your wife loves it. | ||
| Yeah, you're jacked. | ||
| Dude, I lift weights every day. | ||
| I'm always working out. | ||
| How's that dick working? | ||
| My body works great! | ||
| Everything works! | ||
| You have small balls, though, huh? | ||
| No, they're okay. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Small balls? | ||
| Look at the size of them. | ||
| I mean, but why not? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Dude, wait till I get on that same shit you're on. | ||
| Wait till I fuck you. | ||
| Well, you did it for a little bit. | ||
| Why'd you stop? | ||
| TRT? Yeah. | ||
| My face, I got moon face. | ||
| Well, that's just food. | ||
| Yeah, but my body didn't react well to it. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| At all. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got like really big, but not like cool big. | ||
| My clothes didn't fit, my neck was all fat, and I was sweating all the time. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| I was like snapping on people. | ||
| Was your body... | ||
| Maybe you were taking too much, man. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Who was giving you this shit? | ||
| Doctor. | ||
| What did the doctor say? | ||
| All you want. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just take a fucking full syringe. | ||
| Do whatever you want, man. | ||
| I'll send what you need. | ||
| I don't need it, though, right now. | ||
| I'm good right now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm on a diet. | ||
| My energy's good. | ||
| My dick works. | ||
| Oh, my dick didn't work either. | ||
| What? | ||
| Dick was... | ||
| It didn't matter if you put... | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Dick did not work. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| While you were on testosterone? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| It does, though. | ||
| It does, though. | ||
|
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Why? | |
| Because your body, the way it reacts, your testicles shut down. | ||
| So... | ||
| Also, my sperm count, there's a few guys that TRT and testosterone, synthetic testosterone, destroys your sperm count. | ||
| So my wife was trying to get pregnant, and I was on TRT, so I had to go jack off in a cup. | ||
| So embarrassing. | ||
| Jacked off in a cup. | ||
| Holla. | ||
| They're like, if you're over here, and here's the VHS with the porn. | ||
| I was like, bitch, it's 2020, dude. | ||
| I got a phone. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, hey, let's get out of here. | ||
| They have like a porn collection? | ||
| Oh, dude, a whole catalog. | ||
| At the Jackoff place? | ||
| Yeah, just old bushes and fucking nightmare. | ||
| So I used my phone. | ||
| Anyway, jacked off into the cup. | ||
| And yeah, they're like, yeah, you have no sperm. | ||
| And the doctor goes, you're on TRT. I was like, you fucking tell me, Doc. | ||
| He's like, yeah, whatever, dude. | ||
| Your sperm's not working. | ||
| So did you get on clomiphene or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, to do all that stuff. | ||
| Right, to just reboost your testosterone production? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What about, like, what is that stuff called? | ||
| HCG? HCG, yeah. | ||
| Use some of that, inject some of that. | ||
| And that, it just jacks up your testosterone production, right? | ||
| Yeah, I used all that to get back and then... | ||
| I feel good, man. | ||
| I'm just trying to get lean. | ||
| I don't want to get bigger. | ||
| You're doing a lot of biking, right? | ||
| Tons of biking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You really like that, huh? | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Obsessed with it. | ||
| Better for your knees than running. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Healthy diet, a lot of biking. | ||
| I just get, like, my trainer came over the day and we're hitting mitts. | ||
| I'm just, I did it for so long for, like, for real. | ||
| So I'm just like, why am I doing this? | ||
| Yeah, I'm like, what is this? | ||
| You know? | ||
| So biking's just new. | ||
| I can listen to podcasts or, like, books on tape. | ||
| I just fucking go, man. | ||
| It's an interesting thing that happens with a lot of fighters where after they're done fighting, the idea of training, fight style training, it just seems so like that's a job. | ||
| I don't want to fuck with that. | ||
| I need a mission. | ||
| I need a reason why I'm doing it. | ||
| You should fuck with yoga. | ||
| I did yoga for a long time. | ||
| I like yoga. | ||
| But biking, it's just- You can't do yoga at a studio in LA anymore because of communism. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| Thanks, North Korea. | ||
| Yeah, we can't do anything. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| LA's rushing with a beach right now, man. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| What do you think they're going to do about LA? So I don't think it's going to bounce back. | ||
| You're crazy. | ||
| You keep saying that. | ||
| I'm right. | ||
| No. | ||
| Let's put a bet. | ||
| Well, let's bounce back. | ||
| Listen, I'm a homebody. | ||
| Listen, I hope everyone opens up and all the businesses are saved. | ||
| As long as you open the economy store, the improv, the Laugh Factory, Nice House, and I can go there at night, the rest of the stuff, do what you want, man. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But there's no traffic right now. | ||
| But all the restaurants are gone. | ||
| Postmates. | ||
| What are they going to get it from? | ||
| Their house? | ||
| They're going to cook you up some pancakes and put it in a fucking styrofoam cup? | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| It'll bounce back, dude. | ||
| I think it's going to be a long time, son. | ||
| There's not enough money. | ||
| The people that all had these small businesses, that all had these restaurants, like, where are they going to get the money to start back up again? | ||
| It's going to be dicey. | ||
| That's why our taxes are high. | ||
| And that's why we need the brother that you showed and the Indian dude. | ||
| Get on it. | ||
| Team up together. | ||
| I think he's from Sri Lanka. | ||
| What'd I say? | ||
| Isn't he from Sri Lanka? | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| What'd I say? | ||
| Indian? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sri Lanka. | ||
| Yeah, I think California's got a long fucking road. | ||
| But I think it's good for the other country to get some Californians and spice it up. | ||
| Just as long as they don't fuck up their politics. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| Because Texas is a purple state, brother. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you go around Austin, like, you know. | ||
| This is blue. | ||
| You gotta watch your words here. | ||
| It's blue as fuck here. | ||
| Is it blue now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is pretty blue. | ||
| Austin's always been blue. | ||
| Which is weird to move and then vote the same way from where you moved from. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Learn from your fucking mistakes, dude. | ||
| You people and your fucking freedom. | ||
| You don't know any better. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| We need regulation here. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| But that's what people do, you know? | ||
| People think they know better. | ||
| Dude, I went to Mar-a-Lago when I was doing Palm Beach. | ||
| Did you really? | ||
| I just wanted to see where Trump was at. | ||
| So I drove down there, and I didn't know it was a club. | ||
| I thought anybody could go in there. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| So me and my brother, we went to Lamborghini. | ||
| Figures Lamborghini would get us in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We go to Poland, and the guy's like, there's security everywhere. | ||
| Like, high-level security. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder why. | ||
| And he goes, name? | ||
| And I go, Brendan Schaub. | ||
| And he goes, okay. | ||
| Fighter and the Kid? | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, come on, dude. | ||
| Below the Belt? | ||
| On Showtime? | ||
| Food Truck Diaries? | ||
| What are we doing here, man? | ||
| A million things. | ||
| A million things. | ||
| Ridiculousness. | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| Rogan? | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| Nothing, dude. | ||
| And he's like, are you a member? | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
| And he goes, oh yeah, this is membership only. | ||
| And I go, okay. | ||
| Well, how much is a member? | ||
| I figured, can I get a day pass? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| $250,000. | ||
| $200,000. | ||
| Ooh, that was close. | ||
| 200 grand. | ||
| 200 grand. | ||
| And I went home, sad, because I couldn't get in. | ||
| Went back to my shitty Airbnb. | ||
| My brother booked it. | ||
| Not my fault. | ||
| You go to this shitty Airbnb, and I looked it up. | ||
| You get every fucking... | ||
| It's worth every penny. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That place looks fantastic. | ||
| What do you get? | ||
| You don't have to live there. | ||
| You don't want to be a member and live in L.A. No. | ||
| Do the Palm Beach Improv once every year and go down to Tomorrow Logo. | ||
| No, you don't want to do that. | ||
| It's pretty dope, though. | ||
| Do you golf? | ||
| No. | ||
| Too slow. | ||
|
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What the fuck are you doing? | |
| I just want to hang out. | ||
| I just want to see what all the fuss is about, dude. | ||
| There's no fuss about Trump. | ||
| Like the President of the United States? | ||
| No, the former President. | ||
| The President of the United States is Joseph Biden. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Joseph. | ||
| Josephs are balling these days. | ||
| Someone has to tell him he's a president. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, wait, what? | ||
| Really? | ||
| I won? | ||
| Like, dude, we keep telling you, man. | ||
| I'm a senator? | ||
| No, man. | ||
| So, yeah, but think about it. | ||
| Our tax-paying dollars kept flying Trump from the White House to there for a reason. | ||
| So if he's the President of the United States, he can't live anywhere. | ||
| He's living there. | ||
| So I had to check it out. | ||
| So I looked up homes around Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Jesus Christ, dude. | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| Dude, nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't want to live there. | ||
| There's no energy, but... | ||
| Well, that's West Palm Beach. | ||
| Is that what that area is? | ||
| Yeah, that's a very wealthy area. | ||
| What does that say? | ||
| What does the title say? | ||
| Picture. | ||
| What does the title say? | ||
| Let me scroll up there. | ||
| No, there it goes. | ||
| Donald Trump returned to Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Take a look inside his exclusive resort the public never sees. | ||
| Yeah, and he can't get in. | ||
| So he's back there partying at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| What do you think he does now? | ||
| Watches CNN and just talk shit. | ||
| Give me some pictures. | ||
| So he bought it, I think, for... | ||
| He bought it for $8 million in 1985. It's worth $300 million now. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Smart business adventure. | ||
| Well, he could pay that off. | ||
| All of his debts he's going to have when they come for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What a waste of time. | ||
| They're coming for him. | ||
| What a waste of time. | ||
| Hey, let's move on. | ||
| Let's not waste our tax. | ||
| Yeah, they're coming for him. | ||
| They're coming for him. | ||
| There's a bunch of people that want to make their name on prosecuting him. | ||
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Because you didn't let Joe Exotic out? | |
| You could have let that guy out. | ||
| Do you let Kodak Black out? | ||
| But you let my boy Joe Exotic out? | ||
| It's kind of weird, right? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Why didn't he pardon Snowden? | ||
| Why didn't he pardon Julian Assange? | ||
| Yeah, it's very strange. | ||
| Those are the two big... | ||
| That's the big boy moves. | ||
| That would have been cool. | ||
| But there was apparently a lot of resistance to him, pardon Snowden. | ||
| A lot of resistance. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| I think pardon Snowden would be the ultimate. | ||
| And Assange, too. | ||
| Both of them. | ||
| That's the ultimate. | ||
| If he really hates the system, you really hate the intelligence community, you really hate the widespread spying on the American people. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder why he did it. | ||
| Oh, he's probably worried about the repercussions. | ||
| Like, he probably is hedging his bets in terms of, like, what they're going to prosecute him for. | ||
| Well, I think the raiding of the Capitol really scared the fuck out of him. | ||
| Like, you're on the hook for this, Bubba. | ||
| And he's like, oh shit, I was going to pardon Snowden. | ||
| Like, well, he can't now. | ||
| Yeah, he fucked up with that. | ||
| That is one of the classic last days in office fuck-ups that will go down in history. | ||
| But it kind of defines who he is in terms of like how the kind of power that he tries to wield. | ||
| With his followers? | ||
| Yeah, try to tell people you got to show them strength, you know? | ||
| You know what the prom is though, and listen, I'm not super pro-right or pro-left, but the prom is that gets those people represent the right now. | ||
| Those crazies. | ||
| That's not all Trump follows. | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| It's a real problem because they can use it to diffuse real, honest criticism of left-wing ideas. | ||
| You know, you could lump someone in with those people that tried to storm the Capitol. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| There's some legitimate conservatives, never-Trumpers, guys who know David Fromm. | ||
| There's a bunch of these guys who are really interesting, conservative intellectuals who had no desire whatsoever to be attached to... | ||
| Any of Trump's ideas. | ||
| And they're like, he does not represent conservatism. | ||
| But now, they look at people like that. | ||
| Anyone who's on the right. | ||
| You're the enemy. | ||
| You're the enemy. | ||
| You're silencing them. | ||
| You're wearing a fucking Viking helmet on, and you're shirtless and living with your mom. | ||
| Man, what was the agenda there, man? | ||
| They're like, we got in! | ||
| Being a loser. | ||
| Dude, how about the one... | ||
| That fucking chick, man. | ||
| The one that got shot in the neck. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Imagine you're their parent. | ||
| You're like, wait, why did she get shot on the neck? | ||
| Well, right in the White House. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| Have you ever seen that lady's rants? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's tough. | ||
| Unhinged rants that didn't make any fucking sense about all kinds of things. | ||
| She was a mother. | ||
| Was she a mother? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the biggest disappointment. | ||
| People get wrapped up in these online communities, man. | ||
| These QAnon communities and these online right-wing communities. | ||
| And they really think that they're patriots. | ||
| They really think that they're the new tea party. | ||
| They're the people that are going to fix this country. | ||
| They also think social media is real. | ||
| Social media is the end-all be-all for them. | ||
| The world is so much bigger than just that. | ||
| They say 1 in 10 people are on social media when you walk down the street. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| 1 in 10. It's only 1 in 10? | ||
| 1 in 10. Really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| How do the other people find out about your shows? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Confirm that, Jamie. | ||
| As time goes on, I think we're going to find more and more that it's really unhealthy to be on social media. | ||
| It's really unhealthy. | ||
| I got a new phone and it doesn't have any apps on it. | ||
| I have no apps on my phone. | ||
| I'm the same. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I used to have them in a folder called Addict, but then I would just go to that folder. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, yeah, because you're an addict. | ||
| I just go, I don't care. | ||
| I just want to go stare at things and scroll mindlessly through people's feeds. | ||
| Yeah, I was on social media too much, and then I was on my phone watching YouTube or something like that, and then my son's like, Dad, get off your phone, and he's four. | ||
| I'm like, oh, shit, this isn't good. | ||
| You're four, and you realize I have a problem? | ||
| So I got off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And my heroes growing up and whatever guy you look up to in comedy when you got into it didn't have social media, man. | ||
| You know, they didn't have those influences. | ||
| Well, they would have if they had it. | ||
| But I'm just saying back then they didn't, you know, and it's probably a good thing. | ||
| Chappelle doesn't have shit. | ||
| He doesn't use anything. | ||
| He has an Instagram account that they set up for when he released that video showing how he was being taken advantage of by a Chappelle show, being on all these streaming networks, and then they wound up pulling those streaming... | ||
| I mean, it really worked. | ||
| It was almost gangster moves ever. | ||
| I mean, it was an incredibly effective move, right? | ||
| He puts up this heartfelt 20-plus minute video of him... | ||
| Being funny, but being honest and breaking down what happened and how they kind of took advantage of him. | ||
| And then the streaming sites all took his video down. | ||
| That's the power of Dave Chappelle. | ||
| He's the GOAT man to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the greatest alive. | ||
| I mean, if you want to talk about the impact. | ||
| Of a comic, because he's not just impactful as a great stand-up comedian, and clearly he goes down, you know, historically as one of the greatest of all time as a stand-up comedian, but also he had the best sketch comedy show ever. | ||
| That show only lasted two seasons, and pound for pound, laugh for laugh, it's the greatest sketch comedy show of all time. | ||
| Speaking of power, you know, think of Kevin Hart, who's probably the most well-known comedian on the planet. | ||
| You know, as far as ticket sales goes, he's the most successful of all time. | ||
| Most successful tour of all time. | ||
| Yeah, he does like 40,000 seat arenas. | ||
| Football stadiums and shit. | ||
| Yeah, he did Soldier Field in Chicago, for God's sakes. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| He filmed his thing in Philadelphia. | ||
| 40,000 people came to see him to film a special. | ||
| He's in Jumanji, for fuck's sakes. | ||
| So, you know, he launched a new show. | ||
| And this isn't Kevin Hart. | ||
| He has a team. | ||
| He launched a new show called Inside Jokes. | ||
| And he posts on social media like, hey, coming to I forget what network, Inside Jokes. | ||
| And Schultz, who's been doing a show for, I think, four years called Inside Jokes on YouTube, millions of views. | ||
| Same concept. | ||
| Tweets to him, goes, hey, Kevin, did you not look into it? | ||
| I've been doing this show for however many years. | ||
| It has millions of views. | ||
| It's already taken. | ||
| Guess she got sick of sitting in an ice bath. | ||
| Because he has that ice bath show. | ||
| And Kevin responded back. | ||
| He was like, dude, I know in your world this seems like I did it on purpose. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| My team's looking into it. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| We're going to change everything. | ||
| Pretty dope. | ||
| Well, Kevin is a great guy. | ||
| He would never do something like that on purpose. | ||
| Somebody probably came up with it. | ||
| His team did. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| You know, I remember when there was a real issue at the Comedy Store because late night talk show writers would come in and they would watch people do stand-up and then steal their jokes. | ||
| Take the ideas. | ||
| And then guys would wind up doing those bits in their sets. | ||
| And I know that that's happened to... | ||
| There's more than one I want to even name any names of hosts but more than one host Whether they knew it or not, was doing stolen material. | ||
| They probably didn't know. | ||
| They might have known. | ||
| They might not have known. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think they knew. | ||
| I'd assume a team, though. | ||
| It was a giant issue. | ||
| It was a giant issue with certain sketch shows that they were stealing people's acts and then making sketches out of those shows. | ||
| Speaking of stealing, did you see Carlos Mencia on Bobby Lee's show? | ||
| I did not. | ||
| It is riveting. | ||
| I called Bobby when I got done with it. | ||
| Because, you know, I wasn't around the comedy store in comedy when that was going down when you guys had the issue. | ||
| I saw that he was on it, and I watched, like, a few seconds of it, but I was like, oof. | ||
| It's pretty fucking entertaining. | ||
| And Bobby, you know, he goes at him, man. | ||
| He's like, you definitely stole some stuff, man. | ||
| And, like, you need to apologize for it. | ||
| He's like, well, I don't know if I did. | ||
| He's like, no, no, no. | ||
| You definitely stole some stuff, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you just see Carlos side from it. | ||
| Again, I only know one perspective, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And just hearing Carlos' side, again, I was in there. | ||
| I have no fucking clue what happened. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| You know, Carlos is like, the problem is, like, I'm not on the internet. | ||
| I'm not on social media, really. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| Well, he's saying, like, he doesn't really have a voice on there. | ||
| It's an Instagram page. | ||
| Yeah, but not, you know, he's not doing it. | ||
| You know, he's older. | ||
| He's on it all the time. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| Yeah, it's not true. | ||
| Well, he's saying from, like, this, again, yeah, you're probably right. | ||
| Well, he's just not popular. | ||
| Yeah, he just hasn't adapted with the times. | ||
| He's been stuck at a certain number of Instagram followers for years. | ||
| I don't even know how many followers he has. | ||
| But he's saying he wasn't able to get his narrative out and apologize to the people. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| No, I mean, he's come up with a bunch of different versions of why he is not at fault. | ||
| And Joe, I'm not defending him at all. | ||
| I'm just saying it was super interesting because I only know your version, Ari's version, Bobby Lee tells me all these stories. | ||
| I've heard all these stories. | ||
| I've never had any interaction with them. | ||
| He's got a few different versions. | ||
| One of his versions is I've recorded all my shows since 1993, and if I ever stole a joke, I would go back and say, listen, I can show you that I did it before you, or if I did, I'm sorry. | ||
| He's trying to find a way to excuse what everybody knows he did. | ||
| What he was doing was copying other people's material, copying premises, and he was doing it openly. | ||
| There's a video from a show that was like this documentary they did where he admitted it. | ||
| He actually said, yeah, I copy it. | ||
| It's like what a rapper remixes it. | ||
| Yeah, I think Patrice O'Neill posted that when he was a live detox show and was like, he admits it here. | ||
| He goes, yeah, I stole those jokes. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen that. | ||
| Now he says that, you know, now he said he didn't. | ||
| Now he says, you know, he comes up with a difference. | ||
| Look, the guy has been tortured. | ||
| You know, that's the sad thing. | ||
| It's like, how much does the man deserve? | ||
| How much punishment does he deserve for what he did? | ||
| He's probably still not stealing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what he's doing. | ||
| I know he does like two and a half hours on stage. | ||
| But here's the thing that does happen to comics, and this is where it's really weird. | ||
| Comics that steal, they have a really good beginning of their career. | ||
| And then they get called out for stealing. | ||
| And then they try to not steal. | ||
| And the contrast between their early material when they were stealing and the new material when they're not stealing is fucking... | ||
| Stark. | ||
| It's staggering. | ||
| We can name them right now if we wanted to be mean. | ||
| Some of them have done specials recently. | ||
| Do you want me to do it? | ||
| You don't have to. | ||
| But it's brutal. | ||
| The difference is fucking brutal. | ||
| And that difference is because they were plagiarizing. | ||
| They were taking other people's premises. | ||
| They were doing it on purpose. | ||
| And some of them, they've been real calculated about it, like threatening the comedians they stole from, sending DMs to them. | ||
| Or text. | ||
| Or text messages, making them real uncomfortable. | ||
| Put pressure on them. | ||
| Putting themselves in these protected categories or saying they're part of certain movements that, you know, like, I've not known for you to be helping this movement. | ||
| Like, you know, you're talking about this movement on stage and then stealing their premises and stealing their bits. | ||
| Like, there's some dark shit that goes on. | ||
| It catches up with them, to your point. | ||
| Like, there's specials or dog shit. | ||
| Specials or dog shit. | ||
| And that's where you know. | ||
| There's a thing with comedy that happens. | ||
| There's a bunch of things that can happen once you become successful and then you continue to make specials. | ||
| One of them is you kind of run out of stuff to talk about or you spend 10 years developing your first set And then you have to do another set afterwards. | ||
| It's just not as good. | ||
| Or you can't relate to the people. | ||
| You're so famous that your material's not relatable. | ||
| Those are both big factors. | ||
| Kevin Hart's pretty good at that. | ||
| Well, he's smart. | ||
| He's also very ambitious, and he hires a lot of writers. | ||
| And he's also very... | ||
| He's a very honest person. | ||
| You're good at it, too? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I work hard. | ||
| I work hard. | ||
| And I'm fucking ruthless on myself. | ||
| I'm a very self-critical person. | ||
| I think a lot of those people that we won't mention, a lot of them. | ||
| They're really actors. | ||
| They're acting like comics. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| What they really are is they're attention whores. | ||
| They really want attention in any way they can get it. | ||
| And they've chosen stand up for their vehicle or their venue. | ||
| And they may know their avenues and they come back to comedy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the difference is so obvious. | ||
| And that's one of the, if you know, look, people, they, you know, It's hard for bands to maintain top performance. | ||
| Like, a lot of bands, they start out and they have a bunch of good albums and their albums start to suck. | ||
| It happens with comedians. | ||
| They get real famous. | ||
| They get soft. | ||
| And then the other problem is their audience loves them. | ||
| So they can kind of do anything and they go out there and the audience loves them. | ||
| And the material suffers. | ||
| That's why Steve Martin quit. | ||
| Have you ever read that book, Born Standing Up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said he went out there and he had this like ukulele thing and it would come down and one night it came up but it fucked up and so the bit... | ||
| There's no bit. | ||
| He had to have it but the audience was laughing right away and he's like, oh, oh fuck, I'm done. | ||
| He's like, it's not even the material anymore. | ||
| They're laughing at whatever the fuck I do now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he stopped doing it. | ||
| Stand-up comedy in some ways is... | ||
| In some ways, there's a parallel that you can make to martial arts. | ||
| How so? | ||
| In that, if you don't put the real work in, when the time comes to perform, it shows. | ||
| There's a ceiling. | ||
| Again, there's a ceiling. | ||
| Because to your point... | ||
| If you don't put the work in, you're going to get to a certain level where you're playing to your crowd. | ||
| They think everything's funny. | ||
| You're like, man, I'm fucking killing it. | ||
| Then you're going to go to the comedy store where it's not your crowd. | ||
| You've got to do real jokes, not references of your famous buddies or to this where people don't know you. | ||
| You've got to do real jokes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You fucked me. | ||
| You gotta do jokes for people that aren't your fans. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That's the difference between maybe sparring with people that are in your camp that maybe know how good you are to fighting someone who doesn't give a fuck and they're trying to kill you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then you see how much work you've really put in. | ||
| It might not be the best comparison in the world. | ||
| That's a pretty good comparison though. | ||
| Especially from the world we come from. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The comparisons are all like, you can't not work. | ||
| You have to put in the work. | ||
| And the work is uncomfortable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't mean to interrupt you. | ||
| But to your point, though, it's like if you're a wrestler and you got to a certain point where the takedown is working every time, every single time, and then you get to a guy where that takedown is not going to work. | ||
| And if you didn't work on those skills where if the wrestling doesn't work, where you got to find other ways to beat them, you're not going to have a career, man. | ||
| You lose three and you're out of the fucking UFC working at Starbucks. | ||
| So you got to put in the time for that other stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good analogy. | ||
| And I bet that exists in almost every endeavor. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That there's certain things you don't like to do. | ||
| They're uncomfortable. | ||
| You know, like how many guys do we know that are like really good strikers? | ||
| They don't want to go to the ground because they don't want to get tapped. | ||
| So they don't train on their ground game. | ||
| And then they wind up getting in a situation where they're on the ground... | ||
| And, you know, they get tapped. | ||
| Didn't you tell me that Justin never, Justin Gaethje never trains jiu-jitsu? | ||
| Not a lot. | ||
| When we were training, you know, I don't want to add him or nothing. | ||
| But now when we trained, he just, he was just like, you know, his, I think his mindset was, because I'm such a good wrestler, I can, I'm not going to learn the leg locks and the arm marches. | ||
| I'm just going to learn how to defend what they're going to do and get back to my feet. | ||
| That was his process. | ||
| As savage as that guy is. | ||
| One of the best. | ||
| Imagine how good he would be if you fully embrace submissions. | ||
| Well, to your point, look what happened when he got to Khabib. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Where it's like, oh, you're going to get lost if we go down there? | ||
| Two times. | ||
| I'm going to take you down there, bro. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it also seemed like Khabib kind of maybe wanted to do that and get it done in that way. | ||
| Inverted triangle? | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| A stubby Khabib did an inverted triangle? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| From a mount. | ||
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Nuts! | |
| Yes. | ||
| Nuts! | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| At that level? | ||
| Yeah, well, Khabib is just such a monster. | ||
| I don't think we really even know how good he is. | ||
| I don't think he's been pushed. | ||
| And that's why he quit! | ||
| I think he quit because of his mom, right? | ||
| I think he quit, A, because of his mom, but he did want to get to 30-0. | ||
| He promised dad 30-0. | ||
| But I also think he's just like, I'm not getting up. | ||
| What are you going to toss me? | ||
| What do you got for me? | ||
| I want to see Justin versus Dustin Poirier again. | ||
| Gaethje and Poirier again. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| I'd love to see that. | ||
| But I want to see them each get a win and then do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's where my tournament comes into play. | ||
| Charles Oliveira might be the motherfucker, dude. | ||
| He might be the motherfucker. | ||
| You know what's weird too? | ||
| Yeah, Charles Olivares is a motherfucker. | ||
| He might be the motherfucker. | ||
| I would say he's the most dangerous out of everybody. | ||
| He's so talented. | ||
| In all aspects, he's so talented. | ||
| His ground game is off the charts. | ||
| His ground game, striking, his reach now, his distance, his footwork, his mentality, bad motherfucker. | ||
| Going back to Conor, he said something, he said, this loss doesn't feel like it usually does. | ||
| He can't walk. | ||
| And he got knocked out. | ||
| I'm sure physically that hurts, but also he's like, I'm not as obsessed as I should be. | ||
| When I hear that, I'm like, ooh, that's not good. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| What did he mean by that, you think? | ||
| Maybe he put it in his all, and he just lost, and he doesn't feel like he left anything on the table. | ||
| Yeah, that's fine. | ||
| So maybe he says, okay, we're going to dust ourselves off and make the adjustments. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| In that case, maybe it's a good thing that doesn't hurt him. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| Look, the guy is wealthy beyond imagination, right? | ||
| Most successful fighter of all time. | ||
| Yeah, not just from fighting, but also proper 12. I mean, that whiskey company is fucking killing. | ||
| He's made hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| Crush that whiskey company. | ||
| Is it better than Tiger Thicke? | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| Carry on. | ||
| I've never had Proper 12. Have you had it? | ||
| Yeah, someone brought it over. | ||
| My brother-in-law brought it over for the fight. | ||
| I said bring whiskey. | ||
| He brought them. | ||
| I'm like, all right, dude. | ||
| What'd you spend, $30? | ||
| Is it bad? | ||
| No, it's not bad. | ||
| You get what you pay for. | ||
| If you're a real whiskey drinker, it's not bad. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It's not bad whiskey at all. | ||
| It's a clean whiskey. | ||
| It's not Josh Barnett's Warbringer, Warmaster. | ||
| I've never had that. | ||
| I've heard it's fantastic. | ||
| But just based off Josh's label, yeah, probably Josh is better. | ||
| It's fucking good. | ||
| It's interesting because he's got no financial motivation at all. | ||
| None to fight. | ||
| He's fighting for enjoyment, for legacy, to push himself, to test himself. | ||
| Obviously looked in tremendous shape. | ||
| I saw some of the training footage. | ||
| I talked to people that saw him train and they were saying he is in fucking tip-top magoo for this fight. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But listen, those low calf kicks are a game changer. | ||
| But here's my problem with that, Joe. | ||
| That's nothing new. | ||
| It's not new, but it's new in Conor's career. | ||
| If you go to early Conor's career in 2014 when he fought Dustin, no one was throwing those low calf kicks. | ||
| In 2014, but this day and age... | ||
| Except Benson Henderson. | ||
| Yeah, Benson. | ||
| I think Benson was the... | ||
| Actually, we've got to give him credit. | ||
| He's probably the first to do it. | ||
| And we kind of make fun of him. | ||
| Remember he was jabbing the quad and throwing those low kicks? | ||
| You're like, what the fuck's he doing? | ||
| But his low kicks didn't have the same kind of effect for some reason. | ||
| Different animal. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the way... | ||
| Like, Justin's the best at it. | ||
| Justin Gaethje, in my mind, for my money, is one of the best leg kickers that's ever fought in the sport. | ||
| He destroys people's legs. | ||
| Michael Johnson's leg, he destroyed Khabib's leg. | ||
| Khabib's leg was in all kinds of trouble in that fight. | ||
| It's just Khabib's fucking force of a champion, that mind. | ||
| He just pushed through it. | ||
| The fact that Khabib fought that fight with a broken toe, too. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| I mean, he's just such an unusual monster of a man. | ||
| But... | ||
| Justin Gaethje, he chops everybody's legs apart. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| And he's so good at being tight in the clinch. | ||
| And getting away with it. | ||
| And then chopping leg kicks down from a clinch. | ||
| So he's tying you up. | ||
| He's got like an overhook and he'll leg kick you. | ||
| And he learned that kicking from a boxing coach in Trevor Whitman. | ||
| You know, so it's like, what the fuck is going on? | ||
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It's amazing. | |
| Yeah, that's how talented he is. | ||
| Go back to his World Series of Fighting fights. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| He fucked dudes up with that. | ||
| Oh, my God, dude. | ||
| Destroyed people's legs. | ||
| But, you know, again, to me, it's Connor not being active. | ||
| Like, those kicks, dude. | ||
| Again, it's nothing like we're like, oh, we've never seen that. | ||
| But yes, but no. | ||
| Because Conor fights in that wide stance. | ||
| He puts a lot of weight on his front leg. | ||
| And he's looking to tee off on you with a big left hand. | ||
| He keeps his right leg out. | ||
| And the problem with that is Dustin's a fucking southpaw. | ||
| So it's right there. | ||
| It's right there for him. | ||
| Because of the southpaw to southpaw stance. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| But also, if you're Conor, you've been doing so much boxing, those leg kicks, it's not going to be a thing, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just not, you know, you're not that conscious of it. | ||
| You're not really working on the muscle memory. | ||
| I think he's just got so much confidence in that fucking piece. | ||
| He did rock him. | ||
| He did rock him. | ||
| He's got so much confidence in that left hand. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I don't know what his motivation is, right? | ||
| Let's assume he has the same motivation for another fight as he had for this fight. | ||
| He's not going to fall for the same... | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| So it's going to be interesting to see, can he compete with the top echelon of the sport? | ||
| Is he going to be motivated to get himself in shape to compete with the top echelon of the sport? | ||
| He can get his body in the best shape possible. | ||
| To me, it's all here for Conor. | ||
| We know he has the skills to beat anybody in the world. | ||
| It's here, man. | ||
| Farasa Hobby thinks he quit. | ||
| Faras Ahabi thinks that when the going gets tough, Conor finds a way to fold. | ||
| And he said, you know, once his leg was hurt, he just sort of folded against the side of the cage. | ||
| It's hard to argue with Faras. | ||
| I don't know if Conor has quit in him, but listen, if I have that much money in the bank and there's a yacht waiting for me outside, it's probably like, all right, let's get out of here. | ||
| Imagine if he won, though. | ||
| Pulls up in a yacht and then starches everybody. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And that's what I was hoping for. | ||
| When he's sitting there meditating on the yacht. | ||
| I mean, get the fucking out of here. | ||
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How cool does that look? | |
| You see that fucking yacht? | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| How much does a yacht like that cost? | ||
| They had to lend him that. | ||
| Oh, I don't believe so. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| He didn't go broke if he bought that yacht. | ||
| He has two yachts, according to Dana. | ||
| That's a bad idea. | ||
| Dana and I were on the phone yesterday and he told me Connor just bought a Lamborghini yacht. | ||
| That's not smart. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| Conor McGregor splashes out $12 million. | ||
| $12 million on a superyacht and pays cash. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Since the bout ended. | ||
| Oh, after he got fucked up. | ||
| Oh, Floyd Mayweather. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is after he lost to Floyd Mayweather. | ||
| Since the bout ended, the 29-year-old has been living it up on the party aisle of Ibiza with his family, enjoying good food, renting a lavish villa, lounging in the Mediterranean sunshine, oh, and splashing out on a $12 million super yacht in cash. | ||
| Yeah, but look at that other yacht. | ||
| Estimated between $360 and $400 million. | ||
| That's how you go back. | ||
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| This is an eye-opening level of opulence to witness firsthand, he posted, referring to sailing yacht A, a vessel valued at $360 to $450. | ||
| I bet you he doesn't know that. | ||
| When I was in Italy, I was there, and Steve Jobs' yacht was there. | ||
| If you're Steve Jobs, get a yacht. | ||
| Steve Jobs is dead at the time. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He's already dead. | ||
| So somebody else had it. | ||
| Maybe his family. | ||
| Steve Jobs' yacht is basically an Apple store. | ||
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What the fuck is that? | |
| It's so weird looking. | ||
| That's Steve Jobs? | ||
| No, this is the one that has $350 million. | ||
| That's college? | ||
| Oh, that's the $350 million. | ||
| That's a four seasons. | ||
| That's preposterous. | ||
| Oh, that's a sailing boat. | ||
| Look, it's got sails. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| That is sails. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. | ||
| And then you gotta pay for the staff. | ||
| That is so dumb. | ||
| Seems like a bad idea to spend your money. | ||
| I hate to brag about my rich friends, but I have a rich friend that has... | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| That'd be fun as fuck. | ||
| That's the sailboat? | ||
| It'd be fantastic. | ||
| Pretty cool. | ||
| Joe buys a yacht. | ||
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Bro. | |
| Dude buys a yacht. | ||
| Podcasts on a yacht sounds like a lot of fun. | ||
| That's a fight on a yacht? | ||
| I have a friend who actually bought a yacht. | ||
| So odd. | ||
| This is the weird world that I live in now. | ||
| You have a different group of friends. | ||
| And this friend that bought a yacht, I was going, well, who drives them? | ||
| He goes, there's a full-time staff. | ||
| They live on the yacht all year round. | ||
| They're there all the time. | ||
| Do you have to pay their salary? | ||
| I go, what? | ||
| He goes, they have all year round. | ||
| Yeah, they live there. | ||
| They're on his yacht right now. | ||
| I go, so it's their yacht. | ||
| I go, it's like if you have a house, and there's a bunch of people partying at your house, and they're cleaning up right before you come in. | ||
| Yeah, that's what's going on. | ||
| And you smell other people's farts in your sheets. | ||
| Some dude's bringing girls back to that yacht all the fucking time. | ||
| I don't think people are banging chicks on your bed. | ||
| Every port? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, come on, dude. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Are you counting all the liquor you got in there? | ||
| Because I bet a lot's gone. | ||
| Yeah, so he pays full-time for the staff. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, what are you talking about? | ||
| You have a full-time staff. | ||
| Different level. | ||
| But I go, couldn't you just rent a yacht when you wanted to? | ||
| You have money, and then they take care of all that shit? | ||
| Isn't there a service? | ||
| That'd be smart, right? | ||
| It seems like a better way to go. | ||
| You don't have to think about it. | ||
| But he has so much money. | ||
| He's like, listen, I don't know, dude. | ||
| Why ask so many fucking smart questions? | ||
| He's a very wealthy businessman, my friend. | ||
| And he just said, well, I didn't think about it before I bought the yacht. | ||
| Does his name rhyme with Elon Dusk? | ||
| No, he doesn't have a yacht. | ||
| Elon doesn't even have a house. | ||
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That's ridiculous. | |
| He doesn't want to own houses. | ||
| He's selling all his houses. | ||
| He rents houses. | ||
| He succumbed to fucking social media pressure. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Yeah, he was talking about it. | ||
| He's like, oh, you guys want to talk shit about my three houses? | ||
| I'm going to sell them. | ||
| It's like, all right, dude. | ||
| Still rich as fuck. | ||
| Still going to talk shit about your money. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, dude, just get a house. | ||
| He is now the second richest man in the world. | ||
| I don't know how he's going to deal with it. | ||
| I don't know what he's going to do. | ||
| Jeff Bezos has surpassed him. | ||
| How'd Jeff Bezos pull it off? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| That wasn't the GameStop. | ||
| See you. | ||
| Nuts, dude. | ||
| Sailing Yacht A is the largest sailing yacht in the world by a lot. | ||
| A sailboat, right? | ||
| But there's other yachts that are big. | ||
| Can you just show me a picture of Conor McGregor's yacht? | ||
| And Dana said he owns them? | ||
| He owns two. | ||
| He bought that one, and then he bought a new one that's a Lamborghini yacht. | ||
| We know boats are a bad investment, Bubba. | ||
| But he's like, dude, you know how much whiskey I'm fucking selling? | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| Different level, man. | ||
| So that's his $14 million yacht. | ||
| It's the Lamborghini one, it says. | ||
| That's the Lamborghini one? | ||
| 300 foot Lamborghini super yacht. | ||
| He's painted yellow. | ||
| Wow, look at that thing. | ||
| Did you see what Floyd said about Conor? | ||
| No. | ||
| He was saying how it's racism at its finest because we celebrate Conor spending money and acting all extravagant, but then he gets hated on for acting the same way. | ||
| And then he said, this is my favorite part, he goes, and the worst part is the hate's from my own people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, then it's not racist. | ||
| How do you not have someone proofread your shit, dude? | ||
| Well, that's not going to work, Bubba. | ||
| Well, listen, Floyd is a brilliant marketer, and he's probably saying this to get a lot of attention, and it probably gets him a lot of attention. | ||
| But ultimately, Floyd's whole persona was about being a baller. | ||
| Floyd Money Mayweather. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen, if you go back to Floyd's early days, Floyd was Pretty Boy Floyd. | ||
| And Floyd was... | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| Much more aggressive. | ||
| Different fighter. | ||
| Trying to stop people and beat... | ||
| Look, there's no disrespect to Floyd Mayweather. | ||
| He's one of the greatest of all time. | ||
| But one of the smart, if not the... | ||
| But one of the smart things that he did was later in his career, he fought much more defensively, but everyone wanted him to lose. | ||
| So he realized like, hey, I can take less damage, box defensively, beat all these motherfuckers, have everybody paying to see me lose, and then I make all the money. | ||
| He's brilliant. | ||
| He's the most brilliant boxer ever because he's the guy that when you look at his career, over 50 fights, undefeated, and was only hit hard three or four times. | ||
| His whole career. | ||
| His whole career. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| Never dropped. | ||
| Never really fucked. | ||
| Was he dropped? | ||
| No. | ||
| He wobbled. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Never dropped. | ||
| Never dropped. | ||
| No. | ||
| And, you know, beat the best of the best. | ||
| Beat everybody. | ||
| But shut Canelo Alvarez down. | ||
| Canelo was 21. You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Still. | ||
| Young Canelo. | ||
| Smart business decision. | ||
| He was just amazing. | ||
| Canelo runs the game now. | ||
| He does run the game now. | ||
| He's pound for pound number one on my list. | ||
| How about him knocking out Kovalev? | ||
| How crazy was that? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Kovalev is a legit 175 pound champion. | ||
| Seeing Canelo knock him out. | ||
| Boxing is kind of popping right now. | ||
| It's kind of popping. | ||
| Especially in the lightweight division. | ||
| How about the heavyweight division? | ||
| There's so much craziness going on. | ||
| How so? | ||
| Well, just trying to figure out the Fury-Joshua fight? | ||
| And Eddie Hearn said that's going to happen. | ||
| He said that a million times. | ||
| And White is going to fight Deontay Wilder, but Wilder still wants to fight Fury in a third fight. | ||
| And that's not happening. | ||
| The wilder stuff made me so sad. | ||
| It bums me out, man. | ||
| His excuses, it's like, oh man, I've never seen someone deal with a loss worse than Deontay Wilde. | ||
| I love Deontay Wilde. | ||
| I've worked with him several times. | ||
| Fantastic human being. | ||
| He's a great human being. | ||
| Great dude. | ||
| And a really fun guy to be around. | ||
| I wish I was close to him while it was going on. | ||
| Yeah, I'll text him. | ||
| What are you going to say? | ||
| Don't say that. | ||
| Don't say that. | ||
| This is what people are going to think. | ||
| Even if you believe that, you can't believe he had egg weights in his hands. | ||
| You can't believe that. | ||
| No, dude. | ||
| There's no way, first of all, a guy punches that fast with egg weights in his hands. | ||
| And then the other bummer is he fired his team. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| He fired Breland, right? | ||
| Bummer. | ||
| That is a bummer. | ||
| What is he doing now? | ||
| Who is he training with? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| I hope they figured it out. | ||
| When a guy loses like that after just starching everybody, it's got to be like a world changer. | ||
| To our point that we talked about earlier, and this is, you know, could be dicey. | ||
| You remember, he started boxing late. | ||
| 24? | ||
| There's a ceiling, man. | ||
| And his ceiling was high, but there's a ceiling. | ||
| Then you run into a guy like fucking Fury who can... | ||
| Do it all. | ||
| Footwork, can move, can punch. | ||
| He can be a defensive fighter, a pressure fighter. | ||
| So when Wilder had that right hand from God, which is one of the greatest right hands of all time, if not the greatest right hand of all time, when a guy can negate that and has seen that in his career, you run a guy like Fury, this is what happens. | ||
| I think the blueprint was established in the 12th round when Tyson Fury got up. | ||
| When Tyson Fury got up, weathered Deontay Wilder's onslaught, but then started winning. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| And won the rest of the round, and even had Deontay in trouble at one point in time. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And then in the rematch, he goes, oh, you can't fight going backwards? | ||
| Oh, well, I've been doing that my entire career against Eastern Europeans and the amateurs. | ||
| So if I put you on your back foot, you can't fight? | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| And fucked him up, dude. | ||
| Fucked him up. | ||
| Now, if you don't have those skill sets, if your only skill set's going forward throwing the right hand, again, to your point, the ceiling's here, man. | ||
| Now, his ceiling was here, but you're going to run into somebody who would negate that. | ||
| Even the way Deontay reacted to the first knockdown, like, he was complaining that he got hit behind the head. | ||
| He was, like, upset. | ||
| Like, what happened? | ||
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I know. | |
| It's almost like he can't believe he's losing. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You know, have you ever seen a person that does that, whether it's a video game or playing pool or ping pong? | ||
| Some people can't believe they're losing. | ||
| Like, you fucking did something. | ||
| You did something wrong because I lost. | ||
| This can't be me. | ||
| I know. | ||
| This is a thing that people do when they're not used to losing. | ||
| Especially that guy. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| Who was like, I'm going to try out box at 24. Took the world over. | ||
| Got a bronze medal in the Olympics. | ||
| A year and a half in the training. | ||
| Fucking nuts, dude. | ||
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Nuts. | |
| Never happens. | ||
| And then starches everybody. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Even Ortiz. | ||
| Luis Ortiz. | ||
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Twice. | |
| The greatest, I would say, up until that fight with Fury, the second fight with Fury, the greatest knockout artist in the history of the sport. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| He's all knockouts. | ||
| All knockouts. | ||
| Stiverne was the only guy who made it to the distance, and then he starches him in the rematch. | ||
| And what he did to Stiverne, he should have been arrested for. | ||
| Dude, I was ringside when he fought Brazil. | ||
| Showtime flew me and my brother out. | ||
| Oh my god, that knockout. | ||
| But they sat me next to Brazil's family. | ||
| And it was like, when he was walking out, you're like, oh, dead man walking. | ||
| And his whole family was like, he's going to do it. | ||
| And they have shirts on. | ||
| I'm like, oh, these poor people have no idea what's going to happen. | ||
| That was after the Tyson Fury fight, right? | ||
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| It was in between. | ||
| Dude, it sounded like a shotgun went off at the fucking Barclay Center. | ||
| Isn't it funny how those long, thin guys can generate so much power at the end of the punch? | ||
| Like Tommy Hearns when he was in his prime. | ||
| So many guys. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Listen, I'm still a giant Deontay Wilder fan. | ||
| I love Deontay Wilder. | ||
| I hope he gets it back together again. | ||
| I hope he proves everybody wrong and starts fucking people up again. | ||
| Bomb squad! | ||
| That always scares me when he does that. | ||
| Dude, when he was on top, he was a motherfucker. | ||
| No one can stay on top forever, but let me tell you something. | ||
| When history goes and looks at the career of Deontay Wilder, it's an extraordinary, extraordinary career. | ||
| Even if he retired today, even if he said we're done, he's an extraordinary career. | ||
| And a great human being has so much more living to do. | ||
| And the fact that he became a boxer because he needed to generate money because his daughter was sick. | ||
| Fantastic story. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| How can you not root for him? | ||
| How could you not root for him? | ||
| And then Joshua vs. | ||
| Fury. | ||
| Eddie Hearn. | ||
| Take my fucking money, bro. | ||
| Do you hate money? | ||
| Do it on the ship! | ||
| Can I fly in a COVID bubble all the way over to London and watch that? | ||
| Sign me up, dude. | ||
| Can you put me in a balloon? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| What do I have to do? | ||
| I mean, I'll go there and not wear a mask. | ||
| I'll let everybody spit in my mouth. | ||
| Joshua vs. | ||
| Fury's site fee will be biggest money in heavyweight history. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| So are they trying to do it in a full arena? | ||
| Where are they doing it? | ||
| I don't think they've announced yet. | ||
| Depends on COVID, but there's been talk that they're going to do it on a boat. | ||
| Go to Miami. | ||
| Go to Miami. | ||
| It's an option, apparently. | ||
| Miami's an option? | ||
| Florida. | ||
| Of course it is. | ||
| No, do it at the Wembley, man. | ||
| Florida doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Both Brits. | ||
| Yeah, but the Brits don't care. | ||
| They'll fly over to Florida. | ||
| Now you know the Brits. | ||
| Florida Airlines. | ||
| Florida Airlines. | ||
| We don't give a fuck. | ||
| Cough, take a shit in the aisle. | ||
| Bring an alligator. | ||
| Bring an alligator. | ||
| Come on, I'm bored. | ||
| What's interesting about that is with Fury and Joshua, the Brits are going to side with Fury. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah, he's going to have more support than ever. | ||
| But Joshua's a huge star over there. | ||
| He is. | ||
| Fury's the biggest star now. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Deontay Wilder knockout? | ||
| The Deontay Wilder knockout. | ||
| Him not piping down about his mental illness. | ||
| The people rally behind him. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Joshua, because he lost to Ruiz, and the media kind of turned on him, he's like, dude, I don't want to claim England anymore. | ||
| I want to fight out of Africa. | ||
| I'm African. | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| When did that happen? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Was he born in Africa? | ||
| No. | ||
| Both his parents were born in Africa, and then they got a divorce, moved while his mom was pregnant, moved to England. | ||
| He was born and raised in England. | ||
| When he was like six or eight, he did some schooling. | ||
| He went back to Africa for like a year, did schooling, and then came back to England. | ||
| Born and raised in England. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| But he wants to claim Africa because he doesn't like the way the English media treats him. | ||
| After the Ruiz fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said everyone kind of hated him and jumped off board. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He can't read those social media accounts. | ||
| That's sports, Bubba. | ||
| That's how it goes. | ||
| That's sports. | ||
| But it's also that sets up the stage for your retribution. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Your rise back to the top of the heap. | ||
| Fury's my favorite fighter of all time. | ||
| MMA, boxing. | ||
| I fucking love Fury. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| Tell you what, man, very few people would have made that kind of adjustment in their style to fight a completely different style in a rematch against a power punch like Deontay Wilder. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Just come right at him. | ||
| And it was also interesting that he started training with Sugar Hill from the Kronk Champ and developed that sort of like Kronk style. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like super aggressive, you know, knockout focused style. | ||
| Insane, dude. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| That's fun, man. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| The big fight for me right now, too, though, is Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford. | ||
| I don't know if you're going to see it, dude. | ||
| I've got to see that fight. | ||
| I don't understand why that fight's not happening. | ||
| Boxing 101? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a fucking nightmare. | ||
| Yeah, they're talking about Ryan Garcia fighting Manny Pacquiao. | ||
| Have you seen that? | ||
| Yeah, I'm not into it. | ||
| I don't think Ryan's ready. | ||
| No. | ||
| Thank God you agree with me. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| After he got dropped, I was like, oh my goodness. | ||
| By Luke Campbell? | ||
| Yeah, oh my goodness. | ||
| He's not ready for Manny Pacquiao. | ||
| And then he won Tank Davis. | ||
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| And I did a food truck with Tyson, and it was the same day they had Ryan Garcia on. | ||
| And Mike's like, oh, I just had Ryan on, and we had Tank Davis zoom in, or FaceTime in, and they were talking shit to each other. | ||
| I went... | ||
| Well, Mike, that's not a good fight for him. | ||
| He's like, if he believes he can do it, you know, Muhammad Ali. | ||
| I'm like, what are you talking, Muhammad Ali? | ||
| Yeah, I guess that's an example of Muhammad Ali. | ||
| Ryan Garcia ain't being Tank Davis, dude. | ||
| He's not ready. | ||
| Gervonta is a ruthless puncher. | ||
| He's ruthless. | ||
| He's ruthless. | ||
| And he'll find your fucking chin. | ||
| He will find your chin. | ||
| That guy's good. | ||
| I had that Teofomo Lopez on, who's the champ, who beat Lomachenko. | ||
| He's the motherfucker of the division. | ||
| Notice nobody's calling him out. | ||
| No! | ||
| That's what he said on my show. | ||
| That comes out in two weeks. | ||
| And his dad was with him. | ||
| I love his dad. | ||
| His dad just took over the interview. | ||
| But his dad was like, no one's calling my son out. | ||
| Name one person who's called him out. | ||
| Go, Brendan. | ||
| I'm like, no one. | ||
| He goes, why do you think that is? | ||
| He was calling all each other out, but not my son. | ||
| Did you see what Gervonta posted on Twitter after Oscar De La Hoya was saying they're going to set up a fight with Ryan Garcia? | ||
| And he goes, is Oscar on coke again? | ||
| How about Oscar trying to fight Triple G? You know how insane that beating would be? | ||
| And then your boy Bernard Hopkins goes, I think Oscar would beat him. | ||
| Hey Bernard, I know he's your business partner. | ||
| Do your fucking coke friend a solid here and let him know this isn't smart. | ||
| Maybe he knows it'll never take place. | ||
| Or maybe he knows that Oscar needs that money. | ||
| In the world we're living in, dude. | ||
| It might. | ||
| Maybe Oscar fucking snorted all that money. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I see him training. | ||
| They lost Canelo. | ||
| Canelo's not with Golden Boy anymore. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| Yeah, that's real. | ||
| When did that happen? | ||
| Probably three or four months ago, he's out. | ||
| How did he lose Canelo Alvarez? | ||
| Canelo just didn't want to fuck with him anymore. | ||
| That's why hopefully Canelo comes to showtime. | ||
| You think Canelo was just tired of the bullshit? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| And DAZN, because DAZN was a fucking mess, still is. | ||
| Because of the lack of funds coming in from ticket sales and shit. | ||
| And they promised him all this money and they weren't paying him. | ||
| He's like, I'm out of here, dude. | ||
| And who do you want me to fight? | ||
| And Canelo wants to fight Earl Spence. | ||
| He wants to fight everybody. | ||
| And then we're not offering those fights. | ||
| Yeah, but he's down to cut. | ||
| He's down for whatever. | ||
| He wants to fight the who's who. | ||
| He wants to go down as the best. | ||
| And DeZone's like, well, we can't get those guys. | ||
| So he's out. | ||
| So where's he going to go? | ||
| He's a free agent right now. | ||
| I know Showtime's in negotiations with him. | ||
| When is the best boxer in the world ever a free agent? | ||
| I mean, when you sign with DAZN, I don't know what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| By the way, how fucking good and how juicy did Triple G look in his last fight? | ||
| I know. | ||
| He looked a little juicy. | ||
| A little juiced up. | ||
| Look a little juicy. | ||
| And I'm a fan of that. | ||
| I'm a fan of that, too. | ||
| Look, he's fucking 37, 38 years old. | ||
| How old is he now? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| How old is Gennady Golovkin? | ||
| 39? | ||
| Jesus, you gotta be juicy. | ||
| Because he looked shredded. | ||
| I mean, he looked physically as good as he's ever looked. | ||
| Canelo's not into the rematch. | ||
| I'm sorry, the trilogy. | ||
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Really? | |
| I wonder why. | ||
| It's a tough fight, man. | ||
| Tough fight. | ||
| It's a tough fight. | ||
| He definitely lost one of those fights. | ||
| Yeah, he lost the first one. | ||
| He lost the first one. | ||
| I felt like you lost the first one. | ||
| Do you see Triple G? Is that what he looked like? | ||
| That's a weird photo. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| It says, Rips Canelo Alvarez. | ||
| This third fight will eventually happen. | ||
| Yeah, but he's fucking 40. See if you can go with a video of his last fight. | ||
| Who the fuck was his opponent again? | ||
| Who was his opponent again in his last fight? | ||
| See if you can find the record. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How do you say that name? | ||
| Can I make that larger again so I can read it? | ||
| Camille Saramita? | ||
| Saramita? | ||
| Beat the brakes off this dude. | ||
| See if you can find that online. | ||
| Because when you look at his body online, it doesn't look like a 38-year-old boxer who's had more than a decade into the career. | ||
| Yeah, highlight. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at, like, physically. | ||
| Okay, he's 38 and he's fighting a dude who's 31. I mean, he just put it to this fucking dude and looked as good as he's ever looked. | ||
| Had incredible endurance. | ||
| He looked great physically. | ||
| His muscle tone. | ||
| Like, everything. | ||
| He looked on fire. | ||
| I mean, he was picking that dude apart and eventually stopped him. | ||
| This was vintage Gennady Golovkin. | ||
| And I think he probably tried to stay natty for a long time. | ||
| Yeah, but then age is just like, father times the K, bro. | ||
| Yeah, if you find a really shredded guy who's pushing 40, who all of a sudden bounces back. | ||
| This is an argument that Faraz Ahabi had used for someone who... | ||
| In UFC? Fitch in Bellator. | ||
| He's saying, you look at the guy, all of a sudden he's making this resurgence and his body looks better and he's in his 30s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of people that think you should be able to do it. | ||
| There's a lot of people that think that... | ||
| To a certain level. | ||
| Bring your levels up to a certain level so you're not just royally fucked. | ||
| But you would just allow fighters to continue their career this way. | ||
| And then there's other people that think, no, because it leaves too much room for cheating. | ||
| And what is cheating? | ||
| Are you allowed to do ice baths? | ||
| Are you allowed to do saunas? | ||
| Are you allowed to do hyperbaric chambers? | ||
| Are you allowed to do... | ||
| What are you allowed to do? | ||
| Are you allowed to take supplements? | ||
| Okay, how many? | ||
| How effective are these supplements? | ||
| What do they do? | ||
| Do you see USADA's not going to test for marijuana anymore? | ||
| Yeah, they sent it to me directly. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I got an email. | ||
| Like, hey, can you please talk about this? | ||
| I'm like, who gives a fuck, dude? | ||
| Also, the commissions don't obey by those same protocols. | ||
| They don't? | ||
| No. | ||
| So California and Nevada, if you smoke and weed and they test and you test positive, they're going to ban you. | ||
| Oh, are they really? | ||
| Yeah, they don't go by... | ||
| It's not an overall... | ||
| That's just USADA and UFC's agreement. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| So if you go to Florida, Nevada, California, you test positive for marijuana, to them it's still illegal. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| So essentially USADA's not testing for it when they catch you. | ||
| If they do like a 6 in the morning raid on Nick Diaz's house. | ||
| Yeah, you're fine. | ||
| So Nick Diaz is supposed to be fighting in 2021 as well, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I guess. | |
| Isn't he supposed to come back? | ||
| That's what they say, but then Dana was like, it doesn't make sense. | ||
| Why doesn't it make sense? | ||
| Dana was like, he's been out for so long, it makes no sense for him to come back. | ||
| He's like, I don't think we're going to offer him a fight. | ||
| That's what I thought Dana said. | ||
| Well, he might be saying that because of negotiations. | ||
| Yeah, trying to get him out. | ||
| I'm about to piss my pants. | ||
| Go piss your pants. | ||
| All right, cool. | ||
| Go piss your pants. | ||
| Thanks, dude. | ||
| We'll be right here. | ||
| It takes a while to develop that kind of bladder endurance, son. | ||
| You can't just jump right back into the game. | ||
| You don't know about these three-hour podcasts. | ||
| I don't think anybody should want to see a Nick Diaz fight, but people should want to see a CM Punk fight. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Listen, Nick Diaz is a legend. | ||
| If Nick Diaz wants a fight, I want to give him my money. | ||
| I want to pay to see that. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| Because everything that I've seen from Nick Diaz doesn't look like Nick Diaz wants to do... | ||
| Oh, stop. | ||
| Go back. | ||
| Scroll down to where I was reading. | ||
| Everything I've seen from Nick Diaz seems like Nick Diaz doesn't look like Nick Diaz wants to or is ready to compete in this sport. | ||
| White said of the Diaz comeback reports. | ||
| This sport, even for Jon Jones, as good as Jon Jones is, you have to be 100% mentally, physically, and emotionally ready to train. | ||
| Be ready for this and fight. | ||
| And I just don't think, I don't know. | ||
| Well, that's, John Jones is the worst example that you could say, even as good as John Jones is. | ||
| Because John Jones beat Alexander Gustafson for the title in a five-round war where he literally didn't train. | ||
| That's like the worst example that you could use. | ||
| What'd you do? | ||
| I was trying to look up his Instagram to see. | ||
| I mean, he said he was training on Instagram, and that's why people are talking about it. | ||
| Well, there he is getting his gloves laced up. | ||
| What does it say in that one next to that? | ||
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Nothing. | |
| Just tag people. | ||
| Just him. | ||
| Look, I'm sure he's training. | ||
| I am absolutely sure he's training. | ||
| But that's him putting gloves on his brother. | ||
| Holding pads for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm 100% sure he's training, and it looks like he's training with his brother, so he's getting his brother ready. | ||
| You know, it's a thing. | ||
| It's like, if he fights, people want to see it. | ||
| He is Nick Diaz. | ||
| He's a legend. | ||
| I mean, the guy's been in the sport. | ||
| I called Nick Diaz versus Robbie Lawler in 2002? | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that's when that fight was. | ||
| It might have been 2003, if I remember correctly. | ||
| So, at the very least, it was 18 years ago. | ||
| He knocked out Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Which is crazy that they're both competing, still. | ||
| Was that 2003? | ||
| Nick Diaz versus Robbie Lawler? | ||
| I didn't go far enough back. | ||
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Robby Lawler, 2004. 2004. So, 17. That was his, like, 10th fight. | |
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| I mean, before that, he had a series of fights outside the UFC. He's been fighting since before September 11th happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Two weeks before that, he had a fight. | ||
| So, he's got a more than 20-year career in combat sports. | ||
| We're talking about Nick Diaz. | ||
| What about him? | ||
| He wants to fight again, allegedly, but Dana White says nobody should want to see a Nick Diaz fight. | ||
| And he used Jon Jones' example. | ||
| He's like, even as good as Jon Jones is, you have to be mentally, physically prepared. | ||
| I'm like, that's the worst example you could ever use because Jon Jones fought Gustafson and beat him in a five-round war with no training at all. | ||
| Yeah, he trained for like two weeks and beat the shit out of him. | ||
| And then didn't train for Ryan Bader and beat him in a round. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He didn't train for Ryan Banner? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
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No? | |
| Those were during the wild days. | ||
| Seems to be chilling out now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| John seems to be into, like, guns. | ||
| He's, like, really into tactical shit and, like, going through, like, these scenarios, these drills. | ||
| Dude, good luck being that guy at heavyweight. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's used to so many faster guys. | ||
| But meanwhile... | ||
| You can't get the hit, though. | ||
| Like, Francis hits you, it's game over. | ||
| For everybody. | ||
| Anybody and everybody. | ||
| Everybody and anybody. | ||
| But Stipe took it. | ||
| But I'd still maintain... | ||
| That was a long time ago. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I still maintain that one of the reasons why DC knocked out Stipe with one punch was not just that there was a punch that nobody saw coming, that he didn't see coming. | ||
| It was because it was a beautiful technique. | ||
| The pummeling and then the landing of the right hand, it was beautiful. | ||
| Caught him clean. | ||
| But also, I think Stipe was damaged from that first Ngannou fight. | ||
| Agree 100%. | ||
| He ate the biggest shots we've ever seen from Francis and kept on keeping on. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| It was a good punch, but we've seen him take worse. | ||
| We've seen him take worse, but it was a punch that he didn't see coming. | ||
| It was the way DC brilliantly utilized the clinch and then landed that overhand right. | ||
| It was perfect. | ||
| But did he limp arm? | ||
| How did he get out of it? | ||
| Out of the exchange. | ||
| It was like in the middle of the clinch and boom. | ||
| I mean, it was amazing. | ||
| It was so perfect. | ||
| And we were so stunned. | ||
| I'm a little worried for Stipe. | ||
| I don't know why we always count Stipe out, but I'm a little worried about just his health and his eye and his back and everything going into this Francis fight. | ||
| Because Francis is foaming at the mouth. | ||
| You've got to be worried about everybody who fights Francis. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| He's just such a monster. | ||
| He's so big. | ||
| And God, you gotta fight the fucking guy, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, make him active. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's happening here? | ||
| Stipe. | ||
| Woke up with that immigrant mentality. | ||
| He listens to Joey Diaz. | ||
| That's a Joey Diaz line. | ||
| That's a Joey Diaz. | ||
| Got that fucking ox blood running through my veins today. | ||
| Let's fucking go. | ||
| He has the support from Mario Lopez. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Let's go, champ. | ||
| Let's go, champ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Speaking of Let's Go Champ, see Shannon Cannon Briggs is training for a comeback? | ||
| Stop. | ||
| He's pushing hard to try to get a fight with Mike Tyson. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Yeah, he was overweight and getting to gym and looking slow, but he's slowly building his way back up, and he's documenting all of it on his Instagram. | ||
| Yeah, Tyson, when I was with him, he was saying, he was like, yeah, I'm going to fight a few times. | ||
| And I was like, oh, Holyfield? | ||
| What else are you going to do? | ||
| He's like, no, there'll be some other guys, so maybe Shannon Briggs is one of them. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, it's the right age limit. | ||
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I mean, Shannon, I think, is 49. Were you a fan of the Tyson-Roy stuff? | |
| It seemed like a gentleman's agreement to me. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Right? | ||
| A little bit don't hit me in the head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit, right? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I'm not that into it, I gotta be honest. | ||
| Well, I gotta admit that my anticipation level was very high. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| I had Roy on the podcast. | ||
| I had Mike on the podcast. | ||
| You really sold that thing. | ||
| And I texted you, I was like, dude, you gotta calm down. | ||
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You gotta calm down, because it's things that gentlemen spend. | |
| Listen, I love both of them. | ||
| I love both of them too, and I'm willing to sell. | ||
| I'm a hype man. | ||
| Yeah, me too, man. | ||
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I'm a fuck-play hype beast. | |
| But I was looking forward to seeing it, man. | ||
| I was watching it in my office like this. | ||
| Couldn't wait. | ||
| Couldn't wait. | ||
| See, I think Jake Paul stole the show. | ||
| Oh, he did. | ||
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Yeah, he did. | |
| By far. | ||
| Well, I mean, he starched Nate Robinson. | ||
| Poor Nate Robinson. | ||
| Starched him. | ||
| I think a lot of NBA players are like, oh, yeah, I want to do it, too. | ||
| And they saw Nate Robinson use a meme for the next fucking two weeks. | ||
| But apparently, Nate took it real well, and Nate jumped in and was laughing at all the jokes and the text threads with other NBA players. | ||
| Oh, good on here, man. | ||
| Yeah, everybody said that he took it real well. | ||
| Took it real well. | ||
| Yeah, the hype of Jake Paul off that knockout is insane. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| Because the boxing community wants to see him lose. | ||
| The MMA community wants to see him lose. | ||
| And now the MMA community has never backed Ben Askren. | ||
| Now they're backing him because they want to see him beat fucking Jake. | ||
| It's brilliant for him, too. | ||
| You want to fight a guy with a big name who really isn't a striker at all. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| In any facet. | ||
| But, see, if Ben had more time, because Ben hasn't really been training, you know, and then Ben had a hip replacement, and then Ben was never really a boxer to begin with. | ||
| Far from it. | ||
| You know, it's like, I really wish he had more time to prepare. | ||
| I agree with you, he's a completely different level of athlete. | ||
| From Nate Robinson, yes. | ||
| Well, and also from Jake Paul. | ||
| In terms of, like, accomplishments? | ||
| Ah, not even close. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| I mean, in terms of, like... | ||
| There's no quitting Ben. | ||
| No quick. | ||
| You're going to have to put his lights out. | ||
| Yeah, and the guy's got incredible mental toughness, but does he have the physical capabilities to box well? | ||
| I got to see what that hip's like. | ||
| I don't even... | ||
| I got to see what the new hip's like. | ||
| I can't say I've ever seen him hit pads. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Yeah, he can move. | ||
| But is there any videos of him... | ||
| I know it burns when Jake Paul takes a pee. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| That's the thing about Ben, too. | ||
| He's the perfect opponent because he talks shit, too. | ||
| But is this a goofy talk shit, too? | ||
| Is there any videos of him hitting the pads? | ||
| Go to Ben Askren Hits Pads. | ||
| You know what's cool is, you know Ben still has fights with the UFC, and he had to call the UFC to get confirmation to take this fight. | ||
| Yeah, they let him. | ||
| Let's see what we got here. | ||
| Let's see his boxing. | ||
| Give me some volume. | ||
| Ew, gross music. | ||
| My man, Duke Rufus. | ||
| What is happening here? | ||
| Someone may have made a training video from some old shit and just re-uploaded it. | ||
| Can I just see? | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| Oh, he's just looking to take people down. | ||
| This is all very old video footage, I believe. | ||
| Just got re-uploaded. | ||
| Is there another video anywhere of him hitting pads? | ||
| I just want to see his hand combinations. | ||
| Can you go to YouTube? | ||
| Just click the videos link. | ||
| Just click the videos link. | ||
| Dude, if you just watched Ben vs. | ||
| fucking Damian Maia. | ||
| Here he goes. | ||
| Give me volume. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
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Mike's been someone I've worked with for a while on TV and a roof of the sport, so we'll be working out a few extra mid-sessions a week to get my hands moving. | |
| And this is preparing for this fight? | ||
| Is this recent? | ||
| No, this is 2019, it's all old footage. | ||
| Probably before his hip got fixed. | ||
| Yeah, he had a really fucked up hip, even when he wrestled Jordan Burroughs. | ||
| Well, you gotta realize, when he got to the UFC, he was pretty compromised with that hip. | ||
| He was also older, man. | ||
| You weren't getting a young Ben Askren in the UFC. No. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He had gone through the ringer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, just years and years of wrestling and the punishment on your joints and just... | ||
| There's no... | ||
| No one gets out alive from wrestling, man. | ||
| That sport, man, everything gets just... | ||
| Eventually, just all the bolts start falling off and the fucking... | ||
| All the joints. | ||
| All wrestlers are pretty fucked up. | ||
| Pretty fucked up, man. | ||
| Shane Carwin's neck back. | ||
| Michael Bisping just went in for a fake disc in his neck. | ||
| And he wasn't even a wrestler. | ||
| He wasn't even a wrestler. | ||
| But, you know, obviously did a lot of wrestling. | ||
| He just posted a photograph from his Instagram of him without the eye prosthesis, too, because you can see what the eye looks like, what his actual eye looks like. | ||
| He was trying to get a fight with these guys. | ||
| He was trying to get a fight with Logan Paul or Jake Paul. | ||
| Everyone was, dude, come on. | ||
| But, I mean, Mike can't even see out of one eye. | ||
| Like, how could he... | ||
| And now it turns out he had to get his disc replaced in his neck and he's still calling out a fight. | ||
| What a game pit bull he is. | ||
| Mike? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| So game. | ||
| One of the best. | ||
| So game. | ||
| Dude, but also, my kid wants to be a fighter, I'll show him fucking Michael Bisman with his eye out. | ||
| Heavy lies the crown, man. | ||
| How did Nick Lentz do in his last fight? | ||
| Because Nick Lentz had a real touch-and-go situation with his eye as well. | ||
| He lost, and they cut him. | ||
| I think you're retired. | ||
| You're retired? | ||
| Did you see Hooker? | ||
| He lost 40% of the vision in his eye. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| He couldn't see, like, couldn't target the moving target. | ||
| And did you say that about this fight in particular? | ||
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| So did he lose the 40% of the vision and he had that way in training? | ||
| But it was that way in training, because I know he had surgery. | ||
| And he took, like, here it is. | ||
| My UFC abruptly retired. | ||
| I lost about 40% of my vision in his eye. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| And he got really beat up in that fight, too. | ||
| They say don't make rash decisions after loss, but this one is not rash or even quick for that matter. | ||
| The injury I suffered to my eyes last year was a career ender. | ||
| I lost a total of 40% of my vision, but I wanted to see what one more hard-fought battle was like with the new eyes. | ||
| It was clear to me last night it's impossible for me to compete at this level anymore. | ||
| I just can't lock onto a moving target like I should. | ||
| And with 40% of my vision practically gone, it's chaotic to the least. | ||
| My life as a fighter in the best organization on the planet ends here. | ||
| I'm not sad or upset by it. | ||
| The day comes for everyone. | ||
| I stand with my head high. | ||
| God as my redeemer and my children and wife as my treasure. | ||
| Fighting gave those treasures and I only ask for a little vision as payment. | ||
| A trade that I would make 100% of the time. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Thank you to my fans, my coaches, my family, and everyone who has been a part of this process. | ||
| Who knows what comes next for the carny, but I can tell you what it's not. | ||
| What a stud. | ||
| He's an animal, man. | ||
| Tough, tough fucking dude, man. | ||
| And really learned and grew in the sport. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| I hate seeing that, man. | ||
| With guys losing vision. | ||
| It scares the shit out of me. | ||
| That's the game, though, man. | ||
| You look at that Spencer Fisher post. | ||
| It's heartbreaking. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| And this is only the start, Bubba. | ||
| This is only the start, because now there's going to be a whole crop of new guys coming out with injuries and brain trauma and vision problems and... | ||
| Well, I'm going to have on the guys from the John Hopkins psychedelic study that are working with the UFC with psychedelic therapy for CTE. The micro dosing. | ||
| The thing about psilocybin, there's something about psilocybin that's one of the rare... | ||
| I don't want to repeat this without it being accurate. | ||
| Psilocybin regrows neurons in the brain. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that studies have shown that psilocybin can actually regrow neurons. | ||
| And it's a very rare thing in that regard because I don't think there's anything else that's been clinically proven to do that. | ||
| So what that can mean is that through, if it really works, it might be something that can actually restore brain function. | ||
| Yeah, they're finding a lot more things. | ||
| That's how I got started on nicotine packets. | ||
| Shout out to Rogue. | ||
| Is that what you do in there? | ||
| I do nicotine. | ||
| Let me see that. | ||
| Because they say nicotine for your brain, especially if you had CTs, it's supposed to be really good. | ||
| Because one thing they found in smokers, almost all of them didn't have dementia. | ||
| And they couldn't figure it. | ||
| They were trying to figure it out. | ||
| It was because of the nicotine. | ||
| All right. | ||
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Dropped all of them. | |
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah, touch it. | ||
| Now, these are little packets. | ||
| What do you do with this packet? | ||
|
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There isn't it? | |
| Put it on your lip, man. | ||
| That's only six milligrams. | ||
| Yeah, it's tasty, too. | ||
| Shout out to Rogue. | ||
| Spons your boy! | ||
| This is good? | ||
| You like this taste? | ||
| I love it, dude. | ||
| I can't get enough of it. | ||
| You can't swallow it. | ||
| Well, you could swallow that, but that'd be a lot harder to swallow than that dip you did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can swallow this. | ||
| You don't spit in this. | ||
| Cowboy gave me a wad of dip. | ||
| Oh, don't do that. | ||
| I put it in my mouth while I was swallowing it. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| No, this one you can swallow. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| Get a little buzz. | ||
| I do this right before I hit the stage. | ||
| You know what I do? | ||
| Cigarette? | ||
| Cigarettes. | ||
| That stuff's nasty. | ||
| Bro, it's like somebody tried to... | ||
| It's like someone tried to... | ||
| It's like when you swallowed the shit. | ||
| Swallowed is way better. | ||
| It's like someone tried to put bubble gum and mix it in with tobacco. | ||
| That's what it tastes like. | ||
| Yeah, I love it. | ||
| That's what it is, right? | ||
| I go through a pack a day. | ||
| Try it, Jamie. | ||
| Give one to Jamie. | ||
| Give one to Jamie. | ||
| I need to know. | ||
| I need to know. | ||
| I need to know if I'm wrong here. | ||
| They're fantastic. | ||
| Bro, I'm just twitching. | ||
| I can't get enough of it. | ||
| This is a guy that just smoked a cigar. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| And I'm like, look! | ||
| Not for you. | ||
| But do you fuck with Nicorette or anything? | ||
| No. | ||
| But I've smoked a bunch of Chappelle cigarettes before I go on stage. | ||
| I do like that before I go on stage. | ||
| That's what I do with this. | ||
| You take four of these, like 30 minutes before I go on stage? | ||
| First time I ever did it, I took one from Hinch Club. | ||
| He's like, don't get addicted. | ||
| I'm like, you're not going to get addicted. | ||
| Dude, you know my whiskey problem started with you. | ||
| We're back at the bar. | ||
| Whiskey problem? | ||
| You mean this awesome practice of enjoying whiskey? | ||
| My life is better on whiskey. | ||
| I think it's fine. | ||
| Doesn't taste bad. | ||
| Isn't it nice? | ||
| That's that rogue mango pouch. | ||
| Everybody's got different taste buds. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| But back to my whiskey issue. | ||
| It started with you at the comedy store. | ||
| You're like, hey, do a shot with me. | ||
| I don't drink before sets, man. | ||
| I gotta be on point. | ||
| You're like, just do a fuck. | ||
| God, come on. | ||
| I do it all the time. | ||
| I'm like, fuck, give me a shot. | ||
| I think it was Jameson or Jack. | ||
| Did a shot, best out of my life. | ||
| I'm like, well, you know, I'm a guy who believes in... | ||
| It gets you loose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't want to be drunk when you go on stage. | ||
| No, God no. | ||
| But a little shot before you go on stage is like, woo! | ||
| Yeah, it just gets the edge off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Firing up. | ||
| I love it. | ||
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I love it. | |
| Yeah, I enjoy it. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| And I drink a lot. | ||
| How much? | ||
| I was drinking probably two doubles a night before I took a break. | ||
| So why do you think it's the TRT that was making your face fat? | ||
| How much were you drinking during that time? | ||
| Your dick wasn't working. | ||
| Hey, I think I might have found another fucking culprit here. | ||
| You're hammering every night. | ||
| You're drinking a fucking ton of whiskey. | ||
| My face got fat. | ||
| Half a bottle. | ||
| I think it was testosterone. | ||
| Half a bottle, bro. | ||
| Half a bottle. | ||
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That's so much whiskey. | |
| I just love it, man. | ||
| I love whiskey. | ||
| I like catching a buzz. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I like catching a buzz at night. | ||
| You know how it is. | ||
| You're doing shows all day. | ||
| And I get home. | ||
| I'm with my kid. | ||
| It's nonstop. | ||
| And I put them to bed. | ||
| And then me and my girl. | ||
| And she doesn't drink. | ||
| I'm like, I'm just gonna have some drinks, man. | ||
| We put on our show fucking Love Island UK season 3. I got my buzz on. | ||
| I got my dip in. | ||
| You know what I've been watching? | ||
| Karate Kid. | ||
| Cobra Kai? | ||
| You're the second person I've heard. | ||
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It's good! | |
| People love it. | ||
| It's so cheesy. | ||
| It's so 1980s. | ||
| Shout out to Todd Feldman, yeah. | ||
| It's so 1980s, but it's good, dude. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| Chappelle just told me. | ||
| He doesn't know fighting. | ||
| We should clarify. | ||
| Chappelle Lacey. | ||
| Chappelle Lacey, yeah. | ||
| Oh yeah, not Dave Chappelle. | ||
| You know when he started doing comedy, they were like, you need to switch your name. | ||
| He's like, but my name's Chappelle. | ||
| Like, I know, but there's already a Dave Chappelle. | ||
| He's like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| My name's Chappelle Lacey. | ||
|
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He's got two names. | |
| It's Chappelle Lacey. | ||
| It's not Dave Chappelle. | ||
| He's the nicest guy, man. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| By the way, what a freak athlete that dude is. | ||
| We've played videos of him doing gymnastics and doing a cheer. | ||
|
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Did you? | |
| Multiple times on this podcast. | ||
| Dude, he'll fucking... | ||
| He's incredible. | ||
| Well, now at the shows, because he's done it so many times, now at the shows they yell at him, his clothes are doing backflip. | ||
| And I gotta follow him. | ||
| Like, what are you doing backflips up there for? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What the fuck are you doing, dude? | ||
| But he doesn't look like a guy who should be able to do a backflip. | ||
| He's like, 240, jacked. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| I told him, I go, dude, the body control that you have, you would be insane at jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know he got into it a little bit. | ||
| Is he still doing it? | ||
| Well, in LA, you can't really do jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Yes, you can. | ||
| You just got to know the right people. | ||
| And I know the right people, but he's not that dedicated to do it, you know? | ||
| Isn't that gross? | ||
| You can't even train. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| How about our boy Eddie, man? | ||
| That's his livelihood. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Liz Chappelle. | ||
| I mean, come the fuck on. | ||
| What a freak athlete. | ||
| And you want to talk about one of the nicest people in the world. | ||
| Oh, he's such a sweetheart. | ||
| And talented and funny. | ||
| Funny as shit, man. | ||
| Just a perfect person. | ||
| Dude, I was going to shut Finding the Kid down. | ||
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I love that, too. | |
| Woo! | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| And I asked Chappelle to do the show. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| It's just, it's so unusual. | ||
| This is the crazy thing when he throws that girl up and catches her. | ||
| Like, you know what kind of power you have to have to be able to do that? | ||
| Dude, he's wider than me. | ||
| He does cheerleading. | ||
| He listens to fucking alternative music. | ||
| He skateboards. | ||
| It's like, dude, okay, man. | ||
| Tell everybody where you guys are playing. | ||
| We're at the Mark in San Marcos, Friday and Saturday. | ||
| Where's San Marcos? | ||
| It's between here and San Antonio. | ||
| It's 20 miles from here. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| There's a lot of spots out here, man. | ||
| There's a lot of spots. | ||
| A lot of places to do comedy. | ||
| I'm coming, man. | ||
| San Marcos for this Friday, Saturday. | ||
| Two shows. | ||
| Is he going to eventually move out here? | ||
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What do you think? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| If anyone's going to get me to do it, it's going to be you. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That's their website. | ||
| That's what it used to look like. | ||
| I bet it will be like that. | ||
| That's probably what San Antonio is COVID-y as fuck. | ||
| That's where you caught it. | ||
| That's where I got it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I knew I was going to get it too, man. | ||
| You know, you wouldn't go in a room and be like, it's pretty COVID-y back here, man. | ||
| That's what I felt like when I went to that show where everybody got it but me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody got it but me. | ||
| Everybody I was with. | ||
| It's dicey. | ||
| And I was like, man, I'm in this green room. | ||
| It's packed with people. | ||
| How you haven't got it yet, I don't know. | ||
| Just get it. | ||
| Quit being a pussy. | ||
| Your boy Dave got it. | ||
| Yeah, he got it. | ||
| And how's he doing? | ||
| No symptoms at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| Same with Rahim. | ||
| Radio Rahim. | ||
| What about Elon? | ||
| No symptoms. | ||
| He had a little bit of a cold. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| He said it was a mild cold. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| But I do have one friend that feels like total dog shit. | ||
| He was throwing up, felt terrible, but then the next day he was fine. | ||
| Is it Michael Yeo again? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| No, Michael Yeo almost fucking died. | ||
| Michael Yeo almost... | ||
|
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How dare you. | |
| What does that mean? | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| They get it weird. | ||
| It started there. | ||
| Wuhan's lit as fuck. | ||
| They say that, but I'm not buying it. | ||
| I'm not buying it either. | ||
| They won't let you fly over there. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's propaganda. | ||
| Holograms. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not buying it either. | ||
| They're like, oh, we're partying out here. | ||
| We figured it out. | ||
| Yeah, no, you're not. | ||
| Meanwhile, there's bodies in the streets and sirens. | ||
| They step outside your house, they machine gun you. | ||
| Yeah, who knows what's going on there. | ||
| They have welded people inside their buildings, man. | ||
| They're spraying fucking disinfectant through the air as they drove down the streets. | ||
| Yeah, but get COVID. You know, like a toilet or some shit for me. | ||
| Just join the club, Jamie. | ||
| Look, Jamie got a cruise here out. | ||
| There's been a lot of people that got COVID. I've been around a lot of people and I never got it. | ||
| Tony got it the same night I was out. | ||
| I was out with him. | ||
| He got it that night. | ||
| Yeah, you're a superhero. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| It's your blood type. | ||
| I have that O positive, that old school blood type. | ||
| That helps. | ||
| But I think it's the vitamins. | ||
| And also sauna. | ||
| I'm in the sauna every day. | ||
| I was in the sauna for a half hour today at 185 degrees. | ||
| Tim Dillon goes... | ||
| Tim Dillon goes... | ||
| He goes, yeah, apparently, because he showed me around his house, he's like, I'm trying to figure out where to put my fucking sauna. | ||
| I'm going to get one. | ||
| Rogan says it kills COVID. I go, I don't know if that's true. | ||
| Tim goes, yeah, Rogan said it. | ||
| Dude, seriously, I don't know if that's true, man. | ||
| Deep breathing. | ||
| See, if COVID lives in your nostrils, good luck, you fucking shitbag virus. | ||
| Shitbag. | ||
| Fucking make it into my nostrils. | ||
| My nostrils, man, when I get that 185 degrees and I get that steam going, I'm like this. | ||
| Dude, you and I have been in a steam room together and I had to get the fuck out, man. | ||
| We're trying to see who broke first. | ||
| I was out. | ||
| Yeah, but that Laird Hamilton guy will beat us all. | ||
| That motherfucker is in there with oven mitts on on an airdyne bike at 210 degrees. | ||
| Very savage. | ||
| He's an unusual human being, man. | ||
| Like, all my friends that went and trained with him at his house in Malibu, they're like, this fucking guy cranks it up to the height. | ||
| He's in the 200s. | ||
| 200 plus degrees. | ||
| Not for me, Papa. | ||
| In the sauna. | ||
| And then does the cold plunge. | ||
| No, I do a hot tub. | ||
| What I've been doing is, because it gets cold here at night, I do the sauna and then I jump in my pool. | ||
| My pool's not heated. | ||
| Oh, so it's cold? | ||
| Oh my god, it's cold as fuck. | ||
| And I did six minutes in the pool one night and I almost didn't make it out of the pool. | ||
| You're that cold? | ||
| I was real worried because no one was out there with me. | ||
| And I was... | ||
| I mean, I made it out, but as I was walking down the pool, I'm like, oh, Jesus, I could barely walk! | ||
| I'm like, full on, shivering. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I got it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, do I swim in my undies? | ||
| Well, I don't. | ||
| Usually, I mean, I just swim in a swimming suit. | ||
| Oh, I don't. | ||
| Not at night. | ||
| Me and my son go in every night. | ||
| We just go in our undies. | ||
| What's the difference? | ||
| Yeah, who gives a fuck? | ||
| If girls are like, yeah, you're in your underwear. | ||
| What the fuck is your bikini? | ||
| Yeah, same shit. | ||
| You don't have shorts on. | ||
| That's my thong, bitch. | ||
| Yeah, what is that? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Girls have the most ridiculous outfits. | ||
| I mean, just the fact that they can wear, like, anal floss and a fucking tortilla chip over your pussy, and you can just go hang around with strangers. | ||
| It's insane, dude. | ||
| And it's fine. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| It's just a thong. | ||
| And the heels. | ||
| And you can literally see your whole ass. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything but your asshole. | ||
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Thank God they do that. | |
| Yeah, thank God they do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Imagine if we had like skirts and you could just lift it up and your hog was right there. | ||
| I was hearing some story about in the 1900s, early 1900s, the pools they used to have back then. | ||
| This place I was hearing about, you had to rent the suit from them. | ||
| Like you showed up and rented your suit there. | ||
| That sounds so fucking disgusting. | ||
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What? | |
| And I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how much disease was getting spread around then. | ||
| Like someone else's swimsuit? | ||
| That's probably where that's a blockbuster for swimsuits. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's probably where the Spanish flu came from. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably came from them suits. | ||
| Well, they had weird suits back then. | ||
| They were wrestling singlets, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't they? | ||
| By weird, you mean awesome. | ||
| They didn't wear shorts. | ||
| No, they wore those weird things. | ||
| The same place I was showing pictures of that, those kids with saggy, little seven-year-olds, the shit was falling off of them. | ||
| They were saying they had a baby elephant that the kids could play with that was just walking around the grounds of this amusement park. | ||
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That sounds fantastic. | |
| I know, and the place got closed down, and I don't know what happened, but it sounds like a whole lot of fun. | ||
| Life was cheap back then, though. | ||
| A little kid would get stomped by an elephant, and they would just bury both of them. | ||
| Where's your kid? | ||
| I don't know what happened to the kid. | ||
| There's no kids. | ||
| Alright, let's wrap this motherfucker up. | ||
| Let everybody know, is your show sold out? | ||
| I think they just released my comps because I don't have any friends. | ||
| I don't know anybody. | ||
| So how many tickets is that? | ||
| Probably ten. | ||
| Ten tickets? | ||
| So that's it. | ||
| FATKZ.com for tickets at the mark. | ||
| It's between San Antonio and Austin. | ||
| Chappelle's there. | ||
| Chappelle, Lacey, Malik. | ||
| The crew's there. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| That should be a fun show. | ||
| And then I'm in Tampa end of February. | ||
| What are you doing in Tampa? | ||
| Tampa Improv. | ||
| That's the only time I've ever been approached by swingers. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Tampa has a big swinger community. | ||
| That's Florida. | ||
| No, there's twice I've been approached by swingers. | ||
| Once was in Nashville. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, it was the driver. | ||
| And were they hot, though? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, they never are. | ||
| No, it was atrocious. | ||
| Yeah, that's how it goes. | ||
| Yeah, they look like bowlers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They were like, you want to come to a swingers club with me? | ||
| I'm like, I do not. | ||
| No, does everyone look like you? | ||
| I'm like, I have a pool cue with me. | ||
| I'm going to a pool hall. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I'm not here to watch you guys fuck. | ||
| No, hard pass, dude. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I love you, brother. | ||
| I love you, man. | ||
| Very good to see you, man. | ||
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I love you, man. | |
| I hope you move here. | ||
| I know. | ||
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Give me fight opinions. |
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