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Dec. 17, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1580 - Andrew Schulz
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
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joe rogan
Andrew!
andrew schulz
Hi, Joe.
joe rogan
What's up, brother?
How are you?
unidentified
I'm good, man.
joe rogan
Are you going no headphones?
I'll go no headphones, too.
andrew schulz
I always go no headphones, man.
I don't know.
It locks me in in a weird way.
joe rogan
In a weird way?
andrew schulz
Yeah, the headphones, I don't feel like I'm talking to you.
Now I feel like we're having a conversation and there's just the microphone in the way.
joe rogan
Okay.
andrew schulz
But this feels like it's on the phone.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know it's on your show.
You'd never do headphones on any of your podcasts.
No headphones.
unidentified
Never.
andrew schulz
It is what it is.
joe rogan
Dude, your show is fucking badass.
The Netflix show is very, very good.
andrew schulz
Did you watch it?
joe rogan
Yes, I did.
unidentified
Let's go!
joe rogan
You are my favorite example of someone who took this pandemic and fucking rose through it.
You elevated through it.
You raised your stock while all the comedy clubs are shut down.
Everybody else is trying to figure out what to do.
They're doing Zoom stand-up, which lowers you.
Because people get to see your stand-up.
It's gross.
You know, you figured out how to do it, man.
You really did.
And you did it in a multimedia presentation form that really other people weren't doing, man.
You fucking nailed it.
unidentified
It was awesome.
andrew schulz
Thank you, man.
Thank you for being so supportive, man.
Like, those videos popped off because you started reposting them, so...
joe rogan
Oh, my pleasure.
I love when people just get after it.
I love that you do that.
You hustle.
andrew schulz
You work hard.
Obviously, it's super tragic, corona and everything like that, but when, I don't know, for some reason I kind of thrive in chaos.
I don't know if that's a New York thing, but when it happened, part of me was like, oh, yeah, we're going to win.
joe rogan
Literally.
andrew schulz
I told the guys, when they said everything is getting shut down, I go, we'll win.
Guaranteed.
We had just put the studio in there.
I paid all the money to do the studio, and I had no clue how I was going to make the money back.
It was like, you know when the colonizers or whatever, they'd stop on the island, and then they'd burn the ships?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Because if they weren't, everybody would be like, should we just go back to Spain?
It's way better.
There's Spanish people and shit.
And then we were just like, nah, we're going to fucking figure it out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And then it happened.
We tried a few things that didn't work exactly, and then...
joe rogan
What did you try that didn't work?
andrew schulz
We did, uh, we did one thing that did work.
We did, like, a talent show on Instagram Live, and that was sick.
It was just Corona's Got Talent, and Corona Beer sponsored it, so it looked kind of cool.
Yeah, they just were like, yo, can we send you beers, like, Coronas, because nobody's buying Coronas?
We're like, fuck yeah, this is crazy.
joe rogan
How ridiculous is that, that no one was buying Corona because of Coronavirus?
I know.
That is so dumb.
andrew schulz
I know, it's wild.
So we did that, that was cool.
Then we did, like, I was just doing, like, straight-to-the-camera stuff, and it was, like, um...
Kind of like long form, almost like talking to people, but it wasn't like comedic.
It was more just like, hey, this is what's going on, you know?
But for me, I was like, I want to be funny in what I do, you know?
Like we have the podcast where we get to joke around and that's longer form, but like if we're going to create something, like a piece of content, I want it to be funny.
And then it was Bill Maher actually inspired it.
unidentified
Really?
andrew schulz
Yeah, that snarky fuck.
That guy.
He's so snarky, bro.
unidentified
He's so snarky.
andrew schulz
But like, remember when he did that video where like, he was saying why it wasn't racist to call it the Chinese virus?
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
And it was this great video, and I got sent it by like 10 different people.
And like all different ages were sending it to me.
Like my fiancé now's mom and dad sent it to me, and like my boys were sending it to me.
And I remember going, oh shit, like...
People need a safe way of describing their feelings.
You know what I mean?
Oftentimes, in comics, that's kind of what we do.
We'll describe how people feel in a funny way, so all of a sudden it's okay and safe.
But if you just said that at work, it would be racist.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Like what...
andrew schulz
Sometimes having an opinion is super costly.
But if you can thread the needle or we call it slice it thin, that's what we say on the show, where you can say it in a way where it's not costly, other people will really be engaged with it.
Because they'll be like, yeah, that's how I feel.
It's just when I was trying to explain it, it seemed kind of sexist, or it seemed kind of racist, or it seemed kind of this.
And it's like, if you can actually get it down to just the nuance of what the issue is, you'll get it.
And he just did that with that.
He went through every virus.
It was just named after something else.
And then all of a sudden it was like, oh yeah, that's not painful.
joe rogan
Yeah, I retweeted that.
I thought it was great.
He's got some great stuff sometimes.
andrew schulz
He's brave, man.
I give credit to bravery.
joe rogan
Yeah, he is.
andrew schulz
He's brave.
joe rogan
He's cocky.
andrew schulz
But we watched that and we were like, oh, we could do this way better.
unidentified
Ah!
andrew schulz
And you did.
joe rogan
What that is is when you're just trying to call people out on things, like trying to make things more whatever, more sexist, more homophobic, more racist than they really are.
Those people that are doing that, they need to take some heads.
Because those are free shots.
They take these free shots and there's no...
You're really creating turmoil in social media with that shit.
It fucks people's lives up.
And the people that do it, they never get ostracized, they never get called out.
People just either agree or disagree, but when people just go ridiculous after someone for something that doesn't make any sense, this is the year for that.
Because the pandemic exaggerated everything.
It exaggerated everybody's fears, exaggerated everybody's anger, everybody felt more helpless, and a lot of times when people don't feel well, they don't look internally to try to fix themselves.
They attack things around them.
andrew schulz
You're doing this to me.
joe rogan
Yes, you're doing this to me.
You're making me angry.
I love one of the videos where you posted all of the different titles of all these different articles about white people.
About white men being toxic and your time is almost up.
andrew schulz
That's what we were trying to do, man.
In that piece, we were just trying to talk about...
Not everybody that voted for Trump is racist, but they were positioned that way by the media.
And we were just sitting there, and we're like, what is the slice here?
I don't believe that.
All of us have a family member or friends that did.
We know them.
They're not racist, so why were they drawn to them?
And we started to go back.
I think it was back in 2016. There were all these articles...
And they just kind of like positioned, I guess it kind of like positioned white dudes specifically as like responsible for all the evils in the world.
And I guess the people in power are going to do the bad things.
And if white people are in power, they're going to do it.
But I don't know if you can like make a blanket assessment on like everybody that has white skin with that.
joe rogan
It's dumb.
andrew schulz
It's dumb, right?
joe rogan
It's just dumb.
You can say what it is.
It's hateful.
It's rude.
It is actually racist.
It's actually sexist.
But at the end of the day, it's just dumb.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's just dumb.
joe rogan
It's a dumb way to describe life.
And the people that agree with it, that's a real problem, is that there's a lot of lemmings out there that don't have a lot of time to sit through things and really think things out.
And they just agree.
The best is when white men agree.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That is my favorite.
Those are my favorite.
Those fucking gender race traitors.
There are some pathetic men out there.
andrew schulz
The male feminists that are self-loathing white guys?
joe rogan
Yeah, they are the best.
andrew schulz
And it's sad because the people that they're doing that to appease don't respect it.
unidentified
No!
andrew schulz
At all.
They think that they're pathetic.
So they think that they're winning them over, but they're not.
They're like, I don't know.
It's real sad, man.
joe rogan
All those feminists want to get gorilla fucked.
unidentified
All of them.
joe rogan
Every one of them.
unidentified
You think?
joe rogan
They just want to get gorilla fucked by a guy who, like, respects them.
They all have the right boundaries, and they set up right, they feel comfortable, and then they have a couple of cocktails, and they're like, let's go.
Like, there's a primal urge.
They tend to be strong women like feminists tend to be strong powerful women And I think one of things that feminists react to aggressively is bitch men And you know as weak men or men who think they're strong But aren't you know these asshole bosses that get in this position of power and they sexually harass women Yeah, grab and fuck with them and do things because they can get away, but they're really not strong men They're pathetic.
So these bitch-ass men, these feminist men, they think like, I've got the solution.
I am the man of your dreams.
No, you're not.
Jason Momoa is the fucking man of their dreams.
A really nice savage.
That's the man of their dreams.
A guy who's not gonna sexually harass them who also happens to be 6'4 and built like a fucking football player.
That's what they want.
They'll pretend that they want a male feminist.
No, they'll dominate you and tell you what to do and ruin your life and make you hyphenate your last name.
They'll do all that shit.
Those guys who hyphenate their last name, oh my goodness.
unidentified
Listen, we're getting married or not, okay?
joe rogan
You're taking my last name, Hooker.
andrew schulz
I told my girl, I was like, that's not happening.
joe rogan
Not happening.
andrew schulz
Uh-uh, uh-uh.
joe rogan
Delete.
Yeah, that's one of those bitch moves.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'll try to get you to do those things.
They don't want that guy.
They want a man.
andrew schulz
I feel like strong women, I don't know how we put it into quotes, but strong women are not intimidated by strong men.
joe rogan
They're not, but some strong women have been burned by so many dickhead men.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
They're just tired of men in general, and they don't have the time to look for nuance.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't have the time to look for, is this guy a stereotypical douchebag man, or is this guy a thoughtful guy who looks like a dickhead?
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
You know, both those things are possible.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
So you could look like a dickhead.
unidentified
Yeah!
andrew schulz
As long as you're sweet.
joe rogan
If you're some fucking big meathead dude, likes to go to the gym, but you read a lot, and you're really interesting, you just like being yoked.
andrew schulz
That's possible!
joe rogan
That's possible!
andrew schulz
What happened where dudes aren't allowed to be strong?
joe rogan
That's not real.
andrew schulz
Something happened where if you go to the gym, you're automatically dumb.
You're doing the thing that helps you live longer.
joe rogan
You know, the other side of that is, if you're hot and you're a woman, you're stupid.
They're not.
andrew schulz
Alright.
joe rogan
Well, you know why?
For the same reason.
Because it's easy.
unidentified
It's easier.
andrew schulz
That's the same thing.
joe rogan
It's an easier life.
andrew schulz
Like, hot dudes are dumb.
How often do you meet a smart, hot dude?
Or funny.
Like, smoking hot.
joe rogan
Or funny.
andrew schulz
They're not funny either.
joe rogan
Very rarely.
andrew schulz
And why would they be?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Like, I don't know.
I mean, I'm sure when you were younger and you were in a single daze, you know, you were out there plowing.
You probably were laughing at jokes that weren't as funny from a very attractive girl.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You do your best.
andrew schulz
Okay.
Right?
I mean, the same thing.
There's probably some girl that's laughing at some handsome dude's jokes that aren't that funny.
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I mean, you get in when you fit in.
That's why you got to be like really kind of like wounded or something to be like funny and hot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
There's got to be something severely wrong.
joe rogan
Something happened when you were young.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Someone ignored you.
Yes.
Some things went sideways.
andrew schulz
Or gay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, that too.
Yeah.
Lesbian.
andrew schulz
Lesbian chicks are funny because they know what it's like to get pussy.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
Is that it?
Is that the key?
joe rogan
A lot of that is the key because a lot of girls like humor and they're not that good at doing it.
So they like other people to make them laugh.
I mean, there are obviously very funny women.
There's a lot of very funny female comics.
But generally speaking, when you think of funny people, like Christopher Hitchens wrote a piece about this for Vanity Fair.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Women aren't funny.
A long time ago.
Right and basically was trying to say that the women that are funny.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They tend to have like sort of Masculine humor, you know, yeah, like Roseanne or someone along those lines, you know, they had tend to have what he called dykey humor Yeah, yeah, maybe he just found them funnier because he likes masculine humor Maybe yeah Also, he was a little bit of an intellectual troll.
Because he liked to fuck with people.
He knew what he was doing.
He's basically like a black belt who would walk up to white belts and smack them in the face a little bit.
Like, come on, you want to roll?
He would drag them.
andrew schulz
He was like Ben Shapiro before Ben Shapiro.
unidentified
Is that what you're saying?
joe rogan
Well, he...
unidentified
Half of Ben Shapiro's clips are like, I'll roast this feminist that's a freshman in college.
andrew schulz
It's like you're supposed to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Like, that's what you do.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Didn't you go to Harvard?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, people have a love-hate relationship with Ben Shapiro.
Every time I defend him, people get mad at me.
I like the guy.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you can like him.
joe rogan
I like him.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like him.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you like him.
He's just a little corny.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he's wrong about stuff, I think.
andrew schulz
Also, just like, let it go.
Does he ever just relax?
Does he ever just, like, chill out?
Just, like, fucking hang out?
joe rogan
He talks a hundred miles an hour.
andrew schulz
I know.
joe rogan
He doesn't have time to relax.
andrew schulz
Just chill, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Do you never, like, have him, like, not hit the weed or whatever, but, like, the hookah or something?
unidentified
That would help him.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you imagine if you gave that guy an edible?
What kind of hole did he fall into?
andrew schulz
I want to see him sing WAP then.
unidentified
That would be fire, dude.
andrew schulz
We gotta get Ben high.
Ben, come on the show.
joe rogan
We'll smoke weed together.
That song is a funny song, because if that song was about hard-ass dicks, there is no way it would be so publicly and culturally acceptable.
Talk about hard-ass dicks.
andrew schulz
It is cool that wetness has become their, like...
Like, judging point for pussy, like, because we didn't really know what it was.
It was tightness for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
You know what I mean?
But, like, tightness they can't really control.
But wetness, you can?
Like, what, Kegels?
joe rogan
Kegels, yeah.
Exercises.
There's competitions.
andrew schulz
Have you been with loose vagina?
Have you had loose vagina?
joe rogan
Um, not, like, ridiculous.
andrew schulz
That's a tough question, because if you admit it, it's like, maybe you weren't filling up that.
Exactly, yeah.
unidentified
I mean, obviously, they do vary.
andrew schulz
They have to vary.
joe rogan
They vary.
andrew schulz
They have to.
But we don't talk about that.
joe rogan
No, we don't.
andrew schulz
We don't talk about volume in pussy.
Pussy is great.
joe rogan
What's this?
This woman, she's got a hole in her pants and she's lifting weights with her pussy.
andrew schulz
Oh, she has like...
joe rogan
Yeah, so she literally has a little hole in her pants.
Usually they're Russians for some strange reason.
But there's women that clamp down on their pussy.
They put like a...
I don't know.
Like a rubber thing in there.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
To hold it in place.
To squeeze on it.
And they lift weights with it.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
God bless.
joe rogan
There's a woman who's got a world record.
Look at this chick.
Is this her?
I don't know.
I want to see how, what is the hole in her pants?
Because I don't even see a hole.
andrew schulz
Impressive how quickly Jamie got this up.
joe rogan
Is it going through some weird little tiny, like for a hoodie?
Like those little things?
You know those things in the hood?
unidentified
When you can put your thumb through the islet.
joe rogan
Yeah, when the string comes through the islet.
I mean, obviously it has to be in there.
It's in her cooter.
But there's some women that just want to impress you by clamping down.
andrew schulz
I like that, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who doesn't?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's like, I like it just, I like minimal friction.
I just like it, I like just to be relaxed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I want to work hard.
Yeah, there's something ferocious about a tight pussy.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
But we're out the game, Joe.
You know what I mean?
We just got our one perfect pussy for the rest of our life.
joe rogan
You were recently out the game too, right?
andrew schulz
That's right.
joe rogan
How long?
Have you done the thing yet?
I proposed.
Yeah, when you do the I do, I do thing.
andrew schulz
But that, to me, the proposal was the I do.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Right?
Like, I don't know.
I don't feel like it's any different now.
For her, it might be.
But for me, I've made the commitment.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Financially.
joe rogan
You gonna make little Andrew Schultz?
andrew schulz
Yeah, I would like to.
That would be fire.
joe rogan
Wait, are you going to stew them in New York City?
andrew schulz
I think so.
Yeah, I think we're going to see what happens to New York in the next year.
joe rogan
Well, it's going to light on fire.
andrew schulz
You think so?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to fall apart.
andrew schulz
You think?
joe rogan
Yeah, the businesses are gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to be a long time for that shit bounces back.
It's going to be a weird place where people that like danger go to and artists go to.
It's probably going to be really good creatively for a while, but there'll be a lot of crime for a long time.
It's going to take a long time for that to even out.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I wonder, man.
Do you think that America would let New York go?
That's the crown jewel of the Western world.
joe rogan
People are in a desperate state.
andrew schulz
But I think the government would bail out New York in the same way they bail out these big businesses.
You think you're going to bail out Walmart before you bail out New York City?
joe rogan
They're not going to bail out New York City.
It's too complicated.
andrew schulz
Would France bail out Paris?
That's what I'm trying to think.
France would bail out Paris.
England would bail out London.
joe rogan
The idea of bailing something out is not that easy.
andrew schulz
Bro, it is.
They just printed $3 trillion.
You just go like this, print.
joe rogan
But where's the money go?
andrew schulz
There's no money.
It's fake.
joe rogan
I understand that.
It's all fake.
andrew schulz
It's all fake.
Everything's fake.
joe rogan
Basically, it's all fake.
andrew schulz
Dude, it's amazing.
joe rogan
But to get New York City out, you would have to go back in time.
You would have to do so many different things.
You have all these mom-and-pop businesses that were open for 30 years or gone forever in the span of eight months.
You would have to somehow or another stop that from happening so you keep the flavor that is these small individual businesses in New York City.
Because that's one thing about New York City.
New York City, even though it's very expensive and it's huge and it's massive, the thing that makes New York City cool is these independent little small mom and pop spots.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whether it's a bodega or whether it's a restaurant or whether it's a bar.
That's what's cool about New York.
You got your neighborhood spots.
And those are gone.
andrew schulz
There's a lot of them are gone.
You think those go?
Because there's still people from those neighborhoods.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they don't have any money.
andrew schulz
Yeah, but those people aren't going to leave.
I guess the people I see leaving are like the bankers, the people who have a house in California.
They also have a house in New York.
The people that don't have to live in New York.
left.
joe rogan
Yes, a lot of people did.
andrew schulz
Yeah, like tons, like a million people left.
But like New York has become more New York after they left.
It hasn't felt this New York to me since I was a kid.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
andrew schulz
Everybody I see is a New Yorker.
Everybody I see is somebody who grew up there, right?
So the New Yorkers, the people I went to high school with, like elementary school with, are also there because they can't afford to leave.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
So, to me, we're what makes New York dope.
Like, we make New York fire because we're fire.
And then these people from Maine come in because they think they're cooler than everybody in Maine.
And they're like, I'm a New Yorker now.
And then the second gets rough, they leave.
But like...
I don't know.
You can't take away the essence of New York if you don't take away the New Yorkers.
joe rogan
Well, what I was saying earlier, I think that it's gonna get- And bodegas never pay rent anyway.
andrew schulz
Like, come on.
This is drug money.
unidentified
That's not true.
Yes.
How dare you?
That's rude.
joe rogan
That's so rude.
andrew schulz
What do you think we get weed?
unidentified
That's so rude.
andrew schulz
You go through a bodega, you get some stale bread and some weed.
joe rogan
No, you have a guy deliver it to you.
andrew schulz
Now we do.
joe rogan
You know those people?
andrew schulz
Now we do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get the delivery, man.
Especially now that New Jersey's wide open.
We just take a little trip.
andrew schulz
We respect Corona laws.
We just don't respect the drug laws.
unidentified
No.
andrew schulz
We got our drugs delivered.
We won't go outside the house.
We're quarantined.
joe rogan
You could just drive to New Jersey now.
andrew schulz
Now it's legal there.
joe rogan
Totally legal.
andrew schulz
Yeah, but then you got to pay the toll.
It's 16 bucks on the way back in.
joe rogan
You hire a guy to go get it.
andrew schulz
Now we're talking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Now we're talking.
joe rogan
You got to know a guy.
andrew schulz
New York's going to hustle.
I think we're going to be good, man.
joe rogan
New York is going to be different.
andrew schulz
It will be different.
joe rogan
It's not going to be what it is like eight years ago.
andrew schulz
It might be better.
joe rogan
Eight months ago.
andrew schulz
Low key, it might be better.
I don't know.
I'm excited for it.
joe rogan
Look at you all optimistic.
andrew schulz
I gotta be.
That's home team.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
LA was home team for me.
I bailed on that shit.
andrew schulz
Yeah, but you're from Boston.
joe rogan
That's true.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
I'm a renegade.
andrew schulz
If Boston was about to go under, you'd be like, I gotta fucking help Boston out.
joe rogan
Nope.
andrew schulz
No?
joe rogan
Fuck off.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, eat shit.
andrew schulz
But it made you.
joe rogan
It's who you are.
No, it made me.
The Boston of 1988 made me.
The Boston of today, I have no association with those people.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Other than I enjoy their company.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you got Boston in you, bro.
joe rogan
I got a little bit.
andrew schulz
You got Boston.
joe rogan
You start out doing stand-up in Boston, it's like...
andrew schulz
It's rough?
joe rogan
It's like a boot camp.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a different kind of stand-up.
andrew schulz
My favorite comics from Boston.
joe rogan
They don't have any attention span up there.
They're like, let's go!
I worked all day, you fuck!
andrew schulz
And they heckle funny.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
That's the thing people do not understand.
You go do comedy in Boston, someone's gonna heckle you with a line that you're like, I'm gonna keep that line.
unidentified
I'm not going to say that I'm going to keep it, but next time I'm on stage, I'll be using that line.
joe rogan
I'll tell you, good.
A lot of funny people in Boston never become comics.
It's cold.
It's cold weather and people work hard.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they need to do something to amuse themselves.
They talk shit to each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of shit talking there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I just think that the problem with New York is particularly like restaurants and clubs and stuff like that.
Those things are not coming back.
unidentified
Clubs could go.
joe rogan
And those things that have been around for a long time.
andrew schulz
I'm cool with that.
joe rogan
Like comedy clubs?
andrew schulz
No, like nightclubs.
joe rogan
Nightclubs, yeah.
andrew schulz
Comedy clubs should be back.
And we should be doing more to help the comedy clubs, honestly, man.
joe rogan
They should let them open.
andrew schulz
They should let them fucking open.
joe rogan
They should let people do whatever the fuck they want to do.
And that's what they do right here.
That's why I moved here.
They let people do whatever the fuck they wanted to do.
You can go to restaurants.
You can go to clubs.
Chappelle and I are doing these shows.
There's 400 people outside stuffed into this amphitheater.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
And they're all COVID tested.
And they're like, good.
Sounds good.
Let's do a show.
You can't even do that in LA. They won't even allow you.
andrew schulz
You can't even do outdoor dining.
Yeah, LA's shut down completely, right?
joe rogan
It doesn't make any sense.
There's no science behind it.
It's ridiculous.
andrew schulz
What do you think it is?
joe rogan
They're monsters.
They're idiots.
andrew schulz
What do they get out of it?
I'm trying to understand.
Is it like re-election just by quote-unquote saving lives?
joe rogan
There's a lot of cases.
There's a lot of cases.
There are a lot of cases.
But their solution to a lot of cases, they've had eight months to add new hospital rooms.
andrew schulz
That's what I'm wondering.
joe rogan
Eight months.
Eight months to fix the system.
andrew schulz
The same people that were telling us there's going to be a second wave weren't preparing for the second wave.
joe rogan
They've had eight months.
Eight months to do all this.
They haven't done shit.
They just tell you what you can't do.
They don't tell you anything what you should be doing for your health.
Anything that you should be doing to boost your immune system.
They don't pass out vitamin D to people.
andrew schulz
I was trying to get that Regeneron from you.
When I got corona, I hit you up, I was like, Joe?
joe rogan
You were too late, though.
andrew schulz
What do you mean?
joe rogan
You want to get it right at the point of infection.
Like, right when you know you have it, that's when you're supposed to get on that stuff.
andrew schulz
Right, right.
joe rogan
You were like five days in.
andrew schulz
I think I was a few days in, and I was like freaking out, because it was literally right in the middle of the Netflix shoot.
We had to shut it down.
And...
And I remember going, I need to beat this within 10 days so that we don't miss our launch date.
Because I got to come back and film.
And I was like, who the fuck do I know that has some Regeneron?
And then I remember I texted you and I was like, Joe.
And I texted you real easy at first.
I was like, Joe, what should I do for Corona?
You know what I mean?
And then you were like, you know, it takes some vitamin D, this, that, there.
I was like, yeah, that's cool.
But what's up with that Regeneron?
And then the next thing you text me, you're like, I can get my hands on that if you need it.
joe rogan
The issue was the doctor told me it was too late.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, the doctor I got a hold of said, he asked me your symptoms, asked me where you're at.
He goes, literally, he's better off just doing nothing right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
It was all right.
You know, it was like having a little cold.
You still can't smell, though.
I can't smell.
I was telling you earlier, I can't smell.
And I lost taste for a little bit.
unidentified
At all?
andrew schulz
No.
I can't smell at all.
I realized I couldn't smell.
unidentified
Hold up.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
How about Donnell Rollins' black ash candle?
unidentified
Woo!
andrew schulz
Let me smell that.
Okay.
Oh yeah, it smells like Hennessy buffalo wings.
joe rogan
Do you get anything out of that?
andrew schulz
No.
unidentified
Nothing?
andrew schulz
A little bit.
joe rogan
A little bit?
andrew schulz
Yeah, it just kind of smells like soap to me.
And Donnell, I'm sure it's way better than what I'm smelling.
Is that really strong to you?
joe rogan
A little.
Yeah.
It smells good.
I like the smell.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
I don't smell anything.
joe rogan
In honor of Donnell.
I'm rich, bitch!
andrew schulz
You're not worried about getting it at all, huh?
joe rogan
No.
I'm worried about giving it to other people.
That's what I worry about.
I'm so juiced up on vitamins and all kinds of other Mexican supplements and various things that accentuate the way your body works.
andrew schulz
Do you think you're just going to turn off one day?
joe rogan
Me?
I don't know.
We'll find out.
unidentified
Are we just going to read one day on a Thursday you like picked up a kettle ball and just fell over?
joe rogan
As long as it's moving, everything works great.
As long as it keeps working great.
andrew schulz
But you don't mind being like an experiment for these things?
joe rogan
No, no.
andrew schulz
You like it.
joe rogan
Well, I talk to doctors.
Yeah.
Like I'm not doing this like haphazardly.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
All these doctors that I talk to have already been experimenting on people for decades.
andrew schulz
It's a little haphazardly.
joe rogan
Well, I get butt tests.
It's a little bit.
It's like I know what I'm doing.
andrew schulz
You were pitching us something earlier.
It didn't even have a name, Joe.
Which one?
The PBC piping.
Oh, BPC 157. I don't know what this thing is.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a peptide.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
It's a peptide.
Yeah, it heals people with injuries.
andrew schulz
Peptide?
What is a peptide?
John, John, John, look at me.
I went to public school.
I don't know what a peptide is.
unidentified
I went to public school, too.
andrew schulz
How the fuck do you know what a peptide is?
unidentified
I read.
andrew schulz
Okay, I gotta get into that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get into reading.
unidentified
Peptide.
joe rogan
My doctor actually told me about peptides a long time ago.
Yeah, they accentuate healing.
There's a lot of articles about them.
Athletes swear by them.
Particularly BPC-157.
There's a lot of evidence that it accelerates healing from injuries.
And a lot of elite athletes swear by it.
I believe Isada has banned them.
I don't think...
Let's see if that's true.
Because I think Chad Mendes was using a peptide.
He got in trouble.
I think that was one of the things he got in trouble with.
I don't think he knew they were banned.
I'm about it.
andrew schulz
I was telling you earlier, like I'm down to start like cycling or something like that or HGH or whatever.
I heard if you do a little bit of the HGH, it's kind of fine.
joe rogan
Yes.
That's exactly what you want.
You want like one unit.
That's what I take.
I take like one unit a day.
andrew schulz
And doesn't change the way you look or anything like that?
joe rogan
Well, you get big.
If you get bigger, it's going to change the way you look.
Like your face will fell out.
Your neck will be bigger.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, your shoulders will be bigger.
You're going to get bigger if you lift weights.
But if you don't lift weights and you take that stuff and you keep your body fairly lean, you'll...
andrew schulz
What if I do half a unit and lift weights?
joe rogan
What you should do...
What's happening?
andrew schulz
I need to find...
joe rogan
What are you laughing at?
andrew schulz
I'm just trying to find the balance where I don't change the shape of my body and head.
Because what you just said to me was so normal.
You said it was really normal.
You were like, yeah, like your head will grow.
That's not that normal.
joe rogan
Your face will fill out and it'll look like your head's growing.
unidentified
But if you get to the actual skull itself, it's basically the same size.
jamie vernon
Chad Mendes did have a peptide, but it was something called GHRP6. Okay, so it's another peptide.
joe rogan
There's thymoisin, there's a few different peptides, but all of them athletes like to use because it accelerates healing.
Do you do any sports or anything?
I didn't even play basketball.
andrew schulz
I was playing ball, and then I kind of stopped playing ball, and then I kickbox a little bit.
That's what I do for exercise, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You doing that right now?
Are they open in New York?
andrew schulz
I broke my hand a few months ago.
How did you do that?
My brother and I got into a little thing.
joe rogan
You and your brother, huh?
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You hit him on the forehead?
andrew schulz
Actually, the cheekbone.
joe rogan
You had a...
An actual Donnybrook with your brother.
andrew schulz
Yeah a little bit and it's fucked up is because like I you know usually you break these knuckles.
Yeah, but I broke this one.
He's huge.
My brother's like 6'6".
So like I think I was punching up and I just hit that part of my finger first, but he's massive like he could just fucking destroy me if he wanted to.
joe rogan
Why'd you hit him then?
andrew schulz
He just hit me.
joe rogan
He hit you first?
andrew schulz
Yeah.
He's got some stuff going on.
joe rogan
Some issues?
andrew schulz
Yeah, he's a little schizophrenic.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
andrew schulz
I just walked in for my dad's birthday.
joe rogan
A giant schizophrenic.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ooh, fun times.
andrew schulz
Oh, yeah.
It's great.
But he's great.
He's the best.
And he can hit hard.
unidentified
Yikes.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
So, yeah, that was it.
But, yeah, I used to box back in the day when I was in college and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah?
andrew schulz
It was fun.
joe rogan
That's a great way to exercise.
andrew schulz
That's the best.
joe rogan
As you get older, the most important thing, though, is weightlifting.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because your bones start getting...
You lose density.
They just get weaker.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
And the only way to change your bones, the only way to make them thicker and denser is weightlifting.
The only way.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Why is it different than boxing?
joe rogan
Because you're not carrying weight.
The whole idea is you're fighting gravity.
When you do, say if you're doing cleans and presses and shit like that, Olympic weight lifts is what I always recommend to people.
Particularly deadlifts.
Deadlifts is the big one.
Deadlifts and squats.
Because you're You're forcing your body to pick up heavy things, and your body just gets denser.
Everything gets thicker and denser because your bone structure is recognizing, your body's recognizing that this fucking dude likes to carry heavy shit now.
This is our new life.
Our new life is we have to adapt to him carrying heavy shit.
So your bones get denser.
As you get older, when you don't exercise, your bones absolutely get lighter and frailer and weaker and more fragile.
That's why when old people fall down, they break hips and shit.
They lose all their bone density.
The only way to maintain bone density is weight lifting.
andrew schulz
So that's why you're all about the kettlebells.
joe rogan
All about weights.
andrew schulz
But you're still doing kickboxing.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do everything.
But I never stop lifting weights.
I'm 53. As you get older, there's just no way around the deterioration unless you have to be disciplined.
andrew schulz
Do you think you can still throw down?
Like if it had to happen?
Like if Jake Paul called you out?
joe rogan
Well, he probably fucked me up.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
He's a really good boxer.
He's a good boxer.
andrew schulz
What if it was kickboxing?
He doesn't really know how to kickbox.
joe rogan
When I was a younger man and I had good knees, I could be kickboxing people.
But I could barely get through a workout without being in pain now.
There's a reality of knees and backs and shit.
andrew schulz
Have you tried the PBC peptide?
joe rogan
The BPC-157.
andrew schulz
That too is also a really good one.
joe rogan
It helps you maintain.
But there's a big difference between maintaining and working out and then being able to train for a fight.
Being able to train for a fight, your body would break down.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Jake is interesting, man.
He is excellent at trolling.
joe rogan
So is his brother.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
His brother's...
We played a video of his brother wrestling Paulo Costa.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
His brother is fucking legit.
He's a legit athlete.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I think he wrestled back in the day.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did.
Wrestling college.
Jamie tried to shut it down and say it was like junior college.
But it was actually real college.
andrew schulz
That's that Ohio rivalry right there.
joe rogan
Listen man, you gotta give credit where credit's due.
I know those guys like to troll, but Jake and his brother are both legitimate tough guys.
They're tough.
andrew schulz
Do you think that you need trolling now for fight sports?
Are we at a point where that's the only thing that engages the casual fan?
joe rogan
Well, Khabib Nurmagomedov is the biggest draw in combat sports, and he doesn't do any trash talk.
andrew schulz
But is that a reflection of dominance?
It's like, are we kind of watching to see if he'll lose, like the Mayweather effect?
joe rogan
Well...
andrew schulz
Like, how many people are rooting for...
Like, Khabib seems like an incredibly sweet guy, and he's like a consummate professional, but I feel like the way you market the fight is not in the way that when we were younger watching Roy Jones, we were like...
Yo, Roy's gonna do some crazy thing where he puts his hand behind his back and he just knocks the dude out.
We were rooting for Roy to win, even in his most dominant time.
I feel like now the way you promote the fight is, oh, this is the perfect guy to take out Khabib.
You know, like, Justin's the perfect...
Oh, yeah, you know, he's got striking, but he has a wrestling background.
We're kind of like thinking of different ways we take him down.
Whereas, like...
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if we're rooting for him to win in that way.
joe rogan
Well, if you're a fan of his, you're rooting for him to win.
andrew schulz
Sure, and I'm sure if you're from Dagestan and that kind of stuff.
joe rogan
When you have a guy who's 28 or 29-0 and really has smashed everybody in front of him.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You always wonder, like, who's gonna be the guy that solves that riddle?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Justin came real close with those leg kicks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was really fucking up his leg.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Khabib figured out a way to get the fight to the ground, almost finished it at the beginning, or the end, rather, of the first round, and then got him in the second round.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just, he's on another level.
And that's one of the things that happens when you're, I mean, you gotta realize that guy is supremely disciplined.
Yeah.
Supremely dedicated.
Like, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't fuck around, doesn't abuse his body, always fit, always in shape, always training, and lives like a champion.
And it's like very religious, like very...
Devout Muslim.
I think that helps.
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
He's so disciplined.
joe rogan
No partying.
He's not partying.
He's not doing coke and banging hoes.
There's none of that.
He's just smashing people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I think they're trying to talk him into having more fights, but he told his mother that he was going to retire after he fought Gaethje.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I remember seeing that.
joe rogan
But you know what, man?
He's in his prime, and you only get one prime.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
What more can he prove, though?
joe rogan
The most dominant man in the sport.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's going on here?
jamie vernon
That weight cut he had, it was going around again from his last fight.
joe rogan
Oh, he always cuts a lot of weight, man.
jamie vernon
But it was apparently very brutal.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's brutal.
andrew schulz
But what more can he prove?
joe rogan
He's not really 155 pounds.
There's a thing in mixed martial arts that we all just accept, and it's a sanctioned form of cheating.
Like, you're pretending you're 155 pounds, so you draw your body out.
You dry out to 155, and then you fucking balloon back up.
Eat a lot of spaghetti and balloon back up to 200 pounds after the weight cut.
It's nuts.
andrew schulz
How do you work around that?
joe rogan
The only way you do it is you have hydration tests.
They've implemented that in college sports, in wrestling.
andrew schulz
What's a hydration test?
joe rogan
They test your body.
They test your hydration.
They make sure that you're not dehydrated.
andrew schulz
Ah, so you have to have a certain amount of liquid in your body when you're weighing in.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
They're doing that in this organization called 1FC. 1FC is an organization that's in Asia.
They're huge.
andrew schulz
That's where Askren was?
joe rogan
Askren was over there.
Mighty Mouse Johnson went over there.
Eddie Alvarez went over there.
A lot of really good fighters that the UFC either lost a bidding and they went over there or they decided to leave the UFC and go over there.
But they're doing hydration tests.
So guys that fought at 170 are now fighting at 185 because that's really what they weigh.
A guy who fights at 170 generally, like a guy like a savage, like Kamaru Usman, he walks around like 190-ish, maybe even bigger, and then just dehydrates himself down to 170 for a very small amount of time, and then balloons back up.
Like, you see them at the weigh-ins, and then you see them the next day at the fight.
It's hard to believe it's the same person sometimes.
andrew schulz
Yeah, but then there's certain guys that are fighting around their weight, and they're exceptional.
Like, Izzy fights probably within like five pounds of what he walks around in.
joe rogan
Izzy fights, he weighs in below the limit all the time.
But Izzy is in the matrix.
He's so much better as a striker than most of these guys he faces, and every fight starts out standing up.
You gotta get a hold of that guy if you want to win.
andrew schulz
Does it feel like...
Now when I watch his fights and I'm seeing how dominant he's become...
Do you think that's a reflection of him just becoming more confident in the ring?
Because I don't know if his striking skills are being improved.
He's been an elite striker probably for the last decade.
But something is different in terms of like...
joe rogan
Well, he's a champion.
Is that it?
andrew schulz
There's just the championship bump?
joe rogan
Well, he's also getting better.
I mean, he's young.
He's still improving.
These guys, they still train.
When you're training, you're getting better.
It's not like you train and you hit this plateau and you never get any better.
No, the best fighters keep getting better until the wheels fall off, until their body starts breaking down.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And his body's not breaking down at all.
He's in his prime right now.
And he's just better.
He's just better than everybody.
He's smart as fuck, man.
andrew schulz
Yeah, he's smart in there, dude.
joe rogan
There's a lot going on.
He sees patterns that other guys don't necessarily see.
And his emphasis on precision over power, like all these guys that are really interested in power, that's one of the things that the Paulo Costa fight was so...
So interesting about that fight was like, Paulo Costa is just this giant gorilla.
Just smash him up, dude.
Just big, yoked as fuck.
Just walks dudes down and beats the fuck out of him.
And Izzy was laughing about that.
He's like, I don't know.
Everybody has power.
He goes, I have precision.
And then you saw it in the fight.
You're like...
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, he really does.
Like, this isn't just boasting.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, when he started lighting up his leg and doing all his feints and switch stances on him and get reeds on him and then popping him, he started picking that dude apart.
andrew schulz
It was that leg kick, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it was that.
I think Costa had something going on with his legs before the fight, legitimately, because he had all those cup marks all over his legs.
unidentified
Ah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of times these dudes in training are training with guys and they're training the same way they're fighting.
andrew schulz
You're training with a guy who's gonna attack your leg.
joe rogan
Yeah, and not only that, he's a big brute.
And so he's probably fucking up his training partner.
His training partner's probably fucking up him.
And they're attacking the calves.
Because that calf kick is a very debilitating weapon.
And a lot of these athletes are using this now.
And when I saw him walk into the octagon, if you could see his calves, that right now is just fucked up from Izzy chewing it up.
But even before the fight started, he had these cup marks all over his calves.
andrew schulz
I see the guys with them on their back sometimes.
joe rogan
It helps people with injuries and aches and pains and shit like that.
But if you have those on your calves, I wonder.
andrew schulz
There's an issue.
joe rogan
I start thinking, oh, you might be bruised up already.
Somebody might have already chopped at your calves.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You've ever been kicked in the calf?
andrew schulz
No.
joe rogan
It's a fucking terrible feeling.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
Your feet go numb.
andrew schulz
Actually, no, I have.
I would do fake sparring.
It's not real.
It's more like working out drills and stuff like that with this guy when we were working out.
And I didn't have a shin guard.
And he did.
And it still was like brutal.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
andrew schulz
Because I was supposed to check him.
But eventually it just hurt so much just checking him.
So I just kind of like would turn my leg, I'd like let him move my leg with it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
It was probably the worst technique?
joe rogan
No, it's not the worst.
Some guys choose to do that over checking it sometimes when you just can't get out of the way and you know the kick's coming your way.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes you have to make a decision.
andrew schulz
In the moment.
joe rogan
Yeah, like is my shin so battered from checking that this is going to kill me if he hits it?
And maybe the side of my leg is a little bit more durable, I'll like let it go.
andrew schulz
It's like in boxing, turning with a punch.
That's all I got left.
I'm going to turn my jaw as you punch it.
joe rogan
Some guys are masters at that shit.
They stand right in front of dudes and let them throw punches.
andrew schulz
Canelo is really improved.
It's so funny to see him.
I was at the fight where Canelo fought Mayweather.
And like, do you remember that fight?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And just Mayweather just totally schooled him, man.
It was unbelievable.
Truly unbelievable to even just be there in that room and just watch.
There was so much confidence behind Canelo, right?
And obviously like 80% of the crowd was Mexican, right?
And you saw like 80% of the crowd's hearts just broken.
Because by the third round, you knew exactly what was going on.
It was just this complete domination and...
Yeah, man, it was unbelievable to see.
joe rogan
Mayweather's a real master.
He's a modern master.
andrew schulz
To me, he's the greatest great of all time.
Meaning he's greater at boxing than like Stephen Hawking is at science, in my opinion.
joe rogan
There's a good argument for that because- Who's come close?
Here's the thing, like the sport is hit and not be hit.
Who does that better than Floyd Mayweather?
andrew schulz
Dude, I can name three times in his career where he was hurt.
I can name them.
Zab Judah, right hook, Shane Mosley, DeMarcus Chop Chop Corley.
DeMarcus Chop Chop Corley almost put him out.
joe rogan
I forgot about that fight.
How about Maidana?
andrew schulz
Maidana hit him at the end of the belly, hit him in the right hand, and Floyd didn't know where his corner was.
For a second, he was out of it.
But he's got a beard.
That's the thing about Floyd.
A lot of people don't realize that.
He's got the pretty boy shit, but he could take a shot.
And I remember just like, I'm like, damn, this guy is impossible to beat.
joe rogan
What do you think is going to happen when he fights Logan Paul?
How crazy is that?
andrew schulz
Dude, I like Logan.
joe rogan
Logan's a big kid.
He's big.
andrew schulz
It doesn't matter.
It's like Canelo was big.
They've all been big.
joe rogan
But you know, with Canelo, Floyd, one of the things he did that was really intelligent, he forced Canelo to go down to, I believe it was 152 pounds.
andrew schulz
154. Oh, did they have a catchweight?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it was 152. And I think he did that because he knew Canelo had a hard time making 154. Yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
I mean, now Canelo's at 168. Well, he fought 75. He knocked out Kovalev.
I thought that was at 168. No, that was the light heavyweight title.
That was the light heavyweight?
Yeah.
joe rogan
He knocked out Kovalev.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
Great left hook.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, look at this.
I mean, that's obviously not real, but still.
Logan's got the size.
He's a big guy.
joe rogan
It's not real, but it might be close.
andrew schulz
And Floyd is tiny, but at the same time, it's like Logan's not going to hit Floyd with any shot that he hasn't been hit with before.
joe rogan
The only way he could is if you got a bad referee and the referee lets them tie up.
So if the referee lets Logan tie him up, and Logan can hit Floyd in the clinch and hurt him.
I don't think that's...
andrew schulz
Can he generate that much power in the clinch?
You think Logan can?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
A guy who's strong, who can hit hard, can fuck you up from a clinch.
It happens all the time.
andrew schulz
Yeah, but I don't know.
joe rogan
DC knocked out Stipe from the clinch.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
That was that short right hand.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Really nice.
Yeah, I just...
I don't see anybody doing that to Floyd, man.
Like, if you watch Floyd's sparring stuff...
joe rogan
Of course he can't.
andrew schulz
Do you ever watch his, like, the Mayweather gym stuff?
joe rogan
Amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
15 minute rounds.
andrew schulz
And in the gym, he is not on his bicycle.
In the gym, he is in front of you talking shit as you miss every single shot you throw at him.
And it's like, there's no way that Logan connects.
What I think could happen is...
That the fight is boring because maybe Floyd can't inflict enough one-punch damage on Logan.
So maybe it's boring and then maybe he wins in the people's eyes because it's like, you actually went 10 rounds with Floyd Mayweather.
joe rogan
I think if Floyd hurts him, what Floyd does is wears him out.
And it makes him fight stiff and uncomfortable because he's not going to be nearly as efficient.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Logan is going to be much less efficient.
He's going to be trying really hard.
And he's never done, I don't know how many rounds they're doing.
How many rounds are they doing?
andrew schulz
Eight maybe or something like that.
I don't even know if they've announced, but still.
joe rogan
If I was Floyd, I'd want it to be 12. Yeah, the longer the- Drag that guy into deep water and then beat the fuck out of him.
Because Floyd can do 12 rounds in his sleep.
You can wake him up in the middle of the night.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if they were the same size, it wouldn't even be interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And even though Logan's way bigger than him, it's still only mildly interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you literally have the greatest boxer of all time versus a kid who's really athletic and really tough who can fight.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's not in that league.
Yeah.
There's no discussion.
It's not a person on earth that thinks he's in the same league of boxing.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Floyd is...
He's a true master.
andrew schulz
Master.
joe rogan
A master.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
The greatest ever, in my opinion.
joe rogan
Yes.
I would say he's in the running.
Like, you...
Sugar Ray Robinson was...
andrew schulz
We just don't know.
joe rogan
...a hundred and something and O before his first loss.
andrew schulz
But you and I weren't alive for this, like...
unidentified
No.
andrew schulz
Like, that's my dad's favorite boxer.
And, like, my dad's a huge boxing fan.
He used to, like, cover boxing for the news.
He would go to Ali's camp.
Like, he has footage of, like, himself, like, shadow boxing with Ali.
joe rogan
What?
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
And, like...
Was your dad in the mob?
No, no, no.
He worked for NBC. Really?
Yeah, he was like a newscaster.
unidentified
Wow.
andrew schulz
Yeah, he did his wild story.
He's like Forrest Gump.
He did the first ever story on hip-hop music.
It was kind of crazy stuff.
But he has a video like shadowboxing with Muhammad Ali and Muhammad Ali stops and goes, what do you box?
Oranges?
He's the biggest Ali fan in the world.
And he saw Sugar Ray Robinson, I guess, when he was a kid.
And he was like, Sugar Ray Robinson, outside of him and Ali, those are the best I've ever seen.
But that's a generational thing, obviously.
joe rogan
Most boxers like to point to Sugar Ray Robinson as the greatest of all time.
Guys who are in the know of boxing.
He was a master.
He was awesome, but he was a different kind of master.
He slugged it out with people.
andrew schulz
He would get in there if he had to.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He fought rough and tumble.
But here's my argument against that.
He lost to Jake LaMotta in a decision.
I can't imagine a world where Floyd Mayweather loses to Jake LaMotta.
If they're the same size, I can't imagine a world where Floyd doesn't outbox him.
Because Floyd has a more intelligent approach.
And his approach is to frustrate the fuck out of you and take angles on you and pop you and then not let you hit him back.
And then you get into 5th, 6th, 7th round and you start going, oh my god, this is how this fight is going.
I have to get desperate.
I can't even hit this guy.
andrew schulz
I dare you to get desperate.
joe rogan
And then you start getting down the line and then he catches you like you caught Ricky Hatton.
andrew schulz
Beautiful.
That check hook.
joe rogan
Yep.
andrew schulz
I mean, he's just watching him, just as a boxing fan, watching him take away people's confidence.
I watched him take Shane Mosley's confidence from him.
Shane did end up catching him with that right hand.
joe rogan
One right hand, yeah.
andrew schulz
But what happened was when Shane, I think, threw his first or second jab, Floyd had already timed him.
He threw the first jab and then Floyd came right over the top.
He has that amazing slip and he comes right over the top with the right hand.
And he stunned Shane.
And then right after that, Shane was like, I can't even jab.
There's nothing I can do.
This guy is on a different level.
And then he ended up catching him with that right, but still like...
Yeah, he's just a great...
I don't know what happened.
I mean, I want Logan to get the money.
Like, I want these guys to get the bag.
And, like, there's something about, like, calling somebody out, which you immediately respect them a little bit more.
Like, willing to put yourself out there for a fight.
joe rogan
He called out Conor McGregor, too.
andrew schulz
That's what Jake's doing.
That kid is a master troll, dude.
He's a master creating hype.
Like, dude, if I'm Dana White, I'm praying that this guy can actually...
joe rogan
Why is this a Jake Paul-Amanda Nunes boxing match?
andrew schulz
That's because Dana said, maybe I'll let Amanda Nunes knock him out.
That's just not good for anybody.
joe rogan
I hope they don't do that.
andrew schulz
That's just not good for anybody.
Yeah, I hope they don't do that.
joe rogan
You can't sleep on that kid.
That kid can fucking crack.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you look at how he knocked Nate Robinson out, that short hand that he threw was very skillful.
andrew schulz
Real punch.
joe rogan
That was a real punch.
And it was perfectly placed.
He can hit hard.
andrew schulz
All three punches were the same thing.
They're a step back over hand right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
You...
andrew schulz
That's not like got lucky.
That's, hey, this guy doesn't know what he's doing, so he's going to charge at you.
Just step back and lay a right hand on him.
I mean, he knew exactly it was skillful.
joe rogan
And that was in the middle of a wild brawl where Nate Robinson was trying to take his head off, and it was kind of unorthodox, right?
So it's dangerous because Nate is super strong.
He's a crazy athlete.
andrew schulz
Unreal athlete.
joe rogan
Winging punches at him.
And so he's got to figure his way through this maze of bombs headed his way, and he clips them.
Here it is.
If you look at him, look at how well he moves away.
andrew schulz
Yeah, this is the beginning of it.
joe rogan
He ties up well.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
But he's good just at tying up and using defense.
And Nate was fucking dangerous, man.
andrew schulz
You saw him try to throw the right right there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a skillful boxer, man.
He really is.
andrew schulz
Like, legitimately skillful.
joe rogan
I mean, he's not world-class right now, but he is 23 years old.
I mean, he's got a real fam.
That's one that folded him, but that's not the one that folded him, ultimately.
He got up off of that one, and he'd get KO'd by the next one.
andrew schulz
They should have stopped it right there.
joe rogan
Well, he was complaining to the referee that he got hit behind the head, which is hilarious.
That was so ridiculous.
I think he realized at this point in time that this is not just athleticism involved here.
There's a mental game in boxing that you have to understand what a fight is.
You're at war with yourself as much as you're at war with that other person.
You have to keep...
Back it up, Jamie.
Let's see that punch.
So let this play out.
So if you watch how he knocks this dude out, even the way he's moving his body...
andrew schulz
Game over.
joe rogan
I don't think that's it.
andrew schulz
No, that's his second one.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's just a knockdown.
andrew schulz
Yeah, here it is.
joe rogan
Here it is.
unidentified
Bang!
joe rogan
That's the one.
andrew schulz
Great shot.
joe rogan
I mean, when you see a guy faceplant like that and bounce, that's a wrap.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Play it back.
Just let it play.
But if you watch how he did it, look at this.
unidentified
Boom.
andrew schulz
Set his feet.
Game over.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a short punch, man.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
He didn't wind that up.
He stepped back and put it in place.
He's got skill.
And he's only 23. If he decides to dedicate himself to actually being a boxer and spends all of his time boxing and then talking shit and doing podcasts, you fucking never know, man.
He might go a long way.
He obviously can perform under pressure.
He obviously has legitimate power.
He's got legitimate skill.
And he's dedicated.
andrew schulz
Why not do it if you're Connor?
50 million to beat up the guy that talked some shit about your wife.
First of all, it was wild what he said about his wife.
joe rogan
I didn't see what he said about his wife.
andrew schulz
He said, you didn't see this video?
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
Oh my god, bro.
joe rogan
I don't need to see that.
We didn't need to broadcast that.
andrew schulz
Okay, fine.
Everybody's seen it, by the way.
He just called his wife a four.
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew schulz
Yeah, and he only follows one girl on Instagram.
Connor's wife.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
andrew schulz
He knows how to play the trolling game.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
andrew schulz
So it's like, he's a wild boy, but he understands what he's doing.
Just the other day...
joe rogan
That's what Conor does.
andrew schulz
I mean, talk about talking about people's wives.
joe rogan
Conor did that to Jose Aldo.
We talked shit.
unidentified
Could be, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, to everybody.
andrew schulz
Yeah, but like...
It was just wild, man.
And then recently, yeah, I mean, the guy knows what he's doing.
He was in LA, and I think it was at Brandon Schaub's show, this Dylan Dennis.
He was doing the food truck thing.
And I guess he has some beef with Jake Paul.
Jake wants to fight him.
So he pulls up on the back of a pickup truck with water balloons and wet toilet paper and starts chucking it at him while he's doing the interview.
This is it.
joe rogan
How did he know that he was going to be there?
unidentified
I don't know.
andrew schulz
Somebody's talking.
joe rogan
How did he know he was going to be there?
andrew schulz
Somebody's talking.
jamie vernon
His brother did it a couple days before.
Maybe they just mentioned it to him and told him where it was or something.
joe rogan
But Dylan Dennis ran up to him and he sped away.
Why did he get out and fight him?
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's what a lot of people are saying.
It's kind of soft.
Like, he came at you and all your people.
joe rogan
Well, let me tell you something.
Dylan Dennis gets a hold of you.
You're getting your arms broken.
You're getting your neck strangled off.
Your head's going to get popped like a zit.
He's going to rip your knees apart.
andrew schulz
He's that good, huh?
joe rogan
Not a fucking champion.
Really?
Dylan Dennis is a world-class grappler.
Top of the food chain.
He's a guy who...
I'm pretty sure he went to a draw with Gordon Ryan, who is the elite of the elite.
andrew schulz
I see him in his videos on YouTube a lot.
joe rogan
Maybe Gordon beat him by decision by one point or something like that.
jamie vernon
I'll see what's going on in this picture.
unidentified
What is that 50 million proof of funds?
joe rogan
Got you curious, huh?
Notorious MMA? So he's showing...
Take the fight, pussy?
Who said take the fight, pussy?
andrew schulz
So Jake Paul says to Connor, take the fight, pussy, and a DM, and then he showed that Connor saw the DM. He's just...
This kid, like, okay, so there's different ways to, like, build hype.
Obviously, like, you can build hype by just creating, you know, great content.
You can build hype by creating drama, and you can build hype by creating, like, a villain-esque attitude, right?
unidentified
Yes.
andrew schulz
And this guy has no problem being the villain.
joe rogan
If he likes to talk shit about Dylan Dennis, I think it would be hilarious if they had an MMA match.
andrew schulz
Well, I don't think he wants to do the MMA one, but he's trying to get Dylan to do the boxing one.
joe rogan
But that's why he ran away from Dylan.
andrew schulz
It's a wrap with Dylan.
joe rogan
If Dylan grabs you, it's a whole different world, son.
andrew schulz
But could he beat him in a boxing match?
I don't know enough about Dylan, but could he beat him in a boxing match?
joe rogan
He might be able to.
But that's not his world.
andrew schulz
So Nate Diaz got involved.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
andrew schulz
I would love to see Nate fight him.
joe rogan
You spoil fuck.
You can't really fight dumb shit.
You're gonna end up with your ass whooped for real somewhere talking like that.
andrew schulz
Tell me you don't want to see this fight!
Dude, it feels like the 90s with rap beef.
It's West Coast, East Coast.
joe rogan
Like, they're really doing it.
andrew schulz
But tell me you don't want to see Nate and him fight.
joe rogan
I do.
These guys are trying to make money.
andrew schulz
Let them make some money.
I'm just like...
joe rogan
That's how you make money.
More?
What is this?
andrew schulz
You said you saw what happened to the other Nate.
joe rogan
Ah...
andrew schulz
So the kid knows what he's doing.
He knows how to build hype.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
andrew schulz
He doesn't mind, I guess, being hated.
joe rogan
No, he doesn't mind being hated.
andrew schulz
Which is a valuable asset.
joe rogan
He's having fun.
Look, and he's very respectful after the fight's over.
Like with Nate Robbins, he was very respectful.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was.
andrew schulz
I think he is playing the character.
I mean, we've seen Connor do it.
We've seen Floyd do it.
We've seen guys really lean into it, too hyped to fight.
Who knows what happens after the fight, but you gotta still keep on playing the character.
And you can't deny that the motherfuckers that understand how to troll or garner interest are the guys who are gonna make the most money.
joe rogan
100%.
andrew schulz
I keep on telling Izzy, I'm like, bro, Darren Till's gotta get some wins, but a fight between you and Darren, the lead-up on social media, is gonna be the most fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Non-stop back and forth.
They're making memes of each other.
joe rogan
Well, Izzy's moved up to light heavyweight.
You know, he's fighting Jan Blachowicz.
andrew schulz
Sure, sure, sure.
But like...
joe rogan
So, Izzy's fighting right for the title.
andrew schulz
Right, right, right.
But still, the idea of having those two guys who really understand...
Because remember when I said he was going to fight Yoel, and I was like, stop fighting guys that don't speak English.
We can't do any more of this.
It could be a fun fight, but like...
Which that one was not, but like...
I want the hype.
I want you to make as much money as possible.
You know what I mean?
I want people, the casual fan, to be interested.
How do you get the casual?
joe rogan
Izzy just needs to keep going.
It's inevitable.
andrew schulz
He's mapped out this whole thing.
Even when you talk about him.
joe rogan
There's a guy that's in MMA now that's the last guy to knock him out.
His name's Alex Pereira.
And he's truly one of the most terrifying human beings alive.
andrew schulz
Bad motherfucker?
joe rogan
Dude, look up Alex Pereira's KO from his last fight.
Dude, he hits people and it doesn't even make sense.
It's like...
It doesn't...
He's the same size as these people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he hits them.
It's like he's a heavyweight and they're a lightweight.
I'm telling you.
He's got fucking freaky power.
andrew schulz
Like Pacquiao had back in the day, remember?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's different, right?
Because he's got four-ounce gloves.
And, you know, with those four-ounce gloves...
Just watch...
Pull up his last KO. That was...
Bro, he owns two weight classes in glory.
Give me some volume.
But give me some volume so I can hear this.
The sound is horrific.
Dude, he's a middleweight and light heavyweight champion.
I've seen this.
andrew schulz
I've seen this.
joe rogan
Let me hear that shit.
Just listen to this.
andrew schulz
Yo, but in the fight where he knocks out Izzy, Izzy was fucking his dude up and they should have stopped the fight.
Izzy was fucking that guy up to the point where he's just in the corner covering up.
I'm shocked they didn't stop the fight.
Maybe in kickboxing, they let you get away with a little bit more.
joe rogan
It was in Brazil, too.
andrew schulz
There you go.
joe rogan
There's a good argument that you could have maybe stopped the fight, but if he goes on to knock Izzy out, maybe the argument is that you've got to let guys fight.
andrew schulz
Listen, the end of the result of the fight is the end of the result of the fight.
I'm just saying, like...
I think if that happens again, I think it's easy.
Who knows?
Maybe they've both gotten better, but from what I saw of the fight- Listen, he's definitely gotten better.
joe rogan
Pereira's gotten better.
But if you go back to Pereira's early days when he was fighting in Last Man Standing, he lost a decision to someone in Last Man Standing.
That was a big glory event back in the day.
and they reach this point where they're a champion now.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And this is just a different thing.
Izzy's clearly in that place now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's on another level.
But I think Pereira is too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if Pereira has takedown defense and he winds up making his way to the UFC.
Artem Levin.
Yes, Artem Levin.
Artem Levin is a bad motherfucker, though.
The dude he lost to is a beast.
Listen, man, there's a lot of good fights for him in the UFC, in 185, and in 205. The thing about him at 205 is interesting is he's not even going to gain any weight.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
He's just going to fight.
He's not going to put any mass on his body.
andrew schulz
He looks a little bigger.
joe rogan
Maybe.
andrew schulz
Have you seen him?
He looks a little bigger.
joe rogan
I mean, he's a big guy.
andrew schulz
But his advantage is speed, right?
And precision.
So, like, why reduce that?
joe rogan
He has a lot of advantage.
His advantages are speed, accuracy, technical acumen.
He understands striking better than anybody in the sport.
He understands distancing and feints and reads.
He's just so intelligent.
His fight IQ is off the charts.
The way he knew what was going to happen to Paulo Costa, he was talking shit.
And a lot of people talk shit, but he knew exactly.
And he was laughing.
He was like, just watch.
I'm going to piece him up.
unidentified
Just watch.
joe rogan
And that's exactly what he did.
andrew schulz
My dad would always tell me about that when he was interviewing Ali before he fought Foreman.
And people are going, this guy is destroying people.
I mean, when Foreman fought Frazier before he fought Ali, do you remember?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lifted him up in the air.
unidentified
Lifted him up in the air.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And my pops asked Ali, he said, how are you going to beat this guy?
I mean, this guy's just like destroying people.
He's mauling them.
And he goes...
He goes, this is what I do.
He goes, I'm a scientist.
unidentified
Okay?
andrew schulz
This is what I do.
Okay, you see what you do?
I don't know what you do, but that's what you do.
And he goes, what I am is a scientist.
I'm going to pick this guy apart and I'm going to take him out.
Literally.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I mean, he kind of like does a little ropey dope thing, obviously, but he took him out.
joe rogan
That shit was genius.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let that guy wear himself out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let him throw those big bombs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because that's what he did.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Throw those bombs.
Yeah.
It's interesting to watch the Paul brothers.
What I think is great about it is, first of all, if you're in the business to get eyeballs and make money, they are getting eyeballs and making money like no one ever.
andrew schulz
Let's let these MMA guys get paid.
Let's let these old boxers get paid.
joe rogan
Here's the problem.
Jake Paul flatlines Conor McGregor.
Do you understand?
Do you understand?
If they somehow or another do a boxing match, And Jake Paul cracks him and knocks him out.
You gotta realize also, how big is Jake?
andrew schulz
Logan is like 200. Yeah, Logan's about my height, but he's 200. I think he's about 6'2".
joe rogan
Jake is probably similar.
andrew schulz
I think they're probably around the same, yeah.
joe rogan
That's a lot bigger than Conor.
andrew schulz
Yeah, what is Conor?
Like 5'8", maybe?
5'7"?
joe rogan
5'8", and probably walks around 175. Yeah.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, a lean 190 versus a guy who's 175-ish.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Walking around at 175. When Conor fought Cowboy, he really hardly cut any weight at all.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
He just sort of weighed what he weighed.
andrew schulz
170, boom.
joe rogan
And that's the same thing that Cowboy did.
andrew schulz
So, if he knocks him out.
joe rogan
It's a big, big difference, man.
That's a 20-pound gap, or at least, you know, 15-pound gap.
andrew schulz
I mean, non-stop shit-talking.
If he knocks him out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Non-stop shit-talking.
joe rogan
Non-stop shit-talking.
andrew schulz
I can't imagine him doing it.
Beating Conor?
No, no, I can imagine Conor taking the fight.
I mean, he'd be silly not to take the fight.
joe rogan
You can't imagine him beating Conor?
andrew schulz
I can't imagine him knocking out Conor.
If you have so much experience in the ring, dude, at the end of the day, you learn how to survive in there.
Jorge was a good example.
Remember when Jorge fought Kumaru?
And he just has so much time in the fucking ring.
I'd see these guys in the gym all the time.
James Toney was one of these guys.
Toney would just survive.
You could put Tony in the ring probably right now with an average heavyweight.
He might not land a single punch.
He will survive 12 rounds.
joe rogan
He'll just find a lot of shit too.
andrew schulz
The whole time.
Get in hit.
joe rogan
Come on pussy.
Hit me pussy.
The odds are...
That sounds good.
Yeah.
4 to 1. 400. Yeah.
That makes sense.
andrew schulz
Disrespectful to Connor.
joe rogan
I'm not saying that Jake Paul would win.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is if he won, Jesus fucking Christ.
andrew schulz
It's over.
joe rogan
If he won.
andrew schulz
It's over.
It's over, dude.
joe rogan
If he won.
If he beat Conor McGregor.
andrew schulz
It's over.
Who else does he fight?
That's the thing.
If you beat Conor, you can't fight actual boxers because there's going to be a huge skill discrepancy right there.
So you can only fight the MMA guys that have boxing training.
joe rogan
No, he can fight some up-and-coming boxers.
andrew schulz
But there's not enough money in it.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
You need superstars to regenerate this type of money.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of other NBA athletes that wanted to fight him after he knocked out Nate Robinson.
andrew schulz
Nobody's taking that fight after he knocks out Conor if he does.
joe rogan
If he does.
We're calling it around.
unidentified
See how excited?
andrew schulz
This is what these kids do.
It's like, Dana White, get involved with these kids!
joe rogan
I know it's funny that he doesn't want to, isn't it?
andrew schulz
And you can't act like you're desecrating the sport or whatever, because you took Conor into boxing when you had no business in there with Floyd.
So it's like...
Just make the biggest fights and make the most money that the people are most interested in.
The average fight fan does not know them as much as you do.
I watch MMA all the time.
I don't know what a Darcey choke is.
They go on the ground and to me it's a chicken wing.
Or whatever it is.
A triangle wing.
Whatever it is.
I don't know what it is.
The point is I have no clue about the jiu-jitsu part at all.
I try.
I'm interested.
But it's so much vocabulary and knowledge that I probably have to watch for a while to really understand it.
I'm not going to bullshit.
The striking I get, right?
The average person has no fucking clue.
It's a bar fight to the average person.
But the average person is what's going to make you like this multi-millionaire.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
Let's get them average people into it.
Get them excited.
Get them part of the wrestling of it, the hoopla.
And let's let these guys who are literally risking their fucking lives make some money.
joe rogan
Well, it's funny.
It's like he did take that WWE guy.
God damn it.
His name is Phil.
What is his name?
The fucking...
Yeah, CM Punk.
He had CM Punk fight.
andrew schulz
But the guy couldn't fight at all.
joe rogan
No, but that's my point.
He's famous.
andrew schulz
He took the fame.
joe rogan
But CM Punk is famous.
Legitimately famous.
And that's why he was able to fight in the UFC. So same thing.
These guys are famous.
You might think they're internet famous.
But he's way more famous than anybody else that you're thinking about in this sort of realm of like internet star that can generate a lot of income and is willing to fight.
That's the top of the food chain.
andrew schulz
And they can actually fight a bit.
They can fight.
And Dana, you're the best at promoting right now.
I'll give that to him hands down.
It's been amazing what they did.
joe rogan
Did Jake Paul wrestle too?
His brother wrestled.
andrew schulz
There's video of him getting tapped out in a UFC gym somewhere.
joe rogan
Well, that's normal.
And again, that's where an MMA fight with a guy like Dylan Dennis is not a good idea.
andrew schulz
You gotta do boxing.
But what if he boxes the more jujitsu-based grappling MMA guys?
The guys who don't have the same level of experience boxing.
What if he fought Ben Askren?
joe rogan
He's got legit punching power.
andrew schulz
That's the thing.
Does he beat up Ben Askren?
joe rogan
He's got legit punching power with big pro boxing gloves on.
Not like little tiny MMA gloves.
Like little tiny MMA gloves, everybody has different power.
It's small.
There's no padding.
andrew schulz
Yeah, but you know what I find a little bit different when the boxers try to do the MMA stuff?
The...
The MMA gloves are so small that they don't really operate as a blocking mechanism in the way boxing gloves do.
joe rogan
100%.
andrew schulz
You know, like boxers, like a Floyd, if he had those full four-ounce gloves, he's not going to be able to do that same Philly shell defense.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Because anything over the top...
joe rogan
Hits you in the head.
andrew schulz
Boom.
joe rogan
Yeah, and not only that, that uppercut that he got hit with, that would have really hurt him.
andrew schulz
When Conor hit him, I couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
Conor cracked him.
andrew schulz
I couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
Conor's got fucking legit power in MMA, but in boxing, he hit Floyd with that clean shot.
It didn't really do much.
andrew schulz
Because Floyd's been hit.
You've been hit by Marcos Maidana, short right hand.
You're not going to be stunned by any of these guys.
joe rogan
Well, it's also like you can hit him once or twice until he gets your read and then he understands where you're at and starts picking you apart.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Somebody told me that Floyd made a bet that the fight goes 10 rounds.
That's why it went 10 rounds?
andrew schulz
Probably.
I mean, I think he carried him.
joe rogan
In the 10th round, he started beating him up.
andrew schulz
I'm not trying to take it away from Conor, but Floyd's the greatest ever, buddy.
Apparently, he said he didn't even train.
He just did push-ups.
Floyd's got some weird shit going on.
If you go to his Instagram, he's got a beard all of a sudden.
I think he got a beard injected.
unidentified
What?
andrew schulz
Bro, go to his latest Instagram pic.
He's got hair, he's got a hairline, and he's got a full beard, but like stubble, like Enrique Iglesias shit.
But I don't think he could grow a beard.
joe rogan
Floyd?
andrew schulz
Floyd Mayweather.
Go to his latest Instagram pic.
And he got all the comments taken off, like there's no comments on it.
So to me, that lets me know you're getting lit up.
I'm pretty sure he's got the fake beard.
That's a fake beard, bro.
That's not a real beard!
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
andrew schulz
There's no way we would have known you had this!
joe rogan
How does he have a fake beard?
andrew schulz
I think they did the Michael Jackson shirt.
Remember Michael Jackson won a goatee and then he like inserted each one of those hairs?
joe rogan
Go large on that.
andrew schulz
No comments!
joe rogan
Can you get it bigger?
What is going on there?
andrew schulz
And look at his hairline.
Go up.
Floyd hasn't had hair since he's 23 years old.
All of a sudden you got a hairline, buddy?
This guy went to Turkey.
joe rogan
Huh.
So you think he had like a hair transplant on his face?
andrew schulz
I think you could do that now.
I think you can.
And trust me, I know I can't grow a beard.
So I'm like, really, when I see guys get a beard out of nowhere, I'm just like, I'm aware of it.
You know, it's like a girl with small tits.
Like she knows every girl that has fake tits.
unidentified
Yep.
andrew schulz
A hundred percent.
So I, this guy wants to show off that beard.
joe rogan
Come on.
andrew schulz
That's the Logan fight.
What if that's the Logan fight?
He just wants to show off the foot.
joe rogan
Who gets a hair transplant on their face?
andrew schulz
He got almost a billion.
joe rogan
Do you think he's a billion left?
I bet he's got $100,000 in the bank.
jamie vernon
You're lying.
joe rogan
I bet he spent every fucking penny.
andrew schulz
You really think so?
joe rogan
I think he spends as much money as he gets.
jamie vernon
This is after he got out of prison in 2012. Yeah, that's 2012. Right, but he's shaved.
I know, I was just looking for pictures of it.
I mean, there's no real...
joe rogan
Of a beard.
andrew schulz
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, there's no way.
I even think the goatee might be fake.
joe rogan
Why does it say no hair up there?
Go all the way up.
All the way up.
Why does it say no hair?
What does that say?
Who has no hair...
What does it say?
Spends up to $3,000 a week on haircuts.
andrew schulz
Alright, maybe he's broke.
joe rogan
Bro, I'm telling you.
That guy lives like a wild man.
He's got so many cars and he doesn't even drive them and he has different colored cars for different cities.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like his cars in Vegas are all white, his cars in LA are all black.
He's got this whole system.
andrew schulz
Did you buy some new shit once you got the check?
joe rogan
Not that much, man.
andrew schulz
No car?
There's not something that you're like, let me just indulge a little bit?
joe rogan
I'm always indulging.
andrew schulz
All right.
joe rogan
But nothing special.
andrew schulz
Nothing crazy?
unidentified
No, man.
joe rogan
I felt like I'm not going to do anything different.
I'm not going to do a show any different.
andrew schulz
I know you're not going to be different.
joe rogan
But no, but that's why I felt like even with the money, I'm not doing anything different.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
What?
andrew schulz
Bro, he did that.
joe rogan
What?
andrew schulz
100% did that.
joe rogan
What?
That's exactly what it is.
andrew schulz
Fake beard, dude.
joe rogan
What?
andrew schulz
Fake beard.
Not even a question.
joe rogan
Bro, that is nuts.
That's nuts!
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, this is a thing?
andrew schulz
Yep.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
andrew schulz
Plastic surgery for dudes, man.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's exactly what it is.
Dude, that's crazy.
andrew schulz
That's gonna be popular.
I bet you dudes are gonna start doing Botox big time.
joe rogan
There's a lot of guys that do it already.
They call it Brotox.
andrew schulz
You're lying.
joe rogan
Nope.
andrew schulz
It's good branding.
joe rogan
They call it Brotox.
unidentified
Brotox.
joe rogan
Guys call it Brotox.
andrew schulz
Would you ever do Brotox?
joe rogan
No, no.
I need my expressions.
andrew schulz
That's true.
joe rogan
Like, you're on stage and you can't do this?
I know comics.
andrew schulz
Dude, you're calling fights like, He knocked on that!
joe rogan
Look at him!
I know dudes who have gotten that.
Botox and fillers.
And they look like a kabuki mask.
No.
andrew schulz
Comics?
unidentified
Weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, comics.
What is this guy?
Wow.
Listen man, don't be afraid of lines, bitch.
We should be afraid of some skin lines.
You own those fuckers.
andrew schulz
Look at these laugh lines.
I love the good life.
joe rogan
I got this one from Fear Factor.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, this big line in between my eyeballs from being outside squinting because I couldn't wear sunglasses because I was filming the show.
So I was outside eight hours a day for fucking six years squinting doing Fear Factor.
andrew schulz
Why couldn't you just wear the sunglasses?
joe rogan
They wouldn't let me.
They wouldn't let me wear sunglasses while I was filming.
They wanted to see my eyes.
Because I was doing a television show.
andrew schulz
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Where I've got to tell people things and point out things.
They don't want any sunglasses.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I'm always doing this every fucking day.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
For years.
And I developed this big-ass crease in between my eyebrows.
If you go to season one, I don't have it.
andrew schulz
There's nothing there.
joe rogan
Season one, Fear Factor, I don't have it.
Season six or whatever the fuck it was, I had it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But around season four or five, I started showing up.
I'm like, what the fuck is this?
andrew schulz
Did you ever get disillusioned with that show?
Seeing what people would do?
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
Or was it just the most fun?
joe rogan
That was the money show.
That show was for money.
andrew schulz
That's it.
joe rogan
That paid the bills.
That's by the time.
That's like late seasons.
andrew schulz
Oh, yeah.
That's deep right there.
joe rogan
I got that deep line.
See about that?
andrew schulz
Look at that little cutie pie, huh?
joe rogan
I was probably wearing makeup then too.
andrew schulz
This is great.
joe rogan
Yeah, see?
No line.
That's season one, no line.
And then you go to season seven, fat ass line between my eyebrows.
That was just a show for money, man.
And also a show because I didn't want to act anymore.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Acting sucks.
joe rogan
It's not fun.
andrew schulz
Why do we...
Like, dude...
Oh, that's what I want to talk to you about.
Did you see the Tom Cruise thing?
joe rogan
No, I heard about it, though.
I heard he goes off.
andrew schulz
This is genius.
joe rogan
Oh, I actually was saving that.
Saving listening to it to where I could listen to it on air and give an honest assessment of it.
unidentified
Can we listen?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, this is so genius.
andrew schulz
I'm not even going to say what I think about it until afterwards.
joe rogan
I'm so glad I had that restraint because I was taking a shit last night and I was like, should I listen to this?
I'm like...
I know we're going to talk about it.
Go, go, go.
jamie vernon
It's maybe a three minute, a two minute, a one minute version.
unidentified
It's like two minutes.
joe rogan
Give me the three minute, man.
I want to hear all the juice.
jamie vernon
Let's talk about Good Morning America's version.
andrew schulz
Yeah, there's like a two minute clip that's on Twitter.
It gets a little redundant.
joe rogan
Here we go.
jamie vernon
Let me check on Twitter.
It'll be faster.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Anyway, we'll talk.
joe rogan
What?
The Good Morning America one has too much?
jamie vernon
Someone used to have too much extra shit on it.
joe rogan
Oh.
andrew schulz
Yo, this guy's a genius, is all I'll say.
joe rogan
Do you think he did it on purpose?
andrew schulz
I don't want to say until after you see.
I don't want to say until after you see.
joe rogan
Jamie will find it any moment now.
andrew schulz
Ready?
joe rogan
Here we go.
andrew schulz
The pressure's on.
unidentified
Got it?
- Because they believe in us and what we're doing.
I'm on the phone with every studio at night.
Insurance companies, producers.
And they're looking at us and using us to make their movies.
We are creating thousands of jobs, you ****!
I don't ever want to see it again!
Ever!
joe rogan
And if you don't do it, you're fired.
unidentified
And if I see you do it again, you're **** gone.
And anyone on this crew does it.
That's it!
And you too!
And you too!
and you, don't you ever f***ing do it again.
That's it.
No apologies.
You can tell it to the people that are losing their f***ing homes because our industry is shut down.
It's not going to put food on their table or pay for their college education!
joe rogan
Come on, come on, bro.
andrew schulz
Come on, bro.
unidentified
That's who I sleep with every night.
andrew schulz
Come on!
joe rogan
That's who I sleep with at night, other than dudes.
unidentified
In the future, the f***ing industry.
So I'm sorry, I'm beyond your apologies.
I have told you, and now I want it.
joe rogan
And if you don't do it, you're out!
We are not shutting this f***ing movie down!
Is it understood?
unidentified
If I see it again, you're f***ing gone.
It's sure you.
So you're gonna cost him his job.
And I see it on the set, you're gone.
and you're going.
That's it.
joe rogan
- Well-- - Are I clear?
Do you understand what I want?
Same shit.
Okay.
I think, first of all, it's interesting hearing someone yell with a mask on.
Right?
Because you can clearly hear, he's yelling through a mask!
jamie vernon
It could have been someone's phone in their pocket too.
joe rogan
Or, he had a mask on.
He probably had a mask on and was yelling about COVID protocols.
jamie vernon
I could hear a lot of muffling on that.
I thought it was...
joe rogan
Yeah, because that too, but it's also the sound coming out of his mouth.
andrew schulz
Maybe he's wearing a mask.
But who has a blow up and says all the right things?
joe rogan
He does.
Everything he said was right.
andrew schulz
That's what I'm saying.
That's why he leaked it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Of course you leaked it.
joe rogan
He leaked it?
unidentified
Of course!
Joe, he just had a blow up where he's like, we need to save people's lives.
andrew schulz
People are losing their jobs.
They just want to pay for college education.
When you're angry, you don't act rationally when you're screaming.
You don't?
unidentified
No.
andrew schulz
Do you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
When you scream, you're being, well, we need to care about the turtles and stop using plastic straws.
andrew schulz
That's how you're going to yell?
joe rogan
That sounds like me.
unidentified
Get out of here!
andrew schulz
Come on!
There's not a single, like, slur?
You didn't have one slur?
joe rogan
I think what he did was perfect.
unidentified
No, no.
andrew schulz
What he did was fine, but he leaked that shit so he could look good.
When Christian Bale was cursing at the guy for, like, making noise on set, right?
joe rogan
For fuck's sake, man!
Be professional!
andrew schulz
Most likable he's ever been.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love it.
I love the actor blots because it's authentic.
You get to see who they are.
And if you're a douchebag, I'm fine with that.
Just be you, you know?
joe rogan
People were mad at him for that, but I was like, that guy's probably in his line of sight and fucking with things in the middle of a scene while the guy's trying to act.
And a lot of those guys on sets are disrespectful.
Like, they don't respect the process that the actors are going through.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, there's a lot of people that are just idiots.
andrew schulz
Yeah, they're just walking around.
joe rogan
I've seen that on sitcoms.
I've seen that with lighting people and sound people.
A lot of them are knuckleheads.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
But acting's stupid, also.
We should acknowledge that.
joe rogan
But I love movies, so I'm torn.
andrew schulz
That's the problem!
joe rogan
So I'm torn.
andrew schulz
It's like, you want to see these things, but at the same time, you're like, ah, this is so corny.
joe rogan
It is corny.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Anyway, he had to, I mean, like, come on, you had to be in control of leaking that.
There's no way.
It's like, it just makes him look good.
joe rogan
Maybe, maybe not.
It's a dramatic blowout.
Dramatic blowouts are always good.
People like him.
They like to listen.
We just listened.
I was enjoying it.
I liked all that screaming shit.
unidentified
Do you think he really cares?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he cares.
He's making a movie.
He's a movie star.
What are you doing?
What are you saying?
You don't think he cares?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
He's such an odd guy.
andrew schulz
Have you met him?
joe rogan
No.
No, but I mean just everything about him.
The whole Scientology thing.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
What's the deal with that?
Does it work?
Does it work?
unidentified
We all hate on it before we know if it works.
joe rogan
Well, it was created by a science fiction author.
andrew schulz
So were they all.
It's not different from any other book, right?
They say some wild shit in all the books.
Does this one work the best?
joe rogan
Here's the difference.
First of all, it was created by a guy who we know.
andrew schulz
L. Ron.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he was a terrible science fiction author.
Have you ever read his books?
They're so bad.
There was no second drafts in L. Ron's collection.
He just spewed out whatever the fuck he was saying and it's really dumb.
andrew schulz
Just First Testament.
joe rogan
They're really bad.
And he was like, have you ever read Going Clear from Lawrence Wright?
andrew schulz
No.
joe rogan
It's a great book.
andrew schulz
Wait, is Lawrence Wright the second guy?
joe rogan
Lawrence Wright is the guy who wrote the book that HBO turned into a documentary on Scientology.
andrew schulz
Yes.
joe rogan
Okay, the the book going clear is even better than documentary and it's yeah, it's crazy shit, man It's all talking about Elrond that Elrond was basically like he was a guy who was mentally ill right was trying to He was trying to create some sort of psychology therapy for himself.
Yeah through like books and self-help books and then he created and concocted this religion after telling people that the way to make real money is to start a religion but is Isn't that how all of them go?
andrew schulz
Like, the Mormons, right?
What was the dude's name?
joe rogan
Joseph Smith.
andrew schulz
Joseph Smith.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Yo, I got these tablets.
They're popping up, whatever.
We should go to Salt Lake City.
joe rogan
All the new ones.
andrew schulz
That's crazier, isn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And we just confirmed there's aliens, so he's not that crazy.
unidentified
He's crazy.
joe rogan
He was a 14-year-old kid who was a con man.
andrew schulz
He's a crazy con man.
What I'm trying to say is, does it work?
joe rogan
What do you mean, does it work?
andrew schulz
Like, things can be bullshit, and then they work.
Like, the economy.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
It's bullshit, but it works.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Do you know what I mean?
So, maybe this Scientology thing, maybe we go, and then maybe we're less stressed.
Send Ben Shapiro.
unidentified
Do you know what I mean?
andrew schulz
Like, maybe Ben gets clear, and then all of a sudden he's, like, super cool.
joe rogan
Ben is a Jew, and Judaism is what keeps him together.
That's his glue.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
That's the bubble gum that keeps his papers stuck together.
andrew schulz
Maybe there's better glue.
Maybe there's some cement.
And maybe you go to Scientology, you get clear.
I don't know.
I'm just saying I know nothing about it.
It's like country music.
Like, when I was growing up in New York, like, everybody told me country music was stupid, right?
So I was like, yeah, the only music I don't listen to is country.
Like, it was just a saying that we would have.
Like, I listen to everything except country.
I never listened to country music.
I started listening to country music.
It's incredible.
joe rogan
There's some great country music out there.
andrew schulz
It's like my favorite.
joe rogan
Especially today.
andrew schulz
It's unbelievable country music.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And I listen to like the Britney Spears of country music.
I listen to like Rascal Flatts and I just love it.
Like life is a highway.
I'm all about life is a highway.
I'm into it.
unidentified
Oh, really?
andrew schulz
Life is a highway, bro.
joe rogan
Life is a highway.
andrew schulz
Yeah, we're gonna ride it.
joe rogan
All night long?
andrew schulz
Damn right, Joe.
joe rogan
Okay.
andrew schulz
Damn right.
So my point is, is like maybe Scientology got like a couple things that are pretty good.
joe rogan
Well, here's what Scientology does.
What Scientology does for people is it gives them a structure.
It gives them a belief system.
It gives them some goals to set, some things to do.
And you're concentrating on being positive and being productive.
Anything where you concentrate on being positive and being productive is going to be beneficial.
As opposed to no structure at all, no concentrating on being positive, no concentrating on being productive.
Tom Cruise is obviously a very positive, very productive person.
He gets a lot of shit done.
The dude's a beast.
I mean, the dude does his own fucking stunt work, and he's like 56 years old.
andrew schulz
Looks great.
joe rogan
And he jumps off buildings.
He's a savage.
Like, legit respect for Tom Cruise.
Crazy as cat shit.
He's out of his fucking mind.
andrew schulz
Likes guys a little bit, or no?
joe rogan
I joked around about that earlier because I'm rude, but I don't know.
He's had a bunch of children with women.
So how about you fuck off, Andrew Schultz?
andrew schulz
But they have the same name as him, right?
That's arrogant.
joe rogan
What?
What do you mean?
andrew schulz
When you marry a girl who's got your last name.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
andrew schulz
Penelope Cruz.
joe rogan
Oh.
They didn't marry her.
andrew schulz
Oh, he didn't?
joe rogan
No, he was just dating for a little while.
andrew schulz
Whatever.
Point is.
jamie vernon
It was a movie, right?
Vanilla Sky.
unidentified
Right?
andrew schulz
I think they were hooking up a little bit.
So what if he's gay?
joe rogan
I don't care.
Well, I think there's probably a lot of people in Hollywood that are gay that are leading men that can't come out of the closet because there's one thing that you can't do in Hollywood for whatever reason.
Hollywood pretends that it's not homophobic at all.
What is this?
What stun is he doing?
andrew schulz
That's a wild boy right there, bro.
joe rogan
Is he jumping off that?
andrew schulz
That's a wild ass boy right there.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
He's bass jumping?
andrew schulz
That is a wild ass boy right there.
joe rogan
He's crazy, bro.
andrew schulz
Come on, dawg.
joe rogan
He is a real bad motherfucker.
andrew schulz
How do you do that and you're afraid to say you're gay?
joe rogan
This is way scarier.
This is my thing.
This is not saying Tom Cruise is gay.
I was joking around before about him sleeping with guys.
andrew schulz
But he could get cracked open by guys.
That is true.
That's a possibility.
joe rogan
Men do fuck men, so you might be right.
andrew schulz
And he could be getting cleaned the fuck out by them, right?
joe rogan
Here's my thought.
Hollywood pretends to be super woke and super progressive, but there is one border they do not cross.
They do not have gay men, openly gay men, play straight heartthrobs in movies.
It never happens.
It does not happen.
Because there is an accounting for the homophobia of a modern society As lessened as it is, as opposed to like the 70s and the 80s and the 90s, there is still homophobia and people do not want to see an openly gay man making out with a woman, pretending that he's in love with her.
They don't...
andrew schulz
We don't believe in the romance.
joe rogan
We can't have an openly gay James Bond actor who goes banging spies and fucking people up.
They don't exist.
That is the one thing that doesn't exist.
And it traditionally has not existed.
Maybe Tom Cruise could be the guy that breaks that mold if he was gay and came out of the closet.
andrew schulz
Like Doogie Howser?
What's his real name?
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy.
andrew schulz
Neil Patrick Harris?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
That guy was killing it.
He was like a Lothario in that one show.
Remember, he was in that sitcom where, like, How I Met Your Mom?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Right?
andrew schulz
And then he comes out as gay, and now he's got to be weird characters.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
andrew schulz
He's got to be like...
joe rogan
It says the sitcom world's a different world.
Tom Cruise is in the blockbuster action movie world that's international.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's selling movies to China.
andrew schulz
Saudi Arabia doesn't want to see...
You're getting smoked out and then hooking up with some hot chick.
joe rogan
If he was banging dudes openly, if Tom Cruise said, listen, all these years I've been a gay man and it's frustrating for me, it's over.
That machine fucking grinds to a halt.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
Dude, Hollywood is so funny, man.
unidentified
It's over.
joe rogan
If The Rock turned out to be gay, a super athlete like The Rock, a gigantic superhero of a man, if all of a sudden The Rock said he's gay, and I'm not saying he's his.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
I love The Rock.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm a giant Rock fan.
andrew schulz
Shout out to Taramana.
joe rogan
And even if he was gay, I'd be a giant Rock fan.
andrew schulz
Yes.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is that international movie world.
andrew schulz
He could take that from you if he wanted, bro.
If he was gay?
joe rogan
Probably.
andrew schulz
He could take that.
joe rogan
Probably have a lot of problems.
andrew schulz
Oh, yeah.
You're going to need a lot of PBC type tides.
unidentified
PBC. Whatever that is.
You're going to need a lot of that to recover from...
joe rogan
It's just right up there.
But the point is, I think they would severely damage his brand as an international lead man superstar.
andrew schulz
Yeah, now it is true how things work like that.
I don't think it's bigoted to think like that.
Because you're making that prediction based on financial returns.
Yes.
joe rogan
I'm not bigoted.
I'm just looking at the reality of leading men in movies that are gay.
Leading men in movies, when they're gay actors, they wind up being the best friend of the wife or someone else or a guy at work.
They never wind up being the romantic lead.
andrew schulz
I'm not saying you're bigoted.
I'm saying even Hollywood making those decisions because they're literally just trying to get return on investment.
It's like selling bacon at a Muslim restaurant or something.
It doesn't matter how good the bacon is.
It doesn't matter how much you like bacon.
They're not going to eat it.
joe rogan
They're not.
Look, China influences films so much that they change Doctor Strange's guru from a Tibetan man to a white woman.
andrew schulz
Yo, Hollywood's pussy with that China shit.
I won't be able to go to China, by the way, after this thing comes out.
joe rogan
It's a lot of money.
It's a lot of money.
I bet you won't be able to go to China.
andrew schulz
We go kind of hard on China.
joe rogan
You don't have to go to China.
Guess what?
andrew schulz
I don't need to go to China.
joe rogan
You can stay in New York City.
andrew schulz
I've seen it.
I've seen it.
joe rogan
Have you been?
andrew schulz
Looks busy.
joe rogan
It's very busy.
andrew schulz
China?
joe rogan
Very busy.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's probably similar to the New York one.
unidentified
They have good food, though.
joe rogan
They have good Chinese food.
andrew schulz
Do they?
joe rogan
Allegedly.
andrew schulz
That's what they say.
joe rogan
That's where I came from.
I love Chinese food.
andrew schulz
It comes from China.
Yeah, but what if it sucks, dude?
What if we're getting a whole different type of Chinese food?
joe rogan
Like Italian food in the East Coast is different than Italian food in Italy.
andrew schulz
Exactly.
We might not want that little thin pizza shit.
unidentified
Right?
andrew schulz
The little thin crunchy pizza?
We don't want that, maybe.
unidentified
Who knows?
andrew schulz
Keep that in Firenze.
You fanooks.
There's a thing with, I don't know, I do understand and I have empathy for people in those situations where you have to make a decision that's based on finances.
Literally two days ago, I don't know if I told you this, but the head EP, I can't say his name, but who basically got this show made on my side, the Netflix show, called me.
He was like, hey man, I just watched it.
I gotta take my name off this show.
joe rogan
What?
andrew schulz
And I go, what do you mean?
He goes, you're making fun of all my friends.
He goes like, Gavin Newsom comes to my house.
Like, Kamala comes to my house.
Like, they've been all these celebs that you're talking shit about.
joe rogan
What did you call him a blow-up fuck doll?
andrew schulz
What did you call him?
joe rogan
What did you call him?
andrew schulz
Inflatable fuck doll.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, CNN went after him the other day.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
That's when you know it's over.
andrew schulz
So people aren't into...
joe rogan
Well, they recognize that his ship is sinking.
andrew schulz
Same with Cuomo?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a recall for Gavin Newsom right now.
It's reached over 800,000 signatures, which is big.
And if it reaches 2 million, then it can actually happen.
But the fact that CNN went after him, I'm like, oh, they're sacrificing him.
They realize that what he's doing, especially after going to that restaurant and sitting indoors with no mask after telling everybody to social distance.
Look at this.
How it all went so wrong for Gavin Newsom.
I just want to tell people- Scroll down lower than that, so you see what it says there?
Yeah.
They're basically amplifying the signal that it's going wrong for him.
When they're doing things like that, they recognize the sail where the ship is sailing.
andrew schulz
But also, fuck them.
I think Tim Dillon had a great tweet where he was just like, any governor, any politician that breaks their own protocol, resign.
joe rogan
Resign.
andrew schulz
And you should fucking resign.
joe rogan
And you should go to jail.
andrew schulz
Yeah, honestly, castration.
joe rogan
What do you do for the women?
andrew schulz
Do it as well.
joe rogan
No.
Female genital mode?
andrew schulz
No, no, no.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
andrew schulz
I don't know what you can do for the women.
What's the thing they do in Egypt?
joe rogan
The thing they do to the children.
Female genital mutilation.
andrew schulz
It's horrific.
joe rogan
I don't wish that on anybody.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's really bad.
We shouldn't do that.
Why is it so much more fun to talk about guys' balls getting chopped off?
joe rogan
Because we're guys.
It's a free shot.
andrew schulz
Leave the girls' vaginas alone.
joe rogan
Just put them in jail.
andrew schulz
Put them in jail.
The men, I think they have to resign no matter what, and then maybe jail.
joe rogan
Joking around about jail, but legitimately resigned.
Yeah, we're joking around about jail But I legitimately think they should be forced to resign but also break your own protocol if you're Nancy Pelosi and you have shut down Beauty salons and then you go to a beauty salon with no fucking mask on you force them to do your hair It's over.
We get out.
Yeah, you're a hypocrite.
It's proven We have a video that you're a hypocrite and then when they talk to her about she's like, I think it was a setup.
andrew schulz
She flipped it on them.
I Low-key, I respected that.
joe rogan
That's what she does.
andrew schulz
She's a gangster.
That was nice.
joe rogan
She flipped it on them back when she was telling people to go out in New York City in February.
andrew schulz
What'd she say?
joe rogan
Yeah, she was telling people to go out in New York City.
She's like, don't stop going out.
andrew schulz
Oh, when she was in San Francisco.
joe rogan
No, I think it was New York City.
andrew schulz
Oh, I thought she was in her own San Francisco Chinatown.
joe rogan
Maybe.
andrew schulz
Saying like, hey, we should be out here.
We should be spending money.
We should do our thing.
joe rogan
I think she was talking about New York City.
andrew schulz
Maybe.
joe rogan
But either way.
andrew schulz
But yeah, all of them.
They're fucking frauds.
joe rogan
The point is, after it was over, she was like, the record will show that that's not what I was saying.
She speaks in this weird...
And she doesn't get called out on it.
Ocasio-Cortez takes direct shot at Pelosi and Schumer.
The progressive star bluntly stated that we need new leadership in the Democratic Party.
She just wants straight-up socialism.
They want to go hard with the woke stuff.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's the tricky thing.
joe rogan
That is going to kill the party.
That socialism shit is going to kill the party.
People are not down for that defund the police, socialism shit.
That radical left stuff scares the fuck out of people with mortgages.
andrew schulz
They just don't get the branding of it at all.
They're really bad at branding.
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
They get a lot of love for that thinking.
andrew schulz
But it's not love.
It's like, Joe, you're a testament to this.
If you have a reasonable, rational point of view, sometimes it leans left, sometimes it leans right.
But it's reasonable and it's rational, and you're not positioning the other side as evil with your show.
You end up having the biggest show in the history of media so far, right?
These people on CNN or Fox News or the AOCs or whoever the AOC is on the other side are playing to the loudest 10% on the internet, but they're losing the rest of us.
80% of us are literally right here in the middle going, fuck, I can't trust these guys.
I can't trust these guys.
Who the hell am I going to trust?
That guy's got a podcast where he has interesting guys going on.
Isn't that crazy?
You didn't even ask for this.
Were you sitting down going, one day I'm going to have the biggest podcast in the world.
People are going to come to me for truth.
Right?
You're like smoking weed with Red Band.
And then it just fucking fell into your lap because you're like, these guys, I imagine you probably thought earlier on, there's a little more skepticism.
About media early on for you.
joe rogan
No, maybe it comes from like the conspiracy type background Well, I've always had skepticism for people that are in power that are establishing a narrative that you know benefits Politicians or benefits special interest groups.
Yeah, whatever the fuck they're doing when it's transparent and obvious It just drives me nuts like how these groups don't see it and then you see that like that kind of wedge It keeps being driven and driven and driven and fucked up world though dude that world of politics is so baffling like But they have to represent us in a certain way.
andrew schulz
And once they realize that they're losing us, they will change.
These people want power, right?
Some of them want change, but most of them, especially ones that have been there for 40 years, they want power.
And they're willing to manipulate their bodies in whatever way that they can to maintain power.
So the second we start saying...
That we want weed to be legal?
All of a sudden, all these same stiffs that have been saying weed shouldn't be legal and it's horrible, all of them, well, you know, it could really help states and this is a drug for medicine purposes and all this other nonsense.
They don't care.
They do whatever we want.
So, let's create the situations where we can, I guess, manipulate them, maneuver them or whatever it is by just putting truth out there.
I don't even think it's that hard.
joe rogan
It's not that hard to put truth out there.
And, you know, just to be honest about your opinions on things.
It's controversial in that world.
You have an established narrative that you're supposed to adopt.
If you're left wing or you're right wing.
andrew schulz
That's the bullshit about it.
They give you the talking points.
They literally hand them to you.
joe rogan
If you're on CNN, they discuss what you're going to say and how you're going to say it.
You ever hear those tapes of Cuomo talking to Michael Cohen?
Talking him through how they're going to do this interview and what he should say?
That is crazy.
andrew schulz
It's propaganda.
joe rogan
It is propaganda.
andrew schulz
And we're starting to see it.
joe rogan
It's propaganda on a news show.
andrew schulz
On a news show.
And what's so funny is we would clown Russia and all these other countries for doing this exact same thing and sit here like, oh, well, we have freedom of the press and all that other stuff.
Okay, what you're going to say is make sure we're left-winged.
It's just bullshit because at the end of the day, we have the internet now.
We can access information.
We're not stupid.
10% of us on each side just want to be told what we feel is right.
And that 10% is way too little for them to actually maintain their business model.
I shouldn't be here and you shouldn't be here.
They should have never opened up that hole for us to exist outside of the industry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Like, the fact that they left that hole gaping wide open.
joe rogan
Well, we both do very different things than what they're doing, though.
andrew schulz
But they could literally be, they could pull it close.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they can't.
See, you can't talk shit on CNN. What we do that is so comforting to people is we talk shit like they would if they're with their friends, and they're sitting around the kitchen table, cracking beers, talking shit.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
We talk shit.
Talking shit is an integral part of being a man.
It's very important.
So if you see a bunch of men on television and they're never talking shit, or when they do talk shit, it's like Don Lemon shit talking, where you're like, what is happening here?
Why is anyone laughing at this?
What is this?
It's like theater class shit talking.
It's like some odd form of shit talking that doesn't really make sense to you.
It's an improv Yeah, it doesn't make sense to actual males.
So when you see these people that are talking about important issues, but they never say it in a natural voice.
They never say it in an honest interpretation.
They don't have an honest view based on their life and what they see.
It's always through the party line.
It's always through this ideology that they have to support.
andrew schulz
Call yourself out when you're wrong.
Dude, first time I came on the show, I said Netflix was going to go out of business.
unidentified
I was wrong!
joe rogan
Netflix is done.
andrew schulz
Listen, I was wrong.
I looked at the numbers and I thought I was wrong.
Now I'm on fucking Netflix!
Okay, I call myself out on it.
I can say it.
joe rogan
It's fine.
andrew schulz
Do you know how refreshing that is when you hear somebody like...
I think even if something happened with you, like you corrected something you said on a pod.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
You put out a video afterwards.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Right?
And it's fucking refreshing because then you're like, oh, I can trust that guy because if he does get something fucking wrong, he's going to say it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I will every time.
And people also thought that Spotify asked me to do that.
Literally, no one asked me to do that.
Jamie, that was a five-minute decision.
I walked in here...
Jamie said, oh, that thing that you said about that is wrong.
I'm like, no, really?
And he shows me the article and I'm like, fuck, what should I do?
I go, I was about to do a podcast.
I go, I'm going to make a video.
So I just made a video right there and then, one take, uploaded it, and then did the podcast.
andrew schulz
And what do I remember?
I don't remember the content.
I don't remember what you apologize about.
I just remembered that you apologized when you were wrong.
joe rogan
I will always do that.
andrew schulz
But then people trust you.
joe rogan
I'm never married to my opinions.
And if I have a mistake, I think it's way more important that I say the mistake and tell people the actual facts than protect my fucking fragile ego and pretend that I didn't fuck up, that I didn't make a mistake.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
100%.
joe rogan
If you get something wrong, you've got to say it.
And if you get duped, you know, if you read some incorrect information, we've done that a hundred times.
Like, I've said something early on in the podcast, and an hour later, Jamie's like, well, actually, that's not true anymore.
You find out it's a lie, you find out it's propaganda, or it's a parody site.
Didn't Trump just recently tweet something from a parody site?
andrew schulz
The Babylon Bee or something like that.
They're funny over there at the Babylon Bee.
joe rogan
Somebody just sent me something from that today and they didn't know it was fake.
They get people all the time with that.
andrew schulz
What do you think happens with Trump?
What do you think the next stage of Trump's...
joe rogan
Jamie has a theory.
andrew schulz
Okay, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Just with the potential California recall of Newsom, there's an internet push that could say, hey, why don't you go take over California?
It's on its own the fifth largest country in the world with the economy.
joe rogan
Imagine.
Trump takes over California, brings it back to life, gets rid of all the homelessness, and then comes back and runs for president again in 2024 and wins by a landslide.
andrew schulz
Flips California.
Imagine, dude, he flips California.
joe rogan
And people are like, why would you even want that?
Why would you want that?
I'm not saying I want that.
I like ridiculous shit.
I like chaos.
I do.
unidentified
I enjoy that.
Now we're talking, baby!
joe rogan
I enjoy it.
That would be chaos.
jamie vernon
Schwarzenegger became governor when there was a recall, right?
joe rogan
Yes, Gray.
Yeah, they recalled Gray, and then Schwarzenegger took over.
That was 2003. 83?
jamie vernon
Okay.
andrew schulz
I mean, who knows?
Who knows what's going on?
Who knows what's going on?
But he's going to be around.
He's looking a little silly now when he keeps on leaning into the voter fraud shit.
Yes, there's voter fraud.
I think there's probably voter fraud every single election.
And yes, there's shady shit going on.
Was there enough for him to lose the election?
Nothing I've read or watched so far.
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
Has showed me that?
joe rogan
No, I haven't read that either, but it's interesting that some people don't even want to admit there's voter fraud.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I do not believe there was enough voter fraud to flip the election the other way, but I have some hardcore lefty friends, and they're like, all this voter fraud shit is bullshit.
I go, no, no, no.
Here's the question.
Here's my question.
Is the amount of voter fraud more than zero?
andrew schulz
Yes.
joe rogan
What's the number?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is the number?
andrew schulz
That's the question.
joe rogan
Because you know there's some.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what's the number?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know there's some stuffed ballots.
You know there's some bullshit.
You know there's some people working there flipping votes for the other people.
andrew schulz
100%.
joe rogan
You know that Dominion fucking- Could be shady.
That shit is shady as fuck.
andrew schulz
Dude, bare minimum, I think there was a story about a husband and wife.
The husband ends up dying, like two old people, but they had their mail-in ballot, and I think she sent it in anyway, knowing who he would vote for.
That's fraud.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
You're not allowed to do that.
Dead people aren't allowed to vote.
How many of those situations are there to flip an election?
I don't think so.
I mean, it got lost by a lot.
joe rogan
Probably not enough.
andrew schulz
That being said, there is voter fraud, and he's leaning in, I imagine, to the voter fraud thing to continue to bolster up his base and delegitimize the loss, because he's always about branding.
That's all he understands is branding.
And it's actually a smart move if you lost, how you can keep those people emboldened.
Yeah, but I think the average person that was kind of like drawn to him is only drawn to him in terms of like His victory state and I think that they're starting to kind of sour a bit on Trump They're kind of think he's looking a little bit pathetic now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it doesn't look good.
Yeah, you know when you when you're a simple person And this is not an insult.
There's a lot of people that support Trump that look at things in a very simplistic way.
You know, like, God wants Trump to win!
Like that kind of shit.
When you're a simple person, you don't respect losers.
Now, when a person loses and then complains about losing, you don't respect that.
So you've got two choices.
Either you go along with the narrative that they stole the election...
And, you know, and then you're not sure if that's true, because you don't really have enough data.
You don't have it in front of you.
So you go with it, but you're like, uh, I don't know if that's true.
And then you see him complaining about it all the time.
But then you see that, like, the Electoral College, they all, they just established Biden as the winner, like, yesterday.
andrew schulz
Yeah, they finally handed it over.
joe rogan
It's over.
He won.
Yeah.
What's happening?
So these people are in limbo.
They don't know what to believe.
Because he looks...
When someone's complaining and whining about it being stolen, you look pathetic.
andrew schulz
Yeah, whining is never good.
joe rogan
Yeah, you look pathetic.
Like when he gets criticized by reporters, and he's like, what they did was terrible.
We won, and we won huge.
We won huge.
We won bigger than anybody's ever won before.
And you're like, oh, did you though?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
Yeah.
But here's the other thing.
It's also crazy that we don't trust the whole process anymore.
We don't.
And what he's doing is by saying that he won and that he's being robbed, it undermines the entire electoral process.
andrew schulz
It really does.
That's what's douchey for self-interest.
And I think that's just as douchey as these networks that drive the wedge for profit.
He is driving that wedge for profit.
I don't think he's doing it out of patriotism.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
He's done that in the past.
andrew schulz
Yeah, this is what he does.
joe rogan
He did that about, I believe he did it about Ted Cruz.
He did that about other elections.
He was saying that it was fraud.
andrew schulz
You're talking about the primary?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
When he lost the primary in, what was his state?
joe rogan
I don't know.
andrew schulz
He lost the primary in one of the states to Ted Cruz.
joe rogan
And he blamed, yeah, he said it was, it was 2016, right?
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he blamed voter fraud.
Like, you can't cry wolf like that.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you gotta just take the L, man.
We respect it.
If people take the L on the chin, it is what it is.
joe rogan
But it does make you realize, like, boy, the dirty shenanigans behind the scenes is valuable.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That dirty shit is how you win an election.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I mean, yeah.
Didn't they say that's how JFK won?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
Isn't that the rumor?
unidentified
The mob.
andrew schulz
Yeah, the mob.
joe rogan
The mob hooked it up in Chicago.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Illinois was apparently not going his way, and he needed it.
andrew schulz
I heard that Abraham Lincoln did that shit, too.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
andrew schulz
So sometimes it works out.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
That's the shitty thing.
Sometimes the democratic process is wrong.
Sometimes you need...
joe rogan
Right.
Kennedy was a great president for as long as he stayed alive.
Yeah.
But maybe they would have hated him if he did two terms, too.
andrew schulz
Maybe.
joe rogan
They don't like anybody unless you go out in a box.
andrew schulz
That's so true.
If you die...
unidentified
Who do we like?
joe rogan
Lincoln and Kennedy.
Everybody else can eat shit.
We kind of like Reagan because he took a bullet and walked it off.
andrew schulz
George Washington.
And liberals do not like Reagan at all.
joe rogan
Right.
No.
andrew schulz
So he's like a right-wing hero, but he's a left-wing devil in a lot of ways.
joe rogan
Right, but he's the only right-wing hero of former presidents.
H.W. Bush was never a right-wing hero.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
G.W. is not a right-wing hero.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, Herbert Walker was one term.
W was two terms.
andrew schulz
Bro, it's amazing to see the hit Obama's taken.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Like, that to me is mind-boggling.
You have to constantly fight for your reputation even after you're president and a beloved president.
Like, that's why he's putting out that book.
He's literally like, oh shit, black people don't fuck with me like they used to?
Alright, I gotta put out a book to let everybody know I tried my best.
joe rogan
You think that's what it is?
andrew schulz
100%.
That black people don't fuck with anyone who's used to?
I think so.
joe rogan
What did Charlemagne ask him?
andrew schulz
He was like, he goes, you know, why didn't you do more for black people?
I think essentially.
Or why do people not know that?
And then he explained that...
The political process, the system itself, makes it very difficult to do specific things.
Like, he can't make a local government do something.
That's up to your local government.
That's why you have to vote for these people.
He's not wrong.
He's 100% right about that.
But still, the idea is that the president is our savior and he's going to do these things to make our lives better.
And when he doesn't, we're kind of resentful.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, the presidency getting in there and trying to get something to happen and try to make things happen has got to be brutally difficult.
andrew schulz
And that's why the thing about Trump is quite interesting.
He did these things that you think he made them happen, but he didn't actually.
He did a lot of these executive orders.
And the problem with the executive order is...
joe rogan
They can be switched.
andrew schulz
Exactly.
When you actually get a law passed, say what you want about Obamacare, and who gives a fuck if it's good or bad, I don't know enough to even tell you, but that shit is entrenched.
They've been trying to get rid of that shit for the last four years, and it hasn't really been taken all the way down, and because once you get something passed, it's kind of locked in.
But our system is built in a way where it's very difficult to lock things in.
And when you're not willing to make any of those compromises, like none of these fucking hacks are, it makes it very difficult to have long-lasting change.
joe rogan
Yeah, it really does.
andrew schulz
It sucks, dude.
Like, why would anybody want to be a politician?
You just gotta lie to people.
Like, you're the newest liar.
You know what I mean?
Like, Trump was an enigma, right?
Because he looked at least like he wasn't like, um, he wasn't under the control, I guess, of the elites.
You know what I mean?
But the rest of them, you're just the newest liar.
Hey, do us a favor.
Lie to these people for four years.
Oh, you got another four?
Okay, lie to them.
Tell them some shit that's gonna happen and it ain't.
And then someone else comes out.
You're the newest liar.
joe rogan
Trump should do.
andrew schulz
What's that?
joe rogan
A fucking podcast.
andrew schulz
Dude, he would murder!
Actually, he might need an audience.
He might need the reaction.
joe rogan
Do a live podcast.
andrew schulz
Give them all COVID. Have all the people in the audience have a fucking COVID hotspot every week.
COVIDcast.
Dude, I mean, I don't know.
It's just so interesting, like, going into politics.
Like, there's so many other ways to influence people, influence culture.
And I don't think they're done through...
joe rogan
Well, the other people that do it, first of all, the people that get involved, like Garcetti, the mayor of Los Angeles.
That guy's such a low-rung intellect that I don't know if there's anything else where he would be successful like that.
andrew schulz
How sad is that?
joe rogan
In a public space where you're speaking to large numbers of people, you're influencing large numbers of people.
What else would that guy do where he would have that kind of influence and power?
The reason why he got that gig is because nobody who's really intelligent and really ambitious and really on the ball wants to be the fucking mayor of LA. Weirdos want to be the mayor of LA. You have to be a sociopath.
andrew schulz
Every decision you make, some people end up dying.
joe rogan
Here's my favorite part about him, though.
andrew schulz
What is that?
joe rogan
He tried so hard to be progressive.
As progressive as possible.
He went out of his fucking way.
And now, Black Lives Matter has been protesting at his house every day for the last 22 days in a row.
Because it turns out that the Biden administration wants to use him for something.
jamie vernon
They might not.
joe rogan
With Transportation Secretary off the table, speculation remains over a possible cabinet position for Garcetti.
Yeah, but the point is, Black Lives Matter is at his fucking house every day protesting.
And they're protesting, first of all, defund the police.
They're as hardcore lefty Marxist as you can get.
Defund the police, and they're angry at the way he's handled the homeless situation.
He wants them to take care of the homeless situation and police brutality.
And so they don't want him failing upward.
They're calling him the worst mayor in history.
And these guys are the people that he was trying to appease, which is hilarious.
You can't...
Those hardcore leftists...
andrew schulz
Stop trying to people, please, man.
joe rogan
Those hardcore leftists, they don't want liberals.
They want leftists.
They want full-on, radical, change in the way we do everything.
Change the way...
Money is processed, changing the way people get paid, changing the way wealth is distributed.
There's no end to that game.
If you try to dip your toes in that water and court them, good luck, bitch.
You're going to be like Garcetti.
They're going to be pounding on your door 22 days in a row.
22 days in a row, man.
Look at that.
Defund the police.
Hashtag block Garcetti.
andrew schulz
You know the problem with the defund the police thing is I start to look into it.
And we were talking, we do a piece about that talks about part of this, but it's such a shame because the marketing, once again, is just trash.
A lot of cops would agree with a lot of the things within Defund the Police.
Cops don't want to deal with mental health issues.
The average cop does not want to handle people who are crazy.
They want to protect average citizens from, I don't know if it's more or less sane people, but from people who are breaking the law and potentially putting their lives at risk.
And that's what they get in there for.
And now they're dealing with people who are like mentally ill in the middle of a park.
And it's like, what the fuck is going on?
Don't we have another?
So I think part of the defund the police thing is like, why don't we reallocate funds so that there are specific groups of people that are positioned just to do this?
And I think the average cop would be like, yeah, that'd be kind of dope.
Why use wording that you know is inflammatory, you know is going to piss people off, and you know is not going to get the support from the people who actually would support it.
It's like the same thing with this democratic socialism.
Just take the word out.
The country already has so many of these programs that support poor people.
If you're poor, there is Medicare.
There is welfare.
There is Medicaid.
There are all these things that are kind of like socialist policies when you think about it.
We have, what is it for old people?
We have social security.
These are socialist programs, but when you put the fucking word in, you know it's going to rile people up.
You know it's going to piss people off.
joe rogan
Bernie Sanders was running on the platform of democratic socialism, and they were so scared of him, they had to rig the primaries in 2016, and they fucked him again in 2020. And he's a pussy for not saying.
andrew schulz
Nah, he's pussy for that shit.
I'm tight about that.
Nah, because I liked him a lot.
I liked him a lot because I thought he was actually trying to help, not win.
And all these motherfuckers just try to win, and I can tell it.
I might not have my sense of smell, Joe, but I can fucking smell when a motherfucker is just out here for victory.
And I was like, nah, this guy really wants to win.
If he gets in there, there'll be enough people in power that are like, yo, cut that shit out, bro.
We're not doing this 70% tax nonsense.
joe rogan
He wasn't They're trying to do that.
There's a version of him that you get from the media that are trying to criticize him.
And then there's a version of him you get when you actually talk to him about his policies like I did.
And when I talked to him for two hours or whatever the fuck it was, he's saying that that's not what they're trying to do.
What they're trying to do is put a tax on, a very small tax, less than one cent.
On Wall Street, right?
Wall Street speculation And he's like That alone Would generate Untold sums of money And pay for most of these programs He was about A lot of things That I was interested in Here's one Student debt That shit is ridiculous.
The idea that you graduate from college and you owe $200,000 and you're lucky you get a job that's $40,000 a year.
That's crazy.
Doesn't make any sense.
In Canada, you can get a free education.
In England, you can get a free education.
Why can't you get that here?
Medicine.
andrew schulz
Can I say one thing about the education thing, which is so interesting to me?
It behooves a country that generates its income off taxation to have an educated populace because then they will have higher paying jobs and you get more money!
Like, if you're the government, you should be forcing everybody to get a fucking master's degree so you can get more money.
unidentified
Yes.
andrew schulz
Okay, that's all I want to say.
It drives me crazy that people don't understand it.
joe rogan
Better educated society means less losers.
andrew schulz
Less losers, more income, more money that you get to tax them on.
Why would you create a situation where they would go out for lower paying jobs?
joe rogan
That's not the problem.
The problem is the government has been subsidizing education for so long, and that's the reason why these institutions charge so much money in the first place.
andrew schulz
Because they know it's going to get paid off no matter what, and they can make up these bullshit majors like fucking poetry.
joe rogan
Is that student debt?
Total federal student debt in the U.S. Is $1,722,666,300,000.
But it's just going up like crazy.
andrew schulz
I don't get into that debt stuff, bro.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
andrew schulz
Because it's like, it's not real.
joe rogan
That's $1.7 trillion.
andrew schulz
But it's not real, bro.
Like, none of this shit is real.
joe rogan
Okay.
andrew schulz
Okay, bro.
I was getting...
You know, I got into these, like, conspiracy...
Not conspiracy shit, but I was trying to understand, like, money a little bit during, like, corona.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Because I was like, how do you just make $3 trillion?
That's crazy, right?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
And, like, this guy broke it down to me.
His name is Joe Weisenthal.
I think his name is.
And he was like...
Debt is fine.
The way our economy works is through debt in the way that banks only need to keep 10% of the money in the bank.
So if a Chase Bank over there has lent out $100 million, it only needs $10 million in the bank.
So if you only need 10% of the actual reserves, you get to make up 90% of money out of thin air.
So you have $10 million in the bank, and then you come in, you go, I'd like a million dollars.
And then they go, alright, cool, here's a million.
They just push a button, you got a million.
They only need to keep $100,000 of your million in cash in the bank.
They just made $900,000 with the push of a button.
joe rogan
Hmm.
andrew schulz
Isn't that crazy?
It's called fractional reserve banking.
It's kind of a wild thing.
But once I found that out, I'm like, oh, debt is just whatever.
It's frivolous until the IRS comes, and then that shit's real.
joe rogan
Well, unless you owe the debt, and then it's real.
So that's the difference between student loan debt.
It's actual real money that kids owe when they get out of college, and they're like, fuck, what is this?
Then you're saddled down for the rest of your life.
Do you know there's people out there that are getting Social Security docked because they owe student loans?
andrew schulz
That's wild.
joe rogan
Because student loans are the only thing that you can't escape through bankruptcy?
andrew schulz
That's wild.
joe rogan
You could escape everything else.
You could buy businesses.
You could fuck up, buy a yacht, buy a house.
They take it all away from you.
You escape it.
You don't owe it anymore.
You run bankruptcy.
You're okay.
You don't get that option with student loans.
Isn't that interesting?
Because you're in bed with the government now.
Because the government has subsidized all that.
And the government has made sure that they protected these institutions so they can keep charging exorbitant amounts of money.
andrew schulz
So they're like...
Since we're the one giving you Social Security, we're the government, we're gonna take our cut first.
We want our little pound of flesh, that shit that you owe us, that you didn't pay back.
joe rogan
Yeah, so you're an old guy, you're at the end of the line, and your life didn't work out the way you wanted to, and you still have student debt.
Well, guess what, fuckface.
andrew schulz
You gotta pay me.
joe rogan
Fuck you, pay me.
Fuck you, pay me.
But I'm old.
I've worked in this factory my whole life.
I never got a job with my degree.
Fuck you.
Pay me.
Pay me.
We'll take it out of your money.
We're going to take it out of your check.
So you get like a $3,000 check every month?
No, you don't.
You get a $2,000 check every month.
andrew schulz
So what do you say?
Wipe it clean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wipe it clean.
Sounds crazy.
I don't know how to do that.
andrew schulz
Why can you wipe it clean, though?
joe rogan
Because it's fake.
andrew schulz
That's what I'm talking about, Joe!
It's not real!
joe rogan
Listen, no one is ever going to really wipe it clean with the powers that be and the way the government is structured right now and the way these banks and bankers have influence over politicians.
They're never going to wipe it clean.
These are just pipe dreams.
But...
It's at least the option of making some schools free and the option of giving people the opportunity to actually get an education free.
And then also, you know, a lot of people have talked about absolving student loan debt, and I think Biden even talked about that at one point in time.
It's not a bad idea if you want to keep the economy cracking.
Tax breaks are also a good idea because people spend money.
When they get tax breaks, they spend money.
When they spend money, the economy gets juiced up.
Those are the things that I was interested in with Bernie Sanders.
He obviously didn't want the tax break part.
But the thing with student loans and then healthcare.
The idea that we're supposed to be a country, right?
A country is supposed to be a community.
We're America.
We're together.
If people get sick and ill, we're going to spend our money to fix the streets.
We're going to spend our money to repair bridges.
But we don't spend our money to make sure that our brothers and sisters are able to get healthcare if they're ill or injured.
And then they're in insurmountable debt if that happens and they're fucked for the rest of their life because they broke their leg and they didn't have insurance.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
andrew schulz
What is the argument against it?
What would be the conservative approach to healthcare?
joe rogan
Well, the free market approach is you want people to compete and you want them to get the most value for their education.
If a guy's a better surgeon, he should be able to generate more income than a guy.
andrew schulz
And that would be limited in the case where there was a public free healthcare.
joe rogan
Or you could have people inside the public system, and then you could have private options as well, like they do in Canada.
In Canada, you have your public healthcare, so if you're a person of moderate income, you can't afford a private doctor to do surgery on you, you could still get your surgery from a lot of very great surgeons.
But you also have the option to seek out an elite specialist.
But a lot of people from Canada before COVID were coming down to the United States to get surgery.
Because some of the best surgeons are here, which speaks to the power of the free market.
andrew schulz
Right, so you have to find a way to kind of like balance those two things.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to find a way to balance it out, but healthcare in general should be a right.
It should be a thing that we give people when we bring them into our culture and they contribute.
You contribute taxes, some of that taxes should go to healthcare.
andrew schulz
Okay, here's my question.
If we contribute taxes and have universal tax pay healthcare, can we fat shame?
joe rogan
We should, because those people are mooching off the dime, and they're ruining it.
They're messing up the curve.
Well, instead of fat shame, what they should do is, like, there should be some sort of education of the negative aspects of being overweight and promote it heavily.
Because you can't do that today.
Because if you do, you'll be called a fat shamer.
Which is just nonsense.
andrew schulz
So that's the interesting thing.
Like, maybe the reason why people have been able to get away with that is because we haven't been codependent enough.
And maybe places where we are codependent, where this person being unhealthy actually affects my wallet.
And not only affects my wallet, like, you could be taking my ventilator.
Or, not my ventilator, but like, my granddad's ventilator or something like that, right?
Like, you are young.
You shouldn't need a ventilator.
But you chose to eat all these things or not treat yourself right.
And now you're taking away a hospital bed from someone who really fucking needs it.
Like, at what point, like, Corona really put that shit in perspective, but also with the universal healthcare, I wonder if we could start having that conversation and it's not looked at as, like, hateful.
It's literally just looked at as, like, hey, this is pretty reasonable.
If we're all in this together, we need to start acting like it a little bit.
You know when you're on a plane and then you're too heavy so they say, yo, can you go to the other side?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
You just do it.
Right?
You don't go, no, I paid for a seat 3B. You go, okay, I'll balance the fucking plane.
joe rogan
What kind of planes are you on when they're telling you to move your seat?
andrew schulz
It's a little plane.
It's a little plane to New York.
joe rogan
Okay, Lizzo Sparks body debate with 10-day smoothie diet.
andrew schulz
Yo, let this girl lose the weight, bro.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
What is the body debate?
jamie vernon
They got mad at her for posting issues on a diet.
andrew schulz
Because she's like, I love my body, but now she's trying to lose weight.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
jamie vernon
They got mad at her for talking, like, she posted photos that she was on a diet.
So people got mad at her.
joe rogan
They got mad at her for trying to lose weight?
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
They got mad at Adele for losing weight.
But that's just fat, sloppy people that don't want anybody else to work hard.
There's a lot of people that, like, I like being fat and sloppy, and she's fat and sloppy.
You were my fat, sloppy hero, and now you're trying to get healthy?
Fuck you, bitch.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They get angry and they eat more cake.
They're angry.
They're eating hoagies and fucking chips and fries.
Can't believe her with her bullshit diet.
She's hurting my feelings.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
yeah bpc157 lift weights get to that gym pussies it is crazy lizzo slams critics who say she's promoting diet culture hilarious diet culture oh you're promoting health culture i'm a big girl who did a smoothie detox every big girl should do whatever they want with their bodies how about every person Yo, you know what's crazy?
She's trying to lose weight.
andrew schulz
She's trying to lose weight, but this is where she fucked up.
She branded herself as the fat girl, and now you realize that that's unhealthy.
joe rogan
Well, she leaned into it.
She was getting a lot of love for being a fat girl.
andrew schulz
Big time.
And that's why you need to be careful.
That's the thing people do all the time.
They just ride the wave.
They see a wave coming up, and they just jump on that shit.
And then they get all this support, and they think the support is for them, but it's really just the wave.
You guys agree on the same thing.
The woke thing is the same thing.
And the extreme right wing is the same thing.
These characters hop on, they latch on, they leech.
And they think they're celebs.
And then they divert a little bit from that wave.
Garcetti.
They outside your house.
joe rogan
Boom.
andrew schulz
Isn't that interesting?
You create your own thing.
It takes longer to get there.
But at least the people that fuck with you understand that you are on your own path.
And they have to make a choice to opt in to what you're doing.
Does that make sense?
joe rogan
There's a look that Garcetti has all the time, like he's on the strongest antidepressants imaginable.
You know his look in his eyes?
andrew schulz
Those pupils?
unidentified
This look.
joe rogan
There's a look in his eyes, like there's no one's there.
andrew schulz
You're happy to not be out there anymore.
unidentified
He's not really there.
joe rogan
Oh, I love it.
It's like his eyeballs are remotely broadcast into his head.
They're not really there.
It's like a Zoom call.
andrew schulz
The Incredibles 2?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like something's not right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You look at his face, he's just got this...
Like, no matter what has happened, fucking LA's on fire.
andrew schulz
Doesn't matter.
joe rogan
It has to end.
andrew schulz
Look at that guy.
What a dope.
joe rogan
He's such a dope.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
The fact that this fucking guy made it to the mayor of one of the largest cities, if not the largest city in the fucking country, is crazy.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's kind of a...
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
But who the fuck wants that job now?
When you find out that BLM's gonna be knocking on his door every day for 22 days in a row.
andrew schulz
I just...
joe rogan
Protesting.
And you have to live in the mayor's mansion, which is hilarious, so everybody knows where you are.
andrew schulz
No, you don't.
joe rogan
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
The governor lives in the governor's mansion, too.
andrew schulz
You have to?
joe rogan
Yes!
andrew schulz
What if you just don't want to live there?
joe rogan
No, that's the job.
I asked Governor Abbott when I was chilling with the governor of Texas.
andrew schulz
You are moving and grooving, baby.
joe rogan
I was chilling with the governor.
He took me to his governor's mansion.
Gave me a tour of it.
It's really cool.
They got old shit there from the original governors.
Like historical stuff.
They have books that tell you what all the different things are on the walls.
And this guy's pipe.
And that guy's fucking chair.
And this guy's cane.
And everybody leaves behind something when they leave office.
But you have to live there.
Everybody knows where you live.
So you're the governor?
Okay, good.
I want you in that house.
andrew schulz
He's in a wheelchair, that governor, right?
unidentified
Yes.
andrew schulz
Did they make it wheelchair accessible for him?
unidentified
Yes.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it was wheelchair accessible originally, but it is wheelchair accessible.
andrew schulz
Yo, that's a power move right there, bro.
joe rogan
To change things?
andrew schulz
To be in a wheelchair and be like, nah, I'm still gonna do this shit.
joe rogan
Well, he was in a wheelchair when he was 24. He was running and he got hit with a tree.
andrew schulz
A tree fell?
joe rogan
A tree fell and hit him when he was running.
andrew schulz
Unbelievable bad luck.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy bad luck.
andrew schulz
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
Shattered his spine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Unbelievable.
I mean, just imagine the things that could have gone different in his day for that to not happen.
If he stayed one more second brushing his teeth, you know, like one second, and he would have missed that tree.
The tree would have missed him, rather.
joe rogan
Or left five seconds earlier running.
Ready?
Go.
Hold on.
Now go.
andrew schulz
Did you ever ask him about that?
joe rogan
No.
You don't want to give someone a like, have you ever thought how much better your life?
He's thought about it.
Yeah, well, of course.
andrew schulz
Can he still go to town or whatever?
joe rogan
I don't know.
andrew schulz
Because Stephen Hawking was piping broads.
joe rogan
That's what I heard.
andrew schulz
Yeah, got one pregs.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew schulz
I think he got one pregs.
I think he was cheating on this girl.
joe rogan
He liked to go to strip clubs.
andrew schulz
That's a fucking legend right there, dude.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of pictures of Stephen Hawking.
Eric Weinstein told me about that.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
How's Eric?
joe rogan
He's great.
I remember you were fucking with him in the comedy store.
It was so funny.
Because dudes who are not used to being around comics, it's so funny when a comic starts jabbing at him, fuck with him, you see him like, what?
What's happening?
He's gotten used to it now.
andrew schulz
No, because what happened was, I think I was busting his balls on the fighter and the kid, and then he DM'd me, and he said something in the DMs like, I must have run over your cat, or something like that.
He said something corny-ass shit, right?
And I was like, but I guess a lot of people- But I don't know, maybe they're not used to like, you know, when you see someone in person, then the same energy is kept.
Like, if I make fun of you on a podcast, like, I will say that to your face.
unidentified
And the people that I won't, I'm not gonna make fun of on a podcast.
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's supposed to be fun.
andrew schulz
It's fun if I'm both of your balls.
So he goes, when we were there, he's like, oh, this is my friend Eric.
unidentified
And I was like, oh yeah, you tweeted me that thing about me running over your cat, or you running over my cat.
andrew schulz
And then he was like, nah, nah, I don't know what you're talking about.
unidentified
I'll show you the DM, bitch!
I'm broken!
joe rogan
Listen, that dude is too smart for his own good.
Really?
Oh my god.
When he talks about physics and he goes down these wormholes and starts talking about things and explaining geometric patterns and stuff to us.
andrew schulz
Right.
Do you ever think he's just making that shit up?
joe rogan
No, he's not making it up.
Dude, he is a legitimate super genius.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I trust his opinion on almost everything.
andrew schulz
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's a very, very, very smart man.
andrew schulz
Alright, I'm gonna check him out a little bit.
joe rogan
His brother is as well.
They have whatever the fuck's going on in their genetics.
Someone in their family who's smart as fuck.
They're both exceptional brains.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
What do they do for a living?
joe rogan
Well, Eric is a mathematician and his brother is an evolutionary biologist.
andrew schulz
But what does that mean if you're a mathematician?
You teach people math?
joe rogan
Well, he works for Teal Capital, Peter Teal Company.
andrew schulz
That's what I was making fun of him for.
unidentified
And I was like, yeah, you just gotta say what Peter Thiel wants you to say.
andrew schulz
That's the big dick.
Yo, that motherfucker does not play around.
Peter Thiel, is that how you pronounce his last name?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Thiel or Thiel?
joe rogan
Thiel.
andrew schulz
That dude, that's big swinging dang-a-lang right there, bro.
That guy!
joe rogan
He's a nice guy too.
andrew schulz
I'm just saying, that's the difference between politicians and Big Swing and Dangalang.
Politicians talk all that shit.
That motherfucker waited.
joe rogan
Peter Thiel had a party at his house and he brought over the guy who wrote Chariots of the Gods.
andrew schulz
What is the fuck that guy's name?
joe rogan
The German fellow.
andrew schulz
Oh, no, I don't know.
I'm thinking something else.
joe rogan
Von Daniken, that's right.
He brought over Eric Von Daniken and invited me over as well.
And he made him read it to you.
No, we all had like a lunch around the table.
He has these like power dinners and power lunches.
They're really cool.
unidentified
Let's go.
joe rogan
It brings over interesting people and everyone has conversations.
andrew schulz
That's the dream.
joe rogan
I went to one of the dinners at his house.
Then I went to one of the lunches at his house and he brought over Eric Von Daniken and the guy was asking, we were all asking him questions about his theories about ancient aliens.
andrew schulz
And what did he think?
joe rogan
He's a believer, meaning that it's not necessarily based on realistic interpretations of this ancient shit.
Like, his version of the plaque at Palenque that shows, it looks like it shows a guy in a rocket ship taking off into heaven.
But someone who is a Mayan scholar then explained to me that the imagery that is on display in that is that iconography of the flames below them and all that.
That's all been explained in multiple texts and that this type of imagery exists all throughout Mayan culture and doesn't have anything to do with space travel.
It has to do with the underworld.
I legitimately forget exactly what he told me, but I remember doing a short dive into it going, okay, I kind of see why someone would, if they didn't understand Mayan language and these Mayan hieroglyphs, they would look at it that way.
andrew schulz
I saw those pyramids.
Those are the ones in Teotachlan or whatever like that, right outside Mexico City.
joe rogan
How do you say that?
Teotihuacan?
unidentified
Teotihuacan?
andrew schulz
Yeah, I'm not exact.
But it was really cool.
joe rogan
No, that's not Mexico City.
Is that Palenque's outside of Mexico City?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
One is outside Mexico City.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
andrew schulz
Our guide said that they were just trying to mimic mountains, and that if you look at them with the mountain range in the background, they actually are situated in the same way that the mountains are.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean the actual pyramids themselves?
andrew schulz
Yeah, the actual pyramids themselves.
So they didn't look at them as pyramids.
They were like, no, we just made mountains because mountains were the sickest shit back in the day, so we just started to make them as well.
joe rogan
There's a lot of interpretations of why they did what they did.
The problem is we don't really know because they're dead.
andrew schulz
You want them aliens, bro.
joe rogan
No, I don't think it is aliens.
andrew schulz
No, but you want them.
joe rogan
Oh, I want aliens right now.
andrew schulz
You want aliens.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
No doubt.
andrew schulz
And you're telling me you haven't used any of your influence to see if there's aliens, Joe?
joe rogan
Dude, I have people on almost every month that either have seen UFOs or know...
I'm getting Travis Walton.
The guy who got a fire in the sky.
We're working on getting him.
andrew schulz
You need to get the real deal.
joe rogan
I need to get Trump right after he gets out of office.
andrew schulz
You need to have Trump sit down here.
joe rogan
Get him some MDMA and have him tell the truth.
andrew schulz
Dude.
joe rogan
Just have him sit here and just tell the truth.
I just always wanted people to love me and I felt like the only way they did is if they were scared.
And so I acted like a bully.
Like a bully.
I guess I was a bully.
I didn't want to be a bully, but I felt like that was the only way they would listen.
And I eventually wanted to not be a bully, but I never could get away with it.
And I just kept getting away from it.
I just kept doing deals.
And then one day I realized I'm 74 and I'm still doing the same thing, but now I'm president.
I just don't...
What do I do now?
I mean, I have to say that I won, even though I'm pretty sure I lost.
And I don't have the fuck to do.
Introspective Trump.
unidentified
Introspective.
It would be so great.
joe rogan
High on ecstasy.
Sitting on a couch with a bunch of fucking, like, Persian rugs and shit.
Like, some hippie compound.
andrew schulz
Just Burning Man Trump.
joe rogan
Yeah, Burning Man Trump.
unidentified
That's what you need.
joe rogan
Some crisscross applesauce in some North Hollywood apartment.
Yes.
He's trying to figure out his life.
Tripping balls.
andrew schulz
It'd be cool to see some aliens, bro.
joe rogan
A hundred percent.
andrew schulz
I'd like to see that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
You think your boy Elon is going to Mars and like it's...
Yeah, I see.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's a shirt.
Occupy Mars.
andrew schulz
But do you think that...
joe rogan
He's not going.
He's going to send some dummy up there.
andrew schulz
Oh, he's going around too?
joe rogan
He's staying here.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's never going.
andrew schulz
So just no interest in seeing what you've created?
joe rogan
Uh-uh.
People die up there.
andrew schulz
I think he's going, bro.
joe rogan
He might go.
andrew schulz
I think he's going, dude.
joe rogan
He might go.
He might go.
Look, if they can develop some sort of incredible city on Mars, and he's still alive, like when he's 80, they might fucking shoot him up there.
unidentified
Yeah, he's going.
joe rogan
He might live out the last days of his life.
andrew schulz
Wouldn't you...
If you built a fucking city on Mars?
joe rogan
No, because it's still on Mars.
It's like a shit neighborhood.
Elon Musk says SpaceX's first starship trip to Mars could fly in four years.
It could.
You know what else could happen?
You could grow a new dick.
That could happen.
andrew schulz
Could you though?
joe rogan
Yeah, you have stem cells.
andrew schulz
Is that how send cells work?
joe rogan
But no, for real.
They might be able to send something to Mars in four years, but they keep saying that.
Oh, he referred to the launch opportunity that arises every 26 months.
andrew schulz
See, when people do shit like that...
joe rogan
Ah, because Mars is closest.
Yeah, that's gross.
When they do things like that in the title, like, what?
In four years, you're going to put people on Mars?
That's not what he said, bitch.
He was referring to the opportunity to launch.
It doesn't mean it's going to be ready.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an interesting time for space travel because the private sector has gotten involved.
Jeff Bezos with all that cheddar.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
You see his wife giving away all that money?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
She gave away like four billies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She didn't know what to do with it.
It all came for free.
andrew schulz
Nah, she worked for that.
joe rogan
She did, right?
unidentified
She worked for that.
She worked.
andrew schulz
I mean, look at that guy.
joe rogan
How much do you think she got?
What's the total?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I mean, it seems egregious, right?
There should be a cap for divorce money.
Don't you think?
joe rogan
What is the cap?
A billion?
andrew schulz
I think a billion is fine.
joe rogan
A lot of girls are complaining, fuck that, that's bullshit.
Girls look at divorce settlements like it's their team.
It's like the fucking Sixers should have got that point.
That ref is a fucking asshole.
unidentified
It was rigged!
It was rigged.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
They do.
They look at it like it's a team game.
unidentified
Bro, and then every time a dude comes up in a divorce, like I think Kelly Clarkson's ass, we were talking about that.
joe rogan
Girls hate it.
Why does he want that money?
Get your own money.
andrew schulz
Get your money, king!
joe rogan
Go earn your money.
unidentified
Yeah, like, I don't know.
jamie vernon
When they divorced earlier this year, in June, it says the settlement was $38 billion.
andrew schulz
However...
jamie vernon
By December 2020, net worth estimated up to $62 billion.
andrew schulz
Because of stock options?
jamie vernon
I mean, it's all in stock.
andrew schulz
Because he doesn't have any actual money.
jamie vernon
They get all Amazon stock, yeah.
And it's gone up so much.
joe rogan
Unbelievable.
So she gave away three.
She's like, what is this fucking pittance?
andrew schulz
Nothing.
joe rogan
Be gone.
I give away three and I feel good about myself.
I show up at cocktail parties and let everybody know.
jamie vernon
She's giving away $6 billion this year, according to this.
joe rogan
$6 billion.
That ain't shit for her.
She's got another $54 in the bank.
unidentified
Wow.
andrew schulz
But still, low-key.
That's kind of dope.
That's kind of dope.
Giveaway four billion?
joe rogan
She needs to get herself a man.
andrew schulz
You don't think she's getting...
joe rogan
Fucking crazy, super-athlete man.
That's just...
andrew schulz
Oh, yeah.
You don't think that happened immediately?
joe rogan
No, it's hard to get a man for money.
Women, you can get for money.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard to get a man for money.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, women are accustomed.
It's like, there's a certain kind of woman that will gravitate towards a wealthy, disgusting man.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
It's very rare the other way.
She redefines fuck you money.
L-O-L. But it's funny that she didn't earn it.
You know, all the richest women in the world, that's how they got all their money.
andrew schulz
Yeah, divorce.
joe rogan
Except for that Elizabeth Holmes lady for a brief shining moment.
She was our girl!
unidentified
What's that?
joe rogan
She was the woman that ran Theranos, which was a fraudulent blood testing company that put...
Thousands of people at risk because they didn't really test their blood.
This company called Theranos, she dressed like Steve Jobs, used a fake voice.
You don't know about her?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Bro, she's amazing.
She is literally...
andrew schulz
Greatest con man ever?
joe rogan
The poster girl for what is wrong with rooting for a gender.
Because they wanted so badly to have their own genius.
So this genius copied Steve Jobs, dressed like him, and talked like this.
She talked in a deep voice.
But it was a fake voice.
andrew schulz
She's kind of a piece though, a little bit.
For like a tech genius?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But she's not a tech genius.
She left college when she was 19. Started this company.
It's all fake, dude.
She was full of shit.
It was all fake.
andrew schulz
But nobody questioned it because they were scared of being sexist.
joe rogan
People in the company were questioning it and then it eventually all fell apart and now she's in trial.
Now she's fucked and she's going to trial and she's trying to use mental health as a defense in the trial.
andrew schulz
Come on, come on, come on.
joe rogan
That's like that clock boy shit.
At one point in time, she was worth $9 billion.
andrew schulz
Cash out, babe.
joe rogan
For a brief moment.
andrew schulz
Just get out.
joe rogan
For a brief moment.
She should have put all the chips on the table and just flew to Bali and just bought herself a palace on top of a jungle somewhere and just partied where they can't send you home.
Where there's no extradition.
But she's fucked now, man.
12 felony fraud charges.
unidentified
Yikes.
joe rogan
There is a great podcast.
I think it's called The Dropout.
I don't remember who put it together.
Is it a Wondry podcast?
It might be Wondry.
I fucking love them.
Those...
Is it them?
ABC. It's the dropout.
It's fucking incredible, dude.
And it just goes into detail about how nuts it is.
She was banging her business partner.
They would show up and work together and pretend they lived in different places.
They were living together.
And his name was Sonny, this Indian cat.
He drove around in a fucking Lamborghini.
So he would show up and they were just bullshitting.
They had, like, fake blood testing machines, and people would try them and go, oh, the machine's not working, we're just gonna do you the regular way.
And they wound up doing so many people the regular way because the machines didn't work, and Walgreens bought into them, or Walmart?
Walgreens.
Walgreens.
Walgreens bought into them and ordered, like, thousands of machines.
They hustled a lot of people, but one of the reasons why they hustled all these people is because people wanted to believe this narrative that there was this woman genius who set up this company.
She's out there kicking ass.
I got skeptical for a very interesting reason.
This is how I got it.
This is long before she got called out for it.
She did this speech at this women's empowerment thing, and she was talking.
I was like, that girl sounds like an idiot.
I was like, this does not sound like something that a genius says.
Like, whatever you think about, you know, name your tech genius, whichever one.
When they speak about things, they have an understanding of what they're talking about that shows that there's like some fucking high horsepower intelligence behind them.
She had none of that.
She was talking.
It's like, I think it's so amazing.
And I just want to tell girls that you should go for it.
And you can make it.
I'm like, oh my god, that bitch is an idiot.
I was like, watch this.
I was like, what is happening here?
And then I saw a fraud chart.
And I just started diving down the rabbit hole.
I got really interested in it.
Just because sometimes you just smell bullshit.
And I saw this speech.
And the speech, they weren't calling bullshit on the speech at all.
People were saying, look.
Look, Elizabeth Holmes is amazing.
She made $9 billion and she gave this speech.
So I was like, oh, let's see the speech.
I like inspirational speeches.
I like people that are winners.
I saw that speech and I was like, not her.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Not buying it.
See, you can find that.
jamie vernon
I mean, I have one that says inspirational speech, but there's another one.
It's her TED Talk.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't a TED Talk.
She was speaking for some women's conference.
And it's like, girls are amazing.
It's like, what you're doing, girls, is so kick-ass.
I was like, this girl's an idiot.
She's not a genius.
She's not a tech genius.
You talk male, female, whatever.
You talk to those tech geniuses, they have a way of communicating.
There's some fireworks going off in that brain.
Let me see if this is it.
unidentified
Signs and symptoms.
joe rogan
Give me some...
unidentified
But diseases often begin so much earlier.
jamie vernon
That's her voice?
joe rogan
No, it's a fake voice she uses.
unidentified
...first appear.
And any person who's gotten into the process...
joe rogan
She's using a fake voice.
unidentified
...of losing someone they love.
andrew schulz
So she's speaking deeper?
joe rogan
She's doing this on purpose.
unidentified
...because they find out too late in the disease progression process that they're really sick knows that nothing matters more...
joe rogan
The voice comes and goes sometimes too.
I think one of the things that sold her out was like people she went to school with was like, that bitch does not talk like that.
Like what happened?
Did you just smoke a million cigars every day?
That's not the speech.
There was a speech at some woman's thing.
It's not her TED talk either.
She's accepting some award at some woman's thing.
unidentified
She's like, I just want to say, girls are out there.
andrew schulz
Do you remember when Ghislaine Maxwell was speaking at her TEDx or whatever?
joe rogan
No!
andrew schulz
Oh, it's crazy.
joe rogan
She did?
andrew schulz
Dude, it's amazing.
She's talking about being a submarine captain or something like that.
She's like, we're gonna make the oceans a country.
It's so obvious that she's full of absolute dog shit as she's talking.
unidentified
It's amazing to watch someone bullshit other human beings, just lie to their faces.
joe rogan
Did you find the Elizabeth Holmes one?
Okay.
andrew schulz
I can't believe I never heard about this story.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's an amazing story.
It's going on right now.
The trial is about to start.
andrew schulz
So she goes to jail, right?
Like, this is no-brainer.
You go to jail for something like this.
joe rogan
Oh, she's going to jail for a long time.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
She fucked over a lot of very...
Like, Betsy DeVos, I believe she gave $100 million.
andrew schulz
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of, like...
unidentified
I am so incredibly humbled and so honored to be here.
It's an incredible group of women.
I want to just take a minute to say, especially to the young women in the room here, do everything you can to be the best in science and math and engineering.
It's our actions that will determine this new stereotype around women being the best in science and technology and engineering, and it's that That our little girls will see when they start to think about...
joe rogan
Hit the brakes.
I saw that.
I was like, that's an idiot.
Like, be the best?
You're just going to be the best because you're a girl?
You're going to be a girl and be...
How about do your best?
What are you talking about?
Be the best?
Be the best?
You mean against other men that have been dominating the field and winning Nobel Prizes for centuries?
What are you saying?
Girls, it's just so important that you be the best in math.
I'm like, that's an idiot.
That's not a genius.
That's an idiot.
andrew schulz
You know what's interesting?
We always put this pressure on women to be better at math and science.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
But we don't like guys that are good at that.
Like, they're nerds.
Like, we make fun of the guys.
joe rogan
But the thing is, there's not a lot of women that excel in those areas.
unidentified
Because they don't have to.
joe rogan
So we put pressure.
But no, that's not what it is.
What it is is that women generally, and this is a generalization, right?
There's women MMA fighters, right?
There's women scientists.
Women generally don't gravitate towards those fields.
That's all it is.
andrew schulz
But why would you?
joe rogan
But they don't find it interesting.
Well, why would men?
Some men do.
andrew schulz
Well, they don't have a choice.
They're alone.
Right?
Like, find me the guy with all the friends that's like, you know what?
I'm going to be an applied physicist.
Find me the guy that is going to play pickup basketball every single day after school that's like, you know what?
I'm going to dedicate my life to astrology.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
andrew schulz
You spoke to Elon.
You were here with him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Tough guy to talk to.
joe rogan
I have an easy time talking to him.
andrew schulz
Bro.
joe rogan
I like talking to him.
andrew schulz
Brilliant!
joe rogan
He's right there.
No, I'm telling you, if you've met him, you could talk to him.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
Okay, he's got like a rhythm thing.
joe rogan
No, he's remarkably...
andrew schulz
Like, could you watch the fight with him?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
He's remarkably accessible.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
He's very, very normal when you're around him.
andrew schulz
Interesting.
joe rogan
Obviously ridiculously smart, but very normal to be around him.
andrew schulz
No question whether they're smart.
I'm just saying, like, sometimes these folks are often kind of like loners, so they have to go into that thing, and they find out...
joe rogan
It's not even just that.
It's not even that.
This, for whatever reason...
There's certain people that are males that have a propensity towards those things, whether it's science or engineering or those technology disciplines.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
And less women are interested in them.
And so women look at it and go, oh, there must be some sort of systemic oppression that keeps women from rising to the top.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I don't believe in that part.
joe rogan
But it's not.
I don't know if there is any oppression, but that's not what the problem is.
The problem is less women are interested in those fields.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Same thing with comedy, right?
It's just like, if 1% of the total amount of people are going to be successful at it, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And 90% of the comics are male, and 10%- It's not that women are getting suppressed.
Exactly.
It's more just like, there's so many more dudes that do this, so 9 out of the 10 are going to happen to be guys just because that's how the numbers are going to work out.
joe rogan
What Hitchens talked about, that women generally don't use humor as a social tool.
It's not a thing that they use to try to get men to like them, like men use to try to get women to like them.
andrew schulz
You know what's interesting though?
Social media has kind of changed that.
In that, like, there's currency to being funny now.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
As a girl, specifically.
Like, my girl will share all these, like, it'll be, like, Instagram videos or, like, TikToks or these kind of things with me.
And they are female-centric humor, tapping to things that women really find funny.
They can be little things that are just silly.
Like, a girl impersonating her boyfriend in the house or her husband in the house.
And it's just, like, a really quick video of, like, him opening up every cupboard and drawer and just leaving it open.
And, like, that's how I walk around.
Me, too.
Exactly.
And I laughed.
I was like, oh, that's kind of funny.
My girl dies laughing because she sees it.
And I'm like, oh, this is a new thing.
Now that there is a currency and value attached to being funny as a girl, you can get followers and you can get all these sponsorships and everything like that.
I think a lot of girls that are really good at it are starting to get, not only starting to get, but lean into it in a way that maybe they hadn't in the past because they're like, well, what am I going to get out of just being the funny girl?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, also, think about it this way.
They're also doing this for other girls, so they have their audience, just like they would talk to their friends, but instead of having to go on stage in front of a group of fucking idiot dudes that are not going to get it and going to be aggressive.
andrew schulz
Yeah, they have like a, for lack of a better word, a safe space.
unidentified
Yes!
andrew schulz
Like a supportive environment for the comedy they want to do.
It's almost like when like the nerd comics started doing the shows inside the comic book stores.
unidentified
Yes.
andrew schulz
It's like they finally had a place where like all their references that all of them and their friends found hilarious were definitely going to work.
They created their own scene.
It's just interesting how that shit works out.
joe rogan
It is.
andrew schulz
You see these girls and like they're going to get huge followings and they're literally trying to be funny.
They're not trying to be slutty.
They're not like doing injections all over their fucking face and all the filters.
They're going for laughs.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
And girls are gravitating to it.
And it might be completely outside of our sphere of comedy.
Like, you and I, it might not hit us, but they're going to be famous and successful.
And I wonder if another generation of chicks are coming up seeing that, going, oh, I might not be the hottest chick, but I can get a lot of value and have a career if I lean into this funny side that I always kind of suppress because I thought dudes weren't into it.
I'd be really curious to see what happens in the next 10, 15 years.
joe rogan
I think there's definitely going to be some that rise up.
You know, there's going to be...
Probably more women that are interested in doing that than interested in doing stand-up because you don't have to go in front of a crowd.
andrew schulz
Stand-up's painful, bro.
It's not for everybody, dog.
unidentified
It's brutal.
andrew schulz
It's not fighting.
I hate when people make that fucking metaphor where they're just like, calm.
It's just like boxing.
It's just like...
I've done both.
Nothing is like that.
Like, it is totally different.
But...
In that you are subjecting yourself to this crippling pain, potentially.
It takes an odd individual to do that.
And it's really not for everybody.
joe rogan
And men in comedy don't root for other men in comedy.
Like, guys in comedy need to stick together.
Guys in comedy need to defend ourselves against all these asshole women that talk all this horrible misandry about male life and men behaviors.
Yeah.
Women, women, stand up for other women in that regard.
That's what's so whack about that video.
And she's like, you know, girls, you need to concentrate on being the best.
Girls should be the best at math, the best at science.
That is such stupid.
The way she's saying it is such a stupid, simplistic, fake interpretation.
She doesn't have any connection to those words.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's just saying these dumb things that she thinks you're supposed to say.
andrew schulz
To get an applause, yeah.
joe rogan
Girls, just try to be the best.
You're gonna be the best at science, the best at math.
Oh, the best.
The best.
You know what you're asking?
You're asking these girls to surpass these fucking super eggheads that are barely human.
unidentified
Virgins!
andrew schulz
They've got no pussy ever!
joe rogan
Ever.
andrew schulz
There's no way.
That's an interesting...
joe rogan
They're barely human.
The top of the food chain scientists, probably a lot of them are spectrum-y and fucking full-on geniuses at a scope that morons like you and I could never really...
We don't even understand what kind of person that is.
It's like the next level of person.
andrew schulz
Is it the next level, though, dude?
Or is it like...
joe rogan
Well, if you want new shit, if you want technology, if you want innovation...
andrew schulz
Yes, I want innovation, I want technology, but I don't want communication and socialization to be that.
So it's a tricky thing.
It's like, I want the good things that you guys are providing, but I don't want dinner in that way.
Does that make sense?
I still like busting balls.
I still like this hang.
I like just talking about ideas.
joe rogan
You're not them.
Look, they can't do what you do, and you can't do what they do.
We need all kinds of people.
andrew schulz
That's right, as long as we're not all gravitating that way.
joe rogan
Yeah, we need the whole fucking spectrum of humans.
andrew schulz
Let's keep them.
They do their thing.
joe rogan
We need it all.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
You come up with the smart shit.
We make it funny, right?
And communicate it to the world.
joe rogan
Well, people who are generally intelligent, they enjoy humor that they don't come up with, too.
They probably enjoy your kind of shit because they don't think that way.
Yes.
The fucking punchlines.
One of the things that you figured out how to do, which is brilliant in this pandemic time, is the way you do your videos.
The punchlines come so fast.
There's so many of them.
And this is why it's important.
It's the opposite of these Zoom stand-ups.
Because the Zoom stand-up, it's like you're playing it out like you're in a theater with 2,000 people.
So you've got these pauses.
That don't make any sense because there's no one in the room.
unidentified
You get it.
andrew schulz
I'm shocked that people didn't get this, but I would watch the guys doing the monologues, like the late night guys, and see them wait for laughs on jokes where nobody's there.
joe rogan
Right, because they're doing them from their house.
andrew schulz
Exactly.
But I'm like, Oh, do you not realize that this is a conversation and you're being really awkward in this conversation?
joe rogan
Super awkward.
andrew schulz
You're waiting for a reaction that someone at home is not giving you.
So I was like, in order for us to do jokes, you've seen my stand-up.
I don't go close to as fast.
I'm milk silence.
I love that tension.
But on this, I was like, I can't wait for punchlines.
So when we're putting these things together, we're writing these jokes and And then we would, I literally would make sure at the end of every punchline, there's the beginning of something else.
Even if, like, sometimes I'll say, I'll just give away, every time I come in here, I give away all my tricks.
But I'll say now, at the end of a line.
The punchline could be inflatable, fucked all.
Now!
Now is gonna cover the gap.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
Because now lets you know at home, I'm not waiting for you to laugh.
If you want to laugh, that's cool.
If not, that's great.
Everything's fine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
But just finding a way...
I gotta give credit to my team, man.
You met the guys that came in here.
Mark Gagnon, he co-created it with me, and he wrote it with me.
Robbie Slovik wrote it with me.
And Effa Ilguy, another guy.
We wrote it together.
And then Alex Media is my video guy.
He produced it.
He directed the whole thing.
joe rogan
Shout out to all those dudes.
And they're all COVID-free.
andrew schulz
Yeah, we all got it.
joe rogan
What is this?
andrew schulz
Oh, this is a trailer.
joe rogan
So the show comes out tomorrow, which is the day that this comes out.
andrew schulz
Yeah, so now it's out as this thing is out.
joe rogan
Yeah, as this thing is out.
And it's all streaming on Netflix.
How many episodes did you do?
andrew schulz
Four episodes, each one is 15 minutes, and it's Coronavirus, Conspiracy Theories, Black Lives Matter, and then like a nation divided, like political division.
joe rogan
How much time does it take from getting the concept of what the theme is going to be to finishing a video?
andrew schulz
This thing took...
I've never worked longer or harder on anything in my entire life.
It literally almost broke me.
Three months of...
I didn't see anybody.
The last month was 100 hours a week minimum.
unidentified
Whoa!
andrew schulz
The last two weeks was two hours of sleep.
Jesus Christ for four videos that are 15 minutes long each it's cuz I mean, you know the joke density dude.
Yeah, it's so and they're like Terry Schiavo jokes like you You have like so obscure and interesting and that's half the fun of it is you laughing at these references That's the things like I'm it's for yeah, there's just a lot of like some people are gonna get the joke I don't think everybody could possibly get every joke the pictures all have jokes like did you notice you in the pictures?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
The text messages.
They're on little things.
Did you watch to the end of the credits?
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
andrew schulz
Did you see that?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was great, too.
andrew schulz
So there's all this little shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you did a lot of cool shit to it.
andrew schulz
We try to have some fun, but all the little pictures are so little nuanced.
There are jokes that nobody will catch that we just put in in the pictures.
Bobby Lee is in a picture.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
When he comes to the horse.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
So it's like...
We do a whole picture pass, but these guys dedicate their fucking life to it, man.
joe rogan
It's so good.
It's such a funny show.
And it's so popular.
My friends that aren't in comedy, when I started posting them on my Instagram feed, they're like, who is this fucking guy?
God damn, these are so good.
Thank you for doing that, man.
Oh, dude, my pleasure.
andrew schulz
You're great at that.
You like to spread the love, man.
joe rogan
I am so into spreading the love, and I'm so into promoting people that hustle.
I love it.
It makes me excited.
I see what you're doing, and I'm just like, everybody that's complaining, shut the fuck up.
andrew schulz
Go for it, right?
joe rogan
Look what he did.
andrew schulz
Look what he did.
joe rogan
He just fucking put his nose to the grindstone and went to work.
And there's so many people out there woeing the lack of this and that, and they just can't get off the couch.
They can't get moving.
And I'm like, look, that's on you.
andrew schulz
That's on you.
joe rogan
If you want to make it, you want to make it.
Look, you went the complete unconventional path.
You put your fucking special on YouTube.
When they all said no, it blew the fuck up.
And then you put a crowd work special on YouTube.
That blew the fuck up.
And then COVID hits, stops you in your tracks.
Uh-uh.
You went...
Left turn.
Around the barrier with a whole nother level.
A whole nother level of shit.
And again, you are the very best at capitalizing on this weird time and creating comedy that's specifically perfectly designed for like Instagram and YouTube and these 15 minute chunks.
andrew schulz
Thank you, man.
joe rogan
It's fucking great, man.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I just wanted to, I don't know.
joe rogan
You killed it!
andrew schulz
Thank you, man.
I'm glad you liked it.
joe rogan
I love it.
andrew schulz
Yeah, we worked hard on it, man.
And all the credit to the guys as well.
Like, they gave up everything.
Like, we all have, like, wives and shit, you know, like, fiancées.
And it's like, none of them saw their wives and stuff for, like, fucking months, you know?
And it's just like, and I just, I'm just stoked.
I'm glad you liked it.
And, like...
Yeah, I don't know.
I just like trying different shit, man.
joe rogan
How long can you do that for?
It seems like...
andrew schulz
I couldn't keep that pace up.
Like, a lot of things...
We were only four guys, right?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
One of the guys, my boy Efe, is just a buddy of mine.
joe rogan
So do you know all these guys before you got involved in this?
andrew schulz
Mark, right?
Who's gonna be a superstar.
He's fucking brilliant.
He works so hard at this, and he's amazing.
He...
A year ago was started as my intern and he was helping us and he was opening up for me on the road.
He literally graduated college, didn't even go to his graduation so he could meet us in like Cleveland or something and do a gig.
But I saw he was like sharp and competent.
That's the number one thing I look for is competence.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Alex, who's fucking a genius, but the guy is so competent.
He's the guy who does all my production stuff, like he shoots all the videos, he shot the specials and everything like that.
When we started working together, he had no fucking clue how to edit.
The guy learned Premiere eight days before he edited the Netflix special.
I'm telling you, bro, and literally I would tell him as we're writing and going up, I'd be like, bro, do you want me to get you like a class or something like that?
And he'd be like, nah, it's like the same thing, you know what I mean?
And I noticed he was pulling a lot of late nights, and every time I'd go in the room, like, one of the screens would have the special.
The other screen would have a YouTube screen up.
And it would just be like, how to insert text.
He's just learning on YouTube how to put together the special.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
andrew schulz
But it's competence, bro.
These guys, they're so competent.
And I was like, okay, you guys can learn anything.
You know what I'm saying?
Some people look for intelligence in really specific ways.
And in my life, it's always like, if I have somebody who can conquer and solve problems, we can give them any problems.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
And they were just amazing at that.
And then there's Robbie Slovic is a comic in New York.
And I always thought he was funny.
And I went to his album taping at New York Comedy Club.
I remember this.
And I remember sitting there and I was like, wow, this guy is really sharp and has a great take on every topical thing.
I go, I'm thinking, I'm like, wow, this guy's really good.
I'm going to do something with this guy.
I'm going to bring him on one of these days.
And I was trying to do another thing with him and his wife.
And then this came up and I was like, let's see if Robbie can help out.
And then F.A.'s never done comedy in his fucking life.
The guy works in like, I don't want to blow up his job, but he's from London.
Do you know what I mean?
He's never done.
And he's just like a really smart guy and like thorough and intelligent lawyer.
He's a lawyer.
So I'm like, we need a lawyer.
We need someone who makes sure the arguments are super solid and unimpeachable.
And We just came together in the next fucking...
We did three months of non-stop fucking work.
And it was...
It was a lot, bro.
It was a lot.
It was painful.
By the end, it got painful.
Like, it was...
There was a lot of late nights, a lot of sleep in the studio.
Miles McCreary, here's another thing.
Like, we just...
This kid Miles was filling up pools in Florida.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And he was doing our images originally.
So I brought him on.
I was like, why don't you look over the image team?
Right?
Because we were with this production company called Jaxx.
A lot of really great people over at Jaxx as well.
And this guy...
The images didn't come in how I wanted them at first.
And like, I kind of had a little blow up.
And I said, Miles, you're in charge of images.
This guy's never worked in entertainment his entire life.
He just knows Photoshop.
And he starts running a team of editors.
And it was just this perfect experiment on like just investing in people who you think are fucking competent and have the same like vision as you and the same level of like...
Expectation of content.
Nothing makes me more comfortable than having a team of people that have as high expectations for their content as me.
unidentified
Do you know what I'm saying?
andrew schulz
If you have motherfuckers that they don't care to put out anything, I get anxiety around that.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
But these guys won't let me put out something that's not good.
joe rogan
That's perfect.
andrew schulz
So it's just like...
joe rogan
That's a great relationship.
andrew schulz
Bro, it has been fucking great, and I hope none of them listen to this and ask for more money.
But...
No, but like they fucking murdered it, man, and they fucking, they stepped up, man.
joe rogan
Well, that's beautiful that you give these guys this opportunity, too, and you find these competent guys that are willing to hustle.
andrew schulz
I don't care about your credits, bro.
I really do not care.
Like, I do not care about the followers, none of that shit.
Are you competent?
Do you have the same drive, and are you willing to spend the late nights with me?
Because I'm going to spend late nights, and I have very high expectations of people I work with.
joe rogan
And you can hang.
andrew schulz
You gotta be able to hang.
joe rogan
Yes, that's everything.
andrew schulz
You gotta be able to buzz balls.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
And you gotta be able to take it too.
It's not easy.
You know the guy Dove?
Did you see the guy?
That's my first friend in college.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew schulz
He's my first friend.
He was in entertainment for a while and he was producing stuff.
He was doing it in Italy and he was doing stuff here.
He was an agent for a little bit and I was like, bro, just stop kissing everybody's ass to get a project done.
Just come over here.
Let's fucking do this.
And he ends up executive producing it.
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew schulz
It's like a family affair, dude.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
andrew schulz
And the coolest thing about it, and now I'll fucking stop talking about it.
I even feel weird talking about it.
But like, we built up enough fucking equity outside of the industry to do the project we wanted to do with them.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You get to tell Netflix the things you want.
Chappelle gets to tell Netflix the things he wants.
Kevin gets to tell Netflix the things they want.
In terms of they could give you a note and you could be like, I would really prefer it this way.
I respect your opinion, but I prefer...
There's a few people in the world that get that.
And we built up enough confidence and trust in not only the market with the people, but also with them that they were just like, yeah, do what you want.
joe rogan
You go hard.
andrew schulz
It's wild.
joe rogan
You go hard.
andrew schulz
It is wild.
joe rogan
You go real hard.
I was watching.
I was like, I wonder if Netflix is going to tell them to pull back.
Nope.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
Nope.
There's no pulling back.
andrew schulz
Dude, there was one thing that we had to remove.
joe rogan
What was it?
andrew schulz
It was, and this is a legal thing.
joe rogan
Oh.
andrew schulz
And it was a joke we had, and it was a non sequitur.
It was a joke about, it was a, you know, I said Trump with no experiences, Trump, who had no experiences with viruses outside of the ones he got from Stormy.
It's a throwaway joke.
unidentified
Right.
andrew schulz
They go, you can't have that line.
And I go, why?
He goes, well, you're alleging that Stormy Daniels has STDs.
joe rogan
Can you just change it to whores?
andrew schulz
Well, here's the thing.
She's a whore.
So like, no, no, but for a living.
That's what she does.
joe rogan
She's an adult star.
A star.
andrew schulz
Sorry.
Whatever.
joe rogan
She's a performer.
Adult performer.
andrew schulz
I've seen her perform.
I went to the strip club.
I saw her.
Guys in MAGA hats, front row.
It was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen.
It was amazing.
It was in Texas, matter of fact.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
andrew schulz
She was wearing flapper heels from the 20s.
They're like the thick ones.
But it was really good.
joe rogan
Probably has bad ankles.
andrew schulz
Older lady.
You know what I mean?
Rough.
Point is, they said we had to take that line out.
And I go, why?
And they go, no, no.
You have to understand.
It's not about insulting.
For a living, she fucks people for money.
If you say she has STDs, that could affect her ability to make a living.
unidentified
Wow.
andrew schulz
And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I can cut that.
Like, to me, I was...
joe rogan
Did you change it?
andrew schulz
I just removed the line.
I didn't care about Stormy.
Right.
joe rogan
It was just convenient to fit the little jokes about viruses.
andrew schulz
It's literally like, we try to have a joke in every line.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
So I'm just like, okay, what's a little fun?
Ah, Stormy.
We have other Stormy jokes in there.
unidentified
Right.
andrew schulz
But when they were like, this is an illegal thing to do because there's no proof that she's had it.
And I was like...
unidentified
Wow.
andrew schulz
So I was like, yeah, that's fine.
I don't care.
That was the only note?
And you see what's in that fucking thing?
Bro, there's some pictures where I'm like, how did they not see this?
joe rogan
No language notes?
No nothing?
andrew schulz
What do you think is the wildest?
The Terry Schiavo thing is wild.
It's pretty wild.
joe rogan
I don't want to give any of it away.
I want people to watch it, but it's great.
It's very much in the line of the stuff you've already done on Instagram, which is what I worried about.
You worry that someone gets involved.
I don't worry about Netflix, because Netflix has never given me a fucking single note.
Not a single note.
All the wild shit I put out in my specials, they're like, okay.
Let's go.
They never had any problems with it.
andrew schulz
Because you're you.
The young comic coming up might not have that.
joe rogan
Well, they censored Joey Diaz.
Joey Diaz did a Terry Crews joke about Me Too.
He had a funny Terry Crews joke about Terry Crews doing those underwear ads.
And of course, he's going to try to grab his dick.
Like, what the fuck do you think?
These guys are at home watching that shit, bouncing your titties on.
It's a funny bit.
And they're like, no, you can't make fun of Me Too.
But it's because, you know, he was on the, that, whatever they call it, the, what did they call it?
The degenerates?
Is that what they call it?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
The little segment.
So it's a shorter set, and it wasn't a Joey Diaz comedy special where you're just going to see Joey Diaz.
It's just stand-up comedy.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They have more editorial control.
He was very upset though.
He didn't like it at all.
And the bit was a murderous bit.
He did the bit at the Comedy Store and I was like, oh my god.
It was the best take on Me Too ever.
Because nobody feels bad about a fucking super athlete like Terry Crews getting his dick grabbed by some guy that he could literally throw through a fucking wall.
So it's not like he's a victim physically.
So you can make fun of him in a way you can never make fun of a woman getting sexually assaulted.
andrew schulz
Also, you've been around white guys.
Like, that's what we do.
We tap each other's dicks.
joe rogan
I think the guy who did it was on drugs and probably was just out of his mind and was being silly or something.
I don't know.
But, you know, Terry Crews made a big deal out of it and Joey Diaz mocked him.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when Joey Diaz mocked him, Netflix was like, nope, not that one.
Really?
Maybe it wasn't Netflix.
Maybe it was the producer of the show.
Maybe it was a director of the show.
Maybe it was someone involved who didn't want to have their name on something.
Also, this was like, what, two years ago or something like that?
When the Me Too shit was at its height.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
When people were super nervous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they didn't have any problem with my Harvey Weinstein bit.
Where I said...
What was it?
I'm trying to remember exactly how it went.
But the bit was basically that if someone like that, if Harvey Weinstein did that shit to my daughter, I would want to fuck him up.
I go, but if Harvina Weinstein offered my son a legitimate contract, I'd look at him and go, dude, you're going to be Batman.
unidentified
It's great.
joe rogan
It was this whole bit about, uh, if I go, yeah.
I forget how it went.
I forget my bits after I abandoned them.
But it was basically saying that a guy who fucks a woman for money, like, nobody feels bad for you.
Oh, you had to eat her pussy for a Ferrari?
You gonna be okay?
Nobody feels bad for you, but a girl who hoes herself out for a movie with Weinstein.
And look, I'm sure a lot of those women were assaulted.
I'm sure a lot of those women are telling the truth.
Most of them.
But there was a few hoes in there that knew what they were doing.
andrew schulz
I'm sure.
joe rogan
Had to.
But they knew the game.
And forget about Harvey Weinstein.
Yeah, that game has been in Hollywood forever, where these disgusting producers fuck these girls and they make them stars.
Yeah, creeps.
andrew schulz
They're creeps.
And it's like, you know what?
Maybe everybody would feel better about it if they were just blatant.
Like, if they're creeps, but they're like, yo, I'm a creep, but I'm gonna get you an Oscar.
joe rogan
Nah.
I think he did do that.
I think Weinstein actually did do that.
According to Whitney, Whitney was telling me...
Whitney's got some wild information.
andrew schulz
Was he shooting his shot?
joe rogan
Not at him.
Not at her.
But she was telling me...
Is she upset about that?
No.
andrew schulz
Whitney's so funny that she could be like, well, what did you not see in me?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She was probably stopping.
andrew schulz
But hold on.
joe rogan
Hold on.
andrew schulz
Wait now.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Well, it seems like we'd like you to write on the show.
unidentified
She's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
No, she was basically saying that he made deals and he was known for sticking to his deals.
And that's one of the reasons why it was so successful.
It's like, he would tell these gals, look, I'll fuck you and I'll make you a star.
And he would actually make them a star.
Like, really did what he said he was going to do.
andrew schulz
If you're upfront about it and you're not abusing them and you're not threatening their career if they say no...
I don't see that much wrong with that.
I don't see anything wrong with that negotiation.
If you start threatening their careers, if they say no, that's where it goes wrong.
And that's fucked up.
You're removing their freedom.
But if they were like, nah, I'm good.
I'm going to try it somewhere else.
And he was like, alright, that's good.
Best of luck.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was a lot of lawsuits that made a lot of sense in that regard.
andrew schulz
He got clipped, right?
Or is he back home because of Corona?
joe rogan
No, he's in jail.
andrew schulz
Oh, they didn't let him out?
joe rogan
No, no.
I think he's had COVID twice, I think.
andrew schulz
You can get it again?
joe rogan
Some people can if you have a shit immune system.
andrew schulz
Nah, that's soft, bro.
joe rogan
A small number of people have been documented as having COVID twice.
I knew he had COVID in jail a long time ago, but I read something recently about him having COVID again.
I don't know if that's again or if that's at all.
jamie vernon
The wording in the article says lawyers on both sides agree to push his trip back for a second time due to coronavirus.
andrew schulz
They're just trying to get him out of there.
jamie vernon
It says he escapes extradition to L.A. Transportation of someone from New York to California.
So he's got another case in California.
So he's been convicted in New York.
He's going to go to LA. And that's been pushed back because of coronavirus.
joe rogan
How is this guy not killing himself?
jamie vernon
11 counts of rape.
Faces 140 years behind bars.
andrew schulz
How has nobody killed him?
How has nobody in jail taken him out?
Don't they usually do that?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think that child rape is the big one, right?
If you're a child rapist, because a lot of those guys that are in jail, their life of fucked up crime and craziness started out because of being molested.
andrew schulz
Oh, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Oh, there's quite a few.
Quite a few violent offenders who were molested while they were children, and they never recovered from it.
They're devastated by it.
andrew schulz
I'm okay, though, if they take out child rapists.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I feel nothing with that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that.
That's vigilante justice.
andrew schulz
Low key.
joe rogan
And it's always been that way.
Like, that's the one thing that people have never had a problem with, right?
When people find out about someone getting killed in jail that was a child rapist.
andrew schulz
And you're like, alright, chalk it up to the game.
joe rogan
The dark thing is that child rapists wind up raping children.
Rather, people who've been raped as children wind up being child rapists.
That's the darkest part about it, is that these child rapists come from abuse themselves.
They've been abused.
It's a real common thing that people abused as children wind up abusing others.
andrew schulz
So you can abuse that into somebody?
That's terrifying.
joe rogan
I don't know what it is, but if you really wanted to think about it, it's almost like a fucking vampire bite.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like something horrific like that.
Like you give them a sickness.
You abuse a child when they're young and then you make them do the same.
unidentified
It's just...
andrew schulz
What do we do with those people?
What is the...
joe rogan
I don't know.
You can't fix it.
This is our understanding of human psychology and how the mind works and how to fix real pathological issues like that.
It's so limited.
And also, if someone rapes a kid, what is...
If you fix them and then just let them go, there's no retribution?
andrew schulz
Yeah, because you've hurt that person.
You need to pay for what you've done.
joe rogan
You've ruined them, oftentimes, forever.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you need to...
jamie vernon
Harvey, he got visited last week by his 27-year-old actress girlfriend in prison in New York.
unidentified
Wow.
While he's asking to be taken out.
Wow, wow girl.
andrew schulz
Wow girl right there.
joe rogan
Let me see what this girl looks like.
unidentified
He's 68. I need to see this girl.
joe rogan
Alexandra Vino.
He's probably, listen baby, I'm telling you.
Oh my god, she's hot as fuck.
That's insane.
Is that real?
andrew schulz
Total peace.
unidentified
What?
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
What?
andrew schulz
Total peace, bro.
Go to the bikini one, dude.
joe rogan
Come on.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's a total peace right there.
She wants it.
joe rogan
The world is crazy.
andrew schulz
That girl wants fame in a way that you've never experienced.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's amazing that she thinks that Harvey's going to give it to her.
Like, does she know something we don't?
Is he telling her something?
andrew schulz
Yeah, he's telling her I still got connects.
Like, I'm still, you know, part of the...
joe rogan
Wow, is he getting out?
andrew schulz
Or she's just gotta go once a month and he's paying all the bills.
That's the other thing.
That could be a sugar daddy situation.
joe rogan
It could easily be that.
andrew schulz
I'll come once a month, kiss you in the mouth or whatever.
We probably can't even touch because you're locked in jail.
You don't think I have conjugal visits in jail.
joe rogan
68. She stayed for several hours chatting.
They put a blanket over both of their laps.
andrew schulz
No, they did it!
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They were in the back rooms, kept specially for prisoners, in voluntary protective custody.
He got up several times to use the bathroom, said the source.
He could still only get about with a walker, just like when he was in court.
But the difference between then and now is he has a lot more color in his cheeks.
He didn't look so deathly ill.
unidentified
Wow.
andrew schulz
Poor girl, man.
joe rogan
That's great.
Poor girl, right?
Sad shit.
That's a sad way to live your life.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, Andrew Schultz, let's wrap this bitch up and bring it home.
Your show is available right now on Netflix.
Schultz Saves America?
andrew schulz
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
There it is.
Netflix special.
andrew schulz
They've been clowning me for the Photoshop that they did on me.
joe rogan
Yeah, they smoothed you out, bro.
They gave you some filters.
andrew schulz
You know what's fucked up?
joe rogan
Why do they do that?
andrew schulz
I don't know, but I looked at it and I was like, yeah, that's kind of what I look like.
That's how skewed my version of myself is.
joe rogan
It's not too bad, but it looks like CGI. You look like you belong in Ready Player One.
Right?
andrew schulz
That movie is unbelievable.
joe rogan
It's a great movie.
andrew schulz
That's one of my favorite movies.
I love that movie.
Yeah, they fixed my nose.
They took them dead from my nose.
joe rogan
They did that with me, too.
andrew schulz
Can we go to Joe's?
Can we do a side-by-side?
joe rogan
They did it to Triggered.
From 2016, from four years ago.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Let's see this.
I watched it.
I was like, why am I so smooth?
That picture, the one with the lights up there.
jamie vernon
I wanted to get it on their site.
The best version of it.
joe rogan
They smoothed the shit out of me, bro.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you're a sweet potato, bro.
joe rogan
They smoothed me.
andrew schulz
Look at that.
joe rogan
All my under-eyeball bags are gone.
Look what they did to my face.
andrew schulz
It doesn't even look like me.
joe rogan
If I showed up, but that's just lighting.
But if I showed up with that face, people would be like, what the fuck happened to you, man?
Go back up.
The other one was a cartoon.
Just make that bigger.
Where's my eyes?
Why does my face go straight from my eyes down to my mouth?
You look like a Bond villain.
They Botoxed me.
They Botoxed me up.
Like, all these lines, I have no lines.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you have not a single wrinkle, except the one Fear Factor one, they kept that in.
joe rogan
They kinda did, but they even toned that down.
andrew schulz
That head is cleanly shaved, though.
That's clean shave right there.
joe rogan
But even my forehead lines are disappeared.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nonsense.
Why do they do that?
andrew schulz
I think they want to make us cute.
unidentified
Aww.
andrew schulz
I know.
unidentified
Aww.
andrew schulz
But I was kinda feeling myself in that picture for a little bit.
You look good, bro.
joe rogan
You don't need that bullshit.
The lines don't do you wrong.
Andrew Schultz, you're a bad motherfucker.
I love you.
I'm so happy you're out there.
Swinging haymakers.
andrew schulz
Thank you, man.
joe rogan
Representing real comedy.
unidentified
Let's go.
joe rogan
And again, Schultz Saves America.
It's on now on Netflix.
Go get it, kids.
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