Tim Kennedy and Joe Rogan reject cancel culture’s weaponization of symbols—like his Hawaiian shirt or Gabbard’s exclusion—while debating election integrity, citing Illinois’ 104% turnout and California’s flawed voter systems. They condemn media bias, from Twitter’s algorithmic suppression to hydroxychloroquine censorship, and warn of foreign threats like China exploiting divisions. Rogan’s skepticism of mail-in ballots aligns with Kennedy’s concerns over verification, both stressing stability over radicalization. Portland’s protests, echoing The Purge’s tactics, expose governance failures, with lawsuits revealing complicity in unrest. Ultimately, they argue that moral clarity and law enforcement—not ideological extremes—are the foundation of a safe, functional society. [Automatically generated summary]
In the past couple weeks following the killing of George Floyd, curiously dressed counter-protesters have attended scattered demonstrations across the U.S. armed and disconcertingly garbed in Magnum P.I. style floral Hawaiian shirts.
I was like, you tell me the things that I'm not supposed to do, and I'm going to do those things because I'm not going to let you take those things from me.
When I was young, they always taught us, like, middle finger means something in America, but in, like, some other country it doesn't, but, like, thumbs up in some country is real bad.
Most of those started off with 4chan just fucking around.
4chan was just pretending.
In Iran, Greece, Russia, Sardinia, and parts of West Africa, the thumbs up is as rude as the middle finger is in the UK. So no posing in front of the Parthenon, making the thumbs up gesture like a nerdy tourist.
I saved a bunch of pictures of black folks doing the OK symbol.
I was sending it to my friends.
People were saying that there's something wrong with the OK. I'm like, you can't take away something that's been around forever that just means OK. And the thing about there were some people that were doing it upside down.
But do you remember when those cops, they all got in trouble because they were taking a picture, and everyone's saying these cops are doing the white power thing.
Oh, no, a bunch of white supremacists are graduating from West Point.
And so there's a huge military investigation.
I mean, Pentagon sending people out to research this.
And they're like, oh, shoot.
It's them playing an asshole game.
This is actually not better because now our West Point, the most prestigious military academy, our graduates are playing their senior year at a Trump graduation, the asshole game.
Well, the problem is with someone being able to write an article like that and say this is a white power symbol, and then all of a sudden these people get labeled as white supremacists, and then there's no repercussion, because once the article's out there, even if you have a retraction, the original article's still out.
Yeah, I really think it's just, you say more people, but I really just think it's a small percentage of people that are always outraged on both sides all the time.
Like if you can't, one of the things about the military is there's a lot of dark humor and people kind of look at us as these scarred, um, damaged people because of that humor.
But the truth is, like, we're able to talk about those things through this humor.
And whether it's like a release for post-traumatic stress or just how we're able to get to the next day, how we're able to go and do some of the things that we do, it's because we're allowed to joke and laugh and burn that stuff off these sensitive times.
And J.P. Sears, long-haired kind of hippie YouTuber, he has been recently kind of attacking how comedians can't make jokes right now.
and how everything has been charged and there's not a way, like you can't make racist, sexist jokes or political jokes whatsoever without being canceled.
And so I came up with this thing where they're demons and they whisper in his ear in the middle of the night and they talk him into being a woman.
But it took forever to figure out a way.
But it worked.
It worked and people didn't even get mad at me for it.
I just had to figure out a way to do it where, first of all, I belittle myself and then I explain it in a way where it's not dehumanizing trans people.
The fact that you have to think about a joke and its political or cancel culture ramifications to make sure it's politically correct enough for it to be bulletproof, whether you're a defense attorney, that sucks to me.
The counter to that, though, is that when you do get away with it, it makes it even more powerful.
A joke.
Yeah, I'm telling you, man.
The jokes that I've said on stage that are against political correctness, that are good, like the way I've figured out a way to weave some of them, when they hit, man, they hit like a bomb.
Like, the whole room was like, blah!
I go, you know I'm right.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, I'm not a bad person.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I have this whole chunk that I do on banning words.
And the whole chunk, it's like it took forever to figure out how to manipulate it and get it to this place where you could sneak it in on people.
And sneak it in on people that would ordinarily, you say those words in polite company and people would, their assholes would tense up.
I think it's extra important right now where people have been isolated for this, whatever, six, five months now from COVID where they're creating echo chambers when they're, when they curate their own information access.
We're like, I'm not going to listen to this guy or I want this guy to be platformed or any of the social medias obviously are limiting what kind of voices are being heard.
While you're sitting there at home for the past four months and you're just in this echo chamber of your own ideas and people that agree with you, it magnifies and radicalizes what you believe.
And there's no logical sound, soundboard.
There's no bounce off.
There's no pressure check.
There's no refiners fire to those ideas because it's an echo chamber.
And like you're reading the exact same things on Twitter.
You're seeing the same things on Facebook.
You're looking at the same things on Instagram.
Then you turn on the TV and of course they're saying all the same things that you already agree with and then you're saying These ideas continue and gain momentum and they're not real because they've never been tested against anything that disagrees with them or that contradicts them.
And I think all ideas have to go through that process for them to be real.
Is that refiner's fire of, is this really going to work?
It's everything wrong with these ideas that just get propagated online that no one really thinks through, but then they become a thing that if you're cool, you say it.
Yeah, one of the best things about special operations is that there's so much training and process, the refiner's fire, the chaff in the wind.
Like you throw that stuff up and the crap blows away and the good stuff comes back down.
Then you take that stuff and you go and carry it into a fire and then you heat it and then you pull it out and you pound it.
Then you heat it again, you pound it, then you heat it, you pound it.
And what you're left with at the end is this pretty cool thing.
If any of that is with law enforcement, all of those things can only occur through training.
And if you want to test somebody, if you want to check, if you want to find racism, like having them show up to work for eight hours and letting them hop in a car and run out, you're never going to know what's inside of there.
The only time that you get access, that you get peaks of that, is at these stressful, emotionally drained moments.
And the only time that you can create those is through training.
I've been arguing that we should have that for all of our leaders.
We were talking about the mayor of California or the mayor of Los Angeles and the governor of California and the people that are deciding you can't trick-or-treat this year.
This is the new thing.
The one fucking holiday where you have to wear a mask.
You're supposed to wear a mask.
And for whatever reason, they've decided they're going to save people by stopping little kids, the ones who have the least problem with this disease, from trick-or-treating.
It's fucking asinine.
It's so dumb.
And I think part of it is because the people that are in that position, the people that are in the position of control, they don't have to be tested.
They don't have to show their character.
They just have to win a popularity contest that no one wants to enter.
No one wants to be the fucking mayor of LA. Who's entering?
Try to explain what the checks and balances are in this state that have kept it from being fucked up and given it the freedom that it enjoys right now.
And one of the reasons why people are coming here in the first place.
I actually have a present for you from the Texas Special Operations community.
They're like, wait a second.
So they...
When I say they come here in droves, we have hundreds of Green Berets in the state of Texas from their Border Patrol workers that are still serving as Green Berets.
They're police officers, firefighters, work for FBI, but they live in Texas so they can be Texans that are Green Berets that then have their other shenanigan awesome jobs.
You know, we're talking about the First Amendment.
Congress shall make no law respecting any establishment or religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof, abridging the freedom of speech, the press, the right of people to peacefully assemble, petition the government for redress of grievances.
So this has all of them in here.
So this gun, I took, it has been shot, so I zeroed it for you.
So you as a rancher, you're like, seeing a heavy-handed, hairy ogre like me, they're like, wait, you'll come and kill pigs on my property, and I don't have to do anything?
But like, that's, while I believe you have the right to do that, it's also one of those things that's like, it's also dumb to do it.
From a tactical perspective, why would you be sitting here with the thing that you want to protect you, exposed to the whole entire world, and telegraphing people?
If I walk into a room, that's the first guy I'm like, eh.
One, you're probably useless.
Two is, I'm concerned about you, not as an asset, but rather as a threat.
If you went out to any of the guys out here, or any of my friends, and you're like, do you open carry?
Well, that's that thing that I was getting into about the protests when people were showing up at these Black Lives Matter protests with AKs around their neck.
Yeah, I mean, we had a poor kid killed here in Austin.
He had an AK and a poor Uber driver got in the middle of a protest and he's like, holy crap, his, you know, when he dropped, he had a drop off and he went to go do another pickup and Uber like automatically routes the way to go.
So he's following his little Uber route and he turns and he's like, oh man, I'm in the middle of a protest.
He's a soldier from Fort Hood right here.
And he's concealed carrying in his Uber vehicle.
And he gets stuck in the protest, and the protesters just swarm his car.
He's open caring at a protest, you know, and he was saying kind of some inflammatory things beforehand, but like, I think his point and his purpose was really good and pure and like trying to do the right thing.
Right.
But then he runs up to the side of a car and points a gun at an Uber driver that is scared and confused, and he gets shot.
And the video was edited where it looked like the guy was making a right-hand turn, and he sped up because he was trying to get around a person, and they cut right there because it looks like the guy's speeding up to go into the crowd.
But super, when you watch the whole video, it's really obvious what that poor kid was trying to do, the driver.
I saw a fascinating...
This PhD on communication broke down from the initial release of the information of the story, how it immediately started being...
Distorted.
Yeah, for two different sides.
Like, I'm going to leave out this detail.
I'm going to include this detail.
And by the time you got, you know, the game Telephone, where you're like, hey, here's this catchphrase.
And by the time it gets all the way around the room, it doesn't sound like any semblance of what it did when it started.
When you got to the final version, I'm super enraged at one version, and I'm super enraged at another version.
But neither of them are true.
And that's what every single issue is happening, from defunding the police, to Black Lives Matter, to Antifa.
It's like, can we just be reasonable and talk about what's really happening?
So I was just coming back from Africa on an SFA mission, a security forces assistance, like a We, the military, go to places that have insurgents and we try to legitimize the process of government.
So in counterinsurgency, there's like all of these different missions from joint combined exercises for training to foreign internal defense to SFA, security forces, assistance.
And I'm over there doing a counterinsurgency mission and I'm coming back and I'm seeing the same kind of horrible, dangerous recipe that In Portland, you know, the same types of organization structure and it's an insurgency is a charged idea that,
you know, insurgency as the DOD defines it is an organized group trying to delegitimize or overthrow a constitutional government.
Like that's how the DOD defines it.
And I think if you went to almost anyone in Portland, they're like, what are you trying to do right now?
Because you have to combat the grievances and the ideas.
You have to...
And as dangerous as it is, those ideas are like a cancer.
Because when the truth and information is being...
Just like we talked about with the shooting here in Austin, where you have two different versions and some people are in the echo chamber of only hearing one side of it.
It just keeps radicalizing more and more and catching more momentum.
And then the reason that they're there is so convoluted with, you know, are you there for Black Lives Matter?
Are you there to fight systemic racism?
Are you here to, like, what are you protesting about?
When you're allowed to throw fire into the lobby of the apartment building where the mayor lives and no one stops you, and you're out in front and people are playing music and dancing and everyone's going...
Black lives matter!
There's excitement to that, right?
Something's happening.
And then when you're talking about people that are out of work, the economy's fucked, no one knows what to do, everyone's scared, COVID's killing a certain percentage of people, you can't Do anything about it.
There's no vaccines.
There's all this tension in the air.
And then you have this movement.
And then this is the most exciting thing that's happening.
And then for people that don't have jobs and can't go anywhere, what the fuck do you want them to do?
They're going to get sucked up into that, especially if it aligns with their political ideologies, if they're a left-leaning person.
And they're like, look, we have a real chance for a real revolution here.
But what they don't understand, I was talking about Seattle.
You're doing the same thing that you would hate for people to do.
You're taking over businesses with force.
You're occupying land that you don't deserve.
You're stealing buildings.
You're literally occupying buildings that other people built.
And then once you get there, you're establishing boundaries.
You're putting up barriers.
You have a police force that will attack and brutally beat people up for just filming what they perceive as injustices.
Or what they're going to put on the internet.
And then people get shot and you're calling the fucking cops.
You call the police and ambulances when people get shot there.
Do you know how goddamn crazy this is?
It's so poorly thought out across the board.
And if you do that, if you take over an area, what's to stop people from doing that to you?
You've already set a precedent.
You've already said we could do this with force.
We're going to move in with no law behind us, with no court ruling, with no reasonable discourse.
We're going to move in with force.
And we're going to take over an air with numbers and threats.
And then what's going to stop someone from doing that to you?
So from the mission of counterinsurgency, like how do you fight those ideas, is stability and security, right?
If we want to see positive change and kind of destitute...
Yes.
you want to talk about systemic racism, you start looking at like Detroit and Baltimore and Chicago.
How do you fix that?
It's not fewer police officers, it's more police officers.
The way that you fix it is providing stability and security in an area so that then businesses can flourish, capitalism arrives, more job opportunities, more wealth, more education, Immediately, in 10 years, you'll see the transformation of a block when a good business comes in and good things start happening.
That business can't go there if it's dangerous, if it's rioting and it's looting.
So if you look at every one of the cities that had serious riots from Rodney King, how bad those areas still are, it takes like 50, 60 years, if they ever bounce back, to come back from that.
So if you're like, yo, go Black Lives Matter, but then you're going and rioting, you are absolutely condemning yourself to To more poverty.
And then you go and defund the police and you remove the one thing that's going to provide stability and security out in that area that will bring in commerce, that will bring in business and jobs.
If I wanted to ruin something, you know, it doesn't take a lot of effort for me to destroy it.
For me to build and protect something, that takes a lot of manpower and hours.
Insurgencies are also way more successful than a, you know, conventional type war.
Even if it's just war of ideas, not that we're in a civil war.
Thank God we don't have like geographic lines that these radical groups could align themselves with because then we'd be in a different problem.
It takes not just manpower, funding.
If you're going to flood, say, Baltimore with police officers, that's a lot of money.
And it would take a long time for a business to feel like it's safe and secure for them to go in there and start affecting positive change, opening more stores, more jobs, more jobs, more wealth, more wealth, more education, more education, better schools.
And then, boom, we have a flourishing community where people can prosper.
But it takes, you know, one idiot with a Molotov cocktail to bring that all crumbling down again.
So I was like the big guy at the gym and grappling, right?
I wrestled and so I could go in and kind of smash a lot of the people.
And then this kind of awkward, weird white kid comes in and just like mops the floor with my soul.
And I was like, who are you?
Where did you come from?
And what did you do?
Like, what is this?
He's like, well, it's like catch wrestling, you know, which is kind of like jujitsu and wrestling kind of put together, you know, but then we fight, and I think I was 16, 15, 16 at this time.
He's like, and we, in San Luis Obispo, there's these other guys that do it, this Gan McGee and Scott Adams and Chuck Liddell and Antonio Banuelas, Cruz Gomez, and I was like...
Cool, I want to go there.
So I went there and got my brains bashed in forever.
I've never had any addiction to negative stuff, but I think if you looked at my life from how I train, how I shoot, how I work, how I run my companies, you're like, this guy's a psychopath with the disciplined regiment of literal pain and suffering that I intentionally put my body through.
Yeah.
And that's to stay productive, and so it's all constructive.
I always joke that if I didn't do martial arts and fight and go to the military where all of those things were encouraged, like, yeah, we want you to fight.
A lot of people that are in prison that I, to this day, feel like we could have got them when they were young and said, hey, listen, listen, this is the path you're on.
Trying to talk, convince somebody to buy into this way of life.
And I think hard work...
All the things that you want on the far side of hard work and getting somebody to believe that where they have to make all these kind of small decisions where am I waking up early?
Am I not going to be drinking?
Am I not going to be doing drugs?
Am I going to be training?
Am I going to all of these tiny little decisions start adding up and, um, like the Titanic slowly turning the boat, you know, but had they started turning the boat earlier, they wouldn't have struck an iceberg and they all wouldn't have died.
Right.
Um, but so you have to start making all these incremental adjustments and like, imagine what the Titanic would have been had it not struck the iceberg, like a connection between two worlds, you know, the poverty being able to move to a new world and the rich elite being co-mingling.
And like, who knows what the world would have been like had that boat not sunk.
And it would have only taken these small early adjustments to see the whole entire change of its course.
But the belief, right?
You're at the helm and you're telling me to start moving the boat.
And I'm like, I don't want to.
I don't need to.
All the excuses are there.
But it is so rewarding to be on the far side of all of that.
And like when people come to our, our courses, um, the, the biggest thing that we're trying to impart that, like, I'm not going to in, in two and a half days, I'm not going to turn somebody into a great fighter.
I'm not going to turn somebody into a great shooter in two and a half days.
But what they're going to learn is they're going to learn their assets and their liabilities.
And they're going to learn about themselves about what do they need to do that we're going to put them on a course, a direction, a path.
All the things they need to do to positively change their life.
And it becomes this, I'll use addictive, like this all-consuming passion to want to know that your family's safe, to not live in fear, to know that you're healthy.
Like, I have less body fat.
I'm feeling kind of like a badass.
I want to flirt with my wife a little bit more.
Now I'm having more sex.
Now my energy's going up.
Now I'm sleeping better.
And the next day's even better.
So I can train a little bit more.
I can work a little bit more.
I can shoot a little bit more.
And then like the next day, I'm even better.
And like just 1% incremental changes now two months removed.
You're like, who is this person?
You just lost 20 pounds of fat.
Like you've got calluses on your hands.
You don't have that fat baby chub on your face anymore.
And more importantly, I see life in your eyes where you showed up two months ago and there's like this ghost skeleton of a human.
Yeah, it's so hard for people that don't do it to understand that if you do push your body, it gets stronger and you grow and then you literally feel better.
I tried to explain it to a friend of mine.
I said, imagine if you have a race car and the race car is 400 horsepower and a certain width tire and a certain kind of suspension, but literally you can make it have more horsepower and handle better and all you have to do is work.
You just have to push it, and the tires will widen, and the suspension will toughen, and it'll be more pliable around corners.
The engine will get stronger.
The exhaust will sound better.
It'll be more rewarding to drive.
You can do this.
You can do it with your body.
Like, your body literally is like a race car.
Yes, and your mind.
Your mind goes along with it, which is another thing that bums me out where really smart people don't want to work out because they think it's like...
They think it's for meatheads, or they think it's a stupid egotistical pursuit.
Look, if you're an awesome pianist, right, and you're really good at playing the piano, you have to understand that that's not just your fingers, right?
That's your mind.
Your mind is also making you play the piano.
Well, guess what?
If you were in better cardiovascular shape, you probably could do that even better because then the whole system would work better.
Because this idea, this constitutional republic that we're in, it was possible because the individuals were strong, self-sufficient, and they believed in individual responsibility, right?
And not this fat, flagellant, gelatin human sitting on the couch playing video games and None of these ideas are possible if we continue down this soft trajectory of wanting instant gratification and believing that we're entitled to anything.
We have to believe that you've got to be a badass for this to work.
Not only do you look at it and remember, every time I'm cooking, whether, like, I had lasagna the other night.
I took some elk made Italian sausage, a little bit of pork fat, a bunch of Italian oregano and thyme that were mixed into the meat.
Uh, so I made a lasagna with ground backstrap and Italian sausage two nights ago, but the, like, as I'm cooking and I'm remembering walking up this mountain and seeing it two ridges away and be like, okay, where's the wind coming from?
How am I, am I going to button hook around this thing so that I can stay upwind of it and, uh, catch it in this next ravine, you know, and like Every single moment, the smells, and it's all coming back to you.
And then I sit down at the table, I've got my family with me, and we're going to eat this together.
It's hard for people to understand that have never done it before, but it is eating something that you have hunted and killed yourself is a different thing.
I appreciate old school, like when I watch the videos of Franklin's, Franklin's barbecue in Austin, that dude, he uses old school, you know, offset smokers with wood and throws the wood in with the logs, and obviously the result is fucking insanely delicious.
I appreciate it, but I don't have time for that, bro.
I put on either end a little cardboard vertical separator from the meat, and then I pack dry ice in there, and I just leave like an inch along the top if I'm shipping stuff.
He's like, hey, what would you do if you're at a restaurant and you're essentially ambushed by people screaming at you, telling you to raise your fist.
And like, you know...
One, I'll not be there because before I go places, I'm making sure that it's safer to go there.
You know, I'm not going to be sitting at a restaurant where a protest is going to be walking through.
And I know they're targeting ones specifically to try to catch people and get the I gotcha moment.
Two is situational awareness.
I'm sitting here and I see some people congregating across the street.
I'm going to wait and see what happens.
Now there's a lot of people.
I see cameras.
I see megaphones.
I'm going to still sit here and wait and see what happens.
I see five, six people wearing black hoodies, masks, little red fists painted on their shoulders.
So, there's a photograph called The Falling Man that it is, you can just Google Falling Man and you see this guy, and this, anytime I need to know the reason why I'm going all over these places doing, that's it.
He's sitting, standing, kneeling, laying on the floor of a shattered window and he's looking back inside and he's making a decision whether he's going to burn alive or he's going to jump to his death.
Him and hundreds of others.
They're sitting there, Americans, looking inside of a building, being like, okay, do I burn alive or do I jump to my death?
And that video and that picture is so unnerving because he consciously is making the choice to die the whole entire way down.
You can see he's staying in like, I'm going to face plant into the asphalt and all the way into the ground.
He's making that choice because he didn't want to burn alive.
So every time I'm sucking or suffering or frustrated, if I have to go do another mission, of course I want to do all these sexy things all over the planet, but sometimes I don't get to pick.
Usually, that's the way the military works, don't get to pick.
And I think about that guy, and I think about the 3,000 Americans that were standing there, and be faced with that choice of, am I going to burn alive, or am I going to jump to my death?
Because insurgents...
Wanting to, you know, radical fundamentals, wanting to destroy the idea that we stood for, capitalism, American freedom.
You know, with $500,000 and box cutters, these untrained assholes were able to bring down the largest superpower on the planet.
Like, that's what asymmetrical warfare is.
Like, asymmetrical is something that's not aligned with everything else.
And warfare in these...
Under asymmetrical warfare is kind of the haves-not fighting the haves and doing it in ways that nobody's ever done it before.
It was genius and horrible that this small group of untrained guys with box cutters did...
How many trillions of dollars have we spent in this war?
$17 billion in damage just in that one day.
3,000 American lives.
More lives since Pearl Harbor.
We went to war with the Japanese and dropped two atomic bombs for that.
We're so short with what we remember.
This current society, this generation, this fast influx of information.
But she's literally looking down, trying to get a breath, a fresh breath of air before she either suffocates or burns alive.
And then she jumps.
I never again.
We say never forget.
Never again.
How do we stop that?
And that is the constant, unrelenting fight against these fanatic ideas.
And it's not just...
There are countless types of revolutionaries and insurgents.
Ones that do it for religious reasons.
Ones to push out foreign powers.
Ones because of the...
Hutu and Tutsi, like that's just ethnic.
But they're all the same kind of formula of, we're not happy about something, so we're going to do something horrific to try and change asymmetrical warfare, to try to change the shape of something.
And that fight against these extreme outliers has to be one that we're committed to all the time.
Otherwise that will happen again.
It might be a train.
It might be a bus.
It might be a dirty bomb.
Thank God.
Boston, probably the next worst thing that's happened since then, which was a couple of idiots with pressure cookers because we have been so aggressive, not just here, but also abroad, ensuring that this doesn't happen.
It's weird.
Right now, you know, I think the last time I was here, I was telling you how bad it is in special operations and special forces, specifically in recruiting.
Like, we are hurting for people and the right people.
And all the people that have been coming in, they came in to fight this war.
But now we have kids in basic training that weren't alive when 9-11 happened.
I volunteered on 9-11 because of this.
But now we have...
I don't even know how many...
I'm calling them kids.
They're heroes.
They're selflessly serving their country.
But we're leaving Iraq.
We're leaving Afghanistan.
I had a deployment next year that looks like it's going to get kanked because Trump is pulling back our forces from these places for us to do other things.
And those other things are...
It's counterinsurgency.
It's foreign internal defense.
It's security forces assistance.
It's joint combined exercises for training.
And while I want to go put on my body armor and have a beard and go look sexy and go do all these things, those are the important jobs that we have to do in the coming years to make sure this doesn't happen again.
If we're in Afghanistan in 1999 with a president trying to help the Afghani government have a constitutional republic or a government in a way, would have this happened?
Maybe not.
I don't know, but probably not.
It's the same reason why we're all over Africa.
It's the same reason why we still have presence in NATO. It's the same reason that we're present in the Philippines.
It's trying to fight these radical ideas so that security and stability provides an area for people to live freely.
However they want to.
We're not telling anybody how to live, right?
Philippines, Africa, Niger, Nigeria, Mortania, Burkina Faso, you guys do your things.
Whatever that thing is, we're here to help you do it.
But it's going to be done safely to provide stability and security.
I never want to see that again.
Do you want to see an American?
I'm not going to see my kids.
But I want to burn alive, so I'm going to jump.
Fuck you and your extremist ideas, I'm going to find you.
And we're going to fight you until the day we die.
When you hear people talk about defunding the military, when you hear people talk about pulling troops out of other countries in a non-interventionalist foreign policy, but you know what you know, and you know why this stuff has to be done, how do you react to that?
You know, I'll go to a country in West Africa and I'll go back two years later and I will see the school that I helped build or was providing training for the people that are going to be protecting it.
Um, and that school is still functioning and they've had two years of people graduating from that school.
And now I go to what was like this podunk village and people are sitting there reading a book.
I'm like, you can read like, yeah, I learned how to read last year.
This is so cool.
You know, like, you have fresh water?
How did you have fresh water?
Like, ah, well, we learned how to read and then we started reading these books and like, we actually do natural filtration through the soil and we're also doing this tiered irrigation.
Like, check out our crops.
Holy crap, you have crops here.
You didn't have crops here two years ago.
In two years, I'm seeing this transformation of people.
So every single radical group from ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, FARC, to Antifa.
They go and target the poor and the uneducated.
That's who they recruit from.
They take these ideas, they plant seeds, and they plant seeds through, like, you're super poor, your daughter's going to get married, I'm going to come in as the bad guy, as the ISIS member, and I'm going to pay for your daughter's wedding.
And the endowment.
I'm going to do it all.
And now you're indebted to me.
And your wife and her new husband are kind of appreciative to me.
But now I have a hook in you.
And it doesn't take a lot of money to pay for a wedding in Somalia.
So there's the population, there's the poverty, and there's the opportunity for them to plant these seeds of fanatic ridiculousness.
And that's what they do.
So when I see somebody that's like, hey, we need to pull everybody back.
Yeah, and...
In wars, Iraq and Afghanistan, we have created stability there.
And I don't know...
Well, we can never govern Afghanistan.
Like, they can't be.
That's just the way that the people are.
And it's kind of cool, and it's kind of also frightening.
I mean, you go back to Genghis Khan, you know, and, like, they've been insurgents from Khan to the British, to the Russians, to then the British again, to the French, to then the Russians again, then to us.
Like, they've just been doing this thing for as long as they've been in existence.
We can still be there with the government, like hand in hand, advise and assist and accompany, like how to do things, but we don't physically need to be there fighting wars all the time.
And that's kind of what we're doing, right?
We're phasing back our physical direct action presence.
But it's somebody saying that we need to pull everybody in.
We only need to protect our own borders and let's just be present here.
It's super naive and it's super ignorant because this is the result of us not being outside of our own borders.
So security forces assistance or joint combined exercise for training or for internal defense, I am not walking around being like, hey, you insurgent, you get back in that building.
I'm by, with, and through working with the local government, by their side, with them, with their mission and their intent, through their own purpose and ideas.
But how do you get that message to people that do think that it's policing the world, that do think that we should mind our own business and take that Ron Paul approach and pull the troops back and take care of our own and not worry about other countries?
I think the easy answer, and I never like easy answers, is that 9-11 hasn't happened again, even though we know that they have tried 20,000, 30,000 times.
They've tried to do this again in every single way.
And whether it's a terrorist training camp, where we got him, whether it's the new ISIS leader, whether it's the new Al-Qaeda leader, whether it's the next Iranian, you know, secret service that's funding groups and terrorist organizations all over the planet.
We got him, you know, like, we have been constant and vigilant in finding them and stopping them.
And we have to.
Otherwise, like, how has this not happened again?
Are there fewer extremists?
No.
We have stopped them through our actions.
If we did not do anything, this would happen again.
Like us being able to buy cool drones or new guns or different optics.
Like the funding is there or the funding is not there.
And if, like, while the big Department of Defense military machine may not be the most efficient thing, when it goes down to the individual, like, it comes down to me being like, I can have this gun or I can't.
I can have this optic or I can't.
I have to use this old rifle that's been shot by 20 soldiers before me or I get a new one.
And it's black and white.
It's like dollars and cents.
Like I have $9 under this guy or I have $3 under this guy.
So when you left fighting and went back into the military, was one of the reasons you did that because Trump was in office and then there was more funding?
But it's a bad feeling to walk into a fight not in a position to fight.
And when Trump was elected, we were 100% still at war.
ISIS was thriving.
All the places I went and fought in Afghanistan were now controlled by ISIS. Do you know how bad that sucks to look at all the places where I remember friends getting hurt or, you know, like Jaco, the places that he went, those were occupied by ISIS, physically occupied, and he lost countless friends.
Fallujah, Ramadi, Sadr City, all of those places, all of the Syrian border, controlled by ISIS, land that we controlled and fought and then lost.
And then thinking about like, I have to go back in here and do this again, but I have the third, a third amount of the resources to do it.
That sucks.
Or knowing that, okay, now I'm gonna have a guy that is gonna back me with a pocketbook.
To go and win.
That was the choice for me.
I just want to win.
I don't want 9-11 to happen again.
And that's hard to stop when you're creating vacuums for evil to fill.
So the president comes out with this national strategic plan, and that goes to a bunch of different things from Department of Defense to Department of State.
And every single one of these look to that idea, that document as to how they're going to operate.
And then you have the appointees to those positions, like Mattis, for example, where then he interprets what the intent is from the executive plan, and then for Department of Defense, how are we going to fulfill that?
And then that goes to all of the regional commanders and to all the special operations units.
And then missions are built off of fulfilling these ideas.
And those ideas were smash ISIS, remove radical terrorists off the planet, and provide security and stability with all of our partners.
And then grow who our partners are.
So like in Africa, if you went back five, six years, you would have Three or four, five countries that were part of this group of regional Africans wanting to be free.
They don't want Boko Haram or Al-Qaeda or ISIS coming in and telling them what to do.
They want a free constitutional government.
So we started helping.
Now there's like a dozen of those countries that are part of this group.
And they're all doing the work.
And it's amazing.
It's amazing to see what happens in just a couple of years in any one of these countries when they start doing the work.
It's no different than a person, right?
But it's a group of people.
And they're all believing in these ideas of freedom and Of education, of prosperity, and we're just creating an opportunity for those to be realized.
What you're saying right now about the importance of funding the military, about all the positive aspects of these operations, and about how squashing these fundamentalist terrorist groups can lead to democracy in all these places and can lead to flourishing schools and growth of these individual areas.
Half the country doesn't want the other half to look good.
And we definitely know that all of our enemies, foreign enemies, are 100% participating right now as we move towards November in delegitimizing what this country stands for in the process of our elections and what we're allowed to do successfully overseas.
From Russia to China, they are In the business of hurting America.
And they're not only here, like making our election seem unfair or broken, but also abroad, where they're trying to...
Every place that we are, they are as well.
And they're trying to do the opposite of what we...
They want radicals.
They want broken.
They want...
Because every little bit that they do is more that we have to fight against.
When I said that an insurgency is cheap and a counterinsurgency is expensive, but we're fighting counterinsurgency over the planet.
As we move towards the elections, with Portland firing off, Seattle firing off, I think it would be very naive for us not to think that China and Russia are negatively participating.
If you look at 2016 with Hillary and Trump, were the Russians involved?
Like, for sure, they're stoking the fires of hate on both sides.
And it didn't matter who won.
Like, they didn't want Trump to win.
They didn't need Hillary to win.
They just need the process to look broken.
They just have to make us look bad.
It doesn't matter to them who wins.
And coming to Biden and Trump, it doesn't matter who wins.
It matters that they delegitimize the process of a fair election in a constitutional republic.
It's really easy to do.
I'm going to use...
All right, you have a birthday coming up.
You are going to turn 60. Happy birthday.
You look great for being 60, Joe.
And you're going to have a party to celebrate this.
And...
You're going to have all your friends over.
You got some gay guys.
You got some black guys.
You got some Mexicans.
You're a pretty balanced person with lots of different friends from lots of different cultures.
But they're all going to be in the same room.
You got this big, huge melting pot of your party.
Cool.
It's going to be a rad party.
You got a bar.
You kind of rented this cool place.
It has a few bathrooms.
It has this nice balcony.
This beautiful statue.
And there's this ice sculpture that has some great drinks on it and the punches underneath it.
I don't want you to have a good party.
I'm your insurgent.
I don't like you.
I don't like your ideas.
I don't like this idea of everybody being able to co-mingle.
So I'm gonna go and I'm gonna ruin your party.
I had a friend of a friend that kind of got me in.
So how hard is it for me to ruin your party?
Super easy, right?
I could go piss in the punch.
I could go find that gay guy, use some homophobic slurs.
I could find that Muslim over in the corner and tell him that the PLO is the dumbest group on the planet, that Israel should own everything, and that Muslims are ignorant, multi-wife assholes.
All of it's untrue.
It doesn't matter if I believe it.
I'm just there to piss people off.
I'm going to go to those two bathrooms.
I'm going to go give you an upper-decker.
I'm going to go poop in the top of two of those toilets.
That's disgusting, right?
It stinks.
Maybe I'm going to go chip away at that little beautiful sculpture.
So when somebody goes to scoop their first punch, the whole thing topples over.
So easy and so cheap for me to ruin everything about your day.
That's what they're trying to do in an election, right?
They're just trying to erode the process and ruin it, and it costs them nothing to go and piss off every single group.
The far right, the far left, they just want people angry.
And the process is so simple.
Now with Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, they set up these massive bots that can go and like things and create...
And they play this long game where they just start planting seeds of distrust and...
They're spending money to make Antifa mad.
They're spending money to make the Boogaloo bros look mad.
And they want everybody to be mad at everybody moving into November.
So then the process, the election, is jacked.
But you're party, so you do have an option.
This is the catch-22 of how difficult it is as a leader to stop it.
I could hire security guards.
I could put a guard at the front.
I could put a guard by the punch.
I could put a guard in every bathroom.
I could check all the IDs of everybody coming in.
I could have an exact list of people that are allowed to attend.
But now I just ruined you.
Just ruined your own party.
Because you're trying to provide security and stability.
And you put all of that in there.
But now your party sucks.
Right?
Like, I can't get a drink.
I'm only allowed one drink.
And nobody's allowed to talk to each other.
And nobody's allowed to hang out.
Everybody has to be segregated and separate.
So you ruined your own party.
So in either case, you give me freedom of movement, the American way, and I'm going to ruin it.
Or you try to come in too heavy-handed, and then you look like a dictator.
You'll look like Hitler himself.
So how do you have a good party?
It's hard.
That's where we're at right now.
They're literally doing that with every way they can.
They just need the process, the idea of America to look broken.
That's success to them.
I can say this with such absolute conviction because this is what we do.
This is what we do.
This is what we go overseas and do.
We have specific groups that are doing this exact thing to make them look bad, but they're doing it to us and because America is so free, it's so much easier to do here.
Like, how hard is it for me to go to Russia or land in China and go and start planting seeds of discontent?
So because of the fact that we have freedom, because of the fact that we have these democratic elections, because of the fact that we have the ability to express ourselves and communicate freely online, which they don't really have in either one of those countries.
I mean, there's severe repercussions for criticizing the government in China.
Severe.
And same thing about Russia.
So because we have this freedom over here, they participate.
America, wake up and open your eyes to this is happening where how naive is it for us not to think that our enemies are trying to negatively affect what is happening here.
Because this is the place where you can negatively affect it in the way that they can do it here, which is different than the way you could affect anything in Russia or China.
Because of the fact that we have this freedom of expression.
Because our media takes this horrible partisan position, whether you're on the left or the right, they only want to look at the things that show that the left or the right, depending on who your enemy is, is fucking up and how China or Russia, whoever you deem the player that's the key player, is influencing our elections because they want this person to win.
So if you love America, you will vote against Trump because the Russians want Trump to win.
This is the fucking narrative that keeps getting spit out at us.
And it doesn't sit well with me.
And I'm glad you're explaining it the way you're explaining it.
Because partisanship and this inability to look at things objectively is really fucking us up.
It's really bad.
And these motherfuckers that are running the media, there's a reason why people aren't paying attention anymore.
There's a reason.
There's a reason why those sources are not trusted.
Like, I'm spending probably half of my waking hours right now developing a way to be able to train police officers and get something into every single police department so they can, like, you know, unconscious bias, training about how to de-escalate, understanding different cultures, right?
If I'm walking down the street and I see a Sikh and I'm like, oh, is this a Muslim?
I have to go here and fight this guy.
The guy comes in a little bit close because that's part of their culture and it's also part of their culture that they have a knife.
But I don't know any of this and I just misunderstood who this person is and his religion and his ethnicity.
And now I have this super bad interaction because this guy stepped into my space and all that could have been trained out.
I could have taught somebody those things.
And with everybody being so stoked on getting angry and finding out the problems, nobody's talking about solutions.
Right?
If there's a problem in law enforcement, and there is, how do we fix that?
Can we talk about that instead of trying to find the next poor Uber driver that gets lost and immediately calling him a racist?
Or finding the next Antifa guy that is really just poor, lost his job, has been living in his mom's basement, and just needs something to do?
Let's give them something to do, and let's make a positive impact.
And then is soaking up all this attention that he got for shooting a Trump supporter that he's claiming was out there trying to kill a friend of his of color.
And the things that he has to do in a day, you know, the number of people and interactions that he has to have, that he has had in his career.
And every single time, is it going to be this Antifa guy that just shot somebody in Monterey?
There was actually some Antifa guys that had thrown some pipe bombs in Oakland.
Yeah.
And then drove into northern Monterey County and set off some more pipe bombs, shot a couple more cops.
And this kind of got buried in the news.
But my brother was one of the guys that showed up there.
And they have to deal with that, like a radical domestic terrorist.
And they also have to show up when a husband and wife are having a dispute.
They have to walk up to every single car as if that person is going to kill them.
That person might be a DUI. That person may not want to, if they have broken the law, not want to get out of the car.
Are you going to make them get out of the car?
It is the hardest job in the world.
They're under-trained.
They're underfunded.
But they are the necessary security for us to prosper and be successful.
And my brother is the most selfless, incredible person, as most of the guys.
And I train with a ton of law enforcement.
And they're not perfect.
Nobody is.
No human is.
But you can't train perfection, but you can train bad out of people.
And that's one of the many reasons why I think training is so paramount.
And, you know, to the election and people are always focusing on the bad, like, you gotta find solutions.
If you're mad and you believe in Black Lives Matter, what is your solution?
If you think that cops have a problem, like, I've found a solution.
We're creating this virtual reality headset that we're going to be able to put into every single police department where they'll be able to listen to and interact with different ethnicities that are consistent with the populations that they work in.
You know, like be able to identify unconscious bias.
Like I'm pretty aware of the biases that I have because I look through the lens of my life through pretty jaded glasses, right?
The things that I've gone and done and seen.
But there's no way that I'm aware of all of them.
But there are ways that you can train that out of people and that you can show them and explore.
We have some of the best, brightest minds, PhDs, law enforcement trainers that are designing these things that we can put.
Specular Theory is my partner in this.
We can take these things and send them to every single law enforcement department and train people about how to interact.
And when you're a hammer and everything looks like a nail, and you're going to all of these different interactions with like, is this guy going to shoot me?
It's hard.
Because he might.
But he also might just be having a bad day and you need to know how to de-escalate that.
But you also have to be able to enforce the law.
And that's one of the hardest things right now.
And I know the Chinese and the Russians are loving the fact that we are questioning, do laws really matter?
Can we just let things go?
Can we just tear down statues?
Can you just walk out into the middle of an interstate and stop traffic because you believe you have the right to do that?
No, you can't do that.
Rule of law is there not just for you, but it's for us.
If you believe in the collective, then you have to believe that those laws are there for our good.
And we have to make sure we elect good guys that put in good laws.
But, like, if you just don't believe that it matters, and you can go and you can riot and you can loot, and it's just property.
Like, you can burn that building down.
It's just property.
Lives are more important than property.
But there are people's lives that are attached to that property.
It might be how they make their money.
It might be where they live.
Like, watching Antifa throw those Molotov cocktails while there were kids sleeping upstairs in the apartment building.
Not only that, but what you said earlier, if you do destroy that property, understand the lives that are going to be affected because that community is going to be entrenched in poverty.
I wonder what can be done to decouple us from the influence of social media in terms of like there's no way you could stop as of right now.
There's no way you could stop trolls.
There's no way you can stop things like the Internet Research Agency in Russia or all these different online groups that are just completely created just to fuck with people.
My buddy Shane and I were talking about gaslighting this morning, and he and his buddies flew their helicopters over the Trump parade that just happened here in Austin.
Thousands of boats went out there.
And, um, like a few boats sunk and they're like one guy rented a boat and he forgot to put a plug in there.
And, um, one of them was like a really crappy fishing boat that shouldn't even been on the water.
And then one guy bought a brand new boat, didn't even know how to operate it.
And poor guy sunk his boat, but Shane's like flying around and he sees everything, you know, and they're in there.
Robinson's 44. They're like doing these cool V flights and, um, you know, gaslighting is crazy.
Telling somebody something that's not true.
They're seeing it with their eyes, but they're hearing that it's not real, right?
The original play, Gaslight, was this guy making his wife be crazy.
He would be able to adjust the wick on his gaslight so it would get darker in there.
And she'd be like, is it darker in here?
She's like, no, what's wrong with you?
Are you crazy?
No.
So we're in a time where people are telling us what we're supposed to be seeing, but that's not what we're seeing.
So I have this conflict.
Am I supposed to believe what I'm seeing right here?
But we're being gaslit by the wrong information that's being curated in our hands, in our phones, and on our TVs.
I don't think you could take the final version of these two stories and be like, this is the same situation?
There's no possible way that these two stories that went to the right and went to the left that I'm now trying to corroborate could have happened in the same situation.
Again, I really think that we're so limited because the distribution methods that we have right now for getting out information allow for biases.
I don't know what the future has in store, but I think that we're going to come to a time in the not-so-distant future where you're going to be able to know exactly what's real and what's not real.
You know, we have the fact checker, which is like the biggest bullshit ever.
As a politician's talking, it's like, fact check.
And the person fact checking is the most biased, furthest thing from objective fact check that you could possibly get.
And it's like, but you're checking the facts.
What if as that person was talking...
Real time.
Like, this is true.
Here's like the truth, not Wikipedia statistics, not like Google, also curated statistics, not like information driven from whatever news corporation, but just like the real data was next to that person as they're doing the next debate if a debate happens.
But it doesn't matter because people want to see who can hang in a debate and they don't want to vote for a loser.
So if the guy gets up there and falls apart in the debate and starts stumbling his words and starts flubbing and forgetting what he was talking about, like Biden's done on multiple occasions, a lot of people are not going to vote for him.
Especially, like, I love it when local politicians do debates because those are, like, no-hold-barred truth attacks.
You know, like, well, I know you took money from this auto park place, you know, and, like, this guy's like, well, I know you're getting money from, you know, Beto O'Rourke, and you're like, this is awesome, you know, like, I'm learning so much right now that there's no way I would have learned.
We kind of have an idea about Trump's policies, but how do we learn about Biden's policies?
President Trump has not held a single mock debate session, has no plans to stage a formal practice round as he readies for his first face-off with Joe Biden in less than three weeks, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions.
The president has dismissed the typical debate preparations.
He participated in four years ago, joking to aides and allies that he's been preparing for debate since he was born.
This is what happens to fighters when they get their ass kicked.
His ability to fight back an opponent in real time, he's argued, isn't something you have to practice.
That's, yeah, maybe.
Instead, Trump has so far chosen to prepare through informal discussions with key allies and Can you?
We get to hear what they actually believe in, what they're going to do, who they're going to appoint, what judges are going to be coming in, what policies from gun control to all of it.
This is 2020. I mean, we have the ability to have that.
We're not talking about 1979. We're talking about 2020. If they wanted to do that, they both wanted to come here in Austin, sit down and have a debate, I would 100% do it.
The only uncharted person, totally uncharted portion of the universe is the brain.
You know, I had, as we used to say in the Senate, excuse the point of personal privilege here.
I had two cranial aneurysms, and they literally had to take the top of my head off.
I mean, they take a saw and they cut your head off and go in to find the artery that is One was leaking, the other that hadn't, before it burst.
Those of your docs know every profession has their sick jokes.
The joke among docs is, how do you know someone's had a cranial aneurysm?
On the autopsy table.
Only 20% of the people have it even get to the table.
Well, one of the fascinating things is, the second operation, after the first one, which was a bleed, and they gave me a relatively low chance of surviving.
I remember going down to the doc, asking the doc, you know, you're counting the ceiling tiles, and you're heading into the operating room.
A lot of you have been there.
And I said, Doc, what are my chances?
I had two great neurosurgeons.
And I'll never forget, I will not mention his name, he's one of the leading neurosurgeons in the world.
The only thing that comes from isolation is a Unabomber.
There's nothing good that you can take a candidate and stick him in a basement and hide him there when he is going to have to be in front of 7 billion people and be their representative, both foreign and domestic, about how we're going to be operating.
Two terms, or six terms rather, six years as a congresswoman, two overseas tours, two.
Been a congresswoman for six fucking years, exemplary record, really reasonable, really intelligent, displays all of the qualities of leadership that you would want from someone running for president.
And not like, if we're going to solidarity to Black Lives Matter and believe that we can positively affect change, what she was doing as a cop, she's the worst of the cops.
She was targeting in the most racist, vicious way, trying to attack the Black communities and black, you know, not even criminals, like drug users, and just hammered them with everything she possibly could.
Well, I would love to have you have that, because the way you explain it, and from your own personal experience serving, this is not just some fucking airy-fairy ideas.
I take little weird notes, and you could go, and they're all dated, from trips to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Niger, to Nigeria, to Burkina Faso, to Mortania, to...
Morocco to South Africa, like every freaking crazy place that I have to go.
And you could look and then like go forward two years, three years and look again and be like, what?
Look at this change.
Like it's black and white written in front of you.
And my impressions of physically being there at the same place removed by 24 months.
But that's why I wanted to have you want to talk about this because this is a narrative that doesn't get discussed because it's either you're pro-Trump or you're pro-Biden and if you're for Trump you're a racist and if you're for Biden you're a fool.
It's like these narratives are so goddamn stupid and they're so damaging to us and I think a lot of them have been reinforced and stoked.
The flames have been stoked by people in other countries that are acting as trolls.
So if they're doing this, what else are they doing in real time?
So they're not just online.
If you don't think that there are...
We call them Jedbergs.
If you don't think that there are foreign operatives that are working here, both at universities and in cities, part of the political process or part of the Antifa strategic organization, they are doing this in real time in person, not just online.
Strontium operating from Russia has attacked more than 200 organizations, including political campaigns, advocacy groups, parties, and political consultants.
Zirconium operating in China has attacked high-profile individuals associated with the election, including people associated with the Joe Biden for President campaign and the prominent leaders in the international affairs community.
Phosphorus operating from Iran Has continued to attack the personal accounts of people associated with Donald J. Trump for president campaign.
And now, as we're, what, five months removed, we're having that same conversation about schools.
Well, schools is a necessary component for people to work.
Like, if your kids aren't in school, you can't go to work, because that's a form of childcare for a lot of households.
And we're like, ah, I'm not sure it's safe.
I was joking about injecting myself with COVID in my neck.
You could take my breastfed babies that eat elk and free-range chickens and have lived in safety and security their entire lives, and you could cover the whole entire room with COVID, and my 10-month-old is going to poop that stuff out in like an hour.
Because they're healthy, balanced, powerful individuals.
My teenage daughters, we have not lived a day in this whole entire pandemic really recognizing what we're supposed to be doing.
We have maintained health outside, activities, exercise, hunting, real food, and so, so better situated and prepared now for what looks like a scary six months in the future.
I'm scared because this entire country, 6 billion people, have been locked up moving into an election that is going to be a frightening, dangerous election.
When you say I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but here we are with a pandemic that shut down our economy for five months on an election year that looks like it was the origin is in China.
I just think that, first of all, talking to Brett Weinstein about it, who's a biologist, and he went into great...
If you're listening to this podcast, please go back and listen to the most recent podcast I did with Brett, which was like, what, four months ago, Jamie?
Three months ago, maybe?
Something along those lines?
Yeah, maybe even two months ago.
He detailed the scientific reasons why he believes this came from a lab.
And he said, I do not know for certain, but with reasonable speculation, you could look at this and say, this makes a lot of sense that it was coming from a lab because of these particular reasons.
China, because it's a communist country, because they're a dictatorship, there's not a lot of incentive to behave the way you would hope that an organization would behave.
You're under the knife and the boot of the government all the time.
Not like a little trickle of, you know, cut by a thousand or death by a thousand cuts.
Like, 9-11 happened.
We lost and gave up so much of our perceived rights.
Right?
Like, no, you can't look at my emails.
Like, I thought my emails were protected like my mail.
You can't open my mail without a warrant.
There's a due process to that.
That's gone.
I think every single 20-year-old right now expects that every text message that they send and every Facebook message, DM, Instagram, Twitch, every one of those things can be read by somebody else.
That they don't own that stuff.
That's not how I grew up.
I grew up like that was my ideas.
Those are my words.
That's my property.
If somebody wants it, they have to have a warrant to look at it.
Now, go from 9-11 to Corona.
Now the second most serious time that we lost more of our freedoms.
9-11 and this.
Winston Churchill said, never waste a good crisis.
And if you are not a strong, healthy individual that is able to be self-sufficient and be able to rationally look at things without getting spun up by the echo chamber that you're living in in Twitter, you're going to allow that to happen because you're just being pitted against each other by this dribble that's being pushed into your face by people that are just trying to profiteer off of what you see and what you hear and what you think.
So let's say the trans community, LGBTQ community, was in big support of this bill.
Because it's not fair for male to female.
So if, let's say, a 17-year-old has sex with a 15-year-old and she gets pregnant, there is a law in place where he is not going to go on the sex registry because he, as a father to that child, would have a difficult time being able to, if he's on a sex registry, get a job, pay for child support.
So they have kind of protections in place where if...
So the community, like the LGBTQ community was like, this is an unfair law because, you know, it's a gay relationship.
They have a harsher penalty than a male and female relationship.
So they should be the same if...
Well, I recognize that, and I acknowledge that that's the case, and I want it to be fair, but I also don't want a 19-year-old or 24-year-old having sex with a 15-year-old.
It might not be the worst idea in the world, but as far as, like, being responsible for your actions, 18 is a 18 is where, and that was the point of my post, is that that person can have consent.
And when it comes to children heavily involved in counter-sex trafficking, moving from Deliver Fund to Guardian Group to now with Victor Marks, fighting worldwide and nationally, like...
This disgusting thing that is pedophilia.
That is not a sexual orientation and people in power like finding children to victimize and they are worth money.
him now oh my god he was the darling of california beautiful man slick back hair looking great speaks well they fucking hate him there now my brother sister my sister lives in in paso and her husband who i call my brother um because we've been best friends for kids since kids uh he works for a And, um, so he's, he's pretty like military go-getter, hard worker.
You know, my sister's a homeschooler.
She's homeschooled all their kids and they're brilliant.
Like play multiple instruments, um, like, you know, grades ahead of everybody else.
And while the whole entire world is like, what are we going to do about education?
My sister's like individual responsibility.
You could have been doing it yourself.
Not everybody has that opportunity, I understand.
My parents being landowners, my brother being a police officer, we have been in California, that's where I grew up, and we have been fighting for rational, reasonable politics, and we feel like we're in a foreign land.
And Texas DPS, you're going to learn a little bit about them.
They're amazing.
Department of Public Safety for Texas, it's our state police force.
They're incredible.
They have this super military academy.
And I think people, when they hear military, like as I was talking about that virtual reality training that we're going to get to law enforcement, they're like, wait, why is this special forces guy training law enforcement?
Like they don't need, a police officer doesn't need to be special forces.
No, you don't need a tank or an AT4 or, you know, a 50 cal unless you're fighting the cartels.
But what you do need is the process of the refiner's fire and being able to train imperfections out of people.
Could you imagine if a city council member had to ride along with the police for a month?
They've got to put their hand on the back of the car.
Put their fingerprint on there.
Because if they die, they want a little bit of evidence.
Police officers do that.
Every time they walk up to a car, if you watch them, they go and they'll put their thumb or their hand on the back of the car so their print is on the car.
So if they get killed there, later you can find out who did it.
There's like no proof of voter fraud by mail that I've looked up and found that anybody else has been looking up and finding just saying that it's going to be a problem without providing evidence.
Yeah, when someone's saying there's no evidence for voter fraud in the past, yeah, right, but what percentage of people have voted by mail in the past?
It's been reasonably small.
Find out that McKennany quote, because it's a kind of crazy thing.
117% California registered.
She was explaining how there's multiple issues with this.
Like, these people that are sending in these mail-in ballots, like...
How many of these are legit?
How do you find out how much research has to be done, how much investigation has to be done to make sure that these are legit ballots?
I found it in the transcripts, but I'm trying to say that how they found out that there's 112% of the people that are registered to vote, there's an explanation for it.
I know some 77-year-olds that you're like, look, Shane, my buddy, his dad, has a six-pack.
He's pushing 70. Really?
Jacked.
He's out there barefooting on the lake at 40 miles an hour.
He skis every single morning and all of his professional bull rider friends, they got gnarled hands from strapping into the bulls for so long, but they're still chunky shoulders, strained necks.
You're like, dude, how old are you?
You just look amazing.
I'm 41. I'm looking at these guys like, I'm going to look like this when I get this age.
Yeah, so I remember my dad's 40th birthday and all his 40-year-old friends were there.
And I have to talk disparagingly about my dad's friends.
But, you know, there were beer bellies, you know, and guys kind of hanging out talking war stories of, you know, their glory days and college athletics.
Yeah, I don't think you people know what it's like to be both.
Either people know what it's like to be tired and weak, or they know what it's like to be strong.
But when you've been both, when you really know where it can slide into, and the only way you know that is if you've been strong.
And most people never really get there.
But when you get strong and then maybe you get a little bit sick or maybe you get injured and you go, fuck, once this ACL heals up, I'm getting back after it.
But, like, you get this contagious itch, you know, and, like, you scratch the surface, and then you see what's on the other side, and you're like, oh, and then you scratch a little bit more, and you see, like, how fun, and, like, food tastes better, sex is more fun, you know, like, work is easier.
You got a microphone now and you're yelling it out because you've got a whole bunch of other losers who'd gathered together and you could say nonsense and they all cheer.
A bunch of people are suing the city and the state for not providing the services that they had by taxes and legislation they're supposed to have.
So their businesses were burnt.
All because they're saying that the local government was complicit in letting these things happen by not protecting, by not having police come and say, nope, you can't do this.
There's a law that prohibits you from, because a guy has a cell phone and you don't know who that guy is, you don't get to go beat him.
I don't have control of this business, so I'm going to go smash the windows and burn it down.
All those things are happening within that Chaz.
We're like, well, there's laws against that, right?
That's arson and that's assault.
But you guys weren't enforcing any of these.
So the lawsuit is that these people are complicit.
And it's like, it's going to be, one of them was a father of a murdered kid is suing the, I think the city of Seattle for allowing that to happen.