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Aug. 21, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
51:28
Joe Rogan Experience #1529 - Whitney Cummings & Annie Lederman
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annie lederman
16:58
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joe rogan
20:17
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whitney cummings
12:09
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jamie vernon
00:04
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joe rogan
First of all, how do you two not have a show together?
annie lederman
I don't know.
joe rogan
Hanging with you guys the other night at the store, first of all, how much fun was that?
whitney cummings
The best.
unidentified
It was so much fun.
annie lederman
It was so fun.
I can't remember because it's been so long.
It's been like six months now.
Was that what every night was like?
joe rogan
A lot of nights were like that.
annie lederman
We just had the craziest circus freak night.
Just fun.
Just laughing constantly.
joe rogan
We used to go to the back bar and crack each other up.
That was the constant thing.
unidentified
For hours.
joe rogan
It was either in the back bar or the back smoking area and everybody was laughing.
annie lederman
Yep.
joe rogan
And you get like a low-grade depression when you're not around it.
whitney cummings
Yeah, it's so true.
joe rogan
You forget for months and months and months.
And then we had one night where we were all like, ah!
unidentified
It's so true.
joe rogan
Just shooting up and saying ridiculous shit.
annie lederman
I do feel like I had like a crush on the night.
Like I kept thinking about it like we'd fucked for the first time.
I was like, I fucked that night.
And I was like, is he thinking about me too?
And I was like texting with you guys.
whitney cummings
We spent three days replaying the night.
Remember when you said this?
That was so funny.
joe rogan
I got so emotional when I pulled up and then I walked into the store, I almost cried.
I was like, I can't believe I'm here.
If I had been away for five months and I came back, I'd be like, I can't believe I'm here, that'd be great.
But I was like, ooh, is here gonna ever be here again?
Is it ever gonna be what it used to be?
There's no reason why it shouldn't be if we could do it the other night.
The way we did it the other night, everybody gets tested, you go and hang out, and it's fun, and we have a great time.
annie lederman
That was STD tests, but we do all have COVID, unfortunately.
whitney cummings
My chlamydia killed my COVID, so I'm good.
Well, COVID goes away.
annie lederman
We think.
Fingers crossed.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't know, right?
What if it's an annual thing?
It keeps coming back.
I have a friend who got malaria, and then he got malaria again when he got sick.
So it had been dormant inside of his system.
My friend Justin Wren, he runs Fight for the Forgotten.
He does charities in the Congo.
He builds wells for the pygmies.
And he's there all...
He got malaria three fucking times.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
And so he goes over there, he gets malaria, like deathly ill, comes back, and then he beats it, does all the medication, and then a long time later, he gets really sick, and when he gets sick, the malaria kicks back in again.
And he wasn't even in the Congo.
annie lederman
The malaria's like, not to be forgotten.
He's like, this is a charity for me.
joe rogan
Malaria has killed more people than anything.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
Like anything ever.
whitney cummings
More than wars, I think.
annie lederman
My dad had malaria.
He was born in Panama because his dad was stationed there, and he got malaria when he was a baby, but it never came up again.
He never had any problems with it.
joe rogan
Jamie, didn't we look this up?
Didn't they say that, no, I fucked this up, that malaria has killed half the people who have ever died ever?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa!
That's wild.
jamie vernon
When we looked it up, it's been exaggerated a little bit, but it's definitely killed a lot of people.
joe rogan
Let's say a quarter.
If we say a quarter, it's probably pretty...
unidentified
Something like that.
joe rogan
Imagine that.
Just let's say 25% of all the people that have ever died, ever, have been killed by malaria.
Mosquitoes, right?
I just put this on my Twitter or my Instagram that they released or they're about to release some fucking untold hundreds of millions of genetically modified mosquitoes in the Everglades.
unidentified
I saw that!
joe rogan
In the Everglades or in the Florida Keys?
whitney cummings
Florida, I think.
joe rogan
Who the fuck knows?
whitney cummings
And what is it supposed to do?
joe rogan
I don't know.
You get some fucking nerds.
annie lederman
Did you read it?
whitney cummings
Delivering the vaccine.
joe rogan
I got scared.
I pulled away from it.
And then I got a text from a friend of mine who's a biologist and he was like, what the fuck are they doing?
unidentified
If you're scared, now I'm really scared!
annie lederman
I saw you post that, and I was like, maybe I should read the article, and then I was like, reading's really challenging.
Maybe I'll just go and ask Rogan what happened.
whitney cummings
I'm still catching up on murder hornets.
I still don't know what happened with the pee tape.
Every day is some crazy adrenalizing story.
joe rogan
Do you think the pee tape is real, and is it going to come out right before the election?
If it does come out right before the election...
unidentified
Nobody's going to care!
joe rogan
But does it work now because of the mail-in thing?
People are already voting.
Right?
whitney cummings
Right.
Right.
I think we are sort of at a point where nothing fucking matters.
We're in this sort of nihilistic thing where it's like if a pee tape came out right now of Trump peeing on someone, we'd just be like...
annie lederman
They don't care.
Nobody cares.
People that like Trump aren't like, I like him because of how he treats women.
I like how he doesn't pee on women.
I love how women leave the room with him dry from urine.
whitney cummings
As long as he didn't apologize, he'd be fine.
annie lederman
Yeah, exactly.
whitney cummings
As soon as you apologize, you're fucked.
annie lederman
You can't cancel Trump.
whitney cummings
It's like in a car accident, the first person to apologize, it's their fault, so you gotta just get out in the car accident and just be like, what the fuck, man?
unidentified
What the fuck was up?
joe rogan
But it is a gross thing when someone hits you and then they say that was your fault.
You're like, oh, this is the grossest.
annie lederman
Oh, never apologize.
You told me that your dad told you that, right?
whitney cummings
Never apologize.
unidentified
Yep.
annie lederman
Which you told me after I got in a car accident.
The one advice my dad gave me that was the best advice was, when you're in a car accident, never say sorry because you'll get blamed for it.
joe rogan
But what if you actually did it?
Then you should say sorry.
If you hit somebody with your car.
annie lederman
No, you look at them and you go like, I'm going to sue the shit out of you.
You missing a leg?
I'm not paying for that.
joe rogan
Don't you think you should say sorry if you re-end someone?
annie lederman
Of course.
whitney cummings
I did that.
I was thinking about you because you posted that irresistible, that book the other day.
Dude, I re-ended someone texting like a year ago and I got out and I was like, I know I need to have a consequence for this behavior because I was texting and driving.
annie lederman
Well, you have to get the consequence, Caitlyn Jenner.
You have to become a man.
You have to transition after you do it.
whitney cummings
Can you give me your doctor, Annie?
joe rogan
Well, there's no consequences.
That's how you avoid the consequences, right?
Because nobody even talks about the Caitlyn Jenner thing.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
It's crazy, right?
annie lederman
Is it Kurt that has the joke where he's like, he harvested the vagina of the woman he killed?
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
whitney cummings
That is what I miss so much.
Honestly.
annie lederman
And that's Kurt Metzger.
unidentified
He hasn't been cancelled in a couple years.
whitney cummings
He needs to be re-canceled.
joe rogan
That's such a Kurt joke.
unidentified
He's gonna wake up and be like, fuck you guys, you just cancelled me.
joe rogan
It's a travesty that that guy's not more well known.
And every time I do podcasts with him too.
He's funny on podcasts.
He's smart as fuck.
He's really well read.
He's great.
annie lederman
Yeah, his ideas are very unique, funny, smart.
whitney cummings
Something that was so important at the Comedy Store the other night is that these last six months have sort of hoodwinked me into believing that jokes are dead, that we're not allowed to make jokes anymore.
Because Twitter, we're hallucinating with all the shit we're seeing on Twitter and blowing it up to be bigger than it should be.
But as soon as I saw Tony Hinchcliffe, I threw up.
I said the most offensive shit possible and everyone exploded and laughed and I was like, ah!
We'll fuck it back!
joe rogan
Oh, he's the best for that.
That little motherfucker will say the most evil shit.
annie lederman
No, the moment something happens, there's no too soon for, I mean, Tony's like...
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, not Tony!
whitney cummings
But I don't think we're designed to just be on the internet.
If you're just on the internet and not seeing human beings and making jokes around actual people, you can be tricked into thinking that that shit's real.
joe rogan
Well, Stanhope really said it best once.
He said, I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comics.
And that's what the other night was like.
I've had my little fix where I did a weekend in Houston a month or so ago, but it wasn't as fun as that night.
That night was the most fun because it was just a bunch of comics just laughing at each other.
annie lederman
Screaming, laughing, talking over each other.
It was just like...
joe rogan
But it's the art form of saying shit you don't really mean and everyone knows it.
We all know, like if you say something really gross to me, I know you don't mean it and I'm laughing hard.
It's like it's understood and it's also understood that you're taking a big fucking chance with our friendship by saying this crazy shit around me.
Because you trust me.
whitney cummings
It's like the ultimate trust fall or something.
Like I'm going to say some crazy shit to you, you're not going to abandon me or judge me and you're going to be, it's like a trauma bond.
annie lederman
Trauma Bond.
unidentified
That's my favorite!
annie lederman
That's the name of your next special.
Bond.
Trauma Bond.
I'm gonna name it.
joe rogan
That totally should be a special.
Trauma Bond.
That's a great name for a special.
annie lederman
I've said some things to you where you've looked at me like, and I'm like, Are we not friends anymore?
There's two things I said to you that I'll never forget.
I just say things when they come to my head.
joe rogan
If I react that way, it's because I have to react that way.
annie lederman
Once I was like, do you think you have CTE and you could possibly at one point murder your family?
Do you think I could?
And I was like, oh, I don't know.
Can I have a fanny pack?
joe rogan
But, you know, part of the fun is mock anger.
annie lederman
Like, what?
joe rogan
What the fuck did you just say to me?
whitney cummings
It's like emotional sparring or something, you know?
And it's really fucked up because, like, just what's been going on the last couple of years, you know, it's like I never feel more equal.
Like, when people want to talk about men and women, I never feel more equal than when a male comic is fucking pummeling me.
Not physically, because they know I can fucking take it.
joe rogan
And you pummel right back.
unidentified
That's exactly right.
joe rogan
That's what's fun about it.
They're not doing it to be a bully.
They're doing it because you want to spar.
whitney cummings
And you can handle it.
joe rogan
And you're like, okay, bitch.
whitney cummings
Let's go.
joe rogan
And then everyone's at it.
annie lederman
Nobody wants you to go like, ow, and then like sulk and walk away.
That will ruin everything.
joe rogan
That ruins everything.
whitney cummings
Thank you for not thinking I'm fragile.
But it is funny when you just go like a little too far.
joe rogan
Well, that's the risk!
annie lederman
Well, the pink hair thing I wrote about you, I was like, is she going to get mad at me about that?
She tweeted, we were FaceTiming last night, and she tweeted, or Instagrammed a picture of it, and she goes, Annie Letterman, you're a mess.
And I wrote, okay, pink hair.
joe rogan
That's nothing.
annie lederman
I don't know, I was just like, is she going to get offended?
I don't know.
whitney cummings
Some people have weird Achilles heels, you know?
Some people have weird, I mean, I'm doing the roasts all the time.
It's amazing how you can accuse people of rape and say, like, crazy shit, racist shit, but then as soon as you say, like, your dog's ugly, like, They want to fucking storm off.
annie lederman
And that's you, obviously.
joe rogan
Gross Battle was really good for comedy.
Really good for comedy.
whitney cummings
That's where Annie and I met the first time.
annie lederman
Oh, should we talk about it?
whitney cummings
Our meet-cute story?
We didn't start off on great terms.
annie lederman
It was okay, though.
It wasn't that bad.
You texted me so fast afterwards that I was like, it's so weird Whitney Cummings just texted me.
whitney cummings
You are intimidating.
I am going to say that.
There's something very intimidating about you.
It's because you're showing your midriff at all times.
annie lederman
It doesn't matter.
All different shapes of muffins.
It doesn't matter what genre of...
whitney cummings
I'm afraid I'm going to get tetanus from your hoops.
joe rogan
Well, you're confident.
That's one thing.
annie lederman
It's Asperger's, honestly.
joe rogan
There's a fear that you could be mean.
So that's what people are scared of.
That you're confident, but you might be mean.
It's like, ooh, I've got to tread lightly.
annie lederman
I always think the funniest thing is the truth.
whitney cummings
You also dress.
You wear military garb.
annie lederman
You dress like a Navy SEAL. I do look anti-Semitic.
I'm going to be honest with these boots.
joe rogan
What about those boots?
annie lederman
You know, I just was like, should I wear sneakers or boots?
whitney cummings
Annie's dad didn't love her.
annie lederman
No, my dad loved me a lot.
whitney cummings
Too much.
annie lederman
Very mean.
No, not that much.
Way too much.
No, I was a teacher.
Whatever.
whitney cummings
Now you're just bragging.
annie lederman
I don't want to brag, but...
No, but so I did...
It was when Jason Reitman was filming the roast battle for Sundance.
And it was me against Mike Lawrence, who's an old friend of mine.
We did mics together and stuff.
And...
You and Dane Cook were the judge.
And I remember coming out and being so excited that Dane was there because I had a joke written.
But I went, Dane, I'm such a big fan.
I'm so glad you're here.
But I'm confused.
If you're here, who's at the improv getting bumped by Chris D'Elia?
And he just went away.
I didn't expect he was going to go.
He went...
He went like, that was funny, and then he liked me afterwards, and I was scared because I was like, is he going to tell me how my jokes suck now?
But he was cool.
whitney cummings
But then he said something else where he said to someone, you know, you're really good, you're going to be very successful, and I was like, yeah, but just don't take financial advice from Dan Cook.
He was like, don't hire his business manager.
joe rogan
His story that he told in your mom's house of how his brother stole his money is terrifying.
whitney cummings
Crazy.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
It's crazy.
annie lederman
Well, you said to me, I was saying, I was like, when I'm rich, I'm going to get a chef.
And you were like, keep your circle small, Annie.
You don't want a fucking chef.
joe rogan
You don't even want an assistant.
annie lederman
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you have an assistant, that means you do too much shit.
whitney cummings
That's a good point.
And by the time you tell someone to do something, you could have just done it yourself.
joe rogan
Look, you can get lucky.
I have friends that have had assistants that wind up being their best friends, and it's great.
They're just a cool person that they met that needed a job.
But I also have friends that got sued by their assistant, and David Spade got tasered and tied up.
unidentified
Almost murdered.
joe rogan
Almost murdered by his assistant.
His assistant was trying to kill him.
whitney cummings
David Spade has on his bedroom door a fucking latch, like a medieval wooden latch.
annie lederman
And the fucked up part is it's from the outside.
So when you go in, you can't leave.
whitney cummings
Imagine being a girl going in to hook up and he's like...
unidentified
It's like, damn.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
And he's a small man.
He's a tiny little guy.
So the fear of that must have been terrifying.
whitney cummings
Yeah, and I think the assistant, he told a story.
He had overdosed on Tylenol PM or something.
And if you take enough of that, your body goes into shock and you produce crazy adrenaline and has the opposite of a soporific effect or something.
unidentified
Really?
whitney cummings
So the guy was like hopped up and nuts.
And I think David had a gun under his bed and the guy took the gun out.
I mean, it's wild.
Be careful who you give the keys to your house to.
annie lederman
Oh, I was going to say, be careful if you try to rob David Spade.
He's got a gun under his bed.
joe rogan
Or if you do, just come in slow and sneak under the bed first.
whitney cummings
It is a water gun for his comedy bits.
But also, any assistant that wants to be a celebrity assistant wants what you have.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Or maybe they just think it's a good job.
Generalizations are our business.
They're fun.
You can have a nice assistant.
You can have a nice secretary.
You can have good people you work with.
There's a lot of people that are comedy teams, and it works out great.
Look at Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
Those fucking guys have been banging it out and making awesome shit forever.
unidentified
It can work.
annie lederman
They've been banging.
They're not out.
They're not out.
whitney cummings
But so how do we meet it?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
But, you know, it's like, there's generalizations.
We always like to talk about comedy marriages.
They don't work out.
But sometimes they work out.
whitney cummings
Yeah, Rich Voss and Bonnie McFarlane.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Rich Voss, Bonnie McFarlane.
annie lederman
Oh, my God.
whitney cummings
Tom and Christina.
joe rogan
Natasha and Mosha.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
They work.
Yeah, Tom and Christina.
There's a bunch of them.
annie lederman
I'm excited to see these kids and what happens to these kids.
unidentified
Yeah, they'll be funny.
joe rogan
They'll be funny kids.
annie lederman
Yeah, they're going to be hilarious.
joe rogan
They have to be.
annie lederman
Well, Rich and Bonnie's daughter just turned, I think she turned 13, Raina.
She is the fucking funny.
Sometimes she does their show with them.
unidentified
Right.
annie lederman
I've known her since she was a kid.
You think I'm scary.
I'm like, your daughter's like a cunt in the good way.
She's so funny.
She's so cutting.
But I see her and I'm like, you've got to be on your toes because she's the funniest, sharpest.
She's funnier than both of them.
joe rogan
Can you imagine growing up in that house?
annie lederman
Oh my god.
whitney cummings
Rich Ross has one of my favorite jokes that we're probably not allowed to tell anymore.
This joke is just fucking killing me.
He'd go, I don't mind fucking a girl on her period.
I just pretend like I'm killing her.
annie lederman
Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
That's a perfect example.
The reason why we're laughing is because he doesn't really mean that.
That's the problem with writing something like that down in quotes.
You would go, these guys, these fucking assholes are laughing at this.
Only because it's It's not real.
annie lederman
But also the same people that are complaining about it are the people that watch true crime shit and are literally masturbating and falling asleep to a beautiful tale of murder.
whitney cummings
Yeah, see, they watch CSI, they watch SVU, all these things.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird how many of those shows there are?
whitney cummings
Tons.
People love it.
joe rogan
And the ones, the really dumb ones, like the CSI ones that are so clunky, like at the end, no disrespect, but you know what I'm saying.
They kind of have to be.
They're wrapping up a show in an hour.
But at the end of it, it's always like, and they catch the bad guy.
Every time, you're like, whew.
Now I can sleep.
whitney cummings
Isn't that what was in that book, Irresistible, that you were just posting about?
Our brains are wired to need completion.
We have to get to the end of something.
Even if you're watching a shitty movie, if someone turns it off, you're like, I have to fucking know how it ends.
annie lederman
It sucks.
We're not edging with this movie.
joe rogan
No Country for Old Men was disappointing for a lot of people.
Because the end, you're like, hey, that guy is okay?
He gets away?
What the fuck?
whitney cummings
That's a wild movie.
joe rogan
That's a wild movie.
whitney cummings
I rewatched a lot of classic movies over the last six months because we haven't been able to do anything.
And I rewatched that shit.
That shit is insane.
The haircut is the craziest part of that movie.
joe rogan
His haircut's amazing.
annie lederman
Yeah, he is disturbing looking.
joe rogan
That dude is so good.
unidentified
Wait, is that what I look like right now?
Wait a second.
annie lederman
Wait a second.
He has your eye bags with me.
whitney cummings
That's me in 10 years when I go full Joan Rivers.
joe rogan
What is his name again?
whitney cummings
Javier Bardem.
joe rogan
When I go full Joan Rivers.
annie lederman
I like how you're Javier.
joe rogan
I remember one time I was at the Brea Improv, high as fuck, like way too high, and I was sitting there just breathing heavy, and Joan Rivers' show came on the television, and when you see someone with those fillers in their face and the ratio's all off, and their face isn't moving, I was horrified.
I was sitting there just barbecued.
unidentified
Watching the screen going, oh my god, this is crazy.
annie lederman
Well, I have a theory about plastic surgery.
If you're going to trim some off the nose, you have to put it on your chin or something.
You have a certain amount of face meat, and it has to stay on your face.
joe rogan
No, you're right.
There's actually a golden ratio.
The Fibonacci sequence actually applies to your face.
That's why when someone gets a nose job and you're like, your nose looks good, but it doesn't look like it's your nose.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's happening here?
whitney cummings
Nature knows what it's doing.
There's a certain arrangement.
It's like whack-a-mole.
If you mess one thing up, you're going to have to move everything else.
But I was reading something about body dysmorphia, about how we've gotten so dysmorphic about what we look like, because we're always looking at ourselves on screens and in photos, which is the reverse of how other people see us.
And they say that if you were to see yourself out in the world, you wouldn't be able to recognize yourself.
That's how dysmorphic we are.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous, because there's videos of you.
It's so stupid.
unidentified
Whoever said that's an idiot.
annie lederman
Also, I have a twin brother.
joe rogan
I would go, I'm right there.
What the fuck are you talking about?
whitney cummings
That's me.
unidentified
I'm famous.
joe rogan
I know what my tattoos look like.
That's what my head looks like.
unidentified
But we're just so dysmorphic about what we- We have Google alerts on ourselves, okay?
joe rogan
People say ridiculous shit sometimes, and it kind of sort of makes sense, but it doesn't.
I remember reading once that the Native Americans, when they first saw Columbus and the people in the boats coming, They couldn't see them?
They couldn't see them because they didn't know what that was.
I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
whitney cummings
They figured it out, yeah.
joe rogan
They could look at, how do you, like, then explain UFOs.
whitney cummings
Right.
joe rogan
How do people see UFOs?
unidentified
Explain asteroids.
annie lederman
I knew this would happen.
joe rogan
If you've seen an asteroid.
annie lederman
I knew we were coming to aliens.
unidentified
Yes.
annie lederman
I had a feeling.
whitney cummings
It didn't take as long as I thought it would, actually.
annie lederman
We had a bet.
Whitney, you owe me $10,000.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
joe rogan
There's no way they didn't see the boats.
That's a dumb thing.
People are like, oh wow, they didn't see the boats.
annie lederman
How the fuck do you know what they saw?
They saw things that look like this thing they're going to find out is called boats.
joe rogan
That's 500 years ago.
How the fuck do you know what they saw?
whitney cummings
I think the more fascinating thing about what you're saying is the fact that people are so willing to believe it, which is why we're in the situation we're in.
People want to believe crazy shit.
So when you see fake news, you're like, yeah, that happened.
You want to believe something ridiculous.
joe rogan
But it's also people say things like that, like they couldn't see the boat so that you pay attention to what they're writing.
Like, oh, this guy, he's saying crazy shit.
And then you go and pay, like, that's why people say crazy shit.
There's a lot of people that are, look.
annie lederman
A lot of our friends.
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
But like online trolls, right?
Like, what are they doing?
They're saying crazy shit so you pay attention.
I mean, that's really what it is.
whitney cummings
And it's addictive.
They know you get that adrenaline hit from the clickbait.
annie lederman
I just thought they wanted me to know I'm a fat cunt.
unidentified
I didn't know that.
annie lederman
I thought they were just like, she's got to know she's a fat cunt.
whitney cummings
I'm a busted cunt.
Exactly.
annie lederman
I have to tell her.
whitney cummings
Has anything ever hurt your feelings in the comments?
annie lederman
If I'm on my period, I'm filled with rage.
And then I go, oh shit.
I go, it's the red week, guys.
whitney cummings
You still get your period.
That's good news.
joe rogan
The red week.
unidentified
Oh my god.
annie lederman
Whitney, you just made yourself elderly for no reason.
We're the same age, bitch.
You're just more successful than me.
I was like, Whitney, you know, we're the same age.
You're just way more successful than me.
unidentified
I think of you as being, like, 20, and I think of me as being, like, 71. Well, she had, like, a blackout segment of her life that, like, doesn't count.
annie lederman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
It counts towards you being funny, but it doesn't count towards, like, life progress.
annie lederman
I'm five years younger than I am, because I just didn't have those years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
annie lederman
But there is footage, you know, luckily...
Drugs?
Just drinking.
whitney cummings
Oh, got it, got it, got it.
annie lederman
You know, just with enough Jaeger, you can really...
whitney cummings
Have I been with you drunk before?
annie lederman
I bet that's wild.
No, I quit drinking right after my first open mic.
whitney cummings
I bet you're a hot mess.
annie lederman
Oh, I was fun.
They called me Fun Girl Annie, which I just realized was an insult now.
I was like, oh.
I was like, that's right, I'm fun.
And everyone's like, yeah, bitch, you're fun.
whitney cummings
Did it, like, destroy your life?
annie lederman
Yeah, I would definitely be dead now, I think, if I didn't stop drinking.
whitney cummings
And what did you drink?
Jaeger?
annie lederman
I loved Jaeger.
I liked whiskey.
I liked anything that was kind of like I would either be in a frat or with a grandfather.
joe rogan
Is it harder for clean comics when you're...
I mean, clean meaning not sober?
annie lederman
I have no clue what it's like to be a clean comic.
joe rogan
Back to this conversation again?
No.
But when you go to a bar, like if you're at the comedy store and everyone's drinking...
annie lederman
For me, not one minute.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
annie lederman
Not for one second.
And it's funny.
Sometimes people will be like, is it weird I'm drinking?
And I'm like, you think I would relapse with you?
unidentified
I know.
annie lederman
By the way, if I relapse, I'm like going to throw a party.
We're going to an island.
It'll be fun.
whitney cummings
I've never understood how people can drink so much on stage.
When I see Stan Hope up there with a fucking thing of vodka, I just would just...
joe rogan
Most of the time, Stan Hope drinks Bud Light, though.
whitney cummings
Oh, nice.
annie lederman
So it's like water, yeah.
joe rogan
He drinks light beer, and he drinks it all day.
annie lederman
He's like, I just want to get fat.
He's like, I'm not trying to get drunk, I'm trying to get obese.
joe rogan
He likes to keep a mild buzz all the time.
annie lederman
I never want a mild buzz.
joe rogan
It's not a bad way to go.
Chappelle does that, too, if you notice.
Chappelle will keep a mild buzz.
And there's something about mild buzzes that really accentuate who gives a fuck comedy.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, come on, I don't give a fuck.
annie lederman
Mild buzz, though, is so unattractive.
I was like, let's take a smoke break from my...
I was like, let's black the...
Like, bye, bitch!
I had no interest in being like...
Just a little loopy.
whitney cummings
I never drank wine until the pandemic.
Because I was just fucking bored and trying shit out.
I was like, what's my personality on this and this?
And I was trying to find the best version of my personality.
annie lederman
And it turns out it's rosé seltzer.
whitney cummings
It's white-clawed roofies.
So I was doing definitely ketamine, by the way.
annie lederman
Whitney's been date-raping herself, guys.
She's been putting herself into K-holes and then getting right in that hole.
whitney cummings
I do K and masturbate.
joe rogan
The ketamine is prescribed, though.
whitney cummings
It's prescribed, yeah.
It's like a nasal spray.
joe rogan
You have it here?
whitney cummings
It's in my purse somewhere, yeah.
annie lederman
What's so funny about it is it's a nasal spray, but when I was going to raves and doing it, we also nasally injected.
I mean, they're literally just...
whitney cummings
This is a pretty trace amount.
It's not a lot, and I only do it like a couple times a week.
joe rogan
A couple times a week.
annie lederman
What does it do when you do it?
whitney cummings
Let's do a bunch of ketamine and stab ourselves.
joe rogan
That's got his cooties on it.
It went through his arm.
I don't even think we cleaned it.
whitney cummings
Good.
annie lederman
Did it really go through his arm?
joe rogan
Oh, I pushed it through.
whitney cummings
And then he made you stop for a second?
joe rogan
Yeah, I hit a nerve the first time, then I had to back out and do it again.
I didn't want to do it.
annie lederman
Did the frog live?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, the frog's fine.
annie lederman
He shit the frog out?
joe rogan
He threw it up in my hand.
annie lederman
Do you know that there's a book called Eat That Frog that's about getting your work done in the morning?
It's just funny you literally ate the frog.
joe rogan
Oh, like eat it, just get it over with?
annie lederman
Like get the worst part done?
whitney cummings
Annie and I have swallowed way weirder things, to be honest.
annie lederman
We swallowed a lot, honestly.
joe rogan
That's not even a sharp ice pick.
whitney cummings
Did it make a sound at all?
joe rogan
No, it just was like puncturing a steak.
whitney cummings
And it wasn't, you picked the spot that you stacked.
joe rogan
Well, he kind of pointed me towards his arm, like what area is a better place to go through, but it was bleeding.
annie lederman
Do you think it would taste like elk?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think people taste like pigs.
annie lederman
That's what they say.
joe rogan
Cannibals call people long pigs.
That's literally a nickname.
whitney cummings
Did you notice that Blaine, whenever he would have you do something, he would first doubt himself?
It's almost like a power of suggestion thing where he'd be like, no, no, it might be fake.
Test it out.
It might be fake.
Remember the frog?
It might not be a real frog.
This might be weighted.
joe rogan
You can see it right there.
That's where I'm going through his arm.
annie lederman
Whose hand is that?
joe rogan
That's his hand.
That's his hand.
He's like pushing on the skin.
annie lederman
That is the darkest hand I've ever seen in my life.
joe rogan
He gets tanned.
He's got a lot of money.
whitney cummings
Is there something psychological?
unidentified
It's either you're very poor or you're very rich if you're tan.
whitney cummings
Your face, Joe!
Is there something psychological about him doing that?
Like, touch it.
Maybe it's fake.
Make sure it's not fake.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure it does that with cards.
I don't know anything about magic, but I would imagine anything you could do to overload the brain.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Like, if you're...
whitney cummings
Distract.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're sparring with someone, or fighting, one of the things you're doing is you're trying to overload their brain.
So you're moving, you do things, you faint, you fake like you're gonna punch, then you kick them.
But what you're doing is you're fucking with their heads, you're giving them too many things to think about.
He's kind of doing that, too.
annie lederman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, check the cards out, and he says things, and he kind of doubts himself, and asks you if you're sure.
There's so many techniques involved in it.
But he is a master.
whitney cummings
Amazing.
joe rogan
Him doing that shit...
He had...
He did a card trick with one guy holding one of his wrists and another guy holding another wrist.
He couldn't do anything.
His sleeves were rolled up.
And he did a card trick for us.
annie lederman
So cool.
whitney cummings
I know you're not supposed to say how magic happens, but I don't think that this counts.
But there was this guy that I knew that did that.
annie lederman
You're afraid you're going to get in trouble with the magic castle?
She's like, I'll never go to the magic castle again.
whitney cummings
I'm afraid I'm going to get canceled by magicians.
annie lederman
Jimmy Schubert's going to be so fucking mad at me.
whitney cummings
I don't want magicians coming for me.
But sometimes they carve holes into their hands and Like flaps of skin and that's where they put the coins underneath.
What?
Yeah, they carve little divots in their hands and that's how they hold the coins.
joe rogan
How the fuck can you carve a divot in your skin?
annie lederman
And then you let it heal?
whitney cummings
Yes, it's like scar tissue and that's how they're able to hold the coins.
annie lederman
What?
whitney cummings
Crazy shit.
joe rogan
Come on, really?
whitney cummings
Is there really no way to find out how magicians do their tricks?
joe rogan
Well, you'd have to become a magician.
whitney cummings
You have to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
annie lederman
They let you in.
You gotta get in the club.
whitney cummings
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Blaine was telling me that he has a friend that's a card guy that will literally be playing with his cards 13 hours every day.
Every time he's on the phone with them, he hears...
whitney cummings
They are athletes in a way.
joe rogan
Yes.
That's what I was saying to him.
I was like, the way you move your hands, it's similar to martial arts because when someone's really good at a martial arts move, they have it just, the pathway is just greased and slicked in their neurons and when they do it, it just goes.
And that was kind of him with his hands.
I was watching him move the cards around and I was like, whoa.
Like someone who plays guitar really good.
There's something about it.
Or piano.
It's fascinating.
annie lederman
Have you seen Kyle Dunnegan's joke about where he's like, I'm not good at magic but I have good magician hands and he's like...
joe rogan
Have you seen Time Canceller?
Have you ever seen this new thing?
Oh my god.
He goes back in time to cancel people from the past.
He says a tweet, he says like a mildly racist tweet like, is it just me or does Indian food smell funny?
And then he has to throw himself into a wood chipper.
And so a team of incredibly diverse women scientists rebuild him and they put him back together again like the six million dollar man out of the wood chipper and then they turn him into a much more woke version of himself who's a time-canceller.
So he's part machine and he goes back in time and cancels people.
annie lederman
Oh my god, that's so funny.
joe rogan
It's fucking hilarious.
It's so funny.
whitney cummings
Dude, I miss everyone.
annie lederman
I do too.
I know, it sucks, dude.
whitney cummings
It's weird to think that we saw each other every night.
unidentified
I know.
whitney cummings
Every night for 15 years.
joe rogan
And just talking shit, having fun and then boom, it stops.
annie lederman
So weird.
whitney cummings
It's like a family being broken up.
joe rogan
I don't think it should have stopped.
I really don't.
I don't.
You know, I think people should be able to make their own decisions.
annie lederman
Well, I think that there's ways to do it.
We could do the weird social distance things, you know, where it could either be outside or it could be, you know, people are far back and spread out wearing masks.
whitney cummings
It makes no sense that people are allowed to go outside, have socially distanced meals, but as soon as someone stands up with a microphone and starts talking...
annie lederman
It is a spitty job, though.
I was watching you when they changed the lights in the main room right before everything shut down and the lights were dark.
I was watching you from the side.
I've never seen so much spit.
It's like when the Sprinkler's kids jump through.
whitney cummings
Droplet after droplet after droplet.
annie lederman
We're all Gallagher, it turns out.
And I was like, holy shit.
- Holy shit, and then I was thinking that, and then I went, oh my God, when I got shut down, we really do deserve, I mean, I think we might deserve this. - We've been spreading COVID. - Also, we're spitting into mics, and then, I've made out with Tim Dillon, pretty much. - I've gotten the flu a couple of times from people's microphones.
joe rogan
One time I did a gig with Tommy and Tommy was sick as fuck.
We're in San Francisco and we all got the flu because we shared a microphone together.
annie lederman
Davidson?
joe rogan
No, Segura.
whitney cummings
I started bringing a microphone with me on the road like a year ago because I kept getting fucking bronchitis from, you know.
joe rogan
You get bronchitis from a mic?
annie lederman
That's good for your own mic.
whitney cummings
Yes, that's a good idea.
And I was like, my opener, everyone thought I was such an asshole and being a diva, but I was just like, dude, I can't get sick.
I did like 40 cities before I shot a special and it was so worth it.
annie lederman
I think that, I do think there's a lot of things that are happening in this that could carry over.
Like, I know you think a master for pussies or whatever, but I like that.
joe rogan
I don't think master for pussies.
annie lederman
There was a burr clip that went viral.
joe rogan
That was me trying to talk him into talking shit.
annie lederman
It was the funniest.
It was very funny.
joe rogan
I was like, come on, you believe in that?
I wear a bandana.
I have it everywhere.
annie lederman
I want to get a cool one.
I'm trying to think.
Oh, wait, can I show you the masks that I'm making?
whitney cummings
Yes.
annie lederman
Jay Leno would not approve of these.
whitney cummings
I was thinking about doing a joke.
Remember when all the prisoners were released?
unidentified
Is that you?
annie lederman
Oh, Annie!
unidentified
Isn't that funny?
annie lederman
Do you think people buy it?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, they'll buy it.
Where can they buy it?
annie lederman
Well, go to my website.
I'm gonna launch them.
I'm launching them this week.
joe rogan
You gotta do it immediately, otherwise people are gonna jump on this before you.
annie lederman
I'm launching it today.
When I leave, I will.
joe rogan
Because the problem is, when this goes up, these fucks, they'll start putting it up before you.
annie lederman
Well, I'm launching it today.
That's the Annie Letterman thing.
If anyone does it, Joe Rogan's gonna fucking sue you, okay?
He's going to get another $100 million suing your ass for me.
joe rogan
There's so many people selling bootleg shit online right now.
annie lederman
Isn't that funny, though?
joe rogan
It's bootleg everything.
whitney cummings
Fake Purell, all that shit.
joe rogan
Well, bootleg shirts, there's a lot of my shirts that are bootleg, a lot of mugs and stuff that are bootleg, all these different things that have nothing to do with me with my face on it.
annie lederman
Guys, this is sponsored by the Joe Rogan Podcast Experience.
joe rogan
That's a Yeti Tumblr.
annie lederman
Yeti Tumblr?
joe rogan
Yes.
It's legit.
It's very legit.
annie lederman
Everything's Yeti involved with you.
Every time I'm at the comedy store and we're talking, it somehow turns into you fighting bears.
I swear to God, every conversation, we could be talking about fucking anything, and then it's like three minutes in, once you walk in, I'm like, and we're fighting bears again.
Okay.
joe rogan
I have a real problem.
annie lederman
We gotta get you a bear.
joe rogan
No, I don't want to have anything to do with bears.
I'm scared of nature.
whitney cummings
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
annie lederman
That's why you kill it?
joe rogan
Well, no.
whitney cummings
I kill it to eat it.
Do you run with a taser?
I run with a little taser now.
joe rogan
I carry a big knife.
annie lederman
Please don't run with a knife.
I've seen you play basketball.
whitney cummings
I have a little taser.
joe rogan
Taser's not a bad idea, but I don't know if that'll work on an animal.
annie lederman
I carry nunchucks.
Paperweights that fit on your knuckles.
joe rogan
You carry that little taser around with you?
whitney cummings
This whole thing with me.
Yeah, I put it in my fanny pack.
joe rogan
Have you ever tased yourself to see what it feels like?
unidentified
No, I haven't.
annie lederman
I want to do it.
whitney cummings
Should we?
We have got to get more views than David Blaine.
unidentified
What if Annie dies?
What if Annie dies?
joe rogan
What if it just turns out that that's her Achilles heel?
She just falls over.
I'm like, she had so much promise.
annie lederman
I've been having a good week, so this is a good week to die.
whitney cummings
For someone that used to drink Jaeger, this is going to be fucking nothing.
joe rogan
So that's your thing?
So when a mountain lion comes after you, you just fucking knuckle punch them with that thing?
annie lederman
She has to protect her dogs from you.
unidentified
Wow.
whitney cummings
It has to heat up.
annie lederman
They look like elk.
They're big.
whitney cummings
And then I have that little hammer in my car.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
It has to heat up.
whitney cummings
Does it have to heat up?
I know I'm dead.
joe rogan
What?
Are you serious?
whitney cummings
Hey, hold on, Bear.
Can you just hold on?
I need to heat up my taser.
unidentified
Just stay there.
annie lederman
And we're talking about Bear Grill or whatever that guy's name is.
joe rogan
We're not talking about large, overweight gay men.
annie lederman
Don't.
unidentified
Oh, God!
annie lederman
No, you didn't.
joe rogan
Did you just touch that?
Oh, my God.
annie lederman
That's not real.
whitney cummings
I thought that it wasn't working.
It wasn't that bad.
It's really not that bad.
unidentified
It's not that bad.
annie lederman
I've done my dog collars.
joe rogan
The bear's gonna also agree that it's not that bad, but it's got I touch one little one and it's a lot of them Most likely if a mountain lion even if you have a knife if a mountain lion gets you you're fucked They're just too strong.
whitney cummings
Yeah, and they'll go straight for your face.
joe rogan
You want a fighting chance You want to just be able to sink something into their neck I watch The Covenant every day.
annie lederman
I go...
joe rogan
The Covenant?
annie lederman
Is that what it was called?
unidentified
The Revenant.
annie lederman
The Revenant.
unidentified
I was like, what?
annie lederman
I gotta go, tase me, quick.
I need to come back from this.
joe rogan
You know, it's kind of based on a real story.
annie lederman
It is?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a little fucked up.
I mean, they switched a lot of shit around and changed some things, but it's kind of based on a real story.
annie lederman
That scene was so brutal.
whitney cummings
They were all brutal.
That was the only movie I had to take breaks from while I was watching it.
When his kid was dying and he couldn't get up and save his kid, that just destroyed me.
annie lederman
You are so nice.
It's so funny how nice you are.
When Joey fell, I always tell this story, Joey fell and hurt his knee at the Comedy Store one night, and Whitney was with him.
He ended up being alright, but he just tripped or whatever.
We're not going to sue you, Comedy Store.
But he was sitting on a rolling chair, and Whitney was like, and I rushed over and I went, Whitney, are you okay?
whitney cummings
I was destroyed.
No, Joey walked into the kitchen.
You know right when you walk into the kitchen?
annie lederman
It's just slippy.
unidentified
It's always greasy.
whitney cummings
Something from the air fryer or something.
I don't know what it is.
It's so oily right there.
joe rogan
How many fucking orders of fries come flying through that?
I mean, that's all anybody buys is fries and chicken wings.
It's all that oil.
whitney cummings
It's like a thick smegma on the ground.
You can feel it.
annie lederman
You always catch me eating the worst food.
I'm always like shoving my face and then Rogan walks in and I'm like...
whitney cummings
Just like deep throating those pretzels.
annie lederman
The nuts, just everything I'm eating.
joe rogan
Nuts are good.
whitney cummings
Joey's in front of me and we're going through the side, right?
Joey's in front of me.
I just see him go down and my brain just went, Joey had a heart attack.
Joey had a fucking heart attack.
He goes down, his leg went behind him.
It was some crazy shit where he did like a split and we couldn't figure out what even happened and he tore, didn't he?
annie lederman
He tore something near his ankle.
whitney cummings
Something like that.
Not his ACL, but something.
It was bad.
He couldn't walk.
He couldn't get up.
And if you were having a stroke or a heart attack, you don't know you're having it.
So he kept saying, like, I fell on my knee, I fell on my knee, and I was just so worried that he had a stroke.
joe rogan
Remember Jay Leno was telling us that story about Rodney?
annie lederman
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So he's hosting The Tonight Show.
Rodney does a set, and he's like, something's off.
He's like, call the paramedics.
annie lederman
Yeah, his rhythm and his timing was off.
joe rogan
And he was joking around, kind of, but he also knew that something really was wrong, so they called the paramedics, they checked Ronnie, he did have a fucking stroke.
So he had a stroke while he was out there doing stand-up, which is crazy.
annie lederman
It's insane.
whitney cummings
Didn't someone die on stage doing stand-up?
annie lederman
Two people have, there was a British guy, I don't know his name, who had a heart attack on stage, and then there was years ago, Jim Norton had posted a clip of it, there's a clip of it, it was a live kind of variety show, and there was this guy, I can't remember his name, I wish I remembered it, but he, um, He was doing a bit in front of a curtain and live television, and he passes out and falls out, and they're all laughing, thinking it's part of the bit, and then you see them drag him out.
But it's kind of a good way to go.
whitney cummings
This guy?
Oh, Jesus.
Where was this?
joe rogan
Is that right there?
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Oh, that's how he really died?
whitney cummings
Was it a heart attack?
annie lederman
Yeah, I think you died of a heart attack.
joe rogan
Isn't that fucked up?
annie lederman
Don't grab your heart while we do this.
That's my titty.
That's my titty.
joe rogan
My heart's right here.
annie lederman
Dude, I always think I was telling Whitney about this when you were like flexing your pecs or something in the kitchen of the comedy store and I was like, I want to try it.
And you're like, ew, put your tits away.
whitney cummings
It is so funny because so many people want to go female comics, male comics.
I feel like we're together, we're so weirdly genderless.
We're like brother and sister.
joe rogan
We were talking about that the other night.
It's a real meritocracy.
If you're funny, you're one of the Klan, and that's really all it is.
I get that it's upsetting for people on the outside.
annie lederman
Yes, you're not in the club.
That sucks.
joe rogan
A friend of mine who is a philosopher, a very smart guy, tried to explain it to me, and he's just completely independent of this.
He's like, you guys have to understand that you're little, and he's not a comic at all, he's like, this little group of people is like a walled garden.
So there's a lot of people on the outside of it that see you guys having so much fun and doing all these things together and having each other on each other's podcasts.
There's just an automatic feeling in human nature to feel like you're alienated from that group.
So that group somehow or another disrespects you.
That group is negative or bad or mean or this or that.
And then it compounds.
Find whatever the group is.
Whatever your identity politics is.
If it's a right wing thing or a girl thing or a gay thing or a boy thing.
whitney cummings
Sports.
Yeah, whatever it is.
joe rogan
They find a thing that makes you different from them and you negative and then positive and you're a suppressor or you're a bad person.
annie lederman
Well, it's the outward locus of control, right?
So it's like I'm saying that my life is where I don't want to be because you made me feel this way or you did this.
It's not like...
Because if you think about it, anyone complaining about their place in comedy, it's like, that's time to write jokes.
The time that you're focusing on why you don't have a thing, you have no clue what anyone's story is.
You don't know if it was easy or hard for them.
But it is a hard job.
It's not a comfortable job.
joe rogan
Some of the people complaining have had specials.
So you've had a chance.
You got on Comedy Central, you got on Netflix, you got somewhere, and people didn't respond.
And that's not because the comedy store is filled with assholes.
That's not what that is.
It's a fucking hard thing.
Comedy's a hard thing.
whitney cummings
It's hard, and honestly, the harder the hallways are, the easier it is on stage.
So I was always so grateful when people...
annie lederman
It's fun, too.
joe rogan
It's fun.
You go on stage laughing at some shit someone just made fun of you about.
annie lederman
You try to one-up each other.
That's why Attell is the most fun person to hang out with, because he's so, like...
It never ends.
unidentified
He just shows up with a fucking plastic bag of his shit.
annie lederman
His 7-Eleven purse.
joe rogan
He's got a small garbage bag he brings with him.
annie lederman
He's a wire hanging out.
whitney cummings
One of the greatest comics who ever lived.
That's what I love about comics.
No matter how great, if you're a real fucking comedy story comic, you're still just who you are forever.
If you stay with your tribe.
joe rogan
We're lucky as fuck.
We're really, really lucky.
It's weird now.
You know, like that night when we were all hanging out doing the Comedy Store documentary, it was so much fun.
But it also was bittersweet because I left, when I was driving home, I was real emotional.
annie lederman
Do you remember I kept gripping you and going, don't go?
I was like, no!
I'd be in a conversation over here.
I wasn't a K-hole.
I was overdosed in a fucking K-hole.
Whitney's like, it's mental.
I'm like, I'm a cloud, bitch.
My body is a cloud.
That's not mental.
whitney cummings
There's going to be an expose on Whitney Cummings' drugging female comics.
I'm actually the pervious person in comedy.
joe rogan
Listen, that was the only time in this whole COVID period that I thought maybe I shouldn't go.
It was the only time.
I was hanging out with you guys.
It was fun.
But I'm still going.
unidentified
Damn it.
joe rogan
I was thinking, this is so rare.
How many grown adults, once you get to a certain age, you're in your 30s, you're with your friends, you don't have that kind of a life where you can go and be with your peers.
It's just so rare.
unidentified
It's the funhouse.
joe rogan
And the store is so unusual because people that go on the road, okay?
If you go on the road all the time, it's just you and the people you go on the road with.
You don't get to converge at a home base.
And that's what the store is.
That's what's so different.
Because you'll be one place, you'll be someplace, and I'll be that.
And then we see each other on Tuesday, like, ah!
annie lederman
Yeah, it's like home base.
whitney cummings
Like no time had passed.
annie lederman
I'm there, guys, by the way.
I'm there the whole time.
I'm working in the kitchen serving those chicken wings.
whitney cummings
There's something so crazy about this moment because it's also like I've never felt more loved and accepted than I had in a comedy store.
I never felt like myself.
I never felt accepted.
I always felt like I was walking on eggshells.
I didn't know who I was.
annie lederman
It's so weird you feel that comfortable.
We hate you.
We don't like you, Whitney.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's catty daddy.
unidentified
Whitney!
whitney cummings
It's so true.
I didn't think you liked me for the longest time.
annie lederman
Oh, we should finish that funny story.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, we should finish that story.
annie lederman
So I do the roast battle.
Whitney's one of the judges.
And Whitney was already pissed about something.
whitney cummings
Well, because everyone was attacking my shiny-ass face and saying that I had plastic surgery and all this shit.
annie lederman
But do you have a new product coming out?
whitney cummings
But I do.
I am launching a line of face oil.
annie lederman
Isn't that so funny?
Isn't that the perfect thing?
joe rogan
It's called my shiny face.
whitney cummings
My shiny-ass fucking face.
It's KY Jelly.
annie lederman
But, um, yeah, you can also fuck, yeah.
joe rogan
You can fuck my nose hole.
annie lederman
So she, okay, so Whitney was, like, she was, like, giving her assessment of my set or whatever, and she's, like, she goes, she goes, I just feel like you need to smile more, and I was, like, I was, like, smile more?
I was, like, what is this in the streets?
Like, I was, like, and I was, like, in a hyper, like, fight mode, and I was, like, smile more?
I was just, like.
joe rogan
Whoa, Streets of Albuquerque came out.
annie lederman
Streets of fucking Santa Fe.
No, Philly.
Suburbs of Philly first.
But Whitney, you texted me the next day.
You're like, hey, it's Whitney Cummings.
I'm sorry if I offended you.
I was at the mall.
I was like, Whitney.
I was like, can I take a break?
I was working at Hot Topic.
And I was like, a famous person's texting me.
No, but you texted me and it was so sweet.
whitney cummings
I was like, please don't cancel me.
Please don't talk to a reporter.
annie lederman
No, but it was very nice.
And then I just texted you back and I was like, yeah, I just...
And I went, when you were judging, I went, Whitney, I was molested, I don't smile, and you were like, we were all molested!
whitney cummings
And then I was worried that I was, like, silencing her because she was like, sorry, Whitney, I'm molested.
annie lederman
Whitney, the text from you are so funny.
This is what I love about you.
One time we were talking in the back at the, we were in the green room and in the main room and you go, we're talking about rape or something.
And you go, and you go, you go, you go, I'm sorry, I'm not listening to anything you're saying.
I'm just thinking about whether my face is shiny.
I'm like, it is.
You know the answer, bitch.
And then you text me the next day or you call me and you're like, I'm so sorry, were you talking about being raped?
And I started talking about my face.
You come to a complete circle.
You're always working whatever step that is.
Whatever fucking step that is, you're always working it.
So no problems there.
But I accidentally, I was looking at the thing you had texted me and I said something.
I accidentally sent a voice memo to you.
Talking shit on another female comedian.
Like, trashing a female comedian.
And it sent the voice, like, my finger hit, and I was so embarrassed.
whitney cummings
You sent it to me.
annie lederman
Talking shit on another, but you wouldn't have thought it was about you.
I said her name and everything, but it was just, like, so crazy that I was then voice memoing you being, like, this fucking bitch.
And then, um...
joe rogan
Voice memos are odd.
Because it's, like, I don't have voicemail.
Like, if you call me voicemail, it just goes to fuck you.
It just, like, goes to the ether.
annie lederman
Do you have voice female?
joe rogan
But voice memos.
annie lederman
It's a callback to the other night.
It's a callback to the other night.
whitney cummings
Tweet it.
joe rogan
Anyway.
But those voice memos that people send, they're odd because you have to listen.
It's like if you send me a text, I can go 830. Got it.
annie lederman
Well, Spade always does the voice memos.
I think it's because he doesn't want to put his readers on.
unidentified
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Well, it's also when you send someone a voice memo and then you see that they kept it, you're like, why the fuck do you keep that?
joe rogan
Oh, you could tell if someone keeps it?
whitney cummings
Yes, it says kept or saved.
annie lederman
That was the cutest.
You just went, yes!
That was cute.
I'm sexy.
Listen, experiment with it.
joe rogan
It's kind of Mission Impossible that it disappear.
I like that they go away.
annie lederman
It's fun.
I think it's more bond, trauma bond.
whitney cummings
I will say, though, when you go, I feel like our text chains, like comedians' text chains, if they ever get out, we're all going to get canceled.
joe rogan
There's one time I was like, we should all delete these.
There was one where we got so ridiculous.
whitney cummings
But you've also got too famous.
I'm like, you guys, we can't text Joe certain shit.
annie lederman
No, I think he's gotten overly famous to the point where we can again.
Oh, yeah!
whitney cummings
He's uncancellable!
annie lederman
He's gone past it!
Now it's like, yes!
whitney cummings
Because there are times where I want to send something and I'm like, I don't know, Joe's on this chain.
I feel like he's just too famous for this.
joe rogan
You should see the shit Segura sends me.
whitney cummings
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
I played it yesterday for Nikki Glaser.
It's this girl fisting herself, but in the most preposterous way where you're like, what?
annie lederman
Well, is there a way that's not preposterous?
joe rogan
No, no, no, this is a different thing.
whitney cummings
Is fisting real?
joe rogan
Oh, I'll show you.
whitney cummings
But you know what it is?
annie lederman
It's this.
That's right, that's right.
whitney cummings
It's putting all your fingers together.
It's not like a punch.
annie lederman
You go in.
Jamie, you've been fisted.
Tell us.
joe rogan
Here you go.
unidentified
I'm sending your reactions for this video.
annie lederman
Wait, hold on, hold on.
joe rogan
Your face!
Hold on, hold on.
annie lederman
Oh my god, it's me.
unidentified
Oh no!
whitney cummings
This girl...
unidentified
Oh no!
annie lederman
Just stole your act, Annie.
Just stole my fisting act.
joe rogan
Preposterous is the right word, right?
annie lederman
Well, it's gotta hurt.
Why are you punching yourself?
She's like a bruised cervix.
joe rogan
I don't think it is, but...
annie lederman
A bruised-ass cervix.
joe rogan
Anything that's fucked up like that, Tom Segar will send it to me.
annie lederman
It looks like the opposite of having a baby.
whitney cummings
I know!
You guys send me the most fucked up shit and I'm like, I'm so going to jail for this.
joe rogan
But you're not.
I think that's legal.
I'm pretty sure that's legal.
annie lederman
No, it's not.
You don't actually...
We have to be very clear.
You don't actually get things that could send you to jail.
joe rogan
You know, but here's the thing.
annie lederman
We're kidding!
joe rogan
Florida has some wacky laws with that stuff.
That's why they prosecuted certain like pornographers because they decided that it was, you know, that's why they prosecuted the two live crew.
Like it's like Broward County, Florida.
Like they go after people.
What is that?
There was one guy was a really famous case and it really opened up a lot of people's eyes in terms of pornography.
There was this guy who was like known to be like ultra disgusting.
Like the stuff that he did was like super abusive and like he would open up girls assholes like with a speculum and then piss inside of them and like crazy.
annie lederman
It kinda sounds like it would feel good.
If I'm being real, it's like warm.
whitney cummings
Which is wrong.
joe rogan
Depends on how much beer he had.
unidentified
It's wrong.
joe rogan
Max Hardcore.
Yeah, so that guy.
So he was found guilty on 20 counts of obscenity by a Tampa, Florida jury.
And so they decide what's obscene and what's not obscene.
It's like they can make a distinction between regular pornography and what they decide is obscenity and violates the law.
So they put him in fucking jail.
annie lederman
Jesus, I'm like, just...
joe rogan
So I don't know if there was...
You see, that's the thing.
If you're doing that kind of shit, are you making people sign releases?
Do they know that you're going to do that kind of shit?
annie lederman
Are they going to arrest the girl that's punching her fist into her pussy too?
Which, by the way, I feel like she could get out of jail.
She could slide through.
She could punch and then slide through the...
whitney cummings
She would kill it in jail.
joe rogan
She'd be fine.
But then the other perspective is, okay, what if this is your 18-year-old daughter who gets off of a Greyhound bus and meets this guy, and she has no idea what she's about to do, and she thinks she's going to do just like a sex movie, and this guy's pissing in her eyeballs and punching her in the face.
There was all kinds of...
I don't know if he punched her, but you know what I mean.
annie lederman
Is that what the pee tapes are going to be?
joe rogan
Do you think the pee tapes are real?
annie lederman
I just don't care.
whitney cummings
Have you ever had a guy try to pee on you?
annie lederman
No, but I had like one guy that I was like, it was like the guy that we weren't, we were just going to like do the things that we'd never done.
And we just ended up not liking each other so we didn't bang again.
But I was like, I would let you pee on me.
whitney cummings
Do the things you've never done, what?
Like kiss on the mouth?
annie lederman
Yeah.
Make eye contact.
He said I love you into my face.
whitney cummings
Like tell the truth.
Programmed each other's numbers into our phones.
I had a guy pee on me once.
He really wanted to pee on me, and I was like, fine.
And I started dying laughing.
joe rogan
Were you guys in the bathroom or in the bed?
whitney cummings
It was in the shower.
annie lederman
Oh, I've been peeing on in the shower.
You pee on people.
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
That's funny, though.
whitney cummings
But he was trying to get on my face.
It was supposed to be sexual.
It was supposed to be sexual.
annie lederman
But then the sheen from your face just slipped it off.
He ricocheted back on him.
unidentified
He was blinded by the mirror that is my forehead.
joe rogan
You know how when water gets on Vaseline, it just beats up?
whitney cummings
I damaged his retina from my lewd up face.
And as soon as it started, I could not stop laughing and I ruined the moment.
joe rogan
That's so ridiculous.
Ruin the moment?
You made the moment.
That's the only thing good about that moment was you laughing at him.
There's no ruining that.
He's pissing in your face.
annie lederman
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Just the fact that he wants to do it.
The best way out is you making fun of him.
whitney cummings
And I can't tell if guys are doing it because they've seen it in porn or they're actually into it.
annie lederman
It's got to be like a pheromone thing or something.
So why do they want to pee on us?
Don't they want us to pee on them?
whitney cummings
Coming on the face, guys really want to do it.
I think it's like a humiliation thing.
They want to degrade you.
joe rogan
I think they want you to like it.
whitney cummings
Interesting.
joe rogan
They want you to want them to do it.
You're so over the top, crazy sexual.
I think that's why it exists in porn.
The humiliation thing, maybe sometimes.
Maybe sometimes, but I think not always.
I don't think it's just that.
I think it's like a, wow!
annie lederman
I hate it.
I don't hate it, but then once it happens, you're like, this is like...
whitney cummings
Here's my thing.
If you're gonna come on my face, you better not miss.
annie lederman
Don't get my hair.
Do not make me wash my hair again.
whitney cummings
No, you better not embarrass yourself.
I don't want to have to bob and weave to catch it.
joe rogan
Like a dog with a treat.
annie lederman
I'm Marshall all of a sudden.
whitney cummings
It's just weird when it's like not enough and it's disappointing and I have to pretend like it's more than enough.
annie lederman
Dudes definitely jizz and have their dogs catch it.
That is gross.
I just thought it and I know it's gotta be.
joe rogan
For sure, somebody.
annie lederman
Somebody's done that.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny that the amount of load is important?
whitney cummings
Well, I used to, the same person that told me you can't recognize yourself on the street.
annie lederman
It's David Blaine, by the way.
It was a magic trick.
whitney cummings
No, but I used to hear these women, there was like a show on VH1, these like rock stars wives who would always make their husbands who were like touring on the road come outside of them when they first came home to make sure they weren't cheating because they thought they'd have- They wanted to see how much cum there was?
How much cum they had, but that's not how it works.
unidentified
Is that science?
That's hilarious.
annie lederman
I like that.
That is so hilarious.
If you want to see how much your husband jerks off, you should always leave the Build-A-Tan lotion.
Put it in a lotion bottle and you can see how dark it is.
joe rogan
Those are rookies.
Who uses the lotion?
If you really need that, then you really shouldn't be jerking off.
annie lederman
I'm sure you have some sort of...
joe rogan
There's jerking off when it's a compulsion and you need lubes and you need to stick a vibrator up your ass.
And there's jerking off because you're actually horny.
annie lederman
I didn't know about this vibrator up the ass thing.
joe rogan
Well, you don't go online.
whitney cummings
I have a taser.
annie lederman
I can use the taser.
You taser my pussy!
joe rogan
Right when you're about to go...
Just imagine if that...
Because, you know, they do that to mules, actually.
annie lederman
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, when they want to extract sperm from them, they actually stick a cattle prod up their asshole and they just shoot.
annie lederman
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
I know that because of Fear Factor.
whitney cummings
That's someone's job.
joe rogan
No, because of Fear Factor.
We made people drink Donkey Kong.
annie lederman
Did you ever drink the bad stuff?
Did you ever taste it?
joe rogan
I didn't drink that, but I ate a bunch of things.
I ate a cockroach, a Madagascar, giant hissing cockroach.
I ate a tomato hole.
annie lederman
And it popped in your mouth?
joe rogan
Oh, it destroyed.
It just was all chewy.
annie lederman
Did it taste good at all?
joe rogan
No, but it didn't taste bad.
whitney cummings
Is it alive?
joe rogan
It's a mindfuck, yeah.
It's a mindfuck.
It doesn't taste bad.
It's almost like tasteless.
No big deal.
whitney cummings
The legs are what get me.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's basically a lobster.
A lobster is a bug.
It's not much different.
It really isn't.
It's all just in your head.
whitney cummings
It's psychological because we think of cockroaches as just being...
annie lederman
I cooked a lobster the other day and I felt so bad.
I was holding it.
I was trying to take a picture and I dropped it.
And then when I picked it up, it was...
Foaming and shitting and pissing.
I murdered it before I murdered it.
joe rogan
This is how Fear Factor got canceled.
They had to play horseshoes and either they drunk a giant glass of donkey cum or a giant glass of donkey piss.
It's interesting.
All the men wanted to drink the donkey piss.
The girls wanted to drink the cum.
Yeah, we're used to that.
annie lederman
They actually thought it was easier.
whitney cummings
That's not a big deal.
annie lederman
This goes right down.
joe rogan
I know, but I thought it was stunning.
annie lederman
Protein?
joe rogan
These girls were drinking giant beer steins of cum.
whitney cummings
I'm going to puke.
annie lederman
The belly button rings are so funny.
joe rogan
And I had to talk them into it, so I'm talking them through this while they're doing it.
This is where it got the show canceled.
whitney cummings
But were the ratings bananas?
joe rogan
No, they never made it on the air because TMZ got a hold of this and TMZ posted like someone from the...
There's two times where I told them don't do it, the people that were running the show.
One time was they were bull riding and they were like, don't worry, it's stunt bulls.
I go, that bull does not know it's a stunt bull.
That's a fucking bull, man.
I saw the animal that these people got on, and one of them was a girl.
She was like 95 pounds.
And that fucking bull launched her through the air like she didn't exist.
Like a pillow.
annie lederman
That sucks that I'm mad at her for being 95 pounds.
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