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May 26, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1481 - Adam Eget
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adam eget
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joe rogan
01:42:46
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Duh!
Adam, motherfucking egot.
How are you, buddy?
unidentified
How are you, brother?
joe rogan
Good to see you, my friend.
adam eget
Good to see you.
Thanks for having me on.
joe rogan
Please.
I'm excited to see you.
adam eget
Dude, I haven't seen anybody.
joe rogan
I know.
It's like you're a long-lost friend.
adam eget
It feels that way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
But it also feels like you're literally the only person I've seen.
joe rogan
Oh, you haven't left the house?
adam eget
Not much.
I go out on daily walks.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
That's not good for the mental health.
adam eget
It's not good at all.
joe rogan
How are you feeling?
You all right?
adam eget
Yeah, I'm okay.
I'm watching a lot of Korean baseball.
joe rogan
Why Korean baseball?
adam eget
Because it's the only live sport available.
joe rogan
Oh, they're playing in Korea already.
adam eget
Oh, it's wild.
The stadiums are empty, but they have cardboard cutouts.
joe rogan
Oh, no, they don't.
adam eget
They have cheerleaders with masks and DJs.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
adam eget
But it's great.
It's fun.
joe rogan
That's so weird.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they use cardboard cutouts in the audience?
Yeah.
adam eget
Just in like the front where the cameras are behind home plate.
joe rogan
Oh, that's too strange.
adam eget
Oh, it's hilarious.
joe rogan
I think I saw that in a movie once.
There was a baseball movie and you could clearly see that there was cutouts.
Because have you ever seen what happens when they take old movies and then they port them over to like Blu-ray?
adam eget
No.
joe rogan
Ugh.
One of the best example is Aliens, the second...
adam eget
That's my favorite action movie of all time.
joe rogan
It's a great fucking movie.
I don't think it's as good a horror movie as the original one.
adam eget
No, it's not a horror movie.
joe rogan
Because the first one's a horror movie.
Yeah, it's James Cameron.
It's just fucking guns blazing.
adam eget
It doesn't stop.
joe rogan
It never stops.
adam eget
It's the most adrenaline-fueled movie I've ever seen from beginning in.
It just keeps progressively getting more intense and more intense.
joe rogan
And you know what's great about those movies?
The hero is a woman and no one gives a fuck because they're so good.
There's no like, oh yeah, it's a diverse movie.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
It's amazing for women.
adam eget
It's not Captain Marvel.
joe rogan
It's a big moment for women.
No.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, it's just Sigourney Weaver being a fucking badass fighting the most evil monster movies have ever created.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
adam eget
That's the best.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love that kind of gender equality.
When it's just equal because it's awesome and nobody even brings it up.
adam eget
Exactly.
Linda Hamilton in Trominator 2. It's like, are you fucking kidding me?
You don't need to bring it up.
unidentified
She's doing the chin up.
joe rogan
You see her fucking back.
adam eget
Just intense.
unidentified
She's like, I'm gonna fucking kill you.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
Do you watch Ozark?
adam eget
No.
I watched the first four episodes and then I didn't get back into Ozark.
joe rogan
The two scariest bitches are women.
The two scariest ladies in the show.
The two scariest people in the show are two women.
adam eget
Not Laura Linney.
joe rogan
No.
No, but she's fucking great, too.
adam eget
She's great in everything she's done.
unidentified
She's kind of scary, too.
adam eget
Oh, is she?
joe rogan
She's kind of scary, too.
The decisions they're willing to make.
adam eget
That's funny.
joe rogan
Here's Linda Hamilton doing shit up fucking rough.
This is pre-CrossFit, bitches.
There was no CrossFit back then.
She was a goddamn pioneer.
She's like, I'm not gonna fucking die.
adam eget
In the first one, I had a huge crush on her, and in the second one, she terrified me.
She was so fucking awesome.
joe rogan
She's fierce.
Well, she became more fierce, right?
She adapted to the world of the Terminators, which doesn't seem that far off from where we're at right now.
unidentified
Not at all.
joe rogan
We're like closing in on Terminator time.
adam eget
Oh, definitely.
joe rogan
Dude, there's a fucking article I was reading today about a bionic eye that will be available in five years that will be superior to a biological eye.
adam eget
That's insane.
joe rogan
Insane.
Within five years.
And I was going to send it to Michael Bisping.
adam eget
Yeah, that's like, how do they even make Black Mirror anymore?
We're already surpassed it.
joe rogan
That's what the Black Mirror guy said.
He's like, I'm not even doing the season.
I can't do it.
The world's too absurd.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
But my friend Michael Bisping, he's a former UFC middleweight champion.
adam eget
Yeah, he's from like Manchester or something?
Yes, exactly.
joe rogan
His one eye is super fucked up.
He's had several detached retinas to the point where it's basically blind.
He barely can see anything out of one eye.
adam eget
From fighting?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm, from fighting.
He's a beast.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bionic eye could offer perfect sight, night vision, within five years.
Motherfucker!
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
This is how they're going to get us, man.
Between Elon Musk and these eyeball people, you're going to be half human.
Half human in five years.
This is five years, because five fucking years from now, they're going to have a human eye that you could...
Like, if you lose your eye, like Dan Crenshaw, he's going to be the first president with a bionic eye.
He's going to have a bionic eye.
He's going to have a fucking artificial...
Super high.
adam eget
That's insane.
Wait, what happened with the cardboard cutouts?
You said when they transferred to Blu-ray.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's marijuana talking for you.
adam eget
We went from Korean baseball to Bionic Eye in like two minutes.
joe rogan
So this is the cutouts.
They're showing us the cutouts in Korean baseball.
adam eget
Oh wait, in soccer they got in trouble because they used the sex dolls.
joe rogan
Oh, that's not good.
First of all, if this is in America, everybody would be triggered, because it's all white, lettering on red.
Like, no!
MAGA! They're MAGA-ing!
adam eget
Oh yeah, robot drummers.
It's intense.
It's wild.
It's like the XFL, but baseball in Korea.
joe rogan
Seems very strange.
adam eget
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
So anyway, I watched Aliens on Blu-ray, and it's so terrible.
adam eget
Why?
joe rogan
Not the movie itself, but there's one scene where the spaceship is in the foreground and in the background is supposed to be like, you know, some space type shit.
adam eget
Sure.
joe rogan
It looks so bad because it was just a painting.
adam eget
Right, it's a matte painting.
joe rogan
Yeah, and because the way they were focusing, you barely could see it, so it was fine in the film when he was watching it in low def on his monitors.
He's like, perfect, looks great.
But in high def it looks so fake.
adam eget
That makes so much sense.
They created it based on the technology available at the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, you shouldn't watch those movies enhanced.
They should just keep them at the original resolution.
It's really kind of stupid to do that because there's stuff they made decisions, man.
Back when special effects weren't the same thing.
They made decisions.
adam eget
Exactly.
joe rogan
And they were good decisions.
adam eget
Yeah, it's hard to watch some of those in high def.
joe rogan
You're like ruining the movie.
adam eget
Yeah, it takes you out of the whole thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does.
Also, there's something about when they colorize Gone with the Wind stuff.
adam eget
Like, hey.
What are you doing?
joe rogan
You're not supposed to do that.
adam eget
I know.
joe rogan
You don't have to.
adam eget
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Like, colorize Schindler's List.
It's like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like you forgot what color a dress is.
You forgot what a red dress looks like.
Bitch, I know what a dress looks like.
This is a time capsule.
Right?
That movie's a time capsule.
adam eget
Exactly.
joe rogan
Twilight Zone.
adam eget
Twilight Zone's my favorite television show of all time.
I've seen every episode at least five times.
joe rogan
I would agree with you, and specifically because of the fact that it came first, but I put Black Mirror in that league.
adam eget
Black Mirror was so good.
joe rogan
It's so good.
adam eget
Do you have a favorite Black Mirror episode?
joe rogan
Yes.
The one that you and I watched when we were getting NAD'd, the museum.
unidentified
Black Mirror.
joe rogan
Black Museum.
adam eget
Oh, that was a fucking...
That was horrific.
joe rogan
Terrifying.
Goddamn, that was good.
So good.
That and Crocodile.
adam eget
Crocodile was very underrated.
unidentified
Very underrated.
joe rogan
That was a great one.
unidentified
Very terrifying.
adam eget
Terrifying.
joe rogan
Because you could see, like, a good person making these choices, and these choices accelerate to the point where...
adam eget
She was great.
unidentified
Woo!
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's such a good show.
adam eget
Yeah, that was a great one.
I loved the Star Trek one.
I know it was very popular, but that one was so well done.
joe rogan
Very good.
Very creepy, man.
Very possible, right?
All of it.
adam eget
Look at the Trump one.
There's so many.
It was a bad episode, but it came true, basically.
joe rogan
I didn't see the Trump one.
adam eget
It was like Waldo.
It was like this puppet.
It was like this mascot who became president.
And he was just saying all this outlandish shit.
joe rogan
I haven't seen them all.
I haven't seen them.
The problem is he said outlandish shit over the course of X amount of years.
And if you dissect it, it's like he's just spouting it out all day long.
The way they do it is they take you out of context and then they change what you are, right?
Because if you're a guy like Trump who does say ridiculous shit sometimes, particularly before he was ever president, but a lot of people do.
It's called talking shit, and it's what a lot of people do, right?
But you can't do that if you ever plan on being president.
But if you just take all of those talking shit moments and condense them together and go, This is him!
You're like, oh my god, this is a monster.
But nobody's like that all day.
People fascinate.
They vary.
adam eget
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is someone, you know, sometimes the internet really does some great work.
And yesterday I saw somebody splice together that great soundbite of him suggesting that they inject humans with Clorox.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam eget
I'm not a scientist, but maybe we do that.
And then there's this great clip with Jim Downey and Billy Madison.
I don't know if you remember that movie real well.
joe rogan
I saw that really recently.
adam eget
So funny.
So he's talking all this shit about maybe we can inject it into people.
I'm not a scientist, but I don't know, maybe something there.
And then it cuts to Jim Downey and he's like...
He's like, nowhere in your incoherent ramblings have you said anything that makes any sort of sense.
Everyone in this room is now infinitely dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points.
And may God have mercy on your soul.
It was well done.
joe rogan
Beautiful videos that people will post up as a response to things and it's just like you can't say shit when someone says that.
adam eget
They had a great one with Hannah Gadsby cut with like audience.
I guess I shouldn't talk about that.
joe rogan
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
adam eget
The Apollo.
joe rogan
Night at the Apollo.
Yeah.
Whoops.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
That one.
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That video is hilarious.
adam eget
Ah, I miss the comedy store.
joe rogan
The internet's undefeated.
Yeah, man, I miss the Comedy Store, too.
For people who don't know, like, who's this Adam guy?
You are the man who got me to come back to the Comedy Store.
You came to the improv.
adam eget
I mean, I appreciate that.
joe rogan
It's true.
It was my number one goal.
There was two things that happened.
The first one was you coming to the improv and talking to me and explaining to me things are different and all the old people.
adam eget
We know each other for a long time.
joe rogan
Well, we knew each other from Tempe.
Yeah, and then the second thing that got me to do it was Ari, when Ari was having his special there.
adam eget
Dude, that was the hardest I ever worked, to get them to greenlight that special.
It was so important to me, because we love Ari to death.
joe rogan
Ari is, to me, I mean, I've known Ari since he was a doorman at the Comedy Store.
We became friends when he was a doorman.
He was just starting out.
And to see him go from being a doorman to filming his special at the Comedy Store, I was like, I have to be there.
Even if I have to swallow my pride, I have to be there.
So he was filming on a Wednesday, so I went on Tuesday just so it wouldn't shock my system and I could just appreciate his filming.
adam eget
Nice.
joe rogan
So I came down Tuesday, and it was Roast Battle.
And I was like, holy shit.
And Jeff Ross gave me this crazy introduction at Roast Battle.
That was the first time I was at the Comedy Store in seven years.
And then I was seeing how creative everybody was.
The Roast Battle thing was so...
So different.
Because it's obviously like jokes that these guys had to write about each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's like it forces you into writing jokes.
It takes away the one thing that fucks most comedians is that they don't write.
So when you're forced into a battle, like you're going to have to do battle next Tuesday with this girl, and this girl's vicious, like you've got to come up with some mean shit to say about her and it better be really funny.
And she's writing some mean shit about you.
adam eget
Yeah, you already know that she's going to have some shit for you.
joe rogan
It's not my style.
I don't do comedy like that.
adam eget
It's a different muscle.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just a different...
I'm too mean in real life.
I don't want to turn that on for comedy.
I don't like that part of me.
I like to keep that part locked away.
When people get real mean and nasty with each other, I'm like, Jesus!
It makes me uncomfortable but laugh at the same time.
But I don't have that thing in me.
I'm not interested in that.
But that style is...
Even though it's brutal, everyone agrees.
Everyone knows what they're doing to each other.
And then I love how Brian has everybody hug it out.
adam eget
It's great.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
adam eget
It is great.
joe rogan
He's the perfect host for it, too.
He's so friendly.
adam eget
He's just so likable.
He's charismatic.
He is the perfect host for that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's just like the whole thing.
When I was there, I was like, man, this is just so different.
adam eget
It's a wildly different club.
When the old talent coordinator left, it was like...
It was just a complete 180. Everything just started.
You were the catalyst for the truly great years that we were able to experience before this pandemic.
But you could see everything starting to shift a little bit with Roast Battle.
And then when Tommy left, it was like the floodgates opened.
We were able to get rid of some of the old blood and some of the people that were weighing the lineups down.
But you coming back was everything.
I mean, that was so baffling to me when I first came to the Comedy Store about 10 years ago, because I remember hearing about the Mencia beef and everything, and then I'm like, what happened?
And when I heard about what happened, I was like...
How is this allowed?
How did this happen?
So I knew when I took over, I was like, I don't care what I have to do.
And, like, you made the decision all on your own.
All I did was say, hey, give it a shot.
You know, come down at least just to visit.
joe rogan
It seemed like a different world back then.
You know, just a different world.
And then, you know, after the old guard was kicked out, it was like an exorcism.
Like, the moment I came back to the place, I was like, this is a different place.
It's not even the old Comedy Store, because in the 70 years, it had kind of gone through a new rebirth.
You know, I think that place goes through cycles.
When I came there in the 90s, it was dog shit.
It was terrible.
adam eget
Tell me about it.
unidentified
What was it like?
joe rogan
Oh my god, it was terrible.
It was terrible, except for when the greats would show up.
Like every now and then, Martin Lawrence would show up.
Every now and then, Damon Wayans would show up.
adam eget
In their prime.
joe rogan
Yeah, in their prime.
Murderers.
Dude, I've never bombed harder in my life than following Marlon.
Excuse me, following Martin or following Damon.
Following either one of them.
Or Marlon.
Shit.
Or Tommy Davidson back then.
adam eget
Oh, he was great.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
Dude, Tommy Davidson used to murder.
Everybody murdered!
But there was only like a few, and they wouldn't come that often.
So it was like, when Martin would come, the main room would be flooded with people just Pauling out into the hallways like people forgot how big Martin Lawrence was in those days This is the leather jumpsuit days sure the you so crazy days, bro He was on top of the world.
Yeah, he was king of the world for sure He was on top of the world like people forgot they forgot how hard he murdered too.
adam eget
He was so good The hardest decision I ever had to make was one day Martin Lawrence and Chris Rock showed up at the same exact time and they both wanted to go up and I had to decide Who is gonna go on?
unidentified
That was a tough one How long ago was this?
adam eget
This was about a year ago.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
A year and a half ago.
joe rogan
That's a hard one, you know?
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they should work that out.
adam eget
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
That shouldn't be me.
That's too hard for you.
If there's two of them, I would go ahead, man.
I'll go after you.
How long are you going to do?
adam eget
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't want any beef.
And with those two guys, they're both legends.
They're both legends.
When I used to follow Martin Lawrence, man, I developed...
Like this ability to accept the fact that I was gonna eat shit and Not be so scared because I had gotten beaten down a bunch of times by those crowds and that was the brilliance of Mitzi She knew that you know, it was a tough spot She'd just put me on after Martin Lawrence every time, dude.
If she was on the line, it'd be like Martin Lawrence, he'd do 45 minutes, and then it'd be Joe Rogan.
I'm like, death!
You ever seen that video online where there's these Nigerian guys, or these African guys, rather, and it's at a funeral, and when the music starts playing, they go to these guys, and then there's a guy getting knocked out, and then when the guy gets knocked out, you go back to the guys dancing with the coffin.
It's a funny meme in MMA circles.
You know what I'm talking about?
jamie vernon
I just saw it.
I think Donald Trump's account posted it with a clip of Biden saying that stuff to Charlemagne.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
jamie vernon
There's the Biden account going into the coffin.
joe rogan
Oh, please, please see if you can find that.
Please see if you can find that.
Who posted it?
Donald Trump himself?
jamie vernon
I think it was on Donald Trump's Snapchat.
So whoever's controlling that, I don't think he's running his own.
adam eget
So that's you in the coffin every time you had to do a set after Mark.
joe rogan
I would eat shit.
I would eat shit.
And everybody would leave.
adam eget
I love that about Mitzi, that she would do that.
And if you ever once said anything about having to do it, she would put you on ten times more right after the same spot.
joe rogan
Oh, she'd put you on at one in the morning.
She'd be like, oh, you don't want that spot?
Okay, I'll put you on at one in the morning, you fuck.
And she would yell at you, too.
adam eget
And people that have beef, she would always put you one after the other.
Or people that were dating and break up.
I love that about her.
Fucking love that.
What a legend.
joe rogan
That's how you treat it as a real gem, because that's where you would get that real workout in, is the emotional pangs.
But it's also like, as a comic, you've got to learn how to come out of the gate.
When people don't know who you are, and you have a lot to prove, and you're going on after someone who is a legend.
So it's like, you have to develop that ability to follow those folks, because in a normal club, you would get a chance, right?
You'd go on stage, you'd be easy.
No one killed before you.
You just easy.
You stroll out there.
How's everybody doing?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Good looking crowd.
Let me tell you something about my day.
And you can kind of go into it.
Like, you know, ease into it.
But after Martin Lawrence crushes, bro, you got to come with some strong shit.
Right out of the gate.
There's only like 25 people going to stay no matter what you do.
adam eget
Exactly.
joe rogan
No matter what you do.
I would watch masses of people just...
Lift off their chairs and leave the room.
No one stayed.
adam eget
Yeah, and I'll bet 50% of your set is just resetting the room.
I mean, how do you even...
Good God, the first five minutes is...
joe rogan
You learn how to eat shit.
This is Donald Trump.
This is actually Donald Trump's Snapchat, and he put this...
These guys right here, and it comes with this fucking music.
There's so many knockouts.
Here it is.
joe biden
You got more questions, but I tell you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
joe rogan
And it's them carrying a coffin.
unidentified
This is Biden for president on the coffin.
adam eget
The president tweeted that.
joe rogan
Yes, of course he did.
Look, dude, he knows how to use the internet, man, and his son knows how to use the internet.
Donald Trump Jr., they use him for all the wild shit.
When they need to post something really wild, they go to Don Jr.'s Instagram.
adam eget
That's fucking great.
joe rogan
Listen, man, they're playing dirty, everybody's playing dirty.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
The world's playing dirty.
unidentified
Different world.
joe rogan
They're all pretending you're someone who not, lying about this.
No one's gonna be honest.
It's just about creating impressions and memes and getting these short attention span motherfuckers to hold on to a narrative as hard as possible.
Russia!
Russia game!
Russia!
Whatever it is.
Ask people, they're upset, they don't even know what happened.
That's 90% of the people out there, man.
We live in the...
And now it's going to be even weirder because everybody's going to be so stressed out because the economy's in this shit.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's not going to get out of there any quick, anytime soon.
It's going to take some time.
adam eget
What's going to happen?
I mean, this is going to be class war.
Because the people that can afford to stay home...
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
adam eget
They want everyone to go out and get the economy going.
They're super rich.
They don't give a fuck about people dying.
They can stay in their mansions.
joe rogan
There's that aspect of it.
Those are the ones that I don't think are looking at it correctly in terms of the actual danger of the virus.
But then there's other people that are like, hey, I don't want to lose my business.
Why don't you restart the economy so I can take a chance?
I'd rather take a fucking chance.
I'm losing everything.
I'm 99.999999% sure I'm going to fucking survive this.
I'm going to know it's coming.
I'm going to take a lot of vitamins.
Let me do what I have to do.
Let's quarantine the people that are in danger.
Let's quarantine old people.
Let's keep them away until it goes away.
Let's quarantine sick people.
This is what we need to do.
This is what needs to be done.
Not lock the whole fucking country down.
Once they do that, man, they don't want to undo that.
adam eget
I don't know when reason left the world, but in so many different aspects of the world.
Is that what it was?
Twitter?
I mean, there's just no reason almost anywhere.
joe rogan
Well, I think the reason is to save lives.
It just doesn't make sense.
It doesn't work right.
adam eget
Because you're losing lives with everything.
joe rogan
Dude, there's an article that I was reading in the Washington Examiner.
One of those is a weird newspaper.
And it's one of those ones like, what is the bias of the Washington Examiner?
But it's basically saying that there's more people dead from suicide in Northern California than there were from coronavirus deaths.
adam eget
During the lockdown.
joe rogan
Because people are fully in despair.
They're losing everything.
They're going bankrupt.
And they don't see any way out of it.
adam eget
Well, if it wasn't for Korean baseball I would be fucking blowing my fucking head off.
unidentified
I've watched so many movies.
joe rogan
I've watched everything.
adam eget
Just everything?
joe rogan
Everything.
Not really everything.
I still haven't seen the new Adam Sandler movie, the Diamond movie.
It's supposed to be Uncut Gems.
adam eget
Oh, that was my favorite.
That and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood were my two favorites that year.
joe rogan
I have two young girls, and I can't really watch fucked up movies with them.
adam eget
Sure.
joe rogan
I got yelled at for watching Alien with one of them.
adam eget
The first or second?
joe rogan
The first one.
adam eget
Well, yeah, maybe.
Maybe the first.
unidentified
I was like, come on.
joe rogan
I'd watch it.
My mother had me watch those movies when I was really little.
She watched scary movies with me.
adam eget
The first scary movie I ever saw was The Shining.
joe rogan
So it is a true statistic.
Bay Area doctors seeing more suicides during coronavirus stay-at-home order.
jamie vernon
It's at one hospital, though.
unidentified
Oh.
jamie vernon
So they reported it and said it's the whole area.
joe rogan
See?
Good for you, Jamie.
That's real news.
That's real news, folks.
That's how you're supposed to do it.
You're not supposed to lie and read the statistic all fucked up.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
Sometimes people do things like that and you're like, oh, you can't do that.
adam eget
I just saw...
I feel like maybe it was something you said.
Ah, fuck, I can't remember.
There's no weed in this?
joe rogan
No, zero.
This is just 25 milligrams of CBD and some delicious Kill Cliff mango goodness.
adam eget
Well, then I'm just fucktarded.
joe rogan
It happens, bro.
When do you think we'll be able to start up shows again?
adam eget
I'm really hoping in July.
Jesus Christ, July.
I feel like I know, but realistically, I think July.
joe rogan
What would you think about opening up a comedy store in Austin, Texas?
adam eget
I mean, that would do really well.
joe rogan
I think it would do really well.
adam eget
I think it really would.
joe rogan
The conversations I've been having on the phone lately?
I did reconnaissance this weekend.
adam eget
Did you?
joe rogan
I flew to Texas.
adam eget
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
Do you know Charlie?
Do you know the guy who runs South by Southwest Comedy Division?
He'd be a good guy to talk to, probably.
joe rogan
Well, I would just talk to comedians.
adam eget
That's great.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I don't need to talk to anybody but the comics.
I just feel like...
There's a lot of people in Austin.
There's a million people.
They have two good comedy clubs right now.
Cap City's a great room.
And then they have the Velveeta room, which I've never done, but I hear really good things about.
And I don't know if they have anything else.
I think that's it.
adam eget
I've been to South by Southwest a couple different times for Comedy Week, and it's just been insane.
joe rogan
It's a great town.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
I just think there's a real problem with, first of all, the volume of humans here is unmanageable.
And there's a real problem with the government telling us what to do here.
There's things that don't make sense.
And here's the best example.
They recently decided to open it back up for movies.
For movies and television production.
adam eget
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
But not for churches.
What?
Wait a minute, what are you saying?
How about give a church 25% capacity, just like you would other businesses?
adam eget
That makes sense, and that's what we were talking about.
Some reason, balance.
joe rogan
Have more than one service in the day.
You don't have to just...
It doesn't make sense if some things can do their job, and you call them essential businesses, and some can't.
If you're saying that film production is okay...
Here's a weird one.
You can't have Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, but liquor stores are essential businesses.
adam eget
That's insane.
joe rogan
It's so fucked up.
adam eget
That's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
It's so fucked up.
Adam Curry told me that.
And when I read it, I was like, oh no.
And there's logic to the essential business part of the liquor store thing.
Because look, man, people are freaked out.
They need something to calm them down.
If they can't get any booze at all, shit could get really bad.
And the hospitals need the beds.
So when people detox off alcohol, it's very dangerous.
That's actually how Amy Winehouse died.
She died from detoxing from alcohol.
It's a hard fucking fall, too.
So they need the hospital beds.
They can't have people detoxing while everybody's dying of COVID. Makes sense to me.
They deemed it an essential business, but...
Fucking Alcoholics Anonymous, man.
You gotta keep that open.
adam eget
I do an Alcoholics Anonymous Zoom call once a week, and most of them are fucking terrible, man.
You gotta be in person with people.
That doesn't make sense.
That could really help.
joe rogan
The same as my kids are going to Zoom school.
You gotta be in person.
It's not the way to do it.
You gotta be in person with people.
adam eget
I'm telling you it's the fucking worst.
Have you seen some of the stand-up zooms?
joe rogan
Fuck them.
That is ridiculous.
That's like pretending you're in a swimming race in your living room.
I'm swimming.
Look, I'm on the floor.
I'm swimming.
But you're not swimming.
You're not doing comedy.
You're fucking doing something weird, man, because you wish you could do comedy.
adam eget
It's so bad.
It's so painful to watch.
Timing is everything, and it kills the timing.
You have no energy, no audience reaction.
It's not stand-up.
joe rogan
No, it's not stand-up.
Phoenix is holding shows again.
adam eget
Wow!
joe rogan
Phoenix has full nightclubs again.
adam eget
Jesus!
joe rogan
Yeah, Floyd Mayweather was spotted at this Phoenix nightclub.
No masks on in the whole place, bumper to bumper with people.
adam eget
Really?
Again, balance.
I feel like maybe...
joe rogan
Let them do it.
Let them do it.
That's what I say.
Let them do it.
Listen, man, this is not what we thought it was going to be.
It's not killing people at the rate we thought it was going to.
We would have never signed up for this if we thought it was really going to kill 0.1% of the population that catch it.
And you realize how many people catch it and don't even know they had it.
And then you look at the average age that people are dying from.
It's literally older than the average age people die.
adam eget
Oh, well then, what the fuck?
joe rogan
The whole thing makes no sense.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
This is not something you should shut the economy down for.
We thought it was.
We thought it was going to be a terrible thing that was going to wreck havoc.
And they'll point out individual cases of people that are really young or healthy and something goes wrong with them.
100%.
Yeah, that's terrible.
But we should just be careful.
Doesn't mean we should keep everything shut down.
It's rare that these people exist.
These young people that get sick that you hear about, it's not normal.
adam eget
Why aren't we reassessing the situation then?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
adam eget
Are they going to see how these other cities that have opened up do and how that goes and then reevaluate?
joe rogan
This is a very conservative state in that regard.
It means very liberal, but it's very conservative in the regard of how they're approaching this thing.
They're doing it very slowly and very deliberately.
You know, I don't agree with it.
I just think at a certain point in time, you have to adjust.
It is not what we thought it was going to be.
We thought there were going to be hundreds of thousands of people dead.
In this state, there's only 2,000 people dead.
But people are dying from all kinds of shit all the time.
We can't just focus on one thing.
adam eget
Of course.
joe rogan
While this is happening, people are dying in this state of tuberculosis, lung cancer, liver cancer.
They're dying.
adam eget
So do you think this is a political thing?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
adam eget
To try and keep the economy shitting?
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
I don't think that.
I've heard that crazy conspiracy theory.
I don't think that.
I think it's a matter of, first of all, there's a lot of people that are legitimately scared.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I talk to kids' parents that don't want the kids going back to school in September.
These people are legitimately scared.
They think it's going to get worse.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
If I had kids at home, fucking open it up.
adam eget
Open the fucking schools immediately.
joe rogan
For children, it's very rare that it's fatal.
Very rare that it's fatal.
But the flu is far more fatal.
The flu is far more fatal for children.
And during flu season, we willingly let kids go to school and we don't even think about it.
adam eget
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to think about it.
If you're really worried about children, the flu is far more deadly.
Now, this is not dismissing the deadliness of this disease.
This is a terrible disease.
Michael Yeo got it and he almost died.
But a lot of things happened to Michael Yeo.
He flew all the way to fucking New York with no sleep.
He did radio.
He did all those kinds of shit.
He did shows there.
No sleep.
Flies back and then drives from his house to Vegas and then back with his family in the same day.
Then he has two days of auditions.
Plus, he's vitamin D deficient.
adam eget
Oh, well there you go.
joe rogan
I was thinking all this.
I was like, well, Michael Yeo is a strong guy.
He's healthy and vibrant.
Like if that guy got sick from it, oh my god, this is scary.
No vitamin D. Vitamin D deficiency is something that exists in like 70% of the population.
70% of the people in this country are vitamin D deficient.
adam eget
First thing I did when I saw that we were going to be quarantined, I ordered a shit ton of vitamin D online.
So I'd take some every day.
I'd try and go out in the sun every day because, yeah, I don't want this fucking thing.
I think I had it.
I think I had it in January.
unidentified
Everybody thinks they had it.
adam eget
I really did.
I've never had a cough like this in my life where I was wheezing.
I could barely breathe.
And the doctors were baffled.
They took chest x-rays, had it for three weeks.
But who fucking knows?
joe rogan
You might have had it.
unidentified
I thought I had it too.
adam eget
I'll get an antibody test and figure it out.
joe rogan
I thought I had it and didn't even feel it.
adam eget
That makes sense.
If there's anybody I could think of that would have it and not be able to feel it, it would be you for sure.
joe rogan
No, I'm pretty sensitive to that kind of shit.
adam eget
Congrats, by the way, on fucking Spotify.
joe rogan
Thank you.
adam eget
Holy shit.
joe rogan
I know.
Crazy, right?
adam eget
So well deserved, man.
joe rogan
Thank you.
adam eget
God damn.
Very nice of you.
Sorry, I didn't want to forget.
joe rogan
No worries.
adam eget
I didn't want to fucking forget...
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, I've been ultra paying attention to my health while this is all going on.
That's one thing that's helped a lot.
Like, while this is going on...
adam eget
You're always paying attention to my health.
joe rogan
Yeah, but really.
Like, I'm in the sauna every day.
25 minutes every day.
No excuses.
Like, super regular workout routine.
Super regular with my vitamins.
Super regular with everything.
Just being really on the ball.
Because it made me...
You can't take your health for granted.
And that's a simple statement that sort of just bounces around a room like a beach ball doesn't mean anything.
adam eget
This puts it in perspective.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
This puts it in perspective.
adam eget
There's no doubt about it.
joe rogan
And in the beginning, people were less cunty, too.
I don't know if you noticed.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they were really worried they were going to die.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so things meant something.
adam eget
You know what it reminded me of?
It was like the week after 9-11.
Everyone was real friendly with each other, super neighborly, and now it's like I go out in traffic, people are cutting each other off.
joe rogan
But it's worse than 9-11 because after 9-11 people went back to normal.
Now they're going to go back from all this niceness.
They're going to go back to being a cunt and there's no work.
And then they're angry.
And you were saying something important earlier.
You said we could fall into some sort of a class warfare type situation.
Yeah, it is terrifying.
And I don't think it had to be this way.
And I don't think it has to stay this way.
And they're talking about not even opening up L.A. until July 4th, 4th of July weekend.
Like, hey man, like, why?
This is so arbitrary.
And there's no talk whatsoever about strengthening your immune system.
None.
adam eget
Yeah, what the fuck?
Like, the most important things are just falling by the waist.
Like, I don't understand that.
joe rogan
It's poor government.
It's just poor leadership.
It's poor leadership.
That's what it is.
It's leading, only looking at one perspective, and that's the perspective that enhances fear.
This is, wear a mask, wear your gloves, use hand sanitizer, don't touch anything, stay apart from each other.
And then the other perspective is get out in the sun, get your vitamin D, drink lots of water, stop drinking soda, check your vitamin levels if you can, but give yourself X amount of vitamin C a day, X amount of D, take zinc.
Zinc has been shown to have a very positive effect on people with high zinc levels or sufficient zinc levels that have this virus also have a much better outcome.
adam eget
That's all I take every morning.
I take one zinc, one vitamin D, and two airborns.
joe rogan
But you won't hear any of this shit.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
That's what's so crazy.
adam eget
I had to look it up.
I mean, people fucking, they should be, yeah, they should be pumping this into our fucking bloodstream via the news, but it's all bullshit.
joe rogan
It's all bullshit.
When Rhonda Patrick was talking about the vitamin D levels in people that are in ICU, it's like, if you were a scientist, you'd be like, hold on, we found it.
adam eget
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
86% of the people in the ICU are deficient in vitamin D, and then 4% have sufficient levels of vitamin D? 4%.
That's insane.
It's 80-something percent versus 4%.
You're like, holy fuck!
Holy fuck!
adam eget
I don't understand where the last...
joe rogan
Dude, it makes zero sense.
It makes zero sense.
adam eget
I wish that we could open the store tomorrow.
joe rogan
Yes.
adam eget
Like, we should be able to open the original room at, start out at 25% capacity, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, well just, what does it usually fit?
adam eget
150 people?
150 about, yeah.
joe rogan
Just 75 people, you folks.
adam eget
Yeah, we can space it out.
joe rogan
How about just get everybody to sign a waiver?
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
Just sign a fucking waiver.
Let's do this.
And if you have a sick mom at home or if you have someone vulnerable at home, don't go out to these places.
You're the one who should make the sacrifice.
Shouldn't be the whole world sacrificing.
adam eget
Exactly, but we can't rely on these fucking assholes.
So can you take a temp?
joe rogan
Yes, they did it in the restaurant I went to in Texas.
I went to a real restaurant.
adam eget
So we'll just get one of those fucking forehead temps.
joe rogan
Shout out to the Lonesome Dove.
I ate at this Lonesome Dove restaurant in Austin.
They take a fucking thermostat, they put it to your forehead, and they read, you're like, you're all good.
And then you write on this thing, have you been in contact with anybody who has COVID? Have you had a fever?
Have you had any cold-like symptoms?
And as long as you're clear on all that stuff...
adam eget
We should be doing that and call it a day.
joe rogan
They wear a mask, they stay away from you, I mean, mostly, except when they're taking your meal or dropping off your meal.
adam eget
Because we've already gone over the game plan ad nauseum.
We know exactly how we're going to do it, you know, how to have access to the bathrooms, social distancing in the room, where the comics can enter the stage so they're not fucking in the thick of it.
We're ready to go.
All we need is the green light.
joe rogan
I don't know.
The problem is they're never going to want to give that green light.
adam eget
I mean, they're going to have to give.
I really feel like early July, we'll get a percentage green light for one of the rooms.
I really think so.
joe rogan
They're going to let you have half the belly room.
adam eget
No.
I'll take whatever.
joe rogan
I know.
I'll take it, too.
adam eget
Goddamn.
I never thought I'd miss that place that much.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, I miss it bad.
adam eget
It got to a point where I'm like, I just want to fucking hide there because everybody wants something and I didn't have shit to give them.
joe rogan
Right, right.
adam eget
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's a weird position as a talent coordinator for a comedy club where all the best comedians go to.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's like everyone who's in town, whether it's Chappelle or Bill Burr or whoever, they're all there.
adam eget
They're all there.
joe rogan
So there's no spots.
adam eget
And then there's you and Joey Diaz and, you know, everybody else and Whitney Cummings and all the A-plus level comics are there every single night when they're in town.
And they're in town.
And then that leaves you, you know, and then from 11 to 12, that's all the Andrew Santino's and the Eric Griffin's and the Fahim Anwar's and all these other beasts that aren't filling fucking arenas, but they're the next ones up, you know?
joe rogan
So if you're some new guy or gal who's coming up the line...
adam eget
Yeah, that leaves like five spots a night at the end of the lineup.
And you've got 250 comics calling in every week just that fit into that paradigm.
So it's like, sorry, you know, it's nothing personal.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no club like it.
No club ever been like it either, where there's no shortage of people in the audience.
I mean, those years from when I came back to when the pandemic hit were the craziest years I've ever seen in stand-up comedy at that place.
By far, like a whole new dimension, like a whole world had shifted.
adam eget
It's been so fucking cool to watch, you know, and to see that shift.
There's some comics that are coming up right now.
Some of the ones that I passed in the last year or two, I'm so excited about.
Like this guy, Brian Simpson, you've got to...
Nick, when we reopen again, I'm telling you, this guy's a beast.
Segura, he opens up for Segura now.
He's fantastic.
Lara Bites, who you know, is fantastic.
joe rogan
Lara's hilarious.
She's hilarious.
Kreischer and I were in the back of the room watching her on stage.
It was like the end of the night.
There's maybe like...
20 people or something in the crowd and more people were in the crowd by the end of her set than were there in the beginning because people were coming in because she was slaying.
adam eget
That's so cool.
joe rogan
Dude, she was killing us.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We had been around all night.
We've been hanging there all night.
It was late, man.
adam eget
Those are always the best sets.
Holtzman closing out the main room when it's like nine people in the audience and 20 comics in the back of the room.
joe rogan
Well, that's where Kinison used to do his spots.
I mean, they used to say, like, people would come to see him.
They would start showing up at 12 o'clock.
adam eget
Yeah.
And that's where I would put Brody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
My trunk is still filled with all of his shit.
joe rogan
Really?
What do you got?
adam eget
I had to clean out his whole apartment.
joe rogan
Do you have his kettlebell?
adam eget
I might.
You want it?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam eget
Alright, if I have the kettlebell, I definitely have some drumsticks.
Whatever you want.
We'll go out there afterwards.
We'll have a Brody garage sale.
joe rogan
We worked together in Tempe, and he was doing cleans and presses in the parking lot.
Staying fit!
adam eget
I remember that.
That's when he used to do it, but he's like, you might remember me from the made-for-TV Vlade Divac movie.
unidentified
Yes!
adam eget
He was the best.
unidentified
Push!
joe rogan
Positive!
adam eget
You know, we went to Little League together.
joe rogan
Did you really?
adam eget
I grew up in Tarzana.
He grew up in Tarzana.
unidentified
Wow.
adam eget
And he was one of the older students.
But yeah, Joe Torre, little baseball camp.
unidentified
Wow.
adam eget
Yeah.
I miss that motherfucker every day.
joe rogan
I miss that motherfucker, too.
He was another thing about that place.
Like, the special quality of that place.
Like...
You weren't going to run into Brody Stevens in any other walk of life.
You had to meet that kind of comedy, especially to get to know him like the way we got to know Brody.
adam eget
Yeah, you take it for granted, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
I really do.
joe rogan
Well, you really do.
And you really know you do now.
Like, I kind of knew I took it for granted, too.
I'd leave that place some nights, and I'd be like, how lucky are we that we have this place now?
Because this place never existed.
And for me, it was like, you know, we're talking about the pandemic and coming back from the pandemic.
For me, it was like...
When I was gone and then I came back, it made me realize, like, oh, this is a very valuable thing for your comedy.
Like, you can't just go to, like, random comedy clubs and just jump in and do sets.
Like, having a home base and having a home base filled with, like, Jezelnik and all these fucking assassins, it's like you'd just be around murderers just all day long slaying.
And it just makes everybody's level higher.
I felt like the level of comedy that I was experiencing there was higher than I'd ever seen it before.
Like, you know, there was always the murderers like Martin Lawrence and Damon Wayans, but there was a lot of bullshit in there.
A lot of fuckin' bodaks and a lot of dudes who were doing literally the same act, no bullshit, for 25 years.
adam eget
I know I had to get rid of a lot of them.
joe rogan
Dude, it was weird.
Like, you would see a guy, and then you'd not see him for 10, 15 years, and you'd see the same act in the same order verbatim with old, like, Ronald Reagan as president references and shit, and like, whoa!
So that was when I came here in 94. There was a lot of that going on.
adam eget
I believe it.
joe rogan
I believe it.
Nothing, murderers, and then nothing, and then the occasional murder.
But it was like, you get one murder a night, maybe.
It wasn't nothing like now.
adam eget
I mean, I'm so fortunate to have the people calling in every week that they could call in, because from 9 o'clock to literally 1215, it's just wall-to-wall killers.
joe rogan
Yeah, we need to get the president involved in this.
Tell him that he'll get the support of all the comedians if he just has a federal mandate to open up all comedy clubs.
We need it.
It's an essential business.
adam eget
It really is, though.
joe rogan
It is an essential business.
adam eget
That's going to do wonders for everybody's mental health, for sure.
joe rogan
It will, and for all the mental patients that do stand-up.
I mean, what are they doing right now?
They're bouncing off the walls.
All these fucking people, they're losing their minds so hard they're doing Zoom comedy.
Somebody talked them into it.
adam eget
I'm in my studio apartment.
I'm Jack Torrance over there.
That's like my little Overlook Hotel.
joe rogan
I don't think that's good for you.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You're a very social guy.
I don't think that's a good thing to be locked up like that for two months at a time.
adam eget
Right.
Yeah, I can't wait to get out.
joe rogan
Just take a chance with a bug.
Just go wander around.
Go to the beach, lick some faces.
unidentified
You know, I... Go to the beach.
adam eget
Hold some hands.
I've been talking to Norm McDonald a lot lately.
I think we're going to start the podcast up again.
So thank God for that.
joe rogan
Just get tested.
You can bring him in here and get tested too.
adam eget
Yeah.
You know what?
I think we would kill for you to be the first guest.
joe rogan
I would love to do it.
I'm 100% in.
adam eget
Oh, thank God.
Yeah, we have some good guests lined up.
So now we're just going to figure it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, so you're all set to get tested today, too.
adam eget
Oh, perfect.
joe rogan
I know you don't have it because you haven't gone anywhere.
adam eget
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
When you sit in your house like that for all those days at a time, that's got to be so depressing.
adam eget
It's not great.
It's not great.
It's really not.
Yeah, my depression and anxiety is through the fucking roof.
joe rogan
Do you do any kind of exercise video or something?
adam eget
Yeah, I got a rowing machine, so I do a lot of rowing, and then I go on a long walk.
I go on like a five-mile walk every day.
joe rogan
Oh, that's very good.
adam eget
But that's it, yeah.
joe rogan
But you're by yourself most of the time.
adam eget
But I'm by myself in my apartment.
joe rogan
Yeah, shit, that ain't good.
Being by yourself that often is not good.
adam eget
No, it certainly isn't.
joe rogan
All the single people.
This is a fucking weird one for single people.
adam eget
Well, it's kind of choose your poison.
I don't know how I feel like I would fucking want to kill somebody if I was stuck in a single room.
joe rogan
Yeah, that could happen for sure.
adam eget
Oh, absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah, that could happen for sure.
It either brings you closer together or it drifts you further apart.
Those are the two possibilities.
adam eget
Yeah, if you have a strong foundation, you truly like each other.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You get to know each other better.
adam eget
You've already accepted each other for everything, warts and all.
joe rogan
And also you both realize, like you're saying, you appreciate the store.
You also appreciate your family.
You appreciate your friends.
I appreciate my friends and my family and just everybody in my life way more now than I guess I do.
I guess I always appreciated them, but there's like another 10% bump in all that stuff when the pandemic was happening.
Because one started happening in the beginning, I was like genuinely scared.
I was genuinely thinking this could be something that kills 10% of the people I know.
I was genuinely thinking like, oh my god, this could be way worse.
China could be lying about how bad it is.
It could be way worse.
adam eget
I remember talking to you about it right when you were in that state of mind.
And it was terrifying.
joe rogan
But what made me, it made me think in that state of mind, like I'm so thankful that I have such an amazing group of friends, so thankful that I have an amazing family, so thankful that I have friends that I love, that we can fuck with each other and talk shit to each other.
You know, it's like...
adam eget
Some of the greatest joys of my day, I'm in a group thread with a bunch of comics.
And those are my favorite moments of the day.
Just cracking each other up and talking shit.
joe rogan
I'm in this thread with Whitney and Nick Swartzen and Delia.
It's the most ridiculous thread.
It's been going on for years, man.
For years.
I call it the bitch group.
Just bitching about shit.
It's really funny.
adam eget
I'm in a great one with Spade and Whitney.
It's just the best.
joe rogan
He's just in a bunch of group texts.
All day long, talking shit.
It's funny, man.
unidentified
It's so fun.
adam eget
I love her with all of my heart.
joe rogan
She's a great human being.
adam eget
She really is a special one.
joe rogan
Very, very unique.
adam eget
Swords in two.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He's amazing.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Deli, too.
We're so lucky.
Yeah.
We're very, very, very lucky.
There's just a bunch of people that we know that are just some of the most fun people to be around.
adam eget
Yeah.
And Arya Shafir.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That fucking maniac.
adam eget
No, I meant...
You know, Jerry Sloan just died.
Hopefully he learned his lesson and keeps his fucking mouth shut this time.
You know Jerry Sloan?
joe rogan
No, who's Jerry Sloan?
adam eget
The coach of the Utah Jazz.
joe rogan
Don't even mention it to R. He probably doesn't know yet.
adam eget
He knows now.
joe rogan
That sort of a prank, the idea of that prank, it's like, okay.
adam eget
He can't help himself.
joe rogan
He's just fully committed to being the wrestling heel.
adam eget
Exactly.
joe rogan
All the time.
adam eget
He loves it.
joe rogan
Dude, I was reading that wrestling might go under.
adam eget
No.
How?
joe rogan
They're saying that wrestling is, they're firing wrestlers.
I know they got rid of Cain Velasquez, and he only did like one match with them.
They're releasing a bunch of people off their roster, and they're hurting apparently, because they're not getting any live gait.
You gotta think, pro wrestling, when they tour around the country, I mean, they're doing hundreds of shows in these giant places.
Imagine the amount of money just from the live gate of all these places and then merch, all that different stuff.
All that stuff's cut off.
So they have the same amount of expenses, but then through no fault of their own, boom!
Profits stop.
adam eget
I'm genuinely ignorant about so many things in this world, except for maybe music, movies, and comedy.
But here's what I don't understand.
They've made a shit ton of money, haven't they?
joe rogan
Yeah, but they've been ballin'.
They're not saving?
What are they, a Boy Scout?
adam eget
I thought Vince McMahon was like a...
unidentified
Vince McMahon?
adam eget
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
He's on Juice and he's 90. He's the guy who started the XFL. Do you think he's saving money?
adam eget
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
adam eget
I just watched the 30 for 30 on the XFL. It was great.
joe rogan
That guy's doing squats and shooting fucking steroids and making billions of dollars.
He doesn't have any time for this nonsense.
adam eget
Yeah, I guess that's true.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
He's an animal.
He's not saving any money.
That guy probably has 50 bucks in the backyard.
He probably spends everything he makes, probably makes a hundred million dollars a year, spends it all, like, it's going out of style.
He's a fucking animal.
And you look at his business, though, like, you've got, I believe, the way they have, you would be able to know this, the app, their app, you get everything through the app, right?
Yeah, the WWE Network, I think is what's Right, so when you sign up, you pay a monthly fee, and you get all the events.
There's no pay-per-view, right?
jamie vernon
Right.
joe rogan
Whereas the UFC, not the case.
The UFC, like, if you get ESPN +, you gotta pay for ESPN +, but when, like, Conor McGregor fights or Jon Jones fights, you gotta pay for that.
adam eget
Yeah, I found out the hardware about, what was that, like, three weeks ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's just how it is, man.
That's just how it is.
And they don't have the same model.
And a lot of people, like WWE used to have that model.
They used to have, you'd pay for pay-per-views.
They have their regular shows and they have the big time pay-per-views.
adam eget
Yeah, I remember that with like SummerSlam and even the WWF days.
joe rogan
Yeah, they used to advertise those all the time on cable.
jamie vernon
If you could imagine, though, if like Tuesday night, Rochester knew you or Conor McGregor would just fight a championship fight and then you see him again on Saturday.
adam eget
That's a good point.
joe rogan
You heard what Ronda Rousey said about that.
She was like, you fucking dorks.
Listen, this is fake fighting and they do it 200 times a year.
She goes, you know what happened?
If you fought 200 times a year, you'd be dead.
Even though she's a star in the WWE, at the end of the day, she was like the original, great, famous women's mixed martial arts fighter.
She's not taking your nonsense.
She's not listening to any of that stupid shit.
Shut the fuck up.
You know?
I mean, she got knocked out by Cyborg and Amanda Nunes, or not Cyborg, by Amanda Nunes and Holly Holm, back to back.
The idea that she's going to listen to some fucking...
Wrestling dork, give her a shit.
That business though, what I was going to say is I think because of the app, the WWE, because of the app, the way they have it set up, they don't have the live gate anymore.
So all that money from those, they do these giant arenas, they're selling out like crazy all over the country, 200 plus a year.
All that money's gone.
adam eget
They can't just hit the fucking pause button?
joe rogan
No, Vince McMahon's got pills, son.
He's got 80 jets and fucking 100 houses.
He's got no time!
He's just...
I don't know.
I don't know what they do.
I mean, I think when the business drops, you gotta act accordingly, I guess.
Maybe when the business comes back, they'll rehire people.
It's a hard time for everybody, man.
But the people that I feel the most for are people who are dying and people who lost people.
But next, people who are losing their business and their families falling apart because of this.
And they're through no fault of their own.
adam eget
Yeah, and then the employees that are just forced to go out of work.
And how do they have to go in food?
Like, I don't understand how they're supposed to just quarantine for months with no money.
joe rogan
And again, no talk at all.
adam eget
$1,200.
joe rogan
And no talk at all about taking care of your health.
No talk.
adam eget
That's just shocking.
joe rogan
No talk.
Nothing.
adam eget
Yeah, that should be number one, two, and three on the list.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, it's fucking...
It's crazy.
adam eget
What is going on?
I wonder if other countries...
I'd be fascinated to see how they're handling this in other countries on their news over there.
joe rogan
Well, some countries aren't handling it badly at all.
Some countries are, like Germany had a crazy low death rate.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of countries that have really low death rates.
adam eget
I wonder if they're focused on that.
I wonder if on their news programs, they're focused on, here's what you need to do to protect yourself.
Take a lot of vitamin D. Take this.
Do this.
Get in the sun.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think it's probably their healthcare system, and it's probably their diet.
You know, there's a real issue in this country with sugar, and that's a giant part of what's happening here.
When you talk about people that are getting diabetes and, you know, people that are overweight, those are two big factors in this disease.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
And they're both connected, not the genetic form of diabetes, but type 2 is connected to sugar consumption.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's directly connected to your diet.
Ask Dean Del Rey.
Dean Del Rey had fucking diabetes because he was eating sugar all day.
adam eget
Yeah, he was doing Jamba Juice once a day.
Yeah, he was eating candy.
joe rogan
He realized it when they gave him that wake-up call, that diabetes wake-up call.
adam eget
That's a fucking hell of a wake-up call.
joe rogan
But now you look at him, he's healthy and fit.
adam eget
He looks better than he ever has.
joe rogan
He lost a ton of weight, and he said he feels so good.
adam eget
He looks killer.
joe rogan
He looks great.
And now, like his Instagram posts, you'll see quite a few of them.
Every now and then, he'll talk about sugar and what he used to look like.
He'll put up Fat Dean pictures.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, like Fat Dean Tuesday.
adam eget
Dude, I got Fat Adam.
I got Fatim photos.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
That's right.
You showed me those.
adam eget
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those are solid.
joe rogan
I didn't know you then.
adam eget
No, I was chubby at the improv.
When was that?
I'm not judging.
joe rogan
I'm not judging.
I didn't even notice.
adam eget
No, you probably did know me when I was Fathom.
Those were good days.
joe rogan
Maybe a little bit, but I let it go.
adam eget
Yeah, good.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
joe rogan
But Dean, he's a perfect example.
I mean, he had all sorts of health problems because of that sugar consumption.
Look, there's Fat Dean with his name.
He got his name on the store at the wall.
I remember that.
Look at that.
Fat Dean Tuesday.
adam eget
He did.
He looks like Bobby Hill.
He used to do a bit about that.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's crazy how fat he was.
adam eget
God damn.
joe rogan
And now he's healthy and young.
adam eget
Yeah, sugar's a killer, man.
joe rogan
He's going back in time.
adam eget
It's a killer.
joe rogan
He's getting younger.
He looks younger.
adam eget
He does look way younger now.
joe rogan
Way younger.
He looks healthier.
He looks so much better.
adam eget
That's my problem.
I eat too much ice cream.
joe rogan
Again, we're not hearing any of this stuff from people.
We're not hearing any of this stuff from Fauci or all these health experts.
We're not hearing any of it.
adam eget
No.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
adam eget
We're just hearing, inject yourself with fucking Clorox.
joe rogan
And if you talk to people like, well, you don't want to shame people for, you know, for having a poor diet or for being overweight, like...
Do you care if people die or not?
What do you care about?
Is it hurting people's feelings or saving their lives?
adam eget
Everything's asked backwards now.
Everyone's too sensitive.
They're worried about people's feelings too much.
joe rogan
It's going to be real weird when we come back to doing comedy and you hear all the COVID jokes.
adam eget
It's going to be the audience going to be exhausted.
That's going to be the new airplane food.
joe rogan
I'm avoiding them.
I'm not writing anything about them.
adam eget
Who's going to build the wall?
It's going to be the new fucking...
Exactly.
We get it.
joe rogan
Exactly.
adam eget
Wait, fuck.
You're sure there's no weed in this?
joe rogan
100%.
You probably got contact tied just from being in the room with me.
adam eget
No, there was something specific I was going to ask you.
joe rogan
You had like 30 days?
How many days?
90 days off?
adam eget
90 days.
Yeah, I got sober on March 1st.
unidentified
You can't be in a room with someone like me when I'm smoking weed.
adam eget
That's what I was going to ask you.
Do you think...
joe rogan
It's probably catching you.
adam eget
No, no, I don't think so.
Do you think that...
joe rogan
Social distance from weed smoke.
adam eget
Do you think all the PC bullshit and the social justice warrior shit is going to be tempered after we...
joe rogan
No.
No, I think it was tempered because of the real danger.
I think the real threat and the real fear tempered it.
And now that that's gone away, the real fear is going to give way to a new level of anger because of this level of despair people are going to be experiencing financially over the next few months.
So there's going to be a heightened...
It's almost going to have a slingshot effect.
People got less cunty and they're gonna get more cunty and more self-righteous.
More self-righteous, more people chastising, criticizing people.
And on Twitter you really see it because people are literally forced to be at home.
So if you're forced to be at home and you don't have the discipline to stay off Twitter and you happen to comment something and someone comments on your comment and then you start talking shit to each other, that's your day.
Not only is that your day, but you're going to be crazy.
You're going to be thinking about it in the middle of the night.
What the fuck did they write?
You get up to pee.
I'm not going to check my phone.
Let me check my phone.
Fuck!
And they said something that's pretty good.
And you're like, God damn it.
Now I've got to come up with something to say back.
So you start Googling statistics.
Yeah, man.
I mean, this is what a lot of people are doing.
It's making people sicker and sicker.
I have almost completely avoided Twitter.
Other than I'll check my DMs occasionally.
And occasionally I'll check what other people have posted that I'm friends with or that I follow.
Check a little bit, but I might give it five minutes a day.
adam eget
I deleted my Twitter icon about a year ago, and then I just reinstalled it maybe about a week or two ago.
And I'm already starting to see, like, what am I doing?
Why am I even looking?
It's just getting me pissed off.
joe rogan
It's just too many people are angry.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just too many.
adam eget
About nonsense.
joe rogan
Well, maybe to them it's important.
Right?
It's like when you post it, it's important.
But when you're dealing with whatever the fuck it is, 100 million people that are on Twitter or more, probably more, that are posting on a regular basis, and then most of what they want to say is angry.
Most of what they want to say is negative.
Most of it is complaining.
It might be like 60% complaining.
Yeah.
When you tune into that, you're getting all the problems of all these people.
It's just too many people.
You're supposed to deal with the problems of the people that are around you.
So if there's like 10 people around you and Tommy's got a problem, what's wrong with Tommy?
Let's go talk to Tommy.
It's not supposed to be 10 million people, and then there's hundreds of thousands of Tommy's just flooding your feed with bullshit.
Nonsense.
My fucking girl's lying about this, and they say we can't vote in November.
Fuck that!
I say we sue!
Whoa!
All this craziness.
And it's like you just deal with the worst aspects of everyone's day or everyone's thoughts or everyone's opinions.
You're just dealing with all this negativity.
And it's so rare.
And it's really very much appreciated when you do find it.
Like a really well-structured conversation or disagreement about something where people don't get shitty at all.
It's like, wow, that's beautiful.
That's pleasant to see.
Or there's people that want to dox people because they don't like this politician that they support, or they want you to not have to wear a mask.
People want to dox you.
There's so many people that are so fucking angry and weird online, and then you add this pandemic to it, and you just got this boiling pot of shitty thinking.
And anger.
And meanness.
Just mean.
adam eget
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
joe rogan
Where's the love?
Where's the love?
Where's the camaraderie?
Where's the hugs?
Isn't that the best part of your day?
Wouldn't you rather be friends with people?
Like, I know you can have disagreements and not be shitty.
It's possible.
adam eget
And that's what I loved about the comedy stores.
People that, you know, didn't disagree, but they fucking, you know, they're still the camaraderie, and they're, at the end of the day, they're in the same boat.
Like, they love each other.
joe rogan
Pretty much.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lack of conservative comedians, I would say, if there's anything that's odd.
adam eget
Yeah, that is.
I think that's very true.
joe rogan
There's a few, you know, that you know of, but it's pretty rare.
adam eget
I think there's probably more than we know that they're just not on stage.
They're avoiding it.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
In acting, it's like fucking 99% or something.
It's crazy.
Exactly.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which makes me think that can't be real.
It makes me think that it's probably a lot of it is people shaping their opinions so that they're more accepted and loved by the community that they've chosen to try to excel in.
adam eget
Definitely.
All business decisions.
Exactly.
joe rogan
I remember I had this conversation with this dude once.
I was on a TV set when I first started acting.
adam eget
In news radio?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, before that.
Hardball.
adam eget
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is early in my acting career.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I was quite crazy.
And I was talking to this dude about a movie.
Actually, it might have been news radio days.
Because I think that's when this movie came out.
It was As Good As It Gets.
adam eget
Sure.
With Jack Nicholson?
joe rogan
Which I thought was the most fucking depressing movie.
I'm like, here's this lady, and she's so nice, and she keeps accepting this guy for fucking up over and over again.
And then the end, the solution, is he takes a pill, and the pill keeps him from being an asshole?
Like, what?
There's no pill for that!
Like, that's so crazy.
adam eget
He's an asshole.
Yeah, he was a major asshole.
joe rogan
He's a fucking asshole.
And we're supposed to say, oh, no, no, no, he just needed a pill.
See, once he gets this non-asshole medium inside of his body, it cancels out all the assholishness, and he's actually a good guy.
So she found a good guy.
No, this poor lady was a single mom who was living with this fucking mean piece of shit.
And a pill fixed it.
And I was like, that movie depressed the fuck out of me.
And I was talking to this actor, and he goes, actually, I think he had a lot to offer her.
I go, what?
Because it was a popular movie.
I go, it was a terrible movie.
I go, if that lady was your sister, wouldn't you want to grab her and go, Helen, come on, you're awesome.
adam eget
This guy's a dickhead.
joe rogan
This guy's so mean.
He's always mean.
He says racist shit.
He's mean.
He's cracking jokes.
He was yelling at people.
adam eget
He did a lot of weird shit, right?
He was a writer, right?
They said, how do you write women so well?
I think of a regular woman, and they take away reason and accountability.
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that.
adam eget
No, he was misogynist.
He was an asshole.
Always a dick.
joe rogan
But there was no nice.
adam eget
No, he had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
He had crippling OCD. I haven't seen it in many years.
Didn't make any sense.
joe rogan
Didn't make any sense.
I'm like, oh, it was depressing.
Look, it's a work of art, right?
It doesn't have to be warm and fuzzy.
But it made me feel bad.
But he was like sticking up for the relationship.
adam eget
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, that's insane.
joe rogan
But I realized in the middle of the conversation, I'm like, oh, people do shit like that because they think they're supposed to like a movie.
So they say shit.
adam eget
Of course that's what he was doing.
joe rogan
Oh, it was 100%.
adam eget
Yes, definitely.
joe rogan
Because I was, look, I was dumb.
I mean, I'm dumb now, but back then I was like four years removed from fighting.
adam eget
If you're fucking dumb now, then I'm fucked!
joe rogan
I was much dumber than them, but my instincts were always to challenge people on things.
Like, what?
What are you saying?
I wanted to find out why he could ever possibly think that that was a good idea for that lady to date that fucking asshole, that mean guy who just needed a pill.
That's so crazy!
That's the craziest movie!
adam eget
I remember that.
I remember when the English patient came out and everybody was all over, was like, this is the best thing ever.
And I was like, that movie fucking sucked.
But I wouldn't...
Today, if it came out today, I would have no problem being like, no, you're wrong.
That movie bored the shit out of me.
joe rogan
It was weird.
But my point was not that, you know, it was a good movie or a bad movie.
adam eget
He was sticking up for the relationship to...
joe rogan
He was just...
This is what my point was.
I could tell he wasn't really saying it because he thought it.
adam eget
Thought it.
joe rogan
He was saying it because he thought it was the thing that he should say.
And in talking to this guy, I found this, like, it was like one of those fake houses where they film a TV show where there's nothing behind it.
It's propped up on sticks.
And I'm looking at this guy, and it's like I look behind the sign.
I was like, you're a fake personality.
You don't even have a real personality.
Like, who are you?
Like, you're a fucking weirdo.
And this is one way you could tell these people.
They would always say, good to see you.
Even if they just met you.
They'd say, good to see you.
It was like you're in a cult.
Like, you're saying the things that everyone says.
And blessed be with you.
And blessed be with you, brother.
Like, you pass each other in the hallway.
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
And everybody was full of shit.
Like, this is the most disingenuous good to see you.
Instead of saying, hey, what's up?
adam eget
That's such a perfect analogy.
That is, because I was in a cult, I know what it's like to fucking experience that.
joe rogan
Yes, that's why I'm bringing this up.
I want to get to that.
I know your cult story.
adam eget
So that is 99% of the industry, man.
joe rogan
That's why it's such a sad place.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why it's so sad.
adam eget
So lonely.
joe rogan
And you get all that attention.
And believe me, that's what I wanted.
That's why I came here.
I mean, I just figured out along the way what was wrong.
I figured out along the way, like, oh, this is a bad motivation.
This is not a good motivation.
Like, but the best, this is not going to fix you.
You have to fix you.
And then...
Treat what you're doing as an art form and enjoy it.
Instead of treat what you're doing as a method of extracting attention.
Because that's the difference between someone who's an artist, like Gary Clark Jr., versus someone who's just doing a lot of...
Dumb shit to try to get attention and doesn't really have any thought to it.
adam eget
I know exactly what you mean.
And there were a lot of comics that were like that at the Comedy Store that were doing it just to get women and they didn't have any real love for the art form.
joe rogan
They just wanted to be famous.
adam eget
They weren't working on their craft.
They had the same set like you talked about earlier that they've been doing for a decade.
And they were just doing it to try and get women, to try and get money.
joe rogan
They wanted to get famous.
Yeah.
It's just you got to somewhere along the line fix what's wrong with you.
And you can do that and keep growing as a person and keep just fixing what's wrong with you and concentrate on positive things.
That are about this thing.
There's a way to be healthy and still approach it.
And the way to be healthy and approach it is to approach it as an art form.
Don't approach it as a method for getting you attention.
And the problem is it's like set up to chase the attention.
It's set up to chase the sitcom role or the record that you put out or whatever the big thing is, the movie that you get into, the big thing that's supposed to elevate you and define you.
And instead of that, I think if you can, as you're evolving as an artist, reach a point where you're just trying to do your best work.
adam eget
And that must feel so fucking good to reach that point.
joe rogan
You're never really there.
adam eget
To be adjacent at least.
joe rogan
You're chasing it always.
You're running right alongside it, but you can never jump on its back.
adam eget
If you're adjacent to that.
joe rogan
You just keep trying.
It's really a numbers thing in a lot of ways and an attention thing and a focus thing.
People want to say it's a talent thing.
Talent is a weird thing.
For stand-up, you've developed a personality long before you ever thought that it was an asset in a career.
Joey Diaz was just a personality.
You know what I'm saying?
But if you are a regular guy who works In an accounting office.
Can you imagine Joey Diaz at an accounting office?
No, impossible.
But if you're like a real calm guy who's like, I've always enjoyed stand-up comedy, I want to give it a try.
And you go to like these open mic nights and the weeknets, and you meet that savage.
You're like, oh my god, that guy's a real person?
Like, this guy exists too?
Like, I gotta quit now!
That's a different...
That advantage.
He's done some cross-training.
Like getting arrested and kidnapping people and all the coke he did.
adam eget
Solid cross-training.
joe rogan
Comedy cross-training.
Joey Diaz, he'll have such a massive advantage over any normie.
Even if a normie's got really good jokes, he's just...
adam eget
Joey's lived in it.
joe rogan
That personality element is something you can't teach.
You've got to figure that one out.
adam eget
I think that's one of the most important things in stand-up is authenticity.
To me, I feel like that's a huge thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I feel like it's hypnotism.
I really do.
adam eget
I could see that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've always had this idea before I was ever hypnotized.
Then my friend Vinnie Shorman, he's a hypnotist.
He hypnotizes fighters and he hypnotizes people and gets them to work on their game plan, their mindset, and it's a very strange state.
unidentified
Fascinating.
joe rogan
I did it once.
Very strange state.
Very strange.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're there.
You're aware that it's happening.
It's not like...
I've seen hypnotism shows.
There was a guy in Rhode Island named Frank Santos.
He was a comedy hypnotist, and he would do these gigs in Boston.
He was amazing.
adam eget
Yeah, we had a couple that came through Tempe every year.
joe rogan
Yeah, some of them are good, right?
adam eget
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Some of those guys, and there's a certain level of dummy.
That dummy will be convinced he's in Game of Thrones riding a dragon.
There's a certain level of dummy.
And it really, look, for me as a person who's met people like John Carmack, who is the lead programmer of id games, who created Doom and Quake.
adam eget
Oh, yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Super, super genius.
Elon, of course.
Meeting someone like him.
Super, super genius.
And then knowing how dumb some of my friends are.
And I'm like, hmm.
And I'm dumb, too.
But it's like, I'm around him, and I'm like, okay, there's...
I don't think...
I wonder, what is life like to that guy?
I guarantee you he's not looking at shit the way I'm looking at it.
You know, he's looking at...
He's got something...
adam eget
It's like you're looking into the Matrix.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I think there's levels lower than us.
And you get to this level where you can talk a guy into thinking he's having sex...
With Christy Teigen.
He'll really believe that him and Kim Kardashian are having sex.
You can convince those people.
And they even come in their pants.
This guy, Frank Santos, used to make guys nuts in their pants.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up!
joe rogan
No, no, no.
100%, dude.
adam eget
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Get out!
Back then it was Madonna.
I'm not kidding, man.
First of all, the guy was a wizard.
adam eget
What's his number?
joe rogan
Well, he's dead, unfortunately.
Rest his soul.
But his son is doing stand-up, and his son is doing hypnotism shows.
His son has the same name.
But anyway, he would have this show weekly at Stitches.
Stitches was a big comedy club in Boston.
And all the comics, like Fitzsimmons and me, we would go to the back of the room and watch the Frank Santos show all the time.
I was dating a waitress there at the time.
So I'd be there all the time.
So even if I didn't have a set, we'd come down and watch Frank Santos show because it was so ridiculous.
adam eget
Those were always my favorite shows to watch too, except for obviously the greatest comics that would come through.
But yeah, those were always a fun show.
joe rogan
They were ridiculous.
When he gets people to do things and tells them, you're on a bus, and the bus is about to go off the cliff and into the ocean, and you don't know how to swim, people would be screaming.
adam eget
The midnight ones where it was the dirty one, they would always do the dirty show.
One time I saw, it was a couple, and this guy, he convinced this girl she was in a porno.
And they gave her a banana, and she started deep-throating the banana, and the whole crowd was going insane.
And then they got in, like, he, like, Sadly, he beat her up in the parking lot.
What?
Yeah, it wasn't a great ending.
Really?
Yeah, but those shows were always wild.
joe rogan
The guy?
adam eget
Not the hypnotist, her boyfriend.
joe rogan
Oh, the boyfriend, because he was in the audience?
Oh, no.
adam eget
Yeah, because he was with her.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
adam eget
So it wasn't his fault, but that was the last time we did the Midnight Hypnita show.
But what you do on here...
joe rogan
You can't get mad at a woman for expressing her inner and holiness.
adam eget
Yeah, of course not.
joe rogan
You just gotta respect it, who she really is.
adam eget
You do hypnosis here, with this.
I was terrified.
I was really nervous coming in here.
I've been thinking about it ever since you invited me.
I'm like, I'm gonna puke all over the studio.
I lost so much sleep over it.
I've seen it with Stern and now with you.
I don't know what it is.
You do hypnosis almost.
You put everyone at ease.
joe rogan
No, Adam, we're actually friends.
adam eget
I know that, I know that, but...
joe rogan
If we were at dinner, we would talk like this.
adam eget
Yeah, but you have a large audience, like, it's different, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you gotta not think about that.
adam eget
Alright, yeah, fair enough.
joe rogan
That's the thing, if you think about that, that fucks your head up.
adam eget
Right, right, right, right.
joe rogan
Don't think about that.
adam eget
Okay.
joe rogan
Just think about the fact that this is how we would talk, no matter what.
adam eget
This is true.
joe rogan
Right, if we were hanging out in the back bar, the comedy store, and you and me just hanging out in the back there, we would talk just like this.
adam eget
Thank God for Eric creating that back bar.
unidentified
Amazing.
adam eget
You know, that back bar is the best part of the comedy club.
joe rogan
It's amazing and it has the bar that's actually from Mitzi Shore's house.
adam eget
I love that.
How cool is that?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
adam eget
Yeah, that bar's perfect.
It's my one little place to go for solace.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a sweet spot when it doesn't get overrun.
Sometimes it gets overrun.
adam eget
I bring that up on a weekly basis.
That'll be number one on the agenda once we reopen.
joe rogan
People get back there, they're not even comedians.
adam eget
I know, it's a nightmare.
joe rogan
What is happening here?
What is this?
adam eget
I almost prefer them to the open micers.
joe rogan
Yeah, well...
adam eget
Because then they're like asking, bugging people to be on their podcast.
joe rogan
Exactly.
The open micers are tricky because, you know, they all, me included, like I said about Ari, we all started as open micers.
Ari is basically, I think, just starting to do sets, like paid sets probably when he got here.
I wonder when he first started getting paid.
But I started taking him on the road with me.
adam eget
2004?
5?
joe rogan
Something like that.
It was a couple years into his career.
And he was, you know, coming up from being a door guy to getting fairly regular spots.
And he just kept getting better and working at it.
So that day that he was doing his specials, like, I have to be there.
I have to.
I have to.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
I'm like, even if I have to fight.
Like, all of my horrible instincts to run away and fucking...
unidentified
Just...
joe rogan
I had to.
adam eget
Thank God you fucking did.
And thank God they allowed him to film that special in the O.R. Thank God.
Because at first, it took a lot of...
Took a lot of convincing.
I mean, how important that was.
joe rogan
When I pulled into the parking lot that Tuesday night, the night before a special, I was nervous.
Like, nervous to be driving in the back parking lot.
adam eget
Yeah, you took seven years off.
joe rogan
I know, it was weird.
adam eget
It's like going back to your old high school or something.
I don't know.
I can't imagine what that was like.
Going back home from a long, long time away.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Dude, it's contact high.
You can't be in this room.
You're 90 days.
adam eget
It's like if you hadn't returned home for many years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
Seeing your old family.
joe rogan
I'm worried that we're going to lose clubs.
I'm worried we're going to lose restaurants.
I'm worried we're going to lose clubs.
I'm worried we're going to lose everything.
adam eget
Yeah, it's terrifying.
I try not to think about it.
But I think the commie store is going to...
Thank God.
I think the commie store will be okay.
I don't know, man.
I just don't fucking know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know either.
If they don't let us back in soon.
Because it's not even June.
You know, they're talking about July 4th.
Like, what?
What is going to happen over the next month?
adam eget
I don't know.
Yeah, we got to open.
I can't.
I can't anymore.
joe rogan
I'm nervous about the way it's going to reboot.
Like, what's going to happen?
What's it going to be like?
adam eget
You mean in terms of the capacity?
In terms of what?
unidentified
What's going to...
joe rogan
Society.
What's society going to be like?
adam eget
Oh, yeah, just society.
Oh, I don't fucking know.
joe rogan
Like, it's...
The streets are so empty right now.
They're ominous.
And there's this, like, ominous feeling when you're driving around of, like, this is just the beginnings of a volcano.
What's wrong?
That's what it feels like.
adam eget
Look, eventually it seems like they're going to have a vaccine for sure.
I know nothing's definite.
joe rogan
What are you, doctor?
adam eget
No, I don't know.
It sounds like they've had some progress.
Yeah, maybe.
Okay.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, if it was ready, they would give it to us, right?
adam eget
No, yeah.
It's definitely not ready.
joe rogan
And there's talk about it.
There's also talk about something...
Find out what the fuck an mRNA virus is.
We were talking about this with Pac-Man, right?
Oh, fuck me.
adam eget
Do I even want to know?
joe rogan
This is a new kind of a...
Not virus, excuse me.
Vaccine.
Oh, okay.
mRNA vaccine.
So this is some shit that Alex Jones told me about.
And he said it's something that we all have to be very concerned with.
jamie vernon
I just googled it.
joe rogan
So it's something that it's a vaccine that's going to be able to...
It uses your own body to create proteins, right?
Isn't that how it works?
Something along those lines.
I know I'm butchering this, but instead of having a...
Here, does it say?
Okay, scientists produce a synthetic version of the mRNA that a virus uses to build its infectious proteins.
Click on that.
Yeah, see, I'm clearly butchering it, but the idea of it is that it makes your body produce something that protects you from the virus.
Maybe it turns us all into fucking spider-man.
Right?
adam eget
I'm in.
I mean, yeah, I'm fucking in.
joe rogan
When does one of these things not kill us but turn us into gods?
adam eget
It turns us into superheroes.
joe rogan
When do we get to be Dr. Manhattan?
adam eget
Exactly!
I love how you obviously want to be Dr. Manhattan.
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
I just want to be fucking spider-man.
joe rogan
I want to live on Mars and not give a fuck and travel through the universe and have no emotions and be blue and jacked.
adam eget
Because out of all the superheroes, that's the one that you would resemble the most currently.
joe rogan
Well, he's the only superhero if you're going to be a superhero.
Everyone else is basically like a person with some extra things they do.
He's a god.
Dr. Manhattan is like one level below a god.
adam eget
Who was fucking Galactica?
What was Galactica or Galacticus?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
adam eget
He was like a planet.
I don't fucking know.
joe rogan
All those superhero movies man, people who don't enjoy those superhero movies lose my number.
adam eget
Yeah, how could you be that sad?
I don't love all of them, but most of them.
joe rogan
There's a lot of good ones, man.
adam eget
Yeah, they're fun.
joe rogan
Here's Galactus.
adam eget
Galactus.
joe rogan
Galactus.
Originally Galan before its transformation.
Oh, you had a transformation and turned into something.
A single survivor of the universe preceding the Big Bang of the main universe of the Marvel Comics universe.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
With these traits and his appointment of powerful beings as his heralds, formerly the Silver Surfer.
Oh, he used to run the Silver Surfer.
That's right.
adam eget
Okay.
joe rogan
That's right.
adam eget
I just remember him being a Bigfoot.
Look, he's holding a fucking planet.
jamie vernon
He's going to be the next guy that they fight when they probably start up the movies.
unidentified
Oh, no.
adam eget
No way, really?
unidentified
I'm making a guess by itself because it sounds like he's got Thanos power.
joe rogan
Bro, they should bring back the Silver Surfer, man.
I fucking loved the Silver Surfer when I was a kid.
unidentified
Dude, Silver Surfer was badass.
joe rogan
They did it once, but it was kind of weird.
adam eget
And Fantastic Four.
Those weren't great.
joe rogan
There was one Silver Surfer movie, though, wasn't there?
adam eget
Was there a Silver Surfer movie?
I thought it was the Fantastic Four.
I think it was a Fantastic Four Silver Surfer.
joe rogan
I think there was an actual Silver Surfer.
jamie vernon
The Rise of the Silver Surfer.
joe rogan
Fantastic Four, 2007. Oh, so it was a specific episode of The Fantastic Four, The Rise of the Silver Surfer.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it was a sequel to that first with Chris Evans when he was in Captain America.
He was in The Fantastic Four.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
They got to keep everybody together, can't they?
The Silver Surfer have his own shit?
Can't let the Silver Surfer have some fun.
jamie vernon
Michael Chiklis was the thing.
joe rogan
See, but see, there's four.
Four people.
Silver Surfer's five, motherfucker.
Give him his own show.
adam eget
Yeah.
Silver Surfer was so dope.
joe rogan
Oh, he was dope as fuck.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Michael Chiklis.
Is that Captain America?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he was in this.
joe rogan
What was he?
What was he?
Is he Flame?
adam eget
Oh, he's the Flame.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's one of the four guys.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
adam eget
Who the fuck is Mr. Fantastic?
joe rogan
Michael Chiklis was a good thing, too.
You ever watch that cop show that guy was in?
jamie vernon
No, no.
joe rogan
The one afterwards.
adam eget
The Shield?
joe rogan
The Shield.
adam eget
The Shield was great.
joe rogan
The Shield was excellent.
That was an excellent cop show.
That was a really good cop show.
Like, really good.
adam eget
I think it was...
joe rogan
Complicated and...
jamie vernon
Burr Kreischer's not an episode of that.
joe rogan
Is he?
adam eget
Oh, no way.
joe rogan
He's jerking off on people?
adam eget
Of course he is.
Alright, good for him.
joe rogan
That sounds right.
Sounds like what he'd get arrested for.
Yeah, those movies are fun, man.
Like, now more than ever, when shit gets really hard, that's when people want escapism.
That's when something like a comic book movie is the most fun.
adam eget
I went through and I just started watching all the ones I missed because I missed a few.
joe rogan
Bert Kreischer in The Shield.
jamie vernon
Here it is.
adam eget
Oh, no way!
joe rogan
Look, he's beaten up in the alleyway.
unidentified
Oh, fucking Bert!
joe rogan
And they're gonna arrest him for that?
unidentified
Yeah.
No!
joe rogan
Was he beating off in someone's window?
jamie vernon
He's peeping Tom like that.
adam eget
Oh, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
Is that a funny thing that they get you for?
adam eget
Oh, they gotta cuff him out there?
joe rogan
He gives up so easy, too.
Look how easy he gave up.
adam eget
Oh, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
Didn't even try to punch that cop.
One cop.
adam eget
So disrespectful.
That's outstanding.
I love it.
jamie vernon
Silly Bert.
joe rogan
Is that who he was looking at?
That guy fucking?
jamie vernon
I guess.
joe rogan
I don't know.
jamie vernon
Hello.
adam eget
Oh, maybe both of them.
joe rogan
Why are you going to make him stick around?
They're going to make him address her with his hands cuffed behind his back?
And look, they don't even put their clothes on.
They're like, we're going to go back to fucking real quick, so what do you have to do here?
Look at her.
She doesn't even have clothes on.
jamie vernon
Like a TV show.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
But can you imagine like you have to answer the door so quickly you can't even put your clothes on?
You just hold a t-shirt over your tits?
Super normal.
Everybody does that when there's a whole group of people outside your door.
adam eget
Yeah, never in my life.
joe rogan
You say, hold on, I need to get dressed.
Exactly.
Then you can fucking get dressed.
That lady's an animal.
See her?
She's got a towel.
She doesn't even want to tie it on.
She's like, I'm going to let this go because I'm going to fuck soon.
Right?
That's what she looked like.
jamie vernon
You've got to go down at the station.
You've got to put your clothes on.
joe rogan
She's not going anywhere.
adam eget
She doesn't have time for that shit.
joe rogan
She's not going to press charges.
adam eget
No.
You could see it in her eyes.
joe rogan
Get out of here, you creep.
That's a weird one, though, right?
Like, peeping into people's windows is illegal.
But they're glass.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam eget
That's true.
They are transparent.
unidentified
You look right in there.
adam eget
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Seems weird.
adam eget
Bert took it a little too far, maybe.
joe rogan
For sure, he was beaten off.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, like, if you have a window that's facing an alley and someone walks in that alley and they stare in your window, who's the asshole?
adam eget
Yeah, that's a good point.
I think there's a time limit, maybe.
joe rogan
Right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You should count ten Mississippi.
You don't even get the fuck out of there.
adam eget
Probably five Mississippi.
Weird in those people out.
jamie vernon
Yeah, what Rear Window is, that movie, the Hitchcock movie.
adam eget
Yeah, it was a fucking great movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, God.
adam eget
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
He spent the whole fucking movie staring into that guy's apartment with binoculars across the way.
I barely remember that one.
jamie vernon
It's way before my time.
joe rogan
You know what I barely remembered?
adam eget
I think.
joe rogan
I barely remembered.
I watched a little bit of it recently.
It's Psycho.
adam eget
It's great.
I mean, the beginning is great, especially.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's all I watched.
I just watched the shower scene.
Fair enough.
When he puts the wig on, stabs a chick.
Spoiler alert.
It's from 1940. But it's um, it's so, whatever, is that what it was?
adam eget
I think so.
joe rogan
Whatever it was, it was such an, it was so different than any movie you'd ever see today.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like it was so, just the pacing and the suspense.
adam eget
Love it.
joe rogan
It was just different.
adam eget
I used to watch all the old, like, it's like Twilight Zone or the old Hitchcock, Alfred Hitchcock Presents around the same time.
joe rogan
I remember this one.
adam eget
He actually, with Janet Leigh, he made sure that it was ice cold water so that the scream, like he would turn it to make sure that the water was ice cold right when she was getting stabbed.
So those screams are like actual fucking primal screams.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
That sounds very Hitchcockian.
But dude, this was such a crazy thing.
A naked lady washing herself off.
Look at her in ecstasy.
This was like erotica.
adam eget
Yeah, and then there's two different shots.
joe rogan
This is why it's so scary.
adam eget
Groundbreaking.
joe rogan
Because you're in love with her.
You're like, I wish I was there to wash your hair.
adam eget
Like, oh fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like, if you're a guy and you're sad, this...
adam eget
Just insane.
joe rogan
Oh, this is so crazy.
adam eget
Oh, and then that shot.
Yeah, you like see her.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This was such a crazy movie.
This scene was so insane.
adam eget
Whoa.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so insane, dude.
Ugh.
adam eget
Wow, yeah, it still holds up like a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, it holds up.
It's masterful in that you don't see anything gory, but you're still horrified and flinching while it's happening.
adam eget
Yeah, like Reservoir Dogs when Mr. Blonde cuts off the cop's ear.
joe rogan
Yeah, but even more fucked up because you were in love with her and you were just going to wash her hair.
adam eget
It's 1960. Yeah, you didn't want to wash her hair.
joe rogan
You wanted to wash her hair.
You wanted to help her.
jamie vernon
You guys are saying this holds up.
When I saw The Exorcist in the theater when they re-released it after the 25th anniversary, me and my friends were hilariously laughing at some of the scenes because people had built it up so long our whole lives.
adam eget
Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon
It was the scariest thing ever.
And she's running down the stairs backwards and she pees on herself.
We just thought it was...
adam eget
Hilarious.
jamie vernon
I mean, we've seen Scream.
Those aren't scary either, but that's what our generation's scary movies were.
It was just wild how funny this stuff was.
adam eget
I remember that the first one I ever saw as a kid was The Shining, and that still holds up.
That still holds up.
joe rogan
That's an interesting one, right?
Because Stephen King didn't like it.
adam eget
Yeah, that makes sense because it is wildly different from...
It's a huge departure from the novel.
So I can imagine if you're an artist and then someone takes your artwork and they completely change it in many different ways.
joe rogan
They changed it a bunch of ways, but they kept it a bunch of ways, too.
It became like a collaboration between him and Kubrick because it was clearly his original idea.
But he wanted, I believe, Stephen King wanted that character to go crazy.
He didn't want him to have this fucking edge, like, right from the beginning.
Like, Jack Nicholson had an edge, like, right from the beginning and then became insane.
And then, you know, became...
adam eget
Well, I know what it's like, yeah, to be an alcoholic who just stopped drinking.
And I think you have that edge almost from the get-go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
A little bit.
But, I mean, Jack's Jack.
joe rogan
That movie was so good.
adam eget
It was top 10 all-time fave for me.
joe rogan
That's what's crazy.
It's like someone needed to tell Stephen King, like, I know it wasn't the same thing, but goddamn it was good.
It was so good.
Dude, when those little girls are in the hallway and the fucking blood's coming out of the elevator, holy shit, that's a good movie.
adam eget
So many great moments.
I love it.
joe rogan
And back then when it came out, like people don't understand.
Like The Shining is like, what is that?
82 or something like that?
adam eget
1980, I think.
joe rogan
Is it?
adam eget
I think so.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
So 1980. People, you've got to understand.
We're talking about a whole different world.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no special effects.
If there are there, they're not very good.
They're all like clunky.
Yeah, yeah.
adam eget
Empire Strikes Back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But that's it.
It's clunky.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
The special effects are clunky.
I guess Empire Strikes Back is pretty fucking dope.
adam eget
And then Alien was 79. That's right.
joe rogan
All right.
unidentified
But that's it.
joe rogan
My argument's falling apart.
adam eget
Blade Runner was 82. So there's really not much else, though.
There is a lot of clunky.
joe rogan
So they did this movie with just all of the different crazy moments, like that bathroom moment with the axe coming through the door.
There were so many of those moments.
The moment with the old lady.
adam eget
Because Kubrick was a fucking master at Creating suspense and and using the sets and the color contrast like just the the the color patterns are Unsettling and the fact that he used those twins weren't exactly they weren't twins There were just little differences that makes it unsettling.
unidentified
There's so many different ways Do you know he used to do complex mathematics for fun?
joe rogan
That's how what a genius.
He was a trippy dude by far I think the greatest director of all time Well, he definitely is one of them, and one of the most unique ones.
You know, there's a crazy conspiracy theory connected to the shining and the moon landing.
adam eget
Yeah, I heard about the moon landing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all about the number on the door is the exact same amount of thousands of miles.
It's 237, and it's 237,000 miles away.
I heard that.
By the way, it varies.
See, that's the problem with that argument, is that the distance between the Earth and the moon is not constant.
I think it moves a little bit.
So I think it goes as far as 265,000 feet out, or miles, rather.
265,000 miles out, and it goes to 237. But I think it varies.
I think it goes like this.
I think it has like an elliptical orbit around the Earth a little bit.
Maybe I made that up.
Is that true?
jamie vernon
Sounds accurate.
Sorry, I was in the middle of reading the 237 stuff.
adam eget
Yeah, I heard it was also possibly about Native Americans, how the hotel was built on an ancient Indian burial ground, and even Shelley Duvall sort of looked Native American.
You could hear Native American music playing in the opening credits.
joe rogan
I wouldn't be surprised if there was many layers to it.
adam eget
Yeah, he's just a brilliant man.
He was a brilliant, brilliant man.
joe rogan
The little kid did have an Apollo 11 sweatshirt on.
adam eget
Yeah, that's true.
unidentified
He did have an Apollo 11. I mean, that's pretty on the nose.
adam eget
I just remember in the back room, in the stock room, there was like a can of a product with a giant, it was like Geronimo's head on there.
I'm sure.
joe rogan
Dude, there's so much to that.
There's probably many layers.
I mean, Kubrick is not going to operate on one layer.
adam eget
No.
joe rogan
He's probably going to have a bunch of weird shit in there.
adam eget
I mean, look at 2001. What a mindfuck.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
What a mindfuck.
Well, there was so much of his work.
You know, and he's the guy that the conspiracy theorists, when they get the most crazy, when they really want to dive into who did it, they think it was all Kubrick.
Kubrick literally filmed the fake moon landing, uploaded it to the American TV satellites.
adam eget
If anyone could do it, it'd be him.
He'd be the guy I would get to do it.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if that was really what happened in all these years?
adam eget
I remember hearing all the fucking conspiracy theorists about the Illuminati killing him because he made...
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they were worried he was going to open his fucking mouth.
Tell about the moon landing.
adam eget
Oh, no.
joe rogan
That's what it was.
unidentified
No, because he made fucking eyes wide shut.
joe rogan
That too.
That was his last one.
They're like, enough.
This guy's getting too close.
adam eget
Because I think he died like a week after that movie came out.
joe rogan
Of course he did.
adam eget
That's fucked up.
joe rogan
That's how they roll.
People used to think nobody really rolled that way until this Jeffrey Epstein shit.
And they're like, oh, what?
adam eget
It's shocking.
This is the first really, truly eye-opening one like this.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, that's an Alex Jones one, too.
Alex Jones was talking about that way before anybody was.
He called it way before, and he said, there's this service, and they take these elites, and they bring them to this place, and they have sex with underage girls.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
And everybody was like, no fucking way.
That sounds like science fiction.
And then you realize, like...
Oh, this is 100% true, and nobody was talking about it.
100% true.
adam eget
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's insane.
It's insane.
It's so weird.
And then the guy gets suicided.
The guy's in jail, going to trial, and they're like, well, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
And they're like, we're all somewhere in the 1940s again.
Breaking news!
adam eget
That's just in.
joe rogan
Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide today.
100% convinced it was not fishy business.
adam eget
I remember Diaz telling me in the parking lot like a week before that happened, he's like, this guy's not going to try it.
They're killing this fucking guy.
joe rogan
Authorities do not suspect foul play.
Jeffrey Epstein, Filthy Rich, what is that?
New documentary?
jamie vernon
It comes out the 27th.
It's based off of James Patterson's book, which came out a couple years ago.
adam eget
That's going to get a lot of views.
joe rogan
I've been into these Jack Carr books.
Have you ever read any Jack Carr shit?
Jack Carr has...
Three books, and he's working on his fourth one now, and it's all about, it's like, they're thrillers, but like, there's espionage and political shit going on in there, and the main protagonist- Clancy?
I don't know, I've never read Clancy, but the main guy is a Navy SEAL, and there's all this crazy shit that happens in all these stories, but in a lot of them, you go, wow, like, I used to think that something like this is preposterous, that people are just making up this idea that people would conspire to do evil, creepy shit all over the world and do it to make money and sacrifice people's lives.
But as I've gotten older, I'm like, oh, that's probably way closer to what's really going on.
adam eget
Probably.
joe rogan
Like that's probably way closer.
adam eget
Yep.
joe rogan
It probably is like that when the guy like Epstein gets arrested and then gets suicided and then everybody's like, well, too bad.
Guess he's dead.
There's no Senate hearings.
They're not standing in front of the TV every day going, what happened?
One of the most important witnesses ever.
How could the cameras not be working?
unidentified
You didn't check?
I love that.
adam eget
Tim Dillon did that.
Oh, he's so good at that shit.
Oh, Tim Dillon's amazing.
He's my favorite.
joe rogan
He's, uh, out of all the young, wild guys coming up, he's the most wild.
adam eget
Definitely.
joe rogan
He's the most wild.
adam eget
And consistently brilliant.
Yeah.
He's fucking funny as shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, Schultz is very wild, too.
unidentified
He's great.
joe rogan
Andrew Schultz, very wild, too.
adam eget
He impresses me.
joe rogan
He goes for it.
He goes for it.
I wish he lived in LA. He takes some risky turns.
He takes some risky turns.
adam eget
Yeah, he sure does.
joe rogan
Tim Dillon does too.
That fucking Meghan McCain thing is the single greatest impression I've ever seen.
Ever.
unidentified
You want to fuck these kids though?
joe rogan
Apparently she blocked him, which made it even better.
adam eget
I love the way he says, what's her name?
Ocasio Cortez.
joe rogan
Oh, now he's dressed as a coronavirus.
adam eget
Oh, this was good.
joe rogan
Did you hear he did a rant about cruise ships on this podcast?
adam eget
That was great.
He did another great rant today or yesterday, a fucking solid one.
joe rogan
Every time there's something going on with cruise ships, I send it to him now.
We have this back and forth on just cruise ship shit.
adam eget
I still say the most dangerous comic right now who will say whatever the fuck he wants is still Holtzman.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
adam eget
That guy has balls.
joe rogan
He's always been buck wild.
I always quote Holtzman's thing about there was a lady who drowned her kids back in the day.
Yeah, I remember that.
And he goes, ladies and gentlemen...
I heard those are bad kids.
I mean, he's doing this like a week after.
This fucking lady drowned her baby.
He's like, they sat that close to the TV! They didn't put away their blocks!
Those kids will not be missed!
They spilt their milk!
We were like, oh no.
After 9-11, Mitzi went and put him up.
adam eget
Oh, I mean...
joe rogan
He's like, you can't come up yet!
Let me up, Mitzi!
He's like, no!
adam eget
He was so funny at Mitzi's memorial.
He would just say the most fucking horrible shit and then list off a bunch of random tour dates.
unidentified
He's like, August 3rd, August 4th, I'll be at the Yuck Yucks in Montreal.
joe rogan
Have you seen his Instagram?
adam eget
Thank God it's Wednesday.
I'm here at the In-N-Out Burger.
Thank God it's Wednesday.
joe rogan
He does some sketch with some lady at a Thai food place near his house.
adam eget
Oh, so funny.
unidentified
You seen that?
adam eget
Yeah, that's the best.
unidentified
And she's singing in Vietnamese and he's like interpreting or something.
joe rogan
He's a staple.
adam eget
He's a wild man.
joe rogan
He's a staple.
adam eget
Yeah, he really is.
joe rogan
And he's a guy that wouldn't exist any other place.
There's something about the crazy darkness of the store that helps a guy like that.
adam eget
We're putting him a lot in the documentary, so hopefully we get a lot of eyes on him.
I'm really excited about that.
joe rogan
I've always said the way to do a special with him is just to film him for like a month.
adam eget
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Let him do all of his sets for like a month and piece it together.
adam eget
We let him go for an hour, and we got a lot of good material with Holtzman.
joe rogan
There's a thing where it's the end of the night, you did your show, and then you're leaving the back bar, and you gotta go take a leak, and you go take a leak, and then you hear, What the fuck did I just say to you?
And you're like, oh my god, Holtzman's in...
You walk in there, there's like eight other people.
You sit down.
adam eget
Holtzman embarrassed at the end of the night.
It's a staple.
joe rogan
Microphone always in the stand.
adam eget
Ugh, so funny.
Oh my god, and he's always...
He's very Dangerfield, very Rodney.
joe rogan
Well, his look, too, is very old-timey.
Like, he's from another era.
adam eget
Tucked-in shirt.
joe rogan
And he behaves like that too, like these fucking kids today.
adam eget
I love it.
Yeah, there's nothing better than late night at the store.
Don Barris, Holtzman, used to be Brody.
joe rogan
You know what I always say about that place?
I think there's a real argument for objects collecting energy.
Put on your woo-woo.
Hold on your crystals because we're gonna talk sister.
I think there's some real power in objects and I think when you're around objects and you have fun, like if you are in that room, that comedy store, that room is like an encasing.
adam eget
It's like a vessel.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's an encasing of these moments.
There's something in the walls.
Like, there's so many laughs have been had in that room.
There's something in the wall.
adam eget
Yeah, I remember closing up.
joe rogan
Part of it's psychological that you're thinking about it.
Here I am.
I'm thinking about, you know, this is...
But part of it's the seasoning.
It's like a frying pan that you've used a bunch of times.
It's like there's seasoning in that place.
adam eget
I've never seen...
That's a perfect way to describe it, seasoning.
I've never seen any ghosts.
I'm very skeptical of that kind of thing.
joe rogan
Super skeptical.
adam eget
But I'm telling you, I would close up that club by myself every night at 3 or 4 in the morning.
For five years and I didn't feel great about closing up by myself at night.
Like going up to the belly room and shutting up all the fucking lights?
joe rogan
Yes.
adam eget
Fuck that shit.
joe rogan
That's the room.
adam eget
Very Outlook Hotel.
It's like the Overlook Hotel.
It's like The Shining.
joe rogan
The belly room for me is the one that freaks me out.
And also it's because it's connected to all these corridors.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like this room there.
adam eget
And the mirrors and shit.
joe rogan
And you go upstairs there.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then over there is the little green room.
It's like everything's dark.
adam eget
It's like a haunted house.
What's going to jump out at you?
unidentified
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
And then over there's a stairway to get downstairs into the hallway.
Yeah.
And then there's the doorway to the outside.
Sometimes that would slam.
adam eget
Yeah.
So many different entrances and exits.
joe rogan
I feel like, I don't know how many people have been killed in that building.
I don't know how many people have been killed in that building.
adam eget
Many.
joe rogan
But I think they killed a fuckload of them in that room upstairs.
adam eget
Yeah, I'll bet.
joe rogan
That room upstairs is the one that gets me.
I think they did the murder probably in the basement, no?
adam eget
I guess that makes sense.
Yeah, that would make sense.
I heard that as well about the basement.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But that room gives me the creeps.
The basement gives me the creeps a little bit, too.
adam eget
It used to before they fucking converted it into a podcast studio.
joe rogan
Now it gives you more of the creeps.
I did Argus' show down there.
Super creeps.
No, that was fun.
adam eget
There you will about Argus, man.
I love that guy.
He always kills.
He's constantly writing new material.
It's always solid.
He's fucking good.
joe rogan
He's very good.
And I also like his style with the dark room, the spotlight.
We did spots together, which I'm usually not in the same time as him, like right before him or after him.
But we did them back-to-back once, and I was like, Damn, it's really good material.
It's tight.
And a lot of it is like things that are happening right now.
Like things that are current in the news.
And he had great bits on them.
adam eget
He's great.
joe rogan
Like a really, really sharp writer.
adam eget
He's perfect to go up right there.
Second on the line.
joe rogan
Yeah, he gets everything popping.
adam eget
Except the tone for the rest of the night.
joe rogan
I just love the fact that he loves it so much.
adam eget
Yeah, he fucking can't get enough of it.
joe rogan
He's been doing it forever.
adam eget
45 years.
joe rogan
But he still loves it.
Yeah.
You ever see him jogging?
adam eget
Yes, I have.
joe rogan
Super addicted to jogging.
adam eget
He can't get enough of that either.
Yeah, seven miles a day, twice a day, I heard.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's...
adam eget
That's insane.
I saw him one time outside at a grocery store.
It's like seeing your teacher out of school.
It was off-putting.
joe rogan
And he jogs into Hollywood, which is even weirder.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, he's like, fuck a gym.
I'm just going to use the road.
There's something about those people, right?
When you're in your neighborhood and someone just is using your neighborhood like a gym.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, there's something weird about that.
Shouldn't you go run where people run?
Like, why are you running where people drive?
Yeah.
But it's a thing that people do, man.
adam eget
Drown?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Like in New York City, there's always people that are using the city as their gym.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're just running.
Like, everybody else is walking, and these people are exercising.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's fucking weird.
adam eget
Argus even has a bit about that.
unidentified
Does he?
adam eget
Yeah, he says, you see a guy on a bicycle in LA, that guy's working out.
You see a guy on a bicycle in Dallas, Texas, he's got DUI. It's true.
joe rogan
It's a pretty good Argus impression, too.
adam eget
It's okay.
joe rogan
It's not bad.
This is a little bit of slang, too.
adam eget
Where's he from?
Oklahoma.
joe rogan
Oh, there you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam eget
I've heard some great Argus stories over the years.
Like, you know, just him and all the history with Mitzi and the Shores.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
Love Argus.
We all love Argus.
joe rogan
No, it's a great place, man.
Argus's a great guy.
It's a great place.
There's so many good people there.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just when?
When?
adam eget
I say July.
I think July.
joe rogan
What do we do if this fuck says no?
What if he says January 1st?
adam eget
I think we all move to Austin.
joe rogan
We all become Trump fans.
We gotta get the president involved.
Kiss his ass.
adam eget
We all fucking shoot up.
We all shoot up with some fucking Lysol and walk down to Austin.
joe rogan
We don't require much, Mr. Trump.
adam eget
Just open the fucking comedy store, please.
joe rogan
Open the store, please.
Just do what you gotta do.
Open comedy clubs up.
You got our support.
Why isn't it an essential business?
adam eget
It seems like it should be.
It's certainly more essential than some of the other fucking businesses.
joe rogan
Think about how much different is the contact, the close proximity to contact that you get if you were in a comedy show versus if you were in line at a store and you're handing a cashier your money and they're giving you money back and you're looking at it, you're touching hands.
Yeah, exactly.
adam eget
Yeah, you're face to face.
joe rogan
Yeah, the guy who's bagging your shit.
He's bagging it inches from you.
He's putting it in the thing.
He hands it to you.
Thank you.
You pass by someone here.
You pass by someone there as you're leaving.
You're doing that shit all the time.
adam eget
Seems pretty simple to me.
You take the forehead temperature, make sure everybody enforce the masks.
Separate by table, you know, take out half the fucking tables and call it a day.
unidentified
Here's what's crazy.
joe rogan
People don't even want you talking about this, Adam.
adam eget
I know.
joe rogan
This is what's weird about it.
They get mad if you talk about it.
If you even come up with solutions.
If you even have a perspective other than what's going on right now exactly.
That's not good.
adam eget
No, it's not great.
joe rogan
That's not good.
No one knows what the fuck is the right thing to do here, right?
adam eget
Yeah.
Look, as much as I love Korean baseball, I want to go to work.
I want to go back to work.
joe rogan
Exactly.
adam eget
Fuck this.
I'm sick of it, man.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
Come on, Garcetti.
adam eget
Hear us.
Hear us.
joe rogan
Hear us, Eric.
Just keep...
If people want to be quarantined, let them be quarantined.
But don't make everybody be quarantined.
adam eget
Yeah, no more mandated.
joe rogan
You've got to destroy everything everybody's worked for in terms of their businesses.
adam eget
That's hard.
And I mean, honestly, that is heartbreaking.
joe rogan
It is heartbreaking.
And every day that it goes on, it gets more and more severe.
adam eget
I'm more for safety and health and all that shit.
But I think just like everything else in the world, we need balance.
We need to really think about this and come up with some solutions and not just say no.
joe rogan
I don't like the narrative, particularly in this case, because it's not what we thought it was going to be in terms of the fatality rate.
I don't like the narrative that you're protecting people.
That you have to listen to them because it's protecting other people.
I don't like that narrative.
I don't think there's only one way to protect people.
Another way to protect people would be isolate those people.
And don't pretend that you can't do that.
Because if you can shut down the whole world, you can isolate the vulnerable.
You can't.
You did a monumental thing already.
The most monumental thing really ever.
Told people to stop working and they did.
Most of the world stopped working for a couple months.
It's pretty crazy.
adam eget
Pretty wild.
joe rogan
But then you're saying you can do that, but you can't figure out how to isolate people that are vulnerable.
Yeah.
And give people the opportunity to make their own decisions.
You let them fucking go dirt bike riding.
Right.
You let them do backflips with motorcycles.
People do a lot of wild shit.
Nobody has a problem with that.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if you tell them that they can't go out and possibly get themselves infected because they'll infect somebody else.
Like educate people.
Educate people, and if they do do it anyway, that fucking piece of shit, they were probably gonna put people in danger in some other way.
They're probably drunk driving their mom.
You know, it's probably an asshole.
It's like, you gotta be cognizant of the vulnerable people for sure, but you also have to give people the opportunity To earn a living.
adam eget
To not be homeless and fucking hungry.
joe rogan
If they're willing to risk being sick, you've got to give them the opportunity to do that.
unidentified
I'm all for that.
joe rogan
And you've got to give them the education to help them get over that cold, to help them keep that virus from getting to them with all the precautions that everybody's using every day anyway.
adam eget
Yeah, the structure to make sure that they're as safe as possible.
joe rogan
Exactly.
adam eget
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
But people don't even like that you're talking about it.
adam eget
Oh my god, that's insane.
joe rogan
They're angry.
They're so angry at them.
adam eget
Me personally, specifically?
joe rogan
Yeah, you right now, because you already talked about it.
You talked about it with me.
You definitely got a secondhand high.
adam eget
I probably did.
joe rogan
Yeah, you did.
adam eget
How do you know?
I could tell.
joe rogan
You got just a touch.
unidentified
Just a touch.
joe rogan
It's the perfect amount.
Yeah, like if you're an alcoholic and you hang out with people who drink, it doesn't do a goddamn thing for you.
adam eget
No, nothing.
unidentified
Nothing at all.
joe rogan
But if you're a smoker and you decide to take a little time off and you're around people that smoke weed, you catch a breeze.
I remember I did a show with Tripoli in Toronto.
They have this underground Tripoli.
adam eget
That's all I got.
joe rogan
Lizard people!
We did the show at that underground place in Toronto that's all weed.
Do you know about that place?
It's the most preposterous show you've ever done in your life.
unidentified
You're just hotboxing the fuck out of everybody.
joe rogan
They had bongs on the table.
It was insane.
I was just looking out at a cloud.
There was a cloud in front of you.
You could barely see.
With the spotlight and then all the smoke in the room, you barely saw what was going on.
And you were so high.
There was no air.
It was all weed.
There was no air left.
The candles were running on weed smoke.
There was no air in the room.
adam eget
Fuck that.
joe rogan
It was all just weed smoke.
So Tripoli didn't even smoke anything, but 10 minutes into his act, he forgot where he was.
adam eget
Of course he did.
joe rogan
He was on another planet.
Yeah, that's a problem with Texas.
They don't let you have the weed.
adam eget
Oh.
Oh, really?
In Austin?
joe rogan
I think you have to.
Statewide thing?
jamie vernon
What is the – do you have to have AIDS? They have some CBD laws, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, they let you have CBD, right?
jamie vernon
I just was Googling earlier.
They have some talk of potentially passing laws for recovery from lost money, legalizing it.
joe rogan
What I've found out of doing my Texas studies, because I have been doing research, is Austin in particular is a very interesting combination of liberal folks and conservative folks.
Like red Texas, and then blue Austin, and then a lot of blue stuff.
That's going on, and then the governor doesn't want them to do certain things, and the governor doesn't want them shutting down construction sites, but the city of Austin is more blue.
adam eget
Yeah, it's like the black sheep kid.
joe rogan
Austin police will stop arrest tickets in most low-level marijuana cases after unanimous city council vote.
What does that mean, though?
Maybe we'll let you go.
Most.
We'll let it go.
Most low-level cases.
Most of them.
Most of them.
What kind of a law is that?
How do you have that even open to interpretation?
Most.
Do you let people go if they only have a joint?
Most of the time.
Sometimes.
I fuck them.
What does that mean?
Most.
Just let them go.
Say it's just weed, you fucks.
Jesus.
adam eget
I love Austin.
joe rogan
But the problem is you don't get a place as fiercely independent as Texas, as buck wild as Texas without all that other stuff, too.
adam eget
Austin, it's like the artist colony of Texas.
joe rogan
But the people that are right-wing Texas think Austin's gonna fuck it up for everybody.
The mayor's fucking up.
It's interesting.
It's interesting to see the little battle that's going on because people want to keep it the way it is.
They know it's special.
And they're worried that the liberals are going to fuck it up and the liberals are worried that the Trumpers are going to fuck it up.
adam eget
Right, and isn't Austin's thing, isn't their motto, keep Austin weird?
joe rogan
No, that's only losers who sell t-shirts at the airport.
adam eget
Well, that's all I really hang out with when I go to Austin.
I just hang out at the airport.
joe rogan
Those keep something weird.
They're the grossest of all t-shirts.
adam eget
I couldn't agree more.
joe rogan
They're the baby on board of t-shirts.
You know?
Fuck out of here with that.
So ridiculous.
Keep Austin weird.
Shut up.
You're not weird.
It has a TM at the bottom of it.
It's the last thing.
adam eget
You're giving Austin a bad name.
joe rogan
No, Austin's great.
That t-shirt sucks.
adam eget
No, I'm saying that the Keep Austin weird people are giving Austin a bad name.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
I thought you were accusing me.
adam eget
I got defensive.
No, not at all.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
So, oh, we didn't even talk about your cult, dude.
adam eget
Oh, all right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we forgot.
adam eget
We have time?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
adam eget
All right, good.
joe rogan
We have plenty of time.
adam eget
I don't even know where to fucking begin.
joe rogan
So...
When did you first become part of the cult?
adam eget
So I got sent away to this cult.
It was like a cult boarding school.
joe rogan
How old were you?
adam eget
I was 14. I just turned 14 in 1994. Did your parents know what was going on or did they think?
No, they had no idea.
joe rogan
What did they think it was?
adam eget
They heard it was a place for troubled kids to get some help.
And then...
Yeah, they had no idea it was a cult.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
No idea.
joe rogan
So what was it?
Does it have a name?
adam eget
Yeah, it's called CEDU. It's C-E-D-U. And they called it that because you could see yourself how you want to be, and then you'd do something about it.
joe rogan
Damn, that sounds like something that Tony Robbins would say.
adam eget
I think it was created originally from something called Synanon, which I think is more well-known.
joe rogan
That sounds like some cheesy, not Tony Robbins, but like a low-level, online, motivational guy?
adam eget
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
What you do is see, and then do.
joe rogan
Sounds so simple, and it is for you.
You're gonna see what you don't like, and you're gonna do something about it.
Everybody's like, oh my god.
adam eget
Thanks for being here at the Hilton in Alhambra.
joe rogan
So this is pre-internet.
You're 14 years old.
adam eget
Yeah.
1993. I was a big cutter.
I was living in Tarzana.
I grew up in Tarzana.
Big cutter.
joe rogan
What was that about?
adam eget
I don't know.
joe rogan
Were your friends doing it?
adam eget
No, no.
I was doing it.
My dad left, and then I started cutting.
And then I was getting into fights at school, and I was punching holes in my wall.
I was an angry kid, and so it was sort of an outlet, I guess.
And then they kept sending me up to the Northridge psych ward.
So I got sent away up to Northridge in the youth psych ward.
joe rogan
What did they say about you?
adam eget
I don't remember specifically what they said.
I think they just told my parents.
They didn't tell me anything.
I think they told my parents probably.
joe rogan
And your parents didn't let you have a sit down with you and say, hey, psycho.
adam eget
After the third time.
joe rogan
Look what the doctor says.
adam eget
My mom didn't know what to do with me, but after the third time I got sent up to the psych ward, they said, if you do this one more time, anything else, we're going to have to send you away somewhere more serious, probably.
unidentified
Whoa.
adam eget
And so, I did it again, and then we took a tour up to, they said we were just going to go up to take a tour of this school that I could be sent away to.
That was it.
They said, if you do it one more time, we're going up and we're going to tour this school.
And if you do this one more time, then we're going to bring you back here and drop you off.
You're going to stay there.
And so we went up to the San Bernardino Mountains and we got out of the car.
I toured the campus.
It was a beautiful campus.
It was like this giant cabin up near Lake Arrowhead.
And it used to be owned by the Houstons, you know, Walter and Angelica and John Houston.
And they were telling me, you know, just about the school and stuff and all the rules.
There were a lot of rules.
They called them agreements.
And then my parents, I came back and went and talked to my parents and they told me that I was staying there.
And I just said, well, fuck you.
And then I left and...
And they strip-searched me, and that was it.
Then I went into what they call a rap, and raps are intense.
So the rap was this three-hour-long, kind of like a group therapy session, but everyone is just sort of...
Oh my god, it was so bizarre.
So I had only been at the school two hours.
I'd just been strip searched and I'd been put into one of these three-hour wraps and the girl next to me was like rocking back and forth on the chair, sort of like sobbing quietly.
And then the kid next to me got up, walked across the room and switched seats with someone because you weren't allowed to talk to someone next to you.
You had to be across the room.
And that kid started screaming at the kid right next to me over here.
And then this one just started screaming at the floor and started screaming at the floor like, I hate you mom, I hate you dad.
And then someone started putting all this Kleenex, all these tissues, and I'm like, why are they putting all these fucking tissues here?
And then you just see all this snot and spit and mucus empty out of this girl's body.
Because she's just screaming and like blood vessels are popping and she's crying and screaming and it was the most disgusting thing you've ever seen.
And I was like, oh my god, I'm going to be here for two and a half years and this is going to happen three times a week.
There was a lot of sleep deprivation.
joe rogan
What did your parents think it was?
adam eget
They were told by the counselors at the psych ward that it was like a place for troubled kids when you didn't know what else to do with them.
joe rogan
So the psych ward was in on it?
adam eget
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
Do you think they were fooled?
joe rogan
Or do you think that they knew what was going on?
adam eget
I think that maybe they were fooled.
I think they were probably fooled.
I don't think anybody really knew.
joe rogan
This is pre-internet, right?
adam eget
Yeah, this is all pre-internet.
joe rogan
It'd probably be easier to fool people because you can't do a wiki on them.
adam eget
Yeah.
I mean, the government finally shut them down.
joe rogan
So they were accredited, though, or something.
adam eget
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
I mean, they were approved by.
adam eget
Yeah.
It had been, you know, around...
CEDA was there for, I think, since the 70s, I want to say.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
adam eget
Maybe even earlier.
Maybe the late 60s.
joe rogan
That's the scary ones.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
The ones with legs.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
adam eget
But it was a really weird mix of students.
It was like, I think Paris Hilton went there at one point, and then there was like, just a lot of kids there on court orders, and there was, you know, it was just a real mix, weird mix of people.
joe rogan
Wow.
adam eget
But they had these 24-hour, what they called profites, and they were all named after a different chapter of the book called The Prophet by Khalil Gibran.
joe rogan
Dude, I have to pee so bad.
I'm going to stop you right here because I can't.
I was like, I'm going to hang on to this.
I'll be fine.
But I drank three cups of coffee before I got here.
Hopefully.
I'm sorry.
We'll be right back, folks.
Okay.
Sorry.
We're back.
You were saying something about the Prophet based on the Khalil Gibran.
How do you say that?
adam eget
Khalil Gibran.
joe rogan
Gibran.
adam eget
Yeah.
It was...
They have these things called profites.
So you go through the program with a peer group.
So everybody that was enrolled at the same time as you in the same like two months, you go through these almost like these rites of passages called prophets.
And there were these 24-hour long workshops.
And they're all based around each chapter of this book called The Prophet.
And the first one was called The Truth.
And it was like the truth will set you free.
So you basically tell everything you've ever done that you felt bad about.
And it's like confession almost.
And what was odd is that all the staff members were – there were like two or three staff members who were the counselors at the school.
They had no real credentials.
They weren't like therapists, but they acted as therapists.
But they all had fucked up lives too.
Of course.
And so some of them, like there were people that really got off on the power, like many cult leaders do.
And then there were some that were former students there that were sent away for being bad kids.
So there were staff members like...
Confessing to...
I heard one guy said, claimed that he set a homeless guy on fire.
Another one would strangle cats.
And they're like, these are the fucking people that are teaching us?
joe rogan
You had to fall asleep around a dude who used to strangle cats?
adam eget
No, you couldn't fall asleep in the proffeets.
Oh, right.
joe rogan
I mean, eventually.
adam eget
I mean, I think they lived off campus.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
That sounds insane.
adam eget
Yeah, it was pretty wild.
joe rogan
They all have that element in them.
That's a Scientology element too, right?
And then also Catholicism.
You have to confess.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
There's a thing that Scientology does where they go over all sorts of aspects of your life and they save that.
adam eget
Yeah, I save that in the monster.
joe rogan
They save all those recordings.
And then when you want to talk shit, they're like, oh, well, you thinking about leaving?
adam eget
How fascinating.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We're going to tell everybody about that thing that you do with clowns.
adam eget
I wonder why they would do it here then, because we had no power to, like, we're all underage.
joe rogan
Well, that's a different organization.
What they're doing is probably getting power over you.
I mean, it seems like that's what those things are always about.
They're always about power, and it's usually the main dude's banging everybody's wife.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
They get a lot of money.
adam eget
The teachers, there were teachers that were for sure banging the students.
There's no doubt about it.
joe rogan
Look, if a guy can lie about what he does for a living and get laid, they'll do it.
There's a certain percentage of guys that will do it.
If they can lie and control people, they'll do that too.
Like, it's just different levels of douchebaggery.
Right.
Do you get to that cult leader level?
adam eget
This is like the big boss.
Yeah, it's just like everything else, man.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
joe rogan
It's like levels, there's levels of where people can, you know, they can control people in the strangest ways and get people, like the Hale-Bopp comet people.
adam eget
Oh, yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
They cut their balls off.
That was a big part of it, like releasing yourself from your sexuality.
adam eget
I don't remember that part of the fucking story.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam eget
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, the main guy cut his balls off and he encouraged others to cut their balls off as well to free themselves from the confines of sexual lust.
adam eget
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you remember that guy?
Remember what he looked like?
adam eget
I remember exactly what he looked like.
He almost looked like Mr. Magoo without the glasses.
Yeah, there he is.
Oh, Magoo, you've done it again.
joe rogan
So you don't have to have a good hustle to start a cult.
That's not a good hustle.
That's a terrible hustle.
But you need to have a hustle that works good on dumb people.
And that's the difference.
Just like the guy when Frank Santos used to do his hypnotism acts as stitches, there was a guy that would come in his pants.
He would do different things different times.
He'd make things up.
He had a bunch of different things he would do.
But I remember one of them, he's like, this was when Madonna was hot.
He was telling this guy that he's having sex with Madonna.
It might have been Janet Jackson, someone like that.
Someone very popular at the time.
Someone hot and popular.
And then he's like, you're gonna, oh my goodness, you're gonna pop.
And the kid's like, oh, the kid comes.
And you're like, I don't believe this!
We're all looking at each other, and Greg was like, for sure he came.
I'm like, for sure!
That guy just came!
That guy came, and he looks all embarrassed, and he's looking around, confused.
He's not a good actor, he's just a moron.
There's certain things that some guys can do to really dumb people where they can sink into their brain.
But stand-up is similar to that, but not, not, not really.
It's similar to hypnosis.
That kind of hypnosis is weird hypnosis.
It only works on really moronic people.
adam eget
Very susceptible.
joe rogan
Yeah, just vulnerable people, man.
Maybe it might not even be dumb.
It might be just you got programmed poorly.
I know a lady who's Mormon.
Her whole life's Mormon.
And one of the things she said that was kind of shocking.
She was like, I'm more, because she left that religion, and she's like, but I'm very susceptible to bullshit.
Like, I'm very susceptible to gurus and cults.
It's like, there's a part, when you develop your whole life, 35, 45 years of thinking a certain way, and then all of a sudden, it's shut off.
And you're like, okay, all that stuff that you believe, that was all bullshit.
So don't go there anymore.
Now, good luck.
unidentified
You're like, oh, who's got the answer?
adam eget
Those are the ones ripe for the picking.
joe rogan
So it might not even be dumb.
adam eget
They're lost.
They need some direction.
Yeah, something.
joe rogan
Programmed poorly.
Yeah.
adam eget
Well, I wasn't...
I don't think I was...
unidentified
There he is!
joe rogan
There's Frank Sanos!
unidentified
Oh, wow!
joe rogan
This is when he...
This is the comedy connection.
This is when they moved to Out of Stitches.
This is the larger room that was in Faneuil Hall.
He did a little bit.
A little bit.
See, do you got any volume on this?
jamie vernon
He's making them all think they just watched a sad movie in this clip.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, they're all crying.
unidentified
- Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man.
joe rogan
Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - Oh man. - These people are all freaking out.
These people are all freaking out.
Dude, you had to see it in real life.
This is not doing it justice.
adam eget
No, it's just like the guy...
unidentified
Who was it?
joe rogan
There was certain people that would be faking it.
adam eget
Flip orally.
joe rogan
He could tell when you're faking it.
He would walk up to you and go, come on, man.
You're not under.
Get out of here.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
And he kicked those guys out.
adam eget
I love that.
joe rogan
There was other guys that just hook, line, and sinker.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
They believe they were...
adam eget
They want it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they believe they were having sex with a mermaid or something.
They believe they were in a sword fight.
It's just...
adam eget
That's so fascinating to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
And that's who gets caught into the Hale-Bopp comment.
Gets their balls cut off.
adam eget
Their dick balls.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think they cut it down.
adam eget
Fair enough.
Either way, it's pretty intense.
joe rogan
It's an intense commitment to your fake god.
adam eget
I went along with it because I didn't want to extend my sentence.
If you got in trouble and you didn't play along and you didn't follow the rules, then you add six months to your sentence and you drop a peer group.
joe rogan
But you didn't know going in that it was a cult.
No.
When do you think you figured it out?
adam eget
Until like a fucking two years after I had graduated.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So two years after it's all over, you're sitting around going, hey!
adam eget
I think I started talking to someone like, didn't you think that was a little weird when they did this or this or that?
And I was like...
Why don't you mention it?
Wait a minute.
Yeah, we had to do 14 days through Joshua Tree, which was beautiful, which was great.
But then a four-day solo where they give you like a bag of trail mix and some water and a whistle.
And they say, all right, we'll come back in four days.
But as a 14-year-old, it's like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
What the fuck?
adam eget
Yeah, it was intense.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Where was it?
Where are the woods?
adam eget
In Joshua Tree.
joe rogan
That's a fucking sketchy area.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
14 years old?
adam eget
In the desert, yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where were you supposed to get your water?
adam eget
You had a big bag of water.
A big bag of water for four days?
Yeah, a bag of water for four days.
joe rogan
How big is this bag?
adam eget
I don't know.
joe rogan
You have your own bag?
adam eget
Yeah.
Yeah, you were alone.
They give you an area about half the size of this room, this studio.
What?
And they say, all right, we'll come get you in four days.
Here's four granola bars, a bag of trail mix, and a bag of water, and a whistle in case you get bit by a rattlesnake or some shit.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And so where are they when this is happening?
They're nowhere near you?
adam eget
They said they were around, and I think they monitor you.
So they probably saw a lot of beating off.
14 years old.
I think I spent most of my days.
joe rogan
If I was a 14-year-old and I came up with a cult, that would be one of the rules.
adam eget
What was the rule?
No beating off?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I'd be like, you're going to all be by yourself for four days.
You get four granola bars and a bag of water.
Like, it sounds like something a 14-year-old would come up with as far as the rules.
adam eget
It sounds like an episode of fucking Fear Factor.
joe rogan
And here's a whistle if you get bit by a rattler.
I'll be over the top of the hill.
You won't see me, but I'll be able to hear you.
That sounds like a 14-year-old.
adam eget
I'll never forget, too, when we came out, they told us Kurt Cobain had just killed himself.
So was 94. But I remember if you get in trouble, they put you on something called a full-time.
And that was never fun because it was like...
The amount of time of the full-time was in attorney.
So it was based on the staff member.
It was either you ran away or you had sex with another student.
joe rogan
That happened?
adam eget
Kids are banging.
Not me.
joe rogan
In between snotty screams.
adam eget
Yeah, a lot of primal scream therapy.
Bro, that sounds so cool.
But on a full-time, you wake up and you have to try and dig out a stump that's been there since the 70s.
No one was ever going to fucking take it out.
The biggest stump you've ever fucking seen.
I remember when I got enrolled, the first thing I saw was a kid and a pickaxe.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
That's why they have dynamite.
adam eget
Yeah.
You're supposed to dynamite those things.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
adam eget
Well, they used it for full times.
But you're not allowed to laugh or sing or no human contact.
You can't talk to anybody for three weeks.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
They're mindfucking you.
adam eget
That's how long I was.
Yeah, they mindfucked you.
There was something called smushing where everybody...
It was like you walk into this giant house every night and everyone is telling each other their life stories.
Yeah.
But it looked like...
You remember Jonestown when the 909 people had just drank the Kool-Aid?
joe rogan
Yes.
adam eget
And it was just body on top of body?
That's what it looked like.
Everyone's just cuddling with each other.
Oh, my God.
And it's like all the staff members are fucking rubbing hair of the girls.
Jesus Christ.
You're like, this seems highly inappropriate with 13-year-old girls' head in their lap.
unidentified
Oh, God.
adam eget
Yeah, it was fucking, it was trippy.
But yeah, my buddy, our buddy, Jeff Garland, put me in touch with this fantastic writer who writes a lot of episodes of Better Call Saul, and we're almost done with our pilot.
We're gonna pitch it in about a month.
joe rogan
That's one that's going to be fascinating to see how they play that narrative out.
Whether they will show that kind of shit, like a 13-year-old girl in a guy's lap, that seems like you can't even do that.
adam eget
We'll see.
joe rogan
You can't even do that in fiction, you know what I mean?
You'd have to imply it.
adam eget
That's a good point.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is it really happened, right?
So it's not like it's fiction.
So if you were creating this kind of fiction, you're putting it out, people would be like, what?
You sick fuck?
Why did you even think of that?
But you're not doing that.
adam eget
That's true.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're relaying some crazy shit that you actually experienced.
And how many years are you there for?
adam eget
Almost three.
unidentified
Wow.
adam eget
Yeah.
Some of the exercises were crazy.
They did this one called Lifeboat, where they choose two students.
I was one of the students they chose.
And you're on a chair and you can only save two people and all your best friends and shit are sobbing and they're like, please pick me.
And you have to look each person in the eye and tell them why they die.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
adam eget
And then everyone had to write their own eulogy.
Fucking weird.
A girl slit her own throat.
Oh, Jesus!
And another kid jumped off a cliff.
joe rogan
See, this is where I'm with the FBI. This is where I take their side.
I'm like, I get it.
I know why you have to investigate these people.
I understand why you're so wary of people starting cults.
Because I was saying this to my friend.
I'm like, how come no one has ever started a good cult?
Bridget Phetasy and I were talking about this the other day.
I said we should just call it the cult, like an homage to the band.
adam eget
What about The Squad?
joe rogan
But it's not a cult.
adam eget
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
But I'm saying a real cult.
No one can start a good one.
Like a real solid one with good morals.
They're always the same.
adam eget
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think you're onto something.
joe rogan
I think I'm onto something.
This is why the FBI is forced to jump in.
Because it's almost like a thing that's 99% done by assholes.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But 1%, I'm looking for that needle in a haystack.
I'm looking for that piece of gold in the pile of shit.
I know it's in there.
One of those cults is someone who really just has good intentions.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know who Alex Gray is?
adam eget
Oh, yes.
I love fucking Alex Gray.
He does a lot of psychedelics.
joe rogan
He might be one.
He is actually a guy.
adam eget
You're absolutely right.
joe rogan
He's the real deal, because he actually started a religion, and the religion is based on art.
It's not based on profit, and he's building the most insane, beautiful, artistic structure.
adam eget
I love his shit.
joe rogan
The thing that they're building to do their worship in, I mean, I don't know what you'd call it, a cathedral?
Does he call it a cathedral?
What does he call it?
Chapel?
Chapel of Sacred Marriage, right?
Isn't that what he calls it?
adam eget
I heard about this fucking thing.
joe rogan
No, I think that's what he called the place in New York.
I think he calls this something different.
But you've seen it, right?
Have you seen the images?
adam eget
I have one art book.
I think it's in there, maybe.
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
But some of the images from his art are in the cathedral.
The whole thing is like this gigantic work of art.
I don't know if they're 3D printing the outside or...
jamie vernon
Cosm is the chapter of Sacred Mirrors, and then Entheon is that place.
joe rogan
That's right.
Entheon is the place up in upstate New York.
I think Duncan said he was there.
He belongs there.
He's gonna move there.
adam eget
That makes sense.
joe rogan
That checks out.
Yeah, totally.
Duncan could start a good cult.
That's what it looks like on the outside.
adam eget
That's stunning.
joe rogan
Dude, it's dope.
It's basically his art, but his art in a building.
Like, he made a building Out of his art.
adam eget
That's cool.
It's crazy.
This seems like it would be in, like, Sedona or something.
joe rogan
No, man.
adam eget
It's in upstate New York?
joe rogan
Yeah, and they're, like, good tax payers and shit.
And it's a real religion.
So I think they have...
Actually, they're not good taxpayers.
They have tax-exempt status.
I think that's the whole deal.
adam eget
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Good for them!
That's what I'm saying.
I think they're a real religion.
adam eget
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
But he's a guy that I believe.
adam eget
Yeah, he seems like a good dude.
joe rogan
Oh, he's not trying to take everybody's money and bang everybody's wife.
He's really just this guy.
He's a really sweetheart guy and an amazing artist.
adam eget
There are people like that.
You know him and Ram Dass.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ram Dass is a great example.
There's people that really do exist or did exist that really are pure.
That's really what they want to do.
adam eget
I don't know if this guy started out that way.
Who knows?
joe rogan
It's one out of a hundred.
adam eget
Yeah, one out of a hundred.
One in a hundred.
joe rogan
Most of them get to that spot and they just, you know.
It's like when they get into it in the first place, are they doing it because it's been done to them?
Like some of them, clearly, right?
Some of them seem like they were a victim of it.
adam eget
The staff members, for sure.
That's why I know the one who set the homeless guy on fire.
I know for sure that's why he did it.
He got put through this bullshit.
He was going to inflict it on somebody else.
unidentified
Bro!
adam eget
What the fuck?
Garbage.
Garbage people.
And then the craziest thing was maybe about seven or eight years after I graduated, a lot of kids would split.
I split.
You run away.
But then you get caught or you come back to the school once you find out your parents aren't going to take you out.
But a lot of kids never came back.
And that was just the fact to the kids.
We don't know what the fuck happened to them.
They would always tell us that the parents pulled them out of the school.
Some of the kids that ran away and never came back.
But it was on the side of this giant, almost like a cliff, this backside of a mountain.
And some kids would walk down into town through the road.
And some kids, they said, would run away and go down the backside of the mountain.
And they said some kids died going down the backside.
Some kids got kidnapped.
Who fucking knows?
But I found out about seven or eight years after the club was closed, they found out that there was actually a serial killer that was working at the school.
He was like...
Like the night janitor kind of guy.
And confessed to murdering like a handful of kids that we thought ran away.
And he got caught for something else and then confessed to all these murders he had committed over the last decade.
And four of them were kids while he was working up at the campus.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
adam eget
Crazy.
And that was while I was there.
Yeah.
Bonkers.
joe rogan
Fuck.
adam eget
Pretty wild.
joe rogan
So it took you a few years.
Was it a relationship that you were in where a girl was explaining to you?
adam eget
No, it was while I was talking to former students.
joe rogan
Oh.
adam eget
And then it started opening my eyes, and I was like, oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So it wasn't talking to someone who wasn't in it.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
It was talking to someone who was in it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So together you were like going, hey, I've talked to some other people.
Yeah.
adam eget
Exactly.
joe rogan
That's not what 14-year-olds do.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
adam eget
And then when Facebook...
It was even longer than that because I think then when Facebook came out...
Then it was like there were all these groups, and everyone's like, yeah, we were in a cult.
joe rogan
There was a lot of them, I think, in the 60s and the 70s.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think there was a lot of them where there was a lot of people that were experimenting with different lifestyles, and they're experimenting with drugs, and then there was a lot of people.
Whenever you do drugs around people, there's always people that have answers.
adam eget
Right, right.
joe rogan
Annoying people that have answers.
I'm one of those people.
adam eget
Well, it's like Charles Manson.
That's what he did, right?
He gave everybody acid, sure.
joe rogan
New true crime podcast, The Lost Kids, exposes the twisted, troubled teen industry.
Oh.
adam eget
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Look at that.
jamie vernon
Just came out.
joe rogan
Wow.
adam eget
Holy shit.
joe rogan
What kind of timing is this, Adam?
unidentified
Look at that.
adam eget
I got to reach out.
joe rogan
The new podcast investigates missing teen Daniel Yuen, I think.
How do you say that, you think?
Yuen?
I don't know.
unidentified
When?
adam eget
When?
Yeah, maybe when.
joe rogan
When?
Sorry, Daniel.
adam eget
Sorry, Daniel.
joe rogan
In the controversial Sea-Doo schools.
adam eget
Interesting.
jamie vernon
Six episodes.
unidentified
Wow.
adam eget
Wow, fascinating.
I'll definitely be checking that out.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, there was a whole time where people were, you know, regularly getting together groups of people and getting them to do things and telling them things and telling them, you know, got to drink the Kool-Aid and telling them, you got to come with me, we got to...
Kill that pregnant lady and write pig on the wall.
All that shit came out of cults.
All of it.
And the Manson one, Fitzsimmons turned me on to this guy that wrote the book.
Yes.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, have you heard of it?
adam eget
I love Fitzsimmons.
I've heard all about this guy.
joe rogan
The guy's name is Tom O'Neill and his book is called...
Chaos.
It says Chaos...
adam eget
Oh, that's for sure.
joe rogan
Charles Manson and the CIA's mind control experiment.
jamie vernon
Charles Manson and the CIA and the secret history of the 60s.
adam eget
Yeah, Norm wanted to interview him on our podcast for a long time.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
You should have him on because he lived it for 20 fucking years.
So he can talk to you about it in a depth without even looking at notes, man.
He knows everything about the Manson case.
It was his life for 20 fucking years.
Dude, it's crazy.
The book's amazing.
It was all...
The CIA was giving them acid.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Manson, they kept releasing from jail.
He kept violating parole.
They'd let him go.
They let him go.
They knew he was doing crazy shit.
Let him go.
Let him go.
They wanted him to get these hippies to do fucked up things because it would disgrace the anti-war movement and it would get people to be against hippies.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
So he literally, like, let...
Charles Manson, have carte blanche, and they think even experimented on him with acid while he was in jail.
adam eget
That's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
And then when he was out of jail, there was a fucking clinic, a free clinic in Haight-Ashbury that operated until Tom's book came out.
It had been in operation for 30 or 40 fucking years.
No, more.
It was like 50 years from the 60s.
Tom's book comes out, and they close it.
They closed down this free clinic a couple of months after his book comes out, showing that that free clinic was being used in the 1960s by the CIA to dose up hippies and follow them around and do studies on them, and then dose up Johns in whorehouses.
They set up fake whorehouses with two-way mirrors and let these guys take acid.
They thought they were getting a drink and they were going to have sex with a prostitute, and they would pour acid into their mouth and follow them and fucking run studies on them.
unidentified
Crazy!
joe rogan
Oh, that was real!
It's called Operation Midnight Climax.
A real thing that happened.
adam eget
That's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Bro, this Tom O'Neill book blows the lid off of it.
You're like, this is insane.
It's insane.
adam eget
That's wild.
joe rogan
And Fitz Timmons told me about it.
Fitz Timmons doesn't recommend anybody.
But he just goes, you have to get this guy on your podcast.
He goes, it's right up your alley and it's fucking crazy.
And when you hear the whole story, you're like, oh my god, of course.
Like, holy shit.
Of course.
adam eget
That's fucking bonkers.
joe rogan
They fucking experience.
Here's the thing I was going to talk about.
I watched over this past weekend the entire Netflix special on the Unabomber.
There's a four-part special on the Unabomber.
And it mentions a lot of fucked up things about the Unabomber.
I don't want to spoiler alert anybody, but one thing it kind of leaves out was that he was a part, and I'm pretty sure this has been documented, of the CIA, LSD, Harvard drug studies.
adam eget
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was a part of some sort of psychological study in Harvard for three years.
By the way, he graduated from school early, so he was at Harvard when he was 17. A 17-year-old kid, they're putting him through this psychological study where they humiliate you.
And break down your ideas and call you a fool, and there's recordings of it, of him talking to an adult, 17 year old kid talking to an adult who's just openly mocking him and his ideas and shitting on him, and they think they gave these kids- They created the fucking Unabomber.
They think they gave these kids acid too.
Wow.
For what purpose?
Because they were being sadistic.
It was just like a cult.
You give people too much power, they do whatever the fuck they want.
In this case, he gave people too much power and they said, you know what?
Let's find out what acid does do to people.
Let's find out what happens when you humiliate a kid and break them down and give them acid.
Let's try.
And so they would just ruin people's lives.
And they did it to a ton of people, man.
That's so fucking...
Yeah, dude, they just experimented.
They didn't know what acid really was.
They weren't exactly sure what it would do or what it could do.
They thought it was going to be a true serum, then it turns out it's not that.
Like, what is it?
So they did all kinds of experiments with people.
And the best way to do them initially was get volunteers.
But after the volunteers...
were fucking going crazy and losing their marbles and staring in the corner like Blair Witch Project, nodding back and forth.
They ran out of volunteers.
So then they started using prisoners.
And they started using students.
They started using a bunch of different people.
Using people that weren't going to say anything about it, like Johns at a brothel.
Oh, that's a good point.
Yeah, bro.
It's bonkers.
So what was crazy is they didn't mention none of that in the Kaczynski Netflix thing.
And I thought that was fascinating because there was another documentary called The Net.
I believe it was a German documentary.
It's in subtitles, and it was explaining that as well.
But it was going into depth more about the LSD studies that they did on them.
People were just starting to understand.
There really was a time where they were experimenting on people.
That's a real thing.
adam eget
Fuck.
joe rogan
I mean, it was going on for a while.
They were taking people and running experiments on innocent people.
adam eget
That's crazy.
joe rogan
This is a part of our history 50 years ago.
adam eget
The only studies I've seen is like the famous videos like when they give it to like a housewife.
joe rogan
There's all this stuff called MKUltra and MKUltra was a real project where they were really experimenting on people to find out what would happen to them.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
There's people that are experts on how to extract information out of people.
How do you think they get to be those experts?
What do they do?
Well, they experiment.
What are they experimenting on?
Probably prisoners.
They probably do it with prisoners.
That's what they did with Charles Manson.
They experimented on him with acid.
And they taught him how to manipulate others with acid.
How to use acid to break down societal norms and break down all the structure they had in terms of what was okay and not okay in relationships and their relationship to society, how society was fucking them over.
He would force them to have orgies and go, you're going to have sex with her and he's going to have sex with him and put everybody together.
Straight, all acid, all fucked up and literally he would pretend to take acid and then like guide them and guide their thoughts and program them and he did it every night and everybody was like, well, where'd he get the acid?
Where's he getting all that acid?
He's getting it from the fucking government.
adam eget
Wow.
joe rogan
Dude.
adam eget
That's fucking bonkers.
joe rogan
Dude.
Dude.
adam eget
I gotta read this fucking book.
joe rogan
And he was emboldened.
First of all, he was a fucking psychopath with a terrible childhood.
His childhood was just destroyed by the time he was a grown man.
Lived half of his life in federal institutions.
Half of his life.
From the time he got out before Helter Skelter, half of his life he had been in federal prison.
adam eget
Jesus.
joe rogan
Crazy.
adam eget
He spent almost his entire life in prison.
joe rogan
And most likely, they're pretty sure they were involved in acid studies during that time, at least towards the end before they released him.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
So they release him, and he's been in jail a ton of times for everything, fucking stealing cars, all kinds of shit.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And they release him, and he's just getting away with things.
Like when he does things, like they think he murdered a guy, they think he murdered a guy at the ranch, the guy disappeared, and he confessed to it later.
Just never found that guy.
And then he talks these kids into killing people.
Talks these kids into stabbing people and robbing people.
Bro, I mean, and he keeps getting out.
They arrest him for stuff, and they keep letting him go.
And no one could understand it.
Dude, it's nuts.
When you read the book, I listen to the audiobook.
I hardly ever read anymore.
But when you listen to the story, at the end of it, you're like, whoa, well that makes sense.
That's what they were probably doing back then.
They probably did stuff like that back then.
And he connects it to Sirhan Sirhan, the guy who killed Robert F. Kennedy.
He connects it to Jack Ruby, the guy who shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yep, Jack Ruby after this one doctor.
This Dr. Jolly, this famous LSD doctor from that clinic, went to visit Lee Harvey Oswald, excuse me, went to visit Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
When he leaves, Jack Ruby's crawling off the ceiling, screaming and yelling.
He's delusional, demented.
He thinks that there's a new Holocaust happening right now and they're lighting Jewish babies on fire in the street.
He loses his mind, completely loses his mind after this guy visits him, after this LSD doctor who worked with Manson.
Dude.
adam eget
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's the craziest book.
You need that book in your life.
unidentified
I can't wait to read it.
adam eget
What's it called?
joe rogan
Chaos.
unidentified
Chaos.
joe rogan
I think back in the 50s and 60s, they just tried things.
adam eget
That's a great way to look at it.
Yeah, sure.
Just try some shit.
joe rogan
They just tried things.
They're like, let's see what happens when we do this.
Did you see anything about Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski and LSD experiments at Harvard?
jamie vernon
He...
Digging through, there's a book that came out called...
Harvard and the Unabomber...
Digging through here, it doesn't specifically say that those tests had LSD in them, but they were psychological tests that happened at Harvard to undergraduate students in the late 60s, or maybe even...
joe rogan
Yeah, they brushed over it in the documentary, the Netflix thing, about how they would use drugs on patients.
But they were talking about a variety of methods, and they sort of glossed over the fact, and drugs.
But LSD was a critical part of that.
Because if they dosed them up all the time, they could just rewire them.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
Like you could rewire someone's brain.
adam eget
Yeah, you're just starting from scratch, kind of.
joe rogan
Bro, the book will blow your mind.
adam eget
Yeah, it already has.
joe rogan
And as it gets further along, it builds.
I mean, it's a masterpiece.
The guy did it over 20 years.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
He literally gave up his life searching this thing and then gave birth to this 20-year-old baby.
It's amazing.
adam eget
I can't wait to see this fucking baby.
joe rogan
But I think, like, when I'm watching the Unabomber thing, and I'm thinking, how many people like that aren't murderous, but lost their fucking mind?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Because of some crazy experiments.
adam eget
Oh.
joe rogan
Because of someone doing something like that back in the 60s.
adam eget
That's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
But how is that different than a cult?
I mean, it's different in that...
I guess it's different in that they're not taking you to a place, but it's not in terms of one person with an extraordinary amount of power is using and abusing that power in a way that no one would ever consent to, and they don't understand it.
They can't understand it, because in your case, when you're 14, you're a fucking little kid.
In this case, when you're on acid, they're doctoring your neurochemistry.
They're changing the way your fucking brain interfaces with reality and then programming you, talking to you.
Anybody who doesn't think that that is insane, and when you find out that that actually went on, like, whoa, has anybody been held accountable for that?
What happened there?
People still deny it to this day, apparently.
But there's been some Freedom of Information Act documents and some other documents they found that were in CIA storage that confirmed the existence of this program and some of the things that they were trying to do.
adam eget
That's so fucking fascinating.
joe rogan
And they shut it all down.
Once this one guy who was running it died, they're like, that's it.
adam eget
Wrap it up.
joe rogan
We're out.
Can you imagine coming on board, the CIA, like a year later, not having any idea and everybody's mad?
Like, what?
I'm here to, I'm looking for terrorists.
The fuck you talking about, acid and hookers?
unidentified
Like, what?
joe rogan
Who is doing what?
adam eget
Sign me up.
joe rogan
There's no documentation of that, like readily available to new recruits.
They don't tell you.
You know, you sign up for the CIA, you think you're a good guy who's here to save the world from bad people.
adam eget
Right.
joe rogan
And meanwhile, you're coming in right on the heels of the regime that was literally operating whorehouses with two-way mirrors, dosing plumbers up with acid.
adam eget
That's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Poor guys.
Can you imagine?
Just going to have some sex, pay someone to touch your body.
They give you acid?
They bill Cosby you with some fucking acid and then study you.
And that's the government.
And your taxes are all paying for that.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
That's cult shit.
But that's what people do, man, if they have that kind of power.
If you give people just...
First of all, also, if you give people that are in the position of any government agency or a police officer that's seen a lot of violence, they've seen a lot of crazy shit, they've seen the worst side of people, and then you give them this super secret power where no one can know what they're doing, and they can literally ghost people, they can make people vanish.
You can just shoot somebody in the head and throw them in the ocean.
No one's gonna say anything.
Everybody's on your side.
You're one of the good guys.
adam eget
Ugh.
joe rogan
People would just do stuff like that.
adam eget
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
They need to be held accountable.
adam eget
Definitely.
joe rogan
That's what the rules are for.
The rules are to keep people from being people.
adam eget
Yeah, accountability is very important.
joe rogan
It's paramount.
You've got to keep people from giving in to the primal people nature.
adam eget
I like the primal people nature.
joe rogan
Seems like that's what those cults are, man.
It's like there's a combination of stupid, uninformed narcissism and that weird primal nature to tell people what to do.
And you bang it all together with some delusional person with some good vocabulary and some wild stories of what's waiting for them after the Hale-Bopp comet passes overhead and you cut your balls off.
adam eget
It's fucked up.
Yeah, it's all fucked up.
joe rogan
How did it affect, once you got out and you realized you were out and you talked to all the other people that were out too and you all realized that you were out, how did it affect, did you have to like remap those years in your head?
Did you have to kind of think about What life is really like?
adam eget
It was interesting, because I got out when I was 16, so I had to go out.
As soon as I got out, I had two more years of high school.
So I got thrown down the street at Taft.
I went to Taft High School in Woodland Hills.
And then, yeah, did a couple more years there.
But it was tough to get re-acclimated.
And then, yeah, I didn't know.
I had to retrain my brain.
Like, I felt like I knew...
It was almost like I knew what they were trying to do.
I almost felt like I was being brainwashed and we were taught to self-police each other.
joe rogan
So it's like North Korea style.
adam eget
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Otherwise, you know, they would put you on a full-time and you'd have to fucking dig out a stump for three weeks.
joe rogan
So when you say we were forced to self-police each other, were you forced to self-police yourself or other guys?
adam eget
Ourselves and others.
Yeah, you'd have to write a dirt list every week, which is basically every rule.
joe rogan
Here's another way the government's fucking kind of culty.
They were doing that in LA. They were asking people to find people who weren't social distancing.
Yeah, and report them and then report businesses that were operating during quarantine.
You get a reward.
Call this hotline.
Call this number.
Be a rat.
adam eget
Be a bitch.
joe rogan
Yeah, be a bitch.
There should be a number.
1-800-BE-A-BITCH. But when they call those numbers, they should have your phone number, and then when you go to vote, they should go, oh, look.
Turns out you're a bitch.
Look what you did, stupid.
This guy was barbecuing in his backyard without a mask on.
You called the fucking feds.
You creeps.
People are so crazy.
They're so absolute and so angry.
adam eget
Yeah, that's insane.
Yeah, I don't know man, and then I got out.
joe rogan
How do you recover?
How do you go, hey, this is all bullshit?
adam eget
I think it took some time.
It took years, but I was one of the lucky ones.
I was like, you know what?
I did it.
I took the positives.
I was like, you know what?
It wasn't all bad.
I learned some tools.
And if I didn't go through that, I wouldn't be the person I am today.
And I'm not the worst fucking guy in the world.
So...
I made it out.
I survived.
Fuck it, right?
There were a lot of people that wouldn't let go.
They would just hold on.
And to this very day, they hold on so tight to this bitterness and this anger.
And they can't sleep at night.
And all they think about is what they went through.
They lost three years of their life.
I do hate that.
I do bummed out that I missed out those three years of junior high.
joe rogan
Not if this script gets sold.
adam eget
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
adam eget
That's true.
joe rogan
That's earned character.
adam eget
Exactly.
joe rogan
That's like, you know, we're talking about with Joey Diaz.
Like, you earned this.
adam eget
I totally, not only do I not regret it, there's many, many, many days, more days than not, that I wish I could go back and do it all over again.
I swear to God.
joe rogan
Why?
adam eget
I don't know.
There was camaraderie.
There was something about it.
I had all that other bullshit to worry about, but I didn't have to worry about a roof over my head, job, all the other bullshit that you have to worry about as an adult.
joe rogan
They say that about prison.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm sure.
joe rogan
You get institutionalized.
adam eget
Exactly.
I heard stories...
About people, even in the Holocaust, because you know what they, and you know what the reason, I think it's a very small percentage of people that would have wanted to go back to that.
But they said it's because they felt alive.
joe rogan
A lot of people said that about war in general.
During war, they feel like the stakes are so high and everything's turned up to 11. You know, I think that's what we're talking about when we're talking about the pandemic, the early days of the pandemic.
I felt like this is going to be good for people.
It's going to be a little bit of a lesson, but I'm much more cynical now.
adam eget
Yes.
joe rogan
Because now I see that this is...
Everyone's going to survive, but they're going to be broke.
And they're going to be...
I mean, it's going to harden people's differences instead of force people to abandon a lot of the foolish stuff and concentrate on what's important, keeping our loved ones and our family alive, keeping each other alive and doing the right thing and protecting ourselves from this invasion of demons, invisible demons that can kill your grandpa.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then when we realized it wasn't that...
Then everybody sort of settled into this boredom.
Everybody settled into like watching TV all day and eating too much.
And then the shit talking on Twitter got to the point where I'm like, I don't even want to read you guys anymore.
Everyone's so angry.
There's so much anger.
And until things bounce back to a steady place, I don't think that's going to resolve itself.
adam eget
Well, it's a very divisive issue, you know.
joe rogan
But I do hope that some of us, the wise amongst us, some of us that like to think about things are going to look at this and go, Maybe my priorities were out of whack.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe I was working too much.
Maybe I should have just tried to enjoy life and had more adventures and just appreciated people and just more dinners with wine, you know, laughing and hugging each other and just more having fun because there's so much of...
So much of life is really horseshit.
adam eget
Yep.
joe rogan
Really, like, it's hard to...
It's hard to recognize it when it's right in front of you and it demands your attention.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
But it's not the same thing as losing your life.
And when that virus came along, like post 9-11, everybody kind of became nicer for a little bit.
adam eget
Yep.
joe rogan
I'm hoping that more of us than not will be able to recapture that.
adam eget
I hope so.
joe rogan
Just hold on to what...
Is actually important.
adam eget
And I hope that's sooner rather than later.
joe rogan
I also hope that people that have been thinking about doing something, but they've been held back by this idea that you're going to play it safe, you realize there's no safe.
adam eget
Yeah.
joe rogan
So good.
So write that book.
Start stand-up.
Make that album.
Fucking start sculpting.
Whatever the fuck you're thinking about doing, man, just go and do it.
Go and do it.
Get out there, man.
adam eget
I want to kidnap a bunch of people and give them acid.
joe rogan
I think that's been done.
adam eget
All right, sorry.
joe rogan
Turns out terrible.
Shit.
When are you going to do your thing with Norm again?
You going to start soon?
adam eget
Yeah, we've been planning for a while now, so now we're just going to...
We just need to put all the nuts and bolts into place and then get a studio, get a camera, and just do it.
But you're going to be the first guest.
joe rogan
I'm in.
adam eget
All right, good.
joe rogan
So just tell me when so I can plan ahead.
adam eget
We're shooting the first one in the fall.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
So you're going to plan it out.
You're going to map it out in advance.
Nice.
adam eget
I can't wait.
Dude, I'm in.
joe rogan
Listen, I love Norm to pieces.
He's one of my all-time favorite human beings that have ever lived.
I have a great story about Norm, me and him on a plane.
Randomly.
This is crazy, but true.
Randomly.
Twice, I sat next to him on planes.
Just randomly.
adam eget
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, totally randomly.
Like, what's up, Norm?
What's up, Norm?
Like, crazy.
This is happening again?
And both times, it was a blast.
But one time, we're flying back, and he's like, yeah, I used to smoke.
And I had to give it up.
It's fucking terrible for you.
Sometimes I miss it, but glad I quit.
I'm like, how long has it been?
He's telling me all these months.
He stopped smoking, this and that.
We're talking.
As soon as he lands, he walks right into the fucking store, buys a carton of cigarettes, and he's opening this cigarette.
He's lighting it before he gets out the door.
And I go, what are you doing?
He goes, oh, that talk about smoking.
I had to have one.
And the flight from, I forget where we even were.
Two times.
Both times were just like the best flights.
Just like having an audience of one next to one of the greatest comics ever and just be able to talk shit.
adam eget
Yeah, he's probably, you know, he's probably like in my top three favorite stand-up comics of all time.
And great guy.
He's a great guy.
The two greatest people in my life in comedy have been Norm and Spade.
They've just been so good to me, and I love them both, and they're both equally hilarious in different ways.
But Norm, I'll never forget how quick he was and good he was at hosting that podcast.
We had Larry King on one time, and Larry was like, Norm, I don't think they're going to give you a show.
Because he was just fucking outlandish, saying the most crazy fucking shit to Larry King.
And Larry's like, you know what, Norm?
He's like 50 years in the radio business.
The one thing I learned is I rarely talk.
I always listen.
That's why I always learn from the guests because I'm always listening.
And Norris, can I interrupt you there?
unidentified
So I can't wait to come back with this podcast.
joe rogan
Norm is the hidden king of the internet.
If he decided to have a podcast, it would be the biggest podcast of all time.
If he just did it on a regular basis.
adam eget
I know.
We just need to get motivated.
joe rogan
He's buck wild, dude.
unidentified
He is.
joe rogan
And he's always been.
adam eget
Always.
joe rogan
There's whatever the filter, it doesn't even screw in his head.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
There's no filter.
There was never a place for it.
adam eget
He's with Charles Manson a comedy.
No, he loves Manson.
joe rogan
Does he really?
adam eget
Yeah, we'll definitely get O'Neal on.
joe rogan
No way!
He's a Manson fiend?
adam eget
Huge.
joe rogan
How much does he know about the case?
adam eget
I think he knows.
I'm sure he's read the book several times.
joe rogan
You think he's read that book?
That chaos book?
Okay.
Yeah, good.
I need to talk to him about it.
adam eget
Yeah, you have to.
joe rogan
Well, listen, brother.
adam eget
Dude, I can't thank you enough.
Always good to see you.
Always good to see you.
But we gotta do this in the VIP bar.
joe rogan
Yes.
Next time I see you, I hope we're at the Comedy Store and the shows.
Tell everybody your Instagram so they can tell you.
adam eget
Oh, at AdamEbay.
joe rogan
Send me a lot of dick pics.
adam eget
Yes, send me all the dick pics.
At AdamEbay.
joe rogan
On Twitter and Instagram?
unidentified
Or just Instagram?
adam eget
Twitter, at AdamEgott.
Instagram, at AdamEbay.
joe rogan
All right, brother.
Thank you.
adam eget
That was fun.
unidentified
God bless you.
joe rogan
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Praise Odin to you all.
adam eget
Yes.
joe rogan
Bye.
adam eget
Hail Bob.
Dude, thank you so much.
I was fucking terrified.
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