May 25, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| You come in here moving and shaking, man. | ||
| You come in here making deals. | ||
| You're on the phone already. | ||
| Gotta do it, Joe. | ||
| You're always moving. | ||
| I mean, is there anything else to do? | ||
| Is there anything else to do besides moving? | ||
| Now that you want to get ahead. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Especially not now, man. | ||
| Hunters hunt. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Those that don't get ate. | ||
| The last time you were here, man, that was one of the most inspirational podcasts I've ever done. | ||
| I left that. | ||
| I literally had a shift in the way I was looking at things. | ||
| Like you put an extra gear in my step that day. | ||
| I was like, oh, I love being around people like you. | ||
| My guy. | ||
| People around you, people like you, you're going for shit all the time. | ||
| And it's infectious. | ||
| It's like you give off energy. | ||
| And when people are around you, they want to get shit done too. | ||
| It's contagious. | ||
| It's not just me putting it out. | ||
| I think that the last time I was here, our conversation was such a great conversation because we both had point of views, right? | ||
| And when we shared the point of views, you elevated the other person's POV. Like when we were talking and I was telling you why I live the way I live, why I am the way I am, you springboarded. | ||
| Then you said, yeah, because Kev, for me, I've been doing this and we had this yin and yang thing going and it drove the conversation. | ||
| I told you, you know, before we jumped on, one of the best interviews that I've ever done and from a feedback perspective with people that just loved what the discussion was, uh, Loved the tone of the interview, the things that were said, felt inspired, motivated after. | ||
| It was just great all around for me. | ||
| Checked all the boxes. | ||
| It was for me too, and I got a bunch of great responses from my friends. | ||
| That's when I know it's good, when I get friends, and my friends are all pretty unanimous. | ||
| They're like, that is a motivational motherfucker. | ||
| That dude gets shit done. | ||
| When people hear stuff like you, like someone who's excited about life, excited about doing things, there's something about that. | ||
| It's fuel. | ||
| It's fuel for people. | ||
| We need that. | ||
| Everyone needs that. | ||
| You know, this is not a cheesy segue. | ||
| This just makes sense from what you just said. | ||
| What you just said is the reason why I did the decision. | ||
| You said people need that it's fuel. | ||
| I feel that in today's time, what people are most selfish with is information. | ||
| Nobody wants to give information. | ||
| You gotta ask for it. | ||
| If you ask for it, then alright, maybe. | ||
| Maybe I'll tell you some stuff, but it's a search and find. | ||
| You mean real good information? | ||
| Real information. | ||
| Information about how to get to success. | ||
| That's the want from everybody across the board. | ||
| On some level. | ||
| Everybody's success is different. | ||
| This doesn't mean fame and stars. | ||
| I'm not talking about that level of success for everything. | ||
| I'm saying whatever your version of success is, to get to it, Information from someone that's done it or that's partaken in it in some degree will only add to the value of your journey. | ||
| It's only going to make it easier. | ||
| It's not to say that you got to do what they said, but with that information, you're able to process it. | ||
| Maybe use it, maybe not. | ||
| But you got it. | ||
| That's what I wanted to do. | ||
| I said, yo, I got a life. | ||
| I got a hell of a life that I've lived full of ups, downs, potholes, cobblestone speed bumps, flat roll, U-turns, some smack brick walls that I ran into, some revolving doors of back and forth. | ||
| And through it all, my mental has only gotten better. | ||
| Because I feel like I've been in a mental gym. | ||
| The mental fitness that coincides with life, you know, it should get better. | ||
| You should get wiser. | ||
| You should get smarter. | ||
| You should be able to make better decisions. | ||
| And all of my decisions came from the massive amount of fuck-ups. | ||
| And I can now share those fuck-ups. | ||
| I can now share the rights and the wrongs in the way that I handle all of the things that I've done. | ||
| And people can just take that information and go, wow, I never looked at it like that. | ||
| What gives them a better view of the landscape? | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Especially when someone like you, you almost seem like an unattainable person. | ||
| Like, how does he do that? | ||
| How is he doing that? | ||
| How does this guy go from Philadelphia to be one of the biggest movie stars in the world? | ||
| How does he become one of the biggest stand-up comedy stars ever? | ||
| How the Why the fuck do you do that? | ||
| You almost seem like an alien to people on the outside. | ||
| But then when they hear you talk about your real life and talk about these fuck-ups, talk about these successes and talk about the lessons that you've learned, man, that's fuel for folks in a way that nothing else is because there's a lot of people that are bullshitting online. | ||
| There's a lot of these motivational speakers that haven't done shit. | ||
| And it's a weird thing. | ||
| It's like they're trying to give you motivation by sort of reciting things that they think are going to work. | ||
| That they think you want to hear. | ||
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They haven't done anything. | |
| Someone who's done something, when you say it, people are going to listen. | ||
| They're going to go, oh, and you're so honest about everything. | ||
| That's everything to people because when you're pure, when your words are pure, people take them right in. | ||
| They come right in. | ||
| There's no like, oh, this guy's kind of fucking selling me something. | ||
| Oh, this guy's kind of full of shit. | ||
| I got nothing to sell. | ||
| I had a talk with... | ||
| Chase, like, Chase, J.B. Morgan Chase, a partner of mine, and we were doing this, well, not we were, we are, we're doing this thing called Advancing Black Pathways, right, where we're trying to cure financial literacy in the black community. | ||
| We've been, we're on, like, year number two right now, right? | ||
| And there was a conversation where, you know, they wanted to have said bankers go and talk to the kids in the inner city. | ||
| And I was like, you can't, you can't send A white man that works for JPMorgan Chase to the inner city of said community, hood, whatever, to talk to these young black kids that has no idea about the life that the black kids are living. | ||
| I said, what you need is people that have actually come from these environments. | ||
| They have made it out of the environment and now understand how money works. | ||
| Because now when I talk to you, I'm not talking to you with hypotheticals and I'm not preaching to you about what you should do and what you got to do. | ||
| I said, I'm telling you what I did that didn't work. | ||
| I'm telling you how I fucked off money and I'm telling you what I didn't know. | ||
| Hey guys, here's a fact. | ||
| There is no education that comes with money in the black communities. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| You can go search for it. | ||
| There isn't one. | ||
| It does not exist. | ||
| There is no one that is outright teaching the kids in a black community how to operate financially, how to set up for your future. | ||
| There is nobody talking to you about ownership, homes, mortgages, investments, stocks. | ||
| That doesn't exist. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| It's not until you get out of that environment that you meet some people that are planning their life accordingly that you start to ask questions. | ||
| It's not until maybe college and on the later side of it that you're with people that are getting jobs in the future that you start to do it. | ||
| There is no prep or education at a young age. | ||
| I said, so you need a fucking man that can go there and go, hey man, Let me tell you why y'all gotta stop taking these free credit cards. | ||
| Let me tell you why you gotta stop putting the cable in somebody else's name and continuing to fuck it up. | ||
| Let me tell you why you gotta stop being okay with not having a bank account. | ||
| Let me tell you why you gotta stop using the check cash in places. | ||
| There's nobody giving that information. | ||
| I said that's what I am. | ||
| So if we're going to have a relationship, let's build it off of something authentic. | ||
| Let's build it off of something that people can go, I get that. | ||
| Since then, to go back to your point, my relationship has been based on me telling the truth. | ||
| I told JPMorgan Chase, I want to go to the inner city and I want to have these discussions, but let me have them my way. | ||
| I don't want to have it in a JPMorgan Chase way. | ||
| And I got to credit them for backing me because they align me with other people that share the same stories, that have achieved certain levels of success, that speak to the same thing. | ||
| So everything that I've done, everything that I'm trying to do, when I do talk about it, I come proven. | ||
| I'm only talking about this because I really got knowledge about it. | ||
| I don't got knowledge about it because I'm the smartest motherfucker in the world. | ||
| That's not where the knowledge is coming from, Joe. | ||
| My knowledge is coming from, hey man, yo, don't walk through door number one. | ||
| I walked through that door. | ||
| There's a bunch of shit in that door. | ||
| It wasn't until I came out that door that I saw those monsters that I knew the other monsters weren't as bad in door number two. | ||
| But door number three is finally where you should go. | ||
| I messed up, man. | ||
| I went to the first two doors wrong. | ||
| Why can't I give that to somebody that hasn't experienced those doors yet? | ||
| Why can't I just give that information and possibly prevent them from walking into those doors? | ||
| And that's what's really valuable for people listening. | ||
| Yeah, man! | ||
| That's what's really valuable. | ||
| Someone has actually done it. | ||
| And done it wrong and done it right. | ||
| And like, hey, listen, I fucked up. | ||
| This is how I fucked up. | ||
| That means so much to people. | ||
| You're advancing people's possibilities. | ||
| I think that's what life... | ||
| Should be about. | ||
| As adults, we have a job to do. | ||
| Whether you want to admit it or not, your job is to set up the next generation. | ||
| That's our job. | ||
| Whether you want to fucking admit it or not, it's your kids, it's your friends, it's whomever. | ||
| You're supposed to live a certain way Do certain things to set up for the next generation to come and to be able to do better. | ||
| If you don't, then you're not doing your part. | ||
| And if the world never fucking grows, you got to raise your hand and be responsible. | ||
| Because you're a part of the lag. | ||
| You're part of the delay. | ||
| If we look up in 15, 20 years and we're in the same spot, what that means is that our fucking groundbreakers that was doing all the shit during that 15, 20 years never shared the information so that these new people could come through and break new ground. | ||
| Somebody gotta do more than what the fuck I did. | ||
| I don't care who it is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you gotta do more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Somebody gotta fucking do more. | ||
| Somebody gotta break these records. | ||
| You already belayed the trail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All I did was show you, hey man, hey, they stopped here, but I kept going to the left. | ||
| And I started hauling ass, and look what I found. | ||
| Now that I'm over here, that means there's more. | ||
| Did you have a time in your life where you realized that you were doing the right thing? | ||
| A time in your life where you realized, in your comedy career in particular, where you realized, I'm getting some fucking traction. | ||
| This is really rolling. | ||
| In the beginning, you probably, like all of us, were not sure what was going to happen. | ||
| You're trying. | ||
| You're doing open mics. | ||
| You're trying to make it. | ||
| Was there a time where you're like, this approach, this is happening. | ||
| I've got traction. | ||
| It was when... | ||
| I think the noticing of, oh shit, of something's happening right now. | ||
| And this is... | ||
| I think this is success. | ||
| I think I'm in it. | ||
| Was it around the time of your first special? | ||
| It wasn't. | ||
| It was when I did the Shaq All-Star Comedy Jam. | ||
| I just told somebody this story. | ||
| I was talking to Gary Owens, actually. | ||
| A good friend of mine, comedian. | ||
| And we were talking about the past. | ||
| And Gary was like, Kev, there was a moment where you just fucking just ran past everyone. | ||
| And he was like, I don't remember exactly what it was that did it. | ||
| He said, I just remember looking up and you were gone. | ||
| And I remember it was the Shaq. | ||
| All-Star Comedy Jam. | ||
| The lineup was Cedric The Entertainer. | ||
| He was hosting. | ||
| It was D-Ray Davis, Tommy Davison, and myself. | ||
| That's a hell of a lineup. | ||
| It was D-Ray Davison, Tommy Davison, myself. | ||
| Cedric The Entertainer was the host. | ||
| And I closed out the show. | ||
| And I remember going to do the show. | ||
| It was in Phoenix. | ||
| It was in the round. | ||
| And I had to do... | ||
| This is when I was about to tape Seriously Funny, my next special. | ||
| I have to grow a little man. | ||
| So Seriously Funny, I was taping in like four months. | ||
| It was already on the books. | ||
| So this is supposed to be it. | ||
| This is my big... | ||
| Coming out party. | ||
| This has to be it, man. | ||
| You know, I feel like I'm ready. | ||
| I've been working hard. | ||
| My jokes are hitting. | ||
| I'm raw. | ||
| I'm edgy. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| This is the one. | ||
| I'm fucking funny. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| That's why I titled that. | ||
| Seriously funny. | ||
| I was ready. | ||
| I get the call from Jeff Klanigan. | ||
| Shaq's All-Star Comedy Jam. | ||
| We're taping it, Kev. | ||
| Dude, it's like 15, 20 minutes. | ||
| You know, can you do it for me? | ||
| And Jeff and I had a relationship. | ||
| And I was like, Jeff, I'm about to tape my special. | ||
| I don't want to burn that material. | ||
| He's like, Kev, look, you can use some other stuff. | ||
| 15, 20 minutes, we tape it. | ||
| But, you know, these things get some good traction, good views. | ||
| It's some good eye candy. | ||
| You should just have it out there. | ||
| All right, whatever. | ||
| I wasn't even taking it serious. | ||
| This is not something that I was taking serious. | ||
| And this is an example of sometimes you don't know what it's going to be. | ||
| You don't know what the fuel in the rocket is going to be. | ||
| You just got to fucking buckle up and be prepared for the takeoff. | ||
| Now, if it take off and you don't know where the seatbelts are and you don't know where the lights and shit at, well, now you got a fucked up rocket ride. | ||
| You're going to crash. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| It's over if you're not ready. | ||
| I do it. | ||
| This thing airs and I remember watching it. | ||
| And at the end of the show, something so small seems so fucking big. | ||
| I say goodnight. | ||
| I put up two fingers. | ||
| And as I'm walking off the stage, they put it in slow motion. | ||
| They put me in slow motion walking off the stage. | ||
| And there was a separation from everything else that was on there. | ||
| It was almost like... | ||
| This guy is the guy. | ||
| It was a small tweak in editing. | ||
| I had nothing to do with it. | ||
| I just saw it. | ||
| And the slow motion walk off, the crowd getting up, clapping. | ||
| You see people's faces, slow motion, pointing, screaming. | ||
| And I'm walking off with like a bob. | ||
| And it was almost like a coined, this is it. | ||
| This is going to be the guy. | ||
| I didn't do it. | ||
| I didn't mean for it to happen. | ||
| I didn't know it was going to happen. | ||
| God bless the editors. | ||
| God bless the Shaq All-Star Comedy Jam. | ||
| After that aired, I remember doing a show at Caroline's. | ||
| This is a true fucking story. | ||
| Shout out to Louis from Caroline's Comedy Club. | ||
| I was just doing a weekend. | ||
| Weekend, you're supposed to be doing, you know, three shows. | ||
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We sold out 15 shows. | |
| We sold out 15 fucking shows. | ||
| How the fuck did you do that? | ||
| We didn't know. | ||
| How many days? | ||
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We was there for like eight days! | |
| We were there for like eight days. | ||
| Lewis can confirm this. | ||
| Caroline's Comedy Club. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Michael Berkowitz can confirm this. | ||
| That's my public appearance agent. | ||
| We just kept getting calls. | ||
| We're gone. | ||
| We just put the tickets up for another show. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| What? | ||
| What do you want to do? | ||
| We can add another. | ||
| You want to try to do a Wednesday night? | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| Kevin, we added the Wednesday. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| What do you want to do? | ||
| You want to see if we can add a late show Wednesday? | ||
| Yeah, fuck it, I guess. | ||
| It's gone! | ||
| Tuesday. | ||
| It went Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. | ||
| We was in that bitch till goddamn Wednesday. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Holy shit. | ||
| 15 shows! | ||
| Caroline's Comedy Club! | ||
| What did that feel like when it was happening? | ||
| I'm going to say 12 to 15 shows. | ||
| I remember. | ||
| Because some of the days we could do one, some we could do two. | ||
| But you don't know. | ||
| I'm like, I can't even understand this. | ||
| Caroline's Comedy Club was a big comedy club. | ||
| This is New York City. | ||
| This is the melting pot where you got some of everybody. | ||
| After that is when me and Bert said, is this a New York thing? | ||
| Did the word get out in New York? | ||
| And we found out that Shaq's All-Star Comedy Jam was playing on showtime around the clock. | ||
| It was just being pumped all day, all night. | ||
| And we put up some shows outside, and the comedy club started flying. | ||
| We was adding shows. | ||
| We said, let's do small theaters. | ||
| And then I did small theaters. | ||
| And right after that moment, I taped Seriously Funny. | ||
| So Shaq's All-Star Comedy Jam hit so hard that by the time I was ready to do Seriously Funny, which was in three to four months, people were so hyped and ready to see me do something else that that became a massive attraction. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Seriously Funny took off and blew as well. | ||
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That's great. | |
| It's crazy that it was something that you weren't even really thinking of. | ||
| Not even thinking about it. | ||
| Maybe that's why it was so free, you know? | ||
| The shit that you don't... | ||
| No pressure. | ||
| Yeah, the shit that... | ||
| Now, by the way, seriously funny, I damn near shitted myself before the show. | ||
| I damn near defecated on myself before the show because I'm like, man, these people are here. | ||
| The theater sold out so fast. | ||
| I had LeBron, Shaq, the whole Cleveland Cavalier team was there at the time. | ||
| It was unreal. | ||
| I was like, this is... | ||
| This is it. | ||
| This is my moment. | ||
| I gotta make this a thing. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I can't fuck this up. | ||
| I cannot fuck this up. | ||
| The show ended up going great, and then from there, the fucking star just continued to rise. | ||
| And that's when the engine within myself started the click of go-get, right? | ||
| Is this something you always had, the go-get? | ||
| I always had that. | ||
| Always had that. | ||
| I told you before, that's my mom. | ||
| R.I.P. Nancy Hart. | ||
| Don't tell me I can't do something, because now I'm pissed. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Now I'm going to do it. | ||
| Don't tell me that. | ||
| And that's a gift and a curse. | ||
| That's a gift and a curse. | ||
| Like you saw in the doc, I don't know if you saw, but in my documentary, I put it all out there. | ||
| That's a curse. | ||
| Kev, don't put that video up. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Don't tell me what the fuck not to do. | ||
| I'm going to do it. | ||
| And sometimes it don't do what you think it was going to do. | ||
| You don't know everything. | ||
| You don't know everything and you're not that great to think that you do know everything. | ||
| And you can get bit in the ass by thinking that. | ||
| But you gotta get bit to go, ooh, let me get better at that. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So, my go get comes from me just saying, what's my reason not to go after everything that I possibly can? | ||
| I will stand on a fucking building and say this, man. | ||
| It's a game. | ||
| This thing is serious, but it's got a game-like quality to it. | ||
| This thing called life. | ||
| It's got a game-like quality to it. | ||
| And if you don't fucking see that, you better open your eyes. | ||
| You better open your fucking eyes. | ||
| Because in this life... | ||
| The moves that we're making allow you to do more, to get more, to see more, travel more, explore, experience. | ||
| Or some people are dealt a different hand and it's tougher. | ||
| It's a darker road and it's... | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I want to get out of this. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I'm doing... | ||
| How do I get out? | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I made it. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| It looked like I wasn't supposed to get out, but I'm out. | ||
| Everybody say you can't get out of this shit. | ||
| I did. | ||
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I'm out. | |
| I'm out. | ||
| I'm one of the people that got out. | ||
| It's a fucking... | ||
| It's got a real game-like quality to it. | ||
| And that doesn't mean that you play with it. | ||
| Understand what I'm saying here. | ||
| It means that you can do... | ||
| What you put your mind to, and if you continue to put your mind to it, the game opens up new levels. | ||
| Tell me I'm fucking saying something wrong. | ||
| You're saying something right. | ||
| You get a new level, and each new level that gets opened up, you're able to adapt a different mindset and a different approach. | ||
| You can stop at that level, or you can go, I want more levels. | ||
| I want more fucking levels. | ||
| I don't like seeing shit That I have no idea how to obtain or gain access to. | ||
| That frustrates me. | ||
| That frustrates me when people do things and I don't know how they do it or did it. | ||
| Whether I'm going to do it or not, I want to know. | ||
| When you're around people that work in different atmospheres, what do you do, man? | ||
| Oh, man, I'm the guy that takes these labels right here. | ||
| Simple labels right here. | ||
| I have a manufacturing company where I do these, but I do them in bulk. | ||
| So we do 1,000 labels every 30 seconds, and I built a manufacturing lab, and this company here pays me X on a dollar, and I got... | ||
| 35 companies doing the same thing. | ||
| I've built a multi-million dollar business based off labels. | ||
| People don't understand how important labels are. | ||
| I did at a young age, so I started manufacturing labels. | ||
| You can manufacture fucking labels? | ||
| Now I'm intrigued. | ||
| Even if I didn't want to do that, I'm intrigued that that's a thing. | ||
| I'm intrigued. | ||
| I'm intrigued that you found a way to do that. | ||
| This table. | ||
| Is it handmade? | ||
| Does a company do these? | ||
| Is it fucking custom? | ||
| Where's the wood from? | ||
| If you really dig into everything, it comes from a thought. | ||
| It comes from a broken down thought. | ||
| So you can be a person that's just around a bunch of brilliant thoughts and never ask questions. | ||
| Or you can soak some of that shit up. | ||
| You know what this pandemic showed me, Joe? | ||
| How our economy really fucking works. | ||
| Once again, I'm coming from the perspective of a young black man from the hood. | ||
| I'm from the bottom. | ||
| I don't know shit about stocks. | ||
| I don't know nothing about investments. | ||
| Never have, right? | ||
| But I know through this pandemic, now that I'm at a point where I'm actually into stocks and I'm investing and putting a portfolio together, well, I really looked at the way that the world moves. | ||
| I really looked at how we move as people. | ||
| How are we fucking still going? | ||
| What are we using? | ||
| What are we fucking using? | ||
| This is what I said to my kids. | ||
| I said, what are you still using? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| On a day-to-day, what do we have to use? | ||
| Tell me the things we have to use. | ||
| Toothpaste. | ||
| Who makes the toothpaste? | ||
| They told me who made the toothpaste. | ||
| Is that a company that you can invest in? | ||
| Do you feel like everybody uses this toothpaste? | ||
| If you do, that means that this is a company that's been successful and may be successful for a long time because this is a necessary need of everyone. | ||
| That's an investment, kids. | ||
| What else do we use? | ||
| What else do we use every day? | ||
| Where do you go? | ||
| What do you like? | ||
| In the mornings? | ||
| Starbucks? | ||
| Is that an investment? | ||
| Do you feel like everybody drinks Starbucks? | ||
| We drink it all the time. | ||
| You feel like everybody else does too? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| That's an investment. | ||
| That's what you put money in because you feel like it's going to last, it's going to grow. | ||
| What stores do we go to? | ||
| Where are we always at? | ||
| Target? | ||
| How many people in Target when we go? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Is that an investment? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Why do you guess? | ||
| At this point, you should know. | ||
| We talk about it all the time. | ||
| Why do you think it's an investment, Dad? | ||
| Why do you think it's not? | ||
| I'm talking to you about putting money in places where you feel like it's going to grow. | ||
| Do you feel like targets are going to shut down tomorrow? | ||
| Or do you feel like they're going to open more stores? | ||
| How do you feel? | ||
| This is a thing that I watch. | ||
| And this is a thing that I also watch people ignore. | ||
| This is what's wrong with our world because we don't talk to people enough like this. | ||
| We don't give them the simplicity behind the way we fucking move and the way the world goes around. | ||
| If we did get the simplicity, then we could have people taking $20 out their check and creating a portfolio. | ||
| We could have people taking $40 to $50 out their check and putting it in said thing. | ||
| Said stock, said thing. | ||
| Whatever it is, you can be doing it at a younger age. | ||
| You don't have to have the most crazy amount of money. | ||
| It can start off with the smallest amounts of money, but you can learn it that can grow. | ||
| I watch it. | ||
| I pay attention. | ||
| That's what gets me fucking going, Joe. | ||
| I pay attention to everything. | ||
| My question is, why don't most of us? | ||
| Why are we comfortable with letting the world just go by? | ||
| I think a lot of people don't have the framework. | ||
| They don't know how to operate in that realm. | ||
| They don't know how to get going. | ||
| They don't know how to get started. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| But I love what you said about it being there's a game-like quality to life. | ||
| That's such a perfect way to look at it. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| You played the game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You played the game for how many years, Joe? | ||
| How many years are you on your podcast? | ||
| Eleven. | ||
| Eleven years, right? | ||
| I'm going to give you a very true story. | ||
| And to my brothers, the Plastic Cup boys, we got our radio show, Straight From the Heart. | ||
| I'm constantly preaching to us about it's not about now. | ||
| It's about tomorrow. | ||
| Our radio show is a good radio show and we have a following but it's not about now. | ||
| It's about tomorrow. | ||
| We got to put the work in today so that when tomorrow comes we are well equipped for the conversation that may be. | ||
| I said Joe had a fucking long ride of preparing for tomorrow. | ||
| And when tomorrow hit, it had to hit correctly because Joe never not did the work on a day-to-day basis to prepare for tomorrow. | ||
| I got everybody fired up just off of the fact that you continue to do your thing the way that you were, regardless of conversations, regardless of other offers and possibilities. | ||
| You felt something else was on the horizon for tomorrow. | ||
| But you knew it would come based off of your energy and effort that you put into the thing that you have. | ||
| Realistically, I don't look at it that way. | ||
| How do you look at it? | ||
| I never look at a destination or a thing or something happening. | ||
| I just keep doing it. | ||
| I'm one of those weird grinders. | ||
| That's not weird. | ||
| That's a way for you to go. | ||
| But I trust the process, but I don't ever look at it like there's a destination, like a success moment, like a big thing. | ||
| A big thing hits. | ||
| I just keep doing it and those things sort of find their own way through management and agents and I've put very little thinking into that. | ||
| I put almost all my thinking into just doing the thing the best way that I can do it. | ||
| Metaphor for you then. | ||
| You're an amazing fucking fighter. | ||
| You are, I mean, I don't know how many black belts you fucking got. | ||
| I just know I wouldn't fuck with you. | ||
| But you got some shit with you, right? | ||
| And if you are practicing a kick or a move, if you do it, Let's say 200,000 times to make sure you get it perfect. | ||
| Are you doing that and figuring that out for the unknown or is it for, if I ever have to use it, I want it to be so fucking right. | ||
| Yeah, that's always there. | ||
| That's always there. | ||
| But the thing is always the technique. | ||
| The thing is always the process. | ||
| I think that's where I got this from podcasting and even from stand-up. | ||
| It's just the grind. | ||
| The process. | ||
| It comes from martial arts. | ||
| The grind is like you've got to be there every day. | ||
| If you're there three days a week, it's not as good as five. | ||
| You've got to be there five days a week. | ||
| And five might be better than seven, because sometimes seven you burn out. | ||
| You want to keep enthusiasm, because that's a fuel. | ||
| There's something about enthusiasm that you've got to balance discipline and enthusiasm. | ||
| Discipline's critical. | ||
| You have to be able to show up, but you also have to enjoy the shit out of it. | ||
| And so enjoying the shit out of it with discipline is the key. | ||
| But you've got to ride those babies out, you know? | ||
| You don't want to fuck every day. | ||
| Take a couple days off. | ||
| Take a couple days off. | ||
| Want it, you know, like people fuck every day. | ||
| You don't even know what fucking feels like. | ||
| Take three, four days off and smoke a joint and make out with your woman. | ||
| Get some energy back into it. | ||
| Do you feel like, and this is something that, you know, I never have a good I have an okay answer, but I don't feel like it's ever the best answer. | ||
| When people say, well, what do you do when you're not doing what you love, right? | ||
| And what I've said in the past and in the present as well is I think in order to do what you love, You gotta get through the obstacles of the things that you don't love. | ||
| In life, as you're trying to come up. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask. | ||
| Do you agree with that? | ||
| Getting over those hurdles and then eventually they lead you to the thing where you're like, okay, now I'm ready to pursue said thing that I want to do. | ||
| Or if you're in a job or a career and you're like, I fucking hate my job. | ||
| What I feel is like, even if you hate your job, You're supposed to be using that job for something to get to something, right? | ||
| And if you're not, then that should be the thing that you're figuring out. | ||
| Like, I don't like being here, but now that I'm here, I'm going to... | ||
| Do all that I can to get said thing so that I can then be comfortable enough to move here. | ||
| If you just go into those things with hate, because you were talking about enthusiasm, it made me think about it. | ||
| If you just got hate and you're just angry about what you're doing every day, then you're not even allowing yourself to figure out the plan of how to escape the thing that you hate to get to the thing that you love. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's important to have those jobs that suck, man. | ||
| They like cement your foundation. | ||
| Lifeguard. | ||
| Because you don't want to go back to those fucking places. | ||
| You don't want to go back to those terrible jobs where you got to get up and be uninspired all day long. | ||
| But if you can get through that, that's this rigid structure of discipline that allows you to apply that discipline to the things you love. | ||
| If you can apply discipline and learn how to apply it to something that sucks, And get free. | ||
| Have a game plan and get free. | ||
| Once you get free, you have that ability to get up and do things that suck. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| You're gonna get up and do things you love easier. | ||
| Even more. | ||
| And you're gonna remember construction sites and delivering newspapers and all the stupid jobs that I worked. | ||
| I think about those fucking things when I get up in the morning. | ||
| When I'm brushing my teeth, I think about them. | ||
| That's the fucking game. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the game. | ||
| That's why you gotta get through it. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| I say this, man, it's the story. | ||
| You're just putting that story together. | ||
| I don't think, you know, without the stories, what do you talk about? | ||
| What do you talk about? | ||
| What is the interesting side of conversation about your Growth or your journey. | ||
| If it's just the easiest... | ||
| I just took the highway and got off at the exit and right through the exit I found the gold. | ||
| Everybody else did. | ||
| It's no... | ||
| Or my dad was rich and I have a trust fund and I never have to work ever. | ||
| What is the interesting side to that? | ||
| There is no bonus in that. | ||
| I just fucking broke my goddamn back. | ||
| The dopest thing for me about doing that... | ||
| Was not being able to walk, but then being told that if I'm patient, I can recover fully. | ||
| I can get back to myself. | ||
| And me instantly thinking in my head, I can actually be better than what I was. | ||
| If he's telling me I can get back to 100%, I'm going to be better. | ||
| So the game instantly clicked on. | ||
| Alright, tomorrow we start, we play. | ||
| New level. | ||
| I can't fucking walk. | ||
| God damn, here we go. | ||
| Can't wipe my ass. | ||
| I'm not fucking getting it. | ||
| They say I can't get in the gym. | ||
| PT is some weird shit. | ||
| I'm just taking two steps on a fucking booster ball. | ||
| Alright, this is a little discouraging. | ||
| But I know they said I'm supposed to do it three days. | ||
| I'm going to listen to them. | ||
| But on those other four days, is there anything else that I can do to be working on? | ||
| Kevin, you can strengthen your lungs up working on your breathing. | ||
| Here's a breathing machine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What about my hands? | ||
| Is there any way my sense is tennis ball? | ||
| Can I be squeezing? | ||
| Should I be doing anything? | ||
| No, we don't have anything like that. | ||
| We don't recommend it. | ||
| So if I found something and I researched, if it's just motor skills and working on it, is that fine? | ||
| Yeah, that's fine. | ||
| But, you know, it's okay if that's what you want to do. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I saw that, yeah, I'm not getting the same. | ||
| The doctors are just telling me the stuff that I need to know. | ||
| Stay within those lines. | ||
| I'm going to find other things that I can do because I'm playing the game now. | ||
| I'm never going to overexert myself, but the game is to be better. | ||
| How do I be better than what I was? | ||
| Because if I do that, ooh, fuck. | ||
| For me, I just beat me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This ain't about nobody else. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about nobody else. | ||
| I just beat me. | ||
| If I can keep beating myself, pause, if I can keep doing that, then that means that I'm in a battle with the only person that fucking makes sense. | ||
| I'm in a battle with the only person That I really want to fucking be, and that's me. | ||
| I don't care about anybody else. | ||
| I have no worry or gripe about the next man or woman's journey or their level of success. | ||
| That's not what I'm up against. | ||
| If I can continue to outdo me from the day before, then I'm ahead. | ||
| And that's the newfound energy that I got out of life now. | ||
| I'm on this amazing Rocky story with myself. | ||
| It's in my head. | ||
| Nobody else is watching this movie but me. | ||
| It's in my head. | ||
| This is Rocky. | ||
| This is the comeback. | ||
| This is exactly what I saw in the movie. | ||
| I'm going to come back better than ever. | ||
| I'm going to be 41. My body's going to be ripped up. | ||
| I'm going to be about 8% body fat. | ||
| And then I'm ready. | ||
| Ready for what, Kevin? | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Ready to be better than you were before. | ||
| I don't know, but that's what I want. | ||
| I want that day to be like, yeah! | ||
| Now what? | ||
| And then I figure out what? | ||
| I figure out what that what is then. | ||
| Tell me, when you got injured, you were explaining it to me before the podcast, but I didn't want to talk too much about it because I wanted to hear it now so everybody could hear it. | ||
| What exactly was the injury? | ||
| I fractured my spine, right? | ||
| And it's either from my T10 to my L1 or from my L1 to my T10, whatever order that goes in. | ||
| So I... How many fractures is that? | ||
| I mean, that's fucking... | ||
| That's your spine. | ||
| That's about... | ||
| So you fractured basically everything. | ||
| I mean, you got like this much space in my back. | ||
| So you got to think, first of all, I'm already small. | ||
| So this is practically my whole back, if you look at this right here. | ||
| If you look at this, this is practically my whole back. | ||
| So all of this fractured. | ||
| And what happens is they had to fuse my spine. | ||
| So do they have to remove the discs in between? | ||
| They basically had to fix... | ||
| So the bones where it's fractured, basically your spine is now out of whack. | ||
| The things that keep your spine connected and that allow you the flexibility are out of whack. | ||
| I got pieces of those bone fragments that are out of place out. | ||
| So they gotta fuse that shit back together. | ||
| So I got eight screws. | ||
| Do they take the disc material out and compress it and then screw them all? | ||
| So is the bone all one piece now? | ||
| I think I'm one. | ||
| I don't know about the disc. | ||
| I don't have that answer. | ||
| That's a little too technical for me. | ||
| And I should know that because it was my body. | ||
| But what I do know is that this thing that's my spine has eight screws. | ||
| And these eight screws now hold it together. | ||
| So through this time of healing, because I now have metal in my back, it was about getting your back to be comfortable with the metal, but also back to a normal level of flexibility. | ||
| So where people fuck up, when you get this type of energy and you stay still, you allow that metal to get stiff. | ||
| You're not moving it. | ||
| So now your movements become robotic with it. | ||
| So because as soon as I got out the hospital, I started. | ||
| I didn't have days off. | ||
| As soon as I got out... | ||
| I started physical therapy. | ||
| I did not wait. | ||
| I got off medication. | ||
| I said, I'm not taking on meds. | ||
| You know, my dad was on drugs. | ||
| I was like, I'm not fucking around with that. | ||
| So I dealt with the pain, but I said, I gotta start now because every day that I wait, Makes it harder to go. | ||
| So because I was, you know, back and forth, side to side, doing all of those things, I got my body to get accustomed to it. | ||
| And I got flexibility. | ||
| So now when you see me working out, it looks as if I'm back. | ||
| And, you know, I'm probably 98% back to myself right now. | ||
| But the work that I put into my core and my upper body over the years are what saved me Outside of God, of course, in that situation. | ||
| Because, you know, I want to tell this people, just for you to know, this health and wellness shit is so much bigger than Then what you may think it is taking care of your body you don't know When all of that stuff comes into play and adds up correctly, | ||
| you know the the human body is amazing Recovery the ability to snap back and go back to what it once was the body muscle memory all of that stuff plays a major factor so my healing Was a lot faster because of the years of work that I put into it before. | ||
| Now, if I had enough and I didn't have that core, well, I'd be paralyzed. | ||
| I'd be fucking paralyzed. | ||
| I mean, they said, you're literally talking about this much. | ||
| Doctor, look me in the eyes. | ||
| You're lucky to be walking. | ||
| You're this much. | ||
| If your core wasn't in the shape that it was, and if you didn't have the strength to take whatever that impact was and stay, you would have been snapped and you would never be walking again. | ||
| So that instantly, thank God, I go, you know what? | ||
| Thank God for my trainer who jumped into my life at a certain time and changed my way of thinking. | ||
| Boss, Ronald Boss Everline. | ||
| And, you know, we've been rocking for seven years and the consistency of four years before of every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| So now I'm like, you're not wasting your time ever. | ||
| So when those people say, what are you working out for? | ||
| What are you getting in shape for? | ||
| Why are you going every day? | ||
| You don't know when you're gonna need to fucking tap into all of the work that you've done. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| You don't know if you'll ever need it. | ||
| But to just know that you've taken care of yourself, to know that you've given yourself a chance to fucking not only survive, but perform. | ||
| You've given yourself a chance to perform at a high level in the day-to-day by taking care of your engine. | ||
| This is my machine. | ||
| So I'm taking care of the engine. | ||
| Just like any car. | ||
| Oil changes, just like, you know, your fucking, your brakes, your tires, the rotors, all of that shit. | ||
| You taking care of that so that it's a great ride every time. | ||
| You gotta do the same with your body. | ||
| Don't ignore that shit, people. | ||
| You know, we dropping like flies right now. | ||
| Heart attacks, strokes, you know, kidney failure. | ||
| You got people with diabetes. | ||
| You got people getting legs or arms cut off from bad eating, from bad eating over the course of years. | ||
| Take that shit serious. | ||
| Don't wait till the end. | ||
| That's serious. | ||
| That's not a joke. | ||
| So when I look at people dying around me, we have no control over when the day is going to come, but I'm going to try to help amplify my time here as much as I can. | ||
| That's the big one, right? | ||
| Amplify your time. | ||
| You have energy. | ||
| You have a different kind of energy than someone who's unhealthy. | ||
| You have the ability to push forward. | ||
| You have the ability to get shit done. | ||
| You have more enthusiasm because your body feels good. | ||
| Why do you not... | ||
| I want to be careful the way I say this because I don't want to seem like I'm coming down on anybody that's not. | ||
| But why don't you want to take care of yourself? | ||
| I think they do. | ||
| I think it's just habits are very hard to break. | ||
| There's a lot of comfort in just the same thing every day. | ||
| Open up the cabinet, Twinkies, fuck it. | ||
| I'll start tomorrow. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I feel like eating those chips. | ||
| And you just settle into it. | ||
| And then there's this disappointment that comes from settling in. | ||
| And it's comfort and it's disappointment at the same time. | ||
| You're like, well, I guess that's me. | ||
| And you accept it. | ||
| And I think sometimes people are scared of improvement because they're scared of failure. | ||
| So if they can just kind of slide into the same bullshit every day, it makes them feel less uneasy. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| What I say and what I will say goes back to the decision, goes back to information. | ||
| It's not bad if you want those things. | ||
| I don't think that people are supposed to live a robotic life and, you know, I don't eat this ever and I don't do this. | ||
| Well, I was pointing to The Rock in his fucking cheat days. | ||
| I mean, his fucking cheat days. | ||
| First of all, he eats for a village. | ||
| That son of a bitch. | ||
| Well, he is a village. | ||
| It's unreal what he puts down when he puts down. | ||
| And that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You should enjoy yourself and enjoy your life. | ||
| But I think that there... | ||
| Should be a give and take. | ||
| Like, alright, I'm going to eat the way I want to eat. | ||
| I'm not compromising that because I love food. | ||
| But let me put a half hour in a day. | ||
| Of walking. | ||
| Let me do something so where I'm active, so there's at least a give and take. | ||
| That's what I would say to people out there. | ||
| I'm not saying in no way, shape or form, don't do this ever and that's wrong and you're living, you're gonna destroy yourself. | ||
| No, that's unrealistic. | ||
| That's unrealistic. | ||
| I think you should definitely be happy. | ||
| You should definitely do the things that you enjoy. | ||
| Because like I said, In my mind, this is a game. | ||
| You're playing the game. | ||
| Be happy while you're playing it. | ||
| Don't be miserable. | ||
| One way to play the game is to challenge yourself. | ||
| Give yourself a month. | ||
| Write down for a month. | ||
| For one month, I'm not drinking a single soda. | ||
| For one month, I'm going to do something, some exercise every day, and I'm going to write down what it is. | ||
| For one month. | ||
| The fucking game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's how I think. | ||
| I don't know if that's a book title or not. | ||
| Or if it hasn't, has been or hasn't. | ||
| But God damn it, that could be my next one. | ||
| The Game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now I know you guys are hearing this. | ||
| I think it may be. | ||
| But maybe, you know, The Game of Life. | ||
| That's something. | ||
| But it's something there. | ||
| It's such a synergy thing. | ||
| Within that... | ||
| Maybe just call it game. | ||
| Something. | ||
| It's there. | ||
| Your statement of there's a game-like quality to life resonates. | ||
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| As soon as you said that, I was like, ooh, that's it. | ||
| That's the way to look at it. | ||
| Don't just look at it like life. | ||
| Look at it like you're trying to succeed. | ||
| You're trying to get ahead and win. | ||
| The game-like quality of life. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's a dope thing. | ||
| I'm going to really harp on that. | ||
| So you're recovering from your back injury. | ||
| How long ago was the injury? | ||
| How long ago was the crash now? | ||
| September. | ||
| So what is that? | ||
| September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April. | ||
| What's this? | ||
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| Yeah, so only eight months. | ||
| It was about to be June, so about to be nine. | ||
| About to get into nine. | ||
| And you said you're like 98%? | ||
| 98%. | ||
| I'm down to probably 10% body fat right now. | ||
| And as far as like movement, you can basically do everything? | ||
| I'm doing everything. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Doing everything. | ||
| I'm up to running again. | ||
| I'm probably at... | ||
| I'm probably at three... | ||
| I can go three and a half miles straight before I'm like, ooh! | ||
| The back starts to bother you? | ||
| Yeah, before I get tight. | ||
| And what are you doing for the back? | ||
| Are you doing yoga? | ||
| Are you doing... | ||
| What kind of exercises are you doing? | ||
| I got physical therapy. | ||
| You know, that's random. | ||
| Shout out to Dr. Pat. | ||
| You know, I make sure that getting the massages, getting the work done... | ||
| Because I'm doing so much within working out, I don't want to not take care of that as well. | ||
| So from heating it, from treatment, just literally doing things to make sure that I'm constantly working on those muscles and not forgetting them. | ||
| I'm getting older. | ||
| I don't want to act like that's not... | ||
| I'm 40 now. | ||
| So how do I take care of this machine? | ||
| So at 50, I'm not moving as if I'm 70. I'll say that's been a great adjustment. | ||
| But one that's really made me feel better, like stretching. | ||
| You know, I didn't understand the importance of stretching, of actually resting. | ||
| You know, I was, gotta get it. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| Let's go time. | ||
| Weights. | ||
| Hit it. | ||
| Clanging and banging, baby. | ||
| Clanging and banging. | ||
| But now, you know, make sure you get your rest time so that you can come back and give the energy. | ||
| Your cardio changes. | ||
| I'm on a bike. | ||
| I'm Pelotoning. | ||
| I'm Hydroing. | ||
| I'm running. | ||
| So the workouts change and you become more consistent with your system, with my new system. | ||
| So I think by July, July, my goal is for my 41st birthday, that's July 6th, to be around 8, 8.5% body fat at the age of 41. So it's all about looking good with the body fat? | ||
| For me, the body fat means that I've just been super focused. | ||
| I eat. | ||
| I don't want people to think that I don't eat. | ||
| I'm not a foodie, though, so it doesn't really count, but I'm not on some strict, crazy diet. | ||
| You're not a foodie like you don't enjoy... | ||
| I'm not a foodie, man. | ||
| I don't eat red meat. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I eat no red meat, no fish, no seafood. | ||
| I'm a plant-based eater. | ||
| Everything's plant. | ||
| I'll go chicken every once in a while. | ||
| I'll dabble into my chicken. | ||
| And that's what people don't understand. | ||
| I don't think people really... | ||
| Get that or understand that. | ||
| It's like just because you make the decision to go and try plant-based doesn't mean that you have to engulf in that world. | ||
| Learn it. | ||
| Understand it. | ||
| And see if there's benefits that work for you. | ||
| I stopped eating red meat so much because I learned that I didn't have to have it. | ||
| I thought that I needed it. | ||
| To survive. | ||
| That's what I was under the mindset. | ||
| Like, if I don't eat this, things are going to change for me. | ||
| That's what I thought. | ||
| But once I found out there was protein and things and other foods and other resources, and then I started to learn more about the plant-based food space, I was like, I'm going to give it a try. | ||
| And I started trying to Beyond Meat. | ||
| And I fucking fell in love with Beyond Meat. | ||
| I was like, I don't feel a difference. | ||
| Let me tell you something right now. | ||
| Those Beyond Meat things are not good for you. | ||
| I love them. | ||
| I'm sure you do. | ||
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I love them. | |
| I'm sure you enjoy them. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
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I love them. | |
| If you're going to be plant-based, that's not the way to go. | ||
| In terms of the overall health, it's not bad if you want just taste. | ||
| If you enjoy just mouth pleasure. | ||
| But they're not good for you. | ||
| It's all oils. | ||
| It's all this plant-based oils, and it's all processed and weird. | ||
| Just eat vegetables. | ||
| What you are is a very smart man, so I would never challenge the information that you may have that I don't have. | ||
| So now, after being told such a thing, I would look and see for myself. | ||
| But I can say to date... | ||
| I love the Beyond option because it's not only taking the place of the meat. | ||
| I like the different versions of it that's available. | ||
| As long as you're enjoying it. | ||
| Nothing wrong with something you're enjoying. | ||
| You're obviously very healthy. | ||
| Yeah, I can say I haven't seen... | ||
| I'll put it this way. | ||
| Since going plant-based and... | ||
| Jumping into that space and choosing that. | ||
| Because there was a moment where you had the impossible, you had the beyond, and you had all this stuff that was out there, and you're trying everything. | ||
| I liked that one the most. | ||
| So after liking the beyond one the most, then I said, let me see if I can be more consistent. | ||
| Since doing that, I've seen a significant change in just being... | ||
| More vibrant, more up and at it. | ||
| Like, you know, my days were always long, so there used to be a wall that I would hit. | ||
| You know, when I was eating and I was red meat, whether it be the burger patty without the bun, whether it was steak and eggs for protein, whatever it was, I would always hit a wall a day where, you know, I'm dozing. | ||
| I'm dozing and I'm crashing. | ||
| I don't have those crashes. | ||
| Maybe you weren't getting enough carbohydrates. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Once again, Joe, you're a very smart man, so I'm not going to challenge your knowledge because I know that this is a space where you're well equipped. | ||
| You do your research, you read, you know. | ||
| I've heard you talk about things various times. | ||
| In this space, I'll just say it's one of those things where I was like, okay, this is a pattern that I fell into. | ||
| It's been comfortable, but I've seen the results. | ||
| That's all that matters. | ||
| And there's bio-variability that everybody has to take into consideration. | ||
| Like, your body's gonna be different than Jamie's, it's gonna be different than mine, everybody's body's gonna respond different to different kind of foods. | ||
| It's really different, you know? | ||
| Some people work great off of just fish. | ||
| I know people that are on a carnivore diet, and they're in the healthiest shape they've ever been in their life. | ||
| All they eat is red meat, they use ribeyes all day long. | ||
| And you go, what the fuck? | ||
| That doesn't even make any sense. | ||
| Meanwhile, they look great, and they'll swear to you they've never felt better. | ||
| Psoriasis is gone, joint pain gone, healthier than ever. | ||
| And then I know other people that are all 100% plant-based, and they're like, I got off my meds, I feel great. | ||
| I think focus on eating properly, whether it's eating properly plant-based or eating properly with a carnivore diet, just cutting out all the bullshit. | ||
| And focusing on the fact that you're eating for health and for vitality. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| You just said the key thing, though. | ||
| The key things you just said is people are doing different things that work for them. | ||
| There is no right or wrong way, and I think that's the biggest misconception. | ||
| The misconception is that you're doing it wrong. | ||
| There's one way. | ||
| There's only one. | ||
| Nah, don't do that. | ||
| Don't eat that. | ||
| There's a lot of ways. | ||
| There's so many different ways that can work for you. | ||
| Don't be afraid to try myself. | ||
| Or just experience what those options are and find your comfort space. | ||
| That's why I say within that plant-based space, people that go, yeah, man, I'm plant-based, but I feel bad because I ate something. | ||
| There is no rule to what you want to do for you. | ||
| And you've got to be open to making adjustments, too. | ||
| Do you know C.T. Fletcher? | ||
| I do know of him. | ||
| I don't know him, but I know of him. | ||
| Love that guy to death. | ||
| Hulk! | ||
| He's as motivational as anybody that's ever lived. | ||
| He had a heart attack, had his heart replaced, got a new heart, and I don't think he's confirmed it, but he believes it's an Asian woman. | ||
| I don't know if that's how he feels, or like he's had some weird feelings about having this other person's heart inside of his body. | ||
| And he went 100% plant-based. | ||
| Just changed everything. | ||
| Changed his entire diet and puts all these videos up about it. | ||
| He thinks his heart came from an Asian woman. | ||
| He believes his heart came from an Asian woman. | ||
| I don't think he's confirmed that because I don't think they tell you. | ||
| But I think he's... | ||
| Would you want to know? | ||
| Do you want to know? | ||
| Yeah, I kind of want to know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe he knows now. | ||
| I don't believe he knew last time I saw him in here. | ||
| But... | ||
| The first time I met him, he's a powerful guy. | ||
| It's still your motherfucking set. | ||
| He's that guy. | ||
| And he's just always this booming voice and just gigantic muscles and he's all drive and go. | ||
| And then when his heart failed, and then he had to have his heart replaced, I saw him about a year later, and he had this remarkable calm that had come over him. | ||
| He was just like this different person, very loving and embracing, and had all this happiness and all this joy and all this appreciation. | ||
| And now all he needs is plants. | ||
| And he swears by it. | ||
| It's that light. | ||
| For him, that's the way to go. | ||
| No, I'm talking about that light. | ||
| I saw that light. | ||
| When you come close to that light, and that light that I'm talking about is death. | ||
| If you come close to that light, when you do and if you are fortunate enough to come back from that light, you value life differently. | ||
| There are no bad days for me. | ||
| There are no bad days for me. | ||
| My biggest cry in life came from the first day that I came home from the hospital. | ||
| Because I never had to see that house again. | ||
| There was an option of me never seeing that home again. | ||
| There was an option of me never walking on that driveway again. | ||
| There was an option of me never seeing my wife and my kids again. | ||
| It wasn't like a build-up cry. | ||
| It was pull up, get out, feet touch the ground. | ||
| What the fuck just came over me? | ||
| Boo-hoo. | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
| What just happened? | ||
| And by the way, a painful cry because my back was fucked up. | ||
| So I'm crying hard and I'm in pain. | ||
| But the realization of none of this has to be, you're not in control. | ||
| Hey, Kevin, you're not in control, buddy. | ||
| You thought you were. | ||
| You move for a minute like, nah, I got this. | ||
| I'm going to do that. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| We'll be good. | ||
| I'm going to make sure it happens. | ||
| As if you were in control. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's literally that. | ||
| At any decision, at any given time, it can be over. | ||
| And it's not until you get close to that light that you truly respect that. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| There are no bad days. | ||
| Hey man, miss me with any bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm smiling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I have no reason to be angry because I don't have to be here. | ||
| You appreciate that sunshine because you've been in the pouring rain. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Hey, hey. | ||
| That's a fuck yes. | ||
| So when you talk about C.T. Fletcher and you talk about his calm, you know what, man? | ||
| I've been on the other side. | ||
| He's been, yeah! | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| And that's great! | ||
| That doesn't mean that he doesn't still have that, but now there's a different energy and a different level of relaxation that can come because I know how fortunate I am to be taking these steps. | ||
| Yeah, it's not just a theory. | ||
| Like, every day really, truly is a gift. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| And you take it for granted. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| You take it for fucking granted, man. | ||
| I'm gonna tell you, not being able to wipe my ass changed everything. | ||
| Do you got one of them bidets in your house? | ||
| You press the button and it shoots the water up your ass? | ||
| I couldn't even do that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I couldn't do that. | ||
| I'm talking, you take it for granted. | ||
| You take it for granted, man. | ||
| All of this, all of this conversation, this clapping, this easy, yo. | ||
| Hey, come here. | ||
| All this shit here, you just think it's okay. | ||
| You go through a situation where it's compromised. | ||
| How long did it take before you could start walking again, normal? | ||
| Or semi-normal? | ||
| I lied in a hospital because I didn't want them to know. | ||
| That I was having pain because I thought that they were going to stop me from letting me continue to try my walks. | ||
| It was like day seven in the hospital and I had the walker and it was slow walks but I was dragging. | ||
| It was upper body. | ||
| And I was masking it as if I was feet, right? | ||
| Because I didn't want to stop trying. | ||
| Like that was my... | ||
| That was my fucking, my go get, my drive for anything was that half hour or 40 where I could get up and go walk. | ||
| Because I was just laying in the bed all day. | ||
| And, you know, God bless me and my wife and my kids. | ||
| There's times, like, if this is the remote control, and I'm in the bed, and I just want to get to the control, Well, I can't get to it. | ||
| If you didn't position the control down here by my hands so I could get it, this here throws my whole fucking... | ||
| So now I can't press the button to call nerves and every second is, babe, can you grab the control for me? | ||
| Have do. | ||
| And there was a time where my son was like, fuck it. | ||
| My son just slept in the bed with me. | ||
| My son, he was like, I'm here, Dad. | ||
| I'm up. | ||
| My son didn't want to go to school. | ||
| My daughter didn't want to go to school. | ||
| They didn't want to leave my side. | ||
| They stayed there. | ||
| And middle of the night, if they heard me... | ||
| You alright dad? | ||
| What you want? | ||
| They were up. | ||
| My son doubled as nurse. | ||
| My daughter doubled as nurse. | ||
| Nico doubled as it. | ||
| They were there. | ||
| My brother came. | ||
| And that's when the care about what was important really changed. | ||
| The shit that I thought was important. | ||
| The things that you think are important. | ||
| You get to looking around that hospital room. | ||
| There's four walls. | ||
| None of that shit that you think is important is in there. | ||
| It's one of these people. | ||
| None of the other shit was in there. | ||
| None of it. | ||
| None of it was fucking in there. | ||
| It's also got to make you feel great that there's that much love, that they cared about you that much. | ||
| That's what gets you through it. | ||
| So those little steps that I was taking, the discomfort of not being able to do, the love and energy made me go, it's going to be alright, I'm going to get there. | ||
| Because you definitely feel defeated for a little bit. | ||
| And so, how long before you were walking without a walker? | ||
| I was stubborn, man. | ||
| So probably two and a half weeks. | ||
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| Two and a half weeks. | ||
| I should have had the walker, though. | ||
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| I should have had the walker, but I'm giving the perception that it's better than what it is. | ||
| And I had the back brace on. | ||
| You faked it till you make it. | ||
| I definitely was, hey, smiling. | ||
| What's up, y'all? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Good morning, everybody. | ||
| Given this perception of... | ||
| Bill Burr told me he went to visit you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bill came to see me. | ||
| And he said, he goes, see, the fucking guy's already walking around. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Given the perception, because I don't want you to... | ||
| To worry. | ||
| It's me. | ||
| I'm going through it. | ||
| I'm going to figure it out. | ||
| I don't want that worry placed on anybody else. | ||
| I told you, I stopped fucking taking meds. | ||
| So every night was a horrible night. | ||
| That's so much better for you, though. | ||
| Just accept that pain. | ||
| Every night. | ||
| I did that with my knee surgery, and it's obviously a much less painful thing, but... | ||
| I was like, I took that shit once for one of my knee surgeries one day, and I was like, I feel so fucking stupid. | ||
| I slobbered on myself. | ||
| That's when I said no, no. | ||
| I was talking a piece of slobber. | ||
| Yeah, I was by myself, alone in my apartment, and I was thinking, this was back when I lived in New York, and I was like, I am not doing this again. | ||
| This is one day. | ||
| I'd rather be in searing pain and have my senses than to be stupid. | ||
| I felt so dumb. | ||
| Felt dumb. | ||
| Dumb and just like... | ||
| This is not me. | ||
| I'm not into escape. | ||
| I don't want to escape. | ||
| I want to dig deep. | ||
| Not that bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'd rather just feel the pain. | ||
| I'm not looking for it that bad. | ||
| It's a sensation. | ||
| It's a terrible sensation, but I know what it is. | ||
| It's just letting me know that there's a problem, and we'll fix that problem eventually. | ||
| I don't like the look that comes with being high. | ||
| When I see what people look like, I don't like that look. | ||
| The pill high? | ||
| See, I like the weed high. | ||
| No, I'm talking about this shit here. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| When you don't know what you... | ||
| This shit here, you don't know what's going on with your hands. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| I don't want to look like that. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's people that are in so much pain all day, just emotionally, that they just need some sort of escape from it. | ||
| Instead of embracing it. | ||
| I will not knock... | ||
| dealing with any type of mental struggle because that is something that's so serious because nobody understands what that is except that person. | ||
| So I never talk as if that's an easy thing. | ||
| I talk as if that's a thing that I don't fully know about. | ||
| So you can only... | ||
| Have some type of remorse and feeling of understanding for people that are battling any type of mental illness or mental health. | ||
| Because that's just a different monster and a different machine. | ||
| So whatever the reasons to escape that are for you and from you, that's something that's TBD. To be determined between you and whoever's trying to help you. | ||
| People on the outside, we got no right... | ||
| We got no right if you're not fucking dealing with the same thing. | ||
| You got no right to judge that ever. | ||
| There's no way we can understand what's going on. | ||
| No way I can understand what's going on in your head other than you telling me about it and me trying to decipher it and trying to put it into words. | ||
| But that's one of the more interesting things about talking to people. | ||
| It's like when you talk to people and you find out how they feel and think about things, it shifts your own ideas of what life is. | ||
| And I try to look at life through other people's eyes. | ||
| And the only way you get that is through them talking. | ||
| I mean, I'm dealing with it now with my kids. | ||
| I got two teenagers. | ||
| So my daughter, you know, my daughter got mad. | ||
| This is a while ago. | ||
| She got so mad. | ||
| She was like, just forget it! | ||
| It was like a little rage. | ||
| I didn't attack her for it. | ||
| I said, there's something that made you do that. | ||
| It's bigger than just this. | ||
| It's not about what we're dealing with now. | ||
| I said, that was something else that I've never seen. | ||
| And I said, I'm gonna give you a second. | ||
| Take some time to yourself. | ||
| I said, and later, if you want to talk about anything, your dad is here. | ||
| I said, let's talk if you want to. | ||
| And we got this thing called free speaking zone in our house. | ||
| Free speaking zone means, as a parent, I can't get mad at you about what you said. | ||
| I gotta give you a conversation based off of what you said. | ||
| And I gotta act as if you're not my child for that moment. | ||
| You cannot abuse free speaking zone, though. | ||
| You can't abuse it. | ||
| That don't mean every time you're in trouble, free speaking zone, you're abusing it. | ||
| And now you risk free speaking zone going away. | ||
| I like that idea. | ||
| So you gotta use it correctly. | ||
| So my daughter came to me in the nicest voice. | ||
| She was like, free speaking zone. | ||
| And I was like, yeah. | ||
| I said, what's up? | ||
| And she just started talking to me about some things that were bothering her. | ||
| And when we talk, what I found is I can relate to my daughter because I know for sure that where I come from, it's allowed me to see exactly what she's seeing plus so much more. | ||
| Plus so much more. | ||
| And this was a time where the hair was an issue. | ||
| My daughter went through a big hair thing. | ||
| You know, she wanted her hair to be a certain way. | ||
| And the hair wouldn't... | ||
| There was no way that her hair was going to be able to look like what she wanted it to. | ||
| So the discussion was, honey, as a young black girl... | ||
| Your hair is not going to do what your friend's hair does. | ||
| You know, my daughter goes to a private school. | ||
| So there's white girls here. | ||
| You got some mixed girls here. | ||
| And, you know, these girls are out and they can jump in the pool, get out and their hair is a certain way. | ||
| I'm like, honey, yours isn't going to do that. | ||
| But if you want a different look, then that means that we can work on ways to obtain it. | ||
| But honey, it's not going to happen overnight. | ||
| And I had to make sure that my daughter understood how beautiful she was. | ||
| I had to make sure that my daughter understood why it's okay for her hair to be different and be unique and not the same. | ||
| I had to go into a full father programming of making you understand your value. | ||
| And my daughter needed that. | ||
| But it wasn't something that just came out of nowhere. | ||
| Like, Dad, I want to talk to you about my hair. | ||
| It was an anger that she later then came and wanted to discuss. | ||
| But if I didn't have the free speaking zone, that's some shit that just would have been in and never talked about. | ||
| But I gave her something that she used to As a reason to say what I don't like and don't judge me, Dad, but this is really making me mad. | ||
| Well, it seems like you've developed this philosophy that applies not just to work and not just to success, but also to family and relationships. | ||
| There's a lot of carryover in all of this. | ||
| It's like accepting things for what they are, but looking at a positive way to improve them, even in terms of just communication with your family. | ||
| I mean, that's priority. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Priority number one. | ||
| I mean, that's the... | ||
| It's so dope to be able to build what we're building. | ||
| Because it's not a tradition. | ||
| This is not... | ||
| We don't have a family tradition. | ||
| We're the first. | ||
| This is the first. | ||
| I don't come from mom and dad, same house, kids, dogs, and dinner at night at 6 p.m. | ||
| I don't come from that. | ||
| I don't know how to do that. | ||
| So we are now learning that. | ||
| Divorced, ex-wife, new wife, stepkids, new kid, Brothers and sisters, coincide with ex-wife, new wife. | ||
| Make sure that we all understand this is our world. | ||
| How do we co-parent? | ||
| Bumps, of course. | ||
| Figuring it out, of course. | ||
| Kids. | ||
| Household. | ||
| In our household, let's build something. | ||
| Dinners. | ||
| Let's make this a thing. | ||
| Conversations. | ||
| No phones. | ||
| Let's make it a thing. | ||
| Movie night. | ||
| Taco Tuesdays. | ||
| Game night. | ||
| All this silly shit that you may look past are memories. | ||
| Family trips. | ||
| Family walks. | ||
| Walking the dogs together. | ||
| All of this shit we're building. | ||
| So I'm fascinated by At giving my kids stories to hold on to. | ||
| When they get older, remember that time when we did said thing, said thing, said thing? | ||
| Where were we at that summer? | ||
| Remember when such and such happened and you fell in the thing and dad had to come get you? | ||
| Oh my God, you know what? | ||
| Dad, you know what I want to go back to? | ||
| You know what we want to do? | ||
| We're building it. | ||
| So my hope is that as I grow older, I'm able to look at a new A new era within the heart. | ||
| Within this heart family name, this heart legacy. | ||
| I'm looking at generations. | ||
| You know, I got two sons. | ||
| I got two sons, man. | ||
| That's an unbelievable thing because this name goes. | ||
| I got a daughter that's my oldest. | ||
| I'm about to have another daughter. | ||
| Like, now it's like, fuck. | ||
| Kev, you really... | ||
| It's bigger than you. | ||
| It's about this. | ||
| And it's about what they have, but it's about what they remember. | ||
| I'm doing my part in life, to go back to what we talked about earlier, by making this generation better than what I was. | ||
| I'm giving you the fucking tools, guys. | ||
| You don't got to do what I do. | ||
| You don't got to be what I am. | ||
| But I'm giving you the tools to at least want to aspire to be. | ||
| Is there a struggle to find time, like to manage the time between work and family, relationships? | ||
| Not after that accident. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not after that fucking accident. | ||
| Accident was the best eye-opening experience ever. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I was married to my career, dating my family. | ||
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| I'm all about this work and all about this hustle. | ||
| Granted, there's nothing wrong with that. | ||
| It's a good thing. | ||
| But after a certain point, you gotta prioritize accordingly. | ||
| When you get to a certain point where the decisions that can be made are a little more controlled and you have the ability to maneuver differently because of the success that you've obtained, make those adjustments. | ||
| I didn't make those adjustments. | ||
| I was still hustle, hustle, hustle. | ||
| Granted, great dad. | ||
| We're doing stuff. | ||
| I'm home. | ||
| I'm getting back home. | ||
| But my in and outs, three days, I'm out. | ||
| Two days, three days, I'm out. | ||
| I gotta go film the movie. | ||
| Y'all come down for the weekends. | ||
| Alright, I see you guys. | ||
| We'll eat dinner. | ||
| We'll do stuff. | ||
| And it's great. | ||
| Crammed it all in. | ||
| Alright, y'all. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| I'm working. | ||
| And it's not bad. | ||
| But now... | ||
| Alright, I'll film a movie. | ||
| After I'm done filming a movie, I need to take 30 days off. | ||
| I need to take 40 days off. | ||
| That's just with me and the fam. | ||
| Now, hey, you go tour, it was just, pow, year and a half, we out. | ||
| Four days out the fucking week, I'm out, year and a half, I got to get it. | ||
| Well, now, let's go a month and a half, let's stop for three weeks. | ||
| I'm with the fam. | ||
| So I still have my three days a week that I was here, but then I'm going to stop for three weeks. | ||
| This is dedicated to fam time. | ||
| Don't nobody do anything with me or talk to me. | ||
| I'm home. | ||
| Now, my office, I was in that office when we fucking opened. | ||
| Office opened at nine. | ||
| I'm there at eight. | ||
| You know, there's a chance that I may be in that office till fucking six. | ||
| Now, yo, no matter what, guys, that day in the office has to end at like three. | ||
| I gotta be home for dinner. | ||
| I got dinner with the fam. | ||
| My priorities have changed. | ||
| But it brings me back to the decisions that you're now able to make based off of life's circumstances, life's lessons. | ||
| So because of all the shit that I went through, because of the things that I now got to see, Because of that hospital room and those four walls and me seeing my family and what that love did for me and to me. | ||
| Well, I'd be damned if I fucking look past that. | ||
| I'd be damned if I not do what I'm supposed to do and give that the same amount of attention in return. | ||
| Because my eyes got open. | ||
| Fuck, is that why that happened? | ||
| What are you saying to me? | ||
| Was I supposed to? | ||
| What? | ||
| Okay, I'm going to assume. | ||
| I'm going to assume and I'm going to look at the signs that are clearly being given and I'm going to try my best to do my part. | ||
| I'm going to try my best to grow. | ||
| So my time now is so valuable but the priority within my time are making sure that the people that I love and that love me have some time. | ||
| When it's all said and done, I want to know that I made those adjustments. | ||
| I want to know that I did my part. | ||
| You achieved that balance. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But it was learned. | ||
| It was learned. | ||
| Now this is information. | ||
| It's fucking information. | ||
| And there's one side of information that I had, which was, go get it. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I got to go get it. | ||
| I don't got time to be fucking staying there, man. | ||
| It's shit to do. | ||
| Which I still do do. | ||
| I don't want to make it seem like that isn't in me. | ||
| But there's a balance. | ||
| There's now a balance. | ||
| That's the trickiest shit in life. | ||
| Yeah, it's to find that balance. | ||
| Find a balance. | ||
| Not just be a fucking savage out there grinding and attacking all day, but to have that balance and appreciate, especially appreciate family, right? | ||
| It's something that I've had to learn. | ||
| And that I'm still learning. | ||
| It's not something that I've knocked out the park completely yet because it's a growing fucking... | ||
| It's a living thing. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You gotta just keep being a sponge and being willing to fucking grow. | ||
| Tell me about this Audible thing. | ||
| Audible is an amazing partner of mine now. | ||
| My first book, I can't make this up, Life Lessons. | ||
| Was a New York Times number one bestseller, and I got bit. | ||
| I got bit by the bug. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| As an author, I wanted to write a book. | ||
| I did it. | ||
| Look at the success that it had. | ||
| The opportunity came up for me to voice that book on Audible. | ||
| And the Audible success was just as good, if not greater, than my hardcover. | ||
| And people loved the fact that the stories were real, but hearing my voice... | ||
| And hearing me be personable while being real was a bonus from other things than they've ever had the privilege of listening to. | ||
| So I said, I want to do another one, man, but I'm big on this motivation, self-help, inspiration thing. | ||
| I'm really big on trying to do my part. | ||
| So, as I was telling you earlier, I said, in my life, man, I got so... | ||
| So many stories of all of my twists and turns and right moves and wrong moves and decision-making that enhanced those moves or that devalued them and made them incorrect. | ||
| Ultimately, if I were to give information, it's just to open up people's eyes. | ||
| It's to open up your eyes to To the reality of you competing with you. | ||
| I want people to understand that we lose because we are okay with ignoring our faults, right? | ||
| It's not until you can accept your faults, your bullshit, that you can grow and do better. | ||
| We point the finger a lot by we, myself included. | ||
| I'm an example of it. | ||
| Yo, I didn't do that because nobody told me. | ||
| I didn't get up. | ||
| I didn't hear the alarm. | ||
| Why didn't you call me and get me up? | ||
| Yo, I didn't know we was going to go eat. | ||
| Didn't nobody tell me we was going to go eat. | ||
| I would've came to eat, but y'all ain't tell me. | ||
| I ain't know we had a test today. | ||
| Why didn't you tell me we had a test today? | ||
| I ain't study. | ||
| Because ain't nobody reach out and tell me. | ||
| There's so many things that we place the blame on others for that are truly our responsibility. | ||
| And it becomes a habit. | ||
| It's a force of habit. | ||
| So it's not until you break that habit. | ||
| That you can do bigger and better shit. | ||
| So this audible original of mine called The Decision is about making you look at shit differently. | ||
| Making you realize the tone of today and making you understand how much you're a part of it. | ||
| I got a big thing on social media in there where I'm like social media is mindfuck people and to people now thinking that it's what the world thinks. | ||
| Social media has mindfucked people into thinking that the comments below a post are what the world must be feeling and thinking about you. | ||
| The insecurity levels have raised to an all-time high because my belief is now I posted something. | ||
| People are saying these things underneath. | ||
| I don't want to go outside because this is how they feel. | ||
| So I've now put this shit in my head that as soon as I walk outside, if you look at me, you're talking about my post, ain't you? | ||
| What post? | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| You saw my post, didn't you? | ||
| And that's why you're looking at me like that. | ||
| What? | ||
| We now think that this is the way Of the world. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we're so engulfed into it that the negative is so loud that you don't even see the positive. | ||
| Even if it's overwhelmingly positive. | ||
| Just a few negatives. | ||
| You don't see it. | ||
| You concentrate on those negatives. | ||
| You don't see it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was a black billionaire that paid off student loans. | ||
| It was a story for about a day and a half. | ||
| Another story popped up of reality tar sucked somebody dick in the bathroom. | ||
| It went on for three weeks. | ||
| It was fucking crazy news. | ||
| It's breaking fucking news. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's all over the place. | ||
| The reason why is because we spread the negative. | ||
| As people, we've fallen in love. | ||
| With bad information and bad conversation, we're intrigued by it. | ||
| Well, it's a natural human instinct because those are the things that can kill you. | ||
| From the days when we were living in small villages worried about animals attacking us, you had to be always worried about negative. | ||
| Negative was a thing you had to concentrate on because that could take your life. | ||
| Positive was something that's great, that's good and all, but you really got to concentrate on negative. | ||
| And unfortunately, that human instinct is carried over. | ||
| Into this time where we don't really have the same fear of danger that we had before for the most part. | ||
| But we still concentrate on these negative things. | ||
| We still concentrate on negative comments, negative stories. | ||
| These negative things carry more weight. | ||
| Because we have a natural inclination to keep an eye out for danger. | ||
| It's like our human reward system has been hijacked. | ||
| It's been hijacked by social media. | ||
| This new thing that we're not prepared for. | ||
| Reading anonymous, written things that are negative. | ||
| There's a book called The Coddling of the American Mind by Jonathan Haidt. | ||
| And he wrote about this with children, about how many, especially girls, so many girls are experiencing super high levels of self-harm, suicide, depression, all because of social media. | ||
| Because they're writing things and their friends are commenting on them and people are anonymously saying, you stupid fat bitch. | ||
| And they're like, ooh! | ||
| And it fucks with their head in a way that other generations before didn't have to deal with. | ||
| Before social media, there was nothing that could affect them in this way. | ||
| And it's tough because there's gifts and there's curses to it, of course. | ||
| There's an amazing benefit behind it, and of course now we're seeing the bad within it. | ||
| So what I encourage any and everybody to do is just understand who you are. | ||
| Truly understand who you are. | ||
| Learn yourself. | ||
| Learn yourself. | ||
| Learn your pros and your cons. | ||
| Get your flaws. | ||
| Get them out the way, but with you, not nobody else. | ||
| This is a you and you thing of the shit that you know you need to work on. | ||
| I'm telling you people, when you really look yourself in the mirror and you start to pick yourself apart by yourself, there's only room for improvement. | ||
| It's easy to ignore your bullshit. | ||
| Also, other people can't tell you things you don't already know. | ||
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Fuck! | |
| You're a thousand percent right. | ||
| You're a thousand percent right. | ||
| And that's what this is. | ||
| My audio book is not a live like me tutorial. | ||
| It's not a do what I did tutorial. | ||
| I would never do that because I don't have all the answers. | ||
| All I have is stories and information that you can now be privy to That can allow you to make different fucking turns on this road of life. | ||
| What was the motivation to do this? | ||
| Was there a one thing or was it a build up? | ||
| Me being one of the only black guys in our entertainment space because there's a handful of us that get to look behind the curtain. | ||
| There's a curtain. | ||
| There's another room and there's a curtain. | ||
| And in that room is some shit. | ||
| You're like, God damn, I didn't know y'all was fucking doing this back here. | ||
| I didn't know y'all was getting this type of money back. | ||
| Y'all been doing this for how long? | ||
| This is how it happens. | ||
| There's a room that you get in and the information and understanding that comes in it. | ||
| It's unreal, the stuff that you start to discover. | ||
| But it's a discovery. | ||
| It's a discovery. | ||
| You gotta stumble upon this treasure of information and discovery. | ||
| And if you don't, Maybe you're in the right environment and you hear some stuff and you can ask some questions, but nine times out of ten, it's not offered. | ||
| It's a search and find. | ||
| And when I was constantly in those situations and I found myself saying, so how, but why? | ||
| Well, then what did you do? | ||
| Damn, after that, then what? | ||
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What the fuck did you, how did that even work? | |
| I was in a room with Jeff Bezos. | ||
| And Robert Kraft, this was the Patriots that won the Super Bowl. | ||
| And we're in this little private room after. | ||
| And Tom Brady is giving a speech thanking Robert for all. | ||
| Robert thanks Tom. | ||
| And I'm with my wife and a friend. | ||
| And Jeff Bezos walks in. | ||
| My friend goes, look with Jeff Bezos. | ||
| I said, oh shit, I'm going to go say what's up. | ||
| I said, that's a motherfucker. | ||
| I would love to pick his brain. | ||
| That's an interesting individual. | ||
| No, don't do that. | ||
| What do you mean don't do that? | ||
| Who said don't do that? | ||
| My friend. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Why are you going to do that, Kev? | ||
| There's a room full of people that don't look like a dude that's thirsty. | ||
| Thirsty for what? | ||
| For fucking information, dickface? | ||
| Who got into like a little fucking spat? | ||
| For what? | ||
| For fucking information? | ||
| I want to fucking say, hey, I want to see my face. | ||
| I want to ask him some questions. | ||
| I ain't going to see this man no more. | ||
| I don't know him. | ||
| We're not on a phone number to phone number basis. | ||
| I'm going to say what's up to him. | ||
| I'm just saying in this environment, just chill. | ||
| It's relaxed. | ||
| And that shit started to click to me. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Everybody's too cool. | ||
| Everybody's too fucking cool. | ||
| Everybody wants you to think that they know. | ||
| You don't know! | ||
| You don't know shit. | ||
| We don't know shit. | ||
| There's one Jeff Bezos. | ||
| There's fucking one almost trillionaire. | ||
| Hey, Jeff! | ||
| Come here, man. | ||
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Hey, man! | |
| First of all, explain a trillion to me. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| How many zeros? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| First of all, do you know how excited he must be to talk to you, too? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I'm going to fucking find out. | ||
| I'm going to fucking find out. | ||
| You know what I did, Joe? | ||
| What? | ||
| Hey, man, I'll be right back, babe. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Took my wife with me. | ||
| Hey, Jeff, I'm Kevin Hart. | ||
| How you doing, man? | ||
| Hey, Kevin. | ||
| How are you? | ||
| Jeff, this is my wife, Iniko. | ||
| Hey, hey, man. | ||
| I admire you. | ||
| I don't fucking know anything about that world and death, but I admire you. | ||
| I admire you for being a guy that fucking created and accomplished some shit that is a phenomenon. | ||
| I want to shake your hand. | ||
| I would love to talk one day. | ||
| Kev, hey man, good meeting you. | ||
| Quite sure we'll bump past one day. | ||
| Hey, if we do or don't, you gonna remember this. | ||
| I just want to tell you I admire you. | ||
| I don't need shit. | ||
| I'm not asking for anything. | ||
| But what I did, I set myself up for another conversation for when I got the opportunity. | ||
| You're talking here, but I'm going to come over, man. | ||
| I admire you. | ||
| I want to fucking ask you a bunch of questions about this Amazon shit and ask you how you came up with it. | ||
| I don't think this is the time or place, but I want you to see my face. | ||
| Have you ever seen a photo of him sitting at his desk and there's a banner behind him, a plastic nylon hanging banner that says Amazon.com? | ||
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Jesus. | |
| It's in like the 1990s when people are like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Selling books on the internet? | ||
| And this is a shitty looking Ikea desk. | ||
| Look at this desk. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| This is him here. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Amazon.com. | ||
| And marker. | ||
| Yeah, it looks like spray paint. | ||
| Spray paint. | ||
| Look at this shit here. | ||
| Look at that shitty bullshit desk. | ||
| That dorky looking dude. | ||
| Look at the cords. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now he's all buff and jacked and shit. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Now he's a savage that's basically conquering the business world. | ||
| Richest man, well, richest man publicly publicly. | ||
| I think there's a bunch of them oil billionaire, trillionaire dudes. | ||
| Yeah, that's got some shit too. | ||
| They just shut up. | ||
| They don't want to say anything. | ||
| Either way, I was in a room with that man. | ||
| There wasn't a level of cool that I had that would keep me from just going and saying hello or asking a question for that matter. | ||
| And it's being in those spaces that intrigued the thought. | ||
| I was like, dude, this is what I'm going to do. | ||
| I'm going to do my part. | ||
| I'm going to do my part and say it. | ||
| I'm going to say, hey, when it comes to producing and production, here's what I've done. | ||
| Here's the walls that I've hit, and here's where it's really hurt me. | ||
| But here's what I've learned. | ||
| And here's why I do it this way. | ||
| My ambition is fueled from possibility. | ||
| I'm giving you all this shit. | ||
| I'm giving you all this shit. | ||
| What am I going to do? | ||
| I'm going to die and take it with me? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to keep it in the coffin with me? | ||
| What am I going to do? | ||
| What am I going to do with it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'ma fucking give it! | ||
| Well, also, the possibility that some young kid could listen to this audio thing, listen to you talk about these things, and then one day succeed and run into you the same way you ran into Jeff Bezos. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Kevin Hart, I gotta tell you. | ||
| I got where I am because I listened. | ||
| I listened to you talk about your life. | ||
| I listened to you talk about your fuck-ups and you made me feel like you were human. | ||
| Like I thought you were just Kevin Hart. | ||
| Like when people see you, you're Kevin Hart. | ||
| You're walking the red carpet. | ||
| You're in Jumanji. | ||
| You're all over the place. | ||
| Fucking comedy specials for 50,000 people in arenas and shit. | ||
| People don't know that you're a human. | ||
| You don't seem like a human because you're not like a human that they know. | ||
| But when you talk and you talk about your life, And some kid might just get a spark off of that and blow that spark, make that ember flame up and take over. | ||
| And next thing you know, you're running into that person at some other Super Bowl party. | ||
| I can't even tell you. | ||
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For me, that's what it's about. | |
| That's what it's about. | ||
| You're offering fuel. | ||
| That's as strong as anything else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the impact. | ||
| It's gonna impact some people. | ||
| There's gonna be people that don't have room for it, right? | ||
| They're all closed up. | ||
| It's like a cup. | ||
| There's no room in their cup. | ||
| They're full of their own shit. | ||
| It's not gonna get in there. | ||
| There's other people, they're gonna have a spot for you. | ||
| They're gonna have a spot and you're gonna make that engine better. | ||
| You're gonna make the whole engine of their life better. | ||
| There's things that I think about all the time when I'm working out or when I'm tired. | ||
| I think about inspirational things that people have said. | ||
| And they get me through. | ||
| They shift. | ||
| It shifts my mind, steals me up, makes me think about things in a different way, and I can accomplish more because of those thoughts. | ||
| I can accomplish more because of that energy that some person... | ||
| And you did that to me, man. | ||
| You did that to me the last time we had a conversation. | ||
| I remember leaving our conversation going, that motherfucker is motivational! | ||
| And I got a lot of text messages from a lot of friends and a lot of people go, that was a great one. | ||
| But there was a shift. | ||
| Like when someone is really getting after it in their life and you're around them, there's a shift in your own life. | ||
| It's a tangible thing. | ||
| It's like if you could see it on a meter, it's almost like your meter goes up. | ||
| You feel it, but you don't quantify. | ||
| It's not something you put on a scale. | ||
| It's not something you'd see on a meter, but it's real. | ||
| And you gotta believe it's real and know it's real. | ||
| And when you're doing this, when you're putting out this audiobook, and even these conversations that you put out, when people know what you've accomplished and you put these conversations out, it resonates, man. | ||
| It's so valuable. | ||
| Did you watch the Jordan doc? | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| You gotta watch the Jordan doc. | ||
| I know everybody's been telling me that. | ||
| I know I have to. | ||
| Have to watch the Jordan documentary. | ||
| Okay, I'll watch it. | ||
| Listen, because he's an alien. | ||
| He's one of us. | ||
| He's one of those aliens that other aliens identify with. | ||
| And for people listening, when I say aliens, you know it's a metaphor for people. | ||
| That doesn't mean it. | ||
| Fucking embracing aliens here. | ||
| I get so much shit for everything. | ||
| It's a metaphor. | ||
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But he's different. | |
| He's fucking different. | ||
| And what this shows you is how different MJ was. | ||
| That man was a fucking winner. | ||
| He was a winner. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Like, that's it. | ||
| MJ won. | ||
| There is no other conversation. | ||
| When you watch this doc and you watch how he approached his days and why he approached it and the things that he did and his reason for doing them and ultimately what he wanted and what his priority and what his goals were, you go, fuck. | ||
| He did it. | ||
| We know why he did it. | ||
| It's not a coincidence that he's a champion. | ||
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It's... | |
| Destiny. | ||
| There was no other option. | ||
| It was champion or bus. | ||
| There was no six-time MVP, all-star, and defensive player of the year, and most likable player in the league, and most markable. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| If it's not a champion attached to my name, With several fucking trophies attached, there is no other conversation. | ||
| And you motherfuckers around me, if you do not understand why I am the way I am, then this is not the place for you. | ||
| Do your job. | ||
| I've never heard Michael Jordan talk the way the documentary showed him talk. | ||
| Do your fucking job. | ||
| When I pass you the ball, hit the fucking shot. | ||
| That person now has to get better. | ||
| Because I'm so nervous that if Mike passed me the ball and I missed this fucking shot, I'm never going to get a shot again. | ||
| Do your fucking job. | ||
| When Mike is talking to you like that, I thought we were just playing basketball. | ||
| I thought I was out here having a good time. | ||
| Oh wait, this is my job. | ||
| This is my profession. | ||
| I'm supposed to do this, this, and this. | ||
| If I don't do this... | ||
| I'm failing at my job. | ||
| You see these players today and you see the way that they are. | ||
| I promise you, man, rest in peace Kobe Bryant. | ||
| Every bit of the same. | ||
| They give my guy LJ Flack and shit. | ||
| I promise you LeBron James is nothing short of that. | ||
| I promise you these people that are winning, fucking win because there is no other option. | ||
| You have to watch this doc and Joe, you gotta text me after. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Text me after and just go, holy fucking shit. | ||
| Holy shit, man. | ||
| I get it, Kev. | ||
| And the fuel that you're talking about in that meter? | ||
| I promise you your meter. | ||
| After the dot, I got up. | ||
| I was with my laptop hand. | ||
| Shit, I'm over here watching the dot. | ||
| Let me think of what the next thing is. | ||
| It instantly, instantly fueled. | ||
| Fueled. | ||
| Instant fuel! | ||
| Last time I felt that was the Tyson documentary. | ||
| That was strong. | ||
| That was strong. | ||
| Dude, this is the time when he's talking about walking into the ring, as he steps in the ring, like all the nervousness, all the things that are going through, and that as his confidence builds, as he gets towards the ring and he steps through the ropes, I'm a god. | ||
| When he says that, I'm like, holy shit! | ||
| My goosebumps are popping up! | ||
| I was like, oh my god! | ||
| That's the Dos Equis man to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the Dos Equis man to me. | ||
| It's crazy he's fighting again? | ||
| That is the Dos Equis man to me. | ||
| The most interesting man in America. | ||
| Mike Tyson is that. | ||
| There are so many different levels and pieces of death to Mike Tyson and his story. | ||
| It's one of the strongest docs I've ever seen. | ||
| Well, he's one of those guys, one of those super winners that just, I mean, when he was young, I mean, everyone knows the story, but if you don't, he basically had no love in his life until he met Customato. | ||
| And Customato became a father figure, but also... | ||
| Customato is a hypnotist and a psychologist in a lot of ways and a fantastic boxing coach as well and took this young kid and showed him that you're gonna get love from accomplishment and you're gonna conquer and you're gonna become the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time and through his tutelage up until the moment that he died Mike Tyson was just a just a phenom a thing that we had never seen before he was the pit bull with no leash That | ||
| respected one person. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And anybody else at any given time feared to fuck out of this pit bull. | ||
| Because nobody else knew, hey man, who's, what is, hey! | ||
| Somebody gotta get this, hey who, what? | ||
| What is this wit? | ||
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Who, who? | |
| Until this day, if I see Mike, there's a little nervousness for no reason. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| He's terrifying. | ||
| It's not like he's coming in with this thing, like, I'm killing everybody. | ||
| No, he's gentle. | ||
| He's the most loving man in the world. | ||
| You talk to him, he's soft-spoken, but there's still a little thing, like, is Mike going to hit me? | ||
| My friend Kevin Lee said it best. | ||
| Kevin Lee fights for the UFC. He said, when he's sitting next to him, he goes, that's a lion! | ||
| He goes, I'm sitting next to him, like, is that Mike Tyson? | ||
| He goes, that's a lion! | ||
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It's like you're sitting next to him like, okay. | |
| I hope everything's cool. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| This fight, man, I just wish him the best. | ||
| I know he's back to training and stuff. | ||
| You just want him to be safe and healthy in his time. | ||
| But that's a man I don't ever count out. | ||
| But god damn, seeing him just put up those little displays of... | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| It's what? | ||
| It's heat-seeking missiles coming from his shoulders. | ||
| Well, not only that, he wasn't doing anything like a year ago. | ||
| When I had him in here for the podcast, he said he didn't want to stoke his ego. | ||
| He didn't want to work out. | ||
| He goes, because if I work out, my ego fires up. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this shit here. | ||
| That's interesting, but that's just shadow boxing. | ||
| What's crazy is he's training with Rafael Cordero, who's one of the best MMA trainers, one of the best striking trainers in the world. | ||
| He came from a legendary camp out of Brazil, Curitiba, Brazil, called Shoot the Box. | ||
| It's like the legendary team of marauders. | ||
| From Brazil, the golden glory days of Pride, Pride was a competitor to the UFC, was defined in a lot of ways. | ||
| The glory days were defined by this one team from Brazil that Rafael Cordero was a part of. | ||
| And then that guy, training Mike Tyson now, and he's been super successful training mixed martial arts fighters too. | ||
| But I found it very interesting that Mike chose to train with that guy and to see the way they're going at it. | ||
| I mean, he's not boxing. | ||
| He's trying to destroy motherfuckers. | ||
| I respect the trainer. | ||
| I respect the trainer for standing in the way of that shit. | ||
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One accidental oops. | |
| Missiles. | ||
| Just missiles are coming right near his head. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| You gotta just bow down. | ||
| And you know what, man? | ||
| We're still in the presence of greatness. | ||
| And as people, I don't think we should ever forget that. | ||
| Well, what's crazy is he's 53 years old. | ||
| He's doing this and he's only been doing this again for like less than a year. | ||
| So it's only been like four or five months that he's really been training hard and everything's just coming back. | ||
| I mean, I wonder. | ||
| I wonder what it is. | ||
| I wonder if he just was bored. | ||
| I mean, I really wonder. | ||
| This is the crazy shit. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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If you saw that guy... | |
| If you saw that guy training and he was a 22-year-old kid, you're like, man, this motherfucker's gonna be something. | ||
| Because he's just got an intensity that you rarely see from any fighter. | ||
| There's a fury that burns inside of him. | ||
| You can't manufacture that. | ||
| You either have that or you don't. | ||
| And he found a way to reignite it. | ||
| Reignite it. | ||
| I swear you beat me to it. | ||
| You beat me to it. | ||
| But isn't that what we... | ||
| We hope for or, you know, we hope that we get. | ||
| You know, I think at that age 50, that's a very pivotal point in your life because, you know, from when you're born to 50, that's okay. | ||
| All my years... | ||
| Fun are out the way, my craziness, my growth, my maturity, and now I'm supposed to start to be a little complacent. | ||
| I'm now at that... | ||
| At that hill where I'm looking on the other side of life. | ||
| Now it's time to go on that other side. | ||
| And when you're on the other side, even if you're still on a high about living and about career and everything, you're on the other side. | ||
| It's a different thing when you're on the other side. | ||
| I made it here. | ||
| Now, how many more years? | ||
| It's a blessing to get more time after this because I made it to the top. | ||
| And now, you know, on this other side, is it relaxing? | ||
| Is it not? | ||
| Am I comfortable? | ||
| Am I a little depressed that I'm getting old? | ||
| Am I not? | ||
| Whatever those emotions and feelings are, they're real. | ||
| And a lot of people experience it, have them. | ||
| So to find something else to make you go, I'm ready again. | ||
| Will Smith did it. | ||
| Will Smith kicked in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Will Smith, something clicked. | ||
| Something clicked on Will Smith. | ||
| For years, Will Smith wasn't around and Will will talk to you. | ||
| Will will talk to you, Will will tell you. | ||
| But something clicked and he said at this age, at 50, I'm going to go get it again. | ||
| I'm going to go after it again. | ||
| Because I can. | ||
| Like, it's something in there that Will Smith realizes that he has. | ||
| And at any given moment, I can. | ||
| And that's what Will Smith showed us. | ||
| Will Smith wasn't on social media. | ||
| Will Smith wasn't in this, you know, in the Generation X. You know, he wasn't in our face. | ||
| He wasn't up in the fucking vlogs and shit and YouTube on a day-to-day. | ||
| He didn't have more movies coming out. | ||
| It was very far, few, and in between. | ||
| And then he said, I'll do it when the fuck I want. | ||
| And he turned it on. | ||
| 30-something million followers. | ||
| 40-something million followers. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Vlogs on YouTube. | ||
| I'm on Snapchat. | ||
| I'm on it all. | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| TikTok. | ||
| I'm going to show you how to do it. | ||
| I got my own team. | ||
| We showed you guys a new way to do this shit. | ||
| I'm producing it. | ||
| Different than it was. | ||
| I'm back to doing movies. | ||
| Here's my new movies. | ||
| We're using a new technology. | ||
| Jim and I, man. | ||
| Young me. | ||
| Old me. | ||
| He's fucking doing what he wants. | ||
| Because he said he can. | ||
| Everybody doesn't have that. | ||
| Everybody can't do that. | ||
| You got a lot of people that try, but they don't do that. | ||
| You don't go from being number one and saying, I'm not going to do it, and I had some failures or whatever in here, and it fall off. | ||
| Fuck it, I'm ready to be number one again. | ||
| That's some of our favorite stories, though, of someone who comes back. | ||
| Dave Chappelle's a perfect example of that. | ||
| I can do what the fuck I want. | ||
| Not only that, Dave did it in a legendary way. | ||
| They offer him all this money to do this Comedy Central show in a different way. | ||
| They want him to change it and tone it down. | ||
| They want to make it more suitable for advertisers. | ||
| Too many voices. | ||
| And he's like, you know what? | ||
| I'm just gonna go to Africa. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| He just went to Africa. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Just took off and then came back and said, I quit. | ||
| And then stop doing stand-up. | ||
| He was doing, I don't know if you know, he was doing stand-up in a park in Seattle. | ||
| He'd show up with a fucking box, plug a microphone into it, and just start doing stand-up. | ||
| And people would gather around like, what the fuck is happening here? | ||
| No, he didn't want any money. | ||
| He would just show up at shows. | ||
| If he wanted to do a show, he would show up at a comedy club. | ||
| No money. | ||
| Just show up. | ||
| Do a show after the show is over. | ||
| Are you ready to laugh? | ||
| It's a great Dave Chappelle story. | ||
| I'm in Seattle. | ||
| I think I was in Seattle. | ||
| Sold out. | ||
| Got like some arena fucking thing I'm doing in Seattle. | ||
| And we got two shows same night. | ||
| We do about 30,000 people. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Fucking great day in Seattle. | ||
| I get word that Dave Chappelle is in Seattle. | ||
| And Dave Chappelle randomly put up a theater show. | ||
| And he's performing. | ||
| Tonight? | ||
| Yeah, he's performing tonight. | ||
| Call Dave. | ||
| Dave, are you fucking in Seattle? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wouldn't you book a show here? | ||
| I would have fucking came. | ||
| Dude, I'm here. | ||
| I'm at the theater. | ||
| Oh, I didn't even know, man. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Dave, I'm at the fucking arena. | ||
| I'm going to see if I can get down there to you. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
| I just put them up. | ||
| What time do you think you're going to get here? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| After my show, I'll push the time back, man. | ||
| Dave, what? | ||
| Push the time back? | ||
| What did you put on set? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I just tell him I'll do it and I'll show up, man. | ||
| I just call him, tell him we're gonna push it back, man. | ||
| I get to the fucking theater. | ||
| I rush after our show. | ||
| Dave has a trailer And there's like a little motor thing on the back of the trailer. | ||
| It's like a little bus. | ||
| Fucking motor trend-like bus. | ||
| And then there's like little things that you pull shit in attached to it. | ||
| I said, what are you doing here? | ||
| He's like, I don't know, man. | ||
| We've been doing cross-country. | ||
| We're taking our bikes, man. | ||
| We're riding cross-country. | ||
| So I just, when I need money, I just book a show. | ||
| I said, what? | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| He's so different. | ||
| He's so different and he's so him. | ||
| But the freedom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dave has a level of freedom. | ||
| Me and Chris Rock talk about it, man. | ||
| No one's like him. | ||
| His level of freedom. | ||
| I put myself in this place. | ||
| I got the corporate relationships and the CEO hat and the companies. | ||
| So I can't. | ||
| Do certain things because the consequences aren't just for me. | ||
| It's for the people that are underneath this umbrella. | ||
| If something were to happen, I have to be responsible. | ||
| I have to understand that it's not just about me. | ||
| And I'm envious and jealous. | ||
| Of Dave's ability to go and be free as a comic in the times where we desperately need to be. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We desperately need to be. | ||
| And Dave can be. | ||
| And I bow down to him. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about these numbers, anything I got. | ||
| Dave, in my opinion, you're the GOAT. In my opinion, your last special... | ||
| Has allowed you to surpass the Richard Pryor, in my opinion. | ||
| Dave Chappelle, I got to witness, do groundbreaking, controversial movement as a comedian in the times where comedy was being frowned upon. | ||
| Comedians were being held accountable For doing what we thought we would never be ridiculed for. | ||
| The one person that stood on a pedestal that got the attention that no others can get outside of a myself, a rock, a Seinfeld, he said, in the time where the fucking fire is the hottest, I'm going to do what nobody else will. | ||
| You gotta fucking applaud that. | ||
| He stood up for comedy. | ||
| He stood up for comedy. | ||
| Whether you want to see that or not, he did that. | ||
| Yes, he did it when there was the most pressure. | ||
| When it was the most fucking pressure, and when the times of, we can cancel you, by the way, which is the stupidest shit that I've ever fucking witnessed in my 40 years of life. | ||
| The whole idea of, I can kill you today with the goddamn click of a button. | ||
| I can end your life! | ||
| By the way, this is a real feeling that people have. | ||
| I'm in control of your life. | ||
| If I want your life to stop and be over, I'll cancel you. | ||
| And that means you can't live no more. | ||
| This is how ridiculous it is. | ||
| Think about the meaning of cancel culture. | ||
| So you're saying that my life is over, I can no longer survive or provide for myself. | ||
| Cancel! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Figure it out. | |
| You're canceled. | ||
| Dave Chappelle said, fuck all that. | ||
| Do what you gonna do, I'm gonna do me. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Epic. | ||
| That is groundbreaking. | ||
| That is goat-like behavior. | ||
| So I bow down to Mr. Chappelle. | ||
| He's very important. | ||
| He's one of the most important figures in the history of comedy. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Because of the fact that he's willing to do this when the scrutiny is the highest. | ||
| And also just his story. | ||
| The way he did it. | ||
| The way he walked away for ten years and then came back and immediately went right to the top. | ||
| That is my brother from another mother. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| Chris Rock and me. | ||
| I'll give you one more. | ||
| Me and Chris Rock were at the Comedy Cellar. | ||
| I called Chris. | ||
| Hey, Chris, come down to the cellar, man. | ||
| I'm going to work on some jokes tonight. | ||
| I'll see what you think. | ||
| All right, Kev. | ||
| I'll come down. | ||
| Chris comes down. | ||
| He said, yeah, I'm going to get up, too. | ||
| I got some shit I'm working on, too. | ||
| So tell me what you think. | ||
| But I go on stage. | ||
| Chris Rock sits in the back of the cellar. | ||
| Get off stage. | ||
| Chris like, funny shit, Kev. | ||
| I was like, yeah, you like it, right? | ||
| Got some stuff, got some notes. | ||
| He said, yo, I'm about to go out. | ||
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All right, done. | |
| I'm sitting here. | ||
| I'm watching. | ||
| Chris goes up. | ||
| Chris got some funny shit. | ||
| Fuck Chris. | ||
| Funny. | ||
| I like it, man. | ||
| Chris have a nice conversation. | ||
| Go upstairs. | ||
| We're about to eat. | ||
| Dave comes in. | ||
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What up, Dave? | |
| What you doing? | ||
| I was going to go up. | ||
| Oh, fuck, man. | ||
| Chris went up. | ||
| We're going to come down and watch you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Dave goes on stage. | ||
| Dave does about an hour. | ||
| There's a moment where Dave is probably at about 40, 45 minutes in. | ||
| Me and Chris both look at each other and at the same time, without saying the word, balled up the material that we just worked on. | ||
| We fucking, without saying it, without saying it, I ripped the page that I had in my little book and Chris just balled up his little fucking thing and we were like, he's unbelievable. | ||
| We came in, crafted, we got some shit that we wanted to fucking work on. | ||
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Dave just went up there and talked It's like he's living like a legend. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| If you wanted to have a legend of a comedian, you would talk about a guy who created the greatest sketch show of all time. | ||
| I mean, it only went for two seasons. | ||
| But when you talk about sketches like Clayton Bigsby, when you talk about the Rick James shit, these are so classic. | ||
| They're unstoppable. | ||
| And then he goes away. | ||
| He goes away like a fucking mountain man. | ||
| He vanishes. | ||
| He's in a farm in Ohio. | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| He's on a farm. | ||
| He's on a fucking farm! | ||
| He's on a farm in Ohio. | ||
| What? | ||
| Is he doing comedy? | ||
| Sometimes he randomly just shows up. | ||
| He's at his barn. | ||
| He does this for 10 years. | ||
| I was in Denver, right? | ||
| And this is before his comeback. | ||
| I was in Denver, and I'm doing stand-up, and I get off stage, and I open the green room, and Dave's there. | ||
| I go, Dave, what are you doing? | ||
| And he goes, oh, hey, Joe. | ||
| I just decided to fly into Denver. | ||
| I go, you don't have a show scheduled? | ||
| No, man, I heard you were here. | ||
| I started flying. | ||
| I go, do you want to go up? | ||
| He goes, oh, should I? I go, fuck yeah. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| I run back. | ||
| People are leaving. | ||
| People are getting up. | ||
| I go, come back. | ||
| Come back. | ||
| Tell everybody to come back. | ||
| I go, Dave Chappelle's here. | ||
| They're like, what? | ||
| They all come back, sit down, and he does 40 minutes and destroys. | ||
| I love the best part of that story is, you want to go up? | ||
| Should I? Dave! | ||
| Dave, you just took a flight to Denver! | ||
| Yeah, Dave, why not? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| So then he takes me out. | ||
| We go out on the town to all these fucking spots that I didn't even know existed in Denver. | ||
| He knows where all these after hours places are. | ||
| You go behind an alley, you knock on a door, they open it up. | ||
| Everything's velvet lined. | ||
| There's a small private bar. | ||
| He is one of one. | ||
| He's one of one. | ||
| One of one. | ||
| This is what the fuck it should be. | ||
| This is us embracing. | ||
| This is us embracing. | ||
| We're embracing someone. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Embracing. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that world. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| There's nothing wrong. | ||
| There's nothing wrong. | ||
| With embracing someone as doing fucking what you can deem as great shit? | ||
| You're supposed to. | ||
| You're supposed to. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| It's part of the thing. | ||
| You have to sing praise, shower praise on people that are doing it the right way. | ||
| No one's ever done it better than Dave. | ||
| He's doing it the right way. | ||
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And even, like I said, even the legendary story, he's like a character in a book. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| A mountain man. | ||
| He's like a mountain man. | ||
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He goes off to a farm outside of Dayton, Ohio. | |
| Who the fuck does that? | ||
| By the way, it tells me. | ||
| Kev, you gotta come down to the farm. | ||
| Dave, I don't... | ||
| No one has that kind of time. | ||
| Dave, I don't wanna... | ||
| What do you want me to do down there, Dave? | ||
| What do you want me to do? | ||
| You gotta come down, man. | ||
| It's a good time. | ||
| We're gonna have a good time, man. | ||
| It's the barn, fires, music. | ||
| Dave... | ||
| It's a farm. | ||
| You gotta promise me. | ||
| Alright, I'm coming, Dave. | ||
| Literally, I can only hope to be remotely close to as creative as he is at that point in my career and find this Jell-O. He's in an amazing Jell-O right now. | ||
| He knows who he is. | ||
| He's not compromising. | ||
| No one can tell him any different. | ||
| He is who he is. | ||
| I mean, he's unapologetically himself, and he gets it. | ||
| Part of his brilliance is not just being a brilliant observer and a brilliant orator and a describer of life, but also in being who he is perfectly. | ||
| He doesn't have any conflict in being who he is. | ||
| He knows who he is. | ||
| He knows how to do it right. | ||
| And he's okay with not having. | ||
| And when he walks on stage, man, he strolls on that stage like he belongs there. | ||
| He's okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| You know Eddie Murphy? | ||
| I've met Eddie Murphy. | ||
| I don't know him very well, but I knew his brother Charlie very well. | ||
| Listen, Eddie, we had a dinner one night, and it was Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, me, Chris Rock, Chris Tucker. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| And Dwayne Wade, Gabrielle Union, and Usher had came. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Right? | ||
| So we're at this dinner, and me and Chris was like, yo, we should get, let's just put a dinner together where we all just come out. | ||
| Because me and Chris love to fucking just hear Eddie go. | ||
| Like, Eddie is pound for pound. | ||
| The funniest person you can ever be around. | ||
| Like, effortlessly. | ||
| Not trying. | ||
| Just in story. | ||
| This dinner goes down in history is the funniest night of my life in conversation. | ||
| And you got to see comics be in awe of one another. | ||
| You got to see us appreciate each other. | ||
| Like everybody talked and this wasn't a one-up story. | ||
| This was a conversation. | ||
| But you saw why the goats were the goats. | ||
| You saw why the goats were the goats. | ||
| You clearly saw that I was young in class. | ||
| And I'm the guy that's coming up in the rear and I'm like, I'm happy to be there. | ||
| Fucking must be ecstatic to be there. | ||
| Man, I'm fucking smiling. | ||
| Ear to ear, man. | ||
| Look at that picture. | ||
| There's a picture of it. | ||
| That's it right there. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| I'm smiling ear to ear. | ||
| Damn, Jamie. | ||
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Skills. | |
| I'm smiling air to fucking air and I remember there was a moment where we were talking and Eddie would say something and then Chris was like come on man you know damn well Eddie ain't nobody doing that and then you would fucking hear Dave shut up damn it Chris with you and rock and then I'm just there quiet I'm just fucking quiet and then I would have moments where I would tune in but literally you saw why The goats were the goats. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I'm telling you, one of the most epic dentists. | ||
| I have this picture framed in my house. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| That's an amazing picture. | ||
| Framed in my fucking house. | ||
| God, I hope Eddie comes back. | ||
| I know he's been talking about it. | ||
| He's been talking about it. | ||
| Did you see that one thing that he did? | ||
| There was some sort of an award show where he came up and talked on the podium and he was doing material and he was talking about them taking away Bill Cosby's degrees. | ||
| No! | ||
| You never seen it? | ||
| No! | ||
| Oh, Jamie, find it. | ||
| Find it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Recent? | ||
| It's recent? | ||
| It's like within the last couple of years. | ||
| Bro, his timing is on point. | ||
| It's like he would just get up there right now and murder. | ||
| Well, you saw it also in his SNL sketch. | ||
| He did the one SNL sketch where he did the... | ||
| It was like the holiday family, and it was like the black family, and his daughter brought the white guy home. | ||
| And it was the black family's reaction to it, because he was staying there over the weekend, so Eddie was the dad. | ||
| But you saw his timing. | ||
| His timing was amazing. | ||
| It's still there, man. | ||
| He's still fucking Eddie Murphy. | ||
| We'll play this and we'll wrap this up. | ||
| We'll just end it on this. | ||
| Your shit is available on Audible. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Now? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Right now? | ||
| Right now. | ||
| Go get it. | ||
| You're a brilliant person. | ||
| I really appreciate you. | ||
| I really appreciate you being here. | ||
| I fuck with you, Joe. | ||
| I'm serious, man. | ||
| I want to say this. | ||
| I couldn't be happier for you. | ||
| And for all of your listeners, all of your supporters, I want to thank y'all for staying with this man and riding with this man through the years. | ||
| Because, you know, to build something and have that something mean something, that's valuable. | ||
| Dude, you serve a very strong purpose in today's time. | ||
| I'm a fan, and I'm happy to call myself a friend. | ||
| I fuck with you, Joe. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| I mean that, man. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
| Eddie Murphy, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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Bill has one of these. | |
| Did y'all make Bill give his back? | ||
| No, because I know there was a big outcry from people. | ||
| They was trying to get Bill to give his trophies back. | ||
| You know you up when they want you to give your trophies back Trophy back to He should do one show where he just come out and just talk crazy now. | ||
| I would like to talk to some of the people who feel that I should give back my stories! | ||
| Oh, it's only a piece of it, huh? | ||
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The whole thing's on there, but it's Mark Twain's speech. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Well, if we play more, they'll probably pull it down anyway. | ||
| That's good enough. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| It was brilliant. | ||
| Strong. | ||
| Thank you so much, man. | ||
| Thank you, brother. |
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