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March 12, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1440 - Fortune Feimster
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fortune feimster
01:03:03
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joe rogan
01:40:22
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Three, two, one...
Fortune!
unidentified
What's up?
joe rogan
Good to see you.
You too.
fortune feimster
This is exciting.
joe rogan
It's exciting for me too.
fortune feimster
Our first date.
joe rogan
Do you have a special coming out or something?
fortune feimster
It just came out like a month ago.
joe rogan
Oh, it's out already?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
unidentified
I didn't even know.
fortune feimster
Well, there's a lot of specials coming out right now.
joe rogan
God damn, is this the craziest time ever for specials?
fortune feimster
Yeah, it's like one after another after another.
joe rogan
It really is.
I can't remember ever in the history of comedy that there's been this many specials released.
fortune feimster
No, and just killers every week.
joe rogan
Yeah, speaking special.
Pull up the video of Tom Segura's new special.
Netflix is a joke on Instagram, has a copy of it.
fortune feimster
Oh, because he's doing English and Spanish, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, this one's just English, and he's going to do one in Spanish.
People don't know that Tom Segura is fluent in Espanol.
fortune feimster
He had his mom on his podcast, and that was cool.
joe rogan
In Spanish!
Yeah, it's amazing.
Yeah, it's funny because he looks so white.
He looks like a white bro.
fortune feimster
I know.
joe rogan
Sometimes Mexicans will talk shit around him and he'll just look at them and then say something in Spanish and they're like, oh no.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's the best.
To have that secret weapon.
unidentified
Especially in LA. There's a video of it.
fortune feimster
Does he have lipstick on?
joe rogan
That's what I was gonna say!
Thank you!
Play the video.
unidentified
I love you, Tom.
fortune feimster
I love you, Tom.
joe rogan
Play the video.
They fucked him.
He let some lady put makeup.
I never let them put makeup on me.
Never.
And they always bring someone.
And this is why.
This is why.
They made him out.
And by the way, they color corrected it because it was way worse than that before.
fortune feimster
Oh, really?
joe rogan
He told me it was way worse than that.
I go, what the fuck, bro?
He's like, I know.
I go, dude, you can't let them do that to you.
fortune feimster
It looks like he kissed Christina and then went out to do the show.
joe rogan
He looks like a clown.
He looks like a clown from the 1930s.
Like one of them black and white movies.
Like, look at that.
That's crazy.
They put lipstick on him.
They put lipstick on him and they put white makeup all over his face.
fortune feimster
I had that happen once because you really can't tell when they're putting it on.
Someone made me look like the marionette doll with the big red rosy cheeks and I was hosting an award show and the whole speech is online.
joe rogan
It's so crazy because you let someone dictate what your image is going to be.
Someone that really has no business doing that.
They just do makeup and when someone does makeup they want to do makeup.
They want to do you.
fortune feimster
Like that.
joe rogan
Preposterous.
fortune feimster
He just needs to put some chapstick on.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
fortune feimster
That's it.
joe rogan
Look, that's what he looks like.
This is what I always say.
I'm the only one in the UFC broadcast that doesn't put makeup on, too.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm like, we're talking to people that are getting their heads punched in.
Okay, literally, Ioana Jacek, who's the former strawweight champion, She had a fight with this woman, Zhang Weili, who is the strawweight champion from China.
It's crazy, epic, like one of the best fights in history.
At the end of it, Ioana's head was like a Frankenstein forehead.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Yeah, look at her forehead.
Now imagine me with makeup on standing next to her.
That would be ridiculous, right?
I refuse!
fortune feimster
You're like, look at my foundation.
joe rogan
They're like, well, we're just gonna cut down the shine.
Who gives a fuck if I'm shiny?
Literally no one cares.
fortune feimster
Yeah, she's got a double forehead now.
joe rogan
It's a double, triple forehead.
unidentified
Everything's swollen.
fortune feimster
Is it back down?
joe rogan
I don't know.
She hasn't taken, and that's what she looks like normally.
Beautiful lady.
She's so tough.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That lady is as tough as human beings can possibly be.
fortune feimster
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
Because she like never even flinched.
Her fucking forehead's twice the size of normal.
She didn't even flinch.
She kept throwing bombs.
It was amazing.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Epic.
fortune feimster
How long did it go?
joe rogan
Five rounds.
fortune feimster
Five rounds.
joe rogan
25 whole minutes of chaos.
And it was even the whole fight.
The whole fight was like back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.
It was amazing.
fortune feimster
Are you guys super bummed out when people throw one punch and the person falls down and that's it?
unidentified
No.
fortune feimster
That's exciting too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's exciting.
The sport is crazy.
It can happen that way.
There was a recent fight where Donald Cerrone fought Conor McGregor.
In the clinch, Conor McGregor slammed his shoulder into Donald's nose and broke his nose.
So they came out of the clinch, like seconds into the fight, his nose is bleeding.
And then he got head kicked and he got pummeled and they stopped the fight in 40 seconds.
fortune feimster
Oh my gosh!
joe rogan
Yeah, and everybody was bummed out because it was this huge pay-per-view event, this big deal, but that's part of what's crazy about this sport is that it's the fighting in either boxing, kickboxing, or MMA is the only sport where you can end it early.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Like football goes the distance.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
You're in for three and a half, four hours.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Baseball goes all the innings.
It's like that's just how it goes.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But fighting can end in 10 seconds.
We've had fights that have ended, I think, Well, who's got the record now?
It was Dwayne Ludwig, but...
jamie vernon
Masvidal took it, I think, right?
joe rogan
That's right.
Masvidal took it.
jamie vernon
It was like eight seconds, but it was like four or five.
joe rogan
It's not really.
I don't even think they gave it eight.
I think they said it's five, but I think it's three.
fortune feimster
What do you do at the live event?
Everyone's just like, all right, time to go.
joe rogan
Well, there's 12 fights that night.
fortune feimster
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
So that was just one fight out of many, many, many, many fights.
unidentified
I clearly know a lot about that.
joe rogan
Have you ever watched one live?
fortune feimster
Yeah, not live, but on TV. You should go.
joe rogan
I'll get you tickets.
I love that.
You'll go crazy.
It's pretty wild.
fortune feimster
It looks so fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty fun.
fortune feimster
No one's ever invited me, and I'm not proactive enough to be like, let me get some tickets.
joe rogan
Now you've been invited.
Bring your boy Tom Papa.
fortune feimster
I will.
joe rogan
Yeah, he needs to go, too.
fortune feimster
Bring his bread.
I wonder if he's been to one.
joe rogan
I don't think he has.
fortune feimster
I don't think so.
We're like, hey guys, we're here to see a fight.
joe rogan
Has Tom ever been to one?
I don't think so.
fortune feimster
Probably not.
joe rogan
Maybe?
Jamie seems like maybe.
unidentified
Maybe he showed up with Hannibal one time a long time ago, but I can't remember.
fortune feimster
Oh yeah, maybe.
Tom's always up for anything.
joe rogan
Hannibal goes a lot.
Hannibal's gone to a gang of them.
Yeah.
So you do that morning show with Tom.
fortune feimster
I do, yeah.
joe rogan
Do you enjoy it?
fortune feimster
I love it, except for the 5.30 wake-up.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's horseshit.
Why do you guys have to do it that way?
fortune feimster
Every comic that comes to the show is like, why are you waking up this early?
Because we're all doing spots so late, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, this is the new world.
You don't have to do that anymore.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just a whole idea of, like, it has to be on at 8 a.m., ready, go!
fortune feimster
I don't know.
That's just how they set it up.
You know, 7 to 9 every morning, Monday through Thursday.
We're doing it for Netflix.
joe rogan
That's cool.
fortune feimster
They have a new SiriusXM channel.
That's very cool.
93. They give you numbers?
joe rogan
They tell you how many people are listening?
fortune feimster
They give you no information.
joe rogan
What the fuck, Netflix?
fortune feimster
You have no idea.
We have no idea.
We only know that people are listening because they call in.
That's all.
That's the only way we know.
Just talking to mics, you hope there's an audience.
joe rogan
It's kind of fun, though, that way.
It would be kind of fun to do a show where no one could record it, and it just goes out live, and there's no recording it at all.
That's what radio used to be.
That was one of the fun things about the Howard Stern Show back in the day, because it was so crazy for radio.
But you were hearing this, and this is the only time you were ever going to hear it.
fortune feimster
I remember when his show was on the E! Channel.
That's right.
I was like, him and Anna Nicole Smith show.
I was like, yeah.
joe rogan
That's right.
I forgot she had a show.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rest in peace.
Poor Anna.
She was one of the first, like, I mean, if Instagram was around, she would have been one of the first Insta-hoes.
fortune feimster
Like a reality celebrity.
joe rogan
Yes.
fortune feimster
Everyone was following her life and her lawyer.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Howard, his name's Howard.
joe rogan
J. Howard Marshall.
fortune feimster
Stern?
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, different guy.
Yeah, I think it is Howard Stern.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, different Howard Stern.
fortune feimster
So they had two Howard Stearns on the E channel.
unidentified
That's right.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that was post-divorce after her husband, well, not divorce, he died.
fortune feimster
Oh, the old guy?
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was the best cash-in ever.
Her with him, it was the best cash-in ever.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was like 95 years old in a wheelchair, and she was a fucking bombshell.
fortune feimster
She's like, love of my life.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that.
fortune feimster
Did she get money?
joe rogan
Oh, hell yeah.
fortune feimster
Because I know his kids were fighting.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were trying to keep the money from her.
But look, a deal's a deal.
fortune feimster
That's always a bummer, though.
If you were the kid of that guy...
joe rogan
I had a whole bit about it.
They're like, oh, he doesn't know what's...
I go, he's a billionaire.
He's like 95 years old.
He made a billion dollars from scratch.
And my joke was, you know, like, don't you think he's a tad crafty?
I don't think he knows what's going on.
He doesn't give a fuck.
He doesn't have any time left.
fortune feimster
But, like, two kids or however many kids he has, they don't need a billion dollars.
joe rogan
Look at the size of his ears.
That's one weird thing that happens to old people.
Their ears keep growing.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm looking forward to having giant-ass ears.
fortune feimster
Their face shrinks.
joe rogan
I think I'm going to get my ears reduced when I hit 150. Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
150. That's what my plan is.
My plan's about 150, 160. I'm going to die on the operating table, get my ears reduced.
fortune feimster
I'm just trying to...
I'm just trying to make it to 50. 50?
joe rogan
That's it?
That's all you want out of this life?
fortune feimster
No, I want more.
I want more.
joe rogan
Dude, this fucking shit.
fortune feimster
Coronavirus.
joe rogan
We had a guy on yesterday talking about the coronavirus.
fortune feimster
Oh man, I heard.
joe rogan
It's not good.
fortune feimster
I heard that he was in here.
joe rogan
It's nerve-wracking.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not good.
fortune feimster
Well, because, you know, you don't really know what's coming.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
There's a whole bunch of other diseases that we discussed, too, like chronic wasting disease.
There's a lot of shit that's on the table that could happen to people.
There's all these pandemics that are possible.
fortune feimster
Well, aren't there, like, because certain things are melting, certain diseases that are sort of, like, being uncovered from...
joe rogan
That's a theory, yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a theory that the permafrost is going to release when it gets melted.
It's going to release some ancient bacteria that we don't have an immunity to.
fortune feimster
Oh, man.
joe rogan
It's possible.
It's all possible.
fortune feimster
It's good times right now.
joe rogan
There's something that happens with any time you have overpopulation.
And one of the things that happens is nature starts to try to course correct.
Nature's like, there's too many.
There's too many.
Let's do something.
And it happens with animals.
They get diseases and a bunch of them die off.
It happens with people as well.
It's not a coincidence that this disease came out of China, which is heavily overpopulated.
He was talking to us in depth about these wet markets that they have in China, where they have all these animals that they sell, and they're all just laying around.
He said there was chickens, and what was above the chickens?
Civets?
jamie vernon
Chickens were over those.
They were like dropping their shit on them or something.
joe rogan
And it was civets below, right?
Yeah.
jamie vernon
And there was some weird combination with that.
joe rogan
Right.
And he was saying like with crossover diseases, that's like a test tube.
Like you're literally doing experiments.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But he's like the perfect test tube, perfect environment for creating a new disease.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
As we've seen, wasn't this started from bats?
joe rogan
Yes.
Some people are eating bats over there.
unidentified
Bro.
I'm a sweet and sour chicken gal myself.
joe rogan
Sweet and sour chicken sounds good right now.
fortune feimster
Sweet and sour bat.
joe rogan
Bats is what you eat when you're starving to death.
fortune feimster
I mean, yeah, that's true.
Slim pickings in certain places.
joe rogan
Well, China, again, has a fucking billion people.
And when you see the stuff that they're eating over there, there was a salamander that they had that was like...
I mean, like the size of your thigh bone.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was huge.
Enormous fucking salamander.
They're holding it down with a meat cleaver.
About to hack up this salamander.
fortune feimster
They're like, it's all food.
joe rogan
Look at that bat.
fortune feimster
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Bro.
fortune feimster
That's gnarly.
joe rogan
And they got the wing spread to let you know it's a good one.
fortune feimster
That's a big bat.
joe rogan
That's a juicy bat.
A lot of meat there.
That's a lunch.
fortune feimster
Do we have bats that big?
joe rogan
I don't believe we do.
fortune feimster
I felt like they were always like, yay big.
joe rogan
In America, if we had bats that big, we'd whack them.
We'd be like, that's enough.
That's enough you, you fucks.
Back to the Stone Age.
fortune feimster
I only saw bats when we had swim meets.
joe rogan
Look at those fucking things.
Look at the mouths on those things.
Open that up.
What is that?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
What the fuck is those little werewolves?
fortune feimster
That is crazy.
joe rogan
Bro, what are the mouths on those things?
fortune feimster
Yeah, those like sharp teeth.
jamie vernon
Those bats with the wings chopped off, baby.
joe rogan
No way!
unidentified
Is it?
fortune feimster
I guess I've never seen a bat up close.
jamie vernon
Like no arm or something.
joe rogan
Whoa, dude, I think you're right.
Find out what that is.
I need to know.
Those are huge.
fortune feimster
Clearly, they're popular because that's a lot of bats for sale.
joe rogan
I wonder if they're delicious.
Imagine if we're missing out.
Oh, those are bats.
Those are bats.
They are bats!
Oh god, that is what they look like.
fortune feimster
What do they do with the wings?
joe rogan
Look at the fucking teeth on those monsters!
Imagine if they were like the size of a horse flying around.
fortune feimster
A dragon.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is a dragon.
Look at the teeth on those fuckers.
It doesn't even look real.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like how when they die their mouths are open like they're still trying to bite you.
Just to let you know.
You gotta be hungry as fuck.
fortune feimster
Where is that?
I'm gonna haunt you.
joe rogan
Did you say that was in Indonesia?
Is that what it said?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I just typed in bats in the wet market so we could see what it looked like.
joe rogan
Mmm.
My dog threw up in my car today, and I caught it in a coffee cup.
fortune feimster
Oh, wow, that's impressive.
joe rogan
Well, he was sitting in the front seat, and sometimes he gets sick, especially when he just eats.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I saw the...
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
They start moving, and I just put a coffee cup right where his mouth is while I was driving.
He filled the coffee cup up.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I have a little dog who will just throw up out of nowhere.
joe rogan
Dogs throw up.
fortune feimster
But they do give you warning, which is nice.
We always grab them and pull them off the couch.
joe rogan
Well, when you're driving, you know, the fortunate thing is he's sitting right next to me in the front seat.
fortune feimster
Yeah, he's so cute.
joe rogan
He's adorable, isn't he?
fortune feimster
That's a good dog.
joe rogan
He's a sweetie pie.
Gotta love that dog.
I've never had a golden retriever before.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's my first one, but...
They're like the best dogs ever.
fortune feimster
It's like a classic dog.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're so sweet.
fortune feimster
Yeah, loyal.
joe rogan
They just want love.
That's all they want.
fortune feimster
Totally.
joe rogan
Just wants to hang out with you and give you kisses and go on walks and shit.
fortune feimster
My dogs are like six and a half pounds.
joe rogan
What are they?
What do you have?
fortune feimster
Well, one's a Pomeranian.
It's a little guy.
joe rogan
Oh, those are cute little dogs, but they're a little yappy.
fortune feimster
They are, but we got one that is not yappy.
joe rogan
Really?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
You're lucky.
We hit the jackpot.
And then the other one's a terrier chihuahua mix.
She's like eight pounds.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
fortune feimster
But they guard our house.
unidentified
They're going to cause some damage.
joe rogan
Well, they're good guards in that they let you know something's up.
Like if someone's out there, they're...
So you got a gun.
That's probably the best way.
fortune feimster
I don't have a gun.
joe rogan
You don't have a gun?
fortune feimster
No.
joe rogan
You want one?
fortune feimster
I don't know.
I would want to learn how to use it first.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because I don't want to just have one.
Would you be interested in that?
I've been to shooting ranges for sure.
I mean, I'm from North Carolina.
That's part of, you know.
joe rogan
Part of the culture.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
And I went to, randomly, Luke Bryan's house and shot guns for the first time.
joe rogan
He's buddies with my buddy Cam Haynes.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're real close.
I've never met him.
fortune feimster
He's a cool dude.
joe rogan
I heard he's the best.
fortune feimster
I went to a charity event they had at their house, and it's so nice.
But he had skeet shooting.
I didn't get to do that, but then they had some rifle shooting.
joe rogan
That's the way to live.
fortune feimster
And then the long...
joe rogan
Rifle?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
The long thing.
fortune feimster
You know, the long thingy.
joe rogan
The barrel part.
fortune feimster
Here's what's crazy, though.
My partner, she acted like, oh, what's this?
It's a rifle?
Hmm.
How do you use one of these?
And then there's a five target.
She goes, pow, pow, pow, pow.
Hits every single one of them.
And I was like...
What?
joe rogan
She's sandbagging.
She's lying to you.
fortune feimster
She's lying to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, that bitch has been practicing.
While you're at work, she's out there shooting.
unidentified
If you see me on Dateline, you heard it here first.
joe rogan
I'll let everybody know.
fortune feimster
Yeah, thank you.
joe rogan
That bitch is sandbagging.
fortune feimster
Man.
joe rogan
She's got a Punisher t-shirt hidden away in her closet.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
But, you know, I would want to learn the gun safety, how to use it better.
joe rogan
That's pretty straightforward, though.
I mean, they could teach you that in just a few minutes.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
As long as you're paying attention.
Yeah.
Just, you know, make sure the safety's on.
Make sure there's nothing in the chamber.
Keep your finger off the trigger.
Don't ever point it at somebody, even when it's not loaded.
That's where, when you hear about people doing really stupid things, it's just, that's what it is.
It's just not respecting gun safety.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was that some Instagrammer or TikTok or some guy shot his fucking computer accidentally?
jamie vernon
The guy on Twitch did it live on Twitch.
fortune feimster
Oh jeez.
unidentified
Moron.
joe rogan
He thought it was unloaded and he pulled a trigger on his computer and fucking shot around through his computer.
fortune feimster
It's like video taming him and then disappears.
joe rogan
Silly bitch.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
My brother's in the military so he's...
joe rogan
Here it is.
Let's watch this guy.
jamie vernon
Try again?
No.
joe rogan
Did they remove it?
jamie vernon
Sometimes when you hit that video to play on Twitter, it doesn't play the first time.
joe rogan
You mean when it's embedded in someone's...
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, when it's embedded in someone's page.
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah, no, it is taken down.
fortune feimster
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Oh, unavailable.
You cannot see this.
fortune feimster
How are they going to take that down?
joe rogan
It's too real, man.
fortune feimster
We don't want you to know that...
That happens.
joe rogan
He shot his Yeti cup.
Is that what it is?
Oh, he did.
jamie vernon
He shot a bunch of things.
It was on his desk.
fortune feimster
I was about to say.
jamie vernon
It went right through his computer screen, I think.
fortune feimster
It ricocheted?
jamie vernon
Whatever.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
What happens to someone like that?
They take their gun away?
They should.
jamie vernon
It's against the law, I think, right?
To fire it off in your house?
You can get fined, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't get fined if you shoot an intruder.
If you shoot a person, you're alright.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's okay.
joe rogan
If you shoot your computer, even if you shoot a person, like in Texas, you can kind of, you can shoot, I remember a story where a guy was repoing a guy's car.
A guy hadn't made payments on his truck, I believe.
And the repo guy was opening up the door, and you know, with the Slim Jim and getting into his car, and the guy reached out the window with a rifle and shot the guy in his driveway.
unidentified
Dang.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they didn't charge him.
fortune feimster
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they said someone was breaking into your car, as far as you knew.
It's on your property.
But I mean, he killed this fucking repo guy.
fortune feimster
But then you hear stories about people getting sued, like if they shoot somebody that was trying to break into their house.
joe rogan
That's in other states.
In other states, yeah, you can get sued.
fortune feimster
I mean, which is crazy.
Somebody's breaking into your house, you're kind of, you know, backs against the wall.
joe rogan
Well, you're supposed to assume that they're not going to hurt you.
When they've already made the commitment to enter your home by force, they're already doing something insanely risky.
The idea that you're supposed to somehow or another warn them as much as you can.
I mean, I kind of get it.
What if it's a teenage kid that doesn't know any better and they're just stupid and they're with their friends and they think it's funny to rob someone's house?
I don't know.
It's just...
It's just, it's both ways, right?
It's horrible that people have guns and they can just shoot you and kill you.
But it's also horrible if you can't have a gun to protect yourself from someone who wants to kill you.
Both things are horrible.
If no one had guns, the world would be a way better place.
But then we'd be at the mercy of giant people.
fortune feimster
That's true.
joe rogan
They would just run everything.
fortune feimster
So it's the equalizer.
unidentified
Yeah, guys like the Mountain from the Game of Thrones, he would just be the king of the world.
joe rogan
Everybody would have to shut the fuck up.
If there was no weapons...
fortune feimster
What are we going to do?
joe rogan
That's what it was.
Before people figured out sticks and spears and rocks and stuff, the biggest humans just fucking ran shit.
And we just let them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then someone figured out a bow and arrow.
Like, that motherfucker, when he gets close, it's a problem.
unidentified
Well, if he's on the way, on the way to me, I'm gonna fucking whack him.
joe rogan
And then I'm gonna start running shit.
fortune feimster
I like bow and arrows.
joe rogan
Do you?
fortune feimster
That's fun.
joe rogan
You shot that?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Not the gun.
The old school.
joe rogan
See, that's what a crossbow is.
It's a shitty gun.
It's not really a bow.
Like, people call it a bow.
Like, come on, that's not a bow.
fortune feimster
That's true.
joe rogan
It's got a trigger.
You got a scope.
Get the fuck out of here.
fortune feimster
Yeah, Daryl Walking Dead.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That Walking Dead show's ridiculous.
fortune feimster
He never runs out of...
Arrows.
joe rogan
Never runs out of arrows and he never gets a pass through.
fortune feimster
It's been like 60 years he's been in the zombie apocalypse.
joe rogan
These zombies are so soft, you could walk up to them, stab them in the skull, and your knife will go through their skull.
No problem.
Try stabbing someone in the skull.
That shit's hard.
fortune feimster
I have never.
joe rogan
It bounces off.
It's not easy.
fortune feimster
You can go, just try it.
joe rogan
It's not easy.
You have to be really fucking strong, and you gotta hit a good spot.
You gotta hit a soft spot like a temple.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he just goes right through him with that stupid arrow, but then it never passes through.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Never goes right through.
fortune feimster
Then he just grabs it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's ready to go again.
fortune feimster
No problem.
joe rogan
Not only that, he doesn't even have broadheads on him.
He's got field tips.
Those tips on his arrow, they're like little tiny, they'll make a pencil hole.
What that is is for practice.
He's got practice tips on his fucking arrows.
He doesn't even have broadheads.
fortune feimster
There's some holes in these plots.
joe rogan
A lot of holes.
That show I used to love.
I loved that show for the first few seasons.
It was a great show for the first two or three seasons.
fortune feimster
I watched it up until Rick, the main guy, left.
joe rogan
Oh, I didn't get that far.
fortune feimster
A little spoiler alert.
joe rogan
Yeah, when they killed Glenn, I was like, I'm done.
The day they killed Glenn.
fortune feimster
That was a bummer.
joe rogan
That's the way they did it, too.
You guys got no respect for your main characters.
fortune feimster
Smashing his head in.
joe rogan
And I saw the dude who played Glenn.
I saw him out somewhere.
I want to say it was out of UFC. He might have been out of UFC. In the crowd.
He was somewhere in the crowd.
But he looked depressed.
fortune feimster
Like he was bummed out about his character getting killed that way?
joe rogan
I mean, can you imagine if you're on a show and you're one of the big players on the show?
I mean, he was one of the main guys and one of the more interesting guys and he's on the show for five six years or whatever it was and then one day they just Baseball bat you.
This new guy.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Baseball bats you.
So not only does this new guy on the show who's getting all the heat, but now he baseball bats you to death.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you're just out there in public and probably people are like mocking you on social media.
If you're not smart, you read that shit and you feel all bummed out.
fortune feimster
And that was at the height of its success.
You're like, you're going to go out now?
joe rogan
I know.
fortune feimster
You can't wait till Rick leaves?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, once Rick left, it's dead, right?
fortune feimster
I mean, they've kept it going, but I haven't.
joe rogan
Who's on it now?
Is the chick with the sword still there?
fortune feimster
She was, but she's leaving soon.
Then, like, what do you got?
Because his son's gone, too.
Rick's son, Carl.
unidentified
Carl.
Carl.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
My buddy Josh McDermott's on there.
joe rogan
Yes, I know Josh real well.
fortune feimster
He's Eugene.
joe rogan
Yeah, Josh was on the podcast like early on the show.
Like early.
And we're like, dude, I can't believe you're on the fucking Walking Dead.
fortune feimster
I know.
joe rogan
I knew Josh from way back in the day.
Josh worked with me at the Tempe Improv.
He was doing an open mic contest.
I think on Thursday, on Wednesday or Thursday.
And then we went, we got in there early because we had to do radio back then.
And Josh was on stage.
He was really funny.
And I said, hey man, you want to work with us all week?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's like, fuck yeah.
And so he worked with us all week.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's awesome.
He's a good guy.
joe rogan
Really good guy.
fortune feimster
Funny dude.
Yeah, a lot of people don't know he started.
I mean, that's his thing.
He was a stand-up comedian.
joe rogan
Well, is he still doing stand-up?
fortune feimster
Not much.
Not much.
joe rogan
That sucks.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because he has to be in Atlanta so much.
But he did like a play in New York.
Ew.
Ew.
joe rogan
Ew, there he is.
He could play Bill Hicks in a movie.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
If they ever do a Bill Hicks movie, especially with that haircut that they gave him.
fortune feimster
He'd be good.
joe rogan
Oh, he'd be fucking perfect.
fortune feimster
But he kind of went off the radar a little bit because, you know, the fans are so fanatical that it was just like a lot on Instagram and social media and it was too much and he just went off all that stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, did he really?
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
That's not good once you're done, though.
I know.
fortune feimster
I was like, you might need to come back on.
joe rogan
Once you start doing the fucking improv again, you're going to need that shit.
Unless he just decided he's going to be an actor now.
fortune feimster
Yeah, he might, because he really loves the acting.
But I remember he couldn't tell anybody that he had gotten the show.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember that, too.
fortune feimster
And suddenly he had a mullet.
And we're like...
I mean, not that I'm one to criticize someone's hair, but I'm like, dude, what are you doing?
This is before Theo made the mullet cool.
joe rogan
He kind of did, but not really.
It's really just a punchline.
fortune feimster
He owns it, though.
joe rogan
He owns it.
He lives it.
He is it.
He embodies it.
With Josh's mullet, isn't it...
The hair is like glued on though, right?
It's like some crazy wig thing.
fortune feimster
They might put some pieces, but he grew it out and dyed it dark.
unidentified
Wow.
fortune feimster
And then I was at a wedding with him when the announcement came out.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Look at him.
fortune feimster
Look at that sexy bitch.
I think that's his hair.
joe rogan
I don't know about the top part.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think they glue a lot in there.
fortune feimster
They might.
joe rogan
Looks good, though.
fortune feimster
Give them some extensions.
joe rogan
He can rock that shit.
Look at the upper left-hand corner.
That one where your cursor's at?
That looks good.
That's like a hot dude from the 80s.
You know?
Like a dude who just pulls up in a Trans Am.
fortune feimster
That's right.
You're like, that's who I want to be with.
That guy.
joe rogan
One of those gold chains.
Heather, what are they called?
What's those flat gold chains called?
You know what I'm talking about?
I want to say like Heather Cut or something like that.
fortune feimster
I think my dad had one.
Of course he did.
He was going through a midlife crisis.
joe rogan
Got himself a gold chain.
fortune feimster
A gold chain.
Anytime a guy would show up with a gold chain, you're like, what are you up to?
joe rogan
Some dudes can pull it off.
Black guys can pull it off.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's something about white dudes with more than one gold chain that's really atrocious.
fortune feimster
I'll tell you who couldn't pull it off.
unidentified
Who?
fortune feimster
My dad.
My mom's just like, get out of here!
joe rogan
It's like when guys out of nowhere start wearing a bunch of rings.
Like skull rings, those big pewter or silver rings.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Either you used to do that, and you don't anymore, or you just don't.
fortune feimster
Yeah, you can't just start it.
Or a thumb ring out of nowhere.
You're like, what's going on with you?
joe rogan
Yeah, when I first met Bourdain, he had a thumb ring.
fortune feimster
Oh, really?
joe rogan
And I'm like, what are you doing, man?
What's up with that thumb ring?
And he's like, I'm too old for this thing, and he abandoned it.
He abandoned it after a while.
fortune feimster
Maybe you thought it would catch on.
Like, oh, if I wear a thumb ring.
joe rogan
I think it was kind of cool for a little bit, you know?
fortune feimster
You don't see a much...
joe rogan
No.
fortune feimster
I don't see a thumb ring.
joe rogan
It is weird that we decide.
Like, this finger's fine.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
This finger's fine.
fortune feimster
This is an acceptable ring finger.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the thumb is like, what are you doing, stupid?
fortune feimster
No.
joe rogan
Or a pinky ring, like, what are you in the mafia?
Bro, what are you in the mafia?
Joey Diaz has an American Indian pinky ring that he wears, and you know why he wears it?
Because he can't get it off.
He put it on, and he gained weight, and it's stuck forever.
fortune feimster
That sounds about right.
He's like, what am I gonna do?
joe rogan
What the fuck am I gonna do, cocksucker?
I'm sure it'll come off.
I'm just joking.
But I always wonder if that's what it is.
Because I always see him with that fucking ring on.
fortune feimster
Now that everybody's having to wash their hands, maybe it'll slip off.
joe rogan
It doesn't help.
fortune feimster
It's not helping?
joe rogan
No, Michael Osterholm was saying it's not going to help you.
fortune feimster
Oh, come on.
joe rogan
No, it's airborne.
It's airborne.
It's in the air.
People breathing, coughing.
You're around people.
If you're close to people and they're breathing on you, you're going to get it.
If you touch things, you're going to get it too, though.
I mean, maybe it'll help a little bit if you wash your hands a lot.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's, you know, crowded places is where it's gonna be an issue.
Pearl Jam apparently just canceled all their gigs.
fortune feimster
I saw that.
joe rogan
Up until late April.
And they were playing Madison motherfucking Square Garden.
They canceled that.
Yeah.
They canceled some big gigs.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
I know my tour is starting and I'm like, really?
joe rogan
Everybody's tour.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've been on these text threads with all my friends and like, are you canceling any dates?
Like, what are you hearing?
fortune feimster
I think everybody's kind of waiting.
Like, comic-wise, no one's canceled, I don't think.
Like, I haven't seen comics canceling, so maybe everybody's kind of waiting to see.
Because it's almost like a ripple effect.
Once one goes, you're like, oh, here goes another one, here goes another one.
joe rogan
Right, you feel like you have to.
fortune feimster
Like, South by Southwest, kind of, I felt like, is going to have a ripple effect.
They're saying Coachella's going to be October?
joe rogan
Did you see Elon Musk's tweet on Coachella?
fortune feimster
What did he say?
joe rogan
He said that they should postpone Coachella until it stops sucking.
jamie vernon
I've actually tweeted back to him too.
Did you see their response?
joe rogan
No, pull it up.
jamie vernon
Yeah, let me find the one.
fortune feimster
I've never been to Coachella.
joe rogan
I've never been either.
I'm a grown ass man.
fortune feimster
What am I going to do?
Have a bandana?
joe rogan
Because he was there with a car?
jamie vernon
No, that's Jaden Smith flew a Model X over the crowd.
joe rogan
Wait, Will Smith's son plays at Coachella?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that makes Elon right.
jamie vernon
That was a good idea.
Okay, fine.
joe rogan
That was a good idea.
unidentified
Ha ha.
joe rogan
Oh, that was good.
unidentified
Ha ha.
fortune feimster
He only liked that part.
joe rogan
People know that Elon Musk is reading his tweets.
How does he have time?
He has 16 different jobs.
fortune feimster
He made all his money.
jamie vernon
He's on Twitter all the time.
joe rogan
How is that possible, though?
jamie vernon
He's been tweeting memes.
joe rogan
Right, but how is it possible?
fortune feimster
Maybe he just hires people to do all the stuff now.
joe rogan
No, he's very hands-on.
fortune feimster
Really?
joe rogan
When the Model 3 production was underway, he was telling me that he was working 16 hours a day.
fortune feimster
Dang.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was in the factory 16 hours a day.
Maybe he gives himself a little bit of a break and then he goes on tweet storms.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
He's like, I'm gonna go to the bathroom.
unidentified
Tweet, tweet.
joe rogan
His tweets have cost him millions of dollars, and he's still tweeting.
fortune feimster
He doesn't care.
joe rogan
He doesn't give a fuck.
fortune feimster
But that's how much money...
When you have a lot of money, you're just like, whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm just tweeting, bitch.
What you gonna do?
Yeah, when he wrote Tesla stock selling private at 420 or secured at 420, like as a joke.
He's got like weird 420 jokes, but he doesn't even smoke weed.
Like when he smoked weed on my podcast, he barely inhaled.
fortune feimster
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think he really smokes weed, but he makes a lot of 420 jokes.
Maybe he smokes weed on the sneak tip and just didn't want it in front of everybody, so he just didn't want to be rude because I was offering, so he just took a little bit.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, it is legal.
I'm like, yeah, it's legal, bro.
fortune feimster
It is.
joe rogan
He's too smart.
It's uncomfortable.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because I wouldn't know what to talk with him about.
joe rogan
Imagine talking to regular idiots.
Like when he's sitting down there talking like me.
I felt bad talking to me.
I felt bad he hadn't talked to me.
fortune feimster
No, but you know a lot of stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, I know sometimes.
fortune feimster
You're well read.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know a lot of dumb shit.
fortune feimster
That's good though.
joe rogan
I have like a peripheral knowledge, a cursory understanding of many things.
fortune feimster
It seems like you remember a lot of the things that you do read.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's where it's tricky.
That's where it appears that I'm intelligent.
I just have a good memory.
I just remember things.
fortune feimster
Because I'll read things and it'll go, you know, I'll be like, oh yeah, I read that book.
I couldn't tell you what I read like a year later.
It's gone.
joe rogan
That happens to me too, though.
I only have a memory for things that I think are interesting.
If I think something's interesting, I remember it.
But if my wife tells me some shit, I don't give a fuck.
I forget it five minutes after she told me.
fortune feimster
Did you hear that?
joe rogan
And she'll say it again, and I'll go, what are you talking about?
And she goes, I just talked to you about that.
I'm like, when?
She's like, five minutes ago.
I'm like, I blocked you out.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I do that same thing.
I'm like, what?
She's like, you never listen.
And I'm like...
No, I heard you.
Can you tell me what it was again?
I heard you.
I know, I heard you.
joe rogan
I heard you, bitch.
fortune feimster
It works well for memorizing scripts, though, for the short-term memory.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
I can learn a script super quick.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
fortune feimster
Do the lines, and then it's gone forever.
joe rogan
Well, I feel like as stand-ups, we have to have a memory.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you're on stage for a fucking hour.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and the only reason I'm able to remember my set is because it's so much repetition.
joe rogan
Some people bring notes on stage, but I always find that to be a big distraction.
Like, I feel like, like, Bill Maher brings a fucking, like, a concert pianist's, like, one of those stands, you know, one of those things?
unidentified
Oh, really?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he, like, looks at the notes and, like, passes over them.
fortune feimster
Like, if you're in a choir, like, yeah, I gotcha.
Like, music stand.
joe rogan
A music stand, yeah.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, like a podium.
fortune feimster
I have brought notes on stage, and as soon as I start talking, I put it down and never look at it.
Because it feels odd to stop the rhythm, to be like, let me see what my notes are.
You're like, just go with it and see what happens.
joe rogan
Well, if you have new shit you're working on, then I understand it.
Then, like, I've seen guys go on stage and they have new shit.
But sometimes people go on stage with notes just to let you know they're working on new stuff.
It's almost like it lessens your expectations.
Like, this is all new.
I mean, I don't know.
And then they'll do old jokes.
unidentified
I just flat out tell them, I don't have a punchline to this.
fortune feimster
I'm going to make you go on this five-minute journey, and then it's going to peter out.
joe rogan
Does you feel like sometimes that's how you find the punchline?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
I did a show Saturday night.
I go, I don't have a punchline to this.
You guys have any suggestions?
And they legitimately, like, three dudes raised their hand.
Well, you could...
I was like, oh, you took me literally.
Okay, well, what do you got?
It was all garbage.
joe rogan
You never know.
I'm doing that show tonight at the store, Stand Up on the Spot.
Have you ever done that?
It's Jeremiah Watkins' show.
fortune feimster
He's asked me, but...
joe rogan
You should do it.
fortune feimster
It's really fun.
joe rogan
Well, it used to be called Thunder Pussy, which is a way better name.
And it actually is something that I used to do at the end of my shows.
At the end of my shows, I used to do a Q&A, and I stole that from Jerry Seinfeld.
fortune feimster
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Before I ever did comedy, I was like 19. I took my girlfriend to see Jerry Seinfeld at the Paradise in Boston.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And at the end of the show, he gets requests from the audience.
They raise their hand.
Paradise is a small theater.
I want to say...
Maybe 300, 400 people.
It was a fairly small place.
unidentified
It was cool.
joe rogan
It was an intimate place to see Jerry.
fortune feimster
Did he know these questions were coming?
Like, did he say?
joe rogan
Nope.
fortune feimster
Oh, okay.
They just were like, we want to find out.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he did like an hour of stand-up.
And then afterwards, he actually says, thank you very much, thank you very much.
And then he says, I'm going to take some questions from the crowd, you know, if you have any questions.
fortune feimster
Okay, gotcha.
joe rogan
And then some guy says, how do you feel about the big dig?
Because there's this big thing going on in Boston when they were digging tunnels.
And he went on this whole impromptu, improvised rant on the big dig.
And then someone yelled out something about something.
Now, he did it for a while.
It's like, that is a great way to come up with material.
Particularly at the end of your show.
So I did that for a while.
But then it got to be too draggy.
Like, you never know when to end it.
So I do an hour of stand-up and then an hour of that nonsense.
And you see people yawning.
What am I doing?
I'm torturing these poor fucks.
fortune feimster
Well, because sometimes in that you can find some real gold, and then other times it's just like no one cares.
joe rogan
Digging through shit, looking for diamonds.
fortune feimster
For sure.
joe rogan
Just another shovel of shit.
fortune feimster
It's like getting crowd work.
You're like, where do you work?
And it's something lame.
You're like, and where do you work?
unidentified
You just move on.
joe rogan
How do you write, Fortune?
fortune feimster
I write.
I go to the computer and write it all out.
joe rogan
That's what's up.
Knuckles.
fortune feimster
Boom.
unidentified
Do you do that?
joe rogan
Yes.
fortune feimster
I cannot.
Some people are like, oh, I write on stage.
I'm like, no, no, no.
I'll find punchlines on stage, but I have to know where I'm going.
joe rogan
Good for you.
fortune feimster
But I was a journalist for seven years.
unidentified
Were you really?
fortune feimster
Yeah, I was an entertainment journalist.
joe rogan
No kidding.
fortune feimster
It was my day job while I was pursuing comedy at night.
joe rogan
How'd you get that gig?
fortune feimster
Very random.
I was the student speaker at my college graduation, and this actress was a commencement speaker, and she hired me to come out to LA and be her assistant.
And her neighbor wrote for the LA Daily News, and she's like, I heard you're a good writer from your speech in college.
I was like, yeah.
It seemed to go well.
She's like, do you want to write for me?
Cover events and stuff.
And it'll be in the LA Daily News.
I was like 23. I was like, yeah, sure.
Why not?
So I just became a journalist.
I had to just learn how to do it.
unidentified
Wow.
fortune feimster
So I was going to movie premieres or the Grammys, Oscars, Emmys.
I talked to celebrities on the phone and would write stories.
It wasn't like gossip.
It was more like...
What are you working on?
Tell me about the project.
What are you doing next?
What was it like working on so-and-so?
So I was getting to learn all this stuff about the business.
joe rogan
Were you trying to make them funny or were you just laying it out?
fortune feimster
Just laying it out.
Laying out the interview and what they said.
And then that job led to a syndicated column.
So it became full-time for the next six years.
unidentified
Really?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
So I wrote all day from like 9 to 6. And then I would do events at night.
And then I started doing comedy like two years into that.
joe rogan
Wow, so you would write all day and then do comedy at night.
So while you were writing, would you say, ooh, this could be funny, and then set it aside?
fortune feimster
Yeah, well, I always was requesting to go to funny movies.
I knew I could interview comedians.
Sarah Silverman had a show on Comedy Central.
I was like, oh, can I go to set and interview all the comics?
So I was gathering knowledge that way.
Knowing that I love comedy, but I was never that person like, I do comedy, because I'm brand new in stand-up.
But it was more of just like, it taught me the skill of just getting to the story faster.
Like, what's the interesting part of this interview?
What's the interesting part of this story?
And getting to that helped me just be a better writer.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a great skill to have when you're crafting bits.
fortune feimster
Well, I never knew when I started stand-up that it would be so much writing.
Obviously, now that I'm a stand-up, I'm like, duh, you have to have material.
But going into it, you just don't realize the content that you need to create.
joe rogan
Well, there's a big mistake that many comics make where they do just write on stage.
And then they have these sort of rambling intros to a bit or a bit...
Maybe they have something there, but they don't sit down in front of a computer for hours and just try to pick it apart and try to find the best way to do it.
But if they did that, they would cut down on the process of creating that bit.
You can get to the end.
Some guys are just great at figuring out how to shorten things up and get to the point really quick, but some people are not.
And they get comfortable with kind of half-assing it.
And then they stick to that form through the entire bit.
And you'll see the bit and you're like, hey man, that bit would be so much better if you chopped out like half of the words.
fortune feimster
Yeah, for sure.
And I mean, I'm definitely more of a storyteller.
So that's why I like to sit down and write it because I'm not doing set up punchline, set up punchline.
I'm telling a story, but I'm trying to make it funny on the way there.
And so for me, I have to write because I have to see what it looks like because I'm like, oh, that sentence is really bland.
What like one word can I put in there that just you're like, oh, I see it now.
I see what that is.
Instead of just being like, you know, a ball, you know, you're finding something more unique about it.
joe rogan
I tell people there's four steps.
To creating material.
And you could just do one.
The one you could do is you could just do it on stage.
You could just fuck around on stage and you will come up with an act.
Or you can write in front of your computer or in front of a notebook and then you go on stage, you improvise on stage, and then you listen to your sets.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Those are the steps.
Those are all the steps.
So you can fuck off on the other three and just go on stage.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're a good comic and you can figure out how to develop and act that way.
But I really think you're doing yourself a disservice.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And comics come up with this bullshit like, oh, I write on stage.
I'm like, I do too.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do too.
fortune feimster
Yeah, you're finding stuff all the time.
joe rogan
I sit down and there's some of my best punchlines have come from sitting in front of the fucking computer.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because you're pushing yourself too.
unidentified
Yes.
fortune feimster
You're like, this is not good.
I would stare at my computer for an hour until I find even if it's one sentence, that makes it better.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, and that's so valuable.
You could do a hundred sets and never change your bit.
But you could have one hour session in front of a computer where you're like, oh...
Oh!
Because if you're just alone with nothing else and no distractions, and you can look at the stuff, it just makes sense that with focus and time, you can create better.
It just makes sense, so you can look at it better.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and that's what I was doing when I was prepping for this Netflix special.
I wrote it all out.
It was like, I don't know, 18 pages, something like that.
And then I was going on stage and working it out.
Taping it, listening to it, and then constantly moving this paragraph, moving this.
All of the work was done at the computer, moving it to where it needed to be.
joe rogan
Do you use a program or anything to move stuff around?
fortune feimster
No, I just use Word.
joe rogan
Word's fun.
There's a program called Scrivener.
Have you ever heard of it?
I like it a lot because what I do is I'll put all of the subjects on the left column.
fortune feimster
Right, yeah.
joe rogan
And they're labeled.
And then when you click on each one, it'll be the whole bit.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
But I don't write in it.
I write in Word.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Or I write in...
I used to write in something called Write Room.
But that was when I was writing on a Mac.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the problem is with the Macs, their laptop keyboards suck.
fortune feimster
Oh, no.
You were saying there's something you discovered.
joe rogan
Thinkpads.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lenovo Thinkpads.
fortune feimster
That one, yeah.
joe rogan
They're so much better.
I mean, you make way less errors.
First of all, they're curved.
The keys are curved, so your fingers fit into them.
And also, there's a lot of key travel.
There's like 1.7 millimeters to, I think their maximum one is 2.2 millimeters, and the minimum is 1.5.
1.5 is probably as low as you really want to go.
Because anytime you get around 1, it's just not enough key travel.
In Apple, everything has to look beautiful.
Everything has to be designed.
It's all about the sleek design.
fortune feimster
It's minimal stuff.
joe rogan
But it's horseshit.
Because you've made a tool that doesn't work as well.
It's flat keys.
They're not concave.
They have that beautiful C shape that Lenovo has.
So your fingers, you know which key you're hitting.
There's no errors.
You don't fuck up as much.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I did the old school.
My mom made me take keyboarding in high school.
So I had to learn how to do those things.
So the keyboard is important.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very important.
You should try a ThinkPad.
I'm telling you, there's shit.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I will.
joe rogan
There's so much better.
And you get over the Windows thing.
Everybody's like, Windows sucks.
It doesn't suck anymore.
Windows 10 does not suck.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's easy.
It doesn't fuck up.
It sucks when it has to update.
That shit takes a long time.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
But that happens on the Mac, too.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
You just have it updated at night or something.
joe rogan
But to type on it is a dream.
It's so much easier.
fortune feimster
Well, especially if you're spending so much time riding on something like that.
If you're just surfing the net, it's like, eh, I see, whatever.
joe rogan
I have this ThinkPad X1 Carbon, and it fucking weighs nothing.
It weighs like a couple of pounds.
fortune feimster
Which is nice to take.
On the road, I'm always like, my book bag is like, oh my gosh.
joe rogan
Well, Apple wants to make aluminum laptops.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that old beast that I have over there.
I have an old 17-inch one.
fortune feimster
It's heavy and then you have that big old power strip.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that I could fuck somebody up with that if they're trying to mug me.
fortune feimster
That's true.
joe rogan
If you have a bag with a 17-inch laptop in, that's like a bomb.
fortune feimster
That is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's actually the reason why I have that one because the key travel was different back then.
The key travel is actually pretty good on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the keys are a little curved.
But once they started trying to make them thinner and lighter, they fucked up.
fortune feimster
That's what I have.
Because I have the air.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
So it's like my little fat fingers are like Kitty P. It's hard.
And it changed something recently where it's like I'm writing words and it's changing it for me.
Autocorrect?
Yeah, but to like...
joe rogan
The wrong ones?
fortune feimster
Totally wrong words.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, oh, I think you meant this.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I'm like, that's not...
Yeah, it's been weird.
There was some update that was weird lately.
joe rogan
In Microsoft Word?
fortune feimster
I think so, yeah.
Unless I'm thinking about my phone.
It could be my phone.
joe rogan
It's the phone.
The phone does that with me.
It annoys the shit out of me.
It's like, I think you meant to say.
fortune feimster
But it's like the craziest words that no one's ever going to use.
joe rogan
Really?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the classic.
Ducking.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
fortune feimster
Who's ducking?
Yeah.
joe rogan
How often does that happen?
fortune feimster
At some point, they need to embrace that people are saying fucking.
joe rogan
Well, why don't they have, like, a way you can click on it and say, learn?
Like, maybe old people don't want you suggesting fucking.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Or, you know, hardcore Christians or something like that.
But if you're a person who says fuck all the time, you should be able to autocorrect to fuck.
Like, it says that.
fortune feimster
Once you've used it enough, it should be like, all right, this is a standard word.
joe rogan
I wonder if Android does it the same way.
fortune feimster
I don't know.
joe rogan
I wonder if Android corrects like that too.
fortune feimster
My partner is an Android, but I've never asked.
joe rogan
Lesbians are so funny with partner.
Why don't you just say my girl?
fortune feimster
My girl.
joe rogan
My woman.
fortune feimster
I don't know.
joe rogan
Why is it partner?
Partner is always like, are you guys in business?
fortune feimster
It seems respectful.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
fortune feimster
I don't know.
I think because we couldn't get married.
I mean, we're not married.
We're engaged.
But I think because people couldn't get married for so long, it was like they couldn't say wife or husband.
joe rogan
Right.
fortune feimster
So the word became partner.
joe rogan
It is weird, right?
Like, wife and husband and all these words.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just standard words that we just use over and over again.
fortune feimster
My wife.
joe rogan
My girl.
fortune feimster
It's like your girlfriend for a long time.
It's your fiance for a long time.
It's wife.
joe rogan
When did bae come along?
fortune feimster
When did BAE? When did bae come along?
joe rogan
Seems like it's real recent.
Within like three or four years.
fortune feimster
Couple of years ago?
joe rogan
Yeah.
These fucking kids on Instagram.
They probably came up with it.
fortune feimster
My bae.
joe rogan
Twitter kids.
Yeah.
It's just a partner's weird.
unidentified
My partner.
joe rogan
A friend of mine used it and he was talking about his wife.
He's like, my partner and I, your partner?
What are you talking about?
fortune feimster
Your wife?
joe rogan
That lady that you're married to?
When did she become your fucking partner?
fortune feimster
You guys going to business together?
joe rogan
Well, it's like people who are progressive, they try to use words that gay and lesbian people use.
fortune feimster
The right words, yeah.
joe rogan
And they try to use it almost as like they're an ally.
fortune feimster
Like we're all one.
joe rogan
Yeah, my partner and I are like, your partner?
Bitch, your wife?
That lady you're married to?
Shut the fuck up.
fortune feimster
I find the word fiancé weird.
joe rogan
It is weird.
fortune feimster
She is my fiancé.
We've been engaged for over two years, but it's weird to be like, this is my fiancé.
It almost seems more pretentious.
joe rogan
It is a little bit, right?
It's like, shit or get off the pot, bro.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
How come you...
unidentified
People are like, when are you getting married?
fortune feimster
I mean, we are getting married, but we are like, just neither of us are planners.
joe rogan
You should be able to say it the week before the wedding.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
My fiance and I. The week before you could say it.
Other than that, stop saying it.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
So if you come up with a better word for me, let me know.
joe rogan
One good thing about fiance is that it's gender neutral.
Right, it's boy, girl, it's everybody.
fortune feimster
Right.
It's just spelled differently, but no one really cares about that.
joe rogan
Whereas I read in some country they have a marriage contract that lasts a certain amount of time.
What the fuck was that?
I was like, wow, that's interesting.
It was like a five-year contract with an ability to renew.
fortune feimster
Oh, and so if it's not working out...
joe rogan
It just dissolves.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like a lease on a car.
You just get that piece of shit back.
fortune feimster
That's not bad for some people.
joe rogan
That's great for some people.
Anna Nicole Smith's husband would have loved that.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Just take a lease and try it out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
It'd save you a lot in the divorce fees and...
joe rogan
Right.
I don't know.
It's weird.
In a case like the Anna Nicole Smith situation, that kind of situation is weird when one person has the money and you can tell the other person is only with them for the money.
And they're trying to talk them into signing a contract and then they'll eventually leave them.
Like, I knew this lady.
She was really hot.
Her boyfriend was really not.
And we all knew what was coming.
And the guy had money.
fortune feimster
And he wrote her into his...
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They got married.
Yeah, they got married.
And she took the house.
She took everything.
fortune feimster
Oh, she left him?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We knew she was going to leave him.
fortune feimster
How long did she stay in it?
joe rogan
She stayed in it a couple of years.
Just enough to get the chizzash.
Just enough.
fortune feimster
That's brutal.
joe rogan
It was ugly for all involved.
Watching it on the outside, we're like, that poor bastard.
fortune feimster
But you can't say anything to your friend?
unidentified
Nope.
fortune feimster
Because then your friend's like, well, what's wrong with me?
Can't say a goddamn thing.
Why would she not want to be with me for me?
joe rogan
Well, I wasn't tight enough with him.
fortune feimster
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was just a casual friend.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
fortune feimster
But it was like the writing was on the wall.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The moment I saw the two, I was like, oh, he's got money.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, I see what's up.
And she was just...
She had hungry eyes.
That bitch was looking around.
Hungry eyes.
Yeah, she was looking around.
She was looking around for...
fortune feimster
She's like, what you got in that wallet?
joe rogan
Yeah, she was looking around for other dick, too.
It was just one of those things.
They're always looking for the next.
But it is a possibility.
That's the thing.
It's like...
Being a prostitute's illegal, but being a gold digger's fine.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Like, you should go to jail for being a gold digger.
fortune feimster
And what's the difference, you know what I mean?
The line is not that far apart.
joe rogan
Very close.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, do you remember Donald Sterling, the guy who owned the Clippers, the other really hot girlfriend?
She recorded him saying some racist shit.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's right, yeah.
joe rogan
That was a perfect example.
Like, that girl was clearly a gold digger.
He was disgusting.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was disgusting, and she was hot.
fortune feimster
And then he had to sell, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they made him sell the team.
I had a whole bit about it because it's really funny.
What he said was, he goes, I don't care if you fuck these guys, just don't take pictures with them.
fortune feimster
That's what he said?
joe rogan
Yeah.
See, everybody, like, it was a virtue signaling opportunity for everybody to make sure that everyone knew that they were not racist and that they abhor racism.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Which is wonderful, right?
But what he said was pretty reasonable.
He said, I don't care if you fuck these guys, just don't take pictures with them.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Like embarrassing him or something?
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
But it's his girlfriend.
So imagine if he said it the other way.
I don't care if you take pictures with them, just don't fuck them.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
That would be reasonable.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
So he's giving her a way better deal.
She's allowed to fuck them.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's saying, I don't care if you fuck these guys.
fortune feimster
He's like, take all the selfies you want.
joe rogan
Yeah, just don't take pictures.
Imagine if he said it the other way.
Everybody would be like, well, that's reasonable.
If he said, you know, just take pictures all day, but don't fuck them.
That would be like a standard thing that someone would ask of a spouse.
fortune feimster
I mean, most spouses don't want you fucking other people.
unidentified
Yeah, most.
joe rogan
Some of them do.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what gets really weird, right?
The people that want you to fuck other people.
fortune feimster
Like the open stuff.
joe rogan
They want you to take pictures.
Even worse, like cucks.
Like there's guys.
There's guys that want guys to fuck their girl.
fortune feimster
Oh yeah, because there is like a masochist or something like that?
joe rogan
No, they're cuckolds.
That's what it's called.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's the...
joe rogan
That's the real term.
fortune feimster
Oh, I didn't know.
I just thought those were like pussies.
joe rogan
That is pussies.
But the origin of the term is cuckold.
And the origin of the term is like a man who knows his wife is fucking other guys.
fortune feimster
Oh, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
And either approves of it or likes the feeling of shame.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
There's some men that like the feeling of shame and humiliation.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
That is not me.
joe rogan
It takes all kinds to run this world.
fortune feimster
I'd be crying like a bitch.
What?
joe rogan
But isn't it weird how it does take all types of people to run this world?
fortune feimster
There's so many different kinds of people.
When it comes to sex stuff, people are all over the spectrum.
joe rogan
All over the spectrum.
Furries.
People like to dress up like mascots.
There's a lot of CEOs that like to hire dominatrix to tell them what to do and kick them in the balls.
fortune feimster
It's the only person that will talk to them like that.
joe rogan
They like it.
They like women to spit on them and stuff and piss on them and just treat them like shit.
unidentified
I'll tell you this, I don't want to be pissed on.
I stepped on a sea urchin once.
fortune feimster
Somebody said, I'll piss on your foot.
I was like, I'm going to just be in pain for the next two hours.
I don't think that works.
That's what they say, but I don't know.
joe rogan
I stepped on one, too.
They just poured vinegar on it.
fortune feimster
I'm like, you don't have an ointment?
Why do you have to go straight to pissing on my foot?
joe rogan
Not much they can do.
I just pulled the things out.
I had to pull them out.
We were snorkeling, and then we got near this reef, and I wanted to put my feet down, catch a little break, and I just went right onto a sea urchin.
fortune feimster
Well, I attempted to surf in Hawaii, and I couldn't even get my board past the break, and so it kept pumping.
Pushing me back in.
And I got so tired of just like, I had no upper body strength.
So I just, I was like, fuck it.
I stood up and immediately like stood on the sea urchin.
joe rogan
Yeah, those fuckers are rough.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't want to get eaten because they're delicious.
Have you ever had sea urchin sushi?
fortune feimster
Never.
joe rogan
Oh, so good.
It looks like an orange tongue.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's that orange.
Yeah.
I've never had it because it looks weird.
joe rogan
It does look weird, but it's quite delicious.
fortune feimster
And the texture is not?
joe rogan
It's a little mushy.
fortune feimster
Okay.
joe rogan
But the texture doesn't bother me.
fortune feimster
Texture bothers me.
I can't eat certain foods.
joe rogan
Really?
fortune feimster
Like what?
Like strawberries.
I know, it's so weird.
joe rogan
That's a crazy one.
fortune feimster
The little seeds.
joe rogan
Oh really?
The pokey-outy seeds?
fortune feimster
I hate them.
Like the feeling of like...
joe rogan
What about kiwis?
fortune feimster
You okay with that?
Be the same.
Because it's mushy and seeds.
joe rogan
Oh, you're a weirdo.
fortune feimster
I'm a weirdo.
unidentified
Yeah, you definitely are.
fortune feimster
I think I'm just coming up with excuses not to eat fruit.
Like mentally, I'm telling myself this.
joe rogan
Keep away from seeds.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you okay with oranges?
fortune feimster
I like oranges, yeah.
joe rogan
What about when you find a seed?
Do you get mad?
fortune feimster
It's different because it's not like that hard...
I don't know.
Something about the hard, crunchy thing I don't like.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
fortune feimster
Same with like...
Raspberries, those kind of seeds.
joe rogan
Raspberry seeds are a little odd.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're a little odd.
fortune feimster
But I love the flavor of strawberries.
joe rogan
So what do you do about it?
Do you make someone peel your strawberries?
That's what you do when you become a super baller.
You're flying around in private jets, get your toes done.
Just have someone peel your strawberries.
fortune feimster
They're like, why?
Because I said so!
unidentified
Do it, bitch.
joe rogan
Peel the strawberries.
fortune feimster
You don't have any texture thing?
No.
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
fortune feimster
Well, good.
joe rogan
I don't have any problems with Dexter.
Yeah, I get it though.
I eat a lot of crazy shit though.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't have any problems with...
fortune feimster
You're a very healthy guy.
joe rogan
I'm pretty healthy.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Good for you.
joe rogan
Thank you.
fortune feimster
Good for you.
joe rogan
Do you have any aspirations to be healthy?
fortune feimster
Do you want to one day?
I mean, I've been trying to be better.
I lost 40 pounds.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
fortune feimster
Congratulations.
Thank you.
I mean, it's more like 32 now.
That's good enough.
But, you know, it's a start.
joe rogan
It is a good start.
fortune feimster
It always fluctuates.
But I think once I got with my fiancée, she's very skinny.
joe rogan
Your partner?
fortune feimster
Yeah, my partner.
She's very skinny and she comes from a healthy family.
joe rogan
And did she ever, like, bitch, you're crushing me?
fortune feimster
Well, she was just...
Yeah, pretty much.
She just was like, you know, we were like in love and it was new.
We were eating like 10 course meals all the time.
You know, you're just like, then you're just like...
joe rogan
Living the high life together.
fortune feimster
Watching Netflix.
joe rogan
Do you drink?
fortune feimster
Yeah, I drink.
joe rogan
So you're drinking wine?
fortune feimster
Yeah, drinking wine.
Old fashioned is my drink.
unidentified
Good times.
joe rogan
Getting a little lit with the one you love.
fortune feimster
But we both just like, we got engaged and saw our engagement photos and we were like, oh shit.
unidentified
Bullshit!
fortune feimster
Like, there's no joy in looking at our engagement photos.
We're both, like, horrified.
So, it, like, was the catalyst.
We did that Whole30 thing, you know what that is?
joe rogan
What's that?
fortune feimster
It's, like, for 30 days, it's an elimination diet.
It's, like, no sugar, no dairy, no gluten, soy, all that stuff, no alcohol.
And it really, like, made me, for the first time, start reading labels.
I started realizing, like, what all the...
Chemicals are in foods and it's basically eating whole foods like meat and vegetables basically for a month.
joe rogan
And how'd it go?
fortune feimster
I lost 20 pounds the first round.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
fortune feimster
Kept it off and then did another round like six months later lost another like 18-20 and I kept it off for a while and it's like over the holidays like Seven pounds or so creep back in.
joe rogan
Yeah, the holiday creep.
fortune feimster
Yeah, but at least I'm like, we're trying to go hiking together.
Because I just come from a family.
I come from North Carolina.
We love fried food.
My family's, we're big folks.
And I just never really learned that nutrition thing, you know?
We didn't have a lot of money.
And when you're poor, all the, you know, the worst foods for you are like a dollar.
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that amazing that poor people are fat in this country?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is the only time in history where poor people are overweight.
In the past, I mean, look at photos from the 1920s when people were poor.
They had sunken cheekbones.
They're trying not to starve to death.
They just needed food.
fortune feimster
Yeah, so, you know, it's like when you don't have a lot of money, you do tend to go to, like, the fast food places, the food that's not good for you.
So I'm almost, like, having to retrain myself and my brain as an adult.
And it seems, like, backwards.
joe rogan
You can eat pretty good.
At fast food if you're smart.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like if you can get like three egg McMuffins and just take away the bread and just eat the ham and the egg.
And that is actually good.
fortune feimster
It's not bad?
joe rogan
It's actually good for you.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a bullshit egg.
It's really the yellow of the yolk looks like your legal pad.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
You know, I mean, yellow.
Like I buy these organic eggs.
I used to have chickens, but the coyotes killed them all.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's a bummer.
joe rogan
Those cunts.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cunty coyotes.
fortune feimster
My brother has chickens and the same thing.
joe rogan
My yolks used to look like orange.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I would get them from the chickens that I raised because I'd let them roam around, but that's also how they got whacked.
fortune feimster
Gotcha.
joe rogan
We lost a bunch of them that way and then we lost more of them because they broke into the chicken coop and killed them all.
But...
I buy them now from this organic company that lets their chickens free range and their dark, dark, healthy yolks.
You don't get that from McDonald's, unfortunately.
fortune feimster
No.
joe rogan
But you still get eggs, which are good for you, and ham, which is not bad for you.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can eat pretty good.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I think where I get messed up is the road.
The road's hard for me to, like, really maintain that.
I need structure.
I need, like, oh, you know, every day, we're gonna hike, we're gonna do this, we're gonna eat at home.
As soon as I start on the road, it's like...
Oh, we're, you know, well, we gotta taste this delicacy from, I don't know, Detroit.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, actually, after shows is a real problem for everybody because you're tired.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when you're tired, you make the worst food choices.
fortune feimster
For sure.
joe rogan
You're like, fucking feed me.
Cake.
Give me cake.
fortune feimster
Cake for breakfast.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want fries.
Poutine.
You ever been to Montreal and have poutine?
fortune feimster
It's good.
unidentified
That shit's good.
fortune feimster
It's really good.
joe rogan
That shit with the gravy.
fortune feimster
Montreal has some good food.
joe rogan
They have some good food.
There's one of my favorite restaurants ever is in Montreal.
It's called Joe Beef.
fortune feimster
I've heard.
I've never been, but all the comics love that place.
joe rogan
God damn, it's good.
And the guys, Fred and David, have been in here before.
They've been on the podcast before.
They're great.
I was introduced to them by Bourdain.
fortune feimster
It's a good steakhouse, right?
joe rogan
They have everything.
fortune feimster
Okay.
joe rogan
It's a French restaurant.
fortune feimster
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
Spectacular food.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the first time I ever ate horse.
unidentified
Oof!
fortune feimster
I had horse in Switzerland by accident.
joe rogan
By accident?
It was bovine.
fortune feimster
It was gnarly.
What did you think it was?
Again, that texture, man.
It tasted like a raw hamburger patty.
joe rogan
Oh, well, it was probably tartare.
It was probably horse tartare.
fortune feimster
Yeah, but I didn't order that.
I ordered a hamburger.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
So you thought you were getting a hamburger and they gave you raw horse meat?
fortune feimster
Yep.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
They're like, listen bitch, I'll tell you what to eat.
fortune feimster
You're going to need some horse.
I bit down in it and I was like...
joe rogan
Like my dog in the car.
It is interesting what we choose to eat and what we choose not to eat.
I went down a homesteading rabbit hole last night.
For whatever reason, you know, sometimes I go on these YouTube rabbit holes and last night I spent an hour watching videos of people who raise all of their own food in the homestead.
fortune feimster
Okay.
joe rogan
And this one guy was talking about rabbits, and he raises rabbits, and he has these rabbits in hutches, and then they keep them and eat them.
And he was like, two rabbits will give you 600 pounds of meat a year.
fortune feimster
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
Two rabbits.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they fuck so much.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And they make so many rabbit babies.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they keep doing it.
And then you mix them up and make them fuck them.
And they all fuck each other and they make more rabbits.
And then you keep feeding those rabbits.
And the other thing that he was saying was the rabbit poop is like the best fertilizer on earth.
It's amazing fertilizer.
And you scatter the rabbit poop and also the birds...
Will actively peck at the rabbit poop and they will turn the rabbit poop.
They actually turn the soil for you.
They fold it into the soil for you.
fortune feimster
Man.
joe rogan
Crazy.
fortune feimster
These people living off the land, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, well this guy was living off the land.
He seemed a little odd.
fortune feimster
Usually...
joe rogan
They always are.
fortune feimster
They're a little...
When they're off the grid.
joe rogan
He was homeschooling his children, you know, the whole deal.
Like, Jesus is coming back, and when he does, we're gonna give him rabbit meat.
fortune feimster
Everybody's got a bunker.
joe rogan
Jesus is coming back.
Don't listen to those people at school.
They don't know shit.
fortune feimster
I know those little kids, they try to intertwine with other kids at some point.
unidentified
So hard.
fortune feimster
And you're just like, aw.
joe rogan
Poor kids.
fortune feimster
You were homeschooled, right?
joe rogan
That's a rough spot for kids if they've been homeschooled and then one day they get out in the real world.
fortune feimster
Well, you just need to socialize them.
I mean, listen, if you want to homeschool, good for you.
I understand some people, you know, you could end up getting a much better education if you're a good homeschool teacher, but socialize your kids.
That will help them.
unidentified
It's hard.
joe rogan
I knew this one kid that was socialized and his dad used to take him to jiu-jitsu and he was pretty talented, like pretty talented jiu-jitsu kid.
But he was just so socially awkward for someone his age.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whereas other kids, I want to say like 16, 17 at the time, other 16, 17-year-old kids who would come to class, they'd be like kids.
They'd be having a good time, trying to learn, like, wow, this is cool.
But they were used to being around people.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
This kid was like, oh, the wild world.
We're out here in the world in his jiu-jitsu class and he seemed like a little shell-shocked to be around large groups of people, whereas kids that go to school, you're used to being around large groups of people.
There's a very valuable socializing aspect to school.
fortune feimster
Absolutely.
I mean, most people don't even learn anything in college.
They just learn how to be a cool person to hang out with.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, they learn some weird stuff.
fortune feimster
Not everybody.
joe rogan
Well, they do learn, but some people also learn how to push buttons.
They learn how to get people to like you.
They learn how to get people to think you're virtuous and how to be for the right causes and how to shame people that are for the wrong causes and how to try to...
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on in college, too.
But that's also part of being a young person, right?
You're young, you have these ideals, and you're trying to enforce them on other people.
fortune feimster
Or you think you know more than everybody else.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
It's adorable to watch.
fortune feimster
When I go to college shows now, I'm like, oh, you guys are so young.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
I can't believe it.
joe rogan
You still do college shows?
fortune feimster
Like, here and there, it's Once in a Blue Moon.
They're hard.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Because, you know, those kids just, like, they don't know how to take things, like, they don't get the joke sometimes, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
They don't know how to joke around.
fortune feimster
Everything's so serious.
Yeah, very literal.
Where you're like, hey, I was being sarcastic, you know?
joe rogan
You're not allowed to.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
You shouldn't do that.
Yeah.
They're like 80% people.
They're not 100% people.
fortune feimster
I've been schooled sometimes.
Really?
You shouldn't say that.
Like, ah, come on.
joe rogan
The kids in the crowd tell you or afterwards?
fortune feimster
It was a while ago, but, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
You're just like, all right.
I'm not getting paid enough.
joe rogan
I had a kid come up to me once and tell me that something was anti-Semitic.
And this was the...
It was like someone said, do you know any...
It was like one of those fun...
It was like a little auditorium, not a big crowd.
This was way back in the day, right?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And someone said, do you know any joke jokes?
Any good jokes?
I said, okay, I got to know one.
Two Jews walk into a bar.
They buy it.
That's it.
And the guy comes up to me and goes, that joke was very anti-Semitic.
I go, why?
Because Jewish people are good at business?
fortune feimster
They're successful.
joe rogan
That's not anti-Semitic.
That's pro-Jewish.
That means they're good at buying stuff.
They're good at running businesses.
That may be a stereotype, but it's a positive stereotype.
It's a successful stereotype.
It's like black guys with big dicks.
Is that racist?
fortune feimster
Who doesn't want...
You to say that.
joe rogan
That's not racist.
It may be stereotypical.
It's a stereotype, but it's a positive stereotype.
fortune feimster
But no one's been like, yo, Joe, don't say I have a big dick.
joe rogan
Italian grandmas are good cooks.
Oh my god, you're racist.
No, that's usually a fact.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because there's usually more people where that is true than not.
joe rogan
It's a stereotype, but it's a positive stereotype.
There's a difference between something that's discriminatory, like it's mean and nasty, and something that's just fun.
fortune feimster
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
And college kids don't get that yet.
fortune feimster
No.
joe rogan
They're at 80%.
And so I had this conversation with the kid.
He felt like, boy, he was going to tell me.
He came up to me to let me know.
This is, again, this is the 90s, early 90s.
And I was like, how is that possibly anti-Semitic?
And he didn't have an answer.
fortune feimster
He didn't have an answer.
joe rogan
He was baffled.
He thought he could just say it.
And then I'd be like, oh my god, I'm sorry.
I didn't know I offended you.
And be like, you did.
And then he was going to leave.
I'm like, think about what the joke is.
I'm saying they buy the bar.
How is that bad in any way?
fortune feimster
But that's half of college shows.
unidentified
You're explaining your jokes.
fortune feimster
I'm taking up time just explaining the joke I just told.
joe rogan
But that one in particular is so ridiculous.
Because there's nothing negative about it at all.
It's the simplest joke of all time.
Two Jews walk into a bar, they buy it.
It's not even that funny.
But I don't know any jokes.
fortune feimster
I don't know any jokes either.
We were like, oh, that's the worst.
And we were like, tell me a joke.
Get out of here.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah.
Tell me what you talk about.
Oh, God.
I talk about life.
I've had fucking comedian, like older comedians in particular, say that.
So what kind of shit do you talk about on stage?
Like, well, I talk about the hierarchies and how we can dismantle them and separate people.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
I don't know what I talk about.
I talk about life.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I see.
fortune feimster
Or you will meet somebody for five minutes.
They'll be like, you can talk about me if you want.
I don't know you.
joe rogan
Oh, did they say that?
fortune feimster
Yeah, what would I possibly talk about?
joe rogan
That's what you should say.
People that think I'm going to talk about them on stage.
Hey, fuckface.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ain't interested.
fortune feimster
I'm like, I'm minding my own crazy life.
My own silly family.
unidentified
Yeah, I have no time.
fortune feimster
I'm good.
joe rogan
I have no time to be fucking with you.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And your nonsense.
fortune feimster
Your nonsense, man.
Yeah, I came up at the store.
That's where I first learned stand-up.
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
What year did you start?
2007. Wow, that's the year I left.
fortune feimster
I know!
That was the whole controversy.
Wow.
And, yeah, I wasn't there that night, but it was all the talk, obviously.
And, yeah, I started 2007 in the belly room.
And just, you know, that was when, like, no one was coming to shows.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was empty there.
fortune feimster
They were, like, giving me, like, one 30...
joe rogan
That was the one thing that I felt bad about.
I felt like, damn, what if that shit place goes under?
You know, after I bolted.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And talked shit about them.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Because it hit them.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
It was like just a different time.
Like now every show's sold out.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
fortune feimster
Yeah, but back then it was like, I was like performing like four drunk dudes.
joe rogan
Well, 2014 is when it all turned back around.
fortune feimster
What did make it turn back around?
Just like all you guys coming back and doing sets all the time?
joe rogan
For sure.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then talking about it.
I think podcasts helped.
When I started back again, it was pretty good.
It wasn't as good as it is now.
Now it's amazing.
fortune feimster
Now it's great.
joe rogan
It's insane how it is now.
But creatively, it was really good back then.
I saw Roast Battle for the first time.
And I remember being there and going, wow, these people are fucking creative.
This is a fun show.
And I came back because, well, first of all, because Adam Egan and because Tommy got fired, the dipshit that was running it, but also because Ari was doing his comedy special there.
fortune feimster
Right, right.
joe rogan
And I love Art of Death.
There was no way I was going to miss that.
I was like, I can't miss it.
He's one of my best friends.
I was friends with him when he was a doorman at the store.
Now here he is doing his Comedy Central special there.
I'm like, I have to come back.
And so I went there the night before, which was a Tuesday.
He was filming on a Wednesday.
I came to the night before and I saw Roast Battle and then hung out.
I was like, holy shit.
I was like, this just feels crazy.
It feels like a different place.
fortune feimster
Like a whole different energy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And Adam was like, come on, man, come back.
fortune feimster
That was 2014?
Man, that was a long time.
joe rogan
A long time ago.
Yeah.
fortune feimster
I mean, between the...
joe rogan
Seven years I was gone.
Yeah, I was gone for seven years.
Yeah.
And then I saw Ari's set, and then I sat down with Pauly, made nice nights with Pauly, became buddies again.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then I said, fuck it, I'm back.
And then when I came back, Joey came back I think a little bit before me.
I think Joey was back like maybe a month before I was, which helped me as well.
And then Duncan came back a little bit after that.
And then Adam, because everybody loves Adam, he opened the door to a bunch of comics that never worked the store before.
They thought it was like...
They thought it was dark.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of people thought it was like a gross place.
fortune feimster
What a weird energy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
There was, like, you would walk down the hall and you could feel that sort of heaviness.
And you're like, this is a comedy place.
Like, this is weird that it feels so heavy.
joe rogan
Well, that place has gone through weird peaks and valleys.
When I went there in 94, I first came here from Boston, or from New York, actually.
I went to Boston, New York.
But when I was in Boston, it was Mecca.
We would talk about it like, dude, that's where Kinison came from.
fortune feimster
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Kinison was at the store.
Richard Pryor.
You know, Bill Hicks was a doorman.
I mean, we would talk about it with hushed tones.
fortune feimster
It was like the Mecca.
joe rogan
It was Mecca.
But then when I came here in 94, it was dog shit.
fortune feimster
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, it was terrible.
It was terrible.
There were a bunch of Bodaks.
See, what happened was, Kinnison died in like 92. And when he died, there was a vacuum.
There was a void.
And he had already left the store.
He left the store, I think, like a year or two before that.
He had a falling out with Mitzi.
And, you know, he was fucking crazy.
Kinnison was like legitimately crazy.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there was a wave when he was there where a bunch of people would come to see him and some of the other guys like you know Rick Duke come in and some you know there was Martin Lawrence was there and then well actually Martin Lawrence was there during the time during 94 when I was there yeah maybe like 95 or 96 but when I when I came back most of the nights you would be there like Monday Tuesday Wednesday it was like terrible half filled rooms yeah terrible acts People that should have quit comedy years ago, but they were only doing the store.
fortune feimster
They were getting spots, too.
joe rogan
They were getting spots, but they weren't working.
They weren't working comics.
fortune feimster
And they were working probably the same material.
That was happening a lot even when I started.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
They were working the same material forever.
For years and years and years.
And that was fucking gross.
It was weird to see.
I remember the first night I came there, I sat in the back of the room to watch a show.
I was out here for a pilot.
Me and Jim Brewer, we're out here filming a pilot.
We both lived on the East Coast.
And I was like, wow, this is the store?
This is weird.
These backs are terrible.
No one was good.
There was no one good.
It wasn't like Don Marrero was there.
I mean, I'm sure he was there occasionally, but it wasn't like it is tonight, where any night you go there, you'll see...
Ron White, Chris D'Elia, Nick Swartz, and Whitney Cummings, fucking Anthony Jesselnik.
It's like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
unidentified
Ali Wong, just killer after killer after killer after killer.
joe rogan
It's like, holy shit.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and it wasn't...
When I started, it wasn't...
Like, Tony was the door guy.
He was a door guy then.
Delia was just starting to do the OR. It was an interesting time.
Whitney was doing a lot of spots in OR. It was very cliquish.
Everybody kind of knew each other.
I just started in the belly room and worked my way down.
It was cool, though, because it made you better.
There was like...
I rarely did a show with more than 10 people in the audience.
At least downstairs.
joe rogan
Those late night spots are weird.
fortune feimster
Yeah, they're weird.
And they didn't care.
Tommy didn't care if people were on TV. I remember Jordan Peele had just finished Mad TV. He, they put him up on, it was like that Bringer, not Bringer show, it was an open mic.
They let him do like three minutes on this open mic.
And he wasn't what he is now as far as like he had this huge hit movie.
Now he's this massive director.
But he would have been on MADtv for seven years.
He went like three and a half minutes.
Tommy comes storming out.
unidentified
Get the fuck off the station!
fortune feimster
You're like, what's happening?
It was like the wild, wild west.
And so I just kind of kept to myself and just kept doing jokes.
joe rogan
Well, Tommy should have never been in a position ever to tell anyone what to do.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they let him do that because he was basically Mitzi's caretaker.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
You know, along the way, he alienated a lot of people.
It became a real mess for a lot of people.
fortune feimster
But I had, you know, I was lucky because early on, like, guys started seeing me perform in the belly room and they were the ones, because, you know, it was hard to get his ear.
You had to, like, get his ear to, like, let you showcase.
But, like, I remember Brett Ernst saw me at a show and he's like, you gotta, you gotta showcase.
I was like, I can't get...
Tommy's attention, you know?
So it was like dudes would like, you know, he would see Tommy and be like, you gotta let her showcase, you gotta let her showcase.
joe rogan
I always wondered if maybe he was like Jack Nicholson in The Shining, like in the Overlook Hotel.
Maybe the place like took over him.
fortune feimster
It might have.
joe rogan
Like maybe he was just vulnerable and dumb enough so that the ghost could get in his head.
Because that place is definitely weird.
But it's real positive now.
It's a different feel.
fortune feimster
That darkness isn't there anymore.
It's very supportive.
I showcased Ramitzi.
I did the video though.
She wasn't there.
She had just passed Justin Martindale.
unidentified
Justin Martindale was the last person she passed.
fortune feimster
She passed me as a non-paid regular first.
joe rogan
Me too.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
So I got to do the belly room on Friday nights.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
fortune feimster
And then I was a non-paid regular for like six months and then I got past it.
joe rogan
Yeah, my story was real similar.
I was a non-paid regular for like I think four or five months.
I was going on every night, late, late, late at night or going on after the show was over.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
And I get it.
I got past three years in the stand-up, so I wasn't complaining.
But she was like, she needs to keep working.
I'm not going to make her a paid regular yet.
So it made me have to work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Work for it, which I appreciate now.
joe rogan
Well, also, it's like you get used to the club.
You get used to just being there.
Like, to me, just being there was so weird.
But I was six years in a comedy when I came to L.A. Yeah.
And I remember the day I became a paid regular.
It was like, I couldn't sleep.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I was like, holy shit.
I was staying in the Oakwood Gardens apartments.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
These furnished apartments.
fortune feimster
Oh, the furnished ones, yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
fortune feimster
I remember by Disney.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And I was laying in bed going, holy fuck, I'm a paid regular at the store.
Like, I'm a real comedian now.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's all I could think of.
I was like, I'm a real comedian.
Like, I'm a professional.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I mean, it's a big deal.
joe rogan
Oh my god, for me it was huge.
fortune feimster
And it was like, because I started an improv and sketch at the Groundlings.
joe rogan
Oh, did you?
fortune feimster
Yeah, so I had like, even though I was newer to stand-up, I had that stage experience for a couple years before I started stand-up, which I felt helped me just get in the rhythm of stand-up right away.
And so I just kind of hit the ground running and...
You know, to me, one of my biggest accomplishments is being a paid regular and that I got it before I was on TV. Because sometimes, you know, I feel like that does help when you're like on TV. They're like, oh, they're, well, they're funny.
They're on TV and they sometimes get passed.
And so it made me feel like a real comic to get passed and not have any TV credits.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I'm sure.
I mean, having any kind of performance experience is going to at least give you this comfortable feeling of performing and talking in front of people.
For some people, it's so weird.
Talking in front of people is just...
They say that's one of the most terrifying things that some people can do.
fortune feimster
Yeah, like before death.
People were afraid.
I'm like, really?
I'd rather...
joe rogan
You'd rather do a set in the belly row.
fortune feimster
Yeah, just get a mic.
Do you really want to be that scared of it?
joe rogan
When did you start doing The Road?
fortune feimster
Pretty quick.
2010, I did Last Comic Standing.
joe rogan
Oh.
Who was on that season?
fortune feimster
That was Felipe, as far as the one that year.
unidentified
Oh, Felipe!
fortune feimster
Tommy Johnigan.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
I love Felipe.
fortune feimster
Yeah, Nikki Glaser.
joe rogan
Oh, she was on, too?
fortune feimster
She was on that season, yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, that's a good season.
fortune feimster
It's a good season, and it had gone away and come back, so it was kind of an experience.
Who was the host?
Craig Robinson.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and so I did that, and I started The Road after that, but like shit gigs, you know?
joe rogan
I forgot Craig was the host of it.
I just remember when Jay was the host of it.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
It had been on, and it was more of a reality show with stand-up, and when they brought it back, it was just stand-up.
No one was living in a house together.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
fortune feimster
Yeah, there were no challenges.
It was just stand-up.
unidentified
Oh, thank God.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You got lucky.
fortune feimster
Yeah, for sure, because I was like, I don't want to live in a house with a bunch of stand-ups.
unidentified
Oh, God.
fortune feimster
So, we just got to do stand-up, and then I started touring after that, and then...
2011, I got Chelsea Lately, and then I started...
Basically, I've been touring ever since.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
That's amazing.
That's a good little origin story.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Well, Bill Burr used to...
He's always been so nice to me, and he'd always be like...
Why are you never at the store?
I'm like, I'm touring.
I promise you I'm doing stand-up.
I just started touring and wasn't going in as much for a little bit.
joe rogan
That's great, though.
fortune feimster
But he's always like, you need to stop acting and just do stand-up.
I'm like, I get it, but I do like acting.
joe rogan
When he says that, it's a compliment.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
He just thinks you're really funny.
That's high praise.
fortune feimster
Yeah, he's always been so good to me.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
fortune feimster
He's a really good guy.
joe rogan
The best.
fortune feimster
I just didn't think that he would be into my comedy, you know?
joe rogan
He loves comedy, period.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he loves the art form, and he respects people that work hard at it and that are good at it.
He's so down to earth, like still.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And no matter all the success that he's had, I've known him forever.
He's never changed.
fortune feimster
Ugh.
He's the same guy.
I love him.
joe rogan
And he's so humble.
Like, if you tell him that he's doing well, it's like, ah, a lot of people are doing well.
fortune feimster
Yeah, he's in shits on himself.
We're like, come on, man.
joe rogan
But that's why he's so funny.
I mean, this is also a unique time in that comics are putting out all these specials, and the specials are better with each time.
Like, I think Paper Tiger was one of his best specials ever.
Maybe his best.
It was really sharp.
fortune feimster
And it's hard to top yourself at his level, you know?
joe rogan
It is.
But that's the thing about the store that's so wonderful.
I hate to use that word because it makes me sound fake.
fortune feimster
Wonderful.
joe rogan
Wonderful.
It's so amazing that there's so many people doing that.
And it's cool to be able to sit down and talk to the different people that are doing it in different ways.
Bill doesn't put himself on any kind of a cycle.
He just decides when it's time to do a special.
I don't want to ruin it.
Whenever I want to do it, then I'll do a special.
But Jeselnik puts himself on a cycle.
And it's an interesting cycle.
fortune feimster
Oh, does he?
joe rogan
One year, all town.
All in town.
Crafting the material.
One year, clubs.
One year, theaters.
Film a special.
fortune feimster
I did not know that.
joe rogan
Jeselnik is one of the hardest workers and one of the most clever writers in the business.
fortune feimster
Yeah, he's very sharp.
joe rogan
Very clever.
And his jokes are one of those jokes where you hear it and you go...
This is like a pause.
You're like, God, that's a good point.
fortune feimster
Well, because you don't see it coming, too, which is a real talent.
joe rogan
Yes.
fortune feimster
And he goes dark.
Oh, it gets dark.
There's only so many people that can get away with that.
joe rogan
Oh, he can get away with it.
fortune feimster
Where you're like, whew, you did that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's confident.
It's also just so well done.
It's like if you're going to drive fast, you better be really good at driving.
You know what I mean?
If you're going to do dark comedy, you better be really good at crafting jokes.
fortune feimster
And you've got to go all in.
You can't just dip a toe in it.
unidentified
He's fucking cliff diving.
fortune feimster
He makes me laugh, though.
There was a LA Times, I don't know what it was, they were interviewing Sebastian Maniscalco, and they came to the store to interview him, and they said that Jeselnik came in the room where he was being interviewed and just sat and stared at him to purposefully Make him uncomfortable.
I thought that was so funny.
joe rogan
That sounds like Jessel Neck.
fortune feimster
And then he finally got to Sebastian and was like, okay, can you get out of here?
joe rogan
He's another guy who Sebastian is.
It's hugely successful, but really humble.
Never changed at all.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just happy and grateful.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Well, that's the cool thing about comedy right now.
I mean, you've seen so many different iterations of it, but dudes are selling out arenas.
I mean, you too.
Comedy is as big as rock guys, you know?
It used to be the opposite.
It was always the rock guys were here and the comics wanted to be them, and now all these guys are like...
Killing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, the difference is the rock guys have a fucking band and they have to get along with the band.
I bring different opening acts all the time.
I don't want anybody to get annoying.
I mix it up.
And we don't have to bring shit with us.
We don't have to bring drums.
fortune feimster
Isn't that the beauty of it?
unidentified
I'm going to plug in an amp and hear the feedback.
fortune feimster
You don't do a tour bus, right?
joe rogan
No.
What am I, Burt Kreischer?
That fucking dipshit.
He's got his name on the side of it.
I love him to death.
He's one of my best friends.
But what the fuck, Burt?
fortune feimster
I love Burt.
But that is...
joe rogan
What the fuck?
His big picture of his face all over his bus?
unidentified
It's me!
fortune feimster
It's me!
He and Joe Coy always mess with each other.
Joe's all showing his plane and Bert's showing his tour bus.
joe rogan
Does Joe Coy have a plane with his face on it?
fortune feimster
Not with his face on it.
They're showing off their loads of transportation.
And I'm all like, I hope I get upgraded on American this weekend.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that bus.
fortune feimster
Get the fuck out of here.
Look at those beautiful boobs.
joe rogan
Body Shot World Tour.
Look, he's got his fucking podcast.
That's just, you're just begging to get stalked.
fortune feimster
Yeah, but I mean, that is, it is a walk.
joe rogan
That's what he wants though.
fortune feimster
It's a roll-in advertisement.
joe rogan
I mean, I guess.
It's also annoying.
All of us, all of his friends are like, what are you doing, man?
fortune feimster
But he's been that guy forever where he's just like, hey, I'm going to a bar after the show.
Let's go.
Like, I don't think he cares.
joe rogan
He's drunk!
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why would he care?
He's drunk.
fortune feimster
And in college, he was like the dude, the party guy.
joe rogan
He was the inspiration for that movie with Ryan Reynolds.
fortune feimster
Van Wilder.
joe rogan
Van Wilder.
He was the inspiration.
unidentified
I know.
fortune feimster
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Isn't that fucking nuts?
fortune feimster
So a guy like I love him to death, he would have a bus with his face on it.
joe rogan
Of course he would.
Of course he would.
He's so silly.
fortune feimster
It works.
joe rogan
It's also, he's so grateful because he had this Travel Channel show.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And all of us, Bert was out there traveling and he's doing these shows and he's gone for months and months at a time.
And all of us, like Bill talked to him about it, I talked to him about it.
I remember I called him once and he was drunk on a motorcycle in Vietnam.
fortune feimster
Yeah, he told me that story.
He said you were a big reason why he was like, I gotta stop doing this and get back to stand-up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm like, dude, you're a great comic.
You're a funny guy, and that'll go away.
And you'll be at the beck and call of these people on the Travel Channel who want to censor you.
I mean, everything has to be squeaky clean down the middle.
I was friends with Bourdain, and he had real problems with the Travel Channel.
At the time, I think they were owned by very religious people.
fortune feimster
Oh, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was a lot of weird shit.
fortune feimster
So he couldn't talk about things?
joe rogan
No.
Bert's a fucking savage.
He's a drunk savage.
And he's out there...
I mean, he enjoyed being employed on television.
It was all good.
It wasn't a bad thing.
It was a great job.
I'm sure he loved the job.
But I equated it...
I had experience doing Fear Factor.
So for me, it was kind of the same thing.
But at least Fear Factor was in town.
And I could do the store at night, but I was telling him, I'm like, listen, man, you won't be happy unless you have a career as a standup.
You're always going to wonder.
You're always going to see these guys, but you're going to drive by the improv, see these guys headlining.
It could be me.
I could be up there having a great time.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and look at the level he's at now.
That wouldn't have happened.
He's crushing it.
Yeah, he's crushing it.
joe rogan
He's selling out fucking theaters everywhere.
Everywhere.
Yeah, I mean, it's a direct result of him deciding to take that chance, and that's a hard chance to take when you have a family.
fortune feimster
I'll tell you, that's one of the hardest things in this business is betting on yourself.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Because it's so hard to get stability in this business.
So when you get a taste of it, you're like, oh, I can't.
I don't want to mess this up.
unidentified
Yes.
fortune feimster
But you don't realize that the risk is greater.
You might fail, but the risk is if it works, it works like five times.
The reward is way greater.
Yes, exactly.
But that's a hard leap for a lot of people to take.
joe rogan
It is.
It's one of the reasons why I have so many jobs.
I don't want anybody to have any power over me.
I have a good philosophy on how I do my thing.
I just want to do my best and have fun.
And the more people that are in your ear talking to you about stuff and telling you what to do and what not to do and what you can get away with and not get away with, the more you're fucked.
fortune feimster
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like you're never going to find your best voice.
You're just not going to.
fortune feimster
Because you're not being you at the end of the day.
joe rogan
You're compromising yourself for some company or you're compromising yourself because you want to get hired for the next job after this job is over.
But when you don't have a job and you're just an artist, then you just get to create the best comedy you can create.
And the podcast thing just sort of became like a support.
It started off just for fun.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then it became like a support mechanism, and then it became this, what it is now, which is just bizarre.
fortune feimster
Which, how long ago was it that it started?
joe rogan
Ten years.
fortune feimster
Ten years, yeah.
So it was like at the forefront of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I started after I got booted from the store.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I started two years later.
fortune feimster
You're like, find your own outlet.
joe rogan
Well, it was that.
I was also depressed.
I'd just come back from Colorado.
I was trying to move to Colorado.
But then my wife got pregnant when we were in the mountains.
And we got a house in the mountains, like 8,500 feet above sea level.
Like way up there.
fortune feimster
Like to live?
joe rogan
I wanted to live up there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was tired of like...
For me it was like big crowds.
Like all these big crowds.
And what would be like the perfect antidote to big crowds?
No one.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Just peace.
So that was like...
When a woman gets pregnant at very high altitude, it's actually kind of dangerous.
fortune feimster
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Especially if you're not acclimated.
Denver, which is only 5,500 feet, has a very high number of premature births.
fortune feimster
Oh, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah, because of that.
Because of the altitude.
There's no fucking air up there.
People are not supposed to live up there, probably.
fortune feimster
Babies need oxygen.
joe rogan
So we moved back, and when we moved back, I was like, all right.
I was like, I gotta do something different.
And so me and Redband started doing just with a laptop answering questions.
Just like doing a live stream and answering questions to knuckleheads.
Like 200 people.
fortune feimster
That's how it started.
You put it up on your own website?
joe rogan
Put it up on Ustream at first.
And then after a few months we decided to start uploading it to iTunes as an audio version of it.
And then it became what it is now.
fortune feimster
That's awesome.
joe rogan
It's very strange.
But that also helps me to not have a job.
I don't have to think.
fortune feimster
Well, now you are not making decisions out of fear.
joe rogan
Exactly.
fortune feimster
And that's where people really get bit in the ass.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
fortune feimster
Everyone's making decisions out of fear.
joe rogan
But it's hard.
It's hard to take that fucking leap, you know?
It's hard.
It's dangerous.
It's a dangerous leap to bet on yourself.
fortune feimster
Absolutely, yeah.
joe rogan
When did you first realize fully you're making a living doing stand-up?
When did you go like, I don't need anything else?
fortune feimster
Um...
I mean, like I said, I started touring in 2010, but it was like, you know, small clubs and...
joe rogan
Were you middling?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
No, I never middling.
I went straight from the store to headlining.
joe rogan
Really?
fortune feimster
Yeah, it was a weird journey.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
fortune feimster
I wish I had middled.
joe rogan
How the fuck did you do that?
fortune feimster
Last Comic Standing and Chelsea, they came back to back.
joe rogan
Wow.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and so, because I had been at the store for three years just honing my material and I was doing sets all the time.
I was doing shows constantly around town.
joe rogan
Last Comic Standing launched a lot of people, right?
Eliza?
Yeah.
Who else?
Felipe?
You?
Was it Alonzo?
Did Alonzo get launched from last time, Stanley?
He's done so many things, though.
fortune feimster
Him and Kathleen Madigan, they did it early on.
joe rogan
Ralphie, for sure.
fortune feimster
Ralphie, yeah, and Gary Goldman.
It was early on.
joe rogan
But Gary Goldman was on that fucking Dane Cook thing.
That weird HBO thing that they did together.
fortune feimster
I forgot about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody did.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and so I wish I had middled, because I would have like, still to this day, I'm like, God, I'm so curious how other people do their shows, you know?
But I just sort of went from zero to 60, like, doing the story for three years.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
fortune feimster
To, like, headlining.
How much time did you have?
Oh my god, probably 30 minutes.
joe rogan
And you're headlining?
fortune feimster
I was headlining, but because of my improv background with Groundlings, I did a lot of crowd work.
joe rogan
Oh, well that's good for you for taking that chance.
fortune feimster
I was able to kind of trick people.
joe rogan
So you were three years into your act and you were headlining on the road, off of television.
fortune feimster
Off of TV, yeah.
unidentified
Crazy.
fortune feimster
But, you know, I packed a lot into the first three years.
Because, you know, a lot of people, you're just trying to find stage time.
But somehow I got lucky.
I was getting tons of stage time.
So for three years, I was doing like six nights, seven nights a week of multiple shows.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
fortune feimster
So I was getting material quickly, I think.
unidentified
A lot of reps.
Yeah.
fortune feimster
A lot of reps, yeah.
I did the show for Adam Barnhart for a year every Sunday night.
He would give me 10 minutes in brand new comic.
You know, that's huge when you're a brand new comic.
So I was building material quickly.
But like for as far as like a good set, it was like 30 minutes.
But then I would do the crowd work and I would sprinkle it in.
And so it would...
You know, turn out to be a decent 45-minute show.
And then I just kept doing that.
And then I was on Chelsea for four years.
I left Chelsea to do acting.
And then stand-up took a little bit of a dip.
But then I did my half hour for Netflix.
It came back up again.
And I was doing well at clubs the last couple years.
And then my Netflix special, Sweet and Salty, just came out.
And this is my first theater tour and it's been selling well.
So now I feel, I get to answer your question right now.
joe rogan
Right now, 13 years in.
fortune feimster
13 years in.
Because in stand-up, 13 years is like nothing.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Listen, 13 years to get into a theater tour at 13 years is amazing.
fortune feimster
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's great.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
I don't know.
My timeline's so all over the place that I don't know.
joe rogan
That's really good.
Thirteen years I wasn't doing a theater tour.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
So this is my first one.
And, you know, that's the nice thing about the Netflix reach, you know.
joe rogan
Does anybody come up to you and go, I love Sirius.
fortune feimster
Sometimes, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think, though?
Netflix is like 90% of the reach.
fortune feimster
For the theater tour?
unidentified
Yes.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
The special?
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
I mean, I've done a lot of acting the last few years.
I did the Mindy Project for three seasons and some other things, a bunch of guest stars, some movies.
joe rogan
What kind of contract do you guys have for doing that serious thing?
fortune feimster
I think we signed a year contract, and then it's kind of like we'll see it a year if everyone's happy.
I think that's what it is.
joe rogan
Let's talk after the show.
fortune feimster
Okay.
joe rogan
I have some suggestions.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
And then the special, as far as stand-up, I mean, I feel like a lot of people, because they knew me from acting, didn't know I was a stand-up.
But stand-up's always been so important to me, and I was always on the road.
Even when I was acting, I was constantly headlining.
And I ran into Bill like a year ago on the road and he was like, what are you doing?
I'm like, I've been headlining.
He goes, you're headlining?
I go, yes.
People don't know I've been headlining since 2010. I just don't talk about it.
I just do my shows.
And now that I had my special come out, it's really great.
It's like I'm doing these cool theaters.
We're adding two shows most nights.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
fortune feimster
It's awesome.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
fortune feimster
People are really lovely.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
Congratulations.
unidentified
Thank you.
fortune feimster
That's really cool.
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
That's fucking awesome.
fortune feimster
It's different.
Like I said, it's a lot of storytelling.
joe rogan
Now, what do you do in terms of now that your special's out and then you're going to tour again?
How much new material?
fortune feimster
I have about 40 minutes of new material.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
fortune feimster
I'm still working.
joe rogan
When does your tour start?
fortune feimster
Saturday.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
fortune feimster
Grand Rapids.
joe rogan
So are you going to throw some of the old bits in there?
unidentified
Mix it up?
fortune feimster
I'll do a few classics.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got it.
Some people like that shit.
fortune feimster
Nate Briazzi was like, you should do your new stuff, do as far as you can, and then throw in some classics, because people enjoy that.
They want new stuff, but then they like certain bits, and why not?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, fans.
There's some people that...
Gaffigan has to do his fucking Hot Pockets bit, or people blow a gasket.
There's certain people that...
Sebastian does a lot of his classic bits when he does The Road.
He does a lot of that.
fortune feimster
Yeah, so it's, you know, the challenge, as you know, is like, oh crap, now I gotta, like, what's my story that I want to tell next?
What I want to say?
So that's what I'm working on now.
joe rogan
Well, that's, I mean, that's the beautiful thing about being a writer, right?
Do you smoke weed?
fortune feimster
Here and there.
It's not like a regular occurrence.
unidentified
Maybe you should make it regular.
fortune feimster
I will say that I did this weed dinner with Chelsea where we ate like a five course meal that was all cooked with weed.
joe rogan
Oh great.
fortune feimster
And I, because I love food, ate every course and like cleaned the plate.
I was like high as a kite.
But I have never been funnier.
And I'm like, why don't I do this more often?
joe rogan
Did they give you transportation?
fortune feimster
Yeah, they did.
joe rogan
Good move.
fortune feimster
Oh, I couldn't have.
I could barely walk by the end of the night.
joe rogan
Some people go into a fucking K-hole if you give them that much weed.
fortune feimster
Oh, it was a lot.
I think I had like four joints.
joe rogan
Wow.
fortune feimster
It was a lot.
Like, I was high until noon the next day.
But people to this day are like, that wee dinner was the funniest thing I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Well, if everybody's high like that, yeah.
As long as you're in a good place.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I was in a good place.
And then at the very end of the night, it was all fog.
I Nothing.
I remember sort of getting into the car.
I don't remember any of the drive.
And then opening the door to my house and then blank again.
It was too much.
joe rogan
You made it home.
fortune feimster
I do remember thinking in my head, like, don't text anyone.
Don't, because you don't know, or don't tweet.
You don't know what you're going to say right now.
So I just made myself pass out.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
That's perfect.
You slid right into home plate.
fortune feimster
Yeah, I made it.
joe rogan
You made it perfect.
fortune feimster
I nailed the landing.
joe rogan
There's not too much.
That's the exact right amount.
You actually came in perfect.
fortune feimster
But I think...
Yeah, because it did sort of open something in my head that let the silliness just run.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
fortune feimster
So I should do a little bit, you know, before I write.
joe rogan
Start right now.
Want some right now?
fortune feimster
Sure.
Hey, kids.
joe rogan
Don't try this at home.
fortune feimster
I'm going to have to go home and write.
The new tour is starting.
joe rogan
Yeah, I learned how to...
fortune feimster
I don't even know.
I will tell you this.
Because you were talking about Elon.
You're not even sure if he inhaled.
Because I normally just do a little edibles.
I don't even know if I know how to smoke it right.
I'm like the lamest person.
joe rogan
Oh, hush.
No, you're not.
Just take a little bit of that.
That's a blunt.
Tobacco on the outside, weed on the inside.
Shout out to Speedweed.
fortune feimster
I don't even know if I know how to inhale right.
joe rogan
Let me figure it out.
fortune feimster
I'm like Bill Clinton.
joe rogan
Well, this isn't like Bill Clinton.
This isn't rocket science.
fortune feimster
I think...
joe rogan
You good?
Blow it out?
Did you blow it out?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let me see.
There's nothing in there.
Did it go in?
Seems like it did.
fortune feimster
I think it went in.
joe rogan
Let's hold on to that.
fortune feimster
You're like, don't do anymore.
joe rogan
Let's see how that works.
fortune feimster
I like gulped that.
joe rogan
I was talking to Chappelle Lacey.
You know Chappelle?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
The dude who's like an unbelievable athlete.
He was a cheerleading champion.
fortune feimster
Oh really?
joe rogan
Like level six world champion and cheerleader and he's built like a tank.
fortune feimster
I don't know him.
joe rogan
He's really funny, but he's funny.
He's never smoked weed.
He's like, I think maybe I want to try it.
I was like, listen, if you try it, try it with a friend and try a tiny bit.
Try it with a friend who smokes weed.
I just want you to go like this.
fortune feimster
A little puff.
joe rogan
That's it.
Hold on to it.
That's it.
Don't go crazy.
Because I don't want you to have a bad experience.
fortune feimster
You're supposed to hold it in your mouth?
joe rogan
I mean, inhale it.
It goes all the way in your lungs.
fortune feimster
I'm pretty sure it's in my lungs.
joe rogan
I think so.
Do you feel any different?
Do you feel any different?
fortune feimster
Not yet.
joe rogan
I do.
fortune feimster
You do?
Immediately?
joe rogan
Immediately, yeah.
It felt like, woo, elevated.
Nothing?
fortune feimster
No, but it definitely went down my throat.
joe rogan
But did it go all the way in like this?
And then all the way out?
fortune feimster
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't think it did.
You don't need it.
You don't need it.
You're good.
fortune feimster
I'm high on life.
joe rogan
I don't want you to freak out.
Some people freak out.
fortune feimster
I won't freak out.
joe rogan
We've had people freak out.
Who's the biggest freak out we've ever had in here?
Hi.
We've had a few.
fortune feimster
Like where they just start acting way different?
joe rogan
Sturgill Simpson told me.
I love Sturgill Simpson.
Yeah, he lives outside of Nashville.
That weed they have is, I don't know, it's that good.
The weed he was getting.
fortune feimster
The stuff out here is like beyond, beyond, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, so we got barbecued before the podcast because I know he loves weed.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he goes, dude, that podcast started.
I didn't know where the fuck I was.
I didn't know what you were saying.
fortune feimster
You probably didn't remember anything.
joe rogan
I was sitting there like locked in.
And then all of a sudden, it's live too.
That was the other thing.
Back then we did it live.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which freaked a lot of people out.
Just the live aspect of it.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because they weren't sure what they would say.
joe rogan
There was like a tension to it.
There was a tension to the fact that all these eyeballs were on you right now, currently.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
For some strange reason.
fortune feimster
Could you tell that he was like...
joe rogan
No, I was high as fuck too.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not immune to it.
The only person that ever gets me scared is Joey.
fortune feimster
Oh, because he just...
joe rogan
He goes so deep.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
He goes so deep it doesn't even make sense.
He'll throw down four stars of death.
Those are 250 milligrams.
And he does it in front of you and he's laughing.
fortune feimster
Ha ha!
That's crazy.
joe rogan
I'm here to see the devil, Joe Rogan.
He's always trying to see the devil.
fortune feimster
He gave me some pills to give to my lady.
joe rogan
Oh my god, the pills are dangerous.
fortune feimster
But I was like...
joe rogan
Don't give her the pills.
fortune feimster
I said, I don't know if you should take these.
joe rogan
No, he gave one to Tom Segura.
Tom Segura has a bit about it.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't want to give away the bit.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Oh, it's in the new special?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It's a new one that he's working on.
Yeah, gotcha, gotcha.
This is a recent occurrence.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That Joey dosed him.
fortune feimster
I did Joey's podcast a while ago.
joe rogan
He tried to get you?
fortune feimster
He tried to get me.
I was like, I don't know about this.
joe rogan
Oh, he's fucked some people's lives up.
fortune feimster
For real?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Legitimately.
fortune feimster
Because they go so...
joe rogan
Look, this is something...
I had a guy on the podcast...
Alex Berenstain?
Berenstain.
He wrote a book and I had him on with a doctor who was a cannabis enthusiast.
This guy, Dr. Mike Hart from Canada.
And one of the things that they talked about is How marijuana, to some people, can potentially induce schizophrenia.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's for real?
joe rogan
For real.
Yeah, I think it's for real.
fortune feimster
So you think that happened to some of the people, Joey?
joe rogan
You'd have to ask Joey.
fortune feimster
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
I'll tell you off air.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
For sure I think it can do that.
And for sure I think I know people that have done that and have lost their fucking minds.
fortune feimster
Dang.
joe rogan
Because it's an alteration of reality.
fortune feimster
But is it that star death stuff you're talking about?
joe rogan
Yes.
Those and the chibichus that are even more strong.
Chibichus that are 500 milligrams.
fortune feimster
Savages.
joe rogan
I don't think it's legal anymore.
I think once they went full legal, is that the case, Jamie?
It's like 10 milligrams each now?
jamie vernon
I think it's like 100 milligram per thing.
joe rogan
So if you get gummy bears, you'll have 10 that are 10 milligrams, and that's 100. So you'd have to take two and a half bottles to equal one of the old ones.
First of all, I had a whole bit about this.
They're not making these things in a lab right next door to a place where they're making microchips.
There's some dude.
Some dude is cooking this shit up in some bullshit commercial kitchen that he got his friends to chip in money for.
Who knows who's making these things?
I'm sure a lot of them are being made by giant businesses now.
It's a legit thing now.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But back in the day, especially, like right now I can't really speak of it.
I'm ignorant.
I'm just joking around.
But back in the day when you would first get edibles, you had no idea.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm sure there's some testing methods.
I'm just fucking around.
If you're a grower, you're like, bro, let me educate you.
I'm sure.
But back in the day.
jamie vernon
The only ones that ever worked on me, I would just fall asleep.
I found out it was like a grandma making them in her house because she liked them.
And then she would sell her leftovers to this one particular dispensary.
But then they went away.
I could never get them again.
fortune feimster
I would trust the grandma.
joe rogan
It's the edibles.
fortune feimster
But the Star of Death one, it's $2.50?
Is that what you said?
joe rogan
Yes, that's an insane amount.
fortune feimster
A thousand?
joe rogan
No.
Joey takes four of them.
Oh, easy.
unidentified
Easy.
joe rogan
He can do a thousand.
fortune feimster
Dang.
joe rogan
He can do two thousand.
fortune feimster
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Joey can just eat it.
It freaks him out and then he throws two more down.
unidentified
I'm not kidding.
fortune feimster
Does he do it on a regular basis?
joe rogan
Yes, we landed somewhere.
He's like, I almost had a fucking panic attack.
I was like, oh my god, I was so high.
He goes, I'm taking two more, fuck it.
He throws two more down and goes out.
fortune feimster
He was so pumped about those pills that he gave me.
I was like, you're just wasting it on me.
I don't know.
I can't do this.
joe rogan
He's my favorite person.
I just don't know anybody like him.
fortune feimster
I love Josh Wolf's old stories about them coming up together in Seattle, I think.
joe rogan
He's just a genuine human.
So funny.
fortune feimster
I like him a lot.
joe rogan
The thing is this Berenson guy, Alex Berenson, who wrote this book, had a really good point.
Is that we think it's fine because it's fine for you.
But that doesn't seem to be the case for everybody.
fortune feimster
Everybody has a different point they can go to.
joe rogan
I think people have different brain chemistry, right?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I think that's one of the reasons why some people have...
Depression run in their family, and we could all say, oh, hey, you just gotta suck it up.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's true.
fortune feimster
Because we're built in a way where we can suck it up.
joe rogan
That's true, but also it's like, I don't know how your brain is working.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
It's just guesswork, right?
There's no thing, like, I could take your temperature, right?
And if your temperature is like 96, whatever the fuck it is, it's hot.
fortune feimster
What's hot?
joe rogan
What is it normally?
98.5 is normal, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, so 99.5 and 100 is higher.
We start getting pretty warm.
joe rogan
That's weird.
How come the float tank, they want it to be 94?
94 is like the sweet spot.
They say that's the surface of your skin?
jamie vernon
Yeah, as I say, your internal temperature is 98.6, but when you get to the outside, it's not probably the exact same.
I don't know.
I'm not a doctor.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not a doctor either.
But my point is you can measure that.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
But you can't measure how a person feels.
fortune feimster
No.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
It's like, so we could assume, oh, they just got to get their shit together.
But it could be a thing like a thyroid issue.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Or it could be a thing like a, like some people are born with bad vision, right?
Why wouldn't we assume that that would be the case with mood too?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
With mood.
It's gotta be.
Some people are born having less happiness.
There's less of a feeling of joy, maybe an overwhelming sense of gloom just genetically.
fortune feimster
We all know people who've just always been kind of down.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Now if you give certain people like that some medication, it can help them.
fortune feimster
It's a leveling thing, right?
It levels certain things out.
joe rogan
I mean, it's not an exact science, right?
They're always trying to find things that work for you.
But they can help you.
Like, if people are in a situation where—I know people that have been, like, really suicidal, and they got on some stuff, and it helped them a lot, and then they slowly weaned themselves off of it after they had improved their lives, and they found they didn't need it anymore.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because it dulls other things.
Some of that stuff, you know?
joe rogan
Yes.
It's tricky.
You're messing with brain chemistry.
Hopefully it works.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
But the goal is to get you feeling better than you feel.
Right?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I feel like since some people need that and some people don't, it just makes sense that some people would interact with...
Everything differently than you would.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Whether it's alcohol or drugs or cocaine or amphetamines.
There's some people that get a taste of amphetamines and they can't get enough.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then other people don't want to have nothing to do with that shit.
They're like, get that crazy fucking sauce away from me.
I don't want to be running around like a maniac.
fortune feimster
I barely take like an Advil.
joe rogan
That stuff.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
But I wonder what it is about weed that can open some other portal to, like you said, the schizophrenia thing for some people.
joe rogan
Again, obviously I'm an idiot and I don't know anything about what I'm talking about, but I would imagine that what's going on is that some people have a tendency to lean towards mental illness anyway.
Maybe they're struggling a bit and then something comes along like a Big dose of edibles and it just knocks their already shaky cart off the trail.
They just can't do it.
It's just too much.
It's a blowout event that their brain wasn't ready for.
fortune feimster
Oh man.
joe rogan
That's what I think.
And I think there's a bunch of mitigating factors, right?
I would like to know when do these people experience these bouts of schizophrenia?
Is it directly related to stress?
Is it just something that genetically they're predisposed to?
Who knows?
But he was saying that it's possible, and we don't know what the numbers are, but some people might have real mental health episodes because of a high dose of weed.
fortune feimster
Oh, interesting.
joe rogan
Here's the real problem.
The problem is, because it's been illegal for so long, they haven't funded adequate testing, right?
And it wasn't even legal to test on, I mean, for a long time, right?
It's like the federal government has to approve whether or not you can test on shit that's Schedule 1. Like, if you wanted to do some studies, and you wanted to do some studies on cocaine, and what it's like when people use cocaine, what's the effect of cocaine?
fortune feimster
Right.
They're like, it's illegal.
Why would we want to get to the bottom of what it does to you?
joe rogan
The government would be like, what?
jamie vernon
Cocaine might not be Schedule 1, right?
joe rogan
You might be right, because it's getting medical.
Right.
So Schedule 1 is all the good stuff.
It's mushrooms.
fortune feimster
Schedule 1 is mushrooms.
unidentified
All the stuff that can get you to see God is Schedule 1. Hallucinogenic stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's right.
Is heroin Schedule 1?
It is.
That's interesting.
What about morphine?
Because morphine, don't they still use that shit in the hospital?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
That button is rude.
The fact they give you the ability to just juice yourself up.
fortune feimster
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
You can just hammer that thing.
fortune feimster
Because why would you stop?
unidentified
Why would you stop?
joe rogan
Especially if you could feel sorry for yourself if you're in surgery.
Oh, yeah.
fortune feimster
Well, nobody wants to sit there in pain.
joe rogan
No, fuck that.
Especially when you're just sitting there anyway.
Let's go for a ride.
Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
Let's put five quarters into this ride.
It's like, I can do that and go, okay, I don't want to do that ever again.
But some people can't.
And I don't think we should think of that as anything other than a chemical thing.
Seems like there's going to be behavioral things with people, right?
There's some people that are addicted to gambling, right?
It's not a chemical thing, but it still kind of is.
fortune feimster
It's a rush.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think all that behavioral shit, it all ties in together.
It's really interesting.
fortune feimster
Like a dopamine spurt.
joe rogan
Well, it's really interesting to think how other people's brains work.
Like we were talking about Elon Musk.
He's too smart.
He's too smart.
I can't imagine what it would be like looking through that guy's brain.
You know, his brain works different than mine.
fortune feimster
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Right?
There's different brains out there.
And some of them create wild art, right?
fortune feimster
Well, there's also the middle part.
The pistons have to shoot, you know...
joe rogan
You have pistons?
fortune feimster
You know what I mean.
They have to connect.
In the left brain and the right, there's the whole left brain, right brain thing, you know?
joe rogan
I've never looked into that.
fortune feimster
Where sometimes the wires are crossed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
So that's why some people are better at math.
Some people are better at writing.
You know, there's a different part of your brains affect those.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
I wonder if there's going to be a way to target those.
I bet there's going to be a way where they put something on your head, because the things they do for PTSD patients, they do this thing where they energize with magnets, some crazy magnetic thing in it.
It concentrates on a certain area of your brain where they feel you've been damaged.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And fighters and some people with injuries, CTE injuries from the war, they've gone to this.
It's near where the bases are down in San Diego.
Pretty close.
I think maybe within an hour of San Diego.
And they...
They use magnets to stimulate your brain.
I'm obviously butchering it, but somehow or another they're helping your brain heal itself.
When I hear something like that, I'm like, okay, what if you just juiced up the right side?
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
What if you just juice it every day?
Like, nothing's wrong with it.
fortune feimster
Like, I suck at writing.
joe rogan
Yeah, nothing's wrong with it, but I just want you to juice the fuck out of it.
fortune feimster
I'd like to be able to pass my math test today.
joe rogan
Imagine if they came up with a technology, if they came up with a technology that allows you to help your brain heal.
And I know this is stupid, and I know I'm not a biologist.
But if they came up with that and they can help use these super magnets or whatever it is, from the outside you're wearing like a helmet or something and it juices up your brain and helps your brain heal itself, why couldn't they make you smarter?
fortune feimster
I don't know why it stops.
joe rogan
Could you fucking imagine if they just started using, like really rich people just started wearing those helmets all day and just juicing their brain up all day and their brain just keep getting bigger and their heads start growing?
fortune feimster
Oh my god.
joe rogan
What if that is the future hot look, right?
fortune feimster
Future hot look.
joe rogan
The hot look used to be the bigger the person, like if a king wasn't fat, he wasn't attractive.
Kings wanted to look fat because that would mean you had all this wealth and all this prosperity.
And then people got skinny like, oh, this means you're fit.
This is the ideal.
Maybe one day the ideal is going to be a big old head.
fortune feimster
Big fat head.
joe rogan
Big old fucking alien head.
fortune feimster
You're so smart.
joe rogan
You're just juicing your brain up.
fortune feimster
I don't even know you could...
I don't know much about even repairing your brain.
You always heard that once you mess it up, it's messed up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they're learning...
I mean, there's for sure therapies that they're doing, but I think they're learning a bunch of different methods of how to help people heal from certain brain injuries.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And this was part of that.
It's...
I mean, it's really...
The brain is such a weird one, right?
That's how you interface with the whole world.
fortune feimster
Their whole body is like, you know, it affects everything.
joe rogan
It affects how you see things and think about things.
It's where you control all of your emotions.
fortune feimster
It's how you stand up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that's who you are.
The brain is a strange thing to fuck with.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you're like, you're juicing the pump station.
fortune feimster
That's why I'm like, if you ride a motorcycle, put a helmet on.
joe rogan
Yes.
fortune feimster
You know?
joe rogan
Please do.
jamie vernon
Have you ever seen the videos when they're doing brain operations and they like, I think they make the people like play a guitar.
fortune feimster
Oh yeah.
Yeah, there's a video of a girl playing the violin during surgery.
joe rogan
It's fucking amazing.
jamie vernon
I think you lose the ability, or they're afraid, maybe they're afraid they might lose that ability if they're not continuing to do it while that's going on.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, that's nuts.
fortune feimster
The best is when people wake up from brain surgery and they have this whole other skill.
There's stories of people suddenly being fluent in Spanish.
You're like, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've heard that.
fortune feimster
Or they can play instruments.
joe rogan
I've heard that.
fortune feimster
I mean, I don't know anybody like that, but I hear stories.
joe rogan
You know what's funny?
That is a really fascinating idea that someone could get a brain injury and come back with some new special skill or a language.
You would think I would have looked into that.
You would think I would have read about that.
I haven't looked into that shit once.
fortune feimster
Well, I was reading an article about Mary Stenbergen.
She's married to Ted Denton.
I don't know how to say her last name.
She had some sort of injuries.
She had surgery.
I don't know if it was brain or not.
It might have been brain something.
She came back and had suddenly the ability to write music.
And she wrote songs for a soundtrack of a movie that just came out.
And she never had that...
Oh, Stenburgen.
joe rogan
Her brain became...
fortune feimster
Yeah, it became musical.
joe rogan
Stenburgen's brain became musical after a strange complication from a routine surgery.
Wow.
All my thoughts became musical.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who discovered a new passion for songwriting?
Holy shit.
fortune feimster
Yeah, that stuff's trippy.
joe rogan
That's weird.
That's what I was saying earlier.
It's like everybody's brain is just different.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
We all want to hold people the way they think to a certain standard.
Everybody wants everybody else to think the way they do.
They want to enforce their ideas and thoughts.
We just have to come up with a better way of A better way of expressing that no one has any idea how you see the world.
The way we talk to each other, we assume that your version of the world is exactly the same as my version of the world.
fortune feimster
That we're coming from the same place.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, but not only are you coming from a different environment, but your brain...
joe rogan
Your brain's different.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
For sure.
Like, the way some people see the world.
They just see it different than you.
They're looking through a different window.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
unidentified
And you can tell when you're talking to those people.
joe rogan
We've got to be a little bit more...
I think we have to be a little bit more understanding of some people like that.
That's where all the weirdos, that's where the crazy ones come from.
fortune feimster
That's why they say that, oh, that person's wired differently.
joe rogan
You don't think Quentin Tarantino's wired differently?
fortune feimster
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, how are you going to make a movie like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood unless you're wired differently?
fortune feimster
Right.
That you can see this alternative ending to this horrific story.
joe rogan
Want to go on a ride through that dude's brain?
fortune feimster
Yeah, man.
You know?
joe rogan
Who knows what's going on there?
That guy creates some fucking wild, dark images.
fortune feimster
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
But you know, that guy, his brain is different.
It's fucking different.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why a lot of this, you-can-do-it stuff that you hear, like inspirational shit that you hear.
Like, you can do anything.
Just set your mind to it.
unidentified
But not always.
fortune feimster
Not everybody.
No.
joe rogan
Not really.
Just like, you know...
fortune feimster
Well, you want to think positive.
That's always, like, if you can, think on the positive side.
But not everybody can physically do everything.
joe rogan
You should definitely think positive in terms of energy, in terms of the way you view people and accept the moments.
But you shouldn't think positive in terms of you can do something that's not physically possible.
fortune feimster
Yeah, you shouldn't jump on a moving vehicle.
joe rogan
You shouldn't, like, if I decided at 52 I want to play football in the NFL. Right.
That's not physically possible.
It's literally not physically possible.
fortune feimster
You might be wired different after that.
joe rogan
Well, I'd be wired different for sure.
I'd be wired up.
My career would last 10 seconds if I was lucky, and that would be it.
That is just physical reality.
It doesn't matter how much positive thinking I do.
fortune feimster
Right.
Yeah, it's not going to change facts.
joe rogan
There's no changing.
I'm not winning any sprinting contests.
I can't dunk.
There's nothing special happening here.
You know, like that is...
That's physical reality.
It doesn't matter how much positive thinking I ever have.
fortune feimster
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
That's where people get weird.
fortune feimster
Well, that's like when people who don't believe in science, you know, someone gets sick, they go, we'll pray.
We'll pray that it will take it away.
You go, okay, well, you, listen, I'm not knocking praying.
Pray all day.
But at some point, this person needs medicine.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
God invented people.
People figured out medicine.
God made medicine.
Just take the medicine, stupid.
fortune feimster
Just take the medicine.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Just people that are studying their entire lives to try to figure out how to fix you.
They're not always right, but they're right way more than you are.
Or naturopaths.
fortune feimster
Sometimes you just need medicine.
joe rogan
I'm sure there's real naturopaths out there.
I'm sure there are.
But just the term makes me go, what are you doing?
Did you go to real school for that?
Naturopath, I'm sure, is a real thing.
But for sure, also, there's a lot of people that are kind of faking that thing.
Telling you how to heal yourself and telling you what herbs to take.
Like, hey, where's the evidence?
Where's the evidence these herbs are doing jack shit?
fortune feimster
They're like, just drink celery juice.
joe rogan
Like homeopathy?
That shit's nonsense, right?
Isn't it?
fortune feimster
I don't know.
joe rogan
Has that been proved to be nonsense?
fortune feimster
I don't know much about it.
joe rogan
Homeopathic medicine?
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
There's a certain amount of you just believing you got some medicine.
Right?
fortune feimster
Yeah, like the placebo effect?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
There's a certain amount of that.
I mean, if you take something that's like sugar pills, and you definitely feel like it made a big difference, your illness took a turn for the better, you just immediately start thinking that.
But we know that's not possible.
There's no good quality evidence that homeopathy is an effective treatment for these or any other health conditions.
Some practitioners also claim homeopathy can prevent malaria or other diseases.
There's no evidence to support this and no scientifically plausible way that homeopathy can prevent diseases.
The NHS UK. Yeah.
That's those English people, though.
They're probably trying to save money on their socialized medicine.
Kidding!
Yeah, I think if you believe that eating walnuts is going to make you feel like you have more energy and feel pure, and someone tells you and convinces you, you eat those walnuts, you'll start feeling different.
fortune feimster
For sure.
joe rogan
You'll decide you feel different.
I don't know what percentage of people.
You're not going to get the really skeptical people.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
The real cynical people.
But for some people, you give them some sugar pills and it'll work if they really believe it works.
We don't even know why that is.
We don't know.
They don't understand the placebo effect.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's real.
It's measurable.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And I think depending upon how much you buy into it, I bet that has a big impact on the effectiveness of it.
fortune feimster
Oh, for sure.
Because if you buy in 100%, you do, I think, feel that change.
But if you're like, yeah, this is not going to do anything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
It's not going to be the same thing.
joe rogan
It's almost like some religions are, that's what they are.
They're a theological sugar pill.
Like some religions are just, if you believe, if you just really believe, you get rewarded.
If you really believe, and that's the pull of a cult, right?
That's how you start any wacky cult.
You gotta really believe.
Do you really believe?
I believe too.
We all believe together.
Oh my God, we're so connected.
We all believe together.
fortune feimster
And they're saying they've got the answer.
Oh, you got the answer?
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
And that's also how you get people to, you know, the churches that do the tithing.
joe rogan
Yes, it's beautiful.
fortune feimster
Ten percent, bitch.
joe rogan
That's a good amount of money, isn't it?
fortune feimster
Man, that's a big chunk of change.
joe rogan
That's a good slice of cash.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good slice of cash right there.
fortune feimster
I know Mormons tithe.
Is that still a thing in other churches?
joe rogan
Yeah, some Christian religions definitely do it.
Yeah, tithe.
Ten percent.
fortune feimster
Man.
joe rogan
That's a lot of money.
fortune feimster
Yeah, especially if you're an entertainer and you're giving your agent 10 and your manager 10. Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know if Jesus would have wanted you to give payments like that.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think he would have.
fortune feimster
See, as Methodists, we just passed a collection plate and, you know, if you put a dollar, how's that different than a 20?
You're just like, I gave something, wouldn't Jesus be just happy that I made the effort?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's almost like they should just charge a membership fee.
Like, stop fucking around.
fortune feimster
Like, do you get more prayers if you put in a 20?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
fortune feimster
I don't know.
joe rogan
I bet you do.
I bet you get preferential treatment.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Is it like raffle tickets?
Is it like raffle tickets?
joe rogan
It's like raffle tickets!
fortune feimster
I would like $20 worth of prayers.
joe rogan
Well, do you remember when preachers, these late night preachers, they came up with this really dastardly move?
And the really dastardly move was to convince poor people to send them all of their money and that God would return it tenfold or twofold or whatever it is.
And they had all these different stories of all these poor, gullible people that they were telling I mean, I don't know who was doing the stories where they would tell the success stories.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
I did this, and this happened to me, and I made so much money afterwards, and now we have a house, we have a car, and they get these people convinced.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine targeting people's last remaining dollars.
fortune feimster
There's a special place in hell.
Some of that televangelist stuff is, you know, really preyed on that, especially back in the day.
It was like, like you said, those commercials.
Look at what they have because they did this for the church, for us.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
fortune feimster
Meanwhile, the preachers are flying from the jets.
There was a preacher, I think I heard it on Stern, there was a preacher that told the church flat out, I need another plane.
I need you to donate money.
You're like, what?
That's crazy.
joe rogan
A bunch of them have done that, yeah.
Yeah.
And there was one, it was a woman interviewed this preacher as he was getting into his limo, just getting off his plane.
She asked him, is it because you think poor people are demons?
fortune feimster
Oh God.
joe rogan
He had said something crazy about he doesn't want to fly commercially with all those demons.
fortune feimster
Oh my God.
He's like, AKA poor people.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is the guy.
fortune feimster
Oh man.
joe rogan
And he says, don't you say that.
Don't you say I said that.
He got serious with her.
Pointed in her face.
It was very scary.
fortune feimster
Man, that was all the rage.
Because I'm from outside of Charlotte.
It was Tammy Faye and Jim Baker.
joe rogan
Jim Baker just had to be shut down.
He was selling some fake coronavirus shit.
fortune feimster
He went to prison, right?
joe rogan
He's out now.
He's out and about.
Making things happen.
He had a fake coronavirus thing.
That apparently he got busted for.
They told him to stop selling that.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Oh, man.
joe rogan
There it is.
Missouri Attorney General sues Jim Baker over misleading coronavirus cure claims.
fortune feimster
Oh, that just came out.
joe rogan
Bro.
fortune feimster
That's what he looks like now?
joe rogan
He looks great.
fortune feimster
Oh, my gosh.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks great.
It's the best he's looked in years.
fortune feimster
Oh, he was selling it on his website.
joe rogan
Totally eliminate it, kills it, deactivates it.
That's what it said.
fortune feimster
I love when guys go to prison for being shady and they're like, not stopping.
joe rogan
Look at that.
The product is $125 on the show's website.
So he's saying he's got a $125 cure for the coronavirus.
It does not exist.
fortune feimster
That was like a cleaning product.
Is that cleaning product?
joe rogan
They're selling him Drano.
fortune feimster
Drink Jano.
unidentified
He just took the label off.
joe rogan
Just drink this hand sanitizer.
When you throw up, that's the demon coming out of you.
fortune feimster
Oh my gosh.
I didn't know he was still wheeling and dealing.
joe rogan
Still wheeling and dealing.
fortune feimster
Is he still preaching?
joe rogan
No.
I think he is.
Yeah, I think he has a TV show.
He's out there rocking it.
fortune feimster
Oh, he does.
The Jim Baker show.
joe rogan
Kapow!
Shout out to the Jim Baker show.
fortune feimster
Yeah, North Carolina.
joe rogan
I don't know if he's still North Carolina.
Imagine if he really did have the cure, and we were mocking him the whole time.
fortune feimster
I know, and he's like, you assholes.
joe rogan
What if there was like one scientist that lives in the woods, and he brought the guy in, and the guy had the cure, and they figured it out, it worked, but no one else knew, so he can't get fucked over by the FDA, so he's just going to sell it from his website.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
He's like, I tried to tell you.
I thought I sold it for a deal.
joe rogan
What if Jim Baker becomes the king of the world?
He's the only one left.
fortune feimster
Everyone else is like, we don't have the cure.
We don't have a vaccine.
joe rogan
It's just him and his believers.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
Damn.
fortune feimster
We'll find out.
joe rogan
Tune in.
Tune in, folks.
Tune in next week.
fortune feimster
But I miss Tammy Faye, rest in peace.
joe rogan
She was a wild one, huh?
fortune feimster
Anybody that gets their makeup tattooed on...
joe rogan
Did she get her tattooed on, the whole deal?
fortune feimster
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
joe rogan
That's a risky move.
fortune feimster
All that eye makeup.
joe rogan
You're letting somebody drill ink into your eyelids.
unidentified
Woo!
fortune feimster
I think it's become...
More women do it than you think.
It's just that they do a lot better job now.
They have better tools and techniques.
So people get them tattooed on, but you can't tell.
joe rogan
I think we're one or two generations from them being able to do whatever the you want.
What do you want your face to look like?
One or two generations, like 50 years from now.
fortune feimster
But you know, I feel like people can change their face so much already.
It takes out some of that.
When people fix certain things, they take away what was unique about them.
You know?
Jennifer Grey.
Dirty dancing.
joe rogan
Yeah, sometimes people fuck up.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
And with your face, you can't really go back.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard, right?
fortune feimster
You can't be like...
joe rogan
Lips are real hard.
fortune feimster
My bad.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, some gals got convinced that they needed to get their lips thicker and so they had surgeries on them or had their lips opened up.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
That's so painful.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And, you know, you can get scar tissue anytime you have surgeries.
You have weird spots.
Yeah.
fortune feimster
That's why I became a comedian.
joe rogan
That's why?
You didn't want to get your lips done?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lips are weird too if they don't match your face.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
unidentified
Immediately you're like, what's happening here?
joe rogan
It's just the ratio's off.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I think that people thought because they could do it with tits, why can't they do it with lips?
Let's keep this party rolling.
Let's make everything ridiculous.
Ridiculous tits where we're like, okay, we're in.
fortune feimster
I've heard that small boobs are in.
They're back.
That's the word on the street.
I'm off the market, so I haven't been testing it.
joe rogan
That's probably...
People have trends, right?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
People are getting their implants removed, too.
joe rogan
Well, that's good for health reasons.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, some people, there's a woman named Kat Zingano, and she fought in the UFC. Now she fights for Bellator.
She was one of the top bantamweight contenders.
She fought Ronda Rousey for the title.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
She had hers removed, and she detailed it on her Instagram and talked about all the negative effects it was having on her health-wise.
And now once she got them removed, she felt infinitely better.
fortune feimster
Well, especially the old implants, you know, that were leaking and a lot of people were getting sick from it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the problem is, apparently, it's just like everything else, like stuff we were talking about earlier.
Some people have a reaction to it and some people don't.
fortune feimster
Exactly, right.
joe rogan
For some people, it's like...
For whatever reason, their body rejects it and it creates an immunological response by their immune system.
It creates inflammation.
Some people have real problems with it.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Well, the trend right now, small boobs, big butts.
unidentified
Wow.
fortune feimster
That's what I've heard.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Like a track star.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Yeah, pretty much.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
We need a streamline.
For when our society collapses, we have to go back to living in the forest.
fortune feimster
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Mad Max style.
fortune feimster
I don't want to live in the forest.
joe rogan
This coronavirus turns out to be just like the flu, and everybody just gets the flu.
I hope that's the case.
But we've got to be really prepared for a real one.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Really prepared for like a plague.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Well, because you're seeing how fast even this is spreading.
joe rogan
Not just that, but how underprepared we are.
fortune feimster
Right.
Right?
joe rogan
I say we as if I'm out there doing science.
We need funding.
fortune feimster
Well, you've got to have tests.
We don't have the tests.
joe rogan
I think we need to pay way more attention to this shit.
I think...
I don't know what...
I mean, I have no idea if they're underfunded or if it's a matter of scientific innovation, like how much time it takes to figure out a new, better way to protect from these diseases or...
He was talking about some of the existing vaccines that they, you know, that they could have possibly worked on to make a vaccine for a coronavirus.
They never bothered doing it after SARS. Right.
Apparently, which is another coronavirus type thing.
fortune feimster
Like animal to person type thing.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot.
I think apparently a lot of them are like that, including the flu.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of them are people get it from like pigs.
That's the swine flu, birds, avian flu.
unidentified
Right.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It jumps from the animals to us and we get sick as fuck.
Spooky shit.
fortune feimster
It's really scary because you're already dealing with life.
joe rogan
Right.
fortune feimster
And then you're like, oh...
joe rogan
A plague is rolling through the land.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
You keep hearing the words pandemic.
joe rogan
And it's also, this is my take on it.
The way we look at it, we look at it like it makes sense.
Because we know about colds.
We know colds kill people.
We know diseases kill people.
So it seems to make sense.
But if those were demons...
And not diseases?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know how terrifying the world would be?
If all the people that are dying of diseases were really just dying of demons?
fortune feimster
That would be scary.
I would buy that $125 thing Jim Baker was selling.
joe rogan
But why is it less scary to have them die of disease than it is for them to die from demons if they're both just going to kill you?
You know what I'm saying?
If we just looked at diseases like demons, there's a fucking holy war going on out there.
There's a holy war going on out there.
The demons are trying to get us.
Instead, we're like, oh no, it's just COVID-19.
Stop.
It's a demon.
You guys are mislabeling these diseases.
They're all demons.
fortune feimster
You're like, can I take vitamin C for that?
joe rogan
We should treat healthcare in this country the same way we would treat fighting demons.
fortune feimster
Well, how do you even fight demons?
jamie vernon
Isn't there a path to fight most of those demons?
Like, silver bullet, fucking steak through the heart.
joe rogan
Well, we haven't put enough money into fighting the demons.
We've accepted a certain amount of loss of the demons every year.
Imagine if that was it?
Like, we would be so angry at our leadership.
unidentified
You fuck!
joe rogan
You're invading Afghanistan!
You haven't done shit for the demons at home!
Everyone's dying!
unidentified
Demons are claiming everyone!
joe rogan
Like how many people die of disease in this country every year?
fortune feimster
A lot.
joe rogan
A lot, right?
Like a lot of young kids and old folks die from the flu.
That happens.
jamie vernon
Is heart disease like the worst one?
joe rogan
I'm sure.
Yeah, but is that a disease?
jamie vernon
You mean like a contagious disease?
joe rogan
I mean like something that you catch.
fortune feimster
Like you come down with something.
joe rogan
Because cancer is a disease too.
And a lot of people get cancer.
You know, if we've thought about all that shit like demons, we'd be working harder to fight it.
There's a holy war.
There's a fucking holy war out there.
fortune feimster
But how do we fight it?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's not a coronavirus.
It's a fucking demon.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's what we got to call.
Maybe it's a bitch-ass demon.
It's only going to kill people with lung problems.
Right.
You know, it's not strong.
Like a strong demon.
Like the Spanish flu.
jamie vernon
Shape-shifting demon.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
Maybe.
jamie vernon
A cuckoo.
fortune feimster
A shape-shifter.
joe rogan
Like the outside.
Are you watching that show?
fortune feimster
No, but I've heard it's awesome.
joe rogan
It's very good.
I'm deep in.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is there only 10 episodes?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
It's over.
unidentified
Oh, it's over.
joe rogan
I didn't get to the end.
fortune feimster
These good shows do like eight or ten episodes.
You're like, ah, come on.
joe rogan
Well, this one can easily make a comeback.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, easily.
It's really good.
It's a really good show.
It's just a really well done horror show.
fortune feimster
Really?
joe rogan
It's based on a Stephen King book.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
Or did he write it?
Is it based on a novel or is it something?
I know it's his writing.
jamie vernon
I believe so.
He does that a lot.
He gives his stories out for young directors to make projects with.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
They nailed it.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really cool.
fortune feimster
Where's the plan?
joe rogan
HBO. It's really good.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But HBO does that thing where they make you fucking wait.
fortune feimster
Oh, a long time.
unidentified
They make you wait a week.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's with the waiting?
fortune feimster
It feels like forever.
joe rogan
Come on!
Streaming.
Catch up, bitch.
Streaming.
It's only streaming.
fortune feimster
I know.
That's weird.
joe rogan
You can't go back to like 8pm.
Here, tune in.
fortune feimster
I know.
It's impossible.
unidentified
Come on.
fortune feimster
To wait a week for these shows feels like a month.
joe rogan
They also have to give in to this idea of this certain window of prime time.
A certain window of prime time, which is whatever the fuck it is.
8 to 10. People want to watch whatever the fuck they want to watch.
fortune feimster
They want to download it for their plane ride.
joe rogan
Netflix just jacked the whole system.
There's some gears.
Yeah.
Streaming just fucked everything over for these people that want you to tune in.
jamie vernon
Have you seen this show?
Devs?
What is it made by your boy Alex Garland that did Ex Machina?
joe rogan
Oh.
fortune feimster
Oh, I don't know this.
jamie vernon
It seems like it...
I don't...
This is just me guessing based off of the trailer.
It just came out.
It looks like it's about the people that make the simulation sort of.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus!
unidentified
I'm too high for this, Jamie!
joe rogan
Jamie, I'm too high for this!
fortune feimster
I'm too high!
jamie vernon
Yeah, it looks really fun.
Nick Offerman.
fortune feimster
He's a good actor.
jamie vernon
Looks good.
Just came out.
joe rogan
Have you ever contemplated the idea of life as a simulation?
fortune feimster
No.
joe rogan
Have you ever heard of simulation theory?
That's what they're talking about.
fortune feimster
Like the Matrix type thing?
unidentified
Exactly.
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
Fucking Elon Musk believes it.
fortune feimster
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
He said if he had one question, what did he say?
He would want to know what's behind the simulation or what's beyond the simulation.
fortune feimster
You mean like who's controlling it?
joe rogan
That was like his one question he would want to have answered.
fortune feimster
Right.
jamie vernon
That's on the other side.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like who's controlling the simulation?
What's beyond the simulation I think was his quote.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
He said that it's possible.
And then if you talk to some scientists that have tried to study this, like look at it objectively, they think it's more probable that we are living in a simulation than not.
fortune feimster
Yeah, but it would be like, yeah, the question really is, because it can't just exist, right?
joe rogan
Right.
Like eventually it's going to be here, right?
This is what we all agree.
Eventually there's going to come a time where if you think about what you can do now, have you ever fucked around with one of those like HTC Vives?
fortune feimster
Oh, the...
joe rogan
Yeah, Oculus.
Have you done the Oculus thing?
The Oculus one is pretty sweet because it's just a headset and it plugs into a laptop or iPad rather.
So the iPad's sitting there.
Plugged in and you step away from it and you're in this fucking world.
fortune feimster
Yeah, you're in a world.
A whole other place.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can play all these games.
There's boxing games.
There's games with swords and shit and you're swiping at like geometric patterns that are flying by you and you're playing drums on them.
fortune feimster
And it's so realistic.
joe rogan
It's so realistic.
And this is at its infancy.
Like we know for sure.
If they keep going with that, think about what a movie used to look like in 1930. It was so ridiculous.
Watch King Kong.
Special effects are so bad.
They're so bad that it's like for kids today, it's actually funny.
I've showed it to my kids and they thought it was funny.
But back then it was amazing.
fortune feimster
It was like beyond anything anyone had seen.
joe rogan
That's not even 100 years.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
So what we can do now with these HTC Vibes and these Oculus and all these places like Sandbox where you go and play these games and these warehouses with virtual reality, this is just the beginning.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah.
100%.
joe rogan
This stuff is going to be indistinguishable.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
There's going to come a time where they can create a digital realm that you can exist in and it's indistinguishable from this world.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
It's just going to take time.
If we don't blow ourselves up, it might take...
fortune feimster
That's the thing.
We got plagues and...
joe rogan
Yeah, if we don't get eaten by the demons.
fortune feimster
Climate stuff.
joe rogan
We don't get attacked by aliens.
We have a...
If we can survive for a certain amount of time in prosperity.
fortune feimster
When are the aliens coming to get us?
joe rogan
I don't think they're going to come get us.
fortune feimster
Okay.
joe rogan
They're probably going to stop us from destroying the world.
I bet they would do that.
fortune feimster
Yeah?
joe rogan
If they were really watching.
If I was from another planet, I wouldn't think it would be a good idea to fuck with people.
I'd be like, let's just let them sort this out.
Hopefully they'll get it right.
But I definitely would want to step in before they hit the nukes.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
Like, we can't let them nuke the whole planet, these idiots.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
My God says you guys suck.
unidentified
They get fucking fingers on the nukes.
joe rogan
Like Pakistan and India, right?
They both have nuclear weapons.
And they're right next to each other.
fortune feimster
Well, when Trump was fighting with Kim Jong-un, I was like, we're really close.
California is very close.
joe rogan
Does Pakistan, do they have nuclear weapons as well?
Well, India for certain has, right?
They're right next to each other and they hate each other and they get mad.
They get fucking missiles!
fortune feimster
It's crazy.
joe rogan
No!
fortune feimster
Please!
There's like one dude that if he's like really pissed off, who's going to stop him, you know?
joe rogan
Pakistan's weapons of mass destruction is one of the nine states to possess nuclear weapons.
Pakistan began development of nuclear weapons in January of 1972 under Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
I don't want to say his name.
I'm fucking it up.
No disrespect.
Who delegated the program.
fortune feimster
It's just a gentleman's agreement that they're not going to use these?
joe rogan
Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
Is that it?
That's a crazy thing too.
Parts of the world that just have wacky ass names.
There's a dude who fights in the UFC. He's the UFC lightweight champion.
And he's from Dagestan.
They have a totally different way of using words over there.
And their names are crazy.
His name is Khabib Nurmagomedov.
fortune feimster
Like this long.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like this powerful, you know, Russian-sounding name.
Like, that so identifies you with that part of the world.
fortune feimster
Oh, yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Like a name like that.
There's a guy, Magomed Sher...
His name is Zabit Magomed Sharapov.
fortune feimster
Wow.
joe rogan
I fucked it up.
Think of that name.
Zabit Magomed Sharapov.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Still sounds terrible.
Coming out of my mouth sounds terrible.
Incredible fighter.
And he's from that part of the world, too.
fortune feimster
Oh, there he is.
joe rogan
Magomed Sharapov.
fortune feimster
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Look at that long name.
Like, that name shows you that it's that part of the world.
It's like, but Mike Jones.
Hi, I'm Jim Smith.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's so American, right?
That we have a boring-ass name development program.
fortune feimster
Well, we got lazy when people came off the boat, right?
They're like, oh, that's too long.
We're going to cut it.
joe rogan
Mike Williams, hi.
Nice to meet you, Pete.
fortune feimster
It's William Snobovic.
Pete Jones?
joe rogan
Pete Jones, good to see you.
Oh, have you met Pete Jones?
Which Pete Jones?
The Idaho Pete Jones?
No, no, no.
You know?
fortune feimster
Or they would just take your trade.
Oh, you're a shoemaker.
unidentified
Right.
fortune feimster
There's your name.
joe rogan
Craig Shoemaker.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that nuts?
But some parts of the world, they have fucking gallant names.
fortune feimster
Man.
joe rogan
You know, long with, like, liberal use of Zs.
They use a lot of Zs.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
But, like, some languages, though, it's like this huge, long name, and then it's like a zero with a slash.
You're like, that's how they write it.
It's like...
This long name can be represented by a tiny symbol in some languages.
joe rogan
Is that true?
fortune feimster
I don't know.
I'm making shit up.
unidentified
Did you make that up?
fortune feimster
I think the weed hit me.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure it did.
Like a Chinese symbol.
fortune feimster
Yeah, exactly.
Like that.
joe rogan
Imagine having to learn that now at a grown age.
As a grown up.
Imagine if you had to go learn Mandarin.
fortune feimster
So hard.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking really hard.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
jamie vernon
You had a brain injury and you just couldn't understand it and you couldn't explain to anyone.
fortune feimster
That's had to have happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
Yeah, the crazy thing about Asian characters too, they developed a whole different way of saying stuff.
They developed a way of saying stuff like they can recreate our language inside their language, but they're doing it with these little symbols and they all kind of know what it all means when it's all pushed together like that.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But we look at it as just like a bunch of lines that we don't understand.
fortune feimster
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
But if you could see it, that would be one of the weirder things about learning to read it.
All of a sudden, it would look like language to you.
fortune feimster
Right.
Yeah.
It's no longer just symbols.
joe rogan
It's no longer nonsense.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, look at that.
fortune feimster
And don't they read from, certain languages read the other direction, right?
joe rogan
Imagine if you had to write all that out.
Like, good lord.
And that's perfect.
fortune feimster
Yeah, that's like beautifully written.
joe rogan
Like imagine, you know how bad doctors have prescription handwriting stuff?
fortune feimster
Yeah, what's the slang of that?
joe rogan
What's like a guy whose handwriting is terrible?
What's his note look like?
Do you have to really understand Mandarin to sort through that?
fortune feimster
His scribble, yeah.
They're like, oh, that was supposed to have three dots.
joe rogan
I've gotten mail, like actual mail from friends, like a Christmas card or something like that, and they write something in it, and I'm like, hey, bro, what did you want to say to me?
Because I can't read a word of what that scratch was, but they still send it to you.
No, that's not real.
fortune feimster
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
What is that?
fortune feimster
Well, no one teaches handwriting.
They don't teach handwriting anymore.
joe rogan
Oh my god, but that's how they're doing it in Chinese.
That's the Chinese version of it.
See what that is?
fortune feimster
Oh.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
You imagine what kind of 10th degree black belt in Chinese you'd have to be to even understand what the fuck that is?
fortune feimster
Man.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Of course, though.
It just makes sense if we were thinking that people have terrible handwriting in English.
Why wouldn't they have terrible handwriting in Chinese?
fortune feimster
For sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's illegible.
Like, if you told me that was Chinese, I'm like, bro, that's scribbles.
fortune feimster
Right?
Yeah, it looks like bad cursive.
joe rogan
Okay, that kind of looks like Chinese.
But wow, look how everything flows.
fortune feimster
And it's on top of each other.
joe rogan
Bro, it looks like letters that are being attacked by a tornado.
Doesn't it?
It looks like letters that are all being attacked by cartoon tornadoes.
fortune feimster
And squiggly lines at the bottom.
joe rogan
Everything's a tornado attack.
It's a complicated language, though.
It's so much more interesting than ours.
I'm so bummed out that I'm too stupid to learn it at this day and age.
fortune feimster
I mean, just to learn Spanish is hard.
joe rogan
Spanish is useful though.
There's way more Spanish people over here.
fortune feimster
Of course.
Way more Spanish speaking people over here.
The beauty of Spanish is that things sound like they're spelled.
The hard part of the English language is so many things are not pronounced how they're spelled.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
So Spanish is very literal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And Spanish is all using the same letters that we use.
You know, like if you had ever learned Russian, like, oof.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
You're jumping to a different system.
joe rogan
It's a different alphabet.
There's a bunch of those little weird Russian symbols.
You're like, what is that?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that must be how a Russian looks at English if they don't speak it.
But the thing is about other countries, a lot of them are bilingual.
fortune feimster
Oh yeah.
A lot of them.
We're way behind with that stuff.
joe rogan
Way behind.
fortune feimster
I lived in Spain for a year and everybody there spoke two languages.
unidentified
Really?
fortune feimster
At minimum.
And a lot of them were coming from other countries and they spoke multiple languages there.
joe rogan
I wonder if that's one of the things that makes places like Italy or countries like that a little bit more artistically sophisticated still.
Maybe it's the fact that everybody knows more than one language.
I wonder if their brains just work a little better from doing that, processing two languages.
Like, think about all the weird...
Like, every time I visited Italy, I'm like, how did all this art come out of this one place?
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
I know a lot of it they stole from other spots when they were the Romans.
But just the shit that they made, for sure, in Italy.
It's like, this one little country?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
How the fuck did you guys do this?
fortune feimster
They had really good coffee.
joe rogan
But my argument falls apart under scrutiny because they just spoke Italian back then.
fortune feimster
Right?
joe rogan
They didn't speak English back then, did they?
unidentified
Uh...
fortune feimster
I don't think so.
joe rogan
They probably never made contact with each other like they do now.
fortune feimster
But even now, you'll go to a gelato shop, and the cashier's fluent in Italian and English.
You're like, you could make a gazillion dollars being a translator, but they're just like, oh, we all know two languages.
That's just how it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, some of them are perfect.
fortune feimster
But it's like such a valued skill, you know?
joe rogan
And rare.
fortune feimster
And I don't think they even know how much they have, like what value they have in them.
joe rogan
I used to know this dude that I used to do Taekwondo with, and he was an international shipment guy.
He would get things in other countries and bring them back to America and sell them.
And this is like pre-internet, man.
I used to deliver pizzas with this dude when he was trying to start his business up.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
But anyway, he could learn languages.
He just had a unique ability to learn languages.
And he was really into it.
And he would recite things from these languages to you.
I'm like, damn, dude, that's impressive as fuck.
He just kept learning.
He was really into learning languages.
And then he'd buy and sell things from other countries.
And he could talk to these people on the phone in different languages.
fortune feimster
Yeah, well I think it's like having a musical skill.
I think you hear things like you are just able to translate it better.
One of my best friends growing up, he speaks like five languages.
I think you just have to be predispositioned to be good at that.
joe rogan
You think so?
Is that what it is or is it just you just have to love it?
fortune feimster
I think it's a combo of like you have to love it, you have to practice it, but I do think certain people have like the gift to do it more than others.
joe rogan
kids become really good singers as adults because they get encouraged to do it as children and they develop their vocal cords and their ability to project while they're growing.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
I wonder if it's the same thing.
fortune feimster
So they train it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the same thing as like there's certain physical skills like martial arts in particular.
Where they think that the very, very elite, cream of the crop, they start really young.
fortune feimster
Really?
joe rogan
And yeah, guys like Floyd Mayweather started boxing really, really young.
And he's pretty much regarded the best boxer ever.
And as he grew up, he grew up, like his body was developing while he was boxing.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
So it becomes almost like a part of who you are.
fortune feimster
Your body and your skills become one and the same.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And they think that when you're learning and you're like in your 30s, like say if you were like a pretty athletic person, you're learning in your 30s, you're always going to have like a giant...
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
When you're dealing with a guy like Floyd Mayweather.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he's just so clean.
fortune feimster
It's like in his bones.
joe rogan
It's in his DNA. Yeah.
Everything's clean and honed.
The pathways are so polished.
And he has so much understanding because he's been doing it his whole life.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like there's certain things you see, almost like you can't catch up.
You can't catch up to certain things.
You have to, if you want to...
If you want to develop those skills to the ultimate peak for some people, it has to be done while they're growing and evolving, it seems.
And I always wondered if that was the case with voices, too.
Little kids are singing when they're really young.
I wonder if those little kids develop amazing voices because they're strengthening it as their...
fortune feimster
I would think so.
joe rogan
You would think so, right?
fortune feimster
Like swimmers.
They start young.
Gymnasts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody starts young.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it would make sense that...
I feel like there's a lot of energy involved in singing.
I can't sing, but I feel like there's a lot of projection and energy involved in that.
I would think that if you learn how to do that as you're young, as your body's growing and developing, it'll...
fortune feimster
I would think so.
joe rogan
I would think so.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
Because you can...
You know, people get classically trained.
They get all these different trainings.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
But if you started younger, it does seem like you would be at such an advantage.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder if that's the case with talking shit, too.
fortune feimster
You gotta learn young.
joe rogan
If you don't learn how to talk shit when you're really young, it becomes a real problem as you get older.
It's hard to learn how to talk shit when you're in your 30s and 40s.
fortune feimster
You at least have to have siblings.
I feel like people with siblings are good at talking shit.
joe rogan
Or good friends.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Good friends that can shit on you.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good friends that can say ridiculous things.
fortune feimster
You need friends that shit on you.
joe rogan
It's not a bad thing to have.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
If it's funny.
fortune feimster
Keep you on your toes.
joe rogan
That's fucking good for you.
It's good for everybody.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look, we're funny.
People are funny.
fortune feimster
Well, I think that's what made me have a thicker skin.
I have two older brothers.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
fortune feimster
So you're just like, from day one, you're a piece of shit.
Yeah.
But they love you, but they talk to you in a different, you're not coddled, you know, with brothers.
They're just like, toughen up.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a totally different kind of relationship.
They know you.
They know the everyday you.
You always find that really tough people, the really toughest people, a lot of them, not all of them, but a lot of them, they have older brothers that used to beat their ass.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
For sure.
joe rogan
Some of the best fighters in the UFC have older brothers.
fortune feimster
I don't fight because why would I fight?
But if I had to protect myself, I know that old school fighting with my brothers would just come out and I would beat somebody up.
Because that instinct would come back.
That fight or flight.
You're like, oh, my brother's about to beat the shit out of me.
I better toughen up and fight back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Because they didn't care if you were a girl.
joe rogan
They didn't give a fuck.
fortune feimster
There was no, like, oh, you're a girl, you can't hit girls.
We'd be like, and I'd be an instigator, too.
I'd be like, come on, motherfucker!
I had such a potty mouth.
At like 8, I was like, that's all you got?
Fuck you!
They're like, you're 8!
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
You were like that at 8?
fortune feimster
Because I had brothers.
joe rogan
Wow.
fortune feimster
And how old were your brothers?
The oldest one's 7 years older than me and the middle one's 3 years older than me.
Oh my god.
That's a lot.
joe rogan
Three's a lot.
Seven's ridiculous.
fortune feimster
Yeah, it's almost like your dad.
I'm like, are you my dad?
But yeah, I remember I got sent to the principal's office in second grade because I gave somebody a bird.
They're like, how did you learn?
Where did that come from?
I'm like, my brother.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That makes sense.
That would lead you to comedy.
fortune feimster
They turned into really good guys, but when they were young, I heard stories like when they would walk past, that was back when people would keep their doors open in our little town.
Everyone would see my brothers coming and would shut their doors.
They were like the rugrats of the neighborhood.
I just learned to be a little feisty.
joe rogan
Do you think that helps you in comedy?
fortune feimster
It certainly, certainly helps because you just, you know, we all eat shit at some point and you just go, alright.
I hate shit.
Moving on.
joe rogan
That's the hardest thing for people to take, right?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oftentimes.
fortune feimster
Well, yeah, it's hard because you're like, it's just you and a microphone.
If you're bombing.
joe rogan
It's you.
fortune feimster
You gotta sweat through it.
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
And I mean, it certainly helps with like, you know, social media that we talked about.
It's brutal at times.
You just, you know, it's not fun, but you just kind of shrug it off and go, oh well.
And move on.
joe rogan
Yeah, but those bombings are so valuable.
fortune feimster
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Goddamn, they're valuable.
Failures are so valuable.
We look at them like they're really bad and it's terrible, but if you have energy, failures are valuable because it makes you realize, I got some correction to do.
I gotta figure out what the fuck went wrong.
I gotta do better.
And it re-energizes you.
fortune feimster
Yeah, because if people were just laughing, it's not making you get better at that thing.
Yeah, you don't sweat it.
joe rogan
Sometimes you just sweat it.
fortune feimster
And it sucks when you're in it, but it does make you like, oh, something's not working here.
joe rogan
Yeah, so I try to pretend that I just bombed every day.
Especially when I'm about to go on stage of writing.
I've thought about it that way.
Pretend like I'm doing a set right after I bombed.
You know that feeling?
You get to work.
It's a weird thing we do.
It doesn't get any less weird.
fortune feimster
No.
joe rogan
You keep doing it 20, 30 years.
It's still weird.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
fortune feimster
Well, I think that's why stand-up is a great equalizer.
These huge comics can go for their audiences, go kill, kill, kill.
But then they got to go back to the comedy club with that new stuff and start from square one and work it back up.
So it doesn't matter how big you are.
Everybody's got to go back to the club at some point.
And that's the beauty of it.
joe rogan
It really is.
That's the beauty of this era.
We've been talking about that a lot lately because it's such an important point.
You become a beginner again.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you have new shit.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and you don't know if it works.
joe rogan
And, you know, I was hanging out with Tommy this weekend.
Tom Segura was in Vegas.
He just happened to be there doing stand-up the same weekend.
I'm there for the UFC. Yeah.
So he came to the fights and I came to see his show.
fortune feimster
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
And his show, his special is just about to come out, and he's got all this new shit that he's been working out at the clubs.
It's so fun to see that stage where someone's putting it together.
They've got these big laughs, and he's got this part where they're trying to figure out where this goes, and then you can see how much of it is new and how much of it is polished.
fortune feimster
Where he's going with it.
Do you, I mean, with someone like Tom who's, you know, so seasoned, do you look at stuff and ever be like, hey, I have a suggestion?
Or you kind of just, you know, do you ever...
joe rogan
If I really saw something, I mean, we talk about stuff and he'll give me one too.
He'll tell me, you know, like, I like it when you did it this way.
First show you did it this way.
We definitely do that to each other.
fortune feimster
Yeah, that's nice.
joe rogan
Especially if you see something glaringly.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like, but we ask each other too.
Like Bert and I were talking about a new bit that he had.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Where he did it one way during the first show, and he missed the part of why it got such a big laugh.
And we were explaining it.
I was like, this is how, because I watched both sets, I was like, this is how I saw the first one.
But this is how I saw the second one.
You were implying something that's more funny.
And he was like, oh, right.
Okay, so that, yeah.
So I need more of a pause there.
I was like, exactly.
Otherwise, it seems like it's part of the sentence before it.
fortune feimster
I love that.
I love getting that feedback.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, it's great getting it, too.
You know, some good comics have given me really good advice.
It's cool when you see it through somebody else's eyes.
fortune feimster
Yeah, for sure.
Because, yeah, there's so many things you miss.
Yeah, because Bert was doing that with me.
He was like, oh, you said this thing.
You've got to go back to that thing and explore it.
Do you record all your sets?
Half of them.
I need to get better about that.
Sometimes I forget, I just...
joe rogan
I listen to half of them, so we're even.
I record all of them, I listen to half of them.
That's how I learn how to do it.
I feel like if I learn that way, it seems to me that when I'm doing it, it's just...
It's always just trying to do your best.
And for me, part of doing my best is I have to hear it.
I gotta listen to it.
And if I felt like something went weird or something was clunky or I tried to do something backwards or try to do the punchline first and just fucking around with a bit, trying to expand on it, I need to hear it.
fortune feimster
I need to hear it.
joe rogan
I need to hear it.
fortune feimster
You can hear it.
As soon as you hear it, you know if it worked.
joe rogan
You can hear clunkiness.
Especially when shit's new.
It's like, ooh, this is clunky.
This entrance is clunky.
I don't know how to get there.
I gotta make a line.
fortune feimster
It's such a science, right?
joe rogan
It is kind of, but it's also, like, what's great about Joey Diaz is that it's an art.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
There's no science to him.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
It's feel.
fortune feimster
A plus B doesn't equal C. Yeah, it's feel.
joe rogan
It's just he knows what's funny.
Right.
But he's like that all the time.
Like, listen, Fortune, cut the shit.
Let's cut the shit!
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just cut the shit.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and he's got a lot of opinions and they're funny.
Yeah.
Because I just start with what's funny to me and then expand from there and hope that other people find it funny.
If they don't, you jump ship, try a new bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but when you're doing it, you're doing it for a specific reason, right?
You're doing it because you're trying to figure out how to make it work.
fortune feimster
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
It's a little science project you're doing.
fortune feimster
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You know?
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy.
fortune feimster
Well, because you know that certain stories from your life or family or whatever are funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Sometimes we're like, but how do I get that across?
And it not be a, you had to be there moment.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
fortune feimster
Like, how do you make the audience be there?
That's the part for me that's always what I'm aiming for.
I don't want them to go away going, oh, I guess you had to be there to find that funny.
I want them to be like, oh, I felt like I was in that moment with you watching it happen.
I like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's just a really good joke, right?
I always say that most jokes that you see recorded, it's probably 70% as funny as it was if you were there.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
Do you feel like that's accurate?
fortune feimster
For sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, because there's a feeling that you get when you're laughing with people.
There's a communal feeling, too.
It's fun about being in the audience.
fortune feimster
Yeah, it brings it out of you, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun.
It's fucking fun.
Part of the fun of what we do is the fact that we do it in front of an audience.
Everybody's jazzing off the experience.
Everybody's having a good time.
fortune feimster
And the audience can control so much of the mood of the show.
joe rogan
Yes, for sure, for sure.
When you're live, or you're watching it at home rather, you're just getting a ghost.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're getting a ghost of that night.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
You're not getting the full juice.
fortune feimster
A simulation.
joe rogan
So if you think someone's funny, what I'm saying is if someone thinks you're funny from Netflix, and I'm sure they will, you're more funny.
fortune feimster
Right.
joe rogan
On top of that.
You're more funny on top of that in real life.
fortune feimster
Oh, 100%.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just...
fortune feimster
Because there's a magic with a lot of people.
You watch them live and you're like, oh my god.
joe rogan
It's one of the cool things about what we do.
It has to be done live.
You have to learn how to do it live.
You have to practice it live.
People know what's going on now, though.
They know you're doing that.
Before, when people would come to see you, they wanted every bit to be polished and done and ready.
But now they know that if you come to the Tuesday night to the Comedy Store, there's going to be some clunky premises tossed about.
fortune feimster
You're like, you paid $15 for this ticket.
This is what you're getting.
joe rogan
Sometimes you have a new idea and you just get it off wrong right out of the gate and you can't recover.
You can't recover.
fortune feimster
Your set just sucks.
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Just get into home plate with one flat tire.
fortune feimster
You're looking for that light.
Who's next?
Then Joey comes and murders.
joe rogan
How many nights a week are you going up?
fortune feimster
Uh, I've been doing, hitting different clubs, probably three, two to three a week.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
But I go to, I don't go like to the comedy store every week.
I'll change it up and do different shows around town.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What are the other spots you like to hit?
fortune feimster
I do store, laugh factory, improv.
I hit up Flappers sometimes.
joe rogan
Why not?
fortune feimster
Go to Flappers.
It's a good place to work out.
joe rogan
You ever do the Ice House?
fortune feimster
Yeah, do the Ice House.
Love that place.
Like alt shows, Largo here and there.
There's some other, like, rooms that do, like, gay shows.
I'll pop into those.
joe rogan
Dookie, how you said that?
fortune feimster
Gay shows?
Gay shows.
joe rogan
What's with the hand?
What's the hand movement?
fortune feimster
I just felt very fabulous talking about the gay shows.
But for me, it's always important.
It would be easy for me to go to the gay rooms and just do those shows, those audiences.
They know my story similar to their story.
They know my thing.
For me as a comic, hitting the store has always got to be part of the routine.
Because I want to appeal to the bros, to the straight chicks, to the married couple, to the whoever.
I don't want my thing to be for one group of people.
joe rogan
I think that attitude is why you're so fucking funny.
fortune feimster
I mean, there's no way to get better.
joe rogan
But you have such a good attitude about it.
That's such a professional approach.
You're looking at it objectively and you're saying, I want to mix it all up.
I want to do everything.
fortune feimster
Because there will be times I'm going to the store where I know I have a new bit.
I don't know how it's going to go.
I get anxiety.
I know it's going to be hard, but I've got to do it.
Because that's the only way to get better.
I could just go to this alt room and kill.
But you walk away going, yeah, but...
joe rogan
You were preaching to the choir.
fortune feimster
Yeah, exactly.
What did I accomplish from that?
So for me, the store has always got to be part of my workout.
Because...
You know, you see the arms crossed and be like, yeah, what do you got?
You know, and then you have to slowly see those arms unfold and, you know, win those people over.
joe rogan
Good for you.
fortune feimster
And it doesn't always happen, but it makes you keep at it, you know?
joe rogan
That's why things are...
You're already 13 years in.
You're doing a theater tour.
fortune feimster
Well, I'm trying.
joe rogan
For real, that attitude really is.
You have a very professional attitude about it.
fortune feimster
Well, I love...
Comedy.
I love stand-up.
I respect the art form.
I know I'm on the newer side of it, even at 13 years.
And I just try to find my place in it and how to keep getting better at it.
joe rogan
I really think that's why you're so good.
I really do.
And I'm a fan.
I think you're very, very funny.
fortune feimster
I appreciate that.
joe rogan
I enjoy working with you.
fortune feimster
Same.
I mean, I look up to you so much.
Don't do that.
joe rogan
You'd just be disappointed.
fortune feimster
As a comic, no, there's no, I mean, your storytelling is, like, unbelievable.
I think the, one of the, I saw you doing that, um, what, what's happened?
joe rogan
Oh, Ari's show.
fortune feimster
Yeah, Ari's show.
joe rogan
Um, This Is Not Happening.
fortune feimster
Yeah, and you just told, like, you're just telling a story.
It's, like, the fucking funniest thing.
joe rogan
That was a true story, too.
unidentified
Yeah!
fortune feimster
And you're just like, holy, it's like a whole other level.
And it's so great to watch.
joe rogan
Oh, thank you.
fortune feimster
Yeah.
joe rogan
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
Tell everybody how to get to you on Instagram.
It's already 311. Dude, we've been doing this for three hours.
fortune feimster
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
fortune feimster
And I didn't have to pee once.
joe rogan
You're amazing.
You didn't even budge.
fortune feimster
I wore a diaper.
No.
joe rogan
I did it for you, Joe.
unidentified
Joe, I pissed my pants for you.
fortune feimster
I'm at Fortune Feimster.
joe rogan
Spell that for people.
fortune feimster
F-E-I-M-S-T-E-R. Fortune, like the cookie.
joe rogan
Yep.
fortune feimster
That's my Instagram, fortunefeimster.com slash tour.
I'm going to tons of cities.
My special, Sweet and Salty, on Netflix.
And all that good stuff.
joe rogan
And all that good stuff.
And she's fucking hilarious.
Go out, see her.
fortune feimster
Come see the show.
joe rogan
Thank you very much for being here.
unidentified
Thank you.
fortune feimster
This was awesome.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
I enjoyed it.
Bye, everybody.
That was fun.
fortune feimster
That was great.
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