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Jan. 6, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1406 - Brian Redban
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unidentified
Hello Brian.
brian redban
Hello Joe.
joe rogan
Happy New Year.
Happy 2020. Happy 2020. That doesn't sound real.
2020 sounds like a fake number.
We're in the year 2020. That's like a movie about the future.
brian redban
Yeah.
We've already gone past the Blade Runner date.
joe rogan
What was the Blade Runner date?
brian redban
I think that was September or October of last year.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting about the estimations about the future?
No one ever underestimates.
Everyone overestimates, right?
Like Space 1999. Remember that show?
Yep.
I'm older than you, but when that show was on TV, people thought that in 1999, we'd be just fucking flying around through space all the time and living out there.
brian redban
Yeah, like Buck Rogers.
joe rogan
Yeah, all those shows.
So Blade Runner was what year?
brian redban
Last year, 2019.
joe rogan
Wow.
They missed that, huh?
brian redban
Yeah, because it's funny when they show it in the movie, it shows the background looks like flying cars and crazy billboards and everything.
joe rogan
I wonder where technology would be if it wasn't for the internet.
Imagine if the internet was not possible, but technology still advanced electronically.
The capability of showing higher resolution images and processing power and all that stuff kept moving.
But they never figured out how to link it all up.
brian redban
Yeah.
That's weird.
joe rogan
That's the scariest thing about the internet.
It's almost like...
The future put ideas in people's heads and those people just started figuring out a way to connect everybody and then connect all this crazy computing power and all this information and you could translate it in real time and do it all around the world.
And what a better way to get the technology to advance.
Because if it wasn't for the internet, where would we be at realistically?
brian redban
We'd still be racist, we'd still be molesting people at work, we'd still have nuclear bombs.
We'd still have radio, we'd still have TV. Yeah, because that's what's causing all the problems in Hollywood and everything in life.
Look at all this stuff that's going on right now with Trump and everything like that.
It's the internet getting together going, no, this is wrong, this is right.
It's people becoming gangs immediately.
joe rogan
I think it's a side effect of something that's ultimately going to be good.
That's what I think.
I think we're learning how to figure it out.
But I think, ultimately, it's going to be good.
Because what it is, is, like, everybody gets to have an opinion.
And through those opinions, you find out which ones make any sense, which ones are crazy, and which...
But, like, right now, it's like, the people that are really into expressing their opinions on both sides are usually the ones that everybody else is like, hey, hey, hey, fucking relax, man.
Like, isn't there...
I think most of us have some sort of a middle ground on almost everything.
But that's not represented right now, because right now it's like the most extreme people are the ones who are putting the most energy into talking about things.
Like, this Greta Thunberg girl.
Do they have to go to her every time anybody says anything wrong about the climate?
Because apparently Meatloaf said something...
What did Meat Loaf say?
jamie vernon
Well, he said something about her specifically.
I think he said...
joe rogan
Did he?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, I thought he had a...
The headline I read, and I'm a fucking sucker for clickbait, it said he had climate denial comments.
brian redban
He just said something like, relax.
He pretty much kind of did that passive-aggressive thing, like, chill out, lady.
joe rogan
He's probably being funny.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what we do.
brian redban
I do feel kind of bad for her.
I think it's hilarious.
Imagine all the other girls in school.
What did they think about her?
joe rogan
I have a friend who worked with autistic people, and she said she thinks she's autistic.
She thinks that this situation is like a really bright child that maybe is being pushed in this direction to be this public figure.
It's just...
It's not that her opinions aren't valid.
They definitely are valid.
But it's not healthy to take a young kid who's developing and then thrust them into the front of something like global climate change debate.
It's so hostile and then just instantaneously this kid is getting mocked and fuck with and then they're asking her to make statements and and How dare you that how dare you just plays over and over and over again like she's not wrong It's not wrong her opinions, but it's like she's really young to handle this I don't know if she's autistic.
She seems very, very smart.
brian redban
Is she like this all day?
joe rogan
That's a good question, too.
When you think of autism, don't you almost immediately think they're probably really smart at something?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
Is that from Brain Man, or is that accurate?
brian redban
No, that's accurate.
That's why the government uses them for their military, for radars and stuff, because they're very smart at one certain thing or a few certain things.
Accuracy is another one that I think a lot of them are smart at.
joe rogan
One time when I was really high, I had a crazy thought about autism and that all these spectrum disorders are eventually going to make emotions like a less significant aspect of being a human being.
You know, some people...
Some people, they don't have any control over their emotions, right?
They fly off the handle, they're nutty, they cry, they scream.
It varies, right, with all of us.
Wouldn't it be, like, more efficient if that wasn't the case anymore?
Like, if it was, like, an appendix.
You know, we had an appendix, we had an organ that we used to use to, what is it, like, processing roots and shit, or bark?
brian redban
Bone.
joe rogan
Was it bone?
brian redban
Yeah, I thought it was, like, Breaking down bones.
joe rogan
Something we don't use anymore because of our diet change.
Like, imagine if your emotions become something like that.
Like, some people have emotional flare-ups.
Like, oh, that guy blew out his appendix.
He just had a fucking hissy fit at his brother's wedding.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
No, fuck you, man!
Dad always fucking said!
jamie vernon
Which one of the pills, Xanax or Prozac, makes you just numb to, like, thoughts?
Xanax, I think?
unidentified
Xanax.
joe rogan
I think Xanax is the anti-relaxant one.
Prozac's the speed, right?
Or anti-anxiety one.
Xanax is anti-anxiety, right?
jamie vernon
I think so, yeah.
So, like, just pure Xanax all the time?
joe rogan
Somebody told me that if you take that, when you get off of it, it accentuates the anxiety.
Like, once you get off, there's a rubber band effect.
But then a doctor told me that's horseshit.
So I'm going to go with the doctor.
But so many people, maybe it's because they forgot how bad anxiety is, and then they get it back like, fuck!
Maybe because you took a break and you know what it's like to not have anxiety, then the reality of being on the natch is just even more discomforting.
brian redban
A lot of people take Xanax to come down from bad trips, or if they get too stoned or too fucked up on mushrooms or something.
joe rogan
Good call.
brian redban
I don't think I've ever done Xanax.
Have you done Xanax?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, but I didn't even know that I had a problem with anxiety until I started taking CBD. Oh, yeah.
Once I started taking CBD oil, I was like, wow, I feel great.
brian redban
How much CBD? What's your normal CBD? What do you take?
I do a lot of lotions.
joe rogan
I use a bunch of different companies and a bunch of different kinds of stuff.
Some of them are gummies, but mostly I like oil.
CBDMD is one of the sponsors.
They sent me a bunch of their stuff.
It's great.
Squirt it under my tongue.
I just chill out.
It just does something to you where it's not getting you high, but it is giving you this feeling of lightness.
Just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
Just a little relax.
Dave Foley had really fucked up arthritis.
And CBD tincture, CBD oil, completely fixed it.
Just oral CBD. He used to not be able to straighten his fingers out.
Just from a fucking arthritis.
brian redban
Yeah, I used it on my leg when I pulled my sciatica or whatever that shit's called.
And that helped with that, actually.
joe rogan
Dude, I've done that many times.
Sciatica.
brian redban
I've never done that.
That was one of the worst things ever, man.
I couldn't sleep.
joe rogan
You know what it is?
Most of the time, it's an injury in your back.
And it goes down your leg.
But what it is is your back, somewhere in your back.
I'm like an expert on being able to butcher scientific explanations for medical conditions.
But if I was going to do my best to get it right, I would say your disc bulges out and hits the nerve.
And it hurts.
And the way it hurts, it goes down your leg.
So you think like you pulled something in your leg.
But it's really something in your back.
You know, and I was experiencing it really recently, man.
And I went and got, you know what Regenikine is?
I told you about that shit before, right?
They used to do it in Germany.
It was a blood-spinning procedure.
They still do it in Germany, but now they do it in Santa Monica, too.
And it's a blood-spinning procedure that's like platelet-rich plasma, but they put some other stuff in it.
I know we've discussed the science behind it.
Anyway, it's amazing at that, at relaxing all the area around a disc and anything that's bulging sort of goes back in and fixes itself.
It really can happen.
You don't necessarily have to get surgery with a lot of people.
But some people that have your situation or my situation, they get surgery because the disc keeps poking out.
They say, we're just going to cut a piece of that off.
And it can help you.
brian redban
I think mine might be stemming from my bad knee somehow because mine happened right after I injured my knee again the other day.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're probably favoring one side.
brian redban
It's definitely weaker.
The growth hormone, do you still have to go to the dead baby juice?
joe rogan
Stem cells?
brian redban
Stem cells.
Do you still have to go to Mexico for that?
joe rogan
No, you can do it in America, for sure.
And as an added bonus, they'll make it out of your own fat.
brian redban
Oh, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, bro.
They'll lipo you a little bit.
Get them to sculpt you some six-pack.
brian redban
I'm going to have a lot.
I'm going to have a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
So much stem cells.
brian redban
Yeah, I'm going to start selling it.
joe rogan
Let's see you at the store.
You'd be like 150 pounds.
What happened, Red Band?
Stem cells.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I got, for everybody, who needs stem cells?
brian redban
And I didn't even know that you could use plasma.
I always sold plasma.
I didn't know you could keep it and use it for good.
joe rogan
Well, this platelet-rich plasma, again, I'll fuck this up royally if I try to actually explain it, but they take your blood out and they spin it.
And somehow or another, by spinning it, it separates through a centrifuge.
It separates this yellow stuff.
There's the platelets and there's other stuff.
There's significant parts to blood.
So they take this platelet-rich plasma, however the fuck they do this, and the difference between that, like regular PRP and Regenikine, is some other factors.
So they squirt that yellow serum into your back.
It's not cheap.
It's not covered by insurance.
But goddamn, does it work.
It works way better than anything.
Usually, if you have a bulging disc, you're kind of fucked.
You know, because people are like, God damn, what can I do?
And they go, well, exercise, yoga.
There's some things.
They take a long time.
You can slowly get things better.
You can get an epidural.
It'll kill the pain.
Sometimes that helps relax everything.
But this shit fixes it.
brian redban
That'd be a good company to invest in.
You just need a doctor and a machine to do it.
joe rogan
It's a little more complicated than that, Brian.
You need actual scientists, lab technicians.
brian redban
Maybe it's just a machine.
It might be just a spinning machine that takes plasma and makes it like a latte out of it.
joe rogan
Jamie, what were you going to tell me about Epstein right before the show started, but you stopped?
jamie vernon
I was going to tell you this.
brian redban
How are you going to tell me?
unidentified
Something happened?
jamie vernon
I woke up to seeing...
Last night during the Golden Globes was going on, there were some jokes going on by Ricky Gervais that we can probably talk about later, but 60 Minutes was probably going on a different channel at the same time.
And they had a report with some new evidence that nobody has seen yet.
joe rogan
Oh, jeez.
jamie vernon
They have some autopsy photos and photos from inside a cell.
unidentified
Whoa.
brian redban
Yeah, the photo.
joe rogan
Are the photos online?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Of course they are.
brian redban
Yeah, I didn't know this was just released.
I saw this last night, and I saw one of the photos, and it looks real.
jamie vernon
So I watched the 15 minutes that they put together, which is mostly just about, like...
The incident in the cell and surrounding it.
I'm just going to show you the pictures, though, because we can't watch their thing.
Let me try to get the 13 images.
joe rogan
Am I scared?
jamie vernon
No, I mean, it's just...
joe rogan
I'm scared already.
I'm scared already because of Iran.
I don't want to be scared of this video of them whacking this dude.
You know they whacked him.
Yes.
That's a hundred percent.
The fact that they thought they can get away with that, that's so crazy.
Like, that is such a crazy thing to try to get away with.
This gigantic international case.
Hey, what happened to the cameras?
Oh, I'm fucking broke, man.
I don't know.
Sucks.
Got to hang himself.
brian redban
They needed a couple days to make the videos and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
That's the problem with today.
brian redban
These are so fake.
unidentified
He tried to hang himself before.
joe rogan
And they're like, hey, don't do that again.
And he's like, alright, I won't.
Give me my belt.
Give me my shoelaces.
Give me whatever the fuck that guy strangled me with.
brian redban
Yeah, these photos are all fake, right?
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
Hold on.
brian redban
I mean, they're very realistic.
joe rogan
We need Eddie Bravo in here immediately.
jamie vernon
Okay, here we go.
Pull this up here.
So this is from his cell.
This is inside there.
I'll put these up on the screen.
So this is the cell he was in by himself.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
They said he used a bunch of these orange jumpsuits, which I guess were already in there.
joe rogan
He tied them around his head?
jamie vernon
I guess.
There is a little spot way up here on the top of the grate where the window is, where you could see maybe there was something up there.
But the thing to remember here is that he was about 6 foot tall, 185 pounds.
There's one other thing on this ladder here.
There is also some other things I'll get into in just a second that would be easier to use than tying all this shit together.
But they showed...
There's the other thing here was this.
This was about four feet off the ground.
And they do show a noose, which they're saying was what he used.
But as the doctor sort of said, the noose that they show a picture of, which is what you can see in the top right corner here.
joe rogan
Oh, that's Dr. Michael Badden.
That's that guy from the HBO Autography Show.
jamie vernon
For some reason I can't...
I'll find it in a second, but the picture that shows his actual neck...
and it's a little bit lower than it probably should have been.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
jamie vernon
So they're showing some of these other, this is some of the pictures of them.
This is the bone, his jaw, the Hoylio bone.
joe rogan
His jaw was broken?
jamie vernon
Well, there's that fracture that they said wasn't consistent with hanging.
It's more consistent with a murder or homicide.
And he said, this is Baden's words, is that usually he's seen it in maybe like one bone break and sometimes two, but there were three fractures.
And he says like he's almost never seen that in any of his cases he's ever looked over.
joe rogan
Hmm.
And you would think it would be, if you're going to hang yourself from such a short distance, it would be even harder to get a fracture like that, right?
Because you're not like jumping out like in an old western movie.
Like Clint Eastwood movie, where they would hang them, hang them high.
jamie vernon
So the one thing that they also had in here was he left a note.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
jamie vernon
The note said, like, there was, like, four things.
It said, first, it had the name blurred out, but it said this person left him in a shower locked for an hour.
It then said someone else gave him, like, burnt food, and then bugs were crawling over his hands, and then he just wrote, no fun.
But there's a ballpoint pen, like the one I have in my hand, Sitting right next to it.
Like, if you knew he was on suicide watch, you wouldn't give him a ballpoint pen that he could kill himself with.
unidentified
Jamie, you should be a goddamn detective for CSI! This is what they're saying.
jamie vernon
And he had his sleep apnea machine was in there.
You could see an extension cord coming from the hallway into his room that he could have just used that to kill himself and hang himself.
brian redban
Or the nine jumpsuits.
Why does he have nine jumpsuits?
joe rogan
Yeah, the jumpsuit thing is freaky.
Like, they're trying to explain it by bringing in some...
Some new witness.
jamie vernon
So somehow, this is actually a different video that's showing a couple different things than what I saw this morning.
I didn't see this arm thing and I didn't see the picture of his back.
joe rogan
The arm thing looks like an injection spot?
Is that what it looks like?
jamie vernon
I guess so.
Here's the actual, this is what I saw.
Here's the note.
joe rogan
What does it say?
jamie vernon
Sorry.
joe rogan
It's got 60 Minutes get their watermark all over it.
It's so funny.
Sorry, 60 Minutes.
Thank you.
Thanks for getting this.
jamie vernon
So it says, kept me in a locked, it's blurred right here, it says the name is blurred, kept me in a locked shower stall for one hour, neck, or someone, I don't know the name, sent in burnt food, giant bugs, crawled on my hands, and then no fun.
And then they're saying, and then he killed them.
But then this ballpoint pen was next to it, that he could have stabbed himself in the neck or whatever, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to kill yourself with a pen.
Do they get pens?
brian redban
Not usually, but this is like a high-profile case.
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
It's just...
brian redban
Yeah, I don't think you should have a pen.
joe rogan
Look, it's bad to say either way if you don't know.
And I'm guilty of that 100%.
I'm like, that guy didn't kill himself.
I'm talking shit, though.
I'm not talking in terms of like...
We have to understand.
This is really important.
We're doing a podcast.
When you're doing a podcast, you don't have to be factually accurate.
You just have to talk shit.
And hopefully if you fuck up, you correct it, and it's funny.
I'm not a science expert, but when these guys are saying that the guy died by strangulation, there's all these points of consistent strangulation, and it takes forever to get these pictures, and then there's the video cameras didn't work.
And this is the second time he tried to kill himself.
And he's a high-profile witness in a really, really, really important case involving pedophiles at the highest levels of government.
Yeah, I would think that that's the kind of guy you whack.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jamie vernon
You're also, according to the procedure, when there's a suicide there, you're not supposed to remove the body and take it to the emergency room.
You're supposed to treat it as though it was a murder or like a crime scene.
joe rogan
What's crazy is that it's so high profile.
Because this is most likely how they did it forever, right?
Like, people that whack people, they were probably like, you know, I was doing comedy before the internet.
They were probably whacking people before the internet, right?
jamie vernon
Do you want to see?
I found the graphic image.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I'm not scared.
jamie vernon
Don't see if you don't want to see it, Brian.
brian redban
I saw that.
He has a weird texture on his cheek, I thought.
joe rogan
Interesting, Brian.
brian redban
Tell me more.
Like bed marks, almost.
joe rogan
I think that's just the blood rushing to his head.
Bro, that guy got strangled.
That looks like a strangled guy.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
That's what I thought.
joe rogan
But the thing is like...
jamie vernon
There's no blood on that noose that they said was the noose that did it.
joe rogan
But there's blood on his body.
jamie vernon
And there's no pictures of him in the cell.
They didn't take any pictures of that.
joe rogan
Wait, hold on.
There's no blood on the noose they said killed him, but yet there's blood on his neck?
jamie vernon
Correct.
That was pointed out by the reporter.
Well, that's insane.
joe rogan
That's insane.
That's impossible.
Did they really do a test of the rope that they supposedly said hung him?
jamie vernon
Just show a picture of it, and it looks very clean and unused.
joe rogan
Well, it is orange.
Maybe the red doesn't show up that clean on orange.
Can we look at it again?
jamie vernon
I think we should probably...
joe rogan
Look, I want to say for sure they killed him.
jamie vernon
And the lawyer she's talking to in the piece is his former cellmate's lawyer.
And he's just, eh, no, it's obviously...
joe rogan
Bro, the former cellmate is my favorite part of the story.
A gigantic ex-cop who's a murderer and a drug dealer.
And he's fucking huge!
He's a gorilla.
A straight-up gorilla.
A big Italian gorilla.
And they put him in jail with that guy?
Come on, man.
They probably...
Oh, come on!
Look at his neck!
Okay, so they're examining the thing.
This is Dr. Michael Batten from HBO. And he's examining the thing that was supposedly used to kill him, and he's saying there's nothing on it.
And he's showing the actual lacerations around the neck that show clear blood.
And he said it's too low on the neck, too?
jamie vernon
That's her postulation right here.
She says if he did what you thought, which would have been like leaning forward on the ground, that it probably would have been a little higher under the jaw, not down at the base of the neck, kind of, but it's a little bit tough to say.
joe rogan
I would imagine if you're killing somebody like that, they're trying to get away.
People that are trying to get away do that.
If you're killing him from behind, if that guy's holding him down...
Oh, come on, man.
Look at his neck.
jamie vernon
Hmm.
joe rogan
Hold on, though.
Is any of that actually breaking the skin?
The thing is, it looks like a wire.
It looks like a wire to me.
brian redban
It does look like a wire.
jamie vernon
That's right.
It looks way too thin to be that thick cloth noose.
joe rogan
I mean, maybe that thick noose thing is really strong fabric, but that looks like a wire to me, man.
But wouldn't that wire just slice right into your neck, too?
brian redban
Yeah, it looks like that's more like blood rising to the skin than an actual cut.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
It looked before though like it was a cut.
So maybe there wasn't really that much blood.
That actually came through the skin.
And maybe all that cloth, maybe it's really thin and it gets down like a wire.
If you choke somebody with a bandana, you had one of them bandanas that hippies put on their dogs, and you choke someone to death with one of those things, I kind of think it's going to make a very small mark.
I don't think it's going to make a thick mark.
If you like...
Got someone in like an Ezekiel choke is one of those things and fucking...
brian redban
Yeah, that's a strong...
joe rogan
It would get thin, like where it was choking you.
Like the actual...
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Would that make a mark like that?
jamie vernon
I'm sure someone now is going to go start myth-busting like what it looks like if you do do that test and like...
joe rogan
They have to murder someone to find out if it's true.
Just get another piece of shit.
jamie vernon
So we'll find out later today, I'm sure.
joe rogan
The whole thing is so strange, man.
It's so public.
The idea that a guy actually had a fuck island.
jamie vernon
That's what Ricky Gervais was joking about last night.
brian redban
Did you watch that?
joe rogan
Of course he was.
No, but I did see the one clip that somebody put on the internet about him saying, don't virtue signal, just come out here and get your little prize, go fuck off, because nobody cares about your opinion.
I was like, thank you.
Thank you, Ricky.
Thank you.
Thank God.
That guy swings.
He's out there swinging from the hip.
Chin up.
Doesn't give a fuck.
Telling it like it is.
I love it.
brian redban
He went after Apple in front of Tim Cook.
joe rogan
How crazy was that shit?
He went after Apple, then he said if ISIS opened up a studio, you'll all be sending your resumes.
Is that what he said?
jamie vernon
Yeah, you'd all be like a streaming service.
You'll be contacting your agents or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what he said.
Like, fuck, man.
Good for him.
jamie vernon
So those are all pre-written, right?
Because they had to have those cuts ready to go.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
He's so badass.
He might be able to do whatever the fuck he wants.
You know, he's Ricky Gervais.
He's got the ability to probably say, oh, I'll do it.
But I'll do it this way.
And only this way.
And they're like, okay, Ricky, we love you.
We love you.
We know you wouldn't do anything to jeopardize our amazing organization.
We all love working with you here at the Golden Globes.
And it's fun.
I mean, you stir people up.
But everybody knows you're a good guy.
And then he goes and hits them with genocide talking.
unidentified
Like, hey, hey, hey!
joe rogan
Apple must have been so pissed!
We were just getting away with using all that slave labor and no one even noticed!
That's, I mean, it's another thing, like this murder, right?
It's like, that's just how everything was done.
That's just how everything was done.
That's how they whacked everybody.
And that was how you got things built cheap.
They used slave labor, but nobody knew.
Nobody really understood until you saw things like Foxconn.
You were like, wait a minute, this is a good setup?
You guys are working 16 hours a day, you sleep in the building?
This is a good place?
This is good?
jamie vernon
The story of Amazon workers running around and peeing themselves.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
They have some crazy countdown thing that goes when they get an order and they have to run to go get it.
Probably a fun job if you're into losing weight.
Put on some ankle weights and shit, maybe a weight vest, and just run around that thing.
You'd get a fucking vicious workout.
That's making lemonades out of lemons.
brian redban
That's right, Joe.
Everything's a workout.
You could be working as a waiter at Applebee's and that's a workout.
joe rogan
That's right.
Think about it, man.
With heavy weights around your waist that no one would notice, you could have a good workout while you're working.
The Apple thing, that had to sting.
brian redban
Well, he was sitting right there, too, and they showed him right before he started saying it.
unidentified
What exactly did he say?
brian redban
Something about using sweatshops and stuff like that right in front of him.
But, I mean, Foxconn, it's a sweatshop, but it's probably the best version of a sweatshop.
It's a real company, and it's...
joe rogan
The best version of a sweatshop is hilarious.
brian redban
Foxconn works in the United States now, don't they?
joe rogan
Do they?
brian redban
Yeah, I think they're about to have companies here in the United States.
joe rogan
I remember, this is something that Trump had talked about, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
On top of the annual, Gervais ended his monologue by telling the nominees, so if you do win an award tonight, don't use it as a political platform to make a political speech.
You're in no position to lecture the public about anything.
You know nothing about the real world.
Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg.
So if you win, come up, accept your little award, thank your agent and your God, and fuck off, okay?
Oh, the swear was beeped out by NBC. He was also beeped for his use of profanity in two other jokes.
One where he called cats James Corden a fat pussy.
And another where he discussed the same films Judy Dench licking her ass.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
The comedian, however, also peppered the monologue with references to Me Too and contemporary issues.
He started off by noting it was his fifth time hosting, and therefore he didn't care what flack he would take.
Then he punched in with a nod to last year's college admission scandal.
I came here in a limo tonight, and the license plate was made by Felicity Huffman.
Good for him.
He's a real comic.
brian redban
He doesn't have the Apple quote.
joe rogan
He's a real comic.
That's a...
Look.
Right down.
brian redban
Yeah, down a little.
joe rogan
It said a little lower than that.
Apple TV. Yeah.
While discussing the addition of Apple TV Plus to the room, Gervais noted the irony of a Me Too-themed show like The Morning Show being made by a company who runs sweatshops in China.
You say you're woke, but if ICE has started a streaming service, you'd call your agent.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're gonna get this right, folks.
I really believe this.
brian redban
Good for you.
joe rogan
This is what we were talking about earlier, about everything being bad.
I don't think it is.
I think it's just a lot of noise.
There's a lot of noise.
A lot of people yelling.
brian redban
It's swinging back around already.
joe rogan
It's swinging back around.
We're human.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, we have weird things.
Everything's changed.
It's all changed now.
Everything's changed.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Relax.
We're okay.
We're gonna be alright.
The world's fucked!
We're fucked!
It's all ending!
I'm a little nervous about Iran, though.
That seems like real shit.
That makes me want to get educated on the subject so I can really freak out.
brian redban
The one thing that made me feel better is when they were screaming, death to America, death to America, recently, the president of Iran was like, well, when we say death to America, we don't mean the citizens.
We like the citizens.
We're talking about, fuck you, Donald Trump, you know.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They've been saying that for a long time.
That death to America chant, that's been around.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
That's a tough sell.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We know what you're saying.
You're saying death to America.
Okay, like, that's one thing that you don't want to be misconstrued.
If you want to fucking make signs and yell, like, you don't, like, you're like, hey, hey, we're not talking death, death, guys, right?
Oh, yeah, definitely not death, death.
Let's go out and scream, death to America.
Everyone's going to know.
Like, that would be the worst way to communicate something.
Like, why, if you don't really think that.
Why would you say death to the American political system?
Death to the American military complex?
Not death to America.
Death to America is everybody.
How they got us all mixed?
We don't have nothing to do with this, guys.
We're just over here chilling.
How they got us messed up in some international conflict that you actually have to think about might come a-knocking on your door.
What fucking ineptitude mixed with scumbaggery led us to this position?
Who did this?
Is it the Iranian guys?
Did Trump do something he shouldn't have done?
brian redban
Doesn't it seem weird timing, though, with this whole impeachment shit?
joe rogan
It's all weird, dude.
It's all weird.
The fact that Trump can kill people.
Just understand how crazy it is that you got a guy like Trump who could just go, send it in, send the missile, just shoot missiles.
He could just...
Listen, man, don't give me that power either.
Don't give anybody that power, for sure.
But a guy like Trump...
A guy who's famous for being mean to people on a reality show?
You're fired!
Famous for being a baller?
I mean, that's what he's famous for.
That's the crazy thing.
He was in rap songs all the time in a complimentary way.
That guy's life has gone through an arch.
Home Alone 2. He was in Home Alone 2. And in Canada, those silly fucks, they edited it out.
The CBC edited out the Donald Trump scene because it's offensive.
unidentified
Offensive to us who really enjoy films without monsters.
joe rogan
That's history.
Are you going to go into fucking Naked Gun and get rid of OJ? What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
You going to take O.J. out of the NFL archives?
What are you going to do?
No, this is life.
You can't make life prettier by pulling Donald Trump out of Home Alone.
You're supposed to look at it and go, holy shit!
Who would have thought that fucking guy would be the president one day and be killing dudes?
And maybe starting World War III. Like a goddamn Stephen King novel.
You know, Stephen King's freaked out by Trump.
Mmm.
These media posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any US person or target, the United States will click quickly and fully strike back, and perhaps in a disproportionate manner.
Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless.
Dude, fuck this.
That I don't like to see on Twitter.
That seems so bizarre.
That almost seems like the simulation theory has hired comedy writers to come in and subtly fuck with everybody.
That he can just put that on Twitter?
How can he just put that on Twitter?
Like, I thought there was a series of checks and balances.
You know?
I mean, this is ultimately, like, one guy can have, like, an instantaneous press conference anytime he wants, just by putting something on Twitter.
And then there's all these people that go, you gotta ban him for Twitter.
But here's the problem.
You ban him from Twitter, Gab is gonna, he'll go to Gab, right?
If he goes to Gab, Gab will all of a sudden skyrocket, because everyone's gonna want to go to Gab to see Trump talk shit on Gab, where it's full freedom of speech.
What if he starts swearing on Gab?
What if they make a deal with him?
What if they give him 50% of Gab?
Because they think it's imminent because of this war we're in with Iran.
This could be a movie where they're going to ban him from Twitter.
And Vidya and Jack Dorsey has to leave.
He's in a meditation, a silent meditation in fucking Bali.
And he has to fly in and he has to figure out whether or not they can make this executive decision to ban Trump.
But everybody's calling for it.
Ban Trump!
Ban Trump!
Ban him!
Ban him!
And if they banned him off Twitter.
Imagine if you went to the thing and the page said banned.
You would just open up your windows and hear liberals cheering.
Like King Kong just fell off the Empire State Building.
Yes!
He's fucking banned!
The YouTube videos would be spectacular.
Do you know how many virtue-signaling dipshits would have YouTube videos just screaming and pumping their fists in the air and pointing to the screen with Donald Trump and says, owned?
You know how many?
It would be hilarious.
And all he would have to do is do that and go over somewhere else, and that new platform would be fucking gigantic.
Because everybody would want to know what he says.
And if he says it over there, everybody else would just retweet it on Twitter anyway.
It would probably be like killing coyotes.
You know how you kill coyotes and then they make more coyotes?
Like a female, when they shout out.
That's like a roll call.
And if someone's missing, the female makes more babies.
That's one of the craziest things about coyotes.
That's why they're everywhere.
That's what would happen with Trump.
If they banned him off Twitter, his signal would be bigger than ever.
It would be fucking bonkers.
Like, they're in a precarious situation now, too.
Because these social media companies, they're being labeled as someone who would ban freedom of speech from certain people if they don't believe with their ideas.
Now, if this happens to be the president, That they say you can't have freedom of speech on our platform anymore.
Then everything is like out the window.
Like, what is this?
What are we doing?
And then if it backfires and Twitter loses all of its power and some other fucking company comes along and takes the spot, some company that promises to never do that to the president, let people express themselves but explain, perhaps, through a fucking series of checks and balances, why you can't stalk somebody or be mean to somebody or...
Does this make any sense?
jamie vernon
Is it about him being on the most popular platform?
Because he could do radio.
joe rogan
He could do anything he wants.
jamie vernon
But is it no one paying attention to the radio or the TV things that he does and everyone pays attention to his tweets?
joe rogan
Well, it's interesting because he's got to think.
He's a guy that, obviously, he does a lot of business deals.
And he does a lot of deals simultaneously.
It's the only way he can have as many properties as he has.
He's got Trump Towers everywhere.
He's got them in Vegas and Chicago and all over the world.
He's got to be a guy that's always thinking about doing the next thing.
And if he was, you would think he's setting himself up as a business.
It's like he's a business.
He's now not just the president, and he's always been a business.
He's always been a celebrity and an iconic financial character.
But now, his entertainment, like what he says about life and everything, is fucking super valuable.
If Trump had that show...
If he decides to have a podcast, do you know how goddamn crazy it would be?
If Donald Trump just pulls up, has a YouTube channel, talks into the camera, says what he really thinks about everything.
They release it as a podcast as well.
And no one can stop him, because that's freedom of speech.
Because freedom of speech is to let this guy talk.
Do you know if he started threatening people, like threatening Iran from his YouTube channel?
Like, what the fuck?
Imagine if World War III is caused by a tweet.
Imagine if Trump threatens someone, and they retaliate to show they're not scared, and we nuked them.
And then, oh.
My.
God.
From a Trump tweet.
Is that possible?
Seems like anything is possible.
brian redban
He's probably going to do it right at the end, too.
joe rogan
The end is a weird one, right?
Is it going to be a few months from now, or is it going to be four years from now?
brian redban
That's with all this Iran thing.
It might happen faster.
I didn't think it was going to happen at all, but now maybe this Iran thing...
joe rogan
The impeachment thing?
brian redban
Yeah.
Maybe this is for a purpose.
joe rogan
He's not going to just go.
That's the thing.
And there's a lot of people that don't want him to go.
The Republicans don't want to lose power.
And they're very smart in that even ones that were never Trumpers at one point in time, they've accepted him.
He's a fascinating guy.
He's a fascinating human character.
If you look at him in terms of like...
unidentified
Just his...
joe rogan
Go back to that photo that we're just looking at.
Let me see that in big time.
He's a fascinating character, man.
And he's also a very strong guy in a lot of ways, like mentally strong in terms of what he's been able to accomplish, all the business deals, always believes in himself.
There's something about that that gets other people and they sort of like, they get a little ass kissy around them.
And they want him to like them.
Because if he doesn't like you, it's devastating.
If Trump goes after you on Twitter and gets mad at you, it's devastating.
So they all want him to like him.
So look at them all reaching for him.
That's a painting one day that they'll have on the caves.
They'll cave paint that.
After World War III, after we get nuked into the fucking Stone Age, they'll cave paint how a guy...
Figured out how to be just mean enough, but just nice enough, and have all these people like him, and literally be able to kill someone with the press of a button.
And then everybody wants to touch him.
Like, look at that.
They're reaching for him.
They're reaching.
Look at the guy in the back.
They're all reaching.
brian redban
It's like a Michelangelo painting.
joe rogan
Bro, it is!
And that this guy somehow got into this crazy position from hosting a reality show and getting really famous by telling people they're fired.
And now all of a sudden, he's deciding whether or not they can nuke generals into another dimension from a robot that flies.
And just shoots missiles.
And the missiles are called Hellfire missiles.
jamie vernon
Did you hear that new, I think Russia has it, that super sign goes Mach 27?
joe rogan
Oh Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
They drop it from space and it just like roller coasters itself in and like we don't, I guess we don't have a thing to stop it yet.
It's 27 times the speed of sound.
unidentified
Oh Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
This is the Space Wars shit.
This is why Trump wanted to have a Space Force.
When I heard about a Space Force I was like, what are you, what are you doing man?
Space Force.
But here's the other thing.
When you're 74, whatever he is, Do you realize you're 74?
Are you just alive?
I think you're just alive.
Especially if you're on diet pills.
Then I think you're really just alive.
You're out there.
You're just fucking grinding.
You're just like grinding because that's how you do it.
You just go out there and you kick ass.
He's not thinking about riding off into the sunset.
He's not thinking about any of that shit.
But people, we think that way.
When we see someone at 74, we're like, oh, by the time he's 78, he's going to want out.
He's not going to want out.
He's not gonna want out.
He's alive.
Is he alive?
Yeah, he's gonna keep going.
Especially if you're stimulated.
If you're artificially stimulated.
You know?
I mean, I'm talking right now while I'm drinking coffee.
That's why I'm so excited.
brian redban
Is he TikTok-ing yet?
joe rogan
I hope he does.
brian redban
I hope.
That'd be great.
My first TikTok was almost 3 million in 24 hours.
joe rogan
Jamie says they fuck with the numbers.
brian redban
Yeah, they have to, right?
But my comments were in the thousands, though.
But maybe those are all robots, spam robots.
joe rogan
Well, they're obviously working overtime to try to get it big, and a lot of people are jumping on board.
Kevin Hart just got on board.
That's a big acquisition.
brian redban
I can't do it, man.
joe rogan
And The Rock.
The Rock got on board.
That's another big acquisition.
I took all my social media and I put it in a folder that says Addict.
I put it on my last page, my iPhone, and I got a smaller iPhone.
unidentified
Oh, you did?
brian redban
Which one did you get?
unidentified
I got the little one.
brian redban
Yeah, that one's better.
joe rogan
The regular one.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
There was an article in New York Times this weekend that TikTok groups are taking over the YouTubers of Hollywood and moving into mansions and like...
joe rogan
Imagine.
jamie vernon
Whatever they're...
I don't know.
I don't know how that works.
joe rogan
Imagine.
How are they making all this money?
I don't understand it, but imagine.
A TikTok president.
This is our first TikTok president.
Maybe it could be you, dude.
brian redban
What?
No.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Could be.
brian redban
We could make that happen, I think.
What if it was the whole staff of Shark Tank?
That would be a good idea.
joe rogan
That they would be the presidents?
brian redban
Yeah, but they all work together.
joe rogan
Not a bad idea, right?
I think a bunch of successful, reasonable people, and I don't mean successful financially even, just scholars.
Maybe even business people and scholars mixed together.
Like, that would be the right way to run the country.
Like, a committee.
Where you could see the way they interact with each other in real time so everybody would have access to all the communication.
Unless it's anything to do with, like, national security.
You know, I mean, obviously they can't let everybody know that they're going to bomb that guy in Iran.
You know, they can't do that.
But it would be really interesting if, like...
Policy issues, economic issues, if all those things were discussed publicly, like if you saw these guys, like if you saw the guy who is, you know, one of the 10 people who is the president, right?
And you saw them all present evidence and they all go over the work and they look at it.
This is what it's projected if we don't cut carbon emissions.
This is what we know and this is the hyperbole.
This is the clickbait that you hear.
This is the reality of it.
And this is where we're at now.
And here's our possible solutions.
And we'd all just sit around and look at the budget even.
Say, okay, we're going to put...
X amount of billion to this, and Y amount of billion to that, and then we're going to put a significant amount, and we can go, wait, why are they doing it that way?
Like everything else, right?
The internet has allowed people to communicate and bitch and piss and moan about everything else, but not really on the inner works of government.
They're still doing it in these rooms.
They're still doing it tucked away.
You can watch some of it on CNN, but some of it you don't get to see.
unidentified
It's all tucked away.
joe rogan
National security, national interests.
Secrecy.
So, I mean, you give people the option to have stuff like that, like gigantic worldwide decisions that are made by a handful of people.
That is kind of crazy.
It's kind of crazy that someone, whether it's Trump or anybody, could make that decision.
This might throw us into nuclear war, but we're going to let these motherfuckers know what's up.
Let's take a rocket and kill that fucking guy.
You want to do it?
Let's do it.
Let's fucking kill that guy.
The fact that you can do that...
How many people do you think were involved in the decision to kill that Iranian guy?
jamie vernon
I read that it was there's some sort of like PowerPoint presentation given to Trump and it was the last slide was like this is our option another option is doing this and they like unexpectedly he picked that yeah there was like he picked the craziest one like the killing I don't know what different levels I'll take the Adderall option for 10 Alex wow see that's what's crazy so that's one person that's even more crazy like one person gets to make that call We always thought there
joe rogan
was so many checks and balances.
This is what I kept hearing from reasonable people like Brian Callen.
He won't be able to get anything done.
Once he gets in there, it's just like there's so many systems and checks and balances.
This is the reason why the Founding Fathers were so smart in the way they set up the Constitution and set up our government.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
If he can fucking start World War III, if he can do that and that starts World War III, yeah, they missed that part.
You fucked up.
You missed the Twitter part, too.
brian redban
Twitter part.
They're going to have to change that right after him, right?
Oh, and we're adding no Twitter.
joe rogan
No Twitter.
brian redban
Mild TikTok use.
jamie vernon
You saw this crazy.
I feel like this is in some way related.
joe rogan
Kevin Spacey?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this crazy video he put on his YouTube channel.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he keeps doing that character.
brian redban
People keep on dying.
unidentified
Bro, that's a little creepy too.
joe rogan
Right, but how did a guy die?
Suicide?
Was it suicide?
jamie vernon
Suicided?
brian redban
Did you see the list of how many people have died?
joe rogan
What, that were involved with Kevin Spacey?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, is there a lot?
brian redban
Yeah, there's like three or four or something like that.
jamie vernon
All those accusers, I think.
joe rogan
Imagine if it's the actor from Game, from House of Cards, the actor that was his assistant that killed people for him.
Imagine if Doug, the guy is so deep into his character that he goes out and whacks because it was the best role he ever got.
brian redban
I could see that.
joe rogan
Do you think Kevin Spacey would get pissed if we play this?
jamie vernon
Maybe.
Just like Maxwell is going to show up in his next one, I feel like.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
Just like they're hanging out somewhere.
joe rogan
But it's so strange that he's doing it like this.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, this is a character.
brian redban
Look, he's rustling the fire for the reason.
joe rogan
I know what you're thinking.
unidentified
Dead serious.
And it's not that hard, trust me.
The next time someone does something you don't like, you can go on the attack, but you can also hold your fire and do the unexpected.
You can kill them with kindness.
brian redban
What the fuck?
joe rogan
He says this and then the guy commits suicide.
Bro!
What is this world?
Imagine if he threatens everybody and starts getting jobs again.
People are like, I don't know how he's doing it, but everybody's dying.
Let's just hire him, man.
House of Cards would be fucking huge.
Just hear me out.
Season 9. We never showed that he was dead.
We never showed that he was dead.
The last season, when they had no him, I was like, what are you doing?
Okay?
What the fuck are you doing?
What are you doing here?
What did you do to my show?
This ain't my show.
This is like, oh my god, everybody's watching us.
That's what the show was now.
Oh my god, everybody's watching everything we do.
Oh my god.
Now what do we do?
That show seemed so, like, nervous, didn't it?
The first episode, it was like they didn't have a regular House of Cards episode.
It was like everything was a little bit barely glued together.
jamie vernon
They try to figure out how to say how he was gone or whatever too, right?
joe rogan
I wonder if they were reluctant.
I wonder if they're like, just keep on the show.
There are not many people who watch.
They'll apologize.
jamie vernon
They didn't have to refilm like they did that other movie.
They didn't even start yet, right?
Do you remember?
Because there was a movie they made where they had to go back and shoot with somebody else that he was in.
joe rogan
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
They never reshoot it.
He was great in Baby Driver.
He's a great actor, man.
He's just a crazy fuck that grabs dicks.
The one guy that died, though, one of the reasons why, I mean, I'm not really that, I don't think that this would warrant a murder.
All they did was, they were hanging out, and he said, Kevin Spacey reached down and grabbed his junk and said, let's go get some air.
And he got mad and said, no, what the fuck, but do you think someone, I mean, would that be a reason why Kevin Spacey would kill you for saying that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, how many people is he going to kill?
Do you think he killed people?
What do you think?
I want to know your honest opinion.
brian redban
What if he always killed people?
joe rogan
Kevin Spacey settles assault lawsuit following death of accuser.
jamie vernon
That was one week after that video was posted.
joe rogan
Whoa.
He settled it.
brian redban
Now, I think Sam Tripoli or somebody posted a list of all the people, and there was like four or five people.
joe rogan
Tripoli might have added.
brian redban
Yeah, I mean...
One was...
joe rogan
Tripoli loves it.
Tripoli's in his glory.
But look, this is a real...
All this shit that's happening is a real...
It's a good time to be a conspiracy theorist.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's a few of them that aren't ridiculous.
There's some juicy ones right now.
Like, fuck this Jack Ruby shit.
Let that one go.
We don't know, folks.
We're never going to know.
But I'll tell you what.
We got one in front of us right now that rivals that.
We've got quite a few of them.
And how about the first British astronaut?
She's the first woman in space, I think, from Britain, too.
I think.
I might be wrong about that.
But she was talking about aliens, that aliens definitely exist.
They're definitely out there.
Astronauts.
Aliens definitely exist, and they could be living among us on Earth, says Britain's first astronaut.
Powerful Britain, first astronauts to chick.
All those dudes over there just must have been too polite.
Let her get the gig.
brian redban
Wow.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good for her.
That's a badass move, to be the first astronaut who's a woman from a country.
Like, that bitch runs shit.
Right?
You gotta be powerful.
Because think about how many British dudes are in, like, Space Force, whatever the fuck they have over there.
What do they have?
They have the SS people?
No, it's not SS. That's the Nazis.
What do they have?
MI6? But they have an S-something.
What do they have?
What's their version of the CIA? Well, now I'm thinking James Bond.
jamie vernon
That's the MI6, I think.
joe rogan
But I think there's a thing.
MI5? They have something.
jamie vernon
Secret Service and SIS? That's what it is.
joe rogan
SIS. That's what it is.
I'm saying SS. I'm like, no, they're not Nazis.
unidentified
Don't...
joe rogan
Fuck, you're ruining it again.
jamie vernon
Well, it's the same thing as MI6. Is it?
Same thing, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, think about all those people that they must have had in their Air Force.
All the men.
And then a woman gets to be the first person in space.
That's pretty badass.
Or somebody wanted a woman to be the first person in space...
And they made sure.
That's possible.
I don't know, though.
But if it's the former, I like to think positive.
I like to think she kicked everybody's ass.
Became the first woman in space.
That's gotta be a trippy, trippy fucking thing.
First person from a nation to be launched into the gases above our head and to see the blackness.
The blackness of no atmosphere.
brian redban
She was just the first British woman, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I was thinking the first British person.
That's what it said, right?
brian redban
I was always more of that challenger chick.
joe rogan
Oh, the teacher, man.
I remember that.
I remember watching that at a girlfriend's house.
brian redban
Good hair.
joe rogan
I went to visit her.
She lived in western Massachusetts.
Had a drive all the way out there.
I think it was a couple hours.
And in the morning, I watched it on television after the fact.
I wasn't awake when it actually happened.
I watched it after I woke up.
I remember seeing that thing blow up.
brian redban
Yeah.
We watched it with our whole fifth grade class, our whole school when I was in fifth grade.
joe rogan
Is that her?
jamie vernon
Sally Ride.
joe rogan
That's the woman?
jamie vernon
Yep.
joe rogan
But that's not the school teacher.
brian redban
That's not the girl from Challenger, right?
joe rogan
She died.
She was an astronaut.
The girl who was a schoolteacher, there was a woman who they brought on board who was just a schoolteacher, and that was like the big...
It's a weird thing, right?
It's okay if certain people die, but a schoolteacher dying made it way worse.
brian redban
Yeah, she had more of a perm.
joe rogan
How do you say that?
Krista McAuliffe?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When that lady died, everybody was like, oh, man...
But if it was like all astronauts, just like all dudes who wear aviator-smeared sunglasses or hard-ass fucking chiseled faces, we'd feel bad, but we wouldn't feel as bad.
You know what I mean?
brian redban
Yeah, I felt bad.
That was like our first 9-11, I think, when that happened.
joe rogan
It was a minor 9-11 in terms of the amount of death, but in terms of the shock that it had on our system.
Yeah, because I think we all thought that we were going to space, and that this was like Space 1999 was going to turn out to be right.
Because that was, what is that?
I graduated in Newton South, class of 85. So that was the year after that.
It was 86. Bro.
Yeah, we thought we were all going to be in space.
We thought that they retired the Apollo program, and they just started doing the shuttles, and really they're just ramping up the infrastructure of space, and eventually we're going to be living on the moon.
No problem.
brian redban
I remember when they said they were retiring the Challengers and all the shuttles a couple years ago.
I was like, what?
No!
That was sad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then Elon Musk has got some crazy fucking spaceship he's trying to shoot people in the atmosphere with.
brian redban
He's going to be in charge of Space Force.
That's the guy.
joe rogan
He's going to be in charge of everything, man.
But it's interesting, you know, he was, people forget, he was a part of something in the Trump administration when it first happened.
When Trump first got in office and he left when Trump backed out of the Paris Accord, the climate accord.
That was the case, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's like a group of business people that I think they all left together or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One guy has a lot of power, man.
jamie vernon
Updated news on another story?
joe rogan
Harvey Weinstein indicted on new sex crimes in Los Angeles.
jamie vernon
He just went on trial today in New York on his other charges.
These new charges just dropped in an hour ago.
joe rogan
Jesus.
brian redban
What kind of sex crimes?
joe rogan
Sexual assault charges.
One woman sexually assaulting another.
Separate incidents over a two-day period in 2013. They allegedly raped a woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Okay, so he still has charges against him.
I thought for some reason all his charges have been...
jamie vernon
Oh, no, yeah, he's on trial in New York, and this is a separate thing here.
joe rogan
You know what they should do with him?
They should get him.
They said, listen, we're willing to be more lenient on you, but we want to get you in a room just clad in a jumpsuit, and we're going to give you a high dose of MDMA. And we're just going to talk to you, Harvey, about how you feel about people, and why you lash out, and how did this all get started?
What's true and what's not true?
What did you do to people?
And what did people willingly do?
And is that the same thing?
That's where it gets weird.
It's like, sex as a transaction is one of the weirder things about people, is that you can do that.
Like, It's almost like everyone's a drug dealer.
Right?
Like, if someone wants to fuck you, the drug is sex.
Like, that feeling of sex.
People love it.
They love it.
Everybody loves it.
So if someone knew that other people love it, and they can get something to let those other people do it, and we go, no, you can't.
You can't.
Why can't you?
But you're doing it anyway just by virtue of your looks, right?
If you're just trying to be successful on being good looking in a lot of ways, it's like the entry level of that game.
Like, you're doing, you're looking good so that people give you things.
You're looking good so that people pay you if you want to be like a professional hot chick or a model or, you know, you're looking good and then people pay you because you're looking good.
And we're all like, we have no problem with that.
Everyone feels no problem with that.
But if you go and do that and then use your body...
Say, I like looking good because I can get things, but if I use my body, I get more things, so I've been using my body.
Word, you can't use your body.
You can't.
What is that?
We can't.
Imagine.
If gold diggers, it was encouraged, and guys liked it too, and they're like a bunch of old dudes that didn't care, and it was all free on the internet, like everybody would give out information, you just, I'll take care of your rent, come over here and suck this Johnson!
If we just made deals, like transactional deals, keep it clean.
brian redban
That's pretty much what girls do.
joe rogan
But you can't do it legally.
My point is like...
brian redban
Well, you can't do webcam stuff.
joe rogan
There's so many lazy girls out there that don't want to take a job.
If they can get $2,000 for blowing some old dude, they'd be in on that.
jamie vernon
In a heartbeat.
joe rogan
Nothing wrong with that, though.
That's my position.
Nothing wrong with that.
brian redban
Do you think we'll see that legal soon?
That should be something soon.
joe rogan
Nobody wants their daughter to be a whore.
What the fuck are you talking about?
But it's one of those things.
It's a hypocritical even – of course, it should be legal.
Everything should be legal.
Of course, you don't want your daughter to be a hooker.
But of course, everything should be legal that doesn't – see, if it's illegal, people are still going to want it.
So if they're going to want it, then you're going to get it where it's illegal.
And you're going to get criminals, people that can go to jail.
They're going to be the ones that are providing these girls with protection.
They're going to be the ones that also dictate how much money the girls make and how much money they take.
And we all know what happens there.
I mean, that's Pimp 101. We've all seen pimps up, hoes down, right?
And the other one, American Pimp, was that the other one?
That was a great one, too.
If it was legal, these girls would be protected.
They'd probably have the exact same amount of people that were paying for it.
Actually, more would pay for it, for sure.
If it became legal, what am I talking about?
jamie vernon
That spot next to the comedy store used to be a brothel.
Imagine if it still was.
joe rogan
What, Katana?
Katana was a brothel?
jamie vernon
They watched that Sunset Strip documentary.
No!
I think maybe back in the 30s, probably.
It was a while ago.
unidentified
That's why it's so beautiful.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful place.
brian redban
It smells good.
joe rogan
Can you imagine what it was like back then?
People just, like Bugsy Siegel, they owned the comedy store.
You know?
Right?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was Bugsy Siegel's place.
Can you imagine?
People just got whacked back then.
Shut the fuck up.
Everyone had a shovel in their trunk.
brian redban
The old photos of the stars and stuff that would go to that are just insane.
joe rogan
Insane.
Yeah, and that weird peep thing where you can look down from the green room and see onto the stage.
So strange.
The fact that Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis were looking through there.
Fucking mob, man.
The government is kind of a mob.
I mean, it's an elected mob, but it's kind of a mob, you know?
Especially when you see people like Julian Assange, where you're like, wait, wait, wait, what are you doing to him?
Why are you doing that to him?
What did he do exactly?
What happened there?
He apparently got hacked.
A lot of people said that he put out unredacted names.
Apparently what I heard or what I read was that that wasn't the case, that he put out The stuff with redacted names, but someone got a hold of the original copy of it.
And they released it.
Mexican president calls for Julian Assange's freedom.
Oh shit, it's going down.
Trump wants to talk some shit.
Julian Assange in Mexico with Pamela Anderson on the beach doing YouTube.
unidentified
I called it.
joe rogan
I called it now.
jamie vernon
Slow-mo run.
joe rogan
Dude, together, holding hands, talking about the future.
Greta Thornburg adopts them.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Let them out.
Bring them to fucking Punta Mita, bro.
Puerto Vallarta.
brian redban
Do you ever travel to Mexico?
joe rogan
I love Mexico.
brian redban
What's your favorite part?
joe rogan
Puerto Vallarta.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I love it there.
You know what else is dope is Chichen Itza.
That's the Mayan ruins in the Yucatan.
Fuck, man.
That was one where I was walking around and going, what?
unidentified
Who?
How?
joe rogan
What were you guys like?
You guys built giant, huge stone structures that mimic the cosmos.
You had specific rooms that were designed for LSD use.
At least according to my guide, he was saying that they had some plant that had lysergic acid in it.
There's a bunch of different plants.
What do they get them from?
Morning Glory Seeds.
Morning Glory Seeds, apparently, you can get acid from.
And they would take whatever this...
They don't know exactly what the substance was.
They would trip balls.
But he showed me all these different places where they did, like, human sacrifice, where they had this game.
And the game...
What was really crazy was he was...
That's the human sacrifice spot.
They would put people right on that spot and cut their fucking heart out.
unidentified
Hollow.
joe rogan
And look at the dude.
The dude's face that you would kill someone on.
Like, it's so creepy.
Imagine they're pulling you over there and laying you down on that fucking thing to cut your heart out.
unidentified
Fuck no.
joe rogan
That was a weird thing that people used to like to do.
Human sacrifice.
You know, like, do you know about the Mexican pyramid?
The Aztec pyramid of, I think you say Teotacan?
Do you know how to say that?
Teotacan?
Teotihuacan?
See if we can get an audio so we can listen to how you're pronouncing that word.
But that temple, when they built it, afterwards they slaughtered all of the slaves.
How do you say that?
Here we go.
Talk to a professor.
How do you pronounce?
Here we go.
Give me it.
unidentified
Teotihuacan.
joe rogan
Damn, what a dope language.
What a dope language.
unidentified
Teotihuacan.
joe rogan
People just like, when they believed in magic, they had cooler ways of describing things.
unidentified
Teotihuacan.
joe rogan
I mean, how are you like, stop and look at that word.
How are you living 10,000 years ago, barely scraping by, and you have the time to come up with that many words, like that many sounds for one word.
Teotihuacan.
You know, what's your name?
Jamie Vernon.
Super simple.
Comes off the tongue.
Zero problems.
jamie vernon
Same amount of sounds.
joe rogan
Where do you live?
Ohio.
Teotihuacan.
Why is it so big?
jamie vernon
It's actually the same amount of letters, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Eleven letters.
joe rogan
As what?
jamie vernon
As my name.
joe rogan
Yeah, all together.
jamie vernon
Same amount of syllables.
joe rogan
But I need a space.
jamie vernon
Alright.
joe rogan
I need a space.
Whenever they get, words are too long, right?
It's like run-on sentences.
Hey, I need you to pause.
brian redban
It's probably three words.
joe rogan
It should be.
Make it three words and I'll remember it.
brian redban
It probably was.
Somebody put it together.
joe rogan
Doesn't that seem simple?
Make it three words and I'll remember it.
Make it one big-ass stupid word with a bunch of weird silent letters.
I don't know what the fuck you're doing here.
Teotihuacan?
Okay.
You know, there's a bunch of them words.
You know, Ioannion Jacek?
Tony Hinchcliffe's favorite fighter, former UFC strawweight champion, beast of a woman.
Her name, try pronouncing that shit, there's a J and then a Z. And it starts, when you say it, it starts with a ya.
jamie vernon
Yeah, you say like her last name, it sounds like there's an N. There's no N in there.
Yeah, where is it?
joe rogan
How do you spell it?
I could not spell it if you put a gun to my head.
jamie vernon
J-E-D-R-Z-E-J-C-Z-Y-K. What is that?
joe rogan
It's a lot.
And the way you say it is Jundjecek.
I hope I'm not fucking that up.
I'm doing my best.
jamie vernon
I don't know the actual letter of that second E. That's a...
joe rogan
Johanna Yunjacek.
brian redban
Just change it.
joe rogan
Oh, an E with a dick.
unidentified
That's a trans E. Look at that E. It's got a little hanger.
joe rogan
A little hanger.
How come they don't have the hanger in the large font?
jamie vernon
Probably too...
joe rogan
Somebody fucked up.
jamie vernon
Formatting.
joe rogan
Editor slipped up over at Wikipedia.
Wow.
So what do you think that trans E means?
jamie vernon
I'll Google it.
joe rogan
Is it a J? It doesn't seem anything like Yon Jacek.
That's weird when other countries use the same letters as we do, but they don't agree on the sound.
It's like, oh, well, we're just in crazy town now.
jamie vernon
It's a nasal E. E with a little tail.
joe rogan
E with a little tail.
An E with a little tail.
Huh.
Nasal E. Too complicated, you fucks.
brian redban
It's like that chick from My Cousin Vinny.
What's her name?
jamie vernon
Marissa Tomei.
joe rogan
Marissa Tomei.
So, there was one other thing that we wanted to talk about when we first started.
One of them was Jeffrey Epstein.
Do you remember what the other one was?
You were going to show me the Jeffrey Epstein, so I'm such a child.
jamie vernon
There's the Gervais thing and then George Lopez's comment.
Oh, that's it.
joe rogan
That's it.
And then there's a bounty on Trump's head?
brian redban
I guess.
jamie vernon
I don't know how anyone heard it or where they listed it, but I read it on Twitter, and then people were making jokes about it.
joe rogan
How much is the bounty?
jamie vernon
80 million from somewhere in Iran, or I don't know.
brian redban
If you go to BetDSI, you can...
unidentified
Dude, imagine if they nuked Trump.
joe rogan
Where does the world stand if they only drop one nuke and it's on the White House?
Small one.
Little baby nuke.
Just levels the entire building and everything near it.
jamie vernon
Well, Iran dropped out of the nuclear accord, so they're going to start enriching uranium again.
brian redban
Trump, though, tweeted, Iran does not have any nuclear weapons!
unidentified
Right, but they can get them.
joe rogan
This is so crazy.
This seems like...
For the first time in a long time, I'm thinking we could go to war with a country.
This seems crazy.
jamie vernon
The internet jumped into World War III memes immediately.
24 hours of straight jokes.
joe rogan
What do you think happens?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
I don't even know what's happening right now.
Stuff could be happening right now.
joe rogan
What did the guy do?
Because Dan Crenshaw was saying that he organized the attack on the embassy, and that he was organizing other attacks on U.S. sites.
brian redban
He was a bad guy, I suppose.
There is some stuff saying he is a bad guy.
It's just how Trump did it is the problem.
He did help fight ISIS a lot, also.
He was a really bad guy, but there was points.
The biggest problem is that Trump just went out and pretty much assassinated him instead of dealing with it like an adult.
joe rogan
Do you imagine when they went through all those other really finely detailed points?
This is a strategy we can employ, or we can just take him out with a missile.
jamie vernon
I read he was trolling Trump, too.
Like, trolling him on Twitter.
I don't know if that was true.
That Iranian guy was?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Could you imagine if that guy was trolling Trump and Trump killed him?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian redban
He was talking about his hands or something.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Imagine.
Imagine you're talking about his orange skin, his fake hair, his fucking baby hands.
He's like, oh, yeah, fucking baby hands.
Oh, my God.
He got into a meme battle with Trump.
No.
jamie vernon
I might have Googled it too quick.
It could be a fake site.
I don't think it is.
joe rogan
The Daily Dot?
Is that a fake site?
jamie vernon
Maybe it was too quick.
I don't know.
brian redban
The Daily Dot?
joe rogan
Is that a real website?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to confirm.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
Does other things look real?
joe rogan
Keep us posted.
jamie vernon
Okay.
joe rogan
I don't want to comment just yet, because I have a feeling I have a lot to say about this.
brian redban
I want to see what the memes are.
joe rogan
It's so crazy, man.
It's so crazy that this fucking situation that we find ourselves in, where none of us who are listening to this had anything to do with any of this shit that might kill a million people.
None of us!
None of us!
And then our leaders.
We've been so roped in this fucking Game of Thrones mentality that our leaders are going to make these critical decisions for us and they're going to be in charge of what kind of diplomacy we employ on other nations.
They're going to represent us in the most personal way possible.
The way he does it.
The way Trump does it, that's personal.
That's how he is.
So he's standing for us, but he's standing up for himself as a person.
There's part of that too, right?
Like, he doesn't want to be fucked with.
He wants you to know.
The United States is not going to be fucked with me in charge.
They're like, yeah!
So it's like him.
He's the one out there.
And he's the one that go, you can just nuke the guy.
He's like, well, fuck, I'll just nuke him.
Commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps Force Major General...
How do you say his name?
Qasim Soleimani?
Qasim?
Qasim?
jamie vernon
I don't know how it's the first name.
Soleimani, I think.
joe rogan
Soleimani responded to U.S. President Donald Trump's announcement of sanctions are coming with a Game of Thrones-inspired meme of his own.
brian redban
Oh, my gosh.
joe rogan
And it says, I will stand against you.
And it has the Game of Thrones, like, O and U. So he put that up, and then Trump...
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is a couple months ago, but...
joe rogan
But he remembers.
brian redban
This is November 2018. Actually, it was a year ago.
joe rogan
Bro, he's got that speed memory.
Trump can remember shit.
This motherfucker owes me since the 70s.
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That is crazy.
A guy memes you, and then you murder him.
Woo!
Jesus Christ.
Baked Alaska better hide.
brian redban
It was a Game of Thrones thing.
joe rogan
So crazy!
It's so crazy that these worlds have collided.
And then, what do you think?
Putin is probably laughing his ass off right now.
He's probably got his feet up on the chair, smoking a cigar, just laughing and laughing, watching this chaos play out, and then for sure he's gonna help Iran.
For sure!
Anything to destabilize is his number one competitor.
That's what China's going to do, too.
This is so dumb.
It's also scary.
But it's also one of those things where we don't know what the fuck is going on, so it could have been the right move.
We don't know.
I mean, it might have been the thing you have to do to avoid more deaths.
China, Russia, and Iran hold joint naval drills in the Gulf of Oman.
Oh, terrific.
brian redban
That's great.
joe rogan
China, Russia, and Iran together.
We're getting to some World War III shit here.
That's World War III. That is like when Italy was joined in Germany.
I mean, that's what that is.
brian redban
We should probably get away from the coast.
joe rogan
Bro.
Imagine.
Imagine if this fucking guy gets us into World War III by deciding to do that and then have all these crazy threats.
See, the rest of the world is not one of the things...
If you think you're the baddest motherfucker and you represent the baddest country, you gotta kind of almost be like a real baddest motherfucker.
Like a guy like Stipe Miocic, like a UFC heavyweight champ.
They don't go around saying they're gonna kick everybody's ass.
Because everybody already knows it.
And if you start saying that you're going to be able to do whatever you want and maybe even do it in a disproportionate manner, all the other countries are like, why do you have any power?
Like, who are you, man?
And they say, like, we're really powerful when we all get together, bitch.
You're pretending you're more powerful than everybody?
That's a weird thing to do.
It's a weird chest-puffing strategy to take on a country that has allies.
That's where it gets fucked up.
It's not just Iran.
Iran.
It's all Iran's allies.
They all get together.
Now you have a giant force of people and nuclear weapons.
Congratulations.
Did you guys play chess or did you play checkers growing up?
How the fuck are you just a tic-tac-toe ace and you didn't see this coming?
This is why it's really important to have, you know, people have to be able to talk.
They'll be able to have dialogue.
jamie vernon
Did you see this tweet that he said before?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Targeted 52 Iranian sites representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago.
Bro, that was during the Carter administration.
I think we can let that go.
It's not the same fucking people.
Those people are all dead.
That's crazy.
So this is more team mentality.
But that'll get the yokels.
All the fucking, yeah!
All the dudes just jump off the tractor jacking off into the fields and they hear that.
Yeah!
Fucking get him, Trump!
unidentified
Woo!
Woo!
joe rogan
This shit could get hot.
It could get hot and it could get real.
And if he really has the ability to do that, what other calls does he have the ability to do?
Is there ever going to be another moment like that where Iran boxes in a ship and then he sends in a fighter jet?
I mean, is this going to really fucking happen?
Because then none of us can go anywhere.
We have to hide.
And we've got to get out of L.A. because they're definitely going to nuke that.
Like this is because imagine the movie if it all played out like that and like a Stephen King movie made a thing about a game show host that eventually becomes the president of the United States and starts a war while he's on speed.
jamie vernon
I do that every day when I'm really high.
joe rogan
Well now I'm getting there.
I was not getting there before.
This was enough to make me go holy shit.
Like, is there a better way to handle that than blasting that guy with a robot from the sky?
Like, where did we start?
I don't know, man.
I don't want to know.
Right?
You don't want to know that all over the world, these little pieces are in motion.
They're trying to protect us from terrorists, trying to make sure that they stop ISIS, and this sect is growing here, and these people are getting shot there, and what about the cartels, and they're getting up this much...
If you would be paralyzed by fear.
If you took in all the information on all the fucking danger all over the world, you'd be paralyzed by fear.
jamie vernon
When I was in Vegas while this was happening this weekend, if you didn't look at your phone, you wouldn't have known any of this was going on.
I didn't hear anybody talking about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I didn't either.
That was the good thing about being off social media, and this was my point in the first place.
By the time things get to me, it's already been sort of distributed better.
I'll have to jump on right away, and it becomes the focus of my day long before we know anything.
I keep refreshing CNN every five minutes.
I'm scared.
Like, legitimately.
This is like the first time in a long time, since like 9-11, where I'm legitimately like, oh, this is some real shit.
This could be really bad.
Because if he says he's going to do something in a disproportionate manner, he's threatening them.
He's calling their bluff.
Bro, this is so dangerous.
So dangerous.
Because all they have to do is just nuke Hawaii.
Do something like that, where the rest of the world would be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, what are we going to do?
We're going to kill each other, everywhere, everyone?
Because that's what could happen.
This, like, mutually assured destruction was always supposed to be the big impediment.
That mutually assured destruction.
We knew that if we shot them, they'd shoot us, we'd all be dead.
That that's what kept us from using bombs.
But who the fuck knows, man?
What if Iran just says, listen, if we just sneak a bomb in...
By the time it's detonated, they won't even have a chance to respond.
The whole system will be fucked, their grid will be down, all their entertainment will be down, everything will be down, and then the rest of the world can figure out a way to unite together and take over the power that the United States once enjoyed.
They were abusing that power.
They were the number one superpower in the world, and they let their guy take diet pills and threaten everybody on Twitter.
I don't know if he takes diet pills.
He had them in his dresser, but I don't even know if those are his.
I just want to say, maybe it's just strong coffee.
Maybe it's some of these Jocko energy drinks.
brian redban
What are they?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Jocko just dropped them off.
Dakota Meyers sent them.
He's a part of the company, I guess.
Jocko has an energy drink.
Want some?
brian redban
Sure.
joe rogan
Want to get really mad?
And right now, this is a good time for these, right?
Because we're talking about America!
Jocko's probably one of the most American men that's ever lived.
That's right.
Last movie used, both Blackface and Retard.
brian redban
Five calories.
joe rogan
The last.
It'll never be a major movie again like Tropical Thunder.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Never.
Impossible.
brian redban
No?
joe rogan
No.
Impossible.
brian redban
That's funny when you were saying earlier that if they cut out OJ. Can you imagine if they just cut out OJ and put all the OJ pieces together and made one OJ? Damn, this is good.
joe rogan
This shit's good.
No artificial colors, sweeteners, or flavors.
Sugar-free.
Keto.
That's right, bitches.
So I've been on a carnivore diet.
I'll tell you about that.
brian redban
Yeah, that's like a healthier keto, right?
Or a better way to do it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's just all meat.
Just everything's meat.
I'm not eating any grains.
And I'm not eating any carbs.
Nothing else.
I mean, I had like an olive the other day.
I had a Bloody Mary.
I said, fuck it, I'll have an olive.
So it's not the most strict.
Occasionally I'll deviate.
I'm going to allow myself two glasses of wine.
And most of the rest of the shit, I'm just drinking either water or these kill cliffs, these CBD kill cliffs.
These things are the shit.
brian redban
Carnivore, it's like keto, but you're allowed to have fruit or something like that?
joe rogan
You're just eating meat.
You're just eating meat.
Like, mostly meat.
And because I eat a lot of wild game, I have to substitute it.
So I have to supplement it with fat.
I'm adding other fats to it.
Wild game.
It does not have much fat.
When I read about the people that did this, there was a guy that was with the Inuit.
He was an explorer.
In the Arctic, and he was talking about how he lived like that for six months, and that it was one of, I saw the video somewhere online, but it was old black and white footage, and that the key was getting a lot of fat.
They were just drinking water and eating meat, and they were fine as long as they got a lot of fat.
They would eat like whale blubber and polar bear blubber, and they would eat all this blubber to sort of supplement their fat intake, but he said he was very healthy eating like that.
I'm just doing it as an experiment.
Did you find the guy?
Oh, look at that.
jamie vernon
Probably.
I would imagine this is probably it.
joe rogan
Truth about the Inuit diet.
jamie vernon
Maybe not.
joe rogan
They didn't eat any vegetables, man.
jamie vernon
I thought this was all black and white.
It's not...
joe rogan
Oh, it's a long one, too.
But yeah, those people didn't eat any vegetables.
I'm just curious.
I'm just giving it a shot.
They call it World Carnivore Month.
So I said, okay, let me see what...
Jordan Peterson is the main reason I want to try it, because I really respect his thought process.
And I really respect his mind.
And when he starts talking about all the different medical benefits that he had from trying it, that he had autoimmune diseases that went away, and I'm like, hmm, what is this?
And I know a bunch of people personally that have tried it too.
Is this the gentleman?
jamie vernon
I think so, yeah.
joe rogan
Yep, that's him.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
The Homer.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he lived up with the Antarctic.
What's interesting is he said that they didn't eat the organ meat.
They gave the organ meat to the dogs.
I thought that was really weird because that's definitely been proven to be the...
Yeah, that's the guy right there.
Give me some volume on this dude.
Can we do that?
Or will they get us in trouble?
I don't know.
jamie vernon
This is very old.
I don't know if this is in the open...
joe rogan
Anyway, I'll just encapsulate what he said.
He just basically said that as long as they had...
Yeah, that's the guy.
As long as they had plenty of fat.
I'm just seeing what it feels like.
It's weird.
I'll tell you one thing.
I do not trust my butthole at all.
When I feel a fart coming on, I'm like, oh, this could be a disaster.
I've had rocketing diarrhea.
brian redban
From meat?
joe rogan
From all meat, yeah.
This is what Dr. Sean Baker, who's like one of the head carnivore proponents, it's like his whole life.
It revolves around eating steak and deadlifting.
It's kind of hilarious.
And getting people to eat meat and try this carnivore diet and some of them had some pretty radical health benefits.
And I'm so curious about that because I know that sometimes people convince themselves that something is better for them.
And that something's working better and they feel better.
And then there's a sort of a placebo effect that can happen when you join a community of people that's also saying the same thing.
Like, we're all getting better.
We're all feeling better.
So I was real hesitant when I first went into it.
I was like, okay, I need to know that there's something to this.
Or is this a nonsense way to eat?
Because most of my thought process was, this is kind of a nonsense way to eat.
You should eat some fiber.
This clearly benefits eating some vegetables.
But what's interesting is the level of energy, your energy level.
It's like right here.
Stays.
It doesn't go anywhere.
It doesn't go anywhere.
I mean, at the end of the day, I'm kind of tired and then I go to sleep.
That's weird, man.
Because how much of your energy levels during the day is based on your body regulating sugar and insulin?
How much of it, how much of your energy level is based on that?
It might be a lot.
Because this is the unquestionable difference of this diet.
Unquestionable difference is that my energy level basically has a flat line.
There's no roller coaster anymore.
And I had less of a roller coaster because I'm pretty healthy and I'm pretty strict with what I eat, but not like this.
This is like this.
So for the last nine days or so, whatever the fuck it's been, I've had like an olive.
I had...
brian redban
Does your body go into ketosis at all?
joe rogan
I must.
I'm not even checking.
It must.
It must be in ketosis.
I mean, I'm eating a lot of fat.
I'm eating bacon with all these wild game dishes, everything I eat bacon with, because I need fat.
And then I'm cooking everything in beef tallow.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
And then I'm getting fatty meat, too.
jamie vernon
No butter or anything?
joe rogan
I'm using butter.
Yeah, you can drink milk.
The idea is if you were a carnivore, you would take everything out of the body.
The milk, the fat, everything.
Look, man, it's weird.
I see why people would be opposed to it morally and ethically, because it would require people to consume a lot more animals, because if everybody was eating meat all the time, the consumption, the need would go up, and it'd be even more slaughter.
I get it.
brian redban
It seems like you're going to get really bored quick.
joe rogan
That's very likely.
That's very likely that I get really bored quick.
But...
It's curious.
Because if I think, and I don't necessarily think this, I'm just saying, if I think this is the best way for me to eat, I'm not saying that.
I'm trying it.
And I'm basically trying it based on Mark Bell and Chris Bell and even more Jordan because I've talked in depth with Jordan about it.
Jordan Peterson is a brilliant guy.
And when he was describing his experiences with this diet, I was like, how many people have done this?
How many modern, super intelligent, well-read Articulate people like Jordan Peterson have done this diet.
I bet it's a really, really small amount.
Because socially it's unappealing to even say you're going to do.
It's sort of a taboo, you're going to only eat meat?
Oh, you're going to eat all the meat?
You're not even going to eat any vegetables?
What are you, a baby?
Vegetables are good for you.
Right?
That's what everybody immediately thinks.
I don't know if that's true though.
One of the things that Sean Baker said is that they're doing tests at Harvard with people who are on this diet for six months or more.
I don't know.
I'm interested.
So I did some blood work today, and I'll make that blood work public.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, especially if there's anything wacky with it.
But then I'm going to do it again at the end of the month, and I'll compare.
brian redban
Wow.
That's going to be a long month, I think.
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
Because I know with keto, I got so bored.
joe rogan
Bro, my kids are bored.
We're not eating steak again!
You don't have to eat steak.
I have to eat steak.
You can eat whatever you want.
We'll figure this out.
We'll work it out.
jamie vernon
How many ounces of meat a day do you know?
Like what you're up to?
joe rogan
Well, the good thing is I have a lot of elk.
That's good.
But I'm running through it.
You know, I'm eating some big ass chunks of meat.
brian redban
Is there something that you go to a lot, like chicken wings or something like that, just because it's easy?
joe rogan
No.
Eggs.
You can eat eggs.
Eggs are easy.
Eggs are really easy to digest, too.
Eggs just kind of go down.
Eggs are great.
You know, I wish that coyotes weren't real.
Those fucks.
You know, that's one of the things that James Wilkes from the Game Changers told me, where they were doing those regenerative farms, where they have these free-ranging chickens, and this is how we're going to get our eggs.
He told me they were losing, like, thousands and thousands of chickens to eagles.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
He said it was so many.
I forget.
I wish I could remember what the number was.
I'll ask him.
But some insane amount of death was caused by the Eagles realizing they could just get a chicken every day.
Just swoop in and get a chicken.
They're so easy.
They couldn't even fly.
And they're all in this one penned-in area.
brian redban
That'd be a great video.
I want to see that.
joe rogan
There's got to be a video of that.
Jamie?
jamie vernon
I'm looking right now.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Of course you are.
brian redban
Do you subscribe to that Instagram, Nature is Metal?
joe rogan
Oh yeah!
unidentified
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Oh yeah, we promoted that on here.
brian redban
That shit's scary.
Like the wolf with the dogs?
joe rogan
Dude, I try to tell everybody about that.
Yeah, when the wolves kill the dogs.
brian redban
That was so sad.
joe rogan
Nature is Metal is one of the best accounts on the internet.
All you can eat buffet.
Bald eagles prey on farmer's chickens.
Apparently, when eagles find out where your chickens are, you're fucked, man.
Because coyotes, at least you can put up a fence, you can have dogs.
2.2 million!
Oh my god.
Farmer wins case.
Scroll up back.
Case against, after losing 2.2 million dollars worth of chickens to bald eagles.
2.2 million dollars in chickens!
jamie vernon
That's 160,000 chickens.
joe rogan
160,000 chickens to eagles.
Bro, how crazy is that?
And eagles, eagles know you can't fuck with them.
That's the difference.
If a coyote eats your chicken, you could shoot him in the dick.
Nobody cares.
Everybody wants you to shoot coyotes.
They'll go after your kids.
They'll kill your cat.
But eagles?
That's America, bro.
You can't shoot an eagle.
Fuck your chickens.
jamie vernon
Well, maybe that's why.
Maybe...
I'm trying to figure out why he won a lawsuit, but maybe it's because he couldn't protect them.
That's a complete guess, though.
I'm trying to figure out what I'm saying.
brian redban
He's allowed to kill bald eagles.
jamie vernon
Yeah, because it protected bald eagles, so he couldn't do anything about that, I guess.
joe rogan
Now, are bald eagles protected because they're very rare, or is it because they're very rare and they're a United States bird?
There's one thought at one point in time of making a puppy the United States bird.
Or the United States animal.
It was a pit bull, I think.
Not a puppy.
It was a pit bull.
Yeah.
It was in the early days of the country.
brian redban
I thought it was recent.
joe rogan
Least concern.
So they're protected.
But they're of least concern.
Especially in some areas.
Apparently in Alaska.
jamie vernon
Brink of extinction in the late 20th century, it says.
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
That's what it is.
jamie vernon
Brink of extirpation?
Extirpation, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
In the contiguous United States.
So that means Alaska is where the big amount of them.
Transferred to a list in 1995. Transferred to a list of endangered species.
Was removed from the list of endangered and threatened wildlife in contiguous states on June 28, 2007. They're flying monsters.
That's our bird.
brian redban
You see the one video of the eagle?
I think it was like a...
Not a cow.
And they're just like rolling down the hill constantly.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, a goat.
brian redban
Goat, yeah.
joe rogan
He pulls the goat off the rocks and bashes his brains in on the rocks on the way down.
And he rides them down, too.
He even got fucked up a little bit, it looked like.
What is, um...
What was the...
Oh, there's...
Look at that.
brian redban
The goat's probably like, what the fuck is going on?
joe rogan
Do you know, those aren't even heavy.
Those eagles are really light, man.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're like 10 pounds.
They can kill a wolf.
They grab a sheep and fly with them.
jamie vernon
That's probably not real.
joe rogan
That is real, dude.
That's real.
jamie vernon
No, that's a Photoshop eagle.
joe rogan
Come on, make it real.
jamie vernon
That's not real.
unidentified
Do you think that's Photoshop?
jamie vernon
There's no way you can get that picture, man.
joe rogan
The lighting is so different.
Come on, just make it real.
Why can't that be real?
Come on.
If there was a GoPro that was that close to that, that'd be the greatest video on the internet.
Oh, that's a wrap, bitch.
brian redban
I like the one where he's holding a fish or something.
joe rogan
Oh, that's fake.
Some of these look fake.
That one looks like a...
jamie vernon
The thing is, the ones that really looks like it's not really a bald eagle doing it.
joe rogan
Golden eagle.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
That eagle's carrying Andy Rock, or Chris Rock.
joe rogan
What a crazy animal to have as our number one animal.
I mean, it's such an emotionless, ruthless beast.
Like, a wolf would be so much better.
Wolves are cool.
Right?
They howl.
They look at you.
You can make a deal with them.
You know?
You can make a deal with a wolf.
That's how wolves became dogs.
Humans made deals with them.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
They're like, come here, man.
Don't eat me.
I'll give you some of this.
I shot a buffalo.
We could all eat, bro.
You tell me when other fucking asshole wolves are coming by, I'll keep you hooked up with buffalo.
brian redban
There was that photo somebody posted recently of a woman that had a half-wolf, half-timberwolf.
Did you see that?
It was bigger than her.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
It looked like a monster.
It wasn't even a real wolf.
It was just a half-wolf.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of those half-wolves or whatever they are, man, that's a strong gene.
That wolf gene, if you mix it with a husky, you know, they're big, man.
And some huskies are big.
brian redban
There it is.
joe rogan
So that's how much wolf?
Does it say?
jamie vernon
Timber wolf.
joe rogan
That says Colorado Wolf and Wildlife Center.
That's a real wolf, dude.
brian redban
That's a wolf wolf.
That's not the same one, I don't think.
joe rogan
Look how big that goddamn thing is.
Imagine if that was a rat and it was trying to kill you.
Well, wolves are way scarier than rats.
jamie vernon
I think it's being added in there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at the size of that thing, man.
It's got a collar on it, though, no?
Is that a collar?
brian redban
It looks like a collar.
joe rogan
It looks like something's around its neck, right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, maybe not.
brian redban
Epstein.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's licking her.
brian redban
Oh god, fuck that.
joe rogan
What would you do if she just reaches down and starts jerking her off?
jamie vernon
Did you see a video going over the break with that guy who has a pet tiger and it comes at him and he just sticks his hand in its mouth?
joe rogan
Oh, stop.
jamie vernon
It's his pet.
joe rogan
I can't.
Does that motherfucker not know about Siegfried and Roy?
How does he not know about Siegfried and Roy?
Don't do that.
Hey, what do we know about the bounty?
What was all that we were looking at before?
I... We were looking at something, you were trying to figure out whether, what was it that we were trying to figure out was actually true?
brian redban
$80 million bounty.
joe rogan
Is that what it was?
brian redban
I heard earlier it was $50 million, but let me check.
joe rogan
Listen, if nobody pays $80, then, you know, somebody comes along and they say, I want to do it for $45.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
An $80 million bounty on Trump, George Lopez jokes, we'll do it for half.
brian redban
That's so funny.
joe rogan
I guess you're not allowed to say that.
jamie vernon
Someone at the funeral said that if they bring him his head, like $80 million.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
80 million citizens contribute a dollar.
Oh, no, sorry.
If they did is what it said.
Someone stole that.
joe rogan
Oh, if each of the country's 80 million citizens contributed $1, there'd be an $80 million reward for anyone who brings us Trump's head.
George Lopez says, we'll do it for half.
That's what a comic says, folks.
That's funny.
Any other time, it's, you know what, man, when anybody can be the president, right, in this sort of manner, is it really the same thing to threaten the president?
Like, is it the same thing as threatening Lincoln?
Is it?
Is it the same thing?
To threaten Trump in a joke.
To threaten a guy, just think about it, who's a former game show host, who's a noted baller, right?
A character in many, many rap songs because of his balling.
And he likes to talk shit on Twitter.
You can't make a joke?
You can't make that joke?
That we'll do it for half?
You can't make that joke?
jamie vernon
Some of the rap guys have gotten in trouble for what they've been saying in their songs, though.
joe rogan
I know, but that's a weird one.
brian redban
I mean, he's still the president, as much as it's...
joe rogan
I know, but that's where it's weird.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, what does that mean?
What does that mean?
It means you're better than everybody?
Everybody?
Definitely better than everybody?
I can't pretend we're going to kill you?
brian redban
Even talking about it, I think you can get in trouble.
joe rogan
What happened to Kathy Griffin when she showed that rubber head?
She had that rubber Trump head?
Nothing, right?
jamie vernon
She got suspended from Twitter?
brian redban
She lost her career?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
No, she didn't get suspended from Twitter.
They gave her a bump in the algorithm.
brian redban
It did fuck her career up.
joe rogan
Did it?
brian redban
Yeah, a lot of cancellations of shows.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
I think she took some time off, too.
Yeah, that's weird.
Nobody thought Kathy Griffin was really gonna murder Trump, right?
brian redban
Right.
That was just an artist, art-type thing.
joe rogan
It might have been in poor days, especially since she knew him and she was on his show.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
All of it is crazy, man.
It's all so crazy.
What else is going on?
brian redban
Not much.
joe rogan
Is anything good in the movies?
brian redban
I haven't done the movies in a long time.
I don't do movies anymore.
You give up?
I don't even do Netflix shows anymore.
I do a lot of YouTube stuff now and documentaries on YouTube.
joe rogan
I'm worried about that.
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
I'm worried about that.
That people are just going to only watch little...
jamie vernon
I went and saw Uncut Gems, Adam Sandler's new movie.
joe rogan
Oh, what is that?
That's a...
jamie vernon
It's good.
So it's a...
joe rogan
Jewelry movie, right?
jamie vernon
Jewelry.
He plays a degenerate gambler that works in the Diamond District in New York and has an event like a crazy night.
joe rogan
It's good?
jamie vernon
It was pretty good, yeah.
I mean, if you don't understand gambling and stuff like that, you might find the inconsistencies like you have with some of those other movies.
brian redban
I heard it's cut really weird.
jamie vernon
The movie was good.
Yeah, I liked the movie as far as the movie was.
It was an enjoyable two hours at the theater.
That company, A24, has been putting out some awesome movies.
They did a couple ones I've seen this year.
I just kind of sort of noticed that that company does them.
I don't really know who's behind it or anything, but they did some other, like, summertime movie, which is about some cult in, like, Poland or something, where some girl goes and, like, she gets kidnapped and shit.
That was a pretty cool movie.
Didn't hear anything about that, really.
I haven't heard...
I've seen some of the memes about it since then, but, like, randomly went and saw it at the Arclight, and I was like, oh, it's a really good movie, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd heard that Adam Sandler is a really good actor.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, I heard it's great.
joe rogan
I mean, you've got to think he's been doing so many silly movies.
brian redban
I heard it's edited weird, though.
It's like frantic editing or something.
jamie vernon
It wasn't that weird compared to other movies.
What was the one that Christopher Nolan movie where the guy has tattoos everything?
Memento, where it's all back and forth.
It's not weird like that or you can't pay attention or anything.
brian redban
I love that movie, Memento.
joe rogan
That was a weird one.
jamie vernon
He's got a new movie coming out that looked cool called Tenet.
It's all about time and the way time works and some soldiers going back and forth into time.
The trailer looked fucking crazy.
I couldn't explain it off the trailer, but it's coming out soon.
joe rogan
Let me ask you both.
Are you guys worried about Iran?
brian redban
Not too much.
joe rogan
Are you worried about what's happening here?
Are you worried about these military people making...
Joint exercises?
jamie vernon
When that happened, what was interesting I was going to bring up is that the LAPDs made some tweets that they're like, we're watching LA just in case everybody's worried and they're like, what are you talking about?
And they're like, I don't know.
We're just paying attention.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian redban
I'm not worried about it as much as previous type stuff that's happened.
joe rogan
Like what?
brian redban
You know, like with North Korea.
joe rogan
You were worried more about North Korea?
brian redban
I was worried more about North Korea because that's an actual threat from, I think, a crazy person.
And where I think Iran, they're just going to try to kill Trump.
I don't think they're going to necessarily, like...
joe rogan
Bro, if they kill Trump, it's going to be chaos.
brian redban
Yeah, I don't think they're going to be able to do that.
I think, if anything, the worst part has already happened.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think there's going to be some sort of retaliation.
jamie vernon
The funeral that they showed how many people were there?
joe rogan
Yeah, the guy was in a Chevy.
That's what I noticed.
He was in a goddamn American truck.
unidentified
Respect.
brian redban
Why does this one concern you so much?
joe rogan
Because it seems like this is the first example of someone being impulsive.
Someone making this kind of a decision that maybe strategy experts and real military experts would have had some Real good.
I mean, this is just speculating.
But that they would have some real good reasons why this is a terrible idea.
And that there are other methods of working things out.
That it doesn't have to go this way.
It doesn't have to be...
And this is not a movie.
This is real life.
brian redban
Yeah, but do you think they're just going to force him out then?
I don't know what's going to happen.
It almost seems like it's too good to be true for people that hate Trump.
joe rogan
Sort of, but then if something happens, here's the thing.
If something happens, especially something horrible happens.
See, the way America is, we have the genes of this wild, conqueror...
Just lust for travel human that was willing to get on a fucking boat and make it over here from Europe and from where every other place and then the slaves that were dragged in here against their own will and then the other people that were imprisoned here and they were and then the Native Americans who got pushed out the Mexicans get put that's this is all Thousands of years of genes, right?
The moment something goes crazy That's when all that stuff comes out.
Like, do you remember how people were when 9-11 happened?
Everybody had an American flag on their car, man.
Everywhere.
It became an intense place.
A place where, like, you just...
That whole break glass in case of war?
Like, that's real.
If someone provokes, someone does something where we feel like we're really at war, we're gonna unite.
We're gonna unite in a crazy way.
And the thing is, a lot of people are gonna love it.
They're gonna feel great that we're united against an evil cause.
I mean, this is why people have employed that strategy to convince their people to get into war.
I mean, Hitler did it, right?
Didn't Hitler, he burned the Reichstag, right?
That was, he did that in order to get people more enthusiastic about his plans.
I'm pretty sure he did that.
And I think Nero did that with Rome as well.
But I'm an idiot.
And my memory's faulty.
So who knows?
brian redban
You know way more than anybody.
joe rogan
Nope.
unidentified
Definitely not.
jamie vernon
Four weeks after he was sworn in, an arson attack was performed on the Reichstag building.
joe rogan
Oh, so it was arson.
So they think he did it in order to get people pumped up.
unidentified
Like, look, the Fuhrer was right!
joe rogan
Man, I've been in the middle of this fourth Native American book.
This Blood and Thunder book.
That just happened!
The reason why I'm worried is not just because of the news, but also because of these goddamn books where it talks about the Native American interactions with the soldiers and the settlers.
Fuck!
That is in our genes, man.
It just happened.
People were horrible.
They did horrible things.
And it shatters this notion that so many of us love to hold onto that without the Europeans here, the Native Americans live peacefully.
They didn't live peacefully with each other.
No one ever has.
The Native Americans slaughtered each other.
They took each other slave.
They killed each other.
They tortured each other.
The Comanches were known for it.
I mean, it's horrific hearing these stories.
Horrific what the soldiers did, too.
Horrific what the human beings of that era, when forced into that conflict, were willing to do and what they were willing to become.
That is not that long ago, man.
That's why I'm scared.
I'm scared because I feel like we have come so far.
It's so safe.
It's so safe that people don't even like saying that it's safe.
We like to be in denial about it and focus on so much of the inequality and inadequacies and all the problems and the violence and the this and the that.
And they're right about all those things.
But goddamn, this is a soft time to live.
And if some shit hits the fan, you're all going to know that.
When you're really worried about your life every day, when your loved ones really could get shot and killed by someone who's a mile away with a scope, because that's what's been going on.
If that's what it comes down to, you're going to understand how soft we had it.
You're going to really know how soft we had it.
And this is that cycle that everybody says, right?
Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make easy times.
Easy times make weak men.
This is a common...
It's just how human beings are.
We need a motivation to kick ass.
We need some reason to rise to the top.
We need some reason to go out there and conquer.
And the best reason is if we get attacked.
If we get attacked, we're going to go crazy.
It's going to be horrible.
I'm really scared.
I'm legitimately worried that some people are losing their grip on what violence actually means.
And what war actually means.
Because it's not happening over here.
And because it doesn't happen over here, the only ones that can tell us are the ones that went over there.
The ones that went over there and come back, they do not paint pretty stories.
They paint stories of ugly people and dangerous people.
And they're like, you got to be diligent and you got to be vigilant because this world is not what you think it is.
There's a lot of parts of this world that are fucking chaos-ridden and filled with crime and filled with murder and filled with death and filled with despair.
And there's money there, and there's terrorists, and there's these religious fundamentalists who want to throw gay people off roofs, and that shit's real.
That's happening in 2020. Right now, somewhere in the world, they're probably planning on throwing a gay guy off a roof.
Whoo!
Because some person wrote that down 2,000 years ago, or whatever it was.
Fuck!
brian redban
How was ice fishing?
I can't believe you went on that ice, man.
joe rogan
Disconcerting.
brian redban
Was that scary as fuck?
joe rogan
Almost as disconcerting as thinking about whether or not I should fart.
Like, whenever you...
Like, this could be a bad idea.
Like, walking...
With this diet.
Walking out onto that ice, and it was only four inches thick.
I was like, ooh.
It was fun, though.
brian redban
Did it make the cracking sound?
joe rogan
No, it's solid as fuck.
There's a lot of people out there too.
Me and my friend Brent went and caught a couple rainbow trout.
It's nice.
Ate it for lunch.
It's weird though.
It's a weird activity.
Freezing your ass off and you're standing still.
I don't like shit when you stand still.
My least favorite way of hunting is in a tree stand.
Just sitting around.
But it's also...
It's kind of crazy when it happens.
If you're hunting a deer in a tree stand, it's most of the time you're just trying to keep your shit together.
You might stand still for eight hours.
Just stand still.
Or sit down, depending on how you do it.
Some people lean against a tree.
You're harnessed in.
There's a bunch of different kinds of stands.
Some stands you stand on.
Some stands you sit down on.
Some are homemade and it's just a mind game just to sit and wait, sit and wait, sit and wait and make no sound so the deer don't know you're there and then they walk through, go into their normal corridors and you're gonna line it up while they're walking.
A lot of times you stop them, you have to stop them, you have to go and they turn and then you hit them with the arrow.
It's weird.
But that's that sitting still shit in the cold.
Ooh, I don't like doing that.
When you move around in the cold, it's not that bad.
Like if you have to go somewhere and you're well protected.
Like I went skiing this past weekend and I had a face mask on.
That's a game changer, son.
Neoprene face mask if you're going to ski.
Ooh, that's a game changer.
I was like, and it had the holes for the mouth so I could breathe.
I was like, this is a game changer.
No, I'm not cold.
Like, I'm not even cold.
jamie vernon
First time you've used one?
unidentified
Ever!
jamie vernon
Really?
unidentified
Ever!
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
They just didn't tell you about it?
unidentified
No, I just thought it was for pussies.
jamie vernon
What about goggles?
joe rogan
I wear goggles, but I have gone out without goggles and your face gets burnt.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
Your face gets burnt and your eyes don't look so good either.
It's like, this is not good for my eyes.
I'm like staring at a light bulb.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's very bright up there.
brian redban
I've sunburnt my eyes before.
I couldn't see for days.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a real thing, right?
It's called snow blindness, right?
Yeah.
I wiped out though hard.
I was a little worried.
This lady lost control in front of me.
I was going around a corner and this lady just slid right into traffic.
Just went sideways.
It looked like she was just starting out and I tried to avoid her.
Lost my left leg.
Went flying up and then I hit my head.
Bang!
Had a helmet on of course.
Snow wasn't really too hard packed but it was a good Ding.
Like, I got a little dizzy and I was like, oh shit, that's some brain damage I didn't need.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
So do you always wear a helmet?
joe rogan
Always.
Yeah.
You don't want to die, man.
brian redban
Remember wearing a helmet.
joe rogan
Bro, you could die.
You could die pretty easy without a helmet.
You definitely could.
I could have died from that, even with a helmet.
People fall and hit their head and they die.
I mean, I'm not worried that I was going to die when I fell.
I don't want to get you wrong.
But some people would have died from that same thing, like an older person or a person with an issue.
I think Liam Neeson's wife.
jamie vernon
The woman who created Orange's New Black since her son passed away.
joe rogan
Yes, yeah.
20. He was in a skiing accident, right?
jamie vernon
Intermediate Hill, I think.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
What'd he do?
Did he hit a tree?
brian redban
That's what Sonny did, right?
Hit a tree?
joe rogan
Sonny Bono.
Hit a tree.
So did one of the Kennedys.
Whew, bro.
Skiing's dangerous.
You're taking these crazy risks with all these people that might not know how to ski.
jamie vernon
Fun.
Beautiful up there.
joe rogan
Very fun.
Very beautiful up there.
Fun times.
It's a good family thing.
I think it's really good for kids to learn the kind of chaos that comes from skiing down a hill.
That's chaotic, man.
brian redban
Do they snowboard or ski like a grown adult?
joe rogan
Yeah, they ski like a grown adult.
And then tubing is another thing that's fun.
brian redban
That's the shit.
joe rogan
Tubing is no risk, though.
You don't learn the lessons you learn from skiing.
Skiing, you learn how to keep your shit together.
Because you're in control.
No one's holding your hand.
You're going down this fucking stupid blue hill when you're not really ready for it.
And you gotta go sideways, sideways, sideways, sideways.
I was fine.
I was doing good until the last day.
Some lady loses her shit right in front of me.
jamie vernon
90s when skiing was more like a cocaine party event.
People used to, instead of tubes, I don't think they had lots of tubes out there, but they would take the cafeteria trays and just slide down on those.
You know, crazy fucking college kids.
joe rogan
Yeah, cafeteria trays are good.
brian redban
Trash can lids.
joe rogan
Cardboard boxes, like a big refrigerator box.
Jump on that bitch and slide down a hill.
The problem with that is another guy died out there recently, too, in Utah, in the same area, from Avalanches.
This dickhead wanted to go off-roading.
Sorry, dickhead.
Sorry to call him a dickhead, rather.
I'm sure he's just a man.
A man with dreams and a GoPro.
Dudes want to make those videos and look like badasses.
They tell you never to do that, too.
I feel bad for calling him dickhead.
Just a figure of speech, folks.
brian redban
There's a lot of those guys.
One guy that was on the show once with The Rock Climber.
joe rogan
Oh, Alex Honnold?
Yeah.
He's been on twice now.
He scares the shit out of me.
brian redban
Me too.
joe rogan
I've been watching a bunch of these videos of him.
YouTube started recommending them to me.
And I watched that.
Two weeks ago, I watched like four or five in a row.
I watched like two hours of Alex climbing these horrific fucking mountains.
Even thinking about it right now, my hands start sweating.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Imagine finding yourself halfway up and not wanting to do it anymore.
And you have this life-changing moment, like, I don't want to do this anymore.
But you've got to keep going, bitch.
jamie vernon
I like the trail running videos where they're on the spine of a mountain.
joe rogan
Oh, no!
No, I don't like that at all.
I don't like that at all.
I can barely stay upright when I'm running on a regular trail.
brian redban
I think they have that new workout machine, not the Pentagon or whatever it's called, but the other one where it shows...
What's it called?
Patreon.
joe rogan
Peloton.
brian redban
Peloton.
The Pentagon.
Can you imagine that workout?
joe rogan
You sound like Joey Diaz there.
unidentified
My fucking cocksucker.
joe rogan
With the fucking Peloton.
brian redban
But they have the other new one where it's like where you're jogging on the side of a mountain or something like that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like that, yeah.
One of those life runners.
jamie vernon
It's like a 40% incline and you follow a trail runner.
joe rogan
That is cool, yeah.
Well, there's something about it.
Like, I've done elliptical machines that show you a trail.
Like, when I was in Hawaii, the gym had this elliptical machine, and you could start running a trail.
And while you're doing that, it feels like you're getting somewhere.
jamie vernon
Yeah, but there's something different when you're, like, literally walking up to Runyon, and you're, like, looking at the dust, and you're going to die, and then you turn around, and you see the entire skyline of Los Angeles, and you can see for miles and miles.
joe rogan
Yeah, you win.
jamie vernon
That's way better.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's better.
You're right, 100%.
brian redban
VR elliptical.
Is that a thing?
You'll fall off and die.
You'll fall off and die.
joe rogan
No, they had this thing called a unidirectional treadmill.
And the way it works is like that other treadmill that we have, the Air Runner.
In the Air Runner, you do it by using your own feet to propel it.
They'll have that with a unidirectional treadmill, and then you'll be harnessed in at the waist.
So there'll be some sort of cables and some sort of a suspension system so that you can't ever actually fall out of it, but you won't feel it too much while you're just running around.
It just sort of like roughly guides your treadmill in which way you want to go, but you always go.
You never hit anything.
You never run into anything.
brian redban
Still seems nauseating somehow.
jamie vernon
For sure.
joe rogan
Your body's going to be so confused.
It's going to be weird, man.
But it's the future.
jamie vernon
We're getting one step closer.
I don't know how much is going to be announced at CES this weekend, but I saw these gloves a couple weeks ago.
They're like, I believe, the first haptic feedback gloves for VR in development.
joe rogan
You're going to put them right on your dick, right?
Yeah!
Get my haptic on.
How much virtual reality porn is there?
brian redban
It's still not good.
joe rogan
Well, tell me.
brian redban
There's a lot.
There's a lot.
joe rogan
He's like the sister in Ebert of...
brian redban
It's just not good.
I don't know.
Like, it's not...
It doesn't...
I don't know.
It doesn't feel that insane.
You'd think it would be amazing sitting there, but then half the time, videos, you're like, wait, I'm the woman and I have the boobs?
No, wait.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian redban
Yeah, it's like...
joe rogan
Oh, you look down like you're a lesbian and you watch...
brian redban
You watch other lesbians.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
brian redban
Or guys fucking you.
It's like, that's not what I want.
joe rogan
That's not what you want.
Yeah, you can't look down from the guy either.
jamie vernon
Someone's got to make an interactive one, and I don't know.
That sounds very difficult to do.
I was thinking about it.
You can watch a video, but if you want to grab something and have a reaction happen, program that.
joe rogan
If Iran really wants to cripple our world, that's what they'll do.
They'll develop that game.
Think about how people can't put down Roblox or fucking Candy Crush.
What other wacky games people can't leave alone.
Just imagine how bad it would be if that thing made you cum.
A game that makes you cum.
Great.
The better you do, the better it feels when this game sucks your dick.
Do you know how good people would be at that game?
jamie vernon
Is there a limit per day then?
joe rogan
Think about how difficult it is for someone to get so good at BMX riding that people want to fuck you.
Not saying it's impossible.
It's possible, for sure, that a lot of, like, the high-level BMX guys, girls just throw themselves at them, right?
Guys are savage, out there doing flips and shit.
Think of how good you have to get at that before someone actually wants to suck your dick.
You gotta get really good.
For that being the reason why they want to have sex with you?
That's the reason?
So now, think about it.
Let's cut the human choice thing out of it and make it just a level that you have to reach in this video game.
Make it just you have to be really good at this video game and then this Russian robot lady.
Sucks your dick.
But you feel it in real life.
Do you know how good kids would get at it?
jamie vernon
Or it'd be the fastest hacked game of all time.
Just cheat codes.
joe rogan
That's good.
jamie vernon
Because it's just impossible to do.
joe rogan
Right, because unless we connected it to some sort of fucking blockchain grid that's impenetrable, and that's the only way you could get out the Russian fuck doll.
That's the only way.
jamie vernon
You can't hack.
joe rogan
You can't hack.
You have to show your skill at every level.
brian redban
Like a speedrunner.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm just trying to think.
Is there a way to not hack that?
You're a fatalist.
You've killed my dreams.
Yeah, we were talking about prostitution earlier.
That would be, like, how are you going to stop that?
How are you going to stop that?
If you say you can't pay for sex, okay, but can I pay for a thing that feels exactly like sex and I think it's sex while I'm doing it?
Or is it like if you get into a simulation, the simulation lets you murder people.
And then you come out of the simulation like, hey, you're going to jail.
But there wasn't even a real person.
Yeah, but you're the kind of piece of shit that if that situation happened, you would kill somebody.
You just killed somebody.
And you didn't even know it was a simulation.
Therefore, you're a piece of shit.
That's a thought crime.
jamie vernon
You can't pay, but you can give gifts, right?
You trade gifts.
joe rogan
You can.
You can be, I'm a happy fellow.
I'd like to give away money to beautiful girls.
You need to get your toes done.
I need to get my cock sucked.
unidentified
What do you say?
joe rogan
I don't think you can spell it out.
I don't think you can say, like, hey, I'll give you this Ferrari if you fuck me.
jamie vernon
Well, it doesn't have to be a Ferrari.
I mean, there's got to be a limitation.
joe rogan
Listen, if you're Bill Gates, you might want to just start throwing Ferraris around.
Everybody knows you got $90 billion.
jamie vernon
Derek Jeter gave away those nice gift bags for everyone.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
jamie vernon
Signed baseball.
joe rogan
That was just a nice consolation prize.
Thanks for fucking me.
I'll see you later.
The thing about girls never have to feel bad about banging their fans.
Like if someone like Miley Cyrus wanted to start fucking her way through the hottest guys that like her, everybody would be like, you go girl.
Imagine if Miley Cyrus started giving out gift bags every time she fucked dudes.
Hey, thanks for the dick.
Have yourself a little fucking nut cake.
Have yourself a fruit cake.
This is my favorite vegan coconut drink.
See ya.
jamie vernon
Left by the door.
joe rogan
Kick rocks.
Kick rocks, you pervert.
brian redban
Did you hear that Instagram girl?
She got banned from Instagram.
She was an Instagram chick.
And so she got to help out.
She decided to put out for $10, she'll send you a naked picture.
In one week, I think she's made $700,000.
jamie vernon
It was for donations for the Australian fires.
brian redban
Yeah, for the Australian fires.
joe rogan
But she's kicked off of Instagram for that?
unidentified
No, no.
brian redban
I think she got kicked off of Instagram, and so she's like, you know what?
I'm just going to start selling pictures of me naked then.
joe rogan
Oh.
I think Instagram would have her back on.
She's doing a lot of good.
brian redban
Yeah, they should.
joe rogan
For real.
She's raised that much money to help the Australian wildlife?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they deactivated her account, it says.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
unidentified
That's me.
jamie vernon
She violated rules about sexual content.
joe rogan
Come on.
She's doing it for a good cause, you fucks.
Let her be naked.
What are you stopping her from being naked for, you creeps?
brian redban
Why does Twitter let you be naked, but Instagram doesn't?
joe rogan
Because Twitter's better.
The naked philanthropist.
She's only 20?
Oh, poor girl.
She doesn't know what she's doing yet.
brian redban
Oh!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Hip-hop parade!
I'm sending nudes to every person who donates at least $10 to any one of these fundraisers for wildfires in Australia.
Every $10 you donate equals one nude picture from me to your DM. You must send me confirmation that you donated.
That girl does not have a lot of hobbies.
brian redban
That must take forever.
unidentified
That takes forever.
joe rogan
She does not have the free time.
Damn, she's hot, though.
brian redban
Wow, look at that.
joe rogan
Those are definitely real.
She raised more than $500,000.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Let her back, Instagram.
Come on.
But she said she was going to give the money to that, and she didn't show pictures, right?
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It says she was sending them...
That's sex work, I guess.
I mean, you're using a trans...
I would imagine it's really because Instagram wasn't getting a cut.
If they're getting a dollar out of every transaction, maybe it's a little more...
brian redban
That's why Snapchat has, like, Snapcash and shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they don't have a PayPal thing and built-in Instagram.
joe rogan
Do you think that's what...
Are you that cynical?
jamie vernon
I've heard them do that for other things.
That's what a lot of the ad changes were about and why they don't let influencers do ad things anymore.
It's because they're not getting a piece.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
They don't?
jamie vernon
Or like why there have been a bunch of changes.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
Because they're not getting a piece of all those ad sales.
It's going directly through the influencer.
That's just what I've read online.
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, whenever I see one of those sponsored ads, I'm like, what's happening here?
brian redban
Yeah, you're supposed to put that hashtag ad after everything.
joe rogan
Weird.
brian redban
It is weird.
joe rogan
Ads are weird.
Like dudes holding up a CBD bomb while they're rubbing their legs.
It's weird.
Social media, the ability to make money on social media is so new.
No one knows what to do with it.
And it's like porn.
This is why it's like porn.
The people in porn always figure out first how to push the boundaries of the technology.
Technology, when it comes to streaming, streaming video, high-resolution video, all that stuff, that's all pushed.
A lot of it's pushed by porn.
Just the amount of bandwidth involved in porn.
Off the charts.
This is like that.
Don't you think?
jamie vernon
They must have figured out password-protected content first because there's a bunch hidden that's not free.
There's a pay version of those sites and there's a free version.
joe rogan
I don't know how they figured out how to make money off those things.
Who would go to pay?
You've got to be a serious pervert to say, what's available online is just not enough for my tastes.
brian redban
I forget somebody we know very well.
I feel like, damn it.
joe rogan
Has that an account?
brian redban
Yeah, he's just told me, he's like, oh yeah, I'd like to support.
joe rogan
Oh, he supports the artist.
He wants to marry one of those girls.
He wants to marry one.
Nothing wrong with that.
Some people are into that shit.
They're like, what'd you do today, honey?
Show me your work.
Oh, you bad girl.
You bad girl, you took all those dicks.
Some guys like that.
You're a bad girl.
Hey, I'm a bad girl, daddy.
You want to take one more dick?
I'll take it for you.
jamie vernon
If Starbucks started giving away free coffee, I don't think anybody's going to keep paying for it, would they?
joe rogan
Some people would if they knew they were going to help Guatemala or something.
Don't you think?
No?
What do you think?
brian redban
If it was like only one kind of coffee, you know what I mean?
Like if you couldn't get free iced coffees or free cold brews or...
jamie vernon
Lesbian coffee?
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
You could only get decaf for free.
joe rogan
Oh.
Yeah.
What the fuck is that?
I was at a place the other day that only had decaf espresso.
That's all they had.
We only have decaf espresso.
I'm like, who the fuck drinks decaf espresso?
Because espresso, you can't even pretend that it's worth it for those little bitter sips.
jamie vernon
There's still a little bit in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, a little bit.
But it's real small, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, like, the idea of an espresso is...
Everybody thinks espresso is way stronger than it is.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's not.
joe rogan
No, that's strong.
jamie vernon
It's just less liquid.
joe rogan
I just like the flavor of it.
But I like to know that it's got a little jolt to it.
I'd feel like an asshole if I was drinking decaf espresso.
Isn't that weird?
Like, regular espresso seems totally normal.
But decaf espresso, I'm like, why?
brian redban
It's just because of people for health reasons.
Like, my mom can't drink caffeine anymore.
At all?
No, because it gives her heart palpitations and shit like that.
joe rogan
What about the amount that's in decaf?
brian redban
That's so small, it doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
I thought it wasn't that small.
jamie vernon
I saw some people arguing, some companies are going to stop testing people for nicotine usage, I forget which one, and then people were like, oh...
There's nicotine in all these foods.
You're going to have to test them for that.
And then smart people are like, yes, it's in there, but it's so minimal that you have to eat thousands of eggplants to get one pack of cigarettes.
brian redban
It's like potty seeds.
joe rogan
Thousands.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So your mom, what happened?
What was her experience with you?
brian redban
So she gets only decaf espresso because she loves the taste of coffee, but she can't have caffeine.
joe rogan
She likes espresso, though?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hmm.
brian redban
And I guess it tastes the same.
joe rogan
It's like, there's a bunch of different kinds of espresso, right?
There's different beans and shit.
Like, some people make it, like, super bitter.
The people that love doing that cranky machine, too, pop it in there and crank it and tap it down.
I like those Nespresso capsules.
Pop those bitches in enough to think too much.
Meanwhile, there's turtles out there choking the desk, belly full of them.
brian redban
Okay.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
It's aluminum, though.
It's not plastic.
But still.
brian redban
Fuck turtles, man.
When was the last time you saw a turtle?
joe rogan
I saw a turtle in Hawaii.
brian redban
Okay, so once.
But you see straws every day.
joe rogan
They're cool to see.
brian redban
I don't know.
I see straws more.
joe rogan
Yeah, but here's the thing.
I know what you're saying.
The problem, really, is waste management.
That's the problem.
How the fuck does the waste get in the ocean in the first place?
You tell me it's inevitable that everyone's so gross that all the garbage has to get in the ocean, no matter what.
I don't think that's true.
I think we need to do a way better job of collecting garbage and treating garbage and treating our own garbage and just come up with a more comprehensive plan to avoid all this shit getting into the ocean.
There's just not enough funding in or time and Greta Thornburg is only 16. She can only do so much.
jamie vernon
They used to feed it to pigs before they figured out landfills.
brian redban
Oh really?
joe rogan
Did they?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything?
They ate everything?
jamie vernon
As much as they could, I think.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
The restaurant should be fine.
jamie vernon
The pigs got sick.
Everybody's sick.
joe rogan
People got sick eating the pig meat.
What is this?
brian redban
Spam was made.
joe rogan
I think it was Ari.
It was either Ari or Callan.
It might have been Callan that told me they were in China and there was a restaurant that had a toilet and the toilet was a hole.
brian redban
Ari.
joe rogan
Was it Ari?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
But in the hole at the bottom was pigs.
He was shitting into a pigsty and the pigs would eat your shit and that this is common.
jamie vernon
Cool.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure it was Callan.
What in the fuck?
Ari definitely told me he had to shit into a hole.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I remember that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He also got chased out of a Chinese girl's house by a man with a baseball bat.
brian redban
Right.
And something about street oil or something like that.
The food was cooked using the oil from the...
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
That's a different story.
There's a story that I almost forgot about until you just said that.
That's a story of them.
That's what Ari brought.
Yes, yes.
Sewer water.
brian redban
Sewer water.
joe rogan
That they were making cooking oil out of sewer water.
There's literally people going into the sewer and turning that shit water into cooking oil.
I know you're saying there's no way.
brian redban
It makes sense.
Of course.
I see Asians doing that.
joe rogan
How dare you racist piece of shit?
brian redban
No!
My girlfriend is Asian and she likes the grossest shit ever.
Like blood, soup.
joe rogan
View from the inside of a pig toilet.
So there it is.
brian redban
That's kind of cool.
joe rogan
Look at that.
brian redban
I wonder if that pig thinks he's a fucking pig.
joe rogan
Minority village somewhere in Yunnan province, China.
The pig followed me to the toilet and positioned itself under it waiting.
I was very confused when I started using toilet paper.
For reasons.
Oh my god, because it was licking his asshole?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I just googled it and like pig toilet just started coming up.
brian redban
I tried to shit right on the pig's face.
joe rogan
That is so gross.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Now go see if you find cooking oil made from sewage.
Dun dun dun.
I know a lot of people are like, wait, what?
No, I think it was Vice.
I think Vice had a video on it.
And it was all about how there's a market for people making cooking oil In these really poor towns, they literally climb into the sewers and they take out human shit and turn it into cooking oil.
jamie vernon
Gutter oil, they call it.
joe rogan
Gutter oil.
Disgusting recycled oil and sewage.
Illicit cooking oil, which has been recycled from waste oil collected from sources such as restaurant fires, grease traps, slaughterhouse waste, and sewage from sewer drains.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
Look at that one on the far right.
It says Chinese guttural.
You click on that.
Disgusting.
This is the video that I've seen before.
Recycled oil and sewage is used to cook Chinese street food.
Jesus Christ, bro.
They get into the potty, and then they filter all the poop out, and they get the oil.
They use filters.
They get the oil out of the poop, and then they cook your noodles in that.
Woo!
That's why we need regulation.
brian redban
Would you taste it?
joe rogan
No.
That's why we need America.
Young Turks.
It was them.
jamie vernon
They did one too.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yeah, this guy opens up, or this woman rather, opens up.
Oh, and she's scooping out shit!
unidentified
Please shut that off.
It's off.
joe rogan
I literally almost threw up.
unidentified
That would have been good enough tape.
brian redban
Is the Young Church from RT or whatever it's called?
joe rogan
TYT. Yeah.
brian redban
Is that the Russian?
jamie vernon
No, it's a different thing.
brian redban
What's the Russian thing that started all the propaganda against 5G? Oh, that's Internet Research Agency.
joe rogan
The IRA. Against who?
brian redban
5G, where they were saying 5G is bad for you.
unidentified
Oh, did they do that?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The IRA did that?
brian redban
I think so.
joe rogan
Man.
brian redban
The 5G shit, like that propaganda is interesting.
jamie vernon
It's RT. There's an article that says RT America.
Oh, RT. It's been sowing disinformation.
joe rogan
Oh, RT has been sowing disinformation.
brian redban
They're the ones that started all this shit because I guess it's...
joe rogan
Your 5G phone won't hurt you, but Russia wants you to think otherwise.
Oh, okay.
A network known for sowing disinformation has a new alarm, the coming 5G apocalypse.
Is this New York Times?
Yeah.
It's interesting that you said New York Times, because the New York Times, if they're printing something, that's one of the places that I kind of say, if they're saying it, it's probably true.
But didn't you see what they did to Cenk Uygur from the Young Turks?
He was interviewing David Duke.
And he goes, of course you're not a racist.
He's mocking him.
Mocking him.
And they took it out of context, in quotes.
And they wrote that he said to David Duke, of course you're not a racist.
They tried to pretend.
Somebody just got too woke for their own good.
Somebody crossed the line.
They crossed the line.
They wanted to stop him.
They wanted to stop him.
And so they got overwoke.
They lied.
That's crazy.
That's a crazy lie, though, for that to get into the New York Times.
I wonder what the fallout from that was.
Because for them, that's got to be very embarrassing that someone actually printed that.
Because they were forced to make a retraction.
But the problem with that is when people hear about stuff like that, there's a lot of people obviously working at the New York Times.
A lot of people.
So it doesn't represent everybody there.
But when someone gets away with something sneaky like that, it really fucks over everybody else.
Because then all the other people that are making stories, people are going to go, yeah, you're the fucking people that said that Cenk Uygur said, you know, David Duke wasn't a racist when that's clearly not what he said.
Your fucking magazine's fake news.
It's all bullshit.
You're the shit newspaper.
unidentified
Congratulations.
joe rogan
You're going to fuel that.
And the New York Times used to have none of that, right?
They used to have none of that.
jamie vernon
They just issued a correction.
joe rogan
Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.
jamie vernon
I don't see anything else from that.
joe rogan
But the correction's too late.
It's in a newspaper.
brian redban
How many corrections a year do they do is what I would like to know.
joe rogan
Well, how many people read the correction versus read the original story?
That's what gets real weird.
Like, if you make something up about someone, then put it down, or make something, interpret it incorrectly, on purpose, intentionally, and then you put it out there, how much responsibility does the newspaper have, and how much responsibility does that writer have for doing that?
They probably don't like him.
They don't want him to do it.
They figure like, fuck this guy.
He fucking said it.
Did he actually say it?
He did say it.
I don't know what he meant.
Do you know what he meant?
Fucking print it.
I don't know.
I don't know what the process was.
But you can't do that if you want us to take you seriously.
brian redban
But there's still one of the number one.
I still take them serious.
joe rogan
I take them seriously most of the time.
brian redban
Most of the time.
joe rogan
There was another one they did with Conor McGregor.
Back when Conor McGregor fought Floyd.
And they said his face was bloodied.
And I'm like, no it wasn't.
He didn't have any blood.
You guys are making things up.
You can't make things up.
brian redban
Did they retract that?
unidentified
Yes.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They did.
brian redban
Because you said it.
joe rogan
They did.
But they had to.
Everybody saw it.
You know the arrogance that you have to have to pretend that you saw something that wasn't there?
Or either that or you're paying attention so loosely before you write the story that you don't even give a fuck how the fight went?
And you're going to report on the fight?
unidentified
Come on, man.
joe rogan
You can't do that.
You've got to stop.
You're the New York Times.
You're not a podcast.
Get a podcast if you want to say.
Spread misinformation and talk stupid shit.
That's the difference.
Nobody takes us seriously.
They take the fucking New York Times seriously.
You've got a serious job, okay?
It's like if you're a cop.
You've got a serious job.
You're a reporter reporting the actual news.
You've got a serious job.
Because you can change the way people look at things.
And it might be a lie.
And that got us into a lot of problems in the past.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People always think they know better, though.
unidentified
They know better than what everybody else wants.
joe rogan
That's where it's a real problem.
You think you're doing good by withholding information, or you think you're doing good by censoring people.
brian redban
Do you get your news mostly from, like, Twitter or something?
joe rogan
I don't get my news from anywhere anymore.
I feel great.
I looked at a newspaper the other day, I picked it up, and I'm like, what happened over there?
I forget what it was about.
It was a story about something.
And I was like, I didn't know that.
And I read into it a little bit.
It was in the Wall Street Journal.
And I was like, I got other shit to think about.
It's a terribly irresponsible way to look at things, but I don't know if you can do that much.
I don't know what the responsibility is, ultimately, to completely pay attention to everything all the time.
I don't know what responsibility you have.
People get mad at you if you don't completely pay attention to everything that's of importance all the time.
And they had a point.
They have a point.
But you also have a point for self-management and for mental management to probably pay attention to less shit.
I feel healthier and happier when I pay attention to less shit.
That's why this Iran thing's got me fucked up.
Because if something makes me think about it, that means it's in the forefront of the news now.
It's a big deal.
I'm like, oh...
Dude, do you see that fucking...
The meme that someone made and they put up on Instagram about feminists the day after World War III starts.
It's an old-timey 1950s lady in the oven baking.
She's got an apron on and shit.
She's got the oven door open.
She's making some nice cookies.
unidentified
She's like, Hilarious.
joe rogan
Boy, all these teeny, tiny, whiny beta males that have been posturing for attention and virtue signaling and what a rude awakening it's going to be if war breaks out.
War is the scariest shit of all time that people are so convinced that That no matter, besides all the other threats that face us, disease and injury and accidents and death and all this other shit, that we're absolutely convinced that we're always going to have war.
I never met any one person that thinks we're never going to have war again.
Have you?
There's never been a time.
Where are you going to move?
Canada, maybe?
brian redban
Canada?
No.
joe rogan
That's not bad, especially if they light this place up.
brian redban
I still lean towards Texas or Colorado.
joe rogan
Texas is a good move.
brian redban
I like Texas.
joe rogan
Texas is a good move, too, if you don't want to fuck with the winter.
I just can't do the fucking snow driving.
brian redban
The humidity, though, is a little too much.
joe rogan
It gets rough.
It gets real rough down by the ocean.
Like Houston area, that gets rough in the summer.
Remember that?
brian redban
Fuck that.
joe rogan
We'd be there in July and August.
Fuck.
It gets hot.
brian redban
Yeah, I'll be there in two days.
unidentified
What are you doing?
brian redban
Kill Tony's.
joe rogan
Oh, where at?
brian redban
Which place?
Secret Group and LOL Comedy Club in San Antonio.
joe rogan
How's the scene in Houston these days?
brian redban
Houston's great.
They have the Secret Group, which is an amazing club that's owned by a bunch of comics.
Oh, beautiful.
And we're going to have Skank Fest there this year, too.
joe rogan
When is that?
brian redban
I want to say it's February, March, around that area.
joe rogan
March, I think.
brian redban
Beautiful.
Yeah, so that'd be good.
joe rogan
It's nice to see, like, scenes.
Yeah.
Scenes staying alive.
That was like an ember for a while.
They had a fucking great scene at the Laugh Stop, man.
A lot of people don't remember.
We have to talk about it for people to get an understanding of what it was like.
Remember when they had that really good open mic that went all night?
brian redban
Yeah.
I love that place.
joe rogan
The place was awesome.
brian redban
And then that place across the street where you ate at, Bebas or whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That place was great.
Yeah.
The thing about that place was that the dude who ran it was just too crazy.
He was too crazy.
It was just too much drugs, too much chaos, too much...
And then the other guy took over and tried to make it a little corporate.
And then it was like, well, this kind of existed the way it was before because a crazy person ran it.
In a lot of ways, like the store.
The store has figured out the sweet balance, though.
Letting crazy people run it, but also have a business mind and keeping it together.
But just saying, oh, this is an interesting business deal, but this is basically the best way to make it run.
brian redban
Can't beat the story.
I love it.
joe rogan
It's the best.
But, you know, I remember I'd heard that Gene Garofalo had moved to Houston.
That might be fake news.
But I was in Boston, and I remember saying, like, what?
I'm like, who the fuck is in Houston?
And Kinnison was in Houston, and Bill Hicks was in Houston.
So Houston, at one point in time, was a hub, man.
Like, there were some beasts coming out of Houston, particularly Kinnison.
When Kinnison burst out of Houston, everybody was like, holy shit!
The best comic in the world came from Texas?
How the fuck?
Because for those two years that Kinison was on top, he was a fucking tornado, man.
He was just ripping houses out of the foundations and throwing them through the air.
And that was all from Texas.
So I'd heard a bunch of people had moved down there.
Because this is like, I want to say like late 80s.
Like late 80s, early 90s.
Kinison died, I think, in like 91 or 92 or something like that.
But Texas, Austin has a really good scene too.
brian redban
Austin, Dallas, like all of Texas.
Always has.
Have you ever thought about moving to Texas?
Yes.
joe rogan
I love it there.
brian redban
Me too.
joe rogan
I fucking love it there.
If the shit hit the fan in California, yee-haw!
I'm gonna get a ranch!
brian redban
Woo!
joe rogan
Live from the ranch.
The new JRE. Yeah, I'll have a fucking cowboy hat on and a snake tie.
brian redban
Meat all day.
Barbecue meat.
unidentified
I don't know how long you'll be able to keep up this carnivore diet.
joe rogan
It seems to have subsided, but for a couple of days it was literally touch and go.
Like my dick would like tingle a little bit, my butthole would pucker up, and I'd go, uh-oh, you better keep that vault shut.
It would be like...
Try explaining to someone who's never taken a shit what it feels like if you know you have diarrhea, but you haven't experienced it.
You know that feeling?
Like, oh, this one's a problem.
You know that feeling?
Like, how sensitive is the inner wall of your butthole?
jamie vernon
It's a ticking time bomb, because you know it's going to happen, too.
joe rogan
Right, but if you don't know you have diarrhea, you know there's those moments where you're like, oh, this is not good.
jamie vernon
Where it came out of nowhere?
joe rogan
Well, you think you have it.
Like, you're like, I've got to get to a toilet immediately.
Like, there's an urgency to the feeling that you have.
Like, your butthole is like, hey!
And you're like, what's going on down there, guys?
And you know, like, I gotta get to a bathroom right now.
You don't even know why you know.
Like, if you had to describe to someone, tell me what it's like when you know you're about to have explosive diarrhea.
What's the feeling?
jamie vernon
Pressure.
brian redban
Yeah, pressure.
joe rogan
That's not good enough.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
That sounds like you're giving birth.
It sounds like you got a rock in your pocket.
It's more than pressure.
There's a heat.
You know the heat that you feel like sometimes when you got hot diarrhea?
Like the inside of your butthole heats up and you're like, whoa!
This is gonna be a problem!
brian redban
I love it when it's a suicide bomber where you just sit down.
joe rogan
It's a great feeling and satisfaction that you actually made it to a toilet when that happens.
When you just fill up that bowl with water.
Yeah, I took a shit the third or fourth day of this diet that I took a picture of.
Because there was no solid to it.
It was black splatter.
brian redban
Oh God, I hate when it's black.
joe rogan
But it was so dark.
It was like what I would imagine the devil shit would look like.
jamie vernon
Send it to a doctor to just make sure you're good.
joe rogan
No, you guys are doctors, right?
No, you don't see it.
Well, I just want you to know.
I want you to know what kind of stuff I'm dealing with.
brian redban
Oh, no.
jamie vernon
No lease.
joe rogan
And I want to know what everybody thinks.
I need to know your opinion.
I mean, is this to be a concern or no?
Should I be concerned?
What's going on?
brian redban
Oh, God, dude.
No, that looks like a mouse.
A computer mouse.
joe rogan
Take a look at that.
It's all fluid.
Black fluid.
Dark.
Dark.
Like a Corvette.
jamie vernon
It's like the rabdo piss.
joe rogan
Bro.
brian redban
Because when I Google shit problems or say if it's ever black or if it looks like sand or something like that, you should go to a doctor.
unidentified
Both problems.
joe rogan
The thing is, Sean Baker was telling me that, I don't know if this is true or not, I'll read you what he said, because I will definitely butcher this.
Bear in mind, he is an actual doctor.
He is a...
brian redban
I mean, that's the blackest I've ever seen, and I thought I had black shit before.
joe rogan
It's not even shit, though.
It's like, it's liquid.
brian redban
It's like oil.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a disaster.
jamie vernon
Speaking of the shipper, I showed some of my friends the Jew clam video the other day.
I never heard of it.
joe rogan
You should put that away.
brian redban
It's not good.
joe rogan
Hold on, let me find it.
Where did you send it to me?
Hold on a second, please.
My apologies.
Talk amongst yourselves for a moment.
brian redban
Do you have a toto?
Or do you have a...
jamie vernon
Oh, no.
I would want to get what we have here, that brondle.
Yeah.
1000 heated seats.
Heated water.
brian redban
Heated water.
Yeah.
It's the best.
joe rogan
What is that?
jamie vernon
The bidet.
The bidet we have here.
But the air is a little weird.
The air conditioner?
The air dryer?
Because it's blowing right up.
brian redban
You know what's weird is that I didn't like it, but I've grown to like it.
It's smelling your ass.
It makes the whole room smell like your butthole.
It's kind of weird.
jamie vernon
No.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
The air dryer on the bidet.
It's just blowing your butthole in your face.
I didn't like it at first, but now it's alright.
joe rogan
I can't find this dude's message.
I know he sent it to me, but I can't find it.
brian redban
Mine, it opens up the seat when you come in and everything like that, but sometimes my girlfriend, like, unplugs it to use the hair dryer.
jamie vernon
Is there another level?
Joe, have you had a better bidet than the one we have here?
Like, is there a next level to it?
joe rogan
I mean, there might be.
I don't know of one, though.
brian redban
The Toto's really good.
I recommend the Toto.
joe rogan
The one we have is pretty good.
I feel very guilty when I go through a whole water cycle up my butt though.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck, I'm a bad person.
jamie vernon
You posted a video or a picture of it one time.
We were at that one hotel that had a hose next to it.
joe rogan
Double hose!
jamie vernon
I still don't understand what the fuck you're supposed to do with that.
joe rogan
Apparently it has to do with some religions.
Some religions think you're not supposed to wipe your ass with anything, so you just blast that sucker.
This is what someone told me.
I think maybe a limo driver, so I might be making this up.
jamie vernon
To shit butt naked, basically?
joe rogan
Yes!
That's what you're supposed to do.
Shit, shower, shave.
Come on, you fucking monster.
Let me find this dude's text message to me.
I told him I'm doing it, and then I told him I'm having some...
Rock-hard diarrhea.
brian redban
Did you know that in photos on your iPhone, that you could search by, if you just type in car, it knows what cars are, and it would bring up photos?
I was trying to find this picture of a person's tooth.
And I just typed in tooth in photos and searched, and it found all these people's close-ups of their smiles and stuff.
I didn't know that you could search photos.
joe rogan
I found this message.
Here, hold on a second.
It says, for some reason, for some people, too many eggs can lead to diarrhea.
That was not the case of me.
I wasn't eating that many eggs.
Hardly any eggs.
Most of the time, it's just the colon adapting.
Whoops, I lost it there.
Sorry.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
God damn it.
jamie vernon
Search for colon adapting.
You'll get there.
joe rogan
I had it though.
brian redban
53 messages.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's true.
See, here's the thing about all this stuff is there's a lot of dispute.
Like a lot.
A lot of dispute.
What people think is and isn't true about nutrition and diet.
Like that is one of the more confusing things about talking to all these different people.
What is okay and what's not okay?
What's healthy and what's not healthy?
How much difference does it make biologically between people?
Like, healthy for you but not healthy for me?
Is that real?
Like, how does one find it?
It's a fucking long road to try to sort all this stuff out.
So when people start talking about, like, why something gives you diarrhea, I'm like, hmm, I don't know if that's true.
It says the colon's adapting to a relatively higher amount of liquid Leaving the small intestine than we're used to on a high fiber diet.
I don't know.
We're going to find out.
brian redban
Yeah, it seems to me.
I find it odd that you have diarrhea on a meat diet.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
brian redban
Yeah, it's just weird.
joe rogan
But what he's saying, if your colon is used to high fiber, which captivates some of the liquid, and then it would cause that fiber to swell up, And then it comes out in the form of watery shit.
So instead, there's none of that.
It's just meat.
So you got the plop-plop, that's the meat, and then everything else is liquid.
Yikes!
jamie vernon
Are you drinking more liquid too, do you think?
Because you're filling space?
joe rogan
I'm definitely drinking a good amount of liquid.
I'm being healthy about it.
We bought these body composition scales that you get on, but it said I should be 142 pounds, and then I'm 59 pounds of fat.
That's not true.
So it's a piece of shit.
brian redban
Yeah, those things are...
joe rogan
I talked to my doctor about it today.
He said they're not...
He said the real ones have a handle.
There's a handle on one side and then it goes across your body.
So it gets you from the floor up and it gets you across your body with these wires that you hold on to.
And it gets a better scan.
But the best scan is when you go into an immersion tank and then they find out what your body composition is.
There's more complicated machinery involved.
I know the UFC has some body composition scanner laid down on this thing.
That's a different level.
That's probably the one that works.
Because this...
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe the one that you step on works.
Maybe.
But I'm skeptical of the one I got.
I'm not even going to say the name of it.
The one I ordered.
I ordered three different ones because I wanted to see if they were...
Because we're all talking about doing it.
Ari's going to do it.
We're going to do a podcast.
We're all going to do a weight loss podcast because we look so fat.
Except Ari.
He wants to lose body fat, and he has the bones of a baked chicken.
His bones just break, and he found out he has inadequate bone mass, and he's like, oh, okay, that's probably why everything breaks when I ski, because he's broken a bunch of shit skiing his arm, his legs, ankle.
So he's going to gain some mass and hopefully become more of a man.
I mean, that's the ultimate goal going into this one.
brian redban
His ski video is pretty amazing, if that's him.
I think it's real.
He posted some video.
I don't know if it's real or a deep fake.
Yeah, if him's skiing.
joe rogan
Oh, he can ski.
brian redban
Yeah, he can ski pretty good.
He's going on all the ramps.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, he's been skiing forever.
Ari's been skiing forever.
Yeah, he knows how to ski.
brian redban
Pretty amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Bert's been doing push-ups, or kind of push-ups.
joe rogan
What does that kind of push-ups mean?
You either do or you don't.
Like Yoda over here.
There's no want.
unidentified
Do or don't.
jamie vernon
Full extension.
joe rogan
Full extension push-ups?
Not really?
He's not?
Well, those don't count.
You get zero points, sir.
Get back down there.
brian redban
It's a camera trick.
He's just bringing up a carpet.
joe rogan
So he's trying to lose weight, too.
Yeah, we're all going to try to look impressive at the end of February.
jamie vernon
Is there a contest?
Are you figuring that out?
No, just doing it?
joe rogan
Just doing it's better.
The problem with contests is we all get crazy and we don't have time.
And the contest that's involved between Bert and Tom with just dance-off videos is getting pretty spectacular.
I know a few things.
I'm not telling nobody.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
But there's some shit in the works.
It's going down.
brian redban
Are we going to see you returning to, like, a...
joe rogan
No.
I'm not dancing.
brian redban
I love that dancing scene.
joe rogan
No.
No dancing.
brian redban
You used a curtain and swung across the room or something.
joe rogan
No, that was Kevin James did.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That shit's hard on you, man.
It takes a lot of energy to learn how to dance in some stupid way that nobody gives a fuck about.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
jamie vernon
Go big on TikTok and go crazy.
joe rogan
It's hard, man.
I'll tell you that.
I have a lot of respect for dancers.
It's fucking hard to do.
Very hard to do.
I mean, just the physical motion required to move your body like that, it's difficult.
I get it.
I don't like when people try to shame you into doing their thing either.
I don't like that.
Are you too scared?
Scared to do a dance-off?
Fuck you.
Alright, fuck you.
I'm not scared to do it.
No one's scared to do a dance-off, man.
It doesn't matter if you dance better, okay?
It's like, out of all the things, it's one of...
This is not 1970, and this isn't Saturday Night Fever, okay?
Okay.
It's not a valuable commodity.
I know you wish it was.
I know you wish it was.
I know you wish in this day and age that being a great dancer was a valuable commodity.
But you know how I know it's not?
Because there's no rich, professional, male dancers that are famous.
Name one.
The last one we have was Baryshnikov.
After that, that's it.
There's no more...
It's not like...
Well, think about all the famous chefs we have.
Gordon Ramsay and Anthony Bourdain and the famous celebrity wealthy chefs are a dime a dozen.
There's a lot of them today.
Guy Fieri.
You can keep going.
Wolfgang Puck.
You can keep going, right?
Name one.
Baller dancer.
jamie vernon
Just dancer, though.
joe rogan
Just dancer.
jamie vernon
Michael Jackson.
There's people that are good at it.
joe rogan
No, he's Michael Jackson.
And he's dead.
Name one right now.
jamie vernon
Save you on Glover.
joe rogan
Who the fuck is that?
unidentified
Who the hell?
jamie vernon
It's tap dancing.
joe rogan
Listen, bro.
Keep it.
No disrespect to Mr. Glover.
No disrespect to anybody who bowls professionally.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's tough.
joe rogan
This lick.
You can't.
Nobody gives a fuck.
So if you try to pretend that it's a big deal, like it's not a big deal.
That's why you can't make a living doing it.
I guess you can make a living dancing.
You certainly can make a living.
And if that's not the only reason, of course I'm joking, it's not the only reason to be a very good dancer.
You should dance for love.
Dance for the love of your craft.
But if you try to shame someone, and they're not having a dance-off, they're gonna go, hey, that doesn't mean anything.
There's a lot of other interesting things you could do with your body.
You know?
You can get good at a lot of different movements.
I don't have to do a fucking hip-hop dance-off with you.
How about no?
Come on, man.
I want you to listen to some music you don't even like.
And I want you to move in a way that's going to embarrass the fuck out of you five years from now.
So, go ahead.
Especially what Bert did, or what Tom did to Bert.
brian redban
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That was...
brian redban
Kind of taking it too far.
joe rogan
It took it even further.
Because then he released a behind-the-scenes video as a real reaction to Burt's video.
And they're not much better than the reactions that were in the fucking video where it was acted out.
The real reactions hurt more.
Because they're looking at him like, they're like, what the fuck?
Oh, oh, what the fuck is he doing?
That was real.
That was a real reaction.
brian redban
Why is everyone trying to hurt Burt?
joe rogan
Because he's a really nice guy.
I'm not trying to hurt him.
I'm not like these fucks.
Ari's out there drugging him and Tom's pretending to stab him.
I'm just trying to get the guy to be healthy.
Yeah, that's right.
Joey Diaz dosed his dad.
brian redban
I mean, everybody is.
joe rogan
Everybody's in on it.
It's not cool.
It's not cool.
He didn't deserve it.
Right?
brian redban
No!
joe rogan
I don't think you deserve it.
jamie vernon
I don't think he asked for it.
joe rogan
But it seems like that's part of the Burt Kreischer experience.
Right?
Part of the Burt Kreischer experience is like people step over.
They line step on him.
Don't you think?
A lot of people line step on Burt.
He gets very mad at it too.
Secretly mad.
jamie vernon
Well, yeah, people just taking their shirt off with them.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
I mean, just what Ari did and what Tom did.
Those are two line steps.
Big time line steps.
jamie vernon
Ari first took all his albums and I think he thought he broke them, remember?
brian redban
Oh, that's right.
jamie vernon
And they threatened him on...
joe rogan
That's right.
jamie vernon
Or Burt took him and then threatened him on Twitter.
joe rogan
That's right.
I forgot about that part.
unidentified
Big suspension.
joe rogan
So Burt took the albums and then Ari threatened Burt.
jamie vernon
Because he wouldn't give them back.
joe rogan
That's right.
Said he was going to kill him and then Twitter suspended him.
They had banned them, and we had to show them somehow that it was a joke.
unidentified
I think management got involved.
joe rogan
I remember there was a lot of people involved making emails and calls to Twitter trying to explain.
These are best friends.
They're comedians.
But when you think about just having one of your best friends make a video of you, like a deep fake, getting stabbed, like Tom did, I was like, yo, what?
brian redban
And it was realistic.
joe rogan
No, it was really rough.
Tom's all about the internet.
He knows what works.
jamie vernon
He tricked him into giving him all the footage.
Giving him all the expressions.
joe rogan
Making all the facial expressions.
It's so ridiculous.
brian redban
Yeah, I asked Bert about it, and he was like, you know how fucked up, like, my daughter saw that.
unidentified
Oh, that's fucked up.
brian redban
Can you imagine seeing your dad being stabbed like that?
joe rogan
That should shame him into losing weight, so it doesn't look like that.
brian redban
It doesn't look like that anymore.
joe rogan
Dude, I looked at myself when my gut was hanging out, my love handles are hanging out.
That's as heavy as I've ever been, and that's one of the reasons why I decided to do this carnivore thing.
Just try it.
Like, I'm 205 pounds.
I'm supposed to be, like, 190. I was like a legit 15 pounds overweight.
I'm like, okay, let me just lose this weight.
So now I'm down to like...
I think this morning I was 197 or something like that.
Yeah.
brian redban
Ew.
joe rogan
I know.
Not good, right?
So I've lost eight pounds in just two weeks.
I don't know how much of that's real, though.
How much of that's water?
How much is that real?
How much is real?
How much can you actually lose?
How much is real loss and how much of it is stuff that is going to change instantaneously the moment I change the way I'm eating?
Is it from carrying around water?
What is it?
brian redban
I think most diets I notice that you can get up to 7 pounds, 8 pounds off almost immediately just by changing your diet.
And a lot of, like sodium, I'm just joking, but that's actually a huge thing.
A lot of people eat noodles and ramen.
That's like your daily, how much sodium you're supposed to have in one half bowl.
joe rogan
So you're just retaining a lot of water.
brian redban
Yeah.
A lot of people drink Gatorade a lot and stuff like that because they're hungover.
They get a bunch of sodium that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is there a healthy form of Gatorade?
See, someone told me that the thing that makes Gatorade really bad when you don't exercise makes it good if you do exercise.
Someone's explaining that Gatorade, like, if you just want to drink Gatorade all day, it's kind of like, almost like sugar.
Like, you're just drinking sugar.
You're just drinking a soda.
But, if you rigorously exercise, Gatorade's not a bad thing to have after you rigorously exercise.
Like, this is doctor.
Who has a sort of famous workout webpage and videos and he's very, very intelligent.
Jim Stopani is his name.
And he actually advocates people eating candy after they work out.
And just to immediately replenish the muscle glycogen levels.
And you can do that.
It's one time, even when you're cutting a lot of weight, when you have a brutal exercise, you actually can take in simple sugar very easily.
And it just helps your muscles sort of recover from a workout.
So that's when Gatorade is actually good.
So the thing that makes kids fat because they don't do anything and they just drink Gatorade and it fucks them up because it's so much sugar, that's actually good for you if you just ran a marathon.
Or good for you if you're playing rugby.
brian redban
I wonder if the G2s and the Powerade 0s, how bad they are for you.
joe rogan
Probably the same shit.
brian redban
Zero calories.
joe rogan
Well, the zero calories is probably a problem.
Those are not good for you.
They probably replenish the electrolytes, right?
Electrolytes don't have calories.
But it's not just the electrolytes.
It's actually getting some sugar into your muscles.
That Jim Stepani guy, did you find him?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
I'm looking up a thing about eating gummy bears after you work out and for carbs.
joe rogan
Oh.
Jim Stepani's interesting too because he's fucking fully tattooed up, including his head.
All of his head.
But he's a very smart guy.
Like, you look at him and you go, I bet that guy's got his cock tattooed.
Not that I think about your cock, sir.
He's got him everywhere.
And he's super jacked.
Look at him.
See, that's what he used to look like.
Yeah, super jacked.
But now, everything's covered.
Look at that.
That's his neck and everything.
His hands.
He's fucking jacked.
brian redban
That's too much, though.
He just looks black.
joe rogan
Shut up.
He's perfect.
You leave my boyfriend alone.
All kidding aside, I go to his Instagram page all the time.
It's very informational.
Very interesting videos, too, that he has on YouTube.
He's clearly a very, very bright guy and is also super jacked.
Look at that.
So you see his neck.
It goes all the way up to his chin, right?
But it's also like the back of his head and everything, too.
Super jacked.
brian redban
That's craziness.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There he is.
Anyway.
Enough of my boy crush.
So what else?
It's already three o'clock, man.
So listen, you and I, we're talking, we should commit to doing these more often.
brian redban
Yeah, let's do it.
joe rogan
They're always fun.
brian redban
I love it.
joe rogan
Especially, like, I'm more looking forward to, like, silly ones nowadays, because everything's so goddamn, even when we're talking about things, like, if we're talking about something seriously, at least we could fuck off while we're talking about something serious.
brian redban
Like, Yeah, and I always get messages, especially after that 10-year video you guys posted.
People miss, like, I think us just talking about the internet and fucking around like this.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what we were saying, like, an internet show.
A show where we just talk about, like, what's going on on the internet this month?
What's happening right now?
Because there's so much...
You'll never run out of disasters to cover.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You'll never.
All right.
You're going to be in Houston.
Is it sold out?
brian redban
I think everything's sold out.
Sorry, bitches.
Calgary soon.
Check out DeathSquad.tv.
joe rogan
Is Calgary sold out as well?
brian redban
I think that's just for last or something.
Maybe it might be sold out.
Oh, you know what people should check out?
I'm doing Holtzman's new podcast.
unidentified
Oh, he has a podcast now?
brian redban
If you like Brian Holtzman, we'll have him on now.
joe rogan
Where's his podcast?
brian redban
At my studio, DeathSquad.tv.
joe rogan
Oh, he's doing it at your place.
brian redban
At my studio, and I'm also doing Dave Lucas and William Montgomery, the regulars from Kill Tony.
We're doing their podcast also, and tomorrow, or Wednesday, we have Duncan Trussell as the guest.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
DeathSquad.tv for all your DeathSquad needs.
YoungJamie.com, is that what you are?
jamie vernon
Sure, yeah.
joe rogan
YoungJamie.com.
Get yourself a look into it, or a looked into it t-shirt.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon
Still feel available.
joe rogan
Round Earth Shill t-shirts also available there.
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