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Dec. 11, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1398 - Lil Duval
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joe rogan
01:16:34
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lil duval
01:36:20
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Boom.
I'm rolling.
What's going on, man?
How are you?
Good to see you.
lil duval
What's up, man?
joe rogan
Pleasure.
Pleasure.
lil duval
Pleasure to meet you, man.
joe rogan
I enjoy your social media, man.
Your Instagram is one of my favorite, for sure.
lil duval
I appreciate it, man.
Just doing me.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're doing you, but you're doing it correctly.
It's a lot of fun.
You're a fun guy.
Like, your shit is fun.
lil duval
I just try to be genuine with it.
That's all I've been on there from day one, and that's what got me this far, and it's been working, so why not?
joe rogan
Yeah, man, you know, I found out about you from two people.
One, from my friend Andrew Schultz.
lil duval
Yeah, that's my nigga.
joe rogan
I love that dude.
He speaks very highly of you.
But two, because my friend Stylebender is a UFC middleweight champion.
He played your song on one of his walkouts or one of his fights.
lil duval
I didn't even know him, honestly, until...
It's just like a lot of stuff I really don't be knowing.
I'm out the loop of the mainstream stuff.
So if I can't, especially something like UFC, I'm still new to that.
I'm still learning it.
So when he, so when, I think Andrew or Charlemagne the one told me and Instagram told me too and when I looked at it, I was like, oh shit.
This shit is big.
He did it while Smile Bitch was still bubbling.
So he was one of the people that I kind of realized, oh no, this shit going to a whole other level.
Just by him doing that.
And I appreciate him doing that too.
joe rogan
He's huge now.
He's huge now.
He's the champ now.
So he did this back before he won the title.
This was, I believe, a year ago.
lil duval
Shit, to me he did win the title when he did that.
I thought that was the title.
I don't know.
I'm still new to this UFC thing.
Actually, that's what brought me into it.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
That made me give a fuck about it.
I was like, shit, let me see what this is about.
joe rogan
You gotta come to one live.
lil duval
I want to.
joe rogan
What are you doing this weekend?
lil duval
You want me to tell you what it is?
I didn't like to see the actual nigga getting his ass whooped.
Like, I don't want to keep seeing him get punched, punched, punched.
joe rogan
While they're down, you mean?
lil duval
Yeah, I guess because the environment you come from, I try to get away from that type of shit.
And so to see it, like, I don't even watch videos like that, seeing somebody get shot in the head.
And I'm just starting to get comfortable watching fights.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
lil duval
So with that, but now I want to go to a UFC fight now just because now I guess my body or my mind has got desensitized to where it don't bother me as much.
joe rogan
Well, anytime you want to go, let me know.
There's a big one this weekend.
lil duval
Where?
joe rogan
Vegas.
lil duval
Shit, I might come fuck with you.
joe rogan
Come on down.
lil duval
Hold on, let me think.
I don't want to say.
I got to think, do I got something to do?
joe rogan
There's at least two titles, right?
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Three?
Three titles?
lil duval
I can't go.
I'm going to Honduras.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
How do you forget you're going to Honduras?
lil duval
I don't know.
I just be doing shit.
I do shit whenever I get a chance to now, as far as traveling.
joe rogan
Just for fun?
lil duval
Yeah, just for fun.
Just for chill.
That's my way of...
My me time, my space time to gather my thoughts and do my thing.
joe rogan
So not work related at all.
Just enjoying yourself.
lil duval
That's kind of where I'm at mentally and everything.
I just, I'm kind of pre-retired in my mind.
unidentified
Really?
lil duval
To prepare myself for when shit slow down.
I think you should do that.
I think, well, me for 40. When you're about 40, you need to prepare for 60. I always try to prepare for later.
joe rogan
I'm 52, so 60's around the corner for me.
lil duval
Nigga, 50?
I'm just realizing, because I remember when I was a kid, and I used to be like, man...
Man, I want to give my life to God and all that, but I ain't going to have no fun.
I'm going to wait until I get about 50. And then here come 50 about to pull up.
I'm like, shit.
So now, I mean, but...
unidentified
I don't know.
lil duval
50 is a cool age, and I just start preparing for when I can't take care of myself.
joe rogan
But what it all is, is that we know it ends.
We don't know when.
We don't know if it's 100. We don't know if it's 80. We know it ends.
So you hear 40, and you go, ooh, how close?
lil duval
How close am I? I know it's about time to wrap up.
I done went half the century.
What's the average, 100 at the most?
So I'm like, alright, I know this shit from the end pretty soon some type of way, so let me prepare.
And then I look at, I watch old people a lot, so I pay attention to them, so I see what they're going through, and I'm like, alright, it's my turn pretty soon.
joe rogan
I had John Witherspoon in earlier in the year with his son, JD. Let me do it.
There it is.
Sorry.
And he died shortly after.
He died a couple months later.
And I've known that guy for a long time.
And I remember thinking, like, he was just here.
He was, like, happy.
He had all this energy.
He was hilarious.
And then a couple months later, the lights shut off.
lil duval
That's life, man.
joe rogan
That's life.
lil duval
That quick, just like that.
In the big scheme of things, from thousands of years, it's just like that.
joe rogan
But a guy like that is this iconic figure, hilarious comedian.
It's weird that he's gone.
Why?
Because it's weird when everybody leaves.
It's like they're not in this space anymore.
It's just gone.
lil duval
I don't see it as weird, though, because I see death is just as much as life.
It's the same thing.
joe rogan
Oh, it is, yeah.
lil duval
So I don't see it as weird.
I mean, of course, emotionally, we're emotionally attached to what bothers us, you know, but at the same time, I get it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That's what I think.
I think that's the key to all this shit, understanding.
Once you understand, you just pretty much got life figured out.
joe rogan
You think you have life figured out?
I never feel like that.
I never feel like I got life figured out.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
You think you got it nailed?
lil duval
I mean, it's stuff to learn.
Like, I was just telling him stuff like this.
It just opened my mind to stuff.
He was just telling me stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, the float tank?
lil duval
But the beginning and the end is pretty much life and death.
It's just like any other thing in life.
I mean, any other thing that's living.
There's nothing, no different.
So it's like, we just think it is because this shit here make us arrogant.
joe rogan
That's true.
And I also think it's a thing, it's a manage your perceptions thing.
You know, like, you have to manage your perceptions, like, how you view things.
Like, you could freak out about things, or you could just...
lil duval
Everything's...
Perception is everything.
I mean, it's just how you look at it, and it's...
That's what keeps you sane, understanding, like, it's just how you look at it, and understanding there's no good or bad, and shit is what it is.
You just got to be on the right side.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Shit.
joe rogan
And the universe doesn't care.
It just keeps marching on.
lil duval
The universe...
Nature don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Not at all.
lil duval
Nothing's more powerful than nature, and once we realize that...
We'll be more humble.
joe rogan
You said you saw a cat's hunt on a safari?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was that like?
lil duval
I got it on my phone.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
You see him get one?
lil duval
Uh-uh.
You got to sit there for a minute.
And I didn't have no weed or nothing to sit there.
unidentified
Where were you?
lil duval
What was that?
Tanzania.
Tanzania.
I posted on my Instagram.
Oh, wow.
I try to share shit like this here because where I'm from, we never seen no shit like this.
But it was dope as fuck.
It was way more interesting than I thought it was going to be.
It's like really watching, like being in the hood and watching the fight or watching somebody get shot.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
Okay, so it'll load up.
lil duval
Yeah, it got to load up.
Give it a second.
Because it was an old iCloud.
It's on the iCloud.
Give it a second.
Unless y'all got Wi-Fi.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
I got cricket.
You know, I'm on that rich, broke lifestyle.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
But yeah, it was dope as fuck, man.
Like, just being out there.
I took a lot of pictures and shit.
I got like an Instagram page where I used to post dope pics from when I traveled and shit.
joe rogan
Did they make you take malaria medication?
lil duval
I never took nothing, nowhere I went.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
And I'm glad I didn't because I heard people that do take them shots and stuff, they get sick.
joe rogan
Real sick.
Yeah.
lil duval
Oh, thank you.
And plus, I don't eat a lot, so it ain't too much that's going to fuck me up.
I eat McDonald's wherever I go.
McDonald's is your friend when you're out the country.
I think that's it.
joe rogan
Is that you?
lil duval
That ain't it.
jamie vernon
He took this.
joe rogan
He took this one?
jamie vernon
The shot up there.
lil duval
Oh, the shot right.
joe rogan
Did you take that one too?
lil duval
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I took that pic.
joe rogan
So is this your other Instagram?
The Comedic Guy?
lil duval
Yeah, that's my other Instagram.
joe rogan
So it's just photographs?
lil duval
Photographs.
And I call it Comedic Guy because I think comedians got the best eye because we observe.
So, I mean, you should be able to take good pics if you're a comedian.
joe rogan
Wow, this meat market's intense.
Where is this at?
lil duval
That was at Zanzibar, I think.
joe rogan
What kind of meat is all that?
lil duval
Shit, I don't know.
Something I ain't finna eat.
I told you, I don't eat McDonald's, man.
I don't trust me.
Matter of fact, me and Andrew one time, we went to, we did the hip, not the hip-hop awards, shit, the MTV awards over in Europe.
And while we was over there, the crew and everything, and I traveled a lot, and they was like, man, we finna go get something to eat.
And I'm like, I ain't eating that shit.
They're like, nah, come on, let's go get something to eat.
I was like, man, you gonna fuck up.
Go over there.
Everybody, the whole crew had to go to the hospital.
I was the only one that didn't go.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
Yeah, because I don't eat that shit.
joe rogan
So they all got food poisoning.
lil duval
They all got food poisoning trying to eat.
joe rogan
Andrew too?
lil duval
I'm not sure.
He said he didn't, but I swear I told him too.
He said he didn't get it, but he might have listened to me that time.
But for the most part, I just don't eat.
When I go out to the country, I eat shit that I'm used to.
Fruit, rice, chicken, and McDonald's.
joe rogan
McDonald's, you ever see one of those cheeseburgers where they put it on a shelf for a year and they film it for a year to see if it deteriorates?
A year later it looks like it just got put there?
lil duval
That's a good thing though.
Right?
joe rogan
Maybe.
lil duval
That's like space food.
That's space food.
If space food is good for astronauts, it got to be good for us.
We be hating on McDonald's way too much.
Nobody's really died on paper from McDonald's.
joe rogan
They have from Jack in the Box.
lil duval
They died from eating a lot.
You eat anything a lot, you're going to die.
People eat fish and fat as fuck.
joe rogan
That's true.
But I think someone's died from E. coli.
I think that was Jack in the Box though, right?
They had an E. coli outbreak.
lil duval
I mean, but that could be at everything.
That could be at any restaurant, any place.
That shit that you just showed on there, I'm pretty sure it's E. coli and that shit.
They're body immune to it.
That's one thing I did learn too from traveling at the end of the day.
You can eat anything.
You just can't eat a lot of it.
When I go over to Asia, they eat everything moving.
And they live to like a hundred.
joe rogan
My kids explain this to me.
I didn't know about this.
It's called mukbang.
lil duval
What's that?
joe rogan
It's a style of video that they do in Korea, where Korea, I guess they're proper and polite when they eat.
They have good manners.
They try to do that culturally.
So they have these videos that are real popular where they just eat like slobs.
They'll eat like an octopus, and they just splatter food all over their face and make a lot of noises while they chew.
And these videos are insanely popular.
Millions and millions of views of people watching someone eat.
lil duval
That's because it's...
Well, you can't go by...
Our view of millions and their view ain't that much.
Because you gotta think it's billions of them.
So, I mean...
joe rogan
That's true.
That's true.
But it's not billions of Koreans, but I guess it's worldwide.
lil duval
It's a lot of them.
joe rogan
How many Koreans are there?
lil duval
Let's Google it.
joe rogan
It's a small country.
Relatively.
lil duval
Hey, Siri, how many Koreans are there out here?
unidentified
I'm Siri, your virtual assistant.
joe rogan
Oh.
He's a guy.
lil duval
How many Koreans population out here?
I don't know that.
unidentified
I found this on the web.
lil duval
You know, let me just do the paper, write, type it, the old-fashioned one.
unidentified
I'm gonna guess.
joe rogan
Population of Korea, 50 million.
lil duval
50 million?
joe rogan
What do I guess?
jamie vernon
51.47.
lil duval
51.47?
That's a lot.
And how many is America?
joe rogan
Very much.
330?
Is that what it is now?
lil duval
So it's more of us?
joe rogan
They don't know how many Mexicans there are.
They do not.
lil duval
You'll never figure that out.
joe rogan
You're never going to figure that out.
lil duval
You'll never figure that out.
Unless you go to a concert.
joe rogan
Good luck.
lil duval
You go to a concert, you see them all.
joe rogan
Endlessly fucked up that there's a population of people that live amongst us, can't get green cards, and if they left, like you ever see the documentary A Day Without Mexicans?
L.A. would fall apart.
L.A. would literally collapse.
lil duval
If I was them, I would do that.
Show them.
Show us.
It'll humble us.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they can't because they don't have the paperwork.
That's the thing.
They're all illegal.
If people come over here illegal in their valet parking and washing dishes and doing all these different jobs and landscaping and everything they can do, if they stopped, other people are just going to take their job.
Someone else is going to find a way out.
lil duval
Nobody's going to take a job that's paying $2 an hour.
They're not making that much.
joe rogan
Nobody other than someone else just like them that needs that opportunity, and they're all coming over.
They would have to organize, and they would have to have some resources and need to sustain themselves while they're organizing.
But the thing is, the green card thing is, there should be a way where someone can earn a green card.
I mean, if someone's been over here for all this time, doing great, having a good life, being a good part of the community, but they're still not...
lil duval
How does that work, though, like if...
If we get overpopulated.
That's a good question.
Like, what do we do then?
That's a good question.
Like, we always say, like, we got to let everybody in because that's how we got here.
But then when they get full and look like LA and traffic like a motherfucker, and then you're like, all right, go back home.
We don't want y'all, you don't want no tourists here.
We don't want no outsiders here.
So how does that work?
Like, what do we do?
There is no solution.
joe rogan
You're right.
There's no solution.
There's no perfect solution.
It's real messy.
lil duval
It's life.
joe rogan
If you wanted to make a perfect solution, what you would do is you'd have tests for everybody.
Everybody.
lil duval
But I don't know about that, because when you get over here, you're kind of slow to American thought.
Like, what would be the test?
Like, you couldn't have a test like that, because it'd be biased.
joe rogan
Maybe, but, I mean, who works harder than Mexicans?
The test doesn't just have to be on paper.
lil duval
What's the test going to be like, who can build a house?
joe rogan
Who are you?
Maybe there's a way to find out who you are.
What kind of person are you?
Are you a person that's a valuable member of the community?
lil duval
Well, nowadays with technology, they could just put something in you and scan you and figure it out.
joe rogan
Find out your thoughts.
Put you on an fMRI.
Read your brain.
lil duval
Yeah, but then you gotta figure out what would they be looking for to see if they can let you in.
joe rogan
They convicted a lady in India from a brain scan of murder.
They used an fMRI and they said that through this machine they were able to detect functional knowledge of the murder.
lil duval
Ain't that Minority Report?
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
That's that movie, ain't it?
joe rogan
I don't think it's real, though.
I think they just didn't understand the science.
lil duval
If they wrote something about it, it can happen or it's gonna happen.
joe rogan
Oh, it's going to happen.
I definitely think it's going to happen.
But I think that where they're at right now, if this person really did get convicted, I don't think they really understand the science.
I think they're just convicting them because someone said it makes sense, and then there's not enough people that actually understand how little you actually can read.
Like, she could have been told about the scene and then developed a functional memory.
lil duval
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Because you're reading something in the brain that's not clearly defined yet.
lil duval
It's just like if you told me something, I'd be like, well, somebody told me after a while, if you keep replaying in your head, you think you told yourself.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
You think maybe it was your story and it was somebody else's story.
That shit happens to people.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially like minor shit from like 20 years ago.
And then your friend's like, I told you that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
lil duval
Shit, last week.
Last week.
Remember I told you?
Oh yeah, I told you that.
That happened to me on Instagram all the time.
I post something 10 years ago, a tweet, and the next thing I know somebody else do it, and then I bring it back.
They say, I got it from them.
Like, bitch, I made it up.
Like, the fuck?
joe rogan
Memory's a strange thing.
It's a very strange thing.
lil duval
That's the reason why I like technology, too, because it kind of keeps our brain in here.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
lil duval
It keeps our brain in here, so you just got to pay for it.
You got to pay for your brain, the iCloud.
That's really our brain.
But it kind of solves all time or two.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
It really is kind of my brain.
It's where everything gets stored.
lil duval
You have to pay for your brain for the rest of your life.
joe rogan
And that video of that line, it's just like one of those fucked up old memories.
lil duval
Yeah, it's like, hold on, what is in there?
Stay woke.
You said you don't feel like you got life figured out.
Why not?
joe rogan
I was just endlessly confused by all of it.
I mean, I understand it.
You live, you die.
I understand how to be nice to people.
I understand what's good and bad.
I understand, you know, what it takes to be creative.
lil duval
I thought that about you, but like, so what, you feel like you missing something?
joe rogan
No, it's still bizarre as fuck.
When you look at it, when you really look at what it is, it's bizarre as fuck.
All these random interactions taking place simultaneously amongst billions of people swarming on a planet that's spinning and twirling through infinity, going through the galaxy.
lil duval
But that's what all the stars are.
When you see all that and you notice all that, you realize we are pretty much an ant in the big scheme of things.
Smaller than an ant.
We're just out here, so it makes no sense to put that much thought into this bullshit.
It's like, fuck it.
Like, it is what it is.
I mean...
joe rogan
That's true, too.
Yeah, it's not like I want to think about it all the time, but I just do.
lil duval
I do it out of boredom.
Like, I'm damn near wanna go to Mars and all that shit, you know?
But I just don't wanna be the only nigga up there.
joe rogan
Mars is too long, man.
That's six months.
lil duval
Yeah, I know that.
unidentified
I thought about that.
lil duval
I don't want to be there six months unless it's a party on that goddamn shit.
joe rogan
Even if it is.
lil duval
That shit gotta be lit.
joe rogan
Bro, think about that.
lil duval
Think about this.
What if the Earth was moving there now?
We own the party bus now.
joe rogan
Right.
We are in the party bus.
lil duval
We're in the party bus.
joe rogan
It is a spaceship.
lil duval
They don't tell us nothing, and then when we get there, they be like, alright, we're here.
joe rogan
Yeah, because if you think about it, Earth is like a spaceship, like a convertible spaceship.
There's just no roof.
lil duval
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, the only thing that saves us is the atmosphere.
lil duval
That's real, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How much would a space should be different?
It'd be like an apartment complex versus a whole city.
lil duval
Honestly, they could be doing it.
That's what them motherfucking billionaires should be trying to do.
Move this goddamn earth out the way.
Just push it where we want to go.
Wouldn't that make more sense?
joe rogan
You'd have to bring the sun with it.
lil duval
Yeah, we can break the sun.
How does the sun, how come, maybe I'm just being retarded or something, but how does the sun heat the earth up, but not the moon?
Like, why the moon cold?
joe rogan
Moon doesn't have an atmosphere.
The atmosphere is what captures the heat.
lil duval
But, yeah, that's what captures it, but so the heat ain't out there in space?
joe rogan
Well, the heat is on the moon.
The moon in the sun, it's 250 degrees, and in the shade, it's 250 degrees below zero.
lil duval
So the moon never turns neither.
It's always like just stuck in one position.
joe rogan
Yes.
lil duval
And it's the moon is stuck in one position.
joe rogan
Right.
lil duval
I'm trying to picture it.
Hold up.
It's the moon and the earth.
joe rogan
And then the sun.
lil duval
And then the sun.
joe rogan
So everything's revolving around the sun.
The thing is the moon revolves around the sun like this.
Like it's always doing the same thing.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Earth spins.
lil duval
So it's a piece of the moon that's hot.
joe rogan
There's the sun.
If you get in the sun, the sun spot, the bright spot of the moon, it's 250 degrees.
If you get in the shade, it's 250 degrees below zero.
It's a giant fluctuation.
lil duval
So there is a sun part on it.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
It gets very hot on the moon.
The thing is, they're protected, or they're not, rather, they're not protected by an atmosphere.
So we have an atmosphere.
The atmosphere, the magnetosphere, the oxygen, the nitrogen, all that stuff filters out all the heat and captures it and keeps us steady.
That's one of the reasons why we're here.
lil duval
I understand why the moon...
From scuba diving, I understand how the moon's important for the ocean and all that.
But I'm just wondering...
I was sitting there watching my favorite movie, Intercell, and I was just...
That's a good movie.
Yeah, that's a good movie, and I watched that...
joe rogan
Underrated.
lil duval
It's definitely, it's really, that is life.
Like, it's pretty much what it is.
But I was watching that, and I was watching In A Mankind, that new one that's on Apple Plus.
I was watching that, and it's on the moon, and I'm just looking at it, and I'm like, where the sun at?
And if the sun would start making me think like that, but...
I appreciate you telling me that.
Now I can look at it some more.
joe rogan
See, there's no atmosphere, and the atmosphere is the reason why we have blue skies.
lil duval
Yeah, I know all that, but I thought that was stopping it from burning us up.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It stops us.
It helps us from getting burnt because we have an atmosphere, yes.
But on the moon, it's hot as fuck.
lil duval
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So the moon is hot.
It do get hot on the moon.
joe rogan
And it also gets insanely cold.
lil duval
Okay.
joe rogan
Like, if you go in the shade, it's fucking cold as shit.
250 degrees below zero.
lil duval
You ain't never want to go out of space?
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd like to go and just see.
I'd like to go over the lip.
lil duval
That's my goal.
That's my goal in life.
Like, I just want to do a selfie with the earth behind me.
joe rogan
That's going to happen.
lil duval
That's it.
joe rogan
That's going to be available real soon.
lil duval
Yeah, I've seen it's like $250 now, right?
I'm saving up.
joe rogan
Is that what it is now?
lil duval
I think a quarter million.
joe rogan
Who takes you on?
Like Virgin?
Virgin.
lil duval
Yeah, you get to go out there and then come down.
joe rogan
So this is something they're already doing?
jamie vernon
I've been sure to pay attention to find out that day.
joe rogan
I am buying a ticket for Eddie Bravo.
lil duval
Nah, I definitely want one for real.
I'm going to start a GoFund and tell them to put me up there.
Tell all the black people to put me up there.
joe rogan
How long have they been doing this?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
There's another company I know in the Arizona area.
lil duval
That's what they're doing.
They're having a race.
jamie vernon
It has a platform or something.
lil duval
A race for outer space, man.
joe rogan
So is this the Virgin Jet?
This is the Virgin Jet.
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's another company that's got like a balloon that's going to shoot people kind of like straight up and come back down.
lil duval
Yeah, I saw that one too.
joe rogan
Did you see how it did that?
It rides on top of a plane and then it lets go?
lil duval
Man, he cool as fuck to me.
If I had money like that, I would be kind of like this motherfucker here.
joe rogan
Look at what they see.
Look where they go.
Holy shit.
lil duval
That's what I want to do.
unidentified
I've seen this.
lil duval
Yeah, I've seen this.
Twice.
jamie vernon
Like you get to go like a roller coaster, like two lips up there, maybe.
unidentified
Like 10 minutes, maybe 20. That's my goal right there.
jamie vernon
Not a lot.
lil duval
That's all I need right there, just to talk shit and stunt.
You motherfuckers ain't never did this, though.
joe rogan
That would be the ultimate.
lil duval
Stunt on there.
joe rogan
Stunt above the earth.
lil duval
That shit hard as fuck.
And I want to prove all the flat earthers.
That's what I'm saying.
You dumb fucks!
I want to show them so bad, you stupid motherfuckers!
joe rogan
Yes!
lil duval
I want to do that so bad.
It's shit on them.
joe rogan
I can't believe that's a real thing.
lil duval
Me neither, man.
I got a house in the Bahamas.
At nighttime, you can really see how round the earth is because it's so pitch black.
When you walk out the yard at night, it feels like you're out of space.
And you can really see how round the earth is.
It's damn near stupid how people don't...
Don't believe that it's real.
joe rogan
People want to believe shit is a trick.
People want to believe everything is a lie.
lil duval
People didn't think America was here when it was over in the years.
That's true.
They didn't.
So it's just like people don't think outer space.
It's hard to think that far because then when you think that far, you got to think about it.
You don't want to think.
joe rogan
The people that didn't think America was here, at least they have the benefit.
There was no photographs.
They had never been.
They don't know anybody who's been.
So it probably was way more of a question whether or not America existed versus whether or not the earth is round.
The earth is round.
You can see it.
It's not hard.
They have satellites that take a photo of it every 10 minutes.
The idea that all that's fake is so crazy.
The idea that every mission is fake, every space station mission, every satellite, all that's fake.
Like, why?
These guys...
And the weird thing is, a lot of the dudes that are doing it, they're like super Christian.
A lot of the flat earth people, they're super Christian.
They think that this is all like the idea that we're in space, that we're on a flat ball to keep us from God.
Like, what are...
It doesn't make any sense.
lil duval
You have to keep...
I mean, in religion, and I do believe in religion, but in religion, you have to keep them in a certain space to keep their mind focused on that right there because otherwise they...
You can't tell everybody everything.
joe rogan
No.
lil duval
Because then they'll go crazy.
That's true.
That's why I believe in religion.
I really do.
For normal people.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
It gives people help.
It gives people hope.
lil duval
Anything that's going to bring you the love and peace, you can't be mad at it.
joe rogan
I feel like it's something that helps...
Evolution, almost like a vehicle for aiding evolution to take us out of our barbarian days into our civilized days and then transcend.
lil duval
But this is religion, what we're doing right here.
joe rogan
You think so?
lil duval
I know so, because we're conveying and talking and preaching, pretty much.
This is.
I mean, this is our evolution of, I believe, where we're at.
We're at the evolution of entertainment and conversation is like our Bible.
And that's what we're doing with social media.
I tweet my shit like that.
I tweet it thinking like 100 years from now, somebody's going to read this shit like we read higher graphics.
joe rogan
Okay, so I see what you're saying.
So it's all of our way of talking shit out and figuring things out.
The same how religion was, and that's why they established these parameters.
lil duval
Yes, because you understand, all right, if you go this way, this is what's going to happen.
So I got to tell them this.
It's like a child.
You're not going to tell them all the truth.
Because if you tell them, they ain't ready for it.
And that's what religion is.
Like, alright, I ain't gonna tell them that God was...
I mean, that Jesus was really a regular person.
Because if you do, ain't nobody gonna trust no regular person.
I gotta make this motherfucker amazing.
Walk on earth, walk on water, and then you'll trust it.
You know what I'm saying?
But if he just like me and you, he fuck up.
No one wants, you don't want to see a fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially back then when everybody knew that no one knew what the fuck was going on and they were, you know, they made up of, I mean, not that any of the gods aren't made up, but they'd make up gods.
They were the god for thunder, the god of war, the god of this, the god of that, and all these gods battling out over destiny.
They were just guessing.
lil duval
They was bored.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That's all that shit.
That's where all this shit come from, boredom.
This shit we doing right now, this is boredom.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
For sure.
This is...
I mean, it is funny that what people do today when they talk is kind of like they're trying to figure things out and reestab...
Like, that's one of the...
There's so much change going on with the way people communicate.
lil duval
Man, the thing that fucks us up is our brain.
joe rogan
For sure.
lil duval
We are more nature than...
We are more this than we are this.
This is...
Like, this is just...
Everything we're talking about, we're just speaking.
Just talking...
Just talking shit we done thought a thousand times and regurgitating, but what really makes us how we move, what we do.
It's about how your actions, your actions really much, you're creatures of habit.
That's what it really tells you.
I'm talking all day.
I can say, I'm a good guy.
But if I don't show it, I ain't that person.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And the other thing that you just said, we're creatures.
We're creatures.
That's the other thing.
Human beings want to think of ourselves as something separate.
We're definitely creatures.
lil duval
We do the exact same thing everything do.
Live and die.
joe rogan
We just do it weirder than anybody else.
lil duval
We do it weirder than everybody else.
That's the...
I bet every other creature be looking at us like, look at these motherfuckers.
They just...
Look at them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
lil duval
All they do is get up, shit, fucking die.
That's it.
joe rogan
Get high.
Play video games.
lil duval
Do they get high?
joe rogan
Watch movies.
Animals?
No.
lil duval
Us.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's what they're saying to us.
lil duval
Yeah, we fight.
Care about shit that don't matter.
joe rogan
We fight for sport.
lil duval
But this is the most entertaining shit ever.
I wouldn't get this shit up for nothing.
joe rogan
No, it's enjoyable.
We're at a great time, too.
lil duval
I love watching this shit.
I love life.
That's the only reason I want to live long.
joe rogan
Because you enjoy it.
lil duval
I want to see how this shit going to play out.
joe rogan
How do you think it's going to play out?
lil duval
You never know.
It's all about human's emotions.
Because it can go either way.
But I know...
I mean...
I think it's going to play out weird.
It's not going to be...
It's not the same world that it was 50 years ago.
It's not going to be the same world.
It's going to be a totally different world.
And I just want to look at it and be like...
I remember I did that one day I was at, in Vegas, at, what's that place where everybody be performing?
Drea's.
joe rogan
Drea's?
lil duval
Drea's.
We was at there, and you know, they got the outside club, and I'm looking at it, and I remember going to Vegas 20 years ago, and I'm like, damn, this shit look like the future.
Like, now it looks like how I thought it was going to look 20 years ago, and I was thinking about all the people that didn't see this.
joe rogan
Mmm, right, right.
lil duval
Shit!
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
I got to stay to see how this shit going to be after this.
Like, I want to see it.
Even if I'm locked, y'all like this here, I just want to see.
I want to have my memory.
That's all I want.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you could take a performer from the 1950s from Vegas, the old school performers.
You know, Frank Sinatra.
And bring him to 2019. They'd be like, what the fuck?
What the fuck happened?
lil duval
They'd be like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Someone hands him a pamphlet of girls that'll come to your room.
They're like, what the fuck?
lil duval
It'll be a different world, man.
It'll be...
Shit.
joe rogan
What is it gonna be?
What's it gonna be 20, 50 years from now?
lil duval
I think humans gonna all be one.
Like men and women, it's going to be one.
We're going to evolve into one.
joe rogan
Like aliens.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like when you see those aliens, the little gray guys, they always have no dick.
lil duval
We're getting closer and closer.
Like even if you look at Asians, you can't really tell a boy from a girl.
Like you really can't.
They all look like they got the same structure.
I think Asians are the oldest people on earth, so they evolved way before.
So we're coming around to it.
joe rogan
The crazy thing about...
lil duval
They're definitely 100 years ahead of everybody on earth.
joe rogan
Well, they definitely are for technology, for all the things they created.
We talked about this yesterday, like a million firsts came out of China.
lil duval
Everything came out of China, man.
Like, they ahead of us.
joe rogan
They were way ahead.
They were ahead with gunpowder.
They were ahead with everything.
lil duval
That's what I learned.
If you want to see how the future going to look, go over there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You'll see it.
joe rogan
Future looks overpopulated.
lil duval
That's how I think about America.
joe rogan
You see that shit that's going on in Hong Kong?
lil duval
Uh-uh.
What happened?
joe rogan
You see the protests?
lil duval
No, I ain't seen it.
joe rogan
They've been protesting in Hong Kong for how long now?
Months?
lil duval
For what?
joe rogan
For months.
Well, their government is changing.
They used to be under British rule.
Now they're under Chinese rule.
And that happened, I think, in the 90s.
And there was a...
Was it in the 90s?
Whatever it was, there was a lot of issues with the Chinese government running them the way they run China.
And the people from Hong Kong wanted to be back the way it used to be when it was run by Britain.
And they're extraditing people.
They're doing things where...
And then the protests have been violent.
The cops have been shooting people.
It's like a lot of crazy shit.
And then there's a lot of video of this.
And the streets are filled.
I mean, just filled with people protesting every day.
And it's...
I mean, it's not something that comes up too much in the news.
How often do you hear about this in the news?
lil duval
What can we do about it, though?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
We just watch it play out just like we do with everything else, with Vegas.
lil duval
That's why I don't get too much into that type of shit, because if I can't change it, it's like, what the fuck I'm going to do?
The only thing I can do is change what I think the future is going to be.
That shit there is some shit that was planned 50 years ago.
joe rogan
That's true.
You can't change it.
But it's also true that it's fascinating.
lil duval
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, to me it is.
It's because I'm watching a group of people with no power try to overcome a tyrannical government.
lil duval
That's happened before in other countries.
You know, it's happened plenty of times.
And some won, some lost.
It's just you got to figure out what...
If you're trying to make it not happen to us, we got to figure out why it happened like this and try not to make that happen over here for our butterfly fit.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's one of the reasons why a lot of...
Gun advocates are very happy.
Not very happy that this is happening, but happy to use it as an example of what happens when you have an unarmed population and an armed military that sort of tells it what to do and there's nothing you can do but get in the streets.
lil duval
I believe in gun law.
I just don't see the point.
Like, who's not going to get a gun now if you make it illegal?
joe rogan
Right.
lil duval
The people that shouldn't get one.
joe rogan
Exactly.
lil duval
The people that don't get them, they're going to get illegal guns anyway.
Not me.
Yeah, not me.
But, I mean, you can get illegal guns anyway.
But the people, the law-abiding citizens, you make that law, now they can't get one.
So it's stupid at this point.
And then people can YouTube and make a gun.
Like, it's just stupid.
joe rogan
Have you seen that shit?
When they make them with 3D printers?
lil duval
Yeah.
I've seen it on YouTube.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But remember, there was a guy who got in real big trouble because he released the designs.
Remember that, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Mm-hmm.
I think it was a torrent, was it?
unidentified
Something like that.
jamie vernon
Or it was supposed to be, and I think they were arguing that you should be able to do that.
joe rogan
It's essentially a plan.
lil duval
You can go out in another country and make a YouTube page and do it.
The way the world is so connected, you can do pretty much anything you want if you know what you can do.
joe rogan
Yeah, nowadays.
lil duval
Oh, that was a good tweet.
What did I say?
You can do what you want.
joe rogan
Anything you want to do if you know...
lil duval
I'll watch this and then post it.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
We're about 34 minutes in.
lil duval
34 minutes in.
joe rogan
You didn't start smoking weed until four years ago?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
lil duval
I never smoked.
I never drank.
I mean, I drunk every blue moon like on my birthday, but I don't drink.
I hate liquor.
I hate the way it tastes.
joe rogan
So what happened?
lil duval
We're smoking?
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Well, when I was younger, everybody did it.
So that was one reason I didn't want to do it.
Because everybody was on drugs and all that.
My daddy used to do crack and all that.
So I was against drugs.
So as I grew up, I just never gave a fuck about it as much as everybody else did.
But I used to love the way it smelled.
You know, like I love the way it smells.
I used to be in the room just smelling the shit.
And then after a while, then once I got to a point in my life where I was like, I can't fall off.
Like, this is the worst my life gonna get.
It's like, alright, I'll try it.
And then that was the best thing that ever happened to me.
Trying that shit.
joe rogan
When you tried it, were you like, what the fuck was I... Yeah, I should have been doing this shit.
Yeah, all along.
lil duval
Yeah, because when I first did it, I didn't get high.
Because, like, I tried to get the soft shit.
I was scared.
Like, I was like, it's going to do something.
And I was like, this shit ain't doing shit.
I always smoked everybody that was with us.
You know, I was just smoking, smoking, smoking.
And then once I started really getting into it, I was like, this shit is really, what's up?
joe rogan
What are the laws down in Atlanta?
lil duval
I don't know.
Shit.
Don't those niggas know the law?
You know what?
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's just so stupid, it's illegal anywhere.
lil duval
Everything is stupid, man.
All this shit.
Just make all drugs legal.
joe rogan
Well, that's the only thing that's going to stop the cartels.
lil duval
I don't know what this shit I just smoked, but that shit good as hell.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Kevin Smith's shit.
That's, uh, what does he call it, Jamie?
Do you know?
lil duval
Jay and Bob.
jamie vernon
They all have different little names on them, I think.
lil duval
That shit has some what's name on it.
jamie vernon
Berserker.
joe rogan
Snoogans.
This one says Snoogans.
lil duval
This shit good in a bitch.
joe rogan
This is the indica one.
Oh, you smoked the indica one.
Black one's the indica one.
lil duval
Yeah, I like black.
I like indicas.
joe rogan
Indicas, to me, they slow me down.
lil duval
That's what I need.
joe rogan
That's what you want.
lil duval
That's what I need.
I really do need it.
It does slow me down.
I was way hyper.
I was doing way more thinking, too.
I was wild.
joe rogan
About too much shit, you mean?
lil duval
No, not too much.
I was just wild.
I don't even say wild in a bad way.
I just say wild.
I was saying way too much that I shouldn't be saying, especially in this day and age, when people be in their feelings and shit.
Not that I give a fuck, but when you're trying to help people, you want to teach them the right way.
joe rogan
What do you think happened?
What you just said, that people are in their feelings today.
What do you think happened?
Why do people get so sensitive?
lil duval
Because we're attached to our emotions more, and we don't do that much thinking.
What changed?
unidentified
Uh...
lil duval
Social media?
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
A lot of it.
But I don't like to blame it on social media because it's just an evolution because they say the same thing about television and all that shit.
But I just think it's the use of it to the public.
I think that's what it is.
I think now every person in this...
It opened up our minds...
It's just new to the society as one, but over time it'll evolve and we'll get smart enough and figure it out and it won't be that much.
Humans are still learning their feelings now.
Especially in America, they're still learning their feelings.
Asians ain't got their feelings no more.
So now we're just at our stage of still learning our feelings and hating each other and all that shit.
Once that does settle, then it'll come evolve naturally.
joe rogan
Louis C.K. had a real good point about this.
He was saying that what you have on Twitter, we've always had, is just people talk.
Sometimes people talk and they say shit that's dumb.
They say nonsense.
This is kind of like the same thing.
They're just talking.
lil duval
It's the exact same thing.
joe rogan
It doesn't mean anything.
It's just talking.
lil duval
Everything is the same thing.
We all want the same thing.
We just want it packaged different.
And that's what I learned on social media.
That's why I was on it quick because I learned it.
I figured it out.
I'd seen like, oh shit, this is the new real estate.
This is where it's going.
So I applied that to the social media and internet and that's how it worked so good for me.
It's the same thing because nothing changes.
You just got to figure out what it is and take it from the old and apply it to the new.
joe rogan
I feel about it like two ways.
I feel, well, I enjoy social media.
I think it's a good thing overall.
But I think that all the complaining is because people are getting, they have a voice now.
They didn't have a voice before.
And they also get rewarded for complaining.
lil duval
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
But it don't last long.
It doesn't last long.
lil duval
It filters out.
joe rogan
But it's also annoying.
So eventually what happens is people are going to wake up to it.
And what this is is just a new level of communication.
Because everybody can communicate now with almost everybody.
It's real close to everybody to everybody.
lil duval
But it's getting better though.
Because 10 years ago, they was real sensitive.
I remember on Twitter.
But now...
We got points like now, people like Dave Chappelle can put out a special talking real shit, and people take it for what it is.
Well, five years ago, you had to be like Kevin Hart, you know?
So it's like now you can really speak your mind.
So it's evolving.
It did bring out the whole ass motherfuckers at the same time.
After a while, you'd be like, all right, now.
Like Bill Burchard, that shit was genius to me.
Like, he can say that now.
Like, five years ago, that special wouldn't have worked as much as it would have got beat down.
But now it's like, alright.
joe rogan
The tide's turning.
lil duval
Yeah, it's turning.
So it just takes time.
It takes time for people to get it.
It takes time for people to warm up to what they don't want to accept.
joe rogan
Yes, I 100% agree.
And I think overall, the more reasonable way of looking at things is going to prevail because the dummies won't be as good for me.
lil duval
The cream will rise to the top.
You just got to be patient.
joe rogan
Yes.
lil duval
You just got to be patient.
joe rogan
Yes.
lil duval
Trust me, I know.
I'm a patient motherfucker.
joe rogan
Well, you are with those Indicas.
lil duval
Yeah, I love this shit.
joe rogan
Indicas, that's a patient type of weed.
How long you been scuba diving?
lil duval
About 10 years now.
joe rogan
Yeah?
lil duval
About 10 years.
And that's where I learned about life, through scuba diving.
joe rogan
Yeah?
lil duval
Scuba diving let me know I didn't know shit.
joe rogan
How deep do you go down?
lil duval
The deepest I've been?
Like 130. But there ain't nothing down there.
When you get to that point, ain't nothing living down there.
The only thing you might see is shipwrecks and shit like that.
joe rogan
That's so fucking deep.
Yeah, it is.
Is this you?
There you go.
Oh, so you went down there and take pictures?
Can you bring an iPhone down there or no?
lil duval
That's in Iceland.
Nah, not that deep.
That was the tectonic plates.
The only place on earth where you can touch North America and Europe.
joe rogan
Oh my god, what if it ground right while you're there?
lil duval
And honestly, I don't even think you can do it no more because they say it spreads a centimeter every year of some shit.
So it's separating apart.
joe rogan
Like Pangea, right?
You know the theory of Pangea?
lil duval
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
All the continents at one point in time, a long time ago, were all connected.
lil duval
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
They all spread apart.
They actually can piece them back together and form one landmass.
lil duval
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
But that's another piece that we're still splitting as we speak.
joe rogan
Yeah, this motherfucker's moving.
They're always finding shit, right?
They're always finding offshore, find a city.
lil duval
It's there.
There's a lot of places that we don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
lil duval
We're more into business than we're into life.
joe rogan
Well, especially this aspect of life, that things are constantly in transition and constantly changing.
When you find cities under oceans...
lil duval
When you see shit like this here, you know we're thinking backwards.
It's like, we should care about this more than we care about that, because...
Natural disaster shows us every time.
It's like, we ants.
joe rogan
Well, you're living in a good spot.
lil duval
Boom.
joe rogan
You're living in Atlanta.
I mean, you have to deal with hurricanes.
lil duval
Shit, that hurricane almost hit me in Bahamas, my house.
joe rogan
Did it?
lil duval
It hit, and I moved, um, the last day, it was coming, it was coming directly to my house, and it moved 10 miles up and missed me.
unidentified
Wow.
lil duval
About 10, 10, 20 miles, and it hit Abaco and all that shit.
joe rogan
How much of the Bahamas got hit?
lil duval
Just that island of, I think, Freeport and Abaco.
Abaco got hit real bad, though.
That shit like natural disaster type shit.
joe rogan
Like wiped out, right?
lil duval
Wipe out type shit.
joe rogan
Are they getting worse?
Do you think that hurricanes are getting worse?
lil duval
I don't know.
I think just nature is doing what it's due.
It's nature.
That's like a little grasshopper saying, you think the humans are getting worse?
They can't control us and we can't control nature.
joe rogan
Yeah, but these fucking hurricanes, I think what's causing them is the ocean water and the land is warmer.
lil duval
It's definitely that.
I mean, that's just what this earth is.
It's going to definitely die or do something eventually, but there's nothing we can do to stop it.
We can slow it down.
That's why they're trying to find other earths, so we can move out this motherfucker and go somewhere else.
joe rogan
We're so far away from that, though.
lil duval
Yeah, we're so far away from the earth ending, too.
It should be in our lifetime.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Even though I do believe we need to save the earth more so than anything.
joe rogan
Well, we definitely need to save it for ourselves.
It's going to be fine if we go extinct.
lil duval
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's going to be fine with or without us.
joe rogan
Even if we blow ourselves up, Earth's going to be fine.
Earth's going to be A-OK. As far as life, yeah, we've got to save life.
We've got to save this process.
No signs of life.
Volcanic eruption kills five.
Eight missing.
jamie vernon
You didn't see this this morning?
Earthquake.
joe rogan
New Zealand?
jamie vernon
Yeah, New Zealand.
There were people on it when it happened.
joe rogan
Volcano eruption kills five, eight missing.
People died on top of a volcano.
jamie vernon
I was watching the news.
lil duval
Where was this?
New Zealand?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they had three tour boats that were there.
There was up to 100 people that were there right before it exploded.
They would take tours into the crater where you could be like, oh, look at it bubbling.
Two tour boats had just left.
That's why they had this video of it going off.
lil duval
Oh, fuck.
jamie vernon
It's literally like they're right there.
So there's one boat of people that was still there, and that's why people have died.
lil duval
This ain't our world, baby.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't say eight missing.
That's eight dead people.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they took some drones and were trying to see if they could go help people.
lil duval
You know what's so crazy, though?
America hasn't had one yet.
That'll fuck us up.
joe rogan
We're talking about that.
lil duval
Mentally.
Like, we're not ready for it.
Like, other countries, they get them bitches every year.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
We ain't ready for it.
I mean, in the Bahamas, it happens so much.
This is the worst that's ever happened.
But it happens so much that you understand you're not big as nature.
America hasn't had it.
joe rogan
There's definitely spots that don't, like L.A. L.A. does not have it.
But Mount St. Helens had a big volcano eruption back in the day.
Remember?
A bunch of people died.
lil duval
Not in modern day time?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It was like 1980s.
lil duval
I don't think in this society, man, we couldn't do it.
joe rogan
When was Mount St. Helens eruption?
lil duval
There's no way to get everybody out the way, neither.
I don't give a fuck how much we try to plan it.
joe rogan
Well, the big one is Yellowstone.
lil duval
Yeah, 1980. Y'all talking about earthquakes?
joe rogan
No.
Volcano.
There was a volcano eruption in 1980. Mount St. Helens.
In Washington State.
I remember that when I was a kid.
That was a big one, man.
That was like right before I was in ninth grade.
So I was probably in eighth grade when this was going on.
lil duval
Did anybody die?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, a bunch of people died.
Yeah, it was a scary one.
lil duval
Is it a city?
joe rogan
No, no, it's a mountain, you know, but there's enough people that live near it that got jacked.
lil duval
Like, if that hurricane would have hit New York, that would have fucked up America.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
lil duval
I don't even think they realize if that hurricane would have...
Well, it did, because I was up there when it hit.
It wasn't bad.
It was a tropical storm, but...
joe rogan
But do you remember when Tribeca flooded a few years ago in New York?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
Remember Shane Smith from Vice had a video of it?
lil duval
Was it during that hurricane?
joe rogan
It was during, after one of the storms.
And the entire area of Tribeca was like underwater.
Like people go in their apartment complexes.
The first four feet of the lobby would be filled with water.
So you'd be sloshing through water to get up to the stairs, elevators down, that kind of shit.
lil duval
So just imagine a hurricane hit that big.
joe rogan
Exactly.
A real one.
unidentified
A real one.
joe rogan
Like the one that hit the Bahamas.
lil duval
Bahamians...
They understand how to live and bring it back.
Americans don't even know how to do nothing.
The only people that'll be alright probably is the Amish.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean if it starts from scratch?
lil duval
It starts from scratch again.
We'd be fucked, man.
We don't know what to do.
My daughter, I got an old school, like a 75 Caprice.
Was it my 72?
My 72 Caprice, I had my daughter in my car.
She didn't know what this was.
joe rogan
Rolling down the window?
lil duval
Rolling down the window.
Like, motherfuckers wouldn't know what to do.
Matter of fact, funny, Andrew, I was trying to get directions here because my shit was fucking up.
It was so weird.
He'd give me directions by voice.
Alright, you're going to see a light.
You're going to turn left.
The old school way.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
lil duval
We don't even know how to use those little simple things.
We don't know east, west, north, south.
joe rogan
When I first used to get gigs, I used to get a notepad.
And they would call me up on the phone.
They'd go, okay, here's the directions.
You're going to take the this to the that.
You're going to take that for six miles.
And that's how you got to every gig.
And you would write the direction down on a piece of paper.
And I would have like a folder.
For all the different times that I went to these places.
lil duval
That's one of the reasons why I live on the island a lot is to keep my mind...
On some regular shit.
Like, my mind is, if I don't need it on this island, I don't really need it.
So I learn how to, so if worst case scenario happened, I could still survive.
joe rogan
So if you get stuck on the island, the rest of the world falls apart.
lil duval
Oh, if the rest of the world falls apart, I could still survive like an Amish motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Not saying I know how to cook, like, kill animals and shit like that, because I ain't good at that yet.
I still want to learn how to...
How to clean a deer.
I want to learn how to do that type of shit.
But for the most part, I can get some fish.
I know how to fish.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, in the Bahamas, that's all you're going to need anyway, right?
lil duval
Yeah.
And chicken.
joe rogan
Chicken.
Chicken and fish.
lil duval
Chicken and fish.
joe rogan
And you could probably have chickens just run around out there.
There's no predators, right?
lil duval
Mmm, snakes.
What have I seen out there?
It might probably, you know, a rich motherfucker might be bringing some type of animal up there.
You know, they put pigs in the water and shit.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Oh, that's right.
That's the place where, is that the Bahamas where all the wild pigs are?
They come up and people feed them?
lil duval
Yeah, it's a tourist spot.
Now, I remember I used to go there.
It used to be just me and the pigs getting high.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
How long ago was that?
lil duval
About five years ago when I first started.
Because that's the first place I went back when I started smoking.
When I started smoking, I said I want to go everywhere I went before and get hotter.
joe rogan
Wow.
lil duval
And that shit was one of the places.
joe rogan
Why do they have wild pigs swimming around there?
lil duval
Tourists.
They get tourists there.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
It's just like in scuba diving.
They start just throwing shit in the ocean.
Like what?
Like little statues and shit.
Throw it in the ocean and you go look at it and people be...
It's just for pictures.
joe rogan
Oh, so they put it in there to try to get more people to scuva dive.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trinkets and shit.
lil duval
Yeah, and then it ended up becoming a coral reef and shit like that over time.
So it kind of is good, but at the same time, it's really, that's the only reason why they put it in there.
People to pay for touring.
joe rogan
It's a weird way to get people, just throw pigs in the ocean.
lil duval
It's weird that people will go all over the country.
unidentified
I've heard people talk about it in LA. There's pictures on my Instagram on the...
joe rogan
Those pigs will fuck you up, too.
If you're around them and you don't feed them, they'll bite you in your ass.
lil duval
That's a pig.
Motherfucker will be picking them up, taking pictures.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so dangerous.
lil duval
They be fucking with them.
They got to stop.
I be seeing them trying to get them drunk and shit.
You got to stop that.
Come on.
joe rogan
Come on.
So they feed those pigs every day?
Is that like a daily thing?
lil duval
The tourists do.
I mean, so many tourists come in there, they give them stuff, throw them a little bread and shit.
joe rogan
So they're almost tame.
lil duval
Yeah, they kind of evolved with it.
They used to it.
They come in and swim.
Then they got iguanas on there.
I think Nicolas Cage used to own that island, but he probably sold it.
unidentified
Look at that.
lil duval
Yeah, I took that picture.
joe rogan
That's a great picture, man.
Do they get food?
What do they eat out there besides what the people bring?
lil duval
That's all I know.
joe rogan
So it's just what the people give them.
lil duval
Yeah, and they have tourist boats every day.
joe rogan
I wonder how they control their population.
How do they keep them from exploding?
lil duval
What you mean?
joe rogan
Pigs make a lot of babies.
lil duval
Yeah, and they eat them.
What you think they do when the motherfucker gets big?
All right, next!
joe rogan
Oh, so the people on the island eat them.
Yeah.
lil duval
They're still pigs, I guess.
I mean, shit.
They're still bacon.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're still good food.
So they feed them.
That's kind of a wild way to grow hogs.
lil duval
Don't that motherfucker look like a tiger?
I just looked at this one.
They look like tiger pigs.
joe rogan
They do look weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that happens to regular pigs if you let them wild.
lil duval
Man, pigs do look nasty, but they so fucking good.
joe rogan
I mean, delicious.
lil duval
Like the bacon?
joe rogan
Yes.
lil duval
Good as fuck.
I love it.
joe rogan
I had some bacon recently from pigs that they gave chocolate milk and hazelnuts to.
They fed them chocolate milk and hazelnuts.
lil duval
And do it taste better?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Honestly, I think it just tasted like bacon.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It's like a Ferrero Rocher bacon.
You know what those little things are called?
Those Ferrero...
I don't know how to say it.
It's a hazelnut chocolate thing like that.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
jamie vernon
Ferrero Rocher or something.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I can't really determine what that tastes like.
But it was just bacon.
Pigs have a lot of babies, man.
What's weird about the pigs is they're all one thing.
Like wild pigs and domestic pigs, they're all the same thing.
lil duval
Hulk?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They just get weird when they get wild.
Their body changes.
Their hair grows longer, their nose grows longer, their tusks grow longer, just from being wild.
And it happens like immediately.
They could be out there for a couple months.
lil duval
Oh, just naturally does that?
joe rogan
Yep.
Domestic pig.
You let him go and live in the wild.
When he knows he's on his own, there's a shift that happens in his biology and his hair starts growing thicker and his nose starts growing longer.
lil duval
That's what scientists can use there for something.
joe rogan
Yeah, for people.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
lil duval
Like when we go out there, we're just going to naturally grow horns.
joe rogan
Well, we're going to get meaner.
We're going to revert back to what we used to be when we had a hunt and gather.
lil duval
Yeah, the hood.
That's what the hood is now.
And people mad at us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That's what the hood is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Life.
joe rogan
I forget the quote.
Somebody made this quote.
Maybe it was George Orwell or someone famous.
That if you get a man sufficiently mad, you can see the caveman in the red gleam of his eye.
Something along those lines.
The idea of you push a person far enough.
That's why people are always fascinated by survival stories.
lil duval
Like that part where he beat him so much to where he ended up just being like a pet.
joe rogan
Yes.
lil duval
You know, it's the same thing.
You can do that.
That's with anybody.
You just mold them how you want them.
After a while, you mold them to what you want them to be.
joe rogan
Hmm.
That's why that movie or that show was so interesting.
lil duval
That's what we do in stand-up.
That's what we do in everything.
Entertainment.
We mold how we want it to be.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
How we see the world.
What we want the world to be.
joe rogan
Do you ever think of stand-up as mass hypnosis?
lil duval
I don't know what that means.
joe rogan
You know what hypnosis is?
Mass.
Mass.
lil duval
Oh, oh, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
You have to put people under hypnosis when you do it.
That's why, in most comedy clubs, the bar is outside of it, because it takes away the attention and all that.
joe rogan
Right.
lil duval
Yeah.
I thought you said massasosis.
I had never heard that one.
joe rogan
It feels like hypnosis when you're in the groove.
lil duval
It is like that because, and that's why you hate when somebody talks or, because it throws you out of the hypnosis.
joe rogan
And it throws the people near them out too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the real problem.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
It fucks it up for the people near.
You see people, you see them turn their head away.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy won't shut the fuck up.
You see that.
lil duval
It's an art and it takes time, but it's hard now because people don't care about art no more.
joe rogan
Some people do.
Like that dude who paid $120,000 for a banana taped to the wall.
lil duval
That was promo.
That was promo.
joe rogan
It was, right?
That's why we're talking about it.
lil duval
I wouldn't talk about it.
That's why I never post about it.
See, I know what I'm doing.
I don't talk about shit that I don't want to promote.
joe rogan
Did you see the other dude ate it?
Some other guy pulled it off the wall and ate it.
lil duval
You're going to keep talking about it, huh?
Nah.
joe rogan
It is promo.
You're right.
It's stupid.
lil duval
But it's funny that it's indulged.
unidentified
It's stupid to me.
lil duval
Because now that promotes another person to do it.
joe rogan
Yes.
lil duval
You see, and that hits the ecosystem.
That's why I try to watch what I push, because I know how stupid people are.
They're like, oh, that's an idea.
Let me put a naked woman there on tape on the wall and eat her.
Like, do stupid shit.
joe rogan
You make it sense.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
That actually makes a lot of sense.
jamie vernon
It was called Comedian.
unidentified
Okay.
lil duval
What was called Comedian?
joe rogan
The art piece.
He's going to keep talking about it.
jamie vernon
My bad.
joe rogan
He's going to talk about it more.
Look at him.
lil duval
Might as well have fun.
jamie vernon
Start Googling that.
joe rogan
You ever go to the LA County Museum of Art?
Good.
Don't go there.
If you hate that banana, you'll hate that place.
This fucking L.A. County Museum of Art is one of the weird...
Some of it is art.
Some of it's interesting shit.
And then some of it is like, there's one of them that was a plexiglass box that was on the ground.
And I literally...
I thought it was a seat.
I go, what is it?
Somebody sit on, they got some crafty ways.
No, no, that's the art piece.
So I go, well, what is that supposed to be?
And it's like, well, the artist wants you to interpret whatever's in that box as the art.
Whatever it is, it's up to you.
Like, what?
unidentified
What?
lil duval
I interpret this mine and I would have walked off with it.
That's how you do it.
joe rogan
I think it's bolted down.
I don't think you had the first idea of that.
lil duval
It's just so stupid.
You got some dope shit, man.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Thank you.
lil duval
Is this the clock from Back to the Future?
joe rogan
No, there's a guy named TGT Studios and he makes these dope clocks.
You want one?
I'll get you one.
lil duval
Man, I want everything you got in this motherfucker.
The flamethrower.
joe rogan
The flamethrower's out of sale.
They sold out of the flamethrowers.
lil duval
That's dope, though.
joe rogan
We ran out of gas on it, too.
lil duval
You got a dope life, man.
I envy people that just can do what the fuck they want, how they want.
I envy that.
joe rogan
Thank you.
lil duval
Because I have to think about what I do because I have to think about the people under me.
Which I don't, but I do.
I just feel obligated to.
joe rogan
But how does that stop you from buying a clock?
lil duval
I'm talking about being able to do what the fuck you want.
That's what I feel when I'm in here.
Just like, man, you can tell he really do what the fuck he want.
I do what the fuck I want.
Don't get it twisted.
But I still, this shit's just dope.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm very lucky.
lil duval
Yeah, we all are.
We blessed.
joe rogan
For sure.
If you're listening to this, you're blessed.
If you're alive today, you're blessed.
lil duval
If you breathe in, you're achieving.
joe rogan
Ooh, I like it.
lil duval
Come on.
joe rogan
That's some Joel Osteen shit.
lil duval
That's me.
unidentified
Smile, bitch Smile, bitch Oh, That's a great fucking song.
lil duval
You got a lot to be smiling for.
That song is the universe song.
That was from the universe.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That was all the universe.
That was put out there for the universe.
I'd love to see what it did.
That was the dopest shit.
joe rogan
It's a great message.
It's a fun message.
lil duval
It's great to see what it did.
Just the people.
Just how it brings people together.
How it just...
When people tell me how it got them through what they're doing.
Just seeing older people.
Seeing people from babies to 90 years old.
Just enjoying it.
That's all you want.
Even as a comedian, as an entertainer, see people just enjoying it.
And enjoying it for the right way and what you put it out there for.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You know, you're like, damn, this shit working.
joe rogan
That's the best part of what we do.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
lil duval
The best part.
The best part is, well, for me is like, I really do what I do for other people because I done got everything I wanted.
You know, it's like now, all my agenda is for the betterment of other people as a whole.
That's what I want to say.
joe rogan
That's your ultimate goal.
lil duval
My ultimate goal, yep.
My ultimate goal is to have a little bit of little Duvall in everybody.
Because I feel like if everybody act like me, the world would be perfect.
Shit.
joe rogan
It would be a more fun place.
lil duval
For sure.
joe rogan
You're making some good points.
I'm thinking about Hong Kong.
What the fuck can I do to help Hong Kong?
lil duval
Nothing.
Shit.
joe rogan
I'm thinking about it.
lil duval
You can't do nothing at this point.
You can do something like if you implement...
The best thing we can do in life is just be the change you want to see.
Just be that.
Everything we are is what we saw.
So you have to give more examples of that move in the movement that you want others to move.
And it trickles down over time.
The butterfly effect.
Everything is the butterfly effect.
joe rogan
That's real.
lil duval
So if you're trying to change, that's how you change it.
But in the meantime, that shit gonna happen.
I don't know who right or who wrong.
Depends on which side you're on.
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
That's the second one.
Don't know who's white or who's wrong.
Depends on what side you're on.
Lil Duvall.
unidentified
Bars.
joe rogan
You can see that in all black screen, white letters.
That fades black in the beginning of a film.
lil duval
You ain't hit the J no more, man.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Give me that lighter.
unidentified
I was just starting to think that.
joe rogan
Starting to sober up here.
lil duval
I'm high as a bitch.
joe rogan
Kevin Smithweed is legit a bit.
Did he say that some crazy amount of THC? It's like 40-something percent THC. I need some more of that.
Kevin's another one.
He didn't get high until a few years back.
I don't know what happened.
All of a sudden, he went from never getting high to getting high all day, every day.
lil duval
That's what I am.
I love to get high.
It's my past time.
Like, I need it at this point just to pass through life.
It's like, alright.
I only do it when I ain't got nothing to do.
Which is most time.
Most people ain't got shit to do.
We just do.
joe rogan
Do you get high before you do shows?
lil duval
Yeah.
Unless it's like, nah.
It was this one time I just like, that shit, whatever it was, I was like, nah, I can't keep doing this.
I gotta wait till after.
When I'm by myself and just have this.
But...
joe rogan
Sometimes, too, when you're traveling, you're already a little fucked up in the head.
Your head's always kind of a little foggy.
Plane rides, getting up early, not enough sleep, that kind of shit.
lil duval
Nah, that's why I got a plane now.
So that made it a lot easier.
joe rogan
Do you fly yourself?
You actually fly, don't you?
lil duval
I try to fly.
I'm learning.
That's why I just bought a plane and learned as I go.
joe rogan
What kind of plane did you get?
lil duval
I got a Baron 50 and a Baron 55 and a Cessna 421. And you're learning how to fly them.
Yeah.
I know how to take off land and do all that, but as far as really paying attention, that's where it's hard for me.
I'm still trying to learn to pay attention and learn what's what and knowing when shit out.
joe rogan
Instrumentation and all that shit.
lil duval
Yeah, learning when shit broke.
Because the motherfuckers do break you and I wouldn't have known if my pilot wasn't there.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
lil duval
Yeah, because I don't know.
I'm still learning.
joe rogan
What broke?
unidentified
What broke?
lil duval
A lot of things.
Them shits break like a motherfucker.
Every time I land, there's something on that motherfucker.
unidentified
Really?
lil duval
Yeah, but I'm blessed the way I can afford to do it, and it pays for itself kind of in what we do.
So...
I like it, though.
And I like the fact that I like getting more people like me into it, you know what I mean?
Because I think a lot of black people need to get into it more so because this shit been going on for a long time.
And for it to be going on so long and we're not into it as much, we should.
I think that's a problem.
joe rogan
But aviation's freedom.
lil duval
Man, it's the most freedom ever, man.
joe rogan
I mean, you got a three-dimensional road in the sky.
You go wherever the fuck you want.
lil duval
But you don't know that, though, until you do it.
joe rogan
So this is you right here?
lil duval
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And this is...
lil duval
That's my bear.
joe rogan
So is this propeller-driven?
lil duval
Is it a jet?
No, this is an engine.
Just a regular engine.
joe rogan
But is it driven by a propeller?
lil duval
Yeah, yeah, two Continentals.
I think they've got Continental engines in them.
joe rogan
So those are supposedly the best if something goes wrong, because you can still kind of land them.
lil duval
Yeah, they say it's always best to have two engines, because my first plane I bought had one.
It was a Piper.
And that would be cool, too, because there's a lot of land to land on Earth.
But I used to go to the Bahamas.
And he was like, you don't want to be over that water with just one engine.
So I was like, all right, you're right.
So I got the planes with two engines on them.
So if one go out, that bitch will still fly.
I got video of that on there, too.
Go to my Rich Broke page, Rich Broke Air.
I got pictures of that showing with the plane flying with one engine plane.
joe rogan
How long have you been doing this for?
lil duval
About a year.
I had this plane for about a year now.
About a year and a half, maybe.
joe rogan
So right when you started flying, you just went ahead and bought a plane?
lil duval
Yeah.
Right when I bought a plane, that's when I... Because that was my way of getting into it.
Because I didn't know how to get into it.
I was like, all right, I'm buying.
I've bumped my way into it.
And that's what I did.
I found somebody.
How did I find that guy?
In the Bahamas.
I think I rented his house out or something.
He said, I'm a pilot.
I said, for real?
I'm trying to buy a plane.
And that's the conversation.
Bumped into that.
Is that it right there?
With the...
joe rogan
Fly Rich Broke Air.
lil duval
No, that ain't it.
That's my old.
Go to one of the last two posts on there.
You can see where the propeller...
joe rogan
And this old one is the one that had one propeller.
lil duval
This is the one that had one propeller.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want that, right?
lil duval
You went to Rich Broke Air?
Oh yeah, go to Instagram, my fault.
I can send it to you.
joe rogan
It is kind of amazing how few people learn how to fly.
lil duval
Yeah, they'll go right there, I think.
That's it with one of the engines out.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
So why did it go out?
Did you shut it out on purpose?
lil duval
Yeah, just showing that it can still...
joe rogan
Dude, fuck that.
What if it won't start back up again?
What if the other one starts to spark?
lil duval
You can still land.
Now, the only problem now is...
You got to watch.
If that bitch cut off while you're taking off, you're going to crash.
So you want to watch your weight and all that shit there and make sure the engine's running.
joe rogan
Have you had any close encounters?
lil duval
Nah.
joe rogan
No close calls?
I should say close calls.
Close encounters, that's like aliens.
lil duval
The only thing I might have had was...
Nah, I ain't never had nothing really happen.
joe rogan
So everything's smooth.
No problems.
Easy landings.
lil duval
My first plane, as soon as I bought it, as soon as it landed, that bitch cut off.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
As soon as it landed, my first plane.
But it was an old, old motherfucker.
joe rogan
You don't want an old fucking plane.
lil duval
Honestly, you do.
I'd rather an old one than these new, because the new ones are still trial and error, and they're crashing and all that shit there.
joe rogan
Oh, like the 737?
lil duval
Yeah, it's like those are still using new technology.
You want some shit that's been there for like 30 years.
Most of these planes you see now, they're old.
They're like 80s and 90s.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
Yeah, most of them Gulf Streams, unless you get the new ones.
But the ones the rappers renting...
Some old 90s Gulfstream.
But they're still nice and they're still good if you keep them up.
And then most of them ain't keeping them up.
I keep my plane up better than most of these commercial planes.
I flew here on the commercial.
That motherfucker sounded like the transmission was slipping.
joe rogan
I do not want to hear irregular noises on a plane.
lil duval
Let me see the line.
joe rogan
Burr flies helicopters.
I went out with him.
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
Bill Burr.
lil duval
Oh, for real?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He took me all around Malibu right after the fires.
You get to see everything that was just devastated.
lil duval
That's dope.
joe rogan
That's crazy to see.
That was one thing about here that humbled people up, let them know that nature's real is the forest fires.
The wildfires were out of control here last year.
lil duval
I think we need to be humble as a country as a whole, honestly.
I don't want to prey on it for us, but we need something to humble us towards more so life than money.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
And I think a natural disaster will do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was.
lil duval
You won't have no choice.
joe rogan
Do you remember post 9-11?
Do you remember what happened?
The way the country changed after 9-11?
lil duval
I was supposed to be doing Carolines that day.
Wow.
I was supposed to be opening up an earthquake.
I was in St. Louis and I got stuck in St. Louis.
joe rogan
Wow.
lil duval
And we had to drive a Greyhound back.
joe rogan
Wow.
lil duval
That was the longest ride ever.
joe rogan
But that changed the way everybody was for a little bit.
lil duval
Yeah, it made you realize nothing else matters.
That's when you realize what really matters.
joe rogan
Oddly enough, that's when people are happy.
People are happier when they've survived something rough.
lil duval
That's what island-like living does for you.
It lets you understand what matters and what don't matter.
And that's what America needs.
A little humbling.
joe rogan
Just humans need it in general.
And when we get out of control, we're like spoiled brats.
lil duval
A lot of countries got it.
Like I say, islands get it.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, you're always going to have corruption and stuff like that there.
But for the most part, they get it more than we do.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're in tune.
lil duval
Yeah, you're in tune.
Nothing comes before nature.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Island people, Hawaiians, Hawaiians are like that.
Very, I mean, as a culture, very in tune.
lil duval
We don't got too detached from nature in there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Where we don't need it.
We think we don't need it.
Right.
You know, so that's where we got fucked up at.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
We need to humble back for a second.
joe rogan
No, I think you're right.
I think you're right.
I just don't want it to have to happen.
lil duval
Me neither.
I'm not on my watch.
I don't feel like going through it.
I honestly don't.
I'm really on that type of time.
I'm like, shit, I know it's going to happen.
That's why I try to practice now and prepare myself.
joe rogan
What do you do?
lil duval
Live on the island and chill.
So I can be prepared.
I don't want to be culture shocked.
I don't want to be culture shocked when the shit, like the lights go out.
And you be like, oh shit.
You know, the first five minutes you're cool.
Then like 20 minutes later, you're like, alright.
Alright, get me up out of this motherfucker.
Turn the lights back on.
Put the generator on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Like even on the island, the shit, last time I was there, all electricity, they cut that shit off for like three, four hours just cause.
And we have no reason behind it.
They just cut it off.
They say they fixing shit, but they don't be fixing shit.
unidentified
Well, weren't there...
joe rogan
There was a big lawsuit about brownouts in California.
They were doing it on purpose.
They were just shutting down giant...
Wasn't it part of like a negotiation or something?
I'm trying to figure out what it was, but it was criminal.
No, it was a bunch of years ago.
lil duval
Well, see, I just use it as a way of, all right, this guy we're showing me, all right, let's see what you can do without this.
You know, it's kind of my way, all right, I can't use the phone.
joe rogan
It's stunning how quickly you feel weird.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
All the powers out.
Everybody has no power.
No one has any power.
Whoa.
lil duval
Just practice it.
But you practice it in that goddamn tank.
What's that thing you think tank?
joe rogan
Sensory deprivation tank.
lil duval
Yeah.
That's just meditation.
You get away from everything.
joe rogan
That's why people like camping.
Yeah.
Because camping is like, hey, this is what it's like.
This is what it's like if you live outside in your little cloth house.
lil duval
Man, if you go outside and leave your phone for about 30 minutes or an hour, the grass start looking greener.
It's like you start really seeing shit, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
And maybe it'd be the shrooms or something, but everything's enhanced when you put that down for a little bit.
joe rogan
It just takes too much of your attention.
lil duval
Yeah.
It takes all our attention.
Mine, too.
Yeah.
I try to put more into it than I give...
Then it feeds me.
joe rogan
It's hard.
Sometimes you're just bored.
You just want to find out what's going on in the world.
lil duval
But you got to put your nature back.
I try to instill humanity back into it.
Because you can use it for good to put it back out.
Shit, we're doing it now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, we're doing it now.
It's just...
You could listen to this while you're in nature.
Someone might be on a run right now.
In nature.
Listen to this high as fuck.
lil duval
What's up, boy?
It's time to ride.
joe rogan
But that's an amazing transition between no weed and four years later, full blown, all in.
I went the same way in the beginning, but for me it's been more.
It's like 20 years now.
lil duval
20?
joe rogan
But it's the same thing.
I just thought it was for losers.
And then as soon as I did it, I was like, oh, I can't believe I was missing out on this.
lil duval
That's how I felt about Shroom.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
Shrooms is really drugs.
Everything else is synthetic of that.
That's when you realize, oh, this is what they're trying to imitate.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what they're trying to get.
lil duval
This is what they're trying to get.
joe rogan
They're trying to get to this crazy place where you're interacting.
lil duval
But I don't like to promote it, though, because it ain't for everybody.
Right.
joe rogan
No.
lil duval
Like, everybody shouldn't do it.
joe rogan
I used to think everybody should.
lil duval
But I think your audience is okay.
Some of them.
joe rogan
There's five guys out there that shouldn't do it.
lil duval
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
I used to think everybody should do it, too.
But then, people with schizophrenia can become a real issue.
lil duval
Yeah, if you're not at peace, then you gotta really understand when you see things, because sometimes you don't come back.
You know what I'm saying?
Some people don't come back.
joe rogan
You gotta be able to...
Yeah, I'm fine.
lil duval
You hiding the bitch, ain't you?
joe rogan
Just give me the box.
Thank you.
It's not that bad.
Just a little splash on me.
But yeah, it's...
Some people don't come back and, you know, famously...
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Acid.
Acid does a lot of people...
lil duval
That's why I don't fuck with acid.
I mean, I... I don't fuck with nothing that people die from.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You know, I don't fuck with nothing that I can't see came from nature.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That's only weed and shrooms.
That's as much as that.
joe rogan
That's a good call for everybody just as a general rule.
Don't fuck with anything that doesn't just come out of the ground that's natural.
Especially when something like weed or mushrooms that has thousands of years of use.
lil duval
And shrooms and...
You're right.
Weed, you realize there's something for everything.
Any other drug you get, they got a strain or something that'll give you that same stimulant.
Same thing with shrooms.
It's just like...
Man, that's the only time I feel like I eat bad.
joe rogan
When you're on shrooms?
lil duval
That's how I know that shit really.
That shit is just like, that shit is amazing.
It's even hard to explain because this is like, this shit is fucking amazing.
joe rogan
It's pretty amazing.
What's amazing is that it's been around for so long and it's still illegal.
So guys like you have these crazy experiences.
lil duval
It's legal in Colorado now, right?
joe rogan
I think Colorado did something to decriminalize it, but Oakland famously recently decriminalized everything.
Ayahuasca, mushrooms, everything.
lil duval
What is ayahuasca?
joe rogan
Ayahuasca is the edible form of DMT. It's a drink that they take.
Amazon indigenous people have invented it.
lil duval
I think somebody just told me about that.
joe rogan
It's not similar to mushrooms in that it's obviously a different thing, but it can be insanely potent from what they say.
I've done the synthetic form of it, which is DMT. I haven't done the ayahuasca, which is the edible form of it.
The edible form of it is supposed to be more mild but lasts longer.
I just haven't had a chance.
lil duval
When you do it, let me know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll let you know.
lil duval
Let me know what it is.
joe rogan
Everybody loves it.
lil duval
Has anybody ever died from it?
joe rogan
No.
lil duval
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Maybe, like, one person.
Ever.
I mean, there's someone who died recently from it.
lil duval
I'm still on certain level.
I'm still probably at level two or three with shrooms.
Like, I ain't went all the way yet.
joe rogan
Which level two or three?
How many grams are you taking?
lil duval
The most I've taken, and this was by mistake, like four grams because I missed and put the scale on.
joe rogan
That's a good solid dose.
lil duval
And yeah, that was too much for me.
That shit had me so emotional.
Like I've never been there.
I've never laughed.
And I'm a comedian.
I've never laughed so hard.
It was that day.
I was laughing.
I was crying.
I was just...
And it wouldn't stop.
It just wouldn't stop.
It was just laughing, farting, peeing.
I just couldn't control no type of...
It was like all my shit was just like...
And it felt amazing.
It was just like amazing.
But after that, I couldn't do it.
I was like, I can't.
Because I couldn't shake it.
It just wouldn't go away.
It lasts about seven, eight hours.
Wow.
And that's another thing about swimming.
They do last a long time.
joe rogan
Long time.
Ayahuasca is shorter than that, apparently.
lil duval
I like it for a long time.
I like it, but I only do it like once a month because I can't go through that emotional rollercoaster so much.
It's fun, but it's like a ride.
It's like, all right, I don't want to do it no more.
But I can do it like once a month, maybe two grams.
I fucked on it one time, but I ain't do that much.
I can fuck on it when it's just a little bit, but when it's a lot, I can't.
I ain't even thinking about fucking...
I feel like I'm fucking...
It feel like fucking.
That's what it feel like.
I'm just thinking about it now.
I'm going through my mind.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
No, no worries.
You know, there's a lot of people that think that's the origins of religion.
lil duval
It is.
I think...
I think the origins are that and Zodiac.
I think Zodiacs is really real religions.
I think we really are our signs.
In some kind of way, the stars and all this shit connect.
joe rogan
Like real astrology.
lil duval
Yeah.
I think it all connects.
joe rogan
I wish I knew enough about real astrology to make fun of it.
But every time I start talking shit about astrology, I'm like, I don't really know that much about it.
lil duval
I don't know shit about it neither.
I'm learning as I go.
I'm looking and I'm paying attention.
I'm just going by observation.
joe rogan
Right.
See, scientists will tell you it's nonsense.
But are they sure...
Like, there's so many weird factors that they're taking into account.
The moon is in this, and the Mars is in retrograde, and Venus is in that.
lil duval
Oh, that retrograde shit.
joe rogan
All that shit they're taking into account.
Is that even real, what they're saying?
lil duval
I kind of...
Like I was saying earlier, I believe we are more of our nature than we are what we think we are.
So, I think if we're connected all together...
I'm trying to think how to articulate it, because...
I've been working on this.
That's why I went back and watched Illicella again, because it's kind of like that.
But it's like...
Like, say for instance, a dog, before shit, it turns around like that just natural.
joe rogan
Right.
lil duval
Like, we do certain things natural that we don't even know we do.
But if you understand the connections of that, you can kind of use it to your favor and change everything.
unidentified
Right.
lil duval
To recognize your own patterns.
I ain't figured out how to use it as my superpower yet.
I'm trying to figure out how to use it.
You know how people could take numbers and they say numbers do shit in the world or certain things.
I think there is that in nature.
You just got to figure out which time.
It's kind of like...
Even the social media, I kind of do it, just let nature take its course and do certain things in life.
I'm not even in social media, just in life.
I kind of let nature take its course.
I plant the seed and let it grow, you know, and it kind of does what it do.
So in the same sense in life, I don't know, I got to figure it out a little more.
I got to do more research with my words.
I know what you're saying.
I think I got it.
I think women are more powerful with it than we are.
joe rogan
They have more intuition towards it?
lil duval
Yeah, they just don't know it.
Like, if they knew how to control that shit, they'd be like Gene on X-Men.
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
You ever heard of the I Ching?
You know what the I Ching is?
lil duval
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
I Ching is an ancient Chinese method of divination.
Yeah.
And I think you would ask it questions and throw these stones.
I think they're hexagons.
I think that's what they are.
And they have different marks on them and they read these marks and it's supposed to predict things.
It's been around for thousands of years and it's really complicated.
It's a bunch of different...
Do you have what it is?
jamie vernon
It's just the charts.
This is very visual, so for those that are listening, it's going to be tough.
joe rogan
Pull up one of those charts.
jamie vernon
When you throw the three coins, you get a number.
That number then correlates to this chart, and then...
You get this symbol, and I'm going to imagine then you take that symbol, and then it equals one of these things.
Wind, heaven, lake, fire, thunder, earth, mountain, water.
And then I don't know how.
There's a lot.
These charts are very big.
lil duval
Like, say, for instance, if I knew the charts, then I could know when to be at a certain place at a certain time to get a certain type of energy that I want.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Something like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's...
I can't explain it, but I'm still trying to learn.
joe rogan
Well, there was a guy named Terence McKenna, and he was this very famous psychedelic philosopher dude, and he studied the I Ching for a long time.
And he had some really wacky ideas, but one of them was that he thought the I Ching was a map of time.
And that that's what it was created for.
And that we're just...
We don't really totally understand it yet.
And that what this method of divination...
The reason why it's so effective is somehow or another through these things and viewing these things, you're actually having some sort of an impact.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sounds like total nonsense, like hippie bullshit.
lil duval
No, I don't because...
joe rogan
People with crystals.
lil duval
Shit, I just lost my train of thought.
It's like when you...
You know how 20 years ago, the stuff that you know now, it was still the same shit, but you didn't have a clue about it?
joe rogan
Right.
lil duval
I'm trying to think how to explain it in layman's terms.
Back in the day, we used to wear baggy clothes.
You know, hip-hop.
We'd baggy than the motherfucker.
Now that I look back, I'm like, this shit looks stupid than the motherfucker.
But I was blind back then.
I had on what I had on, but I was blind than the motherfucker.
joe rogan
It happens with people.
How about bell bottoms?
lil duval
But I'm saying, yeah, even in bell bottoms, now you look back and you're like, what the fuck did I have on?
But in your mind, so what I'm saying is, in our minds, we really are really blind.
There might be something right here.
We're just not paying attention to it.
Because...
Our minds ain't got there yet.
joe rogan
Right.
lil duval
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I do get what I'm saying.
lil duval
So, and I said it to say, because when you said we just ain't figured out the methods that you say that we're, we ain't figured it out yet.
It's there right in front of us.
We just gotta, we gotta stop overthinking.
It's really simple.
Everything is simple.
We just overthink it.
Think about the car.
The car had all them different components to it.
Now it's just a laptop now.
Simple.
We could have skipped all that if we would have just had our minds right where it's at now.
joe rogan
Go from the Model T to the Tesla.
lil duval
Yeah, and go to just beam me up.
joe rogan
Right, beam me up.
lil duval
You know, the shit sounds so far-fetched, but now it's like that shit probably could happen.
joe rogan
I think it's going to happen, but I think it might not be really happening when it happens.
I think we might get locked into some sort of digital realm.
That's what I think.
lil duval
I think we are in a digital realm.
That's where all this shit coming in.
We've all become in digital so we can go somewhere else.
joe rogan
It's closing in on us.
Like you said, your brain is now the cloud.
lil duval
We're just a piece of nature.
We're just an evolution of the next thing.
Humans.
We're not even supposed to be humans.
Alright, I'm going too far.
We're going way too far.
joe rogan
There was a guy named Marshall McLuhan and he said, human beings are the sex organs of the machine world.
lil duval
That's it.
joe rogan
That's it!
lil duval
He just worried that shit.
It's like we really think we're important, but we're really just a step in between another step.
joe rogan
What does Elon Musk call us?
He calls us the organic bootloader for artificial intelligence.
What he thinks is that we are here to sort of give birth to artificial intelligence, and it's going to take over from there, and it'll be the new life form.
I wonder if that's on the way and the gods are looking down on us like, these dummies are worried about global warming.
They've got about 10 more years of people left.
lil duval
Somebody from another planet watching us as a show is like, look at them.
Look at them.
They over there doing this shit again.
joe rogan
Dude, I had that guy in here yesterday.
lil duval
Oh, they looking at this world like, oh, they finally figured out how to get to the Mars.
Think about that.
joe rogan
I got this book from this dude.
The author, S.C. Gwynn, was in here yesterday.
It's Empire of a Summer Moon.
And it's all about the Comanches and the United States fight against the Comanche and how long it went down.
And then at the end of it, by the end, they had defeated the Plains tribes.
You just get this horrible feeling of how all these people got wiped out.
Their way of life they had for, who knows, a thousand, two thousand years is now gone completely.
Like, That could be us.
And that could be us by our own doing.
lil duval
I mean, that's happened in Egypt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That happened in Egypt.
All that shit.
Done.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
So, I mean, this happened in, what's the story in the Bible?
I forgot the story.
joe rogan
Which one?
lil duval
The one where they, Sodom and Gomorrah, when they cleared the whole place, because they saw there was like Babylon, it was fucked up.
I forgot.
joe rogan
I know what you're talking about.
Sodom and Gomorrah, right, right, right.
lil duval
It was so fucked up over there that God just washed the whole place up.
joe rogan
Yeah, what was the place?
Shit.
What happened with Sodom?
lil duval
Oh, I'm a Christian.
jamie vernon
Those are two cities.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what it is?
jamie vernon
And they're walking away and he said, don't look back and wanted somebody to look back and he bombed the place and it's over.
lil duval
That's the story.
That's what the story says.
I'm not saying it's facts.
I mean, but it's something probably like that happened.
joe rogan
And that's because they were all naughty.
That's what's hilarious.
jamie vernon
Very naughty.
joe rogan
That's what's hilarious.
Not a buttfucker and shit.
That's just hilarious.
What kind of a weird god...
lil duval
I think it's more just as a whole just how everything evolves into, you know, you put something there and see where it rolls.
This is what our shit rolled to.
Like, what the fuck?
That's what came out of that shit?
That's why I say you really can't predict because...
That shit can roll into anything.
joe rogan
Right now it certainly can.
lil duval
You know what I'm saying?
Especially at this moment, like at the shift we are as far as in the big picture, we had a shuffle, like at the beginning of the century of the 1900s.
We had that shuffle now.
joe rogan
I think we're one or two big inventions away from being unrecognizable.
One or two big ones.
One or two big ones in maybe 10, 20 years, and things could be unrecognizable.
lil duval
To the robots too?
joe rogan
I think all we have to do is get to a point where there really is an artificial intelligence and it can make choices and it can think for itself.
I don't know how long that takes.
Maybe it takes 30 years.
lil duval
I think that's here now.
joe rogan
I don't know if it is.
But autonomous artificial intelligence that can move around.
Like something that's built like a person or a dog and can move around and run the world.
lil duval
I went to this expo in Japan and I saw something damn near like it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're close.
They're getting close.
I don't think they're there though.
I think for real artificial intelligence, I think they need more time.
But all that shit is happening so quick.
Like they're developing quantum computers.
Google now has quantum computers.
lil duval
That's just like, man, this shit been going on.
Like, I didn't realize until I started flying planes.
Like, all that navigation shit was there 50 years ago.
joe rogan
What, navigation satellites?
lil duval
Yeah, the satellites, all the stuff we're getting on GPS now.
Really?
Like, GPS that's on our phone.
joe rogan
When was that invented?
lil duval
Shit, I don't know.
When was it?
unidentified
Google it.
joe rogan
Dude, I had GPS on my phone in the 90s.
lil duval
On your phone, but I'm saying...
Not on my phone.
joe rogan
I meant on my car.
lil duval
Even before your car.
Really?
That's what I'm saying.
Even before your car, they was in planes.
joe rogan
73?
lil duval
Yes.
joe rogan
Started by the U.S. Department of Defense in 1973, the first prototype spacecraft launched in 1978. The full constellation of 24 satellites operational in 93. You got to think, they had FaceTime on the moon.
lil duval
Like, it had to be.
So that means it's been going on.
So this technology has been going on.
So just imagine what they got now.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's probably some shit we don't know about.
lil duval
Yeah!
They got people morphing into animals around this bitch.
joe rogan
You think so?
lil duval
You never know.
joe rogan
You never know.
lil duval
Stay woke.
I'm telling you, you never know.
You never know.
joe rogan
You never know.
lil duval
Man, the world is amazing, man.
This shit is dope.
joe rogan
Did you hear the shit that they announced that China had created human-pig hybrids or monkey-pig?
Monkey-pig hybrids?
lil duval
They make hybrids out of anything now, shit.
You can hybrid anything, man.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Who knows what they're going to do, man?
lil duval
Who knows?
People just doing anything.
Putting their shit in the pot.
They're doing that with humans now.
I want green eyes.
I want tall.
joe rogan
One day, they're going to have an artificial body.
There's going to be a company that's going to have an artificial body that works perfectly.
And they can guarantee that you can take your brain out of that artificial body and put it in this new perfect body.
Take it out of yours.
lil duval
That's like the movie Surrogate.
joe rogan
And they guarantee you you'll live longer.
You get an extra 150 years with this artificial body.
unidentified
Would you do it?
joe rogan
I'm a moron.
I would definitely do it.
lil duval
Would you want to live forever?
joe rogan
No, not forever.
But I would never know when to end.
That's the thing.
There's like a parable about that, about some guy who lives the hundreds of years, but he has to kill his kids in order to do it.
lil duval
I think True Blood was kind of like that too, that movie.
When the motherfucker was the vampires, he got tired of living.
He's like, alright, this shit boring.
Could you imagine seeing people complain about the same things for hundreds and hundreds of years?
joe rogan
Plus you gotta kill people every day.
lil duval
Here they go again.
Here they go again fighting for their rights.
Here they go again tired of this shit.
Here they go again.
Because you go through the same shit every 20 years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You probably get tired of killing them, too.
lil duval
People that's 90 years old are tired of hearing this shit.
People 80 years old, you just laugh at the young people going through their shit.
Like, here they go.
joe rogan
Did you ever see Interview with a Vampire?
lil duval
I don't remember it.
joe rogan
Is that Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt movie?
lil duval
Yeah, but I don't remember it.
Should I watch it again?
joe rogan
It's a great fucking movie.
lil duval
I gotta watch it again, yeah.
joe rogan
But the whole idea is that part of it is that this...
These vampires have been around for hundreds of years and they're starting to get sick of it.
They're kind of freaked out.
lil duval
Yeah, that's how True Blood was.
They're tired of that shit.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
lil duval
My grandma's mad.
She alive.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
Yeah.
My grandma from Bahamas, she'd be depressing.
Because you got to think about it.
When you're that old, you're the only one around.
You ain't got nobody to talk to.
Nobody give a fuck.
Your kids don't want to come over there to take pics, photo ops.
Nobody give a damn about them.
And it's a true story.
She passed out in the garage and stayed there because she thought she was dead.
And then she realized she wasn't, got up and walked away right back in the house.
Wow.
You don't want to be here.
That's why you want something.
Even if you don't believe in God, you would want something after this.
You'd be like, it's got to be something after this shit.
I want it to be.
You would want to think something after this because this is boring at the end.
This don't end good.
joe rogan
It doesn't end good.
Some people think that for sure nothing happens.
And that to me is just as dumb as thinking for sure something happens.
Who knows?
lil duval
Either way, I'd rather be right than wrong.
I'd rather believe.
And you're like, nah, you ain't believe.
I told you I believe when you see a dead person it seems like something's gone I swear to God, when one of my best friends, a comedian that passed, died, that's when I was like, oh no, this has got to be a god or something, because I saw it.
joe rogan
You feel they're gone.
lil duval
When I was in the room with him, right on his deathbed, I saw it.
You could just see, and you could see that they see it, because he really, at the time, he asked me to play Smile Bitch for him, and I played it for him, and after that, he tried to pull the thing out of his mouth.
unidentified
Wow.
lil duval
Right after that.
And the funny thing about it, I didn't think it was like, I didn't see it as no suicide thing.
It was just like, you could see that he saw, alright, next level.
I mean, next step.
You get what I'm saying?
So, I didn't let him do it because I didn't want to see it.
I said, no, no.
Pulled him down and told his sister to come in.
But, it's just, you really see it then when you're in there and you see life and see where it ends and It's not a bad thing.
You just see, like, this is what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is what it is.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
It comes and goes.
lil duval
Comes and goes.
I mean, it's something next, I hope.
joe rogan
You know what someone said once in one of the...
One of the Gracie fathers talked about this too.
Said he believed and he lived his life, Elio Gracie, lived his life like you have to get everything perfect.
You have to do everything the right way.
Or you come back and you do it all over again.
lil duval
Yeah, that's how karma.
That's how people in Indonesia think.
And there's no crime over there.
None.
Where I was at in Bali.
joe rogan
Well, it's a great way to think.
lil duval
It's a perfect way to think.
joe rogan
And if it's right, I mean, maybe that's what you are.
lil duval
Even if it ain't right, you should think that way.
Because if you thought that way, if you thought you'd come back looking like an ant, you ain't finna be doing too much crazy shit.
You're gonna do right.
You're gonna do right by people in the best way you can.
joe rogan
Well, that always makes me think, like, someone like you, like, how many times have you done this ride?
You know what I mean?
Like, maybe some people just, maybe the dumbest people amongst us are just, they're just new on the ride.
lil duval
That's what, you know what?
joe rogan
They've only done it three or four times.
lil duval
That's the best way to articulate it, because it's like, to me, my whole life, I feel like, this shit is so simple, but to everybody else, it's so complicated.
joe rogan
Maybe you've been on the ride a lot.
Maybe you've been on this ride like a thousand times.
lil duval
That's crazy.
joe rogan
If it's real...
lil duval
How many times do you think you've been on this bitch?
joe rogan
I don't even want to think.
But life...
None of it makes any sense.
It doesn't make any sense that you and I are making noises with our mouth, and we both know what we're saying.
And we're laughing.
We just met, having a great time, smoking weed together, talking shit.
That doesn't make sense either.
Life is bizarre.
So if life this way, this way that we live, which is really interesting, if this goes on forever, like I enjoy life, and I know you do, right?
Enjoy it.
It's great.
But if you told me it was going to go on forever, I'd go, fuck, like this just goes on forever and ever.
That's going to give me anxiety.
lil duval
So just don't say nothing and just let the spirit.
joe rogan
But if it happens again and again and again and again and again and again throughout eternity, if that's what life is, if you just live this life over and over again, why would that be scary?
But it would.
It'd be scary because maybe I enjoy this life, but I want to think that there's something better.
But if it's just this life, over and over and over again until I get it right, why is that scarier than doing it once?
Because it's not scary to do it once.
Like once, like right now, I'm having a great time.
You're having a great time.
Jamie's having a great time.
We're having fun, right?
Why wouldn't I want to keep doing this?
But if I knew that it was going to happen over and over and over again forever, I'd probably freak the fuck out.
But that might be what life is.
lil duval
Yeah.
That's definitely what life is.
joe rogan
It could be.
And it's just as weird as life itself.
lil duval
It's not weird.
It's great when you look at it as beauty.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Right.
It's just like I look at it like this.
Like certain things I'd never...
I asked for, I thought it would happen, but it happens in certain...
Like, my...
Certain spirits is just going to come towards.
That's why I think we're more spirit than we are anything else, because where I'm from or where you're from, we would have never met.
We would have never thanked.
But even we just come in here, we can vibe and...
And it just, you can feel it.
I can feel it.
You can just feel it like, damn.
This shit's supposed to be here at this time, at this moment.
It's just all a part of the moment.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I do get what you're saying.
It's like there's a process going on.
And all the ups and downs.
lil duval
Yeah, we're just talking.
But it's a process in the spirit that's using us at this moment to get whatever they're getting out of it and then go somewhere else.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
lil duval
You get what I'm saying?
I wish I could draw it in.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
I've thought about this before, too, because I've thought that ideas...
Imagine if ideas were a life form.
I mean, an idea just comes in your head.
Like, say if you have an invention.
lil duval
That's with the internet.
joe rogan
In a lot of ways, right?
But I think in an idea in general, it might be a type of life form.
Like, what are these ideas?
I think this is sativa.
I don't know what that is.
I won't try.
Give it a shot.
But that...
What was I just saying?
I swear I had a point.
lil duval
Ah, shit, my bad.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to throw you off, bro.
joe rogan
I was trying to be a good host there.
lil duval
Nah, it's all good, man.
I was just vibing.
joe rogan
I completely forgot what I was saying.
lil duval
Fuck, what did he say?
unidentified
It was important, too, apparently.
lil duval
It'll bump back in.
It'll bump back in.
It'll just vibe with it.
At the end of the day, I do feel like it's bigger than us.
unidentified
Even us two.
lil duval
It ain't even about this.
It's about whatever this spirit is going to take to something else.
Whatever that is.
joe rogan
Well, one of the things that I think is great about cool conversations...
lil duval
Stuff we can't even articulate.
joe rogan
Cool conversations like this that we could get and put on the internet, it's a fun conversation and it makes people want to have more cool, fun conversations.
It makes people better at it.
I think that talking in a lot of ways is like an art form.
People can talk and it's annoying, but it's their expressing.
It's their self-expression, even if it's just regular communication, where some people can talk, they can tell you anything.
And their voice is so cool, you want to hear them talk about everything.
Tell me about some other shit.
lil duval
But I don't think I talk that good when it comes to shit.
I'm good at just conversation talk, maybe.
joe rogan
But conversation talk is what everybody wants.
You're authentic.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what people want.
People want to hear a guy talk like you that's just talking the way you talk rather than someone who's talking like a newscaster or a morning radio personality.
lil duval
But I think people need more to see how people move by actions.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You need to see because I could talk.
That's like a preacher.
A preacher could talk you out of all your money if he know how to talk.
unidentified
Right.
lil duval
That don't mean he's a good motherfucker.
joe rogan
That's true.
lil duval
That's true.
I'd rather person judge me off my actions more than my words.
Because my words might offend you, you might get pissed off, but...
unidentified
I completely understand what you're saying.
lil duval
None of my actions are going to show a flaw in it.
joe rogan
None of them?
lil duval
And if there is, I can accept my flaws.
I mean, I can say, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I did that.
You know what I'm saying?
But for the most part, genuinely, I'm always moving in the way to where...
I'm not trying.
I'm just moving in the way of the good way in the space of...
Of more benefiting you than me.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
I believe you too.
I can tell you.
I can tell you are on that kind of a path.
But the thing that I was getting at in a way is that both those things are important.
The way you talk is very important too.
Because the way you talk, it affects young people in particular.
It's cool.
I'm listening to you philosophize on things and just relax the pros.
If I can't control, what the fuck am I worrying about it?
And that is a message that a lot of kids could use.
lil duval
You know, somebody just said on my Instagram today, they said I'm like the Robin Hood of knowledge for the hood.
But they said, hold up.
And I was like, damn, I like that.
Because it do feel like that.
I feel like I'm able to articulate it for people like me to get it.
You get what I'm saying?
joe rogan
100%, yeah.
And also, there's nothing about you while you're trying to talk where it's contrived.
lil duval
Robin Hood of knowledge.
joe rogan
Robin Hood of knowledge.
There's nothing about the way you talk that's contrived.
And that's what's lacking.
What people are lacking is people...
It bothers people.
When you're talking to someone and they're doing the morning news guy voice, you don't even know who the fuck that guy is.
You have no idea.
There's a style of talk that they make them do if they want to tell the news in the morning.
But you don't have goddamn clues to who that guy is.
When you talk about something, you have zero of that.
You have zero of that fake thing that you're trying to project out there.
The fake thing's a weird thing.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
Very good to see you this evening.
We're having a wonderful time here at the show.
And you see darkness behind that guy's eyes.
He's talking like family friendly.
lil duval
I think that come from where I ain't had no choice but to be myself.
I kind of molded myself.
I never was raised with rules.
So now trying to be fake, it's harder for me to be fake than it is for me to be real.
Like I can't, I be trying to put on the face and don't work.
Like I be really wanting to be fake because it seems like it worked for other people.
But I can't, like I be trying to.
So it's like easier for me to be fake.
To be just genuine.
Because I'm not good at lying like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's definitely easy to be genuine, but it's hilarious that you tried to be fake.
How would you ever try to be fake?
lil duval
Because it'd be working for niggas, man.
I'd be like, shit!
joe rogan
What did you do?
What did you do where you tried?
lil duval
Like, just trying to go in a room and do the industry talk shit and act like I care.
Like, I don't give a fuck.
Like, it just get boring and shit, so...
joe rogan
Thank God.
Thank God you're here.
lil duval
I never...
I never gave a fuck about...
I never gave a fuck about...
The only reason I want to be famous is just to be with the people.
I never gave a fuck about the industry part of it.
Like that.
I... Maybe because I've been doing it a long time now in my world.
Maybe that's what it is.
So it don't intrigue me as much.
You know, it's like fucking a bitch a thousand times.
Maybe that's what it is, but...
I don't know.
Shit don't do nothing for me like that.
joe rogan
What does it do?
lil duval
The entertainment part of it?
It gets me to where I can get to the people.
That's what I use it for.
I love the people, for real.
And the funny thing about it is I recently found out Harriet Tubman is my aunt blowing up for real.
Really?
So that's why I feel like that.
I do like helping people.
I do like helping.
joe rogan
She's your great aunt?
lil duval
Yeah.
On my granny's side.
unidentified
Wow.
lil duval
My name's on the statue.
Hold on, I got that too.
Let's see.
My brain.
This is my brain.
joe rogan
Your brain's on a statue?
lil duval
No, I'm saying I got my brain.
No, man.
I'm saying I got the statue in here in my brain.
My brain is in the iCloud.
joe rogan
Your name's on the statue.
lil duval
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
The brain's on the iCloud.
lil duval
Yeah, my name's on the Harriet Tubman statue.
joe rogan
Have you always been like that?
Did that change at all when you started smoking weed?
lil duval
No, I always loved people.
That's where my name comes from, just representing Jacksonville, Duval.
I've always did that so whenever I can't rep it, it's in my name.
So it's kind of like psychologically for a person that's not from there, it makes them see something because you are what you see.
So that's why I always use that name.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
To elevate the people from where you came from?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
That's a beautiful name for a name.
That might be one of the best names.
lil duval
Duval?
joe rogan
Yeah, because the sentiment behind it, that's one of the best names I've ever heard.
I love that.
I love that you're doing that.
But I love the thought behind it.
lil duval
That was the whole thought from day one.
I mean, I've always knew I was, like, even where I grew up, I always knew, like, I ain't supposed to be here.
Like, what the fuck am I doing in this shit?
But then I was like, maybe God put me here to see this shit.
For that reason.
joe rogan
To get out and tell everybody that you can get out too.
lil duval
Not just to be an example, you know, because I mean, I think the world is going to evolve how it's going to evolve, but I don't want the people from where I'm from to get left behind too.
So it's just like, alright, let me show y'all what's going on so you can get a chance to be in the same situation.
Just to see the world a little more, you know.
So, that's why.
Behold, let me find this.
joe rogan
That's a great name and a great reason for a name, man.
lil duval
Yeah, but Harriet Tubman.
So, the Harriet Tubman thing just made me realize, like, damn, that's why maybe I'm like this.
It just all goes back to the nature thing we were saying.
Like, it's in us over time.
You start realizing.
joe rogan
That might really be where it does come from.
I mean, who knows where personality traits like that do come from, besides learning from the people around me?
lil duval
And my grandfather.
That's not even like my blood grandfather, because I grew up with three granddaddies, and I didn't realize that wasn't normal until I got older.
But he was always in the community in Jacksonville, so I think I get a lot of that from watching him growing up.
joe rogan
Probably, yeah.
Yeah, if he's a mentor figure and you saw the benefit that he got out of it.
lil duval
I don't even know if I saw the benefit.
I just think it's just...
Come second nature, you are what you become.
I mean, you are what you see, and that's just the way I've moved from around older people.
Like, I've always been around older people, and then I think older people, people that was raised by older people, they end up being all right, because older people teach you the right values in life.
My first friends was old people.
They used to have bridge parties and shit.
Here it go right here.
joe rogan
Let me see what you got.
lil duval
Shit.
You know, the shit in the brain has got to remember, like, hold on, let me think about it.
Let me think.
joe rogan
Seriously, what data plan are you on?
This is the slowest I've ever seen a photo come up.
lil duval
I told you I got creaky.
joe rogan
We're still waiting on that line.
lil duval
Oh, the line?
I forgot all about the fucking line.
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Hold up.
lil duval
Y'all going to think I'm lying and shit.
joe rogan
Okay, what do you got here?
lil duval
Oh, that's the wrong one.
joe rogan
That's what?
lil duval
That was the wrong one.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
lil duval
Fuck, I had just posted on...
Well, that's the monument in Bristol, Pennsylvania or some shit like that.
In Bristol.
joe rogan
And is it just her living, surviving relatives on the monument?
lil duval
Yeah, yeah.
All the names of the people that...
joe rogan
Wow.
lil duval
There go my name.
That's all my mama, my sister, my nephew, all of us on the...
That's some dope shit, you know.
So I can talk shit about that too.
For sure.
Nigga, you ain't got nobody.
Grandma, great-grandma Harriet Tubman, though.
joe rogan
I wonder how much of that actually gets in your genes.
lil duval
I think all they do.
It's just like an athlete.
It's like athletes.
The next athlete be better and better and better.
It's like that.
It's just natural.
It's genetics.
It's just naturally in you.
It's just like spirits.
It's just naturally spirits.
We probably met four spirits ago.
joe rogan
Probably.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, like maybe we're out.
Like if we are both living the same life over and over and over again, we've probably done this a couple times.
lil duval
Yeah.
Maybe so.
joe rogan
For sure.
lil duval
That'd be dope.
joe rogan
Come back the next lifetime Hey man I know you Well there's people That you run into In your life Where you do feel like They're supposed to be Like there's people that you run into like this person is me, I'm them, we're family.
You know that and you'll keep that forever.
I got friends, long-term friends for 25, almost 30 years that are family.
They might as well be me.
You get to that point with certain people where you know them and you love them so well.
lil duval
How does it feel over 50?
You think that's because over 50 it makes you feel like, alright, I gotta keep the friends I get close by?
joe rogan
No.
That's one thing I don't worry about.
unidentified
I know I'm 52. Are you worried about being alone?
joe rogan
No.
Not right now.
Maybe one day I would be.
But right now, what I'm worried about more than anything is just keeping my health.
You know, just make sure I exercise and eat correctly and take a lot of supplements and make sure I keep my health.
lil duval
To live two more years, Beth?
joe rogan
Not even that.
Just maintain quality of life.
See, everybody's worried about extension.
You can get hit by a car tomorrow and be in the best shape of your life.
You can look like Ronnie Coleman when he won Mr. Olympia.
Still get hit by a car and die.
lil duval
It doesn't matter.
I think happy people live the longest...
joe rogan
I think they live longer.
But how long is longest?
I mean, even if you're pushing 114, if you're dead at 112 or 114, you're not going to fucking care.
The end is near.
lil duval
Yeah, but I mean, like, just most of the people I see that's older...
That's genuinely happy and moving and healthy looking, they're happy.
Those would be the moving ones, they'd be happy.
The ones, they'd be like that.
joe rogan
There's a lady that goes to this yoga class.
lil duval
It's like cancer.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, specifically exercise.
You can see people that are in their 70s.
They're still fit.
They're still exercising.
They're still working out.
They don't have a problem when they can't move around.
When you get too old, your body starts to fall apart.
One of the biggest problems is you can't get around.
lil duval
Let me ask you this.
And this might be weird or stupid.
Turtles live like 100 years.
joe rogan
A lot more than that.
lil duval
Well, however long.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
They don't do that much movement.
joe rogan
It's true.
lil duval
If we didn't do that much movement, we could live longer.
joe rogan
I don't think that's how it works, but I do think it has an impact, a slight impact.
lil duval
I mean, because it's like we're using, it's like a car engine, you keep running it hard, it's going, no matter how much it's helping, it's going to hurt it more than it's helping.
joe rogan
There's a statistic about professional athletes not living to over 100 and how many professional athletes die before they reach 100 versus regular people.
lil duval
Tall people don't live alone.
joe rogan
Too much distance between their heart and their body.
lil duval
Short people live alone because I'm good.
That's why I ain't tripping.
Y'all got to worry about y'all health.
I ain't got to worry about that shit.
joe rogan
That's true.
Really tall people.
What is the average age...
What's the oldest a professional athlete has lived?
jamie vernon
Borderline.
They've been around for a hundred years, right?
When was the professional last sport started?
unidentified
That's a good point.
lil duval
Bill Russell?
joe rogan
That's a good point.
lil duval
Bill Russell's got to be the oldest athlete.
Tall motherfucker.
He's the oldest tall motherfucker I've ever seen live.
joe rogan
He looks perfect.
lil duval
Him and Kareem?
joe rogan
He looks fine.
lil duval
Him and Kareem?
How old is Kareem?
joe rogan
He's old, man.
He was in a Bruce Lee movie.
Remember?
lil duval
Yeah, damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was.
jamie vernon
There's three football...
joe rogan
What is that, Game of Death?
jamie vernon
98, 97, 97, 96. A couple 90-plus-year-olds that were playing football.
joe rogan
Football players?
Whoa!
lil duval
But what's the percentage of that, though?
joe rogan
But you know what?
When they played football in the 20s, they had those bullshit helmets.
You couldn't just clash into each other like today.
lil duval
But see, when you're little, you don't have to worry about all that.
We're going to live.
We're going to live.
All we got to do is just be happy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
Think about all the old people short.
joe rogan
That's true.
There's a lot of short old people.
Not a lot of giant old dudes.
lil duval
Nah, there ain't too many big old motherfuckers.
There ain't too many fat old motherfuckers.
joe rogan
No, that's...
lil duval
B.B. King might have been one of the last ones.
He lived a long, old, fat life.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of them died real young.
Like Ralphie Mae.
lil duval
Yeah, Ralphie Mae.
joe rogan
Rest in peace, Ralphie.
Ralphie was in his 40s, right?
Mm-hmm.
John Candy, I think he was in his 40s, too.
He was a big guy.
lil duval
Man.
I don't even get into, like, when people die to age, because we all...
I mean, I know they say too soon.
I don't really know if it's too soon or too late, because at the end of the day, it's still all, like, 100 years in the mix of 100 years.
Just do what you can while you're here.
joe rogan
Yeah, do what you can while you're here.
Don't sweat it.
Don't try to change things.
You can't change.
lil duval
Hell no.
joe rogan
And that's the big one.
The big one you can't change is your own fragility.
lil duval
Where do you get that from?
The Game of Thrones or some shit?
joe rogan
The clock?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, that's from Russell Bilt, the dude on Instagram who makes dope custom metal clocks.
He does everything himself.
He welds it together.
lil duval
I got to start getting some dope shit.
I don't want to be accepting stuff like that because people want stuff back.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
People want stuff back.
lil duval
If you're going to give it to me, give it to me for me.
And if I choose to post it, I might.
But don't.
I've had people send me things.
I don't want to say missed out, but a lot of money I turned down just because I don't do that type of shit like that.
joe rogan
I don't do it either.
But I've had people send me things and then send me a script.
Could you please put this on social media?
Like they wrote it for me.
Holy shit, is this cool?
Literally, they write it out for you.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
lil duval
They make it bad, man.
joe rogan
They don't care.
lil duval
They don't care.
joe rogan
They're just trying to get something from you to help their business.
lil duval
Yeah, and I hate that.
Especially me, I do shit really from the heart, and I do it because I want to do it.
I don't expect nothing in return.
So when people don't have that same type of mindset, I don't want to help them.
joe rogan
Exactly.
lil duval
You can get it how you want to get it, but I just don't feel it because you're not good for the ecosystem.
Right.
Fuck it up.
joe rogan
That's true.
If you're around people that have that negative mentality, it's a drain.
It's not an asset.
It's a drain.
It will fuck it up.
lil duval
Yeah, man.
You got to keep genuine people around you.
I try to just keep that spirit.
Or keep it going that way.
I try to put that instill in Andrew, too.
I fuck with Andrew Schultz, man.
He's a good guy.
And he's one of the funniest motherfuckers.
It's two people that I put up that I think the funniest people.
Him and J-Ski.
Them two motherfuckers.
And I ain't just saying it because they're my friends.
They are my friends and I might be biased, but I still would put them up against anybody.
joe rogan
I don't know J-Ski, but I love Andrew.
He's awesome.
I just love how he markets himself, too.
He's relentless.
He didn't need Netflix.
He didn't need anything else.
He's done it all himself.
He does it like a business.
lil duval
He's stand-up, stand-up.
And that's one of the artists that's kind of dying, you know what I'm saying?
But he's like a stand-up, stand-up.
And he keeps it.
I envy him how he do it, because I'm more into entertaining and doing stand-up and doing everything else.
But just straight-core stand-up, I like that shit.
And he takes it there.
Sometimes I have to reel him back, though, because he will go too far.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
You know, he's like on that borderline of crazy and genius.
Like, you gotta say, alright, nigga.
joe rogan
Well, he's taking risks.
You know, if you want to make some good comedy, you gotta take some risks.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's interesting for me to see people like him that have a great work ethic.
He's a brilliant guy in terms of how he's putting things out there and editing things and strategizing and doing shows in Russia.
lil duval
He studies the game, man.
He studies, he sees, and he takes his thing.
joe rogan
That's good for young guys to see.
lil duval
Once he understood, you don't need Hollywood no more.
Especially in our generation, they're stuck in the mindset of thinking, That is Hollywood, but that don't really exist in this day and age like that.
Not as much as impact on the culture like it used to.
joe rogan
It has an impact, but it's not the only impact.
lil duval
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
It's not the end all.
So you can create your own shit.
This internet made it an even playing field.
You can do your own thing, so you don't really have to Just use that route.
And once he understood that, he took it and ran with it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not even an even playing field.
It actually tips the other way because you need to use the internet no matter who you are.
lil duval
Exactly.
joe rogan
You need to use the internet if you're...
lil duval
And they got to come to you.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're a motion picture company trying to promote a movie, you got to use the internet.
lil duval
And they got to come to you now.
Now you're the network and they got to come to you for the brands and the ads and shit like that to...
So you're Hollywood now.
joe rogan
I'm Hollywood.
I'm Hollywood.
lil duval
You're in Hollywood.
You're really the new Janet Carson around this motherfucker.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
lil duval
You know?
Shit, being on this shit, from the way people have been saying shit, they've been like, man, you gotta get on that show.
Honestly, I... I just respect you as a comic.
joe rogan
Thank you.
lil duval
I don't see people as the fame part of it.
I just see it as he doing his thing, he got his lane, he winning.
I don't be seeing the big, big picture of it and the way people seeing it.
And I'm like, this motherfucker got a goddamn cult following around this motherfucker.
You gotta go get on there.
You just gotta get on the show.
And I was like...
Alright, I'mma get on the motherfucker.
And Shels was like, man, y'all damn near the same person.
Y'all gotta meet.
Y'all gotta meet.
I'm like, man, motherfucker don't know shit about me, man.
You think about me?
You don't give a fuck about me.
joe rogan
I do, though.
lil duval
Yeah, man, so it's just dope, man.
It's dope.
joe rogan
It's dope to have you here, man.
It's been fun.
lil duval
How long we been talking shit?
joe rogan
It's two hours now.
lil duval
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like two o'clock.
lil duval
Oh, okay.
That's cool, man.
joe rogan
Light that joint, man.
lil duval
No problem.
I'm stealing some of this shit.
joe rogan
Steal?
Free?
lil duval
You know, niggas steal free shit.
joe rogan
They give you whatever you need, man.
We get a drop-off from Speedweed.
Do you ever use Speedweed in L.A.? It's a weed delivery service from my friend Gino.
Outstanding.
Five stars.
lil duval
Send me some shit.
Deliver me some shit.
joe rogan
Well, ordinarily we keep a chest.
We have a war chest.
He gives us this giant wooden box filled with weed, but we kind of drained it.
So they're filling it up so he has to come back.
Should have had him come back before you were here.
A tragic missite.
I've been having a lot of those lately.
lil duval
You studied like a... a...
Buddhism and Hindu?
joe rogan
I've studied a little bit of it.
I've read a little bit of it.
I've never practiced it.
lil duval
I try to practice it in my way of living.
I think all that shit comes from the start of Hinduism.
I think that's what it was saying.
I just like the piece of it.
I think that's where it all starts.
Just nature and you can just live free.
But everybody can't live free because some of them motherfuckers are crazy.
joe rogan
The Hindu stuff, the ancient Hindu stuff is fascinating because they always talked about this shit called Soma and no one knows exactly what it was.
lil duval
What was it?
joe rogan
It seems like it was some sort of a psychedelic.
I don't think they've ever figured out what it is.
They think it might have been like mushrooms mixed with something else and they called it Soma.
They might have created some sort of a concoction.
They would do it and trip balls and figure things out.
lil duval
Soma.
joe rogan
It's probably real similar to what's happening when people are tripping today.
When you were saying that you took four grams, it's probably real similar.
That feeling's probably real similar throughout history.
People have figured out different ways to get it.
lil duval
Man, when I was on that shit, I seen the $100 bill, the hologram on that bitch was up.
unidentified
Like...
lil duval
You know the little hologram?
That shit comes up off the dollar.
I mean, off the $100 bill.
joe rogan
When you're on mushrooms, it does?
lil duval
Mine did.
That motherfucker came up.
joe rogan
Imagine if that's how the cops find out if you're on mushrooms.
lil duval
That's why I was like, whoever made the $100 bill, they was on shrooms.
Or acid.
That shit.
unidentified
Or it's just an unintended side effect.
lil duval
I don't know.
I can't think of nothing bad about it.
Like, I just, only bad is maybe I wouldn't do it in front of people like that yet.
Because I'd be just loose.
joe rogan
They did some studies on mushrooms and they found that it actually increases people's vision in low doses.
It makes your vision more accurate.
Like, if they have parallel lines, I forget what the study, who did the study, but the study was if you have these two parallel lines and one of them shifts ever so slightly offline, You would be able to detect it quicker when you're on psilocybin than when you're not.
So this is statistically proven with randomly selected people who are either on or not on.
And they ran this series of tests, and they found that the people were more effective at detecting whether or not the angle has changed.
So you can see better.
You have a better view of reality when you're on mushrooms.
lil duval
I'm going to start telling my homeboys that I act like I'm smart.
You know mushrooms make you see that.
I'm telling you that.
joe rogan
Well, they think it might have been one of the things that led to us evolving.
lil duval
Shrooms?
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
They made a C? Oh!
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You ever watch that show?
That's a good show.
joe rogan
Which show?
lil duval
C. No, what is that?
That's with the guy from Aquaman.
joe rogan
Oh, Jason Momoa?
Oh, that's right.
What is that called?
That's a new Apple show, right?
lil duval
Yeah, it's called C. That's good?
joe rogan
It's a good show?
lil duval
No, that's a real good show.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
Yeah, and it's about them being blind.
Damn, that makes sense.
So it's like...
joe rogan
Not that it created vision, but that it improved vision.
And it was one of several things I think led to us evolving quicker.
One of them was that we started experimenting with different food sources.
We had more access to bugs and rats and all these little things that we could catch.
We started hunting things.
Then we started using tools to figure out how to hunt things.
And all during this process, we're eating weed and we're eating mushrooms.
So we're probably interacting with these psychedelic compounds that people have used for thousands and thousands of years when we were a primitive man.
And so as we're taking these things...
We're trying to figure out new ways to hunt, new ways to protect ourselves from our enemies, new ways to farm.
We start inventing things.
We start inventing language.
I think there's a direct connection between psilocybin use and the ability to create words and language.
lil duval
So really we are just nature.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
We just keep evolving and evolving.
joe rogan
We're nature that lives in houses.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what we are.
lil duval
That's crazy.
Like now that I'm thinking like so the shrooms, so really everything came from the shroom and the shroom kind of...
joe rogan
Shroom used us.
lil duval
Yeah, the shroom used us and growing into us to...
joe rogan
The shroom used us to manifest reality.
The shroom used us to create life.
It's not just the shroom.
It's the ideas, too.
I think all these ideas that you get...
We were talking about this earlier.
What is an idea?
If you have an idea like, hey, I'm going to invent this thing.
This thing's going to benefit mankind.
You just have some crazy idea that's supposed to fix things.
Maybe it sucks pollution out of the air.
And then someone takes that and runs with it and improves something else.
Then someone takes that and improves something else.
You're doing this on giant scales.
Millions and millions and millions of people are doing this, and they're contributing to this, and they're all using ideas.
They have ideas, and they turn that idea into a physical form, and then every year they expect it to get better and better and better.
Every year they innovate.
Nobody ever looks at a television and goes, 72 inches, it looks clear, let's just stop.
No more TVs.
lil duval
That's plenty big.
joe rogan
Always gotta get bigger.
Always.
But why?
The reward is improvement.
Like, it's constantly gearing towards improvement.
lil duval
It's like we need that.
It's boredom.
Boredom makes us do more.
joe rogan
And these are ideas, right?
Ideas that we turn into things.
And along the way, there's a bunch of shit that fuels our desire...
To get those things and make these things happen, like lust, like materialism, like maybe what materialism where people worry about it being so empty, maybe what it is is a function of getting us to invest heavily in newer, better shit so that more things accelerate faster and faster.
And that these new inventions come at a faster and faster rate, because that's what we're constantly focused on, is newer, better shit.
So they're constantly inventing and improving.
And all the while, we're just dumping money into the birth of our successor.
lil duval
Yeah, the technology.
So we're just a movement.
joe rogan
We're evolved from the shrooms to the human, to the ideas, to the culture, to the different cultures interacting with each other, the resistance of these cultures interacting with each other.
lil duval
So we're just an organism.
joe rogan
We're an organism.
Yeah.
A fucking awesome one, though.
I mean, no organism is having as much of a fucking good time as we.
lil duval
Yeah, fuck what they talking about.
Ain't nobody getting shot.
Ain't nobody doing all that type of shit.
That shit look boring to me.
joe rogan
Nobody sending videos through the air.
lil duval
Yeah, they ain't FaceTiming.
Ain't nobody getting porn and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, nobody's flying helicopters.
lil duval
Yeah, they ain't flying like that.
joe rogan
Getting in submarines.
People getting in submarines, man.
lil duval
Yeah, I ain't never seen no goddamn...
I ain't never seen no lion 120 feet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
I done that.
joe rogan
Fuck submarines, man.
If you were high on a submarine...
lil duval
I always wondered, like, that got to be the dumbest job to ever want.
Like, do you know you're like...
Have you ever been...
Have you ever schooled with that?
Like I just told you.
joe rogan
I snorkeled.
That's the most I've ever done.
lil duval
Like I was saying, like scuba diving, by the time you get past 100 feet, it's just dark.
It's nothing down there.
That's worse than being in jail in solitary confinement.
And how long do they be down there?
There's people that be in them submarines.
joe rogan
Oh, for a long time.
lil duval
They gotta be crazy.
And there's no way you can't tell me, like, that solitary confinement by themselves.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also fear.
lil duval
That's just like on that movie I was seeing on, I mean, that show, For All Mankind.
They was up there going crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
They was going crazy because they had to wait for something to be fixed for them to sit up there.
So every two weeks they had to wait and they was watching the same show over and over.
Over and over.
They had to practice that shit.
And they went crazy.
I couldn't imagine.
jamie vernon
Average 30 days up to 100. Underwater?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
30 days, bro.
30 days underwater.
How bad is that toilet smell, by the way?
We should talk to some seaman.
lil duval
How much do they get paid to do that?
How much do they get paid to do that?
joe rogan
Not enough.
There's no way they would get paid enough.
30 days underwater?
It could be all the money in the world.
If they were getting paid correctly, there'd be no money left for anybody else.
30 days underwater in a submarine.
What?
That's the craziest reality show ever.
Shit!
I just put that out in the universe.
Someone's gonna do it.
They're going to be, it's called Project Nemo.
Big Brother Project Nemo.
You just film people underwater for 30 days.
lil duval
I'll be like, hell nah, I know when Joe said that shit.
joe rogan
That could be a great reality show.
Look, whoever is listening that's thinking about doing it, just go ahead and do it.
Make it.
You can have that one.
lil duval
Do it.
joe rogan
Have that one.
lil duval
Do it for the culture.
joe rogan
That's for you.
lil duval
Do it for the coach.
joe rogan
That would be a popular show.
A fucking submarine filled with people for 30 days.
I don't even want to get on a cruise ship, man.
Do you fuck with cruise ships?
lil duval
No, I've never been on a cruise ship.
Never want to.
I'm not that guy.
I don't like being in the place.
I like being in my own place like the island that I'm on.
There's not nobody there.
I don't want to be in the middle of the ocean.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
And I can't go where I want to go.
Right.
You're not going to do me like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's also like...
lil duval
And I know how powerful that ocean is, so I'm not playing with that.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
lil duval
Most powerful thing on earth.
joe rogan
It's also like the thing that's beautiful about you and your plane is you can go wherever the fuck you want.
You get up and fly and you're free.
You get to experience it.
Same thing sort of in a boat.
No.
lil duval
Why not?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm thinking about it right now.
But the same thing in a boat.
Like when you're in a boat, right?
You're out there on the ocean.
You can go left.
You can go right.
You can go wherever the fuck you want.
That's something beautiful about a boat.
Is that you're gliding across the top of this water and you're kind of in control of your destiny.
You can kind of decide where you want to go.
You can be casual.
You can enjoy the, let's just drive along the coastline.
But if you're in a fucking cruise liner, you ain't doing none of that.
lil duval
You ain't doing none of that.
You gotta go where they want you to go.
And you're And you're on there with a bunch of other people.
joe rogan
And everyone's drunk.
lil duval
If I don't want to be bothered with somebody, I don't want to just sit in my room cooped up.
joe rogan
And every now and then people throw people overboard.
lil duval
I don't like tourist spots like that.
joe rogan
It's surprising how rarely it happens if people throw people overboard.
lil duval
Probably lately.
joe rogan
Husband and wife.
lil duval
Back in the day they probably used to, but they probably got it to where you can't throw people off.
joe rogan
No, you can still throw people off.
lil duval
Because like in Vegas, they can't jump off no fucking building no more.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
They ain't got balconies on them casinos, not in the regular hotel rooms.
joe rogan
Because too many people were jumping.
lil duval
Too many people was jumping.
unidentified
That's a crazy way to go.
jamie vernon
Nearly 300 people since 2000 have gone overboard on cruise ships and ferries.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
They included that too.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
How many people have been recovered?
jamie vernon
This was according to a professor in Canada, so I don't know if that's just Canada.
joe rogan
Do they ever recover them?
Have you ever heard of one getting recovered?
jamie vernon
Don't they just keep going usually?
Because they can't stop.
joe rogan
Oh my god, they can't stop.
Is that true?
lil duval
Bro.
jamie vernon
I've just heard that you got to be careful because they're not going to stop for you.
I've never been on one, so I don't know.
I've just heard that.
lil duval
That's one I don't care about because I'm never doing it.
joe rogan
Oh my god, fuck that.
Are you crazy?
unidentified
They don't stop for you if you fall overboard?
lil duval
I feel like if you want to do that, do you.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jamie, we might be getting sued now by the cruise lines.
jamie vernon
Someone might stop for you.
joe rogan
There is absolutely no merit in anything young Jamie has said.
I disavow.
jamie vernon
If you could see the amount of smoke in this room.
joe rogan
I disavow.
lil duval
I don't even know what he said that's wrong.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
He said if someone fell overboard, they wouldn't even stop.
lil duval
Oh.
joe rogan
Well, we lost him.
I was like, do they go get you?
How many times do they get you after you fall overboard?
Don't they stop?
If they don't stop, that is fucked up.
If you go overboard and they don't have some sort of a solution to try to go get you, that seems crazy.
lil duval
But if you did it on your own will, you crazy.
joe rogan
That's true.
jamie vernon
You gotta survive the fall first.
lil duval
Oh, really?
jamie vernon
Because the ships are very high, what I'm reading right here.
They do have a process to go get people if they fall.
I think they have smaller ships they can send out and go back and get you.
joe rogan
Dude, you gotta survive the fall.
unidentified
I didn't even think of that.
joe rogan
That's a long jump to the bottom, right?
What if you hit it face first like an asshole?
That's a fucked up way to go, man.
Falling off a cruise ship in the middle of the night.
unidentified
Ah!
Shit.
Splash.
lil duval
I've been in plenty of countries where if you just want to drive off, you can.
joe rogan
Right.
lil duval
So, I mean, if you don't value your life, shit, you can't put everybody else in upset.
I'm not going to be more upset about it than you are.
joe rogan
If that's what happened, if people just jump off, I understand what you're saying.
lil duval
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
But sometimes people get thrown off.
lil duval
Oh, well, that's, yeah.
joe rogan
It's always like a husband's like, I don't know where she went.
lil duval
I came out here.
joe rogan
I came out here.
You know, she wasn't here anymore.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
They see him the day before.
lil duval
I don't know what happened.
joe rogan
They see him walking around the day before looking up for every security camera.
They got him on footage marking security cameras, trying to figure out where's the best place to throw overboard.
lil duval
The love boat.
joe rogan
Soon we'll be making another run.
lil duval
I was watching that not too long ago.
jamie vernon
This says they turn around.
joe rogan
They turn around.
Who says?
They do.
If it falls off of that, man, it's so hard to put back in place.
lil duval
Oh, shit.
My bad, man.
joe rogan
That's amazing that you didn't knock it off.
lil duval
I thought it was like one of them that you touch it and the light touch.
joe rogan
No, there's some magnet that is making it float in the air, but when I tell you it has to be perfect, I mean, it is so hard to do.
Jimmy, how long did it take you to do that?
jamie vernon
I didn't even get to do it.
Someone else had to do it.
joe rogan
Did Taylor do it?
jamie vernon
I've done it once.
joe rogan
Jeff did it.
lil duval
Oh, shit.
I'm glad I didn't fucking know it.
unidentified
No, no worries.
joe rogan
It takes like...
10 minutes sometimes.
jamie vernon
15 minutes.
Yeah, you could get lucky and do it right away, or you might be...
lil duval
I just was doing like this.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Who gave us that again?
lil duval
And I was about to do this next.
I didn't even know it wasn't connected.
joe rogan
Think on that.
jamie vernon
I know who it was.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
You do?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
But yeah, we came real close.
I thought that was going down.
That one next to it, that's a real...
lil duval
Fuck the whole vibe up, man.
joe rogan
No, no, it would have been fine.
That's too fragile.
I mean, it's awesome.
But I mean, if that's what happened, it's not your fault.
That fucking helmet is the shit, though.
Look at that.
lil duval
I saw that, too.
joe rogan
Is that from Platoon?
lil duval
Is that from the movie Platoon?
joe rogan
No, no, it's a real helmet.
lil duval
See, you Hollywood, so I thought you were Hollywood.
joe rogan
No, that's a guy named Shane Against the Machine.
He's also an artist on Instagram.
I bought a couple of things from him, but this one is a real helmet from World War II and a real bayonet that they converted into a lamp.
lil duval
That's hard.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, it's weird.
Every time I look at it, I think about, like, somehow or another, this helmet from war from the 1940s is now a lamp in my studio.
lil duval
How do you think the next war gonna be?
joe rogan
I'm terrified.
I'm terrified.
lil duval
I think it's going to be kind of socially.
I mean, not socially.
I think it's going to be more...
joe rogan
Electronically?
lil duval
Yeah, electronically.
joe rogan
It could be.
It also could be diseases.
It could be engineered diseases that wipe out half the fucking population.
unidentified
Yeah, like that.
joe rogan
So many different things can happen.
Russia was working on a lot of that shit during the Cold War.
lil duval
I wonder how that shit going to be.
joe rogan
That shit terrifies me.
Diseases and artificially created diseases, that shit's terrifying.
Or even artificially cultivated.
lil duval
And the crazy thing, anybody can be that.
Anybody can make that happen.
joe rogan
Well, some people can.
They definitely did for a while during the Cold War.
It's just, we're lucky that...
lil duval
I'm talking about anybody can make a disease, damn near now, if you, with technology and just learning off the internet, you can teach yourself how to do something.
joe rogan
You can, but we went to the Center for Disease Control once for this TV show that I was working at.
We talked to these guys that are working every day in these spacesuits with incredibly toxic viruses.
They have it in Galveston, Texas.
So we went back and we saw these labs and everything like that.
And we were asking them about engineered diseases.
And they go, listen, fuck engineered diseases.
You gotta worry about real ones.
Just regular diseases.
Every now and then a pandemic comes across.
A flu you can't fix.
There's some new Ebola.
There's some new things.
lil duval
There's new flus out this bitch?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's always new strains.
That's why the flu shot doesn't always work correctly on everybody.
lil duval
I've never had a flu shot.
joe rogan
Good for you.
lil duval
I've never had a flu shot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have all the other shots, but I don't get a shot every year.
I just don't know if that's the best way to do it.
lil duval
I think the body is made so perfect As long as you don't abuse it, abuse it.
It's going to heal itself.
joe rogan
Sort of.
But you need penicillin.
You need drugs.
You need a lot of shit.
You need antibiotics.
You need that shit.
You want to stay alive.
You get an infection.
We can have both things.
We can have science and we can have reason.
lil duval
Right.
joe rogan
You can have acceptance of nature.
lil duval
Don't get twisted.
When I get sick, I do use certain shit, but I don't like to rely on it.
I don't know how to swallow pills.
joe rogan
Good for you.
lil duval
I don't know how to swallow pills.
I have never swallowed a pill before in my life.
joe rogan
Do you ever take vitamins?
lil duval
I use BC powders.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
lil duval
Like when I get a headache, I have to take a BC powder.
But as far as that, that's as much as I do.
Like if I have a headache...
joe rogan
Yeah, they make vitamins you can mix in your drinks.
lil duval
I do vitamins.
I take a vitamin like them two-a-days or some shit like that.
joe rogan
How do you take it?
Do you smash it up or something?
Oh, gummy bears.
Oh, that's a good move.
Gummy bears make kids take CBD. Gummy bears are great.
lil duval
Yeah, gummy bears.
joe rogan
Those gummy bear CBDs are great.
lil duval
Are they?
joe rogan
Yeah, very relaxing.
No, I don't, man.
We'll get some.
lil duval
I want to sell some CBD stuff, make my own brand of CBD gummy bears.
Because I used to give my man that had cancer that died, the one I was telling you about.
He used to love them, them CBD things.
I think that would be dope.
joe rogan
Well, people that have arthritis, it's a life changer.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of my friend Dave had these really locked up fingers.
His fingers were fucked up.
He just couldn't bend them, couldn't straighten them out.
He started doing CBD and his hands just slowly but surely relaxed and now they were perfect.
I mean, that was something that was fucking with them for a while.
lil duval
I don't know if it's because over time I haven't dated it, but like when I drive my old school car, the steering wheel is hard to hold.
My hands lock up.
And I wonder is that because over time by using the regular, by the steering wheel getting bigger, has my hand evolved to where it can't even do that no more?
joe rogan
You can't grab a hold of a skinny wheel?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is your old school kind of steering wheel you got on it?
lil duval
It's the little skinny old school.
Old school shit.
joe rogan
What kind of car is it again?
lil duval
Chevy Caprice.
joe rogan
And you said it was 70s?
unidentified
72. 72. You got it all built out?
lil duval
Yeah, with rims, you know, Florida style.
joe rogan
Florida style.
Florida style is giant wheels, right?
Isn't that what Florida style is?
lil duval
Yeah, we like big wheels, old school Chevys.
joe rogan
What is that?
There's a name for that.
lil duval
Which one?
joe rogan
When I posted it on Instagram, we landed in Miami once.
unidentified
A dunk?
joe rogan
What's it called?
Yes.
lil duval
A dunk.
joe rogan
A dunk?
lil duval
Yeah, I got a dunk.
That's one for the show you right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have dunks.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, I was in Miami, and this guy had, it was a really nice car, too, with these ridiculous, huge wagon wheels.
lil duval
Here it go right here.
Mine got 20, I think these 24s, it might be 26s.
joe rogan
Oh my Jesus.
Look at the size of those wheels.
That's outrageous.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good looking car though.
Beautiful.
lil duval
Appreciate it.
joe rogan
I love old cars, man.
lil duval
Shit, Killer Mike got old.
joe rogan
Oh shit, look at that one like that.
Look at that one, that purple one.
lil duval
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Alright, that's beautiful.
The wheels are just ridiculous.
lil duval
I gotta vert like that.
It's just a part of the culture thing.
joe rogan
That is ridiculous, man.
Go back to that purple one, though.
That purple one is beautiful.
Just fuck, get rid of those wheels.
And that thing's perfect.
lil duval
Hold on, go back, go back.
joe rogan
God, that thing's perfect.
lil duval
Go back a little bit.
I'm gonna tell you, like, my type of style.
joe rogan
Dude, that car right there.
lil duval
Like that blue one.
Go up to that blue one.
Like, that's sitting right.
joe rogan
That's sitting right with those wheels?
lil duval
You know what I'm talking about?
It's sitting right.
joe rogan
Oh, leaning back a little bit.
lil duval
Like, it's sitting right.
I like that.
That's how my...
I gotta divert in the...
It sits like that.
joe rogan
See, I grew up driving muscle cars.
lil duval
Where are you originally from?
joe rogan
Well, I was born in New Jersey, but I grew up in Boston.
But I lived everywhere, man.
I lived out here for a little while when I was a kid in San Francisco.
I lived in Florida for a little while, in Gainesville.
You went to Florida?
Yeah, we were in Florida.
We were in Gainesville for like three years.
And then I lived in...
Jamaica Plain, and then I lived in Newton, which is a suburb of Boston.
Then I moved to New York, and then out to here.
lil duval
You started doing stand-up where?
joe rogan
Boston.
lil duval
Okay.
joe rogan
What about you?
lil duval
I started in Atlanta.
joe rogan
Oh.
Atlanta's got a scene.
I've started- The Laughing Skull is a fucking great little club.
lil duval
I've never done it.
joe rogan
Oh, you got to go there, man.
You got to go there.
It's a perfect club.
It's like, I don't know how many it seats.
lil duval
I don't even think it seats 100. I mean, I've heard of it, but I've never been over there.
joe rogan
And it's above this killer burger place.
They have a killer burger place downstairs.
But it's just a cool vibe.
It's a cool vibe.
jamie vernon
74 seats.
joe rogan
74 seats.
74 seats, man.
I try to do that when I'm in Atlanta.
I've done it a few times.
lil duval
I'm going to go up there.
joe rogan
But it's one of those ones that's like...
It's just a perfect little spot.
lil duval
I started at Uptown Comedy Corner in Atlanta in 99. I've been doing 20 years now.
joe rogan
Wow.
lil duval
Yeah.
Shit, why?
I quit.
How long have you been doing?
30. 30?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What is it now?
88. I started...
So, 31. 31 years.
unidentified
I started in 88. I started in 99. 31 years.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
lil duval
That's how I feel.
Like, it feels long, but it don't feel long.
It's like, damn, I'm here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It does and it doesn't.
It does in that it has been a long time, like a lot of times around the sun.
But it doesn't in that it's still exciting.
It's still fun as shit, man.
When I'm about to go up at the store, we're all hanging out and look at my phone, check out my new shit before I go up there.
lil duval
I get more kick out of the crowd doing that than I do the stand-up part of it.
I mean, the socializing stand-up part with people.
Unless I really fuck with them as a person.
You know what I'm saying?
I like the stage more so.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I know what you're saying.
lil duval
Than the comedy, just chilling.
I ain't like that part of that shit.
joe rogan
You don't like chilling?
lil duval
I do.
But I ain't like the part, just the energy around that part of it.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I see what you're saying.
lil duval
I ain't like that part of it.
joe rogan
Well, different places have different vibes.
We're real lucky in LA. Everyone's real friendly, real supportive.
It's very family out here.
Everybody's all huggy.
Everybody's real supportive.
It's never been a time in my career where I remember less bitchiness, less squabbling.
lil duval
When you're dealing at the bottom, it's a lot more scrambling.
It's a lot more dog-eat-dog world, so people cut, do this, do that a little more.
joe rogan
I remember that.
lil duval
It's a little different.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
lil duval
No, I remember.
Come on, you make it, I make it.
That's how I used to think.
And then I realized, these motherfuckers ain't shit.
joe rogan
That is a problem.
You can get one of those these motherfuckers ain't shit guys deeply in your machine.
lil duval
There's plenty of them out there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There's no way you're going to get around that.
That's a test of life.
Life is throwing you another extra puzzle.
lil duval
Yeah, but you can get to a point where you can make your own ecosystem.
joe rogan
That's true.
lil duval
In your own circle.
It's like, alright, you come in here if I won't lie with you.
You come in this if I see if you're genuine enough, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
lil duval
And then if you can't, you do your thing over there.
joe rogan
The problem with those ecosystems is if you get somebody who's not doing their best and is annoying and doesn't want to change.
Sometimes people do get those.
You get haters.
You get people who try to sabotage your fun.
It's real unfortunate when you run into people like that, but they do exist.
lil duval
They do, but I'm a good judgmental character.
I kind of read off vibes.
I don't go by how you treat me.
I go about how you treat other people Because you can really see Because if they treat them like It's a matter of time Treat people that can't do shit for you Do you get a lot of people asking you to do shit?
All the time.
And I have no problem saying no.
I'm not that nigga.
Shit.
joe rogan
It gets a little crazy though, right?
lil duval
Because I do stuff genuine out my heart too, for real.
So when people want me to do stuff, I do what I want to do.
I don't do what you want me to do.
And I know I do enough to where you can't make me feel bad for not doing that.
I don't trip.
I know what I do.
I wouldn't be where I'm at now if I wasn't doing right.
joe rogan
You get dudes who want to open up businesses with you and shit?
lil duval
Oh, all the time.
Everybody knows what I'm doing.
Hey man, I got this little idea, right?
Whenever a person, like, especially when they want to do shows and shit, I'm trying to put something together.
When you hear that, you're like, you ain't gonna do it with me.
Put nothing together.
When you hear that word, I'm trying to put something together.
joe rogan
I'm producing this little thing.
lil duval
Yeah, I'm producing this little thing.
unidentified
I got these.
joe rogan
I'd really love to see if I could attach you to it.
lil duval
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Oh.
lil duval
Yeah, like, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
lil duval
I'm not that gal.
Oh, no.
I hate that.
joe rogan
But that's always part of the whole hustles.
There's always going to be those guys that try to glom on and...
And try to sell something, attaching you to it.
lil duval
And I get it.
That's what they do.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's their hustle.
lil duval
I don't mind you even trying me, but don't be mad at me for saying no.
joe rogan
I do get mad though.
In their eyes, it's the best project of all time.
And it's going to be amazing.
Trust me, it's going to be for your own benefit if you come along on this.
lil duval
That's what I say.
If you mad at me for that, stop fucking with me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You know what I am?
Stop fucking with me, shit.
I don't give a fuck.
Shit, you made this easy for me.
Like, what the fuck?
I'm gonna be alright.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just important to find people that aren't like that.
People that are supportive, supporting each other.
Seeing your friends support your other friends.
lil duval
This tastes good too.
joe rogan
It's good weed, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a sativa.
That stuff's going to make you think about space.
lil duval
Shit, we already talked about that shit.
I was there.
I had to bring myself back because I didn't want to go too far left on the show.
joe rogan
Too far left?
lil duval
Too far out.
Oh, too far out there.
Like this nigga Duval tripping there, you know?
Plus, I can't articulate it enough.
I'm still learning it.
joe rogan
In the Bahamas, they probably have very little light pollution, huh?
No.
lil duval
That's why I say it looks like you out of space.
He came to my house.
Ask him.
That shit looks like out of space.
It feels like you're in a snow globe.
joe rogan
Wow.
lil duval
You see every star.
When you're out there, you realize this is why people thought about out there more.
Because before technology at night, that shit probably was...
You ain't had no choice but to look up there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's what people need to see, right?
lil duval
Yes.
When you look up there, you be like, man, they up there.
Like, something going on.
You see shit going on.
I think they already up there chilling.
It's a club up there.
joe rogan
A club of who?
lil duval
Just people?
Illuminati?
Nah.
joe rogan
No?
Kennedy's?
lil duval
Motherfuckers just chilling.
Like on District 9 and shit.
You seen that movie?
I think that was the movie where they had another little space up there and they was up there chilling.
joe rogan
That was that movie where those aliens came down.
lil duval
They're supposed to be having tourism up there now.
They're trying to do that too.
joe rogan
Tourism and space?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's going to happen.
jamie vernon
Yeah, a hotel they're going to open up soon.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
How the fuck would you be able to sleep when you're hovering over the earth?
lil duval
I wonder how many likes they ever get.
unidentified
A lot.
joe rogan
That would be like the ultimate Instagram influencer big booty girl.
That would be her ultimate pick.
Sticking her ass out and behind her you see the earth.
unidentified
Life is all about being happy.
jamie vernon
I don't buy this.
unidentified
This is NASA 2020. You can go to the ISS. She's going to be selling tummy tea.
joe rogan
You reap what you sow and tummy tea.
lil duval
I've been drinking this juice and look at my stomach.
joe rogan
It is amazing for your hair.
I mean, amazing.
lil duval
What did you say?
jamie vernon
The International Space Station, this article here on NBC said that there's plans to have people going there, not to stay there, but to go there next year, and then a hotel for four people by 2022. Whoa.
joe rogan
Who's going to be the first to fuck on that hotel?
lil duval
I'm going to try.
unidentified
I'm going to try.
lil duval
I'm going to be the first one.
joe rogan
Imagine if they had rules.
lil duval
That would be the first point I'd do.
Because I'm going viral that night.
I'm going Instagram live and fucking.
Oh my God.
And the nut just skeet and just go out.
unidentified
Fly through the sky.
joe rogan
He can blow on it.
He can make nut rings.
lil duval
Nah, I don't know if I'm going to make nut rings.
I think that might be good.
unidentified
There you go, you playing with your nut rings.
joe rogan
Tied it up in a bow.
Oh my god.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
You should be the first to skeet into the air.
lil duval
Skeet in the air!
joe rogan
Just skeet, skeet.
lil duval
Just that skeet, skeet.
Now, I know.
joe rogan
You're just watching Truth Talk.
lil duval
Now, I know them astronauts done that before.
There's no way they was that bored up there and didn't start jacking off and just let that shit skeet off.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think they ever get a moment where they're not under camera.
That's what I would be saying.
lil duval
Man, who gives a fuck?
If you've been up there for months, you think you're going to give a...
What are they going to do to you?
You're like, you know what?
You got to come back down here.
unidentified
All right.
lil duval
The fuck?
Hey, shit.
I guarantee you they done jacked off and let that shit...
There's footage somewhere.
I promise you, we gotta find a cool astronaut to tell us the truth.
You're probably right.
joe rogan
Flying through the air like a cloud.
lil duval
Are we still on the air?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
lil duval
Oh, shit.
That is funny as fuck.
That's a good joke, too.
joe rogan
Have people ever had sex?
Has anybody had sex in space?
lil duval
Come on, man.
joe rogan
But I want to know if it's been documented.
lil duval
They ain't going to say it, but I... Come on.
joe rogan
People write books.
lil duval
Wouldn't you?
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
You'd be up there.
You'd be like, what you trying to do?
You want to be the first motherfuckers out of space?
Man, I definitely would.
Shit.
joe rogan
You kind of have to.
No officially?
jamie vernon
Not officially yet.
joe rogan
Nothing officially?
jamie vernon
Correct.
joe rogan
But maybe someone has?
jamie vernon
I mean...
joe rogan
Maybe they're Russians.
jamie vernon
They're probably the first.
We're not the only ones that go to space now.
joe rogan
Russians probably drinking vodka and bone, and they probably have orgies up there.
lil duval
Man, I'm telling you, man.
joe rogan
Disco music.
lil duval
They're in the EDM. Man, they've been fucking on the moon and everything.
I'm telling you, it's not all on the moon.
joe rogan
Can you imagine you put one of those black lights?
lil duval
Black lights on it.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
What the fuck happened before we got here?
lil duval
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Do you think we've ever been visited by aliens?
Yeah.
lil duval
I think aliens walk amongst us now.
They come in here, come in there, see how stupid we are and go back and tell their stories and shit.
joe rogan
You think so?
lil duval
I mean, I can only see why.
I mean, if you thought...
There's no way we're the only people in this whole universe.
There's no way this only happened one time in this one part.
So it's got to be somewhere else, and I'm pretty sure they're way ahead as far as technology and...
What's the other word?
joe rogan
Progress, innovation.
lil duval
Yeah, all that.
Way far.
So they got to know.
They gotta be, they gotta look at this as stupid.
joe rogan
It only makes sense.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
If we could stay alive for a few thousand years, longer than we are now, I mean, imagine how much technology we would have by then.
And who knows what they've done, you know, whether, I mean, they might, they might have...
They might have created a technology based entirely on their atmosphere and their planet.
It might be just a different way of propulsion, a different way of organisms, a different way of everything.
There's so many possibilities in the universe.
lil duval
There could be some drips.
That's the power.
Drips.
Those are humans.
joe rogan
I read something somewhere about the possibility of there being living creatures in other parts of the universe that are made out of light.
lil duval
That's what I mean.
joe rogan
They're trying to theorize.
What are the parameters for something being alive given all the different possible environments in the universe?
All we know about life is what life we've ever discovered on Earth.
Maybe life can exist in bizarre, crazy environments, just a different kind of life.
lil duval
Like Cocoon?
joe rogan
No, it's like a different kind of life.
lil duval
I mean, like that movie Cocoon.
joe rogan
Cocoon's like old people and then they got young.
lil duval
Yeah, but the thing was, it came in that little cocoon In a spirit like a light.
It came like a light.
joe rogan
I don't remember that enough.
Cocoon.
I do remember it though.
I remember it was old people and they'd turn young and start fucking.
lil duval
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That was a big part of it, right?
lil duval
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but when you look at it from a...
joe rogan
But if there is like other kinds of life forms out there, I mean, because it's just like a light.
lil duval
It's like a light.
joe rogan
What is this?
unidentified
Cocoon.
joe rogan
Oh, they're all light.
lil duval
Yeah, that's why I said it's a light.
Whoa.
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
I forgot about this.
lil duval
Man, if we thought about it, they thought about this a long time ago, man.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Cocoon is way ahead of its time.
lil duval
Yeah.
Man, nah, they was just on shrooms back then.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
That's what you see when you're high as fuck.
lil duval
Come on, I'm telling you.
That's what I'm telling you.
We gotta watch that again.
joe rogan
The ice is melting.
That thing.
Give me that photo.
Give me that photo.
lil duval
Man, Charlemagne just made me realize.
joe rogan
The earth is getting too warm.
unidentified
Sexual diseases are ravaging your population.
joe rogan
You have to stop.
You have to slow down.
You're headed to the edge of the cliff.
Humanity is in great danger.
You're pulling all the fish out of the ocean.
unidentified
You're heating up the sky and filling it with particulates.
joe rogan
The very air you breathe.
There's not much time left.
lil duval
Now sit the boy with it.
Man, I'm telling you.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
Fuck that.
Whatever that thing is.
I don't want it in me.
lil duval
In you?
unidentified
That's the light.
joe rogan
It takes over your skin, doesn't it?
lil duval
But that's what I'm saying.
That movie there was like 30 years...
Wasn't that like 30 years ago?
joe rogan
Long time ago.
lil duval
So if that was 30 years ago, that means they've been new.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
About what we just...
Putting two and two together.
joe rogan
I think the light thing was just...
A physicist was speculating about the possibility of different forms.
lil duval
Well, he was right.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
Whatever it was.
unidentified
For sure.
lil duval
He was right like a motherfucker.
So, just think.
That might be like what you said that theory was with the light.
We might just be little lights of...
joe rogan
Also, how hard would it be for aliens to make fake people to move amongst us?
They could travel here from other planets.
Why can't they make fake people that can wander around?
lil duval
They are!
Shit.
joe rogan
How many people do you think you know that are aliens?
lil duval
Donald Trump?
He's gotta be an alien.
He don't give no fucks about humanity down here.
He don't give no fucks.
joe rogan
Maybe he just knows the spaceships are coming.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you were president and they told you spaceships are coming, what the fuck do you tell people?
Hey, it's over.
lil duval
Nah, you get a droid like you and you be on that spaceship.
Let people do what they do and piss them off, let them get mad at each other and kill each other by being mad.
joe rogan
I think if aliens did show their face, if there was like a real bonafide alien invasion or at least alien landing, it would be real similar to how we change in terms of the way we look at ourselves and humanity, real similar to a natural disaster.
You would be humbled.
We would all be like, oh shit.
Like if a real spaceship landed and real aliens were on board the spaceship.
lil duval
I don't know.
We'll still think the government.
Motherfuckers will swear the government doing something.
joe rogan
That's true.
That's true too.
Some people.
lil duval
You're giving humans way too much credit.
We stupid for the most part.
As a whole.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Some people would definitely think it was fake.
lil duval
They'll swear it was fake.
joe rogan
It would be real hard to convince someone that it wasn't fake.
lil duval
Man, people...
God could come down here and say, hey, it's me, it's God.
We wouldn't believe it.
We wouldn't believe it.
We don't believe nothing that we ain't really seen before.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That's just how humans are.
We stupid.
joe rogan
Well, that's where the whole flat earth thing comes from, right?
lil duval
Right.
joe rogan
I've never seen it.
lil duval
Yeah, I ain't never seen it.
And you know what's so stupid about that?
It's like, if you really felt like that, why don't you just get in the boat and go to the inn?
unidentified
Okay.
lil duval
Like, wouldn't that make sense?
Like, you would be the Christopher Columbus of this shit if you want to be so sure and tell everybody they wrong, get your ass in a boat and go to the end!
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
If you really feel that motherfucking smart, it's just stupid.
Like, it's the dumbest shit ever.
joe rogan
Well, it's weird, too, because...
They dismiss all of the evidence that the earth is round, but yet they show no evidence that the earth is flat.
lil duval
That's why I said, so prove me, whoever listened to this, get in the boat and just ride.
Ride, ride, ride.
Ride.
Until you get to the end.
And when you get to the end, take a picture.
And put it on Instagram and send it to me.
joe rogan
But the thing is, there's enough people out there in the world.
If you say that, there's someone like, you don't understand.
You've never done flat earth research.
There are those photographs.
They have been definitely proven.
lil duval
Do a video live.
Do it live.
Do it live.
You do it live so we can know for facts.
And I'm going to be up at Instagram headquarters so I can make sure this is really VIA at the edge.
joe rogan
There's an ice wall.
Very tough to get through.
lil duval
Whatever's there, go there.
Go to the ice wall.
joe rogan
Just give me one picture.
Send me one good picture of what it looks like.
Thanks.
lil duval
That's all we're asking.
Do that.
joe rogan
But you see, if you go further with this, they think that stars are fake.
They do.
They think that the sun is way closer than we've been told.
lil duval
How do they explain the sun actually going from sun up to sun down curving like that?
How do they explain that?
joe rogan
There's a very logical explanation.
You just don't understand the science.
lil duval
Explain that bullshit, flat-ass science.
It's stupid, man.
joe rogan
There's going to be people who tell you that something's not real no matter what it is.
It doesn't matter if it's people, have water in their bodies.
There's going to be a guy out there.
Well, actually, there's no water in human bodies.
The water that you drink immediately evaporates through the surface of your skin at an incredible pace.
It's the reason why you're so warm.
You're at 96.5 degrees.
Instantaneously, the mist starts forming and you disappear.
You don't actually drink water.
There's someone out there that'll tell you that.
There's someone out there that'll tell you that human beings can live off of air.
There's dudes that think that their guru lives off air and he hasn't had food or water for years.
There's people that are just dumb, man.
lil duval
That's because we're bored.
When you're bored, you start thinking the stupid shit and thinking you know what you're talking about because you done did it too.
joe rogan
And poor genetics.
And they might be on their first couple of rides.
It must be the first couple of times around as a person.
lil duval
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
They on their first ride.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
lil duval
See, we on our fourth one.
They still retarded.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think you've been on a hundred at least.
lil duval
A hundred?
joe rogan
Yeah, you've been on a lot of rides.
lil duval
If I've been on 100, you had to be on the same amount or even more than me.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think we've all been on this a bunch of times.
And I think if that's real, I mean, that would be a weird way of looking at things.
lil duval
But see, you had to be a little more up because you're white.
So you had to be a little more up.
So you might have been like, if I'm 100, I'm going to give you one up because in this generation in America, y'all got one up on us right now.
But wait till we come up.
Yeah.
We on y'all ass.
We on y'all ass.
But we ain't gonna do y'all like that.
I ain't.
Not if I can help it.
That's why I want to instill the humanity in before the money and all that.
Take over all the humanity.
joe rogan
We got to be careful of anything that separates people.
lil duval
We definitely do.
joe rogan
Any unnecessary thing that doesn't really mean anything that separates people.
lil duval
You know what I do for real?
And the people always ask me about the trip.
I don't know why.
That's one of the reasons why I don't use colored emojis.
All my emojis I use be yellow for the most part.
Unless it's a joke I'm trying to do.
Because I feel like that's still pushing the separation.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like to me, I don't feel like there's no reason.
The yellow is, and then you're like, why you ain't using this?
I'm using yellow.
I ain't using white or black.
I ain't using nothing.
I'm using yellow.
Nothing yellow.
joe rogan
Fake people.
lil duval
Yeah, it's yellow.
joe rogan
Big fake circle, smiling.
lil duval
It's still giving the same exact thing.
It's just yellow.
joe rogan
Yes, it's just laughter.
lil duval
Yeah, it's laughter.
joe rogan
It's a smiley face crying and laughing.
lil duval
Yeah, it don't have to be a black laughter.
Unless I'm telling a joke or something and I'm like, black man don't cheat.
That's, alright, I need the black fist.
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Jamie had a good point once about emojis, that they're like the new hieroglyphics.
unidentified
Yep, they are.
joe rogan
What if language eventually becomes a series of emojis?
lil duval
That's all it is.
We ain't got to talk no more.
joe rogan
Totally possible.
lil duval
We don't really have to talk.
Like, we on our phones, we can text and all that stuff there.
You can send feelings.
You can push, like, little things and then give a feeling.
We don't have to use none of that shit.
We barely use any of them now.
We barely use our arms, all this shit.
We're going to be like this pretty soon.
joe rogan
It would be hard to convey, like, hey, did you go to the movie at 7 o'clock or 8?
It would be hard to convey things like that through just emojis.
jamie vernon
Just clock emojis.
lil duval
Yes, you can.
joe rogan
You can change the...
But then you'd say, you'd have to go movie, and then the at sign, and then 7 o'clock, and then you would go question mark, 8 o'clock, question mark?
I guess you could right there.
jamie vernon
You could just do movie, 7, 8, question.
joe rogan
Yeah, but 7-8 is weird.
7?
8?
That's two possibilities.
7?
8?
That's how you'd say it to someone.
You wouldn't say 7-8.
They'd be like, what the fuck are you saying?
78?
What are you saying?
See what I'm saying?
jamie vernon
I know what you're saying, but it would be a clock.
It wouldn't be a number seven.
lil duval
I ain't lost by the second.
jamie vernon
I'm just saying, I know.
lil duval
I was like, man.
unidentified
My friend, whoever I'm communicating with, I was really about to be over there.
lil duval
I don't know what this motherfucker said.
joe rogan
Imagine if they came up with a language that was all emojis that kids just learned really early on.
lil duval
It's like that now.
My daughter, when she talks to me, is mostly in emojis.
unidentified
Oh.
lil duval
Even when we put that FaceTime face, she liked to put that on.
They do that now.
What's that game she be playing?
Roadblocks?
joe rogan
Yes.
They all play Roadblocks.
lil duval
They don't even talk to each other.
I don't know what they be doing in there, but ain't no voices.
joe rogan
They're learning how to connect with machines.
lil duval
They're learning how to connect through energy and feelings and whatever you draw or whatever your creativity.
We're evolving out of our human bodies, slowly but surely.
joe rogan
I couldn't agree more.
It's happening, whether people recognize it or not, and it's going to be real weird when it takes hold.
I don't know what form it's going to be.
It's going to be a wearable device, I think.
lil duval
I'm willing to go with it.
I didn't think we would be right where we are now, so shit, I'm cool with it.
You just got to go with it.
That's how you enjoy it.
Man, if you ain't laughing at life, you're missing the whole point of this shit.
This shit fun.
This shit funny as hell, just watching how stupid this shit evolve.
joe rogan
It is fun.
It's weird.
It's a weird time.
It's a great time.
It's not a great time for everybody right now listening to this.
lil duval
It's like a spoof.
It's a spoof.
It's like everything that was in Living Color or everything a comedian said 20 years ago that we done said, it's like really life now.
It's like, this shit is really crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
So it's like, just laugh at this shit.
Shit funny as a motherfucker.
joe rogan
It's very strange.
lil duval
Yeah.
It ain't strange, it's funny.
joe rogan
It's funny too.
unidentified
It's funny!
lil duval
Strange is funny.
unidentified
And I like it.
joe rogan
Strange.
lil duval
Just the way she is.
joe rogan
What's in the little container?
What kind of joints are those?
lil duval
These are the ones that burn the shit.
Cookies.
joe rogan
Cookies?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that from the stash?
Yeah, those are good.
Those are speed weed.
lil duval
Speed weed?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
It's a must.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
What happened?
lil duval
I just hit my knee on the goddamn...
joe rogan
Oh, the metal thing?
lil duval
Yeah, I'm hot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
You just spilled that?
I just hit my knee.
joe rogan
This table's sturdy as fuck.
lil duval
And that bitch ain't moved.
This goddamn bridge material.
joe rogan
It's all made with steel girders.
lil duval
This is what they made the Matthew Bridge off in Jacksonville.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's no movement to this table.
lil duval
Oh, man, y'all hood and shit.
joe rogan
Y'all got roaches in there?
lil duval
No, I'm talking about y'all got roach traps out this bitch.
joe rogan
Oh, we do.
We get roaches.
lil duval
This is the hood.
We're in the trap.
joe rogan
Sometimes we find them dead in the bathroom.
Like, what in the fuck?
Big ones, too.
You can't get rid of roaches.
Can't get rid of rats.
lil duval
I ain't no roaches came from...
I ain't even no Calahad roaches.
I thought that was a South thing.
joe rogan
No, they are roaches.
They're a different kind of roach, though.
They're like chill California roaches.
lil duval
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not fast.
lil duval
You know, them roaches, like, even, I've watched in my time of living, like, even, like, roaches evolve and do certain things, or flies be slower.
I've seen in certain places they're quicker now.
It's just, you see even insects evolve.
Everything evolves.
joe rogan
Somebody was telling me about this.
I think my wife told me this.
There's different kinds of roaches.
There's an outside roach and an inside roach.
There's roaches that live more in fields, and they're slower and less reactive.
And then you've got roaches, most likely, that probably evolved in cities.
You've got to imagine, if people are laying out roastraps and people are stomping you every time they see you, you get faster.
You get faster.
Those roaches in the East Coast, like a New York City roach, that's a fast roach.
lil duval
A New York City rat.
joe rogan
Ooh, those are terrifying.
lil duval
Them my size.
joe rogan
Those are terrifying.
You ever see that Netflix documentary on rats?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
If you ever want to freak out, there's a great documentary on Netflix just called Rats.
And they take these rats and they test them for diseases and they fucking all have something.
They have giant parasites and this one had a bot fly in its cheek.
I mean, enormous.
Like a...
A fourth?
How big?
A third of his head?
How big?
lil duval
What did they eat?
joe rogan
It was like on the side of his neck, right?
That's where it was?
It was in his neck.
Bro, it was nasty.
And then they were just saying, like, look, there's as many of these fucking things as there are people.
lil duval
And did they get rid of them?
joe rogan
No.
lil duval
They still down here?
joe rogan
What, that rat?
lil duval
I mean, like rats like that.
joe rogan
Well, there's definitely rats like that, yeah.
lil duval
I thought they...
joe rogan
No, man, they haven't done shit to get rid of rats.
They can't.
But they found them all over the country.
lil duval
They can't if that hurricane hit that motherfucking nature.
Nature can get rid of that bitch.
jamie vernon
I just read this the other day that 1% of the rats in LA are going to have some bubonic plague disease.
joe rogan
Of course.
jamie vernon
I think it's very soon or if they don't already have it, it's 1%.
joe rogan
Rats eat shit, okay?
They eat dog shit.
Famously.
lil duval
They eat our shit.
joe rogan
They eat animal shit and they eat our shit.
So if you're a junkie and you're just shooting heroin into your asshole and then you take shits and these rats eat this shit, some homeless people have turned up with, what was it?
Typhoid?
Typhus?
jamie vernon
Wasn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like a medieval disease, man.
lil duval
That's why you need to get closer to the country.
joe rogan
So rats get a hold of that.
Rats eat their shit.
They all get sick.
Everyone gets sick.
lil duval
That's why I say get closer to the country.
Away from that city shit.
Because, boy...
When it comes, it's going to go from there and spread.
But by the time it gets to you, you'll be going to grow your own shit.
joe rogan
I'm glad you brought that up because I want to find out what is the definition between city girl and country girl.
The thing you were doing back and forth on your Instagram all the time.
lil duval
City boys and hot girls.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
City boys and hot girls.
Well, that was something like, well, city boys, that's always been like a Florida thing from Tampa.
That's actually from Tampa, a song that's from Tampa called City Boy by Tom G. And it's always been like a little vibe.
And like we jookin' and whoopin' Florida.
And it's just a song I wanted to bring back for everybody in Florida.
And I did it at the Hip Hop Awards and everything.
So it was really just like a culture thing.
That's just like a vibe we do.
We jookin' vibe and everything down there.
And it was good for the culture in Florida.
Like it was real big for Florida.
Just that song.
joe rogan
Really?
lil duval
Yeah, it was.
joe rogan
Yeah, I always wondered what it was.
lil duval
Was it City Boy?
City Boy.
It's a dance.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
lil duval
It's a dance.
Yeah, the City Boy's a dance.
City Boy with it.
City Boy with it.
Yeah, it's a dance.
It was dope, too, though, because when I did the Hip Hop Awards, everybody from Florida was tuned into that bitch because it was representing everybody in Florida, you know?
That was a real dope moment for the culture.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, Florida can use some of that, right?
Florida always takes jokes.
People, including me, people always shit on Florida.
lil duval
I shit on it too, but we are crazy, but there's a lot of good things about us too, and that's the good thing.
Through all that bullshit, we know how to have a good time, and that's what our music shows, the good times and the vibes that we do.
A lot of the vibes come from us because, shit, that's all we do is party down there.
And that comes from the Caribbeans too.
joe rogan
Well, the south of Florida might as well be another country.
I mean, south of Florida might as well be some Latin American country.
lil duval
Yeah, Latin.
joe rogan
Some Latin American country that's protected by the Constitution.
Yeah, it might as well be like Puerto Rico.
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, Puerto Rico's kind of America, right?
Not quite.
lil duval
Not quite.
joe rogan
But kind of.
lil duval
They say you don't make it to America to, like, where's Paul?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what Donald Trump's border.
That's what it is.
That's the border of South-South North America.
That's what they should call it.
They should call it Florida's a new country.
It's called South-South North America.
lil duval
Call that motherfucker.
Oh, hold up.
Call that bitch.
South.
South USA. Yeah.
joe rogan
South USA. But the rest of the South would be pissed.
But if you called it South South North America, it's so stupid.
The rest of the country would be like, yeah, you can have that.
lil duval
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you try to call it South of America.
lil duval
They want to call it what?
joe rogan
North America South.
No.
lil duval
Run with that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Everybody in Tennessee and, you know, the real South would be like, fuck you, man.
You can't have that.
You can't have the South.
But South, South, North America, keep that.
Florida.
Imagine if people did, I mean, it would be crazy if someone did decide to branch off.
Like if Texas was like, enough!
We're done.
We got it in our constitution.
lil duval
Honestly, and you go to Montana and all that, they don't really go by these laws.
They do what they want.
You get shot out there, you shot in North Dakota or South Dakota.
joe rogan
Well, for the longest time, Montana wouldn't make a speeding limit.
They're like, no.
lil duval
I don't blame them.
It ain't that much to do out there motherfucking Norway.
Let them do what they do.
There's a lot of places like that in the country.
They just do what they do.
joe rogan
But it's also Montana, the people that live there value freedom.
It's very important.
lil duval
That is freedom.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is freedom.
They value freedom.
lil duval
And the rest of America don't fuck.
I mean, they don't fuck with them.
America let them do what they do.
joe rogan
There's just not that many people.
What's up, Jamie?
jamie vernon
The speed limit sign just says reasonable and prudent.
I don't know.
Is that how long it is?
joe rogan
Reasonable and prudent.
Truck, 65. Night, all vehicle, 65. That's interesting.
Is that in Montana?
lil duval
Is that now or is that real?
jamie vernon
I just typed in Montana speed limit.
joe rogan
It said they're raising the limit again.
Reasonable and prudent.
lil duval
What year is that?
What year is that?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, see, if you have a Corvette...
And you're going 95 miles an hour, that's kind of reasonable and prudent if there's no one on the road.
If you know how to drive, and you got a car that handles really well and drives really fast, right?
lil duval
Most people in the country know how to drive.
They do it all the time.
They race.
That's why all the races be in the country.
joe rogan
In the country country, right?
lil duval
Yeah, so they know how to race.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That's what they do.
That's what you do as a teenager.
You learn.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're in Montana.
lil duval
I'm pretty sure they out there race.
They probably living their best life out there for real.
joe rogan
It's a good place to live if you could take the winter.
lil duval
I heard, what was the place in, was it South Dakota?
Where's the mining at?
joe rogan
They have mining in South Dakota, I think.
lil duval
They say that's where strippers make the most money at.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
lil duval
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, where did I read this crazy story about the mine life, about what it's like there?
lil duval
Because there's a lot of money.
joe rogan
There's these crazy towns, right?
jamie vernon
Nice.
joe rogan
Yes, that's what it was.
Vice had a documentary on it.
And it was these crazy towns that pop up right next to these mines.
Because all these dudes work in these mines, and they make money, and they need somewhere to blow it off.
And so it develops this sort of community around mines, mining towns.
And it's really like what it was in the Old West.
When you think about those Old Westy towns with a saloon and fucking shoot-'em-ups in the street, what was that?
lil duval
Wild Wild West.
joe rogan
That's the same thing.
It's miners and thieves.
lil duval
Right.
joe rogan
It's people mining gold, and people who are thieves, and people bringing in cattle to feed the miners, and people feeding ranches, all that shit.
I mean, it's kind of what happens whenever you get this thing that people are trying to, a resource, people are trying to pull out of the ground, and then you build some sort of ramshackle civilization around it.
lil duval
Is there still stuff?
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
Is there still stuff that mining...
joe rogan
Yeah, what are they mining?
What are they mining in?
I think they're mining some...
I don't remember what it was.
The Vice one?
jamie vernon
Like fracking oil, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, fracking?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
See, those jobs are dangerous.
You know, like any kind of mining job, no matter what you're mining.
I mean, you're dealing with heavy equipment and shit.
It's hard to get people to do those jobs.
lil duval
Shit, it's hard to get people to do that job.
What's that job where they go get crabs?
joe rogan
Oh, that's a hard job.
lil duval
Man, you watch that shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
I'll be watching that shit, man.
joe rogan
Deadliest catch.
lil duval
Yeah.
They be getting them king crabs up there in Alaska.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
That's not worth it.
Those guys go over there.
lil duval
It might do be.
I mean...
joe rogan
Maybe.
lil duval
Shit, they get, like, getting them tunas.
Like, I think they be going for, like, $250 for the good tunas.
So it might be...
joe rogan
What's up, Dan?
lil duval
That's what your way of life is.
jamie vernon
You get a lot of gold out of there, apparently, still.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
The Humsteak Mine is what it's called.
joe rogan
In South Dakota?
jamie vernon
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Wow.
So there's all kinds of different mining going on down there.
jamie vernon
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this one article that we read is just about this one town where everything got real crazy.
Because you just got a bunch of men, you know?
Men making a lot of money, but they don't have anything to do.
And they start getting fucked up.
lil duval
That sounds like America in a few years.
joe rogan
Well, that's what America used to be, right?
I mean, that's when the miners came across the country.
That's exactly what happened.
Every fucking Old West movie is the same thing, right?
It's all like, there's a saloon.
People are getting fucked up.
Someone gets out of line.
Someone gets shot.
People are gunfights in the street.
It's always that shit.
lil duval
That's what it is now.
Like, that's what is kind of in, I think, in our culture now.
Like, young people getting money now.
So they ain't got nothing else to do.
Like, that's why they just fucking it up.
It's like, it's nothing to do.
It's like, like, where we at now is probably like where...
I guess in the 80s where whites was, when they started getting money with the Wall Street and all that shit there, they was spending it like a motherfucker.
So now it's new to us.
So it's like, shit, we don't know what to do with this.
We're just fucking it up.
Getting in stupid beefs and doing...
Ain't nothing else to do.
Like, what else do you do?
Even if you do everything, all right, let me put my mom in this, put my mom in...
And that's going to happen in society.
Like, if technology take over where ain't no jobs...
They're going to have to get something and you're going to be living off a stipend or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're thinking universal basic income.
lil duval
Yeah, but then what's going to do is you ain't going to have nothing to do.
That's the hardest thing to do in life.
Once you've got financial freedom, now it's time to live.
That's where people go crazy.
They don't know how to just live.
joe rogan
That's true.
lil duval
Because it ain't nothing to do.
joe rogan
You just got to find hobbies.
lil duval
I do.
I mean, I understand and I don't put that much emphasis on big things to entertain me.
joe rogan
Okay.
lil duval
You know, so I keep it simple.
Like, if I could be entertained by just sitting here chilling, shit, anything else is a bonus.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's how I keep the mindset of that.
I just lost my train of thought.
joe rogan
This is why marijuana is illegal, ladies and gentlemen.
You can't have this in a board meeting.
This kind of thinking.
This is where all my best thoughts come out of.
So how long are you in town for?
lil duval
I'm leaving tonight.
I just can't even fuck with you, mate.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
I'm honored.
Thank you.
lil duval
No problem, man.
I've been wanting to do this, man.
Especially just, I see how I've brought a lot of people together in one.
It's bigger than us.
joe rogan
I always feel like it's bigger than me.
I always feel like it's alive.
And I just come in to sort of hit the switch.
And the podcast sort of takes itself.
I just try to do my very best to get out of my own way.
Sometimes I achieve it.
Sometimes.
lil duval
But you happy though?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun, man.
It's fun.
lil duval
You're talking about life as a whole.
joe rogan
Yeah.
lil duval
That's dope.
joe rogan
Life is fascinating.
I mean, I have just incredible fortune and great luck and I do things that I enjoy doing.
That's the number one key.
If you can find a way to do something that you actually enjoy.
It's a different kind of life.
lil duval
You know who else good at that?
Snoop.
joe rogan
Oh, of course.
unidentified
Yeah.
lil duval
He lives his best life for real, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he's himself.
lil duval
He taught me how to live my best life because I was always living my best life but on my own shit.
But in the industry, he taught me how to enjoy it.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Did you ever see Snoop's bar?
lil duval
Snoop's who?
joe rogan
Spar.
Snoop.
You ever see him spar?
lil duval
No.
joe rogan
Dude, Snoop trains at a real MMA gym.
No bullshit.
And he was sparring with Daniel Serafian.
Daniel Serafian is this UFC fighter who's built like a fucking brick shithouse.
He's a tank.
He's a legit fighter.
Very dangerous guy.
And he's not trying to hurt Snoop.
lil duval
Let me call Snoop.
joe rogan
He's keeping his hands up and moving.
But dude, I'm telling you, Snoop can throw some hands.
He's got good hand technique.
lil duval
He'll be keeping humble with his hands.
joe rogan
You can see the video.
We'll show it to you.
Look, here it is.
lil duval
Look, look, look.
joe rogan
It's the video.
Look, that dude with the yellow on his gloves, that's Daniel Serafian.
That guy is a professional fighter.
Really dangerous guy.
And Snoop's in there sparring with the guy.
Look at this.
lil duval
Is dude playing with Snoop though?
joe rogan
I mean, he's not trying to hurt him.
He's just being defensive.
But Snoop is swinging at a world-class fighter.
I mean, Seraphion's obviously not letting him hit him.
He knows what's coming and he moves out of the way.
But the fact that Snoop is getting in there with a guy like him, that's impressive shit.
And he looks good, man.
lil duval
Look at OG. He looks good.
That's dope, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Staying healthy.
lil duval
No, but that's one motherfucker.
He does what he want to do when he want to do it.
He moves in the same energy.
He got that real energy.
It's really that genuine.
joe rogan
Well, that's why he's still here.
lil duval
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
That's why he's still relevant after all these years.
People still love him.
lil duval
Yeah.
He got that spirit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But listen, man.
We just did three hours.
lil duval
What more?
joe rogan
Let's wrap this thing up.
lil duval
My honor.
Thank y'all.
joe rogan
Thank you, sir.
Thanks for being here, man.
I really, really appreciate it.
It was great.
lil duval
It was a lot of fun.
joe rogan
Little Duvall, ladies and gentlemen.
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Do you use Facebook?
You fuck with Facebook?
lil duval
Yeah, Instagram.
Go to the Facebook that gets verified.
I don't know.
I mean, and then Instagram, Twitter.
It's all Little Duvall.
YouTube.
My YouTube, Vivo.
Go get my Christmas song.
Go download my Christmas song called Christmas Trees.
Thank y'all.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody.
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