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Nov. 14, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1384 - Ari Shaffir
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ari shaffir
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ari shaffir
Well, that one never got repeated in podcast history.
joe rogan
Well, we fucked that up.
We thought we were recording.
We were saying how Bert is the only person we know who's both funny and a great promoter.
Like, usually you get one or the other.
You get someone who's really funny, but we were talking about Bert's...
We thought all this was being recorded.
ari shaffir
Oh, it would have been so much better if they got that natural thing.
jamie vernon
The audio is being recorded all the time.
Just that video.
So I can leave that in the mp3.
Everybody can download that beginning.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
ari shaffir
Give us one of those cartoonists to make the video.
joe rogan
Well, for everybody, the audio, we're going to stop now.
We're going to double repeat ourselves.
So a bunch of people.
Bert used to have a show called Hurt Bert.
And that one disturbed me the most.
ari shaffir
I don't remember this one at all.
joe rogan
Bert, he would do a bunch of stupid shit and get injured.
ari shaffir
But he's really getting hurt.
joe rogan
He's doing jujitsu with some kid.
And some red belt kid who's with Hori and Gracie.
ari shaffir
When he was that young, he really reminds me of that frat guy that he was.
I can't really see it now, but this is him like four years removed from that.
joe rogan
This guy keeps armbarring him.
He doesn't know what to do here.
ari shaffir
Kid is 108 pounds.
joe rogan
I think part of it, he's also going along with it, enjoying...
ari shaffir
He's got to take the offensive.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
This kid will never see it.
He's played duck twice, or possum twice.
joe rogan
How about that video that I showed you that Bridget Phetasy showed me?
It's a video of this guy who's on a school bus...
It starts with a bus driver throwing a little kid off the school bus, screaming at him, and then a bunch of people are like, what the fuck are you doing, man?
unidentified
You can't do that.
ari shaffir
They chase him back onto the bus.
joe rogan
The bus driver gets back on the bus, and then they check the little kid.
ari shaffir
Does not feel remorseful.
joe rogan
Are you okay?
And they realize this little kid with a lunchbox and everything is actually a grown midget.
And he's pretending that he's a little kid hanging out with these little kids.
And the bus driver found it.
ari shaffir
Dude, the look in everybody's face.
When they say, wait, he's not a kid?
And they're all like, oh, I was mad.
unidentified
Now I'm confused.
joe rogan
So he's got the lunchbox.
He throws out his lunchbox and he grabs him.
ari shaffir
He throws him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Because he's got a little kid's backpack.
People are ready to beat his ass.
ari shaffir
Beat the bus driver's ass.
They saw him chuck off a little kid.
That's a five-year-old's body.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
People ready to fuck him up.
ari shaffir
Should call the cops.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then they get to him to see, hey, are you okay?
Now watch this.
I'm not a kid.
That's a grown-ass man.
So that dude was pretending to be...
ari shaffir
Now everybody's confused.
Look how confused they all are.
Like, I was mad before.
I don't know what to think now.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
ari shaffir
They look like they just saw David Blaine.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Why did we bring that up?
Why were we talking about that?
ari shaffir
That's a great question.
joe rogan
That has nothing to do with Burt, though.
ari shaffir
Something to do with Burt, but I don't know what that was.
joe rogan
What does it have to do with Bert?
No, no, no, no.
ari shaffir
The kid was beating up Bert in jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
I don't remember.
ari shaffir
Welcome to November!
joe rogan
Yeah, this is not sober November.
November, November.
I definitely don't remember what the fuck we were talking about.
Dude, you're on an iPhone now.
Tell me what that's been like.
ari shaffir
Okay, it's been pretty interesting.
So I've set myself in October to see if I can fucking do it again.
You told me about that app that's on the thing.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Limits your screen time.
ari shaffir
Limits your screen time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You have that for your kids.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's what I was looking for like five, six years ago.
There was nothing.
It would just give you alarms.
And you could snooze it.
unidentified
Not good enough.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, it's sort of like, remember when we had to do those 15 yoga classes?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
You had to do it.
So because you had to do it, you just fucking knew you were going to do it.
The wishy-washiness was gone.
ari shaffir
Of what?
joe rogan
The wishy-washiness.
I don't have to do this.
I could back off.
I'm kind of tired anyway.
Let me take the day off.
All that shit was gone.
You couldn't do that.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's sort of the same thing with that app.
Because you could always say, I'm not going to use my phone much.
unidentified
Fuck that.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
ari shaffir
Dude, I'm an observer of the other people on their phones.
Everyone who says that is on all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so easy to be on.
With me, I found myself just reading Google News stories for no reason.
And a lot of them aren't even interesting.
It's like, oh, this car sold for this much money.
ari shaffir
And you're just wasting time.
joe rogan
Wasting time.
ari shaffir
Time you're going to be bored.
joe rogan
I'm lying to myself because I'm always thinking that I'm going to, oh, but there's material in this.
I'm going to find a story that's really funny.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But those kind of you find out anyway.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
People, they force...
Really good ones, like that guy getting thrown off the bus.
ari shaffir
That one's going to get to you.
The way that the horse thing would have got to you years before the internet.
joe rogan
Yes, the horse one got to us.
Well, the internet was around, but it was years before social media.
ari shaffir
What was your joke?
I win.
You've done that on special, right?
joe rogan
No, no.
That was never in a special.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why?
Comedy Central said it was too rough.
ari shaffir
It's pretty rough, but I wouldn't say too.
joe rogan
Maybe I can revive it.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I should probably revive it.
ari shaffir
The early days of the internet were like this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it was a true story too.
I did have a friend of mine that I go back and forth with.
He was one of those dudes that just knows everything that's fucked up.
He can find all the videos.
The Bud Dwyer video.
He was one of those guys.
And he would send me this video.
It's like, batter's up.
And I would like, batter up?
What the fuck is this?
I open up the email and it's that porn star with a baseball bat up her ass.
ari shaffir
Belladonna?
joe rogan
Yes.
It was her.
And I was like, Jesus Christ.
And then, you know, we would go back and forth.
I would send him something fucked up, he would send me something fucked up.
ari shaffir
The baseball bat was surprising.
joe rogan
Battered nowhere, batter up!
I was like, what is this?
I'm like, oh my god, how?
How?
That poor girl's asshole must be a wreck.
ari shaffir
Dude, interesting fact about Belladonna, that first storytelling show we ever did at the Improv, 12 people were there, and she was one of them.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
She used to go to the comedy store.
ari shaffir
Yeah, she was cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was crazy.
joe rogan
They offered me some gaping porn.
They had some DVDs they were giving them away.
I'm like, I'm good, man, thanks.
The guy's like, why didn't you take it?
I was like, hey, man, it's not a disrespectful thing.
It's not my thing.
I'm not into your art.
ari shaffir
Also, I'm afraid I'm going to go down this line of her husband.
joe rogan
Gaping porn is the weirdest shit ever because people want to look inside people's bodies.
You want to look in the hole.
They want the hole to be gaping.
That's a style of porn.
Gaping.
ari shaffir
And why the drip-out?
You ever see the drip-out at the end?
Why is this still recording?
And they shake the close-up.
You know what I'm talking about.
They close up vagina and wait for the jizz to come out.
I agree with that face.
It's not for me.
I don't know why it's still on the video.
joe rogan
Some people like it.
People like weird shit, right?
People like feet.
They like everything.
ari shaffir
Someone likes everything.
joe rogan
What's really weird is that some things that some people would hate, other people love.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
With food, too, and movies and shit like that.
joe rogan
Like an intelligent, well-respected woman, I won't break up her name, was on stage talking about how she likes taking loads in the face.
Now, she might have been saying this as a joke, but it might have been true.
Some people just like...
ari shaffir
Love it.
joe rogan
Some girls like that, right?
That's why it's...
Or is it guys like it, and that's why it's a thing?
Or girls pretend they like it, so the guys do it.
But some girls would be like, fuck that, get that away from me.
Other people would love it.
That's what's weird about humans.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
There's so many people that are into such weird shit.
ari shaffir
I spit on a vagina once.
unidentified
Ew.
ari shaffir
Well, it's whatever.
And the girl, she didn't like it.
She was like, did you spit on my vagina?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes with that accent, it's even worse.
ari shaffir
She goes, well, I didn't like that.
I'm like, all right, well, that won't do it again.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
I don't know.
And she goes, all right.
joe rogan
But a guy would get mad if a girl spit on his dick?
I don't think so.
ari shaffir
No, they might be like, they just shift away.
joe rogan
Maybe if you were having a really hard time staying hard anyway, because she's intimidating you, and you're barely hanging in there, and then she spits on your dick, you're like, hey, what the hell?
You might lose your boner.
ari shaffir
What if it's like real...
Yeah.
A full gagger right away.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You're kissing and then...
unidentified
Jesus.
ari shaffir
...is the next step and you're like...
Whoa.
Slow down.
joe rogan
Slow the fuck down.
jamie vernon
Was this type of porn inevitable?
Or like...
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Like a question.
If Larry Flitt never did the Hustler stuff and never went through all the court cases would...
joe rogan
It's a human thing, man.
ari shaffir
It would have happened in a hundred years.
joe rogan
Yeah, those Larry Flint guys are important.
They help move the needle, for sure.
No doubt.
I mean, that guy took a bullet for the freedom of expression.
Whether you like porn or not, we've all jerked off to it.
And if you say you didn't, you're a hypocrite.
jamie vernon
I mean, no way.
ari shaffir
Just a liar.
joe rogan
Not listening.
jamie vernon
Where he, like, crossed the line that existed.
joe rogan
Yes, he certainly did.
But my point is, I think that there was a...
They had already done Deep Throat before Hustler, right?
It wasn't Deep Throat...
When was Deep Throat?
Deep Throat was a porn film that people went to see, like a regular film.
It was like a movie.
jamie vernon
Same time, wasn't it also a nickname, like a code name for someone?
joe rogan
Yes, but that's post.
That's during Watergate.
That was one of the insiders in Watergate, and their nickname was Deep Throat, but that was because the movie had already been out.
ari shaffir
They named one of the Nixon Watergate people after a porno?
joe rogan
Deep Throat was the person who was...
ari shaffir
Were they just having fun?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
The fucking...
Look, man, those CIA people or whoever the fuck was involved with all that stuff, FBI, a lot of them are bros.
ari shaffir
Yeah, do you think one guy's like, I caught a drug dealer.
joe rogan
They're like intelligent bros.
ari shaffir
And the next guy's like, oh, really?
Because I went to someone who's running for president and I broke into that fucking office, dude!
unidentified
Right, yeah.
ari shaffir
They're like, what?
joe rogan
I'm sure.
I'm sure there's something in that.
Some of that.
There's a lot of, I mean, they're like cops or like military people.
You know, they're like, a lot of them are just men, guys, guys, men.
They probably watch porn.
They probably know who Deep Throat is.
You know, if you're working for like one of the biggest police, I mean, it's essentially a police organization.
ari shaffir
None of them majored in English with a focus on Shakespeare.
joe rogan
It's FBI's law enforcement, right?
I mean, that's what it is.
ari shaffir
It's jocks.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're bros.
A lot of them are bros.
ari shaffir
Of course they're going to brag.
joe rogan
Not disrespecting at all.
unidentified
Deep throat.
joe rogan
But that's why they would call it deep throat.
ari shaffir
Nice nickname, bro.
joe rogan
If it's a group of women that are, you know, from University of Massachusetts Amherst.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they'll call it fucking yarning.
joe rogan
They're definitely not going to call it deep throat.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be contributing to the patriarchy.
ari shaffir
Manic Panic.
joe rogan
But that movie was in 72, so when did Hustler start?
jamie vernon
Hustler was around 75, 76. Are you a aficionado?
Do you want to grow a little of this?
ari shaffir
The first one that I had in my collection was...
jamie vernon
Kevin Smith, do you remember?
Larry Flint started it in Columbus, that first headquarters were in Ohio.
joe rogan
That's right.
Yeah, man.
I had to go to the Hustler office once to review porn.
There was an article that they were doing where you review porn.
It was so weird.
It was like the weirdest thing.
I forget is like early in the days of the internet, right?
Like more than 20 plus years ago.
ari shaffir
I mean like trying to figure anything out.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were just trying to figure things out and try things out.
ari shaffir
So you watched the porno over there?
joe rogan
I don't remember what it was.
I think I was reviewing magazines.
I was reviewing porn magazines.
I think that was what it was.
Or maybe they showed me a little of the porn or they showed me the magazine.
I don't remember what it was.
jamie vernon
Same time.
Hustler started the same year Nixon ended in 74. The first deep throat was 72. Yeah, so that's exactly where it came from.
ari shaffir
Didn't you and Stanhope and Stanhope's mom review boobs or something?
joe rogan
Yes.
Stanhope's mom reviewed porn on The Man Show.
ari shaffir
That was it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it was.
Stanhope's mom would watch porn and give these fucking hilarious reviews of it.
It was one of the best things we did.
His mom was really funny, too.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
She's like Hinchcliffe's mom.
You seen Hinchcliffe's mom do stand-up?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Dude.
ari shaffir
She did stand-up?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Hinchcliffe's mom did stand-up.
He wrote the bits for her and she did them.
She had cue cards.
unidentified
She did it.
joe rogan
It killed Tony.
Packed main room and fucking murdered.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, dude, she killed.
She got me with a zinger.
I forget what it was.
It was all shit that Tony wrote.
It was funny shit, man.
And she did it with authority.
She hit the punchlines.
He coached her.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It was great.
It was great.
She had never done anything like that before.
And here she murdered at her son's show.
And he brings her up as his mom.
There it is right now.
There's his mom.
Okay, that's...
Yeah, it is.
She's amazing.
I'm telling you, dude, she fucking murdered it.
ari shaffir
She's taller than him.
joe rogan
Dude, she...
unidentified
How dare you?
joe rogan
How dare you?
She was really good, man.
ari shaffir
Wow, that's cool.
joe rogan
I wouldn't play any of it because it's their stuff, but people can see it.
What's the video?
jamie vernon
Kill Tony, five-year anniversary, episode 273. So it was Dom Irera who's the best at those things.
ari shaffir
He's so quick.
joe rogan
He's the best.
No one's better than Dom at those roast shows, talking shit, or something like Kill Tony where a guy does one minute of terrible comedy and he gets to chime in.
He's just the master at dissecting people, ironically.
ari shaffir
Have you ever seen him do his open mic character?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Arrow?
Is it Arrow?
Razor?
joe rogan
What is it?
unidentified
I don't know.
ari shaffir
It's something like that.
Oh, he does it so good.
He's so nervous.
If you interrupt him, he has to back up and start from the scratch, from the beginning, like over and over again.
joe rogan
He's so good on Kill Tony.
He should be a regular.
He really should.
He should be on every episode.
He should be on every episode and then whoever the guest is on top of it.
He's just so good.
He's just so good at talking shit to people when they do terrible things and do it in a way where you can't even be mad at them.
What were you going to say?
jamie vernon
Were you watching last night's new episode of Kill Tony?
joe rogan
No, I didn't see it.
Why?
jamie vernon
You'll have to watch it when it comes out.
Ari was on yesterday.
joe rogan
Oh, was it good?
Yeah, it was great.
jamie vernon
He's got a standing ovation, I think.
I don't know.
unidentified
Thank you.
ari shaffir
That's what I do.
I get standing O's.
joe rogan
Wow, dude.
You're an animal.
ari shaffir
I just came out naked.
joe rogan
Oh, you came out naked.
ari shaffir
Just popped out from behind.
joe rogan
How does that work for YouTube?
Do they have to blur out your cock and balls?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
It's something they should deal with.
I'm just there for the live show.
joe rogan
It should be.
They should have a little blurry thing that can bounce around your cock.
Why doesn't YouTube put that in the tools?
ari shaffir
Honestly, a setting at this point on the YouTube.
If you see a cock, blur it out.
joe rogan
Did you see the new release that said something and maybe this is people freaking out for no reason.
Maybe it's not.
ari shaffir
I skipped over it.
joe rogan
People are freaking out about some new terms that they have where they can get rid of any channel that they don't think is commercially viable.
Is that the quote?
jamie vernon
They did update their terms of service, but I haven't looked into this.
I'm just going off of what I think.
I don't know that that's new in the terms.
I think that they might have always been able to do that.
Facebook can delete your thing.
I think Twitter can delete your account.
I think that's kind of in all of them.
joe rogan
So they always have the ability to tell you to fuck off.
ari shaffir
You can't delete your own account?
joe rogan
But they can delete yours.
ari shaffir
I mean, come on, dude.
They run the fucking world at this point.
unidentified
They run the world.
joe rogan
Well, Facebook...
ari shaffir
They're bigger than the government.
joe rogan
Facebook's giant.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're multinational.
They'll go anywhere.
They're bigger than the government.
joe rogan
They're giant.
You know what freaked me out?
I saw Zuckerberg on TV in China.
I think he was speaking Mandarin.
I was so impressed.
I was like, look at this fucking guy.
How smart is he?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he went to the same school AOC went to.
joe rogan
I mean, that's beside the point.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
What's he doing there?
joe rogan
A lot of people went to that school.
They can't do it.
ari shaffir
I know.
joe rogan
Speaking Mandarin, that's hard.
If you're learning that as an adult, holy shit.
And he does it on a talk show and people are laughing.
It's really funny, man.
So he's on this show and the guy's speaking to him.
I think it's Mandarin.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
And he understands it?
Not only does he understand it, he tells a story to the crowd and they're laughing.
So he told a joke.
He told a joke in Chinese.
ari shaffir
Did he know it already?
joe rogan
He knew how to talk in Chinese.
ari shaffir
From college?
joe rogan
He learned.
No, I think his wife is Chinese.
So he learned either with her or because of her.
ari shaffir
She was Asian in that movie.
joe rogan
So I think he's just one of those dudes.
He's just a little too smart for his own good.
He's running Facebook.
ari shaffir
They're trying to fucking addict you every chance they get.
joe rogan
Of course they are.
They definitely are.
But it's just the influence that one person can have when you're a kid who starts up a social network.
You think you're just going to connect people that want to say hi to their friends from school.
Yeah, you start making some cash.
And the next thing you know...
People are using it to shift democracies.
And then people are putting filters in there to try to control the content.
And then people are biased against certain political ideologies and more submissive or more permissive of others.
And then it becomes really weird.
Like, wait, is this a free speech zone?
Like, what is this?
Is this like you decide?
Who are you?
Who are these people that get to decide?
Are they deciding only for money?
Like, how did you engineer this?
Wait a minute, you didn't engineer it specifically to create conflict, but it's more monetarily beneficial for you to create conflict, and your algorithm is sort of conflict, it sort of gravitates towards conflict, right?
Like, if you engage with things, a lot of people, like, say if it's...
If it's a topic that is a very hot...
ari shaffir
Gets people mad.
joe rogan
Abortion.
If you engage with abortion threads, your feed will be filled with those things.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, it'll occupy them for sure.
Keep coming back.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's stuff that you engage with.
But here's my question.
If you're a person that instead engages with only positive stuff, would that make your...
I mean, is it just what you're engaging in?
Is that what the algorithm is?
ari shaffir
No, I have the answer.
So I did this as a test to myself, whatever, on YouTube to see how much YouTube was influencing me.
You know, with that algorithm.
You look at fucking one video.
joe rogan
Go down a hole, son.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you go down a hole.
Tim Pool kept coming up for fucking, you know, five months after that podcast you did.
And then it was like, so I was like, from now on, for a month, I'm only clicking on puppy videos.
I'm searching puppy videos.
When I see one, like, of yours or of somebody's that I want to see, or music, something that pops up before, I'm like, nope, not touching it.
Only searching and clicking on YouTube videos that have puppies.
Sometimes they gave me dogs.
But it was just more and more of that shit.
Soldiers coming home when their dog's greeting them.
And then eventually they just started hitting me with only fucking puppy videos.
joe rogan
So the algorithm just recognizes what you're interested in.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you can't blame people then.
ari shaffir
No, but sometimes it makes you think this way.
It makes you get mad about something.
You ever talk to someone who's like woke about something and you want to be like...
I don't really believe you.
I don't believe you're this mad about this thing.
Like, somebody made you this mad.
It doesn't quite make sense, you know?
And so then it's like, I think they've been influenced to think a certain way by these dumb algorithms.
joe rogan
It's kind of fun to be upset about things too.
One of the things about being into anything, left-wing or right-wing stuff, is when you get into it, it's fun.
Other people are into it, it's fun, too.
When you've got action, shit's happening, you're yelling at each other.
You're going to that fucking Facebook every day.
What the fuck do these assholes have to say about the First Amendment today?
ari shaffir
Right.
You want to get worked up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But you proved, at least on YouTube, that if you just gravitate towards positive things, like most of my YouTube feed is like MMA fights and pool matches.
I watch a lot of pool, pro pool, and muscle cars.
My YouTube feed is pretty much what I look for.
I don't look for a lot of shit.
I look to YouTube for fun only.
I'm not trying to learn anything.
ari shaffir
Does it still hit you with shit that you're like, oh, what is this about?
joe rogan
Yeah, occasionally.
They sneak some gossipy stuff in there, some celebrity stuff in there.
Weird ones get in that don't seem to make sense.
I don't understand why.
But I don't use Facebook.
ari shaffir
That's the most evil one.
joe rogan
I use it in the sense that it's connected to my Instagram, but I don't actually use it.
I don't get in there.
I don't read it.
jamie vernon
There's a little controversy this week that Instagram's going to take the likes away from viewing.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard about that.
ari shaffir
It's going to take the likes away from public viewing.
joe rogan
You can't see how many likes you got for a post anymore.
ari shaffir
Can you see how many views?
joe rogan
You can see it all, but I can't see how many likes you got.
So if you put up a picture and your picture got 40,000 likes, I can never see that.
ari shaffir
Wow.
So they can still make their money off it, but everyone else won't get into a contest.
jamie vernon
Speculation is that it's going to drive advertising dollars into giving money directly to Instagram instead of people being able to advertise on their own.
joe rogan
Oh, those fucks!
unidentified
Those fucks.
jamie vernon
I don't know if that's really what it is.
joe rogan
But if you were an Instagram, right, and you had people making shit tons of money off your platform just by posting things, hey, this is my new butt cream or whatever the fuck you're selling, and they don't even get a piece of that, they gotta be like, hey, what are we doing?
We're spending a million dollars a month in fucking bandwidth, probably way more than that, actually.
And way more than that.
They have videos and shit, too.
You could upload videos.
It's gotta be millions in bandwidth for every month.
And they're not getting none of that?
I get it.
ari shaffir
People go there and they get to mine them.
jamie vernon
They still get other ads.
They still monetize them.
joe rogan
But you'll be able to show.
If you have a screenshot of your phone.
jamie vernon
You can do that.
I also think that it's going to de-incentivize people to like photos.
ari shaffir
Exactly, because you don't see you making a difference.
jamie vernon
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Who's made more money than those butt doctors because of Instagram?
If you look at the percentage of uptick in revenue, butt doctors.
Guys who just specialize in butt jobs.
Instagram made them, they put them on the map.
This dude's out there with butt doctor houses.
ari shaffir
They were going broke.
They were having to do pot prescriptions.
And now suddenly they're in the money in butts.
joe rogan
Those guys are the best.
Those guys are the best.
ari shaffir
Dude, do you know there's a theory that I think is true that women are just hotter these days because they're always on the verge of being on Instagram.
So even to go to the supermarket, they're putting makeup on, they're putting nice clothes on, they're always looking their best because they run into a friend.
They might get uploaded.
joe rogan
This is a tough time to be frumpy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, if you're a gal, there's a lot of competition out there, and a lot of these hoes go for it, okay?
They go for it.
They're pulling their panties aside at 38% of their pictures, you know?
I mean, there's a lot of strong competition out there now.
They're changing the bar.
And this is, by the way, for sure, one of the reasons why prostitution is illegal.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
One of the reasons why prostitution is illegal, it would completely flip relationships on its head.
If guys didn't need to have a relationship to have sex, just sex, and relationships were only love, but you can go, no, get sex from a woman for money, just like you get a handjob, or just like you can get a massage, rather, you can get a handjob.
Yeah.
How can they massage your head if they can't massage your dick?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, if they could...
People would change what they want out of a relationship.
It would be different.
I'm not saying that all women are like this, but any woman that is sexually manipulative, she withholds sex from her man if he doesn't do certain things.
ari shaffir
That goes away.
My friends in Bangkok, where I met people in Bangkok, they don't play those...
The regular women here, the non-working women...
They don't play that game.
Because they know, dude, I can just walk down the street, like a bodega in New York, they're everywhere, and just find a woman.
So this like, I'll make him wait, it's like, shut up with that.
You're interested, just go for it.
joe rogan
The problem is shame for the girl.
That's the fucking problem.
If there was no shame for the girl, if no one really cared if she hooked up with you on a one night stand, it turns out she fucked your cousin a month ago, no one cared.
ari shaffir
That's almost gone.
joe rogan
It's almost gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It is almost gone, right?
It's changing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, conversations.
People didn't talk about this shit when we were kids.
You had to figure it out on your own.
ari shaffir
It's so casual now.
joe rogan
Dude, nobody taught you about jerking off.
Nobody taught you about drinking.
ari shaffir
Nope.
joe rogan
Nobody taught you what to do in a relationship.
Those are the three most confusing fucking things that happened to you.
Yeah, gassing.
ari shaffir
Can I make a PSA real quick for all the children who are going to start drinking?
Your parents are never going to teach you about alcohol use.
There's a thing called coasting.
When you have a few drinks, you can switch to water if you're feeling drunk.
You're going to throw up if you keep drinking like a child, but you're a child, right?
So you don't get how to do it yet.
You've got to coast.
One water, one beer.
One water, one beer.
And then you'll have a great time.
joe rogan
Don't have too many.
If you're going to drink, and I don't advise anyone under 21 to drink because that's illegal, but if I was going to advise them, I would say have two drinks.
Don't have more than two.
Two will fuck you up, man.
ari shaffir
Don't be that guy.
You're for sure going to get drunk, but just limit it to drunk.
joe rogan
If you're 16 years old, two shots of Jack Daniels will put you in a fucking goofy mood.
ari shaffir
I would say wherever you're at, if you're feeling good, just stop for a while.
joe rogan
Stop for a while.
unidentified
It's hard, though.
You're good right there.
ari shaffir
You still got more going down, too.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is you lose your inhibitions, right?
They go out the window.
And then you're having fun.
You want to have more fun.
ari shaffir
You'll have more fun if you switch up Coca-Cola.
Shots, shots, shots, shots.
All right!
joe rogan
Yeah, next thing you know, you got Bert on the table.
He's got his butt crack.
You're underneath it.
He's pouring asshole shots.
unidentified
It's the shots!
ari shaffir
Because you can have two or three of those in four minutes.
joe rogan
And get blasted instantaneously.
ari shaffir
And suddenly you're like, what happened?
joe rogan
You're mainlining alcohol.
Right to the old hatch.
One shot, you feel it.
Like, instantly.
unidentified
Like, woo!
ari shaffir
You're ready to throw up.
You still got two more shots that haven't hit you yet.
joe rogan
Woo!
That's what's up.
You know what else is up?
Ari Shaffir's going to be with me at the improv tonight at 10.30.
Sold out show, fuckers.
ari shaffir
That'll be great.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be a good time.
ari shaffir
I hope those shows are good.
joe rogan
Diaz is on the first show.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Nice.
joe rogan
Fun times.
ari shaffir
Can I ask my special?
joe rogan
Fuck, yeah.
ari shaffir
I'm finally doing my special.
joe rogan
Yes.
And which theater did you choose?
ari shaffir
The Skirball Center in New York.
We talked a lot about it.
joe rogan
Yes, I'm so glad.
Yeah.
Because tell everybody the whole, you went on a little journey there, trying to figure out where to go.
ari shaffir
Yeah, trying to find a venue.
It's a lot about Judaism, my upbringing, you know?
Fucking do that, comedy club funny, be done with that shit, you know?
So that's what I've been working on for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's been a couple of years, right?
ari shaffir
It's been the longest one, two and a half years.
joe rogan
But it's also the first one that you did like a theme.
And it's essentially, so what you did was like, there's a lot of guys who do that.
I've never been to Edinburgh.
But that festival is like, that's how it is, right?
And it's like a lot of people who do themes.
So you decided to do a theme, but to do this theme with American style stand-up.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's exactly it, dude.
Yes, that's exactly it.
I went with my storytelling show one year, and then my plan was to go show them what a fucking American Hour was, which is my last special.
Just like, hey, here's your stand-up, you fucking fools.
Trying to do some fucking higher thing where you're tying it all together, but they're not funny.
They do like 20 minutes of unfunny.
And so I was like, everybody here, I'm giving you an American hour.
And it was just that.
And then the next year the plan was, and it became two years later, was like, now I'll do one of your stupid fucking theme hours, but I'm not going to do it where I'm just fucking serious for 20 minutes.
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Is that what they do?
ari shaffir
They really do, and I don't get it.
I don't get why you have to...
I get the theme.
I don't get why you have to stop being funny.
It's all theater shit.
joe rogan
Did you see Hannah Gadsby?
ari shaffir
I didn't see her live.
She was there the year I was off.
Nanette?
joe rogan
Nanette.
I thought that was her name.
I thought her name was Nanette.
The show was called Dan and Gatsby.
unidentified
I fucked it up.
joe rogan
You didn't see it?
ari shaffir
I didn't see it live.
The people I know who saw it live was in the room.
They were like, damn.
It was pretty powerful.
Because that shit goes at Edinburgh.
People see four or five shows a day for five days in a row.
joe rogan
But her thing, a lot of it is not funny.
Some of it's funny, but a lot of it's not funny.
ari shaffir
Intentionally not funny.
joe rogan
Yes.
But these guys in England, the Edinburgh guys.
ari shaffir
Of the not funny part, that was like legit powerful stuff.
Where you're like, fuck, you're caught up in the emotion.
But a lot of them is just forcing in, and I've seen people doing my storytellers, like forcing in some lesson or something.
It's like, dude, it's not there.
It's okay.
You can just have a fun story.
joe rogan
Right, right, right, right.
Forcing in lessons is gross.
ari shaffir
I always like The Moth, which I like The Moth.
What's The Moth?
The Moth is a storytelling series.
Mikey D did one on there about getting AIDS. Oh, Jesus.
And about his aunt or something.
But usually it was like, comics did it, it was just funny, and then when normals did it, they were like...
They would have something.
They'd be like, that's not just the day I lost my watch.
That's the day I lost my innocence.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
So they just got overdramatic?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and that's what they do in Edinburgh a lot.
Some of them are really good, but that theme thing was that.
And I was like, I want to do that better.
joe rogan
When you say American-style stand-up, I almost wish I wasn't an American stand-up so I could fucking wholeheartedly agree with you.
ari shaffir
I mean, it's not.
We're just 15 years ahead.
joe rogan
But I wish I wasn't an actual American stand-up so I could have a non-opinionated point in this.
Because when I hear people say, like, America's not where the best stand-ups are, I'm like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck you!
ari shaffir
It's fine.
They're doing great.
They started behind us.
joe rogan
I'm sure a lot of you are out there in New Zealand and Florida and other countries.
Florida's not America.
What?
Australia, anywhere you're at.
There's good standards there.
Some of you are a genius, and some of you are amongst the best in the world.
It doesn't disqualify you from being amongst the best in the world.
But if you want to say that there's not a greater number of hilarious fucks, female and male, in America, a way disproportionate number, you're out of your fucking mind.
unidentified
You're out of your mind.
joe rogan
The greatest ones are here.
ari shaffir
You're out of your mind.
joe rogan
It's not even close.
There's no race.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Doesn't mean you're not awesome.
ari shaffir
It's a non-starter.
Yeah, right, exactly.
There's a lot of great comics in other places.
But overall, they're just like behind us.
joe rogan
Take us completely out of the equation.
Take our friends out of the equation.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
This place is filled with assassins.
ari shaffir
It's filled with assassins.
joe rogan
This is the Wild West.
ari shaffir
This whole country is built on fucking rebels.
joe rogan
Well, especially now with the internet, I mean, you can become a legit national act with no one's help like Andrew, like Schultz is doing.
Dude, he is doing everything through YouTube.
He's selling out theaters.
He's murdering it.
You don't need anybody anymore.
These fucking killers like him, all these assassins.
ari shaffir
He's turned a corner, too.
People talk about it.
Not about draw, but just about...
joe rogan
It was material.
ari shaffir
On stage, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's working at it.
He's a funny fuck, man.
He's a smart dude.
But the thing is, these guys, they're blossoming now.
There's a bunch of them, man.
They're all over the place.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a bunch of fucking assassins.
ari shaffir
It's a great time to be a comic.
It really is.
It really is.
And people get so worked up, too, which is also fun.
It's just a fun time overall.
joe rogan
People definitely get more mad than they ever have before, but they also get happier that you're willing to push the envelope, too.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Because it's a little bit of danger again.
We talked about this.
It's fucking dangerous again.
It's great.
joe rogan
Yeah, you said that to me on the phone once.
I'll never forget that.
I was driving home.
You're like, I love it.
Comedy's dangerous again.
ari shaffir
You might get written off!
If you say the wrong thing, like, I think I can go a little darker.
And they're like, nope, you're done!
Like, whoa!
joe rogan
Here's the thing, though.
We'll never be written off to each other.
ari shaffir
Oh, exactly.
We're fine.
joe rogan
But that's the reason why we can kind of...
We have freedom that maybe people in...
For sure, TV shows don't have.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They don't have any freedom.
They don't have any freedom.
ari shaffir
Well, none.
But also, right...
They can take away a level of money we can make.
But like, they can't take away the ability to do stand-up.
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Unless every club says we won't book you.
Or even the workout clubs don't have you.
You can just still do stand-up.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Which is like the main thing.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
ari shaffir
And you just have a few clubs that'll be like, yeah, we're never gonna fucking get rid of him for anything he says.
joe rogan
But yeah, and also, fans, like, if you did something, I mean, it would have to be some horrible shit.
ari shaffir
It would have to be real life shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to murder somebody or something.
Do you think OJ could do stand-up?
ari shaffir
For sure.
Oh my god, how do we make that happen?
We could get Tony to write for him.
Oh, for sure.
He's naturally charismatic.
joe rogan
I think he's friends with Norm.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think Norm McDonald, maybe, I shouldn't say friends, like Norm knows him.
And I think Norm has actually talked to him about doing his podcast.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
Do you know how epic that would be?
ari shaffir
That would be crazy.
I want to show you something that Stan wrote a long time ago, now that we're talking about this.
joe rogan
If Norm had...
ari shaffir
If Norm coached him?
joe rogan
O.J. Simpson on his podcast...
Hey, juice!
Norm has whatever the fuck the opposite of having a filter is.
It's not having no filter.
He's just got weird, crazy shit that's going to come out of his mouth.
He doesn't give a fuck.
ari shaffir
Did you see the Sacha Baron Cohen with OJ? No, I did not.
Oh, you gotta watch it.
joe rogan
He interviews OJ. Yeah, I know, I know.
I didn't see it, though.
ari shaffir
Oh, it's the best.
And he's just this Italian guy, and he's like, I mean, you gotta watch, but he's like, yeah, no, he has some assistant women, you know, I wish I could kill them, but I guess I cannot.
And the guy's like, OJ's like, all right, man, no, no, no.
unidentified
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Oh, he gets him.
Oh, he's just so convincing.
joe rogan
He's so ballsy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
To be able to do that shit right in front of those people, they don't even know what's happening.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And they've signed up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Here, read this.
This is what I mean by, like, they can't ever take it all away from us.
Because you have clubs like this, The Stand.
This is one of my e-rages.
joe rogan
Everyone calling The Stand, posting hateful messages and emailing hate speech to us.
We never respond to such irresponsible protests.
Despite what you feel about Ari Shafir, we have the right to book or hire anyone, regardless of their views on religion, race, or politics.
Ari is a comedian and a performer just because you view his creations as something that is not humorous, but hate speech.
That is your opinion.
Harassing our establishment will not deter us from booking Ari to perform at the stand.
Please refrain from engaging our staff.
Furthermore, unorganized protest over a something that is out of our control is not only morally wrong but is viewed as a crime.
We will find out what special interest group this is and press charges if this continues.
That is all.
Damn.
ari shaffir
That's our public post.
That's what everyone else is backing down.
It's like, well, it's a tough time right now.
You'll always have a few clubs like that.
They'll be like, get the fuck away.
We're not doing that.
So you'll always have a place to perform.
joe rogan
Thank God.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Thank Odin.
Praise Zeus.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
We need them.
We need people like the store.
We need places that...
You know, in some clubs, they don't recognize that.
unidentified
They used to...
ari shaffir
And Mitzi would do this.
They used to, like, write...
Like, full letters about Paul Mooney, complaining about him.
And we were like, what do you do?
And she was like, call Paul, read it to him, and then decide if he wants the letter or not.
Tell the people who complained that he's going to be severely punished.
joe rogan
That's what you do?
unidentified
That's funny.
ari shaffir
We would call Paul, we'd just laugh about it.
He goes, read it again, read it again, I love this.
And we'd read it back, he goes, you want to go safe for my day, yeah.
And then we'd call the person, we'd be like, okay, he's been docked for two weeks, he won't be here.
Here's four free tickets to the Comedy Store.
And we're hoping that they'd be there when he was there again.
And of course he was never told not to show up.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
But like, there were idiots back then too.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
Always.
There's always people that complain.
ari shaffir
But the club's never gonna bow down.
joe rogan
You know what I love looking at?
Yelp reviews.
When I find someone that's like a one star for a restaurant that I know is good.
I find one star.
And then I'll read the review and I'm like, let me check out this dude's profile.
ari shaffir
It's full of hate.
unidentified
Full of hate.
ari shaffir
Oh my god, he hates everything.
joe rogan
Everything sucks.
Everything sucks.
Every waiter is rude.
Every fucking food is cold.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's more like the Off-White House.
Wash it.
joe rogan
Some people are just twats.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're just...
You know, did you see that New York Times review?
They gave the fucking Brooklyn Steakhouse that we love...
What the hell is it called?
Peter Luger's.
They gave Peter Luger's one star.
ari shaffir
One star!
joe rogan
Remember?
We just went there.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was great.
joe rogan
It was fucking amazing.
ari shaffir
Oh my God.
joe rogan
It's a sizzling plate.
Dude.
ari shaffir
Those potatoes...
joe rogan
They gave it one star.
ari shaffir
Come on!
Three stars!
And you're like, wow, maybe something happened.
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's smart.
Because look, if you're a provocateur slash journalist, and I know how much you love trolls, that's what that guy did.
He took one of the most delicious restaurants of all time, and he made a one-star rating.
It's either that or he's a moron.
So either he's really clever, or he's got to be a twat.
jamie vernon
It shows up on top of Google when you search Peter Luger Review, too.
joe rogan
Used to sizzle, now it sputters.
One star.
ari shaffir
I can count on Peter Lucas takeouts in Brooklyn to produce certain sensations, and then I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, it's a very, very popular restaurant, right?
There's a giant waiting list.
Last time we were there, we luckily weaseled in and had to grease some palms, but it's a fucking sweet spot.
ari shaffir
Me and Diaz went.
When Diaz was in town, he was like, get a reservation.
They're like, you're out of your mind.
You can't get one.
And so we had my manager assistant call and say, we're part of Obama's staff.
We'll be there.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they said we could do 315, and that's it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
Part of Obama's staff.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
The food there is fucking amazing, man.
ari shaffir
You can't do that for a one-star restaurant, you cunt.
joe rogan
That's not one star.
ari shaffir
That's a troll.
You're absolutely right.
That's more than, he's not just, he's just Or he's one of those writers.
joe rogan
There's certain writers that are just trying to be assholes with everything they do.
They love being assholes.
They love accentuating the art form of being an asshole.
An art form of being an articulate asshole.
When you're an asshole with good, you know how to say the, you know, put the right words in the right order.
It just sounds juicy and pops and makes you seem terrible.
But when you're doing that over something like Peter Luger's, you lose all that one star means.
That's not what one star means.
What one star means is you go to the Olive Garden and the fucking guy who works behind the counter has heroin problems.
jamie vernon
It's actually zero stars.
joe rogan
Zero?
jamie vernon
I didn't even give it a one.
It was a zero star.
Oh, that's hilarious.
ari shaffir
There's no zero stars.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
One is the lowest.
jamie vernon
Not today.
joe rogan
Come on, that's hilarious.
ari shaffir
That's a Photoshop.
Is that really?
No, you can't do zero stars.
It's a Photoshop.
unidentified
It's a troll.
joe rogan
See, it's more showing that this guy's trolling.
Look, we're talking about him.
ari shaffir
It's great.
joe rogan
He's a smart guy.
ari shaffir
He's made us uncover him, though, and we uncovered him.
joe rogan
Look, he's a smart guy.
ari shaffir
I did get riled up.
joe rogan
If you want to make a fucking splash in the restaurant review business in 2019, that's what you do.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You can't go positive with shitty places.
That won't work.
Negative with great places.
joe rogan
Negative.
ari shaffir
You know how you all love this?
Well, I hate it.
joe rogan
I shit in your mouth.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, he was talking about the steak not being flavorful.
ari shaffir
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
You're out of your fucking mind.
ari shaffir
If they dropped it on the floor and picked it up on the way, it's still a two-star.
joe rogan
He's bullshitting.
ari shaffir
It's so good.
joe rogan
He's bullshitting.
And we're all buying it.
Hook, line, and sinker.
We're like a bass right now, like this.
ari shaffir
He absolutely got us.
joe rogan
He got us.
Hook in the jaw.
I'm fighting against the drag.
ari shaffir
It's so much more fun to be angry at something.
Well, let me finish telling you my special.
joe rogan
Oh, your special.
ari shaffir
Okay.
Okay.
So, since it was this, whatever, this theme thing, I was like, we should do it in a synagogue.
There's this place that I was like, this works because it's like a performance space that was a synagogue, and then they didn't want me to do it because of my material.
And then we kept trying to find new synagogues that would let me do it.
The one that would be good for performance, and then also that would let me do it, and they were all like, no fucking way.
Some of them are like, do you have Holocaust jokes?
I'm like, yes!
And they're like, no.
unidentified
My dad has survived, but I can see whatever the fuck I want.
ari shaffir
Or do I have to be one?
joe rogan
No, I think you can say whatever the fuck you want.
ari shaffir
If I say it in front of him, anyway.
joe rogan
Your dad is a fucking Holocaust survivor.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
This is a real thing, you know?
I mean, the Holocaust was a real thing.
ari shaffir
It's not a deal with it as a people.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the thing.
It's like, that's one of the rare things where only Jews can talk about it in that way.
I mean, anybody can talk about anything, right?
But only Jews can talk about the Holocaust from a position of, hey, that was my family that was killed.
That was my dad who was in the fucking concentration camps.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you can give some seriousness too.
But like, yeah, I'll do it the way I want to do it.
joe rogan
The only people that can say that, that that is my family.
ari shaffir
Or the people that were...
joe rogan
Or Jews.
They're the only people.
So if anybody...
ari shaffir
The Armenians got fully wiped out.
joe rogan
Dude.
There's plenty of them.
Go to Glendale.
Not only did the Armenians have a genocide, but there was a denial of their genocide.
Like a serious denial of their genocide.
ari shaffir
More than the Jew ones.
joe rogan
Yeah, like open and recent.
Not that long ago, people were still denying the Armenian genocide.
Yeah, that's a very touchy one with them, man.
I didn't know about it until Manny Gamburian told me about it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they hate the Turks.
joe rogan
Well, they hate the people who massacred their ancestors.
ari shaffir
They also just hate the Turks.
joe rogan
You think so?
ari shaffir
Yeah, at this point.
They're probably not delineating.
Isn't it weird that...
Ah, fuck all of you.
joe rogan
Is Turkey not Turkey to them?
Is that one of them countries?
Like, Japan is Nippon, right?
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Like, we're like, nah, don't like it, Japan.
There's a few countries.
I think Greece is not Greece.
I don't believe they call it Greece.
ari shaffir
Israel is Israel.
joe rogan
It's close enough.
That's close enough.
ari shaffir
Greece is not Greece.
joe rogan
I don't believe Greece is Greece.
ari shaffir
Mexico and Mexico are close.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's close enough.
ari shaffir
Iceland's probably not Iceland.
They have a whole different language.
joe rogan
Maybe, right?
Yeah, what is Iceland?
But what is Greece in their language?
What's the word?
I might have made that up.
Let's see if I made that up.
ari shaffir
Let's see.
joe rogan
My brain is falling apart lately.
ari shaffir
Anyway, my special is February 8th.
Stop taping it.
February 8th.
jamie vernon
It's a hard question to Google.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Why?
jamie vernon
What is Greece called in Greece?
In Greek.
joe rogan
What is the real name of the country Greece?
unidentified
Okay.
jamie vernon
I was trying a turkey thing and it's too close to Thanksgiving.
ari shaffir
Turn off your safety.
joe rogan
Turn on your hot light.
What is Greece?
What is the country Greece?
What is the real name of the country Greece?
The real name of the country Greece?
What is it?
jamie vernon
The ancient or modern name of the country is Hellas or Helada.
Helada.
The official name is the Hellenic Republic.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's better than Greece.
ari shaffir
It's tougher.
joe rogan
It's not something you put on an axle.
ari shaffir
It's not something you mix up with dancing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Greece is the word.
That's better.
Hellenic Republic?
So that's one.
We fucked that one up.
I'm pretty sure we fucked up Turkey.
I don't think they call Turkey Turkey.
Germany is Deutschland, right?
ari shaffir
Deutschland, yeah.
jamie vernon
Turkey adopted it.
ari shaffir
They took it.
jamie vernon
They adopted its official name known in English as the Republic of Turkey.
joe rogan
I bet the butterball industry bribed them.
It was probably some cross-promotion with Kellogg's.
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Remember when Kazakhstan got mad at L.E.G.? Fucking real mad at him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Real mad at him.
Furious.
He was making fun.
ari shaffir
I'm so mad.
It just made everybody happier.
joe rogan
Dude, that Borat movie is one of my favorite movies ever.
ari shaffir
That was one of the best.
One of the best comedies.
joe rogan
So good.
It's so good.
ari shaffir
It's up there.
God damn, it was funny.
joe rogan
So good.
You go back and watch it today and you're like, what in the fuck, man?
ari shaffir
I haven't seen it in a while.
joe rogan
And again, that guy, he's just so good at fucking with people.
He's so good at keeping a straight face.
While all this madness is going on, remember when he shit in the bag and was handing it to one of the people in the house in Georgia?
Do you remember that?
ari shaffir
At the end.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
Do you know he fell asleep in that house in Georgia?
It's like a plantation house.
He's trying to get a little racist around him.
And then he fell asleep because they were drinking wine.
There was like a wine plantation.
He fell asleep.
And they were like, he's going to wake up.
He's not going to know what character he's in.
Like the people with him.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ari shaffir
And then he didn't know what to do.
But then he woke up and he was just like right into it.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Like saw where he was.
Like, mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Got blasted, woke up drunk, still realized he was Borat.
That's funny, man.
Him with Donald Trump back in the day when he was Ali G. Did you ever see the Ali G movie?
He made a movie that was only available in the UK. I actually bought a special VHS player just to play it.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because it was one of those ones that was...
There used to be two formats.
No, VHS. There used to be two formats of VHS. There was a format that they used over in the UK, and there was a format that we use here.
And they're not compatible.
And you have to either get a universal player, one that plays all formats, or you had to get a separate one.
So I went and got one that plays both.
But I got it specifically so I could get the Ali-G TV shows, too.
You used to be able to buy the TV shows online in VHS. The TV shows were great, yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, those are great.
joe rogan
The ones from England.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm telling you, man, this fucking movie is great.
It's so silly, especially if you're high.
It's really funny.
It's really funny.
And I heard people tell me it's terrible.
I'm like, dude, don't talk to me.
I fucking laughed entirely through this movie.
If you're a stoner, this is an outstanding movie.
What is it called?
Ollie G. In the House.
It's from 2002. Dude, it's so good.
It's a lost gem.
unidentified
Is that the dude from the office?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
ari shaffir
The dude that was with him?
The white guy?
jamie vernon
Probably.
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe.
joe rogan
I don't remember.
ari shaffir
In the British office.
Yeah, I think it was.
In Hitchhiker's Guide.
joe rogan
Either way.
It's fucking great.
It's fucking great.
It's really funny, man.
Really funny.
There's a dog licking his balls.
This is ridiculous.
ari shaffir
Oh, this is fun.
You ever see Tom Green's shitty amazing movie?
joe rogan
Yes!
ari shaffir
Freddie Got Fingered?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, God, that was funny.
joe rogan
There's some funny moments in that movie.
ari shaffir
They call that the worst.
There was another one-star movie.
They call that the worst movie of all time.
And then you finally watch it, and you're like, this is legitimately funny.
joe rogan
Funny shit.
Funny shit.
ari shaffir
So, like, real laughs.
joe rogan
That's another one, if you watched it today, you'd be laughing hard.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially if you're a stoner.
Remember when the baby was in the umbilical cord and he's swinging around the room?
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
ari shaffir
At the end, he, like, lands with his house in, like, the desert somewhere.
It's like, it kind of should already be over, and it's like, he's still going.
And then everyone's greeting him, him and his dad, like, rip torn or something.
They're greeting him, and one of the signs says, why is this movie still going?
joe rogan
His whole fucking show was crazy.
ari shaffir
That show was amazing.
joe rogan
That was an amazing show.
ari shaffir
God damn.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It was the best.
You've never seen anything like that in Jackass.
joe rogan
He took some risks.
ari shaffir
God damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of people taking serious risks on TV back then.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How about...
What's his face?
The fucking...
God damn it.
The ex-experi...
What is his name that does the fucking...
The guy who would do the pranks on people and put makeup on and shit?
ari shaffir
Get there?
Jamie Kennedy experiment?
joe rogan
Yes, Jesus Christ.
How am I not getting Jamie Kennedy out of my mouth?
unidentified
You are.
Weed.
joe rogan
My tolerance, that whole went off.
unidentified
It went down, huh?
joe rogan
My tolerance is through the fucking floor.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I have nothing.
ari shaffir
I was smart this time.
I went into it going like, give me something like 14%.
This is 40. Whatever.
joe rogan
40. This is that goddamn Kevin Smith shit.
He gets obliterated all day.
Jamie Kennedy had a great show.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jamie Kennedy experiment?
Is that what it was?
ari shaffir
Experiment, yeah.
joe rogan
That was a great fucking show.
How about the one where he talked those guys into being gay Chippendales dancers?
Remember?
ari shaffir
He did some good stuff.
jamie vernon
I don't remember that one.
joe rogan
It was Guys Gone Nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like he was a sleazy producer and he was telling these guys that they were going to be in this new show called Guys Gone Nuts.
And then eventually it got further down the line.
He made them dance and stuff.
But then eventually it got further down the line where they were going to have to do gay stuff.
He was getting them on film, saying how much gay stuff they'd be willing to do.
It was legitimately ridiculous.
And he's this sleazy promoter, treating them like they're male prostitutes.
It's very funny.
It was very funny.
And it's another one that's real.
These are not actors.
ari shaffir
Do you remember when he got Holtzman to wipe his feet?
joe rogan
No, I don't.
unidentified
He said he was a king.
ari shaffir
He was playing a king.
Or a Saudi prince.
Holtzman was just somebody he got.
joe rogan
So Holtzman was like an actor for it?
ari shaffir
No!
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Holtzman had no idea this was happening.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He wiped the guy's feet because he thought the guy was the king?
ari shaffir
Eventually he was like, in my country you're supposed to wipe some of his feet.
And he had Holtzman, who used to open mics with him.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So Holtzman didn't know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Just full makeup, the accent.
joe rogan
The makeup's amazing.
ari shaffir
And then he's wiping his feet and then he's just like, wow.
joe rogan
Those guys who put that crazy latex shit on your face when they can give you a fake nose and fake cheeks, like you can't tell.
You can't tell.
Especially not someone with vision problems.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And for that, I'm looking for it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You ever hear about Jim Carrey after Man on the Moon?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
He got those people that did the makeup for him to look like...
joe rogan
Andy Kaufman.
ari shaffir
Andy Kaufman and Zamuda.
joe rogan
Right.
Tony Clifton, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
He got them to make him up as whatever and the rumors that I heard.
So I obviously have no idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Put him up in just makeup and then he drove a cab around and drove fares around just so we could hear what people are actually saying when they don't know it's Jim Carrey in the room.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I could see when you become someone like Jim Carrey, it's got to be weird as fuck.
He probably wanted to go on a little vacation with a fake face.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If it was really easy to do, if it didn't take hours to apply, you'd probably want to do that just to see how everybody treats you.
ari shaffir
Just being normal?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's great.
What a good idea.
Especially if you're that big.
You can't go anywhere in the world.
joe rogan
Well, he's also now, he's become some new thing, right?
ari shaffir
Psychedelic.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's not really an actor anymore.
He paints and talks about things, and he's into psychedelics.
ari shaffir
Way in.
Like, everything he talks about is like, he doesn't mention the psychedelics.
jamie vernon
He's still in stuff.
He's in that new Sonic the Hedgehog movie.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think he's still doing stuff.
jamie vernon
He's in some TV show recently, too.
joe rogan
What is it?
Sonic the Hedgehog's your voice?
Is that what it is?
jamie vernon
He's like the bad guy.
joe rogan
Oh, the voice?
jamie vernon
No, he's a full human.
joe rogan
He's an actual human?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Oh, so it's a live movie?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
It's a big controversy, but the trailer just came out today.
ari shaffir
And he was on a TV show like a year ago.
joe rogan
Are the nerds mad that it's a movie?
jamie vernon
They were mad, yeah.
ari shaffir
Of course they'd be mad.
They can't be happy that they're making Sonic into a movie and getting Jim Carrey, one of the biggest actors in the world.
They're taking it seriously.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
When would the nerds be okay when they hear movies coming out?
joe rogan
They're never okay with anything.
ari shaffir
Batman, the first Batman with Michael Keaton, they were, I don't know, it seemed like they were happy.
joe rogan
I remember when there was one of the biggest controversy I ever heard about a role was when they were going to have Tom Cruise play in Interview with a Vampire.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, when he was the lead.
He was Lestat.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
Because it was a beloved book?
Anne Rice did not want Tom Cruise to play Lestat.
He was like this super intense character in these excellent books.
You ever read those books?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
They're very good.
And she, you know, had this vision for what her vampire king character was like.
ari shaffir
What'd she want?
joe rogan
The lead in the vampire.
She wanted someone who was just more depth and intelligence and just someone who had more layers.
And she felt like Tom Cruise is like Top Gun.
You know what I mean?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like color of money.
But that little crazy fucking act his ass off.
ari shaffir
What was that?
joe rogan
He can act his fucking ass off.
And he was really good in that movie.
I mean, he fucking nailed it.
Like, when he's like an angry vampire in that movie and he's yelling at that little girl, you're like, holy shit!
Like, I'm buying this madness.
He was excellent.
ari shaffir
He's good for a long time.
joe rogan
Oh, he's good, dude.
He's fucking great.
He's crazy as fuck, but he's great.
He's gotta be.
He's hook, line, and sinker with the fucking sci-fi religion.
Yeah.
Sci-fi religion.
That's what it is.
But his acting is fucking still.
He can go for it, man.
What is that?
Edge of Tomorrow?
Yeah, that was the one where he lives over and over and over again.
ari shaffir
People had already given up on him for the movie or two before, and then that movie came out and nobody saw it, but it was so fucking good.
joe rogan
So good.
That movie is so good.
That's one of the most underrated science fiction films of all time.
ari shaffir
Living the same day, over and over again.
And every time I'd be like, no, because they would do this, and then they would cover that.
Like, oh yeah, okay, you're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
ari shaffir
I've been on rabbit holes for YouTube.
I've been on a rabbit hole of Groundhog Day.
It's like same thing, living the same day over and over again.
And one of them was how long did Bill Murray spend day after day?
It was a total amount of time.
joe rogan
What was a total amount of time?
ari shaffir
They think it's a route because they were like, it's death.
He had to do it this many times.
It's bowling a perfect game, all these different things.
They said about 30 years of living the same day over and over again.
joe rogan
You know what I always used to think?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and then you would do everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, as I was getting older, one of the things I thought was, like, why do I have this expectation that at some point in time, a person stops learning and growing?
Like, I never expected people in their 60s, like, being better people and learning more.
ari shaffir
Like, they're done.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're done.
Whoever that guy is, he's done.
ari shaffir
Because people do stop.
joe rogan
Right, but why?
So my thought was, like, why do I have these expectations for people?
Instead of just being open-minded.
I almost assume that when people hit a certain age, they're fucking done.
They throw in the towel.
ari shaffir
But you do meet some people who don't do that, right?
Who are like taking an art class.
Somebody's mom or grandmother that's like, oh, I'm learning archery.
It's like, well, that's cool.
joe rogan
When Bourdain was 58 and he started getting seriously fucking into jiu-jitsu, like seriously into jiu-jitsu, I was like, look at you, motherfucker.
I love it.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
That's how you, I mean...
ari shaffir
Loved it and went for it.
joe rogan
Like taking lessons, private lessons, every day for an hour and then training and rolling with people for an hour.
Every day.
ari shaffir
Wow, really?
joe rogan
Seven days a week like heroin.
Like how he used to be addicted to heroin, he got addicted to jiu-jitsu.
All in.
Developed a six-pack.
Got jacked.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
Jacked.
There's a picture of him walking down the street in Italy.
Full-on six-pack.
I mean, you look at it like, this is the guy that I used to know that was on high cholesterol medication.
He was on statins.
Because of his diet.
Because he's on the road drinking wine, eating fucking this and that, and fatty foods, and a lot of sugar, and just drinking whatever the fuck he wants, right?
And he got fat.
You know, not fat, like a big fat guy, but he definitely developed like a little belly.
Then boom!
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
ari shaffir
He looks like Dan Bilzerian.
joe rogan
Dude, he got into jiu-jitsu and completely transformed his body.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
Lost all the weight, stopped eating sugar, stopped eating carbs, started eating really healthy, cut way back on the drinking.
And developed a goddamn legitimate six-pack.
ari shaffir
Super healthy.
It's going to live forever.
joe rogan
I think that's a seven-pack.
That bottom one is a solid one.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
That's a seven-pack.
People always like to say eight-pack, but I don't ever see a separation in that bottom one.
You've got to be like some kind of turtle person, you know?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's like a long one.
It's a tan line.
joe rogan
Point is, the dude transformed his fucking body.
He's throwing a lot of dick root there, though.
I'm not happy about that.
ari shaffir
I mean, it's low hangers.
unidentified
Pull up.
joe rogan
Pull up.
ari shaffir
I think he bought those shorts like 20 pounds ago.
joe rogan
No.
Maybe.
It could be that.
ari shaffir
Where'd you get that ball?
joe rogan
Where did I get that ball?
Oh, um...
Who brought that in?
Oh.
Dave LaDuke.
ari shaffir
Who's Dave LaDuke?
joe rogan
Dave LaDuke is a Latwe champion.
He fights in the most brutal form of stand-up striking with a headbutt, and they soccer kick each other on the way down.
ari shaffir
Where do you get that?
Thailand, probably?
joe rogan
Or Burma?
I think it was Myanmar.
ari shaffir
Me and Marberma?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Yeah, dude, they play these games there.
joe rogan
Yes, he showed us the game.
ari shaffir
The volleyball games.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one of those balls.
ari shaffir
It's the best.
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Crazy, right?
ari shaffir
They get above the net with just their leg.
And they play, first of all, barefoot most of the time.
I saw a guy play a one-on-three for money.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ari shaffir
He was amazing.
joe rogan
Is that good?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And these other guys were just laughing about it.
They were trying to fucking...
He was spiking it.
Spikes it down.
joe rogan
With his foot?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
That was my second day in Yangon.
You're seeing this stuff and you're like, how are they doing this?
And barefoot on concrete.
joe rogan
I've seen it only on a dirt floor that they're barefoot.
ari shaffir
That's a lot of dirt.
joe rogan
Barefoot on concrete too?
Wow.
ari shaffir
It's nuts.
joe rogan
That is crazy.
ari shaffir
It's so cool.
It's one of the coolest games I've ever seen.
And they keep it going.
They have circles where they just get going and they do the kick.
I mean, I'm sure you talked about it.
They do this, it's fine.
I get that.
But when it goes over your head, doing this.
unidentified
So they hit this straight and know how to pop it right back up.
ari shaffir
I've tried it a hundred times.
The best I can do is kick it that way.
joe rogan
I think it's one of those things that if your body doesn't develop throwing your legs around like that, it's really hard to do.
That was the thing about Taekwondo.
Like when I was teaching, you would get people that were like in their 30s.
It was really hard for them to learn it.
Really hard for them to get good.
So they can like whip their leg around.
But if you get those little kids, when they're like five and six, you get them to teach them how to whip their legs into things.
Here they go.
ari shaffir
Oh my god, they're so good!
jamie vernon
It's one verse three.
joe rogan
Oh, this is the one?
jamie vernon
Well, I don't know if it's the one you saw, but this is a...
ari shaffir
Yeah, you can use your head.
jamie vernon
One verse three guy.
joe rogan
Well, this seems like these guys are fucking it up.
jamie vernon
Well, they're also Americans.
joe rogan
Oh, they're Americans that are trying to play?
ari shaffir
They're playing good, though!
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at him.
Oh, he fucked up.
ari shaffir
Oh, you fucked up, loser, dork.
He's wearing a fucking helmet.
No, it's a bandana.
joe rogan
This is a wild game, though, man.
Very difficult to do.
ari shaffir
Oh my god!
unidentified
Ha ha!
ari shaffir
You got beaten.
You're not better than everyone.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Stupid.
joe rogan
Anyway, killer game.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Oh, man.
joe rogan
If you could learn that, how to whip your legs around like that when you're like eight or nine years old, as you get older, you'll maintain that sort of leg dexterity.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I sent one of those back.
I have one of those in my apartment.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I sent it back.
I took it from Myanmar to Thailand, and then I was like, I need to send this to myself.
Back in New York?
Yeah.
And they're like, all right, we can get it there in two days.
I'm like, no, I don't need it there.
I'm like, slower than that.
What's cheaper?
They're like, I mean, a week?
I'm like, dude, I'm in no rush.
I won't be there for, like, months.
I'm like, we can get you there in three months for, like, $4.
And I'm like, yup, that's the one.
No rush on this.
joe rogan
That's the deal?
Three months for $4?
ari shaffir
It was, like, so slow.
It was by Mule or something.
And I was like, I'm not there, so go ahead.
joe rogan
Somebody Mule-ed it away.
By Mule meaning someone stuffed in their house.
unidentified
The whole fucking box.
joe rogan
It's a weird game.
That's one where you need a certain specific kind of athleticism.
Someone who's an outstanding basketball player or a football player, you're not going to be good at that.
That's not just pure athleticism.
That's a weird leg dexterity skill.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
How do they do it?
joe rogan
I mean, think about what I can throw a lot of crazy kicks.
I can't do what those guys are doing.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I don't know how to do that.
I can kick over my head.
I can do a split.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I can do a lot of wild shit still.
ari shaffir
You have to learn how to kick and forward.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You'd have to learn how to jump up and you're whipping down and kicking the thing down.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you are trying to get a leg up.
unidentified
But it's up and I think you'd have to be crazy flexible too.
joe rogan
It looks like you've got to be crazy flexible.
Like I'm watching their legs fly up.
There's no resistance at all.
Most people have a lot of resistance when you try to lift your leg up.
ari shaffir
They're doing it all the time.
joe rogan
All the time.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
When are you doing your next special?
joe rogan
I don't think I'm thinking about it.
ari shaffir
Good.
joe rogan
I'm right now just writing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just enjoying performing.
And when I get the bug, when it feels like, hmm, this is there.
I want to, you know, I was thinking about, I actually talked about this with Malcolm Gladwell in the last podcast.
I was quoting Jeselnik.
Jeselnik, he has a three-year process.
He does it in the clubs just around LA, develops an hour.
Then he takes it on the road in clubs, and then he takes it on the road the next year in theater.
So it's a three-year process.
That might be the way to go.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Louie had that, but not in the three-year, just like when he was doing them, like, you know, three months, four months, four months.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was doing a new special in a year.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which I guess you could if that's all you did, and you just really dug into it.
But I think things need time to cook.
ari shaffir
Also, I find there's some times where it's like, I watch Atel a lot in New York, and he's like, the best.
joe rogan
I was just saying that to Malcolm Gladwell too.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
He was the guy that I said.
If there's one person who's at a super elite level where he doesn't get enough love, it's David Tell.
ari shaffir
And it's like you see him on a regular basis and you're like, Jesus Christ.
He's just on a level above even the highest level people.
joe rogan
Super dedicated to only his craft.
He has zero promotion in him.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And so when he does a, he has a topical bit.
He's not thinking like, well, I don't have time to work on this for three weeks until people don't know the reference anymore.
Right.
Because I got to work on a special.
He's not thinking that way.
He's like, oh, I got three weeks with this fucking topic.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And so he hits it harder than anybody.
And then when people are starting to lose the memory of the topic, he just moves on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But he's constantly having fun, though.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And doing new cool things.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
He's also a guy who says the best example of someone who got better when they got sober.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
The best example, right?
Because nobody else does.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
Everybody else gets sober and then they get serious.
And it's like, oh, come on.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
You can't have a sense of humor about anything anymore.
Come on.
joe rogan
That's the beautiful thing about podcasts, too.
One of the beautiful things is that you don't have to, like ideas that you have that aren't funny, you don't have to bring them to the stage.
ari shaffir
They're fine on podcasts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they fit for that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because remember, there was a point in time after Hicks where a lot of people were trying to do bits on stage that meant something.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But you see them doing that, and you're like, okay, it's fine if you have that, but I just always feel like this.
Why are you not being funny?
joe rogan
Why are you pushing that, right?
ari shaffir
Bill Hicks did it, and honestly, I have the same problem with him.
joe rogan
Hey, how dare you?
ari shaffir
It's just so much not funny.
unidentified
But...
joe rogan
But a lot funny too, man.
A lot funny.
He had some funny shit.
And you gotta also take it in the context of the time.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If you were alive back then and watching it back then, it would be really funny shit.
You know, when I saw him, it was like 90...
ari shaffir
Yeah, you gotta put it in context of the time.
I just never got it, really.
joe rogan
Well, I saw him in like...
unidentified
Deep talking.
The first time I saw him was like 88. But were you laughing when you heard it?
ari shaffir
Or were you just like, whoa, yeah!
Right on, man.
joe rogan
Both.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
Both.
I was laughing, and I was saying, wow, this guy's...
He's out there.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was, like, railing against capitalism and fucking Tiffany in the mall with Jimi Hendrix.
He had this crazy bit.
Like, Tiffany, like, think I'm alone now.
Running into Jimi Hendrix at the mall.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He just had all these, like, counterculture bits.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, a lot of it was mocking ridiculous trends in American culture.
He just had some...
Very, very unique takes on things that didn't necessarily fit with our idea of what we thought comedy was.
Like, you never thought, like, oh yeah, you make comedy out of that, too.
That's what he would do.
So he was, like, making comedy out of, like, weird ideas, like anti-war ideas, and he was doing stuff that other people weren't doing.
And it changed people's opinion of comedy, because there was something about when Hicks would go on stage, you would feel like, why?
Richard Jenny said this to me.
Richard Jenny back then was the master.
ari shaffir
He was great.
joe rogan
He said, every time I see him, I say, why don't I write more shit like that?
That's what Jenny said to me after he saw Hicks.
He goes, I always think, why don't I write things like that?
ari shaffir
Because he was so deep, Hicks.
Very deep.
joe rogan
And Jenny was just funny.
He was just writing funny things.
ari shaffir
Isn't that weird when some master looks at somebody else and is like, oh, why can't I be more like that?
It's like, damn, you're not happy?
joe rogan
Well, Jenny was never happy.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
Good point.
joe rogan
He was a guy that, for whatever reason, thought that he had to be like Seinfeld with a television show or Jim Carrey with a movie career.
He had to be that.
And he was like the most probably underappreciated stand-up, in my opinion, one of the most underappreciated ones ever, but definitely from his era.
Meanwhile, he has all these specials that you can go watch.
You can watch how good the guy was.
And when I saw him live, again, in the context of the time, because I saw him live in like... Jenny.
Yeah, first time I saw him was 88, but I saw him a bunch of times.
But I saw him murder at the Comedy Works in Montreal.
You know, that room is like 100 people max, right?
ari shaffir
Oh, that place, yeah.
joe rogan
Tiny-ass room upstairs.
He lit that fucking place on fire.
And I remember he was doing a bit about some guy trying to sell him a car, some car salesman selling him a car.
And I was like, this is like the most...
Standard blah premise.
How could he extract so much comedy out of someone selling him a car?
But it was like a murderous bit.
It was just crushing.
Just punchline after punchline.
Bang, bang, bang.
And you're like, fuck!
But again, it's like I've said this so many times about him.
You gotta be there in that moment.
Stand-up on TV is maybe 60% as funny as it is when you're seeing it live.
Maybe.
That's why people go, why are they laughing?
Because they're there.
It's funnier.
It's funnier when you're there.
Right?
Comedy Club is the funniest.
Theater, second.
Arenas.
Arena just gets crazy.
The arenas are weird.
It's like you're laughing, but it's also like, wow, how many fucking people are here?
There's like this weird feeling to it.
There's an extra energy to it.
Yeah.
But watching it...
So if you watch Richard Janney today and you go, I didn't think it was that funny.
Listen to me.
ari shaffir
You gotta be in the room.
joe rogan
You have to be in the room.
And second of all, we're in 2019. Right.
This is 1990, right?
ari shaffir
Wow, almost 30 years or 29 years ago.
joe rogan
I mean, the first time I watched him was, I think it was 92 or 93. On stage at the Comedy Works.
But the first time I saw him physically, I was an open-miker.
That was in 88. I paid to see him at Catch a Rising Star in Cambridge.
And it was a half-filled room.
It was like a Thursday night.
He was like a guy who had been on The Tonight Show.
And I knew him because he had been on The Tonight Show.
ari shaffir
And you were a comic.
joe rogan
And I was a comic.
I was maybe a week in or something like that.
And I paid to go see him.
And me and my friend sat in the front row.
And he made fun of me.
He was excellent.
But he was great.
He was great.
And he was so casual and loose with his punchlines.
And I remember thinking, God damn, this fucking guy, he's got it made.
He's just traveling around the country doing stand-up.
But he didn't think that way.
He wanted to be a movie star.
ari shaffir
You look at people and you're like, you know, you would have killed for your life and you're upset about it right now.
You would have killed for your life 20 years ago.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
I mean, forever, dude.
What I wanted to do from the time I was a beginner in 1988 was I wanted to make a living doing comedy.
After that, everything's gravy.
ari shaffir
Everything's, exactly.
joe rogan
It's gravy.
And listen, I've lived in a shitty apartment.
The only thing that sucks about shitty apartments is bugs and crime.
ari shaffir
Roommates.
joe rogan
That's it.
You get used to everything then.
ari shaffir
You do.
It's fine.
joe rogan
You get used to everything.
ari shaffir
It's really fine.
It takes like a week and then you're used to it.
joe rogan
Prison may be a little different, but if you've got freedom, if you're in a place, as long as your life's not being threatened and your fucking things aren't getting stolen, all that other stuff is mostly bullshit.
If your house has two bedrooms or four bedrooms...
ari shaffir
You get used to it.
joe rogan
You get used to everything, man.
ari shaffir
You ever hear the $88,000 theory?
joe rogan
Everything over $88,000.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it does not improve your happiness.
Your happiness does improve with more money, up to $88,000.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
ari shaffir
And then it's like, a new Lamborghini gives you the same happiness as a new, you know, BMW, as a new Honda.
It's like your new car.
joe rogan
The thing about a Lamborghini is you can't leave it anywhere.
You know?
That's the thing about those.
If you've got a stupid car like that, you don't just pull it up to the mall and park anywhere you want.
You feel weird.
You know?
I was driving down the Pacific Coast Highway, and this guy had a Lamborghini in his driveway, but he didn't have it in his garage.
He just had it parked in his driveway, and it was kind of like sticking out in the street.
People were whizzing by, wham, wham, in Malibu.
I'm like, what a weird thing Malibu is, where these houses that are on the fucking highway, like on the Pacific Coast Highway.
It's a highway, and there's a door that's five feet from a speeding car.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't know how they get their car into those driveways.
joe rogan
Dude, they barely get in there without dying.
ari shaffir
But then how do they get out?
joe rogan
Cars are flying by.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's 60 and they're just turned off.
joe rogan
And there's a ton of bars on that fucking road.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I've driven drunk on that street.
joe rogan
I mean, you have never driven drunk.
ari shaffir
I have allegedly never driven drunk.
unidentified
No, no, no, never.
joe rogan
You've never driven drunk on that street.
When you see cars flying by.
ari shaffir
That's where Mel Gibson, he set the tone.
We're all just following his footsteps.
joe rogan
He went on a crazy anti-Jew rant, right?
ari shaffir
He sure did.
None of us cared.
joe rogan
The Jews.
ari shaffir
We thought it was funny.
joe rogan
Well, it's just...
The worst one was the voicemails that the wife...
ari shaffir
The hot tub?
joe rogan
The one who was like...
You got my hot tub, you suck my dick!
Yeah, that was great.
unidentified
I'm a husband!
joe rogan
You should shut up and blow me!
But she felt...
I didn't want to support her ability to do that.
How does she do that?
How are you allowed to do that?
unidentified
Do what?
joe rogan
It should be record someone's voicemails and then play it on the internet.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
That should be really illegal.
joe rogan
Especially if you're married to Mel Gibson.
And he's drinking.
He's a fucking nice guy, man.
I met him when I came on with Dr. Neil Reardon.
Talk about stem cells.
Stem cells severely helped his father.
ari shaffir
Stem cells kept my wife's neck to give me a blowjob!
joe rogan
Whoa.
I don't think that was on the tapes.
ari shaffir
Okay.
I didn't listen to the whole podcast.
joe rogan
Blaming the Jews is a weird one.
ari shaffir
It is a weird one.
joe rogan
It's a weird one.
ari shaffir
It seems so antiquated.
joe rogan
That's your go-to thing is to blame the Jews.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Mexican taking our jobs is a lot more obvious.
joe rogan
But what jobs?
ari shaffir
I know, I know.
Not that they're right, but it's more like...
I don't agree with that.
Okay, I can see it.
But the Jews, it really is a throwback thing, right?
joe rogan
It's a weird one.
It's a weird one.
Because it's almost always there's some sort of intoxicant or some sort of psychological issue.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's always like when your default is go to the Jews.
unidentified
The Jews!
joe rogan
How much have the Jews had an impact on your life?
unidentified
I want to know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm not saying that some people haven't had bad situations with people that happen to be Jewish.
But I want to know, if we could have a chart, show all the people that rally against the Jews, find out how many Jewish people have actually had a negative impact on your life.
What is the numbers?
I bet the numbers would be pretty goddamn low.
ari shaffir
Mel Gibson would be like, the Jews are the ones who are holding my money back.
They're the producers.
joe rogan
Is that what he would say?
ari shaffir
Maybe, because I'm saying that's what the Jews he's come in contact with.
joe rogan
Didn't he do Passions of Christ and make some ungodly sum of money?
I think he did that on a ballsy move, though.
I think one of the things he did was he took ownership of the film, so he financed it.
ari shaffir
Passion Project.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
Passion Films.
joe rogan
I think that's the case.
If I remember correctly, The Passion of the Christ, he's a very religious guy.
And his father is too.
Was too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, right, right, right.
Nazi roots.
joe rogan
Very Catholic.
Oh, Nazi roots.
ari shaffir
Maybe I'm thinking of Kennedy.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I think you're thinking of Schwarzenegger.
Austria.
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't think he has Nazi roots either, but maybe someone in the family.
ari shaffir
Right, his dad.
Or grandfather.
joe rogan
His dad.
Yeah, somebody might have had some questions about the Holocaust.
I don't know if it was Mel Gibson's family.
Someone's family.
I don't know whose family it was.
I remember something.
I don't remember what it was.
So when he made Passion of Christ, he said, look, this means a lot to me.
I want to do this movie.
I'm going to just pump it.
And he had all that loot from Braveheart.
ari shaffir
And he put his own money in?
joe rogan
Pretty sure.
Is that the case?
jamie vernon
His production company spent $30 million to produce the show.
ari shaffir
Whoa, that's a lot of money!
That's more than I'm spending on Ari Shafir Ju, taping February 8th at the Skirball Center in New York.
unidentified
Get tickets at AriTheGreat.com right now for tickets.
joe rogan
That's a smooth segue.
Are you doing sets in town the week of that you're doing that too?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'll probably do other material those nights.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
You wouldn't want to run the set, like, constantly?
ari shaffir
I've been running it for so long, so many times.
joe rogan
That's a good feeling, huh?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It's just in groove.
I did it last night at the store.
I was, like, three days out.
I was, like, hey, give me a belly room.
And she was, like, I have a main room.
I was, like, whatever.
I'll be 50 people in there.
So, yeah, I'm just running the shit out of it all the time.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's nice.
That's a good place to be where you just have it down.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's nice.
The Skirball's a good place, too.
ari shaffir
Well, we talked about it, where some of these synagogues were like...
I was back and bending over too much to make it work in a synagogue.
It would look cool to do it there.
joe rogan
I was worried about the sound.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was worried about the height of the ceilings.
ari shaffir
This place was massive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Beautiful synagogue.
Oh, but...
Anyway, after agonizing over it, they came back a week later and were like, we don't want you to do it here.
So it didn't even matter.
But I already decided on the Skirball.
joe rogan
They probably Googled you.
ari shaffir
Wolf shot there.
She said they were good shows.
She really liked that place.
joe rogan
Oh, at the synagogue?
ari shaffir
No, no.
joe rogan
Oh, Skirball.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Yeah, so I'm excited about it.
I'm really excited about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Skirball's legit.
That's a spot that a lot of people perform at.
That's a time-tested spot.
You don't have to worry about that part of it.
ari shaffir
Cool part of town, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, doing something in a synagogue, man, who knows if it's going to work?
What kind of sound are you going to have?
What kind of echoes are there going to be?
Are the people going to get in the audience?
Is it going to be weird when it comes through on the television?
Is it worth it?
ari shaffir
Is it worth it?
That's what I had to agonize over.
What percentage worse might this be, the laughter, versus what do I gain from the look?
joe rogan
Two of the things you talked about that I think are very important.
One is to do it in New York.
I think that's huge.
It's a gigantic Jewish community.
ari shaffir
It's where the Jews in America are.
joe rogan
Boston is maybe second, but not as prominent.
New York is where it's at.
And then on top of that, that's where you perform most of the time.
ari shaffir
That's true, too.
I know these audiences.
joe rogan
And the Skirball?
Dude, come on, man.
You can't go wrong there.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm pretty excited about it.
joe rogan
It's perfect.
Because the theme, once you get past what the theme is, people just want to hear the material.
It doesn't matter if you're in a synagogue.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
ari shaffir
So that's what I did.
Yeah.
But that's what I did with this thing.
So I was like, I'm going to work out all this shit, this theme stuff in clubs in New York and LA. Just regular club sets.
Funny.
Follow Big J talking about some relationship in the crowd or follow Bobby Lee doing whatever.
And then just like, I'll just do this.
And it has to be as funny as those guys.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
With a theme.
I have to make people not notice a theme.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
It has to be stand-up.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It's just stand-up and then that theme is on top of it.
But since it is that, it's like, oh yeah.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
So how much material do you have outside of it?
ari shaffir
A year ago in Edinburgh, a year and three months or something like that, I did an add-on show after my last few shows were done, were sold out.
We did an add-on show in a tent and I was like, this will be the next specials material.
I just ran all my levels.
The problem is I go crazy with just this theme shit.
It's annoying after a while.
joe rogan
Right, you don't want to talk about one subject anymore.
ari shaffir
Bits come because your mind pops off.
You see something.
You see a homeless guy picking shit out of his ass.
You're like, alright, this is a bit.
Or that lady on Sunset.
Every comic at the store had a bit about that lady dancing in the street on Sunset.
Because they all felt like they just are, even though she was posted up there.
Things make your mind pop off.
So I still had that.
And I'm like, well, I've got to do this for a week.
I get rid of that.
And then when I'm done, I express myself, shit like that, then I get back to the material.
joe rogan
So November what?
What's the date?
ari shaffir
February 8th.
joe rogan
And it's arithegreat.com?
ari shaffir
arithegreat.com, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, tickets are available right now?
ari shaffir
Right now.
I'm telling everybody right now, today.
unidentified
That's why I came out to fucking LA. February 8th, is that what you said?
ari shaffir
February 8th, Manhattan, New York.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
That's plenty of time, you fucks.
Get your shit together.
ari shaffir
Get your shit together, make your plans.
joe rogan
And don't dose Ari as payback, either.
ari shaffir
No, that can't happen again.
joe rogan
I know you're plotting.
I know what we'll do right before a special.
Switch his water bottle around.
ari shaffir
Like if I had a water bottle.
That'd be crazy to get the exact same water bottle and switch it like an old spy.
joe rogan
Are you and Bert cool?
Did everything...
ari shaffir
Yeah, we're alright.
joe rogan
That's right.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we're fine.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It was a tough month.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was a rough one.
ari shaffir
It got weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I think the lesson is don't ghost anybody, but...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's definitely the lesson.
ari shaffir
You know, but I mean definitely do give free drugs to people, but...
joe rogan
But only if they ask for it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
That's more trouble than I thought it would be.
joe rogan
Plus, you didn't take into consideration that he's on medication either.
That's the big one.
ari shaffir
I did not take into consideration.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of issues there.
Oh, well.
You live, you learn.
ari shaffir
Everything worked out.
joe rogan
You live, you learn.
ari shaffir
I'm just never allowed in this home again.
joe rogan
It's his newfound zest for life that has given him this ability to put out that promo.
ari shaffir
What drugs have you been on since the...
Just pot.
Just pot?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Booze?
Oh yeah, booze.
Yeah.
Booze and pot.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I think me too.
No.
No, I took some Molly.
A little bit.
joe rogan
Just a little bit?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Just a dance on.
But that's it.
How do you feel?
joe rogan
I feel good.
ari shaffir
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
But I felt good sober, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
I enjoyed it.
unidentified
That's what I meant.
ari shaffir
How do you feel being sober for the month?
joe rogan
I enjoy it.
I enjoy that there's no choice.
Like, sometimes I wanted a glass of wine with a steak.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the reality is it doesn't matter.
I don't really need it.
It doesn't really make that much of a difference.
unidentified
But like, yeah, no, you don't need it.
ari shaffir
I mean, you can't enjoy the things out of life.
Like, we smoke pot here, but it's like, what if we don't have any pot?
It's like, it's all right, we'll still do the podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
ari shaffir
But we also really liked it.
joe rogan
Yeah, we like it, too.
The thing about alcohol, though, versus pot, is you pay a price.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You probably pay a price.
ari shaffir
Not for a glass of wine or two beers.
joe rogan
No.
You pay a small price for a glass of wine or two beers.
Small price.
It's very small.
You might not notice it.
Maybe it's a quarter.
ari shaffir
Worth it.
joe rogan
But if you have like three drinks, you pay a few dollars.
You're going to lose a feeling.
You're going to lose a step.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a fact.
It's a fact.
If you get hammered, if you drink like seven, eight drinks, you get drunk, the next day you're going to feel like shit.
You're not going to perform as well.
ari shaffir
That's true.
But also that day, if you're with friends drinking, it also feels really good.
joe rogan
Might be worth it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Have a good time with your friends, getting a little loopy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a good point.
ari shaffir
That's where I miss it the most.
Not in moments.
I didn't miss the drug.
I missed the drug enhancing a moment that it should have been.
Yankee games.
My brother coming to town.
A glass of wine at an Italian meal.
You know, where it's like, they want the wine.
Once I have the Italian meal, it's like, oh, wine would be great here.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, it's like, it's a technology.
They figured out how to alter your state predictably with a small glass of liquid.
ari shaffir
It's pretty great.
joe rogan
It's pretty amazing.
ari shaffir
The first few days I was struggling.
I passed by locked cabinets of liquor at hotels.
joe rogan
But it's like everything else, right?
You can abuse virtually everything that everybody enjoys, whether it's food or sex or anything, or electronics or anything.
Television.
There's some people that watch television 12 fucking hours a day.
They just sit in front of the TV and watch TV all day.
ari shaffir
What do you do to limit yourself on there?
On TV? No, on that fucking stupid thing.
joe rogan
I've been really good with it lately.
What I mostly do is, the one thing that I do trick myself with, like I said, is those Google stories.
I read news stories.
And then I wind up reading, like, scientific stories about, like, fucking space and all these different things.
A, because it's interesting, and two, because I'm getting to look at my phone.
So it's like, I'm tricking myself into saying, oh, this is, but this is, like, crucial information I need to have.
Like, I can get this at home.
ari shaffir
But also it's because of the feeling, I need to check this, I need to check this.
Tate said he got banned for three days on Instagram for something, you know, that shit happens.
He said...
During that time, he was banned, where he's like, oh, I'm banned for sure.
He checked his phone like 72 times, checked his Instagram.
He's like, no, I'm still banned.
Like, just reflexively, we end up going to that.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
ari shaffir
Because of the lights and colors or whatever.
I don't know, but...
joe rogan
It's not good for you.
ari shaffir
The parental control, it shuts it off.
After I use it for an hour, whatever you want to set it to.
My girlfriend put the code on there, so I can't override it.
Even if I need to, if I need to promote something big, I need to be on there all day, I would tell her to take it off.
Otherwise, once I hit her, it says, you've got five minutes left.
If you're going to make a post about a show, do it fucking now.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And then you're done.
joe rogan
Then it's over.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And so it's like...
And then I end up using it a little less because I don't want to waste that hour in case, let's say, I want to post something later.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Or I want to get on there.
So I want to save some time.
And then I end up only using it for whatever.
But...
I need that parental control.
joe rogan
It's very rare that I really do need to answer emails on my phone.
ari shaffir
Rarely!
And you can do it an hour a day and just get it all done.
Right, or do it on your computer only.
joe rogan
The only time is, like, say if you were in the middle of a deal, like you were about to sign a deal for your special and you're going back and forth with lawyers and all that.
ari shaffir
Yeah, February 8th, the Skirball.
joe rogan
The Skirball, February 8th, it's called G. AriTheGreat.com, yeah.
You can get tickets right now.
But if you were going to do that, that kind of makes sense.
You would check your phone during the day.
Right, if you have to.
But most of the time, no.
I check in in the morning just to make sure there's not some nonsense that I forgot I have to do during the day.
And then I try not to check my email at all until I start doing podcast ads.
ari shaffir
Okay, so one thing I would say for that is what I like is not checking it for the first, and I fail, first hour or two of the day.
joe rogan
That's good, too, right?
That's my best thinking time.
ari shaffir
Don't even look.
And I said at a time of 12, if I wake up at 9 or 10, great.
Wake up at 11, 30, whatever.
But until 12, don't touch it.
joe rogan
You know, my favorite thing to do, and I've only done this a couple of times, legitimately, is don't look at my phone at all and go right to yoga class.
ari shaffir
Great, and then your mind's racing.
Then your mind's racing.
Before I even see it.
joe rogan
Before I even see it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the whole night.
Instead of bogging it down and like, does this deal sound good for this club?
And what do you think for t-shirts?
It's just like, just let your mind wander when it's supposed to.
joe rogan
No one else?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Get high as fuck before yoga.
ari shaffir
Get high as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't look at your phone.
Get high as fuck before yoga.
You come out of there a different person from another dimension.
A different hole in the time-space continuum.
You just drop out of there.
ari shaffir
You start thinking.
joe rogan
Change your universe.
Change your life.
ari shaffir
You ever space out when you're doing a back-on-your-back thing and then all of a sudden you come to and you're like, not asleep, just out of it.
Everyone's standing up and you're like, oh, sorry.
Catch up.
How long was I out?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get zoned out, man.
You're messing with your consciousness when you're doing that.
You're holding those poses and breathing.
You're messing with your consciousness.
And I say that in a good way.
They did a new Netflix special about that Bikram guy.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't seen it, but I saw there's ads.
A lot of people are changing the name of their yoga class.
ari shaffir
I know the one I went to two years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just calling it Hot Yoga.
ari shaffir
Three years ago.
Yeah, she was like, yeah, because nobody wants to be associated with that.
They're hippies.
That guy's a full rapist.
joe rogan
He definitely has some issues.
ari shaffir
Why would that rape those women?
Women would pay a million dollars for one drop of my sperm.
joe rogan
One drop of my sperm.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Why would I rape?
joe rogan
One drop of my sperm.
Yogi Guru Predator.
I like how he has a bunch of Rolls Royces.
That's my favorite part.
And he does yoga with a Rolex on.
Holla.
ari shaffir
Do you think that's on his card?
Yogi Guru Predator?
joe rogan
Now it is.
ari shaffir
Now probably.
joe rogan
Now they probably put it on there.
He's a fucking character, man.
In the worst way possible, but he's definitely a character.
ari shaffir
Why the hell out there from that lady?
joe rogan
He's a thing, man.
When you're around a bunch of these freaky people...
I'll see that movie.
When you're around a bunch of these freaky people and everybody's half naked and you're the guy who's the one who teaches them how to do yoga.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You're the master.
joe rogan
You get to fuck.
ari shaffir
Dude, isn't it weird when you see somebody who went all in with yoga?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, it's weird.
ari shaffir
Like they shaved their heads.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
ari shaffir
They only wear the yoga pants.
Like that is their being.
joe rogan
What if that's what I started wearing yoga pants everywhere?
unidentified
Oh.
ari shaffir
I'd be like, oh, Joe went yoga Joe.
joe rogan
Well, I already wear a fanny pack.
What would be the problem?
ari shaffir
That's a far different world than a yoga Joe.
What?
joe rogan
With a Bikram t-shirt on.
If you're allowed to wear a Bikram t-shirt, you gotta wear it now, right?
ari shaffir
Quick, before that movie comes out.
joe rogan
I think the special's out, this Netflix documentary, I think it's out.
ari shaffir
Is that the new stand-up special?
joe rogan
People don't know about it yet.
ari shaffir
They're really going broad?
joe rogan
It's after Paul Rudd.
They just went right to Bikram.
One drop of my sperm.
Women spend one million dollars.
ari shaffir
I'd be like, show me one woman who spent a million dollars on your sperm.
You only get one drop?
That's all you get for a million?
You don't get a whole load?
joe rogan
I know someone who runs a yoga studio and that was the fucking final nail in the coffin.
ari shaffir
When he said that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
One drop of my sperm.
unidentified
They're like, alright, changing the name.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
But I think back when he started getting crazy, right?
How old is he now?
ari shaffir
78. Is that how old?
joe rogan
He's probably pretty fucking old, right?
240. Back when he first came here in the 80s, and they're like doing...
You remember girls wear like scrunchie socks, and it was...
You remember like Olivia Newton-John, Let's Get Physical?
unidentified
Let's get...
joe rogan
Physical!
They were taking aerobics classes, buying those Reeboks aerobics shoes with the Velcro.
Everybody had those.
ari shaffir
The socks had a little poofy ball in the back sometimes.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
The little poofy ball with the sock.
I forgot about that.
That was when that dude started slinging.
So he came over here from India.
ari shaffir
Shorts with leggings underneath.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
That's right.
ari shaffir
Shorts with leggings.
Tan colored leggings.
joe rogan
Yep.
So he came over here from India and started teaching and just letting the old snake out of the basket.
ari shaffir
Is that racist?
joe rogan
To make like Indian music sounds and say he took the snake out of the basket?
Insinuating his cock, but yet he's a snake charmer.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Because a lot of Indians are snake charmers.
joe rogan
I want to know if I'm racist there.
ari shaffir
You definitely got, joke-wise, you got two levels.
So joke-wise, you're clean.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's okay.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and the structure's great.
Is it racist?
Because that's the...
joe rogan
Because I make the noise, too.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Because if you say something about someone from China and you're going...
ari shaffir
Yeah, then racist.
joe rogan
People go, oh my God, you're racist.
ari shaffir
Okay, well, definitely I would say there is an argument for racist.
But now let's see how valid that argument is.
Yeah, maybe...
joe rogan
But that's not all Indians.
If you were super woke, you could go in on me.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you were really woke, you could take a swing.
It's like, you know who have fucking...
ari shaffir
That's the woke swing.
joe rogan
Do you know who fucking never, never gets stood up for?
It's fat white guys.
You can shit on fat white guys.
They're not even human.
Nobody gives a fuck about the way they feel.
That was me.
ari shaffir
I would say please do.
joe rogan
Oh, you're talking about Burt?
ari shaffir
No, I was not.
He's not fat anymore.
He's not obese anymore.
joe rogan
He lost a lot of weight.
ari shaffir
He's just overweight.
joe rogan
He lost a lot of weight.
unidentified
A lot of weight.
joe rogan
He looks good.
He looks very good.
ari shaffir
There's only one guy now who does not look good.
joe rogan
Tom?
Did you say Tom?
ari shaffir
No, I heard you say Tom.
joe rogan
I didn't say Tom.
ari shaffir
Wow, I don't remember even saying it.
joe rogan
I was asking a question.
He looks fine to me.
ari shaffir
Maybe you got a different filter.
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
He's bigger than Burt.
He's bigger than Burt.
joe rogan
Is he really?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Wow, Burt's winning now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I told Bert if he makes 205, he gets the belt.
ari shaffir
Oh, at any point.
joe rogan
I text any time.
I text him two weeks out.
I go, are you going to make the weight?
He's like, oh, I don't think so.
I've been on the road.
I go, come on, pussy.
How much do you weigh?
I go, dude, there's guys who weigh 235 on Tuesday and they fight on Saturday at 205. Yeah, you can cut that.
They cut the weight.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I would love to see the fucking fat foals hangover.
jamie vernon
Did you guys see this?
No, no, no.
This guy was...
This is a wrestler.
joe rogan
That guy's very big.
jamie vernon
Ranting in a ring.
I think he's in Australia.
joe rogan
What's he ranting about?
jamie vernon
He's like...
ari shaffir
Look, Big J's in the background.
jamie vernon
Talking shit to the crowd.
For those that are watching, you can't see this, but there's like 10, 15, 20 people there.
I just want to skip ahead to the end here.
joe rogan
What's happening?
ari shaffir
He's being the heel.
He's great.
jamie vernon
Oh, hold on.
joe rogan
What is he?
jamie vernon
There's a guy that yells out.
He calls him Tom Segura.
unidentified
I don't know if Steve Brown wants to bring hockey up on this broadcast.
jamie vernon
Sorry, I fucked up.
joe rogan
That's all right.
Play it back.
We'll find it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
No, I enjoy your failure.
unidentified
Keep going.
jamie vernon
Thanks.
ari shaffir
Have you guys heard of it?
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah, we heard of it when we watched them draw make-believe on the TV. They're pretty good.
Doug Gilmore's my favorite scorer!
Yeah, guys, you're watching a VHS. Doug Gilmore's not on the team anymore.
Hey, Tom Segura, wrap it up!
Oh, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
Hey, Tom Segura, wrap it up.
jamie vernon
Random rule for Canada.
joe rogan
That might not have actually been said.
It sounds like someone inserted that sound.
ari shaffir
Oh, maybe.
joe rogan
I'm not buying it.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, good point.
joe rogan
I know what they're doing.
They found some guy doing that and some other guy doing that.
Let me hear that again.
Play it again.
jamie vernon
That might be right.
ari shaffir
That might be crazy.
joe rogan
I'm from a real city.
It's called Toronto.
ari shaffir
Have you guys heard of it?
unidentified
Yeah, we heard of it when we watched Toronto Maple Leafs on the TV. They're pretty good.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's it.
Because you're still talking.
Here we go.
unidentified
Hey, how was it?
joe rogan
I don't buy that.
That sounds like that's in an echoey room.
That sounds like that guy did in his bathroom.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
His mom's like, why are you screaming down here, Jimmy?
ari shaffir
In the wind.
joe rogan
Why are you screaming, Jimmy?
I'm not buying it.
jamie vernon
It says no gimmicks.
joe rogan
Well, that's what I would say.
ari shaffir
It says this according to the website that it's on.
It says no gimmicks.
joe rogan
I would say no gimmicks as well.
That'd be a good way to do a good gimmick.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
The law is not strict on the no gimmicks claim.
joe rogan
Bro, that's a lonely road, right?
We were talking about the road of being a stand-up, traveling and doing stand-up.
Being a pro wrestler that nobody knows, like trying to make it on the circuit.
Like doing what that guy was doing.
That's rough.
ari shaffir
That's tough.
joe rogan
That's rough.
ari shaffir
Cole Cabana, you ever talk to him?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's like a legit wrestler wrestler.
Just on the road all the time.
joe rogan
It's hard, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is your friend Tommy still bowling professionally?
ari shaffir
No, his legs are shot out.
His knees are shot out.
joe rogan
From bowling?
ari shaffir
From bowling, yeah, I guess so.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
We used to be cavemen.
We used to be able to fight off Sabertooth Tigers and neighboring tribes.
ari shaffir
Dude, he was ranked fifth in the world in bowling.
This is how great stand-up is right now.
He was ranked fifth in the world in bowling, and he made $35,000 that year.
joe rogan
That's a good year.
That's a good year for a bowler.
There he is, with you behind him.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that always comes up on Reddit, because of that sign.
joe rogan
So, his knees are shot from bowling?
ari shaffir
I think so.
I don't know.
joe rogan
What do you do in bowling that makes your knees go?
ari shaffir
Let's see.
Let's try to wind it out here.
joe rogan
Okay, here we go.
Bar it.
jamie vernon
There's like that torque, I think, probably.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I guess.
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
jamie vernon
If you twist harder, you probably torque harder.
joe rogan
But you're on those slidey shoes.
ari shaffir
You're on the slidey shoes.
You slide in.
joe rogan
Maybe that's part of the problem, right?
Slidey shoes?
jamie vernon
You're trying to get grip with your muscles.
ari shaffir
I do know there's some pros that play into their 40s and 50s.
joe rogan
It seems like slidey shoes wouldn't be the way to go if I didn't know better.
ari shaffir
You don't want to stop short.
joe rogan
But I'm saying I do know that slidey shoes are the way to go because the pros use them.
They're not stupid.
But I would think that if you had more grip, you could wing the ball harder.
ari shaffir
Oh, I see what you're saying.
I think it's the movement they got going, the speed they got.
joe rogan
There's like a momentum and a whip.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So, yeah.
joe rogan
Let's watch some strikes.
jamie vernon
So, it almost all says it's arm injuries except for MCL. Oh, him?
joe rogan
He has arm injuries?
unidentified
No, no.
jamie vernon
Like, just common bowling injuries.
ari shaffir
The arm I can see throwing this out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know how many fucking Marines are laughing right now?
unidentified
Bowling!
They don't have the guts to step into the lanes.
joe rogan
Burrow fucking bowling!
unidentified
You've been to Afghanistan, but have you been to hard work lanes over on the third?
joe rogan
Ooh, that's a hard lane.
There's a lot of dips.
A lot of dips.
They don't grease up the rails.
unidentified
You know what it is?
The floor.
joe rogan
You know, balls will carve a groove.
You've got to find the groove.
ari shaffir
So he says, so here's how the tournament works.
You play the whole week, and the top five go into the tournament.
Starts with, fifth plays fourth, the winner of that plays third, the winner of that plays second, the winner of that plays first for the championship.
So if you're in first place for the week, you have to play one game.
If a lefty is in the fourth, fifth game, if that lefty wins, he's already set a groove that only he's going to be in.
Whereas the righty has to use the other guy's groove, and so it's like he's not set in his own, the lefty will go all the way and win.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And it's because of the oil on the road?
ari shaffir
It's because they've grooved up the fucking lane.
Their way exactly.
No one's fucked it up.
Two righties are like, I don't remember using each other's groove.
joe rogan
It's a great game for six-year-olds.
That's what it is.
It's like pool if you only broke the balls.
And people get mad at me.
How can you say that?
unidentified
Put boings to scale with the blah, blah.
joe rogan
They get so angry.
35k for number five.
ari shaffir
Yeah, what are you hoping for?
joe rogan
Just shut your mouth.
It's a child's game.
ari shaffir
They have roommates on tour.
joe rogan
My ball is 15 pounds.
I'd like to see a six-year-old throw it.
ari shaffir
They have roommates on tour.
The best guys have a roommate for the week.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have to.
ari shaffir
Dude, there are bowling groupies that are hideous.
Every industry has a groupie, and the bowling groupie is not great.
joe rogan
Every industry must have groupies.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where they're like, I know you from this scene.
joe rogan
Yeah, even ones you would think no fucking way.
ari shaffir
Bowlers!
joe rogan
Like, you used to think no fucking way for, like, guys who played video games, but now guys who play video games- But they have Ninja?
ari shaffir
For sure Ninja's getting his dick sucked.
joe rogan
Wow, right now?
ari shaffir
Yes, for sure.
jamie vernon
He's married, but there's other guys that you could say that for sure.
ari shaffir
Technically, your wife could suck your dick.
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I know it's foreign to a lot of men, but- She could do it.
She could do it if she really cares.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
She could do it if she really cares.
unidentified
You can get it if you really want, but you must try.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of money in it.
So once there's a lot of money in something, you get groupies.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
100%.
ari shaffir
But even not.
Well, you had pool groupies, didn't you?
Didn't you have lounge lasers that hung out there?
joe rogan
There was a few really hardcore drug addicts that would hang around the pool room and then some really lonely ladies.
And then there was a few girls who played pool and they would hook up with guys too.
ari shaffir
Because they saw these guys are the best.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was a few of those girls who would get really...
They would be pool players.
They'd be really into the pros.
They would hook up with the pros.
ari shaffir
Yeah, right?
And they'd be like, hang out, waiting to score with Tommy O'Goulson?
joe rogan
Yeah, that game ain't much better, man.
The only thing that saves pool is, well, there's some...
ari shaffir
Hustle games.
joe rogan
No, there's some tournaments to be played in America, some.
But in other countries, there's a lot of money.
There's big, like, they go to Qatar, and they play billiards in China, and you can make, like, real money in tournaments out there.
But you have to be, like, a Shane Van Boning, or, you know...
ari shaffir
It's a deaf one.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's top of the food chain.
You have to be like him.
There's a few of those guys.
Jason Shaw.
There's a few of those guys that are like just straight up killers.
They could travel the world.
ari shaffir
And they're fucking bitches.
All the time?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I would imagine if you're like an elite pool player and you're a handsome fellow, you'd probably get a little tail.
Get a few pool player gals.
ari shaffir
Maybe in other countries.
joe rogan
That's the thing about if you went to Asia, you might be like a god to them.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like in the Philippines, pool's huge.
Philippines, there's this guy Efren Reyes.
He's probably the greatest pool player of all time, and he's from the Philippines.
And that guy is a star over there.
He does commercials and all kinds of crazy shit.
Everybody knows him.
People see him on the street.
Yeah, it's like, pick like Tiger Woods.
Like how Tiger Woods is for golf?
That's how Efren Reyes is for pool.
Tiger Woods goes anywhere people know who Tiger Woods is.
If Efren goes anywhere in the Philippines.
He does commercials with Manny Pacquiao.
Manny actually plays really good pool.
Better than me.
He plays professional level pool.
ari shaffir
Yeah, how come you can say Filipinos are standardly way better at pool than us?
joe rogan
Because of the 1950s.
ari shaffir
But you can't say America is clearly the best comics in the world?
joe rogan
You can.
ari shaffir
Of course you can.
joe rogan
Well, some Americans are just as good, I mean pool players are just as good as Van Boney.
ari shaffir
Yeah, same thing.
Some, the top ones are like sure, but overall.
joe rogan
Overall, Filipinos have a lot of great pool players.
They have a lot of killers.
But there's a lot of killers over here too now.
There's killers from Europe.
There's a lot of killers from Europe.
Pool.
Pool's different.
But with stand-up, get the fuck out of here.
ari shaffir
You know why I think?
I think in England it came from like theater.
And here it came from like storytelling just like around a campfire.
joe rogan
Well, it came from a lot of variety shows, too.
Like Lenny Bruce used to do.
He used to do stand-up on variety shows.
ari shaffir
In between, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
A band would come out.
You ever watch Marvelous Mrs. Maisel?
They have it that way.
Someone comes out and they've got an act.
They do some kind of an act.
They have a fucking puppet act.
ari shaffir
And they introduce the band.
joe rogan
And then they introduce the band.
The band will come play a song.
And then Lenny Bruce will go on and do some stand-up.
You know what I mean?
And then, you know, that's how they did it back then.
They didn't necessarily have comedy clubs.
We talked about that yesterday with the Ice House, that the Ice House is the oldest comedy club technically, but it really didn't become a full-time comedy club until 1978, where it was a store.
Was it 78?
ari shaffir
It became full-time in 72. Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they were a full-time comedy club first.
ari shaffir
People kept saying it was older, but it wasn't a comedy club.
joe rogan
It's not really.
But it was a variety show.
They'd have magic and fucking bands and all kinds of stuff.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's why they say one of Mitzi's biggest decisions was going like, we're going all comedy.
We're not doing music, comedy, magic.
We're doing all comedy.
joe rogan
She was the best.
ari shaffir
People are like, you're out of your mind.
joe rogan
She was the best.
ari shaffir
What a crazy loon.
joe rogan
Thank God.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We needed her.
ari shaffir
You need some jazz in people's lives.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you needed her.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You needed her.
She knew how to do it, man.
She knew how to run a fucking comedy club.
ari shaffir
She let people fucking figure it out on their own.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She just wanted you to kill.
ari shaffir
She just wanted you to develop and become better.
joe rogan
Just be better.
And then she'd always find a good spot to put you.
In the beginning, she'd put you on early.
You get with a fresh crowd.
After a while, you develop a little promise.
She puts you on after hard people.
And if she liked you, every set, you're going to go after a murderer.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
Every set, you're going after murderers.
Murderers.
And then she would give you advice.
That wasn't funny.
ari shaffir
Thanks for the advice, lady.
joe rogan
That bitch, bro.
Stop doing it.
But every now and then, man, she'd throw me a gem to tell me how much she loves me.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
Just here or there.
Man, what a fucking abusive parent.
And then she'd give you a little piece of niceness.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I expected it.
I was, you know, 27 years old and I expected it going in.
I was happy just to talk to her.
ari shaffir
You got there when you were 27?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
26, really.
The first time I went, I was 26, yeah.
It was before that show Hardball.
I came out here with Brewer.
ari shaffir
He was on that show, too?
joe rogan
Yeah, Brewer was the mascot.
In the first episode, yeah.
He was a mascot of the opposing team, the Pied Pioneers, and he had a fucking flute and shit, and he got beat up by a giant baseball that was our mascot.
It was really funny.
Brewer.
Brewer's fucking hilarious.
Still is.
He's hilarious.
But he was out here with me.
We were doing that pilot, and it was like...
unidentified
I want to say it was like 93, somewhere around then.
joe rogan
Yeah, 93. Really?
Yeah, and we came to the comedy store, and we're just sitting in the back of the room watching that play.
I remember thinking, I can't believe I'm even here.
I can't believe this is really the comedy store.
And then maybe six months later, I was out here living because the show got picked up.
Maybe not even six months, probably four months.
You know, you do a pilot.
Pilot gets seen, got picked up, came back, did six episodes, and I was just hanging around the store.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
And that's when I got to meet Mincy.
ari shaffir
And she said you can perform there?
joe rogan
She said I could be a non-paid regular first.
ari shaffir
Non-paid.
joe rogan
I auditioned as a non-paid regular.
And no bullshit, I was there every fucking night.
I didn't have a life, man.
I had nowhere to go.
I didn't have any friends.
So all I would do was go to the comedy store after I worked.
So I'd work all day on the TV show.
I'd go home to my shitty Oakwoods apartment.
I had one of them Oakwoods apartments in Burbank.
You know one of those ones where it's a pre-furnished apartment?
ari shaffir
Four people were coming at her act for six months.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And then somewhere around episode three, I'm such a fucking genius, I figured this show's gonna take off, I'm gonna get a lease.
So I got a lease for a year, an apartment in North Hollywood, a real apartment.
And then the show got cancelled.
Immediately.
But it's good that I got that lease because I was going to move back to New York.
I did not like it.
unidentified
And you stayed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's what kept me.
I couldn't move.
Wow.
I don't remember how much it was, but I remember I had a pool table in the living room.
That was the number one thing that I did.
I got a place that was big enough for me to put a pool table in the living room.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
That was my prerequisite.
I'd walk out every apartment.
I'd 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. That's 5 feet with 4 on each side.
So it's a 9 by 5, right?
A good table is 4 1⁄2 by 9. So you want to give yourself like 15 feet width, and then you want to give yourself a solid 20 feet length.
So you measure out 5 on the front, 5 on the back, so you don't knock it with a stick.
ari shaffir
What an addict.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's what you look for.
joe rogan
Yep, that's what I look for.
ari shaffir
Wow.
That's crazy.
That's like me when I go to a place, I'm like, smoking's allowed, right, Pot?
And I'm like, why would you bring that up?
I'm like, because I want to know now or I'll just move on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I had a neighbor that got mad that I was playing pool.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
Probably late at night, too.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
He asked me to not do it until they don't use the living room because the floor was creaking.
And this guy was like the superintendent of the building.
I went, what?
I said, you don't like me walking upstairs?
And he said, well, you're walking around the pool table when you're playing pool.
I go, what if I just walked?
You don't like me walking?
Are you telling me not to walk in the living room because you can hear me walking?
What kind of floor is this?
ari shaffir
What do you hear?
joe rogan
It was a carpeted floor, too.
It wasn't like I had fucking cowboy boots and I was running around on a hardwood floor.
He said the floor creaks and it's annoying.
I'm like, wow.
What the fuck?
ari shaffir
Can you please not walk?
That sounds like a New York story.
joe rogan
That place was made out of cardboard, though.
ari shaffir
I could hear everything you do.
It's like, well, what am I going to tell you?
I'm still going to fuck.
joe rogan
I could hear the phone ring, and then I could hear the answering machine go off, and the person...
I could hear everything they said.
Every fucking thing they said.
And I didn't realize what a piece of shit the house was until we got an earthquake.
One day, I was in the apartment, and...
I don't know if you've ever been in a legit earthquake, but this was like a 5.5.
It was really the aftershocks of the big Northridge earthquake.
So this apartment just goes like this.
It didn't do anything that I thought it was going to do.
I felt like an earthquake, everything would shake.
ari shaffir
Yeah, like the movies.
joe rogan
It started moving back and forth.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's a big one.
joe rogan
The apartment was made out of a refrigerator box.
That's what it was like.
If I was inside a refrigerator box and you were outside, come on up, pussy.
That's what it was like.
The whole thing was just moving.
The walls were just moving.
I'm like, this place is made out of nothing.
This is made out of cardboard.
I remember thinking, God damn, you're vulnerable when an earthquake hits.
ari shaffir
When you feel the first one here, you're just like, whoa.
Because you feel little ones all the time.
It feels like a car's underneath you or a garage.
joe rogan
Bro, we're so overdue.
We're so overdue.
They said that one of the fault lines moved recently for the first time in 500 years.
ari shaffir
Dude, this is also from Myanmar.
joe rogan
That?
That's weed, bro.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
That's from Gino.
ari shaffir
Oh, all right.
joe rogan
That's from LA Speed Weed, son.
Oh, that's a Mike Tyson joint, actually.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's from Tyson's Weed.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They have those cigars like that there.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is not a cigar.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
They'll put you on Pluto.
Smoke that like a cigar.
ari shaffir
Mike Tyson Weed.
He goes for it, huh?
joe rogan
Mike Tyson's Weed.
Yeah, he goes for it.
He goes for it like he went for in boxing.
That's what he does with his weed.
jamie vernon
Speaking of weed, did you see the story about the NBA player that got suspended?
joe rogan
Yes!
ari shaffir
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
They suspended him for 10 games because he had an incident, a medical edible marijuana incident on a team playing.
ari shaffir
Conduct detrimental to the season, to the team.
unidentified
Oh...
jamie vernon
It's only an hour flight from Phoenix to LA, too.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that is hilarious.
What is he flying to LA? They suspended him for 10 games for that?
ari shaffir
Wait, what's Phoenix?
jamie vernon
I kind of think, I was looking at the military.
They don't want him on the team anymore, either.
unidentified
Why?
jamie vernon
I don't want to say he's a troublemaker.
I don't know what he's doing, but they're doing good.
joe rogan
You just said he's a troublemaker.
jamie vernon
They're doing good without him, and he's owed $24 million this year.
It's a whole different thing.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, they're trying to box them out.
jamie vernon
Potentially, that's what it sounds like.
ari shaffir
Yeah, saving money on those 10 games, too.
You don't have to pay them for those 10. Maybe someone dosed them.
Save one-eighth.
jamie vernon
Two million.
joe rogan
Maybe someone dosed them, Ari.
ari shaffir
Dude, people have been asking me all the time.
I was on Halloween.
I went dancing.
I went having fun, you know?
And on the way out, somebody recognized me, and they were like...
People started yelling, like, Ari!
Ari's like, hey, what's up?
They're like...
Okay, we're all fucked up, dude.
They're like, dose me, Ari!
unidentified
Dose me!
Dose me!
joe rogan
Someday that'll be funny, Bert.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we were at the bar, and some girl was there, and I was ordering a drink, and then she just goes like, so she had her beer, and she just like, going like that to me, and I'm like, excuse me, and then she was smiling, and I was like, alright, that's very funny.
joe rogan
You know what I'm picturing right now?
I'm picturing Bert with headphones on running somewhere on the road listening to us right now.
unidentified
So funny, guys!
joe rogan
Someday it'll be funny, Bert.
ari shaffir
Someday.
joe rogan
Right now it's not funny.
ari shaffir
Bert, you're one of the three of us who's not obese.
Just be happy about stuff.
unidentified
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I'm not obese.
I'm just overweight.
ari shaffir
No, you're now not obese.
I saw that picture you posted on Instagram.
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
You were three pounds away from not being obese, and you went down.
joe rogan
Oh, so 98 is...
What is obese?
What's the number?
ari shaffir
Check out.
Pug in his height, 5'4".
joe rogan
5'2".
ari shaffir
And his weight, what?
joe rogan
5'8".
Well, I'm around 200 pounds right now.
ari shaffir
BMI calculator.
Oh, what'd you got down to less than that before, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, I started drinking again.
ari shaffir
Wow, that's quick.
unidentified
I got down to 195. 195. There you go.
jamie vernon
Sight does this sometimes.
It doesn't let me on it.
joe rogan
Cannot be reached.
Oh, the government doesn't want to know if I'm obese.
unidentified
There you go.
jamie vernon
That's all about it.
I'll do this one.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Put in me...
Oh, it does the age, too.
joe rogan
Oh, that's...
Don't...
That doesn't make any sense.
Why is it a matter of the age?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's a...
joe rogan
I've never seen the age...
Change the height.
It's not...
I'm not 5'10", I'm 5'8".
jamie vernon
Right.
unidentified
And change the weight to 200. That's going to be obese again.
joe rogan
I want to see what that is.
Calculate it.
ari shaffir
Obese plus one.
Wait, 126. 164. That has your age in there, too.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
No, wait, that's normal weight.
joe rogan
Normal weight for the range is 121 to 164. Yeah, but what's just overweight?
ari shaffir
Put in 187. I love this.
I love the BMI calculator.
joe rogan
Overweight.
ari shaffir
Overweight.
190. What would you have to get to to be overweight?
jamie vernon
Anything went over 165 is going to be overweight.
joe rogan
Anything over 165 is overweight.
ari shaffir
No, no, I want to see the difference between overweight and obesis, where that line is.
Put in 190. I think 190 means you got it.
joe rogan
Okay, I can make that.
190 is I'm just overweight.
195?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
Come on, bitch.
joe rogan
Okay, so 195, I'm good.
I got down there.
unidentified
Oh, 199. Okay, that's where it changes.
ari shaffir
So Burt is now not obese anymore.
joe rogan
Where the rubber hits the road is 197?
ari shaffir
197. If you get to 197, you are overweight.
joe rogan
Okay, I'm overweight.
ari shaffir
Burt has achieved that.
joe rogan
I'm just overweight.
I fluctuate.
It all depends on what time I weigh myself, too.
ari shaffir
Use me in the morning.
joe rogan
It's easy for me to stay around 195. I could do that right now.
ari shaffir
Great.
joe rogan
Or I can pasta it up.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I got fasted up.
joe rogan
It's just so hard to be consistent.
Like, with workouts, it's so hard to put in, like, the real consistent fat-burning time.
ari shaffir
You're so muscular, though.
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Muscular.
ari shaffir
I don't know how you lift all that weight around.
joe rogan
I do it.
I force myself.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I understand deterioration that comes with aging.
It's one of the most important things for your health as you get older to lift weights.
It's very important.
Muscle mass has some sort of correlation between health and muscle mass when you get older.
They say that you should do some resistance exercises and weight-bearing exercises just to keep your bone density and your muscles strong.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
My thought is like...
ari shaffir
You're bigger.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Sorry, what was your thought?
joe rogan
Well, my thought is, use this fucking thing while you got it.
Because you don't see a lot of 70-year-old dudes that can work out hard.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So what's the point?
The point is like, don't work out hard when you're 50, so that when you're 70, you're still alive.
Like, what is that?
ari shaffir
Oh, but you like working out?
joe rogan
I'm fucking going for it, man.
I'm going for it, Ari.
I like being exhausted.
It makes me feel better.
I like those 90-minute yoga classes.
I like running hills.
I like kickboxing.
I like jiu-jitsu.
I like going hard.
I like going hard.
When I can't go hard anymore, I'll stop.
Right now, I can still go hard.
ari shaffir
It's amazing that we're friends because I really enjoy the not moving.
We're really into different things.
I don't know how we've hit it off.
joe rogan
I enjoy not moving too.
I enjoy not moving, but I've got caveman jeans, dude.
There's something inside me.
I got a squash.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're like part wild.
joe rogan
Well, I try to be as nice as possible, but there's definitely some shit in me, especially from my childhood, all my childhood.
I grew up fighting in martial arts tournaments.
That is not a good way for your brain to develop with violent combat sports every day of the week from the time you're 15 to the time you're 22. That's not good.
It's just, you can do it with proper guidance and become a nice person, and I'm not doubting you can.
But when your whole life is about kicking people unconscious...
For years.
It's only about that.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's also the time when you're going through puberty.
That's also the time where you're learning about life.
Yeah.
So for me, it's like that door's always open.
You gotta throw water on that fire all the time.
You gotta get out there with the hose every day.
It doesn't matter if you feel like it or not.
Just don't let that fire grow.
Yeah.
Don't open up the door to the basement.
ari shaffir
Do you ever just want to strangle somebody in life?
joe rogan
No.
No, remarkably not.
ari shaffir
I do.
joe rogan
That's also because I do it.
If you do jiu-jitsu or lift a lot of weights, beat up the punching bag, punching bag is probably the best.
ari shaffir
But you don't even think sometimes you're like, as you pass somebody who cuts you off in traffic and just like way too close, you're not like, I could kill you.
joe rogan
Well, if someone was talking shit and getting mean to me, it's very nice to know that you can fuck people up.
It's very nice to know.
It's very nice.
If you see some guy, like some average body dude who thinks he's a badass because he talks shit, he's mean and stupid, then he might take a swing at you.
And you see one of those guys.
It's very good that you are the one who gets to decide what happens.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be nice.
And you can teach someone a very, very severe lesson and let them know, hey, motherfucker.
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
There's people like me out here.
I'll break both your arms and leave you here.
ari shaffir
That would be so badass.
joe rogan
Just snap them both.
unidentified
Crack.
joe rogan
Crack.
Good luck.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
joe rogan
Good luck, fuckface.
Hope you don't lose them.
There's a lot of mean people out there.
I'm a nice guy.
I'm nice.
So, if I run into a mean person, I want to be the one who gets to decide what happens.
I want to be the one who gets to decide if somebody gets hurt.
There's just too many people out there that'll just take sucker punches at people and hurt people.
I see it all the time online, right?
I'm sure you see it.
There's so many videos of people hitting people and doing fucked up things to people for no reason.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, sucker punches?
Remember the knockout videos?
joe rogan
Dude, remember?
They knocked on an old lady.
There was an old lady that was waiting in line at a grocery store and somebody punched her.
ari shaffir
They were just like, knock out!
And then punched her?
joe rogan
I don't remember it.
I just remember a video of some kid hitting an old lady.
ari shaffir
There's always one person who takes it too far.
joe rogan
It was a horrible one of some kids.
They knocked out this guy as he was getting off of a subway.
I think it was in Chicago.
And just cracked this guy.
And he fell face first out cold on the concrete.
Bounced off the concrete.
I was like, oh my god.
And the guy was old too.
He wasn't a healthy person.
Like that is something that can literally change the rest of your fucking life.
These kids are just doing it and laughing.
And jumping on a train.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There was a lot of people doing things like that for a while.
ari shaffir
Fucking Harvard kids.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
It's all those Yale fucks with all their money and their fucking fancy grades.
They want to rebel.
They go out and crack old people.
ari shaffir
I see people studying at NYU all the time.
It's so weird.
I look at them in the library.
joe rogan
Why is it weird?
ari shaffir
It's just like a different time of your life.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
ari shaffir
People are like studying all the time.
joe rogan
Right.
The grind.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's just like, I don't know, their college just looks like they have the whole world ahead of them.
It just looks so fucking enviable.
Just learning.
joe rogan
Well, it is in some ways, but it's also like this is a weird time to go to school.
ari shaffir
Yeah, my friend's a teacher at a liberal arts college.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Good luck with that.
ari shaffir
She's like, people just aren't very happy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's all about change and progress.
joe rogan
Social justice.
ari shaffir
Social justice.
And you can't just have, like, a fun time.
It has to be for a reason.
joe rogan
What happened there?
ari shaffir
What happened to having an 80s night party?
joe rogan
Can't do that.
It's cultural appropriation.
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
It's culturally appropriating people who lived in the 1880s and had to suffer with no internet.
ari shaffir
That's right.
We had it hard, you motherfuckers.
But I just mean, not in terms of who they're offending, but just in terms of they have to be fighting against something.
And so it's such a terrible existence.
joe rogan
Are you allowed to dress up as a Civil War soldier if you're from the North?
You can't be a Confederate soldier.
Are you allowed to dress up?
ari shaffir
You can't be a Confederate soldier because that harkens something.
joe rogan
Harkens.
ari shaffir
Harkens.
joe rogan
You can definitely be a Union soldier, right?
You could be Ulysses S. Grant.
ari shaffir
That's another one I could see going both ways.
I could see somebody going, that reminds me of the Civil War, which is slavery, so that's hurtful.
And someone else could be like, no, I'm honoring the people who fought for freedom.
And then they could go back and go, why is it only the white experience to be able to fight for freedom?
joe rogan
Do you realize that if you...
Went back in time.
If you were around the Civil War, you'd be a giant.
You'd just run over people and stomp them.
ari shaffir
Because they're all shorter back then?
joe rogan
They were so tiny.
Nobody had good food.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
In the 1860s, I think the average size for a man that was in the army was like 125 pounds.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
I could definitely be one of those doctors.
I'd be like, cut it off.
Amputate.
Cut it off.
joe rogan
Yeah, those doctors had it made.
Nobody made it.
ari shaffir
Cut it off.
Doctor, it's a bloody toe.
Cut it off.
joe rogan
Enough.
It could get a disease.
We could all die.
ari shaffir
You got these...
joe rogan
Glass tips.
ari shaffir
Glass tips.
You put them on there?
joe rogan
No, they came with it.
ari shaffir
It's more wasteful than a stoner.
jamie vernon
The third tallest average in the world at the time was 5'7".
During the Civil War for an American man.
ari shaffir
Third tallest average?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What does that mean?
joe rogan
That means the first average is like 6 feet tallest.
Like the tallest average.
Average tallest person.
Third tallest was 5'7".
ari shaffir
I don't understand what you mean.
joe rogan
The average.
Like if there's an average, what's the average, the tallest average height?
I got the peak.
What is it?
Is it 6'5"?
Yeah, average.
The average for the people that are alive.
ari shaffir
So what year would that be?
jamie vernon
1866, Civil War time period.
ari shaffir
The average is 5'7".
joe rogan
That was the third highest, third highest height average.
ari shaffir
That we've ever had?
joe rogan
No, during that time.
ari shaffir
What do you mean that was the third highest?
joe rogan
The people that lived during that time, during 1866. What do you mean that was the third highest average?
Average.
So if you had first highest average...
ari shaffir
What does that mean first highest average?
joe rogan
Well, the average height of people.
What is the highest?
jamie vernon
Like, for instance, England could have been higher than...
joe rogan
No, you could have percentages.
Like, you have 30...
The top 30th percentile of 60...
ari shaffir
90 people.
joe rogan
Say if you only have 90 people, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It's just the average.
joe rogan
30 of them are 6'1 and above...
30 of them are 6'1 to 5'10.
30 of them are 5'7 to 5'10.
ari shaffir
No way.
That's not what that means.
You don't have a third highest average.
What are you choosing the 30, 30, 30?
It's just the average.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
ari shaffir
The average height.
joe rogan
Right, but the number of humans, the overall number of humans.
See what I'm saying?
That's why I broke it down to 90, right?
So you have three groups if you have 90 people.
ari shaffir
If it was the third highest average, we're the third tallest in the world.
joe rogan
But they're even.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
unidentified
No.
jamie vernon
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Stop.
I got this.
ari shaffir
The third percentile?
joe rogan
Listen, they're even.
If we have 90 people, do you know what I said?
30 and 30 and 30. If that's what we have, then that's obviously...
ari shaffir
The third highest average.
joe rogan
They're almost even.
In the numbers that are represented by each individual category of height.
So it's 5'10 to 6'2 is one group that's 30 people.
ari shaffir
Why those 30?
joe rogan
Because you have...
unidentified
Why 30?
joe rogan
I'm just saying this so you can understand what the third highest percentage means.
It's based on the number of overall people.
So if there's 200...
ari shaffir
And there's only three percentage groups?
Are there five or ten?
joe rogan
Instead of 90 people, let's say there's 90 million people.
Okay, well 30 million of them are 5'10 to 6'1.
ari shaffir
But what's the fifth highest percentage?
joe rogan
Well, we'd have to find that out.
But the third highest percentage was 5'7", which means that out of these millions of people that were alive back then...
ari shaffir
So the top third was average this, the second third averaged this, and the third third averaged that?
That's such a confusing stat.
No fucking way.
jamie vernon
You might be confused on the word third.
It's not a third.
It's third place.
ari shaffir
Third place for average male in America.
joe rogan
That's why you're not getting it.
jamie vernon
Now we're 37th as of today.
Who's 37th?
Americans, United States.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
But you're talking about the average height.
Was that for America in 1866?
jamie vernon
American soldiers were tall by the standards at the time amongst the world.
ari shaffir
Third highest country.
joe rogan
But people were so tiny back then that third highest height, the third highest category was 5'7".
ari shaffir
No, we were just the ranked third country.
jamie vernon
Of all the average heights, I'm confused on why you guys are not on the same page here.
I think you're both saying the same thing.
ari shaffir
No, I'm saying we ranked third in country.
He's saying the third grouping of people averages 5'7", which is like, what grouping would that be?
joe rogan
I thought you were saying average height of people in 1966, the third average height of people was 5'7".
Is that what you're saying?
ari shaffir
Wait, wait, wait.
Is this what you're saying?
Is America ranked third of all the countries?
jamie vernon
Yes.
ari shaffir
That's what it is.
And we were average height 5'7".
jamie vernon
At the time, the average height of a male was 5'7", the third tallest males in the world.
Today, it is 37th.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's a confusing stat.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it is.
We rank third of all the countries.
Americans were 5'7", on average.
joe rogan
But the average height in 1866 was 5'7".
Dude, I guarantee you that's food.
Nobody had any goddamn food.
jamie vernon
And women were 5'3".
joe rogan
How often do you think people starved to death back then?
ari shaffir
Probably a lot.
joe rogan
It probably is a lot.
unidentified
Oh, what a terrible way to go.
joe rogan
Because people starve to death today.
And if everybody's that little and it's the same genes, how the fuck is in a hundred years plus, what is it, 150 years, how do people get so much bigger?
How do you get football players?
unidentified
That's great.
ari shaffir
Monsanto.
Thank you, Monsanto.
No one gives it up for them.
No one has some good stuff they're doing.
joe rogan
When you stand next to someone like Alistair Overeem or someone like that, and he's from Holland, a big old Dutch dude.
How do you get that?
How does someone get that big?
ari shaffir
Those are the Vikings, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Rico Verhoeven.
He's the glory heavyweight kickboxing champion.
ari shaffir
It's breeding.
joe rogan
He's fucking giant, dude.
It's breeding.
ari shaffir
That's how you get that.
joe rogan
He's a giant Viking.
ari shaffir
The tallest fucked adult.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ari shaffir
Make the giant.
joe rogan
That's how you get a Brock Lesnar.
That shit isn't magic.
It's real simple.
The Conquerors fuck all the hottest women, and then they make babies, and then in 2015, you get that guy.
ari shaffir
That's basically what it is!
joe rogan
That is basically what it is, man.
ari shaffir
You have German Shepherds and Chihuahuas and you have that guy and you have Redman.
joe rogan
That's to me why CRISPR is so fascinating.
What's CRISPR? CRISPR is gene editing technology that they're currently using on live human beings now.
They're doing the first test now on live human beings.
Yeah, it's gene editing technology they came up with.
Boy, I know I'm going to butcher this, but it's a tool that they recognize that bacteria carry certain signals, and they figured out how to edit genes using what they learned from how bacteria carry these signals.
I know I'm butchering this, but they're getting better and better with the tools, and they're getting to a point where they're able to isolate certain genes, like in China, They were able to give people HIV avoidance, resistance to HIV, but it also had some sort of a positive effect on their intelligence.
Was it two for one?
Yeah, it was a bunch of weird...
Those are both good.
I think that's speculated, but there's a bunch of weird chain reaction things they're not entirely certain of.
That's why they're saying it's unethical to just experiment on people, but they're doing it right.
ari shaffir
You have your ethics.
I'm going to have a super kid.
joe rogan
You're going to have a super kid.
Someone's going to have a goddamn Incredible Hulk kid.
ari shaffir
Enjoy your ethics while my kid fucking smashes your village.
joe rogan
Well, once a country decides they're going to pull the trigger on super people...
ari shaffir
Everyone else has to keep up.
joe rogan
Dude, do you imagine what it's like...
ari shaffir
The troops?
The 6'20 troops?
joe rogan
What if all porn by the year 2050 is Chinese guys with giant hogs?
It's all because that's all they are.
ari shaffir
So that's not a world I want to live in.
joe rogan
Every Chinese guy is seven foot tall and they all have a giant hog.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
They're like, we're sick of this.
joe rogan
Revenge.
ari shaffir
We're sick of it.
Now we have the biggest ones.
joe rogan
Revenge.
They're all seven feet tall.
ari shaffir
How's it feel now?
joe rogan
Giant Brock Lesnar bones and huge hogs like 12-year-old kids' legs.
And they're just banging everything that moves.
They're just fucking their way through the world.
I mean, if one country pulls the trigger and they decide they're going to make super people, everyone would have to catch up.
But it's almost like the internet, right?
If we said, hey, we can't allow people to communicate openly and freely.
We can't allow an even distribution of all the information in the world.
It's just too much power that we're just giving away to people.
We've got to stop this.
We've got to make this only for a few people.
If they did that, the world would fucking be a totally different place.
But they didn't do that.
And if someone doesn't stop them before they make super people, if they say, listen, we can't do the super people because then everyone's going to be a super person and no one's going to have body issues because everyone's going to be perfect.
We can't live like that.
ari shaffir
They'll find ways.
joe rogan
We'll find other ways to hate you.
ari shaffir
They'll find like your eyebrows are too big.
joe rogan
I don't like the way your nostrils flare when you get mad.
And then everybody would be a super person.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that'd be great.
joe rogan
That's 100% possible.
That's within 100 years, they're probably going to be able to engineer most things about people, unless something catastrophic happens to us.
jamie vernon
Do you remember that Van Damme movie?
joe rogan
Which one was that?
ari shaffir
Universal Soldier?
jamie vernon
No, Universal Soldier.
joe rogan
Is that what it was about?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I was just like looking up that thing that genetically augmented soldiers with enhanced self-healing abilities and superior strength.
joe rogan
Once again, Jean-Claude Van Damme ahead of his motherfucking time.
He had a scene in Time Cop.
Do you remember there was like a scene where he went back in time with a machine gun and was fucking people up?
Like in the Civil War days or something like that?
Do you remember that?
Or somebody else did.
jamie vernon
Didn't see that movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Somebody else did.
That's what it was.
Somebody else in Time Cop was like a bad cop, I think, that went back and did bad things.
They were like going back and stealing gold and shit and coming back with the gold.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's the guy he's going after.
joe rogan
Ah, that's right.
So that dude, see if you can find the video.
jamie vernon
He's in Civil War in Georgia.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Civil War.
This is fucking great.
Because I've always thought, like, man, how cool would it be to go back in time, like, to the...
Any time in the history of the Spartans and see somebody show up out of nowhere with a machine gun.
So he's asking these people...
Asking for the gold, and they pull out their gun, and he just fucking guns them down.
Two fists with machine guns, laser beams.
Didn't shoot the horses, though.
Interesting.
Amazing accuracy.
jamie vernon
Very good.
Must have trained.
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably trained.
Didn't look like it, though.
Didn't look like he had real solid tactical training with the use of that, but that was that scene.
I always thought that would be a cool scene in a movie.
ari shaffir
Dude, what are our lives?
We sit here and talk.
unidentified
Talk shit.
ari shaffir
And everybody...
It's like, that's our jobs now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And then you just do stand-up at night.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
We just have our own fucking stupid radio shows.
joe rogan
Did you just do acid?
What'd you do?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You make ads.
You pay your rent off your fucking ads.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's amazing.
It's way better than a job job.
ari shaffir
Oh my god!
joe rogan
When people ask me why do I keep telling people to do it, that's why.
ari shaffir
To do what?
joe rogan
To do podcasts.
And people, you told too many people to do podcasts.
unidentified
Why?
ari shaffir
So there's more choice?
You fucking elitist cunt.
joe rogan
Don't be silly.
Everybody should do this.
If you're listening to me and you're upset that I'm saying that, it's probably because you need to do your own podcast and you know I'm right.
ari shaffir
That's just amazing.
joe rogan
Not everybody should do a podcast.
ari shaffir
All right, well then shut up.
unidentified
Don't.
ari shaffir
Relax.
joe rogan
Not everybody should be, but a lot of people could.
A lot of people could.
It's a viable job option.
That's all I'm saying.
It's a job option you can control yourself.
Just because you think everybody can fucking do it.
unidentified
You got lucky.
joe rogan
You got in early.
All those things are true.
ari shaffir
You won't be this big, but you'll still have a fun time.
joe rogan
Anything can happen.
ari shaffir
You just sit around talking shit and you fucking record it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And this is also a lot like the internet, and nobody saw this coming.
Nobody thought the biggest broadcast show was going to be something that someone just does on their own.
ari shaffir
Yeah, uh-uh.
joe rogan
You know?
Look at these Logan Paul guys.
That guy just fought.
He had a boxing match that was the headline.
ari shaffir
The one that found a dead body?
joe rogan
Yes, that guy.
It was the headline of an event at the Staples Center.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
He fought?
joe rogan
Yes, on DAZN. Live streaming on DAZN. Whoa.
I bet a lot of people watched it too.
I wonder how many people watched that thing.
ari shaffir
On DAZN? What does that mean?
joe rogan
DAZN, you know what that is?
It's a streaming app.
It has all the big major fights on it.
A lot of the big boxing matches like Tyson Fury's fights.
Is Canelo Alvarez on that, too?
I think he is.
There's a lot of top-level...
Andy Ruiz, the heavyweight champ, he's on that, too.
So all these guys, and it's like X amount per month.
I don't remember how much it costs, but you can watch the fights on your phone.
It's fucking great.
All the Bellator fights.
You can watch all the Bellator fights on your phone.
But they have that with the USP, too.
UFC has that ESPN Plus app.
Same thing.
And then they have some boxing matches, too.
ari shaffir
That's cool if you watch those because then you could like, if you have to miss one, just tune in.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
Streaming is the shit.
I get home from a gig and if it's a UFC that I didn't see, as long as I stay the fuck away from my phone, I have no idea what happened.
I go home, plot my fucking feet up, watch the fights after the shows.
Oh, it's wonderful.
ari shaffir
Dude, this, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
This phone is great.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you got a phone phone.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, you can watch so much stuff on this.
joe rogan
Oh, you can watch so much stuff.
ari shaffir
The baseball playoffs?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You can watch everything.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I missed so much in five years.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Oh, what are these glasses?
jamie vernon
11,000 people watched the stream this way on this guy's glasses.
ari shaffir
Off this guy's glasses?
joe rogan
No way.
jamie vernon
Reflecting it onto Twitch or something like that.
ari shaffir
No way.
jamie vernon
Or YouTube, maybe.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'm trying to find the actual numbers.
I haven't found it yet.
ari shaffir
11,000?
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
What a crazy way to show a fight.
Does he get extra credit for that?
jamie vernon
He gets coolness credit.
joe rogan
Coolness points.
ari shaffir
For sure.
joe rogan
But...
Like, can he get in trouble for that?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I mean, he's rebroadcasting.
You're not supposed to do that.
ari shaffir
I know, but this is a whole art project.
I say it's fucking allowed.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's an interesting take.
ari shaffir
He's making it new enough.
You're not really watching that for the actual action.
joe rogan
But you do want to see what happens.
ari shaffir
Sure, that's part of the art project.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's stealing.
ari shaffir
I disagree.
Artistic license.
joe rogan
What's next?
What do you see coming?
I think AGI glasses.
ari shaffir
What is that?
joe rogan
AGR. Augmented reality.
AGR. Why don't I even make up that acronym?
jamie vernon
Apple one just got pushed two years.
So they were rumored to come out recently sometime soon.
But yeah, they're just pushed to 2022 right now.
Oh, those silly people.
I don't know if it's for Siri specifically, but Alexa built-in glasses now.
They're like sunglasses that have all time built-in.
While you're wearing it, you can talk to Alexa.
That's too much.
ari shaffir
It's too much.
unidentified
Fuck off.
joe rogan
They need to take some Russian scientists, they need to bring them to Steve Jobs' grave, and bring them back to life.
unidentified
Fuck off.
joe rogan
We need to reinvigorate him, reanimate him, and have him run Apple again.
From the grave.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
With no soul.
Just ruthless.
ari shaffir
He was the best at it.
unidentified
Demands!
ari shaffir
He was the best.
unidentified
Demands!
Innovation!
joe rogan
To some giant robot nuclear.
ari shaffir
You can't record everybody.
It's fucking bullshit.
You can't have a fucking thing that's going to record you.
I can't decide that for people around me.
That should be totally illegal.
joe rogan
It should be bullshit, but it's going to happen.
ari shaffir
Fuck that.
joe rogan
They almost did, man.
ari shaffir
No one signed up for this.
We didn't sign up for this.
The rest of us didn't sign up for it, and we're still having to deal with it.
joe rogan
That's true.
Do you remember those Google glasses?
unidentified
Yes!
ari shaffir
And we were all like, fuck, take those off.
People got beat up.
They're like, get that shit out of here.
It's like having a cell phone in someone's face the whole time.
No one likes that.
Nobody likes that.
joe rogan
That's not cool.
ari shaffir
And just people just have that all the time.
No one feels safe.
No, that should be illegal.
They should not let that be.
joe rogan
And no one could tell if you had it recording or not, right?
ari shaffir
No, exactly!
And didn't sign up for it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You want to do it around your house, that's fine.
That shit should be illegal.
joe rogan
But what do you do if China, with their super dick dudes, all of a sudden has glasses?
If Huawei gets into the digital glasses company...
ari shaffir
You do that over there.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
What if they bring him over here and we don't even know it because we're so fucking ignorant because we lost just like the stem cell race.
We got behind the curve.
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe.
That's always a good one that people like to say.
Well, we got behind the curve with the stem cells.
Joe, let's smoke some DMT. Right now?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't have any here, but...
ari shaffir
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
That's not a thing to do to make a good podcast.
ari shaffir
You don't think so?
joe rogan
No, it'd be 30 minutes of boring.
KSI vs.
Logan Paul had more pay-per-view buys than Anthony Joshua vs.
Andy Ruiz, said Eddie Hearn.
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
I'm reading it had about a million or maybe more.
joe rogan
That's a lot for a streaming service.
ari shaffir
He has a lot of people coming.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a lot.
I didn't know that you'd get that many for a streaming service.
The thing is, so many people have these streaming services now.
So many people do.
jamie vernon
This says 1.2 million.
joe rogan
That's a lot, man.
unidentified
That's a lot.
joe rogan
That's huge.
jamie vernon
Oh, I'm sorry.
The first fight did that.
This one got more?
ari shaffir
Wait, he fought twice, Logan Paul?
jamie vernon
They did it a year ago.
It was an amateur fight that time.
ari shaffir
And this was a professional fight?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was a professional six-round fight.
And it was the headliner of a card where Billy Joe Saunders fight.
Billy Joe Saunders is one of the best fighters in the world.
He's an elite fighter, world champion.
He defended his title on the undercard of two YouTube guys fighting.
ari shaffir
Now, how much of an insult is that?
joe rogan
For him, I'm sure he's just like, I'm getting paid.
Who gives a fuck?
ari shaffir
I'm getting views too, more views.
joe rogan
It's good for him.
ari shaffir
Wow, that's crazy.
joe rogan
So people can see what a killer he is.
ari shaffir
It's all about the fucking dollar.
Nobody gives a shit about the art.
joe rogan
Dude, there are two YouTubers fighting.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no art.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, there's some art to it, right?
It's a creation.
There's some drama.
A lot of shit's going down.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
But I'm saying the other guy is a fucking...
joe rogan
Billy Joe Saunders?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But for him, people don't know who he is.
You didn't know who he is.
ari shaffir
I do not.
joe rogan
Now you do.
See?
It's like it's good.
ari shaffir
I won't know tomorrow.
joe rogan
And he won by knockout.
He won by knockout.
So it was a good showcase for him.
He's a vicious boxer.
ari shaffir
He should have challenged Logan Paul next.
joe rogan
Oh, he'll kill Logan Paul.
ari shaffir
He should be like, I'm the winner of this fight.
joe rogan
You can't do that to that kid.
ari shaffir
He'll make a lot more money.
joe rogan
No.
They're not the same weight class.
Billy Joe Saunders is like one or two.
I think he's light heavyweight.
What is he?
Is he super middleweight?
Google what he is.
unidentified
That sounds right.
ari shaffir
Can Billy Joe Saunders beat him with his right arm tied behind his back?
joe rogan
It wouldn't be fair at all.
It would be horrible.
But that guy's an elite world champion boxer.
And Logan Paul had one fight.
ari shaffir
Splint on his leg, right arm tied behind his back.
He would still beat Logan Paul?
joe rogan
Someone did that.
Jason Ellis is so crazy.
He had a fight where...
Who did he do it with?
jamie vernon
Shane Carwin.
joe rogan
Shane Carwin, that's right.
Oh my god, that makes it even more crazy.
That's right.
Shane Carwin, who's one of the biggest punching heavyweights in the history of the fucking sport.
He made Shane Carwin tape his arm to his body.
Look at this.
So he's got his right arm taped to his body and he's just blasted him with left hands.
And dude, Shane Carwin was a fucking murderer.
ari shaffir
Brock Lesnar's prime.
joe rogan
A murderer, dude.
This is such a ridiculous idea for him to do this.
ari shaffir
He's punching her so much lighter.
joe rogan
Dude, the guy's a giant.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
He hasn't even really tried to hit him yet.
joe rogan
Dude, when I was taking jiu-jitsu in Boulder, I was on the mats.
ari shaffir
He just got left.
This is it.
joe rogan
This is what I was talking about.
But that's all he needs, man.
He scooped him up for some reason at one point in time, just to joke around, to pick him up.
But when I was there, I was training at their jujitsu school, and this guy walked in there as his left hook.
Fucking terrible idea.
ari shaffir
He's out.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Look at that.
Watch that punch again.
He's so big, man.
He's so big.
Back that up a little bit.
Look at this.
ari shaffir
Oh, right on him.
He just kept trying until he got him.
joe rogan
He's so big.
ari shaffir
There's a little bit of movement.
Separation.
joe rogan
He's just way too strong.
Way, way, way, way, way, way, way too strong.
ari shaffir
Damn.
joe rogan
Anyway, that guy walked in when I was doing jiu-jitsu.
I was rolling.
I was like, what the fuck is that?
I was like, is that a cartoon person?
What is that?
He was, at the time, he was probably close to 300 pounds.
He's so big it's ridiculous, dude.
He's got like body arms.
Like where your body is, that's his arms.
And for Ellis, he's so crazy to be willing to have a boxing match with that dude and get punched in the head by that guy.
ari shaffir
That's his jackass roots.
unidentified
I get it.
ari shaffir
He's a fighter with jackass roots.
joe rogan
Fuck all that noise.
You can get some never-ending headaches.
ari shaffir
Would you fight now?
joe rogan
What I know?
No.
Are you listening to what I'm saying?
ari shaffir
I know, but not one of those guys, but some other celebrities.
joe rogan
Dude, I know too many people that are having real problems with their head.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
A lot of fighters, like post-career, are having real struggles.
It's no joke, man.
You've got to know when to stop, and head injuries are...
ari shaffir
What about headgear?
unidentified
It's worse.
joe rogan
Headgear doesn't help.
Headgear makes your head like a bigger target.
It's easier to hit.
And then also, when you get hit, it's like an unnatural fulcrum.
All this fucking weight on your head.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think the thing about it is you're trying to avoid cuts.
That's what headgear is good for.
It's good for you avoiding cuts.
ari shaffir
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
But you can get fucked up with a punch or a kick wearing headgear.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Big gloves help a little bit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, big gloves.
joe rogan
You can still get your fucking brains rattled.
ari shaffir
Tripoli and I talk about having a fight, but he won't fight me.
joe rogan
No, don't get your brains rattled, dude.
ari shaffir
It won't be me.
I guess he's worried about himself.
joe rogan
About hurting himself?
ari shaffir
Yeah, getting hurt.
Yeah, and his mom's worried about it too.
joe rogan
What are you trying to say?
Are you trying to talk shit?
Say his mom's worried about him?
ari shaffir
No, I know his mom loves him and he's worried about him.
joe rogan
Because you're going to fuck him up?
Is that what you're saying?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think that's overall why he's running away from the fight.
Yeah, if I had to guess for a reason.
joe rogan
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.
ari shaffir
I've been trying to fight him.
He won't fight me.
joe rogan
Why do you want to fight him?
You guys work together.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I know, but we've been talking about this fight forever and he won't fight me.
joe rogan
Forever?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You would do this.
I know you would.
ari shaffir
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Do you think you would fight high or sober?
ari shaffir
Probably high.
joe rogan
Probably high is a good word.
ari shaffir
No, I don't know.
Maybe.
I trained high all the time with Eddie.
He encouraged it.
joe rogan
Yeah, always.
ari shaffir
It's great.
joe rogan
Would you...
ari shaffir
I might show mercy if I was high.
That'd be a negative.
joe rogan
Bare knuckle, you think?
ari shaffir
I was not thinking about it.
I was thinking the big gloves, but that's definitely one way to go.
I don't think bare knuckle, no.
joe rogan
Bare knuckle.
jamie vernon
Open hand like combat.
ari shaffir
Slap fight.
joe rogan
Slap fight.
That's a good way to get poked in the eye.
Trust me.
ari shaffir
Did Louis break his hand slap fighting Jay?
joe rogan
Did he really?
He broke his hand?
ari shaffir
I think so.
I think so.
joe rogan
Where'd he hit him?
Jay's got a giant head.
Jay's got one super wide.
unidentified
He's got a super wide.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got big bones, that J. Yeah.
ari shaffir
How was Legion of Skanks?
You went on, finally.
joe rogan
It was fun!
We were so high, though, dude.
And it was the day after Sober October was over.
Blitzkrieg'd.
And they kept rolling blunts and passing around.
And I had to pronounce some Russian names two hours later.
ari shaffir
Oh, for the weigh-ins?
joe rogan
Yeah, we do the weigh-ins two hours later.
So this is them slap fighting?
jamie vernon
Jeremiah.
joe rogan
Oh, him and Jeremiah?
That's when he broke his hand?
Oh, Jeremiah just lit him up.
Look how serious Jeremiah is.
Jeremiah changed his stance.
He knows how to use that fucking reach.
ari shaffir
He goes for the block, too.
He goes backhanded.
Oh, he's toying with them.
jamie vernon
He gets a good one at the end of the round too.
joe rogan
Dude, Jeremiah slapped him.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Oh shit.
ari shaffir
Lewis, when he fake boxes, he touches you.
unidentified
He hits you way too hard.
joe rogan
Where did Jeremiah learn how to box?
ari shaffir
From fucking Catholic school, I think.
jamie vernon
Street to Kansas somewhere.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
For real?
ari shaffir
He had to slap cattle on the fucking...
joe rogan
Where do you think he learned?
ari shaffir
Lewis is outclassed by this 130-pounder.
joe rogan
He's bigger than that.
Oh, that's a good right hand.
unidentified
Lewis is 280. Dude, this is a slap fight.
ari shaffir
This is Tom's height.
joe rogan
This is a real slap fight.
ari shaffir
This is a real slap fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, this isn't like some guy's playing silly.
ari shaffir
Look at Dave Smith there.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
He's saying no.
unidentified
Wow!
ari shaffir
He said no he's not knocked out, but you got fucked up, Gomez.
joe rogan
He got cracked.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's the kind of fighting that got your dad stabbed to death.
joe rogan
Legion of Skanks slapboxing.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Let me tell you something.
You can get KO'd slapboxing.
Don't get confused.
Look at him.
He just had a fight.
That was like a fight fight.
jamie vernon
He flew out for this.
He flew out for a slapbox.
joe rogan
Wait, is this round two?
Are they going to round two?
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
I didn't know it was like this.
joe rogan
Keep going, please.
What are you doing?
Why are you shutting this off?
jamie vernon
I'm not.
joe rogan
Let it roll.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at this.
ari shaffir
I mean, Lewis is so serious right now.
joe rogan
Well, what Jeremiah's doing...
ari shaffir
What's he doing?
joe rogan
What he's doing is he's waiting.
He's putting his hand out there, he's pawing, and Lewis throws these combinations, and Jeremiah's waiting.
He's catching them.
He's catching them as he's coming in.
ari shaffir
Would you compare some to Anderson Silva a little bit?
joe rogan
A little bit.
ari shaffir
The way he's like baiting him.
joe rogan
Counterfighting.
Yeah.
He's counterfighting.
And he's also being very smart with his defense.
And Lewis got a little feel for that right hand.
A little worried about that right hand.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
He doesn't want it.
joe rogan
That thing's coming down.
It's a good...
He's got a good reach tactic, too.
ari shaffir
He also keeps blocking on the side that Jeremiah's not touching him, which is...
joe rogan
Oh!
ari shaffir
Lewis can't help but want to close his fist.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, again, real close.
Jeremiah's circling.
That's a good move as well.
But Lewis is closing the distance.
He looks very angry.
ari shaffir
He's serious.
joe rogan
He's going back to his roots.
He's getting very aggressive.
Jeremiah might be losing steam.
Oh, he's taking big reaches.
Is that the round over?
There's another round after this?
ari shaffir
How is Jeremiah doing this?
joe rogan
Oh, keep it moving, please.
Let's see the next round.
Oh my god.
So they just kept doing rounds.
Look, he's got his back turned and shit.
This is hilarious.
These guys are...
I'm so glad these guys are alive.
They're so ridiculous.
They're pushing wild comedy.
ari shaffir
Dude, I never go as far as I go on Legion of Skanks.
joe rogan
Of course not.
ari shaffir
It's just such an open environment for doing whatever.
joe rogan
Well, it's also in support of, like I said, wild comedy.
You need that.
You need that.
ari shaffir
You need to balance things out.
joe rogan
Obviously, people love it.
ari shaffir
Oh my god, Jeremiah is so lanky!
joe rogan
He's taking big, long swings.
ari shaffir
Got him in the neck.
joe rogan
Lewis is relaxing a little bit more now, and he's starting to use some technique.
That was some nonsense right there.
It looked like he just punched him in the stomach.
unidentified
He does.
ari shaffir
He looks like he's closing his fist every time.
joe rogan
He smacked him hard in the head with that right hand.
unidentified
Jab, jab, jab!
ari shaffir
Jab.
You can't jab and slap.
Oh my god!
Jeremiah got him twice!
joe rogan
Yeah, you can slap.
I mean, you can jab.
Oh, Lewis just smacked him.
ari shaffir
Lewis really?
joe rogan
Oh, he went to the body with a punch, dude.
unidentified
He's punching.
joe rogan
Dude, it seems like he's...
Is he slapping to the body?
ari shaffir
He's punching to the body.
He can't help it.
He's an oaf.
He's uneducated, which is a lot of his problem.
He doesn't understand the concept.
joe rogan
What books would you recommend to him?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What books would you recommend to him?
ari shaffir
Timmy the Turtle plays soccer.
joe rogan
Oh, he just got lit up with that right hand.
Dude, he got lit up.
He got lit up.
ari shaffir
Oh my God, Jeremiah's in the backtracking.
joe rogan
He's trying hard to come out.
ari shaffir
Of course, the round is over and Louis is still punching.
What a fucking trash oaf.
joe rogan
Wow.
Is that it?
ari shaffir
Is that the end?
unidentified
Who won?
ari shaffir
I mean, he won that fight.
He's got Jeremiah on his heels.
Jeremiah won the first round.
Second round, I'd say it was a wash.
joe rogan
Well, definitely not.
I didn't judge it.
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
People are saying, one more round?
Okay, what does this mean?
Jeremiah won.
ari shaffir
Jeremiah takes it.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
I can see it.
It was all Who Room went to.
joe rogan
Wow.
Well, listen, he did crack him with some big shots.
ari shaffir
It was all based on round two.
And that was close.
joe rogan
He cracked him with some big shots.
Look at Jeremiah.
Slap boxing people.
That looks painful as fuck.
Like, his face is raw.
ari shaffir
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
They might have to have a rematch.
joe rogan
No way.
ari shaffir
Nobody wants that.
joe rogan
Just let me tell you something about slapping people in the face.
Slapping people in the face is open hands.
Open hands, hitting your eyeball, you're going to scratch your fucking eye, and you're going to have a real eye injury.
ari shaffir
It does sound like a good technique.
unidentified
I'm not saying...
joe rogan
I'm not saying don't do it.
ari shaffir
It's a good strategy, Joe.
joe rogan
You do whatever you want, but I want you to know that open hand slapping and reaching like that, you just ask.
As someone who's seen probably 500 people get poked in the eye up close, you're going to get poked in the eye.
ari shaffir
I'd agree.
That is the best way to incapacitate someone.
joe rogan
Don't do it, though.
ari shaffir
And...
What?
joe rogan
Don't do that.
unidentified
Don't do that.
joe rogan
No, don't.
Don't do that.
unidentified
Don't do that.
ari shaffir
If you need to win...
jamie vernon
Use this, like...
ari shaffir
I like your technique.
jamie vernon
...block goggles.
There's little slits to block your eyes.
Is that good enough?
joe rogan
That's a good way to get those things whacked off your head...
ari shaffir
Screw your nails out, too.
joe rogan
...so you can't see.
ari shaffir
And shave those.
joe rogan
Maybe if you had some eye goggles, like legit little welding goggles or some shit.
Some scuba goggles.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
But that would be...
It would almost be worse for you because it would fuck with your peripheral.
If you didn't get used to slapping people...
When you have things on, that's one thing I always hated about headgear.
You put them on, you can't see things here and here good.
Your window of your field of view gets narrowed.
It becomes a problem when you get close.
You don't see where punchers are coming.
ari shaffir
Because of goggles.
joe rogan
Yeah, headgear.
You don't see where kicks are coming.
You don't see things coming.
So I would think that would be the same thing with those goggles.
ari shaffir
Yeah, what about swimmer's goggles?
joe rogan
I think they would still fuck with your peripheral.
All those things would fuck with your peripheral.
ari shaffir
Yeah, no way.
You don't see anything coming.
joe rogan
But unless you trained with them on.
If you trained with them on, maybe you could do it.
ari shaffir
You would get more used to it, but it still cuts you down.
joe rogan
They could also just touch your goggles with their face, and they would get their sweat all over your goggles, and then you wouldn't be able to see as good.
ari shaffir
Another good technique.
jamie vernon
They're both wearing goggles, so that's fair.
joe rogan
But they would both do that.
It would fuck you up.
You wouldn't be able to see that good.
You wouldn't see what's in front of you.
jamie vernon
Good luck.
joe rogan
Let's just fight.
Let's just cut the shit and put some gloves on and fight.
If we're going to do that, if we're going to slap fight, let's just fight.
I want to be able to take you down and strangle you.
This is nonsense.
Poking each other in the eye and smearing each other's fucking goggles.
ari shaffir
Who do you think would have been in a just straight jiu-jitsu fight between you and Lewis?
Because he thinks him.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
He's watched over 100 UFC fights.
joe rogan
He's a big fellow, though.
ari shaffir
He is so fat.
joe rogan
He'll probably get good at it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a big, tough guy.
ari shaffir
He could lay on you.
jamie vernon
He needs to weigh 330. He's lost a little shitload of weight.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
ari shaffir
He's lost over 20 pounds.
joe rogan
No, he's not that big.
Oh, thanks.
ari shaffir
He's back.
He's ballooned.
joe rogan
Are you trying to start a fight with him now?
ari shaffir
I am not.
I'm just saying he has ballooned.
I was guessing a high weight at Sodor Special.
When he taped it, I was like...
joe rogan
What'd you think?
ari shaffir
I said, what are you, like 240?
And he goes, no, like 250. Okay.
I was like, I was guessing high.
I thought he'd be 220. Jesus.
joe rogan
That's a big fella.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's big, period.
Like, if that guy just, you know, if he dieted down and got ripped, he's still 215, 220 pounds.
A big fella.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
If he lost 45 pounds, he'd be 215. Is he that big?
That seems big, Coach.
I don't know.
Sometimes you, like, don't realize.
People just get, like, suddenly big.
joe rogan
What's with his glasses?
Why is he wearing yellow glasses everywhere?
Is that his new thing?
ari shaffir
You know, some guys have a thing.
He's always looking for a thing.
joe rogan
Well, Big Jay took it from Dice, the weightlifting gloves.
That's Big Jay's homage.
People don't know that.
That's his homage to Dice Clay.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, the weightlifting gloves.
Big Jay's a giant Dice fan.
He loves them.
ari shaffir
Giant Dice fan.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who isn't?
ari shaffir
Dude, I brought Dice to meet Jay on a roof party on July 4th.
unidentified
This year?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I think this year.
joe rogan
So a couple months ago?
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, November.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Could have been a year ago, but I think this year.
How funny is he?
unidentified
You don't even know.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't know.
It's time.
You know how it works.
But I was like, hey, come meet me.
My friend Jay wants to meet you.
And then we were just up on the roof.
He was like, Jay, can you meet somebody?
He was talking.
He was like, yeah, hang on.
I was like, no, just real quick.
And then he looked.
He was like, oh, wow.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were going to do a podcast with him and Dice.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
At that point in time.
But I don't remember what happened.
I probably dropped the ball.
ari shaffir
Chef Kumia and Dice doing dice-offs.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
They're friends, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're friends.
joe rogan
I know they had a thing for a while.
ari shaffir
That's squashed.
joe rogan
That was one of the best feuds.
ari shaffir
That's a good feud.
Oh, radio feuds?
Oh, radio feuds were great.
joe rogan
He would do radio feuds on purpose, but Dice would get into feuds on purpose.
ari shaffir
On purpose?
joe rogan
Yeah, so much of it was like theater.
People don't know all the crazy shit he did.
ari shaffir
He commits so hard.
joe rogan
Remember when he had those comics acting out some movie that he was filming with his VHS camera?
ari shaffir
The never-ending Dice movie.
That he'd edit, by the way, he'd edit by like, say stop, and he'd rewind and press pause right there and start recording from there.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
ari shaffir
You couldn't go back and edit.
joe rogan
No, he didn't have any software.
ari shaffir
Forward, backwards, forward, backwards.
Oh, stop!
That guy's about to punch you.
Now you be mid-punch.
joe rogan
This is after he had sold out like, what, 300 stadiums?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He sold out arenas and stadiums all across the world.
I mean, he was a giant superstar.
unidentified
After that, he's recording these fucking weird impromptu He made us have characters.
ari shaffir
Miles Jobbani would show up and he goes, you're the foreigner.
And every time you show up, I'm going to give you the evil eye.
I'm like, yeah, be the foreigner.
And then Miles was like, mm-hmm.
He'd have to look back at him.
We couldn't go on stage.
We'd have to do this dice thing.
I got to go on stage.
So I'm going to put up Sony Armstrong first.
Yeah.
Renazisi was Tower 2. Oh my god.
Maz was the foreigner.
He had me and Bobby, while we were fighting, he made us come into these and beat each other up.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So ridiculous.
ari shaffir
So ridiculous.
We would slam each other's heads against shit.
joe rogan
But in that way, he's very unique.
ari shaffir
His son would choke you out.
joe rogan
Who would you say Dice is like?
If someone said, what's Dice like in real life?
I'd be like, what?
What is he like?
You don't know anybody like him.
Why am I telling you?
You have to meet him.
ari shaffir
You can't understand it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
You don't know.
He's wearing old Jewish lady sunglasses.
ari shaffir
They're enormous.
joe rogan
The glasses are enormous.
ari shaffir
Giant sweatshirt.
joe rogan
He gave up on dyeing his hair.
It's all gray now.
He slicks it back.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the glasses are like the Elvis, not rhinestones, but the thick gold that goes back here to get shorter.
joe rogan
He's legit at the gym every day.
So he does a lot of videos from the gym because he does work out a lot still.
ari shaffir
He has a term called in the cage.
joe rogan
Look at those fucking glasses!
Oh my god, that picture's amazing.
ari shaffir
Just diamonds everywhere.
joe rogan
That picture's amazing.
Look at the one above it, the upper left.
That's just as good.
ari shaffir
That's classic dice.
joe rogan
That's classic dice.
Me and Kumia and Jimmy and fuck, who else went with us?
Somebody else went with us.
ari shaffir
I went with you once to the dice show in Vegas.
joe rogan
You were there too?
ari shaffir
I think I went a different time than you guys went.
joe rogan
Oh man, we all went to the Riviera.
Before the Riviera closed, he was up in the upstairs room.
ari shaffir
The large room?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, we had such a good time.
ari shaffir
Look at those giant sideburns.
joe rogan
Yep.
Look at them.
Love them.
But it was such a funny...
ari shaffir
Italian Wolverine.
joe rogan
I know.
It's funny.
He shaved the thing down the bottom.
unidentified
This is my new sideburns.
ari shaffir
Yeah, so he has all that.
He's always looking for a goof.
Just always.
joe rogan
Always.
ari shaffir
He doesn't know what it will be yet, but he'll just like...
He gave somebody his phone number out on radio one day.
He was about to get a new phone, and so on radio he goes, Hey, my old phone number is...
He didn't say old phone number.
He goes, My phone number is this.
And he goes, give me a call.
I'll talk to you.
And people start talking to him and calling him.
He said, come to my car.
He turned it on.
As soon as he turned it on, it just starts ringing.
People are calling him nonstop.
They go, hello?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's me.
unidentified
He got this one guy where he started calling the guy back.
ari shaffir
And then he started, like, bothering the guy.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
He would call him at work.
And he'd be like, hello.
He's like, hey, it's just Andrew.
The guy's like, Dice, I can't.
After talking to him, his dream was to talk to Dice.
joe rogan
And now Dice is just calling him at work.
ari shaffir
A week later, he's like, Dice, I'm at work right now.
I really can't.
He's like, so what kind of work you're doing right now?
What is it?
Who's there?
Just bothering him.
Until the guy was, like, avoiding his call.
joe rogan
But the fact that that would be the thing that gets his gear spinning.
That would be it.
I know what I want to do.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be what he wants to do.
ari shaffir
He would either be the butt of the joke or he'd have somebody else watching him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Classic human.
unidentified
And just love them all the time.
joe rogan
And it's like, even to this day, he's still doing it.
ari shaffir
If someone was in the back steps of the comedy store, and let's say you're a fan, but let's say you're standing straight up, and I'm two steps up.
joe rogan
He can't see, I don't think.
You got to focus?
ari shaffir
Okay, so I'm two steps.
You're standing up, I'm standing up.
I'm two steps.
I'm on a step.
And you're like, oh, Dice, nice to meet you.
You do that.
joe rogan
Hey, Dice, nice to meet you.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
Nice to meet you, too.
unidentified
He just looks.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's really good.
I just never looked down.
The guy's like, a big fan.
He's like, oh yeah, that's great.
Thanks a lot.
I just not come down, not look down.
He's like, oh, it's great.
It's always great to meet a fan.
Yeah, that's great.
The guy's like, okay, sure.
I see ya.
And then he'd sit down and just ask if we saw that.
unidentified
Jesus.
ari shaffir
God.
He's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a legit character.
ari shaffir
He's always in it for the goof.
joe rogan
He's a legit character, right?
ari shaffir
His message, I remember realizing at some point I didn't have to grow up in this business.
Like, I still had thoughts of, like, even though I'm not going to be a lawyer, but, like, that's still the direction I'm supposed to head, you know?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You have to be distinguished?
ari shaffir
Yeah, or something.
joe rogan
You have to change your behavior.
ari shaffir
Yeah, like, it's going to happen.
I'm going to become an adult.
And then I heard, I called Dice, and his answering machine was, I'm like, dude, that's the guy in his mid-50s.
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
And I'm like, oh, maybe I don't have to grow up.
Maybe I could just be like fucking whatever.
The guy never changed.
joe rogan
I don't think you have to grow up.
I think people will put pressure on you because they have to grow up.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
They're like, why don't you have to grow up?
ari shaffir
Enablers.
joe rogan
Yeah.
As long as you're paying your bills, as long as you're paying your taxes, as long as you're not a deadbeat dad.
ari shaffir
Keep child abuse to a minimum.
joe rogan
You said that.
ari shaffir
So you're not saying minimum?
joe rogan
I don't understand.
As long as you're a good person, who gives a shit if you grow up?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is happening?
What are we doing?
We have a finite time here.
We're deciding we want people to behave in a certain way.
All you want people, just don't be an asshole.
Doesn't matter if you grow up or not grow up.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
These guys like Dice are having a great fucking time.
ari shaffir
Ever see somebody like...
joe rogan
One day he's gonna die.
And I hope he dies in the middle of a prank.
And I hope people don't realize.
ari shaffir
That way you make him happy.
joe rogan
Make him so happy.
ari shaffir
Because I'm on stage dead and everyone just kept waiting.
joe rogan
What's the option?
What's option number two?
Nobody's living forever, folks.
It's not happening.
This is as good as it gets.
ari shaffir
I will tell you, if Dice dies on stage, and you're a comic in the area, and at some point people start to realize, oh fuck, this is not a prank, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
If you get up there and realize he's dead, you should say, what?
Oh, okay.
And then stand up and be like, it's a fucking gag.
And then just leave it up there for a while longer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
See how long you keep it going.
He would have wanted it that way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Yeah, he's nuts.
unidentified
He's the best.
ari shaffir
He's just funny.
That's just a way to live.
He made Norton and Florentine introduce him like they go into a Subway sandwich shop and they'd be like, ladies and gentlemen, avert your eyes!
The legend is coming in!
And then he would like walk in to a Subway sandwich shop.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be a great show.
You have just dice on the road and someone announces him like that everywhere he goes.
ari shaffir
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Peasants, please!
ari shaffir
The legend!
joe rogan
Clear the floor!
ari shaffir
He banned me from his house for a year once.
joe rogan
What'd you do?
ari shaffir
I didn't do anything.
joe rogan
Did you dose his kids?
ari shaffir
I did not dose his kids.
joe rogan
No?
ari shaffir
I would never do that.
Mostly, I'm scared of dice.
He said he had a gun in his desk drawer, and I was like, no, you don't.
No way.
You would never have him around your kids, because I do.
And he said he'd bet me $200.
And I'm like, you know I don't have $200, so I can't make that bet.
And he goes, all right, well, I do.
And then he's all left his thing and goes, don't look in there.
I'm like, I'm not going to look in there.
He goes, don't fucking look in there.
And I won't.
And then Freddie Soto, fucking fuckface Freddie Soto, told him, I was just in the office, told him that I went into his drawer.
He said I was rifling through his drawers.
And Dice's like, that's it.
It's a lie.
It was a lie by Freddie Soto.
And Dice's like, you're out.
You're banned from the house.
Couldn't go to barbecues anymore.
Yeah.
I was rifling through his affairs, which never happened.
Dice, I never did that.
I was in the room.
joe rogan
Why do you think Freddie did that?
ari shaffir
Well, of course, because of that reason.
Because he got me banned.
joe rogan
He wanted to get you back.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Why do you think Freddie would want to get you back?
ari shaffir
I think he was jealous of my upbringing and how I had a foosball table at home.
And it always bothered him that he didn't have that growing up in Texas.
joe rogan
Interesting.
ari shaffir
Maybe.
unidentified
Interesting.
ari shaffir
I'm not sure.
But the point is, I never wrote through his affairs.
joe rogan
You know what Burt said once that was really freaky?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was high, too.
So don't.
Take this with a grain of salt.
Burt goes, I don't think you ever die.
I go, what are you talking about?
People die.
He goes, prove it.
You haven't died.
I don't think you die.
ari shaffir
Prove it's a good one, though.
joe rogan
Here's the thing.
ari shaffir
Prove it's a good, like, yeah, good point.
joe rogan
Sort of.
Yeah, but what are you saying then?
Like, I've had enough people come on this podcast that have you semi-convinced that you're living in some sort of simulation.
ari shaffir
What does he think happens?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
What do you think he thinks happens?
ari shaffir
When he has seen bodies no longer have life in them, right?
joe rogan
Right, but that's not you.
It's not him.
ari shaffir
So those people are all just the players?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know what he's saying.
ari shaffir
Is he saying he's the only thing in the universe?
I've heard that theory.
Or is he saying like none of us die?
joe rogan
What if everyone was the only person in their own universe, and everyone's universe intersects with other people's universes, and that you think that the universe you exist in is the same as the one that I exist in because we hang out together.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the actual universe in your world is revolved around you.
ari shaffir
And in your world...
joe rogan
Dun, dun, dun.
ari shaffir
Mine revolves around me.
Can I pitch a movie real quick?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Once one guy realizes that he's in that, he's able to travel to other universes, has to kill the one person from each universe that's the real person.
Yes.
joe rogan
Time travel.
Space travel.
ari shaffir
And the one will find him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Is that a movie?
joe rogan
Is that another movie from John Clark?
jamie vernon
Not John Clark, but there's a movie coming out.
It's...
It's been made, I believe, or they're finishing it now.
It's coming out next year with Ryan Reynolds, where he plays an NPC character in a video game that realizes he's that.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
And, like, whatever hilarity ensues.
joe rogan
Oh, that's fine.
It's a comedy?
jamie vernon
I don't know exactly.
ari shaffir
No, it's serious.
jamie vernon
It's an action comedy.
joe rogan
He plays an NPC, non-player character.
That's like the ultimate nerd diss, right?
ari shaffir
They call someone an NPC? That means you're just, like, a dead-on.
Just, like, walking into a wall.
joe rogan
Yeah, just a guy pulling nails out of wood.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
By the way, if anyone makes that movie, you're welcome to.
We both give you permission.
joe rogan
Yeah, go ahead.
ari shaffir
We want tickets to the premiere.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's all we want.
And say it's based on a conversation between Ari Shaffir and Joe Rogan.
ari shaffir
The Joe Rogan experience.
joe rogan
And Ari Shaffir's taping of his new motherfucking comedy special will be February 8th.
ari shaffir
New York, Manhattan, right near Washington Square Park at the Skirball Center.
joe rogan
And AriTheGreat.com.
ari shaffir
AriTheGreat.com for tickets.
I'll post it on my Twitter, my Instagram, and yeah, February, two shows.
joe rogan
I like how after all these years, you still are slurring your words together.
You've never bothered fixing that.
ari shaffir
How have I made a living?
joe rogan
It's amazing.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
We would joke around sometimes about you.
Especially when we do tag team, when you're introducing people, it's like you're fucking already done in your head.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't want to get out of there.
joe rogan
So you're rushing it out.
He's great, he's great, he's great.
ari shaffir
I'll join words.
I'll make four into two.
Sometimes I'll get seven into three.
joe rogan
That's a punch drunk thing, too.
ari shaffir
You think I'm punch drunk?
joe rogan
No, I don't think you are.
ari shaffir
But that does happen.
joe rogan
I know you're not, in fact.
But some people who are, one of the things is they start slurring their words together.
ari shaffir
You hear them talking like...
joe rogan
They all sound the same.
They start talking about...
ari shaffir
Like they can't get their mouth to move as fast as their brain?
joe rogan
Something's wrong.
Shit's not firing right.
Brain damage, son.
That's what we were talking about earlier.
I know too many people that have been hit in the head.
It's just, after a while, man, and the thing is, you can retire now, and you start getting headaches like three, four years from now.
Depression might set in five, six years from now.
Seven, eight years from now, you might have memory issues.
It's not a simple, like, as soon as you're done, like, here you are right now.
Like, as if you stop fighting, like, right now, today, and you're like, I think I stopped fighting at a good time.
I got my faculties.
I'm all fine right now.
Maybe.
But maybe all the times you've been hit over those years leading up to that is going to start to kick in years from now.
That's why you see some fighters, they're fine when they retire, but then you see them 10 years after they retire and you can barely understand a word they're saying.
That's what's going on there.
That's when it's kicking in.
ari shaffir
People die of heart disease like years after they stop doing coke.
joe rogan
Is that true?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
ari shaffir
Their hearts just got weaker.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
I long for the day when they figure out how to revitalize brains.
When they figure out how to, whether it's through stem cells or something.
ari shaffir
Snorting a stem cell?
joe rogan
Snorting it, yeah.
You have to suck one of those Chinese guys' giant monster dick, and that's where the best stem cells are?
ari shaffir
That's in a rhino horn.
joe rogan
That was the only way to fix TBI. You had to suck a giant super person's dick.
ari shaffir
That's right.
We have a cure.
unidentified
We have a cure.
joe rogan
And also a catch.
ari shaffir
We have shot it right into these monster cocks.
joe rogan
That would be the Chinese porn film with these guys.
That would be the debut.
The only way to cure brain damage would be you'd have to suck one of their cocks.
You'd get these old football players, their bad knees, suck these giant Chinese cocks.
ari shaffir
And they're like, but what if sucking this cock, the act of it, gave me more depression?
And they're like, well, second treatment.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
The cure is so good.
It's so yummy.
You're going to love it.
You're going to want to suck all the cocks.
It's like the first cock you suck.
ari shaffir
You're not going to want to have only one cock in here.
joe rogan
What's hard is just going ahead and jumping the cue.
Just get in there and suck that cock.
ari shaffir
The first one is the biggest one.
joe rogan
You're already a cocksucker.
What are you worried about?
Just suck to your heart's content.
Now he's happy because it tastes good.
The shame's gone.
It's over.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it cures all of his brain damage.
Fixes his knees.
ari shaffir
You would get treatments all the time.
Women like Botox women that are addicted to it, you would have that.
joe rogan
Imagine if that's where all of the best stem cells came from.
They came from a dude's dick.
And if you really wanted to get them, you've got to get them right from the tap because you can't have them in the air.
They die instantly.
So you've got to literally take it from the cock to your mouth.
Sorry, there's no other way.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Jamie's like, I'd rather have brain damage.
ari shaffir
Can I picture a movie?
joe rogan
Sure.
Does it have to do with coxies?
ari shaffir
Yes, it does.
It's a lot of that.
So, these Chinese guys are actually bred in a lab to make...
They're not out in the streets, but then they get...
But that's just to milk them for their fucking juice.
joe rogan
Juice.
ari shaffir
You know?
joe rogan
Right.
Super sperm.
ari shaffir
And they get out.
joe rogan
They get out.
ari shaffir
One didn't lock the door.
joe rogan
Oh, they get out to the streets.
ari shaffir
And then it's these monster guys.
And people want to kill them, but also, like, don't kill them!
We need their sperm.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
So it's first they try to capture him alive.
They're also massive dudes.
And then people want to suck their dick.
So when they're about to be caught, maybe that'll have something to do with it.
joe rogan
Right.
The cops in the backseat sucking his dick when they're arresting him.
ari shaffir
That's how they'll get out a bunch.
joe rogan
I got a bad back.
Do you mind?
Before we go in there, do you mind?
ari shaffir
No, it's okay.
joe rogan
So we suck you off real quick?
That would be the greatest fucking gay porno of all time.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it would.
You'd have to really shoot it well.
joe rogan
A giant Superman, engineered Superman with a giant hard dick, and everybody wants to suck his dick because it cures all of your ailments.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and he wants out to live his free life.
joe rogan
I've had a bad ACL since 86. It's too important.
ari shaffir
You can't live free.
joe rogan
I'll suck it.
That's all you have to do.
unidentified
Yeah, you can bribe it.
ari shaffir
You can bribe any game.
I mean, it's great.
They've done research.
joe rogan
They know, but imagine if that was the only way you could get the best stem cells.
ari shaffir
It was like Jesus touching you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's the growing of it.
ari shaffir
He would constantly escape.
How much do you make a year, officer?
50 grand?
What are you hurt?
You got stabbed in your once.
I can...
Let's just make it.
joe rogan
Just open your mouth.
I'll jerk off in it.
You don't even have to suck it.
ari shaffir
Your wife's got the cancer.
Your wife's got cancer.
You can shotgun it from my...
She don't have to suck it.
You can shotgun it.
You can take it and then put it up.
I get why you wouldn't want her to do it.
unidentified
I'll tell you when.
joe rogan
Just pretend you're sucking on your own thumb.
unidentified
Close your throat.
joe rogan
Ready, go!
unidentified
Close your throat.
ari shaffir
Now spit it in her mouth.
Spit it in her mouth.
joe rogan
Swallow it!
ari shaffir
Feel the healing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it can't hit air at all.
That's the catch.
ari shaffir
Can't hit air.
You gotta make it airtight.
Someone has to plug your butt during those two.
At least with the toe.
joe rogan
How long before women have robot fuck dolls?
Once men have robot fuck dolls, how many years before women have them after that?
ari shaffir
Well, I think it'll be when men allow the women to have it.
I don't think it's a good idea to let them have it.
They already have it.
joe rogan
They already have it.
They just don't have the body that goes with it.
They already have the best fuck things.
They have vibrators and giant dongs and purple dicks and shit.
ari shaffir
You want hardness.
Men want softness, which is harder to replicate than hardness.
joe rogan
What are you, a chemist?
jamie vernon
Some man would want something interesting that a woman would probably take advantage of.
ari shaffir
Like what?
What do you mean?
jamie vernon
Not all men want to...
joe rogan
How high are you?
unidentified
I don't know what you're saying.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying?
jamie vernon
Some guy's gonna want something up his ass, basically.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.
jamie vernon
Some girl's gonna take eventually.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but they can use...
joe rogan
Some girl's gonna take?
ari shaffir
Oh, you're saying that's how they get it?
jamie vernon
Commandeer that machine or that device.
ari shaffir
I get what you're saying.
jamie vernon
Be like, oh, it was made for a guy, but guess what?
ari shaffir
It'll be a sext off a man, then the gays will be like, I'm a man, I want mine, and the women are like, can I use yours while you're not using it?
joe rogan
Right, right, so So if a gay guy has a fuck doll, then he...
I get it.
jamie vernon
Like a massager's not for a massage.
It's for whatever girls use it for.
ari shaffir
When the lesbian forecloses on the gay man's house for partying all day and not working, then she can use their fuck doll.
joe rogan
Yeah, industrious lesbian.
She goes, listen, Luther, you're a loser, but you got a good fuck doll.
Clean your up and bring it by my place.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Is this all part of the movie?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is how it ends.
It ends with a lesbian entrepreneur getting the fuck doll in payment for back rent.
This, I mean, we're about 50 years away from having indistinguishable, I just made that number up, but I'm pretty confident, indistinguishable human robots.
ari shaffir
That's exactly right.
joe rogan
I think it's about right, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right about when you and I are ready to kick the bucket.
We'll be walking.
There'll be robots hanging out at Starbucks.
And we'll go, that's not a real person.
Remember that?
ari shaffir
Yeah, this was already on my pad just when I walked in here.
So I believe you're correct.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You wrote that already?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that was already on here.
That's incredible.
joe rogan
What were you just doing with your hand that made it look like writing?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
ari shaffir
I don't remember saying that.
Yeah, I don't see a pen.
jamie vernon
There's nothing over there.
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Anyway.
unidentified
Jew.
joe rogan
February 8th.
ari shaffir
February 8th.
Ari Shaffir Jew.
joe rogan
Tickets in New York City.
Tickets at AriTheGreat.com.
ari shaffir
AriTheGreat.com, yeah.
joe rogan
Skeptic Tank.
It's been outstanding.
ari shaffir
Dude, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Excellent podcast.
ari shaffir
We were trying to do a swap cast.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll do another one.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
We're around.
ari shaffir
I want to have you on.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to talk about poisonous things, but we got high.
ari shaffir
We did.
That was the plan is to do this and then swap it.
joe rogan
We could swap this.
ari shaffir
No.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
We'll do another one.
We'll do another one.
We'll do it on things that scare you, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, those monsters.
That's shit you're always talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Things that can kill you.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of shit that can kill you, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We could talk for days.
ari shaffir
For days?
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll do it.
We'll do the next one.
ari shaffir
We should do it in here because I would like to be able to call that shit up.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll do it.
We'll do it again.
We'll do it again.
There you go, fuckers.
You get another podcast.
ari shaffir
There you go.
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