Nov. 11, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Three. | ||
| Two. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, the champ is here. | ||
| My man. | ||
| Salud. | ||
| Salud. | ||
| Last time. | ||
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L'chaim. | |
| L'chaim. | ||
| Last time you were here, you were neither the interim nor the undisputed. | ||
| Now you got it all. | ||
| I'm the double interim champ. | ||
| You got it. | ||
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Why? | |
| Why say double? | ||
| You keep saying that. | ||
| Double interim. | ||
| Double interim. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Robert Whitaker's the champ. | ||
| Yeah, he was. | ||
| You knocked him out. | ||
| You're the champ. | ||
| Because when I was there, you know, even my last fight, I feel like it's my first title defense, to be honest. | ||
| Because I was waiting for something to change. | ||
| I was waiting for that feeling that I had in Atlanta, but it never came. | ||
| And within three days, I was like, I felt like I just defended the belt. | ||
| Because technically, I was the champ as well. | ||
| I was the champ. | ||
| And if he had beat me, he'd have got one of those rubies you put on this. | ||
| So I'm looking for my ruby as well. | ||
| They get a ruby? | ||
| Yeah, like that's the thing. | ||
| You know how you used to get a new belt? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you don't get a new belt anymore. | ||
| So what they do is you send this off. | ||
| This isn't actually my one, my one. | ||
| I've sent it off. | ||
| This isn't yours? | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| You sent yours already? | ||
| I sent... | ||
| You take this plaque off, this plaque on the side, and then you send it off, then they put a ruby and send it back to you. | ||
| They put a ruby in the plaque? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you collect, like, the infinity stones or whatever. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah, so I got the soul stone. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, I used to not like this belt. | ||
| Now I like it better. | ||
| It's grown. | ||
| Yeah, it took me, like, maybe two days after everyone complained about it. | ||
| Then I looked at it, and when I first saw it, I think it was at the PI, and I was like, you know what? | ||
| I fuck with it. | ||
| Yeah, for a while I was like, ah, the old one's better. | ||
| Now I'm like, I don't think so anymore. | ||
| Nostalgia. | ||
| Nostalgia. | ||
| Yeah, it gets you every time. | ||
| This one's cleaner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just like sharp. | ||
| More legible. | ||
| The old one, it was cool. | ||
| And I still like to, I could buy one on the website, hopefully. | ||
| Yeah, but those are light. | ||
| Yeah, but just for like nostalgic purposes. | ||
| And just because, you know, I've been a fan. | ||
| I should have got one of those. | ||
| I came at the end of it. | ||
| Colby's still walking around with one. | ||
| Man, don't get attached to these things, man. | ||
| I flexed with them for a little bit, you know, because even my last, after Atlanta, my coach, he was kind of worried because I was going to Nigeria, I was going to all these shows. | ||
| I got to like show it off, flex it, but he's my coach. | ||
| So Eugene's like, man, you know, don't think you're the champ yet. | ||
| But I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm the champ. | ||
| But then there was a point when we moved gyms and I just kind of, all right, put in this box with everything else. | ||
| And then he kind of posted about it because he saw like, okay, the switch happened, like it's game time now. | ||
| So same thing, I'm doing my tour right now, victory tour, walk around, do all this shit, but then, even being at the fights last weekend, I got FOMO, because after the fights, I see what's up, people talking about me, right, right, right, right, so I'm like, man, I gotta get back to the gym. | ||
| So when I get back, I don't even look at this thing. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So you're aware that you could get too into the moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can get too wrapped up in the fact that you won the title and maybe slack off a little. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Or maybe take yourself too seriously. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because I mean, a lot of people, this is their goal. | ||
| They're like, I want to become the UFC champion. | ||
| They get it done. | ||
| And then what happens after in the next fight? | ||
| They lose it. | ||
| Or they lose track of what really matters. | ||
| So some guys like Kobe, for example, he's walking around with the belt. | ||
| When Usman whoops his ass, then what's going to happen? | ||
| You're going to walk around with that belt? | ||
| How are you going to feel? | ||
| Well, the Colby thing is interesting. | ||
| And I don't know how much Colby wants people talking about this, but I'm going to spill it as much as I can. | ||
| That's an act, man. | ||
| That's a strong act that he put on when they were ready to cut him. | ||
| They were ready to cut. | ||
| You talk to that guy in real life. | ||
| He's very respectful. | ||
| Jeff's been around him. | ||
| Jeff's been and said he's the nicest guy. | ||
| He's a nice guy, man. | ||
| He's playing a pro wrestling heel, and he's got the whole world worked up. | ||
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It sells. | |
| It sells. | ||
| And here's the thing, though. | ||
| This is where it's interesting. | ||
| It tricks people because he seems like a goof. | ||
| He wears this stupid fucking cheap blue suit. | ||
| He wears that MAGA hat. | ||
| Does that smile? | ||
| He's got the old belt. | ||
| You know it's not a legit belt, right? | ||
| But he did win the interim title and they took it from him for no reason. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| So there's this thing about him where people somehow or another think, like, maybe he's illegitimate. | ||
| Maybe he's not real. | ||
| Then he... | ||
| He fucks Robbie Lawler up. | ||
| Yeah, he can work. | ||
| And you go, oh, Jesus, this guy doesn't get tired. | ||
| He can strike. | ||
| His wrestling's on point. | ||
| His fucking cardio's off the chart. | ||
| He's tough as nails. | ||
| Yeah, I was impressed on the inside. | ||
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He's legit. | |
| Especially when he put Robbie against the fence. | ||
| He was right there slipping and ripping. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Some things, you know, everyone has holes in their game. | ||
| I have holes in my game. | ||
| But he was really impressive. | ||
| The way he was right there in his face against Robbie Lawler. | ||
| He's not an elite striker in the sense of like he's a guy who will slip and then blast someone unconscious with one shot. | ||
| He's a volume guy. | ||
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He's tough. | |
| He's throwing 60%. | ||
| 50-60%. | ||
| Just on you. | ||
| On you. | ||
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On you. | |
| That's it. | ||
| The DS style. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Never let you rest. | ||
| Never let you rest. | ||
| And Robbie in that fight. | ||
| And Robbie's a fucking... | ||
| All-time great welterweight champion. | ||
| I mean, he was a legit top-of-the-food-chain motherfucker, and he was looking for those openings that were never there. | ||
| He was always looking for Colby to slow down. | ||
| Colby never slowed down. | ||
| He was waiting. | ||
| He would see him just waiting, waiting, and he was just buying his time. | ||
| Looking to explode. | ||
| Okay, fuck, fuck. | ||
| Here it is, here it is. | ||
| And there's ways to do that. | ||
| I did it against Whitaker as well. | ||
| You see it, excuse me, I always gotta burp. | ||
| It's times when he'll like, I'll put a clip of this, it's like a simple one, shifting, real simple, subtle thing, just move, two step, one, two, that's it. | ||
| I can see it when he'll like, bounce, bounce, alright, I'm ready to go. | ||
| You shift, you disrupt the pattern, okay, reset, reset. | ||
| I'm about to attack. | ||
| Wonder Boy did it to Luke the past weekend. | ||
| Whenever he was bouncing, he's going to bounce, bounce, and then Wonder Boy shifts. | ||
| So he was doing it with the offense. | ||
| Bounce, bounce, bounce, attack. | ||
| So he was just, it's all about rhythm. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Well, you have something that Wonder Boy has that a few other people have in that you're a specialist. | ||
| And that being a specialist, and obviously you have a full game. | ||
| There's no way you get to where you are without a full game, but you are an elite striker. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And with that, that's a giant advantage, because on the feet, you are a step ahead of everybody. | ||
| Every fight starts standing on the feet. | ||
| And you see it with Whitaker, because Whitaker's a great striker. | ||
| He's a tough guy, but he had holes in his game that maybe he didn't even know he had. | ||
| But you could see that. | ||
| You know what it was? | ||
| I got in his head, and everyone, like, I can see this kind of stuff, man. | ||
| Before the fight, the press conference, when he was talking and acting all unbothered and stuff like that, and I was like, what? | ||
| He's acting out of character. | ||
| He put this meme up, right? | ||
| And the people thought I was affected by the meme, but all that showed me was like, you've never talked shit or poked fun at anyone you're fighting, but somehow, suddenly, you're poking fun at me. | ||
| That's showing your first card. | ||
| You're showing your first hand. | ||
| And a lot of things he did throughout the backtracking and whatnot, I was like, you're showing me your hand. | ||
| You're acting out of character. | ||
| Even my coach said the same thing. | ||
| And I said, just do what got you to the dance. | ||
| Don't try and talk shit with a guy who knows how to talk shit. | ||
| I know he knows how to talk shit with his friends and shit like that, but not with me. | ||
| The internet kid is different. | ||
| Don't make memes against me. | ||
| I'm a mean majesty. | ||
| But like, yeah. | ||
| And then when he came to the cage, you saw me when I walked up, I stomped the yard. | ||
| Stomped the yard and I entered the cage. | ||
| And when he came in, I could feel it. | ||
| He was like, let's fucking go! | ||
| You know, beating the chest. | ||
| The thing he did. | ||
| And he took about a minute and a bit before he looked me in the eyes. | ||
| And I was looking at him the whole time. | ||
| And he, like a cat. | ||
| You corner, even a chicken. | ||
| Get one of your chickens, corner it like a rooster. | ||
| It's dangerous. | ||
| When you corner any kind of beast, they'll attack you at any point. | ||
| So I could see him pacing back and forth like a caged animal. | ||
| And the whole time, he was the hunter and I was the hunter. | ||
| So I was watching him and I could feel it. | ||
| You're not really about this. | ||
| And he's trying to hype himself. | ||
| Let's fucking go! | ||
| And I could just smell that. | ||
| And when I went in my stance, I was like, whoop, whoop! | ||
| Like, this is something I was doing during sparring, like during my training camp. | ||
| So I was just triggering this muscle memory in my head. | ||
| And I was just having fun. | ||
| There's a point I looked at him, I kind of smiled like, fuck yeah, I got this. | ||
| And I just knew from that point, man. | ||
| I was on it. | ||
| And the first round, I thought I lost the first round without the knockdown. | ||
| Just like, I let him have it. | ||
| But then I watched it back. | ||
| I threw less strikes. | ||
| I landed more. | ||
| He threw more strikes and landed less. | ||
| All I was doing was just, and me and Eugene talked about this, like, let the first round, the first half of the fight, let's see what he does. | ||
| Just get all his attacks. | ||
| Make him show his hand. | ||
| Make him draw, you know, draw the attacks out of him. | ||
| And I did that. | ||
| And after I watched it again, I was like, yeah, without the knock, then I still had the round. | ||
| It was a brilliant performance, and the knockdown at the end of the first round was essentially the end of the fight. | ||
| He was fucked up. | ||
| There was a bad knockdown. | ||
| You could see when he went back to his corner, there's a moment where you see his eyes are just not quite there. | ||
| Even before the second round, he stood up, and when Kelvin rocked me, after I got rocked my first time being rocked in the UFC, In the second round, before the second round, I was like, alright, let's go. | ||
| Let's step it up. | ||
| He was looking at the screen. | ||
| Robert was looking at the screen like, what hit me? | ||
| What hit me? | ||
| And I was like, hey, hey, that's in the past. | ||
| That's done. | ||
| Focus on me right now anyway. | ||
| I was like, alright then, let's go. | ||
| When it was over, when they stopped the fight, you raised your hand, what's that feeling like, knowing that you're the undisputed champ? | ||
| It felt like just my title defense, honestly. | ||
| Atlanta was the one where they put my hand up and I felt like, yes. | ||
| Why Atlanta? | ||
| Why that? | ||
| Because the fight was so hard? | ||
| Yeah, I think because of the way the fight went, the back and forth, and then me, that fifth round. | ||
| I found out who I was after that fifth round. | ||
| I found out the depths I'm willing to go. | ||
| So when they put my hand up, and you're beat up and all that kind of stuff. | ||
| And also, I never had a belt before, so I've never had it wrapped around my waist as I visualize it. | ||
| So once that happened, boom, I felt like yes. | ||
| And also I was looking, I was like, please judges, don't screw me over. | ||
| Don't fuck me over on this, man. | ||
| And I knew I had it, but you know. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Bruh. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| And then look at the Darren Till-Gaston fight. | ||
| So when they put my hand up, I was like, yes. | ||
| But then this time they put my hand up. | ||
| I was like, all right. | ||
| And the thing is, my brain wants to move forward, because I did it in kickboxing, because I was undefeated for so long, so it was always like, alright, cool, what's next? | ||
| I'll watch the fight maybe once, study it, alright, what's next? | ||
| But now I have to chill, relax, look at the tape, look at what you've done, and then soak it in, smell the roses for a little bit, and then move on. | ||
| Because once I had my first loss... | ||
| I took winning for granted because it was just a habit. | ||
| I was always winning, always winning, always winning. | ||
| So now I have to like, when you win, when you do something amazing, like I did in Atlanta, like I did in Melbourne, just chill. | ||
| Smell the roses and then move forward. | ||
| When you entered the fifth round against Kelvin, you said, I'm ready to die. | ||
| I looked at him, and I remember, I call it Ese Diablo. | ||
| He was looking at me, and he just had this look, and he's just swinging his hands. | ||
| And I said, you're not going to beat me. | ||
| I'm prepared to die. | ||
| And I meant that, man. | ||
| I swear to God on my life, I meant that. | ||
| I'm even getting goosebumps thinking, see that? | ||
| I'm getting goosebumps, too. | ||
| Like, I meant that shit, because I was like, look, and I signed my death warrant right there. | ||
| I was like, look, if this is how I die, this is how I die. | ||
| But, you see me, I was trying to get him. | ||
| I was trying to kill him. | ||
| I knew, because for me, if I'm ready to die, I'm ready to kill. | ||
| You have to be willing to give something up as well. | ||
| So in that fifth round when I was throwing those shots, I think I dropped him like four times or something crazy. | ||
| Even the last one went from heaven and hit him. | ||
| I wish I didn't follow and roll over on him because I probably could have got him out with like two seconds left. | ||
| But I was trying to get him out of there, man. | ||
| And it's sad to say, but if he had taken it to me and if he had done that to me and I didn't wake up, so be it. | ||
| Well, that was evident in the way you fought because it was a close fight, but it looked like you were ahead on the judges, but you didn't take any break at all. | ||
| You threw yourself into the fire instead of being cautious. | ||
| I told that to Dana. | ||
| Dana and I were talking about that fight, and he was talking about how hyped he is for Whitaker. | ||
| They tried to get me to fly to Australia. | ||
| I love you, bro, but I'm not doing that. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| Even me, like right now, I've canceled a lot of my trips because also, you know, my knee, but also just FOMO, being away from the gym, like, you feel it after a while, especially at this level. | ||
| Like, after the fight, because you can see the target on your back, people smiling in your face, you know? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And then, yeah, I know what's up. | ||
| I'm not stupid. | ||
| I've seen a lot of people in this game rise and fall 100% all the time, so I want to get back to doing what I do best. | ||
| Dana and I have these conversations sometimes. | ||
| We get hyped up and talk on the phone, and we were talking about that fight. | ||
| And I said, do you know what he said? | ||
| You literally said it. | ||
| I have it as a highlight I made by myself. | ||
| And then I had it in the captions, and I was like, you know, you're going to beat me. | ||
| I'm ready to die. | ||
| I'm prepared to die. | ||
| That's some movie-type shit, man. | ||
| That is movie-type shit, especially when you win. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| And Dana just went, holy shit. | ||
| I said, dude, watch it. | ||
| Just watch it again. | ||
| He's saying it. | ||
| I mouth it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was intense. | ||
| That was a hell of a fight, man. | ||
| That was a hell of a fight. | ||
| Yeah, I don't want to have much like those. | ||
| But you have to get that. | ||
| Because after that fight, probably about two minutes after, I was like, I can go another two rounds. | ||
| I felt it. | ||
| I was like, this is like the third wind. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And I'm not just saying this to gas you up. | ||
| I was like, I can go another two rounds. | ||
| And you can see it. | ||
| I felt fresh, man. | ||
| This was my second, fifth, five-round fight. | ||
| When I fought this time last year against, what's his name? | ||
| On July last year, Brad Tavares. | ||
| Fifth round, I was just having fun. | ||
| I wouldn't say I took my foot off the pedal, but I was having fun with it. | ||
| And this fight, like I said, fifth round, I was ready. | ||
| And I said that for the Romero fight. | ||
| And what's his name? | ||
| Whitaker fight. | ||
| I said, look how he looked in the fifth round. | ||
| He's got gas. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| He can crack. | ||
| Same thing with Romero. | ||
| But Romero and him, they don't have the same kind of spice as I do. | ||
| When I'm in the trenches, when it's time to go, I can go. | ||
| Because I do it in the gym every day. | ||
| You wanted Romero for your next fight. | ||
| There's resistance about that? | ||
| I'm a charitable guy sometimes, man. | ||
| I'm a charitable guy. | ||
| He's coming off three out of four losses, three in a row. | ||
| Yeah, but all of those could have been his. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And also, the people, the casuals, they think this is the guy. | ||
| Well, first of all, I think Brunton was the guy. | ||
| And then Gaslam was the guy. | ||
| And then Whitaker is the guy. | ||
| So they think this is the guy to beat me. | ||
| So I'm like, all right, this is my charity work for the year. | ||
| Well, he's an interesting fight for anybody. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| Because he's a freak athlete. | ||
| I mean, you look up freak in the dictionary, you see a picture of Yoel Romero flying through the air, hitting Chris Weidman with a knee. | ||
| I mean, he's just a freak. | ||
| I remember his first fight, I saw him, he did the same thing to this black guy, bald black guy, flying knee, boom, and just kind of starched him, just ran at him. | ||
| But... | ||
| This is what rises me to the occasion. | ||
| This is what challenges me. | ||
| Because a guy like that, like you say, he's a beast. | ||
| Same thing with Robert. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| But there's levels to this. | ||
| And if you can make that look easy, it just makes you look like your status. | ||
| Legendary. | ||
| All that shit. | ||
| That's what you want. | ||
| So you want to look easy against you. | ||
| This is nice, but it just looks good. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But it's all about the challenges. | ||
| Taking out Robert Whittaker in the second round in his home country. | ||
| You know, doing that to Romero, maybe not in Cuba, I don't know what the situation is like there, but like in Vegas, in a big arena, T-Mobile arena, that would be fucking dope. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Dana said, you know, he's got to get a win first. | ||
| Thing is, they don't know how to sell it, like, to the people. | ||
| And I'm like, fuck it, let's do it anyway. | ||
| And I've said, and even his manager at the fights, for whatever reason, while I was walking, was like, hey, Israel, we signed the contract. | ||
| And I was like, I didn't know who it was. | ||
| And he was like, hey, we signed the contract. | ||
| Just tell Dana. | ||
| I was like, okay. | ||
| Had my drink in my hand, kept going walking. | ||
| Like, cool story, bro. | ||
| We signed the card. | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| Dana said there's no deal. | ||
| Yeah, but he was trying to say, you know, it's the hype. | ||
| And then, like, someone might... | ||
| They sent me this other video of him in the gym saying, Israel, why you backing now? | ||
| Why you backing now? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Just tell Dana the fucking day. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| I love you! | ||
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Israel, I love you! | |
| He can love me all he wants. | ||
| He don't love me. | ||
| But I'm saying, like, I want to do the fight. | ||
| I said, look, this is a guy, right? | ||
| This is a guy, he's going to take me down and beat the fuck out of me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No one's been able to do that yet. | ||
| So let's see if this guy can do it, or let's see if I can take him down. | ||
| Well, the thing is, too, you have to get him now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he's 41 now, I think. | ||
| 40, 41? | ||
| He's old. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's Cuban years. | ||
| And that's what they're going to say. | ||
| Oh, you know, you beat up, you know... | ||
| He's still a beast. | ||
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He's still a beast. | |
| I keep telling people as well. | ||
| When he fought Robert Whitaker, they didn't have that narrative. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think he beat Whitaker. | ||
| I think the second time he beat Whitaker. | ||
| Look how many times he dropped him, man. | ||
| He hurt him badly. | ||
| And if you look at those 10-8 rules, you know, the new rules, he won. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| If you look at, you judge it by the new judging system, he won. | ||
| I thought he won, period. | ||
| I just thought he won. | ||
| I mean, and Whitaker's a fucking animal, man. | ||
| He hung in there with that guy blasting him on the chin, but he hurt him, and he hurt him bad several times. | ||
| But the Polo Costa fight... | ||
| Oh, my guy. | ||
| That's my guy. | ||
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That's your boy. | |
| My favorite friend. | ||
| Live in la vida, Costa. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I felt like that fight was legit. | ||
| Either one could have got that title. | ||
| I think I agreed with it when Costa won. | ||
| I said, okay, I could see that. | ||
| But if they gave it to Romero, I would be like, well, I could see that too. | ||
| I think Costa won that fight. | ||
| I'll give Costa. | ||
| Like I said, he just stole it. | ||
| Just stole it. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's the way to look at it. | ||
| Just stole it. | ||
| When he dropped him in the first round, that really solidified it. | ||
| And Romero was trying his best to come back, but just a step behind. | ||
| In my eyes, anyway. | ||
| But like you said, hey, roll the dice sometimes. | ||
| The thing that's shocking about Romero is how well he takes a shot. | ||
| There's a picture of Costa kicking him in the head that I put on Instagram where it looks like his soul is leaving his body. | ||
| Like his eyes are rolling back in his head. | ||
| That shin is wrapping around his head. | ||
| His whole head is distorted. | ||
| I think it's the traps. | ||
| And he didn't flinch. | ||
| It's all those traps. | ||
| Yeah, he just holds his head in place, holds his brain in place. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Like the stem just doesn't move. | ||
| Well, you know, he had a pretty severe neck injury. | ||
| If you look at the back of his neck, he's got a giant scar up his neck. | ||
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For real. | |
| He had his discs fused. | ||
| Look at that picture. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| What in the fuck, dude? | ||
| That sent his face into the fucking black hole of another universe. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| I mean, that is full impact. | ||
| You can turn the hip on that. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| It's all in. | ||
| Robert did one on him as well, but this is a lot cleaner, a lot nicer. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| I mean, he's taking giant shots. | ||
| I think Brunson hit him with a high head kick as well, wrapped around the neck. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| I think his neck is like one solid piece. | ||
| It just goes right... | ||
| I don't know what the fuck they did in Cuba to his neck when they did that operation on it. | ||
| But he's all fused up and... | ||
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He's all kind of stiff! | |
| Does he? | ||
| I've seen him around. | ||
| Especially when he's not cutting weight. | ||
| He's tight. | ||
| He's a heavy boy. | ||
| He's huge. | ||
| But... | ||
| You know he can move for 43. He can move. | ||
| He's real flexible. | ||
| I've seen. | ||
| Very flexible. | ||
| I've seen him doing the splits when he was doing that dance on one clip. | ||
| That Cuban Olympic program is no joke. | ||
| When he described it, he came on with Joey Diaz. | ||
| Did you watch that one? | ||
| I saw bits of it. | ||
| It was amazing because Joey was translating from Cuban to English and they were talking about the program. | ||
| They just train them and they put them in this situation where if you win, you get more food and you get a better place to stay. | ||
| And if you lose, you get two meals a day if you lose, you get three meals a day if you win. | ||
| And these guys, they're competing against the best in the world. | ||
| And it's just every day is battle, battle. | ||
| You know, he's like, everybody I'm with wants to kill me. | ||
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And you become a machine. | |
| I'm a machine! | ||
| It's just like, you know, and you see the dude. | ||
| First of all, when you're sitting across from him, you're like, okay, with you, I know you're heavier than 185 pounds, but it's feasible. | ||
| What do you like? | ||
| What do you walk around at? | ||
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Like 200? | |
| Right now, I guess 203. Yeah, that's feasible. | ||
| Yoel looks like he's 220. America, you got to realize, man. | ||
| The food. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Like, I forget every time. | ||
| You gotta order small. | ||
| Because you order nachos, like, large. | ||
| They come in in a platter. | ||
| Yeah, people like to get fat over here. | ||
| We like everything big. | ||
| Luckily, metabolism for me is good. | ||
| You like it, yeah. | ||
| We like everything big over here. | ||
| Everything outrageous. | ||
| Yeah, this is an outrageous country. | ||
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Exhibit A. Yeah, exhibit A. Blowtorch. | |
| Well, you were saying even drinks. | ||
| They pour bigger drinks over here. | ||
| Yeah, like... | ||
| I'm surprised. | ||
| I think it's part of the culture as well. | ||
| You say a double, they're like, no, it comes in a double. | ||
| I'm like, oh, double-double? | ||
| And then literally you have to ask for more Coke or more Fanta or whatever. | ||
| The ice helps though, man. | ||
| Do you like New Zealand? | ||
| I love New Zealand, man. | ||
| There was a time from, I think it was going into the New Year's of 2011. | ||
| I was driving down from Auckland to Whanganui. | ||
| And I was just going through by myself in my old car, Chewy, rapping, singing, just having fun. | ||
| And I was just looking at the landscape. | ||
| And that was the moment I decided that this is where I'm going to stay. | ||
| This is the country I'm going to live in. | ||
| Because I always had this idea that I'm going to go to Canada or America eventually. | ||
| But also because my gym's over there. | ||
| My team's over there. | ||
| Eugene's over there. | ||
| My family. | ||
| I've made friends there. | ||
| I've grown up there. | ||
| It's my other country. | ||
| So I love it over there. | ||
| I love the vibe as well. | ||
| It's a beautiful country. | ||
| You haven't been there? | ||
| I haven't been. | ||
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I want to go. | |
| I saw Chad Mendes went through. | ||
| And go to Big Red. | ||
| Yeah, you go out there. | ||
| You can catch something, man. | ||
| That's like a 13-pointer I counted before. | ||
| Yeah, you can get some shit. | ||
| Yeah, they have giant stags over there. | ||
| I just imagine like that with something that's 800 pounds behind it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or what is that? | ||
| 1,000 pounds? | ||
| Something crazy? | ||
| Yeah, that one that I have out in the front was over 1,000 pounds. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| The one when you walk in? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was huge. | ||
| I've seen some next to cars as well on YouTube. | ||
| Just get some perspective. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, fuck all that. | ||
| Have you eaten any of that? | ||
| See, I told you the story. | ||
| This maid. | ||
| What was the place? | ||
| Costco. | ||
| I asked her, I was going to go to Utah. | ||
| Not Utah. | ||
| I was going to go to Alex Volkanovski's fight. | ||
| So I asked her, where can I go get a chili bin? | ||
| And I went to Costco while they were cleaning out the Airbnb. | ||
| And I also had some Nigerian food I ordered as well from Texas. | ||
| So when I got back, raxed everything. | ||
| And I was like, fuck. | ||
| And then you text me how to cook it and everything. | ||
| And my coach, Eugene, because I really wanted to, he's an avid hunter. | ||
| Like, after fights, first place, he goes in the bush. | ||
| Because he wants to get away from all this. | ||
| So I was like, I gotta share this with him. | ||
| And then, yeah, they racked it, man. | ||
| I'm sure they kept it. | ||
| They threw it in the bin. | ||
| I'm sure they kept it, but I hope they enjoyed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I got to try some milk one day, definitely. | ||
| I will. | ||
| Anytime, man. | ||
| Anytime you're around here. | ||
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Appreciate that. | |
| We want to set up a kitchen in here, in the studio. | ||
| This is like the new Fantasy Factory, you know? | ||
| Like, actually, you walk around, and I'm like, man, I need one of these. | ||
| You do need one of these. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have a gym, and right next to the gym, a fun house. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you know? | ||
| It's good to have everything where I can do it all in one place, too. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Because me, I just don't have any time. | ||
| Yeah, so you need everything right there. | ||
| Yeah, it helps. | ||
| I can come in here two hours before a show, get a full workout in, shower, everything, even sauna. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| You know, get it all done in one spot. | ||
| If you got a kitchen, definitely. | ||
| I could have made me a sandwich or something. | ||
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Yeah, man. | |
| We got a little baby kitchen, but we got to set up a grill in here. | ||
| What I was getting about New Zealand is the beauty, man. | ||
| There's something, I think, that when people think about places and places to live, you think, oh, it's convenient. | ||
| This is an easy commute. | ||
| It's a nice apartment or it's a nice house, whatever it is. | ||
| But there's something about natural beauty that And it doesn't really get much more beautiful than New Zealand. | ||
| And the South Island as well. | ||
| The North Island's cool. | ||
| There's some spots. | ||
| There's a lot of places. | ||
| For me, I travel all around the world. | ||
| But whenever I fly in and I see the Sky Tower, and you can see the landscape of the place, it's beautiful. | ||
| And I feel like Marshall when he sees the hills and he's about to go for a hike. | ||
| I'm just like, yes, almost home, almost home. | ||
| But like, it's such a beautiful place. | ||
| Queenstown, the South Island, the snow there. | ||
| I haven't been, but I've seen everyone posting about it. | ||
| But one day I'm going to go. | ||
| There's snow in New Zealand? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
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Oh yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Mount Ropehu, that's where I've been snowing, snowboarding years ago. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| South Island I've been to years ago when I was younger, like 12. But definitely as an adult, I got to go. | ||
| It's different when you go with your parents and when you go in as an adult. | ||
| So I got to go out there, man. | ||
| It's fucking beautiful. | ||
| It's a crazy place when it comes to wildlife because they brought it all from Europe. | ||
| Yeah, they did. | ||
| Even, like, I'm surprised. | ||
| In Auckland, there's an island called Waiheke Island. | ||
| It's probably about a 20-minute ferry ride from the city. | ||
| And there's wallabies on there. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| And apparently, they're an invasive species because the guy brought them from Australia. | ||
| But then, luckily, they're kept on the island now. | ||
| But I've heard rumors now they've kind of found their way because, you know, some crazy fuck decided, I'm going to keep this. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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And then... | |
| They found their way to like Rotorua, the Redwoods and all that kind of shit. | ||
| It's always some crazy fuck that wants a pet. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Florida's got a giant problem with that. | ||
| Yeah, with anacondas. | ||
| What do you call it? | ||
| What's that guy? | ||
| Tarzan guy. | ||
| He catches them all the time. | ||
| Iguanas. | ||
| Iguanas as well. | ||
| There's a lot of them and they're killing them now. | ||
| Yeah, they're culling them. | ||
| They give you money if you kill iguanas. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, because they're digging under houses. | ||
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They dig tunnels under houses as the foundations collapse. | |
| I didn't even know they dig. | ||
| I thought they were just in trees. | ||
| I thought so too. | ||
| Yeah, you learn something new every day. | ||
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Apparently they dig. | |
| They have so many pythons there. | ||
| They said there's no more rabbits. | ||
| There's no more marsh hares, raccoons, deer. | ||
| Everything's gone. | ||
| All pythons. | ||
| Pythons are eating alligators. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh yeah, I've seen. | ||
| I see them and they burst out. | ||
| I see their legs sticking out and shit like that. | ||
| They even found Nile crocodiles in the Everglades. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Some crazy fuck. | ||
| Some asshole brought a Nile crocodile. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They have a kill on sight warning. | ||
| Isn't it like, was it Texas? | ||
| They have more tigers? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Or lions? | ||
| Yeah, that was my Netflix special. | ||
| There's more tigers in Texas than all of the wild of the world. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Texas is so crazy. | |
| Do you spend much time out there? | ||
| I've been there, when I first went there was when I think when I first met you, UFC 192, DC Gustafson. | ||
| Yeah, I was there. | ||
| It was a good time. | ||
| I didn't really, I just ate. | ||
| That's what I did there, just eat and hang out. | ||
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Barbecue. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Barbecue in Texas. | ||
| See, Dan was cutting away. | ||
| This was when he was at Featherweight. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fucking had me. | ||
| I don't know how the fuck that guy ever made Featherweight. | ||
| Bro, he, like, I ask him, how you feeling? | ||
| He's like, I feel great. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, you feel great. | ||
| I was hooked. | ||
| That was a mark. | ||
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That was a mark. | |
| Afterwards, he's like, nah, I don't have to lightweight. | ||
| And you see him at lightweight now. | ||
| Much better. | ||
| Bro, I'm telling you, he's the one. | ||
| He could be. | ||
| I've seen some things, man. | ||
| He's a tough guy. | ||
| I've had him on my back for four minutes of a five-minute round sparring, and he's hard to get off. | ||
| And he's good. | ||
| Some people in the gym, they shine, and some people under the bright lights, they shine. | ||
| Some people can do both. | ||
| And I'm telling you, yeah, he's the one. | ||
| People don't know yet. | ||
| There's some things he hasn't shown of his game that I'm sure that... | ||
| So I was in the room when DC and John Anik were doing the fighter... | ||
| What do you call it? | ||
| Interview. | ||
| So I did my one first, and then they did Dan. | ||
| Dan was telling me, like, John asked about the champs. | ||
| How would you beat Khabib? | ||
| And he said he just saw DC go. | ||
| Like lean in like what? | ||
| And then he had to kind of just say some bullshit, whatever. | ||
| DC asked me to help him train for the Jones fight, the second one. | ||
| And I turned it down because they had Rockhold in their camp. | ||
| And I wasn't in the UFC at the time, but I knew. | ||
| I don't want to give them anything. | ||
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Right. | |
| I don't want to give them anything. | ||
| I don't want them to say, oh, he came to our camp like I did with Black Zillions. | ||
| And then they say, oh, you know, we see holes in this game, which is all bullshit. | ||
| But yeah, I just... | ||
| You just don't want the chat. | ||
| I don't want anything. | ||
| I want nothing. | ||
| I don't want to give them nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, because I always knew this was coming. | ||
| So I was like, plan it. | ||
| Plot your way. | ||
| But you and I talked on Instagram years ago. | ||
| 2014. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we were talking. | ||
| I was like, when am I going to see you, bro? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But hey, I said, give me my time. | ||
| Let me work. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I've been working, man. | ||
| I've been working. | ||
| Well, I pay attention. | ||
| I pay attention to dudes who shine. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Outside. | ||
| I know guys who are coming. | ||
| I know guys who are coming up. | ||
| But I knew you had been thinking about MMA. And I've been a fan of you as a kickboxer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've been working about it. | ||
| Well, I'm always fascinated by elite specialists that make their way into MMA. Because I'm always like, well, how is this going to translate? | ||
| I think that it seems harder... | ||
| It seems harder for a lot of grapplers who don't have a background in striking. | ||
| I mean, I think grappling can be the most important thing in MMA because if you can't stop a guy from taking you down, you're going to lose. | ||
| But you have to start every fight on your feet. | ||
| And when you see a guy who doesn't have good striking fight a guy who has elite striking, like a good example this past weekend was Kevin Lee versus Gregor Gillespie. | ||
| Gregor Gillespie is a fucking fantastic wrestler, elite wrestler, and Kevin Lee's a better striker. | ||
| And you see that every fight, and Kevin Lee has a wrestling background too, so it's no picnic taking that guy down, but you see when a guy's a better striker, has more weapons, and then Gregor gets high-kicked. | ||
| It's a different kind of feel. | ||
| And also one thing Eugene and Andre, my wrestling coach, alluded to is people forget the takedowns, the wrestling starts way before the clinch. | ||
| It starts way before you get taken down or way before you engage. | ||
| It's all about positioning, foot positioning. | ||
| It's all about distance control. | ||
| So once you have that and you understand the principles of that, your wrestling becomes easy. | ||
| I don't know if it's the highest takedown defense percentage in the UFC's middleweight division. | ||
| It's pretty goddamn good. | ||
| It's high. | ||
| The only time was in my second fight when the guy in the third round, I didn't break the grip and he sucked my leg in immediately after. | ||
| Because I normally room with Andre. | ||
| He just kind of told me what to do. | ||
| I was like, okay, ever since that, in training, no one ever gets that on me. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Rarely gets that on me. | ||
| So, I'm always improving, man. | ||
| Like I said, even right now, FOMO. I feel like fear of missing out because I see everyone training at the gym. | ||
| You keep saying FOMO. Oh, fear of missing out. | ||
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That's it. | |
| Yeah, it's an acronym. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's what the kids are saying. | ||
| I know the kids say it, but I never bothered looking at what it means. | ||
| It's fear of missing out. | ||
| So, like, I see, like, on the group chat what the team's doing and I see them working the 10 a.m. | ||
| squad. | ||
| Shout out to the 10 a.m. | ||
| squad where they at. | ||
| And you start feeling it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm just like, yeah, 100%. | ||
| Especially, like, Just the young guys coming up, you know? | ||
| I see it, and I'm not stupid, man. | ||
| I know the target's on my back. | ||
| It's easy to get this, but it's hard to keep it. | ||
| So, yeah, I want to make sure I'm... | ||
| I want to do what Demetrius did. | ||
| I want to do what Silva did, you know? | ||
| I want to be one of those guys who just racks it up, get all the Infinity Stones. | ||
| All the gems. | ||
| Now, what happens if they overrun the outside of this thing with gems? | ||
| Give me a new belt. | ||
| They used to give you a new belt every time. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'll stop putting these ones, all the gems on these bits. | ||
| Guys like Stipe, Stipe has a shitload of belts. | ||
| It would have been cool. | ||
| I was looking forward to that. | ||
| I might. | ||
| I'm sure I can buy some of that. | ||
| Talk to somebody. | ||
| What did you think about the BMF belt? | ||
| Yeah, it's a touchy subject, right? | ||
| I felt like, well, I like the idea. | ||
| You know, the fact that Nate Diaz, you know, he ain't no West Coast gangster, you know, and they're, you know, from Miami, you know, whatever. | ||
| They should have kept that between them. | ||
| The company didn't have to get involved. | ||
| They didn't have to get involved to, like, try and solidify this. | ||
| But what it was was they needed a title for the MSG card because Kobe and Usman and what else here happened. | ||
| But look at this. | ||
| Misha Tate versus Holly Holm was the co-main event as a title fight for Diaz. | ||
| McGregor won. | ||
| So, that fight itself would have been fine without the belt, without the rock, without all that kind of stuff. | ||
| But, it happened. | ||
| And, yeah, it's cool. | ||
| What's going to happen now? | ||
| Is he going to defend it? | ||
| Because even the ego in me is like, I don't know. | ||
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Ha ha ha! | |
| What are you doing? | ||
| What are you doing, Masvidal? | ||
| But like, I mean, there's no point. | ||
| Because are they going to defend the belt? | ||
| Are they going to... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I feel like Masvidal is championship caliber. | ||
| I might put some fucking spinners on this now and then do like John Cena and call this the freestyle belt. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| You know, I see what you're saying, but... | ||
| I feel like Masvidal's world championship caliber. | ||
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Fuck yeah, 100%. | |
| 100%. | ||
| I've been a fan of that guy since way back. | ||
| Everyone's just finding out now. | ||
| All these guys are like, oh, Street Jesus. | ||
| I'm like, well, I'm not a hipster. | ||
| I knew him before. | ||
| He was cool, man. | ||
| I don't want to be that guy. | ||
| But I like his resurrection. | ||
| I like the fact that he rebranded himself. | ||
| Because you have to do that. | ||
| I see it in movies. | ||
| I see actors do it, entertainment. | ||
| You rebrand yourself, new package, and then boom. | ||
| Do you know what happened with him? | ||
| He said he went away. | ||
| He did this reality show in South America. | ||
| Yeah, so I watched it, but he said he went away and had time to himself. | ||
| Smart man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, what happened was, he was on this reality show, and Dan Lambert said it was a terrible, terrible experience. | ||
| He's by himself all day, no phone. | ||
| He had to go into the village to get food. | ||
| There's no fucking food. | ||
| Where was the island? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| Somewhere in South America. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But the experience was, it was several months, and it was a disaster. | ||
| And he didn't like it at all. | ||
| And then it... | ||
| He forced him to think about where he's at, where he could be. | ||
| And one of the things he was saying is all these split decisions. | ||
| And he was thinking, why did it go that way instead of the other way? | ||
| Why did I lose that fight instead of win it? | ||
| Because there was a lot of them that were really close. | ||
| And he was thinking, well, maybe I could have done a little bit more and won that fight. | ||
| And then he said, why am I thinking like a fucking peasant? | ||
| He goes, why don't I just knock that motherfucker out? | ||
| And so that shift in his mentality changed. | ||
| And then all of a sudden he mercs Donald Cerrone, mercs Darren Till, mercs Ben Askren. | ||
| Beats the fuck out of Nate Diaz. | ||
| He's a different person now. | ||
| And now he's what he could have been. | ||
| He is potential realized. | ||
| He's like a rebirth. | ||
| He's at 100%. | ||
| He's at 100% right now. | ||
| You get in the cage with that guy. | ||
| He's even thinking about boxing with Canelo. | ||
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Yes! | |
| My man, crazy. | ||
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Yes! | |
| It was interesting. | ||
| Fucking cajones, man. | ||
| Cajones to the guy. | ||
| He's got them all. | ||
| I mean, his thought is like, hey, man, I can do more than Conor McGregor did, and I'm not going to fade. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He can. | ||
| And I think, because I watched the fight again. | ||
| It's different when you watch it live. | ||
| When I was watching it live, I saw Diaz coming back, and he was in the third round. | ||
| And I was swinging towards Diaz like, oh, maybe he won that round. | ||
| But I watched it back and I'm like, nah, he had all three. | ||
| And Diaz was, like I said, he was coming back. | ||
| But on the scorecards, yeah, I think he already had it. | ||
| In a couple of those rounds, you could make an argument for 10-8s. | ||
| He beat the fuck out of Diaz in that first round. | ||
| I think he hit him in the gut. | ||
| And Diaz, tactical move, vet move, just dropped down. | ||
| Just dropped down. | ||
| So he's like, all right, come with my guard. | ||
| Because he probably got hurt to the body. | ||
| I heard one of them. | ||
| It was nasty, man. | ||
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100%. | |
| That right body kick. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It slipped because Diaz tried to block it on you, and it just went right underneath it. | ||
| And the thing I hate as well, inspiring, is when you kick the elbow. | ||
| You ever tried that? | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Yeah, I broke my foot doing that. | ||
| Everybody does. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Fuck my foot. | ||
| I cracked it doing that as well. | ||
| The tip of the elbow is so hard, and the top of your foot is so soft. | ||
| It takes a real skill, like Darren Till has it as well, where they can sneak it underneath. | ||
| It's a different angle. | ||
| Eugene taught me how to do it, so... | ||
| Yeah, I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's one of my moves. | ||
| I hit Tavares with it as well before I swept him. | ||
| You have to learn how to sweep just right underneath. | ||
| You got your eye on Till? | ||
| Till now is 185 pounds. | ||
| Interesting guy. | ||
| I saw him last year on the press conference leading up to the Bronson fight. | ||
| I even said, look, I can't wait till we do it, man. | ||
| I know one day we'll clash. | ||
| And it's just because of the styles. | ||
| Styles make fights. | ||
| And he's got a style that I like. | ||
| Very basic. | ||
| But when I say basic, I don't mean that with disrespect. | ||
| I say he's got strong basics. | ||
| He's a southpaw. | ||
| He's a nice straight left. | ||
| Nice body kick. | ||
| Curves the left. | ||
| He knows how to change it up. | ||
| And then the clinch as well when he gets close. | ||
| I like what he did with Gastelum. | ||
| He played the distance game well. | ||
| I learned it in the third round. | ||
| I kind of learned it in the fight. | ||
| But Gastelum was doing something to get close. | ||
| What happened in the third round? | ||
| No, in the third round, I knew where his... | ||
| Like, right after the fight, me and Eugene watched the fight. | ||
| We're like, fuck, that's what he did. | ||
| That's how we got so close. | ||
| And we knew already. | ||
| But it was hard to call it in the fight because we were too focused on other things. | ||
| But I think automatically through muscle memory, I was able to take that distance away from him in the fight. | ||
| From the third round. | ||
| But for the first... | ||
| I think for the first round and some of the second round, he was able to like use... | ||
| It's a little hop step. | ||
| Everyone knows it now. | ||
| It's a little hop step. | ||
| He'd jab me, jab me, put it in my face. | ||
| It's like a little... | ||
| So you're calculating his movement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not doing it this way. | ||
| I'm doing it like, you know, it's muscle memory. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Memory. | ||
| It's your memory of fights and sparring and knowing what you can do versus knowing what you see him doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And just like, it's like a dance. | ||
| So he comes this way. | ||
| That's super hard to explain to people. | ||
| They don't understand. | ||
| While you look at a guy and you're like, listen to me, that guy's going to fuck that guy up. | ||
| And people go, what are you talking about? | ||
| I'm like, listen to me. | ||
| When Anderson Silva first fought Chris Lieben, I remember the odds were real close. | ||
| And I pulled a friend on my side and said, bet the house. | ||
| Bet the house on Anderson. | ||
| He goes, are you serious? | ||
| I go, bet the house. | ||
| I go, bet the house. | ||
| I go, this guy's an assassin. | ||
| This is a different thing. | ||
| You've seen a different thing. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| This is one of the rare, the fucking sky has to fall for him to lose. | ||
| No one knew. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| No one knew who he was until that happened. | ||
| But I'd watch all those Caged Warriors fight when he was standing in front of Jorge Rivera and letting him punch him in the face. | ||
| He's just rolling with it, man. | ||
| Just rolling with it. | ||
| He did it to me as well. | ||
| People don't understand this. | ||
| And they said, ah, fucking casuals. | ||
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Casuals. | |
| And a lot of experts as well have casual brains because they're like, you know. | ||
| Israel has no knockout power because he hit Henderson Silver in the face clean. | ||
| I'm like, you don't understand this. | ||
| Anderson is playing the game. | ||
| Me and him are playing this game. | ||
| So when I hit him, I didn't hit him clean. | ||
| I'm not trying to hit him where he is. | ||
| I'm trying to hit him where he's going to be. | ||
| But then he knows that as well. | ||
| So he'd anticipate that and then pause him. | ||
| The distance is just right, so it just nicks him. | ||
| There's a time I kicked him in the face, and I slowed it down to my Instagram. | ||
| Just went, and just, like, my toe, literally, you see my toes, they're ugly as fuck. | ||
| Like, it just nicked the top lip. | ||
| And I went, she's close, because I felt it. | ||
| I felt my toe nicking. | ||
| And we're playing this game. | ||
| But literally, I was trying to hit him where he's going to be. | ||
| But then he paused. | ||
| And then the punch would just... | ||
| So it looked cool. | ||
| But I was like, I didn't hit him clean. | ||
| We're playing this game. | ||
| And people don't understand. | ||
| People who've never fought, they don't understand that game you're playing. | ||
| Yeah, it was beautiful, man. | ||
| I love that fight. | ||
| I love that fight, too. | ||
| It was boring. | ||
| I was like, fuck. | ||
| That was iconic, man. | ||
| I wish he had left after that fight, man. | ||
| Because I wanted to be the one. | ||
| The people are silly. | ||
| People are silly. | ||
| That was a great fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's just people that don't have an appreciation for movement and what it takes. | ||
| Most people don't know shit about MMA. No, most people don't know shit about everything. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are experts, air quotes, that don't know shit about what they're talking about. | ||
| The thing about Anderson and you is, God damn, I would have loved to see that fight when Anderson was 10 years younger and you are where you're at right now. | ||
| I'll tell you how it goes. | ||
| How's it go? | ||
| Same way it went. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| He's never had someone do to him what he's done to people. | ||
| Because what I was doing to him, making him jump, making him do... | ||
| Whenever he did this, that's all Fugazi. | ||
| That's all like, oh, you made me face... | ||
| Do you know what Fugazi is? | ||
| I've used it a few times. | ||
| Do you know what it means? | ||
| It's an interesting term. | ||
| There was a limousine company in New York, and they started writing bad checks. | ||
| And so those checks became Fugazi checks. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| Is that Italian? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It was a limousine company called Fugazi Limousines. | ||
| Oh, so it's not a real word. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, it is. | ||
| Is it an Italian word? | ||
| It became an expression. | ||
| Oh, I see. | ||
| It just became an expression. | ||
| Fugazi. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So what... | ||
| This company started writing bad checks, so anytime that something's fake, it's fugazi. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Learn something new every day, like promo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, but like, yeah, so whenever I'd like feint him, or make him jump, or make him react, you know, like, ah, I got you, he'd like... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Trapping hands, kung fu, 52 blocks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there was no sauce to it. | ||
| He went through his career fighting really good fighters, great fighters, but never an elite kickboxer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Never an elite world-class kickboxer, like a world championship caliber fighter like yourself. | ||
| Well, not a kickboxer, but definitely some, like you said, good fighters. | ||
| But the guys, all the guys that he beat of that era, they couldn't last in this era. | ||
| It's a different time now. | ||
| The game has changed. | ||
| The game keeps evolving. | ||
| And it, like... | ||
| How do I say it? | ||
| It's no disrespect, but it's just, if you had me in my prime right now, I'm not even in my prime, kind of in it. | ||
| How old are you now? | ||
| 27? | ||
| Do you 30? | ||
| I know, I try. | ||
| You look good. | ||
| Thank you sir, likewise, likewise, likewise. | ||
| But yeah, it's just pretty much the game of inches, a game of fake, a game of, ha, gotcha. | ||
| And I do that better than him. | ||
| I feel that. | ||
| And, dude, this is a guy I've loved and I've fucking gagged and jizzed about him the whole fucking career. | ||
| Like, he's a fucking... | ||
| I use the wrong words. | ||
|
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Pause. | |
| Play. | ||
| Fast forward. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| Literally, I've fanboyed over the guy his whole career. | ||
| And I've studied him. | ||
| I knew what he was going to do before he'd do it. | ||
| Like, when he tripped me, I was getting up. | ||
| And in my head, I was like, okay, here come that flying knee. | ||
| And then, whoop! | ||
| I did, like, literally, I pressed eject. | ||
| I was like, get the fuck out of Dodge straight away. | ||
| Like, honestly, I was like, I'm not... | ||
| And then he just hugged the case. | ||
| Like, at one point, even, I hit him in the tummy. | ||
| Oh, no, I hit him in the tummy. | ||
| And he touched me in the tummy. | ||
| And I was like, he goes, let me try. | ||
| I was like, no. | ||
| We didn't catch that. | ||
| Or even when, at one point, when he put his hands down, and, like, we were playing that game, and just went... | ||
| I went, stop doing that! | ||
| I threw my hands off. | ||
| I was like, stop doing that! | ||
| There's no one on this fucking planet, if you put your hands down and chin up, that I'll tell you stop doing that. | ||
| But no, hands down, chin up. | ||
| Keep doing that. | ||
| But for whatever reason, I said, stop doing that. | ||
| And I don't know why I said that. | ||
| That's a question I have to answer after I retire and see. | ||
| Because people are like, oh, did you hold back on Anderson? | ||
| I'm like, fuck no. | ||
| I rocked him in the first round. | ||
| And if I had deadened him, I was trying to. | ||
| I was trying to win, but... | ||
| I still have love for the guy and I respect the guy. | ||
| He might not feel the same, but he's a guy that... | ||
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I think he does. | |
| I think he does. | ||
| And he told me, like, he let me know what to do. | ||
| He told me, like I said, don't lose focus. | ||
| And that's why even right now, like I said, FOMO, I'm like, you know, all this shit is cool. | ||
| This victory tour, you know, parading this shit around. | ||
| It's nice, but I want to work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the attitude that makes champions. | ||
| 100%, man. | ||
| Was it weird being across the cage from him? | ||
| Knowing him like... | ||
| Only one moment. | ||
| There was one moment and it was in the third round and he went to the... | ||
| He's like, come on! | ||
| Puts his back against the fence. | ||
| It's what he did to Bisping. | ||
| And he front kicked him in the face. | ||
| He's like, come on! | ||
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Come on! | |
| It's okay! | ||
| And then I kind of sat there. | ||
| And at one point I was just stood there. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to wait too. | ||
| And it was maybe like seven seconds but there's this split second in there that I was just like, holy shit. | ||
| I'm fighting Anderson Silva. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I'm like, fuck off. | ||
| Nah, this is my time. | ||
| And I begged him. | ||
| I was like, nah, he's right here. | ||
| Then he came to the center of the cage. | ||
| And then we kept it going. | ||
| Look at right there. | ||
| This right here is going to live forever. | ||
| Goddamn that picture. | ||
| Look at that picture. | ||
| After I'm done fighting with what I'm going to do in this game. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| It's for moments like this. | ||
| Fuck the belt. | ||
| It's iconic moments that, you know, like Ali over Sonny Liston. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I got that at home framed. | ||
| Signed by Muhammad Ali. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, shit like that outside this for someone sometime and then it's gonna be framed. | ||
| Honestly, it's so beautiful man And I this is Rock Lee even something like this something some synchronicities that happen So this is from this anime the first fight I watched in this can google this pull it up, Jamie What is it Rock Lee versus Gaara ga ra? | ||
| This is episode 46 of naruto and it was the first fight I ever watched that got me into the series and What is this anime series naruto? | ||
| I've only seen it online. | ||
| It takes too long. | ||
| It's a 720 episode fucking... | ||
| 720 episodes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this bit right here, he takes the weight off. | ||
| He takes the weight off. | ||
| You can watch the highlights. | ||
| And then, literally, there's some heavy-ass weights. | ||
| But he fucks up Gaara. | ||
| But I did the stance Rock Lee normally does. | ||
| I did the stance that he normally does in the weigh-ins. | ||
| And Anderson stood there like Gaara. | ||
| But he probably doesn't even know... | ||
| What that is. | ||
| Well, he just stood there like this. | ||
| And shit like that, it's a Taiju to fight. | ||
| It's just like when life imitates art without even trying. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And I edited it. | ||
| I got some guys, you know, shout out to Cut Craft and Blackburn FX. They edited it for me to make it look the same as this. | ||
| But literally, yeah, shit like this jazzes me up, man. | ||
| I'm geeking out right now. | ||
| Fucking nerd. | ||
| Shout out to Jon Jones. | ||
| Do you call you a nerd? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Oh, my feelings. | ||
| Nerd is not negative, man. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| I'm a fucking nerd. | ||
| I got nunchuck skills, bow hunting skills, all that. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with being a nerd, man. | ||
| I mean, nerds run the world. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Look at Elon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nerds run the fucking world. | ||
| For real. | ||
| I keep telling kids, man, like, don't peak in high school, man. | ||
| Especially the nerds. | ||
| I've told them. | ||
| I've spoken to some schools now, and I just tell them, like, look... | ||
| And New Zealand's got the highest youth suicide rate in the world. | ||
| And it's because a lot of these kids, literally, yeah, they think this is going to be forever. | ||
| Like, whatever they're feeling, the depression, being bullied, being fucked with. | ||
| And it's different now because of all this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you know, depression, whatnot. | ||
| Social media. | ||
| People attacking you. | ||
| And I just tell them, like, look, it's going to be fine. | ||
| This isn't forever. | ||
| At the end of the day, they will peak now. | ||
| Like, when I go back... | ||
| To where I grew up in Rotorua, when I see some of the kids that used to fuck with me, I'm like, I was scared of you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like literally, even when I close my eyes now, because I had a late growth spurt, I can see them, I visualize them, and I still see them as bigger than me. | ||
| But when I go back, they're like short and dumpy and got like five different kids to three different baby mamas and working at the same job for the last 12 years. | ||
| And I'm just like, man, you were in the first 15 rugby team. | ||
| You were the man. | ||
| I thought you was the man. | ||
| But, no, I'm the man. | ||
| But I never feel any kind of way of it. | ||
| I don't feel... | ||
| Only two of them ever apologize, but I don't feel like... | ||
| Because I'm petty. | ||
| You know, I got chips and dips on my shoulder. | ||
| I'm that guy. | ||
| But I don't feel the type of way where I have to, like, shit on them. | ||
| Because I understand kids are cruel. | ||
| Kids are dumb. | ||
| And I see it this day and age. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| Like... | ||
| They don't even know what they're doing while they're doing it. | ||
| They're just fucking angry little chimps with hormones and they don't know what's happening. | ||
| Bad instruction. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I would have told myself, don't think with your penis. | ||
| That's the best advice I give young men because no one tells them that. | ||
| No one. | ||
| Jerk off first, then think about it. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's what I tell them. | ||
| What's this No Nut November bullshit, man? | ||
| Oh, that's nonsense. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's a good way to make this giant mistakes. | ||
| I lost on the first day. | ||
| Three times. | ||
| Fuck all that, man. | ||
| I'm buzzing, man. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| All that tantric shit. | ||
| You gotta let it go. | ||
| They try to keep it inside their body. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| Because then it's age jizz. | ||
| Like, if you haven't jizzed after a while, when you jizz, look at it. | ||
| Yeah, it's like whiskey. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, dry age. | ||
|
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Lock time. | |
| Lock time. | ||
| I'm not going to drink this. | ||
| I know, I feel bad about drinking it now. | ||
| It's alright. | ||
| Yeah, what is that? | ||
| No Nut November. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| That's a good way to stay confused. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're going to make a lot of bad choices that month. | ||
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Yes! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| How many times have guys made bad choices? | ||
| I was trying to explain this to a woman. | ||
| She was saying that men are assholes and they pretend to be someone just so they can fuck a girl. | ||
| And then after they fuck a girl, then you see who they really are. | ||
| I go, listen, they don't even know who the fuck they are. | ||
| I go, when a guy's telling you that they're in love with you, they mean that in that moment. | ||
| And then they come, and then they're like, what? | ||
| What did I do? | ||
| I gotta get out of here. | ||
| It's not that they're being deceptive to you. | ||
| They're being deceived as well. | ||
| I had a whole bit about it that when you have a bonnet, you are in the backseat of a very long bus, and there's another dude driving the bus. | ||
| You're like, where the fuck is he going? | ||
| Reckless. | ||
| Yeah, you're watching your life take place through a windshield 50 feet away from you. | ||
| That's what it's like for men. | ||
| Don't do it, man. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| You jerk off first and you go out with a girl if you really enjoy her company. | ||
|
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Nut-Nut November. | |
| Yeah, Nut-Nut November. | ||
| Wait, who won this thing, by the way, the Sober October? | ||
| We didn't have a championship this year. | ||
| Did it? | ||
| Just for friends. | ||
| Yeah, we just had a thing where you had to do 10 classes and read 500 pages of any books. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We just decided. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| See, that's something you can get behind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Last year was too crazy. | ||
| We're doing cardio seven hours a day. | ||
| I watched that. | ||
| Between Tommy and Machine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, because he was doing some crazy shit to try and lose weight. | ||
| Yeah, they were all trying to lose weight. | ||
| Bert, I told him if he gets down to 205, he could have the sober October belt. | ||
| What's he right now? | ||
| He's about 250. 300? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You can't lose in that weight. | ||
| All you have to do is lose the weight and get the belt. | ||
| I mean, I told him. | ||
| He's having fun. | ||
| I'm going to go. | ||
| He goes, like, we're now about 235. I go, dude, there's guys who fight in the 205-pound division that weigh 235 on Tuesday, and they fight on Saturday, and they weigh in on Friday at 205. I go, you can do it. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| But, you know, discipline. | ||
| Burt's going to Burt. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a discipline issue. | ||
| I think he's coming to New Zealand as well. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Birdie Boy tour? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Machine tour or something. | ||
| I need to get a gig out there. | ||
| Oh, definitely. | ||
| My man, Tony Angeloff, said if you want to come through, he can suss it out. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He's looking forward to it, but he said get in contact with him. | ||
| I was like, I don't know. | ||
| What I should do is do a gig and then take a few days and go hunting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Bro, you'd love it, man. | ||
| Even if you take your kids and just, like, there's a lodge out there. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| It's really expensive, but I'm sure for you, they'll cut you out. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah, easy as. | ||
| It's a nice spot. | ||
| And they'll take you to one of these ranches where, you know, you can get... | ||
| Either, like, my advice, go with Eugene. | ||
| I won't even come. | ||
| Like, go with Eugene. | ||
| He knows, like, some shit. | ||
| And he knows the skills as well. | ||
| Or you can go to these ranches where they have it for you where you can get one of those. | ||
| Like, a big red. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, my first time I shot one dead was a big red. | ||
| And I remember, like... | ||
| We're downwind. | ||
| We tracked it. | ||
| It took ages. | ||
| And you're surprised how the guy who owns the land, old man, but he was fucking kicking our ass, man. | ||
| Like, me and you usually fit. | ||
| But he's just like a mountain goat, just trekking, trekking. | ||
| They get used to hiking. | ||
| It's nothing to do. | ||
| They do it every day. | ||
| And then I get there, and then it takes about maybe 10 minutes, because they're all there in the herd feasting. | ||
| And then we flanked it properly. | ||
| Was it downwind? | ||
| We're upwind away from it. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| You don't want them to smell it. | ||
| You want to be downwind, so the wind is coming to you. | ||
| Yeah, so they can smell us. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then I remember like, hit it, boom, right there. | ||
| You hit it with a rifle? | ||
| Yeah, rifle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know how to use a bow yet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You want to learn? | ||
| Yeah, Cameron said he wanted to hit me up. | ||
| Cameron's going to hook you up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said, wait, in time, in time. | ||
| Anytime. | ||
| I want to fight first. | ||
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I want to get this done. | |
| I'll arrange that. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| But then she dropped right there. | ||
| Darren dead. | ||
| And then I went up there and me and my boy Rod as well, my tattooist, he shows me how to like section it up. | ||
| And then there's a slinky in there. | ||
| Like that's, we call that the baby. | ||
| So you take that out. | ||
| Slinky? | ||
| Yeah, it's like the baby there, the infant that's in there. | ||
| Oh, you've shot a female? | ||
| Yeah, female. | ||
| Yeah, so she dropped there. | ||
| They call it a slinky? | ||
| Yeah, right there. | ||
| I think they call it a slinky because of the way it moves, I'm assuming, so. | ||
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Oh, Jesus. | |
| Yeah, so you dispose of that because the pig is going to eat it. | ||
| It's going to go back to the earth, all that kind of stuff. | ||
| That was the first day, and that was my big red. | ||
| And the next day, we're going. | ||
| We're on the fucking, what do you call it, the ATV. And then out of nowhere, we see two fallows, the smaller ones, and they're up on the ridge. | ||
| And then my coach, Doug, Doug Viney, he's a K-1 champion as well from Vegas, right now? | ||
| And then I shot it. | ||
| And I didn't hit this one this clean. | ||
| So then we have to trek all the way up. | ||
| All this kind of shit. | ||
| What do you call them? | ||
| Stinging needle. | ||
| Fucking annoying. | ||
| And then get up to it and you see it trying to like... | ||
| Oh, the vegan's gonna hate me for this. | ||
| But then I was like, oh shit, okay. | ||
| And then... | ||
| You gotta finish it off. | ||
| Yeah, I have to do the right thing. | ||
| So I get the rifle, right? | ||
| And I'm there. | ||
| And I'm looking at it. | ||
| And then... | ||
| I'm looking through the scope. | ||
| And then Doug's like, this is after about 30 seconds. | ||
| You alright? | ||
| I was like, yeah, hold up. | ||
| Just have to... | ||
| I was like, you're not scared of you. | ||
| I'm like, nah. | ||
| But then I realized, the shit's fucking two feet in front of me. | ||
| I'm using the scope. | ||
| Oh, you couldn't see it? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Doof! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was it. | ||
| She was done. | ||
| You couldn't find the scope. | ||
| Scopes are weird. | ||
| If you get too close, you're all fucked up. | ||
| Well, it was just like a brain fart moment because I was just used to using the scope. | ||
| So I'm like, why the fuck are you using the scope when the thing's right there in front of you? | ||
| So I just hit it. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Point blank. | ||
| Dead. | ||
| I had to do the same thing in the first DR shot. | ||
| Stop suffering. | ||
| But then one thing I really enjoyed was afterwards when you have to section it right there. | ||
| And this is the thing, man. | ||
| If you can't... | ||
| My personal philosophy is if you can't kill what you eat, don't eat meat. | ||
| Don't touch it. | ||
| Because you don't understand where it comes from. | ||
| And eventually one day, kind of like what you have now, you have your own operation. | ||
| I want to have my own operation. | ||
| I want to have... | ||
| My own, like, land, my own property where I can just like bang, bang, bang. | ||
| Freezer, stock it up. | ||
| Pigs. | ||
| Organic meat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's different, man. | ||
| It's a lot different, especially when you have to section it yourself. | ||
| The fallow I sectioned myself, the big one, I gave to my butcher friend to make, like, garlic sausages and salami, all that kind of stuff. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| And then, yeah, Rod taught me how to section the, you know, you use your hands wet, you put it through the skin, and it acts like a knife. | ||
| Oh, it separates the soft tissue? | ||
| It's actually a good technique. | ||
| And yeah, it was fun. | ||
| But it's been about two years now since I've been back in the bush, because, you know... | ||
| The nutrition, though, is so much stronger. | ||
| It's so good for athletes, for someone like yourself. | ||
| My God, that fallow deer and stag, that nutrition is as good as it gets. | ||
| Wild animals. | ||
| I think it was before the Brunson fight, because, long story, but after my debut, I'll go back to this, but like pretty much the Brunson fight before it was when I realized how you eat affects how you think and how you feel your mental health. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Because beforehand, before the fight, before I started cutting weight, I was eating like shit. | ||
| Like literally just because, you know, I cut weight easy, so I'm just eating everything and whatnot. | ||
| And then throughout that camp, I was getting, like, I hurt myself as well. | ||
| Remember, as I mentioned, I had to post-fight press conference, and then I had to take a whole week of training. | ||
| This is like five weeks out. | ||
| And I had to make the call, like, fuck, we're going to pull from this fight so we don't leave it too late so they can find a replacement. | ||
| Or take a whole week off, come back Monday, and then see how we feel. | ||
| And then doing that, I ate right. | ||
| I ate proper. | ||
| I was a little bit depressed and shit like that because of the way I was eating already. | ||
| But that week transitioned everything just because of the way I was eating and the way I looked after my body. | ||
| And then when I got back to camp, boom. | ||
| And I realized through that camp and also reading Charlemagne's book as well, The Shook Ones. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It kind of helped me. | ||
| I listened to it. | ||
| Yeah, I listen to it too. | ||
| I suck at reading. | ||
| Well, that's a good one to listen to too because it's read by him. | ||
| He's such an interesting orator. | ||
| Yeah, and the way he reads it, he's funny. | ||
| Because I listen to brilliant idiots as well. | ||
| Yeah, but he's honest. | ||
| I mean, for a guy like him to talk about being fucked up with anxiety, people are like, what? | ||
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You? | |
| You're the guy who talks about crazy shit. | ||
| People don't understand, man. | ||
| Even my boy Chance, he's with me right now. | ||
| For me, I like to... | ||
| Because I'm on this journey now. | ||
| I like to take those that came up with me. | ||
| I bring them on this journey. | ||
| I went to Dubai. | ||
| I brought my brother with me so I can inspire him. | ||
| I went to Nigeria. | ||
| I brought AB with me because he's Nigerian. | ||
| I told him after this trip, like, be careful because you're going to, you know, holiday blues, you know, like when you come back from a holiday, you feel like, oh, and everyone, all these Instagram hosts post, take me back, you know, with their bikini shots and whatnot. | ||
| I told him, when you get back home, you're going to feel it. | ||
| And I know because I've experienced it as well. | ||
| After my UFC debut, I literally, my after party was three hours of just Hi, nice to meet you. | ||
| Hi. | ||
| At one point, I literally went to go hide somewhere, and some guy found me. | ||
| He's like, bro, you all right? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I'm like, I'm good. | ||
| I'm just chilling. | ||
| I'm just taking five minutes alone. | ||
| He's like, oh, yeah. | ||
| He's like, now you understand, eh? | ||
| And just sat next to me. | ||
| I'm just like, fuck. | ||
| Alone means you not being here, motherfucker. | ||
| And then after I got home, like, you know, got a bonus, got a nice check from the UFC, and then got depressed. | ||
| And I'm just like, what the fuck? | ||
| Yeah, like, I'm home alone with my own thoughts, and I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| Why am I? I didn't get that. | ||
| I didn't understand this. | ||
| So even just because of everything that was happening, I started seeing a therapist straight away just because I felt like no one teaches you how to be famous. | ||
| There's no fucking book about this. | ||
| And I've seen a lot of people, athletes, movies, singers, rappers, rise and fall. | ||
| And I'm not going to be one of those people. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| John Charles. | ||
| But um... | ||
| But then I went to a therapist from February to October just to kind of like learn some tools to help me with this. | ||
| And then so after my first fight, it happened. | ||
| My second fight, it happened. | ||
| My third fight, Brad Tavares fight, main event. | ||
| Fucking all the stimulus. | ||
| It's like coffee. | ||
| You drink coffee and then you get all the stimulus, your hype, and then you come off it and crash. | ||
| I equate it to the same thing. | ||
| And then, those tools that I got from my therapist really helped me just kinda like navigate back. | ||
| So New York was the first fight I got back to my house and I was just like, right, boom. | ||
| I know how to attack this. | ||
| I know what's gonna happen. | ||
| And I was anticipating, 'cause beforehand, I didn't anticipate the hype that was gonna happen, the wave after the fight. | ||
| Like after this fight, I already know what's happened. | ||
| I knew it was gonna be more than everything I've done in the UFC already. | ||
| So I braced for it and I prepared myself and I had the right people and the right tools to help me ease back into my regular routine. | ||
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So I went back home and it was just easy. - What was the feeling of depression? | |
| Because obviously you had this spectacular result. | ||
| You won. | ||
| But what was the feeling? | ||
| What was bothering you? | ||
| If I think about it, my debut, when I got back home, sit down, um... | ||
| It was just like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Trust me, I love fucking the perks. | ||
| Fuck fame. | ||
| I don't like being famous, but I love the perks. | ||
| A lot of perks. | ||
| But when you get back home and I'm with... | ||
| That's why I like hanging out with my dogs and my cat, because they don't say anything. | ||
| I can just be. | ||
| I can just exist with them. | ||
| I don't have to entertain them. | ||
| I don't have to talk. | ||
| Country to popular belief, I'm not always extroverted. | ||
| I'm a cuss baby. | ||
| I'm a crab lion. | ||
| Cancer and Leo. | ||
| A crab lion? | ||
| Cancer and Leo, yeah. | ||
| But like, I can go, you know, both ways, you know, hard, soft. | ||
| Like a Sammy Chubb. | ||
| But you know. | ||
| Sammy Chubb! | ||
| But like, yeah, so I can, when I'm home by myself, I'm just very reserved. | ||
| I like to be in my own thoughts. | ||
| I like to be in my own space. | ||
| You know, like what Jorge had to do in Panama, or wherever he was. | ||
| And the feeling was just not, it's almost, I've heard of imposter syndrome. | ||
| I'm not sure if I'm saying it, if I'm using it right, but I don't know, I don't want to say that's what I had. | ||
| But like, you almost feel like you don't... | ||
| You don't belong. | ||
| Yeah, like I don't belong. | ||
| I don't deserve this. | ||
| I think everybody has that. | ||
| Yeah, so I had to go through that for my first fight, my second fight, my third fight. | ||
| And like I said, it wasn't until the Bronson fight, I just decided, fuck it, own it. | ||
| Because in New York, there's this clip on YouTube of this guy. | ||
| He's walking around Times Square, normal, just chilling. | ||
| No one pays attention to him. | ||
| And then he comes back at night time, and then he's hired a security camera crew. | ||
| He dresses the part, and he's walking around Triumph Square. | ||
| He's just a regular dude, like a YouTube content creator. | ||
| And then everyone's down to like, who's this? | ||
| Who's this guy? | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh, can I take a photo? | ||
| Yeah, cool. | ||
| Take a photo? | ||
| Yeah, cool. | ||
| And then, like, the camera guy goes up to random people and goes like, so how do you know, let's say his name's Brian. | ||
| How do you know Brian? | ||
| How do you... | ||
| And they're like, oh, I saw him in Spider-Man. | ||
| You know, yeah, I think it was pretty good. | ||
| You know, and then the guy would go to another guy, you know, so what do you think about his last album? | ||
| And be like, oh, I mean, I didn't hear the whole thing, but I heard a single on the radio and people just lying through their teeth. | ||
| Lying through their teeth about who the fuck this guy is when they don't even know who he was. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| I experienced that at Deja Vu, fucking crazy, in Times Square, in New York, Madison Square Garden. | ||
| I experienced that in Times Square, like literally shooting for my brand Engage, shooting some shots for them. | ||
| So there's embedded crew around me, my crew around me, and I'm not even trying. | ||
| And at one point, I kind of just, because I'm always noticing everything around me, and I see people like, Some people recognize who I was, and then I saw people like, and I can hear them like, who is he? | ||
| And the same person come, hey man, big fan. | ||
| Yo, can I grab a pic? | ||
| I'm just like, alright, take a pic. | ||
| And the next person like, and you say, hi, can I get a picture? | ||
| And just take a picture. | ||
| And they don't know who the fuck I am. | ||
| They just know somebody likes you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They just, oh, he's famous. | ||
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Boom. | |
| And they just want to get that shine. | ||
| So shit like that kind of humbles you and lets you know it. | ||
| You can get caught up in all that shit, man. | ||
| I talk about hype a lot and I'm like, fuck it. | ||
| Just own it. | ||
| New York was when I decided, like, I'm not going to feel like I don't belong. | ||
| Just own it. | ||
| This is my life now. | ||
| Well, I think what you're doing is you're taking the mentality of a high-level striker and you're applying it to fame because you don't want to get caught in traps. | ||
| You want to see all the pitfalls. | ||
| Like if your chin's up, you drop your hand, if you have a tendency that someone can exploit, you got to go, oh, I'll make sure I mix this up, show them different moves. | ||
| You don't want to get caught in traps, right? | ||
| Yeah, I don't want to get caught, never. | ||
| Yeah, but that is also what happens with fame. | ||
| You get caught in your own traps. | ||
| You set your own traps. | ||
| Yeah, and I'll make my own mistakes. | ||
| I won't crash into a pregnant lady, but I'll make my own mistakes. | ||
| Sorry, I'm taking all the shots. | ||
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Good. | |
| Come get it. | ||
| Well, when you and him started going after it, you and Jon Jones started going after it on Instagram, I was like, oh no. | ||
| Let it be known. | ||
| He started it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He started it. | ||
| Why did he start it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do you think it was? | ||
| I think I'm the freshman. | ||
| I'm the guy that he wishes he was. | ||
| And he's a fan. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| He's a fan. | ||
| He's my biggest fan. | ||
| And I think he sees himself like, man, I could have been that cool if I didn't fuck all this up. | ||
| And he sees me like the new freshman, getting all the shine, getting all the hype. | ||
| But he's still the champ. | ||
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He is. | |
| And he's still undefeated, really. | ||
| No one really cares about his fights. | ||
| He is. | ||
| Oh, fuck that man. | ||
| Hamill shit was bullshit. | ||
| And the man Hamill talking shit at him, talking shit at him. | ||
| And he was just trying. | ||
| He was just trying. | ||
| I mean, Matt Hamill's probably broke. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He hasn't fought in forever. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| He's undefeated. | ||
| He's a guy. | ||
| I think when I first watched him fight, Because I was a fan. | ||
| It was UFC 94, Penn versus GSP2, and he fought Stefan Bonner and just hit him with some stuff. | ||
| Hit him with that spinning elbow. | ||
| Hit him with that double overhook lateral drop. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| And I'm just like, who the fuck's this guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You know, the comparisons were always going to be there, like with him and, oh, this is Silva with wrestling. | ||
| And when I came on the scene, oh, this is Jones with better striking. | ||
| I'm like, and I said it from the get-go. | ||
| I will outgrow those comparisons. | ||
| I was like, they're going to forget about this. | ||
| So now they're not comparing us. | ||
| They're saying, ooh, let's watch them fight. | ||
| I like the fight. | ||
| I said, this is July. | ||
| After the, I think it was the MMA Awards, I was in my hotel room, and allegedly I might have been stoned. | ||
| Allegedly? | ||
| Allegedly, I was fucking stoned. | ||
| And I was looking across, and I could see Raiders Stadium being built. | ||
| And I was like, for whatever reason, just decided, that's where it's going to happen. | ||
| It's such a fucking crazy fight, the way it's going to happen. | ||
| It's just, boom. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Let him go to heavyweight. | ||
| I'll drag him back down. | ||
| I'll drag him back down. | ||
| And I said, like, 2021 is the time because I don't want to disrespect the game. | ||
| I'm not going to hold up the division. | ||
| The division will be held up long enough by Robert fucking being sick and being injured and, you know, Romero not making weight and all this shit. | ||
| I'm like, let me do what Silva did, which was honor the fucking code and actually be a champion and defend the belt. | ||
| So I'm going to do that. | ||
| I've done it once against Robert Whitaker, double interim champ. | ||
| So I'm going to do it again. | ||
| There's killers out there. | ||
| I even saw Kananir on the weekend. | ||
| And he's a fucking beautiful dude, man. | ||
| Such a nice guy. | ||
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He's a very nice guy. | |
| What's up, brother? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| He's a killer. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's the dark horse. | ||
| He's the dark horse. | ||
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He is. | |
| Everyone thinks Romero is. | ||
| Everyone thinks Costa is the one. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| He is the guy I'm like, I'm stalking him. | ||
| I've been watching him, man. | ||
| He's another guy that's made a shift over the last year and a half or so. | ||
| Jared's made a shift where he's just become more and more serious, more and more dangerous, and you watch him. | ||
| When he took out Anderson Silva and he fucked his leg up, you're like, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's on a mission. | ||
| He's on a mission. | ||
| I see him, man. | ||
| I'm not slipping. | ||
| They'll never catch me slipping unless I slip him and I rip him. | ||
| He's got fantastic genetics, too. | ||
| That guy's a tank. | ||
| See, I saw when he was fighting this guy at heavyweight. | ||
| He was heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah, he walked him down with his hands down. | ||
| Heavyweight. | ||
| Now he's 185 and shredded. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Those guys that go all the way from heavyweight to 185, that's fucking phenomenal. | ||
| I think Roy Nelson should have done it, to be honest. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What do you think about that kid Edmund Shabazian? | ||
| I saw his fight. | ||
| I didn't know who he was until I think it was Tim. | ||
| I'm saying his last name right, right? | ||
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I think so. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Tim told me, like, oh, shit. | ||
| Then I rewatched the fight. | ||
| Did I see a life? | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Dude, he's 21 years old. | ||
| And he hit Brad Tavares with a head kick, and that kind of got my attention. | ||
| Like, oh, shit. | ||
| Who's this kid? | ||
| He starched him with that right hand. | ||
| And, you know, that's what I mean. | ||
| Like, he's at 185. He's 21. He's on the come up. | ||
| He just beat. | ||
| I played with Brad for five rounds. | ||
| He starched him in one round, you know? | ||
| I'm not taking that lightly. | ||
| I look at that kid. | ||
| Eventually, when he comes up, I'm sure I'll see him at some point. | ||
| But that's what I mean. | ||
| I need to get back to work. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I'm working. | ||
| I'm working. | ||
| You know the FOMO. I feel cunty as well if I don't train. | ||
| That is the thing of pressure. | ||
| That is the thing of pressure of being a champion. | ||
| I'll never forget when BJ Penn choked out Matt Hughes to win the title in 170. And I was interviewing Matt in the Octagon. | ||
| He was real honest about it. | ||
| He goes, I'm going to be honest with you. | ||
| This is a relief. | ||
| He goes, the pressure, the pressure of all these guys coming after me for so long. | ||
| He goes, I'm glad it's off my shoulders. | ||
| They're not used to it. | ||
| And that's why I said that about Robert. | ||
| I said it on record. | ||
| Like I said, he's not used to this. | ||
| Pressure is an acquired taste. | ||
| It's an acquired taste. | ||
| Not everyone likes it. | ||
| It's like caviar or a goosey or some, you know, like, exactly. | ||
| People don't understand it. | ||
| And for me, before the UFC, there's a hype. | ||
| You know, I jump in the UFC, do my work, hype, hype, hype all the way through. | ||
| And I said, I've been chopping this pressure for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. | ||
| It's easy to me. | ||
| The guy's been away the whole time I've been running through the fucking division. | ||
| The time I've been staking my claim as the fucking champ. | ||
| And he's not used to this pressure. | ||
| And your comeback fight, you want to come up in the biggest show against me? | ||
| I wouldn't even, if I was a coach, 16 months is too long to put a guy against me. | ||
| And I said, he's not going to be used to it. | ||
| And he said, oh, you know, I don't care. | ||
| You know, this Israel fella is not as good as he thinks he is. | ||
| I was like, all right, watch this. | ||
| Well, the thing about the UFC is you don't get tune-up fights. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| They don't exist. | ||
| That's why I said I'm going to come here ready. | ||
| Because I know they're going to put me in the deep end. | ||
| They're going to put me against the guy. | ||
| So that's why me and Eugene had the plan, like, we've got to be ready for everyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To be honest, I'm glad it happened the way it happened. | ||
| I'm glad I didn't rush. | ||
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And people were like, oh, well, you're not the youngest champion in UFC's history. | |
| I'm like, I didn't want to be. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| I'm glad all this shit happened to me not when I was 23 or 24 because I would have fucked up, done way worse shit. | ||
| But I'm happy that I matured. | ||
| I had my metamorphosis when I was 28. And that's when a shift happened for me. | ||
| That's when I became... | ||
| China helped a lot as well, like being away from my comfort zone, being in the mainland and... | ||
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Excuse me. | |
| Hey! | ||
| My man. | ||
| Like, China helped me get ready for all this because being a big black man in the mainland, they don't really see people like us all the time. | ||
| Fighting in my first stadium show in China in front of 40,000 people, being mobbed in China, all that stuff. | ||
| I just use it as reps. | ||
| I was like, okay, this is all preparing me for this. | ||
| This is all preparing me for the big time. | ||
| So when this time comes, I got to be ready and I got to roll out. | ||
| Do you have a very wise way of looking at the future? | ||
| And I think that's what led you to getting therapy when you started feeling a little weird after your first fight. | ||
| I mean, that's very intelligent to seek help, to try to figure out, okay, there's got to be a good way to handle this and I need tools. | ||
| And there's a stigma around it as well. | ||
| Even when I mention it, I think I put on my Instagram story after my win against Robert Whitaker. | ||
| I went to a therapist that Monday. | ||
| The session was supposed to last maybe an hour and a half. | ||
| We finished in 30 minutes because I saw her two weeks beforehand, the week of the fight, and then I saw her after the fight and literally was like, cool, I think we got what we needed. | ||
| I'll see if I need you again. | ||
| But then people were like... | ||
| Oh, so brave, you know, come out and, you know, people with mental illness and, oh my God, hashtag. | ||
| I'm like, I'm not, is it not everyone is mentally ill, but everyone has to look after their mental health. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because if you don't, then you will get sick. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Just like your physical health. | ||
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Yes. | |
| If you don't look after, if I start eating shit, drinking all day, I'll get physically sick. | ||
| So if you don't look after your mental health, then you're going to get mentally ill. | ||
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A hundred percent. | |
| Then they're going to put you in a straight jacket. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Then all that, you know. | ||
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Yes. | |
| You don't want that. | ||
| So for me, I just have to look after myself. | ||
| I don't want to end up like 2007 Britney, you know. | ||
| Oh, shaving your head. | ||
| Yeah, all crazy with them, brother. | ||
| You would look good with your head shaved, though. | ||
| I think she looked all right. | ||
| I would have smashed. | ||
| I would have as well. | ||
| But that's a thing where you're dealing with a young person. | ||
| And when you said about that you're not the youngest ever champ, I don't think it's good. | ||
| I don't think it's good to have that kind of unqualified success. | ||
| Not unqualified, you don't deserve it, but unprecedented. | ||
| At a young age like that. | ||
| Like Mike Tyson. | ||
| He'll talk openly about it, man. | ||
| I mean, now, have you hung out with Mike? | ||
| No, I was supposed to this week, but he's busy. | ||
| So, another time. | ||
| I look forward to it. | ||
| Dude, let's do the hotbox together. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Yes, I'm in. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Dude, he's a nice guy, man. | ||
| And he's so philosophical about his past. | ||
| And the way he's very... | ||
| This is garbage. | ||
| This is garbage. | ||
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I don't even like to think about who I was back then. | |
| He doesn't like to even think about who he was. | ||
| He doesn't like to work out. | ||
| Because he doesn't want to bring that ego back into his life. | ||
| But then you see him with Francis Ngannou when he's ripping. | ||
| I know, yeah. | ||
| He still got it. | ||
| He still got it. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| But apparently he's going to train Francis. | ||
| Yeah, he said. | ||
| Yeah, that would be interesting. | ||
| Apparently Gypsy King is going to do MMA. I'd love to see it, man. | ||
| Once he gets that first leg kick, he's going to be like, what the fuck have I done? | ||
| No, you better get it before you get in the cage. | ||
| I'll say that. | ||
| Did you ever see Shannon the Cannon Briggs talk about when he fought in K-1? | ||
| I listened to that. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He's like, that first leg kick. | ||
| I was like, champ. | ||
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Oh, no, champ. | |
| Didn't he spar? | ||
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I don't think he did. | |
| I don't think he did. | ||
| I'm going to just take this and knock him out. | ||
| He fought Tom Erickson, big cat. | ||
| He was a big motherfucker. | ||
| A natural 290-pound dude. | ||
| Natural. | ||
| Oh, he's gigantic. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Erickson was huge. | ||
| That's a leg. | ||
| We have a guy at our gym, Carlos Alberg. | ||
| Like, beautiful, like, built motherfucker. | ||
| He kicks, because he's Samoan as well. | ||
| I think, yeah, full Samoan. | ||
| He kicks, and man, you don't want to hold pads for him. | ||
| If you have to hold VO2 max kickboxing for him, he can break arms, man. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| He used to be a boxer. | ||
| He only just learned how to kick. | ||
| And now, I've been watching him. | ||
| He's turning his hip over. | ||
| He's also a former King of the Ring champ as well. | ||
| Current King of the Ring champ. | ||
| But, like, literally, he, yeah. | ||
| Bones. | ||
| They got different bones. | ||
| Bone and muscle. | ||
| You don't want that. | ||
| I was at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu way back in the day in the 90s and I watched Pedro Hizzo kick the bag. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he just... | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Pedro Hizzo was kicking the bag. | ||
| Pedro Hizzo's legs are both of my legs glued together. | ||
| They're so big. | ||
| I've seen them, man. | ||
| Even now. | ||
| Even now. | ||
| Still thick. | ||
| But he was, in my opinion, the best heavyweight in the history of MMA, the best heavyweight leg kicker. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He would throw leg kicks and everybody would collapse. | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
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Hard Dog was a master. | |
| What I used to like was his hip. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He used to swing that hip. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's a different style, Dutch style. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| But I still, I do mine. | ||
| There's many types of leg kicks. | ||
| People don't know. | ||
| Like, there's many types of jabs. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| There's levels to this. | ||
| And he had this one where he'd, like, swivel his hip. | ||
| Like, he'd almost just, like a Barbie, like, take his leg and just, bop. | ||
| Almost like a low Brazilian kick. | ||
| Almost like a Feitosa kick, but low. | ||
| Feitosa did, he did the question mark kick better than anybody. | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| Remind me. | ||
| Glaube Feitosa fought in K1. Okay. | ||
| Go to Robin Black's Twitter page from today. | ||
| He posted a Glaube Feitosa KO. Glaube, I mean, everybody knew the question mark kick, right? | ||
| You go up the middle and then you go around this way to a head kick. | ||
| But Glaube will go, Up and down in this crazy way. | ||
| His hips swiveled. | ||
| He had the dexterity of that down in just this crazy way. | ||
| Because you would have your hands up in a good position. | ||
| He would come over your hands and drop down on your face at an angle. | ||
| I've done that before, inspiring, just like, this is years ago. | ||
| I did it, I won't say to who. | ||
| Did you see it on Robin's page? | ||
| He retweeted it earlier today. | ||
| He retweeted his own shit, which is hilarious. | ||
| Whenever you do that. | ||
| It's like when people are at you in your own comment, I'm like, it's my page, why you gotta at me? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything, but just fucking pet peeves. | ||
| I'm 100% giving up on reading my apps. | ||
| I don't read a goddamn thing that comes my way. | ||
| You're just spitting into the wind. | ||
| Once in a while, fight week is when I have time. | ||
| The best one was New York. | ||
| New York, I get there early. | ||
| And this guy was already bugging me. | ||
| Because you see in the notifications when you scroll up, I'm like, this guy again. | ||
| So I was like, alright, I got time today. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I went at him, man. | ||
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Who was that? | |
| Some fan? | ||
| Some fan. | ||
| And he was just like, hey, Israel, I went on his DMs and I started going back and forth with him. | ||
| And I screen recorded the interaction. | ||
| And then eventually after the fight, I think maybe about two weeks after I roasted and posted him, he changed his Instagram name. | ||
| Shit got reported. | ||
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I was like, oh, wrong person to fuck with. | |
| Like Dana, sometimes if I have, if I got time today, I got time to like Jon Jones, same thing. | ||
| One day I just went at him because he was just going back and forth on Twitter. | ||
| No, back, he was going forth. | ||
| And I just kind of ignored him. | ||
| I was living my life. | ||
| And like sometime two weeks ago, I was just like, you know what? | ||
| Hold my beer. | ||
| Well, he's not coming. | ||
| He's not coming after you unless you're a threat. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| See, watch the video. | ||
| Play the video. | ||
| There it goes. | ||
| Now watch this left kick, man. | ||
| Dude! | ||
| I've seen that before in the K1 Ultimate Knockout Highlights. | ||
| But watch the motion of the kick when Robin breaks it down. | ||
| Sweat this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Watch the final part. | ||
| Watch this shit. | ||
| Right here. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Who the fuck does that? | ||
| Glaube is the master of the question mark kick, to the point where they call it the Brazilian kick, man. | ||
| I mean, but he almost did it different than a question mark kick, because essentially he was making it look like he was throwing a body roundhouse kick. | ||
| He wasn't, like, the real question mark kick is like a front kick that you turn into a round kick, but Glaube was throwing it like he was throwing it to the body, and then last second, look at this shit. | ||
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Kuk. | |
| Right here. | ||
| It's my favorite part. | ||
| I mean, this is like a whip. | ||
| What's his background? | ||
| Kyokushin? | ||
| Yeah, Kyokushin. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| He went over the guard. | ||
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Dude! | |
| He went over the guard and just like... | ||
| Better than anybody at it. | ||
| Better than anybody. | ||
| And then, wah! | ||
| That fucking... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| At the end. | ||
| Finish off. | ||
| Wah! | ||
| I mean, he had a weird way of moving his hips that you go, man, I don't know how many people can fucking move their hips like that. | ||
| Shakira. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta... | ||
| The hips don't lie. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Yeah, that was a... | ||
| I mean, sometimes someone just develops a way of doing a kick that's different than everybody else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even now, Eugene likes to make fun of me. | ||
| He's like, you're getting old. | ||
| I'm like, why? | ||
| He's like, it takes me about a week for my hips to warm up before the kicks start to happen the way it normally should. | ||
| I'm like, fuck it. | ||
| So he goes back and forth with me on that. | ||
| But I've been doing yoga for a while. | ||
| I kind of slacked off a little bit this camp, but... | ||
| Off-season, I'm gonna get back into it just because I'm 30 now. | ||
| I don't really feel old, though. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Like, you're supposed to magically suddenly sneeze and blow your back out and all this shit. | ||
| That's when you're 40. Yeah, okay, exactly. | ||
| When you're 40, shit starts breaking. | ||
| The only thing I've noticed is just the hangovers take a whole day now. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| That's the only thing. | ||
| You gotta get some liquid IV. Yeah. | ||
| Oh, Vegas. | ||
| But I had to ask first because, you know, you saw that you can't handle plastic. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Liquid IV is a drink. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It's formulated. | ||
| It's called liquid IV. They just pour it into water. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It rehydrates you much quicker. | ||
| Is it like a brand? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a sponsor of the podcast. | ||
| I'll get you some of it. | ||
| Hey, hook us up. | ||
| Hook us up. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| It hydrates you two to three times faster than water alone. | ||
| It's like drinking three bottles of water with minerals and stuff. | ||
| Please and thank you. | ||
| Yeah, it's very smart, scientific concoction. | ||
| I will take that. | ||
| Yeah, that'll help you. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Yeah, man, there's a lot of little tricks you can do to get rid of the hangovers. | ||
| Glutathione's another one. | ||
| Glutathione is... | ||
| I've heard the name before. | ||
| Yeah, it's... | ||
| I don't know what the exact term, what kind of molecule it is specifically. | ||
| Glutamine? | ||
| What is glutathione exactly? | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| But what it does is it helps your body break down alcohol at an accelerated rate. | ||
| And a lot of times people take it while they're drinking. | ||
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Or if you're hungover, just drink some more. | |
| Because a hangover is just alcohol. | ||
| But I don't drink that crazy though. | ||
| I'm not like an alcoholic or nothing. | ||
| Well, Dr. Carl Hart explained that to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said that what a hangover actually is, is your body's withdrawals from alcohol. | ||
| That's why people say, you know, what's that expression? | ||
| Something, the dog that bit you? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Bite the hair of the dog? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Bite the hair of the dog that bit you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, so when you're hungover, you have an extra, like a Bloody Mary. | ||
| That's what Bloody Marys are for. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Bite the hair of the dog that bit you. | ||
| The hair of the dog. | ||
| Not bite the hair of the dog that bit you. | ||
| But the hair of the dog that bit you. | ||
| So you don't want the whole dog. | ||
| You just want a little bit. | ||
| It's just to get you over that hung hangover. | ||
| And that's what Bloody Marys. | ||
| Bloody Marys are like just a little drink in the morning. | ||
| Just a little bit with tomato juice and celery. | ||
| To pretend that you're fucking healthy and celery. | ||
| Mimosas at brunch. | ||
| I don't know how dudes live in Vegas and train in Vegas. | ||
| Yeah, fuck all that. | ||
| Last time I was there, holy shit. | ||
| So I was there in July for eight days. | ||
| The first three days, I did my testing at the PI. I was training, you know, no drinking, nothing like that. | ||
| And then the MMA awards happened. | ||
| The next five nights, fuck me. | ||
| I just wanted to leave, man. | ||
| But you can't help it because you're in there and then it's just like, oh yeah, cool. | ||
| You want to come to this club? | ||
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Yeah, we got VIP. Oh, we'll hook you up. | |
| That's where Jorge said he saw me at the club shirtless. | ||
| It wasn't inside. | ||
| It was outside. | ||
| There was no women around me. | ||
| It was literally just people in the next booth. | ||
| But it just looks that way. | ||
| And he kind of added a little flavor, you know, of what I said. | ||
| But I didn't say... | ||
| All I said was, like, I know, you know, Yoel's your boy, but I want to see him because he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| And I said, I want to fight all the bad motherfuckers of this era. | ||
| And he's one of them. | ||
| And he respected that, so respect to that. | ||
| But I didn't say nothing about, you know, legacy and, like, if I don't fight him... | ||
| I want to fight him. | ||
| I've called him out. | ||
| And when he put that other video, like, you know, why are you hiding? | ||
| I'm like, I'm not hiding. | ||
| I want to fucking fight you. | ||
| I want that fight. | ||
| I love you, man. | ||
| I feel like that's the fight right now. | ||
| I mean, I don't see anybody other... | ||
| I mean, a rematch with Whitaker is hard to sell right now. | ||
| You starched him. | ||
| He's got to come back and do something. | ||
| That is the fight. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think Yolo Romero is the fight. | ||
| Because Paulo Acosta's got an injury. | ||
| He just had his bicep repaired. | ||
| Allegedly? | ||
| You don't believe it? | ||
| You faked a surgery? | ||
| Sips tea. | ||
| No, but I just don't believe anything after Icarus, man. | ||
| Like, after seeing everyone. | ||
| I don't believe no one. | ||
| That documentary fucked my head up. | ||
| I saw that painting, man, out there with the Diaz brothers. | ||
| Everybody on steroids. | ||
| Everybody on steroids. | ||
| Shout out to Dos Brock. | ||
| Yeah, Dos. | ||
| I met him. | ||
| Yeah, he's a cool dude. | ||
| He's a fucking crazy dude, man. | ||
| I like how he takes all his pictures with a bandana over his face. | ||
| I did one as well. | ||
| I put the bandana on there. | ||
| I took it too. | ||
| I was like, I see you. | ||
| But yeah, I don't know. | ||
| He can heal up or whatever, but give me Yoromero. | ||
| I said it. | ||
| I've said it. | ||
| I'll say it again. | ||
| I'm not ducking no one. | ||
| I ain't fucking ducking nobody. | ||
| Give me the fight. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand the idea that he's lost all those fights so you can't have a fight for the title. | ||
| You talk to Uncle Dana. | ||
| Please, Dana, listen to me. | ||
| You can make that fight. | ||
| Everybody wants to see it. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100% of the hardcore fans want to see it. | ||
| All you have to do is show a Yoel Romero heart. | ||
| I will do a countdown for that. | ||
| I don't do those anymore. | ||
| I will do it for that fight. | ||
| I look forward to the challenge, man. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
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I want that fight. | |
| I want to see it. | ||
| I want to see it. | ||
| I got to find his neck. | ||
| He's a unique challenge. | ||
| I want to find his neck. | ||
| It's a solid bumble. | ||
| It goes right into his brain. | ||
| Misha. | ||
| Misha Surkinov. | ||
| I'm telling you, my Peruvian necktie is tight now. | ||
| I thought I knew what it was. | ||
| I thought I had it before because I used to get it like maybe 30% of the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My man showed me some shit and he also showed me because you see the Gaston fight. | ||
| Do you know where that came from? | ||
| Peruvian necktie? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's Tony D'Souza. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, D'Souza invented it. | ||
| I think he invented it because if he didn't invent it, he fucking nailed it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so it became the Peruvian necktie. | ||
| I want to rename it. | ||
| D'Souza was a beast. | ||
| D'Souza is one of the lost beasts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, I used to love watching that guy fight. | ||
| Fucking prove your motherfucker with a big, thick beard fought like a savage. | ||
| Tough as shit. | ||
| Tough as shit. | ||
| Tony D'Souza. | ||
| People forgot him. | ||
| There's so many great fighters from the old days that get slept on. | ||
| But Tony D'Souza is the one. | ||
| Sort of like, you know, like the Von Flucho, because Jason Von Flucho. | ||
| I think you got to rename that the OSP. I want to rename the Peruvian once I do what OSP has been doing. | ||
| The thing is, I think he invented the Peruvian necktie. | ||
| I think D'Souza invented it. | ||
| It's credited as the modified guillotine choke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he invented it. | ||
| What it is, is for people who don't know what we're talking about, it's kind of like a sideways guillotine where you throw the leg over the head and the back. | ||
| It's nasty. | ||
| It looks cool, man. | ||
| Oh, it hurts like hell, too. | ||
| I was doing it like this with this grip, and then homeboy, Misha showed me how to get deep, and then hold it from here. | ||
| Get to the side. | ||
| Marcello Garcia style. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just throw the legs over, and it's so fucking nasty, man. | ||
| Yeah, there's Tony. | ||
| Tony D'Souza. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Old school. | ||
| Yeah, he figured it out, man. | ||
| He figured it out. | ||
| And it's all about that leg over the head, man. | ||
| Once you get that leg over the head to accentuate the pressure. | ||
| I can leg press some heavy weight. | ||
| So when you put that on the back of someone's head and you go... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Straight away, it's a nice one. | ||
| Bunch of people have got it. | ||
| CB Dalloway's got it before. | ||
| A few other guys have got it. | ||
| Yeah, I saw CB Dalloway's one. | ||
| Doberman, I saw that one. | ||
| But there's, like, in the Gaslum fight, in the last, like, 20 seconds, I had a front headlock on him. | ||
| And I thought about going for a dash choke, but I knew Eugene might yell at me, so I didn't. | ||
| Why would he yell at you? | ||
| He didn't want you to grapple with him at all? | ||
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Slippery? | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Just, because I had the guillotine, I had the triangle, but it was slippery, and also I was already winning the striking. | ||
| I don't want to end up like Frank Mir when he fought Noguera. | ||
| Well, that was an interesting thing. | ||
| When you did go to your back, you were throwing up triangles. | ||
| I was like, this motherfucker's dangerous off his back. | ||
| This isn't a defensive guard. | ||
| But I was like, he's attacking. | ||
| But I kind of knew. | ||
| I mean, even though I hadn't seen it, I know who you are. | ||
| You're not going to be a guy who doesn't have anything off your back. | ||
| You're not going to have a hole like that. | ||
| You're going to figure that out. | ||
| And I'm still learning, man. | ||
| I'm still a white belt. | ||
| It took me five years to get my blue belt. | ||
| Andre Gaval gave me my blue belt, surprisingly. | ||
| But I was like... | ||
| I'm still a white guy. | ||
| Do you train with Galvao in San Diego? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I haven't trained there, but he's come over and we are, what do you call it, affiliated with the school. | ||
| Oh, I see. | ||
| And they have a program. | ||
| They don't just give it out, but they have to fed them and they have a really good relationship with my coach, Adam Johnson, my jiu-jitsu coach and analyst and also Eugene Behrman. | ||
| So when he saw me rolling and stuff like that, I think he was like, oh, Oh, that's great. | ||
| So yeah, I was just surprised to even get my blue belt that day, but I didn't mind. | ||
| I was like, fuck it. | ||
| That's a nice person to get it from too, man. | ||
| Get it from Galvao. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, and I was even looking forward to training with Gordon Ryan when I was in New York, but fucking this thing won't let me. | ||
| Yeah, protect your knees, man. | ||
| You don't want a fucked up knee. | ||
| No, I don't want to roll with him. | ||
| Fuck all that. | ||
| Nah, I'm not rolling with him. | ||
| Just like swap skills. | ||
| Nah, fuck rolling with him. | ||
| Maybe later on. | ||
| But like, I just wanted to swap skills because they know some shit about grappling that we don't know. | ||
| Well, Donaher is a legitimate genius. | ||
| That's a guy. | ||
| Kiwi guy as well. | ||
| And he knows some shit. | ||
| You talk to that guy, you look in his eyes, there's a darkness in that guy's soul. | ||
| I saw him on the podcast when he's talking to you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's intense, man. | ||
| He's like Professor X. I was just going to say that. | ||
| He's like the real live Professor X. Dude, he's spooky smart, too. | ||
| Spooky smart. | ||
| So I was going to swap some skills with Gordon Ryan and, what's his name? | ||
| Gary Tonin. | ||
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Gary Tonin. | |
| Whoever else. | ||
| Eddie Cummins branched off. | ||
| He's got his own gym now, but he's another master. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, those guys are that whole... | ||
| It's really interesting what happened out of that whole gym. | ||
| That gym really... | ||
| That was the epicenter of the revolution. | ||
| They sort of started this whole leg lock revolution in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| What did Dean Lister say? | ||
| Why would you ignore 50% of the human body? | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And then Donaher was like... | ||
| That's the switch. | ||
| Why would you? | ||
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That's the scene! | |
| That was it. | ||
| That was the scene. | ||
| I mean, it really was because Dean Lister was tapping people with leg locks and heel hooks back when you would get booed. | ||
| I remember I saw Dean Lister compete in Abu Dhabi in Sao Paulo, Brazil in 2003. But you were there. | ||
| Yeah, because Eddie Bravo fought Hoyler Gracie. | ||
| That's right, you said, yeah. | ||
| So I flew over with Eddie. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Dude, I've never been so happy in all my life. | ||
| Even the last fight he had with, who was it? | ||
| Which Gracie was it? | ||
| The last fight. | ||
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Eddie? | |
| He fought Hoyler again. | ||
| Hoyler, yeah, that's right. | ||
| He had him in that split thing. | ||
| Hoyler did wooden tap. | ||
| He had him in what's called the, what is it called? | ||
| I don't know all the 10 planet names so much, but yeah, he had his legs like this and I could see his groin about to tear. | ||
| Well, his knee was fucking, I forget, it's some nuclear word. | ||
| I forget the word he used for it. | ||
| Vaporizer. | ||
| Vaporizer. | ||
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That is it. | |
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I knew it was in there somewhere. | ||
| Dude, he was ripping Hoyler's knee apart. | ||
| And as a person who's had three knee surgeries, I was watching it. | ||
| I was like, please just tap. | ||
| Just tap. | ||
| It ain't worth it. | ||
| He wasn't going to tap. | ||
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It's the pride, man. | |
| It's the pride. | ||
| But he wouldn't tap with anything. | ||
| Remember when he fought Sakuraba? | ||
| Sakuraba had a deep Kimura way behind his back. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| All up like this where it looked like his joints were ripping apart. | ||
| He wouldn't tap and they stopped the fight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They stopped the fight. | ||
| They have to. | ||
| Well, they didn't have to. | ||
| Let him get his shit ripped up, you know? | ||
| Yeah, he'd be like some Shinya Aoki shit. | ||
| Remember when Mir did that to Noguera? | ||
| Oh, bro. | ||
| Snapped his arm. | ||
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Same shit. | |
| You can see it. | ||
| It's just like, boom, pop. | ||
| There's that moment where it's just like, fuck it, it's gonna go. | ||
| And Frank's looking at his arm like this. | ||
| I mean, Minotaur's looking at his arm like this, like, oh! | ||
| Is it... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, his arm's never the same again. | ||
|
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Nah. | |
| I mean, that's a... | ||
| When you get that upper arm snapped, like, god damn, that's a bad bone. | ||
| That guy's a guy. | ||
| He fights like a zombie. | ||
| He's the original zombie. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Here it is. | ||
| He don't go. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Eddie is tearing his fucking knee apart. | ||
| I mean, if you don't... | ||
| If you've never experienced what this feels like... | ||
| I've only experienced it a couple times. | ||
| It's a terrible feeling, man. | ||
| It's a terrible feeling. | ||
| It's hard to explain what's going on here, but... | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Yeah, his knee... | ||
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You can see that. | |
| Yeah, it's sideways and being mangled. | ||
| Oh, fuck all that. | ||
| And Eddie said it kept popping, and Hoyler's just dealing with the pain, like right there. | ||
| That's deep. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| His knee is tearing apart. | ||
| That's mental fortitude, man. | ||
| Oh, man, that whole family. | ||
| That whole family is savages. | ||
| I mean, there's never been a family that's revolutionized martial arts the way the Gracie family did, and Hoyler was the most successful of all the Gracies. | ||
| When it came to competition, he was a multiple-time world champion. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| Look at his fucking knee, man. | ||
| Eddie Bravo's mangling his knee, and he won't tap. | ||
| And Eddie's telling him, just tap, man. | ||
| He's like, it's fine. | ||
| It's normal. | ||
| He's like, dude, your leg just popped five times. | ||
| He's like, it's normal. | ||
| Like, he's tapping it again. | ||
| Eddie's got him wrapped up. | ||
| That's nasty. | ||
| And this is some shit Eddie invented. | ||
| This is what's crazy about all of this. | ||
| I mean, Hoyler, to his credit, just would rather get his knee torn apart than lose. | ||
| When's the last time The Indian came out? | ||
| Eddie? | ||
| Probably a couple hours ago. | ||
| Man, you gotta have him back on, man. | ||
| He's funny. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| Especially on the flight companions. | ||
| We were just talking on the phone the other day, and I was driving to this area where the cell phone was about to cut out, and he was telling me some crazy conspiracy. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And I was like, bro, bro, bro, I love you. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| My phone's about to cut out. | ||
|
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I love you too, man. | |
| I'm sorry I'd chewed your ear off. | ||
| I'd love to be in one day. | ||
| He's so crazy. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He loves conspiracies. | ||
| He loves conspiracies. | ||
| Like... | ||
| It's like his family, number one, jujitsu, number two, conspiracies. | ||
| What's the new one? | ||
| Maybe his friends, number three, and then conspiracies. | ||
| Oh, everybody. | ||
| Look into it. | ||
| Everybody's into that one. | ||
| See, I don't know too deep about it, but even... | ||
| Fucking a chimp could tell you. | ||
| My dog, Marshall, could tell you. | ||
|
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He knows the shit. | |
| Fucking, look, man, that guy, Bill Clinton flew with that guy 26 confirmed times. | ||
| 26. It might be 28, but 26 confirmed times. | ||
| I read that, I'm like, bro, I didn't even flew with my mother 26 times. | ||
| How does this guy fly with... | ||
| Bill Clinton flew with a pedophile 26 times over the period of just a couple of years. | ||
| Fuck Island, they called it. | ||
| Fuck Island. | ||
| That's what everybody else called it. | ||
| How to defend against suicide. | ||
| I'm loving these bees, man. | ||
| Yeah, they snapped that guy's fucking neck, man. | ||
| Is that Eddie? | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Another one. | ||
| They snapped that guy's fucking neck. | ||
| They said his neck was fractured. | ||
| How can you do that from hanging yourself? | ||
| You can't. | ||
| How do you hang yourself in jail? | ||
| It'll come out eventually. | ||
| Dude, even Michael Shermer, who's like a professional skeptic, he's the editor of Skeptics Magazine, he said it was probably a conspiracy. | ||
| Even him! | ||
| He said, what, the cameras are down? | ||
| The cameras weren't working. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Just happened to shut off at that time. | ||
| Come on, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| They killed that dude. | ||
| They killed that dude and no one's talking about it. | ||
| Now everybody's like... | ||
| I mean, there's that leak where that ABC reporter was saying that ABC squashed a story three years ago. | ||
| I saw Hillary was on Trevor Noah and he kind of asked her. | ||
| Yeah, he joked around with her. | ||
| Yeah, but she laughed about it. | ||
| I thought it was one of those, what do you call the thing, the deep fakes? | ||
| But it was real. | ||
| Well, here's what's crazy. | ||
| She knew that guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She knew that guy. | ||
| And that guy was most likely murdered in jail. | ||
| And she was laughing about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, because Trevor Noah said, how did you kill Jeffrey Epstein? | ||
| Yeah, but they were cool. | ||
|
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And she's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. | |
| But that's like, imagine if you knew someone. | ||
| Like, and your husband was flying around with that guy. | ||
| And this is like someone you know. | ||
| You've got to know pretty well. | ||
| Like, you've hung out with him at cocktail parties. | ||
| Like... | ||
| Maybe you've known him for years, and then that guy gets murdered. | ||
| And then somebody asks you, how'd you murder him? | ||
| And you start laughing. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| You gotta be a cruel, heartless person to think that's funny. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It's just a joke about it. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| She did the same thing with Gaddafi stuff. | ||
| That was different, though, because that wasn't a joke. | ||
| She said, we came, we saw, he died. | ||
| Ha ha ha. | ||
| But that was someone that wasn't her friend, supposedly. | ||
| Right, that was someone who wasn't her friend. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This was someone who she knew, and, you know, Trevor, and listen, the way The Daily Show works, for sure, they told her. | ||
| They told her beforehand. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, they couldn't have sprung that on her. | ||
| No way. | ||
| No way. | ||
| You don't spring shit on Hillary goddamn Clinton when she's on a Comedy Central show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Play that. | |
| So she would be ready for that. | ||
| And then like... | ||
| And she's got to know you respect her. | ||
| She's got to... | ||
| I mean, there's no way she's coming on that show unless she knows everything's going to be okay. | ||
| So when they brought that up and she started laughing, she knew that shit was coming. | ||
| I guarantee you. | ||
| Guarantee you. | ||
| Guarantee you. | ||
| They're not free balling on that show. | ||
| It'll come out later on. | ||
| I'm sure it'll come out later on. | ||
| Some people know too much, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Way too much. | ||
| It probably will be one of those decades later things we find out, you know, that some guy on his deathbed says he killed Epstein because Clinton paid him off. | ||
| You know, who the fuck knows? | ||
| Who knows what that guy knew? | ||
| I mean, that guy was a professional blackmailer. | ||
| I don't know who he worked for. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Probably there's more. | ||
| Like, fuck it, I might just be the tip of the iceberg. | ||
| Fuck yes! | ||
| There's probably a whole shitload of things we have no idea about. | ||
| Fuck yes! | ||
| Fuck yes! | ||
| I'm surprised all that kind of stuff gets into politics as well with, like, sex trafficking and whatnot. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Really? | ||
| Well, I think... | ||
| We're billionaires. | ||
| You can get a guy like that. | ||
| Like, here's a lot of these guys. | ||
| This is my thoughts. | ||
| A lot of these guys are freaks, and then they're in the public eye, so they have to maintain a proper position. | ||
| We know Bill Clinton, during the 90s in particular, there's no internet. | ||
| He was fucking like a... | ||
| He was just fucking up a storm. | ||
| He was a wild man. | ||
| And, you know, there's a few alleged rapes. | ||
| Alleged? | ||
| Yes, alleged sexual assaults. | ||
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Alleged, allegedly. | |
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I wasn't there, but there's women that are accusing him of sexual assault and rape. | ||
| So you've got the Monica Lewinsky things. | ||
| You know he's a freak. | ||
| He's getting his dick sucked by 20-year-olds in the White House. | ||
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I did not have sexual relations with that woman. | |
| And then when they bust him, he's like, well, as to what I thought sexual relations were. | ||
| But you've got to think. | ||
| There's a lot of those dudes out there. | ||
| That's why they get into politics in the first place. | ||
| They're all in their 60s, so they got into politics in the fucking 80s and the 70s. | ||
| They got into politics because they wanted to fuck. | ||
| They wanted to be the king. | ||
| They wanted to be the guy with all the power. | ||
| They wanted to be the alpha. | ||
| And so then, all of a sudden, the rules change because of the internet. | ||
| So then they got to figure out, oh, Jesus, I can't do anything anymore. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| What do I do? | ||
| So what they do is they find a guy who's gonna take him to an island where there's no rules. | ||
| Hey, man, Jeffrey Epstein's got this place. | ||
| He brings in these girls from Czechoslovakia, and they suck your dick until your head explodes. | ||
| Let's do it! | ||
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Woo! | |
| Next thing you know, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. | ||
| You're on the fucking boat headed to the island with Clinton. | ||
| Fuck, what a life. | ||
| You had an island! | ||
| Where'd he get that island? | ||
| No one knows. | ||
| I don't even know how you buy an island. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| The fucking intelligence agencies give you money. | ||
| They give you an island. | ||
| They set it up. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Someone from some agency, whether it's Mossad or CIA or whoever the fuck it was, they had a concerted effort, most likely, to try to bring these creepers, bring them over there, tempt them with pussies. | ||
| And he know how to do it. | ||
| I think they probably do it as well as, like, having shit over them. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| So that way they can have, like... | ||
| They can get them to do things for them. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Decisions. | ||
| Bills that need to be passed. | ||
| You know, fucking drones that need to be launched. | ||
| Like, example, the marijuana reform. | ||
| I'm like, look, we all agree now, like, you know, everyone smokes. | ||
| Everybody, you know, like, not everyone, but like, everyone's doing it. | ||
| So, they're gonna legalize it. | ||
| Can't they just have like a group chat or something and be like, okay, all opposed, say nay. | ||
| All for it, say aye. | ||
| Why does it have to take so long? | ||
| Well, the concern is pharmaceutical companies have a massive concern about loss of income. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Even in New Zealand right now, it's taking so long to get pushed. | ||
| And I think they're at the tail end of it. | ||
| They can't hold back anymore. | ||
| It's going to fucking burst. | ||
| It's going to burst. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's going to burst. | ||
| They can't hold it. | ||
| Those people have to set up their own businesses and whatnot. | ||
| So that way, when it comes to boom, they're first in line to cash in. | ||
| The most egregious example of that is what happened in his home state of Ohio. | ||
| Tell them a story about what they did. | ||
| Well, I've actually been, since we brought that up the last couple of days, I've been reading that that was like some misinformation, and that's not exactly how it even is. | ||
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What? | |
| So I don't know. | ||
| I'm not there, so I don't know exactly. | ||
| But the bill was making it so that only a few companies... | ||
| I think that's the one that didn't pass a few years ago, and the one that passed, it's got different stuff. | ||
| Oh, no, no, I know that. | ||
| But the one that was proposed, the most egregious example, they proposed a bill to legalize marijuana, but no one could grow it, only a couple companies could grow it, and they would make all the profits. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So no one can grow it? | ||
| Well, it's just a horseshit, and by the way, this is forever. | ||
| They were like, for life, bitch! | ||
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Really? | |
| For life! | ||
| Yeah, their idea was that they were going to monopolize the state of Ohio. | ||
| That's all bullshit, man. | ||
| Everybody was like, fuck you. | ||
| We'll wait. | ||
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We'll wait, bitch. | |
| I like when I went to Muscle Farm. | ||
| I was in Denver. | ||
| What do you call it? | ||
| Muscle Farm. | ||
| What's the name of the team? | ||
| Team Elevate? | ||
| Elevate, yeah. | ||
| Right next door is this big hangar. | ||
| I'm not a scientist, but the smell in the air. | ||
| What are they, growing skunks? | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Literally, I was just like, they're growing weed. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Like, literally, you could smell it. | ||
| I was like, yeah. | ||
| And it's now minty, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love the smell. | ||
| Oh, it's a beautiful smell. | ||
|
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Warren Buffett's company. | |
| And the weird thing as well is like, as a kid, because of what I was told and what I was perpetrated, whenever I'd smell either beer, because I didn't used to drink until I was like, until I found bourbon. | ||
| I don't like beer. | ||
| Long story. | ||
| But then, I didn't drink or did anything. | ||
| I was a goodie boy. | ||
| You know, still, I'm a good boy. | ||
| But... | ||
| Once I smelled weed or beer or anything, it reminded me of homeless people. | ||
| Like, ugh, you're dirty. | ||
| Because of what I was taught as a kid. | ||
| But then as an adult now, I'm like, where the party at? | ||
| Yeah, want to relax. | ||
| Think different. | ||
| Chill, bro. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, weed is a great one, man, because it makes people more comfortable with each other. | ||
| It makes people friendlier. | ||
| I only smoke around certain people. | ||
| That's just for me personally, because if I don't feel comfortable, like if you can get into a situation, I'm just like, why is that guy on his phone? | ||
| Because sometimes you see people like, this is the worst one, man. | ||
| Now these days, people are just like this, and then you see their phone just like... | ||
| Right, and you know they're filming you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like, why are you texting this way? | ||
| You ain't got a text this way. | ||
| That's so common. | ||
| That's weird, man. | ||
| I'm sure you get it all. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I would love to do deep bong hits around Donald Trump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm like, bro, you don't have to smoke. | ||
| Just hang out in the room with me. | ||
| Let's see what's up. | ||
| You could probably take a beat. | ||
| Now, about these kids in cages. | ||
| But even just talking to him high as fuck would be weird. | ||
| Like, bro, why don't you just quit? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Just get out. | ||
| He's one of those guys. | ||
| He likes the game. | ||
| He likes the game. | ||
| I'm sure he does. | ||
| He's my favorite comedian of this year, man. | ||
| I follow him on Twitter just because of the shit he says. | ||
| It's fucking hilarious, man. | ||
| You can't not respect it. | ||
| He says some funny shit, for sure. | ||
| One of the funniest things he ever said was when he was thinking about buying Greenland. | ||
| He put a picture of Trump Tower. | ||
| He goes, I promise not to do this. | ||
| Trump Tower in the middle of Greenland. | ||
| I was laughing my ass off. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| Donald Trump has reportedly discussed making The Apprentice White House. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Ratings. | ||
| Can you imagine if he turns The White House into a set for a reality show? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Who's that dude? | ||
| Producer Mark Burnett. | ||
| Oh, that's Mark Burnett. | ||
| He's buddies with him. | ||
| See, I knew him from The Apprentices. | ||
| I watched the first two seasons when I was a kid. | ||
| You're fired. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| That's his move, man. | ||
| I've heard some other things after that. | ||
| You said you were going to do that, but you didn't do it. | ||
| Well, they offered it to me when I was hosting Fear Factor the second time around, which was like 2011. I talked with my family, but I didn't want to live in New York for three months and all that nastiness. | ||
| I was like, I'm not interested. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| You know, I don't want to pull my kids out and have them... | ||
| Were they born and raised here? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It just didn't seem like a smart thing to do. | ||
| It just seemed like something I'm going to be annoyed with. | ||
| I didn't want to be angry at anybody. | ||
| I'm just not that guy. | ||
| I can't do those. | ||
| I have to feel that right now, man. | ||
| It's months and months of your time. | ||
| For me, it's like, I want to get fighting. | ||
| After my fight, I kind of like, because we're in Marvel Stadium, I kind of said something about Marvel, like, you know, I'll see you guys soon or whatever I said. | ||
| But, after fighting, right now, like I said, they're coming for me. | ||
| So I got to make sure I don't want to end up like some others in this game where they get distracted and look at Hollywood and the show. | ||
| So I get some offers coming to my table right now and I'm just like... | ||
| Yeah, nah. | ||
| Those cautionary tales, they're so readily available for you to consume. | ||
| Look at Ronda Rousey. | ||
| Ronda Rousey's the best example. | ||
| She's on top of the fucking world, man. | ||
| They all came coming and she said yes to everything. | ||
| She was doing everything, man. | ||
| She was doing movies, she was doing interviews, she was writing books. | ||
| And, you know, one thing, you gotta give it to Conor McGregor. | ||
| I mean, Conor McGregor said no to all that shit when he was on top. | ||
| He said no to all that shit. | ||
| I've learned from her, from him, from John, from Silva, from everyone. | ||
| I've seen the highs and the lows of this game, man. | ||
| And like I said, I'll make my own mistakes, but guess what? | ||
| I'll bounce right back. | ||
| I always will. | ||
| But it's better to learn from the mistakes. | ||
| You'll make less the way you're approaching things. | ||
| You will. | ||
| I know me. | ||
| Actually, Eugene sees me every day. | ||
| That's why sometimes I'm like... | ||
| The same rhetoric. | ||
| I'm your biggest fan or you inspire me or this and that. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| If you can take inspiration from the story that you've seen through TV, through media, fuck yeah. | ||
| Go hard. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Is it weird still seeing your face on people's stomachs? | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's a guy. | ||
| How was him? | ||
| Dylan. | ||
| Shout out to Dylan. | ||
| He's got my face on his thigh. | ||
| I met him in a club in Auckland. | ||
| And, yeah, I flew him plus one to my last fight just because I was like, fuck. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| I'm like, I got to have to tattoo his face on my thigh now. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That would be a thing. | ||
| Like, if you get a Stylebender tattoo, you get a free ticket to your style defense. | ||
| Don't put it out there. | ||
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Don't do it. | |
| How many people you think would do that? | ||
| It's crazy, motherfuckers. | ||
| We'll do it just for the low. | ||
| Just like, ah, I did it. | ||
| And just for the free tickets, too. | ||
| As Israel Adesanya, the last stylebender incorporated, I do not agree with the sentiments of Joe Rogan in the last speech. | ||
| We would have to prove. | ||
| Do it at your own risk. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| We'd have to prove that you got a tattoo of stylebender before this day. | ||
| Before I blew up. | ||
| Before this day. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So this is like, you can't do it after you hear us talk about it. | ||
|
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There's only two. | |
| There's only two. | ||
| I can't remember the other guy's name. | ||
| That's what you know. | ||
| You only know about two. | ||
| Actually, three. | ||
| There's one chick from somewhere in South America, the Brazilian girl. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I can't remember her name. | ||
| She's just going to stop being on her arm. | ||
| How does she look? | ||
| She's all right. | ||
| I can't remember her name, but shout out to Mamacita. | ||
| If you were fucking a girl who had your name tattooed on her, that's dangerous moves. | ||
| That's dangerous moves. | ||
| That's Russian roulette right there, son. | ||
| Or even if a chick has, like, maybe your face on her back or something, and some guy's hitting her from the back, and it's just like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| That's rough. | ||
| It's a third eye looking there. | ||
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I'm looking so high. | |
| That's rough. | ||
| A girl with your name on it though, if you met up with a fan who had your name tattooed or your face tattooed on her, that's risky. | ||
| That's rushing when we met with four bullets. | ||
| I make sure people are around for that one. | ||
| Yes, everybody. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| I don't want to catch no Bill Cosby. | ||
| So I have my hands. | ||
| When you take a picture, you're just like, you do the Keanu Reeves. | ||
| Do the air float. | ||
| The floating hands. | ||
| Catch no Bill Cosby. | ||
| I know they're coming, man. | ||
| I know, because I've already foreseen everything that's kind of happening. | ||
| And I know this kind of shit's coming. | ||
| So I just have to make sure, you know, like Addison says, stay focused, you know, dog my eyes, cross my T's. | ||
| Make sure they don't catch me slipping. | ||
| Well, you're looking at it the right way because you realize that right now you're at this... | ||
| It's like a funnel, right? | ||
| You're at the opening of the funnel where it's just going to go... | ||
| The options. | ||
| Because you're newly crowned as the champion. | ||
| And as you defend the title and start murking motherfuckers and become bigger and bigger and bigger and then the UFC puts you in more and more promos, your pay-per-views sell more and more, you become an international star, then it gets crazy. | ||
| Then you can't go anywhere and people are screaming when they see you walking to a restaurant. | ||
| Even after my press conference in Melbourne, before the fight, after the press conference, the one that the guy with the megaphone was fucking with me on, after that, that night... | ||
| What was he doing? | ||
| I'm sure someone planted it, because even I asked Robert after, I was like, did you pay that guy? | ||
| He's like, fuck no. | ||
| I was like, you should have. | ||
| Because he had a megaphone. | ||
| And the whole time, he just kept on interrupting me on one and I was going back and forth with him. | ||
| But I liked it because guess what? | ||
| If he wasn't there, it would have been a boring press conference. | ||
| He's not going to say shit. | ||
| He backtracked already. | ||
| But after that press conference, I lit up in the alleyway, smoked up, and I walked around Melbourne with my AirPods in. | ||
| And I just walked around the city. | ||
| And at one point, I just sat at a tram stop so I can just sit there. | ||
| And people were just going back and forth. | ||
| And I could just sit there and look normal and just like... | ||
| Soak it all in, because I know eventually I won't be able to do shit like this. | ||
| After my debut in Perth, I did the same thing after breakfast the next day, just walked around, just enjoying the view, enjoying just being me, because I'm not saying I'm going to blow up, but I know I'm going to blow up. | ||
| You're going to blow up. | ||
| Like ISIS. Yeah, you just got to understand what it is, and it's going to get confusing. | ||
| And what you said earlier about fame is very, very smart, that you said no one really tells you how to prepare for that. | ||
| What about you? | ||
| How'd you deal with it when you were young? | ||
| I got a slow drip. | ||
| I got fame and a slow drip. | ||
| I got a tolerance for it because I was on television in 1994 and nobody knew who the fuck I was. | ||
| I was one of eight people on a not so successful sitcom. | ||
| It was a great sitcom but it was not so successful. | ||
| And then I had a couple little television gigs on stand-up comedy shows, but nothing big. | ||
| And so I could kind of sell a weekend at a club, but I had to do morning radio. | ||
| I wasn't famous, but I was a little bit known. | ||
| And then Fear Factor came along, and that was a big jump. | ||
| That was a big jump. | ||
| Yeah, that was a big jump. | ||
| That was a big jump because then I was on a giant hit television show that was iconic. | ||
| It was on for six years, 148 episodes. | ||
| That was family time. | ||
| That was a big jump. | ||
| But then there was the podcast, which came after all that. | ||
| And the podcast was like a slow run. | ||
| It was slow. | ||
| You were famous before the podcast. | ||
| Yeah, I was famous. | ||
| But then the podcast changed everything. | ||
| So how'd you deal with it from the big jump from, you know, just a comedian to Fairfactor guy? | ||
| How did you, like... | ||
| I just got used to it. | ||
| And I'm also like you in the sense that I don't... | ||
| I don't want to get caught up doing stupid shit. | ||
| I don't want to think about things the wrong way. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Your girl's in the window. | ||
| Who that? | ||
| Five more minutes? | ||
| Is that what she's saying? | ||
| Five more. | ||
| Do you have something hard out? | ||
| Yeah, they're working me. | ||
| In New York, literally... | ||
| They're working you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Off the chain like a runaway thing. | ||
| That's why I don't like publicists being around here. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| I didn't know she was going to be here, but I don't mind. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Yeah, she's at five minutes. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Fame is a trick that works on other people, but it shouldn't work on you. | ||
| You gotta know who you are. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| If it works on you, you're fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's like, if you're a magician, you really think you pulled a rabbit out of the hat? | ||
| You're fucked now, man. | ||
| You're living in a world of nonsense. | ||
| I think one thing that helps is martial arts. | ||
| Jiu-jitsu helps. | ||
| When you go get strangled all the time, that helps. | ||
| I fucking hate that word, man. | ||
| Honestly, it's so overused. | ||
| And I've said it before. | ||
| I'm like, what's humble? | ||
| Especially in New Zealand, there's this culture of like... | ||
| People even like, they don't like me because it's, oh, he's not humble like a true Kiwi. | ||
| He's not, you know, like the All Blacks, you know, humble. | ||
| And what they mean, and I've asked people this, what does humble mean? | ||
| And someone said, oh, you know, you just don't brag. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| They just mean downplaying your success. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So if anyone like me rocks up and just, I'm owning it. | ||
| I'm like, fuck it. | ||
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You're owning it. | |
| I'm the champ. | ||
| I'm the man. | ||
| I'm being the champ. | ||
| You're him. | ||
| And then they say, oh no, he's not humble. | ||
| But I tell you what, humble is when I have Dan Hooker on my fucking neck, hangman. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Humble is when I have Stephen Warby cracking me with an uppercut. | ||
| Humble is when I have Carlos kicking me in the body and making my liver go... | ||
| That's true humility. | ||
| But me, like, trying to act, you know, dull my shine just to make someone else feel comfortable, that's not humble. | ||
| And I see that as a problem with that, like, crabs in the bucket thing. | ||
| When Kamaru was about to win the title, a reporter asked me, like, you know, oh, does a part of you hope that Kamaru loses so you can be the first Nigerian middleweight champion? | ||
| What fucking, what reporter said that to you? | ||
| I can't remember, but it's in the press conference. | ||
| They asked me, and I was like, I don't think like that. | ||
| That's clickbait. | ||
| No, no, but that doesn't work. | ||
| He was hoping I'd say something like that. | ||
| I see them. | ||
| I've banned someone already. | ||
| I don't do any interviews with them. | ||
| If they talk to me, I just, next. | ||
| You know that episode of Black Mirror where you block someone? | ||
| I've blocked him. | ||
| I would record who that is. | ||
| They take a cheap shot and they don't understand. | ||
| That's you, man. | ||
| Now you're that guy that takes those cheap shots. | ||
| Everybody's going to remember that. | ||
| You think you're just trying to make some noise, make a little pop, but you're creating bad energy for no reason. | ||
| You're trying to get something for now. | ||
| You're not thinking of longevity. | ||
| Because in the future, I'm not going to talk to you now. | ||
| What is it about Nigerians? | ||
| Why are Nigerians so clever? | ||
| All these internet scams. | ||
| When you hear about internet scams, it's Nigerians. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Nigerians come to America, they're one of the most successful groups of immigrants in all the fucking countries, 100 plus whatever countries. | ||
| Nigerians murder it when they come to America. | ||
| There's something about, there's a work ethic, but there's also a cleverness. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| To Nigerians. | ||
| I've said it before. | ||
| I'm the runt of my people, brain-wise, body-wise. | ||
| Because when I went back recently, honestly, man, you see people who are just bricklaying, and they are jacked. | ||
| They are ripped, some of them. | ||
| And they don't maybe have the best nutrition. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there's something about the genetics of our people. | ||
| It's a warrior race. | ||
| And I don't say that likely. | ||
| I'm just being honest. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's different. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think also the culture, because I was doing algebra in school when I was like seven, and then I went to, I remember when I first moved to New Zealand, Form 1. I had to do Form 1 in three different countries, so I started Form 1. I don't know what you guys have here. | ||
| Form 1, sound like first grade? | ||
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No. | |
| I don't know how it is, but pretty much I was 10 years old, and I moved to Ghana for a little bit, and I had to repeat it again. | ||
| Then I moved to New Zealand, and I had to repeat it again, because they said, no, he's too young. | ||
| He can't be doing that. | ||
| But the thing is, I wasn't even the smartest. | ||
| I was the bottom three in my class, so I wasn't the smartest of the bunch. | ||
| In Nigeria? | ||
| In Nigeria. | ||
| So when I came to New Zealand, Form 1, I remember my first day in school. | ||
| They had a test, like early workout or something, or one of the first weeks in school. | ||
| We had to do times table, and I knew the song in my head, so I just like... | ||
| Finish, miss. | ||
| And then all the kids are like, whoa. | ||
| And I'm just like, the fuck? | ||
| And then they all thought I was this fucking savant, this genius. | ||
| And then they started asking me questions like, you know, do you brush your teeth? | ||
| I'm like, yes, I do. | ||
| Do you brush your teeth? | ||
| Like, back home, do you ride on lions? | ||
| And I went home and I was like, mom, these fucking kids are dumb. | ||
| All these white kids are stupid. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| I didn't understand. | ||
| I just thought like, I do regular shit, but they didn't understand me. | ||
| My people are different, man, honestly. | ||
| You've seen it. | ||
| I'm telling you, man, especially right now, what I want to do in Nigeria, I want to introduce them, take the football or soccer ball out of their hands and show them some gloves. | ||
| We have some great boxes. | ||
| We have this thing called Dambe, which is Nigerian wrestling, kind of like the Senegalese type wrestling with some beasts. | ||
| But Dambe, you know, they wrap rope around one hand, just one hand, and they just paw with the other hand, and they wrestle, and they throw strikes. | ||
| Also, they have, like, some juju, some black magic, you know, all that kind of stuff. | ||
| Like, they sprinkle that in there. | ||
| I got my own as well at 3 a.m., you know. | ||
| But literally, I can't wait to, like, show them, like, because when I went back, I was trying to just chill, low-key, sneak into the country, but my dad said it can't happen. | ||
| They're watching you. | ||
| Everyone knows who you are. | ||
| From the airport, all the area boys. | ||
| Ah, Israel, this on ya! | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| Ah, can I take a photo? | ||
| Police officers showing what's up, showing love. | ||
| Crooked police officers, some of them. | ||
| They're showing what's up, showing love. | ||
| And, like, I didn't realize, like, they stay up till 4 a.m. | ||
| to watch me and Kamaru fight. | ||
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Wow. | |
| They're staying up. | ||
| And I've always said I wanted to be the guy, like, what Pacquiao was to the Philippines. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know? | ||
| The way, when he fights, the whole country shuts down. | ||
| Crime drops, everything. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I wanted to, like, I feel like after this now, it's going to keep blowing up. | ||
| And I'm going to go back next year. | ||
| I'm going to go back next year. | ||
| I'm going to... | ||
| I hope they see the possibilities, because I'm telling you, man, the countries, I mean, it was Brazil at first in the early stages of MMA, then Japan, then America, then, you know, like, it always goes back and forth, and then, you know, the Oceania people right now, we're doing some work, but I'm telling you, once, not just Nigerians, once the Africans, once they start stepping in, it's gonna be like when 50 Cent dropped in the club and killed the whole game for a while. | ||
| Like, honestly, I'm telling you, like, they're gonna run the game for a long time, for a long time, and I'm I'm happy to be a guy that's kind of like paving the way. | ||
| It's crazy though. | ||
| What was it like going back there? | ||
| Being the champ. | ||
| Going back there. | ||
| It was beautiful. | ||
| Like just seeing my people. | ||
| It's different when you're in Vegas and oh my god dude I'm your biggest fan. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| But it's different when you see like a kid just in shock that you're even standing there. | ||
| Like just in shock that you're in his presence. | ||
| And for me I don't see myself as a style man. | ||
| I'm Israel. | ||
| I did something at the end of the day. | ||
| But when they're looking at you and just like And this kid, I remember he was on my Instagram, he was kicking a bag and I just showed him, I tweaked him. | ||
| I just told him to pivot on the foot, stand on the toes and turn the hip. | ||
| Literally within a minute, he improved his kick like that. | ||
| And I got it on my Instagram somewhere, but man, I was really impressed. | ||
| And that was just a little snippet of the creativity of our people. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| The way. | ||
| Oh, man, this guy made me cry. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| This is my old primary school, man. | ||
| Like, going back here, I was looking at... | ||
| I used to hide there for hide-and-seek, and everything seemed so small, because when you're a kid, everything's so big. | ||
| This is me at, I think, Lakey Beach, just chilling with the people, man. | ||
| I was immersed in the culture. | ||
| Seen all those kids with their uniforms on, grabbing at your belt. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| Yeah, honestly, man. | ||
| It was like... | ||
| It reminded me of... | ||
| Fuck, goosebumps again. | ||
| It reminded me of... | ||
| What is this gym here? | ||
| This is just... | ||
| The stadium. | ||
| I went there to go watch, and then the guy, the trainer was like, Shay, you are not training. | ||
| I'm like, what do you mean? | ||
| He's like, you are training. | ||
| Get up. | ||
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I was like, okay. | |
| I had my fucking nice Jordans on, and I just had to work. | ||
| I think he was trying to flex. | ||
| He was trying to show me, I'm going to work you. | ||
| And he put us to work. | ||
| And that's me on holiday as well. | ||
| What is this video? | ||
| Can people watch this? | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| Go on my Instagram or go on EMG. What do you call it? | ||
| EMG Access. | ||
| It says, Israel, the last stylebender Adesanya in Nigeria. | ||
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It's on the YouTube. | |
| EMG YouTube Engage Media Group. | ||
| That's beautiful, man. | ||
| Yeah, but there's some more. | ||
| We're doing a documentary right now, and Jeff's been following me around since 2015, and I want to say this is the end of the first documentary, but the beginning of the next one, I want to show what I can do in Nigeria, what I can do in Africa, because even Kamaru went to Makoko. | ||
| We almost died there. | ||
| We were in there with some killers. | ||
| You see how that plays? | ||
| Go back, Jamie, go back. | ||
| See how that plays? | ||
| Go back, forward. | ||
| It's like a maze. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Yeah, see how that's like a maze? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The first day we went there, I went there just trying to like show love to the hood, say what's up. | ||
| And all this area boy is like, oh God, what do you need to do here? | ||
| Like, what are you doing here? | ||
| And I'm like, I'm just looking around here. | ||
| Ah, you kind of, you're more set to loss. | ||
| Like, you got to settle them. | ||
| You got to make sure they're all right. | ||
| I was like, don't worry. | ||
| We'll look after you guys. | ||
| But then within the first five minutes, me and Abiola, my friend who came with me, he's like, we got to go. | ||
| Because he's very smart. | ||
| He's very, very wrong. | ||
| So we're like, all right. | ||
| And I had a guy with an AK with me, a security guard. | ||
| And the guys, the gangsters, they were kind of flexing. | ||
| I was like, oh, fuck you guys then. | ||
| So the next day, see, this is the asshole in me. | ||
| I went there shirtless, all my chains on, fucking vest, and I got like more security with me with more AKs and went deep. | ||
| We didn't have to go deep to get that sky shot. | ||
| And Jeff hates me for it because he fucking panicked the whole time. | ||
| And I went deep and there's all these killers, man. | ||
| Like literally, I'm talking like you see scars on them like marks because that's the body counts and shit like that. | ||
| And this one dude looked like Kimbo Slice. | ||
| And he's like the head honcho. | ||
| And he was arguing with this other guy because they were saying like, no, I'm giving them the tour. | ||
| What they give us is my money and I'll sell it to you. | ||
| And he's like, no, I'm the big dog. | ||
| You report to me. | ||
| And they were kind of having an argument about it. | ||
| And it was real heated. | ||
| If they wanted to fuck us up right there and say, fuck you guys, it's a fucking maze. | ||
| They know that shit like the back of their hand. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| We're fucked. | ||
| And you're walking through it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you're walking on planks in the water. | ||
| You saw the water. | ||
| It's fucking dirty, like disgusting. | ||
| But that's like one of the slums in Nigeria. | ||
| But then you see before the shot, that was Victoria Island. | ||
| That's like the contrast of Nigeria, man. | ||
| You have dirt poor and you have well-off Lamborghinis, like people living nicely. | ||
| Those are all the guys who scam people. | ||
| Yeah, but they're smart as fuck. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| The email shit is so old now. | ||
| What do they do now? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not your uncle. | ||
| Don't check your emails. | ||
| I'm a Nigerian prince. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| You get your money. | ||
| Just wait. | ||
| It's just the fees. | ||
| The fees got to like... | ||
| The way the bank account's set up, all that kind of stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's amazing that they figured it out to the point where that is synonymous with scams. | ||
| It's like you saw the cheaters. | ||
| Nigerian scams. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, you hear about... | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| Like, we're scamming, but a lot of them, it's because of the opportunity. | ||
| They're so smart, but the opportunity isn't there. | ||
| So they can't go to school. | ||
| They can't do that. | ||
| Do you hear about the guy who sold a fucking airport? | ||
| That didn't exist to Japan? | ||
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Really? | |
| Remember that one? | ||
| A Nigerian dude sold a fucking airport that wasn't a real airport. | ||
| We're winning. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| No many people do that with like buildings or Airbnbs, but that's a fucking airport. | ||
| An airport! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Bro, he sold an airport. | ||
| Fuck, the Japanese are smart too, man. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about it like a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's bonkers. | ||
| Like, they spent a fuckload of money. | ||
| It was like in the 80s or something? | ||
| The 90s? | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They gotta make a movie about that. | ||
| Oh, they should. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| $242 million. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Sold a fake airport for $242 million. | ||
| How do you do that? | ||
| It's fucking Nigeria, man! | ||
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I don't even understand. | |
| Like I'm saying, this is not the best representative of our people, but this shows you how smart, how fucking smart they are, man. | ||
| Well, listen, man, if you're stuck and you got nowhere out and you live in that maze, that's the way out. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, you got to do what you got to do. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| When I was in Dubai, I don't know if I should say this story. | ||
| Fuck it, no one's listening. | ||
| We're on the boat for someone's birthday party, and I'm seeing all these kids, like 17, 16, 18, with like iced out Rolexes. | ||
| You know, I'm on a yacht partying for some guy's birthday, and they're just out there flexing. | ||
| And I'm just like, what do you do? | ||
| He said, oh, I invested in Bitcoin early, da-da-da-da-da. | ||
| I was like, uh-huh. | ||
| Now, Yahoo boy. | ||
| They call them Yahoo boys. | ||
| But I knew already, but the thing is, they're so smart. | ||
| They know how to work. | ||
| They know how to like... | ||
| And they're all over the world. | ||
| Like I said, we're like a virus. | ||
| Nigerians are everywhere. | ||
| Wherever you look in the world, we're everywhere. | ||
| And we have our claim. | ||
| But I can't wait till this documentary, man. | ||
| Like, I really want to like... | ||
| Show people over there what we can do. | ||
| I want to show, first of all, the story. | ||
| It's not going to be like... | ||
| McGregor's documentary was dope, but it was more catered to the MMA fans. | ||
| And anyone can watch it, but I want this to be more like the soccer mom can watch it. | ||
| Someone from the Burbs, someone from Alaska can watch it and still relate. | ||
| There's different levels to this, but I'm looking forward to really putting that out. | ||
| Are you thinking about opening gyms over there? | ||
| In Nigeria, yes. | ||
| Eventually. | ||
| I want to kit out some of the gyms, like the one I went to, the sports stadium I was at. | ||
| I want to help them out with some stuff. | ||
| That's later on when I go through. | ||
| And normally I do things like this. | ||
| Like when I went there, I did some stuff, but I don't do it for like, it's real weird when you're on this platform and I see people trying to do shit for the likes. | ||
| For me, I cringe because I can't do that. | ||
| But when you have a platform like this and you can bring attention to certain causes and certain people, then I don't mind using my platform for shit like that. | ||
| So I really want to bring some attention to my people because I feel like they deserve it, but also they can earn it. | ||
| They can earn it. | ||
| And I know they can, man. | ||
| I can't wait to show them. | ||
| I'm the first, man. | ||
| Kamaru's the first. | ||
| I'm the second. | ||
| You see guys like Sadiq. | ||
| First time I watched him fight live. | ||
| Have you seen him fight live? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I was watching him cage side, and he was hitting this guy with body shots. | ||
| You could hear the pounding, and I was just like, wow. | ||
| In his last fight, he shot some, what do you call it, some fortitude as well, because he got hit, he got cracked, and then he cracked the guy and dropped him. | ||
| I'm telling you, man, there's a few more coming, and I can't. | ||
| It'll be fantastic if you open up a gym there instead of being a proven ground. | ||
| A chain of gyms. | ||
| I really want to open a chain of gyms. | ||
| Maybe it doesn't have to be a UFC gym, but they can get involved. | ||
| They can get a cut. | ||
| Oh, well, UFC, I'm sure, would be excited about doing that now. | ||
| They see what's happening. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be a great thing for them, too. | ||
| And UFC, I don't know if it's going to be in Nigeria, but UFC Africa. | ||
| Either Nigeria, Morocco, or South Africa. | ||
| Do they have good places to watch over there? | ||
| Do they have it set up? | ||
| Stadiums, 100%. | ||
| The thing is the red tapes you've got to cross. | ||
| I'm sure they can get through those. | ||
| The UFC had that in China as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At one of the shows, I can't remember which one. | ||
| This is one of the early ones. | ||
| They were threatening to cut the power after a certain time. | ||
| So they had to settle some people to keep the lights on. | ||
| Keep the shackles on. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And that's easy for them. | ||
| The UFC, they got money. | ||
| I've seen the Apex building. | ||
| They got a couple bucks. | ||
| A couple, a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen, man, you gotta get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Thanks for coming in, my brother. | ||
| I know. | ||
| How dare they? | ||
| Well, we did two and a half hours. | ||
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Fuck off. | |
| You're lying. | ||
| It's 2.30, man. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It flies in this room. | ||
| This is a time zone. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Like the hyperbolic time chamber. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen, brother, I'm happy with what's happened to you. | ||
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It's beautiful. | |
| Thank you so much for the love, man. | ||
| It's my pleasure. | ||
| Always, my brother. | ||
| It's great to see that you're doing everything the right way, man. | ||
| It's an honor. | ||
| It's an honor to have you in here. | ||
| It's special for me to watch someone go through, navigate it. | ||
| Honestly, you have no idea. | ||
| My old boss used to get mad at me because she'd be like, get that out of your ear. | ||
| Because I'd have like one headphone in it and I'd just be like... | ||
| And then I'll do it on the site you can't see. | ||
| So for me to have like you, Brian Redbin, you know, I think Young Jamie was out here back then as well. | ||
| Was he? | ||
| Way back in the day. | ||
| But like literally, like it was just cool just to be here and do this shit. | ||
| Like fuck, it's all manifestation. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| Keep going, man. | ||
| That's how the world works. | ||
| We in the Matrix. | ||
| You're showing everybody too though. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| Alright, that's it. | ||
| Respect brother. | ||
| Respect to you. | ||
| Much love. | ||
| Respect Young Jamie. | ||
| Bye everybody. |
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