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Oct. 9, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1364 - Brian Redban
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joe rogan
Hello, Brian.
unidentified
Hello, Joe.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
brian redban
Just hanging.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not sober, are you?
This isn't sober October for you.
brian redban
Oh, no.
joe rogan
You're not doing it?
brian redban
Nah.
joe rogan
You can get high.
I'll watch.
brian redban
Okay.
Can I blow it on you?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think that counts.
Oh, this is a joint.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that's all weed.
That's Mike Tyson's weed.
brian redban
Oh, sweet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
I got a torch.
unidentified
Cigar torch.
joe rogan
I could smoke a cigar with you.
brian redban
Oh, sweet.
joe rogan
That's legal.
Ari and I were thinking that when we started Sober October, we started smoking cigars, we were thinking maybe that will disqualify us and we can just quit.
brian redban
Yeah, what does...
Kabucha has alcohol.
unidentified
Kabucha?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it can't really get you drunk.
You stay sober.
You'd have to drink a case of it to even catch a buzz.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
But if you scheduled a doctor's appointment, like a dentist appointment, they gave you some pills or something.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You get lit up.
jamie vernon
Okay?
joe rogan
Yeah, like, what if you get surgery?
Like, what if somebody got their appendix taken out?
brian redban
Yeah, are you allowed to do any kind of, like, medication or medicine?
joe rogan
No, you have to die.
There's no real rules for that.
I mean, look, it's not...
The thing about this contest that's really stupid is there's no consequences.
jamie vernon
Not even a friendly penalty of, like...
joe rogan
No, there's nothing.
jamie vernon
Open for someone.
joe rogan
I could have a glass of wine right now.
Nothing could happen.
brian redban
Yeah.
Oh, no, I lost.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, my God, I lost.
I'll tell you what, though.
I've been getting a lot of messages from people that are inspired, and it makes me feel real good.
I reached out to some dude yesterday on Instagram because he lost...
Something like 200 fucking pounds.
I mean, it's crazy.
That's the dude who had the scars all over because he got the extra skin removed after he lost all the weight.
It's amazing.
Sober October, you know, sometimes you just have to have a thing like that where everybody goes, I'm going to do it too.
And then it gives you the reason, like a motivation to get going.
Sometimes that's all people need, man.
brian redban
Yeah, I just got over the keto thing, so now I'm just like, fuck that.
I feel like I'm free again, like I can have normal food again.
That's hard to do, man.
joe rogan
Keto's hard to do.
brian redban
It kind of got to me to the point where now I'm doing the opposite.
I'm just like, I want to eat everything, because I've been wanting to eat pizza for so long, and...
joe rogan
Like Catholic school girls.
Tell them to stay away from tech and they can't wait to get a hold of one.
brian redban
100%.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
People don't like being told what to do.
They don't like being forced into something that they don't enjoy.
That's why school is ineffective.
That's why so many things don't work.
But the keto thing, the problem with it is...
I think it's a healthy thing for a lot of folks.
If you have epilepsy, apparently it's the thing because it can stop your seizures.
There's people that have epilepsy, they get ketogenic and it just kicks it off.
You don't get seizures anymore.
But it's boring.
Every now and then I want pasta.
And also fruit.
I like fruit.
brian redban
That was the biggest one for me.
Just fruit.
Like watermelon.
You know how great just having some watermelon in the morning is?
Oh my god.
joe rogan
It's the most delicious fruit ever, I think.
Like a good, perfect watermelon on a hot day.
My god.
It's amazing.
You know, it's a fucked up fruit, though, because it's only racist fruit.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
It's like the only fruit that's attached to racism.
There's no other fruit where you can make fun of someone for eating and it's like racist.
Have you ever had that durian shit?
brian redban
Yeah.
It's good.
joe rogan
It's not bad, right?
But God, it smells weird.
brian redban
It smells horrible.
It smells horrible.
joe rogan
Have you had it, Jamie?
They have it in Thailand.
In Thailand, they love it.
I tried it in Thailand.
It's like this weird...
brian redban
It's like spiky looking.
joe rogan
Yeah, spiky on the outside.
Then the inside, it's kind of mango-like.
Sort of like a pale mango.
It's not my favorite, but I tried it.
But god damn, it smells like dog shit.
It smells so bad that they ban it in a lot of hotels.
Because people will go into hotels, and folks that come from a culture where they eat that stuff all the time, they'll bring bags of it, and the whole family's eating that stuff, and it wafts down the hallway, and people are like, what in the fuck?
jamie vernon
It says it smells like Limburger, or it has been compared to Limburger.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's got a weird smell.
jamie vernon
You can't take it on public transportation in some places either.
joe rogan
Yeah, it stinks.
It's weird, but it tastes good.
brian redban
My friend did that fasting diet.
What's that?
Not fasting.
The one where you only eat a small part of the day.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do that.
Intermittent fasting.
brian redban
He woke up sleepwalking one night.
Found out on his Nest cams, like his security cameras, he goes into the bathroom, passes and falls down, and hits his head, and he showed a picture of just blood everywhere in his bathroom.
Goes back to bed, didn't even know about it.
Wakes up and he sees blood everywhere.
Checks his cameras, finally he's sleepwalking.
A couple days later, he starts having seizures, like out of the blue.
Goes to the doctor, and the doctor says it's because of that, that diet he was doing.
His brain was starving...
That's what that doctor said.
joe rogan
That doctor's making shit up.
unidentified
Yeah, you think that?
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy needs to go to a neurologist.
He's probably got a fucking brain tumor.
brian redban
One thing, though, I did know is that when I was on keto, I sleptwalked a lot.
And I think it was my body trying to find sugar.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, because I never sleepwalk because I have cameras in my living room.
joe rogan
I can't do this on this.
brian redban
Yeah, I know.
It's kind of weird.
But when I was on keto, I sleptwalked maybe 10 times.
Since I've been off, I haven't sleptwalked once.
joe rogan
Can you say sleptwalked?
Is that the right word?
brian redban
Sleptwalked?
Sleepwalked.
joe rogan
When you talk about past tense, is it sleepwalked or slepwalked?
brian redban
Sleptwalked.
joe rogan
What is it?
It's sleepwalked.
brian redban
I would say sleepwalked.
Yeah, it's probably sleepwalked.
joe rogan
But I don't think I've ever heard anybody say it past tense.
jamie vernon
You can't past tense the first part of the compound word?
joe rogan
Oh, it's a weird one.
It's a weird one.
Slept?
I slept well last night, but I slept walked.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I did some sleepwalking.
You could say that.
brian redban
Sleepwalking?
Yeah, but I think that's kind of interesting.
I wonder if it was my body craving sugar so bad that it woke me up.
Because I was going through the cupboards trying to find sugar.
joe rogan
Oh, well that makes sense.
brian redban
Yeah, but I don't remember any of it.
joe rogan
How long were you keto for?
brian redban
Seven months.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brian redban
Eight months.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
The intermittent fasting is a good move.
Because I think most of the time...
Look, for me, I eat when I'm bored.
I do it all the time.
Like, when I come home from the store and I'm writing, I just start eating.
And then I'm like, what am I doing?
Because I try to do intermittent fasting.
So that means...
If I come home and it's midnight and I'm writing and I start eating, that means I can't eat until 2 in the afternoon the next day.
brian redban
And then just don't wake up until 2 in the afternoon.
unidentified
I don't do that.
joe rogan
I can't.
I gotta work.
I got stuff to do.
I have kids.
I have responsibilities.
I'm not like a Peter Pan like you.
brian redban
Right.
No, I think that would be the diet that makes the most sense, because I already seem to only eat once a day.
It's not healthy, though, to eat once a day.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
You should get a nutritionist.
You got some cash.
You should hire a trainer and get a nutritionist.
brian redban
Yeah.
I'm thinking about going back to Weight Watchers.
I'm almost at my fattest level.
unidentified
No.
brian redban
I want to get really fat.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You said that before.
You were on a strategy before.
I'm like, you keep saying you're going to lose weight.
You're like, I know what I'm doing.
I'm going to get really big, and then I'm going to lose weight.
I'm like, what?
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Because I always forget to take the before photo, and then I'm like halfway through a diet, I'm like, goddammit, now I'm just, I gotta quit this.
joe rogan
Now I'm normal.
Now it's like, oh yeah, but you didn't look that bad before you dieted.
brian redban
Right, right.
I got my big fat beard on.
Just this beard, it looks like I gained 20 pounds.
joe rogan
Yeah, just shave the beard at the end.
It's sort of like when people get a tan, and they're after photos, and they look more ripped.
Yeah, 100%.
Like before, after.
Like the after, you just tan, bro.
Tan with better lighting.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I follow a lot of bodybuilder girls, and I don't know why it's disturbing to me, but when they start cutting down weight, and then you see them, like, monitoring their food and watching their portions and shit, and they're getting leaner and leaner, it bothers me.
Like, I get nervous.
brian redban
Why?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm like, it's just like, don't do that.
Like, ugh, just fucking...
Why?
Like, what are you doing?
Just losing all your fat?
Just so you can get on stage and squeeze everything?
Mm-hmm.
And pose...
I get it, you know?
But I don't...
See, I don't think that looks the best.
That's why I don't understand.
That's what weirds me out.
I don't think it looks the best.
Especially for ladies.
When you're, like, super shredded.
It just doesn't...
brian redban
I don't even like when they have those man shoulders.
You know, where you see, like, a really beautiful girl and then she takes off her cardigan or whatever and you're like, oh, she has, like, her frame looks like a man.
joe rogan
That doesn't bother me.
That means she's durable.
brian redban
Ha ha ha!
joe rogan
It bothers me when they get shredded.
I don't know why.
It seems like they're suffering.
It seems like a mistake.
You know what I mean?
I guess this is probably what it is.
I guess I connected to anorexics.
Because anorexics legitimately freak me out.
There was this one girl that I used to do yoga with.
And it was so sad, man.
It was so sad.
She would come in and everyone would be like, fuck!
She was like 80 pounds.
Her whole body was bones.
She was just bones.
jamie vernon
Joaquin Phoenix and the Joker.
What the fuck did he do to get down to that?
joe rogan
He lost 50 pounds.
jamie vernon
And his shoulder looked all fucked up, too.
joe rogan
Well, he was just posing in weird ways to...
I mean, he nailed that role, dude.
He really...
jamie vernon
He hasn't seen it.
I didn't want to shoot too much.
joe rogan
No spoilers.
brian redban
So you think I should go to the theater for this one?
joe rogan
No, you can watch it at home.
brian redban
Okay.
joe rogan
I mean, when's it coming out at home?
jamie vernon
You'd have to wait.
It just came out, so you just have to wait.
joe rogan
Oh, there's a new thing, apparently, where you can get home movies at home.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Home movies at home.
brian redban
Torrance.
joe rogan
You can get theater movies.
No, not even Torrance.
You can get it, like, legitimately, and you pay quite a bit of money.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's some new thing.
brian redban
Yeah, that should be a thing.
Like, you pay...
How many people would you normally go to a movie with?
Like, four people?
Each ticket's about 20 bucks nowadays.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Pay 60 bucks so you can rent it for 24 hours?
joe rogan
That would be the shit.
jamie vernon
I wanted to do the opposite.
I was trying to look up to see how much it would cost to rent Interstellar, to have a screening at the Chinese Theater in Hollywood.
That was the coolest movie and sound I've ever seen, and I want people I know to experience that.
joe rogan
Oh, right, right, right.
jamie vernon
Because it was fucking so awesome.
brian redban
Do you look up how much it is?
jamie vernon
You can do screenings there.
I think you'd have to figure out how much it costs to rent the print of the movie.
brian redban
Yeah, it used to be 35mm prints when I was a projectionist.
People would rent, like, hey, we just rented Back to the Future for our company picnic.
And as a projectionist, you would get it in the mail with all the other films, and you're like, what the fuck?
Why is Back to the Future here?
I don't think it's that much.
I think it's only a couple hundred, actually.
joe rogan
Why don't we have a JRE movie night?
brian redban
That'd be perfect.
joe rogan
We rent a movie theater.
That would be the shit.
Where would we go, though?
jamie vernon
Big theaters?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
You know where you want to go?
You want to go to one of them Cineopolis.
Cineopolis?
They have drinks?
Yeah, they have drinks and food and the seats lean back.
You get an assigned seat.
jamie vernon
We could do those.
joe rogan
Yeah, we should find out.
jamie vernon
We could want to watch those movies like that Roar movie with the tigers or the lion with the tigers.
joe rogan
Oh, some stupid movies?
Well, according to Joey Diaz, the new Rambo is Roadhouse times a million.
He goes, Joe Rogan, you gotta see this fucking movie.
I was crying laughing.
I was crying laughing.
He goes, it's Roadhouse times a million.
brian redban
It seems like it.
joe rogan
It looks ridiculous.
Well, he's a thousand years old and he's fucking everybody up.
brian redban
I also read it was low budget, though.
Like, really, like, what?
That's surprisingly low budget.
joe rogan
Maybe he's decided he's going to keep all his money.
When you're that age, how old is Stallone now?
Is he 77?
Let's guess.
How old?
brian redban
74. Do you think he's older or younger than Arnold Schwarzenegger?
joe rogan
I think he's older.
How old is he, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I want to say 72, but I'd go with a year older.
joe rogan
Let's try.
jamie vernon
I'm saying 76. 74. 73. 73. Just turned 73 July 6th.
joe rogan
Okay.
So when you're 73, you got to feel like at the most, if everything goes amazing, you got 30 years.
And the last 10, you ain't going to remember shit.
So you got 20 years to burn through a big-ass pile of cash.
What are you going to do?
You going to spend it all on Rambo movies?
Yo!
There's a fucking dog over here!
What is that picture?
jamie vernon
He's got a fake coyote on a golf course.
joe rogan
Why does he have a fake coyote on a golf course?
Is that to keep birds away or some shit?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
Whatever.
To protect them.
unidentified
Hey!
joe rogan
Don't come get me!
What is he doing?
unidentified
Hey!
jamie vernon
Playing around.
joe rogan
He's got some skinny legs, man.
Take that picture of his legs again.
That is crazy.
That makes me nervous that he can walk upstairs.
Why is his leg so skinny?
That looks like an injury or something.
Like his leg has shrunk.
Doesn't that look weird?
brian redban
I mean, he doesn't even look like he has any body right there.
joe rogan
He's so jacked, though.
Apparently in that movie, he's super jacked.
He might have like knee and back problems, though.
When you got back problems, man, your legs shrink.
This was me when I was younger!
I was fucking jacked!
I know a dude who's got a severe back problem and one of his legs is like shriveled up because his nerves aren't firing correctly.
He went to Germany apparently and he got a bunch of discs replaced and it just didn't work well.
And he's just got all sorts of inflammation and scar tissue and his nerves are blocked off.
He had a bunch of fucked up discs.
So he went and he got a bunch of them replaced in one shot and stayed over there for a few months.
And now his body's just fucking up, like left and right.
When you get Rick, real back problems are fucking scary as shit.
I sent Dean Del Rey to Lifespan Medicine to deal with his neck.
Dean Del Rey's got a bulging disc so bad, he's like, Dude, I worry when people bump into me!
When people bump into him, he's in pain.
brian redban
Oh yeah, I thought he had a stroke!
joe rogan
Yeah, like if you pass by him and accidentally bump into him a little bit, he's like, ah!
He gets a stinger.
jamie vernon
From headbanging or?
joe rogan
No, from a motorcycle crash.
Some messed up lady nailed him on his bike.
jamie vernon
Oh, like left over from a few years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got fucked up pretty bad and it's not getting any better.
brian redban
Yeah.
It was so weird because he's like, I quit riding bikes after that.
But then he got a bike like six months later.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
You almost died.
joe rogan
Well, I think for Dean, he's trying to make some...
He bought a nice car, like a Porsche.
He had a great deal on it.
And then he flipped it.
I mean, not flipped it, like died in a crash.
Like Kevin Hart style.
He just turned it over and made some money off of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I think that's when he bought a bike.
But yeah, I guess people who love bikes, man, they think it's worth a risk.
brian redban
Fuck that.
Out here, I can't believe that there's not more of those scooter deaths everywhere.
joe rogan
I know, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, those things are goddamn fast.
When we were in Denver, they're everywhere.
And everybody's riding those electric scooters all over the place.
You know, like, is that really how you want to go out?
jamie vernon
You didn't try mine yet, did you?
joe rogan
No, is it fast?
jamie vernon
24 miles an hour?
joe rogan
Dude, yours looks pretty good.
jamie vernon
It's way faster than those bird scooters.
brian redban
Do you trust that shit?
I don't trust that shit anymore.
I flipped over my bike a couple years ago and I'm like, that's a message.
I know too many people that are broken.
My friend broke both of his arms on one of those scooters.
He flipped and he landed on his arms.
Both of his arms.
And he had to have his mom live with him for like a couple months because he couldn't do anything.
joe rogan
When I was doing Zookeeper with Kevin James, I did a lot of my own bike riding and I fucking wiped out hard because I didn't realize that if we were in this scene where he was beside me and I was trying to hit him with a flag and he was beside me on his bike and I was holding on to the handlebars with my left hand which is your front wheel.
So when I hit the brakes on my left hand, I just went flying over the top of the handlebars.
I didn't do it just once either.
I fucking wiped out pretty hard.
Like, here, watch.
jamie vernon
It shows it in slow-mo, right?
brian redban
DVD extra, right here.
unidentified
Hey, watch.
joe rogan
Ba-boom!
Yeah.
That's a pretty good wipeout.
brian redban
Yeah, that's exactly what I did on my bike.
I flipped over, like, exactly like that.
joe rogan
But I got lucky.
Didn't get hurt.
But it's just luck.
You land on your arm wrong, your elbow goes backwards, and then you're fucked.
jamie vernon
That was just you grabbing the wrong brake, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I just went over the handlebars.
But bikes, you could get fucked up.
When I was in Utah recently, we were driving down the road And we saw this lady fall on her bike.
She was across the street on the other side, and she was trying to do something.
And she just got tangled up in her pedal and just dumped over and landed on one arm, tried to post on her left arm and snapped her arm.
And then she couldn't get up.
She was screaming, so we went over and pulled over.
And...
People don't know how to deal with injuries.
So people are like, okay, let's take your backpack off.
I go, don't touch her.
I go, she has a broken arm.
Listen to me.
Don't touch her.
And I'm like, listen, we're going to get you a hospital.
We're going to get you an ambulance.
And it was lucky that she was like a block away from the police station.
But people want to do things.
They want to like, okay, let's take her arm and put it in a splint.
Let's tape it up.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Don't do shit.
unidentified
Don't do shit.
brian redban
Neck injuries also?
Like car accidents?
People are not even...
joe rogan
Well, Kevin Hart's accident, they pulled him out of the car, and then they took him to his house.
And he had three broken vertebrae.
Yeah, don't do that.
Don't touch anybody.
You can just yank someone the wrong way after an injury and make them way, way worse.
This lady's arm was so obviously broken.
The cops didn't even notice it.
The cops came over...
And they're like, oh, so how's everything right now?
Are you feeling okay?
Anything wrong?
I go, she's got a broken arm.
He's like, where's the arm broken?
I go, look at her left arm.
He's like, oh.
Like, look, her fucking left arm was so broken.
It's like, when you see someone's broken bones, and unfortunately, I'm really used to it.
I see so many injuries from fights, you know, from the UFC. I'm so used to seeing breaks and things broken.
I just looked at her and I'm like, yep, that's what that is.
Her elbow was like, her arm went straight and her elbow went back.
I'm like, we're not moving.
Don't take her backpack off.
But she started hyperventilating.
She had never broken anything.
She was 50. She's like, I've never broken a bone before.
I'm like, it's not a bad one.
It's just an arm.
You're going to be alright.
Put it in the cast.
Six weeks from now, you're going to be laughing at this.
People sign your cast.
You'll have a funny story.
It's just a broken arm.
Have you ever broken an arm, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Knock on wood, I have not broken a bone.
joe rogan
No bones?
jamie vernon
Nothing.
joe rogan
What about you?
brian redban
Same here.
We got that Ohio water.
jamie vernon
Good dairy.
brian redban
Yeah, not dairy.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
Ohio dairy.
That and no contact sports.
jamie vernon
Big football state, Camacho.
joe rogan
Did you play football?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Not in high school, but up to high school.
joe rogan
Up to high school?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, when you're a little kid, it seems like you can just get fucking plowed over and you bend and bounce back up.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they throw you into each other.
The dads will just grab you and just smack you into each other.
joe rogan
But kids are so light.
They're so light and they just bounce off each other.
jamie vernon
When we talk about bikes...
Have you seen this before?
I'm going to play this video, but...
brian redban
Fuck this, yes.
joe rogan
What is this?
jamie vernon
It's called the, like, Mountain of Hell.
There's another name for it, too.
I can't remember.
Like, Mountainocalypse or something like that.
They start in France on the top of the Alps.
2,000 bikers.
joe rogan
Is that snow?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's on the top of a glacier.
You end up going, like, 5,000 feet downhill.
It's like a mile or two down.
joe rogan
And you're riding on ice?
jamie vernon
Yeah, these are the guys in front, but here in a second when they have to turn...
It creates this fucking insane pileup of people that you can't avoid.
So you have to be in front.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
It'll happen here in a second.
Here's the first one, and then it just causes a major pileup.
joe rogan
Bing!
Bang!
Boom!
And then dudes are trying to dive out of the way.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
And you're just going downhill.
It's like on a ski slope, but everyone's on mountain bikes, for those that are listening.
joe rogan
Oh!
Now, oh!
It's like ants.
And then dudes are braking early to try to avoid it, and they're just wiping out at the top.
Oh my god.
What a stupid thing to do.
When you know that that many people are going to crash, look at this guy on the outside, trying to go, fell on his own.
jamie vernon
Some guys haven't made it down there yet.
They're still at the top.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they're going to try to figure out a path.
But you can't really hit the brakes, right?
jamie vernon
You're on ice.
You're going downhill on ice.
So I don't know how that works.
joe rogan
This is so dumb.
Look at that.
Boom!
jamie vernon
But if you make it out of there, you're safe.
And you get to win.
joe rogan
What do you win?
jamie vernon
There might be some money at the end.
I don't know.
brian redban
It's like doing Sober October.
joe rogan
For you and croissant.
You get a croissant.
Yeah, it's just like Sober October.
It's just stupid.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
With the best thing, I really believe the best thing about Sober October is it inspires people that actually do have a problem.
Burt Kreischer.
Inspires people to...
Burt Kreischer?
Here's a crazy thing that Burt Kreischer told me.
Because you know Ari Shaffir and him had a little bit of an incident with some MDMA. I don't know if you know about that.
Bert said that ever since taking that MDMA, he has zero desire to drink.
He said it really cleaned it out and that he heard that when you take ecstasy, that ecstasy kills your desire to drink.
That it does something to you that makes drinking seem really silly.
And he said he's super focused.
brian redban
It probably was actually, honestly, a really good thing for him if he hadn't done it in a while because there is positives for doing it.
I mean, circumstances were not the best.
joe rogan
The circumstances were the worst.
At home with his kids, Ari dosing them.
But he said that he feels amazing and that he really does feel focused and clear.
brian redban
That's great.
If Ari would have done it to me, I wouldn't have cared as much.
joe rogan
Yeah, but your body's like a fucking petri dish.
unidentified
I know.
brian redban
I was wondering, because I did his podcast the day before.
joe rogan
You wonder if he's going to dope you?
brian redban
I know.
I was wondering if he did, and then it was like, oh, that didn't work, because we ended up podcasting.
You were hoping.
joe rogan
Red man's sitting around hoping he's getting drugged.
brian redban
But it was a four-hour podcast, and I'm like, did I? Because we did smoke a lot of weed, but I'm like, did I? Maybe I was dope.
Nah.
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
Well, I remember I gave Chris McGuire some weed, and he was sure that it was laced with something.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, he was just like, this is not regular weed.
There's something in this.
He was, like, really paranoid that there was something in it, you know?
If you're not used to this California weed, and you don't smoke a lot, and then you're like, oh, all right, I'll have a couple.
Come on, guys!
You know, and you get peer pressured into it.
brian redban
Yeah.
Well, I had something the other day that fucked me up.
It was because they don't tell you, especially when you're at the comedy store and everyone's just passing joints and stuff.
This one person was one of those weed fanatics where he had put Keefe on it and whatever oil, THC oil, like it had like three things on it.
joe rogan
Those guys can fuck off.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those guys, they give you these joints and it looks golden when you open it up.
It's just got so much keef and all the oils and the hash oil.
That's ridiculous.
Why do you want to get that high?
What is wrong with them?
brian redban
Their tolerance, I guess.
You know, like, I can't...
I don't understand it, because I could take two hits with the shittiest joint and be like, you know what?
That was great.
I'm fine.
joe rogan
If you ever do Be Real Smokebox, be very careful.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
I've been asked to...
joe rogan
Please be careful.
Because you've got to drive home after that, and you don't even know where you are.
If it wasn't for navigation systems, I'd still be living in downtown LA. I would have never figured out how to get home.
brian redban
That's what the Tesla comes in for.
joe rogan
Let it drive for you.
Yeah.
It's like...
These guys just smoke all day, every day.
And to them, that's their baseline.
Like, their normal is just being super-duper high.
So they're used to it.
Like, we got so high before we even got into the car.
You know, and then you get into the car with the cameras in it.
And they do, like, this podcast.
And you're like, it's surreal.
It's like an out-of-body experience.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you feel really paranoid and really worked up.
Like, ugh.
brian redban
Yeah, no thanks.
I don't like that shit.
I don't like that.
Why even bother doing that?
No one likes that.
joe rogan
They do.
unidentified
How do you like that?
joe rogan
Obviously somebody likes that.
jamie vernon
How?
joe rogan
There's people that like that.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
They put the leaf blowers full of weed and just blow it on each other.
There's tons of videos of that going on.
Those high times conventions and cannabis cups.
joe rogan
They take a leaf blower and they pump a bong up.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
I mean, but this is like, these are the arguments for weed being illegal.
It's like, look at these idiots.
jamie vernon
It's also butt chugging.
joe rogan
Butt chugging.
brian redban
Butt chugging, so.
joe rogan
But the thing is like, it's weird.
It's like, we have this line of personal responsibility, right?
You can go to any bar, and they don't check to see if you've already been drinking.
They don't know what your tolerance is.
They don't know anything.
You get any bar, you give me two shots of Jack Daniels and Grey Goose on the rocks.
They just give it to you.
Bang!
Nobody cares.
They just think you can figure it out.
How much of a responsibility does a bartender actually have?
jamie vernon
A lot.
joe rogan
Do they?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
They can go to jail, too.
joe rogan
The bartender can.
brian redban
If they don't stop you.
jamie vernon
Depending on the state, I think, yeah.
joe rogan
That, to me, is so ridiculous.
I don't think the bar...
I think...
brian redban
If you get over served and they can prove it, you're just as responsible if he drives home drunk and kills somebody.
joe rogan
Well, if you know someone's going to drive, the problem is, I was talking about this on stage once, that the real problem with drunk driving is not that people can't drive when they're drunk.
The problem when you're drinking is you don't know...
If you can drive or not.
You don't know how drunk you are because you're drunk.
You might have three drinks and you might fail a drunk driving breathalyzer, but you might be able to drive perfectly.
But if you have four drinks or five drinks, you might think it's okay to have six or seven.
You don't know where you are.
You don't know where you are on the spectrum of drunk or not drunk when you're really drunk.
That's part of being drunk.
You don't know what the fuck's going on.
That's why the consent issue when you're really drunk is weird.
Some people like to get drunk and have sex, and then some people say, well, you should never have sex with someone when they're drunk because they can't consent because they're drunk.
Okay, but then that's like 90% of all people having sex.
How many people have sex while they're drunk?
brian redban
I only have sex when I'm drunk.
I have to be drunk.
I'm dealing with a bunch of stuff.
joe rogan
Deal with a bunch of stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I think autonomous cars, that's going to be very interesting, how they deal with alcohol in autonomous cars.
Because if you have a drunk mode, say if you have a Tesla in 2026, and it has the option to be completely autonomous, it drives on its own, or you can go manual.
So it detects that you're drunk.
It says, Mr. Redman, you are intoxicated.
We would like to drive.
And then you have to let it take you.
Do you think there's going to be a coming point in time where drunk driving doesn't apply because your car is going to drive you home?
brian redban
It makes the final decision for you.
I'm all for it.
joe rogan
It wouldn't be hard to have a breathalyzer on a car.
jamie vernon
They do that now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a friend who, he got arrested for a DUI, like more than one, and he had to blow into his thing on his work van.
He had to blow into his little thing before it would let him start the car.
jamie vernon
This is another demolition man coming full circle again, because there's that scene where he gets in and he makes the car, he's like, give me control.
And she's like, what the fuck are you doing?
You're gonna drive?
He's like, yeah, manual control, give me that shit, and he chases after it.
joe rogan
What year was Demolition Man supposed to be in?
jamie vernon
Now, I think.
I'll double check.
brian redban
I might need to watch that again.
They're doing that THC breathalyzer next year.
joe rogan
What are they going to find out?
brian redban
Supposedly it detects if there's THC, like if you have smoked in the last, whatever, three hours.
joe rogan
The problem with that is, there's, I don't, They've done studies that show that people drive well when they're high.
You know, they have done studies.
There's been these tests, and they're not, you know, it's not randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies, but they have done some studies when they show that people drive well high.
I know they have.
Look at me!
jamie vernon
2032 is when I take it.
joe rogan
2032 is not far away!
That's actually pretty close.
jamie vernon
He gets frozen for 36 years and wakes up in 2032. Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny?
What they used to think is going to be going on.
You know, like, yeah, in 2000, they'll just be able to freeze you.
brian redban
Wasn't that Back to the Future that was like 2017 or something like that?
Back to the Future 2?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
And then you look at it, you're like, that's...
joe rogan
Yeah, when they came back.
Yeah, the second one, Back to the Future 2. Yeah.
I don't know.
Nobody ever gets it right.
They get a couple things right, but everybody thinks we're going to be way more advanced than we are.
Remember Space 1999?
Do you remember that?
brian redban
1999?
What's that?
joe rogan
That was a TV show.
They thought that 1999, we were just going to be flying around in spaceships and living on the moon.
They're always wrong.
jamie vernon
What year was the Jetson supposed to be?
brian redban
Way off.
That's a good question.
joe rogan
That was like 1950. What year was that supposed to be?
Yeah, the Jetsons, they had flying cars.
But, see, the problem with three dimensions is you've got to keep people locked into grids.
Because that way, you can keep them from just going up or down or left or right randomly like birds and slamming into each other.
brian redban
That's probably how it's going to be, though.
It's probably going to be automated.
You can only do it with the Tesla driving.
joe rogan
Right, right.
If it goes flying, you mean?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Do you think they'll have that?
brian redban
Yeah, because they would have to stay in a grid.
There would have to be some kind of traffic to that grid.
People can't be flying all over, like you say, all over the place.
So they'll have to have lanes in the sky.
But by that time, we're probably not going to have any control of it.
It's probably all going to be...
joe rogan
Probably, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's why helicopters are so weird.
Because helicopters, if you get a pilot's flight...
When I went up with Burr, I was surprised at how much freedom you have.
We were flying around downtown LA. It was like, let's go here.
Take a left in the sky.
Go right.
Go down.
Go up.
Go around here.
We were really close to buildings.
And you'd be amazed at how many buildings in downtown LA have helicopter pads on the roof.
And so you land on the roof, you get out, you open a door, you go downstairs, you avoid all the bullshit.
Apparently that's the move in New York City.
Tommy Bunz was saying that, right?
jamie vernon
I think it's called, yeah.
joe rogan
That's what it's called?
brian redban
Uber has helicopter now.
In New York City.
Uber helicopter.
joe rogan
Can you imagine some chatty Uber driver that's flying a fucking helicopter and won't shut up?
jamie vernon
That's what Kobe Bryant did when he first got his first big contract.
I heard he moved down to Orange County and would just fly a helicopter every day to practice downtown.
joe rogan
Imagine flying a helicopter to a store.
jamie vernon
It'd be sick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you just go Super Bowl or Kevin Hart style, put a fucking helicopter pad on the roof of the store.
jamie vernon
I do one on the high, right?
No?
Oh no, they have a rooftop bar up there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, the next door?
When was the last time it was the Hyatt?
You weren't even living here.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it wasn't that long ago.
brian redban
Yeah, it's been a while.
jamie vernon
I stayed there when it was the Hyatt.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
But it might have been 10 years ago before I actually lived here.
brian redban
Yeah, that's probably what it was.
joe rogan
Yeah, it seems like it's been...
What was it when that dude jumped off of it?
brian redban
That was a long time.
joe rogan
That was way before our time.
Well, it was the 70s, I think, because it was during the strike when people didn't get paid.
To do comedy at the store.
And the guy who jumped off, they said he wasn't even good.
It's like one of those guys that's like, I'm going to fucking do this for everybody.
And everybody's like, hey man, you're not even really working.
You know what I mean?
There's always those guys.
That's one of the weird things about the store.
There's comics that are hanging around there that are all working.
And then there's a few people that will never work.
And you know they'll never work.
And they know they'll never work.
But they're kind of comics because they've done it a few times.
brian redban
Right.
They're more just there for the bar.
joe rogan
They're there for the hang.
brian redban
The hang.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it gets weird, right?
All of a sudden, they're in your conversation.
brian redban
Yeah, there's a lot of people like that.
But luckily, lately, there hasn't been as many, I don't think.
Because I think they've been kind of getting called out more by other comics.
joe rogan
Wow, this kid's weird.
Can you imagine if that was the case with other occupations?
CEOs of corporations would hang out with people who want to be CEOs, but they never really started a business, and they're all just hanging out together.
Yeah.
It's one of the weird things about art.
Anybody can create it and no one's to say that someone who sucks can't just figure it out.
There's nothing stopping you from figuring it out.
But something is.
Something keeps you from figuring it out, but you don't know what it is.
How many comics do you know that used to suck and that became good?
I know a few.
I know quite a few.
I know some of them.
Some of them who struggled early in the day and you're like, wow, I don't know about this guy.
I hope he makes it.
And then, look, Sebastian had a hard time.
Sebastian used to have a hard time.
Now he's one of the biggest comics on the planet Earth.
He's fucking huge.
My friend Mark Delegrate sent me a picture of Sebastian on stage.
At Boston Garden.
In the round.
18,000 people.
And I'm like, look at him!
Look at him!
I remember when he was first starting out.
He's like a great success story.
He really is.
Because he was a waiter at the Four Seasons.
He was waiting tables.
And also doing stand-up at night.
brian redban
You see him...
He makes me laugh.
joe rogan
He's fucking hilarious.
brian redban
You see him at the MTV Music Awards this year?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a mistake.
I could have told him that was a mistake before he did it, though.
brian redban
But it's still funny, like, he's coming out to, like, he's like, hey, these, you know...
I don't know.
That's like a bad hire.
It doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
Nobody wants to do it.
Who the fuck wants to do it?
Jesselnik's not going to do it.
Who the fuck's going to do it?
Who are you going to get to do it?
Jeff Ross?
Would he do it?
brian redban
Yeah, he'd definitely do it.
joe rogan
He'd probably do it.
I mean, you could probably get some comics to do it.
Jeff could probably pull it off.
That's like his kind of gig.
Fucking around, talking shit, writing jokes about it.
But Sebastian is like...
He's Sebastian.
That's his thing.
His thing is being Sebastian.
brian redban
Kind of old school, you know?
That's his joke.
Like, these phones!
You know, whatever.
joe rogan
But you don't want to see him host something.
You want to see him do an hour set.
You want to see him do his set.
You don't want to see him host some fucking malarkey award show.
A bunch of music that you know he doesn't listen to.
He's probably listening to The Temptations every night and shit.
You know?
Who does he listen to?
Probably goes to bed to Frank Sinatra.
brian redban
Springsteen, dude.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
I did it my way.
jamie vernon
On repeat.
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably plays it over and over again.
Yeah.
unidentified
The summer winds came blowing in.
brian redban
Did you see the Phil Hartman documentary?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
That was interesting.
I didn't know a lot of it.
You're in it a little bit.
I didn't know a lot of things.
One thing I didn't know is how they gave you a part in the show where it was supposed to be Phil's character writing you or something like that, like a will or something.
And they gave it to each person of the cast and they didn't let you read it beforehand.
So that when you were reading it in the show, it was actually your first time reading this letter that was supposed to be from Phil.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
And I didn't know that.
That was amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was one of the weirdest moments of my life.
You know getting phone calls that that he's dead the phone just kept ringing people just kept calling and friends and loved ones and family members and It was just it didn't seem real like who would kill that guy?
He was the nicest guy.
I wish you had met him He was so cool like fucking everybody liked that guy And he used to like to get high and go to strip clubs Yeah He used to like to get high and go to strip clubs, get high and ride around in his boat.
I went to a strip club with him.
brian redban
Do you remember which one?
joe rogan
I think it was Bob's Classy Lady.
I think that's what it was called.
I don't think it's around anymore.
But he had an appreciation for these young ladies that was like...
It was almost childlike.
But it wasn't creepy.
He was like, God, you're beautiful.
Because he was high.
He was like, you look amazing.
This is incredible.
He was having a good time.
He was a really, really unique character.
I remember there was a guy who was...
Some guy was blackmailing him.
And some guy had filmed him at a strip club with his wife.
And his wife was getting a lap dance.
And he was getting a lamp dance too.
And the guy was like, he wrote some really creepy letters saying that this was going to violate the policies.
Because, you know, Phil had had endorsements and commercial deals and he was doing movies and stuff like that.
He was just blowing up.
Got a Ferrari.
You know, he was blowing up.
And this guy had went to his house and nailed this VHS tape in an envelope to his garage door.
And I was with him on a phone call.
So Phil's like, I'm going to talk to him right now.
Come in my room.
So I went in his dressing room.
And the guy calls me and goes, Hey!
What's going on, buddy?
He was talking to the guy like the guy was his friend.
And they were setting the guy up.
And Phil was going to give him, I forget what the money was, tens of thousands of dollars.
Meet me at this place and I'll meet you there.
And he had these...
For lack of a better term, he had someone who's a dangerous person meet this guy and let him know in no uncertain terms that his life was going to take a terrible turn for the worst if he continued down this path.
But it was...
It was weird to see, like, someone trying to exploit him.
And the guy was so dumb, he actually met with Phil.
Like, Phil knew who the guy was.
Like, he saw his face, you know, he was there with the guy.
And the guy was like, look, you know, I just need some money.
And Phil's like, look, I get it, it's no big deal, you know?
It's just...
It's weird when you see someone trying to prey on...
They think that's their way out.
Like, this is my way out.
I'm just going to get this guy to give me some money, and I'm going to put it all together.
You get it, Phil.
I mean, I just need some money.
He's like, I get it, buddy.
No big deal.
He was just playing this guy along until the dangerous men came and talked to him.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
They also...
Really focused a lot on the wife, which I didn't really know much about, about how she wanted to be an actress also.
And like she was trying to get Phil to like put her into shows and do that, you know, stuff like that.
joe rogan
She was very resentful of him.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
She would insult him.
Like insult him publicly.
Like, uh, it was just really gross.
It was sad.
But he didn't think he should get divorced because he felt like it was bad for his image.
He was, like, really concerned about his image because he was, like, this squeaky clean family guy who was, you know, I mean, it was really starting to take off for him.
See, Phil didn't really make it until he was older in life.
Like, I don't think he got on Saturday Night Live until he was in his, like, late 30s.
Might have been older than that.
And when he was on news radio, I think he was, like, 46. Yeah.
Yeah, so he was like, he had worked as a graphic artist, you know, he, that, did you see that album cover that's out there, Pinned to the Wall?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's him.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He drew that.
brian redban
Yeah, he's drawn a few amazing things.
I was very surprised about that.
joe rogan
He's a super versatile guy.
He could do a lot of different things.
And his work ethic was amazing.
Like, he would have a binder.
And his scenes, he would have different color tabs for each scene.
And he would go over his notes and go over his lines.
Like, I'd never seen anybody do it before.
Like, none of us did.
None of the rest of us did.
Like, the only one who's like him, like, Stephen Root was even more different than him.
Because Stephen Root was a character.
Like, he played Jimmy James.
And he, in real life, is like the sweetest, most normal guy.
But when he was playing that character, like, he would become this Jimmy James guy.
And you'd be like, oh!
It was spooky.
Like, you've seen him in a million, like, what is the movie?
jamie vernon
Milton.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stapler.
Yeah.
What is that movie?
unidentified
Office Space.
joe rogan
Office Space.
brian redban
Let me blow the piece down.
joe rogan
He was great in that new western, too.
What is it?
The Ballad of Scruggs?
Buster Scruggs?
What is it called?
It's a Coen Brothers thing, right, isn't it?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's really weird.
Have you seen that?
brian redban
No, I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
It's very weird.
It's very weird.
It's really good.
But it's like, whoa, alright.
Just weird, you know?
But Stephen Root is in it.
It's amazing.
He's just a real actor, you know?
brian redban
He's amazing.
joe rogan
One of those dudes.
I would never do a sitcom again, ever.
But I'm so glad I did do it.
Like, I learned a lot.
And it was a great experience.
Did you see Andy Dick got arrested again?
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Even if you and Tommy weren't buddy cops, you wouldn't do that?
Going around shooting people with guns?
joe rogan
I'd do a sketch.
brian redban
Yeah, who cares about TV anymore, right?
I don't watch any TV shows, except for the South Parks and the cartoons and stuff.
But there's not a sitcom I give a fuck about, you know?
joe rogan
They don't really exist anymore.
jamie vernon
I caught up on Mexican Joker last night.
joe rogan
It's great, right?
jamie vernon
I was trying to catch up because I saw they have a new one tonight.
They got controversy with China for it.
brian redban
Those are the guys that still, to this day, I look forward to watching every week.
joe rogan
They go hard in the paint.
brian redban
Do you see the response that Trey did to China?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Jamie, did you see it?
So yeah, Trey did an official response to China and that's what...
joe rogan
Explain to everybody what happened.
brian redban
South Park had an episode that kind of made fun of the president of the NBA's response to China that was in the news recently.
It's about how Hollywood...
It edits their films.
Iron Man 3 has a whole 12-minute scene that they added just for the Chinese release.
They make things to make China happy so they can make more money because there's so many millions of people in China.
joe rogan
What did they add?
brian redban
It was a scene of an Asian doctor.
I think they were taking out the thing in his chest and saving his life or something like that.
joe rogan
So they added a Chinese doctor?
brian redban
Yeah, they added Asians to it.
And I think they cut – Really?
This happens a lot in Hollywood, I guess.
They edit for a Chinese version where they even add stuff to it and make it more Chinese happy.
So Trey Parker and Matt Stone made this whole episode about that.
And of course, they got banned from China.
China scrubbed the whole internet free of everything.
joe rogan
Official apology to China from Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
Like the NBA, we welcome the Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts.
We too love money more than freedom and democracy.
How do you say XI? Xi, I think.
Xi?
Doesn't look just like Winnie the Pooh at all.
Tune into our 300th episode this Wednesday at 10. Long live the great Communist Party of China.
May this autumn's sorghum harvest be bountiful.
We good now, China?
Oh my god, he's the best.
He's the best.
brian redban
They are the best.
joe rogan
They are the best.
brian redban
I love them.
joe rogan
They're the best.
We too love money.
Say that?
Put the exact quote again.
What does it say?
We too love money more than freedom and democracy.
brian redban
I like how he said also, G doesn't look just like Winnie the Pooh at all.
I'm just adding that just.
joe rogan
300th episode.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
We welcome the Chinese censors into our homes and into our hearts.
Like the NBA. Well, the NBA thing is a weird one, right?
Like the guy, he's like super social justice warrior-y.
He's always criticizing this and that when it came to China.
He's like, everything's really good over there.
jamie vernon
Oh, the commissioner of the NBA? Yeah, what did he say?
I don't know what he said necessarily.
joe rogan
He definitely soft-pedaled.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's flowing over there now to have a meeting about it.
brian redban
Yeah, and there's a chance even that I heard that he could even get fired from this.
Because that's how much money that NBA as a company is going to be losing from China.
joe rogan
Now, what is the big deal about China?
They just like basketball?
Or is it just a giant market?
brian redban
Just so many people.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they've got them hook-lined on basketball since Yao Ming back 15 years ago got in there.
joe rogan
What about Lin Sanity?
Is that still going on?
jamie vernon
He signed to play over there this year, actually.
joe rogan
What happened with him?
He took off.
He was kicking ass for a very short period of time.
jamie vernon
He had a very good NBA career.
He just won an NBA title with the Toronto Raptors.
joe rogan
But how can people stop talking about him?
jamie vernon
It was a hype train that happened, and he had a very good run of like 10-12 games.
Part of it was he was in New York with the New York media train, the Knicks.
They weren't very good.
They're still not very good now, but it all got wrapped up in all that kind of.
And then he got sent off to another team, and once you're in a small market, everyone kind of forgets about you.
joe rogan
The whole China thing is very strange, man.
We got hit up by someone from Huawei who wants to come on the podcast.
Yeah.
I'm like, no thanks.
I'm good.
brian redban
Oh, the phones?
jamie vernon
Drop some phones off for us?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Drop some phones off.
jamie vernon
Jesus.
joe rogan
Listen to everything you do.
Follow you home.
brian redban
That shit's really interesting.
joe rogan
That'd be like one of those phones you leave at work and you wake up in the morning and sit on your sink.
brian redban
Hey.
joe rogan
Fuck.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
What's going on here?
Hey, man.
That'd be like a Black Mirror episode.
Those Huawei phones are fucking badass, though.
That's the thing.
brian redban
They're not as good as this shit.
joe rogan
No.
Here's the deal, okay?
I gave a thorough examination.
I went from the iPhone XS Max, whatever the fuck the last one was, and then I got a Note 10. And then I got the new one, the iPhone 11 X Max Pro, fuck your mother, whatever it is.
The Note can't fuck with it at all.
The Note's just not as good.
brian redban
It's clumsy.
joe rogan
They're not as good.
They're clunky.
Their keyboard sucks.
brian redban
Worst keyboard ever made.
I don't understand why people don't bitch about that more.
You could add those other keyboards, but they're all...
They're a little bit better, but Apple just got the keyboard down.
unidentified
Down.
joe rogan
Down.
It's like you don't realize how much better Apple's keyboards are until you try, and this is only on their phones.
Their laptops are dog shit.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Their laptops' keyboards are so bad, I got a 15-inch one.
There's companies that take the old ones, the old 15-inch ones from like 2012, and they put a SSD card in it, or they put a solid-state hard drive in it and update the processor and update the graphics.
They update everything.
And they give you like one terabyte of storage.
But they basically put all modern internal components into the old shell.
So you get the real keyboard.
A keyboard that you can actually feel the keys.
You actually feel where they are.
And you feel them moving around.
The new keys, those flat fucking keys, are just so bad.
brian redban
You're going to hate the future of MacBook Pros.
So you might as well just switch over right now.
Because it definitely is going to become a screen on the bottom as a keyboard.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah, they're definitely going to use...
Whatever feedback.
joe rogan
Taptic feedback?
brian redban
Yeah, so it feels like you're tapping on the screen, but you're actually just going to have a whole screen in the box.
jamie vernon
They pulled that pressure sensitive off the new iPhones.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
So it's just long press now.
unidentified
I hate that.
jamie vernon
It's not pressing because no one used it.
joe rogan
Yeah, nobody used it.
brian redban
I used it.
I'm one of the few people, because there's one thing that they haven't replaced yet.
Like, a lot of the other things you hold down, it does what it used to do.
But I don't know if a lot of people didn't even know about it, but when you're on the keyboard and you just, like, hold your thumb down, you used to be able to use it as, like, a mouse, like a cursor.
So if you're trying to, you know, be accurate...
joe rogan
But you can still do that with the space bar.
jamie vernon
You can still do it, not just the keyboard.
joe rogan
You hold the space bar down.
brian redban
Okay, never mind.
jamie vernon
Or just the thing.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the space bar.
People don't know.
Explain that because it's pretty dope.
The space bar, when you hold the space bar down, you can move that cursor around anywhere you want.
jamie vernon
It's really nice.
brian redban
Yeah, when you're typing or anything like that, it's like having a mouse in a thing.
Thanks, man.
I was so bummed about that.
That was really pissing me off.
joe rogan
Well, they do a lot of things that you don't know what they do.
A lot of people don't know how to make a screenshot or how to do screen record.
There's a lot of things that people don't know how to do.
I mean, it's a really complicated device, and most people use like three-tenths of what it's capable of.
But they're so much better than Android phones right now.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe Huawei has a better keyboard.
But the Samsung keyboard, in comparison to Apple, there's no competition.
There's so much...
They're so less accurate.
And their prediction of what you're going to say next is so bad.
It just doesn't work good.
brian redban
The Note's camera was very good.
The Note 10, I like the camera a lot.
I like the focus video.
You can pretty much do the portrait mode, but in video mode, which you can't do on the iPhone, which sucks.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's better.
That's one thing that the Note does better.
That pen, I never use that thing.
brian redban
Yeah, me neither.
joe rogan
It's cute.
I like having it around.
I like showing people, look, you can take a picture with it.
You press the button.
It works like a remote control.
Never used it once.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Did you see the new Essential phone that got leaked yesterday?
brian redban
No, I like this.
I think I've talked about this before, how I wouldn't mind a thinner, skinner, longer phone.
joe rogan
Skinner?
jamie vernon
This is just leaked, so we don't know.
brian redban
Slept walked.
joe rogan
What is that?
It looks like a remote control.
That's the phone?
jamie vernon
It's a central phone 2. Can you show the video of it?
brian redban
Because there's a video of it that's really cool when he's like scrolling through the...
He's scrolling through the operating system, one of the videos.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's a new Android operating system they have put on the phone.
I don't know if it's going to have things removed from it.
joe rogan
So is it their own thing?
jamie vernon
I think it's proprietary for them.
brian redban
Is that a camera?
jamie vernon
Yeah, the back is a camera.
brian redban
That's a huge fucking camera.
That's going to be one of the best cameras ever.
joe rogan
Well, it's a really small phone.
So if that iPhone camera was on something so thin, that would look huge too.
It's a very thin thing.
It seems like it's almost half the size, width-wise, of your iPhone.
Why would you want that?
I don't get that.
jamie vernon
Different.
Options are good.
brian redban
Hand cramping.
joe rogan
Hand cramping.
brian redban
How wide the phone is.
I'm constantly trying to lean over.
joe rogan
That's so weird.
jamie vernon
An Apple TV remote size looks like.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's exactly what it looks like.
brian redban
I like that.
joe rogan
Do you?
brian redban
I really do.
joe rogan
Well, I'll tell you what, though.
Who had...
Was it Dan Aykroyd?
Who had the old iPhone in here the other day?
Oh, Commander Fravor.
David Fravor had an iPhone 4 with the flat sides.
brian redban
The metal.
joe rogan
Yeah, the metal sides.
It's so small.
He was showing me pictures on it.
I was squinting to see the picture.
They're so little.
But it's so tiny.
It just fits in your hand.
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I like.
Because my hand's sore.
It hurts.
I bet it's...
At night, it feels like I've been typing all day, you know, or stretching it out.
joe rogan
Is it really that big of a deal?
brian redban
My hands are way smaller than yours, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you just got a smaller iPhone, just get the small one.
unidentified
I could barely reach over halfway.
joe rogan
It's pretty big.
But when you're watching YouTube videos, it's the shit.
I'll tell you what, that is one thing that, yeah, I have a hard time getting all the way over there, too.
jamie vernon
You guys have the max, right?
The big one?
brian redban
Yeah.
Yes.
My girlfriend has the smaller one.
jamie vernon
Yeah, the smaller one.
brian redban
I like that better.
My girlfriend has that size.
joe rogan
That might be the move.
brian redban
Because it used to be a bigger deal.
There was a camera stabilization for going to the smaller to the bigger one.
joe rogan
Do we have any pop sockets here?
We have the Jerry Popsockets.
Give me one of them things.
jamie vernon
Nikki Glaser stole it.
joe rogan
Did she?
jamie vernon
Well, I gave it to her.
I thought there were more of them around.
joe rogan
Well, then that's not stealing, Jamie.
Sorry, Nikki.
jamie vernon
She took it with some weed.
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
We gave her about five pounds of weed.
I hope she didn't try to fly back with that.
Imagine if she got arrested.
brian redban
She has a new special, right?
joe rogan
Yes, it's out right now.
It's hilarious.
jamie vernon
That's why I let her take it.
joe rogan
That lady's fucking funny.
brian redban
She's great.
joe rogan
She's very funny.
But Popsockets, my point was, if you have a Popsocket, it's way easier.
You could text like a motherfucker with a Popsocket.
Just slide that bitch right in there like that.
Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
brian redban
My new favorite thing, Joe, is Apple Watch now allows you to record voice memos on your watch.
So when you're doing stand-up, it's right there.
So it's a perfect recording because it's right next to your mouth.
One thing, though, is to turn your phone on airplane mode before you do it.
Because then it sometimes switches to the phone mic.
So what I do is I put them both on airplane mode.
So then I have audience and...
and then voice right next to it so if i wanted to mix it i would have almost a perfect sounding stage recording so it's two separate recordings in the same show yeah so if you keep your phone on your on the stool you're recording the audience and then you have your voice right next to you have to sync them up yeah you just whatever garage okay wow that actually sounds badass yeah that actually makes sense like a real reason to have an iphone watch Yeah.
I like it.
Also, you can monitor your sleep now.
You wear it, or I guess it's coming soon, but you could wear it and tell us how many times you wake up and it tells your heart rates and stuff like that.
joe rogan
I already have that with this thing.
I have this whoop strap.
This thing is amazing.
This thing, it doesn't just measure that.
It measures heart rate variability.
It measures...
All the disturbances, how much REM sleep you had, how deep your sleep was.
It also measures, because of heart rate variability, it measures how much you've recovered from your workout.
It measures how many calories you burned.
I mean, the application that comes with it, this WHOOP application, is fucking incredible.
I mean, it takes a long time to learn all this shit, but there's so much data that you get off of these things.
And it gives you these little things to fill out, little questionnaires that let you know, like, here, my recovery today is only 16%.
But I just got done running, though.
brian redban
Oh, so it's not a watch at all.
It's just a strap.
joe rogan
No, it's just a strap.
brian redban
Oh, I like that.
joe rogan
It doesn't tell you the time at all.
It has no readout on it, nothing.
You just keep it on you.
brian redban
Oh, that's badass.
Because it looks cool, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it measures all your shit.
It measures your recovery, your strain.
It's got a sleep coach.
And so here with Sober October, we're all wearing them.
So we all get to see...
brian redban
Oh, that's badass.
joe rogan
Today Burt burnt the most, well, how was he number one when he burnt 1,700 calories and I burnt 1,800?
jamie vernon
Is it alphabetical order?
joe rogan
No, no.
It says 12 point, his day strain is 12.2, mine's 12.1, even though my activity was harder than his.
jamie vernon
Oh, look at this.
It's on the internet.
They have a website, SoberOctober.com.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can track it and watch it.
unidentified
No shit!
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm a big fan of this strap.
This thing is really, really effective.
It's pretty fucking amazing.
brian redban
Maybe Ari's wearing Burt's strap for him because he felt bad.
joe rogan
No.
Burt's not even talking to Ari.
They're not talking right now.
jamie vernon
Oh, that's just for recovery.
It depends on what you're looking at, I guess.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of different metrics that you can read.
unidentified
Oh, sleep.
joe rogan
Look, so you can read your strain, your recovery.
You can read your performance, like how many calories you're burning, how much you've recovered, how efficient your body is.
It just lets you know where you stand physically.
It also lets you know whether or not you should push it or whether or not you should slack off.
brian redban
Look, worse sleep.
joe rogan
Look at all that shit, man.
It's incredible.
brian redban
Worse sleep, Bert.
joe rogan
Oh, of course.
He's haunted by Ari.
The memories of Ari drugging him, keeping him awake at night.
unidentified
Fucking Ari!
jamie vernon
I was going to tell you, on the iPhone, something I didn't notice that you were getting close to was that they added in the Health app your headphone audio levels.
So it tracks how loud you're listening to stuff over time.
And it tells you when you're in a good or bad audio listening range.
Like if you're listening to shit too loud, you're starting to damage your hearing.
So this then gets into the Apple Watch.
If you turn it on on your watch, it listens to the ambient sound.
So if you're in an environment like in a city where it's too loud, It adds that into your audio health.
brian redban
It gives you warnings also.
Because one thing I've been doing lately at the comedy store, you know the back, back, back place where you smoke the weed?
You can download an audio meter that tells you how loud it is.
And so I downloaded it a long time ago.
It is so bad back there when there's a lot of people back there that it's like, emergency, get out of that area.
It's bad for your eyes.
Or ears.
joe rogan
It's like a bar.
brian redban
Yeah, I know, but it's way higher.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, you've got a bunch of comics back there.
brian redban
And it echoes off the...
joe rogan
Oh, that's true too, right?
The concrete and everything?
jamie vernon
I would say though...
Allowing them to listen to all these microphones, you're just giving them access to listen to you everywhere now.
joe rogan
What are they going to listen to?
Shit?
jamie vernon
Fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're plotting against the government, Jamie?
brian redban
What are you worried about?
jamie vernon
There's an article that went around recently about this stuff called a mesh network that's created with some of these cameras on people's doors.
There's a test that happened in the LA basin.
700 cameras gave them access to almost the entire LA area.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Because of the way that they link to each other.
And there's, like, some, like, watchdog people are saying that, like, even if you're smart enough to, like, not do this, the person next to you might not be, or your neighbor might not be, they might have it on, and just because your proximity is close enough, your iPhone knows that your iPhone's next to it.
And it just goes, oh yeah, you were here, Joe was there.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't, it's gonna be really hard to pull shit off in the future.
And it seems like with all these Nest phones and Ring phones, or, you know, not Ring phones, Ring cameras and Net cameras, Nest cameras that people have on their front doors, After a while, everywhere you go, you're going to be filmed.
jamie vernon
They passed a law, I think, today that the California body cameras that cops use can't be used for facial recognition.
The ACLU got a law passed through that said that won't be able to happen or something like that.
brian redban
Too bad, but we would have caught a lot more people.
joe rogan
That seems weird because that seems like when you would want to use it.
It's when you're a cop looking for bad guys.
It's like...
jamie vernon
Yeah, but I think what's happening right now that I've been reading is third-party companies are getting access to that stuff, and they can buy it.
And that's where some of the discrepancies, because it's just happening too fast.
There aren't laws in place to stop some of these things from happening.
I just think there's lots of gray area that people can maneuver in.
joe rogan
It seems to be just a matter of time before you have surveillance everywhere.
Everywhere you go.
Everywhere.
Everything is available to everyone.
Except inside your house.
Like, people are going to tinfoil up the inside of their bedrooms just to try to keep people out.
And then you have the fucking television that probably has a webcam on it.
You know?
People are probably watching you fuck, Jamie.
jamie vernon
They do watch, they listen to the, some TVs have that stuff on to listen to what's going on in your house and what your, they cross-references, audio signals.
brian redban
Alexa is serious, all of that is.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're listening to everything.
I mean, even contractors who work for Alexa and Apple Pods and all that shit.
Or, I think Apple's one of the ones...
Is that Apple as well?
Because Apple's pretty damn strict on privacy, which is kind of interesting.
It's one of the reasons why Apple Maps is not very good.
Because they don't collect data on everybody the way Google does.
The benefit of the Google data collection is you get really detailed analytics on everything.
And so they know exactly what's going on.
That's why something like Waze works so well.
Because there's so many different people giving up information.
I mean, it shows you where the slowdowns are and where the cops are.
There's benefits to it.
It's super effective.
But the drawbacks are you're going down this weird road where these companies are selling your information.
That's what Google is.
Is a company that provides you data, they provide you information, but they're also selling your data.
They're constantly selling what you're interested in.
Like, if you ever went, like, say, like you're interested in a watch.
Like, I want to get a new watch.
Let me look at watches.
Every fucking time you go to any website now, those Google ads will be a watch.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
It's like they're just tempting you.
Come on, Jamie.
jamie vernon
I was listening to a podcast about the beginning of the history of the internet.
It's called Mintcast.
This was a couple months ago.
But he was talking about how when ARPANET was starting up in the 60s, there were a lot of protests about just even turning it on because people knew that it was going to be a surveillance system, sort of like what is happening now.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Even back then?
jamie vernon
It doesn't work if people aren't using it, kind of.
It needs to spread and grow, and that personal computing is sort of tied in and came along the perfect time for this to grow more, and phones is even the next evolution of it.
joe rogan
Now, but doesn't it make life better?
I mean, there's pros and cons, right?
And the cons we're all terrified of.
But isn't it amazing that you could just Google things?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you know, like, I said something the other day that I thought was a line in a movie.
I was like, is that a line in a movie?
And my wife is just Googling it.
And she's like, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Like, how crazy is that?
You can just find out.
Like, in a movie.
Like, how many goddamn movies are there?
You just type in something in quotes, and it'll say, oh, that was from The Shining.
And then, bam.
jamie vernon
The lyrics for every song are on the internet.
joe rogan
Every song.
Every song.
It's just the pros...
I think, at least right now, outweigh the cons.
It's just we all wonder where it's going.
That's what's scary.
What's scary is the unknown.
You know, what's scary is this unknown surveillance state aspect of it all.
It's better, though.
jamie vernon
There are benefits.
I've bought some of the ads I've gotten shit for.
I do it all the time.
joe rogan
Well, John Carmack had an interesting take on that.
Carmack is the guy who created Quake and Doom and all those games, and he was talking about Oculus, and we were talking about technology and people being addicted to their phones.
He's like, yes, but it makes your life better.
His take on it was, but people's lives are improved because of this technology.
Yes, people do get addicted to being on the screens, but one of the reasons why is because it seems better to them than not being on the screens.
There's benefits.
It's making their life more enjoyable.
I'm like, okay, but you're...
I see how you're looking at it that way.
But that's, you know, convenient when you're in technology to look at it that way.
But the people that look at it, like, in terms of, like, human beings and our connection with each other, like, how much of it is getting eroded?
Because so much...
I mean, how many times do you and I, unless we see each other at the store, how many times do we talk on the phone?
Like, I called you up the other day.
I'm like, hey, what's up?
How you doing?
brian redban
I was like the first phone call of 2019. Yeah.
joe rogan
I've been doing that to people.
I called Santino yesterday.
I'm like, I just want to talk on the phone, man.
Can we talk on the phone?
I think it's good to talk on the phone.
I don't think people talk on the phone enough.
brian redban
I definitely don't.
joe rogan
We're lucky too in that our job, we go out at night and we see each other.
We all see our friends.
We talk.
There's a lot of folks who don't do that.
They see each other at work during the day and then at nighttime they're sitting at home watching TV or staring at their phone and their interaction is severely limited.
Our business is a social business.
We're always out.
We're always out and about and talking to people and interacting with people.
But I think some folks today, because of this technology, they're socially a bit stunted.
And that's what I worry about.
brian redban
Yeah, I see it.
100%.
I mean, it's weird that how it's...
When texting came out, everyone's like, who's texting?
And that's kind of taken over from more people.
I know a lot of people that don't...
Answer the phone anymore.
And email addresses.
I think that's kind of on the way out.
Who emails anymore?
Unless it's like work or something like that.
I mostly text or I mostly message each other.
joe rogan
I saw some girl complaining about people FaceTiming her.
And she was like, did you FaceTime me for no reason?
She goes, that's like just knocking on my door without telling me you're coming over.
Don't just FaceTime me.
She was angry.
Don't be FaceTiming me.
People FaceTime people now, though.
That's a thing.
Like, Chappelle's FaceTiming.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he FaceTimes.
brian redban
That's the new talking with the phone open on speakerphone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Killer Mike FaceTimes.
He FaceTimed me while I was taking a shit.
brian redban
Did you answer?
joe rogan
Yes.
I was watching Santino Live.
unidentified
He's a man.
joe rogan
I'm a man.
jamie vernon
Santino was live on his Instagram and I popped in and he tried to make me join him.
I just woke up and I was very haggard and it was dark.
I was like, no, I'm not joining your shit.
My eyes aren't even open.
I can't do this.
joe rogan
Don't be scared, Jamie.
Don't be scared of your looks.
You're a wonderful looking man.
Do you know how many ugly people would be happy to look like you?
jamie vernon
No, thank you.
brian redban
Yeah, I think you and Joey and my parents are the only ones that I answer phone or FaceTime.
joe rogan
I'm calling people every day now.
I call a lot of people.
I always call my wife.
I hardly ever text her.
But I'm trying to call more people.
I think it's a move that's a healthy move.
You get a real conversation, a little back and forth, a little laughter, you know, joke around with each other.
Texting is just so fucking impersonal, so bland, open to interpretation.
jamie vernon
Do you use the voice memo thing that the text messages allows you to use?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
You know who does that, man?
Alex Jones.
He'll send me these long...
Joe Rogan, what's going on right now with the deep state?
What they're trying to do with Trump?
He'll send me these long fucking voicemail messages that come in a text message.
You know, voice memos.
And they go away, too.
They go away after a few days.
brian redban
I save them every time.
jamie vernon
Self-destruct.
brian redban
They have a save button.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People are into those, though.
Those little voice memos.
I don't know why.
jamie vernon
Get to hear the voice.
unidentified
I guess.
jamie vernon
No back and forth.
joe rogan
That's true.
But my voicemail is always full, so that's a sneaky workaround.
I keep my voicemail full.
Get out of here with that thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
No spoiler alert, but screening phone calls over answering machines popped up in that movie, and that was like a thing that I kind of forgot you used to be able to do.
You'd be like, hey, no, no, no, I'm here.
joe rogan
Yeah, you would let it go to, hey, what's up, Joe?
Not here right now.
Leave a message.
You'd probably say something cool.
You'd have some cool music, like some white snakes playing in the background.
brian redban
I get so many scam calls every day now that I spend most of my time just going through my missed call list and then Googling the phone number to see if it's a scam call or not.
joe rogan
Is there a way to block that?
Isn't there a robocall blocker?
jamie vernon
Well, the new iPhone thing lets you block numbers that you don't have saved so it goes straight to voicemail.
brian redban
That's key.
Because if you don't have it saved, then you'll just check the voicemail later or see that they called.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't check any voicemails.
brian redban
All my shit's off, though.
I have it on silent mode, do not disturb, everything.
I have to just make sure I check it every 15 minutes or so.
joe rogan
Well, for me, I'm glad I got the note because I wanted to know what the dark side was like.
I watch a lot of tech videos on phones and stuff like that, and I was like, well, maybe Android has caught up.
Maybe it is better.
It's not.
It's still clunky.
brian redban
It's a fucking keyboard.
joe rogan
It's good for watching YouTube.
It's good for Googling stuff.
It's good for Google Maps.
It's really good for Google Maps.
Google Maps on Android is native to Android, so it's actually slightly better than it is for iPhone.
But that's it.
jamie vernon
They've got to have a...
When you connect it to your car, there's like an Android thing?
joe rogan
Android Play, Auto, yeah.
jamie vernon
Yeah, something like that.
joe rogan
It's okay, but a lot of car manufacturers don't even fuck with it.
BMW doesn't even fuck with it.
They use Apple CarPlay, and if you have an Android, you can go fuck yourself.
They don't care.
brian redban
My Honda has both, which I thought was cool.
It has the Apple Play and the Android Play.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of the aftermarket ones have both.
I've never tried Android Auto.
brian redban
That's one bad thing about Tesla, though, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
I mean, he needs to do something because there's no messaging app on the Tesla.
joe rogan
But I think that's better.
That way you don't fuck with it while you're driving.
brian redban
Yeah, but it's nice just to be at least like, hey, you got a text message.
You know, or any...
It doesn't have anything.
unidentified
I guess.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I just...
I think it's something...
There's something good about not fucking with that at all while you're driving.
You know, if you can look at your phone if you want to, it's still there.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that big-ass, beautiful screen, it's worth it.
brian redban
I like it, though, when, you know, in Honda, you just hit a button and it just reads your text to you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, like auto.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, Apple CarPlay.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that does that.
I have that on my Toyota.
See, the thing about Tesla is, though, their navigation system is so superior.
What I love about it is it works like a phone, because it's all connected to the internet, so you can say to it, hey, navigate to Tom's Barbecue, and it'll just...
Bang!
And it'll just take you to Tom's Barbecue.
And it says, like, would you like to go on autopilot?
Like, fuck yeah, I would.
You press autopilot.
Would you like us to change lanes?
Fuck yeah, change lanes, bitch.
It'll change lanes for you.
I mean, it's so superior in, like, its application.
Like, the way it, first of all, the screen is enormous.
So you're looking at the entire grid of the city, basically, and you see where you're going a mile away.
Sometimes you're looking at a little screen on a phone, and you're like, is this next or is it the next block?
Is it this one or the next one?
With a Tesla, there's no confusion.
And you get on the front screen on your dashboard, you see a part of what's coming up next.
brian redban
The zoom, it's the closest part.
Like, oh, there's the left right there.
joe rogan
Dude, it's so good.
brian redban
It's so good.
joe rogan
And then driving it.
Other cars feel stupid, don't they?
brian redban
Yeah.
I tried to drive my Civic the other day and it sucks.
This used to be the coolest car to drive, like fun, and now it just seems so dumb.
joe rogan
They're dumb.
They're dumb.
brian redban
He's got me.
I am Tesla for life because of this.
joe rogan
I don't know enough about all these analysts that are predicting that Tesla's going to be doomed.
Like some guy said that Tesla's going to lose 80% of its stock or go away, like some financial analyst.
brian redban
They've been saying that forever.
joe rogan
What are they basing that on?
jamie vernon
I've read that stuff too.
They have competitors that don't want them to do good.
joe rogan
You think that's what it is?
jamie vernon
It could be.
I don't know.
They're doing very good.
brian redban
They're talking about the new Porsche.
I don't know if you saw that.
It's dope.
Yeah, they're dope.
But guess what?
Try to charge it.
Try to go across the country with that thing.
They don't have the supercharger network that Tesla has, and that's everywhere.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't they have the same interface?
The Tesla doesn't know that you have a Tesla, right?
It just knows it's electric, and it goes into the socket.
jamie vernon
Like the charging port thing?
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
I don't know how that works.
I think that's a...
joe rogan
Well, the one at the airport is just electric.
You ever use the one at the airport?
unidentified
Yeah, it's slow.
joe rogan
You've got to put on the little adapter.
But who cares?
When you're going to the airport, you leave your car parked, and you plug it in, you come back, it's fully charged.
brian redban
Wait, there's one in the middle?
LAX? Oh, yeah!
Oh, LAX? They don't know much.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
Are they open?
Like, a lot of them open?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
That's a game changer.
joe rogan
Well, it's hard to get them sometimes because a lot of people have electric cars now, but I got one the other day.
I was at the airport the other day.
jamie vernon
Everyone got mad that you have to pick up your taxis and Ubers now, like in a satellite lot or take a shuttle over there?
unidentified
Dude, that sucks.
joe rogan
Well...
They need that for the goddamn comedy store.
Those dorks always park right in front of the driveway.
You can't get in or out, and it's a nightmare.
brian redban
Yeah, it's out of control.
joe rogan
And they get mad at you.
Like, you're not supposed to be here, stupid.
brian redban
Yeah, it's out of control.
unidentified
Assholes.
joe rogan
But, look, at least less people are drunk driving.
jamie vernon
The congestion...
To fix anything there is a great idea.
So I don't know like what you complain about them doing anything.
At least they're trying.
brian redban
Less traffic definitely is great.
It just sucks.
joe rogan
You mean at LAX? Yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
It's just the worst.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
Well, I came home from Italy with my family at 11 o'clock at night and it was bumper to bumper.
brian redban
It's the worst at night.
joe rogan
It was so bad.
I couldn't believe how many people were at LAX. It's so bad.
And then you go to like Salt Lake City and it's just smooth sailing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you go to a smaller town, airport.
Salt Lake City is a goddamn hidden gem, kids.
5 o'clock at night.
5 o'clock p.m.
Tuesday night.
Nobody's on the road.
It's just smooth sailing.
They don't have traffic.
Their traffic is non-existent.
The Mormons scare everyone away.
Like, it's beautiful.
The weather's gorgeous.
They're surrounded by mountains.
But everyone's like, ah, these Mormons.
And they get scared off.
And they don't move there.
brian redban
Yeah, I think Salt Lake's great.
I mean, the only bad thing is the snow, right?
joe rogan
Whatever.
Did you fart?
No, that was my lips.
You get a four-wheel drive.
Just get a truck, you know, and fucking, you know, stay home when it snows.
brian redban
When Tesla releases their truck...
joe rogan
They are coming out soon.
I sent Elon a picture of a truck, and I said, hey man, this looks fucking dope.
He's like, that's not really our truck.
unidentified
Our truck is more...
joe rogan
He said, what was his words?
It's more Blade Runner-esque.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what he said.
brian redban
It's more than that picture?
The picture that I think you're talking about, the black one, that's already pretty Blade Runner-y.
But that, I could tell, is fake.
Because if he's going to make a truck, he has to have more of a bed space in the back, right?
joe rogan
I think he's trying to make something...
Yeah, that's fake.
But that looks fucking dope, man!
brian redban
That looks pretty Tron, too.
I like the lights.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it looks amazing.
But I think whatever he's doing is going to look even doper than that.
But no one has seen it.
He's somehow or another been able to keep it under wraps.
brian redban
How many people have trucks in the United States?
That's going to be a game changer.
I'm surprised that he hasn't released it yet.
joe rogan
And it's American.
That's an American product.
It's a weird thing.
unidentified
People are like, yeah, I like fucking engines and Ford and Chevy.
joe rogan
They think that's American.
Well, guess what else is American?
Tesla.
That's an American invention.
It's American.
And it's good for the environment.
Don't you love the outdoors?
Yes, you do.
Good.
Get a fucking electric car.
Drive around in that.
brian redban
Yeah, it's the best part.
joe rogan
It's going to be interesting to see what it looks like.
brian redban
Have you got solar at your house yet?
Have you ever tried to fuck with the Tesla solar?
joe rogan
We were going to get the Tesla roof panels, but our roof has the wrong pitch.
For whatever that means.
brian redban
Oh, direction?
joe rogan
Yeah, so we have another setup.
Another solar panel.
brian redban
Oh, badass.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But the...
I think solar is in California.
It's a silly thing to not have.
It's like you can get all your power from the sky.
brian redban
It should be the law.
Every house has to have...
joe rogan
Well, I think it's a matter of time.
Tesla has these solar panels that act as tiles.
They look like roof tiles.
They look really good.
They look like real nice roof tiles.
But I think they didn't have that 10 years ago.
And 10 years from now, they'll probably have something even more efficient.
The real problem is battery capacity.
Battery capacity is the thing that holds back these electric cars.
And they think they're going to be able to fix that, too.
And they think with new battery technology, you're going to be able to get more mileage and you'll be able to charge far quicker.
That's going to be the real game changer.
There's a lot of people that like Brendan.
Brendan Schaub, he's resisting the Tesla.
I drive him around.
He's like, you're driving that again?
He gets mad.
Because he's like, why don't you drive one of your muscle cars?
I'm like, I love those.
But I love this.
You've got to drive this, man.
He's like, I'm not driving.
brian redban
It's too quiet.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
When you drive it once, you're like, holy fuck.
When you realize how fast they are, it's like time travels.
It just goes...
It just cuts the distance between spaces in a way that no other car can do.
I've never seen another car that...
And it does that without being obnoxious.
Like it doesn't go...
It doesn't make some crazy loud noise.
It just goes.
Whoosh!
brian redban
Elon should definitely have an update where it makes your car's speakers match with your acceleration so you feel like you're inside a rumbling car while you're driving down.
joe rogan
They have that with some cars, but people get mad at it.
Apparently, the new Corvette pipes fake sound into the car.
Right.
When they make cars that are turbocharged, when you have forced induction with turbocharged, these turbos, they make the engine sound shitty.
Like a naturally aspirated engine is the loudest, most rumbly kind of an engine.
And when you have turbocharges, it mutes the sound of the engine.
I don't know why.
I guess it's because of all the forced air.
They don't sound as good.
So what they've been doing is they've been forcing fake sound.
BMW does that.
When you're driving the car and you hear the cool acceleration sound, it's kind of fake.
It's coming in through your speakers, which is really weird.
brian redban
They're about to release a fart horn also on the test list.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard about that.
brian redban
That's a great idea.
jamie vernon
I saw this video today and you started mentioning something that triggered it.
Have you seen this yet?
joe rogan
It says solar, a game changer for technology developed in San Antonio to pull water from humid air.
jamie vernon
So this guy, Moses West, he was retired and it took him four years.
He developed this machine called AWG. I'm trying to find out what that stands for, but it's a big machine that literally makes drinking water from the air at very low cost, he said.
Lower cost than groundwater.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
He already has them in Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, and Flint.
I think he's made 12 of them so far.
brian redban
I've talked about this with my dad before, because I have a humidifier, and it does the same thing.
I have to empty out the water container out of it every night.
A dehumidifier, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Right.
brian redban
And it has this big tank that when I use it, I have to throw it out.
And I was like, that just pulls from the air.
And I was like, Dad, why can't you drink it?
And he says it's still water, so you can't...
You can't drink still water, right?
Still water?
You know what...
jamie vernon
Like pond water kind of shit?
brian redban
No, like the...
joe rogan
Puddle water?
brian redban
It's not still water.
The water you can buy...
joe rogan
Oh, distilled.
brian redban
Distilled water.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, it's not good for you.
You got to add electrolytes to it.
The science behind the technology is simple condensation, the same principle that creates beads of water on the outside of a cold glass of water on a hot, humid day.
The warmer and more humid the air outside, the better his machine is able to condense the water in the air, making it rain inside the shipping container-sized device.
A spigot and a hose allow people to fill up any container with fresh, potable water.
It's like an endless source of water.
It's a water generator.
That's really cool for places that are humid.
I wonder if that would work in LA, though, because it's dry as fuck here.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Do they have any water in the air here?
They must have some.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
I looked on the other day.
It's 62% humidity outside.
I was like, this is...
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
That's Ohio levels.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Right now it is?
jamie vernon
It was just the other day.
It must have been...
joe rogan
Cloudy day?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
So on a regular day, but is it ever 0% humidity?
brian redban
It's not.
No, it's lower, but it's still not.
Like, I always thought it was zero, but it's not always.
joe rogan
Well, if what he's saying makes sense, right?
Like, you've always been able to take a glass with ice and a drink, and you get condensation on the outside of it.
Always.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
So all they would have to do is, I mean, if that works on a hot day in L.A., they could get water out of the air.
That's amazing.
jamie vernon
This is new, as far as I know.
It's probably not a brand new technology.
He just figured out how to make it viable.
joe rogan
God, I love smart people.
I'm so glad they're real.
I'm so glad they're out there fixing things.
I'm really hoping, and I've talked to many technologists that believe this as well, that technology is going to be the solution for our environmental problems.
That they're going to be able to pull carbon out of the air.
Is this it right here?
That's the machine?
jamie vernon
That's him, yeah.
Next here, it cuts him, like, filling it up.
joe rogan
What is this gentleman's name?
jamie vernon
Moses West.
joe rogan
Powerful Moses West.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Figured it out.
And that's like a truck container.
Like, it looks like the...
brian redban
Look at that.
unidentified
There it is.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
It looks like one of those things on the...
Like a caboose on a train.
What's a caboose?
No.
Cab?
Which one's the cargo holder?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
What are those?
It's like the front's the engine, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's all those ones in the back?
What are those called?
jamie vernon
The locomotive's the front, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah, caboose is the bottom.
joe rogan
Look at all that water they're getting out of the fucking air.
Texas man plans to take water machine to the Bahamas.
Dude, the Bahamas is really depressing.
Have you paid attention to the devastation in the Bahamas?
jamie vernon
From the hurricane?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, Eve Edwards is from the Bahamas.
So he went down there and he's helping out.
And I looked at some of the video footage of the devastation down there.
The Bahamas essentially got wiped out.
I mean, they got crushed by that hurricane.
jamie vernon
Yeah, the airport was...
Disappear, just gone.
joe rogan
Yeah, pull up some footage.
brian redban
Have you ever been to Bahamas?
joe rogan
No, I've never been.
jamie vernon
Have you?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's it like?
brian redban
Very beach.
It was the only place where everyone was trying to sell you drugs everywhere.
I was at Pizza Hut, and the guy goes, here's your pizza.
And I went to Pizza Hut for some reason.
I don't know why.
Because I was like, oh, I want American, poor, cheap pizza.
And the guy goes, here's your pizza.
I go, do you want to buy any Coke?
And I'm like, no.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Pizza and Coke.
I figured if you're the type of guy who gets pizza in the Bahamas, you're the type of guy who does Coke.
Look at what it looks like, man.
Fuck.
Look at that one on the right, the far right, the big picture.
Go large with that.
Look at that, man.
That's insane.
I mean, it essentially wiped out the island.
See, when you're in the path of hurricanes on a regular basis like that, And you're stuck there.
That's got to be such a helpless feeling.
You know the destruction's coming basically every year.
brian redban
It wasn't this bad 10 years ago, right?
All these people probably were like, yeah, we had a hurricane once 20 years ago.
But now it seems like they're just getting fucked every year.
joe rogan
Well, part of it is because of climate change, the Atlantic Ocean.
The Atlantic Ocean is a warm ocean, right?
That's why we don't get hurricanes out here in the Pacific, because the water's cold.
The pros and the cons.
The pros are...
We don't get hurricanes.
The cons are it's cold to swim in.
But to me, I'll take that all day.
I don't swim in the ocean that much.
Hurricanes seem to come every fucking year.
jamie vernon
The side benefit of Tesla is that they could drive underwater.
Did you see those videos of Tesla?
Not submerged, but crazy.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Because it's airtight.
Tesla's are airtight because they have the nuclear bomb mode for the air conditioning.
You know what I'm talking about?
The radiation mode?
joe rogan
Nuclear bomb mode?
brian redban
So they have the filtration system, at least in the X. I think it's in the S, too.
It's so airtight that if the air quality's bad or whatever, you could do the...
I forget the name of it.
It's not called nuclear bomb mode, but it's the nuclear symbol.
joe rogan
Like fallout mode?
brian redban
Yeah.
And it makes it so no air, it's only filtering the air that's inside the cabin, and it's airtight so that if there's bad gas outside...
joe rogan
How long would it take before you run out of oxygen, though?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
Yeah, good question.
joe rogan
Because there's only so much air in there.
If you just breathe in air and blow out carbon dioxide, it wouldn't eventually fill up?
brian redban
Or maybe it's filtering the air because the filters can...
It's like wearing a gas mask.
It's filtering new air into it.
Yeah, what is it called here?
joe rogan
Does that really work like that?
brian redban
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
I remember I was watching an episode of Top Gear and they were saying that the air that comes out of a Porsche 911 Turbo is actually cleaner than the air it sucks in in downtown LA. So if you drive around a 911 Turbo in LA, the exhaust fumes are actually cleaner than the air it pulls in.
brian redban
Bioweapon defense mode is what Elon Musk calls it.
joe rogan
Bioweapon defense mode.
brian redban
It's the advanced air filter systems to the point that Automaker has been making incredible claims about it.
joe rogan
Now, does it filter out carbon monoxide?
Like, can it give you a continuous supply of oxygen while the battery's charged?
brian redban
Let's see.
jamie vernon
When those fires were going on, I remember he was tweeting something about they were being used as escape vehicles to get people out because they had such good HEPA filters on them, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh.
Hmm.
That makes sense.
Yeah, having been in those fires myself, it's stunning how weird it gets when you're seeing, like, fire everywhere and then the air is just everywhere you go.
It's just filled with smoke.
The worst I ever saw was one year we were filming Fear Factor and the entire ride home for more than 50 miles.
The whole right side of the highway was on fire.
jamie vernon
I thought it was more water than that, but there's some other videos.
brian redban
That's a lot of water, bro.
What's so funny, he makes a wave that attacks this reporter.
Look, he's like...
joe rogan
That's a weird feature.
Because you remember those karmas, those Fisca karmas, they blew up at the dock because the dock got overrun with water and they all started exploding?
brian redban
Yeah, that's fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, they didn't figure that out.
It's going to be interesting to see who steps into the electric car world.
Like now that Porsche has got this really sweet looking new car that's coming out.
But apparently it doesn't have as many miles, doesn't go as many miles as a Tesla.
And it's not as fast as a Tesla.
brian redban
Which is weird.
joe rogan
But that's weird.
Like you're Porsche.
Why don't you have a faster car than Tesla?
How did they do that?
Why would they release a car that's not as fast?
brian redban
I think they all can agree that Elon's 10 years past all the car makers right now.
joe rogan
Oh, he's 10 years ahead.
Well, it makes sense.
brian redban
I think Apple's going to have something pretty cool.
If Apple really does finally release their electric car, you know that's going to be the iPhone of cars.
joe rogan
Do you think they're really doing that?
brian redban
I really do.
I think Elon even said that they are.
joe rogan
I haven't heard of that.
jamie vernon
They could buy someone, maybe, or put their name on something, but for them to get in a car, it seems pretty tough for Tesla to do it, to make their own cars.
brian redban
No, I think they're teaming up with Volkswagen, and it's going to be an Apple car or something like that.
joe rogan
It seems like an insane waste of time.
Let's just go buy a Tesla.
Apple has so much money though.
It's amazing how much money that- They could buy Tesla.
Yeah, they definitely could.
It's amazing how much money that company has just stored up.
They could.
They could buy Tesla and just turn them into apples.
Easily.
brian redban
That'd be great.
joe rogan
If Elon wanted to sell, I don't think he wants to sell.
I think he wants to prove everybody wrong.
When everybody says that the company's going to go out of business, it's going to lose 80% of its market share.
I don't know how he does everything.
That's what doesn't make any sense to me.
How does he do that and...
Pay attention to the tunnels they're digging under LA, and pay attention to SpaceX, and pay attention to SolarCity.
How the fuck can one guy have so many different irons in the fire?
brian redban
A lot of assistants, I bet.
I'm sure.
joe rogan
But how does he rest?
How do you rest when you have that many different things going on?
That shit ain't good.
The most busy you've ever been, how many podcasts were you doing?
brian redban
uh there was a point where with yours and death squad i was probably doing like 11 a week i was pretty much only doing podcasts i ruined all my relationships God damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, that is just not wise, right?
That's just too much.
It's too much to do.
When people do that, when they just take on too many different...
I've thought about other stuff, like doing other stuff.
I've had offers to do other stuff, and I start thinking about it.
Maybe I can find time for that.
And then I give myself coaching.
I'm like, what would you tell yourself?
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
You're not doing anything else.
You can barely do all the stuff you're doing now.
I think for me too, as I get older, especially like right now in my life, my leisure time is very important to me.
Like it means something.
And I don't mean leisure like sit around doing nothing, but like hobbies.
Like stuff that I do.
Like lately I've been shooting guns.
brian redban
Yeah, I was jealous, man.
joe rogan
Dude, you should come with us.
brian redban
I'm thinking about buying a gun.
joe rogan
You should get a gun.
You want to come with us tomorrow?
Wait a minute.
What's today?
Wednesday.
I might be going tomorrow.
We'll talk afterwards.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
But I'm going soon.
unidentified
Cool.
joe rogan
You should come.
It's fun.
It's fun.
You learn how to shoot a gun.
brian redban
You're doing the tactical stuff.
joe rogan
That looks fun.
It is fun.
brian redban
It's like a video game.
joe rogan
But some people get mad.
A lot of mad comments.
brian redban
Why?
joe rogan
Just get mad.
They don't want you shooting guns.
Stop it.
unidentified
Stop it.
joe rogan
Think of the children.
unidentified
Stop it.
jamie vernon
Blanks.
joe rogan
Well, we're not shooting blanks.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
We're shooting real bullets.
jamie vernon
Of course it was.
joe rogan
But there's also a game that you can get we're going to get for this studio.
It's a real pistol.
It looks like a real pistol.
It has a six-pound pull, so it feels like a real pistol when you pull the trigger.
And it's like that techno-hunt thing, where you've got a laser beam that shoots out, and it even makes a noise like a gun.
Like, bang, bang, bang!
And you're shooting zombies.
brian redban
No way!
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it's heavy, like a pistol, so you have to hold it like a pistol.
jamie vernon
Dope.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Dude.
brian redban
That's badass.
jamie vernon
Does it keep score and whatnot?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It tells you how many civilians you shoot, how many zombies you got.
Because sometimes people come running around the corner and it's a zombie and then there's a civilian behind them.
You got to make sure not to shoot.
jamie vernon
Are you guys rolling around and shit out there or are you just standing still in that area?
joe rogan
We're not in a movie, bro.
jamie vernon
I know, but I don't know how much fun you guys are having.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
No.
I don't think it's a good idea to have dummies like me roll around with a gun in my hand.
jamie vernon
That's true.
brian redban
Somebody told me to buy a Glock 19. That was the gun to buy.
joe rogan
It's a great gun.
All right, cool.
Before you do anything, you should learn how to shoot.
brian redban
I've shot before.
I've gone a few times with you.
joe rogan
Yeah, for rifles, right?
brian redban
Oh yeah, but I've shot in Burbank at a shooting place.
joe rogan
Oh, they have a place near you?
brian redban
Yeah, it's right down the street.
joe rogan
It's fun, man.
It's fun.
We should have a JRE shooting range somewhere.
brian redban
Hell yeah.
jamie vernon
We all went before to that thing.
brian redban
Yeah, we shot all the hard drives.
joe rogan
Yes, that was fun, man.
That was fun, wasn't it?
brian redban
It was.
joe rogan
Rifle shooting is fun, but pistol shooting, when you're holding in your hand, it's way more difficult.
brian redban
Is it?
You think it's more difficult?
joe rogan
More difficult to aim.
Yeah, because he gave me a rifle, and I shoot rifles so much, or I have shot them so much, it's easy.
You just have trigger discipline.
You just don't yank the trigger, just pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, bang, and let it go off like a surprise shot, and I hit everything I aimed at.
And he was like, okay, you've shot that before.
But like pistols, I've only shot pistols at a range with no instruction.
I don't really, I didn't know what I'm doing at all.
And once you learn like how to grip it, how to hold it, how to aim, like you don't really hold that hard with your right hand.
Most of the pressure is with your left.
And the grip is very, it's not intuitive.
You have to learn it.
It's something that you have to be taught correctly.
And there's so many people there that are like, They shoot in competitions.
And so when you watch them do it, you're like, oh, wow, Jesus Christ.
Like, there's levels to this.
There's guys that can pull their gun out and shoot four shots inside of a second.
unidentified
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang!
joe rogan
In a second.
Pull, draw, pull, shoot.
Four shots inside of a second.
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
But they're just begging for someone to break in their house.
There's people like that out there.
There's people like that where you break in their house, you've fucked with the wrong person.
brian redban
Well, Tent City's growing, so I think I need to get one.
You just need to move.
joe rogan
LA's going to be a giant homeless encampment.
brian redban
It really is.
joe rogan
If you looked at the spread, if it was a disease, a deadly disease that was killing everybody, and you saw patient zero, and then it spread to two people, four people, six people, ten people...
Now LA has more than 60,000 homeless people.
And every single underpass that you go to, you see camps now.
It's not like it used to be.
It's a totally different animal now.
brian redban
It's like The Walking Dead, man, where it seems like it's growing...
Laurel Cannon, when you're going to Laurel Cannon off the 101, it used to be pretty normal.
Last night or two nights ago when I went through it, there was no sidewalk anymore.
If somebody had to walk on that sidewalk, good luck.
You're going through Ewok Village.
joe rogan
Yep, and needles and all kinds of fucked up and human shit.
I mean, human shit's all over downtown LA. I've seen a lot of people shit like that.
And that's nothing compared to San Francisco.
That guy, Zuby, who's on our podcast, he did a bunch of posts about his trip to San Francisco.
He's like, it is so much worse.
He was saying it was so much worse than he thought it was.
It's so beyond comprehension how many people are just openly shooting up drugs, shitting in the streets, homeless people everywhere.
How do you fix that?
If you think that if there's something that LA needed to fix, out of all the things that LA complains about, the homeless problem is one of the most insurmountable problems.
What do you do to curb that?
How do you get these people homes?
How do you clean these people up?
How do you get them off drugs?
How do you get them off the streets?
How do you make it not a public nuisance?
How do you make it so people aren't scared to go down streets?
Because there's certain streets in downtown LA where you see the street.
Like, you're at the beginning of the mouth of the street and you're looking down the street like, I'm not walking down there.
Like, this is terrible.
brian redban
They need to open up the mental hospitals again.
Whenever they closed them down, what, in the 70s or the 80s?
That's what caused all this.
They don't have those anymore.
joe rogan
It definitely was a problem, but it seems like it's gotten way worse, right?
Like, think about what it used to be 10 years ago.
Now think about what it is now.
I mean, this 10 years ago, it was still decades after they closed down the mental institutions.
They changed the standards.
So what it was, was they had certain standards where...
You would be institutionalized.
And they changed those standards under the Reagan administration and just sent these people out into the streets.
And everybody thought it was like really cruel because here you're just releasing these people with all these like severe mental health problems and just releasing them out into the street.
That was a long time ago.
Something has happened recently.
I guess it's the economy.
I mean, I don't know what it is, but another thing you're seeing around this area is mobile homes, like those campers, like Winnebago's, fucking everywhere.
People just get enough money to get one of them mobile homes.
They just park it on the street, and they live in those things.
Which is just like a mobile camp.
And you get these gypsies that hang out and they cook on the sidewalk and shit.
We used to have them here.
They were hanging out and sunbathing on the lawn out here.
And the owner of the building is like, get the fuck out of here.
What are you guys doing?
This isn't a park.
Go to the park.
brian redban
You know what's worse?
Sovereign citizens.
joe rogan
What is that?
brian redban
There's people that don't drive.
They travel.
And they don't follow the rules.
If you watch Live PD, they have...
One every episode.
Two every episode.
They'll get pulled over and they won't even roll down the window and they're like, I don't have to follow your rules, sir.
They never have driver's license or insurance.
jamie vernon
People that don't think taxes apply to them.
They don't think the law applies to them.
brian redban
But that's grown so big recently that it's so many people now that do this shit.
And it's the most...
Gross is like, if you watch on Live PD... What is Live PD? Live PD is cops nowadays, but I think it's way better.
joe rogan
Why is it way better?
brian redban
Because it's live.
It's like four hours long and the hosts are...
joe rogan
It's live?
Like live in the moment?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're like in seven different cities.
They have a whole control center.
Like, all right, we got a speeding going on here.
We got a, oh, there's a chase going on here.
Let's go live over here.
brian redban
Yeah, it's my favorite.
And they also have it in Columbus, Ohio, where they used to, but they just got rid of it.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't even know this was a thing.
And so, these sovereign citizens, what are they saying?
They get pulled over and they say, I don't have to listen to you?
brian redban
Yeah.
They pretty much say, your rules don't apply.
They'll be like, give me your driver's license.
I'm going to take you to jail for just a seatbelt violation.
Give me your license.
They won't.
I don't need to give you a license, sir.
They have this shit they keep on repeating.
And they all go to these websites and they're reading it on their phone.
Sir, I don't have to, you know, do this and that and this.
And then they finally have to, like, break their window and just drag them out and arrest them just for a seatbelt violation.
jamie vernon
Some people are smart and do know what they're talking about, though, but other people have just, like, watched another video and are like, oh, I don't have to listen to this guy.
I'm a YouTuber.
joe rogan
There's something uniquely satisfying about watching that get pulled over by the cops and he knows exactly what his rights are and the cops are fucking up and he calls the cops on different codes and laws and the constitution and then he winds up driving off.
I've seen that before.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
They pull over the DA on accident and they're like, whoops.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Or that woman.
Who was it?
New York.
She was some kind of high up person that got pulled over and she starts yelling at the cops and shit.
She lost her job the next day.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I saw that.
That was ridiculous.
She was trying to throw her weight around.
She didn't realize she was on camera.
brian redban
Being a bitch.
joe rogan
Corruption, man.
That's corruption.
You're a citizen, bitch.
Everybody needs to realize.
There was one where a judge got pulled over and they let him slide, but he got in trouble afterwards as well.
Because it's on camera.
And then someone finds that video and it's like, hey man, you're our citizen.
You're like us.
If you're speeding or something like that and they pull you over, you can't get out and act like you own these cops.
I mean, you've got to give your fucking driver's license.
You've got to show them your identification.
If you're doing something that's an infraction or a violation, that's the whole reason why we have cops.
Do you want everybody just driving 150 miles an hour with no ID and masks on?
No.
So you have to have rules.
So these are the rules.
If you do something that breaks the law, they've got to be able to pull you over and give you a fucking ticket and incentivize you to drive correctly and also find out if maybe you're running from the cops.
So they pull you over, they get your ID, they go, hey man, you've got a murder warrant out for you, so please step out of the car with your hands up.
I mean, this is the whole reason why we have cops in the first place.
These people that think they don't have to pay taxes and the laws don't apply to them.
It's all unconstitutional.
Good luck with that case.
Good luck with that.
Ask Wesley Snipes how that worked out.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They put Wesley in fucking jail for a long time.
Lauren Hill, too.
From the goddamn Fugees.
They put her in a cage for like a year, right?
How long did she go to jail for?
And it was a taxes thing, too, man.
They get these wacky...
Whether it's an attorney or a tax professional or some wacky advisor tells them they don't have to pay taxes.
And they read some internet thing and says, actually, it's unconstitutional.
It's only supposed to apply during wartime.
I'm like, listen.
Pay your fucking taxes.
Okay?
You can protest all you want.
You think it's unjust.
That's good.
They will put you in a fucking jail.
And if you're a famous person that's trying to pull that off, especially a famous rich person, look, it's not good, but it is what it is.
They're going to make an example of you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How long did she go to jail for?
jamie vernon
Three months?
joe rogan
That's it?
She only went to jail for three months?
jamie vernon
Can't tell.
unidentified
Hmm.
jamie vernon
So she was released from a federal prison, women's low security all-female facility.
joe rogan
Just the fact they put her in a fucking cage is crazy.
Like, is she a danger to the public?
Like, what is going on here?
She owes you money?
How come that's the one money that you can't just pay back?
You know, you can't just pay it back.
How come I can't just pay it back?
Nope, not good enough.
jamie vernon
Yeah, you still have to pay it back.
joe rogan
And yet they take away your ability to earn a living for a long time.
Like, Wesley Snipes, how long was he in jail for?
He was in jail for like a solid year.
A whole year behind bars, put a halt to his career, and all because he owed some taxes, because he had some wacky dude that was telling him he didn't have to pay taxes.
How long?
jamie vernon
He had a three-year sentence.
joe rogan
Three years.
Imagine that, man.
Because of money.
They lock you in a goddamn cage.
It's not like he stole money.
It's not like he held up a bank.
It's not like he was a violent person that was a danger to society.
No, he owed some taxes.
brian redban
He made money.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
And they're taking his money.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He made money, but he didn't give his share up to the government.
So the government decided to lock him in a cage to punish him and to make a statement to everybody else.
brian redban
It's also like you pay taxes, you get taxed on your paycheck, and then you get sales taxed.
You're getting taxed how many times, you know?
joe rogan
Getting taxed a lot.
brian redban
Ten times.
joe rogan
Well, then that's why places like Nevada people like.
Because in Nevada, you don't have to pay state taxes.
So you can save a lot of money.
Florida, same thing.
Like I know a dude who moved to Florida because he was going to sell his business.
So he's like, look, I'm going to move to Florida and establish residence in Florida for a few years and then sell my business.
So I'm a Florida resident and then I don't have to pay nearly as much money.
If you own a big business, it can save you a ton of money.
It's just weird that it's different everywhere you go.
Some places just don't have state tax.
You don't have to pay.
Montana has different taxes.
Colorado has different taxes.
Everybody's got a different setup, different amount that you have to pay for this and that.
jamie vernon
There's a weird thing that a lot of the big corporations have their headquarters in Delaware for some reason.
It's like some weird tax law for that.
joe rogan
A nice little tax haven.
Well, isn't that why the Juice moved to Florida?
Didn't OJ move to Florida because they couldn't take his pension that way?
jamie vernon
Well, he owes money based off the lawsuit.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
For the civil suit, yeah.
joe rogan
But he has a pension.
jamie vernon
Right, from the NFL. Yeah.
That they can't take or something.
joe rogan
Right, they can't fuck with that pension.
Dude, I gotta tell you, watching him on Twitter every day is one of the strangest things.
And him talking about football...
So there's certain things, like if you're a guy who went to jail for embezzlement and you got out, but you're a football fan and you still talk about football, okay, you're just talking about football.
But if you're a double homicide guy, you killed two people with a knife, and then you got away with it, but everybody knows you did it, and then you're talking about football.
Hey, Twitter world.
What is he saying?
jamie vernon
Run your studs.
He's talking about fantasy football all the time.
joe rogan
Let me hear some of this.
Go from the beginning.
unidentified
Well, the fifth week is in the can and some things are beginning to reveal themselves.
One, the Dallas Cowboys may not be who we thought they were.
The Buffalo Bills defense is for real.
They are great.
Teddy Bridgewater is more than a seat holder.
If and when the time that Drew Brees decides to move on.
joe rogan
It's just so strange.
jamie vernon
What if you just give an MMA, like, picks?
joe rogan
Right?
What if somebody gets out?
jamie vernon
Stylebender was great this weekend.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be weird.
jamie vernon
Hey.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I mean, obviously he was a great football player in his day.
So it kind of makes sense that he's talking about football, but it is strange.
And then if you look in the comments, it's all knife emojis.
And you really cut me up with that one, Juice.
brian redban
His choice of words sometimes almost make me feel like that he's doing some shit on purpose, though.
joe rogan
I don't think so, Matt.
I think it's psychology.
Look at that.
brian redban
South Park.
joe rogan
South Park.
Covered in jizz.
It's so strange.
jamie vernon
Just grabbing knives.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean...
Man.
It's like you're never getting away from that.
jamie vernon
700 replies.
joe rogan
It's never going to go away.
Right?
I mean, that's who he is.
At least now he's wearing sunglasses in every pick.
It's so strange, though.
Every video.
Hey, look at him.
jamie vernon
He had sunglasses inside, took him off.
joe rogan
He's got his glasses.
Those are reading glasses.
He's got them in his hand, but it's all like jovial football talk.
So strange.
It's just, what a weird time we're at where a guy is a murderer and he's on Twitter.
Yeah, allegedly.
He's on Twitter and just talking about football.
What do you think he gets out of that?
Why do you think he thinks that's a good idea?
Does he just miss attention?
brian redban
I don't think he has anything going for him.
He has to do that to promote signings.
Do you think he does that shit at the mall in Vegas?
joe rogan
I don't know what the fuck he does.
What does OJ do for money?
brian redban
Pete Rose type shit.
joe rogan
He just gets that pension, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he might be trying to build his Twitter account to a point where he could use it for that.
joe rogan
How many people do you have on it right now?
jamie vernon
He's almost up to a million.
It's a 916,000.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's one of those things where it's kind of an oddity, right?
It's like an attraction.
brian redban
He's going to be boxing Screech any day now.
joe rogan
He's really old, and he doesn't move that good, but he's got killer instinct.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I liked him on Naked Gun.
joe rogan
Look, he's, you know, before the murders, he was a beloved person.
It's just such an unusual...
Like, society today is so strange across the board.
You know, like, look at us.
We're wearing NASA costumes.
Millions of people are watching.
Like, what are we doing?
But what's the matter?
jamie vernon
According to this TMZ article, I guess, it says that what he originally owed to the Goldman family due to 22 years of interest is over $100 million now.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
Mmm.
jamie vernon
So...
joe rogan
And they can't make him pay, huh?
jamie vernon
Well, that's like why I guess he can't really work, because they just take all of that money.
joe rogan
So...
jamie vernon
Any autograph signings he does probably would get...
joe rogan
They take all the money.
jamie vernon
Stolen right away.
brian redban
So how does he live?
He has to have like a certain allowance?
joe rogan
I guess that NFL pension.
Or he has a friend who gives him money.
brian redban
Right.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
brian redban
Probably has like a...
I don't know.
How would he do that?
joe rogan
Like, what would he do with his Twitter?
The strange thing is, like, do you think that this is a calculated effort to try to start a social media business?
Or do you think this is just him just trying to connect with people?
jamie vernon
Someone has to be in his ear.
There's no way he just figured out Twitter.
He's just bored and was like, what's this Twitter thing?
Let me download an app.
brian redban
He has somebody pushing him to do it, for sure.
jamie vernon
Read an article.
joe rogan
He's got to be the oddest guy on Twitter.
Him and John McAfee.
That John McAfee guy?
jamie vernon
Is he still running around?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he's like halfway trolling people.
It's hard to tell what he's doing.
What he's doing seems to be almost like some of it's very theatrical.
Remember when we interviewed him when he was on the run?
We interviewed him remotely when he was on the run for murder, and he was saying that it was all nonsense, and I was asking him about meth.
Like, how much meth?
Are you really smoking meth?
I read an article that showed that you had a meth lab that you built in your backyard, and he's like, that was all fiction.
jamie vernon
Remember?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was like, that was a prank.
I was trolling people.
brian redban
I believe that.
joe rogan
You think so?
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
He's old school.
He's an old school troll.
joe rogan
I don't think he was cooking it.
I don't think he was straight up breaking bad in his backyard.
Where was he in Belize?
Like, where was he?
brian redban
Somewhere really weird.
joe rogan
Something like that.
But someplace where it all went sideways on him, right?
Didn't his neighbor wind up getting murdered?
That's why he was on the run, right?
Yeah.
What a character.
unidentified
I wonder what happened to that.
joe rogan
What a character.
The guy was a fucking antivirus mogul, you know?
I mean, that's McAfee.
McAfee antivirus.
He was like Norton and McAfee.
Those were the two big names in antivirus.
brian redban
I wonder what Norton's up to right now.
joe rogan
He's probably hanging out in McAfee's old place in Belize, smoking his leftover meth.
Those dudes who fucking escape society and go and move to some small island and get some little native girlfriends.
That's a weird move, right?
brian redban
That's a great move.
joe rogan
Do you think you'd ever see yourself doing that?
brian redban
Hell yes.
joe rogan
You could podcast from an island somewhere.
brian redban
As soon as that's possible being hologram style anywhere, you could have somebody on as a guest as a podcast, but in hologram form.
joe rogan
Well, listen, if we decided to set up a studio on an island somewhere...
And do the podcast from an island somewhere.
We'd have to fly some guests in, right?
Like, say if there's a few of us, we just talk shit about the news, all the things that are going down, the Trump impeachment, this and that.
We all did it from an island somewhere.
And occasionally we fly people in.
Say if you do it on Lanai, right?
Everybody flies in the Four Seasons, stay in a nice place.
brian redban
It has to be somewhere where there's no hurricanes, though.
joe rogan
They don't get too many hurricanes out there.
brian redban
Catalina Island.
jamie vernon
It sounds like what Jeffrey Epstein pitched to get people on his plane to come up.
unidentified
It does.
Yeah, come on now.
jamie vernon
We're just having a conversation on the island.
joe rogan
Yeah, but we're not banging any kids.
We're just trying to relax.
brian redban
He's still alive anyway, so we can just go to his island.
joe rogan
Do you think he's still alive?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, he's on that island.
joe rogan
How funny is it that people just stop talking about the fact that guy got whacked?
For sure they whacked that guy.
I mean, out of all the things that I'm sure about that I don't know, this is one that I'm most sure.
I'm most sure they murdered that guy.
He knew so much.
From so many different people.
And all the things that went wrong.
Even Michael Shermer, who is like a professional skeptic who doesn't believe in anything.
He found out that the cameras were broken and that they weren't working on the day the guy got offed.
He's like, oh, maybe this is a conspiracy.
You think?
You think?
Clinton flew to his fucking island 26 times.
He flew with Epstein.
Well, I don't know if he flew to his island, but he flew on Epstein's jet 26 different times.
jamie vernon
They held El Chapo there for quite a long time and nothing happened to him.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
At that same facility.
joe rogan
Oh, did they really?
jamie vernon
Yeah, like no one had died there for like 26 years or something like that since the 90s, what I heard.
joe rogan
They whacked that guy.
The most hilarious thing is, did you ever see who his cellmate was?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
His cellmate was a fucking gorilla.
jamie vernon
Really?
joe rogan
Like, the biggest guy you could ever imagine being in your cell.
Like, the guy looked like...
Like, if you were going to have a movie about the worst possible cellmate you could ever have, it would be this guy.
Look at this guy.
Look at the fucking size of the guy!
brian redban
I'm so glad he's white.
joe rogan
And he's a former cop.
A former cop built like a brick shithouse.
I mean, he's enormous.
What is that guy's name?
jamie vernon
Nicolas Tartaglione or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a bad cop.
The cop went bad.
But when you look at the size of him, you're like, come on, man.
That's really his cellmate.
jamie vernon
That's what he looked like before he went in.
brian redban
Look at that bad dog.
jamie vernon
And that's him now?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
He's fucking huge.
A huge, gigantic, muscled-up dude was his cellmate.
And was he there when he got offed?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
He wasn't there?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
What a convenience.
jamie vernon
He was there the first time he committed suicide.
joe rogan
Oh, the first time he tried?
Yeah.
jamie vernon
He saved him.
brian redban
What did this ex-cop do?
jamie vernon
He killed four people in a bad coke deal.
joe rogan
Whoopsies.
No big deal.
Whatever, whatever.
A bad coke deal.
But how funny is that, that that's his cellmate?
Like, what do we got?
What do we got?
Well, we got a murderer that's built like a brick shithouse.
Let's put him in there with him.
brian redban
He got some wet cocaine.
joe rogan
He's transferred out the eve of his suicide.
Like, hey, Vincent.
jamie vernon
And then they had the doctor picture with Ghislaine Masquell at the In-N-Out and Studio City.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It was just like, well, they put that out, disappeared, made the news.
unidentified
Right.
jamie vernon
Doctor photoshopped for some reason.
joe rogan
Where's that lady?
jamie vernon
No one knows.
They didn't even know where she was at the time, and then that picture came out.
They thought she was in Boston or something.
joe rogan
Out of all the high-profile cases, out of all of them, that's got to be the most strange, right?
This guy has an island.
On the island, he has a building that's painted in the colors of the Israeli flag.
They think he's a Mossad agent.
He's some sort of intelligence agent.
The reporter that said that he was released earlier was given a sweet deal because he was intelligence.
That's not been verified, right?
jamie vernon
Right.
That came from one article, the Vanity Fair thing.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
That got repeated a lot, but I don't know that...
joe rogan
We don't know if it's substantiated.
The whole thing, though.
Jesus Christ.
What a crazy story.
This is the strangest time because every day there's new things coming at you so hard and fast.
You can't keep up with it.
jamie vernon
This was his drone.
There was someone flying a drone over his island.
They stopped three weeks ago, I guess, but almost every day there was updated drone footage for some reason.
I don't know how this person was getting it there.
joe rogan
They must have had a boat.
jamie vernon
But yeah, he paid something like $50,000 extra to have a cement truck delivered there a couple months before he got arrested.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
He had a cement truck shipped out to his island, and they think some shit got buried in that tunnel or something.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
So they have footage on this island pre-raid and post-raid of the FBI making it there?
brian redban
Yeah, there was one last week or two weeks ago where they supposedly saw him sitting in a Jeep.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they thought so.
It was just like a worker from the island.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's going to be so many stories about this, but we're never going to know.
It's going to be one of those things that's like the Kennedy assassination or something, where decades will go by, you'll hear all these crazy different stories, people write books about it, but you'll never really know exactly what happened.
brian redban
Hey, we should get this island.
jamie vernon
What happens to this island?
Like, what happens to it?
joe rogan
How much do you think an island costs?
brian redban
It's probably going to be cheap because no one wants to live on a pedophile island, so this could be the place, Joe.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it could be.
unidentified
I mean, this helicopter stops there.
joe rogan
Look at that beautiful water.
I don't know if that's really smart.
Doesn't seem like a good move.
It seems like you want to do like what Roseanne did.
You get a place on an island that is already populated.
A bunch of nice people.
You establish yourself as a valuable member in the community.
And then you set up a little camp there.
Imagine the big island.
The big island might be the move.
Set up a fucking studio on the big island.
brian redban
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think?
jamie vernon
Let's do it.
joe rogan
It's not a bad idea, right?
jamie vernon
Tech Observatory?
Can we do it up there where they let us?
joe rogan
No, they won't even let them build a new telescope.
jamie vernon
What if we take a tent and a microphone up there?
joe rogan
No, they'll get mad at you.
You're littering.
jamie vernon
Temporary.
joe rogan
No!
jamie vernon
All right.
joe rogan
No, you don't want to be up there anyway.
There's no air.
So that's really hot.
It's like 11,000 square feet.
Red Band would be blacking out.
We need to have something like near Kona, like where the Four Seasons is.
See?
Again, the Four Seasons.
jamie vernon
Bring oxygen with us.
joe rogan
I'm Four Seasons minded.
brian redban
Oxygen basement.
joe rogan
Fly people into the Four Seasons.
We rent a suite at the Four Seasons, set it up as a studio.
jamie vernon
Yes.
brian redban
Sounds great.
We have to have an escape oxygen, like, basement we can go to just in case of a hurricane or something crazy happens.
joe rogan
An oxygen basement?
brian redban
Or, like, an escape room.
jamie vernon
We could Airbnb it out to other podcasters that need to vacation.
Not anyone, but, like, your friend.
Like, a good friend of yours.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
They would ruin it.
jamie vernon
Eh, maybe.
unidentified
Farts.
joe rogan
Come on, Ari's gonna go there and fill it with NBMA. All the seal and the water be broken.
Yeah, trust me.
Bad idea.
He's going to put acid on all the doorknobs.
jamie vernon
Someone who can go meditate there quietly.
Someone like that.
joe rogan
Sam Harris goes on those things where you don't talk for 10 days.
Get the fuck out of here with all of that.
He comes back.
He still seems the same.
I don't get it.
These guys, they go on these fucking retreats.
I mean, I'm sure there's a benefit.
I'm sure there's a benefit to silent meditation, but you can take it and stuff it deep in your ass.
Fuck you.
I like talking to people, man.
There's not enough time in this life.
brian redban
You don't like to meditate?
joe rogan
I do meditate for 10 minutes every day.
10. 10 minutes.
That's not much.
brian redban
It's not much.
joe rogan
I cancel it out when I do yoga.
I don't meditate on yoga days because I feel like yoga is basically meditation anyway.
It's like a strain.
And meditation all combined.
And I cancel it out on days I get in the tank.
But other than that, it's beneficial.
It definitely helps me, man.
I got too much just bouncing around inside my head.
But it's controllable.
I just need to get out ahead of it.
Like today.
Today I went for a nice run.
I went running with the dog.
And I feel great.
Because I got it all out of the system.
I did what I had to do.
Come here to do a podcast with you.
Everything's wonderful.
Life is beautiful.
It's all falling into place.
But when it's not, and there's loose ends that need to be sealed up, and I'm behind on this, I don't think good.
If I don't take care of all the things that I'm supposed to take care of, I do not enjoy my time.
To me, I've found that that's a painful lesson that took forever to learn.
That if I don't have all my...
Ducks in a row, and my T's crossed, and my I's dotted.
I'm not happy.
There's just too much things to think about, too much anxiety.
I think that's what's going on with a lot of people.
I think there's a lot of people out there that just don't have their shit together, and they don't ever just say, look, before I do anything else, I gotta get...
Like, Jordan Peterson talks about this.
He says, just clean your room.
Start with that.
You can clean your room.
And most people don't.
You keep your room a mess, and then your life's a mess.
And there's an analogy there.
There's a metaphor there.
Whatever other word you would like.
You know what I'm talking about, Brian.
brian redban
Yes.
joe rogan
So now that you're not keto, what are you doing with your diet?
Are you trying to be healthy?
brian redban
No, not really.
No, but it definitely has made me understand sugar more.
joe rogan
Are you still smoking cigarettes?
brian redban
I'm vaping a lot more, but yeah.
joe rogan
How much cigarettes do you smoke a day?
brian redban
Half pack.
Yeah.
But I don't smoke in my car, so my cigarette has gone down.
joe rogan
Because of that?
brian redban
Because of that, like 75%.
joe rogan
That's good.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What would you think if we decided to do that as a project?
Hire you a trainer and hire you a nutritionist.
Would you be down with that?
brian redban
Sure.
joe rogan
Like film it as a project?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What would you like, what do you weigh now?
You don't have to tell everybody, but what would you like to get down to?
brian redban
Well, see, that's the problem.
When I got down, what, like 15 years ago or 13 years ago, whenever that, when I, whatever, I think that was like 65 pounds or something, and I just thought I looked like I had AIDS or something.
joe rogan
Well, you're just used to yourself looking big.
brian redban
Yeah, but I think some people, like, they have a body shape or look that looks way better with a little chub on them than they do if they look, I don't know.
joe rogan
You know what Joey Diaz said when he lost a lot of weight?
Remember when he lost a lot of weight?
My fucking head looked too big.
brian redban
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
But you know what that is?
It's like you've got to build up your body.
Because something happens to people when they gain weight, your head gets bigger.
It's like when people get really heavy, their head gets bigger.
biologists can back us up on this, some sort of science, but it seems like really overweight people, their head gets really big too.
Like it grows with them, which kind of makes sense because there's like, your bones definitely get bigger and thicker when you lift a lot of weights, right?
Now when you're 450 pounds, you're carrying weight everywhere you go.
So everything's got to be thick.
Like I always said, if Ralphie May wound up losing all that weight, he'd be able to kick a hole through a fucking wall.
Because that guy's carrying around 500 pounds everywhere he goes.
His leg muscles had to be gigantic.
Like underneath all that, his legs must have been fucking huge.
So if you could just...
Put some muscle on while you're losing the fat.
See, that's the difference.
When you were on that...
You look great then, dude.
Look at you, sexy bitch.
How did you think you looked bad then?
brian redban
That's an okay picture.
joe rogan
Stop it.
You're a handsome, beautiful man.
How good does he look, Jamie?
You look fucking great there.
brian redban
I was thinking more of the time when the photo of me and you with that weed guy that died at the 420 Awards.
I just looked like an eight.
That's when I was at my lowest.
joe rogan
The weed guy that died?
brian redban
The one that has all the...
Shit, I can't even think of his name.
He has weed named after him.
He's very famous.
joe rogan
Oh, Jack Herrera.
unidentified
Jack Herrera.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
brian redban
Stroke.
Yeah.
We were hanging out with him.
Me and you.
And I just...
That's when I was at my...
I think I was like 160, 155 or something like that.
I don't even remember.
But I just looked like a sick dog.
joe rogan
Didn't you feel so light, though, when you move around?
brian redban
I guess so.
joe rogan
Like, you could just get places quicker.
Like, oh, lighter.
brian redban
Definitely had more energy, that's for sure.
joe rogan
Dude, you can do this.
What would you think about doing this as a project?
Like, we'll announce it on the podcast, we'll start it off.
Would you be into doing something like that?
brian redban
Yeah, I mean...
Eventually.
Not like this month, because I have to go to Australia.
joe rogan
Why would I start it now?
brian redban
Well, I have to go to Australia.
I'm going to be out of the country.
joe rogan
When are you going back?
Are you doing Kill Tony out there?
brian redban
Yeah, doing Kill Tony.
So this month, I'm on the road.
joe rogan
Okay.
Well, I'm busy being sober this month, too.
It's very difficult for me.
It's fucking surprisingly easy.
It's not hard at all.
I do enjoy a glass of wine with a steak.
I do miss that.
I like a glass of wine, but it's not that important.
It's like a tradition thing.
I'm missing something to look forward to.
A nice glass of red wine with a steak like a gentleman.
brian redban
I think it's only hard when I'm at the comedy store.
joe rogan
Everybody's drinking.
brian redban
It's almost impossible.
joe rogan
I do like a shot of whiskey before I go on stage, too.
I like that.
But I can't.
It's almost over.
brian redban
Yeah, it's halfway.
It's not even halfway.
joe rogan
It's the 10th.
jamie vernon
One-third.
joe rogan
The ninth?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One-third.
Yeah.
It's been easy.
The weed part's easy.
It's really easy.
The show's been great.
I had a great time last night.
I did three shows.
I'll tell you one thing, though, that Jeremiah show is not as easy.
Stand up on the spot.
It's not as easy when you're not high.
brian redban
That's true.
joe rogan
When you're high, you can just ramble about nonsense.
You come up with bits.
I've come up with so many bits from that show, but not when I'm sober.
Last night was basically useless.
brian redban
That's the only show that I purposely do shots, drink, smoke a bunch of weed before I go on.
Usually I don't like to get that stoned before I go on stage.
joe rogan
No, that's the perfect show to be out of your head.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He really should listen to you, though, and rename it Thunder Pussy.
That was the best name.
When you called it Thunder Pussy, it was the perfect name for that.
brian redban
I need to make a new show called Thunder Pussy.
joe rogan
I mean, it's not like he's the only one who's ever done a show that has people just making things up.
And I used to do that at the end of my shows, remember?
I used to have people call out, but they would call out things to talk about.
And they would yell out subjects, and I would just ramble about them.
And occasionally, the reason why I would do it is occasionally, like one every two or three shows, I'd come up with an idea that actually would come up and become a bit.
brian redban
I just remembered something.
We were in Dallas last weekend for Kill Tony, and there was a bisexual on stage, and he was talking about how he's bisexual.
And a lot of times when people are on stage and on this show, I'll be on my computer typing in bisexual on Spotify or something to see what comes up.
And you come up number one or number two on Spotify.
If you just type bisexual, it's you.
And so I point to Tony while we're interviewing the guy, and he goes...
Like that, I'm like, you know what?
I'm going to try to just play.
Like, I can't hear anything.
Right.
So, like, I'll just play, like, because I do sound effects on that.
joe rogan
Was it that bit that I used to have?
The old one.
Don't believe in bisexual men?
brian redban
Yeah, shiny happy jihad.
And so, I just randomly, like, with my eye, look, oh, it looks like Joe's, you know, yelling something here.
And it would be like...
Crafty gay guys!
Or something like that.
And so I started mixing in just random, like picking things.
And then there's a part of the joke where I think you're talking about if you were the gay, the bisexual guy.
Because there was one where it was like...
So, yeah, I experimented once in a while.
joe rogan
That was a different bit.
That was a different bit.
brian redban
It's one on Shiny Happy Jihad.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian redban
But it worked so hard.
Dude, people were on the floor because it sounded like you were just in the back of the room screaming.
joe rogan
Oh, like yelling it out, heckling.
That's a funny thing to, like, if you have one minute on stage, the first thing you're going to talk about is being bisexual.
Yeah.
Isn't it funny how, like, that becomes, like, for people's identity?
Like, their sexuality becomes an important thing about their identity that they want to blur it out to everyone.
But, like, if you're heterosexual, nobody does that.
Because it's the norm, you know?
It's the norm.
You don't feel like you have to get it out of the way.
You don't say, well, my name's Brian, I really like girls.
Right?
Everybody would be like, what?
Yeah, I'm heterosexual.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
But if you say you're bisexual, people are like, oh my god, you're adventurous.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Exotic.
brian redban
People always tell you when they're bisexual.
At least guys.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or girls.
They love telling you.
But it's like a thing they do to get attention.
It's like, you know, certain girls, they're always around guys, they just talk about their guy problems.
And it's like, oh, groan.
I know what you're doing.
You're like fishing for saviors.
You're fishing for some guy to come along and send you some dick and fix your problem.
You know what I mean?
Like, some girl's like, God, these guys I date, they just never want to have sex.
You know those little bait traps that girls set up?
And you're like, oh my god, who's going to fall for this one?
Stop!
You know?
You know how it goes, Brian.
brian redban
Of course I do.
joe rogan
Hey man, it's 2 o'clock.
I've got to wrap this up.
Tickets for Australia, are they still available?
brian redban
Yeah, there's some left.
joe rogan
Desquad.tv?
brian redban
San Francisco next weekend.
joe rogan
You guys at Cobbs?
brian redban
Four shows.
Cobbs.
joe rogan
Oh, Friday and Saturday?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brian redban
Two shows each night.
unidentified
Oh, damn.
brian redban
It's Kill Tony Mania.
joe rogan
Oh, that's fun.
Are you doing stand-up too or just doing Kill Tony?
brian redban
This we're just doing Kill Tony because it's like our yearly...
joe rogan
Oh, okay, cool.
Is there a lot of comics up in San Francisco?
brian redban
Yeah, and there's a lot of comics that just come down or come up for this.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure, right?
From all over the area.
Okay, Red Band on Twitter, Red Band on Instagram, anything else?
brian redban
Nope, that's it.
Check me out on Ari Shaffir's podcast.
I just did a Skeptic Tank.
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