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April 30, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1287 - Rich Benoit
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joe rogan
Believe in wireless.
He needs to see it.
Boom!
And we're live.
What's up, Rich?
How are you, man?
rich benoit
What's poppin', baby?
What's going on, man?
joe rogan
Thanks for doing this.
I really appreciate it.
rich benoit
Dude, thank you for having me on this show, man.
joe rogan
Well, I read about you, a fellow Boston native, and I read about your Tesla journey, and I was like, this is a fucking interesting story.
This guy buys a broken Tesla, and then you couldn't get parts for it anywhere.
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
So what had happened to the car?
Had it been in an accident?
rich benoit
No, so I met the previous owner and he actually, I think it was during Hurricane Sandy.
He thought that, he goes, wait a minute, that water level seems low enough for me to drive through it.
And he just started driving through the water.
I think it got up to like the, almost like the B pillar.
joe rogan
Oh no.
rich benoit
Up to like where his neck is, yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
rich benoit
Yeah, I know, right?
So he thought he could fight the water.
He lost, obviously.
And it was just underwater.
And I'm like, you know what, I got to try this thing.
joe rogan
And so what would Tesla do in that situation?
If he wanted to bring it back to them, they would have to rebuild the entire car?
rich benoit
They wouldn't even do it because at that point, once anything liquid, you know, any kind of like water intrusion happens in an EV, they just write the whole car off.
Insurance companies just like, we're not going to deal with this.
joe rogan
Too risky.
rich benoit
Too risky.
It's not worth it.
joe rogan
Were you aware of the Fisker dilemma at Hurricane Sandy when they had the Fiskers that were parked at some sort of a dock where they brought them off the ship?
They all exploded.
rich benoit
Yeah, they all burned.
joe rogan
The water level rose and the water got into them and they just went off like fucking fireworks.
rich benoit
And they lost a whole bunch of them.
joe rogan
Look, there's a video of it.
You can watch the video of them fucking blowing up.
So as the water level rose, you can see the water breaching.
Well, the water gets to the cars, and when it gets to the cars, they just start going off like fucking fireworks.
rich benoit
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
rich benoit
I know that feeling.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
There it goes.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Boom!
rich benoit
Oh, damn.
unidentified
Look at that shit!
Dude!
rich benoit
Oh, it's like a supernova.
joe rogan
I mean, those are big-ass fucking batteries just blowing the fuck up.
That's insane!
That turns night into day.
rich benoit
That's amazing.
How many?
They lost like 40 cars up there?
joe rogan
They lost a fuckload.
And the company essentially went, they went radioed silent for like a year.
rich benoit
That's a big L to take.
joe rogan
Yeah, they took a hit.
Once people realized their car could just explode.
rich benoit
Yeah, that's not good.
jamie vernon
What happened?
I didn't look at the name of the video.
It popped up when I typed in the Fisker explosion, but this was the explosion of the Con Ed plant.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a big difference.
unidentified
I was like, what the fuck is in those cars?
joe rogan
But there is a video of the actual Fiskers exploding, isn't there?
jamie vernon
I think there's definitely pictures.
rich benoit
I have a feeling the second video won't be as exciting now.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's leave it off.
Fuck it.
More misinformation.
rich benoit
Just set us back an hour.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that's the cars.
That's what was left of them.
rich benoit
Wow.
joe rogan
And they all fucking blew up.
It's a beautiful car, though.
Fisker did a great job of making a car that looks really good.
rich benoit
Right, but you know what's funny?
I... I think the back end's kind of ugly.
unidentified
Do you?
rich benoit
I think the front looks like a fish.
The back's kind of ugly.
And then actually, have you ever driven one?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
Ever been in one?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
When you drive one, you'll be like, ah, I get why this didn't work out.
joe rogan
Well, Justin Bieber had an all-chrome one.
rich benoit
I remember that.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
Does he still have it, though?
Does he still have it?
joe rogan
He probably doesn't even know.
rich benoit
Yeah, he probably doesn't know at this point.
joe rogan
You know, the amount of money that dude must have?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He probably has no idea if he has that car.
rich benoit
No kidding.
joe rogan
He's got it tucked away somewhere.
But what do they drive like?
rich benoit
They're just not really great cars.
It's not really a driver's car.
It's a 2 plus 2. The center console is super wide.
It's a super awkward car to drive.
And it's not really good at really anything.
You know, styling-wise, I'm like, oh, there we go.
joe rogan
So you think that back end looks ugly?
rich benoit
I don't think I like it that much, no.
But you know what's funny?
The chrome doesn't look that bad.
joe rogan
Some guy got arrested in Germany.
They pulled him over and it compounded his car because he had a gold shiny wrap on it.
rich benoit
Right.
Was it too reflective or something?
jamie vernon
I've seen that on Sunset.
There's a couple on Sunset.
Like a Lamborghini or something.
joe rogan
They'll let you do that in America.
But in Germany, they're like, fuck off.
unidentified
Fuck off.
joe rogan
They took that shit right off.
You know, they're like harsh, cold, stoic folk.
They don't want you doing that.
rich benoit
They don't want you flexing too much over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, not too much.
I bet they reluctantly are making cars super flashy for American markets and shit.
rich benoit
I think so, too.
joe rogan
You know, I wonder.
rich benoit
You think so?
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, I wonder how much of an influence it has, like, if you could leave them to themselves.
rich benoit
Right.
What kind of cars do they make?
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I feel like so much of it is, like, market-driven.
But they, when it comes to, like, engineering and handling, like, goddamn German cars have it nailed.
rich benoit
They really do.
joe rogan
They've got it nailed.
rich benoit
But you know what?
The Americans are, they were trying to sneak up and get close for a while.
But, I mean, like, the Germans are just the standard.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The only weird place where the Americans fuck with it is like, have you ever driven a Camaro Z01? I have, yeah.
That's a preposterous car.
rich benoit
It's an awesome car.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
rich benoit
I have a Corvette Z06. Ooh, which year?
It's a 06, which is the LS7, 7 liter.
And it's an insane car.
By today's standards, it only has like 505 horsepower.
Isn't that funny?
joe rogan
That's not a lot.
rich benoit
It's a mean car.
The car will put you on your ass really quick, man.
Turn you to a man.
joe rogan
Our friend Taylor out there was telling us that they put a Tesla in ludicrous mode on a dyno.
And it had some insane number of torque.
It was like 900 pound foot of torque.
And somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,000 horsepower.
unidentified
Right.
rich benoit
And the dyno could barely even read it.
A lot of dinos don't even go that high in a lot of cases.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
They're insane cars, man.
I'm telling you.
The Americans know how to do it now.
I think it's interesting that, you know, people don't realize this when they see a Tesla.
It's a fully American car.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
And they don't realize that.
They're just like, oh, it's probably something like, you know, German or like Japanese car.
But the car's 100% made here.
joe rogan
Is this it right here, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
Is this the...
Which model is this?
P100D. P100D. So that's the biggest one.
So what does it say?
jamie vernon
It's on a Mustang dyno.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sounds like a little good old boys.
unidentified
I'm going to take this Tesla up here and try to figure out how fast she goes.
joe rogan
I think I can get it to jump.
jamie vernon
I thought it said 56 seconds.
rich benoit
Yeah, no, I think it even almost jumps off the dyno at this point.
There's so much torque.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a very, very, very powerful car.
There you go.
joe rogan
When I try to describe it to people, especially people that have never driven an electric car, I'm like, it doesn't even seem real.
It seems like it violates physics.
rich benoit
So how do you like yours, by the way?
I love it.
I know that Elon Musk came here and bamboozled you into buying one, pretty much.
How dare you?
joe rogan
I love it.
I love it.
rich benoit
It's great, isn't it?
joe rogan
It makes other cars seem stupid.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
And I love cars.
rich benoit
Oh yeah, I know you're a car guy.
joe rogan
I love them.
I love cars that don't even drive that fast.
I love mechanical, engineered excellence.
I love when people figure things out.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Which is what brought me to you.
I love the fact that you took this car that was fucked up and you refused to let it go.
You're like, I'm going to figure out how to fix this fucking thing.
How much did you buy it for?
rich benoit
It was 15 grand.
Just to be clear on something, I'm not some evil genius or brainiac.
This was driven by my cheapness.
Because I didn't want to spend the kind of money they were asking for one.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
So basically, this car is like $15,000.
And the whole story started when my friend came over.
He actually had a job at Tesla.
And he's like, buddy, listen, do these crazy cars.
I know you have a Z06, but this car is faster than that.
You're going to love this thing.
I was like, that electric crap box, I don't want anything to do with that, whatever.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
He brought the car over.
Great looking car.
I said, all right, and I'll take it for a drive or whatever.
And the thing was amazing.
Right?
Amazing car.
So I was in tech and I'm just like, listen, like, you know what?
Like, how much does this thing cost?
Like, I make decent money, whatever.
I'll just throw some money at it.
He's like, listen, this will cost you about 120. I said, you know what?
Have a nice day.
I'm not buying that shit.
And then he, so he left, and I thought to myself, like, every night I was like, you know what, I gotta get my hands on one of these cars, man.
I gotta get one, like, you know, sell a kidney, whatever, sell a testicle, whatever I can do.
And it, I was searching online, and, you know, what happens is whenever a car gets messed up, Whenever a car gets, as they say, totaled in a way and it's a total loss, an insurance company will take it and they'll kind of auction it off to like the highest bidder.
So I went to an auction site and I saw one for sale.
It was like, you know, 15 grand.
They said it didn't run or drive and it was in a flood.
And I'm just like, 15 grand?
I could do that.
It's a piece of cake, man.
I'll throw some money at it, whatever.
How hard can it be?
You stick it in a bag of rice, and then you tie it up.
It's like an iPhone.
You know when you drop your iPhone in the toilet?
You know what I mean?
It's just like, oh, man, it sucks.
You do it in a bag of rice, and you're good to go.
So I figured all I'd do was just buy more rice for this thing.
And I got it home, and I was like, you know what?
I got myself into some shit here because it was a lot more work than I thought it was going to be.
joe rogan
So you didn't – sight unseen.
You purchased it.
rich benoit
No, sight unseen.
And that's the way it is most times.
They don't really let you on the auction lots too often.
So they took five photos of it.
It was some from the interior, some from the side, and one under the frunk.
And I was just like, I could probably do this, right?
No big deal.
joe rogan
So this begins this project, which takes how long to completion?
rich benoit
I think it took me about maybe six or seven months or so.
joe rogan
Of straight work?
rich benoit
No, so I was working at the time, and I think only between the hours of like 7pm and like 11pm.
Like every night.
And then weekends for a few hours until I figured it out.
joe rogan
So goodbye social life.
rich benoit
Pretty much, yeah.
I was a hermit for those months.
And what I actually ended up doing was...
So I had the car, right?
So I was freaking out because my wife was just like, how much was that thing?
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Of course.
rich benoit
Yeah, she had the divorce papers ready pretty much.
unidentified
And...
rich benoit
Oh, there I am.
joe rogan
Is that it?
rich benoit
No, this was a different one.
joe rogan
That one's fucked up.
rich benoit
Yeah, that one's really messed up now.
I couldn't save that one.
joe rogan
How much did you get that one for?
rich benoit
That one was about...
Guess.
joe rogan
Four grand.
rich benoit
That was 20 grand I paid for that.
unidentified
What?
Yes!
What?
Yes.
joe rogan
That thing's totaled.
rich benoit
Yeah, I know, but they're so valuable, man.
joe rogan
Really?
rich benoit
Because you know why?
It's the battery technology and the motor technology that Tesla's using.
Everyone's just dying for that stuff, man.
So any wrecked Tesla that you find...
Minimum.
I know I'm still in the secret sauce here.
Minimum worth 15 grand.
unidentified
Wow.
rich benoit
Even if it looks like that.
Dead serious.
joe rogan
That's insane.
That thing doesn't even have doors.
rich benoit
I took the doors off.
joe rogan
Oh, you took the doors off.
rich benoit
But the battery pack is still in there.
joe rogan
That's what you want.
rich benoit
And the motor was still in there, too.
joe rogan
Do people take those and put them in like old cars or anything yet?
rich benoit
Absolutely.
Yeah?
That's the new generation of hot rodders, man.
joe rogan
Because I saw something like that about a Mustang.
It was like a 65, 66 Mustang that was electric, but I didn't know what train it used.
rich benoit
So you know how...
You're a gearhead, you know this.
The LS swap.
They put literally an LS into everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a Land Cruiser.
We have a Land Cruiser with one.
rich benoit
LS swap?
Oh shit.
So that's the new LS swap, basically.
So the Tesla motor is the new LS swap.
Everyone is swapping a Tesla motor into Volkswagen Bugs, into Audis, into Porsches, into everything.
joe rogan
Well, I know people are doing LS swaps into 911s, and Porsche people are losing their fucking minds.
rich benoit
I know.
joe rogan
Because they're taking old, air-cooled cars, which are really notoriously difficult to get to a high horsepower rate.
rich benoit
Exactly.
joe rogan
Because those air-cooled cars, you can only get them around 400 plus horsepower.
rich benoit
And they start crumbling.
joe rogan
Unless you're Singer.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Well, they've got that insanely engineered new one.
What is that called?
rich benoit
Lightweight?
I don't know what it's called.
Either way, it's going to cost you damn near $100,000.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Something dynamic, lightweight, something.
It's the most gorgeous looking of those Porsches I've ever seen, ever.
And they built that one up to 500 plus horsepower.
rich benoit
How much does it cost, though?
That's the thing.
joe rogan
Fucking million six.
A million six.
rich benoit
Are you going to buy one?
joe rogan
That's a giant house, man.
That's a house with land.
You might have a lake.
rich benoit
Well, actually, that's not true.
In LA, that's not a house.
joe rogan
No, but LA's not the real world.
What is that?
67 Mustang meets Tesla.
Look at that.
AVR Motors all-electric muscle car.
Holy fuck.
That's a 68. That's good-looking, too.
That's one of the best-looking rear ends of any car ever.
rich benoit
That's an awesome-looking car.
joe rogan
Fuck, that looks incredible.
jamie vernon
2.2, 0-60.
rich benoit
Damn!
There you go.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
rich benoit
So that's new.
It's going to cost you a ton of money.
joe rogan
Bookmark that.
rich benoit
It's going to cost you a ton of money to recreate that same look.
God damn.
Look, it has a nice screen, too.
Look at that.
joe rogan
That's so weird, though, to not shift a muscle car.
I think I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm backing out.
unidentified
I'm backing out.
rich benoit
But wait, but you love your Tesla, though.
You don't shift that.
joe rogan
But it doesn't look like that.
I would be a super ultra poser.
The door handles come out like a Tesla's, too?
unidentified
Oh, wait.
rich benoit
There's a Tesla.
Oh, fuck off.
Next.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
There's a company that does, it's a company called Revology that makes old, like 1966 to like 68 Mustangs, but they do it with all new parts and modern technology.
rich benoit
It's like a resto mod, pretty much.
joe rogan
It's not, though, because it's a new car.
They buy the full, that's actually a brand new car that's never existed.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
rich benoit
So ground up built?
joe rogan
Ground up built.
They buy the whole...
I think it's called a unibody construction.
Is that what it is?
There's something...
The way that these Mustangs are constructed, the bodies built into the frame.
And this company sells them...
Like, completed versions of the body kit that are perfect, with perfect tolerances.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
So, like, that's one, the 67 Shelby GT500. What's the price?
rich benoit
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Stupid expensive.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
It's not going to work.
joe rogan
It's like two Teslas.
rich benoit
Yeah, pretty much.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they're dope.
It's dope as fuck.
If you look at, like, what it looks like, go down, see some pictures of it, Jamie.
You can get a better sense of it.
But this guy is very meticulous.
This company is very meticulous.
I've been following their stuff for quite a while.
What they do is really incredible.
That's an all-new sheet metal.
Everything's new, but it has killer brakes, and it has a modern Coyote Mustang engine in it.
So it's a 460 horsepower engine in these old, badass muscle cars.
And that one's the GT500. That one's actually supercharged.
That has a 600 horsepower engine.
Dude, it's dope.
They're fucking gorgeous.
They're gorgeous cars.
They're really pretty.
rich benoit
So what would you think about someone dropping an electric motor on one of these things?
joe rogan
See, I love it.
Look, I love people doing crazy shit, but it's not for me.
I need to shift.
If I'm driving that thing, I gotta pretend I'm Steve McQueen.
rich benoit
I hear you, man.
unidentified
I hear you.
rich benoit
Here's the thing.
So what do you think about the new, you've seen the new Tesla Roadster, right?
joe rogan
Gorgeous.
rich benoit
What do you think about it?
joe rogan
I love it.
rich benoit
How is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's theirs from the bottom up.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, I don't mind not shifting in it.
That thing seems like it's going to literally punch a hole through space time.
rich benoit
I think so too, man.
I think so too.
I think they're looking at it like 0 to 60 in like 1 point something seconds.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it's 1.9.
I think that's what they're saying.
rich benoit
It's insane, man.
joe rogan
That's bizarre.
I know.
When you feel it in the P100D mind, everybody that I get in the car and I stomp on the gas, they're like, what the fuck?
rich benoit
They can't believe it.
joe rogan
These are around you.
It's like vampires being around people.
People that just leap to the top of buildings and they're walking around looking regular until some shit goes down.
rich benoit
Yeah, no, they're absolutely amazing cars, man.
And I think that's the main reason why I was like, I gotta get one of these, man.
joe rogan
So what was the struggle?
Initial struggle.
You have the car, you take it apart, and what did you see?
rich benoit
Right.
So pretty much I was kind of taking my time because I knew there was a point where I couldn't fix the damn thing and I was just kind of wasting everyone's time.
I was like, hey, is this thing almost done?
I was like, yeah, babe, don't worry about it.
We're good.
Don't worry.
Our money's safe.
And so there's a certain point where I took everything apart and I was like, all right, I found a dead fish in the back of the car, by the way.
So actually, you know what the turning point of this whole thing was?
The turning point was I realized it was salt water and not fresh water.
So you know what salt water does to stuff, right?
It just kills everything.
So 90% of the car was kind of toast.
And I said to myself, all right, I'm going to call Tesla up, you know, buy a motor, buy a battery pack.
I'll be good.
You know what I mean?
Maybe I'll spend like 20 grand for a battery and like maybe 10 for a motor.
I'll be like for 40. It's still cheaper than 100, right?
So I called them up and, you know, they were like, hey, you know, how's it going, man?
I was like, hey, you know what?
Crazy thing happened, right?
So I bought this Tesla's underwater, and I need a couple of things.
I need a battery.
I need a motor.
Just throw me those things.
It's fine.
They're like, well, we're not going to sell it to you.
I was like, well, why not?
Because you have no capability of fixing the car yourself.
You're going to get yourself killed.
It's not going to work.
Give me your VIN number.
I gave them the VIN number.
They're like, no, that car's listed as salvaged.
That thing was underwater.
We're not going to help you.
And they just hung up the phone pretty much.
unidentified
Oh.
rich benoit
Yeah.
So this is the crazy part, too, is that they know...
I'm putting my conspiracy theorist hat on.
They know where every single car is.
They know what it's doing.
They know if the airbags went off.
They know if you farted at the front seat.
They know everything about these cars.
So pretty much when you give them the VIN number, the cars are always connected back to the mothership to give you the status in the car.
So they know what's going on.
So if you try to hide from them, you just can't do it.
So I had the car and I said to myself, you know what, this isn't going to work.
I've got to figure something out.
So what I did basically, I bought another car.
For $15,000.
And I was like, I gotta swap this stuff over.
So I swapped everything over.
joe rogan
So the other one that you bought for $15,000, everything worked?
rich benoit
Well, it was on a front-end collision.
It was on a hard front-end collision.
joe rogan
So the frame was bent or something?
rich benoit
The frame was bent.
The thing was toast.
And I just took all the electronics from one to the other.
joe rogan
How do you check to make sure that everything isn't damaged?
rich benoit
That's a good thing.
A lot of the wiring harnesses were cut in the front-end collision car, but the interesting part was that in the flooded car, the wiring harnesses were still good for the most part in the front.
unidentified
Really?
rich benoit
So what I did was, meaning not broken or torn or having bent connectors, I just took those connectors off and actually cleaned them because I couldn't get parts from Tesla.
I took the wet wiring harnesses that were all corroded, pulled them out, got a Q-tip, toothbrush, and all that stuff.
joe rogan
What do you clean them with?
rich benoit
So I clean them with baking soda and a wire brush.
And I got a toothpick, too, to really get in there and clean the contacts and stuff.
I just rinse them out with water.
joe rogan
By this time, your wife's probably like, what the fuck?
rich benoit
She's pissed.
She goes, I noticed we're missing $30,000 from our bank account.
joe rogan
And you got two cars that don't work.
rich benoit
Exactly.
Two cars that don't work.
And the $30,000 missing from our bank account.
Like, what's going on here?
So...
It was just, it was painstaking, but eventually, you know, I got the job done, man.
So what I ended up doing was, so, 30 grand, right?
I told my friends, hey, listen, you know, I'm in a mess here.
I'm rebuilding a Tesla.
And they're just like, you know, you're an idiot.
You're not going to figure this out.
Like, no one's doing that.
Because this was years ago.
This is when the cars were still kind of coming onto the scene and they weren't as popular as they are now.
And they're like, you can't fix that.
Like, you're an idiot.
You can't do that.
I've seen your work.
And so...
Yeah, so after a while, I took all the parts from one to the other, got one running, And then the parts I didn't need anymore, like the old battery pack.
So there were some parts of the battery that were still good.
So I actually sold those parts online and on eBay and stuff like that.
And then I sold the motor.
It had water in it.
Someone gave me five grand for a motor that had water in it.
That's how valuable these parts are.
joe rogan
Wow.
So was he planning on doing the same thing, cleaning it out?
rich benoit
I have no idea.
To this day, I don't know.
So I think he was in the same situation.
I think he brought it home to his wife.
He said, hey, look what I got.
It's probably still at his house.
And so after all that, sold all the parts, I ended up getting the car I have now for about six grand.
joe rogan
So you take the engine, and is that one of the four-wheel drive ones, the ones you have?
rich benoit
This was just the rear-wheel drive one.
joe rogan
So it has just the rear engine?
rich benoit
The single motor, yep.
joe rogan
One engine.
And so you take those out, you put it all back in, you replace the wires, and then it's good to go?
What about the computer?
Oh my gosh.
rich benoit
So pretty much, the computer thing was interesting because...
So I called Tesla again.
I was like, hey buddy, this car is like 99% of the way there.
joe rogan
Do they know who you are?
rich benoit
At this point, they still don't know who I am.
Nor do they care.
They still probably don't care who I am.
joe rogan
But did you say, hey man, remember you hung up on me like four months ago?
rich benoit
Yeah, right?
The car still doesn't work.
The car still didn't work.
So the tough part was I had to...
So remember, I had no key for the car.
joe rogan
Oh.
rich benoit
So I was like, hey, I need a key.
You know what I mean?
Like, help me out here.
I need a key.
And they were like, well, are you the same idiot that called?
I'm like, yeah, I need the key.
They're like, we can't, as I stated before, we can't help you because, you know, this is a salvage car, so you're on your own.
So what I did was I actually, in the GPS screen, because the screen turned on, the guy still had the home location.
So I pushed home on the GPS screen, found the guy's address.
unidentified
Right?
rich benoit
This is creepy.
It gets creepy.
I found the guy's address and I was like, hey, you know, can we...
I called him up.
I was like, hey, did you own a white Tesla by chance?
And he's like, yeah, I own one.
I was like, yeah.
So I bought it and I need the key.
Do you have the key to the car?
And he's like, no, I don't have that.
What are you calling me for?
I don't understand.
He's like, well, I'm rebuilding it.
I'm putting the electronics from your car into another.
And I want to figure it out.
And he's like, you know what?
I can't help you.
I don't have the key.
And I was like, damn, it sucks.
I have a family and stuff.
And, you know, I really kind of gave him the sob story.
Like, you know, if you could really look for it and help me out, it'd be good.
And we started talking about general topics.
And he's like, you know, I know you're a car guy.
That's awesome.
I had a Z06 once.
And I was like, hey, I have a Z06 too.
And he's like, yeah, it was Le Mans Blue.
And I was like, hey, mine's Le Mans Blue.
And he's like, what year is it?
I was like, it's an 06. He goes, I sold...
That same car or car like it, like two years ago, to a guy in Florida.
I was like, I bought the car from a guy in Florida.
So we started bonding, so it turns out I actually owned his old Z06. That's insane.
Yeah, it's crazy, right?
joe rogan
What are the odds that two human beings on the planet, you own both of this guy's cars?
rich benoit
Both of his guys' cars.
That's insane.
It was insane.
So he's like, listen, he goes, awesome, you know, I'll see if I could find the key.
joe rogan
Are you friends with that dude now?
rich benoit
No, we never talked again after that.
joe rogan
Seems like you should be friends.
rich benoit
Well, here's the reason why.
Well, number one, it was super creepy for me to call the guy.
Number two, when I went kind of silent for a week, he called me back and said, buddy, I found the key.
I found the key to the car.
I was like, awesome, dude.
You're fantastic.
I'm going to send you an envelope to your address so you could kind of give me the key.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, great, great, great.
How about like $600?
And I was like, Broheim, we just bonded over the fact that I own both of your cars.
What are you doing to me here?
$600 for the key.
And remember, to a lot of people, that's nothing.
But to me, I was trying to be cheap and scrappy.
$600 is a bit much.
joe rogan
$600 is $600.
rich benoit
Yeah, that's a bit much.
joe rogan
That's a lot of money.
rich benoit
And I was like, hey...
The key didn't exist to you as of like a week ago.
But now you can make money from it.
Like now you want to try your 600 bucks?
And he's just like, you know, da-da-da.
She started talking again.
And he goes, how about 400 bucks?
And I was like, you know what, guy?
I'll just give you the money.
Just take the damn money.
unidentified
Blood money.
rich benoit
Yeah, right.
Exactly, right?
So I sold my soul pretty much.
joe rogan
No, he did.
He's got that blood money.
rich benoit
No, but I feel like I shouldn't have taken it.
joe rogan
I would have rubbed that money on my balls, put it in an envelope, and go, here you go, bro.
rich benoit
Make sure you sniff that $100 bill first.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
I mean, it's like...
I get it.
He's just being a dirtbag.
rich benoit
Right.
But after that, he got the key.
And that's what it is.
And then the car's running and driving today.
joe rogan
So as soon as you got the key, you're good.
Do you have one key or two?
rich benoit
Just one.
If I lose that, I'm screwed.
joe rogan
Can you make it...
Does the phone work, like your app, does it work on the car?
rich benoit
Nope.
joe rogan
Damn.
rich benoit
No.
joe rogan
That's big.
The app is big.
That's huge.
rich benoit
Yeah.
unidentified
It's cool.
joe rogan
When you get the car to come to you.
rich benoit
You can summon it.
joe rogan
Come to daddy.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
You can park like literally with an inch on each side.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And you can come to daddy.
rich benoit
That's the problem is that I feel like with the Tesla, because I have a Model X now.
So I have the SUV now.
And that's the ultimate flex.
joe rogan
Tiffany Haddish had one, and she had it in the parking lot of the comedy store, and she had it dancing, and we were filming it.
rich benoit
The doors kind of go up and down and stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah, to the music, and she's out in front of the car dancing, and her and I are dancing, and everybody's dancing, and they're filming it.
It was a hilarious moment.
rich benoit
And it's funny, because I found myself...
I feel like this car's ruined me as a person.
I'm a typically pretty humble person, but having a Tesla, the fact that you could push a button, and the car comes to you...
It's a douchebag move because honestly, we were getting into our cars like peasants for years.
And one day I was at the gym and I was looking at my car from a distance and I was like, you know what?
I really don't feel like walking all the way to my car today.
joe rogan
How far?
rich benoit
It was probably like the distance from you to me.
It wasn't really that far.
It was like a glass in between us.
And I was like, you know what?
joe rogan
Come to daddy.
rich benoit
Come to daddy.
Push the button.
The car just backed out.
Everyone's like, whoa, that car's driving itself.
I was like, yeah, that's me.
Pushed the button, opened the door, got in.
I just drove off.
joe rogan
Yeah, when I take it and I put it in auto drive, that's when it really freaks me out.
rich benoit
Yeah.
Do you use that often?
Often.
joe rogan
Yeah, it scares me.
It scares me, but I keep my hands right there, but it is freaky.
rich benoit
Has it tried to kill you yet?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
Okay, that's good.
It's coming.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
I'm just joking.
joe rogan
I always keep my hand there.
I always keep my hand there.
But I'm always...
The one thing I'm concerned with is that I think I'm lowering my guard.
rich benoit
Yes, absolutely.
joe rogan
I'm letting the car do too much.
rich benoit
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Because when you drive, one of the reasons for road rage is when we're driving around, we don't know who the fuck's next to us.
And we're going very fast, and it requires the ability to think really quickly, so your brain is in a heightened state of awareness.
And then someone does something stupid like, this motherfucker!
You fucking asshole!
rich benoit
You get rage, man.
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's where the rage comes from.
But it lightens that almost maybe too much.
Because I think you do need to be at least aware that some shit could happen at any moment when cars are flying by you going 75 miles an hour.
rich benoit
So you don't take your hands fully off?
unidentified
No, I don't.
rich benoit
You just let the car drive itself?
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just put my hand on it.
I don't take my hands fully off.
But if you do, you can only do it for so long and it'll start to warn you.
rich benoit
It's not to complain like, hey, what's going on here, buddy?
joe rogan
But apparently some dudes tried...
They said that didn't work.
I talked to one of those dudes who did that experiment.
Apparently that experiment didn't work.
rich benoit
The orange, yeah.
I think the orange...
I think that might work, man.
joe rogan
I think what does work better is they said a lightweight.
If you take a lightweight and put it on a rubber band and you hang it...
rich benoit
You know what's funny?
There was a guy that was selling that.
You hear about that?
unidentified
No.
rich benoit
He was selling...
It looked like a...
It was basically like a weight that went around the steering wheel, and it actually had the perfect amount of weight balance to make you think that your hand was still on the wheel.
People were buying it.
joe rogan
There it is.
Tesla Autoplay buddy hat to a good nag.
Relaunches as a phone mount.
rich benoit
Yeah.
So he had that, right?
He was selling it, and it was like 300 bucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
And then, you know, they were like, that's illegal.
You can't do that.
You're bypassing like a safety device of the car.
So then what he did was he came back again with a vengeance and made it a phone mount.
joe rogan
He's clever.
rich benoit
He's clever, yeah.
joe rogan
That's a smart move, although I'm not sure I support it.
rich benoit
Yeah, I don't think I do either.
That's kind of, that's a little bit much.
joe rogan
I don't think it's ready for that.
It weirds me out.
It weirds me out because the other thing is the other people are not...
Going with auto-drive so you're around you're going auto-drive and all these other people are just driving yeah, and I think when everyone's driving together You kind of in tune with each other.
Oh this asshole is trying to go really fast.
Yeah, right get the fuck I'm gonna overtake this guy, right?
Yeah, let me pass this guy you're aware of when you're just when you're auto-driving it's like you're like a like a assist right in this moving yeah Like, ecosystem of thinking.
Like, all these people be calculating each other.
But it's probably, ultimately, like, if you talk to Elon, he says it's way safer, and that it's the future.
rich benoit
I 100% agree with him.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
But he obviously hates fun.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because why would you do that to the world?
rich benoit
Don't forget, right?
Elon can talk all the shit he wants.
Remember, he had a McLaren F1. Yes, he did.
joe rogan
And he still has a Jaguar E-Type, one of those really old ones, like a 69 with the long shark nose.
rich benoit
The long hood, yeah.
He still got that.
So he, at heart, he knows the deal.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
He didn't make that car that fast for a practicality.
rich benoit
No, it makes no sense.
joe rogan
The same reason he made a fucking blowtorch.
rich benoit
He's crazy.
joe rogan
He's a silly person.
rich benoit
At least it's not a flamethrower, we know that.
joe rogan
It's not.
rich benoit
Definitely not a flamethrower.
joe rogan
He's a silly super genius, is what he is.
In all the best ways.
rich benoit
Yes, right.
Only good ways.
I never say anything bad about him.
I love the guy.
joe rogan
I'm so glad he's alive.
I am.
I'm glad he's a real thing.
rich benoit
No, honestly, and I always agree, I get a lot of crap from people online saying I'm an Elon Musk hater, I'm a Tesla hater.
I could be critical sometimes, you know what I mean?
But it's like, the guy's a damn genius, man.
joe rogan
He's a damn genius.
rich benoit
He's a damn genius.
joe rogan
And critical is important.
Guys like you are important.
It's very important to hear what other people think if it's reasoned and intelligent.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Like, it helps you even if you don't like hearing it.
rich benoit
Right, so I gotta keep, I mean, he's a genius, but sometimes you gotta keep the company in check.
The cars are phenomenal cars.
joe rogan
They're phenomenal cars.
And they weren't always.
rich benoit
No, absolutely not.
joe rogan
Yeah, and what they were when they first came out, like, were you aware of the whole thing with Top Gear?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
That was crazy.
rich benoit
Yeah, they were being shady.
joe rogan
They were super shady.
rich benoit
Yeah, they were running the car down.
joe rogan
They pretended the car died.
rich benoit
They wanted to bash the car as much as they could, but for stuff like that, I'll stick up and say, yo, hey, you can't keep doing that.
And he got pissed.
He loves it.
That's his baby.
joe rogan
Yeah, he sued them.
unidentified
That's his baby.
joe rogan
I think he lost.
Really?
Because I think the way their show is structured...
That was...
rich benoit
It's entertainment.
joe rogan
Yes, it's entertainment and fiction.
But it's incredibly damaging to the company because it made it look like...
I don't know why they did that.
There's a couple things that Top Gear did, but I was like, why would you do that?
rich benoit
But some people remember, their focus is on petrol or gas-powered cars.
Like when an EV comes along and it's actually pretty damn good, in a lot of cases people are just like, "Shit, you can't let this thing win." Especially back in the day when that was going on.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
That was a long time ago, right?
Yeah, that was in 2012, I think.
Yeah, 2013.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So you get the key from this guy's car.
You can't use the app.
So you have to rely on the software in the state that it's at.
There's no software updates?
rich benoit
No.
So here's the long story.
So get the car going.
Everything's great.
In order to get masked from the Tesla system, so there's a certain system that Tesla knows where all their cars are, and they could disable whatever they want.
They could do whatever they want.
joe rogan
They could shut you down?
rich benoit
Exactly.
So I had to reach out to this Tesla black hat hacker pretty much.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
You had to go to the dark web?
rich benoit
I had to go to the deep dark web.
Damn.
And he was able to mask Tesla from seeing the car, which is why I can't have the Tesla app.
unidentified
Oh.
rich benoit
So he masked that.
joe rogan
So he got into the actual software itself?
rich benoit
Into the actual software itself.
The guy's a genius.
His name is Phil.
joe rogan
Switched one to zero?
rich benoit
Exactly.
He flipped the bit, and then it was able to be, the car could supercharge, the car could do everything.
joe rogan
Wow.
rich benoit
And the car gets updates, too.
It's great.
joe rogan
Oh, it does?
rich benoit
It does get updates, yeah.
joe rogan
And Tesla doesn't know it's getting updates?
rich benoit
No, you know what's funny?
joe rogan
Maybe we shouldn't say this.
rich benoit
Yeah, I'm just kidding.
No, they know the deal.
And here's the problem with that is that people love these cars a lot, man.
They love these cars.
You know, hence me.
I'm picking the car of like a dirty lake.
You know what I mean?
And fixing this thing.
You know what I mean?
So a lot of the times it's in their best interest, I believe, to help people out a little bit.
But no, the things that people go through for these cars is insane, man.
People just love them.
joe rogan
My take on it is that what they have is this ingenious company with this mad genius scientist who's running it who does a million other things at the same time.
And they don't have enough people to deal with someone like you.
They probably just don't.
They don't have a section of the company to deal with someone like you.
You remember when he was working, when they were trying to put out the Model 3 and he was working 16 hours a day and sleeping on the floor of the factory?
rich benoit
Yeah, pretty much.
joe rogan
Shit, that don't make any sense.
rich benoit
You know what's funny?
It doesn't make any sense, but people love the company.
They love this guy.
So, speaking of that, when he was working 16 hours a day and he was sleeping on the floor in the factory, right?
It was a big sob story, a billionaire sleeping on the floor in the factory.
A bunch of Tesla owners rallied together and they purchased a couch for him to sleep on.
Like tens of thousands of dollars.
joe rogan
What kind of couch is this?
rich benoit
It must have been a nice ass couch.
joe rogan
Crazy couch.
rich benoit
Yeah, but either way, like they rallied and they purchased a couch for him.
And like, I made a video on it and I said to myself, you know what?
This guy's a billionaire.
Yeah.
But the fact that everyone rallied together to help this guy, to show that there's support.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
People are hands over fists for this company, man.
joe rogan
They are.
It reminds me of Apple.
Back in the day.
You know, I remember there was a guy, God bless his heart, who was one of the editors on news radio, the sitcom that I was on in the 90s, and he was such an apple head that he was like, he was talking about it like it was a sports team.
He was talking about it, well, I think we're really going to get those PC guys when the new MacBooks come out.
But he really said something to that...
Along those lines, I think we're really going to pull ahead.
rich benoit
Like, who's we?
unidentified
We.
joe rogan
Mac users.
unidentified
We're all together.
What are you doing, we?
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were on this weird little tribe Mac.
rich benoit
And this is the same thing, but you know what?
Picture the Apple fanboys, the Tesla fanboys, times 10. Yeah, they live in it.
joe rogan
It's like an Apple you live in.
rich benoit
It's times 10. They're driving to work in it.
Because Apple has the technology aspect of it.
Like, it's great.
Android sucks.
I have an Apple phone.
Okay, perfect, perfect.
But for Teslas, you're talking about technology.
So you have the tech nerds.
You're talking about sustainability as well for the green people.
So you have the tech and the green people.
And once they join forces, so the scariest force on the earth, right?
It isn't like war, like guns and stuff.
It's actually a Mac-owning Tesla vegan owner, pretty much.
It's the scariest thing in the world.
It really is the scariest thing in the world.
Because they'll tell you all about it at a party.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Yeah, you get cornered.
rich benoit
They get cornered.
And I've struggled with that in a lot of cases because whenever I say something remotely negative about Tesla, like, hey, I think Tesla could do a better job here.
They're just like, you're just a gas head.
I know you own a Z06. You work for big oil.
Someone accused me of working for big oil.
joe rogan
Oh, you do?
rich benoit
Yeah.
What do you do for them?
How do you work for big oil?
joe rogan
You can tell me, bro.
rich benoit
What does that mean you work for big oil?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're a part of the Illuminati.
rich benoit
Yeah, pretty much.
That's what it is.
joe rogan
You work for big oil.
rich benoit
How do I work for big oil?
What does that mean?
joe rogan
What does that mean?
How much could they pay you, too?
First of all, before people would realize it, all of a sudden you're walking around with diamond chains on and shit.
rich benoit
Like a big Rolex hat.
joe rogan
You move to a giant mansion.
Are you still fixing cars?
rich benoit
Yeah, right.
unidentified
Do you work Well, uh, you know, I got another thing going on.
rich benoit
Yeah, right, right.
joe rogan
I'm making billions for big oil.
rich benoit
Yeah, buy a gas car.
Go to Shell.
Shell's great.
joe rogan
I don't understand how people think that whole shill thing works.
That you just get, like, a monthly check.
rich benoit
I don't understand.
Like, hey, Rich, say something negative about Tesla every once in a while.
We'll give you a check for 20 grand a month.
joe rogan
Gotta get that big oil check.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I suspect that what it is is similar to what my friend who was really addicted to Apple.
I think you just get on your tribe and that's my thing.
I'm all about Apple.
rich benoit
And that's your camp.
joe rogan
Windows are bullshit.
Windows is bullshit.
unidentified
Ew.
It's disgusting.
joe rogan
Why would you want to play?
What are you going to fuck with the config files?
Get in there and use DOS? Get out of here.
rich benoit
Yeah, you loser.
joe rogan
You loser.
rich benoit
But it's interesting because people like us are very different because...
We could appreciate both.
You have a phenomenal collection of cars.
joe rogan
Thank you.
rich benoit
And then you threw a Tesla in there, but you love both.
You love the driving aspect of your Porsche.
You love the silence and the 0-60 of your Tesla, too.
We could be part of both camps, but in a lot of cases, it's Camp Tesla, and if you're not with us, you're against us.
joe rogan
Silly.
Yeah, I have a Windows laptop, and I have an Apple laptop.
rich benoit
Oh, you do?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have both.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you know why?
rich benoit
Why?
joe rogan
Because Windows has more options, and when you have more options, you get better configurations.
You get better keyboards.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Like, I have a Lenovo ThinkPad.
rich benoit
Oh, look at you.
joe rogan
Dude, they're the shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's way better to write on.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Like, the tactile feedback and the travel distance and the keys is so much longer.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You just know where you're typing.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And for me, as a writer, when I'm writing, like I'm writing stand-up or something like that, it requires less thinking.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because my fingers just find the keys easier.
I mean like 10% plus easier.
And I bought an older Apple laptop too.
I bought a 2015, a refurbished one, because their keyboards were superior.
rich benoit
Yes, the new ones are so low profile.
unidentified
They're terrible.
joe rogan
They're terrible.
It's the shittiest fucking keyboard of any computer that you can buy today is a new MacBook Pro.
rich benoit
And they got busted for that because now, because their keyboards are so shitty, you have to take them back now.
They're doing recalls on the keyboards.
joe rogan
Well, they do have a new patent that they put out for a variable height keyboard where the key travel will vary and the key resistance will vary.
rich benoit
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a new patent that they filed for.
It doesn't necessarily mean they even have the technology for it.
rich benoit
Right.
That sounds expensive.
I don't know why.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, if it's something you could press with a button that just raises the keys up, that would be like a solution.
Because if you think about the flatness of the key, the idea is they want to keep a low profile to this laptop or make it thin and sexy, which is like fucking weird.
Whatever.
I don't have the ThinkPad with me, but I have the X1 Carbon.
It's super thin.
And it weighs nothing.
And the battery life is excellent.
rich benoit
It lasts like six months.
joe rogan
Dude, it's a fucking great laptop.
So Apple, they're just only Apple.
And the problem with that one company only selling laptops is you just don't have enough variety.
There's not enough people that are offering challenges to it.
They don't have any challenges.
In fact, their biggest challenge is the Huawei MateBook.
Huawei basically stole their idea, but made it way better.
They made, oh, I see what you guys are doing.
You guys are fucking up.
We're going to do that too.
We're going to make it with better keys.
We're going to have no bezels on the side of the screen.
And you know, everyone's concerned about security.
Well, we're just going to have the webcam pop up as a key.
Have you seen that one?
rich benoit
No, I haven't.
unidentified
Dude, it's dope.
rich benoit
That sounds next level shit.
I want to see that.
joe rogan
Huawei.
Am I saying that right?
That's it.
Come on, bro.
rich benoit
Oh, shoot.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
That's dope as fuck.
Look, no bezels.
No bezels.
No room for the webcam.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it has great keyboard travel, too.
I think it's like 1.5 millimeter key travel.
Which, if you're a person who writes all the time, I need to get my thoughts out.
I'm stupid, man.
rich benoit
Do you write a lot?
joe rogan
Do you write a lot?
I write a lot.
Stand up.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I just write things and I extract stand up from them.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
But when I write, I don't need to be fucking with the keys, man.
rich benoit
So why do you use your Mac, then?
You list all these pros about the PC, but why do you buy a Mac?
joe rogan
Because I like to have both.
I use that when I travel, because I don't write as much when I travel, but I like to watch movies and shit.
rich benoit
Oh, look at that!
joe rogan
Yeah, pops up.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
How about that?
jamie vernon
The F6 key or something?
joe rogan
It looks right up your nose, son.
rich benoit
That's pretty wild.
No, but that's good because the biggest thing is like when you're, you probably have like a Skype meetings or whatever, or Google Hangouts.
The worst thing in the world is like the camera turning on automatically.
joe rogan
That's a lie right there.
That image is a lie.
Let me see.
rich benoit
Go back.
joe rogan
That is not what it looks like.
rich benoit
Yeah, I know.
That's impossible.
That's not even the right viewpoint.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
rich benoit
No one's that good looking either.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's pretty hot.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it does pop up, man.
rich benoit
That's insane.
So that's the thing, because it looks just like a Mac.
joe rogan
Yep, it looks just like a Mac, except it has more key travel, more comfortable, and that upper right-hand corner, that power button, is also a fingerprint reader.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Fuck it!
rich benoit
I'm going to buy one right now.
joe rogan
They're the shit.
I would use one.
rich benoit
But you don't have one?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
Why not?
joe rogan
But I have a Lenovo.
rich benoit
Lenovo, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Which is great.
Whatever.
I mean, this is just...
It's all just better options.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
The only difference is Windows is not as good as Mac OS. But it's not that much worse.
rich benoit
No, it's really not.
joe rogan
It's pretty fucking close.
Windows 10 is pretty fucking good.
jamie vernon
I didn't see what this runs.
What is it running?
Windows or something?
joe rogan
It's Windows.
unidentified
Windows 10. Windows?
rich benoit
Yeah, Windows.
joe rogan
Windows 10. Yeah.
rich benoit
Sure, it's not Android?
No, that's quite no sense.
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
It would have to be one of those Chromebooks if it was going to run Android, which apparently is very good, too.
rich benoit
But the Chromebook designs are really nice, too.
joe rogan
Very nice.
rich benoit
They're super nice.
joe rogan
And you can get one super cheap.
rich benoit
Right, and the battery lasts like three months.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
That's forever.
joe rogan
And if you're just putting documents, you put them in your Google Docs in the cloud, you pull it up instantaneously.
rich benoit
Go on Drive?
No, it's great, man.
joe rogan
But Huawei's a weird company, man.
Like, I don't know what I feel about them.
I'm buying into all this government propaganda about the Chinese spying on us.
rich benoit
Yeah, it's definitely spying on you, for sure.
joe rogan
Well, dude, I've had my credit card stolen, my number stolen three times this year.
rich benoit
Why?
How?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
rich benoit
It's never happened to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, well.
rich benoit
I think the more money you have, the more stuff you get stolen.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Yeah, maybe people find out.
It's annoying, though.
Like, I got a charge, but I have an app on my phone that shows me the charge, and it was during a podcast.
Well, I'm like, well, that definitely wasn't me.
rich benoit
Yeah, no, definitely not.
joe rogan
They get you with, like, $10 ones.
Like, a little $3, $10.
rich benoit
To test the waters.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Quad microphones accurately pick up sound from four meters away with a Huawei.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Is that real?
jamie vernon
They're spying on you, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
What they're not telling you is the microphones are always active.
Always on.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just like your phone?
rich benoit
They're always listening to you.
joe rogan
Government, bro.
Translate.
jamie vernon
It's multiple people.
joe rogan
Oh, great.
Microsoft Translator.
rich benoit
You hear about the new TVs.
You hear about the LG TVs that were constantly listening to conversations.
joe rogan
Wonderful.
rich benoit
And they told you, if you want to have a private, confidential conversation, don't have it in front of the TV. That's what they were basically saying.
joe rogan
What if you bang your wife in front of the TV? That's interesting.
Yeah.
Does it have cameras on them?
rich benoit
They have cameras too, yeah.
I think it live streams that.
I think it's like a sex mode.
joe rogan
After a while, everyone's just going to watch everybody do everything.
I really think within a hundred years, that's going to be the case.
rich benoit
That's the case now, man.
unidentified
But I think it's kind of like...
rich benoit
Vloggers and like, you know, I'm on YouTube.
You know how that goes.
Everyone wants to see, oh, what are you doing now?
What are you doing now?
I didn't get a video last week.
What's going on?
What are you doing now?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
You know?
joe rogan
It's...
But what we accept is way different than what our parents accepted or what their parents accepted.
And I think what our children accept is going to be way different.
And then what their children accept is going to be...
We're like two, three generations from it just being ridiculous, where there's no privacy.
rich benoit
How do you distance yourself?
Because you're a public figure, right?
How do you distance yourself?
Where do you draw the line for privacy, I guess you could say?
joe rogan
The real problem is when you're eating, man.
When people, like, come up to you while you have, like, I'll have a kid in my lap, and I'll be eating food and talking to the kid, and someone will literally come up to me and try to take a picture with me, ask me to take a picture with me.
I'm like, come on, man.
We're all out eating at a restaurant.
This is like, you know, just say hi.
Just say hi, man.
And I always tell people, when I'm done, I'm leaving, I'll take a picture with you.
But you can't.
You can't just interrupt dinner.
rich benoit
That's insane, man.
joe rogan
But it's just people think like if they don't get a picture with you right now, I've got to get it right now.
Now, now, now.
unidentified
Fuck it, I don't care.
joe rogan
I'm going in.
I'm going to ask them.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And they don't care.
I mean, and then they'll say, hey, that's the price you pay for being famous.
rich benoit
It's like, no, come on, guys.
joe rogan
That's not true.
That's crazy.
Look, this is the deal.
The deal is someone provides something that you enjoy, whether it's stand-up or a thing, and I appreciate that you enjoy it.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
But that's our exchange.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
All the other stuff...
rich benoit
I don't owe you anything else.
joe rogan
It's like meeting me at a restaurant and shit when I'm eating with my kid.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, come on, man.
You're asking for too much.
This is ridiculous.
rich benoit
Well, here's another question for you.
What kind of restaurants do you eat at where people feel they need to come up to you?
It was a regular restaurant.
Do you get a high-end, right?
Like Applebee's and stuff?
unidentified
High-end.
joe rogan
High-end Applebee's.
rich benoit
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
I eat regular places.
Normal spots.
It's not normal that someone does that.
Most people are super respectful.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But all it takes is one out of a hundred.
rich benoit
True.
joe rogan
And the night just gets weird, you know?
And most people don't.
Most people are cool, but it's every now and then people just have this idea that somehow or another you have to, if you are a famous person, you have to abandon everything.
That's the other thing, that you're not a person anymore.
You're like a famous person.
It's like the regular rules of meeting someone don't apply.
You would never just barge in on a regular person that you didn't know.
But if it's a regular famous person, people, they don't give a fuck.
rich benoit
Oh, this is fine.
joe rogan
You could be having a conversation where you and your friend are both crying and talking about someone that died.
People don't give a fuck.
Hey, man, I'm sorry to interrupt, bro.
Do I get that picture?
Do I get that picture, bro?
rich benoit
Damn.
joe rogan
Do I get that picture, bro?
rich benoit
So what's the weirdest interaction you've had with someone?
joe rogan
It's mostly just that kind of stuff.
Oh, no.
The weirdest shit is people that tell me that they're going to give me secrets.
Like UFO-type stuff, Bigfoot, and I know where the bases are.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Those motherfuckers, yeah, schizos.
I've had a few of those.
rich benoit
At restaurants?
Or just walking down the street?
joe rogan
No, just usually at comedy shows.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, usually at comedy shows.
rich benoit
Do you ever walk down the street?
That's a weird thing I just asked you.
I mean, because like when...
You're always either driving, you're going somewhere.
You ever go for a casual walk?
joe rogan
Not around...
Well, I do.
I walk my dog.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
But no, I don't walk around L.A. Nobody does.
Nobody walks in L.A. There's like pockets of walking in L.A. Okay, so time out real quick.
unidentified
Okay.
rich benoit
Real quick story.
We're talking with Rich.
So I landed.
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
You know Boston.
You know the deal in Boston.
So I landed and a buddy of mine picked me up from the airport and I got to where I was staying.
I was staying in the Mission District.
joe rogan
And you're like, look at all the sun, first of all.
rich benoit
It was freaking great.
The sun was awesome, right?
I was like, oh my gosh, sun.
joe rogan
No gray skies.
rich benoit
And then I looked down.
Literally homeless people everywhere.
What is going on with that?
It blew my mind because...
Literally, so I went to the gym in the morning, and I was like at 7 a.m., and I saw probably just as many homeless people living in tents next to buildings as there were people commuting to work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Like thousands.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
rich benoit
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Have you been to Skid Row yet?
rich benoit
No.
God, I'm scared.
joe rogan
Dude, you got to go.
You should go while you're here because it's like the Grand Canyon.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
It's like the Grand Canyon of homeless people.
rich benoit
Why would I want to go there?
joe rogan
Because you can't believe the...
It's like...
Did you watch the Battle of Winterfell?
Game of Thrones?
rich benoit
No.
Don't tell me.
joe rogan
No spoiler alerts.
rich benoit
No.
joe rogan
I won't give any spoiler alerts.
I'll have to come up with a better...
Okay.
Here's a better analogy.
Did you ever see I Am Legend?
rich benoit
Yes.
joe rogan
Okay.
Remember when all the fucking crazy zombie people are running at once?
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what it's like.
rich benoit
Are you serious?
joe rogan
I'm telling you, you can't believe the volume.
rich benoit
Doesn't someone even like...
In Boston, listen.
joe rogan
They freeze to death and die, right?
rich benoit
Yes, exactly.
So no, in Boston, we hide our homeless people.
We have like shelters and stuff.
We hide them.
For the most part, you know, Downtown Crossing, Area Park Street, whatever.
They're like the junkies that like have that, the whole gangster lean.
They just lean and close their eyes and stuff.
unidentified
Right, right.
rich benoit
For the most part, right?
And then we, you know, it gets cold.
They scatter.
I don't know where they go, but you don't really see them that much.
You know, I'm not being rude.
Like, I don't mind seeing them.
It's great.
But like, in Sanford, they're in your face, man.
Like you, I've...
If...
joe rogan
San Francisco is the craziest.
rich benoit
It was insane.
So like, honestly, and I know one of my friends, he said, listen, you know, come to my house, you know, whatever, we're going to hang out for a bit, school, no problem.
Went to his house, like, you know, small place, not about a thousand square feet.
I'm like, pretty nice.
He goes, yeah, you know, I'm kind of, you know, things are a little tough.
Can I, you know, can I borrow some money?
I was like, borrow money from me?
What are you talking about, dude?
This is, you live in, you know, you're doing okay.
He's like, yeah, I live in paycheck to paycheck.
I was like, what?
What are you talking about?
I'm like, this is a, this is like, you know, you got a decent place.
The house that we were in was a $1.6 million house and it was this big.
unidentified
And I'm like, everything's expensive, man.
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
rich benoit
And then another friend of mine said, listen, hey, come to my house, you know, and I pull up to the house.
It's a warehouse.
Like, they live in a warehouse.
joe rogan
That's actually cool.
You can live like Blade.
unidentified
Remember?
joe rogan
Wesley Snipes lives with Chris Christopherson.
rich benoit
You're right, you're right.
joe rogan
He had the motorcycle.
He had the fucking charger, the Dodge Charger.
rich benoit
But it sounds cool.
When you have kids, living in a warehouse isn't that great.
joe rogan
No way, no.
rich benoit
So that's the thing.
It's a common thing, I've noticed, for people to live in either abandoned buildings, warehouses, and cars.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
You know how people that live in cars, and the amount of smashed windows that I've seen here, it's...
I couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
Well, most of those people living in cars are actually stand-up comedians.
In LA, everybody has a fucking story.
So many comics come here, and when they first settle in, they live in their car.
That's super normal.
rich benoit
That's just crazy.
joe rogan
Maybe like 10 of my friends lived in their car.
rich benoit
Literally live in cars.
joe rogan
Or used to, at least, and then got an apartment eventually.
rich benoit
Got a bigger car.
joe rogan
Well, that's an issue we're having around here.
We're having around here with these people that live in caravans.
They live in these mobile home things.
rich benoit
I've seen them, yeah.
joe rogan
Yes.
If you drive around this community, you go down certain streets and you just see these mobile homes.
rich benoit
Massive caravans, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they have towels over the windows.
rich benoit
I saw that.
joe rogan
They're cooking meth inside of them.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Bro, these are dirty people, some of these fuckers.
rich benoit
I don't...
So how come...
Again, in Boston, we just kind of say, hey, there's no likely no loitering.
joe rogan
Well, they're kicking people out now because businesses are complaining because there was one business where this guy had parked his caravan right in front of it.
This is where a buddy of mine works.
And this dude had laid out his blanket on their front lawn and was sunning himself in front of his caravan.
So the front of his building became this guy's lawn.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So this guy in this caravan was literally using...
They were sharing grass.
So he's got this multi-million dollar building, and he's sharing it with a homeless guy who's cooking meth.
Or I don't know if it's meth, but it's some white, noxious smoke that comes out of the fucking place.
rich benoit
I couldn't...
So it's...
It was different for me.
The weather's awesome, but that was a big thing.
And I feel like, as I'm walking around more, if I see a large standing body of water, I'm like, there's a homeless guy living there, too?
People are just everywhere.
joe rogan
They're everywhere.
I'm telling you, what you saw is nothing.
Well, you've got to go to Skid Row.
What is this?
rich benoit
Is that Skid Row?
jamie vernon
Skid Row.
This is Google Maps.
Skid Row.
I just started snooping around.
joe rogan
They must have cleaned it up right before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
That ain't shit.
joe rogan
That ain't shit.
Let me tell you something, man.
Look at that.
Look at all that to the right and to the left.
It's fucking crazy.
rich benoit
So how do people...
Some people have businesses there.
joe rogan
They don't.
Or they just deal with it.
They just deal with it, most of them.
Most of those people, they just put all, like, gates and locks and shit and deal with it.
rich benoit
So what's on Skid Row business-wise?
joe rogan
Back up where you just were, Jamie?
Where you just were?
Well, it's a lot of warehouses and shit.
But the interesting thing is this area is getting, air quotes, gentrified.
So this is where a lot of businesses are going now.
They're opening up apartment buildings.
A buddy of mine has lived there.
My friend Magnus, Magnus Walker, he's a famous car guy too.
I don't know if you know who he is.
He's got all these videos of Porsches.
He rebuilds old Porsches.
He's got these crazy dreadlocks and beard and crazy Englishmen.
But he's been living down there forever.
And he has this warehouse where he has it set up where his living space is one part of the warehouse and then down below he has these cars.
And he has it all set up.
But if you drive down some of these roads, you'll see these super expensive apartment buildings that are going up now.
And then a block over, you'll see these homeless encampments.
And people think it's cute to be around all this dirt.
What is this?
There we go.
Nice.
So that's someone's apartment.
rich benoit
What's going on here?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They just set up tents, and then the cops kick them out, and they just come back, and they move, and then they come back.
But they make these encampments, and you just have to deal with it.
So it's like, if you live in that area, you just have to jump over needles and try to figure your way through it.
I feel terrible, because most of this is either drug addiction or mental illness.
Those are the real problems.
rich benoit
Do you guys have no drug addiction or mental illness, like, places that you could go to for help here?
joe rogan
I don't I don't know what it is, man.
I don't know enough about it.
I'm entirely ignorant about what's going on.
I know that if you talk to people that work in the field, that work with these folks, they say that it all really started to happen.
Look at this guy.
He's like, run over my legs.
Fuck, and I need disability.
rich benoit
Oh my goodness, man.
That's crazy.
People laying on the street.
Honestly, if you were to take a screenshot of what you just showed me, I'd be like, okay, that's some third world country.
This is LA. People can't even afford to live in LA. I know.
joe rogan
It might as well be a third world country, though.
I mean, it might as well be the apocalypse.
It's the apocalypse for those folks.
I mean, at least they're around all these cars and shit, but I mean, there are thousands of homeless people in that whole Skid Row area.
jamie vernon
They're right next to the Mission there.
joe rogan
Yes, that's one of the things that keeps them there, I guess.
rich benoit
Well, they have like four beds or like three beds in the whole thing?
unidentified
I don't know, man.
rich benoit
That's wild, man.
joe rogan
But they allow most of this to go on.
I don't know how often they break it up and make people move, but the numbers are so high, there's not much they can do.
rich benoit
Man, that's crazy.
That's sad, man.
unidentified
It's sad.
rich benoit
That's super sad.
joe rogan
But what do you do?
How do you fix that?
Like, I don't have any solution.
I mean, you can't tell people this shit.
What is that?
jamie vernon
It's a documentary.
Do you remember Proz from the Fugees?
rich benoit
Yeah, yeah, Proz.
jamie vernon
He went and spent three days down there undercover in quotes where he had people filming him, experiencing it, and then he'd come back and do an interview of what he just went through and It came out 10 years ago, so it's different.
I'm assuming it's worse now, but it's definitely not good in this documentary.
rich benoit
It's crazy.
So I was on my one wheel, right?
Just riding by.
I was commuting back and forth.
joe rogan
By the way, that thing is badass.
rich benoit
It's pretty crazy, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I rode yours today.
rich benoit
You did ride mine.
It was good.
joe rogan
And after watching you scoot around effortlessly, I was like, how hard could it be?
rich benoit
You need one.
unidentified
You should get one.
joe rogan
I also don't need broken elbows.
rich benoit
Honestly, it's a good core workout.
I'm sure it is.
joe rogan
It's a great workout.
I think it's a better core workout.
I'll show you this hip and glute machine from Rogue where you put your ankles in this thing and you lean all the way back and go all the way up.
rich benoit
You have some next level shit here, by the way.
You have some cool stuff, man.
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Man warehouse.
rich benoit
Can I live here?
joe rogan
Sure.
There's plenty of room.
rich benoit
There's tons of room.
joe rogan
Bring a tent.
unidentified
You camp out of the jiu-jitsu mats.
rich benoit
But yeah, so I was riding my one wheel past this kind of overpass.
And there was a tent there.
And like a lady sticks her hand out and she offers me a chocolate, what was it?
I think it was a chocolate ladybug, right?
It was a ladybug wrapped in like that tin that makes it look like chocolate or whatever.
I'm like, oh, I'm like, no, thank you, no, thank you.
Right back in the next day, offers it to me again.
I was like, no, thank you, no, thank you.
I was like, you know what?
I'm going to like, you know, do something nice, right?
So I get five bucks.
And I was like, I'll give it to her, you know, nice gesture.
I write up, you know, I give her, you know, I hand her the five bucks.
As I start slowing down on the one wheel, other people started popping their heads out of the tents and they actually saw me give her the money and immediately a guy runs out and like snatches it directly out of her hand.
I'm just like, I've never seen anything like that before.
I know I'm really passionate about that, but I just can't stop thinking about it.
It's crazy.
It's really crazy out here, man.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
rich benoit
And everyone comes to LA, California to get their big break.
Like, oh, I'm going to be like a famous whatever, famous actor, singer, exotic dancer, porn star, whatever.
And the struggle's real out here.
It's real.
joe rogan
It's real everywhere, but whenever you get giant groups of people, you're going to get a higher percentage of people that are out here that are homeless or struggling.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Again, I don't know what the – what's the solution?
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
No idea.
I know they don't put enough effort into it.
Whatever the solution is, that's one of the arguments that – who was it?
Someone made.
Was it Cher?
Someone unlikely – I had a really good argument that everybody is so concerned about illegal aliens getting into this country and so not concerned about our homeless problem.
And what the fuck is that about?
There's people right here, right now, that we're not taken care of.
And you're like, but these people from other countries, they're trying to...
rich benoit
Oh, but we're trying to do this now.
joe rogan
My take on that, though, is, but those people are trying to do better.
They just got fucked.
Whereas the other people live in America.
Okay, vets, too.
Many are vets.
It's Cher.
rich benoit
Look at her.
joe rogan
That's what happens when an old lady...
rich benoit
Does she still look that good?
What's she look like now?
joe rogan
She's going back in time, bro.
rich benoit
How old is Cher?
unidentified
She's 12. She went back in time.
joe rogan
If my state can't...
First of all, this is my problem.
Why is this bitch capitalizing every word?
rich benoit
Oh, that's frustrating.
Oh my god, I just noticed that.
joe rogan
She's capitalizing all of them, and then afterwards, she's capitalizing the first letter.
unidentified
The whole sentence.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
If, capital, M-Y, capital, S-T-A-T-E. Does she have someone to write this for her?
rich benoit
I don't understand.
joe rogan
Must be.
Must be.
She's got an assistant.
She's got an assistant who hates her.
She's like, I'm subtly going to make this bitch look stupid.
I'm tired of her and her fake pictures and her Photoshop filters.
Fuck you, Cher!
rich benoit
Can we find a recent photo of Cher?
How old is Cher, actually?
joe rogan
She's 150. I would say she's 65. How old do you think she is?
Take a guess.
rich benoit
How old do you think she is?
jamie vernon
60...
unidentified
Maybe 70. 72. 72!
joe rogan
Damn.
jamie vernon
She's actually about to turn 73 in a couple weeks.
rich benoit
Are you serious?
joe rogan
When I was a kid.
Well, it makes sense.
Man, I'm 51. That's her like 20 years ago.
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
That's her yesterday, you asshole.
rich benoit
No way.
joe rogan
You're misogyny.
rich benoit
Is that what money does?
joe rogan
That's some vampire facial.
rich benoit
Is that what money does?
I gotta get some money.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta get that money.
Money gets you good Google search pictures.
rich benoit
That's all it gets you.
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
That's legit.
But that's what they sound like when they get to that age.
They start talking crazy.
rich benoit
Is that her real hair?
joe rogan
100%.
She bought it.
She owns it.
rich benoit
She does own that hair, yes.
joe rogan
She looks pretty good, man.
rich benoit
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
She looks good.
rich benoit
She married?
joe rogan
You want that?
rich benoit
No, I do not.
I don't know why I asked that.
That was a weird segue.
joe rogan
Well, the move is, like, you know, really get her to sign no prenup, you know, and how much time she got left.
rich benoit
Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.
joe rogan
I mean, if you could hang in there for 20 years, what are the odds that she can, too?
rich benoit
I got waited out.
You got waited out.
unidentified
Man.
joe rogan
That's awful.
rich benoit
Oh, good for her.
jamie vernon
This is announced on our tour this year, this picture.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
What the fuck it is, bro?
Let me tell you something.
People use my old pictures from my tour.
I don't even ask them to.
If you find that picture of me against a brick wall, we took that shit back at the old studio.
That picture's like four years old.
Yeah, she's on tour.
Congratulations.
rich benoit
Yeah, good for her.
joe rogan
We were talking about vampire facials that some ladies, Jeff told us, this lady, two people got HIV. They got AIDS, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
Not necessarily AIDS. Sorry, I jumped the gun.
joe rogan
I know.
rich benoit
I jumped the gun.
unidentified
I apologize.
But it's more fun to say AIDS than HIV. I apologize for him with HIV. AIDS is like, it feels like you're not even supposed to say AIDS. Yeah, like you can't say AIDS. It's like if you say AIDS, you're like, whoa, you insensitive asshole.
rich benoit
Slow down, brother.
joe rogan
Two tests positive for HIV after vampire facial.
It says vampire facial is girls get jabbed in the face with some...
Is it plasma?
What is it, PRP? What are they doing?
rich benoit
Didn't Kim Kardashian get that?
Something like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, she took pictures of it on the Insta.
rich benoit
I don't understand.
So, wait a minute.
Don't they get a new needle every time?
Use the same needle?
What's going on here?
joe rogan
No, there's Kim.
Beautiful.
unidentified
Oh, hashtag awesome.
joe rogan
I don't know if they use other people's blood for the facial.
rich benoit
What?
jamie vernon
P-pop stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think that's probably what's going on.
I don't think it's that it's a used needle.
I think it's that they're using someone else's blood.
rich benoit
Why would you?
This doesn't make any sense.
Like, does this make sense to anyone?
joe rogan
No, because I would think that if you drew blood, you would draw it from yourself.
rich benoit
Oh, so it takes it from your body.
joe rogan
Right, so that is basically platelet-rich plasma.
But why would anybody get HIV unless you're giving it to yourself?
rich benoit
Maybe they already had HIV. Bam!
Myth busted.
joe rogan
Blaming it on Mexico, as per usual.
Why did she do it on her nose?
She did it on every part of her body but her nose.
She's scared of her nose.
She wants her nose to look old.
rich benoit
Because it's plastic.
Just kidding.
Just kidding, Cam, if you watch this.
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
Just kidding.
LOL. Yeah.
So what happened to these fucking people?
Did they really use an old needle?
rich benoit
They probably already had AIDS. That's what it is.
joe rogan
These people are goddamn liars.
rich benoit
Because think about it for a second.
Why would you take an AIDS test before?
unidentified
Right.
rich benoit
You know?
Ooh, we're getting deep.
joe rogan
I took an AIDS test before and after my facial.
And then I didn't even have AIDS until after my facial.
rich benoit
Congratulations.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
That's like the Indian footage.
They found footprints of what they think is Bigfoot in India.
And people saying, hey, asshole, this is an animal hopping.
This thing's only got one leg.
If there's a Bigfoot, it's a one-legged Bigfoot, like some Dr. Seuss creature.
They're like, look, stupid.
That's not two feet.
That's not bipedal.
rich benoit
What do you guys do?
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's one leg.
Look at that.
Boing, boing, boing.
That's an animal jumping, you assholes.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
The thick part is where their butt lands.
The front part is their paws.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And they just keep going.
See?
You see one of them.
It's even broken up.
Like, look at that one picture where, like, one of those footprints is actually two separate marks in the snow.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm not even a wildlife biologist.
The one right there.
I'm not even a wildlife biologist.
That's a rabbit, bro.
That's a rabbit.
rich benoit
Those look kind of big to be a rabbit, though.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's pretty big for a rabbit.
Like a whole-body rabbit, you mean like the butt?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a fucking big-ass rabbit.
They have some big-ass rabbits.
rich benoit
How big do rabbits get?
jamie vernon
In the Himalayas?
joe rogan
Dude, have you ever seen some...
I don't know.
jamie vernon
That's what I'm wondering.
If this isn't the Himalayas, what is your animal it could be?
joe rogan
Well, one of the things, this is very interesting about animals, is that when they go further north, contrary to logic, like what you would think, they actually get larger.
You would think, well, it's colder up there.
rich benoit
They probably get smaller.
A little thicker.
joe rogan
But no, they preserve their body temperature by being larger.
That's why moose are so big.
They're the furthest north of all the cow species.
rich benoit
That kind of makes sense to me.
joe rogan
Totally makes sense.
If you get a deer from Mexico, they're tiny.
They're like 100 pounds.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
There's a deer called a coos deer, and a really big one.
Cows are coos, depending on who you ask.
C-O-U-S. But it's a variation of the white-tailed deer that's really small.
It only weighs like 100 pounds.
And it's in Mexico.
A full-grown one is like a dog-sized.
And then there's other ones that are in Saskatchewan, the same species, that are 300 pounds.
rich benoit
How do you know so much about deers?
joe rogan
Because I kill them and I eat them.
rich benoit
Oh, you're a hunter.
unidentified
I forgot you're a hunter.
rich benoit
That explains the giant bow outside.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Ah.
That's how I get my meat.
rich benoit
No, please.
You don't go to the supermarket like everyone else?
joe rogan
I do go to supermarkets.
rich benoit
Occasionally.
joe rogan
But most of the meat that I eat, I try to eat from animals that I kill.
rich benoit
Where do you hunt?
In L.A.? No.
joe rogan
L.A. is tricky.
The tents get in the way of your line of sight.
rich benoit
It's hard to line up.
joe rogan
But you can get a lot of coyote hunting in L.A. if you want.
There's fucking coyotes everywhere out here, man.
rich benoit
Would you eat a coyote from L.A.? I don't think I'd eat a coyote, period.
joe rogan
Unless it was a goof or I was really hungry.
You can eat them, though.
I mean, you can.
It's just meat.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
You'd have to cook it really, really well, but when you cut away all the fur and mange and all the shit on the outside, you're just getting a tissue.
rich benoit
Where do you hunt, typically?
joe rogan
The mountains.
Usually, every year I go to Utah.
In the mountains of Utah.
What do you got, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Further explanation on this.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a bear.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
They call a Yeti something different.
joe rogan
A Himalayan brown bear or a Tibetan blue bear.
Oh, what they call, with all due respect, what we call Yeti.
Is with all probability either...
Oh, no, no, no.
Okay, it's not like they call the Himalayan bear a Yeti.
It's like they're saying that it was probably a bear that was making those marks.
That makes sense.
If those are big marks that the bear is hopping through the snow.
If it's thick snow, that makes sense.
rich benoit
That guy, Kunal, he's a nice guy with all due respect to everyone.
Very nice guy.
joe rogan
The single footprints are when the bear walks on four feet.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
rich benoit
All right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
So, yeah.
So, you go to Utah.
And you just wait?
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of hiking.
You know, you go and essentially you go where you know that the elk are going to be in the area and when they're in the rut, which is when you hunt, that's when it's legal, which means they're mating and breeding and smashing heads together and shit.
Then you hear them.
You hear them scream at each other.
rich benoit
And you're ready to be killed.
joe rogan
Well, they are definitely ready to be killed then.
Little do they know.
Then you've got to figure out how to sneak in on them.
But they can't help themselves.
They're competing with all these other males.
So they're always like screaming at each other and smashing heads.
And occasionally you'll find one that's dead that was killed by another bull.
rich benoit
But you don't eat that?
joe rogan
No.
No, no, no.
You could.
I mean, you certainly could if it was like a recent kill.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
If you knew.
If you got to it like right when it was dying.
rich benoit
Take temperature, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the blood was still coming out of its body.
But you will find them.
They get stabbed and they kill each other.
Yeah, I mean, that's the whole reason why those antlers exist.
rich benoit
It's for war.
Yeah, for stabbing.
joe rogan
They just fuck each other up.
They don't even use it to defend against other animals, like wolves and shit.
They kick the wolves most of the time.
rich benoit
So how do you get the thing back?
Those things aren't light.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to do what's called quartering it, which is you take the legs off, and you take the front legs off, and then you take the meat off the carcass, and then you take the heart and the liver and the edible organs, and you have to pack it out.
rich benoit
So you have a crew that goes with you?
Or is it just you with a big ass knife?
joe rogan
Look, I'm not very good at hunting.
I'm like, if hunting was a martial art, I'd be a blue belt.
A blue belt is like your white belt, blue belt, purple belt, brown belt, black belt.
I'm not a black belt.
I'm like a blue belt.
Maybe I could get my purple belt if I work real hard this year.
But I go with a guide who's going to take me to the places that I need to go and show me and a guy who's an experienced outdoorsman who basically teaches you.
It's like having a trainer in martial arts.
rich benoit
Exactly.
joe rogan
Like a sensei.
Yeah.
He knows the landscape.
He's a hardened outdoorsman.
These guys never get fucking tired.
And they'll go and take you and show you.
But then it's your job to execute the shot, your job to get close, your job to stalk in, your job to make sure that you don't get what's called winded.
It means the animal smells you, the wind's at your back, and the wind carries your scent towards the animal.
So you have to move around.
rich benoit
There's a lot of thought that goes into this.
There's a lot of thought that goes into this.
joe rogan
Well, I don't use a gun.
I use a bow.
rich benoit
Which is even crazier.
joe rogan
But I have used a gun.
I have.
rich benoit
Really?
I shot a bow once and it didn't go so well.
It's fun.
joe rogan
Just shooting targets is really fun.
It's very cathartic.
There's a release when that arrow finds its target.
It just feels really good.
It's probably some primitive shit from back when we used to rely on killing things with bows and arrows.
Like accuracy.
But there's something about hitting something.
When you're shooting something at a target and it hits it, it's very, very satisfying.
rich benoit
It's very rewarding, yeah, of course.
joe rogan
And when you do that with a bow and arrow, it's very difficult.
rich benoit
It's more challenging.
It's more rewarding.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I've never used a traditional bow.
I mean, I have, like, a couple of times, but I've never really tried to shoot with, like, a traditional bow or a recurve bow.
rich benoit
Oh, you have the kind of gun, but they also, like that.
joe rogan
No, no, I have a, you draw it.
I mean, you have to pull it back, but it's a compound bow.
It relies on these mechanical, these gears that, these, what do they call it, cams.
rich benoit
Is it like the bow in Walking Dead?
joe rogan
Maybe watch No, that's a crossbow.
rich benoit
That's a crossbow?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a bullshit bow.
What that is is a shitty gun.
This guy's got a trigger.
rich benoit
He did pretty well with it, though.
I mean, he killed a lot of zombies.
joe rogan
It would make me very angry.
Very frustrated.
First of all, he doesn't even have a broadhead on that stupid thing.
He's shooting them with little pencil holes, and he's killing them instantly.
rich benoit
That's all he had access to.
joe rogan
Bitch, make a broadhead.
Make a broadhead, bro.
rich benoit
Break into a...
joe rogan
Break into a Bass Pro Shop.
Get yourself some broadheads.
You know, come on, man.
rich benoit
I actually did see a few Bass Pro Shops in Walking Dead.
They just walk right past them.
unidentified
I was like, what are you guys doing?
joe rogan
Get in there, bro.
There's guns and nets and camping gear.
rich benoit
Kayaks.
joe rogan
So that's a crossbow.
And that's a very controversial weapon amongst outdoorsmen.
rich benoit
Why is that?
joe rogan
Because they use those during bow season.
rich benoit
Okay.
joe rogan
And there's a reason why bow season...
If you looked at statistics across the board, if you have what's called a tag, like say if you wanted to go deer hunting, you'd have to get a license and then you'd get a tag.
And if the tag was available for the area you wanted, you'd pay a certain amount for that tag.
Now, if you get a bow tag, they make the bow season earlier, you have a much higher likelihood of failure with a bow than you do with a gun.
So I could say like 50% of the people that got a tag, it's usually not that high, but if 50% of the people that got a tag for a rifle were successful, it might be 10% with a bow.
It might be even less.
It might be even less in some places, depending on how rugged the landscape is, how hard it is to get to where the animals are.
And you have to be able to shoot far accurately.
rich benoit
So do you do most of the shooting when you go up there?
I do all the shooting.
joe rogan
Yeah, I shoot them myself.
That's impressive, man.
rich benoit
That's a manly ass thing to do.
You do a lot of manly shit, I noticed.
joe rogan
I know.
I'm probably compensating for something.
rich benoit
I didn't want to say that, but yeah.
It's funny because you do a lot of...
I noticed that the whole MMA stand-up, making everyone laugh, and then I didn't know you hunted as well.
joe rogan
Well, you know what it is, man?
I don't have anybody telling me what to do.
So because I don't have anybody telling me what to do, I gravitate towards things that I'm really interested, which is why you're here.
rich benoit
Right.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I found out about your story.
I was like, that guy seems cool.
And then I saw YouTube videos.
I go, oh, he's cool.
All right.
Let's do this.
I mean, to have that kind of freedom in your life is a beautiful thing.
And I feel incredibly fortunate that I have that kind of freedom.
So I indulge it.
I indulge it like a little baby, like a child.
I just gravitate towards things that I like to do.
And people could say it's stereotypically toxic masculinity or whatever.
unidentified
Well, okay.
joe rogan
Whatever.
I like it.
I'm nice.
I'm a nice person.
But I gravitate towards manly shit.
I like watching fights.
I like doing martial arts.
rich benoit
You like fighting, watching fights.
I like hunting.
joe rogan
I like cars.
I like these things.
I mean, what am I going to pretend that I don't like them to make other people feel happy?
rich benoit
Some people feel intimidated by that.
Like, oh, it's too manly.
joe rogan
That's the problem is you don't want to look like an asshole, which I've experienced.
I look like an asshole.
I look like an asshole just looking at me.
I look like an asshole to me.
I'm sure I look like an asshole to other people.
rich benoit
That's not true.
I don't think so.
unidentified
I appreciate that.
rich benoit
You're a very open-minded guy.
This guy looks like a decent guy coming out of that fancy Tesla of his.
Actually, I would think you're an environmentalist.
Probably a douchebag.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably like super vegan-y.
rich benoit
Yeah, ugh, look at him.
joe rogan
Really annoying.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Doesn't want your kids to get vaccinated.
rich benoit
Yeah, doing the shit you want to do, that's definitely a big deal, man.
So I definitely respect that about you.
joe rogan
I think more people should do that.
I think one of the things that we have a problem with people doing what they want to do is because we don't get to do what we want to do.
So when we see other people, they're like, yeah, that's bullshit.
We get mad or we're like, he doesn't even really like that stuff.
Or he's, you know, oh yeah, you're just falling into the typical, stereotypical masculine behavior.
Maybe explore your sensitivity, man.
rich benoit
Why would people say that?
unidentified
Because they're bitches.
rich benoit
People love telling you how to do shit.
I hate that.
joe rogan
It's usually men that are bitches.
There's a lot of those out there.
rich benoit
Funny how that works.
Do you have any names for me?
No, I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
I'll write them down.
rich benoit
I'll write them down.
So speaking of that, so interesting story for you.
So I was kind of talking back to your guy back and forth about being on the show.
And the craziest thing happened where I was out here to actually work on a Tesla-related project.
Oh.
And the top secret is going to come out in a couple months.
Yeah.
Basically, I was at my job, right?
And then I was like, hey, listen, I gotta take a week off to go out to California and work on this project.
And then I was talking to your guy, and they're like, hey, listen, if you're going to be out here, come back the next week as well.
You know, you could say, hey, listen, you have two weeks out here.
I told my boss, and he's like, listen, man, like, two weeks is kind of a long time.
We don't have any coverage.
Like, you know, I know you're going to be on Joe Rogan.
It's really cool, but I'm not sure if I can let you do that or not.
So I made a decision.
Following in your light, I said, you know what?
Then I'll leave my job then.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
rich benoit
Yeah, I left my job, man.
joe rogan
Damn.
rich benoit
I left my job, which is why I'm here.
I need a job, Joe.
Just fucking with you.
joe rogan
Did you really leave your job?
rich benoit
I did, yeah.
unidentified
Good for you.
rich benoit
It was a big thing because I had this whole meme thing going on my YouTube channel.
And I used to say, oh, I have a full-time job.
I can't work on these builds.
I can't do this.
I can't do that.
It was getting in the way.
And you have no idea.
I finally left.
And this is kind of...
I was reading your story a while back about how you got started in the whole comedy thing, how you went out in Boston, went to L.A.
And it just felt so liberating because literally when you're doing something that you're not passionate about, that's literally eight to ten hours of your day doing something that you just don't really want to do.
joe rogan
It's most of your day.
rich benoit
Yeah.
It's most of your day.
So it's insane.
So I thought to myself, you know what?
Everyone's in the rat race.
Everyone's rushing to get somewhere.
You know about Boston.
You're rushing to get on the train.
You're rushing to get somewhere that you don't really want to be.
You're rushing there to work for eight hours for someone else doing something that you don't want to do.
And it just gets taxing, man.
It was just taxing.
joe rogan
And you're not going to do your best with the things you do afterwards.
If you've been doing this thing for eight hours, the four hours that you have before you really have to go to bed when you get home at night, you're not going to have the same kind of energy that you had at noon or at 10 a.m.
or whatever it was when you woke up or when you got to work.
What you're dealing with is this crossroads, right?
You've hit this path.
Where you can decide to either not take a chance and just slowly take little incremental steps towards what you really want to do or take a risk.
And when you take a risk, yeah, you don't have health insurance.
Yeah, you don't have dental.
That's what the risk is all about.
But that's the only way.
And people are like, yeah, but what if I fail?
But you can't think like that.
Because if you think like that, you're going to fail.
And second of all, yeah, you might.
But then you've got to do it again.
And if you continue to just fail and do it again, one day you'll figure out why you were failing, if you're paying attention, and if you're doing your work.
And then you'll find something that you can do that you're successful at.
If somebody wants to hire you, if you're good at your job, if you go to a place and you're valuable to that employer, you could be valuable to yourself.
You just got to figure out how to do it or what it is that you want to do that you could do without having a boss, something that feels natural, something that you gravitate towards.
When you get up in the morning and go, I'm fucking pumped.
I'm going to work for myself.
rich benoit
I want to do this.
joe rogan
And I'm going to do my thing.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
There's not a time where I ever come here to do a podcast where I go, fuck, I can't believe I have to do this.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Not a time.
rich benoit
That makes me feel good.
Thank you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not today.
Not ever.
Never.
unidentified
Never.
joe rogan
I mean, there's times where I leave and I was like, what the fuck was that about?
rich benoit
Yeah, I can imagine.
joe rogan
There's a couple.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
In a thousand whatever podcasts I've done, there's only been like a small handful of those that have been like, what the fuck was that?
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
If you can do that, man, if you can find that thing that you love to do, whether it's making furniture or fucking painting or whatever it is, if you can make a living doing that, god damn!
That's everything.
It changes the world.
The world becomes a better place.
rich benoit
That's the goal, man.
So we'll see.
So, again, I took some cues from some inspiration from you when you left Boston.
You're like, you know what?
I'm going to do this comedy thing.
I want to figure it out.
So what was that like for you?
So when did you make the determination to say, hey, you know what?
I work at this gig.
You know, this isn't the thing that I want to do.
And you made the jump.
What was that like?
joe rogan
The Boston thing was super lucky.
I was only 25 or less.
24?
rich benoit
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, 24. And I was doing stand-up and I was driving limos during the day and doing a bunch of different odd jobs and shit.
And then I got seen by a manager who was coming from New York to Boston to scout for new talent.
I just got dumb luck.
I wasn't even supposed to be on the show.
And he asked me to go to New York and do some spots in New York.
I did some spots there.
And then, next thing you know, I was living in New York.
I signed a contract with him, and I just packed up my shit.
And my grandparents were still living in New Jersey.
They live on North 9th Street, which is like...
When the time, when they first moved there, it was a pretty nice neighborhood, middle class.
But then as Newark has got kind of funky...
rich benoit
It's like Skid Row now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not...
Well, it's just...
It was the next door neighbor while I was living with him.
They broke down his house door because he was selling crack.
He had a dope Audi parked in his driveway and they smashed his door with a battering ram.
It was a legit sketchy neighborhood.
That's what I did.
I just packed up my shit and moved.
I didn't have any money.
I didn't know if it was going to work out at all, but I knew this was a chance.
But I was young.
When you're 24, you're like, whatever.
rich benoit
Health insurance, whatever.
joe rogan
I didn't have health insurance for a long time.
rich benoit
Do you have it now?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Okay, good.
joe rogan
That's good.
rich benoit
You got it?
joe rogan
When you quit this job, do you have it?
rich benoit
My wife has it.
joe rogan
Okay.
Well, there you go.
rich benoit
So that was a scary thing.
I was just like, shit, hey, listen.
joe rogan
What did she say?
rich benoit
She's like, go for it.
joe rogan
Ooh, I like it.
Good.
You got a good one.
rich benoit
Yeah, go for it.
She's like, yeah, go for it.
Because the tough thing is that it's, you know, I have my little shitty YouTube channel.
joe rogan
Yeah, but your YouTube channel is pretty big.
You're saying it's a shitty YouTube channel, but you've got a lot of views.
rich benoit
You know what's funny?
I say that, but it's hard because I don't want to be...
joe rogan
You want to be a dick.
rich benoit
I don't want to be a dick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
But I have this massive following.
joe rogan
Well, how many subscribers do you have?
rich benoit
I think 400. That's pretty goddamn good.
50,000 or something like that.
joe rogan
That's pretty goddamn good.
rich benoit
Yeah, it's not bad.
joe rogan
That's pretty goddamn good.
For a guy who fixes cars, rebuilds Teslas and shit.
rich benoit
Yeah, it's not bad, right?
And to think that I've amassed that kind of falling, only fixing really one car.
joe rogan
Right.
Now, imagine if you put all your time into that.
unidentified
Bingo.
joe rogan
Bingo.
I'm hoping for.
And after this show.
rich benoit
I'm hoping for.
joe rogan
What's it called on YouTube?
rich benoit
Rich Rebuilds.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
Rich Rebuilds.
rich benoit
Subscribe.
joe rogan
See that little subscribe button?
rich benoit
Subscribe, yeah.
joe rogan
Put that.
rich benoit
Oh, there you go.
joe rogan
And it's great.
Your videos are really cool.
Oh, look, you're subscribing.
rich benoit
You subscribe?
Oh, look at the subscribe right now.
Awesome.
That's a perfect shot of me, by the way.
The frozen photo.
joe rogan
But your videos are excellent.
You're really good at it, and you're really good at explaining things, and you have a good sense of humor when you're doing it, and it's interesting.
Thank you.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
Thank you.
joe rogan
It's interesting stuff.
rich benoit
Yeah.
I try to be – it's funny because there's – I'm not a super genius.
There's other people building Teslas left and right.
Are there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is there a lot of other people that are getting involved in this?
rich benoit
Well, yeah.
Now there is.
They're getting more involved in it, and they're starting their own little channels and stuff.
But my thing is I want to be a little bit different.
I want to add some kind of humor and comedy to it to make it interesting.
Because quite frankly, not everyone thinks building a Tesla is really that funny or interesting or fun.
So adding a humorous spin to it makes it more interesting.
joe rogan
No, you're great at it.
Yeah.
And when you look at any other kind of car, like if you buy a Chevy or if you buy even a Porsche or something like that, you can find these little mom-and-pop fix-it shops.
You can find them all over the place.
rich benoit
Absolutely.
joe rogan
All around, you know, you go to West Hills.
There's a bunch of places that fix cars.
rich benoit
Right.
Exactly.
joe rogan
Hey, there's something wrong with my transmission.
Can you look at it?
No problem.
They put it on a lift.
They go, oh, you got a leak here.
You got this.
You got that.
With a Tesla, you're on your own, son.
That's what I'm saying, man.
You either bring it to Tesla.
rich benoit
I know, man.
joe rogan
Or nada.
And I get it from their point of view.
They don't want a bunch of people monkeying around with their shit.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
But even like Mac...
Like, you can go to the Genius Store, which is gross.
rich benoit
The Genius Bar, yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever the fuck that name is.
rich benoit
That's gross.
Genius Bar, yeah.
joe rogan
Genius Bar.
Let me see your IQ test.
rich benoit
That's a bit pompous.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
I met some of them people that are not geniuses.
rich benoit
I'm smarter than you.
Whatever.
joe rogan
So, you can either go there, or you can go to these little mom and pop Mac stores.
Those do exist.
rich benoit
Exactly.
joe rogan
And they're not approved, but they can fix your computer.
rich benoit
They get shit done.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get shit done.
rich benoit
So that's the goal for me.
So, you know, I'm starting my own shop.
I'm starting a shop called the Electrified Garage.
Ooh, I like it.
Not bad, huh?
joe rogan
That's a good name.
rich benoit
I got some swag for you, too.
And that's the biggest thing, is because there's no mom-and-pop shop to fix Teslas.
unidentified
Right.
rich benoit
Like, right now, it's the only game in town.
They're pumping out...
What, like 5,000 cars a week now?
Like 5,000 a week, right?
Which doesn't seem like much, but for a small company, it's insane.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
How many is that a day?
It's 30 days.
rich benoit
It's a lot.
It's like, what, 20,000 a month?
No, no, 5,000 a week.
Oh, yeah.
It's like 20,000 a month or so.
unidentified
Jesus.
rich benoit
How about that?
20,000 cars is a lot.
That's a lot of cars, right?
That's a lot of freaking cars.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they're too busy.
rich benoit
So right now, you know, there's only two places to fix Tesla's in my state.
So when someone's like, hey, I want to get my car fixed, you call Tesla, they're like, yeah, it'll be about, you know, maybe a week.
I'll get you in like maybe two weeks.
joe rogan
Oh, you get you in in a week?
rich benoit
Yeah, get you in a week, maybe two weeks.
joe rogan
And then they got to order the parts.
rich benoit
Sometimes three weeks, sometimes a month.
Yeah, people wait months, man.
So that's the goal.
So I'm opening it up and it should be open probably another month or so.
And then we'll drive people there.
joe rogan
I have a fantasy of one day building a car.
What do you want to build?
A 69 Camaro.
rich benoit
I thought you had one.
joe rogan
No, I don't.
rich benoit
For some reason, but you have a whole bunch of cars.
I lose track sometimes.
joe rogan
I have a 65 Corvette, but I just...
rich benoit
Oh, no, you had a Barracuda.
joe rogan
Yeah, a 70 Barracuda.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got rid of that.
rich benoit
Why?
joe rogan
It had problems.
rich benoit
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had all the problems fixed, but it was more designed to look really good.
It looked really good.
It was a beautiful car.
But it wasn't my style.
I like a car like that little Corvette.
That thing drives like a modern car.
If you drive that thing, it handles.
It's got fuel injection.
It's a Georgia car.
Thank you.
But it feels like...
It feels like a car that is not dangerous.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
That Barracuda is like, anytime you want, and you stomp the gas, if you're taking a turn, the ass end would go totally sideways.
rich benoit
Which is kind of fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, a little bit.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's so front heavy, like it had a giant ass engine, and it was a beautiful, beautiful car.
It also wasn't a stick shift, and that annoyed the fuck out of me.
rich benoit
Oh, it was automatic?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was automatic.
rich benoit
Sorry to hear that.
joe rogan
I know, it was ew.
But what was my point?
rich benoit
I forget.
joe rogan
Oh, that I have a fantasy of building a car to spend the time and actually put it together.
Because I would imagine that the way you feel when you drive that Tesla is like this crazy feeling of satisfaction.
You made that thing.
Much like the way you feel if you hunt and you eat the steak from an animal that you shot yourself.
You're driving that car around.
You built that fucking thing.
rich benoit
It's all about the hunt.
Part of it's the hunt and the chase, though.
Because now that the car's built, I'm kind of like, alright, now what?
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
rich benoit
Like, after you hunt, after you, you know, you take that kill shot, you want to do it again.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Or you want to hit something different.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
You want to kill an elephant next time when I'm an elephant.
But, like, you know, definitely not an elephant.
joe rogan
I like elephants.
rich benoit
I'm sorry.
Sorry about that.
joe rogan
That's one I don't get.
That one, I don't...
unidentified
What do you even do?
rich benoit
People kill elephants.
unidentified
What do you do with that?
They eat them.
joe rogan
They eat them.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, the thing is, when they do kill them and the villagers get to eat the food, they get very excited about it.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Apparently elephants are delicious.
rich benoit
That's a lot of meat, man.
joe rogan
It's so much meat.
But that's the thing.
It's one thing that we don't want to ever think about when it comes to conservation, these animals.
But the money that a hunter would spend...
To kill an elephant goes towards making sure that the elephant population is healthy and pays for all these game wardens, or what they call PHs in Africa.
And then the money also goes to some of these villages, and then the food, the meat from the animal, goes to these villages.
But still, you're shooting a fucking elephant.
rich benoit
Yeah, I feel bad.
It's weird how you feel bad for killing an elephant, but other animals...
Like a rat.
joe rogan
Yeah, rackets hit by a car, you cheer.
rich benoit
You're like, yay!
joe rogan
You fucking loser.
rich benoit
Because I hit it myself, right.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're totally biased towards certain types of animals, for sure.
rich benoit
It's like why we, how do they say it, why we feed pigeons, but we shoot bald eagles.
It's majestic.
I know you want it.
joe rogan
Do you see that beluga whale that they caught that had a net?
It had a harness on it and they think that the Russians were using it.
rich benoit
Like, riding it?
joe rogan
No, they think they were using it as a bioweapon.
Like, they would strap a missile to this thing and then tell the whale to go to boats.
rich benoit
How do you tell a whale to go to a boat?
joe rogan
This whale was trained to go towards boats.
And it had this harness on it.
And they think that what they did was they trained this thing to go towards boats.
rich benoit
Choking the shit out of that thing.
joe rogan
Well, you could use something like that to hold a bomb.
So you would train it to go towards the boat, and then when it would hit the boat, it would detonate the bomb and explode.
So they must have given this whale some sort of food reward for banging into the boat.
rich benoit
Holy shit, that's sad, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they cut it free of this harness.
I mean, this is total speculation.
They don't know where the harness came from, but...
rich benoit
I'm hoping someone was trying to ride it and they weren't...
It's probably a bomb, though.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure...
rich benoit
They're pretty sure it's a bomb.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure...
Look at this.
Whale found off Norway coast believed to be spying from Russia.
rich benoit
Oh, maybe it had a bunch of cameras and stuff, too?
joe rogan
But that might just be click-baity bullshit, too, right?
Who wrote this article?
Are they an expert?
Are they a security expert?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do they just have a whale with a harness?
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
We don't really know what the fuck's going on.
rich benoit
Like, how often do whales and harnesses show up, the fact that you're an expert and can speak intelligently about it?
joe rogan
I think that the U.S. government read equipment of St. Petersburg on the strap.
Oh, shit.
rich benoit
Oh, it's not good.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if I wanted to trick people into thinking that the Russians were involved...
I would make it super obvious.
rich benoit
I'd write that too.
joe rogan
Yeah, why would they write that?
jamie vernon
So you've got to fake train a whale and then send it over and be like, look what they're doing.
joe rogan
Bro, you've got to look into it.
rich benoit
Exactly.
Made in Russia by Russia.
joe rogan
Exactly.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would write Made in Russia on it.
It was all in English too.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
We didn't even use Russian letters.
Property of Mother Russia.
rich benoit
Love Russia.
joe rogan
I think the government did that with dolphins.
See if that's true.
The government trained dolphins for weapons.
jamie vernon
20 of them, something like that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think the U.S. government did that.
They trained dolphins to blow up boats.
unidentified
Damn, dude.
rich benoit
What a place we live in, man.
What a place we live in, man.
joe rogan
We basically trained dolphins to be jihadists, but they didn't know it.
They didn't know they were jihadists.
At least the jihadist knows.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, you tricked them into going for 72 virgins and blowing up.
You tricked them.
rich benoit
Oh, God.
joe rogan
But the dolphin doesn't even know it's going to die.
rich benoit
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
They probably would be like, what?
Wait a minute.
unidentified
What?
rich benoit
I get fish?
I love fish.
joe rogan
He just thinks he's going to get fish if he bumps into the boat.
rich benoit
What's this thing on my back?
Ah, whatever.
I'll do it.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
That's it.
Poor things, man.
I never see it coming.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
This says it's a myth.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a myth.
rich benoit
What's a myth?
jamie vernon
Well, that wouldn't be the first time.
joe rogan
The Navy trained 36 dolphins.
Disinformation.
Yeah, well, who says that?
The Navy?
unidentified
Those stories are coming from like 2005. Is that true?
rich benoit
Is that true?
Who wrote that?
jamie vernon
But then in 2015, it says that the U.S. Navy's combat dolphins are serious military assets.
So maybe they just started it, stopped it, and started it back up.
joe rogan
They did it.
rich benoit
I don't get it, though.
So here's the thing.
Why are they sending dolphins?
Why don't they just build robots to do it?
joe rogan
Because the robots aren't as advanced.
rich benoit
As a wild dolphin?
joe rogan
They can't go through the water the way a dolphin can.
And it would look like a robot.
A dolphin, they're not going to do shit.
They're always in the water.
So if you can get something that's an organic part of the environment, and they're not going to kill every dolphin that comes near the boat.
So they see a dolphin, they think it's just a dolphin.
And then it...
rich benoit
Why don't they have a missile painted like a dolphin?
By the time they get it, it's like, oh shit.
joe rogan
Because it would be going too fast.
Ukrainian killer dolphins escape naval training base in search of love.
rich benoit
Yeah, this doesn't seem like it's accurate for some reason.
I don't know why.
jamie vernon
They escaped during Hurricane Katrina.
They've escaped multiple times.
I don't know if we're just training more.
rich benoit
These dolphins keep escaping everything.
Wait, are dolphins smarter than us?
They keep escaping.
joe rogan
They're super smart.
rich benoit
How do we not keep a hold of these dolphins?
jamie vernon
Not on the loose.
I don't know.
It's very confusing when you look it up.
joe rogan
Ukrainian military dolphins not actually on the loose.
Who says that?
The Atlantic.
That's government.
G.gov.
rich benoit
Hey, you know what?
Speaking of dolphins, my fun dolphin fact is that dolphins are one of the few animals that have sex for pleasure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
One of the few.
Chimps, dolphins, people.
Yep.
And dogs.
Well, dogs are trying to breed.
rich benoit
That's for fun?
joe rogan
No, I guess.
Well, they fuck your leg.
What are they trying to do?
rich benoit
I guess you're right.
That sounds...
unidentified
What are they trying to prove?
rich benoit
That's a good point.
joe rogan
What are they trying to prove?
Alright, let me ask you this because you're all into technology.
rich benoit
Go ahead.
joe rogan
What do you think about aliens?
rich benoit
God, this doesn't seem tech-related at all.
Yeah.
Do they think they exist?
joe rogan
Do you think they've ever visited here?
unidentified
Oh, God.
rich benoit
No.
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
I don't think so.
I think they would have destroyed us.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when we visit primitive tribes, we don't destroy them necessarily.
Like, we try to leave them alone.
rich benoit
Do we try?
But we end up destroying them one way or the other anyways.
Well, there's a few.
joe rogan
Some people do, for sure.
rich benoit
Even when we try to be nice, it's like, yeah.
Look at that tribe.
Let's analyze them.
It's like a few photos.
Let's give them food.
And then they die, pretty much.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's always that image, a famous image of these tribespeople in Brazil, an uncontacted tribe, and they're painted, they're body paint, and then they have arrows drawn at the helicopter.
rich benoit
Exactly.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, now they know about helicopters.
Slowly but surely they're going to freak out.
rich benoit
Now it's the new sun god.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Now they worship a new religion.
See?
Think about it.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if you were an uncontacted tribe and all of a sudden a fucking helicopter shows up?
rich benoit
Whenever I see a helicopter show up, I freak out in general.
joe rogan
Yeah, in general.
rich benoit
You know what I mean?
So, like, imagine a...
That's insane.
joe rogan
Have you ever been in one helicopter?
rich benoit
Yes.
joe rogan
So weird, right?
rich benoit
Right, it's weird.
Like...
joe rogan
Just flying around like, okay, we're in the sky.
rich benoit
The way it makes noise, absolutely.
But no, I think...
I don't know, man.
I think they would have destroyed us.
They'd be like, these guys are stupid.
joe rogan
Don't you think they would want to watch...
Like, if you go to the zoo, right?
You go to the chimpanzee exhibit and you watch them swing around and shit.
People love to watch the chimps.
It's probably one of the most popular parts of the exhibit.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And we love watching them.
Like, oh, look at them, look at them.
And if you could go someplace where you could watch them in the wild.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if there was, like, a webcam where you could tune in to the Congo right now.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
I would definitely do it.
rich benoit
How do we know they're not watching us right now, though?
joe rogan
Exactly.
rich benoit
That's the thing.
They probably are.
joe rogan
They probably are.
But wouldn't they just like watch and observe?
So we don't blow ourselves up.
rich benoit
So we would never know that in general.
They can live among us.
joe rogan
We wouldn't know.
I mean, I would imagine that if there was a civilization that's on the cusp of some major breakthrough as far as artificial intelligence goes, which is where we are.
In many ways, I think that we're all super fortunate to be alive right now.
rich benoit
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Because even though this is a time of incredible turmoil, it's also a time of amazing potential and change.
rich benoit
I'm greedy as hell though.
I want to see more.
joe rogan
I know.
unidentified
Me too.
rich benoit
I want to see more.
Me too.
I really want to see a robot uprising.
I'm dead serious about that.
joe rogan
Don't.
rich benoit
Don't ask for that.
I do.
I really do.
And I want to be like 90-ish years old.
And I want there to be this super advanced AI robot just to take over and start shooting shit.
And I also want...
Because Elon Musk, he'll still be alive.
His head will be in a jar.
And he'll be like, I told you so!
I told you there's a robot hand!
I told you!
That's what I want to see because it's like Terminator shit.
joe rogan
I don't want to see that at all.
I want to see the aliens come in and stop us right when we're about to hit the green switch to turn on artificial intelligence.
I want the aliens to come down with their little legs and go, hey, hey, hey.
No, no, no, no.
rich benoit
They wouldn't listen to us.
joe rogan
The robot gave this guy a soda.
Boston Dynamic, yeah.
It's wrestling with him.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going to grab your dick like that.
rich benoit
I might like it.
joe rogan
You're going to be beaten off.
That thing's going to come in.
Let me help you.
rich benoit
But the thing is, what's stopping that from not wrapping around his neck and just crushing it?
joe rogan
There's nothing stopping it.
If you get hacked, think about the same people that helped you make your Tesla work.
They're going to hack into this fucking thing.
It's going to run right through your walls.
rich benoit
It's like Skynet.
joe rogan
It's going to eat your dog.
Have you seen the ones that flip?
They have them on trapezes like Cirque du Soleil.
rich benoit
Actually, have you seen the part where they actually beat the robots?
Yes.
joe rogan
You know what my favorite part of that is?
What?
Well, they beat the robots to find out if the robots fall over.
They kick them and shit.
PETA released a statement saying it's not cool to kick robots.
rich benoit
Shut up, PETA. What are you getting involved in everything for?
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's not cool.
rich benoit
Wait, how about a robot coalition?
Should it be a robot coalition?
We stand with robots to say, listen, we built these things, but we can't hit them like that.
joe rogan
Let me ask you this.
Here's the real question.
If you're 90 years old, and you're still lucid, but your body's failing, your knees are gone, and your hips bad, and your back hurts all the time, and your shoulders are all torn apart, you can't pick things up, and they say, Rich, we can download your consciousness.
rich benoit
Oh God, not this.
joe rogan
Into this artificial body that's like you if you were Anderson Silva when he was 30 years old.
rich benoit
That's like Black Mirror shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They give you the super powerful body.
You're going to feel it just like that, but now you're going to be like a super elite athlete.
And it's going to be you.
Or you can just go to black and see what happens in the afterlife.
Or you can just let this 90-year-old body die.
rich benoit
This is the silliest question ever.
Of course I would take it.
joe rogan
Of course.
Bird in the hand, right?
rich benoit
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This afterlife might be bullshit.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
I can enjoy myself right now.
rich benoit
Wouldn't you do that?
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
rich benoit
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
rich benoit
I actually want to do it right now.
joe rogan
I'm not even 90. I think that's how they're going to get us.
I think slowly but surely they're going to replace parts.
There's already amazing artificial hands that they're creating and limbs that are articulating limbs.
rich benoit
Here's the thing.
Would you want one of the limbs that looks like a human limb or would you want a robotic limb like in Terminator?
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
I'd want a Terminator limb for sure.
joe rogan
Would you for sure?
rich benoit
I want everyone to stare at me.
joe rogan
But what if it was nice and soft?
jamie vernon
Do you think we're close to RoboCop then?
Would that be maybe the first step?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's probably right.
They're probably going to do that with soldiers and shit.
rich benoit
Yeah, definitely.
All the money's in the military.
Yeah.
unidentified
Exoskeletons.
rich benoit
They'll drop 10 billion on that.
I met one of those robots.
joe rogan
I saw one of those at Pechanga Casino.
rich benoit
At the mall.
It's the most ridiculous thing ever.
unidentified
Real weird.
joe rogan
I'll fuck that thing up.
rich benoit
You know, the one in the middle...
The one in the middle, I put my hat on it and it started freaking out.
joe rogan
Did it get mad at you?
rich benoit
Yeah, it just started spinning around in circles.
I wish it had a gun on it.
joe rogan
Oh no.
rich benoit
Then people would take it seriously.
joe rogan
Well, that's the worry about those dog things, those dog-like robots that they just put guns on those motherfuckers.
That is an episode of Black Mirror.
Remember that episode?
rich benoit
No, I didn't see that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's called Heavy Metal.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It's one of the best episodes.
Spoiler alert, this lady's running from these robots.
rich benoit
They have dogs on them?
joe rogan
It looks like a dog.
It looks like one of those things.
rich benoit
I've got to check that one out.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it has potential, like, actual real technology that it's using.
So, like, it's not outlandish.
rich benoit
Yeah, the thing is about Black Mirror, everything is, like, that could happen.
joe rogan
That could actually happen.
Yeah, even the whole thing where they implant memories and you live this crazy fake life, that's on the horizon.
rich benoit
So you know the interesting part about Black Mirror is that there's a pro and a con to everything.
So there was an episode where a woman wanted to keep better track of her daughter.
So she implanted that ship so she could see whatever her daughter sees.
Then her daughter got older and older and she started to see some wild shit that the kid was doing.
But then...
To your example, what would be the downside of putting my consciousness in someone with a jacked and ripped body?
joe rogan
Well, the downside would be, would you even really be a human anymore, or would you be some sort of a thing that we've created that keeps your brain alive?
rich benoit
Right.
But who cares?
joe rogan
Who does care?
Well, here's the thing.
Would you want to live a whole other life?
Like, how much time do you want in this fake body?
Do you want to be immortal?
Do you want to keep going forever?
rich benoit
Not forever, no.
joe rogan
At 200 years.
You know, there's an old story about that, about a guy, goddammit, it's like an old legend, about a man who kept killing his sons in order to live longer.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that God came to him and told him if you kill his son, and he lived to be like thousands of years old, but he just had no one around him that cared about him and loved him.
rich benoit
Isn't that the story of Job in the Bible or something like that?
Ah, whatever, keep going.
joe rogan
Since from something.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't remember.
But the point is, like, when you got to 200 years, if you said, okay, I'm going to take this body and I'm going to live in it for 200 years, but in 200 years, I'll be done, that's it.
Right.
198 years comes along and you're still like a 30-year-old Anderson Silva.
rich benoit
I couldn't do it.
joe rogan
You're having a great time.
rich benoit
Right, that's a good point.
joe rogan
But you might be like super wise.
That's the other thing.
If you think of how smart a person is, they keep their shit together and they become like a mature older man who's just wise and understands the way the world works.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Someone who's well-read and really has taken the time to do the work on themselves personally.
They know themselves better than they did when they were a young foolish man.
Right.
Hopefully most of us as we get older.
But what if you could live the 300 years?
How wise would you be then?
rich benoit
My biggest concern isn't necessarily about being wise.
I think it's about my loved ones.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Because you see a lot.
In 300 years, you see a lot of shit.
Right.
That's like three wives.
Actually, maybe four or six.
Who knows?
unidentified
Right.
rich benoit
But as they pass, you have your kids, and your kid will live to be 80 years old, and you're just like, hey, you know.
joe rogan
You got to get your kid a new body.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
I don't want to go on forever, though, because I feel like, what's the world going to look like in 300 years?
joe rogan
Maybe it'd be dope.
Maybe it would be the shit.
rich benoit
Maybe it would be.
joe rogan
Maybe it would.
rich benoit
You know what I want to say?
You know, the most fascinating thing I keep thinking about is us going to Mars.
I know Elon Musk really wants that.
Do you want to go?
Would you go?
unidentified
Nope.
rich benoit
Why?
joe rogan
Not interested.
rich benoit
It's a one-way trip, I know.
joe rogan
Look, I don't want to go to Antarctica.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Where the fuck would I want to go to Mars?
I don't want to go anywhere where people can't live.
rich benoit
We go to Utah in the woods and shoot deers and stuff.
joe rogan
People live there.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It's beautiful.
There's streams and trees.
It's gorgeous.
rich benoit
But you were just saying that you don't like when people come up to you at a restaurant and harass you.
So, like, you living alone is another thing.
joe rogan
I like being around people, though.
That's why I go to a restaurant.
I'm not, like, in a cave somewhere trying to eat.
You know what I mean?
I mean, there's nothing wrong.
rich benoit
I feel like you would want to do that.
I feel like with all this manly shit that you do, like, men want to just go and just, like, light fires and caves and shit and just, like, beat up animals.
joe rogan
Dude, going to Mars is stupid.
You can't come back.
That's like going to the shittiest neighborhood in the known universe you can get to on a one-way ticket.
rich benoit
But guess what?
joe rogan
Your name will live forever.
rich benoit
We'll live on it.
Well, that doesn't mean shit, I guess.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Assholes.
No one cares.
You know who else's name lives forever?
Hitler.
He'll give some fuck.
That's a good point.
What are these?
Is this Elon Musk's space station on Mars?
Bro, that neighborhood sucks.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like living in Barstow for the rest of your life.
rich benoit
What do you even see there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you get trapped in Barstow in a glass bubble, like halfway to Vegas.
rich benoit
Hey, remember Biosphere?
Remember that?
joe rogan
Yes, Pauly Shore.
rich benoit
No, but they did a real one.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
rich benoit
The actual Biosphere.
joe rogan
Paulie Shore and who else?
Stephen Baldwin.
rich benoit
Yeah, they did Biosphere.
That didn't go so well.
joe rogan
No, people went crazy.
rich benoit
Why don't we do that again?
joe rogan
People go crazy, man.
They don't want to be locked together with each other.
It's not normal for everybody to be just stuck in some bubble with each other.
It's been 25 years since Biosphere.
Since eight scientists sealed themselves in a Biosphere for two whole years.
rich benoit
What ended up happening to them?
I forget.
joe rogan
They probably went on a fuck rampage.
It took more than three months just to make pizza.
Really?
What does that mean?
They didn't bring a guy?
jamie vernon
They probably had to grow the ingredients from scratch or something.
joe rogan
Oh, hell no!
Of course.
Oh yeah, they had to live, they had to be sustainable inside that little ecosystem.
Were they allowed to bang each other?
rich benoit
How could you forbid that?
joe rogan
How could you?
rich benoit
That's all people want to do in general.
unidentified
It's work.
joe rogan
But it's work.
Work environment.
Harassment.
rich benoit
Yeah, I guess you're right.
Who's HR? Who's going to stop you?
joe rogan
That's right.
rich benoit
Who is HR? So there's 25 people in there?
joe rogan
25 scientists.
rich benoit
And that's the thing.
Do you think that if people, if we didn't have laws, we're in a lawless society, no police, would we just kill each other?
joe rogan
Yes.
Barbarians.
rich benoit
Because it didn't happen there.
Who was the law there in the biosphere?
joe rogan
I think most of the time we don't even...
What does this say, Jamie?
Nevertheless, the team completed the mission to merge you from the outside world after two years of solitude.
Okay.
I think most of the time you don't need the law.
But is that because we know the law exists and people have formulated society in the sense that you could always count on the law so that keeps people in check?
I don't know.
And it depends on where you live.
Like, if you live in a poverty-stricken, crime-ridden neighborhood, do you need the law there more, or do you need the law there less?
Is maybe people being arrested a lot causing some of the problems that you're seeing in that neighborhood, and there's some of those arrests because of non-violent drug offenses?
How much are you turning...
Because there is a certain percentage of people that get turned into criminals once they get introduced into the judicial system as a non-violent person who's just selling drugs.
rich benoit
It drives them towards that.
joe rogan
You're stuck in a fucking full penitentiary with criminals, like real criminals, like violent people.
And then you're just a guy who sells weed.
rich benoit
You're like, oh my god, how did I get here?
joe rogan
Fuck.
What am I doing here?
rich benoit
That's real too.
This is why we need to analyze those isolated environments, those isolated ecosystems with people that's never seen anyone from the outside, see how they handle shit.
joe rogan
Well, they kill each other.
They kill people that don't pull their weight.
rich benoit
Should we do that?
Kill the weak.
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
There's a great book, Sapiens, from Noah.
What is it?
Yuval Harati.
It's a great book.
But it just outlines the history of the human race.
And these various tribes that have dealt with weird shit like that, there's certain tribes that when they see old ladies, Yeah.
Damn!
Yeah, and this one guy was talking about, I think it was that book.
I'm pretty sure it was Sapiens.
I read a bunch of books, or listened to, I should say, I don't want to lie, listened to them on tape, a bunch of them back-to-back on runs that were dealing with this very same issue.
And they were talking about this guy who was like, he killed a few of his aunts.
rich benoit
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah, and they were like, all the old ladies are scared of him because he was the guy that they hired to kill them when they weren't pulling their own weight.
I'm like, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
But maybe that—is that a bad thing, though?
Because if you're part of— It's bad if you're that old lady.
That's correct.
If you're part of an older tribe—if you're part of a tribe, right?
And you guys have to keep moving and keeping things going because you're going to get killed by another tribe.
And then you have weaker members of that tribe that are holding the entire tribe back.
What do you do?
joe rogan
What do you do?
rich benoit
Do you risk—I mean, do you— That's the real question, right?
Would you put a bullet in— You know, your friend's mom, because she wasn't pulling her weight, and because that depends on the entire tribe itself.
She's throwing the whole tribe down.
joe rogan
See, that's the thing that you do when you don't have much, right?
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
When you have surplus, like we have, we value our older people.
We want to care for them.
rich benoit
Right.
Have to live with us and stuff, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a famous video of these two comedians.
You've seen that video?
There's two comedians that find this lady who's trying to buy gas with pennies and shit, and they give her money, and she starts crying.
It's a tearjerker.
It's a serious tearjerker.
rich benoit
What happens in the video?
joe rogan
They give her money.
They buy gas?
Yeah, these two young guys get out and give this lady money, and she starts crying.
rich benoit
She's at a gas station?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Well, gas is like five bucks a gallon.
I'd cry too, probably.
joe rogan
She's paying with pennies and shit.
And so they give her some money and she's like weeping.
It's really...
Her husband died just a week ago.
It's heavy.
Turn it off.
I'm going to start crying.
Stop it.
rich benoit
I want to see you cry, Joe.
Hey, Joe, what was the last time you cried?
joe rogan
Not that long ago.
rich benoit
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I cry for happy things.
rich benoit
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
You don't cry for sad stuff?
joe rogan
Not as much, man.
Like, if someone does something really amazing, I'll start crying.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
You saw my videos, you're like, oh, God.
joe rogan
I gotta get him in here!
Get this guy at the show!
Yeah.
When people do good things, I cry.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I tear up for shit like that.
rich benoit
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Same here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm not into dudes who cry about, like, stupid shit.
rich benoit
Yeah, like having too much money or something.
unidentified
Oh, God, no.
Shut up.
Fuck you.
Shut up, man.
joe rogan
You know, if he'd cry, why is it always me?
unidentified
I ran out of gas.
joe rogan
Well, that's what happens when you drive and it says, empty, you dumb fuck.
Jesus Christ.
Should have bought an EV. When do you think it's going to happen that EVs are all electrical?
Like, with the solar.
rich benoit
Oh, not for a while, man.
Solar density is tough because...
You need a lot of panels.
But out here?
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
Well, out here, I think a lot of people are rocking it that way in two steps.
They get the solar from the roof or from the panels, and then it goes into the battery, and the battery, and then they charge it.
rich benoit
So a lot of people, what they do is they just, it's cheaper.
They just get a whole bunch of panels, and they reduce their electricity bill by not having, you need the battery pack itself to store the electricity.
unidentified
Right.
rich benoit
And a lot of the times people don't have a large enough battery pack in their homes to store that energy to charge their cars.
You know what I mean?
A lot of people just have the panels to offset the price of electricity that feeds back into the grid.
joe rogan
But what I mean is the car itself.
Like Fisker had that for a while where their roof had a solar powered thing that was powering the radio.
rich benoit
Yeah, it's like a gimmicky kind of thing.
joe rogan
Is it gimmicky?
rich benoit
It kind of is because you're very limited in size, the amount of panels that you could put on the roof.
It's really only enough to, like, trickle charge, like, a couple things.
You know what I mean?
You need, like, a bigger array.
Or, like, heavy solar density.
And that's coming, but, like, there's not enough to really, like, power the car from it.
You know what I mean?
While you're driving.
joe rogan
Maybe there's an alternative way to gather the sun.
To gather the rays.
Because that would be the most amazing thing ever.
If we all had cars that were electric that just ran in the sun.
And there was no need for oil.
It's all done.
rich benoit
Yeah, I know, man.
joe rogan
Is that the Fisker, Jamie?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So that solar array on the rooftop, I think it powers the radio.
rich benoit
Yeah.
So you only have so much room on the roof, and all it powers is the radio.
Imagine the motor.
joe rogan
Yeah, ridiculous.
rich benoit
The motor, it wouldn't even try it.
joe rogan
But that didn't even exist 20 years ago.
So who knows?
In the future, it seems like it could be possible.
You could figure out a way to make it efficient, especially out here.
rich benoit
Yeah.
There's a ton of sun out here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That would be the most amazing thing ever.
rich benoit
Why is that woman laying on the roof?
I don't understand that.
joe rogan
She's trying to be hot, bro.
Trying to get some dick.
Look at her.
rich benoit
Trying to sell cars.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's up with the glasses?
She looks really pale, too.
She's gonna burst into frames.
rich benoit
Is that Cher?
That's Cher a little bit.
joe rogan
That's Cher's fetus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that would be...
That would really be the future.
We had no reliance whatsoever on oil.
rich benoit
That'd be badass, man.
What do you think about...
Speaking of reliance, what do you think about people no longer relying on driving their own cars?
What do you think if everyone owned a Tesla, right?
What would that world look like?
Everyone put in autopilot when they went somewhere.
What would that look like?
Because you've used autopilot, but you keep your hand on the wheel because you're nervous.
joe rogan
I think one day it's going to be amazing.
But I think it's like...
If you bought Windows 95. If you bought a computer in 95 and you had Windows, it would crash all the time.
You get that blue screen to death.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
It doesn't always work.
rich benoit
Nope.
joe rogan
But you can rely...
Like Windows 10 does not...
I've never had it crash.
Not once.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think that that's what it's going to be like with a Tesla.
I think there's going to be a few crashes.
rich benoit
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
If everyone's driving these things, there's going to be hiccups, errors, software problems, glitches.
rich benoit
Some people are just dumbasses, too.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then after a while, it's just going to work.
If you look at the...
We were talking about Windows or Android versus Apple.
The old Android was dog shit.
It was terrible.
But I have a new Note 9, a Galaxy Note 9. You're an Android guy?
No, I have both.
rich benoit
Both of everything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I like to fuck with shit.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why I'm interested in your...
rich benoit
So, what do you use two phones for?
What do you need to...
Are you a drug dealer?
joe rogan
Work?
Yes.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
One number I give to people who are squirrely.
Really?
A suspect?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I have to...
You know, I'll turn it on every now and then and check text and go, Jesus, this fucking guy.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then the other one...
rich benoit
So, what number would you give me?
joe rogan
I'll give you the real one.
rich benoit
Hmm.
joe rogan
I'll give you the real one, bro.
I'll give you the iPhone.
rich benoit
Nice.
joe rogan
It comes up blue.
If you get a green text from me, you know you're on the squirrely list.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
That's a good point.
Everyone text Joe right now and be like, hey, listen, what's this bubble showing up as?
joe rogan
I like the idea of supporting alternative platforms.
That's one of the reasons why I appreciate Windows and I appreciate Android.
But I think that Apple has a better platform.
There's a better ecosystem.
rich benoit
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I despise their lack of options with their laptops.
I despise it.
I think it's...
It's unfathomable how such an enormous company can have such shit things to type on when they cater to creative people.
rich benoit
Yeah, it's their way of the highway.
This is how it is, and that's kind of it.
joe rogan
But when I have one at home, I have a mechanical keyboard.
rich benoit
You like those things?
joe rogan
I love them.
unidentified
Clickety, clickety, clickety, clickety.
rich benoit
Do you customize yours at all?
unidentified
Nope.
rich benoit
Do you spec it out, make it all super sweet?
joe rogan
No, I use a Razer, one of those Razer ones.
It's a gaming one, but I use it for typing.
rich benoit
Why do you...
I've never used a mechanical keyboard.
As a tech guy, I'm embarrassed to admit I've never used one.
I just use the built-in laptop one.
What are the benefits from it?
joe rogan
I'm a feedback person.
I like tactile feedback.
I like to click.
I like to feel it.
And the same reason why I like a manual transmission.
Same reason why I like mechanical things.
rich benoit
Maybe you should get a phone that has buttons on it.
I should, bro.
Remember those T-Mobile sidekicks?
unidentified
Yes.
rich benoit
Like the flip phones and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Those are the shit, man.
I remember people had those.
I was jealous.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
What about people that can still type with just the keypad when they have to do four presses to get an S? Yes.
There's a lot of people out there still rocking that.
rich benoit
But the old Nokia is like you press like three, eight times to get to the E and stuff like that.
Or playing Snake.
Remember that game Snake?
joe rogan
There it is.
There's the sidekick.
rich benoit
Oh, damn.
jamie vernon
Brought it back.
joe rogan
No, they didn't.
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
Is that what this is?
rich benoit
What year is this?
They didn't bring that back.
joe rogan
This is coming back.
rich benoit
That's bullshit.
jamie vernon
I mean, I don't know how popular it is.
joe rogan
Is this for sale right now?
rich benoit
What version of T-Mobile website is this?
There's no way.
unidentified
This is from like 1996. T-Mobile still has sidekicks?
joe rogan
Get sidekick support.
unidentified
Oh, it is.
rich benoit
It says 4G. So it is.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
What do you think world we're living in?
unidentified
Let's do whatever you want.
rich benoit
Yeah.
jamie vernon
What do you want?
unidentified
You can get it.
rich benoit
Who's going to buy that?
Joe, you should buy that.
joe rogan
Paris Hilton's got one.
It's got a pink key.
What's that pink key for?
Is that enter?
rich benoit
Go back in time.
Yeah, right?
Time warp.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
So that's like a Twitter feed that someone's looking at on their sidekick.
rich benoit
However, you know what?
I will admit, it was a struggle for me to go from the physical typing keyboard.
joe rogan
Me too.
rich benoit
It was hard.
I didn't want to let it go.
joe rogan
I was BlackBerry's bitch for a little while.
Longer than I should have.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Do you have one now?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
I'm going to draw something.
joe rogan
No, I gave up on it.
rich benoit
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Tommy Burns does.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
Tom Segura is all about that BlackBerry.
joe rogan
He's bullshitting you.
Do you not know that?
rich benoit
It's a joke.
jamie vernon
I know.
rich benoit
Those things exist?
No one uses a BlackBerry.
joe rogan
Well, they have the ones that have the physical keyboard attached to a big screen.
You've seen that?
Does it slide down?
jamie vernon
No.
rich benoit
Yeah, those are like all Android.
Those are all Android powered now, I think, right?
joe rogan
Yes, yeah.
All the blackboards are.
rich benoit
How about a Windows phone?
unidentified
Ooh.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
That kind of faded into obscurity.
jamie vernon
Do you remember the Matrix phone?
That they clicked it and the mouthpiece slid down and everyone was super pumped.
Like, oh, that looks badass.
Can't wait until that comes out.
rich benoit
No.
jamie vernon
It never came out.
They made a couple of them just because people, they were like 5,000 bucks or something.
joe rogan
Windows phones, it's weird that that didn't take off.
A friend of mine had one of those.
I was like, look at you.
rich benoit
And they had those weird tiles.
joe rogan
Yeah, the tiles, like Windows 10. Right, exactly.
Those tiles are awkward.
They're still awkward to me.
They're uncomfortable.
This is not the way to do it.
rich benoit
So, if you have a Windows phone now, what are you doing?
joe rogan
You're fucked.
They don't make them anymore.
rich benoit
You're not getting updates.
joe rogan
No, you're not getting shit.
They're just letting it die.
rich benoit
You're kind of just stuck in 1996. It's like 8-track.
joe rogan
What is this, Jamie?
jamie vernon
It's a Matrix phone.
joe rogan
That same phone?
jamie vernon
It was released last year.
joe rogan
Ooh, look at that guy.
He's so excited.
rich benoit
Oh, it's a slide?
Yeah, that's like the old school.
It had a slider phone.
You think you'd look cool or stupid with that thing?
joe rogan
Stupid.
rich benoit
Yeah.
So what are you doing, guy?
Get yourself a banana.
joe rogan
Get a real phone, you fucking dork.
But it does have the keypad where you have to do that shit.
rich benoit
Who wants to go back to doing that?
joe rogan
Assholes.
Some assholes like it.
jamie vernon
T9 texting was pretty fast.
rich benoit
I feel like you're a cocky prick if you do that.
joe rogan
You shut your dirty mouth.
rich benoit
You shut your dirty mouth?
jamie vernon
The T9? I forgot how to do it.
joe rogan
I forgot.
I never knew.
I never knew.
rich benoit
Wait, is that touchscreen as well?
Oh, God.
I hope it is.
unidentified
This is just...
joe rogan
It's like a mouse pad.
They gotta navigate with that stupid thing.
rich benoit
I hope this doesn't succeed.
jamie vernon
It's probably got Snake on it, though.
rich benoit
Yeah.
Snake was the shit, right?
Remember Snake?
joe rogan
What is Snake?
Is that a game?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Old, old, old game.
joe rogan
I have avoided games on my phone for a very specific reason.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because I have a problem with games.
rich benoit
Like you get hooked on it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
You have a badass gaming rig over there.
I saw that gaming rig.
joe rogan
The game room, the LAN, but that's all for first person shooters while we're here.
I cannot have a game that I love on my phone.
Why not have that?
Because I'm a child.
rich benoit
Yeah, you get obsessed with it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't have that kind of control.
If I have a fucking awesome game that's on my phone, that's my life.
My life's gone now because I've got that game on me everywhere I go.
rich benoit
What apps do you have on your phone?
What else keep you going?
joe rogan
I have a bunch of normal apps like Instagram and Twitter.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
But I have a bunch of cool ones like some Star Map shit.
What do you got?
jamie vernon
I've never looked for this, but I just found someone playing Quake on their phone.
rich benoit
Oh, look at this.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck!
rich benoit
Yeah, now Joe's going to get that.
joe rogan
God damn it!
rich benoit
Wait, what kind?
Is that an Xbox controller?
jamie vernon
It's sort of like that.
It's a controller you can connect via this shit, but they have Quake 3 ported on there.
joe rogan
God damn it.
See, why the fuck would you tell me that?
jamie vernon
I've never looked before.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
It looks like it was two-dimensional, though.
Or not 2D, but didn't have an up and a down.
rich benoit
You have a new addiction now.
Congratulations on your new addiction.
joe rogan
I'm not going to do it.
I don't have anything on my phone.
I had chess on my phone for a little while, and I didn't even like that.
Because I started going, hmm, how do I get better at this?
I'm like, shut the fuck up!
Then I had to just shut it off.
I'm like, put that goddamn thing down.
rich benoit
So you have to pick and choose what you want to devote your time and energy to.
So what are your top three things that you put time and interest to that aren't your family right now?
joe rogan
Well, work stuff.
It's mostly work stuff or martial arts, right?
So it's like work stuff is stand-up, which is the most time-consuming because I have multiple sets a night.
And I'm always writing and always – tweaking and listening to recordings.
rich benoit
So how do you do your stand-up stuff?
So I want to get into...
joe rogan
I write shit.
You want to get into stand-up?
rich benoit
Not really.
Well, I was kind of thinking about it.
unidentified
You can do it.
rich benoit
How do I get into stand-up comedy?
People watch my videos like, You're funny.
You should do stand-up.
unidentified
No, dude.
rich benoit
Trust me.
joe rogan
I'm a professional.
You're a funny guy.
You could totally do it.
rich benoit
Thank you.
joe rogan
All you have to do is go to an open mic night.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What I suggest, go to an open mic night and see how terrible everybody is.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And then you'll be inspired to try.
You're going to be terrible, too.
Don't get me wrong.
I was terrible when I first started.
But you'll probably be better than most.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's all you need.
All you need is people...
If you say something, people are like, ha, ha.
That's all you need.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Just a little chuckle.
rich benoit
Just one guy in the front row.
joe rogan
And you go, okay, I got an ember.
I got an ember.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I can do this.
And then you'll figure it out, and you'll get better at it.
And you'll work at it, and you'll tweak it.
How old are you?
rich benoit
36. You can do it.
joe rogan
You still have time.
You're still alive.
rich benoit
When's a cutoff date?
40. Shit.
joe rogan
Kill yourself.
unidentified
No.
No.
joe rogan
I don't mean that.
Don't listen to me.
unidentified
You're done.
rich benoit
You'll never be anything.
joe rogan
Just jokes, folks.
Just jokes.
rich benoit
Just kidding.
joe rogan
JK, JK. But if you're a person who can make people laugh and you are willing to dedicate yourself to it, it's not like you have to have a certain amount of flexibility or a certain amount of physical strength.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
No, it's just, can you make people laugh?
Okay.
Then you can do it.
Are you going to pull it off?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's another question.
rich benoit
So how do you get inspiration?
So you sit down.
You're like, yeah, this is funny.
How do you get inspiration for that?
joe rogan
I think you have to be what I would call a professional.
And I've gotten this from Stephen Pressfield, who wrote The War of Art, which is a great book.
And I've also got it from reading Stephen King on writing and talking to a lot of different writers about how they handle things.
If you just waited to be inspired, and that's the only time you wrote...
Right.
Not even close, written, not even close, half as much good material as you do if you decide I'm going to write.
So I sit down and I write.
And sometimes I don't know what the fuck to write about.
And I just start writing.
I just start rambling.
And a lot of the first 20 minutes might be total horseshit.
But then I got an idea.
unidentified
What about that?
joe rogan
Well, why the fuck do we do that?
And then I'll start writing about that.
And then I'll make things up.
I'll make up a fact.
And then I'll argue against that fact.
And then maybe I'll find out what the real fact is and see if I can argue that way.
And then I'll...
And I'll give up.
I'll get to like 1700 words or something and then I'll shut the laptop and go, what the fuck am I doing?
rich benoit
How do you know that you're not going to...
A common thing is when comedians steal jokes and material.
So when you're writing and you're like, yeah, I'm going to do this.
This is an awesome idea.
How do you know...
That that content already hasn't been discussed.
joe rogan
Well, you don't always.
You don't always.
You could absolutely write something and have parallel thinking.
Write something and not even know that someone's already written it.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
But there's a difference between that and stealing.
Like, you know, when someone's...
If you come up with – if you look at something, whatever it is, like say maybe your wife sends you to the grocery store to pick up some tampons.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And it has the price things all fucked up.
And so the guy has to yell, price check on tampons.
rich benoit
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
There has been like a hundred guys who've done bits on that.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And it's not that they're stealing.
They probably didn't hear anybody do it, they thought it was funny, they thought it up themselves, and they did it.
Or maybe it even happened to them, and they did it.
That's parallel thinking.
It's a common one.
And then there's other people that did hear someone do it and they stole it.
That's a different thing.
rich benoit
That's the worst.
joe rogan
But you could get both of those things from that same subject.
That same really common, easy to think of subject.
There's a lot of those.
Cops and donuts.
There's a lot of things that are like a part of the lexicon.
They're a part of the way we talk.
They're a part of culture.
And you could think you thought them up, but you didn't.
rich benoit
It's almost like Seinfeld in a way.
That shit happens to everyone.
joe rogan
Sure, sure.
But then there's stuff that's clearly yours.
Like, if you did a whole bit about how you built a Tesla.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And then you got paranoid.
rich benoit
That'd be a heavy hitter.
joe rogan
And you thought Elon Musk is plotting against you.
Kill it and crush it.
You could.
rich benoit
Maybe don't do that.
joe rogan
And that would be something that's wholly unique to you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, how many fucking people have built a Tesla?
Is there even 20 on the earth?
rich benoit
I... At this point, yeah, probably.
joe rogan
Maybe 20. Let's pretend.
Let's pretend that out of a 7 billion plus population of human beings, maybe 20 people have done what you've done.
rich benoit
But doesn't it get old, though?
joe rogan
That one bit gets old.
rich benoit
No, no, no.
joe rogan
You just talk about other things then.
Look, you could talk about anything that you find interesting.
Personal shit, technology, world events, worrying about the environment, you know, all this shit.
Anything.
rich benoit
Yeah, did that whale really have a bomb strapped to it?
I keep thinking about that over and over again.
joe rogan
Why not?
Yeah.
I mean, and then if you...
Maybe it was like...
Someone from CNN that fucking hates the Russians and wanted to blame everything on the Russians.
Yeah, they got duped for two years saying that there was collusion and that Trump was going down and they colluded with Russia.
And then it turns out that the Mueller report doesn't really necessarily say that.
And then they're like, fuck, we've got to do something about these goddamn Russians.
So they hired this whale and they put a strap on him.
rich benoit
I don't know.
That was a good story.
Shit.
joe rogan
It's not bad.
rich benoit
So you write all this stuff down, right?
You write like 1,700 words, 2,000 words.
joe rogan
Out of that, I might get one line.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Maybe.
rich benoit
So how do you memorize that stuff?
joe rogan
I write it down, and then I take it, and I extract it.
And a lot of it I put in notes on my phone.
rich benoit
On your iPhone?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's one of the reasons why I like the iPhone is because when I write something in notes, They all show up automatically.
rich benoit
Oh yeah, it's all synced.
joe rogan
But I also have a thing called Evernote.
And so Evernote is my PC version of it.
rich benoit
So you do have apps.
joe rogan
So I transfer everything into both.
So one goes into Evernote and then one copy of it goes into Notes.
Sometimes not.
Like right now I'm a little behind on Evernote because I've been using just the Mac laptop for the last couple weeks.
rich benoit
Yeah.
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that's how I do it.
I go back and forth.
rich benoit
And you keep reading it and then you memorize it.
joe rogan
And then I write it out on paper.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
The write it out on paper part is really more just to highlight it so I remember what the key points are.
I don't necessarily write it out in full.
I look at what I wrote out And then I say, okay, I know where I'm trying to go.
Let me just try to go there organically.
rich benoit
Right.
So this one time I did a speech in front of about maybe like 160 people or so.
I threw some jokes in there, which is actually pretty good.
You ever get that weird thing where you're explaining a story and you didn't even get to the joke yet and you start talking, people are already laughing?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
I'm like, wait a minute, that wasn't supposed to be funny.
joe rogan
Exactly.
rich benoit
That was a terrible moment.
My friend died.
Why are you laughing?
It's one of those things.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes people see where it's going and they plan ahead and they start laughing like, oh my god, I know where this is going.
They see where you go, like, oh god, is this going, oh shit, where is this going?
rich benoit
They start laughing.
joe rogan
They start laughing there.
rich benoit
It's kind of one of those crazy things, but no, I think I I want to try it.
joe rogan
You should try it.
If you want to try it, you should try it.
rich benoit
The most terrifying thing is going up on stage and not getting a laugh.
Because I'm that same prick that's in the audience.
Like, wow, this guy's not funny at all.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
Of course.
rich benoit
This guy's off the friggin' stage.
joe rogan
We are all that person.
Look, especially if you don't know the guy.
People love to talk shit.
It's fun.
Some guy goes up right in front of you and says some shit.
This guy's not funny.
This guy sucks.
You're on a date.
You're like, fuck this guy.
rich benoit
I could do that.
It's normal.
It's normal.
unidentified
Jeez.
joe rogan
You...
You're going to have jokes that don't work, and then you're going to have jokes that work a lot better than you thought.
You're going to be like, wow.
But I can tell you're thinking about it, so you should do it.
But you're also thinking about it in terms of the right way to think about it, like that your setups are going to get laughs.
It's one of the weirder things about comedy is that it kind of comes to life on stage.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
On the paper, all I'm doing is looking for seeds.
Like, I'm looking for points and seeds and things that make me chuckle while I'm writing it.
And then I'm taking it, and I'm like, okay, am I just fucked up, or is this going to be funny?
And then I try to bring it out on stage and water it in front of all these people.
But that's the only way to do it.
You have to really develop it in front of people.
rich benoit
Do you remember some of your old bits?
Yeah.
joe rogan
You do?
Yeah, they were terrible.
rich benoit
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
The earliest shit was awful.
You weren't there.
rich benoit
No, I wasn't there.
unidentified
Trust me.
No, no, no.
joe rogan
First time.
rich benoit
Stuff I've heard, like, recorded and stuff.
Oh, thank you.
That was good stuff.
When I'm in my Tesla, I type in Comedy Stations.
Oh, right, right, right.
I type in Patrice O'Neill, and then you come up all the time in terms of your skits, Bill Burr's skits, and stuff like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
Pretty good.
joe rogan
Patrice is one of the greatest of all time, for sure.
rich benoit
100%.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
He's Elephant in the Room.
rich benoit
That was the best thing ever.
It was hilarious.
joe rogan
This day.
It's awesome, man.
There's a few guys you just wish you could get to that could just clean their health up.
rich benoit
I wish he was here today.
He'd have a lot of cool shit to say.
joe rogan
It would be so valuable.
rich benoit
I think all the time I sit around like, man, he'd have some cool shit to say about that.
joe rogan
The closest we have to him today is really Bill Burr in terms of ballsy stance against political correctness.
But he gets away with it in a way that other people can't get away with.
Yeah, it's...
rich benoit
Yeah, it's sad, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it sucks, man, because it was a diabetes thing.
It's like, fuck, man.
rich benoit
It's like, come on, man.
That could have been...
joe rogan
I didn't know him well enough.
I wasn't hanging out with him.
I was on the West Coast.
He was on the East Coast.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
If I knew him, man, I would have tried to talk to him.
But I tried to talk to Ralphie May, too.
That didn't work.
People, they're on their path.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially comics is the thing about someone who's that free, like Patrice O'Neill.
Like, he really doesn't give a fuck.
rich benoit
Not zero.
joe rogan
He didn't give a fuck.
rich benoit
That's what made him hilarious.
He didn't give a fuck what he said about anything.
joe rogan
Didn't give a fuck what he ate either, though.
rich benoit
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just ate whatever the fuck he wanted.
Did whatever the fuck he wanted.
It was indulgent.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
That indulgent translated to brilliant comedy, but it also translated into him not taking care of his body.
rich benoit
Yeah.
That's unfortunate, man.
Yeah.
So, my big question for you is, what do you...
You know you go to a party, right?
Everyone has that one thing that they can't stop talking about.
You have like, hey, I have a Tesla.
Hey, I do yoga.
Hey, I'm vegan.
What's your party trick?
joe rogan
I don't have one.
rich benoit
What's the one thing that you can't stop talking about?
joe rogan
I luckily don't have one because I don't really go to parties.
If I do go to parties, they're for my kids.
It's like birthday parties and shit.
Then you're just talking to parents.
And they usually want to ask me UFC questions.
Or they want to ask me about, what's Elon Musk like?
Or they want to ask me, when are you going to get Kanye on?
That kind of shit.
rich benoit
What's that weird thing feel like where you actually go out in public?
And you're actually amongst people and stuff.
What are the most frequently questions they ask you?
joe rogan
Those kind of questions.
rich benoit
MMA stuff?
joe rogan
MMA stuff is real common.
Comedy stuff is real common.
rich benoit
Podcast stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, they ask you weird questions.
But the vast majority of people are cool.
The vast majority of people are like, hey, what's up?
rich benoit
Hey, what's going on, man?
joe rogan
It's fun.
It's all great.
Yeah.
It's all good.
If you put that out there, like what I put out there, I'm pretty nice.
That's what I try to put out there.
So that's what you get back.
rich benoit
Right.
So what's next now?
What's next for Joe Rogan?
joe rogan
Are you interviewing me, man?
rich benoit
What's going on here?
unidentified
Yeah, but yeah.
You've turned this around.
joe rogan
See, I told you.
rich benoit
Turn the tables.
joe rogan
You're a natural.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're a natural for this.
rich benoit
So yeah, so what is...
joe rogan
There's no next.
unidentified
No, just do this.
rich benoit
But the thing is, I'm trying to...
joe rogan
Legitimately, I'm telling you, there's no next.
rich benoit
Because you're a successful person, right?
I came in here.
You pulled up in a black Tesla.
It wasn't salvaged.
You didn't get it out of the ocean.
I want to learn from you.
I want to know the things that you do.
The thing is...
joe rogan
What I did is what you're doing right now.
I took my own path.
That's what you're doing right now.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, what your path is going to be, I assume you're going to be doing more YouTube videos.
I'm assuming your channel's going to grow.
And I'm assuming you're probably going to try stand-up comedy.
You're probably going to like it.
And you'll probably do a podcast, too.
rich benoit
Kind of cool.
Is that how you got into the podcast?
joe rogan
Look how easy you are at podcasts.
You've never even done one before.
People don't understand.
You're like, how do I put these headphones on?
What do I do with the mic?
rich benoit
Seriously, what's this black thing in front of me?
joe rogan
Meanwhile, you're doing this like a pro.
rich benoit
Yeah, I appreciate that.
joe rogan
Look, you're even interviewing me.
rich benoit
Yeah, I want to learn from you.
joe rogan
But see, that's how this comfortable, easy nature that you have totally translates into all these things we talked about.
rich benoit
Okay, that's good.
joe rogan
You can easily do a podcast.
You could easily do stand-up.
Easily.
100%.
Well, stand-up's not as easy as a podcast.
Podcast is easier.
rich benoit
You ever have, like, a new stand-up person, you have to name your names, and they just suck, and you're just like, why is this guy, this guy shouldn't be?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, there's a few that you go, ooh, I gotta get out of here.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I can't be around this.
You worry, it's contagious.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you watch someone that's really bad, it's one thing.
I don't know.
Not everybody.
Greg Fitzsimmons thinks it's hilarious.
He loves watching shitty comedians.
But if I watch someone who's bombing, I've got to get the fuck out of the room because I start thinking there's nothing that's funny.
Things that are funny don't exist.
Because certain people, if you go to open mic nights, there are certain people that are just insane.
rich benoit
Do you still go to open mic nights?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll stop by.
If I'm in the neighborhood, and if I know, I want to peek in once a year and watch a little bit.
Because it's...
I want to remember.
rich benoit
What it was like.
That's where you started, man.
joe rogan
It's the fucking wanting to get on stage and seeing the list of people.
And in the open mic night at the Comedy Store in particular, the room is well lit.
Because they have all the, there's these signatures on the wall of like Robin Williams and famous comedians and Sam Kinison.
And those are all neon.
So that when the comedians are on stage during open mic night, all that neon is on, and the room is kind of fairly well lit.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
And then at the end of the stand-up, they're like, okay, no more open mic night, boom.
Those lights go off, the room gets dark, and then the pros go up.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
And then you see this marked difference in skill and quality of material.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And you see, like, real professionals, you know, like Chris D'Aleel, Bill Burr, Chappelle stops in all the time on open mic nights.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're no joke, man.
Chappelle will just show up at 11 p.m.
on a random open mic night and go up.
So you get both things.
You get to see people that have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
You get to see people that have potential.
You get to see crazy people that are just insane.
And then you get to see world-class comedians in the same night.
It's a cool experience at the Comedy Store, like Monday nights.
rich benoit
Okay.
Check that out.
joe rogan
It's awesome.
It used to be Sunday and Monday.
But then this place started getting too successful.
And they cut back on the Sunday night open mic night.
rich benoit
It sucks, man.
joe rogan
It does suck a little bit.
A little bit.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you live in a good spot because you're in Boston, and that's like one of the best spots in the world for starting out.
rich benoit
I think I have to try it.
It's weird because I feel weird because I have a following, and it's like, hey, listen, check me out for comedy.
It's like a weird thing.
joe rogan
No, they would like it, man.
rich benoit
You think so?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
If I'm a fan of your videos, and I am a fan of your videos, so if I was a fan of your videos and I wanted to go see you live at a club, hey, Rich is going to be at this place.
Oh, shit, what time?
unidentified
Eight o'clock.
joe rogan
Okay, let's go.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, oh, you think it's gonna be funny?
unidentified
I don't know.
rich benoit
It seems kind of funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
For people to get a chance to see you the first time you ever go on stage, too.
And just be prepared to eat shit.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you do eat shit, have some stuff to say about eating shit.
rich benoit
How do I know I ate shit?
joe rogan
You'll feel it.
rich benoit
Yeah.
unidentified
Like, oof.
joe rogan
Tastes like shit.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
You'll be like...
rich benoit
Yeah, it's definitely shit.
Thanks for everyone.
Have a good night.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look, I encourage everyone who thinks they could do it to do it because there's not enough of us and there's only, you know...
rich benoit
Is it a dying breed?
Is comedy a dying breed?
joe rogan
No, I think it's actually on the up right now.
I think it's on the upswing quite a bit because I think there's more avenues.
There's more clubs to go to.
Comedy is more popular than ever.
Like, if you go to the Comedy Store tonight, it's sold out.
I have a show at the Improv tonight.
That's sold out.
The places are packed.
rich benoit
You have a show tonight?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
And you're here with me?
unidentified
Always.
What?
joe rogan
I work almost every night, except Sunday and Monday.
rich benoit
How much do you sleep?
joe rogan
I sleep a good solid seven hours a day.
rich benoit
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Why is it hard?
joe rogan
It's hard to believe.
rich benoit
I feel like I never sleep.
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
You don't?
unidentified
You got to.
rich benoit
You know what?
You're a health guy.
How do I get better sleep at night?
joe rogan
Melatonin.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Take some melatonin.
rich benoit
I can't keep doing that, though, forever, can I? It's not bad for you.
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or, sauna's good.
Getting a sauna before you go to bed, it'll make you feel good.
rich benoit
But I have to have a sauna.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a problem.
You can get one of them sauna suits.
You ever seen one of those things?
rich benoit
No.
joe rogan
Like a sleeping bag.
Like an infrared suit.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they make those.
Yeah.
rich benoit
So I just go in like a, it's like a water bed, but it's like a bag that I kind of sit in?
joe rogan
Like a bag, but it's like a bag of water?
It heats up.
It's like kind of heavy.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it heats up and it's like infrared.
It cooks your body.
rich benoit
I think I'll be too scared of, you know, like a turkey when I get out of that thing.
joe rogan
I think I don't feel that bad.
It's not that bad, but it's really good.
It makes you feel good when you get out of it.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of people, it helps them sleep.
rich benoit
You have that chamber here that's like a water.
joe rogan
Sensory deprivation.
rich benoit
What is that?
joe rogan
It's an isolation tank.
rich benoit
I've heard of it, but what is it?
joe rogan
You float.
The water has 1,000 pounds of Epsom salts.
So as you lie down in that salty water, your body floats.
Half of your body is above the water, half is under the water.
So your ears are underwater, but everything above your ear is forward on your face.
rich benoit
It's just your face.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then the water's heated to 94 degrees, which is the same temperature as the surface of your skin.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you shut the door, and you're in total silence and total darkness.
You can't see anything.
You open your eyes, total blackness.
rich benoit
That sounds terrifying.
joe rogan
It's not, because you can just open the door anytime you want.
A lot of people think that.
Like, they get claustrophobic.
It feels wonderful.
It feels like, first of all, it feels like you're flying.
So you lean your arms back, and once you kind of bump into the walls a little bit, you've got to center yourself.
And once you center yourself, and then the water stops rippling.
Then you just let your arms relax and you just float and it feels like you're flying.
rich benoit
Can you fall asleep and die?
My biggest concern right now.
joe rogan
No!
It's only 11 inches of water and you're floating.
You can't drown.
Unless you flip over face first and you start breathing the water in until you stop.
You can just sit up and you're fine.
There's no way to drown in it.
No one dies.
You're fine.
You don't have to worry about that.
And you're floating.
It feels great, man.
It feels great and it's very relaxing.
rich benoit
So the concentration of salt is what keeps you afloat.
joe rogan
Yes.
There's a thousand pounds of Epsom salts in that tank.
rich benoit
Wow.
joe rogan
It's real good for your skin, too.
I found out about it first through the movie Altered States.
I'd heard about it.
It was a movie that was based loosely, very, very loosely, on the legend of this guy named John Lilly.
John Lilly is the guy who created this sensory deprivation tank.
Do you know who he is?
rich benoit
No, I do not.
joe rogan
Well, he also was a pioneer in interspecies communication with dolphins.
Yeah, he was a scientist.
rich benoit
It all comes back to dolphins, doesn't it?
joe rogan
For this guy.
He gave dolphins acid.
He was a part of LSD. Who allows you to do that?
rich benoit
Who says you can do that?
joe rogan
In the 50s and 60s, you can do whatever the fuck you wanted.
rich benoit
They give people acid, you know.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they actually shut his program down because the woman that he had, he had this woman who was living with a dolphin, and she essentially, half of her apartment was underwater.
Like, her house was half submerged, so the dolphin would come in and out of the house and sleep with her and then go into a tank.
rich benoit
It was like her husband or something?
joe rogan
That was the problem.
She was jerking the dolphin off.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Because the dolphin, like, would be distracted all the time.
rich benoit
Yeah, but the dolphin stayed.
joe rogan
Well, of course.
It got jerked off all the time.
So they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're paying for what?
They were trying to teach the dolphin a talk.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
So they were trying to teach the dolphin English words.
But the problem was dolphins don't have lips.
They can't make the sounds.
rich benoit
Yeah, their vocal cords can't make the sounds what we do.
joe rogan
So they were trying to get it to go, holla!
A lot of work for this a lot of work for hello But it was really obvious that they have some sort of language right and so Lily who is obsessed with it He would set up a sensory deprivation tank right outside the dolphin tank and take acid and Give acid to the dolphins and he was trying to communicate with them.
He was trying to communicate with them like in some sort of a Like neighboring dimension, right?
He was a trip.
I mean that guy he would take intramuscular ketamine and Shoot it into his meat of his body and then lie in the tank and have these crazy ketamine trips while he's in the tank.
rich benoit
Why?
joe rogan
Well, I don't know because I've never experienced ketamine.
But apparently there's something about that particular drug that lends itself very well to the sensory deprivation experience.
At least for Lily.
It's very addictive too.
rich benoit
Then you bought the tank.
joe rogan
Well, I heard about that.
And then I read a book called The Deep Self.
And that was a book that Lily wrote about...
I think that one even had instruction on how to build a tank.
He actually had set up all these plans for how you...
Like a blueprint for how to build your own tank.
Use waterbed liners.
rich benoit
It's probably pretty easy, right?
Get a kiddie pool, throw a liner in it.
joe rogan
A bunch of people have done it.
rich benoit
A bunch of people have done it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can do it, but you really need...
rich benoit
Is there a filter at all?
Probably not, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very heavy-duty filtration system.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because the one that I have is, it's a company called the Float Lab, and the Float Lab is, like, the best, they make the best tanks.
And the guy who makes it is my friend Crash, and he's, like, a super scientist dude who's, like, a mad genius when it comes to tanks.
He's, like, over-engineering everything and making everything, like, as complicated as he can.
rich benoit
I didn't realize so much went into it, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll show you the whole system.
It's like all that stuff that's in the back of it is essentially from a public water purification system.
It's super heavy-duty purification.
And it even pumps ozone into the water.
rich benoit
Oh, no shit.
So what do you do when, so let's just say someone were to go in there, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
You just had a fight, whatever.
You want to relax.
You go in there.
When the person comes out, does the water change or is it just a filtered system?
joe rogan
It's the same water.
The water is being filtered.
But nobody – the only people that have been in that thing are Dan Harris from Good Morning America and me.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's the only one that ever took me up on the offer to climb in there.
Most guys go, yeah, yeah, I'll go in there.
And then they go, oh, what the fuck am I doing?
rich benoit
That's basically what I did.
You're like, you should go in.
I was like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Love you, buddy.
joe rogan
Take all your clothes off and climb into my little tank.
rich benoit
Literally, yeah.
I was stripped naked, Rich.
joe rogan
Oh, there's definitely no cameras there.
Don't worry about that.
rich benoit
How do I know that?
joe rogan
Get that out of your head.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trust me.
But I bet, I guarantee you, Boston.
But Google sensory deprivation tanks in Boston.
I guarantee you.
rich benoit
Oh, it's like a public service thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of places where you go and you rent them and it's like, you know, 50 bucks for an hour or something like that.
rich benoit
That's not bad at all.
joe rogan
It's worth it, man.
There you go.
Float.
Restoration therapy.
Where's it at?
unidentified
Float Boston.
rich benoit
I emerge more relaxed than I ever could.
joe rogan
There you go.
rich benoit
$80 for 90 minutes.
joe rogan
It's in Somerville.
On Medford Street in Somerville.
There you go.
unidentified
Pa-pow.
rich benoit
What if I come out and someone steals my clothes?
joe rogan
$80 for 90 minutes.
rich benoit
I thought it was a risk, right?
joe rogan
Well, I hope not.
I hope nobody steals your clothes.
Usually, like, you're in a room and you get to lock it.
rich benoit
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
It looks so crazy.
rich benoit
Do kids do it, too?
joe rogan
Is a kid in there?
My kids are scared of it, but, yeah, they could do it.
That's where, like, they draw the line with Daddy.
They're not interested in floating.
rich benoit
Wow.
joe rogan
They'll eat bear meat, but they won't float.
rich benoit
They won't float?
joe rogan
Too weird.
It feels great, man.
I'm telling you.
And it's also a great way for your body to absorb magnesium.
Because, you know, Epsom salt baths are great when you have sore muscles.
Well, when you get into this, this is so much Epsom salt.
You float in it, and your muscles loosen up, and it kind of like...
Like, all little impingements and tight areas.
rich benoit
Oh, that's a tank.
joe rogan
Loosen up.
Yeah, that's one.
rich benoit
It's a little pod.
Yours looks like a safe.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's much bigger.
Yeah.
See, this is a...
rich benoit
Is there a two-person tank?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Would you want to go...
rich benoit
You can't go with another person, right?
joe rogan
No, that would be annoying.
If your wife wanted to go, come on, what should we talk about?
We're talking about nothing!
rich benoit
Yeah, get away from me.
joe rogan
We're not here to talk!
rich benoit
That's why I'm here, not to talk to you.
joe rogan
Okay, before we go into the next dimension, I have to know about the curtains.
rich benoit
I have six questions.
joe rogan
I want to buy these curtains.
Yeah.
What is this?
Samadhi's new lily pad.
A float tank that hides in a daybed.
Bam!
Samadhi is the company that I bought my first tank from.
They make great stuff.
So that is...
rich benoit
That looks terrifying, though.
What if someone's sitting on it and you can't get out?
joe rogan
Oh, that's true.
rich benoit
Like, hey, really, can you get off this thing?
I really want to get out of here.
I'm getting scared.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like a fat dude gets drunk and falls asleep on the lid.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you run out of air.
Like, fuck!
rich benoit
Wait, you can't run out of air.
joe rogan
There's no air, bro.
There's no air in there.
rich benoit
What?
So eventually you could.
joe rogan
No, no.
rich benoit
They pump air in there.
Don't do this to me.
joe rogan
There's actually a variable speed fan in the one that I have that pumps in oxygen.
Okay.
Purified air.
rich benoit
Okay.
joe rogan
So it purifies the air and pumps it in there.
rich benoit
So not everyone's is that safe, though.
No.
It's like a sealed system.
joe rogan
That one right there, the daybed one, could be a real issue if you had said drunk fat guy.
rich benoit
Yeah, Rich, you have 37 minutes of air left.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like an escape room.
That's another one.
rich benoit
I think I'm in space or something.
jamie vernon
It has lights on it.
joe rogan
What, Jamie?
jamie vernon
This is what yours looks like, but it has lights.
rich benoit
Oh, that's badass.
unidentified
Similar.
rich benoit
That's what yours looks like?
jamie vernon
Sorta.
Sorta not.
joe rogan
Similar.
rich benoit
Fiyo's is like black.
It's like, whoa.
joe rogan
Mine is the state of the art.
rich benoit
You have lights inside of yours?
joe rogan
No, there's no lights.
I don't need lights, bro.
I know what I'm doing.
I had one of these in 2002, so I've had one forever.
I love them.
We should all love them.
I think they're one of the best tools ever for thinking.
rich benoit
What else is a good thinking tool?
joe rogan
Marijuana.
rich benoit
Yeah, I heard you like marijuana.
joe rogan
Yeah, do you?
rich benoit
You know what?
I have an interesting thing for you.
joe rogan
What do you got?
rich benoit
A couple things.
So, because I'm on a budget, I lit my job and everything.
I stayed at a hostel.
joe rogan
Damn!
rich benoit
I'm doing some broke people shit, right?
You ever stay at a hostel?
joe rogan
Probably not.
rich benoit
No, I've never stayed at a hostel.
So in case you don't know what a hostel is, which everyone listening to knows what a hostel is, it's I shared a room with three other people at bunk beds, right?
Right.
So Massachusetts just said, "Hey, listen, we're going to allow marijuana," but it's still kind of like a taboo thing, right?
They don't want it getting too widespread.
So when I came here to the hostel, I walked in and there's a giant bag of marijuana on And I was like, I'm sorry, is someone selling this?
Is this?
Like, no, it's for you, man.
Like, we welcome all our guests like this.
You can have as much as you want.
I was like, where am I right now?
It's crazy.
It's crazy shit, man.
joe rogan
Dude, I did B-Real's smoke box the other day.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think I'm just starting to be not high.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
From that.
From the other day.
Is it out?
I don't know if he's released it yet.
Anyway, they gave me a bag of weed that every time I open up the trunk of my Tesla, it's like, whoa!
Went over a skunk?
rich benoit
I'm not very familiar with smoking marijuana.
I think I've done it like once.
joe rogan
You work for the government?
rich benoit
I don't know.
So I did it like once.
And I try to be cool.
Like, yeah, you smoke, right?
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Who doesn't, right, man?
So they offered me this big bag of weed, and I was, like, terrified.
joe rogan
You should be.
rich benoit
Because the thing is, like, if I try it, I want to be where I'm somewhere safe.
unidentified
I'm not going to do...
rich benoit
I mean, it's only marijuana.
It's not like, you know...
joe rogan
But you don't want to freak out.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
That could happen.
And you should only take a little.
Like, if you're going to...
This is what you do.
You go like this, like this, like...
Just a little.
Just a touch.
There's the smoke box.
First of all, be real, smoked me in a coma.
I quit maybe five minutes into the smoke box.
I was like, what in the fuck am I doing?
We got high before we got into the smoke box, too.
There's like levels of stoners.
rich benoit
So smoke boxes, were you in a car?
It was like a dedicated system.
joe rogan
That's the car.
It's an old Cadillac.
Look how barbecued I am.
I can't even keep my eyes open.
unidentified
Wait, that's you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm like, I can't believe he's still smoking.
rich benoit
He doesn't even look like you.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
I'm so high, I'm in another dimension.
unidentified
Holy shit.
rich benoit
It looks like your freaking great-grandfather or something.
joe rogan
Oh, look at me.
That's weird lighting.
rich benoit
That's crazy.
joe rogan
What Be Real does is he gets you in that car, and then everybody has a fat tube, like a big giant joint of the most ridiculous weed on the planet Earth.
There's none stronger.
rich benoit
So I don't understand.
What's the point of having a joint?
Just go in the car and get high that way?
joe rogan
Everybody's so hot.
You can't breathe.
There's no air in there.
When I got out of there, my inside of my mouth was cooked.
jamie vernon
If he's never smoked weed, he doesn't understand the hotbox concept.
rich benoit
I don't understand.
This is all new to me.
joe rogan
All that smoke, you're breathing in, right?
So you're smoking it, so you're getting high from that.
And then you're breathing in other people's smoke.
You're getting extra high.
rich benoit
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
There's no air.
rich benoit
So why not just go in there and just be like, hey, you know what?
I'm just going to sit in here for five minutes and get high and then get out.
joe rogan
You'd get high from that.
I probably wouldn't get really high from that.
I probably would feel it.
rich benoit
Do you smoke every day?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
Every other day?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
Sundays only?
joe rogan
No.
But I've been taking this stuff every day.
rich benoit
What is that?
joe rogan
It's a DMT? This is CBD with THC. It's 10 milligrams of THC and 10 milligrams of CBD. So it's not a lot of THC, but it's enough.
rich benoit
So you just put those pills in your coffee or something?
joe rogan
No, just swallow it.
It's like a little gel cap.
rich benoit
Well, isn't that not fun because you're not smoking it?
joe rogan
No, that's what I'm saying.
rich benoit
Oh, look at that.
It's like a fish oil pill.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
But it's CBD oil with THC. It's a hemp oil.
rich benoit
So you just pop it in.
joe rogan
Yeah, just swallow it.
rich benoit
No, I take that back.
I did have marijuana chocolate.
joe rogan
When was this?
rich benoit
Yeah, this was like last year.
joe rogan
How'd it go?
rich benoit
Nothing.
It was like nothing.
I probably didn't take enough.
My friend's like, he didn't take enough.
So I had it.
Oh, that's the worst.
An hour later, this is dumb.
I just sat there, got a little high.
And I was just like, eh, wore off and went to sleep and it was fine.
I didn't take enough.
joe rogan
Yeah, you definitely didn't take enough.
I was worried the other way.
rich benoit
Yeah, I take too much.
This is dumb to have like five more pieces of chocolate.
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's what people do.
The worst thing that anybody could ever say when they eat pot is, man, I don't feel shit.
rich benoit
This is dumb.
joe rogan
And then they take another one.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then it kicks in.
And then it gets in your DNA. And you're like, oh no.
rich benoit
Then your kids are high.
joe rogan
And then you're on a ride.
You're on a ride for like hours.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
I have a friend who ate too many edibles and he was high for 27 or 28 hours.
rich benoit
Wow.
joe rogan
A full day later he was still high and it took like four hours after that.
rich benoit
What is this guy doing?
What is this guy doing?
He's a leaf blower?
joe rogan
What is that doing?
jamie vernon
He's making a giant hotbox out of his tent, but I was just showing you the biggest idea of what it gets and why you would want to do that.
joe rogan
See, some stoners like that girl right there, they just get too high.
Like me, when I was in the hotbox.
So what's too high?
unidentified
It's not good for you.
rich benoit
What can you not do?
joe rogan
Everything.
You can't do anything.
You're not even good at talking.
rich benoit
So is it like getting drunk?
joe rogan
No!
No, no, no.
You get paranoid.
You get freaked out.
You think about people you fingered in high school.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
You start...
You fucking, you comb over everything you've ever done ever that might be even remotely questionable.
rich benoit
So why would you want to get high then?
joe rogan
Well, I think there's a lot of, first of all, that's too high.
That's like paranoia.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I think it gives you like a self-examination that I think is probably critical for people to just examine.
Like maybe you would be thinking about your life.
unidentified
Yeah.
rich benoit
Yeah, it puts you in the zone.
joe rogan
Like, if you got high and you started thinking about this job you're quitting, like, why the fuck would I stay with this job?
God, I could be here forever.
You can start getting paranoid and think about what it's going to be like if I'm 60 years old, I'm still here, and I wish I took a chance, but now it's too late, and I'm tired, and I don't have the energy to do it anymore.
rich benoit
Or I left, and now I'm on skid row.
joe rogan
Fuck.
rich benoit
What'd I do?
joe rogan
I don't think like that.
rich benoit
Yeah.
So you think very positively.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think if negative shit happens, like, you should be aware that it can, but to dwell on it, I think, is not empowering at all.
I think what's empowering is, like, if you were a person who was 90 years old and you lived a boring-ass, stupid life working at a shitty job, but then someone gave you a chance and said, How would you like to be...
You say you're 36?
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
How would you like to be 36 again?
With vitality and youth and energy and ambition.
And you've already got something going on.
You've already got a YouTube channel with like 450,000 subscribers.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What would you think...
What would you be willing to do to try again?
rich benoit
Anything.
joe rogan
You say anything.
I want to live a fulfilled life, a life that I enjoy.
Well, that's you right now.
So that's how I look at things.
I look at things like, what would I like to be?
If I was someone who was broken down and beaten by life and exhausted and I never took any chances, what would I do now?
I would say, if I could be that guy that is willing to just try, to just take risks and carve a path for yourself, I would want to be that guy.
I would want to live a fulfilled life.
rich benoit
Be your future self.
joe rogan
Fucking anybody could do that, man.
Anybody could do that.
That's not...
Cost prohibitive.
It's dangerous, there's risks, but that's why it's good.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
If you knew you could, like if you ever play a video game in god mode and just run around shooting everything and you can't die, it's boring.
rich benoit
That's dumb.
joe rogan
It's boring.
What's exciting is you could die.
rich benoit
Right.
Dying is exciting.
joe rogan
Just like real life.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's exciting is risk.
You don't want to be that guy who's just barely alive, but alive.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
rich benoit
He's getting by.
He's existing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
I don't want to exist.
You're going to live, man.
joe rogan
So, we worked it out.
You're going to do stand-up?
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
I'm going to go hand-gliding.
rich benoit
I want to go hand-gliding.
All I want to do right now is just smoke marijuana and then go hand-gliding.
joe rogan
Hand-gliding is how one of the greatest jiu-jitsu artists of all time holds Gracie.
That's how he died.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
He's one of the greatest of all time.
rich benoit
But I'm not uplifted anymore, Joe.
You told me about this uplifting thing and dying.
What the hell is going on here?
joe rogan
There's no reward.
If you land, oh great, you're still alive.
There's no reward.
Well, you got to almost die flying around.
rich benoit
But now I'm confused.
joe rogan
Dude, slam into a cliff, bro.
rich benoit
But wait a minute, but you just said that it's an exciting thing.
You could almost die.
joe rogan
If you quit your job and then you take a path that you may or may not succeed on, if you do succeed, you're going to feel invigorated.
You took a chance and you won.
rich benoit
It's like an adrenaline rush in a way.
jamie vernon
I saw this, right?
joe rogan
Oh no!
rich benoit
What happened?
joe rogan
Is this a mishap?
rich benoit
Oh no!
jamie vernon
Just watch for a second.
See what you think is wrong here in the first 10 seconds.
I can't show this to everybody.
Online people know what's up.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he's not attached.
jamie vernon
I'll just wait.
rich benoit
Who's in charge here?
jamie vernon
The guy in the blue.
He's the leader guy.
And good luck here.
rich benoit
Oh, crap.
jamie vernon
They are flying, and he is holding on tight.
rich benoit
By her neck.
jamie vernon
And they are very high.
rich benoit
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
And they're going higher.
rich benoit
Oh, my God.
Just to be clear, this is a very...
jamie vernon
This lasts four minutes.
rich benoit
This is like a...
joe rogan
This lasts four minutes?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
First of all...
joe rogan
Look at this.
rich benoit
Turn around.
jamie vernon
Do you know how...
joe rogan
Do you have any idea how hard it is to hold on...
rich benoit
Yes.
For two minutes.
joe rogan
For four minutes.
rich benoit
Yeah.
Even two minutes is hard.
joe rogan
How did this guy do this?
How did he manage to hang on?
jamie vernon
Look.
I don't know.
Like, they're...
The person in blue is holding on.
He's got one hand on him.
rich benoit
I would do a pull-up and I say this now.
I do a pull-up and get my arm over it.
joe rogan
He might not be able to.
The drag of the wind.
How does he hang on?
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
Make it down to the bottom.
joe rogan
It is amazing.
His grip strength is incredible.
rich benoit
Dude, his forearm is supposed to be huge, man.
joe rogan
His grip strength is incredible.
rich benoit
And he let go.
What a chicken.
He couldn't wait until he got to the actual ground.
joe rogan
He probably couldn't.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
rich benoit
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
Well, I don't even think the guy even really landed.
rich benoit
This is a very high-definition video.
What was it taking on?
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
What's a GoPro?
jamie vernon
Powerful GoPro.
rich benoit
Wow.
joe rogan
Proper way to land.
Dick first.
Fuck that, sport.
unidentified
Fuck that.
joe rogan
What if you hit a rock?
The lock scrams.
jamie vernon
Back up?
Surgery to fix his wrist.
unidentified
What does he say?
joe rogan
Upon impact, my right wrist suffered a fragmented distal radius fracture, which required surgery.
rich benoit
Damn, son.
joe rogan
He got left.
unidentified
Yeah, but that's the thing.
rich benoit
So, like, he took a risk, but, like, there's a reward.
The reward's like that adrenaline rush.
joe rogan
That's an asshole.
rich benoit
People go hand gliding and stuff, like hand gliding, parasailing, all the water sports.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get a little bit of an adrenaline rush.
rich benoit
You know?
joe rogan
I mean, if you want to live for that little drug, the little adrenaline drug, go ahead.
rich benoit
What if you went hunting, right?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Oh, he also tore his bicep tending from holding on as long as he did.
rich benoit
Wow.
unidentified
Damn.
jamie vernon
Stay alive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Face something tomorrow?
Wow.
Jeez.
Fuck.
So, what if you went hunting, right?
And you didn't kill anything?
Is it still fun?
joe rogan
Happens all the time.
Yeah.
Sure.
rich benoit
So, it's the thought that you might catch something.
joe rogan
Well, it's not even that.
You don't say catch.
rich benoit
Oh, sorry.
You just kill something.
Destroy something.
joe rogan
No, no.
rich benoit
Hunt.
End something's life.
joe rogan
Well, if you run and water it down, they call it harvest.
rich benoit
Really?
unidentified
They're harvesting.
joe rogan
Harvesting it out.
They actually do.
Bro, it's not a pumpkin.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a fucking deer.
rich benoit
It's a freaking deer, asshole.
joe rogan
You killed it.
rich benoit
Stop playing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's difficult to do.
But if you do, that's one of the reasons why when you do do it, it feels like you accomplished something.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that's the positive aspect of it.
The positive aspect of it is that there's a reward if you can pull it off.
Not just that you, like, survive.
Like, I want to go running with the bulls.
rich benoit
Fuck you!
Yeah, I lived.
Awesome.
Yeah, I guess that's a good point to think about it.
Rollercoasters.
joe rogan
I like roller coasters, but I have kids.
rich benoit
Okay.
joe rogan
I like roller coasters for my kids.
It was just for me.
I wouldn't go to the fucking Disneyland.
rich benoit
But you like them because of your- My kids like it.
So I guess why do people- They love it.
That's why people like that.
They like roller coasters because it's like an adrenaline rush.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It gives you a little adrenaline rush.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I feel uncomfortable because I feel like if I die, this would be so stupid.
I didn't need to do this.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
But I did this for a cheap thrill and it broke and I went flying off into the fucking street.
rich benoit
Yeah, good point.
joe rogan
Good point, yeah.
You know those weird carnivals that pull up in your neighborhood?
rich benoit
Oh, God.
The townie, hokey-looking ones?
You pull up in six trucks, and it unfolds as a checker's board.
joe rogan
Dude, one of them came to my neighborhood, and they had this fucking thing where you spin around really fast, you stick to the wall.
rich benoit
Not for a pop-up car.
joe rogan
I took pictures of the way it was set up.
I think it's on Instagram.
You probably won't be able to find it.
I took pictures, this was like years ago, of the way this thing was on five or six different two-by-fours.
It was on blocks and shit.
It was so wonky.
And people were climbing in there, oh boy, this is great!
rich benoit
I feel like your chances of dying at those things are like 98% higher.
unidentified
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
There's the picture.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
How dare you find that so quickly?
How'd you find that?
jamie vernon
I'm a Google master.
rich benoit
That's pretty damn good.
joe rogan
You're a Google master.
But look at that thing.
Look how stupid that is.
So you can see the stacks of wood?
That is so goddamn dumb.
rich benoit
That's hokey as hell, man.
joe rogan
That's hokey as hell!
They have to do that to balance it out because they put that fucking thing on a hill.
rich benoit
So what were you doing there?
Your kids were on that?
joe rogan
No, I didn't let them get on that thing.
unidentified
For shame.
joe rogan
I didn't let them get on that thing.
But, you know, you squirt the fucking gun, the clown face, and the balloon pops, and you win a stupid prize.
rich benoit
What would you nail at one of those carnivals?
What do you, like, kill every time?
joe rogan
I'm not good at anything.
rich benoit
Yeah, neither am I. It's said to be against you.
unidentified
It sucks.
joe rogan
So I want to bring it back to Aliens.
rich benoit
Yeah, yeah, God, yeah, please.
joe rogan
We've got to wrap this up.
It's already 3 o'clock.
rich benoit
Please, please, please, yeah.
joe rogan
We've been doing this for three hours, man.
rich benoit
Are you shitting me?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, for real.
rich benoit
Damn.
All right.
joe rogan
If the aliens came to you and said, Rich, we're going to give you this technology and information, but you can't tell anyone else, would you be willing to?
rich benoit
What technology?
joe rogan
What if the government brings you to Area 51 like Bob Lazar?
And they bring you down to the base.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they show you an alien spacecraft and they go, we're going to let you examine this.
We know that you love to tinker and back-engineer things, but you can't tell anybody.
Are you in?
rich benoit
I do it in a heartbeat.
Why the hell not?
joe rogan
Because you owe us the rest of the human race.
Like these fucking assholes in the government, they're going to keep you from telling us the truth?
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't you think it would affect the whole world if we knew the truth?
rich benoit
Honestly, I'd probably tell everyone anyways, because the fact that they called the Tesla guy to go down there, of course you're going to rat them out.
joe rogan
Well, that's who I would call.
If I was the government, I wouldn't call some respectable scientist from Stanford.
I would call some dude who would be easily discredited.
Some guy who maybe is a little fudgy with his science reports.
rich benoit
Suspicious.
joe rogan
Maybe plagiarized a little bit in college, but he knows his shit.
rich benoit
That's me, yeah.
unidentified
That's funny.
joe rogan
No, I would go with some guy who's, what is that, autodactic?
Is that the word?
Someone learns themselves?
Is that what the word is?
unidentified
Yeah, whatever.
joe rogan
There's a lot, right?
Is that the word?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of geniuses out there that just don't have the credentials.
Very smart people.
jamie vernon
Autodidact, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, autodidact.
Take that guy.
Take that guy.
rich benoit
Would you do that?
joe rogan
No, I'd tell everybody.
rich benoit
Why?
joe rogan
100%.
rich benoit
Why would you?
joe rogan
Because I wouldn't trust those assholes.
rich benoit
You don't owe anyone anything.
joe rogan
Because I would want everyone to know.
rich benoit
What are they going to do with it?
They're just going to freak out.
joe rogan
I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
Really?
100%.
Yeah.
If the government wants to tell me some secrets, let me tell you something.
I'll tell everybody.
rich benoit
Yeah.
Would you say that first?
joe rogan
I would definitely tell them I'm telling everybody.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
I would say don't show it to me.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I would say don't show it to me.
rich benoit
But that's not progressing the human race forward.
Because the goal is for you to see it and confirm it.
Right?
You want to see it, confirm it, and tell everyone.
What are you going to say?
joe rogan
I don't want to die.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
And I don't want them to kill me.
So I would say, listen.
rich benoit
They wouldn't kill you for that.
joe rogan
Maybe people have died already and we don't know.
rich benoit
Damn.
unidentified
It's deep.
joe rogan
Maybe, bro.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look into it.
I don't know.
It would be a thing where, in all honesty, it depends on what stage of my life.
If I was 30 years old and they said, I'm going to show you this, but you can't show anybody, are you willing?
I'd be like, yeah, sure, show me.
But at 50, I'd be like, no.
No, I'm not making any deals.
I don't want to make a deal where you tell me that I can't tell anybody about something.
I mean, it's one thing if it's a business thing.
Like, hey, Apple's going to show you the new iPhone, don't tell anybody.
Oh, for sure, I won't tell anybody.
Fine.
This is something that can affect the human race.
rich benoit
How would the confirmation of aliens affect the human race, you think?
Like, yes, there are aliens.
Now what?
What are we going to do?
joe rogan
Realistically, you would have to have confirmation that was undeniable.
And your own eyewitness testimony is not good enough.
rich benoit
They'll just think you're crazy.
They'll shoot you anyways.
joe rogan
Exactly.
They'll just think you're a fool.
And they'll just make you look like a dunce.
And it would actually probably help their cause.
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Because no one would ever believe you.
And no one would take aliens seriously after that.
Which is one of the arguments for what they actually did with Project Blue Book.
Yeah.
There was a guy named Philip Corso, and J. Allen Hynek was the guy who was running Project Blue Book.
And one of the things they famously said after it was over, that they would just try to debunk things and make these things look foolish.
And then anything they found that they couldn't explain, they just tucked away.
But the things that they could explain, even if the explanation didn't jive, they came up with an explanation just to make people realize that aliens were bullshit.
But he, through the course of Project Blue Book, studying...
Now you have to ask this question.
Through the end of it, he decided that aliens were real and that we had been contacted.
However, you always have to question whether someone is doing that because this is a new avenue for them to make money.
Is this a new stream of revenue?
I'm going to do the lecture circuit.
I'm going to write books.
I mean, if you're a guy who worked for Project Blue Book and then they shut Project Blue Book down, you don't have any more money.
rich benoit
Yeah, you're broke.
joe rogan
And you decide, well, I don't want to work for the government anymore.
You know what I want to do?
I want to write stories about UFOs.
rich benoit
I'm going to start a podcast.
joe rogan
Fuck these assholes.
I mean, J. Allen Hynek died a long time ago, I believe, right?
Google J. Allen Hynek Project Blue Book UFOs.
I'm pretty sure there's interviews where afterwards he said he is sure, after all of his time studying, that there is and has been some contact with extraterrestrials.
rich benoit
So what do you think?
joe rogan
I don't know.
See, me personally, I have zero experience, right?
rich benoit
Who does have experience?
joe rogan
Someone might.
What do you got?
What are you laughing at?
jamie vernon
Man, I don't want to talk about it yet.
joe rogan
You don't want to talk about it yet?
jamie vernon
I'm not ready to talk about it yet.
Stuff I've been looking into about this topic.
This guy worked at that company I've told you about.
joe rogan
In Columbus, Ohio?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
He also is a teacher of physics and astronomy at Ohio State in 1936. So you think there's some real shit going down?
rich benoit
Maybe.
joe rogan
You think some real shit's going down?
jamie vernon
I don't know about all the alien technologies or beings or aliens or something.
There's something going on, and it has to do with that company, and it has to do with everything you're talking about in Project Blue Book.
I don't know what it is, though.
rich benoit
That's very vague.
jamie vernon
I know.
joe rogan
Super vague.
rich benoit
Yeah, something's going on, guys.
jamie vernon
I can't, because to me it doesn't seem fair to just go with the big conspiracy, but there are facts that you can look up and find.
joe rogan
So once you get to the bottom of your investigation, you'll have a report for it?
jamie vernon
Sure, yeah.
unidentified
We'll talk to you.
jamie vernon
I'm not ready to, because it sounds a little too crazy right now.
I want to leave some of the crazy stuff out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's one of those subjects that inherently starts looking crazy until aliens show up.
What was that movie?
What was the recent movie where they spoke in smoke?
rich benoit
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Arrival.
Arrival.
If something like that shows up.
Then, all of a sudden, our perceptions completely change.
rich benoit
It's like, oh, wait.
joe rogan
It's undeniable.
There's, like, some giant Los Angeles-sized thing floating over the continental U.S. Yeah.
We'd be like, okay.
unidentified
All right.
rich benoit
So, how's the thing?
So, why would you...
So, if we...
Let's just say we had a microscope, right?
Periscope or whatever.
Whatever you call it.
Look in the space really far.
unidentified
Telescope.
rich benoit
Telescope, yeah.
Periscope.
If I wasn't a submarine...
We all live.
unidentified
So...
rich benoit
And we see an alien, you know, colony.
joe rogan
Yes.
rich benoit
Unlike Mars.
unidentified
Yes.
rich benoit
What would we do?
joe rogan
We'd study it.
We'd try to communicate with it.
But would that be a good move?
Like, what if they came over to us and they'll go, oh, look at these fucking dumb chimps.
rich benoit
Do you think any foreign or alien species would think we're idiots?
joe rogan
A hundred percent of them would think we're idiots.
Yeah, if they're advanced to the point where they've gotten control of their emotions and anger.
I mean, just think about how much tribal warfare goes on still in America, in the world.
You know, how much...
How warfare is taking place?
How many people are dying?
How many innocent people are dying?
Drones, all that kind of stuff.
They'd be aware of all that.
They'd be aware of our polluting of the environment.
They'd be aware of our depleting the ocean of its fish.
They're just pulling in giant nets filled with fish.
rich benoit
A caching fish medium.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you people doing?
They'd be looking at coal plants and the President of the United States, the greatest superpower the world has ever known, saying things like, clean coal.
Like, clean coal!
rich benoit
What do you think?
Okay, so someone comes to visit us, right?
What's the dumbest thing that they're going to notice the first?
They can say, oh wow, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
What's the number one thing?
You visit our planet, the number one dumbest thing they're going to see and be like...
joe rogan
They're probably going to think pollution is the number one dumbest.
Like, you guys are shitting in the environment that you need to sustain you.
Right.
And you're doing this in...
It's not like you don't have the resources to fix that.
rich benoit
With infinite money.
joe rogan
Yeah, we have incredible amounts of money, but yet the money's not going towards that.
Massive resources should be going to removing carbon from the atmosphere, removing particulates from the atmosphere.
Yeah, like brake dust and all the shit that's in these cities.
These cars are constantly slamming on their brakes.
That dust that you have to clean off your wheels, that shit's everywhere.
rich benoit
Yeah, right.
It's in your lungs, baby.
joe rogan
It's fucking everywhere.
It takes years off people's lives.
It absolutely does.
They would look at all that.
They would go, why aren't they looking at that?
Why don't they have some sort of system in place to mitigate all the problems they've created in terms of like, oh, they got rid of plastic straws.
rich benoit
Right, yeah.
joe rogan
Keep the caps, though.
Keep the bottles.
rich benoit
The caps are fine.
joe rogan
Keep the tabs that you pull off of things.
Keep plastic wrap.
Everything's plastic.
rich benoit
What do you think of those new disintegrating straws, by the way?
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
rich benoit
It's like...
joe rogan
I want to keep around a stainless steel one.
unidentified
You should.
rich benoit
But you have to clean it, though.
I was thinking about that same thing.
joe rogan
You can just stab somebody if somebody attacks you.
If you get one that's got a good point.
rich benoit
Sharper in the end?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Oh, I'm sorry.
Did I stab your throat?
joe rogan
Just punch a hole through them like that Walking Dead crossbow bolt.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think that's the big one that they would get.
They would go, wow, these people are crazy.
The other thing they would say is the nuclear power thing.
When you find out things like the Fukushima plant, they didn't have any sort of backup plan to shut it down.
You don't know what happens if your generator goes out.
Oh, well, we're fucked.
Now it's a nuclear meltdown and everything dies forever.
Yeah, they didn't plan on that.
Like, the fact that they built these plants and they have no idea how to shut them off.
Like, that's crazy.
The aliens are probably like, these people are out of their fucking mind.
They're smart enough to figure out how to harness nuclear power.
But what they use it for is to generate steam.
Constant.
And it has to stay on forever.
That's why they put them near the oceans.
Like, these guys are assholes.
rich benoit
It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
The other thing, too, is that how would you...
Let's just say things are going to shit really quickly.
joe rogan
Right.
rich benoit
There's a nuclear power plant that's going to blow up any second.
unidentified
Any second.
rich benoit
How would you...
I know you're an outdoorsy guy.
You hunt.
You kill.
Harvest, as they say.
How long do you think you could survive if things went to shit really quickly?
If you had to survive, you have all the money you want, right?
But how long do you think you could survive in the wilderness?
joe rogan
It would be very hard.
It's not easy.
And not only that, you've got to get through the winter.
So you're going to have to build some sort of a shelter.
rich benoit
There's no winter here, though, is there?
joe rogan
I mean, not in LA, but in Big Bear, which is only a couple hours north of here.
I mean, there's plenty of places where you could drive in a couple hours.
You could go to Big Bear, and then you can go down to the beach.
You could experience the desert.
You could experience a lot of different climates.
It would really depend upon where you were stuck and what you would eat.
So the thing is, if you want to stay in the L.A. area, you're dead.
Because you're not going to be able to eat shit.
There's nothing here.
rich benoit
Would you stay in your house?
Would you migrate?
You have kids and a wife.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to get out of here.
rich benoit
So you'd leave.
You'd drive your Tesla.
Right.
Which car would you take?
joe rogan
No way.
rich benoit
What?
joe rogan
No way.
rich benoit
There was a big debate that I had.
In a crisis situation, right?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
rich benoit
Would you take the Tesla?
No.
What would you take?
joe rogan
I have a Toyota Land Cruiser with a 40-gallon gas tank.
I got an apocalypse mobile.
rich benoit
I went through a big debate.
I got shit on so much for this.
I said the same exact thing.
I was like, listen, in an oh shit situation, I would leave the Tesla behind.
joe rogan
Who argued with you about that?
rich benoit
A lot of people.
I would leave that behind.
I'd take my pickup truck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rich benoit
Or Tacoma.
That's what you do.
I fill it with gas.
I just drive.
joe rogan
100%.
rich benoit
Well, you know, in an emergency crisis situation, you don't have access to the gas.
What if the gasoline didn't work?
joe rogan
You go to the liquor store, you fill it up with alcohol.
rich benoit
Remember we had the hurricane in Florida a while back?
Now, everyone was saying, like, yeah, the gas pumps wouldn't work because the electricity was shut off.
Mm-hmm.
But the superchargers still work, and you can get to your destination still, and Tesla's used less energy.
It's like, at the end of the day, I happen to pick up a truck with two shotguns and five things of gasoline and be fine.
I don't understand that.
joe rogan
Yeah, they also make tanks that you can put in your gas tank, in the bed of your truck, rather, that are like these survival tanks.
rich benoit
You can drive as far as you want, 800 miles.
joe rogan
Yeah, and more.
And you drive thousands of miles.
There's a guy who actually, there was a podcast that I was listening to, this guy who is like an extreme prepper.
And he actually made a trip with one tank of gas from Arizona to Canada.
rich benoit
Damn!
joe rogan
He drove all the way up to Canada, all the way across, with one tank of gas.
Because this massive tank in the back of his pickup truck...
It feeds directly into his primary gas tank.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you can get these.
They're like these survival tanks.
And, you know, they'll host like hundreds of gallons of fuel.
rich benoit
But you're also a target.
Oh, yeah.
I'd probably shoot at that guy's car.
That's the other thing, too.
joe rogan
Why would you do that?
rich benoit
I don't know.
joe rogan
All of a sudden, you're lawless.
rich benoit
See what happens?
unidentified
You become a barbarian.
I know.
rich benoit
The lights go off for five minutes.
I want to kill everyone.
joe rogan
You're starting fires.
Shooting cars.
Yeah.
rich benoit
So then, all right.
So you leave.
You take your family, right?
You have your kids.
You have your wife.
Where are you going to go?
You hop in your Land Cruiser.
Where are you going to go?
joe rogan
You have a real problem.
rich benoit
And what are you going to bring?
joe rogan
Well, you would have to bring things to start a fire and things to kill animals.
Those are the things that would be very important.
I would bring guns.
I'd bring bows.
I'd bring ammunition and arrows.
But I would realistically realize that, first of all, I'm not going to make more bullets and I'm not going to make more arrows.
What am I going to do and how long am I going to last?
rich benoit
Would you bring marijuana?
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
Okay.
joe rogan
No.
No, I'd be just trying to stay alive.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you'd also be trying to stay alive for a long period of time.
rich benoit
Right.
You might want to bring it.
joe rogan
No.
rich benoit
Use the pain.
No, really?
What?
joe rogan
No.
It's not going to eat.
I mean, marijuana for pain relief, I mean, I guess it works.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's not what I use it for.
jamie vernon
Pain at night of the impending doom.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd be freaking out even more.
I'm freaking out plenty.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe, I mean, I just, there's no, there's not room.
I would bring water purification tablets.
rich benoit
No food, though.
jamie vernon
I'd bring filters.
rich benoit
You canned food?
joe rogan
I would bring food.
I'd probably bring food in the form of heavy-duty bars that don't take up a lot of space but are dense and nutrient-rich like those green belly bars.
rich benoit
Protein bars.
joe rogan
Yeah, something that has a lot of calories, high calories, in a small package, a small size.
rich benoit
All right.
jamie vernon
Where are you heading?
rich benoit
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Going to the woods.
Yeah, you gotta go somewhere where there's animals.
And even then, you're not gonna make it, and your kids are probably not gonna make it.
That's the real thing is, it's true.
The idea that you're gonna live off of animals, this isn't the Serengeti, man.
There's not a lot of animals.
Unless you're somewhere where you can find a lot of fucking animals.
rich benoit
Right, like rabbits and shit, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, and you gotta keep them, like, you're gonna have to kill them every other day, because they're not gonna last with the heat.
rich benoit
And your kids aren't going to eat a dead rabbit for sure.
They'll eat a dead rabbit.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they'll eat a rabbit.
Yeah, my kids will eat pretty much anything.
rich benoit
Do you know how to start a fire?
joe rogan
Yes.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not easy.
rich benoit
No, it's not.
joe rogan
If you have a string and a bow and two pieces of dried wood and, you know, hardwood and a softer wood, you can do it.
You can do it.
But it ain't easy.
Like starting a bow with one of those...
rich benoit
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
It takes a little while.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
But it's not easy.
You're better off with a flint.
If you have a flint and a piece of metal, you can start a fire pretty easy.
And also, you want to bring with you some tinder.
If you have some dry tinder, you should bring that with you, too.
Look, you're in for a world of hate.
rich benoit
Yeah, I know, man.
joe rogan
A world of shit.
If you want to really survive...
rich benoit
Right.
joe rogan
Whenever I watch those survival shows...
rich benoit
Which I love, by the way.
I'm really into that shit.
joe rogan
They're exciting, right?
rich benoit
Yeah, I'm into that shit.
joe rogan
What would I do?
rich benoit
Yeah.
jamie vernon
What was this guy doing?
This YouTube kind of fed this to me the other day.
joe rogan
300 days a lot.
jamie vernon
He made a self-documentary of him spending 300 days on an island by himself.
unidentified
Jesus.
jamie vernon
He got dropped off with a satellite phone because he ends up getting hurt at some point during it.
rich benoit
Are you cutting his own hand off?
joe rogan
No, it's a fish.
jamie vernon
I'm not showing it on here because there's lots of views.
You can look it up.
300 Days Alone.
He does it.
At the very end of it, his friend meets him and he shows him what he's been doing for the last two weeks all alone.
There's a volcano on this island.
He looked like he freaked out.
He's basically cast away at the end of this fucking documentary.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
jamie vernon
It's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Look, that's a fucking hard thing to do just for your mind.
rich benoit
I couldn't do that.
joe rogan
He's weaving together ropes and shit.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fuck you.
rich benoit
If they put you on an island, how long do you think you'd last?
I'd probably last...
joe rogan
I'd make it.
rich benoit
Maybe 45 minutes.
joe rogan
Depends on if I knew that my family was still alive.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
I will make it.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll figure out a way to make it.
jamie vernon
He found a little pig.
rich benoit
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
He kept it as a pet for a little while.
rich benoit
Oh, I thought it was dead.
He's going to kill it?
No, no, no.
jamie vernon
He kept it as a pet and it ended up running away.
rich benoit
How did he feed it?
jamie vernon
He feeds it.
He shows you what he does.
joe rogan
So it's a wild pig.
rich benoit
How do you even find a pig like that?
joe rogan
Well, it means he's on a very animal-rich environment if he's on an island with pigs.
jamie vernon
Trapped it.
That's wild.
joe rogan
So did he kill any pigs?
jamie vernon
I honestly didn't watch the entire thing.
No, that's the same problem.
I didn't watch the whole thing because it's an hour long.
joe rogan
He's drinking the pig's piss right there.
rich benoit
Look at his.
jamie vernon
It was just really cool when you started talking about that.
unidentified
I just saw it.
joe rogan
What the hell is going on here?
jamie vernon
He brought his dog with us.
rich benoit
He's probably in LA. He's in LA. He's lying.
joe rogan
That guy's in Topanga Canyon.
rich benoit
That guy's in Calabasca.
joe rogan
He's right behind Kanye's house.
jamie vernon
Seriously.
rich benoit
He's behind Kanye's house.
joe rogan
Oh, is this how he caught fish?
jamie vernon
Yeah, the island that he is is right here.
He had some guys drop him off and he just said, don't come back for 300 days.
rich benoit
So wait, how does he charge the batteries for this footage?
joe rogan
You have cell phone chargers that use solar power.
A lot of guys use those.
rich benoit
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, my friend Adam Greentree, he lives in Australia, and every year he comes to America, and he's a bow hunter, and he'd do a one-month trek solo in the mountains hunting for elk, and he uses these solar panels that he lays out, and they charge battery packs, and that's how he charges his phone.
And so he got very famous on Instagram for documenting all this in his Instagram stories.
He got in an altercation with a grizzly bear, and he was documenting it.
You could see in the Instagram story, the bear standing up, No shit.
He's looking at him and coming towards him, and he's got a pistol out.
It turned out the pistol was jammed.
rich benoit
Did he throw it at the bear then?
joe rogan
He didn't have to, but he had it pointed at the...
He didn't even understand that the pistol...
It wasn't his pistol, so he let him borrow it for personal safety in the forest.
And the bullet was the wrong size for the pistol.
rich benoit
It could have blew up in his hand if you're not careful.
joe rogan
Yeah, something.
Who knows?
Damn.
Not good.
rich benoit
But he's fine now, right?
joe rogan
He's okay.
He's Australian, man.
They're a different breed of people.
rich benoit
Yeah, they have some shit down there.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're children of criminals.
That's what it is.
The British people who, back then, when everybody was a criminal, were like, you guys are too crazy.
Get the fuck off our continent.
I'm going to put you in paradise.
Put them in paradise.
rich benoit
Yeah.
But they have crazy animals down there, too.
joe rogan
They do.
rich benoit
Giant spiders and shit.
joe rogan
But the people are cool as fuck, man.
It's like a weird thing.
Like, somehow or another, that worked.
rich benoit
And you've been there, right?
joe rogan
A bunch of times.
Yeah, I love Australia.
rich benoit
What can we do down there?
joe rogan
Well, you should do stand-up down there.
Maybe you should start your tour.
rich benoit
Ooh, yeah, that's a good idea.
unidentified
There you go.
It's expensive.
rich benoit
The thing is, I have no income, really.
Right.
For now.
Yeah, for now.
That's the tough thing, is that...
Staying at that hostel really brought things into perspective.
joe rogan
Snoring, farting.
rich benoit
That's what I'm saying.
People just standing in front of me butt-naked.
I'm like, hey.
joe rogan
Hey.
rich benoit
Whatever.
Hey.
It's just a crazy world, man.
Crazy world.
joe rogan
Listen, dude, I've got to wrap this up.
It's been a pleasure.
I'm really glad we did it.
rich benoit
So am I, man.
joe rogan
I had a feeling it was going to work out this way.
rich benoit
Can I plug my Instagram and my shop?
So check me out.
Instagram at RichieBKid.
R-I-C-H-I-E-B-K-I-D-D. And my YouTube channel, Rich Rebuilds.
And the shop I'm opening, Electrified Garage.
Check it out.
joe rogan
Well, thank you, sir.
This was a lot of fun, man.
And I want you to come back a year from now saying you're doing stand-up.
rich benoit
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything's kicking ass.
rich benoit
I have like a beard.
Like, hey, Joe, man.
Cam Homeless, man.
Sucks.
joe rogan
I was on an island for 300 days.
rich benoit
This sucks, man.
joe rogan
Thank you, brother.
It was awesome.
I really appreciate it.
rich benoit
Thank you, buddy.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody.
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