Feb. 5, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Let's do it. | ||
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Four. | |
| One. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Hello, Travis. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| Thanks for doing this. | ||
| I really appreciate it. | ||
| Stoked to be here. | ||
| It's cool to have you. | ||
| Hey, so I wanted to talk about what we were talking about right before we started. | ||
| I've always watched you play drums, and I'm like, how the fuck does that guy's arms not fall off? | ||
| I mean, you have so much repetitive motion. | ||
| I've never understood how you could do that. | ||
| Just barely. | ||
| Pull this thing right up like a fist from your face. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| I always do battle ropes. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That must do something. | ||
| Constantly. | ||
| I'll do 30 minutes. | ||
| Not high intensity the whole time, but just keep my shoulders and arms moving as I prepare for a tour. | ||
| But yeah, I think my wrists probably have gone through the most hell over the years. | ||
| I just feel like just normal people's wrist strength I probably don't have because there's been so much grinding. | ||
| They... | ||
| Pop and do all sorts of weird things. | ||
| But I feel like because I do battle ropes and because I box and I kind of work out fast twitch muscles, I really don't get tired. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Because so many people have repetitive stress injuries. | ||
| Even secretaries, they get carpal tunnel. | ||
| People who ride a lot get carpal tunnel. | ||
| Kids are getting injuries on their thumbs from fucking around with their phone too much. | ||
| I felt like when I smoked cigarettes a lot, I was feeling kind of the first symptoms of that stuff. | ||
| I wasn't drinking a lot. | ||
| I was kind of a dumpster on tour. | ||
| You know, not really taking care of my body and I could really feel it. | ||
| And then, are you still vegan? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you run that restaurant, right? | ||
| Was it Crossroads? | ||
| Or it's one of the owners? | ||
| Running it is saying a lot. | ||
| I couldn't do that. | ||
| I shouldn't have said running it. | ||
| No, Tal Ronan is the man. | ||
| He's like, The illest vegan chef ever. | ||
| He's like an old punk rock hardcore guy. | ||
| New John Joseph forever. | ||
| Yeah, John Joseph keeps trying to get me to go there. | ||
| I almost went last time he was in town with him. | ||
| Next time I'm going to make it down there. | ||
| I think probably 80-90% of the people that eat there aren't vegan. | ||
| Because it's that good. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I hear. | ||
| Dana White said that. | ||
| Yeah, Dana, we usually have dinner there when he's in town. | ||
| So I think for Dana to be able to sit through it and enjoy it. | ||
| And Matt Serra, I think he brought everyone for like, I don't know if it was like Fight Companion. | ||
| It was like one of those fight shows. | ||
| Yeah, it was Dana White's Looking for a Fight YouTube show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was on tour, but they FaceTimed me from there. | ||
| But yeah, Tal is like a G. He's the best vegan chef in the world by far. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| How did you get involved with that? | ||
| Were you already cleaning your diet up because of your injuries or because you were trying to keep your body tuned for drumming or you just wanted to clean it up, period? | ||
| No, I was vegetarian since I was 13. Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then after my accident, I was in the hospital actually. | ||
| Long story that I'll just sum up into a real quick piece. | ||
| This is a plain accident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I had to eat meat in the hospital because they didn't have any other kind of vegan options of protein. | ||
| So I'd eat bags of beef jerky, whatever they would give me. | ||
| Whatever I could stomach and not think about what I was eating. | ||
| Because I wasn't eating at all. | ||
| And I was just ditching my food, giving it to my friends because I didn't want to eat any of it and I got caught. | ||
| So long story short, I ate a little bit of meat in the hospital. | ||
| And when I got out, I just felt like the next evolution of my eating would try and be vegan. | ||
| And it was so easy in LA because we have so many great vegan restaurants. | ||
| So yeah, that was pretty much it. | ||
| I was already vegan. | ||
| I was actually at a Bad Brain show, one of the best hardcore bands in the world to ever, ever do it. | ||
| And Tal approached me there saying, hey, I had this idea for a restaurant. | ||
| I'd really like you to be involved. | ||
| And I said, say no more. | ||
| Just tell me what you need. | ||
| Were you thinking about it all before? | ||
| Because that's a weird thing to approach someone with. | ||
| Hey man, I'm thinking about opening up a restaurant. | ||
| I need this drummer. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| No, I think he was just reaching out to friends and family because he was Oprah's chef and he was Ellen DeGeneres' chef and he was all these like... | ||
| You know, really high-profile people's vegan chef when they would, you know, do a vegan diet for however long. | ||
| Some forever, some just like a two-week thing. | ||
| But I think he just got to the point where he wanted to do something for himself. | ||
| And then Crossroads was born. | ||
| And I knew how good he was, so I just told him, say no more, tell me what you need from me, and I'm there. | ||
| And then it just, you know, I think it's been five years now. | ||
| Well, it's got a fantastic reputation. | ||
| I know a bunch of people that have eaten there, and they love it. | ||
| Well, it's not because of me. | ||
| It's because of Tal and his food, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, Tal and Scott, the chefs there, are just, you know, the best. | ||
| Now, how hands-on were you in the... | ||
| Were you just one of the people promoting it? | ||
| Like, how hands-on were you with the construction of it, or...? | ||
| Nothing with the decor or anything. | ||
| He would run stuff by us. | ||
| Like, hey, check this out. | ||
| Tell us what you guys think of this. | ||
| There's basically menus change every season. | ||
| So it's not the same menu all year long. | ||
| So as we prepare for the next season's menu, he's testing it on us the season prior. | ||
| So he'll be bringing out dishes and letting us try it. | ||
| But yeah, he curates the whole thing. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So when he gets his food, when he's preparing his food, is he getting his stuff directly from farmers? | ||
| How is he getting his food? | ||
| Yeah, directly from farms, yeah. | ||
| So he has to curate these relationships with these farmers and just go visit them and find out how they're growing their food? | ||
| Yeah, and you'll be all set with a menu if it's fall, but then those same vegetables aren't in season. | ||
| So he has to rethink everything for the next season and not kind of repeat himself. | ||
| So he's really got it down to a science. | ||
| And how long has he been vegan for? | ||
| I don't know how long Tal's been vegan. | ||
| I've never really asked. | ||
| Because it's got to be incredibly difficult to be a vegan chef. | ||
| I would imagine being a regular chef is difficult, but when you put all those restrictions, you have to make things taste interesting and different. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's where Chef Scott comes in because he actually comes from a meat background. | ||
| So he was working at Italian restaurants and Italian Mediterranean restaurants that cooked everything. | ||
| So it was infusing this vegan, obviously, lifestyle of eating with Chef Scott's taste as well. | ||
| So I think he had to think that out to where it would appeal and meat eaters would eat there too and not really notice a difference. | ||
| Because I agree, you know, sometimes I'll be on tour and you go to a vegan spot and I'll take my bus driver in or whoever's traveling with me and they're like, oh man, this is real. | ||
| They can't stand it. | ||
| Crossroads is not one of those spots where you're thinking about, man, I might not enjoy this meal. | ||
| There's some good spots. | ||
| LA has some great spots. | ||
| You ever go to Follow Your Heart in the Valley? | ||
| All the time. | ||
| It's a great spot. | ||
| Yeah, that's the spot close to home that I love. | ||
| Follow Your Heart. | ||
| Shout out to Erewhon. | ||
| Erewhon has good vegan options. | ||
| Chef Ito, who has a spot in downtown called Alok, who took a vow of silence 22 years ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| He's special, man. | ||
| Yeah, 22 years ago, took a vow of silence. | ||
| And he's done? | ||
| No more talking? | ||
| No more talking. | ||
| What in the fuck is that about? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So he just communicates. | ||
| If he has a lot to say, he'll write it down, but other than that, you just read the lips, and I know what he's saying, but he shows up to... | ||
| Whoa, that's so crazy. | ||
| Yeah, and he takes a lot of photos, so he'll show up to, like, punk or rap, whatever show I'm playing, he's in the pit with his camera, this silent guy who doesn't say a word. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Yeah, and his cooking is phenomenal. | ||
| But yeah, LA, we're spoiled with great vegan restaurants. | ||
| That's a fucking trip. | ||
| 22 years of no talking? | ||
| Yeah, he also does this juicing where this year he juiced for 189 days with no food. | ||
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Pfft. | |
| Wow. | ||
| What did he get down to? | ||
| 18 pounds? | ||
| Yeah, he lost about 20-something pounds. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He does it every year. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He's trying to vanish. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's trying to not talk. | ||
| I don't think I can do it. | ||
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Not eat. | |
| Yeah, intermittent fasting is like as much as I can do. | ||
| Yeah, I do that every night, but that's, the vow of science is freaking me, the silence is freaking me out. | ||
| Yeah, and I've never really pried and kind of like asked a bunch of questions of why. | ||
| Because they don't even have to write a lot. | ||
| Yeah, that too, but no, I've been around when people ask him and he just said he wanted to time out. | ||
| For 22 years? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's a serious fucking timeout. | ||
| How old is homeboy? | ||
| He's gotta be probably in his 50s. | ||
| So almost half his life? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
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Yep. | |
| But he spends Christmas with me, spends Thanksgiving with my family and I. Oh, that's cool. | ||
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Yeah, it's pretty cool. | |
| And everybody just smiles at him? | ||
| Yeah, everyone just smiles and waves, basically. | ||
| He'd be a good guy to sit next to someone who's on coke. | ||
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Totally. | |
| Because they would just talk his fucking ear off and he'd just be sitting there all silent. | ||
| Yeah, not yesterday. | ||
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And they'd just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Yeah, fuck man. | ||
| I've never even heard of anything like that. | ||
| Does he make any noises? | ||
| Does he whistle? | ||
| No. | ||
| I've heard him snort one time when he was laughing hella hard, but that was about as close as it gets. | ||
| So he doesn't laugh out loud? | ||
| Like, ha ha ha ha? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, nothing. | ||
| Terrible comedy club audience member. | ||
| Yeah, it would be rough. | ||
| He has a march too. | ||
| It's called March of Silence that happens once a year where you have a bunch of them that basically, you know, and they're basically marching for the March of Silence for like the cruelty of animals and whatever else. | ||
| I'd like to have him on the podcast and see how long I can talk to him for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just to see what it would be like. | ||
| That's so strange. | ||
| It sounds cool. | ||
| I mean, I love that there's people like that out there, though. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I love hearing those stories. | ||
| The world needs him, you know? | ||
| When you said that, I got excited. | ||
| Like, the guy's been silent for 20 years. | ||
| I'm like, whoa. | ||
| You know, there's something about that. | ||
| It makes you go, wow. | ||
| I was talking hella loud when I first met him. | ||
| And he was like, I can hear you, you know? | ||
| I was like, oh, man. | ||
| Because I was trying to wrap my head around, you know, no one did an introduction going, hey, this guy's silent. | ||
| Oh, they didn't tell you? | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| I had no idea. | ||
| So I'm talking really loud, and he just whispers to me, mouths to me, I can hear you. | ||
| And I was like, okay. | ||
| And then I just figured it out over time. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's silent by choice. | ||
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Whew! | |
| That's heavy. | ||
| Is he involved in heavy meditation or Buddhism or anything very strange like that? | ||
| Yeah, he meditates. | ||
| I think he has a lot of Buddhist qualities. | ||
| I think if he had to lean in some kind of religion or practice, it would be that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's intense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a serious commitment, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I couldn't even imagine going 22 days without talking. | ||
| A day, I think. | ||
| Anything, I think we'd catch ourselves it being very hard. | ||
| I was going to get my tonsils and adenoids removed because I have sleep apnea because I have a fat neck, but I found a mouthpiece that I can sleep with that keeps my tongue from falling over. | ||
| When your neck is thick, your wind hole is smaller, believe it or not, because the more muscle you put in, the smaller your hole gets. | ||
| And then if you have a big tongue, when you lay back, you can actually block your airway. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, and so friends that I know have had their adenoids and their tonsils removed, and they actually take some of the soft tissue out of your passageway so you can breathe easier. | ||
| But the problem is you can't talk for like seven days. | ||
| Yeah, that would probably be rough for you. | ||
| For me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder if wide neck, you know, like the internet phenomenon, I wonder if he has the same problem. | ||
| Oh, that guy? | ||
| Oh, that guy must sleep terrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, his neck starts up here. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| His neck starts at the top of his ears. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It works its way to his shoulders. | ||
| Tonsils out is a bum out. | ||
| I did that. | ||
| Did you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Did you have tonsillitis or...? | ||
| Nah, you know what I had is I had... | ||
| I was smoking tons of weed, right? | ||
| But I would smoke backwoods. | ||
| Like, I loved woods, so everything. | ||
| These right here. | ||
| I got them right here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'd smoke about 20... | ||
| 20 backwoods a day. | ||
| Wow, that's a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was recording an album with the transplants and I turned to Skinhead Rob and I was like, yo, I think I have something like, something's lodged in my throat. | ||
| Like I could barely breathe right now. | ||
| And I kept smoking. | ||
| I didn't really know what was going on. | ||
| And then I went to the hospital that night and they rushed me to another hospital to get my tonsils removed. | ||
| Because they were like twice the size that they should be. | ||
| And then I had a throat infection. | ||
| And then it comes to find out I had what's called like Barrett's esophagus, which is like pre-cancer lining my esophagus from smoking and I don't know, I guess just abuse over the years. | ||
| So that's what led to my tonsils being pulled out. | ||
| When you think about this, you probably shouldn't smoke too many of these because it's just plain tobacco. | ||
| I love them, though. | ||
| It got to the point where I couldn't smoke joints. | ||
| I couldn't smoke out of a bong, a pipe. | ||
| It had to be a backwood. | ||
| That's where I am. | ||
| I'm at that spot. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I like them. | ||
| Did you ever smoke cigarettes? | ||
| No. | ||
| See, I did. | ||
| I smoked a lot of cigarettes, and then I quit smoking cigarettes, just smoked weed, and then I discovered backwoods, and I was kind of getting a little bit of both. | ||
| I was still getting the tobacco that I missed, but yeah. | ||
| Yeah, my friend Ari said that he started smoking spliffs in England, you know, and when he was over in the UK, they mixed the weed with the tobacco, and he got totally hooked on tobacco again. | ||
| Because he had quit cigarettes for years, and then he started smoking the weed mixed with the tobacco, and before he knew it, he was smoking cigarettes again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he smoked while he was over there, and then he quit as soon as he was done, and then came back to the US. Yeah, I feel like they just started smoking just pure weed over there. | ||
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Just barely! | |
| For years, it was both. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand that. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| Like, how'd that work out over there? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| But it's still so illegal over there, too. | ||
| It's like, Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| It's 2019, fellas. | ||
| It's good times. | ||
| When I used to fly over there, we'd have to tape tons of weed to our nuts. | ||
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Just... | |
| Just to be able to... | ||
| And in our road cases, just so we could smoke over there, because they had dirt weed. | ||
| It was horrible weed. | ||
| But, yeah, it was a pain in the ass. | ||
| It's fucking dangerous, bringing that stuff overseas, though. | ||
| If you get arrested, that's serious. | ||
| Yeah, I brought it... | ||
| So I'd bring it everywhere like that, and we went to Iraq. | ||
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What kind of tape? | |
| Like gaff tape. | ||
| It's just the worst, man. | ||
| I feel like you tear the first layer of your nuts off when you go to grab your weed. | ||
| But yeah, we would do that. | ||
| That's a commitment though. | ||
| Yeah, I actually brought it. | ||
| I made the big mistake of not bringing a bunch, but I got to Iraq. | ||
| We went to Iraq for like right when the war broke out. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Like 2003 or 2004? | ||
| And we were over there and scandalous Estevan Oriol, the photographer, he's over there with us documenting the whole thing. | ||
| And I pull it out because we're at this airport in Balrain, but I feel like it's a field and no one's going to mess with us. | ||
| And he's like, hey, bro, look at the back of your fucking passport. | ||
| Look what it says. | ||
| And it says right there, like, you're basically like, they'll kill you if they find, you know, you brought any drugs into Iraq or, you know, where we were, Balrain. | ||
| So I did away with everything and I just kind of took up drinking on that trip. | ||
| And I'm not really much of a drinker. | ||
| Do you still smoke weed? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I have a friend who's like a dear friend who's like a cool like young doctor named Dr. B in San Diego and I called him. | ||
| He actually removed my my tonsils and then like a week later I found out I had what was called pre-cancer, Barrett's esophagus. | ||
| I said what does this mean Dr. B? Should I just like kind of like kind of like tone down like how much I'm smoking? | ||
| He's like no this means like this is your warning shot like pay attention stop smoking. | ||
| Esophageal cancer is a rough one, too. | ||
| That's what killed Christopher Hitchens. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, that's a rough one. | ||
| That kills a lot of fucking people. | ||
| Once you get it, you get it and you're gone, basically. | ||
| I think Hitch said like 95% of the people that get it. | ||
| Yeah, so I felt like he's always pretty honest with me. | ||
| I just stopped. | ||
| I love CBD. That's pretty much what I mess with now, but that's all. | ||
| A lot of people use CBD and they find that it alleviates anxiety and lets them sleep better. | ||
| Do you find that? | ||
| Yeah, as long as I take like triple or quadruple the amount that it says to take on the bottle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I feel like what I take, if I take what the proper dosage is, it doesn't do much, but... | ||
| I'm one of those people whose mind's racing constantly. | ||
| I'll get home from the studio at 1 or 2, and I'm just kind of figuring out how long I've got to sleep before I get to wake up my kids and go to school. | ||
| And I just sit there with my wheels spinning, unless I use CBD. And then that kind of helps. | ||
| And then I have what's called trigeminal neuralgia. | ||
| Have you ever heard of that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, it's the fucking worst. | ||
| It's called the suicide disease. | ||
| because basically all of your nerves in your face are firing all at the same time. | ||
| So it almost feels like what you feel when you think you need a root canal or you have like a tooth that's messed up. | ||
| But I got trigeminal neuralgia and I've only had four episodes. | ||
| But when I do get it, I use CBD and it's been amazing. | ||
| But if you look it up, a lot of people will go actually go to a dentist, get a bunch of root canals done that they don't need or they don't know how to treat it. | ||
| and usually people kill themselves. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's gnarly. | ||
| I didn't really know about it. | ||
| I just was home one day, and I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| The whole side of my face is burning. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| It's miserable. | ||
| It's a chronic pain condition that affects the trigeminal nerve, which carries a sensation from your face to your brain. | ||
| If you have trigeminal neurology, even mild stimulation of your face, such as from brushing your teeth or putting on makeup, may trigger a jolt of excruciating pain. | ||
| Holy shit, man. | ||
| What is the cause? | ||
| What causes that? | ||
| All different things. | ||
| They thought like mine, I maybe got mine from Impact, like from my accident. | ||
| And then maybe a little sparring that I've done has triggered it. | ||
| Also dental, when I get dental work done, it triggers it. | ||
| But the CBD stops it. | ||
| Yeah, CBD and if it's really bad, there's this medication called gabapentin. | ||
| And I feel like that's been a real great way to kind of like mask the pain. | ||
| And once the gabapentin calms the nerve, it kind of deads the nerve, 24-48 hours it's gone. | ||
| If it's a really bad episode, if it's not so bad, CBD just keeps it away. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They say that a lot of nerve diseases are inflammation caused. | ||
| So sometimes if you change your diet, you can smooth some of those out, like lower the sugar intake and some of the other things that might be causing inflammation. | ||
| Did they give you any advice like that? | ||
| No, but around the same time, I figured out I was allergic to gluten, which I really thought was whatever. | ||
| I was like, yeah, right, okay, yeah, we need to be gluten-free. | ||
| Then I tried it, and the doctor I had seen said, well, you really got to try it, though. | ||
| You got to commit 100%. | ||
| You got to give it at least like two to three weeks and see how you feel. | ||
| And I did it and it was a game changer. | ||
| Like, I felt normal. | ||
| Whereas I'd have a lot of ups and downs depending on what I was eating. | ||
| And I'm still eating clean at the time. | ||
| I'm still eating vegan. | ||
| I'm eating, you know, whatever. | ||
| But, you know, a lot of us can't, you know, digest or kind of our bodies can't absorb the gluten. | ||
| Yeah, well, have you ever had pasta in Europe? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very different. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We have so much shit in ours, you know? | ||
| So much... | ||
| Well, it's the... | ||
| Maynard Keenan from Tool, he explained it to me. | ||
| Because, you know, he runs an Osteria in Arizona. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah, he's... | ||
| The guy's a fucking wizard, man. | ||
| He's got his own winery. | ||
| He runs an Osteria. | ||
| But he said that when... | ||
| And we subsequently looked it up after he told me this. | ||
| In the early turn of the century, when they were growing wheat, they experimented and changed the wheat to make it more dense so that you could get more yield out of an acre. | ||
| And so by doing that, they changed how your body processes it. | ||
| And there's more complex glutens in like a stalk of wheat. | ||
| Like an old-timey wheat, like you would get in Italy or France or something like that. | ||
| It's a different wheat. | ||
| It looks different. | ||
| It's a much more scrawny looking plant. | ||
| And so if they had an acre of that, you don't get nearly as much wheat. | ||
| And so in America, we said, oh, bigger's better. | ||
| And we made it bigger and better and thicker. | ||
| And your body has a much harder time processing it. | ||
| And that's why people get so much inflammation and leaky gut and all these different ailments that people get from bread and pasta in this country. | ||
| It's because of this much more complex wheat. | ||
| But I buy pasta overseas. | ||
| I buy this... | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I'll say the name of it. | ||
| I found out about it in Italy that they sell it in America. | ||
| Just for that reason? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because I can eat it. | ||
| And if I want pasta, it's not that disgusting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here, let me find it. | ||
| Yeah, I love pasta. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| But it's something that I found if I eat a lot of, it just fucks me. | ||
| So I have to make sure that I don't. | ||
| Let me find it real quick and I'll pull up the name of it. | ||
| And I felt like Leaky Gut was like a hoax. | ||
| I would be like, what are you talking about? | ||
| I've never even heard about this, but I feel like it's legit and they're spot on about that. | ||
| It's called Morelli. | ||
| Morelli Spaghetti. | ||
| And it's from Italy. | ||
| And the type of wheat that they use, it's a very different type of wheat. | ||
| It tastes different. | ||
| It doesn't bloat you up as much. | ||
| I think somebody explained it to me, like what kind of wheat you're looking for. | ||
| But... | ||
| What I've found is that I've tried gluten-free pasta and it's like... | ||
| You know what I like better than gluten-free pasta? | ||
| Spaghetti squash. | ||
| Spaghetti squash with marinara sauce is fucking delicious. | ||
| I actually sometimes like it better than pasta. | ||
| They sell that at Air One all the time in the hot parts. | ||
| Spaghetti squash is outstanding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's guilt-free. | ||
| You can eat it and you're not thinking you're bloating yourself up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we've ruined pasta. | ||
| We've ruined bread. | ||
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Pretty much. | |
| But it gives you that feeling. | ||
| You know that feeling you get after you eat a lot of it? | ||
| You're like, ugh. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| Your body's like, what the fuck am I doing with this? | ||
| Yeah, you're immediately tired. | ||
| You feel bloated. | ||
| But if you eat it in Italy, you don't get that feeling. | ||
| And you look at those people over there, they're not fat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Yeah, they're walking around all over the place, and they're eating pasta. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In Europe, everyone's walking and riding bikes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Americans. | ||
| Well, that's the thing about France, too. | ||
| France, when they're eating those baguettes, they're eating it with, like, this very rich butter that's, like, grass-fed butter. | ||
| It's, like, a dark yellow butter, so it's very high-fat content. | ||
| It's got a lot of essential fatty acids in it. | ||
| And it's a different kind of bread, too. | ||
| And meanwhile, they're not fat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're drinking wine, and they're not fat. | ||
| Like, it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Agreed. | |
| Standard American diet is just fucked up. | ||
| But I've always wanted to ask you that about, like, the drumming. | ||
| Because, I mean, everything that I do, like everything repetitive, whether it's boxing or even archery, a lot of people get injuries in archery just from repetitive stress, from just pulling the bow back over and over again. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Goddamn, Travis, your whole fucking thing is repetitive. | ||
| And I see you. | ||
| Every time I see you, like, my shoulders hurt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My elbows hurt. | ||
| No, I mean, my first week hurts. | ||
| My first week sucks, like, on tour. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Like, getting acclimated. | ||
| Because even practice, rehearsals are not a show. | ||
| It's just a different intensity. | ||
| But, yeah, as long as I train for it, I'm cool. | ||
| I kind of, like... | ||
| Boxing has helped so much and I don't box because I think I'm a tough guy or I think I can you know beat people's asses or whatever it's really just for functionality like so I can play the drums the way I want to. | ||
| So you started doing it for that reason? | ||
| Well no I started when I knew my son was being born like when my girlfriend at the time was pregnant I woke up that morning, I ran to the freeway and back, like twice, and then I went and found a boxing gym. | ||
| I walked into Tin Goose. | ||
| I actually walked into John Bray's, who used to be Tyson's sparring partner. | ||
| And it was like 2005? | ||
| Yeah, no, 2003. And then I started boxing. | ||
| I just walked into 10 Goose and I started jump roping and hitting pads and I don't know, I just had this urge to want to like box and be better. | ||
| That's so interesting. | ||
| Just from knowing that you were going to be a dad. | ||
| I just wanted to be better. | ||
| Immediately, I just thought to myself I wanted a lifestyle change. | ||
| I needed to evolve and I needed to know how to protect this little human I was bringing into the world. | ||
| And I knew I needed to change my lifestyle because I was kind of out of control. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's an amazing thing that happens to you when you become a father. | ||
| It's a weird switch that goes off in your brain that you can't really describe to people that don't have kids. | ||
| Yeah, and it's even weirder when the switch doesn't go off. | ||
| So, like, you know, you see people who are horrible fathers or horrible parents, and I just don't get, like, how didn't that switch turn on for you? | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| Like, the ones who don't want to be around their kids freak me out the most. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They just don't want to be. | ||
| They just want to be away all the time. | ||
| I just don't get it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| Yeah, I couldn't imagine. | ||
| But yeah, and now I love boxing. | ||
| It's one of my favorite things to do. | ||
| I've been doing Muay Thai a little bit more because I can kind of save my hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's not good on my hands in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| How so? | ||
| Just the impact over and over again. | ||
| Are you getting your hands professionally wrapped? | ||
| Do you get them wrapped correctly? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it still bothers you? | ||
| My knuckles hurt. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you using big, heavy gloves? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What ounce gloves are you using? | ||
| I think they're 14 ounce. | ||
| Maybe you should switch to like 18 or 20. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get a thicker padding in the front. | ||
| It'll protect your knuckles better and it even gives you a better workout really because you're pushing more weight. | ||
| A little heavier? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're pushing more weight and you'll have more impact. | ||
| But another thing I would say is get a bag that's a water bag. | ||
| Water bags are fantastic. | ||
| Have you ever seen those before? | ||
| Oh yeah, I've seen them at the gym. | ||
| Yeah, they're awesome. | ||
| Yeah, you can fucking dig into those things and it's... | ||
| It's minimal impact, but you're still pushing the same amount of weight. | ||
| Throwing the punches, you can still explode with the same amount of force, but you're sinking into that bag. | ||
| A lot of people with tendinitis find that that's a way better option. | ||
| I have two bags out there. | ||
| One of them is a Fairtex bag. | ||
| And Fairtex makes a... | ||
| It's a Muay Thai bag, but it's softer. | ||
| And the other one's a monster bag. | ||
| The monster bag's, like, really hard. | ||
| Stiff, right? | ||
| Dense. | ||
| Dense as fuck. | ||
| So I like the combination of the two. | ||
| But the Fairtex one is good if I'm injured, if, like, my shoulders bother me or something like that. | ||
| I can dig into that bag, and it's not going to have the same jolt as, like, hitting something solid and hard. | ||
| So if you're having problems with your hands, that's what I would say. | ||
| Another thing you can do is... | ||
| They make wraps that are gel wraps. | ||
| You slide them on your hand almost like a glove. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he just told me about, one of the guys I train with. | ||
| Yeah, those are great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then that on top of the heavier glove, I bet it'll stop all the hand stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna try that. | ||
| Yeah, he just told me about that. | ||
| That'll protect my knuckles a little bit more. | ||
| Because I find if I lift weights, I never get big, like I never look big, but I feel kind of stiff and just slow. | ||
| It's the worst feeling ever. | ||
| And I did it one time right before Torrid. | ||
| I was living in Chevy Hills for a little while and I was working out at a gym over there and it was all bodybuilder guys. | ||
| And I would train with one just to like be pushed. | ||
| And I got behind my kit and it was the worst feeling ever. | ||
| The worst. | ||
| I felt like I was in slow motion. | ||
| So I figured out like I need to train how I want to move when I'm actually playing the drums. | ||
| Weightlifting is fine, but you have to do it lightly. | ||
| The thing about weightlifting is people want to do it to failure all the time. | ||
| You know, do ten sets of this and five sets of that and go to failure every time. | ||
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Come on, push, push, push, push. | |
| Don't do that. | ||
| You shouldn't do that. | ||
| I subscribe to the Pavel Tazzolini method. | ||
| He's a famous Russian kettlebell instructor, and his philosophy is that you should do more sets, but less repetition. | ||
| So, like, say if you could do a weight and you could lift it ten times. | ||
| Don't lift it ten times. | ||
| Lift it five. | ||
| If you lift it ten... | ||
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What the fuck's going on with my voice? | |
| Let's talk about esophageal cancer. | ||
| My voice is rebelling. | ||
| But say if you could lift something ten times, lift it five times and just do more sets and give yourself a lot of time in between sets. | ||
| Because if you're training for strength... | ||
| You can do certain things, like kettlebells in specific, where it's strength, but it's also endurance. | ||
| But really, if you just want to do strength, the best way to do it is to do a short set of a few repetitions and then do multiple versions of that. | ||
| Like take a long time off, like five, ten minutes, and then do another five reps, five, ten minutes, do another five reps, and then do it again in a couple of days. | ||
| And then do it again. | ||
| Instead of like once a week where you just blow your body out and you're like... | ||
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Ah! | |
| That feeling where you can barely move. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| It's not a smart way because you don't recover as well. | ||
| Yeah, and you end up getting hurt or having to take a day off. | ||
| You know what I started doing was with this one trainer named Don, we figured out kind of like a metronome workout. | ||
| So you're actually like a tempo workout where you're training to a tempo. | ||
| So you have to do high reps. | ||
| You'll stay to a minute and maybe the tempo is like... | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So whatever, even if it's quick and you're not doing everything exactly technique-wise, really slow, it's kind of like making sure you stay up with the tempo, which I feel like really helped me with staying quick and fast with drums and more endurance, you know? | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Is drumming a young man's game? | ||
| I mean, is it like athletics, where as you get older, drummers slow down? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't. | ||
| I played just as wild as I did back in the day. | ||
| And how old are you now? | ||
| 43. You look great. | ||
| Oh, thank you. | ||
| You don't look 43. Yeah, Max Weinberg told me one time, he watched me play, and he was at a show where Blink played, and he's like, I don't know how much longer you can play like that. | ||
| Because you fucking go hard, dude. | ||
| He's like, you're going to need back surgery. | ||
| You play like you have rabies. | ||
| You're just smashing the fucking drums. | ||
| So knock on wood, nothing has changed and I've just... | ||
| I play exactly how I always have, you know? | ||
| I don't even want to think about a day where I have to play any different. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sure, it'll come, but... | ||
| Do you get massages? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That'll help a lot, right? | ||
| Massages, Epsom salt baths. | ||
| That's where the tank comes in play, man. | ||
| Yeah, that thing looks amazing. | ||
| The tank is all ebbs and salt. | ||
| Look at you, dude. | ||
| You're going fucking crazy. | ||
| When you watch that, I would watch you play, and I would just go, how the fuck can this guy maintain this pace? | ||
| Because everybody drums differently. | ||
| It's really interesting to watch people's different... | ||
| Especially my friend Bill Burr really got into drumming. | ||
| He's really into it. | ||
| I like watching him play. | ||
| It's interesting to see someone take something up and get better and take lessons and learn it. | ||
| But the thing that really strikes me is how many repetitions are involved. | ||
| As you're doing this, the amount of times you're hitting these drums is fucking insanity. | ||
| You've got to pace yourself. | ||
| If it's a two-hour set, I know like, oh, this is a verse of this song. | ||
| I can kind of... | ||
| This is not a big, big part. | ||
| You know, you can kind of chill, but it's like a round, you know? | ||
| If you're doing a round, look up in the clock and you realize, oh, wow, I still have two minutes left. | ||
| Well, pace yourself and... | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's kind of how I approach shows. | ||
| But the goal is to train so much before you even get on tour that you're not even having to think about that. | ||
| You're just playing the show exactly how you want to play. | ||
| I imagine it's like that with fighting where you envision what you want to do in your head and you're in the shape and you know the technique to execute. | ||
| You don't have to think about it or go like, oh, I can't do that. | ||
| I didn't practice that enough. | ||
| I like to be able to just do whatever I'm feeling and not be like... | ||
| Shit, I don't know how to do that. | ||
| Or, I'm going to get tired if I do that. | ||
| I don't want that to happen. | ||
| So that's the goal. | ||
| It's just being able to execute what you have the idea in your head. | ||
| Well, musicians have to have discipline. | ||
| Because you have to practice. | ||
| One of the things that makes you guys so unique in the entertainment world. | ||
| I guess maybe actors have to practice. | ||
| Stand-up comedians, we only practice in front of an audience. | ||
| But you guys have to fucking practice. | ||
| So you don't go through your show? | ||
| No. | ||
| Before you go out? | ||
| No, I write. | ||
| I write and I listen to recordings of old sets, but I don't sit in front of a mirror and go, hey folks! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't do that. | ||
| I don't know anybody that does that. | ||
| Because it would feel so weird when you go up to do it. | ||
| It would feel rehearsed, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's the last thing you want. | ||
| You gotta be in the moment. | ||
| Same thing happens if you practice too much as a band and then you go try to play those songs and act like you're having fun, that same thing happens. | ||
| So I try to practice a lot on my own and I'm not even practicing those songs, just kind of... | ||
| Just drill, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sam Kinison used to have a joke about the Beach Boys, about they're going out there playing I Wish They Could All Be California Girls again. | ||
| I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| I wish they all could... | ||
| It becomes a job. | ||
| You don't want that. | ||
| You want it to be fresh and exciting, and you want it to be something that you're really in the moment and really thinking about. | ||
| So I make up new shit on the spot, too. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| I just make up new fills or just try to reinvent the songs to the point where even Mark will look back at me and be like, whoa! | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Whatever. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| Just kind of freaking it on the fly. | ||
| And even to the crowd, it's like, whoa, that's cool. | ||
| You haven't heard that before. | ||
| So that's like after two or three months of being on tour, you do stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, when you get off tour, do you consciously give yourself a rest? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm busier at home than I am on tour. | ||
| On tour is so lavish, man. | ||
| You have someone saying... | ||
| I mean, you do have people kind of waiting on you hand and foot somewhat. | ||
| Like, hey, catering's ready if you want to eat. | ||
| Or, hey, you got to go do an interview 30 minutes before you go on stage. | ||
| Cars outside waiting for you after the show, taking you to the hotel. | ||
| So that doesn't happen at home. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And at home... | ||
| I do so many other things besides playing the band. | ||
| I produce a bunch of rap artists. | ||
| I have Crossroads. | ||
| I have clothing companies. | ||
| I have three kids. | ||
| It's way busier at home. | ||
| Tour is a vacation. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, for me. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because I don't know how to say no either. | ||
| Mind you, I have a lot of things I love that I love doing, so I can't complain and be like, oh, I hate going to this theater. | ||
| I hate doing this. | ||
| I love it all. | ||
| I just kind of love it all so much that I have trouble saying no sometimes. | ||
| So, you said you're managing or you're producing rap artists? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How many? | ||
| I'm in the studio right now with this group called Suicide Boys, who are awesome. | ||
| They're from New Orleans. | ||
| And we have an EP coming out that's called Live Fast, Die Whenever. | ||
| And we just finished over the weekend, or yesterday. | ||
| So you go in there at noon and you leave there at 4 in the morning every day until you're finished, because they're only in town for a little while. | ||
| So, yeah, it takes a little bit. | ||
| And then I worked on XXXTentacion's album before he passed away. | ||
| I worked with Smokepurpp, Vic Menza, a bunch of different artists. | ||
| Do you like that because it's a different genre? | ||
| It helps you mix it up a little bit? | ||
| Are you just a big rap fan as well? | ||
| Obviously, you're wearing an Ice Cube shirt. | ||
| Yeah, I grew up... | ||
| I actually listened to rap music before I listened to any kind of music at all. | ||
| Like Beastie Boys and Run DMC and Public Enemy and The Far Side and KRS-One. | ||
| That's what I grew up on. | ||
| And then I discovered... | ||
| I loved metal too. | ||
| I loved Slayer and King Diamond. | ||
| And then I discovered a band called Minor Threat and The Descendants and Black Flag and Bad Brains. | ||
| And I just liked it all. | ||
| And then my dad listened to jazz music and country rebel music. | ||
| So I was born and raised on like Johnny Cash and Buck Owens and... | ||
| Everything. | ||
| And I kind of learned to love it all. | ||
| And I had people around me when I was young, when I was first learning how to read music, that just kept embedding in my head, like, you gotta listen to everything. | ||
| You can't just learn one thing. | ||
| So I was actually taught how to play traditional jazz when I was really young. | ||
| And then I taught myself how to play everything else. | ||
| That's fucking cool. | ||
| Yeah, but I always loved everything. | ||
| That's nice that you have an appreciation for all those different genres, too. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be like if all you did was UFC commentating, you'd be like, I'm gonna go crazy. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, this must be so much fun for you and all of your other endeavors. | ||
| Like, same thing. | ||
| Like, if I was only making, you know, punk rock records or pop punk records or whatever it was, I think I would go insane. | ||
| And it's been like that for years, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I think different people... | ||
| I think some people, if they're just doing baseball commentary or something like that, they're fucking happy as shit. | ||
| They love it and they just want to do that. | ||
| But there's some people like you or maybe like me that I need different things. | ||
| I will go crazy. | ||
| I love like... | ||
| Studio life is awesome. | ||
| I did a Hans Zimmer thing the other week, and then the next day I'm in with a band called Nothing Nowhere doing something completely different. | ||
| This week I'm doing a Lil Peep and XXX remix. | ||
| It has to be like that for me. | ||
| I get really bored, and I just don't feel creative. | ||
| I feel kind of like, I don't know. | ||
| That's cool, though. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| Like you get a phone call or someone texts you, hey Travis, we need you to come in here and light this motherfucker on fire and you get in there and... | ||
| Yeah, it's been like that, you know? | ||
| Or like, you know, some projects manifested too, like there's this band called The Fever 333 that I produce and write with and they just got nominated for a Grammy, like threw up for a Grammy for Best Rock Performance. | ||
| And that was something I just envisioned with the singer of that band, Jason. | ||
| And we started literally a year ago, and they're nominated for a Grammy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So, like, stuff like that, like, kind of being in architecture without building buildings, you know, being in architecture and music, or whatever it is, whatever it is you're passionate about, that excites me. | ||
| You're just building sound. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's nothing better. | ||
| And working with different genres, too, has got to be exciting, too, because you can mix it up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Now, how do you schedule your time in terms of how much time you're going to spend on your own studio work? | ||
| How much time are you going to spend on other people's stuff? | ||
| Do you just play it by ear? | ||
| It seems like with a guy like you, you must get so many requests, and you said you have a hard time saying no. | ||
| I would imagine it's fucking overwhelming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, my kids come first before everything, anything, you know? | ||
| And then I get a lot of opportunities. | ||
| Like, my son Landon is a big rap fan. | ||
| Like, he loves rap. | ||
| He was raised on rap music. | ||
| Like, he grew up touring with me and Lil Wayne when I toured with Lil Wayne. | ||
| And he loves being in the studio. | ||
| So he'll come with me to the studio so I can kind of, like, double dip work at the same time as he's in B making music. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You know, my studio B. Which is really, really awesome. | ||
| And then... | ||
| Same with Alabama. | ||
| I'm lucky they're both musicians, because Alabama and Landon both love music, so they like going on tour with me. | ||
| Oh, that's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, or I probably wouldn't be working so much. | ||
| That's really cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck is it like going on tour with Lil Wayne? | ||
| It was so awesome. | ||
| I came out with a rap project where I produced, I made all the beats and I just got all my favorite rappers. | ||
| Everyone from like RZA from the Wu-Tang Clan to Lil Wayne, Games, Swizz Beats. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| I think I had 30 guests on there and Wayne asked me to go out on tour with him. | ||
| So me and Mixmaster Mike from the Beasties were like the opening act on that tour and Drake was out there, Nicki Minaj and Rick Ross. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| It was so fun. | ||
| So I loaded up the bus with everyone. | ||
| I brought Yellow Wolf out. | ||
| I brought J-Rock. | ||
| I brought Paul Wall. | ||
| I brought the cool kids. | ||
| And we just got in the bus and we went on tour. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| It was the best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How long are those shows? | ||
| All those people? | ||
| How long is that show? | ||
| That's like a, well, with all the acts, at least four hours. | ||
| Yeah, it's a long one. | ||
| But it was so fun. | ||
| By the time the fucking show's over, like, good lord, that audience must be beaten into a coma. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But then the headliners on, who they're really there to see. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But that was a big accomplishment, just being able to play in that genre of music, because I listened to it as a kid, but there's never really been a home for a live drummer in a rap scenario. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, from the beginning, I think, I don't even know what year it was when Puff called me. | ||
| When I had just joined Blink, and he's like, yo, I want you to be in this video. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| Like, you know what I mean? | ||
| Because I pretty much was, I was just like, wow, I'm in one of the biggest, you know, bands in the world. | ||
| I'm so stoked. | ||
| I couldn't ask for anything more. | ||
| And I always wanted to, yeah. | ||
| Can the drummer get something? | ||
| That tour was so fun. | ||
| But yeah, once Puff asked me to be in a video, it was kind of like a, it just snowballed from there. | ||
| You just got into that world. | ||
| Yeah, and I had no idea why he wanted me, you know, but I was just like, wow, this is so cool because I grew up on Big E, like, I loved all that genre of music, but I was okay with just staying in my lane as well. | ||
| But when I got accepted with, like, Open Arms and I was invited to do, like, BET Awards with TI or Tyga or Wayne, it was just insane, you know, playing the Grammys. | ||
| The funny thing is I've never played the Grammys with Blink, but I've played the Grammys with... | ||
| Like Pitbull, Drake, Eminem. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| It's so weird to me. | ||
| I just feel it's a trip. | ||
| The opportunities I've had outside of rock music have been such blessings. | ||
| When you say all these things and you know that you did all these things, does it almost seem like you're living in a dream? | ||
| Yeah, I feel like smacking myself. | ||
| It doesn't feel real. | ||
| When people go like, oh, who would you like to collaborate with? | ||
| I feel like I'm so spoiled, and I've been so blessed to play with all these musicians I love. | ||
| I just say nobody. | ||
| You know, whatever comes, I'm happy with. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's cool, though. | ||
| That's great, man. | ||
| That means you're fulfilled. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know? | ||
| You're doing what you want to do. | ||
| Like, you're ready. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Whoever. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you wanted to make a record, Joe, I'd be there. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Well, lucky for you, I'm totally talentless in the music department, so it's not going to happen. | ||
| Nah, you're such a talent, man. | ||
| I love, like, when you and Dominic Cruz are commentating together, it doesn't get any better. | ||
| Yeah, I love Dom. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| He beat the shit out of me a couple times. | ||
| Why did you let him? | ||
| Well, because he, you know, we used to sponsor him a little bit, like with Famous. | ||
| Like, you know, he used to walk out in Famous stuff, like when UFC wasn't, they didn't have Reebok gear. | ||
| And he would come down and train. | ||
| Because I would train with this one guy, Josh, over here in Woodland Hills. | ||
| And he said, Trav, I'm going to be in town. | ||
| I'm going to come train with you. | ||
| I was like, okay, cool. | ||
| Little did I know it would be Dom tossing me around. | ||
| Oh my gosh, man. | ||
| It was so difficult. | ||
| Does he make you roll with him? | ||
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| He'd be like, try to sleep me. | ||
| Like, try to knock me out. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| So I'm giving my all. | ||
| And he's just using his defense? | ||
| And you know, when you actually swing in the air and you're not landing, it's actually more tiresome than when you're hitting somebody. | ||
| So I'm swinging in the air. | ||
| He's, like, on the side of me all of a sudden. | ||
| Like, you know, he's so quick, like, with footwork. | ||
| And then I'm wrestling to the ground. | ||
| And it's just a wrap every time, man. | ||
| He's so, so talented. | ||
| So, yeah, man. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| His footwork is preposterous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just has the most ridiculous footwork. | ||
| His footwork is so unique to him, too. | ||
| Everything he does, he's got this weird herky-jerky little thing. | ||
| He's probably one of the most unique MMA fighters ever. | ||
| I feel like a lot of people have kind of borrowed from his style, too. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| And not to say they didn't make it their own, but I feel like Dom was the first one you saw... | ||
| Unquestionably. | ||
| And that's because of his intelligence. | ||
| Because he doesn't like getting hit. | ||
| He's like, okay, I've got to figure out a way to not get hit so much. | ||
| What's the best way to not get hit? | ||
| And he just came up with this very unorthodox way of moving. | ||
| He's a real encyclopedia of information when you start talking to him about fighting. | ||
| I really enjoy doing commentary with him because he's so insightful. | ||
| He's so good at pointing out little areas where he thinks people are making mistakes or how to capitalize on certain things that people are doing. | ||
| Yeah, I've watched fights with him before, and he gives a different insight than what I'm seeing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, he's great, especially when it comes to wrestling, clinch work, and even weird striking techniques. | ||
| He's so good at befuddling people that he fights with, with movement and information. | ||
| He's giving them looks, and they're trying to set up. | ||
| You know, and they're standing there trying to set up, and they don't know what the fuck he's doing, and they have to reset. | ||
| And they're trying again, and then he's giving them a different look, and he's standing over here, and then he's in front of you with his hands down, and then he's not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's a trip. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Just fucked up his shoulder again, man. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| I think he trains so much. | ||
| I feel like he just, you know, he's obsessive. | ||
| Yeah, he's a savage. | ||
| I mean, he got back from knee surgery and he went so hard that he gave himself plantar fasciitis. | ||
| So he fucked up the bottom of his feet from running and sprinting and doing all kinds of crazy shit to get in shape. | ||
| And, you know, he got over that. | ||
| I mean, he's had so many different surgeries. | ||
| And that's miserable. | ||
| Have you had that? | ||
| No, I've never had plantar. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I had it on a tour where I would... | ||
| I'd get these weird kind of things where I have to do a certain thing before I go on stage. | ||
| So one of the things I did on a tour that was, I don't know, it was about a four-month tour, is run four to five miles before the show. | ||
| And by the middle of that tour, I had actually given myself a stress fracture in my foot. | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| Did you run on concrete? | ||
| Not on a treadmill. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Damn, dude. | ||
| Well, sometimes when there was no treadmill, I'd just run out on the street. | ||
| But I kind of get like that where I just like, I don't know, I get obsessive about stuff and I want to do it. | ||
| I throw myself all the way in. | ||
| What kind of running shoes do you run with? | ||
| Do you run with... | ||
| I was running, like, honestly, on that tour, sometimes I'd run in vans, which is probably half of my problem. | ||
| But, you know, it'd be so quick, like, oh, I have an hour here to do this. | ||
| But, yeah, it wasn't fun, though. | ||
| It was painful. | ||
| Yeah, when you have overuse injuries, those are some of the hardest, especially your feet. | ||
| They're some of the hardest to recover from because you have to walk. | ||
| It's not like if you hurt your elbow, you could just not use it for a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it'll eventually heal up, but you need to use your feet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Planner's a rough one, man. | ||
| I know a lot of people that have got that. | ||
| I've been very lucky. | ||
| I came from a martial arts background, a lot of kicking and stuff like that, so my feet are pretty strong from moving, but... | ||
| I found that running with minimalist shoes on hills, that made them even stronger. | ||
| Yoga made them stronger. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Those weird kind of, what are they called? | ||
| Vibram five-finger shoes. | ||
| I wear those. | ||
| There's another company called Vivo Barefoot. | ||
| I wear those. | ||
| I like those a little bit better for running on the hills because I'm running on a lot of rocks and shit. | ||
| And the Vibrams, they would be great if everything was soft dirt. | ||
| But I'm running on weird, jagged rocks and shit. | ||
| And it just, it hurts your feet. | ||
| You gotta be real careful where you place your feet. | ||
| work as they're supposed to as opposed to like a big cushiony running shoe you know like a big cushiony running shoe feels good it feels good to run on it because you get all this cushion it's not so jarring but your body really you really should run i think personally unless you're a runner you should probably run less with a minimalist shoe than you should run like because it's more comfortable to run with a big fat cushion I think you ultimately give yourself probably more injuries that way. | ||
| But you can get injuries from those minimalist shoes too if you don't pay close attention. | ||
| You try too hard, too quick. | ||
| Your foot's not conditioned for it. | ||
| My feet are terrible too, man. | ||
| I had what was called a Liz Frank fracture. | ||
| Have you ever heard of that? | ||
| It's basically your foot breaks in half. | ||
| All your tendons, your ligaments, and your bones. | ||
| How the fuck did you do that? | ||
| So I was high as a kite and I was in Australia and I was running to the bus and I had like two huge bags that were like probably like I probably had 40 pounds on my back and I was just trying to get to the bus to get to the next show or whatever and it was the the stupidest thing ever but it was a little like you know the little cracks in the sidewalk where it's up higher and I didn't see and I fell with all that weight on me and I'm in the bus And I'm starting to think, wow, this is really bad. | ||
| And my tour manager's like, hey man, just get the blood flowing, try walking on it. | ||
| And I'm trying to just suck it up, and I'm walking in the airport, and I'm like, almost like tearing, like I'm fucking hurting so bad. | ||
| And I was like, man, I think I need to get an x-ray or like an MRI. This isn't good. | ||
| So I play like the next two shows with my other foot. | ||
| I get an x-ray. | ||
| They say I've broken my foot in half. | ||
| I need surgery. | ||
| So I, um... | ||
| I think I ended up doing a couple weeks of the tour, which I shouldn't have. | ||
| I should have gone and done that surgery. | ||
| But I played it with my other foot, and then I got home. | ||
| I did the surgery, and I was like six months on crutches and just recovering. | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| Six months on crutches? | ||
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| And then I feel like I wasn't healing that great because I was taking so many painkillers and everything. | ||
| It was slowing down the process, which I don't know if you've heard of, but my bones became super brittle. | ||
| From painkillers? | ||
| From painkillers. | ||
| What painkillers? | ||
| Norcos. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| But I would imagine the pain must have been fucking excruciating. | ||
| Snapping your foot in half? | ||
| Oh, it was so painful. | ||
| Yeah, when it first happened. | ||
| Did you use something else for pain medication after you got off of that stuff? | ||
| I just smoked weed. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that enough? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm pretty good with pain. | ||
| It doesn't really bug me. | ||
| What about edibles? | ||
| I haven't really done it. | ||
| You don't fuck with edibles? | ||
| Really? | ||
| I haven't had anything for 10 years. | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| No alcohol, no weed, no nothing. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 10 years. | ||
| Which was a big... | ||
| Well, after my accident as well, I was fed, you know, four months in a hospital, being fed morphine every day for four months, and then being on all these bipolar meds and everything else. | ||
| I honestly didn't want to put anything in my body when I got out. | ||
| I didn't even take painkillers when I got home. | ||
| Now, what kind of bipolar meds they put you on? | ||
| Dude, I don't even remember. | ||
| I was on like four or five, just bipolar. | ||
| I mean, I had so many. | ||
| I probably had like 12 medications I got sent home with. | ||
| And I did it for about a week or two, and then I went and see my doctor. | ||
| I'd actually overheard one of my friends talking. | ||
| Who was like a brother to me. | ||
| And I had heard him talking to someone else. | ||
| And he was like, yo, Travis seems a little different. | ||
| He seems a little bit slow or something. | ||
| And I had overheard him. | ||
| He didn't know I overheard him. | ||
| But these meds, I had been telling my docs, too. | ||
| I was like, I just don't feel like me. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel weird. | ||
| And I just don't feel like myself. | ||
| So I just flushed him down the toilet one day. | ||
| And the next week, I came back to see him. | ||
| And he's like, how are you doing? | ||
| I said, good. | ||
| good I'm off all of those meds you told me I'd be on for the rest of my life and they're like oh dude from what you've been through like you it's okay to be on something like that and I was like yeah I'm doing fine though like I don't need those you know so they wanted to put you on because of the plane crash Yeah, they're like, don't shame yourself by giving yourself a hard time that you have to take these pills. | ||
| And I said, well, honestly, I don't feel like they're doing what they're supposed to for me, and they're actually having a negative effect on me, so I really don't want to take them. | ||
| They also told me I'd never run again, I'd never do this, I'd never do that again. | ||
| So I think I just got to the point where I was like... | ||
| Let me see how many things I can prove otherwise that they've told me, you know, once I stop taking the pills. | ||
| Jesus, so they put you on bipolar medication because of a traumatic crash. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That seems odd to me. | ||
| I mean, I'm not a doctor, obviously, but... | ||
| Well, I was kind of crazy. | ||
| You know, I was like suicidal. | ||
| When I was in the hospital, I was on so many drugs, I couldn't even, I didn't even know my friends had passed away. | ||
| I didn't even know the two pilots had passed away. | ||
| I didn't remember anything. | ||
| I kept thinking like everyone was in the hospital, including the two pilots, including my two best friends and A.M. I thought everyone was just in different rooms, until about two weeks before I left. | ||
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| And then I went crazy. | ||
| Then it was like they had a 5150 case on their hands. | ||
| I wasn't in a good place. | ||
| Then I did a lot of post-traumatic therapy when I was in the hospital to calm things down once I got through all my surgeries. | ||
| Over time, it was cool. | ||
| It was never cool, but I started to feel better. | ||
| But yeah, I think it was because I was so crazy at the time. | ||
| It's interesting that I would think that bipolar medication would be something that you would give someone who has a condition that just is sort of predisposed to it. | ||
| I don't know anything about bipolar, but... | ||
| I would think that that's something that you just have, you know? | ||
| It's like you have a mental condition. | ||
| I wouldn't think that it would be something that they would give you to overcome a traumatic incident. | ||
| Yeah, I think they were afraid I was gonna be... | ||
| I had like a mental condition after everything happened, you know? | ||
| Do you think they think like maybe because you're an artist that you're probably a little crazy anyway? | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Yeah, I mean like I think... | ||
| But I was a mess, too. | ||
| I had smoked so much weed every day, and I'd taken so many pills, and I would self-medicate quite a bit, that I woke up, probably out of 11 of my 30 surgeries I had in the burn center, I woke up swinging on doctors. | ||
| Because I would wake up, and I'd be opened up, and I would just go crazy. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Were you just trying to get off the table? | ||
| Yeah, I would just try to get off the table. | ||
| I don't even think I really knew what was going on. | ||
| I just wasn't. | ||
| They couldn't give me enough medication to knock me out because I had been self-medicating for so long and abusing meds for so long. | ||
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| So you would get up from anesthesia? | ||
| You would just wake up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the middle of anesthesia. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, that was a problem. | ||
| How did you clean up? | ||
| I think after... | ||
| I think the last time I swung on a doctor, they were kind of like, you can't be here no more. | ||
| And then I was like, wow, well, I need... | ||
| X amount of more surgeries. | ||
| I really was just fighting demons. | ||
| I just figured out my two best friends had passed away and the pilots had passed away. | ||
| I was just in an ugly place. | ||
| My kids couldn't come visit me because... | ||
| 65% of my body was burnt, so I couldn't be around people. | ||
| So I was just in it, man. | ||
| And then I just, I don't know, I turned a corner. | ||
| And then I was like a team player. | ||
| And I don't think I was on as many meds. | ||
| Most of my surgeries were over. | ||
| And just learning how to walk again. | ||
| Being able to take a shower by myself again. | ||
| All that stuff, man. | ||
| I think that was just... | ||
| Those were the good points that helped me turn the corner. | ||
| And I don't know, I just had more strength, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So you just turned a corner in your mind and just sort of accepted it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Same with drugs. | ||
| I didn't ever do rehab or anything. | ||
| I think it was mainly my kids and just second chance at life was enough for me. | ||
| I was like, I never want to do any of that stuff again. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| So once you get a certain amount of distance between you and those days, does it seem like it wasn't even real? | ||
| It wasn't you doing those things? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You look back and you're just like, fuck. | ||
| I still talk to those doctors to this day. | ||
| Dr. Grossman, he's so awesome. | ||
| He basically saved my life. | ||
| But I still talk to him. | ||
| He lives out here in the valley. | ||
| He has Grossman Burn Center. | ||
| I go over there at Christmas and see burn victims that are over there in the burn center and help out any way I can. | ||
| That's cool, man. | ||
| That's really cool. | ||
| Yeah, many of my friends that I know that had real bad drug problems and then now are off drugs, they look back and they go, what? | ||
| What the fuck was I doing? | ||
| How was that me? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's interesting how that happens in your life. | ||
| You have these new chapters in your life. | ||
| And sometimes it could just be something that happened like two weeks ago. | ||
| And you're like, who the fuck was that guy two weeks ago? | ||
| I'm not even him anymore. | ||
| Sometimes people make these abrupt turns in their life and then they go, yeah, I'm never going back. | ||
| And you go, well, we'll see. | ||
| And then you look ten years later like, wow, you were right. | ||
| You never went back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and I think like, I still have, have you ever heard of what's called like user dreams? | ||
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No. | |
| Where like, I think I've fucked up and I'm smoking weed again. | ||
| And then I wake up and I'm like, oh my God, how am I going to stop? | ||
| Because I love, I love smoking so much, you know, or whatever your vice was, you know, if it was like, whatever it was, you know, yeah, you're just like, you wake up and you think you're doing it again. | ||
| And then you realize, nah, I'm all good. | ||
| I used to have dreams like that where I had to go back to high school. | ||
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Really? | |
| I used to have dreams for years, man. | ||
| Did you hate high school? | ||
| Fucking hated it. | ||
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Me too. | |
| I don't think anyone likes it. | ||
| Unless you're like, you know, soon to be a professor or fucking doctor or something. | ||
| Well, I just had no idea what I wanted to do for a living. | ||
| And I was just like... | ||
| constantly was excruciating. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I must have had... | ||
| I mean, I probably do have like some crazy form of ADD. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've never been diagnosed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've never been to a shrink. | ||
| But if I did, I mean, I'm sure they'd probably try to put me on something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If I tried to tell them what's going on in my head all the time, they'd be like, Jesus, sit down. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Take these. | ||
| Take these. | ||
| Whatever you're doing, it's bad. | ||
| But when I was in high school, I fucking hated it and I barely got by. | ||
| And then when I got out of high school, I would have these dreams where I would wake up in the middle of the night and I didn't have enough credits to graduate and have to go back. | ||
| And then I was sitting there in my bed before I woke up trying to decide whether or not I was just going to fucking drop out. | ||
| And not graduate from high school, not have a high school diploma, or go back and do another fucking year of hell. | ||
| And my guts would turn, then I'd wake up and be like, oh my god, I graduated. | ||
| I graduated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was the worst. | ||
| I was the same way, man. | ||
| I just barely got by high school. | ||
| Did you go to school out here? | ||
| Well, I grew up in Fontana, Riverside, Corona. | ||
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Fontucky. | |
| Yep, Fontucky. | ||
| Shout out to Double Dose Muay Thai out there. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Is there a good Muay Thai place out there? | ||
| So, people like to fight in Fontana. | ||
| People like to fight everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, you either fight or play football. | ||
| In Fontana? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or you sell meth. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But yeah, it was the same way. | ||
| Just skated by high school. | ||
| And then I remember I didn't even want to walk. | ||
| I fucking hated it so much. | ||
| I actually rode my skateboard with my friends that were like much older than me that I'd go skateboarding with every day. | ||
| And we were skateboarding by the high school as everyone walked and got their diploma. | ||
| Did you get your diploma? | ||
| Yeah, they sent it to me, but I didn't want to fucking be there. | ||
| I didn't go to my graduation. | ||
| I'm like, I'm gone. | ||
| Once I got through, I'm like, you don't have me anymore. | ||
| I can be free. | ||
| It took me a while to figure out what the fuck to do next. | ||
| Yeah, I would sit there and they would be like, so what do you want to do? | ||
| Talk to counselors? | ||
| And I was like, I just want to play drums in a band, really. | ||
| And they'd be like, well, that's not an option. | ||
| Like, what college are you going to? | ||
| And they would talk to me like I was like, just insane. | ||
| Isn't that crazy that there's so many bands and there's so many drummers? | ||
| Why is that not an option? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why is that not an option? | ||
| It'd be better if they just said, well, you know, like, I don't know if they motivated you to actually do what you're passionate about, you know, instead of just being, well, that's not going to happen, so what do you want to do? | ||
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God. | |
| So many fucking people that probably wanted to be drummers and just never got a push and never, you know, never made it through. | ||
| But then there's the other argument that if you really want it, you'll find a way. | ||
| Yeah, you got to do it. | ||
| I mean, my dad used to tell me the same thing. | ||
| He'd be like, You've got to have a plan B. And I'd be like, well, if I have a plan B, I'm not going to try that hard. | ||
| I started thinking in my head, and then that's when I just said, nah, fuck that. | ||
| It's only this. | ||
| No matter if I'm rich or poor, whatever the circumstances, this is what I'm doing. | ||
| I don't give a fuck what the outcome is. | ||
| I think that's the right mindset. | ||
| I don't think people get by that well. | ||
| When I was just starting to do stand-up, there was a lot of guys who had full-time jobs and they got degrees and they would work their full-time job and then they would just do stand-up a couple nights a week. | ||
| They never made it. | ||
| It was the obsessed guys. | ||
| And women, the people that were just like, this is my fucking life. | ||
| This is what I do. | ||
| I'm gonna do this. | ||
| Those are the ones that do it. | ||
| The no safety net people are the ones that made it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's gonna fucking happen. | ||
| You just have to stick with it. | ||
| I feel like the people who really stick with it and give it like 110%, your time will come. | ||
| However big or small it is, something will happen, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, if you figure it out and keep improving and keep learning and learn from your mistakes and learn from your setbacks and keep trying to push and get better and improve. | ||
| If you do all those things, as hopeless and helpless as it seems, if you continue to improve, you've got to get to a better place. | ||
| You've got to get better and one day you'll be undeniable. | ||
| And if you don't, and if you just fall back on that safety net, you're always going to wonder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, you're always going to look at Travis Barker going fucking ham on the drums and going, shit, that could have been me! | ||
| Dude, I almost did it. | ||
| I actually, at one point, my pops, my pops is awesome, but... | ||
| He's like a Vietnam vet and rode a Harley his whole life, and he just basically said to me, he's like, yo, you either gotta start paying rent at the house, because you're not in high school no more, and get a 60 hour a week job, like a real job, or you need to go. | ||
| Go fucking play drums, but you're not gonna do it here in my garage. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So I was like, okay. | ||
| And it was probably the best thing that was ever said to me, you know, as harsh as it was or whatever. | ||
| And then I had actually caved in and I just told my friend Noel, I was like, you know what, I think I'm just gonna, I'm gonna get this fucking job because I just somehow got a job that made, you know, in a warehouse. | ||
| It was like Target warehouse, making pretty good money compared to what I was making at the time. | ||
| And he hit me the next day and he's like, I think you're making a big mistake. | ||
| I think you're very fucking talented and I think you'll regret this. | ||
| And you can get this bullshit job any time down the line. | ||
| Come live with me on, you know, stay at my house. | ||
| You can sleep on the floor or the couch. | ||
| And let's play in this fucking band and do it. | ||
| And I did it. | ||
| You know, I was like a trash man in Laguna Beach. | ||
| Lived in like this studio apartment with a couple other guys. | ||
| And it just fucking took off. | ||
| Like, I had to like, I mean, there was like humility too, you know. | ||
| There was like playing bar after bar and, you know. | ||
| You know, but I was eating. | ||
| I was eating. | ||
| I was, you know, I was skateboarding every day and I was living at the beach playing in a band with my friends. | ||
| So for me, I had already made it. | ||
| Those are the best stories. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're the best stories. | ||
| And I think back even to this day, I go to Laguna sometimes. | ||
| I'm like, wow, that was kind of one of the best moments of my life. | ||
| Besides my children being born, like poor, no money, but like happy as fuck. | ||
| Like can't even think of another time I was that happy. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| The only pressure is the pressure of trying to succeed. | ||
| It's not the pressure of already succeeding and the overwhelming pressure that you must experience now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those are great stories, man. | ||
| The stories where you didn't know if it was going to work. | ||
| Yeah, you have no fucking clue. | ||
| Those stories right now, some kids are listening to those stories right now, listening to you say this, and they're like, fuck, man, I'm going to do it. | ||
| I'm going to go for it. | ||
| Who knows how many rock stars you're making right now just saying this? | ||
| Yeah, because a lot of them are teeter-tottering. | ||
| Like, am I going to do it? | ||
| Am I not going to do it? | ||
| I mean, I was at the time, you know? | ||
| And you just have to, you know, don't worry about being cool or being fucking rich or having money. | ||
| Just be passionate about what you're passionate about and fucking dedicate 100%, you know? | ||
| Yeah, there's those moments, man, when you're first starting out anything where it's not sure. | ||
| It's not a definite thing. | ||
| You're in this weird limbo space like, man, am I going to be a loser my whole life? | ||
| Like, what's going to happen to me? | ||
| And those moments, man, when you look back and you realize you could have quit, but you kept going. | ||
| You figured it out. | ||
| You sucked it up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You worked your way through it. | ||
| You improved. | ||
| You kept moving. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's life, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what defines you, man. | ||
| Yeah, it really does. | ||
| I just love those fucking stories. | ||
| I can never get enough of them, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The dirty, grimy, and then finally you make it story. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're the best. | ||
| Dude, you're running out of space to tattoo, I'm going to tell you right now. | ||
| I'm actually getting tattoos on top of tattoos. | ||
| That's outrageous. | ||
| Yeah, I just got this LLJ for XXX. I'm working on some new ones. | ||
| I've decided to go back in. | ||
| You're kind of like remixing them at this point, you know, like getting tattoos on top of tattoos. | ||
| Have you ever gotten lasered? | ||
| Yeah, once. | ||
| I had like a new wife and I divorced my ex-wife and she wasn't really stoked on the ex-wife's name on me. | ||
| Yeah, that seems like a problem. | ||
| Yeah, so I lasered it because it was right on my neck and she always had to see it. | ||
| But that's the only time I've ever done it. | ||
| There's nothing on me I really want to get rid of where I'm like... | ||
| It's all a story to me. | ||
| It all tells a story. | ||
| It's like a moment in time and I got it for a reason. | ||
| But I was trying to be cool and, you know what I mean, trying to be respectful and make her happy at the time. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it was amazing. | ||
| She hung in there all the way to being married with another chick's name on your neck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a good woman. | ||
|
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True. | |
| In that regard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But yeah, I love tattoos, man. | ||
| They're addicting. | ||
| Yeah, I love them too. | ||
| Once I figured out they didn't hurt at the age of 15, it was on. | ||
| I didn't... | ||
| Yeah, it's like, what people tell you, they're like, oh, it's so painful. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And then you get one, you're like, wait a minute. | ||
| It's not so bad. | ||
| This is like, it's kind of like a slight burn. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's like... | ||
| Kind of therapeutic too. | ||
| Yeah, not that bad. | ||
| I fell asleep while I was getting tattooed. | ||
| Same. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Same. | ||
| When I did my back piece, I fell asleep. | ||
| And I had two artists working on me at the same time. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Just because I fucking hate wasting time. | ||
| So, yeah, they did my back together. | ||
| They did my head together, too. | ||
| Yeah, the head's impressive. | ||
| Let me see the head. | ||
| Let me see what that looks like. | ||
| When did you get that done? | ||
| I did my head like, I don't know, six years ago. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I started, I had like a piece on the side of my head that Mr. Cartoon did back in the day. | ||
| I love that guy's work. | ||
| Yeah, Cartoon is such a legend. | ||
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He's amazing. | |
| He's got great shit. | ||
| He is a legend. | ||
| Yeah, he's a legend. | ||
| Even outside of tattooing, like lowrider culture. | ||
| He's one of the illest. | ||
| But yeah, he did that. | ||
| And then that kind of set it off. | ||
| I always had like praying hands on the side of my head. | ||
| And then I shaved my head and I've never grown my hair out since. | ||
| Because I'm like, fuck it. | ||
| It's a permanent haircut. | ||
| You know? | ||
| What is up there? | ||
| It's hard to see what will shine. | ||
| I have like Virgin Mary right there. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| I think I have like a rose. | ||
| You think? | ||
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Yeah, I don't know. | |
| That's why you know you got a lot of tattoos. | ||
| Like, I don't know what's on my head. | ||
| I have like a transplant gas mask on the back of my head. | ||
| I have one life, one chance. | ||
| Yeah, and then like some writing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Now, when you got burned, did it affect your tattoos? | ||
| Did you have to tattoo over it? | ||
| Yeah, so I lost all of my tattoos on my legs. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yes, I lost my first tattoo ever, which was a Dag Nasty tattoo. | ||
| This hardcore band, punk band that I loved forever. | ||
| And a Bones tattoo, which was my nickname growing up. | ||
| But I lost everything on my legs. | ||
| So then they do what's called grafting. | ||
| Oh, and I lost some tattoos from my back. | ||
| It's like a cheese grater, and they grade all of your skin off your back and my thighs, and then they staple it to you with pig cadaver, and they wait for you to start healing. | ||
| So yeah, so I lost a lot of tattoos. | ||
| And then I did, like on my thighs, you can't really see. | ||
| I did memorials for little Chris, Che, and DJ AM, who all passed away in the accident. | ||
| So I put them on my legs over the grass so you can't really see it. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, I got out pretty well, man. | ||
| Like, I mean, you can kind of see it on my hand. | ||
| My hand, you can see it's discolored and stuff. | ||
| But for having almost 70% of my body burnt, like, you can't really tell. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, you can't really tell at all because you're so tattooed up. | ||
| The pain of healing burns is supposed to be excruciating. | ||
| It's the fucking worst thing ever. | ||
| Well, for me too, I mean, I don't think you guys ever think about being burnt. | ||
| I know I didn't. | ||
| I would just be like, I don't know, I just never think about fire. | ||
| Until you're on fire and then you're like, oh shit. | ||
| And then the treatments afterwards to do everything. | ||
| They would put me in this big pan that was literally about as big as this table. | ||
| With different people all around you, and they would scrape all my burns with a metal brush to get rid of all the infection. | ||
| Because I basically, when I jumped through the emergency exit, when I opened the emergency exit before the plane blew up, I was in such a hurry to get out of the plane and exit the plane, I jumped right into the jet, which is full of fuel. | ||
| So my whole body lit up, you know? | ||
| So I had jet fuel just... | ||
| In my whole body. | ||
| Like I burped jet fuel for almost like three months. | ||
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Oh god. | |
| So they had like, that was the main thing to get rid of an infection is they scrub you with a metal brush to get rid of all of it and all of the dead skin. | ||
| And then I did about 30 surgeries to repair everything, like skin graft surgeries. | ||
| They saved my foot because at one point they were going to amputate my right foot. | ||
| Yeah, it was wild. | ||
| I have pictures from it. | ||
| Is that burnt that they were going to have to amputate it? | ||
| My right foot almost didn't make it. | ||
| Was it because the way it was... | ||
| Was it was necrosis? | ||
| Or like what was going on that they were going to amputate it? | ||
| I think because that was the thing that was most soaked was my shoes and socks when I jumped into the jets, you know? | ||
| And I had done like... | ||
| I had exited the plane. | ||
| I had started running. | ||
| I had started like ripping off my clothes. | ||
| That's what my instinct told me. | ||
| Just get rid of everything. | ||
| But little did I know I would still be on fire because the jet fuel was, you know, I was soaked in it. | ||
| So I'm actually running towards a highway. | ||
| Highway's right on the side of me. | ||
| And I just hear some guy yell like, stop, drop, and roll. | ||
| And it just like, I heard it out of all this chaos of every sirens and everything. | ||
| And I stopped, drop, and rolled. | ||
| And the only thing that was still on fire was my feet. | ||
| And AM came and patted them out. | ||
| So I think they were on fire the longest too. | ||
| So still, I think my right foot is probably like over 50% of it's a graft. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Yeah, it's wild. | ||
| But yeah, that was like, I never, like I said, I never even thought about it. | ||
| It's not something you think about until it happens to you. | ||
| But being burnt is like, it's horrific, you know? | ||
| Were you affected by the recent fires out here? | ||
| It came about a couple hundred yards from one of my houses. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| But I was in Vegas. | ||
| I was actually playing a show. | ||
| We left that morning, and then we got phone calls saying you had to evacuate. | ||
| And your kids were with you? | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Yeah, the kids. | ||
| My dog was with me. | ||
| My housekeeper was at the house, so she was able to get the rest of our dogs out. | ||
| As long as I had them there with me, I was like, everything else is replaceable. | ||
| It's whatever. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But yeah, that was sketchy. | ||
| I mean, you saw, obviously, you live very close by, too. | ||
| Yeah, we got evacuated. | ||
| We got evacuated. | ||
| Well, we evacuated ourselves before they had a mandatory at 2 in the morning. | ||
| I came back from the comedy store. | ||
| My wife and I were looking out the window, and the flames are coming over the hill. | ||
| And I said, no one's going to save us here. | ||
| I go, you know, we have to figure out what the fuck we're going to do. | ||
| And she's like, I think we should go. | ||
| And I said, all right, I think you're right. | ||
| And we just got a hotel room, and we just bailed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I just grabbed, I literally grabbed my laptop, and I think that's it. | ||
| And some clothes. | ||
| And then the kids were a little freaked out, but I said, look, we're here. | ||
| We're all right. | ||
| Like, we could buy more shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, the dog's fine. | ||
| We're fine. | ||
| That's how I was, too. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| Let it burn! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I mean, I don't want it to burn, obviously, but rather than you being hurt, like, fuck, man. | ||
| This is... | ||
| It's an inconvenience when you lose your house. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a horrific tragedy when you lose your life. | ||
| You know, we're not... | ||
| We're going to get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so they were freaked out, but within a day or two, I mean, we stayed in a hotel for a week, but within a day or two, they were cool. | ||
| We were laughing about it. | ||
| Same. | ||
| We did the same thing. | ||
| I came home, but not really home, you know, just lived at a hotel for a week. | ||
| But yeah, it felt kind of helpless. | ||
| Like, you couldn't do much, you know? | ||
| It's not like I could sit there and... | ||
| And put out the fire myself. | ||
| They wouldn't even let us in our community. | ||
| Yeah, same here. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| For people that weren't around here, they don't know how crazy it was, but the sky was filled with smoke. | ||
| Everywhere you looked was smoke. | ||
| I mean, all of LA was filled with smoke. | ||
| We stayed in Beverly Hills at the Waldorf, and you look out the balcony window, and it's just fucking gray. | ||
| Just smoke everywhere. | ||
| I've never seen fires like that before. | ||
| Never in my life. | ||
| Me either. | ||
| And I always see we're on high alert. | ||
| You know, I'd see it like my kids are at school over in Malibu or really close to there. | ||
| And I always see high alert, but nothing's ever really happened. | ||
| You know, there's been like small fires, but that was horrific. | ||
| That was just, it looked like Hiroshima in our neighborhood. | ||
| Like, you know, airplanes flying really low, dropping like fire retardant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Bill Burr flies helicopters. | ||
| He's got his helicopter license. | ||
| And we took a flight around Malibu, around Point Doom. | ||
| And you go over there and you see these massive estates just burnt to the ground. | ||
| These gorgeous houses with the perfect view on the bluff overlooking the ocean. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Huge lots. | ||
| You know, $20 million houses. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Just burnt to the ground. | ||
| And there's so many of them. | ||
| And then like one house standing there. | ||
| One house out of just random. | ||
| That's how it was in our neighborhood, too. | ||
| Like, a house caught fire, but nothing near it caught fire. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah, some shit will fly through the air, land on someone's house, and if you have, like, pine needles or something on your roof or a flammable roof, you know, it just catches on fire. | ||
| Was it a campfire that started? | ||
| It's called Campfire, but I don't think it was a campfire. | ||
| That was the name of the fire. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck the cause of that fire was. | ||
| Jamie, see if you can find that out. | ||
| Do you know what it is? | ||
| No, I think they've been trying to blame, or blame has been put on different utility companies and whatnot, and they're not taking the blame where they can prove that it wasn't them. | ||
| It's been being passed through. | ||
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I don't know that anybody knows yet, from what I've been looking at. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking crazy though, man. | ||
| When I was in Boulder, there was a giant fire that broke out that was a fireman accidentally started. | ||
| Yeah, he had a fire pit in his backyard and some fucking embers blew out of his fire pit and started a giant fire and just burnt massive amounts of wild forest. | ||
| It's just gone. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah, a fireman. | ||
| Imagine how that guy felt. | ||
| Of all people, yeah. | ||
| He must have felt like shit. | ||
| I mean, anybody just couldn't fucking imagine if it was your fault that one of these things get started. | ||
| Oh, yeah, the guilt. | ||
| I wouldn't be sleeping for weeks. | ||
| The craziest shit is Northern California. | ||
| Northern California got it way worse. | ||
| We got it bad down here, worse than I've ever seen, but they got it way worse in Northern California. | ||
| Northern California, they lost like a shitload of people who died on the highway. | ||
| That's what I saw, man. | ||
| They burnt to death in their cars. | ||
| You see those photos? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Sad. | ||
| You know, and a lot of this is because of, I mean, there's a lot of issues, right? | ||
| There's the dry, you know, the fact that dry climate, the fact that, you know, there's a climate change that's happening, but also the fact that there's no small fires. | ||
| Like, all those dead trees are supposed to get knocked down by small fires, like controlled fires. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that doesn't really happen anymore. | ||
| We don't want small fires that can possibly get out of hand. | ||
| And so you have these forests that are oftentimes filled with dead trees right next to live trees and a lot of dead trees all over the place. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So that's like maintenance, burning the small dead ones? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, some people advocate doing it for maintenance. | ||
| But in nature, that's like a natural thing. | ||
| Like lightning would hit, light some shit on fire, and the live trees would probably survive. | ||
| And a lot of the dead ones would burn to the ground and it would actually regenerate the forest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the crazy thing is like you look how fucking lush and green it looks out here now. | ||
| Like, you would never imagine that just a few months ago, this was a raging inferno. | ||
| It actually is good for the ground. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, when all that carbon... | ||
| It still smells like fire, too, right now, right? | ||
| Some places, yeah. | ||
| Every time it rains, it's starting to get a little bit better, but... | ||
| Does it freak you out when you see fire now because of your accident? | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah, it took a little while for us to have pyro again. | ||
| I remember it was like we had just got back together and like this really really like killer like photographer had this idea to do this photo shoot and they wanted us holding like the um whatchamacallit the thing like the flares in the accent. | ||
| And he got me to hold it for a second, and I was like, ah, bro, I can't do this. | ||
| Like, wrong photo shoot. | ||
| Like, I'm sorry, you know, I know you have this vision, but I... That's an insensitive vision. | ||
| Yeah, and he kind of knew... | ||
| How about water hoses? | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| That would have been a little bit more fitting. | ||
| And now we do pyro stuff on stage and production, and it doesn't really bug me. | ||
| But I'm very cautious around the house. | ||
| Like, you know, my daughter, she has like a... | ||
| A straight iron plugged in or for my son, whatever, lights a candle. | ||
| Like, I'm so crazy about it. | ||
| Yeah, I can imagine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A little weird. | ||
| So, I have to ask you, does Tom talk about UFOs all the time? | ||
| Well, you know he's not in the band no more. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But did he always do that? | ||
| He always did. | ||
| We used to get loaded and just look out the bus window for a while. | ||
| And I used to do it with him. | ||
| I was like, I don't know, it's kind of a bonding experience. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| If you wanted to show me bow and arrows, whatever, and we're on tour together, of course, I'd sit there and check it out. | ||
| With Tom, that was his thing. | ||
| Let's get high and look for UFOs. | ||
| So we would. | ||
| We'd just sit there and stare out the bus window, look at UFOs. | ||
| He would even go as far as when we're on tour, let's go and fucking look for Bigfoot. | ||
| Whatever it was, you know? | ||
| And he would assemble a crew and they would go do it. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He never got me on one of those trips because that was just too fairytale for me. | ||
| But I would, you know, I'd do that and he was always, it's really not something he just got into from the day I fucking met him. | ||
| He was obsessed with UFOs and aliens and was always very passionate about it. | ||
| To the point where, like, I didn't know enough to have any kind of, I guess, like, opinion on it. | ||
| I was just very open and, you know, just took it all in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But nothing has changed. | ||
| He's still... | ||
| The other day I talked to him, he's like, I'm on the way to the fucking White House, bro. | ||
| And I don't ask any questions. | ||
| I'd be like, as you should be. | ||
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You know, whatever. | |
| Like, let's fucking go. | ||
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As you should be. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What a great response. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, he was a trip, man. | ||
| Having a conversation with him was very strange. | ||
| Because part of me was like, is this guy putting me on? | ||
| Like, what is happening here? | ||
| He's dead ass. | ||
| Dead ass. | ||
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Dead ass. | |
| Seemed like it. | ||
| And we would look at these videos that were so clearly horse shit. | ||
| And he would be like, amazing, right? | ||
| And I'd be like, what? | ||
| Like, you think that that's an actual UFO? Like, that is the fakest fucking video I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he didn't see that at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In his mind, he was seeing a real alien spaceship. | ||
| Even on tour, I'd be like, he'd walk in my room and he'd be like, what are you doing? | ||
| And I'm like, oh, check this thing out. | ||
| I just made up, whatever, playing drums. | ||
| He'd be like, dude, fucking whatever George Bush just did. | ||
| You know, he's just coming at me with some, like, politics. | ||
| He's been watching CNN or, yeah. | ||
| Like, he's just, he's always been obsessed with it. | ||
| So he's obsessed with all sorts of hidden things, like not just UFOs, but Bigfoot too. | ||
| Conspiracy theories, politics, everything. | ||
| Very, very passionate about all those things. | ||
| Conspiracy theories and politics. | ||
| It's interesting how those things go together. | ||
| Because people were always wondering, like, who the fuck is running things? | ||
| What's really going on? | ||
| What's happening behind the scenes? | ||
| Who's pulling the strings? | ||
| What does it all really mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, but the UFO thing, it's like, boy, boy, you gotta... | ||
| I mean, I absolutely believe there could be intelligent life out there, but I haven't seen a fucking single thing that makes me think that anybody's got a picture or a video. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like it could be real, I believe, but I can't fucking... | ||
| I'm not dedicating my life to search for it, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I give it to him, man, to like, honestly, to walk away from your fucking very successful band to go do that shit, like, I have nothing but respect for his passion, but it's like, I couldn't do that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, that just, it really shows, like, he's, you know, he's very, very passionate about it. | ||
| I hope he saved up some money. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| You know Survivorman, Les Stroud? | ||
| Nah. | ||
| You ever see that show? | ||
| It's a fucking great show. | ||
| Survivorman would go out into the woods with a limited amount of things. | ||
| He would say, like, okay, I've got this bucket, I've got a fucking pocket knife, and I've got a ball of yarn, and I'm going to survive out here for seven days. | ||
| And he films the whole thing. | ||
| And he'd be filming himself eating frogs and catching a squirrel and finding edible plants and just living out in the forest and oftentimes going days and days without food. | ||
| And then he would have a point where he'd get rescued. | ||
| Seven days in, there would be a spot where they would meet him. | ||
| He had an experience when he was in Alaska a long time ago where he was camping. | ||
| And he said he heard footsteps, like big, heavy footsteps. | ||
| And he heard some sound. | ||
| It sounded like a gorilla. | ||
| Like something like that. | ||
| And then it ran off. | ||
| And to this day, he's convinced that that was a Bigfoot. | ||
| And so now he has Survivorman Bigfoot. | ||
| And he goes out into the woods and just looks for evidence of Sasquatch. | ||
| Well, he needs to hit up Tom. | ||
| Tom will pull up. | ||
| He'll go with him. | ||
| He would love that. | ||
| I'm sure he would. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's tried to get me to go with him. | ||
| I'm like, good luck. | ||
| I did it one time. | ||
| I went hunting for Bigfoot for a television show I did for SyFy called Joe Rogan Questions Everything. | ||
| And we went... | ||
| Looking for Bigfoot. | ||
| And the more I talked to these Bigfoot folks, the more I was convinced that none of these motherfuckers had ever seen Bigfoot. | ||
| There was one lady that I talked to, one lady, who just did not seem like a liar. | ||
| And she was telling me that she saw something in the woods, and it was standing up, and it was tall, like seven, eight feet tall. | ||
| And she's like, why is there a gorilla in the woods? | ||
| And then she's like, oh my god, that's Bigfoot. | ||
| And it was the Pacific Northwest, like outside of Washington State, or in Washington State, outside of Seattle. | ||
| And the woods are so dense up there that if anything goes 10, 20 feet, it's gone. | ||
| The problem with that is that there's black bears up there. | ||
| And black bears sometimes stand up on two feet. | ||
| They do it all the time. | ||
| And if you saw a black foot, especially... | ||
| A black bear, rather, especially from a distance, you would think it was a big gorilla. | ||
| If it was standing up on two feet, which they do do, especially when they're trying to see something, they'll stand up and they'll even walk. | ||
| There's a lot of videos of them walking on two feet. | ||
| Damn, just on their hind legs. | ||
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You ever seen it? | |
| Nah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I could see how that would resemble a Bigfoot, though. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think... | ||
| I don't think that lady's a liar. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I mean, look, it might be real. | ||
| There might be a few of them left. | ||
| There definitely was a thing called Gigantopithecus that lived in Asia. | ||
| And the thought is that it came across the Bering Land Bridge the same time that Native Americans came across from Asia. | ||
| And that they came across, you know, because they lived in Asia, and this Gigantopithecus, I think, lived as recently, I think, as 100,000 years ago. | ||
| I think the most recent fossils they have of it, which is, you know, human beings were alive back then. | ||
| And this thing was an 8 to 10 foot tall bipedal hominid. | ||
| So it was a huge, huge ape-like creature. | ||
| So check this out. | ||
| This is, look at this bear. | ||
| Is that the craziest shit ever? | ||
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Wow. | |
| Bears walking on two legs. | ||
| Look at them. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Like, if you saw that, you'd be like... | ||
| Oh, that's totally... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you can mistake that. | ||
| Yeah, you'd be like, oh my god, it's a fucking Bigfoot! | ||
| Especially if you believe the hype and you're searching for Bigfoot out there. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or if you're on shrooms. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Right? | ||
| I mean, if you're walking around, if you're high on mushrooms, you're like, oh my god, Bigfoot's real. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| He's like, hey, how you doing? | ||
| Oh, he's got a hurt right foot. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| You see his right foot? | ||
| There's something wrong with his right foot. | ||
| Sometimes, yeah, it looks like he's missing his front paw. | ||
| It says, sometimes, you know, bears will fight with each other and one bear will bite the other bear's foot off. | ||
| Or he could have gotten shot or he could have broke it off on something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, he's missing a foot. | ||
| So he's walking around out there like a gorilla. | ||
| But everybody else, I was like, when I'm talking to them, they're like living in make-believe world. | ||
| Here's another one walking around. | ||
| Look at them. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That is weird, man. | ||
| Those are big-ass bears, too. | ||
| Big-ass bears. | ||
| Chilling on two feet, man. | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| They look like fucking people, man. | ||
| I think that is a big reason why. | ||
| And they're feeding them. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| Where is that? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| That doesn't seem like America. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| It's just South Korea, yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Oh, so that's one of those wildlife parks where the animals are all, and you're in a car. | ||
| Yeah, that's like fake wildlife. | ||
| I mean, wildlife, but not really wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you ever seen that video where the lady was in China and they were in one of those parks and she got in a fight with her boyfriend and she got out of the car and she got killed by a tiger? | ||
| No. | ||
| She actually, she didn't get killed. | ||
| Her mom got killed. | ||
| She's more fucked up. | ||
| Because her mom came out to rescue her. | ||
| She got snatched by the tiger. | ||
| And then her mom, watch this shit. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Oh no, there's a video of it. | ||
| She's like, fuck you. | ||
| I'm fucking walking. | ||
| And they're like, hey, listen bitch, get back in the fucking car. | ||
| There's tigers out here. | ||
| She's like, no, no, no. | ||
| Fuck you and fuck him and fuck you. | ||
| And the tiger just grabs her, snatches her out. | ||
| So the guy runs out and then the mom runs out and apparently the mom got killed. | ||
| So here comes the mom. | ||
| That lady wound up dying. | ||
| Yeah, and there's a park ranger like, shit! | ||
| Yeah, when you get snatched up by a 600-pound cat. | ||
| Did you hear about that fucking dude in Colorado today? | ||
| He killed a mountain lion with his bare hands. | ||
| He smothered it to death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It jacked him while he was jogging. | ||
| He was running on the trails. | ||
| The mountain lion grabbed him from behind. | ||
| He got in a struggle with his 80-pound cat and wound up suffocating it. | ||
| I can see this fucking badass jogger. | ||
| Yeah, I want to know what the jogger looks like. | ||
| Just holding that motherfucker by his neck. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| It would have to be like Derek Lewis or someone, you know? | ||
| I can't picture anyone else being able to do that. | ||
| Maybe he's a jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| Yeah, we see him. | ||
| I've seen him when my kids were really young in Calabasas where I live. | ||
| I saw one just pacing back and forth in my back fence. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're out here, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're out here. | ||
| I mean, we see coyotes and deer all the time, but mountain lions, that's next level scary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A friend of mine just sent me a message this morning when I posted that thing on Instagram about that guy that killed it. | ||
| And he said he was running on this fire road and he realized, he like felt weird and looked over and 20 feet away from him was a big cat right above him on this ridge. | ||
| 20 feet. | ||
| So that's basically us to that wall. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Big cat just looking. | ||
| And he said he waved his arms to look bigger and the thing just walked away. | ||
| I carry a knife when I run. | ||
| I carry a fucking half-faced blades. | ||
| It's got like a loop. | ||
| You can stick your thumb into it so it stays in your hand. | ||
| And people are like, why are you running with a knife? | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| You don't need it until you do. | ||
| And when you do, you want to have it. | ||
| Didn't someone get attacked by a coyote in Hidden Hills running? | ||
| Did they? | ||
| I wouldn't be shocked. | ||
| I mean, I ran in my neighborhood before, and two coyotes ran right past me. | ||
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They're creeps. | |
| Yeah, they usually don't mess with humans, you know? | ||
| Well, we had a problem with them killing chickens, because I have chickens in my yard. | ||
| I've lost a bunch of chickens to coyotes. | ||
| They were on top of the chicken coop, pulling tiles off of it. | ||
| They're creepy little fuckers, man. | ||
| But they're little. | ||
| These are like 35, 45 pounds. | ||
| They're not very big, but they're creepy. | ||
| They're little wolves, and they're looking at you, and they're trying to figure out a way, like, what can they eat, what can't they eat? | ||
| They're out there scraping, scraping and grinding. | ||
| They're sneaky, like, gangster. | ||
| Like, I saw one of my friends, a dear friend of mine, he lost both of his dogs to coyotes, and he had, I think he had, like, surveillance of it. | ||
| And one is in the yard and he's playing dead. | ||
| And then his dogs approach what they think is dead. | ||
| And then basically his homie comes out of nowhere and attacks. | ||
| And the one that's playing dead attacks. | ||
| And both of his dogs were a rat. | ||
| How big were his dogs? | ||
| Small. | ||
| I mean, they were smaller dogs, but now he has like big German Shepherds and he's, you know, he's kind of like got bigger dogs now, but it was really sad, man. | ||
| It is sad. | ||
| But they're very tactical, like very, very crazy. | ||
| Yeah, they figure out some way to work and cooperate together without communicating. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like if it wasn't so sad that they're killing someone's pet, it's really kind of fascinating that they're so smart that they would play dead. | ||
| There was a guy that used to work at this pet store that I go to, and he also worked in a veterinary center, a medical place, and a pit bull came in, one of those big jack pit bulls, just covered in cuts. | ||
| It cuts all over its body. | ||
| And the owner was, you know, they asked the owner, like, what the fuck happened? | ||
| He goes, I don't know. | ||
| He goes, I came home, and he's covered in cuts. | ||
| I really have no idea what happened to him. | ||
| So they stitched the dog up, like hundreds of stitches all over the dog's body. | ||
| Then he takes a walk outside of his house and he follows his dog's blood. | ||
| And he goes up into the hills near his house and he finds nine dead coyotes. | ||
| That Pitbull was gangster. | ||
| Apparently. | ||
| He just went on a tear. | ||
| And he said it looked like Vietnam. | ||
| It looked like a fucking, like, Saving Private Ryan just ripped apart coyotes. | ||
| Nine of them. | ||
| This motherfucker just went mauling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They must have been so bummed out. | ||
| They're like, we can get this dog. | ||
| Yeah, there's nine of us. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you see this fucking fire hydrant head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That doesn't feel pain. | ||
| They've engineered those things. | ||
| There's some pit bulls. | ||
| There's this pit bull, if you go on Instagram, I think it's IamtheHulk. | ||
| That's the name of the pit bull. | ||
| It's a 200-pound pit bull. | ||
| They've gotten them to 200 pounds now. | ||
| It's the most preposterous thing you've ever seen in your life. | ||
| It looks like... | ||
| Brock Lesnar if it was a pit bull. | ||
| It's like it doesn't even make any sense. | ||
| You look at it like that. | ||
| A pit bull used to be like a 35 pound dog. | ||
| They used to be small. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| What in the fuck? | ||
| Imagine if a coyote saw that. | ||
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Fuck! | |
| Look at that thing! | ||
| Bull mastiffs are fucking scary too. | ||
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Look at the size of that thing! | |
| Yeah, I had a mastiff. | ||
| He passed away recently. | ||
| He was 13 years old. | ||
| Yeah, we had to put him down, man. | ||
| It was really sad. | ||
| He was a great dog. | ||
| Mastiffs are so sweet. | ||
| Like, look at the size of that fucking dog, man. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Just yoked, too. | ||
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It's a crazy 200-pound pit bull. | |
| It's just so crazy that they make him that big now. | ||
| Like a 100 pound pit bull used to be a big... | ||
| I had a 90 pound one. | ||
| It was a big dog. | ||
| And I was like, wow, that's a big pit bull. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, that's a big pit bull. | ||
| This dog's 110 pounds bigger. | ||
| It doesn't even make any sense. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's a fucking tank! | ||
| Yeah, but that's one of my favorite coyote death stories. | ||
| This guy going up into the hills and finding all these dead coyotes just laying in a pile. | ||
| They try to ambush them. | ||
| What they would do, they try to get one to come out and try to get chased. | ||
| And then the one would run, and then the other ones would jump it. | ||
| They're like a gang, straight up. | ||
| That's crazy that they think like that, though. | ||
| They actually have strategies. | ||
| They're savages. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Well, that's like the downside of living in the suburbs. | |
| The upside is you get a nice yard and you get a little view and... | ||
| Yeah, I love getting away from the city or like, you know, it's like studio or just chaos, whatever. | ||
| Just going home and being home. | ||
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Yeah, me too. | |
| It's nice. | ||
| Do you keep a place up in Big Bay or anywhere? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| You ever go up there? | ||
| I don't really like traveling. | ||
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Really? | |
| Nah. | ||
| After my accident, I fucking hate traveling. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Like, I'll go on tour, but I won't even look at an itinerary before I go on tour. | ||
| I just kind of like, just tell me where to go. | ||
| I'll be up, I'll be where I need to be, but yeah. | ||
| Like, I don't want to, and I don't fly. | ||
| You know, I haven't flown since my accident. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| So all your touring you do is by bus? | ||
| Yeah, by bus, and then I'll take the Queen Mary 2 to Europe, but... | ||
| No way! | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Do you take a boat to Europe? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Imagine if your boat sunk. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And you're on a fucking float raft going, motherfucker! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| But, you know what? | ||
| I'd rather be on the fucking raft than fucking plummeting into the ocean at 100 miles per hour or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, I feel ya. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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How long does that take? | |
| I go to Laguna for quick getaways. | ||
| Just chill out with the family. | ||
| So if you guys have a gig in New York City, you have to start your journey five days early? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's cool. | ||
| The kids and I get to see a lot of stuff we don't normally see. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I got to really think about it. | ||
| Like that fucking fire festival that they had booked us on. | ||
| And I was like... | ||
| I'm so glad because I would have had to drive five or six days to Florida, to Fort Lauderdale, then get in a boat, and then get over to the Bahamas. | ||
| So thank God, man, because I was literally on my way there. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So when you do that, do you actually drive yourself or do you have someone drive you? | ||
| No, I'd be white-knuckling driving the tour bus. | ||
| Have you driven a tour bus? | ||
| It's fucking scary, man. | ||
| Well, you're driving like this, right? | ||
| I've done it, like, when I was 19 or, like, 20, when I was on a tour, the driver let me drive. | ||
| And it was the scariest fucking thing. | ||
| I was like, take the fucking wheel, man. | ||
| This is so scary. | ||
| Like, white-knuckling. | ||
| Just being in control, being responsible over that big of a bus, and all of my homies, all your friends are sleeping in it. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| Oh, gosh, man. | ||
| I give it. | ||
| Bus drivers are... | ||
| It's a hard fucking job, you know? | ||
| It's a hard fucking job. | ||
| And they drive for, you know... | ||
| I think, you know, we usually do eight to ten hour days a day on the bus. | ||
| It's a long time. | ||
| It is a long time. | ||
| It's quite a drive. | ||
| And, you know, they have to stay awake and maintain their focus. | ||
| And I don't know about you, but when I see those white lines, there's something about that. | ||
| It's not good for me. | ||
| I start nodding. | ||
| Yeah, it's like hypnotizing us, right? | ||
| Yeah, it is hypnotizing. | ||
| It's hypnotizing for me. | ||
| Yeah, I could do like two or three hours and I'm cool. | ||
| I don't want to, you know. | ||
| San Diego is about as far as I want to drive. | ||
| Yeah, they're built different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I know, fuck, you know, they say it's way more dangerous to be on the road in a bus or in a car than be in a plane, but I don't know, one day. | ||
| I always say like if my kids want to fly one day, maybe I'll be down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the thought of me leaving to go... | ||
| Play some show or do something cool and something happening while they're at home like fucks me up. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I don't really do it. | ||
| I know what you mean. | ||
| I can only imagine. | ||
| I mean, I don't think anybody's ever going to be able to understand what you've gone through with that kind of an ordeal. | ||
| A plane crash where your friends died and the pilots are dead and you managed to get out alive but almost lost your foot and burned half your body plus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, fuck, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's crippling, but I try not to let it be too much of a handicap. | ||
| Besides my traveling. | ||
| You seem like you gotta work around. | ||
| You figured it out. | ||
| But Australia can go fuck itself, huh? | ||
| I wish I could go. | ||
| Dude, I love Australia. | ||
| I love Japan. | ||
| Fuck, I love Japan. | ||
| Do you guys go there for UFC fights? | ||
| Yeah, I have been. | ||
| I fucking love it there, man. | ||
| We did a UFC in Tokyo once. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| I honestly wanted to move there. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I loved it so much. | ||
| David Lee Roth moved there for a while. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| He moved there to take sword fighting classes. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Moved there with his dog, got an apartment. | ||
| Have you ever talked to him? | ||
| No. | ||
| He is one of the trippiest fucking guys. | ||
| I just got a message really recently that he wanted to talk to me, and so they gave me a phone number for him. | ||
| I sent him a text message and never heard back. | ||
| It's like, I might have to call him. | ||
| I don't want to miss it out. | ||
| So Dave, if you're listening, I tried twice. | ||
| But he said he wanted to get a hold of me for something, and they gave me a number to get a hold of him. | ||
| But he's one of the more interesting people I've ever talked to in my life. | ||
| He worked as an EMT for a while when he'd just gotten out of Van Halen. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes, like an actual EMT, like helping people. | ||
| Like, in New York. | ||
| And people are like, are you fucking David Lee Roth? | ||
| And they're like, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're getting you in the ambulance. | ||
| Keep it together. | ||
| They're like strapping people to a gurney when they had accidents and shit. | ||
| Imagine you get in a car accident and fucking David Lee Roth is here to help you. | ||
| You're like, what? | ||
| I must be dead. | ||
| This isn't real life. | ||
| Imagine fucking David Lee Roth. | ||
| You're going to be fine, buddy. | ||
| That's legendary. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| He's a trip. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be a great interview. | ||
| Moved to Japan with his dog. | ||
| Just hung out there. | ||
| I go, what are you doing? | ||
| He's like, I'm taking kendo lessons. | ||
| Just taking sword fighting lessons from a Japanese master. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| So every day he'd be taking fucking kendo. | ||
| Sick. | ||
| He's the real deal, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's the real deal. | ||
| Like a real eccentric, but a really friendly, really interesting guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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What a trip. | |
| That's awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love when someone is like that. | ||
| Like your friend that hasn't talked for 22 years. | ||
| I love shit like that. | ||
| Yeah, you don't hear about that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Or someone that'll stop being in Van Halen to go fuck with swords. | ||
| Or Tom. | ||
| Yeah, to go fuck with aliens. | ||
| Yeah, fucks with aliens. | ||
| Do you think they're really bringing him to the Pentagon and shit like that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| And I had watched a little bit of your podcast where you were like... | ||
| You sent me a text message. | ||
| Why are they picking you? | ||
| But I feel like he's made himself readily available to do that shit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I sit and scratch my head and go, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know either. | ||
| He's such a talented dude too, man. | ||
| He's such a good songwriter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he certainly is. | ||
| He's certainly a very talented guy. | ||
| It's just so interesting that that's his main point of focus. | ||
| I would think that if aliens were real, Trump would have told us. | ||
| I really do believe that. | ||
| That guy, he's such a fucking loose cannon. | ||
| He became the president. | ||
| Maybe they hid it from him. | ||
| Or as fucking chaotic as shit is right now, I don't know, something would slip. | ||
| Yeah, I would think that if they told him... | ||
| If they brought him... | ||
| Those are two things I would want to know. | ||
| Who killed JFK? Those are two things I'd want to know if I became the president. | ||
| And are aliens real? | ||
| What do you got, motherfucker? | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| I go to the top generals. | ||
| I go, look, I'm going to defer to you guys. | ||
| I'm not a military expert, okay? | ||
| I don't want war, but I want you guys to have support. | ||
| I got full respect. | ||
| Tell me about the aliens. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Trump orders the establishment of Space Force. | ||
| I mean, he did that. | ||
| That's right, the Space Force. | ||
| But that's because that's actually a military strategy because they're concerned that as technology improves, Russians are going to be in space and we're going to be in space. | ||
| Or fight off the aliens. | ||
| Right, like Will Smith type shit. | ||
| Yeah, look at him. | ||
| Yeah, Mike Pence is behind him going, Jesus is going to save us. | ||
| LAUGHTER Yeah, I don't know, man, but if I became president, I never will, but if I did, those are the two things that I'd want to know. | ||
| Who killed JFK, and where are the fucking aliens? | ||
| Do you think they know? | ||
| Do you think they know anything more than regular people? | ||
| Because you've got to feel like they come in every four years, someone would open their mouth. | ||
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Somebody knows. | |
| Somebody knows. | ||
| What did Elon Musk say? | ||
| He's an alien. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's not going to rat on his friends, right? | ||
| Drive that car. | ||
| I'll give you the key. | ||
| Just take it for a tour. | ||
| Just take it for a spin out of here. | ||
| I will. | ||
| That fucking test will make you believe in aliens. | ||
| It doesn't even make sense. | ||
| It does not make sense. | ||
| I feel like I'm driving a computer when I'm in a Tesla. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's like every car other than that seems stupid. | ||
| So is this the first one you've had? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And you're just completely in love with it? | ||
| Sold. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Sold. | ||
| I drove one. | ||
| There was a rental car company that was sponsoring the podcast and it was like Uber for rental cars. | ||
| They would drop off a rental car and they would... | ||
| Do you remember the name of that company? | ||
| I don't know if they're around anymore. | ||
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Yeah, I'll look. | |
| Anyway, I said, yeah, I want to try a Tesla. | ||
| And I drove it. | ||
| I was like, it was kind of interesting. | ||
| But this was years ago. | ||
| Maybe five years ago, was that? | ||
| Four years ago? | ||
| Five years ago? | ||
| It wasn't as impressive. | ||
| But now I got the Model S P100D. This is what he told me to get. | ||
| So I said, all right, I'll get it. | ||
| I drove that thing. | ||
| The moment I drove it, the first couple of feet, you're like, what is happening here? | ||
| Why is this going so fast? | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| It's effortless. | ||
| Like, effortless. | ||
| Like, every other car on the road has to accelerate. | ||
| It's like... | ||
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This guy's... | |
| Wow. | ||
| It's instantaneously going 60 miles an hour. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it just feels like it's happening in like blink, blink, 60. Yeah. | ||
| And fucking smooth and you can't hear anything. | ||
| You don't hear anything. | ||
| It handles great. | ||
| It's quiet as shit. | ||
| It's comfortable. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm fucked! | ||
| Dude, I'm a gearhead! | ||
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I'm like you! | |
| I know. | ||
| Do you still have that blazer? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, that's dope. | ||
| Yeah, I tried building my icon version of a blazer. | ||
| Who built that for you? | ||
| His name was Delmo. | ||
| He was over here in the valley. | ||
| So he did the LS swap, and then I had another buddy of mine paint it, and then I just did ground up suspension. | ||
| But I feel like I should have replaced the chassis and done everything like that if I wanted it to be a true icon. | ||
| But it's a bad fucking truck. | ||
| It's so fun. | ||
| It's a dope looking truck. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| That is so sick. | ||
| It's so fun. | ||
| You know, Icon's done some blazers. | ||
| Yeah, I saw one they did afterwards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, so you have it. | ||
| It's a full convertible, no hard top. | ||
| God damn, that looks good, dude. | ||
| Yeah, I put a soft top on it, like a bikini top. | ||
| But summertime, I just take it all off. | ||
| But I have a roll cage too. | ||
| Sick. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love the lowered ones too, like the slammed ones. | ||
| They're so nice. | ||
| Yeah, go back to those though. | ||
| That's so nasty, man. | ||
| Is that the color? | ||
| You have like a matte? | ||
| Yeah, it's like a matte, like charcoal, Mercedes gray. | ||
| God, that looks good. | ||
| Yeah, it almost pops wheelies. | ||
| It's so fucking strong. | ||
| There's so much horsepower. | ||
| Which engine did they put in there? | ||
| An LS3. Oh, okay. | ||
| How many horsepower is that? | ||
| I think I'm at like 700. That's so ridiculous. | ||
| That's so ridiculous. | ||
| But besides that, you know, I had like 16 old schools. | ||
| I actually fell out of love with them. | ||
| It's kind of weird. | ||
| Or I think I've spent my time with them, and I'm ready to separate from them and move on and maybe get other stuff. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel like it was a moment in time, though. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| Kind of like hood rich in a sense, where I put all my money into cars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, before I ever bought a house, I had like four caddies, you know? | ||
| And I was living in like a two-story, a two-bedroom house, you know, with a bunch of friends. | ||
| Dude, that old red one behind you is dope. | ||
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What is that? | |
| Yeah, I still have that 53 Chevy truck. | ||
| Oh, that looks so cool. | ||
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It's bad. | |
| Icon does some of those too. | ||
| You ever see the Thriftmaster? | ||
| Yeah, Thriftmaster is so tough. | ||
| He's got one for sale right now. | ||
| I saw it. | ||
| Yeah, somebody had one built and then just never drove it. | ||
| And he's selling it. | ||
| It is nasty. | ||
| Dude, I go over there and window shop all the fucking time. | ||
| Have you met him? | ||
| Yeah, he's super cool. | ||
| He's very cool. | ||
| Bro, he drove me in the Thriftmaster. | ||
| That one's available right now. | ||
| Look at that fucking thing. | ||
| He drove me in one of those and was like hitting corners at 70. Like, I fucking almost lost my breath. | ||
| I was like, this motherfucker is crazy. | ||
| But they really do perform. | ||
| They're great fucking cars. | ||
| Even my Bronco, even though it's so high, it's so high off the ground, you would think that thing handles like shit. | ||
| It handles really good for something like that. | ||
| Is it like stock, how it comes from Icon? | ||
| Like that same height? | ||
| Or did you do anything to it? | ||
| Stock, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he just does them all that way. | ||
| And I was originally going to get an FJ made from him. | ||
| And I went there and I saw the Bronco in person with that matte silver and I was like, holy shit. | ||
| Oh, is that what you did? | ||
| I go, scrap the fucking FJ. We need to get this going. | ||
| So did you do the whole build out? | ||
| How long did it take? | ||
| Well, you're on a waiting list for a long time, and then I think the build took close to a year. | ||
| It's like close to a year. | ||
| I'm so fucking impatient. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| But the key is like have it in the, then just forget about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because then time goes by. | ||
| Do you drive it a lot? | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I drive to the comedy store like two or three nights a week. | ||
| But since I got the Tesla, I'm telling you, man. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| It's ruined me. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| It's ruined me. | ||
| I'm a gearhead. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I like old school cars. | ||
| I have a 65 Corvette with an LS1 supercharged. | ||
| I drive that all the time. | ||
| Side pipe. | ||
| You know, that cool silver shape. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| But it seems so dumb. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It seems so dumb once you drive a Tesla. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's effortless, dude. | ||
| It just goes. | ||
| It's like you're on Fast Forward. | ||
| I need to check it out. | ||
| Everybody else is living in the past. | ||
| Yeah, like maybe last year, I used to have the Wraith, like the Rolls Royce. | ||
| Oh, that's a sick car. | ||
| It's a bad car, yeah. | ||
| Did you have the ceiling with all the lights? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It looks like space. | ||
| It was so sick, but my buddy John said, hey, let's swap cars wherever we were driving, so I did. | ||
| And I was really impressed. | ||
| It was really, really fast. | ||
| Which one did he have? | ||
| Did he have the 100D? I imagine it's the one before the one you're talking about because it was a couple years ago. | ||
| Those were fast. | ||
| Yeah, but it was still impressive, you know? | ||
| Yeah, those were fast. | ||
| They're still fast, but this one is fucking stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| It's like you're defying what you think a thing can do. | ||
| And it has that big fucking screen where it has all your information. | ||
| Yeah, everything. | ||
| Yeah, they're dope. | ||
| He's definitely a legend, man. | ||
| Elon Musk. | ||
| I got his blowtorch, too, like his fucking... | ||
| Right there, man. | ||
| You got one? | ||
| Nice. | ||
| He lit that fucking thing up in the hallway out here. | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah, I thought he was going to burn the building down. | ||
| I haven't even lit mine. | ||
| I'm so afraid. | ||
| My son's like an animal. | ||
| I don't want him to know how to turn it on. | ||
| Yeah, he gave it to me and put the fucking fuel in it and everything. | ||
| I was like, alright, thanks. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| He comes bearing gifts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How many people give you a blowgun, a blowtorch gun? | ||
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I know. | |
| What would you call it? | ||
| Torch gun? | ||
| What would you call it? | ||
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It's not a blowtorch. | |
| Right. | ||
| No, what does he call it? | ||
| It's not a... | ||
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It's not a blowtorch. | |
| Yeah, not a blowtorch. | ||
| Is that what it's called? | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Whatever it is. | ||
| There's a crazy picture online that we put up of him shooting that fucking thing out in the hallway. | ||
| And you're like, you can't tell him no. | ||
| No one tells him no. | ||
| He's got security around him and all these fucking mercenaries with guns. | ||
| No one's saying anything. | ||
| He rolls hard, dude. | ||
| He's Elon Musk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's worth billions. | ||
| Everywhere he goes. | ||
| I mean, he's got to have security everywhere. | ||
| Guys come before him and case everything out. | ||
| Yeah, look at him. | ||
| What an iconic photo. | ||
| With the freak party sign above his head. | ||
| It's almost like we planned it. | ||
| And Steven Tyler, that's Steven Tyler's mugshot in the background. | ||
| Crazy, man. | ||
| The outtakes from your guy's interview, too, where he's just, like, fucking stoned beyond his mind and shit. | ||
| It's so great. | ||
| I don't think he got stoned. | ||
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He didn't? | |
| I don't think he really inhaled. | ||
| He took, like, a tiny puff. | ||
| I think he puffed it like a cigar. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| I don't think he really smokes weed. | ||
| Didn't inhale? | ||
| He drinks. | ||
| We drank. | ||
| That's what was interesting about that. | ||
| The blowback or the backlash is that we drank for two hours before we even busted out the weed. | ||
| But the weed was like, what are they doing? | ||
| The guy takes one hit of weed. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| And then it went crazy and stock plummeted 6%. | ||
| But it went back up to 9% the next day. | ||
| And you're supposed to smoke before you drink, right? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Because I think you get really fucked up if you don't smoke a lot and you smoke after you've been drinking. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's a wrap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't think it affected him. | ||
| His brain is wired so different. | ||
| You know what his brain is like? | ||
| No disrespect to Pete Holmes, but you know Pete Holmes, the comedian. | ||
| Look at his body and then look at Usain Bolt's. | ||
| That's how I feel if they had a race. | ||
| That's how I feel with my brain in the room with Elon's brain. | ||
| These are barely the same thing. | ||
| They're barely the same thing. | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| You keep up, man. | ||
| You've had some crazy guests that are talking about atoms and fucking the universe and whatever else, and you're always... | ||
| You keep up with everybody. | ||
| It's an illusion. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just memorize things. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. | ||
| They understand the actual concepts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I might be able to repeat things that I've learned and read, but I don't know what the fuck I'm really talking about. | ||
| They know what the fuck they're... | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like, if someone never did jiu-jitsu before, and they want to talk about... | ||
| Choking someone out in a triangle, and I hear them say it, I'm like, okay, yay, that's how you do it. | ||
| That's how you do it. | ||
| But they don't really know how to do it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But then, if you talk to Hoist Gracie, and he tells you how to choke someone out with a triangle, like, this motherfucker did it. | ||
| He knows how to do it. | ||
| He does it all the time. | ||
| It's a different conversation. | ||
| So that's the difference. | ||
| Me, I'm like a spectator talking to these geniuses. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm just trying to pull information out of them. | ||
| I'm just trying to get them to talk. | ||
| I just try to know a little bit about what they're talking about. | ||
| The guys that were on, I don't know, what was it last week? | ||
| The guys that were talking about longevity, like living a long time? | ||
| Yeah, David Sinclair. | ||
| Yeah, that was pretty crazy. | ||
| Fascinating, right? | ||
| Yeah, super fascinating. | ||
| Yeah, I'm glad there's people like that out there. | ||
| I think within the next 15 to 20 years, people are going to start going back in aging, like legitimately. | ||
| They're going to be able to not just slow down aging, but we're going to see like 60-year-old ladies that are hot as fuck. | ||
| We're going to see 60-year-old ladies that look like they're 32. I really believe that. | ||
| Yeah, I do too. | ||
| Coming around the corner. | ||
| Especially how he was talking about that diabetic medicine that he takes. | ||
| Metformin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but apparently that stuff has negative impacts on athletic performance. | ||
| It's one of the things that I was curious about when he discussed it. | ||
| And Dr. Rhonda Patrick sent me something on it, and Ben Greenfield actually brought it up on the podcast we did a couple days afterwards. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably good for longevity but not good for athletic performance, which is... | ||
| I'm not willing to make that sacrifice. | ||
| Yeah, and he's probably not really concerned with athletic performance. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he barely worked out. | ||
| And he wasn't into working out hard either. | ||
| His deal is like just maintain a little bit of exercise just to kind of keep the blood moving. | ||
| But a lot of those guys that are these super genius sort of longevity experts, they're just interested in how you can slow the clock down as much as possible. | ||
| And then there's other people like Ben Greenfield or like Rhonda Patrick. | ||
| They're more interested in performance. | ||
| Like what's the best thing for you in terms of for your mental performance, physical performance. | ||
| I'm more in line with that, but I'm also – I want to know what these guys are working on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like the David Sinclairs of the world because he's at the top of the – the tip of the spear when it comes to longevity and gene editing. | ||
| What they're talking about is being able to inject certain genes or bacteria that carry genes. | ||
| It's going to fix eyesight. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Like, people that are blind are going to be able to see again. | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| They're going to be able to do some mad, mad shit. | ||
| As long as human beings don't, we don't figure out, I mean, we don't nuke ourselves or fuck the world to a point where, you know, scientific research halts. | ||
| If these guys can keep going, if we can make it to the next 50 years, people are probably going to live to be 300 years old. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Nuts. | |
| I'm down. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| How fucking smart people are going to be if they're 300? | ||
| I mean, think about how smart you are compared to when you were 20. Yeah. | ||
| I was a dummy. | ||
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Me too. | |
| I was so dumb. | ||
| I was so dumb, I'm amazed I'm still here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got to stop and think about how I used to drive. | ||
| Oh, same. | ||
| Now, you have old schools. | ||
| Do you have hot rods? | ||
| Do you have any hot rods? | ||
| Nah, pretty much like slow and low, like old schools. | ||
| Those are safer. | ||
| Yeah, I had a couple Impalas. | ||
| I just got rid of two of my Impalas. | ||
| And I have like a 53 Caddy. | ||
| I still have. | ||
| I have a 64, a 60, a 53 truck, and a 41 Caddy. | ||
| 41 cab. | ||
| Yeah, it's nice, man. | ||
| It's really fucking nice. | ||
| But it's like a three-speed, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, it's like, it's, you know, no power steering. | ||
| It's like, yeah, you gotta know how to drive. | ||
| So, yeah, I still have a couple that I'm holding on to, but I really... | ||
| No power steering? | ||
| The steering wheel must be giant. | ||
| It's gigantic. | ||
| It's so sketchy to drive. | ||
| But yeah, I'm gonna bring a couple out. | ||
| I have a festival that happens in March called Musink that's like tattoos, music, and cars. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| So I bring a couple of them out there. | ||
| Where's that at? | ||
| Orange County Fairgrounds. | ||
| Oh, alright. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nice, nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, but yeah, but I'm slowly, I really just, I don't know, I want a simpler life, man. | ||
| I want to be able to get in a car and not worry about if it fucking breaks down and I can get to point A to point B with how busy I am. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Dude, stay the fuck away from that Tesla. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm telling you, it'll ruin you. | ||
| Oh yeah, there she is. | ||
| That's yours. | ||
| Wow, that's beautiful, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What a car. | ||
| I mean, what a, like, not just a car, but a window into time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's history. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Back in 1941, that's what people drove, man. | ||
| That was the shit back then. | ||
| People tooling around Manhattan in one of those. | ||
| Yeah, I love seeing those, you know, the movies that take place during those timers and they find all those classics. | ||
| So cool. | ||
| You know what was great? | ||
| The more recent version of The Great Gatsby with Leonardo DiCaprio when they drove those cars, but it was a weird movie because they made those cars almost like modern. | ||
| It was very strange. | ||
| That's how Romeo and Juliet was, too. | ||
| The one with... | ||
| The one with Leonardo? | ||
| You know what I'm talking about? | ||
| Did you notice that? | ||
| All the guns in there were super ill? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| All the cars? | ||
| Sick. | ||
| It was futuristic? | ||
| Yeah, some weird interpretation. | ||
| But still time period correct, right? | ||
| Yeah, so that's time period correct, but when he drove that car, it drove like no fucking car. | ||
| See if you can find a scene... | ||
| sounded like it was supercharged and it's flying and it's handling well but it's all like cartoonish almost like everything the scenes where like when these they're driving these cars they're nothing like those cars were back then oh yeah because they don't move like that No, especially when they're on the road. | ||
| Yeah, unless you do an LS swap and you redo everything. | ||
| When they're on the road, these fucking cars didn't drive like that, man. | ||
| They had skinny-ass bullshit tires. | ||
| They barely could break. | ||
| You hit the brakes, it took forever to slow down. | ||
| That was a great movie, though. | ||
| Yeah, those are sick. | ||
| Yeah, see, they're all going sideways around corners and shit. | ||
| Nobody did that back then. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| It's weird how they do that with movies where they're having a race. | ||
| Yeah, we're racing. | ||
| I mean, when that electric car outside will blow by these motherfuckers. | ||
| The problem with those Teslas... | ||
| Is that once you get in one, other cars just seem kind of dumb. | ||
| They seem kind of old. | ||
| Oh, I bet. | ||
| I feel like you're stepping into the future when you drive those. | ||
| Anything else wouldn't seem even up to date, you know? | ||
| But there's something about cars like your 41 Cadillac that have a theme to them that you're never going to get from a new car. | ||
| Yeah, you know what's cool about those is like, when you're in those, you're not concerned with whatever's on the radio or talking on the phone or... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You're content with just hearing the car and driving. | ||
| Driving is fun. | ||
| Whereas if you're just in a 2019 Chevy truck, you're not going to feel like that. | ||
| But if you take it that far back, just the smell of them, everything, it's a vibe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You can't compare it to anything. | ||
| Yeah, when I bought my 65 Corvette, the first thing I did was pull the radio out. | ||
| I said, get that out of here. | ||
| I don't want to hear that radio. | ||
| It's unnecessary, really. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to hear those side pipes and the wind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's going to be a thing of the past, man. | ||
| I really firmly believe that now after driving this car. | ||
| I think 50 years from now, those things are going to be... | ||
| It's going to be like seeing some guy drive by on a Model T. Yeah. | ||
| Engines are going to be a thing of the past. | ||
| It's probably better for the environment anyway. | ||
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Oh, for sure. | |
| Anyway, I think that's it. | ||
| Let's wrap this up. | ||
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Dope. | |
| Dude, thank you so much. | ||
| Oh, it was a pleasure. | ||
| Really glad we got together, man. | ||
| I really appreciate you, man. | ||
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Of course. | |
| It was very cool talking to you. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Likewise. | ||
| Social media, your Instagram is just Travis Barker. | ||
| Travis Barker. | ||
| And do you use Twitter as well, or just... | ||
| Yeah, same, Travis Barker. | ||
| Travis Barker. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Really appreciate it, man. | ||
| It was fun. |
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