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Jan. 27, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - January 26, 2019
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brendan schaub
51:08
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bryan callen
14:36
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eddie bravo
34:15
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joe rogan
01:31:15
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jamie vernon
00:10
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brendan schaub
All the results.
joe rogan
5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Boom!
And we're live, ladies and gentlemen.
It's a fight companion.
It's me, Brian Callens, on the way, but it's his birthday.
And he's old as fuck, and sometimes you get old, you lose your keys, and you don't know what time it is and shit.
Eddie motherfucking Bravo!
brendan schaub
Yo, yo, yo!
joe rogan
And Brendan Chobb is up in this bitch.
brendan schaub
What up?
joe rogan
And we're watching Bellator.
I hope nobody at the UFC gets mad.
But it's a big fight.
This is an important one.
We are...
Right now, this is...
The heavyweight finals is going to be Fedor versus Ryan Boehner.
brendan schaub
I'm excited for that.
joe rogan
I am excited about that.
I'm very excited.
I like Ryan Boehner at heavyweight.
He looks fucking fantastic.
brendan schaub
Love him.
He's bigger than me right now.
joe rogan
Dude, how many of these guys just should have done that a long time ago and just stopped cutting weight?
brendan schaub
Went to heavyweight?
joe rogan
Just crucifying their body.
brendan schaub
Chris Weidman, I think, is kind of one of the main ones.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
I think he's going to excel at light heavyweight.
joe rogan
He's got a disc replaced in his neck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's fucked up, but I'll figure it out.
eddie bravo
The worst nightmare, though, for a fighter in wrestling or MMA is just being overpowered by somebody.
That's why they're killing themselves.
They would rather go in there depleted than get thrown around.
brendan schaub
It's so old school.
It's such an old school way of thinking, I feel like.
eddie bravo
It makes sense, though, a little bit.
To be that bully?
In wrestling, it's still fun.
brendan schaub
I know, but look at T.J. Dillashaw.
Look at TJ Dillashaw.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, but that's hard to say.
Let's talk about that fight.
Because I watched that fight several times.
I'm of the opinion that was a quick stoppage.
brendan schaub
Early stoppage for sure.
eddie bravo
Early stoppage.
brendan schaub
Here's my other point with that.
When they're 125 pounds, you can let it go on a little longer than if they were heavyweights.
I'd hear more on the side of let it go longer because they're 125 pounds.
joe rogan
They could be 1,000 pounds each and that fight got stopped quick.
eddie bravo
Let them fucking fight.
joe rogan
Let them fucking fight.
brendan schaub
Especially when you're talking about a legacy fight.
unidentified
Dudes were pissed.
eddie bravo
Dudes were expending 69 bucks.
joe rogan
How about TJ? Exactly.
brendan schaub
Dude, that's a legacy fight.
joe rogan
Right, that guy drained his body to get down to 125 pounds.
eddie bravo
Hey, don't get me wrong though, Henry Cejudo is a beast.
Bad motherfucker.
unidentified
He's a beast.
eddie bravo
He probably would have beat him anyways.
unidentified
Maybe.
eddie bravo
But for people that are paying for the event, we want to see some highlight shit.
We want to see a definite knockout.
We don't want to, you know...
I thought the ref, whoever he was, he was just...
In the beginning, you could tell he wanted to stop it.
There's guys that they just want to get in there and save their lives.
brendan schaub
He's a really good ref, though.
eddie bravo
You're not going to save anybody's life.
joe rogan
He made a mistake.
Look, it's fucking hard to do.
It's a hard job.
I am so glad I'm not a referee.
Because when they make a mistake, they can't say, Oh, I fucked up.
Let's do it again.
You remember they used to be able to?
Do you remember when Big John McCarthy stopped the fight between Murillo Bustamante and Matt...
Fuck.
eddie bravo
Matt Lindland.
joe rogan
Matt Lindland.
Matt Lindland tapped and said he didn't tap.
And Big John McCarthy let the fight continue.
eddie bravo
And he tapped him again.
joe rogan
Bustamante got him in an arm bar.
eddie bravo
Check out this arm bar.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that right away.
Damn, we missed an arm bar.
eddie bravo
That was some serious jiu-jitsu right there, dude.
joe rogan
Well, we'll see it in the highlights.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Unfortunately, we have to talk.
brendan schaub
We'll just warm it up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Let's get real.
joe rogan
That was nice.
Hey, Bellator's got some fucking high-level fights now, man.
They are on the way up.
They're as close to the UFC as you can get right now.
brendan schaub
They have the biggest prospect in the sport in Pico.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
By far.
eddie bravo
Not even close.
Taking it back a little bit, what about Conan Silveira versus Sokka fucking Raba?
Remember that shit?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, man!
eddie bravo
Same thing!
joe rogan
They redid the fight!
eddie bravo
Yeah!
joe rogan
The whole fight got redid.
eddie bravo
That's old school.
It got stopped early.
joe rogan
That was Big John too.
eddie bravo
And then they decided, you know what, let him fight again.
joe rogan
Big John, he got hit.
eddie bravo
Later that night.
joe rogan
Conan hit Sakuraba.
Sakuraba dropped and went down for a single.
And they stopped the fight.
And he's like, what the fuck are you doing?
But that was in Japan.
They pulled him aside.
In Japan, it's like, no.
brendan schaub
Wild West, bro.
joe rogan
They were like, no.
brendan schaub
I don't know why they don't let Big John score the rounds.
joe rogan
That's tight.
brendan schaub
I don't know why they don't let him chime in unofficially with a scorecard and tell everyone how it's going.
joe rogan
Probably doesn't.
He probably doesn't want to do it.
eddie bravo
The problem with that is...
When I did it, the problem was, when they announced the unofficial scorecard, and if I was right, and the general consensus was on my side, and they flash it, if the other fighter wins, dude, those judges get trashed.
unidentified
They should get trashed.
joe rogan
They should get trashed.
eddie bravo
They have to be held responsible.
No, this is what it was, though.
In the beginning, the UFC was bending over backwards for the commission, because they had to.
brendan schaub
Well, they still are.
eddie bravo
They had to, but they had to.
But boxing doesn't have to do that.
brendan schaub
Boxing doesn't have to bend over backwards for the commission.
eddie bravo
Boxing was around before the commission.
So boxing doesn't have to kiss ass to the commission.
The UFC had to because they were a new sport and the commission could have easily just shut it down.
So it was a different dynamic.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
The difference is you were doing it as an independent, meaning you weren't doing commentary.
So we were doing commentary and you were coming in in between rounds.
It was very educational.
If Big John was doing it, the problem would be that he's actually doing commentary while he's doing it.
That's very hard to do.
I'm not a fan of doing that.
Because when I'm doing commentary, I'm telling you what's happening, but really what I'm trying to do is be entertaining.
I'm trying to give some life to it.
I'm trying to put some emotion to it.
But I'm not...
Really scoring.
brendan schaub
No, I'm not saying that, but I'm not saying have, like, say you score it and then also do the fight.
I'm saying maybe have him outside of it, because they have 17 commentators.
joe rogan
Well, Big John is their big guy, though, now.
It's Goldie and Big John.
brendan schaub
Well, you got Frank Mary, you got Chael Sonnen, you got Goldie.
joe rogan
But while the fights are happening, the voice you're hearing on television is Big John.
There's no way he can do that, in my opinion.
I don't feel like...
eddie bravo
That would be a big cut in his paycheck.
joe rogan
Jimmy Smith used to do that.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying he can't.
joe rogan
Jimmy Smith used to do it.
Jimmy Smith used to do scoring in between rounds.
And it was good.
It was good.
Jimmy's very good at it.
eddie bravo
What's he gonna do now?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I'm not happy.
I'm not happy that the UFC got rid of him.
I think he's really good.
I get it.
I understand it.
They have a lot of other people.
eddie bravo
Did he leave Bellator on bad terms or good terms?
joe rogan
I do not know.
I think they were cutting the money.
brendan schaub
It was a financial thing.
I don't think he left on...
He's still on good terms, but they offered him less money because they have these other dudes.
So he's like, oh, the UFC's obviously their dream job, but they signed a one-year contract.
eddie bravo
Did you ask anybody why they let him go?
joe rogan
They want to use fighters.
brendan schaub
It wasn't a fit.
joe rogan
But he did fight.
They want UFC fighters.
They want UFC fighters.
eddie bravo
You know what?
That's how the NFL is.
The color commentator is always a former NFL player.
Tony Romo?
brendan schaub
Tony Romo as a commentator?
He crushed it.
joe rogan
I heard he crushed it.
brendan schaub
Oh, the best.
He calls exactly what's going to happen before it even happens.
He goes, Alright, people kind of dislike it.
I love it.
He goes, this is going to be a run to the right.
Get ready.
And then, sure enough, that's what they do.
He reads it before it all happens.
Then they even check.
He goes, alright, he's going to throw a slant in the top left.
Hire that fucking dude.
joe rogan
Hire the fucking Mama Cleto of NFL. They were all talking about him at the store last night.
They were talking about how insane his commentary is.
I love him.
Jason Tebow was saying he's the best commentator in all sports.
eddie bravo
What game did he commentate?
brendan schaub
He did the Brady game.
The Patriots Chiefs.
eddie bravo
Dude, that game.
I know it's about MMA, but fuck, dude.
joe rogan
Hey, Eddie, talk us through this, by the way.
Here.
He's going for the Kimura.
Yeah, fuck your football, Eddie.
But while this is happening, while this is happening.
unidentified
Fucking Brady, dude.
joe rogan
Well, let's call this guy's name out, too, because we didn't give this guy's name away.
eddie bravo
To counter the takedown, he goes for Kimura, and he rides that Kimura all the way to an arm bar, and then he kind of swims with the Kimura still intact, the arm pops, and boom.
joe rogan
Fucking beautiful, huh?
That's some tight-ass submission.
brendan schaub
He looks strong, too.
eddie bravo
That's just a super-powerful Kimura.
joe rogan
Yeah, amazing.
Amazing.
brendan schaub
Powerful beard as well.
eddie bravo
Kimuras aren't just for Kimuras.
Kimuras are for back takes and for straight armbar setups.
You know what I mean?
So, the traditional Kimura is probably the heart, you know, when you take the arm and you crank it behind his back.
That's probably the hardest of the three.
You know, it's probably easier just to use the Kimura grip to take the back or to turn it into a spiderweb armbar.
joe rogan
Adele Altamimi.
Adele Altamimi.
A.K.A. Chris Pratt's friend.
Chris Pratt's in there with him.
eddie bravo
Is Chris Pratt a comedian?
joe rogan
No, Star Lord.
brendan schaub
He's the guy who controls the Philosoraptors, bro.
joe rogan
The fucking guy from Jurassic Park.
eddie bravo
Dude, I don't watch Jurassic Park.
brendan schaub
Guardians of the Galaxy?
joe rogan
Guardians of the Galaxy?
eddie bravo
Oh my god, I walked out of that as soon as that fucking little wood, little animal thing.
What do they call it?
The Vin Diesel voice.
Groot.
Oh my god.
How dare you?
joe rogan
There's Chris Pratt right there.
He's with the guy the whole way.
What is happening?
Now, this is a little overboard, Chris.
brendan schaub
Why is Chris so intense, too?
joe rogan
Chris, I love you, buddy, but get the fuck out of the picture.
He's translating.
brendan schaub
And that shirt is way too tight.
And that's coming from a guy like me.
That's way too tight.
joe rogan
No, that's how I like to wear mine.
brendan schaub
No, you don't, sir.
No, you don't.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, especially if I'm on TV. Dude, he has a mid-trip.
Not only am I doing that, I'm doing push-ups before I get up there.
unidentified
Bro, how dare you?
joe rogan
I'm going to do some fucking dips on some chairs.
That's a beautiful armbar, though.
brendan schaub
Dude, let's hear Chris Pratt get on the mic.
Shout out to Ernest Galaxy.
joe rogan
No, we don't have to turn it up.
It's okay, because I don't want...
Oh, we should tell people what the time code is.
Do we have a time code up?
jamie vernon
I had it up, yeah, but it was so quick it froze, and then I took it off, and then I took it off.
eddie bravo
We'll let you guys know.
Maybe that's Bellator's idea.
Maybe they think, hey, how about we have celebrities walk out with these fighters?
joe rogan
They'll try anything, bro.
They'll try porn.
They'll try fighter porn.
eddie bravo
Isn't Bellator kind of blowing up?
joe rogan
The men fighters, the female fighters bang each other.
They're doing well.
Is this pay-per-view?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That was a disaster.
They've done pay-per-view.
It was a disaster.
eddie bravo
Not the Hoist Gracie one.
They made money on that one.
joe rogan
I don't think that was pay-per-view, was it?
brendan schaub
These do well.
The Paramounts do well.
They get good ratings.
joe rogan
Am I wrong?
I think the Hoist Gracie one was not pay-per-view.
eddie bravo
The Hoist Gracie, Ken Shamrock.
brendan schaub
That's not pay-per-view.
eddie bravo
That wasn't pay-per-view?
brendan schaub
In 1996 it was.
They can't do a pay-per-view in 2016. Come on, man.
eddie bravo
You know you watch that shit.
Did you watch it?
brendan schaub
I watched it all.
eddie bravo
I was excited.
brendan schaub
I was excited, but I watch them all.
I have a problem.
joe rogan
Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz did 25,000 buys.
eddie bravo
No way.
brendan schaub
Dude, that's so fucked up.
joe rogan
Dude, you could do 25,000 buys.
brendan schaub
I could piss into this beer can and get 25,000 buys.
joe rogan
You could do a seminar on Flat Earth and you'd get 25,000 buys.
unidentified
That's true.
joe rogan
That's true.
unidentified
There's a lot of dumb motherfuckers out there.
joe rogan
I mean, it is fucking crazy that Dad only got $25,000.
unidentified
Is it crazy?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
The card was so poorly done.
So bad.
Thundercard was so fucking terrible.
The production was awful.
Their intros were ethically bad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Ethically fucking bad.
It was kind of a shit show to watch.
I enjoyed it because it was such a shit show.
It was just a decent product.
It's not as fun.
eddie bravo
It was the Oscar De La Hoya show.
joe rogan
It's so bad.
Dude, if I look like a thumb, does Jay Glazer look like a big toe?
brendan schaub
Big Torah dickhead.
eddie bravo
Dude, I almost shaved my head.
I almost shaved my head the other day.
joe rogan
You should do it.
brendan schaub
Completely?
joe rogan
It's freedom, man.
unidentified
You have great hair.
eddie bravo
Dude, I'm losing it.
brendan schaub
It's freedom.
unidentified
Whoa!
eddie bravo
I'm eventually going to have to shave.
brendan schaub
No, Eddie, too soon?
Fuck yeah, you got good hair.
Don't join that club.
unidentified
Yeah, bro.
brendan schaub
Don't listen to these guys.
eddie bravo
I'm about to go.
Might have to grow a beard.
joe rogan
I'm one guy here.
brendan schaub
Callan needs to fucking let it go.
Let's be real.
His hair is going, we'll see ya.
eddie bravo
I almost showed up with a bald head.
brendan schaub
Don't do that to me, dude.
You got good hair.
joe rogan
Calen's got the same issue.
Calen had hair transplant, too.
So he's got a scar back there as well.
eddie bravo
It's getting so light.
joe rogan
He probably didn't tell the world.
brendan schaub
No, he's talked about it before.
joe rogan
No, he has.
I know.
I would never say it if he did.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you who has the best fucking hairpiece is Piven.
That shit, I had no idea.
Do you know he used to play George Costanza on Seinfeld?
Because he had the same fucking bird's nest thing.
joe rogan
Well, he had a bunch of surgeries, I think.
brendan schaub
Oh, no, that thing is dead meat up there, bro.
That thing is fucking, that thing is sewn into a skull.
I had no idea.
eddie bravo
How dare you?
joe rogan
This is live.
eddie bravo
Oh, what?
brendan schaub
People are listening?
eddie bravo
I'm just saying.
brendan schaub
He has fucking, no, I'm saying good for him.
Good fake hair.
Yes, there's no problem, you know, there's no issues.
I'll probably do the same shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Thank God it's not the 80s, though, because in the 80s, man, if you had long hair and you were losing your hair, it was basically a death sentence.
I had a singer in my band.
joe rogan
No one could have a shaved head back then.
unidentified
What do people do?
eddie bravo
Rob Halford was the only guy.
We allowed him to shave his head because he could sing so great.
We just said, okay.
joe rogan
He's also dressing really weird, you know, with his fucking biker leather shit.
eddie bravo
Well, he dressed like people in the gay community dress.
Came out with the leather and the motorcycles and all that shit.
And all the kids thought that was heavy metal.
So I wore all that shit.
And I always thought in the back of my head, I thought it was weird that gay people wear the same shit and dumb dudes do.
I thought that was weird.
It must be a coincidence.
joe rogan
Dude, we've talked about that on the podcast before, that Rob Halford conned a whole group of people into dressing gay.
eddie bravo
How about Freddie Mercury was telling everybody he was super gay, he was not trying to hide it from anybody, but I thought, oh, he's just a rock star.
brendan schaub
His style was dope.
eddie bravo
The band's name was Queen, but no one thought he was gay.
joe rogan
Are you sure no one thought he was gay?
eddie bravo
Probably some people, but the masses didn't.
joe rogan
I bet everybody knew.
eddie bravo
Not the masses.
brendan schaub
It took a while.
If you watch the movie, like the documentary, everyone was like, what?
But now we look back and we're like, are you fucking joking me?
eddie bravo
He was telling everybody.
How about Elton John?
joe rogan
Well, forget all of them.
Liberace is the craziest one.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
Liberace, they were like, Liberace, when are you going to find a nice woman and settle down?
I keep looking.
I can't.
eddie bravo
Well, you know what?
I don't know.
I think Freddie Mercury was a little crazier than...
brendan schaub
No, Liberace, bro?
eddie bravo
The name of his band was Queen.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
But he's a rock star.
Liberace played a piano and came out in a fucking gold Royals Royce and had fucking pigeons coming out of his asshole.
And we're like, no, he's normal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Did we talk about this before?
Why there's such a disproportionate amount of gay singers?
joe rogan
No, why?
eddie bravo
Because who's...
Dude, who's running the music business?
brendan schaub
A lot of gay dudes, and who's gonna...
joe rogan
Wait a minute, is that true?
I don't know anything about that.
eddie bravo
It's true, it's no big deal.
joe rogan
Gay guys are running the music business?
brendan schaub
Did you know that, Brendan?
No, I didn't know that.
eddie bravo
You didn't know that?
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
eddie bravo
Who's down to suck dick quicker than a gay singer?
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
So you think the reason why there's so many gay singers is that they're the ones who suck the dicks to make it to the top?
eddie bravo
That's just the theory.
joe rogan
That's just the theory.
Hold on.
eddie bravo
There's a disproportionate amount of gay singers.
joe rogan
Let me offer you an alternative explanation.
eddie bravo
Think about that.
brendan schaub
There's way more straight than gay.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Hold on.
Here's the alternative explanation.
Gay people feel maligned.
They feel like they're left out.
They are sad because of this.
They live hard lives.
They maintain all of this emotion inside of them.
And they want to express it some way.
So they figure out a way to sing and to entertain.
That's that shit right there, bro.
eddie bravo
Now you look at that.
brendan schaub
Behind the Candelabra is the best movie ever.
joe rogan
That's what I think.
I think they're bullied and they're depressed.
The people that are the most pushed out in society, those are the ones who become comedians.
Those are the ones who become singers.
Those are the ones that become actors even.
brendan schaub
They write the best shit.
joe rogan
They need something to get out.
eddie bravo
Gay comedians, there ain't that many.
brendan schaub
You'd be surprised.
joe rogan
Oh, there's a gang of them.
eddie bravo
No.
joe rogan
There's a gang of them.
eddie bravo
There's a couple.
joe rogan
No, there's a gang of them.
There's a lot.
I know quite a few.
brendan schaub
I'd say there's more gay actors than there are singers.
Bro, singers?
Name some few singers.
unidentified
We just talked about four or five that are dead.
joe rogan
Two, three, Rob Halford, still kicking.
Liberace died of everything.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
He had the full cocktail running around inside of him.
brendan schaub
Just everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, I hear that dick implant.
brendan schaub
Fucked all the dudes.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz used to have a fucking bit, and we played a little bit of it one time on the podcast, but it's not the best version of it, of Beyond the Candelabra, the fucking HBO movie with Matt Damon.
I love that movie.
And Michael Douglas.
Do you remember Joey Diaz's bit?
eddie bravo
Yeah, I saw it in San Jose.
That was probably one of the best sets I've ever seen him do in San Jose.
brendan schaub
He had that whole bit down.
San Jose Improv?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Joey was a goddamn monster.
Well, he's still a monster, but that bit was just so funny.
It was such a funny bit, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, Cole Conrad?
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
Wait, why are they showing this?
Oh, they're showing the UFC heavyweight champs.
Oh, look at the birthday boy!
joe rogan
The Bellator heavyweight champs.
brendan schaub
Even on your birthday, can't come on time.
joe rogan
Shob was shitting on your hair while you were gone.
bryan callen
He was what?
joe rogan
Shitting on your hair.
bryan callen
Why would you sit on my head, bro?
joe rogan
I told him you should shave his head.
How's Saturday, bro?
bryan callen
You never know, and there's a lot of room here.
joe rogan
Eddie, shave your head.
brendan schaub
Dude, it's your birthday?
joe rogan
You're on microphone, so come over here and sit down.
brendan schaub
Dude, it's your...
Don't make me fuck you up on your birthday.
Okay, dude.
Okay, dude.
joe rogan
Have a seat.
Have a seat, bro.
brendan schaub
Did you bring wine and cheese?
bryan callen
Yeah, I brought wine.
No cheese.
brendan schaub
No fucking cheese?
eddie bravo
Did you bring your axe?
joe rogan
On your birthday, you didn't bring cheese?
bryan callen
I got some special wine, though.
unidentified
But no cheese, dude.
Bro.
bryan callen
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
We were just in the middle.
joe rogan
You legitimately hurt my ear.
bryan callen
I'm sorry, buddy.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you?
brendan schaub
What'd he do?
bryan callen
No, you came at me and I came at you.
joe rogan
Oh, he collided in my ear.
brendan schaub
You guys both collided heads?
joe rogan
No, he shoved my earpiece in my ear.
eddie bravo
Do you have a gold tooth?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Oh, okay.
It looked like you had a gold tooth.
joe rogan
Do you have a gold tooth?
bryan callen
I tripped over that thing.
That's why I fell into your ear.
joe rogan
These are not good if somebody hits you in the side of the head.
unidentified
Fuck no.
joe rogan
They go right in your ear.
brendan schaub
It's like Mike right there.
bryan callen
That does hurt.
That's surprising.
brendan schaub
It's gold.
Remember when I missed that high five?
eddie bravo
Shave it.
unidentified
No, do not shave it.
joe rogan
Shave it, bro.
You look good.
brendan schaub
His hair's good.
joe rogan
You get a little crude cut.
eddie bravo
I should wait a little bit on shaving it.
joe rogan
Listen to these dummies.
bryan callen
You're losing it?
eddie bravo
Yeah, there's going to be a point where I'm going to have to shave my fucking head.
bryan callen
Dude, you have a beautiful head of hair.
eddie bravo
That's what I said.
I look at it in pictures.
I'm like, God damn.
I got the biggest forehead ever.
bryan callen
Dude, when I do my show, they got to paint my scalp.
brendan schaub
See?
And he's still rocking it.
eddie bravo
At least you got paint.
joe rogan
Put some headphones on.
bryan callen
They paint my scalp.
joe rogan
Put some headphones on.
bryan callen
Shave your head.
brendan schaub
B, all I was saying is if anyone's going to shave their head, it's you because Eddie has good hair.
Right.
Well, thank you.
If it's scale one to ten, who's losing?
eddie bravo
You're never going to lose your hair.
brendan schaub
I've got to worry about running my eyebrows.
eddie bravo
You might need hairline reduction.
unidentified
For reals.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
bryan callen
I got the Rogan route.
You got beautiful, shiny hair.
eddie bravo
Can you imagine if that was a problem, like some dudes?
You know what I mean?
I know a couple Brazilian guys that have their hairline right above their eyebrow.
They might have to shave in a hairline.
brendan schaub
Khabib has to, for sure.
His shit is like...
bryan callen
You too, though, bro.
You have a very short forehead.
joe rogan
How about Hanato?
eddie bravo
Hinata Magno?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Totally.
That guy will never lose his hair.
His hair starts here.
joe rogan
His forehead starts to inch above his eyebrows.
bryan callen
I love him.
He was my jiu-jitsu instructor for three years.
Great guy.
eddie bravo
Street sports.
joe rogan
The best.
Couldn't be a nicer guy.
bryan callen
Yeah.
eddie bravo
You know, Jonah Hill is training jiu-jitsu with Hinata right now.
Jonah fucking Hill.
brendan schaub
He's on jiu-jitsu.
eddie bravo
And he's skinny and shit.
brendan schaub
He's getting skinny.
eddie bravo
Dude, he lost so much weight.
joe rogan
He got skinny and then he felt like his head was too big.
He started gaining weight back.
Legitimately.
eddie bravo
No, he's skinny again.
He's in great shape.
joe rogan
He probably realized how dumb that was.
That happens to people sometimes because, you know, when you get like 400 pounds, your fucking head gets big.
brendan schaub
Your skull, dude?
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him!
eddie bravo
Check that out.
unidentified
Look at him!
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
Is that real?
bryan callen
Henato would say when you roll with somebody, he'd go, make his face nice, clean.
Make nice.
joe rogan
Look at that, man.
Beautiful.
Good for him, man.
Good for him.
bryan callen
He looks good.
joe rogan
He does look good.
Well, you know, if his head's bigger and his body's too skinny, you're just going to build your body up and make it the size of your head.
bryan callen
I think John Hill's a very good actor.
joe rogan
He's a really nice guy, too.
I met him one day at K-Rock.
Back when people did radio.
bryan callen
Oh, there's Jen.
joe rogan
Who?
brendan schaub
There's Cub Swanson, Jen, Stevenson, and then Jack Swagger.
bryan callen
Look at Cub Swanson.
joe rogan
Oh, there's Joe Daddy.
That's Joe Stevenson.
He just said that.
So we are watching the Bellator event.
Brian Callen.
Do you know who's fighting tonight?
bryan callen
Yes.
Fedor.
joe rogan
And who's he fighting?
bryan callen
Ryan Bader.
joe rogan
This guy's good.
Ricky Bandejas.
Damn.
He's the guy that beat that Irish kid.
The fuck's his name?
brendan schaub
Oh, Gallagher?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Gallagher's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, he KO'd him.
brendan schaub
He did bad.
And Gallagher talked all that shit.
joe rogan
That's what Gallagher does.
He's basically trying to do the Conor McGregor thing.
brendan schaub
He is, but he's talented.
joe rogan
He's very talented.
But more talented on the ground.
brendan schaub
For sure.
That's filthy.
joe rogan
And Ricky's nasty standing up.
bryan callen
He's got filthy.
joe rogan
Filthy in a good way.
bryan callen
I love that.
I like that expression.
joe rogan
I love it too.
bryan callen
Dude, his stand-up is filthy.
joe rogan
Filthy.
brendan schaub
Well, even when you're talking about a girl, it's like, dude, she's filthy.
That's a good thing.
I saw a Hellcat and I went, god damn, that thing's filthy.
joe rogan
Well, when you hear a girl texting about something being filthy the other day, what was it?
brendan schaub
I forget.
unidentified
I just throw filthy around.
bryan callen
If you say filthy, it gets a man's attention.
joe rogan
You're like, ooh.
bryan callen
No, bro, she's a lawyer, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, and she's filthy.
brendan schaub
My dick goes...
joe rogan
What a good kid.
bryan callen
It wakes things up.
joe rogan
My friend Jimmy D'Italio, my buddy from high school, we would always say that.
We'd see a girl, she was hot.
What a good kid.
unidentified
Look at her.
joe rogan
Her hot little miniskirt.
What a good kid.
What happened last night with that girl?
Oh, she sucked my dick.
What a good kid.
unidentified
You always say that.
Nothing better.
bryan callen
What a good kid.
joe rogan
That's a weird one.
What a good kid.
brendan schaub
Good kid's weird.
joe rogan
It's weird when you're in your 50s.
brendan schaub
It's weird when Brian goes, she's a good girl.
Well, that makes me feel weird, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's real weird, bro.
brendan schaub
She's a good girl.
bryan callen
She's a good girl.
Don't even say she.
brendan schaub
She's a good girl.
That's creepy, dude.
joe rogan
How much do you hate acting now?
Now that you're acting on two different shows.
bryan callen
I'll tell you what I love, though, is you better like the people you work with.
It's so fun to be around.
unidentified
But as far as doing a movie, it's so fun.
bryan callen
That's my new dance.
We should all do it together, but take it seriously.
But doing a film where you're doing that, all the makeup, you're in makeup for three hours.
brendan schaub
You would do that, though, B. If they called you like, hey, why don't you be that guy?
bryan callen
Look at me.
Look at me right now.
brendan schaub
Dude, watch your fucking P's and Q's.
joe rogan
You look at me at 52. Everyone in here knows you very well.
bryan callen
I called him the other day.
You look at me at 52. No, I wouldn't.
unidentified
Bullshit.
brendan schaub
They called you and said, hey, we want to do a feature film and you're going to be Robin.
joe rogan
Listen, you're going to be...
unidentified
Robin?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're going to be Robin.
You're going to be Batman.
No, you're going to be...
What's the butler's name?
unidentified
I'm...
joe rogan
What's the butler that takes care of Bruce Wayne?
Alfred.
Hey man, I'm not that fucking old, bro.
I bet you are older than Alfred was in the TV show.
bryan callen
Well, you know what?
How old was John Candy when he died?
joe rogan
This freaks me out.
He's a thousand.
bryan callen
How old was John Candy when he died?
48?
joe rogan
48. Maybe 40?
bryan callen
43 years old.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
God damn.
joe rogan
Chris Farley, 34. Dude, he was 700 pounds.
John Belushi, 34. These guys died from drugs.
John Candy just died from obesity, right?
bryan callen
But they seem much older, and now I'm 10 years older.
brendan schaub
Kurt Cobain, 27. How about the 27, Chris?
bryan callen
Amy Winehouse, 27. Jimi Hendrix, 27. Jim Morrison, 27. Janis Joplin, 27. What's your point, bro?
brendan schaub
You're healthy 52. I'm not going to die.
bryan callen
That's the point.
brendan schaub
No, you're not.
You're going to outlive me for sure.
bryan callen
Well, I don't know.
joe rogan
What is this?
Is this the Wild Whites of West Virginia?
brendan schaub
Oh, dude, it's Cops, baby.
joe rogan
Cops is still running strong.
brendan schaub
And killing it.
joe rogan
Cops might be the most successful show in the history of television.
brendan schaub
That and Simpsons, right?
joe rogan
I think Cops might be more successful.
brendan schaub
They need to remind the people that you're not going to get away with shit.
eddie bravo
They need to see that.
Because don't you grow up thinking you'll never get away with anything?
joe rogan
I see your point, but that's not why it's successful.
It's successful because it costs zero money.
unidentified
Zero.
joe rogan
They don't pay those people.
brendan schaub
Correct, it's zero.
There's no actors or no main guys?
joe rogan
Sorry, Warren Archuleta?
bryan callen
Warren Archuleta was a wrestler at Duke.
He was second in the nation, NCAAs.
A hell of a wrestler.
unidentified
Oh.
bryan callen
A beast.
Fights at 35 usually.
I think this might be 35. An outstanding fighter.
joe rogan
No shit.
bryan callen
And I think he's undefeated.
joe rogan
Well, this is a good fight then, because Bandejas is a nasty striker.
bryan callen
He's putting you on your back, no matter what.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
bryan callen
One of the best wrestlers in the country.
brendan schaub
Dude, solid fights tonight.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Super solid.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is good.
You need a cork.
bryan callen
Yeah, I need a cork.
joe rogan
Is Pico fighting tonight?
brendan schaub
You bet your sweet ass he's fighting.
unidentified
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
It's his toughest test.
And once he, if he, I think he will, if he beats this guy, I bet you see him get a title shot next.
joe rogan
Did you find out if AJ won yet?
No.
brendan schaub
Oh, here's the thing about Pico, too.
Listen to this, Rogan.
So I sat with Freddie Roach.
I did an interview with Freddie Roach.
Comes out Monday for Showtime.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Look at this.
bryan callen
Jesus, you got a back on you.
brendan schaub
This is the Gallagher knockout.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He caught that kick and he...
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
Ah, that's not even the bad knockout.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's the beginning.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that was his move.
bryan callen
Is that that Irish kid who's kind of like...
brendan schaub
Gallagher.
bryan callen
Yeah, very kind of like flamboyant?
brendan schaub
Great on the ground.
joe rogan
Very good on the ground.
He just, you know...
When he loses, the problem is he talks so much shit when he gets fucked up like he did in this fight.
brendan schaub
It's the game you play.
joe rogan
I mean, he was in the guy's face, hands up in the air, and this kid beat the shit out of him.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
He lit him up.
Oh, shit.
To the face.
Bing.
And he put him out here, too.
Doom, doom.
He was lit up from the start.
brendan schaub
Filthy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he screamed in his face, fuck you.
brendan schaub
But what I was saying is Freddie Roach said this about Aaron Pico.
He said he could be a world champion right now in boxing.
He goes, I want him to do boxing.
I go, why?
He goes, he's one of the best I've seen.
And he goes, for Miguel Cotto's camp when he was a kid, even younger, like four or five years ago, he would beat Miguel Cotto in rounds.
He goes, Miguel's not giving him shit.
He'd beat him in rounds sparring.
joe rogan
He's a ferocious kid, man.
He's very ferocious.
brendan schaub
He was the number one high school wrestler in the world.
joe rogan
He's training at that training lab with Calavita as well.
brendan schaub
And TJ. Yeah.
TJ's main training partner.
He's an animal.
Motherfucker.
And when Freddie told me that, I went, he could compete in boxing.
He goes, compete?
He'd be a world champion right now.
unidentified
Oh my God.
brendan schaub
If he let me take him right now to boxing, he'd be a world champion.
eddie bravo
What?
joe rogan
But why doesn't he do that?
Because isn't there way more money in boxing?
No, no.
eddie bravo
Isn't there zero money in boxing?
brendan schaub
Only certain guys can be.
You gotta be the top of the top.
eddie bravo
Yeah, besides Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Tyson Fury.
brendan schaub
He's a lighter guy, too, so Lomachenko's like, do what?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You wanna do what?
joe rogan
The champ of who?
eddie bravo
I mean, can boxing survive another generation?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Fuck yes, how dare you?
eddie bravo
There's no kids into boxing.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
There's kids in the ghetto.
You just live in a nice community.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
You got your Mexican privilege showing.
bryan callen
Boxing's alive and well in Russia, in Mexico, they got some...
joe rogan
In America, too, bro.
The best boxers are American.
Open one bottle at a time, bro.
What are we getting hammered here?
One bottle at a time.
brendan schaub
Why are you opening so many?
Why is this taking so long, bro?
joe rogan
What are you, an alcoholic?
bryan callen
Let it breathe, bro.
brendan schaub
Well, you'll let it breathe.
joe rogan
One at a time.
bryan callen
Hey, don't be such a...
joe rogan
I don't want an empty bottle of wine here that I gotta pour down the sink.
bryan callen
No, we'll go through this.
brendan schaub
It's his birthday.
Cal, I'm already drinking Miller Lite, bro.
Like a goddamn American.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo, no one can ever accuse you of white privilege.
eddie bravo
They try.
joe rogan
They try.
eddie bravo
How can they?
joe rogan
You show them your 23andMe.
Say what, bitch?
brendan schaub
What'd your 23andMe say?
joe rogan
100% Mexican.
brendan schaub
Wow, dude.
bryan callen
Is that true?
eddie bravo
I am 100% Mexican.
brendan schaub
I need to do it, man.
bryan callen
Did you do it, B? I did.
brendan schaub
Did you do it?
bryan callen
51% Southern Italian, the rest Western European.
Actually, I got Iberian, I got some North African.
joe rogan
I got 1.1% Asian.
eddie bravo
Oh shit, you're Asian?
unidentified
What if they're just collecting DNA? You know, here's the thing, it changes.
joe rogan
As the DNA testing gets better, you get different results in the mail every few months.
I found out that I'm a little bit Greek.
There was no Greek in there before.
Now it's showing a small amount of creep.
eddie bravo
Maybe that's proof of them just making shit up.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
When the database expands, when the database for the genome expands and they know the ancestry of these different people, it's very precise in the fact that it's only percentage points, but they're pretty fucking accurate.
brendan schaub
Did you guys all do the same one, or is it like drug testing in the UFC where USADA finds it and...
joe rogan
I did 23andMe, but there's Ancestry, there's several different ones.
brendan schaub
You did 23andMe too?
joe rogan
I did 23andMe, yeah.
eddie bravo
It's really good.
bryan callen
They told me what my earlobes looked like, how long my ring finger was, weird shit.
joe rogan
Can they tell you how big a dick is?
Imagine if they could tell you.
Off the charts!
I've seen your dick.
Where are the charts?
You don't want these charts.
I need to get on these charts.
bryan callen
You've seen them at ease.
You've never seen them 10-hut.
joe rogan
Oh, at ease.
bryan callen
Here you go, buddy.
brendan schaub
At ease, sir.
Happy birthday, brother.
bryan callen
Thank you, buddy.
brendan schaub
Everyone knows it's Callum's B-Day, yeah?
joe rogan
Happy birthday.
What are you, 29 to...
bryan callen
I'm exactly 30. I'm in the 35 to 52 area.
Here you go, buddy.
brendan schaub
Do you feel older, B? Thank you, sir.
joe rogan
Alright, don't get Eddie drunk because he becomes like a gremlin when you get water.
eddie bravo
No, no, no, no.
bryan callen
Eddie Bravo can do no wrong.
unidentified
I love Eddie Bravo.
eddie bravo
No conspiracy theories, I promise.
bryan callen
Eddie's a truly good human being, so I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
He's been my friend forever.
brendan schaub
No, we all love him.
joe rogan
Why don't you tell me that?
brendan schaub
Yeah, we all love him.
We're just saying.
eddie bravo
Cheers.
brendan schaub
I like Eddie a little buzzed.
bryan callen
Jamie, nothing?
brendan schaub
Fire up this Flat Earth shit.
joe rogan
Fight companions, motherfuckers.
eddie bravo
No Flat Earth, okay?
brendan schaub
Zero, bro.
Dude, how about MLK conspiracies, though?
I didn't mean to go down this road.
joe rogan
Oh, the Mike Baker?
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
Did you hear that?
brendan schaub
I watched Mike Baker's, and then I went down a rabbit hole on YouTube on MLK conspiracies.
joe rogan
Mike Baker from the CIA is convinced that someone helped James Earl Ray.
brendan schaub
Dude, that guy's legit as fuck.
When he said it, I went, all right, let me look into it.
joe rogan
Here's the thing.
Although I like Mike Baker, he's a great guy.
When I brought up JFK, he's like, did the CIA kill JFK? He's like, you know, with this Martin Luther King Jr. thing.
What about this?
I'm showing him the bullet.
I'm like, I know you've seen bullets hit things.
brendan schaub
He lost credibility with that.
He goes, yeah, I do believe he was able to pull that off.
And if you get up there, you can actually pull that off.
Any hunter could do that.
eddie bravo
Wrong!
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That's not exactly true.
You could do it.
It's not that far.
It's less than 100 yards.
brendan schaub
With that gun, it's a little shaky.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It's not.
brendan schaub
And the bullet, the way the bullet came in.
joe rogan
I'm telling you.
The only problem is the magic bullet theory.
Okay, here's the fight.
Here's the fight.
What is the gentleman?
bryan callen
Mike Baker seems like a very thoughtful guy.
joe rogan
What is the gentleman in the white?
bryan callen
Juan Archuleta is the guy with the bald head.
joe rogan
And he's a wrestler.
bryan callen
Yeah, high level.
brendan schaub
He's 21 and 1. Real pedigree.
joe rogan
And I think Ben Dejas, is he a saxon guy?
Oh, look at that takedown.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
bryan callen
Now, once he's on you, you're not getting him off.
Watch this.
brendan schaub
Oh, Jesus.
bryan callen
Slam.
joe rogan
Damn.
Brian Callen dropped the knowledge.
bryan callen
Well, he was on Warrior, so I spent a lot of time with him on set.
unidentified
Did he throw you around, B? There was a guy in the last UFC. I'm a really hard guy to throw around, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, shut the fuck up.
eddie bravo
Who's the guy?
Hey, Brendan, who's the guy who fought in the last UFC, fights just like Khabib?
He's a mauler.
He's got tattoos.
He's from the East Coast.
Gillespie.
Oh, Gregor.
joe rogan
Gregor Gillespie.
brendan schaub
Gillespie.
Motherfucker.
unidentified
Motherfucker.
joe rogan
He is a fucking gorilla.
brendan schaub
They need to feed that man.
eddie bravo
Damn.
What would happen if he fought Khabib?
They have the exact same style.
joe rogan
He's a very good fighter, man.
It'd be very, very interesting.
Talking about him and Kevin Lee.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight!
You gotta hit him up, though, soon, because he's fishing.
He goes away.
He doesn't do interviews and shit.
He's fishing, doing the shit.
joe rogan
He loves fishing.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Best fishing in MMA. Yeah.
brendan schaub
Grows his hair out and shaves it right before the fight.
He's a savage.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love that, too.
brendan schaub
Me, too.
He's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
It's a beast.
unidentified
Oh, oh, oh!
eddie bravo
Dude, how about MVP versus Daily coming out?
brendan schaub
How about it's in Connecticut?
How dare you, Scott Kogan?
unidentified
Is that?
Yeah.
joe rogan
That fight's in Connecticut?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Why not do that in England?
Everyone fucking loves us doing England.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know.
That doesn't make any sense.
Why do they do that?
eddie bravo
The problem is such a big fight, you do it in England, the time zones are all fucked up.
joe rogan
No, the problem is riots.
The problem is riots.
Those fucking soccer hooligans.
They're going to go crazy and rush the stands.
eddie bravo
I think it's the time zone.
bryan callen
Oh shit, look at this.
Watch Archuleta.
joe rogan
Watch Archuleta move.
eddie bravo
The UFCs in England are some of the lowest rated events.
brendan schaub
They kill it in England, though.
joe rogan
Benday has just tagged him.
brendan schaub
It's about the United States.
joe rogan
Dude, Benday has just tagged your boy with a right hand.
bryan callen
Not true.
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
He just clipped him as he's trying to close the distance.
bryan callen
Confirmation bias, I'm not going to see that.
unidentified
How dare you?
joe rogan
I have no confirmation bias.
bryan callen
Listen, bro.
joe rogan
I'm not attached to this guy, other than the fact that we've been friends on Instagram.
brendan schaub
Well, I am.
unidentified
Isn't it weird when a guy slides in your DM? They're like, ah, fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
I sent him one, bro.
joe rogan
I sent him one saying that was a great fight.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, nice jumping front kick to the body.
unidentified
And I know Juan, so no matter what, I'm rooting for him.
eddie bravo
I'm Instagram friends with Immortal Technique now.
joe rogan
I love that dude.
eddie bravo
That was a recent thing.
I'm like fanboying out.
joe rogan
He's a good guy, man.
You never met him?
eddie bravo
Never met him.
joe rogan
I'll introduce you.
Next time he's in LA, I'll try to kiss him.
brendan schaub
Who is that?
Matt Brown?
joe rogan
Immortal Technique.
brendan schaub
Who's that?
joe rogan
He's a rapper.
Bad motherfucker.
Very, very good dude.
eddie bravo
We're talking about doing a song together.
brendan schaub
What's his real name?
What's his rap name?
unidentified
Who cares?
eddie bravo
Immortal Technique.
joe rogan
Just call him Immortal Technique.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
I told you!
eddie bravo
Conspiracy theory rapper.
bryan callen
Nah, he slipped that.
joe rogan
Oh, let's tell everybody what time it is on the clock.
It's 2.03, 2.02, 2.01, 2. Two minutes, and this is the first round if you want to sync it up, but you probably can't.
bryan callen
Dropping level.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
I like that beard, though.
bryan callen
Me too.
Moving around.
I like the way he's moving.
joe rogan
He said fuck the hood, too, huh?
He's going wild.
He's very kinetic.
He's making these big leaping movements, and he's doing it in the first round.
If he tries his shit in the second and the third...
Like, he's going to get tired.
The movements are slower and more pronounced.
brendan schaub
He'll start wrestling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's going to have to because he's not that good at closing the distance with his striking.
His striking is these big movements.
See that?
These are these big movements.
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
Holy shit!
joe rogan
Boy, you got kicked in the face, Brian.
If he can time these big movements and pause.
eddie bravo
He's hurt.
joe rogan
He's hurt bad.
He got hurt earlier, too.
He got clipped with the right hand.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
joe rogan
And now there's a takedown.
brendan schaub
Oh, guillotine.
joe rogan
Stuffed.
Stop.
Push that left hand off.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, your boy's tired, B. See, that's what I'm saying.
brendan schaub
He's losing his fight like he's losing his hair.
joe rogan
He's already lost his hair, but he's still in the fight.
Oh!
Clipped him with the left hand there, too.
Ben Diaz is no joke, man.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you.
Did you want Ben against Brian's guy?
unidentified
I wanted to lose because Brian's guys are all against me.
eddie bravo
Once I shave my head...
joe rogan
You know what?
bryan callen
Arceleta's playing turtle right now and he's just decoying right now.
brendan schaub
Looks like a turtle flurry.
eddie bravo
I'm thinking about growing a beard once I shave my head.
brendan schaub
Dude, that'd be fucking sick, bro.
joe rogan
Eddie, you've got a great head of hair.
Break it down to a crew cut.
bryan callen
What's this hair thing, man?
You've got great hair, bro.
joe rogan
Stop.
Let him shave it.
No, don't do it.
I'm trying to get everybody on my side.
bryan callen
I know.
Joe wants everybody to be in the fucking hairless.
The hairless misery club.
joe rogan
No, let me tell you something, man.
This is why.
Because I think people that take Propecia and stuff, I think you're fucking your body up with that stuff.
bryan callen
I take it.
eddie bravo
I don't take that.
joe rogan
I think that stuff's terrible for you.
eddie bravo
Why?
I used to alone.
I stopped like 10 years ago.
bryan callen
Why do you think it's bad?
brendan schaub
Because it caused depression in Ari.
joe rogan
It caused depression.
brendan schaub
Well, Ari already had depression.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He did not.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
He did not.
You think it was just from Propecia?
unidentified
Take down.
There you go.
joe rogan
Nice take down.
bryan callen
Everybody shut up.
joe rogan
Back up to his feet.
The boy's exhausted now.
bryan callen
No, he's not.
joe rogan
Wasted effort.
Yes, he is.
He's probably on Propecia, too.
eddie bravo
You see that take down?
bryan callen
There you go.
eddie bravo
That Joe Benavidez did like two or three times in his last fight.
He sticks that leg.
That is super legit.
joe rogan
Henzo does that a lot.
eddie bravo
That's huge.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Henzo did that in his last MMA fight.
brendan schaub
God, I'm sick of this big bitch.
unidentified
We're going to get deep into that one.
eddie bravo
You're sick of who?
joe rogan
I record a commercial.
Oh, that's not right.
brendan schaub
She does the same movie every time?
eddie bravo
What's her name?
brendan schaub
I forget.
bryan callen
Something like that.
unidentified
Just be nice.
joe rogan
Be nice.
brendan schaub
I am, dude.
joe rogan
She's nice.
unidentified
Whoa.
brendan schaub
No, she's a good actress.
bryan callen
What's her name?
brendan schaub
She's filthy, bro.
What were we talking about?
Oh, Propecia.
You don't think that he already kind of had a touch of the dog?
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
brendan schaub
You're just going to chalk it all to Propecia?
unidentified
No, listen.
joe rogan
It's one of the side effects.
One of the side effects is severe depression.
bryan callen
What?
Propecia?
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Brian's driving.
joe rogan
Propecia is a DHT inhibitor.
The reason why it works to keep your body from losing its hair is because dihydrotestosterone, which is a derivative of testosterone, is suppressed by Propecia.
Propecia was originally Proscar, and Proscar was something they used for people with prostate enlargement.
So, you get on that stuff, it inhibits DHT, so your hair stops falling out, and it grows back a little bit.
But it also fucks with your body, your energy levels.
Dude, for me...
brendan schaub
For some people, right?
joe rogan
Yes, for me.
For me, it wasn't very good for my boners.
I still got them, but this is what happened.
I stopped taking it because I ran out of it, and I forgot to get a new prescription.
brendan schaub
I know how that goes.
joe rogan
And my dick was...
It was just like this.
And I was like, what is happening with my dick?
And then I realized, oh my god, I'm not on the Propecia.
And then I realized Propecia was fucking up my boners.
bryan callen
A cat could not, would blunt his claw on my dick right now.
joe rogan
Let me keep going right now.
So then I got off of it, and the first thing I noticed is how much more energy I had.
unidentified
Weird.
joe rogan
Yes.
More energy, like lifting.
I could lift more.
I had more energy to roll.
brendan schaub
I had more energy for everything.
I've heard that, and then obviously Callen's throwing up.
And my brother, too.
Jay's like, Jay is fucking...
Full set of hair now.
joe rogan
He was losing it?
He got it back?
brendan schaub
He was losing it, yeah, and it's thick as shit, and it's a huge dick.
bryan callen
That kid has got a...
His dick ruined my day.
joe rogan
What's it taste like?
brendan schaub
It's my brother, too.
joe rogan
I like to sneak it in there.
I saw his dick...
unidentified
Shout out to Jay's dick.
joe rogan
Your boy's getting fucked up, right?
He's tired, dude.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's so exhausted.
bryan callen
Although I am worried about the knee.
He's kind of...
brendan schaub
He's leading with his chin?
bryan callen
No, he's coming in with his head and that's...
joe rogan
Well, he's tired.
He's making these big movements.
He has to make big moves to get in because he's not a kicker and because he's not a really good striker, so he's far on the outside.
So he's got to close 18, 20 inches before he makes his run.
Oh, he got poked in the eye.
He got poked.
brendan schaub
Oh, now he's really fucked.
unidentified
Yeah, he's fucked.
brendan schaub
One eye, Kellen?
joe rogan
One eye, tired, can't see.
Oh!
See, look at that kick.
brendan schaub
Oh, now you've got to wrestle on his back.
joe rogan
That's why he's on the outside.
He got ragdolled to the ground.
bryan callen
No, that's not true.
joe rogan
He'll never throw that kick again.
That'll be in the back of his head for the rest of his life.
Every time he throws that bitch-ass kick.
bryan callen
Oh, look at that, dude!
He's just setting him up.
There you go!
What happened now, Joe?
brendan schaub
I don't know why he doesn't use more of this.
joe rogan
Your boy's going to get tired.
bryan callen
Nah, take a seat.
joe rogan
He didn't do shit in the first round.
He's tired.
bryan callen
It's time to take a seat.
Watch this.
joe rogan
You want to bet on this fight?
bryan callen
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
Okay, how much?
I'll bet you a whole dollar.
bryan callen
One fucking million dollars.
joe rogan
Wow, you actually have a million dollars now.
bryan callen
I do.
joe rogan
So that's interesting.
bryan callen
I do.
Although the internet, if you look at my net worth, I think it says I'm worth 200 grand and there's a picture of Brandon Shaw.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
For me too, my network was a picture of Brandon Shaw.
brendan schaub
What the fuck is wrong with people?
joe rogan
Somebody's fun.
brendan schaub
What's wrong with people?
joe rogan
Well, it said Brian and I were brothers on Wikipedia for like 10 years.
bryan callen
Yep, yep.
Everybody would say that.
Pauly Shore thought you were brothers for a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody did.
Well, it makes sense.
brendan schaub
Dude, that picture that Brian posted of you guys in the early 90s?
joe rogan
Hilarious.
brendan schaub
Dude, you had some swag, dude.
bryan callen
Good looking kid.
brendan schaub
Drip, right, Jamie?
I was like, God damn, that's the first thing I noticed.
I went, look at Rogan's fucking fashion.
You guys must have dig down everybody.
joe rogan
I wore shiny clothes back then.
brendan schaub
That was like 95. That's why you and I get along, bro.
bryan callen
He was a cutie pie.
brendan schaub
I knew it.
bryan callen
He was a good looking kid.
He was a cutie pie, and girls liked him.
brendan schaub
Look at that shit.
bryan callen
Yeah, man.
brendan schaub
That Liberace front with the fucking leather jacket.
Those biker jackets are still in.
joe rogan
I still have that jacket, and I'm not lying.
bryan callen
He was very muscular.
eddie bravo
It looks like you guys just got busted, jerking cattle off right there.
joe rogan
No, like a girl just pulled her dick out.
bryan callen
And by the way, you had never smoked weed.
You had never done any drugs.
People were like, oh, well, the cocaine.
No, we didn't do...
I'd never done blood.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had a little bit of booze.
Our drug of choice was...
unidentified
Who's that?
joe rogan
Brian, you look 16. I think I was 28, 29. Yeah, I think I was 27 there, dude.
Yeah, I was 27, you were 28. If I had a time...
Oh, your boy just cracked Ben Deos with a right hand.
bryan callen
That's right, dude.
joe rogan
Don't ever fucking forget about it.
Yeah, but he throws that bitch-ass kick again.
He gets taken down.
bryan callen
Dude, he's just buttering him up.
brendan schaub
Ooh, Mitrion versus Garitanov is a good one.
joe rogan
Someone needs to take that guy to Duke Rufus' place.
Teach him how to throw a kick.
brendan schaub
Dude, Belto's doing that back-to-back fights again, huh?
You got Mitrion, Kiritanov.
joe rogan
When is the next fight?
brendan schaub
February 15th.
The next night's MVP versus Daily.
It must be working.
joe rogan
Do you guys want to go to Phoenix to see Kane fight Ngannou?
You want to just fucking get on a fight?
brendan schaub
When is that?
bryan callen
When?
joe rogan
It's like...
brendan schaub
It's a Sunday.
joe rogan
It's a Sunday.
bryan callen
I could do it.
joe rogan
I'm thinking about just fucking flying to Phoenix.
I never go to a live USC as a fan, but I want to see Kane versus Ngannou.
brendan schaub
That'd be fun.
You think they'll let me in the arena, though?
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
You don't think someone's going to snipe me out?
joe rogan
Who's going to snipe you out?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Come with me.
joe rogan
Come with me.
The four of us.
The four of us go live.
We'll put fucking Snapchat cameras on our eyeglasses.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is the date?
That's a great fight.
It's a Sunday night.
It's the 17th.
brendan schaub
Let me check if you're free, Callan.
Yep, you're free.
joe rogan
I think I might be.
Are you down for that?
Would you want to do that?
unidentified
I'd do it.
bryan callen
I'd do it.
joe rogan
Take a private jet.
bryan callen
As long as it's not this weekend where I'm in Austin.
brendan schaub
Sounds like we're talking Eddie into a murder.
joe rogan
What was that?
brendan schaub
You seem stressed about it.
bryan callen
Oh, look at this.
Boy, your DM buddy has got good takedown defense.
joe rogan
Yes, he does.
Because he knew he was fighting a wrestler, bro.
eddie bravo
Oh!
bryan callen
Blocked.
joe rogan
Blocked second round, two rounds in the book for Bandejas.
brendan schaub
Dude, Francis Kane's an epic fight.
joe rogan
It's an epic fight.
Not really.
bryan callen
How about this?
Not even a little bit epic.
Here's why.
Why?
Because Mr. Ngannou, all due respect, great athlete, amazing guy.
brendan schaub
Kane's been off for two years.
bryan callen
Okay, once again.
joe rogan
Kane's had 150 surgeries.
bryan callen
You want me to tell you how it goes?
joe rogan
He's 37 years old.
brendan schaub
Cool.
He has a fake skull.
bryan callen
You want to know how it goes?
Ready?
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
Single leg, lower single leg.
bryan callen
Kane takes him down and then punches him in the face until it's over.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
He might not.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It could be like JDS. I think Kane gets an underhand.
eddie bravo
I hate to agree with Brian, but yes.
unidentified
It was the only time we've ever agreed on anything.
brendan schaub
It's true.
bryan callen
What does Zingano do against that wrestling?
brendan schaub
We can knock him out like JDS did.
I think Kane wins.
I think Kane...
But I don't think he gets a single leg and just takes him down.
I think he controls him against him.
bryan callen
Zingano is fucking JDS part two.
joe rogan
And Gano is fucking dangerous.
brendan schaub
Unless you have cardio.
eddie bravo
But he's shown something.
joe rogan
That fight, he didn't know what the fuck he was doing.
brendan schaub
Which one?
joe rogan
Well, the Stipe fight.
He thought he was going to win that fight by KO. He thought he was just going to go out there and KO him.
brendan schaub
He did land good shots on Stipe, too.
joe rogan
Well, he fucked up Curtis Blades in that second fight, and Curtis Blades is a good wrestler.
bryan callen
Look, Ngannou's a beast.
eddie bravo
What would be more fun?
joe rogan
He fucked up Curtis Blades in that second fight.
You gotta remember, he just fucked up Curtis Blades.
brendan schaub
I totally forgot about that.
joe rogan
I didn't forget about it.
That's why I went for the UFC, and you're gonna have a hard time getting in the arena.
unidentified
Wouldn't it be way funner just to do a fight companion?
bryan callen
Hey guys, there's a fight going on.
joe rogan
It would be fun to do a fight companion, but all I was thinking...
unidentified
You're gonna be taking five million pictures.
joe rogan
A party.
Have a good time.
bryan callen
Uh-oh, uh-oh, goodbye.
eddie bravo
We're all married, man.
joe rogan
No, your boy's not going to take him down.
He hasn't taken him down yet.
This is the third round, dude.
It's not happening.
He needs to let that go and learn how to kick with that left leg.
bryan callen
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's going to pummel under with that left hand.
He's going to get it.
And when he gets it, he's going to circle off.
And when he circles off, your boy's going to be more tired.
That's why I'm a commentator.
And you're an actor.
You're an actor.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
There's the knee side!
brendan schaub
Your boy got fucked!
bryan callen
You've got to watch that knee.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's fucked up.
joe rogan
That knee was perfect.
What did his right leg just do there?
bryan callen
Archuleta's a wrestler.
He's fine.
joe rogan
Oh, he's in a world of shit.
brendan schaub
They don't get kneed in wrestling.
joe rogan
He's in a world of shit.
Your boy's in a lot of trouble, dude.
Be honest.
Be honest.
bryan callen
If you didn't know him.
I was a terrible kid.
joe rogan
He tried something and bailed on it halfway in.
bryan callen
You know your boy's losing the fight.
You know that.
We understand that.
brendan schaub
He might not come out, bro.
bryan callen
Is that what Hunter said?
unidentified
Oh, look at this!
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Look at the aggressions!
Yeah, what?
How long is it going to be before he gets back up to his feet?
That doesn't even count, dude.
bryan callen
TJ's right there.
TJ's giving him Joe Daddy.
They're talking to him.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are they saying?
bryan callen
I'll text both of them right now.
joe rogan
They're saying, you need to stop him.
bryan callen
No, they're going, yeah, we got this.
brendan schaub
Dude, he has Cub Swanson, TJ Dillashaw, and Joe Daddy Simpson in his corner.
bryan callen
That's a hell of a corner.
brendan schaub
Is it the best ever?
joe rogan
That's a hell of a corner.
Pretty goddamn good corner.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your boy's aggressive, I'll tell you that.
bryan callen
Yeah, he is.
joe rogan
He's not letting go.
bryan callen
No.
Dude, I told you.
joe rogan
I think Bendejas is winning, though.
bryan callen
Bendejas is losing.
brendan schaub
He's landed way better shots.
joe rogan
I'm collecting a dollar at the end of this fight.
Not a shot.
bryan callen
Oh, look at this.
Look at this.
Start tapping.
brendan schaub
Archuleta's probably winning the fight, Joe.
Just from control.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
Just from control.
joe rogan
Nonsense.
bryan callen
We know this.
We know this.
joe rogan
I DM this guy.
You guys are out of your mind.
bryan callen
Oh my god.
It's my birthday.
I get what I want.
joe rogan
It would be kind of fun to do a fight companion.
That might be better.
brendan schaub
They're the best.
And we never get to really do them for big UFCs.
joe rogan
And we don't have to go anywhere.
brendan schaub
We don't get to do them.
We get fucked up here.
joe rogan
But legit, once I quit the UFC, we should travel one or two in Vegas.
brendan schaub
And do live companions?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
What if they would let us?
Well, I don't know if they'll let me.
But from like a dope fucking sweet.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
But you want to be on the floor, man.
bryan callen
Yeah, I like your food truck thing.
It's pretty good.
brendan schaub
Thank you, sir.
bryan callen
With Bader.
joe rogan
Dude, I got so hungry looking at those steak and cheese.
So did I. I texted Brendan immediately.
eddie bravo
Fuck.
brendan schaub
They were so good, dude.
joe rogan
Must have.
brendan schaub
And I'm doing a lobster roll one.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
There's a place called, fuck, I think it's Maine Lops or something like that.
They are the best lobster.
joe rogan
I've had that.
brendan schaub
Cousins, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've had that.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They are phenomenal.
Callan, I bought you one.
Remember that fucking roll?
The best lobster roll in the world.
bryan callen
It's like $15 and you don't care.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck.
bryan callen
So good.
brendan schaub
I buy four of them.
joe rogan
Brian, you're worth $200,000 according to Celebrity Net Worth.
bryan callen
I know, so what's that?
joe rogan
Come on, your boy's getting fucked up.
You know he's getting fucked up.
bryan callen
He snatched his ankle.
joe rogan
This is a disaster.
bryan callen
Look at this.
Watch this.
Just keep your hand up.
Look at him toying with him.
Toying like a cat and a mouse.
Hitting there.
Fucking your DMs mean nothing.
brendan schaub
Dude, you know what else we should do companions for?
Big-ass boxing fights, too.
Like Fury Wilder 2. I might be working it, but like Fury Wilder 2. Whatever you're not working, let's do one.
bryan callen
And my TV show, guys.
brendan schaub
Oh, that'd be so much fun.
unidentified
Hey, did you guys...
joe rogan
No, we're not doing that.
Do you see Broner versus Pacquiao and then Broner afterwards saying that he beat that guy?
brendan schaub
Well, we watched it in the back of my taping.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I watched the whole fight afterwards.
brendan schaub
Me too.
On Sunday.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with him?
brendan schaub
Did he beat the shit out of him forever?
joe rogan
No, he just beat him.
What's that?
bryan callen
That Roar movie.
joe rogan
Oh, you got it?
unidentified
I downloaded it a long time ago.
joe rogan
Oh, that crazy movie with the fucking lions?
brendan schaub
Who's the goat man?
joe rogan
It's a guy who trained lions and did a whole movie with real lions where they wrestled them and shit and they had the lions like played actors in the movie.
eddie bravo
Did someone die?
joe rogan
People got fucked up making the movie.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Well, they're giant cats, man.
brendan schaub
Is this the worst movie of all time?
joe rogan
It's a pretty bad movie, but it's like super dangerous because they taunted the lions to get them to do shit in the scenes.
bryan callen
What?
brendan schaub
These actors definitely get paid enough.
joe rogan
How many people died during the making of that movie?
unidentified
17. I think a few.
bryan callen
People actually died?
joe rogan
Your boy got sidekicked in the body.
eddie bravo
People died.
brendan schaub
He's winning this one.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that.
bryan callen
What?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
unidentified
He missed.
bryan callen
That's capoeira, bro.
unidentified
Oh!
bryan callen
Not enough capoeira.
joe rogan
Stand there right there.
bryan callen
Look at this.
joe rogan
That's it.
That's the third round.
brendan schaub
Archuleta probably won, dude.
Archuleta, yeah.
100%.
joe rogan
Almost inside.
That guy's a stud.
bryan callen
In his debut, too.
joe rogan
Took some hard shots.
brendan schaub
Well, he's 21-1.
joe rogan
Is that his debut?
brendan schaub
No, he's 21-1.
Not in Bellator, but...
bryan callen
Probably his first fight in Bellator.
brendan schaub
What's he been fighting yet?
joe rogan
Why are you saying this is his debut, Brian?
bryan callen
I think in...
I don't know.
He wasn't fighting in Bellator for...
I think this is one of his...
brendan schaub
What's he been fighting in, Jamie?
I mean, 21-1.
Get in there, bro.
Jack Swagger has zero experience.
He's fighting in the middle.
jamie vernon
Fourth fight in Bellator.
brendan schaub
God damn it, Brian.
Trying to hype the guy up.
bryan callen
Just throwing shit on the wall.
Just let me throw some stuff on the wall.
joe rogan
I thought you were friends with him.
bryan callen
He's my buddy.
brendan schaub
Dude, you were on set one time.
bryan callen
I did a bunch of episodes of Kingdom.
joe rogan
Does anybody want any of this whiskey?
brendan schaub
I'm thinking Warrior.
joe rogan
Does anybody else want any of this whiskey?
brendan schaub
I don't do well in whiskey.
You think he turns into a demon.
eddie bravo
Indian will come out.
brendan schaub
I'll shit my pants.
bryan callen
What is our rating of this wine?
Is it just okay?
brendan schaub
You know, I haven't tried it.
joe rogan
Is it okay to mix it?
bryan callen
I'm not too happy with it.
joe rogan
Almost corked.
bryan callen
Yeah, let's try the other bottle.
I'm not too happy with this, those fuckers.
This cost me a lot of money.
brendan schaub
Do you want to be great with this?
Cheese, B. Cheese.
joe rogan
I got some old cheese in the fridge.
bryan callen
Bastards.
unidentified
I forgot the cheese.
joe rogan
Is there anything less attractive than old cheese?
brendan schaub
I just pretend I didn't hear it.
bryan callen
Old cheese actually holds.
If there is, it'll be fine.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
My refrigerator?
brendan schaub
Old cheese?
joe rogan
Old cheese sitting next to a block of elk.
brendan schaub
I would fuck those ribs up.
eddie bravo
How about government cheese?
What the fuck was up with that?
joe rogan
At school?
brendan schaub
At school, they'd give you the government cheese?
eddie bravo
They would give you a big block, like a loaf, and you'd go, boom!
We got government cheese.
joe rogan
Were you ever on food stamps?
eddie bravo
What the fuck did they put in that cheese?
joe rogan
Well, it's just shitty cheese.
Did you ever get food stamps when you were a kid?
eddie bravo
Believe it or not, my mom qualified for one month.
She made too much money.
She made like 200 bucks, 150 bucks a week.
But we did get it.
I'll never forget.
We got one for one month.
We got food stamps and we went to the supermarket.
We went to Vons on Bristol.
I'll never forget this because my mom said...
Get anything you fucking want.
unidentified
Wow.
eddie bravo
Because she knew it was going to be her last one.
So we just went straight to the cereal aisle.
And generally my mom would get us like toasty oats, like a big sack.
Because she knew if she brought like Cocoa Pebbles, that shit would be gone in like 15 minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So she would always get us like the worst cereal just so it could last.
eddie bravo
You know, so but that time she...
brendan schaub
What'd you get Lucky Charms?
eddie bravo
Everything.
joe rogan
What did kids do before there was sugar and cereal?
eddie bravo
Fruity Pebbles.
Cookie Crisp.
joe rogan
Honeycomb!
bryan callen
My chef made me a crab.
joe rogan
Count Chocula.
Alright, who won?
Who won?
Let's say yes.
Do you have a dollar ready?
Do you have a dollar ready for me?
bryan callen
Yeah, dude.
There's no shot your boy won.
He got taken down over and over.
brendan schaub
Not really.
joe rogan
He didn't control it.
brendan schaub
But I think he controlled the octagon enough.
Your boy landed better shots.
joe rogan
He won.
You win.
brendan schaub
What was the score?
Do we know?
Doesn't matter.
bryan callen
It was like 100 to zero.
joe rogan
Here's a dollar.
Here you go.
bryan callen
That's a better fucking one.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at Frank Trigg was the ref.
Did you notice that?
joe rogan
No.
I try not to.
brendan schaub
Dude!
I don't want to do it to him.
bryan callen
What were you going to do?
unidentified
That was good.
brendan schaub
I caught myself.
bryan callen
The better angels of your nature.
brendan schaub
I'm getting better.
joe rogan
Getting better at this.
brendan schaub
It's like a demon inside of me.
joe rogan
I just want to blurt it out.
bryan callen
17 fight win streak, dude.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
bryan callen
Wrestlers, man.
Was that 35 or 45?
brendan schaub
Handsome young fella.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
I think he's 45. I might be wrong, though.
brendan schaub
Yeah, 45, right?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is he 45?
brendan schaub
Pretty sure.
joe rogan
It's hard to tell.
bryan callen
I'll tell you what, though.
Your boy is game and hell of a fighter.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a hell of a fighter.
bryan callen
Fuck.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
If there's one...
Ooh, that nice head kick right there that he ate.
If there's one skill that a fighter should have, it is wrestling.
Yep.
Goddamn.
If you could dictate where the fight takes place...
brendan schaub
It's everything.
joe rogan
That is so giant.
unidentified
It's everything these days.
joe rogan
They keep showing him getting lit up.
eddie bravo
Brendan, I know you're against kicking to the knee.
joe rogan
What about stomping to the foot?
eddie bravo
Like foot stomps.
brendan schaub
It's a bitch move.
I remember when guys would do it, you'd be like, come on.
It's like bro code.
You're like, what the fuck are you doing?
We're stomping feet?
What kind of bitch stomps a foot?
What are you doing, bro?
It's obviously not going to affect the fight.
It's just a bitch move.
eddie bravo
It doesn't affect the fight?
brendan schaub
Not really.
You can't feel it.
You're so amped up.
Now, afterwards, your foot's fucked.
But during the fight, you're like, what are you doing, dude?
joe rogan
Can you break a foot?
You think you can break a foot?
brendan schaub
Maybe if you're fucking Bigfoot Silva and you stomped someone's foot.
eddie bravo
Marco Huas used to do that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You're so hard.
I'm sure if you were a real bitch, you could do it.
If you practiced it, it's a bitch move.
joe rogan
What if you broke someone's foot?
If we stomped down their foot and snapped their metacarsal?
brendan schaub
Okay, you won by foot stomp.
Congrats.
unidentified
Wow.
eddie bravo
Damn.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Brian knows what I'm talking about.
bryan callen
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I don't fucking ever stomp feet when I fight.
unidentified
Ever.
Ever.
brendan schaub
You notice most people don't.
Most guys don't.
joe rogan
John Wick used it in the bathhouse scene.
Stomped the dude's foot and shot him in the chest.
bryan callen
Fitch and McDonald.
When is that going to happen?
joe rogan
That's for the title.
That's how quick Fitch gets a shot at the title.
brendan schaub
Well, it's because it's the welterweight tournament, so anyone who fights Roy gets a shot at the title.
It's pretty dope.
joe rogan
Yeah, he wrestled fuck Paul Daly, and then he's immediately getting a shot at the title.
brendan schaub
It's a good fight.
joe rogan
It is a shot.
bryan callen
Great wrestler.
joe rogan
It is an interesting fight, and especially if...
I like it in Bellator, because they're a little more lenient in their substance detection.
brendan schaub
Oh, don't get me started.
bryan callen
Sir?
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
Excuse me, sir?
joe rogan
Yes.
What are you trying to say?
Well, Fitch tested positive before.
brendan schaub
No one gives a fuck about who Pete goes in Bellator.
bryan callen
Roy McDonald looks like he works at Google right there.
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
He works in a murdering department at Google.
dude he's there somebody like leaks out some trade secrets I know.
He shows up at your house with a fucking metal pencil and shoves it through your forehead.
bryan callen
He looks like a guy who's in shape, but he works.
He's an engineer.
eddie bravo
He looks exactly like the guy who plays the Riddler in Gotham.
Exactly.
brendan schaub
No, he's the Canadian psycho.
eddie bravo
Have you seen that?
unidentified
He's the Canadian psycho.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
The thing at the end of the day about Rory is as much as you see his glasses, his preppy shirt, you look in his eyes and you go, yeah, I'm good.
unidentified
You get it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm all set.
brendan schaub
I'm all set with this guy.
joe rogan
I'm just going to go over here.
I'm not going to argue with you, sir.
bryan callen
I asked him about that on the podcast a long time ago.
Look at that.
eddie bravo
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
bryan callen
Good call.
eddie bravo
That's a crazy call.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's crazy!
brendan schaub
Virtually identical.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
eddie bravo
In every angle.
It's not just certain angles.
It's every angle.
Dude, they're twins.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Look at him on TV and look at Rory.
That is crazy.
brendan schaub
And Rory hates this shit.
Because I told him he should go by Canadian Psycho and he did not.
eddie bravo
Look at that right there.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
That's impressive.
brendan schaub
Dude, Fitch is a thick dude.
joe rogan
Fish is a fucking savage, but he's been in the game a long, long time.
brendan schaub
At Welterweight, there's an argument.
He's one of the top, I mean, top six of all time.
joe rogan
He didn't lose.
Look at his record.
brendan schaub
They fucked him over.
joe rogan
GSP fucked him up.
I mean, Hendricks, Johnny Hendricks fucked him up.
He's a very, very tough guy.
brendan schaub
Dude, he went on a fucking streak for a long time.
joe rogan
He's an animal.
No doubt about it.
Animal.
brendan schaub
Tough guy.
Yeah, my boy Jake Hager, also known as Jack Swagger, y'all.
joe rogan
He beat Eric Silva when Eric Silva was not under the care of USADA. How big is that guy?
bryan callen
Is he bending?
Is he not able to fit in that room?
brendan schaub
He's taller than me.
joe rogan
He's a giant dude.
brendan schaub
They say 6'7", that's bullshit.
He's 6'5", and he wrestled at Oklahoma, and he beat Kane twice.
bryan callen
That looks like Alice in Wonderland.
unidentified
In overtime.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
They're getting him to fight a guy who makes meatball subs for a living.
brendan schaub
Meatball subs?
Oh my god.
bryan callen
Oh boy.
eddie bravo
I like that right hand.
That one right there?
brendan schaub
Dude, I like his shoulders.
joe rogan
I like the chicken and waffles Roscoe's in the background representing.
brendan schaub
Dude, that guy's about to get...
joe rogan
When was the last time he ate at Roscoe's?
eddie bravo
Dude, when I was in Vegas for Fight Week when Tony fought Anthony Pettis, they got this chicken and waffle place.
I forget what it's called, but it's a chain.
unidentified
Dude, I eat chicken and waffles every fucking day, dude.
brendan schaub
It's a delicious combo.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ, I forget the name of it, but it's a chain.
joe rogan
It's a good way to get fat.
brendan schaub
Dude, I heard Max always in Dublin right now.
unidentified
Did you see that?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was hilarious.
brendan schaub
Vacation?
joe rogan
He did a whole thing, a series of posts from a whiskey place, talking about how great this whiskey is, the best whiskey in Ireland.
brendan schaub
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
And people are like, he's throwing shade, he's throwing shade.
unidentified
I love that.
joe rogan
How is he throwing shade?
They paid him.
They paid him to go out there.
He's the fucking featherweight champion of the planet Earth.
brendan schaub
Superstar.
joe rogan
He goes out there, they paid him, but they paid him to go to Dublin.
unidentified
Whoever did that, they made him a bottle with his name on it.
brendan schaub
Who did that?
joe rogan
The whiskey company.
They made a bottle for him.
brendan schaub
Jameson?
Oh, dude, what a classic move!
joe rogan
Classic move!
Fuck your proper whiskey!
brendan schaub
Check this out!
joe rogan
Wow!
Champ Champ what?
brendan schaub
I'm a fan of proper whiskey, however...
joe rogan
Have you tried it?
brendan schaub
I'm not a whiskey guy.
joe rogan
Why don't you try some Buffalo Trace, motherfuckers?
brendan schaub
I don't know good whiskey.
That could be piss.
bryan callen
Is that a good whiskey?
joe rogan
Oh, it's very good.
brendan schaub
Really?
I'll try it.
joe rogan
Is that on rocks?
Hold up.
brendan schaub
Hold up.
joe rogan
You ready for this?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
This company was established in 1773. It's not an ad right now.
It is an ad.
brendan schaub
Oh, it is?
joe rogan
At the beginning of the podcast, it's an ad.
Hold on.
This is legitimate.
bryan callen
I like a good whiskey.
joe rogan
They've been around since the 1700s.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Where's your fucking glass?
I don't have one, apparently.
brendan schaub
Brian, you scared.
bryan callen
No, I understand.
brendan schaub
Let your birthday get fucked up.
bryan callen
No, I got my wrap party later.
brendan schaub
Wrap these nuts in your mouth.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
brendan schaub
I would eat the wrap party.
This is the wrap party, bro.
bryan callen
I wrapped my TV show.
brendan schaub
I'll just have a sip of his.
unidentified
Cheers.
brendan schaub
I'll have a sip of Brian's.
You don't want to waste it.
bryan callen
First shot I've ever done that got good rating.
unidentified
Try it.
joe rogan
Tell me what's up.
What's up?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
bryan callen
That's beautiful.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
bryan callen
That's a beautiful whiskey.
joe rogan
That's real.
What is that called?
Buffalo Trace.
bryan callen
That's a beautiful whiskey.
joe rogan
No bullshit.
This shit's really been around since the 1700s.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Smooth whiskey.
What did I say?
The oldest running whiskey in the country?
Yeah.
Oldest running distillery on the planet Earth.
bryan callen
That's a smooth whiskey.
It's real shit, bro.
I love a good whiskey.
joe rogan
That's real shit.
bryan callen
I like Blanton's.
I like that.
I like Nika Coffee Grain.
unidentified
Oof.
brendan schaub
I don't like whiskey, and that is smooth as fuck.
bryan callen
Smooth as fuck.
You know what?
brendan schaub
It's earthy caramel.
bryan callen
Correct, sir.
brendan schaub
Earthy?
bryan callen
You got some earth and some caramel on it.
joe rogan
That's weird with people with wines.
Oh, it's got tannins.
brendan schaub
Hey, I just said that because I heard Calum say it before.
bryan callen
How about this?
brendan schaub
It's not earthy.
I don't know what earth tastes like.
bryan callen
I'm with my buddy who made a lot of money.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Conversations.
bryan callen
I go to my buddy, and my buddy made a lot of money.
Whatever you think is a lot, he made more.
We go to the vault, and the sommelier is there.
And he's looking at wines that are, you know, $700, something crazy.
So we're going to get a crazy wine, eat a bunch of caviar.
And he goes, and she said, how would you describe this?
I've never had this, but I've had the sister wine.
And she said, it's like getting roundhouse kicked in the face by a ballerina.
brendan schaub
The chick said this?
bryan callen
That's really how you can describe this wine?
It tells me nothing.
brendan schaub
Was it nice?
joe rogan
That makes me think you're an asshole.
brendan schaub
Dude, I don't have a drink.
This might be my fucking drink.
joe rogan
If a ballerina roundhouse kicks me in the face, I'm like, I'm hanging around with the wrong girl.
I gotta get the fuck out of here.
brendan schaub
Not me, I think filthy.
joe rogan
This bitch kicked me in the face.
unidentified
Filthy.
brendan schaub
I think filthy.
joe rogan
Yeah, but a girl kicks me in the face, she's definitely gonna call TMZ. You ever had a girl hit you?
I had a girl swing at me once, back when I was fighting.
And I saw her hand come up, and I saw her shoulder go back, and I saw her right hand come my way, and I'm like, I don't believe this is even happening.
brendan schaub
Did you double like a bitch?
joe rogan
I ducked under her, and I just grabbed her.
I ducked under the right hand and grabbed her.
I didn't even think about hitting her, because it was so ridiculous.
bryan callen
I had a girl reach down and grab a boot.
I said, you're being dumb.
I didn't say you're dumb.
brendan schaub
I said, you're being dumb.
joe rogan
She was trying to hit you?
bryan callen
She didn't just try to hit me.
She reached down.
She goes, I'm dumb.
I said, you're being dumb.
I didn't say you're dumb.
She goes, I'm dumb.
And I went.
And before I could get out, she fucking, she was athletic.
She reached down and grabbed my boot.
She grabbed my boot.
By the, you know, and swung so hard and I remember I ducked.
I just saw it coming and I just went, I ducked and it made a, it crashed into my closet, you know, and it just went, and made a huge hole.
joe rogan
Was this back when you didn't have a door knob?
bryan callen
Uh, that's true, sir.
That was the house.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
The first time I went over to Brian's house, he has no doorknob.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
Like, there's a hole.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
He was a front door?
Yeah.
I pushed his door open.
brendan schaub
Jesus, dude.
joe rogan
And I go, bro, you don't have a doorknob.
He's like, ah, I gotta get it fixed.
So, one day, a homeless lady walked into his house and started making breakfast.
bryan callen
I had two pit bulls, too.
joe rogan
He was asleep.
A homeless lady was making breakfast in his kitchen.
She's like, you got a really nice house.
unidentified
Yeah.
Just chilling?
bryan callen
I actually wasn't asleep.
I came home, and the neighbors were freaking out.
They called the cops to come in, and she goes, and I'm in there, and she's making me a whole meal.
And I came, and my dogs were there, and she's like, honey, you got it going on.
You got it going on.
And I was like, and the cops came.
I was like, no, no, it's fine.
I go, thank you, sweetheart.
joe rogan
No doorknob.
brendan schaub
Who called the cops, though?
bryan callen
The neighbors.
joe rogan
There was no doorknob.
bryan callen
She was making me a full meal.
It was fantastic.
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
bryan callen
You fucked her, too.
unidentified
I was going to say, not terrible looking.
joe rogan
Really?
bryan callen
Back then I was like, you know what?
Maybe.
joe rogan
Roll the bag.
bryan callen
I mean, if you got a little less crack, a year before the crack epidemic, maybe.
brendan schaub
Dude, when I first started training, the girls I would date, because I was training all the time, whenever we'd get an argument, they'd hit me.
Not in the face, they'd always punch me or push me.
bryan callen
I hated it.
Because you're so big.
brendan schaub
I hated it.
joe rogan
Because they didn't get away with it.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Because it's like hitting a punching bag.
brendan schaub
Not cool, man.
joe rogan
Nothing's going to come their way.
brendan schaub
Correct.
And then I remember I was living in this basement with all these roommates, and me and my girl at the time were fighting, and I was, like, lifting a lot.
It was probably 265 at the time.
And she did something that horrible, I forget what, but it pissed me off.
And there was a couch, and I wanted to leave.
And I remember I was like, just fucking do it!
I lifted up the couch, and to me, you know, I thought it was a heavy couch, but it was like one of those Ikea couches.
This thing went poof!
And fucking hit the ceiling, landed on the wall, and she's like, oh my god.
I was like, oh shit, that's not good.
joe rogan
And then you fucked and she got hot.
brendan schaub
No, she wanted to call the cops.
I'm like, for throwing a sofa?
I didn't mean to launch this shitty sofa.
joe rogan
Can you get in trouble for throwing a sofa?
I don't think you can.
bryan callen
I don't think so.
joe rogan
If the cops came, you'd be like, I didn't throw it at her.
brendan schaub
They have to arrest someone if it's a domestic violence call.
So even if it's not true, they gotta take me away.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if it's not violence, if the cops come...
brendan schaub
Hashtag no Greg Hardy.
joe rogan
But if the cops come and you say, I didn't do anything violent to her, I just got mad and I threw the sofa over there.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but then crazy bitches go, yeah?
unidentified
I know a guy who did that with a girl.
joe rogan
He started clawing his own arms.
bryan callen
Oof, yeah.
brendan schaub
He's kind of a pussy.
Just his arms.
bryan callen
Do your face, bro.
That's my joke where I talk about sometimes you get so mad at a girl that you want to kill yourself.
joe rogan
I don't think that's what happened.
I think he did that because he thought that she was going to fucking do it to him.
He thought that she was going to call the cops.
They were screaming at each other and they probably thought the neighbors heard.
And he's like, I'm gonna just fucking...
He just started clawing himself.
bryan callen
Yeah, but I told you the story where I was breaking up with a girl.
brendan schaub
It's like foot stomp.
bryan callen
You remember that story I told you where I was breaking up with a girl.
She was moving out of my house.
She started opening my windows going, stop hitting me!
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
bryan callen
And I was like closing the window.
joe rogan
Dude, this looks like an even match.
bryan callen
We know you don't hit me.
joe rogan
Look at this fight they're setting.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at the jeans.
unidentified
He looks like the fucking guy from Orange County Choppers.
joe rogan
He's going to fight in those jeans just so he can get dressed quick on the way out.
bryan callen
What a beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is a set.
Here's the fight.
Ready?
Take down.
Ground and pound.
Stoppage.
brendan schaub
In a minute.
joe rogan
Quickly.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is a set up.
I don't like that.
Is that his debut?
brendan schaub
He's never fought before.
joe rogan
So have him fight in a smaller organization.
brendan schaub
Or not.
Just feed him to these fucking...
He shouldn't be in jeans.
He shouldn't be in jeans.
joe rogan
It's not disrespectful to him, and it's not disrespectful to the sport, but it's disrespectful to a large-scale organization to have a guy who's a guy who's coming in from pro wrestling, who's got a big fan base.
Do it the right way, and then eventually make your way into a big organization.
brendan schaub
Greg What are you talking about?
He's a co-main event on ESPN. Well, how'd that go?
joe rogan
How'd that work out?
unidentified
Awful.
brendan schaub
We watched it together and we were clowning it the whole time.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a joke.
Well, I knew that guy was fading quick.
We were talking about it in your green room.
I was like, he's fading.
I don't like the way he's stepping.
He looks exhausted.
He tired out quick.
Then he hit that dude with an illegal knee.
Do you think he's still going to be in the UFC after that?
brendan schaub
100%.
They've invested too much in him.
Dana said he's going to give him another fight.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Interesting.
It's a bummer, but that's the life we live.
joe rogan
And what do you do with him?
brendan schaub
What do I do with him?
joe rogan
Francis Ngannou.
bryan callen
Wouldn't his learning curve...
brendan schaub
I give him Derek Lewis and give him the fuck out of it.
I go, oh, you like to kill women?
Here's Derek Lewis who came from a domestic violence home.
He's pretty good.
Enjoy this.
Oh, you want to be a fighter?
Here's Derek Lewis.
joe rogan
Derek!
unidentified
Derek!
joe rogan
But that guy, you know, he has...
How many fights has Greg Hardy had?
brendan schaub
What's that?
That'd be his fourth?
He had three on the whatever.
joe rogan
Dan and White.
bryan callen
With a guy like that, he was a pro bowler, really athletic.
Wouldn't his learning curve be very, very steep or quick?
Wouldn't he?
He has the potential.
brendan schaub
There's too much to download, especially at his age.
He's 30. So you've got to download a lot of information.
So maybe he's working a lot on striking, but you can't cover jiu-jitsu, kickboxing, wrestling, boxing, all that.
bryan callen
No matter who you are.
brendan schaub
No, it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
Take Herschel Walker.
It doesn't matter if they're that great of an athlete.
It takes a fucking while to learn the skill, man.
joe rogan
Well, Herschel Walker was a world-class athlete and a lifelong martial artist.
brendan schaub
Correct.
Different animal.
joe rogan
Yeah, different animal.
brendan schaub
But I'm saying even if you take an athletic...
Like, LeBron James would struggle.
joe rogan
If you threw him to the UFC. I firmly believe that Herschel Walker would have given a lot of dudes a hard fucking time.
brendan schaub
At his age or if he started earlier?
joe rogan
Even in his 40s.
Even in his 40s.
I think he was such a fucking freak stud of an athlete.
He's such an outlier.
He would have given a lot of guys.
bryan callen
He had world class speed.
He had 235. He was running Olympic speed.
brendan schaub
He was in the Olympics.
joe rogan
He was such a freak.
brendan schaub
Super freak.
joe rogan
He's such an unbelievable, and a real martial artist.
He really had skills.
When I first saw him fight the UFC, or Strikeforce rather, I was like, oh my god.
He can actually fight.
Dudes are scared of him.
He was moving in the right way.
He wasn't doing anything wrong.
He was taking guys down, smashing them, and the physical power that he had was just scary.
bryan callen
Well, his body is so stupid.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
brendan schaub
And also the team he trained with, AKA.
He did it right.
joe rogan
He went to the right place.
brendan schaub
And they gave him the right fights.
It was good.
But if he started younger, you'd have a real problem on your hands.
Real problems.
joe rogan
Yes, real problems.
brendan schaub
If he wanted to be an actual fighter.
joe rogan
It's interesting because when you get elite athletes, how many of them actually want to fight?
brendan schaub
Who's the most elite athlete?
joe rogan
In the UFC? I think Yael Romero.
Yes.
bryan callen
100%.
joe rogan
I think you're right.
brendan schaub
And he's a wrestler, Cuba.
In Cuba, it's either boxing or wrestling.
bryan callen
Yeah, but remember, Yoel Romero is a freak and so amazing because he came to MMA at, what, 35?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
30?
joe rogan
Yoel Romero is going to be 62 years old walking on the beach with a dick like a fucking Quaker Oats box.
Yeah.
Just hanging between his legs.
bryan callen
Correct.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's fighting a fucking homeboy.
The other dying piece.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
Eddie Bravo sent us the fucking tweet.
bryan callen
Hey, I just reposted it.
joe rogan
He just sent it to us.
But it's hilarious.
eddie bravo
That's some private shit.
brendan schaub
It's hilarious.
eddie bravo
I didn't make that.
It was a meme that I sent to it.
We got a little group.
joe rogan
I'm sending it to Jamie right now.
brendan schaub
It's fucking great.
eddie bravo
We got a little group.
I didn't make the meme up.
unidentified
Who is this guy?
bryan callen
Who is this guy?
joe rogan
You would never do that.
bryan callen
J.W. Kaiser.
eddie bravo
I don't do memes.
brendan schaub
He's some guy who's about to get fucked up, Brian.
Don't need to download his information.
The guy coming up, Jack Swagger, is the guy you should probably take notice of.
bryan callen
Okay.
I'm not mad at the Bellator girls.
I'm not mad at all.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
unidentified
Mercedes?
bryan callen
I'm not mad at all.
brendan schaub
Oh, my.
Yeah.
bryan callen
Wow.
eddie bravo
Paula Costa and Yolo Romero for sure have the best boy at DC. 100%.
joe rogan
100%.
bryan callen
100%.
brendan schaub
You toss Luke Rocko pound for pound?
joe rogan
Yeah, but Luke Rocko's longer and thinner.
He's beautiful and all that.
brendan schaub
He's a model.
joe rogan
He's beautiful, but there's a big difference.
He doesn't look like a gorilla.
Look at this.
Yolo Romero versus Paula Costa.
eddie bravo
Who made that?
Who made that?
unidentified
I don't know.
eddie bravo
It's fucking great.
joe rogan
Eddie sent that to us today.
We're fucking crying.
unidentified
Howling.
brendan schaub
Howling.
eddie bravo
I did not make that.
brendan schaub
No, but you sent it.
eddie bravo
I did not make that.
joe rogan
You did make it.
eddie bravo
I don't even agree with it.
joe rogan
I agree with it.
eddie bravo
I sent it.
joe rogan
I agree with it.
This is private.
Damn!
unidentified
You have to agree with it.
eddie bravo
That was private.
joe rogan
I agree with it.
bryan callen
I don't even want to know what to say right now.
I'm fucking outraged.
brendan schaub
Let me say that shit.
joe rogan
You stay off the whiskey, bro.
I'm trying to get fired.
They're calling me in this week to do fucking the breakdown shit.
Fright breakdowns.
bryan callen
I think you saw the test two more.
joe rogan
That dude's got a Bellator tattoo on his back.
brendan schaub
Oh shit, he does.
joe rogan
It's like slash Bellator slash The Caribbean slash 300 movie.
bryan callen
He's enthusiastic as hell.
joe rogan
Imagine if a guy had all Johnny Depp's tattoos.
brendan schaub
That'd be sick.
eddie bravo
No, the other guy's a pro wrestler.
I don't know anything about him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, in the NWF for a long time.
joe rogan
I think this guy's going to win.
brendan schaub
Anyone want to bet?
eddie bravo
Let's bet $10.
joe rogan
I'll bet you the dollar that I lost on Brian.
eddie bravo
No, $20.
brendan schaub
$20.
eddie bravo
$20.
joe rogan
All right.
bryan callen
Did I take that dollar?
I actually took it, didn't I? I gave you a dollar, bro.
Nice.
eddie bravo
You're the guy that doesn't think CM Punk should have gotten a shot.
And now you're favoring this pro wrestler?
brendan schaub
See, that's the problem, Eddie.
CM Punk doesn't have any amateur background.
This dude beat Cain Velasquez twice in college.
eddie bravo
Oh, he's a wrestler.
brendan schaub
Legit.
eddie bravo
I take it back.
brendan schaub
I don't want to take your money.
Who beat Cain?
unidentified
Jack Swagger beat Cain Velasquez in college.
brendan schaub
He wrestled at Oklahoma.
Had offers from Oklahoma State, everyone, and decided to go to Oklahoma.
joe rogan
What's his real name?
brendan schaub
Jack Hager.
joe rogan
Hager's a good name.
bryan callen
Handsome guy.
brendan schaub
Handsome guy.
Great dude.
Really good dude.
joe rogan
17 feet tall.
unidentified
Humble too.
brendan schaub
Pretty humble.
bryan callen
What is he?
6'7".
Taller than you.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
He's tall.
brendan schaub
He's not 6'7".
What is this?
joe rogan
It's his birthday.
It's vitamins Take a real It's your birthday Don't take a real I got a drive Take a hit Don't take a hit Take a hit Take a real I got a drive It's his birthday I got a drive It's Brian's birthday It's your birthday I can't You have a Tesla You have a Tesla Yeah you got a Tesla Will I be cool?
brendan schaub
You're going to be so much funner on the set You think so guy Elon Musk took a hit I just want to be friends with you guys Come on, just don't inhale.
Do it, bro.
bryan callen
No, I don't want this.
brendan schaub
It's your birthday.
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
brendan schaub
It's your birthday.
joe rogan
It'll make me sluggish.
bryan callen
It'll make me sluggish like you guys.
brendan schaub
Killer Mike's like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Killer Mike, dude.
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
brendan schaub
All right, that's good.
I don't want you getting crazy.
unidentified
Look.
joe rogan
That's nothing.
eddie bravo
That was nothing.
Come on, man.
unidentified
Elon Musk took a big ass down.
joe rogan
There you go.
Let me see.
eddie bravo
Blow it out.
unidentified
That's legit.
eddie bravo
You got nothing.
brendan schaub
It's his birthday.
bryan callen
I can't smoke weed, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, no one's not your birthday.
eddie bravo
You know what?
It's not your birthday.
Fuck it.
bryan callen
I'm only a wine guy.
brendan schaub
Oh shit, look at this!
bryan callen
Who's this?
Turn this up.
I want to hear him.
unidentified
Is that an OSP? No, it's an OSP. He's got nice pants and shoes.
joe rogan
Ovin St. Prue is rapping?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Is that what you just said?
eddie bravo
Check the pants and the shoes.
I think you might approve.
joe rogan
What is he doing?
We the people?
Oh, my God.
Oh, that's his walkout song.
Well, lucky for us.
eddie bravo
What do you think about the pants and the shoes, Brendan?
brendan schaub
I like the red jeans, but I don't like the white shoes with it.
joe rogan
Eddie, let me ask you this.
You ever think you'd get into fashion, or are you just like me?
eddie bravo
You know what?
If I was single, I'd be all up in fashion.
I'd be hanging out with Brendan.
brendan schaub
Dude, you liked fashion back in the day.
What are you talking about?
That vintage moto jacket?
joe rogan
How bad my style was.
This is what I would wear.
I would wear bowling shirts that were very flashy.
I would find them and they were shiny and I'd wear them on stage.
We were probably headed to a show.
Brian and I were probably on our way out to a show.
Brian, do you have any idea where we were going in that photo when we were 12?
bryan callen
Yeah, I know exactly where we were going.
joe rogan
Where were we going?
bryan callen
You had performed at the Gotham Comedy Club.
joe rogan
Shout out to my boy Chris Mazzilli.
brendan schaub
I did, dude.
Big one.
bryan callen
And you crushed him.
We were with Patty Jenkins.
In fact.
And you crushed the room.
I remember you crushed it.
And then we were with my friend Marie Miserudino.
joe rogan
I wasn't very funny back then.
brendan schaub
Long ago?
bryan callen
What do you mean you weren't?
unidentified
What year?
joe rogan
What year was that sloppy?
bryan callen
You used to crush rooms.
joe rogan
What year?
bryan callen
Oh, dude.
In 90...
Remember him in 98, 99?
That was just your first CD. When he would do the tiger fucking...
You would crush rooms.
joe rogan
I told you that.
bryan callen
I've never seen anybody crush Room when you would do that shit when you were younger.
It was nuts.
You'd come off completely drenched in sweat.
brendan schaub
Shout out to Baby Slice, Kimbo Slice's son.
joe rogan
Is that true?
unidentified
Yeah, bro.
brendan schaub
His name's Baby Slice.
bryan callen
I don't know.
Shit, I gotta go.
brendan schaub
No, you don't, bro.
joe rogan
When's your wrap-out parties end?
bryan callen
I gotta go to...
brendan schaub
It doesn't start until you get there.
joe rogan
Yeah, when does the party end?
brendan schaub
Midnight.
bryan callen
But it's your show, right?
Yeah, so I gotta...
joe rogan
It's 7.30, B. What time does it start?
unidentified
8?
bryan callen
It starts at 7, but I got time.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
Yeah, 8.30.
joe rogan
Wait a couple hours.
brendan schaub
Wait for the food to get out, bro.
joe rogan
Bro.
eddie bravo
Imagine if you get there and there's no one there.
joe rogan
If you go there now, you're gonna be met with the extras who have scripts for you.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hey, Brian, I want to talk to you about this independent film.
brendan schaub
Dude, let me on your podcast.
bryan callen
On your podcast.
joe rogan
Do you have people try to get on your podcast and you don't want on your podcast?
What do you do?
bryan callen
All the time, B. We have some issues for that.
brendan schaub
And we blame each other.
I go, you've got to talk to Brian.
He books all of it.
bryan callen
That's what I do.
brendan schaub
And Brian blames me.
He goes, you've got to talk to Shab.
He books it.
bryan callen
I just say this.
I say the truth.
I say we have sponsors.
unidentified
No, you don't.
bryan callen
They don't let you.
joe rogan
I called them.
They said no.
bryan callen
We hear about it.
We hear about it from our sponsors.
And also, Brendan doesn't like you.
I say those things.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Oh, so your homeboy's 36?
Hager's 36?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he wrestled for 12 years out of college.
joe rogan
I like how he's going with his real name.
bryan callen
He wrestled...
brendan schaub
He has to.
joe rogan
That's legit.
brendan schaub
Like, you know The Rock can't go as The Rock in movies anymore?
Otherwise, WWE gets a percentage of it?
Because they own the name The Rock?
Yeah.
bryan callen
Oh, so he's a legit professional wrestler, as in?
brendan schaub
WWE for 12 years, but before that, wrestled at Oklahoma.
Like, legit wrestling background.
How badass.
Oh, and got a scholarship.
Hold up.
First of all, this is how much of an athlete he is.
Got a scholarship to play football at Oklahoma, and then was like, eh, I don't know about this, and went and did wrestling instead.
bryan callen
Jesus.
brendan schaub
Freak.
Jesus.
Freak.
Oklahoma's as big as they get.
He was there the same time I was there.
joe rogan
So he's a walk-on?
Was he a walk-on?
brendan schaub
I think they gave him a scholarship.
joe rogan
To both?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a monster.
joe rogan
So did he wrestle in high school as well?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
bryan callen
This guy looks...
I'm sorry, all due respect, that guy looks like a regular guy.
joe rogan
He sells cheesesteaks.
brendan schaub
Dude, he sells tires.
bryan callen
Is that true?
brendan schaub
Yes.
And discount tires.
bryan callen
Alright, well, so this is his first...
joe rogan
If this guy's listening at one point in his life, no disrespect, bro.
bryan callen
No.
brendan schaub
No, tires is fucking tough.
bryan callen
He's in there.
joe rogan
He might win by knockout.
bryan callen
By the way, he's in there.
You gotta respect anybody.
joe rogan
Imagine if that tire salesman just fucking hits him with a hammer.
bryan callen
He got himself in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a professional fighter.
He'll beat the shit out of me.
unidentified
Ah, Mike Beltran.
brendan schaub
Could Mike Beltran beat him up?
Yes.
joe rogan
Well, Mike Beltran would kill him with his mustache.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
He's got that shit ready in case a motherfucker slips.
bryan callen
He's a good man.
eddie bravo
Mike Beltran is a brown belt in jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
He's a legit referee, too.
brendan schaub
Also one of the best refs and legit person.
joe rogan
Yeah, really good guy.
bryan callen
Super smart.
Great guy.
joe rogan
He always gives you a real warm hug, and he's a very, very good referee.
brendan schaub
And his beard smells like olives.
joe rogan
I'd say he's the top three referee on the planet.
brendan schaub
Hands down.
bryan callen
100%.
And a great guy.
joe rogan
You know, there's a few.
Well, I don't even want to put them in order.
brendan schaub
You don't have to.
joe rogan
Here's one who doesn't get enough love, Josh Rosenthal.
Oh, he got clipped!
bryan callen
Oh boy.
joe rogan
Here's the wrestling.
Here it comes.
brendan schaub
Dude, Rosenthal didn't get left because he was gone for eight years.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He wasn't gone for that part.
bryan callen
Oh boy.
joe rogan
Six?
He went away for...
No.
I don't even think it was three.
bryan callen
He went away for a while.
brendan schaub
Oh, how dare you.
He got longer than three, bro.
A couple years.
He got six years, right?
joe rogan
I think...
I don't know.
eddie bravo
Over some shit that he wouldn't be...
That's legal now.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's legal.
I'm saying...
I love Josh.
joe rogan
He's the best.
brendan schaub
But I'm just saying he went away for a hot minute.
joe rogan
There was also...
I think you have guns and it's not just pot.
You get caught with guns and pot together.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's a no-no.
joe rogan
Even if you have the guns legally, I think there's a lot of shit.
bryan callen
Your boy Swagger's about to...
brendan schaub
Submit him?
joe rogan
Well, he's in half guard.
brendan schaub
The Ron Waterman fucking key lock.
bryan callen
Can't he go with that with the old key lock?
joe rogan
You can win a Kimura from half guard.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
You definitely can.
bryan callen
Oh, there you go.
joe rogan
He's got it.
brendan schaub
He just needs to sit back.
bryan callen
There you go.
brendan schaub
Well, don't do the straight arm.
bryan callen
He's not sure how to do it, though, is he?
brendan schaub
No, he does.
joe rogan
He's trying to power his way through it.
Matt Hughes tapped somebody with a Kimura from half guard.
brendan schaub
That's my shit.
joe rogan
Matt Hughes tapped Joe Riggs with a Kimura from half guard.
bryan callen
Oh, shit.
unidentified
I believe.
brendan schaub
Oh, that was a big elbow that just missed.
bryan callen
Head and arm.
Get that head and arm.
joe rogan
Once wrestlers, like a real wrestler, gets a hold of you, like a Matt Hughes or this character, Oh, shit.
That could be it right there.
Gorilla strength.
eddie bravo
Those elbows, dude.
unidentified
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
You know who's one of the strongest people I've ever...
Football, NFL, UFC? Who?
Bobby Lashley.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
brendan schaub
That motherfucker is, hashtag no racist, gorilla strong.
Fucking will squeeze your dick off.
joe rogan
He's so jacked.
bryan callen
He's a bad situation for a guy.
brendan schaub
And such a good wrestler.
joe rogan
Yeah, so jacked.
I mean, he might have the most muscle.
bryan callen
Get that head and arm!
eddie bravo
Get that head and arm!
joe rogan
Oh, that's the arm.
She's got the smash down.
brendan schaub
He's pushing up.
joe rogan
He's still trapped in half guard.
unidentified
It's over.
joe rogan
It depends on how tough this guy is.
It depends on how tough this guy is.
I don't know, man.
eddie bravo
It's over.
And that's it.
unidentified
See?
bryan callen
Eddie Bravo.
brendan schaub
Jack Swagger, baby.
Congrats.
joe rogan
That's why Eddie Bravo teaches jiu-jitsu.
Look at him.
He looks good, man.
brendan schaub
Well, now a huge guy, man.
bryan callen
Big guy.
unidentified
Huge.
bryan callen
Jesus Christ.
And a competitor.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I mean, he has some work to do, obviously, but he looks great.
joe rogan
For sure he does.
brendan schaub
And he's going to get on the mic and rip a great promo.
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
That's what he does.
Let's hear the promo.
We'll definitely hear the promo.
brendan schaub
He's a heel, so you know he's good on that mic.
joe rogan
But listen, that guy's fucking tough.
That guy he fought...
That guy's, I mean, he gutted it out for as long as he said, don't look at me while I'm saying this.
bryan callen
Look at Brendan's soft glare.
Brendan's giving you the soft glare.
unidentified
He's a soft guy!
bryan callen
We call that the soft glare.
joe rogan
He might not be the most skillful, and he definitely couldn't handle this huge top flight wrestler.
bryan callen
Probably didn't belong in there with a guy that athletic and strong.
joe rogan
Hey, Brendan, let me ask you this.
How many guys you know that have fucked up, chipped up elbows?
That's a super common thing, right?
brendan schaub
Here?
How fucked up are yours?
That's shit floating around in here.
joe rogan
Little bone chips and shit?
bryan callen
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
And I wasn't a big elbow guy.
Just life.
joe rogan
Did you ever see that picture of Jacare?
Jacare went to the hospital to get bone chips taken out of his elbow?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Dude, it was like, you know how they put a little cup of nuts on your table when you go to a nice restaurant?
brendan schaub
Or when you're on the airplane?
joe rogan
Macadamia nuts.
brendan schaub
That's what it looked like.
joe rogan
Airplane nuts.
brendan schaub
When they dropped the nuts off, that's what it was in his elbow.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
But just macadamia nuts.
joe rogan
That's it right there.
bryan callen
Oh, no!
joe rogan
That's all the shit from Jacare's elbow.
bryan callen
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
Yeah, bro.
Listen, when you just won't tap like Jacare, did you ever see that?
It wasn't Abu Dhabi.
What was it?
Was it the Mundials when he got armbarred by Hodger and he wouldn't tap and Hodger broke his arm and he tucked his arm in his jacket and won a decision?
eddie bravo
Oh, Christ.
joe rogan
Do you remember that?
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Elbows.
brendan schaub
Hodger tucked his arm.
joe rogan
Was it Hodger?
brendan schaub
Hodger tucked his arm.
joe rogan
Again, oh, I'm wrong.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who tapped him, though?
It wasn't Jacare, was it?
brendan schaub
No.
Was it Bouchesha?
bryan callen
Did you ever roll with Buchesha?
joe rogan
Did the same thing happen with Jacare, though?
I feel like Jacare got his arm broken and he would not tap.
And he wound up winning the fight.
brendan schaub
I know.
eddie bravo
That happened with Vinny Magalhães and Fabricio Verdum.
joe rogan
That's true.
That happened there, too.
eddie bravo
Fabricio had...
joe rogan
Hadra Gracer breaks Jacare's arm.
Yes, thank you.
Jesus Christ.
Don't ever question my fucking goofy memory.
That memory that makes no sense.
brendan schaub
Hadra also tucked his away, too.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that.
So Jacare got his arm fully snapped and just would not fucking tap.
bryan callen
How good is Jacare, by the way?
joe rogan
Well, how good is Hadra?
Hadra's breaking his arm here.
bryan callen
I mean, I meant Hadra.
joe rogan
He almost tapped there, it looked like.
He almost tapped.
So he gets out, and when he gets out, his arm is fucksville.
So they stand him back up again.
Now watch when they stand him back up again.
He realizes his arm is fucked, and so he can't use it.
So check this.
He tucks it in his fucking belt.
bryan callen
What a tough motherfucker.
joe rogan
Dude.
Savage.
bryan callen
What a tough motherfucker.
joe rogan
Savage.
Wouldn't tap.
Won the decision.
brendan schaub
Dude, Jacare's such an animal.
joe rogan
Animal.
brendan schaub
Did they give him a fight?
joe rogan
I think Jacare's fighting soon.
I think he's got a good fight.
brendan schaub
It's a good fight, right?
joe rogan
Who is it?
unidentified
Who is it?
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
eddie bravo
Just one.
brendan schaub
You might as well, dude.
eddie bravo
I'm not drinking this.
joe rogan
Okay, okay, okay.
bryan callen
Just a little wine, dude.
unidentified
Keep it together.
bryan callen
It's a little red wine.
Everybody calm down.
joe rogan
It's Brian's birthday.
bryan callen
Fuck, man.
It's my birthday.
I mean, I can't have a couple glasses.
You want to talk conspiracy?
What the fuck is the problem?
eddie bravo
Go chemtrails, please.
joe rogan
It is his birthday.
bryan callen
Oh, fuck.
He already believes that the moon landing is real, so...
joe rogan
It is a good point.
brendan schaub
Back on that.
eddie bravo
We did.
brendan schaub
I just want to talk a little conspiracy about that MLK thing.
What do you think of that being?
Because you're kind of a government show.
bryan callen
I'm listening to half the Mike Baker.
I like Mike Baker.
I didn't hear anything about that.
joe rogan
That's later.
It's towards the end.
It's one of the last things I wanted to ask him in the last half hour of the show.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of YouTube videos on that, by the way.
MLK. I went down that rabbit hole.
unidentified
Hold on.
eddie bravo
That being a...
You know, conspiracy theory, that's just one of the conspiracy theories.
I think most, like, there's the John Lennon one, too.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, for sure, but just MLK, for sure, he was disrupting this, he was bringing people together in a way that could disrupt power.
unidentified
Masses.
bryan callen
Look at the difference in body types.
brendan schaub
This is ridiculous.
unidentified
Looks like a before and after picture in the magazine.
eddie bravo
Martin Luther King was just a shill.
There's one of those.
There's pictures of him and the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers hanging out partying.
brendan schaub
Dude, they said he used to have parties and fucked just white girls.
joe rogan
Well, I would too if I was him.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
That's the move.
eddie bravo
That's another conspiracy theory.
joe rogan
But that conspiracy theory, for sure he probably met those people.
Because for sure they probably wanted to meet him.
It's not like you're either in or you're out with a group like that, right?
eddie bravo
Well, it isn't just about those two pictures I mentioned.
There's YouTube videos on MLK. Are you giving the promo?
joe rogan
Let me hear this.
Let me hear this.
Is he screaming?
brendan schaub
He said Oklahoma stand-up.
But they're in LA, so it's tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, Oklahoma stand-up.
You got like two dudes in the audience and they're lying.
They're lying that they're from Oklahoma.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah, we need Oxtap.
unidentified
I drove through once.
brendan schaub
I drove through once.
unidentified
Big John McCarthy.
I was trying to slow everything down in my mind.
joe rogan
Good answers.
Trying to slow everything down in his mind.
You know, with a guy like this, you almost wish he got in 10 years ago, you know?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He can do some work at Bellator Heavyweight, though, without wrestling back, man.
joe rogan
He'd probably win the whole thing.
If he can figure out a way to not get hit, you know?
He's huge!
bryan callen
Giant Viking.
joe rogan
What does he weigh?
eddie bravo
235. 265. Sorry, man.
brendan schaub
I'm high as fuck.
237. 245. I was trying to listen to the...
joe rogan
245?
bryan callen
I think they said it.
brendan schaub
No, he's 240-something.
He's a big fucking dude.
joe rogan
Do you think there's a point where you're too big?
Some people think 265 is too big.
brendan schaub
Too big.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Look at all the champions.
Stipe 240, Kane 240, JDS 240, 235. You know what?
eddie bravo
It all depends on how you train.
unidentified
Fedor 230. You could be 300 pounds if you train right.
joe rogan
Guys, you can't talk over each other.
brendan schaub
Come on, bro.
eddie bravo
You could be 300 pounds and athletic.
The problem is, in my opinion, as far as jiu-jitsu goes, the bigger the guy...
The less training partners, he has to really get real roles in it.
So they end up not really training right.
And that's why, generally speaking, the bigger the guy in jiu-jitsu, the less technique he has.
Because he's used to rolling day after day just using his weight and his power.
It's not his fault.
You know what I mean?
But if you got...
A dude that's 285 pounds, and somehow he had a billionaire backer, and he just got all these big guys.
Every day he had 15, 20 big guys to roll with.
joe rogan
Buchecha.
eddie bravo
Yes.
See, that's an example.
Buchecha's a big motherfucker, and he's super technical.
Super technical, moves like a cat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It's just the bigger the guy, the shittier the training.
brendan schaub
Same for girls too, right?
unidentified
Same for females.
eddie bravo
Nobody wants to roll with the big dudes.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to put together a super camp.
eddie bravo
Big guys come through and they quit jiu-jitsu often because no one will roll with them.
joe rogan
I think that's a big reason why DC's as good as he is and Kane's as good as he is.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
Those two fucking superheroes smashing into each other every day.
brendan schaub
Fuck yes, you are correct.
bryan callen
Luke Rockhold told me that when Kane was healthy, without question, baddest guy on the planet and gave all of them All of them.
He was a nightmare for all of them.
brendan schaub
Dude, DC said he was healthy.
He goes, brother.
bryan callen
Beats all of them.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and this is off my everything.
He goes, dude, I'm telling you.
We've never seen anything like healthy Cain.
bryan callen
Nobody likes him.
brendan schaub
You can't fuck with him.
No one fucks with him.
joe rogan
DC said to me that he goes, if that guy was healthy, he goes, I really watch Cain.
I train with Cain.
I can't beat that dude.
He said, I can't beat that guy.
And DC was saying it just with 100% humility and just saying, look, the guy was the best.
I wish there was a way to find out who really was the best.
unidentified
You can't.
joe rogan
Because the most accomplished is Stipe.
And he doesn't get into the picture enough, and it's not his fault.
Oh, Aaron Pico's fighting next.
brendan schaub
Fuck yes!
joe rogan
Because with Stipe, Stipe, look, he did what he had to do.
He won the title, but the guys that he fought in that time period were not the best of the best.
It wasn't like he fought Kane when Kane fought JDS2. Oh my god, that fucking fight, bro.
eddie bravo
That was vintage, bro.
unidentified
Fuck.
brendan schaub
And that's prime JDS. JDS was a motherfucker.
But also, the argument to that too, Fedor went undefeated for what, seven years?
joe rogan
That is a good argument.
brendan schaub
And Mr. Pico, you know what I'm saying?
Like, they did all the Picos.
joe rogan
So it didn't matter.
They did everything.
brendan schaub
And he went undefeated.
joe rogan
We don't know what Fedor did, but we know that they definitely let people do things.
So whether or not he did anything or didn't do anything, it's just purely speculation.
I'll leave that up to you.
brendan schaub
I mean, I bet my life on it, but not a big deal.
joe rogan
But some people over there were definitely doing stuff and they were encouraging it.
brendan schaub
All the stuff.
joe rogan
And we know people that went over there, they encouraged these people to take stuff.
brendan schaub
And Fedor was undefeated for seven years at that level.
joe rogan
But my point was that take everything aside, leave all that go.
What Fedor has that none of them have is that motherfucker will catch arm bars off his back like a lightweight.
That's the one thing that separates him from everybody.
People would throw him through the air.
He would hit the ground and five seconds later he'd have you in something.
brendan schaub
Also, his technique was so unconventional.
You can't train that.
His hands down at his hips and shit, it's weird.
joe rogan
Wing punches at you.
He could take a shot.
I mean, the Fujita fight, remember when we went on rubbery legs?
He got fucking rocked, man.
brendan schaub
Not to mention, the biggest thing, dude had dad bod during all this.
joe rogan
All of it.
brendan schaub
Didn't give a fuck.
Run through the mountains with fucking trees.
joe rogan
Ate all the corn.
bryan callen
That's what I feel like.
brendan schaub
Drawing weird shit on the side.
Oh, here's something about Fedor that people told me.
You know his favorite restaurant?
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
Red Lobster.
That motherfucker loves Red Lobster.
You know his favorite clothing store?
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
Abercrombie& Fitch.
joe rogan
Well, it smells good in there.
What's up now?
brendan schaub
Dropping fucking gems.
Red Lobster.
That motherfucker can't get enough of the shrimp scampi, I guess.
joe rogan
I guess if you're from another country, you don't know any better.
brendan schaub
Well, you don't think someone's like, bro, this place is awful.
joe rogan
Jack lobster's not bad.
Like, if we were all on the road, if we were in Kentucky, and we're just driving through some weird fucking truck stop, and there's a red lobster, we'd be like, ah, fuck it, there's a red lobster.
brendan schaub
It's pretty tasty.
unidentified
It's not bad.
brendan schaub
They're crab legs.
joe rogan
How do you fuck up lobster?
bryan callen
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
What are you gonna do, butter?
Boil it too much?
bryan callen
Butter and lobster?
brendan schaub
It's expensive.
eddie bravo
Do they have lobster in Russia?
brendan schaub
Absolutely not.
eddie bravo
Is it like an exotic cuisine?
joe rogan
For sure, gangsters get it.
brendan schaub
We get that.
eddie bravo
No, I'm sure they get it, but is it hard to get it?
Is it really expensive?
There's got to be lobster up there in the dark sea or wherever the fuck it is.
Whatever the fuck that is.
bryan callen
Dark sea.
eddie bravo
There's got to be lobster in the dead sea, right?
bryan callen
There's a black sea there too, right?
No, the dead sea is...
That's Israel.
joe rogan
No lobsters, no.
eddie bravo
Too much salt, right?
bryan callen
Yes, sir.
The Dead Sea is dead because there's so much salt.
joe rogan
But Salt Lake City has some organisms, correct?
I'm sorry?
Salt Lake?
Salt Lake in Utah?
bryan callen
I don't know.
joe rogan
It has some organisms, I think.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't think it has fish.
brendan schaub
Nothing Fedor can eat.
bryan callen
It's salt flats, Bubba.
brendan schaub
Salt Lake City?
bryan callen
It's dry.
It's actually dry salt.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there is a lot of water in there.
In Salt Lake.
brendan schaub
Dude, can you imagine?
That is a lake.
joe rogan
You ever fly over it when you go do Wise Guys?
You ever do that?
You do Wise Guys?
bryan callen
My parents retired in Utah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
brendan schaub
You ever do that?
joe rogan
Wise Guys Club?
bryan callen
I'll be in Wise Guys.
It's the greatest club.
brendan schaub
I'll be in Wise Guys.
bryan callen
Shout out to Wise Guys.
I'll be there March 1 and 2. I love it there.
Come see me.
brendan schaub
And the owner is my favorite owner out of all the clubs.
Keith is the fucking best.
bryan callen
Keith is a great guy.
joe rogan
Last time I was there, I was hanging out, talking to him after the show.
The staff's all super cool.
brendan schaub
And Keith knows sports like a motherfucker.
His brother was an offense coordinator at Alabama.
joe rogan
Great Salt Lake is too saline to support fish and most other aquatic species.
Several types of algae live in the lake.
Okay.
Brine shrimp and brine flies can also tolerate the high salt content.
brendan schaub
Those are like sea monkeys, though.
joe rogan
Brine shrimp eggs are harvested commercially and are sold overseas as prawn food.
bryan callen
Goddamn.
brendan schaub
Dude, can you imagine Fedor comes here, meets some hot girl, and takes her to Red Lobster and Abercrombie and Fitch?
She's like, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
She's like, I can't believe you're the goat.
The goat took me to Red Lobster with his fucking goofy sweater of honor on.
That sweater of victory.
brendan schaub
But he thinks it's just a baller move.
He just doesn't know.
bryan callen
Josh Thompson.
joe rogan
Yeah, but bulletproof cars pull up to drop them off there.
brendan schaub
You're still eating shrimp scampi.
joe rogan
Bulletproof Suburbans with solid rubber wheels and shit and armed guards everywhere.
brendan schaub
He just smells like doused fucking cologne from Abercrombie.
unidentified
Jackar.
joe rogan
Smells like Jackar.
bryan callen
Hey, does Craig Glazer, did he play football?
brendan schaub
Jake Glazer?
bryan callen
Jake Glazer, did he play football or train MMA or anything?
joe rogan
But he's a coach.
eddie bravo
It looks like he's standing.
joe rogan
I think he is.
bryan callen
Isn't he an MMA coach?
joe rogan
Sometimes people like to stand because they can...
Well, it's...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Josh and Frank Twig.
bryan callen
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Pico.
bryan callen
That body...
brendan schaub
That's Prospect and mixed martial arts.
bryan callen
I watched that over and over again, dude.
unidentified
Oof.
bryan callen
Look at that shit, dude.
joe rogan
He throws a nasty left hook, man.
He's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
He's the number one amateur wrestler in the nation when he came out of high school.
joe rogan
And he's so young.
What is he now, 23?
bryan callen
Oh my god.
joe rogan
22. 22, that's so crazy.
brendan schaub
And Freddie Roach, he's the only guy Freddie Roach cosigns like this, especially in MMA. He came to 10th Planet, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, a little bit.
eddie bravo
I was trying to convince him.
I had no idea.
What his...
brendan schaub
His background?
eddie bravo
No, his strategy was for his MMA career.
I had no idea.
All I knew is he came to me and he was just fucking monster wrestler.
How long ago was this?
brendan schaub
How long ago though, Eddie?
bryan callen
Two years ago.
eddie bravo
Before his debut.
bryan callen
Who was this?
eddie bravo
Aaron Pico.
brendan schaub
Come on, bro.
bryan callen
Did you roll with him?
eddie bravo
Let me tell you the story.
So, he shows, actually, Joe texts me and goes, hey dude, there's this fucking beast named Aaron Pico, new dude coming up.
He wants to train with you.
They were looking for my contact info.
And I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, have him text me.
And then he texts me.
And to be honest, seriously, when people come through and they tell me they're going to be a fighter and they're going to be a champion and they wrestle 12 years, seriously.
But Aaron Pico?
I didn't know who he was.
At this point, I didn't know who he was.
He just told me he was still wrestling.
brendan schaub
He's got co-signed from Rogan, though.
eddie bravo
I'm just being honest with you.
joe rogan
How many guys have I ever sent you?
How many guys?
eddie bravo
Shit, I don't know.
brendan schaub
Not a ton, right?
joe rogan
Not a ton.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
Where a guy's super legit, and I'm like, dude.
eddie bravo
Yeah, so he texts me, and to be honest, that doesn't...
I just go to my class every night, and I teach my heart out.
If you want to join in on the class, come on down.
If you...
I don't want to hear...
joe rogan
Well, that attitude is why you're so fucking good.
eddie bravo
I don't want to hear that I'm going to be a champion.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I agree.
That's probably best, Eddie.
eddie bravo
So I didn't get too excited.
joe rogan
You would treat a high school kid the same way you'll treat a college wrestler.
eddie bravo
I just wasn't excited.
I'm like, okay, I got a bunch of motherfuckers I'm training right now.
I got a lot of shit that I'm working on right now.
There's He's so special.
So he texts me, he goes, hey, Joe gave me your number.
I want to come down.
I said, yeah, sure, come down.
And then I just kind of flaked on some texts or something.
And then he finally just showed up.
And he showed up, and then I looked him up.
I'm like, oh, shit, okay, okay.
So I had no idea that he's been working on being the ultimate version of...
He's our LeBron James.
Strategically as a fighter.
Like Chuck Liddell.
Like Chuck Liddell in his prime.
He wrestled.
So it was very hard to take him down.
And if you did, very hard to keep him down.
And that's what he used his wrestling for.
But Chuck Liddell was going to come out and take heads off.
I had no idea that's what Aaron Pico's strategy was.
So when I heard about him, I pulled him to the side and I told him, I said, listen, don't listen to anybody trying to tell you That you can be the best striker in the world and knock people out.
This is what I was telling him.
I had no idea that he was trying to be Chuck Liddell.
All I knew is that he was a stud wrestler.
So I was like, this is the best advice.
If I was on my deathbed, this is what I would tell you.
I would say, fucking wrestle.
Take dudes down, pass their guard, mount them, smash them, choke them.
That should be your number one strategy.
You're such an amazing wrestler.
Don't let anybody...
unidentified
He's boxing is better.
eddie bravo
He's sitting there listening to me.
Meanwhile, he's going, what the fuck is he talking about?
Because I'm going to do the opposite of what you're saying.
But he didn't say anything.
He didn't say anything.
So I kept reminding him this every time he came down.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
eddie bravo
But really, he just wanted to learn jujitsu just in case he ever got taken down and he ended up on the ground.
He had no intentions of using his wrestling to take people down and win the fight on the ground.
But every time, I remind him, I'm saying the same shit over and over.
brendan schaub
You know the guys he trains with.
They say, that motherfucker.
You know the guys he trains with.
The best of the best.
He does not lose a round.
bryan callen
He doesn't lose a round.
eddie bravo
Because you know, then he fought in his first fight.
He got caught with an uppercut.
He got staggered.
And then he got guillotined.
brendan schaub
Correct.
He fought a bigger guy.
bryan callen
You can YouTube him wrestling international guys like from Turkey, Iran, whatever, when he was 16. Okay.
eddie bravo
But check this out.
So let me just finish the story.
So even up to that point, right after that loss, I still didn't know that was his ultimate strategy.
I didn't know.
So after that fight, what I said was like, you know what?
It was almost like I told him, let's turn your ass into that Khabib, that GSP, that unstoppable takedown machine where you smash motherfuckers on the ground and you fucking choke them out.
Let's do this shit.
This was after that first loss.
And then I didn't hear from him after that.
unidentified
It was over.
eddie bravo
It was done.
joe rogan
So the first loss, because when he got clipped and he got hurt, then he got submitted.
eddie bravo
So for me, I was like, see, you should have just...
brendan schaub
Have you watched all his fights?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
My only issue with him, because he trains with world-class guys and, like I said, doesn't ever lose rounds, he's so confident.
He's like, dude, this isn't TJ Dillashaw.
This isn't this guy.
He goes, I'm going to smoke this guy.
So his respect isn't there yet.
And he just comes in because he's...
Knocked down Miguel Cotto on training.
So he comes in and got a clip and he just doesn't give a fuck.
eddie bravo
Let me finish this though.
Before I forget, let me just finish this.
So now, once I realized that I was giving him advice that was the complete opposite of his whole training, all his coaches, all his coaches wanted to use the wrestling to keep the fight standing so he could use his striking.
You know what I mean?
So...
Then I finally realized that.
Then he went his own way.
And then, you know, it took me a couple, two or three fights to realize that damn, they were right.
Shit.
This motherfucker can be that dude.
brendan schaub
I get excited for him as I do Jon Jones fighting.
eddie bravo
I was wrong.
joe rogan
Is this McKee's son that he's fighting?
brendan schaub
No, this is the top featherweights.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
Do you understand what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
Do you guys understand what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I understand 100%.
eddie bravo
So now at this point, I just want to make this clear.
Now at this point, I realize, damn, holy shit, they did have the right strategy.
He is an amazing striker.
I was just going by...
brendan schaub
That's your thing though, Eddie.
eddie bravo
Like, no, no, just like the odds.
What are the odds?
I'm like, dude, we already know you're one of the best wrestlers in the game.
We already know that.
Let's stick to that.
But you know what?
I had no idea that his striking is extraordinary.
brendan schaub
This is a tough fight for him.
bryan callen
This is?
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
Why do you say that?
brendan schaub
Henry Corrales is a very good fighter.
This is the toughest fight by far.
I was talking to the Bellator guys today, the insiders.
Don't expect him to smoke him in the first round, which I always think...
I think he finishes him under four minutes, but no, no, no.
This is a tough fight for him.
joe rogan
One of the things that I think is critical for a young fighter that's coming up is to not rely on any one thing.
Now, if you're talking about a guy who doesn't have to rely on any one thing, you're talking about Aaron Pico.
You're talking about a legit, world-class wrestler.
But if people know that you want to stand...
And they know that you, even though you're one of the best wrestlers in the world, you're not going to threaten them with the takedown.
That becomes an issue.
Because there's certain guys like Gaston Bolanos, or there's certain boxers or strikers, they've got some nasty shit for your ass.
And they know for a fact you're not going to take them down.
If you're standing up with Paul Daly, and he knows for a fact you're not going to take him down, he's going to launch a left hook from the moon.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
He's going to hit you in your fucking head.
He's going to separate your senses.
eddie bravo
That being said, that's probably their plan B. Their plan B would be gone.
joe rogan
But then that's not what I'm saying.
eddie bravo
If it's not going good on the feet...
joe rogan
Please let me finish.
The most important thing, if you can do all those things, is that the other guy has to not know what you're doing.
That was George St. Pierre's greatest strength.
You never knew when he was punching you or he was taking you down.
And you were always behind.
brendan schaub
Kostak fight.
Jabbing and double-egging.
joe rogan
So fucking good at that.
And he's not the best wrestler, and he's not the best striker.
But he was the best at figuring out how to do things you didn't know what was coming next.
unidentified
Where were you?
eddie bravo
He overloaded your...
joe rogan
Firas Ahabi and him were a phenomenal combination, because Firas is so intellectual, he's so smart, and he's thinking rationally.
He's not like, you're going to go in there and you're going to fuck him up.
None of that.
There's none of that.
It's all about overloading his mind.
It's all very rational, very technique-based, very psychology-based.
brendan schaub
But the reason that made that GSP so good also is you didn't know what he was doing, but he was facing that high-level competition.
Kostek, Matt Hughes, with Pico, all these guys, he goes, oh, I don't need to use my wrestling.
I'm going to knock him out with a body shot.
This guy with Henning Corrales, you're going to see the best version of him in Pico because he can't just sit there and fucking box with him.
You're going to see his wrestling.
I bet you're going to see something different and mix it up.
He's never been pushed.
He dominates everybody.
eddie bravo
Do you remember what John Danner told us the secret to GSP is?
Do you remember?
joe rogan
Was that when we were eating at that restaurant?
eddie bravo
Yep, and he had hair.
He said the secret to his success is it's super simple.
He's either going to faint jab, or he's going to actually really jab you, or faint take down, or actually take you down.
So there was always a faint before everything.
He's always throwing faints, so you never know when that shot's coming.
bryan callen
Are you talking about pico?
joe rogan
No, GSP. Well, that was the whole thing.
Farasa Hobby is just so...
The two of them together worked so well because they both have a great check of their ego and an understanding of the consequences.
eddie bravo
And he barely threw right hands to them.
bryan callen
Nate Markkorn has plenty of right hands.
joe rogan
And they're both really smart.
brendan schaub
They're both really, really smart.
bryan callen
Nate Markkorn told me, because he's trained with them all the time, said that he's an amazing chess player.
brendan schaub
Ah, that's George.
bryan callen
Yes, and so George is amazing.
So he's really strategic, and I feel like he could always find out where you were empty, where you had a weakness in your game, and that's where he would capitalize.
joe rogan
Well, he was super open-minded too, man.
bryan callen
Didn't he learn back kick from you?
Yes.
joe rogan
At Eddie's place.
I felt so embarrassed.
I just felt like it was ridiculous that I'm going to show him anything.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, there's a video on YouTube of Joe Rogan giving GSP a fucking kicking lesson.
bryan callen
Your back kick is legit.
joe rogan
Well, I wouldn't ever have tried to sell it to him if I didn't have anything.
But that came out of that same meeting with Donaher when we were in the restaurant.
Donaher set it up.
And he told me afterwards that he set me up.
He kind of heard.
So he's like, I'm looking for someone to teach GSP how to throw a turning sidekick.
His technique is off.
It's like we're in a fucking James Bond movie or something.
bryan callen
That's funny.
joe rogan
With his accent.
bryan callen
So, Corrales is 10 years older.
brendan schaub
He's no punk man.
Yeah, it's a tough fight for Pico.
But I still think Pico gets it done.
joe rogan
Well, it's all about where's Pico at right now.
It's all about where is he at right now because one day he's going to be unbeatable, right?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
It's like he's 22. What is he?
eddie bravo
45?
Is it 45?
brendan schaub
45, yeah.
joe rogan
He's on this streak that if he can keep up this intensity and he keep up this mindset, he's going to be a world champion.
The only thing that could stop him is a grave injury.
A grave injury or some sort of a mistake in his thinking where he starts taking things for granted or finds some woman who fucks up his life.
I don't think he will, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, a hot girl will fuck your life up.
eddie bravo
Dude, super crazy humble.
bryan callen
He's been training for so long.
eddie bravo
Super crazy humble.
joe rogan
No, he's on a path, man.
eddie bravo
He's super nice.
You know what he's good at, though?
The one thing that he got out of training at HQ is he's pretty goddamn good at twisters.
He likes twisters.
joe rogan
He's standing like a fucking matador.
He lives for this shit, dude.
He lives for this shit.
The thing is, how long can he keep this up?
Right now, he's doing it, though.
unidentified
Forever.
joe rogan
Right now, he's 22. He's making money.
He's a fucking savage.
brendan schaub
Come on.
joe rogan
He's something special.
bryan callen
That's where he belongs, right here.
joe rogan
Look, I mean, he does everything so well.
Everything.
From his defense to his striking.
unidentified
Double jab.
joe rogan
I mean, dude, he looks like a world champion boxer when he's got his hands up.
It doesn't mean he can't get caught.
It doesn't mean he can't get finished.
He can.
brendan schaub
He'll get a little reckless.
joe rogan
This motherfucker is...
brendan schaub
Gotta keep your hands up.
joe rogan
He's gonna be so good.
eddie bravo
He hits so fucking hard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, his body shots are ridiculous.
joe rogan
His left hook is one of the best left hooks.
Look at that.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Went with the duchy.
joe rogan
Went with the duchy.
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
Oh, my goodness.
That elbow.
bryan callen
Holy shit.
Got caught with the right.
joe rogan
A little bit.
A little bit.
He definitely got hit.
bryan callen
Morales, Corrales.
joe rogan
This is a real fight, you know?
bryan callen
Morales and Corrales are tough.
eddie bravo
Pico also has a crazy six-pack, too.
joe rogan
I mean, it's like a super shot.
bryan callen
Oh!
unidentified
I better tell you what I tell you, Eric and Bellator, under four, bro.
joe rogan
Oh, the left hook's coming.
There's one bouncing off the forehead.
brendan schaub
Uppercut's coming, son.
bryan callen
He's a little concussed.
Corrales is a little concussed.
eddie bravo
Don't stop it.
joe rogan
What about Morales?
Is Morales okay?
bryan callen
Morales is great, but Corrales is not doing well.
joe rogan
Oh, he needed the body.
Dude, he's eating some shots too bad.
brendan schaub
Be smart, Pico.
bryan callen
Oh, shit!
eddie bravo
He's out cold!
bryan callen
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness!
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness!
bryan callen
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness!
unidentified
Oh, no.
bryan callen
Oh, my goodness!
joe rogan
Oh, no.
bryan callen
That's what happens in fighting.
That's what happens in fighting.
Holy shit.
eddie bravo
Speechless.
bryan callen
I don't like seeing a young man get hit like that.
joe rogan
That was crazy.
bryan callen
Poor Brendan.
That was crazy.
joe rogan
Watch this.
Watch this again.
Why is he so reckless?
eddie bravo
Why is he so reckless?
joe rogan
Because he's a savage.
brendan schaub
But it's what we're talking about.
joe rogan
Look, look, look.
bryan callen
He's 22. He'll learn.
Watch this.
brendan schaub
Jon Jones didn't do this.
joe rogan
So he just wades in, and you could tell that Corrales had recovered.
Look at this.
Body shot, body shot.
brendan schaub
Hurts him there.
eddie bravo
Hand.
Hammer.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Hand snaps back out cold.
Out cold.
Two big bombs.
Look at this.
One more time.
unidentified
Boom!
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
That's all she wrote, dude.
Everything goes out.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm the Drake of MMA. And then two on the way down.
bryan callen
I don't like that.
joe rogan
Two on the way down.
bryan callen
His head is not...
Look at this again.
joe rogan
Look at this.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Perfect shot.
The lights go out in Georgia.
One, two, on the way down.
And then a third one when he's already out cold.
Holy shit.
That's some killer instinct right there.
brendan schaub
That could stop you.
You know what you're talking about?
You stop this progression?
That'll stop you.
Catastrophic injury.
Well, the first knockout...
joe rogan
Look at him.
He doesn't know what happened.
He's trying to figure out what happened now.
I mean, he was completely...
brendan schaub
Freddie's going, fuck this MMA stuff.
eddie bravo
You understand my deathbed confessional now?
joe rogan
Yes.
Astral traveling.
Your deathbed confessional, you're correct.
He could have taken him down.
Who's going to stop Aaron Pico from taking him down?
eddie bravo
He could have Khabib'd him.
joe rogan
He could have Khabib'd him.
Here's the thing.
brendan schaub
Why not do that early?
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
You can do all things.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
You can do all things, but if you're standing in front of a guy all the time, if you get that guy hurt the way he got that hurt, that guy hurt, if you're objective, okay?
It's easy to be Monday morning quarterback, right?
But objective, looking at it right now, I would say, take him down.
He's hurt.
Take him down, smash him up, and choke him.
And then you take no damage.
eddie bravo
Fuck!
No chances.
joe rogan
It's all about variables.
It's all about mitigating variables.
You close all the variables down when you take a guy down and mount him and start dropping elbows on his head.
You close all the variables.
If you can maintain the mount position and keep punching and you already know he's fucked up, it's all a matter of whether he's going to tap to strikes or you're going to get a choke.
bryan callen
I don't like seeing that.
brendan schaub
Such a bummer.
joe rogan
It's a bummer.
It's a bummer, but it's also not a bummer for Corrales.
brendan schaub
It's like, this is what the game is.
It's a heartbreak.
joe rogan
And everybody needs to see that.
Young guys coming up need to see that.
As good as you are, you've got to understand the mind.
You can't let yourself get sucked into this path for glory where you're wild and reckless and you're not keeping your hands up and you're not respecting the power of the guy that you're fighting.
brendan schaub
Especially when you have The technique, though.
There's no reason to play that game.
bryan callen
What mistake did he make?
joe rogan
He's a fucking killer, man.
unidentified
He had the guy hurt.
brendan schaub
He hurt him and then just saw blood and was like, fuck it.
Doesn't have the experience.
bryan callen
So he came in and...
joe rogan
He's 22 and he thought he could just smash that guy.
And he hurt him.
brendan schaub
Which it looked like he was going to.
joe rogan
It looked like he was going.
And he probably would have if he fought technical.
But he abandoned ship.
brendan schaub
Experience is price.
bryan callen
He got caught in a clinch and this kid had him here and he was hitting himself.
joe rogan
Well, the kid hit him to the body twice in Corralston, and he clipped him on the chin with a perfect punch.
Perfect right hand.
I mean, his neck snapped.
His fucking head spun around.
I mean, it was perfect.
He was out cold before he went down.
And on the way down, he clipped him two more times.
And then one more time when he was down.
brendan schaub
I gotta buy a dunix.
All right, both of you.
bryan callen
Listen, all three of you.
I gotta go to my rap party.
I love all of you.
Happy birthday to me.
Come see me in Austin.
joe rogan
You're gonna miss the Fedor, bro.
bryan callen
The end of the week in January 31st.
brendan schaub
Fedor's next.
Fedor's next.
bryan callen
I gotta go.
brendan schaub
January 31. It's going to be a quick fight.
Are you sure you don't want to just stay for the first round?
joe rogan
It's definitely not going to go more than one round.
brendan schaub
Nope.
bryan callen
Brendan and Joe are going to open for me.
joe rogan
Brian, I'll open for you, but you've got to stay here right now.
bryan callen
And Jamie's going to be there too recording it.
joe rogan
Jamie doesn't record.
He has a filling in his tooth that hurts when he records things.
brendan schaub
Dude, Aaron Pico right now is going, what the fuck?
bryan callen
I feel bad for him, man.
joe rogan
I don't think he totally understands even what happened.
brendan schaub
I still think he's going to be a world champ.
I still think he'll figure it out.
joe rogan
Me too.
He certainly could.
Anything can happen.
brendan schaub
He just needs to fucking...
The game plan.
joe rogan
You gotta fight technically always.
And there's moments where you have to open yourself up.
But the guys who do it correctly...
I'm gonna give you a perfect example.
Stylebender.
That motherfucker, when he gets you hurt, he goes after you correctly.
brendan schaub
He doesn't rush in.
joe rogan
He keeps his hands up.
eddie bravo
He could have took him down immediately.
brendan schaub
That's the fucking thing.
joe rogan
That just smashed him.
eddie bravo
His jiu-jitsu's good.
He knows how to pass and smash.
There's no way you're going to get knocked out from the mount.
You can knock a guy out from the mound, but he can't knock you out.
Although it has happened once.
joe rogan
Let's talk about great all-time MMA strikers.
Let's talk about Anderson Silva.
Anderson Silva, when he would hurt you, he would take his time.
He would take his time, and he would stay focused.
And if he knew you were fucked up, and he knew he could just walk in and smash you, then he would take advantage of that.
bryan callen
Let's see this.
Watch this.
So now, he uppercuts.
See, boom.
joe rogan
Perfect uppercut.
He gets the guy hurt.
Unbelievable.
He falls back.
But look at this.
He moves towards him like he can't hit him.
Like he can't hurt him.
And look at him.
He just stays in that clinch and Pico's right there when the right hand hits.
Boom.
Because he stood right in front of the guy.
Even when he was getting hit with shots, he never adjusted.
He just was bullying his way forward.
See?
He's bullying his way forward.
I mean, look, he got clipped, and the guy launched a perfect right hand, but my thing is, Pico really shouldn't be standing in front of him right here, flipping a coin.
Okay, because maybe it's heads, maybe it's tails.
eddie bravo
He took the body shot and went upstairs.
joe rogan
Yeah, two to the body and one upstairs.
But my thing is, if you're Aaron Pico, one of the best wrestlers to ever do MMA, why wouldn't you shoot right there?
You've got that guy in a position where he's throwing wild shots.
bryan callen
He wants the knockout.
joe rogan
That GSP's looking for that duck under, right?
GSP's going to duck under a shot, take you down, and then you fuck, he's going to beat you up when you stand back up.
You're going to be bewildered and exhausted.
He's going to hit you again.
He's a young guy, man.
He's a young guy with phenomenal talent.
But this is a lesson...
Take ego and take your personality and take your personal identity out of this and look at this as these are little pieces that are moving around on a board.
And these pieces have properties, they have values, and they have powers, and they have weaknesses.
And if you watch these pieces play out like you're looking at a mathematical algorithm, you realize when there's flaws.
When can it go wrong?
Here's when it can go wrong.
We stand in front of each other and just do this.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It can go wrong for everybody.
Everybody that's ever lived.
Gokhan Saki got knocked out by Khalil Roundtree with a perfect left hand.
Gokhan Saki is one of the greatest kickboxers of all time.
Doesn't mean Khalil's not a great fighter.
bryan callen
He's a very, very high-level fighter.
joe rogan
It's just anybody can get caught.
If you're standing in front of someone...
bryan callen
Your jaw can only take so much pressure.
joe rogan
Especially with those little gloves.
eddie bravo
Think about all the fighters in MMA history that have been known to have rock-solid chins.
All of them have one thing in common.
For a while there...
bryan callen
They never got hurt.
eddie bravo
They never got rocked.
bryan callen
Right.
eddie bravo
For a while.
So like, damn, he's got a great chin.
He's never been rocked and he's been hit solid.
Right?
unidentified
Right.
eddie bravo
So we know that guy has a solid chin.
It's probably going to fall apart later...
bryan callen
You only get so many of those knockouts.
eddie bravo
But you know already, with Pico, he got rocked in his first fight.
brendan schaub
And in this fight, he got rocked, obviously.
joe rogan
He got knocked out.
eddie bravo
So we know now that, damn, he's not going to be known to have the ultimate chin, for sure.
joe rogan
I think he was hurt already.
I think he was hurt, and even though he's moving in for the kill, I think he'd been tagged a few times in the mix there.
Who?
Pico.
bryan callen
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think there was punches that landed, and maybe they didn't take him out, and maybe they didn't even make him buckle.
But when you get clipped, have you ever walked into a door, and people don't know you walked in the door, and you can just keep walking, but your head's like, fuck.
Now, imagine if you're in the middle of a fight.
bryan callen
With the earphone, I just bumped into you lightly, and it hurt the motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, that thing shoved right into my earlobe.
bryan callen
And it hurt, though.
joe rogan
It stopped you for a second.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I went, ah!
joe rogan
Like a bitch.
But if you get that many KOs that early in your career, it's not a good sign.
It's dangerous.
brendan schaub
Maybe he's as hard as fuck, too.
That doesn't help either.
I got boxing sparring against Kodo at his age?
joe rogan
It could be.
Yeah.
I mean, those things are accumulating.
eddie bravo
Luckily for Pico, he's such an amazing wrestler that he can actually...
He has the choice to go, you know what?
I could...
Go to my next fight and the next fight after that and just trade fucking blows.
It's like Russian roulette.
You could do that.
You could keep doing that.
Or you could just play it safe and go, you know what?
I'm going to use my wrestling to take this motherfucker down, mount his ass, and Khabib these motherfuckers.
brendan schaub
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Bye, Brian.
brendan schaub
One round, dude.
One round.
joe rogan
It's going to happen right now.
unidentified
It's your birthday.
eddie bravo
One round.
joe rogan
It may be ten minutes.
Save for ten more minutes.
brendan schaub
Dude, one round.
Guys, when you're the life of the party, you're with me.
joe rogan
But you're the life of the party when you get there anyway.
This party's going to go on forever.
I bet most of the cool people aren't even there yet.
brendan schaub
Dude, the main stars aren't there, B. Fader!
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Come on!
brendan schaub
It's his last fight ever.
joe rogan
It's his last fight!
Come on!
brendan schaub
It's his last fight ever.
joe rogan
He's fighting Ryan better.
brendan schaub
No, you got to stay, dude.
joe rogan
All right.
We love you, man.
brendan schaub
Love you, dude.
joe rogan
Happy birthday, brother.
brendan schaub
Happy birthday, dude.
joe rogan
Happy birthday.
unidentified
Thank you.
I love all you guys.
bryan callen
52, huh, kids?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Here's the 52 more.
joe rogan
Eddie, I think what you just said is very important.
I think what you said is very important, and this was a really interesting thing that happened.
eddie bravo
There's just two choices.
Keep doing what you're doing, or go Khabib style.
joe rogan
But this is really interesting what just happened.
Well, there's three choices.
One is mix both of them up like GSP. The thing about GSP that's so interesting is it wasn't just Khabib style.
It was who knows what's going to happen.
eddie bravo
Who knows if he's jabbing.
brendan schaub
GSP was safe.
eddie bravo
The only reason he was striking is because you just can't go in there at the bell and take a guy down.
You gotta set it all up.
So he was always just setting it all up.
He was throwing jabs, setting shit up.
But the number one mission in his mind was to take his opponent down and play it safe and mount him and pound him on the ground.
joe rogan
Correct.
You fought a guy that you could take down.
But that wasn't the blueprint with Josh Koscheck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was.
joe rogan
And that was the blueprint with Johnny Hendricks.
brendan schaub
With Josh Koscheck, he jabbed the shit out of him.
And then double-liked him.
eddie bravo
I think he tries to take everybody down.
I think he tries to take every fucking body down.
joe rogan
GSP? But he didn't take Hendricks down.
eddie bravo
Not because he didn't try.
Johnny Hendricks is hard to take down.
brendan schaub
He tried a few times, but he wasn't successful.
Josh Koscheck, the game plan was literally to get him to move forward so you double-liked him.
joe rogan
I remember when he was holding on to...
eddie bravo
I would say 99% of GSP's fights are designed to take the fight to the ground.
brendan schaub
They got real boring too, let's be honest, fellas.
joe rogan
But he also fought an intelligent way of fighting.
There was no way he could win.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying it's not intelligent.
As far as entertainment...
GSP's one of the greatest fighters ever.
eddie bravo
He'll fuck up a pay-per-view.
brendan schaub
That was fun.
eddie bravo
He'll blow up a pay-per-view.
joe rogan
For sure.
How could he look against Bisping?
brendan schaub
Look great.
joe rogan
Phenomenal.
brendan schaub
He's in LA right now training with Freddie.
And they said he's real thin too, looking at a 55 fight.
unidentified
Wow.
eddie bravo
And even though Khabib does stand a lot and play on his feet a lot, his main objective is to take a motherfucker down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
That's the main, that's number one.
But he will fuck around and throw some strikes.
joe rogan
Why are they still talking about a Floyd Mayweather fight?
brendan schaub
It's embarrassing.
I don't know what the fuck they're doing.
joe rogan
He was just talking about it.
brendan schaub
I know.
He goes, I have three fights left if it's up to me.
It's Tony, GSP, and fucking Floyd Mayweather.
When I hear that, I want to throw up.
joe rogan
But what do you think?
He just wants all that giant paycheck?
brendan schaub
Just money and get the fuck out?
joe rogan
Do you think he thinks he can beat him?
Because he's such a savage.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they do.
He might think he can beat him.
They don't think Floyd can knock him out?
They're in for a rude awakening.
joe rogan
Well, he could certainly batter you.
brendan schaub
Maybe he lasts all 12, but he'd get battered the fuck up.
joe rogan
It'll be awful.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but Khabib, I mean, it's a great payday.
joe rogan
If it's only boxing, it's going to be awful.
brendan schaub
If that's what you want to do, get paid, dude.
I'd much rather see him fight GSP. Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
But I don't think it's, I mean, it's a terrible move for him to fight Floyd.
Floyd would just, look, Floyd is the best boxer, maybe, of our era, maybe of all time.
I mean, he's undefeated.
brendan schaub
Here's the problem.
The UFC let Conor do that once.
Now he's Conor.
We can barely get him to fight.
He's worth a hundred gigillion dollars.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
And they're like, dude, please fight.
He's like, nah, I make so much money off whiskey and this.
I'll fight when I'm ready.
They're not going to let that ever...
You're never going to see that again.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
I don't think you're ever going to see that.
joe rogan
You're crazy.
They made money off that too.
It's going to keep happening.
eddie bravo
It's going to keep happening as much as it can.
It's going to happen more than ever now.
Now that the Fertittas don't own the UFC and now this corporation owns it, now everyone is thinking about themselves.
brendan schaub
Not all Dana's at the helm.
No way.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
brendan schaub
I'm saying that Conor has so much leverage now where it's not a good thing.
joe rogan
So you think they're going to not make someone a giant star who could be a giant star because they're worried that person's going to have leverage?
brendan schaub
No, they'll make him a giant star in the UFC. They're not going to let him jump over and do a co-promotion with Floyd Mayweather again.
eddie bravo
Maybe put that in the contract.
brendan schaub
And if you think they keep doing it, who else would they do it with?
joe rogan
That's the better question.
Here's the thing.
If they had another Conor, they'd do it the same way.
It's a way to make money.
It's a smart way to make money.
It was a fun fight.
We watched it.
It's an education.
It's an education for people that appreciate martial arts.
Because you really got to understand what a world-class, top-of-the-food chain, maybe the best-of-all-time boxer does to an MMA fighter.
brendan schaub
And you think we're going to pay for it?
The general audience can keep paying for that.
joe rogan
I'm not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is, it was good for the sport, and if someone comes along that's different, someone comes along, it's not Floyd, it's someone else, and the same situation arises again, and there's another opportunity to make a shitload of money, they're going to do it again.
How many times can you do it with Floyd?
Floyd's 40 years old.
He probably doesn't want to do it that many more times.
The only thing that would fuck Floyd up is his extravagant spending.
brendan schaub
Isn't it a bad look for MMA too?
So let's say Floyd's 27 at this point.
And he's one of the greatest.
And we go, here's Conor.
Smokes him.
Here's Khabib.
Smokes him.
Here's Stylebender.
Smokes him.
At what point is UFC like, this is a bad look, man.
Our guy's getting fucking torched.
joe rogan
It depends on whether or not it's obvious that they had no chance.
With Conor, the interesting thing is, he landed a couple of shots, and you go, okay, if this guy could take this guy down, or even just kick his legs, if Conor could just kick his legs, it would be a wash.
And it's interesting to watch someone even fail against someone who's way better at their sport.
The real question is, are you ever going to see a world-class boxer?
By the time we saw James Toney, he had been really late in the game.
When Vince Phillips fought Masato in K-1, he was late in the game.
They were on their way out looking for money, right?
brendan schaub
Afterthoughts, yeah.
joe rogan
Right, afterthoughts.
For the most part.
For the most part.
Do you ever think you're going to see a...
A Crawford step into MMA. A Lomachenko step into MMA in their prime.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
Why would you?
They're making so much money.
joe rogan
I know.
brendan schaub
Because if they're at that level, they're making so much money.
eddie bravo
And why would you risk going into the UFC? Think about in 50 years how awesome that poster is going to be of Conor and Floyd.
Think about how classic.
You're going to frame that shit.
You're going to be 90 and it's going to be framed in a little bit.
brendan schaub
And I have that shit.
I have the official one.
joe rogan
Joe Louis, Max Schmeling.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Or Muhammad Ali Inoki.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
eddie bravo
Can you imagine having that poster in your living room?
brendan schaub
See, I'm all good on that.
See, I saw that.
It was a great spectacle.
I love watching it.
I'm glad it killed the pay-per-views.
I'm out, man.
If someone else does it, it's not as fun, I don't think.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
So, if someone else comes along, and the same person wants to find her.
brendan schaub
I'm saying Khabib and Floyd.
unidentified
I would love that.
joe rogan
That would be awesome.
brendan schaub
Well, you're talking a degenerate.
I watch women in their underwear beat each other.
eddie bravo
Well, then you like it.
joe rogan
Okay, me too.
eddie bravo
You like it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm saying the masses I don't think are.
eddie bravo
Don't worry about the masses.
joe rogan
I don't think you're right.
brendan schaub
Well, that's what the UFC wears.
joe rogan
I think many more people...
If Khabib stepped in and tried to fight Floyd right now...
Right now, if they set it up in two months, I guarantee you it would sell at least a million paper.
brendan schaub
It does better than Conor Floyd.
eddie bravo
And you would like it.
You would watch it and like it.
brendan schaub
No, I'm saying you think it does?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
I don't think it does.
unidentified
Close.
joe rogan
I said a million.
I said it does a million.
brendan schaub
Dude, Khabib Floyd could fight fucking Jamie for a million.
eddie bravo
That would be fucking him!
joe rogan
Do you think he would do a million pay-per-views or more?
eddie bravo
Something like that.
It would be profitable.
brendan schaub
It's Floyd.
He doesn't miss.
joe rogan
Who was Floyd's last...
Was it Pacquiao and then Tim Bradley?
Pacquiao, then Tim Bradley, and then retired, right?
And Pacquiao got the most pay-per-view numbers ever, but then Tim Bradley, if I'm correct...
Only got a few hundred thousand, like 300,000 pay-per-view buys.
unidentified
Yeah, that was a bad fight.
joe rogan
Wasn't that right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
It didn't do well.
So then afterwards, he fights Conor and he gets like two million whatever the fuck it was.
A giant pay-per-view sale.
unidentified
Andre Berto.
joe rogan
Andre Berto.
brendan schaub
Andre Berto, that's right.
joe rogan
So he fought, my apologies, Tim Bradley.
So then he fights Andre Berto.
That only gets 350,000 or something like that, pay-per-view buys.
Then he fights Conor and it's millions of pay-per-views.
If he fought Khabib, it would still be better than fighting any of those other guys.
brendan schaub
Agree 100%.
joe rogan
Bradley.
Say if he had a fight with Bradley.
No one's tuning in.
It's not going to be that many.
brendan schaub
Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayer is probably going to get that again.
joe rogan
That's a big one.
That's a big one.
Especially Manny Pacquiao.
Now, after he beat Broner.
After he knocked out that Australian dude.
brendan schaub
He looked good.
joe rogan
He looked very...
brendan schaub
He lost to an Australian guy.
How old is Pacquiao?
He beat Matisse.
joe rogan
He knocked out Matisse.
brendan schaub
How old is Pacquiao?
40. 40. Okay, he's still good.
Yeah.
I mean, not in his prime, but yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, no disrespect to Jeff Horn either.
I fucked that one up.
brendan schaub
He's a math teacher.
joe rogan
He is a math teacher, right?
Did you see when Crawford fought him?
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
That's when you realize how good Terrence Crawford is.
brendan schaub
That's when you realize he's a math teacher.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Well, you realize Crawford is, if he's not the best in the world, he's top two or three.
brendan schaub
Even Freddie said that.
I asked him, I said, who's the best?
He goes, it'd be tough to go against Crawford right now.
Notice nobody calls Crawford out.
Everyone talks shit to him.
Everyone challenges him.
No one really fucks with Crawford.
joe rogan
He's so good at switching, too.
Switching stances.
eddie bravo
I think Bader's going to take out.
brendan schaub
He doesn't have a good win.
Because of his promotion.
That's what's wrong with Bogdan.
Joshua, Eddie Hearn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Interesting.
eddie bravo
Bader's going to take Fedor out.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
I think Fedor has shown massive signs of chin deterioration.
joe rogan
Well, Bader's in his prime.
I really fully believe that.
I mean, when I saw him beat the shit out of Mitrion and take him down at will, I was like, I am so impressed.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about he starched King Mo in like 30 seconds?
joe rogan
Dude, he's a different guy.
When he moved over to Bellator, too, something happened.
And, I mean, it was almost like he realized, like, holy shit, I'm not even in the UFC anymore.
I gotta really make something here.
When he beat Phil, you know, he's beaten some really good guys, man.
Really good guys?
When you look at him, like everything about him, like technically, the way he's moving, the way he fights.
And he's a good example of what we were talking about earlier.
You don't know what he's going to do.
He's going to take you down.
He's going to strike with you.
He's doing everything and he's mixing everything up.
brendan schaub
And his mentality.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
He's a fucking pro, man.
Here's the other thing he was telling me.
So he was trying to negotiate with Bellator his contract.
This is his last finance contract.
So I went, hold up.
You're going to be a free agent and be a double champ champ?
Because that's, yeah, we're risking that.
Like, holy fuck.
If you own the light heavyweight title and heavyweight title, you're about to get paid.
And I said, oh, how about a super fight with DC? Whoa.
Double champ, double champ.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is, although he's famous in the Bellator circle, how many people know who he is outside of Bellator?
brendan schaub
Well, he fought in the UFC, though, for a long time.
unidentified
Right, but people forget.
brendan schaub
Ultimate fighter winner, bro.
unidentified
People forget.
joe rogan
In terms of pay-per-view buys, people forget.
They need to see you there.
If they don't see you there, they go, where's he been?
brendan schaub
You don't think you can sell double champ versus double champ?
joe rogan
You can sell it if you're willing to acknowledge Bellator.
They never have.
They never acknowledged Fedor.
They never acknowledged when we was fighting in Pride.
They literally didn't even want me to say Pride.
They don't want to acknowledge other organizations.
Especially back then because Pride fucked them over.
Remember they had that whole sneaky deal like they gave him Chuck Liddell and Vanderlei is supposed to come over here and then they reneged.
It was a disaster.
brendan schaub
Shady shit.
joe rogan
And I was still, as a person who's a martial arts commentator, you have to bring up Fedor.
You had to bring up Vanderlei.
You had to bring up a lot of the people that were making big noise over in Japan.
And he was one of them.
brendan schaub
It'd be cool if they had opened up so we could see who's the absolute best in the world.
joe rogan
Bader is really good, man.
He's really good.
And I would be very curious to see how much better he's gotten.
Because sometimes guys turn a corner, and then all of a sudden they just become the best.
brendan schaub
It's tough to tell against Bader.
His opposition right now, because Mitrion, right?
He was never a world beater in the UFC. I mean, he was in a top five guy.
You know what I'm saying?
He was never a contender, really.
And then Phil Davis, though.
Phil Davis is a guy who beat a lot of fucking good people.
joe rogan
And Phil's another one who looked better once he got to Bellator.
He looked better.
He turned a corner as well.
When there's a new chapter in your life like that, you've got to rise to the occasion.
brendan schaub
And then King Mo off the older in his career.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And then Fedor old as shit in his career.
So it's like, I don't know where Bader's at.
They're great wins, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And at light heavyweight, he would keel right now in the UFC. There's nobody.
joe rogan
I'd be heavyweight.
brendan schaub
Once Bellator stars started signing with the UFC, like with Chandler and Alvarez.
eddie bravo
Not Chandler, Alvarez.
Yeah, Alvarez.
Once they started going that way, and now Ben Askren.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
You can't say shit about Bellator no more.
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
You're trying to take...
When Bellator fighters are being signed to UFC based on their stardom, Bellator's legit as fuck.
brendan schaub
Oh, super legit.
Especially certain weight classes.
joe rogan
Rory McDonald, for sure, one of the best on the planet.
He beat Woodley.
Yeah, he beat Woodley.
I mean, Mousasi is absolutely one of the best on the planet.
Chandler has beaten Alvarez.
Alvarez is one of the best on the planet.
Chandler is one of the best.
unidentified
Do you think he'll ever go to the UFC? They treat him well.
joe rogan
He likes being over there.
brendan schaub
Here's an argument too.
Ben Henderson, UFC, world class.
Comes the Bellator.
It's been a struggle.
It's been a struggle.
joe rogan
Well, he fought Koroskov, which I don't think was the right move.
brendan schaub
Terrible idea.
joe rogan
Terrible idea.
The weight class is not his weight class.
He's a 55-pounder.
brendan schaub
And I love Ben, a friend of mine, but he doesn't look like the same Ben that competed against Frankie Edgar and those guys.
joe rogan
That's true, but you have to remember that he's been fighting world-class competition forever.
So has Eddie Alvarez, though.
Yes.
Yes.
True.
And he crossed over.
Yes, but...
Eddie Alvarez was later.
He came along, his career was hard and rough, but it was later in the time period than Ben.
brendan schaub
Underground King, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Henderson was like WEC, right?
The Showtime kick.
brendan schaub
That's right, the Showtime kick.
joe rogan
You've got to remember, he was the champ back then.
Great career, yeah.
Pettis takes his title with that crazy kick to close out WEC. They go over to the UFC. He fights everybody.
He fought so many fucking tough guys.
So many guys.
He got stopped by Dos Anjos when Dos Anjos was on his up-come.
When Dos Anjos was on the way to the title, that was the big fight.
It was him and Henderson.
He KO'd him.
He was a motherfucker back then.
Dos Anjos, for that time period, there was a time period of like two years where I think Dos Anjos was just a fucking berserker.
Like one of the best lightweights of all time.
brendan schaub
And then, and it's not, I don't know, it could be a coincidence.
Then USADA came.
He went on losing.
No, I'm just, I don't know.
eddie bravo
Well, you know, one thing that'll never change.
brendan schaub
And then when to 70, he's a fucking monster at 70. He's not as good at 70 as he is at 55. He's fucking good at 70, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the guys like Kamaru Usman.
brendan schaub
It's going to be a problem for him.
joe rogan
The guys like Kobe Covington.
eddie bravo
He's a little undersized.
joe rogan
Yes.
The big, strong wrestlers are giving him a hard time.
eddie bravo
Two fights.
No matter what fighters go from Bellator to the UFC or UFC to Bellator, no matter what, in that debate, the one One thing that will never change is the level of prestige in the belts.
Like the UFC belt.
unidentified
Dude, the UFC belt will always be king.
eddie bravo
No matter what.
No matter what.
brendan schaub
Because you have to go through a tougher road to get that belt.
joe rogan
Also, it's not even like saying A and B. It's like saying A and F. There's so many separations between the Bellator belt and the UFC belt.
eddie bravo
When you're talking about the prestige, that's for sure.
joe rogan
But when you're talking about talent, Douglas Lima, in my opinion, is one of the best fucking welterweights on the planet Earth.
Rory McDonald, who beat him in a very close decision, one of the best welterweights on Earth.
Gegard Mousasi is one of the best middleweights on the fucking planet.
These are all realities, man, for anybody who understands MMA. But yeah, the belt's just different.
brendan schaub
You don't crawl through the same shit that you'd have to if you were in the UFC. A UFC champ?
Dude, you better be...
You're the best.
You're hands down the best.
joe rogan
At 55?
You walk away, you know, Chuck Liddell is always going to be a former UFC champion.
Hoyce Gracie, UFC champion.
They beat three guys.
Champions.
UFC. It means more.
It's always going to mean more.
It's like Q-tips.
I don't want cotton swabs.
It's easier to get...
eddie bravo
It's easier to get signed to the UFC and fight in the prelims than to go from the prelims to the main card.
That's way harder than getting in.
brendan schaub
To get in, yeah.
eddie bravo
To get on the fucking main card, you know how hard that is?
joe rogan
Unless you're a 145-pound woman.
Then they'll let you right in.
eddie bravo
Yeah, exactly.
brendan schaub
And probably fight for a title.
eddie bravo
Or you're a WWE superstar.
joe rogan
Who do they have Cyborg fight now?
If Amanda Nunez decides to take time off of fighting at Featherweight after she knocks out Cyborg, who do they have Cyborg fight?
Megan Anderson.
brendan schaub
Megan, she won her fight.
joe rogan
But how crazy is the way she won?
A toe goes in the eye?
brendan schaub
What are you going to do?
I'd rather see that fight.
joe rogan
You know what?
eddie bravo
You've got to have a fight again.
You've got to do a redo right there.
joe rogan
That's what I think.
brendan schaub
Redo, and then just leave Cyborg on the sidelines and not fight her enough?
She gets pissed.
joe rogan
I almost think you need to have a technical foul, an accidental foul, and that's the end of the fight.
Because if it's a foul, if you poke someone, how the fuck is it not a foul if your toe goes in someone's ass?
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
I agree.
It doesn't make any sense.
brendan schaub
They need to fix that.
joe rogan
But at that weight class, If you throw a punch, if you throw a punch, and as you're throwing your right hook, your thumb goes in someone's eye and they stop the fight, they look at the replay, they say it's an eye poke, the referee says it's an eye poke, you get disqualified.
How is that any different than you throwing a round kick and the toe inadvertently goes in your eye?
unidentified
It's not.
joe rogan
It's just stupid.
It's not Megan's fault.
I mean, she did what she was supposed to do.
She was tracking her down, using her range, lands a nice kick, but she caught her at the toe, toe in the eyeball.
brendan schaub
But also, Kat turned her back and waved like, I'm done, I'm done.
joe rogan
She's like, it's over.
But she has to say it's over.
Her fucking eyeballs popped.
eddie bravo
Isn't it weird that there's a shortage of big women?
In MMA! You would think there would be an abundance of that?
Really?
I can't believe they even do it!
brendan schaub
They're all in the WNBA. No one wants to get punched in the face.
eddie bravo
Think about it.
There should be a shortage of 115 pound girls.
There should be a shortage of that.
brendan schaub
No, there's a ton of 150 pound girls.
joe rogan
Dude, if you get like a...
eddie bravo
There's Frank Trick.
joe rogan
Shout out to Frank Trick.
You get Valentina Shevchenko.
unidentified
It's weird.
joe rogan
You get a Valentina Shevchenko.
eddie bravo
There should be a shitload of them.
joe rogan
Eddie, if you get a Valentina Shevchenko or Amanda Nunes or Ronda Rousey, there's like a hundred of those on the earth.
brendan schaub
You think there's a hundred?
joe rogan
No, the ones who could really transition from Kyokushin or kickboxing, Muay Thai.
There's some badass Muay Thai girls, but they might be wrapped up in Muay Thai.
They might be Miriam Nakamoto or something like that.
eddie bravo
Is she ever going to go back to MMA? She's trying.
joe rogan
She's got some injuries, man.
She's like 41, I think.
She's working her way.
unidentified
I'll be working my way back to you, babe.
joe rogan
She's a beast, and as a Muay Thai fighter, she's a monster.
And there's a few of those girls that are that way with MMA or that way with jiu-jitsu.
It's finding them all in MMA. It's less than 100. Dude, but girls, what is it?
brendan schaub
What's the weight class fucking rose fights in?
Tatiana Suarez is the motherfucker.
Tatiana Swartz is such a nightmare.
joe rogan
Rose fights 25 and 15. She fought 25 and lost to Valentina in a good fight.
But Valentina just seems to be stronger, more physically powerful, just a little sharper, a little more suited to 25. She's almost like a tweener.
It's like Joanna's not quite 115, not 125. When you're that little, man, 5 pounds means a lot more than 10 pounds means 185. Dude, Fadar's walkouts are always epic.
Yeah, look at his sneakers.
He just found those somewhere.
eddie bravo
He didn't pay for those, did he?
Somebody gave them.
brendan schaub
He's walked out and put these on.
He can't go barefoot.
joe rogan
They're definitely not Reeboks.
We know that.
What do you think they are?
Sauconies?
brendan schaub
New Balance.
Tom McCann.
unidentified
New Balance.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably not even.
brendan schaub
The TSA New Balances.
joe rogan
He's always got that wooden cross, man.
Kisses it.
Goes through the whole deal.
brendan schaub
Someone in the media asked him if he ever cries and he said once.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Yeah, once I did.
joe rogan
Chopping onions.
That's it.
brendan schaub
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
What do you think?
brendan schaub
If he loses, it's probably last time for him, huh?
joe rogan
You never know, man.
I mean, he might just be, like, really bored with everything else in his life and willing to take the punishment.
This is the real question.
When a guy is as great as Fedor, has had a career that Fedor's had, and still wins every now and then, like knocked out Frank...
Frank Mir.
brendan schaub
Beat Chael Sonnen.
joe rogan
Beat Chael Sonnen.
He still can win, right?
He still can beat good guys and beat real, quality UFC fighters that have transitioned over.
Both those guys.
Chael Sonnen was a quality fighter.
Frank Mir's a quality fighter.
He's a heavyweight champion.
Who's to tell him he can't keep doing this?
This is probably the most fun he ever has.
All day, what does he do?
He doesn't say anything, and he eats ice cream, and he draws pictures.
Give him a chance.
He gets into that cage, and he reignites the fuel inside of him that led him to be, if not the greatest heavyweight in the world of all time, in my eyes.
brendan schaub
Top three.
joe rogan
Top two.
Well, see, the thing is...
brendan schaub
It's all about time period.
joe rogan
It is about time period, but it's also about what happened when they fought.
Fabrizio Verdum's got to be in the argument.
He's got to be, but then so does Stipe.
brendan schaub
Well, you got to do four.
You got to do Kane, Stipe, Verdum, Fedor.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, I think those are the guys.
brendan schaub
I don't need a particular order either.
Those are just the four best.
That's Mount Rushmore of heavyweights.
joe rogan
The argument for Fabricio Verdum is very strong because he beat them all.
brendan schaub
It's a great argument.
joe rogan
But Stipe KO'd him in the first round.
He got reckless and Stipe KO'd him.
And then Volkov KO'd him.
brendan schaub
Dude, to your point with Fedor, you're like, oh, it's cool.
He gets out there.
So you're cool with Liddell and Tito?
Keep doing it?
joe rogan
There's a difference between them, first of all, because Fedor stayed active and I was cool with Tito.
What I was not cool with was Chuck.
It didn't look right.
He didn't look like he was prepared.
Even on the mitts.
I don't know.
He didn't look like he was prepared on the mitts.
I don't know where he's at.
I don't know where he's at physically.
I don't know what damage he sustained.
When I see Fedor fight, he wins or he loses like Mitrion KO'd him.
That was a good fight, though.
It was a good fight.
And I think that shot that Mitrion KO'd him with, he just KOs a lot of people like that.
brendan schaub
Oh, Mitrion touches anyone on the chin you're going to sleep.
joe rogan
He's a fucking super athlete.
brendan schaub
Freak.
Played in the NFL for six years.
joe rogan
And he's so light on his feet and he's fast as fuck.
brendan schaub
He's like a tank.
Dude, he knocked out Derrick Lewis in like 15 seconds with his hip.
joe rogan
He took it to him.
Took it to him.
I don't think it's indicative of Fedor being done.
brendan schaub
Did you see the Maldonado fight though?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
That'll bum me out.
joe rogan
He's not as resilient as he used to be.
Maldonado's an underrated boxer.
Maldonado touched him up.
He's a zombie.
brendan schaub
He's a Brazilian zombie, but he really should be fighting at 170 if he didn't eat all the acai in the world.
And he gave fucking Fedor everything he'd handled.
joe rogan
I think he won that fight.
brendan schaub
I thought he won that fight.
And you know he tried to fucking reverse it in Russia?
They're like, what are you, at your fucking mind?
It's Russia.
No, he won.
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
He's trying to get him to do a...
brendan schaub
Yeah, in Russia.
An official reversal.
Dude, Fedor's best friends with Putin, for fuck's sakes.
You're not getting shit reversed there.
joe rogan
Why are these Marines coming in?
brendan schaub
What's going on?
eddie bravo
Ryan Bader.
joe rogan
National Anthem.
brendan schaub
Bader was in the military.
joe rogan
Oh, they're doing a National Anthem?
unidentified
I don't know why.
joe rogan
Oh, they're doing a Russian National Anthem.
Oh my, they're scaring Fedor with guns.
They brought a gun in the Octagon.
brendan schaub
Dude, Fedor don't give a fuck about a gun.
But how weird is that?
joe rogan
They bring guns into the Octagon.
That is odd, right?
eddie bravo
It's a ritual.
joe rogan
I understand ritual.
brendan schaub
This is not a ritual.
jamie vernon
They got shoes on, too.
joe rogan
Right.
They got shoes on.
brendan schaub
Great point.
Both those things are weird.
There's a lot of shoes in there.
unidentified
I just thought about that when I said it.
joe rogan
What is happening?
Are they going to shoot those guys?
brendan schaub
Well, they do this thing for the troops.
joe rogan
Shot holes through the ceiling.
brendan schaub
I would celebrate that.
But they do a whole thing with giving back to troops and shit.
joe rogan
Is that what they're doing here?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, so he's saying something.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
Check out this guy with the bootcut jeans.
joe rogan
Who's that guy?
Is he singing America, America?
Let me hear this shit.
brendan schaub
Well, they gotta sing Fedors, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, this guy's gonna sing both of them, but he's gonna sing the Rush one all fucked up.
What if he did sing both of them?
How come we can't hear them?
brendan schaub
Oh, shout out to Black Rifle Coffee.
joe rogan
I can't hear anything, Jamie.
unidentified
It's gotta be all the way up, sorry.
brendan schaub
The guy looks like he came out straight up Hot Topic.
joe rogan
We can only hear it if you take your earphones off, Jamie.
I know, I don't have it.
Are you doing that on purpose?
jamie vernon
It's not fed into the show.
joe rogan
Right, but can you make it a little louder?
unidentified
Barely.
joe rogan
Keep going.
There you go.
brendan schaub
Dude, now we have to sit through the Russian one, too?
unidentified
Are you allowed to hear this?
joe rogan
No, it's going to get recorded.
Oh, okay, okay.
Alright, you can kill it.
brendan schaub
Dude, do you think they're going to do the Russian one, too?
That's such a bummer.
It takes so long.
joe rogan
Well, we were talking to your Showtime buddy about that.
Like, why do they still do this with the fights?
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
When Broner and Pacquiao fought and they had to do both anthems.
It takes forever.
It's like ten more minutes.
Look at that star-spangled banner, you motherfucker.
Look at that flag flying in the background.
Do you know who this gentleman is?
Craig Morgan is just a country music artist.
He's got an Apple Watch on.
How dare he?
eddie bravo
That's racist.
joe rogan
He's a veteran.
brendan schaub
As a country dude, he got an Apple Watch on?
joe rogan
Yeah, that seems like I'm not buying it.
I'm not buying it.
brendan schaub
I'm not buying it.
You're faking, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is that an Apple Watch?
That's an Apple Watch.
brendan schaub
Dude, also those fucking Chris Daughtry wristbands he's wearing, that ain't fucking very country either.
joe rogan
Country's a different thing now.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you've seen Florida Georgia Line?
joe rogan
Yeah.
A little bit country, a little bit 21 forever.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a mix.
joe rogan
Forever 21?
brendan schaub
You know what?
And I dig it.
And I dig it.
joe rogan
You like those kinds of pants?
eddie bravo
Yeah, I love that shit.
brendan schaub
Not his pants.
Those bootcuts are awful.
joe rogan
All right, give me some predictions.
brendan schaub
Ryan Bader, TKO, second round, ground and pound.
Wow, TKO. First round.
Jesus, Eddie, give him respect, bro.
eddie bravo
He's going to knock him out in the first round.
brendan schaub
Wow!
TKO? Really?
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Eddie's been on one tonight, though.
joe rogan
You might be right.
eddie bravo
I hate to ruin it for you.
brendan schaub
So calm.
joe rogan
I think if Ryan doesn't respect Fedor, he can get cracked.
That's still real.
brendan schaub
Here's the thing about Bader, too.
eddie bravo
Bader?
brendan schaub
Bader.
I'm high.
I'm so high.
Remember in his big fights, he lost to Rumble Johnson, Jon Jones.
A lot of the big moments, he gets caught up sometimes.
Johnson, he shot a bad shot, and he bounced his head to the moon.
joe rogan
So this is the finals of their heavyweight tournament that would make Ryan Bader be the heavyweight champion of the world.
Champ champ.
brendan schaub
And he owns a light heavyweight one right now, too.
Yeah.
What's up, Jon Jones trying to run it back, bro?
That was years ago.
Why are you bringing up bold shit, as Eddie says.
Why are you bringing up bold shit?
Let's run it back.
joe rogan
Is that what he said?
brendan schaub
Nope, that's what I'm saying.
eddie bravo
Terrible fighters like that champ champ shit, right?
That's how you get paid, bro.
brendan schaub
Connor started it, and now fucking everyone wants to do it.
joe rogan
Well, there's a few guys that can pull it off.
unidentified
It's a good thing.
eddie bravo
I like that.
brendan schaub
I love it.
It ties up the division, so it gets a little messy, but...
unidentified
I'd love to see Khabib at 70, and Woodley's going to 85. TJ still has the belt at 35, right?
Yes, correct.
joe rogan
He still has a 35-pound belt.
brendan schaub
So who's going to go up there?
joe rogan
I ain't mad at that.
Here's the thing.
I really believe this.
I think if some...
This is an egregious error, and there's a fight that stopped prematurely.
I think you should almost put it up to the vote of the internet.
I really do.
brendan schaub
Oh, no.
eddie bravo
Are you at your goddamn...
Let the internet decide?
It's a popular vote.
joe rogan
Yes.
eddie bravo
Popular vote, didn't you say most people, like, 70% of the population are dummies?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Right?
60?
joe rogan
It's like 80. It's about 80, right?
eddie bravo
So why the fuck would we ever want to popular vote anything?
joe rogan
Okay, but listen, how about we have...
brendan schaub
That's insane.
joe rogan
How about we have an organization of esteemed ladies and gentlemen...
An organization of maybe 200 accepted martial artists, world-class martial artists, people that...
eddie bravo
The committee of 100. Yeah, 100 people.
joe rogan
If you have 100 people, you're going to get the decision right every time.
unidentified
I agree.
brendan schaub
That's a great idea.
So much better than the internet trolls voting.
joe rogan
John Hacklemans and John Donahers and Ferasa Hobbies and Duke Rufus and Matt Humes and Mike Winklejohns and Trevor Whitman.
And you've got a committee of those.
eddie bravo
And you've got a committee of those.
Yes.
joe rogan
If you had all those people in like a database and they all put in their opinion, you would be 100% probably in agreement.
brendan schaub
Especially if they're experts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
All right, here we go.
Fedor looking stoic as fuck.
brendan schaub
I'm kind of nervous for Ryan.
joe rogan
Well, it's a scary fight, man.
He's fighting Fedor, bro.
brendan schaub
Here it goes.
And he comes out the gate.
You know, as he's older, he definitely doesn't give a fuck anymore.
He just wants to take your head off.
Second round, not on my watch, bro.
joe rogan
Look at him.
He's looking for that hammer.
Look at that right hand.
Fedor's just got that left hand loose and that right hand balled the fuck up.
brendan schaub
Dude, I didn't think Pico was ever going to lose again, so I don't know what's going to happen.
joe rogan
Hey, man, anything can happen.
It's still one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
And Ryan Bader is a better fighter than he's ever been.
And really slick, man.
He's smart.
He's smart in his approach.
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
That's him!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, Ryan Bader!
brendan schaub
What's up, bro?
joe rogan
That was beautiful!
brendan schaub
What did I tell you?
joe rogan
One shot!
eddie bravo
I told you!
joe rogan
Dude!
Holy shit, his left hook!
brendan schaub
Fucking Eddie!
Called it, dude.
joe rogan
Dude, he's got a sneaky left hook.
It's like almost a jab.
brendan schaub
Dude, think about what he's done this fucking tournament.
Start Lockdown King Moe, beat Mitrione, Fuckin' I just starch fuckin' Fedor.
No one starches Fedor.
eddie bravo
Dude, he busted his eye open too.
joe rogan
Dude, he fucked him up.
And it was a weird left hook.
It was almost like it looked like it started out as a jab and then turned over at the end.
brendan schaub
That Arizona State left hook?
joe rogan
Like how Rose knocked out Ioana.
brendan schaub
Correct, sir.
joe rogan
Yes.
I want to see that.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
Call that the top shelf.
unidentified
Goddamn.
brendan schaub
That's where Grandma keeps the cookies, Eddie.
eddie bravo
I'm trying to tell you guys.
You guys don't listen.
brendan schaub
Top shelf, huh?
joe rogan
Damn.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
Let's watch this.
joe rogan
Watch this left hand.
unidentified
Boop!
brendan schaub
Look at this.
joe rogan
It's almost like a jab.
brendan schaub
He dropped the shoulder down.
It almost looked like he was going to fake the single.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that again.
eddie bravo
Boop!
unidentified
Bing!
joe rogan
So crazy.
brendan schaub
Good for him.
joe rogan
Get down!
unidentified
Boom!
eddie bravo
Get down!
joe rogan
That's a good stopper.
That's a good stopper.
He touched two shots.
Gosh!
unidentified
Yeah, boom!
eddie bravo
That was almost like that Dan Anderson Bisping shot.
That extra shot.
joe rogan
Do you think that's evident?
Watch this again.
Is that evidence that Fedor just can't take a shot or is it a perfect punch?
Or is it both?
brendan schaub
I think it's both.
eddie bravo
I think it's more.
He's also 40. It's a little bit of that.
joe rogan
It's a little bit of both.
But damn, that's a perfect punch.
He dropped his shoulder down almost like he was going to jab to the body.
Right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it looked like almost a shot jab.
eddie bravo
Bam!
brendan schaub
Dude, Fedor's about to get...
unidentified
Paid!
joe rogan
So what happens now?
brendan schaub
He's a free agent.
They gotta pay the man.
joe rogan
Wow.
Look at the heavyweight KOs.
brendan schaub
Light heavyweight champ.
joe rogan
KOs Fader with a left-right.
Shout out to Ryan Bader.
Fuck yes.
brendan schaub
Congratulations, sir.
joe rogan
Man.
Is part of you sad to watch Fader get cracked like that?
No.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Well, just because I'm up.
Bader's my buddy.
eddie bravo
I told you guys.
You guys wouldn't listen.
brendan schaub
You did call it, dude.
joe rogan
Eddie's texting everybody.
brendan schaub
You ain't tweeting that right now.
joe rogan
He's texting everybody.
Told you, bitch.
brendan schaub
Told you, motherfuckers.
eddie bravo
No, at a certain point, you just can't take shots.
joe rogan
You just can't.
eddie bravo
You get hit.
brendan schaub
That was a nice shot, but it didn't appear to me that it was the...
eddie bravo
Heaviest shot ever.
joe rogan
I hate to say I told you so to anybody, but to young fighters, this kind of shit is what I'm always trying to point out.
Don't get caught up in the moment.
Don't get caught up in wars.
Because every one of those will eventually, there's going to come a time when that credit card bill is going to come.
And you got all these charges, and you don't have the money anymore.
You're going to have to pay eventually.
There's no way around it.
And if you fight a smart, calculated fight, like who the fuck gets hit the least in MMA? You could definitely say Askren.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy, Stylebender.
joe rogan
Askren.
unidentified
Askren.
joe rogan
Well, Wonderboy's been dropped twice by Woodley.
brendan schaub
Demetrius Johnson at the highest level, but for a long time he's hard to hit.
joe rogan
I think Askren's probably the number one, but he's never fought anybody at the caliber of the UFC, like in their prime.
He's gonna now.
We're gonna find out.
But just avoid it.
Whatever you can do.
brendan schaub
Again, Jon Jones really doesn't take damage either.
He's so calculated and just such a fucking beast.
For the young fighters, too, the other thing is you do all that work in the gym.
All that work.
and you have these advantages.
Those even out when you're playing rock'em, sock'em.
Then all that game plan, your coaches, you're disrespecting them because now it's level playing field.
Whoever lands first, it's fucking idiotic.
joe rogan
Cyborg versus Nunes.
brendan schaub
Yes, there you go.
joe rogan
Same thing.
brendan schaub
Didn't respect the game.
joe rogan
Thought she could just steamroll her.
Walked towards her.
She was going to blow her out of the water.
Pinned her up against a cage.
And Nunez ca-ca-ca-rapped her.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
And that's what happens.
brendan schaub
You learn.
joe rogan
This is one person fighting on a narrative and fighting on emotions and trying to just overwhelm someone.
And the other person responding and catching someone while there's these openings.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Aaron Pico, same thing.
I mean, he was pressing forward, pressing forward, and he gets hit with that fucking haymaker of a right hand.
brendan schaub
Dude, you think that's Fedor's side piece, or is that his translator?
She's with him everywhere.
Translator.
joe rogan
She's the translator.
I'm very impressed.
How can you not be impressed?
brendan schaub
What's next for Bader, though?
eddie bravo
How much did he weigh for this fight?
bryan callen
240?
eddie bravo
240?
brendan schaub
Was he 240?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I think 230. Let's find out.
joe rogan
See if Jamie gets the weigh-in results.
He looks good.
What's he going to do?
He's a solid fucking 230, I'll tell you that.
That's a legit heavyweight.
I mean, he can definitely make 205. 205?
No.
unidentified
I mean, that's what it has here.
brendan schaub
Oh, no, that's right.
joe rogan
See official Bellator weigh-ins.
See if they have it.
brendan schaub
There's his wifey.
joe rogan
He's super pumped, man.
He's a champ champ now.
Scott Coker in the house.
brendan schaub
And he's a free agent.
Bet on himself.
eddie bravo
What is that?
He's the heavyweight Grand Prix champ?
brendan schaub
Is that what that is?
Heavyweight champ.
And light heavyweight.
joe rogan
And light heavyweight.
227. Okay.
So, kind of a light heavyweight.
Kind of light.
Yeah.
Oh, he's got three belts.
What happened there?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
I think he gave him another one.
Have another one, bro, because that was awesome.
brendan schaub
Oh, that one has jewels on it.
That one's better than the UFC belt.
The new UFC belt?
Doo-doo.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I wonder why they changed it.
brendan schaub
Just to mix it up?
joe rogan
But why?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
unidentified
I like the old ones.
brendan schaub
And here's the thing now.
If you're champ, so let's say Tony becomes champ and he gets that belt, they don't give you another belt.
They just add another stone to it.
Budget cuts.
joe rogan
Was it real?
brendan schaub
That's the word.
That's the rumor.
You don't get a new belt.
They just add stones to your belt.
joe rogan
I swear to God, I would negotiate that in my contract.
brendan schaub
You've got to give me another fucking belt.
joe rogan
I want the old belt.
I want a legacy belt.
brendan schaub
Those old belts are so sick.
Best belt of all time.
Maybe I just don't like change, but I look at them like, God, that looks like we went a step back.
joe rogan
It's like when Porsche went from the 993...
To the 996. Yeah.
Those goofy headlights.
brendan schaub
Those weird lights.
joe rogan
The long ones.
eddie bravo
Only 1,200 people understand what the hell that means.
brendan schaub
And then Porsche went like this.
Then Porsche went like this.
eddie bravo
1,200.
joe rogan
A lot more.
brendan schaub
But you know what's great about Porsche?
unidentified
My bad.
brendan schaub
My bad.
Let's round them up again.
You guys like those?
We'll round them up again.
UFC goes, fuck that.
You guys are going to take this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got an octagon belt motherfucker.
brendan schaub
You love the UFC. Love the UFC, yeah.
Not the belt, though.
joe rogan
How can you not love the UFC? Are belts necessary?
I like them, right?
Of course.
brendan schaub
Look how he did that.
joe rogan
Look how he did that.
Very interesting.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about Fedor didn't throw one punch?
joe rogan
No, he caught him perfect, man.
I want to see that one more.
Watch how he does this.
I really like this.
Dips his left shoulder and loops it in a weird arc, man.
Watch this.
brendan schaub
Boom!
joe rogan
Like half a jab, half a hook.
It was like this, right?
Wasn't it like this?
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
It was like this.
unidentified
Long.
joe rogan
And he caught him at the very end of it.
brendan schaub
I kind of want to hear what he's saying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't think they'll let us.
brendan schaub
What if he gets on there and he's like, DC, you fucking pussy.
eddie bravo
You absolutely suck.
unidentified
John, John, Mr. Pico, come get some.
brendan schaub
Just drops the ultimate fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think he's probably...
If I was him...
brendan schaub
He's real humble.
joe rogan
I think I'd probably say I'm super thankful.
I want to thank my team.
And it was an honor to fight Fedor.
Thanks a lot.
brendan schaub
Now pay me.
joe rogan
I don't think he's going to say that on the mic, man.
He's too smart.
brendan schaub
Pay me.
joe rogan
No, he's really smart.
And, look, good-looking guy.
Articulate.
He's knocking motherfuckers out like Fedor.
I mean, that's a real heavyweight champion.
You want that guy as your champ.
brendan schaub
Dude, he has so many belts on him right now.
And that one has diamonds on him.
joe rogan
Might want to put those down so you could use your hands.
brendan schaub
No, don't, dude.
I'd wrap them all around my neck so I can't see.
joe rogan
Put one on your head like a turban?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And put the other on my face and talk to them like...
eddie bravo
Hey, you guys want to go see Fabrizio Verdun versus Gordon Ryan?
joe rogan
I can't.
I can't go to Mexico.
eddie bravo
No, it's not in Mexico.
It's in LA. We moved it.
brendan schaub
I thought it was in Mexico.
eddie bravo
It's not in LA. When?
Friday, February 22nd.
It's going to be on Fight Pass.
brendan schaub
That's a great fucking fight.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
And Josh Barnett.
It's a four-man tournament.
Josh Barnett, Rustam Chiziev, who fought Gordon Ryan in the finals of EBI 6. That's where Gordon Ryan was born.
He won the absolute of EBI. That was EBI 6. That was his first tournament.
brendan schaub
This is combat jiu-jitsu?
eddie bravo
Combat jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
Barnett's about to slap a bitch.
eddie bravo
So it's Barnett, Rustam, Gordon, Fabricio, four-man tournament.
brendan schaub
That would be sick.
eddie bravo
It's going to be fucking crazy.
joe rogan
It's an amazing tournament.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's going to be crazy, dude.
Because Josh Barnett just got beat by Gordon Ryan, too.
He got triangled.
There could be a rematch there, and Rustam, now he was in the finals, and Gordon beat him in the finals of the absolute EBI 6. So there's two potential rematches alone, but then on top of that, you got Fabricio Verdun versus Gordon Ryan in round one.
brendan schaub
Dude, I think Gordon Ryan is obviously the best thing in jiu-jitsu, but he wants to do MMA too?
With his personality, his skill set, I think he's going to take over MMA too.
He's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Well, it seems like Donaher is guiding him the right way too.
Donaher is telling him, like, you're going to learn how to strike first.
You're not going to go in there without any skills.
brendan schaub
Enjoy that.
joe rogan
You're going to get better at that.
brendan schaub
His jiu-jitsu is going to be, you know...
It's going to be good for him.
eddie bravo
You know what?
He'll do fine because if you watch his last few fights, he likes to mount.
He's not like this big leg locker.
He's an expert at leg locks.
He's got that whole system down.
But he likes to mount, underjack, and get arm triangles.
And that's perfect for MMA. Arm triangles in MMA, that's one of the...
You have to be a savage with arm triangles if you're fighting MMA. Plus his personality.
brendan schaub
He's a star.
He's a star.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he's a handsome kid.
He's got a 28-pack.
brendan schaub
Tattoo on his chest.
Tattoo on his chest.
joe rogan
Might have the most ridiculous six-pack of all time.
Him and Wiz Khalifa should have a six-pack off.
brendan schaub
Dude, Wiz Khalifa is the size of this might.
He doesn't count.
It's true.
joe rogan
It doesn't count, but he's got a ridiculous six-pack.
brendan schaub
It's like saying that the starving kids in Africa are shredded.
eddie bravo
Are you guys going to be in town Friday, February 22nd?
joe rogan
Dude, I think I'm in town.
brendan schaub
If I'm in town, I'm 100% there.
eddie bravo
Mike Tyson's going to be there.
You know, he's part sponsor.
unidentified
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
His reach...
eddie bravo
Well, the guy that's his partner in that owns Copper Gel.
joe rogan
Yeah, they gave me some of that.
eddie bravo
Yeah, so Copper Gel is sponsoring.
joe rogan
That stuff is legit.
brendan schaub
That's a CBD. Look at him.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Look at his six-pack.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not lying.
brendan schaub
No, I know he's shredded, but you compare him to Wiz Khalifa.
joe rogan
Wait, you see Wiz Khalifa.
brendan schaub
No, but he doesn't count.
unidentified
Stop.
joe rogan
Stop and give the man his propers.
eddie bravo
Let's see Wiz.
joe rogan
Wiz Khalid.
Show me that one with his super...
No, no, no.
Not like Wiz.
No, Wiz has muscles.
Like thick ass.
brendan schaub
He got in that TRT program?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
Look at him.
Seriously!
eddie bravo
Holy shit!
joe rogan
I told you bitches!
eddie bravo
Damn!
joe rogan
I told you bitches!
eddie bravo
He's got a three pack, but they're like jumbo.
He's bodied up.
joe rogan
But they don't separate in the middle.
That's a solid six pack.
They're so dense.
All he's doing is Muay Thai.
He does Muay Thai like crazy.
Put on 30 pounds of weight.
brendan schaub
The Muay Thai do that to you.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta go to the right taco shop for lunch.
brendan schaub
Fuck.
joe rogan
He is fucking good.
Yeah, but Gordon Ryan's is even more impressive.
And also, Gordon Ryan is 230 pounds.
brendan schaub
And he doesn't have to go chocolate body.
You can consider that.
joe rogan
That's true.
What does he weigh now?
eddie bravo
He's probably 225 now.
joe rogan
Didn't he do something crazy and get down at like 170, like just within a year or two ago for a tournament?
eddie bravo
Well, yeah, he used to be, he used to fight at 170. That's crazy.
Yeah, and then he decided to bulk up.
joe rogan
How many picos?
brendan schaub
All of them?
No comment.
Who's testing?
joe rogan
Nobody's testing.
brendan schaub
That's the thing, though.
If you've got Picos and you're USADA, you're good.
joe rogan
Here's the thing.
If you are a young guy and you're indulging in various ways to enhance your physical recovery, and then you get off of that stuff, you're going to have an adaptation period.
And that adaptation period, I mean, this is an issue.
brendan schaub
Hold on.
Why is it an issue, Joe?
It's not an issue.
joe rogan
Well, the issue is your performance is going to suffer.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're saying if you get off it.
joe rogan
If you're on it and you get off of it, he's a young guy, if he's on it.
We're assuming he's on it.
We don't know.
brendan schaub
Gordon?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What would you say?
He could just have phenomenal genetics.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
All jokes aside, if you do find someone, though, not him, let's say someone else.
Let's say he just has phenomenal genetics.
brendan schaub
Take anybody else, yeah.
joe rogan
Someone else that does it.
If they do do it, and they're doing it in an untested form, like submission grappling.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't you do it if you're on that?
You can get away with whatever you want.
Correct, Eddie?
There's no testing.
eddie bravo
General.
brendan schaub
You guys test like them.
joe rogan
Speaking completely honestly, we know for a fact that some competitors are indulging.
eddie bravo
I don't know that.
brendan schaub
I would say yes.
eddie bravo
I'm sure some are.
joe rogan
We know for sure some are.
I don't want to accuse any individuals, but we know for sure some are.
When you do have that situation where someone is on something and then they get off of something, then you have this adaptation period where their body's not producing testosterone as much anymore.
They're going to have to get on something else in order to kickstart it back up.
brendan schaub
But he can do that.
joe rogan
He can do that.
brendan schaub
But here's the thing, too.
You know, with this John Jones thing and the picogram thing, and he did test positive now with Vada, right?
And they still allow him to fight.
Well, now, let's say you are a jutsu guy who comes to the UFC, and you did do stuff prior, and those picograms get flagged?
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
What do you do?
joe rogan
It depends entirely on what you're doing.
brendan schaub
It depends entirely on who you are, Joe.
joe rogan
Well, no.
With USADA, it does not.
It depends entirely on what you're doing.
Now, in terms of whether or not you get punished twice for the same crime...
So if they can prove exactly the same way they proved with John, one of the things that's happening is that the testing is getting far better.
So they can test you for stuff now that a year ago was absolutely impossible.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
So the threshold right now that they were saying, this is where it's confusing to me, the threshold that they tested John was supposed to be more stringent than VADA. Yes, and then the night of the fight, this is where it gets weird to me.
brendan schaub
The night of the fight, the commission tested them, all the same period, same piss.
Commission, USADA, and VADA all tested them, same piss.
USADA didn't report anything.
Commission didn't report anything, right?
Andy Foster cleared them to fight.
But then VADA did.
joe rogan
Does VADA have better testing now?
brendan schaub
It's all the same.
joe rogan
So how's that possible?
So you think shenanigans?
brendan schaub
With USADA, yes.
I think it's shenanigans.
Here's the other thing, Joe.
Here's what no one talks about.
With USADA in the rule book, no matter if it's Picos, whatever it is, if you get flagged, it doesn't matter if it's from residue, whatever it is, you cannot compete until that is out of your body.
That's the rule book.
Black and white.
It doesn't say, well, if it's picograms, you're still good.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Right, but do you understand that he's not testing positive for the actual steroids?
brendan schaub
Again, that doesn't matter.
joe rogan
It's a metabolite.
brendan schaub
But in the rule book, it doesn't say that.
joe rogan
Is that what it says?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it says, if you test pod, regardless what it is, we cannot grant you the license to compete.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Which is interesting to me.
Now, I'm not saying they should.
This is why they don't suspend.
This is why I honestly think why they're doing this.
Because they don't know exactly how this is happening.
I think they have their theories, which, you know, it works right now.
But ultimately, they don't really know what's going on.
So if they were to suspend John, and he's really not taking shit, he could sue the fuck out of him.
So I think that's what's going on.
joe rogan
Well, there's that, and then there's also this concept of double jeopardy, that they've already punished him for having this stuff in his system.
There's no indication that he has recently taken it.
brendan schaub
That's not the rules though, Joe.
joe rogan
I understand, but they're making the rules up as they go along.
brendan schaub
Which is an issue, because if this was Corey Anderson, phenomenal fighter, not the same drawing power as John, what happens to a guy like that?
That's where it's scary.
joe rogan
What's the argument?
Even if they're making it up as they go along, the parameters are changing.
So the ability to test things is changing.
So if someone takes, say, you take creatine, the creatine is tainted, and you have some forbidden substance in your system, and it's supposed to only stay in your system for six months if it's this certain stuff.
But now the testing gets better.
And so now instead of punishing you for something that you accidentally took and then they test you and they say, oh, we can prove that you accidentally took it, so we're only going to give you a six-month suspension.
But then after the six months is over, they can still test it in you.
brendan schaub
Why?
joe rogan
Because the testing's gotten better.
Well, what do they do now?
Because in the past, they would have said, well, it's time served.
This is the only argument for the John Jones thing that makes sense, is that you don't want to punish a guy for something you've already punished him for if you've proven that this is what he took.
brendan schaub
But the rule book is, you can only compete when you pass the test.
joe rogan
Have you read this rule book?
Yes.
brendan schaub
I had a discussion this morning.
Me and Chael went back and forth on text.
joe rogan
How does Chael feel about this?
What does he think?
brendan schaub
He shouldn't be allowed to compete because it's still showing up.
No matter whether you meant to take it or not, the rule is if you do not pass the test, we can't grant you a license to fight.
That is the rule that is explained to most all the fighters except for John.
joe rogan
The real problem would be is what if it's proven at some point in time, let's just say a big for if, what if rather, what if it's proven one time that they can tell if you've ever taken anything, ever, your whole life?
And they just disqualify anyone forever, even if it's an accidental test.
But if that happens...
brendan schaub
I know.
It's a problem.
You won't have a sport.
joe rogan
This thing is a weird thing.
This pulsating thing of the metabolite, they don't really understand it.
brendan schaub
Here's where it's weird.
It makes no sense with our USADA testing.
The USADA testing, their parameters are based off Olympic testing, right?
Based off suspending guys two to four years.
You know how fucked up that is to do a fighter like Josh Barnett?
So how small is your window?
We're not the Olympics.
It doesn't come every four years.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
It's such a small window.
You suspend these guys for two to four years?
It's fucking silly.
joe rogan
Right, but here's the other question.
What do you do, but if a guy does juice and he hurts someone and gets away with it, and then you catch him, like you've been trying to catch him and then you catch him, how much should you suspend him for?
Say if you got a guy who's...
Hired some Victor Conte type individual back when Victor was doing this with the Clear.
And he hires some guy, and this guy gets him on some shit that no one knows what it is, and he's just running through people.
And he's looking like Yoel Romero and smashing people.
brendan schaub
You mean Vitor Belvoir?
joe rogan
And everybody's like, I don't buy it.
Something's wrong.
And then one day you catch him.
brendan schaub
So you shouldn't have a career ever again?
joe rogan
I don't know what you should do.
brendan schaub
Not four years.
That's ridiculous.
Because we're going based off Olympic curriculum.
joe rogan
The real question is how many people are cheating, right?
And what should the punishment be?
Should it be based on how many people are cheating or should it be based on the philosophy we're trying to get cheating out of the sport?
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Are you ever going to get it out?
eddie bravo
Do you wish that the Japanese were super crazy strict about steroids back before Pride?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
As a fan, no way.
eddie bravo
All those fights wouldn't have happened.
joe rogan
Anderson was making a point the other day, an irrational point, for letting a guy like him take something so that he could recover.
Because he's 40 years old.
He still enjoys fighting.
But his body doesn't produce testosterone the right way anymore.
unidentified
Correct.
brendan schaub
He's been trained.
He's beaten.
They tried that for a while.
eddie bravo
Remember, they made that.
It was legal for a while.
Vitor fucked it all up.
brendan schaub
And Overeem.
Overeem and Vitor, they're like, bro.
I gotta piss.
joe rogan
Overeem didn't have a testosterone use exemption.
Vitor did.
Vitor did it legitimately.
Dan Henderson did it legitimately.
There's a few other guys that did it.
brendan schaub
With Vitor, they're like, alright.
joe rogan
I'm not sure what the doctors know, right?
eddie bravo
You show what the doctors know?
joe rogan
It's way worse.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's way worse.
eddie bravo
They don't test you.
And they didn't let anybody know.
It was totally legal.
Just like insiders knew.
unidentified
Oh, we knew.
eddie bravo
Yeah, like the insiders.
brendan schaub
I remember there was a guy in our gym.
They're like, he got a TRT pass.
We're like...
Fuck, man!
But you have to be kind of a big name.
You have to be in with Dana and Lorenzo.
eddie bravo
You can always be a guy.
If they had big veins on their bicep and on their shoulder they had that little spider vein, you're like, that motherfucker's on TV. We were so jealous, man.
brendan schaub
I was like, I want a TRT exam.
eddie bravo
How do you get it?
Like, you gotta know someone deep inside.
brendan schaub
Oh, you have to be fucking co-op.
eddie bravo
And no one believed it.
It was like a conspiracy theory.
It was like, no way!
They allow it.
He goes, yeah, dude, if you have a doctor's note, you could fucking do TRT. And why not?
And no one would believe it.
It was like, dude, you're full of shit.
It was a tinfoil hat conspiracy.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Now I think the conspiracy's all with USADA. It's been such a shit show.
eddie bravo
It just got exploited and everybody was jumping on that doctor's note.
brendan schaub
With TRT? Yeah.
unidentified
100%.
eddie bravo
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
And then they put a stop to it.
eddie bravo
For a while there, it was fucking legal.
brendan schaub
Sure was.
eddie bravo
How crazy is that?
unidentified
Hell yeah.
brendan schaub
And it was awesome.
eddie bravo
Oh yeah, he had a doctor's mouth.
brendan schaub
But it was awesome.
And now it's two straight and it's fucking things up and guys have to do other shit and they're getting caught.
eddie bravo
How would you like it if you got to be the president of MMA? You were the fucking godfather.
brendan schaub
USADA kick rocks.
It's just making it more complicated.
We'll put the money elsewhere.
eddie bravo
It's obviously not really working.
What do you do about steroid testing?
brendan schaub
I kind of do a how Bellator, yeah.
eddie bravo
How does Bellator do it?
brendan schaub
Just has the commission do it.
What does that mean?
It means you've got to be a moron to get caught by the commission.
So if you're going to do shit, you've got to be clean.
eddie bravo
Wait a minute, I didn't know this.
So if there wasn't a USADA... Each state would have their own...
The commission would be responsible for it.
unidentified
Correct.
eddie bravo
And what is it?
They just don't know how to do them right?
brendan schaub
They don't do it as strict.
You get tested.
They don't do it weeks before.
They don't come randomly.
You get tests when you weigh in or the day of the fight and after the fight.
eddie bravo
And so what did fighters used to do?
They could get it out of their system?
brendan schaub
They could tailor it off, yeah.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
But there were certain states like L.A. or New Jersey were super strict.
So guys like Chael Sonny got caught in California.
What happened to the Keith Brown fight?
Oh, I don't know.
Keith Thurman.
He fought tonight on Fox.
joe rogan
Is that over?
brendan schaub
It should be over.
It started at 6. Maybe not.
joe rogan
Maybe there's some fights on before it.
brendan schaub
There was, but...
unidentified
It's midnight on the East Coast.
joe rogan
Fox has done so.
Keith Thurman, it is?
unidentified
I'll check.
joe rogan
Was it on Fox?
Is that what it was?
Or was it ESPN? It's over?
Who won?
brendan schaub
I'm trying to find...
joe rogan
What'd you guys talk about?
Japanese tweeted your boys back tonight.
Oh, he won?
unidentified
Whoa, hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
brendan schaub
Keith tweeted that?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it retains title.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was a good fight for him, for God's sakes.
Now everyone wants to see him versus Earl Spence.
But Earl Spence fight Mikey Garcia.
eddie bravo
I asked Brendan if he was the king or the president of MMA, what would he do about the steroid situation?
And he said he would get rid of USADA. Correct.
And then have the commission test, which basically means that all you got to do is just be...
It's a stupid idiot test.
brendan schaub
You're still going to do shit, but night of the fight, you're clean.
joe rogan
Night of the fight, you're clean.
eddie bravo
But if you're clean the night of the fight, wouldn't that be a...
brendan schaub
Clean from a piss test.
eddie bravo
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Is that how they used to do it?
brendan schaub
That's how they did it when I fought.
joe rogan
When Alistair fought Brock, he was clean.
You know, he tested clean.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it was a very simple urine test.
It was like Quest Labs type shit.
If you get a job at UPS, they're not checking you for mushrooms.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
So you would just have the commission do it.
joe rogan
It was a better sport then!
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
So that's how Bellator does it.
They just don't really...
joe rogan
Let me ask you this.
Did anybody ever approach you and said, hey man, I think we can get you on some stuff?
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
How do they say it?
brendan schaub
It was like locker room talk.
They're like, oh, I got this guy, dude.
He's great.
He does this, this, this.
I couldn't afford it.
That's how it starts, the fighters.
Or a coach would be like, hey man, you could do this, this.
I couldn't afford it though.
joe rogan
How much were they talking?
brendan schaub
I don't know, because they were going through, like, a doctor, and I just remember, a doctor, I don't think he's still in business, and I remember they're like, your insurance won't cover it, so you gotta pay him cash.
I remember I asked, and I remember at the time, I was like, oh, fuck, that's a car payment, man, there's no way.
I couldn't do it.
Would I have done it?
Probably.
Yeah, probably.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Short window, man.
eddie bravo
I wonder what Bob Sapp is up to lately.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brendan schaub
Fucking girls in Japan.
He's on Weedie Boxes and dressing up as Scots.
joe rogan
Dude, he had a real problem in Japan.
He didn't know he had to leave.
brendan schaub
Oh, for the Yoko...
joe rogan
He did a K-1 fight, and they wouldn't let him sign a contract before he fought.
He's like, I'm not fighting without a contract.
And they said, first you fight, then we give you a contract.
And they were like, fuck you.
And so he walked out on the finals, and it was the end of him.
See, Bob Sapp had become a huge star in Japan.
And I don't think people in America completely understood.
I mean, he was like...
brendan schaub
He was on literally the cereal boxes.
Big billboards.
He had fucking figurines made of him.
joe rogan
I mean, he's like, what is a comparable celebrity in the United States?
Like a super athlete, maybe?
brendan schaub
Who would be big right now?
joe rogan
He was so big, and he was such an oddity, because he was literally 370 pounds with ass.
brendan schaub
Do you think about those little Japanese girls just sucking them off?
Good luck, ladies.
joe rogan
Good luck.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
And he probably, yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
unidentified
Jesus.
brendan schaub
Can you imagine?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hey man, the guy beat Ernesto Hoos twice.
eddie bravo
Remember the sketch that we wrote?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Designed.
Look at him.
joe rogan
So he's still fighting.
unidentified
This was a couple years ago, yeah.
brendan schaub
He won the MMA fight.
If he's doing well, he was a prom.
eddie bravo
He still looks big.
joe rogan
Oh, he's still giant.
He's giant again.
brendan schaub
Does he tap from mount?
joe rogan
No, I think he beats this guy out.
unidentified
He won this fight.
brendan schaub
He was always a little bit of a...
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
He's got a belly.
But dude, when he fought Noguera, he was about as fucking scary as a human being.
brendan schaub
Dude, he almost broke Noguera's back.
Damn, that guy's in shape that he's fighting.
He almost broke Noguera's back.
joe rogan
Dude, he landed him on his head.
Remember that pile driver?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Noguera said Noguera for a long time.
joe rogan
For life?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he still fucked up for me.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
He had some problems.
That's crazy, man.
joe rogan
Bob Sapp was so big.
brendan schaub
So ginormous.
joe rogan
He was such a nightmare.
Like, what do you do with that?
And because he was on everything, his fucking cardio wasn't the worst for a guy that big.
brendan schaub
He didn't have the best fighter's heart, but he's just such a fucking monster.
joe rogan
Science project.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
But if the fight went for a long time...
joe rogan
Yeah, that was an issue.
The fight went for a while.
Well, you know, and after a while he took a bunch of beatings and he's like, that's enough.
Like after Cro Cop broke his eyeball.
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, that'll do it.
joe rogan
Cro Cop smashed his eyeball.
Remember one eye was open more than the other eye was?
Because that orbital is fucked, man.
When people get their orbital smashed, almost always one eye is more wide.
brendan schaub
I call it the sniper.
You don't want the fucking one eye bigger than the other.
joe rogan
Can you make the other one bigger?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
Is there surgeries?
Is there surgeries you can do?
joe rogan
Yeah, tell him to go in there and fucking straighten out that eyeball.
brendan schaub
You don't want the sniper, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I thought that was Theo Vaughn for a second.
joe rogan
Gender neutral haircut, son.
brendan schaub
Gender neutral.
You don't know what I am.
joe rogan
That's Marky Mark.
Iron and Clothes.
brendan schaub
Oh, this is Four Brothers.
Good movie.
All adopted.
Mom gets murdered and they have to avenge her death in Detroit, Michigan.
joe rogan
Oh, I remember this movie.
Look at you, dude.
You're like IMDB. Yeah, dude.
brendan schaub
I know my movies.
joe rogan
You're like a database.
brendan schaub
I know.
It's useless.
I get 90s reference for four days.
joe rogan
So we wrap this bitch up?
brendan schaub
I think so, man.
Pico bummed me out.
unidentified
Fedor...
joe rogan
Well, it didn't bum me out.
brendan schaub
It bummed me the fuck out, dude.
joe rogan
It sucks for him, for sure.
brendan schaub
I sucked him off so hard before that fight.
joe rogan
But for Corrales, it's a great thing.
And for martial arts, when something like that happens...
Every young fighter gets another little piece of information in his database of experiences that he can at least view.
Maybe not have, but view and put that in your mind.
Okay, this is what happens when you throw caution to the wind and you just slug it out with somebody.
When you just slug it out and you stand right in front of somebody, sometimes you get knocked out.
It's a bad idea.
I mean, he was winning the fight up until that moment.
He cracked the guy.
He had hurt him.
He looked amazing.
And then, boom.
He's standing.
I mean, he's so good, but he's still human.
And that's just the reality of being a human being that's fighting.
brendan schaub
And I'm bummed out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I get it, because you know the guy.
I get it.
I can't say...
I think those experiences, it's not good for him, right?
unidentified
Because it happened and he got hurt bad.
joe rogan
But it's valuable for all of us to take in what happens when, you know, look, every time a guy gets knocked out, believe it or not, it's valuable for the overall database of martial arts.
eddie bravo
Even a striker Like, Mirko Krokop has decided on at least two fights, I think, where he decided, you know what?
I think I have a better shot taking this motherfucker down and throwing elbows on the ground from the top.
You know what I mean?
That was like a strategy that he thought, you know what?
I'm getting clipped every now and then.
It's like Russian Roulette.
He's one of the greatest strikers of all time.
One of the most dangerous motherfuckers out there.
And he even got to the point where he was like, you know what?
I think I have a better shot taking this motherfucker down and smashing him.
Even Vanderlei Silva did that once or twice.
joe rogan
Sure.
Well, you remember when Krokop fought Randomman.
Randomman KO'd him.
And Randomman was known as more of a wrestler.
But, you know, he's a fucking stud athlete.
brendan schaub
Well, that's why he punches you in the jaw.
This is literally why it's the best sport.
joe rogan
Well, it's certainly the craziest to watch.
When Pico got knocked out, we all jumped out of our chairs.
brendan schaub
I fell on the ground.
joe rogan
We all walked around.
brendan schaub
I started crawling on the ground in disbelief.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's a crazy fucking sport, man.
A crazy sport.
How crazy is it that we all work in it somehow?
What happened there?
eddie bravo
My family is fucking still confused.
They're like, how the fuck is anybody paying you to learn how to fight?
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm pulling it off.
brendan schaub
It's working.
eddie bravo
My family does not, I left my family as a musician, as a pussy, who never got in any fights.
I got in a couple fights, but I wasn't known as a fighter.
unidentified
Right.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
I wrestled a couple years, so I thought I was cheating.
When I would fight, I would just double-leg a dude and punch him in the stomach until the teacher broke it up.
But I was never, ever considered a dangerous guy at all by my family, by my closest friends that I grew up.
So even today, they're still like, man, how did you pull that off, dude?
Like, what the fuck?
I'm like, dude, I don't know.
I got lucky.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
You paid attention to it, you know?
eddie bravo
I got fucking lucky, dude.
joe rogan
It's a good path, though, because it shows everybody that if you really just learn something, you get good at it, you keep getting better at it, you keep acquiring information, testing yourself, really being obsessed with it, you eventually, one day, after years of training...
You become a fucking wizard at it.
Whatever it is, in comparison to how you were when you first started.
It doesn't matter what you do.
Like, stand-up.
Like, you doing stand-up.
Dude, you did two years in, you did a fucking Showtime special.
Me and Brian were in the back room, we were shaking our heads.
Like, two years in, you did a fucking Showtime special.
It's crazy.
eddie bravo
That's incredible.
joe rogan
But you put in the fucking work, you started out, you were uncomfortable at first, you got better and better, you kept working on it, you chipped away at it, you were constantly, constantly doing sets, constantly going over your material, and you pulled it off.
eddie bravo
You had the MMA work ethic with comedy.
joe rogan
Yes!
A pro-athlete work ethic.
Yeah.
But it's that thing that's good for people to see.
I know it feels bad if you're not doing anything in your life.
And it was one of the things that people do when they hate.
One of the things that people do when they hate, like if you're kicking ass, they get upset because they're not.
And they're looking at you like, you're not that good, you're not that this, you're not that that.
Sometimes those criticisms are valid.
But at the end of the day, the reason why they're expressing them as exuberantly as they are is because they find flaws in their own life that they don't like to address.
And when they see someone that's doing well, they go after them and they shit on them.
It's the hater culture.
I think it's natural.
It's natural.
eddie bravo
Is it natural?
unidentified
I'm not like that.
joe rogan
What I'm trying to say, though, is for all those people...
If you just...
Stop putting any energy into that.
Stop.
It doesn't help you.
I've done it before.
I did it when I was younger.
I 100% am guilty of what I'm saying.
But it's a waste.
It's a giant waste of time.
If you just get better at stuff.
Just find a thing.
Whatever that...
brendan schaub
Focus on you.
joe rogan
If it's stand-up comedy.
Whatever it is.
Just find that thing and keep going.
Just keep going.
Concentrate on getting better.
brendan schaub
My favorite is when people go, Rogan writes your shit.
I'm like, yeah.
Yeah, Rogan wrote the hour for me.
Yeah, that's exactly what he did.
joe rogan
Imagine if I had the time to do that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's exactly what's happening.
brendan schaub
He's giving my perspective and he's writing it, you fucking man.
eddie bravo
That's hysterical.
joe rogan
That is impossible.
brendan schaub
Impossible.
Comedy doesn't work that way.
joe rogan
Well, you know who did do that, though, for a lot of guys?
Well, definitely did that for Chris Rock, was Richard Jenny.
Richard Jenny would tighten up dude's material.
You would bring him in.
brendan schaub
You would punch it up?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You would go do sets, and he would sit in the back of the room, and he would watch, but hey, you gotta drop that.
You gotta drop that.
Get rid of that.
Just start it with this, and go into that.
He would give you this, and guys would just listen to him.
That's kind of cool.
Some guys have done that, you know?
brendan schaub
Well, I've gone with Bert Kreischer.
I told him my story, and he's like, but he doesn't say, do this.
He'd go, it's too long here.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
brendan schaub
Focus on this and do this.
You do this and take the time on this.
eddie bravo
You've always done that.
Back when I did those few open mics like 15 years ago, I remember I bombed so bad this one set in the OR that you just grabbed me and said, follow me.
And you just dragged me to the back of the parking lot.
joe rogan
I remember I had to tell you because I was high.
And I had to tell you why.
Because when you're high, thoughts, they're slippery.
eddie bravo
You were so mad at me.
joe rogan
No, I was not mad at you.
I was never mad at you.
eddie bravo
Not mad at me, but disappointed.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I was not disappointed.
But I recognized what that was because I had done it.
I've done it before.
You went in there, it didn't go well, and then you just crashed and burned.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
But what happened with you, which is interesting, is you got really good at talking publicly.
And as you got better at talking publicly and doing classes and teaching classes, then a transition back to stand-up comedy actually made sense.
Because now you weren't nervous at all.
Because before you were always really funny, but the hard part was you being yourself on stage.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was hard.
It's still...
eddie bravo
And I had no public speaking experience.
That's huge.
I mean, I had zero.
Zero public speaking experience.
And I knew it.
And I thought, you know what?
I'm going to have to really spend a lot of fucking time with this if I'm going to do it right.
And I just didn't want to spend the time, so I decided, you know what?
I can't do it.
Let me just focus on jujitsu.
brendan schaub
You know what you could do?
If someone's going to do it eventually, but if you could get Joey Diaz...
For his comedy to come off on a special, like the same way he had all of us in the back of the comedy store.
joe rogan
We're all doing something right.
I'll tell you after the show.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you after the show.
joe rogan
I got something going on.
brendan schaub
I thought I broke my rib the next morning.
I was laughing so hard I was in tears.
joe rogan
Yeah, we have a plan.
brendan schaub
My rib almost...
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ari and I were literally just texting right before this show started.
brendan schaub
But I watched his Netflix special.
Not that anything's wrong with it.
He's still a fucking monster.
But if you could capture that, man.
Game over.
joe rogan
Best in the world.
Those Netflix specials, what they're doing is a half an hour set.
They're doing with a bunch of other people that they probably don't work with a lot.
And they have two shots.
They have the first show and then they have the second show.
And sometimes it doesn't work out as well.
It's hard.
You're under pressure.
It feels weird.
You're not used to the crowd.
Maybe the audience is lit up in a weird way.
brendan schaub
It also gets lost in the shuffle, though, because there's a ton of them on there.
You know what I'm saying?
Joey, he's in with a bunch of other guys.
joe rogan
You can't fault that, because the ones that stand out, I mean, look at whether you like it or not, like that Nanette thing from Hannah Gadsby.
I still haven't seen it, but it stood out, and a lot of people liked it.
brendan schaub
For different reasons, though, right?
joe rogan
Okay, but there was other ones that didn't stand out for that, but they stood out because people really responded to it.
Tom Segura's.
I mean, Tom's selling out these places because people responded so well to his specials.
brendan schaub
No, Netflix is amazing.
I'm saying how his was released in Degenerates.
There's 830 minutes.
It's a package.
joe rogan
It still doesn't matter.
It really doesn't.
brendan schaub
You're thinking if it's good, it's good.
joe rogan
I've been hearing a lot about Neil Brennan's special from people that watched the last one.
brendan schaub
Oh, he was on there.
That's right.
joe rogan
Comedians of the World.
brendan schaub
I've been hearing a lot about that set.
eddie bravo
I love that set.
Neil Brennan is a monster.
joe rogan
I want to say anything about his new stuff because I'll give away the premises, but he's murdering them.
eddie bravo
I was super impressed with Neil Brennan.
I was like, whoa, this is the funniest I've ever heard of him.
joe rogan
I love that.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
eddie bravo
He's definitely the best one I've seen so far on that special.
joe rogan
He's very smart, man.
His new stuff is excellent.
eddie bravo
His analogy of ISIS? His analogy of ISIS? Fuck.
brendan schaub
He punches up a lot of people.
Your favorite comedian's shit, he punches it up.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Ellen's, Chris Rocks.
Yes, he does.
eddie bravo
I mean, Dave Chappelle.
He was Dave Chappelle's writing partner.
joe rogan
Well, for the Chappelle show, yeah.
That was back when we were friends with him.
He hadn't even done stand-up yet.
Remember that?
When we hung out with him in New York?
Eddie came with me when I did the Fear Factor Chappelle sketch.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
We did it.
The weird ass warehouse.
eddie bravo
How long ago is this though?
2004. It was a long time ago.
joe rogan
Was it even?
It might have been three.
eddie bravo
It could have been three.
We fly out to New York and they're filming all day in this fucking old ass warehouse with no windows and it's freezing.
Everybody's in winter coats and everyone's freezing.
joe rogan
One of those burner heater things.
Those portable, like, inferno heater things.
Eddie and I were fucking huddled by this guy.
eddie bravo
Yeah, everybody was.
The cameraman, the grips.
And he did the crackhead character, Dave Chappelle.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
So he stayed in character.
unidentified
Y'all got any more?
eddie bravo
Yeah, exactly.
Got any more rocks?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He stayed in character the whole fucking day.
And he's trying to tell him about me.
Like, he introduced me to Dave Chappell.
He goes, this guy, he just tapped Hoyler Gracie.
And he was like, Hoyler Gracie?
joe rogan
God damn.
brendan schaub
He was doing a whole bit.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
So, every time we ran into each other throughout the day, he'd look at me and go, you tapped Hoyler Gracie?
Damn.
joe rogan
It was hysterical.
eddie bravo
Over and over and over and over.
He would say the same shit.
brendan schaub
I wonder why it took Neil so long to get into stand-up.
He's such a brilliant writer.
joe rogan
I think he sat back and watched it and probably thought he could do it and then said, you know what, let me just give it a shot and just took to it like a duck to water.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I had a good conversation about stand-up with him last night.
eddie bravo
I just saw Sebastian's special yesterday.
Last night, Sebastian.
Dude!
It's so crazy that we've seen him.
He was just one of the regulars at the OR when we'd go in.
joe rogan
You ready for this?
He just sold out four shows at Madison Square Garden.
eddie bravo
It's incredible!
joe rogan
Do you know how many people that is?
It's 18,000 people a show.
He sold out four shows.
He sold out four shows.
brendan schaub
It's the top ten, right?
For most highest earnings.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Comedy.
joe rogan
Well, this year he's probably going to be number one, if I had to guess.
brendan schaub
Seinfeld's saying, hold my bear.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Seinfeld can't do that.
He can't sell out four shows at Madison Square Garden like that.
He might sell out one.
Four is crazy.
There's guys like Louis C.K. Kevin Chappelle.
But Louis C.K. I think sold out two in a row.
I don't think he ever did four like that in a weekend.
It's a weekend, dude.
He sold out four in a weekend.
unidentified
That's insane.
joe rogan
It's insane.
It's almost unprecedented.
Dice did it.
Dice sold out Madison Square Garden.
eddie bravo
How many times?
unidentified
Kevin Hart.
I don't know.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Kevin Hart's the biggest.
joe rogan
The thing about Dice that you always have to give up is that Dice was numero uno.
Nobody did that before.
Nobody did anything like that before.
What he did, he would sell out arenas when nobody had ever heard about doing this before.
Nassau Coliseum.
eddie bravo
Not even Eddie Murphy?
Eddie Murphy was close though, right?
joe rogan
He was until he stopped doing stand-up, but he never quite reached the heights that Dice did.
Dice was absolutely, without a doubt, unprecedented.
Because I remember, it was happening as I was getting into stand-up.
So as I was getting into stand-up, Dice was selling out arenas.
And he would sell them out like two, three nights in a row.
And he'd done hundreds of arena shows all over the country.
Nobody had been like that before.
Yeah.
Before, everybody was doing places that I used to do.
eddie bravo
Sebastian is kind of like a different version, a newer, cleaned-up version of Dice, sort of.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, they used to go on the road together.
Sebastian used to open Dice.
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
He tells a story about not doing a long enough set.
Have you heard this?
No.
Sebastian talked about this.
He's opening for him, and he's supposed to do 12 minutes, and he did eight, and he came to the back, and Dice just fucking tore him a new one.
He's like, what the fuck are you doing?
Well, you gotta do 12. Yeah, you gotta do your shit.
You gotta do 12. Because Dice, I guess, was asking his mind, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Went too early.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, I did a show with a guy once.
I went to the green room, and a minute and a half later, he came backstage.
eddie bravo
It was great!
The crowd's great!
joe rogan
I go, what are you doing?
He goes...
He just goes, I can't do it.
eddie bravo
What?
joe rogan
You can't do it?
You're done?
He goes, yeah, I'm just, I can't.
So I walked out through the green room door onto the stage and the audience is looking at me like, what the fuck?
eddie bravo
Was this in the UK? Yes.
Yes!
I remember that.
I remember that shit.
brendan schaub
Famous guy?
eddie bravo
Oh, yes.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
Don't throw him under the bus.
unidentified
You don't want to say his name, but a guy went out, bombed.
You remember that?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
And then the whole night, you were trying to coach him back.
He was like, I'm done with it.
I quit.
I'm never going to do this.
brendan schaub
Wow, he was just trying to coach him back.
eddie bravo
The crowd didn't like him.
joe rogan
This is what happened.
He used to do stand-up, and then he stopped doing it.
He had a regular job, too.
And he wasn't doing it as much.
I think he was drinking.
brendan schaub
Would I know him?
Would I know him, Joe?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Good guy, though.
I like him a lot.
It was a bummer.
brendan schaub
Hopefully you figured it out.
joe rogan
But it's fucking hard, man.
It's even harder in England, man.
You want to make it in England?
It's not as easy as it is over here.
eddie bravo
Have you ever had just a nightmare show that was just horrible?
brendan schaub
Not at one of my one hours.
If I'm on the road, no.
If you bomb it there, I don't know what you're doing.
But at the Comedy Story, I've ate all the dicks in the room.
joe rogan
Because it's not generally coming to see you.
They're coming to see you.
They're really excited to see you.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
When I'm on the road, those are my people.
joe rogan
But That's why...
brendan schaub
But the Comedy Store Laugh Factory have eight tons of dicks.
joe rogan
Those are so important.
Those weird shows where there's 15 people on the lineup and they might be there to see D'Elia.
They might be there to see Theo.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
They don't know who I am.
eddie bravo
That's scary shit.
brendan schaub
That's the only way to get you.
eddie bravo
That's scary shit.
joe rogan
That's what you were supposed to do.
brendan schaub
I did Flappers the other night and it wasn't my crowd.
I could notice right away.
There's old people in the back.
It's kind of...
joe rogan
They're all on pills.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It's always better when they're there to see you.
brendan schaub
All I know is that whiskey is fucking good.
joe rogan
It's good whiskey.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's good whiskey.
joe rogan
You want another one?
brendan schaub
I got to drive, dude.
And that thing's fast as fuck.
joe rogan
How funny is doing stand-up?
eddie bravo
It's the funnest shit.
joe rogan
It's the funnest shit ever.
eddie bravo
When you don't bomb.
Yeah, when you don't bomb.
Yeah, if it goes great, it's too much fun.
brendan schaub
Dude, last Saturday at my special, so Rogan introduced me.
I come out in the crowd.
joe rogan
You're so awesome.
brendan schaub
Boom!
And I start getting emotional.
My eyes start to fill up with tears.
I'm like, oh, fuck, dude.
Fuck, do not cry.
Do not fucking cry.
So they'll definitely use the edit of the second show because I didn't get emotional.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Because I had to find my way in that first one.
joe rogan
It was a great crowd too, man.
They were super hyped.
brendan schaub
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
It was really fun.
brendan schaub
It was so cool, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, Cal went up and did like 10 minutes.
I did like 10 minutes.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Stepped off the side and then I brought Brendan up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was awesome, man.
joe rogan
We were so proud of you.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I love it, man.
joe rogan
It was so cool.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was so cool.
joe rogan
It was so fun, man.
brendan schaub
Best night of my life, man.
Hands down.
joe rogan
It was super positive, man.
Dude, I drove all the way the fuck down and all the way the fuck back in a night.
brendan schaub
I can't believe you did that.
joe rogan
I drove five and a half hours down and two and a half hours back.
Eight hours of driving, son.
It was rough.
unidentified
Ah.
joe rogan
By the time I got home, I got my head out the window.
brendan schaub
Trying to stay awake.
eddie bravo
You're just imagining how good that bed is going to feel.
You're just like, fuck.
brendan schaub
Dude, I told you I'd get you a room, whatever you want.
I'd pay Burr to fly in a helicopter, but he's like, no, you're going to get back.
eddie bravo
Helicopter would have been great.
How much would a helicopter be?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I offered it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I had to drive.
My daughter had a gymnastics event, and so I was going to get back.
I had to get back in the morning.
brendan schaub
I got emotional before the thing because obviously you showing up, Brian, my boys, and then Theo sent me this video, this heartfelt video, D'Elia, Bert, Tom Segur, I'm like, what the fuck?
Joey Diaz?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'm like, what the fuck, man?
joe rogan
Yeah, when you were like, hey man, you don't have to come like, listen, motherfucker, I'm coming.
I'm like, I'm coming.
I'm like, I'm not going to miss that.
brendan schaub
I need to see that.
joe rogan
I need to see that.
It was fun.
It was a good night.
It was very positive.
Positive vibes.
I was beaming like half the way home until I started getting tired.
I was super happy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I was so happy.
When does it come out?
I'd say May.
May or April.
joe rogan
So, you gotta tour now, and then try to work in new material while you're touring.
brendan schaub
Here's the thing.
No, I'm not going on the road to March.
I have, and you're gonna be like, you're a fucking idiot.
I almost have a scene, because I recorded the special, I'm done with that, man.
So, I'm trying to, I'll still do, obviously I have to do certain bits when I do it at the store, but I'm trying to get at least 30 minutes before.
joe rogan
Well, you should, but it's not a bad idea to do the road while you still can, because you can make money doing clubs and doing theaters and all the different things you do.
And the reps.
The strategy that I always employed, it's not the best one.
You can do whatever you want.
But what I like to do is do a bit that I know works and then some new shit.
And then a bit I know works and then some new shit.
I make sandwiches.
I make shit sandwiches.
And then eventually I turn that shit into beef jerky and then eventually it's a steak.
It just takes time.
But that's the best way I've found is you've got to give them some stuff that's 100% legit.
You have to.
I definitely still do workout sets like in town where there's fucking around.
But even now, it's like, what if I do a workout set at the store?
Like a lot of times it's mobbed, man.
brendan schaub
At the store?
Yeah, I can't do it.
unidentified
It's mobbed.
brendan schaub
It's mobbed.
joe rogan
I mean, you go to the main room and you go on stage and they go fucking crazy?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They've got babysitters, bro.
brendan schaub
I got a plan because I had horrible anxiety.
Literally, the next morning I woke up, I had the worst anxiety.
I'm like, I come up with all new shit.
I got a plan because I feel better about it.
joe rogan
I don't bump people, but I understand it.
Because with a guy like Chris Rock or Louis C.K. or a lot of the guys that would...
When I say bump, it's not thought of as a negative thing.
It's thought of as a negative thing if you really don't deserve it.
If you're a certain person and you try to bump people and people are like, this fucking guy's bumping people?
But, you know, if Chris Rock shows up, generally most people just let him go on stage.
Dave Chappelle, perfect example.
You just let him go on stage.
brendan schaub
I think it's a respect thing.
I think it's a complete respect thing.
joe rogan
But what it is, it's how they manage to try stand-up when they know it's not their audience.
Like, they're famous, so it's almost like every audience is Dave Chappelle's audience.
brendan schaub
Home games for them.
joe rogan
But that's how you develop material.
Because if people are coming to see you, 100%, then you feel more inclined to do new stuff.
Whereas if you're just dropping in, you feel like you can work on new stuff better.
If people come to see you, you're going to do stuff that's tried and proven.
eddie bravo
I caught him last Tuesday night.
He was in the OR. I was leaving.
And I passed by, and I'm like, oh shit, Dave Chappelle's on stage.
And everybody, I mean, there was so much goddamn loving, positive energy in that room.
And he was just sitting on a chair, smoking a cigarette.
And he was just, anything he said, People lost their fucking mind.
Like, one line, he would just sit there.
Don't ever tell your wife's gay friends shit.
unidentified
And then people lose their fucking mind.
eddie bravo
They didn't even have to hear the rest of the story.
Everybody, comedians were dying.
joe rogan
That's such a funny premise.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's like, fuck, dude, he's so good, so confident.
He's just, he's like the fucking Yoda, you know, of comedy.
He's just incredible.
joe rogan
He's as good as anybody that's ever lived.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Hell fucking yeah.
joe rogan
And he's got his own style to this laid back, you know.
eddie bravo
So confident, dude.
joe rogan
Just calm and silly.
eddie bravo
He knows he's going to kill.
unidentified
It's like impossible.
brendan schaub
Also, I love how he wears his own clothes.
You notice that?
joe rogan
What do you mean?
brendan schaub
So this is a Gucci fucking shirt, right?
He would have that Gucci sign taken off, and it says, Dave, DC. He has his logo on it.
joe rogan
I think it's just a C, right?
brendan schaub
Is it just a C? It's just a C. It's just a C on all his clothes.
He doesn't have all his clothes?
joe rogan
Does he get those clothes made?
brendan schaub
I think it's his own line.
I'm not sure, but obviously I'm a weird fashion dude.
unidentified
I wear my shirts all the time.
brendan schaub
His is like designer shit.
His jean jacket will just have his logo on it.
His chain will be his logo.
His shirt will be his logo.
eddie bravo
He's smart as fuck.
brendan schaub
He's like, why am I going to wear other people's shit?
joe rogan
Well, it's also like you don't want to get caught up in that designer name trap where people are trying to wear Gucci everywhere and all these different...
You know what I'm saying?
People get caught up in that where they have to show that off.
brendan schaub
I hear you.
It's fucking stupid.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Wouldn't you rather have a big old B on everything?
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Just have a B. Why don't you go for it?
brendan schaub
Dolce, Gurbana?
No, Dolce, no.
joe rogan
Okay, what is...
eddie bravo
I don't know what's good.
joe rogan
What's top of the line?
Gucci?
Is Gucci top of the line?
brendan schaub
Gucci's still good.
Louis Vuitton in probably six months with Virgil's release.
He's the head creator now.
They're going to take over.
joe rogan
What the fuck did you just say?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I know.
Jamie understands a little bit.
joe rogan
Do you understand, Jamie?
He's on black Twitter.
Gucci.
What else is the shit?
brendan schaub
Gucci off-white's huge right now.
eddie bravo
Prada's still good?
brendan schaub
Prada's good.
joe rogan
Are there certain watches that guys try to wear?
brendan schaub
Rolex is always killing it.
Rolex is never going to go anywhere.
joe rogan
Never goes anywhere.
You've got an iced up Rolex and you're a rapper, you're a winner.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
Always.
The Daytona's classic.
joe rogan
But if you're like a Floyd Mayweather, you've got to take it to another level.
eddie bravo
Louis Vuitton?
Can Floyd wear...
Louis Vuitton?
brendan schaub
No, he wears a Louis Vuitton all the time.
He wears Gucci all the time.
Gucci's like hot in the streets.
eddie bravo
That's number one.
brendan schaub
Gucci's like hot in the streets.
It's a crossover.
joe rogan
How do you know this?
brendan schaub
Because their style.
eddie bravo
Is it in the magazines?
unidentified
Is there like a pound for pound top 25?
brendan schaub
It's just like it's out there.
I don't know.
It's just...
joe rogan
You have your finger in the pulse, but where's the bloodline?
eddie bravo
What magazine do you have to read?
brendan schaub
The pulse is like...
What's the magazine?
The pulse will start with like...
eddie bravo
What's the website?
brendan schaub
There he is.
eddie bravo
Where do we go?
joe rogan
This is him with...
This is millions of dollars worth of watches.
Play this because it's so preposterous.
Start it from the beginning and play it.
He's so ridiculous.
He's got like 30 watches with him.
But can you do it from the beginning?
What's that?
I can't start it over.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Do you know the kind of security he has to have?
joe rogan
Look at this.
unidentified
But you know what?
You know what?
What's crazy is this.
joe rogan
30 days, 30 watches.
unidentified
If we add 10 more days, I'd take 10 more watches.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Look at this.
But then I say, fuck it.
If I want to bring out the one and only, then I bring out the watch that costs 18 million.
eddie bravo
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That's so preposterous.
unidentified
Shit.
brendan schaub
$18 million on your wrist?
That's insane.
joe rogan
Plus, press play, Jamie.
eddie bravo
That's a lot of millions.
unidentified
Matter of fact, you know what I'm going to do?
For you motherfucking haters today, I'm going to go fuck on $50,000 because I ain't got shit else to do.
brendan schaub
You motherfuckers.
eddie bravo
Money made.
unidentified
All motherfucking day.
brendan schaub
That's the end.
That's ridiculous.
He's a crazy person.
$18 million watch?
eddie bravo
Does he really hate 50 Cent or is that an act?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
eddie bravo
That's the real thing?
joe rogan
I think they're really mad at each other.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't think Floyd is a fuck.
joe rogan
It seems like 50 Cent and a lot of people get in little scraps.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
brendan schaub
Floyd gets some scraps.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I mean, when you act like that, that's his whole thing.
brendan schaub
I hope people are going to hate you.
But the problem is like Adrian Broner tries doing the same thing, but he doesn't win, so it's tough.
You know, I think his slogan's about billions.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Adrian Broder.
A.B. About Billions.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
It's a tough sell.
joe rogan
Well, if he was lighting everybody up on fire...
unidentified
Sorry.
Whoa.
brendan schaub
No shit.
joe rogan
Jamie's mixing it up.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about...
Shit.
DJ Jamie.
Jamie.
joe rogan
What was that?
Black Twitter?
No, it's 50 Cent's Instagram page.
jamie vernon
He's talking about Adrian Broder.
joe rogan
Y'all know I beat that boy, he said.
What is 50 Cent saying?
brendan schaub
Is he talking shit about Adrian...
joe rogan
Oh, damn, AB. I want my money.
I bet on you back.
Oh, look at this.
brendan schaub
50 Cent's the guy that just jumps in to stay relevant, huh?
That's a little bit of it.
Like, he's trolling, and he gets his name out there.
joe rogan
Well, he definitely does that.
Yeah.
What does he still do these days?
It looks like he's got a bunch of parties he's doing.
brendan schaub
He's on Power, right?
He's on Power?
joe rogan
Those are shows?
unidentified
Those are launch parties, so he's got a brand of...
brendan schaub
I think he owns that club.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think he's doing parties.
I don't think he's necessarily, like, rapping there.
brendan schaub
No, he's not.
joe rogan
Doesn't rap anymore, right?
Does he rap anymore?
brendan schaub
No, he's an actor, right?
He's on power, and then he made a shitload of money off vitamin water, they say.
Although that might be a rumor, because they said he's bullshit.
unidentified
I think he might be an investor in Bellator.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a co- like...
joe rogan
What is he doing with Bellator?
brendan schaub
He's involved in it.
joe rogan
It's almost like he's doing that same shit that...
What was the girl?
Carmen Lecter did?
You know, we were like a celebrity.
Remember when she was connected to the UFC? Carmen Lecter was?
Yeah, you don't remember?
unidentified
Eddie Bravo?
eddie bravo
She was the post-fight interviewer or something.
unidentified
No, no, no.
What?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
She was the liaison.
She was like a celebrity...
She was like a promoter.
Celebrity promoter of the UFC. That's a brilliant...
eddie bravo
Like MC Hammer?
brendan schaub
No, he's a manager.
He's my manager.
joe rogan
I want to say I wasn't working for the UFC then.
Yeah, see there.
Look at her.
Carmen Electra with Carlos Mouton.
eddie bravo
Jens Pulver, Tito Ortiz.
joe rogan
Chuck Liddell.
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Pedro Hizzo.
Who's the other guy behind her?
Who's the guy behind her?
eddie bravo
Dan Anderson?
joe rogan
So look at Randy Couture.
brendan schaub
Randy Couture.
joe rogan
Look at that picture.
Crazy.
brendan schaub
In this current culture, you're going to make that.
joe rogan
So Carmen Electra was like, you know, she was a hot celebrity.
brendan schaub
Top 10 hottest of all time.
joe rogan
And she would do these interviews and she would talk about the UFC. Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm all about that.
Bring that shit back.
joe rogan
They tried it for a little while, but I don't think they got a lot of mileage out of it, and so they bailed on that.
brendan schaub
That's a bad idea.
joe rogan
She's so hot.
Yeah, well, she was really nice, too.
I did a thing with her for Spike TV back in the day.
We did some car thing.
brendan schaub
You're fucking right, dude.
joe rogan
With Kid Rock and Spike.
brendan schaub
Were you single at the time?
joe rogan
No.
Sorry.
brendan schaub
Well, that ends the show.
joe rogan
I don't think she was either, so it's alright.
brendan schaub
Now you can figure it out, you know?
joe rogan
This podcast is brought to you by tfatk.com.
Brandon Schaub will be out on the road.
brendan schaub
I'm not on the road till March.
We can check below the belt.
joe rogan
What are you going to do between now and then?
Just write new shit?
brendan schaub
The new shit.
Set, set.
I'm lying set, set up.
I got a point.
eddie bravo
You going up Tuesday?
brendan schaub
I think so.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
eddie bravo
I'm doing the late show.
joe rogan
I'm doing the early show.
eddie bravo
Maybe I'll run into you.
joe rogan
Maybe I'll be there.
Motherfuckers.
Alright.
That's it, everybody.
10thplanetjj.com.
Eddie Bravo 10 on Instagram.
eddie bravo
At Eddie Bravo 10p.
joe rogan
10p on Instagram.
And Eddie Bravo regular on Twitter.
Do you go to Twitter anymore?
eddie bravo
I'm never on Twitter.
I post shit that gets posted on Twitter, but I never mingle.
I never mingle on Twitter.
It's just Instagram.
joe rogan
Too toxic.
brendan schaub
Twitter's a bunch of haters.
eddie bravo
Instagram is just so much better.
joe rogan
Alright, shout out to Marky Mark and Four Brothers, whatever it is.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Four Brothers.
joe rogan
Shout out to Ryan Bader.
Ryan Bader, holy shit.
brendan schaub
Jesus, double champ champ, baby.
unidentified
Yeah, amazing.
brendan schaub
You know what it is?
The Philly cheesesteak on Below the Belt.
joe rogan
Probably.
Yeah, and you can see that on Showtime and YouTube.
brendan schaub
Below the Belt.
Below the Belt YouTube.
joe rogan
Okay.
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