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Sept. 4, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1166 - Diamond Dallas Page
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joe rogan
Four, three, two, one.
Mr. Page, how are you?
diamond dallas page
I never had a bad day in my life.
joe rogan
Ever?
diamond dallas page
Well, I've had plenty of bad moments.
joe rogan
Bad moments, but you recovered.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, you know, to me, it's all your state of mind, period.
And I don't stay there.
If I go down, I get back up.
joe rogan
If you're gonna chew that, people are gonna go fucking crazy.
I put one of those in my mouth the other day, and I got like 150 comments because I had a sore throat.
diamond dallas page
Well, I got the throat coat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Listen, man, first of all, I love what you're doing.
I really do.
I think it's fantastic, and I'm a big fan of yoga, and what you've done for not just...
What you've done is made yoga available to people that thought that yoga was for chicks.
diamond dallas page
Right.
Now, it's funny you say that because how it started, it was yoga for regular.
It was regular people, regular guys.
It made it for guys.
joe rogan
People think of yoga as being something that you have to be into.
You've got to be all namaste.
And you hear, Dallas Diamond Page, what the fuck?
diamond dallas page
Or Diamond Dallas Patriots.
unidentified
Either one.
joe rogan
But you.
You're this giant pro wrestler guy.
You're into yoga, and you're really, really into it.
I mean, you've got your own system of yoga.
I mean, this is for something that I think is very important for body maintenance and for keeping your spine healthy and mobility, which is one of the things that a lot of us ignore, especially big guys who like to lift weights.
diamond dallas page
Sure.
joe rogan
Do a lot of crazy shit.
diamond dallas page
I was a meathead.
I'm the guy who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga the first 42 years of my life.
But I didn't start wrestling until I was 35. Really?
Really.
And my career didn't take off until I was 40. How old are you now?
joe rogan
62. Dude, if you folks saw what he just did with no warm-up, no warm-up, bent over, grabbed your ankles, fully flattened your body out, pressed your body up against your thighs with no warm-up, then he picks his ankle up and fully extends his leg over his head.
I mean, that is incredibly impressive for a 20-year-old person.
diamond dallas page
Well, it's all about staying ahead of it.
You know, it's all about owning it.
Going back to, you know, just my career, I mean, my career took off in 96, which was, I was 40 years old.
97 and 98, man, I was on top of the world.
Wrestling 270 days a year, every year.
And then I did The Tonight Show, Hollywood Squares, a movie called First Daughter was my first movie I did.
So, I mean, I was probably working 300 and...
20 days a year and the wear and tear on your body after a while like boom I took a power slam from or a powerbomb from Kevin Nash Kevin's legit 610 long way down and it wasn't that bump that blew my back out it was all of it and being almost 43 years old and when I ruptured my L4 and L5 and we have this amazing vertebrae that is what allows us to do all this crazy shit that we do but What really allows us is those shock absorbers,
those discs in between the vertebrae.
Well, think of a jelly donut and slap that jelly donut and now there's nothing there.
So I have no discs in between my L4 or L5. I was told by three different spine specialists, you're never going to wrestle again.
I just signed a multi-million dollar three-year deal.
So the guy who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga would do anything to get back in the ring.
And I was married at the time and she kind of bullied me into it.
And once I started doing it, Joe, just like you know, I started to feel different, and I started thinking, wow.
joe rogan
Now, did you talk to any doctors that wanted to replace your discs or fuse your discs?
diamond dallas page
Two wanted to fuse them, one didn't.
What year was this?
joe rogan
1999. So there wasn't any of those spacers that they have now?
unidentified
No, they didn't have any of that.
joe rogan
Titanium discs?
diamond dallas page
Didn't have any of that.
And his whole thing was, if we do fuse you and you go back, you will be crippled because you won't recover from that.
So again, going to do yoga, and I started doing Brian Kest.
Have you ever taken one of my Brian Kest classes here in LA? No.
He's amazing.
joe rogan
What kind of yoga is that?
diamond dallas page
Power yoga.
He's the guy who kind of put power yoga on the map.
And he made me feel like, okay, that dude's cool.
And today, he's a buddy of mine.
But at the time, I was just doing his VHS tapes.
But for what I wanted, it wasn't giving me everything.
So what I did, I've rehabbed both shoulder surgeries, both knee surgeries, And I'm kind of like God-given gifts of figuring out how to heal myself.
I'm the first guy in professional wrestling to ever ice his body by almost a decade, eight years before they would start doing that.
joe rogan
You mean like ice baths?
diamond dallas page
Like ice your shoulders, ice your knees, ice your back.
Inflammation, take it down.
I just got that.
joe rogan
How'd you figure that out?
diamond dallas page
You know, just different reading on different people and how they healed themselves and what people were saying.
And what I've found that a lot of people don't want to put the extra work in.
They could be the hardest workers ever, but they won't go that extra mile just to go get a bag of ice, fill it up, put it on your knees, put an A-span around it, you can go wherever you want.
joe rogan
Well, that's also like part of the culture of tough guys, right?
Like they don't give a fuck.
Let's just go get a beer and have some food, you know, right?
diamond dallas page
Steve Austin.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of that, right?
There's something about the same type of guy that's so tough they could work 300 days a year is also the same type of guy that's gonna go, ah, I'll fucking just deal with it.
diamond dallas page
And Steve, me and Austin, when I broke in, I was like 35 and a half.
He's 26. And Austin was always way ahead of the curve as far as talent.
But he was like, what are you doing, kid?
I've got those ice bags.
So back then we were drinking beers.
Not that it's right to do, but back then we were.
And he would put the beers on my ice bags in between my ice bag and just keep his beers cold.
True story.
True story.
So, you know, the bottom line is I started to mix the rehabilitation techniques with the yoga positions.
Then I threw in old-school calisthenics, like push-ups, squats, crunches, and I did them with a slow burn movement because I had to.
And in the beginning, I had to do them on my knees.
joe rogan
When you say slow burn movement, this is what you were just showing me before we started the podcast.
You're into a lot of dynamic tension exercises.
diamond dallas page
Exactly.
joe rogan
Which is a lot of what Bruce Lee was into.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Into a lot of that stuff.
diamond dallas page
Go look at Bruce Lee.
Did he ever have an ounce of fat on him?
joe rogan
I don't know what he ate, but...
diamond dallas page
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
The guy was shredded, but that whole time under tension thing, something I call dynamic resistance, I hated that.
And like for the push-ups, you know, I would lower for three, hold three inches off the ground for three, come up for three, Lower for three, hold for three.
Then I'd go into Cobra and a down dog.
And in the beginning, I had to do them on my knees.
But then I built that strength to get off my knees.
And then three-second push-ups became five.
Five became ten.
Ten became sets of ten.
If you go to my DDP Yoga Facebook, you'll see a video up there of me doing on my 62nd birthday.
Well, actually two days after.
Ten ten-second push-ups.
At 62. So my core strength is at a different level.
I don't lift weights anymore.
I haven't really for 10 years because I really don't need it and I don't need a size.
I like being like 230. The bottom line is what today is called, I'm branding it DDPY. Why?
Because I want people to stop calling it just yoga because it's so different.
Now, you've done a lot of yoga.
joe rogan
Yeah.
diamond dallas page
I just took you through that minute and a half.
Is that like anything you've ever done in a yoga studio?
joe rogan
No, it's very different.
What you were saying, your dynamic tension thing definitely adds another element to it.
diamond dallas page
And then I have fun with it, man.
I do shit like when you take into a lunge and you throw your arms up, I go, superstar!
You know, when we're in like a lunge that we're folding forward and we're to explode into touchdown, I'd say throw a little Ric Flair on the end of that.
And as everybody explodes, woo!
You know, just having people having fun.
I did a big event.
It was this weekend.
It was called All In.
And it's Cody Rhodes, who's the American Dream Dusty Rhodes' son.
He's been in independent wrestling.
He was at the show, WWE, for 10 years.
And bottom line is he went away, left there, left guaranteed money.
Got to be like a half a million bucks.
Left it and went to follow the dream because he knew he was a main event guy.
And him and these kids, the Young Bucks, they sold out this arena that was 10,426 people.
In 29 minutes and 36 seconds.
joe rogan
They counted?
They counted the seconds?
diamond dallas page
Well, they did.
Because it's a really big deal when you're an independent group.
joe rogan
You're not the WWE. No, that's insane.
diamond dallas page
It's insane.
joe rogan
How many different groups are there now?
There's NWA. There's WWE. Right.
diamond dallas page
There's ROH. There's The Row, as my buddy Booker T calls it down there in Houston.
joe rogan
And NWA is what Billy Corgan owns, right?
diamond dallas page
Right, and I'll tell you what.
Cody was going for the NWA championship against Nick, who was just one of the studs of our business.
They had a hell of a match.
Billy owns that title.
Now think about this.
Vince McMahon just, I want to say he was paid $1.2 billion by Fox for the programming for a live show on Friday nights.
I'm not sure what the deal is at six years or eight years, but $1.2 billion.
And then I heard there's another multi-billion dollar contract being out there, Comcast or something.
So that's like NFL stuff.
So when that kind of attention comes to wrestling, more people are going to be like, oh, I want to get involved in that.
And plus, Vince really has taken it mainstream at a different level.
Like back when we were killing it in the 90s, I mean, we had the highest rated show on cable television, whether it was WCW or WWF. Every week, we were one, two, and three, sometimes one, two, three, and four, top four shows.
But our dollars that we could get for the advertising...
Was nothing like they're getting today because they made it kids friendly.
They changed that and it was brilliant by Vince.
You know, it really changed format, but today it's about to go through another boom and this whole independent thing that Cody and these young bucks who are great kids did.
It really lit up that world.
And it's the same thing all over the country.
I mean, I should say world.
Japan's really big right now, and so is UK and Mexico.
They're really, really big.
joe rogan
One of the guys from the UFC, Matthew Riddle, just got signed to the WWE. I heard that.
Yeah, his story is kind of fucked up.
He got fired from the UFC for failing a pot test.
And the crazy thing, it's so crazy.
Let the guy smoke pot.
Jesus Christ.
But it's even more crazy that, you know, now it's legal.
diamond dallas page
Right.
joe rogan
Now pot's legal, and now the level that you can get tested for is so much lower than anything that he got.
But I think he enjoys it.
I don't think he's missing fighting.
You know, fighting is...
I know that pro wrestling is probably harder on your body doing those 300 days a year.
I don't think there's anything like it in all of entertainment.
I really don't.
I mean, it's crazy to think that you're getting body slammed and thrown into the ropes and forearms slammed and all that shit's going on 300 days a year.
It's really, it's not fair.
There really should be a way where you could take some time off.
It doesn't make any sense.
diamond dallas page
When I was on Hollywood Squares one time, someone said, so when's your season?
When are you off?
They knew nothing about wrestling.
I said, when I'm hurt.
You know, but the bottom line is...
joe rogan
And not hurt.
diamond dallas page
Injured.
Injured.
joe rogan
Like blown ligaments.
diamond dallas page
Exactly.
joe rogan
You guys compete, you know, you perform hurt on a regular basis.
diamond dallas page
All the time.
I mean, and so do the guys in the NFL. Well, so do the guys in the UFC as well.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I think with Matt Riddle, it's like he's got a great personality.
And, you know, he doesn't have to cut any weight anymore, and now he's gigantic, and he's a fun guy.
I think WWE is perfect for someone like him.
diamond dallas page
I was down there.
I train a lot of the guys down there.
It's called NXT. Next.
And these kids are unbelievable.
They're so talented.
But I bring my DDPY program down to them, and they're all on my hat.
joe rogan
So you're starting that early with these guys.
diamond dallas page
Plus, I'm like, you know, again, I'm 62. They're 24, 22, 28. You know, so they grew up watching me.
So it's much easier for me to get them to pay attention.
All you have to do is look at Chris Jericho, who's one of the top stars in the world, and he is not with WWE right now.
You know, he comes and goes.
And he was at that show all in.
He did a run-in, a surprise thing, and blew the roof off.
He's going to be 48 in November.
He wrestles like he's 28. He's been doing my program since he did the same thing I did when he blew his back out and three doctors said he was not going to wrestle anymore.
Five weeks later, 85% pain-free.
Three months later, he headlined WrestleMania against Punk.
He talks about it all the time.
joe rogan
Now, how is your back today, those same discs?
diamond dallas page
If I don't do it, it's kind of like brushing your teeth.
You've got to brush your teeth.
And I don't have to do it every single day, but...
joe rogan
Pretty close.
diamond dallas page
Pretty much.
And when I wake up, my first 10 minutes, I call it wake up.
Man, I call it oil for the tin man and woman.
And the real proof of this for me, because I'm the first transformation, The bottom line is, they said my career was over when I was 42. I started doing what now is called DDPY. Three months, less than three months later, Joey, I was back in the ring.
At 42, they said my career was over.
At 43, I'm the world champ.
And that's like getting our, that's our Oscar.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you're the guy.
You deserve this.
joe rogan
When I... You have the most eyes on you.
diamond dallas page
You know, I was in a match with Hogan, Flair, and Sting.
Three arguably, maybe, you know, in the top five biggest names ever.
And I walk out that world champion.
Ric Flair took the diamond cutter in the middle.
It was...
Hogan took...
Hogan gave me such a hug afterwards.
Like, this is what this business is supposed to be.
That someone like you, who no one would believe would ever be anyone...
Could work so hard that they would become the world champ.
When I got my Hall of Fame ring in 2017, inside I had inscribed in here, work ethic equals dreams, explanation point, DDP. And that's what it is.
You know, I don't tell you anything.
You understand putting the work in.
joe rogan
Yeah, putting the work in is everything.
Now, you're back today.
Did you ever get an MRI on it?
diamond dallas page
Oh yeah, I did all that.
joe rogan
But now?
diamond dallas page
Now, you know, I don't have any, I don't, if I don't do it, if I'm on too many planes, trains, and automobiles, you know, then I'm going to get released.
But I know what to do.
Like, I'd say to my wife, and I swear to God, because every morning I do, I roll out of bed some nights and you feel like you get hit by a truck.
You know what I mean?
Sleeping's the worst thing for me because I get in those positions that I don't know I'm in.
And when I wake up, I'm like, oh, Yeah, you'll nod it up.
But as soon as I do, within eight minutes, I feel like a completely different person because I know what to do.
joe rogan
So your disc, though, was completely gone?
diamond dallas page
No, they're gone.
It was literally bone on bone.
joe rogan
And is it still like that?
diamond dallas page
Yeah, but this is something I'm trying to tell you, Joe, which makes what I'm doing different than regular yoga.
Not just the...
I always say most yogis are very namaste.
DDPY way more T&A. And I met T&A in the beginning.
But what I mean today is tone and attitude.
Because it's an attitude, it's a tone.
joe rogan
You switched it up.
You kept the same letters.
diamond dallas page
Yes, it worked.
It worked like that.
But, you know, it's just, for me, it's, as you know this, repetition is the mother of learning.
The more you do something, the more you own it.
And on that clip, I want to show you something I brought with me because I've been waiting for For your show to release this, I've got a new book coming out.
And no one's seen this cover yet.
And it is called...
Yeah, it's premiere.
And I'm doing something...
I don't think anybody has ever really done this.
Now, this isn't the book itself.
This is just the cover.
joe rogan
It's in the plastic and everything.
diamond dallas page
It's in the plastic.
It's called Positively Unstoppable, The Art of Owning It.
joe rogan
Ooh, I like it.
diamond dallas page
What is it?
It's whatever the fuck you want it to be.
joe rogan
Check that out.
Diamond Dallas Page, bitches.
Look at that.
unidentified
That's beautiful.
diamond dallas page
Mick Foley wrote, the funniest, most entertaining forward you could ever...
joe rogan
I want to get that guy on.
That guy's hilarious.
diamond dallas page
I get that happening in a heartbeat.
joe rogan
He's friends with my friend Tony Hinchcliffe, who's a giant pro wrestling fan.
And it's given me so much grief, because Tony's such a fan.
I've made fun of wrestling, because Tony's a fan.
Tony is such a dork for it.
They do this podcast at the Comedy Store.
What do they call it?
The Four...
No.
What is it?
diamond dallas page
Not the Four Horsemen.
joe rogan
No.
No, no, no.
They have a wrestling podcast that I was just on two weeks ago.
Store Horseman.
The Store Horseman.
So these comics from the Comedy Store are gigantic pro wrestling fans.
diamond dallas page
I want to do that show.
joe rogan
I'll set it up.
And they do simulcasts.
So while Wrestlemania is going on, we do a thing for the UFC sometimes called the Fight Companion.
While the fights are going on, we'll get a bunch of guys in here to drink beers and talk shit.
diamond dallas page
I love that show.
joe rogan
They do that while WrestleMania is going on.
Right, right.
diamond dallas page
On that note, Jake the Snake Roberts is working a deal right now with Hooters in Vegas, and they're talking about giving him a room, and he will do Monday Night Raw.
joe rogan
Somebody contacted me about him as well.
Someone from his organization contacted me.
And you helped him.
diamond dallas page
Yes.
joe rogan
And I saw some sort of a program on television where it was detailing you helping him get clean and you getting him involved in yoga.
What you're doing is really fucking awesome because you're exposing something that I think should be It just should be something that everybody does.
I just really think that all athletes, all people, I think yoga is a life staple.
I really do.
diamond dallas page
When I got through this, when I got through wrestling, I could have easily stepped into that yoga community and went the whole Namaste route.
But that's not who I am.
I know that the yoga people, like, they get it!
They don't need me.
The people who need me is all those people that, literally, that have nobody.
And they don't have any direction.
Did you see the disabled veteran that I helped?
joe rogan
No, I did not.
I'm just amazed that you could do what you do with no discs.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
I don't understand that, because everybody that I know that has had no discs has had, like, serious muscle atrophy and...
diamond dallas page
Well, because they didn't stay, didn't figure it out.
Like, I had to figure it out.
joe rogan
What did you figure out, though?
What did you do differently?
I love that shirt, by the way.
Ego kills talent.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
What a fucking great shirt.
Where'd you get that?
diamond dallas page
That's my buddy, Josh, who brought me in.
He's got a line called Beverly Kills.
joe rogan
That's a great shirt.
That's such a good point.
diamond dallas page
Does it really, like, make the point?
I mean, that's why I wore it, because I knew you would love it, and I love this shirt.
I wear it all the time.
He's got a couple of them that are really cool.
joe rogan
Where can someone get that if they wanted to buy that?
diamond dallas page
I think it's beverlykills.com.
I'm pretty sure.
So this is Arthur Borman.
This is disabled veteran.
joe rogan
This is what DDP Yoga is or DDPY. Is there a link for this where Jamie could get a hold of it?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
joe rogan
He could put it on the YouTube?
diamond dallas page
Absolutely.
If you go to DDPYoga.com, At the bottom of ddpyoga.com is the video of Arthur.
So let me show you this now.
joe rogan
Show Jamie the image of him so he could look for it on your website.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, if you want to go all the way to the bottom of ddpyoga.com, it'll be sitting at the bottom.
joe rogan
And what was wrong with Arthur?
diamond dallas page
Okay, let me just tell you the back story.
This is crazy.
Anyone who got my program 11 years ago...
It was just workouts, period.
It was three different levels.
And this first one was called 50 Plus.
It's kind of like what I'm doing today where I'm helping people who are really disabled.
Okay, there he is right there.
You want to watch it?
joe rogan
Sure.
diamond dallas page
Hey, let's watch it.
joe rogan
Okay, can we play this on YouTube?
diamond dallas page
Yeah, start from the beginning.
This is awesome.
joe rogan
Doctor told me never walk unassisted again.
It says So for the people just listening it says for 15 years Doctors told me I would never walk unassisted again And we're seeing this gentleman with those crutches, those cane things on his forearms.
I accepted this as fact.
I was a 47 year old disabled veteran and I had basically given up.
I was injured as a paratrooper in the Gulf War.
Too many jumps.
Took its toll on his back.
Oh, man.
Watch it on his land.
And my knees, it says.
I gained weight.
We'll just watch an image of it.
All this stuff is available online at ddpyoga.com, right?
Is that what it is?
diamond dallas page
This video, yes.
This has got mazillions and mazillions of views.
joe rogan
That's a good number.
It says he couldn't walk or run.
Exercise seemed impossible.
Most yoga instructors turn me away.
This music's killing me.
All but one.
All but one, motherfucker.
It says he didn't know me, but he believed in me when no one else did.
How long is this video?
diamond dallas page
Four minutes.
The payoff is worth it, brother.
joe rogan
Look at him doing it here.
diamond dallas page
See, I was using a chair.
joe rogan
Yeah.
To hold on to.
For balance.
diamond dallas page
Well, to get up, get down.
joe rogan
Says, I fell many times.
Yeah.
But I got back up.
diamond dallas page
It's all about getting back up, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is very impressive.
Just watching him do what he's doing here.
This guy's got heart.
You know, the attitude to do something, even though it's difficult and in pain, is so damn important.
It is so important.
People have to force themselves to do something.
And this guy is one of the best examples of that you're ever going to see.
I mean, who had a better excuse to give up than this guy?
Wow!
Look at all this weight he's lost.
This is crazy.
diamond dallas page
He's a teacher in Baltimore.
joe rogan
He's lost a shitload of weight.
It looks like he's lost like eight inches off of his belly.
At least.
Says, I started to believe that it could happen.
So in this progress thing, you're seeing him trying to walk without his canes and falling down.
diamond dallas page
Flat on his face.
Yeah.
Starting to build his core strength.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
He's getting ready to do handstands now.
Oh my god.
unidentified
This guy crashes into a fucking china cabinet.
joe rogan
I love it.
He's gonna kill the cat.
Get out of there, cat.
diamond dallas page
He just said, just because I can't do it today doesn't mean I won't be able to do it someday.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him here, man.
Full push-ups.
Wow, walking with one cane now.
That's incredible.
What a difference in his posture and everything.
Look how much weight he's lost.
And how often was he doing it?
Every day?
diamond dallas page
Every day.
Sometimes twice a day.
So remember the pictures I showed you, right?
Check this out.
Couldn't stand on two legs?
joe rogan
Now he's standing on one and holding his foot up in the air.
That is insane.
Look how slim he got.
Holy shit!
He lost a hundred pounds in six months.
And he's holding that cat.
That cat's gonna die.
I told that cat, get out of there.
diamond dallas page
Watch this brother.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
He's running.
That is insane.
He's not just walking, he's running.
diamond dallas page
Sprinting.
Holy shit!
unidentified
That is incredible!
joe rogan
That really is incredible.
Wow!
unidentified
Look how fucking slim he is!
joe rogan
That is really amazing.
What is the name of...
It says Never Give Up.
What is the name of this video so people can find it?
diamond dallas page
Never Give Up.
If you go to ddpyoga.com, it's right at the bottom.
joe rogan
Whoa, look at him!
Look at the difference in him.
He looks like he's 10 years younger.
Lost 140 pounds in 10 months.
diamond dallas page
Holy shit.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
That is crazy.
Standing on his head.
That is crazy.
That is crazy.
That's so amazing, man.
diamond dallas page
I'm going to show you a picture that no one's seen this.
I'm saving this for a TED talk that I'm going to do.
And they've been asking me a couple times to do it, and I just wasn't ready, but now I am.
I'm just waiting.
Eventually, they're going to get a hold of me again, and I'm going to do it.
And I'm going to base it around anything that's possible.
joe rogan
I'm crying, man.
diamond dallas page
It did choke you up, right?
joe rogan
It did.
diamond dallas page
I told you it was a payoff.
I mean, like, strong.
And my business partner, Steve Yu, Put that together.
And I literally did it with his son originally, and it was pretty good.
But Steve just took it.
He's the same guy who directed The Resurrection and Jake the Snake.
So let me finish with him.
In 10 months, he lost The 140 pounds.
But fuck the weight.
Because this is not about weight loss.
It's just an awesome side effect.
And think about that.
With my shit, you can lose weight.
But you know you can't out-train a bad diet.
So you've got to do everything.
You've got to, more than anything, change your mindset, which is what Positively Unstoppable is all about.
Changing your mindset and owning that inner voice, the story you tell yourself.
So, Arthur lost 140 pounds.
More importantly, he lost some knee braces, back braces, and canes.
joe rogan
No more knee braces.
diamond dallas page
No more knee braces.
joe rogan
How did he do that?
diamond dallas page
Let me finish.
Knee braces and canes, not just to walk, but run.
But this is what the program is really about.
At one year, he's 5'6", took a picture of his 6'2 son.
joe rogan
That's insane.
Standing on his back while he's doing a push-up in one year.
diamond dallas page
One year.
joe rogan
Imagine if you didn't see him for a year.
Hey man, let's go have lunch.
I haven't seen you in a long time.
Like, who the fuck are you?
diamond dallas page
Where's Arthur?
And that's really, like, it was crazy because, again, anybody who got my program 11 years ago, I, personally, there was no one else but me, I would send them an email saying, hey, man, I'm not trying to sell you anything.
You already bought the program, and I want to say thank you, and I got a couple questions.
If you would answer them, I'd appreciate it.
His answers were...
So good that I wrote him back and I'd never written anybody like directly that I didn't know at this time.
And I wrote him back and I said, sounds like you need some help, bro.
I said, what's your story?
Cliff notes, disabled veteran, morbidly obese, relegated to thinking of himself as a piece of furniture.
So I say, send me some pictures so I can see what I was working with.
And those are the pictures, those first two with the canes.
And I was like, fuck, man.
I don't know how I can help him because not so much the knee braces.
Hell, I wore knee braces my whole career.
I didn't realize it was strapped to a back brace and his wife, 20 minutes every morning, got to put her on the sleeve, put on the brace because he can't even bend over enough to do it.
And so she puts them all together.
20 minutes later, he's going to the bathroom with his canes.
So I sent him this food plan, which is like my phase three eating plan, which is for health, but I got it from a guy named Dr. Fred Bishy.
And at the time, Fred was 78, could still run 20 miles on the beach in the deep sand with my brother.
Like, that's his mentor.
He helped people with cancer and all sorts of shit.
This guy's like, he's just a different level of walking the talk.
joe rogan
So you have a food plan as well as an exercise plan.
unidentified
Everything.
joe rogan
And what kind of food do you have to meet in?
diamond dallas page
Well, this is what I like to do.
Let's go back to what God created.
Shit that's not genetically modified.
All right?
Shit that's not sprayed with chemicals.
So let's call it organic.
Or like your great-grandparents used to call it, fucking food.
Like, it's everything.
Go to Italy.
Go to France.
They don't have to say, can I have the organic vegetables?
joe rogan
What?
diamond dallas page
Like, everything's fucking organic here, bozo.
You know, like, that's the way it's supposed to be.
I mean, when you look at just the...
The obesity, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, autism.
Like, how is it through the roof?
How are there 400-pound guys everywhere?
25 years ago, that didn't happen.
Right.
You know?
And then they changed everything.
And as far as I'm concerned, there's three reasons why it could have happened.
Because I don't know.
I'm not a scientist.
I'm a fucking wrestler.
But I know when I get people to eat what God created and stuff that's not genetically modified, I found that they get out of pain, and that's what I did with Jake and Scott.
You know, Razor Ramon also moved into my house, and when you get a chance to watch, before you have Jake come on, definitely watch The Resurrection of Jake the Snake, because I can set you up with that too.
But Jake, I got him eating real food, and Scott Hall, aka Razor Ramon, eating real food.
And within two weeks, they're already going to start getting out of pain.
That's why I eat the way I eat.
joe rogan
Because I don't want to feel like I'm 82. I want to feel like I'm 42 at 62. Now when you talk about your food plan, are you giving them specific portions and what to eat?
How do you set it up?
diamond dallas page
On the app, which right now...
joe rogan
Oh, you have an app?
diamond dallas page
Oh, dude, I've got...
I think I have the most extensive app on the planet.
And it...
Like, let's just go to the workouts and I'll come back to the food.
joe rogan
Android and iPhone?
diamond dallas page
Everything, yes.
And right now you can get it...
joe rogan
What about a Windows phone?
diamond dallas page
I think it works on everything.
joe rogan
Nobody has one of those fucking things.
diamond dallas page
Whatever it is, we've set it up for everything that you can use.
And for your iPad, your computer.
And I didn't realize at the time that I set it up for the iPhone, the Droid, the iPad, the tablet, and the computer.
Like going back in time, I just would have done the phone.
Because, and the computer, because you can have your phone go right to the TV. You know, if you got Apple TV, you go whoosh.
But it cost me a lot more money to do it with all five units.
The bottom line is, I created this thing, like from Arthur's stuff.
I call it DDPY Rebuild.
You can't get out of bed?
You can't do the workout?
Bullshit.
I got three workouts in bed that have nothing to do with fucking.
It's just freaking working out for 10 minutes, 12 minutes will get you up and I call those bed flex.
Then I put you in chair force where you're sitting in a chair.
I got eight workouts in a fucking chair which gets you strong enough to hold the chair.
So I call those stand strong like Arthur was doing, help you get up, help you get down, help you balance, help to keep you from falling.
Then you're ready for beginner.
And once you get to all the modifications that I teach you with Stand Strong, I got a guy who's 84 years old.
His name is Ted Evans.
He's been working with me since he was 68. The motherfucker can do every workout I do.
Every workout.
Now, is he modified at times?
Yes.
But he can do every fucking workout I do.
And it goes all the way to extreme psycho shit.
Like, I did a workout today where I took my foot and held it out in front of me and held it for 30 seconds.
Then pulled it out.
Held it for 30 seconds.
This is all core stuff.
It's got to be the stuff...
God, it skips my mind right now.
The fighter, the UFC fighter, the French kid who was amazing.
joe rogan
Georges St-Pierre?
diamond dallas page
Yes.
I mean, nobody can ever take him down.
You know, they hook his leg and boom.
You're not taking him down.
He's going to hop around because of his core strength.
He had to be doing some of this type of stuff.
joe rogan
He does a lot of gymnastics.
diamond dallas page
Well, again, those guys are super freaks.
And as wrestlers or UFC guys, that's a whole different level.
And George Superior, I remember, nobody's taking him down.
I don't care how they hook his legs.
So he really gets all of that inner strength.
And that's really what I'm doing.
At a level that you can start in bed.
Right.
So there's no more fucking excuses.
joe rogan
No more fucking excuses.
And that's so damn important.
diamond dallas page
It is.
joe rogan
Because people can feel sorry for themselves.
They can say they can't do it.
They don't have the energy.
They're too beat up.
That's bullshit.
There's always something you can do.
Absolutely.
But if you give yourself that fucking excuse, that's the problem.
What I love about that video is if anybody had an excuse, it's that guy.
diamond dallas page
Absolutely.
joe rogan
That guy, I mean, two canes, giant belly, blown out knees, blown out back, veteran paratrooper, guy, I mean, jumping out of fucking airplanes over and over again, blows his body apart, and you fixed it.
And he fixed it.
diamond dallas page
He fixed it.
I just literally, like, here's so funny.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
diamond dallas page
So, would I send him the food plan, right, from Fred Bishy?
joe rogan
Explain the food plan, because it's just regular food, but like, what do you have the meaning?
unidentified
Like chicken, steak, fish, vegetables?
diamond dallas page
You'll hear me say in my program over and over and over and over and over again, make the DDPY your own.
And I explained to Arthur when I called him.
Well, here's what happened.
So I sent him the food plan.
Let me say it.
And if he writes me back, I think I can do it.
I'll give it a try.
joe rogan
You go crazy.
diamond dallas page
No, I go, hey, awesome.
Get me posted.
But he said four words.
Or he wrote four words.
I can do this.
I said, give me your number right now.
And I call the motherfucker up.
If you say you can and you say you can't, you're right.
You know that.
joe rogan
If you say you can or you say you can't.
diamond dallas page
You're right.
Do you know who said that originally?
joe rogan
Who?
diamond dallas page
Henry Ford.
joe rogan
He was right.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, and I always say, but what the fuck did he ever do?
You know, what the fuck did he ever do?
But when he said, I can do it, I said, give me your number.
So I called him.
And I said, you know, we talked for about an hour.
Two weeks later, he calls me back.
The main thing I talked to him in that conversation, which is, again, what Positively Unstoppable is all about, As important as the workout is, as important as the eating plan is, that 10% of the equation, the 90% is right between your ears.
Right here, that six inch piece of real estate, the story you tell yourself.
And I said, if you can really just get past that story and start re- Telling yourself a different story.
An example would be when I went for my whole theme, induction speech, in front of 20,000 people and millions of people on USA and on the WWE Network, which is only $9.99, by the way.
It's like a rib.
I wasn't in the back going, oh God, I hope I don't fuck this up.
Oh God, what if I forget what I was going to say?
Oh God, this sucks.
What if I fuck up?
I wasn't saying that.
I was saying this is going to be the best thing I've ever done.
I'm going to blow people away.
I'm going to make them laugh.
I'm going to make them cry.
I'm going to inspire them.
And that was my inner voice.
I went out there and did the best thing I've ever done.
Like, it's the best thing I've ever done.
But it's about that story that you tell yourself.
And you get all this shit.
And that's why people listen to you.
Because they need to be reminded it over and over and over again, you know?
joe rogan
The way you think about things is so important.
It's so important.
It's almost more important than the facts.
diamond dallas page
You're right.
Right.
joe rogan
And the way this guy decided that he was going to change his life.
That video is so important to people.
I mean, if there's ever...
That's the best testimonial video you're ever going to see.
diamond dallas page
Ever.
joe rogan
I mean, that guy is as broken as they get.
I mean, he's basically...
I mean, he easily could have been in a wheelchair.
Easily.
diamond dallas page
Well, he was.
And not any time he was going around.
You know, like any kind of...
You know, you go to the airport.
What do they put you in?
joe rogan
Put you in a wheelchair.
diamond dallas page
Because, I mean, it's too hard for people.
joe rogan
It's too hard for them to walk around.
diamond dallas page
And again, going back to eating...
So back to the food.
joe rogan
So what do you get them eating?
diamond dallas page
Well, again, I use, I get a mess.
Make the GDP while you're on.
You can do paleo if you want to do paleo.
You can do this keto diet, whatever you're doing with that.
I try to say, if you're early on and you're young, you know, I encourage them to do calorie counting.
Calories in, calories out.
But a lot of people, that doesn't work for anymore.
So what I get them to do is go gluten and dairy-free.
And really, I started with gluten-free.
If you can go and people go, oh, gluten-free.
All I know is the people I work with get out of pain.
I'm one of them.
So I don't give a fuck if you eat gluten or not.
I don't care.
I'm not the gluten fucking Nazis.
I'm fucking like, hey, do what the fuck you want to do.
But this is what I do.
This is what him and her and him and her do.
And look at them.
And it just helps drop weight.
It's about inflammation in your body.
Go back to icing your body.
Sugar, which we're all at explored.
I try to get them to cut down as much as they can.
Some people quit completely, which blows my mind, which tells me they really have that substance.
My friend Stacy Morris, who lost 180 pounds in 18 months, she's actually on the cover of Women's Day right now, that big magazine for Women's Day of her transformation.
She wrote a book on it, like something comfort, eating comfort or family comfort.
You can catch it up on my site.
It's up there.
She wrote this book about eating without sugar.
And that's like, I'm not telling anybody to do that because I can't do that.
You're right because I don't want to.
I want to still eat the sugar.
joe rogan
Occasionally, but you're just not being a glutton about it.
diamond dallas page
And I'm eating good sugars.
You know, like the honey that I'm putting in this gimmick is organic honey.
So the food part for the inflammation would be the sugar.
Dairy and wheat and gluten.
Get those out of your body.
I challenge you.
Have you ever gone gluten-free?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I have.
diamond dallas page
And how much better did you feel?
joe rogan
I feel really good.
Look, I'm basically gluten-free all the time, except for I take cheat days.
diamond dallas page
Oh, sure.
joe rogan
I'll take a cheat day and I'll have a bowl of pasta.
But for the most part, I rarely eat bread and I rarely eat anything, pasta or anything with wheat.
diamond dallas page
Well, let me give you this.
Two and a half weeks.
Let me give you an alternative.
I love pasta.
I mean, I'm an Irish-German-Dutch kid, but all my best friends were Genta, Cafaro, Rossi.
I mean, all my buddies were Gumbas, you know?
And so I love Italian food.
I fucking love it.
So there's a company called Tinchiata that has the best pasta I've ever had.
It's a brown rice pasta.
So there's always a substitute.
When you get that out of your body, In two and a half, three weeks, it's a different level.
You already feel better, you feel better, but it's got to get out of your body.
And then if you put it back in, here and there, you're going to feel it, but it's going to go way quicker because it doesn't have all that shit stored in your body.
joe rogan
Well, it also reminds me how shitty I feel after I eat it.
When I do eat a pizza, I'm just like, oh, laying on the couch like a lead weight to my stomach.
But what I substituted with is spaghetti squash.
I love spaghetti squash.
diamond dallas page
That is an awesome choice.
joe rogan
Spaghetti squash with some garlic and marinara sauce.
It's fantastic.
And it's guilt-free.
diamond dallas page
That's one of our recipes.
The way our app is set up, our DDP Yoga Now app, and like I said, anybody who wants to try it, fuck it, it costs you nothing.
Go try it for seven days.
You like it?
Like it.
Get out of it.
I don't give a fuck.
I mean, I don't.
I mean, I only want people who want to put the work in.
Some people will say to me, well, how much do I have to do it?
I say you don't.
joe rogan
You don't have to do anything.
diamond dallas page
Don't fucking do it.
I don't want you to do it.
I want you to own it and really do it or not.
And I'll try to inspire you because every Monday I've got Motivational Mondays on the app.
Every Monday I'm doing another story about something I saw and I'm bringing it to you.
Three minutes, it could be eight minutes.
joe rogan
Is it a video on the app?
unidentified
Is that what it is?
diamond dallas page
Yes.
There's 150 of them up there, because I've been doing it for two and a half years.
And then every week we have a new recipe come out.
And I'm not just going to tell you what's in it and how to make it.
I'm going to fucking show you how to make it.
Because we've got it in our DDP Yoga Performance Center, which is in Smyrna, Georgia.
Which, by the way, every first time you come in there, it's free.
Name me another fucking gym or something like that that does that.
joe rogan
How far is that from Dallas?
Atlanta?
Atlanta, rather.
diamond dallas page
Well, it's literally 20 minutes from the heart of Atlanta.
I mean, it's one of the suburbs.
joe rogan
Next time I'm in Atlanta, when I'm doing a gig, I'm going to stop in.
diamond dallas page
Dude, no, you're going to stay.
You're going to stay.
I just bought a crib that, literally, one of my buddies, Titus, who's from the WWE, is coming in on Tuesday to train with me.
I got a hyperbaric chamber now.
joe rogan
Whoa.
diamond dallas page
Yes, 12 PSI. I got a cryo system.
In my house.
joe rogan
What about float tanks?
diamond dallas page
I don't have that yet.
joe rogan
You ever fuck with one?
diamond dallas page
You know, I haven't because I'm kind of scared of that.
unidentified
I'm just being honest!
diamond dallas page
You can't be scared.
joe rogan
How are you scared?
You sounded like the people you're screaming against.
diamond dallas page
No, I do, but I'm being honest, bro.
When I first got in the chamber...
joe rogan
Can I get you in one?
Can I get you in one today?
diamond dallas page
You know what?
joe rogan
Oh, I need an hour.
diamond dallas page
Success!
joe rogan
You're going to want to have one in your house, I guarantee you.
It's the most relaxing thing ever.
diamond dallas page
Okay, I can easily get out of it.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, just push the door open.
diamond dallas page
Okay, cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's easy.
Super easy.
diamond dallas page
Only because you inspired me.
You inspired the fuck out of me.
Thank you.
This was so crazy.
joe rogan
Feelings mutual.
diamond dallas page
Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
You know, I knew we were going to get along like incredibly.
But here's what happened.
I've been reaching out to different people like Eddie Bravo.
He's a buddy of mine.
joe rogan
He just got his disc replaced.
diamond dallas page
Did he really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a lower back.
His disc was so bad, he could barely get out of bed.
And he had a titanium articulating disc put in his back.
He feels way better now.
And he gained an inch.
He's 5'9 now.
diamond dallas page
Which is pretty sweet because of all the technology that they have today.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
diamond dallas page
That can help that.
joe rogan
His discs were all smashed from jiu-jitsu.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
Especially his lower back.
diamond dallas page
You know, I've always said, like, Eddie Bravo.
Like, he did what...
To the jiu-jitsu community, what I've done in the yoga community.
joe rogan
Just take a totally different path.
unidentified
Right.
diamond dallas page
I don't want to be in the yoga world.
I want to be way the fuck over there.
I want to be the different guy then.
But we were just talking about what we were talking about right before.
No, but after that, I'd reached out to a bunch of different guys.
I've heard you talk about DDPY and what we're doing, and you've talked about a lot of cool stuff, and you've segued me into a couple.
I'm like, I've got to get on this show, and I think we'll get along amazingly.
And then I saw on YouTube, it was somebody that put together a bunch of your clips from the show.
And I'm listening to it.
I'm like, man, this motherfucker sounds just like me.
I mean, I got to get on this show.
And I literally, when I finished watching it, I literally looked up.
I went, God, I'm throwing this out in the universe.
I want to get on Rogan's show within the next year.
Two days later, you DM me.
unidentified
Whoa.
diamond dallas page
Two days later, you DM me.
joe rogan
I've been meaning to DM you forever.
I mean, it's one of those things where it's just, unfortunately or fortunately, there's just so many different requests for people to come on the podcast.
I can't keep up.
diamond dallas page
No, I get it.
joe rogan
It's just I can't.
It's impossible.
But you've been in the back of my head for a long time.
And I think that yoga, like I said, is so important.
And I think what you've done is make it accessible to people that wouldn't have considered it before.
diamond dallas page
Alright, you gotta do me a favor.
joe rogan
Okay, what do I gotta do?
diamond dallas page
When you're talking about what the fuck I do, DDPY. DDPY. Say that and not yoga?
Yes.
joe rogan
Okay.
diamond dallas page
Because it's different, you know?
Mainly because people put it in a box, you know?
joe rogan
Right, I know what you're saying.
diamond dallas page
And you get it.
Like, will you do a workout with me?
joe rogan
Yes, I would love to.
Aubrey did it, my partner in Onnit.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Yes!
diamond dallas page
I love Aubrey!
Yes!
unidentified
He loved it.
joe rogan
He said, dude, it's badass.
He said he's definitely doing something different.
His take was, he's like, he's doing yoga, but he's got a whole other edge to it.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, and I keep, again, making it my own, and I encourage everybody.
What's really cool about, I've got some workouts that have me and like two people or four people behind me, and they're like the introductory.
There's always someone modifying.
Like when I first started doing yoga, No one modified shit.
They never told you so.
I had to figure this shit out.
So anything I did, I gave you a mod.
How do you make this easier?
Step in.
Lower to a knee.
Don't blow yourself out.
Now, the thing that you don't know, and I gave you one of Mark DDP Yoga mats with a bag, inside it is a Bluetooth heart monitor.
And what that's going to do is connect right to the app.
So are you an iPhone guy or a droid?
joe rogan
I have iPhone, but I'm going to switch over.
I'm tired of their bullshit.
diamond dallas page
Oh, I get that too.
But I'm sort of like an addict of not wanting to learn again.
But you know, they got that mirroring thing, so it pops right up on your TV. Up there will come where your heart rate's at.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
diamond dallas page
And then it tracks you.
At the end of it, how long have you not been in your zone?
How long have you been in your zone?
And how long have you been over your zone?
Think about this.
joe rogan
Who did this app for you?
diamond dallas page
Myself, Steve Yu, who's the president of my company, and we hired these guys out of Turkey because they all went to Georgia Tech.
And it's way cheaper, but it's been a long time.
I've got probably coming up on $3 million in it.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
diamond dallas page
It sounds fantastic.
It's extensive.
And again, there's a lot of interaction with it.
We make it like a video game at the end.
So when it gets to the end, it'll go...
unidentified
You get to the end of Mario Brothers?
diamond dallas page
Right!
That's exactly what I wanted.
unidentified
Beautiful.
joe rogan
You hit the next level.
So when you're putting all this stuff together, this has got to be a long process of refining and getting it just right.
I mean, this must have taken over your life.
diamond dallas page
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely, but I go on the road all the time.
I do Comic Cons.
Do you ever do Comic Cons?
joe rogan
No, no, I've never done.
I want to.
diamond dallas page
Dude, you have to.
You will fucking have a line forever.
joe rogan
I used to be a comic book dork, man.
I had to sell them all when I was poor.
I had all these comic books that I collected from the time I was a little kid, and then when I became a stand-up comedian and I was starving in the early days, I sold all my comic books and just...
It's just a bummer, man.
I'm scared to go look at comic books again.
diamond dallas page
No, don't do that because it'll just piss you off.
Do you know who Adi Shankar is?
joe rogan
No.
diamond dallas page
Did you see...
There was a Power Ranger bootleg video that came out like...
Maybe four years ago, five years ago, I think it was five years ago.
And it blew up on YouTube, got like five million views, which, you know, back then, that was fucking huge.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
diamond dallas page
So the guy who owns the Power Rangers put a lawsuit on Adi and YouTube, and they had to pull it off.
Next thing you know, Adi's on CNN, and they're asking him about it, and he's like, fuck him.
He goes, he doesn't I mean, we're not trying to make money.
We're not monetizing this.
And next thing you know, he pulled the thing off, the lawsuit off, and now it's got like 22 million.
And this is something that he did because he's produced a bunch of movies, but they kept changing his shit.
Like, wouldn't let him do what he wanted to do.
And this last one was Judge Dredd.
And five years ago, or a little before that, he's telling me how he's going to do this shit on YouTube.
And I'm like, what the fuck do you mean you're going to put shorts on YouTube?
Well, he did that one.
He's got 22 million views right now.
And that really became like this underground, you know, Yoda-type person of the internet.
And he sent me a script about three years ago when we started it, and it's called Gods.
And it's kind of like, you know, all superheroes, as you know, they're all slightly different but the same.
And it's a very dark, dark superhero series that's, well, when you get to the fighting part of it, it will remind you of like, "FIGHT!" You know, from the 80s friggin' video game.
joe rogan
Mortal Kombat.
diamond dallas page
Right, shit like that.
Meets a really dark story that, it's gonna be a Netflix original.
Oh, that's interesting.
Something to watch.
Well, I think you'll dig it.
Well, I love "The Watchmen." It's kind of a little bit like that, but not.
joe rogan
I was hoping they were going to do a sequel, and I'd heard that they...
Weren't they planning on that, Jamie?
Is that something they're working on?
It was so good.
I was like, how did they not follow up on this?
diamond dallas page
I don't know, you know, but we're going to...
We have, like I say, it's in the process right now, putting together audience brains behind it, but it's something I'm...
You're into comics and stuff.
You'll love it, I think.
joe rogan
It's going to be on HBO. Oh, shit.
diamond dallas page
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Is that the series?
diamond dallas page
I heard that, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, but different people, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
All right.
Well, I'm down for that.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, I'll check it out, man.
joe rogan
HBO, man.
I love HBO. They gotta pick up the slack.
Netflix is coming in strong.
diamond dallas page
They are, boy.
joe rogan
HBO's like, fuck, man.
Gather up the troops.
There's a war going on.
Fucking Ozark's back, baby.
diamond dallas page
I love that show.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
I'm two episodes in.
Damn, it's a good show.
diamond dallas page
Did you see the first Sinner?
joe rogan
Sinner?
Oh, no, I haven't seen that show.
I heard that's very good.
That's Jessica Biel.
diamond dallas page
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
How hot is she?
diamond dallas page
Smoking, but they made her look...
joe rogan
She's one of them confusing people.
Like, you're around her, you're like, I don't know what my opinions are.
I'm gonna change them.
You tell me what your opinions are.
I'll take those.
diamond dallas page
She comes off as really like girl next door.
joe rogan
Yeah.
diamond dallas page
But that friggin show right there, my wife and Brenda and my daughter Lexi, she was there.
We watched all eight episodes.
Damn.
One after another on a Sunday afternoon.
We were like pulled in.
My wife had seen, Brenda had seen, they were playing it on the plane.
And when she came back, she's like, I couldn't finish watching it.
You've got to get this.
I'll watch it from the beginning again.
It's not good.
It's badass.
joe rogan
There's so many good shows now.
It's a really interesting time to be a A consumer.
diamond dallas page
Oh, absolutely, man.
Yeah, I'm big on the Netflix and Sneaky Pete.
Did you ever see any of that?
joe rogan
No, I heard that's great, too.
That's on Amazon, right?
diamond dallas page
Yeah, it's on Amazon, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, everyone's just...
That Goliath is supposed to be fantastic on Amazon, too.
That's that Billy Bob Thornton show.
diamond dallas page
Oh, I love the first season.
I haven't got to the second one yet, but...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a crazy time.
Have you thought about doing something like that?
Like, maybe on Netflix or something along those lines?
Like, having...
Sort of like inspirational clips mixed in with your workouts with these people, showing transformations?
diamond dallas page
You know, a good friend of mine...
joe rogan
That would be a great idea.
diamond dallas page
Do you know who Tim Sabian is?
joe rogan
I know the name, yeah.
diamond dallas page
He was Howard Stern's main guy for years.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why I know him.
That's why I know the name.
diamond dallas page
And he just came up to me.
He was at that show I was telling you about, All In, this weekend.
And he was like, dude...
Twitch is the future.
We've got to do something with this.
And I've heard of Twitch, but it was like video game.
You know, people watching video game stuff?
He said, yeah, but it's going to go to a whole new level.
And Sabian's a really smart guy.
And I'm actually helping him get back on track with his health.
So he's going to come to Atlanta and see me.
He's going to talk to me and Steve and figure out what we do.
I'm all over.
This company would never be successful.
Without the internet.
Without people sharing that Arthur video everywhere.
You know, and there's so many other videos that we've had go viral.
One of my favorites, and I'll get this to you, my buddy named Mark Merrow.
He's a former wrestler, Marvelous Mark Merrow.
Back when we wrestled together, he was Johnny B. Badd.
joe rogan
He changed his name from Johnny to Mark?
diamond dallas page
Well, his real name was Mark.
He actually was.
Actually, Mark Murrow is a four-time New York Empire State Games boxing champion.
Yeah, from back in the day when he was a kid.
But he's become this inspirational speaker to kids.
I've never seen anybody move kids the way he does.
So he was in Atlanta one day and I sent my crew down there because I got a whole production studio.
Like, Resurrection, we filmed it, we edited it, we did everything.
And I sent my crew down there to just go down and film them.
And Steve took this one part where he talks about his mom.
Now, no bullshit, Joe.
I can show you how this one four-minute clip that Steve produced has over a half a billion views on Facebook.
Like half a billion.
And now, Mark went from having trouble getting booked at high schools to being in such demand that he had 3,000 requests the month that that video went crazy.
And people keep taking it and putting it out there.
But he connects with kids.
It starts out with, I want to be rich.
I want to be famous.
And then he shows you, as you know, what can come with that if you're not frigging mentally prepared to handle that.
And I don't know how any fucking kid can be 18, 19, 20 years old I don't think they can.
joe rogan
I've never seen anybody succeed.
diamond dallas page
LeBron.
joe rogan
You know what?
I think one of the reasons why a guy like him has succeeded because his success comes along with athletic performance.
It's not just like being Justin Bieber or being some sort of a musical superstar.
I think the struggle of the athletic pursuit is one of the things that keeps you humble because there's no way to get around the work.
And the work keeps you humble.
I mean, the kind of work that you have to put in to be a LeBron James, I don't care how genetically gifted he is.
I mean, clearly, he's a fucking freak athlete.
diamond dallas page
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
But he's also got a powerful mind.
When you hear that guy talk, there was some sort of a roundtable thing he was doing.
I don't know if you saw this with Jon Stewart and a few other people.
unidentified
Yeah, it's on HBO also.
joe rogan
Is that his show?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When that guy talks, you go- What is it called?
diamond dallas page
What is it?
unidentified
The Barbershop.
diamond dallas page
Okay, I gotta watch that.
I love LeBron.
joe rogan
When he talks, you go, okay, there's a fucking nuclear furnace burning inside that guy.
That's why he's so successful.
It's not just him being a freak athlete.
It's the mind.
His mind.
But that hard work and that dedication in his mind is the reason why he's still so good and keeps it together.
At, you know, what is he, 35 now?
33?
33?
diamond dallas page
He's been around forever.
joe rogan
Been around for a long time, but been super fucking successful for a long time.
diamond dallas page
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
And never fucked up.
Never drove his car into a tree.
Never punched a cop.
Never got crazy.
I mean, he's kept it together in a rare way that very few superstars do.
Right.
Because you know it.
I'm sure you went from when you first started into pro wrestling to becoming super famous.
It's a...
It's an intoxicating drug.
diamond dallas page
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And it's a confusing drug.
It confuses the shit out of a lot of people.
Fortunately for you, you were already a man.
diamond dallas page
Right, and that was the big difference.
I have to say, starting at 35 was the worst thing physically, because one of my matches, or any of these kids, it's like four or five car accidents.
joe rogan
Right.
diamond dallas page
One match.
joe rogan
Yeah, legitimately.
diamond dallas page
Every night.
joe rogan
Yeah.
diamond dallas page
And I said, as hard as it was starting at 35, the really positive side was, I was 35. Right.
So I was much smarter.
joe rogan
More disciplined, more mature.
diamond dallas page
Way more.
And I was telling you about when you come to Atlanta, you're going to stay at my place, man.
My wife is amazing.
We have the best bed and breakfast.
And there's like five rooms that are all king-size beds.
Because again, I'm getting ready to work with top athletes.
You look at LeBron, you look at Brady.
How do they perform in such a liver?
Especially Brady, being 40 years old now.
joe rogan
Pretty crazy.
diamond dallas page
But it's the way he eats, which is pretty much the way I eat.
joe rogan
Isn't he a vegan, though?
diamond dallas page
He doesn't eat lagoons.
It's very strict.
Again, the way I eat, I still want the beef.
But I don't eat it all the time now.
I used to eat that shit all the time.
I used to eat 12 eggs in the morning, now I eat 8. You know, five yolks and three whites.
But again, it's keeping the protein in.
But he's eating for health.
Let's just call it that.
And he's not beating up his body outside, you know, of what he's doing.
When he gets hit, he beats up his body.
But before that, all he's doing is strengthening his body.
And that's what DDP-wise is, strengthening you.
Like, I just was reading something.
I love that...
Gurley, Todd didn't play in any preseason stuff this year.
He don't need that.
He's going to be out there.
He's going to be in the best shape.
He's not going to put his body already through abuse.
You know, so it's just like wherever you can, everything that you do with jiu-jitsu, MMA, UFC, NFL, getting to the show is the thing.
And when you get to the show, you have two jobs.
One, be the best player you can be, the best performer.
Two, don't get hurt.
joe rogan
You know what's crazy about Tom Brady?
He looks like someone's dad.
Like, you see him on the beach.
He don't look like, you know, you see Herschel Walker without his shirt off, you go, Jesus fucking Christ, what lab was that guy creating in?
diamond dallas page
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
But you see Tom Brady, like, oh, there's Mike's dad.
You know what I mean?
He's totally normal looking.
I mean, he doesn't look bad.
He looks like he's in good shape.
There he is.
Look at that.
What?
What the fuck?
How's that possible?
How is that the greatest quarterback of all time?
That's Mike's dad.
diamond dallas page
Work ethic.
joe rogan
But it's obviously his mind, too.
I mean, that's fucking insane.
And that guy ain't sucking in his gut for anybody.
You could suck his dick.
How about that?
He's not sucking in his gut.
He lets that thing hang out.
Look at it.
I mean, it's a couple of inches over his fucking shorts.
diamond dallas page
He doesn't give a shit.
Let him relax.
joe rogan
He doesn't give a shit.
diamond dallas page
He's got that gorgeous wife with him.
He's covered.
joe rogan
He's got perfect life.
Her and Jessica Biel together created some sort of a nuclear explosion.
Too hot.
Yeah, it's crazy.
diamond dallas page
It's crazy.
It's about healing your body, especially when you're in that spot.
And that's what I can do for these guys.
And you'll see, as we work out, you'll get it.
And, you know, it is everything.
joe rogan
I want to go back to your back.
See, this is what I don't understand.
The conventional wisdom is when it's bone on bone.
Like, you're fucked.
There's too much inflammation there.
There's too much grinding.
And you're just, it's just going to be too painful to do anything and you're going to have to do some sort of a surgery.
How does the yoga, is it because all the muscles strengthen the DDPY? There we go.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
How does the DDPY do that to you?
Is it just the strengthening all the core muscles around your spine stabilizes everything and keeps it from moving?
diamond dallas page
The only thing I can give a memory joke, I'm a fucking wrestler.
I'm not a nightclub owner.
I've been working in the bar business my whole life.
That's what I did before this.
But for some reason, I'm just gifted with figuring shit out.
Like on my app, there's a guy named Jerry Cameron, disabled vet, in a wheelchair for two and a half years.
There's no weight to lose.
He's 6'5", 240, looks great, but he's got the walker that he got after two and a half years of being in the chair, got himself out.
Now all this is on my app, on my, in my, we can rebuild you.
I'm doing my own little show.
We can rebuild you.
I trademarked that name, and you remember what that's from.
$6 million.
We can rebuild you.
So that's our thing, right?
So Jerry, we have him over a seven-week period.
Now he's got a long way to go still, but you will be so amazed every show that comes up how he gains just a little bit more.
joe rogan
Just a little incremental steps.
diamond dallas page
Exactly.
But the confidence.
We reached out to our community in Smyrna, Georgia.
And we said, we're looking for people that want our help.
Cost them nothing.
If you'll be part of our group, and we can track you, you can come, go, do our stuff.
And we gave them the app, we set them up.
And out of the 12 or 13 that started, we still have like seven.
And this is like eight weeks later.
And to see their stories, like we follow them.
Every couple of weeks we'll pop up and show where they're at and what they're doing.
But Jerry, I got a special spot in mind just like you do for military guys.
You know, I've been to Iraq three times, Afghanistan once.
You've done those tours for 13 days.
unidentified
I haven't.
diamond dallas page
Oh, you haven't done it yet?
unidentified
No.
diamond dallas page
Oh, you should because they would freak the fuck out over you.
They would love you.
But I started in 2004 with that shit.
joe rogan
And over that period- Were you with Brian Williams when he was getting shot down?
diamond dallas page
No, no, no, no, no.
I just, you know, I hate...
No, I did not.
joe rogan
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
diamond dallas page
The bottom line is I have a fun spot for those guys.
And I have something...
joe rogan
As I do as well.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, I know.
And there's something I'm about to do off of my app that's going to be...
Life-changing for a lot of those guys.
I just don't have it all put together yet, but it's one of the things that I'm working on right now because I want to be able to give back to help them.
I do stuff with their organizations.
People start them.
I just did one with Ma Deuce Deuce in New Jersey, where I'm from.
I live in Point Pleasant, Bricktown's the next town over.
I went over there and I did one for the guys there.
I had like 75 guys there and guys in their families.
Every one of those to say well that's I've given the app you know because I just want you to do it because if you do it You're gonna feel better.
I don't know how much better How much work are you gonna put in you know, it all comes down to the work ethic like where you are how much work you put in where can you get right and where it I my program Meet you where you are.
And that's the whole thing with Jerry.
To watch where he is.
The last episode, I don't want to tell you what happened because I know eventually you'll get around to it and you're going to be like, wow, this fucking shit's crazy.
And to answer your question on the back, all I can think of I'm constantly lengthening and strengthening.
I stretched my whole wrestling, my whole athletic career, right up until I was 42 and three quarters when I blew my back out.
I stretched.
So stretching is great, but it's not the end-all be-all.
I'm stretching and strengthening the muscles, ligaments, and tendons.
When you use the resistance and the dynamic, time under tension, When you do that, it elevates your heart rate.
Think about this.
Laying down, your heart rate's the lowest ever, right?
Sit up.
What happens?
Your heart rate goes up.
Stand.
Walk.
Jog.
Sprint.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
That's what I'm doing when I had you flex your quads, flex your glutes, grab the ball, open those fingers wide, move with resistance.
I guarantee you your heart rate, if you started at 80, 80. It went to 105, 115, 120. I can take my heart rate from 90 to 140, well, 135, like that.
And I mean two minutes, standing still.
And that's not yoga.
That's DDPY. And I've been wearing a heart monitor doing this for over 18 years.
joe rogan
So it's more physically intensive?
It can be.
diamond dallas page
It can be.
Like I said, I did 10 10-second push-ups on my 6-second birthday.
joe rogan
But you still haven't gotten an MRI done since the injury?
Not since I've done it.
Figure, fuck it.
Feels great.
diamond dallas page
Why am I going to pay for that?
joe rogan
I just would like to see what it is.
Because I know that it is possible to gain some space.
diamond dallas page
Oh, I believe it.
It has to be there.
joe rogan
Well, they've done it with decompression.
They've done it with various exercises and things that people do that do lengthen the spine and stretch you out.
I have a bunch of things out back.
I'll show you some of the things that people have created to decompress the spine.
Do you ever use one of those teeter things where you hang on your ankles?
diamond dallas page
I have one, yes.
joe rogan
Those help a lot.
diamond dallas page
I literally get out of my hyperbaric chamber.
Let's talk about that for a minute.
What do you know about this?
joe rogan
I've never done it, but I've heard amazing things from UFC guys that have fought and had pretty significant injuries, hand breaks, muscle damage, and had some pretty rapid recovery because of it.
diamond dallas page
My doctor, who she's my endocrinologist, when I told her I was doing it, she goes, I can tell you, I know it can only help you.
She goes, the only story I have about it, because I don't know enough about it, she said, I had a woman who had radiation therapy, so she had an open wound from her breast cancer, and it wouldn't close for over two years.
Send her down to Emory finally, put her in a hyperbaric chamber.
Three months later, 100% healed.
Same things happens with people with diabetes.
So I had heard like LeBron had it, you know, because I never saw an article on it, but I just heard some people talking about it, you know, in different areas, that he had one, Kobe had one.
joe rogan
They have them in their house?
diamond dallas page
That's what I heard.
I don't know if they do or they don't.
I just heard it.
So it got me thinking, and my house that I was just, I just left, it's called the accountability crib.
And I'm about to put this out there everywhere.
It's when I moved Jake into my home in Atlanta.
I just bought it.
And it was all about being accountability.
One of my friends, Christina Ann, sent me a list of names.
I want to call this something.
I put it out on the internet and she sent me like 22 names.
And one of them was the accountability crib.
So that's what I call it.
DDP's accountability crib.
And you got to be accountable for everything.
And the thing, I loved that home, but it was 22 steps, you know, to get to my bedroom, and my knees are bone on bone.
So going down was a drag, so I figured, fuck it, I'm going to buy a new home, master on Main, and I'm going to build this, you know, I have this place that I can bring in top-end athletes that want to be healed.
You know, so going back to the crib, I'm making that like an Airbnb now, and I'll have like the Jake the Snake Roberts suite, the Rachel Ramone suite, the DDP suite.
You know, so that'll be pretty cool.
That's going to happen next week.
joe rogan
This is LeBron getting into his hyperbaric chamber.
diamond dallas page
Oh, okay, great.
joe rogan
Why doesn't LeBron shave his head?
What's going on with that?
Someone explain that.
There's so much fuckery going on with his hair.
diamond dallas page
Wow.
Okay, that looks a lot...
But mine, I would venture to say that he is not at 12 psi on that thing.
And what that means is pounds per square inch.
If you're like 10 to say 10 feet below sea level, that's about 4 pounds per square inch.
You know, it just goes up.
20 would be like 8 pounds per square inch.
At 12 pounds per square inch, The pressure is there and it takes like 10 minutes to get up there, like you're blowing your nose, like just get in the air, fix your ears and all that shit.
But what happens when you get to 12 psi, now it breaks the brain barrier and the oxygen will go to your brain.
So this is, I didn't know any of this shit till I sit next to a guy named Brad Campbell, who's like an angel, this cat.
And we just start talking on a plane.
And at some point I said, man, how old are you anyway?
It sounds like you do a lot of shit.
And he says, I'm thinking he looks at the max 45, maybe 40. He goes, I'm 57. I go, you're 57. I said, how the fuck do you look like that?
He said, I've been living in a hyperbaric chamber for the last 14 years.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a weirdo.
Keep that guy away from me.
diamond dallas page
Wait a minute.
unidentified
All right.
diamond dallas page
I said, how did that happen?
He said, I was diagnosed with MS 22 years ago.
joe rogan
Oh, wow!
So he's using that to keep the MS in check?
diamond dallas page
He told me that when he gets a 12 PSI and it goes to your brain, and this would be layman's terms, okay?
Right.
Like when you get MS, it kind of like crystallizes on your brain, right?
And when the crystals fill up, where do they go next?
Down your spine.
Hence the cane, the walker, the chair.
So, what somebody, I don't know who the person was, who figured out 20 days in a chamber, and it's all about consistency.
You do it once or twice, you're going to feel better a little bit.
But when you do it like consistent, like 20 days, like they do there, take off five days, you do that four times.
You do your MRI on your brain before you start and after there's a kid named Daniel Bryan who is one of the biggest stars in professional wrestling and a couple years ago he had to retire at the height of his career and he was the hottest guy on the planet at the time and he wasn't a big guy but he was the number one guy in the business.
And he had to retire because of concussions.
Well, he's back.
And I haven't talked to him directly about this, but I did hear that he was using a hyperic chamber to help heal his brain.
Now, again, while he's telling me this story, I'm not thinking about MS, but I'm thinking, I've been hitting the head a lot.
You know, I've been knocked out a shitload of times.
I knocked out a shitload of guys by accident, but you know, they weren't trying to knock me out either, but it's not checkers out there.
So I've been hitting the head with chairs and all that shit.
joe rogan
How do you guys do that?
How do you hit someone?
Are you supposed to go with it?
How does that work?
diamond dallas page
Here's the deal.
If I walk up to you And we're about to go out there, and I'm going to slap the shit out.
Don't do it anymore.
But in the old days, if I'm going to hit you in a chair, you've got to hit it even, right?
joe rogan
Right.
diamond dallas page
I'd say, hey, dude, I'm going to say I'm sorry right now.
And you would say back to me, well, come with it, motherfucker.
Don't make it look weak.
I mean, that's what you would say.
Because if we're going to shoot an angle on it, let's go with it.
joe rogan
But don't you think that back when you were 35, they didn't understand traumatic brain injury?
diamond dallas page
They did not.
That's why they let us do it.
You don't see that anymore.
But do you remember when Dennis Rodman wrestled?
joe rogan
Yes.
diamond dallas page
Well, that was when I got Karl Malone involved.
And it was me and Karl Malone against Rodman and Hogan.
It was fucking huge.
I took my name to a different level.
But Rodman was supposed to be a practice that day in Detroit.
We were in Detroit that night with Nitro.
And him and Hogan, I'm about to do this announcement.
And him and Hogan come from the back and whack me with chairs.
Now, this is Dennis Rodman.
Now, he's not one of the boys.
He doesn't know you've got to lay it flat.
And there was some big, probably like a mat from a wrestling mat that collegiate wrestlers wrestle on.
So this big roll of rubber was there.
It was probably about three feet off the ground.
And I said, I know you've never swung a chair before, so let me show you something.
And I'd pick my hands up with a chair, and then I'd lower them down, just right on top of it.
Then I'd pick them up, and I'd lower them flat.
I said, you see how flat it is, right?
And I took it up, and I hit it as hard as I could.
Boom.
I said, if you hit me like that, we're good.
And then I just turned with my left hand, moved down a little more, so now the railing of the chair hit it, and it put a big dent in it.
I said, if you hit me like that, You break my ribs.
I said, so please, let me see you do it.
Hit it flat.
And he was great.
You know, and they came out and it was on ESPN that night because he was supposed to be in practice.
And here he is fucking around with us on shooting the angle on Nitro.
So it was pretty cool.
But it's all about laying it flat.
And then you see how it's not checkers.
joe rogan
It's not fucking checkers.
One of the most disturbing things I ever saw was Brock Lesnar doing that flip off the top rope and landing on his head.
There's not a lot of human beings that would even survive that.
And then he goes on to complete the pin.
How the fuck did he not get knocked unconscious from that?
And how the fuck did he not have permanent spinal injury from that?
And he is 300 pounds at the time.
diamond dallas page
I tell everybody, you know, think what you fucking want about professional wrestling.
You can't fake gravity.
You can't fake that.
And that motherfucker was flipping in the air.
I mean, he's the baddest motherfucker alive as far as I'm concerned.
joe rogan
You can survive that.
300 pounds flying through the air, landing on the top of his neck.
diamond dallas page
And you watched it.
joe rogan
Watch this here.
Watch this shit.
diamond dallas page
Here it is.
joe rogan
Look at the size of this motherfucker.
diamond dallas page
Look how far he is.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
That is so fucked up.
That is so fucked up.
Look at him, grabbing his head.
I mean, he landed on his fucking head.
How is he alive?
diamond dallas page
I don't know.
joe rogan
He missed that so bad.
diamond dallas page
He's a cyborg.
I mean, he's one of the best fuckers.
joe rogan
He literally landed on his head.
And this was before.
And look at this.
diamond dallas page
And the other baddest motherfucker is right there next to him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kurt Angle, who's also completely fucked up from wrestling.
I mean, his arms, both of his arms are completely atrophied because he's had so many spinal surgeries and spinal injuries.
His neck has completely fused up.
diamond dallas page
I mean, I begged him to do it with me.
joe rogan
An Olympic gold medalist.
A legit Olympic gold medalist in wrestling.
diamond dallas page
Broke his neck.
joe rogan
Yes.
diamond dallas page
Before.
joe rogan
And still won.
diamond dallas page
And still won.
Again, one of the baddest motherfuckers left.
joe rogan
But again, this job, which is, you know, I mean, it's obviously, it's work.
It's work.
It's entertainment.
But physically demanding, in terms of physically demanding, it might be more physically demanding than any sport.
diamond dallas page
It's right up there.
The only thing I can think that might be as bad, but they don't do it every day, is bull riding.
That's the only thing.
joe rogan
I don't even know if that's a sport.
That's just crazy people.
diamond dallas page
It's pretty nutty.
joe rogan
I had a friend of mine who has done it and he had eight or nine shoulder surgeries.
His shoulder was just shredded.
It was just all these cut marks all over his shoulders.
It just blown apart and they stitched it back together and blew it apart and stitched it back together again.
How about stop riding fucking 2,000 pound animals, bro?
diamond dallas page
I don't want to fuck with one of those things, man.
They're just so crazy coming out of the gate.
You can't control that at all.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, you can't control that at all.
diamond dallas page
So the guys who had those runs, they're pretty banged up.
And the other guys, I've just started, you know, I'm talking to Bart Oates, who is the president of the NFL Alumni.
And we've been talking about doing something for the guys.
And again, when I do shit like that, I just give it to them just to help them.
And I've talked to a few of the players.
I got a few guys, you know, loving it.
And so it's just, again, helping them with, because there's, you know, those guys are all weightlifting, running.
We can't do either now because you're so beat up.
So, you know, it was funny when we watched it, I know I'm sure you watched the Super Bowl when they had the 50th anniversary a couple years back, and all the MVPs that came out there, just, it was brutal to watch how beat up they are.
The only guy, of course, Jerry Rice looks like he could still play, you know, because that sort of a bitch is the greatest, he's just a freaking super athlete, and somehow, I don't know with all the crazy shots he's been hit with that he has survived, but there's certain people, I always say they could eat plastic.
Like, they can do anything.
And, you know, you said Herschel Walker before that.
unidentified
Perfect example.
diamond dallas page
Perfect example.
joe rogan
Still wants to fight.
You know, he was fighting in Strikeforce when he was 48 years old.
unidentified
I watched it, yeah.
joe rogan
And he was built like a fucking 20-year-old freak of nature, fully shredded, and then...
You know, I mean, you really have to stop and think, if that guy did fight when he was in his 20s instead of in his 40s, late 40s, he could have been a world champion, and I'm not bullshitting.
He's that kind of a freak athlete.
diamond dallas page
One of my claims of fame was His last big run for Dallas.
He caught like the ball and ran 67 yards into the end zone.
This is like 1997. And he put the ball between his hands.
Did the diamond cutter side and did the bang.
But you didn't know because he put the ball in there.
If it was that or he was doing something else.
And one of my friends who had a show, a radio show, Craig, he had it in...
Arizona, he called me up.
He goes, D, I'm having Walker on the show today.
He goes, do you want to sit in the wings?
I'll ask him if he did the diamond cutter or not.
And I just go, dude, I definitely want to hear that.
So he put me on the phone in the wings and I'm waiting there.
And he said, so what happened that day?
What was that thing you did with the ball?
He goes, well, you know, I'm a big WCW fan, and I really like Diamond Dallas Page, and I felt the bang, and I just did it and did the bang and everything.
And he goes, well, he's on the air right now with you.
He's like, get out of here!
And we became buddies out of it.
I lost touch with him since then, buddy.
Great guy.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
What I think you're doing, and what I think one of the best benefits of yoga, and I'm sure the same with DDPY, is that you're connecting everything together, whereas yoga and sprinting and all these explosive exercises, it's building up to muscles, but what you're doing is you're tightening up all the joints.
You're tightening up the core and the joints.
And this is the thing that people are missing, that a lot of people are missing that are really into fitness and exercise.
They're doing all this explosive stuff, but what's connecting everything together is what blows out.
The knees, the ankles, the shoulders, the back.
And this is something that's missing from a lot of people's workouts because it's not as glamorous.
It's not like you do biceps, your thighs get all pumped up, you do chest, you get all pumped up, you look great.
It's a different thing.
What you're doing is for overall body maintenance and health and just connecting all these parts together in a way that makes the whole unit stronger and healthier.
diamond dallas page
Right.
And again, that's what I was saying.
I'm stretching and strengthening.
Just think about going over your head and reaching up.
When I started class, I just had 175 people pay to be a part of a workshop that I do called Inspiration Meets Perspiration.
And I guarantee them two things.
I'm so jacked up.
I'm so inspired.
They're going to feel like they could run through the brick wall.
And two, they're going to sweat their ass off.
But I let them meet it where they are on whatever level.
So the person who might be 400 pounds and the person who's shredded over there can get a good workout at the same time.
Because I'm showing him how to do that modification over there and he might even have a chair.
And this guy, I'm going, go deep.
No, no.
Go deep.
Now let me show you this.
Now grab the ball, open it up, and then pull.
But before I start one of those things, because there's people there who come because they hear it's yoga, right?
unidentified
Right.
diamond dallas page
And I walk, you know, I've got my mic on, and I go, I'm walking.
I go, if you came here for the yoga, will you reach your arms to the heavens so the universe smiles back at you?
And I drop my arms.
I go, we won't be doing any of that shit today.
joe rogan
What kind of yoga did you start with?
diamond dallas page
Power yoga.
Just power yoga.
joe rogan
So you never did like Bikrams or...
diamond dallas page
No, I've done everything.
joe rogan
Kundalini.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, I've done all of them at least once.
I respect yoga at a different level.
What's really funny is guys like Brian Kess and Shiva Ray.
There was a buddy of mine, Arthur Klein, did a movie called Why Yoga?
And in it, he gives me a camera.
And it was the second time I went to Iraq.
And I filmed all this shit.
And me with the guys.
And then, you know, interviewing.
I was interviewing.
Someone else was interviewing him for me.
And it got this great, you know, great stuff.
But in the beginning, I'm talking about how, like, I literally was interviewed when I wrote the book Yoga for Regular Guys.
And it was smoking hot chicks and regular guys.
Because back then, I meant T&A when I said it.
unidentified
Right.
diamond dallas page
And I never thought women would love the workout the way they do.
joe rogan
And what was this year that you put this together?
diamond dallas page
2005. So I was interviewed by this guy from the Wall Street Journal and literally he quoted me saying when Kimberly had asked me if I would do the yoga.
I was like, fuck that.
I wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga.
And he put in there, F dash dash dash that, I wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga.
So that's in the beginning of the movie, right?
So the yogis like, hate me!
But by the time it gets to the end, where they see like, I'm just putting a different spin on it.
And I'm not trying to do what you're doing, but similar, getting, as far as I'm concerned, more benefits.
joe rogan
Now when you say power yoga, for people who've never done yoga before, differentiate.
What does that mean when you say power yoga versus something like Bikram yoga?
diamond dallas page
Bikram is, to me, first of all, I don't want to be that hot.
I don't want to be in a hot room.
I want to heat my body up in the cold.
So I don't want to put myself in a position where it's so hot that I can go farther than I've ever come before, because then I'm going to walk out into the real world.
And then I'm not going to get that.
I want to be able to get what I get in the real world.
And there's like, I want to say, I don't know how many positions there are.
Let's say there's 46 positions or whatever it is in Pekram.
I think it's 28. No, whatever.
I thought it was 27 or 28. I can't remember.
unidentified
I don't remember either.
diamond dallas page
But either way, he trademarked that.
unidentified
Yeah, he lost that in court, though.
diamond dallas page
I thought he won.
joe rogan
I think he lost, and on top of that, I don't think it was his to begin with.
I think somebody else had put all those patterns together before him.
diamond dallas page
Probably so, because again, it's It's friggin' yoga.
joe rogan
It's been around for thousands of years.
diamond dallas page
But for me, what I do, like, one time Chris Jericho and I were, he came by my house in L.A. when I was living here, and we went out to the park, and he's like, so what do you do?
Do you stand up one day, you know, strength build it or next?
I go, Chris, I do it different every...
I do the same open and do the same close.
But all the middle, I go, it's like a match, man.
I'm making it up as I go along at times.
You know, and I'm improv-ing because I'm seeing what you can do.
And then I'm going to take it different.
If I see you can really go...
Well, I'm going to push you to a different level than I go to.
If you can't, then I'm going to back way the fuck off.
Because I don't want to burn you.
I want you to...
I did it with Tito.
Tito Ortiz, one time, he'd written something in Sports Illustrated, interviewed him.
And I had met him at a strip joint in Vegas.
And he was the man in UFC at the time.
They weren't making any money.
You remember back in the beginning when they weren't making any money.
And he wanted to go to where we were.
And I was like, dude, here's what I really feel.
This shit you're doing is building crazy momentum.
I go, we're at the top of where we're going to go right now, and it's so cyclical, at some point it's going to fall out.
I said, it's a whole different thing than what you're doing.
I know you appreciate it, which I'm super excited about, but bottom line is, man, stay where you are.
And he's saying this in the SI interview, right?
So I still had his number, and I called him up, and he answered the phone, like, hey, Dito.
Like, hey, DDP! I'm like, hey, man, I saw what you said, and you told the story exactly, because I talked him out of it, like trying to go, and told him, no, stay where you are, dude.
You're about to have a hell of a run.
And he put that over.
So I said, man, you remembered exactly the way it went.
And he said, yeah.
He goes, of course, that's what I'm going to tell.
joe rogan
He's fighting again.
diamond dallas page
I heard that.
joe rogan
He's fighting next month.
diamond dallas page
I went down and worked out with him.
joe rogan
Two months, November.
diamond dallas page
I worked out with him after he did his back surgery.
joe rogan
He's had a bunch of back surgeries.
diamond dallas page
Well, the first one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
diamond dallas page
The first one, I worked with him.
And I'm figuring, this is Tito Ortiz, man.
I'm going to freaking push him to show him how this will strengthen him.
Then after that, he wouldn't do it.
And I finally pinned him down.
I go, Tito, why didn't you do it again?
He goes, it was too fucking hard, bro.
I'm like, dude, you say that?
You're one of the baddest fucks alive.
How could you?
And he's like, you know, I just thought it was too...
I said, I can make it super easy.
And that's where I learned...
Back the fuck off, meaning me.
Bring it where they need it.
And let me show you how we can help.
Like, Cain Velasquez, he was just down in the Performance Center, down in WWE, and I'm training the guys down there.
And I go down for like a week at a time.
joe rogan
I heard he's thinking about going into pro wrestling after his career's over.
diamond dallas page
Well, I'll tell you what, man.
joe rogan
Because he's another guy who's had a shitload of back surgeries.
Shoulder surgeries, knee surgeries.
diamond dallas page
And he, you know, could draw huge money.
I mean, he really could.
He's such a natural, as you can imagine.
joe rogan
And he's a giant Mexican.
How many of those are there?
diamond dallas page
Yeah, right.
That doesn't really exist like that.
joe rogan
First ever Mexican heavyweight champion in combat sports.
diamond dallas page
I watched it, man.
joe rogan
He's one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest.
His body couldn't keep up with his mind.
His mind was so physically tough.
I mean, his mind was so mentally tough that his physical body would start falling apart.
His knees, his back, his shoulders.
It's just, when you watch that guy train, I mean, he trains like nobody.
Him and Daniel Cormier would just go to a fucking war.
diamond dallas page
I'm so happy for DC. He's awesome.
joe rogan
He's on Thursday.
diamond dallas page
Oh, he is?
We've never met, but I know he loves what we do.
joe rogan
He and I are calling the fights in Dallas this weekend.
diamond dallas page
Oh, great.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's UFC welterweight championships in Dallas this weekend.
diamond dallas page
Awesome, awesome.
I forgot what I was going to say before you said Cormier.
joe rogan
Tito Ortiz, it was too difficult for him.
You know, that's when you learn to back the fuck off.
And that Cain Velasquez...
diamond dallas page
Okay, Cain.
Man, wow, you're good.
You should do this.
You should have a show.
joe rogan
It's crazy to tell you how much pot I smoke.
diamond dallas page
So when I was down there, I did six workouts in five days.
Six workouts.
Two double sessions and a single session every day.
Kane made four of them.
And then, you know, we changed numbers and I sent him my program.
I sent him Matt's heart monitor and I don't know if he's doing it.
I haven't checked back in with him.
joe rogan
It would help him tremendously.
Tremendously.
Really would.
You know, because that guy's whole issue has been really his back.
I mean, there's other injuries, the shoulders and the knees and stuff like that, but they can fix those better than they can fix your back.
The back is, once they lose those discs, you know.
diamond dallas page
And I told him, like I told you, I said, if you can get out to Atlanta, I'll personally work with you.
It costs you this.
I just want you to have the results because, like Arthur, the results will speak for themselves.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I mean, I'm a believer, 100%.
And I just can't say enough how impressed I am with that video with Arthur.
That is one of the most impressive transformation videos I think I've ever seen online.
And that's saying a lot.
diamond dallas page
What I found on the internet, there's few things that they really share.
Like when Steve first did that video, I looked at it and went, man, you don't have, back then it was still, we were just branding it DDP Yoga.
You don't have ddpyoga.com on it though.
No, bro.
He goes, I read a book.
And in the book, remember, this is 2011. And he said, I read a book that talked about if you want something to go viral, it can't be an advertising ad.
It has to be, unless it's super funny, then that's different.
He said, but if you want to, there's two things we can do here.
We can make it an ad.
We can inspire people.
He goes, what do you want to do?
I said, let's inspire people.
So then I watched it again, right?
And then I'm watching it, and I go, fuck, I'm a yogi in there.
So I called him up, and I go, bro.
I go, I don't want to be...
I mean, I love yoga, but I want to go for the people...
joe rogan
You're doing your own thing.
unidentified
Right.
diamond dallas page
And he goes, all right, I just want you to think about this.
And this is why Steve...
Steve is like an Ivy Leaguer, graduated from Cornell, like super smart, was literally on his way to being a top guy at IBM and thought, fuck that.
I don't want to do that.
I want to inspire people.
So he is the only guy that I know is self-taught 100% how to edit, how to produce, how to do everything.
And Resurrection Jake the Snake, when you see it, you'll know.
That's his baby.
That video is his baby.
So he said, just imagine this, all right?
Yoga is going to want to take credit for all of this.
Even though it's our shit and it's different, it's still a version of.
He said, that'll end up on every yoga studio wall.
Ever.
And that's what helped it go viral.
So, remember he said in the video that he'd been turned away?
joe rogan
Right.
diamond dallas page
Because he needed the chair.
They didn't have any such thing.
They don't know how to incorporate that into their flow.
unidentified
Right.
diamond dallas page
I do.
joe rogan
So you figured out the chair as a balancing tool.
diamond dallas page
And we have some where people are just sitting down and we have like beginner, beginner, but by the time you come into my class, like when I'll do, I'll go do a class and I'll be back to let everybody know Tuesday of next week I will be doing a class at DDP Yoga Performance Center.
It'll be jammed.
You won't be able to fit enough people in there.
But there'll be people with chairs and there'll be people without them and the energy will be insane because I've got you counting and you'll see like, grab the ball.
Now grab a hold and work your back and bys here and pull.
Deep breath.
Three, two, one.
I'm engaging everything.
Now, negative rep.
So you're engaging again.
Again, I want to get your heart rate up there and keep it there.
joe rogan
What did you do before you were pro wrestling, when you were 35?
diamond dallas page
I was running nightclubs.
I was running nightclubs.
I was in a nightclub business since I was 17. They actually had me bounce.
They didn't know how old.
They didn't know I wasn't old enough, because I was 6'4 and like 180 pounds.
But I was tall, and I started bouncing when I was 18. Once I found out I was 17, I'd get the hell out of here.
You're not old enough.
But I came back when I was 18, and then I was barbacking and bartending.
I was running.
I ran a small rock and roll joint at 22 and a half years old.
And then I went to Houston.
I lived down there for a while, and the honky-tonk scene was insane.
Then I came back for a wedding, and there was a place in Asbury Park, New Jersey, which is where I'm from, the Jersey Shore.
It's really funny.
I always tell people this.
From the same Jersey Shore area, me and Bam Bam Bigelow, who's a future Hall of Famer, you know, to me, she'll already be in.
Danny DeVito, Jack Nicholson, Jon Bon Jovi, and Bruce Brinkstein.
All from that, like, Save Jersey Shore area.
But I came back for a wedding, and there was this club opening up.
And so I went in there, and I talked to the guy, and he goes, well, I need a head bartender.
I said, I won't be a head bartender, but I'll be a general manager.
And I'll get behind a stick two days a week.
But this place was huge.
joe rogan
Get behind the stick?
diamond dallas page
The bar.
Get behind the bar and bartend.
Going slower nights, you know?
joe rogan
Get behind the stick.
diamond dallas page
Get behind the stick.
joe rogan
I get it.
The beer stick.
diamond dallas page
Right.
Well, yeah.
Our place was huge.
It was a big...
We had rock and roll and disco.
First time Bruce Springsteen ever sang Dancing in the Dark was caught up with a band called Bystander and sang with them.
Because, you know, Bruce is down two blocks, one block away was the Stone Pony, where I watched him probably 18 Sundays in a row play with a band called Cats on a Smooth Surface.
You just jump up and start playing, you know?
joe rogan
And now how did you go to pro wrestling?
diamond dallas page
So I was running a club.
I tried it when I was 22. That was right before I started to actually, you know, get a chance at running a club.
I had three matches.
I sucked.
I torqued my knee.
And when I was 12 years old, I mean, I was like, I loved football and hockey.
Like, in my mind, I'm going to play defensive end for the New York Giants.
I mean, that's my mind at the time.
But then I walked back, got hit by a car, my face bounced off the hood, and I flew 42 feet from the point of impact.
joe rogan
Jeez.
diamond dallas page
No such thing as rehab in 1968. So they wouldn't let me play football or hockey, but here's the two sports you can play.
joe rogan
They just decided you were broken.
diamond dallas page
They're like, you can't get a doctor to sign for you, and they weren't going to sign for me.
So they gave me two choices.
Baseball and basketball.
I suck at both.
And baseball, you've got to have somebody.
Basketball, you don't.
And I didn't even make the team in seventh grade, and I didn't give a fuck because I didn't really like it.
joe rogan
When you say you've got to have somebody, what do you mean?
diamond dallas page
You have to have someone to throw the ball back and forth with.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
diamond dallas page
You got to have nine guys, you know, at least seven, you know, they play with another seven or whatever.
Nine is what you want, of course, but whatever you can do to make it work.
For basketball, you just need one.
You need a ball and a hoop.
That's it.
In eighth grade, I sat on the bench, and I had never sat on the bench ever.
So I thought, that's never happened to me again.
And it taught me the greatest lesson.
It taught me, that summer, I played every day, all day long.
Five hours a day minimum.
You know, when you're by yourself.
Layups, hooks, foul shots, whatever.
And then the games pick up.
In the beginning, I didn't get picked up until the end, maybe.
And then as time went on, over that summer, it kept getting better and better and better and better.
My freshman year, I started, and we went undefeated.
My sophomore year, I was playing varsity.
So I realized that work ethic equals results.
So that was the huge lesson I learned from that.
So now I'm 23 years old, and I hurt my knee, and I'm going to take some time off away from the dream of being a wrestler, and I get caught in the booze, the prods, and the party.
Wow.
unidentified
Booze, broads, and the party.
diamond dallas page
Destroyer of men.
And I was lucky that I had a way of parenting myself, like getting into that whole party scene, which I did, but slowly I kind of backed myself out a little bit each year.
And I've got this club in Fort Myers, Florida at the time, and this one I actually own a little piece of it with my buddy Tony Cafaro and a couple other guys.
One night I'm in the office and we had a camera at the back door and a camera at the front door.
This place would hold, legally, probably about 600 people.
We got a thousand in there.
And I'm looking at the camera as the person walks and looks just like Jake the Snake Roberts.
I'm a huge fan of Jake Roberts.
So I friggin' run outside the building, come around, because I don't want to walk through the people.
And I go to this girl, Judy, at the front door.
I go, did a guy just walk in here who looks like Jake Roberts?
She goes, yeah.
She goes, I think it's him.
So I practically go right again there, like a huge mark.
And when I see him, I slow down.
joe rogan
You don't want to overfan, boy.
diamond dallas page
Don't want to overfan, boy.
joe rogan
Take a breath.
diamond dallas page
So he's up at the bar and I'm like, hey, you're Dick Snake Roberts.
Who wants to know?
I said, the guy who runs this place?
He goes, yeah.
I go, what are we drinking?
And that's how we started.
So it's really crazy that in Resurrection, I help him not drink again.
joe rogan
That is amazing.
diamond dallas page
I mean, that happened.
And then, of course, I paid for all his drinks.
And next day, you know, Ted DiBiase's there.
Bushwhackers are there.
All the guys from the 80s, if you wrestled in Tampa, then you had to go to Miami.
Well, Fort Myers was the perfect location.
So they had seen all these different people, these boys coming through there, right?
So I did all my own radio commercials back then.
So back then I might be like, Thursday, Thursday, hot legs.
And then I might throw in, oh yeah, dig it, don't miss, hot legs, yeah.
Thinking, thinking, thinking.
And people didn't know if it was Randy or Hulk or Jesse or whoever.
And I never told anybody, right?
So they do this interview on The Voice.
Because this is Fort Myers.
It's called the Party News Network.
My buddy Kevin said, we're going to do a spot on you on the news network.
I'm like, okay.
So they filmed me in my 62 pink Cadillac.
They filmed me at the studio.
joe rogan
You had a 62 pink Cadillac?
diamond dallas page
Convertible.
Ooh, baby.
It was the first divorced wife I never had.
joe rogan
Oh, what a car.
diamond dallas page
I just saw one go by.
I eventually sold it.
I drove it all the time.
I loved it.
joe rogan
That's one you're supposed to keep.
diamond dallas page
I know.
joe rogan
I'm getting one.
62 pink convertible?
diamond dallas page
It was badass, man.
joe rogan
There's another Bruce Springsteen song.
What a fucking great song that was.
diamond dallas page
Oh, man.
The best.
We actually, at that club, gave away, it was like a 68 pink Cadillac convertible.
joe rogan
You got a picture of a 62 pink Cadillac convertible on Google.
It's probably a picture of his.
diamond dallas page
There's a picture of me with three hot, smoking hot diamond dolls in my Harley and fucking...
It's got to be somewhere on there.
There it is.
joe rogan
There it is.
Look at that fucking car.
Is there any other pictures where you can see the front of it?
diamond dallas page
There it is.
joe rogan
Oh, what a car.
unidentified
No, that's not it, but that's a 61. That's a hard top.
joe rogan
It's got to have the wings on the bottom.
Go to that last one that you just went to.
Oof, look at that one.
What is that last convertible one you went to?
One before that.
diamond dallas page
Oh, that's like a 56. That's a 61, I think.
That's a 59. That's my favorite.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's a 70, right?
Yeah, 70. That's badass.
Look at the fucking...
A car!
God damn, they made some cars!
diamond dallas page
Go back to that shot of me and whatchamacallit there.
It's so funny because back then, there is...
unidentified
How old are you here?
diamond dallas page
Right there, I am 31 years old.
That is, if you guys want to read a really great, super detailed, insanely long, it's called A Letter to My Younger Self.
It's The Player's Tribune.
So when we're writing this, Joe...
It's so fucking long.
I'm like, well, let me cut back on some of it.
They're like, no, no, we need more detail.
And then it goes to 9,000 words.
And then they want more detail.
Look at you, dude!
Look at that hair!
joe rogan
That's a 1980s head of hair if I ever saw one.
Holy shit.
Look at the cops looking at you from behind.
What the fuck is this guy doing?
diamond dallas page
I'm a manager then.
So, let me give you the backstory into this.
So, back up, back up.
That's the money picture, right there.
joe rogan
Little cutie face.
How old were you there, like eight, nine?
diamond dallas page
Oh, I don't know.
Fucking, he was trouble.
That son of a bitch was major trouble.
So, let me go back to where, friggin'.
So, I do this radio spot.
And when they're doing it, this TV, when I do the radio spot, they're filming me in my car, and ready to do a radio spot, I'm wearing a Wrestlemania t-shirt.
And I know because I have this footage still.
And I put it up on my Motivational Mondays for my very first one.
A power of what's possible.
And then they film me at my office, right?
Now let me just digress.
The week before, I'm going around at night and I'm grabbing the drawers, you know, like the money drawers.
And I'm watching video that's up on Girls Just Wanna Have Fun.
Remember that?
With Cyndi Lauper?
unidentified
Sure.
diamond dallas page
And it had Captain Lou Albano on it, who's like one of my favorite managers ever.
Super character, did a bunch of movies.
Lou was just super friggin' fun to watch.
He's in that video.
And I'm picking up the drawers, and I'm not talking to anybody but myself.
And I say, there he is.
unidentified
There he is.
joe rogan
Captain Lou with the rubber bands and the beard.
unidentified
I remember that.
diamond dallas page
Oh, God.
So I look up at that video and I go, Rockin' Wrestling.
I should have been a part of that.
And I walk into my office.
Now, other bartenders are going to come and count their drawers right now.
And Smokey comes in, my head bartender, and he comes and goes, Paige J. Because my real first name is Paige Joseph Falkenberg.
And my dad...
Yeah, right.
That name's never going to draw any money in professional wrestling.
joe rogan
Yeah, that Paige Falkenberg is going to tough sell.
diamond dallas page
Exactly.
joe rogan
Diamond Dallas Page, that makes sense.
diamond dallas page
They work, right?
But my dad's page one, and he said, I'm freaking, you know, you're page two.
And I'm like, no.
As a little kid, he said I didn't like that.
So Dallas Cowboys was my team that I loved the most when I was a little kid.
I don't know because of the stars or whatever and Landry and all that shit.
He ends up nicknamed me Dallas.
So I always love that name.
So I just put them together.
It's kind of created it, right?
So I tried that as handsome.
So bottom line is Smokey comes in the back and he goes, Paige J. He goes, uh...
What do you mean rock and wrestling?
You should have been a part of that.
I said, well, you know, I tried it when I was a kid.
He goes, you did?
What was your name?
I said, Handsome Dallas Page.
He went, oh, you forget about using that gimmick anymore, and everybody laughed, you know?
Now we're drinking.
It's after hours, right?
So I can't get it out of my head, Joe.
And I just start scribbling.
And I write Diamond Dallas Page.
And I said, you know...
joe rogan
Where'd you get the diamond?
diamond dallas page
I just figured my birthday.
April.
And it just kind of flowed.
joe rogan
April is a diamond month?
diamond dallas page
April is a diamond month.
Yeah, April 5th is a diamond.
And I love Classy Freddie Blassie.
And I love the way that name flowed.
Classy Freddie Blassie.
I thought, Diamond Dallas Page.
It kind of flows.
And I go, what about if my name was...
I'm too old to be a wrestler.
Now, remember, I was 22 or 23, 22. And now I'm 31. So you're thinking you were going to be a manager or something?
I'm going to be a manager.
Jimmy Hart's a manager.
I could be Diamond Dallas Page.
Jimmy Hart, you know, has got the Hart Foundation.
I could have the Diamond Exchange.
Whoa!
Drink, drink, shot, shot.
So now we're getting pretty fucked up, man.
And at some point, I say, you know...
You know, there's not a lot of really good-looking women in wrestling today.
I go, Miss Elizabeth's beautiful, but she's girl next door beautiful.
What if I had a whole stable of ladies and I called them diamond dolls and they were stripper hot?
Everyone's like, oh, that'll be a stretch.
Whoa!
Shot, shot, drink, drink.
So the end of the night comes around.
And I'm like, Diamond Dolls Page, the Diamond Exchange, the Diamond Dolls.
I go, man, that's fucking B-A-double-D bad.
And I went, did I just make that up or did I steal that from somebody?
And I just wrote it down.
A week later, here I am with the Party News Network, and they're interviewing me.
And at some point they say, so where does the voice come from?
Now Joe, if there's not a pair of white sunglasses there at the time, I don't know if I'd do it.
But they're sitting right there next to that shit.
So I grab them and I put them on.
joe rogan
Were they your sunglasses?
diamond dallas page
Yeah, they were my sunglasses.
If they weren't there, I don't know if I say it.
I don't know if I go into character.
But because I could put a mask on.
I go, the voice comes from Diamond Dollar.
joe rogan
Give me some volume.
Give me some volume on this.
diamond dallas page
When the Iceman puts you in a deep freeze, it's lights out.
Now, ladies, I wasn't talking to you.
I was talking to the ladies on TV. Now, ladies, you must be getting back to the limo.
Get back to the limo now, ladies.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
diamond dallas page
Get over here, daddy.
joe rogan
Get right out of the way.
diamond dallas page
Exactly!
Get a little hot in here.
Get with the program here.
Like I was saying, when the Iceman puts you in a deep freeze, it's lights out.
Pay attention, Mr. Bernstein.
unidentified
Well, let's bring out...
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is fucking classic.
You got a Motley Crue t-shirt on with no neck?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Look at this guy.
diamond dallas page
Rock Hard Rick.
And then Jack Bernstein has his own show in Jersey as a podcast on country music, but he was a big jock for a long time.
Great Pipes.
Oh, this is hilarious.
joe rogan
Wow, this is hilarious.
unidentified
John.
diamond dallas page
I catch the man, he's peeling down the walls of my mind with his bare hands.
He was looking for rough cut diamonds, don't you know?
unidentified
As a matter of fact, one time one of my diamond mines collapsed.
diamond dallas page
Collapsed?
Collapsed.
We had to bring in cranes.
We had to bring in trays.
We even brought in planes.
Because we were afraid at the bottom of that mine laid this big, big man.
Big John.
unidentified
Big John.
diamond dallas page
That's right, Jack.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is fucking classic.
What year is all this happening?
diamond dallas page
And that's the beginning of where it started.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - Look at this girl. - The diamond dollar satin This is an exchange here, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm talking about?
This man is loved by women all over the world.
They love to cuddle him.
He is the Teddy Bear.
If you wouldn't mind, take off that jacket there, Teddy Bear.
Show the fans what you got.
Show them what you got here.
Oh boy, Teddy V is going to be so excited to be here on Joe Rogan's show.
He is an unbelievable specimen, an unbelievable man here.
This ain't no normal midget wrestler.
This is the next king of the world.
You know what I'm talking about, Daddy.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
unidentified
That's an awesome wrestler there.
diamond dallas page
Diamond Dallas.
And those ladies, unbelievable!
They can't keep their hands off them.
unidentified
Holy shit!
diamond dallas page
Listen, listen, listen to what Teddy does.
Teddy Bear, do you have anything to add to this?
Just remember what that is.
Easy animals.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
What year is all this?
unidentified
This is 1987. Oh my god, I'm fresh out of high school.
joe rogan
That's two years out of high school for me.
diamond dallas page
So what happened was, I do this promo.
They're doing this show.
We just went ahead of it.
I'm doing the Bard News Network and they say, where does the voice come from?
I look down and I always say, just don't think it.
Ink it.
Write it down.
It's right in front of me.
This is your spot.
I grab those sunglasses.
I put them on.
And I go, the voice comes from Damandella's page, daddy.
I was born to be a professional wrestling manager.
It's big, it's bad, it's na-na-na-na, Norma Jean's voice.
I took him off and I kept talking.
A radio jock who was a great fighter.
His name is Smitty.
And Smitty sees this.
So this is like a week later, right?
I get a phone call from the girl in the front desk.
She says, Paige, there's someone to call for Diamond Dallas Paige?
I pick up the phone.
I go, fuck you, Smokey.
And I hang up the phone, right?
Because I think it's Smokey ripping me, right?
He calls back.
She goes, it's not Smokey.
His name's Smitty.
He's got a radio show.
He wants to talk to you.
I go, hello?
He's like, yeah, we want to bring you on the show.
He goes, you know, I'm a boxer who has his own show about boxing, but I want to start doing wrestling.
I go, he goes, I want to have you on the show.
I go, bro, I don't really do it.
I was just making that shit up, you know?
And he's like, who cares?
It's radio.
And I'm like, man, I don't know.
He goes, I'm gonna have Captain Lou Albano on.
Like, what's the odds of that?
I'm gonna have Captain Lou Albano on the show.
I want you to be my co-host.
I go, do I get to talk to Captain Lou?
He's like, absolutely.
I go, I'm in!
So I do that show and I do another one with Sergeant Slaughter.
And he says to me, he says, you know, you got to do something with this Diamond Dallas Page thing.
You're a natural.
I go, Smitty, do what?
I don't know what the fuck to do.
I mean, it's just something in my head.
And he says, I got this friend of mine named Rob Russon, who's a boxing promoter who now is working for the AWA up in Minnesota.
I'll give you his address.
Send him a tape or something.
So I think about it and I write those storylines for those guys.
And then I make that tape and I send it to the AWA. No bullshit, Joe.
Two weeks later, I get a phone call.
Hey, is this Diamond Dallas Page?
And I'm like, yeah, this is Rob Russom from the AWA. We've seen your tape.
We want to bring you and your boys in for a tryout.
He goes, but we've got one question.
You know, we've shown the tape around and everybody kind of likes your stick.
You know, it's fresh.
It's got energy.
He said, but no one's ever heard of you.
Where are you guys working?
Well, Rob, we got one problem.
None of those guys can wrestle.
He's like, what?
He goes, why would you send us a tape?
I go, it's like a secret society.
Like, no one can figure out how to fucking get in.
So, you know, while they're training, I could, you know, manage.
And I'm like, ah, don't call us, we'll call you.
And two weeks later, God just aligned this for me for some reason, just to be where I am today.
But Paul Heyman, who's one of the biggest stars as, you know, a character on WWE television, was called Paulie Dangerously at the time.
He left the AWA, went to the NWA, which was gonna get bought by Ted Turner, left a huge spot open for a young guy that could talk.
They brought me in.
All those clothes you saw me in, I was wearing that shit in Fort Myers, Florida.
And I said to my buddy, Kurt Church, who was my head bouncer at the time, my head of the floor, and when this was starting to happen, I go, dude, can you imagine if I ever have a reason to dress like this?
You know, like, And if anything, I got way more tapered down.
You know, I wasn't living the gimmick.
But, man, it was the beginning of everything.
And then Dusty Rhodes had come into Florida for Florida Championship Wrestling.
And Dusty took me under his wing, man.
And he gave me every break that ever meant anything to my career early on.
That's why it was so important for me.
To be there for Cody because I'm not getting choked up just thinking about it.
Without Dusty Rhodes, there is no Diamond Dolls page.
He gave me every break I ever had and for me to watch his son do what they did last weekend.
joe rogan
Do you remember your first match?
diamond dallas page
My first match was a tag match.
So I'm managing now, okay?
Three and a half years.
And then I finally get the call because Dusty, who went to WWE... And he did his polka dotted gimmick with him.
He came back to run the WCW. He's NWA world champion.
He's like one of the smartest guys ever in our business.
And I developed a relationship that was super tight with him when we were in Florida.
But it was his wife, Michelle.
Who really kept it going when he wasn't, because when I'd call up just to check in with Dusty once in a while, she'd say, don't worry, Dallas.
Dusty will call you back.
And knowing how bad he is at calling someone back, I know that, that's why I thank Michelle in my Hall of Fame speech, because I know without her, I don't know if it ever would have kept going the way it did, but Dusty, you know, he brought me in and I managed the Freebirds, Michael P.S. Hage and Jimmy Jam Garvin, which was such an education, such a good time.
Michael's still one of my best friends today.
And I helped Scott Hall, who was Big Scott Hall, come in, changed his entire look from blonde hair and a big roll with mustache I had him dye his hair jet black and give him this brush cut beard that like nobody had the five o'clock shadow and no one knew who the fuck he was and I brought him in and what is happening as you see all the crazy clothes I wore Well,
five months in, Magnum TA, who's Dusty's right-hand man, comes up to me and he's like, listen, D, we're going to keep you at the color commentators box.
I'm also doing color commentating with Eric Bischoff, who would later run the company.
And he said, we can't let you manage anymore.
I'm like, what?
What'd I do wrong?
He goes, it's not anything you're doing wrong, bro.
He goes, with the hair and the wrap and the dolls and those crazy clothes, he goes, you're taking too much attention away from the boys and they're the ones who draw the money.
And I was like, so fuck, are you telling me, Magnum, that I'm too over the fucking top for wrestling?
And he goes, as a manager, kinda.
He said, but, you know, what we should have done is put you in a pair of tights and boots and see if you could do this shit.
I had seven months left on my contract, bro.
I said, fuck this.
I never got in this business to be a manager.
I wanted to live the dream.
Well, I'm gonna do it.
And I went down there and they beat the fuck out of me.
joe rogan
Now, did they teach you how to do it first?
diamond dallas page
No, what they do is they blow you up.
This is how it was.
The NXT is different, like down their performance center.
But the original power plant, one of my other mentors was a guy named Jody Hamilton, who was the assassin, and he really taught me a lot.
And so did this guy Sarge.
But in the beginning, they want to run you off.
joe rogan
So they want to see if you'll quit.
diamond dallas page
Oh, absolutely.
It's a different level of SEAL training.
You're going to do 50 Hindu squats where you're asked to bucket and up again.
And then you're going to do 10 push-ups.
And then you're going to do 50. And then 10. And 50. And 10. And by the time you get to that third 50, if you're not in shape, you're screwed.
joe rogan
Because we're going to 500. Yeah, Hindu squats are a big thing amongst wrestlers, right?
diamond dallas page
It's a great way to get in shape, but it really wears on your knees.
joe rogan
But it's really good for your knees.
diamond dallas page
No, no, no.
unidentified
Hindu squats aren't?
diamond dallas page
Not if you've got bad knees.
If you've got great knees.
It's like anything.
There's only so many bumps you're allowed in life.
joe rogan
The Miz was on Fear Factor back in the day.
diamond dallas page
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
To this day, I say he's the fittest guy that was ever on the show.
That fucking kid is a He is a stud.
He did this stunt in cold water, where you had to dive into this cold water, hold your breath, and complete this stunt.
And he was in it for more than two minutes, holding his breath in cold water.
Now, if you know anything about cold water, that is unbelievably impressive.
Plus, very grueling physical activity.
It's not that he was just in cold water, holding his breath for two minutes, which is impressive enough as it is.
He was swimming around and pulling off.
He blew everybody out of the water.
And he told me he did a shitload of those.
He was doing 500 a day.
500 Hindu squats a day.
unidentified
A kid, though.
diamond dallas page
A kid.
And that's why he was in that kind of shape.
Let me give you a line.
joe rogan
Super nice guy, too.
diamond dallas page
Tremendous.
I love The Miz.
I think he's going to be a huge superstar.
He's already a huge superstar in wrestling, but I think he's going to be a huge superstar in the acting world, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, he could easily transcend.
diamond dallas page
So let me tell you the first time I meet him.
I'm here in LA. I'm living in Playa Vista before that.
All that shit blew up there, right?
I'm living there.
I want to say it's 2004 because I wrestled until I was 46. Then I took off two and a half years, came here, did the whole acting thing and put my dues and put the work in.
Now I want to go back and I want to show people what I can do with my DDPY program at 49. So I call up a buddy of mine named Rick Bassman, and he's got the UPW at the time, and he's got the own area, kind of like the power plant was, and the kids are training there whenever.
I said, do me a favor, send me over one of your boys and let him come by and get me, and I'll do what I want to do, and then I'll help work with him a little bit.
And so he sends me Mike the Miz.
And just the sweetest kid.
And we have a great talk on the way over there.
And I get done doing all my shit.
And then I say, okay, what do you want to learn?
He's like, you're going to work with me?
I'm like, hell yeah, I'm going to work with you.
You've got a great attitude, dude.
Of course I'm going to work with you.
And we worked.
And now he's taking me home.
And he tells me about how he was a real world.
He's like the original real world guy.
So I said, man, you've got that piece.
People already know you.
That's really worth something.
It'll really come back to help you later as you're going through this.
So we get all the way back to my place, and I'm like, you want to come in for a beer?
He's like, oh, absolutely.
So he comes in, and who's on the porch but Stone Cold Steve Austin, who I lived with at the time, and Kevin Nash are there.
So he's like, whoa, what the fuck?
And I was just at WrestleMania two years ago when I was inducted into Hall of Fame, and Miz was back doing one of his things.
Now he's got the reality show with his wife, which is super funny.
And there's times where I'm like, this is really real.
Because, you know, reality show, there's no such thing as real life and reality show shit.
But there's a lot of their stuff you can tell that they're like shooting on because they want like the real deal.
But he told that story.
Like he was backstage with one of his suits on and his wife there.
He goes, holy, come here, come here.
Let's talk about the story when we first met.
And I just knew that that kid, like...
He's hit a couple of roadblocks along the way that he could have quit.
He could have walked away from it.
He could have not.
But he had such a belief in himself.
I always tell people, never underestimate the power you give yourself by believing in you.
And that's who The Miz is.
And I think he's going to be a huge...
I love the fact, we get a whole different slant now because of the man, The Rock.
The biggest star in the world is one of us.
And did you see Blockers with Cena?
joe rogan
No.
diamond dallas page
Oh, dude, watch it.
It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
And I was flying home.
I'm telling my wife, you got to watch this movie.
It's hysterical.
She's sitting next to me.
And I'm not even watching.
I can't hear it because I've already seen it.
She's laughing so hard, but I'm laughing because I'm watching it and I know what they're saying or an idea of it, but when you got visual comedy, which you know, when you don't hear the words and you're watching like Buster Keaton and you're laughing, that's really good shit.
And it's super funny and seeing it killed it.
So, you know, he's a super A-list actor now.
He just did a Ferdinand movie and I mean, he's on fire.
Last time I saw him at the show, I just pulled him over for a second.
I don't really know him that well, but I wanted him to know that I was so proud of him, not for what he's done as an actor, even though I'm super proud of him on that level, but how he carried the company on his back for over a decade and still did so much work for charity.
It was mind-boggling.
No one has done more along that whole Make-A-Wish thing than Cena has.
But when I saw, did you see him when he hosted the ESPYs?
joe rogan
No.
diamond dallas page
Dude, you're a comedian.
You know how hard that shit is.
He is not a stand-up comedian, but he was friggin' amazing.
joe rogan
Well, he's been acting for so long now.
He's so loose.
And you know, this is the thing about being behind the mic on the WWE as well.
Just being able to do that in front of all those people and perform like that.
diamond dallas page
Absolutely.
That's its own level of sometimes 20-minute promos they're doing.
joe rogan
The Rock confuses me in how much energy he has.
I don't know how the fuck he can do all the things he does.
He's always doing something.
I go to his Instagram page all the time just to feel like a lazy fuck.
I'm not kidding, man.
He flies into China.
It's four in the morning.
He's lifting weights.
Like, what the fuck, man?
diamond dallas page
The hardest working cat I have ever seen.
joe rogan
On the planet.
Maybe on the planet.
He's always doing something.
I mean, he just sandwiches everything together.
I don't know how the fuck he does it.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, I'll tell you, Jericho is...
I put, like, guys like who are the most insane work ethic...
Like, right now, Rock is way past everybody.
joe rogan
He's passed anyone I've ever seen.
diamond dallas page
Me too.
And I'll just occasionally put a tweet out just to say, hey dude, keep up the great work.
You're blowing my mind.
joe rogan
He's one of those guys where I go, how long can a human, how long can a human body keep going like this?
Because you know he's only sleeping four hours a night.
diamond dallas page
I think he's kind of like my buddy Steve Yu.
They don't need to sleep.
They just keep going.
Jericho's the same way.
Jericho, when he's not wrestling, he's singing.
When he's not doing that, he's doing his podcast.
Or he's not doing that, he's doing this, or he's doing that, or he's doing this, or he's doing that.
And he flew in They friggin' private-jetted him into the all-in deal and didn't even know.
I don't like to know.
I want to be surprised.
And they shot this angle with Kenny Omega, who's one of the, like, premier superstars in our business right now.
And they did him and Jericho at 47. Sold out the Tokyo Dome, 47,000 people in January.
His match, they wrestled for...
The entrance to everything were 48 minutes.
They wrestled for 37 minutes.
He's 47. Well, he jumped on a plane while he's touring.
They flew him in.
He put a mask on.
You thought it was one guy.
He pulls the mask off after he drops Omega.
And bada-boom, it's Jericho.
The place goes batshit crazy.
He gets out, grabs his deal, hops on a plane and flies where he's supposed to play at 12 o'clock that night.
That's Jericho.
And the other guy is Batista.
So Batista, you know, between Galaxy, you know, I mean, here's four guys that are like red hot as actors and they're all the boys.
joe rogan
He's fantastic in Guardians of the Galaxy.
diamond dallas page
Oh my God, he's phenomenal.
joe rogan
He's so good at being like self-deprecating and dorky.
I mean, he plays like a goof so well.
diamond dallas page
And he's such a cool dude, man.
joe rogan
If Tony Hinchcliffe was here right now, he would be jizzing in his pants.
He really wouldn't be able to hold it together.
Now, what's interesting is that this group, I mean, Hulk Hogan was probably one of the first big guys to transcend into movies, right?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
But he got turned off by Hollywood.
He apparently got a couple of dick grabbers.
diamond dallas page
I don't know what the real story is, but I'll tell you what, of all the guys that I know, I'm super supportive of Hulk because he was super supportive of me.
joe rogan
It's a great guy.
diamond dallas page
Oh man.
Right now, he finally got back and they finally brought him back in to WWE, which I was super excited about because, to me, going into Hall of Fame without Hulk being in there, it was kind of like...
joe rogan
Pull out the video of me interviewing Hulk Hogan for Spike TV. I got a chance to interview him for Spike TV back in the day when he was...
Spike TV went into the wrestling business for a little bit.
diamond dallas page
Sure, sure, sure.
I helped that.
I helped them do that because I was one of the names that brought, you know, that's when I was wrestling.
joe rogan
So for me as a kid, I mean, I was a giant fan of Jimmy Superfly Snuka and Bob Backlund, all that when I was in high school, early 80s, and Hulk Hogan.
So for me, to get a chance to interview Hulk Hogan, it was...
Look at this.
The greatest professional wrestlers of all time, sports and entertainment, huge personality, the one and only Hulk Hogan.
We share a birthday, too.
Welcome aboard, sir.
diamond dallas page
How are you?
Thank you, my brother.
unidentified
You know, to be here with Joe Mania and Dana White, it doesn't get any better than this, brother.
diamond dallas page
These guys are going to war out here.
unidentified
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Now, you've been in some MMA fights before.
Are you a UFC fan?
unidentified
Oh, I'm a huge fan, my brother.
diamond dallas page
I sure am.
joe rogan
Now, I understand that you have recently announced a partnership with TNA Wrestling and its president, Dixie Carter.
And you're going to be moving to Spike TV. We're going to see some Hulkamania on Spike TV. Tell us more about that.
diamond dallas page
Well, you know, brother, tonight I got a ton of energy.
unidentified
And I'm partners with Spike.
I'm partners with Dixie Carter.
I'm partners with TNA. And we just got the green light, brother, on January 4th.
diamond dallas page
TNA Impact.
We're going wide open.
We're going head-on-head.
unidentified
We're going to battle with the WWE. Monday night, January 4th.
diamond dallas page
Hulk Hogan and TNA. We're coming after everybody.
unidentified
We're coming after everybody.
joe rogan
Now, I understand that you recently released a book.
You've done a wrestling tour in Australia.
unidentified
When are we going to see Hulk Hogan wrestle in TNA? Well, brother, I'm going January 4th.
diamond dallas page
Like I said, Monday night.
unidentified
We're going to award TNA Impact, but you never know.
diamond dallas page
I'm going over there to take over.
The maniacs are coming.
All the TNA stars are going to be there.
unidentified
And you never know when the old man with the yellow boots might just step in that ring, brother.
joe rogan
Hulk Hogan is coming back, ladies and gentlemen.
TNA Wrestling, live on Spike TV. Hulk's here for the fights.
unidentified
You know you want to watch him on TV. What you gonna do, brother, when the UFC runs wild on you?
joe rogan
What are you gonna do?
That's the good question.
diamond dallas page
Thank you very much, sir.
You had a Gene Okerlund spot, brother.
I was like a little kid there.
joe rogan
I was so happy.
diamond dallas page
You ever met Gene Oakland?
joe rogan
No.
diamond dallas page
Oh man, one of the nice guys on the planet.
But Hulk, I mean, when I got to do my stuff with him, because we not only did the Malone stuff, you know, with me and Malone against Rodman and Hogan, but the next month, they come in, and because we shot that angle on The Tonight Show, and the next month, they go in, Hogan and Bischoff, and they run Jay off the set.
I come in from the wings, not Hulk on his ass, and it's me and Jay Leno against Hogan and Bischoff.
unidentified
You fucking Jay Leno holding the Hulk down!
diamond dallas page
Look at Hulk putting him over!
Look at Hulk putting him over now!
joe rogan
Oh my god, that is hilarious!
Oh, that is so funny!
Jay Leno is holding the Hulk down, and he grabs his hair!
Oh Jesus Christ!
This is so ridiculous.
diamond dallas page
Oh, God, it was.
But, you know, it was so much fun.
I'll tell you, you know Leno.
Yeah.
Another guy, I mean, he came and worked out with us, and he didn't spend as much time like Malone did, because Malone's like a super athlete.
joe rogan
Right.
I don't even think Jay works out at all.
diamond dallas page
No.
joe rogan
He just turns wrenches.
diamond dallas page
Well, got to learn, you know, got to learn how to move around a little bit.
And, you know, we just worked around.
And Hulk was never that guy to lay stuff out.
Like today, a lot of this stuff is laid out.
You know, back then it was like you called as you go.
And so I was a guy who actually did that.
I could lay everything out.
And that's how I like to know where we're going.
And I'm still going to talk to you the whole time.
You know, but, you know, bottom line is, you know, Jay just working through it.
And it was a lot of fun, man.
joe rogan
Well, when Hulk Hogan was in Rocky III, I mean...
diamond dallas page
That was huge.
joe rogan
That was fucking fantastic.
diamond dallas page
That was huge.
joe rogan
And then you also got to see how goddamn big he is.
unidentified
Right, next to Sly.
When you see him next to Vester Stallone, you just go, whoa!
joe rogan
When he picks Sly up by his neck.
diamond dallas page
Right, right.
joe rogan
And you're like, holy shit!
And then, you know, when they go through the whole thing, when after it, you know, Hulk is like smiling and laughing with him.
And Stallone was like, oh, okay.
You know, Rocky was like, oh, all right.
Like, uh, you're a little rough out there on me.
diamond dallas page
He's like, that's what it is, brother.
One of the greatest moments ever.
joe rogan
That was a great moment in film.
diamond dallas page
It's awesome.
joe rogan
I mean, I love that.
That was a big moment in film, too, for a lot of people that thought, like, pro wrestling is fake, right?
It's like, well, there ain't nothing fake about that.
I mean, it's entertainment.
But if you don't think that's fucking difficult to do, like, look at the size difference.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
diamond dallas page
Look at Hulk.
He looked like a million bucks there.
unidentified
He did.
joe rogan
He looked fantastic.
unidentified
Yeah.
diamond dallas page
He was like, it was just super good to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, when he picks him up over his head.
Is there a video in this?
See if you can find video of it.
Because when Paulie's going crazy and he's having a heart attack.
diamond dallas page
Oh, I love that.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
That was a great fucking scene.
diamond dallas page
You know what I love about Sly?
He's the perfect example of everybody counting him out, and he's fucking stronger than ever again, you know?
joe rogan
He's like, yeah, we're gonna move around a little bit.
Come on, I'll hit you a little bit, a little bit of this.
diamond dallas page
Little Hulkamania music there.
unidentified
That was snug.
joe rogan
Well, Stallone was so slim and trim back then.
It's kind of hilarious that he was playing a heavyweight champion because he's not a big guy.
He really is more like a middleweight.
But Hogan was...
I mean, he wouldn't even be able to, back in these days, he wouldn't even be able to make the UFC's weight limit.
The UFC has a 265-pound cutoff for whatever reason.
diamond dallas page
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no super heavyweight division in MMA. I didn't know that.
Yeah, there's a super heavyweight division.
It's possible, but the UFC's never implemented it, so it's been sanctioned.
There's a 265 and above.
The UFC's heavyweight division has a cutoff, and a bunch of guys have had a cut weight.
Brock's a big example.
diamond dallas page
Sure he is.
joe rogan
Brock had a cut weight to make 265. Francis Ngano, Tim Sylvia, a few guys have had actually cut weight.
Mark Hunt, cut weight to make 265. Yeah, Mark's not walking around anymore.
He's a fucking tank.
5'10", 290. Just fuck it.
diamond dallas page
Bad.
Bad.
He's a bad man.
joe rogan
It's a bad man, Mark Hunt.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, what I love about Sly, like, you know, you go back to, and a lot of people don't know that story, I'm sure you do, you know, how he wrote that script of Rocky and would not sell it.
joe rogan
They wanted, like, Ryan O'Neill to play Rocky or someone?
Paul Newman?
I forget who it was.
I feel like it was Ryan O'Neill.
They wanted Ryan O'Neill to play Rocky.
And he held out.
He's like, no, I fucking wrote this.
This is me.
diamond dallas page
Your vehicle.
That's the greatest example of being positively unstoppable and owning it.
Sylvester Stallone could have written this book or has 100,000 times.
He's one of my mentors without me knowing him because I've just watched how he's lived his life.
He's recreated himself so many times and that's what I'm constantly trying to do.
joe rogan
Craziest of the guys doing the Expendables as a fuckin' action star, he's in his 70s.
diamond dallas page
Yeah, crazy.
joe rogan
Who the fuck in their 70s is believable in an action role?
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
Because these guys have beat people up in movies like, ah, suspension of disbelief, I'll let it slide.
diamond dallas page
Right, right.
joe rogan
But when you see him doing it, you're like, I kinda believe it.
diamond dallas page
I believe it.
joe rogan
The guy's still jacked at 72, I think, 73 years old, whatever the fuck he is.
How old is he now?
He's 72. 72 years old!
unidentified
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
That's fucking insane!
diamond dallas page
Let me give you a behind the scenes from Stone Cold Steve Austin.
He's a brother to me.
Like a real one.
We lived together.
We rode together.
One of my best friends.
And he's doing the first Expendables.
And he's doing...
We talk about...
I guess he's on the set for a couple of weeks by this time.
And he says, I'll tell you what, D... And you remember, every top alpha dog is in that first movie, because he grabbed the heavies of the heavies, the guys who had the biggest names.
And Austin said, in a world of alpha dogs, there is one number one guy, and his name is Sylvester Stallone.
And he said when he were doing the Hollywood fight in the back, Stallone was like, come on!
Bring it!
Like, meant it.
joe rogan
He broke his fucking neck in that movie.
unidentified
Right!
joe rogan
Broke his neck.
Have you seen his neck?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like, they did an x-ray of his neck.
He's got these fucking screws keeping his spine together in his neck.
He showed it on.
It was either The Night Show or Letterman.
But he was on and they showed an x-ray of his neck.
He broke his fucking neck doing that movie.
Because he's 68 at the time, 69, and he's getting thrown into a wall.
diamond dallas page
Right, and telling Austin, who's a tough son of a bitch, to bring it.
joe rogan
He wants it to be real.
He got knocked out by Antonio Tarver in one of those Rocky movies.
diamond dallas page
Right, right.
joe rogan
I mean, I think he was deep into his 60s, and he got fucking knocked out.
They're doing the boxing scenes where they're going over things, and Tarver cracked him.
diamond dallas page
I would kill to do a workout with him and show him, because no one works out harder than he does.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at his neck.
It's all fucking fused together with plates.
diamond dallas page
The bionic man.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's fucking crazy.
So he's got three discs fused together.
diamond dallas page
He might be the toughest guy, pound for pound, age for age alive.
joe rogan
What's that?
unidentified
Four months ago.
joe rogan
This is him four months ago.
diamond dallas page
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Who's the other guy?
I don't know.
Take your sunglasses off, bro.
Who are you?
Look how jacked he is.
diamond dallas page
72. Crazy, man.
I love the guy, man.
I mean, if you want to feel good, just sit down and watch a Rocky movie.
joe rogan
No, I interviewed him, too.
He was a super nice guy.
Like, real, like, self-deprecating, loose laugh.
Doesn't take himself seriously at all.
No ego, just joking around.
diamond dallas page
I love it.
joe rogan
Easy.
Like, somebody heckled out.
He's like, is that you, Mom?
He's really funny.
He's a funny guy.
diamond dallas page
That's beautiful.
joe rogan
Real, real nice guy, too.
Yeah.
But listen, man.
I don't know what else we could talk about, but I think what you're doing is fucking awesome.
I'm super pumped that we finally got together.
I would love to do a workout with you for sure.
diamond dallas page
Absolutely.
What about tomorrow?
joe rogan
What time tomorrow?
diamond dallas page
I'm leaving on Thursday afternoon, so I have...
joe rogan
Let's figure this out after the show's over.
diamond dallas page
Let me tell you the one thing I want to do about this.
Let me tell you about Positively Unstoppable.
joe rogan
When's it come out?
diamond dallas page
The Art of Owning It.
It doesn't come out until January, but here's my goal.
I had two books before this.
I didn't push them to be bestsellers because they weren't really worthy.
This is, because I know it's going to really help people.
And here's the hook that I want to do.
The reason I want people to get it, pre-order it now.
And this is what I'm going to give with this.
Anyone, and it's up on my site, if you go to ddpyoga.com slash positivelyunstoppable, And you order the book there, there'll be an address right there, the DDP Yoga Performance Center, which is 1239 Concord Road, Smyrna, Georgia, 30080. If you send me a self-addressed stamped envelope, we've got these book plates that random house, it's a random house book, and they send me these book plates that I'm going to sign.
And if you send me that self-adjust stamped envelope with a proof that you purchased the book, that you pre-ordered the book, I'm gonna send you my autograph.
Well, autograph in the book, when I'm doing a Comic-Con, I'm $40 for a picture, $40 for an autograph, $60 combo.
The book costs $24.99.
So if you're looking to get a DDP signature, Diamond Dallas Page signature, you got it for the book.
I will send it to you.
My goal is to make Positively Unstoppable a best-selling book.
And I think in my easiest, not easiest, the only way I'm really going to do it is by pre-order.
Because I don't have any machine behind me except for my own shit, you know?
And doing this the way, I just want to check one thing.
joe rogan
Let me look at it.
And what's the app?
How can people find the app?
diamond dallas page
Oh, the app is at ddpyoga.com.
Like, it's up on iTunes and Droid.
joe rogan
And if they're looking for it on iTunes or on the Google Marketplace?
diamond dallas page
But if it's on iTunes or Droid, well, it's going to cost more because, you know, they charge more.
They tack on 30%.
joe rogan
So you can download the app from your website?
diamond dallas page
You go to DiamondDallasPage.com and you will be able to get the app right there.
And right now I'm doing 20% off on the app.
joe rogan
How does that work though?
Don't you have to go to the app store to put an app on your phone?
diamond dallas page
I'm not really actually sure how to do that.
joe rogan
Do you know that, Jamie?
diamond dallas page
I'm not exactly sure how that works, but I just know if you go to ddpyoga.com, it's going to be cheaper, and you can get it for a month, three months, a year, whatever.
The deal is there.
They'll figure it out.
Maybe we can come back when this gets released and talk about this, but I've got a new documentary coming out.
You've already seen Jake's, and I know you're going to love The Resurrection, Jake the Snake.
If you want to see that, we just took it off of Netflix.
It's only on iTunes.
It's like 99 cents.
You're looking to inspire.
Everyone has some sort of addiction in their life, whether it's their uncle, their father, their sister, their brother.
They're somewhere around it.
I've had so many people come up to me and so many people have come up to Jake and say, that movie changed my life.
People come up and say, I'm three months sober.
I'm two years sober.
Like, that movie changed my life.
And Jake doing the program It gave him a way to get wins, meaning like going from 307 pounds to under 300, then to 270, and so forth.
But being able to move more and be able to feel better.
So resurrection gives you that inspiration.
And you just watched Arthur's video.
Well, Jake's movie, The Resurrection of Jake's Snake, you're going to laugh.
You're going to cry.
Most of all, you're going to be inspired.
So the new documentary we got coming out will be out sometime in 2019. I'll talk to you before it comes out.
And it's called Relentless.
And it goes from the day that Kevin Nash blows my back out.
And the other guy said he didn't do it.
It was my body just finally blew out.
He's always trying to protect me and vice versa.
But when I blew my back out to where we are today, We have actually take out the wrestling shit.
We have 16 years of footage of this entire journey up and down and up and down and how We became with the program at eight-year overnight success And this is one of the most inspiring movies.
I know anybody will ever see and that'll be out this year and um That's really it.
You know, the app is at ddpyoga.com.
If you want to get the book, if you want to pre-sell, go to ddpyoga.com slash positivelyunstoppable.
And like I say, I'd love to send you a...
joe rogan
We'll put all this shit up on Twitter, too.
unidentified
Awesome, man.
joe rogan
We'll put the video for Arthur on Twitter, too, because it's fucking fantastic.
diamond dallas page
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
Thank you, brother.
Thank you very much, man.
It was awesome.
I'm glad we finally did this.
diamond dallas page
Awesome.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody!
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