Aug. 2, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Must be from New York. | ||
| Yeah, well, you can definitely tell that. | ||
| Four, three, two... | ||
| And we're live, John Joseph. | ||
| What's up, brother? | ||
| How are you, man? | ||
| Yo, this is like... | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| And I'm excited, too, for... | ||
| I think it could set a nice precedent because there's so much fucking toxic energy between vegans and non-vegans. | ||
| Even if we're just joking around, people get so fucking angry, and it's not necessary. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, where's the humor? | ||
| Where's the comedy? | ||
| I mean, the other thing is, I don't sit around calling. | ||
| I'm not defined by what the fuck I eat. | ||
| Like this dude said, how come you don't call yourself a vegan? | ||
| I'm like, because I do a lot more shit than just eat plant-based food. | ||
| It's part of what I do. | ||
| But don't you call yourself a vegan? | ||
| I mean, you are a vegan, right? | ||
| I practice that lifestyle for sure, but I don't call myself a vegan. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| I would say, people say, you know, I don't like to put any type of material label on myself. | ||
| And if somebody says to me and pushes the issue, I'm like, I'm more of a Hare Krishna, Bhakta Yoga person than I am a vegan. | ||
| You know, even though I don't wear animal products, I don't use animal products, I eat a plant-based diet 100%. | ||
| But to call myself that just puts me in some, you know, some shelf. | ||
| Oh, it's just another vegan or whatever the fuck, you know? | ||
| Well, you know, it seems to me that people are always searching for an identity. | ||
| And if they have an identity that, you know, I'm a carnivore, I'm on the carnivore diet, which is all the latest trend. | ||
| And then people get really hopped up on that. | ||
| And that's all they want to do is talk carnivore diet. | ||
| The difference between what's happening right now with this carnivore diet and vegans seems very similar to me in that they're very into the identity of their food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not their food choices, but certainly into the fact that this is how they identify. | ||
| They talk about it all the time. | ||
| And I just think there's pitfalls in that. | ||
| There's like traps that people fall into where they lock their identity into a group. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And this is what happens with vegans. | ||
| It happens to hunters. | ||
| It happens with Republicans. | ||
| It happens with Democrats. | ||
| It just becomes a group thing. | ||
| And then you automatically oppose people in the other group and you have conflict with them. | ||
| You have hate with them. | ||
| Do we need more walls? | ||
| We don't need more walls. | ||
| And I'll tell you what really got it for me. | ||
| And I started doing this in 81 before anybody. | ||
| I came out of incarceration. | ||
| I came out of abusive foster homes. | ||
| My father was a professional fighter. | ||
| Tried to murder my mom. | ||
| Beat her continuously. | ||
| I didn't even find out that I was conceived out of a rape from him on my mom. | ||
| So getting locked up, hitting the streets. | ||
| And then meeting the Bad Brains in 1980 and seeing them and who they were surrounded by. | ||
| It was a lot of, you know, people who were into very metaphysical stuff, so I got into the yoga. | ||
| And I know you've been doing yoga now too. | ||
| So one of the first tenets of the yoga practice, which slams all this label shit, is Aham Brahmasmi. | ||
| That I'm actually... | ||
| My identity is a spirit soul. | ||
| Beyond anything in the material world, any label you want to put on yourself. | ||
| So that's really... | ||
| Where I come from with the whole thing. | ||
| And I think the toxicity level that is existing now just because of what people fucking choose to eat. | ||
| I mean, I have my issues with certain things that are being done because of the condition of the planet. | ||
| We're not being good custodians of this planet that we're in charge. | ||
| For kids and future generations, what's being done now, there's industries that are destroying the planet. | ||
| Like, you know, some of it is irreparable damage being done. | ||
| But I really try to keep it metaphysical with everything I do and who I help. | ||
| I mean, I'm working on a documentary right now. | ||
| I hear 30 to life with hardcore... | ||
| Fucking ex-cons that just did 20, 25 years, 30 years. | ||
| If I go in there trying to preach some vegan shit to them, I'm coming at them like a fucking, like, yo, dude, this is where I've been. | ||
| I've been where you are. | ||
| People help me, and I'm here to help you. | ||
| We didn't start out You know, we don't even say, you know, we say, you know, we're going to put you on a plant-based diet. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Tell them, don't wear leather fucking shoes? | ||
| Don't do this, don't do... | ||
| You know, and the whole thing, even when Jay-Z and Beyonce, it's never enough. | ||
| They went and... | ||
| They said vegan. | ||
| We're practicing a vegan diet. | ||
| We're doing a 30-day vegan diet. | ||
| So what do the vegans do? | ||
| Attack them. | ||
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Oh, but they're wearing fucking leather. | |
| You have to be able to fan the spark. | ||
| So if you see some goodness in someone... | ||
| You have to be able to fan that spark, not throw water on it. | ||
| And that's the problem that's being done is people are so judgmental because they've built this walls, the walls between them, that it's just fall finding. | ||
| And I was telling the guys I trained them this morning, we're doing this 30 to life with Kip Anderson and... | ||
| We're at the Amity Foundation where these guys got paroled and I said, look, there's two types of mentality in the world. | ||
| There's the B mentality that's looking for the sweet and the good in people and then there's the flies and they're looking for the shit. | ||
| I said, when you see shit on a sidewalk and a dog takes a shit or in New York a human takes a shit within a matter of fucking 20 seconds there's flies on that motherfucker. | ||
| So I try to roll with the PMA Which I learned from Bad Brains, Positive Mental Attitude, which Napoleon Hill, HR copped it from Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich and all those books on self-help. | ||
| And it was like he told me no matter what circumstances you may be in, and I was in the Navy at the time in Norfolk, Fucking smuggling, fucking up, catching cases, took Navy over going back to jail, and I was fucking up. | ||
| I didn't know what to do. | ||
| Fucked out of my mind, hanging out with Henry Rollins and Ian McKay and all those guys in the D.C. hardcore scene and New York punk scene. | ||
| You know, hanging with John Belushi on Fear that night. | ||
| We were the ones that wrecked the set of Saturday Night Live and just, you know, just doing crazy shit. | ||
| And he just told me, you know, whatever you may be going through in life, if you keep a positive mental attitude, you could get through anything. | ||
| So how am I going to criticize people just because you eat meat or do whatever? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| You know, and some of these people are hardcore Christians, and it's like you're supposed to say, hey, what, you know, hate the sin, not the sinner, or whatever the fuck that whole philosophy deals with. | ||
| I mean, my point is, I'm trying to knock down the walls between people and unified people, so. | ||
| I think what you do good is you're a very positive role model in terms of hard work, in terms of your mental fortitude and how you approach things. | ||
| And I think people need that. | ||
| And I think one of the things that's going on right now with social media and one of the reasons why people will attack Jay-Z for wearing leather shoes, even though they're looking to stand out. | ||
| They're looking to be virtuous. | ||
| They're looking to be the person that's more virtuous than the person we're pointing a finger at. | ||
| Man, fuck them. | ||
| And there's always a lot of, fuck people who aren't this, or fuck people who aren't that. | ||
| You should never say, fuck people, because people are just like you. | ||
| They're human beings, and everybody's on a different path. | ||
| Tell me why you believe the way you believe. | ||
| Tell me why you think the way you think. | ||
| And I'll tell you why I think the way I think, and I bet we'll find common ground. | ||
| And that's what human beings need to do more with each other. | ||
| The problem with social media is it gives them this unusual platform to get people to pay attention to their ideas. | ||
| Maybe their ideas aren't even that good. | ||
| Or maybe their ideas are very obvious. | ||
| You know, like you're gonna point at someone, hey man, you know, you shouldn't say this word, hey man, you shouldn't do this thing, because we've decided that that's a bad thing, we've decided that that's culturally unacceptable anymore, and now everyone's gonna attack for that very reason. | ||
| Instead of describing how they feel, what makes them feel when they say something, what makes them feel when they do things, what's going on in their head, so we can all relate on common ground, people just want to attack. | ||
| And it's a big problem with what's going on. | ||
| Social media is way too young. | ||
| It's a new thing. | ||
| And people are using it in these really fucked up ways. | ||
| They don't exactly know what they're doing while they're doing it. | ||
| They're not even aware of the effect of their printed word, what it's going to have. | ||
| That's why you have so many trolls and so many mean people and so many people just trying to get a rise out of someone. | ||
| They're not even aware of this process they're setting in motion. | ||
| They just know they could push a button and watch something happen. | ||
| They're just going, whoo, whoo. | ||
| I mean, this is a lot of what's going on today. | ||
| I mean, and some of this stuff is destroying people's lives, what they're fucking doing. | ||
| They don't realize that. | ||
| You know, it's a shame because, like, when I was growing up, we didn't have social media. | ||
| There was no motherfucking internet. | ||
| There was no none of... | ||
| You know, I remember I had the first pager... | ||
| It was fucking, you know, gigantic. | ||
| So, like, we didn't even have no internet. | ||
| Everything was, you know, word of mouth. | ||
| And if you wanted to catch shows, if you wanted to do this. | ||
| If you had a beef with somebody, you didn't go on fucking social media and talk a bunch of bullshit. | ||
| You fucking walked up to the person and you said, hey, here I am. | ||
| And what the fuck? | ||
| Let's deal with this. | ||
| Let's talk about it. | ||
| Talk it out. | ||
| But now you got people buying followers and doing other... | ||
| It's just... | ||
| You know, it's just the most toxic environment in a lot of ways, and it's a shame because it could be used, and that's why I never post negative shit. | ||
| I try to use the platform, you know, make lighter shit, not have a stick up your ass. | ||
| There's too many people that do even the plant-based vegan thing, and everything's so fucking serious. | ||
| I'm like, you might reach more people if you lightened up, you know, like Stripes. | ||
| Lighten up, Francis. | ||
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You know, fucking... | |
| If you say... | ||
| You eat meat, I'll kill you. | ||
| Well, you did write a book called Meat Is For Pussies. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you how that came about. | ||
| And actually, I got attacked. | ||
| I'm going to tell you something else. | ||
| You want to talk about destroying people. | ||
| I got attacked more by the vegan feminists for that book fucking tried to destroy me. | ||
| Because you wrote pussies? | ||
| They wrote everybody because I wrote pussies. | ||
| Now, first of all, and then she went on a blog and called me a misogynistic. | ||
| I said, yeah, I like misogynistic. | ||
| You know, call me a misogynistic scumbag and a fucking piece of shit and all this. | ||
| So I just had, I just wrote, hey, any of you ladies that bought this book for their fellas and it helped them, please fucking holler at this fucking woman and tell us something. | ||
| They shut her fucking blog down. | ||
| And then she called me a maniac. | ||
| She called you a maniac because you sent people on her the way she sent people on you. | ||
| But dig this, and then I said, we have a saying on the streets in New York back in the day, don't start none and there won't be none. | ||
| But the thing was, I'm going to tell you how that book title came about because it was a woman, actually Karen Rinaldi from HarperCollins. | ||
| Wave. | ||
| And what happened was I was training at Crunch. | ||
| Aaron Dragozanuski is my trainer. | ||
| And he's got me through all my fucking Ironmans and everything. | ||
| I was a fucking broken up person, injuries, all this shit. | ||
| So I was working at Crunch and training with him. | ||
| And then another person, a friend of mine, all the Five Points guys used to be there. | ||
| You would see them all. | ||
| They had a ring on the second floor. | ||
| So this guy was doing pad work and I'm telling him, hey, you know, listen, man, you got a fight coming up, man. | ||
| Get on the chlorophyll, get on the wheatgrass, get on, you know, eat as much recovery foods as you can that's going to fight inflammation. | ||
| So some fucking mama Luke with fucking 1980s tiger stripe pants fucking... | ||
| Yeah, fucking, you know, he just took everything out of context and then he's like, yeah, fucking people that don't eat meat are fucking pussies. | ||
| And I'm like, yo, you got like 50 pounds on me, but if you want to put some head gear and get in the ring, I'll oblige you. | ||
| He's like, what? | ||
| I said, I don't eat meat, bro. | ||
| And then the funny shit with the whole book title was it was going to be called The Grow Green Road to Health, Fitness, and Longevity. | ||
| And my business partner, Todd Erwin, goes, Motherfucker, who are you, Dr. Oz? | ||
| Nobody wants to hear that book from you. | ||
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You're John Bloodclot Joseph Singer from the Cro-Mags. | |
| They want... | ||
| And then I said, yeah... | ||
| I said, yeah, this motherfucker was like, you know, saying fucking people that don't eat me, the pussies. | ||
| I'm like, motherfucker, that dude probably ain't seen his dick in fucking 10 years. | ||
| He was overweight and all this shit. | ||
| I said, that motherfucker's the pussy. | ||
| And he's like, yo, you know what? | ||
| Throw it back in their face. | ||
| And I was like, I don't know, man. | ||
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That's... | |
| You know, that's a pretty fucking bold statement. | ||
| He said, do it, do it. | ||
| So we released it. | ||
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So right away, the fucking emails and the toxicity of the vegans. | |
| That's hilarious that it started that way. | ||
| Yo, that's how it started. | ||
| And then our agent, Dan, we got hooked up with this guy, Dan, from ICM. He's like... | ||
| Met my business partner in the Hamptons. | ||
| He's like, yo, that book is fucking dope, man. | ||
| I think we could get a deal. | ||
| Within a week, he had four offers. | ||
| So you wrote it first? | ||
| Yeah, I wrote it first, and we put it out. | ||
| What was the thought process behind writing it? | ||
| You just had a lot of shit in your head, you just wanted to get out? | ||
| Yeah, well, I studied writing under Robert McKee, so I wrote my memoir first. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, story. | ||
| That guy's like my guru for writing. | ||
| I took the story seminar twice. | ||
| He's fucking amazing. | ||
| I mean, Brian Cox's portrayal of him in adaptation. | ||
| Fucking brilliant. | ||
| Spot on. | ||
| I actually became friends with Mr. McKee. | ||
| He smoked like crazy. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, he smoked cigarettes like a fucking chimney. | ||
| A lot of writers do, man. | ||
| Yeah, but not during the class. | ||
| So when he had the breaks, he would fucking do like two, three cigarettes. | ||
| I said, you know, my friend has an organic green tea extract company. | ||
| And the polyphenols in that is gonna counteract all your fucking smoking shit that you're doing So I gave him five bottles and then every time he would call him he would have his people call Yo, you know that guy fucking McGowan get him to bring me some more of that green tea shit Did he quit smoking? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't seen him in a while. | ||
| The problem is it gives them a charge. | ||
| It gives them a nootropic charge. | ||
| It fires up your brain. | ||
| You ever smoke a cigarette? | ||
| Man, I smoke like crazy. | ||
| I used to smoke Cools in lockup and shit. | ||
| Like, you know, because that's what they give you in Spofford. | ||
| And when I went upstate, it was Cools. | ||
| When did you quit? | ||
| I quit because I started boxing in lockup. | ||
| And they would have us run this fucking hill called Suicide Hill. | ||
| And I would be fucking puking. | ||
| And I was like, I gotta quit fucking smoking. | ||
| So I quit smoking. | ||
| They used to do smoker fights in the lockup. | ||
| So if you had a beef with somebody, you went into this... | ||
| Explain smokers to people. | ||
| They don't know what that means. | ||
| Smoke of fights means you just have a beef with somebody and you could just throw on the gloves and go at it and as long as it's like reasonably within 20 pounds of a weight difference like you know although in lockup I saw people much bigger people fighting much And some of them guys, I mean, I was not good. | ||
| I would fight the black dudes and they would just beat the shit out of me. | ||
| But I would just keep coming back. | ||
| You know, I'm Irish. | ||
| I don't quit, man. | ||
| And then, you know, I learned more of the sweet science. | ||
| So you quit smoking just for boxing? | ||
| Yeah, I quit smoking for that reason. | ||
| But when I was locked up, I didn't quit almost to the end because toward the end of your sentence, they allow you to go home because they want to reintegrate you back with your family or whatever. | ||
| And I never grew up with my mom, so they would send us home. | ||
| So we would take the carton of cigarettes. | ||
| And open it up very carefully, open up the cellophane carefully, slide the cellophane down and put joints inside the cigarette pack, slide it back up, glue it, close the carton of cigarettes, and that's how we would get the weed back from the visits. | ||
| Because I wasn't smoking weed coming back out of nobody's ass. | ||
| That was not happening. | ||
| I'm like, no thank you. | ||
| So that was the process. | ||
| And, you know, so that's why I quit. | ||
| But that's, the book came, I had a lot of shit, a lot of demons inside of me from what happened to me. | ||
| Me and my two brothers were, you know, pretty severely abused in all kinds of ways in this foster home, physically, mentally, sexually abused by the older people. | ||
| Kids in the home it was fucked up and I never told anybody but that was always something no matter how much I lived as a monk for two years a Hare Krishna monk nothing cured that fucking anger that was inside of me that I had toward these people for what they did to me and the secret of like yo it's fucked up to say like yo you're this dude from the streets You had knife fights with Puerto Ricans. | ||
| I got shot with a.22 in Forest Park selling angel dust. | ||
| I got stabbed. | ||
| And then to try to say, yo, this motherfucker molesting me is... | ||
| It took a lot out of me to... | ||
| And nobody knew it because I never talked about it. | ||
| And I took McKee's class and that was the turning point because I went up to him and I was writing a script at the time based on what happened to me in the foster home. | ||
| The kids... | ||
| In the screenplay, we based what happened to me in my younger period of my life. | ||
| And I never told anybody what happened. | ||
| I would just avoid that. | ||
| But then when I started writing the book and I was taking his class... | ||
| And between, you know, parts of his thing, when you went on the break, you could walk up to Robert McKee and say, ask him questions. | ||
| So I said, Mr. McKee, as far as a protagonist who was abused as a kid, and he stopped me right there. | ||
| And he said, listen, stop right there. | ||
| He said, McGowan. | ||
| Everybody uses it. | ||
| It's a cliche, you know, abusive children, to develop empathy for characters we could otherwise not give a fuck about. | ||
| It's not what happens to somebody, it's what they do as a result of it. | ||
| And that's the fucking light came on. | ||
| And I mean, for years I would sit there, and it took me seven years to write the evolution of a Cro-Magnon. | ||
| And I would get to that part of the story... | ||
| And I would lose my shit and break down crying like fucking uncontrollably because of what happened to me and my brothers. | ||
| So I just skipped over that part and I would never address it, but then He gave me the strength in a lot of ways to be able to say, hey man, he wrote in my book, so I have his book, and he wrote to me, he goes, John, always write the truth. | ||
| And that's when I knew that that needed to come out in the book to cleanse myself. | ||
| I've been two years on crack, 88 to 90 crack pills. | ||
| You know, doing whatever, getting shot at with fucking AR-15s, robbing deals. | ||
| I had TOS, or it was KOS at the time, kill on sight. | ||
| I was a fucking maniac. | ||
| Because I just didn't care. | ||
| I actually kind of wish subconsciously that somebody would put a fucking bullet at me when you're doing crack. | ||
| A lot of people get molested. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They almost act out to the point where they want someone else to do it for them because they don't want to leave. | ||
| Yeah, I was definitely in a lot of ways. | ||
| That's that's what I was doing. | ||
| But when I took his when that seminar helped me so much Because it's really like, he's really like a fucking guru and a teacher, man. | ||
| The man is amazing. | ||
| If you ever get a chance to take the Robert McKee story seminar, it's a three-day seminar. | ||
| I took it twice, then he does workshops. | ||
| But the story seminar, I just walked out of there after the third day. | ||
| It's 10 hours a day and you're just like, you're fucking, you're like speechless. | ||
| Like, what the fuck did I just experience? | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| And that gave me the power to go and tell my story the right way. | ||
| And the amount of emails of people that I received that were like, yo, that shit was done to me. | ||
| Thank you for having the courage to tell the story. | ||
| And, you know, I just kept writing after that. | ||
| So even the meat is for pussies podcast. | ||
| If you read it, it's tongue in cheek. | ||
| There's a lot of dudes that eat meat that could kick the shit out of me. | ||
| What I'm saying is if you continue to lead a sanitary lifestyle and you eat this fucked up food that's out there, that they're putting out there, that they're knowingly putting out there to fucking poison you because they're tied in with the pharmaceutical companies, it's a racket. | ||
| It's not a conspiracy. | ||
| It's been proven that this is what they're doing. | ||
| You will become a pussy dependent on the pharmaceutical companies to keep you alive. | ||
| If that's what you want, then this book is not for you. | ||
| Put it back. | ||
| So you got into Hare Krishna's and you got into this whole consciousness trip from the bad brains, which is crazy. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| People would assume you think of the hardcore scene, you're thinking of drugs and violence and tattoos and chaos. | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| Tell me about that. | ||
| How did you get into Hare Krishna's? | ||
| I'm going to tell you. | ||
| Initially, my first interaction with Rastafarians, it was 1980. My ship was going to Jamaica. | ||
| So when you go to any port and they take you down on the mess deck and they show everyone, you go here, you go there, they show you these films. | ||
| So when we were getting ready to go to Jamaica, they're like, if you're going to use, and it's these military films from the 60s, if you're going to use... | ||
| Have sex with a prostitute. | ||
| Make sure you use a prophylactic. | ||
| And then the next photo was a fucking Rastafarian with smoke coming out of every fucking orifice. | ||
| And they're like, and under no circumstances should you talk to these people. | ||
| They're just going to try to sell you drugs. | ||
| So who the fuck do you think was the first people when I got off the ship? | ||
| Because I didn't hang out with any of the dudes on my ship. | ||
| I got the fuck away from it. | ||
| I was the only punk rocker. | ||
| I was wearing Sex Pistols Destroy fucking t-shirts. | ||
| They're looking at me like I was already into punk rock since the 70s. | ||
| So I get off the ship and I meet this like 20-something year old fucking dread dude. | ||
| And he's like, yeah, man, what you need? | ||
| I said, listen, you know, I'm fucking smuggling some weed back. | ||
| I want to get take because this other sailor told me, yo, you go in there and you get them to take you to the carving shops and they carve out the fucking statue and they pack the lamb's bread in there and then seal up the statue. | ||
| And then I had a hookup with the officer, the guy who did the watch, and counted, so say, every fifth person you got searched. | ||
| So I was always avoiding that because I would hit the dude off with some weed or whatever the fuck it was. | ||
| So when I went to Jamaica... | ||
| I asked this kid, as soon as I got off the boat, like there was no hotels in Montego Bay, nothing. | ||
| It was just you took the ship, the ship anchored out in the bay, and you took a boat in and landed at the dock, and it was just like some fucking ancient... | ||
| Like, crazy shit that you would see back in the 1800s. | ||
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Sailorport. | |
| Yeah, Sailorport. | ||
| And then this dude was eating his carton of fucking shit. | ||
| I'm like, yo, I'm like French fries and burgers at the time. | ||
| And I'm like, yo, what the fuck are you eating? | ||
| What is that shit? | ||
| He's like, yeah, man, it's Kalaloo and Aki. | ||
| And he's like, man, you eat this, you live to be 150 taras. | ||
| I was like, really? | ||
| I said, let me check that shit out. | ||
| Took one forkful and I just was like, this is fucking disgusting. | ||
| That shit tastes like dirt, dude. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| It was collaloo. | ||
| What is collaloo? | ||
| Collaloo is a green. | ||
| It's like one of the most nutritious... | ||
| Like a collard green? | ||
| Yeah, it's like collard green. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| They have greens down there that don't really... | ||
| Grow anywhere else. | ||
| So I think it's like a combination of kale and collard greens. | ||
| And then ackee is like this fruit. | ||
| And it looks like it's yellow. | ||
| It looks like an egg almost. | ||
| But if you eat ackee when it's not ripe, you'll die. | ||
| You get poison. | ||
| It's this type of thing. | ||
| Like when the fruit opens up, it's like a red fruit. | ||
| If you eat it when it's not open, you will die. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, ackee will poison you. | ||
| And then he was eating seaweed and beans and... | ||
| Anyway, so I went up into the hills. | ||
| He took me. | ||
| Now, I don't know if you like reggae, but... | ||
| I do. | ||
| I fucking love reggae. | ||
| So do you know where Peter Tosh wanted Dreader Alive? | ||
| Do you know where that came from? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna tell you. | ||
| So, back in, I think it was 78, this cop, they hate the Rastafarians in Jamaica, by the way, because it's a big Christian. | ||
| The Christians invaded that place and just fucking turned everybody into dogmatic fucking thinking people. | ||
| What the white man does everywhere across the planet. | ||
| You gotta be my religion, fuck everybody else, this is what's up. | ||
| So they did that there. | ||
| What the rosters call the Jamaicans who don't grow knots. | ||
| They call them ball heads, man. | ||
| Like Bob Marley, crazy ball head. | ||
| So what they did with these guys... | ||
| A cop tried to kill a Rastafarian and the Rastafarian killed a cop. | ||
| So they put a bounty on every single Rastafarian wanted dead or alive. | ||
| You could kill a Rasta and drag him to the precinct and collect a reward. | ||
| So all the Rastas fled up into the hills. | ||
| And it was called the Green Bay Killings. | ||
| They just started killing all these Rastafarians. | ||
| And so this guy brought me up into the hills and I met these Rastas and the Nyabingi, the drummers and all that shit. | ||
| And the guy had the actual... | ||
| Because it was only like two, maybe three years prior to me going there in 1980. And I got to meet these cats that survived that shit. | ||
| And they had the news clippings and all this shit. | ||
| So that was like my first experience with the whole roster thing. | ||
| And then I met the Bad Brains one night. | ||
| At first, Ian McKay and all them cats came down with Teen Isles and Untouchables. | ||
| That was Henry's whole crew first. | ||
| I know Henry's been on here. | ||
| I'm pretty good friends with Henry. | ||
| He's coming out next week. | ||
| Tell him I said, what's up? | ||
| I fucking love him, man. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| He's a fucking great human being. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When I split the Navy, he let me stay at his house and I was eating his food. | ||
| And then after a week of him going to work and coming home and his food's gone, he's like, all right, John, you got to get the fuck out. | ||
| Go somewhere. | ||
| Not here. | ||
| But they played. | ||
| And then a week later... | ||
| I used to go during the middle of the day in my car in the Navy and go to happy hour. | ||
| And I'm walking in and the owner comes out. | ||
| He's like, you got to see this fucking band. | ||
| You got to see this band. | ||
| I'm like, all right, cool. | ||
| I'm going in. | ||
| He's like, no, you don't understand. | ||
| They're fucking black, man. | ||
| And they're incredible. | ||
| So I go upstairs and Bad Brains are sound checking. | ||
| And I'm just like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| And if you haven't seen the Bad Brains, I'll tell you the best video to watch. | ||
| 1982, CBGB's. | ||
| They got the whole set up there. | ||
| And if you want to have your shit blown away, just watch that. | ||
| So that's what... | ||
| I actually sold their manager acid. | ||
| I was selling acid at the time. | ||
| So their manager, I sold him acid, but I got to talk with HR, and he started telling me about this PMA shit, and I told him, yeah, man, I fucking got out of jail and went into the Navy because I caught another case. | ||
| They offered me military. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| There's them right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking amazing, dude. | ||
| Will this get us taken off YouTube, you think? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the singer. | ||
| He's a fucking maniac. | ||
| He does a backflip perfectly on the end of this one song at the movies and lands it perfectly. | ||
| That's at CB's in 82. Wow. | ||
| I wasn't there. | ||
| I was their roadie. | ||
| I was in high school. | ||
| Yeah, so I was actually living as a Hare Krishna monk at the time in Hawaii. | ||
| So how did the Hare Krishna thing? | ||
| Well, I'm going to tell you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So... | ||
| What happened was they had... | ||
| So, I talked with HR. He said, yeah, man. | ||
| It was really funny because they were all from D.C., but they talked with Patois. | ||
| I said, yeah, man. | ||
| Jogging the range, man. | ||
| We're going to run into each other again, you know. | ||
| So... | ||
| I beat someone down on my ship pretty bad and I got caught for a drug case in Norfolk. | ||
| So I knew that they was trying to persecute me and, you know, send me to fucking prison. | ||
| And I was like, really not going to have that. | ||
| So my ship pulled out and we were going to like shell back to South America. | ||
| And I had this... | ||
| I was basically under arrest because the fight... | ||
| It was a civilian case for the drugs. | ||
| I sold to an undercover cop outside of a club called Kingshead Inn in Norfolk on Hampton Boulevard. | ||
| They did punk shows. | ||
| So I sold him LSD. And he was an undercover cop. | ||
| So I got arrested for that. | ||
| And then that was pending. | ||
| Meanwhile, I go on my ship. | ||
| We go out to sea. | ||
| This one redneck kept fucking with me. | ||
| And he was like, fuck you, New York faggot. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, chill. | ||
| You don't know me. | ||
| I'm not fucking with you. | ||
| Just let it go, man. | ||
| And he just wouldn't let it go. | ||
| So I trapped him in the paint locker. | ||
| I was a Boson mate. | ||
| And I beat him with a fucking paint can in the soft tissue till he shit his pants. | ||
| Then they arrested me. | ||
| So they had me under fucking ships arrest and all this shit. | ||
| And I got this bad infection. | ||
| They had to medevac me off the ship back to Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico. | ||
| And they forgot to say that, you know, I'm supposed to be handcuffed to the fucking bed. | ||
| And then... | ||
| They cut. | ||
| They didn't send those orders because this was pre-computer. | ||
| So the paperwork got fucked up. | ||
| They gave me my ID and then they sent me back to Norfolk. | ||
| And then I was just doing all my shit. | ||
| So they just didn't know that you're supposed to be incarcerated? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They didn't know that I'm supposed to be a waiting court, probably court-martial, whatever the fuck. | ||
| And then the civilian case too. | ||
| So then I was in Nimitz Hall, which is TPU, Transient Personnel Union, waiting for my ship to come back. | ||
| And they were going to deal with it then. | ||
| So I was there for like, I don't know, like a month and a half. | ||
| And they were like, yo, your ship, the dude I was cool with, he warned me. | ||
| He goes, yo. | ||
| Your ship is fucking docking today. | ||
| And I was like, fuck. | ||
| I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. | ||
| So I just packed up a couple things. | ||
| And I got on the bus that used to go through the base and then roll out Hampton Boulevard. | ||
| As I'm fucking... | ||
| They had already pulled in. | ||
| And as I'm pulling out the gate in the seat, the fucking master at arms of my ship, the police, are right there walking across the street to fucking Nimitz Hall to get me. | ||
| And I just shrunk down in the seat. | ||
| But if they would have looked up... | ||
| That was it. | ||
| I wouldn't be here telling you this story because my life would have taken a much different trajectory. | ||
| So what happened was I went up and I hitchhiked with this band, The Undead, from New York, this punk band. | ||
| Bobby Steele was in here. | ||
| So you AWOL at the time? | ||
| Yeah, Bobby Steele was original Misfits. | ||
| So they played the 930 and they gave me a ride back to New York. | ||
| And I get out the van and right there on Avenue A, 171, was motherfucking HR in the doorway where they recorded and lived. | ||
| He's like, Rastafari! | ||
| I'm like, fuck! | ||
| And what happened was they were playing a show a couple days later, and there's a big Puerto Rican gang that was right there that didn't want them hanging out, so they went in there one night, and they killed people. | ||
| I'm not going to say the name of the fucking gang, because... | ||
| For whatever, you know, I'm not trying to out them like that, but they had the largest heroin cocaine spot in America. | ||
| The feds busted them, knocked down their building, the whole shit. | ||
| Alphabet City was out of fucking control. | ||
| So nobody, the Beastie Boys were there that night. | ||
| Nobody would fight these dudes back. | ||
| And I was on a fucking Quaalude, which is a gorilla biscuit. | ||
| You think you got crazy strength. | ||
| And I said to J.W.E., who was the engineer of their shit, I was like, yo... | ||
| Let's get these motherfuckers, man. | ||
| And he's like, dude, they kill people. | ||
| Don't fuck with them. | ||
| They will kill you. | ||
| And I was like, yo, come on, you fucking dudes, you're punk rock. | ||
| You're supposed to be fucking tough. | ||
| Let's fucking get these guys. | ||
| So they calmed me down. | ||
| But when I got outside, the dude tried to stab me. | ||
| So I blocked the knife and I hit him with an elbow and pop, pop, pop. | ||
| Knocked him down, smashed his head off the curb. | ||
| Next thing I know, four of his homies come charging at me. | ||
| Yo, you white motherfucker. | ||
| Trying to stab me. | ||
| And I used to wear a chain belt. | ||
| And you can ask Henry. | ||
| We all used to wear these chain belts with a quick release, a bike chain, to fight people. | ||
| Because in D.C. it would be the Marines would fucking... | ||
| Or the Rednecks would beat up the punk rockers. | ||
| So I got in a chain fight with these motherfuckers. | ||
| And I ended up... | ||
| So I go to run back into 171 because I lost the chain. | ||
| And one of the Beastie Boys tries to slam the door on me to keep me out on the street. | ||
| These motherfuckers want to kill me. | ||
| I pushed my way in. | ||
| I got stabbed in the shoulder and then they put out a KOS on me. | ||
| They were like we're gonna kill that motherfucker. | ||
| Nobody would hang out with me except for this one crazy Russian street fighter kid named James Contra. | ||
| That's the only dude. | ||
| So then I said I couldn't go down to Alphabet City at all. | ||
| They were waiting there with fucking guns and bats and like we're gonna kill that dude. | ||
| But because the bad brains were black they kind of Squashed it over, but I went up there to face them and they surrounded me like a fucking dude was like ready to fucking off me and Doc and Daryl, Doc's the guitar player, Daryl's the bass player, came running out. | ||
| Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, chill, chill! | ||
| And they were like... | ||
| You know, he was just, you know, standing up like, y'all came in there trying to stab everybody. | ||
| You would have done the same shit. | ||
| And the one dude's name was Crazy Eddie. | ||
| And he got, I think he got murdered now, but he did Mad Time. | ||
| And he just looked at me and it was that moment of the standoff where I didn't know what the fuck he was going to do, but he just goes... | ||
| Out of all the white motherfuckers over here, you're the only one with heart. | ||
| We ain't never gonna fuck with y'all again. | ||
| Just don't hang out outside the storefront. | ||
| Because there was gigs at 171A. That's where Bad Brains played, Beastie Boys. | ||
| And then the Bad Brains let me move in. | ||
| And then they recorded that first album, which MCA from the Bad Brains, greatest hardcore punk album of all time, the Raw cassette, the Lightning Bolt. | ||
| I was there for the whole recording. | ||
| And then they got me a job, and this is where the Harry Christian thing comes in. | ||
| I always come full circle. | ||
| So this punk band named The Dots. | ||
| Who put out the first Bad Brains single, Jimmy Quit, was in the band. | ||
| And he put out a single called, Stay Close to Me and Pay to Come. | ||
| And Vinnie worked at this health food store. | ||
| So they started giving us food and that's when I started changing over to the diet. | ||
| Because Bad Brains were like... | ||
| HR would be like, you don't eat the fuckery, you don't eat the Babylon food, you got to eat ital. | ||
| Ital is vital, low-tile can be fatal. | ||
| Talk me to the health... | ||
| What is ITAL? It means pure plant-based food, no oil, no fucking salt. | ||
| No oil? | ||
| Yeah, dude, it's the strict... | ||
| What about like avocado oil? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Coconut oil? | ||
| No, no, like if you take coconut and you fucking shred it down so fine that the oil comes out of it, that's fine, but they don't do processed oils. | ||
| That's a different thing. | ||
| When you process the oil, if you have health problems, like what they proved in forks overnight, then it becomes... | ||
| Toxic oil to the body. | ||
| And if you have any kind of heart conditions and stuff like that, you should really avoid it. | ||
| So anyway, what they did was they got me... | ||
| They were smart because they wanted me to give them free food, the bad brains. | ||
| So they got me in the health food store. | ||
| And the dude was like this hippie yogi dude hooked up with Sachin Ananda, Swami. | ||
| It was called Prana Foods. | ||
| And he's like, well... | ||
| You're going to do karma yoga when you first come in here. | ||
| In other words, you're not going to get any money. | ||
| You can eat, and it's karma yoga. | ||
| It's good for your karma. | ||
| So then I told everybody in the motherfucking neighborhood, I was like, yo, I'm working at this health food store. | ||
| Come over and get some food. | ||
| So Bad Brains would come and load up groceries. | ||
| I worked at juice bars, giving out fucking sandwiches to the entire neighborhood. | ||
| And the dude was sitting there watching me. | ||
| And after the end of the day, he goes, excuse me, dude. | ||
| Did any of those people pay for that food? | ||
| I go, nah, man, that's that karma yoga shit you were talking to me about. | ||
| He's like, you're on salary as of tomorrow. | ||
| Do not give away any more food. | ||
| So then I was like, I worked there for a little while, and Vinny took me to the Hare Krishna temple on 55th Street. | ||
| So I kept trying to defeat this dude philosophically. | ||
| I was like, yo, but... | ||
| And he knew the whole philosophy of the Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita is where all the yoga... | ||
| All the Yoga Sutras and all of that comes out of the Bhagavad Gita. | ||
| And Prabhupada put out the Bhagavad Gita as it is, which was the original Bhagavad Gita from India. | ||
| And I kept trying to defeat it. | ||
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Do you read it? | |
| Do you read the Bhagavad Gita? | ||
| All the time, every day. | ||
| I read Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam. | ||
| What do you think Soma is? | ||
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| Soma. | ||
| What's the Soma? | ||
| Soma Ras. | ||
| Soma Ras, that is a drink that they drink on the heavenly planets. | ||
| It's a beverage on the heavenly planets that they get intoxicated from. | ||
| Yeah, the big question is like what's in it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No one knows. | ||
| There's elements... | ||
| You know, when people say, you think there's life on other planets? | ||
| I'm like, what are you, a fucking Mama Luke? | ||
| Of course there's life on other planets. | ||
| You think you're the only fucking life in the universe? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Well, that's one of the things in the Bhagavad Gita is flying crafts and Soma is one of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Soma, it's some sort of a psychedelic concoction, but nobody knows exactly what it is. | ||
| They think it might be a combination of several things. | ||
| They think for sure psilocybin's in it, but they think it might also be hashish, that hashish might be in it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's elements... | ||
| In the upper planetary system, Brahma, Loka, and all these different planets in the solar system. | ||
| The Vedic astrology is much different than the Western astrology. | ||
| So they talk about planets way above Earth. | ||
| When they're teaching you the Bhagavad Gita, what do they describe Soma as? | ||
| They called it Soma Ras, and that was a beverage that's drunk in the heavenly planets. | ||
| It's not available on the Earth planet. | ||
| The demigods drink Soma Ras, demigods on other planets. | ||
| That's the only time people drink it? | ||
| I mean, I thought it was part of a ritualistic... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you have Shiva, the Shivites smoke the ganja and stuff like that, and I don't know, you know, they put the ashes of the crematorium on their bodies and stuff like that, but they, you know, the thing about, there's four principles in Hare Krishna, when you live as a Brahmachari monk, which I did, and it's no intoxication at all. | ||
| No eating of meat, fish, eggs, none of that. | ||
| No gambling and no illicit sex. | ||
| So I was actually a 100% brahmachari celibate monk. | ||
| For how long? | ||
| For two years. | ||
| And I trained martial arts in Hawaii in the hills with this one black dude who was fucking fierce. | ||
| And he was a brahmachari too. | ||
| So we would train... | ||
| And completely celibate. | ||
| I was getting up 2 o'clock every single day in the morning. | ||
| I was in bed by 8 and training and working and just, you know, trying to heal my soul. | ||
| But that came because when I first was going to the temple, I wrote, I would write down my questions. | ||
| I know I'm gonna get these motherfuckers tomorrow. | ||
| Cause I was reading Gorgiev, Krishnamurti, Ram Dass. | ||
| Like I studied, I saw all those guys. | ||
| I went to see Krishnamurti speak and meditate. | ||
| I was just eating it up. | ||
| Like once that light came on, Metaphysically, for the meditation and the yoga and everything, I just went full fucking bore into it. | ||
| So it started from the health food store? | ||
| Yeah, because I worked... | ||
| So the health food store got you in there? | ||
| Vinnie Signorelli, who's now the drummer for The Unsane, he still plays drums, he was in The Dots, he was in Turbo Hydramatics, a bunch of bands in New York, and he just started hitting me with questions. | ||
| What do you think this is? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I was like, I don't know, man. | ||
| And then after giving me this book, he gave me this book called The Science of Self-Realization, and I read it, and I was like, dude, this yoga master, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, I was like, I gotta find out, where is this guy? | ||
| And he said, oh, he left the planet in 77, but you could go to the temple and see the whole process. | ||
| I was like, yo, I wanna go. | ||
| And I went, and they had this ceremony, and it's called Greeting of the Deities, and then the song that gets played, George Harrison, Plays bass on it. | ||
| And I was like, yeah, it was from the Brahma Samhita. | ||
| And I was... | ||
| I just was attracted to it. | ||
| Everything I'd known in my life was pain and violence and just fucking crazy. | ||
| I mean, you know... | ||
| So it was a pathway to some sort of an escape from the trappings of your past. | ||
| It was a pathway to enlightenment. | ||
| It was a pathway to peace. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Peace. | ||
| But... | ||
| Some of the most fierce warriors and what I loved about Bhagavad Gita is spoken on a battlefield between Krishna and Arjuna. | ||
| Arjuna was a Chacharya. | ||
| This line, this Sampradaya comes from the warrior class. | ||
| And if you read any books on martial arts, they're going to tell you that martial arts originated in India. | ||
| The original martial arts school were all in India and at one point Sankacharya chased all the Buddhists out of India and they fled across the Himalayas into China. | ||
| So this is actual history and you can see where the martial arts spread out across the planet. | ||
| You know, a lot of it, a lot of things that are around today originated in India. | ||
| So to me, that really, I was always in, you know, I was a street fighter. | ||
| I messed around even, you know, with some going to martial arts schools, always on the outskirts though. | ||
| I even went and trained with Ron Van Cleef when he had his school in New York. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| Yeah, but he would always be training police forces, and I was the only white dude in the class, and it was all blacks and Puerto Ricans, and when it came time to spar, they beat the shit out of me. | ||
| I was getting fucking wrecked by the black belts. | ||
| There was no light sparring back then. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nobody sparred light back then. | ||
| Yo, there was schools. | ||
| Victor Vega, Ron Van Cleef, Ron Taganashi, this dude, Doc. | ||
| This other dude named Rodan who ran the school, University of Streets. | ||
| They would run from into the dojo like 20 dudes and just all out fucking brawl. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like even Brian Callen, his teacher and all these guys, they trained under Master Choi and he encouraged you to fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You are training to fight. | ||
| It was very common back then. | ||
| That was a big part of it because you had to develop people that could actually perform in competition. | ||
| And one of the best ways to do that was to have challenge matches. | ||
| So like when you're talking about smokers, they used to allow that in LA up until real recently. | ||
| In the last 10 years or so, they banned smokers. | ||
| But you used to be able to get your experience in actual fights in a smoker. | ||
| And that was a little bit more prepared than the dojo storming days. | ||
| But the dojo storming days, that's how a lot of people got good. | ||
| You have real fights. | ||
| You would go in there, some guy would come from another school, and you knew you were going to hit each other as hard as you could. | ||
| It wasn't really sparring. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you a lot of that spun into gang bonds, too, because a lot of the people that were the martial arts teachers, this one dude, JR, he's famous. | ||
| He was in the New York Times. | ||
| He was one of the biggest heroin traffickers on the Lower East Side. | ||
| He was one of the first guys to get busted under the RICO stature. | ||
| He did the full 25, and he trained all of the dudes that sold for him, and all his street soldiers were all trained in martial arts. | ||
| So a lot of these guys were doing shady shit. | ||
| Behind the scenes, because that's what Alphabet City and the Lower East Side, and that's what New York was about. | ||
| I'm actually good friends with Tymok. | ||
| Oh, no shit. | ||
| Yeah, Tymok. | ||
| From The Last Dragon? | ||
| Tymok's father is a Hare Krishna. | ||
| His name is Cosmo. | ||
| I met him in L.A. like fucking 20 years ago. | ||
| He came to a show. | ||
| I was like, that's The Last Dragon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, he... | ||
| I won't... | ||
| Say names, but he outed somebody that tried to do some shit to him, and they blackballed him in Hollywood, and the guy said, you're never going to make another motherfucking movie, and he hasn't. | ||
| He got fucking, dude. | ||
| You know that happened to Hulk Hogan? | ||
| Somebody tried to fuck Hulk Hogan. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| You've been around Hulk Hogan? | ||
| He's a giant human being. | ||
| Some guy was like, I'm going to suck your dick, and he's like, no, brother! | ||
| Like, for real. | ||
| Step up to the Slim Timber. | ||
| This is like this Terry Crews thing. | ||
| A lot of people have made fun of Terry Crews because that is this big stud of an athlete. | ||
| Who cares who grabs your dick? | ||
| Just swat that guy in the head. | ||
| But he's saying, no, this is a systemic problem when you have people that are in power and they control your destiny. | ||
| And there's a lot of that. | ||
| Fuck it, they'll ruin you, man. | ||
| And they did a lot of people. | ||
| Listen, like, the whole, like... | ||
| The whole Me Too shit. | ||
| First of all, my mother was raped twice. | ||
| So if some dude is pushing his weight around on a female, I think that shit's fucked up. | ||
| And then they're going to turn around and fucking fuck these people. | ||
| I say fucking get them the fuck out of there. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you a story because Julia Phillips and Michael Phillips, they fucking produced one of my favorite movies of all time, which was Taxi Driver. | ||
| And Close Encounters. | ||
| They did all those movies. | ||
| She wrote a book called You'll Never Do Lunch In This Town Again in the 80s. | ||
| She had the Cro-Mags come and play in a movie at the Ritz. | ||
| They flew us off the Motorhead tour, picked us up in limos. | ||
| She wanted the shit to be lip sunk. | ||
| I said, nah, if you want the Cro-Mags, it's a fucking real show and we're going to fucking lay it down. | ||
| We had like a thousand of our fans there. | ||
| Ankle tape, everything. | ||
| Fucking dude, just crazy. | ||
| Crazy shit and two people broke their necks during the shooting so the movie is called it's called the beat Yeah, but the thing was she was one of the first people to put out and expose these fucking scumbags for doing that shit To people in Hollywood and exposed a lot of that in a book You'll never do lunch in this town again and when the book came out she was on the set for interview with a vampire and And they came and pulled her off the set, and she was fucking blackballed from fucking Hollywood. | ||
| She never made any more fucking movies. | ||
| This is all pre-internet. | ||
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This is what this was. | |
| Yeah, this is pre-internet. | ||
| They could get away with things like that back then. | ||
| Yeah, and she just fucking put up the middle finger to all of them, like, fuck you. | ||
| She passed away of cancer. | ||
| But she was like a real fucking punk rocker, man. | ||
| She fucking took on the system. | ||
| The Boys Club in Hollywood... | ||
| Even the shit, I don't know how legit the Corey Feldman stuff is. | ||
| I know him and whatever, but he's saying... | ||
| There's a problem that you don't... | ||
| Yeah, it's like one of those things where I don't know what to do here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's some shenanigans. | ||
| But I know that it's... | ||
| Something happened. | ||
| Yeah, I know it goes on. | ||
| Something happened. | ||
| And it's not just him. | ||
| I mean, the list is a mile long, and for everybody that comes forth, there's a million people that are sitting back going, I don't want to say anything because I don't want to take that shame on him. | ||
| Well, that's what happened with me. | ||
| It was the same thing. | ||
| You have this rep and whatever the fuck, but that's all false ego, even all of that stuff. | ||
| And then the person that I was with at the time said, this story is going to help a lot of people. | ||
| By you coming forward and saying what happened to you and how you're dealing with it now. | ||
| I got this new book, The PMA Effect, coming out. | ||
| The whole shit is about healing people. | ||
| I've helped thousands of people kick drugs, kick suicidal thoughts. | ||
| And, you know, it's not that I'm like, I'm turning him into a vegan. | ||
| It's like, dude, I'm gonna show you the system that worked for me. | ||
| That's all I can do is tell you, I'm like the fucking mailman, you know? | ||
| I'm just delivering the fucking mail to you. | ||
| I didn't come up with it, but I'm showing you the yoga, the plant-based diet, the meditation, the training, constant fucking training. | ||
| Well, through all the things you're doing, you're committed, and you're disciplined, and that's attractive to people, right? | ||
| People look for people that are doing things that they wish they were doing. | ||
| So they see someone, I mean, that's the whole cult of personality, right? | ||
| They see you, they see you, you got this powerful personality, and you're positive, you're doing things, and people gravitate to that, and they want to be a part of that. | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| That's what happens with people. | ||
| But the first thing that I—and I said it because Vice did a whole 18-minute special on me. | ||
| If you just Google fucking vegan Iron Man, this shit comes up. | ||
| They did an 18-minute documentary. | ||
| And one of the things I said first off is don't say you can't do it. | ||
| You could do any fucking thing you apply yourself to. | ||
| You just haven't tried. | ||
| You could do what I'm doing. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you, I go to races, these Ironmans all over the fucking world, and these guys show me pictures. | ||
| One guy was fucking... | ||
| He lost 100 fucking pounds, dude. | ||
| He was so depressed. | ||
| He was on meds for depression. | ||
| So everything that I'm doing is coming out of service. | ||
| It's service to help people. | ||
| I come at them right from the same fucking platform. | ||
| And even the Vedas, what does it say? | ||
| You should think of yourself lower than a straw in the street, more tolerant than a tree, always ready to offer respects to others. | ||
| In that state of mind, one can constantly chant the holy names of Hare Krishna. | ||
| So that's the philosophy. | ||
| So where is the false ego in thinking, I'm better than you because I eat a motherfucking vegetable and you eat a fucking piece of meat or whatever? | ||
| It's not about that. | ||
| It's about trying to help people and have compassion to people. | ||
| And that's something that's really getting lost... | ||
| In this world is compassion. | ||
| Everybody wants to kick people when they're down. | ||
| And I just don't understand where this fucking sickness came from. | ||
| And I think a lot of it has to do with reality TV and this whole microwave, insta-fame fucking culture that exists now. | ||
| It's like what you said. | ||
| They think that if they put down somebody, they're going to gain power from it. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| I don't come from that. | ||
| I come from, like, yo, man, let's help one another to make this world a better place. | ||
| How are we going to save the oceans? | ||
| How are we going to save, you know, and, you know, my thing is this. | ||
| Look, they just said that the fucking commercial meat and dairy industries are now the most toxic. | ||
| They're the most toxic companies on the fucking planet. | ||
| They just surpass fossil fuel with the destruction they're doing to the planet. | ||
| So I'm like... | ||
| Eat a little less meat. | ||
| Where's this coming from? | ||
| It was just all on, where did I read it? | ||
| It was on one of the main sites. | ||
| So is this from methane gas? | ||
| Is it from runoff? | ||
| Fossil fuels, runoff. | ||
| Look, here's the thing. | ||
| So, before that Gulf oil spill ever happened, there was a fucking dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico the size of New Jersey. | ||
| Why? | ||
| All the fucking runoff of the CAFOs and the farms with the fucking toxic pesticides, all the shit that these guys are spraying, Roundup and everything else, and the nitrogen that's in the fucking shit when these lagoons that have 100,000 fucking gallons of pig shit... | ||
| It all was draining into the Mississippi and then draining into the Gulf. | ||
| So if you look at what's going on in North Carolina right now, because I was just there, motherfuckers can't even swim in the fucking rivers anymore. | ||
| And it's happening in Europe too. | ||
| They just had to cancel the swim on... | ||
| The Iron Man in Hamburg because of the green allergy and all the shit that's happening now because of all the runoff that's happening with the farms and everything. | ||
| We're making this planet a fucking toxic wasteland. | ||
| Well, what we've done with farms and it's gotten... | ||
| We develop cities. | ||
| We have giant groups of people that aren't growing anything. | ||
| And then we've given people incentive to make as much profit as possible. | ||
| And when they're trying to make as much profit as possible without ethics or morals in consideration or the impact on the environment, they set off a process in motion that we are many, many decades into right now. | ||
| So to try to correct it now, we're just seeing the effects. | ||
| And then on top of that, there's all these ag-gag laws. | ||
| And the ag-gag I'm not participating in this. | ||
| I have to figure out what I'm going to do. | ||
| I'm either going to become a vegetarian or I'm going to become a hunter. | ||
| I decided to become a hunter and that's how I get my meat. | ||
| But when you see those videos, those are the videos that expose people to the realities and the horrors of factory farming. | ||
| And those are illegal in most places. | ||
| Yeah, you go to prison now. | ||
| You go to prison for showing horrible, immoral acts that are done to these animals and the way they're treated and the way they're contained. | ||
| We were talking yesterday about this video of a pig farm. | ||
| There's this pig farm where these pigs are smashed into this place where they can't move at all. | ||
| They're all in these cages. | ||
| Crates. | ||
| From where they shit and piss, and there's a giant lake outside of pig shit and pig piss. | ||
| And no one who lives anywhere near that can avoid that smell. | ||
| You drive anywhere near that area, it's a horrific, toxic smell. | ||
| So, it's already gotten to this almost, like, incorrectable position. | ||
| Like, that business is a toxic business. | ||
| But it's not a regular, like a Joel Salatin farm. | ||
| You know who that guy is? | ||
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| You ever heard of him? | ||
| He runs this farm called Polyface Farms, and what he does is he has all these animals live like normal animals. | ||
| Like the pigs, they're not in these cages. | ||
| He has them roam free, and they set up these enormous portable fences. | ||
| So they take the pigs, they roam in this one area like pigs naturally do, and then they move the fence to a different area, and they transport, you know, move the pigs over with it. | ||
| So the pigs are never contained. | ||
| The chickens run free, and then they go back into the chicken house at night. | ||
| And then they try not to have monocrops. | ||
| Like, when you have monocrops, A thousand acres of soybeans. | ||
| That shit ain't normal. | ||
| That's not how plants are supposed to be. | ||
| And then you have to throw pesticides on them. | ||
| And then when you're rolling them up, you have to grind everything up with these gigantic machines and everything gets caught up in there. | ||
| Mice and rabbits and everything that might be in the neighborhood while these machines are rolling over. | ||
| All of that is unnatural. | ||
| And it's not how human beings are supposed to grow food. | ||
| It's not how food is supposed to be... | ||
| It's not how these plants or animals are supposed to be interacting with the environment. | ||
| But what we're doing with these things is making incredible amounts of profit. | ||
| And these people are addicted to this profit. | ||
| These corporations are addicted to this profit. | ||
| They have this constant growth mentality where every year, every quarter has to have more. | ||
| It's a never-ending growth cycle. | ||
| The laws. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| Well, they have massive amounts of money, so they bribe politicians, and they use all of these lobbyists, and what they do is they get these laws passed where it's illegal to film them doing immoral shit. | ||
| And so then you don't see this. | ||
| You just go to the store and you buy a cheeseburger. | ||
| You go to Jack in the Box. | ||
| You go wherever you go and you buy these things. | ||
| You get corn. | ||
| Or you get corn syrup in your soda. | ||
| You don't think twice about what has to happen for that corn to become syrup and how much environmental damage has to take place. | ||
| The world we're living in right now is just waking up to what has been in motion for many, many decades. | ||
| I think what's really important, though, is that we're honest about health and that we're honest about the consequences of our actions in terms of our purchasing power, what we're doing with food. | ||
| We've got to be honest about all of it. | ||
| And one of the problems that happens with hunters or carnivores or even vegans or vegetarians is people only want to look at things that support Right. | ||
| And with vegans, there's a lot of people out there that only want to look at things that support vegan positions in terms of health. | ||
| And this becomes a real problem because they start using studies that are very shaky, they start adding things to documentaries that aren't necessarily true or proven, and it becomes propaganda. | ||
| And it becomes propaganda both ways. | ||
| I see it with this carnivore diet now. | ||
| There's a lot of people with this carnivore diet that are like, this is the only way to go. | ||
| You know, just eat all meat. | ||
| And I'm like, man, I don't know about all that. | ||
| I don't see any blood work. | ||
| I see blood work only... | ||
| I talked to Sean... | ||
| What is his last name? | ||
| Sean the doctor. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| The fuck? | ||
| He's the main carnivore guy. | ||
| How can I not remember his name? | ||
| What is... | ||
| How is that slipping my... | ||
| Sean Baker. | ||
| He released his blood work. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His blood work's not good. | ||
| Testosterone's low. | ||
| There's all sorts of issues. | ||
| And I just want to say, who are the... | ||
| Let's just look at it this way. | ||
| Who... | ||
| Who are the hospitals filled with that are having procedures for bypass? | ||
| Who are the procedures being done for people removing their limbs for diabetes? | ||
| It's the people that are eating this toxic diet that Americans, the standard American diet and what people have become accustomed to eating, rolling up and even these carnivore people. | ||
| Let's just take that for instance. | ||
| If you do all meat, sure, your body... | ||
| That motherfucker might have been on a Dorito diet. | ||
| We don't know what the fuck he was eating prior to that. | ||
| So then you put... | ||
| The body's a perfect machine. | ||
| So at the beginning of when you're doing all meat, the body's becoming accustomed to that. | ||
| But you know, the analogy that I use is that's like getting off heroin and getting on methadone because the methadone... | ||
| Yo, I kicked dope, but I'm on fucking meth now. | ||
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| Because the methadone down the road is going to take even a longer toll. | ||
| And I've seen people that are doing methadone for 20-30 years, and that's why I love the analogy, because the long-term studies of those diets do not exist right now. | ||
| No, there's no long-term studies for the carnivores. | ||
| But if you look at the blue zones around the planet of the people who were the most centurions and the people that lived the longest, they have three things in common, okay? | ||
| And there's blue zones in Japan, Costa Rica, Greece, Iran, United States. | ||
| Well, the top five with the most. | ||
| And then California, and it's the Adventists, the seven-day Adventists. | ||
| So the three things that they have most in common with the people that live the longest, number one, they have a meditation spiritual practice. | ||
| They do something every day for PMA, for positive mental attitude. | ||
| Whatever their higher power is, they do that every day. | ||
| Number two, they move their bodies. | ||
| They're working, they work in the farm, they're exercising. | ||
| Number three, they eat primarily a plant-based diet. | ||
| They may have a piece of fish in Japan or whatever, or a piece of meat once in a while, but primarily The Adventist study was actually the best one because it was all from different people with different ethnic backgrounds. | ||
| And the one thing that they had in common, the seven-day Adventists don't eat meat. | ||
| And that's my point with the whole thing. | ||
| You know, when it comes down to diet, I just see what worked for me, and I try to relay that to people, and not be like, my way's the only way, and this and that, because people are doing other things in their way. | ||
| There's raw foodists, there's all these different people, and the problem is, with the false ego and the human being, everybody wants to think That the glass is full, don't try to tell me shit, I know it all. | ||
| Here's an issue with centurions. | ||
| Centurions, how do you say it? | ||
| Centurions. | ||
| Centenarians? | ||
| Centenarians. | ||
| I think it's centenarians, yeah. | ||
| People that live to be 100 years, there's one thing we have to take into consideration. | ||
| You're talking about people that lived already to be 100 years. | ||
| So when they were 50, it was 50 years ago. | ||
| We're talking about 1967. Nobody knew shit about diet back then. | ||
| This is a fact. | ||
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| Okay, so the people that did live that long and they were living this, it's almost an accident in some ways or inconsequential. | ||
| Like what is going on today with people's diet and how long will people live today? | ||
| There's far more information in terms of like nutrition and what you should do and shouldn't do for your body. | ||
| So what I'm concerned with is like what optimizes people today? | ||
| I want to see blood work. | ||
| I want to see what is going on with your blood lipids. | ||
| What is going on with your nutrient levels? | ||
| What is going on with that? | ||
| And in that case, we have just a few studies from a few people or a few tests from a few people that have done this carnivore diet. | ||
| We have some people that have done the vegan diet and have had real hard problems with that diet. | ||
| Yeah, but let me just say one thing, because to throw the word vegan on something, that does not make it a healthy diet. | ||
| I know vegans that are fucking 100 pounds overweight, they eat nothing but fried tofu. | ||
| Vegan pizza. | ||
| If you say an organic, whole food, plant-based diet, that's what I roll with. | ||
| I don't fucking say I... A good point. | ||
| A vegan diet could mean anything, but when you say whole food, foods in their original source, organic, no pesticides, whole food, plant-based diet, that's what I roll with. | ||
| So that's why I don't go around... | ||
| Nutrient dense. | ||
| Mineral dense. | ||
| And this is one of the things that's important with people that live a long time. | ||
| One of the things that you get from a lot of plants, especially like rich, green, leafy plants, you get a lot of minerals. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And more importantly, if these things are raised in an organic environment, you're getting soil that's not depleted. | ||
| And this is a big problem with monocrops. | ||
| Did you see the article that just came out today that 40 years ago an orange was 10 times more nutritious? | ||
| I think it was... | ||
| I think it might have been CNN online or something. | ||
| They posted an article that said the fruits and vegetables from 40 years ago were 10 times more nutritious than the way they're being grown today because, like you said, rows and rows and rows. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| How do they extract the nutrients properly from the soil? | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| Yeah, they don't. | ||
| Well, you know, they have to actually add nutrients to the soil. | ||
| Most of the time they're just adding nitrogen and a few other different minerals. | ||
| But there's mineral depletion. | ||
| Or pig shit. | ||
| Like what they do is to get... | ||
| How do they get rid of that pig shit? | ||
| They're spraying it on the fucking crops. | ||
| And, you know... | ||
| Well, you're supposed to rotate crops. | ||
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Right. | |
| Crop rotation, what you plant next to each other. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Compost. | ||
| I'm not a farmer, composting, but I have a friend that is an organic farmer, and his name is Keith, and he farms up in New Hampshire, and he knows all about crop rotation. | ||
| Keith Leon Forte. | ||
| If you have a small farm, you can do it. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| He Yeah, it's a small farm. | ||
| Small farms are legit. | ||
| You can have a small farm and be in symbiosis. | ||
| You could be in harmony with the land. | ||
| But man, you're growing fucking a thousand acres of corn for cattle feed. | ||
| You might as well be making oil. | ||
| You're doing something that's kind of crazy to that environment. | ||
| It's not natural. | ||
| And listen, you know, I saw Ted Nugent play with fucking ACDC and Black Sabbath in 76 at Madison Square Garden. | ||
| I went to all them shows. | ||
| But, you know, when he came on and the shit that he was talking, I was just like, the fucking GMO crops... | ||
| 80% of the GMO crop is being fed to animals for fucking slaughter. | ||
| What he called the stupid vegans are not the ones that are eating that shit. | ||
| Most of the crops that are genetically modified because you have these corporations, McDonald's, every one of these corporations, they want every fucking piece of meat to taste the same. | ||
| They want every fucking french fried potato to be the same. | ||
| So the only way they can control it... | ||
| Is the control of the genetic markers. | ||
| So that's why they're using a majority of the genetically modified grains. | ||
| And Monsanto, you know, who just got bought out by Bayer, and they're changing the name because Monsanto has such a big rep. | ||
| If you don't know it, Bayer just bought them. | ||
| Now, do you know the history of Bayer? | ||
| Pharmaceutical company. | ||
| No, but IG Farben. | ||
| No, prior to that. | ||
| They made the Zyklon gas that went into the Nazi death chambers. | ||
| Well, you know what's funny? | ||
| That Zyklon gas was created by Fritz Haber. | ||
| Fritz Haber is also the guy who created the process of extracting nitrogen from the air. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So he's the guy. | ||
| The reason why we can grow the kind of crops that we have today is because of Fritz Haber. | ||
| They say that 50% of the nitrogen in most people's DNA comes from the Haber method. | ||
| He also created Zyklon A. Zyklon A Zyklon B gas was the Nazis. | ||
| Well, he created Zyklon A and they added this smell to it so that you could smell this toxic gas so you would know it when it was coming so you can get out of the way. | ||
| The Nazis switched it to Zyklon B. Fritz Haber was actually a Jew and they took his invention and cut out the smell portion of it so that they could gas Jews with it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's dark shit. | ||
| See, I said Joe's a smart motherfucker. | ||
| I'm learning some shit here today. | ||
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All right. | |
| It's dark shit. | ||
| The Haber method saved a lot of people and killed a lot of people. | ||
| They wanted to try that guy for crimes against humanity while he was winning the Nobel Prize for science at the same time. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| He was one of the first people that implemented a gassing program where they used it to gas the Allied troops in World War I. That was Haber. | ||
| Haber was a big part of that. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy shit. | ||
| So that is how we get nitrogen. | ||
| We get nitrogen from the Haber method when they're pouring nitrogen into the soil so they can grow plants. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| When you say genetically modified, too, a big part of that is we want to think about labs and science and all this jazz. | ||
| Almost everything we eat is genetically modified, including all of our grains, like especially all of our fruits and vegetables. | ||
| What we were saying about tomatoes or orange being different than it was 10 years ago. | ||
| Fucking everything's different, man. | ||
| Because they want these things to be durable so they can throw them in a bus, or a truck rather, and travel across the country and sell them somewhere else. | ||
| Well, here's the thing, and I know what they do. | ||
| They take the DNA of a flounder and inject it in a tomato so it can resist the fraud. | ||
| How the fuck do they do that? | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| That's real. | ||
| So if you eat a tomato, does it have flounder in it? | ||
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| Now vegans, if you're eating GMO shit, maybe you're not eating vegan food. | ||
| You could be eating a fish tomato. | ||
| Well, one thing is if you eat plants, plants absorb, like they've found salmon DNA in some plants because plants absorb the fish that people use for fertilizer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, so you're getting some of that animal. | ||
| But it's a natural cycle that you're getting it through. | ||
| I mean, animals eat animals. | ||
| Plants eat animals. | ||
| Animals even eat plants. | ||
| I mean, there's fucking crazy plants in South America. | ||
| It looks like a vase. | ||
| And these rats, they get attracted to this sweet smell around the edges, and it's slick. | ||
| And they fall into the hole, and the plant closes in on them and swallows them and eats them. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, the other thing is this. | ||
| You have chemical companies making your food. | ||
| Their job is not to feed the world. | ||
| Their job is not to keep you healthy. | ||
| Their job is to sell fucking pesticides. | ||
| Let's be fucking straight up about it. | ||
| So, yeah, they created... | ||
| What was the other cross genetic... | ||
| There's a... | ||
| There's a vegetable, I think it was, was it cauliflower or broccoli? | ||
| They mixed two things and came out with... | ||
| It's a different process, what they're doing now. | ||
| And really what they do, when they can take Roundup and pesticides and put it in the fucking seed, is what they're doing now. | ||
| So the plant from the growth cycle is resistant to these bugs. | ||
| And all the people that are having the gut issues, I don't know if you listen, you know, I know you had Rich Roll on twice. | ||
| He's my fucker boy. | ||
| He's a homie. | ||
| He's a great dude. | ||
| Dude, he's fucking, everyone asks me like, what's that motherfucker life in real, what's he like in real life? | ||
| I'm like, that's the most genuine fucking dude, you know, you ever have anything going on. | ||
| He just wrote the forward to my new book, The PMA Effect. | ||
| I mean, he's such a fucking, he's a solid cat. | ||
| Very solid. | ||
| But, uh, where was I going with that? | ||
| You took me down to fucking- Plants, glyphosate. | ||
| Yeah, so he just had Dr. Zach Bush come on. | ||
| Who's a doctor? | ||
| This is clinical research. | ||
| This is not speculation. | ||
| This is not fucking vegan propaganda. | ||
| This is fucking science. | ||
| And he proved that glyphosate and what's happening now with the gut health of it. | ||
| Gut health is such a huge issue. | ||
| Everything, the bad fucking disease, it starts in the gut. | ||
| And the glyphosate is eating through the stomach wall and causing leaky gut and all these other physical diseases from happening. | ||
| Now, the other thing is you have to realize what these pesticides are. | ||
| They're neurotoxins. | ||
| And then the ones that they're putting inside the seed, when the bug eats the leaf, it fucking dies. | ||
| So you're eating these fruits and vegetables that are completely fucking toxic. | ||
| Well, here's what happens. | ||
| When they created it, one of the things, one of the reasons why they were able to implement it, they said it doesn't kill people, it kills plants and it kills bacteria. | ||
| So everybody's like, oh, fine. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| It only kills plants and bacteria. | ||
| That's totally safe. | ||
| No, your body is filled with bacteria. | ||
| Good bacteria. | ||
| Your gut has more E. coli than there's ever been a human being on the planet ever. | ||
| There's more E. coli in your stomach than any humans that have ever lived. | ||
| More numbers. | ||
| And you need them. | ||
| You need the bacteria. | ||
| This gut flora gets destroyed by glyphosate. | ||
| It gets destroyed by Roundup. | ||
| That's, I mean, that podcast that he did, that episode with Dr. Zach Bush, it's fucking unbelievable. | ||
| And I'm surprised, like, you know... | ||
| Motherfuckers didn't try to take that dude out at this point. | ||
| Well, they're making so much money and people aren't listening and there's so much signal. | ||
| There's so many noises going on. | ||
| And they use the word that everyone loves to use, the two words, conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good one. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Once you can prove something and there's data and evidence to back it up, it's no longer a theory, it's a fucking fact. | ||
| Well, it's not even a conspiracy. | ||
| It's just reality. | ||
| And by the way, when they implemented it, they probably did think that they could get away with it. | ||
| They think it would have been fine. | ||
| They really probably didn't know as much as we know today about gut biome. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's all new shit. | ||
| That's all within the last couple of decades. | ||
| Do you do probiotics? | ||
| Yeah, a lot of probiotics. | ||
| How about prebiotics? | ||
| Yeah, kimchi is fucking amazing. | ||
| Yeah, I drink a lot of kombucha, eat a lot of kimchi. | ||
| That's where I get it from primarily. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I mean gut biome is gigantic you know to the point where people make memes joking around about me saying gut biome because I say it so much. | ||
| And you know the other reason that I was I didn't know where this whole conversation would go because I have respect for you as a martial artist like I said I know Brian since the 80s and you know he always talked about you but Rich Roll wrote you and said that I was up at his house and heard that I was coming on a podcast and And you responded to him in a text message and said, yeah, it's so fucking toxic what's going on. | ||
| Like, I just want to sit down with him. | ||
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| It's another form of identity politics. | ||
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| You know, and people, look, there's a lot of people that I'm friends with that have all sorts of, they agree with things that I don't agree with. | ||
| They have ideas that I don't agree with. | ||
| I mean, you're allowed to have varying opinions. | ||
| That's what human beings are all about. | ||
| We're supposed to be able to communicate our ideas, but you're not my enemy if you eat plants. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the problem is, I eat plants too. | ||
| I eat a shitload of them. | ||
| Like, this idea that, you know, that vegans and meat eaters are supposed to be enemies. | ||
| I mean, I hang out... | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Listen, man, I'm going to tell you straight up. | ||
| I hang out with dudes that fucking eat McDonald's. | ||
| Like, I have friends... | ||
| Like I said, I'm not the fly looking for the shit. | ||
| I try to look to the positivity of every human being and some of them eat meat. | ||
| My brother eats meat. | ||
| I'm supposed to hate my brother because my brother eats fucking meat. | ||
| You know, it's just like... | ||
| Like you said, it's identity politics and I don't roll with that because in my line of work and what I'm doing, which is getting people out of some really dark fucking shit in their lives, like this documentary I'm doing now called 30 to Life... | ||
| The shit that these fucking inmates have been through and the you know I met one guy he did 50 fucking years man and he's 90 years old and his story is he's in Amity Foundation and his story is out now he's in this he just got paroled after 50 years I got a picture of him in my fucking phone and listen to his story before you judge a motherfucker because they got locked up and He served in World War II in the army. | ||
| He served in Korea in the army. | ||
| He had his friends fucking blown up in front of him. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| He's seen shit we can't even imagine in two wars. | ||
| Korea. | ||
| You know what them motherfuckers went through over there with the cold and... | ||
| Fucking they couldn't even bury the bodies, bro. | ||
| They had to fucking stack them with... | ||
| Just insane. | ||
| And he came back and went onto the streets with PTSD. They didn't even know what the fuck PTSD was back then when he was going through it. | ||
| And some shit happened, which I did not... | ||
| He got double life, so obviously something really bad happened, and I don't know the circumstances, but he's 90 fucking years old right now, and he survived the riots in Folsom. | ||
| He survived insane fucking shit. | ||
| And I'm like, yo... | ||
| And he's out now? | ||
| He's out now. | ||
| There's a fucking picture of him. | ||
| Show me the picture. | ||
| What is it like when you're out after fucking 50 years in prison? | ||
| Dude, and he's the most humble... | ||
| Genuine fucking dude. | ||
| All of these guys. | ||
| We're training to do a 5k and Rich Roll is leading the run. | ||
| And I just got Nike to fucking give them all Air Pegasus new fucking sneakers. | ||
| These guys are in fucking tears, man. | ||
| Nobody gave a fuck. | ||
| When we first went in there and met these brothers, one of the biggest, toughest, scariest motherfuckers broke down in fucking tears and was like, yo, nobody gave a fuck about me, man. | ||
| The fact that you guys are coming in here and doing this for us, you don't know how much this means to me. | ||
| And, I mean, he had to leave the room. | ||
| He was crying. | ||
| Here, I'm going to show you the picture of this cat. | ||
| I mean, that's why I do. | ||
| Here, this is him right here. | ||
| Read that text. | ||
| Wow. - Wow. | ||
| Wow, look at him there, man. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And he's trying to hit on all the female camera girls and shit. | ||
| Like, he's a fucking Papi Chulo, I nicknamed him. | ||
| Oh, I lost it. | ||
| Oh, you did? | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| It just disappeared on me. | ||
| Yeah, right here. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, he served in both wars, honorably, PTSD, and I think, you know, he said people fucked with him on the streets. | ||
| So what is he doing with his life now? | ||
| He's in this program, so they get paroled to this program called Amity Foundation, and they serve out their sentence and try to reintegrate them. | ||
| So what I did was... | ||
| When I pitched it, and it's Kip who did what? | ||
| The Health and Cowspiracy and whatever. | ||
| And I hooked up with Paul DeGelder. | ||
| I don't know if you know him. | ||
| He's the Australian Navy SEAL guy. | ||
| He lost his arm and leg to the bull shark. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We were talking about him yesterday. | ||
| Dude, that motherfucker. | ||
| Dude, he's one of the baddest motherfucking most positive people you'll ever meet. | ||
| His fucking story is insane. | ||
| It's crazy seeing him walk around with that fake arm and fake hand. | ||
| He looks totally normal. | ||
| He gave me a fucking... | ||
| I was sitting in the chair and he came up and I heard the hand and I'm like, motherfucking, he almost ripped my fucking shoulder out. | ||
| The hand's strong? | ||
| Dude, it's fucking... | ||
| He's like, yeah, you know... | ||
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There he is. | |
| There he is. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because, you know, I had to be really careful because, you know, I used to take care of my business with the right hand and then, like, you know... | ||
| That's so crazy, man. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| A bull shark took his arm and leg and now he's on the Discovery Channel Shark Week and he fights for ocean conservation because if you kill the lead predator in the oceans and the culling that's going on... | ||
| So I contacted him and I go, Paul... | ||
| I'm gonna tell you right now the whole vegan shit is becoming this shit for rich fucking people and the people that really need it are the ones they can't afford $25 to go to a veg fest and all this shit it's becoming this pompous fucking shit and the food and you'd go to try to have a fucking meal and it's like fucking 50 bucks and just in fucking appetizers and the people that really need it are not getting access to this and I saw 13th the documentary About the | ||
| prison industrial complex in America. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| So you know what's going on. | ||
| Prison is basically slavery. | ||
| Slavery. | ||
| There's a loophole in the law that if you're incarcerated and do a crime, that you can be put to work and not get paid. | ||
| You get a dollar. | ||
| They're in there making Victoria's Secret fucking underwear and all this other shit. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| So it really fucking lit a fire under my ass. | ||
| And I said, Paul, I said, a lot of these documentaries are like... | ||
| You know, I eat vegan and I got big muscles and fucking whatever the fuck. | ||
| I'm like, what about the motherfuckers that really need it? | ||
| What did I go through? | ||
| I've been through fucking hell as a kid. | ||
| I was on the streets of New York. | ||
| I was in the same place Mike Tyson was, Spofford in the Bronx. | ||
| Only white dude in the whole fucking place. | ||
| Fucking went upstate, did all this shit. | ||
| I'm like, what changed me, man? | ||
| It was this process. | ||
| I said, the people that need this shit, they're not getting access to it. | ||
| I said, let's come up with something and fucking help these people. | ||
| Let's go fucking help these dudes who are coming out of prison. | ||
| And then we contacted Kip. | ||
| He's like, I want to direct it. | ||
| Me and Paul wrote up the whole treatment. | ||
| And then they contacted... | ||
| We were going to try to put them in an air... | ||
| You know, these dudes in a house. | ||
| And then we found... | ||
| The producer found Elizabeth, who's the producer. | ||
| African-American chick. | ||
| These girls are fucking... | ||
| They're money, man. | ||
| They're fucking great. | ||
| Dawn. | ||
| And they found this place called Amity Foundation. | ||
| And they're like, they're already doing this. | ||
| They have them in here. | ||
| They're doing meditation, drum circles, American Indian chants. | ||
| So much like when you were young and your life was filled with turmoil and chaos, you found the Hare Krishnas, you found this discipline in becoming a monk and sticking to this plant-based whole foods diet. | ||
| But it became your ideology. | ||
| It became your life. | ||
| It became like a path. | ||
| And this is what a lot of people need. | ||
| They need a path. | ||
| It gives them a feeling of purpose. | ||
| It gives them an identity. | ||
| And made to feel like they matter. | ||
| Society has taught these motherfuckers that they don't matter. | ||
| And they even punish you after you do your time. | ||
| That's why they're trying to sign this legislature that's do away with the box. | ||
| I don't know if you heard about that in California. | ||
| You have to check off a box that you've been convicted of a crime. | ||
| So they're trying to do away with that because, yo, you did your time. | ||
| You served your fucking... | ||
| You served your time. | ||
| You served your debt to society. | ||
| Why should you continue to be fucking punished? | ||
| And they can't even get a job working anywhere because no one will fucking hire them. | ||
| So it's a whole... | ||
| So what we're doing is... | ||
| I have Dante Ross coming in. | ||
| He's been in the hip-hop game forever. | ||
| One of the dudes wants to be a rapper. | ||
| Another dude wants to play guitar. | ||
| I just hooked up with Yamaha. | ||
| They're gonna give him a guitar, amp, all this shit. | ||
| Tal Ronan, who owns Crossroads Restaurant, which I heard you talk about. | ||
| I listened to your podcast, Joe. | ||
| You were talking about... | ||
| That's Travis Parker's place, right? | ||
| Well, he's an investor, yeah. | ||
| But Tal Ronan is the chef... | ||
| That runs it in. | ||
| That place is supposed to be amazing. | ||
| Dude, fucking Tal said, tell him to come in. | ||
| Fucking have a fucking dinner. | ||
| They do fucking everything, man. | ||
| Crazy food. | ||
| He's Oprah's chef, dude. | ||
| And he cooked for the Dalai Lama. | ||
| Oprah's looking kind of thick. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know what she's eating. | ||
| I know she ain't vegan. | ||
| Or plant-based or whatever. | ||
| She's eating plant-based some of the time. | ||
| Some of the time, Snickers bar, son. | ||
| Or who knows what. | ||
| Yeah, who knows. | ||
| Yeah, but it was about giving these guys facility to change their lives. | ||
| And that's what this documentary, Dirty Life, is. | ||
| Because they told me, go out on this tour for 30 days. | ||
| You're going to change your motherfucking life. | ||
| And that's what I did, and I stuck with it. | ||
| The training and everything that I do for Ironman, I'm on my fucking 11th Ironman. | ||
| I'm on the road constantly with the Cro-Mags, touring. | ||
| I'm in the gym every day. | ||
| I'm not trying to be a fucking 90-pound fucking Ironman dude. | ||
| I still hit the weights, hit the bags, do whatever. | ||
| I'm all about recovery now. | ||
| My friend Aaron Drogoszewski runs recovery in New York City, so I'm all about the CVAC pod and the NuCalm, which provides in 30 minutes you get three hours of restorative sleep. | ||
| His whole What is that? | ||
| How's that work? | ||
| Dude, it's fucking amazing, man. | ||
| I went up there. | ||
| I'm like his fucking guinea pig. | ||
| Like, all the shit that he's learning, massage school, fucking trigger point therapy, everything that he's been learning. | ||
| And he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He fought in the Golden Gloves. | ||
| He has black belts. | ||
| He's a hardcore dude. | ||
| All tatted up. | ||
| And, you know, I just been on this and I went into crunch because they were offering a special thing and he was he led the boxing and he taught kickboxing and worked with all the five points guys would all be in, you know, five points Muay Thai. | ||
| So, yeah, before that, they were all up in crunch, you know, training. | ||
| Then they opened up the school, but he was there. | ||
| And I said, yo, I want to do this Ironman. | ||
| He started training me from day one to do my first race. | ||
| I started with him in 2010. I did my first race, 2012, New York Ironman. | ||
| So then his whole journey, now they open up this place to recover. | ||
| It's right up the block from Henzo Gracie's on 30th Street. | ||
| So they have the CVAC pod, which takes you to elevation. | ||
| It increases your VO2 max by like 5.8%. | ||
| And I think doping, doing the EPO and everything, only gives you 3%. | ||
| And then he does the newcom. | ||
| So now, I tried to test the shit. | ||
| And I'm like, alright, newcom. | ||
| It fucking works with the wiring in your brain. | ||
| So you put blinders on and you sit there with these fucking headphones and he has electrodes. | ||
| He puts this gel. | ||
| By the way, I have his card and he said, you come to New York next time. | ||
| I want to try. | ||
| I want to set one up in here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, so the thing was, I tried to fight it and be like, no, I'm fucking not gonna pass, I'm not gonna go out. | ||
| And the vibrations that they designed, the sound vibration that's coming through these headphones, I'm just trying to fight passing out. | ||
| And I just fucking went out. | ||
| And then they woke me up and they're like, yo, how long do you think you were out? | ||
| I said 15 minutes. | ||
| They were like, you were out for an hour and 20. I'm like, what? | ||
| And it's just, it's fucking bizarre. | ||
| Like, they're learning so much about recovery. | ||
| And now all kinds of pro athletes are coming in to recover in New York. | ||
| The studio over there on 30th Street. | ||
| All Henzo's guys. | ||
| Henzo's nephew who just won... | ||
| What did he just... | ||
| What was that MMA tournament? | ||
| He just won something... | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| He had some fight and he won. | ||
| And a lot of those guys are coming in and a lot of pro athletes. | ||
| There's a lot of endurance athletes that are going in there. | ||
| So how does it work again? | ||
| There's electrodes that are on your neck. | ||
| So he puts like, do you have a TENS machine? | ||
| You know what they are? | ||
| Like the gluey fucking pads, right? | ||
| So it's these squares. | ||
| And then he puts this gel and he puts it behind you. | ||
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Conductive gel. | |
| Conductive gel. | ||
| And he puts it behind your ear here. | ||
| And then the headphones and the blinders. | ||
| But it's sending a pulse into your body and the sound vibration. | ||
| Is it attached to a big machine? | ||
| It's a fucking little machine like this. | ||
| So it's something that we could have here. | ||
| Yeah, you can have it here. | ||
| I'm telling you, man, you will bug the fuck out. | ||
| That sounds crazy. | ||
| He's an expert in it. | ||
| The guy who manages the whole shit, he's an expert in the Newcom stuff. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's a big fan of yours, by the way, too. | ||
| Shout out. | ||
| Yeah, he's Aaron. | ||
| So this is it right here. | ||
| So when you put this on, is it on a timer? | ||
| Yeah, it's a timer. | ||
| How do you know when it's over? | ||
| Do you wake up when it's over? | ||
| No, they had to wake me up, man. | ||
| Those are the pads. | ||
| They woke me the fuck up. | ||
| I thought I was out for like 15 minutes. | ||
| Step two, microcurrent stimulation. | ||
| Step two for NuCalm is to use a subsensory microcurrent to catalyze the effectiveness of the NuCalm supplementation so you take pills with it, too. | ||
| No, I didn't take any pills. | ||
| The combination of the supplementation of the microcurrent works on the midbrain to interrupt the body's natural stress response. | ||
| Research shows this microcurrent helps balance the brain's neurochemistry by reestablishing optimal neurotransmitter levels. | ||
| You won't feel it while it's working. | ||
| That's fucking Swahili as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| That should help the way your brain works as well. | ||
| Yeah, it's insane, dude. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And they're the only ones in New York that are doing the new calm. | ||
| They're the only ones in the East Coast that have a fucking CVAC pod. | ||
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Wow. | |
| One of the universities out here... | ||
| They've got one in Orange County. | ||
| I know Ian McCall was using that shit for a while. | ||
| He said he got great benefit out of it. | ||
| Well, the woman who holds the world record time trial, I believe, she was doing CVAC, the pod. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| You go in this thing, and it's like, you have to work up, because you can't just go to level five, and your fucking shit will just bug the fuck out. | ||
| So I worked all the way up to level five. | ||
| How long did it take you to work up to it? | ||
| It took me a couple of weeks. | ||
| But what I really noticed was with my running, because I mark my thresholds and everything, so every run when I was training for the last race, I just did Chattanooga. | ||
| A half Ironman. | ||
| So every run I was doing, it's going in the CVAC and then going to do the Newcom and then I do the Norma Tech boots. | ||
| They have everything at this place, Recover. | ||
| So they're just using... | ||
| And then they have this other fucking magnetic blanket that fucking... | ||
| You sit on it. | ||
| And then there's an isolation pad on top, and it sends these frequencies through your body. | ||
| Oh, I've done that. | ||
| Wait a minute, what is that called? | ||
| I'm fucking, I'm spacing on it. | ||
| They have that at the cryo place that I go to. | ||
| Dude, it's, and they're getting, they got cryo coming now, and it just flushes, like, I've noticed that I can go fucking hard as hell. | ||
| I mean, I would have to bike 120 miles and do a brick and get off the bike and go run 13 miles. | ||
| And I'm like fucking breaking threshold fucking records because I started taking up any athlete who's serious about... | ||
| Even Henzo's... | ||
| I think it was his nephew or something that just had that fight. | ||
| The coach was like... | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| And he's coming into the CVAC twice, three times a day. | ||
| And he's like, dude, his gas tank just doesn't run out. | ||
| He's fucking grappling, he's doing everything, and he's never fucking tired. | ||
| I've never seen him perform at this level. | ||
| So the success is there. | ||
| Even this woman, she broke the world record. | ||
| I think it was for TT, time trial, or track, or road, or something. | ||
| This woman cyclist did CVAC. And they accused her of fucking doping. | ||
| That's it, the Beamer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Beamer physical, yeah. | ||
| So I've done that. | ||
| Dude, that shit's fucking... | ||
| It's legit. | ||
| Yeah, they have that there too. | ||
| It does something. | ||
| It does something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I've been, you know, you're always getting hurt. | ||
| You know that too. | ||
| I'm always dealing with a fucking nagging fucking injury. | ||
| Yeah, you got something now? | ||
| I got a little groin issue, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, I've never had a race. | ||
| I've got my nose broken, Cabo Ironman. | ||
| I'm swimming out in shark-infested waters, fucking leaking. | ||
| But, like, even from boxing, I knew don't blow your nose because your eyes are going to swell shut. | ||
| So I had to do all mouth. | ||
| My first Ironman I ever did was New York City. | ||
| And Cromance, the drummer Mackie, booked a fucking show, This Is Hardcore, the night before. | ||
| So we played to like 3,000 motherfuckers going off. | ||
| You know that whole mosh and shit. | ||
| And we fucking lay it down. | ||
| And I fucking had my brother come down. | ||
| He drove me back to New York City. | ||
| I had a stress fracture in my foot. | ||
| I took a shower and I went to the swim start. | ||
| And I did an Ironman in August 12th. | ||
| 2012 in fucking 95 degrees, New York City, humidity, but I was not gonna be... | ||
| I mean, it took me... | ||
| With a stress fracture in your foot? | ||
| Stress fracture in my fucking foot. | ||
| And the thing is, right where the cleat is, that's where it pressed. | ||
| That's where my stress fracture, the second metatarsal. | ||
| And it was just... | ||
| And I didn't take aspirin. | ||
| I didn't take nothing. | ||
| I'm just like... | ||
| How long did it take you to get over that? | ||
| I watch videos like David Goggins, fucking, like that fucking maniac. | ||
| I'm like, fuck my pain, you know? | ||
| It took me 13 hours. | ||
| How long did it take you to get over the stress factor after that beating? | ||
| It took months. | ||
| It took months, and that's why I started wearing hokas now. | ||
| I run with hoka. | ||
| What's a hoka? | ||
| Hoka, these shoes. | ||
| And there's... | ||
| Oh, they're big pads. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Giant. | ||
| That's like a two-inch pad. | ||
| What is the deal with that? | ||
| Well, your shoe goes down in there. | ||
| It's not actually... | ||
| But it's this scientifically designed foam that absorbs shock from the road. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So, a lot of the top... | ||
| Heather Jackson runs in them. | ||
| She just fucking has been winning like crazy. | ||
| She's just so fucking... | ||
| Better cushioning. | ||
| Better cushion. | ||
| And when you get... | ||
| You know, I'm 56, so it's like I'm not a fucking dude that's recovering... | ||
| So quick as I used to in my 20s or whatever. | ||
| Do you ever fuck with barefoot running shoes? | ||
| I can't, man. | ||
| There's no cushioning. | ||
| I just can't do it. | ||
| You do a lot of your stuff. | ||
| I run on cement. | ||
| Trail sometimes. | ||
| I live in New York City. | ||
| I might run the trail, the bridal trail in Central Park if I can, or run around the reservoir, but mostly my shit is all in the city and the hokers just fucking... | ||
| The next day... | ||
| People say to me... | ||
| Yo, you must be fucked up for a week after the race. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| I did Kona World Championships two years in a row. | ||
| And the first year I did it, 2016... | ||
| I fucking went snorkeling with my girl the next day for like three hours. | ||
| So like... | ||
| The inflammation's not there... | ||
| I'm getting really dialed in on the equipment aspect, getting fitted for the bike, getting the right shoes to run in. | ||
| It literally took me six years to get dialed in on even the nutrition aspect in doing them races. | ||
| You don't want to get a belly full of fucking gels and all this other shit. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Anyway, but the recovery aspect of what I do... | ||
| I just watched... | ||
| Goggins was on the Rich Roll podcast and he was talking about how much yoga and stretching that he's doing now. | ||
| Two, three, four hours of fucking... | ||
| And I know you're into yoga. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Yeah, it's fucking great. | ||
| And that's what I need to start getting back into. | ||
| My girl Erica is always pushing me. | ||
| She's like, fucking bought me a kiosk thing for fucking integral yoga. | ||
| And I mean, she bought that shit for me last year. | ||
| I still... | ||
| You know, it's what you resist. | ||
| Like, if you read... | ||
| Have you read The War of Art by Steven? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've had him on. | ||
| Fucking love it. | ||
| You're having him on? | ||
| I had him on before. | ||
| I fucking love him. | ||
| I bought a stack of his books. | ||
| I used to give them out to my guests. | ||
| Just take this book. | ||
| You got any problems? | ||
| Things that are keeping you from being creative? | ||
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The War of Art. | |
| Do the work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he talks about resistance and the main thing about resistance is usually we're the most resistant to things we need the most. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it's this deep shit. | ||
| Every morning I sit down to write my screenplay or my next book, I read his shit. | ||
| And the Four Agreements I'm big into too. | ||
| I went to actually, somebody got me tickets to see Miguel speak, Don Miguel, and it was a life-changing encounter for me, the Four Agreements. | ||
| Don't take things personal. | ||
| Always do your best. | ||
| Be impeccable with your word. | ||
| And don't make assumptions, which I always... | ||
| I've created wars in my fucking mind. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then they're like, dude, I wasn't even thinking that. | ||
| What the fuck is your problem? | ||
| That's classic. | ||
| It's fucking, dude. | ||
| The assumption shit is fucking crazy, man. | ||
| And I think if everybody just slowed down and read some literature on some of these teachers that, you know, humanity could do so much better... | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Pressfield's great, man. | ||
| And what he does say about resistance is so powerful because there is something that keeps you from doing things that you know you're supposed to do. | ||
| And when you do them, you feel so much better. | ||
| It's like, why didn't I just do it? | ||
| What was all this procrastination and bullshit that was involved in me putting this off? | ||
| And then when you finally do it, every time I walk out of a yoga class, I'm like, I gotta do that again tomorrow. | ||
| I gotta keep this ball rolling. | ||
| This is a part of my life. | ||
| I gotta get... | ||
| Especially for a guy like you, because everything is tight. | ||
| Racing and running and everything. | ||
| And then when you're on stage, everything is fucking crush, crush, crush, crush, kill, destroy. | ||
| Yeah, you know what I mean? | ||
| It's like the thing about yoga is it's static. | ||
| These poses and stretches and your core gets activated and everything gets lengthened. | ||
| It's just a smart way to maintain your body in a healthy way. | ||
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| I try to justify it by going, well, I do yoga at the gym because I'll do my trigger point and then... | ||
| I do all my trigger point, myofascial release, all that, and then the last 15 minutes, my girl's like, that shit don't count. | ||
| It's something. | ||
| It's better than nothing. | ||
| You need to go. | ||
| No, but I remember how I used to feel when I would come out of those yoga classes in 81. I would feel like I could jump over a fucking building. | ||
| And I need to get back to that. | ||
| But even in the resistance aspect, you know, what... | ||
| Not doing what you're resistant. | ||
| And it could be something like, oh, I made an agreement with myself to fucking straighten out the papers on my desk and go through all this shit. | ||
| And if I don't do it, it puts me in the worst fucking mood. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Because that's what resistance... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you cave in and you give in to resistance, man, it's like... | ||
| And it could be the smallest little thing, like, you know, anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it just irks the fuck out of you. | ||
| I'm like, yo. | ||
| So I try to... | ||
| That's a good philosophy to live by and, you know, to have something that's been fucking with you, some things you're putting off, whether it's getting back into yoga or cleaning up your diet or quitting smoking or whatever it is. | ||
| Having that thing over your head where you know you haven't taken care of it makes you think less of yourself. | ||
| It makes you respect yourself less. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, and that's one of the things I tell everybody I work with, because, I mean, literally today, and I'm not bullshitting, I don't try to be like, you know, I don't even say I'm some kind of teacher, whatever. | ||
| I just pass the info to these motherfuckers. | ||
| Today, I had fucking four people come up to me on the street. | ||
| Yo, heard you on Rich Roll, fucking saw you on Vice, dude, love what you're doing. | ||
| Man, you fucking helped me. | ||
| I got into triathlon now. | ||
| I quit fucking drugs. | ||
| This guy told me that today. | ||
| And he's like, yo, I quit drugs. | ||
| I fucking stopped drinking. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| That is what it's all about. | ||
| Now, am I going to give a fuck and be like zoned in on something and find fault with what the fuck he's doing? | ||
| I was like, yo, man, props to you, dude. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| You know, you could do anything, you know, you apply yourself to and that's really, you know, my whole thing in life is to just, you know, and that's what Prabhupada did. | ||
| Prabhupada came to America in his 70s aboard the Jaladutra, crossed two oceans, had two heart attacks, almost passed away. | ||
| But his teacher in India said to go to America At 70 years old, with $7,000 in case of Bhagavatams, and he came to America, to the Lower East Side, to the Bowery. | ||
| What's a Bhagavatam? | ||
| The Bhagavatam, Srimad Bhagavatam is what's known as the Spotless Piranha. | ||
| It's, uh, the Bhagavatam, Srimad Bhagavatam is an ancient literature in India. | ||
| It's called, it's part of the Puranas. | ||
| It's called the Spotless Puranas. | ||
| So you brought a case of the book? | ||
| Ten cantos. | ||
| He didn't even have, he brought the original texts that have been passed down from one teacher to the next to the next to the next in India. | ||
| And they said, his teacher Bhakti Siddhanta said, you need to write these books in English for the world, to help the world. | ||
| So he didn't, all the people in India were like, Swamiji, you know, you are at the end of your life. | ||
| Why are you going to go to America? | ||
| It's a very dangerous place. | ||
| Not only did he go to America, he went to fucking New York. | ||
| To the Bowery, they robbed him. | ||
| He slept on the floor. | ||
| He fed people. | ||
| He cooked... | ||
| Allen Ginsberg got him his first storefront over there, called Matchless Gifts. | ||
| And they saw the humility of this person, Prabhupada, and what he did for people, how he had so much love. | ||
| He would cook the meals, serve everybody, clean up before he would even eat a grain of rice. | ||
| He had no possessions. | ||
| None. | ||
| He slept on the floor, on a mat. | ||
| And they saw the humility of him and he just... | ||
| And when I learned his story, there's a great documentary on him called Your Ever Well-Wisher on YouTube. | ||
| And it's about his life and how he came... | ||
| And, you know, Acharya means one who leads by example. | ||
| It's not what and I've learned this just by these big mouths that are out there that talk so much shit It ain't what the fuck you say. | ||
| It's what you do It's about your action and your words and how you interact with other people and how you see other people even these fucking so-called celebrities It's when the cameras ain't on how do you treat people, right? | ||
| You know what the fuck is the real core of your existence? | ||
| What are you here to do? | ||
| When I saw Prabhupada and read all this stuff on him and then started taking up the process, it just changed my life for the better. | ||
| Well, by you saying that, it's very enticing for people, right? | ||
| Like, they go, I want to do what he's doing. | ||
| I want to feel better like he's feeling better. | ||
| That's what's amazing about having someone who's a great role model. | ||
| Meaning, you might not even think of yourself as a role model, but... | ||
| By living your life by example, by doing things that you should do, by being healthy, by being active and enthusiastic. | ||
| But you've got passion about what you're doing, about your music, about pushing yourself, about your books, about the exercise. | ||
| And when you do that, People that don't have purpose in their life, they see that and they go, that's what I'm missing. | ||
| I'm missing, because we're missing so many things in this life. | ||
| But one of the things that people are missing is role models. | ||
| They're missing someone who they can look up to and go, oh, this is the way to do it. | ||
| And when you emulate their lifestyle and start thinking the way they think and using their lessons and applying them to your own life, you start seeing benefits. | ||
| And then that passes down to other people who see you. | ||
| It's like a candle. | ||
| One candle could light a hundred. | ||
| HR was that for me. | ||
| HR could have been telling me to worship fucking Cheetos and I would have done it. | ||
| Thankfully, he was into the right shit. | ||
| But I would see him go on stage and I would see his humility. | ||
| He would always say Ja is the ability of anything that I have. | ||
| He would always give praises to the Most High to Ja Rastafari. | ||
| Humble as fucking hell. | ||
| And the best musicians to ever... | ||
| Those four motherfuckers... | ||
| Are praised by every single fucking musician today. | ||
| If you talk Doc, Daryl, Earl, and Gary, Dr. No, every motherfucking musician out there will be like, those dudes are the fucking Dons, because they study music. | ||
| They were into jazz, and they were into fucking Return to Forever, and John McLaughlin, Mahavishnu. | ||
| Doc in 81 was like... | ||
| They call me squids because they met me in the Navy. | ||
| Yo squids, I want to take you to the Palladium, return to forever. | ||
| Why they call you squids? | ||
| Because they met me in the Navy. | ||
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Oh. | |
| So squids, like a squid. | ||
| Yo squids! | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, and then they call me Johnny Joe. | ||
| So that's where the John Joseph, I didn't use my last name because I was fucking a fugitive for 15 years. | ||
| Oh, that's funny. | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The thing was, he's, you know, Return to Forever is Al Demiola, Lenny White, Stanley Clark, and... | ||
| I'm missing... | ||
| Chikoria. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| Do you ever listen to this shit? | ||
| Stanley Clark, yeah. | ||
| Dude, you want to go down a motherfucking... | ||
| No, listen to Return to Forever, romantic word. | ||
| You want to go down a rabbit hole with how fucking amazing... | ||
| These fucking musicians are, or Weather Report, or any of these, you know, Maha Vishnu, Birds of Fire. | ||
| Like, they started turning to me, and he would say, squids, this is how we learn to play what the fuck we play. | ||
| And nobody could touch the bad brains musically, energy on stage, nothing. | ||
| And I would see these dudes, I'd be like, what the fuck are you into? | ||
| And then the role models, like you said, we need good role models. | ||
| There's so many fucked up people that these kids want to emulate today. | ||
| And I see it because I came up in New York. | ||
| I worked in all the underground hip-hop clubs. | ||
| I worked for the Pope of Pot. | ||
| I used to deliver pot to all the rap stars. | ||
| I delivered pot. | ||
| My friend, this dude, Matt, worked for TriStar. | ||
| He was like, yo, meet me at the Boston Comedy Club. | ||
| There's this black comedian there, and he's going to be fucking huge. | ||
| And I would show up on my bike, and you know who the fuck it was? | ||
| Dave Chappelle. | ||
| Dave fucking Chappelle. | ||
| Dave fucking Chappelle. | ||
| And when he did Half-Baked, did you notice that he put the weed delivery guy in all bike gear? | ||
| Where the fuck you think he got that from? | ||
| I used to show up. | ||
| I never carried a bag. | ||
| I showed up with a $4,000 carbon fiber frame and I had a black water bottle and all the weed bags was in the two water bottles so it just looked like I was a cyclist out on a ride. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| And Dave Chappelle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Dave Chappelle. | ||
| He blew up so fast. | ||
| Matt Hine was the guy's name. | ||
| He was the publicist at TriStar Pictures. | ||
| And then I delivered to him at the Boston Comedy Club. | ||
| And within months, he was living in some palatial fucking spot on 2nd Avenue and 15th in the... | ||
| And I'm like, yo, how the fuck did you get from there to here? | ||
| Thankfully, the dudes showed me the right path in life and I've been trying to stick with it and pay it forward. | ||
| That's my whole thing is paying it forward. | ||
| Paying the knowledge forward. | ||
| You go out of my way to fucking help people. | ||
| I feed the homeless in New York. | ||
| I sponsor a soup kitchen. | ||
| I've done benefits. | ||
| That have been on MTV. Because, you know, I grew up being starved, man, in a foster home. | ||
| Like, this bitch fed us. | ||
| She would take Oreos, and she didn't like the filling. | ||
| So she would scrape off the filling and spit it in a bowl and put it on green molded bread. | ||
| That was our meal for the day. | ||
| So we had to learn to scam as kids. | ||
| They fed us rotten food. | ||
| We were never allowed in the house. | ||
| They beat the shit out of us. | ||
| They were so cheap, they made us clean their carpets with toilet bowl brushes. | ||
| New toilet bowl brushes because they didn't want to run the electricity. | ||
| All seven kids had to take a bath in the same fucking bathtub water. | ||
| One after the other. | ||
| So how did we get around that? | ||
| We went to the fucking gas station and we would fucking bathe, do bucket showers. | ||
| Everything was about survival. | ||
| It was all survival, survival. | ||
| Even on the streets, I was a heroin mule. | ||
| That's how I survived. | ||
| I left St. John's. | ||
| That's how I got into punk rock, you know, the Ramones. | ||
| Rock, rock, rock, rock, away, beach. | ||
| St. John's Home for Boys, Rockaway Beach, 1976. I'm like, yo, I'm weird. | ||
| And I started getting into Iggy Pop and all that. | ||
| And then I'm seeing the Ramones hanging out at 116th Street at The Circle. | ||
| And when I split from the boys' home, I moved in with these junkies in this bungalow. | ||
| And they're like, yo, go down to Alphabet City. | ||
| You're going to carry all the heroin back for us. | ||
| So that was my gig. | ||
| And then he set the guy up and robbed him and all this crazy shit. | ||
| Then I was making fake acid and going to the garden and just a fucking street urchin. | ||
| And then I got into the angel dust, selling it in Forest Park at the Dome. | ||
| Frank Grillo's father knew who I... You know Frank Grillo, the actor? | ||
| Yeah, he's friends with Callan. | ||
| Yeah, very good friends. | ||
| He's another great human being, man. | ||
| Frank, I know from Crunch. | ||
| I met him at Crunch, actually. | ||
| There was a lot of cool people. | ||
| And his father, he goes, yo, I just read this guy's book. | ||
| Like, you hung out. | ||
| His father was, like, supposedly homeless. | ||
| You remember this kid that used to hang out with Disco and all these, and Bobby Bird and all these guys? | ||
| And so, he's like, yo, where the fuck did you hear those names? | ||
| Like, it's this guy John, you know, John Joseph. | ||
| He was a fucking kid back then. | ||
| And, you know, was on the streets over there fucking selling dust at the dome. | ||
| And so just, you know, all that crazy... | ||
| Like, I've been around all those negative people and tried to, like... | ||
| You know, I had people... | ||
| This one guy, Junior Nuts and Dougie Holston, they both got murdered. | ||
| But they would be like, take that pipe and go smash that guy in the fucking face with it. | ||
| And I would do it. | ||
| Because I was 14 years old. | ||
| I'm on the fucking streets. | ||
| And, you know, you try to impress... | ||
| Crazy motherfuckers by being crazy. | ||
| And I did a lot of fucked up stupid shit in my life that I'm still trying to write the karmic scales for. | ||
| So my work will never be done until the last breath I take in this lifetime. | ||
| I'm trying to help people. | ||
| And, you know, by whatever methods I can, you know. | ||
| Well, that's a beautiful path, man. | ||
| I mean, you've turned a terrible situation and terrible circumstances into a way that you've created now where you're inspiring people all the time. | ||
| That's very positive. | ||
| I mean, just the impact that you have. | ||
| I think one of the things that we were talking about earlier about all the negativity that people have online, I think part of the problem with that is I don't think people totally understand communication. | ||
| I think what we're handed is these tools to distribute our thoughts and our information, and we're trying to get rudimentary reactions. | ||
| And we're not understanding that these reactions don't just stop with the person that we're interacting with. | ||
| They affect ourselves, because they affect how we feel about ourselves. | ||
| If you write some petty shit about someone, you don't really respect yourself. | ||
| If you write some nasty, snarky, petty shit about someone, And you're insulting for no reason. | ||
| You know you're insulting for no reason and you feel it yourself. | ||
| You don't have great self-respect for yourself for that. | ||
| And then on top of that, that person that you hurt their feelings, they might perhaps interact with other people negatively because of that as well. | ||
| It's a chain reaction. | ||
| Become the first to attack next because they've been attacked before, too. | ||
| So they start acting that way. | ||
| What it is is a lack of understanding that a lot of us have, all of us. | ||
| I've been guilty of it, too, of the impact that our communication has. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Because we're not thinking about it in a comprehensive, wide-scale look. | ||
| We're thinking about it in terms of, that is annoying to me, so I'm going to fuck that guy's world up by saying shitty things about him and his fat, stupid face and whatever you want to say about him and insult them. | ||
| I'm gonna tell you what a lot of the problem is, too, and I see it all the time. | ||
| We're losing the art of even having a conversation between human beings because this is what everybody does. | ||
| When you see them going down the motherfucking street, and yo, New York is still motherfucking dangerous, and now all these motherfucking texting zombies that come out of the club and they're fucking... | ||
| They're walking into traffic. | ||
| They're getting fucking robbed. | ||
| They're getting run over. | ||
| They're getting fucking crazy. | ||
| But the thing is, this... | ||
| Right? | ||
| Now, we have a law. | ||
| I go out with my friend Jake from Rocks Off in New York City. | ||
| He does all the Rocks Off tours and does all this stuff. | ||
| He has a rule. | ||
| When he goes out to dinner, everyone has to hand their motherfuckers' cell phone in to the fucking maitre d' and no cell phones. | ||
| So that you sit there and talk with each other. | ||
| The conversation... | ||
| I saw this whole special, and it was on CNN, and it was Anderson Cooper, and it was the guy that was teaching mindfulness. | ||
| I forget. | ||
| He's been teaching meditation. | ||
| I wrote about him in my book. | ||
| So the whole rule was they had to be mindful the entire time that they were at this thing. | ||
| They had no cell phone, no TV, no nothing. | ||
| And they had to be mindful when they ate, mindful when they took a shower, mindful when they walked down the street, remaining mindful during conversations, respecting other people. | ||
| And, like, it was the CEO of fucking Google and all these big companies were there. | ||
| And what they learned at this retreat for the 10 days or whatever that they were there a week, it was so powerful that they took that and implemented that in their companies. | ||
| And now Google, they make everybody sit down in a fucking auditorium before they start their day up there in Silicon Valley or wherever the fuck they are. | ||
| And they have to just sit there for 10 minutes and be mindful. | ||
| And meditate and be mindful. | ||
| And that's something that's becoming a lost part of humanity because the internet and all of this shit, it's like people are losing touch with themselves and with each other. | ||
| You don't validate me. | ||
| You know what I do when them people, when they even knew I was coming on here and they was talking shit? | ||
| I fucking deleted them. | ||
| I didn't even read their motherfucking comments. | ||
| Once I saw a few toxic words, I'm like, fuck you. | ||
| Delete, block, see you fucking later. | ||
| To me, it's out of sight, out of mind. | ||
| I just don't have time... | ||
| For people capable of that. | ||
| Yeah, because, you know, I still have the tendency to do the four disagreements. | ||
| I do take things personal. | ||
| I will make assumptions. | ||
| I'm a work in progress. | ||
| I'm not healed. | ||
| Just like I say, I'm always going to be an addict. | ||
| There's always that possibility... | ||
| That I'm going to fucking... | ||
| I have to have my coat of armor, which I say my sword of fucking PMA and my coat of armor, which is everything I do every day, but I'm not beyond the shit I'm trying to... | ||
| So, you know, why the fuck do I want to go hang out with... | ||
| Very negative people. | ||
| Or if somebody starts talking shit about somebody else, you know what I say to them now? | ||
| Yo, my man, did you tell so-and-so that? | ||
| Why the fuck you telling me? | ||
| I don't want to hear it. | ||
| And I forget which philosopher said it, but he goes... | ||
| The only true examination of... | ||
| Like, when we find fault in others, it's really what we're seeing in ourselves. | ||
| We're pointing out the bad shit in ourselves. | ||
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For sure. | |
| We're constantly fault-finding, you know, with other people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it comes back to that fly mentality, man. | ||
| I just... | ||
| And try to set the good example. | ||
| And that's another thing Prabhupada said. | ||
| Example is better than precept. | ||
| And right now, you just have a motherfucking bunch of people talking shit instead of trying to be the example and try to live it and do it. | ||
| There are a ton of people out there that's crushing it. | ||
| And staying positive and doing, you know, getting off drugs, getting off alcohol. | ||
| Like, even the people in this program, man, you don't even know the shit that these guys have been through. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| Can you imagine spending 20 years in a fucking jail cell or going to Pelican Bay or going to Pelican Bay and being in the shoe? | ||
| Like, what the fuck that does to human beings? | ||
| Like, the strength that that takes. | ||
| And I'm gonna tell you, and the other reason I got involved is because my uncle, back in the day, worked at Chino Prison. | ||
| In the 70s and 80s, he was like the assistant warden or something in Chino. | ||
| Now, Chino, if you know the prison system, what they call that here in California is gladiator school. | ||
| But there's a documentary about this guy, and he's a former Navy SEAL, and he went in there. | ||
| And the documentary is called Salvaged Lives. | ||
| And he went in there and taught these guys. | ||
| He put them through like a little bud's ding, squirted them with holes, trained them fucking hard as hell, taught them every aspect of commercial diving. | ||
| And when they got released, he got them jobs on oil rigs and all this stuff, making six figures. | ||
| And the guys who were working for these oil companies, they said, these are the most skilled fucking people that we've ever had come to work for these companies. | ||
| So between trying to set a good example and seeing the people before me that's done it and wanting to reach out and help people and seeing, and my uncle telling me about this guy and then seeing the documentary when it came on, I was just like, I gotta try to do something to turn the tide and having a platform like Netflix or whoever's gonna pick up this documentary, it's like... | ||
| You know, it could show people, listen, stop incarcerating motherfuckers. | ||
| It's about education, not incarceration. | ||
| These are not animals. | ||
| These are human beings. | ||
| Yeah, it's a broken system. | ||
| It is. | ||
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For sure. | |
| It's not helping anybody. | ||
| It's just making people harder criminals and it's just punishing them by keeping them locked in a cage and they never get any better. | ||
| The idea is that you're removing the dangerous elements of society and protecting the rest of us. | ||
| Yeah, I get that. | ||
| But this idea of rehabilitation, it's non-existent. | ||
| Now they even removed the exercise equipment in the prison. | ||
| Yeah, because they think they're going to be more dangerous, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it's basically like... | ||
| We're warehousing bodies, man, and they violate them. | ||
| One dude got violated for smoking a cigarette in the facility, and they sent him back to serve the rest of his fucking sentence. | ||
| It's crazy, especially out here in California. | ||
| California and Texas and Florida, man, it's fucking crazy stuff. | ||
| And look, I look back to the whole situation that went down in the 80s, because I really try to do research, and the whole thing that went down, you had Nancy fucking Reagan saying, just say no. | ||
| And you know what George Bush Sr. was doing to fund all his operations in South America? | ||
| You know about that? | ||
| Selling crack. | ||
| Fucking selling motherfucking crack. | ||
| The vice president was bringing the cocaine, landing it. | ||
| I've had Freeway Ricky on. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Landing the planes in Arkansas. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Governor Clinton. | ||
| And transporting the cocaine and then... | ||
| Did you see the Tom Cruise movie? | ||
| Fuck yeah, I saw it. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| Made in America? | ||
| Made in America. | ||
| Made in America? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the thing was, and then they passed these draconian fucking drug laws. | ||
| Like, I think you could get caught... | ||
| I forget what the exact amount of grams were of minute portion of crack cocaine. | ||
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Right. | |
| And there was dudes getting busted with quarter pounds of fucking coke, but that's the white man's, and they would get fucking a slap on the wrist. | ||
| These dudes would go away for 10 years. | ||
| So they put the coke in the neighborhoods, they funded all their operations in South America, And then they passed draconian drug laws, and this was the Clintons. | ||
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Hello, Hillary. | |
| I was also friends with Michael Rupert. | ||
| Michael Rupert was the guy who exposed all that. | ||
| Do you remember they had those town hall meetings with the DEA and the CIA? And Michael Rupert, he was a homicide detective for the Los Angeles Police Department. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I did, I did, I think, I forget. | ||
| Wasn't he on homicide? | ||
| He was homicide, right? | ||
| And he went in front of this big meeting on CNN, and he explained it to everyone. | ||
| Was it C-SPAN or CNN? I don't remember, but it was on television. | ||
| And he explained that he busted the CIA selling drugs in the inner city, and that he has documents that can prove there's a detailed history of them selling drugs, then using those profits overseas. | ||
| There was a documentary about it that came out and it was these big, the fucking big drug dudes in LA said, yeah, these guys would just show up with fucking van loads of fucking coke. | ||
| Did you ever see that video of him talking in front of those people? | ||
| See if you find that video, because it's a fucking crazy eye-opening video. | ||
| But they're having this town hall meeting. | ||
| Here it is right here. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I saw this. | ||
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He has helped drugs throughout this country for a long time. | |
| Fuck yeah, man. | ||
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Hell yeah! | |
| People were like, what? | ||
| C-SPAN. They were like, what? | ||
| The brothers is, yeah, yeah! | ||
| People went crazy. | ||
| Allegations of CIA involvement in drug trafficking. | ||
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Fuck yeah! | |
| They, they, they... | ||
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All right. | |
| All right, obviously, that is an answer for a lot of you. | ||
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Now, can you please? | |
| I refer... | ||
| All right, now, can you please? | ||
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I refer direct... | |
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| People just yelling shit out. | ||
| They're like, what the fuck? | ||
| The CIA's selling drugs? | ||
| And a cop just told everybody that? | ||
| Do you know that they declassified those papers? | ||
| You can read all of those papers now online that they fucking did that shit. | ||
| Freedom of Information Acts. | ||
| And then they invested in the fucking prisons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they're making money. | ||
| Well, that's the crazy thing is privatized prisons. | ||
| Oh, it's insane. | ||
| That is the most evil thing, that you can make money, and therefore you're incentivized to make drug laws more strict so you can get more people in prison so you generate more income. | ||
| Thirteenth, man. | ||
| If you ain't seen that fucking documentary, it's why when I saw that I knew what my calling was to do. | ||
| Because, you know, Noah Levine, he wrote this book Dharma Punks and he's been a Buddhist. | ||
| He was a heroin addict. | ||
| He used to do a Buddhist ministry in the prisons and change these people's lives. | ||
| And, you know, they came out in this magazine called Satcha and I read this article. | ||
| So Satcha in Sanskrit means the mode of goodness. | ||
| So that's what this magazine was called. | ||
| And I read this article about these inmates that he was working with and one of them said he was never getting out. | ||
| He's, you know, life without the possibility. | ||
| And he said, if I had access to the information of what I've learned through this program, I wouldn't be where I'm at. | ||
| So then that planted the seed in me and then just seeing what the whole shit's turned into, how the people that really need the food deserts and everything that's going on in this country and the research I've done and everything I've been talking about and fighting for change by taking action against the fucked up shit and then 13th coming out and just lit another fire under me. | ||
| I'm like, man, you know, let's fucking like help these people, man. | ||
| But yeah, I knew about all that coke shit back in the fucking day and at first I was like, yo, because Congress wouldn't cut a check to him to do his dirty fucking shit down in South America. | ||
| We got our hands in wars all over this fucking, trying to take down governments all over this fucking planet. | ||
| Man, it's insane. | ||
| Yeah, that Barry Seale story is fantastic, too. | ||
| That's the guy that Tom Cruise played in that movie. | ||
| I mean, it's a fucked up version of it in the movie. | ||
| I'm sure it's not totally accurate. | ||
| But that guy was selling drugs and he was going to South America and bringing them over and dropping them off in Arkansas while Clinton was the governor. | ||
| And he pardoned him. | ||
| The DEA dude was like, I fucking got you. | ||
| Call comes, let him go. | ||
| Guess who it was? | ||
| Bill Clinton. | ||
| Yeah, that's fact. | ||
| Dude, that's a fucking fact. | ||
| Yeah, that really did happen. | ||
| And then you get, you know, Hillary Clinton, I'm for black people and this and that. | ||
| No, you ain't. | ||
| Now she's like, yeah, we have to change the fucking prison laws and the sentencing laws on drugs. | ||
| Yo, you created those. | ||
| The three strikes was your fucking husband. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's a fascinating character because people want to think of her as being this super progressive person because she's a woman and because she's a Democrat. | ||
| She didn't even believe in gay marriage until 2013. She talked shit. | ||
| I saw videos of her talking shit against gay marriage and like, you know... | ||
| Marriage should be the unity of a man and a woman. | ||
| It's all political. | ||
| They're all mouthpieces. | ||
| No one can take a stance and say, this is who the fuck I am, no matter what group I'm talking in front of. | ||
| That's who I look to and have respect. | ||
| I don't change my stance on shit. | ||
| Well, you remember when Bernie Sanders was trying to get her to release the transcripts of those speeches that she gave in front of the bankers? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Tell us what you said! | ||
| Those fucking things were buried, long gone, like no chance. | ||
| You're not going to release those. | ||
| That would be some dark shit where she's making sure that you're going to make more money. | ||
| You get me an office. | ||
| I'm going to make sure you keep making money. | ||
| We're here to make you make more money. | ||
| I've seen... | ||
| Your comments on Trump to some point. | ||
| What do you think about homeboy? | ||
| I think no one should be president. | ||
| And I think the idea of having a popularity contest is fucking ridiculous. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| What we should have is a council of wise people. | ||
| Old school! | ||
| The real shit! | ||
| There should be a group of the most wise economists. | ||
| Qualified! | ||
| But your work should be judged. | ||
| It shouldn't be partisan. | ||
| It shouldn't be you're trying to appeal to social justice warriors or radical progressives or radical conservatives or right-wing Christian fundamentalists. | ||
| It should be you're making sense because you understand law and fairness and ethics and morals and values, and you understand with an objective sense and an educated sense of how to establish a quality Community of human beings, | ||
| a civilization in which people can prosper, in which laws are fair, and in which we establish what do we find necessary, what do we find important, what's imperative, education, community, all these different values, and enforce those. | ||
| It's somehow or another figure out a way to make this world a better place than what it is now. | ||
| Engineer a better place. | ||
| That's not what we get. | ||
| What you get is some person who says they're going to do all kinds of shit until they get in there, and they very rarely do. | ||
| Did you see the A-B shit that they just put up for all of fucking Trump, like the shitty promise on the campaign, and now what he's actually doing? | ||
| No one's done any different. | ||
| Obama did the same shit. | ||
| Obama did the same shit. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, people forget. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Hillary would have done the same shit. | ||
| They all do the same shit. | ||
| And the thing that fucks me up the most is the popular vote doesn't decide who the fuck gets in. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's fucking the electoral colleges. | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| Yeah, what is that? | ||
| What is that shit? | ||
| Who is that? | ||
| Who the fuck are all those? | ||
| Representative government was a great idea when you had to get on a fucking horse and take your ass to Washington in order to place your votes. | ||
| You don't have to do that anymore. | ||
| You can vote instantaneously. | ||
| People should be able to vote on issues with their phone. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Your phone's in your pocket all the time. | ||
| You should be able to... | ||
| First of all, you should have some sort of an understanding of what you're voting on. | ||
| You should have to pass some sort of a test. | ||
| They should say, do you want to vote on spending? | ||
| Do you want to vote on healthcare? | ||
| How much do you understand about healthcare? | ||
| Well, let's take a test. | ||
| And the people that can pass the test, understanding what the consequences are or why they're doing this, then you should be able to vote. | ||
| But this should be something that... | ||
| You should have some skin in the game. | ||
| There should be some... | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Some understanding of what this system is. | ||
| Instead, you know, look, I'm not a giant supporter of any mainstream media, whether it's right-wing or left-wing, but there's something fucked up about these people from CNN going to these Trump rallies, and you've got hundreds of people giving them the finger, fuck you, you're fake news, fuck you, and they've got American flag t-shirts on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a nonsense, almost pro-wrestling aspect to all this. | ||
| It's what it's become. | ||
| But he's profiting off this. | ||
| Trump is, for his advantage, he set this up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he found a broken system, and he said, I'll just fucking rig the system. | ||
| I know how to get people to like me. | ||
| I've been doing this forever. | ||
| I'm a cocky, arrogant billionaire. | ||
| That's my shtick. | ||
| I'm gonna walk up there with my $5,000 suit on and I'm gonna wow the shit out of these dummies and I'm gonna have them cheering for me. | ||
| These guys are fake news. | ||
| You sit down, you're fake news and everybody goes crazy and cheers. | ||
| Yeah, did you see that somebody just... | ||
| This video was, I think it was... | ||
| It might have been CNN that posted, and it was like the toxic level of... | ||
| It was this group, and they were just yelling at CNN. That was Jim Acosta. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that was exactly what I'm talking about. | ||
| Yeah, that's who I saw, and they were all like, fuck you, and the chick that was fucking screaming. | ||
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| I'll tell you something, because I'm a native New Yorker and I have friends that are in the unions and they built fucking... | ||
| Trump burned a lot of fucking people and got rid of fucking skilled labor and skilled fucking union people and burned union people and hired illegals to do the fucking work in his fucking building. | ||
| All this shit this guy says, he's... | ||
| You know, everybody says what they have to say in order to get the votes and... | ||
| He didn't have a good reputation amongst construction people. | ||
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Terrible. | |
| Terrible. | ||
| And also not for paying his bills, too. | ||
| Yeah, he always... | ||
| There's so many lawsuits against him. | ||
| How about that fucking school that he fucking had? | ||
| Yeah, Trump University. | ||
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Trump University. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| Trump University. | ||
| If you gave that motherfucker your money... | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| That doesn't mean that Hillary would have been a good choice, either. | ||
| She was a techie. | ||
| Terrible choice. | ||
| She's a corrupt politician, one of the most unlikable people that's ever run for office. | ||
| In so many ways. | ||
| Crazy shit. | ||
| And they were trying to get people to be supporting her just because she's a woman. | ||
| There was a lot of that. | ||
| It's like, this is going to be her history. | ||
| You know, women, ladies, I stand with her. | ||
| So there's all these women that have this blind allegiance towards this career politician. | ||
| It's completely full of shit. | ||
| She's been full of shit forever. | ||
| If you watch the conversation between James Comey, when James Comey testified about what he did and what they found with the Hillary Clinton emails, and then her version of it, she's just a straight liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She deleted 33,000 emails. | ||
| How the fuck do you do that? | ||
| And then... | ||
| Even worse than that, when they rigged the DNC, they rigged the primaries so that Bernie Sanders was going to lose. | ||
| I mean, she had her people into the DNC. That was crazy. | ||
| Way in advance. | ||
| That Donna Brazile book about it is mind-blowing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The thing was, he was packing fucking stadiums. | ||
| She couldn't even fill a fucking high school gymnasium. | ||
| Right. | ||
| She was pulling all the strings, and she had all the favors that she was pulling in, and she had a shit ton of money behind her, and they were completely arrogant, and all the liberal elite and the media thought there was no chance that she was going to lose. | ||
| She's 95% shoo-in to win the presidency, and she walked around like she was 95%. | ||
| She already thought she won. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you had the Benghazi shit. | ||
| What the fuck was up with that? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What the fuck was going on over there? | ||
| A lot of lies. | ||
| And you know, with the dirt that's on, I hope, you know, whatever. | ||
| Bill Clinton, I know you eat vegan sometimes, so don't fucking say nobody else. | ||
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He doesn't anymore. | |
| He had a real problem with it, health-wise. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| When... | ||
| It's just the hate rotting him out from inside. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| All the times he pulled his dick out. | ||
| But like... | ||
| No, but like, how the fuck did she get away with that? | ||
| Well, how about shaming all the women that came out and accused him? | ||
| She would attack those women and go after them. | ||
| And, you know, I mean, Bourdain talked about that recently before he killed himself. | ||
| There was a thing about what she had done to attack the women who were victims of Bill, you know, especially earlier in her career. | ||
| Oh, God, she fucking... | ||
| She represented child molesters. | ||
| That was one of the things that She did earlier in her career. | ||
| She got them off. | ||
| There's a videotape that Dave Smith was talking about. | ||
| She was laughing in one of them about the victims. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with... | ||
| She was laughing about the effectiveness of lie detector tests. | ||
| She was like, obviously they don't work. | ||
| Yeah, she's a piece of work. | ||
| She is, man. | ||
| She's a long-time, lifelong politician and a lawyer. | ||
| And what about all the shit that went down in Arkansas, the shit that they were all accused of back in the day? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| The Whitewater thing. | ||
| Whitewater fucking thing. | ||
| The Whitewater shit. | ||
| And just the string of people that have been fucking whacked who tried to... | ||
| Vince Foster. | ||
| There's a great book I read a long time ago called The Strange Death of Vince Foster. | ||
| It's like, wait a minute, what? | ||
| They found the gun in his hand, which you never do when you kill yourself. | ||
| When you shoot yourself, when you shoot yourself and you pull that trigger, blam! | ||
| Everything goes, the gun goes flying. | ||
| You don't hold on to it. | ||
| There's recoil in the gun. | ||
| And you blew your brains out. | ||
| You're not holding your gun anymore. | ||
| It goes flying. | ||
| And he had the gun in his hand, and the blood that was missing from his body was not on the scene of the crime. | ||
| So the researchers think that they moved his body. | ||
| He was dead. | ||
| They put him there and rigged the crime scene. | ||
| And then put a gun in his hand. | ||
| Case closed. | ||
| But what was he testifying? | ||
| He had information about Whitewater. | ||
| What he was going to say. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| They killed him. | ||
| We'll never find out. | ||
| How about the guy that was one of the whistleblowers for Enron. | ||
| Shot himself in the head twice. | ||
| How'd he do that? | ||
| That shit's hilarious. | ||
| You shoot yourself in the head twice. | ||
| Case closed. | ||
| That's clearly a suicide. | ||
| I mean, I guess you could kind of graze your head if you pussied out, like, ah! | ||
| And you're like, fuck, I'm bleeding! | ||
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Boom! | |
| You could do it. | ||
| It is possible. | ||
| But it's more likely somebody killed them. | ||
| Yeah, it's just there's... | ||
| People kill people! | ||
| It's part of the thing. | ||
| When you're involved with billion-dollar deals with giant corporations, and they're also tied into the military-industrial complex, who, by the way, kill innocents all the time and write it off. | ||
| Like, all this shit that happened with drones, what's the number? | ||
| It's like in the high 80s or 90% innocent people killed by drones. | ||
| They don't worry about that. | ||
| You think they're going to worry about some guy who's going to sink Monsanto or sink Enron or sink the Clintons or sink anybody? | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| Send the boys. | ||
| Get them whacked. | ||
| Clean it up. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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| Shot himself in the head twice. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Press conference. | ||
| We're all good. | ||
| Everything's wonderful. | ||
| Here's Monsanto with some new glyphosate. | ||
| It's going to fix your corn. | ||
| You'll never have to... | ||
| But I read this thing that most of the most of the glyphosate that's being put out there is by people on their fucking own homes They don't know any better they spray roundup It's you know I have a friend who had bone cancer and he lived near a golf course and they put so many Pesticides in the golf course that it got into the groundwater right and he said all these people in his neighborhood got cancer and He has a fake femur bone. | ||
| One of his femur bones, it's a metal bone. | ||
| He got bone cancer. | ||
| They cut his bone out and they replaced it with this metal pipe. | ||
| The history of them too was Agent Orange and all this other shit. | ||
| My uncle was forced recon in the Marines and he got everyone in his units that got, they're behind enemy lines and got MS cancer. | ||
| They were spraying that shit on our own fucking troops. | ||
| Yeah, well, they figured, look, this is the way we got to get rid of it. | ||
| The problem is they're hiding in the jungle. | ||
| We got to get rid of the jungle. | ||
| Let's just kill the jungle with poison. | ||
| This is crazy thinking. | ||
| They just sprayed chemicals all over the jungle to kill the fucking forest so they could see where the enemy are hiding. | ||
| And then they had the troops walking through those chemicals. | ||
| It's fucking... | ||
| Fucking nuts. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And history will not judge them kindly. | ||
| When they step back and think about what they actually did, I mean, it's in the 1960s, it's our parents' generation, and the way we look at it, it's almost like this unfortunate thing that happened, but I almost think we're too close to it to recognize how horrific it is that the soldiers who were putting their lives on the line in their thought to defend our freedom over in America were getting poisoned. | ||
| By their own government. | ||
| Look at Iraq. | ||
| Where were they putting all the depleted uranium? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| All these soldiers are coming back from the Gulf War and everything else. | ||
| We're dumping all the fucking depleted uranium over there. | ||
| It's a dumping ground for us. | ||
| They're getting fucking... | ||
| Not just dumping. | ||
| They were using it as rounds. | ||
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| They were using it as anti-tank rounds. | ||
| That's what I meant. | ||
| They were putting it in... | ||
| They were weaponizing it. | ||
| And then all the fucking troops are coming back having fucking kids with deformities and getting cancer and all this shit turned down for their benefits. | ||
| Yeah, they denied it was even an issue. | ||
| Denied it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking, what the fuck is that? | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| It's all about money for them. | ||
| They're distantly removed from it the same way someone's distantly removed from factory farming if they buy a burger at a restaurant or a burger at a fast food joint. | ||
| They're not thinking about a pig that's in that can that makes that McRib. | ||
| They're not thinking about that. | ||
| The disconnect isn't... | ||
| And the people that are thinking about the numbers on the paper, look, they're number crunchers. | ||
| They've got to save the government some money. | ||
| Deny them. | ||
| Deny them. | ||
| Make them fight it. | ||
| Make them fight it. | ||
| There's no Gulf War syndrome. | ||
| My uncle gave up. | ||
| Did you see... | ||
| Detachment. | ||
| Speaking of the military-industrial conference, did you see the latest movie that came out with Woody Harrelson, Shock and All? | ||
| Have you seen that yet? | ||
| No, I didn't see that. | ||
| About how... | ||
| Oh, they uncovered the whole fucking thing about how the fucking weapons of mass destruction was just a complete lie. | ||
| Every news media outlet, except for one... | ||
| Lied and backed up the government's claim and the whole shit. | ||
| The Times ended up apologizing like we got it wrong. | ||
| So you go in there, you fucking send troops in there, you fucking kill how many millions of fucking innocent people over there to what? | ||
| To sell fucking weapons and push another... | ||
| And then there's a justification after the act. | ||
| Like, hey, it was a good thing to get Saddam Hussein out of there anyway. | ||
| He was a bad guy. | ||
| Yeah, but the CIA worked with him in the early 80s and gave him the fucking gas that he used. | ||
| So, what the fuck is like, you know, that was just some yeehaw shit because fucking homeboy, you know... | ||
| Well, it was... | ||
| They took advantage of an opportunity. | ||
| We got attacked, you know, September 11th. | ||
| The planes get hit by the... | ||
| Or the towers get hit by the planes. | ||
| Everybody wanted action. | ||
| And this was an opportunity for them to take advantage of this call for action. | ||
| And even though we're going against someone that had nothing to do with the attacks on September 11th, people felt like something was happening. | ||
| The head guy from... | ||
| Department of Defense was like, what do you mean they're fucking... | ||
| You gotta see this movie. | ||
| It's all fact-based, too. | ||
| It's like, what do you mean we're going... | ||
| Iraq didn't have anything to do with it. | ||
| What the fuck are we going into Iraq? | ||
| Oh, well, he... | ||
| And then they tried to say he let Osama bin Laden... | ||
| And they said, if Osama bin Laden met Saddam Hussein face-to-face, he would tell him to go fuck himself. | ||
| That's how different ideologies those two had. | ||
| Yeah, Osama bin Laden was religious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| And they sold it. | ||
| They just sold it. | ||
| But what's great about the movie is it shows how they just started force-feeding the information out there to create this fucking feverish, kill, kill, kill fucking mentality that the Americans... | ||
| Well, this is the same thing you're seeing with these people screaming at Jim Acosta. | ||
| You can manipulate dummies' mindsets, and this is what they do. | ||
| I mean, it's an easy way to pull the strings of the most easily led. | ||
| You gotta think, who's going to these rallies in the first place? | ||
| Most of these people that are going to these, like, Trump rallies or something like that, they're morons. | ||
| That's why they're going to these things. | ||
| They don't have shit to do. | ||
| Even if you're a Trump supporter, If you're an intelligent Trump supporter, which I do believe is possible, you're a person who's not going to go to a rally. | ||
| You have a job. | ||
| You're doing something during the day. | ||
| My buddy Jimmy Brady, he's a fucking Iron Man. | ||
| He's a firefighter in New York. | ||
| He's fucking got three kids. | ||
| A lot of the New York City Fire Department and Police Department supported Trump. | ||
| He ain't going to no fucking Trump rallies. | ||
| I mean, he's like, you know, he's a fucking really smart cat. | ||
| Those people are lost people. | ||
| And they found their hero. | ||
| And the problem with a guy like Trump is, he's an asshole, but he's an asshole On purpose. | ||
| Like, this is part of what his shtick is. | ||
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| You attack me, I'll attack you back, you know, and he starts making fun of Rosie O'Donnell or making fun of this person or that person. | ||
| Get him out of here! | ||
| We knew how to deal with people. | ||
| Like, did you see his whole shit that they put in the 13th? | ||
| And like, you know, he was talking to the black people that were in the fucking... | ||
| We knew... | ||
| The cops knew how to deal with these guys back in the day. | ||
| Punch him in the face! | ||
| Get him out of here! | ||
| And then they were... | ||
| He's inciting a lot of this shit. | ||
| Well, he's a good rabble rouser. | ||
| I mean, that's part of being an asshole. | ||
| Divide and conquer. | ||
| Divide and conquer. | ||
| If they could keep the people fighting each other over stupid shit, then you're not going to take the time to sit back. | ||
| I compare those people, you know, what's really going on. | ||
| I use the analogy of a magician. | ||
| They're trying to tell you, look what's in the left hand, but what the real shit is in the right hand. | ||
| So by doing all this shit and causing all these problems, you're not going to go back and look at the shit that he's pushing through, his agendas. | ||
| He just cut taxes to the fucking richest people, the billionaires and corporations, which he said he wasn't going to do. | ||
| He's going back on everything. | ||
| So if he could just get people, fuck you and fuck you and... | ||
| Getting people to hate each other and keep this country. | ||
| It's the United States of America. | ||
| When the fuck, how did we become united as a country? | ||
| Like, I think a lot of these countries right now who may pose a threat or whatever, they're seeing what the fuck's going on and they're like, yo, this country's never been more fucking divided. | ||
| It's the divided states of America, not the United States of America. | ||
| Well, what he's doing with these rallies is he's getting people excited about being a part of a team, and a team that's winning. | ||
| You know, like, we're the team that's kicking ass, and this is team fake news over there. | ||
| You tell them to go fuck themselves. | ||
| And everybody goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's consolidating his support. | ||
| And it doesn't have to make sense. | ||
| And especially it doesn't have to make sense with the people that are going to these rallies, because they're not smart people in the first place. | ||
| They're people that are easily led. | ||
| But that's the same thing with people that would go to the rallies for Hillary Clinton or people that go to the rallies for almost all these people. | ||
| A giant chunk of them are just... | ||
| They're just lemmings. | ||
| They don't know what to do. | ||
| I do have to admit one thing. | ||
| And that was when fucking Hillary Clinton was losing and the faces of the crying people who were like fucking losing their shit when Trump won. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| I'm sorry, but like, fucking dude, if that's the fucking truth of your existence that you put every fucking ounce of your shit into this fucking corrupt ass politician, whether it's fucking Hillary Clinton or fucking Bernie Sanders or any of them. | ||
| I feel fucking sorry for you. | ||
| I was laughing at those people when she lost and they were losing their shit on TV. They were just fucking stunned. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Because you don't realize I travel through America and people may be progressive... | ||
| On the outskirts, but go into the middle of this motherfucker and see what you got. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there was also people realized that she was corrupt. | ||
| I mean, he did a good job of calling her corrupt Hillary. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He just kept... | ||
| The mantra was going. | ||
| He loves mantras, and he pushes those fucking... | ||
| But they just had... | ||
| Yeah, corrupt Hillary. | ||
| He's got some good ones, man. | ||
| Crazy Bernie. | ||
| Crazy Bernie. | ||
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| I mean, he's a good manipulator in that sense. | ||
| But she didn't do any service. | ||
| But there was also, like, a lot of the women that were really upset were like, this guy was in that video saying, you take girls and grab them by the pussy. | ||
| And so they felt like this was going to give men a license to be sexually abusive. | ||
| And I think that, in a lot of ways, is what started the ball rolling with the Me Too movement. | ||
| It wasn't just the exposing of monsters like Bill Cosby, but it was also the fact that you're dealing with this guy who gets in the White House that's clearly not what you want. | ||
| If it's a man, you want a man who respects women, who's a statesman, who's a person who has worked their life to get to that position. | ||
| Not a person who did it as an afterthought once they were already famous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| See, like, the difference between a guy like Obama, like Obama's probably, he's probably measured his words ever since he was in college because he was hoping one day he would be president. | ||
| Whereas a guy like Donald Trump's just been banging hoes and fucking flying around with a jet with his name on it since the 80s. | ||
| I mean, this is what the guy did. | ||
| So then once he's in office, people are like, no! | ||
| They just couldn't believe it. | ||
| Like, how could this have happened? | ||
| This is the pussy grabber. | ||
| He's not supposed We're supposed to be in there. | ||
| And I get their pain. | ||
| I understand it. | ||
| But it is also funny. | ||
| There's something, like the women's on her knees with the glasses. | ||
| You ever seen that chick with the knit hat on screaming? | ||
| She's like, she's a meme. | ||
| She lost her shit. | ||
| She will exist forever. | ||
| Yeah, they made her meme. | ||
| Yeah, they... | ||
| They call it Trump derangement syndrome now because people are literally, they're so angry that he is in power and there's nothing they can do about it. | ||
| But the problem is that anger and that going derange, that empowers the people that support him. | ||
| They don't understand. | ||
| When you're on your knees screaming, fuck yeah! | ||
| The people on the other side that are Trump supporters with their fucking red hats on, they think that's hilarious. | ||
| They think, look, this is the liberal left, unhinged, detached from reality. | ||
| Meanwhile, we're making America great again and black unemployment's at an all-time low. | ||
| And, you know, it's... | ||
| Weird time for the truth, because there's so many people that don't want to go any further past the surface. | ||
| The truth is, this guy figured out a way to win a rigged system. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He figured out a way to win a rigged system by pretending to be a Republican. | ||
| Guy was a Democrat his whole life. | ||
| Democratic supporter his whole life. | ||
| Figured out a way, oh, just fucking be a Republican. | ||
| They're easier to scam. | ||
| Weaseled his way in. | ||
| Figured out a way to make America great again. | ||
| Yeah, rah, rah, rah. | ||
| Call people a bunch of stupid shit. | ||
| Campaign like a motherfucker. | ||
| Take diet pills. | ||
| Keep that energy high. | ||
| Just travel all across the country doing these rallies. | ||
| And won. | ||
| You know, and want a system that really shouldn't be there to win. | ||
| And I think that we need a better way to run our government. | ||
| I think your idea is fucking genius. | ||
| Having an alpha male or alpha female that one person, the one at the top of the peak, running 300 million people is insane. | ||
| Running 300 people is insane. | ||
| You have 300 people, one person running shit, you're gonna have disagreements. | ||
| You're gonna have people that are upset that this one person gets to dictate for the next four to eight years the path of everyone in this group and your financial future, your healthcare, all these, how much taxes you pay, all depending on what dipshit wins the popularity contest? | ||
| That's outrageous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's an archaic way of handling things. | ||
| It's just not necessary. | ||
| But the problem with letting everybody vote too is that people are really easily manipulated and they're really undereducated. | ||
| They don't have any incentive to pay attention to the real issues and what's at stake and what the consequences of each vote are. | ||
| They just vote with whatever feels good and they're busy. | ||
| And people are tired because they're eating shitty food, and they're not exercising, and they're working all day in a job that sucks, and they come home, and their wife's bitching at them, and they're on antidepressants and pills, and their kids are all fucked up, and they don't have the time. | ||
| They don't have the time, and they don't have the incentive to be enlightened. | ||
| They don't have the incentive to have an objective, enlightened approach to how you handle the future of our society and what our children are going to be left with. | ||
| Well, that's why it's the genius of these commercials. | ||
| I mean, I can't even watch TV when it's election time because it's just like one dude after the next shitting on each other or this person saying something about that. | ||
| Just mock them for doing that. | ||
| It's like the two things that you get when that shit goes on. | ||
| One is those political commercials and two was all the commercials for the pharmaceuticals. | ||
| Well that's a crazy thing. | ||
| That's what you get every fucking night. | ||
| There's two countries on earth. | ||
| New Zealand and America. | ||
| New Zealand and the United States where you're allowed to direct advertise to customers, to patients. | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And I love the commercials now where the dude figures it out. | ||
| Well, I asked about warfarin. | ||
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Yeah, now I know. | |
| I'm going to be happy again. | ||
| People are walking down the street and you see cartoon flowers around them and butterflies and cool music. | ||
| Now, if your antidepressants is not working, Abilify can fix it all. | ||
| Abilify will fix that up. | ||
| Side effects include suicidal thoughts. | ||
| It's like, motherfucker, I had suicidal thoughts before. | ||
| Ferocious rectal bleeding. | ||
| Yo, some of the side effects are... | ||
| They're crazy. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| You know Abilify is an antipsychotic. | ||
| It's the number one prescribed medication in the country. | ||
| Abilify. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Number one prescribed medication in the country. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's an antipsychotic. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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What? | |
| That's insane. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You're like, what? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Pull that up. | ||
| Make sure that's true. | ||
| I know I read that, but make sure that's true. | ||
| Somebody talked about that on the podcast. | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| Do you remember? | ||
| This is an article from 2015 saying it is the America's top-selling drug. | ||
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Fuck! | |
| It's an antipsychotic! | ||
| Yo! | ||
| Antipsychotic, Abilify is the biggest selling prescription drug in the US. $30 a fucking pill! | ||
| Damn, we're in the wrong business. | ||
| To be a top seller, a drug has to be expensive and also widely used. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Abilify is both expensive and widely used. | ||
| It's the 14th most prescribed brand name medication and it retails for $30 a pill. | ||
| So it's the biggest selling prescription drug in the U.S. Which company makes it? | ||
| Who's behind it? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Who is behind it? | ||
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Put it. | |
| Satan. | ||
| Satan Pharmaceuticals. | ||
| America's top selling drug. | ||
| I'll bet I can't Abilify. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| It's terrifying. | ||
| Official site. | ||
| Let's see which one of these scumbags make it. | ||
| They're the worst. | ||
| Did you ever read Confessions of an R.A.? Did you ever read... | ||
| Atsuka? | ||
| Atsuka. | ||
| Atsuka. | ||
| They probably changed names like Blackwater. | ||
| Oh, they do. | ||
| Keep switching up their names. | ||
| Did you ever... | ||
| Well, now they changed fucking... | ||
| What do you call it to... | ||
| They're changing the name on all these ingredients that are in food, too. | ||
| Like... | ||
| What is the additive, the sweetener that Donald... | ||
| Aspartame? | ||
| Aspartame. | ||
| They changed their name to Amino Sweet now because... | ||
| Oh, adorable. | ||
| Dude, you know who owns the patent on fucking aspartame? | ||
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Didn't... | |
| Donald... | ||
| Yeah, Donald Rumsfeld. | ||
| Donald Rumsfeld had something to do with it. | ||
| Owns that. | ||
| Well, he had something to do with passing it. | ||
| Yeah, he had something to do with ignoring evidence. | ||
| But see, someone told me that the amount of... | ||
| The chemicals they had to give to rats, the amount of aspartame they had to give to rats to kill them or to give them cancer was very high. | ||
| I'm like, okay, that's good. | ||
| Yeah, that's reassuring. | ||
| No, but there's a great book about the corruption of the pharmaceutical companies. | ||
| Can you Google this title real quick? | ||
| It's called Confessions. | ||
| Gwen Olson wrote a book called Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher. | ||
| And I think it was her niece died of a drug interaction that they knew about. | ||
| And she exposed the whole corruption in the pharmaceutical industry. | ||
| She was the top pharmaceutical rep. | ||
| And they said they know. | ||
| How does a drug get approved by the FDA? And then they turn around and fucking they pull it and people are dying and they settle for pennies on the dollar. | ||
| That's the fucking game. | ||
| They know there's going to be lawsuits. | ||
| And they're like, okay, we just made $3 billion off this drug and we settled our lawsuits for $200 billion. | ||
| $200 million, yeah. | ||
| $200 million, right. | ||
| So that's the game. | ||
| Right, the profit game. | ||
| But her book is amazing. | ||
| It's called Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher. | ||
| And that's what she was. | ||
| And she would buy out the doctors. | ||
| Half the people that they put on these medications, all they have to say is... | ||
| Change your fucking lifestyle, dude. | ||
| What is the father of modern medicine, Hippocrates, what did he say? | ||
| Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food. | ||
| There's also an Ayurvedic, I don't know if you know about the Ayurvedic system of medicine... | ||
| And it says when, you know, there's a whole quote about diet and seeing a doctor and stuff like that. | ||
| And it comes back to one thing, man. | ||
| Diet and lifestyle. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Tell people. | ||
| And that's what's great about a movie like Forks Over Knives. | ||
| Where there's anecdotal evidence that says, yo, if you stop, you see the change right there. | ||
| The fucking diabetes goes away. | ||
| The fucking heart disease. | ||
| All of this stuff. | ||
| Is cured by the fact that these people get their asses moving and they stop eating all this shitty food. | ||
| Yeah, shitty food is the number one problem. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's the number one problem. | ||
| Sugar, refined carbohydrates, your body processing massive amounts of stuff that it's not supposed to get in nature. | ||
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Oils in everything. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oils in everything. | ||
| And, you know, all these processed vegetable oils. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| That they're cooking things in. | ||
| Corn oil and fucking... | ||
| And people think, oh, you know, even to a certain... | ||
| What do you got here, Jamie? | ||
| The Donald Rumsfeld faction. | ||
| Yeah, FDA actually banned aspartame based on its findings only to have Cyril Chairman Donald Rumsfeld, currently Secretary of Defense at the time they wrote this article, vow to call in his markers to get it approved. | ||
| On January 21st, 1981, the day after Ronald Reagan's inauguration, Cyril, I guess that's C-A-R-L-E, reapply to the FDA for approval to use aspartame and food sweetener and Reagan's new FDA commissioner, Arthur Hayes Hall Jr., | ||
| appointed a five-person scientific commission to review the Board of Inquiry decision It became clear the panel would uphold the ban by a 3-2 decision, but then Hull then installed a sixth member on the commission, and the vote became deadlocked. | ||
| He then personally broke the tie in Aspartame's favor. | ||
| What a piece of shit. | ||
| But this puts... | ||
| They found evidence this shit makes holes in the brain. | ||
| Might induce... | ||
| The evidence... | ||
| Brain tumors. | ||
| Might induce brain tumors. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Might. | ||
| And the thing is now everyone got hip to aspartame. | ||
| Now you have to read because that's why the processed food is so fucking, you know, any of that fake sweetness shit. | ||
| And now they call it Amino Sweet is the new name that they changed it to. | ||
| Meanwhile, do you ever drink Zevia? | ||
| You ever drink Zevia soda? | ||
| No. | ||
| You ever have that? | ||
| Soda sweetened with Stevia? | ||
| Stevia. | ||
| It's fucking delicious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stevia's from plants. | ||
| It's a sweetener. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some people don't like the taste. | ||
| Of stevia. | ||
| It tastes good. | ||
| You just can't have too much of it. | ||
| Protein powders that have stevia in it and stuff. | ||
| Clean Machine has a protein powder that's lentine, water lentils they call them. | ||
| It's real clean stuff. | ||
| Protein. | ||
| We were using Stevia for that. | ||
| I call it Stevia, not Stevia. | ||
| Potato, potato. | ||
| It just doesn't taste the same. | ||
| It tastes good. | ||
| But it's so potent. | ||
| The problem is if people have a cup of coffee, I would have Stevia out, and people would put it in there and be like, oh! | ||
| I'd be like, you put too much in. | ||
| You can't put it in sugar. | ||
| It's way more potent. | ||
| You just need a tiny dash. | ||
| Like even back in the day, I remember my mom being like, oh yeah, NutraSweet and this and that. | ||
| Let's put all these other, like cane sugar is better for you than these fucking fake sweeteners. | ||
| It is, but cane sugar is still terrible for you. | ||
| All that stuff's terrible for you. | ||
| You're not supposed to get sugar. | ||
| It causes acidity in the body. | ||
| If you're going to do sugar, you should eat fruit. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| Well, it comes with the fiber, so your body's slowly digesting it, which is the way you're supposed to consume it. | ||
| But to be able to get a Gatorade, it's got fucking 80 grams of sugar, and that shit's terrible for you. | ||
| All that stuff's terrible for you. | ||
| Soda. | ||
| And they got all the pros pushing it, and these kids... | ||
| You go to these basketball camps or football camps or whatever or high schools and what are they drinking? | ||
| They're all drinking the Kool-Aid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| If you're exerting yourself very strenuously, you could use some of that glucose and it's okay. | ||
| But for the average person that goes to a fucking 7-Eleven and gets a big gulp and is downing 64 ounces of Coca-Cola, that is a crazy amount of sugar for your body to get in one serving. | ||
| Your body doesn't know what to do with that shit, so it stores it as fat. | ||
| I forget how many tablespoons of sugar they said is in one of them fucking big gulps. | ||
| Dude, they did a thing where they showed all the various sizes of soda next to a packet of the sugar, and you see the actual volume of sugar. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| This is our number one problem, and one of the things that I did when I cut sugar out of my diet. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| There's the image. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I saw that. | ||
| Look at the big gulp. | ||
| That's a kilo of Coke, son. | ||
| Look at the size of that. | ||
| That's so much sugar. | ||
| Your body doesn't know what the fuck's going on when you take that much sugar in. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Your body's freaking out. | ||
| And the thing is, you got kids jacked up on that shit, going to school, bouncing off the fucking walls. | ||
| Yeah, and then they put them on Ritalin because Johnny's got too much energy. | ||
| Johnny's on drugs. | ||
| He's on sugar drug all day long. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, and then on top of that, here's one of the problems with people consuming that kind of stuff, and then on top of it, saturated fat. | ||
| See, there's studies now that are showing that cholesterol and saturated fat are healthy for your diet and healthy for your body unless... | ||
| You're consuming carbohydrates and refined sugars. | ||
| Because when you're doing that, then your body's not burning fat. | ||
| So your body's just storing fat. | ||
| And on top of that, you're pouring massive amounts of sugar in there. | ||
| So you're getting hardened into the arteries and clogging into the arteries. | ||
| And people think that they're conflating and confusing all this and thinking, well, this is because you're eating cholesterol and saturated fat. | ||
| Nope, it's not. | ||
| It's because you're eating cholesterol and saturated fat along with Simple carbohydrates, refined carbohydrates and sugars. | ||
| There's a chemical reaction that your body has that when you're eating these two things together, it becomes toxic. | ||
| It's very dangerous for you. | ||
| Nitro-semites as well. | ||
| And that's the average American diet. | ||
| When you cook meat and then combine it with alcohol and the rest of the stuff, it creates a chemical reaction in the body that then causes problems for you health-wise in your immune system and gut health and everything else. | ||
| Yeah, there's a ton of problems with people's bodies, and you could trace it back to a host of different things. | ||
| You could trace it back to pesticides. | ||
| You could trace it back to a lack of minerals. | ||
| You could trace it back to excess sugar. | ||
| You could trace it back to processed vegetable oils. | ||
| You could trace it back to sedentary life. | ||
| There's so many different things that are a factor in people's health issues. | ||
| But one of the problems with ideologies, whether it's this carnivore diet ideology or vegan diet ideology, is people want to look at one thing. | ||
| There's one thing that's wrong, and you fix this thing, and if you just do this one thing, you're going to be healthy. | ||
| That's not necessarily the case. | ||
| And there's a lot of people out there on both sides that are spreading misinformation because it supports their view. | ||
| It supports their... | ||
| Or quoting studies that were funded by the same companies that are making money off of selling foods that are high in saturated fats or cholesterol or are... | ||
| Trans fats. | ||
| Trans fats. | ||
| There's companies... | ||
| So you always have to look between the fucking lines. | ||
| That's where the truth lies. | ||
| Because the milk industries... | ||
| What was the other documentary that came out? | ||
| Fuck, it was about, it started with the cigarettes and the chemicals that they were using in furniture. | ||
| There was this documentary, and I always blank on it, this fucking old man brain that I have. | ||
| It was a documentary about how they paid these people to put out false information. | ||
| Oh, I know what you're talking about. | ||
| Merchants of Doubt. | ||
| Merchants of Doubt! | ||
| Amazing documentary. | ||
| Holy fucking shit! | ||
| The same people that are doubting climate change were also doubting cigarettes being addicted. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They're using the same human beings. | ||
| And they're using the same tactics that they've been using to push the chemicals. | ||
| They had motherfuckers spraying DDT on their fucking clothes hanging in their closet to stop moths. | ||
| Can you fucking believe that shit? | ||
| They did that? | ||
| Dude! | ||
| It's in the fucking movie. | ||
| They had him spraying fucking cancer-causing fucking chemicals on this shit. | ||
| Just when you see those guys are the same guys that were trying to say that cigarettes are not addictive, and the same people that were dismissing climate change, you're like... | ||
| What? | ||
| Like, how can you be so obvious? | ||
| You don't even use new people? | ||
| They did the thing with the guy from Monsanto in the Roundup. | ||
| He goes, I would drink fucking Roundup. | ||
| And he goes, okay, I'm gonna go get you a fucking glass. | ||
| Here's a glass of fucking... | ||
| Drink it. | ||
| He's like, drink it. | ||
| He's like, nope. | ||
| What is this, Jamie? | ||
| Is that DDT wallpaper? | ||
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| Oh my god. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Containing DDT as the active insecticide. | ||
| Genuine cedar wood made into wallpaper. | ||
| So these people made DDT closet wallpaper with genuine cedar wood. | ||
| Well, the other thing is, even the chemicals that they put in the furniture, there's a big thing now to remove because it's calming the fucking children. | ||
| Do you know that rugs and furniture actually will release chemicals into the air in your house? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Protect your children against disease-carrying insects. | ||
| DDT, children's room wallpaper. | ||
| How many kids got cancer from that shit? | ||
| Fucking crazy fucking shit. | ||
| That is so insane. | ||
| Kills insects, mosquitoes, flies, ants, and you. | ||
| You know, one of the biggest ways that toxins enter the body is not by walking around the streets of LA or New York and breathing in the pollution. | ||
| It's the fucking home. | ||
| The amount of chemicals that are in the fucking home, and they talk about that in Merchants of Doubt. | ||
| The chemicals in the furniture, the chemicals in the clothes, the chemicals in the fucking diapers, the chemicals in everything, in the plastic... | ||
| It's chemicals, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals. | ||
| You're bombarding your fucking child with fucking dozens and dozens of chemicals every fucking day. | ||
| And while that child's immune system is developing, and then you're feeding it pesticides, you're feeding it this fucking animal that's been tortured its whole life and fed fucking steroids and hormones. | ||
| And you're wondering why these kids are coming out. | ||
| And they're so fucked because it's... | ||
| When they're getting into their teens, it's because all of that shit's taking a toll, not just physically, but psychologically. | ||
| There's so much other shit they're doing, too, to the food, putting... | ||
| There's an epicyte, you know, that they put in the corn and the soy now, and it's fucking... | ||
| It was done by this company in LA, and they were... | ||
| Down in California somewhere, epicyte, E-P-I-C-Y-T-E. And it fucks with the sexual reproduction organs of fetuses and children and all kinds of shit. | ||
| They're conducting, like, fucking mad science on human beings right now. | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| Just for profit. | ||
| Even in Hawaii, and I gotta tell you, I have friends that are out there and they did organic farming. | ||
| Do you know that all the world's seed banks right now for GMO are fucking grown in Hawaii? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's a closed... | ||
| Ecosystem. | ||
| It's closed off from everywhere else, so there's no other factors. | ||
| So they go and they spray motherfucking chemtrails in the air that come down onto the fucking ground and they can, for instance, and I... Wait a minute. | ||
| What do they do? | ||
| They're spraying... | ||
| They're aerosol spraying the crops. | ||
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| So they aerosol spray them with some sort of pesticide? | ||
| Yeah, and they do aluminum, barium, strontium. | ||
| Now, I'm going to tell you, I have friends that actually are doing this. | ||
| They were organic farmers and had to give up their farm. | ||
| And what they do is they're making the soil so acidic, the pH, that nothing will grow except for genetically modified seeds that have been Genetically modified to resist aluminum and resist all this other stuff. | ||
| Why are they spraying aluminum? | ||
| Where's that coming from? | ||
| It makes the soil very acidic. | ||
| It changes the pH. | ||
| I think aluminum has the greatest change to the soil. | ||
| And what's the benefit of them doing that? | ||
| Because then they can control the food supply. | ||
| Because if you don't buy the GMO seeds, the organic farmers are going out of business in Hawaii. | ||
| And this ain't no... | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| So you're saying that they're spraying things out of the sky that poison the ground so that only GMO farmers can grow crops there? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is that proven? | ||
| That's what's going on in Hawaii. | ||
| That sounds crazy, though. | ||
| That sounds so crazy. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| And I'm not saying they're going like some of these other chemtrail people, 35,000, they're spraying all the cities. | ||
| I'm saying they're coming in and spraying chemicals on the ground. | ||
| But they're not doing it as a pesticide. | ||
| You're saying they're doing it as a grand conspiracy to make the ground infertile for anything other than GMO crops. | ||
| Did you ever read Monsanto's... | ||
| Did you ever see the world according to Monsanto? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, so what do they say? | ||
| We want to control the world's food supply from seed to farm to table all the way through. | ||
| We want to control the... | ||
| So how do they do that? | ||
| How do they actually make that happen? | ||
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| And I see it happening to farmers in Hawaii and friends of mine. | ||
| I just did Iron Man out there. | ||
| What do you see happening? | ||
| Because what they're doing, the organic papaya farmers have had to all go either give up their farm or switch to GMO papaya because none of their shit is growing. | ||
| But is that because of depletion of the soil? | ||
| No, but they say that they're spraying the fucking chemicals on the soil. | ||
| But do you know how much they'd have to spray on the soil to make it infertile? | ||
| I mean, it seems to me it's a much more likely candidate to the same issues that we're having in this country with monocrops, that they're just depleting their soil because they're constantly growing on it. | ||
| No, but these guys are doing organic... | ||
| I had to study chemtrails. | ||
| I had to study chemtrails for quite a while because I was doing a television show on them. | ||
| And one of the things that I found, there's a lot of malarkey in this shit. | ||
| And one of the things that they find is they're like, oh, they're spraying aluminum. | ||
| And then when they do samples of the water, they find aluminum in the water. | ||
| No, they're doing samples of sludge. | ||
| They're doing samples of water with dirt. | ||
| Do you know what one of the most common metals you'll ever find on Earth is? | ||
| Aluminum. | ||
| Most dirt has aluminum in it. | ||
| So when they're testing this water, they're testing it positive for aluminum. | ||
| What they're doing is they're testing dirt. | ||
| Dirt tested positive for being dirt. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| So when they find aluminum, they say, oh my god, they're spraying aluminum. | ||
| There's no benefit to spraying aluminum on anything. | ||
| It's never been proven that there's some evil government cabal that wants to spray aluminum on everything, and that's the reason why papayas don't grow right. | ||
| It's way more likely that these papayas are growing in a place where they've been growing papayas for a long time and they've depleted the soil, especially dealing with soil that's really coming out of a volcano in the first place, right? | ||
| Well, I mean, I understand that aspect of it, but it's the combination of other chemicals that they're using. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| Before these seed banks showed up over there, they never had this problem. | ||
| Right, but there's also before large-scale agriculture made its way to Hawaii as well, right? | ||
| Right, so they probably had years and years and years of doing this and getting away with it to the soil started getting depleted Just like we have evidence of it getting depleted all over the world right in India They have issues with this with monocrops with anywhere in the world where they grow crops in the same area in These massive scales you're gonna deplete the ground of minerals and nutrients And it's just a part of the the problem and when they offer up that solution like hey our genetically modified crops | ||
| Crops are better and our genetically, you know, modified crops are, you know, they can survive in these harsh climates and you can also add all of our nitrogen and our fertilizers, all our nasty shit to the soil. | ||
| And everything else around it will die when we spray except for our crops because we've been genetically engineered to resist... | ||
| Yeah, glyphosate. | ||
| That stuff is scary. | ||
| That glyphosate shit is anything that kills everything but what you want it to is like, what? | ||
| What's it doing to what you want it to? | ||
| What happens to that food? | ||
| Is that stuff out of that food by the time you eat it? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so either. | ||
| I mean, when they're putting it in the seed and it comes out in the leaves and the bugs eat the shit and it blows their stomach up. | ||
| There's a great documentary on it called What's With Wheat where they try to break down why wheat all of a sudden became a huge problem in the American diet, whereas in the early 1900s it was nothing. | ||
| And it was a slow genetic modification where they started changing the weed itself. | ||
| And breeding it to make higher yields so it's got more complex glutens in it. | ||
| But then on top of that, it's the glyphosate. | ||
| The glyphosate breaks down your gut barrier. | ||
| So people get leaky gut and the rest of the issues. | ||
| It kills the bacteria. | ||
| I mean, this is what they're trying to do. | ||
| They're trying to kill bacteria. | ||
| But they don't realize your body's made out of bacteria. | ||
| Your body's an ecosystem of bacteria. | ||
| The problem with the whole government is evil thing is they're just greedy. | ||
| They're evil because they're greedy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But see, here's the thing, and you saw The World According to Monsanto, and it's this revolving door policy, how they come out of Monsanto, or even what he was doing in Rumsfeld when he was the CEO of Searle. | ||
| So they get into the government, they pass legislation, and then they go back to the corporations to reap the benefits of the laws that they passed. | ||
| So you have a lot of that going on. | ||
| So I think, you know, whether or not shit could really be what the fuck motherfuckers are saying it is in Hawaii or anywhere else, the truth is going to possibly come out eventually or maybe not. | ||
| But me personally, I tend to... | ||
| Try to stick to locally farmed, organic. | ||
| Like I go to the farmers markets. | ||
| How do you get it in New York then? | ||
| There's farmers markets. | ||
| Get it from upstate? | ||
| Yeah, they come into the city. | ||
| I mean, I'm not going to bullshit. | ||
| I go to fucking a health food store and eat shit that's out of season because I like my fucking broccoli and kale or whatever the fuck and some fruit or whatever, but... | ||
| How do they grow that stuff? | ||
| It's shipped in from Cali and Florida. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's not the best, but hey, when you take into equation the fact that I've eliminated the other foods that use the highest amount of fossil fuels to grow the crops and everything else that's involved with producing the huge, you know, these farms that are... | ||
| These animal agriculture systems and the amount of fossil fuels. | ||
| I mean, I have motherfuckers writing to me, you take a fucking plane to go on tour, fuck you. | ||
| Well, that's the thing we were talking about earlier. | ||
| They try to find fault in everything. | ||
| It's true, though. | ||
| We all do. | ||
| We both poison the sky a little bit when we fly. | ||
| Hey, you know... | ||
| I'll take the hit, man. | ||
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I'm guilty. | |
| It's the world we live in. | ||
| I mean, it's a real problem. | ||
| I mean, it's one of the things they found after September 11th with the lack of plane fights that changed the Earth's temperature. | ||
| I mean, it's kind of fucking nuts, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I never heard that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, the cloud cover that's created by contrails. | ||
| That cools the Earth down a little bit. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| Well, they've admitted to... | ||
| The government has actually admitted to a program to try to, you know, spray and shit to try to... | ||
| Cool the Earth's... | ||
| Well, they've admitted to experimenting with weather manipulation and to having strategies for dealing with it, whether it is for dealing with hostile foreign governments where you're trying to starve them out or trying to put rain. | ||
| I mean, they've been cloud seeding forever. | ||
| We have a Space Force now. | ||
| Did you see the fucking video that guys made on Space Force? | ||
|
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No. | |
| What is it? | ||
| Is it funny? | ||
| It's fucking hilarious. | ||
| It's on YouTube, the spoof on Trump's Space Force. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| It's like trying to patch a shotgun wound with a Band-Aid. | ||
| Let's reduce the fossil fuel. | ||
| If you want to fucking cool the Earth and everything and save the fucking oceans and all the rest of the shit, why don't we... | ||
| Check how the fuck we live our lives, but everybody wants to pass the buck and say, oh, well, why should I do it? | ||
| You know, let the next motherfucker do it. | ||
| But, you know, you, by what you put in your card and how you live your life, you have fucking, how many people in America? | ||
| 200, how many? | ||
| 300 million. | ||
| 300 fucking million motherfuckers passing the buck along. | ||
| You're not getting anywhere. | ||
| Yeah, and China's how many billion in India and it's like they're not fucking They're not gonna stop fucking doing what they're doing. | ||
| No, no, they're not and it's Again, it's like what we were talking about with all the other aspects of gigantic culture. | ||
| There's so many moving pieces It's so it's so difficult because we're we're talking about these pieces that have been in place for decades and so to try to make corrections now And some people are. | ||
| They are going to organic farms. | ||
| They are going to raising their own food and having everything be local. | ||
| And that's definitely better. | ||
| The real problem, it seems to me, is overpopulation. | ||
| The real problem is when you jam... | ||
| You know, Los Angeles is a perfect example. | ||
| There's 200 million people just here. | ||
| Just in LA. 200 million? | ||
| Excuse me, 20 million. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I was like, wow. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| 20 million people just here, and then there's Orange County, which has more people. | ||
| San Diego has more people. | ||
| As you get north, there's more people in San Francisco. | ||
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Shit, you got more people than New York? | |
| Because we got like eight and a half fucking million in New York. | ||
| Yeah, there's more people here. | ||
| There's more people in California. | ||
| Just in LA. There's more people in Los Angeles than there is in all of Australia. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Just Los Angeles. | ||
|
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That's insane. | |
| It's insane. | ||
| So there's so many people and no one's grown anything other than weed. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's just weeds being grown here and that's it. | ||
| So all the food is being shipped in from everywhere else. | ||
| And so you've got fossil fuels being used. | ||
| Even in Hawaii, you pay more in Hawaii for a fucking pineapple than you do on the mainland. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Dude, it's fucking insane. | ||
| You ever been there, how expensive fucking food is? | ||
| Yeah, everything's very expensive. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful place though, and that's why people are willing to take that hit. | ||
| We live in a place that humans like yourself and myself and people that are alive today, we are stuck in a system that was created many, many decades ago. | ||
| It was put into place. | ||
| Many decades ago, and it wasn't put into place with our interest in mind. | ||
| It was put into place with the interest in mind of profit. | ||
| And it was also to deal with, to accommodate millions and millions of people that are all jammed into one place where no one's growing any food. | ||
| It's a very unnatural way to live. | ||
| You know, they started, like, coming down on all the people fucking growing shit on their front lawns and their backyards now. | ||
| Because urban organic farming, you know, I'm in touch with a lot of those people. | ||
| As a matter of fact, there's one in New York City. | ||
| I ride from New York City out to, like, Long Island, Jones Beach and all that. | ||
| And I pass in Far Rockaway. | ||
| There's a guy that he's doing, like, a big urban farm in this thing, you know, in this crop of land. | ||
| The urban farming is becoming a big thing. | ||
| There was one guy on ABC and he walked home from work every night and it was 5 miles. | ||
| African-American guy and he's trying to lose weight and get healthy. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Every motherfucking night, all he passed was KFC, this, that, the other thing, 7-Eleven. | ||
| He could not buy a fucking piece of fruit or a fucking apple in any of those fucking places. | ||
| None. | ||
| So then they said, well, how the fuck are we going to get food if we ain't got no car and we can't go seven, ten miles out of town to the supermarket? | ||
| So now urban organic farming is becoming a big thing where they're showing these people. | ||
| And now they're starting to crack down. | ||
| The cities are trying to crack down on these people that are growing fucking food. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| I had Ron Finley on this podcast, and he's got a similar program in South Central, and he helps these kids and people that live there use vacant lots, use medians, use all these areas. | ||
| They're doing it in Detroit, too. | ||
| Yeah, it's fantastic. | ||
| Grow food. | ||
| Grow fucking food. | ||
| Food would be free. | ||
| Grow it on patches of land. | ||
| I mean, what would be ideal is if every community, instead of just having a house jammed next to a house, jammed next to a house, every community have one community lot, and that community lot we all grow our food in. | ||
| Not hard to do. | ||
| I mean, even in a fucking closet, they're showing how to do... | ||
| They had a shipping container in New York, and it was a demonstration, and they put it on Lafayette Street in Houston, and it was a shipping container. | ||
| And when you walked in there, it was a fucking farm. | ||
| And I forget how many thousand pounds of fucking organic produce that that fucking farm inside that shipping container was able to grow. | ||
| But it's insane. | ||
| You know, and that's with artificial light, but you could do that with real light. | ||
| I mean, the real streets that you see everywhere you go. | ||
| Where concrete is, it could be dirt. | ||
| It is possible that we could cordon off a small section of every community and have a community garden. | ||
| It would also be good for the community in terms of people interacting with each other and feeling like they're a part of something and taking responsibility. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Taking care of something. | ||
| Getting your hands in the dirt, too, man. | ||
| That's one of the programs we did in this documentary. | ||
| We had the guys going to organic farms and getting their hands in the dirt and seeing people just as a disconnect between Farmers, man, that's a fucking hard-ass fucking job. | ||
| It's a fucking hard-ass job. | ||
| It's fucking hard, man. | ||
| We don't show the appreciation. | ||
| And I think, who was the one black activist who used to run the marathons and shit? | ||
| Forget his name, in the 60s. | ||
| Dick Gregory? | ||
| Dick fucking Gregory, man. | ||
| He always talked about growing your own fucking food and... | ||
| Do you know Dick Gregory's the guy who brought the Zapruder film to television? | ||
| The Zapruder film of Kennedy being assassinated. | ||
| It looks like he's being shot from the front. | ||
| No! | ||
| What? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Dick Gregory brought that to the Geraldo Rivera show. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Eight years after the assassination. | ||
| It might have been more than eight. | ||
| It might have been more. | ||
| You know a lot of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It might have been ten years after the assassination. | ||
| Something crazy. | ||
| But people didn't see Kennedy get assassinated until many, many, many years after. | ||
| When this guy Zapruder, who was there on the spot, was filming. | ||
| They took his film and he sold it to Time Life magazine. | ||
| They used stills of it and then they didn't show it. | ||
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Twelve years. | |
| Twelve years. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Twelve years later. | ||
| 75. Wow. | ||
| So in 75, on the Geraldo Rivera show, they premiered the Zapruder film footage of the assassination of President Kennedy from like fucking, you know, 20 yards away. | ||
| He was right there. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| And you see Kennedy's head go back into the left. | ||
| You see the spray of blood and you're like, what? | ||
| So did they show that it was more than one... | ||
| They can't tell for sure. | ||
| And there's a lot of speculation because there's so many... | ||
| I mean, it's black and white and it was shaky back then. | ||
| They've since used computers to stabilize the image. | ||
| But what it looks like... | ||
| The untrained eye is that he's shot more than once and probably shot from multiple different angles. | ||
| The reason why they came up with the magic bullet theory was because they had to account for another bullet that didn't hit the president. | ||
| They had to account for a bullet that ricocheted under an underpass and hit a guy. | ||
| So yeah, the bullet had to go through two people and it had to leave traces of the bullet behind that weren't missing from the bullet and it had to shatter bone and not distort, which doesn't happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you know anything about bullets, if you shoot anything, bullets get jacked. | ||
| They tear up. | ||
| They bend. | ||
| They get distorted. | ||
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It's lead. | |
| You could take fucking lead. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, even if it's jacketed, it's still going to get fucked up. | ||
| It's hitting bones and shattering at a ridiculous speed. | ||
| The single bullet theory was also created by Arlen Specter and those fucking guys from the Warren Commission Report. | ||
| Bunch of evil assholes. | ||
| There's a great book on it called Best Evidence by David Lifton. | ||
| David Lifton was an accountant who went over the Warren Commission report, step by step, every step of the way, and found all these contradictions in the reportings. | ||
| Like, this is a bullshit document. | ||
| What they were trying to do was just wrap this bitch up nice and tight. | ||
| They weren't trying to solve the crime. | ||
| They were trying to wrap this thing up tight, and the most ridiculous aspect of it is the magic bullet theory. | ||
| But before anybody saw the Zapruder film, it didn't look that ridiculous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We heard what we were told. | ||
| Kennedy got shot by Oswald, and then Jack Ruby shot Oswald. | ||
| Case closed. | ||
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Very convenient. | |
| Very convenient. | ||
| The whole thing is ridiculous. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know why they killed him, but it's very likely that there was quite a few people involved, and not just Lee Harvey Oswald. | ||
| He was probably involved, too. | ||
| Well, you know that he passed a resolution. | ||
| He was fucking with the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| What was the... | ||
| Well, there's a lot of problems. | ||
| The Bay of Pigs. | ||
| Bay of Pigs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He wanted to get rid of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| He wanted to get rid of the CIA. He started printing up currency backed by – he wanted to go back to the gold-silver standard. | ||
| He started printing up notes. | ||
| Fucking, if you could find those notes from when he was in, silver certificates. | ||
| And he said, why are private banks controlling our money? | ||
| The Federal Reserve. | ||
| It wasn't, I think, one of the acts that George Bush Jr. passed before he left office. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Executive Order 11110. To give the printing of the money back to the fucking, take it away from the Federal Reserve and Yeah, they whacked him just a couple months later. | ||
| And give it back to the secretary. | ||
| His father said that they're gonna kill you for this. | ||
| His father told him that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You fuck with them bankers, man. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It comes back to power. | ||
| It's not about a conspiracy. | ||
| It's about, yo, it's about they want the ultimate greed. | ||
| It's the ultimate greed. | ||
| We control everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Well, especially back then. | ||
| I mean, the amount of accountability that politicians had back then, you can get away with a lot. | ||
| There was a lot of wiggle room. | ||
| And, you know, it's most likely that somebody other than just Lee Harvey Oswald, and he probably had something to do with it, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he was probably one of the pieces. | ||
| Manchurian candidates, man. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| They grab these guys. | ||
| They fucking... | ||
| Who knows does what with them fucking... | ||
| You know, they're still doing it, I believe, to this day. | ||
| You know, a lot of these fucking... | ||
| Motherfuckers that's trying to fucking... | ||
| Shoe bombers and this fucking clown and this... | ||
| You know, there's so much shit going on. | ||
| Like, even the shoe bomber. | ||
| Like, who... | ||
| How the fuck did he get on a plane with no passport? | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's like, there's so much shit to just go... | ||
| Well, you remember that guy that they busted in Dallas? | ||
| He was a guy that they'd set up. | ||
| They set him up to be an Islamic terrorist. | ||
| They trained him. | ||
| They gave him the weapon. | ||
| And then as he was trying to detonate the weapon, they arrested him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, you guys talked him into doing this. | ||
| You gave him the bombs. | ||
| And then you arrested him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what would he have done if you guys weren't even there? | ||
| Would he have done anything? | ||
| They thought that this guy was a person who was suspicious, so they literally set up and entrapped him. | ||
| Entrapment. | ||
| It's kind of crazy. | ||
| It's going on a lot, man. | ||
| It's fucking... | ||
| We don't even know the shit that's going on behind the walls in the fucking offices, man. | ||
| It would fucking scare the fucking bejesus out of you if you knew what the fuck was what these people's minds had. | ||
| Well, you get accustomed to making rationalizations that will cost people their lives. | ||
| And I think anybody that can send a drone to shoot down an apartment building because of metadata, you know, you found a metadata that seems to indicate that the cell phone of a certain criminal is on the 14th floor. | ||
| Let the fucking Hellfire missiles fly, baby. | ||
| I mean, that's decisions that they make at the highest level of government. | ||
| Sitting there completely fucking disconnected from everything. | ||
| If you talk to someone from the CIA, they tell you it's all lawyers who make those decisions too. | ||
| Lawyers do all the calculations and they go, yeah, you can do it. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Crazy, man. | ||
| Dude, we just did three hours. | ||
| Wow, did we? | ||
| Yeah, flew by. | ||
| Well, you know what they say, how do you know when a lawyer's lying? | ||
| His fucking lips are moving. | ||
| Hey, I got a good lawyer though, let me tell you. | ||
| There's got to be good lawyers. | ||
| There is. | ||
| There's good people in all walks of life. | ||
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There's good people. | |
| Peter Nussbaum, I love you. | ||
| Shout out to Peter Nussbaum. | ||
| Peter Nussbaum, my lawyer. | ||
| He's not a criminal attorney. | ||
| So, you coming to the fights this weekend? | ||
| I was invited. | ||
| I was like, hopefully we get along and have a fucking dope conversation. | ||
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We did. | |
| We got along. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| Dude, I have massive respect. | ||
| You know, Brian's a crazy motherfucker. | ||
| I tell a story. | ||
| You know, that whole school down there was a fun. | ||
| I wanted to tell a story about Brian. | ||
| Brian Callum? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| So, I used to take... | ||
| Tony Ortiz is one of the senior students of Master Choi. | ||
| Another guy, we'll call him Chuck, but he's with the government now. | ||
| He's a fucking bad motherfucker. | ||
| So, they always used to go around and want to fight bouncers and all this shit. | ||
| That was what they did. | ||
| They would fucking fight the biggest... | ||
| Scariest looking motherfuckers and just destroyed him. | ||
| So, Blue worked... | ||
| I said his name, sorry. | ||
| My friend worked with Cro-Mags and stuff. | ||
| We took him out security with us in case we had problems or whatever. | ||
| So, it was like... | ||
| Everything always went smooth. | ||
| So, one time... | ||
| I used to work at all the underground hip-hop clubs in New York. | ||
| So, my friend was doing a party. | ||
| And it was all fucking deep Brooklyn heads, fucking like homeboys and shit. | ||
| Like the real deal, this hip-hop club. | ||
| And I take Brian, another dude from the school, and Tony. | ||
| And we go over there. | ||
| And Brian is in the middle of the fucking dance floor. | ||
| Doing the funky fucking white boy nerd dance. | ||
| And all these fucking... | ||
| And the floor just opens up in these fucking... | ||
| Black fucking hip-hop crazy fucking homeboys are like, yo, look at this motherfucking white boy. | ||
| Like, it's bugging. | ||
| And he don't give a fuck. | ||
| He's seriously like a fucking pisser to roll with. | ||
| So then I'm like, yo, I gotta go. | ||
| But listen, man, I know what y'all motherfuckers do. | ||
| Don't start no shit. | ||
| Please. | ||
| It's my friend's club. | ||
| So I get home, go to sleep, wake up the next day, get a fucking phone call. | ||
| Yo! | ||
| He didn't know that they were with me. | ||
| He's like, yo, there was these three fucking karate experts in the club last night and they beat up all my fucking bouncers, dude. | ||
| It was fucking crazy. | ||
| And one bouncer walked up and started some shit with Tony was trying to talk to a girl or whatever. | ||
| And then this guy, he's all on the juice, rips off his shirt like, ah! | ||
| Fucking Tony throws a kick, fucking dislocates the guy's fucking kneecap, and then the melee just ensued, and it was just constant, these fucking huge bouncers coming at him, and Brian's like, bah, bah, bah, fucking, Brian could fight. | ||
| Brian is, you know, he's a comedian, but he could throw down. | ||
| And then Brian just told me this, because I didn't hear the other part. | ||
| He goes, yeah. | ||
| Then all of a sudden, I'm fucking whacking these dudes and us, we're fighting these guys. | ||
| And then this fucking gigantic motherfucker, like... | ||
| I was just like a little fucking baby in his arms, lifts me up and carries me out the fucking door and throws me across this car. | ||
| And I look and I turn around and I'm ready to go and then Brian says and I look and it's this fucking crazy white dude with a fucking scar. | ||
| From one end of his face down his throat and he points at Brian and goes, don't even think about it. | ||
| And like, Brian was like, yo. | ||
| But my friend called me up the next day. | ||
| He's like, these motherfuckers. | ||
| And I call him up and I'm like, Brian, the fuck did you do, man? | ||
| I told you guys to fucking keep chill. | ||
| He's like, yo, these bouncers were assholes. | ||
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You know, he's a character. | |
| Like I said, I was at his first comedy show ever. | ||
| He lived a wilder life in his young days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I met him after all that stuff. | ||
| I met him when he was more calm. | ||
| I met him in the 90s. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, they were in big time. | ||
| Master Choi was all about fucking getting out there and fucking contact. | ||
| There was a lot of martial arts coaches, instructors that wanted you to get in street fights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you would practice. | ||
| Because, like, street fights would show you how things would work in the real world. | ||
| And the more you did it, the more you understood urgency, closing the distance, you know, delivering the first strike, all that kind of shit. | ||
| Like, people were hesitant. | ||
| Because in sparring, you always hold back. | ||
| So, like, you know, I knew many martial arts structures. | ||
| You come from a Taekwondo background, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's what started, yeah. | ||
| Because Brian told me that about you. | ||
| He goes, yo, that guy kicks like a fucking horse and shit. | ||
| Because I would see you on Fear Factor. | ||
| Were you on something before that, too? | ||
| News Radio? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And he's like, yeah, I know him. | ||
| That's my dude, man. | ||
| He's like, yo, you would fucking bend the bag in half. | ||
| So, you know, respect for that. | ||
| You know, from... | ||
| I was like, that's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Listen, we're going to have some fun this weekend. | ||
| The fight's going to be awesome. | ||
| It's a sick card. | ||
| Saturday night at the Staples Center. | ||
| You know I've been following the UFC since day one. | ||
| And originally, when that first came around, it was the Gracies that put a fucking... | ||
| They took out an ad in karate magazines. | ||
| And they said, we will pay anybody $100,000 if they can beat us. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I saw UFC 1 with Remco, Pardo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, I've been watching that shit since day one. | ||
| Have you been to a live one? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, perfect. | ||
| I went to Douglas Crosby, who was a judge. | ||
| Yeah, I know him very well. | ||
| Doug's my man. | ||
| Doug worked with the Cro-Mags. | ||
| Took me to some fights and stuff in Jersey. | ||
| Actually, I did go to a live one. | ||
| Jake from Rocks Off took me to the UFC when it was in Newark. | ||
| And there was fucking fights breaking out. | ||
| What year was this? | ||
| This was probably like four or five years ago. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| In Newark. | ||
| They had a UFC in Newark and I went to that. | ||
| There was a fight on the main floor that was the best fight of the night. | ||
| These two fucking guys just started... | ||
| And then when you left, everyone was like, yo, come to my fucking MMA school. | ||
| Every fucking Mama Luke got a school and a flyer. | ||
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Yeah, that's how it is. | |
| I love the fights. | ||
| I've been watching the boxing matches since the 70s, all the super fights. | ||
| Fucking Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton and fucking, what was the great one? | ||
| Hagler Hearns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm trying to get Marvin Hagler on the podcast. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| You know, he's like the only guy that retired clean. | ||
| He's like, I'm good. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Lost to Sugar Ray Leonard. | ||
| Lost a decision that a lot of people thought he should have won. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that fight. | ||
| He's like this. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Walked away. | ||
| No one ever done that. | ||
| Tommy the Hitman Hearns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Boxing used to be like... | ||
| You know, I just posted a picture of Mike Tyson, Jake LaMotta, and fucking Graziano on my Instagram. | ||
| Like those three. | ||
| Because my father boxed at Gramercy Gym, which was run by Custom Auto, which they knocked it down. | ||
| It was right near the Palladium and all that. | ||
| So you had Julian's Billiards, which I do a walk-in tour in New York. | ||
| It's coming out on Fox. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I've seen that before. | ||
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You ever come in the city, man, I'll give you a fuck of the three-hour tour. | |
| You ever come to the city, I'll give you a private one, but it's like, it's been all over. | ||
| I've been on the Today Show, Sunday Today Show, The Times, fucking, it's like the best underground fucking walk-in tour of crime, music, and history on the Lower East Side. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| We go by where the Palladium was, where the Clash, September 21st, the cover of the Clash, London Calling was shot there, Paul Simmon on smash and his bass. | ||
| He had Julian's Billiards right there, all the fucking pool hall hustlers. | ||
| And before the Palladium, it was called the Academy of Music, Dizzy Gillespie, everybody played there. | ||
| And then up the street from that was Customato's gym called the Gramercy Gym. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
| And everybody, Floyd Patterson, Ford, out of there. | ||
| If you pull up pictures of Gramercy Gym, you can see there's a picture, and Floyd Patterson's working the speed bag. | ||
| And when that closed, I was just walking by one day, and I was with my mom, and she goes, your father, because P.C. Richards took over the space, and they put a plaque, and it said this is where Custom Models Gym, we train, what is it, Jose Torres, the world champions, and all these weight classes. | ||
| And my mother just goes, oh, your father boxed it. | ||
| I say, what? | ||
| And there it is. | ||
| Look how they spell Gramercy, too. | ||
| G-R-A. They spelt it wrong. | ||
| Gramercy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| They spelled the name of the gym wrong. | ||
| Is that Floyd Patterson? | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| Who the fuck is that? | ||
| It looks, yeah. | ||
| I think it is Floyd Patterson. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Old school. | ||
| Yeah, so we do this whole thing. | ||
| We go to... | ||
| Tony Danza. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Yeah, he took some shots, huh? | ||
| Tony Danza could box. | ||
| He could fucking... | ||
| I saw some of his fights. | ||
| Yeah, he could box. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and then we go by Irving Plaza with John Belushi. | ||
| That sounds like a lot of fun. | ||
| Dude, it's fucking... | ||
| Three hours. | ||
| Listen, I had these four old Israeli ladies come, right? | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| And all the tours meet in this area, and they're like, we're here for the tour. | ||
| I said, I think you'll want the food tour over there. | ||
| They're like... | ||
| They show me their tickets. | ||
| They're like... | ||
| They're like in their 60s from Israel. | ||
| They're like, no, we're here for the crime tour, and... | ||
| They fucking did the whole three hours. | ||
| They're like, that was fascinating. | ||
| So in New York, and Steve Lacey just text me, so I'll tell you what the fuck it is. | ||
| Hold on here. | ||
| You do these on a regular basis, right? | ||
| Every week when I'm in New York. | ||
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Every week? | |
| Every Sunday. | ||
| So Steve Lacey just text me. | ||
| Where the fuck is it when you need it? | ||
| How do you have the time to do all these things? | ||
| Dude, man, you know, I get to bed early. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| So if you're in New York City, August 25th, 6.30 on Fox, it's called When New York Rocked. | ||
| Rocks off, rock and roll history, walking tours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| And the press is underneath it. | ||
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That's fucking cool. | |
| Yeah, so we go to everywhere. | ||
| We go to fucking the Five Points. | ||
| And I've had more press. | ||
| This is actually old. | ||
| Do you get a kick out of doing this? | ||
| Is it fun for you? | ||
| I fucking love it. | ||
| You do it for fun? | ||
| Because every week, and I'll tell you, every week, you run into these motherfuckers on the street from the old days. | ||
| And I don't usually... | ||
| It's just something about it. | ||
| I'll fucking do the tour. | ||
| Like, we ran into Mick Jones from The Clash or whoever. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Dude, we run it and nobody knew because he had a suit on. | ||
| I was like, y'all motherfuckers know who that is? | ||
| Nobody knew it was Mick Jones. | ||
| I said, yo, Mick! | ||
| Come on. | ||
| He's like, oh, you know, I was like, listen, I was one of the ones rioting in 81 when you played Bonds. | ||
| If you go to the video Clash on Broadway, I was there rioting because they oversold the club. | ||
| And Mayor Koch ordered the promoter and the Clash to do enough shows. | ||
| It's called the Clash on Broadway on YouTube. | ||
| And they ordered the Clash to do enough shows. | ||
| And the promoter sold something like, I think it was Clash. | ||
| I don't know, something like 20,000 tickets for a venue that held 2,500. | ||
| So you had close to 20,000 punk rockers show up in Times Square. | ||
| The fire department closes the fucking club down, and there's a riot in Times Square. | ||
| Now, I'm AWAR at the time. | ||
| I'm smashing motherfucking windows. | ||
| They stop traffic. | ||
| I'm running on cabs. | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| And then I start seeing people getting arrested. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
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Let me get the fuck out of here. | |
| It's time to go. | ||
| And then Saturday Night Live, I was on that when Fear played. | ||
| John Belushi used to come to all the punk rock shows. | ||
| So we go to all the venues and the famous murder spots. | ||
| I lived in a building with the East Village butcher, Daniel Rakowitz. | ||
| He chopped up his girlfriend, made soup out of her and fed her to the homeless. | ||
| I lived in that building. | ||
| That was 700 East 9th. | ||
| I squatted in that building. | ||
| So it's all these famous... | ||
| The murder of Abe Lieberwald who owns 2nd Avenue Deli. | ||
| And famous movies. | ||
| Then we go to the smuggling tunnels of Prohibition. | ||
| A lot of shit you saw on Bulwark Empire. | ||
| So it's a pretty fascinating tour. | ||
| And I always... | ||
| The first time I did it... | ||
| And I'll just leave you this. | ||
| It was really funny because I had... | ||
| 40 people and some of them were from Germany. | ||
| So I'm going down and fucking... | ||
| We go down to Avenue B and I'm like, yeah, there was a big fucking drug spot here. | ||
| So this huge black dude I know, he just got out of prison. | ||
| He's like fucking 6'5", keloid scar across his face. | ||
| He's like, yo, what's up, man? | ||
| What the fuck you doing, man? | ||
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What's up? | |
| I ain't seen you in a minute. | ||
| I was like, oh, I do this tour. | ||
| You know, these are all tourists. | ||
| I'm taking them around to all the drug spots and letting them know about the crime. | ||
| He's like, word. | ||
| So he gets up on the curb. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| Huge dude, you know, prison bill. | ||
| He's like, let me tell y'all motherfuckers something right now. | ||
| Y'all better listen to this man, because none of y'all motherfuckers would have come down here back in the day. | ||
| I would have fucking robbed all you, cut your fucking throat, taken your sneakers, everything. | ||
| And they were like... | ||
| And then he's like, yo, peace, my man. | ||
| I'll see you around, blood clot. | ||
| And they're like, you heard these Germans go, oh my God, that guy was fucking crazy. | ||
| So you would see all... | ||
| Authentic. | ||
| Dude, you can't make this shit up. | ||
| I gotta wrap this up. | ||
| I gotta get out of here. | ||
| John Joseph, thank you very much, brother. | ||
| Thank you very, very much, man. | ||
| We're gonna have some fun this weekend, too. | ||
| Bye, everybody. | ||
| I'll be back tomorrow with Mark Dellegrate. |
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