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June 22, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1134 - Kyle Dunnigan
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joe rogan
Four, three, two, one.
Kyle Donegan, ladies and gentlemen!
That's right, baby.
Headphones or no headphones?
kyle dunnigan
Oh, sure, headphones.
joe rogan
Grab them, right there.
Be a goddamn professional, sir.
Yeah, baby.
Where'd you get that?
unidentified
Yeah, baby.
kyle dunnigan
Well, I just noticed she answers herself.
joe rogan
I like how you say she.
kyle dunnigan
I like that.
I'm very politically correct.
unidentified
But she'll be like, yeah, so I went and I bought some Jimmy Choo's, yeah, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
And I called my sister, yeah.
So she's like, I think she spends a lot of time alone, maybe, and she's answering herself.
joe rogan
What is going on with her voice?
Because she didn't have that voice when she was Bruce.
It's a different voice.
kyle dunnigan
Is it?
I thought it was pretty similar.
It's like, what's different?
It's a little higher or something?
joe rogan
It's like numb.
Like her face is numb.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, her face.
joe rogan
Yeah, baby!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Well, Bruce was...
I thought she was, did you see her show, I Am Kate?
unidentified
No.
kyle dunnigan
She had like a reality show, which bombed.
I mean, how much of a boring person do you have to be when, I mean, how interesting is like an ex-Olympic athlete turns into a woman and you're so boring, still no one wants to see that show.
joe rogan
Yeah, she needed a better producer.
Seems like you could put her in interesting situations.
That show could go on forever.
kyle dunnigan
She was boring.
Like, I watched it.
I tried to watch it.
It was boring.
joe rogan
God, I feel like there's...
I just feel like they missed the formula.
Like, that is a fascinating situation.
Someone who waits until they're 60 years old and then becomes a man.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, how could that show not do well?
How could it?
I think what happened was she wasn't open about her transition.
It wasn't about that.
joe rogan
Oh.
unidentified
She didn't really talk about what was interesting.
joe rogan
You know, she doesn't believe in gay marriage.
unidentified
That's when I was on her side.
kyle dunnigan
And I was like, yeah, she's a supporter.
Yeah, why not?
I mean, what?
How?
joe rogan
She said, well, I'm kind of a traditionalist.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I'm a traditional girl, yeah.
And Ellen is a very, maybe one of the wittiest people, you know, very witty, and she went like this, well, how?
She was completely lost for words.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Because it makes no sense.
joe rogan
Well, Ellen held her feet to the fire, and their big feet.
She burned those feet.
unidentified
I held my 17 Jimmy Choo to the fire, baby.
joe rogan
She's got to order those custom, right?
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
There's no way around it.
unidentified
Sure.
kyle dunnigan
For her to be against any group that she knows what it feels like to be shunned or unbelievable.
joe rogan
It's just crazy.
She's just decided that she's a woman.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
A Republican woman.
unidentified
And she's like, ew, lesbians grow.
joe rogan
But she's a lesbian now.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, but now I date men, baby.
joe rogan
Does she?
kyle dunnigan
Or she's dating a trans...
joe rogan
Jesus.
unidentified
I'm so confused.
kyle dunnigan
I'm exhausted.
joe rogan
What is happening?
Imagine if you were a man, okay, and then you became a woman and you dated a woman who became a man.
What in the fuck is happening?
You're like one of those yin-yangs spinning through space.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, and then you're like, gay marriage is gross.
Like, I'm gonna judge that.
They need to cut her brain open and figure out what's going on.
joe rogan
There's a lot of confusion and a lot of wanting to fit in and a lot of, you know...
It just doesn't make any sense.
kyle dunnigan
And I really like people going through that, and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
I really just think she's kind of an asshole.
joe rogan
Oh, this is her girlfriend.
So the girlfriend used to be a boy, too?
Yes.
unidentified
Fascinating.
kyle dunnigan
That is, wow.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Girlfriend used to be a boy.
That's what she used to look like?
Oh, Christ.
The world is so strange.
kyle dunnigan
And then she's like, I just, she's not a great person.
I mean, she killed that lady with her car and then said nothing.
That was the weird thing.
Did you see the footage?
joe rogan
No.
kyle dunnigan
It looks completely like her fault.
She bumped into this lady who was stopped and the lady went across traffic and died.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And no one talked about it.
unidentified
She was like, I was, you know, putting on some of my land comb in the mirror.
kyle dunnigan
Didn't share.
joe rogan
Is that what she said?
kyle dunnigan
No.
joe rogan
I think she was looking at her phone.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't want to see this.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
joe rogan
I'm going to feel bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some poor lady died and no one gives a fuck because the story is not that.
The story is she's a woman now.
She's always been a woman.
She's always been a woman.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, it was good timing for her because people like ignored that and sort of went...
joe rogan
Well, crazy timing.
kyle dunnigan
That was Brouche!
joe rogan
Yeah.
That video that you did of that.
Why did you start doing these videos?
kyle dunnigan
I'll tell you, I was having like midlife crisis panic, waking up at three in the morning, like moments.
I was writing for the show, this was last year, and it was a great job.
Everyone was really nice.
And something in my subconscious felt like, I don't know, like I had to get out and I quit the job.
And I was like, I'm just going to make...
Videos on Instagram.
What a great business move.
Let me lose my health insurance and make videos for free on Instagram.
joe rogan
Dude, you have the funniest page on Instagram.
kyle dunnigan
Well, thank you.
joe rogan
I haven't seen them all, but all the ones I've seen, without a doubt, you have the funniest page.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, thank you very, very much.
I mean, I went because of you from like 20,000 now, like 240 something.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
kyle dunnigan
Because of you and Tom Segura and Bill Burr also like pumped it up.
joe rogan
It's just how good they are, man.
It's viral.
Once people watch a few of those.
Dude, the one that you did where she was describing the different utensils that she uses to get herself off with.
The Weed Whacker and all these.
Oh my God.
Dude.
Oh.
unidentified
Yeah!
I'm close!
kyle dunnigan
Come on, girls!
Ask my girls to help me out.
unidentified
Gotta finish.
joe rogan
When did you start doing the face swap thing?
Are you using an Instagram filter?
unidentified
Yeah, there's an app.
kyle dunnigan
There's a face swap app you can download.
And there's one for the Trump.
I was doing Trump at first and I don't look anything like him.
So this was like a way to do a character and have a kind of baby.
unidentified
That jumps in Stormy Daniels once.
kyle dunnigan
Terrific!
Stormy!
How'd you get my number?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
The other one that made me cry was Kim Kardashian and Trump when Kim couldn't figure out how to open up the door and just buzzer it.
unidentified
Wait for the buzzer!
kyle dunnigan
There's the weird buzzing noise.
unidentified
Yeah, that's when you push it.
kyle dunnigan
Those take so long.
I don't think anyone spends as much time making videos for Instagram.
unidentified
It's Kim K. I'm at the side door.
Okay, I'll push you in.
kyle dunnigan
The door is closed.
unidentified
Yeah, you gotta push it.
It's locked.
Yeah, wait until I buzz you.
Okay, push it.
kyle dunnigan
Why didn't you open it?
There was a weird buzzing noise.
unidentified
Yeah, that means open the door.
It's a lock.
You have to wait until I buzz you, Jesus Christ.
Go!
But I just got here.
No, go in the door!
kyle dunnigan
But I can't go in the door.
unidentified
It's a solid.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
unidentified
No offense, but this would have been a lot funnier if I was in it.
Yeah, baby!
kyle dunnigan
So that's what I do with my time.
I'm a grown man.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're an actual full grown man.
kyle dunnigan
I'm an old grown man.
I'm a man boy.
joe rogan
So you really just decided to start doing these full time?
kyle dunnigan
It wasn't even like a brave decision or anything.
I really couldn't sleep.
I was having panic attacks.
I think I saw my future and it was like, I'm going to be a writer and writing for people for the rest of my life.
You get addicted to the money and the insurance and all that.
joe rogan
It happens to so many comics.
kyle dunnigan
It happens like, and I heard about it and I didn't see it coming.
And it just, I suddenly woke up last summer and I'm like, I have to stop or I'll do this forever.
joe rogan
There are a few friends of mine who are really, really funny comics and they can't work.
Because they spent so many years doing sitcoms as a writer, or doing sketch shows as a writer, that they don't have a following.
They don't have a following in the road, but they're world-class comedians.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know Owen Smith?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's fucking hilarious.
Nobody knows who he is.
I'm like, dude, you're one of the 20 best comics in the world.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's crazy.
kyle dunnigan
It doesn't make any sense.
And super nice guy, too.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
Ian Edwards, same shit.
I mean, more people know Ian now than before, but...
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
It's a trap.
It's a fucking trap.
kyle dunnigan
You've only so much creative energy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
And if you're giving it to someone else, you're done.
joe rogan
It's not just that.
You're tired all day, you're stuck in an office, and then you have to go on the road.
Like, if you want to be a comic, you have to do sets multiple times a week, and you've got to go on the road.
It's just the way it is.
There's no way around it.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no other way to do it.
kyle dunnigan
If you get in your 50s, and you're not famous, you don't have a decent following, like, you're fucked.
You're screwed.
joe rogan
You're fucked.
Yeah, you're fucked.
Unless you're Ron White.
Like, Ron White got famous in his late 40s.
He was living in Mexico in his 40s.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Like, done.
And then Jeff Foxworthy contacted him, and they started doing that blue-collar comedy tour.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Now he's got a private jet balling out of control.
Big fat house in Beverly Hills.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Sweet!
unidentified
Woo!
Woo!
kyle dunnigan
Rodney Dangerfield, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he quit.
He quit doing stand-up.
Was selling aluminum siding.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
And then came back.
But the entire time he was away, he was writing.
Which is really crazy.
So he came back with a fuckload of material.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And also came back with a sharper style.
Like came back more edited, more precise.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and that's where it changed.
kyle dunnigan
I feel like, I can't believe how old I got.
Like, you don't notice it.
If anyone's listening, they're like in their 20s.
joe rogan
How old are you?
kyle dunnigan
I'm 40. I just turned 47. I'm 50. Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's real.
kyle dunnigan
You're a little further along than me career-wise, so I'm not as worried about you.
You don't wake up with night terrors, do you?
joe rogan
But you did, huh?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I really did.
There's certain moments, you don't think about being old, but like, you know when you put your date of birth in online to buy something?
That scroll?
unidentified
Zing, zing!
kyle dunnigan
I'm scrolling forever.
Your whole life going by.
joe rogan
You were born in 70?
kyle dunnigan
71. Yeah, it's a good year for cars.
You're the pig.
joe rogan
Last good year for cars.
kyle dunnigan
Is that true?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
What about a Tesla?
You hate Teslas?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I mean muscle cars.
Oh, muscle cars.
Like American muscle cars.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like the 1960s to 1971. 1971 was essentially the last good year for cars.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
We like muscle.
Me and Joe are both ripped.
joe rogan
Both ripped to shit.
But, you know, those classic American cars.
There was a few years where they were unbelievably cool.
And then after like 71, they fell apart.
unidentified
So you just caught it at the perfect time.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, that's what I'm known for, being born right at the end of muscle cars.
joe rogan
The 71 Barracuda.
That was probably the last.
kyle dunnigan
You're a big car guy, huh?
joe rogan
I love cars.
kyle dunnigan
I do too, but I drive a Honda Civic because that's what I can afford.
joe rogan
Well, I had a Honda Civic once, too.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're great.
They start up every time you need them to.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I've had it for 15 years.
joe rogan
They're the fucking shit, those cars.
Every time you put that key in, there's no confusion.
kyle dunnigan
There's no problem.
joe rogan
There's no worry.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
No anticipation.
Come on, baby.
Come on, baby.
kyle dunnigan
I treat it like crap, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Those things are bulletproof.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
They last forever.
I love Toyotas.
I have a Lexus.
I love those things.
They never fuck up.
kyle dunnigan
I'm on the waiting list for the Lexus.
joe rogan
Hmm.
kyle dunnigan
No, I'm sorry.
Tesla.
joe rogan
Oh, which one?
The three?
kyle dunnigan
The new, the cheaper one.
joe rogan
The three, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Three.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
But it's still, like, suspiciously expensive.
joe rogan
Do you see what's going on with Tesla and the former employee?
Some employee was sabotaging code and leaking information, and now the employee is saying...
That, you know, trying to say something about Elon Musk, there was waste that he was a whistleblower.
He's not saying he's a sabotage, he's a whistleblower.
But they were saying he's a disgruntled employee because he owed money.
It's become this gigantic thing, and Elon Musk is suing this guy.
kyle dunnigan
Stealing code and then selling it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know the exact specifics of it.
But he did something.
He did something bad.
I don't know.
kyle dunnigan
We hate that guy.
We don't like them.
Well, that car is like, it's like, it's $35,000.
But if you want tires, it's $45,000.
joe rogan
Oh, is it one of those deals?
You can get it up to $75,000, right?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, if you want.
Tesla, you know.
I just need, I need money.
I'm thinking of starting a fund so I can get a Tesla.
You know, people have like charity, like GoFundMe's.
joe rogan
You should have a Patreon, where you just commit to doing one of those videos every X amount of days.
kyle dunnigan
I'm hearing about that.
I gotta get into the business side of things, but...
joe rogan
Well, that's the problem, is creative people rarely are business-minded.
kyle dunnigan
I'm spending like $400 a month on just phone calls I'm not making to like AT&T and stuff.
I need to, like, get my business side in order.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
kyle dunnigan
You know, like, you keep...
You get a subscription to something you don't use anymore, and then you can't figure out how to cancel it.
Like, oh, that's happening in my life.
unidentified
Oh.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what they want.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
They're good at that.
joe rogan
They want to make it difficult for you to quit.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, like, they'll go, hey, have these vitamins.
You have one month free.
And then before you get the vitamins, you have to cancel in order to stop the next month from being charged.
You see what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I'm up on my petard right now.
Let's move on.
Sorry.
joe rogan
No, it's okay.
I get it.
Yeah, so when you do these videos How many how many hours you think are involved in like like the Kanye one the one the most recent which is fucking hilarious.
kyle dunnigan
Thank you.
I I've gotten quicker at them, but it still takes an inordinate amount of time Probably because there's like I get the idea and like I'll write something quick and then like I'll sleep on it and then like I'll work out more try to edit it down because you want to make it like Pretty tight.
Online people don't want a minute of fluff or anything.
joe rogan
No, you gotta go quick.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, and the actual process of getting them to talk, I'll take the person who talks the most, like if it's Caitlin, and I'll film that, and I'll have the whole script written out.
So as I film it, in my mouth, I'll talk the other words, so the timing is kind of close enough.
And then I'll send that video to myself, to my...
I'll airdrop it to my laptop and turn it really low.
And then I'll do the next character and have that playing so I can have that synced up right.
And I pair those and do the next person like that.
joe rogan
Whoa.
kyle dunnigan
Got a lot of time on my hands.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
But I'm only 47, so...
joe rogan
So what was the thought process when you quit?
You just couldn't do it?
You had to get out?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I just...
Something was like panicking.
It just was, I think, seeing my life and going, I want to at least try to be a performer is what I wanted to do.
I can't even read very well.
Being a writer to me is...
It's not as fun.
I mean, if I didn't have the experience before, I don't think I'd feel this way.
It's just, I got a taste.
I had some stuff that I did that I really enjoyed.
I think I just saw the The trappings of it.
joe rogan
Well, some people are really good writers, and that's what they want to do.
That's all they want to do.
They don't want to perform.
But the problem with being a good performer is sometimes you can help other people out.
Like, hey, maybe if you just tighten this up here, and maybe if you just explain this a little better, it would work better.
And you start writing.
The next thing you're like, hey, would you work on my show?
Sure.
And you're there in the office, and you've got a cork board, and you're putting index cards up, and you're like, oh my god.
And then you get that check every week, and you're like, that's a nice check.
kyle dunnigan
And I'm really thankful for those jobs, and they were really great.
I have a house and stuff.
Yeah, this is like last power drive, I think.
unidentified
Really?
Really?
joe rogan
Fuck it.
kyle dunnigan
If this doesn't work out with Instagram, I mean, just this, though, I'm really excited because now I can do little theaters.
The draw directly from Instagram has enabled me to get out of clubs and stuff.
joe rogan
So it worked.
kyle dunnigan
And I feel the audience.
I just did shows in San Francisco.
It's such a difference when the audience knows what you do and who you are.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Instead of having to take them through this.
joe rogan
Well, you might be one of the only guys that's done it that way, though, through characters in little short one-minute videos.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, because I started off with that, but then there was no money in sketch, really.
And so I got into stand-up because I needed to make money.
And so I never felt stand-up was what I did the best.
But now I feel like I'm getting a little better at stand-up, and I'm actually enjoying it more now.
But the characters and impressions is...
joe rogan
When you do shows, do you ever play videos?
Do you play videos?
kyle dunnigan
I did a show.
I have a show at Largo that I do every couple months, and I did show videos.
It was the owner's idea.
And that was, you know, really fun.
joe rogan
It's a great idea.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially if you make...
Some videos specific to the show?
kyle dunnigan
That's exactly...
I didn't do that, but watching it, I was like, that's what I should do.
Like, have Trump be like, next up!
unidentified
This guy's terrific.
kyle dunnigan
Believe me, or whatever it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Have him host.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then, you know, have Caitlyn Jenner's take on different things.
unidentified
Yeah, baby.
joe rogan
And just, you know, Caitlyn's tips.
unidentified
Caitlyn's tips.
kyle dunnigan
I did a thing where I brought her out in between.
She's working on her one-person show, was just the idea I had.
So I had that greatest love.
I had the audience surfed.
It was really fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you could do easily some sort of a multimedia presentation type thing.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
It seems like it would be a really great idea.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I'm trying to put together something to do some kind of special.
joe rogan
Yeah!
Oh, fuck yeah!
Yeah, just sandwich bits in between.
Do some stand-up and go...
I wonder...
I wonder what Stormy Daniels would do, or, you know, just, you could, anything, I mean, any weird way that you decide to transition.
Where'd you get the Stormy Daniels voice?
Does it sound anything like her?
kyle dunnigan
I have no idea how she talks.
I just thought she was like this.
unidentified
Oh, can't wait to get your cock in my mouth again.
joe rogan
When she's calling Trump up.
kyle dunnigan
She actually sounds nothing like that.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
But it doesn't matter.
kyle dunnigan
But she seems like she talks like this.
I'm stormy.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
There was one that you did that looked like your face.
kyle dunnigan
Jared Kushner.
unidentified
Was that it?
kyle dunnigan
He's a little bit like me.
He's like...
joe rogan
But all of them are face-swapped.
None of them are you.
kyle dunnigan
I do a character, Craig, that's like...
joe rogan
Oh, that guy with the glasses?
kyle dunnigan
Like, ma'am!
unidentified
Chicken mat.
kyle dunnigan
That's my real mom.
joe rogan
Really?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
kyle dunnigan
She's a good actress.
The first take, she didn't know what I was doing, and that was real and honest, but after that, she knew she was acting.
unidentified
She's really good.
kyle dunnigan
It seems very good.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It seems like you're annoying the shit out of your mom.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's very funny.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, when you decided to do this, there's no...
I mean, unless you're a hot chick selling whatever.
What do they sell?
Sunglasses or some shit?
unidentified
Makeup.
joe rogan
Skinny tea?
Detox tea?
kyle dunnigan
Skinny tea.
joe rogan
Yeah, unless you're...
I've never made a fucking penny off of Instagram.
kyle dunnigan
Neither have I. You haven't either?
Well, I've actually just...
Ticket sales I have, I guess.
joe rogan
Right, right, right, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
But yeah, I haven't monetized or...
I haven't been thinking about that.
I just kind of...
I feel good if people like it.
It just makes me feel like I have some purpose or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I feel like I've done something.
And building...
If I could build an audience and come to my shows, I'll be really happy about that.
joe rogan
So you were doing mostly clubs before and now you're moving into theaters?
Is that what's going on?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And this is all over the last few months?
kyle dunnigan
100% from Instagram.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
kyle dunnigan
It is.
joe rogan
So it worked.
You're a success story.
kyle dunnigan
Well, I mean...
It's working.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's fucking great.
kyle dunnigan
It's really exciting, and thank you again.
unidentified
My pleasure, dude.
kyle dunnigan
You're my personal Santa Claus.
joe rogan
Dude, my fucking whole family's so sick of watching your videos.
My wife got angry the other day.
She was in the toilet, and I was like, just watch.
I opened the door, I go, just watch this.
Watch this one.
Watch this one, because it was the Kanye West one.
I was crying.
She's like, what the fuck are you laughing at?
And I was like, watch this.
Just watch this.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, Kanye West, my worst impression.
Dude, it was great.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
It was amazing.
It was amazing.
When Caitlin's like, shut the fuck up, Kim.
He's a genius.
kyle dunnigan
Shut the fuck up, Kim.
It's a genius at work.
joe rogan
Yeah, Kim.
Oh, the other one.
The other one about the baby dying in her womb.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
She's preggers.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I'm pregnant, too.
joe rogan
Babies can breathe in their womb.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I shoved him up my new vag.
joe rogan
Dad, do you have a womb?
unidentified
Oh, shit!
kyle dunnigan
Let me go crap this out.
It's probably dead.
joe rogan
But then they go immediately to the lipstick.
It's just so perfect.
Because, like...
Instagram, it's almost like you have optimized Instagram better than anybody.
You really have nailed it.
You've nailed it for comedy.
Because everybody else, like mine included, if you go to my Instagram, you have to fucking dig to find out I'm a comedian.
And you gotta go looking around.
You can find anything there.
All kinds of stuff.
I just take a picture.
I find a picture.
I think it's cool.
I put it up there.
There's no rhyme or reason.
Yours is like a show.
Like your Instagram page, KyleDunigan1.com.
kyle dunnigan
You gotta go to Kyle Dunnigan 1. There was a Kyle Dunnigan.
He's gotten all my Gmail accounts.
He grabbed everything.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
kyle dunnigan
And I asked my nephew, I'm like, what should I do?
Because over Christmas, I'm like, I'm just going to do Instagram videos and see what happens.
And I was like, what should I do different?
And he's like, you should take the one out.
That's stupid.
unidentified
Yeah, the one's stupid.
kyle dunnigan
The kids' ones are...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's stupid.
Why'd you go with one?
kyle dunnigan
You can't change it now, though.
How about the real Kyle Dunnigan?
That's the thing.
Marketing is not my thing.
I am Kyle Dunnigan.
That's another one.
joe rogan
That's another one.
People do that.
kyle dunnigan
Kyle Dunnigan comedy would have been fine.
joe rogan
That's a good one.
kyle dunnigan
That's a lot of words.
joe rogan
A lot of letters.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I think Instagram is in my wheelhouse.
I like to edit.
I like to do quick...
You know, stuff.
joe rogan
No, it's perfect.
But your channel, your page, is like a channel.
Unlike most people's Instagram pages.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I treat it like a show.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is like a show.
It's almost like you should have a regular Instagram.
Nah, you shouldn't even.
You just keep doing what you're doing.
jamie vernon
You don't have as long-form videos now for Instagram TV. You can go up to an hour.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's right, but I think what he's doing is perfect.
Instagram TV. Yeah, it's a new thing.
unidentified
It just came out.
kyle dunnigan
Oh boy.
unidentified
Oh boy.
kyle dunnigan
I just got a panic attack.
joe rogan
Thinking about doing Caitlin for an hour.
unidentified
45 more minutes, everybody!
Oh shit!
kyle dunnigan
I just spilled coffee all over the studio.
joe rogan
It's okay, you're not the first.
I do it all the time.
No laptops are anywhere near.
I killed a bunch of laptops, man.
That's another thing about Mac that pisses me off.
Guess what?
Lenovo, you spill on it, nothing happens.
Nothing.
They make them waterproof.
They make them dust resistant.
They make them mil-spec.
You can spill on them.
You can throw a glass of water on the keyboard.
Not a goddamn thing happens.
You put one on Apple, they just tell you, nope, you're gonna need a new one.
unidentified
Need a new one.
Don't blow on it.
kyle dunnigan
We need a lot more napkins.
joe rogan
It's okay.
If you sneeze on it, it'll blow out.
Sons of bitches.
Wanna go grab some napkins?
Hey, grab a couple of those Kill Cliffs, those lime ones.
kyle dunnigan
I'm very uncoordinated.
joe rogan
Dude, you're not.
I do this all the time.
I'm pretty coordinated, and I fucking spill coffee in here all the time.
You know, your microphones are in front of you, you start moving your hands.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I'm Italian, so I put my hands a lot when I talk.
unidentified
I got a lot of fucking this.
joe rogan
I'm doing a lot of moving with my hands.
kyle dunnigan
What is your background?
joe rogan
Mostly Italian, one quarter Irish.
kyle dunnigan
I'm the same thing.
joe rogan
Shut the What the fuck up, bro?
kyle dunnigan
Irish and Italian people are cool.
joe rogan
That's crazy, man.
kyle dunnigan
Did you do 23andMe?
I did that.
joe rogan
No, but I'm doing it right now, and I'm doing a bit about it because I'm secretly hoping that someone in my past had sex with a black person.
kyle dunnigan
I have 2.7 African.
joe rogan
Percent?
Really?
Nice.
kyle dunnigan
But I think it's Northern African.
joe rogan
I'll take it.
I'll take it, and I'm going to run with it.
It'll open up a whole new realm of material.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, right.
Just bring your 23andMe.
I'm tired of white people.
joe rogan
I'm gonna start shitting on white people.
kyle dunnigan
It's so hard to be a white guy.
That's the hardest thing to be as a white man.
You have no one to blame, you know?
joe rogan
That's true.
kyle dunnigan
It's your fault.
joe rogan
But it's also the easiest thing to be.
kyle dunnigan
Of course.
I'm just kidding.
unidentified
It's both.
joe rogan
No, I know.
You're kidding.
You don't have to say you're kidding.
You're a fucking comedian.
How dare you?
You're still cleaning.
You don't have to clean anymore, man.
kyle dunnigan
I'm still cleaning.
joe rogan
Listen, the thing is, the more coffee that's on this table, the better it looks.
kyle dunnigan
It's gonna smell good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This thing's weathered.
This is a weathered table.
Here, give me that.
I'll chuck that in the garbage.
unidentified
All right.
kyle dunnigan
Thanks.
joe rogan
This coffee has character.
Or this table, rather.
Character.
kyle dunnigan
High maintenance.
joe rogan
No.
You're fine, dude.
So...
You've got to have some measure of satisfaction that this moment that you had...
See, I love stories like that.
Because you have this moment where you're like, I gotta do something.
I can't do this anymore.
And then you did, and it worked.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I'm sleeping a lot better.
I've been in this business for a long time, and there's been so many.
I could talk for nine hours about the disappointments, but I still feel lucky that I was able to make a living or whatever, but there's some luck involved.
I mean, I was lucky you came across it.
I mean, I've had so many...
joe rogan
I wish I knew who told me about you.
I wish I could remember.
It might have been Tom.
unidentified
Tom...
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, Tom probably was Tom.
He was pretty...
joe rogan
It was a comic.
Pretty sure it was a comic.
It might have been Tom.
kyle dunnigan
He was the first one to repost one of mine, I think.
joe rogan
Maybe that's what it was.
kyle dunnigan
I did this show.
Oh, I won't go into it.
joe rogan
What?
kyle dunnigan
I have so many disaster stories where I thought I was like, get ready for the rocket ship, Kyle.
You better go mansion shopping because things are about to take off.
And just always something.
I did this Jamie Foxx sketch show pilot.
To get a part on a network show, it's a lot of auditions.
You climb a mountain to get the role.
And I was feeling like this is my last shot and everything.
And I got there and we couldn't...
We weren't allowed to write for ourselves.
unidentified
What?
kyle dunnigan
It was a WGA rules or something.
And you have a character.
No one else can really write for it.
And the people that were writing...
Two of them just got out of prison and they were not comedy writers.
Like Jamie Foxx, he has a huge career.
He didn't really...
I think he just was like, let me give my friends this, because I got all this other stuff going on.
joe rogan
He just didn't give a fuck.
kyle dunnigan
He didn't need it.
No, he would show up like once a week.
joe rogan
No.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
unidentified
Really?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, he's busy.
And he'd come in with glasses...
We'd go and we'd read the script and there'd be no ending or seemingly point.
And then I remember one time he threw the script in the air and he was like, fuck the script!
Do you!
You do you!
You know, when he walked out and the executives were like, no, you can't do the script.
It was like that.
It was like you climb this mountain and there's an Arby's at the top.
Just like...
Oh, no!
These writers called me into their office once and they were like, yeah, we had this idea for these guys who never wrote a sketch before.
And they were like, this idea that you're Jimmy Bond.
You know James Bond?
You're Jimmy Bond, all right?
And you're in an airplane, right?
And like, take it, take it.
And the next guy would be like, yeah, and you order like a soda, like a Coca-Cola, or a Sprite, or like a Mountain Dew, or a Diet Coke.
And I'm like, uh-huh.
And then that was it.
And then I just was sitting there in dead silence like...
joe rogan
What?
kyle dunnigan
And then we had, like, this show, which came out very mediocre.
joe rogan
What was this sketch show?
When was this sketch show?
kyle dunnigan
What was it called?
It was called Into Flow.
It got changed to, like, something else.
And it just became, like, it was Afyon Crockett's show.
I was, like, a cast member or whatever.
And then at the end, you know, Fox pays all this, millions of dollars, and Afian's going, all Fox cares about is their wallets, but we showed them, not realizing we had to wait for a pickup, and I'm just standing on stage thinking this is my last shot to have anything, because I was already like 40, and I just was like...
Then we go to the wrap party, and the whole thing was just...
unidentified
Oh, what happened at the wrap party?
kyle dunnigan
Me and Eric Andre is on, too.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
kyle dunnigan
And so we just were like, what's happening?
And we go late to the wrap party, and we walk into this nice restaurant, and Jamie Foxx is standing up, and there's a whole big table, and he's going down, what's your favorite animal?
What's your favorite animal?
Everyone's like, goose.
I mean a rabbit!
Like, everyone's just, like, scared.
And then he goes, what's your second favorite animal?
What's your second favorite animal?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
kyle dunnigan
And everyone's just terrified.
unidentified
What the fuck?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
And then he goes, the first animal's who you think you are.
The second animal's who you really are.
I told Tom Cruise that, and he said it was awesome.
Anyway, it's Instagram.
Yeah, I'm gonna write a book one day just called Humiliated.
unidentified
About all my stories.
joe rogan
A long career of ground balls.
kyle dunnigan
I've had so many, like, where I really was going shopping for houses that had to stop.
joe rogan
Really?
kyle dunnigan
Like, several, like, I had this Pizza Hut campaign, which was like, get ready to, like, open up several bank accounts.
And it was like, the big New Yorker pizza!
You know, there's an explosion of flavors.
As we're shooting, this is a campaign of videos.
9-11 happened.
As we're shooting.
joe rogan
The explosion of flavors.
kyle dunnigan
And it was just the wrong vibe to be like, hey, New York, a big explosion of flavors!
And this whole thing.
And so they canceled the whole thing.
They played like, I don't know, for like a month they played a few and then they like dropped it.
But it was like...
You know, I shot four.
I got paid pretty well, but we were going to do six more.
It was going to be like one of those flow from Progressive.
joe rogan
You were going to be the Jared of Subway.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
For Pizza Hut.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You were going to be the Verizon Can You Hear Me Now guy.
kyle dunnigan
That's what I was waiting for.
joe rogan
I don't trust that guy anymore.
kyle dunnigan
No, I don't.
joe rogan
He switched over.
unidentified
He isn't.
joe rogan
Where's he at now?
Sprint.
kyle dunnigan
That's not cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't hear you as well.
kyle dunnigan
My mother walked into a pizza hut once while this campaign was happening, and she just pointed at me.
she was my son's pizza hut I had to tell him I'm actually not pizza hut Anyway, so...
I feel lucky, but...
joe rogan
But you found the thing.
Like, look, dude, your fucking videos make me howl.
They're really, really funny.
Like, that's...
unidentified
You...
joe rogan
For whatever it is, the way your mind works...
It works best for these face swap videos, which is fucked up, man, because it didn't exist until, like, when?
Was it like two years?
unidentified
How long ago?
joe rogan
How many years ago?
Three years ago?
I remember the first person I ever saw use it was Chris D'Elia.
D'Elia was, he did some video where he was Rick from The Walking Dead, and he put it on his Instagram page.
I was like, wow.
I'm like, obviously, I can tell something's going on, but that's amazing how close that is.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I was excited right away because I knew the impressions that I do, I don't look like most of them.
joe rogan
Dude, your trump is fucking phenomenal.
And when you do it with that wacky face, the one face that you picked for the face swap is so perfect because it looks like he's out of control.
kyle dunnigan
It looks like he's like, oh, Jesus.
What's happening here?
joe rogan
Fucking amazing, man!
kyle dunnigan
When are four years up?
joe rogan
It's amazing.
Did you see what's going on today?
Tom Arnold, who hates Trump, has a new show on Vice where he's just running around trying to find incriminating video and audio on Trump.
The whole show is him on a quest to find incriminating and humiliating video and audio on Trump.
And he was with Michael Cohen today.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yes.
kyle dunnigan
How could he...
joe rogan
Michael Cohen is apparently going to work with Tom Arnold on this show.
kyle dunnigan
Is the FBI okay with that?
I have no idea.
joe rogan
They were together in this photo.
I mean, Tom Arnold could be just bullshitting.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
Well, I'm Tevo-ing that.
That's coming out?
joe rogan
Tevo-ing.
You're still Tevo-ing.
kyle dunnigan
Who Tevo's anymore?
joe rogan
Why don't you just get out the VCR? Do you know how to work the clock?
kyle dunnigan
I know.
I had things come out of my mouth where it shows my age.
joe rogan
What is this, Jamie?
unidentified
This is a video on his Twitter.
joe rogan
This is the Miss Universe tape.
There's another tape.
unidentified
Talking about 16-year-old girls and their underwear here, okay?
joe rogan
The N-word tape?
Celebrity apprentices.
unidentified
Then Trump denies any involvement with prostitutes.
Don't worry.
joe rogan
Tom Arnold is on it.
unidentified
The hunt for the Trump tapes with Tom Arnold...
kyle dunnigan
I mean, no one's going to care, no matter what he...
It's not going to have an effect, probably.
joe rogan
Yeah, listen.
Fuck John Gotti.
Trump is a Teflon gun.
kyle dunnigan
You see that movie they're saying they scammed Rotten Tomatoes with that movie?
joe rogan
It's supposed to be the greatest bad movie of all time.
kyle dunnigan
Well, it got a zero from critics, and an 80 from the audience, and, like, 90% was from, like, their company or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that.
unidentified
This is his correction on the microphone.
kyle dunnigan
When was that taken?
joe rogan
Oh, is it a correction?
jamie vernon
Some sort of correction.
joe rogan
He didn't say me and him were teaming up to take down Donald Trump.
Michael has enough Trump on his plate.
I'm the crazy person who said me and Michael Cohen were teaming up to take down Trump, of course.
I meant it.
Michael doesn't get paid by vice.
Okay.
Thank you, Tom, for correcting the record.
kyle dunnigan
Thanks, Tom.
Thanks for clearing that up, Tom.
joe rogan
If I was Tom Arnold, I'd be nervous as fuck.
kyle dunnigan
Why?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
I don't want to get killed.
kyle dunnigan
Oh.
No.
joe rogan
Impossible?
kyle dunnigan
Impossible.
unidentified
You think?
kyle dunnigan
You can't kill Tom Arnold.
joe rogan
What if Putin did it for a favor?
kyle dunnigan
Putin might be able to do it.
unidentified
What if he just decides, I don't like what you're doing with Trump.
kyle dunnigan
I don't like what you've done.
This is not a good Russian accent.
joe rogan
Would you consider doing a Putin on your page?
kyle dunnigan
Ooh, I will.
Yes, that's a good idea.
joe rogan
It's a great idea.
kyle dunnigan
What is the Russian accent?
Is this good?
joe rogan
It's not bad.
Just listen to him talk a few times and you'd get it.
kyle dunnigan
I'm Putin.
Is this good?
joe rogan
And then have a bunch of, like, really harsh Russian prostitutes with, like, water flying all over the place, like, squirting.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah!
Piss all over me, you whore!
All right, see you next week!
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's not a bad idea for a sketch.
kyle dunnigan
Is there a pee tape or is that a...
Is that a rumor?
Do we not know?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't think it's supposed to be real.
I think it's supposed to be fake.
kyle dunnigan
It sounds fake.
joe rogan
It sounds like something someone would just make up.
Like not even well planned out.
kyle dunnigan
What percentage of people like to be peed on?
It's got to be below 1%.
joe rogan
That's still a lot.
There's 300 million people.
That means 3 million people like to get peed on.
That's just in this country alone.
That's a lot of pee.
kyle dunnigan
It's such a clean-up.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
I don't even think it's 1%.
But even if it's one-tenth of 1%, it's 300,000 people.
kyle dunnigan
I love a chocolate sundae, but if you smeared it all over the place and after I had to clean it up, I'd probably be like...
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not into that.
kyle dunnigan
What are you into?
What's the freakiest thing you're into?
joe rogan
I'm surprisingly tame.
I'm not into anything freaky.
I've never even done, like, whipped cream or anything.
kyle dunnigan
What about when a girl asks you to, like, choke her a little?
How do you feel about that?
unidentified
Um...
kyle dunnigan
That's a scary request.
joe rogan
I'm not into that.
I'm not...
I had a girl that I used to date who wanted me to rape her.
She told me to rape her.
unidentified
That's...
kyle dunnigan
That's tough.
joe rogan
And the problem was she was fucking hot.
And I was like, I do not want to get interested in doing this.
Like...
The worst thing would be...
kyle dunnigan
You really liked it.
joe rogan
Yeah, because I was in my 20s.
What if I just had a connection?
I got into only girls that want you to force them to do shit.
kyle dunnigan
That's very true.
When you were young and you're forming your sexuality, whatever you first got your...
When I first danced with a girl and I noticed her hips were wide, I got a boner.
It was in eighth grade.
Because it was like, she's different.
And for...
Years!
In my early 30s, I could not dance with a girl without getting hard on.
I was at a wedding once, and I asked this girl to dance.
I never do this, but she was alone and she was hot.
And I get on the dance floor, and my mother's there, and I got a boner.
And I don't know this girl at all.
And I had to tell her, because you know...
You know, like, your wedding pants are not keeping things at bay.
joe rogan
No, no.
kyle dunnigan
And so, full-pitched, and I... She probably already knew, so I was like, I'm sorry, can you help me off the floor?
And I had to...
How humiliating is this?
I had to ask this girl to, like, shimmer me off the floor away from my mother.
joe rogan
Did she think it was funny?
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, she had a good, luckily, good sense of humor about it, but it was humiliating.
joe rogan
Well, I shouldn't say she should be flattered, but a girl with a good sense of humor would be flattered.
kyle dunnigan
She invited me to her Halloween party after that, which is a good sign, but that went bad.
I got all dressed up as the universe.
joe rogan
Stars and stuff?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I had a whole black outfit.
I glued planets to my body with Velcro.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Grown man.
And then I go to her house on time, which I didn't realize you don't go to parties on time.
I just got into LA. And then I went to hug her.
I knocked over the skeleton on the wall.
And then her dog ran up and bit Venus off my leg and took off.
And now I'm just in the...
No one's dressed up.
People are coming and they're like, have a bandana.
It's like, I'm a pirate!
No one's really dressed up except for me.
So I was a pariah and then no one talked to me.
At the end, this guy, because all our friends were like frat guys, he goes, can I ask you a question?
And I was like, yeah.
Someone's talking to me.
He goes, you a faggot?
joe rogan
No.
No, really?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I was like, no.
I mean, this all started with me getting a boner with this girl.
But anyway, I gotta go.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
What a dick.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, he was kind of a dick.
joe rogan
Was he a dick before that?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, they were all kind of like...
joe rogan
Jockey?
kyle dunnigan
Jockey, and they were drunk.
I think I seemed like a target because I had the universe on my body.
Seemed like an easy target.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's a severe weakness.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
Unless you were doing something.
I mean, why wouldn't they think that was funny?
Like, what are you doing, man?
What's with the outfit?
And then you start talking, you start laughing, and everybody has a good time.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, yeah, we would have had a good time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
He went right to...
unidentified
Hey, are you a faggot?
Yeah.
Ugh.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, you know...
joe rogan
That's funny, though, the boner thing.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's a girl that I dated when I was in high school, and she was into, like, rubbing her feet on me.
And I had a foot thing for a long time afterwards because of it.
kyle dunnigan
Where was she rubbing her feet on you?
unidentified
My dick!
joe rogan
My dick, son!
unidentified
I figured that.
kyle dunnigan
I meant like, were you at your house?
joe rogan
Were you at school?
Yeah, well, whatever.
She would just rub her feet on my legs and put her feet on my dick.
kyle dunnigan
This is your girlfriend?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Okay.
I used to go to this math class, 10.30, ugly teacher, but her smell, boner every time.
unidentified
And I knew, I was like, oh, I gotta go get a boner in this class.
kyle dunnigan
That's hilarious!
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
But that is a real thing about getting connected to a particular thing.
Whether it's choking someone or any of that.
The girl who wanted me to rape her also would grab my hand and put it on the back of her head.
Get me to force her head down.
She was crazy.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
She was just really into it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it took a while for her to warm up.
It's almost like when we first started fooling around, she was like, hmm, when do I tell this motherfucker what I like?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not yet.
The beginning was normal, and then one day she wanted to wrestle.
kyle dunnigan
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's like, I want to wrestle you.
kyle dunnigan
The gateway drug.
joe rogan
I was like, what?
She's like, I want to wrestle you.
I bet I'll kick your ass.
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Like, what are you doing?
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
It was so weird.
You lost immediately.
joe rogan
I didn't beat her up, but I was trying to figure out what we're doing while we're doing it.
kyle dunnigan
And she turned it sexual.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
She got into it.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I think like Louis C.K., I remember his show, like one of the first episodes, he had a show where an older girl asked him to jerk off in front of her.
And I was always like, I bet that actually happened.
And that got linked up.
You can't really decide what links up your sexuality and what...
It is a turns you on.
joe rogan
It could have.
kyle dunnigan
I have no information, but that's my guess.
joe rogan
People are into weird shit, man.
They're into weird shit.
kyle dunnigan
I think the weirdest is the smelling the shoes.
unidentified
Oh!
kyle dunnigan
Marla Maples, Trump's ex, put a camera in her bedroom, in her closet, because she didn't have one shoe, and it was some friend would come in, they caught him just like, just coming in and stealing, sniffing her shoes.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
kyle dunnigan
How does that get linked up?
unidentified
Ugh.
kyle dunnigan
Anyway.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of that stuff, right?
Like stealing underwear, stealing shoes.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, men are- That's weird.
The thing is, I mean, men get picked on because we're pervs, and that's true, but if we weren't pervs, this species wouldn't be here.
Let me tell you why.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Because we were down to like 70,000 people.
If we didn't have this super perv dream to go through the snow, get some pussy, I think it's less than 70,000 people.
joe rogan
They were saying that after one of the super volcanoes, it might have gotten down to just a few thousand.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, well...
There's a definite...
joe rogan
What is it, Sumatra?
Is that where it was?
Indonesia?
Some massive supervolcano 70,000 years ago killed off almost everybody.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, I didn't know about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got down to an extremely low number.
I think they estimate it's somewhere between like 2 and maybe like 10,000 people.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, you need people who like to fuck a lot, that are real pervy to jump that up.
joe rogan
Well, you know, Brett Weinstein, who is a...
He was a professor...
kyle dunnigan
Excuse you.
joe rogan
Sorry.
I don't know what's going on with me.
I smoked weed before the show.
I'm not going to lie to you people.
He was explaining...
With his wife, who's also a biologist, that there's two different things that men are attracted to.
They're attracted to a beautiful woman, but they're attracted to a hot woman.
Like a hot woman doesn't necessarily have to be beautiful, but what she does is offer an opportunity for like very quick sex.
Like you could just have sex with her.
You don't have to...
Court her like a girl with a short skirt and her tits are popping out and she's wearing a lot of makeup.
What that signals is that there's an opportunity for you to spread your genes and you have no responsibility.
You wouldn't have to take care of it.
You wouldn't have to spend a lot of time with her, court her.
She's the type of person that allows you to just fuck her.
kyle dunnigan
You can move on and spread your genes elsewhere.
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, that there's an evolutionary reason for that being a stimulating thing for men.
For men, this idea of these loose women.
Loose women are very attractive to us for that reason.
It's not just that, oh yeah, if I can get some, not deal with all these bitches in their pocket.
No, it's literally an evolutionary trait that we have adapted to.
kyle dunnigan
The disease thing knocks it back a little bit.
For me, I'll go like, oh, that might be a disease there.
unidentified
I have an antidote for...
kyle dunnigan
I don't feel like there's any woman who could, no matter how hot, come and take me away.
Or force me to...
What am I trying to say?
Seduce me.
Here it is.
joe rogan
You don't think a woman could seduce you?
kyle dunnigan
No.
If I don't want her to, I have an anecdote.
Antidote!
unidentified
Antidote!
kyle dunnigan
I have an antidote.
joe rogan
Okay.
kyle dunnigan
And I've been developing it over years, and people listening can take this.
Let's say you fell for somebody, and she didn't like you, and she dumped you, and you're still pining over her.
joe rogan
Right.
kyle dunnigan
You put her...
First you think about the blood moving through her body and her skeleton, and you put her on the toilet.
You think about she's making bile.
I know it's gross, but you think about her as this animal, and you think about her on the toilet, and whenever she pops up, you put her on the toilet.
You're welcome.
joe rogan
That doesn't work with me.
kyle dunnigan
It will.
joe rogan
I won't care.
kyle dunnigan
No?
joe rogan
No.
No, if I think she's hot.
kyle dunnigan
What if she's really struggling on the toilet?
joe rogan
I struggle on the toilet.
unidentified
I'm not judgmental.
joe rogan
I eat a lot, man.
I take some horrific shits.
kyle dunnigan
But think about, like, The Bachelorette or something.
They're fantasized.
A lot of times, like, early on, there's this fantasy.
And, you know, you're married?
joe rogan
Yes.
kyle dunnigan
So there's intimacy and you get past all that.
But that early on fantasy, feeling in the blanks as a perfect person, you usually leave that out.
joe rogan
It never bothered me.
I don't give a fuck about periods.
What about thinking about their skeleton?
kyle dunnigan
Does that kind of go, oh yeah.
unidentified
Their skeleton.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, if you just imagine, there's a skeleton underneath this.
Woman that I'm like pining over.
unidentified
She's just like...
kyle dunnigan
Alright, maybe this doesn't work.
joe rogan
It doesn't work on me.
kyle dunnigan
It works for me.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, man.
If I think someone's hot, I think they're hot.
I don't care if they just took a diarrhea shit.
kyle dunnigan
How about this?
I imagine they have bad breath.
I'll be like, I bet she has bad breath.
joe rogan
I'd tell her.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, you're Aussie.
joe rogan
I'd just say, listen.
I'd say something really nice.
You're super hot, and I'm going to tell you something.
kyle dunnigan
Compliment sandwich.
You start with a nice thing.
joe rogan
And then you go against yourself and go...
Sometimes I get bad breath and because I'm a person everybody gets bad breath, but when I get bad breath I want someone to tell me absolutely I do not want to be wandering around grossing everybody out and they're like hey hey good to talk to you Joe as soon as they turn their head Yeah.
Tell me.
I don't know.
I'll take a Listerine strip or I'll chew gum or whatever the fuck.
kyle dunnigan
Some people...
Go ahead.
joe rogan
So I would tell her.
kyle dunnigan
But some people have an...
Like, here's an example.
I was with this girl and I could not take the breath.
Couldn't take it.
joe rogan
That bad.
kyle dunnigan
And then I said, hey, let's brush our teeth.
It was either, you gotta go, I can't do this, or I've gotta figure out how to brush our teeth.
So I thought I made a fun game.
So she brushed her teeth, reluctantly.
joe rogan
Oh my god, reluctantly?
unidentified
She's like, I hate brushing my teeth.
kyle dunnigan
Clearly.
But it didn't fix it at all.
Like it was coming from her gut.
Some people have like...
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
That happens with a lot of girls who are bulimic or even anorexic.
kyle dunnigan
They gird.
They regurgitate.
joe rogan
Your body's all fucked up.
Your body's like super confused.
I used to date a girl who puked.
I didn't know it until like deep into the relationship.
I did it a couple months and then I found out she was saying like if she eats too much she'll force herself to throw up and I was like, what?
It's easy to hide.
That is...
I mean, I knew it existed, but I didn't know anybody who had it, and that's a disturbing thing.
Like, you're hungry, so you eat, and then you're like, what have I done?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shove things in your mouth and force it to come up again.
unidentified
Like, oh God.
kyle dunnigan
Did you guys talk about it or did that sort of end the relationship and you moved away?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
She brought it up and I said, this was the fucked up thing was, she wasn't in any way overweight.
Like, she was beautiful.
She had a great body.
It was just like a weird, she was an actress.
I think the pressure of that gig is just so crazy.
First of all, you take someone who most of the time, the reason why we want to become an actor is because they didn't get enough attention.
That's a lot of what causes it.
Especially if you have this weird sort of non-specific desire for fame.
It's not like you're a really good character actress.
You're a Faye Dunaway or something like that.
You're just really good and you love the craft of creating a character.
No, there's a lot of them that just want to be famous.
And why?
Why is that?
It's usually there's something fucked up from childhood.
Usually somebody wasn't paying attention to them.
Parents split up.
Something went wrong, right?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you take this person that's super insecure and has this exorbitant need for attention and then you put them through this audition process.
The audition process is the craziest thing ever.
It devastates people's self-esteem.
Because you just get rejected all the time.
Rejected all the time.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, you're not selling a t-shirt that no one wants.
You're selling yourself.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, I used to date this girl when I first moved to LA. And when she would go on auditions, if she would get rejected, she would want to fuck like a wild animal.
It's like she wanted something to just like...
She wanted to just fucking scream too.
She wanted to...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like the stress of it all was so crazy.
She wanted validation.
She wanted to blow off steam.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was just the stress of it all.
It's so unhealthy.
And the people that go into that are some of the most, the least, it's the least advisable career path for them.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
To be healthy.
Yeah.
It attracts the wrong people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's just a fucked up situation.
You have these people judging you.
Like, come on in, Kyle.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I can't...
joe rogan
Tell us about yourself.
kyle dunnigan
I have a lot of trouble auditioning.
joe rogan
Tell me what your favorite animal is.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
unidentified
What's your second favorite?
kyle dunnigan
That's who you are.
joe rogan
I told that Tom Cruise.
kyle dunnigan
You're a goat.
You told Tom Cruise he loved it?
Oh, cool.
unidentified
Loved it.
kyle dunnigan
That's great.
Wow, Tom Cruise.
joe rogan
I went on an audition once, and this girl...
She asked me where I was from, and I said I was from New Jersey.
And she goes, I'm from New York.
She goes, well, I'm actually from New Jersey, but I don't tell people that.
I go, why?
She goes, well, it's cool to say you're from New York.
I go, that's ridiculous.
I go, that doesn't make any sense at all.
I go, why would you lie?
I go, and then you just told me.
unidentified
And she goes, are you ready to audition?
joe rogan
I'm like, okay.
So she's like giving me like this sour look, and I had a sing...
kyle dunnigan
Wait, the auditioner told you...
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then she had this sour look on her face, and I had to sing a line from a Bruce Springsteen song to her in the audition.
It was so humiliating.
kyle dunnigan
What were you auditioning for?
To be in his band?
unidentified
Some terrible movie.
joe rogan
Some terrible movie.
It was a scene in the movie where there's a guy and a girl telling the girl how much I love her and I'm singing fucking Born to Run or something like that.
I don't even remember.
kyle dunnigan
I think everyone would love to hear a little bit right now.
unidentified
The day we're walking down the street of a runaway American dream.
joe rogan
I don't remember what.
I don't even remember what song it was.
kyle dunnigan
And you didn't get it?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Not only did I not get it, but this is a very important moment for me.
I left, and that's when I realized, I was like, this whole process, for me at least, is broken.
I'm not good at this.
I'm not good at pretending to be someone.
Everybody who goes in there, they go into these auditions, and there was these people who were, like, air quotes, working actors.
They do a little, you know, I was on Just Shoot Me for a saying, you know, I had a nice episode on this.
You know those people, they're like hopping around.
Those people, they develop this real slick way of talking.
And they don't say, nice to meet you, because they might have already met you.
So they say, good to see you.
Good to see you, Kyle.
kyle dunnigan
Good to see you.
unidentified
I do that, actually.
kyle dunnigan
Because I keep remembering, forgetting people.
joe rogan
You don't have Dunbar's number.
You only have a certain number of people you can keep in your head.
But this way of doing it, I was recognizing it.
The way they would talk, everyone was like super left-wing, super progressive.
No one explored ideas.
You just adopted whatever everybody else was going with and ran with it.
Oh, yes, I agree.
Hillary is so much more qualified.
People would just say shit like that.
It was just it was really strange.
They were like real obvious Democrat lean.
They weren't thinking it through.
They just adopted this mindset and they were just sneaking their way through this system.
They were like exploiting little personality holes in the system and they would get become friends with casting agents and one of the casting agents was a woman.
I knew this one casting agent who was friends with a friend of mine, and she was kind of gross.
I'm just being nice.
I'm being kind by saying kinda.
And she fucked all these actor guys.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, I want to know who this is.
joe rogan
I can't tell you.
She's a nice lady.
She just licked.
She was basically doing the casting couch in reverse.
kyle dunnigan
Right.
joe rogan
But she was, like, aggressive, sexually aggressive with guys.
Yeah, and one of my friends.
She was super sexually aggressive with one of my friends.
kyle dunnigan
Is it Henrietta Weinstein?
joe rogan
I can't tell you!
Well, she was casting quite a few different shows.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
And she knew how to get these exploit people, these guys that were saying, good to see you.
Those guys, she would fuck those guys.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because that was the way they could play it, you know, that's the way they get closer.
unidentified
She's like, is it good to see this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I wonder how her seduction went down.
joe rogan
I don't know what it was.
kyle dunnigan
It's brutal, though.
Auditioning is...
It's horrible.
I'm terrible.
I booked one...
I've gotten, like, sketch shows, but I've only booked one show where it was, like, a script.
Like, it was a sitcom.
I booked, like, a guest-starring thing.
And I went in, and I'm a terrible reader.
And for the read-through, they do a read-through with the network, like, I don't know, a couple days before they shoot.
And they gave me like, oh, you have eight new lines, whatever.
And I read like a third grader.
I was very poor.
So I had the big table read-through and I stammered through the whole thing and I got fired.
So the only show I booked really off a typical audition reading a script I was fired from.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, so many wasted hours memorizing, paying acting coaches.
None of it worked out for me.
joe rogan
Why?
unidentified
Why?
kyle dunnigan
Because I get really nervous.
I feel very judged.
I feel very uncomfortable.
I'm a terrible reader.
So I end up having to memorize it.
And then most of my time is trying to remember.
It's just...
Basically, I get too nervous is the answer.
joe rogan
Did you ever try to see a hypnotist or anything like that?
kyle dunnigan
No, but that probably would have been a good idea.
Because it was a mental...
Like, shut down.
Like, you know, some people just react.
You can't help how you react.
But it's like, if you can imagine, if you're afraid of bees, for example, it's like go in an audition with a bunch of bees flying around you.
Your body's reacting in like a fear way.
It's really hard to grab your facilities to act or whatever you're doing.
It's impossible.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I get it.
I mean, especially if you think like this, God, this could be it.
This is the big moment.
It's like one of the worst ways for you to behave or to perform rather in something that's like really important, especially like an acting situation where you're supposed to pretend to be in love or to pretend to be, you know, happy and whatever the fuck it is.
Like all you're thinking is don't fuck this up.
Don't fuck this up.
And that's like the overlying mantra to all your thoughts.
kyle dunnigan
Doing it, do this correct, is not the great mindset where you're going to do a good performance.
I had like...
unidentified
Oh, I just fell out of my head.
kyle dunnigan
Whatever I was about to say was going to be hilarious.
joe rogan
It was the best part of the show.
kyle dunnigan
It was going to be great.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this is one of the reasons why so many people are so crazy out here.
It's they come here crazy, and then the system gets them crazier.
And then you also realize...
That unless you're doing something like what you're doing, or you're just doing your own thing on Instagram, someone has to pick you to work.
You have to get picked.
Which is just nuts.
As comics, all we have to do is just go to an open mic night, practice, write, come up with some jokes, do well, you come back, do well, you come back, you just keep grinding.
Couple years down the road, you're starting to get a gig here and a gig there.
Yeah, I'm opening up for this guy.
And yeah, I got a gig emceeing at this place.
And then a couple years after that, I'm middling.
There's an actual thing you can do.
If you're good, you can make a living.
kyle dunnigan
I can't imagine just being an actor.
Forget it.
joe rogan
They go crazy, dude.
I have friends that are just actors.
They go crazy.
They all go crazy.
By the time they're in their 40s, they're out of their fucking mind.
And women.
That's hard.
They feel like they have this little tiny-ass hourglass and it's just running out of sand every day.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
And like you said, a lot of times you're not starting with the most secure people.
joe rogan
No.
Almost never.
Almost never.
kyle dunnigan
I got on stage because I was in so much pain.
I literally was pushed.
I was in college.
I had no friends.
I'm really painting a pretty picture of myself today.
But I wanted attention.
That really was the first impulse.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But sometimes that leads to the funniest shit and the funniest people.
Like, there's that pressure one way that throws you in another direction.
That bad feeling, when you're just trying to escape that bad feeling, the energy and the desire to escape that bad feeling is so intense that it creates a good feeling.
kyle dunnigan
And after a while, though, it flips, too.
Like, now I, you know, sometimes I don't want to be looked at.
You know, I think if I got into a bad spot, I'd want to go on stage again.
But sometimes...
Do you ever feel like that?
Like, you just don't feel like being...
Like, looked at.
You don't feel like being looked at?
Like, that's not what happens with you.
Sometimes I don't feel like going on stage.
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
Definitely.
One of the things that I've been doing lately is...
For a long time, I hardly took any time off.
But after I did my special, I just filmed a special in April.
I took...
A month off.
I didn't do any stand-up for a month.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
At least like three weeks, right?
Like three, maybe it might have been four weeks.
But I was like, I'm not doing shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I went to Hawaii.
I fucking hung out.
I did podcasts.
I didn't do any stand-up and it felt great.
It felt great that I would leave here and I'd be done.
I wouldn't have another gig to go to at night.
You know, there wasn't this overwhelming thing looming in the background.
After a while, you know, I realized, alright, gotta get back on the horse.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I'm enjoying more now.
Go ahead.
joe rogan
What's that?
kyle dunnigan
What were you saying?
I interrupted you.
joe rogan
You were gonna join more now?
unidentified
What?
kyle dunnigan
He's like, what?
I'm enjoying stand-up now.
Because I feel like this Instagram gave me a little confidence to bring that into my stand-up.
Because before...
I just kind of was I think scared trying to do what people said and there was this thing where like you got to make it a sitcom you got to be talk about your family I had managers who were like don't do the guitar don't do this do talk about your family and they were trying to get you to make something that could be turned into a sitcom yeah so they could take it away from you once your ex-girlfriend says you were a shitty boyfriend yeah yeah exactly like today yeah it's a new thing that's what they're doing now That's the new thing.
joe rogan
That's the new thing, yeah.
Yeah, there was a lot of that.
There was a lot of they were trying to get people to basically put together an audition for a sitcom.
Your act is essentially like Tim Allen or Roseanne or whoever, Brett Butler.
They put you, you know.
kyle dunnigan
And some people have the confidence not to listen.
I remember Zach Galifianakis was one of the guys who didn't want to be on a sitcom.
And I was like, I didn't believe him because I'm like, that's what we all have.
That's what we're all doing, right?
But he had a sense of himself.
I got out into the world without really having confidence in myself to make a decision to do something.
I really felt like I needed someone to tell me that.
There's this experiment.
I'm going to explain myself real quick.
Where they did this in the 70s.
They'd rattle a rattle in front of a baby.
And the mom would do this and the baby would like it.
Then they'd have them keep rattling it and the baby would start to push it away.
They'd have them keep rattling it and the baby would start crying.
All babies go through this exact thing.
Then after the crying, they have them keep rattling it, which is like something they would never do now.
At the last phase, the baby is numb out and start drooling.
unidentified
Jesus.
kyle dunnigan
And that's how I came into the world.
But I feel like I'm waking up now a little bit.
joe rogan
That's fucking dark that they did that to a baby.
kyle dunnigan
Only in the 70s would they do that.
joe rogan
How many people did they fuck up in the 70s?
kyle dunnigan
I know, the brown-eyed, blue-eyed experiment.
Remember that?
This, they told a classroom of kids, blue-eyed people are smarter and better.
Brown-eyed people are to kids.
unidentified
What?
kyle dunnigan
So then the blue-eyed people started, you know, doing better work, behaving better.
The brown-eyed kids started misbehaving.
Then they switched it.
They're like, we were wrong.
The brown-eyed kids are the ones who are smarter and better.
And the whole thing switched.
joe rogan
So they do it as a psychological experiment?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, just to see, like...
joe rogan
Just to fuck with kids?
kyle dunnigan
Just to really fuck them up.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, if you tell kids that they're shit, they feel like they're shit.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, you don't really need to do that experiment.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't do that.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do the opposite of that.
kyle dunnigan
I know.
We're talking now about the effects on kids with the Trump thing and the border.
joe rogan
It's so dark.
What the fuck was Melania wearing?
That jacket that says, I don't care, do you?
What does it say?
I don't care, do you think I do or some shit?
I don't care.
I don't care, do you?
Is that what it is?
What in the fuck is going on in that house?
I think she's losing her marbles.
kyle dunnigan
You think it was her decision?
joe rogan
First of all, do you think she had any idea when she married that billionaire dude in 2005?
She thought she was just getting hooked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's like, look, I'm gonna have a kid with this guy.
It's gonna be great.
I don't have to work anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
All these fucking nude modeling gigs that I was doing and, you know, learn how to speak a little bit of English, whatever.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, go shopping all the time.
Fuck yeah, I'm in.
kyle dunnigan
Bad and be a good boy.
Don't be a bad boy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Boom.
I'm in.
And then 10 years later...
She's the fucking vice...
I mean, she's the first lady.
kyle dunnigan
She's the vice president.
joe rogan
Well, she's more popular than the vice president.
Who the fuck knows who Pence is?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know a goddamn thing about that guy.
kyle dunnigan
He scares me a little bit.
joe rogan
Well, he might be the president one day.
kyle dunnigan
There's a lot of Jesus stuff going on.
joe rogan
A lot of Jesus.
kyle dunnigan
A lot.
More than ever.
joe rogan
Pence, Sessions, Huckabee, a lot of Jesus.
Yeah.
Chris Pratt's being praised because he said people should pray, which is a legitimate thing to say.
I mean, just whatever prayer is.
Mindfulness, meditation, feeling good, just being thankful.
You don't have to attach it necessarily to any ideology or religion.
It's still a good idea to think that way.
But people are going, yes, we got a Christian as an actor.
unidentified
The guy from fucking Guardians of the Galaxy is one of us.
Whoa!
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, like the idea that no atheists can be president.
joe rogan
No atheists.
And no single guys.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You better have a family, bitch.
Otherwise, what are you going to do?
You're going to fuck everybody and launch bombs just to see what happens?
kyle dunnigan
That's exactly what would happen.
joe rogan
That is what would happen.
I mean, do you think that it's possible to have a single guy or gal as a president?
I do not.
I do not think it's possible.
kyle dunnigan
It's got a stigma.
joe rogan
People would get weirded out by you.
How old are you?
You're 49. You don't even have any kids, you fucking weirdo.
You don't have a wife.
Even a guy who's married with no kids.
I think people would be like, he's not like us.
Because you could be married with kids and I could be single and I don't feel weirded by you.
I don't feel like this is a fucking weirdo.
What's he doing all married with kids?
Because that's a normal path.
But it's not a normal path to be like a 55 year old guy with no wife, no kids, never been married.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
No desire to...
kyle dunnigan
It seems like you're more stable if you have a whole family.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
You have some skin in the game.
You care about your kids.
kyle dunnigan
That's true, too.
You don't want to blow up the world.
joe rogan
It's like that Sting song, If the Russians Love Their Children Too.
kyle dunnigan
Can we hear a bit of that, Joe?
joe rogan
No, let's not.
I'll sing it for this audition, but then I'll walk out of here humiliated.
kyle dunnigan
I auditioned for Snoopy on Broadway.
unidentified
You did?
kyle dunnigan
You want to talk about humiliating.
I don't have a good voice, but they wanted a comedian or something, so I somehow got this audition.
The song was like, sup, sup, supper time, sup, sup, supper, literally.
I went to my friend, you know John Bush, comedian?
joe rogan
No, I don't know.
kyle dunnigan
Really funny guy.
He went in before me and I walked in.
joe rogan
I know his name.
kyle dunnigan
Felt like a bomb went off.
And I walked out in a huff.
I'm like, what happened?
He was like, meh.
And I went in there and they were just dead silent.
And I did like a whole dance, like sup, sup, supper time.
Two people just staring at me.
And I left.
And I was like, what happened in there?
He goes, I had a guy said that my audition was cute and I was going to leave.
But then I walked back in.
I tapped on his table and I said, you know what?
You're an asshole.
And then he left.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus Christ.
kyle dunnigan
Like, hi!
joe rogan
You're an asshole because you said it was cute?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why is everybody so defensive?
kyle dunnigan
Well, yeah, this guy's a legend.
joe rogan
You're supposed to be Snoopy, bro.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
Snoopy's not mad.
joe rogan
Is this Bush character, is he always like that?
kyle dunnigan
He's hilarious, yeah.
He just doesn't take any...
unidentified
Doesn't give a fuck?
kyle dunnigan
He lives in Iowa now.
joe rogan
Iowa?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's he doing there?
kyle dunnigan
He's got a nice little life.
He's got a family and a little house.
It's like corporate stuff mostly now.
joe rogan
Oh, it's corporate gigs?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a weird world.
That world of corporate gigs, where the guys, they give up mainstream, but they can do those corporate gigs that pay really well, but nobody knows about them.
Nobody knows they're alive.
They just do these corporate gigs.
And you can make some money doing that.
kyle dunnigan
Mm-hmm.
But they're like, a lot of times like they're in the afternoon.
People are eating food.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
And then you stay in some Best Western somewhere.
Kansas City, staring at the wall.
kyle dunnigan
What they do to comedians, they go, we'll get a comedian.
When the environment...
I'm sure you've had gigs like that where you're just at a place like, why did they think that's what's good for a comedian to come here?
joe rogan
Terrible.
kyle dunnigan
You've done colleges, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
kyle dunnigan
The kids run it.
They're like these seven-year-old kids.
I went to one and they had a poster of me, but they didn't put the date or the time on it.
So guess how many people showed up?
joe rogan
A million.
kyle dunnigan
A million people.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
kyle dunnigan
That's great.
joe rogan
How'd you do?
kyle dunnigan
I did fantastic.
I asked if I, one time I was at Amherst.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
kyle dunnigan
It was a giant field.
There was one guy in a red hooded sweatshirt in the center of the field sitting Indian style.
And I said, I don't, I don't, we don't have to do this, right?
And she goes, no, just go out there.
People hear you will start coming out.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
One guy.
kyle dunnigan
One guy.
joe rogan
Amherst is a tricky place.
That's the People's Republic of Amherst.
It's like if you took Boulder and you moved it to Western Massachusetts, that's Amherst.
Super, super, super progressive and liberal.
kyle dunnigan
I did not know that.
Well, they don't like comedy, that's for sure.
We'll be right back.
joe rogan
It's too bad most people don't know that impression.
kyle dunnigan
Nobody knows who I was just dead.
joe rogan
Not anymore.
kyle dunnigan
It's Johnny Carson.
joe rogan
Yeah, back in the day.
unidentified
That is.
joe rogan
You know what I think of when I think of Johnny Carson?
It's a fucked up thing to think of.
But he died...
Smoking like some ungodly amount of pall malls.
He just kept pumping on these pall malls, just smoked them constantly.
And his gut had become distended like he was pregnant.
And it was just, he was just rotten with cancer.
Like his whole body was just fucked up.
And apparently like when he died, like as he was, as he was dying, he's like last days, he was like these goddamn cigarettes.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah, I didn't hear that.
joe rogan
It's all I think of when I think of Johnny Carson.
I think of him poisoning himself with these things that he can't keep from his face.
He just can't.
He's got to keep doing it and his body is rotting and he goes from being like America's favorite all-time talk show host.
He was the fucking man, right?
I mean, he was the man.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
He goes from that to just quitting.
Just stopping.
Just stopping doing it.
And then it becomes this weird thing.
He becomes this weird guy.
kyle dunnigan
Recluse.
joe rogan
Recluse.
What happens there?
How does one go from being the Tonight Show host to just being a recluse?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, he never tried to do anything else, right?
joe rogan
No.
I like what Letterman's doing.
He's doing those things on Netflix now.
kyle dunnigan
I haven't seen them.
joe rogan
I haven't either, but I like that he's doing them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm worried about him.
I'm worried he would be one of those guys, you know, because he kind of vanished.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Grew his crazy beard.
kyle dunnigan
I'm going to do that.
joe rogan
Crazy beard?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
Okay.
kyle dunnigan
Man, that's cool with you guys.
joe rogan
Do you think these guys, they just get to the point where they're like, I can't do this anymore.
There's just too much people, too much pressure, too much everything.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, it's a lot of pressure.
Every day to do a show takes a certain personality.
joe rogan
It's a different kind of thing, right?
kyle dunnigan
Exhausting, I'm sure.
joe rogan
And you're doing stand-up that's never been tried.
kyle dunnigan
No, and it can't be great.
joe rogan
It's terrible!
kyle dunnigan
It takes a long time to get an act together that's really good.
joe rogan
So, did you hear what happened today in the news?
Today?
kyle dunnigan
That was good about Carson, though.
He would make kind of fun about how bad he was doing.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
Well, Jay Leno was the best at it, I really feel.
And that's why they extended his monologue.
Right.
He wasn't good.
kyle dunnigan
He was a workhorse.
So, every Sunday, you go to the Hermosa Beach Club.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I was on that show, and I filmed something, and he brought me into the office, and he didn't want to air it.
And he goes, I don't want to get any letters.
Because I did that Craig character, and he just felt it was too retarded or something.
unidentified
Yeah, he played it safe.
joe rogan
He played it safe.
When people swung on him, he never swung back.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
unidentified
He does.
joe rogan
Just roll with the punches.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
Would you do a talk show?
joe rogan
No!
I'm doing one right now with Kyle Dunnigan.
kyle dunnigan
He's my guest.
joe rogan
Kyle Dunnigan, ladies and gentlemen.
Kyle Dunnigan won on Instagram.
kyle dunnigan
Kyle Dunnigan won.
The worst name on Instagram.
joe rogan
Why would I do that?
It doesn't seem like a good way to talk to people.
It doesn't seem like it's fun.
It seems like it's too much pressure.
It seems like there's too many people.
It seems like the conversations become fake because you have five minutes until you cut to commercial and they come over with cards and the executive wants to talk to you and the producers want to get in your ear.
And we just feel like it just needs a little levity.
So we're gonna bring the jester out.
I'm tired of the jester.
I don't like the jester.
And then the jester comes out with his little...
And everybody goes, the jester's here!
And the fucking crowd starts clapping.
The audience, they get that sign that says, cheer, applause, applause.
I've seen too many of them.
I think it's a dead medium.
I don't like it.
kyle dunnigan
I'm not recommending it.
I mean, you have it.
People should see.
You should have studio tours.
Joe's got the pool table here.
joe rogan
You have to put the VR on.
We've got the VR goggles now.
We've got HTC Vive.
kyle dunnigan
I don't know what that is, VR goggles.
joe rogan
Virtual reality?
kyle dunnigan
Oh, I could have figured that out if I tried.
joe rogan
You put on these goggles and you box people.
Oh, yeah.
You have this big dude in front of you throwing punches and when it hits you the screen goes white.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, really?
joe rogan
You get popped.
Yeah, it's great.
It's fun.
There's a bunch of them.
There's archery games, there's one with a lightsaber where things come at you, you gotta slice them.
They're flying through the air and when you're chopping them up.
kyle dunnigan
That's cool.
joe rogan
And you're doing it to music.
It's fucking amazing.
kyle dunnigan
And deprivation tank you got here?
joe rogan
I do.
I have that too.
kyle dunnigan
Joe, you want to tell them how we did on pool today?
joe rogan
We did really good.
It's a fun game.
kyle dunnigan
How many balls did I get in two games that we played?
joe rogan
You made one ball.
kyle dunnigan
I did get...
Yeah, I got one in.
joe rogan
You made one.
kyle dunnigan
Got it in.
joe rogan
That's not bad.
It went right where you wanted it to go.
You aimed, you shot, you fired, it went in.
kyle dunnigan
That was really emasculating, those two games.
joe rogan
It shouldn't be.
Two things.
One, that table, I didn't tell you because I didn't want to freak you out.
No, very tiny pockets.
The pockets are much smaller than a normal table.
A normal table has five and a half inch pockets.
That table has four inch pockets.
They're actually slightly under four.
So they're really small.
So it's hard to get a ball in.
And I play on it every day.
kyle dunnigan
It wasn't hard for you to get the ball, I just want to say that.
joe rogan
I told you I play on it every day.
I really do.
Every day after we're done, that's how I unwind.
We do the podcast, it's over, and I go knock some balls around.
kyle dunnigan
Is that your best game?
joe rogan
Pool?
Yeah, I'm not good at any games.
That's the only game I'm good at.
kyle dunnigan
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm terrible at video games.
I can play Quake.
Pretty good at Quake.
kyle dunnigan
Okay, an archery you're good at.
joe rogan
I'm good at archery, but that's not a game, man.
kyle dunnigan
Not a game to me, man.
joe rogan
Serious, bro.
Yeah, archery is very different than all of them because archery is very much like a meditation.
It requires so much concentration and so many things have to be in line that as you're thinking of all those different things, it cleans your mind in some weird way.
Very meditative.
You ever read Zen and the Art of Archery?
kyle dunnigan
No.
joe rogan
Really good book.
Interesting book.
It's funny because my friend John Dudley read it and recommended it to me.
And he's a world-class archer.
He just got back from Europe where they flew him out to coach various international teams.
He's a real world-class coach and archer himself.
And he said, it's interesting, this book is really good, but I have a feeling that the guy who wrote it wasn't really that good at archery.
And I'm like, oh, that's fascinating.
It's like the guy, he goes, I feel like he was kind of there, but not quite.
And I'm like, that's interesting coming from a guy who's a real master.
Like he recognizes some errors in his thinking or the way he describes things or his approach.
Really interesting.
kyle dunnigan
By the way, you never have to ask me again, did you read that book?
I did not read that book.
joe rogan
You don't read any books.
kyle dunnigan
I haven't read a book in a long time.
joe rogan
Thank God someone's honest about that.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, you could say, did you hear this book?
Sometimes I'll get an audiobook downloaded.
joe rogan
Oh, I love audiobooks.
I read one book for every seven or eight audiobooks I listen to.
I read one, maybe.
And I don't even read most.
Sometimes I'll start off reading it, and then I'll go, this is too much work.
I'm just going to listen to it in my car.
I just listen to it.
I don't, it's like, there's a lot of dead time.
There's a lot of time that's not being used, and that time is when I'm driving.
And I'm always driving here, or I'm driving to the gym, or I'm driving to the comedy store, or I'm driving to the airport.
I fill that up with books on tape.
kyle dunnigan
Do you do self-help books?
joe rogan
No.
No, mostly, like right now, I'm reading The Tipping Point, which is a Malcolm Gladwell book, and I'm also reading Sapiens, which is, who wrote Sapiens?
kyle dunnigan
I heard someone read the Tipping Point book to me.
joe rogan
Tipping Point is great.
It's really great.
Really interesting.
It is, but I also felt like...
Who is it?
Yuval Noah Harari.
Oh, okay.
That's great, too.
And also, The Talent Code.
Just another book I'm in the middle of.
kyle dunnigan
I feel like The Tipping Point...
joe rogan
Great book, this book, Sapiens.
Fucking fantastic.
kyle dunnigan
Sapiens.
joe rogan
A Brief History of Humankind.
Very enlightening.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
That Tipping Point, I feel like could have been three sentences long.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a little...
You know, I get it after a while.
Like, I get it, I get it.
Yeah, a bunch of things collide together and anything can happen.
And the next thing you know, hush puppies are really popular.
kyle dunnigan
My tipping point was Joe Rogan played my Instagram videos.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
That's the only tipping point.
joe rogan
That makes me very happy.
kyle dunnigan
I love doing that.
If you need me to murder someone, you need some favor.
joe rogan
I'm good, dude.
I'm good.
But I'm going to contact you on behalf of Donald Trump to deal with Tom Arnold.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah.
You really are worried about his life, aren't you?
I think Tormonel's going to kill Tormonel before...
joe rogan
I think you might be right.
kyle dunnigan
I don't know.
He's sober now.
joe rogan
Take that back.
When people do kill themselves, you've got to go, okay, how many times did this person think about this?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many times did they get close and they didn't want...
I don't have...
That in me, you know, I don't know why, whatever it is, maybe it's because I take care of myself, maybe it's genetic, maybe it's because I live a happy life.
unidentified
Basically luck, I don't either, it doesn't pop into my head.
joe rogan
I think luck is a big, I think it's a big factor.
I have a friend who killed himself and his brother had killed himself before that and everybody loved him and it was just stunning to everybody.
Everybody's like, what the fuck?
I didn't know him that well, but I knew him well enough to really like him.
He's a really, really good guy.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I mean, people get down.
You have to be in so much pain to do that.
joe rogan
I don't know what it is.
So, you know, a guy like Tom Arnold, who knows, he might be like, he might have tasted the barrel a couple of times and be like, you know what, I'm just gonna fuck it.
kyle dunnigan
That wouldn't shock me.
He's got a lot of energy.
joe rogan
Does he?
Tom?
kyle dunnigan
From what I've seen, yeah.
joe rogan
What have you seen?
kyle dunnigan
I played like this game once with him.
It was like a big house game, a bunch of people, and he'd just run around and tag things.
I never quite figured it out.
But man, he was sweating like a pig and running around.
unidentified
This guy's in a drop dead of a heart attack.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I like that show idea, though.
I'm going to check it out.
joe rogan
His show?
kyle dunnigan
It's not out yet, right?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
Mm-hmm.
What's going on with Vice?
Somebody tell me that Vice is going away.
unidentified
It's not going away.
jamie vernon
The changes are happening.
So they hired a new CEO or VP or something so all the programming will probably be changed for the fall.
joe rogan
It's weird that it's a whole channel.
It's like it's a whole channel.
Vice has a channel.
kyle dunnigan
I couldn't find it.
It saved my life.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's too many goddamn channels.
I mean, there's like 600 plus channels.
You know what's hilarious?
I watch a lot of hunting shows and the outdoors shows.
They're all like a lot of like really Christian-y people.
Like a lot of these hunting outdoors type.
kyle dunnigan
Hunting with Christ.
joe rogan
Yeah, just want to thank you, Lord, for this opportunity to take down this ram.
There's a lot of that.
But what's funny is that on DirecTV, there are only two or three channels removed from hardcore porn.
So it's like you go through the lineup, you get into the 500s, and it's hardcore porn, hardcore porn, like daddies and stepdaughters and big cocks and small holes.
And then right after that, it's like the great outdoors.
kyle dunnigan
With Jesus and friends.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
A lot of landmines.
joe rogan
Blessed.
Blessed with Mike the Hunter.
I'm blessed.
I'm out here blessed.
This great world and this great country.
unidentified
Blessed.
kyle dunnigan
I'll tell you what.
Yeah, they have the Scientology channel now.
I think it's up there.
joe rogan
Nice.
kyle dunnigan
500s.
joe rogan
Nice.
Nice.
I did radio once.
I'll never forget this.
I did this radio show in Denver.
And just morning radio before a gig.
Like, you know, you do.
You promote the gig.
Hey, Joe Rogan's going to be at the Comedy Works in Denver here this weekend.
And then in the middle of the thing...
They go, it's time for our Pledge of Allegiance, ladies and gentlemen.
And so I'm sitting there, like, going, what is happening?
So there's two, they put their fucking hand on their heart, and they go, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic, for which is, and they get into it, like, full earnestness, and we're looking at each other, me and I think Ari or Duncan was with me, and we were like, what in the fuck is happening here?
unidentified
Did you go along?
kyle dunnigan
Did you play along?
joe rogan
Well, I would if it was like a game or something like that.
And, you know, stand for the flag.
Okay, I'll do that.
I don't want to make anybody feel bad.
That's not what it was.
It was a radio show.
You're in the middle of the radio show and you do a Pledge of Allegiance.
I'm like, what the fuck is this?
kyle dunnigan
Did you stay still?
joe rogan
I don't remember what I did.
I remember being high as fuck, though.
So it made it extra weird.
Because whenever I would do those radio shows, we would just meet downstairs.
Because, you know, you've got to be at them at 6 o'clock in the morning.
You're exhausted.
And, you know, you don't necessarily really want to do it.
But we would meet downstairs and get bored.
And so then it was an adventure.
It was like everything was free.
The wind was scaring me.
I was like, where's the car that's taking us?
We get in the car and then we talk to the people and it was always like, alright, to the driver like, okay, who's the biggest dickhead you've ever had to drive?
Because there's always like one story about comedians that hated being there.
And It was always, you would hear a bunch of them, but like disgruntled, angry people.
One of them was always Richard Jennings.
Richard Jennings was always grumpy.
Yeah, Richard Jennings, because he never wanted to be that guy.
He never wanted to be the road.
He wanted to be that guy who put together the act that got him the Jerry Seinfeld sitcom.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And meanwhile, he was one of the greatest stand-up comedians of all time.
I saw him a bunch of times when I was coming up and a bunch of times In clubs and he was a fucking killer.
Like one of the most unheralded and underappreciated stand-ups of all time.
He's like one of my all-time favorites.
But he was bumming me out.
I would hear that he was miserable.
He didn't want to talk to anybody.
I was all bummed out.
I was like, oh.
kyle dunnigan
I heard that on his death his girlfriend was making pancakes and he blew his face off.
He was still alive.
He like did it.
It went wrong.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
kyle dunnigan
Not to bring the room down.
joe rogan
So he went under the chin?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I guess that happens more often.
You just take the face.
joe rogan
Fuck!
kyle dunnigan
Taking the face.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
We'll be right back.
Yeah, that's another one.
Another guy who killed himself.
Crazy.
That, you know...
It's so common.
It's so common.
kyle dunnigan
It's hard to be a person.
We're the first species that knows we're gonna die, very aware of our impending death.
That right there, you need to medicate that species.
If you looked at a chart of the evolution of monkeys, you go, okay, this first level of primate, we gotta help them out.
They're gonna get very religious, which is good, but some of them, we gotta medicate this group.
joe rogan
Yeah, they can't handle it on their own.
Well, we used to die young.
So it was like you wouldn't think about killing yourself because you only live to be 30. Right.
kyle dunnigan
And now we have so much more time on our hands.
We don't have to work all day to get a meal and then collapse.
We're sitting around and we could think about this.
joe rogan
Fuck.
kyle dunnigan
You see yourself getting older every day.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It's happening.
kyle dunnigan
It's happening.
I love it.
joe rogan
You love aging?
kyle dunnigan
I love it.
joe rogan
What's your favorite part?
The pain or the tiredness?
kyle dunnigan
I like the pain.
I like tired.
That's tough.
I got some bursitis.
That's pretty sweet.
joe rogan
Nice.
kyle dunnigan
I do like, though, I do feel more comfortable.
I'm feeling less anxious in some ways.
More or another?
I don't know.
I guess I'm pretty even, though.
joe rogan
Well, you're more aware of things, but then you're also going to be more aware of your impending demise.
kyle dunnigan
We don't live long enough.
We need to live 500 years.
I've thought about that.
The first 100 years to fix your childhood stuff.
joe rogan
Can you imagine, though, if you did live 500 years, would you be dating a 100-year-old?
You'd be like, these fucking 100 year olds don't know shit.
kyle dunnigan
I'm sure, yeah.
joe rogan
She's hot, but she doesn't know shit.
kyle dunnigan
They haven't been around.
joe rogan
Do you imagine if you were 500 years old and you were dating a 30 year old?
People would be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
You couldn't do it.
But why not?
She's a grown ass woman.
She's 30 years old.
That's a grown ass woman.
kyle dunnigan
Right.
joe rogan
Like a 30 year old could date a 50 year old, could date a 60 year old.
And you're like, you better be rich.
A 70 year old, like, something better be going on.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I don't feel like we mature after 25. Myself.
Amen.
I don't know.
joe rogan
But don't you think, though, that there is a certain requirement of a lack of maturity to be funny?
To be, like, some of the shit that you did in those videos...
kyle dunnigan
A grown-up would not do.
joe rogan
You would not do.
You know?
Like, oh, you hit that retarded kid!
When you have Caitlyn driving with a clean record now because Bruce killed that fucking lady.
unidentified
Yeah, baby!
joe rogan
I mean, which is...
I wonder if that's the case.
kyle dunnigan
I don't know what's happening with that case, but the video doesn't look great.
I mean, it's an accident, obviously, but...
joe rogan
No, it's horrible.
kyle dunnigan
That family must be like...
To have that happen to them, they lose their loved one, and then to see her just like completely...
joe rogan
Traipsing around.
kyle dunnigan
Just hero of the year and all that.
joe rogan
I've always been a woman.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
It's my turn now, baby.
There's a show called Lost in Transition, which I recommend highly.
It's people transitioning.
And it's a lot of old, you know, people in their 50s and stuff.
joe rogan
Wow.
Well, that's what's weird about it.
It's like, there's a lot of it is people that have kind of given up on sex.
They don't even want to have sex anymore.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is one of the things that Caitlin said.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, sex is kind of like, it doesn't matter.
kyle dunnigan
Right, right.
joe rogan
But then why?
Why snippety-snip?
kyle dunnigan
I don't know, but they say that they become like teenagers when they do transition.
There's like a period where they're feeling this, like how teenage feels, like coming into their own finally.
But they're older men, you know, and have this period.
And Caitlin, they kind of got caught it on that show a little bit.
It's like you're kind of like a new person, I guess you feel like that, and it's time to like...
joe rogan
I feel like this is...
You remember when we read about George Washington having wooden teeth?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ever read about that?
kyle dunnigan
Is that not true?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure he did.
I mean, that's the best they had.
But I think you hear about that...
If you heard about a guy today that had wooden teeth, you'd be like, what the fuck?
Get that guy to a dentist.
What the fuck does he do?
They have implants.
They give him real teeth.
This is crazy.
I feel like there is going to be a time, maybe not in our lifetimes, but maybe...
Shortly after where You know they use crisper or some gene editing material something like that where they can actually turn you into a woman.
kyle dunnigan
Oh Well, I mean, once you go through puberty...
joe rogan
No.
No, no, no.
If they can alter your genes...
Look, what they can do now, mostly what they're doing now is they're doing work with embryos, and they're planning on altering people from the jump, like from the time they're born.
But as that technology gets better...
And more effective.
They're going to be able to utilize it on regular people.
And they've actually started introducing certain genes into people that didn't have them before in order to fix certain ailments or alterations in genes to try to combat certain life-threatening diseases.
All these things are on the table.
And I think it's just a matter of time before they come up with a technology that allows someone to completely alter their actual sex.
kyle dunnigan
Mmm.
I have things that alter by myself.
joe rogan
What would you change?
kyle dunnigan
First, I'd be hot as fuck.
joe rogan
Would you be hot in like a nobody likes you way?
Yeah.
unidentified
Like Thor.
kyle dunnigan
I was on a plane.
He came in.
He had this big Thor hair and he whipped it back.
unidentified
Whoa.
kyle dunnigan
And all of them were like...
I was with my girlfriend at the time and I saw her look at me and look at him.
She couldn't take it.
joe rogan
There's nothing you can do.
kyle dunnigan
That recalibrates what you see as good looking.
When you see actual...
Because his wife was there and she's this model.
Because when you see her face every year, you're like, I'm alright looking.
But when you see actual gorgeous people...
I was staring at them for like 20 minutes, real creepy-like.
And then I went to the bathroom and I must have recalibrated.
I looked like a monster.
joe rogan
As soon as you looked at yourself?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I was just like, nothing symmetrical.
There's just lettuce on my...
My hair looked like lettuce.
Anyway, yeah, I would not change any personality.
I wouldn't make myself a better person.
joe rogan
You wouldn't?
kyle dunnigan
I would just make myself gorgeous.
Because that's all that matters to me, Joe.
That's all I care about.
joe rogan
Would you be built like the rock?
kyle dunnigan
I'd be ripped as shit.
I mean, I'm pretty huge right now.
joe rogan
What kind of a giant hog would you have on you?
kyle dunnigan
I'd probably have a 10-inch hog.
Take four inches off my hog right now.
joe rogan
When you put it on the table and you hear it?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I had a nice...
Like, what was that, Tommy?
Who was the guy pushing the boat horn with his cock?
Tommy Lee?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I got a genetically engineered Tommy Lee cock.
unidentified
Nice.
kyle dunnigan
I actually don't care about that.
joe rogan
No?
kyle dunnigan
I mean, I think if I had something mutated, but...
joe rogan
Right.
kyle dunnigan
There seems like a zone.
As long as you're in that zone, it doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want to be micropenis.
kyle dunnigan
You don't want to be too big that it's...
joe rogan
Yeah.
You don't want to hurt people.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
unidentified
I hate having a 12-inch cock because I have to...
kyle dunnigan
I can only get the tip in.
joe rogan
I get it.
kyle dunnigan
It sucks.
joe rogan
Especially if you have the tip and it's like a beer can.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Big old fat boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
We're on one of those 500 channels right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is how it starts.
There's quite a lot of those channels still.
It's like, don't these people know about the internet?
Like, why are you paying $29.99 for this?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever you're paying.
kyle dunnigan
How is that not dead yet?
joe rogan
It's probably kids.
Their parents aren't looking, and they just rack it up.
Or guys who just want 4K in the big screen.
kyle dunnigan
Has enough time gone by where we've noticed the effect of online porn?
joe rogan
Well, for sure with pubicare.
Pubicare vanished.
kyle dunnigan
That's true, yeah.
joe rogan
I have a bit in my act about it.
It's like the best sign of porn's influence in our culture is the absence of pubicare.
Like if you had a time machine and you can get scientists from the future and they're studying the time period between 1990 and 2018, the most confusing thing would be what happened to the pubicare because there's no historical record.
Nobody discussed it.
kyle dunnigan
Interesting.
joe rogan
They just started hacking off their pubes.
kyle dunnigan
How do you feel about the bald situation?
joe rogan
It's normal.
It doesn't bother me anymore.
But when I was a kid, I mean, when I was young, nobody did anything.
It was chaos down there.
kyle dunnigan
It was a disaster.
joe rogan
It was like you would touch, like when you were going down on a girl or you were fooling around, you put your hand down her pants and you feel it outside the underwear.
There was like an afro in there.
You had like a covering over like the forest.
kyle dunnigan
The buffer.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was like somebody threw like...
kyle dunnigan
Jackson 5 haircut.
joe rogan
Somebody threw a parachute over treetops and you could just touch it.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, I was an adult when I realized, like, I thought it was just like a Barbie doll.
Like, I didn't really know that there was so much going on until...
joe rogan
There was a funny moment when I was in high school.
There was this girl that I was dating at the time.
It was actually right after high school.
And she had this guy that she...
We had fooled around a bunch of times.
Fooled around, don't fool around for a few months.
Fooled around, that kind of thing.
And she had some boyfriend that she was dating for a while.
And this boyfriend apparently got her to shave her pussy.
And while we were fooling around, she's like, I can't, I can't.
I go, what's the matter?
She goes, I can't show you.
I go, you can't show me what?
And she was like, he made me shave.
I go, he made you shave?
She goes, I don't want you to see it so embarrassing.
I go, I don't give a shit.
I go, so you don't have any hair down there.
I was like, but it was weird.
That's the first time I'd ever seen a shave box.
I was like, whoa, look at all this.
It was like my beard, right?
It was like this, I shaved like three days ago.
So it was like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like it was coming back, but it was coming back, and she was Italian, so it was just chaos.
It was coming back.
It was the whole fucking...
kyle dunnigan
Women really do.
They have to wax that all the time.
joe rogan
They have to do everything.
They have to shave their feet.
They have to shave their legs.
They have to shave everything.
Everything that's got hair on it.
kyle dunnigan
Me Too hasn't hit that area.
joe rogan
Well, that's not what it is.
Me Too is about sexual harassment and assault.
It's not supposed to be about grooming choices.
kyle dunnigan
Maybe Me Too is wrong.
joe rogan
Me Too should...
I hate to shave my legs.
Me Too!
unidentified
Your idea of what Me Too is is so ridiculous.
kyle dunnigan
I haven't been reading up on Me Too.
That's not what Me Too is?
joe rogan
You just don't read.
What is Me Too?
Anything they're upset at?
kyle dunnigan
Feminism.
I should have said feminism.
joe rogan
Well, they went with the armpits.
They tried to keep the armpits.
Like girls were like keeping the armpits with it.
You have to be super extreme and not shave the legs.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
And to let your ass hair just grow wild, you just have to be a reckless person.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have to be just careless.
You don't care.
kyle dunnigan
You're a renegade.
joe rogan
You're an outsider.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Crazy jungle asshole hair.
kyle dunnigan
Definitely better to be a man in terms of grooming issues.
joe rogan
Oh, 100%.
Yeah.
You just have to be clean.
kyle dunnigan
If your wife said, I'm not shaving anymore, would you have a talk?
Would you say, yeah, it's okay.
Whatever you want.
joe rogan
I would have to figure out a way to get her to play with wax or something like that.
Just rip it all off there.
Lasers.
Play a game with laser tag.
unidentified
Why do you just keep hitting my pussy?
joe rogan
Can you imagine if, like, they had, like, that's how they get rid of it, right?
There's laser hair removal.
But imagine if there was, like, a gun.
You could just drive down the street and shoot people's hair off.
kyle dunnigan
Pew, pew, pew!
I think that's assault.
joe rogan
Hey, you like those eyebrows?
Pew, pew, pew!
kyle dunnigan
Seems very dangerous.
Although, shooting a laser beam, that's how you get LASIK surgery.
Which sounds insane to me.
joe rogan
Is that how they do it?
So some of it is they do with a scalpel, an actual scalpel.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, I thought they just burned your eyeball with a laser beam.
joe rogan
I think some of them they do.
I think there's two different ways to do it.
I think sometimes they do it with an actual scalpel, like a blade.
And I don't know if they think that that's more precise.
kyle dunnigan
The only thing I heard about laser beams before LASIK surgery was don't look at a fucking laser beam.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
That's the whole thing.
joe rogan
Well, here it goes.
Laser pointer burns hole in young boy's eye.
Oh, goddammit.
jamie vernon
It's a story going around.
unidentified
It's a nine-year-old in Greece.
jamie vernon
Has an actual hole burned into his eyeball.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
jamie vernon
From staring at one of those crazy lasers.
unidentified
Might be one of the new ones that are coming out that, like...
jamie vernon
I know, like, you know, remember they went crazy in the 90s?
unidentified
Everyone was buying red pointer lasers.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
There's a new version of them that are really high-powered.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
I think you can light stuff on fire if you're pointing at it long enough.
jamie vernon
People have lit bongs on fire with them.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
I don't know if it's these crazy ones that this same kid used, but there is a new high level.
joe rogan
People are making YouTube videos with them.
What the fuck do you do with his eye now?
Does he just have a hole in it forever?
jamie vernon
It says decrease vision.
joe rogan
So he just has a hole in his vision forever.
unidentified
Yeah, I guess.
kyle dunnigan
He's alright.
joe rogan
Doctors found a large macular hole in the retina of his left eye.
The child reported playing with a green laser pointer repeatedly gazing into the laser beam, they write.
Because of the large size of the hole, the doctors decided on a conservative approach rather than surgery.
Fuck.
Why are you fucking your eyeballs up when you're a little kid?
Because some asshole parent wants to just play with their phone and let that kid shoot laser beams into their eyeballs.
unidentified
Like, hey, who's watching the kid?
joe rogan
How did he get the laser?
Did he have a job?
Did he go to the store and buy it?
What the fuck are you doing with your kid?
kyle dunnigan
You got kids?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
That scares me.
You got to make sure that, you know, they're safe.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do.
Well, you're 47. If you want to do it, you got to do it soon.
kyle dunnigan
No, I got like 30 years.
joe rogan
Oh.
unidentified
To figure this out.
joe rogan
Well, Trump had one when he was 60. Okay.
Barron, he had one when he was like 60, right?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you got time.
kyle dunnigan
I go back and forth.
I don't hear good reviews.
It's never like a clean, do it, it's great.
It's always, get ready.
It's going to change your life.
You got to get ready for...
joe rogan
Do you have a steady gal?
kyle dunnigan
No sleep.
Yeah.
joe rogan
How long?
kyle dunnigan
A year and a half.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
Does she want them?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
How old is she?
She'll be 28 in August.
joe rogan
Nice.
unidentified
Young.
kyle dunnigan
I know, it's young.
It's a good move.
She pursued me.
Just get that out there.
joe rogan
Keep talking.
unidentified
How did it go?
joe rogan
How did it go down on channel 592?
kyle dunnigan
I feel like such...
unidentified
I'm sweating.
joe rogan
Well, if she wants to have kids, she's still young and fertile.
You could probably shoot a live one in there and make a person.
kyle dunnigan
Is that the technical term?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Shoot a live one.
joe rogan
If you go to a doctor, that's how you describe it.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Hey, when you go in there, Kyle, shoot a live round in there.
kyle dunnigan
All right.
unidentified
Like this.
kyle dunnigan
Thanks, Doc.
joe rogan
Make sure you keep her legs up in the air.
You want to make sure it oozes.
Get it oozed down there.
If she rides on top, your swimmers might not make it up the canal, if you know what I'm saying.
kyle dunnigan
Is that a true thing?
You gotta lay him back.
joe rogan
I don't know.
It makes sense.
kyle dunnigan
I'd like to have kids.
I would someday.
joe rogan
Someday.
But you don't have someday.
When you're 47, you really don't have someday.
Because one of the things about autism is a lot of it is connected to the age of the father.
It's not just the age of the mother.
It's the age of the father.
kyle dunnigan
I feel like I've been in a coma.
You know that disease where you fall asleep for 20 years and you wake up?
That's how I feel.
joe rogan
Why?
kyle dunnigan
I don't know.
I don't know where those years went.
I feel like I woke up recently and I'm like, how am I doing?
joe rogan
Now, do you think this is because you weren't doing what you wanted to do?
Because you were just doing a bunch of other shit and the years just kept piling up?
kyle dunnigan
Maybe.
I mean, do you feel...
I guess maybe kids, you can track your life a little easier.
Maybe it's because I didn't have kids.
It sort of seems like one chunk that went by fast.
The kids you can mark years with your kids.
joe rogan
Well, the reality of being a person is, if we really do live to be 80, 90, 100, if you're fucking really lucky, that, if you have $100, it goes quick.
You buy a sandwich, you buy a drink, you get some chips, then you go to the movies, and then you don't have enough for dinner.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's like a dollar here, a dollar there.
A year is not that long.
It's 365 days.
It happens so quick.
The next thing you know, it's two years, and then it's five years, and then 10 years later, and then 30 years later, and then...
Oh, you gotta get your hip replaced, huh?
Whoa, what are you gonna do?
kyle dunnigan
You're saying, I gotta get my shit in order.
That's what you're telling me right here.
You're giving me tough love.
joe rogan
I think you've already done that.
You're getting your shit in order, right?
I mean, I think what you did with starting this Instagram page, like deciding that you can't keep this gig anymore, is very brave and smart.
You realized it.
kyle dunnigan
I appreciate that.
I don't feel like it's brave.
I feel like it was like that fear and not being able to sleep and I was forced.
That's how it feels.
joe rogan
Well, it's probably whatever the fuck it is, your body, the fate of the universe, whatever it is, just telling you, like, you're not, you can't do this anymore.
You can't, you know, and you just listen to it.
Some people don't ever listen, man.
They just start medicating themselves.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they just drone out.
They take SSRIs and they just show up and they just get, everything becomes like a dull medium.
And they just keep doing it over and over and over again.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
I am glad.
I feel right now really thankful.
And just to have being able to do shows, people coming out, it's just, you know, for years it was like up and down all over the place.
And now I feel like I do have some kind of following that I can directly contact.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, you definitely do.
And it's going to keep growing.
I mean, you keep putting out the videos like you're putting out, it's going to keep growing.
There's no way around it.
It's great.
Look, we have so many different avenues now that didn't exist before.
And one of the things that I think is really cool about today versus when I started, I started in 88. Is that there's not like a competitiveness with comedians.
Instead, there's like a hyper-supportiveness.
Everybody's quick to tell you about people who are really good.
Everybody wants everybody to know.
There's no famine anymore.
Because I think before, when there was only one Tonight Show or one Letterman and there was a sitcom and everybody was scrambling for...
You want to get Thursday night at 8 o'clock on NBC? That's where the friend spot is.
Everybody wanted to get in the right spot.
And there's not that anymore.
kyle dunnigan
That's an interesting point.
I hadn't thought of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, now it's like everybody has a YouTube channel or a Twitter page or an Instagram thing or a podcast.
They're all doing their own thing.
And instead of...
Being competitive with other comedians, everybody has everybody on their shows.
All these guys that are top podcasters, we all do everybody's show.
I'm always doing...
Either Joey does my show, or I'll do his show, or I'll do Tom's show, or he'll do my show, or I'll do Duncan's show, or he'll do my...
It's constant back and forth, and everybody's supportive.
It's because it doesn't hurt anybody.
It just helps.
And the more...
If I... If I tell people, you gotta check out Kyle Dunnigan's Instagram page, they're gonna go, and they're gonna say, he's right!
Ah, this is hilarious!
So it's good for everybody.
It's good for me, because they know that I'm not gonna bullshit them, and it's good for anybody else, too.
And it's also good for me, because I want you to do really great, because I want more of those funny videos to watch.
It's good for everybody.
kyle dunnigan
I feel like giving you cash.
joe rogan
Ah!
kyle dunnigan
Luckily.
joe rogan
Just keep taking dives and pool.
kyle dunnigan
Was I? Oh, yeah.
I took a real dive.
unidentified
I was trying really hard.
joe rogan
It's a hard game.
kyle dunnigan
It's been a while since I played.
That's my...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's one of those games.
You're not supposed to take time off of that fucking stupid game.
That's a game that you have to play every day.
kyle dunnigan
Alright, well, we'll play again.
Play in a year.
joe rogan
Okay.
Practice up.
Maybe after the show, you'll play better.
Because you'll be thinking about what you did wrong.
kyle dunnigan
No, I definitely...
Yeah, it was rusty there.
joe rogan
Do you have, like, an ultimate goal?
What you want to do?
kyle dunnigan
With pool?
joe rogan
With stand-up?
What was your career now that you've got momentum?
kyle dunnigan
I'd love to just build the audience and just do bigger venues so I don't have to travel so much.
I'd like to just have a life and be able to do...
joe rogan
Like weekend gigs and then come back.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, and have enough money to be comfortable.
joe rogan
Yeah, those Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday weeks that a lot of people do.
kyle dunnigan
People don't realize you're alone for 23 hours, then you have too much attention for an hour, then you're alone for 23 hours.
If you don't have the right mindset to go out and do stuff and go to the gym, if you're a hermit, you're in real trouble mentally.
joe rogan
Yeah, and a lot of people do.
I think that's what Richard Jenny did.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, a lot of people do wind up hermiting.
Yeah, I always make sure that I exercise and always make sure I do something.
Go out, do something.
It makes a giant difference.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just feel way better.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
I feel like a person.
kyle dunnigan
I need a routine.
Without having a boss or a job, I need a routine.
joe rogan
When you go on the road, do you bring somebody with you?
Like an opening act?
kyle dunnigan
I can't really afford it at this point.
That's another thing.
When you get a bigger audience, you can bring friends.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Right now, I just...
I jog there.
I ride my bike there by myself.
joe rogan
Do you have a basket where you put all your stuff?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
kyle dunnigan
Front basket.
A little ding-ding.
joe rogan
I started bringing people on the road a long time ago, because I had a couple of gigs that I did, and the local guys were so terrible, and it made it so much more excruciating.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, absolutely.
joe rogan
Because you've got to sit through...
This thing about watching someone who just has no idea what the fuck they're doing is...
kyle dunnigan
That's brutal.
joe rogan
And after it's over, you're convinced nothing's funny.
There's nothing funny.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, you hate stand-up as a genre.
joe rogan
You're like, it can't be funny.
Nothing can be funny.
This isn't funny.
Nothing's funny.
Yeah.
It's not funny.
kyle dunnigan
I had a great middle guy, luckily, in the last thing I did.
joe rogan
Oh, that's great.
Where were you?
kyle dunnigan
The American Comedy?
joe rogan
Oh, San Diego.
kyle dunnigan
Yes.
joe rogan
Great gig.
kyle dunnigan
Great.
joe rogan
It's a fun gig.
kyle dunnigan
Nice audience.
joe rogan
It's a fun little area, too, right?
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of drunks.
kyle dunnigan
Awesome.
joe rogan
If you're looking for a gal who's perhaps a little liquored up, it's a good place for you.
I love San Diego, period.
I could live down there.
kyle dunnigan
I think it's voted the number one city to live in.
joe rogan
It's a fucking great place, because it's like a city, but it's not too big.
It has a little bit of traffic, but it's not crazy.
kyle dunnigan
Perfect weather.
Beach, if you want it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it has everything.
It's got restaurants.
People are cool.
Also, the military's there.
It's never gonna get attacked.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
Maybe it is.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, Pearl Harbor.
joe rogan
That's right.
kyle dunnigan
Great cocaine.
You can get great cocaine there.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
Where are you getting it?
unidentified
From Phil?
joe rogan
That's not what I hear.
Oh, Phil.
That guy's an asshole.
kyle dunnigan
I gotta try psychedelics.
Because I've never done them.
joe rogan
But you smoke pot.
kyle dunnigan
Smoke pot.
I eat it at night.
Helps me sleep.
joe rogan
Do you ever try those sprays?
Like Jumbo breath sprays?
kyle dunnigan
No.
Marijuana sprays?
joe rogan
I wish I knew.
I would have brought some for you.
It's the way to go.
kyle dunnigan
Are you going to get free sprays now?
unidentified
No.
kyle dunnigan
Because you mentioned it?
joe rogan
No, I'd buy them.
kyle dunnigan
Do you ever do that?
I would do that.
unidentified
No.
kyle dunnigan
Like, boy, I love, you know, Reebok sneakers.
And then nobody sends you those.
joe rogan
It's easier to just buy them.
kyle dunnigan
People send you stuff, I bet, a lot.
unidentified
They do.
joe rogan
Too much stuff.
kyle dunnigan
I know, isn't it?
joe rogan
Shit I don't want.
kyle dunnigan
It's like the...
You know, you probably want them just to send that to, like, a homeless person or something.
joe rogan
Well, I just don't want them to send it to me.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
kyle dunnigan
We could work out a thing where you give it to me.
joe rogan
Okay.
kyle dunnigan
And then don't worry about it.
joe rogan
And then you'll just have, like, fucking Kanye wear it in one of your bits.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
400, like, monster drink cases.
joe rogan
He's holding it just inconspicuously as he talks.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, that's what I could do.
Monetize.
joe rogan
Product placement.
kyle dunnigan
I'm not gonna monetize.
I'd like to, like, keep it.
I mean, we're joking, but like...
joe rogan
Have Caitlyn just drinking monster drinks.
kyle dunnigan
These are fantastic!
joe rogan
They give me so much energy.
Ever since I chopped my nads off, I've been kinda slow.
unidentified
What I wouldn't chop off is this.
joe rogan
I wonder if that does happen.
That happened to my dog.
I got him fixed, and he became very listless.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, really?
joe rogan
He was like, what's the point?
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
What's the point, man?
kyle dunnigan
How old's your dog?
joe rogan
Well, he was, at the time, he was five.
When I got his...
unidentified
When I got his...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Got him a little snippy.
kyle dunnigan
I got a tiny dog, which isn't a great look for a man, but...
joe rogan
What kind of dog?
kyle dunnigan
Love it.
It's a pug-chihuahua mix.
joe rogan
Aww.
kyle dunnigan
The way I talk to my dog is...
It's offensive to me as a man.
Like, I don't tell myself...
I don't give my permission...
Like, my dog was licking her paws, and this just came out of me.
I went...
Are you licking your stinkies?
unidentified
Stinkies?
kyle dunnigan
That came out of it.
I'm a grown man.
I didn't say like, oh, let me ask her if she's licking her stinkies.
joe rogan
But why stinkies?
kyle dunnigan
I don't know.
It wasn't even stinkies.
It was like tinkies.
I was like, are you licking your tinkies?
joe rogan
Have you called them tinkies before?
kyle dunnigan
No, it just came out of me.
But then I was like, maybe this is me.
Because I'm alone with my dog.
Maybe I talk like this.
Maybe this is my truth.
joe rogan
I have a dog that's about to die.
I have one of my one of my dogs is 13. He's a Mastiff and he's it's really bad.
He can't walk anymore It takes like for him to come in to eat.
It takes several minutes Several minutes of him walking, you know five six yards It's like we adopt these terminally ill children, because you get attached to them, like you're kids, and you wouldn't adopt a kid who's going to die at 14. Well, I have him, and I have another dog who's also very old, who's a Shibu Inu English Bulldog mix.
He's a little bit better, but he's...
He's not gonna make it very much longer either.
He's got real problems walking as well.
But then I have Marshall, who's a year and six months, and he's a golden retriever.
He's the total opposite.
He just fucking leaps into the pool, and he runs around the pool in circles, and he goes running with me in the hills, and he's a fucking, just a ball of energy and love and happiness.
And you just get to see him at this stage, and I'm like, damn, one day Marshall's gonna be 13. I'm gonna see Marshall Like these dogs, it's gonna be just a giant struggle.
It's harsh.
kyle dunnigan
It's really hard.
I mean...
joe rogan
It's fucking hard, man.
unidentified
I don't know what it's like to have kids, but I feel like very...
kyle dunnigan
I get really attached to my dogs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it's that times a million.
With kids, it's that times a million.
One of the things that changed with me is the way I look at people.
Because I always considered people just, you know, I meet you, you're 47. I just think, well, Kyle's 47. That's what he is.
But I didn't know you when you were two.
And now when I meet people, and I meet people like, I meet some old asshole.
I'm like, that old dickhead.
He used to be a little baby.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
He was a baby.
Yeah.
And he became this old dickhead.
Like, how did this happen?
Like, what went wrong?
And I'm so much more compassionate.
I'm so much more...
I care about people so much more.
And I care about...
I think...
I give them more of a break.
I give people way more of a break.
And I notice this is something that...
I don't see as much in single guys who don't have children.
There's something about it that the world is dog-eat-dog.
You're competing for your career.
You're competing for love interests.
You're competing for this and that.
And everybody's like, fuck that guy and fuck him.
Nobody looks at people and goes, oh, that could have been my son.
That's a little baby that became this weirdo 28-year-old man.
kyle dunnigan
That's one thing I hear about having kids that is very attractive to me, that it does shift your perspective and gives this whole new view on life.
unidentified
Massively.
joe rogan
Changed who I am.
Changed who I am and permanently.
kyle dunnigan
You scared me about that autistic thing, though, really bad.
joe rogan
Well, it's real, you know?
There's a correlation.
There's a correlation between older men and higher instances of autism.
kyle dunnigan
You got the percentages?
You got some statistics for me?
joe rogan
Oh, it's right here for you.
kyle dunnigan
Great.
joe rogan
I mean, look, a lot of people do it and they're fine.
And it's going to help for sure that your gal's young.
She's not even 30. Yeah.
Shoot a live one down there.
unidentified
Yeah, baby.
joe rogan
One right down the old tube.
unidentified
Right there.
joe rogan
Just get to two years.
Get to two years.
You guys have been together a year and a half?
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, make it to two years.
kyle dunnigan
Almost.
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
When you hit two, remove the goalie.
kyle dunnigan
Oh.
joe rogan
And start shooting pucks.
Bam, bam, bam from the free throw line.
Woo!
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, it seems like an important life experience to have.
joe rogan
It is.
And it's not for everybody.
And one of the things that used to drive me crazy when I was single is people would say, you know, you have to have kids.
unidentified
You don't have kids.
joe rogan
You're not living a normal life.
That's crazy.
That's so stupid.
That is such a...
Like, the idea that you can't be a complete human being unless you recreate...
kyle dunnigan
Recreate.
joe rogan
What's the word I'm looking for?
unidentified
Reproduce.
joe rogan
How come that word wouldn't come out?
kyle dunnigan
It's not that far off though, recreate another me.
joe rogan
But why wasn't reproduce like right there?
kyle dunnigan
I was having trouble with anecdote, don't worry.
joe rogan
Yeah, antidote, anecdote, but those are super close.
But you can be a fucking completely fulfilled person and never get married and never have a kid.
You just have to have good friends and enjoy what you do.
There's nothing wrong with that.
So I used to drive me crazy.
It's a little what?
kyle dunnigan
I just remember being a kid and my uncle wasn't married or had kids and I was always like, huh?
What's up with him?
joe rogan
Smart.
kyle dunnigan
What's up with that guy?
joe rogan
He's partying.
unidentified
He's going the Bill Maher route.
Do you people...
kyle dunnigan
Was that getting me into Bill Maher?
joe rogan
Do you have a Bill Maher character?
unidentified
Do you people?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I do Bill Maher.
unidentified
Oh, you do.
joe rogan
That's right, you do.
I saw you did...
kyle dunnigan
You're one of those people.
Who thinks you're one of those people?
You're not.
Okay.
Okay, you don't.
You're wrong.
unidentified
You people.
kyle dunnigan
There's no God.
unidentified
Okay?
kyle dunnigan
And if you think there is...
He's very like...
unidentified
I know everything.
I kind of do agree with a lot of what he says.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a smart guy.
That show's a weird show.
Everybody talking over each other.
Five people on a panel.
Whatever it is.
Four.
Whatever the fuck.
So many people.
kyle dunnigan
Did you see the Ben Affleck one?
joe rogan
Yes, with Sam Harris.
Sam's a friend of mine.
kyle dunnigan
I love Sam.
joe rogan
I love Sam too.
That was hilarious.
I think Ben Affleck was roided up.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, because of Batman.
That's right.
joe rogan
I really did.
kyle dunnigan
He had that energy.
joe rogan
Well, he also was kind of red and thick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
His neck was thick.
Listen, when you're 40, whatever the fuck age he is, and you want to pack on that kind of muscles, there's only one way to tell you.
You gotta fucking take that plunger.
kyle dunnigan
Get a prick poop shoot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's what I think.
I think he was juiced up.
And I think he just was hyper-aggressive, virtue signaling, and really didn't even know what the fuck he was talking about.
And clearly picked the wrong guy.
kyle dunnigan
Oh my god.
I would never argue with Sam Harris.
I think about it.
I think the fact that he can't be president really pisses me off.
joe rogan
Why can't he be?
kyle dunnigan
I want a guy who's smarter than me.
joe rogan
Well, he could be president.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
I don't think he wants to be.
kyle dunnigan
I don't think he can being an atheist.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
kyle dunnigan
It's like, I don't get this whole thing of like, I want to vote for this guy.
I can relate to him.
He's like me.
I don't want a guy like me.
joe rogan
Right.
kyle dunnigan
It's like wanting a babysitter.
I want a babysitter.
I want someone who's...
joe rogan
Superior.
kyle dunnigan
Exactly.
Smarter.
I mean, he's very meditative, Sam, and calm.
joe rogan
I firmly believe no one should be president.
I think there should be a council of wise people.
kyle dunnigan
I love that idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Like the Jedi Council.
joe rogan
Like fucking eight people or something.
Just really, really smart people that have, you know, have...
I know.
And I think they should all have had to do mushrooms.
All of them.
kyle dunnigan
Well, I don't know about that.
joe rogan
All have to do psychedelic experiences.
All of them...
kyle dunnigan
They should be high.
joe rogan
Not do mushrooms while they're on the job, but have in the past where they understand there's more to life than this thing.
kyle dunnigan
That's part of the platform.
The person needs to be like, I did try mushrooms.
joe rogan
Didn't just try.
unidentified
And they've got your vote.
joe rogan
No, you gotta...
Oh, do a lot.
unidentified
Deep.
joe rogan
You gotta take the heroic dose.
kyle dunnigan
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I love that idea.
A little think tank.
joe rogan
Yeah, eight people.
Super wise people.
I don't really think the mushroom thing is necessary.
But considerate, wise, objective people that care and have a deep sense of responsibility to sort of...
Guide our country in the best way possible, rather than for their own interests.
kyle dunnigan
Exactly.
I put Neil deGrasse Tyson on this board, too.
unidentified
He'll be great.
joe rogan
Well, he'll be great for some sort of a role as a science educator in the government anyways.
What's great about Neil is he's one of the first guys in our lifetime that made science fun, made astrophysics interesting.
kyle dunnigan
He's so enthusiastic.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
I fucking love that guy.
kyle dunnigan
If we have aliens, we've got to send one guy to aliens.
Send Neil deGrasse Tyson.
joe rogan
Well, he's also...
Even though he'll be talking to someone who is...
Doesn't really understand what he's saying.
He's not an elitist.
kyle dunnigan
Exactly.
The way he argues, he's caring about the person and kind of guiding him.
joe rogan
He's a master at it.
He's a really likable guy.
But he is like that all the time.
He's like that when the camera's off.
He's just a great guy.
kyle dunnigan
And one quality he has that rarely does someone who's really smart have is he's a big laugher.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
It's like a perfect human.
joe rogan
No, he's a fun guy.
You know, he used to be a wrestler.
kyle dunnigan
Talking about mushrooms.
Huh?
joe rogan
He used to be a wrestler.
kyle dunnigan
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he wrestled in high school.
unidentified
He was jacked.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, yeah, he was kind of built like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think he wrestled in college, too.
He was jacked.
Like, fucking jacked.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
He's an all-around quality human.
joe rogan
Yes.
kyle dunnigan
Sam Harris, too, the way he argues just stays calm.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Well, he doesn't argue about things he doesn't understand either.
You know, like, if Sam has a conversation and, say, like, he's having a conversation with someone about whatever the fuck it is, some discipline that's outside of his realm, and then, you know, he'll ask questions.
He's not a know-it-all.
kyle dunnigan
That's how you learn.
People forget.
joe rogan
But if he's talking to you about something and he's arguing, it's because he understands what he's talking about.
That's a rare quality, man.
There's so many people that want to argue about shit that they really don't even understand.
I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing things that you really don't understand, to try to understand them, especially if you're doing it in a casual conversation or even a podcast.
But there's a lot of fucking people that argue shit and they're just trying to win.
They're just trying to score points.
They're not really talking.
You get a lot of that, right?
unidentified
I do it a lot.
kyle dunnigan
But I'm more aware of it watching people who don't do it.
You learn...
joe rogan
It's a normal thing.
You get caught up in your idea and then you want your idea to be right.
And then you kind of like chase down all the evidence that would show that your idea is right.
You see this all the time when someone gets accused of something and we don't know exactly what happened.
You see the groups of people that automatically want to think that person is guilty and automatically have a preconceived idea of what went down and how it went down, regardless of what the other person said.
They only want to look at it one way.
It just gets real weird with people.
kyle dunnigan
It's harder now with all the information.
You have to be a little more...
You know what?
joe rogan
Hashtag fake news?
kyle dunnigan
Hashtag, hashtag...
I'll come back.
I'll get smarter and come back.
joe rogan
What kind of smart?
You gonna get book smart?
kyle dunnigan
I'm gonna get Sam Harris, Neil deGrasse Tyson smart.
joe rogan
If I gave you a pill, and the pill would make you super smart, but you wouldn't be funny anymore, would you take it?
kyle dunnigan
Would I be happy?
That's a good question.
joe rogan
No one can decide whether or not you're going to be happy but you.
kyle dunnigan
What am I going to do with...
joe rogan
That's up to you, Kyle Dunnigan.
kyle dunnigan
I don't think I'd take it.
I think there's some torture and...
unidentified
Would you stay stupid and funny?
kyle dunnigan
I never said, hey!
No one's not stupid.
joe rogan
Would you stay half retarded and funny like you are now?
kyle dunnigan
I did get very little oxygen when I was born.
I was purple and they were like, this one might come out a little goofy.
We have to wait and see if he starts talking.
And then I started talking like, oh, he's alright.
joe rogan
Really?
kyle dunnigan
But I have a theory that I was born a genius, got a little retarded, and now I'm kind of normal.
unidentified
It's just a theory, but a retarded genius came up with it.
joe rogan
Might not be a bad theory.
I mean, what a roll of the dice, whether you're born super smart or not.
It's a roll of the dice.
unidentified
Oh, everything is.
joe rogan
There's some people that just have better brains.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's some people that are just really good at math.
I used to have a friend, my friend Johnny, you could just yell out math problems to him.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like five times five, minus six, divided by seven, multiplied by a hundred, divided by three, and he would go 16. What the fuck and like someone would be sitting next to him with a calculator and they would like try to keep up He could do it as fast as someone could type it in with a calculator.
unidentified
Yeah, it was bizarre and useless talent Calculators asshole Bummer you weren't born 200 years ago.
kyle dunnigan
Batteries are everywhere We need you My phone is a calculator Not to bring up Sam Harris again, but that whole free will book.
That kind of...
joe rogan
That's a mindfuck.
kyle dunnigan
It really is, because your mind doesn't want to believe it.
It's like not believing in heaven.
You want to believe it.
It's hard to...
It's just hard, but there's definitely so much luck involved in who your parents were, how you were raised.
joe rogan
Life experiences, for sure.
You know, whether or not you've ever been attacked, assaulted, robbed, whether you've been in an accident, or you got gravely injured.
There's so many variables that are just fortunate.
Just luck.
Yeah, there's so many...
kyle dunnigan
Or someone danced with you.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you got a bonehead.
kyle dunnigan
Your mom was at a wedding.
joe rogan
Whatever.
Yeah, there's...
There's so many things that you just fucking luck.
Well, look, we're all lucky we're here.
We weren't born in the jungle of Guatemala somewhere.
kyle dunnigan
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're just lucky.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, you won a huge, won a trillion lottery to be born.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
And then to be born in the U.S. at this time where we have air conditioning and GPS. Jesus.
Why don't we revere science more?
If there's a God, he's saying, I'm rewarding you every time you listen to science.
And yet, so much of religion is against science.
I don't know.
Look, I don't know.
joe rogan
Because science is saying, hey, nobody comes back from the dead after three days.
Hey, people can't really walk on water.
Hey, why did he turn water into wine?
Why didn't he just make wine?
He's fucking magic.
kyle dunnigan
I never thought of that.
joe rogan
Stop with the magic trick, bro.
We're trying to get fucked up.
Just make us some wine.
Hey, I'm tired of wine.
You got any whiskey in that?
In those magic robes?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, the miracles were sort of like...
unidentified
Stupid.
joe rogan
They're fucking parlor tricks.
His miracles are horrible.
You know what was the best?
There was a thing back in the 80s called the Power Team for Jesus.
And what they were was these dudes that would do like feats of strength for Jesus.
Like they would fucking break bricks with their head.
They would rip phone books in half.
They would lift up heavy weights and do it for Jesus.
kyle dunnigan
Wow.
Like Jesus gave them the power.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was also like, hey, dude, Jesus is...
He's magic.
He's got magic.
Like, he's not going to be impressed by you breaking a board with your extra thick skull, you fucking idiot.
kyle dunnigan
Wow, look at one of my children down there.
joe rogan
You never heard of them?
No, I... Dude, I used to watch them all the time.
They were on, like, this religious channel.
And I used to watch the Power Team for Jesus going, what in the fuck is this?
kyle dunnigan
That's amazing.
joe rogan
It was so...
Have you found anything on it?
unidentified
I found a lot.
I'm trying to find a good one to share.
kyle dunnigan
Those guys are the 3rd Street Promenade.
joe rogan
There he is!
unidentified
This is the power team for Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah, see?
They break bricks.
unidentified
Yes, for Jesus!
joe rogan
I broke this brick for the Lord!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
And steroids, for sure!
unidentified
There goes the devil!
Yes!
Ah!
Yeah!
joe rogan
I'd use my head!
Oh, yeah!
unidentified
Oh, look, the axe kicked it.
joe rogan
Whoa, whoa.
It seems a little too easy to break those.
kyle dunnigan
They're really making a mess for Jesus.
joe rogan
Ooh, he drops an elbow down.
kyle dunnigan
Ooh, I'm going to blow up this balloon for Jesus.
joe rogan
Oh, they blow it up until it explodes.
That's why they have to wear goggles on.
unidentified
It's like a hot water balloon.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a bladder.
kyle dunnigan
That's not...
This trick is not great.
joe rogan
Oh, wax you right in the face.
This is so stupid.
unidentified
The song Boom.
joe rogan
Here comes the boom!
kyle dunnigan
Oh, he ripped a phone bus.
joe rogan
What's that?
What is that?
unidentified
I thought it was P.O.D. That's saliva.
joe rogan
P.O.D. is a Christian rock band.
P.O.D.? P.O.D.? Yeah, payable on death.
kyle dunnigan
What's the goal here?
joe rogan
Christian rock, yeah.
That's like...
They have some great fucking songs.
They definitely do.
Yeah.
Here comes the boom.
Yeah, it's Rook.
He's ripping phone books in half for Jesus.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Look at this.
He's bending a bar for Jesus.
kyle dunnigan
Jesus is going to love this.
joe rogan
And by the way, this is a newer power team.
This is not the original power team.
unidentified
It's power team 2.0.
joe rogan
Oh, is it?
Well, the older guys are dead from steroids.
kyle dunnigan
1990. They're all with Jesus now.
joe rogan
Is this a 1991?
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Brad Tuttle.
joe rogan
Look at the fucking mullet, bro.
And shaved armpits, by the way.
Notice that.
Right?
That guy's got shaved armpits.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, Jesus loves that.
joe rogan
Look at the pants.
Those puffy pants.
Those gym pants.
Hold on.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
What's he saying?
unidentified
Big bad boy, I was walking in.
All my friends were inside.
And the door shut behind me.
joe rogan
Where's your armpit at, bro?
unidentified
Right when the door shut.
*crying* Jesus took the blinders and rolled them right off my eyes.
And inside that bar, for the first time in my life, I saw the world of what it really had to offer me.
You know what it was?
A big fat zero.
I got in my car.
I drove home with my wife.
We got inside our apartment.
My wife went and sat on the couch.
I paced back and forth in the living room like a lion who was chained down to everything the world passed by him.
And I was chained down.
I said I've looked all my life to find one thing!
joe rogan
This is for people where pro wrestling is a little too heady.
kyle dunnigan
Pro wrestling without the other guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's for people who think pro wrestling is too complicated.
I don't get what they're saying in pro wrestling.
There's too many people, too many moving pieces.
It hurts my brain.
I like this.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, that was a huge crowd.
joe rogan
Dude, that's like 25 plus thousand people.
That place is giant.
kyle dunnigan
I'm in the wrong business.
joe rogan
Yeah, look, they lift things up for the Lord.
Oh, what happened to the mullet, bro?
Got rid of the mullet.
What the fuck, dude?
kyle dunnigan
Is he going to jump rope?
joe rogan
It looks bigger, too.
He did more roids and got rid of the mullet.
His head grew.
His forehead's larger.
unidentified
Multiple guys there, too.
joe rogan
Multiple people.
Are they going to throw him into a pit or something?
This is crazy.
I wonder if he has the same speech or if he gives a different one every time.
Oh, that's the same guy, bro.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, the mullet guy's right behind him.
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Yeah, he's got the chains on.
joe rogan
They're the same human.
Yeah, they're the same guy.
It's a clone.
unidentified
Tag team partner, I think.
joe rogan
Maybe they're twins.
They're tag team partners?
unidentified
Oh.
The first time I ever saw them was on Jerry Springer or something.
Oh, maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe they had to smash people.
On Jerry Springer.
Sometimes they had to find out who's the baby mama.
Oh, that's Maury.
Maury was who's the baby daddy.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
Here's your baby daddy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Has anybody contacted you from them?
kyle dunnigan
The Kardashians?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No.
What would you do?
unidentified
I wonder if they've seen it.
joe rogan
They slid into your DMs.
You saw a DM and it was Kanye.
You see the blue check mark.
You're like, oh, Jesus Christ.
kyle dunnigan
I would snap a photo and post it.
joe rogan
I'm tired of Caitlyn too.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, you need to be on my side?
joe rogan
Record a fat beat.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I would love that.
joe rogan
Would you?
kyle dunnigan
Obviously.
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like, would they be mad?
I don't think they'd be mad.
joe rogan
Whenever I do a comedy special, one of the things that I do is I have a moment of panic after I'm done.
I smoke pot, and I get super paranoid, and I go, oh, I shouldn't have done that bit.
And the last one was my Caitlyn Jenner bit.
kyle dunnigan
I, by the way, love that bit.
This is how you know it's a good bit.
I was like, oh, I wish I'd thought of that.
You know, you go, oh, yeah, that's the angle.
joe rogan
But it was...
Well, I had to think for so long how to do that.
And the way to do it was just to shit on myself first.
And then also have a lot of truth in it about how, like, I've never been happier, but I've never been more of a bitch.
I live in a house filled with girls.
There's all women in my house.
I don't...
I have zero say in, like, where things go or what color things are.
It's all...
It's easier, too, to just let them run.
I want them to be happy.
And I don't need my masculine energy everywhere.
And that's also one of the nice things about this place.
This place is clearly like a big old...
kyle dunnigan
This is a bro warehouse.
joe rogan
It's a bro house, bro.
It's a fucking bro warehouse.
But, um, so...
I felt like, oh, that's the thing, because they're turning me softer, for sure.
Like, living with all these women, I've changed the way I communicate and think and behave.
I'm turning into a bitch.
I'm like, I've never been more of a bitch in my life.
So the idea was, like, if my manhood was a mountain of marbles, I'm like, every day they take two.
It's like...
What's the big deal?
You have so many marbles.
God, Dad, why do you care?
Why do you even care?
And then I'm like, I'm seeing where this is going.
And then I said, okay, this is what it is.
That's where the bit is.
The bit is, I'm not going out like Bruce Jenner.
And then I'm like, everybody's like, he's always been a woman.
Like, maybe, maybe, or maybe if you live with crazy bitches long enough, you fucking become one.
kyle dunnigan
And Kanye, you don't like what you're saying.
joe rogan
I don't like what I'm saying.
He's going crazy.
He's clearly going crazy.
You live with crazy people.
So that bit was one of the ones where after I released it, I'm like, oh, that poor girl.
She doesn't need me to be pretending that she got seduced by demons in the middle of the night while she's sleeping.
But it was so fun to do.
It was also a fucked up bit to do because in order to do it, I literally had to think like a demon.
Like I would think like I was trying to seduce her.
Like I was whispering in her ear like a demon.
unidentified
Like, Bruce.
joe rogan
We would like you better.
kyle dunnigan
Wow, there's no effect on that.
unidentified
If you're one of us.
kyle dunnigan
You can just do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
That's really hard.
joe rogan
I can't.
I can't be one of you.
I was born a man.
kyle dunnigan
Not in sense.
You see the old footage of the old Kardashian shows, and Bruce will come in like, you girls and your makeup, and walk down pissed off.
joe rogan
Apparently he was cross-dressing that whole time.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, since he was younger.
joe rogan
You know what?
There's a theory by one of the guys who was in the Olympics with him that everybody was roided up back then.
Everybody.
They just gave everybody steroids.
And one of the things that happens to men when they take large doses of steroids is that your testosterone shuts down.
Your body just shuts down.
kyle dunnigan
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And there's a real...
There's a depression period.
There's a lot of weird things that happen to men.
One of the other things that happens is your body starts producing way more estrogen.
You get something called bitch tits.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Ever see that?
unidentified
I got those.
joe rogan
No, it's different.
It's called gynomastica.
And gynomastica comes from introducing too much exogenous testosterone into your system.
Your body starts producing estrogen to sort of balance it out.
And in that process, you grow tits.
Literally.
Yeah.
So what this person from the...
I don't remember if they named the person who it was, but they were saying that all of this happened right when Bruce got off steroids, like right after the Olympics.
Like he saw this transition taking place where he was just baffled and confused.
kyle dunnigan
Well, I heard that when he was a kid, he used to steal his mom's or sister's clothes or something like that.
I heard.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Maybe.
That makes more sense.
kyle dunnigan
I don't like that you feel tortured and that must be awful.
I really feel comfortable making...
I don't make fun of her genitalia or something, but she's really a ridiculous person.
Besides forgetting the transgender thing, she's really funny.
joe rogan
Well, how about the fucking kill the lady and never bring it up?
Just that alone.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, that is...
joe rogan
I mean, all the conversations afterwards, all the interviews afterwards, it wasn't this existential crisis of having accidentally killed someone and being at this point in your life where you're like, oh my god, I don't have much time to live and I just sent some woman to her grave because I wasn't paying attention at the wheel of my Escalade.
That never got brought up.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I don't know what she felt behind closed doors, but it didn't seem like it slowed her down at all.
I think I'd take a month off and be like, I gotta not be out in public, and I feel horrible, and I'm gonna take care of this family somehow.
joe rogan
She was on Sephora trying on different eye shades.
kyle dunnigan
I don't know why we care.
She wasn't even famous.
Did you know that?
Press doesn't talk about that!
unidentified
Who cares?!
joe rogan
You're so good at that impression.
You could do her on stage and you don't even need the face swap.
People would just start laughing.
They know what you're doing.
kyle dunnigan
When I did it at Largo, I got fully dressed up and I put glasses on and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh no, you didn't.
kyle dunnigan
And I was back...
joe rogan
Did he introduce you as Caitlyn Jenner?
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, yeah.
No, I came out as like...
It was a big risk.
And Zach Galifianakis was backstage.
I'm like, I don't know where I was going to go.
And he was like, I've dressed up as a woman, and I'll just say this.
It's a longer fall when it fails, which is true.
If you get all dressed up and you bomb, it's like...
joe rogan
Darkness.
kyle dunnigan
That scared me.
joe rogan
Darkness.
Darkness falls.
unidentified
Darkness falls.
joe rogan
It's lucky that she's ridiculous enough that you could point things out.
Like, this is one of the things that people always say about, you know, when people are clamoring about what a great person Hillary Clinton was.
I'm like, do you know that she didn't endorse gay marriage until 2013?
She was against gay marriage.
kyle dunnigan
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Against gay marriage until 2013. She's a fucking ridiculous person.
There's hundreds of videos of her lying.
You hear what she said and you hear what the truth is.
You hear the Comey investigation, what the FBI found, the deleted emails.
unidentified
Benghazi.
joe rogan
Benghazi.
She's just not an honest person.
Maybe that's part of the job.
I don't know.
But if you bring that up to people, they have less of an argument.
Well, with Caitlyn, you bring up the fact that she's against gay marriage.
And people go, wait, what?
No.
Are you serious?
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here, I'm gonna play you something.
And then your player's saying, well, I'm a traditional girl.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
It really is so mind-blowing that it went over...
You almost can't...
I can't really wrap my head around...
That's gotta be a joke.
I can't believe...
joe rogan
But people don't seem to care that much.
They seem to be like letting that slide.
They don't see how fucking ridiculous that is.
kyle dunnigan
Very hypocritical.
joe rogan
Just crazy.
It's crazy is what it is.
It's like mentally unstable.
There's bad processing going on.
kyle dunnigan
I mean, there's no sense or empathy to put that on.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
kyle dunnigan
You're right there.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
First of all, the thing about gay marriage to me has always been, who gives a fuck?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Are we pretending that they don't love each other?
Like, what are we doing?
Are we pretending that it's immoral?
Okay, well, if it's a moral thing, then we have a real argument.
What is morality if it's not two people that love each other?
You have a problem with the fact that they're both boys?
They've done scientific studies that have shown that they have a different pattern to the way their brain thinks.
They can show the difference in the way, especially with trans kids and trans people.
They're showing with fMRIs and all these different ways of measuring, like their brains appear to work more like a woman's brain than they do like a man's brain.
There's something going on.
It's not as simple as delusions.
And then with gay people, there's clearly something going on where they're attracted only to the same sex.
It's like a biological issue.
And this issue is, it exists.
So to pretend that they're supposed to ignore that for your benefit.
kyle dunnigan
Right.
Todd, you know Todd Glass?
unidentified
Sure.
kyle dunnigan
He brought up a great, insightful thing.
Because he lived a lot, people didn't know he was gay.
So he heard guys talking or people who were like, you know, homophobic or whatever.
And his point of view was like, he thinks a lot of this is from people imagine the act and they're grossed out and it really bothers them.
And he was saying, do you want to imagine your sister giving a blowjob?
No, it's disgusting, but you want her to feel loved and you want her to have that happiness.
And that's all he was asking for.
I thought that was an insightful thing.
joe rogan
I think a lot of times, too, it's just lack of exposure to gay people when you're young in particular.
Yeah, that's true.
Having them be accepted by your family and other people.
When I was a kid, I got really lucky.
I lived in San Francisco from the time I was 7 to 11. And we were around a lot of gay people.
My next door neighbors were gay and they would get naked with my aunt and they would play the bongos.
They would smoke pot and play the bongos.
Because it was San Francisco in the 70s.
You were lucky.
To me, gay people were just like, it was a normal thing.
It was just, this guy's gay, this guy's black, this guy's old, this guy, you know, just a person.
Just a different kind of person.
And then I moved to Florida.
When I was 11, we moved to Florida.
We moved to Gainesville.
kyle dunnigan
You basically moved to a different country.
joe rogan
I moved to Planet Stupid and these people that I lived, I had my friend, his name was Candy, Candido, and he was a Cuban kid and his dad was fucking super homophobic.
And so I remember I went over his house once after school to play and his dad was like, I can't believe these fucking faggots want to get married.
Believe this shit and he's throwing the newspaper down on the table.
And I remember I was 11, right?
And I was like, what's wrong with this fucking dummy?
Why does he care?
Like, why is this bothering him at all?
It didn't even make sense to me.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, there's a lot of people, real rage underneath it all.
joe rogan
I think they're scared of being gay, and I don't want anybody to think they're gay.
It's just putting it off.
kyle dunnigan
And it may be like the act disgusts them, but all sex is disgusting.
I mean, all of it.
joe rogan
You're doing it wrong.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, I am?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll talk to you after the show.
After the show, give me some pointers.
kyle dunnigan
Something was off.
joe rogan
Maybe that's why you haven't had a kid yet.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I've been trying for 30 years.
I've been trying.
Put it in the butt like you're supposed to.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
No.
kyle dunnigan
Don't do that.
How long have we been talking?
I feel like I've been talking for...
joe rogan
Two hours and 40 minutes.
Somewhere around there.
You want to wrap it up?
kyle dunnigan
I'm a gabber, huh?
joe rogan
No, we always do this.
kyle dunnigan
Oh.
What is a normal length of a show?
joe rogan
Probably around that.
kyle dunnigan
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
You do this twice a week?
joe rogan
This week, four times.
kyle dunnigan
Wow.
You're banking a few.
joe rogan
No.
They go live.
We're streaming live.
And then afterwards we'll put it up on iTunes and it'll upload to YouTube in a little bit.
kyle dunnigan
You got a whole thing going.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I have too many guests' requests.
It's like there's almost too many.
And I love doing it.
So I just do a bunch of them.
kyle dunnigan
Who's your favorite guest?
Kyle Dunnigan.
Wow.
This is great.
joe rogan
I don't have one.
I'm so lucky.
I've had so many great guests.
I really don't have a favorite.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, you do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, I discovered Sam Harris through.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
kyle dunnigan
So I have pretty good guests.
joe rogan
The problem is, your impression has replaced her real voice.
In my mind, if I see her on TV, I'm like, yeah, well.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
unidentified
So I got my size 17 chimichurri.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not sure what she sounds like anymore.
It might be different.
joe rogan
So, do you have mapped out future ones that you're working on right now?
kyle dunnigan
I have a couple.
I actually have like a song I just recorded.
I can play a second.
Because I heard that she hits from the ladies tease.
joe rogan
No!
unidentified
In golf?
kyle dunnigan
I don't even want to research it because I don't want it to not be true.
But that's what I heard.
So I wrote a song about her hitting from the ladies' tees.
Do you have an internet?
Because my phone is broken.
I need internet.
I could do a world premiere right now.
joe rogan
Okay.
Like, Jamie can look something up.
kyle dunnigan
Well, no, it's in my email.
joe rogan
Oh, you need our Wi-Fi password?
unidentified
I'll type it in first.
joe rogan
Here, give it to Jamie.
He'll type it in there.
Your phone's just...
kyle dunnigan
It died.
joe rogan
But it's working.
kyle dunnigan
No, it doesn't do phone calls.
I got Wi-Fi, but that's it.
And it dies sometimes for no reason.
I went to the 18-2 store before this.
I've got to go to the Apple store.
There's a major problem.
This isn't interesting, but anyway.
joe rogan
There's a power cord next to you, too.
I had my phone break.
My phone broke in Hawaii because I was, uh, I just dropped it too many times.
It started making random phone calls.
I could open the contact screen and start calling people.
I'd hang up.
Call somebody else.
I'd hang up.
Well, Lucky is no one in my contacts that I don't like.
But when it did that, I had to...
And then it totally stopped where it wouldn't let me punch in my code to unlock it.
It was just fucked.
Wouldn't recognize my face.
It was like, fuck you.
It was dead.
So I ordered one and I had to get it shipped and I was in Lanai, which is a really small island.
So it takes a few days to get an iPhone there.
It took three days.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was a beautiful three days.
kyle dunnigan
Best three days of your life.
joe rogan
Three days with no phone.
Just chilling.
kyle dunnigan
Yesterday I could not get...
joe rogan
What's so funny?
jamie vernon
There's an article I just found where he...
unidentified
I'm sorry.
She was talking about...
joe rogan
Should I hit for the men's team?
Let's vote on it.
She said...
unidentified
Craig T. Nelson's comment.
joe rogan
I played golf with you for 30 years before Caitlyn Nelson said, I know how you hit, so it wasn't prejudice.
unidentified
He said he wouldn't allow her.
joe rogan
He wouldn't allow her to hit from the men's tee?
kyle dunnigan
I think if you're on a Wheaties box, you can't, as an athlete, you can't.
joe rogan
For her part, Jenner said she'd hit from either box depending on how the group voted.
And women's T1. Oh, and don't worry, she dominated everyone on the links.
Both sexes.
kyle dunnigan
Sure she did.
joe rogan
She's a fucking Olympic gold medalist.
kyle dunnigan
I know.
joe rogan
Even though she's 70 years old and a woman now.
kyle dunnigan
Well, she went through puberty as a man.
She's got the man muscles and the man skeleton.
joe rogan
Sort of.
It's all withered away.
The skeleton's still there, but the muscles are gone.
kyle dunnigan
This is the world premiere.
I won't play the whole thing.
joe rogan
Play it, baby.
kyle dunnigan
What, I just put on this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kyle dunnigan
I'm going to shoot the video point next week.
unidentified
West Coast.
joe rogan
West Coast.
unidentified
Yeah.
West Coast.
kyle dunnigan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
Some things have changed and some things have changed.
I'm still hanging with my homies and riding on golf games.
But lately, they make me angry like I'm doing wrong.
They want me to hit from the mainstream.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You still What is the Lady C closer?
joe rogan
I don't play golf.
kyle dunnigan
Oh yeah, they're 20, 30 yards closer.
unidentified
Oh.
This is...
kyle dunnigan
She's driving the cart.
joe rogan
Let's end with that.
Kyle Dunnegan, you're a funny motherfucker, man.
kyle dunnigan
You're the best.
joe rogan
I'm glad you listened to that terrible feeling that you had in the middle of the night.
kyle dunnigan
I am too.
joe rogan
I'm really glad.
You got more songs playing?
kyle dunnigan
No, I don't know what's going on.
My phone's exploding.
joe rogan
KyleDunnegan1 on Instagram.
Do you have a Twitter?
kyle dunnigan
Kyle Dunnigan.
Twitter.
joe rogan
Oh, you got Kyle Dunnigan on Twitter.
kyle dunnigan
I got the right one for Twitter.
But I don't really...
joe rogan
Who's the Kyle Dunnigan on Instagram?
kyle dunnigan
He's like in the Midwest.
joe rogan
Buy it from him.
Reach out.
For real.
kyle dunnigan
I can't change...
Once you get verified, you can't change it?
joe rogan
Yes, you can.
kyle dunnigan
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll talk afterwards.
kyle dunnigan
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll let you know.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
There's people you can call.
kyle dunnigan
Swine.
joe rogan
Right?
My man.
unidentified
Sweet.
joe rogan
Thank you.
And everybody else, go check out his Instagram page.
It's the best.
unidentified
Bye.
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