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Feb. 28, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1086 - Rory Albanese
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joe rogan
01:37:05
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rory albanese
01:18:21
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Boom.
And we're live.
What happened?
You took your hat off?
You're going, you're getting crazy.
rory albanese
I'm trying to feel, you know, I want to feel at home.
joe rogan
It's that West Coast marijuana, dude.
It hits you hard, right?
unidentified
It does.
rory albanese
Hard and fast, man.
joe rogan
It's no joke.
Woo!
rory albanese
Yeah, it's no joke.
joe rogan
These chemists, or whatever they are, botanists, these fucking science dorks, they've done a wonderful job.
rory albanese
Yeah, they figured it out.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
It's not even the same thing anymore.
unidentified
No.
rory albanese
It's a, it's a, it's a, it's GMO all the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, hey, hey, hey, have you guys tested this on people yet?
rory albanese
I know, it's crazy.
I'm like, I know you took the seeds out of watermelon, but what the...
joe rogan
Yeah, how the fuck did they do that?
rory albanese
I don't know.
joe rogan
How did that even happen?
rory albanese
I don't know.
I just read that Barbara Streisand cloned her dogs.
Did you read that?
joe rogan
I heard about that.
Jamie told me.
rory albanese
It's like the weirdest thing, dude.
She has two dogs from one.
joe rogan
That's weird.
rory albanese
She made two clones of her favorite dog.
joe rogan
That is like the polar opposite of Adopt Don't Shop.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like you can't get any further.
rory albanese
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It costs like $100,000.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
rory albanese
Of course it does.
joe rogan
She can't have a different shape.
It's impossible.
Can't be a different dog.
It's impossible.
rory albanese
Yeah.
It's a weird move.
joe rogan
Man, if you really believe that personality comes from that...
If it's the same thing?
Like, if it just looks the same?
You don't want it to just look the same, do you?
rory albanese
No, it's supposed to be an identical clone of your original dog.
What if it's just really, really stupid?
joe rogan
What if it's your favorite dog, but this time it's just shitting all over the place, walking in the walls?
rory albanese
We've got bad news.
It doesn't have an asshole.
joe rogan
It just didn't work all the way.
It worked most of the way.
It looks like him.
rory albanese
It's like 94% your dog, and then, you know, it's missing an asshole.
joe rogan
It's 30% as smart as your last dog.
Which is pretty good, because your last dog was a genius.
rory albanese
Also, there's another dog attached to it.
That's walking in a different direction.
joe rogan
They're eventually going to pull each other apart.
But for now, you have each other.
rory albanese
Yeah, you've got six to eight weeks with these weird two-headed beasts.
joe rogan
For a hundred grand.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or you could just go to the pound.
For free.
I have a story that I do in my act about a pound dog that I had.
I had a pound dog that killed one of my dogs.
rory albanese
Wow.
joe rogan
Pound dogs are tricky, man.
You know, you get a dog that's been in, like, a shelter for a long time.
Sometimes they're in there for months.
They come out highly aggressive.
rory albanese
Some of them.
unidentified
Some of them don't.
rory albanese
My dog's a shelter dog, but I got her, I mean, she's 13 now, but when I got her, she was a puppy.
And they found she was a stray puppy.
She's a little black lab, like, just wandering in the Bronx.
And I got her probably, like, three days...
After they found her.
joe rogan
What age do you think a dog would have to be?
Like, you've got to imagine, like, a certain amount of abuse that a dog suffers early in its life before it gets to the pound.
It's got to really fuck with its head.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, there's dogs that you get at the pound.
You're essentially, like, taking on an abused organism.
Completely.
It's not just that it doesn't have a home.
It's that it might have been in dogfights.
Like, I'm pretty sure that mine, either its family was in dogfights or it was in a dogfight.
And there's...
You know, people around you that are probably kicking you and beating you.
rory albanese
Oh, yeah.
Or you're tied up for hours at a time.
Like, you know, you have no free...
I mean, who knows?
But I do think dogs can be rehabilitated, but I do think it takes...
You have to have a...
Look, to even have a dog be a good dog, right?
joe rogan
I don't know enough.
rory albanese
Like, when I have my puppy...
Like, I worked with my dog so much, and she's a great dog.
Like, I could walk in New York City without a leash.
She just follows me.
Oh, really?
Yeah, she's amazing.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
unidentified
But...
rory albanese
I worked so hard.
And then if you add to that, you have to first brainwash them or get them over the anxieties they have.
There are certain dogs that just hate men, because obviously in their former home, there was an abusive man in the house, and they react differently to men than women.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you never know.
A dog can't tell you what it's seen, you know?
rory albanese
Nope.
joe rogan
I had one dog that I adopted.
She was two, and she had mange all over her body.
Like, all over her body.
And she looked terrible, man.
And they caught her eating out of garbage cans in front of this family's house that rescues pit bulls.
And I took her in and like within a month, she had hair in her body.
She looked great.
She was healthy.
Sweetest dog.
Sweetest dog with people.
But if another dog got too close, she would fuck that dog up.
It was like she was like protecting what she had.
It was real hard to have an aggressive like pound dog.
rory albanese
Or a wild dog.
But it is the thing I would always tell people to try to do first.
Because I am a big adopt-don't-shop guy.
If you go to a dog pound...
joe rogan
You can find some amazing dogs.
rory albanese
Where I got my dog, which is Animal Care and Control in New York City.
Like, they euthanize, like, a hundred dogs a day.
Like, it's literally just, like, their dogs are coming in all the time.
Dogs with stab wounds, dogs they find in the park, and then they, like, they have five days in a pound, and then they're out.
So it's like, when I was there, this is, again, like, 13 years ago, but when I was getting my dog and I was waiting to pick her up, this woman came in with two dogs.
Rottweilers, beautiful Rottweilers on leashes, and she goes, I don't want these anymore.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
rory albanese
And then the lady behind the camera was like, well, what do you mean?
And she was like, I just can't handle them.
And then they took the leash, and she walked out, and then there were just these two dogs.
No, I don't know if they were trained to kill or not.
I was going to be like, add two Rottweilers to my tab.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Who knows?
I knew nothing about them, but I'm like, well, in five days, those dogs are dead, because they're like four-year-old Rottweilers.
joe rogan
I had a Doberman that we adopted when I was a kid, and it had distemper.
Which means what?
It's a disease that makes them really aggressive in this crazy way.
The dog turned on us.
rory albanese
That's scary.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, it was so scary.
I was like...
I couldn't have been more than 12. I was like maybe 12, somewhere around then.
And this big-ass Doberman is like showing its teeth and barking and snapping at us.
unidentified
That's scary.
joe rogan
And out of nowhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was the sweetest dog before.
And then all of a sudden it's on the couch, like looking down on us.
And we were like...
Whoa, what is happening here?
And so they came and took the dog, I think, or did we take the dog to the pound?
I don't remember what happened.
Or to the vet, rather.
And then they ran an examination, the dog, and they're like, this dog is distemper.
So we just, we got it with this weird disease.
rory albanese
And that's like, you can't have that in a house with kids.
joe rogan
I don't know what the fuck they do.
Well, I was a kid at the time.
My parents weren't having it, but I don't remember like, I don't remember too much about it.
rory albanese
I just remember that dog on the couch.
joe rogan
I just remember that dog on the couch showing its teeth, snapping at us.
rory albanese
Scary.
joe rogan
And I was like, Oh shit, we brought home a dog, a full-grown dog that has a disease.
rory albanese
My mom's cousin, so my second cousin was married to a dude for a number of years who had this Rottweiler that was like a Psychotic dog.
And like at one point, it jumped through their bay glass windows in their house to try to get the mailman and got caught between the two windows.
It was fine.
I mean, it had stitches and they had to pull some glass out of it, but it didn't impact the dog.
And it dove through a window.
It just didn't make it all...
joe rogan
Get to a mailman.
rory albanese
It would have like killed the mail.
It was just because somebody was walking up their porch, you know?
Jesus Christ.
And the dog just...
And that same...
Almost one time, like my grandparents had a house upstate and they were there.
Like my brother opened a door and came at him.
You know, it was just like...
Some people just like having a scary dog.
That's not the kind of dog you just want around a kid.
People get killed.
joe rogan
It certainly can happen.
Especially if it's really aggressive with people like that.
Jesus, that's so dangerous.
That's a monster.
rory albanese
And they're huge.
Rottweilers are like $145.
joe rogan
Big fucking animal, man.
It's a big animal.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
Those big males, those big fucking frying pan heads.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're giant flatheads.
rory albanese
It's funny, too, because we're talking about genetic modifications or cloning, but really dogs, if you look at them historically, they've been that the whole time.
Like, man has manipulated what they wanted of certain animals, and they've bred...
The meanest, toughest ones to be guard dogs, and they bred the cutest, take a piss on a paper mat ones to be laugh dogs.
Those are all choices that were made.
joe rogan
By humans.
rory albanese
Yeah, by humans.
And over time, by continued breeding of ones that were the same and same and same, you end up with breeds and things.
Man really played a huge role in the kind of dogs.
joe rogan
I think man did the whole thing.
Because when they did the genome, when they mapped out the DNA, it's a wolf.
Every dog is a wolf.
rory albanese
Yeah, no matter how big the dog is.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
Think about how powerful and terrifying and majestic a wolf is, right?
I mean, it's one of the most amazing creatures in the forest.
rory albanese
Couldn't agree more.
joe rogan
And we found just the one that was just slightly bitch-ass.
Just slightly bitch ass.
We're like, come on to the campfire, bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, we got free food.
rory albanese
Yeah, and he was like, oh, bacon's good.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
joe rogan
Just, hey, man, I don't like your ears poking up like this, dude.
Just relax.
Relax with your ears.
I think you're too alert.
Like you're looking to kill me.
rory albanese
And then they found a male that was like that, too.
We should make these two fucking do something here.
joe rogan
They figured out a way to get the bitch ass family that stayed real close to them to fuck each other.
rory albanese
They were like, let's take the two smallest ones and make them do it.
joe rogan
And then they probably invented dog houses, and I bet dog houses changed the game.
unidentified
As soon as you put a roof over them, they're like, this is amazing!
joe rogan
They're like, we're in.
I don't have to be a wolf.
rory albanese
Absolutely.
joe rogan
All this extra hair.
rory albanese
How about not having a hunt every day?
It's like, this is great.
joe rogan
I want white curly hair.
unidentified
I'm a poodle now, motherfucker.
rory albanese
Excuse me, I'd like a perm.
A perm!
And a bed with my name on it, please.
joe rogan
When they shave them down and they make them puffy where their feet are.
rory albanese
Oh my god, yeah.
joe rogan
That's an amazingly foo-foo dog, but it's still a dog.
That dog will fuck you up.
rory albanese
Yep.
joe rogan
Some of those poodles are ruthless.
rory albanese
Have a little chihuahuas, man.
Those things will come out, yeah.
joe rogan
Poodles probably have an attitude, too.
Like, no one takes them seriously.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if you had a...
Yo, I got a bunch of guard dogs.
What do you got?
They're 90-pound poodles.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People should shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
But that's still a dog.
rory albanese
Yeah, it is.
unidentified
That thing...
joe rogan
It would be so funny if that thing that looked like a Barbie toy.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
Right?
joe rogan
It looks like a Barbie toy.
It doesn't even look like a real dog.
That dog will fuck you up.
It'll bite your dick off.
unidentified
Yeah.
rory albanese
But I have to say, I feel bad when I see dogs have that haircut because they have no part in it.
You know what I mean?
Look at these dogs!
joe rogan
Jamie's showing us a picture of dogs with braids.
Unreal.
Okay, now seriously.
rory albanese
Those dogs are wearing slippers.
joe rogan
Is that cultural appropriation?
rory albanese
How does that work?
A little bit.
joe rogan
I feel like it might be.
rory albanese
They're white dogs.
joe rogan
They're stealing from Santa Claus.
Look at the colors.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They got Santa's gang colors.
rory albanese
God, people just...
joe rogan
What in the fuck is that?
rory albanese
It's not okay.
joe rogan
What in the fuck did they do to this dog?
We're looking at a dog, it's body is a pink snail, and I'm not joking.
It looks like a pink snail, like a swirly with hot pink accents.
Is that how you'd say it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stripes?
rory albanese
And it's back leg is a flower.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fucking preposterous.
rory albanese
Spray-painted.
joe rogan
They spray-painted the dog.
The dog is dying.
Chemicals.
It has green hair, too.
rory albanese
It says the poodles transformed into pandas, horses.
joe rogan
Don't do that, you fucks.
rory albanese
And even snails.
joe rogan
You've seen the ones where they take certain dogs and they make them look like a lion?
What dog did they do that with?
unidentified
Like a camel.
joe rogan
What the fuck did they do to this dog?
They turned a dog into a camel.
This is so mean.
People are such assholes.
rory albanese
This is so mean.
joe rogan
This is the same dog?
rory albanese
This is abuse.
joe rogan
Come on.
jamie vernon
It says Cindy the Poodle right here.
rory albanese
This is as bad as hitting a dog, in my opinion.
joe rogan
So Cindy the Poodle just is a new look every year, like Madonna in the 90s.
rory albanese
Oh, Cindy, I'm so sorry.
jamie vernon
Psychedelic snail.
unidentified
Cindy.
joe rogan
Oh, my God, Cindy.
What kind of wacky parents...
Oh, my God.
rory albanese
That's a different dog.
joe rogan
They turned this dog into a panda.
rory albanese
That's so messed up.
joe rogan
It's hair white and black and...
Can you imagine coming over to someone's house?
You got a fucking bear in your house!
Bro, I'm not into exotic wildlife!
rory albanese
Excuse me, you have a camel and a panda in your front yard?
joe rogan
Hey, dude, I can't pet your bear.
I can't pet your bear.
rory albanese
I have a family.
joe rogan
They turned into a horse.
unidentified
They turned into a football player.
joe rogan
Folks who are just listening, what is the name of this, Jamie?
Because we have to tell people about this.
jamie vernon
Poodles transformed into pandas, horses, snails, etc.
rory albanese
It's on the Daily Mail.
joe rogan
Just Google that and you'll find it.
rory albanese
It's the Daily Mail link.
joe rogan
Oh my god, a buffalo.
Did they put a mask on it?
Would they glue a mask to it, Ted?
unidentified
I don't...
joe rogan
These are monsters, these people.
rory albanese
Yeah, these are horrible people.
joe rogan
What'd they do to the dog?
They gave him a muzzle?
jamie vernon
It hits the muzzle, yeah.
joe rogan
They put a muzzle on it so it looks like a football helmet.
rory albanese
He could be a football player from the 30s.
He had to have one with a face mask.
joe rogan
What, they put a wig on?
How'd they do the buffalo?
The buffalo doesn't even make sense.
Scroll back up again.
The rooster.
Scroll back up to the buffalo.
rory albanese
Where's its head?
joe rogan
Where's its actual head?
Oh, so they put something over its head?
rory albanese
I don't know.
joe rogan
Look at that.
It looks like they put an outfit on him.
Where's his head?
rory albanese
This seems mean.
joe rogan
This is mean.
jamie vernon
It's got like extra ears.
joe rogan
They put a mask on him, it looks like.
This is so fucked up.
rory albanese
So crazy.
joe rogan
Like, how you were a werewolf.
No, I'm just a dog, man.
rory albanese
Oh god, a peacock dog.
joe rogan
Oh, the last one they turned into a peacock.
They literally glued feathers to its ass.
rory albanese
That is just, everything about this is terrible.
joe rogan
It looks like it might be actually just standing there.
And they have the feathers propped up against the wall.
rory albanese
Possibly.
joe rogan
Am I seeing that correctly?
rory albanese
But the other stuff is done to it.
joe rogan
I think that's what I'm seeing.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's on the back of the platform.
unidentified
Nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
unidentified
It's not nice.
rory albanese
I don't like it.
joe rogan
It just seems like you got a dog for the wrong reason.
rory albanese
I know.
joe rogan
You know, go get a fucking Mr. Potato Head.
unidentified
Don't get a dog.
joe rogan
That's a dog.
The fuck are you doing?
How about decorate your house?
Don't decorate the goddamn dog.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's just...
joe rogan
Christ.
rory albanese
I don't know.
People are terrible.
They're gross.
joe rogan
They're gross.
rory albanese
They make so many bad decisions.
joe rogan
But it's interesting, like...
One of the things that was coming out of South Korea during the Olympics was people were talking about, in Asian countries, the consumption of dogs.
It became a big hot point issue with a lot of people.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
It is weird that we choose certain animals that it's okay to kill and eat.
rory albanese
I could agree more, man.
I think that our food hang-ups are so specific to our country.
I think about this all the time.
But a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich is fried pig's ass.
Unfertilized embryo and mold.
joe rogan
Well, that's not true.
rory albanese
And mold.
What do you mean?
joe rogan
It's an unfertilized embryo, but nothing has to die.
rory albanese
No, nothing has to die.
unidentified
But it's an egg.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's an egg.
Yeah.
rory albanese
And sometimes, you ever crack an egg and there's a little chicken in there?
joe rogan
No, I've had little extra things in there.
rory albanese
No, I've had like a little gross.
joe rogan
Really?
rory albanese
Yeah, not like a full chicken, but like, oh, that's going to be a chicken.
joe rogan
You know, I was like in my 40s before I knew that an egg couldn't become a chicken.
I never thought about it.
rory albanese
That's how stupid I was.
joe rogan
The rooster had to be in the hen house.
I didn't know they laid eggs all the time.
I didn't know that until I was in my 40s.
rory albanese
Yeah, I don't think I... You gotta be in a farm setting to know that.
joe rogan
But you imagine if you were a farmer, what a fucking asshole you would think somebody is that didn't know.
rory albanese
They like ripped you off on your chickens?
joe rogan
Someone that didn't know.
Like, you didn't know that that couldn't just become a chicken.
Like, no, I just...
It's like, that's one of the things where it's...
People that are vegetarians, I urge you to eat eggs.
Eat eggs.
It's a free ride.
rory albanese
They just give up the...
They're coming out anyway.
joe rogan
They're coming out.
rory albanese
They're coming out anyway.
joe rogan
If you get it from...
You can get it from a place.
Like, just like you can get organic grass-fed beef.
You can get pasture-raised chickens.
They do have that.
Then pasture-raised chicken eggs.
The yolks come out dark.
You just gotta figure out where to get them.
They're not as...
They're more expensive, but they're not as expensive as meat, right?
I mean, they're really good for you, too.
rory albanese
The eggs last a surprisingly long time.
joe rogan
It's a free ride.
The chicken is going to eat all that stuff on the ground, the bugs and all the worms.
If you don't want to kill anything, just eat those eggs.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's good for you.
rory albanese
Very good for you.
joe rogan
They're fucking amazing for you.
I'm a big egg fan.
I'm anti-egg propaganda.
rory albanese
I'm a big egg fan.
I love eggs.
I can eat eggs every morning.
joe rogan
I do.
I eat them almost every day.
I just think that it's one of the most karma-free things.
You've got to exchange with these animals.
I have an exchange.
I give the animals food.
They eat the food.
They lay the eggs.
I'm nice to them.
I come into their little caged area.
They don't run from me.
They come around and give them little treats and shit.
They're like pets.
They have this really cool life.
They get to wander around.
Occasionally they get jacked by coyotes.
rory albanese
Really?
unidentified
I've had three jacked by coyotes.
rory albanese
They're not in a coop.
joe rogan
At least two.
One of them, I'm suspicious.
rory albanese
You don't have them in a coop?
joe rogan
Man, it's a fucked up story.
I've told it before.
I'll briefly tell it again.
My mastiff got honeydicked by a female coyote.
rory albanese
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And he thought the coyote was his buddy.
And he got to, now this is, I should say that my gender, you know, like gender identifying with this coyote, I did not have a chance to like really closely examine it.
I'm just being, uh...
It's for the good of the story.
This is what I think.
This is my theory.
I think it's a littler coyote, and I really think it was a female.
It was hanging around my house for a while, and it talked my dog into knocking down a fence.
And he's huge.
rory albanese
Okay.
joe rogan
And when he got through the fence, he got to the chicken coop.
And one of the chickens was doing a thing called brooding.
And when they brood, they're convinced that if they sit on their egg, that that egg is going to turn into a chicken.
They're fucking convinced.
rory albanese
They get like a little depressed.
joe rogan
They get nutty.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what you have to do when they're brooding is you have to take them off of the nest and put them in a cage by themselves with just a perch.
So they just sit on the perch for like a day or two, and then it leaves their system.
But if you let them lay on it, it'll take like 30 days.
It takes so long that they pluck their feathers off.
rory albanese
So how often are you monitoring your chickens that you're like, oh, we got a brooder?
joe rogan
Oh, it's pretty evident.
rory albanese
It's pretty obvious.
joe rogan
Yeah, you look at them every day.
If one of them is in the hen box, like where they lay their eggs, and she's like getting weird when you get in the air, like...
Okay.
They're a little weird with you, and they'll peck at you a little bit, like...
Yeah.
They don't try to hurt you, but they're like, get the fuck away from me.
rory albanese
They're protecting what they think is...
joe rogan
Yeah, they think there's a baby in there.
rory albanese
Oh, man, that's sad.
joe rogan
It is.
It is.
But what's the alternative?
You've got a bunch of cocks in your yard, just jacking all these poor hens.
They're all running away.
rory albanese
Just cock walking around.
joe rogan
I'd be watching chicken rape in my backyard 24-7.
rory albanese
But maybe like once in a while, bring a cock in to, you know, give them a weekend.
joe rogan
What we need is bird birth control.
I don't want these chickens shitting out kids.
I could bring in a couple of roosters.
I'm willing to make a few adjustments.
This is what I want.
I want sever the rooster's vocal cords.
I don't want to hear that shit at 5 o'clock in the morning.
Yeah, we know the sun's coming up, you piece of shit.
rory albanese
Yeah, Siri told me.
Siri told me.
joe rogan
And that would be one.
And then make it so his dick doesn't work.
Like his sperm.
rory albanese
What do you call that?
joe rogan
Yeah, give him a little fix-it job.
Just let him bang it out for pleasure.
Occasionally, you'll let one fertile male in.
rory albanese
I think a rooster without a voice is not going to be...
You're going to have a brooding rooster on your hands.
That's going to take what the rooster...
It's half of its identity, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, what a piece of shit I am.
rory albanese
No, I'm just saying like, you know...
joe rogan
Denying this rooster.
rory albanese
I've seen people who have clipped their dog's vocal cords because their dog barks too much.
joe rogan
I've heard of that before.
rory albanese
I'm like, that's fucking crazy, man.
joe rogan
It is annoying when they bark at you, though.
rory albanese
Sure.
I wouldn't say try training it.
joe rogan
Female chickens have the weirdest birth control method ever.
unidentified
Ooh, what is it?
joe rogan
No, what is it?
rory albanese
But it's got to be a chemical.
joe rogan
Chickens have long known to a time eject sperm after doing the deed.
rory albanese
Wow.
joe rogan
That wasn't well established.
What wasn't well established was the underlying reason for what's technically known as seminal evacuation.
I like how they give us the technical term.
Because now I understand it better.
I would prefer, it's technically turned, just call it shooting jizz.
rory albanese
Yeah, the jizz shot.
joe rogan
But in a recently published paper, a team led by Oxford researcher Rebecca Dean explains that this behavior is in fact far from random and that the tendency for females to jettison sperm is actually a finely tuned mechanism of post-copulatory sexual selection.
unidentified
Wow.
rory albanese
That's weird.
joe rogan
Dude.
rory albanese
Uh...
That'd be a weird thing to see, right?
unidentified
Walk into a chicken coop and a chicken just splurts.
rory albanese
Shoots a little...
joe rogan
What would be the evolutionary advantage?
Not that you're a biologist, nor am I. We should probably stop there.
What would be the evolutionary advantage of being able to shoot sperm out?
rory albanese
Maybe you get a vibe from that rooster that he's an asshole.
I wasn't consent.
I didn't say yes to that.
joe rogan
I'm tired of his bullshit.
rory albanese
Who knows?
joe rogan
I don't like his crow.
rory albanese
We're like...
Why did he take me last?
You know what I mean?
Why did I have to wait for four other, you know, chickens?
joe rogan
I wonder if rooster crows are like those, that's what it's called, right?
A crow?
Yeah, I think so.
I wonder if that is like national anthems, in that some people nail it and some people just overdo it.
rory albanese
And some chickens kneel during it.
joe rogan
Like some hens are just like, Jesus Christ, we get it!
You're awake!
You're awake.
We get it.
rory albanese
Yeah, we got it the first time.
unidentified
Oh, say, can you see?
rory albanese
Yeah, maybe that's the determining factor.
unidentified
I don't really lie.
joe rogan
You know, you're like, nah, it's not supposed to be that long.
It's a shorter song than you're doing.
You're doing a totally different song.
rory albanese
And you're doing that thing with your voice that Simon Cowell would tell you not to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, they love that thing, though.
rory albanese
100% of the time.
joe rogan
I wish I could do that thing.
rory albanese
Yeah, when I lived in the East Village in New York City back in the year 2000, 1999, it was...
It hadn't really been like a neighborhood that was gentrified or whatever you want to call it at the time, and there was a lot of roosters in the neighborhood.
Like these parking lots, they had these empty lots where there were no buildings, and people just had chickens and roosters outside.
So I would...
I was like, I don't know, 22 years old, sleeping in my apartment in the West Village, in the East Village, rather.
And then every morning, I'd wake up to a rooster crowing.
Like, every morning.
And then after a while, the community started hanging these signs, like, are you sick of the roosters?
And then I was like, oh, they're turning on the dudes who own the roosters.
unidentified
Dude.
rory albanese
Yeah, which was just not cool, because it was like, those guys had lived there a long time and had roosters, you know?
And then there was petitions.
joe rogan
You have to agree to that.
rory albanese
Petitions.
joe rogan
To get rid of the roosters?
rory albanese
Yeah, all these rooster petitions.
And then over, like, maybe...
Year and a half two years was no more roosters.
Yeah, one of those like like end of an era things in New York City where people still had like Just wandering chickens in an empty lot it had like hubcaps in it and chickens people don't understand how cool that is I don't know I don't know if I it's like this it's this weird thing that happens in cities where people come in and take all the culture out of it and then complain They're like, what happened to all the cultures?
You removed it!
You actively came in and removed it to make it as much of a suburban environment so you could have kids in a minivan and all the stuff you would have had in the burbs anyway.
joe rogan
When you say that though, isn't it a problem that it's not like one individual that's doing it?
It's like a whole movement of economics, right?
rory albanese
It's a movement of economics, but there is a lot, in my opinion, of Sort of community-like activism towards making the community the way they envision it to be.
So you end up with a lot of science.
It's like, we're working on a tomato co-op.
And you're like, oh, there's a tomato co-op?
They're working on it.
I've got to get in on that.
So there's a lot of like, I'm not saying that things they're doing are bad, but they're definitely, you know, There's just been a removal of a lot of that stuff.
And look, there's this argument about New York City that people go, oh, it used to be better.
It's like, no, it was really dangerous.
It's better.
So there's an up and down to it.
joe rogan
It's better unless you were the guy that got shot.
rory albanese
Yeah, exactly.
And then there's the other part, which is you can...
I look at cities like this.
It's like you're always building something on top of something else that was already there.
To us, it's like, I can't believe that hardware store went out of business.
It's like, yeah, well, maybe my grandfather was like, I can't believe they're putting a hardware store in where the horseshoe guy used to be.
It's like, oh, really?
The telegraph guy's going out?
This is bullshit.
It's probably something people felt.
Anytime you're somewhere first, you always feel like someone's ruining it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think we're in a very interesting time in a lot of amazing ways.
And I think we're learning more about people and behavior, I think, than ever before.
I think we need to give ourselves a little bit of a break in this, because I think everybody has this feeling like, why haven't we got our shit together?
Why haven't we fully evolved?
And my take on this is that this is a really recent thing.
Like, being aware of what the fuck is going on, just in the general scheme of being in the universe, is a very recent thing.
rory albanese
Yep.
joe rogan
And what we know about life and what we know about, you know, just our own finite life form, how far it's going to be able to be pushed, how long we can stay alive, you know, how...
How easy it is to transfer information from Australia to China to fucking England and back and forth and back and forth.
We're in the craziest time ever.
And it's all really fucking recent.
rory albanese
Really new.
joe rogan
20 plus years.
rory albanese
If that.
Because if you go back 20 years ago, the internet existed, but you couldn't watch a video on it.
To me, the smartphone thing is, every day, I'm like, I can't believe I have this thing in my pocket.
joe rogan
It's insane.
rory albanese
It's like, if you don't Remember what it was like to like you know if there's this whole like vibe where people like Millennials don't get it you know and like I don't know I have the same attention span as a millennial because I'm on my phone like this is joke that adults that adults are better you know and I'm like I don't know like if I did a USO tour in Afghanistan a couple years ago and I Met all those dudes like the soldiers men and women over there and I was like really blown away I was like really impressed this idea that like our best days are behind us all that stuff and I'm going I
I don't know, this is a really impressive group of young people who are like fighting for the country, volunteering to fight for the country, and like coming back here, sometimes wounded, sometimes, you know, all the things that they risk going there.
But then like you meet them and you're like, these are like, they're not like jarheads, you know, they're like...
Sophisticated thinkers and they're trying to be a part of something.
I found it very inspiring to be around that.
Not like, oh, B-Boy, a bunch of losers.
Millennial losers.
I was like, these dudes seem awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, we have a soft life now.
So there's going to be a lot of people that are...
Ridiculous and you know sure there's always been those people that are weak-willed and they want the world to be nerfed up and Of course pad their feelings you're gonna have that but there's also more people that have an understanding of like That's not a happy, healthy way to live your life.
rory albanese
No, it's not.
And I also think that reality at some point will always supersede Nerf padding.
There's always going to be a pushback on that where you go, look, I don't want to offend anybody.
And I do agree that there's a movement by the left that really does push.
I did a thing because I'm doing this charity event for like an urban program for kids, mainly inner city black kids.
And I'm hosting it with my buddy Mike Yard, who's a really funny comic, black dude.
And we went to meet with the guys for this charity and they were telling us that...
They have an auction at any charity event.
An auctioneer comes out and they try to auction off and raise a lot of money from rich people to help the program.
That's basically 99.9% of every charity event I've ever been involved in has an auction segment in the dinner.
They were like, we're going to have that, but we can't use the word auction.
I said, what do you mean you can't use the word auction?
They're like, it's a sensitive word for, you know, the community.
And then Yard goes, are you talking about slave auctions?
Like his head almost exploded.
He was like, wait, we can't, and I was like, wait, we can't say the word auction?
I'm like, but aren't you hiring a guy from Sotheby's?
Yeah.
His card's going to say auctioneer on it.
We're just going to pretend that's not what he's called.
And they were just like, we just don't feel comfortable with that word in the room.
And I was just going, I can't.
I said, guys, I got to tell you, you're making me want to vote for Trump.
unidentified
That's what I said.
rory albanese
I said, that's how dumb I think this is.
I'm like, I'll agree to it because I want to help these kids, but this is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
unidentified
Wow.
rory albanese
Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
I was like, can I say cotton?
Am I allowed to say cotton?
unidentified
Cotton.
rory albanese
Like, what other words can I say?
That's the dumbest thing I ever heard.
You're going to get triggered.
joe rogan
Auctions.
Yeah.
Auctions.
rory albanese
We're not going to joke around about auctioning off a black person, although Yard and I probably would have.
joe rogan
But first of all, when you say auction, you automatically think of that voice, think of that voice, think of that voice, think of that voice.
Totally.
Do you think they did that when they were doing that with slaves?
I do not think they talked like that.
rory albanese
I don't know what their technique was, but I do know when I think of the word auction, I'm not like, oh, I don't want to say that.
Don't say the A word.
Don't say the A word.
joe rogan
It's absolutely accepted it's a different thing now.
It's like the word gay.
It used to be Flintstones gay.
Have a gay old time.
Having a gay time was like, we're out having a gay old time.
And then it became gay, and then you had to stop saying it that way.
You can't just go back to gay happy like Flintstones.
rory albanese
No, you can't.
But gay, for me, growing up, Was the thing we just said about everything all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, everything's gay.
rory albanese
Doesn't matter.
Like, the only thing you couldn't...
But it wasn't good, though.
No, it was terrible.
joe rogan
But when did gay go bad?
rory albanese
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
rory albanese
It went bad after the F word went bad.
joe rogan
Did it?
rory albanese
Yeah.
F word went first.
joe rogan
Was it connecting the two of them?
Fucking gay?
And like, what?
rory albanese
No, no, not fucking.
I meant the other word for gay people that they get offended by.
joe rogan
Oh, you're afraid to say in fact that?
rory albanese
No, I'm not afraid to, but I'm just kind of being sarcastic when I say the F word.
joe rogan
The other F word.
It's like the other white meat.
rory albanese
Yeah, exactly.
And not that long, it was this idea of if something was stupid, it was gay.
It didn't mean homosexual.
It meant like, nah, dude, don't be so gay.
But then you start thinking about it.
Oh, I guess it does.
I guess it's offensive because you're saying that stupid shirt you're wearing is gay.
joe rogan
Of course it's that way, but isn't it weird that gay took a turn for the worst?
Wouldn't you have loved to have been at the intersection when gay went bad?
unidentified
Like, we'll have a gay old time.
joe rogan
That's gay.
rory albanese
Whoa, what?
What are you saying?
joe rogan
Like an intersection of thoughts, and the mean one overran it.
The mean one beat the happy gay.
rory albanese
It did.
joe rogan
Gay took that...
They took the word gay and turned it into either a negative, like, that's gay, or homosexuality.
How was it not connected to homosexuality before?
rory albanese
I don't know.
I don't know if the connection came from the fact that, like, they were like, oh, those guys are gay.
And they were, like, being, like, because they were being, like, really, you know, like, they seemed really happy.
They were, like, flamboyant.
Like, boy, that guy's gay, huh?
He's really gay.
Look how gay he is with that shiny shirt on, you know?
Hey, that Liberace sure is gay.
joe rogan
And then maybe someone was like, I'll show you gay.
Next thing you know, people are like, hey, we've got to stop with that word.
rory albanese
You know, we should come up with a new word.
joe rogan
Gay's a different thing now.
rory albanese
Yeah, because I asked a guy to get gay with me, and it got really, really uncomfortable.
joe rogan
There had to be, like, a time in between where it was real confusing, right?
Where they hadn't fully established what it meant yet.
Where people were like, hey, man, are you gay?
Yes, I am gay!
I'm having a gay old time!
And the guy's like, good!
And the guy tackles him in the bushes.
rory albanese
Yep.
Like the word hookup.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
Like right around when I was in high school.
But my dad would be like, hey, you're going to hook up with your friends tonight.
You know what I mean?
And I'd be like, dad, don't say that!
You know what I mean?
He's like, that's not what it means anymore.
unidentified
He's like, what do you mean?
rory albanese
It means meet up with your friends.
I'm like, that's not what it means!
And all my buddies would be in the room like, hey, you guys going to hook up tonight?
And I'm like, don't say that!
And everyone's like, dude, your dad's gay!
unidentified
You know?
rory albanese
Don't be so gay.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
rory albanese
It's so funny.
Yeah, a lot of language shifts occur.
It does feel like right now there's more policing of it and there's more people...
I don't know.
The word pussy is one of those.
joe rogan
You can't say pussy anymore?
rory albanese
No, people get offended by it.
joe rogan
You hang around with the wrong people for getting offended by the word pussy, unless you're overusing it.
rory albanese
No, no.
I'm saying, again, what I say or don't say is what I say or don't say.
I take my licks if I have to, but people get offended by it.
That's a word now that if you're...
If you're in a hardcore leftist community, you wouldn't say pussy anymore.
But you'll still say dick.
That guy's being a dick.
It's like, well, that's offensive.
joe rogan
Those communities need a hug.
rory albanese
Yeah.
I feel like they don't need a hug, actually.
I feel like they need...
To have too many hugs, you know, and I think there's just too much I think it really it goes back to our lives are easy now So we have a lot of free time to come up with bullshit.
Yeah, we do it's like if we had to Actually, we didn't have electricity or we'd have like all this ease.
We wouldn't be You know harping on this stuff.
It's just like you have a lot of downtime a lot of downtime So you're like I'll start a blog.
I think I'll start blogging about words You shouldn't say we have so much Surplus.
joe rogan
That one of our biggest problems is that we eat too much food and we get too big.
rory albanese
Yep.
joe rogan
That's like one of the number one health problems that humans have.
Like, this is how much surplus we have.
Even though I know people have it hard and there's people that are starving all over the world, I'm aware.
But just in general, especially in America, what is like one of our number one problems is people just eat too much.
rory albanese
And when we talk about people starving in America, and you think about how much food is wasted and thrown out.
joe rogan
Anthony Bourdain's doing a documentary on it.
rory albanese
Yeah, there's no...
Yeah, it's such a strange concept that there's like no internal desire to...
You know, it's like why I get annoyed at the Christian right.
You know, they're always like, oh, abortions are...
You're killing babies.
What we need to do is have those babies and support young mothers who support young single moms.
I'm like, when's the last time you fucking volunteered to support a young single mom who had a baby?
Christian dude posting on Twitter.
When's the last time you give a Saturday of your day to take that kid to the zoo?
Bullshit!
You say it, but they don't fucking do anything about it.
joe rogan
Well, it's a nice little box to put yourself in for some people.
They think they're a good person because they're a Christian.
But how much do you really act on it?
rory albanese
But you're taking your day to stand outside Planned Parenthood with a sign.
Why not take the day to go help that kid who didn't get aborted and his mom can't feed him?
Why not stop by there instead of holding a sign about the devil in front of a fucking clinic for women?
It's just weird.
joe rogan
It is weird.
It's a weird thing that you can do it, too, right?
I mean, that's one of the weird things about people is that we know that if we don't do anything and we take care of ourselves, a baby's coming.
And, like, if you get the first countdown, like, countdown, like, it's almost like we agree that there's, like, levels to the countdown.
Like, in the first couple of days, no one gives a shit.
Just pull the plug!
Pull the plug!
And then everyone's looking at everybody like, you feel okay?
What happened?
What happened?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not that big of a deal.
It's like, how many cells was it?
It was only four cells at the time.
Like, okay, four cells is not a lot of cells.
And you start thinking, I don't think it really ever can be four cells.
But you get my point.
A tiny little thing.
And then when does it become, when do you decide that's a person?
rory albanese
I get, by the way...
joe rogan
What it looks like one?
rory albanese
Listen, I get the argument and...
I do think that I have my own personal philosophy on how I would handle a situation.
joe rogan
If you were a woman?
rory albanese
No, no, no.
I'm saying if I was in a relationship with a woman and she got pregnant and didn't want to have the kid or did want to have the kid, at the end of the day, we'd have a conversation together, and if she was dead set on doing it, then...
We're going to do it.
But my point being, I do believe that it's a weird thing to just tell other people what they're supposed to do or not.
I feel that way about gay marriage.
I feel that way about everything.
It's a strange thing to be able to dictate to someone else how they're supposed to live.
joe rogan
Agreed.
rory albanese
Because there's too many people doing that, man.
Like, we got the right doing it through the Christian right, and then we got the left doing it through, you know, all their movements.
And it's like, I think the reason most people are so annoyed in the country isn't, like, even political.
It's like they're just sick of people telling them how to live.
You know, it's like, I get it.
I can't say that.
Oh, you want me to not have a gun?
You hate guns.
It's like, everyone, just fucking stop.
It's like, we need, like, just like a national timeout for five minutes.
joe rogan
I think We're just learning how to use this thing, man.
We're learning how to integrate society into this kind of communication that we share right now.
We're still figuring it out.
rory albanese
I did talk about that with somebody the other day.
I was actually just doing a set on stage, and I was riffing a little bit about how we talk about the Second Amendment a lot, and the Founding Fathers didn't know.
We were going to have assault rifles.
They didn't have the foresight to see that, so we have to rethink what that means.
And it's like, well, they didn't know we were going to have Twitter.
So, like, maybe we have to rethink what the First Amendment means.
They didn't know every fucking moron was going to have the ability to say stuff out loud on a national level.
joe rogan
Just to use the Internet.
I mean, imagine how easy it was to govern people before the Internet came around.
Must have been so much easier.
rory albanese
Yeah, just lie to them.
joe rogan
Yeah, lie to them.
They have almost no access to the truth.
What do you get?
What Walter Cronkite tells you, bitch.
That's all you get.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's what you get.
It's like the entertainment industry.
It used to be like, you want to hear a song?
Merv Griffin and Dick Clark will let you know what songs you can hear.
joe rogan
If you were on the side of the people that are anti-abortion, there's one side of you that has to logically interpret that if these people really did feel like babies were being murdered, like it was their perspective that babies were being murdered, If you completely ignore that perspective and just try to say it's a woman's health issue, I almost get where their mind is at.
I don't think that they should be interfering in anybody's life, especially when something is legal and people already voted on by abortion.
rory albanese
Yeah, and they fundamentally believe that's what's happening, and you can see how if you thought babies were being killed up the street, you'd be like, we can't allow this to happen.
But what I'm saying is...
joe rogan
But they'll tell you that they are babies.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the problem with that argument is it holds some water.
rory albanese
Sure.
joe rogan
Like, you really have to...
If you're going to be a rational person, and I'm 100% pro-choice, but as a rational person, you have to look at what it actually is.
If you don't, then we're playing a game.
The game is, you want your side to be correct.
But the reality is, this is a very complicated, weird thing.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's like a life in your body.
And for sure, a guy shouldn't be able to tell a girl what she can do.
rory albanese
I totally agree with that.
joe rogan
You can't tell a woman she has to keep it.
People have already aborted babies.
There's a precedent for it.
You can't tell them what they can do.
rory albanese
All you can do is support their decision.
Or...
You can weigh in.
I think if you're their dad, you can weigh in on what you want, but at the end of the day, she's going to decide what she wants to do, and you've just got to agree with it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
I think that's the move.
joe rogan
I think, you know...
It's just...
It's a very complicated thing.
A life form that will eventually become a person is inside your body.
What do you do?
Can you imagine we had to make that decision?
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're lucky that chicks do it, because we don't think correctly for that proposition.
rory albanese
We have no ability to weigh those options.
But I do think that the...
When I think about that, I agree with you, and I think most issues in the country are like that, and that's the whole problem.
There's no rationality on either side, right?
joe rogan
There's no rational center.
rory albanese
Right, like for example, people will...
You know, look, there's a lot going on with Trump and Russia and all that stuff.
joe rogan
Wait, what have you heard?
rory albanese
And then people will post something, yeah, well, about Obama scandals.
And then someone on the left will be like, he had no scandals.
And then someone will list like five scandals and go, yeah, those were scandals.
Like, you can't just pretend that like that Fast and the Furious thing was good.
That was bad!
joe rogan
If you really like muscle cars, it's fun to watch.
rory albanese
You know that Obama thing where he gave all the guns?
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
rory albanese
They lost all those guns.
joe rogan
And some of them were used to kill people.
rory albanese
Yeah, so it's like, I don't know.
joe rogan
What was the logic behind that?
They were going to trace them?
rory albanese
Yeah, it's like an Iran-Contra-Contra.
Did you see that movie, by the way?
joe rogan
But was it a scam, or was it a thing where they were trying to give them guns that they could trace?
rory albanese
They could trace, and then they instantly couldn't trace them.
They just gave a lot of guns.
I think that was the gist of it.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if that was just really a gun?
I mean, some people do think it was.
Like, just an illegal arms sale that happened right under our nose.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if that's really what it is?
rory albanese
I mean, did you watch that?
I just watched it the other night, that Tom Cruise movie, American Maid.
joe rogan
No, I did not, but I know what it's about.
rory albanese
It's the first good Tom Cruise movie he's had out, I think, in a couple years.
Really?
Yeah, because he's kind of a dark character.
He's not like a hero.
joe rogan
I know the Barry Seale story.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's what this story is.
He's like a pilot who basically...
The CIA was like, hey, you're a really good pilot, and we need a guy to bring some guns to the...
It's all the precursor of the Iran-Contra thing, which as a kid I remember hearing all about, but then understanding it at a better level, which was us trying to arm rebels, which we've been doing for...
We are Bin Laden against the Russians.
We've been arming rebels for a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's our move, right?
rory albanese
Yeah, big time.
So he became the dude the CIA asked to do that.
And he was like, you've got to pay me more money.
And the guy was like, you'll figure it out.
And then all of a sudden, he would land to bring the guns.
And the dudes would be like, hey, we want you to bring Escobar and his crew.
We're like, Pablo Escobar.
We're like, hey, as long as you're bringing us guns, we also want you on your flight home to bring 1,500 pounds of cocaine to church.
And then he was like, I'm not going to do that, no thanks.
And they were like, 2,000 bucks a kilo.
And he was like, how many kilos is it?
1,500 pounds?
And it became like this insane two-way smuggler who's smuggling guns in and drugs out, guns in and drugs out.
It's a really interesting story.
joe rogan
What do you think happens today?
Do you think that stuff like that is still going on today?
Or do you think that when it happened...
Like, they figured out that it was a bunch of cowboys, like CIA operatives, that were just trying to make some money on the side, or do you think it's, like, a systematic...
rory albanese
I think that it's, like...
I think that it's human error.
I think that, like, people...
That's why I'm not, like, a big conspiracy theorist, because it's, like...
I don't think...
The government's organized enough.
It's always weird to me when people who think the government sucks, who want small government, they want the government...
The government mishandles everything.
They don't know how to do this.
They don't know how to do this.
They can't manage traffic lights.
Whatever they think the government can't do.
They can't do healthcare.
They're idiots.
They're idiots.
Private sector.
And then they're like, but there's a giant government conspiracy where all the government knows this thing.
And I'm like, if they can't fucking manage traffic lights, how are they pulling off like...
A fake moon landing or whatever.
It's like that kind of stuff to me.
It's like you're perpetuating two very different views of an extremely competent, clandestine group of people who can achieve these dark, shadowy things without anyone knowing or bumbling morons.
But they're the same people.
They're government workers.
So I don't know.
I think some CIA... The story behind going into Iraq is interesting.
Like a CIA operative had a theory about...
Where have been, I mean, not Osama, the fucking other dude.
unidentified
Saddam Hussein.
rory albanese
Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
He had a theory, and he was an analyst at the CIA, and he wrote up this whole document, and they read it, and they were like, yeah, this is bullshit, like, we have no proof of any of this, thank you.
And he was so mad they did that, that he published it on the internet.
Just leaked it to the internet.
And then that story got on the internet.
And then a dude in Australia, who was a spy, or like a guy from Australia, and another guy from Afghanistan or Iraq, read it on the internet, came to America and said, I have all the secrets of what he's doing.
And he just used that guy's document that he read online and told the CIA. And then the guy came in and goes, he has weapons here, weapons here, weapons here.
And then that analyst goes, holy shit, I was right.
Meanwhile, he's quoting him his own report.
So then he goes back to Cheney and he goes, we've got this dude talking to the Germans saying all the things I theorized.
And then that's the guy Curveball.
We listen to a dude named Curveball.
So like, that's how the whole fucking thing went down.
And basically, some dude tricked us.
He actually didn't know anything, but it was too late.
We like...
Went off the information that a dude read off the internet from a guy who was mad they wouldn't take his info, which was wrong, which is why there were no weapons of mess to show you there.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
rory albanese
It's just a crazy...
So yeah, I think that shit happens all the time, but I don't think it's...
I just think they're sloppy government employees.
joe rogan
Well, I think you're dealing with a bunch of different things.
Some of them are sloppy government employees.
Some of them are not.
Some of them are brilliant.
I mean, there's that too.
rory albanese
Like Robert Mueller is brilliant.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a ton of them.
There's a ton of them that are brilliant.
But you're also going to have cowboys, and this is what I think.
When you find out about these CIA drug deals gone bad, where, did you see that one where the plane crashed in Mexico?
They wouldn't let them refuel, they wouldn't let them land to refuel, because they kind of knew maybe that they were smuggling drugs.
rory albanese
And they made them crash.
joe rogan
And the plane wound up crashing, and it had...
How many tons of cocaine did it have in it?
And people are like, this is proof the CIA sells cocaine.
I'm like, no, it's proof those guys flying that plane had cocaine.
rory albanese
Right.
joe rogan
The real question is, did they just get too loosey-goosey traveling back and forth to South America, a little too tight with some people that had a little bit too much money, and they realized we could fucking do this, so we could do this, and no one would suspect it.
rory albanese
Well, that's the thing, though.
joe rogan
5.5 tons of cocaine.
Jesus Christ.
5.5 tons.
rory albanese
Wow.
unidentified
That's a lot.
joe rogan
Isn't that 11 pounds?
How many thousand pounds?
11,000?
rory albanese
Yeah.
2,000 times five and a half.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
11,000 pounds of fucking cocaine!
rory albanese
Dude, I tell you- That's insane!
joe rogan
Show the pictures of the crash because it's crazy.
unidentified
This is nuts.
rory albanese
When was this?
joe rogan
Giant bricks of coke.
Man, I want to say like 2005?
rory albanese
2006. 2006. 2006. But the Barry Seale story was he's just a pilot.
unidentified
Yes.
rory albanese
So a CIA operative who's trying to make connections with them, do his mission, which is given to him, which is arm these rebels.
So five guys in the CIA have to try to figure out how to arm rebels.
So he approaches this pilot that he hears is a good pilot who flies for TWA. And he goes, hey man, you're now in the CIA. But he's not really in the CIA. He's not part of the CIA. He's just a pilot that this guy subcontracts.
And then he doesn't tell the bosses how he's getting the guns in.
So he just made up a little thing.
He has his own budget to do his own little thing.
And he finds this dude.
So it's not like Barry Seal was a CIA guy flying cocaine.
He was just a pilot that the CIA told.
And only one guy from the CIA told it to him.
And then...
It's a crazy story, you know?
And then he's doing it, and then he starts making his little side business.
And this guy looks the other way because he just wants Barry delivering the guns.
And then after a while, as it starts to fall apart, the CIA is like, burn everything with Barry Seale's name on it.
We've never had connection to Barry Seale in our entire life.
joe rogan
That's all the coke that they got off that plane.
rory albanese
That's nuts, man.
unidentified
That looks like luggage for an army.
joe rogan
Doesn't it?
Like an army troop, and like, boys, this is your gear!
And it's all rolled up in these giant bags.
rory albanese
Isn't it so funny, though, that like...
joe rogan
That is crazy.
rory albanese
People still think a wall's gonna work.
It's like how many drugs were coming in on an airplane.
joe rogan
Well, just the fact that the airplane was...
A CIA airplane.
Did they have in the movie, did they have the reason why the whole scheme got busted in the first place?
Do you know the story?
rory albanese
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's like a spoiler for listeners, but I'll tell you.
joe rogan
Well, the real story about the kids that were murdered?
rory albanese
The kids that were murdered where?
joe rogan
That wasn't in the movie?
rory albanese
I don't think so.
joe rogan
One of the ways this whole thing came apart was two kids were apparently in the woods when they made a drop.
And these kids saw a drop, and they were murdered, and they were stabbed, and then they left their bodies on the train tracks.
And their bodies were run over by train tracks, and then the parents got an autopsy.
And the autopsy showed that at least one of the kids had been stabbed.
rory albanese
Wow.
joe rogan
And so they realized something.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
They realized something had happened.
rory albanese
Was it New Orleans where the kids got killed?
joe rogan
No, it was Mena, Arkansas.
rory albanese
Okay.
Oh, that's the Mena part of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's where the drop was.
The drop was apparently in Mena, Arkansas.
So they killed these kids, and then this whole thing happened, and then the whole thing fell apart, and then people started looking into it, and then Barry Seals was murdered, actually, as he was heading to court to testify.
rory albanese
Well, yeah, he...
joe rogan
This is an amazing thriller, like a Tom Clancy novel.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's a really good...
And it's done well.
The movie's done well, and...
But they don't mention the murdered kids.
They skip, like, Mena, Arkansas is the place where the CIA moves them, and then...
joe rogan
Well, I hope I'm not remembering this wrong, but I think that was the reason why they got busted.
rory albanese
Could be.
I'm saying, in the movie, that's not mentioned.
But, like, you know, that's the creative license of making a movie.
They're like, eh.
joe rogan
Oh, man, I hate when they do that.
I hate when they do that, when it's a real-life situation.
Did you ever see that wrestling movie with Steve Carell?
What the fuck was that called?
rory albanese
The Wrestler?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
With Steve Carell and...
rory albanese
Oh, he's the DuPont guy?
joe rogan
Yeah, John DuPont.
rory albanese
Oh, fuck.
What's the name of that movie?
joe rogan
Foxcatcher.
rory albanese
Never would have gotten that.
joe rogan
Yeah, they did that in that movie.
rory albanese
Where they cut out key details?
joe rogan
Yeah, well they changed a big part of the ending where Mark Schultz...
It's a UFC fight, a famous UFC fight, where Mark Schultz, who was just top of the food chain wrestler, fought this guy Big Daddy Goodrich, who's a really well-known MMA guy, just totally dominated him.
And in the movie, he's fighting some white guy.
Like some made-up guy.
rory albanese
They just changed it?
joe rogan
They just changed the guy.
rory albanese
So they maybe not get the rights to the...
Other guy's name or something?
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
Then don't have that scene.
rory albanese
Take it out.
joe rogan
I know what the fuck the history of this was.
Now, if you lied to me about something so insignificant as who the guy was that he fought in the UFC, what else are you lying about?
rory albanese
Agreed.
joe rogan
This is so stupid to do.
It's a real story.
rory albanese
Did you ever see that movie with Marky Mark and The Rock?
I'm being serious.
Should I call him Marky Mark?
I think it's Mark Wahlberg and the Rock.
And it's based on a true story.
It came out like two, three years ago.
It's really good.
And in the middle of the movie, it's one of the coolest things I've ever seen done in a true story movie.
They're doing this absurd thing.
They're jumping off a rooftop together.
And it just pauses.
And then a text comes up and says, This all happened.
This is still a true story.
It reminds you in the middle of the movie.
jamie vernon
Pain and Gain is what it was called.
rory albanese
Oh, Pain and Gain, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that was a fun movie, man.
rory albanese
Pump and Dump or something.
I knew it was something like that.
Is this the part?
jamie vernon
This is just the trailer.
rory albanese
Oh, the trailer.
joe rogan
Dude, this is a fun movie.
rory albanese
I forgot about this movie.
It's a great movie.
Yeah, underrated.
joe rogan
It was like one of my favorite movies that he did.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a fun-ass movie.
rory albanese
Yep.
The Rock's good, man.
I like The Rock.
joe rogan
I love The Rock.
rory albanese
In the middle of the movie, they pause it and they go, this is still a true story.
Like, this happened.
Which is cool, because it gets almost inconceivable after a while.
joe rogan
I think The Rock is going to be our president.
rory albanese
I think The Rock should be our president.
joe rogan
I think he can pull it off.
And I'm not joking.
rory albanese
I'm not joking either, man.
joe rogan
I'm tired of all this serious political discussion.
rory albanese
You're in good hands with The Rock.
joe rogan
My patience for real politics has waned.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
rory albanese
Look, we're on our way there.
You've seen Idiocracy, right?
We're on our way to...
joe rogan
Dude, I still haven't fucking seen that.
Oh, wow.
rory albanese
You will love that movie.
joe rogan
I know I would.
I got salty.
Because when I had a bit that was the same premise of that, it was about dumb people out fucking all the smart people.
rory albanese
Really?
joe rogan
And one day we wake up and all the power's off, and no one knows how to turn it back on.
rory albanese
That would annoy me, too, if it was your bit.
joe rogan
It's stupid, because it's not my bit they stole.
No, it's the concept.
unidentified
It's just parallel.
Yeah.
rory albanese
Parallel thinking.
joe rogan
It's an obvious concept if you think that people are out, if you think that people are getting dumber, and that dumb people are having more kids.
It's just, it's inevitable.
rory albanese
Yeah, and they are.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
That's very true.
joe rogan
And I traced it back to the pyramid, like the whole thing was like, that the smart people just died, and then when the dumb people showed up at the pyramid, and then they just moved in.
Nobody even lives here.
rory albanese
Yeah, like the alien culture that created it.
jamie vernon
Yeah, exactly.
rory albanese
Then a bunch of fat dudes were like, yeah, these look good.
joe rogan
Yeah, the idiot workers of Egypt.
They all stumbled in.
Yeah, we built this a couple generations ago.
We're the best.
rory albanese
That's so funny.
joe rogan
That's still, to me, if I had one time in, like, if you could go back in a time machine and go to one place in history and see something, I think it would have to be Egypt while they were building the pyramids.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I would just love to have seen what that culture was like.
It's so hard to tell.
I mean, you look at all the stone and everything, right?
Even if you were standing there.
I've never been to Egypt, but I've been to Chichen Itza.
It's kind of the same feeling you get where you're like, what was it like when this place was popping?
What did this feel like?
These people have built these crazy structures.
What was a normal day for them?
rory albanese
You know, it's funny.
I didn't realize it.
I watched the documentary about The pyramids, and not the one, what's the aliens and...
joe rogan
Which one?
rory albanese
Nazis and aliens.
What's that one on, like, the guy with the crazy hair?
Oh, oh, oh, ancient aliens.
joe rogan
Giorgio.
Shout out to Giorgio Tsoukalos.
rory albanese
Yeah, and it's like, ancient astronaut theorists, surmise.
joe rogan
That's not real people.
rory albanese
That's not really a sentence, you know?
joe rogan
He's fairly reasonable when you talk to him.
Giorgio is just a lover of all possibilities UFO. That's an hour's worth of a show.
rory albanese
They're on like season 11. Oh, they're season 89 right now.
They're skimping now.
The first one with the Nazca lines, it's pretty interesting.
But now they're like, ancient astronauts fear it surmised that palm trees were brought here.
And you're like, just stop.
joe rogan
You did it.
rory albanese
You finished it.
joe rogan
If ghost shows are still on the air, let them be on the air.
Because at least they're showing cool old buildings and shit and stone structures.
unidentified
Could it be possible that aliens constructed this?
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not one ghost, man.
At least we have some cool rocks to look at where you look at like, you know, what are those giant stones in, is it Peru?
unidentified
Stonehenge?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Stonehenge is in England.
There's some crazy structures somewhere in South America that Giorgio was talking to us about.
And it was one of the reasons why some people speculate that it's possible that some of the things that are constructed that we really don't have any idea how ancient primitive man did were actually constructed by someone from another planet.
rory albanese
Yeah.
Which I don't think is any less reasonable than people thinking God sent, like, pointed his finger and was like, Giraffes!
joe rogan
You're right about that.
rory albanese
You're right about that.
Like, half the world believes that.
joe rogan
You're right about that, but it's more reasonable to think that it was done by people.
Because we know people are a real thing, and we know people have built a lot of shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, yeah, this is it.
This is the exact structure.
These fucking stones, they're not just cut and placed perfectly, but they're in, fit together like a jigsaw puzzle.
And somehow or another, they carved and moved these enormous stones.
And if you stand right next to them, like, there's some photos of people standing next to them.
Stand right next to them, apparently, they just tower over people.
So, these were all done, you know, who knows how many thousands of years ago.
rory albanese
But isn't there, like...
A reasonable thing to think that, like, maybe they had technology that is lost to time?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a reasonable thing to think, for sure.
rory albanese
Like, in other words, like, if our civilization crumbles and in 2,000 years people dig it up, and they find the Empire State Building, they'll be like, how'd they do it?
They're not gonna find, like, a backhoe.
joe rogan
Look at this picture.
Look at these fucking stones.
Amazing.
Go back to the other one with the person in front of us so you can see the perspective.
Look how big that shit is.
Holy shit.
rory albanese
I did not think it was that big.
joe rogan
They're so big, dude.
rory albanese
It looked like a staircase.
joe rogan
And this was one of Giorgio's things.
He was saying, like, we don't have the technology to do this right now.
Like, if you wanted to get someone to go out there and move those giant stones and cut them and place them, I mean, we kind of have the technology, but holy shit, would it take a lot of money?
Would it take giant fucking cranes?
It would take forever.
Look at what they did.
They did this whole structure.
Of all these things.
rory albanese
Then you gotta get the guys to show up.
Think about how hard it is to get your kitchen done, you know?
The guy's like, I need two more weeks, you know, my stone guy's out of town.
joe rogan
How long would it take to build something that fucking crazy?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
And so the idea was that Aliens came here, built some things, fucked with our DNA, and got ghost.
See ya!
rory albanese
Fucked some early man.
joe rogan
Yeah, gave some early man a couple of pokes.
rory albanese
Exactly.
joe rogan
Like the coyote in your backyard.
I didn't finish that story.
So the brooding chicken that was in that cage, she honey-dicked my mastiff into smashing open the cage.
Because the mastiff just smashed the cage.
She was trying to get at the cage, where the chicken was.
The coyote was.
rory albanese
Oh, the coyote was.
joe rogan
And my master was like, I got this, and just smashed the fucking thing and tore it open.
And then she was running out the backyard with the chicken in her mouth and hopped the fence.
And I saw her hop the fence with the chicken in her mouth.
I'm like, I'm living in a goddamn Disney movie.
rory albanese
You are.
joe rogan
Look at this.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
I just watched a coyote snatch a chicken from the backyard.
rory albanese
From your yard.
Yeah, that's badass.
joe rogan
Ooh, it was wild.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the crazy thing is my fucking dog standing over there.
I was like, asshole.
What the fuck did you do?
rory albanese
He's like, I don't know.
unidentified
She's nice to you.
She's serious.
joe rogan
We're having some fun.
It's cool to kill chickens.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
rory albanese
Animals are animals.
You can't really expect much more from a dog.
He's like, I don't know.
That dude wanted a chicken.
Just trying to help.
joe rogan
These stones, what part of the world is it, Jamie?
So people can look at it.
jamie vernon
It's in Peru.
joe rogan
Peru.
And what's the name of the structures?
It's like something Taiyu.
God, I wish I could remember.
jamie vernon
It's in the Cusco district, Cusco.
I can't want to try to say that.
joe rogan
Peru's got some cool stuff.
That's not what we were just looking at earlier, though, is it?
That's the whole over structure?
That's what it looks like from the top?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's what I googled.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
jamie vernon
It's a fortress.
joe rogan
Dude, holy shit!
rory albanese
Yeah, that does look like aliens built it.
joe rogan
Well, or super sophisticated man that was wiped out in a disaster.
That's more likely.
But the crazy thing is how quickly then, if that's the case, how quickly then we came from some sort of ape man to what we are now.
You know, it hasn't been that long.
The amount of...
rory albanese
Well, how long ago do they think this was built?
joe rogan
This shit was built, like, at least a thousand years ago, I think.
rory albanese
Right, so...
joe rogan
I don't think they know, though.
See, the problem is, if you don't...
You have to get stuff from, like...
Something that someone ate or it has to be like a carbon-based thing you can't test the stone you can test some of the material in the stone or You know like scratches on the stone like in crevices and shit like that you can get stuff But when they're we've been around you know that would have been several thousand years of man Advancing at that point a thousand years ago,
right wonder cuz I mean I don't know when it's hard to say cuz I don't know when it was actually built when do they think it was built So there's all these theories and then there's these really fringe theories that push everything way, way, way back.
And that stuff gets resisted a lot.
rory albanese
Because the carbon dating though, right?
joe rogan
In some cases.
Occupied since 900. 900. Occupied since 900. That means 900 somebody moved in?
jamie vernon
Yeah, and then they said until about the 13th century.
rory albanese
That's a long run.
joe rogan
So who built it though?
Do they know when?
Do they guess?
jamie vernon
I think the Incas, I think.
joe rogan
Does it say like what year it was built?
You said occupied from 900. Yeah.
Does that mean like that's when they first moved in?
jamie vernon
Indicate the earliest occupation on the hilltop dates to about 900 CE. Oh, okay.
joe rogan
So, wow.
jamie vernon
They built it over 400 years or so, it sounds like.
joe rogan
So more than a thousand years.
rory albanese
Hmm.
joe rogan
A thousand years is hard to wrap your head around.
rory albanese
The Jewish calendar goes back to 5,700 years ago.
joe rogan
I know.
Isn't that nuts?
Man had a lot of time to get some sweet tech by 900. Yeah, it's so arbitrary that we start at zero and then start up again.
You go backwards and you go into negative numbers.
It's so stupid.
It's so dumb.
rory albanese
Blame the Christians.
joe rogan
It's weird how we do that.
Even with temperature.
rory albanese
Yeah, us not being on the metric system is pretty stupid.
It's so stupid.
joe rogan
Like you go to places near those Celsius.
It's 23 Celsius outside.
What the fuck is 23 Celsius?
rory albanese
That could be anything.
unidentified
I know.
rory albanese
I agree.
I'm like, so we're all going to die?
So we're all going to die.
joe rogan
Are we skiing?
rory albanese
I have no fucking idea.
So winter hat or shorts?
joe rogan
I have no idea, but they...
A lot of them know our stupid shit, which is interesting.
rory albanese
Yeah, there's more sort of a...
We're like...
That's like a real American move.
Like, they tried to switch over in the 70s to the metrics, and people were like, fuck you, I ain't learning some French math.
joe rogan
Dude, I remember it.
I remember it being taught in school when I was in school.
rory albanese
They tried.
joe rogan
They tried soccer, too.
rory albanese
Yeah.
Yep.
Just picking up now.
Just maybe a little heat now.
joe rogan
A little bit.
rory albanese
But yeah, it's funny to me, that stuff.
That's kind of what I love about America.
It's just like that.
We're not going to do that.
joe rogan
Not interested.
rory albanese
But the rest of the world, we don't give a shit.
joe rogan
Fuck you and fuck the metric system.
rory albanese
It sounds French.
It sounds gay.
It sounds like a gay system.
We're not using gay math, okay?
We're Americans.
joe rogan
It's better, though.
I mean, it's intense.
Why are we doing 12s?
rory albanese
No, it's better.
But it is confusing when somebody tells you a metric, you know, they say like, oh, it's a liter.
Like liters of gas, or if you drive in Europe, and you're looking at the, you know, speedometer.
It has the conversion on there for you, but...
joe rogan
Whenever you'd say like 12 inches is a foot, like, why 12?
Fuck is that?
What is that?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Why did you arbitrarily, you know, and it's only us and a few other countries that still accept that, right?
rory albanese
What, that 12 inches of foot?
joe rogan
Yeah, how many people do that?
Do they accept it in Canada?
Canada's metric, right?
rory albanese
And then three feet's a yard.
joe rogan
I think Canada's metric.
rory albanese
Yeah, it is.
I think most places are metric.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a friend from Australia, my friend Adam Greentree, and he talks in meters.
It's about 120 meters.
What is that?
What even is that?
rory albanese
You're like, how many football fields?
joe rogan
Yeah, how far the fuck away is that?
rory albanese
There's only two distances, I understand.
School bus length and football field.
That's not the only way things have been taught to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, how many meters are in a real unit of measurement?
Like a real one, like an American one?
How many meters, huh?
unidentified
How many feet are in that fucking meter?
joe rogan
You fucking goofy ass meter.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a yard.
I want to know what a yard is.
rory albanese
I need yards.
joe rogan
30 yards away.
Yeah.
unidentified
That's it.
rory albanese
Even when you're in school, the only way they teach you about the distance of things is stacked school buses or football fields.
They're like, the moon is 147 million football fields.
You're like, now I understand.
Whatever the distance is, but it's always converted to football fields and school buses.
joe rogan
Always, right?
Yeah.
rory albanese
As a student, that's all I remember ever in science.
That would be like taking school buses and going from here to Australia.
It's like, 97 million school buses.
You're like, whoa!
unidentified
That's true.
joe rogan
A school bus is like a constant unit of measurement.
rory albanese
Measurement and football fields.
It's all we understand.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's true.
rory albanese
It's true.
It's like, how far does she live?
Like two football fields and three school buses.
We could walk.
We could walk.
joe rogan
It's pretty cold, though.
rory albanese
It's cold.
So how cold is it?
24 Celsius.
Oh, so...
23 Celsius is probably like, is that like 70 degrees?
joe rogan
I have no idea.
I literally have no idea.
I know a little bit about kilos, but very little.
I know embarrassingly little.
rory albanese
How much?
joe rogan
75. 23 is 75?
Okay.
24 is 75. Alright, I'll remember that.
I'll remember that.
And that way if it gets to like 30, I'll go, hey, it must be hot as fuck.
rory albanese
Because zero Celsius is 32?
unidentified
Right?
rory albanese
Because their zero is freezing, which makes sense.
That's freezing.
joe rogan
Yes, but our 40 below is the same as their 40 below.
jamie vernon
Do you want to know the math trick?
It's tough.
It's 9 fifths Celsius plus 32. Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
9 fifths Celsius plus 32. Fuck you.
rory albanese
What does that even mean?
joe rogan
Just fuck you.
rory albanese
How do you do 9 fifths?
jamie vernon
It's almost a half, but it's just a little bit under a half.
joe rogan
Fuck somebody.
One of you.
Fuck one of you.
You need to figure out who's got a simpler thing that I can use.
unidentified
9 fifths?
joe rogan
Who's got a simpler thing?
Nine-fifths.
Get the fuck out of here with your Fahrenheit.
We need to switch over to Celsius.
rory albanese
But zero Celsius is freezing, and 32 Fahrenheit is freezing.
joe rogan
But it's not just offset by 32. Something happens around 40 below zero, they become the same.
I don't know if it maintains for very long, or if degrees get colder, and I don't know.
I don't know.
rory albanese
It's just zero makes more sense as the coldest.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's weird.
Like, how the fuck is...
If R32 is a Celsius zero, how the fuck is it the same thing at 40 below?
It doesn't even make sense.
rory albanese
It doesn't make sense.
jamie vernon
Here's another explanation for it.
rory albanese
And how are you not just adding 32?
jamie vernon
We're so stupid.
We're so dumb.
My friend gave me this tip.
Double the centigrade temperature, subtract the first digit of the result, and then add 32 to that.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
unidentified
I'm going to try that.
joe rogan
Aren't you really?
rory albanese
Yeah, so 23. All right, okay, so 46. And then what do we do with the first digit of the result?
jamie vernon
There it is right there.
joe rogan
So, 23 Celsius equals 74 Fahrenheit.
23. C times 2 is 46. Minus the first digit, so minus the 4. 46 minus 4 is 42. 42 plus 32 is 74. I guess it works.
Hey, fuck you.
Yeah.
rory albanese
By the way, that's the easy one.
unidentified
That's the easy one.
joe rogan
Well, what's amazing to me is, like, when you meet someone that lets you know, like, well, you just talk to them about math, and they can do, like, math problems in their head, and you realize, like, oh, I'm a baby, a math baby.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm a math baby.
rory albanese
Totally.
joe rogan
There's people that were, like, looking at that going, yeah, that's what you do.
That's obvious.
rory albanese
Oh, completely.
joe rogan
There's certain things...
74 degrees.
rory albanese
I'll have moments where, like I had this recently, I was just laying in bed, you know, in an insomniac state, like I often am in, and I was going, how do you do long division?
And I was like, I haven't done long division, and I tried doing a problem, and I got it wrong, and then I had to read.
I was like, oh yeah!
You know, like it was like, it was confusing, and I haven't done it in...
When's the last time you put out a pen and paper to do a long division?
joe rogan
Dude, I barely do the add the tip part thing right.
I have to make sure I get that down.
rory albanese
You just double it and move the decimal.
joe rogan
My adding sucks.
jamie vernon
I put that on my Instagram recently.
It was a question to get on into MIT in 1869. So it's really just the order of operations if you can figure this out.
joe rogan
Let E equals 8 in the following equation, and there's a bunch of...
jamie vernon
It's tough.
joe rogan
What is the numerical value of the equation?
Hint, as mentioned earlier, knowledge of the order of operations will be pretty important here.
Scroll down to read the answer.
jamie vernon
A lot of people did not get it right, but most people kind of got it right.
joe rogan
Well, what is it?
jamie vernon
The answer is 15 to this.
joe rogan
Are you well versed in these kind of equations?
jamie vernon
I remembered how to do it pretty quickly.
A friend showed it to me and I was like...
rory albanese
I don't remember how to do any of that.
joe rogan
Interesting.
rory albanese
What's that little check mark?
joe rogan
I'm fairly positive I never learned any of that.
Fairly positive.
But that's a good example.
Like, I'm completely illiterate when it comes to that.
jamie vernon
And that's a cube root.
No one knew what that was either.
joe rogan
A cube root.
Oh.
jamie vernon
It's like an exponent.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
rory albanese
Dude, I could...
I literally...
There's just nothing I could do with that.
joe rogan
Well, that's what's so fascinating about society.
And that's why, you know, if anybody tells, and it's not all good, but that's one of the things that's fascinating by society, is that there's so many different people with so many different abilities.
And there are people that gravitate towards that and are wizards at mathematics.
And there's other people like you and I that are good at talking shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
rory albanese
Yeah.
Thank God.
Thank God we live in a world where that can happen.
joe rogan
Oh, thank God.
rory albanese
No, I often think about how useless I'll be.
Like, if the apocalypse goes down, you're going to be like the dude you want to hang out with.
But if the apocalypse goes down, I'm done.
joe rogan
Dude, if the apocalypse goes down, whatever happens, you want it to happen in your neighborhood.
unidentified
You do?
joe rogan
So it's over.
rory albanese
Okay, gotcha.
joe rogan
If a meteor hits, you want it to hit your house.
If it's an earthquake, you don't want to eat gogs.
rory albanese
In a post-apocalyptic society, say we both survived it and we're living in a shantytown.
You have skills.
You can hunt.
You can do shit.
joe rogan
I can do some things.
I can teach you the things that I know how pretty quick.
rory albanese
I would bring no value.
Let's eat the Jew first.
joe rogan
You'd figure it out after a couple of weeks.
rory albanese
I can fix things.
I know how to fix things, but I don't know how to hunt.
Useless with a bow and arrow.
joe rogan
You'd figure it out.
rory albanese
Do you use a gun ever?
You've ever used a rifle?
joe rogan
Not anymore, but I would.
It's a better way to get meat.
It's more accurate.
You can do it from further away.
It doesn't require nearly as much discipline.
It still requires a lot of discipline, but not nearly as much as a bow and arrow.
rory albanese
Bow and arrow is just cooler.
joe rogan
It's harder.
It's way more difficult.
But then there's other people that use a traditional bow, and they think that guys like me are pussies, because I use a compound bow.
rory albanese
You mean like Legolas bow?
Like Bob Robin Hood style?
joe rogan
A lot of them use recurves, but some don't even use recurves.
They use an old-school stick bow.
rory albanese
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, these are people that want to make things tougher on themselves.
They want a bigger and bigger challenge, and it gets into this weird territory.
Some people said you should only hunt with a rifle because it's probably the most deadly thing that you could use in that situation.
So you shouldn't use a bow and arrow because you're not using a bow and arrow because it's more effective.
You're just using it so it's more of a challenge to you.
It's like a bastardization of the original idea of what hunting is.
Some people feel like that.
But then other people are like, no, no.
It's just a different kind of hunting.
If you do it correctly, you have less likelihood of success, but if you do it correctly, you have just as much of a likelihood of killing the animal.
So it's not like it's an unethical thing if it's done correctly.
It just requires way more work.
rory albanese
Yeah, and like you said, more skill.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you were in an apocalyptic scenario where we had to go out and get food and you and I went out, I could teach you what you'd need to know pretty quick.
You're not stupid.
rory albanese
No.
joe rogan
The hard part would be learning how to be accurate with a bow.
That would be the hardest part.
rory albanese
I want to learn that.
I was actually going to text you one day and go, what's a good starter bow?
I just want a bow.
I want to learn how to shoot a bow.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of good companies.
I use a Hoyt, but there's a bunch of great ones.
Matthews makes great bows.
There's a bunch of companies that make recurve bows, which are fun to practice.
Duncan has a recurve.
rory albanese
He does?
joe rogan
Yeah, he shoots it in his backyard.
He loves it.
rory albanese
That's cool.
joe rogan
It's just a fun thing to do, man.
Even if you never want to ever shoot an animal and you don't even want to eat eggs.
You're just straight up vegan.
Archery is a fun thing to do.
It's like a weird kind of a meditation.
Something happens when you're at full draw and you're holding on an arrow and then you release that arrow and it just sails right into the target.
It gives you this weird charge.
It's like you're doing almost like a form of yoga with your mind and your body together.
Because everything has to be perfectly still and then on the release, if it goes in the right spot, you get this big, It's a burst of satisfaction.
It's really interesting.
And you can't think about anything else other than the shot that you're attempting to make.
You have to keep your eyes on where you're trying to hit.
There's a mind thing going on with archery that's fascinating.
rory albanese
I do think, though, shooting a gun is like that.
Probably not as intense or meditative, but there's something...
When people are like, I don't know why anyone wants a gun.
I'm like, have you ever shot one?
I don't own a gun.
I live in New York City.
It's not really even an option for me, but...
It's, you know, like I said, you know, I've been on...
It was when I was in Afghanistan with some of those dudes, and they were like, take us to the shooting range, and we were shooting all their different...
And again, it was a war zone, so I'm not getting into my ethical...
You know, I'm not a huge fan of AR-15s for 18-year-olds, but I get why people want guns.
I get why people want to own guns, you know?
I think that's like the argument in the country.
It's like, I wish people would just like...
Take a beat and go, like you just said about the abortion thing.
I understand you feel that way.
That's okay, so you feel that way.
And then that way it becomes less of a conversation about, we've got to get rid of guns, more of a conversation about, like, alright, we just have to maybe just tidy up a couple components of it, you know, that kind of stuff.
joe rogan
We definitely have to figure out how to stop people from buying them legally when they're crazy.
Well, there's something wrong with them, right?
You know, I mean, here's a question.
How many of these mass shootings Were actually done by someone who was in the NRA? Well, according to the people on the right, none.
Is that true, though?
rory albanese
I don't know.
I mean, that's like the propaganda that's out there right now on Twitter.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why I wanted to ask you if you knew.
rory albanese
That could be a Russian bot.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
Just spreading that fake news, baby.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hashtag fake news.
But yeah, I don't know.
See if that's real.
Does that make sense to you?
rory albanese
Yeah.
I mean, it's an interesting question.
joe rogan
Well, if that is, then it gets weird.
Like, why is everybody attacking the NRA? Well, I know they're the ones who are making it easier to access these guns.
rory albanese
Right, they're the ones cock-blocking any legislation getting done because they're paying so much money to these congressmen and senators, you know?
I mean, did you saw that lieutenant governor, Delta, said they don't want to—first of all, I've got to be honest with you, man.
Like, I had no idea you got—like, your flights are cheaper because you own a gun?
I was like, what?
Like, I'm just getting ripped off on Delta because I don't own a gun.
Like, what a fucking bullshit thing.
joe rogan
Well, you could actually join the NRA and not own a gun.
rory albanese
Yeah, but it was just like, what the fuck?
I didn't know they got discounts, you know?
It was just such a weird thing to find out.
And now that Delta pulled that, it did, I was like, wait!
But, like, my passive mentality costs more money, you know?
joe rogan
So the thought is that the NRA has made it more easy for crazy people to access these guns, and so we have to take some of the power away from them.
rory albanese
Yeah, the idea that we can't raise the age to 21. Well, if you can go to war at 18, why can't you?
I don't know.
It seems like when you go to war, you're getting trained by the military, versus when you're just 18 and you walk into a gun store and walk out with an AR-15.
Nobody taught you how to use it.
Literally just bought a gun.
It's a strange, like...
My thought on it has always been, like, why not...
Like, if you have a driver's license for a car, but then, like, if you have to drive a bus or, like, a truck, you have to get a different class of driver's license.
You have to get, like, a Class D or a Class C, whatever the next level is.
There's different classes of driver's license.
Like, you can't just go buy a big rig and start driving it around the country.
You've got to get a license for driving a big rig, which means you have to go to school, learn how to drive one, learn how to park one, all the things that it fucking takes.
joe rogan
And you have to prove it to an expert.
rory albanese
Yeah, and you have to prove it to an expert.
joe rogan
We were actually talking about this yesterday.
rory albanese
Yeah, so why not just have it be that simple, which is you want to own a handgun, you get the Class A handgun license, you take your road test, which is like, know how to load it, know how to clean it, whatever the rules become, and then it takes...
What, four hours to pass the test?
It's like ten written questions, and then that's it.
And then you get the license, you get the gun, and it's yours.
And then next class, yeah, I'd like to own a shotgun.
All right, get a Class B shotgun license, take the class, take the thing, fine.
And then you get to like the AR-15 level, and now you have an instructor looking at the guy like, this guy doesn't seem...
It's got a little bit of a dead eye here.
Maybe we double-check this guy or whatever.
You can get a sense of people in that environment.
If it's a five-question question thing you have to answer, and it's like, what are your hobbies?
And it's like, eating rabbits alive.
You're like, yeah, man, that guy.
joe rogan
Do you think they hide those answers, though?
rory albanese
I don't know.
A real psychologist can spot a fucking crazy person based on how they hide their answers.
joe rogan
A real psychologist.
Do you think from the written word?
rory albanese
I think that you could devise a test.
I think you could devise a written test where someone would be like, this is an alarming answer to this question.
Because it references his mother and it has nothing to do with his mother.
Or whatever.
Whatever fucking weird, you know.
So, look, that sounds really unappealing to people and I get that they're mad, but that wouldn't be banning any guns.
You can have any gun you want.
You just have to do a very basic...
You know, rudimentary seven-question test and go to a firing range with a pro for two hours and he has to make sure you know what you're doing.
joe rogan
The NRA's perspective is they don't want to give an inch.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because if they give an inch, they feel like the ultimate is they're just going to lose ground.
They're going to lose more ground, lose more ground.
What's the slip It's interesting that whenever anything happens, now more than ever, I think people are demanding some sort of a change.
There has to be some sort of a change.
rory albanese
The poll says 75% of the country wants some kind of change.
Even Trump wants to raise the age, but it won't happen because the legislation won't pass.
joe rogan
It's one of those things where...
I seriously doubt, and I'm not saying this is a good or a bad thing, but I seriously doubt if we didn't have guns, and all of a sudden guns became a thing, and we all had to vote as to whether or not everyone should be able to have guns, I don't think it would have passed.
I don't think it would pass.
rory albanese
No way.
joe rogan
It's interesting though, because it exists now, and now, you know, most politicians Some are in favor of it.
Some are in favor of limiting it slightly.
rory albanese
Well, they got a lot of money.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They got a lot of money from the NRA. But it's also, like, who, and I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to have guns, but who wants us to have guns?
Like, if you're just going to be completely democratic, like, what percentage of the people actually want everybody to have guns, and what don't?
Just out of pure curiosity with no judgment.
unidentified
Ah, man.
rory albanese
What percentage want everyone to have guns?
joe rogan
No, want people to be able to have guns, and what percentage thinks that no one should have guns?
Like, if you had, like, the site Australia or something like that, they took all the guns.
rory albanese
I think it's a much smaller group of people that don't want anyone to have a gun.
Yeah, I think so too.
I think there's probably like 14% of the country that thinks no one should have a gun.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think the vast majority think we need some new sort of regulations and restrictions.
rory albanese
Absolutely.
Just reasonable restrictions.
I really don't think anyone is saying...
I mean, I think that people, it's a right that's embedded in the DNA of the country.
Whether you like it or not, it's part of the DNA of the country, and, like, it's something that's very important to people.
joe rogan
Does that stay, it just stays that way forever?
rory albanese
Well, look, I think that, to me, there are arguments that could be made about this, which is, You know, I don't think people really understand how everyone lives.
I think there's so many different lifestyles in this country that, like, you know, I think you have a perception of, like, say, like a suburban, just outside of metropolis kind of a mom that doesn't realize that for some people in the country, when they dial 911, it's like a 50-minute response time.
You know?
Like, it's not like there's, like, a local firehouse, and they, you know, like...
People feel like I have to be able to protect my family because I can't necessarily rely on the police to come.
I mean, I think that's true.
joe rogan
It does happen.
rory albanese
Yeah, and I also think that there's a component to people's fears of society unfolding and whatever that's perpetuated.
I actually believe that people From the dawn of time, have always believed they're going to be the last ones on Earth.
I believe that, that they're going to live through the apocalypse.
Because I really think it's all about FOMO, you know, fear of missing out.
And it's this feeling of, like, once I die, everyone else should die.
So, like, cool shit doesn't keep happening once I'm dead, you know?
joe rogan
I really do.
rory albanese
I think that people have this instinct of, like, I'm going to die with everyone else.
It's like, no, you're going to die, and then we're going to forget about you, and then cool shit's going to keep happening.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
rory albanese
And it's like, I remember when I left The Daily Show, I felt that way.
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, good luck, assholes.
And then, like, the show kept going.
I was like, oh, they're fine.
My life has no purpose, you know?
And it's that feeling of, like, you want to see...
It's like when a football player or whatever, any athlete leaves a team.
They're like, yeah, they're like, good luck winning without me.
And then they win the Super Bowl the next year.
I'm like, yeah, you are the problem, Jeremy Shockey.
joe rogan
I don't think that applies to the apocalypse, though.
I think the apocalypse is people understanding and knowing in their head that they're fragile and that their very environment is fragile and that we're lucky that it stays the way it is right now.
But the more we learn about...
Super volcanoes, asteroidal impacts, earthquakes, tsunamis, all the crazy shit that can happen to people, the more we realize how fucking incredibly fragile we are.
So we're always worried about the big thing that happens.
Because there could be a big thing that can happen.
If some super volcano blows, and there's ash that covers the sun, or blocks out the sun, and we lose all our crops, food shortages...
rory albanese
Yeah, it's like a nuclear winter.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's 100% possible.
rory albanese
Totally.
joe rogan
Earthquakes...
Fucking asteroid will impact all that shit's a hundred percent asteroid hitting the earth or not hit the earth.
rory albanese
It's just up to fucking what's floating around in space.
joe rogan
Dude, it's happened a ton of times.
And if people have been alive, if human beings have been what we are now for how many thousands of years?
What is like...
rory albanese
Ten thousand maybe?
No, more I think.
joe rogan
More than that.
I think...
rory albanese
I'm just thinking about modern humans.
joe rogan
Modern humans.
I want to say like 200,000 years.
Does that make sense?
rory albanese
For modern humans?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think that's probably wrong, though.
I think it's more like 50,000.
rory albanese
I guess it depends on what we're calling modern.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do we call modern?
rory albanese
Like a society that has an economy and a trade system, you know, systems of trade, roads, tools.
joe rogan
Shelter.
Right.
What do we got?
jamie vernon
Stone tools was two and a half million.
joe rogan
Stone tools.
rory albanese
But that's like caveman.
joe rogan
I saw an orangutan at the zoo using a stick to try to get bugs.
jamie vernon
Then the next thing says modern man is 200,000 years ago.
joe rogan
200,000.
Yeah, okay.
So they think that 200,000 years ago they essentially looked just like us.
Pretty close to us.
rory albanese
Yeah.
I bet if you saw a woman for 200,000 years ago, you'd be like, yeah, she's hot.
You'd be like, what the fuck?
unidentified
You think so?
rory albanese
Yeah, I do.
I do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a long time ago.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's a long time ago.
joe rogan
Are you swiping right?
What are you doing on your phone?
rory albanese
No, I was just looking up.
unidentified
I was just Googling that piece of information.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a crazy notion when you really think of 200,000 years.
200,000 years ago, we weren't even people.
We were some other thing that became people.
Like, what are we gonna become?
rory albanese
Yeah, I just, like, when you go back 200,000 years, it feels like you're You know, that's like pretty close to like caveman era, right?
joe rogan
Oh, that is caveman era, I think.
Which is really crazy.
rory albanese
It's not like ape-man, but it's like, you know.
joe rogan
Like super primitive human.
rory albanese
Super primitive, yeah.
joe rogan
But that's modern human, I guess.
But I think that was revised.
rory albanese
I was thinking more about like...
joe rogan
You were saying something recently that modern human was...
rory albanese
Like when you have trade and like...
Oh, like civilization.
Civilization, yeah.
Like that more, you know...
Versus the actual body being, you know.
joe rogan
I think they used to think it was where Iraq is.
I think they thought that was the oldest...
rory albanese
Mesopotamia?
joe rogan
Yeah, like that area.
Sumer.
They think that that was one of the first real civilizations.
They think that was the first, well, at least the first evidence of written language.
And there's a lot of it there.
Sumerian Mesopotamia is, in fact, the first known complex civilization, developing the first city-states in the fourth millennium BCE. It was around these cities that the earliest known form of writing cuneiform script appeared around 3000 BCE. Yeah.
I like how they go BCE now for the non-Christians.
Before current era.
Like, what is, wait, why is it current?
What is that BCE, you sneaky bitch?
I thought it was even earlier than that.
I didn't think it was just 3,000.
unidentified
But I'm saying that's going back like 5,000 plus years ago.
rory albanese
That's like the Jewish calendar, right?
5,700 years ago where they started keeping track of shit and they had like, you know...
joe rogan
So that's what they think about...
rory albanese
Language and trade.
joe rogan
That's what they think about all those structures, like the pyramids and all those different things.
They think that there was advanced civilizations that died off, and that that's why all those things were there.
rory albanese
Well, you know about the library in Alexandria, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
rory albanese
That's one of those things that probably lost thousands of years.
joe rogan
Yeah, they burned all the shit the Egyptians knew.
Like, thousands of years.
Like, we might not ever figure it out.
rory albanese
But I'm saying, like, just God knows what...
They had discovered and how we could have stacked our science on top of that and right now be...
Who knows?
We could be living to like 250 years old for all we know.
We don't know what they knew or how they built that shit.
That's like a total religious move.
Too much knowledge in here.
joe rogan
Get rid of it.
rory albanese
We're never going to be able to convince these people of an invisible cloud man if they could read these books or burn this fucking thing down.
joe rogan
Yeah, people had been apparently going back and forth to Egypt forever for knowledge.
They would go there to learn shit.
rory albanese
Yeah, and it was a lush place.
joe rogan
Do you know that Cleopatra is closer to the birth of the iPhone than she is to the construction of the pyramids?
Wow.
So if you go from Cleopatra to today is a shorter time period than Cleopatra to the construction of the pyramids.
rory albanese
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Wrap your fucking head around that jazz.
rory albanese
That's crazy.
joe rogan
And if you listen to Graham Hancock and John Anthony West, this guy was an Egyptologist who just passed.
They think that it goes back way further than that.
They think that the pyramids of Giza might be from 2,500 years ago, but they think there's a lot of shit in Egypt, giant things, including the Sphinx, that are thousands and thousands of years older than that.
rory albanese
Well, did you see that they just invented this new air sonar?
joe rogan
Yes.
rory albanese
They didn't discover that Guatemalan.
unidentified
Woo!
rory albanese
Society in the fucking jungle.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
rory albanese
My mind exploded when I saw that.
Crazy.
joe rogan
Did you see that Lost City of Z, that movie?
rory albanese
I didn't.
It's a movie I want to watch, but then I watched the trailer and I was like, eh.
joe rogan
Moshe Kasher sent me the book and I almost read it, but then I found out there was a movie.
I'm like, fuck your book.
rory albanese
I just jumped the gun.
Let's knock this out in an hour and a half, huh?
joe rogan
I'm sure it's not as good, though, because Moshe was raving about the book.
Oh, by the way, congratulations to Moshe and LaTosha for making people.
Oh, they made a person.
unidentified
Fantastic.
joe rogan
But that City of Z movie was really interesting because these people were just the rawest of raw adventurers.
I mean, they'd get horrible mosquito bites.
They'd go into the jungle, these crazy Englishmen.
And that, to me, was what was interesting about that book, to try to see...
I don't know.
It was really well done.
So I assumed that their version of what these English scholarly gentlemen were like when they were planning out these epic megatrips...
But when you're watching it take place, like the way they did in the movie, you really felt like that could have been how it went down.
And this crazy fucking guy went just deep, deep, deep into the jungle, looking for a lost civilization.
rory albanese
They kept journals and things, which most of those dudes did.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
You know?
You have to take, I guess, what they're writing with a grain of salt, because you're like, I want to make myself sound as badass as possible.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
But they definitely found some stuff and brought it back, too.
unidentified
For sure.
rory albanese
Yeah, they went.
joe rogan
They found pottery, and they found a bunch of different things.
Whoa, is that the guy?
Colonel Percy Fawcett?
Is that his head?
They think it might be his head?
Oh, dude, go to that page, please.
We need to know about this shit.
Strange stories!
Dun-dun-dun!
Yeah, they probably killed that dude and cut his head off.
I mean, that's what they were doing to people down there.
They probably got tired of this white dude stumbling around through the forest on the head thing.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
How do they shrink heads?
joe rogan
They cut your skull out.
This is the thing.
I used to think they shrunk the whole skull and everything.
I'm so stupid.
I already told you how dumb I am when it comes to eggs.
With shrunken heads, I thought, ah, they got some fucking solution that makes the head shrink up.
No.
No, they take the skull out, and then they take the skin, stitch it all up together, and then they do something with it to make it, like, shrivel up.
rory albanese
Like I put a coconut or something in there?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
I don't remember how they make it trivel up.
rory albanese
I would never in a million years if you asked how a shrunken head would be made.
joe rogan
And they stuff it.
rory albanese
I would have no...
I wouldn't even guess.
joe rogan
I think they stuff it too.
jamie vernon
I think that's his head.
joe rogan
That's homeboy's head.
Yeah, they chopped that dude up and did something to his head.
That is so crazy.
What a dark way of approaching other human beings.
They have his eyeballs stitched up.
They have a rope coming out of his mouth.
rory albanese
It looks like just a carrying strap.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be.
rory albanese
You know, you can put it on your belt.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, you might be right.
They stitched his mouth up though, right?
Doesn't it look like his mouth is stitched up?
rory albanese
Yeah, but it looks like a little neck.
It's like they made a keychain.
You know, that's what it looks like.
They got that little loop on the end.
joe rogan
Yeah, they carried that dude around their dick and just walked through the forest.
rory albanese
It was all for a novelty store in town.
That was their version of Forever 21. Yeah, a little, like, Hudson News in town with little knickknacks.
joe rogan
What a fucked up practice.
Cutting people's heads off, taking the skin off, stitching it all up, and shrinking it.
rory albanese
But, yeah, but again, it's like, we were talking about food.
It's like, we had a lot of fucked up shit we did here, too.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
rory albanese
You know?
Smallpox on blankets.
That wasn't...
joe rogan
That's not real.
rory albanese
It's pretty fucked up.
It's not real?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They didn't even know what bacteria was back then.
Oh, I thought they were just wiping it on sick people.
No, apparently it's an urban myth.
rory albanese
Definitely not urban.
It's a rural myth.
joe rogan
It's a wild west myth.
Apparently what happened was just the first European settlers, just alone by their presence, killed somewhere around 90% of the Native Americans all the time.
rory albanese
By bringing outside disease?
joe rogan
All kinds of crazy shit that people had no immune systems for.
And that this idea that they did it all with blankets would...
Look, this is not to say that people didn't do horrible things to the Native Americans.
They absolutely did.
And it's not to in any way diminish the genocide that took place on the Native Americans.
But...
I don't think that the blanket thing was true, because they didn't know how to isolate syphilis.
I mean, unless they just went to patients that had syphilis...
rory albanese
Or smallpox, by the way.
joe rogan
Or smallpox, whatever it was.
You're right.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's what I thought.
joe rogan
Syphilis killed Al Capone.
rory albanese
I thought they just knew, yeah.
joe rogan
I got my stories mixed up.
rory albanese
Which is a good way to go out.
I guess.
joe rogan
I think you go blind.
rory albanese
I'm being sarcastic.
joe rogan
But, yeah.
I just think the just exposure to Europeans killed the great many of them.
And there's a guy named Dan Flores that I had on my podcast that's an expert in the history of animals in North America.
rory albanese
I think I heard that podcast.
joe rogan
Fucking amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Guy's a genius.
He's brilliant.
But he was talking about buffalo and that when the Native Americans died off, like literally 90% of them were killed by European diseases.
unidentified
Wild.
joe rogan
It's just crazy.
And a lot of them that were killed off by Europeans, the buffalo, weren't hunted anymore.
So they grew to these mammoth proportions.
So it's his contention that those giant fields of buffalo that people experienced, where there was like thousands and thousands and thousands of buffalo stampeding across the field, that would have never taken place if the same amount of Native Americans had been there as previously.
rory albanese
Because they weren't controlling the population.
joe rogan
They were the primary predator, because all they did was follow these...
I mean, that's why they had these teepees.
A lot of them would follow the herds of buffalo, and they'd peck at them from the outside.
rory albanese
It's just nomadic culture, yeah.
joe rogan
And they just stayed with the buffalo, but they also kept their numbers down.
Because, you know, if there's several hundred Native Americans, or how many in their camp, they're killing a couple buffalo a day, every day, and everybody's eating it, and then there's no refrigerator.
So go after it again.
Yeah, keep following it.
So they're basically just eating buffalo and shooting arrows at them and Taking the populations down all the time.
That's so interesting.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I'd never heard it before He was on my friend Steve Ranella's podcast and he explained it on there and then Ranella explained it to me also Independently and then I had him on the podcast and I read his book, too He's got two books to see if you can find the titles of Dan Flores his books.
rory albanese
Yeah, I mean it makes sense that One of them actually is a paper.
Populations expand exponentially, right?
joe rogan
Coyote America, right?
Is that it?
Coyote America.
His new book is Coyote America.
It's about the history of the coyote in North America.
Dude, it's fascinating shit.
donald cerrone
Guy's genius.
rory albanese
Yeah, he looks like he knows a lot about, like, Northwestern animals.
joe rogan
And he lives in New Mexico.
You get street cred with naturalists if you live in New Mexico.
You know?
That's a place where there's a lot of dudes that have gray ponytails.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like a lot of gray dudes with ponytails.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
rory albanese
A little new-agey, a little scary, a little new-agey.
joe rogan
Santa Fe.
That's where Tate's from.
Tate Fletcher's from there.
Co-owner of Caveman Coffee.
Simply delicious and really pumps you up.
rory albanese
Well played, Seth.
joe rogan
Thank you.
You ever drink these?
rory albanese
No, I've never had one.
joe rogan
It's Caveman Nitro.
How susceptible are you to caffeine?
270 milligrams in that motherfucker.
rory albanese
Versus how much in a cup of coffee?
joe rogan
A large Starbucks, I think, is like that much.
Like a Venti Starbucks?
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many times have we gone over this and I can never remember the numbers?
I want to say that a Venti Starbucks is like 250 or 240, and that's a touch more.
rory albanese
I don't really need it.
joe rogan
All right, bro.
rory albanese
If you're scared.
I'll drink it.
joe rogan
If you're scared, bro.
rory albanese
I thought you were kind of giving me the vibe of like, look, I don't have too many, you know?
joe rogan
No, no, I have a ton of them.
I just got a new shipment.
No, that's not what I was giving the vibe.
I just always tell people, because I've given it to people, and then like an hour into the show, they're like, dude, I'm on crack!
rory albanese
I'm going to call you later and be like, I ran home.
I ran back to West Hollywood.
joe rogan
Okay, so a venti.
Wow, was I wrong.
415 milligrams.
rory albanese
Holy shit.
So this is a tall.
joe rogan
Wow, did they jack up the caffeine?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Was it always this high?
Come on.
Was it really always this high?
jamie vernon
I feel like we looked at it, maybe the numbers have changed.
joe rogan
Dude, I thought the old number for like a cup of coffee for a diner was 40. Isn't it amazing?
I thought it was 40 milligrams.
rory albanese
I always think about like, caffeine's just a drug.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
So this is just, these guys just steal a drug.
unidentified
Oh, no, no.
joe rogan
It's a drug in a delicious bean form.
rory albanese
No, but it's also addictive, you know, like once you're in, you're in.
You can't not drink coffee.
joe rogan
As a person who would like to deny all of his addictions, I can't follow with you on this.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I think it's a lovely cup of coffee.
rory albanese
You don't think that, could you wake up and not have one?
joe rogan
Why would I do that when it's real?
Why?
Why?
Just to show everybody that I can?
rory albanese
That's like when people are always like, pot's not addictive.
I'm like, have you tried not smoking it for a week?
I could anytime.
joe rogan
The average caffeine content of an 8-ounce brewed cup of coffee is 95 milligrams.
So yeah, so Starbucks is way more.
rory albanese
So an average cup of coffee is 95. That's a lot more.
joe rogan
I would have guessed that was way high.
I thought, I for some reason thought in my head like a cup of coffee from a diner.
You know one of those reasonable small cups of coffee?
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
I remember that being 40. But that makes sense because like a real cup of coffee is probably double that size anyway.
So it would be like 90. But 460, so it's not as bad as a venti.
It's more like a tall.
rory albanese
460?
joe rogan
A lot of caffeine, man.
I feel like they jacked that caffeine up.
Some people get super conditioned to it.
Like Tate.
My friend Tate, the owner of the company, he can drink five of those fucking things.
Just sit here and throw them back.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's also a gorilla.
He's a big giant dude.
rory albanese
That's a big factor.
joe rogan
It's a factor.
rory albanese
How much body weight you have.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's moving around a lot of tissue.
rory albanese
He's probably too.
240-ish.
I mean, I have friends who can drink like that, but they're just big dudes.
joe rogan
Giant dudes.
rory albanese
Giant dudes, yeah.
joe rogan
My friend Justin, I have a friend who's a legit giant.
He's like seven feet tall.
rory albanese
You do?
He's a fucking big giant dude.
Huge, yeah.
joe rogan
And he can put down some Makers and Coke that will fuck you up.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't try to keep up.
rory albanese
You can't try to keep up.
Yeah, I have a couple friends like that.
They're like, let's grab another one.
I'm like, dude, I'm going to die.
joe rogan
You'll go to the Darklands.
rory albanese
Yeah.
I'm like, I'll keep drinking, but let me...
To have a glass of water here, you know?
Dudes who just fucking booze.
I grew up with a lot of guys like that.
Long Island where I grew up, it's like a lot of Irish dudes who just...
We would be in high school and they would bring their own 12-pack to the party and drink 12 beers at a party like no big deal.
joe rogan
They look like a wine barrel.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those guys can put away booze.
They're built like a barrel for booze.
rory albanese
And they love beer.
They love beer.
It's not like if you want to have a whiskey with them, they're like, nah, let's have a beer.
Love beer.
Just fucking...
joe rogan
Beer gives you both carbs and booze at the same time.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like a double whammy.
rory albanese
They love it.
joe rogan
Double whammy of satisfaction.
rory albanese
It's like having whiskey and pasta, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, ew.
rory albanese
It's like what it's like.
joe rogan
But if you have, like, beer and crab, like cracking open some crab claws with an ice-cold beer.
unidentified
Delicious.
rory albanese
Delicious.
joe rogan
A nice Sam Adams.
rory albanese
I like beer in the can.
I'm not going to lie more than I like it out of the bottle.
unidentified
Do you?
rory albanese
Yeah.
I like a can of beer.
joe rogan
Pabst Blue Ribbon out of a can.
I feel like I'm getting back to my roots that I don't really have.
rory albanese
Yeah, I just like the like, or like Tecate's good out of a can.
Like I like having like a, because the can gets really cold.
joe rogan
Yeah, Tecate's good.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, Medello.
Do they have them in cans?
rory albanese
They might.
joe rogan
Do they say Medeo or Medello?
Is there one L or two L's?
rory albanese
Growing up it was, I think it's two L's.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
So wouldn't that be Medello?
rory albanese
Oh, it's one?
Well, there you go.
joe rogan
I just lied.
Medeo would be two.
jamie vernon
There's a Medea.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
Oh, sneaky bitches.
Trying to capitalize on that other name.
Is that what's happening?
Dum-dum-dum.
Modelo.
rory albanese
Oh, they got cans.
A special.
I think it's a lot of cans.
joe rogan
There's a video or a YouTube commercial that I watched the other day of this dude who's an astronaut.
And it's a Modelo commercial.
And he's a Mexican-American.
And his dad and him are out there Looking at the sky and they crack beers together and drink a beer together like that's really interesting I got I don't think I've ever seen a beer commercial with an astronaut before yeah, and it's like I kind of feel like it's hard to pull that off Unless it's a Mexican astronaut drinking a Mexican beer with his Mexican dad, then you gotta shut the fuck up.
Because people get really mad if you talk some shit about that commercial.
Here it is.
Look at this dude.
This dude was an astronaut.
Powerful.
Look at that fucking backdrop.
Holy shit, that's amazing.
rory albanese
I love this tune that they throw in here.
joe rogan
Yeah, inspirational music.
rory albanese
This is with that Jay-Z Blueprint.
He uses it in Blueprint.
joe rogan
Jose M. Hernandez, retired U.S. astronaut.
And so they click beers by the starlight, he and his pops.
You couldn't do that with Budweiser.
Could you do that with Jack Daniels?
Could you have, like, Jack Daniels?
What if Kid Rock's kid becomes an astronaut?
rory albanese
Yeah, that's not gonna happen.
joe rogan
Kid Rock clinking Jack Daniels bottles in a fucking cornfield with his son who's an astronaut?
rory albanese
I don't know why you couldn't.
joe rogan
Why not?
rory albanese
I mean, why do you think you can't do it with an American?
It feels like a very American thing to look at the moon and drink it.
joe rogan
People would protest.
rory albanese
Remember we put our flag up there?
Let's have a bud.
joe rogan
Well, soon we're gonna have war in space, Rory.
I don't know if you've been paying attention to the news.
Some Air Force guy was saying that we have to prepare for the possibility of war in space.
That this is an inevitable possibility.
Probably with drones.
rory albanese
Well, let me ask you this.
What was your take on that UFO thing?
joe rogan
What does this change?
jamie vernon
Space.
This was a UK ad for a beer.
It's all these astronauts in space.
joe rogan
They're in space drinking beer?
jamie vernon
Looks like Armageddon.
rory albanese
Wait, there's British astronauts?
I had no idea.
jamie vernon
Belong beer.
Wow.
rory albanese
That's cool.
British astronauts.
Remember that UFO thing that happened like two months ago?
joe rogan
Which one?
rory albanese
And they released...
The government was like, we have no idea what this object is.
And you heard the pilot in the air like, what the fuck is that?
joe rogan
I don't feel like I've seen that.
rory albanese
It came across it.
jamie vernon
Remember, they're like, the UFOs...
It happened right after Tom DeLonge was on here.
rory albanese
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Did we watch it?
Did we watch the video?
rory albanese
And the government literally confirmed that they don't know what it is and it's a UFO and it's doing things...
And then everyone just stopped talking about it.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
I don't believe these things enough.
I barely pay attention.
They come my way and I shut it off.
rory albanese
This was on, like, real news sites.
joe rogan
Right.
But what is the video?
Can we see the video again?
rory albanese
There it is.
joe rogan
Let me see it again.
Oh!
See, stop.
Hold on.
This has been...
Now I remember.
This has been debunked.
unidentified
It has?
joe rogan
Yeah, you know who debunked it?
What's his face?
Um, Mick West.
Mick West from metabunk.com.
What they did was they changed the perspective from 1x to 2x.
So when, see, when you're looking at something zoomed in, things move faster.
Your sight picture is much quicker.
When you're at normal, your sight picture's slower.
So like, as you zoom in, everything looks faster.
So when the thing moved out of frame so fast, it was because it had been zoomed in on.
Not because it took off at some insane rate of speed.
rory albanese
In other words, the pilot was just fucking with the government?
joe rogan
No, they didn't know any better.
Whoever released the video didn't look at it.
These Metabunk guys looked at the video, and you can see all the numbers on the screen.
When you look at the video, you see what his perspective is, X1, X2, and he points out, look here, it goes to X2, and then it just moves out of frame.
It's not even that it took off.
rory albanese
You're snapping in on it.
joe rogan
You're looking at it from a totally different perspective.
Now you're looking at it from a zoomed-in perspective.
rory albanese
That's interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, see if you can find it.
He's got a bunch of pictures.
rory albanese
My dream was that it was going to be aliens, and their goal was they needed plastic.
joe rogan
He's got a bunch of photos in it.
See if you can find the photos.
He points them out.
rory albanese
That's what I was hoping.
They were going to go like, our planet needs plastic.
Do you have any?
joe rogan
We have so much.
rory albanese
In the ocean, you can just take it all.
And then they just cleaned it all up, and things got better.
Like they went to the Pacific garbage patch, and just were like, and then they left.
unidentified
Mmm.
rory albanese
Yeah.
A specific garbage patch.
joe rogan
There's a kid who's got a solution to that.
Like a young man who figured out a solution.
God damn it.
I'm supposed to be in contact with that fellow.
rory albanese
I'd be curious to know what that solution is.
joe rogan
Some sort of a machine that skims the ocean for plastic and it collects all the plastic.
unidentified
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I don't know what it's powered by.
I I want to say it's powered.
It's a solar-powered thing.
That was the concept behind it.
rory albanese
Like a Roomba?
joe rogan
Dutch students' giant ocean cleanup machine is going into production.
Uventer says the technology will solve the marine plastic crisis, but some scientists are skeptical.
As they should be.
There are scientists.
jamie vernon
Boyan Slott.
joe rogan
Boyan Slott.
rory albanese
Look at how much it's growing.
joe rogan
Right.
I was connected to him through email.
rory albanese
How much it's growing by.
joe rogan
Let me write it down.
rory albanese
Eight million tons a year.
joe rogan
That's insane.
How do you spell his last name?
S-L-A-T. Plastic is growing eight million times a year.
We thought once we throw it away, oh, it's thrown away.
They've got it.
No.
Shit falls off.
There's fucking dumps.
They leave it sitting there.
Birds fly to the dump.
They pick it up.
They fly away with it.
They don't know what it is.
rory albanese
The craziest thing is how the ocean currents all lead to one place, you know?
unidentified
Weird.
rory albanese
It's so weird.
joe rogan
It's weird that you could see it all swirling together.
rory albanese
Yeah, and it's like the size of Texas, I think they said.
joe rogan
And they say it breaks down all the plastic into these weird little particles.
rory albanese
Yeah, and that's why they're pulling fish out with stomachs full of plastic.
joe rogan
Fish out with it and more birds.
Birds are dying and they're feeding it to their kids.
And they find babies in the nest that have these plastic caps filled in their stomach.
It's really horrible.
Have you seen that?
jamie vernon
There's the balloon.
joe rogan
To the stars.
jamie vernon
Party balloon.
joe rogan
That's what they saw.
Oh, yeah.
Is that really what they saw?
jamie vernon
That's what this says.
rory albanese
Stop it.
jamie vernon
It's on his website.
joe rogan
Well, it might be that.
rory albanese
You say they were tracking a party balloon in an F-16?
joe rogan
Is that what it's supposed to be saying?
jamie vernon
Yeah, the explanation I had on the other website said that exactly what you were describing as I was reading it, like the camera angles were off and you can follow the angle with the clouds moving with the balloon.
joe rogan
Well, once you zoom in on something, that's what happens.
I mean, if you've ever looked through a binocular, if you're trying to hold a binocular, the more powerful the binoculars are, The more, like, the picture at the end seems shaky.
rory albanese
Yeah, same as you zoom in on your phone.
Take a picture.
It's not an optical zoom, it's a digital zoom.
joe rogan
Exactly.
So that was the explanation for the bizarre behavior of that object, apparently.
rory albanese
That is so funny to me.
It was a party balloon.
joe rogan
What's that Jamie?
jamie vernon
There's another one too that was like this was the day before he posted which a second video similarly.
I don't know if this was the one that everyone was talking about.
joe rogan
Dude, nobody wants UFOs to be more real than me.
rory albanese
That's why I was asking you about it.
joe rogan
Nobody.
But I'm also I don't I don't buy a lot of the thinking that goes behind these things because people just want to think that it's real.
They want to think it's real so bad that they're not looking at it completely objectively.
If it is real We gotta know for sure.
And there's no way you know for sure this way.
This just doesn't seem like we know for sure.
This seems more like what he's saying is correct.
If you see the perspective shift, you see the way the thing moves shift.
rory albanese
But this is what we were talking about earlier about, like, the government and conspiracy.
Like, that's a perfect example.
The government's like, we have no idea what this is, and we're confirming it was a UFO. And then guys who aren't in the government are like, yeah, it's a fucking balloon, dude.
joe rogan
Jamie, scroll back down.
What does it say there?
This little animation.
It says the flare around the much closer engines rotate independently of the rotation of the plane.
What does that mean?
I'm not sure I get this.
I think we're halfway in the middle of this page.
That's part of the problem.
They're explaining something in a long, drawn-out...
Yeah.
Because it's infrared.
See, there's a lot of these things that have been proven to be horseshit.
And people see the video footage and they think, oh my god, it's a UFO. Oh no, it turns out it's an oil thing that's on fire in the distance.
Like, there's a lot of weird things that you see in these, like, real blurry infrared scans of shit or whatever that is, night vision scans.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
I want to see some real shit where you look at it and you go, okay.
rory albanese
Yeah, definitive proof.
joe rogan
That's a fucking UFO. Like, what is that?
Is that real?
And if someone says that there's no way they're going to fake that, then I'm curious.
But right now, I just think too many people want it to be real so bad.
rory albanese
Yeah, but for the Pentagon, the Pentagon sat on that for like 10 years and then released it.
And no one in the Pentagon figured it out until it got out into the private sector online and something was like, it's a balloon, and you zoomed in on it, you fucking idiots.
Look, it says 2X. That's my point about government conspiracies.
I'm like, yeah, it just seems like incompetence to me.
joe rogan
It could be.
rory albanese
Like, nobody looked at that closer.
They were like, it's a UFO we've known for 10 years.
joe rogan
But that's just the people that were responsible for that, that were incompetent.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Do you think that you would give the fucking UFO searching job to anyone you wanted to do real shit?
The UFO searching job is the job you give to your friend's cousin.
rory albanese
That's fair.
joe rogan
You get him a job at the CIA. That's fair.
You are going to be involved in a top secret operation.
rory albanese
Hey, Wachowski, get in here and we got a job for you.
joe rogan
You are going to be searching for UFO. What do you know?
rory albanese
What do you know?
joe rogan
We're going to rely on you.
You've been carefully selected.
rory albanese
Remember Spies Like Us?
joe rogan
This fucking stupid dude to interview people in their farms and shit that are all high on moonshine and crystal meth.
rory albanese
No, I saw it.
I saw it.
unidentified
It was lit up like a goddamn candle.
rory albanese
Remember that movie Spies Like Us with Dan Aykroyd and Chevy Chase?
unidentified
Yeah.
rory albanese
The premise of that movie is they're total fucking morons, so they use them as decoys.
joe rogan
That's gotta happen.
rory albanese
It's a really funny concept.
joe rogan
That's gotta happen.
That must happen a lot.
rory albanese
They give him a fake mission, like, yeah, just go here into Russia.
And then the Russians are looking at them, not the actual spot.
joe rogan
What was the movie with Springtime for Hitler?
rory albanese
Oh, the producers.
joe rogan
The producers.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's Mel Brooks.
joe rogan
Mel Brooks, sorry.
Did I say Woody Allen?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mel Brooks made a movie where they set...
rory albanese
Pretty similar.
joe rogan
Well, not really.
rory albanese
But they both wrote for Sid Caesar.
joe rogan
Yes, there you go.
It's about them making a play that they thought was going to be a total failure and turns out to be a smash.
They were trying to lose money.
rory albanese
Spring time for Hitler.
They wrote the biggest bomb they could make, because they figured out how to game the system, that if it's a bomb, they get all this reimbursement money, you know?
And everyone's walking out, and then all of a sudden, like, a moment occurs where they think it's a comedy, and they start laughing at it, and then, like, everyone's like, get back in here!
You know, the act two.
It's really funny.
That movie's amazing, dude.
Zero Marstel is the guy, yeah.
Is it Gene Hackman, too?
Maybe Ali Stock and Bloom?
joe rogan
God, is it Gene?
rory albanese
No, not Gene, Gene Wilder, I mean.
joe rogan
Yes, Gene Wilder, I think, isn't it?
rory albanese
I think it's Bialy, Stock and Bloom is their name.
joe rogan
Dude, I used to love Gene Wilder when he was paired up with Richard Pryor.
rory albanese
God, I'm such a Gene Wilder fan, dude.
I love that guy.
joe rogan
The producers, yeah, look at him there.
But when he paired up with Richard Pryor, those movies were magical, man.
rory albanese
Stir Crazy and Hear No Evil.
They did a bunch of them.
Stir Crazy was funny when they were in prison together.
I just re-watched with my nephew's Willy Wonka with Gene Wilder.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
rory albanese
It's fucking unreal how good that guy is.
joe rogan
He was amazing.
rory albanese
Everything he did was...
Oh, and Blazing Saddles, one of my favorites.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
He's almost like a forgotten genius.
rory albanese
Yeah.
He just died.
He just died last year.
joe rogan
You don't hear him talked about.
rory albanese
As much as he should be.
joe rogan
As much as he should be, yeah.
rory albanese
He's amazing.
joe rogan
The camaraderie that he had with Richard prior to was just so interesting.
rory albanese
He was real.
It felt real.
joe rogan
You remember when they walked into the prison like, that's right, that's right, we bad.
rory albanese
Yeah, we bad.
We bad.
joe rogan
See if you can find that.
rory albanese
He's like, follow my lead.
joe rogan
That'll get us kicked off YouTube, right?
Won't it?
Probably.
Somebody owns it.
rory albanese
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
These motherfuckers.
rory albanese
Even if you play a clip?
joe rogan
Yep, yep.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get pulled.
rory albanese
Yeah, I had that my nightly show.
joe rogan
There they are.
unidentified
That's so funny.
joe rogan
That's right.
That's right.
unidentified
We bad.
joe rogan
We bad.
Dude.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's stir-crazy.
joe rogan
Richard Pryor is one of the few great comedians that I loved as much in movies.
rory albanese
Look at him.
joe rogan
I loved as much in movies as I did seeing him doing stand-up.
rory albanese
Look at him!
Look how bad G. Wilder is at it.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
unidentified
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
This is so ridiculous.
rory albanese
Look how he's walking.
joe rogan
Like, they didn't know even, you know, like, movies back then were just so innocent.
rory albanese
They're also, like, scenes took so long.
Like, look how long this walk is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's right.
That's right.
This is not playing over YouTube, right?
No, okay.
It's probably frustrating for people.
rory albanese
Fantastic.
joe rogan
What is it?
The name of the...
That's right.
rory albanese
Stir Crazy.
joe rogan
That's right.
We Bad.
We Don't Take No Shit.
That's the...
That's the name of the clip if you want to watch it on YouTube.
rory albanese
Remember, also, like, Richard Pryor, that movie with Jackie Gleason, The Toy?
Oh, yeah!
That movie's funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, he had a bunch of great movies, man.
rory albanese
That was, like, so much of my childhood.
Yeah, Brewster's Millions was fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
rory albanese
John Candy, I think, is in Brewster's Millions.
joe rogan
Just a funny fucking dude, man.
rory albanese
The concept of Brewster's Millions is a great concept for a movie.
He gets $30 million, and he has to spend it all in a week, and he can't have any assets, and if he does it, he gets $300 million.
Yeah, so it's like he's got to like just get rid of all this money as fast as he can, you know?
joe rogan
I completely forgot about that movie if you hadn't brought it up Like here's a here's a freak out every year Every year they make new movies movies don't go away, but every year they make new movies Yep, like movies just get lost in the shuffle big time.
There's too many movies You know what the amount of movies yeah, so you could just watch uh-huh Has there ever been a time where people had more access to shit to entertain them?
Just content.
Constant, all day, sitting there glued, and it's just coming at you while you're completely immobile.
rory albanese
It's insane.
I mean, like, when you're flying on a plane now, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Hundreds of movies, right there.
Pick a movie.
rory albanese
It just plays in your seat.
I talk to people about this all the time, just like, you know, like, people used to just sit.
Like I was at dinner with my girlfriend the other day.
I left my phone at the table.
I went to the bathroom and for some reason there was a line for the bathroom.
There were like two co-ed bathrooms and there was like people waiting.
So I didn't have my phone and I just stood there.
And it was like much longer than I thought it would be.
And I'm just standing there with nothing to read, nothing to do.
And it's like...
joe rogan
It's bullshit.
rory albanese
And then I'm like, this is just how we used to live.
Like I couldn't even wrap my brain around it.
joe rogan
Well, it's how some people still live.
Like Ari.
Ari Shaffir with his flip phone.
rory albanese
Really?
joe rogan
That's how he's living.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
I don't know.
joe rogan
He just keeps that stupid fucking thing in his pocket.
rory albanese
Yeah, Kel has a flip phone, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, all those savages.
jamie vernon
How's he on Instagram, though?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got an iPad.
rory albanese
That's kind of a workaround, though.
That's when people are like, I don't have TV. I'm like, do you have the internet?
They're like, yes.
I'm like, fuck you, you have TV. Just because you don't have a cable box in your house doesn't mean you don't have TV. Hey, man, I've disconnected from TV. Do you have high-speed internet?
Yes.
All right, fuck you.
joe rogan
I watch HBO Go only.
rory albanese
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
I know it's not TV, it's HBO, but it's still TV. It is weird, right, that everybody wants to be the guy that tells you that they have abandoned television.
I just read a lot of books, man.
rory albanese
Yeah, really?
joe rogan
A little bit better than you.
rory albanese
Yeah, a little bit.
That was like the whole hipster movement.
joe rogan
Mostly I eat organic and just read.
rory albanese
Well, I just make my own pickles, but yeah, I guess buying them is fine.
You're like, fuck off, dude.
joe rogan
I make my own shoes.
rory albanese
Yeah, I'm a gobbler and a pickler.
I do think that there's periods of time where things are at their peak, like LPs for music in your home.
Sure, it's fun to have a record playing in some records, but at the end of the day, if I'm going to listen to music, I can just throw it on Spotify and it just plays forever.
It's fun, the novelty of putting on a record and listening and then taking it off and flipping it, but If the activity you're doing is listening to music, and you want to listen to an album all the way through, but if I wanted to play a tune for you, I can find it.
Find the line on the record that's that song.
Counting lines.
There's just...
I don't know.
I like that people have a tendency to try to keep stuff in its pure form, but at the same time, you're like, whatever, man.
You don't have a Victrola in your house.
joe rogan
But a Victrola's not good.
rory albanese
Doesn't sound good, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, Henry Rollins would give you a different perspective on it, because he's a fanatic about music.
rory albanese
Well, Neil Young, too.
Neil Young had a whole website he created for music to sound, to download music, and it's like raw music.
unidentified
Yeah.
rory albanese
Full LP form.
joe rogan
Well, he actually had a device that he was selling.
rory albanese
That's what it was, like a Zune or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was one of those things, and I don't know how successful it was, but for the audiophile, it was like one of the best sort of devices for digital music.
rory albanese
I thought it was just a website, but yeah.
joe rogan
No, he had a real device.
rory albanese
It's not compressed music.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Rollins has a crazy setup in his house though, and he loves records, and he's got these fucking speakers.
What did we find out how much those speakers are?
They're like quarter million dollars or something ridiculous?
rory albanese
I was gonna say like 15 grand.
joe rogan
Dude, no, he's got something bananas in his house.
unidentified
That's insane.
joe rogan
He's got some crazy setup, and so he'll like sit around and just like play music some days.
Just sit down and just play some music and sit and listen to music like that.
Look at his speakers.
And there's all his records.
unidentified
Holy shit.
rory albanese
It's crazy.
joe rogan
I mean, that's an intense experience.
I don't even think that has to be loud.
I think what you're getting out of that is just this pure sound.
It's not that Henry Rollins is destroying his neighbor's life every day with his music.
rory albanese
You're getting every level of the music.
You're getting every track, every...
joe rogan
I bet if we went to Henry Rollins' house and he played music for us, we could understand what the fuck he's talking about.
rory albanese
Sure.
But again, like, I love music, but to me, I don't know if maybe my hearing's not as good.
I'm like, whatever.
joe rogan
I don't know if you've ever experienced it.
Like, I've never experienced those things, but I've experienced, like, a really good car stereo.
Like, where you play, like, a whole lot of love, and you hear the cymbals all around you.
rory albanese
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's badass.
unidentified
Ah!
rory albanese
It's what headphones give you.
joe rogan
Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
But you hear it, like, move around.
unidentified
That's cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can hear that in a car stereo sometimes.
Or good headsets.
rory albanese
Good headphones again.
joe rogan
Yeah, that kind of go like these, like, over-the-ear ones.
You can hear some shit that you've never heard before in your car.
rory albanese
But that's where that Neil Young thing comes in, because if it's like a compressed iTunes file, it's not really there anyway, because they blended all the stuff into, like, one track.
joe rogan
Well, Jamie, you've tried to explain the whole record sound, right?
It's like a warmer sound, isn't it?
A little bit, yeah.
jamie vernon
I mean, I was going to say that what you were just describing is they used to sell that as, like, in stereo or, like, mixed in stereo.
Before there was even stereos available.
It just means it's a left and right mix.
So you're hearing things mixed.
rory albanese
Yeah, versus mono, which is just everything stuck together.
But if you, like, play around in a...
Garage band, you can really start to understand what it is, because you can lay down several different tracks of different music, different instruments, different things.
And then, if you want, you can mix them all together into one strip of content.
But if you keep them all separately, they're all playing as more of a symphony.
But it's a much bigger file.
You know?
But if you compress it into one, then you can make, like, an mp3 out of it.
joe rogan
Right.
And then it sounds just flatter.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
But, you know, it gives you the ability to, like, raise the drums or lower the, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
So it's...
You can see why if you're a real audiophile or a real musician, you're like, that's the only way I want to hear music.
joe rogan
Yeah, I could totally get it.
I mean, I totally get it.
Especially someone like Rollins, who's a musician himself, and probably has a deeper appreciation for the sounds and their purest forms.
rory albanese
Of course.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Do you know what octaves are?
Do you understand what octaves are?
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
So if you look at a piano, it's really only like eight keys over and over and over and over again.
So there's like a C, but it's on that keyboard eight times.
So if you hit all the Cs together, they kind of harmonically sound really good.
That's when you can kind of tell that something either feels bad or it kind of sounds weird when it's not harmonically good.
There are times maybe you would use that.
In hearing, those harmonics are also hertz, like frequencies.
They kind of go on forever.
Our human hearing stops around 20,000.
If our adult males probably has been ruined a little bit, it's a little bit less.
But that's when you have these giant speakers.
They kind of allow the sounds that even we can't hear to exist because they affect the ones we can hear.
And when you're compressing them, those sounds kind of get chopped off because you don't really need them.
And that's when digital music can kind of sound bad and then this radio or record quality...
I don't mean radio.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's why the resurgence of records came back, yeah.
joe rogan
It's also people love the ritual of laying the record down the turntable, putting the needle on the crack, sitting back, you know, hey man, they made this in 79. They were the last remaining people from Woodstock.
rory albanese
There is like a...
Component of rock music that just peaked at a certain time and sounds a certain way.
Right.
I know Zeppelin stole a lot of stuff, but there's something about that.
Even the Creed, those dudes, their voices were like...
unidentified
That was a real original band, too.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a bad moon on the rise.
rory albanese
And then one of those dudes...
joe rogan
Fortunate Son, that's another great one.
rory albanese
And who sings Simple Man?
What do you call it?
joe rogan
Allman Brothers?
rory albanese
No, Leonard Skinner.
joe rogan
Oh, Simple Man, that's right.
rory albanese
That's one of the most fucked up stories of all time, though, the way those guys died.
Do you know that one of them survived the crash and got shot by a guy whose land he landed on?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Did he survive the bullet?
rory albanese
No.
joe rogan
That's what killed him?
rory albanese
Everyone died in a plane crash and this guy's like, holy shit, I survived.
unidentified
Fucking shit.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
rory albanese
It's like the worst thing.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where'd they crash?
rory albanese
I think in like a swamp or something.
joe rogan
That's right.
Now I remember the story, but why did I think that the guy survived the bullet?
Imagine that shit getting shot.
rory albanese
Maybe I'm wrong.
I thought he died on sight.
joe rogan
You might be right.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
I have no idea.
rory albanese
Like, holy shit, we survived!
joe rogan
Boom.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
rory albanese
It's the worst.
joe rogan
Fucking plane crashes.
Killed Rocky Marciano, too.
Buddy Holly.
The Big Bopper.
rory albanese
Big Bopper.
Richie Valens.
Selena.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Selene got killed by her assistant.
rory albanese
Oh, there was somebody who crashed in a plane.
joe rogan
Aaliyah.
rory albanese
Aaliyah.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
You're a racist.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're a racist.
rory albanese
They both end in a...
Stevie Ray Vaughan helicopter crash.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How quick are people to pull the racist trigger these days?
They're just ready.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Fucking...
rory albanese
I got one!
I had one the other day where I was at a New York comedy club in New York, and the manager, there's this guy, Drew, awesome guy, and...
He's a black dude.
And I was leaving and I said goodnight to him, but I said goodnight to another black dude.
They were like basically wearing the same thing, but all the comics in the bar, it was like a bunch of black dudes.
They were like, oh!
I'm like, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm like, I guess I'm racist.
Everyone was laughing, but it was one of those moments where I'm like, yeah, I have no excuse.
I wasn't paying attention, but at the same time, I was like, see you, Drew!
And he was like, I'm Dre.
I'm like, oh, I'm an idiot!
And I don't think that's...
Obviously, it's not because I can't tell black people apart.
I just was like, On my phone, half paying attention.
It was like peripheral vision.
But when those moments happen, it's just funny to be like, yeah, you got me, man.
joe rogan
It's just in my DNA. If you thought it was a white guy, and it was a different white guy, nobody would give a shit.
rory albanese
Nobody would give a shit, yeah.
But I get it.
At least in the comedy world, you make a joke out of it.
In the real world, I'm at a comedy club, everyone's fucking around.
But in the real world, no, you do that, you look like a dick.
joe rogan
We're in one of the last groups of people that do something for a living that you can...
We get away with saying ridiculous shit to each other, and we all like it.
rory albanese
Well, I think it's dying, though.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Comics?
rory albanese
I'm noticing, depending on who's in the room, comics.
Like, there's certain comics now that you can say stuff, and they get offended, and you're going, well, I'm out.
Like, that's how I always felt about writer's rooms.
The best thing about a writer's room in a comedy show...
Is the ability to say stuff that you cannot say in civilization.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
rory albanese
Because even just to jumpstart the room, the horrible things you can say.
joe rogan
But do you worry about doing that now, though?
Would you worry?
rory albanese
I don't worry about it, but I am much more conscious of, like, if we're sitting at the table at the Comedy Cellar, I'm much more conscious of sitting around the table.
joe rogan
And just not saying something completely outrageous for just the jolt of it.
Which a lot of people used to do.
rory albanese
Well, yeah, I'm one of those people.
If I'm hanging out with Rich Voss and Keith Robinson and those dudes, yeah, fucking unleash the hounds.
But if there's newer people I don't know, I'm just going out.
Especially younger comics, there's that millennial component where they don't get that part of this is...
Saying absurd things and pushing it a little bit on stage.
You've got a lot of groans, I'm sure.
You've got that groany thing that happens to people if they think you're going down the wrong path.
That's not a reaction.
joe rogan
Trying to keep you in check.
Don't go against my values.
unidentified
I can't believe you said that out loud.
rory albanese
My professor would not allow that thought.
joe rogan
Bring it back to where I want it.
rory albanese
That's why I thought Chappelle's two specials and the last two were so good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
And he makes that point.
He's like, our job.
It's our job.
If you see a comic not doing that, he's not doing his job.
joe rogan
Yeah, the job is to push the line.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
rory albanese
I agree, but look, there are days where you're like, it's exhausting.
Oh, of course.
If you're not funny, you're wasting everybody's time.
You have to be funny first.
That's the goal.
The goal isn't to go up there and make some remarkable point and go, goodnight, everybody.
Think about that!
joe rogan
That used to be a thing, right?
rory albanese
And that's one to grow on.
No, I think you've got to be funny, but in being funny, if you can't You know, nudge people a little bit.
It gets boring.
joe rogan
Well, especially each other.
That's what people don't understand.
If they really listen to the way we talk to each other, like, one of the things that people love is some of the podcasts that I do with Ari, rather, and Tom and Bert, because they're so mean to each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, Ari calls Bert, what did he call him, an idiot fuck?
He goes, it doesn't work that way, you idiot fuck!
unidentified
And it's just like...
joe rogan
And for a regular person in a regular meeting in some fucking insurance office, that would be the end of the conversation.
Human resources get called.
Someone will get a settlement.
rory albanese
Completely.
I mean, I found that the difference between the daily show writer's room and the nightly show writer's room was we went out of our way and we made it the most diverse writing room you could have ever been in.
But that also caused problems.
Because now all of a sudden you've got a right-wing dude and a sensitive Brooklyn person.
And so half the time I was like, okay, everyone stop.
You're right.
Brown is an Ivy League school.
And I see what you're saying about the fraternities there.
It was that kind of stuff.
joe rogan
Political discussions?
rory albanese
People would get heated about something they were passionate about.
And I'd have to blow the whistle and go, everyone stop.
We're fucking around.
And people would get upset.
People would...
You know the kind of shit like...
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting?
rory albanese
Somebody would pitch...
Something one day happened where somebody pitched a joke, and another person's phone had as their ringer, or their alert for a text, a cricket noise.
So somebody pitched something in the meeting, and it was a shitty...
It was just a shitty pitch, which we all have done in a writer's room, and all of a sudden it was like...
And I went, man, that was so bad.
The fucking crickets came in, and...
Everyone left, but then later on, I found out that the writer was upset, and the guy who had crickets on his phone, they had a fucking thing about, why if I'm gonna have crickets, you fucked me up, and I was going, oh shit, no, no, no, no, no, you're a great writer, and I was just, it was just a cricket joke, like, you know, but it's, I don't know, so that, with The Daily Show, was not that way.
The Daily Show, like, when I first started working there, and I was like a production assistant, and I'd go into a writer's room, I'd come out, like, wanting to cry.
That's how mean those guys were to me.
I'd be like, I'd have a tape to show them.
I'm like, I got some footage to show you guys.
They'd be like, suck a dick!
They would just rip.
It was like doing a roast every day.
They were like, that shirt's stupid.
That thing is dumb.
And I'd be like, okay, you guys are all...
joe rogan
They just made fun of things constantly.
rory albanese
Constantly.
And that's why the show was so good.
Yeah, when I became that guy, I was like, yeah, I'm like, eat shit, dude.
I ate it.
Have some.
Because you got hazed, and then you got to the next level, and you hazed the next guy.
joe rogan
But in a writer's room, is that a necessary way to think?
Yeah.
To fuck with each other?
rory albanese
I think it's necessary.
joe rogan
In that kind of a show, it's not...
rory albanese
I think it's necessary because you're watching a lot of somber shit.
You're watching news, you're watching C-Span, you're watching speeches.
joe rogan
And you're trying to make funny out of it.
rory albanese
Yeah, so you gotta, like, come in there silly.
So sometimes it's just getting that energy in the room.
You know, it's like a warm-up.
And sometimes it's like doing warm-up, like having a warm-up comic.
You know, it's like, you gotta get the energy up.
You can't watch it and go, oh my god, this is terrible.
This is about war.
You gotta watch it and be like, hey, nice shirt.
I always wanted to do a show called, I always wanted to do a spoof called Warm Up Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, you know?
And it's like, just driving around the city, be like, hey, look at this asshole, nice tie, you know?
And like, dudes in traffic lights are like, hey, why don't you stop sooner, old man, you know?
But it's that kind of thing, where sometimes you're just fucking, it's just getting the energy going.
Just trying to get the comedy ball rolling.
Yeah, but those guys were mean, they were.
They were all out, and they were like old grizzle stand-ups, and they were mean.
joe rogan
It's different, I was going to say, it's different than our sitcom writers' room, too.
Because sitcom writers' room, they have to think about character development, where the plot's going.
You guys are reacting to the plot.
rory albanese
There's no Bible or anything.
joe rogan
So it's almost like you have to be more aggressive in that position.
It's almost like everything is a reaction to an affront.
I get to a front to your sensibilities, to your information.
rory albanese
And trying to look at it, like, not as a human.
You know, like, you can't look at it as, like, a reasonable-minded person.
You have to look at it, like, what's the obscure take on this?
What's the way to make this funny?
You know, so you can't come in and go, you know, like, you can't watch the State of the Union and go, wow, that is a good point.
unidentified
That is dangerous.
rory albanese
You have to watch the State of the Union and go, wait, did he just say, what did George Bush say one year?
Human-animal hybrids?
You know, like, things like that.
Where he's like, we gotta watch out for human-animal hybrids.
And we're like, well, let's have some fun with that phrase.
unidentified
Did Bush say that?
rory albanese
Yeah, he said it.
joe rogan
Was that recent?
rory albanese
No, that was State of the Union, probably like, 03 or something.
You know, like, ones that I just remember, like, we gotta have 50 tons of mustard gas on a farm, whatever.
Like, little these little weird phrases as he was trying to sell the war to people, you know.
And then we would grab them and make little montages out of them or create the scenario of what he's talking about.
joe rogan
That's a fucking human hybrids thing.
Where's he getting that?
Wasn't there something that they were talking about doing some research really recently?
They were gonna make a human-pig hybrid?
rory albanese
Yes.
Because they're gonna harvest the organs.
Yeah, they're gonna grow organs.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
What if they give you a better one?
Like, what if they give you a heart and it's like 50% better?
rory albanese
Yeah, they're like, hey, you want a bigger dick?
We just grew one on a pig, you know?
You want a pig dick?
joe rogan
What if they give you a pig heart, but then you start thinking like a pig?
rory albanese
Yeah, that could happen.
joe rogan
You realize some of the thinking takes place in the heart.
rory albanese
But I think what they actually do is grow a human heart in a pig, is the idea.
I think they grow human organs in a pig, so it's not a pig's heart.
joe rogan
But maybe the pig memories get into your human organ.
rory albanese
Yeah, that would make sense.
You get some pig memories.
joe rogan
Hold on, go up to the top so we can read the thing.
Human-pig hybrids created in the lab, here are the facts.
Whenever you hear that, they've already been making people out of pigs, right?
By the time you hear that, by the time it gets to us, I mean, how far down the ladder are we on the information food chain, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, the people- Look at those pig lungs.
Ooh, their pig's lungs are breathing.
What in the fuck?
rory albanese
Yeah, this is nuts.
joe rogan
Watch pig lungs filter human blood in a lab.
Holy shit, man.
rory albanese
I have a Google alert set for that.
Watch pig lungs filter human blood in the lab.
joe rogan
You'll get overwhelmed.
It's every day.
You just don't stop with the pig blood.
rory albanese
Pigs grew a human ear on a rat, didn't they?
They grew a human ear on the back of a mouse.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know what that was about, though.
I mean, that was about a place of concept thing.
I don't think they were taking the ear off the rat.
I think they were, like, trying to show that they could do that, and now they do it to people.
Like, they'll grow you a ear in your forehead.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you keep that for a couple of years.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then they cut it off and then put it on your ear.
I'm not joking.
rory albanese
But you don't want it on your forehead.
joe rogan
That's where it would grow best.
rory albanese
You put it on your back?
joe rogan
Yeah, this guy, he had a nose growing on his forehead.
rory albanese
Stop.
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
unidentified
It looks like Photoshop.
rory albanese
That's Photoshop.
joe rogan
No, it's not Photoshop.
He had an accident where his nose was severely damaged.
So they grew another nose on his forehead and then removed it from his forehead.
See?
That's real.
rory albanese
It looks photoshopped.
joe rogan
That's insane.
How dare you distrust me.
rory albanese
I believe you.
I'm just trying to tell you the truth.
It looks photoshopped.
joe rogan
So this dude had a fucked up nose.
They grew him this nose on his forehead.
Oh, it's our friend Philly DeFranco.
So see if he's got any actual footage of Homeboy's nose.
That's it?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
That's what I was hoping for.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure that's a real story.
What is that?
Guy's growing a hand out of his foot.
Sometimes they'll do that if your hand got severely damaged.
Hand kept alive on a leg.
Okay.
rory albanese
That's so fucking weird.
joe rogan
I'm good.
What does that guy got?
He's got his ear growing out of his arm to replace his other ear?
Alright, bro.
They're going to be able to grow that shit in a lab soon.
It's going to be an interesting fucking time.
And I like your idea that we think that we're missing, like, what comes next.
That we're going to miss it.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it seems like things are happening at such a crazy rate that if you did check out now, you might just miss immortality.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
rory albanese
Yeah, you might.
Or you might miss downloading your brain.
unidentified
Yeah.
rory albanese
They're working on that.
joe rogan
Look at this.
rory albanese
Downloading your conscience.
What the fuck is that?
joe rogan
Screw a horn.
Horn blew out of her head.
rory albanese
What?
joe rogan
A shit horn.
rory albanese
It looks like she just took a dump out of her head.
joe rogan
She's got a shithorn.
Could you imagine if this poor lady lived in, like, fucking 1800s?
They had to shoot her right in the head with a monster.
This demon woman.
You know?
rory albanese
But also, how do you let your shithorn get that big?
Like, the second it's out of your head, you go into the doctor.
joe rogan
Anybody ever grabbed it and rode that face?
Do you think anybody ever got busy holding on to that thing?
That'd be a hell of a handle.
Do you think it's hard like a rhino?
Or do you think it's like hair?
Like one giant fucked up clump of hair that just plowed through the hair pore.
unidentified
What is it?
rory albanese
Like a tatnus horn.
That's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy's- he's in a Stephen King movie.
Look at that.
Guy's got a horn.
Okay, no one would ever let that person live in another world.
Look at that, it's crazy.
Some people just grow horns?
How many people?
What in the fuck, man?
rory albanese
How do I not know about this?
joe rogan
How many people grow horns?
Dude, that's crazy.
This lady has a giant one poking out of her head like a...
rory albanese
Is it me or is it a lot of Asians with horns?
joe rogan
Hey, don't be racist.
I've already told him before and after the podcast, yet he continues to talk about the differences in racism.
rory albanese
I'm observing.
joe rogan
In a very, very demeaning way.
rory albanese
I'm not lying.
You'd think it'd be more Jews, you know?
They're supposed to be the race with the horns.
joe rogan
Oh my god, I can't believe you.
What's that guy's ear?
That guy's got a universe living in his ear.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Whoa, they have horns coming out of their face.
rory albanese
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Whoa, some people have horns coming out of their fucking cheeks.
This is nuts.
rory albanese
Cheek horns are crazy.
joe rogan
Who gets them?
Make that bigger so my stupid eyes can read it.
What does that say?
Between 60 and 70. Cutaneous.
Is that how you say it?
rory albanese
Cutaneous horns.
joe rogan
Cutaneous horns are more common in older patients.
With the peak incidence, those between 60 and 70. They're usually common in males and females, though there's a higher risk of the lesion being malignant in men.
They're more common in people with fairer skins.
Huh.
That's the Asian thing, I guess, huh?
Would you consider that?
But some Asians don't have fairer skin, like the South Pacific Asians.
unidentified
It's not.
rory albanese
It's just that website had more Asians.
joe rogan
Wow, man.
How weird.
People get fucking horns.
Yeah.
rory albanese
I just think it's weird that you don't deal with it right away.
joe rogan
Imagine trying to explain to someone a thousand years ago, if you had a horn, that you didn't do anything.
Like, I swear to God, I didn't make a deal with the devil.
You carry the mark.
rory albanese
You definitely get drowned.
joe rogan
The mark of the beast.
It grows from his head.
We must smite him.
We cannot have him sleep when my children sleep.
rory albanese
That would probably happen in like 1960, too.
joe rogan
I heard he does not sleep.
unidentified
I heard him on my rooftop last night.
joe rogan
On his haunches, breathing heavy.
unidentified
Can I run to the- Yeah, yeah, use the little boys room.
rory albanese
My nitro came right through me.
unidentified
Rory.
joe rogan
Can't handle his nitro.
That is a fucked up thing, man, that some people get horns and some people just look like...
Like, uh...
Kate Moss.
Eye horn.
She's got an eye horn.
Oh.
Kate Upton is what I was looking for.
Kate Moss came out.
Whoa, look at that lady's face.
Okay, don't do this to me, Jamie.
We don't need to do this.
Staring at people's horns.
Just if you ever think that you're unlucky, ladies and gentlemen, just Google horns.
This guy's got a horn coming out of his nose.
jamie vernon
That's gross.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not good.
jamie vernon
Off the lip.
joe rogan
Guy's got a horn coming off his lip.
Holy shit.
If that's herpes, then we have a real problem.
Houston.
Houston, we got a real problem.
This is disturbing.
Cut it out.
jamie vernon
Yeah, how long do you think they'd grow for?
Or it takes to get that long?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's a good question.
Like, do you let that go?
Do you let it go?
Like, when do you go to the doctor?
You got a fucking horn.
But a lot of those people, like that one guy that had a horn growing out of the back of his head, that guy looked like he was in a very, very rural area with dirt ground.
jamie vernon
Well, not a cat.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
This cat has a horn.
That's a dog, bro.
jamie vernon
It's his cat.
joe rogan
Is that a cat?
I guess it's nose.
I thought his nose was that black spot.
Wow, what is that?
Oh, that's that dude that had that fungus...
jamie vernon
The tree thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had that horrible fungal infection, like warts that covered his whole body and made him look like a tree.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
Dude.
I mean, what in the fuck is that?
That's like a life form that's consuming another life form.
Like the barnacles on a pole that's stuck in the ocean.
I mean, it almost is like that.
Like these...
Things are growing on his skin.
What is that?
jamie vernon
Fungus and spore.
joe rogan
It's a wart, right?
A wart's a disease.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if it's a disease, that disease is actually growing on his skin.
That's what all that is.
jamie vernon
Yes, it's a wart.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
Motherfucker.
Nature can be ruthless.
Imagine being that dude.
And you're like, why me?
Like, what kind of shit luck is this?
We're looking at this guy who's got, there's a few people that have it apparently.
They have this tree disease where it looks like they grow, it's like a wart, a wart disease that gets completely out of control.
The guy died?
jamie vernon
Described it as the cutaneous horned skin.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
So it's the same thing?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just all over his skin.
rory albanese
You know what that actually looks like?
unidentified
Look at that.
jamie vernon
That's not real.
rory albanese
No, that's the guy from...
joe rogan
Look at that, but that's real.
His skin has become like a beast.
rory albanese
It's like...
You watch Game of Thrones?
unidentified
Yes.
rory albanese
That stone skin disease?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
joe rogan
It does look exactly like that.
rory albanese
That's weird.
joe rogan
Fuck, it's weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Maybe that's what Medusa...
Myth came from people growing and getting that, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
rory albanese
Oh, like Snakehead?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Maybe it just got distorted over the years to be like you froze like a stone, but instead you were just covered like a rock.
Yeah, I mean, a disease like that, if you got that shit a thousand years ago, people would absolutely be convinced you were cursed.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, something did that to you.
A demon possessed you.
rory albanese
Well, think about, like, the logic to early medicine, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
It's like, your head hurts.
We should let some air out of it.
Like, it was all that kind of shit.
joe rogan
They drill holes in your head.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
How about someone had a seizure, they thought you were possessed?
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if you had a seizure...
Like, the devil's inside her!
Hold her down!
rory albanese
The old Steve Martin sketch on SNL. I'm the barber!
Remember that?
He was like a medieval barber, which is like their medicine man.
You know, he's like, trust me, huh?
Who's the barber here?
We're just going to drain your face, you know, if like it's built...
All of his remedies were just death.
joe rogan
I watched The Exorcist again the other night.
Whoa.
Did it go through the head?
jamie vernon
That's what a lobotomy was.
joe rogan
They go through the eyeball?
jamie vernon
Right through your eye.
joe rogan
Right through the eye corner.
unidentified
Your eye?
rory albanese
I thought that was going up your...
Oh, wow.
I thought it was going up their nose.
joe rogan
And then they just scramble it.
jamie vernon
Stir it around.
joe rogan
Imagine.
Imagine.
What a great idea.
rory albanese
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
What a great idea.
rory albanese
No anesthesia.
joe rogan
No anesthesia.
Oh, they put you under.
rory albanese
Just stick a spike in my eye.
joe rogan
I think they put you under.
jamie vernon
Sometimes they didn't, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Sometimes they didn't.
Sometimes they just nuked your brain while you're sitting there.
They're scrambling it around.
Just imagine that they did that to people.
rory albanese
What year are they doing it that way?
jamie vernon
A lot.
joe rogan
Dude, they did it a lot.
jamie vernon
It's the 1900s.
joe rogan
Go to that photo of that kid right above where your cursor is.
Right there.
Bam.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Whoa.
They lobotomized that kid.
Look at his eyes are all swollen up from the blood.
Holy shit.
They did it to a kid.
unidentified
It's nuts, dude.
joe rogan
They did it to a kid?
rory albanese
It's like he just needed some Adderall.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
I feel like there was a place they were doing them so often that they couldn't even do as many as they needed.
There were hundreds a day.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'll look it up real quick.
joe rogan
Yeah, please do.
Oh my god.
That's insane.
Can you imagine that they thought that that was a good thing to do?
rory albanese
It's insane.
joe rogan
And they thought that was a good thing to do during the time where you can take pictures.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, these are photographs.
rory albanese
Cameras existed.
joe rogan
Yeah, cameras existed.
rory albanese
Pretty modern era.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
rory albanese
Yeah, and that was going on, and lobotomies were going on.
Like, one of the Kennedys had a lobotomy.
unidentified
What?
rory albanese
Yeah, there's a Kennedy sister who had a lobotomy.
joe rogan
For real?
rory albanese
Yeah, that shit was going on into, like...
The 50s and 60s.
Remember One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?
That's like the end of the movie.
joe rogan
Did they lobotomize him at the end of the movie or did they electric shock him?
rory albanese
Well, he was kind of done.
He was like frothing out the mouth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
I don't know if they did it with...
joe rogan
I think it was electric shock though, wasn't it?
rory albanese
Yeah, but I don't know if it was, you know, the same outcome.
joe rogan
Okay.
Look at this.
During its heyday in the 1940s and 1950s, the lobotomy was performed on some 40,000 patients in the United States and around 10,000 in Western Europe.
Holy shit!
The procedure became popular because there was no alternative and because it was seen to alleviate several social crises.
Overcrowding in psychiatric institutions and the increasing cost of caring for mentally ill patients.
So they couldn't take care of them, so they just scrambled them and fed them gruel.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Yeah, the guy was doing 20 to 25 a day, so like one every hour.
rory albanese
Unlike now when we just let them wander the streets.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
What the fuck, man?
That's crazy how many people that is.
rory albanese
Yeah, look up the Kennedy.
I think it's one of like JFK's sisters got a lobotomy.
joe rogan
Dude, I was in Fresno recently.
I was doing a gig.
I was doing a gig in Fresno.
Mary Kennedy mmm 1918 mentally impaired Um, yeah, so what I was saying is I was doing a gig in Fresno and there's this giant Population of people living on the streets out there like you go down streets.
It's just like a skid row type deal Wow, well you're like everywhere you look to the right and left is a homeless people like a home like a tendency.
Yeah very similar.
They have carts set up things laid over them.
They're living underneath them garbage everywhere.
You're like, holy shit Wow And then I found out that Louis Theroux did a documentary on it.
Is that it?
Yeah, from Fresno.
Yeah.
And then I found out that Louis Theroux did a documentary on it, and he said that Fresno is the meth capital of the world.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See if you can find that.
But it was real weird, man.
rory albanese
It is weird.
That does not look like an American city.
It was weird.
joe rogan
And you realize, like, wow, these people got fucked.
They got stuck in this terrible situation, and now they've become this thing that people pity when they drive by, lingering on the side of the road.
A city addicted to crystal meth, that's what it is.
rory albanese
Luckily, we have Christians who will come help them.
joe rogan
Yes, they'll help them.
rory albanese
We're a country full of Christians who want to help these people.
joe rogan
What did it say, 2009?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it was in 2009 that it aired, and it's probably gotten even worse since the last nine years.
rory albanese
I had no idea it was that bad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
That's insane.
joe rogan
Dude, it was weird driving around there.
Fun shows, though.
Nice people.
rory albanese
I was gonna ask you, how was the crowd?
joe rogan
Fun.
I did two shows.
Two shows there, two shows in Bakersfield.
Had a great time, man.
But the places that I don't go to normally, I'm never there.
rory albanese
I'm going back to Comedy Works in Denver soon.
It's a fucking awesome club.
Yeah, I got a couple fun gigs coming up.
donald cerrone
Did you film there?
rory albanese
No, but I showcased there.
joe rogan
Right, that's when you were there the night before that I was there.
Or the night of, right?
rory albanese
I did a show Thursday and then I did an early show on Friday before you.
That was the one where Chappelle came out.
joe rogan
That was crazy.
How fun was that?
rory albanese
That was so fun.
joe rogan
We were hanging out and I got off stage and Chappelle was just in the green room.
I was like, what are you doing, man?
He goes...
He goes, oh man, just hanging around.
I go, you want to go up?
Should I? Fuck yeah.
Hold on a second.
I ran back out and pulled the people back to their seats.
rory albanese
Yep.
I was sitting in the crowd watching.
It was awesome.
unidentified
It was amazing.
rory albanese
Sometimes he'll come in at a comedy salon and do like four hours.
So when he first got on stage, I was with my girlfriend.
I was like...
We're going to be here a while.
joe rogan
I don't think he'll do that as much.
rory albanese
He did like 30 minutes.
unidentified
Yeah.
rory albanese
Just like worked on a bunch of new stuff.
It's really fun.
It's also just cool that you let him do it.
Because a lot of people wouldn't want Chappelle coming out after they just killed the show, you know?
joe rogan
No, I love that guy.
rory albanese
He's awesome.
joe rogan
I wanted to watch, too.
rory albanese
Yeah, he was amazing.
joe rogan
I think...
rory albanese
I mean, your hour is awesome, too, man.
I still like quote stuff from your hour.
About like vegan...
joe rogan
That's my...
rory albanese
Vegan cats and all that.
unidentified
Oh, that.
rory albanese
Those are older stuff.
Yeah.
But you had some murderous stuff in an hour.
unidentified
Thanks, man.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
I can't wait to get this new one out of the way.
rory albanese
When are you doing it?
joe rogan
April.
So you said that you did one, and it was supposed to be on Showtime.
rory albanese
You were really happy with it?
Yeah, I thought it was going to go to Showtime, but then the deal kind of got funked up, and now I own it.
I don't know.
It's good.
I'm really proud of it.
It's like a really good hour.
I worked hard on it.
I wrote a lot of jokes, and I went on the road nonstop the year before.
joe rogan
Have you thought about Amazon?
rory albanese
Yeah, I've thought about a lot of those places.
My people are looking around.
They're looking at some options of places to send it.
It's just a slow process.
The process of getting people to watch it first.
When you send somebody something to watch, they're like, sure!
And then you've got to nag them.
So they're working on it.
There's a couple of people that may be interested.
At some point, I might just put it out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jamie, didn't you say that Amazon Prime, something like 50% of the households have Amazon Prime?
Didn't you say something like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think when you have Amazon Prime, you get video.
You can watch videos for free.
I think we'd have to let people know some of the resources that are available, but I feel like Amazon is starting to do comedy specials now, which is great if you're not getting one from Netflix or HBO or Comedy Central.
64% of U.S. households have an Amazon Prime.
rory albanese
That's bananas, dude.
joe rogan
We just got to figure out how to get those people to watch comedy specials.
rory albanese
I also do feel like you got on Netflix before it was a thing.
joe rogan
I got on Netflix in 2005. That was when I did my very first special.
I did on Netflix, and then we sold it to Showtime.
It was the opposite.
rory albanese
Right.
But I'm saying, the way I think of it now is, what is that...
What is that thing now?
What's the apartment that's cheap right now but won't be in 10 years?
So that's the thing I'm trying to think of.
There's got to be different ways to do it, more interesting ways to do it than just...
Putting it on iTunes and being like, it's 10 bucks, you know, or whatever.
So I'm just thinking of it that way.
I'm trying to think of it as like, it doesn't have to be, the goal of it is just for people to see me do stand-up.
So it's like, that's the goal.
So it's really more about creative ways that I'm kind of going through in my head that are like, what about this?
What about this?
What about this?
You know, and it's social media, like, is good and bad for some stuff.
And, you know, but a lot of it's about how you get it out there.
You know, and how you release it, and if somebody catches it, and it, you know, becomes a thing, you know, and all that, so it's, it's hard to, like, sort of, it's hard to sort of game the system, but you're, like, thinking that way, you know, like, what's the new...
joe rogan
Well, I think if you put it on YouTube, that's probably, if you wanted to get it to access to the most people, if that's all was your concern, that would be the most people.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because if we tweeted it, and we talked about it on the podcast, and people enjoyed it, and they found out it was free, and most people, especially if you have Apple TV, you have YouTube built in.
rory albanese
Right, and then you're just watching it.
joe rogan
Just watch it on your TV. Yeah.
I do that with a lot of shit now.
Yeah.
Smart.
I think YouTube is for sure the easiest option, because I think there's a giant percentage of people that watch YouTube videos on their phones.
I bet it's probably more than half.
rory albanese
Yep.
joe rogan
Is it, Jamie?
rory albanese
I think most people just watch it on their phones at this point.
joe rogan
A lot of people, for sure.
It's certainly a giant chunk.
Whether it's 50% or more, you're dealing with a giant chunk of people that just would have access to your comedy on their phone.
rory albanese
Yep.
joe rogan
Almost any time.
rory albanese
And then it's a matter of like, do you break it up into like four-minute sections so people can like share it or do you just put the whole hour out?
You know, there's like so many different ways to like...
joe rogan
I think you should do both.
I think you should have like the full version and put that out on your website or on your YouTube page and then put chunks.
So if people just want to watch the chunks, they can watch the chunks.
Maybe they'll watch a chunk or two and then they'll go, I got to see this whole thing.
And they watch the whole thing in its entirety and they see where the chunks fit in.
rory albanese
Yeah.
That's a good way to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, because just let people know.
People want to see good comedy.
Let people know.
And we can only crank out so much shit.
So there's a lot of people out there like, hey, yo, dude, I'm looking, fucking laugh.
What do you got?
rory albanese
What do you got?
I watched all this shit!
And I feel about it, too, is like, you know better than anybody.
Whenever you do anything, like you film something, whether you're in it behind the camera or put your name on something, You want it to be good.
And I'm always honest with myself.
I'm like, that could have been better.
But this, I was like, I'm proud of it.
I like it.
I feel really good about it.
joe rogan
Of course, that's the one you can't get out.
unidentified
Right.
rory albanese
Joke being, it's the first time I'm like, boy, this is really something I stand behind.
It's like, go fuck yourself.
joe rogan
Are you in a financial position that you have to sell it?
Or can you just put it on YouTube?
rory albanese
No, I can put it.
I mean, I bought it back.
And, you know, I can put it on YouTube and not sell it.
The goal is for people to see it.
And I... It's not like it cost me $14 million to shoot.
joe rogan
You can get YouTube ad money, too.
You can get some ad money if it's successful.
rory albanese
If people start watching it.
YouTube is actually clamped down on that now.
joe rogan
Have they?
rory albanese
Yeah, they're making it.
There's a lot of social media stuff that's sort of falling.
The sort of Wild West model.
joe rogan
Are you meaning that YouTube is clamped down on what the advertisers are?
rory albanese
Yeah, you have to have a certain amount of...
I was just reading about this.
You have to have a certain amount of...
joe rogan
This is a world we talk in and deal in all the time, so Jamie can explain to you the whole thing.
rory albanese
I was reading that only 1% now of people are on YouTube, the top 1%.
jamie vernon
It's not that hard to get plastered threshold right now.
It's just like 1,000 hours of views, which if you have 1,000 views, you'd get there within a month.
rory albanese
That's good to know.
jamie vernon
Or a couple weeks.
joe rogan
Yeah, I kind of knew where you were going with this.
rory albanese
Yeah.
Who's going to head it off at the pass?
What I'm saying, but making money on it, they're saying.
joe rogan
It's much more difficult after that PewDiePie guy.
That PewDiePie guy said a bunch of racist shit, and it turned out he had a bunch of Nazi jokes, then he called someone the N-word, and then boom, next thing you know, everybody's revenue dropped off substantially.
It's crazy.
It's very tight on how revenue gets distributed, and what's safe for advertising, and even stuff that doesn't even make a whole lot of sense.
Like, things get demonetized, we get our podcast demonetized, it doesn't make any sense.
It's like, okay, that one, what was even said that was offensive?
Like, what is it that decides...
rory albanese
Wait, your podcast?
joe rogan
All the time.
All the time.
Different episodes get demonetized.
rory albanese
That's crazy!
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And we'll talk about controversial things.
We talk about controversial things, it almost always gets demonetized.
rory albanese
That's weird.
joe rogan
You criticize YouTube, it gets demonetized.
rory albanese
Well, you know, they're strict about...
unidentified
It does.
rory albanese
Like, it's amazing how quickly, too.
Like, I'll put my...
I think I was telling you this before.
I put my best of nightly show reel from my on-camera stuff from the nightly show on YouTube.
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
And...
Because it's Comedy Central content.
It instantly gets flagged within, like...
Seven minutes, I get an email.
It's like, this can't be accepted.
So then I was like, oh, maybe it's because I labeled it, like, best of, and I put Comedy Central as a search word.
So I just took out all the search words, and I was just like, best of Rory Albanese.
I didn't say anything about what, put it online.
Ten minutes, get an email.
This video has been flagged as Viacom content.
It gets taken down.
Like, it's pretty remarkable how quickly that can happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, we do it all the time.
That's why we said we couldn't play that video earlier.
It happens every day.
Things get flagged.
Yeah.
They have algorithms.
I mean, they can just capture music and clips and stuff like that.
They can capture music from a clip from a scene in a movie that they'll find.
Like, if you're playing a scene in a movie and, like, say, Goodfellas and some...
Didn't we do that recently?
Yeah, and what was the song?
Was it Rolling Stones?
rory albanese
Layla?
jamie vernon
Come Together by The Beatles.
joe rogan
Oh, Come Together.
And they were like, fuck you, pay me.
They went straight Ray Lee on us.
rory albanese
It may have been...
That's funny.
It may have been...
If it was Come Together, it may have been A Bronx Tale.
jamie vernon
That's what it was, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, was it A Bronx Tale?
rory albanese
Yeah, that was the fight scene.
That's the scene where it's like, now you can't leave.
That's right, A Bronx Tale!
joe rogan
That's exactly what it was.
That's right.
rory albanese
Because Goodfellas has a great soundtrack, but it does not have Come Together in it.
joe rogan
Man.
rory albanese
But...
joe rogan
Right now.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's such a great scene.
He's like, I'm going to ask you gentlemen to leave, you know?
joe rogan
Dude, have you seen that Beatles Cirque du Soleil show in Vegas?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Ever seen that?
rory albanese
Nope.
joe rogan
It's called Love?
rory albanese
I've not seen it.
joe rogan
Fucking amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so, you know, like, it's so interesting as comics.
Like, most of the shows that we see are comedy.
Like, I saw Book of Mormon.
That was the last time I went to a play.
rory albanese
Yep.
joe rogan
Unless it was like for, like...
rory albanese
Did you see Hamilton?
joe rogan
One of my kids.
Look at me.
rory albanese
What do you think?
I thought you would have seen Hamilton.
You're a cultured man.
You're interested in all things.
joe rogan
I got shit to do, man.
Whatever that hour is, I got shit to do.
I literally know nothing about Hamilton.
I'm just joking.
rory albanese
It's funny because I went into it like, what's the craze about?
I'm like, this is going to be so overrated.
And then I watched, I was like, that was good.
joe rogan
I love that those art forms exist.
rory albanese
I don't love Broadway plays.
I'm not that big.
But I thought Book of Mormon, I actually saw it twice.
joe rogan
I loved that.
rory albanese
And I thought it was...
You know, as funny as something can be.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was genius.
rory albanese
Those dudes, by the way, Matt and Trey.
joe rogan
They're on another planet.
They're from somewhere else.
rory albanese
You know what movie I watched that we're talking about, like, movies that people don't talk about enough?
That's so fucking perfect.
Team America.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
rory albanese
That movie is, like, flawless.
joe rogan
It's one of the best movies ever.
For comedy?
rory albanese
Yeah.
You can't even believe what they accomplished in that movie.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen the full uncut scenes where they had sex and dropped logs on each other and pissed on each other?
rory albanese
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And the way they start the movie, I saw them in an interview and they told a story about the opening scene of the movie is a really shitty marionette and then it widens out and it's a marionette in France using a marionette.
That's the opening sequence.
So they said when they fucking screened it for the studio, that's why they did that.
It was like really shitty looking and you heard all the executives like, what the fuck did we spend all this money on, you know?
And it just reveals how there's the sexy...
joe rogan
Here's the full unedited sex version.
They did this like way over the top so they could pull stuff back.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's really funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just decided to do it this way.
unidentified
So they would have stuff to edit out.
rory albanese
Yeah, and for the DVD extras, look at that, dude.
joe rogan
This is fucking crazy.
rory albanese
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And I think, apparently, they...
It's just puppets.
rory albanese
Oh my god.
joe rogan
They're doing everything.
rory albanese
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Eating ass.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they did this so that they could have, like, well, you gotta give us some of it.
You know?
rory albanese
They went over.
joe rogan
You gotta give us a little.
They went so far over the line...
rory albanese
It's just every position.
joe rogan
Yeah, everything.
rory albanese
Look at this.
joe rogan
They went so far, so fucking crazy.
unidentified
Like he's peeing on her.
rory albanese
All over her face, her open eyes.
joe rogan
And then she drops a log on.
Oh my god, look at this.
rory albanese
And then they just keep going.
joe rogan
Oh my God, it's so stupid.
rory albanese
Oh my God, it's so funny.
joe rogan
I mean, it just goes on forever.
rory albanese
Yeah.
unidentified
But they did that so that they would have room for negotiation.
joe rogan
That's how they worked.
rory albanese
Yeah, those guys are just geniuses, man.
And that movie, like the whole concept of they need an actor.
joe rogan
Yes.
rory albanese
How important actors are.
joe rogan
And how bad is acting?
rory albanese
Come on, Gary, you're an actor.
joe rogan
With his fucking shitty makeup on.
unidentified
Yeah, and it's like, durka durka, durka durka.
rory albanese
And it's the Star Wars cantina scene.
They're like, we're gonna transmorgify you or transmorph you.
And then, like, all that stuff happens to his face.
It's like 20 minutes of, like, they make it like its face off, and then they just glued some fucking hair to his face.
It's so funny.
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
rory albanese
They paint him a little brown.
Durka.
Come on, Gary.
Act your way in.
We need a Top Gun actor!
That's what he says.
He goes, you're a Top Gun actor.
joe rogan
It's too bad this took so long to make, because he doesn't want to make another one.
rory albanese
They almost broke them, dude.
Like, it just fucking...
joe rogan
I can only imagine.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much time it must take?
This is so painstaking.
rory albanese
Painstaking.
joe rogan
I mean, are they moving each piece as it's happening, and then filming it and doing it over and over and over again?
rory albanese
Oh, they're doing multiple camera angles, multiple...
They shot it like a movie.
That's why it's so good.
joe rogan
I need to watch it again.
I'm forgetting this scene.
rory albanese
Then it's basically the Star Wars cantina when he walks in.
It's really funny.
But it is a movie that you can come home at 2 in the morning and just be like, oh, I want to kill an hour, smoke some weed, and just throw it on.
Any scene, it's stopped at.
joe rogan
Don't forget about the fucking South Park movie.
rory albanese
Yes, you're right.
joe rogan
The South Park movie where...
rory albanese
I don't know if that will hold up as much.
joe rogan
...is getting gay with the devil.
rory albanese
With the devil, yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that?
rory albanese
I wonder if that will hold up.
joe rogan
The devil pulls his dick out and his dick...
Fuck yeah, it'll hold up.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
rory albanese
Yeah, I haven't watched that in a long time.
joe rogan
I guarantee that'll hold up.
rory albanese
South Park is still really funny.
joe rogan
It's still hilarious.
unidentified
Yep.
rory albanese
It's really funny.
joe rogan
I mean, when it comes to overall content, it's one of the funniest shows, if not the funniest of all time.
rory albanese
Dude, they turn stuff around.
joe rogan
It's like Symptoms, Them...
rory albanese
Family Guy is the other one people love, but they fucking rip on the Family Guy in Southport.
Do you remember the one where they went into the writers room with the Family Guy and it was two manatees in a tank?
And if they drop a ball, you know, like drop a ball in a thing, and then it's just a joke comes out.
joe rogan
So mean.
rory albanese
And it's like old TV show reference, you know?
joe rogan
So mean.
That's hilarious.
rory albanese
Yeah, they just broke his formula down.
Yeah, it's funny, though.
joe rogan
It's fucking hilarious.
rory albanese
I think Seth MacFarlane is funny.
Like, I thought those TED movies were really funny.
joe rogan
I didn't see them.
rory albanese
Yeah.
I still haven't seen the TED movies.
joe rogan
I heard they're hilarious.
rory albanese
Yeah, they're not like flawless movies, but they're funny.
There's a couple of scenes in them that are so funny that the whole movie goes up like 10 points.
There's a few scenes in there.
There's a scene where Ted's telling him about the weed he bought.
I forget the exact dialogue, but he's like, yeah, it's called like...
He's like I got some weed it's called like kill me now please you know and he's like why'd you get that he's like well the only other options were please make it stop make it stop like he's naming the weeds and they're all like this like paranoia fueled weed it's really funny you know sort of like maybe the the the jizz and the hair scene and something about Mary yeah it was so funny it took the whole movie yeah and then it's like you remember that yeah Because there's other stuff that's really funny in that movie that gets lost.
Like Chris Elliott having the best wife ever is really funny, but he's still in love with Mary.
That's just like a joke that kind of...
She's like, I made cookies.
You want a blowjob?
And he's like still in love with another woman.
That's how amazing Mary is.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
There's just too many goddamn movies.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying about they're constantly making movies, but the movies don't go away.
I heard this Annihilation movie is supposed to be amazing.
rory albanese
Is it?
joe rogan
I keep hearing good things.
rory albanese
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
I haven't heard shit from anybody I know, though.
rory albanese
I haven't seen Black Panther yet, either.
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
I haven't seen that, either.
I haven't been to movies in a while.
rory albanese
I very rarely go out to the movies.
joe rogan
Annihilation is by the Ex Machina guy, though.
rory albanese
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
rory albanese
That movie's fantastic.
joe rogan
That's one of my all-time...
If I had 20 all-time greats, that's in there.
rory albanese
It is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That movie's in there.
Especially for me, because I'm really obsessed with the idea of artificial intelligence and where it can go.
And to see it in a form like that, I'm like, I'm buying this.
I'm not necessarily buying this one-man operation.
This one dude is a super genius.
He's programming everything and doing...
Eh.
I think it'd probably be a little bigger than that.
Sure.
Especially the initial launch.
You're going to have teams and teams of people.
rory albanese
But he's like the Elon Musk of that.
He's like the head of that idea.
I get it.
joe rogan
I'm willing to go in.
I'm willing to go in.
rory albanese
You can suspend your disbelief enough on it.
joe rogan
That was it.
It was like the only part of the movie that I got to go, okay, I just got to assume this guy's the ultimate uber-super genius.
And it seems like we're looking at something in the future anyway.
It seems like this is not current time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It seemed like it was about 30 or 40 years in the future.
rory albanese
It had that Black Mirror vibe to it.
It's realistic, but it's a little bit in the future.
I find that with movies what's so funny is what you're willing to suspend your disbelief about.
I used to do a bit about this.
You'll go see Spider-Man.
You know what I mean?
It's about a fucking dude who gets bit by a spider and then...
Then there's a scene where someone makes a cell phone call in a basement and gets reception.
I'm like, yeah, this is fucking unrealistic.
You know, like the stupidest things.
It'll be like a white cab driver in New York.
I'm like, come on!
joe rogan
With a cigar out of the corner of his mouth and a schoolboy hat.
rory albanese
They did that in that Kevin Spacey Superman movie.
The one that came and went very quickly.
Kevin Spacey was Lex Luthor and that other dude was Superman.
joe rogan
Kevin Spacey was Lex Luthor?
rory albanese
They released the Superman movie.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
rory albanese
And Amy Adams, I think.
joe rogan
Who was Superman?
Who's the Superman?
rory albanese
Like...
joe rogan
Some dude?
rory albanese
Some dude.
And then, like, it was like, he's Superman, and then it was like, he's not.
Anyway, there he is.
joe rogan
That's the dude?
rory albanese
Yeah, his name's like...
joe rogan
He looks like he'd be Superman.
Brandon?
Hi, Brandon.
rory albanese
Yeah, Brandon something.
Brandon, that dude who was Superman.
joe rogan
And Kevin Spacey was Lex Luthor?
rory albanese
He's the George Lazenby of Superman.
joe rogan
Why did I not remember this at all?
rory albanese
Well, there's a scene...
joe rogan
Look at this, Kevin Spacey with his head shaved.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's so okay.
joe rogan
Actually, let's go with his head shaved.
rory albanese
It's...
It's a bad movie, but there's a scene in that movie where Superman flies over the Brooklyn Bridge and a fat white guy with a cigar and a newsboy hat goes, what the heck?
unidentified
And I was like, this is the worst movie I've ever seen.
rory albanese
Literally, that happens in this movie.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
rory albanese
He says, what the heck was that?
That guy hasn't driven a cab in 40 years.
joe rogan
He was in Batman vs.
Superman too?
Kevin Spacey?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
They just showed that clip.
What was that image that you were just looking at with him in long hair?
Five new stills from Batman vs.
Superman released.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Was he in that movie?
I didn't see that movie and I assume you didn't either.
unidentified
I don't recall.
joe rogan
Because I respect you.
rory albanese
Yeah, I watched it on iTunes.
joe rogan
Batman vs.
Superman?
How bad was it?
rory albanese
It's pretty bad.
unidentified
It can't be good.
rory albanese
The longer version of it, there's Wonder Woman in it, she's alright, but it's really long and they redo the whole...
Fucking Batman as a kid in the bats, and he falls in the bat thing.
I'm like, how many fucking times have we seen this kid fall in a bat cave?
Like, they have to retell me how he became Batman, and the whole thing was his parents get shot, and it's a flashback.
I'm like, remember, like...
You know, Dance with the Devil in the Pale Moonlight or whatever.
Like, that shit was the Nicholson one, and then they did the one with Christian Bale, the origin story of Batman.
jamie vernon
He's Lex Luthor.
rory albanese
You know.
jamie vernon
Jesse Eisenberg.
rory albanese
Right, Eisenberg is Lex Luthor.
joe rogan
He's the new Lex Luthor?
rory albanese
Yeah.
jamie vernon
He was in Batman vs.
Superman.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
rory albanese
Yeah, in the new Batman universe, or the Superman universe, I guess.
And I heard Justice League is just as bad.
joe rogan
Really?
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why are you breaking my heart, bro?
rory albanese
I don't know.
DC can't do it.
joe rogan
What is out now, though?
Isn't there some sort of superhero movie out now?
Besides Black Panther?
Is there something coming out now?
jamie vernon
The new...
joe rogan
Avengers?
jamie vernon
Yeah, the big infinity.
When's that?
joe rogan
When's that coming?
jamie vernon
This summer.
joe rogan
As long as you let the Hulk freak out.
jamie vernon
That's what they've been building up for the whole, all these five years of movies since The Last Avengers have been building to this big story.
joe rogan
They gotta get rid of that dude with the bow and arrow.
Stop!
That's all you got is a bow and arrow.
rory albanese
Jeremy Renner?
joe rogan
I love that guy, but you gotta give him a better superpower.
You can't have just a regular dude with a shitty recurve, shooting slow-ass arrows.
rory albanese
Scarlett Johansson's just like a girl who was trained by Russians to kick ass.
I'm willing to buy it.
joe rogan
She's hot.
Let's keep her on board.
This guy's ridiculous, though.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
Let me see your form, first of all.
Let me see what he looks like when he pulls back his bow.
Do you think he does it right?
rory albanese
Yeah, probably.
joe rogan
Nope.
rory albanese
Nope.
joe rogan
Let's get three arrows.
Get the fuck out of here, bitch.
Can't shoot three arrows at the same time.
They'll all be slow as shit.
He's got some mystical bow.
Doesn't make sense.
It's too much power.
So the power must all be in the projectiles.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's like a tech bow, you know?
It's so stupid.
It's all tech.
joe rogan
The whole thing is stupid because he's got like these missile tips on the end of this slow bullshit-ass bow.
That's a slow-ass bow.
rory albanese
It's a slow-ass bow.
jamie vernon
It is!
joe rogan
Huh?
rory albanese
I love it.
joe rogan
No, he's on the right side because he's shooting...
Where is his thing?
jamie vernon
It's on the...
He's pulling back with his left hand and it's on the right.
joe rogan
But some people do do that.
rory albanese
They do?
joe rogan
Believe it or not.
Yeah.
If you learn it that way, you can do it that way.
rory albanese
That seems weird.
joe rogan
It does, but on a compound bow, you would definitely have it on the other side, but I've seen people do it that way.
The thing is with a riser, like one of these bow risers, a recurve bow riser, it's kind of a different thing because your arrow is making contact with the riser as well.
There's like way less accuracy with one of those things, especially that traditional kind of a setup the way he has.
Like if you look at Archers in the Olympics, they have a bunch of different classes that they compete in.
And when you have an arrow that has to brush up against the side of your bow like that, like those traditional old ones, those are the hardest to really develop real accuracy with.
It requires a lot of feel, man.
You've got to really practice with that thing and know that you're pulling the bow back exactly the same distance every time.
Because if you pull it back an inch more, it'll have a bunch more feet per second power.
It'll go higher or lower if you don't pull it back far enough.
Yeah, he seems to be doing that in every picture.
I'm sure they trained him, and I'm sure some people do do it that way.
And it looks like in some of these things, he's shooting left-handed.
Okay.
Well, then it's the right way.
So he's shooting left-handed.
That's why it's on the other side.
But I felt like on the other side it was his right arm.
Nope, it's his left arm.
Okay.
Duh.
That's why.
How did I not notice that?
Yeah, he's got his left arm up.
So he's drawing back the bow with his left arm.
That's why it's on the other side.
But I have seen people, even people who are right-handed, on a traditional bow.
But maybe it was like one of those stick bows.
Not like a traditional bow like a...
rory albanese
But if you were pulling back with your right arm, it would still be on the outside of the bow, right?
joe rogan
If you were doing it with your right arm, a compound bow, it's on the other side.
So if I'm holding it with my left side, the arrow's going to be on the left side.
But I think on some traditional bows, and I'm talking out of my ass a little bit because I don't know too much about traditional bows, but I think there are some guys who put the arrow on the other side.
And I think that was actually a part of that Lars Anderson's video.
Isn't that the guy's name?
The guy was the crazy arrow expert who shoots all those arrows at the same time.
I think that was one of the things that he was saying was to have it on this side.
Yes, that's exactly what it was.
He was saying to have it on that side because it makes it easier to put onto the string if he's grabbing the arrow and just throwing it on the string rather than going over the top to the other side.
Yeah, that's what it was.
Look at all these guys.
They have it on the left-hand side.
All these guys have it on the left-hand side.
jamie vernon
So he's doing opposite.
Pull back with the right and going on the left.
joe rogan
Yes.
jamie vernon
Gotcha.
joe rogan
So he's got it.
That's how he has it.
That's how most people have it.
And this is like...
What he's got in his hands right here, that was an Olympic target bow.
So what he's doing is...
Instead of going all the way around to the left, he's explaining how much wasted motion is in that.
rory albanese
Gotcha.
joe rogan
And so instead...
He's saying you go to the same side, and he shows all these images of people with arrows to the same side.
They all have it on the same side.
And it makes sense.
That would be so much easier and quicker to do it that way.
Totally makes sense.
rory albanese
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Completely makes sense.
I think this for accuracy...
I would have to talk to my friend John Dudley about this.
He's a master archery instructor.
I bet there's something to do with torque.
But again, that's another thing, like if you just shoot with the same bow, the same weight arrows, over and over and over again with that, it's sort of like, you know how to throw a rock?
Or a baseball, perfect example.
If you have a baseball and there's a tree that's like 30 feet away, 40 feet away, you know how far or how hard you have to throw the ball to hit that tree.
You know, you can actually get pretty close to a spot in that tree, just throwing it.
Well, it's because you've done it a bunch of times.
If you've played catch with a bunch of people, you kind of know what to do with a baseball.
It's the same thing with a bow and arrow.
Especially that kind, that style where you don't have a sight that you're looking through.
You're just pulling back and you kind of know where the arrow's going to go.
You just kind of know because you do it a lot.
rory albanese
There's a feel.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you have to do it every time.
You have to bring it back exactly the same spot on your face every time, because if you go here, it's going to go different, it's going to go further, or if you go in front of your face, you don't pull it back all the way, it's going to go shorter.
rory albanese
Right, but in some cases you want to be doing that, so you just have to know...
joe rogan
No, you never want to be having it with a different form.
You always want to pull it back to the exact same spot.
You want to aim at different positions.
rory albanese
So in other words, though, then the range of the bow is the same?
joe rogan
Every time.
rory albanese
Every time.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the only way you're ever going to understand where it's going to go.
rory albanese
Oh, so it's not like you can go if you really want to go deep.
joe rogan
Well, you can lift it up, but you're just aiming at a different spot.
rory albanese
But you always want to pull it back further.
joe rogan
No.
You always want to pull it back to the exact same spot.
Well, the compound bow is actually called the wall.
It's a place where you can't pull it back any further.
It just locks in place when the arrow is fully drawn.
And then you just release it.
rory albanese
The release is hard.
That's the thing, I think, to not have it smack against your arm.
joe rogan
It's just a form issue.
Once you learn how to do it with the right form...
rory albanese
To let go fast.
joe rogan
No, it's where you're standing.
If you're standing like this, totally sideways, the string is going to hit your arm.
You're supposed to open up more.
So you're drawing back like this.
rory albanese
Gotcha.
joe rogan
So there's space.
So the arrow...
Very rarely does your forearm get hit by a string.
It's super rare with someone who fires a bow a lot.
rory albanese
Knows how to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but like those old-timey dudes, I mean, they're just firing arrows in the middle of fucking war and shit, and that's why they had those big bands across their forearm to protect themselves from the strings.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they had like crazy powerful bows that you gotta be a beast to pull back.
Like the Mongols, their bow was 160 pounds to pull back.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, those people must have been so powerful, man.
rory albanese
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then just shooting these steel-tipped wooden arrows into people's bodies.
rory albanese
But with like a compound bow like the one you use...
You're pulling back...
joe rogan
84 pounds.
rory albanese
84 pounds.
But it feels like, what, like 10?
joe rogan
No, it feels like 84 pounds until about right here.
And the cams roll over.
You know, they have these mechanical...
These cams give you, like, this mechanical advantage.
And as the cams pull over, boom...
Then it gives you, like, a big let-off.
Then the let-off is probably somewhere around...
I'd have to find out.
It can be as high as, like, 85% to 90% let-off, though.
rory albanese
Wow.
joe rogan
So you're only holding, like...
rory albanese
It's a pulley system, basically.
At some point, like, just the pulley does the work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then it's about trying to achieve a surprise shot.
Then everything, once you're at full draw and fully locked in and you have proper form and you're aiming at the target, then it's about...
You're using a release aid with a compound bow.
It's not like you're letting go with your fingers like you would with a traditional bow.
You have like a handle in your hand or on your wrist and you get to a certain point and then you lock on it and then you just start pulling back with your finger touching the trigger.
So you don't activate the trigger by pulling your finger.
You put your finger on the trigger and you activate it with your back.
rory albanese
Gotcha.
joe rogan
So that you can't flinch.
You can't, like, go...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't freak it.
rory albanese
It's like you keep pulling and then it automatically releases the trigger.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's a thing that we have called impact bracing.
Like, we brace for impact.
That's why if you see somebody, like, if they have a round in their gun and it's a blank...
They go to hit it, or it's a dummy round where it doesn't go off, but you see them go like that as they pull the trigger, they have a bad trigger pull.
And they have to, one of the things they do in training, like if you ever watch Tim Kennedy, this guy fought in the UFC, has a bunch of training video footage, he's a Navy SEAL, ranger, psychopath, awesome dude.
rory albanese
My cousin actually is like a huge, he's like a competitive shooter, and he has like a crazy Instagram following, and he's like, You know, you can like quick draw and like all that stuff.
I've watched tons of his stuff and he's just like, he's a beast, you know?
And he does like, you know, he does...
joe rogan
Those drills.
rory albanese
The drills.
He does stuff where you're like carrying a body and then like, you know, like obstacle courses with guns and all that stuff.
It's pretty amazing.
joe rogan
Google whether...
What was Kennedy's...
I know he's a ranger.
I'm pretty sure.
Find out what else he did.
But he's got a bunch of videos of him shooting on the range.
And he's actually active military again, which is crazy.
Quit the UFC, went back into the military.
When he's pulling, he's like, and then he goes, click, because he's got a dummy around.
And he's like, oh, there's no movement.
There's no movement.
And that's what he wants to train for.
He wants to train for that perfect ability to execute, especially in a combat situation.
unidentified
Of course.
rory albanese
Yeah, like the other things they have are like those...
You know, that movie thing where you're like, I guess you have that with a bow, but you can do it with guns.
joe rogan
Simulated scenarios.
rory albanese
Yeah, and you're like in a house, and a dude's got like a gun to a lady's head.
joe rogan
How do they do that?
Do they have like a wall that they shoot against?
rory albanese
I think they have a wall they shoot against, and they just put like new paper up.
joe rogan
A projection?
Oh, okay.
rory albanese
So it's like a target paper, I think, is how it's done.
joe rogan
What's this, Jamie?
Tim Kennedy's thing?
Just go to his...
Does the Wikipedia page tell you what his credentials are?
Go to his wiki.
Go to all.
Son of a bitch.
What are you doing?
Showing me videos?
He's hunting for Hitler right now.
unidentified
Is he?
joe rogan
Tim Kennedy is.
He's on that show, Hunting for Hitler.
rory albanese
What is that?
What are they looking for?
joe rogan
There's a conspiracy theory that Hitler left and moved to South America.
Let me see what it says there, Jamie.
Special Forces.
rory albanese
He'd be dead by now.
joe rogan
Isn't it like surmised on the side there?
What does it say?
There it goes.
Sergeant First Class, Special Forces, Texas Army National Guard.
Jesus Christ.
rory albanese
Both Iraq and Afghanistan.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's an animal.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
So Seven Special Forces Group.
He's a special dude.
And he's a very inspirational guy.
He watches YouTube.
He's every day doing rows and fucking crazy workouts.
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
He's getting after it.
And he's like, oof.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
You realize how lazy you are with so many people now.
You've never been exposed.
rory albanese
Well, I realize that with you too, man.
I watch your shit.
I'm like, God.
joe rogan
Well, I realize it from them.
That's why I do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what's made me so fucking psychopathic.
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
That and my goddamn dog.
My dog loves, like, he was always scared to get in the car.
Now he jumps into the car.
Because he knows if we get in the car, it means we're going to go run.
rory albanese
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
So we drive down to the trail, and he gets out.
He's like, Fuck yeah!
unidentified
He loves it.
joe rogan
And he just takes off.
So I have to keep up with him.
So I'm getting this great workout at least three days a week.
rory albanese
So how far are you running?
joe rogan
Two miles.
rory albanese
But off-road running, like trail running?
joe rogan
It's ridiculous shit.
rory albanese
It's hard.
joe rogan
It's hard, yeah.
Today I did it with a different pair of shoes.
Most of the time I do it with those five-finger barefoot shoes.
unidentified
You do?
rory albanese
You like running those?
Did you read that guy's book, that barefoot running book?
joe rogan
No, I did not, but I heard about it and that was all I needed to know.
I'm one of those people.
I don't Don't even bother researching it.
rory albanese
The way he lands on his ball of your foot, right?
joe rogan
Well, I got it from Mark Sisson.
Mark Sisson, who's the author of The Primal Blueprint.
Really interesting guy.
He's basically said that shoes are like a cast, and that the problem with those five-finger shoes is they had said a bunch of things that's going to prevent injuries, and they actually had a class-action lawsuit against them because a bunch of people got hurt.
It'll prevent injuries eventually, but if you go too hard initially, your feet are not in condition.
rory albanese
Right.
joe rogan
Dude, I was stunned how weak my feet are when I started doing, and I've done martial arts like most of my life, so I've always been doing things barefoot, but I had bitch-ass feet, and I didn't realize it, I didn't realize it until...
rory albanese
Pussy feet, they call that.
joe rogan
I started doing yoga.
Yoga taught me how weak my feet were.
Like I would be in these positions and my feet would give out before anything.
rory albanese
That's interesting.
Like cramp up?
joe rogan
Yeah, cramp up.
And also, I've basically had flat feet my whole life.
Over the last year and a half of running with these barefoot shoes on, now I have an arch.
rory albanese
Wow!
joe rogan
Dude, I didn't have an arch.
rory albanese
You like molded your foot into an arched foot.
joe rogan
I think my foot was just weak.
I think the whole thing was, the whole structure was weak.
And my legs were strong, because my legs are used to lifting things, but they're always used to doing it with shoes on.
rory albanese
Right.
joe rogan
Now that I do all that hill running, like, basically, the only thing that sucks is, like, sharp rocks.
Like, when you have to run over, like, little rocks.
rory albanese
Because you feel it.
Yeah, they pierce it.
joe rogan
They're going right in your fucking foot.
rory albanese
But isn't the concept of that, too, is like you're running on the balls of your feet, but you're also sort of like falling forward, like you're using the momentum of gravity to carry you between each, so you're not doing as much impact.
joe rogan
Well, you change your stance if you're running forward on the ball of your feet.
Because if you're running backwards on the heels, you're leaning back more.
As you're going forward, you just have to change your gait, and you change it into a leaning forward gait.
But it seems so much more natural.
rory albanese
Yeah, it took a while to get it down, though, right?
joe rogan
It's fucking hard, yeah.
Yeah.
Especially, it just feels weird.
rory albanese
Because it's not the way you normally run.
I tried doing it, because that guy came on The Daily Show years ago and talked about it, and I tried doing it.
But after a while, you just start going, I don't know.
It's like changing your form.
You're changing your form on something you're just so used to doing.
It's hard to do that.
joe rogan
Right, but it's the only way to do it.
It really is the only way to run.
Those other ways, the way that they develop for that thick-heeled running shoe way where you're landing on heel first, it's terrible for your knees.
Your knees aren't mechanically designed that way.
And they think that's one of the reasons why a lot of people who wear those kind of shoes develop knee problems, whereas a lot of the people in that book, which are running completely on the ball of their foot, a lot of them are wearing soles that they made out of tires, like strapped into some sort of a sandal.
rory albanese
Yeah, and they're running like...
Those guys run hundreds of miles in the mountains.
It's pretty crazy.
joe rogan
You develop a toughness on your feet, for sure.
Mine aren't there at all.
I'm a bitch.
On the way down, especially, because I'm going down deep into this canyon and I'm running back up and out.
There's some ups at the end of it, too.
It's almost like a bowl.
But when I get to the sharp spots on the way down, it's hard because you feel like, ah!
rory albanese
And you know it's coming, too.
joe rogan
But I feel like if I just keep doing it, eventually my feet will toughen up.
But for sure, they've gotten stronger.
They've gotten way stronger.
They feel different.
It sounds so stupid.
I'm listening to myself.
I know it sounds stupid.
But when I'm walking around, my feet feel different.
Like they're feeling the ground more.
rory albanese
Right.
joe rogan
Like they used to be just like, well, here's my feet.
rory albanese
You've like activated muscles in them that you hadn't activated.
joe rogan
Exactly.
rory albanese
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's like any other body part, you know.
joe rogan
Which we don't think about it, though.
When do you ever think about strengthening your feet?
rory albanese
Never.
But it's like any time you strengthen like a secondary muscle or something, you're like, oh, that's why my posture was so bad, you know?
It was like, you know, whatever.
It's like there's always some, you know, some other thing to work on.
joe rogan
It just makes me think, too, for like just physical movement, like how often do you need the power of your feet?
Like how often are you pushing off of something or lifting something up and using your feet?
It's kind of amazing that we never take into consideration the actual strength of our feet.
rory albanese
Yeah.
I worked out with this guy for a little while and he showed me these rubber balls that you can roll your feet on to engage the muscles.
There were parts where I would hit a part of my foot Pain was like because it was just like a sore muscle from walking you know like and it's just like massaging it out but like parts of your body that you're just not like engaging and you just roll your foot on it and then you find the places that need to be like rolled out and Fuck man like it hurts like you're going between each toe and like you know that area here and it's like it's fucking painful because your feet are Just,
you know, doing what they're doing all day and you're not really paying attention to them.
unidentified
Not at all.
joe rogan
You just put them in the shoes and fuck it.
Lace them up and don't think about them.
You only think about them when they're hurt.
God damn it, I got an ingrown toenail and then you get pissed off.
Fucking stupid feet.
rory albanese
Fucking feet.
Always getting in my way.
joe rogan
People, they're carrying you around all day.
You don't give a shit.
Fuck you.
rory albanese
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, just apparently, according to Sisson, and it really makes sense, that your foot, the strength of your foot just atrophies if you just stuff it into a shoe because it has this hard surface where you're not really feeling the ground.
There's all this cushioning so your foot doesn't...
It's not...
Like, giving in in the natural way of ball of the foot first, resist with the center of the foot and the arch, and then eventually drop down to the heel.
It's not doing that.
It's just getting this cushiony, cushiony slop.
It's a sloppy-ass foot.
It's inside.
rory albanese
It's barely working.
It's weird.
joe rogan
It's weird when you think about it that way.
You know, because that's not how your foot was designed.
Your foot was designed for a very specific method of moving around, and we just changed that.
We're like, nah, fuck you, nature.
rory albanese
Well, I get like that sometimes with my hands.
Like, a lot of times I'll do stuff.
And I'm like, I'm not going to put work gloves on for this or whatever, because there's a party that's like, yeah, maybe I'll get a splinter, but aren't you supposed to get some splinter?
Aren't you supposed to have the ability to just use your hands the way they came?
For some things, for sure.
It's also like a dexterity thing.
It's good to be able to...
Get in somewhere and screw a nut on something.
You know, that kind of stuff where it's like there's like a tactile.
And I feel like if you don't do that kind of stuff with your hands, they get kind of the same thing.
Like you lose your dexterity and you lose your ability to touch something that's rough and not go like, ow!
Right.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen the hands of a really good carpenter?
rory albanese
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, those guys are just grabbing shit all the time.
rory albanese
His hands are like fucking...
joe rogan
Everything is just...
unidentified
Always using the hands.
rory albanese
And the speed at which they can pop up a thing and pop a nail in.
I actually got my uncle for Christmas this year a magnetic wristband that you can put all your screws and stuff on.
You don't have to keep them in your mouth.
He just keeps sending me photos of him building stuff with this wristband full of screws and nails.
And he's like, I love these things.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's so funny.
People who actually...
Our actively fixing things and doing things like...
joe rogan
Dude, I think we did like three and a half hours.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
What time is it?
Is it 4.15?
rory albanese
Yep.
joe rogan
This is a ridiculously long podcast.
unidentified
Wow.
rory albanese
Shit, it is 4.15.
joe rogan
So easy to do a podcast with you, Rory.
rory albanese
I do, and I love talking to you, man.
unidentified
So much fun, man.
joe rogan
So fun.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
So keep us posted on when your video is going to release, and we'd be happy to promote it.
rory albanese
If you would, that'd be huge for me, man.
joe rogan
I'll put it on Twitter and Instagram.
We'll talk about it on the podcast.
rory albanese
Dude, that'd be huge for me.
joe rogan
Let everybody know.
What's the name of it?
So you look forward to it.
rory albanese
I haven't named it yet.
I'm thinking about calling it Free Hour.
joe rogan
That's a great name!
rory albanese
Can I plug a couple kicks?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
rory albanese
I'm going to be in Rhode Island the weekend of the 9th of March at Comedy Connection in Rhode Island, Providence, Rhode Island.
joe rogan
That's the bank vault joint.
rory albanese
Yeah, it's a really good club.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a great club.
rory albanese
And then I'm at their other club, Cabot Comedy, that weekend in Massachusetts, Chicopee Mass on Sunday.
And then I'm at Ho-Chunk Casino in Wisconsin on the 21st.
And then the 29th through the 31st of March, I'm at Comedy Works Denver.
unidentified
The best.
rory albanese
The fucking best club ever.
One of them.
Co-host New York in April, if anyone knows where that is.
joe rogan
Glorious.
And website?
rory albanese
RoryAlbanese.com.
Twitter.
RoryAlbanese and everything.
unidentified
Instagram.
rory albanese
I just got on Vero, by the way.
joe rogan
I just got on Vero, too, but I heard we're not supposed to.
Jamie says we might not be supposed to.
rory albanese
Really?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I can't keep up.
I don't have the fucking energy.
I'll see you, fuckers.
unidentified
Bye.
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