Tom DeLonge traces his UFO obsession to seventh grade, sparked by a book linking Loch Ness Monster sightings to extraterrestrial phenomena, and founded To The Stars Academy to explore "advanced aerial threats" through science fiction, documentaries, and public education. After receiving an unsolicited email leading to classified meetings—including NASA Ames and a GS-15 with Pentagon-level clearances—he details zero-gravity-manufactured metal from a 1948 crash, space-time-folding tech like the TR-3B, and Roswell wreckage allegedly containing Greek writing. Collaborating with top intelligence officials (SES-3, Skunk Works ex-heads) and aerospace firms, his company aims to revolutionize propulsion via electrogravitic systems, potentially slashing satellite launch costs from $50K to $5K per pound while unlocking overunity energy. DeLonge dismisses skepticism, hints at human genetic upgrades tied to 100-million-year-old footprints, and confirms his belief that figures like Oprah may be extraterrestrial, teasing upcoming public demonstrations of alien-derived tech. [Automatically generated summary]
At my house, I have a framed poster that's the cover of the Roswell Daily News that shows the day after the Roswell crash where it says that the Air Force came and recovered the wreckage.
I've been obsessed with this shit since I was a little kid.
Yeah, and they also time travel, which is different than what people think in like a movie where they sit in a machine and you're in the 1930s and you've got to go save humanity.
When you use the technology, there's a time difference between...
What they're doing inside of an artificially created bubble of gravity of sorts and then what's on the outside.
So if you're on the inside of one of those machines, everything would be skewed more black and white.
There would be like a redshift and everybody would look frozen.
So you literally could fly around and grab a Coke out of someone's hand and put it in someone else's hand.
He's the creator of the CIA Psychic Spy Program, but he also has done really exotic, advanced, forefront propulsion work for the past decades and decades, actually.
I mean, he's deep into the quantum this and that.
So he's the one that actually told me about the redshift.
Not only exists, we've figured out how to play with it, but I'm not going to really get into that here.
That is what we're doing at my company, though.
That is the announcement.
So Steve Justice was head of advanced programs at the Skunk Works, and the Skunk Works are who built, you know, The famous secret bases you hear about, Skunk Works did, you know, the U-2 spy plane, the SR-71 Blackbird, the F-117 Stealth Fighter.
That story might be a better way to start because a lot of people don't know this part of the story and I think you're going to find it pretty fucking funny.
Odd as well.
Okay, so we'll back up a couple years.
I started the band Blink, and Blink went places.
But we always had a weird band relationship, like most bands.
And we also thought that we would never be big, so we started companies on the side.
And I had a company that incubated a lot of small startups, like software and apparel and hardcore skate surf companies and stuff like that.
Well, I learned a lot from that, and I pulled out an entertainment startup called To The Stars, and I knew I was going to be doing kind of like science fiction franchised stories, just like Disney, but science fiction for adults.
And what that means is, you know, I make a story, I title it, I brand it, and I put out the book, and I put out the merchandise, and I go make a movie, you know?
And it's a vertically integrated kind of model.
Well, one of the stories I knew I wanted to put out was Secret Machines, which was kind of a historical fiction, but based on real events about the UFO phenomenon.
But I also knew that I knew shit That most people don't know.
Because I've studied it for so long, and I happened to put some pieces together that most people don't put together.
So before I came out with that book, and before I came out with the plan to take that, make major motion pictures and all that kind of stuff, I knew I needed to ask permission.
So I flew I flew around to places.
I can't say who they were, but they listened to my pitch.
And then I got an email out of nowhere that says, meet us next to the Pentagon at this day and time.
So that started me out near D.C. taking some other high-level meetings.
And there was somebody at a very high level that...
That closed the door, looked me in the eye and says, okay, I'm going to introduce you to somebody.
And that person comes to San Diego, puts me on the phone with a general.
And the general is listening to my little stump speech about what I want to do with this franchise.
Because I definitely didn't want to, you know, I wasn't looking to like force disclosure and I wasn't looking to be rogue and break secrets.
I was like, look, I know what's going on here.
And you guys are doing a kick-ass job, and I would have done the exact same thing should I have been the guy at the top that had to make some really hardcore decisions 70 years ago.
So I want to support you.
I think people are cynical because there's a vacuum.
You guys can't say what you're doing.
All these people are just coming up with a bunch of bullshit to say, oh, you know, they don't want us to know or we can't handle it or it's all about oil and money and all this weird shit.
Essentially, it's the book, Secret Machines, where you have a lot of private finance, you have some world bankers, and you have a lot of people internationally working together To figure out a plan of how to push back against something that's been coming here for a very long time, but using off-the-books finances and using mechanisms that we're not totally aware exist.
And what people have to realize is, you know, the UFO phenomenon isn't a phenomenon.
The universe is fucking gigantic and there's life everywhere.
Every fucking where.
And there's a lot of life that's way more advanced than we are.
And just like Voyager left our solar system, a little dinky satellite from the 70s, and just like my company is going to be building, you know, this electromagnetic craft that really can do the same thing to time that I've been telling you about, other civilizations have that too, which means you can traverse those distances of space.
And what you have to think about is what happened when we first discovered that and what did we do about it?
And there's no, you know, you got to look at 47 in a very peculiar way.
Ninety days after the Roswell event, the CIA was created.
The Air Force was separated from the Army.
The National Security Act was created.
And all those things are mechanisms to start learning more and to start getting private industry off the ground.
These regular dudes without access to communication like you have, how have they managed to disseminate this information and sort of confuse everybody?
They get access to what the civilians are learning, how information transfers from one group to another, and then they start deflecting all their knowledge and putting in leaks and this and that and getting them off the main track, not because of disdain for citizens and not because Of any other reason than picture ISIS. We don't know what ISIS is.
They got a nuclear bomb and we caught a guy trying to sneak in this bomb.
Are they going to stop and come sit on your couch and tell you all about it?
No.
And if you're like on the radio and there's all these people going, oh my God, we're going to die, a bomb, a bomb, a bomb.
They'll hold up a second.
You know, you're not going to fucking die, but we need to learn more about this and we got to figure it out before we sit down and talk to you about it.
Just 25 years of reading shit and watching videos and studying physics and studying, you know, the secrecy acts and all that kind of weird shit.
You know, you put it together and a lot of it's bad information.
But after a long time, I realized I just realized what was going on.
I've studied enough of international finance, some mechanisms that happened after World War II, what the Nazis were doing technologically that no one really talks about to this day.
They were 100 years ahead of us about what their guys did at the end of the war in South America.
And the paperclip, paperclip was like, there's two levels of paperclip.
Paperclip is the operation that brought over all these ex-Nazis Into NASA and into all of our aerospace programs.
Why did we do that?
Well, because they knew some shit that was very important.
And we said there might be a bigger issue out there to deal with, so why don't we side with the devil or side with someone bad because there might be a devil out there.
I believe that there was, you know, I believe that there's a reason why the Cold War never got hot is because we're working with Russia on this specific issue.
It's like when someone goes, you know, the U.S. government did this.
Well, what do you mean?
What does that mean?
Does that mean the CIA did it or the DOD did it or Homeland Security did it?
You're dealing with, it's a trillion dollar organization.
It's like if somebody in Apple leaks an iPhone, you know, are you going to say, oh my god, Apple is doing, Apple's like, well shit, we're a $800 billion company.
We have so many things going on worldwide.
It's impossible to say the entire organization believes one thing.
I bring up the incidents with our nuclear weapons.
I bring up the incidences, a few other things that I want to get into.
And he goes, what do you need to do your project?
What are you looking for?
And I said, well, I need advisors.
I need people that are from different areas in the government because everyone has their own perspective.
You have people at the National Reconnaissance Office that have a perspective based on the satellite feeds they're getting and these things are coming in and out of the atmosphere.
Then you also have people from the agency That are worried about and collecting information of what's going on with people in different countries and here.
But then you also have, you know, engineers that have a perspective on how the technology is made and what that might mean because there's a lot of consciousness stuff that falls in this category.
They can pick up very, very specific heat signatures, and they have algorithms because what you have is a satellite is a device that can pick up what you program it to pick up.
Now, you put a sensor on there, but you've got to tell the sensor what to do.
So if the sensor says, look, something traveling at this speed with this kind of heat, you've got to record that, you've got to focus on it, and that's what we call an ICBM. But if something comes in and zigzags, stops, and turns left, and it's traveling 10 times faster than that, we need you to record that and focus in on that as well.
But if something just is moving low and it's only going 300 miles an hour and it has these big wings and a low whatever, that's just a plane.
So what it captures is based on how it's programmed.
I saw a paper where the Department of Defense figured out a physicist there, an algorithm of how to compute when the things fly in and collect smaller ships, like motherships, small ships, at what longitude and latitude and essentially what orbit it would land at when it would collect these other machines.
Everything I've been telling you today when you're dealing with there is a concerted international effort.
To deal with this stuff and that was in my book and that is – it's not like Roswell crashed and it was not like – like all the typical UFO shit that people dwell on isn't the story.
It's just that something crashed or someone saw – got abducted and saw this or someone pulled a little piece of metal out of their body.
But no one has put together what we're doing about it because our countrymen since World War II aren't stupid.
They're going to just sit you down and ask you questions for two days because you put together this idea that somehow or another there's some sort of an international collaboration to deal with the threat of alien life?
You've got to realize no one else has gone up there and talked about – once again, I'm in a tricky spot right now because a lot of what happened back then I can't really get into now because of the positions and the things I'm involved with.
The more of the issue was, what are you trying to achieve?
And once they found out who I was working with, they were like, holy shit.
And they only found that out.
When WikiLeaks broke into John Podesta's emails and I was having video conferences and conference calls with – he was Obama's senior advisor at the time.
So the Wall Street Journal broke the story like what's this rock star talking about UFOs with Hillary Clinton's campaign manager?
No, he was Obama's senior advisor, so it had nothing to do with Hillary.
So we were setting these up, and when that broke, I had to call up my partner from the CIA, and I said, you know, I had to say, now I can talk to you a little bit more about who these people are.
And that's where I gained a really large amount of credibility with them, but also where they realized that we've got to figure out a better way to do this.
Me and some very important people coming together to do something that I think is really beneficial to society.
But we have a lot of work to do because a lot of people, they don't know what to think of it.
At first they thought I was nuts when I was talking about my book.
I'm all, oh, I got these advisors, you know.
And then all of a sudden the Wall Street Journal broke this story and there's all these multi-star generals and head of some really big aerospace companies.
Then the big news organizations were like – Holy shit, this might be real.
A lot of kids still don't know and they're having fun on the internet.
And then I came out a couple weeks ago on stage with all these people and now it's like, now all the big huge, I'm dealing with some crazy big mainstream press that we're trying to keep at bay for a variety of reasons.
But yes, it's all true.
And what To The Stars is really after is how do we bring the public in on this and work together To communicate and educate this stuff.
How do we bring the technology out of the shadows and build it for the world?
And how do we, you know, tell the story in documentaries, nonfiction, fictional works over a period of years?
And if we do that, the public owns it.
The public has a say.
They're a part of it.
And then people will start to understand over time why they did what they did.
They didn't lie to people Just out of, like, ego.
They're like, okay, there's this group called ISIS, and they're here, and we need to understand them, and we need to fucking figure it out quick.
But the problem is, these are extraordinarily advanced civilizations that have been coming here forever.
That's why it's all in all the ancient fucking scripts and texts and carved into rocks and all that shit.
But trying to figure it out, trying to connect the dots, and trying to...
I mean, looking at...
Debris that they probably still have in a warehouse and we have no fucking clue how to make this or back engineer this stuff.
I mean there's a piece of metal from a crash that I've seen and I've seen the science on it and it's atomically aligned and it's layered in like 80 layers within just a few microns of purities of metal that aren't even in our solar system.
They think it needs to be made in an area where there's no gravity.
So number one, it has to be made in space.
Number two, even if we were to create a machine that can potentially do some of this stuff, 3D printing layers of different metals of obscene purities, it would cost hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
So you're going to be showing people this actual physical piece of metal that was constructed in a zero-gravity environment in space, and if you hit it with enough energy, it becomes weightless.
But you're timing how fast it takes an electron to move over the surface of the metal, then you charge the metal, and then you're timing the exact same thing, and there will be different times.
And the positive result is that it lost mass, so it traveled faster or slower or whatever the hell is supposed to happen.
Yeah, and the reason is because we're also going to show videos that just got declassified from our most advanced systems.
I think they call it the Aegis system.
It's a radar system and forward-looking infrared of UFOs.
I have those in possession, actually, already.
And so we're going to show the videos that just...
I mean, the first time in history, by the way, that videos of UFOs have been declassified.
There's been leaks.
And there's been people catching shit on their phones, but I have all the chain of custody, all the documents and everything.
And we just got those a few weeks ago.
And there's a shitload more coming.
And so we'll release the videos and we'll show the experiment as a proof of concept so everyone knows this shit's all real.
Because right now they're just looking at a drawing and they're looking at this guy from the Skunk Works, you know, and just going, how the fuck are they going to build a machine that plays with time and plays with the fabric of space-time?
And so we have to kind of educate people and say, it's possible, it's possible.
So what that does, what the machine does that we're building is there's an electromagnetic...
It's a wave that is the foundation of everything, of all mass, of everything.
Some people call it zero-point energy.
Some people call it the vacuum energy.
But like one inch of air could power the United States for like hundreds of years kind of thing or maybe more.
So what they've got to do is isolate very specific atoms to where all the noise of all matter and cell phones and everything that's going on on Earth can be separated from this one atom.
And if you can do that with the right material, you can get access to that electromagnetic wave that's powering the atom.
The invisible wave pattern that's under everything of all existence.
And once you do that, it's not like splitting an atom.
This is the power behind the atom.
It's extraordinarily dangerous, but it's also what will turn that thing on and it'll turn into a ball of light and just disappear.
And I could show you a video of Of something doing that.
Where he really fucked up, though, so for the people I don't know that are listening, he's a guy that came out.
He's the reason we know about Area 51. He literally is the guy that broke...
The story of its existence.
He got brought in for a job and during the interviews they said, we have another idea for you.
And they put him in a place he claims had all these disks and he was on a back engineering team as a physicist.
But what happened was they rushed him in there because, per his story, they tried to cut into one of the propulsion devices and it exploded and killed a bunch of scientists.
So the Nevada test site, which is the area where Area 51 and all that stuff is, released a statement that they were just doing a small little nuke test.
But it was really because of this thing.
And so they rushed him in there without doing all of his background checks because it takes six months to a year.
And during those background checks, he was already working on this stuff.
They found that his wife was going a little haywire because he couldn't tell her what he was doing.
And he would leave in the middle of the night.
He'd be gone for a week.
And she was getting fed up.
And so she started having an affair.
And so they're listening in on all the phone calls and checking him out.
And they're kind of going, his home life is unstable.
So they stopped calling him to come into work while they figure it out.
He knows.
I mean, he's working next to a guy with a machine gun.
He knows that this is no fucking joke.
No one knows what he's been doing.
He thought he did something wrong.
So as the nervous individual he is, he runs to his friends and says, this is what I've been doing.
This is what I've been working on.
There's alien craft.
It's over here at Groom Lake.
And the tests are every Wednesday night at 8 o'clock.
And his wife goes, holy shit.
And his friend goes, holy shit.
And he goes, come on, I'll show you.
So they drive three hours north of Vegas, outside on public land.
And they videotape and watch these UFOs come up and be tested and dart around and disappear.
And he goes, that's the one I'm working on.
And it's almost like, well, how did you know what time?
Because I'm working on it.
Well, he does this three times.
I think it was three times.
And on the third time, they got caught.
Because I've been there.
There's security that travels those mountains.
You always hear about those guys out there in Area 51. And when they caught him...
They're like, holy fuck!
He's like, what the fuck is he doing?
Why is he telling everyone?
So he runs to the news station with George Knapp, who's another host on Coast to Coast, and he tells him what he's doing, and he just goes live on Las Vegas News, and it caught like wildfire across the world.
And so then these guys grabbed him, put him in a room, put a gun to his head, and said, when we told you not to say anything, we didn't mean to say everything.
And he got really scared.
They started fucking with him.
I was actually in a meeting two nights ago talking about some of the things they did.
One of the things he did, he went to a gym.
He didn't have access to a lot of guns, but for some fucking reason he had like an Uzi.
It was in his glove compartment.
He goes to a gym and he comes out and his car doors are open.
The glove compartment is open and the Uzi is just sitting on his chair.
He got shot at on the freeway and they erased a bunch of his records.
And he's still to this day really nervous about it.
He always claimed...
For a while, he claimed he had part of...
This is what I will say.
He claimed the energy source was an element that was very heavy.
And it was like unapenium or something like that, 115 element.
And 25 years ago, he talked all about it.
And then literally three years ago, maybe four, they added it to the periodic table.
Well, whatever it was, it was in New Mexico that they had found that he actually did work in the building, even though they tried to say that he didn't.
So that he did something with somebody, and however much...
Of his story was true always gets fishy when you find one thing that's not true, like that he didn't go to MIT. You know Stanton Friedman, who's a very famous UFO researcher.
He's one of the main guys arguing that Bob Lazar is full of shit.
You know what's interesting is there is a – I know the guy that did all the research on that, and I know the guy that studied it for decades, and he's actually writing a foreword on the book.
The journalist is one like – Eight Peabody Awards and Emmys and shit.
But George Knapp, who I told you about, and he's just got, like, he can speak for hours on that entire thing.
Researchers create Element 115 in the lab for the second time overall in the first time in a decade, paving the way for its official status as a member of the periodic table.
And so, Google Bob Lazar Element 115. Yeah.
Because I would think that if he knew that, like, that long ago, like, that alone would make people want to take him more seriously.
All the stuff that he said, well, first of all, we know that there is a Groom Lake.
We know that there is an Area 51. We know they denied its existence, and so they wanted to expand the perimeter.
Because people would sit on a ledge and they would watch all these test flights of whatever the fuck they had, whatever it was they were doing, whether working on stealth bombers, whatever it was.
People would film this.
And so they wanted to expand the perimeter of prohibited area.
And so in doing so, they had to admit the existence of the base itself.
A particle is accelerated to high speed and then deflected up a small tube and it's aimed at the 115. This transmutes the 115, similar to the way we do that in a normal particle accelerator.
This causes a reaction, a radiation emission that we really haven't seen before.
Well, so what he's saying is that there's a gravity wave that's accessible on a really large element that extends beyond the perimeter of the atom.
And when you bombard that element with one particle, kind of like what we were talking about before, it goes through a tuned tube, like a very tiny miniature CERN. The CERN's like a big magnet.
It holds a particle in a very specific spot.
It hovers.
It shoots and it hits that.
It decays.
It becomes this matter-antimatter reaction.
These generators can convert all that energy into power, and then they can amplify that wave that's coming off and emanating from that element.
And they amplify it like you would amplify a radio wave.
Now, there's no wires in the craft because most likely it was 3D printed.
We didn't know about 3D printing back then.
I've talked to Bob about this.
But not just 3D printing, you know, just the materials, but atomically...
Aligning the elements so consciousness and other types of things can move through those materials to operate the craft.
Craft that he had found inside one of these bays in area 51 He realized very quickly that it wasn't something that we had created and that it was somehow another powered through intention Yep, that would go through like touch or feel or put their hands would be on this thing and consciously you would Somehow or another control all the various aspects of this machine.
I've seen many, many documents on the studies of these things and I've seen a lot of the science associated with What the technology is and what it does.
Like, I could show you, if I fold up pieces of paper and stuff, what's going on with it.
But basically, you know, these craft, you know, when you...
They travel in a straight line, but they're folding space-time.
So they have some way of interfacing with space itself that's very different than our idea of traveling in a linear way from point A to point B. Space, the fabric, they call it the fabric of space-time because it's like a fabric.
So if you look at the people involved, we have senior...
When you get to the senior levels of government, you're either called an SES or SIS, Senior Intelligence Service, Senior Executive Service, or you're a brass.
But either way, the civilians have the same kind of ranking charter that the brass does.
So SES-3, SES-3 would be the same thing as a three-star general.
That's who these people are around me.
So I had the head of the Skunk Works Engineering.
I got, you know, SIS Two Star from the Clandestine Directorate of Operations.
I have a guy under Secretary of Intelligence for the Senate Intelligence Committee and was...
Assessment of all of the, of what those machines are doing that gives off all these types of effects that people are witnessing.
But there's also a very large group of people that have had within government that have had close contact, like hundreds, and it's connected to my group and there's just more coming in that way.
So that program is trying to figure out what those technologies did to those people and how those technologies work, even though it.
it's more about tasking our assets like satellites and other things to be able to find these things better.
But this is different than the Secret Machines book, which is more of another thing altogether.
Now, is there any sort of speculation as to why life forms from other planets, other galaxies, other solar systems, different kind of gravity, different environments, would create a life form that's exactly similar to us?
Or are they imitating what we look like in order to infiltrate our world and hang with us?
Or some sort of artificial intelligence thing that doesn't have a life form.
Yeah, I've heard that idea before.
And it kind of makes sense a little bit, right?
I mean, if you're a living thing and you're traveling through space, obviously you have biological limitations in terms of the need for oxygen and gravitational interactions and all these different things.
Well, one of the scary hallmarks of those ones, the rumor is it in the back of their head is a transmitter.
So you got to wonder where it's sin and shit.
But at the same time, you know, I can tell you that when you look at the Bible, the angels and the demons of the Bible would be the humans and the androids that I just told you about.
You could tell me Star System 483. Well, you know about Element 115. I would want to know about Starship, Enterprise, Coordinate, 115, B6, 5, Polaris, wherever the fuck it is.
That there's a very advanced group that left after a catastrophe and hung around in a small outpost here and throughout time would push civilization forward and that's who the Greek gods were.
He goes, I didn't read much science fiction as a kid, but I read a lot about Greek mythology.
And looked me in the eye and said, well, you're going to love the last page of my book then.
He's like, am I? And when my book was about ready to go to pressing, I had a very important person call me up.
He says, can you stop that pressing and maybe insert something about Greek mythology?
And I said, I sure can.
So something you've got to realize is, for example...
The sixth biggest defense contractor in the world, at least there used to be six, is a company called Science Applications International Corporation, SAIC. Their headquarters are actually in San Diego.
And in the front of the building, you have an ablisk coming out of a fake lake and two Atlantean on thrones.
So, you know, he was able to tell a really interesting story based on these texts.
But some people don't agree with them.
But at the end of the day, I think it's the closest thing we got.
And in my early conversations, when I was being given some interesting science fiction stuff for my book...
The Greek mythology part, I brought up the Sumerians, and they showed me one particular king.
They said, we find this one very interesting, and I can't remember his name, but it fired so quick when I asked the question, it came right back with this whole thing on this one Sumerian king.
Well, what's fascinating about them is that they really did know a lot about our solar system.
And you think about the fact that they were around 5,000 years ago, they had a detailed model of the solar system with all of the planets, and they were all relatively close in size.
This is a clay, one of those clay cylinders that you would, what you would do is you would put out a flat piece of clay, and you would roll the cylinder over it, and that's how they would print things.
Well, it's just, it's really interesting when you look at these ancient civilizations and their attempts to decipher the world around them and you try to figure out what did they know?
You know, how much did they know?
The Sumerians are one of the more interesting cases to me because of the fact that they had this really bizarre map of the solar system.
I think there's life on Mars, and I think it's – we'll start from – I think there's life on Mars.
I think it's small little animals and microbial or insects, shit that's kind of learning how to live with its radioactive environment.
Which, by the way, a bunch of scientists from JPL found that there was some atomic weapons that went off on Mars because the radioactive signature can only happen if you explode a nuclear weapon that's artificially made, not like something a bunch of scientists from JPL found that there was some atomic weapons that went off on Mars because the Can only happen if you explode a nuclear weapon that's artificially made, not like something that happens naturally, like a moon exploding on the surface.
All peer-reviewed science that the signature of the radioactive activity from this very specific isotope that only comes from artificial nuclear explosion or something shit.
He was one of the main proponents of the face on Mars and all the pyramids that they found on Mars.
They would find these weird connections between one point to another point and somehow or another they made some arbitrary distinctions that those were indicative of intelligent design.
The second thing we're doing, he might really actually be interested in.
So the two aerospace projects to the stars is doing, one is we're building something that will, in effect, be anti-gravity, but that's actually not the mechanism it does in building a spacecraft.
But the second thing that we're doing is called beamed energy propulsion, which is something I think Musk will be very interested in.
It's launching CubeSats with lasers.
So the Air Force Research Lab kind of broke the science back in the 90s and a bunch of people associated with that program got it declassified and they're working for us on building it.
So it'll take a handful of years to do, but what you do is you use very strong either microwaves or some other kind of wave and it ignites and explodes the air underneath a mechanism that carries a CubeSat.
And so essentially what happens is you don't use any fossil fuels.
And it can bring the cost of launching a CubeSat from like 50 grand down to 5 grand.
It's like crazy.
So that means colleges and neighbors and anyone else can launch CubeSats quite easily.
Now have you had any debates with people about this stuff?
Have you ever like had someone who thinks that this is all nonsense and sat down with you, understands physics, understands rocket propulsion, space and elements and all that shit?
But what could it be that's so crazy if you know, I mean, what you've said?
Think about what you've said.
You said that there's some ridiculous sort of propulsion system that allows you to move through time, that they visit this planet all the time and extract resources, that there's people in the government that are trying to disseminate this information, but they don't know how to do it.
They don't know the right vehicle to do it.
They're doing it in these sort of controlled chunks.
Yeah, but if you go back to the early days when Oprah used to do that stupid show where she'd have like KKK members on and everybody sat on white plastic seats.
I don't want to speak again for my company, but one of the people on our board, they call it a SAP, Scientific Advisory Board, is a lead geneticist from Stanford who, I think he was up for the Nobel this year.
Well, there's a lot of junk DNA. There's certain parts of our DNA that seems to have been turned off.
There's a bunch of things in there that we don't understand, and we don't have the leaps of humanity over the past 5,000 years to really show what happened in the past 5,000 years that wasn't happening for the hundreds of millions of years before that.
They just found a footprint that was like 100 million years old or something like that.
Like, there was a librarian that said that she didn't believe that she was a young Earth creationist.
She thought that there was a picture online that showed a human footprint inside a dinosaur footprint that it proved that people walked with dinosaurs.
And that's why at that defense contractor, multi, multi, multi, multi-billion dollar defense contractor, the ones that chose the government of Iraq after we took over Iraq, and the ones that looked after all of our nukes...
Right, but that's like the whole reason why we're supposedly here, that it killed off the dinosaurs and allowed whatever, they think there was some sort of a mole, mole-type creature that evolved over 65 million years to become us.
No, I think that at some point in history, someone came here and tampered with existing creatures and made us, and upgraded us at very specific intervals.
So if you think about it that way, if you think about that all life somehow or another continues to evolve and advanced and through natural selection, genetic mutation and random mutations that things move from one stage of existence to what they are today, right?
That when you look at, you know, a condor or a hippopotamus, that it used to be something different and now it's that.
The way I've heard it explained to me, though, is that the only leap that's really confusing is the doubling of the human brain.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's the big leap, and it's over the period of two million years.
Obviously, I'm too stupid to really understand this, but from what I've read and what I've heard people talk about, that's apparently one of the biggest mysteries when it comes to the human fossil record.
But there's a pretty clear line, apparently, from Australopithecus to, you know, to the homosexuals.
Because it has to be managed in a certain way for people to understand and I think that someone sitting down and watching a debate play out and having an idea of what What went on over the past 70 years, they'll come out of that with an emotional response and more of an understanding and then want to go watch the documentary and then want to buy some of the nonfiction works that we've done.
I've already put out one of our nonfiction books with Secret Machines.
Well, it's not every—I mean, look at Lou Elizondo, the guy that works for me that just came from the Pentagon, literally quit the Pentagon two weeks ago.
I was—I can't tell you where I'm at.
A lot of can't tell you.
I know.
I'm sorry.
But he's with me, and he was on stage with me.
On the live event we did on the 11th saying, I left the Pentagon days ago, I ran this particular UFO program, and this is what we know, and they are real, and we're going to continue that program here at To The Stars.
Now, so your goal is to release this information through documentaries, through films, and to educate people of the existence of this, and is it to make a ship?
No, so this is, once again, look, by putting together, you can't attack this subject by just, like, if you make a movie, that's a crazy movie, if you make a science paper on it, no one's going to read it, and the technology will never see the light of day because it's been modified as weaponry or whatever it is,
that the only way to get people to understand what the fuck is going on is by first present them the story so they have an understanding that it Is real, and it is happening, and lay it in a way that's grounded and practical, but still moves you, and then follow up with the science, and then show them that that thing you're watching in the movie can be engineered and created.
So we are doing it all together.
But there's a thing called a community of interest.
So To The Stars is also building a portal with the Department of Defense to share information, to educate people, to put some declassified, now declassified videos of UFOs, some science and documents and have open forums and have current military people talk to young adults.
Well, the endgame is to, the technology itself is like, so when you make, when you create this energy source that powers the spacecraft, it's called an overunity machine.
So it puts out more power than what's put into it.
You can desalinate ocean water with it.
You can get rid of atomic power so there's no radio, no more Fukushima, you know.
It could do a lot of different things, but it also will rapidly, rapidly transform our entire transportation and communication network.
So the end result with that is that'll get spun out into a company that's probably partners with major aerospace organizations, with whom I'm already talking.
So a year and a half ago, maybe 24 months ago, the SEC wanted to democratize going public with companies, just like an IPO, but not have to spend millions of dollars and do it.
So they launched what's called a Regulation A direct public offering.
And we had a file with the SEC. So we had to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this, and we spent the last six months doing it.
Well, look, that's where I'm going with most of this stuff, but the company I had to get up and get going and set it up and we bring in a CEO and all that kind of shit.
Well, the heart of it is when we do what's called confirmation, not disclosure, confirmation, the heart of it is how do we tell stories that galvanize the human race and let them know a little bit more about what's going on, and how do we present them science so they understand that consciousness and a lot of other things are real, and how do we build a technology associated with those stories and with those science that can change the world?
Okay, so in the next few weeks, we're going to be releasing the first declassified videos of these advanced aerial threat UFOs.
And they are current videos that were just caught, and with audio and everything of the people tracking them.
And we're going to launch the beta version of the Community of Interest, which is the partnered website that's going to be hosting all this declassified information, where we're going to be having the hardcore conversations with people that want to understand this stuff.
We're going to be Also doing an experiment with that piece of metal to show the world that the technology is not only real, but it's demonstrable.
And the videos are very much a proof of concept.
We're showing you, look, it works, so we're going to build it.
On my scientific board, advisory board, is one of the guys at CIA that headed up the entire bio-warfare program and the director of operations, the clandestine division.
Was tying together a mechanism that can perpetually fund itself and can communicate and can I created a roundtable with engineers, scientists, high-ranking intelligence officials, and some others I can't tell you about, obviously.
In the defense world, it's called stove piping.
So when they compartmentalize a secret, they put them into these vertical categories that can't talk to each other.
I created a horizontal structure where all these people in these amazing, accomplished, Positions in government, we're able to come together at the same table, and they can discuss what we want to teach the world and how we want to do that.
But the way to do that is including the public and making it a public benefit corporation.
And what that means is we're able to spend money, and it's in our charter, on things that can benefit the world and not just provide a return to the investors.
But what we're doing happens to be extremely lucrative.
The engineers that are building this thing, the guy...
So Steve Justice, that was head of advanced programs at the Skunk Works, we talked about that.
They build all of our...
They are the tip of the spear for the most advanced spacecraft and aircraft that the United States national security apparatus has.
Period.
Period.
Hands down.
And he was the big boy there.
And their model, we think we have, you know...
This is a guess, but I think there's a 60% chance within 36 months or so we'll be able to demonstrate something pretty kick-ass.
And as long as there's no major obstacle there, we think within eight years we'll be able to have something.
But it's expensive, and we've got to work with the government, and we're going to have to work with major aerospace.
For example, this one meeting I have coming up with a big name aerospace company is offering their material sciences division.
We need that.
We need to be able to create certain metals that can resonate in certain frequencies, shit like that.
The other way that the company makes money is when we build the satellite launching system, that's like exactly what Elon's doing now, putting satellites in orbit, but we don't have to build rockets.
We can launch them with lasers.
That's a big, big deal.
You point lasers at the bottom of a CubeSat, which is like the size of a shoebox, and you can put it into low-Earth orbit, and you can put it up even higher without using any fossil fuels, with using light.
That's a big deal.
That's a multi-billion dollar gimmick right there.
If you watch the video at the top of the tothestarsacademy.com page, you'll see shots of it where little things glowing and it's getting beamed up into the sky.
A CubeSat is a modular box that you put together as modules based on what you need.
Okay, I need a thruster, I need a sensor, and I need a fucking RF signal thing to send the data back home.
So now you've got three little boxes attached.
That's a CubeSat.
They call them cubes.
So it's essentially...
It's probably 80% of the satellite business, but now they've got to put all these CubeSats together on Musk's rocket that's also launching giant satellites for DoD or whatever, but it's super expensive because you have a rocket and you have all the fossil fuels and all this stuff.
If you launch these CubeSats with lasers because they're not that heavy and you can, like I said, it would take a cost of launching a CubeSat from 50 grand a pound down to 5 grand.
And then you go to the entertainment division, which is my primary spot.
You know, making movies and selling millions of books and licensing this stuff out is the reason why Disney's $300 billion and Warner Brothers is $5 billion.
Warner Brothers just makes movies.
Disney, they make franchises and they're vertically integrated.
We put out the book.
We put out the t-shirts.
We make the movie.
So that's really where we're going.
And we have three television series that are...
Probably, one of which will be announced probably in the next couple weeks.
The other two, we're a little further out on that.
The first film, our first film, is first quarter next year.
I wrote that one, and I'll be directing that one.
It's called Strange Times, which is like a hard R version of The Goonies, but funny, but scary and fucked up, but with 17 and 18-year-old kids.
And then Secret Machines, the motion picture.
These are all franchises.
So Strange Times has an animated series that's coming out.
We have a wonderful writer from Saturday Night Live that's showrunning the thing.
We have an unscripted show coming out on the entire company, just following us in a very national geographic way as we do all these things.
And as we build lasers, as we're on the movie sets, as we're in the lab, you know, Pinging those pieces of metal I told you about.
So there's a lot of things like that going.
So when you ask about how do we monetize all this shit, we have a full functioning entertainment division.
It's been up for a few years.
That's what I've been doing.
And that's how I made the book.
And we've put out Seven novels already, but your end goal is ultimately to expose all this information my American my end goal is not just that my end goal is to build a company that changes the world and By doing a traditional IPO in the next five to seven years and to do that I grabbed Very, very high-ranking people from various areas in the government to achieve all this stuff.
And they don't need to come in on the movies.
I have that on lock.
That's my thing.
But it can function as a way to help people understand what the fuck is going on.
So some of the movies, some of the TV series, some of the nonfiction works that we do will all be about that subject.