Sept. 26, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:03:48
| 
| Speaker | Time | Text |
|---|---|---|
| September. | ||
|
unidentified
|
9th. | |
| There we go. | ||
|
unidentified
|
God. | |
| Completed my homework. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| So what was the day that we were supposed to die from Nibiru? | ||
| I think it was the 20th. | ||
| It was Saturday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 23rd, is that right? | ||
| 23rd? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| What was it, Jamie? | ||
| 33 days after the eclipse. | ||
| Oh, then Nibiru was going to come and smash us. | ||
| Isn't it huge? | ||
| Wouldn't we see it coming? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Pretty big. | ||
| It has to be pretty big. | ||
| It has to be pretty big. | ||
| Do you know the whole Zacharias Hitchin thing? | ||
| Do you know the whole thing? | ||
| A little bit, yeah. | ||
| I was kind of into that for a while. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| It was a while ago that I realized I was like super into it, like Art Bell days. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I used to love Art Bell days. | ||
| Remember when his son got kidnapped? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, that's right. | |
| Remember that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Who kidnapped his son? | |
| It was really weird. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Was it real? | ||
| I couldn't tell if it was real or not. | ||
| That was the problem. | ||
| I used to listen to it coming home from the comedy store. | ||
| It was the thing to listen to. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| 10 o'clock, late night, driving home. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, totally. | |
| Art Bell, man. | ||
| Midnight, Art Bell. | ||
| Live from Pahrump, Nevada. | ||
| Yeah, Pahrump. | ||
| He had this fenced-in compound in Pahrump, Nevada with a radio signal. | ||
| In a lot of ways, he was doing internet before the internet. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you're right. | ||
| He was kind of like an aggregator, like a curator. | ||
| I mean, he was a curator, he was conscious curation, but it... | ||
| Is that what you mean? | ||
| Like the content of what he was talking about? | ||
| Well, it was also like there's a lot of... | ||
| I would say there's a lot more people that have access to like UFO conspiracy theory type stuff now because of the internet. | ||
| And before then, Art Bell was like your only source for that. | ||
| Oh, I got you. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The deep cuts. | ||
| Yeah, that kind of stuff. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| His son kidnapping is pretty dark. | ||
| Son assaulted by HIV teacher? | ||
| Oh Jesus, let's not put that on. | ||
| There's some people out there. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But Art Bell had this crazy fenced-in compound that literally looked like it was in the middle of this open prairie. | ||
| I never saw pictures of it. | ||
| Yeah, they put pictures online. | ||
| Who knows what I was looking at? | ||
| It might not even been that. | ||
| It might have been, like, he faked people out with this. | ||
| He probably might live in a regular house. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You want him to live in that situation. | ||
| I hope. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Because he's kind of like a, you know, in a way, he was like a mystic. | ||
| Those types of people, they're kind of like mystics. | ||
| They're hermits. | ||
| They live in, like, these weird places because they have to be, you know, in the right conditions to receive the information. | ||
| Yeah, there's his house. | ||
| See, it's all, like, fenced in. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a very large... | ||
| That's a weird... | ||
| Well, that's a weird... | ||
| Someone's going over the fence. | ||
| Look, he's got windmills for electricity. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| He's got some big sort of truck he's got backed in there where he gets probably supplies. | ||
| He's a total prepper. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Our pal was incredible. | ||
| That's, and it's blue, is it a bluish teal or something like that? | ||
| It is so like a Beverly Hills rundown motel color, you know? | ||
| Is it Rambler? | ||
| You know, like off tans and off blues? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Look at that tower, the radio tower. | ||
| It's so huge. | ||
| This giant fucking tower in the middle of his yard. | ||
| That can't give you cancer, can it? | ||
| No. | ||
| Should be, right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
No. | |
| Sure, something's going on. | ||
| No, it would never, it would never do anything. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What's that other one? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| Oh, I know what that is. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| I think that's a TV aerial, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, maybe it is a radio. | ||
| Maybe it's a radio, but it looks like an old-school TV thing. | ||
| These are fucking huge towers he has. | ||
| I know, because he must... | ||
| Yeah, because he used... | ||
| He probably... | ||
| He did. | ||
| He broadcasts from there. | ||
| So, yeah, in a way, that's another, like, internet reference. | ||
| Art Bell was the first time I heard of Terence McKenna outside of a Bill Hicks joke. | ||
| One Bill Hicks joke. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| He referenced, he said, he was talking about five grams of dried mushrooms or what Terence McKenna would refer to as a heroic dose. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I was like, wow, who's Terence McKenna? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I heard Terence McKenna on the Art Bell show live from Hawaii. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| Terrence McKenna had this crazy setup in Hawaii where he lived in Kona on the mountain, and he was totally off the grid, but way more than Art Bell. | ||
| He was in the jungle, off the grid. | ||
| He would have these basins to catch rainwater. | ||
| He had several acres around him, which he was growing psychedelic plants. | ||
| He had a thousand books. | ||
| He lived totally by himself. | ||
| He had like a generator for power, and he was completely off the grid, and he built the house there. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| Dude! | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| He's just up there writing and tripping, and then he would leave, like, every six months. | ||
| He would take off and leave for six months and just do these tours where he would do these speaking things in, like, hippie places like Austin, Texas, and, you know, Portland, Oregon, and shit like that. | ||
| And they would gather around all these people to listen to all of his stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And have you ever heard Psychedelic Salon? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| Psychedelic Salon's a podcast, a great podcast, and I've had Lorenzo from Psychedelic Salon on, but it's all like old recordings of Timothy Leary and Alan Watts. | ||
| Are you related? | ||
| No, I wish, man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You wish? | |
| That would be the shit. | ||
| I really wish that I was related to him. | ||
| That would be rather nice. | ||
| Profound and with an English accent. | ||
| Yes, he's very careful. | ||
| But he has all the McKenna recordings, all of them, way back through time. | ||
| He plays them all the time. | ||
| McKenna was which time period? | ||
| I sometimes get them fused with Leary. | ||
| No, he was post-Leary, but he was there. | ||
| You know, he was there during that era, but he came into prominence post-Leary. | ||
| I think his main psychedelic experiences were in the 70s. | ||
| Like, he had some really, really crazy mushroom trips with his brother Dennis, who's an amazing guy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, that's right. | |
| Dennis is alive. | ||
| He's alive. | ||
| He's been on this podcast several times. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| And he's actually a professor. | ||
| And Dennis, like, recounts all these tales. | ||
| And one time, Terrence and Dennis went into the jungle, and they took too many mushrooms. | ||
| And Dennis completely lost his mind, like, went away for two weeks. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa. | |
| For two weeks. | ||
| Just incoherent, rambling, had some sort of a psychotic event. | ||
| Like, and just... | ||
| Like broke down the nature of reality itself. | ||
| Just went way too deep. | ||
| It was gone for like two weeks. | ||
| They had to watch him. | ||
| They had to watch over him. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's almost like he was exposed to such a complicated mathematical equation. | ||
| And it took him that long to figure it out. | ||
| And he came out of it. | ||
| He's like, okay, I figured it out. | ||
| I'm back. | ||
| Well, you know, Terrence came up with the idea of the stoned ape theory. | ||
| And it wasn't just Terrence. | ||
| It was Terrence, along with a lot of other psychedelic researchers, they sort of formulated some of the parts of this hypothesis. | ||
| But the parts of this hypothesis had to deal with human beings evolving from lower primates because the lower primates were forced to try out new foods because... | ||
| The rainforests were receding in the grasslands, and all these undulates who were eating up all the plants as they were growing up, they were shitting. | ||
| And they were leaving cow patties, and in these cow patties, the mushrooms, of course, would grow. | ||
| So these monkey people-like things that were us, that were living in the trees, they were forced to test out new food sources. | ||
| And it coincides, this theory coincides with climate data that we know about changing of the temperatures back in Africa during that time, in these particular regions. | ||
| And he thinks that these lower primates started experimenting with mushrooms. | ||
| They'd flip cow patties all the time to get beetles and bugs and things along those lines. | ||
| And so they would flip it, and they would pick these mushrooms out to see if they could eat them. | ||
| Well, in low doses, mushrooms enhance visual acuity, so it would help you be a better hunter, makes you more sensitive, and it makes you more horny, which would make you more likely to breed. | ||
| So you would be much more likely to be a successful hunter and more likely to breed. | ||
| That's like a triple threat right there. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Crazy! | |
| And that's outside of the psychedelic effects, right? | ||
| The psychedelic effects of enhancing community, of creative thinking, all these things that happen when you do mushrooms in varying doses. | ||
| And he believes that mushrooms are responsible for the doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years, which is apparently the biggest mystery in the fossil record. | ||
| Yeah, it's so quick. | ||
| Yeah, so quick. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's a total departure. | ||
| And it's the organ responsible for the fossil record in the first place. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| For the understanding of what a fossil record is. | ||
| And the reason why we're writing all this stuff down. | ||
| I mean, it's because of the mine. | ||
| Well, this mine doubled over a period of two million years. | ||
| And I think what they think is there's a bunch of different factors. | ||
| And people argue about this, but I think it's important. | ||
| Really important to be balanced about this and go, I don't think if it's either or. | ||
| I think there was a bunch of shit going on. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They think it had to do with humans figuring out fire and how to cook meat. | ||
| They think cooking meat allowed people to get more nutrients, which allowed people to be healthier. | ||
| And if you can kill one animal, you'd have more resources to sort of figure things out. | ||
| They started thinking of shelters and weapons and all these different various things that led to civilization. | ||
| There's one theory that goes along that way. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Trade. | |
| Yeah, trade. | ||
| The throwing arm is another one. | ||
| The fact that we could throw, that we could throw things, we could hit shit that was nowhere near us, like no other animal. | ||
| And then once we figured out Spears, this ability to do this one thing might have led us to enough free time to start innovating. | ||
| And then the brain, as time went on, favored the ones who were more innovative and more disciplined and more creative. | ||
| And those are the ones that survive longer. | ||
| Which is obviously what we reward in people today. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| That hasn't gone away. | ||
| No, that hasn't gone away. | ||
| That totally makes sense. | ||
| I mean, it's like, you know, I view, in general, the idea of awareness and consciousness as a... | ||
| As a metaphor, many people use it, but just like a computer operating system. | ||
| Or consciousness experiencing itself infinitely. | ||
| But that's this form of an operating system. | ||
| We live in a binary version of isolate, which is kind of like a game to then rediscover the fact that that's not true. | ||
| It is true, but it's also not true. | ||
| To arrive at the paradox. | ||
| The answer of the thing that happens within a paradox, like a good joke. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| When you're like, here's the setup, here's the punchline. | ||
| And so somewhere when those two things collide in a group of people, it will trigger a reaction. | ||
| And if it's laughter, in that moment, it's understanding a paradox. | ||
| It's like feeling the effects of a paradox, where it actually... | ||
| Right. | ||
| A very unique moment. | ||
| A crazy thing that, like, you didn't expect to experience because it's so different than everything else you experience in everyday life. | ||
| Yeah, it's like everything and nothing simultaneously. | ||
| Like, you get that quick, like, boosh, because a joke kind of does that, at least in my opinion. | ||
| And that makes you feel like it gives everyone a sense of enlightenment for a moment. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I don't think a joke does it the way a psychedelic experience does it. | ||
| Definitely, there's like this weird moment when you're laughing at someone who's really killing. | ||
| Like when you, like you, you escape from your, the shackles of your normal thinking. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. | ||
| And you, and you, it's just a joyfulness because it's, it's like you get this perspective. | ||
| It's like such a zoomed out perspective on this thing in such a small instant of time that it's just like, it's like being on a ride, you know, it's like you're just suddenly there and you're like, Do you feel like when, I've been talking about this a lot, do you feel like that what's going on is like a form of hypnosis? | ||
| When a comedian is like killing over a crowd, like it's like a form of hypnosis? | ||
| Because I always feel like when I'm watching someone on stage and they really got me, I'm not really thinking, I'm kind of allowing them to think for me and I'm just like sitting down smiling and enjoying the ride they take me on. | ||
| I'm not doing any analyzing myself. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why it's very important to really think carefully about people's attention spans and how to get these ideas into their head. | ||
| I think it is, in a way, a state of mind that you achieve on stage that's very similar to hypnosis. | ||
| Yeah, you're talking about the effect on people and the idea of what's happening. | ||
| I think the comedian as well, because I feel like it's my job to put all the pieces together and practice it and just tweak it. | ||
| But when I get on stage and it starts happening, I feel like I'm as much of a passenger as I am the driver. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's a really great description. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with that 100%. | ||
| I mean, you know, like sometimes I'll say that the feeling that I get on stage, if I'm, you know, making music or even just like riffing or whatever, is that I feel like I'm actually, I'm watching the show or I actually step out of myself and I'm actually kind of enjoying the show. | ||
| And then there'll be a moment where I'll be like, oh, fuck, right. | ||
| I'm also doing that. | ||
| When you can't enjoy it too much. | ||
| I'll snap back in. | ||
| But in those moments, that's exactly... | ||
| I dig that. | ||
| Because it exists. | ||
| It just depends on where your awareness lands. | ||
| You know what I always feel like, man? | ||
| I always feel like the dude running the old school movie projector. | ||
| You really just kind of turn it on, but you have to be there in case anything fucks up. | ||
| For the most part, it runs on its own. | ||
| Do you remember how it didn't used to, though, when you'd go to the movies? | ||
| Yeah, there was an operator. | ||
| There was just someone next to it, just in case something fucked up. | ||
| Do you remember when movies fucked up and you'd have to yell out? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I do remember that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The film's down! | |
| The film's down! | ||
| Those are great! | ||
| I know, those are great communal moments. | ||
| In retrospect, those are great! | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, the fuck-ups, the chaos, that's great. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| That's the community. | ||
| That's a real test of character to see whether you talk in a movie theater. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Like the kind of people that talk in movie theaters. | ||
| Like during a movie? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Like you really know whether or not you can hang out with someone if they talk in a movie theater. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because if someone starts talking in the movie theater, you're like, hey, you're inconsiderate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Or unless, for me, I have this little secret. | ||
| If it's a brief comment, I don't really mind so much. | ||
| But yeah, that's the secret. | ||
| Get really quiet and get close to their ear. | ||
| And don't whisper. | ||
| Just speak in kind of a, like, hey, you know, what am I thinking? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| Because the higher your whisper is, it's much more sibilant and everyone can hear it. | ||
| So whispers are actually louder than a hushed tone. | ||
| And there's also the people that just start talking about normal shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Totally has nothing to do with the movie. | ||
| Debbie called. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| We're watching Ex Machina, you asshole. | ||
| This guy's going to get killed by a robot lady. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Totally. | |
| Come on, aren't you interested in seeing how that even comes to be? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Shut the fuck up. | |
| She's about to kill him. | ||
| Troy was really angry the other day. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| Troy? | ||
| Are you talking about Troy when we're at the movies? | ||
| This is Avatar 2, motherfucker. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Shit's in three... | ||
| I'm wearing glasses. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Totally. | |
| That's the crazy thing. | ||
| Hey, you know, it's just coming out this fall. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't know. | |
| It's just really weird. | ||
| We're watching something now. | ||
| Who gives a fuck what's going to happen in the future? | ||
| You might not even be alive. | ||
| I might kill you for talking in the movie theater. | ||
| So, I know. | ||
| You have no idea how I'm going to react. | ||
| You're really taking a big risk. | ||
| Man, I'm really hungry. | ||
| Let's get something to eat after this. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| What? | ||
| That's later! | ||
| To people that can't even wait an hour to eat, like, no, I have to be filled now! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I need to fill my holes! | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You know, because your holes get lonely. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I need to fill my face hole with food immediately. | |
| I can't survive! | ||
| Yeah, that's tough, man. | ||
| That's a tough racket because some people, I don't know, I mean, obviously there are people that have this weird thing that happens when, you know, that hangry thing or whatever, their bloodshed, so then they kind of get crazy. | ||
| However, I will say, for the most part, it's about discipline. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the discipline turns into just nature and then you get a better sense of how... | ||
| If you are hungry, you're like, you know what? | ||
| I'm hungry and that's fine. | ||
| Yeah, you can be fine. | ||
| I'm going to be hungry. | ||
| I can live for a few days without food. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Days! | |
| So a few hours or like four hours extra, I'm going to be fine. | ||
| Did you hear about the guy that lost, like, more than 100 pounds by fasting for an entire year? | ||
| He had doctors monitoring him. | ||
| It was all part of some sort of scientific experiment. | ||
| And we were talking about him with Rob Wolf, correct? | ||
| Is that who was telling us about it? | ||
| Or was it Dom D'Agostino? | ||
| Wasn't it like in the 60s or something? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was fairly recently. | ||
| Yeah, fairly recently. | ||
| Because the doctors were monitoring him. | ||
| He lost over a hundred pounds, and here's what's really crazy. | ||
| His skin shrunk with him. | ||
| Like his body corrected for itself. | ||
| Which is like, what? | ||
| Because he went into a complete state of ketosis, right? | ||
| Where his body's only fuel was from the actual extra fat in his body. | ||
| And then when his body started consuming this, I mean he could have like really bizarre genetics where his skin doesn't stretch out. | ||
| This is it, right? | ||
| 450-pound man, fasted for a year, and he lost more than half his weight. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's it. | ||
| It happened in 1965. Oh, is that the same one? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| See if there's a recent one. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa. | |
| Because if Rob Lowe was talking about that, they had all these color photos of the guy that looked really recent. | ||
| Okay, I'll double check. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| But I think it was a recent. | ||
| Maybe they recreated it. | ||
| Maybe that's what it was. | ||
| But this guy, whatever it was, all he did... | ||
| Oh, is this the same one? | ||
| Yeah, same thing. | ||
| Same one? | ||
| All he did was drink water, and his body just ate its fat. | ||
| I don't know if he took vitamins or what. | ||
| He had to take some fiber, because he needs stuff to go through his system. | ||
| Damn, I wish Rob Wolf was here. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he's the one who told us about it. | ||
| What I think was the most shocking was that his skin shrunk, too. | ||
| That's the weird thing. | ||
| I mean, with weight loss, I lost about 55 pounds. | ||
| Damn, how'd you do that? | ||
| I just started lifting. | ||
| I got a trainer and started lifting and then basically eating like a bodybuilder. | ||
| And that's how I eat for the most part. | ||
| Do you feel better that way? | ||
| Oh man, way better. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Isn't it crazy? | ||
| People sometimes will look at the food that I'm bringing, which is always pretty much the same thing. | ||
| What are you eating? | ||
| Like, you know, like for breakfast, it's like this, what I call the, or what he calls the Yorgi shake, my trainer. | ||
| He has this shake that he digs, and it's like half kefir, half, or no, a cup of, yeah, a cup of oats, raw oats, half a cup of kefir, half a cup of water, and then 35 grams of J-Rob chocolate. | ||
| Egg white protein. | ||
| Oh, and a handful of frozen blueberries. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| So you've got a lot of good stuff going on there. | ||
| You've got antioxidants. | ||
| You've got probiotics from the kefir. | ||
| You've got some carbs from the oats. | ||
| You've got protein. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, we just eat good. | ||
| It's so funny because it's such a... | ||
| The problem is... | ||
| There's a lot of fucking dummies that also eat good and they're annoying. | ||
| And then for regular people that like want to be healthy but they don't want to be that annoying guy at the gym that's fucking just droning on and on about his sets and his lifts and you start thinking that being healthy is for idiots. | ||
| Yes, right? | ||
| I know it gives it a bad rap. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It does give it a bad rap. | |
| It's not that. | ||
| You know my favorite thing that I've been learning like lifting and sometimes I go to Gold's on Saturday like as a treat so like we go to Gold's in Venice And what I love about anything that I get involved with is just observing how the system works. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| The community. | ||
| Yeah, the community. | ||
| What's the level of awareness? | ||
| What are they focused on? | ||
| Those types of things. | ||
| And the thing I really dig about lifting is that it's not what you think. | ||
| I think people think, ah, meatheads, roided up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And don't get me wrong, there are some of those for sure. | ||
| And it wouldn't be a real gym without a couple, but... | ||
| You go into gold, and man, people are so respectful to one another. | ||
| Yeah, very friendly. | ||
| Very friendly, very respectful. | ||
| They rack their weights. | ||
| They re-rack if you're working in. | ||
| They get things out of the way. | ||
| They think about stuff being in the way or not. | ||
| There's a lot of really cool, conscious, hey, let me help you. | ||
| Oh, you know that lift that you're doing right there that's putting too much stress on your shoulder? | ||
| You might want to pull in a little bit with your elbow or whatever. | ||
| Just a tip, you know, something like that. | ||
| Those guys are great. | ||
| The guys that are annoying are the guys that want to correct you when they're wrong. | ||
| Oh, man, no. | ||
| Don't ever do that exercise. | ||
| No, you can't do that. | ||
| Okay, why would I do that? | ||
| You just can't do that. | ||
| There's guys that just have this idea in their head that they need to absolutely tell you their knowledge. | ||
| It must come out. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| And you can tell the difference. | ||
| Because if someone's giving you a small piece of corrective advice for an exercise that you're doing in the moment, or that you're doing, so it's not a critique of the exercise itself, It's more like, I'm looking at you doing this exercise, and here's a little piece that might make it more efficient. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| You know, and better use of your movement or whatever. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| And you can get that right away. | ||
| You're like, oh, that's dope. | ||
| I'll try that. | ||
| And if it works, it works. | ||
| If it doesn't, it doesn't. | ||
| But when someone's going off on these giant concepts, just things that are too large to give to someone that you don't know. | ||
| Right, and they just start firing it out at you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With all these physiological words. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Things that they've read in magazines. | ||
| They're like, what? | ||
| I don't even know what you're saying. | ||
| I don't even know what that word is. | ||
| I'm nodding because I don't want to look stupid. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, if we can. | ||
| Yeah, sure, man. | ||
| Yeah, thanks, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's all about isolating my scapula. | ||
| It's super important. | ||
| But my supraspinatus and all these words are like, oh, what are we doing here? | ||
| Your duogenum. | ||
| I feel like you're jerking off on me or something. | ||
| Jerking off on me with your knowledge. | ||
| Knowledge jerking. | ||
| There is knowledge jerking, right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
For sure. | |
| They definitely knowledge jerking on you. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| And it gets grouped in with mansplaining, which I think is like another form of, it's just a generalized, general human term. | ||
| Have you heard He-Pete? | ||
| It's a new one. | ||
| Oh, what's that? | ||
| He-Pete is when a woman says something and everybody ignores it, and the man says the exact same thing, and they go, oh, great idea. | ||
| That's fucked. | ||
| I know what that is, and that's fucked. | ||
| I do not like that. | ||
| There's nothing that pisses me off more. | ||
| It's like when someone's like, here, let me capitalize on an idea that was not really delivered at the right timing, you know, or whatever. | ||
| It's like, but I'm just going to claim responsibility. | ||
| Yeah, don't say, Debbie just had a great idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the difference between a good person and a cunty person. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Debbie just had a good idea as the good person. | ||
| Hey, everybody, Debbie just had a great idea. | ||
| The bad guy's like, I got a great idea. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| And Debbie's like, what the fuck? | ||
| Debbie doesn't know what to do. | ||
| Debbie's like, this fucking job sucks. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I knew this guy was an asshole. | ||
| Here's my proof. | ||
| That culture of like not like being in a corporate world and like one person is the boss and the other people have to kiss ass on the boss But then the boss has a boss the regional boss was coming by everybody tighten up. | ||
| Yep, and he's gonna put his good tie on The only time that system works is if the boss is a really Sure. | ||
| That's the only time, which is very, very rare. | ||
| Super rare. | ||
| Because they're playing against it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| Well, you have to exist while ignoring all the trappings of bosshood. | ||
| Yeah, right, right, right. | ||
| If you're just looking at, like... | ||
| Just from a rational, logistic, efficient-making mindset. | ||
| And what the value of efficiency also relates to the happiness of the workers and their well-being. | ||
| Not coddling too much, but providing just the right amount of things plus a little bit extra to give it the grease that it needs to feel good. | ||
| And also finding people to fill your team that are like-minded or willing to kind of think that way. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Where everybody kind of works together almost as a family. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| I'm sure those jobs exist. | ||
| I know I've talked to people that love their jobs. | ||
| I know there's people like that that are putting it together right. | ||
| I think that there are companies, and if not, there are moments when companies are like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, because everything changes, so it might not be sustainable. | ||
| If we keep going, I feel like people like to look at the worst aspects of any point in time, right? | ||
| Whether it's with climate change or a crazy presidential situation or race relations or whatever. | ||
| We always look at the worst aspects of it. | ||
| But I think, overall, it's pretty undeniable that this is the best time ever to be alive. | ||
| In terms of healthcare, in terms of the science behind keeping people alive, in terms of your ability to get information, in terms of our ability to communicate with each other, and bullshit to get through to us. | ||
| It's way less likely that bullshit gets through to people today than the propaganda they could spew just in the 1960s and get over on us. | ||
| That's the Gulf of Tonkin thing, the whole reason why we got into war. | ||
| So I just think that if we can keep it together and we can keep going, I think 40 years from now, 50 years from now, I think we're going to realize that that should be the norm. | ||
| And that the really healthy communities is going to be the norm. | ||
| And all these things, this is almost like aberrations that when we look back in time and think of people who were kings and they had people under them and they executed people at their own whim. | ||
| That only exists in a few places today. | ||
| It's like North Korea and maybe a couple other places. | ||
| I feel like in the future, we're all going to move towards it. | ||
| It's just hard to see while we're in it. | ||
| We're all moving towards a better way of living. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think of it, you know, if I go back to that, like the reality awareness issue or the idea that, you know, there are multiverses and that every choice splits off and makes another choice, makes another choice. | ||
| So in essence, if... | ||
| In essence, if anything is possible, if the amount of realities and possibilities that exist are infinite, but we're perceiving one point as a consciousness experiment or whatever you want to call it, but as your point of reference, as you move in every choice that you make, you can actually steer yourself to the reality that you want to live in. | ||
| I mean, I think that there's something great about seeing the trajectory of what you just described and moving towards that future. | ||
| But being proactive in the way that you can. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| Really, I think the thing that's really going to help all of that is energy. | ||
| Like, if we can figure out a way to distribute energy so that it's more equal amongst all human beings on the planet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You mean energy in terms of power, actual power, electrical power, solar, wind power? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I would feel like there's a lot of places in the earth that would benefit from some super advanced form of solar. | ||
| Yeah, free energy. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Why even ever have power plants? | ||
| Why have any of that stuff? | ||
| We can all be independent, and we don't have to rely on a grid either this way. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Distributed power is the best power, especially if it is connected, because then it can manage itself. | ||
| I mean, even with artificial intelligence and things like that, or just really good programming, it just optimizes constantly in real time based on a sensor array. | ||
| Well, you know, they use really good backcountry solar panels to charge batteries for cameras and batteries for phones. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| My friend Adam was in Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming. | ||
| He went on this epic backcountry hunt, and one of the things that he did is he brought this solar thing to charge his phone every day, and he would do Insta stories from the top of the mountain. | ||
| Amazing, amazing stuff, but... | ||
| You couldn't do that just a few years ago. | ||
| I mean, there wasn't the kind of solar power that you could pack up in a little thing and stuff into your backpack. | ||
| I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Yeah, I was checking out. | ||
| There's a company out of Australia that makes these solar generators, and they're like 17 grand or something like that, or maybe even... | ||
| Oh, no, they might even be more, like 30 grand or something. | ||
| Anyways, it's this fairly lightweight system. | ||
| It's like a mast system that has a base and a solar array, and it tracks the sun. | ||
| So it moves automatically with the sun and it also has some other pre-programmed weather data that's also integrated into it, either real-time or stored. | ||
| But it's able to produce a pretty decent amount of electricity. | ||
| I don't remember the numbers, but it was definitely way more than a trickle charge. | ||
| You could run a refrigeration system on it, like a small refrigeration system. | ||
| So you could keep food from perishing and maybe even get some air conditioning going or something. | ||
| Yeah, with a storage battery. | ||
| I think 20 years from now, who knows how crazy this shit is going to be. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, I just got done seeing that documentary. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't remember the name of it, but it's a kind of conspiracy UFO documentary. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Is it a fairly recent one? | ||
| Yeah, it's fairly recent. | ||
| Is it Dr. Stephen Greer, that guy? | ||
| Not sure. | ||
| It's on iTunes. | ||
| It's featured on iTunes. | ||
| Do you remember the name of it? | ||
| I can find it. | ||
| Like the unknown or something? | ||
| Yeah, that seems right. | ||
| Unacknowledged? | ||
| Yeah, unacknowledged. | ||
| Did you like it? | ||
| There's Art Belly. | ||
| It was kind of Art Belly, actually. | ||
| Art Belly. | ||
| Those are tough shows for me to watch because it makes sense... | ||
| Like, some of the stuff that they're talking about? | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| But my theory is that the level of organization that they're talking about doesn't really exist. | ||
| Like, it's not that tight. | ||
| I think it's kind of messy. | ||
| I think it's the same thing, like, just look at kids on a playground and see how they organize themselves socially. | ||
| And then just expand that with a little bit more complexity, and you have this idea of the structure of secrecy and ancient cults that have now risen to Rosicrucians and Masons and the Illuminati and those types of things. | ||
| I think that they can exist. | ||
| Like, that sort of thing does exist, but it doesn't exist in the tight, efficient, controlled version. | ||
| I think it's messier than that. | ||
| I think it's people trying to influence other people using a bunch of tactics. | ||
| But I think that you can't have control. | ||
| You can't have that much control, as much control as they're talking about. | ||
| Well, the only way that would work is if the government was different than people. | ||
| Right, if it wasn't made of people? | ||
| If the government wasn't people, if they were so smart that they weren't people, then that could be possible. | ||
| But obviously, that's not the case. | ||
| Donald Trump is the fucking president, so we have proof that the government is filled with people. | ||
| That guy's a person. | ||
| You know, for sure. | ||
| He's so person. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, no person has ever been able to pull off that level of conspiracy for any length of time. | ||
| And the idea that you could hide, somehow, communication with aliens. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that the aliens would choose the government of all people. | ||
| Why would the aliens give a fuck who we picked in our popularity contest? | ||
| Oh, that's the representative that gets to speak to Zeta Reticuli? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| They talk to whoever they want. | ||
| It's like, do we go and check when we visit a bee colony? | ||
| Excuse me, may I speak to the queen? | ||
| And we stick our fucking hived up hands in there. | ||
| With careful secret contact. | ||
| We just suck some bees out with a vacuum and take them to a lab to test them. | ||
| Hey guys, listen, I need you to go back to the queen and ask. | ||
| We need to go to the king. | ||
| Can you imagine some fucking dude sitting in the White House, you know, at the Oval Office and the alien walks in. | ||
| I am the representative of... | ||
| I mean, this is like a 1940s movie, right? | ||
| It just doesn't make any sense. | ||
| I believe in so many things, infinitely, that things can exist and things are possible. | ||
| However, there are things that are just like, it just makes sense. | ||
| You know it intuitively. | ||
| You can feel a connection to it where you're like, you know what? | ||
| I'll leave a 10% margin of possibility. | ||
| You know, something like that. | ||
| But there are ideas where I'm like, I can't. | ||
| I just can't. | ||
| It could be real, but I've seen nothing that compels me to believe that it is. | ||
| But it could be real. | ||
| I'm definitely not saying there are no aliens, or the government hasn't been contacted by aliens, or the aliens haven't visited Earth. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| We would do it. | ||
| I mean, I don't think it's impossible, but again, I think it's not to the extent at which, when you compress all the data and you formulate a story about it. | ||
| Highly unlikely. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, well, I don't know. | ||
| It seems you kind of have to do that. | ||
| Like, you can't talk about that stuff broadly. | ||
| It also seems super likely to me that in the future we won't send biological entities into these places that have all these limitations as far as, like, what we can survive. | ||
| We'll send some sort of an artificial intelligence. | ||
| Maybe that's what those things are. | ||
| Those gray things with the big black eyes. | ||
| Maybe those are robots. | ||
| Oh man, but then the question is, my theory is that the whole propulsion or compulsion to constantly be making technology is based on our desire to make or build ourselves outside of ourselves. | ||
| So without the normal biological means, it's like we're fascinated at simulating ourselves outside of ourselves. | ||
| And so, in essence, we could just be that already. | ||
| And so it's like we're just like on this constant carrot-chasing propulsion system. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of people that when they look at the image of the alien, they look at that image and they say that it's entirely preposterous that someone would achieve or something would achieve a humanoid-like shape with all the massive amounts of different shapes that we have on Earth. | ||
| Yes, right. | ||
| Just to be mobile, that's not the only way to be mobile. | ||
| No. | ||
| We know how ours came to be, that we used to be crawling and then we started standing upright. | ||
| That's why we have all these issues with our spine. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Our spine wasn't entirely designed to support upper body weight. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, and the other thing is, it's one of my pet peeves, and I'm just putting this in the spectrum of science fiction. | ||
| Every celestial body, every planet, every moon, they all have different gravities. | ||
| So there's going to be different types of creatures. | ||
| Not only that, but when they come to our planet, they're going to need a really strong exoskeleton suit. | ||
| Or they're going to be so incredibly strong that it wouldn't matter. | ||
| Atmospheric gases, like how they produce energy. | ||
| There's such a vast complexity that life is the way that it is now because of all the elements that were present at the times that they were present in our reality. | ||
| And so, and even if you take it on a software level, like something like, what was that game Spore, where it was built on a generative idea. | ||
| You can create entire universes. | ||
| Yeah, and they would kind of create on their own, based on your light touches. | ||
| And it would be infinite. | ||
| Jamie, didn't you say that got boring, though, because there's really nothing happening in these infinite universes? | ||
| That was a newer game. | ||
| Oh, that's No Man's Sky? | ||
| Yep, yep, yep. | ||
| No Man's Sky. | ||
| So a similar idea? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| You have to really... | ||
| You know, the problem with those things is... | ||
| I know we're jumping around a lot, but it just... | ||
| That's the whole show. | ||
| Oh, that is the show? | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Yeah, we jump around, man. | ||
| You're like, okay, so when should we start? | ||
| We talk about whatever. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Good. | |
| I like it. | ||
| There ain't no rules. | ||
| I'll show you sports, yeah. | ||
| Um, so when you, oh, so this is, what is this? | ||
| These are creatures. | ||
| This came out like probably 10, 15 years ago. | ||
| Whoa, this is dope. | ||
| It starts super small as little one-celled organisms and works all the way up to an organism getting on land and then you're really running a whole planet. | ||
| So when these things are happening, do these little fuckers evolve? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, they evolve. | ||
| Oh, you can design them? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| And what are your tasks? | ||
| Oh, you have to fight ants here. | ||
| Eat, survive, whatever earth. | ||
| You can get lost in these fucking things, man. | ||
| Then you can, yeah, see, and now there's like tribal culture with hierarchical leadership. | ||
| Now, are these other things you're interacting with artificial or are they other humans? | ||
| This game is all, yeah, this was kind of pre-multiplayer online stuff. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, so basically you evolve all the way to spacefaring. | ||
| Dude, they're so cool looking. | ||
| They beat the fuck out of each other with sticks, though. | ||
| They've got to get past that shit, man. | ||
| See, that's the thing. | ||
| That's why I call human beings, the human race, a simulation species. | ||
| It's like everything that we do, we generate our ideas. | ||
| They're all based on our observation of the world around us and then utilizing that in some way for ourselves. | ||
| And so, like, you know, design of things, why we color things the way they are, certain chemicals, or why things are, you know, look the way they look, or they're shaped the way they're shaped, all of that. | ||
| So when I see a game about simulation, of course, we're going to make a game about simulations. | ||
| Arguably, like, children playing with dolls and figures and stuff like that's another form of simulation. | ||
| But the idea of, like, having the awareness of another reality and... | ||
| Projecting the idea that you want with bigger, I guess, more control. | ||
| Having control over a representation of your idea of a desired reality is crazy. | ||
| I mean, that's like simulation within simulation within simulation. | ||
| It's totally, to me, a nice piece of evidence for that. | ||
| Yeah, I think we're going to get better at it, and it's going to get indiscernible. | ||
| You're going to be able to put some headphones on, and they're going to plug some stuff, maybe put some of those greasy pads with the wires. | ||
| Yeah, some wetware. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to put that stuff connected to your head in all these various places. | ||
| They're going to hook you up with this machine, and you're going to go somewhere that's so much cooler than reality. | ||
| You're going to be like, fuck reality, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You're going to go and do your stupid job at Home Depot, and you're like... | ||
| Fuck this job! | ||
| And you're gonna come home, and you're gonna put that thing on, and you're gonna realize, I have to figure out a way to stay in here. | ||
| I have to stay in this world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Surrogate? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| It's Tron world. | ||
| What's Surrogate? | ||
| Surrogate, the movie... | ||
| Bruce Willis? | ||
| Oh yeah, that's right. | ||
| I remember that movie. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| It's all about telepresence. | ||
| Some people were just in pods. | ||
| But they had a robot body of them when they were younger. | ||
| That's right! | ||
| And there were people jumping off of buildings and shit because there were no consequences. | ||
| Is that what they looked like underneath? | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whoa, freaky. | ||
| She's hot, though. | ||
| Surrogate. | ||
| Bruce Willis. | ||
| Yeah, Bruce Willis was younger. | ||
| That was like one of the first uses of CGI, too, to make someone younger in a movie. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| Look how beautiful his skin looked. | ||
| Yeah, very smooth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Super smooth. | ||
| They just did that recently with Guardians of the Galaxy 2. With who? | ||
| Kurt Russell. | ||
| Kurt Russell is the bad guy. | ||
| You know the one time that I noticed the most was Tron. | ||
| The Neutron. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's where they like, I remember that being like, espoused as like, this breakthrough. | ||
| I mean, it's Benjamin Button. | ||
| It looked faked as fuck. | ||
| It looked fake as fuck. | ||
| I mean, it wasn't a simulation, but even the fact that it wasn't a simulation, a video game, still looked fake within the video game. | ||
| Kurt Russell, though, looked amazing. | ||
| Look at that dimple. | ||
| Dude, he looked perfect. | ||
| I mean, he looked really good. | ||
| Oh, he looks... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| No, that looks... | ||
| He looks like a 35-year-old Kurt Russell. | ||
| Yeah, that looks wonderful. | ||
| That looks great. | ||
| Dude, he's really good. | ||
| And the movies... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Natural. | |
| Fun as shit, too, man. | ||
| Oh, it's like... | ||
| You talking about two? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I... You know, the one thing that really pissed me off was that... | ||
| Baby Groot. | ||
| I hate when they put baby characters. | ||
| I can't stand it. | ||
| It's so obvious. | ||
| It's such an obvious play. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| It is obvious. | ||
| Even Mork and Mindy when they added Jonathan Winters. | ||
| Don't be afraid of obvious things that are awesome. | ||
| Like big tits. | ||
| They worked once. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's a totally different thing, man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's a totally different thing. | |
| But obvious things that are awesome. | ||
| There's another, I know that little baby Groot was cute. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| I could not stand that opening sequence with like the, he's like being casual and he's taking out all the bad guys. | ||
| I'm like, that's so gross. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| Oh, when he was singing? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, like, it's the opening sequence. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I loved it. | ||
| Man, I couldn't, I didn't, I didn't know. | ||
| You know what, though, dude? | ||
| I'm a dork for comic books, man. | ||
| I've always been a dork for comic books and comic book movies. | ||
| I'll make fun of people for liking pro wrestling. | ||
| Like, Hook, you know what's happening. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You know it's fake. | |
| You know it's fake. | ||
| And they're like, I know it's fake. | ||
| That's not the point. | ||
| Because Game of Thrones is fake, too. | ||
| And we'll go back and forth. | ||
| Meanwhile... | ||
| I'll get fucking thrilled when Bruce Banner turns into the Hulk. | ||
| Oh, I love that shit. | ||
| Yeah, I get amped up. | ||
| Oh, I love that. | ||
| That I have no problem with. | ||
| That's so corny, though. | ||
| No, that's not corny. | ||
| You shouldn't make me angry. | ||
| You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. | ||
| I love that shit. | ||
| I always do that. | ||
| Have you ever heard that... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Could you imagine? | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| A British comedian. | ||
| Really brilliant kind of alt guy. | ||
| Did Jerry Springer the musical. | ||
| And it didn't take off. | ||
| And there are all these Christians protesting it. | ||
| They're protesting his musical? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It was crazy. | |
| It was really big. | ||
| And it didn't happen or something like that. | ||
| The theater decided not to do it. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| Oh, that's fine. | ||
| Rich... | ||
| God, that's so crazy. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Richard Thomas? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| No, Richard Thomas. | ||
| He's got a program right now. | ||
| He's on TV and the BBC. But anyways, he's this brilliant... | ||
| He has a joke about Ang Lee. | ||
| The guy who did the Hulk? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And his whole thing is just insane. | ||
| It's a long joke. | ||
| It takes like seven minutes. | ||
| The setup is just him talking about how he worked with Ang Lee. | ||
| And at the end of this interview, he said, Ang Lee, you wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| And Ang Lee not getting it. | ||
| And then him explaining the whole lead-up back to that again. | ||
| And then Ang Lee not getting it and then explaining it again. | ||
| And it just goes... | ||
| I think I'm remembering it right. | ||
| But it's just brilliant. | ||
| And it's such an abstract, weird slice of a way to get to a punchline. | ||
| And it's just... | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| A Hulk punchline. | ||
| It's a Hulk. | ||
| Of arguably the worst Hulk movie of all of them. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| The Eric Bana one. | ||
| I loved him in Chopper, but I didn't love him as Bruce Banner. | ||
| Yeah, even though his last name was Banna, and I thought that's pretty close to Banner, I didn't do it. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| What fucked me on that movie? | ||
| I went to see it high. | ||
| And when you go to see high movies, bad movies just are offensive when you're high. | ||
| You're like, what? | ||
| What are you making me believe? | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| I know. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What is this? | |
| I'm aware of the illusion you're casting, wizard. | ||
| Yeah, that's a problem. | ||
| Maybe they had Hulk dogs in that one. | ||
| Yeah, I did in the Cerebus. | ||
| It was like the three or two-headed dogs. | ||
| Was that two-headed? | ||
| I remember it was a Hulk dog. | ||
| I don't know if it had more than one head. | ||
| I think it had more than one head. | ||
| I think. | ||
| Because it was... | ||
| Nick Nolte's dogs, he was the dad, remember? | ||
| He was the scientist dad? | ||
| Yeah, that's right, yeah. | ||
| He turned into a jellyfish. | ||
| Is that the one where he turned into a jellyfish at the end? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Did he? | |
| He had jellyfish DNA. Oh, there's the Hulk dogs. | ||
| Look at them. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no, they weren't. | ||
| Hulked out poodle and a Hulked out pit bull. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| What a weird... | ||
| Look at them. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| What a strange... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Like, these are the creatures they're gonna be facing. | |
| Yeah, Hulked out poodle. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Yeah, remember that happened? | ||
| It essentially turned into the Hulk versus a Hulk dog. | ||
| So when the dogs would get fired up, the same thing would happen to them as happened to the Hulk. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hulk dogs. | |
| And didn't he get bigger? | ||
| Look at that thing biting him on the back. | ||
| And didn't he get bigger depending upon how much fucked up shit was happening in his life? | ||
| Like if they shot him with bullets, he kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger? | ||
| Yeah, maybe that. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Yeah, because he just keeps absorbing the energy. | ||
| Yeah, and getting matter, too. | ||
| And he's got matter. | ||
| He just kept getting bigger. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Could you fucking imagine, like, of all the superpowers, that's the one that I think so appeals to kids like me when I was young, when I was little and worried about the world and nervous and, you know, you get picked on. | ||
| You're like, how cool would it be? | ||
| To just be able to just get angry and all of a sudden become this bulletproof thing that can leap through the air. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's like freedom. | ||
| Like, max freedom. | ||
| But it was so corny, like the words that he would say, that they... | ||
| You could only read it. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| As a comic book, when you're reading a comic book, that's different than when you hear people speaking. | ||
| Yeah, like, even in the Avengers, when he takes, what is it, Loki? | ||
| Yeah, Loki. | ||
| Loki, and he beats the fuck out of him, and he's like, puny human. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know, it's just, no, man. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But if you saw a 1970s Hulk... | ||
| Lou Ferrigno? | ||
| I mean comic, like comic from the 70s, and just like, he's beating the fuck out of Loki, and Loki's kind of like, ugh, kind of fucked up, and Hulk is just motionless, and then it said that. | ||
| He'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| He would say that. | ||
| He would definitely say that, and that's cool. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of things you could only read people saying. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You're just like, Anticap. | ||
| I mean, no one says, titch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, Anticap. | ||
| Wow, that's a blast from the past. | ||
| Titch. | ||
| Is there any more popular cartoons? | ||
| Are there any more Dilberts out there in the world? | ||
| Do you mean, like, hand-drawn? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Comic strips? | ||
| Are there ones that people, like, look forward to every day? | ||
| There must be. | ||
| You're about to hear something from Twitter. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Get ready. | ||
| I mean, You'd have to read the newspaper probably, right? | ||
| Right, but who the fuck reads newspapers anymore? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Yeah, and online publications, unless it's The New Yorker, usually don't do comic strips. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just the articles. | ||
| And if they do, it's probably like a one-off by an artist rather than a series like Andy Kapp or Dilbert. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| It's maybe a one-off with Obama and Trump standing next to each other talking or something like that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, exactly. | |
| It's just a picture. | ||
| It's like Playboy style. | ||
|
unidentified
|
One picture, a punchline, a joke underneath. | |
| Yeah, I remember those Playboy ones. | ||
| We were like, whoa, this is crazy. | ||
| I was a little kid. | ||
| I'd get a hold of them and be like, what in the fuck am I reading? | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's a girl with her tits popping out and the guy's trying to grab her. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| And it's humor. | ||
| It's like adult humor. | ||
| It's adult humor, but today it's totally rape culture. | ||
| There's a lot of shit that was in Playboy magazine and those ads that if you saw, or those cartoons rather, that you saw today, you'd be like, you can't print this. | ||
| There's no fucking way. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| I mean, is it as bad? | ||
| No, it is. | ||
| I was just going to say, is it as bad as Mickey Rooney and Breakfast at Tiffany's? | ||
| I don't remember that movie. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, watch it, but as soon as Mickey Rooney's character comes on... | ||
| I might not have ever seen that, which doesn't make sense to me. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No, it makes sense. | ||
| Breakfast at Tiffany's is like one of those movies you hear about all the time, but you may not ever see it. | ||
| Yeah, that might be the case. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I might not have ever seen it. | ||
| I remember trying to see it, and I couldn't finish it because of Mickey Rooney. | ||
| Oh, he's just a douche in it? | ||
| He plays a Chinese man. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| That's right! | ||
| Oh, no, Japanese. | ||
| Is he Japanese? | ||
| He's Japanese. | ||
| Yeah, that's Japanese. | ||
| Or is he wearing a Japanese thing saying he's Chinese? | ||
| It says, Mr. Yunyoshi. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Definitely Japanese, yeah. | ||
| Okay, so at least I thought it was going to get really terrible with, like, mixing Asian cultures. | ||
| But apparently... | ||
| You remember when Katy Perry had to apologize for wearing a kimono? | ||
| Because people felt like it was offensive to Japanese people that she was culturally appropriating. | ||
| She, like, had this big sit-down with... | ||
| But what about Bjork? | ||
| I don't know about her. | ||
| Bjerken, the one of her album covers. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| But that was a different time when it was acceptable. | ||
| Oh, you're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Today it's no longer... | ||
| It's grandmother day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So she had apologized. | ||
| And when she was apologizing, Remember, she made this video that will make your fucking brain hurt. | ||
| She's sitting there with Doreen Mackeson from Black Lives Matter, and they're sitting on a couch, cross-legged, with their shoes off, which, by the way, nobody knows. | ||
| You sit down like that with me, I'm like, hey, what are we doing here? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, that's... | |
| Trying to be comfortable? | ||
| Well, this is definitely a terrible setup. | ||
| How about we just give us a comfy chair? | ||
| Sit here and talk to each other like fucking humans. | ||
| It would be different if they were on kind of organic-looking furniture and they were dressed more as human people. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, she was addressing her hair. | ||
| This was the thing. | ||
| She had to dress her hair because she did something where she had braids. | ||
| And people are getting mad at her because she culturally appropriated and then she also addressed her idea of dressing up like a geisha. | ||
| So the problem is, when they went over and talked to people, geishas are from... | ||
| Where are geishas from? | ||
| Why do I want to say China? | ||
| No, it's Japan. | ||
| Yeah, it is Japan, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's like the thing that people just don't understand. | ||
| So they went over there. | ||
| Yeah, there's the braids. | ||
| She had to apologize for braids. | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| It's her. | ||
| It's Katy Perry. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| What? | ||
| She look good there. | ||
| She look good. | ||
| She look good there. | ||
| So they went over to Japan to talk to these folks and they universally were saying when they interviewed people in the street that they're happy that someone is expressing Japanese culture and that they're aware of Japanese culture and they thought it was a very good thing. | ||
| They didn't think it was bad at all. | ||
| They don't have the same feelings about cultural appropriation as some people do with fucking braids. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I get it. | ||
| But it's the United States. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're sensitive. | ||
| We're super sensitive. | ||
| We've gotten very sensitive. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| It all comes from the litigious culture. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Do you think so? | |
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| The fact that you can get sued for anything, anybody can sue you at any time, that's just like, that's American culture. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| It's like, you know what? | ||
| You pissed off someone? | ||
| Like, enough? | ||
| You can sue them. | ||
| And so there's a lot of like suing, suing, suing, enough successful cases along the way. | ||
| That's part of, it's like a fear-based operating system. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Calling people on shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe they didn't even think was bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like a combination of like someone like, it's a good service to be able to sue someone if you needed to. | ||
| However, it's abused up the yin-yang and there's like professional lawyers that have billboards everywhere. | ||
| But do you think Katy Perry was worried about being sued? | ||
| No, I'm saying that the sensitivity issue, like why American culture is so PC at this point, because it kind of goes hand in hand. | ||
| It's like a sense of... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm at a loss of words. | ||
| I'm a little bit too stoned. | ||
| But I will say, having that litigious, fear-based kind of motivator, it causes people to want to correct things. | ||
| To course correct to a form of something that works for everyone. | ||
| To avoid being sued. | ||
| I mean, not directly. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Not directly. | ||
| But that thought process? | ||
| Yeah, that mindset. | ||
| Yeah, that mindset, I think. | ||
| Because it's about like, okay, well, how can we make this? | ||
| We have to include everybody on this, which I believe in, but absolutely. | ||
| But I think it should be done out of a sense of... | ||
| Empathy. | ||
| And not to say that people fighting for rights to have handicapped parking in the front of a building, that's just a great idea. | ||
| But I'm just saying that what you were kind of referring to, that sensitivity comes from that, where someone's afraid of doing something wrong. | ||
| And it just starts feeding back and feeding back and feeding back. | ||
| And then you get people so fearful of any choice that they're making. | ||
| Because I feel it, you know, every time I walk into a grocery store, I'm like, this entire store could be reduced to 5% the volume that it is right now, and the amount of people in that store would have all the products they need. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the inundation of choice, choice, choice, choice, choice, and fear of doing something wrong, whether it's because I want it to look perfect, or I want to look perfect, or whatever it is. | ||
| Mix that all together and it's a recipe for... | ||
| It's a problem for sure. | ||
| I think another factor though is that people get to complain and that people don't like when people are mad at them So when you have a giant group of people that can communicate instantaneously with with anybody at any time you're going to get More prevalence of complaining. | ||
| It's the same percentage of people are complaining, but they weren't able to access everyone as they were to get to Katy Perry and bitch about her wearing braids, right? | ||
| So in the past, like in the Bo Derek days, when Bo Derek wore braids in 10, which is really back before nobody was wearing those cornrows. | ||
| No one had seen that. | ||
| Not on that level. | ||
| I mean, was that a thing in black culture back then, the Bo Derek days? | ||
| What do you mean, like braids? | ||
| Yeah, like those, like cornrows? | ||
| I think since the slave days, since Africa. | ||
| Since the slave days? | ||
| Yeah, but braids have also been in almost every culture. | ||
| Right, braids for sure, but those crazy cornrows like that, when you think those... | ||
| That was a direct reference, I think, to Caribbean... | ||
| She was spooky hot. | ||
| She would ruin your life. | ||
| She was next door? | ||
| She wouldn't get anything done if you were banging her. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Because you would have to keep an eye on her all the time. | ||
| Where are you going? | ||
| Stay put. | ||
| I mean, but at the same time, if you learn to be completely confident next to someone like that... | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| That's like max confidence. | ||
| Good fucking luck. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Good luck. | |
| You and I can't pull it off. | ||
| I mean, you couldn't hold it all the time. | ||
| You couldn't hold it all the time. | ||
| I would have problems. | ||
| You'd have to not want a fucker. | ||
| You'd have to be married and happy and successful and not want a fucker. | ||
| And really just be comfortable being around. | ||
| You think just because you'd want to have sex all the time? | ||
| Just the possibility. | ||
| The possibility that you could fuck someone that's that hot is always a problem for men. | ||
| Especially back then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think the initial... | ||
| Making a move and all that stuff. | ||
| But I think, obviously, if you got used to someone and their personality, it starts to calibrate. | ||
| She would make you a better person. | ||
| You'd be a better person if you were around her. | ||
| She could if she were great. | ||
|
unidentified
|
She could if she had a great attitude and she was a positive person. | |
| Right, you just wanted to like you more. | ||
| Or maybe not. | ||
| Yeah, right, right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I'm just saying, like, I know what you're saying, but I'm like, at the same time, I take that as a personal challenge. | ||
| Be like, okay, fine, how can I feel confident? | ||
|
unidentified
|
I can do it. | |
| I can be confident around her. | ||
| Set it up. | ||
| I trust you. | ||
| I trust me. | ||
| Everything's going to be totally cool. | ||
| I really think that this complaining thing is what's going on. | ||
| Nobody likes to have people mad at them. | ||
| And that's why people get mad at people. | ||
| That's why people get mad at people over nothing. | ||
| They love to find someone who fucked up and get mad. | ||
| We were talking about this yesterday, the Anthony Bourdain casual response that he had at the airport by TMZ that became this huge thing where they said, if you had to serve dinner to Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump, what would you serve? | ||
| He goes, hemlock. | ||
| And then he walks away. | ||
| Which is hilarious. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Perfect timing. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| It's a one line. | ||
| It's a joke, you folks. | ||
| Very well done. | ||
| And then I was reading all the responses on TMZ about, you know, get the Secret Service on him. | ||
| He's threatening POTUS. You know, like, oh, it's really... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| It's like they... | ||
| If you are really offended by that, really offended by that, you are such a monumental pussy that you don't deserve to have an opinion on things. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Like, if that really bothered you to your core, I can't believe he's threatening POTUS. Like, you are such a fucking baby that you shouldn't be allowed to talk about things. | ||
| Your opinion, it can't get in. | ||
| It can't get in. | ||
| You're not allowed. | ||
| And there was hundreds of those people that were commenting on the TMZ thing. | ||
| And I realized, like, this is just a consequence of people being able to communicate openly with anybody. | ||
| So, because of that, you're getting... | ||
| In the moment that they're feeling it. | ||
| Yes, and you're getting so many people whose opinions just you don't care for, you don't want to hear, you don't appreciate or respect their intellect, and they're spouting out nonsense. | ||
| But if you're a person who has to hear that, it hurts. | ||
| If you read something that's saying, someone's saying really mean shit about Katy Perry and her hair, this fucking bitch thinks she's going to appropriate black culture and this and that, you know, fuck you ho, and she starts reading that. | ||
| The panic that sets in, thinking that poor Katy Perry, there's bodyguards with fucking machine guns looking out the windows, and Katy Perry is in her Beverly Hills mansion, and all these girls are like, I'll fucking cut you, ho! | ||
| Oh no, they're gonna cut me! | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| She's like a little water balloon walking around her Beverly Hills mansion with her soft, soft body. | ||
| So worried. | ||
| That's tough, man. | ||
| This fucking bitch thinks she can take our hair? | ||
| Fuck you, bitch! | ||
| Has she said that she's worried about that stuff? | ||
| No, I'm just making stories. | ||
| I'm just formulating a scenario. | ||
| This is like drama here. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| I mean, for me, I read almost all tweets. | ||
| Because there's not that many, actually, in mentions. | ||
| So you read almost all the ones that come to you? | ||
| You should have never said that. | ||
| You fucked up, son. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, I tell people, I've told the people that before. | ||
| I mean, I'm not responding to all of them. | ||
| And I might not get everyone, but I'm just saying, in general, it's not that bad. | ||
| Like, it's like, I can actually read through a lot. | ||
| And it's always interesting, like, if someone brings up a point, sometimes they'll attack at a really hostile angle. | ||
| Like, at first, they'll be like, you know, you're not funny, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. | ||
| And I'll be like... | ||
| So I'll either do two things. | ||
| I'll either, like, answer it in an interesting way that kind of addresses their point. | ||
| Or... | ||
| Or I'll be like, okay, why do you feel this way? | ||
| And then talk about it through a few exchanges. | ||
| And oftentimes at the end of it, someone's like, oh, thanks for taking the time. | ||
| I'll be like, oh yeah, no problem. | ||
| I was just wondering what you meant. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| I like criticism. | ||
| I don't mind criticism. | ||
| I'm not going to be like, if I had a shitty show and someone was like, yeah, it wasn't so great. | ||
| I'd be like, you know what? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It wasn't that great. | ||
| Which I love. | ||
| I love having that dialogue and just being like... | ||
| Some things I don't answer, but most things, if it has a good point, I'll go for it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the ability to communicate with people has its pros and cons, for sure. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And there's a lot of pros. | ||
| You've got to be able to moderate yourself, and you've got to create some filters, and understand how to just process something very quickly, and just be like, is this worth Energy or not? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No energy. | ||
| When you're someone like Katy Perry, too, you're riding on this wave of popularity. | ||
| I mean, it's not to say that she's not talented. | ||
| She certainly is a talented singer and performer, but a big part of who she is relies on her attractiveness and her cultural relevance, like how famous she is right now. | ||
| I mean, she's not like... | ||
| We're not talking about like... | ||
| You know, Liz Phair or Cat Power or someone who's just like only doing their shit. | ||
| Yeah, someone who's only doing their shit and you either like it or you don't like it. | ||
| No, she's like, she's a rocket ship. | ||
| She's a pop star. | ||
| Yeah, she's a pop star through culture. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What are you showing me here? | ||
| 100 million followers. | ||
| 104 million followers on Twitter. | ||
| I'd like you to do a Twitter audit on that because I'm not buying 104. I'll buy 85. The David Bowie image is pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| I guess that was probably in... | ||
| It's really well done. | ||
| ...in cultural appropriation. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah! | |
| That's what that was. | ||
| She's got mostly real... | ||
| Appropriating British culture. | ||
| ...nope, mostly fake. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Fifty-eight million fake. | ||
| So she... | ||
| Katy Perry, you fucking hoe. | ||
| I don't mean that, Katie. | ||
| Katie, I'm just joking around. | ||
| Don't get mad at me. | ||
| We could sit on a couch together with no shoes on, and we'll work through this. | ||
| Your count's fake. | ||
| I'll have to wear booties, though. | ||
| Or maybe Uggs. | ||
| You know what I'll wear? | ||
| I'll make everybody uncomfortable and wear those five-finger Vibrams. | ||
| Oh, please never do that. | ||
| I wear them all the time? | ||
| Never do it. | ||
| Even 43 million real is... | ||
| Get some fake toes for the front of it. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| Snap on toast. | ||
| What did you say? | ||
| I said even 43 million real ones is a fucking shit. | ||
| No, no, it's not a lot. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Of course. | |
| If you would have said 44, I would have been like, absolutely. | ||
| But 43, fuck that. | ||
| Listen, yeah, I just, it might not even be her fault. | ||
| It might be that she's so famous she attracts fake bots and accounts. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure. | ||
| That's all being. | ||
| Just joking around. | ||
| But there was a thing recently about Donald Trump's Twitter followers went up by 30 million or some crazy shit. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Wasn't it something like that? | ||
| Like, real quick? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| And people were like, those are all bots. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's all artificial inflation. | ||
| Well, it's like the king has no clothes. | ||
| But, you know, the thing before that, what you were saying about pop star, like, you know, on how you look and your relevance, that's absolutely true. | ||
| And that's the thing I always feel for, in a way. | ||
| I feel for people that base their careers on that. | ||
| Because... | ||
| There's a way you can always transition, for sure. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| You could do it. | ||
| But when you're someone like Joni Mitchell, who both was very striking, but obviously involved in the music that she made, she was responsible for what she was making, and you knew that it was her, her. | ||
| Whereas a pop star is like, I don't know, they're using Stargate from Sweden. | ||
| They're using the writing team. | ||
| A writing team from Australia, they're using, like, whatever. | ||
| You never know who's involved. | ||
| And sometimes, maybe she writes her things, because I know that she plays guitar and writes original music. | ||
| Well, that's the thing about... | ||
| What's the skinny chick? | ||
| Back in the day. | ||
| Taylor Swift. | ||
| The thing that people enjoy about... | ||
| The skinny chick. | ||
| Sorry, Taylor. | ||
| The thing that people really enjoy about Taylor Swift is that she is a songwriter. | ||
| She writes her... | ||
| She composes her own stuff. | ||
| There's a vast majority that is getting angry at ex-boyfriends, but hey, that's her prerogative. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's what she likes to do. | |
| She's a young gal. | ||
| She's very sensitive. | ||
| And that happened to her. | ||
| Don't break her heart, bitch. | ||
| She'll write a song about you. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Or someone just might, just because they want that. | ||
| They value that over the relationship. | ||
| Yeah, they were just going for that. | ||
| Just trying to get that Kardashian thing going on. | ||
| Trying to get a little fame off that song. | ||
| Throw some bad dick away. | ||
| Get her angry enough to put pen to paper. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Mm-hmm. | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Hey, it's a strat. | ||
| She'll fuck you up with a song, though, dude. | ||
| She comes hard. | ||
| Don't let it happen. | ||
| She throws haymakers. | ||
| Is that about John Mayer? | ||
| I mean, Johnny Mitchell did that, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A lot of them did that. | ||
| Or no, Carly Simon. | ||
| Carly Simon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're so vain. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You probably think this song is about you. | |
| You're so vain. | ||
| You're so vain. | ||
|
unidentified
|
This song is about you, don't you, don't you. | |
| You walked into the party like you were walking into a yacht. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| That's a girl that's mad she's not getting that good dick anymore. | ||
| Angry, he's got other choices. | ||
| Angry, he's decided to just live his life as a sexual vagabond. | ||
| You can't just accept him for the freak that he is. | ||
| Just let him just wander through the world. | ||
| It's okay, like you had a brief time with him. | ||
| But no, people, when they fuck, they want to own. | ||
| They own each other, you know? | ||
| Or he might have been vain. | ||
| Well, you know, he might have just been a liar. | ||
| Ooh, yeah. | ||
| Or he might have been annoying. | ||
| Because then it's like, well, it's not really about that. | ||
| You know, it's like, what was the thing that happened with Kevin Hart recently? | ||
|
unidentified
|
What happened? | |
| He just got in front of it. | ||
| Like, there was a woman that he ended up getting together with one night in Las Vegas and But it was kind of a team, kind of catfished a little bit. | ||
| They got a tape of him or something like that. | ||
| This is me just hearing it from other people. | ||
| This is how informed I am. | ||
| But I will say, the point is, they tried to extort He just immediately told his wife and told everybody. | ||
| It's just like, yeah, I fucked up. | ||
| And she's like, hey man, as long as he comes back to me, you know. | ||
| I mean, I'm totally paraphrasing everything. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| But for her, it's like he didn't lie. | ||
| How fascinating is it that there's people that would target him as an opportunity? | ||
| He's sort of wholesome in a way, but also funny. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What's so funny, Jamie? | ||
| What are you after? | ||
| They're going after NBA players and athletes and NFL players just like that, too. | ||
| Targeting them and looking at their Instagram account and know where they're going to be. | ||
| So they're just treated as a business proposition. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's like ransomware, but it's the human version. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| It's a weird time. | ||
| Weird time. | ||
| It is a weird time. | ||
| For stuff like that. | ||
| It's a weird time for just the interaction that we all have with each other. | ||
| It's just very strange. | ||
| It's all the possibilities of where this would go. | ||
| It used to seem like I kind of saw how the world was going to go. | ||
| I remember being a kid and being worried about the war with Russia. | ||
| Remember that, right? | ||
| Do you remember always being worried? | ||
| That was a good kind of fear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It felt good. | ||
| It's nostalgic now. | ||
| But once that sort of dissolved, I felt like I kind of had a sense, at least in some rough form, of what the future was going to be like. | ||
| Things are going to get better. | ||
| People are going to get smarter. | ||
| Life is going to advance. | ||
| And then all of a sudden the internet came along. | ||
| And then... | ||
| Any ideas that I had about what the future was going to be like were now like, huh? | ||
| Fucking who knows? | ||
| And it kept getting more who knows and more who knows. | ||
| And the who knows that I'm at right now is just like, fuck man, where is this going? | ||
| I really think it's going to some weird virtual reality thing that people are going to plug into and it's going to be better than life. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, we're designing a better interface for it all the time, but right now we're limited to little glowing rectangles. | ||
| We are, but the kids that are super into video games, they're essentially experiencing it right now, just in a weird, you know, they're right in front of the screen, playing games. | ||
| That's what I'm doing. | ||
| Do you do that all the time? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did, dude. | ||
| I had an issue for a few years with Quake playing online, which is really fun, multiplayer, but I shy away from computer games now because of that. | ||
| Too immersive. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Too addictive. | |
| For me, yeah, man. | ||
| I'm not good at not doing things I enjoy constantly. | ||
| Well, my thing is, for me, it's kind of like short stories. | ||
| Like binge-watching. | ||
| I'll choose the easiest setting. | ||
| Oh, so you're playing a video game, though, where you're not interacting with other people online. | ||
| Yeah, I'm playing by myself. | ||
| Or co-op. | ||
| My thing is, I think games, this is when you're talking about where is it going, you know? | ||
| I think what will help, and what I think people really dig, is I think people are going to get tired of these first-person shooters. | ||
| It's always like, shooter, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, explode, explode, shoot. | ||
| I don't mind necessarily doing that. | ||
| I like it when it's more cartoony. | ||
| That's why I'm a fan of Borderlands. | ||
| It's kind of like this cool cell-shaded, looks like you're playing a comic book. | ||
| Puzzle-solving and stuff. | ||
| No, it's a first-person shooter with lots of guns, lots of explosions, but everything is like cartoony and Mad Max-y. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| But not like crazy cartoony, just like comic book cartoony. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right, right. | |
| So there's like this cool joyfulness to it. | ||
| You got a video of that? | ||
| I'd love to see what that looks like. | ||
| Yeah, check out some Borderlands 2. I've seen picture ads, I think, at the mall when you walk by the video game store. | ||
| Yeah, you'd see it. | ||
| It kind of looks like a Mad That Max thing. | ||
| There's always some guy with a gun. | ||
| He's got his fingers to his head like he's blowing his brains out. | ||
| And then there's some graphic. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And the dude's wearing a gas mask. | ||
| See if you can find a video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See what this looks like. | ||
| It's a really fun game. | ||
| And you can play co-op. | ||
| How often do you play this sucker? | ||
| I mean, I'm playing Divinity 2 right now. | ||
| Dude, you're an addict, huh? | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Well, not that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is dope. | ||
| Is this what it looks like when you're playing it? | ||
| This is someone playing it right now. | ||
| This is someone playing it right now? | ||
| This is live? | ||
| The top thing that popped on Google is someone on Twitch playing. | ||
| Oh, so we're watching someone live on Twitch play. | ||
| Okay, here's the question. | ||
| Why is it so compelling? | ||
| And it is compelling. | ||
| But why is it so compelling watching people play games? | ||
| It's It's hard to explain. | ||
| I think it's because it's like a movie, but it simulates real-time action from the first-person point of view, and so it's kind of exciting. | ||
| Did you ever see Hardcore Henry? | ||
| No, I did not. | ||
| That movie is shot all first person? | ||
| Yeah, I heard it was awesome. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's some of the best fight stunt work I've ever seen. | ||
| The choreography is insane. | ||
| This is super compelling. | ||
| I feel like my seven-year-old now, like if I take my seven-year-old to a restaurant and the TV's on, they stare at the TV. You know, little kids like stare at TV. I feel like that. | ||
| Like, you're talking about Hardcore Henry, and I'm like, yeah, probably pretty cool. | ||
| But I mean, while I'm just staring at this fucking video game. | ||
| Well, this is also a weird level. | ||
| This is, like, some weird, like, extra thing. | ||
| This isn't the game. | ||
| Because the game looks even more, like, desert-y, cartoony. | ||
| This is, like, some, like, bonus... | ||
| Well, whatever it is, it's fucking awesome. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's like, use that one, like, Sanctuary, or... | ||
| Jamie, these are all people playing on Twitch? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| I was hoping you were going to go to talk about this game. | ||
| This is a new game that's gotten really popular right now. | ||
| Oh, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds. | ||
| It's gotten popular using Twitch, really. | ||
| So this is a Battle Royale game, sort of like the Hunger Games, if you've seen that. | ||
| It's sick. | ||
| Nine tips for combat, survival. | ||
| What can you use? | ||
| You could use a gun or a bow? | ||
| So you drop 100 players, drop into a map. | ||
| It's an island. | ||
| It's about five square miles. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh! | |
| And the border encroaches over time. | ||
| Circle comes in and starts killing you as you come in. | ||
| It's a kill zone that slowly starts moving in. | ||
| All of the guns and anything you find in the map is randomly placed around the map. | ||
| So you're starting, everyone starts to scratch with just a fist. | ||
| And your goal is to survive or play hide and seek. | ||
| So either you become the badass that kills everyone. | ||
| Or you get jacked. | ||
| Or you just hide the whole game. | ||
| You just survive to the end. | ||
| But meanwhile, people are watching this on Twitch also. | ||
| But it's compelling. | ||
| It's the most popular thing to watch on there, too. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| It makes sense, though, because you're seeing all these people. | ||
| It's like watching a gladiator match. | ||
| Yeah, but hold on. | ||
| If they're watching it on Twitch, can someone have a chat in the other screen where the person who's playing can read the chat and read where people are? | ||
| I've been doing that recently, and they can talk to me while I'm playing. | ||
| They give me tips sometimes. | ||
| I'll miss something, like I'll skip a scope, and like, hey, you missed the scope, or you missed that awesome gun, go back and get it. | ||
| Right, but my question is, is it possible for them to also be monitoring the other people in the game and tell you where those people are? | ||
| That's called stream sniping, and that's a cheating thing that's sort of being handled right now. | ||
| How's this being handled? | ||
| You can delay your stream a little bit. | ||
| You can hide different things that give away your location on the map. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Interesting. | |
| Like it's a setting that you can have? | ||
| I think that's just a problem with people being able to chat with each other. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| So, like, Mighty Mouse is actually doing this, too, and he did a custom game with all of his fans, and 100 people that were just watching him, I jumped in, too, were all playing, and Rampage does this, too, and people end up going to attack them, because they want to be the guy that killed Mighty Mouse in the game, or whatever it is, but, like, they're just watching his thing. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's so funny. | |
| I want to be the one to kill! | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| He's gonna... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the thing that I like, I like co-op games. | ||
| So I like fighting AI with other humans. | ||
| Like, you know, like people either, like, that are, they're coming, because what I discovered when I was playing, um, uh, what is it called? | ||
| The game with the mechs. | ||
| The mechs? | ||
| The new one? | ||
| Yeah, new one. | ||
| What is mechs? | ||
| Mechs are robot suits, exoskeletons. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, okay. | |
| But more like walking tanks. | ||
| Walking on it. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| It's like a hugely popular game. | ||
| But I was playing it, and it's one of those massive... | ||
| Multiplayer games and like every time it starts like there's all these people running around and you don't know anybody you might you might but I didn't and I would just get killed within Milliseconds. | ||
| Did you ever play? | ||
| It wasn't fun. | ||
| Did you ever play unreal? | ||
| No, no unreal tournament. | ||
| Yeah unreal and unreal tournament Does that was another one that kind of like oh gotcha came like quake like and they had all these crazy cool weapons Yeah amazing graphics. | ||
| That's what these all are They're all that. | ||
| It's like massive weapon systems. | ||
| You're switching weapons constantly. | ||
| You can craft weapons. | ||
| You can collect ingredients to craft weapons. | ||
| Divinity 2 is an interesting... | ||
| Oh, Titanfall. | ||
| Titanfall. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, yeah. | |
| It's a huge game, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's massive, massive. | ||
| Oh, you climb in there? | ||
| It's gorgeous. | ||
| I love mech suits. | ||
| Like, who doesn't like being... | ||
| Like, were you talking about being the Hulk? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, this is what you get to be. | ||
| Like, this massive machine. | ||
| This is awesome. | ||
| It's really cool, but I was just, like, so bad at it. | ||
| I was just constantly getting killed. | ||
| These fucking kids today. | ||
| And it wasn't fun. | ||
| Too good at games. | ||
| And I was like, this is cool. | ||
| You know, it's... | ||
| It's cool to imagine yourself in these situations. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| But I also like playing cooperatively. | ||
| So if I was doing this, playing with other players, and I had a team, I guess that would be something I would try. | ||
| Being on a team against other human beings. | ||
| It's just so fucking much time you have to take out of your life to play these things. | ||
| Well, here's the thing that you might get into. | ||
| Warehouse scale RPG, VR RPGs. | ||
| Oh, I've heard of that. | ||
| I've heard they're trying to set up... | ||
| Wasn't there a place that was doing a virtual reality in Utah? | ||
| Wasn't it like in Utah? | ||
| Oh, you think it's Salt Lake City? | ||
|
unidentified
|
The Void. | |
| Yeah, they're setting up a whole environment. | ||
| Yeah, they have one set up. | ||
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| They did the Ghostbusters thing at Madame Tussard's Wax Museum in New York for the Ghostbusters. | ||
| Yeah, this... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The future of virtual reality, Time Magazine. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Like, you wear a backpack. | ||
| It's a backpack computer, so you're wireless. | ||
| And then they have custom goggles that they fit on you. | ||
| Look at this shit. | ||
| And all of this is mapped in an environment. | ||
| So, you're holding the guns, you look down, you see the gun, the gun moves when you move it. | ||
| So these people are walking through some environment. | ||
| This is insane! | ||
| So it's mapped. | ||
| So this is what you're seeing in the reality. | ||
| And so certain things, you know, it depends on how one-to-one. | ||
| I hope that in the future with real-time... | ||
| Data capture with cloud capture you'll be able to pick up objects like it'll actually be able to Track up teddy bear and you reach out and the teddy bears there. | ||
| It's lined up well So you naturalistically grab it you squeeze it and in real time the the the system is reading it so it's actually puppeting all the objects in the room and So yeah, and then the floor rumbles. | ||
| There's steam that comes out, you know, kind of like a ride, but you are the visual component you're hijacked. | ||
| So right now it's just Ghostbusters? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Ghostbusters and The Void. | ||
| The Void is, I think it's public. | ||
| I think you can go there. | ||
| Yeah, so The Void, but there's a place that's opening up hopefully in Los Angeles, which is totally rife for it because there's a huge VR community here. | ||
| That's Santa Monica, yeah. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, there's at least five major players in the Santa Monica area. | ||
| Major players? | ||
| What do you mean by major players? | ||
| Like people, humans? | ||
| Like big-time players? | ||
| Yeah, like Weaver. | ||
| Like they have stars? | ||
| They have titles that they're working on, and they have experiences, what some people call simulations, experiences, interactive experiences, or just puzzles or whatever. | ||
| There's people innovating for VR, so they're production companies that make VR videos. | ||
| They encode, or they code, they... | ||
| Create software, or they're just really good at capturing. | ||
| There's 8i, which does spherical capture, or volumetric capture, it's called. | ||
| Yeah, so there's a lot of people here. | ||
| So the technology is here, and it's always being innovated, but at warehouse scale is the perfect marriage for people, especially in LA, who like to be active. | ||
| It might feel weird about sitting down in a chair and just staring at a screen with a controller in their hand, but they can understand naturalistic movement. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right, right, right. | |
| And you can, in a warehouse scale, you can actually see the size of the room and feel the breadth of the space. | ||
| So, in that particular video, it seemed like they had chairs and tables and everything like that, but the actual textures on those chairs, that was all added later. | ||
| Yes, all the graphics. | ||
| So the objects were real, but they looked way different. | ||
| Some of the objects, yeah. | ||
| Like the major obstacles are there. | ||
| The chair was crazy because they have a chair in the video game that seemed to me to be very different. | ||
| Like the brick wall is very different. | ||
| That's what I mean. | ||
| It's not one-to-one. | ||
| It's just a basic representation. | ||
| I'm saying in the future, you'll actually be able to just have a movie set, and the system will already have a preloaded, pre-scanned, sized version of that room, but then there'll be sensors that are real-time calibrating it to make sure that it's rock solid, so when you reach out, you're like, oh, I don't feel like I had to move my hand a little higher to grab this. | ||
| Right, you can just reach out, and it's right there. | ||
| Yeah, it's a one-for-one representation. | ||
| Do you think that the chair is bolted to the ground? | ||
| Wow, look at these people all walking through there. | ||
| Where is this if they're doing that? | ||
| This was called VR studio, VRcade. | ||
| This might have been a demonstration. | ||
| Yeah, VRcade. | ||
| This is fucking insane. | ||
|
unidentified
|
If this is the future, man, it's gonna be really, really weird. | |
| I know. | ||
| I mean, it's gonna be so weird. | ||
| I mean, imagine if the mapping becomes so rock solid that you could reliably run up a flight of stairs. | ||
| Oh my god, that's so crazy! | ||
| I mean, that sounds like a whatever, but it's like, it's not, it's not. | ||
| And then once it becomes wireless, I mean, remember when the only way to get to the internet, yeah, the only way to get to the internet was to have an ethernet cable connected to your device, right? | ||
| Now, that's silly. | ||
| I don't have an ethernet cable anywhere. | ||
| I don't even know where to get one. | ||
| The only problem with VR is that the processing power, so for a while it had to be tethered to a PC. Now they have PC backpacks. | ||
| Well, now I guarantee you what they're going to have is like one of those, you know how you get one of those five charge battery packs for a phone where you recharge it five times? | ||
| They're going to get one of those bitches. | ||
| It's going to hook up to your phone and everything's going to take place. | ||
| All the processing is going to be on your phone. | ||
| You're going to have a Bluetooth headset and you're going to be able to go out into a park and do this shit. | ||
| Yeah, it'll be like Bluetooth 15.0. | ||
| Yeah, like you and your friends, you'll just have to walk across the park. | ||
| Like, you remember when you first got an iPhone and you had to do the fingerprint a bunch of times? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, in all sorts of different ways. | ||
| The side, the front, the back. | ||
| That's what you'll have to do. | ||
| You're like, okay, define your parameters. | ||
| Calibrate. | ||
| And everybody will walk through the park together and crisscross. | ||
| And then once the computer has enough data, they go, okay. | ||
| Processing. | ||
| The game begins in 10, 9, 8, and then... | ||
| You're in Avatar World. | ||
| It just transforms. | ||
| Well, see, that's the thing. | ||
| It's like, you know, you have augmented reality and virtual reality. | ||
| Augmented reality is interesting. | ||
| Microsoft's HoloLens uses this real-time, like, basically can see the environment around it by mapping it. | ||
| So it stereoscopically maps it, and it creates a really quick texture map of the environment that you're in. | ||
| So imagine that mixed with, like, the idea behind, I forget the name of the The project, but it was an early Microsoft project where it basically scraped all relevant types of photos and stitched them together and created virtual 3D environments of locations based on photographs that are everywhere on the internet. | ||
| So it could recreate a plaza in Italy. | ||
| And then using, like, kind of interpolation, like the AI software, kind of stitching it together, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| So imagine that existing already just because people are passing by with their phones, they're taking pictures, they're taking video. | ||
| So all of that data is now present according to the location that you're at, mixed with headsets that are able to scan in real time collectively that also gets processed and stitched together, cross-referenced together, so that instantaneously you can have a mapped, almost one-for-one game zone in a giant park. | ||
| Like, pretty quick. | ||
| And just like how you described it. | ||
| But, like, using things that are in the headset, that are tracking in real time, and then transmitting, or that are completely internal to the headset, and then also networked intelligence, too, simultaneously. | ||
| And then also probably some fake stuff that they can create visually and with 3D sound. | ||
| Totally. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
| Where you can see, like, you know, if you're doing an avatar game, you can see the dragons flying overhead. | ||
| You're like, Jesus. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| The HoloLens does that. | ||
| It's got these two little slits. | ||
| They're not even like regular speakers. | ||
| They're slits that are above your ears that are pointed down. | ||
| It's almost like hypersonic sound, you know, like sound that can be basically paper thin. | ||
| So if I move the axis, you can't hear it. | ||
| And then if I move it back on axis and you haven't moved your head, you'll hear it specifically in one tiny, thin slice of audio. | ||
| It has to be very precise, so it's a form of that, but they're just pointing down, and they can simulate Dolby 5.1 binaurally, which is insane. | ||
| Think about how crazy your earplugs are, right? | ||
| Look at this little tiny-ass speaker. | ||
| This little tiny-ass speaker, when it's in your ear, it can get too loud. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If I listen to music sometimes, it can get too loud with these things. | ||
| And I've got to get you better headphones. | ||
| These are great. | ||
| They're good. | ||
| What's wrong with them? | ||
| They're the ones that come with the iPhone. | ||
| Yeah, they're okay. | ||
| They have a lot of high-end, which is not good for your hearing. | ||
| Oh, not good for your hearing. | ||
| Yeah, I like things that are soft on my ears, but I can hear clearly. | ||
| It's about precision. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What's the difference? | |
| Does this fuck your ears up? | ||
| I would say Shure's are really good. | ||
| It depends on what you're using for. | ||
| I have Shure's. | ||
| I think the EarPods actually sound really fucking great. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| So I like the EarPods. | ||
| They're better. | ||
| I like them better than the headphones that come standard. | ||
| Anytime headphones are included, they're okay. | ||
| But they're not great. | ||
| I mean, on an Apple standard, better than most. | ||
| The EarPods are more precise. | ||
| The EarPods just sound natural. | ||
| They sound like... | ||
| I'm really surprised. | ||
| I'm prepared for them not to sound good almost every time I use them. | ||
| But they sound great because they don't seal the ear. | ||
| They sit in the ear. | ||
| But the design is so ingenious that even when I'm working out, I'm like... | ||
| I'm, like, on the bench, getting up, jumping around. | ||
| They're still not falling out. | ||
| And they sound great. | ||
| The bass sounds all natural. | ||
| And then I'll put in, like, a high-end pair. | ||
| I have, like, a crazy amount of headphones. | ||
| And I'll put in some, like, crazy headphones. | ||
| Like, some Audis, whatever, Planner, Magnetic bullshits. | ||
| Like, little tiny ones that don't require much power. | ||
| A phone would power it. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| But I put those in, and I'm like, oh, wow, that sounds... | ||
| Really small. | ||
| I have to adjust to its detail, whereas the iPods, as soon as I put them in, I'm like, oh, that just sounds like a nice, perfect frequency curve. | ||
| It feels very flat and real. | ||
| Wow, that's a strong endorsement. | ||
| Pretty good, yeah. | ||
| I was very impressed with them. | ||
| I bought them, and I never opened the box. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I got it sitting at home. | ||
| They're easy to pair, man. | ||
| And it's cool, because I just have them in my jeans all the time. | ||
| Ah, right, a little tiny thing. | ||
| And it's easier to handle than this wire. | ||
| Yeah, that wire gets fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, I just pull it out, and it's so fun, because the way it snaps, close, and open magnetically is so satisfying. | ||
| How long does the battery life last on those suckers? | ||
| I think it's eight hours. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I think with the case. | ||
| The charge case recharges twice. | ||
| Dung James got it right there. | ||
| They pair with the Apple Watch too, so you can leave your phone at home now. | ||
| Yes, I have the new Apple Watch. | ||
| Did you get the 3? | ||
| LTE, yeah. | ||
| Sirius 3, brah! | ||
| So what's the deal with the 3? | ||
| What's better? | ||
| LTE. Now you can leave your phone at home and just take your watch? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you comfortable enough with your life to do that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I mean, if I'm going to a concert or something like that, I think what's great about this, when I saw people talking about, like, what do you think about the Apple Watch when they first announced it? | ||
| There were so many people that were like, it's so stupid. | ||
| You already have a phone. | ||
| Why does your watch need to be a phone? | ||
| And they're saying all these things related to that. | ||
| And I'm like, guys, you don't get it. | ||
| It's about having to not manage a physical object. | ||
| The watch is on your wrist. | ||
| It just stays on your wrist the whole day. | ||
| I mean, unless you take it off or whatever. | ||
| But most of the time, you just leave it on the whole day. | ||
| And it's always there. | ||
| You don't have to manage it. | ||
| Like, if you want to make a call, you make a call. | ||
| If you want to take a call, you know, you have your ear pods. | ||
| You can do a full call. | ||
| You can listen to your music on it. | ||
| How much power, battery-wise, does that thing have? | ||
| I think on LTE, what is it, like six, five hours? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| What do you live in a half a day? | ||
| Haven't used it yet. | ||
| Figure it out, you fucks. | ||
| Get it so that thing works better. | ||
| Yeah, that's like all LTE, but realistically, you're not going to be on LTE all the time, so depending on your usage, I think it'll last. | ||
| Is that five hours of talking? | ||
| I think of, yeah, LTE, like talking or something like that. | ||
| But I think, for me, I'm like around 67, 74% every day. | ||
| Really? | ||
| At the end of every day. | ||
| So I can go a couple days without charging it, actually. | ||
| Ooh, bold move, though. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I like it though. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I feel like a rebel. | ||
| I like pushing it, man. | ||
| These wireless pads are going to be everywhere soon enough. | ||
| Yeah, I'm using it on my iPhone. | ||
| Or the watch rather. | ||
| I just got the 8 Plus and just set it right on there. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You got the 8 Plus? | |
| Are you going to get the 10 as well? | ||
| Are you a hedonist? | ||
| You're a crazy person. | ||
| I have like almost every top of the line phone because I want to know Android because I have a T-Mobile account and an AT&T account. | ||
| So you want to learn Android, so you're fucking around with it? | ||
| So I'm always updating. | ||
| I just want to know what's the UI philosophy. | ||
| What do they think is interesting? | ||
| Because they're too divergent, but they're very similar. | ||
| Very similar. | ||
| I like to check out, like, oh, what's the difference? | ||
| That's really frustrating that iPhone doesn't do that. | ||
| That's frustrating that this doesn't do that. | ||
| For me, if it wasn't for AirDrop... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Airdrop's kind of keeping me on board. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, I realized how much I liked that. | ||
| I tried the Google Pixel, which I really liked. | ||
| Yeah, that's a great phone. | ||
| It's a great phone. | ||
| And the Pixel 2 is supposed to be even better. | ||
| But the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 might be the best phone in the world, they say. | ||
| Yeah, I have the 8 Plus. | ||
| It's very beautiful. | ||
| The Note Plus? | ||
| The 8. No, I'm not going to do the Note. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Galaxy 8 Plus. | |
| Yeah, Galaxy 8 Plus, yeah. | ||
| But the Note is, you know, similar, same thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's got, obviously, the stylus. | ||
| The pen, yeah. | ||
| And there's a couple... | ||
| Other features. | ||
| I think the camera's the same. | ||
| But it's just got a couple extra features, so I just stick with the smaller. | ||
| What do you think about it? | ||
| The 8 Plus? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| The screen is gorgeous. | ||
| Amazing, right? | ||
| It is so... | ||
| The colors are just insane. | ||
| It's really beautiful. | ||
| And once you have no bevel... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You look at it... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it bezel? | ||
| Bezel. | ||
| Why did it say bevel? | ||
| I thought you might have said bezel, because it was soft enough of a V. I was like, he said bezel, but it just sounded weird. | ||
| I caught myself out on it. | ||
| That's a good job, man. | ||
| But it's so much more beautiful than seeing that edge. | ||
| That edge is like the obvious edge at the bottom of the iPhone, where your fingerprint scanner goes, and the top of the iPhone, where that speaker is. | ||
| The chin. | ||
| It looks clunky. | ||
| Yeah, it's totally clunky, and it's the next step. | ||
| Before augmented reality glasses, so that your phone are your glasses. | ||
| When I look at the Note 8, Redband has the Note 8, it looks like Minority Report. | ||
| I'm looking at this, I'm like, wow. | ||
| That's the whole screen. | ||
| Yeah, you're holding the screen. | ||
| It's all screen. | ||
| This is like the future. | ||
| It's pretty rad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It legitimately feels to me like a big step up from like a regular phone. | ||
| I look at that, I'm like, okay, this is obviously next level. | ||
| Yeah, I got the Essential phone, too, just to see what that display was like to kind of get a preview for the iPhone X. The iPhone X is going to be insane. | ||
| That's going to blow it all out of the water. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I mean, I will say that their product design has been like, there was like a period where I'm like, eh. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Just kind of like their last few iterations of computer. | ||
| I mean, I always get the new everything from Apple, pretty much, and then just either sell or find someone who needs a computer or whatever and just give it to them. | ||
| So I cycle through a lot of technology. | ||
| And just for a while, the laptops were cool. | ||
| There were some nice improvements. | ||
| I mean, I like the MacBook Pro design. | ||
| It's pretty cool. | ||
| I like the strip. | ||
| I thought it was going to be a gimmick. | ||
| The strip's cool. | ||
| The strip becomes an issue with me because I have fat fingers and sometimes I hit Siri accidentally. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I disable Siri. | ||
| I did disable it. | ||
| For a laptop. | ||
| No, but I did too. | ||
| But it doesn't matter. | ||
| When I accidentally hit the button, it says series disabled. | ||
| Would you like to go on? | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Assholes. | |
| See, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| But that's me. | ||
| But it shouldn't be there. | ||
| It's also Apple. | ||
| I mean, it's right there. | ||
| It's right there where the fucking delete key is. | ||
| If your finger slips and goes up there... | ||
| It just falls in there. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Would you like to enable Siri? | ||
| No, you bitch! | ||
| See, it's saying it right now. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| No, cancel. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Just learn. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Just learn. | ||
| I want my technology to learn better. | ||
| It's not learning very well. | ||
| The thing about being able to switch windows on the bar is kind of interesting, but quite honestly, I'd never use it either. | ||
| Never use it. | ||
| I would prefer mechanical buttons for sound, too. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| It's way faster. | ||
| It's way faster to just reach instead of... | ||
| You have to press it once, and then you have to press it again, and then you have to adjust the sound. | ||
| Why don't I have just a plus and a minus like normal? | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's probably a keyboard combo you can use. | ||
| I think it's Command-App or Plus- The only other complaint that I would have is, I really like a tactile, mechanical-feeling keyboard when I write, in particular. | ||
| A bigger key throw? | ||
| Yeah, I like this one, because I like this new MacBook Pro better than the last MacBook Pro. | ||
| Because the last one was kind of mushy a little bit, and this one is more like, it seems like real positive feedback when it clicks in. | ||
| What I really like is the Lenovo Thinkpads. | ||
| They have this amazing keyboard that works. | ||
| You feel where the keys are. | ||
| I type faster with it. | ||
| It just feels like my fingers... | ||
| More certainty. | ||
| Yeah, my fingers just can communicate with it better. | ||
| Yeah, these are like flat. | ||
| They're like flat rectangles. | ||
| They're not very high off the ground either. | ||
| No. | ||
| So because of the fact they're not very high off of the rest of the keyboard, you're not sure what you're touching sometimes. | ||
| Especially if you have calluses, I guess, and if you have sensitive fingers, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I get that. | ||
| So you have to just understand the spacing of it, but it's almost like they're preparing you for typing on a glass screen the same way you type on your iPhone. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And see, I'm not a big fan of that. | ||
| I think we should be able to speak to our computers. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, and they go, oh, you can just get a keyboard to attach to it. | ||
| Okay, I don't want that. | ||
| I wanted this. | ||
| This is the whole thing for a laptop in the first place. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Totally. | |
| Why don't you just sell me a screen and a keyboard? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| The fuck you doing? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Do you have an Echo or any of those things? | ||
| Yeah, I got an Echo. | ||
| I've never set it up. | ||
| Don't use it. | ||
| Someone gave it to me as a gift. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Just sitting there and I go, hmm. | ||
| I totally get that. | ||
| But I will say, I use it for my lights in my house, which is really nice. | ||
| So as I'm going to bed, I'll just be like, computer, turn lights off. | ||
| Can you change the way you talk to it? | ||
| Can you say, shut the lights off, bitch? | ||
| No, I wish. | ||
| See, it needs to do that. | ||
| We need to be able to do that. | ||
| But it's going to get there. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| Bitch, dim these lights. | ||
| And then you can set it up. | ||
| No, but I'm just saying, you can speak to it super fast. | ||
| So I can say, like, I'm in the living room and I want the lights off. | ||
| I'll just say, computer, turn the living room lights off. | ||
| And just walk away. | ||
| And it gets it. | ||
| It's, like, immediately on. | ||
| It's, like, it hears that prompt. | ||
| It's on. | ||
| I'm saying the sentence naturalistically. | ||
| I'm not saying, hey, Siri, how many times have I gone to the bathroom today? | ||
|
unidentified
|
De-de-de. | |
| You've gone... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I don't know the answer to that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whatever it is. | |
| It's that long. | ||
| It's that long. | ||
| Why would I use... | ||
| There's no reason for me to use something that takes that fucking long to process. | ||
| It's faster to do voice dictation in a Google app. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that's a combo. | ||
| Why is the voice better in the Google apps? | ||
| Is it just better than Apple? | ||
| It is better. | ||
| Their algorithms are better. | ||
| The artificial intelligence is a little bit better. | ||
| So like for note-keeping and stuff as well? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I mean, you can do a little bit more with Google Assistant than you can with Siri. | ||
| Also, I like the name. | ||
| I hate it when they name AI's thing, like Cortana from Microsoft. | ||
| I'm like, I don't fucking... | ||
| I don't want to... | ||
| Cortana. | ||
| I mean, I get it. | ||
| I like Cortana. | ||
| She's great. | ||
| I love Halo. | ||
| However... | ||
| I don't need a personality. | ||
| I want it to be a computer and I want to just do what I'd like it to do. | ||
| I don't need to hear like, okay, you know, the sunlight today is really beautiful, but I'd watch out, wear some sunscreen, unless I wanted that. | ||
| I want that option, but I also want it to be neutral. | ||
| So over time, I want an AI to learn what I dig and just kind of do that. | ||
| Yeah, there should be an option for whether or not you want it to behave like a corny human. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Some people, I mean, I get it. | ||
| You want something like that. | ||
| You want, like, a little friend or something. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'd do that. | ||
| I'd have, like, a couple different versions of it. | ||
| You know, if I'm in work mode, I change it to, like, computer voice. | ||
| If I'm just, like, chilling, having a good time with friends, I change it to, hey, party person voice. | ||
| Hey, alright, that sounds like a great idea. | ||
| Hey, play some Miles Davis. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I was just thinking of that. | ||
| Here's some Miles Davis. | ||
| Sounds like a great choice. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's great, man. | |
| What else you got? | ||
| Yeah, maybe if you get John Lee Hooker's voice. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be great. | ||
| I could talk to John Lee Hooker everywhere you go. | ||
| Yeah, you get linguists and language experts and mimics to all sit down and create a program so it can actually do impersonations off of inputting audio so it could actually become that person. | ||
| Look what Jamie just pulled up. | ||
| Lyrebird. | ||
| Lyrebird allows you to create a digital voice that sounds like you with only one minute of audio. | ||
| That's awesome! | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Remember that Photoshop for voice thing? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| This is essentially that, and it's already available. | ||
| You can make your own. | ||
| You just gotta read some audio. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I wonder how good it is. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| What if you, like, fuck with it, though? | ||
| That's what I want to use it for. | ||
| They say if you have 40 minutes of your audio, they basically have you. | ||
| I think it's Donald Trump's voice here. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| Oh my god, no way. | ||
| Love him. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with North Korea. | |
| That's... | ||
| That's fake? | ||
| You know that it's him. | ||
| You can tell it's synthesized, but you know that it's him. | ||
| Sounds amazing, though. | ||
| That's pretty great. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I will be meeting General Kelly, General Mattis, and other military leaders at the White House to discuss North Korea. | |
| The middle section was nice. | ||
| The front and the back were not very good. | ||
| Well, I wonder if they're adding that reverberation, that weird... | ||
| If it thinks that's part of the audio, like the quality of the audio? | ||
| I wonder if they're doing that on purpose. | ||
| Because you're talking about the president. | ||
| Can you do an audio version of the president and pretend like that? | ||
| You might get in real trouble because that audio could be used. | ||
| If he never actually said that about not doing business with North Korea, if they didn't make an obviously fake version, see if you find another person. | ||
| It's pretty terrible. | ||
| I'm going to run into the restroom real quick. | ||
| Oh, go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, play me some Barack Obama. | ||
| I think they're taking tweets and putting that through it. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Thank you to all the first responders and people helping each other out. | |
| That sounds terrible. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's what we do as Americans. | |
| But why does it sound so terrible? | ||
| The problem, too, on this, the way they have it set up, like if you and me did it today, they have specific sentences that we would need to read to hit the syllables, and I think they're taking speeches, and they probably tried to find the words as opposed to going directly into their computer program, which it was built for. | ||
| The only issue though is it doesn't sound good. | ||
| Those don't because they didn't actually have Obama reading specifically for them into their... | ||
| They just took speeches probably and found the words that matter. | ||
| Right, but even if they took speeches, it sounds so much shittier than the actual speech itself. | ||
| I'll try it again tonight. | ||
| My friend who showed it to me said he did it himself and got really surprised that he just typed a sentence in and was like, holy shit, that sounds like me. | ||
| They're going to be able to have people saying all kinds of crazy things. | ||
| This is not the Adobe Photoshop one. | ||
| This is, I think, a small company. | ||
| Adobe's got a better version. | ||
| They're probably going to make people have feuds with people by saying, you hear what he said about you, man? | ||
| You should listen to this. | ||
| Pretty fucked up. | ||
| And they're like, what? | ||
| Well, fuck him. | ||
| And then that guy says, fuck him, and says some crazy shit about him, and the next thing you know... | ||
| Do the reality TV show editing trick where it's just set off camera, and you show somebody's reaction to what they heard, and then you can send that to your friend and be like, look, they're fucking pissed at you, and then you start fights. | ||
| Really easily. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| That could be an app on your phone just like that app where you put a puppy dog nose on. | ||
| I mean, how is it any different? | ||
| As soon as someone gives the green light to put that on the Apple Store or the Google Play Store, someone's going to figure out a way to use that to make weird copies of people. | ||
| They do have ethics. | ||
| Oh, there's ethics? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here with your ethics. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Once you pee in the pool, you're not extracting that stuff out. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| They have samples they released at Public Awareness. | ||
| to make people realize that technology exists by releasing audio samples from the digital voices of Donald Trump and Barack Obama. | ||
| Second, we want to ensure that your digital voice is yours. | ||
| We are the stewards of your voice, but you control its usage. | ||
| No one can use it without your explicit consent. | ||
| Shut your whole... | ||
| Shut your hole. | ||
| That's like saying, I can hold my breath forever. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| You can't control that. | ||
| They have some wonky-ass website where they're trying to pretend like they can control the digital voice that gets printed using their app. | ||
| Like, the fuck you can. | ||
| Once you've made some technology like this, all your silly words that you're writing down, that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Are you going to violate all the laws, the known laws of technological progression with your disclaimer and release? | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| It's not really possible because they can tell through analysis. | ||
| I mean, that sound that you're hearing, that's part of the synthesis. | ||
| That's the best it can do right now. | ||
| For now, for sure it's going to get better, and for sure they're not going to be able to control it. | ||
| Once it's gotten to that stage, it's that crazy, I just think it's a matter of time before we have no idea what the fuck is real and what's not. | ||
| But at that point, why not just hire an Obama impersonator? | ||
| They're not as good. | ||
| Because an Obama impersonator, even the best Obama impersonator, is just a facsimile. | ||
| There's such a difference. | ||
| So you're saying that the computer has to, I mean, unless it's just audio being played back, it's still simulating it. | ||
| Oh, you mean like a physical? | ||
| Well, video, that'll be easy. | ||
| Video, they've already done it with video. | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| Yeah, Jimmy's screaming over there. | ||
| At the very bottom of the site, they had this little disclaimer agreement regarding biometrics, so I clicked it, and right here it's how we disclose biometric data. | ||
| We may also disclose biometric data in the following circumstances, law enforcement agencies, including a warrant, etc., etc., etc. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So you basically... | ||
| This is all CIA PSYOPs, man! | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| The fucking same people keeping the man... | ||
| With his boot heel at your neck. | ||
| Keeping the man the man. | ||
| They want you to play with a fucking app, man. | ||
| First they got their fingerprints, man. | ||
| They got your fingerprints off your phone, man. | ||
| Then face data. | ||
| Face data. | ||
| They're collecting DNA from your screens when you turn your phone in. | ||
| All the data's being stored on a third-party server. | ||
| I mean, it says it right there. | ||
| Oh, we're fucked. | ||
| All that data's gonna get scooped up by the Russians. | ||
| The Russians are gonna have all these people talking shit. | ||
| They're gonna have heads of industry talking shit about Donald Trump, threatening to kill him. | ||
| Donald Trump's gonna get crazy paranoid because he doesn't read. | ||
| And next thing you know, there's a fucking nuclear war going on in the United States. | ||
| Donald Trump is bombing Bill Gates. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Mark Zuckerberg is to fucking hire Mossad to protect him in his mansion because he feels that Donald Trump's trying to assassinate him because he wants to be president. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I'd vote for Zuckerberg. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Dude made Facebook. | ||
| He wins. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He didn't even make it, apparently. | ||
| I didn't watch that movie where they say he stole it. | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You might have stole Facebook. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| You think he stole Facebook? | ||
| I think he stole it a little, but not so much as someone who might be in a band and they break up and they make a song that was kind of based on some riffs that someone was doing. | ||
| It's like, well, it's hard. | ||
| Did he steal it a little like Chris Rock's ex-wife steals money from him? | ||
| How did she do that? | ||
| By just going to court and stealing it. | ||
| Oh my god, just publicly. | ||
| Well, you know what they do when you get divorced. | ||
| They're like, I want it all, you motherfucker! | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| They're stealing your money. | ||
| I heard. | ||
| Half of Chris's act. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Eddie, okay. | ||
| Yeah, Eddie Murphy would definitely talk about that a lot. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, Eddie Murphy used to talk about it with Johnny Carson, remember? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, yeah. | |
| Because Johnny Carson had to give up, like, hundreds of millions of dollars to some chick he was briefly having sex with and marrying. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa. | |
| Heavy. | ||
| I mean, not briefly, but, you know, not his entire life. | ||
| Married to her, whatever. | ||
| Not equaling that. | ||
| Shouldn't tell a fucking single joke. | ||
| It wasn't an even deal. | ||
| But that's stealing, right? | ||
| That's stealing. | ||
| That's some stealing, too. | ||
| So did he steal in that way? | ||
| Johnny Carson's wife stole? | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I think that he just had an idea of what to do with it. | ||
| But I don't think that he's necessarily... | ||
| I mean, I can be proven wrong at any moment, but I don't think he's necessarily an innovator in any way. | ||
| I think he refined an idea that was pretty obvious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| MySpace had already existed, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Friendster. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Who the fuck used Friendster? | ||
| I did. | ||
| Jamie was one of the top dogs. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It was awesome. | |
| I love Friendster. | ||
| Jamie had a Friendster t-shirt he wore everywhere. | ||
| Go to Friendster now. | ||
| It's so sad. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's the saddest. | |
| Is it still there? | ||
| Yeah, it's still there, but it's owned by someone else. | ||
| Okay, is MySpace still there? | ||
| MySpace still exists as well. | ||
| I'm thinking of going back to MySpace. | ||
| Man, I don't know. | ||
| There's got to be something else. | ||
| I think I could bring it back. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I think you could, but why would you want to? | |
| Friendster living the game. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| Friendster living the game. | ||
| Friendster is taking a break. | ||
| The redesigned Friendster came about through enduring passion to make a difference over the years. | ||
| What? | ||
| Make a difference. | ||
| Make a difference in your bank account, ho. | ||
| Over the years, we have built a vibrant community and received valuable support and encouragement. | ||
| However, due to the evolving landscape in our challenging industry, the online gaming community did not engage as much as we had hoped for. | ||
| Profound development in the gaming industry has also led us to rethink our strategic priorities. | ||
| We have thus made the decision to take a break and pause our services effective June 14, 2015. That's not a break, kids. | ||
| You quit. | ||
| That's two years ago, you fucks. | ||
| Yeah, it's a quit. | ||
| That's a quit. | ||
| That's a hard quit. | ||
| Two years in, you gotta say, like, if you and your girlfriend are taking a break, it's been two years, you're not taking a break anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You guys haven't seen each other in two years? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's over! | ||
| I think that's pretty safe. | ||
| It's over, friendster. | ||
| And then for the internet, I mean, multiply that times then. | ||
| Maybe someone's going to come out with a new one. | ||
| A virtual reality or an augmented reality based one. | ||
| Well, Altspace almost happened like that. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I was working with them a lot. | ||
| They were doing stand-up comedy. | ||
| It's basically like a Facebook of VR. So social VR. And that was really fun. | ||
| And they really helped out amazingly well. | ||
| They were like the coolest. | ||
| They were really cool. | ||
| Justin Roiland and I hung out one night. | ||
| We were together in a graveyard with like 500 of their fans. | ||
| And we just fucked around for an hour and 40 minutes. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| He was at his house with a small team of people making sure he was all good, and he had a motion capture suit, or a motion sensor suit. | ||
| And yeah, there it is. | ||
| That's me doing stand-up, so that's me. | ||
| I'm moving that character. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, in my living room. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Just like, hey guys. | ||
| I mean, that easily could take the place of touring. | ||
| If they had some place where you could interface and you could be on stage in front. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| The people go to a place. | ||
| The people actually go to a theater. | ||
| And you just get live beamed into the theater. | ||
| We don't have to be there. | ||
| Well, they did that with some concerts, right? | ||
| Like a live broadcast, like simulcast in theaters. | ||
| Yeah, like Rolling Stones or something like that. | ||
| But that's different than a hologram. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| That's different than immersive VR. They did that, too. | ||
| They had to do it with rapper Chief Keefe. | ||
| He was going to do an event, and they were saying he couldn't go because there's going to be riots and whatnot. | ||
| So what they agreed to do was have him be a hologram. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They did that curved screen projection technology. | ||
| There was still riots? | ||
| There's still a problem with it, yeah. | ||
| Because people don't like him? | ||
| No, just he incites the crowds, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's very lit when he performs. | ||
| He's a crazy fellow, right? | ||
| He's a wild one, that Chief Keef. | ||
| I've seen him on the Instagram. | ||
| Yeah, he's a young, crazy rapper. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Yeah, he's one of the very aggressively crazy ones. | ||
| So they had him as a hologram on stage. | ||
| Yeah, so there's real people at this show. | ||
| Let me hear this. | ||
| He's just there to us. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa, this is so strange. | |
| Yeah, they've been doing it in Japan for a while. | ||
| They have like pop stars, artificial intelligence. | ||
| It seems like it has to stand in one place. | ||
| Yeah, I think the hologram thing kind of... | ||
| Sort of like the Will.i.am situation. | ||
| Remember, you can't walk around the room, but he can talk to someone. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| The Japanese technology, they can walk, but it's like an obvious, curved, huge screen. | ||
| Can you imagine if you went somewhere to watch a hologram? | ||
| You'd be so angry at the person that isn't there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why can't you be there? | ||
| I know. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Why do you have to... | ||
| Well, it would be weird to go somewhere publicly to watch a hologram. | ||
| I feel like it's the future, though. | ||
| Unless it's someone who doesn't live anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like Tupac. | ||
| Like when they did... | ||
| They made Tupac way more jacked than he really is. | ||
| Did you notice that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When they did the Tupac one, they had him like a CrossFit Tupac. | ||
| Tupac was in insane shape. | ||
| He really looked like Floyd Mayweather. | ||
| Yeah, because he was a pretty wiry. | ||
| Yeah, look at him. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah, come on, dude. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's super jack Tupac. | ||
| That's a Tupac that's doing jujitsu five times a week, right? | ||
| That Tupac's got a six-pack. | ||
| He's got big muscles. | ||
| Tupac was never that big. | ||
| Is that video footage? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Yeah, this is from Coachella. | ||
| Oh, but they made it holographic. | ||
| It looks so fake. | ||
| Oh, no, but I mean the footage. | ||
| Or did they generate it? | ||
| Oh, they generate it. | ||
| This is all hologram. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The performance? | |
| Yeah, this is all CGI. It's a body double. | ||
| Was it a body double? | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Oh, well, that's part of the problem. | ||
| They used some body double who's jacked. | ||
| They should have told that dude he's got to lay off the weights for a couple years if you want to play Tupac. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Because I don't think they would have been able to track his recorded performance in the 90s. | ||
| Well, this guy who they used as a body double, they got overzealous because he's way too big. | ||
| I mean, he's like 20 pounds heavier, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Am I exaggerating? | ||
| Look how much thicker he is. | ||
| He was wiry. | ||
| He was wiry. | ||
| Yeah, but this guy's not wiry. | ||
| This guy's jacked. | ||
| Yeah, he's a little jacked. | ||
| This guy looks like an MMA fighter. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| He's built like Tyron Woodley almost. | ||
| They have a side-by-side? | ||
| He's Captain Jack. | ||
| He's built like George St. Pierre. | ||
| That's a good comparison. | ||
| Not quite Tyron Woodley levels, but pretty fucking jacked. | ||
| You got a side-by-side? | ||
| They don't have one? | ||
| Between the real Tupac and the fake Tupac? | ||
| I just came up and said it wasn't actually a hologram, and I'm trying to see what they're saying, what that means. | ||
| Well, it's CGI generated then? | ||
| Special Effects Studio made it, yes. | ||
| Expensive CGI. Yeah, see, that's what I was saying. | ||
| So maybe they used a body double to track the movements, and then they got overzealous when they went to give him six packs and pecs and delts. | ||
| Just like they made the new Star Wars figurines are all jacked. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| They're all super muscular. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Like Luke Skywalker's jacked? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It was like late 90s Star Wars or something like that. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like superhero bullshit. | ||
| But people wanted superhero bullshit back then. | ||
| Like, if you tried to put out a figurine of someone who wasn't jacked, people were used to superhero figurines. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's just so dumb, though. | ||
| It's like, I want something that looks like the thing. | ||
| I don't want to fucking cheat. | ||
| Because otherwise it looks cheap. | ||
| It looks lazy. | ||
| It's just lazy. | ||
| There's what? | ||
| Yeah, but that's not really... | ||
| There's gotta be one where he doesn't have his shirt. | ||
| He's just pulling up his shirt to show the Thug Life tattoo. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta get the whole... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy's way more jacked. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| That's a picture of him right there. | ||
| Yeah, see? | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Just get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Yeah, he's smaller. | ||
| Way smaller. | ||
| He looks like a lightweight boxer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he looks like. | ||
| I mean, he's in shape, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, he's definitely in shape. | ||
| He's not fat, but look at that. | ||
| But he's not fat. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| That guy's super duper jacked. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know where they got those proportions from. | ||
| If you're gonna be that jacked, like, you really have to not eat anything that's bullshit. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| Like, you can't be fucking around at all. | ||
| Not even slightly. | ||
| No, it's just, like, all, like, straight protein, super clean. | ||
| Like, just broccoli, chicken breast, egg whites. | ||
| No beers. | ||
| No, no, not one beer at all. | ||
| No. | ||
| And, like, water, no salt. | ||
| No salt. | ||
| No salts and in fact one day you'll probably fast or you'll like over water like by gallons and gallon gallon then not drink for two days. | ||
| Probably take diuretics before you do the shit. | ||
| If they made one of you, would you let them add a little bit of extra water weight or would you tell them to fucking slim you down? | ||
| No, I'd say leave me the way I am. | ||
| They already did. | ||
| I'm in that EA video game. | ||
| Like a real life hologram. | ||
| Really? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| They had that UFC fight in real life and we got to watch it. | ||
| I would say, leave me the way the fuck I am, man. | ||
| Don't make me look more muscular than I really am. | ||
| It's more immersive. | ||
| Yeah, in the EA video game, that's my actual body. | ||
| They took fucking hundreds of pictures. | ||
| They have you stand. | ||
| They rotate around you with a camera. | ||
| They have this thing that spins around you and takes photos of you from all these different precise angles. | ||
| You have to do all these different things with your body. | ||
| You have to do things with your arms. | ||
| You have to stand with your hands up. | ||
| You have to extend your fists. | ||
| Yeah, they're doing a combination volumetric capture and optical capture. | ||
| That's what I actually look like. | ||
| And so they skin you. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| They basically skin the optical information stitched with a little bit of CG. Yeah. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| See, that looks like a person. | ||
| That looks like a real person. | ||
| That's what a person looks like. | ||
| I mean, your face does look a little uncanny valley. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you're just like, video game character. | ||
| They're about five years away from that not existing anymore, right? | ||
| Five years away from just freaking you the fuck out with reality. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Like, Avatar did a great job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That CG was like, I mean, half of it was the actor's face. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the rest of it, I mean, it looked very natural. | ||
| What's really cool is that they, for a movie like Avatar, is that they can have something that's not a real thing. | ||
| Like, what's really challenging is when you do a CGI of a real thing, like a wolf, or Game of Thrones does it with wolves, and they have to be real careful how they shoot it. | ||
| Like, I Am Legend with Will Smith, they did it with lions, and it was kind of clunky. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But with the zombies in I Am Legend, they work perfect, because they're this thing that's not a real thing. | ||
| Yeah, it's a fantasy creature. | ||
| Yeah, you don't have a point of reference. | ||
| What is this, Jamie? | ||
| This is from Logan that They digitally did his face in almost all these action scenes, because I don't know whether he didn't do it or not, but this little piece just came out. | ||
| I don't know if it just came out this week. | ||
| I just saw it the other day. | ||
| It's a really cool little three-minute piece about the digital double, is what it's called, of Logan. | ||
| If somebody wants to watch that, I'll try to put up there. | ||
| Oh, is that the stunt guy? | ||
| Yeah, this is the stunt guy, and then they kind of show the breakdown. | ||
| That was the actual clip, and they'll show you the breakdown now of how they added each little piece to it to make what you saw from... | ||
| You know, all the little camera angles. | ||
| This is incredible. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| So the dude just got a... | ||
| God, that's insane. | ||
| And then this thing later here in a second will show you how all the cameras that they used to get his actual face. | ||
| So this was CGI? Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| That scene. | ||
| That whole scene was CGI. I didn't question it at all. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Most of these scenes were CGI. I did not question any of that shit, man. | |
| That's incredible. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| But you know what's fucked up? | ||
| Even though it's CGI, they still made it as obvious as a real fight scene with actors and a stuntman. | ||
| Yeah, the movement is real. | ||
| But it looks very obvious that it's fake, is what I'm saying. | ||
| Oh, now it does? | ||
| Yeah, to me. | ||
| But in the movie, I didn't think of anything. | ||
| No, no, no, that's not what I mean. | ||
| I mean, it looks very obvious that it's a fake fight. | ||
| Oh, it looks choreographed. | ||
| Yeah, because you can't actually have the guy punch the guy. | ||
| You can't actually have the guy shoot him first, you know, and he absorbs the bullet and keeps going and cuts the guy's head off with his claws. | ||
| But they could have done something along those lines. | ||
| They choreographed it like they would choreograph a fight scene in a Six Million Dollar Man episode. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, oh, I'm gonna punch you. | ||
| Oh, you stabbed me first. | ||
| Oh, I'm gonna shoot you. | ||
| Oh, you cut me first. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right, right, right, right. | |
| Well, that's my thing with tactical scenes and fight scenes. | ||
| For me, you just have to balance the believability level. | ||
| So if it's kind of cartoony acts, like violence or whatever, then make sure that the physics flow together really well. | ||
| Like Captain America Winter Soldier, one of my favorite of the Marvel movies. | ||
| Just the fight scenes were incredible. | ||
| They were really, really well done. | ||
| Pretty badass. | ||
| Pretty badass. | ||
| Like when fucking Winter Soldier gets hit and he like slides backwards. | ||
| You know, there's always that thing where a guy gets hit and he slides backwards and the pavement gets torn up and he's like holding his stance. | ||
| But the physics on it looked... | ||
| Really good. | ||
| So I was like, oh, that's great. | ||
| And they were just paying attention to all these little subtle physics details. | ||
| And that's what makes me appreciate the fighting. | ||
| Or like seeing Gina Carano fight, like fake fight in movies. | ||
| She knows how to take a hit. | ||
| So when she gets hit, she knows what it looks like when you get hit. | ||
| But a certain way or a certain angle or whatever. | ||
| And not saying that she's like, the best, best, but just as an example of somebody who actually does make contact or has had experience in that. | ||
| The reactions are a little bit more believable. | ||
| And also they're probably more willing to let people get closer. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| And also you don't feel like you're being treated like a fool. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Because otherwise it's just like... | ||
| You see the people waiting for the next hit. | ||
| Like when you see those fight scenes where people are standing around in a circle, and one guy goes in, and everyone else is waiting? | ||
| That would not work like that, man. | ||
| No. | ||
| Everybody's just gonna wait. | ||
| Well, that's the rules. | ||
| It's just one guy at a time. | ||
| Okay, now you try it, Tony. | ||
| God, he's really good. | ||
| Okay, Walter? | ||
| Yeah, it has to be some... | ||
| That's one of the things that I found almost eerily impressive about John Wick. | ||
| John Wick is preposterous, yet believable at the same time. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| They balance that shit. | ||
| They figured it out. | ||
| Because you see it as choreography, but it's so fucking tactically and imaginatively thought out and stylistically gorgeous. | ||
| All the ingredients go together. | ||
| And you see in that footage of him running three-gun training and he's fucking rocking through those courses, for real. | ||
| He's using live rounds. | ||
| And so when I see that movie, I'm like, oh shit, these guys know what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| They're not fucking around. | ||
| They're like using special forces guys for training. | ||
| They're using a specialized team of martial artists to create a customized version of martial arts just for him. | ||
| My friend Higan Machado did a lot of the jujitsu choreography for it. | ||
| That's who I was watching. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I love their whole fucking take on it and their approach. | ||
| It's artistry. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's like, that's what it is. | ||
| There was no, like, everything that he did would work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was no jump up and kick two dudes in the head at the same time and shoot through a window and shoot a guy a mile away in the head. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| There's none of that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's like, if you trained really well, and that situation presented itself the way that it did, you could do that. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But it was also very cartoony, too. | ||
| Totally, yeah. | ||
| That's what I was so great about it. | ||
| So it's like, it's this perfect, because the whole world was heightened. | ||
| You know, like the whole hotel thing and assassins having like, you know, creeds and the courts. | ||
| So it's already in that world. | ||
| So you just need to create efficiency. | ||
| You know, all it is is just like lethal efficiency with a kiss of artistry. | ||
| And there's a uniformity in John Wick's personality that is so, so samurai that you believe that he could do all this and not be affected by killing all these people. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Well, it's like all the people he's killing are players. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're all players in the game. | ||
| And they deserve it. | ||
| They killed his dog. | ||
| Yeah, they killed his dog. | ||
| And anybody who gets in the way, not that it's their fault, but if they decide to take him on, then he just has to... | ||
| It's just professional. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a professional. | ||
| Even in his revenge, he's professional. | ||
| Well, except for the part where he shoots the dude in the hotel and gets excommunicated. | ||
| But other than that, I mean, I just love that character so much. | ||
| I love the stunt driving. | ||
| And that's not CG. That's him. | ||
| That's a 51-year-old man. | ||
| Fucking destroying it. | ||
| And I'm like, you know what? | ||
| If anything, even if you like that type of stuff, or if you don't like that stuff, just watch a scene, look at the artistry of the choreography, think about how old he is now, Hardy Train, and then try to have someone who's sitting on a couch going, I can't lose, I can't lose 30 pounds. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Without... | ||
| I mean, I'm talking about someone who has no help. | ||
| It's just them alone just going, I can't do... | ||
| It's like, man, anything is possible. | ||
| Anything is possible. | ||
| You just have to fucking do that shit. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think that movie is like... | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's like a masterpiece of that genre. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
| There's a lot of those John Woo-style movies that are fun and everything like that. | ||
| Well, I think what John Wick movies did is they took that... | ||
| They boiled down the story to, like, there's no... | ||
| There's no ambiguity as to whether or not there's bad people and good people, whether or not he should kill all these fucking people. | ||
| He just absolutely should kill them all, and he's absolutely going to, and it's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, and it's okay, because it's a game. | ||
| That's the whole thing about it. | ||
| That's what's so brilliant about it. | ||
| It's a game, but it allows stuntmen, tactical expert forward movie making. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's really, that's what it is. | ||
| It's mostly that. | ||
| The story kind of takes you along in an interesting, but it's a pretty narrow pathway. | ||
| It's like the apocalypse now of, like, shoot-em-up. | ||
| Of tactical thrillers or tactical whatever you call them. | ||
| Whatever you would call those. | ||
| It's like the masterpiece of those. | ||
| You know, if you get a chance, check out this guy. | ||
| Have you ever seen Strike Back? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's a Cinemax show. | ||
| It's a show? | ||
| Yeah, it's a series. | ||
| I didn't even know Cinemax was real anymore. | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's too many networks. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Skinemax. | ||
| People start... | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Back in the day, they'd have those softcore B porn movies. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You'd be like, holy shit. | |
| You'd see a titty every now and then. | ||
|
unidentified
|
This is happening. | |
| This is crazy. | ||
| They would lie down on the bed and the lady's leg, her naked leg would drape around the man's body so you knew what was going on. | ||
| You're like, I can't believe this. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But then the physics would trick you up. | ||
| You're like, okay, the way they're lying, his dick's nowhere near her. | ||
| Doesn't look right. | ||
| How's he having sex with her? | ||
| He's having sex with the cushion in front of her vagina. | ||
| There's no way he's reaching her actual vagina. | ||
| He's way too low. | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's like the man was in the wrong spot. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| And he's like, ugh. | ||
| And she's like, you're doing it wrong. | ||
| And the ADR is off. | ||
| Just like, ugh. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, how does that? | |
| Does it feel good? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Amazing. | |
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| Yeah, like just obviously someone in a studio adding sound later. | ||
| There was whole genres about those. | ||
| There was series of movies. | ||
| Emmanuel. | ||
| Do you remember those? | ||
| Emmanuel goes to Paris. | ||
| Emmanuel goes to Italy. | ||
| They were all like... | ||
| Like Daniel Steele porn. | ||
| No, because Daniel Steele, like, it would be more for the ladies. | ||
| Oh, you're right, you're right. | ||
| I got you. | ||
| She was like this exotic traveling lady who would fuck these dudes in hotels and these movies. | ||
| They were so corny. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| But you would be so excited. | ||
| But it was softcore? | ||
| Yeah, when I was like 16 and shit. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Amazing. | |
| We, you know, first got cable. | ||
| You know, like, my parents were asleep. | ||
| Remember to sleep up there? | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Tune into Showtime or Cinemax. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Totally. | |
| Emmanuel 4, Emmanuel 3. That's right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
There's a series of those. | |
| I do remember those. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh my God. | |
| Yeah, I was into that shit. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Holy shit. | |
| Everybody was. | ||
| When you're a little kid, you're like, I'm going to see some titty. | ||
| I can't believe I'm going to see a naked lady. | ||
| And like some more shit. | ||
| Yeah, you're like, I'm about to see some real adult stuff. | ||
| Real shit. | ||
| As long as you don't see genitals. | ||
| We do not tolerate genitals. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, except for breasts. | ||
| Yeah, breasts are okay. | ||
| Yeah, but that's not a genital. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| A man can have one and just walk around in public, like Ari Shaffir does. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Like, who's Ari Shaffir? | ||
| You don't know Ari Shavir? | ||
| Stand-up comedian? | ||
| Good friend of mine. | ||
| Thinks he's more famous than he is, obviously. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Oh, is this Emmanuel? | ||
| The Cobra? | ||
| She's so hot. | ||
| Emmanuel, too. | ||
| Oh, no, she was hot. | ||
| She's getting acupuncture? | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
| Oh, she's getting acupuncture to be more hot. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| She's really beautiful. | ||
| She's undeniable. | ||
| Like, that 80s beauty. | ||
| Yeah, look at that guy. | ||
| I love that severe 80s beauty. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's just great. | |
| She's gonna fuck the pool guy? | ||
| Please fuck the pool guy. | ||
| Why does she have a Cobra in the lower left corner of the screen? | ||
| Because it's probably someone's channel that they're reposting. | ||
| Dude, I remember these movies. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| She's looking out the window. | ||
| Maybe there's some dick in that building. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| Maybe I should go to that building. | ||
| This building is tired. | ||
| Look, she's like pretending to be a geisha. | ||
| Cultural appropriation. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| No, no, that's her. | ||
| No, that is. | ||
| That is someone performing a ritualistic dance of some sort. | ||
| Look at that guy. | ||
| I had to like try to figure out what was going on there. | ||
| She's mounting him. | ||
| Mounting him and kissing his face. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, see? | |
| See how they're having sex? | ||
| There was a brief moment. | ||
| Look, there's no one near each other's vagina. | ||
| Yeah, it's just like the idea. | ||
| It's like theater sex. | ||
| Well, it was the beginnings of figuring out the loophole between pornography and romantic movies with... | ||
| It's essentially, it has almost no plot. | ||
| They could write the plot like, oh, we're just going to get to Paris. | ||
| We'll figure it out when we get there. | ||
| This is what I want you to do. | ||
| Look out the window. | ||
| Where's Bob? | ||
| Fucking Bob. | ||
| Get over here. | ||
| I'm horny. | ||
| And Bob shows up in a yacht. | ||
| Enough story to make it look like, oh, is this a TV show? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Because it's a TV show. | ||
| Bob gets off the boat. | ||
| I can't believe you're here. | ||
| I didn't know you were coming. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Let's go get a drink. | ||
| Then they go into the next room. | ||
| Next thing still, they start making out. | ||
| I missed you so much. | ||
| I missed you too. | ||
| I've made some mistakes. | ||
| I'm so sorry. | ||
| Next thing you know. | ||
| It's like, oh, I can't do this. | ||
| It's like, why not? | ||
| Just one night. | ||
| It's just one night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They smoke cigarettes in bed together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Back then, everybody smoked. | ||
| I never really got that. | ||
| The cigarette after sex. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| A post-fuck thing for people who like to smoke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't get it because you don't like to smoke, right? | ||
| I don't like to smoke, no. | ||
| Have you ever smoked? | ||
| No. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| My parents did. | ||
| Stupid hobby. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's a tough one, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| My mom quit cold turkey, though. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Like 13 years ago. | ||
| Good for her. | ||
| She's 80 now. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Is she okay? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| How long did she smoke for? | ||
| She smoked like... | ||
| Probably since they're like late teens. | ||
| See, that's what every long-term smoker, they hear that story. | ||
| They go, as long as I just know when to jump off this ride, I'm gonna be okay. | ||
| Remember those Bugs Bunny movies where a plane was about to crash, and right before the plane hit the ground, Bugs Bunny would just hop off? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And a plane would crash, and you'd be like, fine. | ||
| Yeah, I love that. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| That's what your mom did. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| She was like, whoop, I'm okay. | ||
| And I'm 80. I'm done. | ||
| Well, that was fun. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| I mean, how many people die of cancer, like, from lung cancer, like, way quicker than that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| My dad, that's where my dad died from. | ||
| Well, he had heart trouble first, and then he had, like, a bunch of heart surgeries, because he had, like, a high salt. | ||
| He wasn't overweight. | ||
| He was thin. | ||
| So it's, like, one of those, like, thin fat type of situations. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, wow. | |
| Did he have just a genetic issue? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I don't know what it was. | ||
| It was just some kind of build-up because he was a smoker. | ||
| He was a heavy smoker. | ||
| He ate kind of heavy food, salty, whatever. | ||
| And it just added up. | ||
| And then he got heart problems, then emphysema. | ||
| Then the emphysema turned to lung cancer. | ||
| And then my mom, last year, she discovered she only had like 18% functionality. | ||
| Or no, like 13% functionality of her heart. | ||
| And I just happened to be in Montana at the time because I don't have brothers or sisters. | ||
| And I just happened to be there with a friend of mine for Christmas. | ||
| And it happened the day after Christmas. | ||
| So she was like, I really don't feel well today. | ||
| I took her to the hospital and they were like, yeah, you've got barely any coronary functionality right now. | ||
| And so then they put in two stents, but a third of her heart is not functioning. | ||
| One of the aorta just doesn't work anymore. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| Pretty, pretty heavy. | ||
| But a lot of it is from just like high fat, high salt smoking. | ||
| Yeah, you know, the thing is people used to think it was high fat. | ||
| Did you read that thing in the New York Times about where that all came from? | ||
| The reason why people think saturated fat is bad for you? | ||
| Yeah, well I know that certain amounts of fats and certain fats are awesome for you and some are terrible. | ||
| It all came from the New York Times. | ||
| I mean, it all came from the sugar industry. | ||
| The sugar industry bribed all these scientists. | ||
| And they didn't even have to pay them much, man. | ||
| Apparently it was only like $50,000. | ||
| They bribed these scientists to study, to report some bogus findings. | ||
| Pushing the blame away from sugar and onto saturated fat. | ||
| Oh, I did hear something about that. | ||
| This is all by the sugar industry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To this day, people think saturated fat is bad for you. | ||
| There's something that I tweeted earlier today that I was reading about saturated fat being able to... | ||
| Even cholesterol. | ||
| Cholesterol is the precursor. | ||
| It's like what you need. | ||
| It's a substrate for hormones. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| But just saying like there's so much of it. | ||
| There's so much fat. | ||
| Yeah, but dietary cholesterol is not even it, man. | ||
| Dietary cholesterol apparently doesn't even move your blood lipids. | ||
| A lot of it's genetic. | ||
| Whether or not you have high cholesterol has to do with your lifestyle, if you're sedentary, whether or not you're eating a lot of sugar and carbs. | ||
| So this is something that I posted earlier today. | ||
| When people eat saturated fat, the risk of stroke drops. | ||
| If they're also avoiding refined carbohydrates, their triglycerides also come down. | ||
| So what they're saying is that when people eat saturated fat in conjunction with eating a lot of refined carbohydrates like white flour and sugar, it's not good for you at all. | ||
| So that saturated fat is bad is the wrong culprit. | ||
| Like saturated fat might be bad for you if you had refined carbohydrates because you're just fucking your whole system up. | ||
| But, if you can remove the refined carbohydrates, saturated fat consumers have a lower risk of stroke, and their triglycerides come down too. | ||
| You actually get healthier by eating saturated fat without carbohydrates. | ||
| That totally makes sense. | ||
| It does make sense, but this is all new shit, man. | ||
| The way they separated it, it looks like they just kind of finally went like, it's kind of true, it's only true in combination. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's only true in combination, but you extract the one that we know to be bad because there's many, many studies right now showing that low carbohydrate diets are beneficial for a bunch of different health benefits. | ||
| So when you take out these refined carbohydrates, it turns out the saturated fat is good for you. | ||
| Haven't we known, though, for a while, I mean, carbs, like refined carbs, are not good. | ||
| I mean, I look at it like- We did, but we didn't know how bad they were. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I think we're realizing now more how bad they are and how important saturated fat and unsaturated fats are. | ||
| And there's a lot of saturated fats, even for plant-based folks. | ||
| You get a certain percentage of it from avocados. | ||
| I think you can get a little bit of it from coconut oil, a certain percentage of it from coconut oil. | ||
| I guess they're saying coconut oil. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| That thing was widely criticized by scientists. | ||
| That was the American Heart Association who wrote that. | ||
| And all these scientists got together and Onnit actually published an article about it where we sent, essentially, the American Heart Association is kind of whack. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Their research is kind of shitty. | ||
| Oh, that's too bad. | ||
| They're behind the times. | ||
| Well, it makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, you have to be, the cutting edge of nutrition, this is why it's so confusing, is constantly revolving around the latest science. | ||
| So if you're not using the latest science, you're not using the latest cutting edge of nutrition. | ||
| So if you're talking about some shit that they discovered in the 1970s, There's quite a bit of possibility that you might be wrong. | ||
| It's tainted. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that totally makes sense. | ||
| I mean, that's something that I tend to... | ||
| You know, my thing is, like, I just try to eat, like, what would a diabetic do? | ||
| Like, that's a good starting place. | ||
| And then the other thing is just, like, simplicity. | ||
| You know, like, for me, chicken breast, lean fish, snapper, brown rice, oatmeal, steamed broccoli, steamed kale, egg whites, egg white protein... | ||
| But even egg whites. | ||
| Egg whites are not nearly as healthy for you as egg yolks. | ||
| Egg yolks are actually better for you. | ||
| Egg yolks have more protein in them. | ||
| There's all sorts of vitamins that you get in egg yolks that you don't get from the whites. | ||
| I guess I'm talking about the powder. | ||
| Not more protein, but a good percentage of the protein, I should say. | ||
| And more cholesterol. | ||
| Yeah, the cholesterol is really the thing. | ||
| But for me, J-Rob, egg white protein, that stuff is so fucking crack. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| And it mixes really well. | ||
| I don't think they could put the yolk in there. | ||
| Have you ever used plant-based protein? | ||
| Like pea protein is really good. | ||
| Hemp protein, if you get it from a good source. | ||
| Yeah, I've used all of those things. | ||
| I guess egg white is one of the most easily absorbed. | ||
| And it's just kind of simple. | ||
| What I like about it is that it's simple and it just comes from an unrefined... | ||
| You know, refined to get it to a powder. | ||
| Right, but that's what I would say. | ||
| The issue is in the dehydration, rehydration process, it's so different than with hemp, where you're essentially just getting the plant fiber, grinding it down to a fine powder, and then you eat it. | ||
| So it's super easy to digest. | ||
| It's almost like squeezed juice, except for it's a dried plant versus a dehydrated liquid product. | ||
| You know, like egg yolks are kind of liquidy, right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I mean, yeah, I guess they are. | ||
| They start that way. | ||
| But if you cook them, or I mean, I guess you could have them raw. | ||
| Well, you can if you know the source. | ||
| Yeah, if you know the source. | ||
| People are apparently catching salmonella, though, from backyard chickens. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Apparently that is an issue now. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| And there's like that huge movement, like an urban movement. | ||
| So people who do that, be careful if you don't know what's going on. | ||
| Don't eat it raw. | ||
| Just because you've got it in your backyard does not necessarily mean it's 100% safe to eat raw. | ||
| I made this. | ||
| My thing is I just eat pretty simply. | ||
| Do you eat fish? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fatty fish, like salmon, is supposed to be the best for you? | ||
| I do like salmon. | ||
| I like coho salmon, which is really good if you can. | ||
| And then I like hamachi. | ||
| Hamachi is just an amazing mackerel. | ||
| I really dig. | ||
| Mackerel's great. | ||
| Snapper's really nice for just a nice, lean piece of fish. | ||
| I just want a basic. | ||
| Do you ever go fishing? | ||
| You know, I used to in Montana. | ||
| I grew up in Montana. | ||
| I used to... | ||
| Fly fish? | ||
| No, not fly fish. | ||
| Just, like, boat fish. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Or dock fish. | ||
| Montana. | ||
| Where were you at? | ||
| Like, a lake in Montana? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I forget the... | ||
| I forget the... | ||
| Oh, we went to... | ||
| Rainbow Lake, I think? | ||
| And then Flathead sometimes. | ||
| We went to Bozeman last summer, my family, and we went whitewater rafting down the Gallatin. | ||
| Fuck, it's amazing, dude. | ||
| You get soaked, though. | ||
| If you're in the shade, you're going to freeze your dick off. | ||
| That water's cold, that water's glacial runoff. | ||
| It's like one of the few times I noticed between a shadow and not shadow. | ||
| Yeah, if you're in the sun, you're like, ah, it's perfect. | ||
| I'll dry off. | ||
| I'll be fine. | ||
|
unidentified
|
But if you're in the cold, in the shade, you're fucking freezing. | |
| That water's cold, man. | ||
| You're so fucked. | ||
| And you just like take one step into the sunlight and you're like, thank you. | ||
| It's like breathing. | ||
| That gallatin's weird because there's a lot of people that fly fish in that gallatin river, but almost everybody releases the fish that they catch. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. | ||
| Yeah, it's more like the sportsman take on it rather than the eating. | ||
| You're just tricking this fish and sticking a hook in its head and then you're pulling it to shore and then letting it go. | ||
| Like how many times if this is like a stream where a lot of people on this river, if a lot of people fly fish, what are the odds that a fish gets caught and released like several times in its life? | ||
| Man, that would be something to ask a stochastician. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Again? | |
| What a fucked up life. | ||
| Like you're getting hooked. | ||
| Jesus, again! | ||
| Or maybe like, you know what? | ||
| I don't mind it because I'm still alive. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't like the trauma. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I think it would hurt. | |
| I think it would suck. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I don't think that they have nerve endings in their mouth the way... | ||
| I think it's more like a lot of the tissue in their mouth other than their throat is like almost like a fingernail. | ||
| I think it's the way it's described. | ||
| I see. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, because that was the thing. | ||
| I love fish, but I'm a little bit of a pussy about killing. | ||
| And so I have to kind of get into a mindset to do it. | ||
| I mean, I could do it. | ||
| If I need to survive, of course I'm going to eat. | ||
| I don't have a problem with that. | ||
| What about an ugly fish, like a flounder? | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| I was the kid trying to not step on ants going to school. | ||
| I was just like very much, even though I do. | ||
| Although I will say I'm really stoked about Memphis meats. | ||
| Memphis Meats. | ||
| Yeah, Memphis Meats. | ||
| They're out of San Francisco. | ||
| They're growing steaks and growing chicken. | ||
| Now, is that actual steak an actual chicken or is it a vegan alternative? | ||
| From the cells of animals. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, Jesus Christ. | |
| You're gonna get zombie-itis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, some things are gonna happen, but I do think that it's an interesting thing because I was vegan for like seven years and now I'm not... | ||
| Do you get people mad at you because of that? | ||
| You know, I've gotten some people like, I thought you were vegetarian or I thought you were vegan. | ||
| I thought you opened Yeah, I thought you cared. | ||
| But the thing is, I do care, and I'm pretty particular about the sources of my protein. | ||
| Very particular. | ||
| But I am excited about this idea, because it poses an interesting question to someone who's choosing to be vegan for ethical reasons, or health reasons, or both. | ||
| If meat was able to be grown, It's saying that you liked meat before you became one. | ||
| I like the flavor, but I don't like the ethical. | ||
| For ethical reasons, it makes sense. | ||
| For health reasons, I would feel like it's probably just as bad for you or worse. | ||
| Unless you feel bad when you eat certain things. | ||
| Not emotionally, but if you just have a reaction to meat. | ||
| Some people do have that. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| People that do, that's a real common thing recently. | ||
| You know about that Lone Star Tick disease? | ||
| No. | ||
| People are getting allergic to meat. | ||
| There's some... | ||
| Oh, weird. | ||
| Yeah, something that is in the bite of the tick. | ||
| Something called... | ||
| They call it alpha-gal for short. | ||
| And when you get this, you develop this allergy to this stuff that exists in red meat. | ||
| And so when people get bitten by this one particular tick, they literally develop an allergy to red meat. | ||
| And it can subside over time. | ||
| But for a lot of people, they stick to chicken and fish afterwards. | ||
| They literally become allergic to eating meat. | ||
| So they become healthier? | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| See, that's where the whole saturated fat argument comes into play. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| I guess it depends on the diet. | ||
| All this confusion about whether or not red meat is bad for you. | ||
| Because a lot of these studies that show that there's a direct correlation between red meat and heart attacks, what they don't do is differentiate what kind of red meat. | ||
| They don't make a differentiation between red meat that's grass-fed, pasture-raised cattle that's very healthy, or bison. | ||
| Versus a fast food burger with a white bread bun and french fries and a soda with all sorts of sugar in it. | ||
| Because of the fact that people eat red meat on a daily basis, they don't take into consideration what they eat that red meat with. | ||
| And there's a giant difference between eating a piece of grass-fed meat with vegetables and a glass of water, maybe a yam. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Versus eating a fucking Carl's Jr. double cheeseburger with fake bacon and just dripping with funk and, I mean, sugary corn syrupy. | ||
| Sugar sauces. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you can't make the butt people do. | ||
| And so the correlation between... | ||
| These are not good tests. | ||
| Because the correlation between red meat and cancer, you could say, maybe, maybe, but not the way you guys showed it. | ||
| The way you guys showed it is just eating red meat with a bunch of other shit versus eating red meat and living a healthy life and eating with vegetables and having what you would call a balanced diet. | ||
| You can't say that it's all the same. | ||
| I totally agree with that. | ||
| I mean for me the red meat is like I'll just feel better if I'm not eating it all the time, and I just prefer chicken or whatever. | ||
| Dude a lot of people have different reactions to all kinds of things. | ||
| I know several people that have celiacs where they literally can't consume any bread. | ||
| I know a bunch of people that have that. | ||
| And for those people, their body is obviously different than mine. | ||
| If I eat bread I don't feel as good. | ||
| You know, if I eat a big-ass sub, like a fucking pastrami sub, it feels great while it's going down. | ||
| Sure, but then you feel like, shit! | ||
| You feel like shit. | ||
| Sometimes it's hard to remember that. | ||
| Because you're like, well, I just want the thing. | ||
| The difference between an In-N-Out double-double with a bun versus protein style with the lettuce, it's an infinitely different thing. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| I mean, you know, for me, it's like... | ||
| Like, you know, filet mignon or something like that. | ||
| It's, like, really nice because it's, like, a very lean cut. | ||
| What about blue cheese on the top? | ||
| Well, I don't know about that. | ||
| I don't know if I can go there. | ||
| I like the... | ||
| Crumbled blue cheese and filet mignon. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah? | |
| You? | ||
| No? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Jamie's too white bread. | ||
| He's from Ohio. | ||
| They don't even know what blue cheese is over there. | ||
| Turn it into a cheeseburger. | ||
| Just leave that shop. | ||
| They have ranch. | ||
| No, bro. | ||
| Blue cheese with a little crumbled blue cheese with some fucking... | ||
| Look at you. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I'll tell you, here's the problem. | ||
| Honestly, also, like, filet mignon is a boring cut. | ||
| Like, a ribeye is the cut, right? | ||
| You get a lot of fat, and it's just, like, cooked in there, and you get a fucking nice, dark surface on the outside, and you slice in, it's red in the middle, and you get a hunk of fat in your mouth. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| It's so much better tasting than filet mignon. | ||
| So I would not have blue cheese with a ribeye. | ||
| I will say that at Pacific Dining Car, I don't know what they do, but they make the most perfect filet mignon. | ||
| There's like nothing on it. | ||
| It's just the steak, but it is like the most flavor complex piece of meat ever. | ||
| Do you go to the downtown one or the one that's in? | ||
| The downtown one. | ||
| See, the downtown one is like 24 hours a day, isn't it? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| How the fuck is that possible? | ||
| So I can get a steak at Pacific Dining Cart in downtown LA at 4 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| You could. | ||
| I need to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We need to have like a post-show Pacific Dining Cart dinner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One of these days. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Absolutely. | |
| At the store? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh. | |
| Because we're always going to these bullshit places to eat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That place rocks and I just love it. | ||
| It's got that heritage server vibe to it. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| I dig that, man. | ||
| Have you gone to the one in Santa Monica? | ||
| I have not, no. | ||
| It's excellent. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| They're both excellent. | ||
| Okay, I'll take it. | ||
| It's a super old-school steakhouse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's something about that that I like when they have a relationship with the cattle farm or whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I will say, I am excited about a grown steak. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're excited about something where something doesn't have to die. | ||
| Ethically, completely clean. | ||
| Yeah, if it tastes as good as the original, and you're just like, no, I love both of these, then you would obviously... | ||
| I would choose the one that was just... | ||
| One hundred percent. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I mean just because like well just an efficiency I mean, you know get rid of the empathy the emotional thing but like even just for efficiency's sake. | ||
| How about this saving the environment from methane? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| The amount of methane that the problem is we don't need cows anymore. | ||
| We'll have to start murking those cows. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Because they're just gonna fuck and just grow. | ||
| They're gonna be like deer. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| A dude online sent me a photo from his house in Long Island, and he was saying that Long Island is just infested with deer, and that they're literally going in and giving these deer operations. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, they're trying to remove their ovaries. | ||
| They're giving them birth control pills. | ||
| They're trying all these different ways. | ||
| Oh my gosh, yeah. | ||
| They have all these different proposals. | ||
| And even some places they hire snipers. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's so tough. | |
| They're giving, they're trying to figure out what to do because there's no predators and there's just a fucking astounding number of deer. | ||
| That's, you know, it's, you know, it goes, it's just human civilization. | ||
| Like we just, it's a domino effect. | ||
| We keep like fucking... | ||
| Sort of, but the real issue is just no predators. | ||
| I mean, if they really want to get bold, if they released a bunch of wolves over there, they take care of that population. | ||
| I agree, but that was a human decision. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Because those ecosystems work perfectly and then we come in and we're like... | ||
| I don't like those trees over there. | ||
| And a bird goes away, and then that bird was responsible for this thing, and that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I don't like wolves eating my kids. | ||
| I hate wolves. | ||
| I don't like the way they have sharp teeth. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't like it one bit, and they don't look very friendly. | |
| So whatever the reason, so that's kind of what you get. | ||
| You monkey with a perfect system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But once you monkey with that perfect system, once you monkeyed it out, you're responsible. | ||
| There's fucking deer everywhere! | ||
| Yeah, you've got to keep it running. | ||
| Where are we going? | ||
| I know. | ||
| You've got to keep it running, man. | ||
| For people who live around there, it's a huge pain in the ass because they crash into those things all the time. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And you could die. | ||
| I've had friends run into meese and deer. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Moose. | |
| Moose is the scariest one. | ||
| That's like running into a tree. | ||
| It's like stories of some guy who had a pickup truck who was going, I don't know, 45, something like that, 50. Yeah. | ||
| Hit a moose and the moose just walked into the forest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably broke a lot of shit, but they could walk away. | ||
| It probably broke some shit, but it walked away. | ||
| It'll probably, hopefully heal. | ||
| Did you see the video on YouTube very recently of a guy hitting a moose on a highway in Canada and it launches it into the air? | ||
| I mean, launches it. | ||
| Like, the moose just steps out onto the road, and boom! | ||
| This guy hits him with his car, and the people that are filming it are like, holy shit! | ||
| And this moose is just flying through the air. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, fucking flying. | ||
| Like, 20, 30 feet through the air. | ||
| What happened to it? | ||
| Did it die? | ||
| It must have died. | ||
| I don't know, it was just a quick video. | ||
| It might not have, man. | ||
| I mean, it might have, but they're so tough. | ||
| Here it is, right here. | ||
| Meets are tough. | ||
| See this guy's driving? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Boom! | |
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Yeah, that's not alive. | ||
| That looks like a deer more than a moose. | ||
| The other one that I saw, honestly, Jamie, was different. | ||
| Maybe it's the same video from a different angle. | ||
| Oh, that's a moose. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh my god, that's incredible. | ||
| That's dead. | ||
| He's just lying. | ||
| He gets scared and he's playing dead because he doesn't want anybody- Oh, he's definitely dead. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Definitely dead and that car is jack-ma-fied. | ||
| That's probably totaled. | ||
| Caved in, bent frame. | ||
| That just sucks so bad. | ||
| Well, you know, there are some places like in Idaho, Montana where they have those underpasses or those overpasses, which is pretty great. | ||
| To help the animals cross. | ||
| Yeah, the nature highways. | ||
| I think that's so... | ||
| I mean, there's like so many things we could do. | ||
| Obviously, it's resource intensive and whether people agree with it or not, but we could totally be in harmony with things. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's amazing. | |
| We need money for guns. | ||
| We don't have time for that. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| They're doing that on... | ||
| Six-hour hour. | ||
| There's a project to do that on the 101 for Mountain Lions. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they should do that. | ||
| Apparently, the genetic diversity of the mountain lions is threatened by the 101, because there's mountain lions on the ocean side, and they're breeding too much with the mountain lions over there. | ||
| Oh, interbreeding. | ||
| And it's too hard for them to get across the 101 to find all the mountain lions on this side, as you go deep into Simi Valley and those areas. | ||
| So apparently, they're trying to figure out some way to mitigate that, and one of the best ideas is this really wide strip of land, so these things feel comfortable. | ||
| And they're gonna, like, pave it. | ||
| I mean, they're gonna, like, you know, put dirt there and make it. | ||
| I've seen those. | ||
| They look great, too. | ||
| But it's a shitload of money. | ||
| Yeah, but you know what? | ||
| They need to do that shit. | ||
| I mean, it's like, you know, if we have enough shit, humans already, like, even some of us, I mean, minus mental problems, mental issues, it's like, that's, we have so much, it's just, it's crazy. | ||
| Even when I was like, I mean, I was never like destitute, but I was definitely very, very poor and wasn't sure if I would make rent or had to borrow a lot of money for a few years and things like that. | ||
| But you just realize how much you have. | ||
| In comparison. | ||
| Yeah, in comparison. | ||
| I can always find water. | ||
| I could always find water. | ||
| And if I was social enough, I could definitely gain the trust of people to be able to let me crash for a while on a couch. | ||
| So there was always a way to survive, even if there are little things. | ||
| The reason why I bring that up is just because nature, it's kind of our job to be stewards of nature. | ||
| We should be better at it. | ||
| It certainly is in a lot of ways. | ||
| We certainly should be responsible. | ||
| That's why it should be so much more of a big deal when something like some sort of a company pollutes a bay or an ocean. | ||
| It is such a giant deal. | ||
| You can't gloss over it with a cleanup. | ||
| What you've done is like that whole thing that happened with BP and the oil spill in the Gulf. | ||
| They devastated an entire ecosystem. | ||
| I mean, all the people that relied on that area for fishing. | ||
| Yeah, fucked. | ||
| And then the people that live nearby, and then the people that had to clean it, apparently the people that had to clean it, like... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No bueno. | ||
| You had to clean up gasoline spill, oil spill all day. | ||
| That should be good for you. | ||
| Are you breathing that in? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Good. | ||
| Good. | ||
| What do you got over your face? | ||
| Like one of them fucking surgical masks? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, right. | |
| A 3M mask. | ||
| And then paper masks. | ||
| That should be sufficient. | ||
| Definitely is going to filter out all the toxins that are going to get into your DNA. It's so terrible, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you know... | ||
| Much of Deepwater Horizon oil spill has disappeared because of bacteria. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| They were eating microbes. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Look at this. | |
| They poured that on there, didn't they? | ||
| That was like one other thing. | ||
| That's some new shit they're going to use actually for plastic as well. | ||
| Chemicals used to disperse it are kept underwater, making it more available to the microbes that live... | ||
| In the deeper portions of the ocean. | ||
| What's up with all those Facebook things like right in front of it? | ||
| Just like an issue with the website? | ||
| It's called Shitty Coding, CNBC. You fucks, you CNBC. That's amazing. | ||
| I just love when someone super smart figures out a giant issue we have. | ||
| With something simple. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, microbes. | ||
| Microbes can eat oil. | ||
| Or fungus. | ||
| Fungus is great. | ||
| Fungus gets rid of oil. | ||
| But meanwhile, those microbes are going to get eaten by fish, and those fish are going to become huge, and they're going to start thinking through, and they go, I'm tired of these motherfuckers coming in and killing us. | ||
| We've got to go out there and kill them. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| You want fish to kill people? | ||
| I mean, if they tried to really fuck with us, that'd be good. | ||
| If there's like a new... | ||
| We would go to war with the fish and we'd feel good about eating them? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Bacteria are evolving to eat plastic we dump into the ocean. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| They're evolving to do it. | ||
| Without us doing it? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| We're gonna make an alien, man. | ||
| Like the movie alien. | ||
| Like the Geiger alien? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You mean the xenomorph? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you see, I posted this thing on Instagram a couple days ago that I saw from Nature is Metal, the Instagram account, and it's a cuttlefish. | ||
| Have you ever seen how a cuttlefish jacks other fish? | ||
| No. | ||
| Dude, watch this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| It doesn't even seem real. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yo! | |
| Tell me that's not like some Avatar shit. | ||
| It's like a frog. | ||
| It's like an underwater frog. | ||
| But the way it opens up like a flower and pulls this thing into it. | ||
| I mean, this is incredible. | ||
| Look. | ||
| It stabs it and then... | ||
| That's so cool. | ||
| It's such a great system. | ||
|
unidentified
|
God! | |
| Because it's like... | ||
| It keeps it close to stay in camouflage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then it only opens it last second. | ||
| And... | ||
| Probably maybe the color mesmerizes as it's moving forward. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Well, it's not just that. | |
| The sea anemones, it literally takes on the shape and texture of the sea anemones. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| The amount of camouflage it has is insane. | ||
| There's somehow or another, I guess, related to octopus, which many of the octopus can do the same thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The camouflage thing is insane. | ||
| I mean, nature is like way more advanced than we'll ever. | ||
| I mean, well, we are nature, but it's just like, from our point of view, looking at nature, which is just like an evolution of, you know, it's molecular evolution. | ||
| Meanwhile, the octopus is like, what the fuck are you complaining about, dude? | ||
| You have a phone, okay? | ||
| You can fly in a plane. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| You're a bitchin' that you can't turn into, like, you look like a coral reef? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nobody gives a fuck. | ||
| Is that a cuttlefish right there pretending to be a coral reef? | ||
|
unidentified
|
No. | |
| It's a micro crab. | ||
| What are they feeding? | ||
| A crab. | ||
| This is a cuttlefish crab. | ||
| Oh, whoa! | ||
| Look at that fucker. | ||
| That's so amazing. | ||
| What a weird-looking, freaky alien creature. | ||
| It's great, and I love its propulsion system. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It just undulates on the side. | ||
| It's so cool. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I also really love spiders. | ||
| I think spiders are just incredible. | ||
| The King of Camouflage. | ||
| Play that video. | ||
| King of Camouflage, the cuttlefish. | ||
| And they are kind of cuddly looking. | ||
| They do have like a little smile to them and these cute eyes. | ||
| I don't think they mean the same kind of cuddle. | ||
| I think it's cuddle with a C-T. No, no, no. | ||
| That's what they meant. | ||
| That's what they meant. | ||
| Look at how it just becomes like whatever it's near. | ||
| Like when it sits down on stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it's so cool. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| It looks like other fish. | ||
| Oh, that's an octopus. | ||
| Look at this octopus as it's on the ground. | ||
| It's an encephalopod. | ||
| These things are just, they've adapted a way to fake it. | ||
| It's just so alien to us. | ||
| And that's the thing about like... | ||
| Oh my god, look at that shit! | ||
| Crazy, instantaneous. | ||
| Look at how it looks like the bottom of that thing that it's in. | ||
| Looks more like Cthulhu than octopuses do. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Well, you know, it's like you were talking about before about the idea of aliens visiting us. | ||
| Like, why would we think that they would look like us at all? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, you know, they could just be spheres of energy. | ||
| Sure, exactly. | ||
| And they're just like, hey guys, what's up? | ||
| Why do they have to have a language even? | ||
| Why can't they just convey intent? | ||
| Well, that's why I liked, what was that movie that came out recently? | ||
| The alien movie. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The one, the memory one. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Which I wrote off at first. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then I went back and watched it and liked it. | ||
| It's pretty fucking great. | ||
| What was it called again? | ||
| I'm blanking because I didn't like it. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Jeremy Renner? | ||
| That guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Septipods? | ||
| Arrival? | ||
| Arrival, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Arrival. | ||
| I really liked that movie. | ||
| I liked it eventually. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I first saw it when the girl died. | ||
| I was like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You're not going to get me with this. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'll shut it off. | |
| Yeah, I know, I know, I know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, like, man, that changed real quick. | ||
| Yeah, it was very interesting. | ||
| And they were something totally different. | ||
| The way I feel, it's like, why would we assume that everything would be physical when we have things like Wi-Fi? | ||
| We have literally all of the world's data coming to you on your phone from space. | ||
| With zero connection. | ||
| You take that thing, spin that phone around, there's nothing physical connecting it. | ||
| So why wouldn't we assume that information would travel from alien to alien like that? | ||
| Why do they need a language? | ||
| Why do they need to be able to touch things and see things and feel things? | ||
| They might be information. | ||
| Information might be an alien. | ||
| That's why, you know, like when people talk about doing DMT or, you know, or even ketamine, you know, like the kind of dissociative intelligences that people are, intelligences being dissociative is like that they feel around them like almost an insect-like intelligence. | ||
| That's why I think like everything is just pure consciousness. | ||
| It's just everything is consciousness. | ||
| Around you all the time. | ||
| Yeah, all the time. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's like that's what you are. | ||
| It's all we are. | ||
| I mean, as far as we know, we're vibrating weird particles. | ||
| We just don't have the senses to deal with whatever the fuck else is around. | ||
| We have the senses to deal with all our biological needs, all of our imperatives, what we need to concentrate on in order to stay functional as a flesh bag. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| We're a division of consciousness. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We're literally life forms. | ||
| We're forms of life. | ||
| Well, your body literally is an avatar for consciousness. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Just like the movie. | ||
| That's what I call the biomechanical consciousness transport system. | ||
| Ooh, that's a good name for it. | ||
| If you want to talk to chicks. | ||
| Listen, what we're going to do is we're just going to get in the hot tub with our biological transport soul containment vehicles. | ||
| Whatever, whatever. | ||
| It's no big deal. | ||
| It's a hot tub. | ||
| It feels good. | ||
| Yeah, you know. | ||
| I'll sit over here. | ||
| You sit over there. | ||
| Some women would probably take that. | ||
| They'd be like, yeah, that's cool. | ||
| Yeah, like happy chicks. | ||
| And then you're like, yeah! | ||
| Yeah, girls with tattoos like right above their tits. | ||
| They would go for that. | ||
| They'd be like, yeah. | ||
| I like what you're saying. | ||
| You made me feel good about my choices. | ||
| Yeah, I dig it. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| I dig it. | ||
| You want some of this joint? | ||
| Especially if you have a hairdo like yours, man. | ||
| You can pull that kind of talk off. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Although that fat Jewish guy has made that haircut a little fucked up. | ||
| That guy's kind of like tapped into it in a way it's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| It's become an issue. | ||
| It's become an issue. | ||
| Strange man. | ||
| Strange man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Very strange man. | |
| Who is the guy, Guy Debord, on your shirt? | ||
| Who's Guy Debord? | ||
| Oh, Guy Debord. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Guy. | |
| Oh, it's Guy. | ||
| Also, I don't care anymore. | ||
| He started, yeah, it's like, ah, fuck this. | ||
| It's the guy who started the Situationists. | ||
| They were kind of like a philosophical, artistic movement in the 50s. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| He was French and they got basically credited. | ||
| It was kind of like Dadaism mixed with like some different artistic techniques and some philosophy. | ||
| But they would do these exercises to kind of shake their orientation. | ||
| Like they loved disorientation. | ||
| So they would, you know, drink a bunch of absinthe and walk around their town and act like a group of them would like act like they were tourists in their own town. | ||
| And they would like look, they would navigate by looking up at the buildings as opposed to street level. | ||
| So they would do things like that or take maps, tourist maps of other cities and superimpose them block for block on another city. | ||
| Or they did jokes or weird kind of bits where one guy dressed as a bishop and actually led a sermon at Notre Dame. | ||
| Ooh, don't ever say it like that again. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| But they were like pranksters. | ||
| They were kind of like dicks. | ||
| Notre Dame. | ||
| They were like pranksters. | ||
| And they were credited... | ||
| Malcolm McLaren was a situationist. | ||
| And he partially created the Sex Pistols as living mannequins for his fashion. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, wow. | |
| And so the punk movement is kind of associated with situationists. | ||
| Because their whole mantra... | ||
| I mean, it's a distillation, but it's like... | ||
| Provoked to the edge of violence. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Now, that's interesting. | ||
| Was there ever a documentary on these guys? | ||
| There might be. | ||
| I've never found one. | ||
| I'm just like, there's the Society of the Spectacle, which is one of the books that he wrote, and there's like two books that he wrote. | ||
| Guy Debord's The Society of the Spectacle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| The self, Will Self takes a walk through the, how do you say that? | ||
| Where? | ||
| Ben Leuse of Paris. | ||
| I think it's Benieu. | ||
| Benieu's of Paris. | ||
| And is astonished by the prescience, is that the right way to say that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Prescience of Debord's 1967 masterpiece, which so accurately describes the shit we're in. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Basically, yeah, Society of the Spectacles. | ||
| And more fucking issues with the Twitter thing showing up right there on the pictures. | ||
| The fuck is with your browser, son? | ||
| I'm zooming in and it probably fucks with it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh. | |
| You probably have ad blockers and all kinds of weird things going on. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, that's probably what it is. | |
| Maybe you've been hacked, son! | ||
| H-A-C-K-E-D. Yeah. | ||
| Anyways, that's who he is. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| I didn't know about that guy. | ||
| Yeah, when I first moved to New York, a friend of mine, a performance artist, took me to this experimental theater that was in a garage in Williamsburg, like, way back. | ||
| It was still pretty shitty, seedy. | ||
| And you walk into this garage, and they had this theater piece on Guy Debord. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Because they kind of explained what it was about and the journey and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But it was also done in a style that would have been situationist. | ||
| So we were just like on these boards that were on top of buckets for seats for bleachers. | ||
| And then they were passing around like beers. | ||
| So people were just drinking beers and watching this. | ||
| Play. | ||
| And it was amazing. | ||
| And it really inspired me where I was like, oh yeah, I dig. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like that pranking, hacking, social hacking. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| Provoked to the point of violence. | ||
| To the edge of violence. | ||
| Just before violence occurs. | ||
| Sounds like an annoying neighbor. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Basically. | ||
| But someone who's doing it on purpose, which is even more annoying. | ||
| Yeah, super annoying. | ||
| It's more than just like, ah, he's an annoying person. | ||
| It's like, oh no, this person's doing it on purpose. | ||
| Like Andy Kaufman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Situationist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He wouldn't necessarily maybe have described himself as that, but he's a perfect example of that. | ||
| Or Andy Warhol. | ||
| More Kaufman, right? | ||
| Because Warhol was just creating art. | ||
| Well, yeah, but his whole, like, con artist kind of vibe, whether he would have ascribed to it or not, but the fact that he was kind of conning a little bit, you know, the Campbell's soup can thing was a little bit of a con. | ||
| A little bit, but people enjoyed looking at it, though. | ||
| They did, but it started, it's kind of like, when I see it, I'm like, ah, it's a little bit of a con. | ||
| And the factory idea is also a little bit of a con. | ||
| It's a little bit of a hack. | ||
| I mean, in a conscious, really intelligent, philosophical way. | ||
| It's not to say that he's really trying to fool people. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| He's just like, this. | ||
| And people are like... | ||
| Yes, I like it. | ||
| And he's like, that's what I thought, you know? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's always weird when like people push back against someone trying to push what they think is too far. | ||
| Like they become these big cultural arguments as to what's art and what's not, especially when things are funded. | ||
| Like do you remember Piss Christ? | ||
| Do you remember all that? | ||
| You don't remember that? | ||
| That was, um, goddammit, what was his name? | ||
| I was just starting out doing stand-up, so it was the late 80s. | ||
| God, what is his name? | ||
| What was his name? | ||
| Okay, it wasn't that one I was thinking of. | ||
| That was one of them. | ||
| There was another guy who was famous for that kind of shit. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| Very controversial artists who did a lot of weird, sexual, and odd stuff in the late 80s, early 90s. | ||
| And it became a huge issue because people were mad that some of it was being funded and put up in museums that were state funded. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Goddammit, it's at the tip of my tongue. | ||
| I can't remember this guy's name. | ||
| These are like pieces of art, like artworks. | ||
| Yeah, and Piss Christ was one of them. | ||
| What Piss Christ was was a jar of piss with a crucifix in it, and it was on display in a museum. | ||
| Oh, I do remember that. | ||
| Yeah, people were like, what in the fuck is this? | ||
| And they... | ||
| And they called it Piss Christ. | ||
| And people would travel from all over the world to go stare at Piss Christ. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| What's the audacity, right? | ||
| Part of it is the audacity to just do something like that. | ||
| And just be like, cool with it. | ||
| I mean, that's my favorite art is like, one of my favorite moments in kind of discovering that was when I was going to Cornish College of the Arts in Seattle. | ||
| I think it was every Tuesday or Thursday, or maybe every Wednesday, one of the middle days, they would allow students to throw a concert in the theater, in the small poncho hall theater, and you could just sign up for it, and you could do whatever you wanted. | ||
| And one day, it was like... | ||
| All the kind of, I guess I would call them performance, art, musician, conceptual musician, badasses, like all on stage. | ||
| And it was like Brent Arnold on cello, this guy Avin Kang on violin or viola, and a guy on bass. | ||
| Just like five or six people on stage, all badasses. | ||
| Tim Young. | ||
| And I was in the theater, and there were like maybe 23 kids in a 60-seat theater, just like chilling, scattered throughout the seats. | ||
| And they started playing, and everybody was playing through distortion pedals. | ||
| And they just started playing these distortion drones, like all of them. | ||
| And then eventually it just sounded... | ||
| You saw people doing things on stage, but all you could hear was... | ||
| For like probably an hour. | ||
| And I had earplugs in. | ||
| And everybody cleared out. | ||
| Like, everybody cleared out. | ||
| And I hung to the end. | ||
| But I started, like, head bobbing. | ||
| Because, like... | ||
| That's when I started realizing that static, whether you're seeing visual static or audio static, after a while, you start to hallucinate, and you start to hear music in static. | ||
| So if you hear, eventually, when you defocus, it's like those, you know those magic eye puzzles where you're supposed to hold your thumb up? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right, right, right. | |
| And then all of a sudden, oh, I can see this three-dimensional image. | ||
| Same exact concept, essentially. | ||
| But your mind is creating the structure, the geometric structure, because it wants to find structure. | ||
| And static is like raw energy. | ||
| Sort of like Jodie Foster in Contact, when she would stare at the static, trying to find patterns in it. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| That's exactly right, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, similar thing. | ||
| And so I just couldn't stop headbanging, essentially, but it was really slow. | ||
| And then afterwards, they came up to me and they're like, oh, okay, you're one of those. | ||
| And I just remember the bass player saying that to me, and I was like, ah, that's so cool. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| He didn't have to explain anything at all. | ||
| So for me, when I see duration pieces, things that test people's patience, I love it. | ||
| I love seeing people go, I can't stand this. | ||
| And you're just like, no, just wait. | ||
| Just hang in there. | ||
| No, I can't stand it. | ||
| Or it's pissing people off. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Or not even pissing them off, just making them frustrated. | ||
| There's a certain amount of frustration that I think is fun to play with. | ||
| At least when I'm doing comedy, a little bit of that is good. | ||
| Just like little doses here and there. | ||
| It's kind of my thing. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| It's a good feeling. | ||
| Test to see if people are willing to relax. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I'm just fucking with you. | ||
| Just keep that in mind when I'm doing something that seems kind of frustrating. | ||
| And if you can keep both those things in mind, you can relax and just go for the ride. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you want. | ||
| Or you could just be like, this fucking sucks and leave, which is fine too. | ||
| I mean, it's not for everybody. | ||
| Nothing is, right? | ||
| And it's all dependent upon whether or not you're good at delivering the ride. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| As long as there's a reward, that's the thing. | ||
| I mean, that's what you're doing, right? | ||
| You're always playing off of something. | ||
| That's what a joke is. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Expectations, subvert the expectation. | ||
| And there's a few different ways you can do that. | ||
| And there's going to be people that just have different styles that they enjoy. | ||
| There's people that are Gabriel Iglesias fans, and there's people that are Tig Notaro fans. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And there's people that are fans of both. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm like, I like anybody that's funny. | ||
| I like any music that's good. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good way to say it. | ||
| Results may vary. | ||
| Yeah, results may vary, but it's a sincerity. | ||
| We all know, if we're watching other comics up there that we haven't seen before, you can tell pretty quick when it's coming from an honest place. | ||
| You can tell they're nervous and they're kind of playing a cool front. | ||
| You can tell that the jokes, the point of view is coming from an honest place. | ||
| Well, it's also, I think we lost that with DJs. | ||
| There's not a lot of DJs. | ||
| Like, when I was a kid, I would remember DJs playing songs, and there was, like, sincere appreciation for the songs they were playing, because they had picked this song. | ||
| They really want you to dig this song. | ||
| And you'd find a DJ that, like, you really enjoyed his show. | ||
| Like, oh, he's gonna be on from 3 to 7. This guy's a shit. | ||
| He plays great music. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| And you'd listen to him talk about the songs, and there was this authentic thing to it, versus a Jack FM station. | ||
| We're like, here we go, Jack FM. All the hits, all the difference, all the time. | ||
| Yeah, 24-7. | ||
| Perfect fade right into the music. | ||
| Like KCRW. You get that with KCRW. So donate now to... | ||
| No, just kidding. | ||
| Donate now. | ||
| Fresh Air with Terry Gross. | ||
| Hi, I'm Terry Gross. | ||
| All Things Considered. | ||
| I used to listen to that all the time. | ||
| Public Radio International. | ||
| NPR. I used to listen to that all the time. | ||
| Corva Coleman. | ||
| That was my morning ritual. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, totally. | |
| Listen to NPR. Back before there were podcasts, this is different than what other things you're hearing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| All Things Considered. | ||
| I love Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. | ||
| Ooh, all those are good. | ||
| It's a pretty fun time. | ||
| It's pretty biting, actually, and it's lightning fast. | ||
| I mean, the wit on there is just awesome. | ||
| Yeah, NPR is... | ||
| Radiolab is NPR, isn't it? | ||
| Radiolab, yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that was one of the best podcasts, period. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| I've learned more from Radiolab than I did from all my years of barely paying attention in school. | ||
| Like, for sure. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| I quote Radiolab more than I quote most books I've read. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| They're absolutely fantastic. | ||
| I mean, there's just, like, a lot of cool shows on there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And KCRW is dope because they play so much dope music. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| I discover, like, probably 80% of my music on there. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Really? | |
| What station is that? | ||
| KCOW, it's 93.3, is it? | ||
| Or 89.9. | ||
| I haven't listened to a radio station in fucking years. | ||
| You haven't turned on the radio in years. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| I just get the app, and I stream it from my app, and from my phone. | ||
| I listen to music when I work out, sometimes when I'm driving. | ||
| Most of the time I listen to podcasts now. | ||
| 89.9, City of License, Santa Monica, Public Broadcasting. | ||
| Owner, Santa Monica College. | ||
| How weird. | ||
| Yeah, they're moving. | ||
| They got a new location, but they're like one of the most influential radio stations in the country, I think. | ||
| That's the place where Henry Rollins has his weekly show, right? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fanatic. | ||
| Yeah, and that's him. | ||
| Hey, guys, Fanatic! | ||
| That's a good Rollins impression. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I mean, you just get this kind of more like 80s radio feel. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right, right, right. | |
| You get these underground guys or people with these really warm voices. | ||
| That was a new one from Orbital coming out with a single that's definitely... | ||
| Definitely geared more towards the kids from the 1990s, if you remember that time period. | ||
| This is a new one from, you know, like that kind of shit where you're like, oh, yeah, oh. | ||
| You feel like you're in a warm bath of like, oh, what else you got? | ||
| This is a new one from Flantarf. | ||
| And then it's just like this weird, angular, gross-sounding music. | ||
| And you're like, how are you able to talk like that and play that track? | ||
| That was great. | ||
| Well, I love the fact that people can just play whatever they want. | ||
| We need more of that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| We tried for a long time to do it the other way. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| No, algorithms. | ||
| I mean, we've got Spotify now and you've got all that shit, which I don't really dig. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| Not as much. | ||
| I mean, sometimes I'll do a radio station on Apple Music. | ||
| But I like choosing. | ||
| I listen to albums. | ||
| So I listen to an album for a long time and then I'll switch to another album or I'll switch to like three songs off of a record. | ||
| But I like choosing what I'm listening to. | ||
| On occasion, I have discovered cool music by using the radio station. | ||
| But really, for me, I'd rather just do KCRW because then there's a real human You know, going, hey, check this out. | ||
| Yeah, and it's a rare treat. | ||
| Yeah, I like that. | ||
| I like keeping it a little bit more old school when it comes to music discovery and listening. | ||
| Well, just the fact that you know that this is rare now. | ||
| You know, you appreciate it. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Well, we have to come back to it. | ||
| I mean, the organic shit. | ||
| I mean, that's why, like, anything I look at, like technology, it's like, we're still kind of primitive. | ||
| It's not organic enough. | ||
| It's not an afterthought. | ||
| We're not in afterthought mode. | ||
| It's not like, you know, technology should be like a light switch. | ||
| I went to a restaurant the other day, and all of their furniture was made with, like, metal pipes and, like, wood, like this table. | ||
| And, you know, like, that sort of crafty sort of feel to things where you're touching wood and there's brick on the wall. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Like, that's, like, and the menu was written in a chalkboard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People want that shit now. | ||
| They like the personal touch. | ||
| It reminds them of being human because we're so digital most of the time. | ||
| Yeah, if somebody gives you an iPad and the menu's on the iPad, you're like, Fuck off! | ||
| Bring that chalkboard over here! | ||
| Do not like it. | ||
| Let's see the specials on the chalkboard. | ||
| I want to swipe. | ||
| To go, what kind of beer do you have? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Swipe. | |
| No, it's gross. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| That's why I think monitors, TV should only be in sports bars. | ||
| And then keep them out of all the other places. | ||
| I'd love to just go, I'm not a drinker, but if I go to a bar with a friend, I love it when I go into a bar that's just a bar. | ||
| And what I mean is there's no fucking television. | ||
| It's off. | ||
| Maybe just in case for an emergency broadcast or something, because there are people gathered there, whatever. | ||
| But I like it when it's like there's no fucking monitor. | ||
| People are just chilling, having conversations with each other. | ||
| That's what a bar should be. | ||
| Maybe you show Blade on every screen, streaming 24-7. | ||
| But project it. | ||
| Project it on a screen, just to soften the light. | ||
| Because otherwise you get that screen glare, which is a fucking asshole. | ||
| You're going super old school. | ||
| Do you drive a fucking horse? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| I do drive a horse. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's the technical term for you to drive one. | |
| Well, we're going to long for the days where engines were real. | ||
| One day, we're going to be like, remember back when cars made noises and you could hear them coming? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I'll be like, remember when you used to drive them? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| That was my favorite scene in iRobot. | ||
| He's like, I'm going manual. | ||
| They're going like 300 miles per hour. | ||
| And then the computer's like, or no, the person in the passenger seat, are you crazy switching to manual at these speeds? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I love that. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| One day, that'll be a thing of the past. | ||
| The spherical wheels, though. | ||
| I mean, come on, that was sick. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| The car could rotate while it's still maintaining the same speed forward. | ||
| Oh yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's coming too, right? | ||
| Four spheres. | ||
| Yeah, they have them in factory floor robots or like forklifts now. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh yeah? | |
| I forget what they call that type of steering, but it's like crab. | ||
| It's basically crab-like, so it can move forward, sideways any way. | ||
| How many years do you think we have where it's still legal to drive your own car? | ||
| I think we have probably ten years. | ||
| Ten years. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Sounds good. | |
| That sounds about right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like it's gonna creep in. | ||
| We're gonna realize how much safer it is. | ||
| Some assholes are gonna fuck up with manual. | ||
| They're gonna crash into a school or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then people are gonna go, enough with the manual. | ||
| Enough! | ||
| I know, yeah. | ||
| Or they'll do semi-manual. | ||
| Like, you can steer, you can drive within certain parameters, but if the computer senses you're going off the rails, it'll fuckin' guide the car back. | ||
| Well, you know, that's why it's so, there's such a demand for really old cars that have, like, tactile feedback. | ||
| They're so expensive. | ||
| Like, if you buy a 1973 Porsche, which is only about, like, 150, 200 horsepower engine, if those things are in good shape, they're worth a fuckload of money now. | ||
|
unidentified
|
True. | |
| Because you feel everything when you're driving that thing. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| You feel every bump that you drive over. | ||
| There's no power steering at all. | ||
| So you feel every turn on the steering wheel. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You feel the force against the wheel as opposed to an interpretation. | ||
| And when you turn hard, it's harder to turn. | ||
| Yeah, way harder, yeah. | ||
| You feel it. | ||
| You got to be present with it every moment. | ||
| Whereas with new power steering, you could kind of be absent-minded and be taking a pretty hard corner, which is easy to roll the car. | ||
| Well, difference in also the newest power steering, even opposed to the last generations, now they do power steering that's electric. | ||
| Yeah, it's fly-by-wire. | ||
| So you don't feel anything. | ||
| Whereas the hydraulic gave you varying feedback depending on how much load was on. | ||
| Yeah, or rack and pinion. | ||
| I always loved rack. | ||
| I thought that was the perfect happy medium. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I was like... | ||
| Well, those really old cars were so light, like those old Porsches and old BMWs like the BMW 2002, those little tiny boxy things. | ||
| They were so light, you didn't have to have power steering. | ||
| What people are doing now is they're pulling the transmissions and engines and replacing them with electric. | ||
| So you still have the road feel and the handling of it. | ||
| But you get the batteries. | ||
| But you get the batteries, so you don't get... | ||
| I mean, it's not loud, but you get this great fusion of, like, you've got the classic car look, but you've got the speed and the pickup. | ||
| So you've got, like, this little tiny BMW 2002, and you're doing 0-16 3.5 seconds. | ||
| I saw somebody did that with a 1965 Mustang. | ||
| They took a 65 Mustang and turned it into an electric car, and it was like stupid fast. | ||
| It's a beast. | ||
| I know the one you're talking about. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| You're looking at this classic old-school muscle car, and yet it has like a Tesla underbody. | ||
| Yeah, it's like an electric muscle car. | ||
| Yeah, it's nuts, man. | ||
| I mean, Rimac. | ||
| Do you know that car brand? | ||
| No, what's that? | ||
| Rimac or Rimac. | ||
| How do you call that? | ||
| I think it's Estonian R-I-M-A-C. They make this electric car, four electric motors, motor for each wheel. | ||
| It's got over a thousand horsepower. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Zero to sixty and 3.2? | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| 3.1? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Jesus! | |
| Maybe even faster than that. | ||
| Oh no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| 2.3? | ||
| That thing's insane looking. | ||
| Because my car does 2.3. | ||
| What car do you have? | ||
| Tesla P100D. Damn, son. | ||
| Look at this thing. | ||
| This thing's beautiful. | ||
| It looks like one of those Lexus coupes. | ||
| Those new Lexus coupes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, see if they can have like a... | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| Look at the... | ||
| That thing's beautiful. | ||
| Yeah it's like it's crazy and so it does uh it it definitely does um vector steering and vector power power power distribution so those things are gorgeous it can corner like a motherfucker and because the computer's monitoring traction all the time if to each wheel with an electric motor that has instantaneous torque you're able to steer the car with acceleration whoa so if you're coming around a corner Depending on the mode and the way that you're driving, | ||
| you can actually push the car around the corner with the wheels using the input from the steering wheel. | ||
| So you're directional steering but also vectral steering at the same time. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa! | |
| So that car is disgusting. | ||
| It's just leaving this Tesla behind. | ||
| Not just leaving it, leaving it like it's parked. | ||
| Yeah, and this guy actually does some good shit and so on. | ||
| There's some young rich guys that are always doing car stuff, but I like that guy. | ||
| He's going to race a Ferrari? | ||
| Oh, you know, he's going to bury that Ferrari. | ||
| Oh, no, the Ferrari's history. | ||
| Is that a LaFerrari? | ||
| Yeah, that's whatever that is. | ||
| Yeah, it's a Ferrari LaFerrari, which is a hybrid. | ||
| That's why it has those crazy... | ||
| The Rimac... | ||
| No, the Rimac's gonna win. | ||
| I know it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Three, two, one, go. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Off the line, instantaneously. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| Let's just see you later. | ||
| I mean, it's a linear power curve. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's an absolute curve. | ||
| It's a curve. | ||
| It's just a perfect curve of absolute power. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Now, where does one get one of these Remax? | ||
| How far can they drive? | ||
| 100 yards. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| It can go 200 feet per charge. | ||
| Find out how long those things drive for. | ||
| Let's take a guess. | ||
| I say they have 220 miles on them. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| I'm gonna say... | ||
| I'm gonna say 180 miles. | ||
| 200 miles to 200 miles. | ||
| You went lowball. | ||
| I thought you were gonna go highball on me. | ||
| Top end of 225 or something like that. | ||
| Which for an electric car is a huge deal. | ||
| What's your Tesla get? | ||
| What's the longest distance you could drive? | ||
| 340? | ||
| That's pretty goddamn good. | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| Or 3... | ||
| What did you think about when Tesla, when they, like, had a bunch of people, what does it say? | ||
| 2.82 kilowatt can give the concept... | ||
|
unidentified
|
205 miles. | |
| 205 miles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's conceptual driving. | ||
| The drive cycle, yeah. | ||
| So if you're driving like a maniac... | ||
| I'm gonna say 150. Yeah, maybe not even, right? | ||
| Yeah, 140. What did you think about, like, during the hurricane in Florida, Tesla released a bunch of these cars that had restrictions on the amount of distance they could drive? | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Yeah, and so they did it remotely, and they gave these cars more of a distance. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They control speed, probably govern top speed? | ||
| No, I think they actually literally have a threshold of how far they're, like, you could pay more when you buy them. | ||
| So, like, if you buy one, you could have the option to have a 250-mile gas tank or a 350-mile gas tank. | ||
| Oh, they would just unlock the capability? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So the same kilowatt battery, size kilowatt battery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| It's weird, right? | ||
| I think as long as the battery system is modular, so that you can add or take away from it without huge manufacturing costs of changing the shape of the battery, which is what Tesla does, you can either elongate the body of the car and then add more packs, or you can shorten the body of the car, narrow it, less packs. | ||
| But I think it should just be packs. | ||
| You're just fucking people over. | ||
| I just don't think it's cool. | ||
| Because you have the capability. | ||
| It's just a software thing. | ||
| It's not going to cost any extra money. | ||
| Unless the idea... | ||
| But it's so weird. | ||
| It's like, well, then why not just make a competitive lease for the battery capacity that you want? | ||
| Or, they're like, buy it for a small price now, and if you want to pay more later, we can unlock more battery potential. | ||
| Yeah, but here's the problem. | ||
| Instead of, like, say if you buy an engine, and it has 800 horsepower, and then there's another option, you could buy the V6, and that only has 350 horsepower. | ||
| Psych! | ||
| We're kidding. | ||
| The V6 has 800 horsepower. | ||
| We're not going to let you use it, because you're not paying us. | ||
| That's really what it is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's because it's the same exact battery pack. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like that. | ||
| That I don't like. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| They've intentionally crippled some of their cars, and the other ones, they've given you an option to not cripple, but we want you to pay more. | ||
| Well, you know. | ||
| But you have the same exact hardware. | ||
| It's an in-app purchase. | ||
| Well, it is kind of, but it's way different because you're talking about like a physical. | ||
| It's like almost like your phone. | ||
| You have to pay more and your phone has 250 gigabytes versus 100. Totally. | ||
| That's really what it is. | ||
| Well, yeah, but it's like also the same as like getting a video game and you're like, I've got the video game. | ||
| And they're like, would you like to unlock more content? | ||
| Yeah, but see, that's a journey you're on, right? | ||
| Your video game is a portal to a journey. | ||
| This is a physical device that has the capability to drive 350 miles. | ||
| Like, nah, you can't have those 350. I'll give you two. | ||
| Well, also, realistically, I'm only driving like maybe 30 miles a day. | ||
| Yeah, but that doesn't matter. | ||
| But I'm just saying, like, if the idea was like, you could in the future. | ||
| Well, see, it doesn't make sense. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is that a real thing? | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| It just doesn't make any sense. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's gross. | |
| It's like you don't need to do that. | ||
| Well, it makes sense if you want to make money. | ||
| Well, I guess if you just want to, like, unify the manufacturing process so that you can create a higher yield or something like that. | ||
| Dude, you're looking at it like the man. | ||
| You sound like the man to me. | ||
| I'm looking at it as the Johnny Blue Collar consumer, and I'm fucking pissed. | ||
| Hey, I am pissed at you. | ||
| You know, I'm just saying. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| We're going to wrap this bitch up. | ||
| You guys want to say? | ||
| Let's wrap it out. | ||
| This is awesome, man. | ||
| I know people were talking a long time. | ||
| They were like, oh, you should be on his show. | ||
| You should be on his show. | ||
| Well, you know, you and I ran into each other the first time we ever met on a plane. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We were flying to London or something together. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| Just randomly. | ||
| International plane. | ||
| We were like one seat ahead of each other. | ||
| We took selfies. | ||
| I put the selfie on Instagram. | ||
| Remember that shit? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That was a long time ago, man. | ||
| That was a long time ago, yeah. | ||
| I think it was you, me, and Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Wow, that was a while ago. | ||
| A long time ago. | ||
| I think we were on our way somewhere in Europe. | ||
| I want to say... | ||
| I don't know where I've ever been. | ||
| Look at that! | ||
| That's us! | ||
| Where were we on the way to? | ||
| From London to LA. From London to LA, okay. | ||
| Just randomly... | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Time travel, man. | ||
| Time travel. | ||
| What year was that, young Jamie? | ||
| January 2015. Crazy. | ||
| Just think at the moment we took that picture, we were simultaneously talking about this moment, reflecting on this picture. | ||
| Crazy, man. | ||
| So in a way, we were time traveling. | ||
| We were. | ||
| We were time traveling. | ||
| And we were on a time travel ship. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| We're stoked. | ||
| And now, we're done. | ||
| Say goodbye. | ||
| Goodbye, everyone. | ||
| Sleep well. |
Export Selection