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Sept. 15, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1012 - Brendan Schaub
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joe rogan
Oh, false flag.
unidentified
Five, four, three, two...
joe rogan
Yes!
Yes, ladies and gentlemen!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Yes!
We're here.
I'm sorry we didn't go live earlier, folks.
I tweeted it 20 minutes ago.
We just said a bunch of shit we could never talk to you about.
brendan schaub
Gossip.
joe rogan
A lot of it had to do with dicks.
brendan schaub
As usual.
Well, of course, when Shob's on, it's about dicks.
joe rogan
Gotta do what you gotta do.
brendan schaub
Dicks and gossip.
joe rogan
Speaking of dicks, that fucking thing you're driving around.
You're driving around a kid's toy all around LA. That's so crazy.
brendan schaub
Mr. Fuckboy toy.
That is a...
Dude, I was...
Because I came straight from the airport.
joe rogan
Tell people what it is.
brendan schaub
It's a slingshot, so it's three wheelers.
So there's two wheels in the front, one in the back.
It looks like Bruce Wayne's Batmobile weird toy.
joe rogan
It looks like you shouldn't be able to drive on the street.
You're like, wait a minute.
How do you...
You could just drive that around?
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
How does that work?
Is that a car?
What is that?
brendan schaub
I don't know what it is, but technically it's considered a motorcycle.
I have the helmet.
I wear the helmet sometimes.
Kids, if you're listening, definitely wear a helmet when you have it.
But I parked at the airport because I don't want to park my Porsche at the airport overnight.
joe rogan
You parked that at the airport?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I parked that at the airport.
And then I thought I'd have time to go home because I landed this morning from San Francisco.
I thought I'd have time to go home and change the cars out and then come here and take a shower or whatever, but I didn't.
So I was like, ah, fuck, I'll just drive all the way down there.
Go on the 405 over the hill.
It's lovely though.
The wind's in my face.
I got fucking 80s rock on.
I was feeling myself, man.
People are looking at me like, that's either the coolest guy I've ever seen or the biggest tool in the world.
It's fucking, hit me with your best shot!
I'm just fucking flying, man.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
You were listening to Pat Bennett talk?
unidentified
Yeah!
Just wild as shit, too.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
I love it, man.
Because, again, I would never get on a motorcycle.
Because this thing's so big, so it's a little safer.
A little safer.
People can see it.
Like, motorcycles get fucked up, can't see it.
joe rogan
That's a big part.
brendan schaub
But this thing, I mean, winds in my face, I can see, like, everything, man.
Like a car, you're showing clothes.
This, I love it.
And the stick shift, like, I feel like I'm one with the road.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a real stick.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
With a clutch.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
That thing's nasty.
joe rogan
Isn't that much better?
brendan schaub
It is and it isn't.
joe rogan
It's way better for driving.
brendan schaub
I feel more, like I said, with the road.
I feel like Paul Newman or some shit, like a race car driver.
joe rogan
Especially with that thing.
That seems like the sweet spot between a motorcycle and a car.
brendan schaub
Exactly.
That's why it makes sense.
And the gas mileage on it is super beastie.
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Oh, it probably weighs nothing, right?
brendan schaub
Nothing.
A little engine in it.
It's fast.
joe rogan
What do you think it weighs?
Can you pick it up?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
We should try after this.
joe rogan
Yeah, we should try to pick it up.
brendan schaub
You and I can definitely pick it up.
joe rogan
If it weighs somewhere around, like a really light, light car is supposed to be the most fun to drive.
Let's say like a 1973 Porsche, because they're not that powerful, but they don't really need to be.
If a 1973 Porsche has like 200 horsepower, it's like, wow, this is a fast little car.
Because you can get them down to like 1,900 pounds.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
joe rogan
My GT3 is 3,000 pounds, so think of that.
brendan schaub
Which is nuts.
joe rogan
It's very light.
brendan schaub
That's why when you're buying a Porsche, if you get the Targa, they're so much heavier.
Because they have that glass and they're heavy as fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, all that bullshit going on up there.
They do look cool.
But I don't think they are, especially the old ones, I don't think they're the most rigid.
I don't think they had that.
I used to have an NSX that had a Targa top.
What do you got here?
1700. What year is that?
Oh, that's the slingshot.
I thought you were saying Porsche.
Wow, that's light.
That's like lighter than probably one of the lightest cars you could get.
brendan schaub
Now, here's the stickler.
No airbags.
So if someone were to hit me...
joe rogan
That's no bueno.
brendan schaub
I live life on the edge, though, fellas.
joe rogan
You're living on the edge!
How do you get away with having no airbags?
How does that work?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
It's basically a motorcycle.
It's considered a motorcycle on the street.
But they say cops, if they see you without a helmet, they will pull you over and pound the car.
These things are so new, they think I'm like some...
Low budget, Alleycat, Bruce Wayne or something like that, they thumbs up.
I passed seven of them.
joe rogan
Even if you don't have a helmet on?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and I go in carpool.
I go in carpool like an asshole.
Just blaring 80s rock.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, you go in carpool because it's a motorcycle?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm like, well, classically it's a motorcycle.
joe rogan
Wow, you could go in the HOV in that?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure, Joe.
There's really no rules.
I'm kind of in no man's land right now.
joe rogan
How funny is that?
You're allowed to go in the carpool lane in a fucking motorcycle.
That's the opposite of carpooling.
brendan schaub
Isn't it weird?
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
Like, if you're carpooling on a motorcycle, you're putting somebody at risk.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
You know, if you get somebody on the back with you, every time I see a guy on a motorcycle, I see one person.
I see like, well, it's dangerous, but it's a guy on a motorcycle.
I see two people on a motorcycle.
I go, well, this is exponentially more dangerous.
brendan schaub
And usually it's this girl on the back with like, she has Daisy Dukes on her or something.
joe rogan
Right.
And how good are you at adjusting with that extra 125 pounds in the back?
brendan schaub
And her!
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
brendan schaub
Her.
joe rogan
That extra 125 pounds or whatever she weighs.
Let's go 140. Let's make her a real woman.
Let's say she's thick.
150 pounds.
So if you've got 150 pounds behind you, how good are you at correcting for that?
Have you really practiced that?
Are you good?
In the moment, when the shit hits the fan, do you make good decisions?
Do you even know if you do?
brendan schaub
I think it's one of those things where, does it matter?
If you're both on a motorcycle and you have Daisy Dukes on and you crash?
joe rogan
Who gives a fuck?
Meat goes everywhere.
brendan schaub
Super meaty.
joe rogan
Just chunks of meat hit the gravel and rip apart.
brendan schaub
That's such a terrible way to go.
joe rogan
Barefoot in shorts.
No shirt.
Riding a motorcycle.
A real motorcycle.
And you could do that in Colorado.
You don't have to have a helmet.
I think Nevada has no helmet, too.
There's a bunch of places like that.
Arizona, no helmets.
I saw these dudes riding around in Harley-Davidson's, no helmet, and I was like, what?
brendan schaub
It's kind of fair, though.
Like, if you're going to ride a motorcycle, how are you going to tell them to wear a helmet?
If they don't want to wear one, who gives a fuck?
joe rogan
Because that's the only thing that could save their life.
brendan schaub
I know, but if they're on a motorcycle, you know what I'm saying?
Like, whatever, man.
This is how I like to live.
joe rogan
Well, there's an argument there, man.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
I don't think you should be able to tell people what to do, but I think guidelines for young people are very important because they make impulsive decisions, and you could protect more of them if you made a mandatory helmet law.
Maybe you should say, up to age 30, and over age 30, you do whatever the fuck you want.
brendan schaub
Well, that's why they do it, because you can't have all those loopholes, can you?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
unidentified
That makes sense.
joe rogan
I think the reason why they do it is for insurance.
I think insurance policies, they don't want to pay out for injuries and death and all that shit.
That's why they make seatbelt laws.
That's why they make helmet laws.
I don't really think it's to protect people.
I think protecting people is a consequence of protecting their money.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Insurance on it.
joe rogan
How gross is that?
I'm pretty sure that's true, though.
brendan schaub
That's life, son.
joe rogan
Business.
They realize how many people get injured.
And how much they have to pay.
So they factor it in.
They say, well, just lobby for more protection in the cars, more airbags, airbags mandatory, seatbelts, all that different stuff.
A lot of that is really under the guise of protecting us.
It's really protecting insurance companies' money.
brendan schaub
It's nasty.
They say your odds of getting in a motorcycle accident, your first year of owning a motorcycle, are 99%.
99% of people get in some sort of, they wreck it, they do something, their first year of driving a motorcycle.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
That's why you don't buy a super fancy motorcycle your first year.
joe rogan
Did you ever see Dean Del Rey when he wiped?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
He wiped back when he was fat, Dean.
Dean got off sugar.
Completely, really impressive, actually.
He was always, it was never fat, but he was a guy who was not taking care of himself.
Sorry.
Not going to the gym.
And he got real thick.
And he was on a motorcycle and some crazy meth head cut him off.
Some lady.
It might have been a stolen car.
It was something like super sketchy.
But she crashed into him.
He wiped.
She never stopped.
And he just got toe up.
All of his side, his legs, his arm.
He just got...
Severely jacked.
Yeah, there he is.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dean Del Rey, living life.
There's a picture of the actual wound, if you could find it.
He put up the actual wound, especially on his back and side.
It's really bad.
I mean, he fucking...
brendan schaub
I mean, if I'm going to crash, I want it to be because of my air, not some random lady not seeing me on meth.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it ain't...
No, it's not in there.
There's a picture of it.
Oh.
Well, no worries.
But anyway, all that white shit all over his side, those bandages, I mean, that's how big the fucking giant tear is.
It goes, his skin is fucked up for like a good solid foot and a half.
brendan schaub
How funny is this?
So in the NFL, NBA, NHL, motorcycles are illegal.
Once you sign that contract, you cannot drive a motorcycle.
I'm sure there's guys that have them, but legally it will void your contract.
In the UFC, you can win a motorcycle.
They give you motorcycles.
joe rogan
That's because of the deal with Harley.
brendan schaub
I get it.
Isn't it weird?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, they're also like, I don't know.
I mean, you got to think of who was running the UFC, right?
It was owned by two guys, the Fertittas, that were independently very wealthy already and very wise business.
And they were fans.
So they decided, fuck this.
Let's just try to make this work.
Try to make it real.
They hired Dana fucking White to be the president, who's crazy.
And it all worked.
brendan schaub
It was beautiful.
unidentified
In a good way.
brendan schaub
It was a good...
joe rogan
It's great.
It's great.
Like, his craziness is part of the reason why it's so appealing.
Like, when Oscar De La Hoya was talking shit about the Mayweather-McGregor fight, and he goes, he was like, LOL, is this guy sniffing coke again?
brendan schaub
I love that.
Such a race.
Such a rose.
unidentified
I was like, whoa.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, did he even go into the cross-dressing?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
See?
unidentified
Not at all.
joe rogan
That's a jab.
brendan schaub
He could have gotten nasty.
joe rogan
That's a jab.
brendan schaub
He could have came with that straight right.
joe rogan
The sniffing coke.
A lot of people sniff coke.
unidentified
All right, buddy.
joe rogan
Don't fucking...
But don't...
Don't make the fucking cross-dressing!
brendan schaub
Don't make the UFC with the whatever 10 million followers blast a picture in high heels, bitch.
joe rogan
And it went out without even him having to do it.
If it's one thing, too, if it's an obvious second thing, and you say the first thing and be real mild, everybody else would pick up the slack.
brendan schaub
They assume.
Did you see Dos Brax?
Yeah, at Dos Brax.
joe rogan
That guy's hilarious.
brendan schaub
Did you see the graphic he made of Triple G Canelo?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
And Oscar Delo is in the middle as a cross-dresser.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He did one of me with a fanny pack on.
brendan schaub
It was sick.
joe rogan
Look at this!
unidentified
Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, that's funny.
Oh my God.
Oscar.
Oscar, shut the fuck up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, please shut the fuck up.
Oscar was smart though because with all the hype of Mayweather and McGregor, he would go on and shit on it, right?
Shit on the fight, just to hype up his fight though.
joe rogan
Go to that Nate and Nick picture that's everyone's on steroids.
Go scroll up.
Scroll up to the top.
brendan schaub
That one's hilarious.
joe rogan
Everybody is on steroids.
What a great picture.
brendan schaub
It's so hilarious.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, they might be right.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they might be right.
joe rogan
You know what I started watching last night?
I don't know if you'd say it, Icarus or Icarus?
brendan schaub
On Netflix?
joe rogan
Yes.
It's all about doping and this guy who's helping the Russian team to do it.
There was one estimate that it was somewhere in the high 90s of Russian athletes are on performance-enhancing drugs.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
That's my thing with this whole Jon Jones stuff.
I go back and forth.
I'm going to quote our friend Eddie Bravo.
When you look into it...
When you look into it, that Toronto ball, like so many guys, an article came out today, I think on Fox, Fox Sports, an article came out today of this guy who's a minor league baseball player, and he's pro now, and he's tested twice for it, positive, and a third time, and he's waiting to see if he gets banned for life, because three strikes, you're out in baseball.
Banned for life.
And they're saying how many guys in baseball test hot for this Toronto ball.
And they say in GNC, they have 47 products at GNC that this can show up as.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
I know.
So I saw that and I'm like, ah, fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, but wait a minute.
He's not supposed to be taking anything.
You're talking about a guy who's already lost his ability to make a living from Mexican dick pills.
Like, why would he ever just take something off the shelf at GNC? Well, we're not giving the guy kudos because he's the smartest tool in the shed.
brendan schaub
Sharpest.
unidentified
Sharpest.
brendan schaub
Sharpest tool in the shed.
joe rogan
Smartest tool in the shed.
brendan schaub
Well, tools are smart, too.
Gotta smoke the little weed.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I do get it.
brendan schaub
He might have been like, I need energy.
Give me this.
What is that?
Just some guy on the front with bolts out of his neck and he takes that.
joe rogan
Dude, the truth is I would never do steroids.
I put that on my children.
I put that on my Heavenly Father.
brendan schaub
He did not bring Heavenly Father on me.
joe rogan
I love how he capitalized Heavenly and Father.
Because for sure, do that.
brendan schaub
You don't want to go to hell.
joe rogan
Hespec.
brendan schaub
Hespec.
joe rogan
Jones 30. Imagine if he comes back at 34 and still fucks everybody up.
brendan schaub
But he's 260 pounds at heavyweight.
He's in heavyweight.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck all this cutting weight.
Just go on a powerlifting rampage for the next four years.
Keep your body in shape.
He'll still fuck everybody up at heavyweight.
brendan schaub
But if you look at that Toronto ball, man, and you see how many guys test hot for it, and they're like, what the fuck?
It's not in there.
I can see Jones' argument a little bit.
I know I go back and forth.
I'm off the Jones train.
But when I see that, and I see how big of an issue it is in baseball, in minor league baseball, USADA and the commission might be like, fuck, look at all these guys, man.
We got a real issue here.
Maybe he did fuck up.
So then I think...
There's no way they give him four years.
joe rogan
But I haven't heard of anybody else.
I haven't heard of anybody else testing positive for this stuff in the UFC. Have you?
brendan schaub
Is it the same stuff Frank Mir test positive for?
This is the other thing.
Usually if a guy tests hot for something out of one of those major camps, other guys are going to test hot for the same stuff.
joe rogan
Unless he's getting it straight from the power lifter guys.
brendan schaub
Yeah, or his NFL brothers.
unidentified
Didn't Frank Mir eat kangaroo?
joe rogan
It was like tainted kangaroo meat, bro.
brendan schaub
Was that the worst argument ever?
joe rogan
It was the worst ever.
Goddammit, Frank!
brendan schaub
You're a smart guy, too!
joe rogan
You're the smartest tool in the shed!
Some people eat kangaroo, but it's not common table fare in Australia.
brendan schaub
Fuck!
No, I was just in Australia doing shows.
I didn't have a kangaroo burger.
No, fuck no.
joe rogan
They eat venison, beef, eating kangaroo.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but did it say what he was flagged for?
joe rogan
This is my favorite part.
However, he was still given a maximum punishment by USADA because he claimed...
He listed numerous potential sources for the positive test, including eating kangaroo meat while in Australia.
brendan schaub
USADA's like, what?
Get the fuck out of here.
That's the best you got.
We've heard a bunch of shit, but that's all you got.
joe rogan
Boy.
You know what's interesting?
It's like, how much does it help?
How much, like...
Think about what these guys are doing.
I mean, definitely steroids help, right?
Steroids make you a better athlete.
They allow you to recover.
brendan schaub
Some say 10% better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's hard to tell, though, because could John beat Daniel Cormier without that small dosage of Toronto ball?
Yes.
joe rogan
He could.
That's what DC was saying.
He was like, the guy doesn't need to do it.
He's super talented.
He doesn't need to do it.
brendan schaub
I know.
That's why when you look at the evidence, you're like, this small amount of Toronto ball, and you see all the other guys testing positive for it, how much would this really help him?
Would he risk all this?
To take something piss hot?
And it's really not helping that much?
And then where do we stop?
So right now we want to...
And listen, I've been the fucking poster boy of making fun of John on this stuff, but in all seriousness, where do we say, alright, most guys are doing it?
Because there's this...
I heard Luke Thomas talking about it.
They...
WADA, right?
joe rogan
You saw it in WADA, yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, WADA's the big one.
I think in 2007 they did this survey of...
including fighters that were going overseas and competing, and they asked them kind of under the radar, how many guys are doing performance-enhancing drugs?
It was an alarming number, like 78%.
And that's people, you know, I bet it would be a little higher than that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So, like, you know what I'm saying?
So we're going to tarnish John's name, and he's not the greatest of all time, but it's like, okay, but then you pay to watch Overeem fight.
You pay to watch Vitor Bell for a fight.
You know, like, we don't know exactly who's doing what.
joe rogan
Right, but if Overeem becomes a champ, I guarantee if he pisses hot as a champ, people turn on him, too.
brendan schaub
No, I get it, but he's tested for way worse things than John has.
joe rogan
But he hasn't.
We tested for testosterone, right?
Didn't he?
It was just testosterone.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
He had elevated testosterone levels.
brendan schaub
Him and fucking Bain.
I mean, the same shit.
When he was Ubering, that's more than testosterone.
joe rogan
But he tested positive for that, didn't he?
And he said a doctor gave him a shot.
Wasn't that like the whole deal?
Some doctor gave him a shot for shoulder.
brendan schaub
Those excuses don't work for...
joe rogan
I know, they don't.
I know, but let's just think about what they are.
So he tested positive for testosterone, I believe.
brendan schaub
Well, if you test positive for that, and if he had an exemption, that means his levels were on that Vitor Belfort, Nate Markart shit, where they test you like, holy fuck, man!
How are you not growing another head?
joe rogan
He's one of the first guys popped by USADA, I believe.
brendan schaub
He was also the one who, remember, he ran away.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
He's like, gotta go!
Gotta go!
brendan schaub
Literally sprinted to his car.
Did he?
Goddamn, look at that big man run.
Yeah.
Really?
And then he had to come back.
joe rogan
He ran to his car?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They got him after a pre-fight PR thing.
And he's like, oh shit!
And then ran.
Like, you know how he runs in the octagon?
He was like, doing that.
joe rogan
And so...
brendan schaub
He got away.
joe rogan
And he got in his car and drove off?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What happens?
You get in serious trouble, right?
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
Someone convinced him to come back.
Probably Dana was like, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
Well, you remember what happened with Vanderlei.
They banned Vanderlei for life.
They said, for life!
I don't think that was USADA, though.
I feel like that was Nevada.
brendan schaub
No, that was the Nevada Commission.
They're the same ones who wanted to ban Nick for life and fucking told Connor he owes him like $2 million and then he has to shoot a commercial for him.
joe rogan
$150,000.
brendan schaub
And shoot a commercial.
What?
Fuck you.
I'm not fighting here anymore.
Yeah.
Do you know that?
joe rogan
Yeah, what was the commercial?
brendan schaub
An anti-bullying commercial.
unidentified
Oh, they're hilarious.
brendan schaub
Listen, you pay us $150,000, shoot this commercial for free.
joe rogan
Why would I do an anti-bullying commercial when you're bullying me?
You're bullying me into doing an anti-bullying commercial?
brendan schaub
Or Connor should just be like, all right, well, cool, I'll do the commercial, but I'm going to give you my rate.
It's about $2 million to do a commercial right now.
I need about $1.7 million.
That's what I need.
You guys owe me that.
So I'll pay the fine, but you owe me $1.7 million to do the commercial.
joe rogan
There's a lady in the Nevada State Athletic Commission that's very mean.
You know that one lady?
brendan schaub
I think that's your job.
I'd be mean, too.
joe rogan
I forget who was...
Was it John Jones?
Was it Nick Diaz?
It might have been Nick Diaz.
But just the scolding that she was giving one of the fighters while this was all going down, when they were going over some sort of a positive test.
It's like...
Because they're government officials, so they feel like they have this power, and it becomes like a tyranny.
They're not nice.
You don't have a personal relationship with this guy.
You shouldn't have personal issues.
This stern-faced anger in your voice, you're in some sort of a competition.
To convict someone and to punish them.
brendan schaub
It's an ego thing.
joe rogan
Absolutely is.
It's not like, look, there can absolutely be, like, say what you want about the Golden Snitch, right, Nowitzki?
brendan schaub
I like it.
So when I call Golden Snitch, that's a positive term.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It's a fun thing to say.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's great.
Someone gave me a Golden Snitch toy last night.
You know from Harry Potter?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Oh, there's a golden snitch in Harry Potter.
joe rogan
Carry on, though.
Nowitzki is never angry about it, never emotional about it, very factual.
Like, when he describes what a thing was, he's not casting judgment.
He's not being mean.
He's just saying, this is what we have.
brendan schaub
He's doing his job.
joe rogan
He's doing his job.
brendan schaub
He's not sitting back going, God, I want to catch John with this Toronto ball shit.
God, I hope that happens.
He's not doing any of that.
Also, you've got to realize, when they brought on Nowitzki, is they were trying to paint the picture to sell it for the most money possible to be taken serious.
So you sign this huge Reebok endorsement deal.
You start doing...
joe rogan
It's a pump and dump.
Is that what you're saying?
It's a goddamn pump and dump.
brendan schaub
And then Frank and Lorenzo just sold the remaining shares, too.
Like, we're really out...
joe rogan
Yeah, someone was just telling me about how they do that with businesses.
Like, some businesses are not operating just to try to make a profit.
They're operating to sell.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
And I went, what?
And then this one guy was telling me that his friend had a business that was operating that way, but then it didn't sell.
The sell fell apart, so then they have to change the business plan.
And then start making it a business to make money.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
brendan schaub
Yeah, with the Fertittas, I mean, you're talking straight Mavericks when it comes to business.
So with all they have going on, they don't need the UFC to do well.
It doesn't help their lives.
joe rogan
Doesn't mean anything to them right now.
brendan schaub
So they look at it as a business.
So let's take these steps.
Well, the strict testing could fuck guys down the road.
Don't care.
Reebok this.
Don't care.
That's not our deal.
This is what's going to make it look best for buyers.
That's what we're doing.
$4 billion.
Go fuck yourselves.
Have fun, fellas.
joe rogan
Genius strategy, really, when you think about it that way.
brendan schaub
They'll probably teach it at Harvard.
What Dana and the Fertittas did, they'll probably teach it at Harvard.
joe rogan
Yeah, really think about it that way.
In terms of just a giant sum of money to be earned.
You know what?
They earned it, too, because you think about where the business was before they came along and how they were 40-plus million dollars in debt when they filmed The Ultimate Fighter.
They were losing so much fucking money.
Just hand over fist losing money.
At one point, Lorenzo had called Dana and said, let's sell it.
Try to find some buyers in the morning.
Then he woke up in the morning and changed his mind.
He's like, fuck that.
We're going to keep it.
I mean, that's how much money they were losing.
Not a lot of people would have done that.
brendan schaub
Depends how much money I have in the bank.
joe rogan
Yeah, but even with a lot of money in the bank, you can't just keep chewing through money.
If you're $40 million in, that means in a couple years you're $100 million in.
You're going to get that $100 million back?
Not very likely.
brendan schaub
How about their cousin bought the Houston Rockets for $2.2 billion?
That family is fucking...
joe rogan
Ballin'.
Hashtag ballin'.
Hashtag ballin'.
brendan schaub
Johnny Depp needs a...
joe rogan
Yeah, Johnny Depp does need a loan.
Someone needs to tell Johnny he doesn't need 14 houses.
Johnny, settle down.
brendan schaub
And a knife.
joe rogan
I mean, what kind of speed are you on when you sign the mortgage for that 14th house?
You're like, fuck it!
We're going in!
brendan schaub
Just killing it.
joe rogan
But that 14th house, like, holy shit.
brendan schaub
What do you do with those?
joe rogan
You don't do anything with them.
That's the problem.
brendan schaub
It's an ego thing?
joe rogan
Look at that.
Johnny Depp's Kentucky horse farm fails to sell at auction.
brendan schaub
How much did that bitch go for?
2.9.
joe rogan
Does it just happen, no matter what?
Like, look up, scroll up and look at that picture of him.
Does it just happen, no matter what, that after a while you almost become like a caricature?
unidentified
You become one of Tim Burton's characters?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you paint yourself as the odd fellow who's, you know, on the outside for the longest time, and then all of a sudden you become this blockbuster guy.
Because Johnny Depp for the longest time used to talk about, because he's a very respected actor.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
And he used to talk about how he doesn't want to be Mr. Blockbuster guy.
And then he gets on Pirates of the Caribbean.
He probably just thinks it's a cool part.
brendan schaub
But it's still Disney.
You know Disney don't fuck around.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it seems like a cool part.
I mean, so was Alice in Wonderland.
That didn't fuck his life up.
Alice in Wonderland was just great.
brendan schaub
Good movie.
joe rogan
He was a great movie and he was awesome in it.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
joe rogan
As the Mad Hatter.
I was the Mad Hatter for Halloween.
I dressed up like him.
unidentified
That's a dope costume.
brendan schaub
I saw that.
That was sick.
joe rogan
But he's, you know, he's a legit brilliant actor.
And then all of a sudden he's in this blockbuster that's a Disney thing.
So all of a sudden he becomes this like huge international, just top of the food chain superstar.
brendan schaub
Bro, he got a Jack Sparrow tattoo.
Ew.
He has the Sparrow on his forearm.
joe rogan
How would you feel like if I had a Fear Factor tattoo on my leg?
brendan schaub
A big MTV sign on your neck?
joe rogan
How about it right here?
I wasn't on MTV. Oh, that's right.
But if it was on my thigh and it just said, Fear is not a factor for me?
brendan schaub
On your ribs, fear is not a factor?
And you pull up in that slingshot?
Just a real dick move?
joe rogan
I would have to gold plate it.
I feel like that slingshot's missing some bling.
I need it to be shinier.
brendan schaub
Yeah, sometimes, I don't know, man.
With Johnny Depp, he just got too into it.
joe rogan
Well, I just think, you know, when you're on something that you don't enjoy, it's one thing that does happen.
It happens to a lot of people on bad sitcoms that are making a ton of money.
They just start going crazy and buying all these things because they need these things to make them feel good because their work doesn't.
brendan schaub
And the material.
joe rogan
Yeah, at least I'm working, but I'm going to get that new Ferrari.
That Ferrari 4, whatever the fuck it is.
459. 459. Is that the newest one?
brendan schaub
Whatever it is.
Keep going.
joe rogan
The top of the food chain, dope-ass Ferrari.
I mean, maybe you just like Ferraris, but then, you know, maybe you just buy a yacht, maybe you buy a this, and maybe you buy a that, and then you sign a deal to do the show that you don't even want to do anymore, but you have to sign that deal now, because you've got a $12 million mansion in Malibu!
Overlooking the ocean, motherfucker!
unidentified
Malibu!
brendan schaub
I think...
Doesn't Johnny Depp have anyone in his life go...
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
After Four House, he goes, God, you know, I might chill out on the fifth one, man.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
You're not really even staying in the other ones.
joe rogan
This is just a theory.
unidentified
At 10?
brendan schaub
No one's like, 10, bro?
I think we should take a break.
At 14?
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is just a theory.
But I think that one of the things about a guy like Johnny Depp is if you want...
And I don't know this Amber Heard lady.
Who he was living with.
She seems nice enough to me.
Very beautiful.
Matter of fact, I read somewhere that she was, like, some computer program said that she was the most beautiful person alive.
That didn't even make sense to me, right?
brendan schaub
Like, symmetrically, I guess, her eyes or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Well, my computer's different.
joe rogan
My thought is, well, she's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's cool.
joe rogan
But my thought is, when you're a dude like him, and you got a girl like that, and you're having a great time, one of the great things to do is probably just buy a ton of shit.
And just impress this girl.
And just take her on this journey.
brendan schaub
What kind of ho wants 14 houses?
joe rogan
He's going crazy!
Well, he didn't buy 14 houses with her.
I'm sure he only bought a few.
Okay, eight.
But he's going crazy.
He's buying all kinds of shit.
brendan schaub
And you think she loves that?
joe rogan
This is what I think.
I think things just escalate.
I think things just escalate.
brendan schaub
Spiral out of control.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You get away from yourself.
Next thing you know, you're standing on the fucking red carpet with eyeliner on, and silver chains, and your shirt is opening your chest, and you're acting like you're in some crazy indie rock band, and you're 53. You become a caricature.
unidentified
You're Jack Sparrow.
joe rogan
You start dressing like what you think people want to see instead of you.
And you kind of forget who you are, maybe.
I mean, I'm not just saying just him.
I'm not picking on him.
brendan schaub
Did you see Jim Carrey's latest interview?
joe rogan
Yes, I did.
I was going to bring that up.
brendan schaub
He's playing it.
Oh, were you?
But he's getting ready for a character who acts like that.
He's in character.
That's not Jim Carrey.
He's also my favorite human being, one of them.
But he's playing a character in that.
So he has a new role.
I forget who he's playing, but the guys...
jamie vernon
They announced yesterday he signed for a new show on Showtime where he's playing a comedian that's freaking out later in life or something like that.
brendan schaub
And that's what he's doing.
joe rogan
He was a part of the whole I'm dying up here thing.
He's a producer.
Yeah.
So he's playing a character of a comedian who's freaking out.
brendan schaub
Who freaks out like that.
Like that's typical to that role.
So that's kind of what he's doing there.
joe rogan
He was supposed to play, or at least there's a rumor, that he was supposed to play Terrence McKenna.
In some sort of biography, the famed psychedelic adventurer Terrence McKenna.
brendan schaub
He'd be great on that.
joe rogan
Oh, he'd be amazing on it.
brendan schaub
Did you see him as Andy Dufresne?
I'm sorry, Andy Kaufman?
jamie vernon
I was going to say, this video went around of him painting, too.
Yeah, he's got some really cool painting that he's been doing recently.
It's a real cool little piece.
joe rogan
That doesn't look recent.
It looks a lot younger there.
jamie vernon
I think this has been probably a two or three year time period that this got made over.
It's a six-minute video.
brendan schaub
Did you ever see his daughter?
joe rogan
That's cool stuff, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a sick painter.
joe rogan
That thing with the neon and black.
Go back to that for a second, Jamie.
The thing with the neon and black that he was just...
That is amazing.
brendan schaub
Super talented.
joe rogan
That's really cool looking.
brendan schaub
Did you see his daughter when she was on American Idol?
And the poor girl's getting ready to sing, you know, the biggest night of her life.
Like, let's go and wire it in to her famous father, Jim Carrey.
Jim's all, uh, hey.
He's like on Skype.
He's like, hey, baby, good luck.
They're like, take it away, little Carrey.
I'm like, oh, God.
What a shitty moment, man, for her.
Like, let her have her moment, man.
Don't bring your dad's Jim Carrey, for God's sakes.
joe rogan
Well, that's just television, man.
That's how they do it.
They go 100% cheese or don't go at all.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
They want to appeal to Joe Slackjaw sitting on his easy chair at home, just like this.
brendan schaub
But I feel like even Joe Slackjaw doesn't like that bullshit.
joe rogan
There's enough people that do, and enough people that'll tolerate it.
See?
brendan schaub
Ratings make to differ.
joe rogan
Well, they don't really.
unidentified
They do, though.
joe rogan
They still have good ratings.
It's just a tired show.
brendan schaub
Well, it depends what it is.
If you think about most shows, ratings are down in general, but look at things that are more organic and real, like your show, like other podcasts, like other shows on YouTube, stuff like that, where it's not so bullshit, producer telling you how to feel, what opinions you should have.
joe rogan
But they're stuck in that model because they have commercials.
They're stuck in that model because those commercials that they have to interrupt their show with, everything has to kind of wrap up every few minutes.
I get it.
How many minutes do they go without commercials on a regular television show?
brendan schaub
Well, Bubble Guppies lets you play the full thing, but...
joe rogan
I used to like bubblegubbies.
My kids love it.
brendan schaub
Oh, my kid's obsessed.
joe rogan
They loved it when they were really little.
Let's find that out.
jamie vernon
On a 22-minute show?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It's like seven minutes or so.
joe rogan
Every seven minutes?
jamie vernon
Roughly.
joe rogan
So every seven minutes for a sitcom, do you think they do the same for an hour show?
jamie vernon
The breaks are different depending on the show, but it's like 12 minutes, 20 minutes.
joe rogan
You can never get real deep.
brendan schaub
What if they front-loaded it like podcasting does?
joe rogan
No one's going to watch that part.
brendan schaub
No one's watching me anyways.
jamie vernon
Sometimes they do that, like, this show is brought to you commercial-free by, and then you don't get it, but they still announce that every fucking day.
joe rogan
That's probably the way to do it.
That's probably the way to do it, or product placement is the way to do it.
Just don't be gross.
brendan schaub
Ooh, product placement's tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just can't be gross about it.
I mean, if someone is drinking a Coke, show a Coke.
There's nothing wrong with that, as long as, you know, it makes sense for the scene.
You know what I mean?
Like, the idea that you're going to put stuff in there that doesn't belong for product placement, well, that's gross.
But if you could figure out some way where it's organic, I just think the model is terrible.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
There you go.
brendan schaub
It's so hilarious.
joe rogan
Like that.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's all, what the fuck?
Powerful Rob Lowe.
Handsome.
Dimey.
Very handsome.
But I think they're going to start gravitating towards more of that realness.
They have to.
People smell bullshit now.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Joe Slackjaw sitting in his armchair...
In rural Illinois.
Sorry to pick on you, Illinois.
It's just I picked a state.
I could say Massachusetts.
brendan schaub
Whatever.
Montana.
joe rogan
But he's just sitting there, and he's got his mouth open.
And maybe that appeals to him, and maybe you'll tolerate it.
And then there's that whole spectrum in between.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Of people that, like, this is my favorite show.
I love it when people can't sing.
I fucking love it.
I love it when they get up there, and they try to sing, and their voice cracks, and you know they're embarrassed.
Oh, that makes me feel so good.
People do...
I used to love it.
When I'd watch American Idol, my favorite part was the people that sucked.
brendan schaub
Me too.
That's my favorite.
When they get all serious, that's like, oh, relax, man.
joe rogan
Hey, hey, hey, I gotta go.
brendan schaub
All right, you're good.
I'm out.
joe rogan
Whatever happened to that lady who was like...
She looked like she was in her 50s.
brendan schaub
Oh, and her teeth were all fucked up?
joe rogan
Susan Boyle.
brendan schaub
That's America's Got Talent.
joe rogan
Which one was that?
jamie vernon
X Factor in England.
unidentified
X Factor.
joe rogan
Was it X Factor?
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
What happened to her?
joe rogan
Is that Simon Cowell guys on everything?
brendan schaub
He's ridiculous.
I heard she got like...
joe rogan
Hashtag ballin'.
brendan schaub
Crazy ballin'.
Loves black girls.
I heard...
Not that that matters.
Who doesn't?
Right.
I heard Susan Boyle got paid bank and was like, fuck this fame thing.
unidentified
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Found her.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
And someone's like, use some of the money on her teeth.
jamie vernon
Britain's Got Talent.
Britain's Got Talent.
brendan schaub
Remember how great she was?
joe rogan
Dude!
Remember when they just didn't expect it and she came out and just smashed it?
brendan schaub
Smashed it.
jamie vernon
Don't let her bite you though.
joe rogan
I remember I watched that clip and I was like, whoa!
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
That is crazy that she can sing that good.
jamie vernon
She is right now.
It's her today.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
She's turned 50. What?
joe rogan
Hold on.
brendan schaub
She just turned 50?
joe rogan
She's my age?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How's that possible?
Well, that's crazy.
That scares the fucking shit out of me.
brendan schaub
You're aging like cheese, she's aging like fruit.
joe rogan
Wow, she's gotta use it or lose it, baby.
brendan schaub
She's using her voice, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, but your body carries the voice around.
jamie vernon
I'm sure she's still probably singing here and there.
She doesn't, like, tour.
brendan schaub
I know she kind of bounced out of the spotlight, though.
joe rogan
Well, she lives simple.
Or she made money.
She probably made a ton of money.
Weight loss photos.
brendan schaub
Oh, she's 56, son.
jamie vernon
So that was when that was...
joe rogan
Can't even count.
brendan schaub
When she won, she was 50. We'll see what Brogan looks like in six years, talking about that shit.
joe rogan
I'll probably look like her.
Yeah, all those talent shows are fucking weird, man.
You know, America's Got Talent, and...
What's the one with...
Is it Jennifer Lopez is on one of them now?
brendan schaub
Oh, she has a dance show, right?
joe rogan
And then that country music guy is on with that other girl.
jamie vernon
I'm about to bring back American Idol right now with Katy Perry hosting.
They're paying like 25 million bucks to be on that.
brendan schaub
Oh, Jesus!
Some crazy amount of money to host it.
He's like, hell no.
joe rogan
He would be on to...
Donald Trump hates black people!
unidentified
How about Donald Trump going hard at ESPN? Yeah, but he's wrong.
He's so wrong.
joe rogan
He's like, people are leaving?
No, their ratings are up.
Like, that's so crazy.
brendan schaub
Ratings aren't up.
joe rogan
Are they down?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're down.
jamie vernon
Not because of that, though.
brendan schaub
Not because of him.
joe rogan
Oh, somebody said that their ratings are up, though.
They're like, recent ratings.
brendan schaub
Maybe.
joe rogan
I just read things and I just go with them.
jamie vernon
NFL's back.
I mean, they're just up because the summer's over.
brendan schaub
But in general, they're down.
They had all those cuts.
They had to cut a bunch of people, budget cuts.
They cut so much talent.
But that...
What's her name?
Jamel Hill.
Jamel Hill came out and was like on her...
Granted, she is an employee of VSPN, but on her personal social media on Twitter, she was saying he's a racist, stuff like this.
joe rogan
She said he's a white supremacist, and she said he's the worst president of her lifetime, and a lot of people said that.
It's just the fact that she's a public media figure, so everybody wanted her fired.
This is like this weird outrage culture we live in.
She's entitled to her fucking opinion.
Now, the thing is, does ESPN want people on their network being all political and talking about shit like that on their social media?
And do they have rules about that?
Because some companies do have rules about that.
Whether you agree with those rules or not, some companies do have rules on what you can and can't say on social media.
But here's the thing that I found fascinating.
Donald Trump didn't talk about her.
Talked about ESPN. I thought that was a chicken shit thing to do.
Like there was a woman who works for ESPN. African American.
Oh, yes, that's true.
That's what I'm saying.
There's a woman that works for ESPN, a very specific person, not ESPN, you know, telling lies, should apologize or whatever the fuck he wrote.
brendan schaub
He didn't call her out.
joe rogan
He didn't call her out.
brendan schaub
I think he's...
joe rogan
He knows.
He can't do it.
Especially not now when everybody thinks you're a white supremacist.
You're going to pick on the black lady?
He'd pick on Rosie O'Donnell all day long, right?
He'll go after everybody else, call him a loser.
jamie vernon
The girl in Miss America in her little speech slammed him too.
She said a whole bunch of shit about him and apparently no one's really gay.
joe rogan
Who's the host?
Is that Kirk Cameron?
jamie vernon
No, I don't know.
joe rogan
Looks like Kirk Cameron.
brendan schaub
That's homeboy from Survivor.
jamie vernon
What?
joe rogan
Who is it from Survivor?
brendan schaub
Oh, I'm sorry, not from Survivor, from Bachelor Bachelorette.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
brendan schaub
You ever seen him get roasted when he's accused of cheating on his girl?
jamie vernon
Classic.
brendan schaub
Anyways, yeah, that Miss America throws it down.
jamie vernon
Yeah, she said a bunch of shit about Trump and no one's going after her necessarily.
She's quote-unquote gaining millions of fans right now.
joe rogan
Right, but what's interesting is I watched someone posted something about Anthony Bourdain.
Anthony Bourdain was caught by TMZ at the airport, okay?
Very quick, sort of silly interview.
They asked him a question, if you had to cook for Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump, what would you serve?
And he goes, hemlock.
And he walks away.
It's a joke!
It's a fucking one-liner!
brendan schaub
He's also funny.
joe rogan
He's a funny guy.
He says a one-liner, and all these people are saying, should he be fired from CNN for saying that he would poison Trump if he had, you know, good luck, the Secret Service is going to contact you.
And so I look at his fucking Twitter page, man, and it's crazy.
All these fucking psychos are telling the Secret Service they should investigate at CNN. Are you going to fire him like you fired Reza Aslan?
brendan schaub
What's wrong with people, man?
joe rogan
Outrage culture.
People are getting excited about things being outrageous.
Instead of just going, this weed has got me coughing.
Instead of just looking at it and going, well, I don't agree with that.
Fuck that guy.
Or going, well, that was obviously a joke, which is like the normal person would do.
It affects you like not at all.
Do you really think that Anthony Bourdain wants to fucking poison Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un?
brendan schaub
And they should lose their jobs?
Exactly.
She's amazing, by the way.
Outrage culture.
joe rogan
Outrage culture.
People just decide they can try to affect something, and then things start getting ramped up.
The momentum kicks in, all these other people jump on board, and they get excited about being a part of a group that wants to get Anthony Bourdain kicked off the air.
brendan schaub
Because they want some sort of weird direction.
They think they're important enough where they can get these people fired, and they think if they get together enough, they're going to have the power to affect that person's life.
joe rogan
And they can even believe they're right.
brendan schaub
Bunch of bitches, right?
joe rogan
And I kept saying, you know, threatening the life of POTUS. I kept saying POTUS, like, you guys, what are you talking about, the king?
You guys are out of your mind.
This is a person with a terrible job.
brendan schaub
This ain't Game of Thrones.
joe rogan
Donald Trump is a person with a job that no one wants, okay?
That's what he is.
He doesn't want it.
Is he doing a good job at it?
No.
But is anybody doing a good job at it?
No.
I think Obama was like the best president we ever had.
And you look at...
And I know people are going to get mad at me for this.
A lot of things that I think that he did that I don't agree with.
Like the way he went after the press.
The way he promised to protect whistleblowers, but he never did.
Like free speech and people having to give up their sources was...
Damaged heavily during Obama's administration.
The use of drones, unprecedented use of drones, unprecedented amount of civilian deaths during his administration.
The question is, how much of that was his fault?
How much can one man even control?
I mean, I think it's an impossible fucking job.
But the way he carries himself, like a person, I love more than anybody.
brendan schaub
His character.
joe rogan
His character, the way he can enunciate clearly.
To me, he was like a good representative of what I would like to see as a calm, peaceful, educated American who's smart and is just affable.
He seems friendly and nice.
brendan schaub
He seems like one of us.
He's the first president that kind of seemed like one of us where you could chill with him and I could actually relate to him.
joe rogan
Yes, the only one.
brendan schaub
White House and a dick suck.
joe rogan
I think if I was alone with Clinton, I probably wouldn't be able to jive with him.
I just don't think, especially if you're alone and there's a chick in the room, I think he'd look right past you.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you'd be like a distraction.
You'd be the cock block with him in the room.
Obama's not like that.
joe rogan
He's a straight up rooster.
I think Clinton's a straight up rooster.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I feel you.
joe rogan
He's in that room.
He's like...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He just can't help himself.
brendan schaub
Yeah, cocky.
joe rogan
He's just got that...
He's just slinging dick.
brendan schaub
That's what he's here for.
That's what I'm here for.
joe rogan
I'm here to sling dick.
I ain't got time to talk to some fucking old comedian.
I'm here to sling dick.
Oh, you were a fan of me.
You voted for me.
Great.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out.
unidentified
That was a long time ago, fuckface.
I'm over here trying to get my dick wet.
joe rogan
Listen, love to talk to you, but I ain't got that much time.
Have you looked at me lately, motherfucker?
I'm dying.
Okay, I'm here for pussy.
brendan schaub
And you're fucking this up, man.
Fucking hilarious.
That's exactly what I think.
joe rogan
I'm here for pussy.
Have you ever been on Air Force One?
You know, I still get to use it.
unidentified
Does he?
joe rogan
I wonder if they still get to use it.
brendan schaub
They get Secret Service for the rest of their lives, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but how do they fly around?
Do they fly around commercial?
brendan schaub
It seems odd.
Although, President Carter was on a train high-fiving everyone.
joe rogan
Yeah, but President Carter was a beautiful person.
That's why he only lasted one term.
You know, they've negotiated with the hostages like in Iran to make sure that the hostages weren't released until after Ronald Reagan was elected president.
That is some dirty, dirty shit.
That means you kept Americans imprisoned extra so that you would look good and they would be released when this fucking actor with slick black hair Gotta crack a few eggs and make an omelet, my man.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
It's so dirty.
None of that stuff surprises me when it comes to politics or sports.
None of it surprises me.
It's all business.
joe rogan
Reagan was also the first guy who used the religious groups of our country to get elected.
He got them on board with him.
brendan schaub
Do what you gotta do.
joe rogan
Well, he brought in religion to politics in a lot of ways or made it popular and obvious that that was a good choice to align yourself.
No president today could be an atheist.
I don't think they would elect him.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
joe rogan
Really?
What are they living for?
They're out there in the White House?
What if they launch a nuclear bomb?
They think that the end doesn't mean anything, okay?
I'm here for God's heavenly glory.
My heavenly father, I'm looking over my heavenly father right now.
brendan schaub
What's the percentage of atheists in the United States now?
It's higher than ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's still low.
brendan schaub
I don't think so, man.
unidentified
It's higher than ever.
It's less than half.
joe rogan
No way!
brendan schaub
Well, half, fuck's sakes.
joe rogan
But I think it's less than half.
brendan schaub
Probably 30%.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you need those if you want to run for president.
Because people are more concerned about the Lord than they are about anything else.
Okay, 22% of the U.S. population is religiously unaffiliated.
Atheists make up 3.1%.
Agnostists make up 4% of the U.S. population.
So 22%.
So it says that 22%, but it says they're religiously unaffiliated.
brendan schaub
Those are votes for the atheist president.
joe rogan
But I don't know if that means religiously unaffiliated.
Like, they could believe in God, but they just don't belong to a certain church.
brendan schaub
Nah, we getting those votes.
joe rogan
Okay, 214 general.
Yeah, those votes, I think, would go towards a religious person if that person...
Go back, please.
If the person believes in God, the 214 General Social Survey reported that 21% of Americans had no religion, with 3% being atheists and 5% agnostic.
That's not even as much as I thought.
It's not that many people, man.
That's a bummer.
You cannot be, I just don't think, I shouldn't say this in a blanket term, because maybe it can happen, but I just think it's not a good strategy if you're just trying to get into office.
Because Trump was never religious, and now he talks about God all the time.
Now it's all, you know, God this and God that.
It's a strategy.
I mean, it's like words that you have to say, like ma'am and sir, that don't totally make sense to you.
brendan schaub
Well, did you, I heard the, uh, I think the governor or maybe it's the mayor of Florida when the hurricane is about to hit, I'm watching, I'm just balls deep in it on the hurricane stuff.
He's interviewing, he goes, you know what, you know, your money's great, but the biggest thing is you just pray for us.
Just keep praying for us.
That's all we need.
We need your prayers before this thing hits.
I'm like, dude, you better figure shit out.
Like that, that, it sounds good.
And he was, everything, just keep praying for us.
Just pray.
That's all I ask.
Everyone here pray for us.
I'm like, man, you need more than that, brother.
joe rogan
I get it.
May it work, bro.
jamie vernon
Did you see this going around yesterday afternoon?
Facebook got in trouble after some people were digging into the advertising thing that was going around also yesterday with the algorithms.
Some people were looking into the Russian.
I think someone uncovered that $100,000 had been paid to either some Russian ad agency or something.
I didn't follow the exact story, but digging into that, they found this.
brendan schaub
Jew-haters?
joe rogan
What's the ad?
jamie vernon
An algorithm created this tag to people and labeled them as Jew-haters, and so someone could buy a targeted ad to them, and what I guess they were assuming is that Trump people did it, or they were...
joe rogan
Hold on.
brendan schaub
Hold on.
joe rogan
You're not saying this right.
jamie vernon
Sorry.
joe rogan
Explain this more clearly.
So someone could put an ad on your page...
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
I could put out an ad if I was buying for Hillary, for instance, in this situation, or for Trump, and target it towards people that were labeled as Jew-haters.
brendan schaub
Only the Jew-haters will see it.
jamie vernon
Within Facebook.
joe rogan
Okay, so Facebook has a category of Jew-haters?
jamie vernon
And they're saying it was done by a computer algorithm, not by a person.
It just sort of happened.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, and it's still being uncovered right now.
Yesterday, Jew Haters was trending on Twitter, and I was like, what is going on?
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
That's why Facebook advertising is the best that there is, for anyone.
joe rogan
Because of the algorithms.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because you can pick out a certain demographic.
If you have a show in San Francisco or in L.A., you can literally pick everyone in a 10-mile radius, and they will see that ad.
joe rogan
But that is such a crazy thing.
brendan schaub
So for a Jew hater, you can figure it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what a crazy thing, the idea that you could reach a group of...
How about don't allow those people to be there?
Don't let them make Jewish accounts.
jamie vernon
In the same vein, I was going to ask you a second ago, when you said you were looking at Anthony Bourdain's Twitter account, you saw a bunch of hate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Do you think that that could be bots?
joe rogan
Let me correct that.
It wasn't Anthony Bourdain's Twitter account.
It was under the tweet by TMZ that showed the video.
Then there was all the hate.
But I'm sure they probably went to his.
jamie vernon
This makes it even easier to do then.
You could specifically buy Buy that hate for cheap.
unidentified
You can buy that, but they also hire people that might be multiple trolls.
joe rogan
What does that mean, buy that hate?
jamie vernon
You could send the messages that you want, you could set up a couple keywords, and 500 accounts will just start sending those messages out.
brendan schaub
Fake accounts?
jamie vernon
Yeah, but how many people are going to go look through to find out how many of those accounts are fake?
joe rogan
Okay, but do you have to write out the tweet for those fake accounts?
jamie vernon
It'll fill in the words.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
So how do you know if someone is doing that?
jamie vernon
Great question.
They're finding that on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.
They're finding it everywhere on the internet right now.
joe rogan
How do they know?
brendan schaub
Well, they can tell by the algorithms and the computer programmers can figure it out.
joe rogan
Can they?
brendan schaub
Fake accounts for sure.
And that's why when Twitter and Instagram, they can do a flush of all those bot accounts.
So you'll see a lot of people's followers, like Kim Kardashian, she lost like 3 million because they're a bunch of bot accounts, like fake accounts.
joe rogan
Well, there's so many fake...
I thought she lost 3 million when people saw her real ass.
Good lord.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Did you see that?
brendan schaub
No.
I've seen the porno.
joe rogan
Did you see that Mexican disaster?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
She was on the beach in Mexico and she didn't have her own photographer.
Here's the thing.
Do whatever you want.
I don't want to body shame.
Yes, I do.
But let me just explain my position on this.
When she shows all these pictures of her giant, perfect ass, she's showing an extremely unrealistic representation of a human being.
So what she does is she hires a photographer to follow her everywhere and take pictures, and then they Photoshop the shit out of them, they clean away all the lumps, and then she looks amazing, right?
So when she was on the beach, They were taking pictures of her and she didn't know they were there.
brendan schaub
That is a dumper.
joe rogan
That's gross.
brendan schaub
That is a dumper.
joe rogan
Okay, but here's the thing.
That's not real.
That is all fat that someone stuffed into your ass like a giant diaper.
And when they smooth it out and put it on Instagram with all the retouches and everything like that, this forces women to think that this is possible.
But this is normal.
brendan schaub
My girl's ass beasters, by the way.
joe rogan
But it's real.
brendan schaub
It's real.
joe rogan
And she's got a body that makes sense.
brendan schaub
And she makes her look like Mr. Burns' ass.
joe rogan
Heck, if you have a giant head and then a tiny little nose, like one of them plastic surgery noses, people are going to go, hey, what's going on here?
This isn't right.
Like, you did something weird.
What she's doing is, it's not only not hot, the problem is she becomes famous and then it becomes a thing that people do.
Now, hold on.
Remember when we were talking about wigs?
Weren't you here when we were talking about powdered wigs?
Was that you?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was you and me that had big wigs.
joe rogan
Think about that.
These fucking guys with syphilis that were losing their hair and started wearing wigs, everybody started shaving their head and wearing those goddamn powdered wigs because they looked like those guys.
They wanted to be cool.
brendan schaub
You cannot hate on Kim Kardashian for making asses cool, my man.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
She's done us a service.
How dare you?
joe rogan
It's not a real ass.
She didn't make asses cool.
J-Lo made asses cool way before Kim Kardashian.
brendan schaub
I saw her ass in person.
unidentified
And her shit was legit.
brendan schaub
Super legit.
I'm tight.
joe rogan
That's a real ass.
This is a disaster.
brendan schaub
This is my problem with Kim Kardashian.
Not my problem with Kim Kardashian.
Granted, she's influenced a lot of people, and I would not kick her out of bed for you fucking graham crackers.
joe rogan
Look at those pictures.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Those pictures have been sent to a cartoonist.
brendan schaub
Yeah, whatever.
They're not real.
The problem is, is her sister, her little sister.
So, like, my nanny's daughter's always around our house.
She's 12?
She's in seventh grade.
Every, most girls, especially in middle school, high school, everyone looks at Kylie Jenner like she's a fucking, like she's Prince Diana.
Like they think she's the shit.
Have you seen what that bitch has gone through?
It's insane, the plastic surgery you said.
You're talking complete reconstruction of her face, body, ass, titties, ribs.
Completely different person.
joe rogan
Skull reconstruction.
brendan schaub
It's nuts, man.
joe rogan
You shaved her chin down.
brendan schaub
Yes, and cheekbones to make her look like Kim and her ass.
joe rogan
Dude, they cut into the bone in her jaw.
brendan schaub
When she was 16. What the fuck are we doing?
But now all these little girls look up to her like she's this huge role model.
And I ask them, like, why?
Why do you like her?
They're like, just the life.
And then, you know, she comes out with all this stuff.
She has Louis Vuitton.
She's driving G-Wagons and all this.
And they think, like, oh, that's what I need to get to.
unidentified
Listen to me, man.
joe rogan
Big wigs.
brendan schaub
Big wigs.
joe rogan
It's the same thing.
It's the same goddamn thing.
It's those dudes wearing wigs that everybody sees and they think they're the shit and so they want to copy them.
That's why it's dangerous.
brendan schaub
A wig's different though.
joe rogan
It is, but it's not.
brendan schaub
Same theory.
joe rogan
But it's the same theory.
It's the same thing that happens to people.
But what she's doing is bonkers.
But it doesn't matter.
It becomes a trend and then people get sucked into that trend and she becomes important.
brendan schaub
Here's why I'm mad at myself.
I'm not mad at her.
unidentified
Stop it all.
joe rogan
I don't want to look at these pictures.
Stop it, Jamie.
brendan schaub
Jamie loves the shit.
joe rogan
He's like, yes, they're talking gossip.
brendan schaub
Jamie's like me.
jamie vernon
I'm the one explaining all of it?
joe rogan
Okay.
He'll come in.
Jamie will come in.
Do you hear what happened with Beyonce and Jay-Z? I'll go, no!
I'm with you, Jay.
brendan schaub
I'm with you, man.
unidentified
I'm the same.
joe rogan
Beyonce and Jay-Z are apparently having issues.
Having issues?
brendan schaub
Did you hear the tweet?
jamie vernon
Kanye and Jay-Z are back.
joe rogan
They're back together?
Yes.
Figured it out.
Get him his fucking Ritalin.
brendan schaub
But with her, I get why people look at her and go, she's beautiful.
I'm mad at myself being like, goddamn, she's fine, man.
unidentified
She's beautiful.
brendan schaub
She's hot.
joe rogan
She's not an ugly woman.
brendan schaub
No, no.
She's sexy now.
joe rogan
You mean the young daughter?
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Oh, I thought you were talking about Kim.
brendan schaub
Oh, no.
Kim's great.
I'm talking about Kylie, who I think she's 21. But before, you know, basic white girl.
Average, flat-ass white girl.
Then now she's this video vixen.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
And I'm not mad at her.
joe rogan
Didn't she think that grabbing that ass would be like a water balloon?
brendan schaub
Have you ever felt...
joe rogan
No.
What's it like?
brendan schaub
Pretty glorious.
joe rogan
Really?
A fake one?
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
Not if they have implants.
But they can take fat from their stomach or their thighs and they inject the fat into the ass.
No difference.
joe rogan
Right, but when they waddle over to the bathroom and you see their ass going back and forth like a waterbed, doesn't that freak you out?
Nah, it encourages me to do.
There was a video of, what is that, Iggy Azalea?
brendan schaub
Iggy Azalea.
joe rogan
Whatever her name is.
brendan schaub
Is that right?
joe rogan
There was a video of her shaking her ass and someone sent it to me.
They go, dude, what in the fuck is this?
brendan schaub
Was it cool?
joe rogan
No.
She's wearing these skin-tight pants, and as she's shaking her ass, it's like...
You ever try to fuck on a waterbed?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a nightmare.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had one when I was 21. It was a disaster.
brendan schaub
I had one as a kid.
joe rogan
And then I swapped it out for one with baffles, which is actually pretty badass.
A waterbed that is...
Yeah, baffles are, it's not one giant bag.
It's a bunch of tubes.
brendan schaub
That makes more sense.
joe rogan
So that when you get in there, it's pretty firm, but you feel the cool, the warmth in the waterbed.
Oh, that sounds nice.
It's pretty dope.
And you can fuck with one of those.
But with the other one, it's like...
brendan schaub
Nightmare.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a nightmare.
brendan schaub
It's like trying to fuck on a whale.
unidentified
It's horrible.
brendan schaub
That's a fucking nightmare.
joe rogan
It's like trying to fuck while you're paddleboarding.
brendan schaub
It's trying to fuck on one of those vibrating machines.
It's just a nightmare.
joe rogan
So that's what her ass looks like.
She's shaking her ass and it's going back and forth and back and forth like some crazy ass camel thing.
Like you're storing water in that thing.
brendan schaub
Ass camel?
joe rogan
It's like a camel hump.
brendan schaub
Storing fruit back there?
joe rogan
She's storing water in it.
It's like there's something going on.
It doesn't make any sense.
Who's this?
brendan schaub
I mean, I'm not...
joe rogan
That's fine right there.
That's not the video.
brendan schaub
That's a music video.
joe rogan
There was a video of her dancing on stage.
brendan schaub
See, I wish I didn't like that stuff.
joe rogan
In pink pants.
Yeah, but this is like...
This is a...
brendan schaub
That's a music video.
joe rogan
You might as well be looking at it.
That's a cartoon.
It's different colors.
It's negative, you know?
brendan schaub
But that's the culture we live in.
That's what we like.
joe rogan
Not we, sir.
Not we.
brendan schaub
You don't like big titties and big asses.
joe rogan
I don't like that disaster, and I don't like the trend.
brendan schaub
I didn't ask that.
You like big titties and asses.
joe rogan
I like CrossFit chicks.
I like chicks that do squats and shit.
I like chicks that look good.
They look strong and healthy.
That's what looks good to me.
brendan schaub
Like Callan's strong and healthy type of chicks?
joe rogan
Callan?
He's not here.
Let's leave him out of this.
brendan schaub
Well, Callan loves the big, bulky, shredded girl who, if she had a dick, you'd be like, oh, that makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
I'm into girls that look like girls.
brendan schaub
You like fit girls.
joe rogan
They look like girls who lift.
brendan schaub
Me too.
I'm with that.
joe rogan
That way, when you see their ass, you know that is an earned ass.
That's not some fat experiment in Dr. Frankenstein's lab.
I don't have to picture you with a tube running down your mouth to keep you alive.
But you got a fucking, you know, your nose is taped up and you're lying there with your eyes rolled back in your head while they fucking pumping into your ass like a caulking gun.
brendan schaub
They're both at the same...
No, it's not!
It just depends, Joe.
joe rogan
The woman doesn't look as healthy, they're not as vibrant.
You see, a woman that's in shape...
brendan schaub
She has some calluses with her dick up, though.
joe rogan
Like a man who's in shape.
It's the same thing.
People like things that are healthy.
You're talking about sex, right?
You don't want to have sex with someone who's sick.
Right?
You don't want to have sex with someone who doesn't feel good.
You don't want to have sex with someone who's like, I'm barely making it.
Like, if you get a staph infection because someone's been pumping fat into your asshole, and then all of a sudden you're feeling sad, but you still have this big ass, is that sexy?
No!
brendan schaub
That's not fun.
joe rogan
It's not exciting.
Like, you're looking at an unhealthy person's body, like, you look at her body like, that's not a working out body.
She doesn't work out.
If she does, she's working hard.
That's a lazy person's body.
brendan schaub
For sure.
They want results, they want tomorrow.
joe rogan
And I'm not saying lazy person like, mom, that is a full-time job.
Listen, if you can't work out, I'm not blaming you.
If you don't want to work out, I'm not blaming you.
But if your fucking job is only to be a professional hot chick, and that's your body.
brendan schaub
Bitch, you better work out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You gotta get on that horse.
brendan schaub
At least eat organic.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about!
I like that.
brendan schaub
I also love that.
joe rogan
Woo!
I like a gal.
I like a gal who does some deadlifts.
I like how she's using those pads to cover her shins.
There's something gross about girls with scarred up shins.
Unless they fight.
Unless they do Muay Thai.
And then it's kind of hot again.
brendan schaub
Even then.
joe rogan
Then it's hot again.
brendan schaub
Even then.
joe rogan
Just a gangster-ass chick with...
brendan schaub
That was a good picture, Jamie.
joe rogan
I feel like bodies should be earned in the gym.
I mean, I just feel like pumping some stuff into your ass is...
brendan schaub
What about titties, then?
joe rogan
But it's a trick.
brendan schaub
What about titties?
joe rogan
That's where I vacillate.
brendan schaub
Exactly, sir.
This is where I find holes in your game.
joe rogan
But here's the thing, you can't earn titties.
That's why I let it go.
Because you can't earn them.
You can earn an ass.
brendan schaub
Well, kind of.
Some genetics.
joe rogan
A little bit.
brendan schaub
Some of us genetics.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, come on.
Let's just be honest about what we're talking about here.
brendan schaub
You can do some squats and deadlift, some lunges, build that ass up, eat carbs.
joe rogan
And even the genetics thing.
How much?
You could probably affect it.
You might not be able to get to J-Lo levels, but I bet you get to pretty perky levels.
brendan schaub
Sometimes.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know who's doing what.
I don't know how they're working out.
I don't know if they got a good trainer.
I don't know if they lift heavy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'd have to see their program.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to see their program.
You'd have to find out what their diet is.
People make a lot of goddamn excuses.
brendan schaub
True, but sometimes genetics are genetics.
Like, Jamie's not going to get as big as fucking Yoel Romero.
It's just not in the cards.
joe rogan
100% true, right?
Genetics do come into factor, but when you just blame genetics for everything, it's like, okay, but did you work?
How hard did you work?
brendan schaub
Did you try?
joe rogan
Did you advance at all?
unidentified
Yeah, I agree.
joe rogan
Where was your starting point?
Where are you at now?
And how much effort did you put in along the way?
brendan schaub
And you're cool with titties because- Oh, Lord!
joe rogan
That's a real woman's ass!
brendan schaub
She is so real.
She's 40 how old?
joe rogan
80. 85 years old.
She might be 50. You know what the good thing about that?
You can shoot loads in there all day long and nothing's happening.
brendan schaub
All day long.
joe rogan
No one's home.
brendan schaub
Yep.
Game over.
jamie vernon
I think they're about to have a kid or they're trying to.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
A-Rod and her?
unidentified
They're trying to.
joe rogan
Everybody's trying to.
You're all practicing.
brendan schaub
I would try.
I saw her at the fight and I was like, I would impregnate her right now and figure it out.
joe rogan
No, she's probably still viable for another four or five years.
brendan schaub
With her genetics?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, she is a straight smoke show.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's superior genetics.
That's Latina superior genetics.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
But also hard work.
She works out hard, man.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen her dance routines and all the stuff that she does?
unidentified
She works out hard.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, she's a professional hot chick who's also a singer, who's also an actress.
brendan schaub
She has talent.
These other girls' talent out do not.
joe rogan
Right.
But she also works hard.
unidentified
See?
joe rogan
Super hard.
That's what I think.
brendan schaub
That's sexy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's what I think, like, if you want to aspire, like, if you want to be a man, right?
You want to be built like The Rock, right?
I see The Rock on the fucking Instagram, in the gym, every goddamn day.
unidentified
We're out here.
joe rogan
We're getting it done.
You know, nobody works harder.
All right.
Have a good day, everybody!
He's all inspiring and shit.
He's jacked to the fucking gills.
He looks huge, right?
brendan schaub
Clearly, MPDs, but yeah.
joe rogan
Clearly.
But that's an earned physique.
He's not stuffing fucking silicone plates in his muscles to puff him up.
He's not injecting synthol in there to look like one of them crazy Popeye dudes.
brendan schaub
He's injecting other stuff, though.
It's a form.
joe rogan
But he's working out hard.
brendan schaub
True, to get there.
joe rogan
He's working out hard.
I don't know what his test levels are.
They're probably elevated.
It's working!
It's working hard!
The point is, even with drugs, that's accessible.
It's still hard work.
Yes, and it's still a real muscle.
Where I draw the line.
Look, if girls could take a steroid that made them grow an ass, There wouldn't be a flat ass on the planet Earth!
brendan schaub
Only in England.
joe rogan
There would be no girls!
The difference between girls and men is that.
Because there's a lot of guys who don't want to take steroids.
They're like, fuck that, I'm not gonna do that.
brendan schaub
Most of them don't.
joe rogan
If steroids existed for women's asses, it would be as common as Botox.
They would all be jamming it in there.
brendan schaub
Even more common.
joe rogan
Even more.
It'd be like being on the pill.
brendan schaub
It'd be like here or die.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Every girl would have a fat ass.
joe rogan
If you could afford it.
If they could figure out a way to break...
Like I was driving on the street the other day, I saw a sign that said Botox, $12.
brendan schaub
God, Doug, that's a deal.
joe rogan
For sure don't go there.
They will give you Bell's palsy.
brendan schaub
So you had a stroke?
joe rogan
That's apparently a very tricky process.
You've got to know when you're shooting that stuff.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
I saw a deal for LASIK eye surgery.
Buy one, get one.
In Venice, buy one, get one.
joe rogan
No, you cannot do that.
You cannot skimp on your eyeballs.
brendan schaub
Please go to reputablelaserysurgeon.com Buy one, get one next to the weed clinic.
joe rogan
You don't want a deal on an eye surgery.
brendan schaub
You do not want a deal on eye surgery, ass surgery, or tattoos.
joe rogan
Did you hear about that one person that got arrested?
They were giving people ass jobs, and they were pretending to be a doctor, and they weren't a doctor, and they were shooting all kinds of stuff into people's asses.
unidentified
They were shooting cement.
brendan schaub
Cement into the ass of these people.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
God damn.
What's wrong with people?
joe rogan
People are crazy.
brendan schaub
They're crazy.
joe rogan
It's Kim Kardashian.
I blame Kim Kardashian.
unidentified
She's a big reason.
joe rogan
For that lady having a cement ass.
brendan schaub
Because that lady's working at Walgreens like, fuck, I want to look like Kim Kardashian.
joe rogan
You grab her ass and you literally feel a rock of cement and they're like, what?
Do you have a tumor?
Is this cancer?
Is this a fucking kidney stone that didn't pass?
It got lodged up in your ass cheek?
brendan schaub
It's nuts, man.
joe rogan
It made a ways through your hip and just lodged itself.
brendan schaub
But here's the thing.
With titties, I'm all about them.
I'm all about implants.
joe rogan
We go back to the thing.
You cannot earn big breasts.
You can't earn them.
brendan schaub
So what about guys with calf implants?
Do you celebrate that?
joe rogan
No.
John Jones doesn't need them.
John Jones needs him and he doesn't need him.
How about that?
John Jones has the calf of an ankle.
And he doesn't care.
brendan schaub
Not like a Samoan ankle.
He has the calf of a white girl ankle.
joe rogan
By the way, there's a glorious picture of Mark Hunt with a fanny pack that I put on Instagram today.
brendan schaub
And a Hulk Hogan stash.
joe rogan
Yeah, how about that fanny pack?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that fanny pack's pretty gangster.
joe rogan
So, please, buy, support.
Mark Hunt's new book is out now.
Yeah, look at that.
It's a fucking camo fanny pack.
Extra points!
brendan schaub
He's so gangster.
joe rogan
He's the most gangster guy ever.
I do love that stash.
You know, I saw an article, though, an interview they did with him that was very sad and disappointing.
About his upbringing?
No, no, no.
That was terrible, too.
brendan schaub
That's a rough story.
joe rogan
He overcame that.
It wasn't about that.
It was about his brain damage.
brendan schaub
Oh, really?
What was he saying?
joe rogan
Saying he's already starting to slur his words and forget things.
brendan schaub
That mustache and fanny pack shows me that.
I look for signs.
When I saw the mustache and that fanny pack, it was glorious.
joe rogan
You can't be afraid of the fanny pack.
brendan schaub
I wear a fanny pack every day when I run.
joe rogan
Do you?
brendan schaub
I don't wear it to the goddamn supermarket like a psycho.
joe rogan
I do.
unidentified
I do.
brendan schaub
They make sense, though, when you think about them.
joe rogan
They're awesome.
brendan schaub
I just don't.
I just don't.
joe rogan
You should.
brendan schaub
Do you want one?
I'd be down.
joe rogan
Okay, I'll give you one more.
brendan schaub
All right, thanks, bro.
He was saying that he has brain trauma?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
No shit, sir.
joe rogan
Yeah, no shit for sure, we know, but he was talking about it, that he's slurring his words and he's having trouble remembering things.
But he also said he was born to do this.
This is what he's supposed to do, and if he dies doing this, he'd be fine with that.
brendan schaub
But there's a caveat to that.
He said, if I die in the ring, like I want to die in the ring, go out on my shield, but it better not be from someone who's on PEDs.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that's a really good point.
Four people out of the last five people he fought have either tested positive for PEDs or tested...
No, I think it was all PEDs because it was Brock.
brendan schaub
All of them.
joe rogan
It was Alistair's test positive in the past for PEDs, Verdum, and Bigfoot.
brendan schaub
And JDS right now is on...
joe rogan
It's a diuretic.
brendan schaub
But I'm just saying, as far as failing tests, if you would just go by failed tests, if you look at Mark Hunt's career, and you went through, and guys that have tests positive, you're like, oh my, no wonder he's infuriated at people.
And he has brain trauma.
joe rogan
He's also superior genetics.
Like, Mark Hunt's genetics are insane.
Like, his ability to take a punch for years was ungodly.
You would see him get hit, and you'd be like, this doesn't even make sense.
He took crow-cop head kicks, bro.
What are you looking at?
What are you showing me?
brendan schaub
Ah, let's just go through them.
joe rogan
Cro-Cop, Overeem, Silva.
Silva is tested positive.
Did Verdum test positive for something?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Verdum, when did he test positive?
brendan schaub
A while ago.
joe rogan
Okay, so not Stipe.
Stipe is 100% legit.
brendan schaub
Stipe is as clean as they come.
joe rogan
There's Bigfoot Silva again.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
joe rogan
He had a draw with him the first time.
He crushed him the second time.
Because the second time, USADA was involved and Bigfoot Silva wasn't on the juice.
The first time Bigfoot Silva was on the juice, he tested positive.
Not only that, he tested negative before the fight and positive after the fight.
Which means he juiced himself up before the fight.
And they had that incredible, epic five-round war.
You remember that fight?
I remember the fight.
It was so epic that Dana White had a bunch of Mark Hunt, Bigfoot, two.
They made, like, for two.
Before two ever happened, they printed up the jackets for two, and he sent me one.
And I was like, dude, I'm all in.
That was one of the craziest fights of all time.
And then, a week later, Bigfoot tests positive.
And he's like, this dumb motherfucker, like, this could have been, like, this incredible...
Yeah, I mean, it was just...
brendan schaub
Anthony Joshua Klitschko style.
joe rogan
Incredible, incredible matchup, right?
So he tests positive, and then USADA's on his ass.
Then they come back for the second fight, and Mark Hunt just smokes him in the first round.
I mean, just rammed through him.
brendan schaub
But you just look at him, so you got Bigfoot, JDS is, you know, he's having his issues.
Then you got Ben Rothwell busted.
joe rogan
What I was going to say, though, is if anybody legitimately has a reason for using steroids, it's Bigfoot.
Because Bigfoot has real gigantism, and he had a tumor removed from his pituitary gland.
Like, his body doesn't produce testosterone right, or any hormones right.
His body's a wreck.
brendan schaub
This is a gray area.
joe rogan
No, it's not gray.
brendan schaub
He had a tumor.
joe rogan
He had to get brain surgery.
He had a tumor on his pituitary gland.
brendan schaub
I'm aware of that.
Look at him.
So even if you give him TRT, you'd have to regulate so much where he doesn't have such an advantage.
joe rogan
I'm not saying you should.
brendan schaub
Because him without it is awful.
joe rogan
You can't even compete.
I'm saying more than that, maybe you shouldn't be able to compete.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
Maybe this isn't the business for you if you have to have testosterone to compete.
joe rogan
Unless you want to go to Russia or Japan.
brendan schaub
Which is what he's doing.
And he's getting murked out there.
joe rogan
Oh, well, he's probably done.
I mean, he's had so many crazy, crazy fights.
But he was the first guy to TKO Fedor.
Yeah, he was the first.
Remember that shit when he mounted him?
brendan schaub
Remember when Fedor went for that ankle lock and his just giant fucking finger going like this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And then just did work on him.
joe rogan
Yeah, Fedor was done.
Because Fedor, in all seriousness, should have been a 205 pounder.
He's just a tank who's just unbelievably talented and ridiculously skillful in his execution and just figured out a way to win.
Was lightning fast and fucked a lot of people up.
But goddammit, could you imagine if he got himself in ferocious shape at 205?
brendan schaub
Nuts, man.
I can't imagine.
joe rogan
Dude, he was only like 240, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, 230, right?
joe rogan
230, and a good solid 20 pounds of fat.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he's really like 218, which ain't shit to cut to 205. Nothing.
brendan schaub
What?
Anthony Johnson goes, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, if he changed his diet, who knows?
He might literally be like 207. You know, if he lost all that weight.
brendan schaub
Explosive.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got a real belly and a side gut.
brendan schaub
Straight up Russian dad gut.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that might be 25 pounds.
You know, I mean, he literally might be like 210. Back to Mark Hunt, and this is bombing me.
brendan schaub
I gotta get this out.
So he says, hey, I see signs of brain trauma, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, I'm slurring my words speech.
Then isn't he a main event next month?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, at what point does, when you hear that, does the UFC and the commission go, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's stop, let's stop, let's stop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You're slurring your words again.
joe rogan
Who's he fighting?
brendan schaub
That Russian cat was ranked like 11. Right.
Not a big fight for fucking Mark Hunt.
I'd love to see Mark Hunt versus Francis.
joe rogan
Which Russian guy?
Is it Tibura?
brendan schaub
I forget.
There's so many goddamn Russians now.
He's right named from Russia.
Russians are taking over the world.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That Russian guy that stopped Stefan Struve.
That's pretty goddamn impressive.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
And he had the Moana tattoo of Stingray on his back.
unidentified
That's right.
brendan schaub
The identical Moana tattoo that the grandma has.
joe rogan
Big fan.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I guess.
joe rogan
You're welcome.
brendan schaub
You're welcome.
joe rogan
Another rock movie.
Yeah, that guy's a badass.
He's got a sweet left high kick.
Doesn't do much for Hunt.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
If you're Mark Hunt, you're like, alright, I'll do it.
At least I'm the main event in Australia.
But...
At what point do we have someone where we have a guy like the Golden Snitch in the UFC who's watching out for that stuff.
He's going, man, I saw Mark Hunt do an interview.
He has some real issues, man.
Someone to look out to take care of these guys.
Mark Hunt wants to go out on his shield.
I don't want to watch Mark Hunt in 10 years shitting his pants and drooling and doesn't remember his fight career.
I don't give a fuck if he beats that Russian guy in Australia.
He has nothing to prove.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
What's it do for him?
joe rogan
Well, at a certain point, you have to have some sort of a regulation that stops people from hurting themselves when they've taken too much damage and they can't make good decisions anymore, right?
But then it becomes a personal freedom issue.
brendan schaub
Free will.
joe rogan
Right?
Because there's a certain amount of damage you're going to take.
There's fights that probably shouldn't get made, like Francis Ngannou versus almost anybody.
Almost anybody's just agreeing to getting your fucking head scrambled.
I mean, I want to see what happens with Alistair.
I want to see if Alistair can survive.
brendan schaub
It's a scary fight for Alistair.
joe rogan
Yeah, because Ngannou clips him once and Alistair could be in deep, deep trouble.
brendan schaub
But also, Francis has never fought a striker, a high-level striker, let alone the best of all time in the heavyweight division.
But you don't have the same chin, so it's an interesting matchup.
joe rogan
He's fast, too, man.
He's scary fast.
unidentified
Alistair?
brendan schaub
Or Francis?
joe rogan
Francis.
Well, Alistair's clearly fast, too.
But Francis, all he has to do is touch that chin once.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Francis puts people to sleep.
brendan schaub
I gotta see him do it at a high level.
joe rogan
I do too.
brendan schaub
Like a really high level before I jump on the train.
I think he has the capabilities, but...
joe rogan
Right.
When you watched it with Arlovsky, Arlovsky's already down the slope.
You know, he's already sliding way down.
He's been knocked out who knows how many times, right?
brendan schaub
He's been down the slope, yeah.
joe rogan
He's been down the slope.
So that was impressive.
It was a good test.
Because Arlovsky still knocked out Travis Brown just a couple years ago.
He still can fuck you up.
brendan schaub
In that barn burner, yeah.
joe rogan
Still can fuck you up.
You know, if you fuck up...
brendan schaub
True.
I'm just saying that...
joe rogan
He fucked up Bigfoot, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
That's true.
That was a while ago, though, Joe.
unidentified
It was.
brendan schaub
He went on that tear, and now it's over, but...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Well, Stipe kind of ended that.
Yeah, Stipe ended that.
But a guy like...
I think JDS would be a good test for him.
Alistair Overeem would be pretty good.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, for sure.
Look, it's a great test.
brendan schaub
Then I'm on board.
Because right now, to be honest, we need him.
We need a young killer, like a guy to bring some life into the heavyweight division.
joe rogan
He just has everything going as far as his ability to knock guys dead, his look.
I mean, he's just jacked.
He's so thick.
brendan schaub
The markability's going to be tough until his English gets better.
joe rogan
Oh, uh-uh.
I don't think so.
brendan schaub
Really?
Chet Congo's coming out of the corner.
What'd you say, Joe?
joe rogan
He starts murking people at heavyweight, and you get a highlight reel, the heavyweight champion of the world.
brendan schaub
Stipe's murking people.
He's from Cleveland, and he's not a draw.
He's murking everybody.
joe rogan
I don't understand it.
Is it a marketing thing?
brendan schaub
100%?
joe rogan
So they haven't done it right?
brendan schaub
No, no.
joe rogan
I'm not blaming the UFC. The public has to jump on.
brendan schaub
The public.
It's not the UFC. I mean, Stipe's doing his thing.
UFC's doing their thing with them.
But sometimes the stars don't align where you become this crossover pop culture icon, fighter.
joe rogan
Fickle-ass public.
brendan schaub
They're like, ah, white guy, standard.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
He's a firefighter, though.
Standard.
But he's knocked out everyone.
Standard.
unidentified
Oh, fuck you.
joe rogan
How is that standard?
brendan schaub
It's just people want...
But he's real humble and well-spoken and he's not cocky.
So they don't...
We're drawn to negativity.
We're drawn to the Jon Jones and the Conor McGregor.
They want that kind of hot take on them.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Conor wasn't really negative.
brendan schaub
He's not negative, but he talks a lot of shit.
He's going to give you a hot take.
Steve Bay's not giving you a hot take.
He's working his ass off, training hard to win the fight.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy that...
Well, with Conor, the thing that's so sensational about him is he has both of those things.
He has fighting ability, and he also has this crazy personality that's magnetic.
unidentified
Yeah, you're a unicorn.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're a unicorn.
joe rogan
Where Stipe just has the fighting ability and just, I don't know, I just love his work ethic.
I love the fact that he still has a fireman gig.
unidentified
Me too.
brendan schaub
I love it, man.
joe rogan
Knocking people dead.
brendan schaub
Just your heavyweight champion of the world is not a draw, which is insane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I know.
brendan schaub
And even if Francis knocks out Alistair, knocks out Stipe, there's no way he's a draw.
Yeah.
There's just these, and I don't have the formula, trust me, the UFC would hit me up if I did.
There's this weird superstar soup, and you have a few ingredients, and you're missing.
We don't know what the others are, but guys hit it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you hit it almost by chance.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they just come around once every now and then.
joe rogan
Conor wasn't like that early in his career.
He was just good.
brendan schaub
Not at all.
joe rogan
He was just a great fighter.
He was just looking promising, and then all of a sudden he gets to the UFC, he feels the crowd, all the Irish people behind him, and he starts just talking shit and going off, and then people love it, and then he talks more shit, goes off more, then he starts predicting what round he's going to merc people in, and then he starts pulling it off, and then he's like, who the fuck is that guy?
And everybody goes crazy.
It's hilarious.
brendan schaub
And then think about John.
John didn't get really mainstream-y ESPN coverage Good Morning America until he went bad.
Then people are like, oh, I want to see that badass fight.
And he's been amazing for how long?
joe rogan
He had a press conference that he said what I've always said.
He said at the end of the day, he goes, about him, I've always said about him, he goes, at the end of the day, I'm a bad motherfucker.
I'm a wild motherfucker.
brendan schaub
That's what I want.
joe rogan
And that's what I do.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
At the end of the day, that's what he said.
At the end of the day, I'm a wild motherfucker.
I'm like, that's what I've been saying!
unidentified
That's it, brother?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Run with that.
joe rogan
I told him that too when I talked to him about it.
He wanted to have a conversation before he did the podcast and he wanted to come clean.
I go, dude, you're going to make mistakes.
You're a wild motherfucker.
It's okay.
You don't get to be as good as you are without being a wild motherfucker.
brendan schaub
You don't have to apologize for it there, John.
If he came out and went, listen, hell yeah, I'm going to make some mistakes and I'm probably going to make a lot more.
I'm a wild motherfucker.
I'm the baddest dude on the planet.
This is what you get.
Love it or hate it.
joe rogan
Drop the mic.
You just can't do things that hurt people, like the driving fucked up and smashing into that lady's car.
Take away the things that hurt people, and you're just out partying and having a good time, and you occasionally do blow.
Be that guy.
I don't give a fuck.
That's a great guy.
That's a fun guy.
You've got to make sure you avoid hurting other people.
This.
This steroid thing is the goddamn, that's the knife in the heart.
brendan schaub
Like I said, you gotta look into the strata ball stuff with the baseball and all these guys who have all these problems.
And at GNC it's in all these supplements.
I saw that.
And again, I've been roasting John bad.
Because I'm upset.
I'm mad at him because he's my favorite fighter.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
One of them.
joe rogan
So it is possible that he could have taken something as trace elements of this.
I've also seen that other things are recognized as that stuff in the test, but I have a hard time believing that USADA wouldn't know that.
brendan schaub
I know, me too.
joe rogan
So I have a hard time, once they come clean with this, they come out with this, I don't think it's ever been proven once that they said that a person had tested positive for something and that that person had never actually taken that thing.
I've not seen that once.
unidentified
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
You saw it as so thorough.
Listen, man.
If you have the golden snitch on your trail, you're fucked.
He's like Sherlock Holmes of PEDs.
You are so fucked.
joe rogan
And again, just fucking dead calm about it.
Not judgmental.
Just the facts.
Going over the details of it.
brendan schaub
This is what bothers me a little bit.
I'm going back and forth on John.
If my...
Career was in jeopardy.
I would be out there being like, listen, this is what fucking happened, man.
Hear me out.
I'm not going radio silent, sending these weird cryptic tweets doing this.
Even if my manager's like, dude, let's wait.
I'm doing a press conference like, listen to me right now, man.
Maybe I took this supplement.
I've never done steroids in my fucking life.
That is bullshit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can't say too much if it's going to go to some sort of an arbitration or a trial or I don't know what the process is.
brendan schaub
You can if you didn't take it.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
He's got to find out if there is a way that something happened.
brendan schaub
A loophole?
joe rogan
Maybe it's you, okay?
Say you take something.
From GMC, and maybe you take a bunch of shit, and you thought everything was good, and then you get tested positive.
Before you say anything, I never took steroids, like, you have to find out what the fuck it is was in those things.
So you have to report those things, and then they have to check, and then they have to independently buy those things from a shelf from somewhere else to do confirmation.
Yeah.
And that's a process.
And it's one of the things that Jeff Nowitzki has said, you gotta let the process play out before you start accusing John.
So, there'll be a process.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, man...
joe rogan
It's not good.
A sample and B sample, it's not good.
brendan schaub
It's not good.
I just think it could go a long ways with his fans and everything going on if he came out and was just like, let me tell you guys, you're going to hear this.
Because the public right now, we see Test A, Test B, both positive.
Oh, fuck, steroids.
He's dead to me.
joe rogan
But if he came out...
You need to look at the tweet where he said that he never took steroids.
brendan schaub
On his kids.
joe rogan
And then his Heavenly Father.
Remember he capitalized Heavenly and Father.
brendan schaub
So we're skeptical.
joe rogan
So fuck off.
Fuck off, bro.
That actually made me go, hmm, he was on steroids, huh?
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
I was like, God damn it.
Alright, you're clear on steroids.
joe rogan
Yeah, when he went heavily farther, I was like, oh.
brendan schaub
Alright, you're a bad guy.
He's a bad guy.
How about John does this and we're all like, oh, fucking the worst, greatest of all time, my ass, than Brian Cushion.
I don't even know how to do football.
Brian Cushion, captain of the Houston Texans.
He's been caught, I think, two or three times before.
Straight up test positive for PED, like straight up steroids.
And he's a monster, linebacker.
If he gets tested again, I think you're banned.
He's gonna miss like 10 games.
They docked $4 million of his paycheck.
The media doesn't make nothing about it.
This guy's a superstar.
joe rogan
Of course they're on steroids.
Everybody who's 360 pounds of solid muscle is on steroids.
brendan schaub
But how crazy did we just give them a write-off?
joe rogan
They shouldn't be testing those guys.
It's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
But he's playing a position, too, where he hits guys.
He's taking years off their life.
He's giving them brain trauma.
And he's rocking them jacked to the gills.
joe rogan
That's what people want to see.
If you want to see football, you want to see big giant guys colliding with each other.
You don't want to see natural athletes who are out there trying to fucking pound whey protein in the middle of the night.
brendan schaub
Where do you want to see natural athletes?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Not in the UFC? That's a good question.
brendan schaub
Hate to tell ya.
joe rogan
I hear ya.
brendan schaub
Most of those guys aren't.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I hear ya.
But there's weight classes in the UFC, and that's where it gets different.
Because you're talking about guys trying to get as big and as fast, as powerful as they can.
And we've all known forever, you ask the average person, do football players take PEDs?
They'd be like, of course they do.
Of course they do.
You're looking at these mountains.
brendan schaub
Well, most people assume UFC fighters on PDs.
Like, I've had some talks.
joe rogan
And what did we say?
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, there's a giant percentage.
brendan schaub
But there's a different standard.
joe rogan
Way less are now, but I think for the longest time.
42 supplements, including some that are available at GNC, can trigger a positive test for Toronto Ball.
brendan schaub
Yeah, this is that Fox Sports article.
joe rogan
Baseball officials said the Cubs again were reminded this week that players should use only supplements certified by NSF International, an independent organization, to test and approve products.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So there's a lot of shit.
brendan schaub
Look, the union, however, is concerned about the run of suspension of Terranobol and continues to seek evidence that might shed light on why some players are testing positive because so many guys are testing positive for it.
joe rogan
Well, isn't this a short-acting drug, though, that's out of your system fairly quickly?
I think that was the thing about this stuff.
brendan schaub
Or is that not true?
There's even debate on that, though, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, why did I see something that said it had a 60-day window?
brendan schaub
I've seen months, I've seen weeks, I've seen days, I've seen hours.
Again, we don't fucking know, do we?
joe rogan
For when it's been explained to me, the stuff that gets out of your system the quickest is those little edible testosterone things.
brendan schaub
Like the gummies and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, but those are just a few hours.
And a few hours are out of your system.
brendan schaub
The other thing, just like we're doing now with baseball, like Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, at the time we're like, oh my god, PEDs, home runs, that doesn't count.
Years go by, we're like, those guys are still pretty fucking good.
Even the pitchers were sauced up.
I think that could happen with John, too.
Like, five, ten years now, he's the greatest of all time still.
joe rogan
Yeah, but no, because Daniel Cormier wasn't sauced up.
Daniel Cormier was totally on the natch.
brendan schaub
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
You don't believe that?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I assume he is.
No, I assume he is.
I have no idea.
I have no reason not to believe.
unidentified
I don't know anything in this world anymore when it comes to PDs.
joe rogan
Well, you know, you gotta think, man.
Your health's on the line.
Your future's on the line.
Your career's on the line.
You've been out of the game for...
Essentially, two and a half years plus.
One fight in between there.
The OSP fight.
But he's been out of cage for a long time.
brendan schaub
You gotta fight the best in the world, DC. You gotta fight the best in the world.
Yeah, that's me, dog.
joe rogan
You got all this pressure on you.
And you just go, just a little bit.
Just get a little bit.
A little bit of help.
brendan schaub
I don't know if you need that help if you're John.
joe rogan
Might not.
Might not need it.
brendan schaub
Maybe go to the club, do a couple lines of coke.
joe rogan
That's his help.
Maybe it's one of those things where he's always used it.
Got away with it.
Now he didn't.
Maybe he took a supplement that had it in it.
I mean, we really don't know.
It's one of the things that Nowitzki stressed that I really believe.
You've got to kind of, before casting 100% judgment on him, you've got to let it play out.
brendan schaub
But this is the thing, when you say let it play out, again, I know I'm playing both sides of the field here, but when you say let it play out, we know he has a history of fucking up.
So you're going to hang him before it's actually come out, because we go, no, he's consistently good at beating people up and fucking up.
And here's another fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's why everyone's like, nope, he's done to me.
joe rogan
Well, it's depressing to us, right, as fans, because he's so fucking good.
And to know that he's going to be out possibly for four years now, that shit's just devastating to me.
brendan schaub
We need him.
I know people go, no, we fucking need him.
He was going to fight Stipe for the heavyweight title, you fucks!
joe rogan
Stipe didn't even know about that.
brendan schaub
Well, now you know.
unidentified
Ah!
brendan schaub
And that would have been a tough fight for Stipe.
And then he was going to fight Brock Lesnar.
Gustvin, Ozdemir, DC. There's so much out there.
joe rogan
Dude, John Jones versus Stipe for the heavyweight title would be...
brendan schaub
Might as well talk about fucking dragons and Jon Snow.
It's because neither one of them is happening.
joe rogan
It's interesting, right?
It's like what your theory about the Fertittas pumping it up with Reebok and with USADA and then just to sell.
brendan schaub
That's science, son.
What do you mean theory?
joe rogan
But it's a very good theory that I haven't heard before.
brendan schaub
Oh, word.
joe rogan
I've never heard it.
Is your theory entirely your idea?
brendan schaub
I mean, it's evidence.
It's just...
joe rogan
Right, but...
The evidence was always there.
Yeah, always.
brendan schaub
You just put two and two together, what they're doing.
joe rogan
That's genius.
I mean, if they really played at that 3D chess, that's fucking genius.
brendan schaub
100% that's what they're doing.
joe rogan
But it really is not...
brendan schaub
They're so smart, man.
joe rogan
If you just bought it, and you were WME, you'd probably be like...
brendan schaub
Infertita is there.
joe rogan
This...
It's the USADA thing.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
What are we doing with this?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You're going, hold on.
How long is it going?
I don't know what the deal is with USADA, because USADA is an employee of the UFC. Let's find out.
We realize that, right?
joe rogan
Let's find out how long the deal is with the UFC and USADA. Let's take a guess.
10 years?
I think it's 10 years?
brendan schaub
You can't do 10 years?
joe rogan
How dare you?
brendan schaub
Golden Snitch can be buying 14 houses if it's 10 years.
joe rogan
But what happens if they abandon it and all of a sudden everybody just comes, like Eric Silva comes back, jacked.
brendan schaub
Ratings go...
joe rogan
Everybody, Alistair, jacked.
Alistair goes back to being Uber-eam.
All he has to do is pass the one at the weigh-ins.
That's it.
brendan schaub
We're going Sizzler.
They better pray to God the Golden Snitch contract runs out in the next two years.
joe rogan
You bring in that Russian cat from Icarus?
brendan schaub
You bring in it.
joe rogan
Icarus, whatever it is.
brendan schaub
You bring in everybody and anybody.
joe rogan
All the Russians.
They're the best at it.
brendan schaub
All of them.
joe rogan
Bring them in.
This guy had this dude on a protocol.
I fell asleep while I was watching.
I only watched the first 15 minutes.
Then I went to bed.
I'm going to watch the rest of it tonight.
brendan schaub
I've heard about it.
joe rogan
But he was...
Banging like five different things in his ass.
These like amber liquids.
It looked like Jack Daniels.
brendan schaub
Was the guy Jack?
joe rogan
No, he's a cyclist.
He was a very thin, slim guy.
But he just started doing this.
He just started doing this while he was listening to this guy.
And I guess the idea is that they're going to test him and they're going to give him PEDs forever and he's going to test clean.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's sick!
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I need to see the whole thing.
Like I said, like 15-20 minutes into it, I had to shut it off.
brendan schaub
Yeah, if you're a WME, you're looking at that going, when's that contract up?
When's the Reebok deal?
You're literally going, you're going to tear it down and go, let us do it like you guys got it to this point.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Like, this isn't working for us now.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are two ideas that look good.
brendan schaub
To sell to another company and make it legit.
joe rogan
But the thing is, like, if you can get a better deal, like, right, you have a deal with Reebok, goes for so long, and then if it's profitable for Reebok, then Adidas comes in and goes, hey, we like what you're doing here.
Let's switch it up.
Let's go Adidas.
And then you have a bidding war between Adidas and Reebok, and then maybe Nike thinks about it, too.
And, you know, if you can prove that you're cleaning the sport up, right, with USADA, that's a very smart move to get a big company to invest in the sport.
brendan schaub
That's why you do it.
joe rogan
But the big company has to see some sort of a payback.
That's why people were pissed off because they were like, well, the sponsorship doesn't match what we were getting before.
And, you know, I know you had a real issue with that.
It was a big, like, $100,000 plus a fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that was the biggest issue.
I like the uniform system and make it look like a professional sport.
But if you're going to bring in a major sponsor like that and then cut down guys' pays, then you're fucking the product.
You're fucking the fighters.
Yeah, and what you don't realize is you're actually fucking Reebok.
Yes as the UFC as the middleman You're screwing Reebok because no one had any issues with Reebok.
They're owning the CrossFit world They're doing things actually like I have no issues do like I talked to represent from Reebok the other day He want to send me a fight kit so for who?
I I forget who.
He said they have some new boxing shoes and some shorts you want to send me.
I'm like, alright, cool, man.
joe rogan
I would like Ioana's fight kit so I could spell her name.
brendan schaub
I want mine.
joe rogan
How much, if I gave you 10 million dollars, do you think you could spell Ioana Jacek's last name?
brendan schaub
Nope.
Not even close.
joe rogan
I bet she can't even spell it.
Get her together.
She's like, who it is this?
brendan schaub
What is this?
This is Z or S. You found something, Jamie?
jamie vernon
No, I don't see anything.
I just see that it's just a program they started together.
brendan schaub
So they can cancel at any time, maybe?
jamie vernon
I would imagine they probably could.
They committed money.
joe rogan
No, they have a contract.
It doesn't say that they have a long...
Is this USADA or Reebok?
jamie vernon
The only thing I found is that the UFC has committed millions of dollars to in and out of competition testing.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
If they're being smart, though, for the UFC, to bring in a big sponsor like Reebok, that's a good way to ensure that you've got a clean sport that you represent.
You want to represent a clean sport.
That's why that fighter the other night when Gavin Tucker fought...
God damn it.
brendan schaub
I'm sure of Tucker because he's, you know, he's the guy who took the beat down, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
With that ref.
joe rogan
Right, that ref that stopped the fight.
brendan schaub
Mitch?
Is this the M? No.
He looked great though.
jamie vernon
Rick Glenn.
joe rogan
Rick the Gladiator Glenn.
brendan schaub
Yes, yes.
Rick Glenn.
Two first names.
joe rogan
Fantastic mustache.
brendan schaub
Rick Glenn.
Two first names.
joe rogan
Rick Glenn beat the shit out of him.
brendan schaub
Beat the brakes out of him.
joe rogan
Like way too much.
It was like the fight should have been stopped like minutes before.
brendan schaub
Horrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was not good.
Like when you see that, like if I was Reebok, I'd be like, hey, this guy can't do, we can't sponsor a fight with this guy as a ref ever again.
brendan schaub
Reebok doesn't know the sport that well to do that.
joe rogan
Whatever.
They know it now.
brendan schaub
You know what I'd do if I was at the UFC, if I'm WME? I get rid of the snitch.
I don't say anything.
But I don't say anything.
I let people assume.
I let everyone assume.
I'm sure there's a non-disclosure on that.
joe rogan
You don't think the golden snitch is going to go on the Ariel Helwani show the moment he gets canned?
brendan schaub
Maybe you pay him a fat sum and just be like, okay, just go away.
But let's not say anything we're not doing on the street.
joe rogan
They told me it was Brock Lesnar's urine.
It looked like Gatorade.
It looked like fucking gravy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't...
That's what I would do.
I would just take him out of the equation, not say anything to the public, and then all of a sudden you have all the monsters back.
joe rogan
That's so stupid.
People are going to know.
brendan schaub
How are they going to know?
We all assume.
joe rogan
They're gonna know.
They're gonna find out.
People are fans.
brendan schaub
The general public won't find out.
joe rogan
Everybody's gonna find out.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
That's so stupid.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
joe rogan
You think it wouldn't get out if USADA left?
If the UFC was like, what about the testing?
brendan schaub
No, no.
We're still doing the testing.
jamie vernon
What testing did they do before?
There were still tests, right?
joe rogan
Nevada State Athletic Commission tests, which would test after the weigh-in.
brendan schaub
After the fight, depending on the main event.
jamie vernon
You saw it as just the surprise testing whenever.
brendan schaub
You saw it as 365 days a year.
joe rogan
And they also are way more thorough.
Their tests are very, very thorough.
They do blood.
brendan schaub
The other one only does urine.
joe rogan
Victor Conte, the guy who got busted in the Balco scandal when he was on the podcast, what he said to me, he was like, if you fail one of those post-weigh-in tests, that's an intelligence test.
You're just a dummy.
He's like, anybody who knows what they're doing can pass those tests.
If you have a guy like him, you're dealing with these high-level guys, that's an easy test.
brendan schaub
USADA though, there's no...
joe rogan
USADA's not...
They're keeping your piss and your blood for like seven years.
brendan schaub
They're freezing that shit.
joe rogan
They're keeping it for seven years, man.
brendan schaub
It's too much.
joe rogan
They're gonna test it in seven years and strip people to the title.
You know, the Olympics has already done that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
They busted Russians retroactively.
They busted two gold medalists.
I want to say, like, 2008?
Two gold medalists from 2008. They're like, yeah.
brendan schaub
You imagine getting that call?
Who the fuck was that?
The Olympic Committee from fucking 2008 just stripped our gold medals.
joe rogan
Well, you know, they came real close to banning Russia from competing in Rio.
brendan schaub
Didn't they ban some of their athletes?
Or was that China?
Did they ban, like, China's gymnastics team?
jamie vernon
Do you have to give that back?
The medal?
Is someone going to come fucking take it from you?
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Go to Siberia.
jamie vernon
Who's going to take it?
joe rogan
That dude's out there.
brendan schaub
Just hiding your ass.
joe rogan
Killing Pike with a knife.
brendan schaub
They took like Reggie Bush.
Remember that?
They took his Heisman.
You can't find it anymore.
And they took their trophies.
joe rogan
They took his Heisman for what?
For what reason?
brendan schaub
Because that year, he received benefits, like he took money from boosters.
joe rogan
Oh, good lord.
brendan schaub
And they're like, can I see that trophy, bitch?
joe rogan
They gave him money?
unidentified
They took his Heisman?
brendan schaub
They gave his parents a house or something like that.
So they investigated and took all the shit.
And they voided all USC's wins that year.
joe rogan
All USC's wins?
Holy shit, because he violated the agreement?
brendan schaub
Him and the coach, and they had a bunch of fuck-ups with NCAA. That is so bizarre.
I know.
You just have to act like it never happened.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
How is that possible?
How can you...
All the wins?
brendan schaub
Everything.
None of it counts.
unidentified
It's out of the record books.
jamie vernon
I know, but the money was transpired.
People watched it on TV. You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
The university made their money.
joe rogan
Well, it's like Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier.
You could call that a no contest all you want.
We saw Jon Jones beat Daniel to sleep.
We saw it.
We saw the high kick.
brendan schaub
UFC made their money.
UFC made their money off that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they're not thinking that way.
What they're thinking is it's a violation of the rules in terms of someone competing on a performance-enhancing drug.
They set up the rules.
The guy violated it, so they stripped his title as they're supposed to, and they reinstated it to DC. I'll do one better.
brendan schaub
How about UFC 200 with Brock Lesnar?
Think about that.
And then, because you get all the bias for Brock Lesnar, then you realize he tests hot afterwards.
He's like, fuck, I'm WWE. Of course I was.
You're just like, ah, goddamn, bro.
He rides off in the sunset.
joe rogan
Well, a little.
You know, Brock Lesnar independently tested himself a shit ton of times leading up to that.
Well, listen.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Don't get crazy.
brendan schaub
Don't get crazy.
joe rogan
When you independently test yourself, it's because you want to make sure that you're showing up clean.
It's not because you think you're clean, you want to show the world.
It's because you want to make sure, like, hey, is this showing up?
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
What's going on?
We okay here?
Let's test out.
brendan schaub
Like, is this really working, this chemistry?
joe rogan
There were multiple independent tests that he did, which you wouldn't have to do if you weren't taking anything.
He's trying to get whatever it is out of his system, trying to get his body up to baseline.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
I mean, when you watched him in the WWE and he's 300 plus pounds, fucking jacked!
brendan schaub
He looks the same.
joe rogan
He's a giant guy, you know, and he's 39 or something like that.
brendan schaub
That was a dirty one.
That was the most dirtiest one of all time.
joe rogan
Well, that's another Mark Hunt beating.
brendan schaub
I know.
And now he slurged speech.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Alistair Overeem.
Ooh, that was the worst one.
That knee he took to the face.
brendan schaub
Oh, I flatlined him.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
Straight up flatlined.
joe rogan
Right in front of us, man.
He was doing a toe curl.
You know when they get KO'd and they get that toe curl going on?
brendan schaub
They sure do.
They do like the shocker with their feet.
joe rogan
That toe curl is hard to watch because you know that that's the whole body going...
brendan schaub
It's weird people enjoy seeing that.
joe rogan
They don't enjoy seeing that.
They enjoy seeing the kick landing because it's so difficult and you know the consequences are so grave.
unidentified
It's like...
brendan schaub
Like the way we're made up, you almost want to flinch when you see that someone's brain shuts off like that.
You should be genetically, you go, oh my god, you know?
joe rogan
You know, I just don't think the people that suffer the most start, they don't come out about it.
They just kind of go away.
brendan schaub
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Right?
Like guys like Don Frye.
You don't see Don Frye all the time being interviewed on TV. You don't think about his fight with Takayama when they both stood in front of each other and blasted each other in the face over and over and over again.
brendan schaub
That's the older generation.
It's not in their nature to do that.
They're not very good on camera and stuff like that.
I think as you go on, you're going to see guys coming out, though.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I hope.
But just because people don't see them, they fade away.
brendan schaub
Oh, I see what you're saying.
You're not in the spotlight.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not in the spotlight, so people don't think about that.
When you think of fighting, you think of watching Tyron Woodley right now in his prime.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's doing damage.
He's had some good fights, but he's okay.
He's fine.
You think about his knockout loss to Nate Marquardt in Strikeforce.
That's the only real bad loss that he has.
The other losses...
It just doesn't seem like he's in a bad place.
But then you don't see guys that were in the UFC 15, 20 years ago that took crazy...
Like Gary Goodridge.
Big Daddy Goodridge, who went over to K-1.
And he's got crazy CTE now.
brendan schaub
Horrible.
He talks about it, right?
He's trying to.
joe rogan
Yeah, he talks about it really openly, and he's got a great Twitter to follow.
brendan schaub
Have you ever had him on here?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Would you?
joe rogan
For sure, yeah.
brendan schaub
To talk about that?
joe rogan
I mean, I'm sure he'd want to talk about that.
He'd want people to know, you know?
brendan schaub
I just...
Obviously, if you're going to fight, brain trauma is one of the...
joe rogan
It's one of the consequences.
brendan schaub
That's what we do.
joe rogan
Obviously.
brendan schaub
So if he were to come on and be like, hey, I have brain trauma with CT, I don't feel like most people are like, oh, it's terrible, I'm not watching anymore.
joe rogan
Well, you feel bad, like, you know, you see someone slurring their words.
You ever see Joe Frazier before he died?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was on the Opie and Anthony show once, and I remember listening, and I was like, whoa, this is hard to listen to, man.
It's just like...
brendan schaub
There's some guys like that in the UFC. Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
I won't mention names.
There's some guys who I'll have conversations with and I'm like, oh my god, man.
You don't see it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look, nobody rides for free.
You get hit enough.
The weird thing is the number's different for everybody.
The number for one guy, like Mark Hunt, it took years and years and years and years and years and years for his chin to start to fail him.
You think about the K-1 fights he had, all the pride fights he had.
You know, I think he fought in Dream as well.
When did Melvin Manhoff knock him out?
Was that in Dream?
brendan schaub
Uh, no.
joe rogan
That's Pride.
unidentified
No?
joe rogan
It was Pride?
It's just all the K1 bouts, man.
I mean, he was a K1 Grand Prix champion.
brendan schaub
That was actually K1, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, he fought some fucking war.
Was it a K1 MMA fight?
Yeah, it was K1. Yeah.
There's only so many of those fights you could have.
brendan schaub
It is weird how certain guys get their capabilities to take punches so much longer than other guys.
We don't know what it is.
joe rogan
I think it's a structure thing.
The way they're built.
I think the way you're built.
Mark Hunt is built like a tank.
He's 5'10", 265. He's just a tank.
The other problem is width, size of his head, his body, his denseness.
When you see his shins, like when Mark is standing in front, his knees are giant.
His knees are like this big.
brendan schaub
Everything's big.
joe rogan
His shins are huge.
He's like a thick-boned guy.
brendan schaub
Well, the other issue is, is UFC's, especially as, I should say mixed martial arts, hate when everyone calls mixed martial arts UFC, but mixed martial arts is so new in the grand scheme of things compared to other sports.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
We don't know the best way to train to stay healthy, to not get brain trouble.
We have not, people are trying to figure out, there's doctors, it just hasn't been around long enough.
Like in football, and the CFL just passed this, they're not allowed to put pads on in practice anymore.
They cannot hit in practice anymore.
That is a rule.
joe rogan
Smart.
brendan schaub
And now the NFL's going, ah, we're going to look into that.
Now the NFL only has, I think, 14 days of pad work where they're in pads during the season, but they want to eliminate that.
But that sport's been around for a grip.
joe rogan
The best saving grace for the sport would be, or the best hope for the sport would be medical science.
Medical science comes along with some sort of stem cell regeneration thing that allows your brain to come back to 100%, which is totally possible.
They just have to crack the code.
You just think about what they can do with other parts of your body, the way they can repair things.
The brain is far more complicated than anything we have to deal with, but if you could somehow or another reignite the body's ability to heal itself, and in fact, They have a new chip that they're working on now where they install it in a person's body, and it reprograms your genes, and they think it can repair brain trauma, injuries, tissue damage, and even the effects of aging.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it's a chip you put into your body, and it reprograms your genes.
And I think it's probably at some very embryonic stage of development.
brendan schaub
It's going to be like $1 trillion, I know.
joe rogan
Who knows?
But they're probably trying to juice up excitement for it by making it this thing people talk about.
Can you imagine?
I can imagine.
Look, dude, you know the story with my shoulder.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
My shoulder was fucked.
I was ready to get shoulder surgery.
It was hurting all the time.
It doesn't hurt at all.
brendan schaub
Brain's a different animal, though.
joe rogan
It is.
You're right.
brendan schaub
It is.
joe rogan
It's way more complicated.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you listen to the scientists.
They go, you need a new heart.
We can make that.
You need lungs, muscle, bones.
We can make all that.
Can't help your brain right now.
joe rogan
Now, stop and think about where we were 50 years ago.
50 years ago, none of those things were possible.
So all these ideas that are commonplace today were just...
It's science fiction 50 years ago.
50 years from now, they might be able to use this chip.
Have you found that thing?
That chip?
jamie vernon
The one I found isn't even new.
joe rogan
It's from three years ago, but it's made by DARPA. No, that's not what it is.
It's a new chip installed under skin that reprograms DNA and can heal injuries.
Forget about brain injury.
Just look at that.
New chip.
I think it can replicate and restore.
The idea behind it is it can program the genes to replicate and restore any sort of injury.
brendan schaub
Did you read this on the forum or is this some legit shit?
joe rogan
No, I think it was livescience.com.
It's one of those science websites that I go to.
brendan schaub
You know what's a bitch about that is by the time that's out, you and I would probably be dead.
joe rogan
No, that's not true.
It might be out real soon.
Breakthrough device heals organs with a single touch.
Device instantly delivers new DNA or RNA into living skin cells to change their function.
This is it.
They've developed a device that will switch cell function to rescue failing body functions with a single touch.
The technology known as tissue nanotransfection...
Injects genetic code into the skin cells, turning those skin cells into other types of cells required for treating disease conditions.
unidentified
Goddamn!
Boom!
joe rogan
Welcome to the future, motherfucker.
CTE out the window.
Football, no helmets, don't be a pussy.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
We'll stitch you back up.
They have a bunch of dudes with boxes of these chips sitting by, and you're down, your head's mashed in like that fucking guy, the mountain from Game of Thrones, crushed.
And they just stick that shit on your eyeballs, just pop right back into place, like, whoa, that guy's strong.
Then we start, you know what happens then?
Sword fights.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Once they can just grab ahold of you real quick and bring you back to life.
brendan schaub
It's gonna be a bitch if he gets stabbed, even if he can recover.
joe rogan
Sword fights would be like, you're not allowed to cut their head off.
brendan schaub
Can't fix that.
joe rogan
Can't fix that.
brendan schaub
Don't cut their fucking heads off.
joe rogan
It's like elbows to the back of the head when you got the back mount.
unidentified
You can't do those.
joe rogan
They're too effective.
brendan schaub
Don't cut their heads off.
joe rogan
Within one week, active blood vessels appeared in the injured leg, and by the second week, the leg was saved.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Researchers studied mice and pigs in these experiments.
In the study, researchers were able to reprogram skin cells to become vascular cells in badly injured legs that lack blood flow.
So, amazing probably for people with diabetes, amazing for people that are suffering from all sorts of circulatory conditions.
brendan schaub
Bro, it takes less than a second and is non-invasive.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
Welcome to the new world.
It's like that Nas song.
jamie vernon
The chip doesn't even stay in your body.
I think it says they can take it out.
unidentified
Holy fuck!
brendan schaub
We're living in the future, bitch!
What are we talking about?
joe rogan
We're fixing shit!
brendan schaub
Why isn't this bigger news?
Why isn't this on CNN and all that shit?
That's a good question.
jamie vernon
Fake news.
joe rogan
Powerful fake news.
They're too busy talking about Trump.
brendan schaub
Earth's flat.
joe rogan
They're talking about whether or not Trump is a racist and whether or not that girl should get fired.
brendan schaub
Instead of...
That is nuts!
joe rogan
Ooh, excitement!
Ooh, drama!
Ooh, drama!
brendan schaub
How's that not exciting as shit?
joe rogan
It's exciting as shit.
brendan schaub
I'm going to go bash my brains in.
joe rogan
We're in the new world, man, and this is just one step, right?
What is this going to be like 20 years?
We didn't see this coming.
What's it going to be like 20 years from now?
We don't know who's in Austria right now in some fucking laboratory with white gloves on.
brendan schaub
With a huge brain.
joe rogan
Putting their hand into some crazy machine.
There's a Petri dish and they got all these lasers that are zapping this thing.
Who knows what the fuck they're doing right now?
brendan schaub
Well, what's a bummer?
Is this the first I've heard about until you fucking brought it up?
joe rogan
I'm on the ball, son.
I'm on all that stuff.
unidentified
But still!
joe rogan
Powerful Matt Staggs sent me that.
Shout out to Matt Staggs.
brendan schaub
I like that guy.
joe rogan
He's awesome.
He's a great guy.
This whole...
What we're experiencing now is this...
You know, this...
Escalating sort of technological race like one invention like this is going to allow for the idea of several other different inventions And maybe they'll come up with something they add this to CRISPR you know CRISPR this new genetic Reprogramming I don't know the best way to describe it, but it's a tool for altering genetics now they get a hold of that and they use it with this so you use CRISPR and this you got the Hulk and You got Jon Jones and Brock Lesnar baby.
You got the Hulk.
Fuck Jon Jones and Brock Lesnar if the Hulk shows up.
Right?
brendan schaub
Not if they had a baby.
joe rogan
He's fucking crashing through the wall.
He leaps through the fucking arena.
brendan schaub
Just recovering non-stop?
joe rogan
Literally from the dressing room.
Leaps through the air and boom!
Lands in the center of the octagon and goes...
unidentified
And Brock Lesnar just goes...
brendan schaub
Shit.
joe rogan
That was the best, when the Hulk grabs that fucking Thor's brother, and he's like, I'm a god, and he just grabs him and just rags him on the ground, back and forth, busts up the concrete.
I fucking love the idea that some peaceful Mark Ruffalo character, who's this brilliant scientist, who's concerned with helping people, if you piss this motherfucker off, he becomes a bulletproof giant.
brendan schaub
That's pretty dope.
joe rogan
Not only did it happen so quick that he tried to shoot himself in the mouth, and by the time the bullet hit the skin, the Hulk spit out the bullet.
Come on, son.
It's the greatest fucking superhero character of all time.
unidentified
It's inspiring shit, though.
brendan schaub
Oh, the Hulk, you think?
joe rogan
Yes!
Everybody else can suck my dick.
Every single one of them.
You know why?
Because they all call on the Hulk if the shit goes wrong.
If everything goes wrong, like, what just sending the Hulk?
What's that asshole with the bow and arrow doing there?
Get Get the fuck out of there, Scarlett Johansson.
What are you going to do, triangle people with your stilettos on?
Shut the fuck up, everybody.
Call in the green guy, and let's just get this over with.
He's out there punching spaceships into oblivion.
And what are you doing?
Are you going to shoot arrows?
Are you going to shoot arrows at the spaceship, Archer?
Get the fuck out of here.
brendan schaub
I love you some Hulk.
joe rogan
He's the best!
He's the only one to call!
If I was Captain America, I'd be like, listen, this is stupid.
brendan schaub
Captain America?
Get the fuck out of my face!
joe rogan
Yeah, look, he wanted to get some water.
She's the only one that can calm him down.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Calm down, Hulk.
brendan schaub
Calm down.
joe rogan
Boy, that looks so fake there.
brendan schaub
That looks stupid.
joe rogan
That looks like my kid drew it.
unidentified
It looks like Shrek!
brendan schaub
There was two Hulks though, yeah?
It was Eric Banner and then the Mark Ruffalo.
joe rogan
There's been a bunch of them.
Yeah, Ed Norton was one.
Eric Banner was the worst.
I went to see that Eric Banner movie when I was, not that he's a bad actor, he's an amazing actor.
He was great in Chopper.
Did you ever see him in Chopper?
brendan schaub
He's a ridiculous actor.
joe rogan
Fucking fantastic.
But there was something about that Hulk movie with him that I was like, this is whack.
brendan schaub
That's not his fault, huh?
joe rogan
I went to see it super duper high, and when I went to see it super duper high, I was like, oh my god, the acting in this movie is so bad.
Marijuana is the number one detector of shitty acting.
You just sense it.
There he is.
Go big screen on that.
brendan schaub
That looks pretty fake too, son.
joe rogan
That's Eric Bana one.
That's early days.
That's the first Hulk.
brendan schaub
That's San Francisco Hulk.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So you see the difference between the Ed Norton Hulk on the right and actually the...
brendan schaub
The one on the left looks bloated.
joe rogan
Terrible.
brendan schaub
The one on the left looks bloated.
joe rogan
Bana Hulk looks so fake.
The Ed Norton one is so much better.
Which one's this?
jamie vernon
That's the Bana.
joe rogan
That looks like shit!
Now go to the most recent, the Mark Ruffalo Hulk.
Let's see what that one looks like.
Yeah, the Mark Ruffalo Hulk is the best Hulk.
Yeah, that's it right there.
brendan schaub
Looks a little more realistic.
joe rogan
A little more.
But I mean, obviously it's still a Hulk.
Ooh, go full screen.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's dope.
joe rogan
Yeah, if that thing hops into the octagon, Brock Lesnar, good luck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're fucked.
joe rogan
If your whole thing is that you're big and strong, and that's a big part of what Brock Lesnar's thing is, he's big and strong.
brendan schaub
It's his only thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean...
brendan schaub
He's like the Hulk of UFC fighters.
joe rogan
What are you, you gonna Mighty Mouse the Hulk?
brendan schaub
Oh, that looks real as shit.
joe rogan
Is that what you're gonna do?
You gonna move around him?
brendan schaub
It looks real as fuck.
joe rogan
That looks very real.
Well, that was the Ed Norton one, the opening scene when he fucking...
Ooh, that does look good.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it looks dope.
His teeth are fucked.
joe rogan
If they can figure out a way to do that to people, the world's going to be a totally different place.
It's not that far away.
Look, think of what they could do with steroids.
Did you ever see that guy who just died?
Rich Piana, his name is?
He's a famous internet bodybuilder guy.
brendan schaub
Oh yes, I saw him at Gold's a bunch of times.
Nicest guy ever.
joe rogan
He seems like a very nice guy.
His arms are as big as my entire torso.
Look at the size of this fucker.
He just died.
And I think they suspect painkillers did him in.
brendan schaub
I mean, I can't imagine steroids didn't have some sort of play in the death of this man.
joe rogan
It could very well have.
But they were suspecting painkillers.
Apparently, all the big cycles that he did were like a long time ago.
And he doesn't really do those big cycles anymore.
unidentified
Dude, he is jacked city.
joe rogan
That's so preposterous.
Look at that photo right there.
That is so preposterous.
Look at the size of his arm.
It's like he's got a person that's head is attached to his shoulder.
brendan schaub
Look at his veins!
joe rogan
And the person's like holding their body, like his bicep is a person's body with their arms crossed.
brendan schaub
It's like the three of arms put together in here.
joe rogan
He's enormous.
Or was, I should say.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
But yeah, you...
brendan schaub
He going to coma or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Look at that picture there!
Of him and this other giant dude.
What?
What is that?
Natural bodybuilder.
What?
What are you saying?
Natural bodybuilder Mike O'Hearn.
brendan schaub
That's Mike O'Hearn on the right.
joe rogan
Opens up steroid...
What is it?
Whatever.
Is that bodybuilding.com?
People get super into that shit.
jamie vernon
Muscle roast.
joe rogan
Muscle roast.
Okay.
If that guy's real, if that's a real natural bodybuilder...
brendan schaub
Not.
joe rogan
We need to find out what he's eating.
And let's see if he passes the golden snitch test.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's naturally on steroids.
He's just clean the day of the competition, probably.
All those fucking guys do it.
Why would you not?
You're not hurting anybody.
He's Shred City, though.
joe rogan
Natural bodybuilder.
Well, it's got to be possible to get a certain size.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's some genetics.
Like, the biggest freaks I know are genetically.
Look at my friend Klopp.
Tebow's fucking shredded naturally.
Those guys are, but that's too much.
joe rogan
Look at that picture of him with a six-pack of him.
Go back.
Oh, that's right!
Look at that picture of him.
Look at that.
Come on, son.
That dude's jack-sooty.
If that is natural, 100% natural, that's insane genetics.
brendan schaub
It'd be the most insane genetics I've ever seen, and I'd be willing to bet my life on it he has something running through his system.
joe rogan
But is it possible to be built like that with nothing else than genetics and hard work?
brendan schaub
What do you think, Joe?
I say no.
joe rogan
Well, I want to say no, but I think that Tyron Woodley could probably look like that.
brendan schaub
That guy's 6'4", sir.
joe rogan
I don't mean, like, the height.
I mean, if Tyron...
You look at, like, Tyron's body.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Tyron's jacked.
Like, naturally jacked.
Like, he has superior genetics.
brendan schaub
Look at his genetics on the left, though.
joe rogan
That's him?
brendan schaub
Yes.
So he wasn't born like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Genetically, he's not made that.
joe rogan
Well, he was partying back then.
brendan schaub
But look at any picture of Woodley ever.
He's shredded.
joe rogan
Jacked.
unidentified
Jacked.
brendan schaub
You can eat Subway every day and be shredded.
joe rogan
Francis Ngannou.
Here's another one.
Some people have superior genetics.
unidentified
It's weird.
brendan schaub
Keep mentioning black people.
unidentified
Yeah, black people have crazy genetics.
joe rogan
But, but, but, but, but.
There's got to be natural bodybuilders that are jacked.
I had a friend back in the day, Brian Frazier, a friend of mine from Boston who was a stand-up comedian who was jacked.
He was huge back in the day.
brendan schaub
But was he thick and tall?
joe rogan
Yes.
No.
He wasn't that tall.
He was like maybe...
I think he's 5'10 or 5'11.
But at the time, super jacked.
Like giant muscles.
And I know for a fact, he never did anything.
brendan schaub
That he told you about?
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
I'm telling you.
I know the guy very well.
He didn't do shit.
brendan schaub
But I know a natural bodybuilder, and he's a beast.
He trains for Doom.
He trains a lot of these guys.
His name's Mike Safai.
He trains out of Anderson Silva's gym, or used to it.
I think he's training out of Henry Gracie's gym.
And he's a natural bodybuilder.
He competes, and he is fucking shredded.
joe rogan
Is he big?
brendan schaub
No.
He's like thin and strong.
Yeah, there he is.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's shredded.
Now that's totally possible to do naturally.
brendan schaub
He's all natural.
Enough for a fact.
joe rogan
It can totally be done.
brendan schaub
His whole family's like this.
His brothers, his sister, they're all built that same way.
joe rogan
Totally can be done.
The question is, can you do what the other guy looks like?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
That's different.
brendan schaub
I shouldn't say no, because my buddy Klopp, he's 6'6", 270, and he eats like shit, and he's jacked and shredded.
If he got on a regular diet, like a strict keto, I'm sure he'd lean out even more.
joe rogan
And if he got obsessed with lifting, like he was lifting every day.
brendan schaub
Which he is.
joe rogan
Several times a day.
brendan schaub
Yeah, like it was his job?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, maybe it is possible.
joe rogan
You'd have to be a freak of all freaks.
It's like girls with giant natural tits.
Like, whoa, where'd that come from?
Like, they do exist.
brendan schaub
Yeah, God bless them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Guys with huge hogs.
They exist.
brendan schaub
Do they ever.
Do they ever.
joe rogan
People with big noses.
Am I right?
brendan schaub
Am I right?
joe rogan
Some girls must love a guy with a big nose so they can eat their pussy from behind.
brendan schaub
Some chicks love a big nose.
joe rogan
That's why.
brendan schaub
It's very strange.
joe rogan
They want to back their ass up into his nose.
They want nose in the ass, mouth on the pussy.
That's what they want.
brendan schaub
You think that's why they love a big shark nose?
joe rogan
Joey Diaz used to have a bit about it.
It's called doing the pigeon.
unidentified
I think that's what it is.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
For sure.
brendan schaub
But as a girl, you can't have a huge nose.
joe rogan
No.
That doesn't help.
brendan schaub
It doesn't help.
joe rogan
No.
Like Cyrano de Berger, it would help if she was lying on her back with her head leaning over backwards.
That nose could be like a taint rub, right?
That bird?
Oh, that bird's horrible.
Is that video that I put on my Instagram with this bird fucking up this chick?
A woodpecker finds these chicks in this bird nest and just starts jacking them, man.
Goddamn!
It's horrifying.
brendan schaub
Is that woodpecker on woodpecker crime, or is that like a pigeon he's fucking up like that?
joe rogan
I think that's just another bird, some other kind of bird.
brendan schaub
Holy fuck, he's bashed his brains in.
joe rogan
He ate his brains.
brendan schaub
See if he had that crisper, he could figure it out.
joe rogan
And that fucking chick can't do anything.
It's just getting literally stabbed in the head repeatedly by a woodpecker.
brendan schaub
Oh my god!
Fuck woodpeckers!
joe rogan
Man, man, people, we have a weird idea what nature is, and you need to see things like that.
Like, there's a great website, Instagram page, NatureIsMetal.
Is that the one that I, was that what I retweeted?
brendan schaub
NatureIsMetal?
joe rogan
It is NatureIsMetal.
It's one of my favorite, I go to that every day.
NatureIsMetal is crazy.
It's all clips of shit getting jacked.
Everything is crocodiles jacking gazelles and hippos jacking crocodiles and crocodiles jacking other crocodiles.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's an otter going ham on a croc.
joe rogan
That's an alligator.
But, yeah, otters are ruthless, bro.
If an otter thinks that a...
Look at that thing.
It's a fucking hawk tearing apart another bird.
brendan schaub
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
Dude.
Nature is metal.
unidentified
It's a great name.
brendan schaub
Let me see a more than an early one, though.
I'm not sold yet.
joe rogan
There's one of a lion head.
brendan schaub
Oh, that'll do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that.
Crocodile.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Look at that one.
Crocodile with another crocodile in its mouth.
brendan schaub
Doing a crocodile roll.
joe rogan
Swinging it through the air by its head.
brendan schaub
And ripping his face off.
joe rogan
They are fucking ruthless.
Go big screen on that.
unidentified
No new friends.
brendan schaub
Hashtag no new friends.
unidentified
Ripping his face off.
joe rogan
Hashtag no new friends.
That's the greatest hashtag ever.
brendan schaub
That's so funny.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking...
Look at that teeth on that thing.
brendan schaub
Did you see that reporter?
He was surfing with his friends in Sri Lanka last night and got eaten alive by a crocodile.
joe rogan
Oh, great.
brendan schaub
He went to go wash his hands and the crocodile was like, oh, cool story.
joe rogan
Reporter got him?
He got a reporter?
brendan schaub
No, the guy, his job was a reporter.
He was out in Sri Lanka just vacationing, surfboarding.
And a saltwater croc got his ass.
joe rogan
Goddamn saltwater crocs are terrifying.
Look at that one up top.
Oh my god.
Look at the one up top where the deer got jacked by a tree.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
Tree dropped on its head.
brendan schaub
The tree just fell on its head.
joe rogan
What are the odds?
brendan schaub
Not good.
It's a terrible way to go.
joe rogan
Terrible way to go.
Just landed right on his head.
brendan schaub
How the fuck does that only have 159 likes?
joe rogan
Because now we'll talk about it and get more likes.
jamie vernon
Page is about to blow up probably.
It's only got 17,500.
joe rogan
Page is gonna blow!
brendan schaub
It should.
joe rogan
Nature is metal and then underscore.
But go further down.
There's some fucking crazy ones on that page.
I go to this shit every day.
brendan schaub
I'm gonna follow it now.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot.
brendan schaub
Oh my god, that hawk's about to fuck up that snake there.
joe rogan
Look at that one.
Yeah, go back please.
Look at this one with this crocodile right here.
The mouth open with a zebra head in his mouth.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Oh, you know what?
People send me these all the time because when I was leaving Fox, I said I'm a zebra.
And I went, you ever seen anyone fucking ride a zebra?
You can't.
I'm a zebra.
People are like, really?
And then they send me these all the time.
joe rogan
Look at the mouth on that thing.
That is a fucking dinosaur.
brendan schaub
That's a dinosaur.
That zebra is fucking...
I'm not mad at his set of his teeth either than that, but he's obviously older, right?
Like, that's an old aged...
joe rogan
Oh, they fucked their teeth up pretty quick.
They probably don't live that long.
I mean, I would assume that zebras, much like any other animal that lives in the wild, you know, if you can get to ten years, congratulations, you did something amazing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're killing the game.
joe rogan
But those zebras, if you're like...
Looking at their...
Look at that owl about to jack that mouse.
brendan schaub
That's a beautiful picture.
It's a metaphor for life.
joe rogan
It's an amazing picture.
The zebra stripes, those are designed so that a lion has a hard time picking out one individual animal.
brendan schaub
Is that why they do it and they're always together in a herd?
Because you can't tell if you look at them.
I always wanted that because to me they would stick out being black and white in the goddamn desert.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Not in Africa.
joe rogan
This is one of the things they did.
They put a collar on a zebra to track them and every time they would do it, that zebra would get killed.
brendan schaub
Oh, because they could see it.
joe rogan
Because they could see it.
It would stand out.
I could see that collar.
Like, that's the one.
See that?
There's a pattern that they use for camo.
That, um...
There's a company called First Light.
They make, if not the best, one of the best hunting gears in the world.
They make this really fine merino wool clothes that they put camo patterns on.
When you sweat in merino wool, it's really good because you never get cold.
It's a natural fiber.
But anyway, they have this...
One pattern they use called ASAT. A-S-A-T. All season, all terrain.
And in a way, it kind of mimics what you see in a zebra.
So what a zebra is like, you can't make out the outline.
brendan schaub
No, yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's the blacks and the whites, the contrast.
It's like you have a hard time for an animal.
brendan schaub
And this camel's black and white?
joe rogan
This camo's got a few different shades in it, but the idea behind the invention of this camo was one of the first camos.
Like most camos back in the day used to be either like army shit, like fatigues, or they would be like leaves, like actual leaves.
Like a lot of companies started making like where it looks like photorealistic trees and patterns and stuff, which kind of works.
brendan schaub
Kind of.
joe rogan
The whole idea, that's ASAT. So see how that is like, it breaks up.
Looks like Yeezy Season 4. Go up right up there to the jacket, Jamie.
The jacket right there?
Yeah.
That's kind of a ghillie suit where it has all this extra phrase to it that you would use that if you were hunting turkeys because turkeys can see real good.
When you're wearing that, the idea is that all those stripes break up your outline.
That's sort of the exact same reason why a zebra has that shit.
brendan schaub
I did not know that.
I always wanted that.
joe rogan
I always wanted it too.
brendan schaub
Have you seen the new body suits they're doing in the water for sharks?
joe rogan
Hex suits?
brendan schaub
Have you seen those?
joe rogan
They're kind of dope.
Are you saying so the sharks can't see your electrical signals?
brendan schaub
No, it's for sharks so they don't think you're a seal.
joe rogan
Oh, what does it do?
Is it a different color?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's somewhere black and white if you look at them.
joe rogan
There's this thing called Hex, H-E-C-S, and they're these suits that people wear in particular when they go to...
Is this it, Jamie?
What is this?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Carbon, full-sleeve wetsuit?
No, that's just pretty.
brendan schaub
Nah.
joe rogan
That makes you look like a fish.
I'd fuck you up if you were in there.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah, you look like a sweet-ass delicious tuna.
joe rogan
Go to Hecsuit.
H-E-C-S. So I don't know if this is real.
So this is one of the things that I want to...
Just write Hecsuit.
H-E-C-S suit.
Um...
I would love people...
Yeah, hex suit.
I would love people to tell me whether or not this really works.
Because apparently your body is supposed to emit some sort of electrical signal.
And if you run your body over this thing, it registers your body's electrical signal.
But if you put this hex suit on and run your body over this thing, it doesn't register.
brendan schaub
Does that prove that it's really working?
The guy's chilling with turkeys?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
At least that guy's in shape.
joe rogan
I mean, but it works apparently, like noticeably works in the water.
Like this guy's, what he's doing here.
brendan schaub
He's just fucking grabbing lobsters.
I can do that right now.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
No, you can't.
They try to get the fuck away from you.
With this hex suit on, they've shown the difference between wearing it and not wearing it.
And it seems to allow, see this I'm not impressed with, because he's about to shoot this animal and that animal can't see him.
Anybody could do that.
I could do that with, like, clothes on.
If the animal can't see you, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, if the animal doesn't see you, it doesn't matter.
But if the animal sees you, the idea is that this hex suit is supposed to somehow or another protect you.
They shouldn't have shown that one, because that video didn't even mean anything.
It's like you couldn't see that the animal was looking his way.
brendan schaub
That's interesting, though.
joe rogan
See, it shows, like, see, go back a little bit.
So watch it shows when they walk in front.
No, you just had it.
Just leave it alone.
Go back.
brendan schaub
They're kind of showing the name, man.
unidentified
Okay, watch.
joe rogan
See, he's passing in front of it, and without hex, you see how it registers?
Now, with the hex suit on, it registers very little.
And this is somehow or another supposed to be recognizing the electrical signal that your body has.
brendan schaub
I got to piss so bad.
joe rogan
Why don't you go piss, man?
brendan schaub
Thanks, bro.
joe rogan
Get your piss on, son.
brendan schaub
Get your piss on.
joe rogan
See, this doesn't impress me.
This is a fucking armadillo.
How smart an armadillo is.
jamie vernon
Do you know anyone that has one?
joe rogan
John Dudley.
He believes in it.
That's why I'm curious about it.
Because I don't know how much...
There's John Dudley right now.
Hex testimonial.
I just don't know how much science is behind it.
I mean, a lot of times you want to believe that things work.
It works with coyotes, too.
That's the weird one.
Coyotes walk right up to people that are wearing it.
The idea is that animals might have certain senses and abilities to detect signals that you give off that we just don't possess.
So because we don't possess those abilities to recognize those signals, we don't recognize that these animals do.
Because we don't think of it as an option.
And what they're saying is...
It's entirely possible, especially with predators apparently, entirely possible that animals emit some sort of an electrical signal that animals are attracted to.
And then when they see this person wearing this hex suit, those signals don't come through and they don't know what the fuck you are.
Which is really fascinating.
See, electromagnetic signal, right?
Is that what it's saying?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know how much of it is real though.
I've never seen a study on it.
Do they have studies on this?
When you go up there, when it says proof, do they have a proof thing?
If you go to the top...
jamie vernon
I went to how it works.
joe rogan
Yeah, how does it work?
jamie vernon
That's where I'm looking.
There's no links, or it just talks about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, I feel like hex blocks your electrical signal.
Okay.
Seems to block that.
The real question to me is...
Do the animals see it?
They've done extensive studies on what animals do and don't see, as far as camouflage, and I think one of the ways they've done that, and what kind of light they see, one of the ways they've done that is through, like, they have, like, deer farms where they have undulates in captivity, and they feed them, and they only feed them if they can see certain things, or they show them certain things, and that's how they measure whether or not they're actually able to recognize patterns.
Because some patterns are really good.
Like some patterns just completely break up the outline of a person to an animal and the animal just sees some weird shit that looks like a bush.
Size of the mesh is crucial to effectively blocking human electricity.
jamie vernon
This Faraday cage is what it's explaining, which is the part I was just kind of looking at.
This is the science.
joe rogan
Invented in 1836, so just before a dude invented chiropractic by an English scientist, Michael Faraday, a Faraday cage is an enclosure made out of a conductive mesh material that blocks electrical fields.
By channeling the electricity through the mesh, it's used to protect electronic equipment from lightning strikes, Or in screen rooms, which allows for environments to be free of electromagnetic interference.
That makes sense.
What I don't know is whether or not an animal can see that.
I'd like to know.
Why don't you Google, can animals detect electrical energy?
jamie vernon
I'm pretty sure that's why it shows those flocks of birds floating around.
From what I've read, science, I believe, thinks that's how they're communicating.
joe rogan
Through electricity?
jamie vernon
Like schools of fish, or magnetic waves, electromagnetic waves.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it only makes sense if you watch those giant...
Flocks of birds all flowing together that they have some sort of way of interacting with each other that we don't understand.
Like, what is it?
I don't know.
But there's something going on.
I mean, there's no way you could ever get people to fly through the air like that.
I mean, just...
jamie vernon
I've heard people that said they've taken, like, the god dose of mushrooms can see it when they're, like, all fucked up and on the beach.
They can see magnetic waves coming in off waves.
But, like, I've never been that high.
brendan schaub
I apologize.
That took so long.
unidentified
No worries.
brendan schaub
That was a brutal piss.
That was not a piss, bro.
Listen to this.
I was trying to be cool.
I don't know if you could tell that the shit sweats.
No, listen to this.
What happened?
I haven't eaten anything all day.
And I went to Starbucks.
I went, you know what?
Give me one of those nitro brews.
I need a venti.
And she goes, we don't do ventis.
It's dangerous.
joe rogan
What's a nitro brew?
brendan schaub
It's like a crazy kind of like, I think a Guinness coffee that comes out of like a tap.
jamie vernon
Same shit.
joe rogan
Oh, it's like, it's just like a Cape Man Nitro?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
Cape Man Nitro, super strong.
I'm like, give me a venti.
You know, I got some shit to do.
joe rogan
So it's nitrogenated coffee.
brendan schaub
Yeah, super strong.
She goes, I can't give you a venti, only a grande.
I went, all right, fine, just put two shots in it.
She goes, we don't recommend it.
I go, put two shots in it.
joe rogan
So that's what I got.
brendan schaub
Yeah, put two shots in it.
You see that slingshot, bitch?
Put two shots in it.
She did that, and halfway through talking about camouflage, I went, oh, shit!
Miss Starbucks was right.
joe rogan
Yeah, that horn that blows off.
brendan schaub
I almost shit my pants.
I swear, that was the closest I've ever come to shit my pants on fucking...
joe rogan
On a podcast?
brendan schaub
On anything.
I don't shit my pants.
joe rogan
You don't shit your pants ever?
brendan schaub
No.
Remember when Brian Lydon said he shit his pants?
Because he was late or missed a show?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's hilarious.
brendan schaub
Grown men don't shit their pants.
joe rogan
He had a spare pair of pants in his trunk and just changed them.
What'd you do with the old pants?
I just threw them away.
unidentified
Classic.
joe rogan
Oh, you did?
How'd you clean up?
I just went to a gas station.
Oh, sure you did.
brendan schaub
He's the funniest guy ever.
joe rogan
Makes total sense.
jamie vernon
It's a car stink.
brendan schaub
Dude, I was trying to be cool.
joe rogan
It's probably a good idea to keep a pair of pants.
Underwear, socks, shoes.
Why don't you take one small change of clothes in your trunk?
Always a smart move.
I never do it.
Right?
It seems like if you have a trunk, what the fuck are you carrying?
What's in your trunk?
You have room.
It's not like it's gonna cost you gas mileage.
Just a little bag.
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
Yeah, it does make sense.
joe rogan
You don't plan for that.
unidentified
Even shoes.
joe rogan
Bring a whole outfit.
Yeah.
Bring a whole outfit.
An extra outfit.
So if something terrible happens, Well, I'll tell you right now.
brendan schaub
Something terrible will happen when I'm on the 405 in that goddamn slingshot with no AC and my stomach's on the frets like this.
joe rogan
Why did you get that thing?
What was going on?
brendan schaub
They gave it to me.
joe rogan
For free?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
I'm not that stupid.
I'm not like a rat.
joe rogan
They said, hey man, have this.
brendan schaub
They went, yeah, post on it, have it, yeah.
joe rogan
So you just have to tell people how ridiculous it is.
brendan schaub
They didn't even say that.
They say, if you want to post about whatever you want to do, man, we want you to take this.
Spin it around for me.
Cool, right?
Might as well.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
I love the fact that it's got a stick shift.
brendan schaub
You need to take it for a spin.
joe rogan
No, I'm good.
I feel weird when I drive that Corvette.
The Corvette convertible.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
No roof.
I'm like, ooh, there's nothing up there.
brendan schaub
Well, when I'm behind a truck, I'm like, God, if a rock spits up, I'm going to get hit behind the fucking eye.
I know, I always get out of the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta be clever about how you approach, like, large groups of cars when you have a convertible.
Or a motorcycle, I guess.
brendan schaub
That's why I like it, because I'm more in tuned with what's going on.
Like, fucking, I'm on it.
If I'm on my car, I'm so comfortable, the PDK, I can...
Right.
...navigation, bullshitting, jacking off, whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's interesting, like, does your car have the CarPlay thing where you can talk to it and tell it to text people?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
How amazing is that?
brendan schaub
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
It reads the text for you, and it tells you, like, would you like to reply?
And you're like, yes, I would, bitch.
brendan schaub
Text them back whatever you want.
You don't need to text anymore.
Text them back.
joe rogan
I wonder if you could program Siri where you say bitch after everything.
Of course, bitch.
Yes, I do, bitch.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
And if you don't say bitch, Siri doesn't recognize it.
I'm sorry.
What did you say?
Bitch, you heard me.
Yes, I did.
brendan schaub
That new iPhone drops next month.
I'm stoked for it.
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
There's two new iPhones.
brendan schaub
Oh, you know you have iPhone?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Finally.
joe rogan
There's two new ones.
Finally.
I only tried a Google phone for like a month.
brendan schaub
I feel like you were on that Google trip for a second, though.
unidentified
I did.
joe rogan
Well, I tried to get off the Apple tit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, don't.
joe rogan
I went with a Windows laptop, and I went with an Android phone.
Abandoned both of them.
brendan schaub
Come on, son.
jamie vernon
In the announcement for it, they said something when they were showing the Face ID that kind of was...
Alarming to me that I didn't know.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, terrible.
jamie vernon
The Touch ID, 1 in 50,000 chance that someone just unlocks your phone without your fingerprint.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
It doesn't seem like that secure.
joe rogan
One in 50,000 is pretty goddamn secure, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Pretty secure, but...
brendan schaub
I'll take my chances, Jamie.
jamie vernon
It seems so low.
joe rogan
How many dick pics are you carrying around?
jamie vernon
No, I don't have anything.
I'm just saying.
I mean, they can easily get on my...
I have Apple Pay put on my phone, so you can start using my card right away.
If you start paying for shit.
If you had my phone.
brendan schaub
The new ones, it's face recognition.
jamie vernon
And that's the next...
Well, it says it's one in a million on that.
joe rogan
You see that?
Yeah.
The problem with that is, well, I'm worried about that.
I'm worried about you being next to your girl, and your girl sticks your phone right on your face, starts it up, and then is like, oh, look at this motherfucker, Jamie Vernon with a bunch of dick pics.
You fall asleep, she does it.
Send in that one.
jamie vernon
It's the same, fall asleep when she puts your thumb on there and unlocks it easily.
brendan schaub
That's true.
If she tries to get my face on...
joe rogan
You touch me when I'm asleep, I will wake up immediately and choke you.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I just fucking...
jamie vernon
For this one, it says you have to be looking at it.
You have to focus at it.
joe rogan
Have your eyes open?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So then she drugs you, takes her fingers, pulls your eyelids back.
brendan schaub
She can do it.
Them hoes will figure it out.
joe rogan
All she has to do is paint fake eyeballs on your eyelids.
If you're asleep and she's got white paint.
brendan schaub
It'd just be crazy.
joe rogan
And then she puts like a little black sharpie mark.
brendan schaub
But it's like the most expensive phone ever?
jamie vernon
No, I don't know.
It's like $1,200 I think if you're buying it outright.
That's...
brendan schaub
I need that.
I get that Spider-Man.
Look at my phone.
My son broke the fuck up.
I refuse to get a new one.
joe rogan
Why?
brendan schaub
I'm waiting for the new one to drop.
joe rogan
But it's interesting.
It's coming out soon.
They're coming out with the iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and a 10 all together at the same time.
It's like, look, you can go Poe.
jamie vernon
They skipped the 9. It's just the X. No, it's a 10. Hold on.
It's your anniversary.
joe rogan
Jamie, it says, iPhone 10. How to pronounce the new iPhone.
Then you have Tim Cook saying, we call it iPhone 10. Boom.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Correct me if you're wrong.
brendan schaub
I didn't know that.
So there's a 9 and a 10?
jamie vernon
No, there is no 9. I skipped it.
joe rogan
There's an 8. But here's the thing.
You get these bullshit-ass dead spots where you don't have a screen.
brendan schaub
Not anymore.
joe rogan
So you can feel all poor next to that person that has the 10 that has no...
jamie vernon
And wireless charging.
joe rogan
The 8 has wireless charging too.
brendan schaub
And it's waterproof now.
You can go in the ocean with it.
joe rogan
Can you?
jamie vernon
I think that was with the watch.
brendan schaub
No.
With the phone.
Yeah, now it's water resistance.
That one's just a little bit waterproof, the new one.
But the new, new shit?
Water resistance.
joe rogan
Swim, son.
Swimming.
brendan schaub
Underwater picks.
joe rogan
The new one is 3, right?
iPhone 3. Watch.
The watch is the 3?
jamie vernon
Watch 3, yeah.
It has cellular added to it.
joe rogan
Ooh, I like it.
So you don't even have to bring your phone.
You can go running.
And then your girl's back at home.
She's like, I used your face to find your phone and now I'm calling you from your own phone to say, fuck you.
I'm lighting your house on fire.
You dick pic sending son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
Son of a bitch.
Dude, I don't get down with iPhone watches.
Not my cup of tea, man.
joe rogan
And then you get a phone call like three seconds later.
You're receiving dick pics, too!
brendan schaub
You're taking them, too?
joe rogan
Andy Dick wants to suck your dick!
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
And you didn't block his number!
brendan schaub
You sent him your address.
joe rogan
You're like, LOL! That's what I would say!
unidentified
If I wanted to suck a guy's dick, I'd say, LOL! Come on over and suck my dick!
joe rogan
LOL! I'll be on my way!
LOL! You just cut it out!
You're being so silly!
That's what they say if they know they're gonna suck it.
brendan schaub
LOL. Then you know you're in.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you say that, and then they call you up and go, hey, don't ever fucking text me something like that again.
I'm sorry.
brendan schaub
Just joking around.
joe rogan
That's like normal.
unidentified
But if they go, LOL. LOL is basically, yes.
joe rogan
LOL is like, she's like getting wet.
She's freaking out.
brendan schaub
LOL, you're silly.
joe rogan
It's on.
It's on.
People say, LOL. LOL, you silly goose.
brendan schaub
You silly goose.
joe rogan
gobble, gobble, driving over your house thinking about it.
What is it about these new phones?
How much do you need that new phone?
How much do you need that new screen?
It's like it's a trap.
And that's gonna be a piece of shit in a year from now.
A year from now, it's gonna be some new things.
brendan schaub
That's everything, though.
It puts pressure on you to get the new phone, because that's what's cool, that's what's hip, but they're adding new stuff to it.
It's like the new car.
joe rogan
Where's the fingerprint reader?
brendan schaub
There isn't one.
Just your face.
joe rogan
Well, you can go fuck yourself.
That's stupid.
What if my face gets beat up?
jamie vernon
It knows.
joe rogan
It knows.
jamie vernon
It's learning with you.
joe rogan
It knows if you grow a beard.
jamie vernon
It knows if I have a black eye.
Because you would have been looking at it earlier that day.
brendan schaub
It's kind of scary, man.
jamie vernon
It's supposedly learning with you.
joe rogan
Yeah, what if it fucks up?
jamie vernon
And that data is all stored somewhere, and it's supposedly encrypted.
joe rogan
Jesus!
The apple has my face!
jamie vernon
I just thought about, what are they going to do three or four or five years down the line when they have five years of your aging?
Of daily, 12, 15, 20, 30, 40 times a day.
joe rogan
Do you think it looks at Kylie Jenner and goes, who the fuck is that guy?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's not going to be able to recognize girls fucking getting that Kylie Jenner surgery.
joe rogan
Is it Kylie or Chloe?
Which one's the one that has the most?
Kylie.
unidentified
By far.
joe rogan
They're going to go, what?
Where's the rest of your jaw?
What's going on here?
brendan schaub
She's going to have to get a new iPhone every few months just to keep up with it.
joe rogan
I don't like that.
No fingerprint.
I don't think I enjoy that.
I think that seems stupid.
brendan schaub
You might love it, though.
joe rogan
No, because a cop is just going to take your face, hold it up, and they'll be able to pull you over.
They pull you over, they just take your phone, put it up to your face.
All you have to do is look at your phone.
I want to know what you're doing.
You can't look at my phone.
Oh yeah?
And they do that, and then they can just do it.
Cops have tried to look at people's phones before.
They've told people.
To see if you're texting?
They're allowed to put your finger on it.
They're not allowed.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yes they are.
They're not allowed to enter your password.
They're not allowed for you to ask what the password is.
That's why they'd say, for people, you should not use the fingerprint part because cops can actually actively use it because it's not specifically stated.
Like, you're not allowed- It's a loophole.
Yes, loophole.
brendan schaub
Oh, hell no.
joe rogan
You're not allowed to tell someone you want their password because that's an invasion of privacy.
You are allowed to take their finger and put it on their phone and open their phone up.
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Exactly.
Yeah, it's like technology moving too fast and we don't have the words and the language and the preparations to deal with that shit.
jamie vernon
There's a new system built into the iOS 11 which comes out in a couple days that allows you to Bypass that sort of if you quick tap five times you can turn off touch ID Hmm, so it's like it's basically what they're calling it is a cop Yeah,
joe rogan
I just don't think that's the way to go the facial recognition thing just seems Corny.
I gotta do this every time I want to buy something How come I can't just put my fucking thumb on it?
You know what it is?
Here's the problem.
These cunts can't figure out a way to get your fingerprint right off your phone yet.
Right off the main screen.
That's what they've been working on forever.
brendan schaub
Trying to get it on the big screen?
joe rogan
Yeah, so you just touch anywhere on the screen and it picks up your fingerprint.
That's what they've been working on forever.
They do not have that yet.
So they went with facial recognition, which they've already had for Snapchat and for Instagram filters and all those things where they see your face and then turn you into Abraham Lincoln or some shit.
jamie vernon
This does it way better than those...
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
But it's an acceleration of that.
What they haven't been able to do is get your whole screen to be a fingerprint sensor and still be able to show images and all that stuff.
jamie vernon
I think it's got something like six selfie cameras.
One's like IR, one's doing like dots like the Kinect camera was doing.
It's like a little Xbox Kinect.
joe rogan
Good lord with the selfies.
brendan schaub
The camera industry just done.
When's the last time you saw like a straight-up camera?
joe rogan
Well, you'd have to be like a guy who was a photographer, like Jamie.
Then you carry those goofy bricks because you want to impress chicks.
You know what he's doing?
He's just taking pictures of chicks all the time.
You're lighting.
Let me just fix your hair.
unidentified
Fix your hair.
brendan schaub
But even that thing...
joe rogan
Girls love that.
They love to pose.
brendan schaub
For sure.
jamie vernon
Dude, they go...
I see them all the time.
They just go on, like, little photo shoot dates with their, like, girls two and two, three, four, five at a time, and they're just taking pictures of each other.
They don't need to hire the photographer anymore.
joe rogan
I've seen that, man.
I was at a restaurant, and these two bitches just kept doing that back and forth with each other.
I was like, ladies, enjoy your meal.
And they were like, no, like this, like this?
Hold on.
brendan schaub
With their iPhones?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is the I'm about to take a selfie face.
unidentified
Ready?
joe rogan
There's a thing that girls do with their neck that they only do when they're about to take a selfie.
This is it.
unidentified
Ready?
joe rogan
It's like, that weird neck movement.
Trying to get shit right?
That's this weird selfie neck.
You don't ever do that any other time.
Except for when you're looking at your phone and you're like...
brendan schaub
You're just trying to get the selfie right?
Nothing is more awkward.
Nothing is more awkward seeing someone trying to take a selfie.
You ever seen that mom at the playground with her kid trying to take selfies?
She takes 40-something selfies.
joe rogan
You just do like this, bitch.
Smile.
That's what you look like.
Okay?
brendan schaub
You just roll with it.
joe rogan
It doesn't always look great.
brendan schaub
You don't need the perfect angle.
joe rogan
You're not tricking people, bud.
brendan schaub
Filters.
That's how they do it, man.
joe rogan
It's this weird chicken movement.
Chicken heads!
brendan schaub
Chicken heads.
unidentified
Chicken heads, that's where it comes from.
brendan schaub
Chickens be crazy, man.
joe rogan
It's not where it comes from, but it belongs in it.
brendan schaub
True.
It's in the same umbrella.
joe rogan
But that's a real chicken head.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, this is really...
Trust me, I have chickens.
This is a fucking chicken head move.
brendan schaub
That's what they do, man.
There's nothing more awkward than seeing someone trying to take fucking selfies.
It's so embarrassing.
joe rogan
This is definitely more awkward shit.
It's more awkward if your friend is taking you and you're a guy.
You're standing there like, hold on, bro.
Hold on, bro.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Hold on, bro.
unidentified
Hold on, bro.
joe rogan
Is it like this?
brendan schaub
It's so weird.
joe rogan
Bro, what do you think?
Like this here?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it okay?
brendan schaub
Get your ass back, bro.
joe rogan
If you're a guy and you're poking your ass out, like how many guys take pictures like this?
Hey, bro.
I'm going to look.
Look.
I'm mysterious.
I'm thinking about this book I'm writing.
Ass out.
brendan schaub
It's so awkward, man.
joe rogan
I saw a story about a dude who died because he was getting a dick operation.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was getting fat pumped into his dick like Kim Kardashian's ass.
brendan schaub
You're just trying to have a fat dick.
joe rogan
Had a fucking heart attack.
Fat went through his bloodstream somehow and his body locked up.
And that's a wrap!
And he was like 32 or some shit.
How old is he?
30. 30. 30 year old.
Relatively healthy person.
Wanted a penile elongation and girth enhancement surgery.
unidentified
How?
joe rogan
Holla at your boy!
brendan schaub
Holla at the girth.
joe rogan
Which includes transferring fat from one area of the body and replace...
See, he doesn't understand.
When we talk about having a fat dick, that doesn't count.
brendan schaub
That doesn't.
You take that literally.
joe rogan
You take George Foreman's fists.
You're like, man, I wish I had a fist like George Foreman.
I'm just going to pump fat in my hair.
It looks like Mickey Mouse's gloves.
brendan schaub
Yeah, no, it doesn't.
This guy fucked up, man.
joe rogan
He fucked up!
Well, he definitely fucked up because now he's dead.
He had a pulmonary fat embolism when fat traveled the bloodstream to his lungs and ruptured blood vessels.
Christ!
First case of a seemingly simple and safe procedure of penis enlargement by autologous fat transfer caused a sudden death of a healthy young man, according to the report.
Doctors believe this is the first case.
First of all, doctors, fuck you.
Because that sounds like an ad for dick surgery, which you just shouldn't get, okay?
Because you don't know what you're doing.
You're just making weird, fucked up dicks.
You're not making a bigger dick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, look at that.
It's a completely useless procedure.
It never works and disfigures, man.
joe rogan
What if your dick got fatter, but the head was the same size?
brendan schaub
Ah, you don't like that.
joe rogan
So it's like a big, giant guy with a tiny head.
There's this steroid dude, there's pictures of him on the internet, and his head is the size of a softball, and his body is as wide as his table.
It's like Beetlejuice.
brendan schaub
He looks like the henchman from Mario Brothers, the movie, if you remember that.
joe rogan
It might be fake, though.
It might be one of them photoshopped things.
Someone shrugs it.
brendan schaub
I love that guy.
joe rogan
That Beetlejuice movie was fucking outstanding.
brendan schaub
Classic.
joe rogan
What a classic.
brendan schaub
What a fucking phenomenal movie.
jamie vernon
It's one of those remakes things that are happening.
joe rogan
No.
Beetlejuice?
jamie vernon
I think he's going to be Beetlejuice though, I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's like a sequel?
jamie vernon
Something.
joe rogan
Oh, it'll probably do it.
Because he's creepier looking now.
Did you see it?
brendan schaub
Did you see it?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
I heard it's awesome.
I heard it's so good.
joe rogan
I heard it's really good.
brendan schaub
Fuck, I need to see it.
joe rogan
I need to see it.
brendan schaub
I love stupid shit like that.
Me too.
joe rogan
It's exciting to me.
brendan schaub
Last night people were like, have you seen it?
I'm like, best movie ever.
Oof, I can't wait, man.
joe rogan
I'm in.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
I'm all in.
brendan schaub
Just need to figure it out.
joe rogan
I think we need more monster movies.
Didn't you say that John Landis' son is remaking American Werewolf in London?
jamie vernon
They're redoing something.
So in the same vein that the Avengers exist now, they're doing the monster world again.
joe rogan
Oh, Christ.
jamie vernon
That's where the mummy is coming from.
joe rogan
Oh, like Frankenstein and the mummy are going to hang out together?
Dracula and all that.
jamie vernon
I don't know if they're going to be a fucking fighting team.
brendan schaub
I love a nice Dracula movie.
jamie vernon
Origin stories first, and then I'm sure there's going to be a monster mash fight or something.
brendan schaub
Mommy dropped the ball.
joe rogan
That's not what I asked, though.
I'm pretty sure John Landis' son, John Landis, the original director of An American Werewolf in London, my favorite movie of all time.
brendan schaub
That's your favorite movie of all time?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I still watch it to this day.
brendan schaub
Wow.
Which one?
joe rogan
First one, the real one, the only one.
brendan schaub
Came out what year?
joe rogan
1910?
I don't know.
1907?
I think I might have been right out of high school.
unidentified
Might have been like 85 or 86. Then there's American Werewolf in London.
jamie vernon
So he's made comments against the remake that his son is making, is what...
joe rogan
Oh, John Landis has made comments against his son's work?
jamie vernon
What a dick.
Six hours ago, there's a clarification of these comments.
joe rogan
Hey, how about you keep your mouth shut, Pops?
Just let your sun shine.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let him do his goddamn thing.
joe rogan
It's down 17. Yeah, but what if your son was like Eddie Van Halen's son and he just takes over Van Halen?
brendan schaub
Oh, that'd be a moment.
joe rogan
You're like, hey, fuckface.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that'd be a superpower.
joe rogan
You know, he starts singing.
He's like, I'm Van Halen, too.
No, no, no, you're not.
brendan schaub
No, whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
But dude, check my last name.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
Look at my driver's license.
Van Halen.
Oh, I can't use the Van Halen name?
How about I'm Mike Van Halen?
The Mike Van Halen band.
brendan schaub
Good?
That's Mike Van Halen.
joe rogan
Can I use that?
I'm going to sing Panama.
Is that okay?
unidentified
Is that all right?
brendan schaub
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Hot for teacher.
jamie vernon
They're just at the script process right now.
He's writing the script and it might get made, so it's not even that far yet.
joe rogan
Why is his dad tweaking?
jamie vernon
Someone probably asked him.
brendan schaub
There's a ways to go.
jamie vernon
Someone wrote a blog about it and it spread.
joe rogan
What year was American Werewolf in London made?
Let's guess.
I want to say 90. I'll say 90. No.
unidentified
87. I'll say 92. I'll say 87. 81. Wow!
joe rogan
Way off.
brendan schaub
But then there's another one, like a more current one, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, American Werewolf in Paris was terrible.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm thinking about.
joe rogan
But it had that hot French girl.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Oddly hot.
brendan schaub
See, when you said that's your favorite movie, I completely judge you because I was based on that because that's why I was so bad.
joe rogan
But that girl was in an amazing movie that nobody's ever heard of called Killing Zoe.
It came out right around the time that, see, Pulp Fiction was made by Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery.
A lot of people forgot about Roger Avery.
Roger Avery was a brilliant, brilliant screenwriter, really interesting guy, and he went to jail for like a drunk driving accident on the PCH in Malibu, like serious stuff, and he was actually tweeting from jail for a while.
Yeah, it was way, way, way back in the day.
Yeah, Julie Delpy.
But Roger Avery was tweeting from jail, like really interesting shit.
And one of the things that came out of that was that Quentin Tarantino used to have this rant that he did about Top Gun being like really gay.
And he did it in some movie, but apparently it's stolen straight up from Roger Avery.
brendan schaub
Oh, really?
He got it from him and just did his bit?
joe rogan
Roger Avery had mapped it all out.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
And Tarantino just ganked it.
brendan schaub
Took it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and did it in a movie.
Did it in a movie.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the word.
But the Roger Avery movie, Killing Zoe, is with that girl, Julie Delpy, and it's excellent.
It's really good.
It's a crazy, like, drama, crime drama movie.
brendan schaub
Quentin Tarantino can't miss.
Kills it.
Kills it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a bummer, though, when you hear that he stole Roger Avery's Top Gun thing.
I would like to hear his story.
Maybe Roger Avery says he stole it, but maybe him and Quentin and Roger Avery came up with it together.
brendan schaub
Maybe they were drunk, going back and forth.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And then maybe Quentin just ran, but I know people have done that before.
Doug Stanhope has had a problem with that, where he has guys opening with him, and he'll be on the road, they'll go to a diner, Doug will be riffing about something and they will do it on stage the next day because they don't think it's a bit.
It's like they're getting in under the wire.
Tarantiner and screenwriter Roger Avery, which whom he penned Paul Fisher.
That's what I said.
jamie vernon
No, it says the speech was written by them both.
joe rogan
Oh, the speech was originally written.
Yeah, but let's see if he says that for a separate feature.
While it's compelling, the theory errs on one.
Oh, is this the thing about him stealing it?
jamie vernon
No, this is just about the theory itself.
And then this mentions them together writing it.
joe rogan
While it's compelling, the theory errs on one key aspect.
The duo argue that Top Gun is subversion on a mass level, but Tony Scott did not set out to make Starship Troopers.
Much of its homoeroticism was happenstance.
Okay.
jamie vernon
I'm just showing you that they wrote it together here in this article.
joe rogan
Right, but find out.
If that's true.
Find out if that's true.
Find out if Roger Avery says Quentin Tarantino stole that idea from him.
brendan schaub
So Stanhope would be at a restaurant just making people laugh?
joe rogan
Hanging out.
Riffing.
Has a couple cocktails in him.
Riffing with his opening acts.
This was a long time ago.
But he had a real issue with it.
And those guys would wind up doing his riffs on stage.
brendan schaub
Like it was their own.
joe rogan
And I don't think he even wanted to say anything to him because he was all pissed off.
It was like...
Fuck, man.
I can't even rant around you guys.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Because that's like unspoken shit.
Not even unspoken.
It's like, you can't do that.
That's stealing.
Because those are your original ideas.
Yeah, and a guy like Stanhope, rather, that's how he formulates ideas.
He bounces them off friends.
If he can't bounce them off you because you're just stealing.
brendan schaub
Steal the shit and his concepts.
joe rogan
It does happen, though, you know?
Sometimes...
brendan schaub
Even this day and age, though?
unidentified
Sure.
brendan schaub
Because you get found out so fast.
joe rogan
Yep.
Just like Jon Jones.
People still do it.
People still cheat.
They try.
brendan schaub
You get caught, though.
In comedy, if we're all hanging out in the back and you say something funny and then a week goes by and some guy goes up and does the same thing that you said, you're fucked.
joe rogan
Comedy's way easier to do that with than, say, cheating with steroids.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
Different animals.
The thing with steroids is you could test it.
The thing with comedy is you could say, I thought of it too.
And you're like, okay, well, Top Gun does seem gay.
If you think about it, you know?
I mean, Val Kilmer's face is all sweaty and smooth-shaven.
He's got this, like, gay fuckboy haircut.
Him and Tom Cruise look at each other.
Tom Cruise gets mad, rides off on his motorbike because he's dangerous.
Dangerous people buttfuck, okay?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
Buttfuck with that dude with the crazy hair.
He's got a slippery, shiny, smooth face.
He comes out of the shower with a towel on.
They look in each other's eyes.
brendan schaub
Play volleyball and shit.
joe rogan
I mean, it's not out of the possibilities that you could come up with that, too.
If you just watched it, you're like, yo, dude, is it me?
Or is this a gay movie?
I can totally see you saying that.
That seems like a total Brendan Shaw line.
And we would be howling and be like, it is gay!
Luke, the woman, what the fuck, what's the woman's name?
I forget the woman who plays his girl, Kelly something, plays his female love interest.
She was probably like, what is going on here?
How come nobody wants to fuck me?
Where's my goddamn sex scene?
Who wrote this?
brendan schaub
The gay boy in the corner wrote this.
joe rogan
Literally, like, that's what it is.
Like, he's struggling with his true nature.
I mean, that's something that anybody could come up with.
But the question is, did Roger Avery come up with it?
And did Quentin Tarantino steal it?
Because, you know, Quentin Tarantino has been accused before of using the plot lines from a bunch of real classic Japanese movies for his films.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, like, um...
brendan schaub
Like The Hateful Eight and shit?
joe rogan
I don't know about that one, but I think that was the thing with Reservoir Dogs.
I think Reservoir Dogs was essentially almost like a tribute of a classic Japanese gangster movie.
brendan schaub
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See if that's true.
We need like two other people Googling shit.
brendan schaub
There's so much concepts out there.
jamie vernon
He's known for that.
He takes a lot of whatever influences he'll call it, but it's like Degarek scene stealing or whatever.
joe rogan
Right, which is why someone would probably accuse him of doing this with the Roger Avery line.
See if you can find Roger Avery tweets from prison.
It was fascinating because he was in jail and somehow or another he was able to tweet.
I don't know how he was pulling it off, but they found out about it after a while and they canned it.
brendan schaub
Canned his shit.
Well, Twitter's been around how long?
Not that long?
Seven years?
joe rogan
2006. Yeah, 11 years.
Shit.
And this was the beginning days of Twitter when hardly anybody was using it.
Oscar winning Pulp Fiction writer tweets on life in prison.
Look at his face there.
brendan schaub
He looks like pure shit there.
joe rogan
January, was that say 2008, for drunk driving.
Yeah, so he was quite a few years after it started.
brendan schaub
Sickness spreads throughout the facility, like bushfires.
joe rogan
It was great stuff, man.
I remember reading it.
It's really interesting stuff.
See, you can find it.
You wouldn't even think about that, right?
Like a sickness spreading through the place like a bushfire.
Amazing.
brendan schaub
Like a poet with his words.
joe rogan
Well, he's a brilliant writer.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's why that movie Killing Zoe, which is his movie, What else did he make?
Super underrated.
brendan schaub
Starship Troopers, it said?
joe rogan
No, I don't think that was him.
I think that was someone else.
They were just talking about the homo eroticism.
Oh, gotcha.
Versus Quentin Tarantino's...
jamie vernon
Rules of Attraction, I think, was the one big one he made, too.
Do you remember that?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Bunch of fucked up shit happening in that movie.
joe rogan
He's got a weird mind, for sure.
brendan schaub
Gonna have to be.
joe rogan
That's right, Beowulf.
That was a crazy movie, man.
You're watching a live video game.
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, Beowulf is weird.
Oh, Silent Hill, alright.
joe rogan
Yeah, Beowulf is like, they did it CGI, but not realistic.
Remember that?
brendan schaub
Well, because it started off as a video game, right?
joe rogan
No!
It started off as a fable.
It's an old, old, old story.
And they used, uh, back when...
Angelina Jolie is hot.
That's when she hypnotized Brad Pitt.
Got him to start drinking.
brendan schaub
Adopting random cats and shit.
joe rogan
She cracked that dude.
She cracks them all.
That's a black widow right there, boy.
brendan schaub
Billy Bob Thornton had Billy Bob Thornton wearing her blood around her neck and shit.
joe rogan
They were both wearing each other's blood.
brendan schaub
Crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, she was wrecking them back then.
It was just too powerful an attraction.
Those lips, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that I did.
joe rogan
Out of the world.
Out of the world.
brendan schaub
That movie was weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I didn't know she was the tiger and panda.
joe rogan
Now you know.
brendan schaub
Killing the game.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's, um, that Beowulf movie was fun, because it was, like, animated, but, like, they used people's faces, so it was, like, kind of close, but you knew it wasn't real.
It was real weird.
brendan schaub
I don't know if you could pull that off today.
joe rogan
You could.
It was good.
Yeah, it was a fun movie.
It was good.
Like, that movie?
brendan schaub
Well, I guess Avatar's a little bit of that.
joe rogan
Nah, because Avatar, the people look like people.
In this movie, nobody looks like a person.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but the avatars do look like aliens, but they still have the same kind of concepts.
joe rogan
CGI quality.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you can tell it's the actor.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
But it looks a lot better than this shit.
brendan schaub
Way better.
joe rogan
But that's also because it's not a person.
See, that's the sneaky trick about CGI, is that CGI works best on something that's not real.
brendan schaub
Because we have nothing to base it off of.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why CGI is so bad with animals.
Like when you see like those wolves in the Game of Thrones, like that's not really there.
brendan schaub
Although Jungle Book said, what up?
joe rogan
It's not bad.
brendan schaub
Pretty good.
joe rogan
Pretty good.
brendan schaub
Pretty fucking good.
joe rogan
It's getting way better for sure.
brendan schaub
Way better.
joe rogan
It's like, it's at the edge of what they call the Uncanny Valley.
You know what the Uncanny Valley is?
It's like the gap between something that looks hyper-realistic and something that looks totally fake.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like you get to this point where like, wow, almost.
It's real close.
brendan schaub
And then you can't tell.
joe rogan
I wish I could stop clearing my throat.
Try not to, folks.
You're getting mad.
No, it's the weed.
Smoked weed before this podcast.
brendan schaub
I'll take that throat problem over shitting my pants right now.
unidentified
I'm worried for that slingshot.
joe rogan
I'll just light that bathroom up one more time before you leave.
You don't want to get on that PCH and start spraying people behind you when that ocean wind hits you.
unidentified
Woo!
brendan schaub
Fucking.
Fucking.
unidentified
It's fucking trouble.
joe rogan
Imagine you're driving in your car and just shit splatters on your windshield.
brendan schaub
Bro, you shit on my Porsche.
unidentified
What in the fuck?
brendan schaub
You shit on my fucking Porsche.
We have problems.
joe rogan
If you were in that slingshot, and there's diarrhea just flying out of your ass, and maybe you have beaver fever.
You know what beaver fever is?
Beaver fever is when people drink water.
They get out of the ground, like a creek water.
You get giardia.
It's from beavers shitting in the water.
Like, literally, you're getting bacteria.
Giardia literally comes from animal shit.
brendan schaub
Well, I got beaver fever from this coffee.
joe rogan
But when you get it, you're, like, hurt, and you're like...
brendan schaub
Not doing well.
I'm trying to be cool.
Trying to put on my happy face.
joe rogan
But you look like you have plenty of energy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I feel alright.
I'm a good actor.
I feel like in any given point I could shit my pants.
joe rogan
I just can't believe you haven't shit your pants before.
Ever?
brendan schaub
Maybe when I was a kid.
joe rogan
Man, one time I was coming home.
brendan schaub
Or maybe in here just now.
joe rogan
I was coming home from Fear Factor once and I filled my pants up like one of them Glad Hefty bags like a construction worker would use.
He'd throw cement in there or something.
I just couldn't hold it in.
I was like, Jesus!
Jesus!
Oh no!
unidentified
It was just epic.
brendan schaub
Why?
joe rogan
What car were you in?
I don't remember.
brendan schaub
Did you shit your Supra?
joe rogan
No, it was past that.
The Supra I had in 95 or something.
unidentified
You just let these logs get over?
joe rogan
I didn't want to.
I don't remember the exact specifics, but I do absolutely remember filling my underwear with shit.
unidentified
In my car going, fuck!
joe rogan
I just couldn't, maybe I was stuck in traffic.
I don't remember the specifics, but I for sure shit my pants.
unidentified
It must have been so bad for you to go, fuck it!
joe rogan
It was no, I didn't have a, there was no argument on my part.
I really didn't have the willpower.
There was nothing there that could stop this from taking place.
It was just gonna take place.
This levels to everything, bro.
This levels to diarrhea.
brendan schaub
I agree, man.
joe rogan
There's certain levels of diarrhea where, like, listen, I don't care how much sphincter workouts you've been doing.
brendan schaub
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, when that thing's coming.
joe rogan
Do you think, I would imagine, like, your butt is probably, you could really, like, you know how girls do, like, Kegel exercises?
Kegel exercises, to me, it's like, man, who's got that, is that muscle even developed?
Like, you're on a long road ahead of you, tightening that bad bitch up.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
I don't know if it's possible.
joe rogan
Sit there!
It is!
Like, Russian chicks can carry weights with them.
There's a woman from Russia that has, like...
unidentified
They can do it.
joe rogan
She has, like, the world record.
She's like 70 kilos with her pussy.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
She clamps down.
They put, like, a golf ball on the end of a rope and attach it to a kettlebell.
brendan schaub
I bet there's some gay boys who can carry some shit.
joe rogan
And this bitch stuffs that golf ball in her pussy and just...
unidentified
Clamps it down.
joe rogan
Carries that weight around.
brendan schaub
I don't want that.
joe rogan
But your butt would be way easier to clamp down.
But I don't care who you are.
If you had the diarrhea I had that day, it's coming out.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you right now, if you get a metro brew with extra shots, you go and sizzle in your pants.
joe rogan
How to do butt kegels.
There we go.
Here we go.
What's the website we're dealing with here?
jamie vernon
Luxury spot.
joe rogan
Luxury spot.
Is it a girl website?
jamie vernon
Probably.
joe rogan
Butt kegels.
jamie vernon
Butt kegels.
joe rogan
What they are and how to do them.
Get larger, please.
Let me read this.
No, no, no.
Larger.
Yeah, there we go.
Why do butt kegels?
Kegels are designed to tighten the...
Wow.
Look at this word.
P-U-B-O-C-O-C-C-Y-G-E-U-S. Pugokake.
Pupococcus muscles.
Your asshole!
The PC muscles are used for two things.
Clenching your anus and controlling the flow of urine.
Anytime you stop yourself midstream at the urinal, these are the PC muscles at work.
brendan schaub
Well, my shit's working overtime right now.
My anus clenching skills, I'm like Cain Velasquez.
Like, I have stamina.
joe rogan
Women with strong PC muscles tend to have tighter, stronger vaginas, which often means stronger contractions during orgasms.
If you know anything about orgasms, you know that stronger is always better.
All caps.
If you know anything about orgasms.
That's not a very technical way to write.
brendan schaub
Men, on the other hand...
joe rogan
Use the PC muscles to stop their urine mid-flow, but also to stop urine from coming out in the first place.
When you feel the need to use the bathroom, but have to hold it thanks to a long line, those are the PC muscles doing the work.
So you're clenching your PC muscles so you can stop your flow of piss.
Or you're tightening up your asshole.
Or you will be able to clench to stop gas from passing through your anus, to hold your waist until you reach a toilet, and even to eliminate waste more efficiently.
You'd be surprised, bitch.
And be better at getting buttfucked.
brendan schaub
Buttfucked.
unidentified
That too.
brendan schaub
Really tightened down on the dick.
joe rogan
How about, why did he leave that out of there?
You're talking about kegels.
But Kegels is an exercise that they use for tightening your vagina to enhance intercourse.
So you're calling it Kegels, and you're saying, I'm doing it to stop shitting myself?
How often is this taking place?
Maybe you should reconsider your diet before you sit around like an asshole just clenching your butt all day.
brendan schaub
Well, I wish I did those exercises last night.
joe rogan
Well, no, then you'd be fatigued.
You want to do them like two weeks ago.
You want to start it out.
brendan schaub
You got to peak at the right time.
I didn't expect this, though.
joe rogan
Got to build up.
I did my run today, and I went harder and stronger than I've ever done it before.
I still suck at it.
brendan schaub
Long distance?
joe rogan
It's all hills.
You know, I'm doing two miles in these very steep hills.
brendan schaub
Beastie.
joe rogan
But I can do it longer.
I know I suck at it still, but when you know that you're making just a little bit of progress, just a little bit of progress, you know?
That's the same thing with butt kegels.
I've been running for a long time.
brendan schaub
Still running with those vibrant shoes?
joe rogan
Not today.
Today I didn't because I've been hunting with these things.
These Solomons.
brendan schaub
Don't I have laces on them?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Like Velcro for kids?
joe rogan
They pull tight with like a cord and then it slides down.
The cord tucks into the mouth of your shoe.
Very easy to tighten up when you're in the field.
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
joe rogan
Out there in the field.
brendan schaub
You don't have time to tie your shoe.
joe rogan
But I like the Vibram five fingers better, but I wanted to get a real hard run in today.
And I have to be more careful where I step when I wear those five finger shoes.
I can just go reckless, hard, full out with these things on.
I'll step anywhere.
It doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
So you can get a better workout.
joe rogan
Yeah, because with the Vibrams, if I hit a sharp rock, I'm kind of fucked.
With this, I'm not even feeling that shit.
With these things, I can run over pretty much anything.
But I think for controlling...
What's up?
brendan schaub
So close to shit in my pants.
joe rogan
Just go, we'll wrap it up.
We'll wrap it up.
It's almost 2 o'clock.
brendan schaub
I know, we got this.
unidentified
I want to fuck with my sphinx or muscles or whatever.
joe rogan
Keep it together.
Your face is amazing.
unidentified
Self-discipline.
joe rogan
This is your face.
unidentified
Ready?
joe rogan
Here's you.
unidentified
Like, Jesus.
joe rogan
You know what you like?
You know what your face looks like?
You ever do that teacup ride at Disney?
When you do that thing and you're spinning and you're kind of going too fast.
You're like...
Me?
brendan schaub
I don't want to be the first guy to shit his pants on the podcast.
joe rogan
Me and Cam Haynes and our kids got in one of them teacup things, and with me and him going full clip, I mean full clip.
I don't know there's a limitation on how fast those things go, but it ain't getting any faster.
Anyway, we got it.
It was so ridiculous.
We were spinning so fast.
brendan schaub
Did you guys feel sick?
joe rogan
Oh, totally sick.
Dude, my youngest, my seven-year-old is fucking nuts.
She loves to go on those things fast.
Like, there's a carousel at the mall that's actually way faster than the one at Disneyland.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they have a teacup thing on there.
And you go right down the street, the Panga Mall.
You grab that fucking steering wheel and start whipping around.
It goes so fast.
Your head is like, you're holding your, you have to use all your muscles to keep your head from just bending over.
That's what you look like right here.
brendan schaub
You're like, that's like...
joe rogan
It's the same thing.
It's like you're on a teacup.
brendan schaub
I really regret driving that slingshot.
joe rogan
Like spitting.
Dude, just stick your asshole up in the air when you get on the highway.
When you come over the crest of the 405 and you get that big long hill, just pull your pants down, lift your ass in the air, and just...
brendan schaub
No, son, I'm taking Topanga Canyon so no one sees me shit that slingshot out.
joe rogan
Callan has a great story about being with a girl once, like many, many moons ago, and he was going on a hike with her and he had a shit, and so he came up with something like, hold on, I'm ready, I hear something, and he made a game out of it that he ran and shit, and she thought it was really funny, you know, and she's like, what are you doing?
He's like, nothing, I heard something.
No big deal.
I'm just making sure that we're safe.
And then they kept hiking and he's like, oh my god, I have to shit again.
And then he ran away again.
And she's like, what are you doing?
And then she realized he was shitting.
She's like, oh no!
Oh no!
Sorry!
He's just out there in the woods.
unidentified
There's nothing he can do.
joe rogan
He's shitting himself.
brendan schaub
There's just nothing he can do.
It's a fucking animal, man.
It is life.
It is life.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing, man.
Like, you know, like the inefficiency of the body.
Like, breaking everything down, but not this stuff.
Get it out of here.
brendan schaub
Your body's like, this is not good, man.
Get it out of here now.
joe rogan
I wonder if, like...
brendan schaub
It's like hot lava.
joe rogan
That's a good...
Is that a good...
Design?
Like, is there any animal?
Is there any animal, like, or plant?
Does a plant do that?
Like, the plant takes things in, but the plant doesn't shit anything out, right?
brendan schaub
Plant gets rid of waste.
unidentified
Does it?
joe rogan
It gets rid of oxygen.
It processes carbon dioxide and turns it into oxygen.
But it's not waste.
That's like us.
We breathe out carbon dioxide.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's waste.
It's just we're transferring.
brendan schaub
But if that carbon dioxide was in your body, you'd die, right?
So we're getting rid of it.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't kill you.
Obviously, you're making it.
You're pushing it out.
You just don't want to have too much of it and get sick.
But do you know that the air is not really mostly oxygen?
Do you know what most of the air is?
Nitrogen.
Nitrogen.
Like a massive percentage of it.
I think it's in like the high 80s, right?
jamie vernon
I want to say 68%, something like that.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
jamie vernon
But the plant just turns it into carbon dioxide.
That's it.
joe rogan
That's all they do.
That's amazing.
So what they're getting out of the water and out of the soil, they figure out a way to use.
But what percentage of the air is nitrogen?
I really want to say it's in the 80s.
But I don't know.
I'm just making it up.
You know, they pull nitrogen out of the air and use it for fertilizer.
jamie vernon
78%.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, that's high.
joe rogan
It's a lot.
It's mostly nitrogen.
jamie vernon
21% oxygen.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
You would think the air is mostly oxygen and carbon dioxide.
unidentified
For sure.
brendan schaub
That's what we taught in school.
But all the other animals, living organisms, maybe besides plants, release the waste, same as we do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Every other mammal, fish, they all do it.
You know what's crazy is that there's nitrogen around us all the time and a dude figured out how to extract that nitrogen out of the air and use it for fertilizer and that's why there's so many people on the earth today.
There's a guy named Fritz Haber and he made something called the Haber method of extracting nitrogen.
He did it like in World War I. He's a genius.
He also created Zyklon A, which is the shit that they use.
Agent A? No, the stuff that they gassed the Jews with.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
But he didn't mean to make it, right?
No.
He made Zyklon A, which had a scent to it.
So you could tell when it was there to get away from it.
They removed the scent and created Zyklon B. And that's what they used to gas the Jews in the gas chambers.
Crazy.
And he was Jewish, which is even more fucked up.
So he was there during World War I. And then when World War II was happening, that's when he had to leave Germany and wound up dying and having a heart attack.
Yeah, it was crazy shit, man.
He was also...
This was like the nuttiest thing about Haber.
At the time, he was receiving the Nobel Prize for creating the Haber method of extracting nitrogen out of the atmosphere.
brendan schaub
Rightfully so.
joe rogan
He also was wanted for crimes against humanity because he was gassing the British and Canadian, I think it was, troops when they first started.
He was the first guy that initiated a gas attack.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Crazy.
So this guy that's responsible, the nitrogen from the Haber method is responsible for some insane percentage of the nitrogen that's in people's bodies that comes from food.
Like they think it's something around like half.
Like half of the nitrogen that you have in your body from food was a direct result of them extracting it out of the air with the Haber method.
Which is like, what?
And this is the same guy.
That was gassing allied forces.
And this is the same guy that created this Zyklon A, which eventually became Zyklon B that they used to gas the Jews.
brendan schaub
Brilliant dude.
joe rogan
Brilliant dude, but nuts.
His wife apparently shot herself in front of him because she disagreed with who knows what the whole thing was, but what he was doing and he was off to war and all this thing.
So in front of him, he shot herself.
He left his dying wife with his 13-year-old son and said, see, gotta go to war.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's a terrible person.
joe rogan
Who knows?
brendan schaub
Brilliant, but terrible.
joe rogan
Who knows what the actual circumstances were?
I guess you'd have to get all the variables of why he left.
The son might have had other people to watch out for him.
He had no option other than to leave.
brendan schaub
You could drop him off at a friend's house, for God's sakes.
joe rogan
I don't know if the kid was with somebody or not, is my point.
But that's the story behind it.
This one brilliant guy that figured out a way to extract nitrogen became this fucking creator of a monster.
Yeah, but also the reason why, I mean, maybe somebody would have figured it out eventually, but he's the reason why they were able to do that during World War I. Don't you think someone would have eventually came along and figured it out?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Most of that stuff.
joe rogan
I think with most things.
With most things.
I think that was the case with the invention of a light bulb.
I think there was a bunch of people that were working on it at the same time.
And the invention of...
I think the telephone was the same thing.
Radio was the same thing.
There's always like...
Almost inventions, like we were talking about that chip that sort of rewires your DNA. There's always these inventions that open up the possibility of other inventions.
And then the technology that allows for an invention like that gets analyzed by a bunch of different people.
It's always one of those things where...
Anytime something happens today, there's a network.
It's very rare that one person figures one thing out that nobody ever saw before.
It's like there's a network of inventions and innovations at all sides.
Yeah, because you need machines and computers and all these different things that other people have created that allow you to do the calculations to invent something new.
So all it feeds off of all of it.
brendan schaub
And then isn't it the best kind of, sometimes, the best marketer, best talker, they get the notoriety for it sometimes?
joe rogan
Sometimes, yeah.
Sometimes.
Just like fighting, right?
brendan schaub
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
I'm coming for a full circle.
joe rogan
So, before we end this, Canelo or Gennady Golovkin?
brendan schaub
Oh my god, what a fucking fight.
joe rogan
Well, your lady is Mexican, so you gotta root for Canelo, otherwise you'd be ostracized.
brendan schaub
And they're from the same hometown, Guadalajara.
joe rogan
They'll kick you the fuck out.
brendan schaub
I'm rooting for Canelo.
joe rogan
I'm rooting for a good performance, Brendan Schaaf, because that's what I do.
brendan schaub
That's what you do.
joe rogan
I do.
I have to.
brendan schaub
Not in this case.
joe rogan
Yep.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because I want to see what happens.
I want to see what happens.
I don't have, like, a guy I want to win.
Like, if Triple G wins, I'm not going to be bummed out.
brendan schaub
No, I just want a good fight.
joe rogan
Exactly.
I want to see what happens.
brendan schaub
But I'm that guy.
I don't want to see either guy lose.
Like, I like both of them.
I'm like, fuck, I don't want any guy to lose.
unidentified
I don't want anyone to have that L. Put that weigh-in today, too.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, would that little kid punch that guy in the dick?
brendan schaub
That's his son.
Punch that guy in the dick.
Billy Joe Saunders.
He's a great follower.
joe rogan
Why is this little kid on the fucking stage?
brendan schaub
Look, he gets on the scale.
He gets on the scale.
And the guy's like, no, don't do that, dude.
joe rogan
Sam, look at this.
He's flexing.
The kid's on the scale.
And he's just like, what's up, little man?
And he punched him.
And he kicked him.
That's so fucked up.
brendan schaub
It's such a bad look.
joe rogan
Well, it's so stupid that they let that little kid be there.
What if he punched that kid right in the face?
Shut the fuck up.
brendan schaub
At least slap him.
joe rogan
What if he kicked him?
brendan schaub
Be good to go.
joe rogan
Tie boxing him right in the face.
brendan schaub
Not to throw up.
I don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
Next time, the lady at Starbucks says, don't put two extra shots.
brendan schaub
She's fucking right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't add extra shots to a caveman nitro, unless you're Tate Fletcher.
Tate Fletcher can consume.
He can throw that caveman nitro down like it's water.
Let's just wrap this up before you shit yourself.
brendan schaub
I'm gonna throw up and shit myself.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
What do you think's going on here?
joe rogan
Not good.
brendan schaub
This is my prediction.
I think if Triple G doesn't stop him, Canelo wins in a decision, the public's piss.
Because you gotta look at the politics of it.
Golden Boy.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
And Canelo's the headliner.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
You're saying if Triple G... Hold the music, please.
You're saying if Triple G outboxes him, he won't get the decision?
brendan schaub
Box him for you.
joe rogan
I think you would.
Because I think it sets up the rematch.
brendan schaub
I think you get a rematch no matter what, even if it gives a decision.
As long as no one gets stopped.
joe rogan
So you really think that if Triple G puts on a show and outboxes Canelo, he'll get robbed?
brendan schaub
You'd have to outclass him for like 10 rounds, which I don't think you will.
I think if it's even close, like let's say it's like 7-6, something crazy, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
My concern with...
Canelo is that he might not have the endurance for a prolonged firefight.
brendan schaub
And you think Triple G does?
Because he did it against Jacobs.
You got pretty tight against Jacobs.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that was a goddamn firefight as well.
brendan schaub
Completely different fight.
It was a very good fight.
Some people don't think he won the fight.
joe rogan
You don't think he won that fight?
brendan schaub
It's close.
joe rogan
Oh, I thought he won the fight.
brendan schaub
I'd give it to him.
It was a very good fight.
joe rogan
It was fucking close.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Jacobs, completely different fight than Canelo.
unidentified
Jacobs can move.
joe rogan
I actually just watched that the other day.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
joe rogan
I forgot how good it was.
brendan schaub
Jacobs is a motherfucker.
joe rogan
I had to clear some space on my DVR, so I was deleting some boxing matches.
brendan schaub
I know how that goes.
joe rogan
You know how that goes.
You get to a certain thing, you're like, why do I have 100 Ted Nugent Spirit of the Wild saved?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you have to shove bullshit in there.
joe rogan
So I got to that fight and I said, ooh, let me watch this again because this Triple G fight's coming up this weekend.
unidentified
That was like...
joe rogan
Jacobs can fight his ass off.
That was a great fight.
brendan schaub
Toughest fight for Triple G. Everyone's like, oh, he's over the hill.
I'm like, no, Jacobs is just a monster.
And completely different fight than Canelo.
His footwork.
joe rogan
It makes me wish Terrence Crawford was just a little bigger.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
You know, because he's about 45 now.
brendan schaub
He'll go up to 47. He wants to fight Pacquiao.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I wish he was like 160, you know?
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
Because he's a thin fella.
Small.
I think part of his style is he's built perfect for the way he fights.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Amazing.
joe rogan
He's got perfect endurance.
If you put more weight on him, he'd probably be weighed down a little.
It'll slow him down.
He's definitely in his zone.
40, 47. That's the right weight class.
brendan schaub
Boxen's having a killer year, man.
joe rogan
It is.
brendan schaub
Now they have Anthony Joshua.
He's fighting.
And then you have...
joe rogan
Legit Goliath heavyweight champion built like a statue.
brendan schaub
Looks like a Greek god.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And then you also have...
joe rogan
And really well-spoken, super polite...
brendan schaub
Under-armor athlete.
joe rogan
British guy.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And then you got Wilder, Deontay Wilder, fighting fucking, what's his name?
The fucking Cuban killer.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, King Kong.
brendan schaub
Yes.
He's fighting him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I think it's a rough fight for Wilder.
I think it's a bad idea.
Then the winners of each of those will fight.
joe rogan
It's a good time for boxing, but tomorrow's the big one.
Tomorrow's the big one.
Tomorrow really shows who the superstar in boxing is.
Because Lomachenko, I think, is one of the most skillful guys ever.
But he's not being challenged.
He's not a draw.
Well, there's also not a guy in his division that stands out as being the guy he has to fight.
brendan schaub
He's like Mighty Mouse.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Whereas, like...
Canelo and Triple G is the fight that everybody's wanted to see for a while.
I think you're going to get a trilogy from that.
Who knows?
Who knows how it plays out?
brendan schaub
I can't wait though.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder.
I really wonder what's going to happen.
I'm super fascinated.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
And then you also have, what do you think about David Branch versus Luke Rockhold tomorrow?
brendan schaub
I haven't seen it myself.
People are like, hey, have you seen Rockhold at Wayne's?
Doesn't look the same.
joe rogan
What Wayne's?
brendan schaub
They had Wayne's yesterday.
joe rogan
Oh, yesterday at weigh-ins.
When you're saying, at weigh-ins, I was thinking, like, other weigh-ins?
Like, what weigh-ins?
brendan schaub
Oh, I hear you.
joe rogan
I forgot that it's today.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
The weigh-ins today.
The fight's tomorrow.
brendan schaub
The weigh-ins were today, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And people were complaining about it.
unidentified
Let's see.
joe rogan
Try to get a picture of Luke Rockhold from today's weigh-in.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I mean, Luke's a...
You could argue he's the best middleweight in the world.
You know, he had that rough...
joe rogan
How can you argue with that if Michael Bisping knocked him out?
brendan schaub
We...
Hear me out, dude.
You could say he's not, because Michael Bisping's the real champ, but he got caught by Bisping, right?
But before that, Luke Rockhold's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Hector Lombard's back.
Did you hear that Tiago Alves had a back out?
brendan schaub
Yeah, because of a hurricane.
joe rogan
Lombard's fighting a big guy.
Was that what it is, because of a hurricane?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's nothing wrong with Rockhold.
He looks fine.
brendan schaub
The thinnest I've ever seen him.
joe rogan
Talking shit to each other.
brendan schaub
Rockhold should destroy him.
joe rogan
I want to hear what they were saying, man.
Oh, listen, David Branch's no joke, dude.
Don't get confused.
If Rockhold fucks up and gets clipped by Branch, what are they saying to each other?
No volume?
brendan schaub
Branch's been talking shit for a while now.
joe rogan
Can't hear nothing?
Yeah, see if you can hear it.
unidentified
That's Anik.
joe rogan
Let me hear this.
unidentified
I'm gonna break you up son.
brendan schaub
Or break you up, son.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
That's a good fight.
unidentified
That's not that dramatic.
brendan schaub
I wasn't great shit talking.
I'm gonna break you up, son.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
brendan schaub
I'm gonna break you off, son.
joe rogan
It'd be funny if you said that.
brendan schaub
I'm gonna get all up in that ass.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
unidentified
What does that mean?
brendan schaub
What exactly does that mean?
joe rogan
Well, you're not gonna win a fight, right?
You know that.
So what are you gonna do?
You break me up?
brendan schaub
You're gonna break me up?
unidentified
What does that mean?
joe rogan
What does that mean?
brendan schaub
Luke's been gone for a while.
Branch is a tough customer, and he's a former world champion at World Series of Fighting at heavyweight, middleweight.
But if you're not in the UFC, I don't give a fuck.
You're not fighting the same guys Luke Rockhold fought.
joe rogan
Well, he fought Rumble, and he went to a decision.
brendan schaub
In World Series?
joe rogan
Lost a decision to rumble in World Series.
brendan schaub
At light heavyweight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's rumble in World Series.
He wasn't exactly a world beater.
joe rogan
It wasn't that long ago.
brendan schaub
It wasn't the rumble in the UFC. Also, Dave Branch had his run in the UFC before World Series.
Not good.
Then it was a World Series of fighting.
Does work.
joe rogan
Well, Gerald Harris KO'd him with a slam in his first fight.
unidentified
Great slam.
brendan schaub
From the guard.
joe rogan
Picked him up and slammed him.
It was a great slam.
brendan schaub
In the UFC, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then he lost to...
It's like, it depends like how focused, motivated.
Very skillful.
He's very skillful.
His ground game is very good.
brendan schaub
Talking about Branch or Rockhold?
joe rogan
Yeah, Branch.
brendan schaub
I think I'm a ground Rockhold.
See, you can't say underrated because he's underrated because he's fighting, he's playing grab-ass in World Series of Fighting.
It's not even close to that.
joe rogan
I mean, you're talking about WNBA compared to NBA. I just think he's very talented, and if Rockhold doesn't take him seriously the same way he didn't take Bisping seriously, he'd get fucked up.
100%.
brendan schaub
There's a lot of pressure on Rockhold, because he's been gone for a while.
He needs this win.
The only way I think Rockhold gets fucked up is, again, if he doesn't take him serious, and if his heart's not in it.
But if a game Rockhold shows up, a game David Brandt shows up, Rockhold destroys him.
I can see Rockhold even submitting him.
joe rogan
Underrated with his top position.
His top game is like having a fucking tree on you.
brendan schaub
His jiu-jitsu is ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, very ridiculous.
You look at the Lyoto Machida fight, beat the shit out of him from the top position.
When he got Weidman down, you could see Weidman was shocked.
brendan schaub
He submitted Bisping with one arm after a head kick, but still.
I think Rockhold's stand-up is going to be the difference maker in this.
joe rogan
And he's got a long reach, man.
brendan schaub
He's huge.
joe rogan
He's got to make sure that he doesn't fuck up and get clipped again.
But I want to see what happens, because when a guy like Rockhold, who has a lot to lose but not a lot to gain, fights a guy like Branch, who has the golden opportunity in front of him.
I mean, if Branch can beat Rockhold, it's just gigantic.
Elevates him.
Huge.
And I've been watching his training footage.
He's training fucking hard.
Just the question is, is it hard enough?
Is he in that kind of shape?
Is he at world-class level?
He's really never fought anybody like Rockhold other than Rumble in the World Series.
brendan schaub
But also, with Branch, it's like, are you gonna take the fucking governor off and go after it?
Because his last fight, maybe it's just a dance partner.
Even the World Series fight, he's not murking, guys.
So it's like, in the UFC, he's never been that guy everyone was afraid of.
Luke Rockhold will take the governor off and kick you in the fucking face.
joe rogan
It's a very interesting fight because it's supposed to be, if you looked at it on paper, it would be more of a showcase fight for Rockhold.
Rockhold was the former champion.
I don't think David Branch is ranked in the top five.
brendan schaub
I think he's nine.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
So it's a big opportunity for Branch, you know?
How old is Branch?
I want to say he's like 36. Can't tell the black guys.
How dare you?
You son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
It's a good thing.
joe rogan
35. Yeah, so he's not too old.
It's going to be interesting.
And then Rockhold is like, what, 30?
Rockhold's still pretty young.
I think.
brendan schaub
The thing about Rockhold, he needs this fight because out of sight, out of mind.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
He doesn't find a grip, so everyone's like, all right, let's see it.
joe rogan
Not only that, everybody remembers Bisping clipping him, knocking him out, and then talking mad shit to him inside the cage after he knocked him out.
brendan schaub
Is this fight tonight or Saturday night?
joe rogan
Tomorrow night.
brendan schaub
Is it for sure tomorrow night?
unidentified
We're doing a fight companion, but you're not gonna be here.
brendan schaub
You guys are doing a fight companion instead of...
joe rogan
I'll watch that later.
brendan schaub
Triple G. I can't miss Triple G. I gotta see.
joe rogan
Maybe I'll watch a little bit of Triple G. You're crazy.
A little bit of that.
brendan schaub
I cannot fucking watch.
jamie vernon
We've got multiple screens here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, we'll watch both.
Dude, I'm too correct for Triple G. Why don't I put one of them on YouTube as well?
Bravo playlist.
In the background, you see Tower 7 collapsing.
We'll put K1 on one of the screens.
brendan schaub
I just can't miss it, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, this card's not that bad.
You know, it would have been a lot better with Tiago Alves and Mike Perry.
That would be a crazy fucking fight.
brendan schaub
Mike Perry's a monster.
joe rogan
They're both American top team, too.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, Perry's a monster, but Tiago is just very skillful.
There's a big difference.
Okay, he's fighting Alex Reyes.
brendan schaub
Stepped up.
joe rogan
Alex Reyes is no joke, man.
13-2.
Who's Alex Reyes fought?
unidentified
Short notice.
joe rogan
I've seen him fight.
Yeah, right?
Like, what kind of shape is he in?
Can he make the weight?
What does it say?
No record there?
It's not?
Well, they have to update it.
Fight history.
Alright, let's wrap this fucker up.
Good night, everybody.
Fighter and the Kid, TFATK.com.
brendan schaub
Long Beach, next Friday.
Laugh Factory.
Laugh Factory, Long Beach.
TFATK.com, live.
joe rogan
Live.
Tickets for the first show just went on sale today for New Year's Eve.
Tickets for the second show, the 10 o'clock show, I think they're sold out.
At the Wiltern in Los Angeles, me and the great and powerful Ian Edwards, who's, in my opinion, one of the funniest fucking comedians working in the world today.
So first show is going to be at 7.30.
Second show is at 10.00.
7.30 tickets went on sale a couple hours ago.
All right, you fuckers.
We'll see you soon.
Bye-bye.
Big kiss.
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