Sept. 5, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| *Pewds* Alright gentlemen, we're live with a freshly fed Uriah Faber. | ||
| No more dieting, no more weight cutting. | ||
| Is his mic on? | ||
| Hello? | ||
| There we go. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yeah, just pull that sucker up to you. | ||
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Got it. | |
| And Cody motherfucking Garbrandt. | ||
| Finally made it. | ||
| Yeah, here. | ||
| Gentlemen, what's happening? | ||
| Just chilling. | ||
| We had a nice little beach run and I jumped in the ocean. | ||
| Cody kept his shoes on and all that good stuff. | ||
| You still got a mouthful of those green belly bars, don't you? | ||
| You tuck it in your mouth like a squirrel. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| These teeth are special, too. | ||
| I have pockets in here. | ||
| I need to floss twice a day. | ||
| This guy was making fun of me. | ||
| He's like, bro, you've been brushing your teeth for 20 minutes. | ||
| 20 minutes straight brushing his teeth. | ||
| I brushed my teeth, walked out, and I was like, man, he's still brushing his teeth. | ||
| Made me have to second guess that I brushed my teeth long enough to have to go in there and do it again. | ||
| I got big teeth, man. | ||
| I never had braces or anything, so I've got all these natural little gaps. | ||
| I'm like a squirrel. | ||
| My food gets stored up in there. | ||
| I've got to get it out. | ||
| I understand. | ||
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I understand. | |
| How does it feel to not have to worry about—we were talking about this before the podcast—not have to worry about weight cutting anymore, to be able to eat healthy, not banged up anymore? | ||
| Man, it's been really, really nice. | ||
| You know, I always kind of envision, after even wrestling in college, having a break and then We went 14 years longer fighting people, but it is really nice to be able to... | ||
| I mean, you go train. | ||
| I train when I want to, but I don't do the stuff I don't want to. | ||
| I get in and do the grappling rounds and whatnot, but I just feel so much better. | ||
| I feel like I look healthier. | ||
| You do look healthier, but you made out of retirement perfect. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, you had a long career, but you didn't get too banged up. | ||
| Like, you just... | ||
| And you picked the right time. | ||
| You went out with a win, with a quality opponent, like, right off into the sunset. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It was a little luck, a little bit of... | ||
| It just felt right, though. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| The last fight went out to, what, 5 million people on Big Fox. | ||
| It was the first fight... | ||
| In my hometown, in the new arena, it's like the heart and revived our town. | ||
| We had Cody fighting for the belt coming right up. | ||
| It was just perfect, man. | ||
| Yeah, you timed it good. | ||
| You timed it good. | ||
| It's nice to see someone do it the right way, and I hope other guys coming up can learn from you in that regard. | ||
| Well, one of the things I thought about was, first and foremost, Like, I've been rocked more in the last two and a half years of my practice and live fights than I had in my entire career, which is, you know, a lot of different factors. | ||
| Probably, you know, how many times you're rolling the dice. | ||
| You know, you get hit in the head a bunch of different times. | ||
| Things are loosened up a little bit. | ||
| You're getting a little bit older. | ||
| Guys are getting better. | ||
| I got Cody Garbrandt in the gym and Chad Mendes and, you know, Lance Palmer, these guys that hit heavy. | ||
| So... | ||
| I was just like, that's one factor. | ||
| Then I lost two fights in a row for the first time in my career ever, even though it was a decision to Dominic and a decision to, uh, what's his name? | ||
| Uh... | ||
| Oh, Riviera. | ||
| Jimmy Riviera. | ||
| And it was, like, kind of lackluster losses, but nonetheless, it was, like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just, like, you know what? | ||
| I'm not going to... | ||
| I'm going to call this one in a good time. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Very smart, man. | ||
| And I really do hope more guys learn, you know, and pay attention to how you did it and do it the right way. | ||
| Because, like, how do you guys feel about, like... | ||
| You've seen a lot of these guys are going over to Bellator, and I think Bellator has signed some really good fighters, like Rory McDonald, Lorenz Larkin, Gegard Mousasi. | ||
| They've got some great talent over there, but they also have guys that are late 40s, 50s. | ||
| Freak show stuff. | ||
| Yeah, freak show stuff. | ||
| For me, we always talk about this. | ||
| I told Uriah, I said, if I start getting fucked up and they're knocked out, I'm going to keep fighting. | ||
| Make sure that you pull me away from it. | ||
| Be the homie that says, hey, sits me down. | ||
| Hey, let's do a different career path. | ||
| I always say that. | ||
| That's one thing I always say. | ||
| We're fighters. | ||
| We're always going to fight through it. | ||
| Obviously, a lot of Different reasons, you know, financially or sometimes it's just hard to walk away. | ||
| What do you do in, you know, the next chapter of your life? | ||
| People don't set that up. | ||
| You know, luckily, I'm fortunate. | ||
| I have a lot of, you know, good people around me. | ||
| So, you know, I have different avenues to go and I always tell them, hey, if I start getting fucked up in there, stop me. | ||
| Tell me I'm done. | ||
| It's also important to understand that the kind of intensity and focus that's required to be a great fighter, you could do anything. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Just apply it. | ||
| Yep, just apply it. | ||
| Just figure out what that next thing is going to be and go at it the same way you went at your championship career. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I always tell these guys, you know, we do talks before and after practice, and... | ||
| It's like a feather in the cap mentality. | ||
| We've got guys in there that won't see the UFC daylight. | ||
| I mean, they'll never see a step foot in the octagon. | ||
| But they get a little bit of pride, whether it was one day or it was 10 years or whatever, of being a part of that team. | ||
| And that's something they add to their life. | ||
| They take on them with the next thing. | ||
| Somebody just comes in for a week. | ||
| Some guys are going to make it to the big show. | ||
| Some guys are going to be world champions. | ||
| Some guys are going to be Hall of Famers. | ||
| Whatever your journey is, that's a proud thing. | ||
| You can put a feather in the cap and move on to whatever you're doing next. | ||
| But it's a bigger picture. | ||
| Journey's never over. | ||
| It's just always changing. | ||
| What do you do for a guy like Lance Palmer, who's a real world-class guy, but he's fighting in... | ||
| What do they call it now? | ||
| It's not World Series of Fighting anymore. | ||
| They have a new name for it, right? | ||
| Did they change the name? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like Real Pro Fighters or something like that. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But the problem is, nobody's watching. | ||
| Very few people are watching. | ||
| But he's a real, world-class, professional fighter. | ||
| Like, you see, when Justin Gaethje came over to the UFC, you realize, like, hey, this fucking kid is world-class. | ||
| And he's been fighting in an organization that no one's watching. | ||
| The hard part about that is, like you said, you've got a Gaethje and you've got a Lance Palmer. | ||
| They're still fighting tough-ass dudes over there. | ||
| So it's the same level of competition sometimes, sometimes even worse. | ||
| When they get all the Russians over in Bellator, those Russians are tough, dude. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| For Lance, we just have to exit him at the right opportunity. | ||
| He has to get on a little winning streak and be at the right time in his contract and be able to jump out and go to the big show. | ||
| But it's hard because he's fighting these tough guys. | ||
| The last guy he lost to, he broke his hand in the first round, and then he's fighting a tough guy, and it's like, oh, he lost in this show. | ||
| He lost against a world-class dude, and he's a world-class fighter. | ||
| It's hopefully just something where he can make that transition over. | ||
| How do you guys feel about win-lose paydays? | ||
| One thing that bothers me about MMA is that MMA, if you win, you get a certain amount, and if you lose, you get less. | ||
| I feel like you should have a contractual amount that you get paid. | ||
| And I feel like when you're leaving it up to the judges sometimes, and the judges, I mean, I'm sure both of you guys have been involved in, you know, at least teammates, getting terrible calls. | ||
| And you've seen it, and you go, what in the fuck? | ||
| You know, like, look, even in boxing, the Conor McGregor-Floyd Mayweather fight, two of those judges had Conor only winning one round. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're smoking crack. | ||
| They're crazy. | ||
| I was looking around at those judges, too. | ||
| They were very familiar. | ||
| Some of them were MMA judges also. | ||
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Right. | |
| There's a lot of them that did that. | ||
| They started with boxing and then they learned a little bit about MMA and then they came over and started judging MMA. But there's a lot of them that literally don't know what they're judging or know very little about it. | ||
| And your career could be... | ||
| I mean, you might have a hundred and a hundred. | ||
| So a $100,000 swing on someone who doesn't know jack shit, right? | ||
| Oh, it's terrible, dude. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| I guess for me as a fighter, I look at it like, it's rewarding, you know? | ||
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Right. | |
| But then in the opposite scale of it, you can be on that losing call and horrible call, the refs screw you. | ||
| But I don't know, for me, it's MMA is so pure. | ||
| It's the most pure thing that you can do. | ||
| So you've got to go in there and fight for two checks just more. | ||
| You're training, you come out with two checks, you lose, it's... | ||
| For me, honestly, and I always remember getting a check afterwards, especially when I first started, I was like, oh yeah, I got paid for this. | ||
| Like literally, like it had nothing to do with the money at all. | ||
| And then you got that check and then you're like, oh man. | ||
| So if you're doing it for the right reasons, It should be, yeah, just your set amount. | ||
| I think that is to warrant against the guys that are doing it for the wrong reasons. | ||
| I think it was a good motivation at first or a good idea at first. | ||
| Exactly, when they're trying to build it. | ||
| But now it's not, we're not building it anymore. | ||
| Now it's a world-class professional sport. | ||
| And, you know, I remember Uriah when you were fighting in King of the Cage, dude, outside. | ||
| Yeah, I remember. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was the first time I saw you fight. | ||
| I think you were fighting 55, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I had to start. | ||
| I mean, there was no weight class for me at that time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, I remember talking. | ||
| I remember I was all pumped because Rogan knew who I was because he followed all the underground shit. | ||
| I was super self-aware of how much my notoriety was in the bigger show. | ||
| Because YouTube, I started looking on there and I'd be like, I only have 1,500 people watching my shit on there. | ||
| And then Kid Yamamoto has like 250,000. | ||
| I'm like, fuck. | ||
| But yeah, I was fighting. | ||
| I mean, I fought Tyson. | ||
| My first loss... | ||
| It was against Tyson Griffin in Kanocti Casino in the parking lot. | ||
| And I hit him, like, kneed him, inside tripped him, and did a head dive into the steel pole and just gashed my head open like eight seconds into the fight. | ||
| And I'm just pouring down blood. | ||
| I remember that they didn't even have padding on the pole. | ||
| Well, they were supposed to do it, but the crew was running out of time, so they didn't even take the time to put the padding on the bottom level. | ||
| Leather on the top of it. | ||
| And I'm just fucking gushing blood, man. | ||
| I think we talked about this last time I was on your show. | ||
| Yeah, I think we did. | ||
| Paved the way, man. | ||
| Yeah, for real paved the way. | ||
| That was a terrible way to pave the way. | ||
| Fuck that! | ||
| But, you know, like I said, a lot of guys can learn from you, and I think it's good, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| What's it like, you know, training in his gym? | ||
| And, like, when did you come here? | ||
| You came there, like, three years ago? | ||
| Yeah, about going on four. | ||
| Going on four now. | ||
| Almost four years. | ||
| I came out. | ||
| I was off an injury. | ||
| I had... | ||
| Symptom of vertigo from small concussions, and I broke my hand in my pro debut. | ||
| So I had a whole year layoff, and I always reached out to Uriah. | ||
| Lance was out there, so I knew Lance, wrestling him and his brother throughout our wrestling careers. | ||
| He always came and wanted me to come out there. | ||
| I finally hit Fayettebrook when I was 18, about, hey, I'm going to come out, check the gym out, see if it's a good date. | ||
| He ended up picking me back. | ||
| It wasn't until like four years later I was able to make the trip out there. | ||
| I said I had a year off. | ||
| I was like, dude, I'm not wasting any more time. | ||
| I know I'm good. | ||
| I want to see how good I am with some of the best in the world. | ||
| And we had all those killers out there. | ||
| They had TJ, Chad, Faber, Joe, Danny. | ||
| And Chris was on. | ||
| Holdsworth was on. | ||
| He just won the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| That's a bad dude right there. | ||
| How's his head doing? | ||
| Uncrowned champ, bro. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Uncrowned champ. | ||
| He's doing okay. | ||
| I think it made him look at things a lot different. | ||
| He's like a gem in the gym. | ||
| He's a coach for us. | ||
| Everybody just soaks up what he's got. | ||
| And is he just going to stick with coaching now? | ||
| Or is he thinking about fighting in the future? | ||
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I think so, man. | |
| How old is he now? | ||
| How old is Chris? | ||
| 27. Still young. | ||
| Very young. | ||
| And he's been off for what, two years now? | ||
| Almost longer. | ||
| When TJ won the belt, it was his last fight. | ||
| They fought on the same card. | ||
| And so he was dealing with some concussion issues? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of guys, I mean, remember TJ Grant was going to fight Benson Henderson for the title? | ||
| Started getting some concussion issues. | ||
| I mean, Holdsworth would have it where I'd look at him and one of his eyes would be all black and one would have like a little skinny dot in the middle. | ||
| And I'd be like, dude, what's going on? | ||
| And he'd be like, but like Holdsworth is like weirdo Master Tong always used to say, hey, TJ, champion, 80%. | ||
| Holdsworth, champion, 100%. | ||
| He would never come to our team gatherings. | ||
| He wouldn't go to the river. | ||
| He wouldn't do anything. | ||
| He was just all about training, almost like a problem. | ||
| But that's what happened to BJ Penn when BJ Penn won the BJJ World Championship, the first American to do it. | ||
| You get an obsession. | ||
| And he was just vision, vision, vision, had this obsession to be the best. | ||
| He was knocking guys out on accident in practice, high kicks and knees, you know, with knee pads on, like, just because he's good all the way around, but his jujitsu is the top. | ||
| Yeah, super good. | ||
| I remember coming out there and... | ||
| With all those guys in a year layoff. | ||
| And I was like, man, I'm going to see how good I am. | ||
| So I went out there and mixed well, good with the guys. | ||
| And I had a fight lined up. | ||
| I have a fight in two weeks, so I literally went out there for a week. | ||
| Faber came in the last day that I was there and matched me, put me through the gauntlet with all these Team Alpha Male guys. | ||
| It was wrestling day, so I was going with these guys. | ||
| And we walked off the mat, and he's staring me up and down, looking at my tattoos. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| He's like, what do you want to do? | ||
| I'm like, I want to fight in the UFC and be a world champ. | ||
| And he's like, alright. | ||
| And he's like, when can you come back out? | ||
| I'm like, I'll be back out next week. | ||
| And I'm sure hundreds of thousands of guys have been in there and said the same shit to him. | ||
| So I was like, I'll be back out. | ||
| Came out, you know. | ||
| The week after, we shook handshake. | ||
| He's like, alright, man. | ||
| He's like, get to 5-0 and we'll get you to the UFC. And just every fight I was saving up, I would fight. | ||
| We came out there for a week, did a camp, knocked him out, flew back, suitcase, was staying at the fighter house. | ||
| It was like 12 people in there from Japan, Canada, all over. | ||
| I mean, it was just... | ||
| Man. | ||
| You have a weird setup, right? | ||
| Like, do you still have that block in Sacramento? | ||
| The block of houses, that's how our team got built, and that was like, I bought a house in the time of the market where anybody could buy a house, like state income loan, and I didn't, I'm like, I'm gonna buy a house about like a... | ||
| Pre-2008? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Before the crash? | ||
| Yes, before the crash. | ||
| It was 2005 or 2004 or 2005, and I had no job No income, really. | ||
| I was coaching wrestling camps and I was getting like $7,000. | ||
| But you could do it. | ||
| My Egyptian buddy was doing loans and he's like, I get you a loan. | ||
| I'm like, really? | ||
| He's like, yeah. | ||
| Say an income, do this, do that. | ||
| Work history because you're coaching now and you went to school as a teacher. | ||
| It's a two year, like all these different things. | ||
| I didn't know that that's the reason our whole economy crashed. | ||
| But I was able to get a fucking... | ||
| But worked with you. | ||
| Yeah, it worked for me. | ||
| I never defaulted. | ||
| I just moved all sorts of buddies in there. | ||
| On that block of houses, we had probably 45 people that went through there. | ||
| Chad lived there. | ||
| TJ lived there. | ||
| Justin Buckles lived there. | ||
| Master Tong lived there. | ||
| Fabio Prado, our coach, lived there. | ||
| We had four or five houses. | ||
| At this point, we've been selling them off. | ||
| Hopefully now, the sport's at a place where we can be in a nicer neighborhood. | ||
| So we're all trying to get in the same neighborhood in East Sac, the fabulous 40s. | ||
| That's the nice neighborhood in Sacramento? | ||
| That's the new block. | ||
| Sacramento's an interesting spot because you guys are surrounded by... | ||
| It's kind of country in a lot of ways. | ||
| There's like the rivers there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, it's beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, I love Sacramento. | ||
| A lot of outdoors activities. | ||
| Tahoe's close, San Fran. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Our way. | ||
| Reno. | ||
| It's a good spot. | ||
| It's a good centrally located spot. | ||
| And I mean, that's what I always say. | ||
| And I think Cody, like, you know, as rough as Cody's background was, he had a core, like a town that, like, rewarded him for being a champion athlete from football, from wrestling, from boxing, etc. | ||
| And there's a heart to it. | ||
| That's why I feel like Cody's such a good person in general. | ||
| Like, when you get Cody, like, you know, dealing with people and individuals walking on the street... | ||
| He's like a gentleman and has a heart for the kids that have disabilities, these kind of things. | ||
| That comes from that small town where there's accountability. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You're a good part of the community. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I think Sacramento has a big enough city but a small enough town feel for that, which you lose some other places. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| All the little mom and pop shops we go to. | ||
| Big Team Alpha Male fans, we get a discount. | ||
| It's almost like a Friday Night Lights football town, kind of. | ||
| Like, oh, we're the fighters out of there, so we get the hookup. | ||
| It's nice, and everyone's super nice with us. | ||
| So I moved to the gym. | ||
| The old gym was... | ||
| Downtown, so we moved it over by the stadium. | ||
| It's a state-of-the-art facility. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| We've got to drive through Fab 40s. | ||
| Where I live, I drive through the Fab 40s. | ||
| That's who's who making the nicest houses. | ||
| It's always nice to drive through that neighborhood. | ||
| I'm like, I'm going to buy a house here and go to the gym. | ||
| It's a nice little change-up this year we've had. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So right now, you're prepping to fight TJ to defend your title for the first time. | ||
| First of all, what does it feel like to be a UFC motherfucking bantamweight champion in the world? | ||
| Man, it's awesome. | ||
| I'll have it so fast. | ||
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Gotta feel pretty badass. | |
| Yeah, it's awesome. | ||
| Now it's about what you do with the belt. | ||
| We were just speaking about this on our run. | ||
| Yeah, he started taking off when I started talking about this. | ||
| He got fired up. | ||
| Yeah, I was getting fired up. | ||
| I hate to run. | ||
| He's like, come on, let's do these runs. | ||
| He's always after the practice to do these... | ||
| Shitty ass runs, dude. | ||
| Shitty ass sprints on treadmills. | ||
| I'm like, dude, this is not fun. | ||
| Who wants to do this? | ||
| Ten minute sprints just on. | ||
| I'm like, this is shit that people don't want to do. | ||
| I'm like, I don't want to do this. | ||
| I'd rather sport. | ||
| I just hate running. | ||
| He did it with me once, and he was like, alright. | ||
| Do you think that running, I've had a conversation with a friend of mine about this, with Conor McGregor, because Conor doesn't run. | ||
| And he was like, I really feel like every athlete that's doing something that requires real endurance, like boxing or MMA or something like that, should run. | ||
| The act of moving your body, like forcing your body, like your legs propelling your body, and constantly working your lungs builds you the kind of lung stamina and strength that you can't get from anything else. | ||
| So that's a good question, and it's all different because, I mean, me and Cody had a discussion, and I'm like, Cody, look, dude, I know you don't like to do them. | ||
| I want you to do these fucking runs. | ||
| I'll get on a treadmill and do like a 10-minute, or put it on 10 and run for five-minute straights, and then I'll put it on 12 with a little incline and do like 40 seconds on, 20 seconds off. | ||
| And I had him do it with me once, and he's like, bro, he goes, look, I've always... | ||
| I've done this kind of thing. | ||
| I don't really like to run. | ||
| It's not part of my regimen. | ||
| I guarantee you I'm going to be in great shape. | ||
| And he went in there and he fought Dominic Cruz. | ||
| So you can't really argue with that. | ||
| But in my opinion, I think it's a great way to get yourself uncomfortable. | ||
| You can run easier. | ||
| You can run hard. | ||
| To simulate the feeling where your lungs are going to blow up and your head's going to pop and your fucking teeth hurt. | ||
| I like to be able to do that with running. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| But you can get the same thing in a hard go in wrestling or a jiu-jitsu go if you're pushing the pace or a boxing go. | ||
| If you can simulate that type of energy and expenditure. | ||
| But you're forced to do it when you're running really, really fast until you stop. | ||
| Yeah, there's no coasting, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's funny. | ||
| I asked Dan Henderson's good buddy. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| When I first started fighting, I was training with Randy Couture and Dan Henderson. | ||
| They would come out to Sacramento and do little camps and stuff. | ||
| And I asked Dan Henderson's buddy, I'm like, bro, how many days a week does Dan run? | ||
| And this is 2006. And he's like, Dan hasn't ran in 12 years. | ||
| And that motherfucker's a savage, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a savage. | ||
| He is a savage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he's the toughest dude ever. | ||
| My uncle was an old school trainer, so we'd pad work, bag work, run, shadow box, and spar. | ||
| When I was younger, he would get us 50 rounds of work. | ||
| He's like, you get 50 rounds, you're ready for your fight. | ||
| We'd always spar 50 rounds of boxing rounds when we were younger. | ||
| 50 rounds? | ||
| 50 rounds of sparring. | ||
| Before a fight. | ||
| So it could be... | ||
| Okay, like five rounds ten times? | ||
| Is that what you mean? | ||
| Yeah, throughout the four or five week camps until your fight. | ||
| We'd fight every... | ||
| Sometimes we lived in that tri-state area, so I would fight in... | ||
| I had a bunch of books. | ||
| I'd fight in Ohio on Friday, Saturday in Pennsylvania, West Virginia on Sunday. | ||
| So I had three fights, and we can't do that anymore, but we lived in the tri-state, so we always had these regional books. | ||
| You know, you fight. | ||
| I got this book. | ||
| You only have five fights. | ||
| You know, this guy has a hundred. | ||
| So amateur boxing was almost like amateur wrestling. | ||
| They were always, you know, competing like that. | ||
| But he never really forced us to run. | ||
| We always sparred. | ||
| You know, that's when the really fight would happen. | ||
| So I'm just composed in that. | ||
| He always told me growing up, he's like, fighting doesn't make you a better runner. | ||
| Running doesn't make you a better fighter. | ||
| So I just always tell it to Faber. | ||
| Every time he wants you to do those damn runs, he's like, running doesn't make you a better fighter. | ||
| Yeah, there's a bunch of different schools of thought on it. | ||
| Some people think that you have to run long distance to just enable your body to dig deep in those late rounds when you're getting tired that you'll have more endurance that way. | ||
| It doesn't hurt. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But the whole thought process... | ||
| behind one person's theory this is why I can't stand coaches that like think it's the only way you know always learn of course you always want input from other people and you have things at work but like even my my manager back in the day he always used to worry about Chad Mendes his training because like Chad Mendes Lance Palmer those are two guys that have been training since they're five years old on a regimen like their dad's pushing them make him go to this and make him do that | ||
| And so their, like, little vacations they got were, like, the most... | ||
| They needed that. | ||
| They needed to go hunting or go fishing and get the break. | ||
| For me, I was always... | ||
| My dad, he'd drop the trailer off. | ||
| We'd have a... | ||
| Motorhome, he'd drop it off at a pond. | ||
| He'd go to work and we'd fish all day. | ||
| No one was having me wrestle or do anything. | ||
| I didn't start until I was in the eighth grade. | ||
| So I've always been on a trying to catch up kind of deal. | ||
| And like a Chad and Lance are like, get your homework done, you train your butt off, you do a regimen, and then you take your little break. | ||
| And then you take your breaks, you know? | ||
| And it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's just about what you're processing as your method that you believe in. | ||
| As long as you really believe in it, That's the most important thing. | ||
| The belief system is bigger than anything else. | ||
| There's got to be different methods for different fighting styles, too. | ||
| Some people move around more, like Dominic, and some people are more stationary and rely more on power. | ||
| There's got to be different routines that would be more effective. | ||
| It's kind of about finding whatever works best for you, right? | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| For me, I like sprints. | ||
| I'm a very explosive fighter, but also I have endurance, too. | ||
| I did the VO2 testing, and actually I tested as a cross-country runner. | ||
| I hate running on the results. | ||
| But I feel like I do better at sprinting than long distance. | ||
| But it's crazy. | ||
| What you have to be in shape for going to fight for the cage, you have to be great wrestling conditioning, boxing conditioning. | ||
| Those are all different conditionings. | ||
| A boxer comes in and wrestles, he's toast in a minute, if that. | ||
| Sometimes wrestlers, same thing, they go in there and they're boxing there. | ||
| It's just the composure. | ||
| That's what Conor said right after Mayweather. | ||
| Shots were nothing. | ||
| It was just the composure. | ||
| It was the rounds logged in. | ||
| He's just so efficient, too, and he knew that Conor was going to fade because Conor was relying so much on explosiveness and tense. | ||
| And he didn't have enough time to prepare. | ||
| Yeah, not only that, I thought Connor did a good job of staying nice and flowy and everything. | ||
| But here's the truth. | ||
| It's like if I were to take a pretty good high school wrestler, or even a really good high school wrestler, and put him against an Olympic gold medalist, like a high, high level high school wrestler versus an Olympic gold medalist. | ||
| I mean there's going to be a difference but when the fatigue cracks a little bit it starts happening a little bit one guy is going to keep composure completely and the other guy is going to have a little bit of an opening and the other guy will be able to isolate that and I think that's what happened with the fight and I figured that would happen I just didn't think that Connor would do that well the whole fight until it happened he was doing awesome It makes me wonder, like, how would he have done if he had six months to prepare? | ||
| How good would he have done if he got in really good shape? | ||
| He might have been able to make it to the 12th round. | ||
| I think, either way, the more loose Floyd got, the more he was going to start landing shots. | ||
| He's just a far better boxer. | ||
| He's a specialist, you know? | ||
| I don't think it's about getting in shape, necessarily, because Conor had to be in amazing shape. | ||
| He's already a world champion. | ||
| Then he's got this big opportunity. | ||
| That's what I always tell the guys also. | ||
| It doesn't matter what kind of shape you're in. | ||
| Being in good shape only means you can do more until you get tired. | ||
| I think the better shape you're in, he would have kept doing more, doing more, doing more. | ||
| And if he wasn't able to finish him, you know what I mean? | ||
| Because Floyd was letting him do more. | ||
| I mean, he wasn't letting him necessarily, but... | ||
| He was taking rounds off, for sure. | ||
| He was letting Connor blow out some energy. | ||
| So, it's like, the better shape you're in, the more you're going to output until you get tired, but if you're trying to fucking win, you're going to be, you know... | ||
| You're going to be putting it out, putting it out, putting it out. | ||
| I think he would have been able to do more until he got tired, but the fatigue would have set in. | ||
| Either way. | ||
| We had this, in our wrestling room, a board saying, it said, fatigue makes cowards of us all. | ||
| I read that, and I was in the same wrestling room since I was five years old, all the way up until sophomore year, junior year, I was done wrestling. | ||
| But I always read that. | ||
| I was like, man, fatigue. | ||
| I didn't even know what fatigue was, but I knew what a coward was. | ||
| So I was like, I knew it didn't go right. | ||
| So I would literally go so hard. | ||
| I didn't know how to wrestle, really. | ||
| I would just go, go, go, go, and just keep scrambling out of things. | ||
| And that's how I always wrestle. | ||
| and my brother was the same exact way, he was just a grinder, old school wrestler, and I had him pushing me, so it was always that fatigue, fatigue makes cowards of us all. | ||
| So when you get tired, you're always gonna get tired in a fight. | ||
| I didn't know, I've never been to the fourth round I've been in the third once. | ||
| With Cruz, I had all these questions like, how's he going to be? | ||
| Is his composure? | ||
| Can he go, you know, keep that power and speed up for the fifth round? | ||
| Shit, I didn't know. | ||
| I prepared for that and believed. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| It's just believing. | ||
| I was tired, but I was having so much fun in there, you just kind of push through that when you're tired. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| When fatigue sets in, some people can either wilt from it or, you know, propel them to, like, when I get tired, I feel like I bite down more. | ||
| I'm more eyes in there because I'm tired. | ||
| I know that mistakes happen when you're tired. | ||
| So that's when you stay on it more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Got to concentrate more on keeping your technique clean and making sure that you... | ||
| Well, it's an interesting thing when you're fighting a guy like Dominic Crew, too, because he's so awkward. | ||
| Like, you're preparing for someone who moves in such a... | ||
| I mean, Uriah, you knew better than anybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You fought him several times. | ||
| He moves so weird. | ||
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| You know, he does move weird. | ||
| Like, the second time I fought him, I feel like I did a good job of letting him move, and then when he'd land, I'd hit him. | ||
| And so, the one thing I went back and I watched that fight, and I'm like, you know, you're always looking at excuses of why did I lose this fight or not. | ||
| And I think little things count. | ||
| I talked to Cody about this... | ||
| In his fight with Dom was, make sure the eyes are on you when there's no action happening. | ||
| Because Dominic is always doing this weird... | ||
| It's like peacocking. | ||
| He's moving and doing these little movements and weird shit. | ||
| And so when nothing's happening, who are you looking at? | ||
| You're looking at the weirdo. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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He's staying busy. | |
| He's staying busy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So then it's like... | ||
| He is weird, but it's not like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a different kind of weird. | ||
| What was it like doing the Ultimate Fighter opposite TJ? Like, knowing that you guys were eventually going to fight and knowing that you guys used to be teammates. | ||
| Honestly, it wasn't bad. | ||
| Like, for the first, what, two, three weeks, it was fine. | ||
| We were cordial, like, you know... | ||
| It was what it was. | ||
| Until he started going to the media and would say that I'm different on and off camera. | ||
| That was the day. | ||
| Being cordial and cool, like getting through the weigh-ins and doing that whole process, honestly, it's a lot, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm still trying to train and fight, but it was an opportunity. | ||
| I love to do it. | ||
| I love the guys, the team. | ||
| Had my coaches out there, my uncle out in Vegas. | ||
| It was a good time. | ||
| We had a good time with the team. | ||
| And we were fine until, like I said, he would go to the media and like talk shit, say I was different. | ||
| I'm like, about choking one when he was talking shit and he stepped towards me. | ||
| So I was like, so you're saying that, so I cornered him with no cameras. | ||
| Like TJ, I was like, man, what's going on? | ||
| Why are you talking shit in the media saying that I'm different on and off camera? | ||
| Like I wouldn't beat your ass here right now because there's no camera. | ||
| I was like, you think that? | ||
| And he's like, no, I don't think you would whoop my ass right now. | ||
| I grabbed his ass up again by my throat and slammed him again, so then he squared up with me. | ||
| And I was like, alright, we're gonna throw it down. | ||
| Like, cool, just me and him, we'll throw it down, and that's it, no cameras around. | ||
| And maybe that'll subside some of the shit. | ||
| So I was getting pissed he was being with me, you know, right there. | ||
| So how many people were there when you guys almost fought? | ||
| No one. | ||
| We were in his locker room. | ||
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Just you and him. | |
| I was there in his shower. | ||
| I was out in his towel. | ||
| Just got out of the shower. | ||
| I have a picture of it. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| But I was just confused on it. | ||
| I was like, dude, we're cool, cordial with each other. | ||
| And then you go on in the media. | ||
| That's when I started. | ||
| I was like, man, I was just kind of fed up with the whole thing. | ||
| But now it's so long drawn out for the fight. | ||
| I'm just like, if you take all that away, him leaving Team Alpha Male... | ||
| All the variables, and you break it down against fighter versus fighter, this is a fucking fight that I'm thankful for. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm finally getting to fight these opponents that are worthy opponents that I can go out there and showcase my skill against. | ||
| So it wasn't horrible being around the guy until he would go and talk shit on the media, and I was just appalled about it. | ||
| I was like, man, what is going on? | ||
| So how did you guys resolve it when you were alone in the locker room? | ||
| Well, everybody came and broke it up. | ||
| Well, that happened, and then he put his fist up, and I was like, alright, here we go. | ||
| I was just going to throw some fire at him. | ||
| We're going to fight. | ||
| I was like, alright, cool, he's going to fight me. | ||
| And then he put his hands down, and he was like... | ||
| Look how you're acting, bro. | ||
| And I was like, oh, he went from straight to ready to fight and then to that. | ||
| So I was like, whatever. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| I was just like, dude, quit talking shit on the media. | ||
| We're right here. | ||
| You can say it to me. | ||
| I don't know why we don't have a conversation. | ||
| We can talk about it. | ||
| And a couple times we've had off-camera talks with me and him about the whole Joe Daddy Stevenson fight. | ||
| I was like, look, bro. | ||
| I understand you're trying to get your guy back on. | ||
| But Joe should not fight. | ||
| He took so much damage in that fight, and he's fighting in six days. | ||
| I'm 25 years old, and I would not fight in five or six days after I just fought like that. | ||
| He was concussed. | ||
| He was hurt. | ||
| And TJ's like, hey, man, I can't tell him not to fight. | ||
| I'm like, you have to tell him. | ||
| You're his coach. | ||
| You can't call his wife or his coach. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You have to say, dude, I don't want my teammates fighting each other, but, dude, that's going to be bad. | ||
| I said, he's going to get knocked out and be hurt. | ||
| And TJ's like... | ||
| Don't get that in his head, Cody. | ||
| I'm like, Joe. | ||
| And we were doing it in front of Joe. | ||
| I'm like, Joe, look, I love you. | ||
| You're a pioneer. | ||
| You're a legend of the sport. | ||
| You don't need to go out here and get $10,000 for whatever it was they were getting for that fight to go in there and have serious brain damage. | ||
| He's fighting Hyder. | ||
| Hyder has, I think, eight knockouts, vicious knockouts. | ||
| He throws his hands. | ||
| I knew it was a bad matchup. | ||
| That was an ego thing. | ||
| TJ wanted his whole team because he kicked your ass on the team. | ||
| We didn't stylistically pick the best matchups. | ||
| We was in there trying to do what we could with those guys. | ||
| It was tough. | ||
| It's like teaching an old dog new tricks. | ||
| It was hard. | ||
| It was honestly hard. | ||
| It's got to be weird coaching people in a short period of time like that, too. | ||
| These are all crafty veterans, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Guys that have been kicked out of the UFC. Right. | ||
| I didn't do any of my research on how they did outside of the UFC career. | ||
| I remember them in the UFC. I'm like, okay, this guy can fight Eddie Gordon. | ||
| He's massive. | ||
| Let's go with him. | ||
| We just didn't know how they did outside of it. | ||
| But I would just assume that as a coach, if you get anybody and you're working with them for six weeks, you would start thinking, if I had six months, I'd get rid of this. | ||
| When I coached against Dom, we had... | ||
| We had three months. | ||
| Oh, that's right, because you guys did... | ||
| It was a crazy season. | ||
| The only live season. | ||
| What was that like? | ||
| That was a giant chunk of your life. | ||
| That was. | ||
| Vegas, man. | ||
| All these guys, I was staying under wraps, but... | ||
| We had the whole crew out there. | ||
| All my coaches were just the young guys coming up trying to get them exposure and everything. | ||
| So I had TJ and Lance and all the guys that were my coaches. | ||
| They were running amok in Vegas. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| For the Connor season, when I came out, I was ready to leave Vegas. | ||
| I couldn't wait to leave Vegas after that. | ||
| It was just... | ||
| Yeah, same thing. | ||
| Cody is one of my coaches, remember? | ||
| Yeah, it seems to me that Vegas, to live in Vegas, is kind of like living near a nuclear reactor. | ||
| You may be able to do it for a couple days, but after a while, the radiation's going to get you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One wrong decision from a whole change of life. | ||
| It's just too much right there. | ||
| All of a sudden you won't have seen daytime for a couple days. | ||
| My feelings on it is that you're around, maybe it's just me being sensitive, but I think you're around people that make shitty decisions. | ||
| You're around a lot of that in Vegas. | ||
| Because you're around a lot of compulsive gamblers. | ||
| Just the vibe of the city. | ||
| Like, there's great shit in the city. | ||
| There's a lot of successful people. | ||
| Dana and the Fertittas. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that are making great money and doing well in business. | ||
| But then, there's a whole underbelly to the city that's compulsive gamblers. | ||
| There's a shitload of compulsive gamblers. | ||
| And a bunch of other stuff. | ||
| Compulsive all sorts of stuff. | ||
| Man, city of sin. | ||
| Sin City. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| You go to LA, this is mostly talking about people that are trying to get into the entertainment industry or whatever. | ||
| LA is like a social climate. | ||
| If you take the crappy part of the social scene, it's people trying to socially climb. | ||
| Oh, what do you do for work? | ||
| Oh, what do you do? | ||
| What can I get out of this person and try to play the game and have success? | ||
| And Vegas has just sold out. | ||
| Like, alright, I'm going to go make a bunch of fucking money. | ||
| Stripping, this, cocktail, whatever it is. | ||
| Right, selling coke. | ||
| Yeah, whatever the deal is. | ||
| Yeah, whatever it is. | ||
| So it's like, LA, social climb, Vegas, sold out. | ||
| Well, it just doesn't seem like Vegas has a... | ||
| There's a lot of transient people, and there's a lot of people that are there just for the casinos, whereas any other city... | ||
| If you live in Chicago, for instance, it's a town. | ||
| It's a real city. | ||
| People have been there for generation after generation. | ||
| There's a lot of different businesses, a lot of variety to it. | ||
| In Vegas, you got the hub... | ||
| Which is all the casinos. | ||
| And then you got the surrounding areas that are just sort of feeding off of the casinos. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's a weird gig. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Great for short times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The one thing I would say that was cool while you're there... | ||
| Sacramento is not necessarily a destination spot. | ||
| So while I was living there and people knew that we were living there, I would get hit up every couple days with somebody that was coming to Vegas. | ||
| So you get to rehash, see all sorts of people that you would like to see that are popping into Vegas all of a sudden. | ||
| It's like, damn, everybody's hitting you up. | ||
| It's kind of like a little reunion place. | ||
| People go there all the time. | ||
| Now, as far as your new place, what did you do differently when you guys moved to your new spot? | ||
| How did you set it up? | ||
| You had the old spot for a long time, right? | ||
| Dude, you gotta check out the place. | ||
| You'll love it. | ||
| I saw it online. | ||
| It looks amazing. | ||
| So, basically, we just made it bigger and better and tried to cover all the things that we do as mixed martial artists within one roof. | ||
| So, we have CrossFit. | ||
| We have yoga. | ||
| We have TRX. We have conditioning classes that are MMA-based. | ||
| We have introduction to stuff. | ||
| And then we have the MMA side, which is... | ||
| Traditional Muay Thai. | ||
| Our pros work out of there. | ||
| We have our own little locker room for the pros, and we have nice finishes. | ||
| There's a cafe there. | ||
| There's an outdoor area. | ||
| There's bathrooms and showers. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| The other place was just... | ||
| It was 8,500 square feet, which is still pretty big at the time. | ||
| It was a big spot. | ||
| And it was like one shower, one toilet, and it was 13 years of building the team. | ||
| I mean, the place stunk. | ||
| That's a good recipe for staff. | ||
| One shower. | ||
| First time I ever got staff was when I went out to Team Alpha, man. | ||
| It was right before my UFC debut. | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
| Two or three weeks before I had staff. | ||
| I got the call, like, you're going to fight in three weeks. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Did you get on antibiotics immediately? | ||
| Antibiotics, yeah. | ||
| I remember, Faber was like, why are you taking it? | ||
| I'm like, dude, I got staph in my leg. | ||
| I couldn't walk. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| First time I had it. | ||
| Was it from not showering right after you trained? | ||
| I don't know what it was. | ||
| You only have staph all over your body. | ||
| You have it in your nose and everything else. | ||
| I think immune system down and then some sort of scratch or cut. | ||
| Do you guys fuck with defense soap? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That stuff is the shit. | ||
| Guy Seiko, he actually wrestled with. | ||
| Yeah, he's awesome. | ||
| Having this boy. | ||
| Yeah, great guy. | ||
| Yeah, great guy. | ||
| And that product is fucking amazing. | ||
| He has a bunch of different things, like salve for scratches, this ointment, this tea tree oil and eucalyptus and stuff like that. | ||
| That's good stuff, yeah. | ||
| If you could stay on that stuff on a regular, you'll avoid 99% of that shit. | ||
| Getting sleep and eating right and showering after you work out. | ||
| What kind of diet do you want, Cody? | ||
| How do you organize your nutrition? | ||
| Actually, I spoke with Aubrey a couple weeks ago. | ||
| We did, like, obviously on a supplement standpoint from Onnit. | ||
| He gave me a whole protocol pre-weight, you know, for this camp, daytime, nighttime stuff. | ||
| Really, man, I can eat really whatever I want. | ||
| I have a super high... | ||
| It's hard for me, honestly, to gain weight. | ||
| Like, I'm hovering around 147 after practice. | ||
| Because your workout puts so high. | ||
| Yeah, it was so high, and I've never been a big eater. | ||
| I've never liked to be full. | ||
| I don't like that, because... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So I usually do some meal preps. | ||
| I've messed with some meal prep companies. | ||
| My wife's a great cook, so she usually... | ||
| I eat a lot of salmon. | ||
| I love salmon, bison. | ||
| So I keep it out of the... | ||
| And George Lockhart, I work with him, so he writes me up a whole diet of... | ||
| Yeah, George is great. | ||
| Here's my carbs, here's the proteins, and then we get to the fight week, and I'm Literally 12 pounds over and I start doing his diet and water loading and I don't run I don't have to I just do my workouts regularly like I would for you know just to keep sharp for the week lose the weight I mean it's it's the best I feel the greatest you know I used to always cut weight and then like cut a lot of weight and then get IV'd up and feel sluggish like with with with George and the diet that he's giving me on also with the with the Onnit products I've | ||
| For two months I've been on the honor products and I feel so much better with them. | ||
| Joint-wise, I had such stiffness. | ||
| Aubrey gave me a whole thing, those creole oil pills, all that stuff. | ||
| Fish oil is giant, man. | ||
| Fish oil is so important for people and so many people don't take it, but it's just for joint mobility and joint health and just reduction of inflammation. | ||
| Also, it's fuel for your brain. | ||
| It's great for building your muscles. | ||
| Fish oil is just one of the primary supplements that I think people should take. | ||
| My mom used to have us take spoons of that, not the pills. | ||
| She would actually have fish oil in a jar. | ||
| Yeah, I have that stuff. | ||
| I get it at Carlson's. | ||
| I get it in a jar, take tablespoons of it. | ||
| But they have it, they put like lemon flavor in it and different things. | ||
| But, you know, it always tastes like shit. | ||
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| Like shit with lemon. | ||
| Anything that's good for you tastes like shit. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| No, I mean meat tastes good. | ||
| Yeah, meat's good. | ||
| So you're just essentially just eating healthy. | ||
| You know, you don't have like any specific diet you follow. | ||
| No, I mean, I stick to the lean stuff. | ||
| Sushi, salmon, I always do that. | ||
| We have a bunch of good little healthy spots around town, too. | ||
| Actually, I'll send you out some juice. | ||
| Liquidology juice. | ||
| It's fresh juice. | ||
| We have two spots that are right by the gym that have super healthy foods go there. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a health bar. | ||
| So you guys have almost like a whole fitness location there. | ||
| It's not just a gym. | ||
| How many members do you have now? | ||
| We're like 1,400 members. | ||
| What's the name of the place again? | ||
| Uriah Faber's Ultimate Fitness. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's what you're calling it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I know you were thinking about doing something with the UFC gym at one point in time, right? | ||
| We have one. | ||
| We have one out there. | ||
| Oh, you have one of those too? | ||
| About 35 minutes away. | ||
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| That does well. | ||
| That's in Rockland, which is about 35 minutes away. | ||
| And I've got a partner there who is a gym guy. | ||
| He has crunch gyms and he's... | ||
| In tight with Mastroff and the guys at UFC gym. | ||
| And so he primarily runs that. | ||
| And there's no contact in that place. | ||
| You know, you can't do sparring and things like that. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| No. | ||
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How weird is that? | |
| Any of the UFC gyms. | ||
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What? | |
| So when they have, like, kickboxing classes... | ||
| Oh, so you can strangle each other. | ||
| You can't kick or punch. | ||
| So when they have, like, kickboxing classes, do they tap each other at least? | ||
| No. | ||
| They do bag work and... | ||
| No drills? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You're not going to learn if you don't do something. | ||
| They do some jobs. | ||
| They don't have one person hold the mitts and one person hold... | ||
| They don't? | ||
| You can do privates and stuff like that. | ||
| Is it just like a liability thing? | ||
| I would imagine so. | ||
| Yeah, they're probably worried. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, at least they can do jiu-jitsu. | ||
| They do jiu-jitsu, and you're learning great technique. | ||
| It's a great idea, too, to have a gym that's, like, based around the UFC, where people or fans can go and learn that kind of stuff and get a great workout. | ||
| Did you see what this shit Bob Arum said today? | ||
| He said, uh, we have a boxing as an enemy, and it's the UFC. The UFC is the enemy of boxing. | ||
| He's a stupid old dummy. | ||
| Fuck Bob Arum. | ||
| He's just such a dummy. | ||
| You just got 6.5 million pay-per-view buys from Mayweather vs. | ||
| McGregor in a boxing match. | ||
| So you tell me how the UFC's the enemy. | ||
| They just fucking helped you out, dude. | ||
| Made boxing cool again. | ||
| Definitely, I guarantee you, it bumped up Canelo Alvarez in Triple G. Oh, absolutely. | ||
| We just watched the 24-7. | ||
| I'm pumped for that fight. | ||
| Who are you taking? | ||
| Boy, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Look, Gennady Golovkin is a motherfucker, dude. | ||
| But Canelo Alves gets better all the time. | ||
| He's a younger guy. | ||
| He looked fucking sensational against Amir Khan. | ||
| He's looked sensational against everybody except Floyd. | ||
| Floyd got him to drain himself. | ||
| Got him to go all the way down to 150. Or 152 or something like that. | ||
| 152, right? | ||
| Never cut down that far? | ||
| Yeah, he cut down way low and he just looks sluggish and Floyd is the best boxer pretty much ever. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| Boxed him up. | ||
| Game plan, stuck to the game plan. | ||
| Yeah, and just looked beautiful. | ||
| Dude, Triple G's interviews are hilarious. | ||
| I mean, he's like traditional Russian. | ||
| Well, I think, you know, it sounds like exactly how you... | ||
| Max! | ||
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Max! | |
| I'm here for a big drama show! | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Max, of course! | ||
| I think it will be a good fight! | ||
| Good fight for the fans! | ||
| That's what I'm here for. | ||
| Muchos gracias, my friends. | ||
| Mexicans love Triple G. Oh, man. | ||
| He fights like fucking Julio Cesar Chavez, man. | ||
| He's a savage. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| Body punching, ripping shots to the body. | ||
| Who do you think is going to get it, Cody? | ||
| Man, I think, honestly, Canelo. | ||
| I don't know, I just... | ||
| I think Canelo... | ||
| Triple G's a beast. | ||
| I don't know, I think... | ||
| But you like Canelo. | ||
| Why do you like Canelo in this? | ||
| I just like his pressure, his body punches, how he flows. | ||
| He throws a lot of hooks. | ||
| I'm a big hook guy. | ||
| Mike Tyson and I used to watch all Mike's stuff, hooks, and Canelo does too. | ||
| He throws some creative stuff too. | ||
| He does. | ||
| I did that. | ||
| I started doing a move off of watching Canelo. | ||
| He throws like a fake hook to an uppercut. | ||
| So it's like this and it goes like that because the guy will cover here and it comes right up the middle. | ||
| I mean mine didn't look as good as his. | ||
| I did a bunch against Scotty Jorgensen when I fought and it looked like I was just winding my arm up like this. | ||
| But it's like... | ||
| He has a bunch of little tricky, subtle things that he does. | ||
| I like Canelo too. | ||
| He also has ring generalship. | ||
| That's huge for me. | ||
| You can knock people out fast or have good combos, but the way that you take the octagon or the ring and stock them and then impose your will on them, his presence in there, he knows where he's at all the time. | ||
| Yeah, what's interesting to me about this fight is this is the first time that he's fought a guy who's world-class, that is a brutal power puncher like him, who's bigger than him, who's going to come towards him. | ||
| You know, whereas he fought Floyd. | ||
| Floyd was a smaller guy, but just way craftier and slicker with his style. | ||
| And, you know, it was an interesting fight, but ultimately it wasn't like the most exciting fight because Floyd just kind of outboxed him. | ||
| I think this is going to be a bang-em-up fight. | ||
| I think they're going to come towards each other and it's going to get crazy. | ||
| For real, this is like the highest stakes fight in boxing because you have two murderous punchers in their prime. | ||
| Gennady Golovkin undefeated. | ||
| The only person Canelo lost to is Floyd. | ||
| This is only lost? | ||
| Yeah, this is only lost. | ||
| And it's a decision. | ||
| He was 15 professionally. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| Phenomenal fight. | ||
| I mean, just such a good fight. | ||
| I cannot wait for this fight. | ||
| I'm so amped up. | ||
| That's when Oscar tweeted about, you know, he was all butthurt about it. | ||
| I was like, dude, we're still going to watch Eugene. | ||
| This is why they're all fools. | ||
| If Oscar just said, this is great for boxing, this is great for everybody, then everybody would have been fine. | ||
| Instead, these guys create enemies. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And say, this is a disgrace, this is a fixed fight. | ||
| Power in numbers. | ||
| They're saying, Floyd, fix the fight. | ||
| Are they still saying that? | ||
| Oscar's saying some crazy shit. | ||
| Oscar's losing his mind. | ||
| How about Dana calling him out? | ||
| Dana's like, is he doing blow and cross-dressing? | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| Dana's a savage. | ||
| He's a savage, bro. | ||
| He gives zero fucks. | ||
| He'll comment on some of my picks about, like, if I post about him or something like that, he just kills people. | ||
| He does not give a fuck. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| That's what happens when you have a half a billion dollars. | ||
| Yeah, I guess so. | ||
| You know, give a fuck. | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| Well, he didn't give a fuck in the beginning, which is why he was perfect for the UFC. Oh, I sent him a picture. | ||
| Right after he did the whole deal where they sold and everything, he was on ESPN. He was on some show, and he was just slouched over, looked like a pile of crap. | ||
| And I took a picture of it, and I sent it to him. | ||
| I said, bro, why don't you sit like you have $400 million in the bank, or at least invest in some fucking fitness shit or something. | ||
| And I sent him a picture just all slumped over like this. | ||
| I think he's super stressed. | ||
| I think he's better now. | ||
| I think that time was like a crazy-ass time. | ||
| Well, could you imagine you're about to get involved in a $4 billion deal? | ||
| And then how about afterwards, all this shit starts falling apart. | ||
| Ronda gets murked. | ||
| Conor decides to go to boxing. | ||
| You know, the sport's falling off in a lot of the pay-per-view buys. | ||
| Jon Jones tests positive again. | ||
| Like, ah! | ||
| What's up with that, man? | ||
| I mean, he was on his way to being a next gigantic superstar, right? | ||
| I mean, if you take away his time off, right? | ||
| The time off where you get busted. | ||
| Before, you had to take a whole year off because of the dick pills. | ||
| All this different stuff. | ||
| The time off from the car accident. | ||
| Take all that time off, and John keeps winning, and you got a goddamn gigantic superstar. | ||
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Huge superstar. | |
| The likes of, like, anybody that's ever been in the UFC. Maybe even right up there with Conor. | ||
| I mean, you don't know. | ||
| Even, I mean, all the negative stuff that's happened to Jon Jones, people are still booing DC and cheering him. | ||
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Yes, crazy. | |
| I mean, William Morris has some great PR going behind him. | ||
| I don't think it's that. | ||
| I don't think it's that at all. | ||
| I don't think they have the brain. | ||
| I don't think anybody alive has the brains to organize public response. | ||
| I think public people tweet to people. | ||
| They love John because what John is, first of all, he's a ruthless killer inside the octagon, and then he fucks up, but he's still a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Like, he rises to the occasion. | ||
| But there was a time where he was getting booed and everything, and then he took the time off, and then by the time he came back, people were back on his side. | ||
| It's like, When was he getting booed? | ||
| He was getting booed before he got suspended the time before. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| When he tested positive for Coke? | ||
| I can't remember, man. | ||
| I don't remember him getting booed. | ||
| But if he was, it was nothing like DC. DC wins fights and gets booed. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You know, I mean, he beats Rumble, he gets booed. | ||
| People get mad at him. | ||
| They got mad at him when he beat Rumble, remember? | ||
| They were booing him. | ||
| Like, what are you booing? | ||
| The guy just fucking choked out Rumble Johnson. | ||
| Like, how are you booing for the second time? | ||
| How are you booing? | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| But you can't, the public... | ||
| Yeah, you can't control that. | ||
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They're fickle. | |
| They just decide who they like. | ||
| And it's all hate. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They just decide who they love and they decide who they hate. | ||
| I'll tell you what though, John's speech after he beat DC was beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, it was great. | ||
| It was. | ||
| It was great, but it was followed up by... | ||
| A steroid test. | ||
| That's why it's so sad. | ||
| I mean, look, I'm hoping, just like everybody else, that there's some sort of a fuck-up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then we figure out something happened, something was wrong. | ||
| Well, I haven't really followed it too much, so I don't really know the details. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Well, he tested positive for something that only shows up in urine tests. | ||
| And so they did him a urine test after the weigh-ins. | ||
| He tested positive for this stuff. | ||
| And then they did a blood test. | ||
| And, you know, his camp is saying, oh, it's not in the blood test. | ||
| Well, they don't test for it in the blood test. | ||
| That's why they do a urine test and a blood test. | ||
| It's two different tests. | ||
| And it's like D-ball, like the main... | ||
| T-ball. | ||
| T-ball or something like that. | ||
| It's a weird substance that not a lot of people take. | ||
| So, um, apparently Chael Sonnen was talking about it, that if he's taken that, like, this is some real old-school steroid. | ||
| It's like a short-acting, short, short, uh, half-life steroid. | ||
| Oh, that chips me out, man. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| I've... | ||
| I just don't think, I mean, what are you proving? | ||
| That's my whole thing. | ||
| Well, he must have felt like he needed some sort of an edge, if he took it. | ||
| If he took it, or, or, the real problem is, or, was he taking stuff the whole time? | ||
| Did he get involved with those power lifter dudes and start taking shit? | ||
| Because remember, he got fucking super jacked. | ||
| Oh, dude, he was massive. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he looked like he was going to heavyweight. | ||
| He looked huge! | ||
| I mean, I don't want to speculate at all, really. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But you were involved in the sport in the early days when there was no testing. | ||
| They'd just look at you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, when you were first fighting King of the Cage, was there any drug testing? | ||
| No. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| There wasn't any type of anything. | ||
| I mean, it was illegal in California. | ||
| So the only reason we were fighting on Indian reservations is because everything was illegal. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| It is so fucking crazy. | ||
| They let Native Americans do whatever the fuck they want. | ||
| Yeah, because we screwed them so bad. | ||
| But it's not we. | ||
| I mean, it's happened so many generations ago. | ||
| It's kind of weird that it's still around. | ||
| They have like this sort of... | ||
| They have a nation inside a nation. | ||
| It's a very odd little situation. | ||
| Over in the U.S., we talk about the Holocaust and what happened over there. | ||
| And over in, like, Germany, they talk about what we did at the Indians. | ||
| Well, you know what we did to the Indian? | ||
| Well, it wasn't we. | ||
| My parents were here. | ||
| When it comes to genocide, you know what the biggest genocide was? | ||
| Disease. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 90% of them were killed by smallpox and all sorts of bugs that they just had no resistance from. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| When they first met the Europeans. | ||
| And it had nothing to do with a planned attack on them. | ||
| People were just dying off like crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that's what happened. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Terrific. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, but thank God they have casinos. | ||
| So I've got a bunch of buddies that are native, and so they have different things. | ||
| In one tribe, you had things you could choose, and one group up on the northern coast took their fishing rights. | ||
| So they can fish with nets and put bombs in the water, but they didn't take the casino rights. | ||
| Ooh, they fucked. | ||
| They fucked up. | ||
| They did fuck up. | ||
| Buy all the fish you want with that casino money. | ||
| They sling that smoked salmon. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It is good. | ||
| But it's not like the casino money. | ||
| You can buy a lot of smoked salmon. | ||
| That fox wins cash. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, there's a place in Alberta where I've been hunting up there and the natives, they call them First Nation people up there, they're allowed to basically hunt any way they want. | ||
| They use spotlights and shoot animals at night. | ||
| They shoot as many as they want. | ||
| Part of their rights, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's part of the deal. | ||
| They didn't get casinos. | ||
| Yeah, they didn't get casinos. | ||
| Spotlighting them. | ||
| They got free moose. | ||
| Yeah, free moose. | ||
| They're just allowed to use all sorts of, you know, what other people would think of as unethical techniques. | ||
| Do you have any hunting trips coming up? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm going to Utah soon. | ||
| Elk hunt a couple weeks. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| You eat mostly... | ||
| I know Chad does that, but tries to eat mostly food that he's killed himself. | ||
| Yeah, as much as I can. | ||
| 99% of the food I eat is wild game, other than vegetables. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, if you shoot an elk, like either of those elk heads that I had out back, that's 400 pounds of meat. | ||
| I give a lot of it to my friends who don't hunt, you know, just like elk. | ||
| But that's enough meat for a year. | ||
| And then I usually shoot a deer or two a year. | ||
| Yeah, that's what trips me out about people that are so against hunting. | ||
| I mean, I'm not a big hunter, but, like, the things that happen, like, on the farms where they're, like, you know, have animals just cage in and try to feed them, get them fat. | ||
| I mean, that's some nasty stuff. | ||
| And this is way more humane and a healthier way to eat, right? | ||
| It's definitely a healthier way to eat, and it's definitely way more humane. | ||
| But people love to point the finger. | ||
| 97% of the people in this country eat meat. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Either that or they're pescatarian or they eat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, there's maybe 3% of the people in this country that are vegans. | ||
| And that's a small number. | ||
| But, you know, they get very vocal about it. | ||
| And the best way for them to, like, they can find a person. | ||
| Like, say, if you hunt and you hold a picture of a deer that you shot, they found your you. | ||
| So you're an individual. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whereas if you have a steak, that steak was raised by a rancher. | ||
| It's on a ranch. | ||
| Who's the guy who shot it? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But you got it at a supermarket. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| There's too many people down the line. | ||
| You can't point to one person. | ||
| But if I see Uriah Fabro holding up a duck that he shot, well, that's you. | ||
| You killed that duck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get the vegan cat lady after you again. | ||
| It's true. | ||
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That's true. | |
| Isn't it hilarious? | ||
| That's a true bit, man. | ||
| That's a true bit. | ||
| It's a community of people that think it's a good idea to feed their cat vegan food. | ||
| Yeah, there's a whole move to feed cats vegan food, and the cats, they go blind and have heart attacks and shit. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Yeah, cats are supposed to eat something called taurine that only exists in animal food, like in animal protein. | ||
| Cats are what's called an obligate carnivore, which means they can't eat anything else. | ||
| Dude, that's a chick. | ||
| Dogs can eat carrots and a bunch of other shit. | ||
| Dogs eat things. | ||
| Dogs can eat some grains and potatoes and stuff like that. | ||
| That's fine for them. | ||
| They mostly eat meat. | ||
| Dogs are mostly carnivores. | ||
| But they can mix their diet up a little bit and still be okay. | ||
| Not cats. | ||
| You fucking start feeding cats beets and vegetables and shit like that, they die young. | ||
| So what's the bit? | ||
| This chick came after you? | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| I don't want to do the bit because it's on my next Netflix special. | ||
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Oh, it's a bit. | |
| It's an actual bit. | ||
| But it's like someone got mad at me because I posted a picture of some meat on Instagram. | ||
| It's based on a total true story. | ||
| And it was one of the vegan cat ladies? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This fucking bitch is so out of my mind. | ||
| I don't want to ruin it for you. | ||
| Yeah, I don't. | ||
| But it's just... | ||
| There's the community of people that that feed their cats vegan food. | ||
| They are fucking completely there. | ||
| They're like next level crazy Like if you thought vegans are crazy, they're like, well, we're taking this shit to the next level It's like there's levels to everything, you know like this like you were talking about your gym There's guys are just tough guys. | ||
| They don't really want to fight these guys who we want to fight and they're fighting the amateurs and then there's Cody Garbrandt, you know She's the Cody Garbrandt of vegan activists vegan activists Yeah. | ||
| Next level crazy. | ||
| That was a great one. | ||
| Yeah, I went to his, he was in Sac, what, a month or so ago? | ||
| Yeah, not even. | ||
| Yeah, I was out of town, man. | ||
| I would have liked to have come. | ||
| Oh, it was great. | ||
| That was the first, I went live, you know, sat down. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| I was laughing my ass off. | ||
| Sacramento's fun, man. | ||
| They came out. | ||
| It was a good time. | ||
| I always loved performing there. | ||
| Ever since back in the little comedy club there, the Punchline Sacramento. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's a great spot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a great little spot. | ||
| I went up there. | ||
| Craig Robinson was in town. | ||
| He's my buddy. | ||
| Oh, he's a good dude. | ||
| And he pulled me up on stage to have me do something. | ||
| I had shitted up the place pretty bad. | ||
| It's not easy. | ||
| Does Craig bring his music up there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it saved me a little bit because he's like, brought me, all right, I wouldn't bring my boy up, blah, blah. | ||
| And I got up there on stage and then... | ||
| And so I'm like, my manager kind of like gave me a heads up like, oh, Craig might pull you up there. | ||
| So I had like, all right, well, I just told the story of the chick that knocked on my door and came and shit all over my bathroom. | ||
| Oh, that story? | ||
| I did that, but I had Craig do sound effects for it. | ||
| So I was like, hey, man, I'll do this, but you got to give me sound effects. | ||
| He was on his thing like, I'm like, then she took a massive shit. | ||
| And then he's like, you know, doing it on the keyboard. | ||
| This was like New Year's, right? | ||
| Someone broke in your house? | ||
| It was just a Saturday night. | ||
| Oh, I thought it was on New Year's or something. | ||
| I'm more known for this lady shitting in my bedroom or my bathroom than fucking most things I've done in my life for myself. | ||
| Well, you told the story somewhere. | ||
| I saw it online. | ||
| I took a video of it on Snapchat and I'm like, dude, I don't know what happened. | ||
| Is this still up? | ||
| Yeah, it's probably up. | ||
| Yeah, well, TMZ took it. | ||
| TMZ did it and did a story on it, and they did an interview, and they showed my whole thing. | ||
| And I actually, like, got a picture of the chick, opened the door, and there's, like, a canoe of shit between her legs, and she's sitting in vomit and shit half in the toilet, half on the floor. | ||
| And my brand new house, I just spent a whole year building it, me and my dad, and she just crushed it. | ||
| How did she get in your house? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| What's the story? | ||
| I opened the door like an idiot. | ||
| Okay, so I'm sitting there with my buddy Virgil and his girlfriend. | ||
| It's like 1 o'clock on a Saturday. | ||
| We're just kicking it BS. 1 a.m.? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a side piece. | ||
| He doesn't put that in there. | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| So then I hear a little knock. | ||
| I thought, and I'm like, did someone knock on the door? | ||
| And then it goes away, and I hear again, like, a knock. | ||
| I'm like, I think somebody's knocking. | ||
| So I go in, and literally, I open the door like this, and I got this plump, like, 24-year-old fucking drunk-as-shit woman, like, leaning against the door, like, looking at me. | ||
| And I open the door, and she, like, just walks in. | ||
| And I'm like, can I help you? | ||
| And she's got a little boiler. | ||
| Is that her in the background? | ||
| No, that's my buddy Virgil's ex-girlfriend. | ||
| Oh, dude, this is great. | ||
| Yeah, this is kind of strange. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| So she just walks in your house and then goes in the bathroom? | ||
| She walks in my house and I'm like, can I help you? | ||
| That's the most foul thing I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| Ready? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is she in there still? | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| So she was passed out in shit and piss in your bathroom? | ||
| So I open the door and she stumbles in like all chubby and like a boiler hanging out. | ||
| There's fucking ambulance, fire truck, SWAT team to come get this chick out of my toilet. | ||
| And so she walks in and walks past. | ||
| I'm like, can I help you? | ||
| And she just keeps on walking. | ||
| I'm like, excuse me. | ||
| And she like walks to the end of my house and just locks herself in the bathroom. | ||
| Is that her right there? | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| She's sitting on the stoop. | ||
| This is after she wiped up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Well, she didn't wipe up. | ||
| I don't know what they did. | ||
| I had it. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| That's the crime scene. | ||
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That's great. | |
| I had it. | ||
| Totally missed it twice. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| She missed everything. | ||
| She missed everything. | ||
| It's weird that she knew exactly where that bathroom was at. | ||
| How did she know where that bathroom was? | ||
| I'm just... | ||
| Did you just say it? | ||
| That bathroom was not there. | ||
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Look it. | |
| The heroes. | ||
| Had she ever been over your house for a party or something? | ||
| No! | ||
| So she just was in the neighborhood. | ||
| So I live on the corner, and there's maybe like... | ||
| Here comes the truth. | ||
| There's a bar called... | ||
| Called Cheaters. | ||
| I think she was drunk from that, walking and had it really take a shit. | ||
| There's a bar called Cheaters? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it kind of like the Ashley Madison of bars? | ||
| I haven't really been in there. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
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I wouldn't go there either, bro. | |
| So anyways... | ||
| That'd be a bar where, you know, if you go to that bar, like, you know what's going on. | ||
| Oh, you're a gangster if you're going there. | ||
| I mean, you gotta see, it's an old-ass, like, bar in East Sac, which is, like, the nice little neighborhood, and it's like a shit-dive bar, so I don't know what it's all about. | ||
| Maybe the dude's name is Cheater. | ||
| It's probably Cheater. | ||
| It's Cheater's bar, man. | ||
| It ain't about cheating here. | ||
| It's my name. | ||
| My name's Cheater. | ||
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Is that it right there? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, cheaters. | ||
| It is cheaters. | ||
| Yeah, maybe it's cheaters. | ||
| That's on 34th and Folsom. | ||
| Is there an apostrophe after the R? No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Cheaters. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Cheaters. | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| Mmm, it looks angry. | ||
| We're gonna go to fuck up. | ||
| So this is right down the street from your house. | ||
| That bathroom was not there before I got the house. | ||
| I added that on, poured a slab and built back and everything else. | ||
| And so, I don't know how the hell she... | ||
| She dead-ended in the end of the house and just took a left. | ||
| So she just got lucky. | ||
| Found the bathroom, shit all over the place. | ||
| Did you ever contact her afterwards? | ||
| Fuck no. | ||
| Did she ever contact you and say, hey, I'm sorry I shit all over your house? | ||
| She's gotta know that it was on TMZ and all these different websites. | ||
| You would think she would reach out. | ||
| He cut that one off. | ||
| If that girl gets into a 12-step program, you will be one of the first people she apologizes to. | ||
| She's gonna say, I gotta make it right with all the people that are wrong in the past. | ||
| Dude, I wonder if she's someone in the neighborhood I don't know, but the truth is, like, she went in that bathroom, like, she was just drawn, like, how should she have known? | ||
| If you know my house... | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I always ask him, like, dude, it was just too much. | ||
| Remember I had this guy, I had this Mexican guy that was working for me, and he had, like, an issue. | ||
| He would do the lacquer on all my cabinets and everything, and so he took, like... | ||
| An extra month, and he would get in there, and I'd go into the house when it was being built, and he'd be passed out on the floor. | ||
| He'd just get high as fuck and pass out. | ||
| My theory was, maybe he, when he would stay the night at the house under construction, maybe he was having this chubby chick come over or something. | ||
| It's messed up, man. | ||
| Passing off to a Mexican. | ||
| That's weird, bro. | ||
| It's just not how you're doing that. | ||
| Let's change the subject. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's move on from the phantom shitter. | ||
| You guys, like Team Alpha Male in Sacramento, you guys are like one of the real super camps in the world. | ||
| Like there's like a handful of super camps in this country, right? | ||
| There's like ATT, you know, there's Duke Rufus, there's Farasa Hobbies camp, TriStar, AKA. There's a bunch of super camps. | ||
| Do you try to pay attention to how other guys are running their stuff and try to figure out what they're incorporating as far as like strength and conditioning, you know, rehab places? | ||
| Like physical therapy, things along those lines? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| You know, we have a reputation for whenever we go somewhere, going into the gyms and trying to get it rolling, you know, testing yourself against other people, like kind of an open-door policy at our place, too. | ||
| Like if somebody wants to come in, they can come in and check it out. | ||
| So we've gotten a lot of, throughout the years, a lot of feedback and done our own stuff, but always trying to learn, but not necessarily like... | ||
| We kind of have our own recipe. | ||
| We have our things that work. | ||
| It's about a regiment and a lifestyle. | ||
| It's like set programs throughout the day and you can kind of makeshift your own depending on what your coaches think you need to do or what you feel they need to do. | ||
| Because there's two or three practices you could hit a day if you wanted to. | ||
| And then there's individual workouts and they go – some guys do the cryotherapy and then They've been doing that suction therapy and they've been doing that... | ||
| Do you believe in that? | ||
| That cup stuff? | ||
| Cupping? | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| I'm like old school. | ||
| Like I don't really believe in... | ||
| I'm not like looking for all these little secret things to do. | ||
| So I've never done it. | ||
| But you think those things help a little... | ||
| Like some things gotta help a little. | ||
| Like cryo helps. | ||
| Do you do that at all? | ||
| I've done it a couple times. | ||
| But it's not a thing that you do on a regular basis? | ||
| The thing I'm adamant about that I think is good, which I would have liked to do more of throughout my career, is the hyperbaric chambers. | ||
| Yeah, you used that after the Aldo fight, right, with your leg? | ||
| After the Aldo fight, after the Mike Brown fight. | ||
| You broke your hand? | ||
| I broke my hand and had surgery. | ||
| Like, I mean, I would use that just as a regular bit. | ||
| And then TJ Dillashaw actually got one and had it at his house in his garage. | ||
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Really? | |
| Like, in Sacramento. | ||
| And he had, like, got certified. | ||
| Him and his wife got certified to do it. | ||
| And he would just, like, chill in that thing all the time. | ||
| So what does the hyperbaric chamber do? | ||
| It's, like, it's a high-oxygen-rich environment, right? | ||
| Yeah, so it's a high-oxygen-rich environment. | ||
| So it basically, like, it can, like, it does, like, the same thing that red blood cells would do, like, transport things. | ||
| To your body faster and help you heal faster. | ||
| So there's high altitude, which helps you get acclimated and make more blood cells yourself. | ||
| And this is just helping pass things through. | ||
| It's like a hyper-oxygenated environment. | ||
| And what do you feel like it did for you? | ||
| It healed me faster. | ||
| I've never been a big strength and conditioning guy, even in wrestling in college, because I was always cutting weight. | ||
| So I felt like... | ||
| Like, you know, I've always been really strong for my size. | ||
| It wasn't one of my things that I needed to work on necessarily. | ||
| I was working on technique or working on this or fluidity or whatever. | ||
| So I started, when I broke my hands, I started doing a heavy lifting regimen. | ||
| I used to not like to do lifts, like squats and stuff like that because I would get so sore I couldn't do all the shit I liked to do, like wrestle and run and Things like that. | ||
| So I was going to heal my hand while I was doing these heavy workouts and my trainer kept asking me like, like, am I sore? | ||
| And I was like, no, I'm not sore. | ||
| We finally put it together because of the hyperbaric chamber. | ||
| Like I was like hyper healing. | ||
| It was like, like I would do a hard, hard workout and never get sore because I would go into the oxygen chamber. | ||
| My schedule just worked out. | ||
| I was going in there quick. | ||
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Huh? | |
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is there any downside to doing it? | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| The downside is it's expensive, and that's the same reason why insurance didn't pass it to be insured. | ||
| How much is a session? | ||
| It could be as much as $200. | ||
| $200 I think a session, laying there for an hour. | ||
| And how many sessions were you doing? | ||
| I would get it to where I was doing, you know, like four sessions a week. | ||
| Damn, and insurance wasn't paying for this? | ||
| No, UFC would pay for it. | ||
| Ah, that's nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, is this something they have set up at the new UFC Performance Center? | ||
| I think they have all that stuff there. | ||
| I know the underground treadmills, the high-altitude building. | ||
| I've used their PT a couple times. | ||
| We have a very fortunate with Russ back in Sacramento, El Dorado Hills, that he does all that. | ||
| I use the hyperbaric chamber as well. | ||
| I had the whole last year. | ||
| You know when sometimes you kick someone wrong and your ankle's messed up for two, three days? | ||
| I would go in there that day and literally put weight on it and move around and be fine. | ||
| What they use it for is brain trauma. | ||
| It helps heal your brain. | ||
| It's the same thing that they do for the bends when somebody goes and does deep sea. | ||
| If they're deep sea diving, they have to put them in a hyperbaric chamber to acclimate them to heal them from coming up too fast. | ||
| There's a real science behind it. | ||
| Yeah, no, I've heard about people using it for breaks, like bone breaks and having some really quick recovery. | ||
| I've just never experienced it. | ||
| You should do it. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine it'd be just a good thing to do all the time, but I wonder if there's any negative effects. | ||
| I don't think there is. | ||
| I mean, you know, they're doing it for autistic kids, for people with Lyme's disease. | ||
| Lyme disease is a big one, man. | ||
| Jesus, that stuff's scary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's so many fucking people that have that and don't even know. | ||
| They're just tired all the time and broken down. | ||
| They don't understand that their immune system is devastated by ticks. | ||
| Yeah, that does. | ||
| There's a thing called a Rocky Mountain tick. | ||
| Rocky Mountain flea or something like that. | ||
| I think it's Rocky Mountain tick. | ||
| But there's a... | ||
| Oh, no, that's not it. | ||
| It's the Lone Star tick. | ||
| There's a disease that people are getting that makes you allergic to red meat. | ||
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Huh. | |
| And they're getting it from ticks. | ||
| That's a trick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You take a tick bite, and you don't realize anything even happened, and you go to eat meat, like eat a cheeseburger or something, you get really sick. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Your immune system gets devastated. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| The Lone Star Tick injects alpha-gal into the bloodstream, and then the immune system releases immunoglobin E antibodies to fight this foreign sugar. | ||
| After this reaction, the future intake of mammal meat with the same alpha-gal will result in an allergy reaction. | ||
| Because meat has, it's like alpha galactose. | ||
| They're saying alpha gal as short, but I forget what it actually is. | ||
| I forgot the actual... | ||
| See, does it say there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Galactose Alpha 1-3 Galactose. | ||
| So that's the shit that is in me. | ||
| You're like Clifford Clavin, bro. | ||
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Diverse. | |
| You know some shit, bro. | ||
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If you do a podcast every day, three hours, you gotta learn something. | |
| He's been around. | ||
| He's done some shit. | ||
| But that's fucked up, right? | ||
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That is fucked up. | |
| Imagine if Chad Mendes got that. | ||
| Oh, he'd be upset, man. | ||
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Devastated. | |
| Just gotta make sure you got that anti-tick stuff on you. | ||
| He would adjust. | ||
| He would adjust. | ||
| Can't see Chad as a vegan. | ||
| Well, you can eat fish. | ||
| It's mammal protein. | ||
| You start eating crocodiles, hunt crocodiles only. | ||
| Yeah, so the hyperbaric chamber is a good one. | ||
| I've been doing the salt. | ||
| What's the thing? | ||
| Oh, you've been doing float therapy? | ||
| Yeah, you told me to do that a long time ago. | ||
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That's awesome. | |
| And they finally got one right next to our – I own a little Vibe Health bar. | ||
| In Sacramento, liquidology, the juice and fiber. | ||
| And right next door, they have the float center. | ||
| So I've done that. | ||
| It's amazing, isn't it? | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| I mean, the only problem is I have to have a quiet mind and able to get the most out of it. | ||
| Like, if I'm stressing about something and I go in there, I just, like... | ||
| I mean, I end up, like, just thinking the whole time, whatever. | ||
| I have to be at the right place to go in there, I think. | ||
| Yeah, maybe it's a personality thing. | ||
| Like, do you... | ||
| I mean, I like it when I can relax, but, like, if I have, like, a lot going on in my mind, I can't just shut it down, and then I'm stuck in this, like, thing, just thinking, and I'm like, I gotta get out of here and go take care of this, take care of that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But when I'm able to chill, I love it, and I know Cody uses it a lot. | ||
| I use it a lot. | ||
| I... One time I had a close skull, like an astral projection. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I was explaining to the guy that owned it at the time, because I quit going. | ||
| One time it happened, I felt like Grim Reaper came over top of me, no shit, and was trying to push me down and drown me, but I was sleeping in a deep trance. | ||
| My body would vibrate, and I would come back to wake. | ||
| I was such a deep trance, I'd come back up and I'd finally calm myself back down. | ||
| Relax and would drift off into the float and then BOOM would come like just but the whole time I could feel the hot coils on my back with my face you know because it's still you know you're just above waters around your whole head Three times I finally got up and I was like... | ||
| So you really felt like something was trying to drown you? | ||
| I don't know what I was going on. | ||
| Anxiety or something, right? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You could have some crazy visions in there. | ||
| Last time I was in there, I just kept the... | ||
| It has a blue light in there and I got the music going and I was just spinning and bouncing off the... | ||
| I was just staying busy. | ||
| I couldn't chill. | ||
| I'm not good at relaxing these days. | ||
| I would think you'd be better at relaxing now, now that you're tired from fighting. | ||
| Oh, no way, man. | ||
| No way. | ||
| I'll have to, like, if jiu-jitsu's going on, I'll have to, like, stop. | ||
| I'll be like, look, guys, we're having a meeting right now. | ||
| I go, let's cover this over. | ||
| Like, jiu-jitsu started 20 minutes ago. | ||
| I need to get that workout in, otherwise I'm like... | ||
| You know, you create yourself a regimen throughout your life of working out a couple times a day, and that's what you do. | ||
| And then you go in and try to have meetings all day and, like, deal with this and put this fire out and get on this call. | ||
| And it's like, I was doing that together with being a full-time athlete, so finding the balance has been the key for me. | ||
| Well, for you, there probably is, like, a requirement that your body has to, like, blow out steam, too. | ||
| And that's another thing with the diet. | ||
| Like, you were asking Cody about his diet. | ||
| Like... | ||
| I have been like an overeater. | ||
| He doesn't like to like stuff himself and he's calling me, you know, making fun of me for eating all the time. | ||
| I'm like just constantly eating and whatnot because I'm used to doing that. | ||
| You burn so many calories in the day. | ||
| Now I have to like be mindful of not like overeating because I'm not putting out the same thing. | ||
| Otherwise I feel like crap. | ||
| Right, you don't want to get fat. | ||
| A lot of guys retire and get fat. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'm not worried about getting fat, necessarily. | ||
| It's more of just, like, feeling like shit. | ||
| Cody's the best instigator ever. | ||
| Whatever I'm doing, he tries to, like, accentuate it. | ||
| Like, if he knows that I'm like, man, I'm a little thick, and then he'll wait, like, a day and then be like... | ||
| Man, babes, you're looking a little bigger. | ||
| You're just always trying to make things worse. | ||
| Dude, you had a jujitsu match with Paul Miao, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And you went to a decision with him, man. | ||
| That's gigantic. | ||
| We went six overtimes. | ||
| Yeah, that's gigantic. | ||
| That guy is fucking legit, man. | ||
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Yeah, he's pretty good. | |
| For a guy like you who didn't specialize in that and specialized in MMA, you know, and coming from a wrestling background, obviously you have a grappling background and you were great at submissions in your MMA career, but to take on a guy that's like that accomplished as a grappler, that's gigantic, man. | ||
| Yeah, it was cool. | ||
| I mean, I always tell these guys, And I truly believe it, and that's why I said about Connor, too. | ||
| In our sport, you have to be able to go with a world champion jiu-jitsu player, a world champion wrestler, a world champion judo player, a world champion boxer, and be able to hold your own. | ||
| That's the difference with our sport, and that's why it's so impressive. | ||
| And so that's what I was saying for these guys. | ||
| And I didn't even... | ||
| For that, I was going to train real hard and take it real serious. | ||
| But then I got the Rampage movie role in the Rocks new movie. | ||
| So I went and spent 10 days in Atlanta. | ||
| And then I had told Chad before that I would do this charity fishing ship with these... | ||
| You know, the injured vets, and so we did that for three days. | ||
| I went in there looking like a chubby, there's a picture of me, I look so friggin' chubby in that thing. | ||
| And didn't even train, but I was like, you know what, I go, I take a lot of pride in my grappling ability. | ||
| I feel like, you know, I'm one of the best grapplers in the sport. | ||
| So it was good to go in there and do that. | ||
| Well, you know, that and Chad beating Jeff Glover. | ||
| That was huge. | ||
| Tapping him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Like, it just shows you the level of grappling that you guys have at your gym. | ||
| But I've gone, like, Jeff Glover and I, when I first started training in mixed martial arts, because I'm from Santa Barbara, when him and Bill Cooper were just kids. | ||
| I didn't know you were from Santa Barbara. | ||
| Yeah, I was born in Isla Vista. | ||
| And we have a house in Santa Barbara, yeah. | ||
| Dude, I love it up there. | ||
| Oh, bro, you gotta come stay at my house. | ||
| I mean, we rent it out. | ||
| In Santa Barbara? | ||
| It's rented out to a family from Sweden, but I'll hook you up, dude. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| You just bring your family up there. | ||
| Santa Barbara's awesome. | ||
| It is one of the best spots. | ||
| It really is one of the best spots. | ||
| So what were you saying about Jeff Glover? | ||
| You knew him from Paragon? | ||
| I've trained with Jeff for years. | ||
| Paragon used to be the size of two of these tables. | ||
| Like, in a little room. | ||
| And so I would go down and walk down from my uncle's house and go down to Paragon when those guys were just starting. | ||
| And me and Jeff have trained together for years. | ||
| And Bill, too. | ||
| Bill, when he... | ||
| Yeah, Bill the Grill. | ||
| Every time I'd come in there, he'd want to go straight wrestling. | ||
| Like, hey, can we do some takedowns? | ||
| Because he was trying to work on that part of his game. | ||
| But, like, I've trained with... | ||
| I've trained with Cobrina. | ||
| I've trained with Hobson Mora. | ||
| I've trained with Glover. | ||
| Whenever I see somebody that can whoop me in jiu-jitsu, I'm going with that guy. | ||
| I had Hobson come stay at my house. | ||
| I go and train with Cobrina all the time. | ||
| I had Glover. | ||
| I'd always hit him up and go with him. | ||
| So I've been going with those top-level guys my whole career. | ||
| That's huge though. | ||
| That's a giant accomplishment for you and even bigger for Chad to tap Glover. | ||
| You gotta see this guy, man. | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| That's what I'm always saying. | ||
| I always give you shit. | ||
| I've said it like two or three times and I'm like... | ||
| I'm like, let's roll. | ||
| And you're like, ah, you just want to try to fucking, you know, put it on me and this and that. | ||
| And I'm like, no, because you're always worried about me and other people's guards. | ||
| I said this the other day. | ||
| I'm like, whenever I'm worried about you and other people's guards, like in a fight, I'm talking about your commentary. | ||
| When have I ever been worried about you and someone's guard? | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Michael McDonald. | ||
| He's like, you're right. | ||
| Michael McDonald's got a really good close bottom game. | ||
| Well, I have to say that because you have to look out for things. | ||
| I mean, if I'm looking at a fight, I'm looking at what's the possibilities here. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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I know. | |
| I'm just fucking with you. | ||
| He does have a good guillotine from his back, but you fucked him up, man. | ||
| He has some good triangles. | ||
| He's got a good game. | ||
| That was a big win for you. | ||
| That was a big fight. | ||
| That was a good fight. | ||
| A wild fight. | ||
| Yeah, at that fight, I mean, he was knocking everyone out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's a weird one, man. | ||
| Like, in his style. | ||
| Because you look at his body, you think, like, how is this guy a heavy puncher? | ||
| And then he just... | ||
| He hits hard. | ||
| Oh, you can believe it. | ||
| It's a weird thing. | ||
| Cody's like that. | ||
| Look at him all skinny and dopey. | ||
| But he can hit hard. | ||
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I've been giving this guy shit for the last two days because of this black eye. | |
| He got a black eye. | ||
| He got elbowed by somebody that was covering up, kind of scared. | ||
| And then he boxed with my little Joseph Morales, who's been with me since he's nine. | ||
| He's a 25-pounder, just had his debut in the UFC. And I'm like, man, Popo got you with that black eye? | ||
| And he's like, no, it was the elbow. | ||
| And I'm like, no, man, it was... | ||
| I was getting up. | ||
| He got so pissed. | ||
| He's like, you're going to make it a real hard day for Joseph next time we spar. | ||
| Don't you think, though, that having a bunch of people around you that fuck with you like that is actually probably good for you when you get into a situation with a guy like, say, Dominic Cruz who talks a lot of shit. | ||
| You're so used to it. | ||
| That was one of the interesting things about that fight. | ||
| You could tell you're so used to shit-talking. | ||
| It didn't bother you at all. | ||
| It seemed like it charged you up. | ||
| Yeah, because he was getting fired up. | ||
| I was like, man, Dom doesn't act like that. | ||
| The way he was acting on our Times that we ran to each other. | ||
| I remember at the Mizugaki fight, he was talking so much shit about me being fatherless and like crazy. | ||
| I'm like, dude, like... | ||
| Really? | ||
| You could tell he sat around and tried to do research as how he's going to talk shit. | ||
| Yeah, he knew that my father was in prison or whatever. | ||
| I'm like, dude, that's... | ||
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Right. | |
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| So we go through the... | ||
| I'm getting ready to film, to walk in, to fight Mizugaki at 2.02. | ||
| And I catch fucking Dom at the corner of my eye, like, look and look, look away. | ||
| And I was like, oh, okay. | ||
| I'm going to have to say something to him now. | ||
| We caught... | ||
| So we're up to him. | ||
| He's like, what's up, man? | ||
| I was like... | ||
| What's up, man? | ||
| I mean, I was like, you're going to talk shit on the media about stupid what you're even saying. | ||
| Like, I'm going to knock Mizogaki out faster than you did, and I'm going to beat your ass next. | ||
| And then I was like, look, I don't slam you on the concrete now, like Biz Bing and... | ||
| Daniel Camaro was right there. | ||
| And he's like, oh yeah. | ||
| He looked back and he's like, yeah. | ||
| He's like, you do have daddy issues. | ||
| He said the off-the-wall shit. | ||
| Sorry, I know he's not about it. | ||
| He's a great fighter, don't get me wrong. | ||
| But when it's in that kind of situation, he's not. | ||
| I knew he was a flight. | ||
| You knew what? | ||
| He wasn't about the fighter. | ||
| So you mean he didn't want to brawl with you? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's not a fighter. | ||
| He's an athlete. | ||
| He's good at what he does, but I knew that he was at a different level, mentality-wise. | ||
| But that's a weird statement. | ||
| I've heard people say that before. | ||
| He's an athlete. | ||
| He's not a fighter. | ||
| But if he's fighting, he's a fighter. | ||
| So what's the difference? | ||
| I think... | ||
| I think Dominic actually showed... | ||
| I think he got too brave with Cody. | ||
| There's a couple times where he's like, alright, I'm going to get in there and show him I can hit hard. | ||
| And got him in trouble in that fight. | ||
| I think he's a fighter. | ||
| I know what he's talking about with athletes that are more athletes and less of a fighter. | ||
| People say that a lot about George St. Pierre. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't know if George St. Pierre loves a good, nasty, knockdown, dragout. | ||
| I know TJ Dillashaw... | ||
| He likes to get punched in the face and punch people back. | ||
| Cody Garbrandt will stand there and if he gets punched, he'll march guys down with his face down and tell them to hit him again. | ||
| There's those kind of people that love a fucking grinding fight, whether he's going to do it all the time or not, but they have an affinity for it. | ||
| They enjoy it. | ||
| And then some people that are playing a sport consider themselves tough and don't... | ||
| Don't like that kind of... | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| Rumble said that about himself. | ||
| Rumble Johnson said, I'm an athlete. | ||
| He goes, I'm not a fighter. | ||
| I'm just really good at it. | ||
| Which I thought was crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you chewing over there? | ||
| Is that what's going on? | ||
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No. | |
| You guys chewing tobacco? | ||
| I'm drinking. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You were spitting in something. | ||
| I just had a loogie, man. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I don't chew. | ||
| I don't have any vices. | ||
| I thought you were getting into that now. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| That fight leading up with Dominic was everyone thought I was... | ||
| The emotional one. | ||
| The way that he was acting, I was like, man, this is going to be an easy fight for me. | ||
| Right, because he was out of sorts. | ||
| It was not like Dominic. | ||
| Well, you were a big threat. | ||
| That's probably what it was, right? | ||
| I gave Dominic credit because I know that Dom knew that was going to be a hard fight. | ||
| I said, hey bro, thanks for choosing the harder route and talking up the fact that Cody is the next guy because he went for the toughest fight. | ||
| He knew that. | ||
| Yeah, he came to fight. | ||
| He got hit, he got busted, he was leaking. | ||
| I mean, his eye was completely gashed. | ||
| He was still fighting, like, come on, you know, talking. | ||
| But all the way up to that point where I head kicked him and split him open, and he was talking shit back to me. | ||
| It was funny. | ||
| I was like, he's like, what? | ||
| You little bitch. | ||
| Like, that didn't hurt. | ||
| Like, I was laughing. | ||
| Like, oh, don't you lie. | ||
| Like, don't lie to me. | ||
| I know that one got... | ||
| You know? | ||
| So it was fun. | ||
| Like, it was figuring him out but still, like, talking shit to each other and then going and... | ||
| And it was great because I'm like, this is a guy that I pictured fighting since I was a teenager. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And got prepared for him. | ||
| He's, you know... | ||
| But you said once he hit that, he stopped. | ||
| Right, so exactly. | ||
| Every time I hit him or I hit him with a good shot or he thought he'd get me with one, we'd go back and forth. | ||
| And so I head kicked him and my knee hit him and he came back up. | ||
| And I saw him like, great poker face, man. | ||
| He's tough. | ||
| He knows how to, you know, when he's hurt, he keeps it going. | ||
| But his eyes, he looked at the blood and I saw his pupils go really big. | ||
| And I was, hey, Dom, you having fun yet? | ||
| And he didn't answer back. | ||
| I was like, right then, the third round it was, I knew that's okay. | ||
| If I just keep doing what I'm doing, I'm going to win this fight. | ||
| I'll end up catching him. | ||
| It's my fight, as long as I don't get caught with something. | ||
| Because he throws looping punches and kicks, and he's very unorthodox. | ||
| But I knew right then after that, he was like, oh, shit. | ||
| This is an interesting fight coming up for you to be fighting TJ after training with him for so long and all the bad blood that you guys had with TJ leaving the team and going to train with Dwayne. | ||
| It's not so much about the team. | ||
| There's a lot of confusion about what went down. | ||
| Let's lay it out for people because TJ trained with you guys for a long time. | ||
| If I send you a text, I'll show you the four minute video of him explaining Exactly what happened, which is, you know... | ||
| You don't have to do that, but tell me from your point of view. | ||
| So, TJ left the team, like, said, hey, look... | ||
| First off, it was... | ||
| Stemmed on Ultimate Fighter with Connor. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Go from that, because he was there, and that's when we were defending him. | ||
| That's why I took it to... | ||
| I'm all about loyalty. | ||
| You don't do that shit. | ||
| I never really liked Dwayne, especially the way he left, because he was a strange guy. | ||
| It was always about money and weird things, etc. | ||
| He left, and that was fine. | ||
| That was his deal. | ||
| TJ was going to try to have him come back and train at our gym, but... | ||
| For his fight, and Dwayne refused to do it. | ||
| And I had a talk with TJ, and he was crying that Dwayne just wanted to focus on his own gym and this and that. | ||
| And he's like, you know, whatever. | ||
| And so he's like, I'm going to spend some time there and spend some time here, etc. | ||
| Like, that's fine. | ||
| So TJ... When he got there, he got some exposure for Muscle Farm, and Muscle Farm was like... | ||
| Let me help people out here. | ||
| Dwayne Ludwig is a former kickboxing champion, who was an MMA fighter, who fought in the UFC, and then went on to be a coach. | ||
| For a year and a half, for a year and three months. | ||
| No, no, he coaches now a lot, right, with his own gym. | ||
| But for you guys, he was your striking coach for a little bit. | ||
| For a year and three months. | ||
| And he worked with a bunch of your fighters, and he had a very special relationship with TJ. Then he moved out to Denver, and he moved out to Denver to start his own thing, and then Muscle Farm, which has a big gym in Denver, they invited TJ to come train there. | ||
| So fill in the blanks for people that don't know the story, that aren't maybe big-time fans. | ||
| So then he basically said that he wanted to... | ||
| That he wanted to... | ||
| He was doing his camps there for about a year and a half. | ||
| He'd spent a little time there, a little time here. | ||
| Most of the time, he lived in Sacramento most of the time there. | ||
| We'd go work with Dwayne. | ||
| No problem with it. | ||
| I had cornered with Dwayne even after he left with guys and stuff like that. | ||
| It wasn't an issue. | ||
| So then I heard Dwayne actually text me and was like, Dwayne said something like... | ||
| There's a whole side of the Dwayne thing, which is hilarious, that was him getting weird a year after he left, acting like he was there. | ||
| He tried to sue me for a figment of his imagination of some money that wasn't even there, and this whole thing. | ||
| He had one of his students write this thing. | ||
| There was something where he said that I'd like... | ||
| I can't even remember. | ||
| Like something like I didn't give him a discretionary bonus that was supposed to be given or something like that. | ||
| And so there was like some interminglings about that, whatever. | ||
| So Dwayne texts me and says – and I said, dude, I never set – I had to set the record straight on Dwayne. | ||
| And Dwayne texts me and says, hey, I'm not the one trying to steal your team and your fighters. | ||
| I know there's a team out here in Denver being built, but I'm not a part of that. | ||
| And I was like, are you talking about... | ||
| And I had talked to someone else that said that, hey, I heard that Matt Brown and TJ Dillashaw are getting paid to be on this team. | ||
| And so I come in and I was like, hey, we're talking about some team things and TJ was in practice. | ||
| I go, I got the weirdest thing. | ||
| Dwayne texts me this and this other guy said this. | ||
| I said, are you going to... | ||
| Like, paid to go start a new team or something? | ||
| And it was... | ||
| Cody was there, and Lance was there, and I was there. | ||
| And TJ, like, lies straight to us about the whole thing. | ||
| He's like, no, man, no, they offered me, but I'm not... | ||
| I'm with you guys, you know, on Team Alpha Male. | ||
| He's like, this and that. | ||
| And I was like, okay, whatever. | ||
| Then, time goes on. | ||
| And we have an actual sit-down talk. | ||
| We go eat sometimes and everything. | ||
| And TJ, Chad Mendes, my buddy Phil, we all go and eat. | ||
| And TJ just tells me, like, hey man, my next camp I'm going to go out to Denver, which he'd already been going out to Denver. | ||
| It had been like a year and a half since Dwayne had been gone. | ||
| It wasn't like he'd gone or whatever. | ||
| And he's like... | ||
| But MusclePharm offered me some real good money to be a part of their team. | ||
| He's like, so basically I'm no longer going to be representing Team Alpha Male. | ||
| I'm going to do my camp out there and they're going to announce me. | ||
| How much money are we talking about? | ||
| He told me at the time it was, I think, $4,500. | ||
| A month? | ||
| A month. | ||
| And they were going to rent him a house. | ||
| And I was like, okay. | ||
| And Chad was sitting right there. | ||
| TJ was sitting there. | ||
| I go, well, shoot, man. | ||
| It was nice having you on the team. | ||
| And he's like, why are you getting upset? | ||
| I go, I'm not upset. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, you're off the team then? | ||
| And he's like, well, yeah. | ||
| But he's like, but I have a house here. | ||
| I'm still going to come back and, like, come in and spar when I'm in town in the offseason or whatever. | ||
| So it just felt real weird to you guys. | ||
| It felt real weird. | ||
| And then I said, well... | ||
| So he was no longer going to be on our team. | ||
| He was going to be on a different team. | ||
| But then he wanted to come in. | ||
| At the time, I'm ranked number three in the world. | ||
| Cody and him are going at it in practice. | ||
| It's anybody's given day. | ||
| We can look at the footage, if you guys have the footage. | ||
| And then Holdsworth, 7-0, and had just won the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| So TJ's basically saying he's leaving the team. | ||
| I go, bro, TJ, I said, you can... | ||
| You know, you're welcome to stay on the team, but if you're no longer on the team, what does that mean? | ||
| He's like, well, I mean, it's just a good opportunity, man. | ||
| They don't have to pay. | ||
| They pay me to train, and they're starting a team, and everything's going to be under one roof, and I go, alright, cool. | ||
| Has anybody ever done that where it worked? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They always tried that. | ||
| Black Zillions. | ||
| Black Zillions did. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| So then after that, he was going to leave in two weeks. | ||
| And so me and Cody are sitting in there and like... | ||
| We hadn't said anything. | ||
| I told Fabio, our instructor, our jiu-jitsu instructor, what was happening. | ||
| And he told someone in Brazil, I was a Brazilian in Brazil, leaked it out that TJ was changing camps and there was all this drama and this and that. | ||
| And then I said, look, TJ, so he was coming in and TJ was never the best teammate. | ||
| He would try to hurt people. | ||
| He's a very competitive guy and he has a temper. | ||
| Try to hurt people, huh? | ||
| Cheap shotting. | ||
| Cheap shotting. | ||
| At the end of Bell, boxing, he knee ya. | ||
| No knees, he's like, I just knee him to the body. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, we're boxing sparring. | ||
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He knees you to the body and boxing sparring? | |
| There's no secret about TJ's... | ||
| We talked about it when he was still on the team also, that he had to be reeled in a little bit. | ||
| He's just got a temper. | ||
| That's why you called him Killshaw? | ||
| Yeah, Killashaw, Dillashank, like all that kind of stuff. | ||
| I mean, that was his thing, you know? | ||
| Such a super competitive, aggressive guy. | ||
| And cheap shots, yes. | ||
| Yeah, the super competitiveness, like I'm competitive, I don't want to lose. | ||
| Someone takes me, you know, I'm fighting tooth and nail not to get taken down or get that extra, win that round. | ||
| It just, at the end of the bell, knees, you know what I mean? | ||
| That's why Chris is out, you know what I mean? | ||
| Knee him in the back of the head for concussions. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| Chris Holdsworth? | ||
| That's where the injury came from? | ||
| I mean, I don't want to, Chris doesn't want us really talking about that. | ||
| But that's the truth. | ||
| We're talking about cheap shot. | ||
| What was it again? | ||
| I mean, he doesn't care if we talk about it. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| I'm not saying it. | ||
| It was him and TJ going. | ||
| I remember distinctively, Dwayne used to come up to Chris and be like, hey, Grasshopper. | ||
| He's like, we have TJ's fight. | ||
| Can you take it easy on him? | ||
| Can you take it easy on him? | ||
| Chris is a killer. | ||
| Chris is fucking him up. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| I mean, Chris is an animal. | ||
| And I guess Chris choked him out and TJ got out and fucking eat him in the back of the head. | ||
| When he was down on the mat. | ||
| In a grappling match? | ||
| Or were they sparring MMA? It was sparring, but... | ||
| Knees to the back of the head. | ||
| That's what-- - Wow. - After Chris submitted him. | ||
| I mean, just dirty shit. | ||
| I've been, a couple times I told-- - So Chris let him up, submitted him, let him off, and then TJ kneed him in the back of the head? - I don't know if that's exactly how it was. | ||
| I remember seeing the whole thing. | ||
| I don't really want to get into this because it's Chris's gig, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's fine. | ||
| But we already got into it. | ||
| We're talking about TJ being a cheap shot. | ||
| That's what literally killed Chris's career? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The majority of them, obviously concussions. | ||
| I'm real good friends with Chris. | ||
| They live together. | ||
| They live together. | ||
| He went through it. | ||
| That's why his last fight was. | ||
| He had to fight with a concussion because he was scheduled to fight. | ||
| It happened twice in practice like that. | ||
| It's one of the things that when I first came out there, I was never real close with TJ. I was out there, I was doing well with the guys, and a couple of the guys told me, like, man, TJ can't wait to spar with you. | ||
| This is when he was coming off his Rafael Sinsalas. | ||
| I was like, cool, like, fuck it. | ||
| I can't wait to spar with him either. | ||
| He's better, and it's going to be a good round, you know? | ||
| And I was pretty warned, like, hey, TJ does some cheap shit, just, you know, keep it cool. | ||
| And there's video, I think I have some, uh, one of the kids that was a boxing, he sent it to me months ago. | ||
| TJ, like, cheap shot me after the bell, and I was like, I remember telling TJ, I said, look, motherfucker, you cheap shot me again, we're taking the gloves off, we're going in the street and fighting. | ||
| Yeah, I had to talk Cody down twice because of that. | ||
| Yeah, I just don't ever like that, especially teammates, you don't do that shit. | ||
| Like, hey, you get me, you get me, but don't cheap shot me at the end of the bell, and then As soon as you're hitting someone after the Chiefs, you're like, oh dude, I'm sorry. | ||
| You know what you're doing. | ||
| So anyways, that being said, we knew that was part of TJ's thing, but now he's no longer part of our team, and he's also getting paid to go somewhere else. | ||
| He's no longer contributing in any way, and he wants to come in and come in and spar our guys. | ||
| He basically wanted to be on our team, benefit of our team, without being a part of the team anymore and getting paid to be somewhere else. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would have been fine if he talked to me about like, hey, I'm going to work something out where I go get paid and do this, whatever. | ||
| But then I'm like, okay. | ||
| So that whole week he's in there and he's sitting there watching me and Cody in practice. | ||
| And I don't care. | ||
| I mean, TJ is a competitive. | ||
| He's always looking for edge. | ||
| That whole week prior to telling us that he was leaving, he kept getting like... | ||
| Hey, there's getting some proprietary series in this series. | ||
| There's a single leg guard series I used to get him with. | ||
| He's like, having me and Martin Camp show him all this stuff we were working on. | ||
| Hey, can you show me this and show me that? | ||
| Like the week before. | ||
| And then... | ||
| So I was like, I go, TJ, look, man, this is getting awkward in practice. | ||
| I said, look, we can... | ||
| I had him over at my house and I said, look... | ||
| We can build a friendship however we want to do it. | ||
| I said, but this is getting awkward and you being in practice and you no longer being on the team and everything else. | ||
| Let's finish out this last couple days and then you be on your team. | ||
| We can be friends on the outside. | ||
| We can work on that as a deal, whatever. | ||
| He wanted to come in and train with our team still as not part of the team. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then I was like, but you're welcome to stay on our team, obviously, if you want, and continue to do your camps and whatnot. | ||
| And he is just like out. | ||
| So at that point, it became him taking this opportunity, going to Denver, being with Dwayne, getting paid to do the muscle farm thing. | ||
| And then the whole thing with Connor happened on the TV show before this. | ||
| Before any of this happened, Conor McGregor started calling him a snake because me and Conor had one conversation. | ||
| We were sitting there and he goes, man, congratulations on TJ defending his belt because he was still on our team, his last title defense. | ||
| And I go, thanks. | ||
| He goes, but what's up with Dwayne saying that no one on your team wants to be champions? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| I said, oh, he's just bitter because he's trying to get everyone to go out to his camp. | ||
| He's just being a hater, this and that. | ||
| And he goes... | ||
| He took that little bit of drama between me and Dwayne, like Dwayne saying that no one on our team wanted to be your champions, including Cody, who sent him a tweet that said, hey, keep my name out of your mouth. | ||
| You're like a jealous girlfriend or whatever. | ||
| And he took that one little thing, and then next time he saw TG, he goes, oh, there's a snake in the grass and just built it in this big thing. | ||
| It's crazy how well he is at manipulating that kind of shit. | ||
| He's so good at seeing people, right? | ||
| So that took... | ||
| What really happened, which was TJ got paid to go somewhere else. | ||
| Me saying, alright, fine. | ||
| If you're going to do that, it's cool. | ||
| But if you're on that team, you're on that team. | ||
| And then Connor turned the public around on him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it came out later after the thing. | ||
| And so then T.J. became the victim. | ||
| And now T.J.'s new story is that I got mad that he was training with Dwayne Ludwig and I kicked him off the team. | ||
| Well, you know, T.J. now has a snake as his logo. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| On the Ultimate Fighter, he brought in snakes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He's at home with it, you know? | ||
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He's cool with it. | |
| So it's all good. | ||
| How weird. | ||
| If you want to be friends, let's be friends. | ||
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But don't lie. | |
| Rewinding back to it, I remember going to Canada. | ||
| It was during the Ultimate Fighter, sticking up for TJ. Because TJ wasn't saying that. | ||
| Conor was basically inviting him to fight. | ||
| And TJ was like, yeah, nonchalantly, whatever about it. | ||
| But wasn't defending himself. | ||
| Like, I'm not a snake. | ||
| Someone called me a snake in the grass. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| Disloyal to my teammates and shit, we're fighting. | ||
| And that's why I stick up for TJ, because TJ's literally, I'm like, we're partying in Vegas, we're having a good time, like, for the first time hanging out. | ||
| Yeah, you had kind of a heart-to-heart with him, too. | ||
| With TJ, yeah, and he's like, so he's telling me this shit, like, he's like, dude, I'm with you guys, like, I'm not leaving, fuck that, like, I'm with you guys. | ||
| So I'm like, this is, not even that I'm not that close with TJ, but he's part of our team, he's a champion, he's, you know... | ||
| When you're a champion, you get taken care of, and people, you know, I'll defend them. | ||
| So, Conor was doing that. | ||
| He's like, what are you guys going to do? | ||
| And it was talking about TJ. So, I was like, man, I'll do something about it. | ||
| Like, you're asking for a fight? | ||
| We'll fight. | ||
| And it broke into the pushing match, and it was going out to the outside. | ||
| Because that's TJ saying that he was with us. | ||
| So, I'm like, dude, he's not going to talk about my team. | ||
| So, how does it feel now, knowing that you're going to defend against TJ with all this weird drama? | ||
| All this bullshit. | ||
| For me, I don't ever get wrapped up into it. | ||
| It might look like that with the show. | ||
| My life's been like this. | ||
| I can live and prosper and focus on... | ||
| When it's time to focus and die, it's like flipping a switch. | ||
| I can be doing the dumbest shit. | ||
| You're fighting Dominic Cruz. | ||
| We're in the back just doing dumb shit. | ||
| I'm not even warming up. | ||
| I'm just flipping a switch. | ||
| I always was like that since I was a little kid wrestling, football. | ||
| When the lights shine, that's when I shine the brightest, I always feel like. | ||
| And now with TJ... I don't respect him as a person, but it doesn't mean I don't respect him as a fighter. | ||
| The guy is skillful, he's mean as fuck, and he's going to bring a fight that's going to be what I love a challenge. | ||
| With TJ, it's going to be a challenge. | ||
| I know him like the back of my hand. | ||
| My coaches know him like the back of my hand. | ||
| We were able to dissect Dominick Cruz, for me, through all their experiences. | ||
| This is a guy they built up that was there longer than I've been. | ||
| I went out there at 1-0. | ||
| I had 10 fights now with Team Alpha Male. | ||
| No, 11-0 world champion. | ||
| Obviously, I was skilled before I got there. | ||
| We blended together. | ||
| They had the recipe for success. | ||
| I listened and followed Lead with Faber and a lot of other guys on the team. | ||
| And so we know TJ. I know what he's going to do. | ||
| I know what I have to be prepared for. | ||
| So I'm excited for it. | ||
| All the drama, bullshit, hey, whatever, it's going on too long. | ||
| I'm just ready to focus on this fight and go in there and do what I have to do to get this win. | ||
| Well, you have a good mindset. | ||
| I mean, that is a gigantic part of what makes someone successful in the sport, is being able to do that. | ||
| Like you said, having the confidence that you're going to shine the brightest when the lights are on. | ||
| And having this mindset like you're appreciating the fact that T.J. is mean and skillful. | ||
| It's going to give you a great challenge. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, man, I'm sitting on the couch or something, like, what do you think T.J. is doing? | ||
| He's sitting on the couch, like, you're getting, I'm going to do the extra woodwork, because you know T.J. is a workhorse like that. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So as for me, it makes me motivated. | ||
| I need these guys to keep me motivated. | ||
| Like Dominic, you know, I watched the embeddings of him. | ||
| He was running alone, you know, like a sob story on Christmas. | ||
| Like, I just got to do this. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I'm sitting there, you know. | ||
| We're having a party. | ||
| Yeah, having a party. | ||
| Like, man, I'm enjoying this shit. | ||
| Like, I'm about to fight for my first title. | ||
| You know, I'll never have this time again in my life. | ||
| I'll never fight for my first world title. | ||
| Now it's, I'm finally getting to defend my title. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| A lot of, we were talking about this. | ||
| A lot of people win the title, but what the fuck do they do with it? | ||
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| You know, now it's about creating that legacy. | ||
| And now I have TJ who's, man, he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He was ranked in the pound for pound before in the top ten. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's a killer, so that's a, I'm going to catapult my career with him. | ||
| And I know what I'm going to do with him. | ||
| Like I said, I've been with 1-0 when I was green, so I was just boxing, wrestling, athletic, love to fight. | ||
| Now I've blended and found my own style and just finally getting really composed in there where I can let my skills show off. | ||
| And I'm fighting higher people, so my skill level rises. | ||
| I've always was like that. | ||
| Now what is this video, supposedly, of you knocking him out? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh yeah, true. | ||
| True, yeah. | ||
| How come you guys didn't release it? | ||
| First off, I don't have it. | ||
| I have seen it. | ||
| It's Justin. | ||
| It was on Justin's GoPro. | ||
| And dude, I felt not bad for it because it was just whatever. | ||
| TJ followed me around wherever I would go. | ||
| I'd put my gym bag away. | ||
| Hey man, I slipped, dude. | ||
| I'm like, okay TJ. Literally, he was off his rocker about it. | ||
| TJ's super competitive. | ||
| How did it go down? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| I remember him throwing a Doing his little footwork and then he did the jump down and does the uppercut and I just threw overhand right. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Melted him. | ||
| Out. | ||
| And he got up and he was literally fighting Easton. | ||
| Right before the Easton fight because I remember the date. | ||
| He didn't go out cold like flat out. | ||
| He just got dropped. | ||
| Dropped and came back up and he was on stanky leg like Walker. | ||
| And he's going, come on motherfucker! | ||
| Hit me! | ||
| I'm like, just like, I'm like, like, pulling my jibe out, like, no. | ||
| He was saying that after you dropped him? | ||
| Yeah, he's a fucking nut. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, he's always like, this TJ's a fucking nut. | ||
| Come on, motherfucker! | ||
| So it wasn't a knockout as much as it was you just dropped him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I dropped him. | ||
| I mean, his legs forward. | ||
| And then he got back up and started saying, come on, motherfucker. | ||
| So he was conscious, right? | ||
| And he knew that he had hit. | ||
| He was staggering, bro. | ||
| He looked like John Dodson had him on skates again. | ||
| Honestly, that's what I was like, oh, okay. | ||
| And I was like, I'm not going to hit him. | ||
| You're fighting in two weeks. | ||
| I wasn't like that. | ||
| But literally, he had to say he fell forward and he slipped. | ||
| I'm like, dude, it doesn't matter. | ||
| I'm not going to stay on, you know? | ||
| And then I was showing Danny how I like Castillo because he likes overhand rights. | ||
| How I like to throw my head off the lane and bring the right hand. | ||
| This and that. | ||
| And Buckles comes over. | ||
| He's like, dude. | ||
| And it was on Christmas Day or something sparring. | ||
| Buckles was filming his own sparring. | ||
| He's like, dude, I was going to watch you knock TJ out. | ||
| And I was like, oh, yeah. | ||
| He's like, oh, I have it on my GoPro. | ||
| I'm like, oh, that's cool. | ||
| And then nothing ever came about it. | ||
| And then TJ was saying that he used to make me cry in practice. | ||
| No. | ||
| I have cried in practice before because this motherfucker jumped me on my head. | ||
| Before that, I made a fight. | ||
| I was, like, super mad about it. | ||
| Faber comes in, has a camera crew at the Purest Labs. | ||
| And, like, we're going hard. | ||
| And, like, it dumps me on my head. | ||
| I'm like, oh, I get mad. | ||
| I'm like, you know, I'm, like, trying not to get hurt before the fight. | ||
| So, like, I never cried. | ||
| TJ never made me cry. | ||
| So I was like... | ||
| What is he talking about making me cry? | ||
| Like, I'll admit if I cried in practice. | ||
| So when you get dumped on your head, did you get concussed or something? | ||
| Did you get hurt? | ||
| More of like, Favre thinks I'm like, huh? | ||
| He's out. | ||
| He cried. | ||
| Pride. | ||
| Pride. | ||
| Pride, he's saying. | ||
| Favre comes in just... | ||
| Come on! | ||
| I don't barely remember this. | ||
| I think what's happened... | ||
| First off, here's the thing. | ||
| Cody is a dangerous, dangerous motherfucker. | ||
| If you're not on your... | ||
| Even if he's not trying to, you're getting fucking rocked or hurt or whatever. | ||
| So I have to be on A-game with him, even if you're going light, you know, unless he's going to go light. | ||
| But light doesn't work when a guy's accurate and strong and everything else. | ||
| So we had to go... | ||
| So it was just like a wizard hip heist... | ||
| Launched me, dude. | ||
| Launched me on my head. | ||
| Because you were coming after me. | ||
| So I know now when there's a camera crew fall in favor, it's not light, it's fucking a fight. | ||
| So I'm prepared for that. | ||
| That's where all that came from about the video and coming out. | ||
| We had the video of you getting knocked out, TJ. He was saying he beat us all up with the Dominic sit-down. | ||
| I think Dwayne was maybe saying that or something. | ||
| He said that Dominic. | ||
| Dominic's like, oh, you beat your teammates up. | ||
| He's like, yeah, I actually, for a matter of fact, have been beating them up. | ||
| I don't follow most of the stuff. | ||
| What's your thoughts on sparring? | ||
| Do you think that you should be sparring hard or do you think you should be sparring technical and pull back on shots or do you think you should have a little bit of both? | ||
| I think a little bit of both. | ||
| I think Beginning of camp, you get your rounds in to where you're feeling comfortable, and then later on in camp, your technique, your combos that you're working, kind of like fight simulation, but get those rounds in because you're not wanting to beat your body up closer to the fight. | ||
| I want to feel fresh at the fight, and that's how I've always used—I'll literally get 50 rounds of sparring. | ||
| Start tapering off towards the end of the fight camp, as it's called in boxing, really. | ||
| No fight camps. | ||
| In camp, do you try to spar with only people that you know, so that you know that you can trust them, so you know, like, especially, obviously this TJ fight's a giant fight. | ||
| Huge fight. | ||
| And it's going to be huge, not just for the division, but for the sport. | ||
| I mean, all the major fans are going to be paying attention to this fight. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| I'm safe with it now, like... | ||
| We were talking about, I've had all these fights logged in, not even just all the street fights, all the boxing matches, the sparring work. | ||
| I don't need to spar as much, but I need to... | ||
| We were sparring 10 rounds for the cruise fight. | ||
| 10 straight 5s. | ||
| You know, 8 to 10 each week. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Buckles is kind of, you know, it worked. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But we were doing smaller glove, more MMA-based. | ||
| You know, big gloves, I mean, techniques are out the window. | ||
| You know, people just brawl and brawl kind of shit. | ||
| Like, I like small glove. | ||
| You know, you're still peppering the shots, hitting them, but you're working the whole game. | ||
| Takedowns, submissions. | ||
| So I like that. | ||
| And also fight simulations. | ||
| I like fight. | ||
| Like, having my uncle come out, pad holder, Justin's Yeah, there is nothing like running, sprinting, blowing out the lungs, etc. | ||
| There's nothing like actual, like intense sparring to simulate what it feels like in a fight though. | ||
| And it's as familiar as you get with it. | ||
| It still feels horrible when it happens. | ||
| Like I've been, I've always been known as like the conditioning guy. | ||
| Like I can condition and, and like never get tired, et cetera, et cetera, in fights. | ||
| You get tired. | ||
| It's about the poker face. | ||
| It's about being familiar with it. | ||
| It's about like, you know, these things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Being comfortable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Being comfortable with it. | ||
| So you have to get there sometimes. | ||
| And it's just being smart about it. | ||
| Yeah, Cowboy doesn't spar anymore. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, Cowboy essentially does mostly drills and pad work and simulations and stuff like that. | ||
| And if he does spar, I think he spars super light because he was realizing that he was beating himself up too much in training and coming into fights like already kind of a little soft. | ||
| Not soft, but you know. | ||
| Yeah, I trained with him for a week and that's what he loved to do. | ||
| Fucking treadmill, bike workouts, and sparring and pad work. | ||
| You know, nothing really else. | ||
| Didn't wrestle Jits. | ||
| He just loved sparring, doing all that. | ||
| Did he spar hard though? | ||
| I heard he's like a killer, knocking dudes out of the gym like a nasty fucking sparring partner cowboy. | ||
| Maybe that's one of the reasons why he stopped doing it. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Maybe all that stuff. | ||
| I mean, look, you can't always be the hammer. | ||
| If you're having those kind of rock-em-sock-em-robot sparring sessions, you're going to get tagged. | ||
| For sure, right? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| For me, I like getting in those. | ||
| We just had Saturday sparring with... | ||
| Eric Sanchez. | ||
| Yeah, we had a killer's row of sparring going on this last weekend. | ||
| Ten rounds, yeah. | ||
| You gotta get those in sometimes. | ||
| Those, for me, I've been out of it for a little bit. | ||
| Just knowing that... | ||
| It's a couple weeks to knock the rest off. | ||
| That's why it feels good. | ||
| But you feel good about it. | ||
| You're like, wow, we're going to go in here and fight. | ||
| I know the fight that TJ's going to bring. | ||
| I hope it's a phone booth. | ||
| I hope it's standing trade. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I don't know how he's going to... | ||
| Because he knows my skills. | ||
| He knows that I've gotten so much better since then. | ||
| I was still... | ||
| Getting the better of him. | ||
| I'm not saying to my own horn or whatever. | ||
| It's the gym. | ||
| But as competitive as he is and competitive as I am, you're not going to give an edge in practice. | ||
| I don't give an edge in practice. | ||
| Faber takes me down. | ||
| We're going again. | ||
| You know, it's vice versa. | ||
| I take Faber down. | ||
| Oh, it's overtime. | ||
| We go 40 minutes after sometimes. | ||
| It's like, this guy's one of the hardest guys to break because he's just... | ||
| I don't know if he's too dumb to know he's tired or stop going, but I'm like, damn, dude. | ||
| We were just talking about that. | ||
| Now he's retired, so he comes in. | ||
| All fresh. | ||
| He's all fresh, but he comes in. | ||
| This guy's retired. | ||
| I'm going to fuck Faber up. | ||
| This guy's breaking these younger dudes that are killers themselves because he just has that mentality. | ||
| It's a different breed. | ||
| Like I said, TJ, he's that breed. | ||
| He is that breed. | ||
| To that point. | ||
| He's an alpha male guy, unfortunately. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you guys feel like you could ever reconcile or do you feel like he's crossed a line into some weird sort of treacherous area? | ||
| I did so much defending of that guy because of, you know, whatever his thing is here and this and that. | ||
| And I have a lot of great friends that are newer. | ||
| I mean, like, Cody's newer in my life, but we've got a bond. | ||
| I've got friends that I've had since I was, like, kindergarten and before kindergarten and growing up together, you know, I've got great groups of friends, so it's like, I mean, I can reconcile whatever. | ||
| Just stop lying about what actually happened to save your face. | ||
| It's like, I'd never kick the guy off of a team or anything, and then he gets the one opportunity on national television to say something about me. | ||
| That's my only qualm with the guy. | ||
| I didn't like Dwayne because of the things that he had done. | ||
| But TJ and I were always cool. | ||
| Yeah, I still made it work. | ||
| Is that one of the weirdest things about running a gym and running a camp? | ||
| Is that you kind of have to manage? | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
| You almost have to be like a psychologist. | ||
| Oh my gosh, dude. | ||
| A lot of fighters are prima donnas and you throw in fighters. | ||
| You're almost not just a trainer, not just a teammate, but you're also a psychologist and some sort of a counselor. | ||
| I have to be glue. | ||
| Honestly, I'm just learning this more and more. | ||
| When I step out of the area too much, it's like, I have to come back in and put out fires and bring everyone back together. | ||
| I would say that's one of my skills is getting along with people and making things mesh and finding a culture and building a healthy environment. | ||
| That can get tweaked so easily. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's cancer. | ||
| Yeah, and now Justin Buchholz is your main trainer now, right? | ||
| He's like... | ||
| What we've gone to now is we have a whole staff of main trainers because we have so many fighters. | ||
| I mean, we just had Sage Northcutt, Yair Rodriguez, and Sarah McMahon are in the gym right now. | ||
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Nice. | |
| And Rick Glenn is about to go, and he's a new guy on the team. | ||
| And then we've got Darren Elkins. | ||
| So we have different guys like Danny Castillo is a head coach. | ||
| Chris Holdress is a head coach. | ||
| Coach Joey Rodriguez is a head coach. | ||
| Danny Castillo is a head coach. | ||
| We have Fabio Prado who's a coach. | ||
| Dustin Akbari, and those guys have been with us for 14 years, 13 years. | ||
| And I'm in a lead position as a coach. | ||
| I run practices and oversee things and coordinate things. | ||
| It's a co-op. | ||
| It's a big co-op and different people have different coaches that are like their main gig and different skill sets. | ||
| Justin's still fairly young too, right? | ||
| How old is Justin? | ||
| He's like 34? | ||
| Yeah, he's 35 I think. | ||
| And is he completely done competing? | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| You never know with the fight game. | ||
| It only takes a yes to be back in the fight game. | ||
| Sometimes guys, when they coach, they also feel like they're getting better because they understand things more. | ||
| You see that a lot with jiu-jitsu competitors. | ||
| A lot of times coaching makes them a better fighter. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if he'll come back, but I mean, what we've got is a great co-op and it's always a struggle to keep things because there's going to be clicks. | ||
| There's going to be the potheads and the nerds and the fucking jocks and like, you know, whatever. | ||
| Fucking dopers. | ||
| So are you enjoying it still? | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| After all these years in the game? | ||
| Dude, you know what? | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| I went to Mexico City and I missed Chad's wedding to go. | ||
| And Chad's my boy. | ||
| I love Chad. | ||
| I love Abby, his wife. | ||
| And I know I miss a great time. | ||
| But I got to go corner Joseph Morales... | ||
| He's the oldest member of our team. | ||
| He's been with us the longest. | ||
| He was nine years old when he started with us. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It was me and Danny Castillo and our coach Joey in his corner. | ||
| Danny was getting all teared up. | ||
| We all got teared up right before the fight. | ||
| We brought it in and everyone's kind of crying and everything. | ||
| Joseph, I mean, he's been through his struggles. | ||
| When he was going through a hard time, I took him to the front row of UFC and just put him right there and let him visualize. | ||
| So that's the stuff I enjoy. | ||
| Now, you guys had Yair in camp, huh? | ||
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Yes. | |
| What a crazy style. | ||
| He's staying at my house right now. | ||
| He's all by himself in Big Ol' House. | ||
| What a crazy style that guy's got. | ||
| Dude, he's a really talented guy. | ||
| Weird style too, right? | ||
| Like that Taekwondo-based kicking and wild shit. | ||
| Like when he hit BJ Penn with a 360 roundhouse kick to the face, you're like, oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got good range. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He has good range. | ||
| He even said that. | ||
| His hands, you know, I'm not so good with the range and knowing my kicks, I'm real accurate with his kicks. | ||
| And he says I kick harder and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, he feels like he's more accurate and faster with his kicks than he is with his hands. | ||
| Well, there's less consequences if he's not doing it with someone who's also a great kicker. | ||
| Because he's able to operate in a range where he's pretty effective and most people aren't. | ||
| He's a long kicker, too. | ||
| He's been staying at my house the last week, and so I'm getting to know him a lot. | ||
| What a cool dude. | ||
| That guy's very smart. | ||
| He's well put together. | ||
| I got to hear a little bit about the town he's from, Chihuahua, in Mexico. | ||
| It's a pretty scary place. | ||
| His journey as a young kid is one of the top karate guys in Mexico. | ||
| He's been a competitor for... | ||
| We used to have a coach that used to hit him with a stick so they left that place and the guy called him back and was like, can you please come back? | ||
| I won't hit you with a stick anymore? | ||
| Yeah, when he was like 7 and 8. He's been in the combat sport for a while. | ||
| I think that Frankie Edgar fight was a very tough fight for him, but a good fight as far as a learning experience. | ||
| And a lot of people had said that, and I was one of the ones that said it, like, we'll see what happens when he fights a great wrestler. | ||
| Like, that's going to be the real issue with him, because he's got all this wild kicking stuff, but that stuff doesn't work if somebody grabs ahold of you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If someone can control you. | ||
| Frankie's on a different level with that, too. | ||
| He's great at mixing it together. | ||
| So, Yair... | ||
| His wrestling, because I got to wrestle him the other day, he actually posted a little video of us wrestling. | ||
| But his wrestling is good. | ||
| It's just like Conor. | ||
| Conor's boxing is really good. | ||
| It's just not Floyd Mayweather good. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| In the later rounds, you know? | ||
| So, like, Yair's made a lot of gains. | ||
| He went and trained with Israel Martinez, who put him through like a... | ||
| You know, he's a great coach, Israel. | ||
| Very good coach. | ||
| And he put him through... | ||
| Like a whole year of wrestling, so his wrestling is top notch, but it's not, you know... | ||
| It needs to get to another level. | ||
| Not Frank Yeager level. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When you're a little bit fatigued and you make a small mistake and the guy can capitalize, but it's getting there. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
| You see so many different approaches, and his approach is very unique, and it's one of the things that's exciting about him is that he's got that crazy, wild kicking style. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he'll throw everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he torpedo kicks, all kinds of shit. | ||
| That's a guy I like to mix up with, because you don't see too many of those guys, but once you run into them, you've got to be prepared for them. | ||
| Yeah, and it's good to watch him and Feely were training. | ||
| He got a win over Feely, but Feely felt like, oh man, I was in that fight. | ||
| He just got caught. | ||
| He got popped in the orbital and then couldn't see and got switched, kicked to the dome. | ||
| And so Feely is like, man, it's fun to watch these guys come full circle, like... | ||
| Yair beat Feely, and now they're training together and working together a little bit. | ||
| And then Darren Elkins lost to Chad, and Darren Elkins came to see us, and he's been on like a six-fight win streak. | ||
| That guy is a friggin' gem, dude, huh? | ||
| Dude, that fight with Mursat Bektik was one of the craziest moments I've ever seen in the Octagon. | ||
| Getting his ass kicked for every fuckin' second of the first couple rounds, and he finally gets a hold of him. | ||
| The damage. | ||
| Beats him down and KOs him, and then just screams like a demon. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Covered in blood. | ||
| I was sitting there. | ||
| I left during the second round. | ||
| I was like, man, I can't watch this. | ||
| I don't like watching my friends, especially when shit like that happens. | ||
| I walked out, and the next thing you know, the place goes nuts, and I see Elkins, you know, knock them out. | ||
| I was like, holy, that kid, that kid. | ||
| You gotta, honestly, to stop Elkins, you have to knock him the fuck out. | ||
| Gotta shut his brain off. | ||
| Shut his system off, yeah. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So tough. | ||
| Elkins is the pillar of consistency. | ||
| He's always at every practice, listens to every coach, going hard. | ||
| We have these two Chechnyan brothers that come in. | ||
| They're from Chechnya. | ||
| They're really talented guys. | ||
| I'm actually going to go corner the guys over in Ukraine. | ||
| But they're super skilled fighters. | ||
| But don't have that grind like we have here. | ||
| And so they keep popping him. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| And then they keep trying to call timeout. | ||
| They catch him with a couple things. | ||
| And Elkins is chasing out. | ||
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They go, uh-uh, you're not taking a timeout. | |
| Uh-uh. | ||
| He grabs the guy. | ||
| Why do they try to take timeout? | ||
| Because they get tired. | ||
| The funniest shit. | ||
| They'll be pop, pop. | ||
| His head will fly back. | ||
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Boom. | |
| Hit him there. | ||
| Kick him in the leg. | ||
| And he's like... | ||
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Keeps forward. | |
| Then he catches him with something and grabs him, like, oh, timeout, timeout. | ||
| He's like, uh-oh, fuck that, motherfucker. | ||
| No timeout. | ||
| Elkins is a grinder. | ||
| Yeah, he's a grinder. | ||
| He looked great against Dennis Bermudez. | ||
| That's a big win. | ||
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Awesome. | |
| That's a big win. | ||
| Bermudez, and he looked smooth in that fight. | ||
| Smooth. | ||
| He didn't take as much damage. | ||
| His name's a damage for a reason because he gets so much damage. | ||
| But it's also like the way he's moving looks better. | ||
| The way he's kicking and punching, his combinations. | ||
| He looks like he's got less extra steps. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's all smoothness in his transitions and his movements. | ||
| That's what we've been working on. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| I think a lot of that has to do with, obviously, the work and the footwork. | ||
| Some of these guys are straight wrestlers, and then they're like, alright, we're going to wrestle and throw punches and try to take you down, but the footwork is the core of everything. | ||
| Yeah, you can throw good hands, but if your feet are out of position, you're getting taken down. | ||
| You're not going to land power punches. | ||
| So the footwork, I... Religiously work on footwork daily. | ||
| Yeah, like that's all I do is footwork Dominic mean that is his entire thing is his ability to move is just so unusual his footwork is so weird And that's one of the things where you went toe-for-toe for him toe-to-toe with him when your your footwork is equally as good as his is not better and you were landing harder combinations for us to Master Tong was all about footwork and body mechanics, and he's back in Thailand now, and then that's been passed on to our next generation of coaches. | ||
| Did he move back? | ||
| He did move back after 11 years. | ||
| Why did he decide to move back to Thailand? | ||
| Became a monk for a day. | ||
| He became a monk for a day because... | ||
| Because his parents had died. | ||
| If you don't go and live in the monastery for within a year and a half after, he hadn't seen his son in 11 years since his son was four. | ||
| And he spent all his time FaceTiming with his family and he wasn't necessarily allowed back. | ||
| And when he went back, he stuck back. | ||
| He wasn't allowed back? | ||
| How come? | ||
| Illegal. | ||
| Oh, so he couldn't come back to America if he went back to Thailand. | ||
| Yeah, so when he was gone, he was gone because he overstayed a visa. | ||
| Oh, I see. | ||
| So when you saw TJ Dillashaw in my corner in Canada, that's because Master Tong couldn't go to Canada. | ||
| TJ knew every single thing that... | ||
| That Master Tong knew all his stuff and could hold mitts. | ||
| But he was all about that. | ||
| See, that's what's great about having all these coaches. | ||
| Justin Buckles, he knows Master Tong's style. | ||
| He knows my style. | ||
| He knows every coach you've ever had in there. | ||
| Dwayne's style. | ||
| He knows anybody. | ||
| Dimitri Maidonic... | ||
| Dimitri Madonic style. | ||
| Anybody that's been in here, he knows Bob, Bob's, Uncle Bob's style. | ||
| And so you get a guy like Darren Elkins that needs to work on that striking. | ||
| and we put him with Justin Buckles and with the cumulative part of the team, it works wonders. | ||
| And then you get a guy like Yair who comes in with this striking background and now we've got all these different attributes like a Sage Northcutt who's with us right now. | ||
| That guy is the... | ||
| Hey, let's take a moment to acknowledge Sage Northcutt is the nicest guy on the planet. | ||
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He's the nicest guy. | |
| He's legitimately the nicest dude on the planet. | ||
| Do you think that guy got into the UFC too quick? | ||
| Maybe a little bit, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| Young guy, super talented, and was looking really good in some small organizations, but really didn't have a complete game yet. | ||
| I'm going to tell you, he learns really, really fast. | ||
| I always mess with Cody. | ||
| I always get this guy, I'm like, man, Sage learns a lot faster than you. | ||
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It's not really the case, I just like to fuck with this guy. | |
| Doesn't Sage have a sister that's a karate competitor too? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Did she fight MMA? She took her first fight and she lost. | |
| But she has some potential too. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| He's a fun case, you know, because he's got that weird karate style. | ||
| He's super fast, super explosive. | ||
| He's got a mean streak too though. | ||
| I mean, you wouldn't know it, but he's got a little mean streak, and he's got all the knowledge. | ||
| Everybody, because he's nice, everybody wants to help the guy, and he's so nice that he's just like, oh, thank you, and just learn from whoever tells him, you know? | ||
| Calls me Mr. Faber. | ||
| That's awesome, Mr. Faber. | ||
| Mr. Favor. | ||
| Now when you guys do a camp, like say you training for TJ, who organizes your camp? | ||
| How do you organize your strength and conditioning routine? | ||
| How do you organize what you're going to do that day? | ||
| Or do you do it based on how you feel? | ||
| Who is the coordinator? | ||
| Myself, basically, that's what we do. | ||
| Faber always would preach about, hey, it's a lifestyle change. | ||
| If you need to do this much work, you need to do wrestling, get some guys on the team and wrestle. | ||
| So I'll figure out what I need to do, especially for this fight with TJ. I know the specific work that I need. | ||
| Combos, what he throws, what he likes to do, vice versa. | ||
| So I get with all my coaches, like, hey, I would like to have this much work with Chris, this much work with motion and movement with Faber, pad work. | ||
| I have my uncle come out and do pad work as well. | ||
| And then I get with my strength and conditioning coach where I'm going three times a week. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Usually one heavy day, two, like, movement, footwork, you know, greasing the body. | ||
| So it's just always, like, usually on that Sunday, we're like, hey, we lay it out, boom, lay it out, lay it out. | ||
| So you lay out the whole week in advance. | ||
| So, like, when you have a heavy day, say if you have, like, a rock-up soccer robots day, the next day, do you like to do, like, yoga, stretch out, do movement, hit pads? | ||
| Like, how do you work it? | ||
| I usually go... | ||
| Sunday is kind of like a, what do you call it, like a shakeout kind of workout. | ||
| Active rest. | ||
| Active rest where you're moving, doing footwork. | ||
| Active recovery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't feel like garbage on Monday. | ||
| Monday we hit it hard, usually morning practice or pad works in the afternoon and then jiu-jitsu. | ||
| So it's usually three on Mondays. | ||
| Tuesdays I usually just wrestle and maybe do some pad work because I like to kind of be rested for sparring because sparring is a lot. | ||
| Sparring on Wednesday. | ||
| And then I'll usually do a strength conditioning workout after sparring. | ||
| And on Thursday is usually my like no impact day. | ||
| I usually kind of like, it's wrestling. | ||
| Sometimes I'll go in there and just wrestle. | ||
| If I feel good, I'll drill. | ||
| I won't go live. | ||
| And then I'll do like yoga or more of my hyperbaric chambers. | ||
| I like to go towards the end of the week after the sparring because Fridays It's an MMA practice, so it's like everything. | ||
| You're doing the sparring, MMA, you're doing the grappling. | ||
| So is this trial and error that's led you to this schedule that gives you the thought to take Thursday light and then go hard on Friday, Monday hard, Sunday light? | ||
| Yeah, this is what has worked for me. | ||
| As I said, I came out here, literally I was in, I was doing... | ||
| My own strength and conditioning before I came out to Team Alpha Male, and I was hitting pads with my uncle, and I'd go in and spar. | ||
| I wouldn't even MMA spar, I would do boxing with takedowns. | ||
| That's all we would do, because a lot of the boxers I was with wrestled, you know what I mean? | ||
| So we would just do either boxing or wrestling, so the boxers didn't want kicked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we're just doing that. | ||
| I get my work and I was working with Paul Spataphora, a lot of these boxers in Cleveland and Pittsburgh. | ||
| And I finally came out here and these guys had it like, man. | ||
| A system. | ||
| A system, like a wrestling system. | ||
| That's why I do so well because they do the drilling. | ||
| You start out with this. | ||
| We're going to go wrestling and then we're going to go in the clinch, you know, back to strikes, fit-ins, like it goes from this. | ||
| It's structure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I didn't, I never knew any of that. | ||
| Like first time I really trained jiu-jitsu was out here. | ||
| Learning it and blending it together. | ||
| Like I said, I was a good athlete, good wrestler, good fighter, good boxer. | ||
| But I found my own style here with going and doing... | ||
| Really, the first year that I was here, I was just training. | ||
| I was in the gym all the time. | ||
| He actually told me, he's like, bro, this is like a little... | ||
| We had to tone it back a little bit, which, like I said, we have... | ||
| This team was built on overtraining. | ||
| It was like, I didn't take a vacation for seven years... | ||
| I mean I never took vacations growing up. | ||
| Either we didn't have money. | ||
| It wasn't like something that we did. | ||
| So I'm not like used to like, oh, we're taking a vacation. | ||
| But like seven years I didn't take a vacation. | ||
| And so it was like this grind, grind, grind and everybody's kind of keeping up. | ||
| And we've shifted and gotten smarter and had more input and et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| But the bottom line for me is this. | ||
| We have a lot of advisors. | ||
| Sage Northcutt is a great example. | ||
| He'll listen to whoever is talking to him and people want to talk to him all the time and tell him what to do. | ||
| There's an advisory. | ||
| We say, hey, this is the coaches and I think that you need to do this and we need to do that. | ||
| But you have to be, especially at a high level like this, you have to be a thermometer for your own stuff as well. | ||
| So we have set practices throughout the day, but if you're feeling way too beat up, Because we're not worried about guys not showing up to practice because they're lazy. | ||
| We have the best athletes in the world with the right mentality. | ||
| We trust that the mentality and the purpose is there and right. | ||
| So if you're feeling too much, you've got to let us know and we'll take a little back and do it there. | ||
| And so this is kind of what we found for... | ||
| Now, when you're scheduling everything yourself, there's two schools of thought on that. | ||
| There's one school of thought that says someone should be overseeing everything for you so you don't have to think about shit. | ||
| We're not telling you what to do. | ||
| Scheduling is one thing, but once you're scheduling, he's scheduling something with a coach. | ||
| He's got a strength and conditioning and a physical therapist that are taking that part of his thing. | ||
| He's got us as head coaches overlooking... | ||
| Saying, hey, we need to make sure that you're getting your, you know, this in. | ||
| But there's coaches every single time for that. | ||
| It's not like you're just on your own doing your shit. | ||
| Of course, right. | ||
| Some people do do it that way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some people like to do everything on their own, which is interesting, too. | ||
| And some people just like to be told what to do. | ||
| Right, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, just, here, you're gonna do this. | ||
| Exactly, yeah. | ||
| But that goes away once somebody fucks you up, you know what I mean? | ||
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| That's, like, my Australian conditioning coaches, PT coaches, With my MMA coaches, they're all in coordinates. | ||
| Like, hey, we went heavy with this. | ||
| We should ease back this. | ||
| Maybe do this many rounds. | ||
| But that's just started doing that. | ||
| I think for the cruise fight, the first time I wore a heart rate monitor and trying to track where my heart rate was at. | ||
| I was getting up high in the 180s and then trying to bring it back down. | ||
| That's the first time I've ever done that. | ||
| So when you're doing that, are you doing that for strength and conditioning or are you doing that holding pads? | ||
| That was literally, we would throw for 90 seconds, we would throw... | ||
| We'd do it for six rounds. | ||
| I would throw the same combo. | ||
| We had three or four different combos that we'd throw for 90 seconds and just keep the input up. | ||
| So it's just ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-boom. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be a four or five punch combo and finish with the kick or whatever the combo was. | ||
| So your heart rates get jacked and then you wait until it gets down to what before you go again? | ||
| And then I think you would... | ||
| Like 140 or something? | ||
| I was getting it down, I think, lower than that. | ||
| And then you go again. | ||
| Yeah, so we do that. | ||
| How much time are you giving yourself in the recovery times? | ||
| In between rounds? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like to do 45 seconds, because you think, middle thing, I'm going 45 seconds, I got another 15 seconds of, you know. | ||
| Recovery, right. | ||
| Yeah, usually you feel good at 30, like, oh, I'm good, I got 30 more seconds, now you put it to 45, and it's like, in the fight, you're like, well... | ||
| Because that minute goes fast as hell. | ||
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Right. | |
| So you're talking to your coaches, you might have got your bell rung, getting stitched, or your eyes fixed, and then you're back up there. | ||
| So it's... | ||
| I like to keep it up for 45 seconds and just keep going. | ||
| Now here you are, you're 25, right? | ||
| 26 now. | ||
| 26. Champion of the world. | ||
| When you look at your future, you look at your potential future in the sport, I mean, you could be a gigantic fucking superstar. | ||
| The world is your oyster, right? | ||
| How do you plan on, do you have this sort of master plan for your career? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| My goal was so long to be the world champion, and I grinded towards it. | ||
| I had that goal. | ||
| I got that goal. | ||
| I accomplished that. | ||
| And then it was, boom, right into the ultimate fighter. | ||
| Boom, injury. | ||
| Boom, fight postponed. | ||
| So I was like, I haven't been able to really, really sit down. | ||
| Because I was like, well, you know, when you're in training, you're focused on something. | ||
| For me, I'm a creature of habit. | ||
| I like routine. | ||
| So we have just recently now sat down, and we've said about it, you know, Everyone can win the champion. | ||
| Everyone can be a world title. | ||
| It's what you do with the title. | ||
| Now I've set these goals to build my legacy, you know, to start going on. | ||
| And who knows? | ||
| Who knows what could happen in a year or so? | ||
| Like I said, I didn't think I was going to be injured. | ||
| You know, I never thought I'd be out this long. | ||
| This is the most trying time of my life because I couldn't do something that I love to do. | ||
| I've been in pain and injured. | ||
| How long have you been injured for? | ||
| Man, it's been years. | ||
| Since junior year, I started having back problems from football. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Fucking football. | ||
| On and off, yeah. | ||
| Fucking football. | ||
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Damn, fuck football. | |
| So my uncle says all the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| Is that damn foosball? | ||
| And so I've dealt with it, but progressively it was the Henry Brionis fight was the fight that I almost pulled out of that fight. | ||
| It was the first fight I ever pulled out, besides obviously TJ had to postpone it. | ||
| I couldn't walk, but Sean Shelby gathered wind of Maddox and our story and that he wanted to walk, so I just told him and my back was like really bad then. | ||
| So that's when I really started to come on and then I didn't fight for, after the Henry fight, I didn't fight for nine months, ten months, and then I got... | ||
| The UFC kept booking me. | ||
| I fought Augusta Mendez. | ||
| I was supposed to fight other Brazilian. | ||
| Lineker. | ||
| He got sick the week of the fight. | ||
| Replacement. | ||
| And then fought him. | ||
| Then Almeida. | ||
| And then it was Mizugaki. | ||
| Then it was Cruz. | ||
| So I didn't have time to be like, really... | ||
| I just dealt with the pain. | ||
| Like, there was times where I would take two weeks off of, like, really training, doing anything. | ||
| Or it would switch sides. | ||
| It would be my left side or my right side. | ||
| So I would go Southpaw until that side started messing up. | ||
| And I'd switch back to Orthodox. | ||
| Like, it was a lot of, like... | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Working around it. | ||
| Working around it because I had to. | ||
| You went to Germany, right? | ||
| For that Regenikine procedure? | ||
| And how did that go? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It felt good. | ||
| I felt like it took the, you know... | ||
| Inflammation. | ||
| Inflammation away, so it stopped, like, locking up and sending the shocks down my leg. | ||
| But still, I've been doing rehab since then. | ||
| I've been doing rehab Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. | ||
| And obviously, on Tuesday, Thursday, I do my lifting. | ||
| So I've been doing rehab and getting to become... | ||
| I feel like a better athlete. | ||
| I'm moving more. | ||
| But still, it's like... | ||
| From being constantly in a wrestling stance or a boxing stance, being like that, now I've re-pried myself open and the muscles around it are still... | ||
| I just had a little scare a couple weeks ago. | ||
| We're good, we're moving on from that. | ||
| I feel way better. | ||
| My back feels way stronger. | ||
| I wasn't able to fight July 8th. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| We try to get optimistic about it, going to Germany and thinking that it was going to heal. | ||
| Miracle. | ||
| Yeah, miracle shots. | ||
| Well, it maybe would have been if you took more time off. | ||
| More time off. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| It's like you're a pro athlete, so you're not just having these procedures and then taking a long time to recover. | ||
| You're having these procedures and then trying to get back to training pretty quick. | ||
| Literally, I had that fight, so I was literally seven weeks out from when I had the first stem cell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're like, take a month off, take four weeks off, and then two weeks of trying to... | ||
| So that leaves me with a week and a half to train for my title fight. | ||
| You guys understand that? | ||
| Yeah, that's insane. | ||
| That doesn't even make sense. | ||
| So you're October 7th is the fight, right? | ||
| November 4th. | ||
| November 4th. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Madison Square. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Why the fuck did I think... | ||
| Okay, that makes it interesting. | ||
| It was rumored, I guess. | ||
| I mean, I got hit by a couple of news outlets I was fighting in October. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Yeah, that's the Vegas. | ||
| That's the Vegas card. | ||
| Who's on that card? | ||
| Kevin Lee, I think. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Tony Ferguson, Kevin Lee for the interim 155-pound title. | ||
| That whole interim thing is so crazy, right? | ||
| They just sort of randomly decide when they're going to have interim titles. | ||
| How they do that. | ||
| Remember, Dominic Cruz had it for a long time, and they let him keep it for a long time. | ||
| And there's some guys, they're just like, alright, you're done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I was with the whole thing. | ||
| I said, I'm not rushing back. | ||
| If you guys want to make an interim title or take the title from me, that's fine. | ||
| I'm 25 years old. | ||
| I'm going to get the title back. | ||
| I got it here. | ||
| I'm going to get it back if that were to happen. | ||
| So I didn't want anyone to sit. | ||
| TJ wanted to go down and fight DJ because that was my thing. | ||
| I texted Sean and Danny because I can make 25. That was my whole... | ||
| Game plan was to fight TJ July 8th, and I got her pulled out, and then I was going to fight DJ in Madison Square Garden. | ||
| So I was always in my mind I was going to fight in November in Madison Square Garden. | ||
| It's just a different opponent. | ||
| Well, somebody's got to fight DJ. I was kind of bummed out that Demetrius decided not to fight TJ. I thought that would be an interesting fight. | ||
| I never even knew that was an option, just to be like, I'm not going to fight DJ. Well, he said, and I guess his mindset is that he's one fight away from breaking the record of the most title defenses ever. | ||
| And if TJ went down... | ||
| At being able to beat up anyone in the world in your weight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which is the important thing to think about there. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| But if he lost to TJ and TJ didn't make the weight, it would fuck him up. | ||
| Like, if TJ decided not to... | ||
| If he couldn't make the weight... | ||
| It's a lot of ifs. | ||
| It's a lot of ifs. | ||
| Yeah, it's a lot of ifs. | ||
| So he wanted TJ to fight one time at 125. Oh, to make sure he can make the weight. | ||
| Make sure he can make the weight. | ||
| Oh, that makes sense. | ||
| And then fight him. | ||
| I guess it makes sense, but the other thought process is you're the pound-for-pound best fighter on the planet. | ||
| You should be fighting the best fight that you can get. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's a really good fight. | ||
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| It's like no one's... | ||
| Floyd didn't make sure Conor McGregor could make the weight. | ||
| They just booked the fight and relied on him as a professional. | ||
| How about when Jon Jones wouldn't fight Shale, though? | ||
| That's because he hated Shale, though. | ||
| Part of it was like, fuck this guy. | ||
| This guy might have a possibility of beating me. | ||
| He goes, no, I'll do this through a real camp. | ||
| He goes, I'm not going to come in here and take this on short notice. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| He took the OSP fight on short notice and it wasn't his best fight. | ||
| He sort of prides himself on having a long game plan. | ||
| That's his mentality too, obviously. | ||
| Man, this whole thing is so depressing with John. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| Apparently we're going to find out soon what's going to happen with the B sample. | ||
| But if the B sample tests positive as well, he's kind of doomed. | ||
| This is not much to do. | ||
| Dumed to what though? | ||
| Four years? | ||
| Four years. | ||
| Four years. | ||
| I believe, I mean obviously I'm not the fucking athletic commissioner, USADA or whoever calls it out, but I think the first one was what? | ||
| Well the first one was an out of competition, no the first one was a tainted supplement and they gave him a year, right? | ||
| Didn't they give him a year? | ||
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Yep. | |
| For the dick pills? | ||
| Was it really dick pills what it was? | ||
| Yeah, they tested the pills. | ||
| Wasn't there some sort of estrogen blocker or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, they put those in these gas station dick pills. | ||
| Yeah, because they make you excited. | ||
| They block your estrogen, fill you up with... | ||
| I mean, look, they could put whatever the fuck they want in those things. | ||
| They're just trying to get your dick hard. | ||
| They're not thinking that a world class... | ||
| World champion professional athlete is taking these. | ||
| Gonna go into 7-eleven and get some dick pills. | ||
| He's a maniac. | ||
| But don't you think, though, I mean, this is what I've always said, that world-class fighters, like professional fighters, are not like any other athlete, because they're fucking reckless. | ||
| They're wild motherfuckers, like Cowboy, like you, like a lot of guys. | ||
| They are impulsive, reckless, risk-taking people. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I guess that's... | ||
| Disciplined. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I mean, professional for sure. | ||
| He's a Cali kid. | ||
| You're definitely different. | ||
| But there's a lot of different guys in the sport that have different personalities. | ||
| But a lot of fighters, it's a big percentage that are wild. | ||
| And John's fucking wild. | ||
| If you want to get a wild motherfucker like John who opens up his fight at 23 years old fighting Shogun for the world title with a flying knee against Shogun. | ||
| I mean, that's how you open the fight. | ||
| That's a wild, impulsive dude. | ||
| He just feels it and goes with it. | ||
| Flow state, yeah. | ||
| And feels like popping them gas station dick pills. | ||
| Just like, let's just do this. | ||
| He's redlining it all the time. | ||
| There's no like... | ||
| Yeah, he's redlining. | ||
| Well, I mean, he had all the excuses. | ||
| You know, the cocaine was just partying, the dick pills, that's more the same. | ||
| Now this one, though, is a different thing. | ||
| This is an actual... | ||
| What's he saying? | ||
| He's not saying anything. | ||
| No one's saying anything. | ||
| There's no official statement. | ||
| Talk to my lawyer. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they're saying they didn't do anything. | ||
| You know, that would be the most fucked up thing in the world if somebody slipped some shit into your water, you know, just to get you to test positive. | ||
| You've got to watch everything you fucking eat. | ||
| I mean, you always have to think. | ||
| People definitely do double-cross people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Definitely in this world. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| There's somebody who would absolutely put something tainted in your food. | ||
| All they'd have to do is sprinkle a little bit of it in a dish of food. | ||
| You wouldn't even notice it. | ||
| I mean, do you really think that's what happened? | ||
| I don't think anything. | ||
| I don't know anything. | ||
| I wonder... | ||
| I mean, that's true, though. | ||
| I mean, there's some fucking evil people out there. | ||
| That's one thing I've learned as getting older is, like, just being a nice guy, you assume everyone's nice and good, and it's like, there's some creepy, negative... | ||
| People out there, man. | ||
| It's beautiful when you find nice people because of that, though. | ||
| It balances it out. | ||
| It's like when you know people that you can trust that really are your brother, that makes it all the more... | ||
| If everybody was cool, you wouldn't necessarily appreciate cool people as much. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Cool people everywhere. | ||
| Where's all the douches? | ||
| You'd be mad. | ||
| I need an enemy. | ||
| Yeah, I need someone to hate. | ||
| I need someone to beat up. | ||
| Have you ever fought somebody that you really liked? | ||
| I fought a bunch of guys. | ||
| Who did you fight that you really liked, Uriah? | ||
| I liked Charlie Valencia, Brian Bowles, I liked Scotty Jorgensen, I liked Eddie Wineland. | ||
| So you're friends with those guys? | ||
| I liked Michael McDonald. | ||
| I was friends with all those guys. | ||
| Weird, right? | ||
| I could say probably one. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Mizugaki, just because he didn't speak English. | ||
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Right. | |
| Honestly, I was like, man, he's like... | ||
| But Cody, from the get-go, he goes, Hey, man, I know you're cool with your opponents and everything, but I like intensity. | ||
| I like fire. | ||
| People say that he's got a temper and everything. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| Yeah, he's fighting this guy. | ||
| He's getting that mentality. | ||
| That's part of what he likes. | ||
| My thing is, either you whip your ass or you whip my ass. | ||
| I'm always going to show you respect after. | ||
| Like, hey, it's good. | ||
| I remember when I got signed, I fought Marcus Brimmage. | ||
| And I don't like shaking my opponent's hand before the fight. | ||
| I never liked that. | ||
| I never liked glove-touching, any of that. | ||
| Marcus, I saw him a couple times in the hotel. | ||
| He's like, what's up, man? | ||
| I'm like, ah. | ||
| Cool, man. | ||
| Good to see you Saturday. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And I told him before weigh-ins, I was like, hey, go on stage. | ||
| I'm like, hey, I don't want to shake your hand out there. | ||
| Don't make me look like a dick. | ||
| He said, oh, that's cool. | ||
| He said, yeah, right on, man. | ||
| I said, I got respect for you. | ||
| Let's put on a show. | ||
| And I'm walking away. | ||
| I'm like, all right. | ||
| And he shook his hand out there. | ||
| And I was like, in my mind, I was like, oh. | ||
| So I shook it again. | ||
| I remember coming back to Buckles. | ||
| I was like, fuck. | ||
| He got me again with the handshake. | ||
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He probably didn't even realize his nerves and all that shit. | |
| And plus someone's coming up to you like, hey, I don't want to shake your hand. | ||
| Let's just fight it. | ||
| How about they throw Brimage against Notorious and against No Love, man? | ||
| Tough times. | ||
| It's definitely for that guy. | ||
| It's because he wears that thing. | ||
| Yeah, that's why. | ||
| You have to wear that goggles. | ||
| What is that thing you're wearing? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| You're in a video game? | ||
| The post-fight press conference, I had a lot of respect for Dominick Cruz, the way he handled that. | ||
| He had no excuses. | ||
| He took it like a man. | ||
| He was a better man. | ||
| He beat me. | ||
| I got no excuses. | ||
| There's nothing I can say. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You know, definitely. | ||
| We've had our differences and still might not... | ||
| He still has me blocked on Instagram and Twitter. | ||
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Does he? | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| No! | ||
| He went and talked shit on my wife's photo and then blocked me. | ||
| I'm like, this motherfucker. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Tell him about when you were doing the... | ||
| You were going to do an interview. | ||
| Straight up. | ||
| I'm like, you blocked me? | ||
| And Cody was trying to be cool to him doing some interview and Dom was trying to needle Cody and Cody was like... | ||
| I didn't even know what was going on, what was happening. | ||
| I was doing the Fox for the Ultimate Fighter and it was obviously Karen Bryant asked about me grabbing TJ by his throat. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, he goes. | ||
| And me and Dominic got into an altercation at weigh-ins at 207. I literally come out, I've just weighed in, I had my hands full with all the paperwork bullshit they give us and George gave me all these waters and refuel stuff. | ||
| So I come out of the door and I cross paths with Dominic who I didn't know didn't even register with him but at my peripheral I catch something and I kind of like turn back around and he was like had these chick sunglasses on like these big chick sunglasses yeah and his hood up and he was like get out of you skinny little motherfucker and I was like Well, I was like, dude, we're fighting tomorrow, man. | ||
| I was like, it's so good. | ||
| I was just laughing, like, really? | ||
| Like, he wants to do it now? | ||
| But it was the first time we saw each other. | ||
| And the day before, we were in this split room, this much, and we're talking shit to each other on a camera. | ||
| I'm like, we can't do, like, sit down, obviously, like that. | ||
| And he has Jeremy Stevens in there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I'm like, man, you got... | ||
| And Stevens is like, yeah, little boy, like, talking, like, just riding off Dom's hype, or off Dom. | ||
| Like, he brought in a self-proclaimed... | ||
| Savage and Jeremy Stevens, the counterbalance that I was portraying to be a savage. | ||
| That's what he kept saying. | ||
| I was like, I'll come over and smack both of you guys right now. | ||
| I took my earpiece off, I ran through the security, and then he was saying I was throwing shit. | ||
| It is the whole buildup. | ||
| So we finally saw each other. | ||
| And I was like, man, I was like, be in your ass tomorrow, like, walking off, like, I'm just hiding. | ||
| And I see Jeremy Stevens right out here. | ||
| He's like, all puffed up. | ||
| He's like, you're too small, little dude. | ||
| He's like, give me one of your teammates. | ||
| And I was like, dropped all my shit and get ready to hit him like that. | ||
| And Ali, my manager, comes out of nowhere, swoops Jeremy up. | ||
| But he grabbed me, like, he, like, scratched my neck, had a big old scratch on it from his nail, his little bitch nail. | ||
| And, like... | ||
| So it was that, and then that whole conflict. | ||
| So he gets on Skype, or not Skype, Fox Sports. | ||
| Cody's about to do an interview on Skype. | ||
| Interview about the situation of tough. | ||
| Karen Bryant asked that, and he goes, he's like, he's just a little dick. | ||
| You know, he just, you know, whatever. | ||
| Respect him for what he did, because he knows that. | ||
| I always said that. | ||
| He knew what he had to do in that media for people not to hate him. | ||
| You know, look how Connor and... | ||
| And Rousey, sometimes a little change a little bit after he lost. | ||
| He took us humble pie and, hey, respect him for that. | ||
| But I knew deep down that it wasn't all the cherries. | ||
| He's got some turmoil in there. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| I danced all over his ass. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He's a great fighter. | ||
| I embarrassed him. | ||
| Be honest. | ||
| How did it really go? | ||
| Oh, so I come on and I'm completely cool. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| I respect him. | ||
| Like, hey, hats off. | ||
| Tough, tough dude. | ||
| We talked after. | ||
| I was like, hey, that guy's tough. | ||
| Like, I've been pictured in this. | ||
| And we come on and he's like, hey, you're getting joined by Dominic. | ||
| I'm like, oh, cool. | ||
| Like, That's cool. | ||
| It has to be brief that we're professionals. | ||
| So he goes on about that. | ||
| He's like, yeah, you ever been choked up at weigh-ins? | ||
| And if so, what would you do? | ||
| And I'm really thinking about this. | ||
| I'm like, well, hopefully I'll be professional enough to keep my composure and know that I'm going to whoop this dude's ass tomorrow. | ||
| And he's like, huh. | ||
| Like, just being a smartass on there. | ||
| He's like, huh? | ||
| He's like, so you didn't mean to tell me you'd never been choked up and then it dawned on me. | ||
| And I was like, oh, are you talking about when you brought your self-proclaimed hype man in and scratched my neck with his little bitch nail? | ||
| And he's like, no, no. | ||
| And I was like, hey, Dominic. | ||
| I said, what happened in the fight? | ||
| I said, I danced around you and beat your ass and made you look like a fool. | ||
| I said, sit behind the desk and shut up. | ||
| And then it was like... | ||
| This doesn't go on Skype. | ||
| This is all just a private conversation. | ||
| Private conversation. | ||
| It goes black screen. | ||
| The producers come on. | ||
| We're like, we're sorry how Dominic was acting. | ||
| I'm like, dude, I don't mind coming on here and doing this shit. | ||
| But the first thing I said, hey, Dominic, how are you? | ||
| And I was like, oh, I was just waiting for Dominic to say hi. | ||
| And he started off and he goes, I don't gotta say hi to you. | ||
| I'm talking to you in a couple minutes. | ||
| And I was like, what a fucking bitch. | ||
| Well, you guys are probably gonna fight again if Dom stays in the game. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So we had to redo the whole situation again. | ||
| And he was just sitting there like, you know, because they were like, we're telling you. | ||
| I was like, man, that's cool. | ||
| So that's why I wanted the rematch with him. | ||
| So honestly, TJ should thank Dom for not taking the rematch and finally getting his shot. | ||
| So that's why after the fight I said, TJ, come try me. | ||
| What's Dom doing these days? | ||
| You know, I know he has plantar fasciitis. | ||
| He's got some serious issues with his feet because he came back real quick after the knee surgery and maybe pushed it a little too hard. | ||
| That's a tough one. | ||
| I mean, that's why his feet were all taped up. | ||
| He's doing a lot of commentary. | ||
| When you fought TJ. He's probably getting decent money for that. | ||
| I talked to his coach. | ||
| They're going to try to get... | ||
| Me and TJ wasn't scheduled. | ||
| But he was trying to fight on the same card or a roundabout. | ||
| So it keeps in the transition. | ||
| Who do you think would be a good fight for him to fight? | ||
| For Dominic? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| What about Rivera? | ||
| Very good fight. | ||
| That's a very good fight. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| Doesn't Jimmy have a fight? | ||
| He just fought. | ||
| He just beat the dude that you knocked out. | ||
| Oh, he fought Almeida. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He beat Almeida. | ||
| I think he dropped him a couple times. | ||
| That was a good fight. | ||
| That was a very good fight. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He beat Almeida, but I feel like he has another fight lined up. | ||
| Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| Maybe it was that fight I'm thinking of. | ||
| The day before the fight, like hype before the fight is always so interesting, man. | ||
| See how people react. | ||
| See where their head's at. | ||
| Like when Conor came out with a hard-on against Floyd... | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| Is he fucking wearing a rubber band around his dick and balls just to get it hard? | ||
| Or is he playing with himself before he gets out there? | ||
| A couple shakes before he gets on. | ||
| Because his fucking dick was half hard, but he's standing there. | ||
| Unless he has a giant hog, and that's just what it looks like when it's limp. | ||
| But it literally looked like it was half hard when he's standing there at the weigh-in. | ||
| I heard that that's something that happens. | ||
| I've seen a couple other guys. | ||
| I think Miguel... | ||
| Just staring at dicks at Wayans. | ||
| A couple other guys had that same thing. | ||
| I think it's like an involuntary thing that happens when you're hungry or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'll tell you what, when I'm hungry and starving... | ||
| It's like a survival. | ||
| We have to get real creative on the physical anthropology of why you get a hard-up when you're about to get in a confrontation. | ||
| Maybe you're going to fight over a female out in the nature. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It was such a weird confrontation, too, with Connor screaming and yelling at him and Floyd just standing there. | ||
| Literally, like, not a worry in the world. | ||
| It was interesting how Floyd handled it. | ||
| He didn't have a worry in the world. | ||
| We're seeing that. | ||
| It's the guy who's composed. | ||
| He's so composed. | ||
| 50-0, man. | ||
| 50-0. | ||
| I'd say that he was the only guy to ever reach that and break that record, but apparently there was some other guy that had fought in a really light weight that made 51-0. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, that I didn't even know. | ||
| I always thought that Rocky Marciano was the record. | ||
| Oh, Rocky Marciano. | ||
| I always thought that was the record. | ||
| What about Chavez? | ||
| Wasn't he like up there before he got defeated? | ||
| It's a good question, but he didn't retire with it. | ||
| He didn't retire and defeat it, right? | ||
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I wonder. | |
| I think it was like six years. | ||
| Yeah, Ricardo Lopez. | ||
| Yeah, he was an Adam weight, I think. | ||
| What weight was he? | ||
| Does it say? | ||
| 21. Light flyweight, yeah. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| What is light flyweight? | ||
| Minimum weight. | ||
| Jesus, minimum weight. | ||
| What the fuck is minimum weight? | ||
| But Ricardo Lopez, I believe he retired at 51-0. | ||
| Oh, he retired. | ||
| Somewhere around that range, does it say? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, we had a draw. | ||
| 51 wins, zero losses in one draw. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The one draw. | ||
| Yeah, the one draw. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| People worry about that shit. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's one thing about MMA fighters as opposed to boxers. | ||
| Like with a boxer, it was always undefeated record. | ||
| That's such a big selling point in the culture. | ||
| But he has three draws. | ||
| I mean, I guess it makes sense, though, because, I mean, you're trying to make a case that no one could, you know... | ||
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Sure. | |
| There's something intriguing about something that no one could ever beat this person. | ||
| But the difference between MMA and boxing, though, is in MMA you're tested way more on your way up to the title. | ||
| And you're fighting world-class fighters pretty quickly as soon as you start getting... | ||
| Zero, yeah. | ||
| Whereas in boxing, you're taken care of, and your record gets padded, and you're slowly worked up to a world-class fighter if you have a good manager. | ||
| Maybe 15 to 20 fights and you're trying to maybe start fighting some okay people, especially with you getting pushed. | ||
| Do you think that that's the way to do it? | ||
| No. | ||
| With those guys, no. | ||
| Because a lot of those boxers have had three, four hundred amateur fights where they fought. | ||
| They don't need groomed into that. | ||
| Maybe to get out of the shoe-shining amateur style, but amateur style is switching with the headgear getting taken away. | ||
| It's set up in the point system how it's changing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With the Olympics, you know, taking the headgear off and how they're changing all that. | ||
| So they're becoming more professional, setting stuff up, not that, you know, pitter-patter shit, shoeshine. | ||
| You know, that's how it's been. | ||
| But I don't think they need to be like that. | ||
| But I think in boxing, there's huge records. | ||
| Like, oh, you know, he's 37-0, it's 28 knockouts. | ||
| It's a weird gig. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I guess the difference with the UFC is UFC's always had a reputation of putting the best fighters against the best fighters. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which I think has gone away a little bit. | ||
| I mean, they still make sure you got tested. | ||
| Do you think it's gone away? | ||
| I don't think it's gone away. | ||
| I think what they try to do is have even matchups. | ||
| Because there's... | ||
| Like a... | ||
| But Ricci and Alvarez, for example, they just want to see that fight. | ||
| They're both very tough guys that could be champion. | ||
| You mean Gaethje and Alvarez? | ||
| Yeah, but they want to see matchups. | ||
| But they do that all the way down. | ||
| They're not trying to set up mismatches. | ||
| They're trying to get it more evenly matched. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that there aren't guys that they could set up with mismatches within the... | ||
| Within the thing. | ||
| Well, you rarely see a guy get a tune-up fight. | ||
| Where in boxing, it's a big deal. | ||
| Like, boxing, guys get tune-up fights, and you even call them a tune-up fight. | ||
| Like, it's getting a tune-up fight before the big match. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and they go in there and they fight a guy that's not expected to win, and then they get set up for the next fight. | ||
| But it tunes them up, gets them sharp, and then they have the world championship fight. | ||
| I mean, that happens to get into the UFC a lot, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| For me, I have over half of my professional fights are in the UFC. I got signed a 5-0. | ||
| Half of my fights have been in the UFC. UFC is obviously the primary organization with the toughest fighters. | ||
| It's not even close, but it's getting close now. | ||
| You know, when you look at what Bellator is doing, right now, UFC is always going to be the top of the food chain. | ||
| It's always like the premier organization as far as the public knows. | ||
| But as far as the quality of talent, Bellator at least finally has Rory McDonald. | ||
| You know, they finally have... | ||
| They're growing their own homegrown talent also. | ||
| They are as well. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| But, I mean, getting, you know, Gayhard Mousasi, world-class guys. | ||
| Legitimately. | ||
| With pay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Rory has a victory over Tyron Woodley and a victory over Damon Maia. | ||
| So he had a victory over the one and number two guys. | ||
| It's interesting you just mentioned Rory. | ||
| We can go back to what we were talking about with training. | ||
| Rory, I mean, that's a guy... | ||
| He's a strange character. | ||
| I wonder what's his motivation for fighting and what started him, etc. | ||
| I saw him do an interview about his training. | ||
| I talked about coaches making you do shit and you're just like, do whatever the coach says. | ||
| He was like, look, I've been doing what all the coaches say. | ||
| He's like, I keep getting hurt. | ||
| I keep doing this and that. | ||
| He goes, I'm going to take things into my own hands a little bit more. | ||
| He's the guy that did that, but he's having a lot of friggin' success, too. | ||
| Dude, he looked like a fuckin' world killer when he beat Paul Daley. | ||
| He looked perfect. | ||
| Paul Daley's a savage, too, man. | ||
| He is. | ||
| That's gonna be an interesting fight. | ||
| Paul Daley and Lorenz Larkin. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Explosive, dude. | ||
| That was a crazy fight. | ||
| I like Larkin's style. | ||
| Super skillful. | ||
| Larkin's no longer in the UFC? Nope. | ||
| Lorenz Larkin just fought Douglas Lima for the title. | ||
| He lost a five round decision. | ||
| Very close fight. | ||
| Very good fight. | ||
| Douglas Lima's another one. | ||
| That guy's world class. | ||
| I mean, he's right up there with anybody in the world at 170 in my opinion. | ||
| Yeah, he's been around for a while too. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what pisses me off is Ben Askren still fighting over in one FC. Like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| I am the number one guy saying... | ||
| He just retired. | ||
| Yeah, he's out of his retirement fight. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It drives me crazy. | ||
| He should have been in the UFC a long time ago. | ||
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I always wanted to see that guy fight in the UFC. He just pissed off Dana and his style was weird, right? | |
| The style was weird, that's one thing, but pissing off Dana was ultimately the end of it all. | ||
| He was talking some serious shit on Dana. | ||
| I can't help it! | ||
| Dana's like... | ||
| Yeah, it's too bad. | ||
| Now, fuck you, get out of here. | ||
| It's too bad, really. | ||
| Too bad. | ||
| How he mixed up with those guys? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| I would have loved to see that guy fight the best in the world in the UFC. You know, and we'll never know now. | ||
| It's really unfortunate. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He made some decent money over there in UFC. I hope he did. | ||
| I hope he did. | ||
| He's just a fucking phenomenal grappler, man. | ||
| I mean, here's a perfect example. | ||
| That guy destroyed Larkin on the ground. | ||
| Or it's not Larkin, Lima. | ||
| Destroyed him on the ground. | ||
| Destroyed Korshkov on the ground. | ||
| Manhandled those dudes. | ||
| Got ahold of those guys. | ||
| It was ragdolling fools. | ||
| Just throwing them around. | ||
| That unorthodox, weird wrestling style. | ||
| I wanted to see him fight the best guys. | ||
| You know who he would have been a terrible matchup for? | ||
| It was George St. Pierre. | ||
| That was interesting. | ||
| Because George always, you know, he starts hitting his nice little shots, but he always ends up getting the nice takedown. | ||
| But what's he going to do in grappling against Asker? | ||
| That would have been a good one. | ||
| That's the one I always wanted to see, too. | ||
| Well, you know, that got him in trouble with Johnny Hendricks, right? | ||
| But Johnny Hendricks was a different Johnny Hendricks back then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| Previous auto. | ||
| Dude, you saw this... | ||
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You saw this changing lives, bro. | |
| That's one of the things that makes me want to get back into it is now that USADA is in there. | ||
| I still have USADA test me just in case there's an opportunity that pops up. | ||
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Do you really? | |
| Yeah, they pop in all the time. | ||
| You look like you weigh about $1.60 right now. | ||
| What do you weigh? | ||
| $1.60. | ||
| Do you think you could get down to 135? | ||
| Fuck up anyone in the world? | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| He's still got it in there! | ||
| He'll come in and he does practices with us and teaches shit. | ||
| We'll always give him a hard time. | ||
| He's still got it. | ||
| Do you think that you're retired or are you kind of retired? | ||
| Mostly retired. | ||
| I'm retired. | ||
| I'm definitely retired, but I'm not... | ||
| First off, I love to fight. | ||
| That's the hard thing about retiring is it takes so much time, energy, and there's so much to learn that I'm definitely a better fighter When I retired than I was when I was in my prime, even. | ||
| Starting, yeah. | ||
| As far as skill set goes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there's a lot of skilled guys out there, and it's just a focus thing and a motivation thing. | ||
| So you wish that USADA was there your entire career? | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Hell, yes. | ||
| Did you ever feel any temptation when you knew that so many guys were using shit? | ||
| Dude, I had... | ||
| A couple people sit down and try to talk me into it before. | ||
| What did they try to talk you into? | ||
| Just like, hey, you know, like, everybody's doing it. | ||
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A little bit of this. | |
| A little bit of that. | ||
| A little EPO. Some dick pills. | ||
| Everybody's doing it. | ||
| Somebody had talked to me about it, and I had a coach a long time ago that was like, hey, everybody... | ||
| And I'm like, no, I don't think so. | ||
| I take a lot of pride in the fact that I had my career... | ||
| I'm oblivious. | ||
| When you're not in the circle, you're definitely not in the circle. | ||
| Yeah, they don't tell you about what they're doing. | ||
| They don't want to tell you everything else. | ||
| I take a lot of pride in the fact that I teach to my guys. | ||
| That's one of the conversations I had with Cody. | ||
| I'm like, bro... | ||
| No, we don't need any of that shit, dude. | ||
| That's all mental. | ||
| It's a mental thing. | ||
| The problem is, the difference is, when you have someone that's strong mentally, that is like a scientist on himself, and also has all the attributes, then it matters, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| When you get a guy who's a world-class fighter, and then on top of that, he takes some shit. | ||
| That's the mentality, right? | ||
| That everybody's doing it mentality is what allows champions to do it as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This champion never did it. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Alright, gents, let's wrap this bitch up. | ||
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Let's do it. | |
| Good luck, man. | ||
| Can't wait to see you. | ||
| Madison Square Garden. | ||
| That's November... | ||
| 4th. | ||
| November 4th. | ||
| It's a big fucking venue. | ||
| This is a historic venue, man. | ||
| Huge fight. | ||
| That's going to be amazing. | ||
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Fireworks. | |
| Uriah Faber. | ||
| Uriah Faber's Ultimate Fitness. | ||
| Sacramento, California. | ||
| Uriah Faber on Twitter and Instagram. | ||
| And Cody, you're on Twitter and Instagram and all that shit, too. | ||
| Thank you, gentlemen. | ||
| It was a lot of fun. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right. |
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