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Sept. 3, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 2, 2017
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brendan schaub
01:08:39
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joe rogan
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Wish we could talk about it.
brendan schaub
Me too.
That guy's body's terrible.
joe rogan
Yes, ladies and gentlemen!
I'm glad we missed that.
I hope we missed it.
unidentified
Did we miss that?
joe rogan
Whatever.
What's up, everybody?
It's Brendan Schaub and Joe Rogan, and this is the Fight Companion Lite.
It's the slimmed-down version.
Eddie Bravo is doing a jiu-jitsu seminar today in, I think, in Whittier.
And Brian Callen is in Utah.
brendan schaub
Pretending to play golf with his dad.
joe rogan
Yeah, he plays golf.
brendan schaub
And he acts like he enjoys it just to entertain his papa.
joe rogan
Does he really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's right.
brendan schaub
I think he kind of likes it, but, you know, he can't golf.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He probably just likes hanging out with his dad.
You got to do things like that.
brendan schaub
You do, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, chicks pretend to be into football so they can hang out with you.
brendan schaub
That's true.
Some actually get into it, though.
joe rogan
Some.
I'm just being offensive.
So Brian Barbarina and who's the other gentleman?
Something Edwards.
brendan schaub
Edwards.
joe rogan
Do we have a fight card, Jamie?
Can we put that shit up on the other screen?
brendan schaub
Damn, this UFC Rotterdam reminds me of UFC 100. This thing is epic.
How dare you show up late, Joe Rogan?
At least that ref's in shape.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's about as good a shape as you can get to be a ref.
Oh, it clipped.
Brian Barberin is the dude who choked out Sage Northcutt.
Very tough fighter.
Leon Edwards, that's right.
brendan schaub
Leon.
God, there's not a lot of Leons left in the world, is there?
joe rogan
That's right, man.
brendan schaub
When's the last Leon you met?
joe rogan
Dude, that was a big name in the 70s.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
You're a cool guy.
Ooh, he's got the back.
One hook.
Brian Barbarino is very good on the ground.
Interesting.
Do you see the fire, man?
See that fire last night?
brendan schaub
Where was it?
Because I woke up and my slingshot was all covered in ash.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
It's out near Burbank.
brendan schaub
Is it really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's already the biggest fire in the history of California.
Of Los Angeles, rather.
Yeah, because it's in Los Angeles County.
It's the biggest fire ever in Los Angeles County.
I think it's burned something like 5,000 acres already.
brendan schaub
And are people evacuating their homes and shit or not?
joe rogan
They were in danger.
jamie vernon
Last night they evacuated in Burbank.
Not all of Burbank, but...
joe rogan
A good chunk?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Damn, I've seen any of the news.
joe rogan
Yo, it was scary.
Coming home, looking over the highway when you see the hills on fire.
brendan schaub
Really?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Damn, that's scary.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
It's kind of close to you.
joe rogan
No, no, it's not close to me, but I can see it from some spots.
brendan schaub
Closer.
joe rogan
Closer.
It's close to Brian Redman.
He lives out there.
Look at that.
Fast-moving wildfowl.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Homes evacuated in LA and Burbank.
You know, I talked to a fireman once, man.
He fucking freaked me out.
He goes, it's just a matter of time until one day.
It burns all the way to the water.
And I went, what?
And he goes, yep, just a matter of time.
One day, oh, Brian Barber, you might get fucked here.
brendan schaub
He better stay on that opposite hand.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I was going to get his chin broke.
joe rogan
Yeah, that opposite hand's barely in there.
brendan schaub
That firefighter sounds like a drama queen.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He said, he goes, with the right combination of dry weather and the right wind.
And he goes, once it hits the buildings, we won't be able to stop it.
He goes, it'll burn all the way to the water.
No, he was an older dude that was like super stoic.
That's why it made me shit my pants.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it wasn't like some dork who likes to talk about shit.
brendan schaub
I said, shut your mouth, man.
unidentified
Have you ever seen the new papers on top?
joe rogan
Oh, shit, dude.
He's under the chin.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's in trouble now.
joe rogan
Oh.
Sideways.
He's okay.
brendan schaub
Leon's definitely doing work.
joe rogan
Yeah, Leon almost had that.
If he maintained back control there, like if he had some Marcel Garcia-style hooks, he might have got that.
brendan schaub
Back to that firefighter hating on our happiness.
joe rogan
He was scary as fuck.
All he was saying was, he goes, there's only so much we can do when a fire gets out of control with strong wind and dry ground.
This was right after, I don't know if you were around, California in 2002, I think?
Somewhere around there?
2002, 2003?
I got evacuated.
And we were coming home from Fear Factor.
We were filming out in, like, north up on the 5. And as I was coming home, for a whole hour, on the right-hand side of the car, the hills were on fire.
unidentified
That's scary.
joe rogan
A whole hour in the car, driving.
Was it currently in?
brendan schaub
Like your old house?
Like out there?
joe rogan
Yeah, no, but I'm just saying on the way home from like Tohon, you know, like Tohon Ranch, like out there.
unidentified
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
The whole right side of the highway was on fire for an hour.
That's how much was on fire.
I'm talking like 50 miles of shit on fire.
Like I've never seen anything like it in my life.
And when I was talking, I mean, it was like Lord of the Rings type shit.
It was crazy.
brendan schaub
Scary.
joe rogan
All the hills were on fire.
I mean, everywhere to the right-hand side and everywhere you go, it was like snow foam with ash.
Saw a dead guy.
So a dude got hit by a car.
He was trying to run across the road.
brendan schaub
Ain't that a bitch?
joe rogan
And he got clipped.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
There's a fire, and you're like, ah, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, we saw this dude laid out with his sneaker off, and I was like, oh, no.
brendan schaub
What kind of sneaker was it?
Rebug?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
brendan schaub
God.
joe rogan
You would know.
brendan schaub
I would know, but goddamn, are those Yeezys?
unidentified
Pumas?
brendan schaub
Are those Pumas?
13s.
unidentified
Those are 13s.
joe rogan
You imagine, like, God, they look fresh.
Damn, are these new zebras?
brendan schaub
Yeezys?
I'm going to grab them.
joe rogan
That's what they did in the old west days.
brendan schaub
Hopefully they're not birdies.
Hopefully they're not birdies.
joe rogan
He wasn't close enough to the fire.
He was just on the highway, but I think you know people panic both the driver and the fire Can you imagine could there be a worse way to go burned alive?
brendan schaub
Like I was watching Game of Thrones.
I'm on season five now when they burn Homeboy.
joe rogan
Don't say anything.
Spoiler alert.
brendan schaub
It's been out way too long.
unidentified
Spoiler alert.
brendan schaub
Oh, come on.
joe rogan
It's the best show ever.
brendan schaub
Ever.
unidentified
Ever.
joe rogan
It gets better.
brendan schaub
Season seven.
joe rogan
The way season seven ends, you're going to be like, when the last episode's over and it goes to black, you're going to go, no!
brendan schaub
Dude.
I make myself a little drink.
joe rogan
It's such a good show.
brendan schaub
It's so good.
It's one season five.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so good.
brendan schaub
The new Narcos started and I just, I can't do it, man.
I'm crushing hard on Game of Thrones, so I don't want to, like, cheat on and watch Narcos.
joe rogan
I had an abandoned Narcos second season.
Why?
Well, unless I want to watch it by myself.
My wife was like, too many people getting shot.
brendan schaub
Too many people are getting shot.
It's cartel shit.
joe rogan
Too much murder.
brendan schaub
But she's cool with Game of Thrones?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's fake.
brendan schaub
No, man!
I mean, the only thing fake are the dragons.
Everything else is pretty legit.
joe rogan
It's fake, bro.
brendan schaub
Even that's up for debate.
joe rogan
You know what's badass?
Ozark.
I'm on season two.
brendan schaub
I know, he told me that I need to get on it.
joe rogan
Episode two, brother?
Episode two of Ozark?
God damn, it's good.
brendan schaub
Damn, your wife won't fuck with narcos, huh?
joe rogan
Not anymore.
brendan schaub
I can't do two shows at once.
I'm like, I don't want to, you know, like I said, I'm crushing hard on Game of Thrones.
I don't want to cheat on with narcos.
And I can only handle so much narrative.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
She barely got through season one.
In season two, there's just way too much merkin.
brendan schaub
I mean, I get it.
But it's like drug cartels.
That's what they do.
joe rogan
That's what they do.
brendan schaub
I mean, that's also real life.
joe rogan
That's real life.
I wonder how much they embellished.
brendan schaub
Not much.
You know, if you look at the history books with...
joe rogan
Well, he was definitely a bad guy.
brendan schaub
Terrible person.
But you were rooting for him in Narcos 1. I was like, damn, I hope he gets out.
joe rogan
I like his posture.
brendan schaub
Just didn't give a fuck.
unidentified
Smoking weed.
joe rogan
He gives zero fucks.
brendan schaub
Zero.
You're so rich.
And just hooking up with chicks nonstop.
joe rogan
How about when they blew up the federal building?
Or whatever the fuck it is.
brendan schaub
How about when they blew up the plane?
He just blew up the plane and fucked everybody.
Fuck it.
joe rogan
Fuck it.
brendan schaub
And then he ran for, what did he run for?
Governor?
joe rogan
Something like that.
brendan schaub
And just started killing everyone?
Yeah.
I think he's Brazilian.
The guy plays him?
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's fucking good.
brendan schaub
He's good, right?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
And the new season's about the Cali cartel, right?
unidentified
Oh man, I don't even want to know.
joe rogan
I just feel bad that they're not going to keep Pablo Escobar around.
They need to go have a prequel.
You know what they do with Star Wars?
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, I'm about that.
I always said jump on into that El Chapo life.
Look at Mr. Steal Your Girl face there.
unidentified
Look at Would you like a mansion?
joe rogan
That dude had so much money he had to bury it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he was losing money because the rats were fucking with the money.
joe rogan
We're eating his money, like a million dollars a year.
unidentified
Straight up!
brendan schaub
That's how rich you are when rats are fucking up your funds.
joe rogan
And you don't give a fuck!
He was making too much money, like literally.
He had hippos and shit?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'd fly him out there and just watch them attack each other and shit.
But then he was like a great dad.
Did you see that documentary on his son?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
He had to change his name?
unidentified
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because his last name was Escobar and he's like apologizing for his dad.
joe rogan
Hey, what are you going to do?
brendan schaub
For sure, just fucking own it, make Pablo Escobar t-shirts and sell the shit out of him.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if your dad was Pablo Escobar?
Yeah, I can't be sad.
brendan schaub
You're fucking right, I can.
joe rogan
Your dad's blowing up airplanes and shit, man.
Oh!
Barbarina clipped him!
brendan schaub
Oh, get up, Leon!
joe rogan
Leon's in trouble.
brendan schaub
God damn it, Leon.
That ref is anxious.
joe rogan
You gotta move, Leon.
You gotta get that hand up.
You gotta move.
brendan schaub
The ref's out of shape, too, so he likes to get there early.
joe rogan
Barbarina's looking for that front choke.
Alright, spins, takes the back.
Oh, Leon, you gotta move.
brendan schaub
Just keep punching so they stop it.
joe rogan
You gotta move, Leon.
brendan schaub
Oh, there you go, Leon.
joe rogan
There you go, Leon.
Why are we rooting up for Leon?
brendan schaub
Because his name's Leon.
joe rogan
I told you there's a travel advisory for Mexico.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
Freaked me out.
But they're only killing each other, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
For now.
brendan schaub
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
Occasionally they go dark.
brendan schaub
They're like, look at that, but I look Mexican, so I'm like, mmm.
joe rogan
Maybe they kill you first.
brendan schaub
Or they kidnap me, I'm like a sex slave.
unidentified
Ooh.
And it's like, Mr. Shub, we want to talk to you. - Yeah.
We love Mexico, we love Mexicans, but they're too short.
brendan schaub
They're too short.
unidentified
So we brought you in to be a sex slave.
We're going to impregnate all these beautiful women with your perfect DNA. Yeah, I'm just like a stud horse.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly, dude.
brendan schaub
Just slinging dick out there.
But you guys think I'm being tortured, but it's awesome.
joe rogan
You're just getting pussy thrown at you in a slingshot.
brendan schaub
Drugs, pussy.
You guys think I'm being tortured, but it's awesome.
joe rogan
It's just Viagra and different drugs that make you grow cum.
We have this new thing.
unidentified
It's a mixture of zinc, magnesium, and steroids.
joe rogan
And you just...
Loads are just building up in your balls.
brendan schaub
But I gotta make videos?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Gotta make porn.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
No, I make videos like being mad at America and Trump and shit, but you guys can tell I'm happy as fuck, but I'm jacked from all the steroids.
joe rogan
Yeah, and girls are like pulling on you, and you're like, stop, stop, stop.
brendan schaub
Please, not now.
joe rogan
I gotta say, this wall is fucked up, and it's the reason why I'm stuck here.
Come on, get off me.
brendan schaub
Please.
unidentified
I gotta make a video.
brendan schaub
Please, please, bitch.
unidentified
One second.
brendan schaub
God damn it.
joe rogan
They're clawing at you, and you just roid it up.
brendan schaub
You see just a bunch of supplements in the back and healthy food.
joe rogan
As you're on TV, the tip of your dick peeks up to the camera, and you gotta push it down.
unidentified
You're on these supercars.
brendan schaub
Peeked up like a fucking telescope.
joe rogan
It's like you're framed in, like the nipples up, and Dick's like, uh-oh.
unidentified
It's off.
joe rogan
Like the chestburster in Alien 1. Oh my god, it's ridiculous.
All you see is like fucking painted red fingernails pulling on you.
America's fucked up with that wall.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you guys, they're not going to ease up on me either.
joe rogan
And you're not going to make Mexico pay for this wall, Mr. Trump.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Senor Trump.
brendan schaub
Senor Trump.
Oh, it's just the time of my life.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I can seal team six when it comes to save me.
unidentified
God damn it, boys!
brendan schaub
No, boys, please, please.
joe rogan
Listen, stick around for a while.
brendan schaub
Come on, man.
joe rogan
They're grilling you steaks.
I want to make sure you're fully fed.
unidentified
Grilling you steaks and just killing it.
joe rogan
You're just making babies.
It's like the opposite of when a Viking comes to town.
unidentified
They want to recruit their own Viking just to dick all the girls down.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, for real.
If you were that dude, like, the mountain, you know, that mountain guy from Game of Thrones?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I guarantee that guy could sell his cum.
brendan schaub
This is the thing, though.
Have you seen him?
I hear you.
Have you seen him before he fucking took all the juice?
He was a basketball player.
He was skinny as fuck.
His genes aren't that great.
It's the juice.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, bring that up.
Bring that shit up, Jamie, if you can.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was a basketball player.
Look at him.
Then look at him now.
Like, he was like a giant basketball player.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, but what is he, like 17 there?
How old is he?
brendan schaub
Nah, that bitch is, he's 30 there.
joe rogan
That's real, Jamie.
You're right.
But is there any other pictures of him?
brendan schaub
Look, 20, then 25 on the right.
Look at that little bitch.
joe rogan
What's going on with his eyes?
brendan schaub
Couple crazy eyes.
Like he said, his genetics aren't amazing.
joe rogan
Wow, that's crazy.
That is a strong juice appetite.
brendan schaub
Steroid, hell of a drug.
joe rogan
God damn.
Did you see that dude that just died?
Wow, Leon's got his back again, but this time you learn from his past mistake.
brendan schaub
Oh, Leon gots it.
joe rogan
Leon got the body triangle.
unidentified
Do work, Leo.
joe rogan
He's done.
He's done.
brendan schaub
This ref just gut hanging over everybody.
joe rogan
Wow, Barbarina is so tough.
Damn.
brendan schaub
He's not worried either.
joe rogan
He doesn't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
Body lock?
joe rogan
That's a dude that knows how to train hard.
You know those dudes that can just train through nice toenails, bro?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
You're not supposed to grab the cage, sir.
Sir, stop grabbing the cage.
brendan schaub
Those toenails.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't that weird that you can't grab the cage with your toes?
That's a weird one, right?
brendan schaub
That is a strange one, and they freak out about it.
I feel like they see that more often than the hand grabs.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
But some people let it go.
Like, that guy just let it go.
Wow, Leon is still working it, man.
brendan schaub
But he's not really that close, is he?
joe rogan
He's on the chin.
Well, it depends on what kind of squeeze he's got.
If he's got one of them Damien Maia squeezes, yeah.
brendan schaub
Are you talking game over with Damien Maia on your neck like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, he just doesn't have enough power.
I mean, literally, it's like torque and power at this point.
Like, if a guy like Maya gets a hold of you, or Marcello, you know?
brendan schaub
Jacare, I'd pop your head off.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
If he gets this...
Like, kind of under your chin, and you're in this position where he's got the body lock.
Barbarina's smart, though, leaning on that one side.
brendan schaub
He's about to get out right now and turn around, watch.
He's gonna land up in guard.
joe rogan
Like, he's going to the arm.
brendan schaub
Oh, get out, bro!
joe rogan
See how Leon controlled the arm?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was very smart.
Controlled that right arm with that double wrist lock.
That's a move you hardly ever see.
The reverse arm bar?
brendan schaub
Yeah, very rare.
joe rogan
When do you ever see that one?
brendan schaub
You have to kind of be a bit of a meathead to really submit some of that.
At a high level.
joe rogan
Do you though?
Do you use like a string?
You know the last time we saw it?
Ready for this?
Hoist Gracie and Matt Hughes.
Matt Hughes got Hoist Gracie's arm in that fucking reverse double wrist lock arm bar.
I think that's how he got him, right?
brendan schaub
You'd have to surprise the shit out of somebody and some cranking power.
joe rogan
Well, Matt Hughes has just got that crazy farmer gorilla strength.
brendan schaub
How about it?
joe rogan
But also technique, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Took his back and just smashed him.
brendan schaub
How about he's doing better?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Do you see him out?
unidentified
He's actually exercising.
brendan schaub
He's going to get sushi and shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he's rolling.
He's actually rolling with his friend.
He was in his guard working.
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
I asked Pat Milchick about it, because I didn't know, and I asked him.
He was just saying how trains in Iowa, they're so far away, and if you wait for them, you're going to be there forever.
So Matt was like, fuck this, and floored his truck.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
But the gravel, it didn't go like he thought it was going to take off, and that's how he got hit by the train.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
brendan schaub
But doing better now.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, probably because he's such a gorilla.
brendan schaub
I'm sure that helps.
joe rogan
Because his body is such a phenomenal shape.
brendan schaub
Yeah, if you look like this ref, he'd be dead.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'd be over.
He'd be over.
brendan schaub
Yeah, shame.
He's just a tough son of a bitch.
joe rogan
How much do you have to know to be a ref?
brendan schaub
God, I don't feel like...
Well, there's a...
See, there's levels to this game.
There's Big John, there's Herb Dean, and then it falls off like a motherfucker.
It's kind of like the light heavyweight division.
There's like two badasses, then the rest.
joe rogan
Well, there's other really good ones.
You know who's a really good one?
Oh, shit.
So this is an interesting fight, right?
Because Leon had his back twice, two rounds in a row.
Leon came close to choking him, but didn't finish him.
brendan schaub
Leon definitely won the fight.
joe rogan
But there was that one time where Brian almost put him away.
brendan schaub
It's not 10-8, though, is it?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
What are these new rules?
When are we going to use them universally?
brendan schaub
And you're in Rotterdam.
joe rogan
Hey, we got two super important things to talk about.
unidentified
One...
joe rogan
This is this John Jones thing.
People keep saying that John Jones, because of this drug test, he did a blood test and he tested negative.
The blood test tested negative.
brendan schaub
He passed the blood test, failed the urine test.
joe rogan
But here's the thing, the blood test doesn't test for that stuff.
Correct.
I'm getting it straight from Nowitzki.
brendan schaub
Oh, you talked to the Golden Pitch?
joe rogan
The blood test, because they can talk about it because John has gone public with it.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
The blood test is not test for this t-ball stuff, whatever the fuck it's called.
But the urine test does.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
So they have two urine samples, and then the results of the urine sample, B, will be out soon.
And then we'll know 100%.
brendan schaub
That's the game changer.
And did you hear Chael Sonnen?
He said, with Toronto Ball, it's so old school.
Like, if you're going to do that, you basically, whoever's giving it to them has their black belt in, uh, This is so crazy.
How weird is this?
joe rogan
I did not think that he was a cheater.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
I thought that he was a guy who was fucking off and partying and got busted with some freak shit that's in some dick pills because they tested those dick pills.
brendan schaub
See, I never bought that narrative.
joe rogan
Here's two options, right?
Here's two options when it comes to those dick pills.
Those dick pills did have these steroids in them.
But...
Do you know that?
Why are you taking them?
Because if you just take them and you're getting steroids too.
You're getting steroids and your dick is getting hard.
brendan schaub
But not enough where it's going to be a performance.
It's such a small microdose of testosterone.
Who the fuck is in those things?
joe rogan
I think it's a clomiphene, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, whatever it is.
But...
I think John has some smart people around him.
They painted that narrative.
We're like, oh yeah, he's a partier.
He's taking dick pills.
That makes sense why you would test positive for this stuff.
When I feel like the rest of people in the know are like, uh, not really.
Why would this monster be taking...
I get it, you dick people down.
I've dicked people down in my day before, too.
I never had to fucking turn towards dick pills.
I like to party as much as the next guy.
Not Jon Jones.
There's levels to this party game.
Not Jon Jones style.
joe rogan
Well, he obviously had coke in his system, too.
He does like to party, for real.
We get that.
And then, that's what Brian Redband called it.
Because people that do coke, their dick doesn't work that good.
So then they stack it.
brendan schaub
With Viagra.
joe rogan
And I was like, really?
And he was telling me about, because Brian loves those goddamn gas station dick pills.
But he's like, they're totally inconsistent.
He's like, you'll get one, you get these raging hard-ons, you get another one, you feel like a homicidal maniac.
Like, you get crazy aggressive.
brendan schaub
See, I don't want that in my life.
You know what I'm saying?
But I never bought that narrative with John.
I didn't.
joe rogan
Well, now we know the urine test from A is positive because that's what tested for that substance in the urine.
The blood test is irrelevant.
They weren't tested.
brendan schaub
See, and then people that don't get that, you see, oh, but he passed the blood test.
You guys are full of shit.
It's like, no, no, no.
The urine is the big one here.
joe rogan
I saw his own doctor was posting that on Dr. Hightower.
I guess this is chiropractor.
brendan schaub
Chiropractor?
Doesn't count.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was posting that on Instagram.
Free John Jones.
And I was like, well, this is not smart to say.
brendan schaub
Chiropractor.
joe rogan
You're talking about the wrong substance.
The wrong test, rather.
brendan schaub
No, they just don't get it.
I think...
I don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
It's the weed, goddammit.
brendan schaub
Is it?
Or is it the fucking...
joe rogan
Definitely has to do with the weed.
The fire, too.
brendan schaub
LA's burning down.
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
Yeah, my car was covered in ash this morning.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's out there, bro.
brendan schaub
It's scary.
Yeah, but with John, you got to listen to what...
Chael had a good narrative on, I think, on MMA Hour with Ariel Hawane.
He was just saying, that's such an old-school drug.
Like, to be associated with that and despise for that.
And he was like, you know, he said the same thing.
He goes, I know a few things about...
PEDs, for God's sakes.
unidentified
Yeah, he does.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and so he was saying, that old-school drug, they're missing the good shit.
Like, he got away with a lot of other stuff.
If that's in your system, you just don't...
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, if you want a car, you're not gonna just get a fucking 64 Ferrari Daytona.
You gotta start with some other shit.
joe rogan
Take yourself a Civic.
brendan schaub
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Old Civic, yeah.
With one bad tire.
Old Civic, yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you don't jump into the gainer's levels to this, for God's sakes.
joe rogan
What do you think happened?
Uh...
I think he just got caught?
brendan schaub
Yeah, well, I'm sure you could talk to the Novitski.
When I say going snitch, that's a complimentary term.
I don't dislike the guy.
I think he's cleaning up the sport.
Anyways.
joe rogan
He is.
He's cleaning up the sport.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's going snitch.
joe rogan
That's a good thing.
Do we have any beers back there?
I would like a beer.
brendan schaub
I might mind a cold one too, man.
The world's burning down.
jamie vernon
Fresh kombucha.
joe rogan
That's not the same.
jamie vernon
I think if there is, it's really old, but I'll start.
joe rogan
Alright.
brendan schaub
New studio.
joe rogan
We've got to make sure we have fucking beer on here.
brendan schaub
Let's get some kegs going.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about.
brendan schaub
Get a couple.
joe rogan
There was a funny picture that somebody put on Instagram, a meme of two giraffes going at it, and they're like, this is Struve.
brendan schaub
They are huge, man.
joe rogan
They're giant.
brendan schaub
They are fucking huge.
joe rogan
Is this the first time?
Oh, is this the Fight Pass Contender Series?
I hear there's been very good fights.
brendan schaub
Yeah, people dig it.
joe rogan
Powerful Kat Singano.
brendan schaub
Oh, powerful Kat Singano.
joe rogan
So talled up.
brendan schaub
For sure, fight again.
joe rogan
Um, I think she was saying that she was having some, like, some head issues.
brendan schaub
Wait, yeah.
She's talking about it right now, or she's talking about what's going on right now?
unidentified
I don't know, Jamie's in the other room, Vietnam's beer.
brendan schaub
Goddammit, Jamie.
Uh, she's probably talking about it.
joe rogan
What is she talking about?
brendan schaub
She wanted to fight- Crank this up, Jamie.
Ooh, I'm not mad at that, Jamie.
Tight move.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Crank this up so we can hear what she's talking about.
Kat Zingano, fightography.
Oh, it's her fightography.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's like a documentary.
Well, I'll watch it.
joe rogan
Uh-oh, GSP, crank this.
brendan schaub
He's big right now.
I saw him in Vegas.
Thicker than a Snickers.
joe rogan
Yeah, he does look pretty thick.
But he's got to be.
brendan schaub
Muscle thickness.
joe rogan
He doesn't want to be light if he's going to fight Michael motherfucking Bisping.
brendan schaub
I'm excited to see how that fight goes down.
I don't think he's as big as the draw as everyone thinks, though.
joe rogan
No, I think you're correct.
I think a lot of people have passed.
Oh, he's zipping up his lip like he's not saying anything.
Well, maybe you should start talking, dude, because that's how you make money.
brendan schaub
Both of you need to start talking.
Cheers, brother.
unidentified
Cheers.
The octagon goes back to Madison Square Garden!
joe rogan
Imagine if I did commentary, but I said, I'm only doing it in an English accent.
unidentified
From now on, I'm wearing a bowtie!
brendan schaub
Dude, if you wore a bowtie, I feel like people would revolt.
Just fuck this.
joe rogan
They'd think it's adorable.
brendan schaub
No, I don't know, man.
I feel like people would be pissed.
joe rogan
Dude, you look good in a bowtie.
Thanks, man.
brendan schaub
Thanks, bro.
unidentified
Thanks, bro.
joe rogan
I'm thinking to turn it pink.
Just a pink bowtie.
brendan schaub
Just all pink.
That card's stacked, though.
It's a great card.
joe rogan
Who else is on the card?
brendan schaub
You got TJ Dillashaw, Cody Garbrandt, which is the best fight on the card.
unidentified
That's a good fight.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
You got...
I don't know if this is confirmed or not.
You might know, Jamie, or you might know.
You can probably do a fucking promo for it.
Masvidal versus Wonderboy.
joe rogan
Yes, it is confirmed.
brendan schaub
That's a motherfucking fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't done the promo for that yet.
Ooh, yeah, there's some good fights in there.
Look at that.
Johnny Hendrix, Borracina.
brendan schaub
Johnny Hendrix still fighting?
joe rogan
Sliding back, man.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Is that Ferasahabi's brother?
brendan schaub
Oh, it is, right?
Yes, damn, that's right.
Good for him.
joe rogan
He's supposed to be badass.
7-0.
brendan schaub
He better be if your brother's for us.
I mean, you better know some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should know some shit.
brendan schaub
Always dropping the ball, man.
joe rogan
It looks like Thompson and Masvidal is the first fight in the main card.
Nice.
T.J. Dillashaw and Cody Garbrandt's a big fight, man.
brendan schaub
This is why this card's so good.
So Bisping, St. Pierre, it's a good fight.
It's not going to knock your hair back, but it's a fun fight.
We don't know who's going to win that.
Garbrandt, Dillashaw, god damn, that's a tough one to pick.
joe rogan
I just hope Garbrandt's back is 100%.
brendan schaub
I'm sure it is.
It sounds like it is.
You know what I'm saying?
He's back training.
joe rogan
I just hate to see someone with a back injury rush it back.
brendan schaub
He's kind of taking his time, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's a smart kid, and he's around good people, and he's been at the UFC facility.
joe rogan
How much time has it been?
brendan schaub
God, it's been a minute.
Remember, this was quite a while ago, and he even pushed it back even longer, and people were, like, talking shit to him, but I think it's very smart and calculated.
He's a smart dude.
He has potential to be a superstar.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, he does.
And that's a really interesting fight.
brendan schaub
Great fight, isn't it?
joe rogan
Dominic Cruz, Cody Garbrandt was December 30th.
Okay.
2016. So, that's interesting, man.
So that's quite a while ago.
unidentified
A lot of time off.
brendan schaub
Good enough.
And he wouldn't rush it back.
Especially being champ, you really don't have to rush back.
So you got TJ, Cody.
joe rogan
So it's eight months after that fight.
And when did his back get hurt?
Did it get hurt in training?
brendan schaub
Yeah, because remember they're supposed to fight on that Vegas card.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
The July card.
joe rogan
I just hope he's done everything.
I know he was doing some of that Regenikine stuff to try to get better.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they sent him to Germany, didn't they?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he went over there and got that treatment.
brendan schaub
He's a smart kid, and he's young, too.
That's the other thing on his side.
And he doesn't have a lot of miles on him.
I bet he's going to be alright.
And then TJ's doing a lot of his camp out here, and he's making things up.
It's such a good fight.
joe rogan
It's a good fight, man.
And that gives plenty.
TJ's never slacked off from the time they were first supposed to be scheduled to fight.
unidentified
Never.
brendan schaub
TJ's a workhorse.
joe rogan
He's just in super shape, and he's getting better constantly.
brendan schaub
I wonder what the odds are on that fight.
It's going to be close.
It's such a good fight.
joe rogan
I think the big factor, one of the big factors is Cody's hands.
brendan schaub
His power.
joe rogan
Power and speed.
Lightning.
Lightning combinations.
brendan schaub
TJ's fast too, but then Cody's fast with crazy power.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But I feel like TJ... See, Cody's takedown offense is really good.
His power is really good.
He's fast as fuck.
But then TJ mixes it up so well in his footwork.
But then Cody's footwork against Dominick Cruz was ridiculous.
joe rogan
Fantastic.
It's a really good fight.
brendan schaub
Isn't it good?
joe rogan
I think TJ's going to be better than he was against Dominick Cruz, too.
You know, I think the Dominick Cruz fight, he was super emotional.
And he got real flat-footed.
And there was times in the fight where he was, like, loading up, looking for a big shot.
brendan schaub
Yep, trying to finish him off.
joe rogan
He can't do that to Dominick.
He's just not going to be there.
brendan schaub
See, here's the thing.
Cody Garbrandt versus Dominic Cruz.
Is Cody that damn good where he just outclassed Dominic Cruz?
Or did Dominic Cruz have an off night?
Or did they not match up right?
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I think Dominic is a fantastic fighter, but he's had some foot issues too.
Dominic's got that plantar fasciitis.
Well, massive surgeries, right?
He's had both knees operated on more than once.
He's had a torn groin muscle that fucked him up.
He's had some serious issues.
brendan schaub
He's been fighting for a minute.
He also works for UFC. Yep.
Non-stop.
joe rogan
Yep.
And now that Brian Stamm retired, I assume that he's going to work more.
brendan schaub
Non-stop.
So, you know, what's Cody and TJ doing while you're working for the UFC? I don't think you can do both and be as successful as you want to be.
joe rogan
Right.
Not to be the best.
brendan schaub
I think Dominic's so damn good, and he's kind of, you know, he's so good where he can pull it off and still, you know, beat anyone in the world.
But to be like...
Well, that's a bad example.
I don't think Conor could work with you on UFC pay-per-views and be Conor McGregor.
Does that make sense?
joe rogan
It does make sense.
You know, I think the big factor in that fight was the speed and the combinations of Cody.
They just landed more often.
They were just better.
You know, like he was connecting on Dominic.
And Dominic was throwing things just a little wider.
And then Cody was just getting in with those shots, like multiple times, clipped him with hard shots.
brendan schaub
Also, when Cody lands, you're like, God damn, at 35?
unidentified
He cracks.
brendan schaub
Click a little Mike Tyson.
Yeah, he cracks.
And he's obsessed with being the best, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Very interesting fight.
brendan schaub
He also speaks well.
All he cares about is fighting.
Him and Kevin Lee have the most potential to be your next breakout superstars.
joe rogan
No, I agree.
The thing about TJ, though, is TJ has more weapons.
TJ does more stuff.
Cody, although he does kick and does throw knees and does throw elbows, he's so good at boxing that you see him predominantly a boxing-oriented style.
brendan schaub
He can wrestle, too, though.
He was a phenomenal wrestler in high school.
joe rogan
TJ, though, he'll mix it up more with kicks.
brendan schaub
Yeah, TJ, yeah, exactly.
He's like, he's more of a Swiss Army knife where fucking Cody Garbant's like a goddamn machete.
If that thing lands, game over.
Oh, he has ridiculous footwork.
joe rogan
Good way to put it.
He's like a Swiss Army knife.
He basically can do everything.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's like, you know, Dominic Cruz set the blueprint, and then TJ Dillshaw downloaded it, brought it to the next level, and Cody Garber didn't even download that, brought it to the next level.
joe rogan
But can you say he brought it to the next level if Dominic beat him?
brendan schaub
It's true.
Did he beat him, though?
joe rogan
No.
I think it was a draw.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
I think it was as close to a draw as a human can get.
I just, I don't understand those fights when, who the fuck knows, and you decide one guy's the champ and one guy's the loser.
brendan schaub
You gotta pick someone, though, and move on.
joe rogan
I know, but it seems crazy.
It seems like, in a fight like that, that seems like a draw to me.
It really does.
brendan schaub
What's up with some overtime, for God's sake?
Go six rounds.
joe rogan
It just...
I mean, if anybody was going to get it, I'd get given the nod to Cruz, because he definitely seemed to get Cody to fight his fight more, and he connected with some good shots, but Jesus, it was so close.
brendan schaub
You mean TJ? Yeah, what did I say?
Cody.
joe rogan
Cody.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
You're so goddamn close.
If anything, you can do a draw and then just make them fight the next fight so there's a clear winner.
joe rogan
Dominic landed more clean shots on TJ, but TJ landed a lot of shit on him, too.
And it hit him with a lot of leg kicks, too.
Had him limping.
brendan schaub
TJ, like you said, he got so emotional and was just headhunting for a while there, which is where I thought Dominic started to win rounds.
joe rogan
I'd have to go back and watch that again.
brendan schaub
Me too, but from what I remember, I watched it twice, maybe three times before that.
It was such a goddamn close fight.
joe rogan
I remember being surprised that TJ didn't try to finish him with leg kicks, because Dominic was wobbling so bad.
brendan schaub
The guy with knee surgery, too.
You know what I'm saying?
It's all fear and love and war.
Go ahead and kick those knees.
Go ahead and slam that plantar fascius.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was saying after the fight that that's what it was.
That it was his feet.
His feet are just fucked up.
brendan schaub
He's had a great career.
joe rogan
Well, you know what it is?
It's because he came back after a long time off because of the surgeries.
And once he got in shape, he had to make up some lost time.
brendan schaub
He went nuts.
joe rogan
He went nuts.
And he tore the bottom of his feet.
brendan schaub
I hear that.
joe rogan
That shit apparently is super painful.
brendan schaub
Have you ever had it?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Bro, I had it for my camp against Mitrion because, again, I love to run.
I was doing so much road work.
In the mornings was the worst time.
I'd get up and it would take me 15 minutes just to kind of make my way to the toilet.
joe rogan
Jesus.
brendan schaub
It hurt so goddamn bad.
joe rogan
That wouldn't be a good thing for me today.
Today I don't have 15 minutes.
Today I got, you know, those shits that you get like, you get about 30 seconds notice.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's go time.
joe rogan
You feel like the rumble.
brendan schaub
Talking about the fucking...
unidentified
Rumble, rumble.
joe rogan
Like, oh Jesus.
Okay, gonna get in there.
brendan schaub
Terror level five shit.
Here we go, here we go.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you have to wait 50...
Ooh, leg lock.
She's a little high, a little high.
She can't do that, honey.
You gotta scoot down.
I'm so condescending.
I call her honey.
brendan schaub
See, what's wrong with that, though?
unidentified
It's rude.
brendan schaub
Is it?
Honey?
joe rogan
If I was her.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
I'd be upset at me.
brendan schaub
Not me.
I'd find it flattering.
joe rogan
Lock that triangle up, baby.
brendan schaub
Go and lock it up, girl.
joe rogan
Come on, sweetie.
brendan schaub
Lock it up.
Lock it up.
Just being a dick.
Come on, sweetie.
Get that triangle, sweetie.
Very good.
unidentified
Hook the leg.
brendan schaub
Oh, we're doing work now.
Ooh, got the armbar.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's got both.
brendan schaub
Go ahead, crank on that, girl.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, she's got both here.
Oh, she's got that arm.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Let's get that foots in play, though.
See, both those feet are in play.
brendan schaub
Ooh, got that scissor action, though.
joe rogan
That's where you're supposed to hook that leg.
You're supposed to control the position better.
Hooking that leg's giant, man.
You know?
Major.
People do it two ways.
When you control someone from a triangle, do you hook the leg like this?
Do you scoop it around on the outside, or do you go underneath?
brendan schaub
It depends, right?
Where you're at, exactly.
I go underneath.
joe rogan
Underneath seems like the move, right?
Because you can elevate their leg.
Yeah.
Some people don't like that, though.
Some people like to just hold on to the leg.
They like to...
I mean, you know what, man?
Whatever the fuck you can pull off.
brendan schaub
Yeah, exactly.
Especially when punches are flying or you're on the key to the battlefield.
Whatever it takes to get that goddamn leg.
joe rogan
It's funny.
So many people have so many opinions on hand positions and chokes and stuff.
brendan schaub
It's all fun and games still here and there.
Bullets are flying.
joe rogan
You know who I want to learn from?
Have you ever learned that go-go choke?
brendan schaub
Talking about the Rothwell choke?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you know that choke?
brendan schaub
Not like Rothwell does.
joe rogan
Yeah, his instructor, Jamie Seagafy, Ben Rothwell's jiu-jitsu instructor.
brendan schaub
When's he find a game?
joe rogan
He's one of Hickson's guys.
He's a black belt in Hickson.
Apparently this choke that this guy's got is just phenomenal.
brendan schaub
What's up with Rothwell?
Did he piss hot or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, he pissed hot.
unidentified
God dang.
joe rogan
I think.
Pretty sure.
brendan schaub
I feel like he did.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Any news on JDS? No.
joe rogan
He pissed hot for a diuretic.
This is like, I mean, what do we got in here?
brendan schaub
Can you tell your boy to go and snitch just relax a little bit?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
He's not.
brendan schaub
Can't do it.
joe rogan
Luis Claudio.
There he goes.
Luis Claudio apparently is the master of that shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, no shit, and they showed the big maze choking bitches out.
joe rogan
He showed a lot of people that choke, and they're like, what the fuck?
brendan schaub
It's nasty, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess it's just somehow or another the way he's holding it.
He's going into your neck.
Into your throat as he's choking you with it.
It's like people just develop the finest application of one technique.
They just get it down.
brendan schaub
That's their shit.
joe rogan
That's their shit.
brendan schaub
Didn't Rothwell tap out Barnett with that?
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
brendan schaub
That's how you know that shit's legit.
Barnett's as legit as it gets grappling-wise.
You surprised him with that shit?
joe rogan
Insane.
And you see when he got him, Josh was like, what the fuck?
brendan schaub
I'm just like, God damn, what are you doing?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was nasty.
He wasn't getting out of that.
In a lot of ways, those kind of old-school chokes, that's a lot of shit that Josh Barnett's into, right?
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, it's catch wrestling.
Break your neck off.
I like Josh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How about I had Goldberg on Firing the Kid?
You know, Goldberg, the wrestler.
And he's best friends with Brock.
And I said, do you think Brock's going to come back?
And he goes, he was going to until John Piss hot.
Oh my God.
He said, you're breaking my heart, Goldberg.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
brendan schaub
Right?
That'll fuck up your Saturday.
You thought the fire's coming in and fucked your Saturday up?
That'll fuck your Saturday up.
joe rogan
I can't do this at 1 p.m.
unidentified
on Saturday.
brendan schaub
I literally just went...
And I looked at Goldberg and said, get out.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out.
joe rogan
What in the fuck is wrong?
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
He was going to.
We were going to see that monster again.
unidentified
What is wrong with the world?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Whoever that meathead is that gave that shit to Jon Jones has got to be on suicide watch right now.
Just sitting there with one of those shakes.
brendan schaub
He's probably going, I fucking warned him, bro.
unidentified
I warned him.
brendan schaub
I swear.
We should get a team together like Navy SEAL Team 6 and just go fuck him up.
unidentified
Basically a tainted batch.
joe rogan
I gave him Gave him the right stuff.
brendan schaub
I take the same shit I passed.
Yeah, I almost said Dirk Nowitzki.
joe rogan
Maybe they didn't know about the...
Maybe they're testing over and over again with the blood test.
brendan schaub
See, I heard it's a new test.
joe rogan
Oh, the urine test is new?
brendan schaub
Ash the golden snitch about it, bro.
You got a direct line to him.
joe rogan
Ooh, I will.
He's going to come on the podcast again.
brendan schaub
After, John, we get the thing about John?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, if it times out that way.
If not, we'll do it before, but I'm going to have him on soon.
brendan schaub
Kind of delayed, though, until that test comes out so we get the real fucking info, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably a good idea.
It's so depressing to me because it felt like John returning the way he did, that's like a superstar victory.
He handled himself with class and dignity after it was over.
I mean, everything about it was amazing.
And then to go from that to pissing hot, you're like, oh, no.
I was at Universal when I found out.
Jamie texted it to me.
brendan schaub
You texted me and I thought you were fucking with me.
I thought you were trolling me.
joe rogan
I thought Jamie was fucking with me.
I just got off the Harry Potter ride, man.
I was feeling good about things.
brendan schaub
Fuck your day up.
joe rogan
I was like, life's pretty good.
brendan schaub
Life's good.
joe rogan
This Harry Potter ride was fun.
brendan schaub
I thought it was fake news.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
brendan schaub
Super fake news.
joe rogan
Super depressing.
brendan schaub
You know, I was thinking about...
So with John being out, and then you got Connor, right?
Like Connor, Nate, things like looming in the air.
That's like what they got to do next.
These huge money fights.
Other than that, there's not a huge money fight.
But Connor has changed the game for the better, especially if you're the fighter.
But it's like, you know, with WME, he's staring the ship.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Like, think about it.
Because the numbers coming out, they're saying it's going to be the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
So he made a hundred-something million dollars, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So you're telling me, if you're Conor and you're part of his team, you're going to go, hey, fight Nate Diaz for...
How much?
Five?
Ten million?
Oh, and also, we need you to wear this Reebok, and they're going to pay you $100,000 a year.
I think Conor's going to go, you're fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Well, I'm sure there's non-negotiables, and one non-negotiable is the Reebok deal.
You can't get around it.
I disagree.
Well, it seems like you can't get around it right now.
Everybody's wearing Reebok clothes.
brendan schaub
Well, no.
I'm not saying he's not going to wear Reebok, but what you have to do is you're playing a different game now.
You're talking about the biggest athlete in combat sports, and you're not getting him for the $200,000 you were paying a year.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
That's true.
brendan schaub
He can go, listen, I'm down to wear Reebok, but it's a different animal now.
joe rogan
Well, Reebok professionally sponsors him.
Just like they do Paige Van Zandt, just like they did Ronda.
unidentified
I get it.
Different.
joe rogan
More money.
brendan schaub
More, but not to think how much he made to just wear those, you know, whatever he had on his trunks.
joe rogan
Right.
That's a good point.
You know, that fight, if it really did get six and a half million pay-per-view buys, like they were talking about Conor making a hundred million dollars if it got five million pay-per-view buys.
They got one and a half more than that.
brendan schaub
See, but that's up for debate, because you know how that came about?
So, I think Dana was sitting on that Snoop cast or something, and Uriah's filming, right?
And Dana goes, he didn't think it was being recorded, and Dana goes, 6.5 mil.
And everyone's like, damn!
You know, in the room, like, oh, damn, dog!
And Snoop's like, damn, dog!
And then Uriah turns and goes, 6.5 million, and then shuts the camera off.
But Dana never officially said 6.5, but that's how it got started.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
brendan schaub
So Espinosa from Showtime's like, uh, it's going to break the biggest preview numbers of all time, but we're thinking more around four something.
joe rogan
Oh.
brendan schaub
Like almost five.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
So who knows the truth and who doesn't?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I like to go with Dana on this one.
unidentified
Well, that sounds better.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I was crunk.
I blasted up.
jamie vernon
That's what I see right now online.
joe rogan
Trending towards 4.6 million.
Oh.
jamie vernon
Domestic.
joe rogan
Oh, well then it's 6.5.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is my thing with Dana.
He wouldn't just throw that up because he doesn't want to look like an idiot.
Especially whether he did it officially or not.
If he says that to Uriah and Snoop, he didn't think he was being recorded.
But Dana wasn't just like 6.5, everybody.
He's not making that up.
joe rogan
If it's trending towards 4.6...
Nationwide in America, that's 100% $2 million more overseas.
Guarantee you.
jamie vernon
The ARC also says that it wasn't $100 worldwide either.
It was $25 in some countries.
brendan schaub
It's $24.99 in the UK and then Ireland, you know?
joe rogan
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
But still, it's going to be around 6.5.
From what I heard, it's going to be 6.57.
joe rogan
Does the UK have a history of pay-per-views like we do?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Joshua.
jamie vernon
I don't know if it's quite the same.
joe rogan
That was a pay-per-view for them?
brendan schaub
Yeah, over there.
joe rogan
But over here was...
brendan schaub
It's free.
joe rogan
Free.
It was HBO, right?
brendan schaub
Because he's not a big a star here.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
That, you know, we like trade a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does make sense.
I just wonder how many people order pay-per-view.
I mean, you know, the way they watch TV is different.
I don't think they consume as much TV as we do.
brendan schaub
With fighting, if Conor's fighting or Anthony Joshua's fighting, they do.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, like, overall, England, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they have as many channels as we do.
I don't think they watch as much TV as we do.
brendan schaub
It is 2017, sir.
They have Netflix, they get all that shit.
joe rogan
That's not what I'm saying.
I just don't think that it's a normal part of their day the way it is our day.
I don't think people in England watch.
Like, Google that just to find out.
Yeah, it is, but I don't think they watch as much.
Yeah.
I don't think they watch as much TV on a whole as we do.
They have some great shows, no doubt.
But I don't think they watch as much TV on a whole.
I think that's more of like a...
brendan schaub
It's probably fair to say.
joe rogan
...a problem with our lazy ass culture.
brendan schaub
That's why we're out of shape here.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a big problem.
brendan schaub
I watch some TV though, but I also work out for God's sake.
joe rogan
Dude, our own president works out at all.
Zero.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he doesn't believe in it.
joe rogan
But he watches five hours of TV a day.
brendan schaub
He's hilarious.
joe rogan
He doesn't believe in...
He thinks your body's a battery.
brendan schaub
He thinks you only get so many beats.
You only have so many beats.
joe rogan
That's why he looks like that.
brendan schaub
He's hilarious.
He's so fat.
joe rogan
Oh, he's definitely not healthy looking.
brendan schaub
This fight's amazing by the way.
joe rogan
Are you paying attention at all?
brendan schaub
Zero.
Yeah, but either way, I think it's going to break the pay-per-view numbers.
But Conor's changing the dynamics for everyone.
Because now, when you want him to fight again, you can't have him agree to those old terms.
He's a smart guy.
And if you learn anything from Floyd, you know when you fight Floyd, you're fighting a different animal.
joe rogan
Look at Bruce Buffer.
Could he look more bored?
brendan schaub
He looks exhausted and bored.
joe rogan
He might have seen too many shows.
He might have traveled too many airline miles.
The dude looks super tired.
brendan schaub
Well, it's Rotterdam.
It's been a long trip.
joe rogan
Probably, but he's there for the fights, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you know, he just does his 20 seconds and he's out, man.
He's recharging.
joe rogan
It's a mindset thing, son.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
You gotta be in there.
You gotta be in there watching.
brendan schaub
There's rumors that he was gonna work the Mayweather-McGregor fight, but then I guess it didn't come to fruition.
joe rogan
Who did it?
Jimmy Lennon Jr., right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's good.
brendan schaub
You know what?
My one complaint about that whole thing is I thought they could have made the intros way better.
Like, turn the lights down.
Let me hear the volume of the music.
joe rogan
I met Demi Lovato last night.
Where'd you meet her at?
Very nice lady.
She was at the comedy store.
brendan schaub
God damn it.
The one night I'm not there.
unidentified
Damn it.
joe rogan
She's very nice.
brendan schaub
Is she nice?
joe rogan
Yes, very nice.
But my point is, she sang the national anthem.
You never get the national anthem in an MMA fight.
Why do they always do the national anthem in a boxing fight?
brendan schaub
Because boxing's awesome, and they appreciate America.
I think UFC has just too many goddamn countries fighting every night.
We'd never move on with the show.
joe rogan
Oh, she's got this triangle.
Oh, you're on the feet, baby.
Sweetie, honey.
brendan schaub
She's too loose.
joe rogan
She might be able to pull this off, dude.
It doesn't look good here.
brendan schaub
No, it's way too loose.
Go and pop that head out.
joe rogan
You've got to grab that foot from the outside.
Just reach around.
Oh, no.
She's lost it.
Just step over.
brendan schaub
For God's sake, step over.
It's all over.
joe rogan
It's all over.
Everything's gone.
brendan schaub
Go ahead and pass, girl.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's gone.
She can still lock this up.
She's got to get used to it.
There you go.
brendan schaub
She went right back into it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but she just grabbed it with her shin.
brendan schaub
Oh, the other girl?
joe rogan
The girl on the other side?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Fucking get out of it.
joe rogan
She's just missing that one crucial step of passing the ankle and getting down, locking down on the shin bone.
You've got to force that step.
That's like your life depending on it, like if you were drowning.
To be able to get your foot like this is so big that to not be able to get here, this should be your whole life's goal, is to get ahead of that foot and get on that shin.
brendan schaub
That girl on top lives to be in a triangle.
She's just diving her head in there.
joe rogan
I feel like so much of what you're seeing when you're seeing MMA is fatigue.
So much.
Like that girl not locking up that triangle right there, if she was super duper fresh, like in training, no adrenaline, no weight cut, she'd be able to lock that triangle up.
brendan schaub
I'd have to know her background.
joe rogan
I would too.
I'm talking shit.
brendan schaub
I hear ya.
Sometimes fatigue.
joe rogan
But I think that most of what you see...
brendan schaub
Look how high she is.
joe rogan
She's punching that girl.
brendan schaub
Bluebell.
joe rogan
Yeah, a little bluebell-esque.
But you're seeing a lot of people just doing what they can do with their body at the moment.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Versus what they know.
brendan schaub
Well, look at Shane Carwin and Brock Lesnar.
Shane was exhausted.
I've never seen Shane in my life get tapped out from a head-arm triangle.
Ever.
joe rogan
He was done.
brendan schaub
He was done.
And then Brock's, you know...
This girl's giving up the deep half.
joe rogan
She's giving up the deep half.
Oh, okay.
She's going to step over.
Oh, that was so silly.
brendan schaub
Shit worked, though.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
She got it.
brendan schaub
Oh, go ahead and crank on that chin.
I think you got it, girl.
She's exhausted.
She's going to tap.
She's going to tap.
Go ahead and crank on that chin.
joe rogan
Switch the body triangle.
Body triangle.
brendan schaub
Come on, sweetie.
joe rogan
Body triangle.
brendan schaub
Come on, sweetie.
joe rogan
Body triangle.
Get that squeeze on.
Oh, she's got that pretty good.
brendan schaub
She got it.
She's tapping.
joe rogan
I don't know about all that, man.
unidentified
She's tapping.
brendan schaub
Yeah, watch this.
joe rogan
I don't know about all that.
brendan schaub
Go ahead and break that neck like a chicken bone.
joe rogan
I think she's going to let her do it.
brendan schaub
Nope, it's going to pop.
joe rogan
No, she's going to turn into her.
brendan schaub
Go ahead and pop her in the face.
Oh, snaps!
joe rogan
Keep going.
Don't stop right here.
Don't stop right here.
Keep going.
Oh, see, this is fatigue, man.
So, like, in that scramble, there was no urgency on the bottom.
She was trying to rest.
You cannot do that.
When you get that opportunity, you gotta scramble hard.
brendan schaub
Well, the champions don't, you know, they don't rest there.
In the transitions, in the scrambles, they're moving, moving.
Like, you'll get DC, Jon Jones, there's no fucking...
Or TJ, Cody, there's no rest there.
joe rogan
I talked to Chuck about that once.
Chuck O'Dell was talking about how when you go down to the ground, he goes, once your back touches the ground, you gotta fucking explode.
brendan schaub
Like your life depends on it.
joe rogan
He goes, so many guys, they get down to the ground and they try to take a break.
brendan schaub
They rest.
joe rogan
And he goes, you're already done if you do that.
He goes, you can't do that.
He goes, once your back touches the ground, you gotta fucking explode.
Nobody ever gotta hold a Chuck and like hold him down.
brendan schaub
This day and age though, guys don't really, you know, especially at a high level, like the top guys, they don't rest there.
joe rogan
Randy was the only one that ever controlled Chuck on the ground.
brendan schaub
That's Randy Couture, for God's sakes.
joe rogan
Randy goddamn Couture.
brendan schaub
God, she's beating the shit out of this girl.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is rough.
You might want to stop this fight.
I'd stop this fight.
This girl's taking a tremendous amount.
brendan schaub
Right there.
unidentified
Stop it.
joe rogan
Stop the fight.
brendan schaub
Stop the fight.
joe rogan
Stop it.
brendan schaub
There's ten seconds.
joe rogan
Just stop the fucking fight.
She's not protecting herself.
Jesus, that girl took a lot of shots.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she just get her ass whooped.
joe rogan
Jesus, she took a lot of shots.
brendan schaub
The girl on the right's not too excited.
joe rogan
She wasn't protecting herself, man.
That's one thing that's interesting, the difference between boxing and MMA.
You got way more of a chance to get stopped in boxing if you get wobbly.
They'll stop the whole fight.
Whereas in MMA, they'll let shit go on way longer.
brendan schaub
Finish him!
Yeah, they want to see some shit go down.
joe rogan
Way longer.
Like the Conor fight, I agree with the stoppage.
brendan schaub
Me too.
For his experience level against the best of all time.
But in general, they're going to let you.
Like Anthony Joshua Klitschko.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
I mean, Joshua basically was flat out cold, woke the fuck up, didn't know where he was at.
joe rogan
And this was after he knocked Klitschko down.
I had him on Queer Street.
brendan schaub
Greatest heavyweight fight ever.
joe rogan
It was pretty much one of them.
brendan schaub
Oh my God, I was so crunked.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was pretty goddamn fantastic.
jamie vernon
That's the record for the British pay-per-view, according to the promoter.
joe rogan
Wow, 900,000 buys is the record?
jamie vernon
Somewhere.
No, no, no, that was the previous one.
That was David Hay.
joe rogan
Where's the record?
jamie vernon
It doesn't say.
joe rogan
1.3 million for the live airing of Tyson Fury.
jamie vernon
No, this quote here, it says they broke it, which was the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight, but I'm looking also for numbers that show official and then it never came out.
brendan schaub
It's tough to find, right?
joe rogan
So it's somewhere around 1.5 million for Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, which is what they...
brendan schaub
And that's just over there?
jamie vernon
This is an interesting part too, though.
I remember seeing some numbers like this for the Mayweather-McGregor fight, this German TV. They air it for free, I think, there.
You got 10 million people watching it there or something like that.
brendan schaub
Well, it's the same like in Brazil when like Cyborg fights or Anderson Silva, there's no pay-per-view there.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
So like 90 million people watch it.
joe rogan
God damn.
jamie vernon
16 million.
brendan schaub
16 million.
joe rogan
They got 16 million to watch David Hay versus Hootie fight.
Who does it say?
Tyson Fury.
Well, Tyson Fury's a very famous guy, right?
brendan schaub
Back then he wasn't that big.
Now he's more famous.
Did you see when he gave a shout out to frickin', what's her name?
The Irish chick.
Sinead O'Connor, because she's suicidal.
Have you seen that?
Sinead O'Connor did a Facebook Live suicidal from a hotel.
joe rogan
Does she have mental illness?
brendan schaub
I would say so, yeah.
But then Tyson Fury reached out to her because he suffers from it too.
He was like, hey, call me.
I don't think she's calling him, but he was like, call me.
You need someone to talk to.
joe rogan
I'm just going to live stream him banging her.
brendan schaub
I'd watch it.
Tyson Fury's a giant ass.
He's 400 pounds.
joe rogan
So, second thing we gotta talk about is everybody keeps saying that you didn't tell the truth about your interaction with Nate Diaz because they're reading this transcript that somebody put up of the conversation you had with Nate Diaz where you said, I think you're off on this.
brendan schaub
That's exactly what I said.
Because he goes, you're wrong, you're wrong, you don't know boxing.
And then I went, he won rounds and we're going back and forth.
And I go, I think you're off on that.
I think you're off on this or off on that.
joe rogan
And then someone wrote in quotes, he teed off on you.
brendan schaub
Those words are in my vocabulary to describe a fight.
Teed off.
Also, I would never disrespect Nate like that.
joe rogan
In his face like that?
That sounds crazy.
brendan schaub
Have you ever heard of me doing anything like that?
I would never do that.
Also, what kind of bitch move would that be?
I have nothing to do with that.
You fought another grown man.
I would never brag.
He teed off on you.
It has nothing to do with me.
That's disgusting.
joe rogan
That's so gross.
brendan schaub
No, I've never disrespected Nate like that.
joe rogan
So everybody out there that's talking shit, you're talking shit on a false narrative.
It's like some fake quote that someone, they might have thought they heard that, and that sounded like it was more salacious, so they put that in quotes.
It's not what he said.
brendan schaub
No, it's fake news.
joe rogan
Fake news all day.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they wrote their own stuff.
You can see they're vying for headlines.
It's like, Brennan Schaub talking shit to Nate and pointing down, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's saying, you know, people are saying, you weren't honest.
This guy can fucking crack.
Yeah, he can.
He's fun to watch.
Yeah, he's got a really odd style, man.
brendan schaub
Damn, look at his last fight.
Brandon Thatch.
That was kind of a while ago.
joe rogan
Did he win?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he beat Thatch.
How'd he beat him?
I remember he cracked him, he submitted him.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
brendan schaub
Undefeated.
joe rogan
Powerful, Rob.
Rob, 11-0.
Get it, Rob.
This is going to be a good fight, because C.R. Bahur-Dazad, I love saying that name, is a bad motherfucker.
He's a tough dude.
brendan schaub
As tough as they come.
joe rogan
He's one of those weird dudes that, like, you put your hand on him to interview him, he feels like wood.
brendan schaub
Like Dan Henderson.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, he looks like a normal dude, but he's not.
There's a lot of dudes that walk amongst us, they look like normal dudes, until you put your hand on them, you're like, hey.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
22-6-1 and Rob Wilkinson 11-0.
Got it.
brendan schaub
Man, that Dime Piece picture.
joe rogan
Is this Amanda Liao?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's going to be a fun fight.
joe rogan
I've got to stop doing these things when I come straight from yoga class.
brendan schaub
That hot yoga.
You're all sweaty.
joe rogan
And they don't put makeup on me, man.
Oh, Jesus, I forgot how bad this is.
Boom.
Boom.
That's tough to watch.
Has there ever been a super fight that was that one-sided?
A super fight where everybody thought, like, holy shit, I can't believe this is about to go down.
brendan schaub
Look at those people, shocked.
joe rogan
And one person makes the other person look like they have no business in there.
brendan schaub
And just over.
Over.
Just a career ender.
joe rogan
Complete, total career ender.
brendan schaub
Such a bad idea for her to come back.
joe rogan
Well, this was a bad idea for her to come back against this fucking power-punching monster.
She just hits too goddamn hard.
You know, I talked to Kat about it.
Kat told me, Kat Zingano, she told me when that girl hit her.
unidentified
Kat beat her?
joe rogan
Yeah, she did.
Yeah, she did.
But she got hurt in the first round.
brendan schaub
Remember, she almost finished her and then Amanda gassed out.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Kat was telling me, she's like, nobody ever hit me that hard before.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
I was like, whoa.
brendan schaub
This will be a fun fight, Shevchenko.
joe rogan
When Shevchenko caught Juliana Peña in an armbar, I was like, wow!
brendan schaub
Goddamn!
Torched her!
Who thought Peña was like the next big thing?
And then Shevchenko was like, oh, that's cool.
Check this out.
joe rogan
Well, she can do so many different things.
The thing about Valentina is she can strike.
She's got world-class Muay Thai.
She's tough as shit.
And they fought once and it was a super close fight, man.
brendan schaub
And people think if it was a championship fight with five rounds, Shevchenko would have probably won because she started to come on late and win rounds.
joe rogan
She started coming on late.
You know what?
I was super impressed with these two right next to each other like that.
Oh, that's fake.
Fake news.
That's an edit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's an edit.
joe rogan
One of the things that I was super impressed with when I saw her fight Holly.
Ooh, look at that.
Touching each other's faces.
brendan schaub
And Tim's.
When was the last time you saw some Tim's, young Jamie?
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
She's Brazilian and she's gay.
She can do whatever the fuck she wants.
brendan schaub
I agree.
unidentified
I agree.
brendan schaub
Rock those fucking Tim's.
joe rogan
I was just super impressed with her ability to control the interactions.
She uses that check right hook.
Her footwork and her technique when she was fighting, she basically shut down Holly.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
Which is surprising.
joe rogan
That's not easy to do.
I mean, I don't know what Holly was going into that fight, whether she was on a down, maybe didn't have such a good camp, maybe wasn't at her best.
But if you look at how good Holly looked against Jermaine Durandamy.
How the fuck is Jermaine Durandamy not in the top six?
brendan schaub
She left the weight class.
joe rogan
Yeah, but she's back now.
brendan schaub
No, she's not.
joe rogan
Yes, she is.
brendan schaub
No, she can't be.
She's ranked number nine at one...
unidentified
She's back at 135. Oh, you're fucking right.
brendan schaub
So she left 145, dropped down...
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, she bailed.
brendan schaub
She's not ranked because they're like, what do we do with this chick?
joe rogan
Well, it's weird because it's like she abandoned her title so she didn't have to fight Cyborg, which is probably a good move.
brendan schaub
But also career suicide because now no one respects you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, I get it.
I don't want to fight Cyborg either, but at least take the ass whoop and then cut.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess the argument is like, you know, she's saying that Cyborg's a career cheater.
brendan schaub
It doesn't work because she's passed every test in UFC. Yeah, she's passed the test now.
It doesn't work.
You can't just keep banking on that.
joe rogan
Especially if you look at the way she fought when she fought Tonya Evinger.
You know, she fought very professionally.
She fought with very good technique.
brendan schaub
She beat the brakes off that soccer ball.
joe rogan
Beat the brakes off her.
And she fought like it was intelligent.
Like she was very technical.
The way she approached the fight.
She just tried to maraud.
I was like, this is a mature cyborg.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but for sure murder her though, Forrest.
For sure make it exciting.
But no, if you're a Cyborg fan, you like that cerebral Cyborg, she's going to be so tough to beat.
But also, be the Mike Tyson of women fighting and murk her for us.
joe rogan
That's what we're going for.
unidentified
That's what we're going for.
brendan schaub
But Tanya Evans, hats off to her.
She just, talking about zombie mom, would not go...
How tough is that girl?
She would not go away, huh?
She would not go away.
joe rogan
She's very tough.
brendan schaub
So goddamn tough.
joe rogan
But I think she...
Also, Cyborg, she caught Cyborg with a couple shots, a couple punches.
Not a whole lot on him, but you've got to make sure that you mind your P's and Q's.
And she knew eventually she was going to beat her down.
She had five whole rounds.
But Jermaine stepping away from it like that, the real shame was Jermaine would have been a fucking very interesting fight.
brendan schaub
It would have been a fun fight.
joe rogan
Jermaine is super technical.
brendan schaub
She's a phenomenal striker.
But now Holly comes right on in and slides right on in the DMs.
joe rogan
Holly should, because I think Holly won that fight.
I thought Holly won.
unidentified
I agree.
brendan schaub
I had Holly winning, and also Jermaine also, you know, she had some suspect punches after the rounds.
Like, they should have taken points from her, so I thought Holly won that fight.
So now, karma catching up, the way things work out, life works out, and you got Holly versus Cyborg, hopefully.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's gonna be interesting.
brendan schaub
That's a fight.
joe rogan
Isn't Holly scheduled to fight Cyborg?
Have they scheduled it?
brendan schaub
The rumor was I'm at Square Garden, but there's nothing scheduled yet.
joe rogan
I think that, you know, with Jermaine, she came out in the first rounds and controlled it.
She controlled the fight.
But then she started to slow down.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and I think part of it, I mean, who the fuck knows, could be pressure, could be, you know, whatever it is.
But that's when Holly clipped her with that question mark kick.
Remember she clanged her?
brendan schaub
Yeah, hell yeah.
joe rogan
She shinned her with that, and then Holly dropped her with a straight left as Jermaine was coming forward.
Holly did the most damage, and she got hit late.
brendan schaub
Twice?
joe rogan
Twice.
I felt like it was her fight.
unidentified
Me too.
brendan schaub
I really do.
And that's why she should fight Cyborg, which...
joe rogan
But it pisses me off, because she should be two-division champion.
brendan schaub
Holly?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
It's dirty, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is dirty.
And then have Jermaine just step away from the title after that.
It's like, oh, come on.
This is crazy.
brendan schaub
Some bitch stuff.
joe rogan
They definitely should have taken a point away for the second time.
Definitely 100%.
unidentified
Yes!
brendan schaub
That's why Holly should be...
Yeah, I agree.
joe rogan
That alone would be the champ.
And I think...
I just think that rounds where Holly flattened her with that head kick and then dropped her again with that straight left.
I'm like, those are two big moments in the fight.
The most anybody was hurt in the fight were those moments.
That should show in the scorecard.
I don't know what system they were using.
brendan schaub
It was in New York.
joe rogan
Oh, the old system.
brendan schaub
New York's like, wait, what happened?
I missed that.
And then...
Especially with taking the points away.
Because if that was in Vegas or Cali, Holly would have won that fight.
joe rogan
Dude, how about the scorecards for the Conor Mayweather fight?
Fucking haterade.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Fucking one round?
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
You guys are out of your mind.
brendan schaub
Even Floyd was like, come on, man.
One round?
joe rogan
Come on.
First of all, Max Kellerman owes you some dick pics or something, doesn't he?
brendan schaub
At least a dick pic.
joe rogan
Doesn't he?
brendan schaub
At the very least.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor will not land a meaningful punch.
brendan schaub
What a round?
What are you fucking crazy?
No, he goes, he won't land a single punch.
This is bad for boxing.
joe rogan
He clipped him with a good left uppercut in the first round.
unidentified
Goosh!
brendan schaub
And they're like, Floyd allowed him to do that.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
If you know anything about Floyd, he's not allowing someone to fucking hit him in the face.
joe rogan
That's so stupid.
Him and Brian Barbarino should have a beach dad bod contest.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
The two of them just show up on the beach with a fucking six pack.
brendan schaub
A powerful Afghanistan dad bod.
joe rogan
One of those fucking fold-up aluminum chairs.
With the mesh.
brendan schaub
Sack lunches.
Fucking ham sandwiches.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, man, that dude is made out of bricks.
He hits so fucking hard.
And he's literally like one of the densest dudes.
brendan schaub
Damn, Rob's 6'3", though.
joe rogan
Tall dude.
brendan schaub
At 85, it's pretty normal.
joe rogan
25?
Oh, Baher Dozada used to fight 70. Now he's fighting at 85. God, he's a small 85-er.
Yeah, man.
Maybe he took this fight on short notice.
How tall is he?
brendan schaub
Would they say 5'11", 5'10"?
joe rogan
If you look at the way he's built and then think of Yoel Romero.
They're the same weight class.
brendan schaub
Well, yeah, do him like that, man.
joe rogan
That's how it has to be done.
brendan schaub
It really is.
Because that's the world we live in.
It is what it is, man.
joe rogan
The world's not fair.
brendan schaub
It's not.
Fighting's not fair.
joe rogan
Zebras don't occasionally eat lions.
brendan schaub
It just doesn't happen, man.
joe rogan
It just doesn't happen.
brendan schaub
Yeah, fighting just doesn't work like that.
unidentified
It just is what it is.
joe rogan
You know, that dude who plays Tyrion Lannister is not going to kick your ass, no matter how much he puts his mind to it.
brendan schaub
It's never happening.
joe rogan
It's just not.
God.
C.R. What a great name.
brendan schaub
God, I've never seen him fight forever, man.
joe rogan
He's been around for a long fucking time.
How old is he?
brendan schaub
He looks...
joe rogan
36?
brendan schaub
Every bit of 40. Was he 42, Jaime?
joe rogan
The fuck looks every bit of 42. I would say he's 36. I'm gonna say 33. What is it?
33. Whoa.
What's he eating?
brendan schaub
Well.
joe rogan
It's like you've got to change up your diet, homie.
brendan schaub
Dude, I feel like the international ring girls are kind of killing it.
They're beating the American ones, I feel like, lately.
unidentified
How dare you?
brendan schaub
Well, we got the old faithfuls.
joe rogan
They're my friends.
You're a monster.
brendan schaub
I also enjoy them, too.
You're a terrible person.
I'm just saying international stepping the game up.
joe rogan
4-53, first round.
52-51-50.
They have the clock on the screen, right?
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Jamie's on the ball.
brendan schaub
Jamie gots this.
He even logged in early and shit.
joe rogan
Making good use of that extra 15 pounds.
brendan schaub
We had another hiccup on the fight pass.
joe rogan
What is he eating?
brendan schaub
You talking about, uh...
joe rogan
That gets him so big.
brendan schaub
Bada.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like imagine it as much as you have to train to be an MMA fighter.
brendan schaub
He's older.
Sometimes genetics go fuck it.
You're getting dad bod.
joe rogan
33?
That's not that old.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
I think it's just wars, you know?
brendan schaub
It's Australian.
Jesus Christ, man.
Relax.
joe rogan
Is he Australian or English?
brendan schaub
He's Australian.
Rob Wilkinson.
Australian as fuck.
Good composure, man.
joe rogan
Good striking composure.
brendan schaub
For who?
joe rogan
Wilkinson.
Bauer Dezada just throws bricks, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's there to scrap.
joe rogan
Very dangerous.
Very dangerous guy.
Because he's throwing everything in every shot.
And if he can catch you inside the first round, especially, he's going to hurt you.
The first round's so dangerous.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, it's dangerous.
Especially fighting a guy like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But he's got to take these breaks.
You know, when you sprint like that, when you're that guy, ooh, I like that jab.
brendan schaub
Well, A, he has to sprint like that because he's the shorter guy, and Rob's fucking way longer and ranger.
Hey, Rob, for sure get the jab out there, though, so you keep him back.
There you go.
joe rogan
It's always been his style, though.
Bajor Dezada's always been kind of a berserker.
brendan schaub
At 70, though, it's going to be way more easier than these 85 monsters.
Imagine him against Luke Rockle.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I can't imagine that this is the weight class he's going to stay in.
I think, if I'm looking at his body right here, he's carrying around a lot of...
Oh, we just clipped him with that right hand.
He's carrying around a lot of body fat.
I feel like this is probably a short-notice fight, if I had to guess, but I'm just guessing.
brendan schaub
He's had a long career, too, so I might just be like, I'm sick of cutting weight.
joe rogan
Could be, right?
I can't perform at my best.
brendan schaub
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Dudes start getting, like, kidney problems and...
Weird shit happening with their body.
When their body's just shutting down from the weight loss.
I mean, that's what kept DC out of the fucking Olympics.
brendan schaub
I know, man.
But also, like...
With the weight cutting, I think it's harder on females.
joe rogan
Yeah, I hear that a lot.
brendan schaub
For females, it's so rough, man.
joe rogan
I hear that a lot from them.
brendan schaub
And some of them get big, and they've got to cut weight with your thyroid and all that stuff.
joe rogan
Nice takedown.
Look, it takes the back.
Didn't get the hook in right away, though.
Oh, nice knee to the body.
Good timing.
Good timing.
brendan schaub
Tough take the shorter guy down.
joe rogan
He took him down once.
He just didn't get that hook quick enough.
jamie vernon
This says that CR has only fought four times in five years.
joe rogan
Wow.
Well, I think he had some shoulder surgery.
brendan schaub
It's taking his goddamn time is what it sounds like.
joe rogan
I think he had shoulder surgery.
Jamie, see if you can find that.
jamie vernon
It says injuries and setbacks.
It doesn't say which.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure he had shoulder surgery.
brendan schaub
It looks like, you can tell like he has a scar on the shoulder, the front of his shoulder.
It could also be hair.
joe rogan
It's tough to tell.
It could be.
Some latent caveman jeans.
I got some of those.
I got weird patches of hair that don't even belong there anymore.
brendan schaub
Do you?
joe rogan
Yeah, for humans.
brendan schaub
Dude, I feel like guys with a lot of testosterone have more hair.
Is that fair to say?
joe rogan
Yeah, not on the top of your head, though.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
It depends on if you have that gene.
But your body has a shitload of hair.
joe rogan
Well, that's why I get super scared when I see those super hairy Russians.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they freak me out, too.
joe rogan
Like the dudes, their whole back is hair.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just their legs, everything.
brendan schaub
Like when I fought Arlowski at Wayne's, I looked at his shoulder and went, well, sir, you have hair all over your shoulders.
Like chia pets.
That's scary.
joe rogan
Do you know?
Whoa, CR goes for the fucking...
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Darts it up, son!
joe rogan
Wow!
brendan schaub
He got it too.
joe rogan
He might have it here.
He doesn't know how to get out.
He doesn't know how to get out.
CR's just straining.
brendan schaub
He should roll him.
He's gotta go to sleep.
Give him that gator roll, son.
joe rogan
Oh, he's okay.
He's okay.
Wow.
He might get through this.
Wow.
Kevin's tough.
unidentified
Oh, snap.
joe rogan
He's tough.
He's very tough, man.
brendan schaub
Rob didn't fly from Australia to goddamn Rotterdam to get choked out like that.
joe rogan
It's probably a long flight, right?
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Look at that dude.
brendan schaub
Look at that dude.
See, I don't want that.
joe rogan
Look at that wrestler.
brendan schaub
I don't want no part of that.
I want no part of that.
joe rogan
That's so preposterous.
Pro.
Look up Rustam Chiev.
Look at that guy.
That was that big giant dude that David Hay fought.
brendan schaub
How is he not in Game of Thrones?
joe rogan
That's Valuev.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Holy, look at that hair!
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a straight-up gorilla.
brendan schaub
The only thing he plucks is his eyebrows.
joe rogan
This is Rustam Chiev.
He's a fuck...
unidentified
That's him.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's him.
That's another hairy wrestler.
Oh, you got...
unidentified
Russian hairy wrestlers from Russia!
joe rogan
Russian hairy wrestlers.
brendan schaub
But I also feel like these dudes have crazy testosterone and fucking hairy like a gorilla.
Most of them also have girls for kids.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
This could just be straight up pro science on hairy backs, but I feel like guys with a lot of testosterone, not a lot of hair, hairy as fuck chest, back, and shoulders, and usually have girls.
joe rogan
Kind of makes sense.
brendan schaub
It's science.
joe rogan
Weird science.
brendan schaub
Weird science.
Dude, after our last podcast, I had so many people hit me up about Large Marge.
Everyone remembers that bitch.
I wonder if she's dead.
joe rogan
Oh, she's gotta be, dude.
unidentified
Large Marge?
joe rogan
This was 85. She was like 60. She's like healthy.
She's deep in her 90s if she's alive.
brendan schaub
She might be killing it.
Maybe she has like a podcast, The Large Marge.
unidentified
She passed away in 88. A couple years after the movie.
brendan schaub
What'd she die from?
joe rogan
Coke and whores.
She got that movie money.
brendan schaub
It just went off like a rocket.
That movie money.
She fucking went Johnny Depp and started buying castles and shit.
joe rogan
I was reading about this chick in South Africa.
She's a student, and they're supposed to put like $100 in her account, or $1,000 in her account.
Instead, they put a million.
They put a million dollars in her account, and so she went off for like a month, was just buying clothes and shoes and taking her friends on trips and all that shit, and then they found it out.
brendan schaub
And then she screwed?
joe rogan
Yeah, she's fucked.
jamie vernon
She only spent 60 grand, though, they said.
joe rogan
Yeah, but in South Africa, that shit is...
That's like 600 grand.
brendan schaub
60 grand.
You're fucking P. Diddy.
You got gold houses and shit.
jamie vernon
She started showing up with designer clothes at school and they're like, well, what's going on?
brendan schaub
She bought a new iPhone 7. Gucci shoes and shit.
Everyone else is in fucking tarps.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Balling out of control.
joe rogan
She showed up in a new camel.
brendan schaub
But how silly is that?
A new camel with gold teeth?
Gold fronts?
unidentified
Gold fronts?
brendan schaub
Spinners for teeth?
How's that work, though?
Because the banks mess up, and you're like, oh, fuck it.
I'm going Sizzler.
And then they go, no, you're not.
You owe us money.
jamie vernon
It's like, get your fuck up, man.
They would sue you for it.
And if they went in court, then they would just take it from you.
brendan schaub
Okay, but...
jamie vernon
It's not a law, or it's not a...
It's a civil law or something about...
brendan schaub
Doing the right thing.
jamie vernon
Getting money that...
I forget the word.
I just was reading it.
Like, you're getting it...
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but do I gotta return the camel with fucking spinners on it?
I own that thing, man.
joe rogan
Hey man, did you hear that Nate Diaz wants $20 million for the rematch with Conor?
brendan schaub
See, and he should get $20 to $30 million.
joe rogan
Do you think that it's...
How many pay-per-view buys do you think that that fight would be worth?
brendan schaub
1.5.
joe rogan
Now?
Yeah, maybe more.
unidentified
1.5.
joe rogan
Maybe more now.
Maybe more now.
brendan schaub
Because let me ask you this, Joe.
What?
Let's say Nate fights the winner of Kevin Lee, Tony Furson, and they're the main event pay-per-view.
How many pay-per-view buys does Nate Diaz do without Conor?
joe rogan
Well, not as many.
Not even close.
brendan schaub
Not even close, right?
joe rogan
It's a big Conor thing, but the big fight for Conor is Nate.
Like, if Conor fought Kevin Lee, how many pay-per-views would he get?
brendan schaub
Over a million.
joe rogan
He might.
You're right.
You're right.
brendan schaub
You look up all Conor's fights, he's never done less than a million, ever.
joe rogan
You're right.
brendan schaub
So, he's the Floyd Mayweather of MMA now.
joe rogan
We freeze?
Oh, goddammit, Fight Pass.
brendan schaub
Goddammit, Fight Pass.
joe rogan
You son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
Conspiracy theory.
joe rogan
Snoop Cast did this.
jamie vernon
Son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
It's Snoop Cast.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay.
They fucked us.
Well, we're sitting here frozen out, ladies and gentlemen.
brendan schaub
Damn, I was so into that fight, too.
joe rogan
We will, uh, oh my god.
Oh, we're back.
jamie vernon
We're back.
brendan schaub
In low def.
joe rogan
Oh no, it's dead.
It's dead again.
We've got a streaming issue.
Some shit is going down.
brendan schaub
Or there's such a demand for this, it's fucked up like Mayweather McGregor.
They don't know how to handle the overload.
joe rogan
They only expected 50 people and they got 100. How dare you?
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but I think Nate, rightfully so, because that fight's going to be the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
I really do.
I think the trilogy's going to be...
unidentified
For MMA. For MMA. For MMA. Because of Connors, right?
brendan schaub
He's bigger than ever.
Biggest combat sports fighter in history.
joe rogan
Oh, he clipped him!
Bauer decided to hurt him bad.
brendan schaub
That's a long flight back to Australia going out like this.
joe rogan
Oh, the kid's tough, man.
Oh, he's getting rock-em-sock-em-robotted.
brendan schaub
Probably stop it now.
joe rogan
It's close.
Certainly close.
brendan schaub
Oh, hold up.
When you're sitting Indian style, probably stop it.
joe rogan
No, man.
He's getting up.
He's getting up.
brendan schaub
Getting up with his ass whooped.
Go ahead and stop it!
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Stop it now.
Stop it now.
Stop it.
Oh, my God.
Stop it.
Stop the fucking fight.
Come on.
brendan schaub
Look at him.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
Damn it.
Like, he didn't need that.
joe rogan
I mean, the referee collided with him and hurt him even further.
brendan schaub
Headbutt him.
Way to headbutt him.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
CR. Shut up that.
joe rogan
See, the dude can crack, man.
That's what I'm saying.
The dude can crack.
Look forward to seeing him fight 2018. Late 2018. You don't want to do coke with that guy with the white suit.
brendan schaub
Or you do.
Look at all those people.
I'll do coke with them.
Poor guy.
The ref gave him that cut.
But with Nate, I think that the fight, that's the thing with this fight, and that's why I don't think you're going to see it happen very soon, because both Nate and Conor realize how much power they have.
And you can't just go with the old rules anymore.
Conor has changed the dynamics of the fight game for the better for the fighters.
It's a great thing.
joe rogan
It is a great thing.
I just wonder how much Nate can actually get.
brendan schaub
Definitely, because what they say, I think Report said between the two fights, he made around $2.5 million to fight him twice.
joe rogan
No, he made $2 million plus to fight him both times.
Both times.
So it's $4 million.
brendan schaub
So $4 million total.
joe rogan
That's what I'm reading.
I did not talk to Nate.
I read this.
brendan schaub
So I thought he made two.
Maybe, yeah, you might be right.
Maybe I misquoted that.
So maybe it's two and two or two and a half, two and a half.
Either way.
So say he made $4 million.
There's no way in the world you can say, hey, Nate, fight Conor in the biggest fight of all time, trilogy.
Conor's going to get.
40 million, you're gonna get two and a half again.
There's no way that happens.
Both guys realize the magnitude of this fight.
joe rogan
And he made four million dollars in a year.
So how much money does he have left over?
He probably got a million dollars plus just sitting in the bank doing nothing.
brendan schaub
So you know what I'm saying?
So the dynamics have shifted towards the fighters for the first time.
Now, if you're the UFC, how do you make this work with Conor?
Because he's not fighting guys anymore for 5, 10 million.
You can't when you have over $100 million in the banking.
The biggest star of all time.
joe rogan
What do you think the most Conor's made in a UFC fight is?
brendan schaub
10 mil, probably.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
10, 12 mil, max.
joe rogan
So now you think he can get, like, probably like 30. At least.
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
At least.
joe rogan
Depends on how many the pay-per-view buys.
brendan schaub
Otherwise, why are you doing it?
joe rogan
What if he gets, like, what if Nate and Conor gets 3 million pay-per-views?
brendan schaub
It's not out of the question.
joe rogan
It's not.
brendan schaub
It's a stretch, but not out of the question.
unidentified
It's a stretch.
joe rogan
But if Nate can talk the right amount of shit, you know, and people get excited about it.
Honestly, right now, for Conor, what else is there that's even close?
brendan schaub
As far as fight?
joe rogan
In MMA? What else is even close?
brendan schaub
The only argument is you can say Conor's the only draw.
He can fight Billy from Afghanistan and still get two million pay-per-view buys or break a million.
joe rogan
I say you let Conor fight Pauli Malignaggi in Dublin.
brendan schaub
See, if I'm Conor and I have McGregor promotions, I'm going, wait a second.
I'm going to fight this monster, Nate Diaz, and you want to pay me $10 million and you're going to wear Reeboks?
Or I'm just going to go to Dublin, me and Pauly sell this $70,000 stadium out, and I'm just going to take all of it.
UFC goes, whoa, whoa, hey!
Chill!
joe rogan
Can't do that.
They must have some sort of a deal for boxing, too.
They have that Zufa boxing shirt that Dana was wearing.
It might be bullshit.
brendan schaub
Look at my skeptical hippo eyes.
I like the shirt.
I'd rock it myself because I like Zufa.
However, McGregor promotions, I'd assume, is Conor's thing.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
You think he's in cahoots with the UFC? I would think he has to be.
joe rogan
I don't think he would make a deal with McGregor Promotions.
I think he made a deal with...
What are you saying?
You can buy that Zufa boxing t-shirt.
25 bucks.
Why does it say Dana White Zufa boxing tee?
jamie vernon
Good question.
joe rogan
Does Dana White come with it?
It's false advertising.
brendan schaub
A picture of him?
joe rogan
This is fake news.
unidentified
I'd rock that boxing tee, by the way.
joe rogan
I would imagine he has some sort of a deal with that man.
brendan schaub
Okay, so let's say you have a deal.
Think about this, Joe.
So let's say Connor and Dana have a deal with the McGregor promotions.
They're like, alright, your next fight we're going to co-promote with you.
Well, how's that going to work now?
So then you're going to promote this huge fight and Nate's like, hold up!
If he's gonna make all this money, they're like, I know, we're in cahoots with him.
joe rogan
That's the way it works.
Wait, you mean for the UFC? Yeah.
No, I don't think it would co-promote for the UFC. You don't think so?
No, but I think it would co-promote if you had a Paulie Malignaggi boxing match in Dublin.
unidentified
In fucking Dublin.
joe rogan
Do you want to see that?
I want to see everything, dude.
I want to see Snail's race.
brendan schaub
It's so ridiculous.
The fight is the Nate Diaz fight.
joe rogan
That's the fight.
brendan schaub
But is it the fight as far as a businessman?
Because if Conor learned anything from Floyd, you know that when you fight Floyd...
Floyd's the businessman.
He's his own promoter.
He's everything.
Conor has his own promotional now.
He's the businessman now.
So Conor's going, listen, what are we doing here?
What do you guys want to do?
joe rogan
Maybe if the UFC contract that Conor has runs out, maybe they make some new, crazy, ridiculously lucrative deal.
brendan schaub
Oh, that contract doesn't matter if it's out or not.
The game has changed.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's no way you'd keep going with that current contract.
joe rogan
No way?
jamie vernon
I just found this.
Trademarks owned by McGregor Sports and Entertainment Limited.
joe rogan
The Notorious, Conor McGregor and Notorious.
Why did you pull that up?
I don't give a fuck about this.
jamie vernon
This is a company that officially exists and they own these things.
brendan schaub
And it's all Conor stuff, yeah?
It's registered in his name, not Zufa.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what does that mean?
That could be like a t-shirt company.
jamie vernon
It could be, but it's all...
joe rogan
I'm sure he's got something.
I mean, must have some sort of a...
brendan schaub
But also, Dana White...
I don't know about the guys at WWE, but Dana White's not stupid enough to let Connor do all this and not be involved in it.
He's not even like, sure, make your own thing, man.
Do your thing, buddy.
There's no way.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Either way, whatever he does.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
I would like to see him box Paulie while Nate just keeps eating tacos and going to Cabo, doing tequila shots.
brendan schaub
Really?
So that fight's going to go away?
joe rogan
It's not going to go away.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
joe rogan
The fight's around in a year.
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
If Nate wants to just chill and just train, have a good time, the fight's there in a year.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
If Conor stays active, I guess, with Nate, how are you going to stay in the limelight?
Yeah, he's fighting Nate Diaz again.
They fought over two years ago.
The hype's not there.
joe rogan
Paulie Malignaggi in a boxing match in Dublin, Ireland.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm watching that shit.
joe rogan
He has a legit possibility to get a win over a two-time world champion.
In the second boxing fight ever.
Two boxing fights ever.
Two world champions.
brendan schaub
Making bank.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
brendan schaub
Ballin', as you say.
joe rogan
How much?
unidentified
Ballin'.
brendan schaub
Stupid ballin'.
joe rogan
How much money do you think you would get for that fight, though?
Not nearly as many.
brendan schaub
I bet more money than you'd get fighting Nate Diaz.
unidentified
Mmm.
brendan schaub
With a tougher challenge?
joe rogan
Right.
So what do you think the pay-per-view would be for a Paulie Malignaggi fight?
Would it even be a million buys?
brendan schaub
For sure.
See, that's the thing.
Conor could play fucking in a celebrity softball game right now.
A lot of people are going to buy that bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
So him fighting Paulie and there's all this heat.
People are like, God, he did well against Floyd.
We could see him beating Paulie.
I'd say at least a million.
And if it's your own promotion, what do you make?
30?
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
30, 40 mil?
unidentified
Right.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Interesting.
joe rogan
Bring your balls, Connor!
brendan schaub
Bring your balls!
joe rogan
Everyone knows I like Pauly, but now Pauly's talking shit to all the UFC. Well, he should shut the fuck up, because if he wanted to have a UFC fight, he could go over there and get his brain kicked in.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you don't want...
joe rogan
Out of his mind.
Stop talking.
You're a boxer.
You're a very good boxer.
Just shut your mouth.
brendan schaub
Just go after Connor.
joe rogan
There's literally a million people in the world that could grab you and strangle the life out of you and there's not a goddamn thing you could do about it.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Sorry, dude.
brendan schaub
The UFC is not what you want to aim to point your gun at.
joe rogan
Don't talk shit.
They will give you a wrestler and he will punch your fucking face into pulp.
Well, he's not a goddamn thing you could do about it.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Not a goddamn thing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, like you think he went towards Tony Ferguson.
joe rogan
What does Paulie weigh?
brendan schaub
He's thick right now.
joe rogan
But what's his weight class?
Like 45, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
47?
joe rogan
Yeah.
How about you give him Ricardo Lopez?
How about you give Yair Rodriguez?
How about that?
brendan schaub
I mean, yeah.
You don't want that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
God, look at the Russians.
joe rogan
How about you just give him a guy that's not the top of the food.
Don't give him Frankie Edgar.
Don't give him Jose Aldo.
You don't need to do that.
brendan schaub
You know who he could beat up, though?
joe rogan
Who?
brendan schaub
CM Punk.
He'd start CM Punk.
joe rogan
He probably fucked CM Punk up.
brendan schaub
He'd uppercut the fuck out CM Punk.
joe rogan
Imagine what Max Holloway would do to Pauli Malignaggi in an MMA fight.
Just imagine.
Just try to wrap your head around the kind of ass-fucking I think Max went at him on Twitter.
Max Holloway would literally kill him.
brendan schaub
If he wanted to.
joe rogan
Literally kill him.
I mean, so would Cub Swanson.
So would a lot of guys.
brendan schaub
How would they do in a boxing match against him?
joe rogan
Not so good.
Not so good.
Max has the best shot.
I think Max has amazing footwork.
And he's a good striker.
Very, very good striker.
He's had excellent timing, good discipline, and his endurance is phenomenal.
brendan schaub
Cody Garbrandt might have something to say.
Even at 45, he'd come out and fight Pauly.
joe rogan
It'd be interesting.
It'd be interesting.
But Malignaggi's a legit world champion pro boxer.
brendan schaub
He's also retired, though.
He's a fucking smart dude.
Pauly's a very smart guy.
He's one of the best analysts in the game.
Pauly doesn't need to do all this.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that was one of the things that people were super concerned about, him sparring with Conor.
He did two 12-round sparring matches with Conor.
brendan schaub
He did an 8-round and a 12-round.
joe rogan
Oh, an 8-round and a 12-round.
And Conor was, you know, landing some, obviously, some fucking hard shots.
Just from what we know, what we definitely saw, that one straight left that fucking clanged him.
brendan schaub
That was rough.
joe rogan
Right dead center in the mug, and you see the sparks fly.
brendan schaub
But also to Pauly's defense, this is why I was telling Pauly, like, dude, let's say I'm retired.
So let's say Cain Velasquez was like, K-Shop, I need you to help me train, man.
I need you to come help.
Give me some rounds.
joe rogan
That's not a free ride right there.
That punch?
brendan schaub
Fuck, no.
joe rogan
That's not a free ride.
brendan schaub
Pauly's face looking rough there.
joe rogan
That is your face getting crushed.
brendan schaub
But here's the thing.
If I got off the plane, even from L.A. to San Jose and Kane won some rounds, Kane goes, hey, bro, I need you to go 5-5s.
That ain't happening.
I'm here to help you.
Ain't nobody giving you 5-5s.
I got one round, I'm going to sit on the side and coach up.
joe rogan
Do you think there's a lot of ego shit going on there?
brendan schaub
I think Connor's team brought Paulie in to fuck him up.
That's the only reason to go.
If he does fuck him up, we're blasting out there just to sell the fight more.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that was the other thing that he said about that.
Paulie's like, you'd never go 12 rounds like that.
He's like, you never fly in and go 12 rounds.
brendan schaub
Even in MMA, I've never heard of someone getting off a plane and going 5-5s.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
It basically gave him a practice fight.
brendan schaub
And it was smart on Conor's part.
joe rogan
Confidence builder.
brendan schaub
It also solidified him.
Shit, that motherfucker can box a little bit.
And then Dana blasted out.
It was very smart.
Obviously it worked.
joe rogan
Obviously it worked.
unidentified
Six and a half million pay-per-view buys.
brendan schaub
Super balling.
You've created an animal.
You've created an animal for your UFC. Yeah, but they got to.
joe rogan
What else the fuck do they have?
What else do they have?
brendan schaub
Strew versus Govlog.
joe rogan
I want to see the full video.
I want to give Pauly his full due.
unidentified
You can't.
joe rogan
I want to see the full video of Pauly versus Conor.
brendan schaub
Well, you probably could get it and watch it, but don't blast up.
unidentified
I'm telling everybody.
brendan schaub
Because if you do that, then you don't have a fight in Dublin.
joe rogan
I'm telling everybody.
brendan schaub
No, man.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I want to see what it was like.
You can't.
brendan schaub
You can't.
Because let's say Connor starched him for 12 rounds.
Well, then it fucks up the pay-per-view buys them.
We're like, wait, no, no.
Of course he's going to beat him.
joe rogan
But what if he didn't?
What if Pauly's telling the truth?
What if Pauly's getting the most of him?
brendan schaub
See?
That's why we want this debate, so you buy the pay-per-view if you're Connor and Pauly.
joe rogan
That ass kicking I gave you on Tuesday!
That ass kicking!
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Like, you can't...
brendan schaub
That tape's out there, but you can't release it because it's gonna fuck up the fight.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Did you see when the security guards were getting in his face?
He's like, relax, dude, I'm a fighter.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he goes, come on, I'm a fighter.
The guy kicked him out.
unidentified
He's like, what the fuck are you doing?
brendan schaub
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, I'm trying to hype up a fight.
brendan schaub
Then Paulie almost got in a fight during the...
When we were doing a pre-show.
Because the fans were just fucking...
joe rogan
Relentless?
brendan schaub
The Irish fans were just harassing him.
And then the guy goes, Paulie!
I'll kick your ass worse than Conor McGregor did.
And then finally Polly goes, fuck this.
Take this thing off.
Goes at him.
And so then Brian gets between them.
Brian, the commentator with the shaved head.
And he's like, no, no, Polly, don't do this.
And the guy's like, do something.
I'll give you a worse beating than McGregor did in his Irish accent.
Polly can't get to him.
Polly goes...
joe rogan
Spits on him.
brendan schaub
And then it was, chaos!
joe rogan
Security!
Security!
brendan schaub
For sure getting security earlier in that, though.
joe rogan
The thing about Paulie is he's not scary looking.
So you feel like if there's a pro world champion boxer you talk shit to, that might be the guy.
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
Until you get fucking blasted in the face.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you know what I mean?
Like there's certain people.
Who's that guy?
brendan schaub
That's Pauly, and then that's Connor's manager.
joe rogan
Oh.
But there's like, sir, there's Connor.
He's like, gentlemen, we're businessmen here.
unidentified
We're fucking businessmen.
brendan schaub
Hey, this is the shitty thing if you're Pauly, and this is the internet, and obviously Pauly's bringing this upon himself, but if you met Pauly, he's a great fucking dude.
unidentified
I love Pauly.
brendan schaub
He's a great guy.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan.
brendan schaub
He's hanging himself, because I told Paul, I went, dude, you're responding to these trolls, and I'm telling you, man, from MMA's world, they fucking hate you, man.
joe rogan
He fucked up when he wore the double diamond ear in studs.
I'm not going to lie to you.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
See, I like the double diamond Jersey Shore look.
joe rogan
It's not 2001. You can't do that anymore.
brendan schaub
Maybe where he's from in fucking Brooklyn.
They just own that shit.
joe rogan
They keep it rocking.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's from Bensonhurst, right?
Malonagy.
unidentified
Hey, they got the good straddle.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
Who's got the good design?
What about the linguine vongole?
brendan schaub
In MMA, man, they're just murdering him.
joe rogan
Bobby puts too much garlic in the sauce!
Bobby, easy with the fucking garlic!
unidentified
Over here!
joe rogan
Hey!
Dude, look at the size of Struve walking around the cage.
It's like the cage is up to his navel.
It's like a little kid's cage.
brendan schaub
How the fuck did no one put a basketball in your hand?
Do you hate money?
joe rogan
He's a Holland guy.
He's from Holland.
They don't even know what basketball is until they come over here.
brendan schaub
Fucking Google that shit.
Mrs. Struve.
joe rogan
Taking you out of Colorado and making you play cricket.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I wish someone did.
unidentified
Hey, mate, we need a cricket star.
As soon as you're done breeding in Mexico, come on over and play cricket.
brendan schaub
Breeding in Mexico.
unidentified
Everyone who plays cricket comes from a football background.
English football.
We don't hit each other.
We need someone who plays cricket who's more physical.
brendan schaub
This homeboy doesn't get enough credit.
Talking about M1 world champion and Bellator world champion.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a tough guy.
Bellator literally cannot hold a heavyweight champion.
When was the last time you even thought about the heavyweight?
unidentified
You look at him.
brendan schaub
He bounced.
joe rogan
He bounced.
That's what I'm saying.
They can't hold him.
brendan schaub
That's why I want Roy Nelson, Bobby Lashley, world title fight.
unidentified
Or...
joe rogan
They have to do an Indian reservation.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck where you do it.
joe rogan
They have to.
brendan schaub
Do in Dubai.
joe rogan
But you know why?
brendan schaub
Nah, I get ya.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
All natural.
brendan schaub
But also, why not have Fedor and Mitrione for a world title fight?
So at least there's a belt.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, Fedor and Mitrione was a changing of the guard, for sure.
Mitrione knocking out Fedor was basically like, okay, this ride's over.
It's essentially over.
If he wants to keep doing it, he can keep doing it.
brendan schaub
It's been over, though, you know?
joe rogan
For sure.
brendan schaub
But that's more American fans.
But the people in the know, that Melodano fight...
joe rogan
You're right.
Fabio?
brendan schaub
I was like, it's over.
joe rogan
Semi Schilt, old school.
So he's training with Semi Schilt.
That's a good sign.
brendan schaub
He was training Southern Cali for a while.
joe rogan
He's good, man.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
joe rogan
He's good.
Tall.
15 first-round finishes.
brendan schaub
His last fight, he beat Roy Nelson.
joe rogan
Did he?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's when Roy was like, alright, see ya, man.
Went to Bellator.
joe rogan
That's what happened?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Was it a decision?
brendan schaub
Roy was a free...
Yeah, he beat Roy by decision.
But then Roy's contract was up and he went with Bellator.
joe rogan
Well, I can't blame him.
He's always had words with Dana, you know?
brendan schaub
He always got back and forth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I can't blame him.
It's a good move for Roy.
It's a good move for a lot of guys.
You know what's a good fucking fight coming up?
Who?
Paul Daly is fighting...
Lorenz Larkin.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
It's a very good fight.
You know?
I mean, Daly had that real close fight with the Bellator champ.
The fuck's his name.
brendan schaub
No, he got murked by Roy McDonald.
Daly got taken down.
Yes, Daly did.
joe rogan
Yeah, Lima.
Douglas Lima.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're talking about Larkin.
joe rogan
Yeah, Larkin had a real good fight with Lima.
brendan schaub
Good fight.
Larkin got hurt in that fight, but yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I feel like it's very possible that Rory McDonald is the best welterweight on the planet right now.
brendan schaub
I think he is.
He beat Woodley.
Woodley's our champ.
joe rogan
And he looked so goddamn technical.
unidentified
Did you see what Rory said about Robbie Lawler?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
He was doing like a Reddit Q&A or Facebook Q&A and then went, hey, do you think Lawler was on steroids when you fought him?
And it wasn't like, ah, maybe.
He was like, I'm convinced he was.
unidentified
Whoa.
brendan schaub
I know.
Goddamn, Rory.
joe rogan
Why is he convinced?
brendan schaub
I don't know, you'd have to ask him.
joe rogan
The resiliency, but Robbie's always been like that.
He's always been like super resilient.
brendan schaub
It's Robbie Law, for God's sakes, yeah.
I have no idea for what it is.
joe rogan
He didn't look any different than he's ever looked, right?
He always looks the same.
brendan schaub
I don't know what to believe he stays, Joe.
joe rogan
He fought that same way against Cowboy.
brendan schaub
I don't know what to believe, alright?
joe rogan
I know, right?
After this John Jones thing, you're like, who knows?
brendan schaub
Are we like, who knows, or are we like, God, that kind of makes sense now?
joe rogan
I was putting all my Easter Bunny chips in the dick pills basket.
brendan schaub
Not me, but I pretended it didn't happen.
It's like your girl cheats on you, you just forget about it.
joe rogan
I close my eyes and go to sleep and hope it's real.
brendan schaub
Wake up and, I know.
joe rogan
It's real.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
They're all natural.
brendan schaub
I know, they're all natural.
He's just murking everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Robbie looked exactly the same when he fought Cowboy, and he fought the same way, too.
Like, the third round was a rough round for Cowboy.
He was coming on strong.
Robbie was coming on strong as Cowboy.
brendan schaub
Robbie took the second round off.
joe rogan
He took the second round off.
I said the third round was a rough round for Cowboy.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Robbie was taking it to him.
Hard body shots.
brendan schaub
Good fight, though.
joe rogan
Very good fight.
brendan schaub
I love Cowboy.
People are like, Cowboy got robbed.
I'm like, nah, I actually had Robbie winning that one.
One and three.
joe rogan
If it wasn't a draw, I would think that you...
I like going towards the guy who's winning the fight in the last round, too, the way Pride used to do it.
brendan schaub
But he also definitely won the first round, definitely won the third round.
I didn't have it as a draw.
In the second round, it's not a 10-8.
And this is someone who's biased as fuck for Cowboy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree.
brendan schaub
I was like, ah, goddamn it, Cowboy.
joe rogan
I agree.
Was that fight under the new rules?
It was, right?
brendan schaub
Sure was.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Goddamn, everybody's got to be on these goddamn new rules.
brendan schaub
How tall are these two?
joe rogan
This is the main event already.
We've paid attention to three minutes of the last fights.
brendan schaub
Yeah, a couple of dad bods, the horrible triangle attempts by the chicks.
And you kept calling them sweetie.
unidentified
Honey.
brendan schaub
Come on, honey.
Lock it up.
Come on, sweetie pie.
joe rogan
Come on, cutie.
brendan schaub
Just a couple tall boys here.
joe rogan
Super tall.
You got it, man.
You got a good point about that.
brendan schaub
You're talking about the international, right?
The international.
Don't fuck around.
Exotica.
joe rogan
Jesus.
That guy's got a total Norman Rockwell haircut.
He could be in a soda shop somewhere talking to a little kid with his dog.
brendan schaub
God damn, a Struff has on those giant basketball shorts.
God, Struff hasn't fought in a long time.
joe rogan
It's been a while.
brendan schaub
Right, his fucking heart stopped for a second there.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had, like, some serious problems, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he had to have heart surgery, man.
Then they thought he was done.
joe rogan
Did he have heart surgery?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they had to put, like, something in his heart.
Straight up heart surgery, son.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
I thought it was just, like, some sort of an illness.
brendan schaub
God, you know what?
I feel like you'd have some sort of surgery scar.
I don't see it over his heart.
Is that fake news, Jamie?
joe rogan
Sometimes they go into the armpit when they do certain surgeries for the heart.
They're going through your armpit and through the side wall of your body?
Oh!
So they don't have to open your chest up like a chicken?
brendan schaub
You might be right, because I know he had some serious shit going on, because we had the same manager at the time.
joe rogan
Oh, neat.
brendan schaub
And everybody's supposed to fight Mitrione.
That uppercut might land one of these times.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting is Volkov is like one of the few guys that he's ever fought that's pretty close to him in the reach department.
brendan schaub
Travis Brown.
Mayor Travis Brown said, oh, you're tall, cool.
Superman punch.
Skyscraper.
joe rogan
That was amazing.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
One of the best knockouts ever.
jamie vernon
He might have avoided surgery.
joe rogan
He might have avoided it?
How did he do that?
brendan schaub
Because remember the UFC wouldn't let him fight because he had to do something about it because the UFC was like too much of a risk.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had some sort of a serious issue.
brendan schaub
He's putting the rape choke on against the cage.
joe rogan
How many times have dudes run into those guys with the cameras?
I've seen it happen once.
brendan schaub
Not a lot, but these guys are so tall.
Those cameramen better have their head on a swivel.
Also, powerful Volkov has a Stingray tattoo on his back, like Moana.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a Moana tattoo.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're welcome.
brendan schaub
Oh, man, what a great movie.
joe rogan
It was a good movie, man.
brendan schaub
Fuck, The Rock.
Can that guy get more talented?
joe rogan
Bad motherfucker.
Bad motherfucker.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
High kick.
See, Struve on the ground, though, is trouble.
That motherfucker's guard is crazy.
jamie vernon
It says right here.
joe rogan
Hmm.
Modified workout regimen, dietary changes, and blood pressure medication.
That's the word regimen.
That's one word that I really don't like saying.
Blood pressure medication.
Listen, no...
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
There's that uppercut I was talking about, son.
That uppercut's landing.
The uppercut's trouble.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
I'd be worried about Struve when the going gets rough in this fight.
joe rogan
He has to undergo another cardiovascular examination within six months in order to maintain eligibility.
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
It's true.
We'll have her be required to undergo.
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Well, you know, people that are really that tall, they a lot of times have problems with their heart.
Apparently, it's just super difficult for your heart.
brendan schaub
It's like a Great Dane, for God's sake.
joe rogan
To pump blood through all that tissue.
unidentified
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
Name the tallest grandpa you know.
Go.
They're all dead.
joe rogan
They're all dead.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's a real bummer.
joe rogan
But there are some basketball players, we've gone over this, that are still really tall.
brendan schaub
Have we gone over this?
joe rogan
Yeah, Jamie and I have.
You know what the key is?
Pussy.
You gotta get a lot of pussy.
Just dick them down all the time.
brendan schaub
Get that blood pressure going.
joe rogan
Just get excited about it, get those texts.
brendan schaub
God, but when you're older, it's tough.
joe rogan
Like, old and gray.
Caffeine.
B12 shots.
brendan schaub
Those dick pills.
joe rogan
Who's the oldest guy that gets laid on a regular basis?
brendan schaub
Is he though?
joe rogan
Taking pictures with a smoking jacket on and taking naps.
brendan schaub
Bro, first of all, yeah, right?
That uppercut's landing, man.
unidentified
I'm telling you.
brendan schaub
How the fuck has a not-tell-all book come out about him just, you know, just having limp dick all the time with all these three hot chicks?
And just the shit he goes through to get it up.
And they're like, come on, half!
joe rogan
He's got an oil drum filled with Viagra by the bed.
He's taking fists and chewing them down like peanut M&Ms.
brendan schaub
Is that Will Chamberlain?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's dead.
jamie vernon
I know, but he lasted for a while.
joe rogan
He didn't live that long, man.
jamie vernon
He's 63?
joe rogan
That's not that old.
brendan schaub
Nah, that dick game's still strong at 63. Yeah, 63. He probably died coming.
How old's Hugh Hefner?
That's his thing, dicking girls down.
But I feel like it's all a lie.
They're all like, yeah, just take a nap.
We'll chill here while we make noises.
Just pace.
Why is he eating graham crackers and shit?
Yeah, he has graham crackers in the bed.
joe rogan
Can't believe it's going down in that room.
brendan schaub
God, Hugh's really laying it down.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, he was snoring and farting.
brendan schaub
Meanwhile, it's just a soundtrack.
joe rogan
Kimchi farts.
Old man farts.
Smell like tobacco pipes.
Oh, Volkov's on top here.
Dropping them hammers.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's not fucking anyone.
joe rogan
He might be.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he could just be like the ultimate ladies, man.
joe rogan
What is the oldest living basketball player, pro basketball player?
Wasn't Bill Russell fairly old?
How old is he?
brendan schaub
I saw Clyde Drexler in Vegas eating alone.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, he's hammering him.
He's 83. Bill Russell's 83. That's amazing.
And he's a tall dude, right?
Isn't he in high sixes?
brendan schaub
He's tall as fuck.
joe rogan
He's like six-something?
6'10 or something?
That's amazing that he's that healthy at that age.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's 6'10.
joe rogan
6'10.
Jesus.
brendan schaub
That's not crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, he's fucked up.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
They're both fucked up, though.
joe rogan
Big cut.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Big cut, big nose.
joe rogan
He's really in a sting race.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's super in a sting race.
I'm not mad at that, too.
I celebrate a sting race myself.
joe rogan
I wonder why.
Because he's a stinger?
Yeah, look at Bill Russell.
83, tall as well.
brendan schaub
I can just tell by looking at him he's not taking anyone down.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
brendan schaub
No, he's not.
joe rogan
The shoulders, the posture.
brendan schaub
Yeah, exactly.
He looks sad.
joe rogan
Wow, Struve, teeing off here.
brendan schaub
Watch the uppercut.
Boom!
There it is.
He keeps sneaking over that left arm.
joe rogan
Dude, that knee is what cut him.
That glancing knee.
brendan schaub
You don't want to be in there again, Struve.
He was married to a dime piece still, though.
He finally settled down, wiped up.
And he also sold the mansion, you know that?
Yeah.
But he still lives in the back house or something?
joe rogan
Well, he had some weird deal.
He was trying to sell the mansion for $200 million, but he had to live there.
That was part of the deal.
I don't know if he actually sold it.
brendan schaub
I think he did.
Someone bought it.
I was like, yeah, you can chill in the back, bitch.
joe rogan
That's just weird.
brendan schaub
I'm like, yeah, I'll do that.
Get your old ass out.
joe rogan
Well, you gotta realize, like, how much time does he have left?
Like, how much?
Can he live 10 years?
brendan schaub
How old is he?
joe rogan
Hugh?
jamie vernon
He turned 90 last year.
brendan schaub
He's a solid five years left.
unidentified
Wife's 29. Wife's 29. Let me see.
brendan schaub
First of all, he's 90. She's 29?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Oh, she's 30 this year.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
brendan schaub
Okay.
Good for you, girl.
You won the lottery.
You bad person.
joe rogan
You a whore.
She's fine, dude.
brendan schaub
Leave her alone.
Leave her alone.
No, I'm not mad at her.
Do your thing, girl.
Good God.
joe rogan
Those are totally real tits, too, by the way.
My word, Hugh.
brendan schaub
You have outkicked your coverage, old man.
joe rogan
Without a doubt.
brendan schaub
She is...
What, did you bring up the best picture of all time by a chick?
joe rogan
No, get a full body.
No, she's hot, dude.
brendan schaub
Dude, she is smokes...
I mean, she...
Well, that one you brought up was great.
Okay, she's looking a little long in the face there.
joe rogan
Long in the face?
How dare you?
She's 30 years old.
You son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
Dude, she's hot there, though.
joe rogan
You are a mean person.
She's pretty there.
brendan schaub
Good for you, Hugh.
joe rogan
She's more than hot enough.
I wonder if they have an arrangement.
brendan schaub
Meaning?
joe rogan
Like if her trainer comes over and just runs trains on her.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
brendan schaub
With his fucking apprentice.
joe rogan
I got a couple friends coming over.
Hey, we're gonna do a little workout.
brendan schaub
Do you think he has like an open relationship?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think you got to.
There's no way if his heart is a normal heart, he can fuck more than once a month.
brendan schaub
Bro, you're talking about Hugh Hefner.
You're talking about Hugh Hefner, the legend.
This is what he does, bro.
joe rogan
Oh shit, I poke?
Come on.
Damn it.
brendan schaub
Look at his old basic wives.
Those were the basic days before he got fucking rich and made a playboy.
joe rogan
How many has he had?
He had one of them.
He was flying a plane when he met her.
brendan schaub
It's just fucking...
joe rogan
That's the captain's hat!
The fuck's he doing?
It's tilted to the sides?
brendan schaub
That's him from World War I and shit.
That's what he's doing.
joe rogan
1949. Who's ahead of the game when it comes to tilting your hat sideways?
unidentified
Uh...
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's a poke, alright.
joe rogan
100%.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about, uh...
Because remember, he had the TV show where he had the three girls.
unidentified
I've slept with over a thousand women.
joe rogan
Yes, I have.
unidentified
I mean...
joe rogan
Who's that one?
brendan schaub
Oh, does it say tell all?
joe rogan
Yeah, but here's the thing.
No one's reading those books.
brendan schaub
You're right.
You know what?
When you're right, you're right.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
brendan schaub
He looks like a mannequin there.
He looks like shit there.
joe rogan
He's been throwing dick for a long time.
But he's also probably had some super boring conversations with these chicks for a long Let's talk to a 23-year-old.
brendan schaub
You want to ram your head into the goddamn ground after it.
Meanwhile, he's marrying these chicks.
He's paying a price, bro.
unidentified
He is.
joe rogan
I think it's part of what's valuable for his brand.
brendan schaub
He's a well-read guy, too.
Oh!
He's not a moron.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is a fucking good fight, man.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
Five rounds.
Jesus Christ.
They are super bloody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is this the second?
Or the third?
brendan schaub
This is the third.
joe rogan
Boy, that cheekbone is fucked up on Volkov.
jamie vernon
He got his last divorce because his wife was unfaithful.
brendan schaub
Son of a bitch!
joe rogan
How dare you!
He filed for divorce and says his wife was the unfaithful one.
brendan schaub
See, those are three new bitches.
I was talking about the ones from the Playhouse one.
joe rogan
Ms. Conrad cheated on him early in the relationship.
brendan schaub
God, how are you gonna cheat on Hugh, you son of a bitch?
joe rogan
How dare she?
brendan schaub
This is my thing, though.
Let's say, could you...
When I was a single man, I dated a girl who was friends with Hugh.
Could you marry a girl who dated Hugh Hefner?
It's kind of a red flag, yeah?
joe rogan
Seems like it'd be an issue.
brendan schaub
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It would come up if she ever talked any crazy shit.
You'd be like, ahem.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
What'd you say?
joe rogan
Dated a hundred year old man.
brendan schaub
And why did you do that?
joe rogan
Shut your mouth.
brendan schaub
To be in a magazine in 2016. Are you shitting me?
No one reads magazines either, you dumb bitch.
joe rogan
Maybe she did it for the experience.
brendan schaub
Yeah, maybe just one of those bucket list things.
But maybe he just has a strong dick game too, Joe.
You forget about that.
It's Hugh Hefner for a reason.
joe rogan
It's true, right?
Maybe a big old summer sausage for a dick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, just a giant fucking...
joe rogan
You gotta think that if you're a guy like Hugh Hefner, all these years of doing this, all these years of banging chicks, it's gotta get boring after a while.
brendan schaub
Super boring.
So you start fucking dudes.
joe rogan
Ah!
brendan schaub
Like, what do you do after a while when you're Hugh Hefner?
joe rogan
Um, I don't know.
I think he, like, plays backgammon or something.
brendan schaub
He has a bunch of kids, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got a gang of kids.
The magazine tried having no naked girls in it.
They did that for about a year.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
Oh, yeah, let me get my fucking Playboy subscription, because I want to know about politics.
What are you guys doing?
joe rogan
Super important to read articles, Brendan.
This is a good fucking fight, man.
Good-ass leg kick.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
joe rogan
Volkov with some solid technique.
But so is Struve.
Oh, nice knee to the body.
Struve is not a spring chicken, but he's been around for a long fucking time.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, he's been playing for a long time.
joe rogan
I mean, think about that.
Travis Brown, basically out of the picture now.
brendan schaub
Roy, kind of over.
He fought Pat Barry.
He fought everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's been around for a long fucking time.
So is Travis Brown done?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
What, he's lost five out of the last six or six out of the seven or some shit?
joe rogan
I know that, you know, Josh Barnett was super impressed with him in preparation for this last fight.
That Russian dude put the squeeze on him.
brendan schaub
It doesn't matter, though, because when you lose five out of six, you know, like, we don't care what you do in training.
joe rogan
He didn't look, I mean, he looked good in the beginning.
In the beginning he looked good.
brendan schaub
He looked all right.
joe rogan
He was moving around.
brendan schaub
He didn't look like, you know, he doesn't look like vintage Travis Brown.
joe rogan
I feel like he needs to go back to Albuquerque.
brendan schaub
But maybe he just doesn't want to do it anymore.
joe rogan
That's possible.
brendan schaub
That's the other thing.
Him and Rhonda got married.
Maybe it's just time to move on, which isn't a bad thing.
Sometimes everyone wants these guys to keep fighting, but maybe there's more for him out there.
He's a good guy, too.
That's the other thing.
joe rogan
The bad thing is when you don't move on and you keep fighting and you don't want to.
brendan schaub
Preach.
joe rogan
Ooh, knee in the body.
Volkov, turn it on.
brendan schaub
Ooh, lazy sidekick.
I gotta piss so hard.
joe rogan
Do it!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Let it go!
unidentified
Let it go!
joe rogan
This podcast has been brought to you by Life, ladies and gentlemen.
The smooth, sweet, relaxing experiences of life.
It's a good fight so far, Jamie.
You enjoying this?
jamie vernon
Yes.
unidentified
I like it.
jamie vernon
These dudes are huge.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're giant.
Stefan's troop is seven feet tall.
And this guy's, like, not quite as tall as him, but he's in the neighborhood.
I think Volkov's probably about 6'8".
How tall is he?
I'm guessing 6'8".
jamie vernon
He's four inches shorter.
joe rogan
So, yeah.
I think Struve is just seven feet, so pretty close.
It's an interesting situation the heavyweight division has because you essentially have Alistair Overeem, who really looks like the only credible challenge other than Francis Ngannou.
Francis Ngannou needs a big win over somebody.
That's a nasty cut.
He would have gotten it if he had beaten Junior Dos Santos.
That would have been his big...
Yeah, it's a big cut.
Francis would have gotten the possibility or the opportunity, rather, to get a big win over a real big name with Junior, but Junior pissed hot.
So now Francis has to wait for another opponent, but he's the most exciting challenger.
But you still have Alistair.
I think Derek Lewis is coming back.
Who just beat Derrick Lewis?
Somebody beat Derrick Lewis.
Oh, Mark Hunt.
He kind of beat his ass.
Wasn't the best fight for Derrick.
And then he quit.
He retired after it was over.
And he changed his mind.
Point is, there's only, like, legitimately, like, four or five real contenders that are exciting in the whole heavyweight division, which is just crazy.
Oh, my God, he poked him again.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's fighting for Doom in October.
joe rogan
Stefan Struve just poked Volkov again.
brendan schaub
God damn it.
They're too tall.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Too tall to be fighting.
joe rogan
Mark Goddard is going to straighten it out.
brendan schaub
There's some downsides to being too tall.
Like, you look like shitting clothes.
No shoes look cool.
You know, like, they're just too big.
No scuba gear, everyone's rent shit.
You ever think about that when you're too tall?
Yeah, he's got size 80 feet.
Name a car you're gonna get.
Oh, you want a GT3? Not up in there.
joe rogan
You wouldn't fit.
Yeah, like, that was the thing with Shaq.
He would buy cars and cut out the back seat.
brendan schaub
It sucks, man.
joe rogan
Put a giant-ass seat in there.
brendan schaub
There's only certain cars you can have.
joe rogan
You think there'll ever be a super heavyweight division?
brendan schaub
Never.
There's not enough heavyweights.
joe rogan
It seems to me that they shouldn't have a weight class.
It's just like the heavyweight division in boxing.
Like when David Hay fought Valuev.
I think Valuev is 300 pounds.
brendan schaub
Yeah, so you're saying it's just 206 and above to the limit?
joe rogan
225. Yeah, like 225. I think there should be a 205, a 225, and then have at it, fuckers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
225 on up.
brendan schaub
I wonder why they don't do that.
But there's also, you're going to get some slop.
Like, usually, typically, especially with the Golden Stitch around these days, if you're over 280, you're getting sloppy up in there.
It's bad for the product.
unidentified
The mountain.
brendan schaub
That guy ain't passing any test, including a math test.
He's doing nothing.
Nothing.
joe rogan
He might pass immigration.
brendan schaub
Fuck, it'd be tough, man.
joe rogan
I bet he could, like, some, like, um, what are those stones called?
What are those big fucking stones?
Atlas stones.
He'd probably pass an Atlas stone certification test.
brendan schaub
That's about it.
That's about it.
It's just bad for the...
joe rogan
Look at the size of that dude picking up rocks and shit.
brendan schaub
God, if he hears this and I run into him, it's going to be trouble.
joe rogan
I think you'll be okay.
brendan schaub
He's fucking huge.
unidentified
Conor McGregor whooped his ass.
joe rogan
He did.
You saw that.
brendan schaub
How did he die in Game of Thrones?
joe rogan
He got stabbed with a spear and then they brought him back to life with witchcraft.
brendan schaub
Bro.
joe rogan
I didn't know.
brendan schaub
Right now, they're trying to bring back life.
I didn't know they fucking did it, for God's sakes.
Last time I saw him is he crushed that guy's face like this.
joe rogan
It was two years ago, bro.
brendan schaub
But you know where I'm at in the goddamn game.
joe rogan
I thought you already passed it.
brendan schaub
Nah, man.
joe rogan
Well, trust me, it's worth watching.
brendan schaub
I bet.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I assumed they were bringing him back, though.
It's tough to avoid spoilers when shit came out years ago.
joe rogan
Boy.
These guys are rock'em sock'em robot in this bitch.
brendan schaub
Struve looks more tired.
Good thing he has that big part.
joe rogan
Cardio, man.
Cardio is such a giant factor in fights.
brendan schaub
Dude, in heavyweight, it is a huge...
joe rogan
In every division.
brendan schaub
But really heavyweight.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, that's it.
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
That's it.
brendan schaub
When Skyscraper falls down...
There you go.
joe rogan
That's it.
brendan schaub
I wonder how many more times we see Strew fight.
joe rogan
How many more times is he going to get KO'd?
How many times has he been KO'd?
Alistair flatlined him.
Travis Brown KO'd him.
This dude just KO'd him.
brendan schaub
Roy KO'd him.
joe rogan
Roy KO'd him.
brendan schaub
I feel like it looks worse because he's so goddamn tall.
You know what I'm saying?
Like if a Burger King burns down, we don't watch it.
If a skyscraper burns down, we're watching it.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
That's a good point.
He KO'd Stipe.
brendan schaub
Inside leg kick, then boom!
Yeah, he knocked out Stipe.
It's also heavyweight.
That's what you do.
People get knocked out, man.
joe rogan
Yep.
This is true.
unidentified
This is true.
brendan schaub
How many people watch this, you think?
joe rogan
Boom.
That uppercut.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's over.
joe rogan
Worldwide, how many people watch this?
brendan schaub
Nah, man.
joe rogan
U.S. Is this on Fight Pass?
brendan schaub
Just Fight Pass.
joe rogan
How many people on Fight Pass?
brendan schaub
The subscriptions, is it around $200,000?
jamie vernon
I have no idea.
joe rogan
I bet it's more than that, don't you think?
brendan schaub
I don't.
joe rogan
No?
So is the only way this is playing on Fight Pass?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you have to pay for it, right?
joe rogan
In Rotterdam.
brendan schaub
It's like on Fox Sports, Unschneiser over there or something.
joe rogan
It's a, like, that's a great move.
unidentified
Look at Bruce Buffer.
brendan schaub
Bruce looks exhausted.
joe rogan
I'm going to fire up.
Here we go.
brendan schaub
Here we go.
God, Bruce goes everywhere.
unidentified
He just...
joe rogan
Listen, if you want to keep that job, that's what you do.
brendan schaub
You have to go everywhere.
They use that Joe Martinez, though, too, because he speaks Spanish.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's good.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's really good.
I've known Joe forever.
And he was in WC. But if Bruce wants to take a break, he can.
You don't have to fly to Rotterdam for one night.
joe rogan
You know, that's one of the reasons why he didn't want to get his knee operated on.
He didn't want to take some time off.
He's got a blown ACL. Did you see the video of him blowing his ACL out?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's classic.
unidentified
Yeah, sad.
brendan schaub
He's doing like a fucking karaoke thing.
joe rogan
And he fell.
brendan schaub
In Las Vegas.
Man, who the fuck?
They took Francis off the car, didn't they?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Breaking my heart.
joe rogan
Well, the Junior Dos Santos thing breaks my heart, too, because it was just a diuretic.
Like, I don't get it.
They found a trace amount of a diuretic in his system.
Like, that is not helping him.
That is not going to help him fight.
You know, I mean, it's just not.
The only thing that could be is you could say that a diuretic might be used to mask steroids.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
I think they do do that.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Right?
brendan schaub
So there's potential that he was masking something, which I don't think so.
But also, no one else wants to step up the plate and fight Francis?
joe rogan
Who wants to?
That guy's terrifying.
Fuck all that.
brendan schaub
Short notice?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He wanted Alistair Overeem.
Everyone was like, nah.
Alistair's like, mm, I'm good.
Alistair Overeem turned it down?
joe rogan
Alistair's right about to fight for the title.
Who else is there?
brendan schaub
You got Verdum versus Derrick Lewis now.
Derrick Lewis saving people in Houston.
Shout out Derrick Lewis.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Better person than us.
joe rogan
Saving people with his truck.
brendan schaub
Saving people with his goddamn truck.
joe rogan
Well, who else?
I mean, when Derrick fights Verdum, if Verdum wins, he's got a real good...
Real good argument for him being the next in line.
But if he doesn't, or if it's not a good fight, or if anything goes sideways, you got Alistair.
That's it.
Who else is there?
brendan schaub
Francis.
joe rogan
Francis hasn't have a big name or a big person yet.
If Francis beat Junior Dos Santos, you've got a big name.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we're going Sizzler.
joe rogan
Yeah, but...
brendan schaub
The heavyweight division is so rough.
joe rogan
The potential Francis has is absolutely world champion potential, 100%.
But it's just like, do you make the fight right now?
Who else does he fight?
brendan schaub
The JDS was the...
Mark Hunt.
joe rogan
Francis?
brendan schaub
Mark Hunt's finding some random Russian who's ranked 11 in Australia.
They don't want to take him off that.
Mark Hunt Francis makes sense.
Mark Hunt JDS makes sense.
You give him a big name so he can starch him, then you give him a title shot.
joe rogan
Well, JDS already fought Mark Hunt.
Remember?
JDS wheel kicked him back in the day.
But I don't know if JDS is the same anymore.
brendan schaub
Definitely not.
But he's still a tough character.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He beat Rothwell, remember that?
joe rogan
Super looking forward.
He looked good against Rothwell.
brendan schaub
But great.
joe rogan
And I think that's when Rockwell might have peed electric.
Number four.
brendan schaub
Peed electric, it's true.
joe rogan
And then, okay, Kane, obviously we're missing Kane.
But the reason why we're missing Kane is we're not completely convinced that Kane's healthy.
brendan schaub
No, we have no idea when he's going to fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, who knows?
brendan schaub
God, I'd watch Francis versus Kane, but Kane's fighting Stipe next.
When he's healthy, that's the fight they're going to make.
That's what they want to make.
joe rogan
Yeah, but man, I mean, when he's healthy, those are three weird words.
brendan schaub
Yeah, those are kind of key.
Is he retiring?
It sounded like Dan Hart said, I love you.
You can never tell.
unidentified
He said, I'm sure we'll see every improved Stefan's Drew when he's ready to return to the octagon.
Oh, look at my bow tie.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I just feel like at heavyweight, so let's say Kane will get healthy, so you have Stipe Kane next, which is an amazing fight.
Alistair's win over Fabrizio was awful.
Francis Alistair, man.
Or Mark Hunt.
So Mark Hunt's fighting that...
Mark Hunt's supposed to fight that Merson cat.
joe rogan
What do you think about DC versus Stipe?
brendan schaub
Love it.
I like DC's chance in that fight too.
joe rogan
He's got a real good chance.
DC was a murderer at heavyweight.
brendan schaub
Beat the shit out of Josh Barnett.
joe rogan
Not losing any weight.
Didn't cut a goddamn thing.
Shorter than everybody.
Threw him around like frisbees.
brendan schaub
Straight up.
Goddamn.
But look, after seven in both divisions, it gets super suspect.
joe rogan
It says, see, it says champion John Jones.
It should just be a dot, dot, dot for now.
brendan schaub
It should be needle, needle, needle.
unidentified
Oh, how dare you.
brendan schaub
Is that too much?
Just piss, piss, piss.
joe rogan
Just have the pills be like a dot.
Dot, dot, dot.
brendan schaub
Look at the fights coming up.
So UFC fight night, Rockhold Branch.
Okay.
Shogun Saint Prue, too.
How dare you.
Ferguson Lee, though.
That's what I'm banking on, baby.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good fight, but I like Rockhold Branch, too, man.
I really do.
I like that fight.
brendan schaub
Nunes Shofjanko's fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's going to be fun.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're doing that one, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I am doing that one.
I was going to be in Edmonton as it is, but now they have two world title fights on the card.
They have the Bantamweight title, and then they have Mighty Mouse too.
brendan schaub
Mighty Mouse Ray Borg.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a weird one, right?
Because Mighty Mouse wants to break the record.
But he had an opportunity to break the record if he fought TJ. And a lot of people were like...
brendan schaub
Turned the TJ fight down.
And I heard they offered him good money, and he still was like, nah, give me Ray Borg.
joe rogan
Well, he said he wants TJ to fight someone at 125 pounds first.
He wants to know that he can make the weight and get a win.
brendan schaub
But even TJ, you know, he was like, I can make the weight.
I was on track to make weight.
I don't know.
It sounds like a lot of excuses from TJ. I love TJ. But also him fighting Ray Borg.
joe rogan
Well, he's really close to history.
I mean, I get it and I don't get it.
brendan schaub
I get it and I don't.
Because you want to be a star, you've got to fight TJ. You've got to fight Dominic Cruz.
You've got to fight Cody Garbrandt.
You're just going to stay...
You know, Ray Borg's a monster.
Has a great nickname.
Has Mexican Devil, for God's sakes.
However, it does nothing.
But it does nothing for Demetrius, besides, I guess, breaking the record.
joe rogan
Right, but he might not even make the weight.
Ray Borg's missed the weight a couple times.
There's a lot going on.
How many times has Ray Borg missed weight?
Let's see if we can find that.
I want to say he's missed it twice.
It's a tricky weight class.
It's like when John Lineker was the big thing, everybody's thinking about him fighting for the title.
brendan schaub
He was huge.
He just couldn't make the weight.
joe rogan
He just couldn't do it.
He just missed it half the time.
brendan schaub
Headline said, Ray Borg, sick of fans.
joe rogan
Is that what it said?
brendan schaub
Sick of fans for missing weight.
joe rogan
Hmm, what do we got here?
Does it say?
Let me know when you find it, Jeremy.
brendan schaub
But like Ray Borg versus DJ, it does nothing.
No one cares.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it doesn't...
No one cares, but it does get him to that magical number.
brendan schaub
For personal reasons, it's a good powerful lizard on his shirt.
For personal reasons, it's good for DJ. Why does he have a lizard on his shirt?
Lizards are awesome.
joe rogan
Is he super into lizards?
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
That's a good question.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I like fancy stuff.
I would not put a lizard on my suit.
unidentified
Dan, I want you to wear this pewter lizard.
brendan schaub
Maybe it stands for something.
unidentified
It stands for our love.
Dan, wear the lizard.
brendan schaub
Wear the lizard for me.
unidentified
What will I do to explain it?
brendan schaub
Doesn't Dan want to fight?
joe rogan
Yeah, they fucked him over, man.
He's got like some issue with his heart that is totally non-life-threatening, and he's in fantastic shape, or he was before he stepped away, and they were saying that he has like an irregular heartbeat, like he has an extra heartbeat.
brendan schaub
But with that stuff, you know it's tough, man, because it's such a risk for the commissions to grant him to fight, and let's say his heart fucking exploded in there or some shit.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't think anything...
I think he's fine.
He's super fit.
brendan schaub
But also, what's he gonna do?
What are you gonna do, Dan?
Like, you're great at commentating, you got this gig, what are you gonna do, stop doing that and come back and compete at 170?
You beating Woodley?
joe rogan
I think he'd come back at 155. He looks very lean.
Okay, let's do 55. Doesn't he look very lean?
He doesn't look the same anymore.
brendan schaub
True.
True.
joe rogan
Who knows?
Who knows?
jamie vernon
I missed it twice.
joe rogan
Missed it twice?
jamie vernon
He won both those fights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See, that ain't good, though.
brendan schaub
It's not good.
joe rogan
It's not good when you got a guy with a lot of pressure on him, headed towards the title.
Dude, start looking for excuses.
They start, you know, if you lost, if you, on two separate occasions, you haven't made the way.
brendan schaub
That's like the argument with Khabib, right?
We've been over that.
jamie vernon
He lost a fight in between those two fights.
He did?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who'd he lose to?
jamie vernon
Justin Scoggins.
joe rogan
Scoggins is no fucking joke.
brendan schaub
Tough customer.
joe rogan
Where's he at these days?
brendan schaub
125 just does nothing for me.
I'm a sizist.
I know.
Is Mighty Mouse your pound for pound number one?
He's still your number one?
joe rogan
He is now for sure.
John was my number one after Merck in D.C. Yeah, I moved John closer to the number one position, although I think they're debatable and interchangeable.
Because I think Mighty Mouse wins in these spectacular ways.
brendan schaub
But against who?
joe rogan
But against who?
That's the big...
brendan schaub
He's beating, you know, it's not like that's the toughest division at all.
joe rogan
Wow, he lost to Pedro Munoz?
brendan schaub
Goddamn!
Who is that?
jamie vernon
Sasaki.
brendan schaub
Oh, word.
joe rogan
Those are the two guys.
Hmm, interesting.
Sasaki.
brendan schaub
The only argument with Mighty Mouse is who's he beating, you know?
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
You thought Cejudo was 7-0, for God's sakes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you know what, man?
There's a lot of, like, super technical guys in that division.
I just feel like there's no one...
I mean, Cejudo was really green in terms of MMA. I mean, he really had not been fighting MMA that long.
He's a fantastic wrestler, but his MMA experience is only a couple of years.
unidentified
Too much too soon.
joe rogan
Too much too soon, yeah.
brendan schaub
But that's the division.
A guy 7-0 gets a title shot.
There's not a lot going on there.
joe rogan
I need to stop being a fatty.
brendan schaub
Well, that helps me feel comfortable when you get to make weight.
joe rogan
Wade Borg, I'm missing weight.
I need to stop being a fatty.
That seems like fat shaming himself.
I'm not behind that.
brendan schaub
So it's the co-main event?
Them and then Nunez, Shevchenko?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How many pay-per-view buys does that do?
Any guess?
joe rogan
You tell me.
Neil Magny and Dos Anjos.
Ooh, that's actually interesting.
Rafael Dos Anjos is back.
What do you think he can do at 170?
He looked goddamn good in his debut at 170. You're talking about Dos Anjos?
Yeah.
He looked very good against Tarek Safedine.
brendan schaub
He did look good.
joe rogan
He looks thick as fuck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he looked shredded in that picture.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that's how he looks when he's fighting, too.
Is that pre-USADA? Is that picture pre-USADA? No comment.
Shading.
Angles.
unidentified
Instagram.
brendan schaub
Instagram filters.
Those are filters, bro.
Dude, I'll tell you the funnest fight on that card.
Jeremy Stevens, Melendez.
Gilbert Melendez.
joe rogan
That's right.
Nobody even thought about that.
brendan schaub
That's the funnest fight.
joe rogan
That's a phenomenal fight.
brendan schaub
It's a good one.
joe rogan
That's a chaos fight.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
So wait a minute.
Is El Nino going down to 45 or is Jeremy Stevens going up?
unidentified
It's 45. It says it there.
joe rogan
It's 45. So Gilbert is cutting weight down to 45?
Has he ever done that before?
brendan schaub
Dude, they still have fucking JDS and Francis on this card.
Oh, take that down.
How dare you.
joe rogan
Take that down, UFC.com.
brendan schaub
If you want to tune in and be like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Where, um, what, what weight is it?
Does it say?
Most positive it's 45. So he's cutting weight and he's going down to 45. That's crazy.
That's interesting.
Boy, I don't know.
He's never done that before and he's like, he's got to be like 35, 36, no?
unidentified
Yeah.
35?
joe rogan
So he really is...
See, it says 155 there.
We'll find out.
We'll find out soon.
Anything more to add, Brendan Shaw, before we wrap this bitch up?
brendan schaub
I don't think so, man.
It's been real.
It's been real, brother.
joe rogan
Finally we got back together and did one of these, huh?
Even with a half a crew.
brendan schaub
Half the crew.
We have no conspiracies with Eddie.
Brian not dropping some old school knowledge on us.
You're lucky because in Rotterdam, I'm sure he had some gems for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably explained the government to us.
brendan schaub
He explained the whole government system.
And then Eddie, I went, man!
I feel a little flat today, and Eddie went, did you say flat?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And then just went off.
joe rogan
Eddie's full on these days, apparently.
They were debating whether or not North Korea is, like, what's happening in North Korea.
Like, he doesn't believe any of it.
And they were debating, like, why you don't fall off the earth.
Is that what was going on?
jamie vernon
If the earth is spinning so fast and we're going so fast through and it's on a turn, how come we're not just flying off of it?
brendan schaub
When you say debating, debating who?
joe rogan
Other dudes that are there with them.
It's like one of those things where you could find out about gravity.
You just do a Google search and read some papers about how mass works and how it works in space and what gravity is and what causes the force of gravity.
They've done experiments for hundreds of years.
brendan schaub
Well, that's fake news according to them, Joe.
You know that's fake news.
joe rogan
I think he's enjoying himself.
I think half the fun...
brendan schaub
You don't think he really believes it?
joe rogan
I think he does.
But half the reason why he believes is because he's enjoying himself.
He's spicing up life with these wacky conspiracies.
Everything's a goddamn conspiracy.
brendan schaub
Everything.
joe rogan
You never hear Eddie look at something that's in the news and go, well, we're just looking into it too much.
unidentified
Never!
brendan schaub
Everything!
Even that Chester Bennington, the Linkin Park guy, he's like, you know about that, right?
I'm like, I don't.
I don't, man.
I definitely don't.
joe rogan
Well, the problem with that one is, man, the guy's dead.
If he killed himself and he's got kids and a family.
brendan schaub
Six kids, Mr. Rogan.
Six kids.
joe rogan
That's a hard one.
It's a hard pill to swallow.
brendan schaub
Stuff pill to swallow, yeah.
But also, I think you need people like Eddie in this world.
I like the Eddie's in the world.
I don't want everyone to agree with all the news.
I think it's fun, to a certain point.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the reasons why Eddie's such a jiu-jitsu genius.
It's because he marches to the beat of his own drummer.
I mean, he really does.
He has, like, ideas in his head, and then he's just like, we're gonna make this fucking work.
brendan schaub
But when you say drum, it's not like your standard drum.
It's like a starship drum, and there's that alien with seven arms banging it while we're...
joe rogan
We're not sure if the Eclipse is real or if NASA... It's a NASA hoax to sell sunglasses.
Ah!
brendan schaub
See, I enjoy it.
Callan, it drives them nuts, but I'm like, I want colorful people in the world, man.
joe rogan
Callan is almost as silly in the other direction.
Correct.
Callan never believes anything's a conspiracy.
brendan schaub
Ever.
joe rogan
He thinks Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, and he'll tell you about, actually, you should read Vincent Bugliosi's book.
Like, yeah, I have.
It sucks.
You didn't read it.
brendan schaub
Then I feel like we're in the middle.
You and I should I'm like, I could see that!
I get it!
I'll entertain it, but until we start talking about the earth is flat, then I'm out.
joe rogan
Any shit that doesn't really involve me, where I don't I either have a stake in it or I don't actually know what happened.
I don't have a dog in that fight.
brendan schaub
Me neither.
joe rogan
But I like hearing both sides.
Yeah.
And I'll swing back and forth in my own head.
Like, I don't convince myself.
My own self.
I'll, like, say something.
I'll go, man, you're probably wrong about that.
And then I'll start arguing against myself.
Oh, dude, what about this?
Dude, I was convinced that Bigfoot was actually real for, like, 20 minutes.
brendan schaub
Goddamn Joe Rogan.
Not lately.
joe rogan
No, a long time ago.
unidentified
I was so high.
joe rogan
I was watching a video of Bigfoot.
The famous video, and I was like, what if Bigfoot's real and I'm just an asshole?
Like, what if this whole time I've been saying, it's fake, it's fake.
Meanwhile, it's not fake.
And that poor guy actually captured it on film.
brendan schaub
That poor guy.
But see, if you sat me with a Bigfoot expert, I'm not so close-minded, I'm just going to shut him down.
I'm going to listen to it and then be like, maybe!
joe rogan
Until you realize there are no Bigfoot experts.
Every Bigfoot expert you meet is kind of a loon.
brendan schaub
It's full of shit.
joe rogan
A lot of them are super nice guys, but when you get deep in them...
I had one dude on the podcast tell me he would cut his pinky off to find out if Sasquatch was real.
He's a grown man.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Like, I had a guy who wanted to follow the eclipse through all the states I drive with.
joe rogan
He flew up to Portland.
You want to suck your dick before or after you put the sunglasses on?
brendan schaub
See, that's why I said, he's the maintenance guy around my house.
He told me, get the fuck out.
I can't have you around my kid.
Weird.
There's some weird people, man.
joe rogan
There are definitely weird people.
brendan schaub
Weird.
But it's fun to believe some of that stuff.
joe rogan
Over and over and over again.
Let's look at the eclipse over and over and over again.
brendan schaub
With these glasses.
joe rogan
I could look at a picture of the eclipse and go, I get it.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
And then I'm done.
brendan schaub
I'm good.
I'm fucking good.
I'm good.
And then he was saying the next one's in like 24 years in Dallas.
joe rogan
Okay, I'll be there.
See ya.
I'll meet you there, bro.
Talk to you then, okay?
brendan schaub
He's like, I'm gonna buy a property down there and rent it out.
Oh, good move.
You're talking about for the one fucking day?
It's a terrible business idea.
joe rogan
Super smart.
Plan for one day, 20 years from now.
brendan schaub
One day, you fucking moron.
joe rogan
You're gonna clean up.
You'll make like $100.
brendan schaub
You're gonna kill it, bro.
joe rogan
How much property are you buying, man?
brendan schaub
Probably charge them double.
joe rogan
Like, what are you doing?
Well, they're just going to stand outside your house with glasses and then get back in their car and go, yeah, I was done.
brendan schaub
That's it.
They don't need to stay the night for that.
joe rogan
And does it happen in the sun?
Like, is it the summertime?
brendan schaub
We don't know.
joe rogan
Because summertime in Dallas is like summertime on the sun.
brendan schaub
Miserable.
joe rogan
It's like, you might as well be living on the sun.
Summertime in Dallas is like 185 degrees.
You go outside, you burst into flames.
No one's going to stand outside your fucking stupid house with those weird sunglasses.
brendan schaub
The only thing is, who's crazier?
That guy who follows the eclipse and he's boring as fuck, but at least the eclipse is real, or a guy like Eddie Bravo who believes in Bigfoot, Flat Earth, conspiracy theories?
joe rogan
Eddie's funnier.
brendan schaub
Different.
unidentified
So he wins.
brendan schaub
No, I'm not saying Eddie.
I love it.
Eddie's funny.
However, I'm saying...
joe rogan
Who's crazier?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Who do you think is crazy?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
It's a case by case, you know?
Like, do you believe in Ghost?
joe rogan
No.
I'm gonna say this right now.
brendan schaub
But you chase Bigfoot.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
You believe in Ghost, Jamie?
unidentified
I don't think so.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're open to the idea.
See, if I'm Eddie right now, I'd go.
When you said you think so, I'd go.
Look into it.
joe rogan
One of the guys I had on my podcast is named Rupert Sheldrake, and he has a very compelling thought.
He thinks that everything has a memory.
That memory is not just a function of your neurons and your brains and your cells.
Because here's the thing, you have memories from the time when you were a child, right?
From the time you were a little kid.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Almost every cell in your body regenerates every seven years.
Where are those memories being stored?
Are they in the neurons?
Where are your memories that you definitely have of your childhood?
Or are those memories not really your memories anymore?
Is it you remember having those memories so you have sort of like a rehashed version of it that you put in your head and sort of almost like retelling yourself a story?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
There's a lot of shit that I know happened when I was in high school, but quite honestly, I don't really have a good memory of it.
I can tell you the facts.
brendan schaub
Is that just a function of the human brain where it can't remember so much data because we only use, what, 7%?
That's bullshit.
joe rogan
That's not true.
That 7% of the brain is something that people repeat over and over again.
It was in that movie, Lucy.
It's a myth.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
Yes, absolutely.
brendan schaub
How much do we use?
joe rogan
There's different parts of your brain that are responsible for different functions.
brendan schaub
Frontal lobe, all that.
joe rogan
There's no 7%.
You use your brain.
You use your whole brain.
brendan schaub
Then why do some people's brains, why are some people's brains like, you know, they can remember to the T when they were a kid and like all these memories, and there's some people that just don't.
joe rogan
Some people have better memories, for sure.
My memories are pretty good for facts.
Pretty good.
I'm just being...
I mean, I remember...
Don't get me wrong.
It's like, oh man, maybe stop smoking weed.
You can remember high school.
I remember massive amounts of data from high school.
What I'm saying is, I don't have a real memory of it.
Like, I can remember getting laid in high school, right?
I can remember when it happened.
brendan schaub
You can remember key events.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you remember scary events, you remember happy events, you remember sad events, you remember big moments, big explosions in your consciousness, right?
brendan schaub
They say your brain's designed to remember negative things more so than positive things.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
Just because of dying.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
What are you going to remember positive things all day and pat yourself on the back?
brendan schaub
Be awesome.
joe rogan
And then you get hit in the head by a rock.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Somebody eats you.
I think...
I think what we think as a memory, we'd like to think of a memory like, look, I've got a memory of that fight.
I've got a memory of that combination that landed.
I got a memory of Stefan Struve crumpling up.
I see it pretty clear.
brendan schaub
Right now.
joe rogan
Right.
But even right now, it's sort of like a little shitty slideshow.
Even right now.
brendan schaub
Because you don't care.
joe rogan
I don't see it clearly.
brendan schaub
But you also don't care.
I'm going to walk out of here and I won't remember anything about it.
But it just happened.
joe rogan
But it just happened.
brendan schaub
But it's not important to me, so I don't store it away.
Whereas certain stuff, like my set or my big appointment on Tuesday, I remember that stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I get it.
I remember flashes of things.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
And this is weird coming from me because I have a very good memory on paper.
If you think of the amount of things that I can recall during a podcast, the amount of fights that I can recall during broadcasts and in the middle of a fight, all the different martial arts moves I have in my head and who used them against who and where and what.
But that's a different thing.
That's knowledge and statistics and Those are numbers.
And numbers and memory.
And I remember certain clips of it.
But as far as my own life, I did two sets last night.
Killed.
Don't remember any of it.
brendan schaub
Were you too high?
joe rogan
That might have been a problem.
brendan schaub
But here's the other thing.
joe rogan
What is this?
Highly superior autobiographical memory, the detailed recollection of events that occurred in the distant past.
unidentified
Hmm.
jamie vernon
This is what, like, Mary Lou Henner has.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, she's got it crazy.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's cool shit.
joe rogan
She can tell you, you could say, February 22nd, and she can go, February 22nd, 1978, and she goes, that was Tuesday.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's like Rain Man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's brilliant.
Most people don't like that.
joe rogan
She can tell you who's president.
brendan schaub
But you know what's weird is like, there's certain things when people go, remember we did this?
I'm like, God, not really.
But then something will trigger, like a smell or a song, and then it comes.
You pull the file.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
You find the file in the back.
brendan schaub
There it is.
joe rogan
You're like, you're in your closet digging around.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look what I got a box.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, look at this.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you see like some pictures from high school, you'll go, whoa.
brendan schaub
But a smell, a scent, someone to say something.
joe rogan
Something.
unidentified
Or a movie.
brendan schaub
I'm like, God, I remember when I was that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why it's really dangerous to convict people based on witness testimony if they see a crime.
People, they don't really remember things right.
brendan schaub
And I'm sure the night before, like, God, we'll remember this, and God, he is an animal, and they create this narrative that they wish they want to see and they think it was real.
joe rogan
And also part of it is a real problem if it was traumatic.
What is this?
Remembering a crime that you didn't commit.
jamie vernon
There's people that can plant false memories in their own head?
Not in their own head.
And when they're trying to get false convictions and whatnot, they can make people confess to stuff they didn't do.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Oh, that makes sense.
Because the pressure of being interrogated is crazy for people.
brendan schaub
Well, look at them making a murderer.
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
I think he got out.
Brendan?
He fucked the Brendan name, but Brendan Dacity?
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are not convinced that making a murderer was correct.
There's a lot of people that are convinced that it was biased.
It was biased in the way of making that guy look like he was innocent.
brendan schaub
I've heard the same thing.
It was good for the documentary.
He's innocent, but when you look into it, he's a bad, terrible person.
joe rogan
He could have very well been guilty and they framed him.
That's possible, too.
It's like the Mark Furman OJ thing.
People think that Mark Furman planted those gloves on OJ, but who doesn't think OJ's guilty?
Who thinks O.J. is innocent?
Let me know.
brendan schaub
Well, I live in this little neighborhood, so I do.
Shout out to O.J. Simpson.
That Mark Furman, that was just for the defense to paint that, or the prosecution, right?
Paint that narrative to maybe put that seed in everyone's head.
But everyone knows fucking O.J. did it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he planted evidence.
You know?
Like, doing that, doing that alone.
Sneaky shit.
Yeah, most people think OJ did it.
There's a few people that think, like, I've heard the crazy ones, like OJ's son did it or something like that.
I'm like, what?
brendan schaub
I'm so balls deep in the OJ stuff.
Anything he does, I watch it.
But, and like I said to my brother, I went, God, I wish I really knew the truth about OJ. And my brother looks at me and goes, are you shitting me?
Like, we all know the truth, man.
But people put all these different stories out there where you're like, God, maybe he didn't do it.
But I just want to know for a fact that How did it really go down?
Do you think he's ever going to come out and be like, listen?
joe rogan
No.
No, I don't think he did.
I don't think he necessarily remembers anymore.
brendan schaub
You think he was just in a frenzy?
joe rogan
I think it's entirely possible that he's a sociopath and a narcissist.
brendan schaub
With brain trauma.
joe rogan
Yeah, with brain trauma.
And I think that a lot of times narcissists and sociopaths, like to that degree, like he's just charming the world.
Hey, I'm OJ Simpson.
unidentified
I'm a good guy.
joe rogan
I've always been a good guy.
I basically live a conflict-free life.
I just want to go be with my family.
He's got a weird thing going on, man.
Like he's trying to paint this image all day long of him being a good guy.
Meanwhile, he's got these Demons in his mind.
brendan schaub
You know, his dad was gay.
And they said that's why he would beat, like, a lot of, like, he was so upset about that.
See, I don't trust that guy.
jamie vernon
Did you watch that thing when he gave that, uh...
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Didn't he, like, snapped at the judge?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
That little part that was super weird.
You definitely shouldn't do that when you're trying to get...
brendan schaub
What he'd snap at him for.
joe rogan
He got upset about something.
jamie vernon
He corrected him on something.
He's like, I said I wasn't there or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I forget what it was.
brendan schaub
Oh, like the Las Vegas room?
joe rogan
Definitely didn't handle it well.
Look, man, when you're a man and you're locked up with other men as prisoners all day long, forever, it's a horrific existence.
And it's amazing that he was able to get through it at all and then still pull off that kind of charm.
brendan schaub
And not commit suicide.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They said he was killing it in there.
He was the prime example of a prisoner and he started organizing church groups and feeding everyone's lunches and he was cool.
joe rogan
Wow.
I don't find meaning in that shit.
I wonder if he has a deep...
What's going on?
jamie vernon
He's Chloe's dad.
brendan schaub
Yeah, a lot of people think he's Chloe's dad.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
What?
Chloe's not half black.
brendan schaub
They just don't love black guys.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
brendan schaub
You know OJ was super close with Kardashian.
Strong rumor, yeah.
No one would be surprised.
joe rogan
I would.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
How dare you?
joe rogan
My point was like, what kind of memory of the event...
Okay, we both agree he did it, right?
So if he did it, what kind of memory does he have?
Do you remember sticking the knife in them?
brendan schaub
You don't think you remember that traumatic event?
joe rogan
I wonder.
I wonder if you're a sociopath, and I wonder if you've been telling people for all these years that you're innocent.
brendan schaub
Oh, you remember.
joe rogan
I'm trying to find the real killer.
brendan schaub
I'm trying to get out and find the real killer.
joe rogan
Not once did he bring up the real killer.
I'm trying to find my wife's killer.
The reason why, I mean, he never said that during any of the parole thing.
brendan schaub
When he came out, he did.
Oh, no, not on this one.
joe rogan
I'm trying to find my wife's killer.
brendan schaub
Yeah, never on this one.
joe rogan
Someone killed my wife.
brendan schaub
That ship sailed a long time ago.
joe rogan
It was not me.
I'm being tried for it.
I'm being unjustly accused.
There's a civil case that I lost.
brendan schaub
He came out with a book if I did it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was going to, but he didn't release that book.
brendan schaub
I thought he did.
No.
And all the proceeds went to the gold.
joe rogan
No.
I believe, I'm pretty sure, that the publishing company backed out of that.
brendan schaub
Probably smart on their part.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You can't do that.
brendan schaub
Dude, will you have him on the podcast?
Oh.
joe rogan
I don't know if he would do it, but if he did do it, yeah, I'd have him on.
unidentified
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd have to have him on.
I did it.
jamie vernon
The if is hidden right there.
Remember, that's what they had to do.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
If I did it in the I. Buy it right now on Amazon.
brendan schaub
Buy OJ Simpson.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, that's still...
I thought they pulled that.
Confessions of the killer in all caps.
Fred Goldman and Kim Goldman.
jamie vernon
I think that's how it happened.
What?
So they're getting all the money.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they get all the money.
joe rogan
They get all the money, but did he really write the full story?
jamie vernon
They awarded the rights to them.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because double jeopardy, right?
He can't be tried for it anymore.
jamie vernon
Can't make money off the crime is sort of what it is.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much money, and also they have a civil case against him, how much money do you think he made off that book?
brendan schaub
God, you don't make that much money off books unless you're just fucking...
joe rogan
You do if you're like Bill O'Reilly.
brendan schaub
If you're J.K. Rollins or some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're writing books that old people read, they buy a lot of books.
If I did it...
brendan schaub
We kind of know how you'd do it if you did it.
Do we really need to read the book?
joe rogan
Kitchen knife, run.
brendan schaub
Yeah, stab both of them.
joe rogan
Go to Chicago.
Call the lawyers.
brendan schaub
Come back.
joe rogan
Come back.
Act dumb.
brendan schaub
Yeah, act dumb.
joe rogan
Rinse.
brendan schaub
Kardashian helps me out.
joe rogan
Rinse, repeat.
Does it say how many books they sold?
jamie vernon
I'm looking down.
joe rogan
I gotta think it was not much.
brendan schaub
I didn't even know it was out and I'm all about this.
joe rogan
He got some sort of crazy settlement, right?
It was like a $35 million settlement or something like that?
jamie vernon
$33.5 million.
joe rogan
$33 million.
But how much has he been paid?
I used to know his Ron Goldman's sister.
brendan schaub
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How'd you know her?
joe rogan
She worked on something that I did.
She was very nice.
Very cool chick.
brendan schaub
Brian ran into the dad in Phoenix selling men's shirts.
joe rogan
What's the big pause?
brendan schaub
I was trying to think what he was selling, but I remember selling men's golf shirts or some shit.
The struggle is real for Ron Goldman.
Game over.
You lose a child and it goes down like that.
joe rogan
It's just hard to believe.
That that guy is now going to get out.
What do you do?
I mean, you only got a certain amount of time left on this planet.
brendan schaub
I'd probably get a gun.
Yeah, a hammer.
It's going to be tough to get out of OJ. He's still pretty athletic and black.
So I'd probably get a gun and when he gets out, drive down to Florida or if he comes back to Brentwood.
He's going to make it super easy on you and probably shoot him.
joe rogan
Could be headed to reality TV. That's what I called!
unidentified
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
Watching that documentary about him, I completely forgot about all the weird stuff he was doing before he did go to jail.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
He was making that show in Vegas where he had...
I didn't even know about it.
Seeing it on the documentary shows everything.
brendan schaub
He did a rap.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a rap song after he murdered his wife.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon
Right before he went to jail in like 2005 or 6. He had a rap.
joe rogan
I'm innocent.
I'm innocent.
brendan schaub
It was like, the juice is loose.
The juice is loose.
I'm innocent.
Let's hear it.
joe rogan
Are we going to get pulled off of YouTube for the OJ Simpson song?
brendan schaub
No way.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Oh, my God.
Wait a minute.
We got to play this.
Let's ride.
Let's ride this.
Give us some volume.
unidentified
I'm OJ Simpson.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Ooh, these girls.
brendan schaub
Boats and hoes.
Boats and hoes.
jamie vernon
The remix.
unidentified
It has escapability.
joe rogan
Who are these girls?
brendan schaub
Hoes.
jamie vernon
They got white face on.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They all have titties out and everything?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is real?
brendan schaub
This is a real music video.
America's Most Wanted.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
He's dressed like Elvis.
I can't believe this is real.
unidentified
Look at those titties!
joe rogan
Give me some volume here.
People hear this, right?
People on YouTube are hearing this?
jamie vernon
YouTube can't hear it, no.
joe rogan
No?
Oh.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
It'll get taken down, probably.
brendan schaub
Not if you play just the audio.
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
No way!
joe rogan
O.J. Simpson, Get Juiced.
What year did this happen?
brendan schaub
Like 2004?
2005?
jamie vernon
I have no idea.
joe rogan
This is insane.
This is insane.
It's all these girls taking their pants off.
jamie vernon
See, he was doing a prank show and you got juiced was the tagline.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
He did a...
He did a fucking prank show after he murdered two people.
He's got a midget on his lap.
This is insane.
brendan schaub
I can't believe you've never seen this.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
All you player haters.
Get on your knees and get some of these nuts.
brendan schaub
And then grabbed his crotch.
joe rogan
He said, these nuts.
This is crazy.
And you...
And you gotta think, is this 2005?
Is that what you said?
So he's gotta be like 60 years old when this is happening.
brendan schaub
Damn, it only has 15,000 views.
joe rogan
Well, check in in a couple of days.
brendan schaub
We just helped the juice out.
joe rogan
I just don't think people knew about this.
brendan schaub
Another reason he needs to come on the goddamn podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe he'll come on dressed like Elvis again.
brendan schaub
No, maybe he'll come on dressed as Whiteface.
joe rogan
Goddamn, this is nuts.
brendan schaub
He's a terrible person.
joe rogan
I have no idea.
I wonder if he was like, look, I gotta make money.
brendan schaub
And someone threw this idea at him?
Look at him with a do-rag and...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Don't piss him off, though.
joe rogan
Very strange.
jamie vernon
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
The struggle is real.
joe rogan
This is so strange.
brendan schaub
I can't believe this.
This rap song where it's like, it's hot in the streets in LA. That is true.
Yeah, he was like a legit rap song, though.
This is the remix, Jamie.
joe rogan
He's got a good point.
Both of them are good.
We don't need to watch anymore.
brendan schaub
Dude, what a terrible person.
joe rogan
I wonder what he's...
I mean, I feel like a guy like that probably, like, would do anything.
It's like, we gotta figure out some way to do it, and who's gonna be working with him?
You're not gonna get, like, the top minds of Hollywood.
brendan schaub
Fuck, no, no one's...
I mean, he might pop up on some reality show, but, dude, imagine those hoes.
They were saying he was getting more women than ever when he got out.
Like, when he was out of trial.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
They said he went to Florida and was just...
Dicking girls down.
joe rogan
Now?
Like recently?
brendan schaub
Now you're killing it.
joe rogan
Just got out.
brendan schaub
What type of psycho chicks are hooking up with OJ right now?
joe rogan
Skanks.
There's people that are attracted to murderers.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
It's a normal thing.
brendan schaub
Like serial killers kill the game.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's weird.
Yeah, girls like send pictures and there's something that some women like about bad people.
brendan schaub
Charles Manson tried to get married and I guess the court was like, nah man.
Maybe he did get married.
jamie vernon
He said it's off.
brendan schaub
Charles Manson's like, no, you crazy, bitch.
joe rogan
Yeah, Manson's like, look.
brendan schaub
Look at that crazy hoe.
joe rogan
Wow, she's hot.
brendan schaub
Not bad.
Look at his high and tight fade, though.
joe rogan
I like that, too.
He's still got the swastika tattooed on his forehead, too.
That's hilarious.
brendan schaub
That's never gonna go away.
Come on.
joe rogan
Maybe get that lasered off, bro.
brendan schaub
No, what?
joe rogan
Get even more pussy.
brendan schaub
Dude, every time he's up for parole, you ever see him go nuts?
Like, he just fucks himself.
unidentified
He goes opposite of fucking- I eat your garbage, man!
joe rogan
You made me!
You people made me!
Your system!
Your sister made me, man!
jamie vernon
Why does Duncan look so much like him?
joe rogan
He doesn't.
That's racist.
unidentified
Duncan Trussell?
joe rogan
You're racist.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
You're so racist.
brendan schaub
He's never getting out.
Imagine that crazy hoe who tried marrying him.
joe rogan
I bet that girl sucks a hella dick.
brendan schaub
The meanest dick in the world.
joe rogan
Oh, gobble, gobble.
She's probably just got moves that you never even heard of before.
brendan schaub
I mean, Charles Manson's seen it all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Does he get conjugals?
Oh, she shaved her head.
jamie vernon
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
She shaved her head?
brendan schaub
Damn, I bet she's healthy.
joe rogan
That's a bad move, honey.
brendan schaub
At least her eyes are straight.
joe rogan
We've got to get you a wig until that shit grows back.
Some girls can't pull off the no-shirt-shaved-head test.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Some girls look pretty until you shave their head and take their shirt off, and you go, hey, hey, hey.
brendan schaub
Yeah, game over.
joe rogan
What did we do here?
What happened?
Who are those people with him?
jamie vernon
They said he was being two-timed.
brendan schaub
Oh, she was fucking that other dude, too?
joe rogan
She was 26. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit, with the wolf guy, 65. With his disciple, Gray Wolf, 65, just months after her marriage license to wed the murderer expired.
brendan schaub
Bro, she was getting dicked down by two old dudes.
joe rogan
Manson's 80. What does he expect?
Well, she's getting dicked down.
Look, this girl's obviously fucking bananas, right?
What does she look like and he look like?
Get them all together in that picture.
Let me see that picture.
brendan schaub
Damn, and the gray wolf guy got arrested for smuggling a cell phone in.
joe rogan
Look at that guy.
He's, like, sneaky.
He's sneaky.
Some guys like sneaky pussy.
They like to be friends with a guy and bang his girlfriend.
brendan schaub
Dude, those two old dudes are busting loads in this crazy bitch.
unidentified
Ah!
Ah!
joe rogan
His loads, all of them, have like a swastika on it.
brendan schaub
Just full of hate.
Just hate loads.
Just fuckin' hate loads.
joe rogan
Like a cartoon.
brendan schaub
My god.
joe rogan
Swastika on its forehead.
brendan schaub
Wiggle in it.
My god.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Just dead loads.
They come in with like, you know when cartoons and people are dead and they have an X for eyes?
brendan schaub
Yeah, just their X already?
Just freaking...
joe rogan
They're just totally dead-eyed.
Just hate loads.
Like a dead fish.
You know, you catch a fish and they're dead and their eyes cloud over.
And these sperms are like zombie sperm.
With a swastika on their forehead.
Oh my god.
80. He, uh...
jamie vernon
He called the marriage off after apparently he found out that they were trying to get him to sign a document to give his body to them and they were going to put his body in a glass crypt when he died and probably sell tickets to some sort of weird Charles Manson grave.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
You can't do that to me, man!
unidentified
The fucking government's had me in a casket forever, man!
brendan schaub
Wait, so that was too much for Charles Manson?
joe rogan
You're crazy, bitch!
unidentified
You know what?
brendan schaub
You're crazy, bitch!
joe rogan
I'm out.
You gotta take a certain amount of crazy if you want to bang a hot 25-year-old and you're an 80-year-old serial killer.
brendan schaub
Bro, if Charles Manson goes, you're crazy.
What the fuck?
How do they not arrest her on the spot?
joe rogan
You're a crazy man.
27-year-old sought to wed the mastermind of the Helter Skelter murder so that she could gain possession of his remains when he died.
That is beautiful.
She must have had to suck that old dick.
brendan schaub
Oh, my.
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
She had to suck that old dick.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
You want to put his body in a glass case?
joe rogan
You pain.
See, but we're saying that as if that wasn't, like, that was, like, her plan all along.
It could have been, like, her along the way.
She's fucking nuts.
She went to bank Charles Manson.
She's got some...
Other nutty ideas too.
brendan schaub
She probably has great parents.
joe rogan
It might not have been some grand conspiracy that she masterminded from the beginning.
I know how to get rich.
This is what I'm going to do.
Maybe it was like, I'm fucking crazy.
I want to bang Charles Manson.
What else do I want to do?
I want to put his body in a fucking jar and let everybody look at him.
brendan schaub
And people pay a dollar to check it out.
joe rogan
Fill him up with formaldehyde.
Let everybody stare.
She's fucking nuts.
Bitches got a lot of crazy ideas.
Go talk to her.
She'll probably tell you some shit about psychics and aliens.
brendan schaub
But that one really sticks out.
Especially with Charles Manson.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good.
Not good.
A lot of issues there.
There's a lot of issues there.
brendan schaub
You should have her on the podcast.
joe rogan
Nah, she'd know where the podcast studio is.
You don't want that bitch finding out where you are.
brendan schaub
Nah, then she wants your body in a tank.
joe rogan
Just coming out trying to suck your dick when you get in your car.
brendan schaub
With helter-skelter.
joe rogan
Helter-skelter!
brendan schaub
Suck your dick to helter-skelter and shit.
joe rogan
I love the stance he's got there, though.
Look at, scroll up the picture.
brendan schaub
You're talking about that power stance with the towel behind his neck?
joe rogan
Look at, he's got a towel around him.
Dude, my calisthenics, that's how I keep my eyes.
brendan schaub
Why is he so tan?
joe rogan
Nothing but hate and suntanning.
brendan schaub
How'd he get tan?
joe rogan
He just stares at the sun.
They let him get out, I guess.
I mean, what a, oh, not entitled to a conjugal visit.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
So they never leave him alone with her.
So do you throw a blanket over it?
Have her give you a handy?
brendan schaub
No, you can't.
Guards ain't having that.
This is crazy ass.
joe rogan
What does it say there?
jamie vernon
Hibristophilia.
I was trying to see if that's what is the term for women who like psychopath killers.
joe rogan
Oh, not even close.
Yeah, she's not even close.
There's a lot of them.
I know that Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, He had a bunch of chicks that were trying to marry him.
unidentified
Dude, Ted Bundy was like just killing the gang.
brendan schaub
If he had Tinder, if there was like Tinder for serial killers, he's getting swiped left all fucking night.
joe rogan
Pulled that phone out of his ass and just started swiping.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but was he the gay one?
joe rogan
No.
That was Dahmer.
brendan schaub
Dahmer was a gay one.
Yeah.
Ted Bundy, though, was a dime piece.
For serial killer.
joe rogan
That was the problem.
Somebody who was like a famous singer got in his car and realized it.
Like, as she was about to get in the car, she realized that the inside of the door did not have any handles on it.
And she freaked out.
jamie vernon
Debbie Harry.
joe rogan
Debbie Harry from Blondie.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
She almost got in his car.
Like, he almost got her.
brendan schaub
Tight move, Debbie Harry.
joe rogan
Ted Bundy lured her into a car.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
She almost fell victim.
brendan schaub
The one thing they'll have in common is they're charming.
Charles Manson isn't, but...
joe rogan
Well, he probably was, though.
He's charming in sort of an apocalyptic way where he understands...
Like, you know, what people want to hear.
They want some wise old mentor, you know?
brendan schaub
He's charming for batshit crazy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of those batshit crazy girls out there that want you to tell them about the Illuminati.
brendan schaub
They want a daddy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a plan.
They're starting a race war.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's people that want to hear, like, really nutty shit from some old daddy dude.
God, it's weird.
It's awesome.
brendan schaub
It's so weird.
joe rogan
It's awesome that people like that exist.
It's awesome that there's a girl who's like, her main goal in life is to fuck Charles Manson.
brendan schaub
Put him in a fish tank.
unidentified
Put him in a fish tank.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
It makes the world a better place.
brendan schaub
No, I like crazy people.
joe rogan
It really does.
brendan schaub
Until they start killing people, but when they're that crazy.
joe rogan
I'm not a fan of that.
I would like you to not do that.
brendan schaub
But I'm a fan of you wanting to marry Charles Manson and put him in a fish tank.
joe rogan
Love it.
brendan schaub
And make money off of it.
unidentified
Love it.
joe rogan
I love that you shaved your head, you crazy bitch.
brendan schaub
And I love that you attacked him from his old friend.
Me too.
joe rogan
She's probably got some really stupid quotes tattooed on her ribs.
brendan schaub
Oh, just some hateful quotes.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably like some demonicon shit.
Something from some ancient book translated from Latin to English.
brendan schaub
Some horrible shit.
joe rogan
Some horrible shit about the end of times.
brendan schaub
Fuck's sake.
unidentified
I love it!
joe rogan
I love all the crazy in the world, man.
I don't like the violent crazy.
I don't like when people...
You know what?
My faith in humanity is somewhat restored because of Houston.
Because of all the videos that I saw of all these people rescuing people in Houston.
I felt super good about that, man.
That made me feel really good.
brendan schaub
Yeah, did you see that?
They were saying there's like no looting or anything going on.
Like communities coming around helping each other.
It'd be easy to loot.
joe rogan
Texas, motherfucker.
They got guns.
They got a whole lot of guns.
That is the wrong place to loot.
brendan schaub
But everyone has guns.
Even the criminals, you know what I'm saying?
So you could get away with some shit, but they're saying everyone's just gathering around and helping each other out, which is cool.
joe rogan
That's good.
You know, I think Texas has a good sort of pride in being Texas.
And being Texans is important to them.
It's very different than any other state.
California is very different than any other state, too.
I mean, every state sort of has its own vibe.
New York obviously has its own vibe.
But man, Texas has its own vibe, to the point where it's almost another country.
brendan schaub
I agree.
Like Texas, if you meet someone from Texas, they want you to know you're from Texas.
Florida's not like that.
You don't see people from Miami super prideful or fucking Fort Lauderdale.
joe rogan
No.
No.
It's different.
brendan schaub
But New York, they are.
Boston, they are.
LA, they are.
joe rogan
All of them don't have it like Texas does.
Texas, everything is Lone Star.
brendan schaub
Another level.
joe rogan
Lone Star barbecue, Lone Star this, Texas that, Texas this.
brendan schaub
Texas truck.
The rice plates say Texas truck.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
They're different.
It's different.
brendan schaub
Texas football?
joe rogan
They were a republic forever.
Like, they're barely a state.
Like, they were, like, one of the only states that, like, had this argument that they could leave the country.
They could leave the union.
brendan schaub
Good point.
joe rogan
And it's also a weird state that they have these giant-ass ranches.
Like, Texas has these, like, 80,000, 100,000, like, gigantic acre ranches.
brendan schaub
It's cool.
joe rogan
Well, it's weird.
It's like, they have so many ranches.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Also, that bit from my act, totally true.
There's more tigers in Texas in private collections than all of the wild in the world.
unidentified
No!
brendan schaub
For reals?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You ever see that bit that I used to do?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
King's Ranch, 911,215 acres.
Jesus!
Briscoe ranches.
560,000 acres.
Waggoner Ranch.
530,000 acres.
These are huge ranches.
911,000 acres is fucking bananas.
brendan schaub
Dude, who owns King Ranch?
joe rogan
Some dude who's just ballin'.
Calls himself the king of King Ranch.
brendan schaub
Johnny Depp.
joe rogan
That guy might as well have his own country.
He basically has like a small European country.
brendan schaub
Damn, he can stay there right now.
joe rogan
I bet that shit's like the size of Rhode Island.
unidentified
Oh, bro, first of all, there's a King Ranch Ford truck.
brendan schaub
They have their own trucks.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
They do.
Bowling.
Bowling out of control.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there it is.
King Ranch.
joe rogan
King Ranch Ford.
brendan schaub
There's nothing more American than that King Ranch F-150.
joe rogan
What's under the hood?
America.
brendan schaub
Fucking America.
joe rogan
Eagle dick.
Just a big old eagle dick.
Go back up there to the...
What's the heavy bag?
Hold on.
Why does it have heavy bags?
The fuck is all that?
Check out the new innovations.
Click on the heavy bag.
Why does it have all the weights and shit?
What is that?
What the fuck is going on?
I can't do this.
It's Dennis Leary's voice.
Go back to the King's Ranch page again, too.
I guess it's a hunting ranch, too.
Yeah, click on the lower left, or the left-hand side.
brendan schaub
Dude, they have mini golf there?
joe rogan
They probably have zebras.
Oh, okay.
See those deer?
Look at those deer's antlers.
See that shit?
You know where that comes from?
Can you go back there?
brendan schaub
They've been around a long time.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
No, that's all selective breeding.
They take these farm deers.
This is super.
Hold on.
12,000 Neil guy.
That's crazy.
Those are African animals.
They have 12,000 African antelope.
It's a big-ass antelope, too.
brendan schaub
Look at that fat-ass turkey.
joe rogan
Yeah, 770,000 edges.
brendan schaub
I'd shoot the fuck out of that turkey.
joe rogan
Premier destination for Texas whitetail.
Those deer, a lot of them, what they do is they get them from, when you see crazy antlers with all kinds of goofy shit all over them, not like normal antlers, a lot of that is selectively breed.
brendan schaub
It's like a fake ass on a chick.
joe rogan
A lot, but it's real.
But they're pet deer.
They grow them in these high fence operations.
They feed them this insane concentration that has like fish.
Heavy duty protein in it.
Like PEDs, yeah.
And then they bring in certain bucks that have crazy genetic characteristics and they breed them together.
brendan schaub
X-Men deer.
joe rogan
Like any hunter that sees crazy deer with all sorts of bullshit all over the place, they go, oh, okay, you're shooting a farm deer.
brendan schaub
Oh, they don't want to fuck with it?
joe rogan
No, because a lot of those times, these animals, they're getting shot in these tiny little farms.
They're talking about a few acres.
brendan schaub
And that thing has no idea.
joe rogan
Has no idea.
brendan schaub
Because it grew up basically like a rich kid in Calabasas.
joe rogan
And most of these people are shooting it with a gun, too.
So they're just setting up shop, waiting for that thing to walk in the right thing, and boom, they blow it away.
It's more of an execution than it is a hunt.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's fucked up.
What else they got on that ranch?
I saw a crocodile.
joe rogan
Nah, they have crocodiles?
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Come on, they do not have crocodiles.
unidentified
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
They have alligators, I'm sure.
unidentified
Nah, that was a saltwater croc.
brendan schaub
He had some shit, man.
joe rogan
Go to King Ranch hunting.
brendan schaub
This is the coolest place on earth.
unidentified
I can't believe they have their own fucking truck.
joe rogan
Here's the ranch wildlife.
Click on that.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at that.
joe rogan
That's a crocodile.
brendan schaub
That'd be a crocodile where I come from.
joe rogan
Is that an alligator?
I think it's an alligator.
I don't think they have crocodiles in...
They have North American crocodiles in Florida, but I don't think they have them in Texas.
brendan schaub
Dude, it's the King Ranch, so...
joe rogan
Well, they can do whatever the fuck they want.
brendan schaub
It's the King Ranch.
joe rogan
Let saltwater fishermen be the best place in Texas coast to pursue speckled trout and redfish.
Redfish are delicious.
brendan schaub
What else they got?
Turkey, antelope, hogs.
joe rogan
So they're on the water.
They might have got wrecked by this storm, by the way.
They might not even be here anymore.
brendan schaub
Ah, fuck.
King Ranch.
Are they in Houston?
joe rogan
They're somewhere on the water if they have ocean fishing.
brendan schaub
Or they just built their own ocean in there.
unidentified
They might have just dug a fucking, we're going to get us a compound going about 17 feet deep with the concrete.
We designed this motherfucker to be aerodynamic so when them 400 mile an hour winds come, they just glide.
brendan schaub
Oh, they're fucked.
joe rogan
Yeah, they got hit hard.
Why don't you Google King Ranch hurricane damage?
Let's see if they're still around.
unidentified
We're going to get an invitation from the King Ranch.
Come on down and shoot some hogs.
brendan schaub
Hey, King Ranch, I'm in.
joe rogan
Will you shoot a hog out of a helicopter with me?
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
I would do it with Ted Nugent, but Doug Stanhope will get mad at me.
brendan schaub
Tim Kennedy wants us to do it with him.
joe rogan
Now I'm in.
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
Now I'm in.
You're talking about American Dad?
I'll shoot some hog with American Dad.
joe rogan
You, me, and Tim Kennedy in a fucking helicopter.
And by the way, they donate all that food.
And wild hogs are fucking delicious, too.
And they really do have to shoot them, folks.
brendan schaub
And there's so many of them.
That's the way Tim explained it to me.
joe rogan
America!
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
brendan schaub
I see what we're doing on King's Ranch.
joe rogan
So does it say anything about the damage?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'm trying to find something that has specifically King Ranch in it, but this has it hit right near the beach.
joe rogan
Okay.
It's a state of disaster.
Yeah, they must have got fucked up.
brendan schaub
You know what, though?
King's Ranch might have some special protection program.
They're so fucking rich where just these walls go up and can't fuck with them.
unidentified
We set it up so you just press a button here and the whole building slides underground right quick.
brendan schaub
Like Biodome.
joe rogan
Like where the X-Men, their fucking jet comes out of town.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
It's like a big circle.
It opens up like this.
brendan schaub
King Ranch, baby.
joe rogan
Maybe, man.
King Ranch.
Do you think that's like a place where you could...
I think that's one of the few places that I could live outside of California that I would be like super happy.
Texas?
Austin.
Yeah.
Austin, Texas.
brendan schaub
Like Texas, Dallas, although it gets hot, but I could definitely have been Austin.
joe rogan
Do you do shows there?
brendan schaub
I did a show in Houston and Dallas.
I haven't been to Austin yet.
joe rogan
You've got to do Cap City Comedy Club.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
It's the shit.
brendan schaub
I know.
I need to get done.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
You'd love it.
brendan schaub
I love Austin.
joe rogan
They're next level people, too.
Austin's next level people.
brendan schaub
Great food, too.
joe rogan
Fucking phenomenal barbecue.
brendan schaub
You're down there with Aubrey.
It takes you all over.
I had the best Thai food in my life in Austin.
joe rogan
Strong words.
brendan schaub
I know, right?
joe rogan
The best ever?
brendan schaub
Ever.
Ask Aubrey about it.
joe rogan
Just some good shit right over here on Ventura.
brendan schaub
Really?
Love Thai food.
joe rogan
It's a lot of...
It's weird how, like, Thais made it all the way...
I mean, like, I guess they're everywhere, but, like, you go to, like, a lot of these Thai restaurants, it's very rare that they're not Thais working there.
brendan schaub
Ah, if they have a white person, I just turn around and walk out.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mexican.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you better be Thai.
unidentified
Nah.
brendan schaub
I go to sushi.
It's a white dude.
Fucking see ya.
joe rogan
Yeah, white dudes, there's a lot of, like, white people getting into the Mexican food game.
brendan schaub
The Mexican food game?
joe rogan
I'm not mad at you.
You can make some good Mexican food, but better hide in the kitchen.
Keep up this illusion.
unidentified
I agree.
brendan schaub
And put the Mexican in front to work it.
joe rogan
Just come out with a big fake mustache.
unidentified
Señor, de jor de carne asada.
joe rogan
Hey, Holmes!
unidentified
Hey, Holmes!
brendan schaub
I want that shit.
jamie vernon
Chipotle used to have a lot of Mexicans working at it.
At least in Columbus when I was going there.
brendan schaub
No, they still do.
jamie vernon
They switched and they were like, nah.
brendan schaub
Well, McDonald's bought them, they fucked up, and then they bought it back, right?
How good is Chipotle?
Even though people are getting sick as fuck.
jamie vernon
I heard it's delicious.
I haven't tried it yet.
joe rogan
Listen, man.
For me, I get two orders of guacamole and I get one of them rice bowls with steak.
brendan schaub
Preach.
joe rogan
And I'm eating fairly keto without eating all the rice.
If I just eat mostly the meat and the guacamole, which is fantastic for you.
brendan schaub
You can do keto there.
You get the fajita veggies for the bed and then you do double meat.
You do all the salsas.
Double guacamole.
It's delicious.
joe rogan
I feel good about it.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
joe rogan
It's not bad, man.
For fast food, it's about as good as you're gonna get.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Thai food, they say to a certain point, can be healthy, too.
If it's like real Thai, like the noodles and stuff, obviously not keto, but...
joe rogan
No, not keto, but rice noodles.
Man, I'm struggling with keto.
I drift in and out.
Me too, bro.
My love of pasta is just too strong.
I go back to it, though.
You know, the thing that knocks me back on course, though, is those ketones, man.
brendan schaub
The ketones?
joe rogan
Exogenous ketones, taking that ketogenic stuff.
That's the big one.
Because it's so easy for me.
I take it when I work out in the morning.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Take it before I do anything.
brendan schaub
But, you know, you had homeboy, like, Dr. Keto on your show.
He was saying, really, it's going to take about a year, 18 months, some shit, to stay in ketosis.
joe rogan
To be completely adapted.
brendan schaub
I'm a fucker.
It was discouraging.
joe rogan
Off the charts.
Crazy, though.
I mean, with Keto.
brendan schaub
Crazy smart.
joe rogan
Crazy smart.
brendan schaub
Crazy.
joe rogan
A lot of people disagreed with him.
I'd like to get those people on with him.
brendan schaub
He was so smart.
joe rogan
They disagreed with him about physical performance.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Super smart.
brendan schaub
And he was like, to stay in Keto, and if you're trying to get on Keto and you listen to that podcast, a motherfucker is so discouraging.
He's like, you need about 12 to 18 months before anything happens.
And I was like, uh, you lose weight fast.
joe rogan
You do.
You know what the thing that gets me the most that I found was when my body became fat adaptive, right?
I switched over.
The thing that I could tell for sure was that my appetite was not crazy in the middle of the afternoon.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't have the ups and downs.
joe rogan
No ups and downs.
brendan schaub
Where now I went off it and I'm doing pescatarian and having more carbs and I'm fucking starving.
joe rogan
Now, why pescatarian?
Why fish?
Because I'm weird.
Just trying it?
brendan schaub
Just trying mixing it up.
joe rogan
How does it feel?
Do you like it?
brendan schaub
All right.
joe rogan
Just alright?
unidentified
Alright.
brendan schaub
It gets a little challenging.
Like, I eat so much salmon and tuna, you know?
joe rogan
You gotta be careful with mercury levels and stuff, too.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
I know.
With the tuna, especially.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Salmon, not so much.
But you can eat sardines, oysters, scallops.
It gets a little challenging.
A lot of salads.
joe rogan
How long have you been doing it now?
brendan schaub
Two weeks?
Three weeks?
joe rogan
Are you trying to get leaner?
Or are you just trying to try it out?
brendan schaub
I'll just try and get leaner.
And just mix it up.
I know keto works, but again, after listening to Homeboy on the podcast, I was like, shit, unless I'm all the way in for 18 months.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I think he's talking about all the benefits.
He's talking about there's real serious metabolic benefits to be gained from staying with it for long periods of time.
I think that's probably the case, but food is something else, too.
There's a lot of pleasure with food.
There's something to be said about enjoying life.
And I think you should eat healthy.
I follow what I call the 80-20 principle, where 80% of the time, I eat really good.
brendan schaub
Preach.
joe rogan
And then 20% of the time, I'll fuck off.
brendan schaub
Me too.
Monday through Friday, I'm good, man.
Then Sunday, if I'm with my fam, or like we went to Universal on Thursday, I had a bunch of chicken tenders.
joe rogan
I also work out like a fucking demon, so I don't get fat.
brendan schaub
Every day, yeah.
joe rogan
Simple, simple.
brendan schaub
So I don't stay fat, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, but I just like a little lasagna every now and then.
joe rogan
That cheese and the meat.
You know that feeling when you take a big bite of fucking heavy sauce cheesy lasagna and you're like, oh my god.
brendan schaub
My mouth is water.
You know what fucks me up and what gets me?
We're just talking shit about advertisements on Domino's.
When's the last time we had a hot Domino's pizza?
joe rogan
Domino's pizza, they always have it in the back if they can get it at a UFC. Actually, they just get any kind of pizza.
But I've had Domino's before, too.
It's not bad.
brendan schaub
Bro, this is the thing.
Here's the fat kid tip.
If you want to make sure you have a fresh pizza, when you're ordering online, make sure you ask for extra robust tomato sauce.
Because they're not going to give you an old one.
They're like, ah, fuck!
This asshole asked for fresh sauce.
So they have to put extra on it so it's a fresh pizza.
joe rogan
Extra robust tomato sauce.
brendan schaub
Game over.
joe rogan
That pizza.
brendan schaub
That fucking pizza, man.
joe rogan
Dude, there's a place in Woodland Hills, Tonino's.
They shit in the mouth of Domino's.
brendan schaub
You watch your fucking American mouth.
joe rogan
They open Domino's mouth up like, you know the crocodiles?
And the crocodiles are biting cartoon characters and they're holding the mouth up.
unidentified
They're holding the mouth?
joe rogan
That's what they do to Domino's.
unidentified
Like Splash Mountain?
joe rogan
And they just shit in the mouth of Domino's.
Just like, ahhh!
brendan schaub
What kind of pizza?
Is it thin crust?
joe rogan
Thin crust.
Thin crust.
brendan schaub
You're fucking right it is.
joe rogan
So good.
brendan schaub
Oh, I love the Domino's guy.
Boing!
jamie vernon
The Noid.
brendan schaub
Noid, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's not around anymore?
brendan schaub
Nah, he's too fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Avoid the Noid.
brendan schaub
He looks like Charles Manson's girl.
joe rogan
Why was he around?
What was the deal with the Noid?
jamie vernon
They were trying to probably market the kids back in the 80s.
brendan schaub
He had a video game, too.
jamie vernon
Yeah, and then they brought out a game.
brendan schaub
I had a Stuff Noid when I was a kid.
jamie vernon
I was like a 7-Up character too, remember?
Like Spot?
joe rogan
Yes!
Dough and sugar.
I mean, that's what it is.
Dough and sugar and cheese.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck what it is.
It's so delicious.
A fresh Domino's pizza?
How dare you?
joe rogan
What's your favorite pizza combination?
brendan schaub
I go, again, the extra robust tomato sauce, cheese, pepperoni, jalapenos, tomatoes, I think.
Oh, and mushrooms.
joe rogan
I have three favorite combinations.
unidentified
Oh, let me hear it.
brendan schaub
My mouth is watering so bad, bro.
Wait, where do you get it from, though?
joe rogan
Different pizza places.
brendan schaub
But just in general?
joe rogan
Tinino's is really good.
Just in general.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
The classic for me is pepperonis with mushrooms.
brendan schaub
I like a good pepperoni mushroom too, bro.
joe rogan
Good pepperoni and mushrooms.
Some pizza, I like a fucking flat cheese pizza.
brendan schaub
Me too.
Like a goddamn American.
A nice cheese pizza.
But I can't have...
I need some sauce.
I need some sauce.
joe rogan
Here's why I deviate.
Double pineapple, double anchovy.
brendan schaub
You lost me on the anchovy, but I fucks with the pineapple.
joe rogan
Pineapple and anchovy pizza is fucking delicious.
brendan schaub
Sweet and salty?
joe rogan
Sweet and salty with the cheese.
The sauce is oozing.
Oh, dude.
Double...
I'd have to get them to read it back to me.
brendan schaub
They're like, you sure you want...
Are you trying to shit your pants, sir?
joe rogan
Did you say double pineapple, double anchovy?
I'm like, motherfucker.
brendan schaub
That's exactly what I said.
joe rogan
Double pineapple, double anchovy.
I want four Diet Cokes.
unidentified
Yes!
brendan schaub
It's so unhealthy, but so goddamn good.
joe rogan
But if you're watching a movie or something like that, like Guardians of the Galaxy 2 or something like that, you get a double pineapple.
Look at that!
That motherfucker right there!
brendan schaub
No, that's deep dish, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a casserole.
brendan schaub
Fuck your deep dish.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's more of a casserole.
I don't think that's deep dish.
brendan schaub
It looks deep from Angle.
joe rogan
Double pineapple, double anchovy.
Yeah, that's a casserole.
brendan schaub
I like a nice margarita pizza too if it's done right.
A good margarita pizza?
joe rogan
Dude, I had pizza in Italy.
First of all, the bread is different.
They have heirloom wheat.
Their wheat is older wheat.
It's wheat like our wheat used to be before we started fucking with it to make it more durable, to make it survive pesticides, to make it last longer, and to give more yield.
Like if you have an acre of land and you grow this heirloom wheat, you'll have a smaller yield than you have an acre of our new- So better quality.
Yeah, it's sort of like the same thing when you see tomatoes in the store and they're big and they're fucking pale as shit.
brendan schaub
They bounce.
joe rogan
Yeah, they bounce.
Whereas you get an heirloom tomato, they're only good for like a couple of days and then they start to rot.
But when you catch them and they're fresh, god damn, they're like a fruit.
They're delicious.
They're fantastic.
brendan schaub
So it was the best pizza ever?
joe rogan
Phenomenal pizza, phenomenal pasta.
And you can buy the pasta.
See, the thing is, like, their pasta is available in the United States.
You gotta order it from, like, Amazon.com.
But I think it's called Double O Pasta or Double O Wheat.
Double O or Double Zero.
brendan schaub
And it's from Italy?
joe rogan
Yes, it's from Italy.
And it tastes different while you're eating it.
It goes down easier.
brendan schaub
They make tortellinis?
joe rogan
Yeah, they make everything.
God, my mouth is fucking water.
Maybe it's double zero?
jamie vernon
It looks like double zeros.
joe rogan
Oh, it could be.
Well, a lot of people use zero in terms of...
brendan schaub
You like a fettuccine Alfredo?
joe rogan
I don't fuck with that stuff.
I like red sauce.
Me too.
brendan schaub
I'm not a white sauce guy.
joe rogan
I think it's like white people food.
It's like mayonnaise.
Double zero.
Yeah, double zero pasta.
Typically milled in Italy, where millers grade their flour using a zero rating.
A single zero flour is quite coarse in texture, like a powderly semonella, whereas triple zero is much finer like cornstarch, but everyday flour is usually classified as double zero.
Man, double zero spaghetti is the shit.
It was so good, man.
But just this one company that I bought it for, goddammit.
brendan schaub
Do you make it at home?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Your wife makes it?
joe rogan
I make it too.
I cook.
I know how to cook, bro.
I can boil water.
brendan schaub
Bored.
But then what kind of red sauce are you using?
joe rogan
I use Uncle Steve's.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Agent Zero or Uncle Steve's.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Hold on a second.
I'll find out right now.
brendan schaub
My mouth is whining like a motherfucker.
jamie vernon
King Arthur?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Hmm?
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what.
Everyone says New York pizza, Chicago pizza, LA pizza, Juista, or you get Jelena takeaway pizza.
Some of the best in the world.
Abbott Kenny pizza.
Abbott pizza.
jamie vernon
I've been looking for good pizza.
brendan schaub
You're looking for good pizza?
jamie vernon
I mean, I'm in the middle.
I'm not on the west side.
brendan schaub
Bro, well, I don't know around here.
jamie vernon
Hollywood area.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Pizza down there.
Joey Diaz does.
He's telling me someplace.
But I'm telling you, man.
Juice does pizza.
This margarita pizza, knock your dick in the dirt.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Where's that?
brendan schaub
That's right off Gold's Gym there in Venice.
Right off Rose, kind of.
It's almost like a daily atmosphere.
Shit is delicious.
joe rogan
Damn, dude.
brendan schaub
I know my pizza.
You just made me so hungry, man.
joe rogan
My friend Steve Sharippa, he's been on the podcast before.
He's the one that owns Uncle Steve's.
It's all organic.
Him and his wife created it and make it themselves.
It's the best pasta sauce I've ever had.
But they have a spicy pasta, like an aria bata.
brendan schaub
Ooh, I like it spicy.
joe rogan
You gotta be careful with their spicy.
They're spicy.
They are not fucked up.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's like real Italian spice?
joe rogan
It's got a kick to it.
Like, woo!
Like, if you like a spicy sauce, I love it.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
It's got a kick, but it's all organic, super healthy, really good, delicious.
brendan schaub
How hard is it to get?
Is it exhausting to get, or is it easy?
joe rogan
I don't know.
He brought me in a gang of it.
He gave me, like, two cases of it.
But I think you can buy it online.
brendan schaub
You ever try making your own pizza at home?
Fucking nightmare.
Yeah, no fucking nightmare.
It tastes like shit, too.
joe rogan
I always like when I see people get a pizza oven in their backyard.
I'm like, that's something you're going to use three times.
brendan schaub
Complete waste of time.
joe rogan
Ever?
brendan schaub
Complete waste of time.
joe rogan
It's like when you see someone who doesn't work out.
Well, I figured if I buy this treadmill.
No.
brendan schaub
Nah, silly bitch.
joe rogan
You're not going to use that treadmill.
brendan schaub
It's not the equipment.
It's your attitude.
You're never going to do it.
joe rogan
You're not a pizza maker, bro.
brendan schaub
No, you're not a pizza man.
unidentified
You're not Chef Boyardee, are you?
joe rogan
Let's wrap this up.
brendan schaub
Let's go get some fucking pizza.
joe rogan
Let's get some pizza.
Alright.
brendan schaub
From Domino's.
joe rogan
See you folks.
unidentified
Bye.
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