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Aug. 16, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:46:57
Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Breakdown - Mayweather vs. McGregor
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brendan schaub
01:07:31
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joe rogan
01:32:43
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jamie vernon
01:54
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benjamin jaffe
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5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
Fresh from fucking Dublin!
Brendan Schaub returns!
joe rogan
You were in the motherland.
You were in the motherland for days.
brendan schaub
I was, man.
The motherland.
Now it's the motherland.
joe rogan
Well, it's sort of one quarter of my heritage.
brendan schaub
It's the capital of fighting, that's for sure.
joe rogan
Rogan is an Irish name.
I don't know if you know that, lad.
brendan schaub
Is it really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm one quarter Irish.
brendan schaub
Everyone out there, bring Rogan out!
I'm like, what do you want me?
Talk to him, man.
joe rogan
Rogan, you're Irish, aren't you?
unidentified
Aren't you?
joe rogan
Fucking animals, bro.
brendan schaub
Favorite place I've ever been.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Those are savages.
brendan schaub
Savages.
It's not even that they're savages.
They're super friendly.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're very friendly.
brendan schaub
So friendly.
Not that people in Australia or London or Manchester weren't, but in Dublin, I was like, damn, I don't want to leave, man.
Like, I loved it.
joe rogan
I was thinking yesterday when I was watching, like, Conor McGregor work out and, like, all the people surrounding him while he's working out.
You know, one of those open workouts.
It's real weird.
You know, he's standing around hitting the bag and he seems to just be doing his work, doing his normal work, you know, hitting the bag.
But there's Just this circle of people, like right there.
brendan schaub
Like he's a lion.
joe rogan
Well it's not only that, he can't even move.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like he can't like dance around, he can't back up too much.
He's just right in front of that bag and he's gotta pretend those people aren't there as he works his combinations.
brendan schaub
It's just a show, right?
It's just a show to hype the fight more.
I guess it is.
unidentified
I guess it is.
brendan schaub
And then the bots and purists make fun of him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because of his movement.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
They won't make fun of him if he lands the way he did in that clip of Pauly.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Dude, when he landed that straight left, blam, and snapped Pauly's head back.
I'm like, hey, Pauly, why didn't you talk about that?
brendan schaub
He's been on a tear just going off.
joe rogan
That's really significant.
But if a guy like Conor McGregor does that, that is straight and clean and sneaky.
brendan schaub
16 ounces, too.
joe rogan
And a little off-speed, like a little off-speed in the initial part of the movement, and he drops it in, bang!
It's like snake-like left hand.
Like, he's getting super comfortable if he can do that to Paulie Malignaggi.
Like, whatever you say about those clips, all we know is that that's what we've seen.
We've only seen these little short little clips.
Like, right here, watch this left hand.
Watch how he sneaks this in.
Boom!
brendan schaub
Speed, son.
joe rogan
Timing.
brendan schaub
Are they the ounces on, too?
joe rogan
That left hand is fucking legit.
Super legit.
Here it is again.
Watch this.
Boom!
Dude, that is down the pipe.
brendan schaub
Call it what you want.
I mean, granted, that's the 12th round, but still, Paul, two-time world champion.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what round that was.
I don't care.
brendan schaub
Me neither.
I don't care either.
joe rogan
If Conor can do that with that kind of speed to Paulie Malignaggi and time that like that, that's...
Look, you can't sleep on him.
He's got magic.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying, Joe.
joe rogan
It doesn't always work.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
It doesn't always work.
unidentified
It kind of does.
joe rogan
Nate Diaz has a little magic, too.
brendan schaub
Different type of magic.
joe rogan
Yeah, but in that fight, Nate Diaz had the magic.
It was just not Conor's night.
brendan schaub
The rematch was Conor's night.
joe rogan
Nah, not really.
No, I don't think it was.
I think the rematch was both of their night.
I think if you really want to look at that fight honestly, the second fight, I don't think you see a winner.
The only thing that I think you could say makes Conor a winner is that he dropped Nate.
brendan schaub
Multiple times.
joe rogan
But Nate was saying that he went down with punches anyway because he was hoping Conor would follow him to the ground, which may or may not be true.
But it is a good strategy if you have a wicked guard.
brendan schaub
You've been watching the sport way too long to believe that.
joe rogan
Nate's got a wicked guard.
If he really did decide to get, like when he gets clipped, just to go down with it and to try to bring him to the ground.
Look, Fabricio does that.
Fabricio Verdun absolutely does that.
brendan schaub
He doesn't do it by getting dropped in the face with the left hand.
joe rogan
Well, it was a very good shot, no doubt about it.
But the idea is, if you get hit with a good shot, you can decide to go down.
brendan schaub
Bait him in.
joe rogan
You can decide to bait him in.
brendan schaub
Three times in a row?
joe rogan
I think you have to take it into consideration as a possibility.
brendan schaub
Maybe once?
joe rogan
Three in a row?
It might be every time he would try it.
We've never seen him do it before.
You're right, we never have seen him do it before.
brendan schaub
He doesn't have these tendencies.
joe rogan
The only guy who's ever really fucked up, Nate, in a fight is Josh Thompson.
Josh Thompson head kicked him, and every other fight, even when he's gotten beat up, like the Dos Anjos fight, he's got his legs beat up, and Dos Anjos definitely won a decision.
Nate didn't get fucked up and stopped.
brendan schaub
He's never got his ass whooped.
joe rogan
Josh is the only one who stopped him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but he's still never got his ass whooped.
joe rogan
Never got his ass whooped.
Well, you know what?
You could say the Dos Anjos fight was kind of a beating.
Dos Anjos is just kicking the shit out of his leg.
brendan schaub
But he's still coming forward.
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
brendan schaub
He's never been broke, you can say that.
They've never broke his will.
joe rogan
100%.
Even in the Thompson fight, if they let it go, he probably would have recovered eventually if he didn't go unconscious.
brendan schaub
Correct.
See, I think the real test of who's better, Conor McGregor or Nate Diaz, is if they fight at 55 in the trilogy fight.
Because 70, it's a toss-up.
Nate won one, Conor won one, that's whatever.
They're both not fighting at 70. If they go to 55, you have your true, I think, winner there.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
I mean, I like Nate at 55 better anyway.
brendan schaub
Me too.
unidentified
Way better.
joe rogan
When he gets real lean, like in the Michael Johnson fight, come on.
Best he's ever looked, dude.
brendan schaub
Destroy Johnson.
joe rogan
Shredded at the way in.
Shredded city.
My man was jacked!
brendan schaub
Yes.
unidentified
Just jacked!
brendan schaub
I'm assuming that's what he's waiting for, because they've offered him fights, right?
But he's just waiting for that big Conor Payday.
joe rogan
I think him and his brother are smart.
They're huge cultural icons.
They can go places and get paid.
And they're still in the mix for whatever weight class, whether it's 55 or 70. Sure he is, if he wants to be.
brendan schaub
No, he's suspended for a very long time.
joe rogan
He's just got to pay.
He's just got to pay.
Does he?
Yeah, it's not a suspension anymore.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
What it is, is he owes them $100,000, and he won't give it.
brendan schaub
So, so gangster.
unidentified
Well, they wanted like 165. I think he gave him like 65. You can argue that though.
brendan schaub
Like, remember with Conor, like, listen, you're suspended.
You're not fighting.
You got to shoot a commercial for us.
Remember that?
They asked him to shoot a bullying commercial and pay $175,000.
Conor went, cool, just not fighting Vegas.
They went, All right, no money, just a 15-second tweet, and then we'll let you fight here.
joe rogan
Well, you've got to realize, when a guy's throwing a Monster Energy drink, and they're throwing water bottles, I don't like to say this, but this is true.
There's a big part of what's going on there that is theatrics that's no different than pro wrestling.
brendan schaub
It's called selling a fight.
joe rogan
It's called selling a fight, and that's what they're doing.
They're throwing shit at each other, selling a fight.
Do you think he's really trying to incite a riot?
Occasionally, yes.
The DC Jon Jones thing, that was legit.
brendan schaub
Different animal.
And how much did that sell the fight?
The UFC was like, let's just keep that in a loop.
joe rogan
They kept playing it over and over.
brendan schaub
Non-stop.
And then they're like, we do not approve of this.
This is ridiculous.
Show it one more time.
Show it again.
joe rogan
One more time.
brendan schaub
I love that, though.
Best clip ever.
joe rogan
Did they capitalize?
I don't know if they did.
On the Jon Jones saying, I did cocaine a week before I beat your ass.
brendan schaub
No, they didn't.
That was during that press.
The greatest line.
The most savage line ever.
Ever.
joe rogan
Dude, Jon Jones is no joke.
And Jon Jones like in shape with something to prove like he did against Cormier.
brendan schaub
Scary.
unidentified
God.
brendan schaub
So scary.
joe rogan
God damn it.
brendan schaub
When he kicked him in the face.
My word.
joe rogan
How about the fact that he says the exact perfect thing after the fight's over?
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
About Daniel.
brendan schaub
Smart marketing.
joe rogan
About Daniel.
It's just, you know, I mean, it's just championship.
brendan schaub
It felt real for the first time, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably felt so much gratitude.
When I said to him, I didn't know what I was going to say to him, but when I said to him, you made it back.
That's how I felt.
Not just that he made it back to the title, but he made it back from the dark lands.
brendan schaub
From life.
joe rogan
He made it back from running away from a hit-and-run accident with who knows what the fuck you've got on you.
All that.
brendan schaub
Made it back is an understatement.
I mean, homeboy...
joe rogan
And people never stopped cheering for him.
Very interesting.
You know?
brendan schaub
People are mad at DC. They boo DC, but then John Jones, his fame went up.
He hit a pregnant lady, broke her arm, and ran from the scene.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
I don't understand.
First of all, I don't understand how you could not be a fan of DC. I don't understand it.
I don't understand.
There's nothing wrong with him.
What would you not be a fan of?
The guy's a fucking animal.
He won the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix.
brendan schaub
Undefeated at Heavyweight.
joe rogan
I mean, he's throwing around Josh Barnett, who's a 255-pound gorilla.
Daniel Cormier is hoisting him through the air.
brendan schaub
Spiking him on his head.
Spiking him on his head.
joe rogan
Just blam!
brendan schaub
He's macho, man.
joe rogan
I mean, the guy gets into MMA fairly late in his career, right?
Massively successful amateur wrestler.
Gets into MMA and says he's running through people.
Has a fight, the first fight in the UFC he has against Frank fucking Mir.
brendan schaub
Beats the brakes off of him.
joe rogan
Former UFC heavyweight champion, your first fight in the UFC. And beats the brakes off him.
Yeah, and beats the brakes off him.
brendan schaub
I mean, it wasn't the greatest fight, but still whooped his ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean...
brendan schaub
Got underhook and did work.
joe rogan
It's just people got mad at him for the Anderson Silva fight, that he held Anderson Silva down.
brendan schaub
That one bothered me a little bit, too.
I can see why fans are like, come on, man.
Anderson Silva at 2A notice, or whatever the hell it was, come on.
joe rogan
But Anderson front-kicked him in the gut.
Remember that?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Hilarious.
unidentified
He hurt him.
brendan schaub
He just didn't take a chance, especially UFC 200. It's such a big card and there's so much hope when you don't perform.
People are like, come on, man.
And with DC, I think the biggest thing is, and it's not his fault, he's better than everyone in the world at light heavyweight except for Jon Jones.
So when Jon left and he had the title, people are like, that's fake.
That's not his fault.
joe rogan
It's not his fault.
brendan schaub
That's Jon.
Be mad at Jon.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if you could get Daniel's brain...
Inside of Rumble's body.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That doesn't happen, right?
Isn't that interesting how that doesn't happen?
It's like Jon Jones is the closest thing to a guy who's got insane talent, but he also has like almost like that Daryl Elkins, Darren Elkins rather, the Darren Elkins mentality of like never quit.
Remember when he got his arm hyperextended like real bad by Vitor?
His arm was fucked up.
Never tapped.
You know, when he fought the Gustafson fight, he wasn't in shape at all.
And went a five-hour round.
brendan schaub
Which, to me, was the best fight ever.
joe rogan
And was winning the final round.
brendan schaub
Or how about against Ryan Bader?
Ryan Bader's freaking good.
I think at times he's ranked four or five in the world.
Doesn't even really train.
They said they saw him like two days.
And went in there and cradled him like a baby and whooped his ass in the first round.
joe rogan
Just beat his ass.
brendan schaub
I mean, it's just talking about a different animal, man.
joe rogan
He's a different animal, but he's also got this mindset.
Like, he has a real champion's mindset.
Whereas, like, Rumble doesn't really like to fight.
He's just super good at it.
brendan schaub
You don't think Rumble likes it?
joe rogan
He says he doesn't.
brendan schaub
Oh, has he said that?
joe rogan
He says he doesn't.
He says he doesn't want to fight anymore.
He says he doesn't want brain trauma.
He doesn't want to be rolling around with dudes.
brendan schaub
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought you were saying that.
I got that confused with DC. Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Rumble's done.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
How good?
joe rogan
But Rumble is, like, the scariest guy ever at 205 when it comes to striking.
Like, who the fuck's ever been scarier than Rumble?
Nobody.
brendan schaub
Ostermeyer.
joe rogan
Pretty goddamn close right now, right?
Hoo, he's scary right now.
brendan schaub
No technique, just fucking...
joe rogan
Oh, he's got technique, man.
unidentified
No, I'm just saying.
I'm just playing.
He's got serious technique.
joe rogan
He's got serious technique.
unidentified
Oh, dude.
brendan schaub
Jimmy Manolet?
Cool, he's like, you're a power puncher?
unidentified
Dude.
brendan schaub
Very cool.
Check this out.
unidentified
Yeah.
Goof!
joe rogan
Interesting cat, man.
Interesting cat.
brendan schaub
Number three, was he three in the world?
joe rogan
Yeah, he knocked out Sarkunov, right?
He knocked out Misha.
And then just murks Jimmy Manoa.
brendan schaub
Like walked through him and called it too.
He's like, I'm knocking him out in the first minute or so.
I'm just going to go do it.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
And Jimmy didn't even land anything.
Like inside this clinch, he catches him with that hard left hook.
He's got hammers for fists too, bro.
brendan schaub
But he's, like, rushing in.
Like, he's not calculated.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he's not calculated like a John or, you know, like a JDS where he's sitting back reading guys.
joe rogan
But he's got confidence in his power, for sure.
The dude has brick hands, too.
You ever shake his hand?
brendan schaub
No, apparently.
joe rogan
Big old Brock Lesnar-style hands.
brendan schaub
Now, does that work against a Gus Finn and Jon Jones is the question.
joe rogan
Can I find out soon, bitch?
brendan schaub
That motherfucker might be champion of the world.
Just 70 Twitter followers.
unidentified
Just fucking light heavyweight champion of the world.
brendan schaub
UFC's like, fuck!
Just what do you do, bro?
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
I don't know.
He's changing his nickname to no time.
Is that what he changed his nickname to?
That's awful!
Short time, no time.
Because he was pointing to his watch after the fight.
brendan schaub
It's time!
joe rogan
That was like his move.
Oh yeah, no time.
brendan schaub
No time.
joe rogan
After the fight, he was pointing to his watch.
He's like, this is my new nickname.
It's time!
I have no time.
brendan schaub
No time!
joe rogan
He's nasty, man.
He's very nasty.
He's got real, legit, 100% one-punch power.
And when he clips guys, you can see they're like, oh, shit!
brendan schaub
And he goes bananas on them.
See, I think they should do Gustvin Jones, right?
And then do Ozdemeyer vs.
joe rogan
DC. Well, if DC wants to fight again, we're going to see what happens.
brendan schaub
Did you see what DC said?
He goes, not only am I going to fight again, I'm going to fight John again.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
Give it up.
joe rogan
My heart can't take it.
You think you should give it up?
I think he gets right back in there.
Why not?
It was a good fight up until the moment John landed that high kick.
brendan schaub
I agree.
I don't think he ever beats John.
joe rogan
You might be right, but you might be wrong.
brendan schaub
And then it gets even crazier.
See, I don't think he's ever going to get the fight either.
I don't want to see it again.
joe rogan
He certainly could if he beats a few people.
He certainly could because you could play clips of that fight and say, you know, he was doing very well in that fight.
I think John was winning.
I think John was landing more volume and he was mixing things up really well.
brendan schaub
That was ring rust, too.
That's John kind of feeling things out, and then once he got comfortable, oh, this is what we're doing.
joe rogan
He didn't seem ring rusty at all.
He seemed smooth right from the beginning.
brendan schaub
A little smooth, but I do think DC's pressure and stuff like that, and just getting under his feet, and once he did, then he started to tee off and take over.
joe rogan
I think, yeah, he found his rhythm and he found DC's timing.
And then they settled in a little bit, too, once they got into the second round.
Both guys had exerted quite a bit of energy, hit each other quite a few times.
brendan schaub
And then that third round.
I think that was DC's best chance to beat him.
Now John's off to the races.
Now it's Ozdemeyer, good luck with no time.
There's Ozdemeyer, there's Gustvin, then Brock Lesnar, you got Stipe.
I think he goes to heavyweight.
joe rogan
Who knows, man?
I mean, if they work out some sort of a deal where he fights Brock Lesnar...
brendan schaub
Oh, they will.
joe rogan
Good Lord!
brendan schaub
Come on, Joe.
Of course they will.
joe rogan
When he called him out at the end of the fight, I was like, oh my goodness.
brendan schaub
I saw Brad Pitt shadow box on Instagram.
I'm like, you better be careful, son.
UFC gonna reach out, sign you to CM Punk.
You better watch your...
joe rogan
I think Brad Pitt would fuck CM Punk.
brendan schaub
Me too, though.
The Brad Pitt from Snatch?
joe rogan
Also, I think Brad Pitt, that guy lived with Angelina Jolie for like 10 years.
You know how much rage she must have pent up inside of him?
brendan schaub
Him or Johnny Depp?
joe rogan
Talk of organic, sustainable farming and adopting new kids.
brendan schaub
You got random kids?
unidentified
Who the fuck is this?
Just run!
joe rogan
He just wants to smash, just go in there and fuck him up.
unidentified
Pit smash?
brendan schaub
Just pit smash on bitches?
joe rogan
Just so angry at listening to that crazy lady he lived with for decades.
brendan schaub
It made him an alcoholic.
joe rogan
Do you hear it?
brendan schaub
He's like, I was a raging alcoholic.
joe rogan
I'm sure he was.
brendan schaub
We got these random kids.
He goes, I love kids, but there's a new one every goddamn day.
Like, I can't keep up, man.
Just kid after kid.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Yeah, I mean, that's just my opinion.
brendan schaub
He'd slap a bitch, though.
joe rogan
I mean, maybe she's a wonderful person.
I mean, she obviously is very charitable.
brendan schaub
Maybe she's exhausting, too, though.
joe rogan
She might be exhausting!
brendan schaub
That's the vibe I get.
joe rogan
Hey, bro, she had a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood that she carried around her neck.
And Billy Bob, I'm not hating on you, she was, and is, fucking beautiful.
I get how you make some mistakes.
brendan schaub
She's a timepiece then.
joe rogan
I get how people make mistakes.
brendan schaub
Blood around your neck then?
joe rogan
Hey, what are we gonna do?
We're gonna live forever?
unidentified
I'll take a chance.
brendan schaub
I bet she was a freakin' bed.
joe rogan
For a guy like him, when does a guy like him get a girl like that?
The universes have to collide.
There has to be some wormhole.
brendan schaub
You gotta talk such mad shit, she puts your blood around her neck.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, though.
brendan schaub
Super strong dick game.
She wore blood around her neck, Joe.
joe rogan
I think they both did.
They wore each other's blood.
Yeah, that's what they're doing.
They're both wearing each other's blood.
brendan schaub
That's another level.
joe rogan
Not only that, but here's the real problem with it.
You tell people about it.
Yeah, just keep it to yourself, man.
Yeah, you're telling people about it.
brendan schaub
I tell people it's Dragon Blood or some shit, but when you tell it's her, it's a little weird.
joe rogan
Well, I think anybody that's as good an actress as she is, and she's a really fucking good actress.
She's really good.
I think you have to have a good percentage of crazy.
It's got to be way up there in the 90s.
brendan schaub
Actors, too, though.
I mean, even for men, the men actors who were really good, like Dana Day-Lewis, motherfucker was a shoe cobbler for six years just to play some 30-minute role or something.
He went full fucking cobbler, man.
joe rogan
He's working as a cobbler right now.
brendan schaub
In London or some shit.
joe rogan
No, I think he lives in Connecticut and he makes furniture or some shit.
unidentified
God!
brendan schaub
You never go full Lewis, man.
joe rogan
But that's just because he's legit.
Like, that's really who he is.
brendan schaub
Like an actual artist.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's why he's so interesting.
It's like his art or what his mind goes towards, it's not dictated by finance.
It's not dictated by the box office success you could potentially have.
It's literally dictated by what he's interested in.
If he's interested in making shoes, he's just gonna make shoes.
brendan schaub
Yeah, like, you're not gonna see him cast it as Superman.
Like, he's like, that's not his art, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
We admire the shit out of that because we compromise all the time.
People are always compromising.
You're always like, you know, trying to suck up to the boss, hoping you get that raise, or, you know, you're compromising what you say around the office because, you know, you're at this level of the company ladder.
There's people above you that'll get upset if you talk about things.
We'd love someone just free.
brendan schaub
And authentic, too.
He's like, what?
Play Batman?
Get the fuck out of here.
Batman?
joe rogan
Bruce Wayne?
unidentified
What the fuck is that?
joe rogan
Get the fuck away from me.
brendan schaub
Get out of here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Ben Affleck was like, I got this.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ben Affleck's like, this is perfect for me.
brendan schaub
This shit is perfect.
Who was the other homeboy who surprised played Batman?
joe rogan
Well, Christian Bale was the best Batman, in my opinion.
brendan schaub
Just his voice bothered me.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
It was a little fake, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, when he was like, I'm Batman.
I'm Batman.
joe rogan
But I mean, you gotta go comic book a little bit, and that's how you go comic book.
But anyway, why would it change his voice?
brendan schaub
Why with the suit?
joe rogan
He's got to make a fake voice.
You're going to make a fake voice for your superhero?
brendan schaub
So people don't recognize you're Bruce Wayne?
joe rogan
Yeah, don't you at least have some mouth thing that changes you?
brendan schaub
Does he have a cat phrase or something people would know?
joe rogan
That would be dope if you covered your face.
Why do we need to see the lower chin of Batman?
First of all, I don't think that's a good idea for protective measures.
You have a white button where the most vulnerable part of your face is.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's strange.
If I came in here and you had a bat suit on, if you had the Batman suit on, I'd be like, oh, it's Joe.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not a very good fucking...
joe rogan
The chin part is terrible because like that's the part you'd want to punch and it would be like so white If you're in a fight with Batman, just shoot for the chin.
You can't miss it.
It's like if you're hitting focus pads, you get used to looking at this one spot.
brendan schaub
It's like you have camouflage on everywhere, but no spot you're going to get knocked out of.
It's like the horrible idea when you look at it.
joe rogan
It's so stupid!
It's so ridiculous when you look at it.
It's the dumbest idea ever.
You're going to not protect the most vulnerable.
How about just open the nose part up, too?
Let your nose get smashed.
Like, that's so crazy.
brendan schaub
That's so strange.
joe rogan
Why don't they...
I mean, do they really have to have that same suit?
brendan schaub
Why come no one's ever brought this up?
joe rogan
No one's ever figured it out until us.
It's like Bruce Wayne from Batman in the fucking, like, Batman.
At least he didn't have, like, a protective suit on.
brendan schaub
Adam West?
No, he just had the thing over his eyes like this.
joe rogan
He was just in disguise.
Like, this Batman...
brendan schaub
He's in spandex.
joe rogan
This Batman has gotten to the point where he's in basically an armored suit, right?
And meanwhile, he doesn't cover his face.
Oh, it was Superman.
He covered a little bit of it.
brendan schaub
He's basically a knight there.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, he's going to war with Superman.
Do you know how goddamn stupid that is?
brendan schaub
And doing work.
I watched it the other day.
He kind of whooped his ass.
joe rogan
Dude, Superman is from another planet.
He can fly so fast, he makes the world spin backwards.
He makes time go backwards.
He's a master of time.
He can cut things in half with his eyeballs.
He's got lasers, shoots out of his eyes.
brendan schaub
He can just pick his dumb ass up and carry him as high as he wants and lets him go.
joe rogan
Yeah, into space.
unidentified
Game over.
brendan schaub
Movie's over.
joe rogan
He can bring you to the sun.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
And throw you into the sun, you fucking idiot.
brendan schaub
What the fuck are we talking about, Hollywood?
unidentified
He flies!
brendan schaub
He's got bullshit on my face.
joe rogan
How crazy is the idea that gravity is so dense...
On Superman's world, that when he comes to Earth, he can fly.
And then the atmosphere is so different that his body's bulletproof, but he looks just like us.
But the atmosphere, this is what people don't understand.
If you went somewhere, if you're like from Earth, right, and then you go to like somewhere that has like less gravity, like space.
Like those guys that go to the space station?
They're fucked up after a year.
It doesn't make them stronger.
It makes them weaker.
brendan schaub
They get weaker.
joe rogan
Their bones shrink.
They come back, man, and their bones atrophy.
They lose bone density.
They come back and they're frail.
brendan schaub
Can't be healthy.
That's why there's only a certain amount of time you can be there, right?
The longest is right over a year?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they've hit the new record.
I think a guy hit the new record.
But I had...
Damn, what is his name?
Commander Chris...
Hadfield.
I had him on the podcast.
He was fascinating.
And he was describing what it was like coming back from...
How long was he up there for?
I think it was a year, right?
brendan schaub
He just came back looking like Schmeagle or some shit?
joe rogan
He just said, when you land...
He said, 879 days.
God!
Oh my God, there's a Russian up there.
He's been for five missions.
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
Those Russians...
joe rogan
He became the man who spent the most time in space when he surpassed...
So that's like overall time...
That guy just keeps going to space.
brendan schaub
2.2 years over six trips, though.
joe rogan
That dude's trying to get away from his wife.
That's five years.
brendan schaub
Russians always got to take it to another level, don't they?
joe rogan
I think you'd have to say, what's the longest space mission or something?
brendan schaub
216 days.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the most, huh?
That was 2015. I believe Commander Hatfield was after that.
brendan schaub
Still a long-ass time.
joe rogan
I might not be right about that.
But either way, fucking 100 days.
Shit.
I don't want to do 100 days in the woods.
brendan schaub
Dude, I don't want to do 10 days on the road.
10 days, I was super lonely.
I felt like I was in space.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about that.
Like, you got to bring friends.
It's a big, big part of it.
And it's good for the friends, too.
It's, you know, get guys a gig like that where they can open up for you in front of a packed house.
These cool venues.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Also, like, warm up the crowd.
unidentified
Like, I'm going out there just, like, Which is fine.
joe rogan
You know, the only time I ever did that in the last 10 years was when I was helping Callan out.
When I warmed the crowd up for Callan's special.
And I was like, this is so weird to go on stage and say hi and not have someone in front of you.
But it's a good exercise.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because you've got to get them into it.
joe rogan
It brought me right back to when I used to do it.
It was like...
Right away, I started thinking of how, when I first started out, most of the shows I would do would be the opening act.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Like in Dublin, doing a show at 2 in the afternoon was just crazy, man.
joe rogan
Now, why'd you guys do it like that?
brendan schaub
They booked on such short notice, that's the way I'd do it at 2 and I'd do another one at 7. Oh, wow.
That's just the way they wanted to do it.
joe rogan
How did you get away from those savages after the show was over?
brendan schaub
I did a meet-and-greet with everyone, and then they bounced.
They're like, hey, let's get a pint.
I'm like, which one?
Like, up there?
I'm like, see you there!
And I just, like, chill.
I drank so much Guinness, it was ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, they'll put you down.
brendan schaub
I loved it, man.
Loved it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different world over there.
It really is.
Ireland, England, you know, they have a long history of tradition that we don't really understand, you know?
Just...
Just what their culture's like, you know, their language and their history.
You go over there, you're like, oh, this pub is 700 years old.
Like, what?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I went to, it was supposed to be the oldest pub in Ireland, and there was bullet holes from fighting, you know, the rebels.
Wow.
They were in there, and his family owned since day one.
And the owner was this dude who was old as fuck now, but he was born and raised upstairs.
He lives there now.
He's the only one still alive.
unidentified
Poof.
brendan schaub
We were there just all night with Patty Hooligan.
It was great, man.
unidentified
It was great.
brendan schaub
It was so awesome.
Just sipping Guinness and eating crisp.
Shit my pants afterwards, but it was great.
joe rogan
No, crisps are potato chips, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I call them crisps.
I'm from there.
joe rogan
Oh, you're from there.
brendan schaub
They're crisps.
joe rogan
Do you call football football or soccer?
brendan schaub
I say American football.
Because I have a bit that I talk about football and I go, American football.
Otherwise, you're screwed.
joe rogan
You're super screwed.
brendan schaub
But you know what's best for me, Joe, is like, I did, what was it, like 10 shows in four days or something like that.
And I wish I could do it more here.
It's just the reps for me.
The reps.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That's what we're talking about.
Comedy club weekends are so good.
brendan schaub
So good.
joe rogan
Like when I did Salt Lake, Salt Lake City, when I did Wise Guys, I was like, man, I really get to feel it again, like what it's like to do four one-hour shows in a weekend.
It's like it gets every timing down.
And then taglines, they start adding on.
You start coming up with new ideas.
Dude, what is it about coffee that gives you phlegm?
Even just fucking...
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
This is just cold brew.
Caveman cold brew.
Those nitro coffees.
brendan schaub
There's no dairy or anything.
joe rogan
I'm always ready to cough.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Or clear my throat.
And it's annoying.
brendan schaub
I feel like it's an older thing.
joe rogan
Nah, man.
It's always been that way with me with coffee.
It's an older thing.
unidentified
Old guys get all phlegmy.
joe rogan
Junior!
Get my king!
brendan schaub
I mean, I drink a shitload of coffee and my voice is good.
joe rogan
You know when it is?
For whatever weird reason, when, like, if a guest is talking, like, if you've got a good story and your story goes on for a few minutes, and then I don't talk for a while, it all builds up.
brendan schaub
So you just gotta jump in.
You have to jump in.
joe rogan
That's Calum's secret.
He's always trying to avoid coughing.
brendan schaub
I told Cal, you need to get your fucking throat checked out.
I mean, he's been doing it since I've known him.
joe rogan
The coughing thing?
brendan schaub
Non-stop.
joe rogan
Sucking dicks, bro.
brendan schaub
AIDS. Sucking dicks, bro.
Sucking dicks.
joe rogan
So, about football, man.
I wanted to ask you about this.
Because we were talking recently about this guy who retired.
Super young.
He was like 26, right?
Some dude just retired from the NFL? Yeah, I'm dying, Joe.
brendan schaub
Is that what you're asking?
joe rogan
No, no.
What I'm asking is, like, you as a guy who's played football and as a guy who sees all this shit that's coming out now, do you think there's going to be a change in the game?
Do you think there's going to be, like, less people that are signing up for it?
brendan schaub
That's what they say.
And they say, like, with the youth leagues now, they're like, oh, we're teaching them how to hit proper.
But it's like...
There's no such thing.
It's not real.
That's a fun campaign and stuff like that, but is America ever going to get rid of football because of CT? No, man.
It's part of the game.
It's literally part of the game.
Wait till the UFC numbers come out.
You're going to be surprised.
I have friends now.
I talk to them like, oh my god, man.
Do you not realize what's going on here?
And so once that comes out, now we know it with boxing and mixed martial arts.
Of course there's going to be brain trauma.
Guys are getting punched in the head.
With football, people are like, what?
But it's literally part of the game.
It's just, it is what it is.
Now, is juice worth the squeeze?
In football, the argument is, it depends.
For your health, if you're coming from nothing, it pays for your college, you make, you know, $40 million, your family, your family, their family, set for life.
God, the juice might be worth the squeeze, depending on how bad you're going to have it.
joe rogan
If you can get to that level.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, there's probably a lot of guys who wash out.
brendan schaub
More likely than not, they wash out.
joe rogan
Yeah, I knew a dude who washed out, and he was really fucked up.
The point where he was seeing shit that wasn't there.
He would go out in the yard and start talking to himself.
brendan schaub
God, such a bummer, man.
joe rogan
Not good.
brendan schaub
Everyone responds different, but they say the biggest thing, and I guess it's the biggest thing because I've played football since I was, what, six years old, but when you're young, hitting.
When you're young, hitting, it's just like you shouldn't hit until, you know, they say probably to high school, but if you don't hit until you're in high school, you're going to get left behind.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting about that is that there's a real good argument when it comes to striking.
That if you can teach kids how to play fight when they're young, just make sure they play fight.
You know, you don't want them, like, going to war.
Teach them, like, the quick way to teach them.
Teach them how to play fight striking when they're young.
Like, do, like, Thai-style kickboxing.
Or, you know, like, just where you're boxing but you're not hitting too hard.
Because they're not going to hit each other hard anyway.
Right?
They can't.
They don't hit that hard.
And then on top of that, teach them to not hit hard at all, and then teach them to be real solid on technique.
Then, they're super accustomed to the movements of striking, and then you get them to a position when they're like 16, 18. They've been boxing their whole fucking life.
And their movements are fully ingrained to the point where an average athlete coming into it at a later age, without all those super fine-tuned movements ingrained in you while you were growing up and developing...
You almost don't have a chance, you know, like when he gets to like a Roy Jones jr. In his prime level for sure You know if you're like an average athlete who learns boxing at 26 and then you At 30 have to box Roy Jones.
I mean good enjoy that good fucking I don't care what kind of athlete you are No, it doesn't matter.
Fucking luck.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
And some people make that argument with Floyd Mayweather.
They say, listen, his uncle, his dad, he's been doing since he was, what, six?
joe rogan
He's the best argument.
brendan schaub
The best argument.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The best argument.
joe rogan
He never gets hit.
He's been hit in a professional career that spanned 49 fights.
He's been hit maybe hard seven or eight times.
brendan schaub
True.
And there's a few X-Factors in this fight.
The only kind of thing that gives people hope if you're on Team MMA or Team Conor, which is not MMA versus boxing, but if you're Team Conor, is these X-Factors of Floyd's had two years off, right?
He's had two years off.
But in the past, he's taken time off and he comes back better.
But he is 40. So that has to be something.
And the other thing, why is he doing it?
Is he doing it for money?
Is he doing it for attention?
Why is he coming back to get to 50?
And then the 8-ounce gloves, which they officially approved today.
8-ounce gloves is a huge, huge advance for Conor, I think, man.
joe rogan
It's all interesting, man.
brendan schaub
But they're all X-Factors, right?
To be honest, no one really knows.
I think I have an idea what I think's going to happen, but no one knows.
And that's why I think the footage of Conor sparring Pauly is such a big deal, because people go, oh shit, no, he can actually box.
And I even think Dane and the Fertittas, who were there watching, go, uh, we actually got something here.
And that's why it was such a big deal.
Because I think everyone's like, alright, Conor, MMA, he's good.
I've seen him move around.
I'm telling you, this dude, as far as boxing, he's going to give you guys some problems.
He's going to give you the best all-time problems.
Who knows?
joe rogan
What kind of training had Paulie been doing before that fight?
What kind of shape was he in?
brendan schaub
Not in 12-round shape.
Paulie just got off the plane.
joe rogan
Why did he do 12 rounds?
brendan schaub
That's what they asked him to.
joe rogan
Had he been training?
brendan schaub
He got word from Conor's team that they're going to use him, so he started to train some, but it's not like he was getting ready for a fight fight.
So that's what he said.
Man, you know, for me to go 12 rounds was tough.
Like, I wasn't expecting to go all 12 rounds.
Because the first day they used him, I think he said he only did six or eight rounds.
And then he was like, oh, we're going to spar tomorrow more and I'll get in better shape, stuff like that, get used to the fighting shape.
And they didn't use him.
Then he flew to cover the Mikey Garcia-Broner fight and then came back and he was fresh off the plane and then he sparred 12 rounds.
So he's like, they just did me dirty, man.
That's his whole thing.
His feelings are hurt.
He's like, why would they do that, man?
I was here to help them.
joe rogan
Well, that's the kind of help they wanted.
They just wanted the kind of help that he didn't want to give.
They wanted the kind of help where Conor beats the fuck out of a world champion.
unidentified
Correct.
brendan schaub
And that's what Conor said, though.
Like, in Conor's defense, when they go, oh, you're bringing Polly Ingos.
Yeah, I'm bringing him.
He says it's on Showtime during the media scrum.
He goes, yeah, I'm bringing him in to fuck him up.
He said that?
Yeah.
He goes, yeah, I'm going to bring him in and fuck him up.
Word for word.
That's undocumented.
So then Polly gets in and goes, oh, we'll spar and be all good.
But remember, six months prior to this, Polly goes, I could beat Connor with one hand tied behind my back.
Connor's like a baby elephant.
He stores that and he's like, all right, man.
joe rogan
Oh, he said that?
Whoops.
brendan schaub
But he thought it was just hyping the fight.
You know, he thought they would spar and be like boys, but that just didn't happen.
Like, Connor's literally there just to prove a point.
joe rogan
Well, it's a very important point to prove before a giant fight like that.
Like, that video alone is probably worth who knows how many thousands of hundreds of thousands of buys.
Priceless.
brendan schaub
Priceless.
joe rogan
That's worth so much money.
I mean, a lot of people were going to buy the fight anyway, but how many more people are going to buy the fight now that you see Conor landing that straight left?
And then dropping Paulie, and Paulie said is a pushdown, and you could see that it's not a pushdown.
I mean, it's just not.
If you get pushed down like that, you're probably concussed already.
brendan schaub
Yeah, if your balance is off, I see what you're saying.
joe rogan
That's so bad.
Like, he was saying something about him getting grabbed on the back of the head.
You could watch it, watch the knockdown.
brendan schaub
Pauly's saying it's dirty.
I get that.
joe rogan
He signed up for it.
brendan schaub
It's a fight.
But the other thing is Pauly's saying, you know, and he goes, take what you want from the videos, but I think Connor and his team and Dana fucked up putting this out because now Floyd Mayweather's team knows this is how he fights.
Like this is the dirty stuff he does so they can warn the ref.
joe rogan
There ain't nothing dirty there.
The grab behind the head's dirty.
brendan schaub
In boxing, that's dirty.
You can get away with it, but that's frowned upon.
joe rogan
It's gonna happen.
brendan schaub
Those rabbit punches.
But Floyd's gonna do that.
joe rogan
See, this part right here.
Give me some volume on that so you can hear that.
He's hitting him hard, man.
Okay, you know, he hits him with a straight left that's clean, and then it looks like he's wobbled and he hits him with a right hand afterwards.
Like, play that part one more time when he goes down.
Like, you can't...
I don't see an argument.
I've tried to look at it.
brendan schaub
Of a pushdown?
joe rogan
I don't see it.
I don't see it.
This is the beginning part.
brendan schaub
And that's a legit ref, by the way.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Joe Cortez.
brendan schaub
Super legit.
unidentified
Oh!
Dude, he's beating the shit out of me.
joe rogan
Okay, I don't give a fuck what anybody says.
Like, if he can land those combinations on Paulie Malignaggi like that at any point in life, that is...
brendan schaub
Homework in box.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
He's hitting hard, too.
brendan schaub
To me, that validates Conor.
But at the same time, in Paulie's defense, you know, it's 9-12 round fight shape.
He's exhausted.
unidentified
I get all that.
joe rogan
I get all that.
brendan schaub
But still...
joe rogan
Paulie should have never done that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he messed up.
joe rogan
He must have underestimated him.
brendan schaub
You know, I had Andre Berto on my show, and he's supposed to help Conor out.
And he's like, I ain't going up there.
And he's good friends with Conor.
Conor did rehab together.
He's like, no, I'm not going up there, man.
He goes, just because...
And he had a good point.
He goes, let's say I go up there and help Conor, and for whatever reason, he doesn't think he's going to win.
He goes, let's say he blasted Floyd Mayweather in the face.
I mean, it's so much hate from the boxing world.
Like, it's a fraternity, man.
And he's like, and the way he did Pauly, like, we just can't do it, man.
He goes, I wish him the best, but I'm not going to help him.
joe rogan
Well, I also think that if he's peaking and he's in full fight shape and they're making you fight 12 rounds, I mean, when you're in the gym and you're sparring 12 rounds, isn't that unusual that you get one guy to box 12 rounds with you?
brendan schaub
Oh, no, no, no.
It was designed for Paulie to get beat up.
Yeah.
I feel like Paulie's a team player.
I don't know if you've ever met Paulie.
He loves you.
But if you've ever met Paulie, like...
I feel like he's such a good guy, he didn't say anything.
Listen, if you brought me in to do anything, I've had guys that wanted me to help him with camps, I turn it down, and you're like, hey, we need you to go 5-5s.
That ain't happening.
I'll give you one round, two rounds for the best condition.
Usually you do a shark tank.
You know how it is, Joe.
You bring in fresh guys for different looks and push you harder.
joe rogan
So this is just a showcase of Conor's abilities at Paulie's expense.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
I like Paulie as a commentator.
I think he's one of the best in the world.
unidentified
He's brilliant.
joe rogan
He's really, really good.
He offers real legitimate insight.
brendan schaub
He's really, really good.
joe rogan
Do you think that he got rocked and doesn't remember how this went?
Did he think that he maybe did think that he got pushed down?
brendan schaub
No, again, I think it's a combination of both.
I think, you know, Pauly had won some, and he even says, he goes, I won some rounds, Conor won some rounds.
You know?
joe rogan
I'd like to see it all, right?
brendan schaub
Me too, and the UFC said they're going to release it after the fight.
Which is, that's going to be the real test.
joe rogan
It's going to be a real test, because Dana said it was a one-sided beatdown.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Dana was like, he has asked for 12 rounds, which I don't believe that.
joe rogan
What if it's true?
You've got to go with what Pauly did say happened, and then what you see happened.
brendan schaub
I think it's a combination of both.
I really do.
I think, again, I think it's people who are like, you know, everyone's on this Conor wagon, especially in the UFC. Dana, that's his golden boy, right?
And I think we knew Conor could box, but then when you see him doing it against Pauly, you're like, oh, shit.
And so even, I bet when we watch the tape, we're like, oh, damn, Conor did pretty well.
I don't think he beat the shit out of Pauly for 12 rounds.
I think towards the end, you see that?
That happened.
joe rogan
Well, obviously...
Listen, this has obviously been very valuable.
If there were more moments like this, don't you think they would leak those too?
brendan schaub
Correct.
They'd be everywhere.
joe rogan
I mean, they're saying they don't want him to see what Connor's working on.
Okay, just show us a montage of punches that landed.
brendan schaub
Just give me one of those Mike Tyson 60-second highlights.
joe rogan
Just show me a few...
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you don't have to show all of its patterns.
brendan schaub
But how well did this hype?
This is priceless, man.
joe rogan
Giant.
Huge.
brendan schaub
And now Pauly, you have this huge soap opera in boxing going on right now.
Pauly's a main character now.
joe rogan
Pauly might have to fight Conor.
Even if Floyd and Conor, if Floyd beats Conor.
And then Paulie can say, look, I want my shot at him.
You know, you talked a lot of shit and I didn't get in shape.
brendan schaub
If you're Conor, that's the play.
But it's only the play if Conor has a good showing.
Even if he loses the decision, as long as he has a good showing, then you do McGregor promotions against Paulie Malignaggi, and I'm buying that shit.
Fuck fighting Khabib, Tony Ferguson, all that.
Elbow jiu-jitsu shit, nah!
We're going to put on these eight ounces, go 12 rounds, and make some money.
joe rogan
Some serious money.
That's a lot of people think he'll never fight MMA again.
I mean, he's going to make $100 million from this fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, probably more.
With sponsors, yeah.
joe rogan
That's...
A lot of money.
brendan schaub
That's Scrooge McDuck, Rich.
unidentified
That's...
brendan schaub
We're going Sizzler.
unidentified
He's not even 30!
joe rogan
We're going Sizzler.
brendan schaub
He has a son.
You know, he's a smart guy.
I think the play would...
And I know a lot of UFC people are like, that's because you're never a fighter shop.
No, I get that.
Give any UFC fighter $100 million.
They're both throwing up deuces, going, fucking see ya.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
This is way too hard of a life.
100 mil?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Sitting in satin sheets and I can go fight Pauly for another whatever, 50 mil probably of my own money?
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
Ooh.
Or I'll go fight Nate Diaz in a trilogy.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
90% or more, Conor McGregor vs.
Floyd Mayweather.
Money Man says Notorious will lose 90% of his $75 million payday if he's disqualified.
Yeah, yeah, I know that.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's if he does an MMA move on him.
brendan schaub
He won't, though.
People ask that all the time.
unidentified
He's not going to get disqualified.
brendan schaub
Can you throw a Superman punch, spinning punch?
I'm like, get out of my face.
Absolutely not.
joe rogan
You can't.
It's too bad you can't throw a spinning backfist, though.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Imagine that shit.
brendan schaub
I mean, you have some gentleman rules, for God's sake.
joe rogan
Could you imagine, though, if Floyd said you could throw elbows?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
I'm surprised he has it.
Eight-ounce gloves.
We'll do whatever you want to do.
Let's do this.
Let's do this.
joe rogan
Could you imagine?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
And you get elbows and you can throw one kick around.
joe rogan
And the guy can clinch and throw elbows from the clinch.
Do you ever see the sequence where Jordan Meehan knocked out Cyborg in Strikeforce?
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
It's nasty.
It's one of the nastiest sequences of standing elbows.
Horrible.
Like a fucking seminar on how to land a standing elbow.
brendan schaub
The most vicious elbow of all time.
Cyborg's taking some shots to the dome.
unidentified
Dude.
brendan schaub
That knee he got from Michael Venom Page?
joe rogan
The knee caved in his head.
brendan schaub
Page killed a guy.
joe rogan
He did?
brendan schaub
Goddamn Nair killed him.
I mean, he had to have all constructive...
joe rogan
Oh, I thought you said he could kill a different guy.
brendan schaub
He basically had to put mesh wiring all over his face now.
He's a superhero now.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he said he was going to fight again, then he changed his body.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let's not do that though, huh?
joe rogan
I mean, who knows how his dome works right now.
I mean, after you get hit like that and your skull caves in...
brendan schaub
Poor to very poor.
Who knows?
Everyone's different.
Everyone changes different.
joe rogan
Here it is right here.
Look at this.
He hits him with a liver shot, a left-right.
brendan schaub
It doesn't happen until they get to the case.
joe rogan
Okay, boom, boom.
unidentified
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
joe rogan
I mean, look at that.
I mean, come on, man.
He just hit him with like 13 fucking straight elbows to the head.
brendan schaub
Did you think they stopped DC Jones early?
I mean, the late?
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
brendan schaub
Right?
joe rogan
Yes.
Come on, brother.
I think you're giving the guy the best chance he can.
You're John McCarthy.
You know how tough he is.
brendan schaub
John's the best in the world, too.
He's right there.
I hate criticizing him, but I thought it was two punches too late.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Two or three.
Also, the delayed effect of that head kick.
You got head kicked, then you see his legs buckle and he's wobbling around.
And then when he goes down up against the cage, it wasn't a real significant thing.
His legs weren't working right.
brendan schaub
No, it's game over.
The game's over there.
joe rogan
He was already hurt bad.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
And then John jumps on top of him and is just wailing on him.
He could have stopped at one or two punches earlier.
But, you know, in his eyes, what if DC recovers?
What if he rolls over, gets to guard?
What if he holds on to John?
brendan schaub
My belief is live to fight another day.
joe rogan
I agree with you, too.
I totally agree with you, but I'm just looking at it from John's point of view.
brendan schaub
I get it, and I don't even like criticizing John.
It's like, man, I thought that was too late.
joe rogan
A lot of people thought that was too late.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's tough to watch with DC. My thing with DC, and you talk about him coming back, he's, what is he, 39, 38?
joe rogan
I think so.
brendan schaub
39. He has a great job with the UFC as far as UFC tonight, right?
He's kind of becoming the guy UFC tonight.
He's doing commentating with you.
He's traveling all around.
joe rogan
No, he's great at commentary.
brendan schaub
You know, does he ever beat John?
I don't think so.
So, what are you gonna do?
Fight Gustafson again?
Ozdenmeyer?
You know, I don't know what his pay is, but, you know, at some point, you know, health has to take into account with this.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Gustafson fight was a grueling five-round fight, you know?
Remember, that was a very, very tough fight.
brendan schaub
That was a great fight.
joe rogan
Very good fight.
brendan schaub
Gustafson's been this fucking close, man.
joe rogan
I think Gustafson's better now than ever before, though.
brendan schaub
Me too.
That's why I want to see him and John.
joe rogan
Against Glover, I was like, Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
He looked amazing.
joe rogan
And the combinations he was landing.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
joe rogan
That whip-like uppercut from the outside.
See, the thing about him is he's the only guy that can match John for distance and reach.
brendan schaub
Size, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, no one else is like him.
brendan schaub
Not even close.
joe rogan
And Gustafson is also more mobile than John.
Like, he's...
John is, like, very creative, mixes things up more.
But Gustafson is more, like, bouncing around and footwork.
unidentified
He has better footwork.
brendan schaub
He has better footwork, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very agile.
And he's also the first guy to ever land a Takedown on John.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
And I think he's better.
I think he's better now than he was then.
brendan schaub
Me too.
That'd be a great fight.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it would be.
brendan schaub
You know, they were asking John, how about John was on Good Morning America, getting interviewed by Michael Strahan.
Good Lord, do things change.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Yeah, right?
So he's on Good Morning America, and they asked him about what's next, and he talked about, you know, he'd like to fight Brock.
Like, that's always been kind of his thing, and Connor kind of set that with these super fights.
But, you know, Brock can't fight to, I think, whatever.
He has 18 months or some shit.
I'm sure a slip in the back door or some shit.
Like, whoops, what's this?
Juice to the gills.
I'd still watch it.
Yeah.
So they talked about Gus Finn.
They go, what about Madison Square Garden?
And he goes, not happening because they want to tax me another 10% of a fight in New York.
So he's like, I won't fight in Madison Square Garden.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
I know.
I feel like USC be like, fuck your 10% here.
Just fight in Madison Square Garden.
Let's figure this out.
joe rogan
Take a little extra piece there.
brendan schaub
Here, Mighty Mouse.
Give us some of your purse.
unidentified
There you go.
brendan schaub
Ain't mighty messy.
No, give me that.
joe rogan
What if John put a no steroid test clause?
Go ahead, Brock.
Go take your shit.
brendan schaub
Brock, you do your shit, I'm going to do my cocaina, and I'm going to be up all night long.
joe rogan
No drug test clause.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm talking about.
Doing like Dubai or some shit.
joe rogan
But if he just says to him, I don't give a fuck what you do, I'm going to beat your ass.
And then Brock's got to go, oh my god.
brendan schaub
Brock's like, full pain?
joe rogan
Shit!
Brock gets up to 290, cuts down to 265. I don't know if Jon can fuck with that.
brendan schaub
That's a scary dude.
joe rogan
But Kane fucked that Brock up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, King kind of did work on it.
joe rogan
But he did have that stomach virus.
Yeah, that stomach issue.
Diverticulitis, right?
brendan schaub
Overeem also fucked him up when he was Bane Brock.
joe rogan
Well, that was a crazy fight for him to take after recovering from surgery where he got 12 inches of his colon removed.
brendan schaub
And we're talking Uber-eem.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was Uber-eem to the max.
unidentified
Kicked him in the gut like a straight-up murderer.
joe rogan
When he was 265?
brendan schaub
Kicked him in the gut.
Oh, you just had surgery there?
joe rogan
That Oberyn.
See, that is like, he's like one of the best arguments for no testing.
brendan schaub
He's still kind of killing it with the gold testing, too.
joe rogan
He's great, but it's a different Overeem.
Like, this Overeem, the heavyweight Grand Prix, K1 heavyweight Grand Prix Overeem, there's never been a fighter like that before.
Like, look at the size of him there!
brendan schaub
You're never going to see that again, ever, in the UFC. Look at those physiques.
joe rogan
He was so jacked!
brendan schaub
They look like giant Phil Heath.
Like, you're never going to see these two again.
It's not kick like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's just all over him.
Brock can't take him down.
He's got some of the best knees in the business, man.
Super good technique.
It's just, I miss this Overeem where he was just dominating people with power.
brendan schaub
See, the Overeem now that...
Good God.
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
That fucking Instagram kick to the gut.
The Overeem now that is steroid-free...
He does that move where he runs away.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Steroid Overeem never ran?!
What the fuck is that?
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
Like, when he was on steroids, good luck getting him to step an inch back.
Now he's clean, that motherfucker's sprinting.
joe rogan
Remember when he fought Todd Duffy and Dream?
Did you ever see that fight?
brendan schaub
I trained Todd for that fight, and I was supposed to corner him.
joe rogan
Todd Duffy was super promising before that fight.
brendan schaub
Well, Todd took that on short notice.
joe rogan
Don't do it!
I would be like, don't do it, son!
brendan schaub
Bro, gotta fight.
Who?
Over him, Dream.
Don't do that.
joe rogan
Listen, you have a lot of talent.
You could be huge.
This is not the way to get huge.
brendan schaub
I feel like it's a bad idea.
joe rogan
To get obliterated in Japan with short notice.
Japan, what is it about calling people like a week before the fight going, what are you up to Saturday?
brendan schaub
All advantages for the home team, man.
joe rogan
And wasn't this post-UFC Duffy?
Because he had that UFC fight where he won, like, it was one of the fastest fights ever, won by knockout.
brendan schaub
Tim Haag.
Knocked him out with a jab.
Eight seconds.
Rest in peace, Tim Haag.
joe rogan
Yeah, rest in peace, Tim Haag.
What a terrible, terrible story.
brendan schaub
Duffy's j-j-jack, too.
joe rogan
He was super jacked.
brendan schaub
So talented.
joe rogan
Oh, really, really talented.
So he goes in there, and he fights Overeem at his most Overeem ever.
Look at him.
unidentified
Look at him.
How confident he is.
Aject!
Yeah!
brendan schaub
It's like a death sentence, isn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a monster back then.
And then, when you think about him, like, bordering on both sports, right?
He's like K-1 Grand Prix champion, still fighting MMA. It's all like in the same time period.
And his striking is just off the charts because of it.
brendan schaub
And you can't take him down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like Duffy just went after him, man.
brendan schaub
Should I take him down?
joe rogan
Shoes on and everything.
Boom, he gets clipped.
brendan schaub
That's the move for Duffy, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is a move.
brendan schaub
The body shot is what gets Duffy here, though.
joe rogan
But you're right here, but I'm not backing up, too.
Look, just boom.
So much power.
Forward, right hand, left hand.
unidentified
Boom.
brendan schaub
There's no running from Uberine.
joe rogan
He wasn't running.
brendan schaub
No, that's not even in his thought process.
Now, you throw a jab, I'm gonna fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Slides out the way.
joe rogan
Well, he's also older, and he's taking more punishment, too.
You've got to think, the knockouts that he's had just in the UFC. Stipe knocked him unconscious.
Travis Brown knocked him unconscious.
brendan schaub
That was a while ago, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, there's been...
How many people knocked him out?
brendan schaub
He has more knockout losses than anyone in the UFC. Yeah.
joe rogan
Rothwell knocked him out.
brendan schaub
Rothwell, Steve Bay.
He beat JDS, didn't he?
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
He knocked him out.
brendan schaub
He's had a couple issues.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of other fights that he's had.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, I'd love to see Overeem versus your boyfriend, Francis Ganell.
joe rogan
Oh my god, I would love to see that.
brendan schaub
Francis has JDS coming up, but...
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Bigfoot Silva knocked him out, too.
brendan schaub
Oh, that Bigfoot Silva one was rough.
joe rogan
That was a rough one.
It was real rough, because he was standing up and Bigfoot teed off on him.
Just ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
brendan schaub
But then look at him.
He mercs, dude.
Struve, Nelson, JDS, Orlovsky.
Loses Stipe for the title.
joe rogan
The Struve fight was brutal.
brendan schaub
No, that Mark Hunt fight was rough.
He flatlined Mark Hunt.
Mark Hunt's fighting again.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's fighting that Russian dude.
He's ranked like 10 or something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he's fighting, uh, isn't that, uh, is that in Australia?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Yeah.
Australia or New Zealand.
I'm surprised, yeah, he's still doing the damn thing.
joe rogan
It's a good move, man.
You have a fucking Mark Hunt fight in New Zealand?
brendan schaub
He's a huge draw out there.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Gigantic.
brendan schaub
Sydney.
joe rogan
Tibor is a good fighter, man.
I love Sydney.
Tibor has, like, got sneaky, uh, sneaky left high kick.
brendan schaub
Dude, these Russians and that whole area, these motherfuckers, they're already taking over boxing.
They're slowly creeping into MMA. How about...
Khabib!
joe rogan
I don't know.
What's going on with him?
brendan schaub
Well, you got Tony Furst and Kevin Lee now fighting for the interim title.
joe rogan
They just don't think Khabib can make the weight?
brendan schaub
I don't know what's going on.
They asked him to fight, right?
And he was like, no, I need more time.
It's just the boat's passing him by.
joe rogan
You need more time?
He must be injured.
brendan schaub
Tiramisu?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Tiramisu!
brendan schaub
And I like Khabib.
He's such a talent, but it's so frustrating.
I fucking love some tiramisu.
I get it, Khabib.
joe rogan
You know, it's like when you don't, you know you shouldn't be eating this, but you're like, fuck it.
Let's get dessert.
brendan schaub
Dude, if I go, what do you have dessert?
And they go, well, we have world famous tiramisu.
Bring that.
Then you got some coffee with it.
joe rogan
Double espresso, please.
brendan schaub
Game over, son.
joe rogan
I got you, Khabib.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
I get it.
brendan schaub
I get it.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
My man Cam Haynes runs these ultra marathons every year.
Last year he ran the Bigfoot 2000 or 200. It's 205, 205 miles.
And this year he's running this Moab one.
It's 234 miles.
He cuts down from 180 pounds, which is what he weighs normally.
brendan schaub
Lean too.
joe rogan
He's down to 160 now.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
You know how he does it?
He works out and burns off more calories than he eats.
That's it.
brendan schaub
And he feels good doing it?
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll burn off 3,000 calories, eat 2,000.
brendan schaub
It's a little different, though.
joe rogan
If he can do it, if he can do that...
Then Khabib can do that, too.
They can all do that.
All you have to do is just work hard, do a lot of fucking cardio, put a lot of hours in training, and eat less than you're eating.
brendan schaub
Here's the thing, though.
joe rogan
You'll shrink.
brendan schaub
You'll shrink.
Yeah, it's science.
But here's the thing.
You can hire someone to do that, to make sure you make that weight.
joe rogan
Well, he's also a very strict Muslim, and so he celebrates Ramadan, which makes it a real issue for guys to fight.
Although, someone just did that in the UFC. Ramadan?
Yeah, and got through it.
brendan schaub
Went through Ramadan, then fought?
joe rogan
His nickname is, remember the name?
Bilal Muhammad.
Bilal Muhammad went through Ramadan while he was training.
He just did it very smart.
And he scheduled his training for after his meal.
brendan schaub
What a badass.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he fought great.
brendan schaub
With Khabib though, it's like, you know, at 55, it's kind of a clusterfuck there, and he's just getting left in the dust.
joe rogan
I think he has real issues with his body from losing extreme amounts of weight.
brendan schaub
And listen, I love AK, and I think Crazy Bob Cook belongs in the UFC Hall of Fame, MMA Hall of Fame.
He's a straight-up genius.
joe rogan
Yeah, him and Javier.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but those boys, I don't know what's going on there with Kane.
joe rogan
Well, you know what it is?
Here's what I think it is.
At the top level of that, you have two of the best First of all, arguably the best heavyweight ever in Kane, and then you got one of the best light heavyweights ever in Daniel, and they're going to war all the time.
brendan schaub
Toss Luke Rockhold in there.
joe rogan
And Luke Rockhold's in the mix, too.
And they also, you only have a certain amount of years of being able to do that.
So then you see Kane's body breaking down.
I mean, you can't just attribute that only to his training there, because there's some questionable weightlifting videos of him online.
brendan schaub
The deadlift.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's not even a deadlift, man.
It's like he's doing a kettlebell swing with shit form, and they're doing high reps of all kinds of weird shit.
Steve Maxwell saw it, and he was furious.
brendan schaub
But the thing is, a lot of MMA guys, if they don't come from a football background, most of them you're going to see lift like that, to be honest.
joe rogan
Well, the problem was he had a trainer, and people were feeling like the trainer was doing a shit job.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I mean, yeah, 100%.
And I'm not blaming injuries and delays in fights on AKA, but I think, and it's not up to them, I think, again, like you were saying, you have the toughest guys in the world competing every day, you have Khabib, you have all these guys, and things are going to happen.
joe rogan
I think there's two different schools of thought, and I don't know who's right.
There's a school of thought where you just fucking go in there and you go to war all the time and the cream rises to the top and you get hardened by the combat and you come out of it the best fighter in the world.
brendan schaub
1997. You know what?
joe rogan
It was Kane for a while, right?
Until all these injuries started piling up.
But I think there's another way of looking at it.
Well, there's two different other ways of looking at it.
When you get to a Conor situation, then you get a super camp that's designed around you.
And then you get these people who are working with you on various aspects of your game.
Your sparring partners are planned accordingly.
There's a bunch of people that you work with that, you know, their goal is to get you better for this fight.
brendan schaub
And I would say GSP is the one who really started that.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
For us, a hobby.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I think these guys that are doing this today, you know, it's like, how do you do it?
Do you do it the old school way, which has always been proven?
You can make some tough motherfuckers that way.
Or do you do it the ATT way, where you have this gigantic program, where you have all world-class coaches and athletes, and you're putting together all these people, and you just have a giant super team.
brendan schaub
Look at their roster, too.
But again, not that Javier didn't...
We have a competition background, but the reason why ATT is so good, and they're killing it with Ioana, Jenjenczyk, with fucking Amanda Nunes, all their big athletes, Mike Brown, right?
He's been there.
He's done it.
joe rogan
Yeah, Brown's awesome.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
To me, you know, he's definitely top three in the game right now.
joe rogan
And Laborio.
brendan schaub
Laborio, too.
But Mike Brown, really, he's the one who's focused on Ioana and Amanda Nunes, and he's focused on it because he's been there.
He's done those meathead days, and he's going...
We need to focus more on this.
So when you have someone, even Team Alpha Male, they don't have a ton of injuries, really.
Granted, Cody Garbrandt's having his things, but Uriah Faber, he's been through it.
So you need these younger guys who have been through it who are going to take control.
Who are saying, listen, we can't be Vanderlei Silva, man.
This isn't a Brazilian top team.
This ain't working.
In football, same way.
Jim Harbaugh at Michigan, they don't hit.
He goes, if you don't know how to hit at this level, you're not going to make it.
They only hit on game days when it counts.
So you see this kind of trend happening with people who've been through it before.
joe rogan
That's not the way.
Cowboy hardly ever spars anymore.
He does mostly drills, mitt work.
brendan schaub
You see this kind of guy's like, man, I can't be getting beat up in training anymore.
It doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
Goddamn, especially at heavyweight.
Big guys the size of mitt your own giving each other brain damage.
brendan schaub
Bad idea.
joe rogan
Terrible.
You can only do it so many times.
And I think when you see a guy like Connor with all the different experimenting that he does, with like weird movement stuff, with that Ido Portal guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, long bike rides and shit.
joe rogan
Even the weird shit that he does, like when you see him like switching stances in the ring, switching stances like a Taekwondo guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like he's in a Taekwondo tournament.
All that weird shit, if he can do shit like that to Floyd, all that stuff that he's never seen before, sideways stance, you know, moving more like a karate fighter.
brendan schaub
He's going to come out more karate than people are expecting.
I asked Pauly, you know, I said, you know, Pauly has his issues with him.
I'm like, yeah, that's terrible.
But how was, you know, how was his, was it as awkward as I'm predicting?
Because, you know, if Conor goes in and gets starched, my time, I'm out.
Showtime, that's my time.
Have a good night.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I look like an asshole.
But he was saying, he was like, no, man, it's even more awkward than I thought.
Like, it's tough to deal with.
He said one time he had his palm up like this.
I was like, like, Lyoto Machida shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, he's definitely gonna do that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Polly's like, I have no idea who that is.
I'm like, look him up.
joe rogan
He doesn't know who Lyoto Machida is?
How dare you, Paulie?
brendan schaub
How dare you, Paulie?
joe rogan
How dare you.
brendan schaub
He knows jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
That was like my worst prediction of all time.
Welcome to the Machida era.
Probably my worst prediction ever.
brendan schaub
No, there was a Machida era.
joe rogan
No, not like that.
Like, he lost right away after that.
brendan schaub
When he murked Shogun, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Murked Rashad.
joe rogan
Well, he didn't merc Shogun.
Shogun knocked him out in the rematch.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
brendan schaub
Shogun lost him, but they had that back and forth, right?
But he fucked up Rashad.
joe rogan
He fucked up Rashad to win the title.
brendan schaub
To win the title.
joe rogan
Who beat him right after that?
And then John crushed him.
And then once John crushed him.
brendan schaub
John crushed his dreams.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then he dropped down to 85. Looked great against Munoz.
brendan schaub
There was a Leona Machida, like, when you say the air, I mean, you know, there's a run there.
But still, he changed the game.
joe rogan
He definitely changed a lot, but I thought he was going to go on a crazy run, man.
So let's see what we got there.
John Jones.
brendan schaub
Oh, he lost a rampage.
joe rogan
But again, he got fucked in that one.
Go back a little bit more.
Go back a little bit more.
So where does the Rashad fight?
Okay, so he fought Rashad, and then he fought...
That's what it is.
He fought Shogun next, but he should have lost that fight.
And he won.
brendan schaub
But still, he had lost in two years.
joe rogan
And then Shogun knocked him out in the rematch.
brendan schaub
He had lost in two years.
So remember, he beat Teo Ortiz, and that's real Teo Ortiz.
Then he murked Thiago Silva.
At the time, Thiago Silva was a straight savage.
And then he destroys Rashad.
Then he ekes by Shogun.
joe rogan
Remember when he jump and front-kicked Randy in the face?
brendan schaub
And knocked out Randy's tooth?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, then it was a little rough from there.
joe rogan
And then he fought John, beat Ryan Bader with that crazy knockout.
That was nuts.
Ryan Bader ran into that crazy straight left hand.
brendan schaub
Just rushed him.
joe rogan
That was here in LA. Then the Munoz fight, I remember that was in like London or something.
brendan schaub
Dude, I remember Munoz found, I was training with Munoz, he found out through social media is fighting Machida.
It was like, oh fuck, that was in England.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Then he got smashed by Weidman.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did.
Ray Merch, C.B. Dalloway.
joe rogan
The Luke Rockhold one was the worst.
Yole Romero was really bad, too.
brendan schaub
That was rough.
joe rogan
And then he tested positive for something, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and then I don't know exactly what he's doing now.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, you get a certain amount of knockouts against guys like Rockhold, and especially the Rockhold one was rough.
brendan schaub
Think how long he's been doing it, though.
He's been doing karate since he was fucking three months old.
He's just been doing it for a long-ass time, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's interesting, like, these guys like Vitor and him, where their technique is still there, their mind is still there, but their body just can't keep up anymore.
brendan schaub
Look at Rashad.
Look at Rashad.
To me, when I watch his fight in Mexico City, and he's fighting on the undercard against Sam Alvey, I'm like, oh my god, man.
And I love Rashad.
The guy I've been training with forever.
To see him, and I don't know if it's a matter of physical, but mentally you can tell he's just not there.
Not that he's punchy, but he just doesn't want to do anymore.
He's not pulling the trigger.
He's been knocked out before.
I was the same way.
Once I got knocked out, things change.
You go, okay, I'm not going to fight like that anymore.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
That kind of caution the wind, let's go, let's sit in the pocket and bang.
No, no, no, no, no.
I've learned from that.
And then Rashad just couldn't pull the trigger.
I think he's swaying towards being done.
joe rogan
How old is Rashad now?
brendan schaub
Shit, how old is Rashad?
joe rogan
39?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's up there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's had a great run.
joe rogan
He's definitely had a great run, but he obviously enjoys doing it, or he wouldn't be still doing it, or he needs the money.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
It's one or the other.
jamie vernon
37?
joe rogan
37?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But the other thing with Rashad is the games advance so much further than wrestler with good boxing.
You can't fuck with that anymore.
At light heavyweight, middleweight, welterweight, you go down, what?
You only have two tools?
You're screwed, man.
A guy like Yard Rodriguez, all these young kids go...
You can only wrestle and box?
Oh my god, I'm eating him a lot.
joe rogan
But he can kick.
I mean, remember he knocked out Sean Salmon with that high kick?
brendan schaub
Goddamn, that's old school.
And Sean Salmon looked like every UPS driver we've ever had.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I would think that he would get better at that.
You know, and it just never became like a big part of his game.
His game was never like full-on Muay Thai oriented.
brendan schaub
No.
It's like the Chuck Liddell thing, you know, where sprawl and brawl.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'm gonna fuck you up with my hands.
joe rogan
What's crazy is he trains with Tyrone Spong.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, Tyrone Spong is a fucking demon when it comes to his stand-up, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, he mercs this dude so bad.
joe rogan
And this was at light heavyweight, which is interesting because all along a lot of people thought he should be at 185. Dude, he won the ultimate fight at heavyweight.
unidentified
I know.
Crazy.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
He fought Brad Imes.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Giant-ass dude in the finals.
Yeah.
Rashad's just tough, man.
And he's a dude who played football, too.
Right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, high school, but then he wrestled at Michigan State.
And his roommate was Greg Maynard.
joe rogan
Crazy, man.
brendan schaub
And then the other roommate is a big agent at CA, which is hilarious.
All of them are killing it.
joe rogan
You know, you remember his knockout of Chuck Liddell?
That was probably the biggest highlight ever.
brendan schaub
Oh, ever.
And the UFC really wouldn't play it because Chuck Liddell was like the main man.
Remember for a while there they wouldn't play the Chuck or Ronda knockouts?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Now you turn that bitch on and fuck, this is just a loop.
joe rogan
Well, once WMA became the owners, they were like, listen.
brendan schaub
It's like, we don't play that game.
joe rogan
We're here to self-fights.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
I know he's your boy.
Oh!
There it is right there.
One shot.
That was a crazy high kick.
Crazy high kick.
I think they showed the Chuck Liddell knockout.
They just didn't highlight it over and over and over again.
brendan schaub
Not for a long time.
They wouldn't show Chuck or Ronda.
joe rogan
That Chuck one was so...
I remember the sound of that right-hand landing.
It just blop!
brendan schaub
It was an uppercut.
Oh, no.
Chuck was going to throw an uppercut, his famous uppercut, and then just that.
joe rogan
And Rashad stepped over with an overhand right on the...
Fucking button like a gunshot.
brendan schaub
I remember Shah just turned to the crowd like his heart.
He's like...
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
Chuck's just...
Chuck was just such a fucking executioner.
brendan schaub
Boom.
You know, Chuck, there's rumors Chuck wanted to fight again.
He's in Thailand training and shit.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
Boom!
brendan schaub
Great timing by Rashad.
joe rogan
Perfect.
brendan schaub
Boom!
joe rogan
Look at the fucking impact of that right hand.
That is crazy.
brendan schaub
My God.
joe rogan
They're talking about Chuck and Tito again in Bellator.
brendan schaub
They're talking about Chael and Tito.
joe rogan
They're talking about Chael and Tito first?
brendan schaub
Chael and Tito are talking shit to each other.
joe rogan
Didn't they just fight?
brendan schaub
They just fought.
joe rogan
Tito just got his neck reconstructed.
brendan schaub
He has a tube in his neck, but then Chael started talking shit to him.
joe rogan
No, he got fake discs.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
He got discs replaced.
Go to Tito's Instagram page.
He talked about it.
And then he said, Chael, I'm kicking your ass.
It was like so pro wrestling.
brendan schaub
Hey, Tito, Chael, I love both of you.
Ain't nobody trying to watch that shit.
joe rogan
Listen, if Bellator is paying...
brendan schaub
No one's watching that.
joe rogan
I get it.
brendan schaub
We just saw it.
Chael, you just got choked out.
joe rogan
Tito can still sell.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's still a draw.
joe rogan
If he could talk Chael into talking some shit about him and people want to see him get peed up again.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
joe rogan
There's actually a video, though.
If you play the video, Jamie, it's somewhere on his Instagram.
Oh, look at that.
It went through his neck.
Go to his whole thing and I'll show you where it is.
There it is.
That's it.
Listen, let's play some volume on this.
unidentified
All right, surgery's done.
They did three level disc replacements.
brendan schaub
So you want to fight, huh?
joe rogan
Disc replacement.
unidentified
On my cervical, which is the neck area.
All right, let me call.
But I'm good.
All right.
Dr. William Smith did an amazing job.
Valerie, thank you so much.
Bellator, thank you.
All my friends, family, thank you for your support.
Everybody reached out to me.
I appreciate the support.
I'm alive.
I'm fixed.
Now it's time to get ready because, Chell, I'm kicking your ass.
joe rogan
God damn it!
brendan schaub
No, you two!
joe rogan
But how crazy is that?
A guy coming out of neck reconstruction.
He got three discs replaced.
You know, in the UFC, if you have more than two discs replaced, they don't think they're letting you fight right now?
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
joe rogan
They were talking about Rick Story.
Rick Story has some disc replacements.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
His neck.
Yeah.
If you get a certain amount, like if you've got one in your lower back, one in your neck, they're like, ooh, son, we're not sure if we want to fuck with this.
brendan schaub
Liability.
joe rogan
Well, who knows how good the guy did the neck thing?
Who did your thing?
It's almost like, who's building your car?
brendan schaub
Well, send him to your guy then.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
UFC. Like, the one guy who we can trust before we shut down his career.
joe rogan
How many dudes are doing this neck reconstruction thing?
brendan schaub
Hey, everyone.
Especially if you're looking for a deal.
joe rogan
Look at Eddie Bravo's got his back done.
You know, Eddie's still having problems with it, though.
It's not 100%.
brendan schaub
A lot of people have problems with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I mean, the back's tricky, man.
joe rogan
But one of his students, Victor, had his done.
He's a big dude.
He's real big.
He's a heavyweight dude.
And for him, it's fine.
He was lifting weights really quickly and got back to rolling within a few months.
brendan schaub
I think it just depends, man.
But with Tito, he's had so much abuse as far as wrestling and fighting.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
It's going to...
joe rogan
He's got fusions too.
He's got all sorts of shit going on.
brendan schaub
Dude, talk about a straight up fighter.
Neck brace, tongue and chill.
Get your ass ready.
We're looking at like a year from now, bro.
joe rogan
How long does it take to recover from those surgeries?
I wonder because what Eddie was saying was that he might have pushed it too quick and re-injured it a little bit.
brendan schaub
I remember when Eddie came in here.
Didn't he come in here like the next day?
We're doing a fight companion.
He's like drinking half his ass, and we're talking about it.
He's like, I'm not gonna rush into it.
Like, I'm not doing much.
But if you're on the mats, you know, it's tough.
joe rogan
The problem is rolling is too fun.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't roll if you're injured.
You know, I think the only thing you should do ever if you're injured is drill.
And just use it as a time to drill, because you can get really good.
You can get really good by drilling.
But as soon as you're, like, if you're dealing with something that's recovering, like a surgery...
If you, like, have to explode and exert weird energy in weird ways, you never know.
Like, you don't want to get tapped.
You don't want your guard to get passed.
You don't want...
So you'll just fucking...
You're in the middle of it.
unidentified
You'll...
joe rogan
And when you do that, man, pop!
brendan schaub
Messes everything up.
joe rogan
You feel the back where you got surgery twinge again.
You're like...
brendan schaub
Game over.
Fucked all that work up.
I'll tell you what's crazy, speaking of injuries, is when I saw Paddy Hooligan in Dublin, you know, and he's an outgoing, you know, smart dude, speaks well.
We're talking, I'm like, dude, so when's the next fight?
And this whole team was just like, goddammit, Shobb.
I'm like, what?
And I didn't hear anything.
But he has a rear blood disorder.
Like, less than 1% of the world have it.
And it's really not that dangerous, but if it did, if something were to happen, it's like super dangerous.
So the UFC's like, it's too much of a risk.
We can't...
We can't clear the fight, so he's done.
joe rogan
Whoa.
So, how does the blood disorder work?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
You have to look it up, Jamie.
He has some super rare blood disorder.
Super, super rare.
You'll have to look it up.
joe rogan
So, is this concern if he needs a transfusion or something?
brendan schaub
Yeah, something like that where the UFC is just too high of a risk, so he's done.
But he was opening a gym at SBG with Connor at their gym, and then he decided to do his own up the street.
Wow.
But crazy story, man.
Crazy story.
I had no idea.
I felt bad for him, but good spirits, man.
Good spirits.
He's going to start doing podcasting.
He wants to start doing some other stuff.
joe rogan
Well, that's cool.
unidentified
You know, here it is.
joe rogan
He was born with a factor missing in his blood called Factor 13. I never disclosed it until now.
It came to the UFC's attention from a third party.
I can no longer pass the medical requirements to compete.
Only 1 in 5 million people are diagnosed, so I knew that it was rare.
Organizations wouldn't understand or take a chance at me.
As I found out now, I never explained in full to John or my team the actual risks because I didn't think there was excess risks.
So, if it's not, if he doesn't think there is an excess risk, it's a disorder that is only dangerous for me and not my opponents.
I really did see MMA as a way to have a real shot at life for myself and my family, and it turns out I was right.
Wow, I have mixed emotions.
This is sad.
brendan schaub
Can you look up the disorder?
How sad is it?
But you talk about a guy who his spirits are super up.
He was joking about it.
He's just like, what the fuck?
He has a son and his girl was there.
I felt so bad for him.
But he was like, whoa, I'm doing my thing here at SPG. I got my own gym.
Things are good.
I'm starting to get into podcasting.
He's going to be good at it too, man.
joe rogan
If you can get that good at fighting, you can get that good at anything.
You just have to think about it the right way.
brendan schaub
Here it is.
joe rogan
Here it is.
It's a rare...
Oh, clotting.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
A bleeding disorder characterized by a deficiency of clotting factor 13. Clotting factors are specialized proteins that are essential for the blood to clot properly.
Oh, it's like a hemophilia.
brendan schaub
Uncontrolled bleeding episodes.
joe rogan
Fuck all that.
Like, what if you get Marvin Eastman and the head starts pouring blood and they can't stop it?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like, there's something about foreheads.
Like, foreheads just bleed a lot.
brendan schaub
Especially with the elbows.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Like, think about how much more foreheads bleed than, like, a knee.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Elbows, like, fucking...
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
When you get kneed, it's always in the face.
Your shit's all fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But with Patty, that's a bummer, man.
One in five million.
joe rogan
Crazy.
What are the odds?
brendan schaub
I know, man.
Super heartbreaking.
joe rogan
Do you know the odds on Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor are only four to one?
brendan schaub
5 to 1, right?
joe rogan
I saw it plus 450. Is it 400?
Maybe it's changed.
Maybe it's changed.
brendan schaub
I just looked at an article.
I think I had something to do with those odds swing.
I've been on this hound.
This Connor Dickride hound changing the game.
Complete Connor Dick Diver.
Just changing the odds.
joe rogan
You really think he's got a chance?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I do.
unidentified
He's bigger.
brendan schaub
I really do.
joe rogan
He's a lot bigger, man.
I'll tell you that.
brendan schaub
He's like a Mack truck.
He's awkward.
Floyd, two years off.
I'm a little curious why he's doing it.
joe rogan
Joe Smith Jr., Bernard Hopkins.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Plus 325. Holy balls!
Whoa!
It's down to three.
brendan schaub
Take a bow.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Crazy!
joe rogan
Four Mayweather's at minus 450. You want to hear something hilarious?
brendan schaub
That's crazy.
Those odds are smaller than when he fought Canelo.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Those odds are changing because of the fucking video.
jamie vernon
Well, that and just a matter of the amount of people were betting on Conor.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know how bets work, dude.
jamie vernon
People that are listening, they might not.
unidentified
You know what?
brendan schaub
I think Floyd likes it.
joe rogan
Do you think people know what the odds are?
That's what the odds are.
brendan schaub
How would I explain odds?
People are like, what the fuck?
unidentified
Really?
jamie vernon
You don't even understand how you win a hundred bucks, most people.
I have to explain it every time we go to the UFC to set someone.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I bet when the odds first came out, I fucked up.
I thought I got 26-1.
I got it 15-1.
Conor to win by knockout.
joe rogan
It's always so weird when you see the numbers, like, plus 450. Like, how?
What?
brendan schaub
Who comes out?
joe rogan
Especially when they open with it.
If they open with an odd, that's when it gets really crazy.
How do they do that?
It's like in the expert opinion.
brendan schaub
They do it on purpose because they want betting.
So they do it on purpose to get people to go, here's a show.
Floyd loves this because Floyd always bets on himself and a shitload of money.
So Floyd's like, yes, keep it going.
Did you see footage came out that, not footage, but news leaked, and I think it's all honeydicking, that Zab Judah knocked out Floyd Mayweather in training and Floyd shut down the gym.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Look that shit up, Jamie.
Pull that shit up, Jamie.
I'm telling you, it's Ab Judah yesterday.
They said knock them out.
I think it's all smoke and mirrors.
I think Floyd's just trying to sell this to the max.
joe rogan
Well, that would be smart on Floyd's part.
brendan schaub
He's brilliant.
joe rogan
How close is he with Zab Judah that they would organize that?
brendan schaub
I mean, Zab Judah's like, I'll take that shine.
When's the last time you mentioned the name Zab Judah?
joe rogan
Very good point.
Word from inside the money team, Zab Judah knocked out Floyd Mayweather in sparring during a wild exchange where both boxers began to brawl.
Apparently Floyd kicked everyone out of the gym afterwards, more to come.
Zab was mimicking Connor and just came right after him.
Whoa.
brendan schaub
Says Mario Vegas Post.
joe rogan
Mario Vegas Post.
brendan schaub
Can we trust Mario?
joe rogan
Mario, talk to me.
brendan schaub
What do you know?
joe rogan
I'm looking at him.
brendan schaub
That glamour shot headshot bothers the fuck out of me.
joe rogan
Doesn't bother me at all.
He looks like a very reasonable American.
brendan schaub
He has 14 tweets, 100 followers.
joe rogan
I'm sure he votes conservative.
You know what?
He's probably a pretty sensible guy that you can have a conversation with.
brendan schaub
I think he's a troll.
joe rogan
I wouldn't mind having a beer with him.
brendan schaub
See, I don't believe that.
I think there'd be more smoke.
I think literally Floyd's just playing this full heel.
joe rogan
It might be.
brendan schaub
I got knocked out.
Look, Conor definitely a week before.
joe rogan
Or Zab Judah and him might have gone to war because he does go to war in gyms.
He does.
I mean, you've seen him talk shit and go to war with people in sparring sessions.
brendan schaub
And Zab Judah ain't young either.
joe rogan
Zab Judah, it's true.
But Zab Judah can crack.
We know that.
It's a fact.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he cracked Floyd a few times when they fought, if you remember that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he can crack.
Yeah.
Floyd Mayweather and Zab Judah unleash chaos in Las Vegas.
jamie vernon
This is from April.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Wow.
joe rogan
Looks back at the tempered battle between Mayweather and the current sparring partner, Zab Judah.
Yeah, they had a great war, man.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal fight.
joe rogan
And if Zab Judah...
I mean, look, Zab Judah's lightning fast.
If he hasn't lost a step, and they actually did get into a wild exchange, and Floyd got crazy, it is entirely possible...
brendan schaub
Did you say he hasn't lost a step?
I mean...
joe rogan
Zab Judah?
brendan schaub
I guarantee he has.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
brendan schaub
Probably a little bit.
joe rogan
But I mean, as far as his speed and power, I bet it's still there.
I bet his timing, what I'm trying to say, you're right.
brendan schaub
His reaction time.
joe rogan
Losing a step is probably not the best way to describe it, but he's still got his skills, he's still got some serious power.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
He knows how to drop bombs.
And if he drops a bomb on Floyd, if they really did have some crazy exchange, it's 100% possible that you could imagine a guy like Zav Judah at least knocking down Floyd.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you this, if he did get knocked out a week before the fight, and you're fighting coming next Saturday, we're going sizzler.
I might just fucking...
joe rogan
No bueno.
brendan schaub
I'm the new president of Showtime, everybody.
jamie vernon
The same story kind of happened before the Pacquiao Mayweather fight.
joe rogan
Well, maybe it happened.
It said floored him.
Zabjuda denies flooring Mayweather during sparring.
brendan schaub
Maybe Zabjuda whoops his ass in there.
joe rogan
He's probably so comfortable with being there with Floyd.
He's boxed Floyd professionally as a fighter and as his training partner.
You get each other's patterns.
You understand each other's patterns.
And who knows, also, you know, like, who knows how seriously Floyd's taking this?
I mean, he needs the money for sure.
brendan schaub
That's the other thing, is like, rumors coming out, like, again, these are all rumors.
Have you seen the condition?
unidentified
I love rumors.
brendan schaub
Me too, I love the drama.
joe rogan
I get so excited.
brendan schaub
Me too, I'm like, yes!
Yes, what else happened?
joe rogan
Keep it coming!
brendan schaub
Come on!
Have you seen the picture of Floyd at 40?
joe rogan
He looks good.
brendan schaub
Good?
That motherfucker looks like he's on that Brock Lesnar diet.
joe rogan
He looks shredded.
Yeah, he looks great.
Under 2.5.
Wow.
Interesting.
That's the only way McGregor's going to win, I think.
brendan schaub
If it's under the 2.5?
joe rogan
No, not under 2.5, but by stoppage.
Yeah, me too.
I can't imagine him outboxing.
brendan schaub
No, that ain't happening.
You're living in a wrong fucking planet if you think he's gonna help boxing for 12 rounds.
joe rogan
Unless he just mauls him.
Unless he figures out a way to maul him like he's doing there.
Like he's doing there with holding the back of the head and throwing punches.
brendan schaub
But that's after he's worn Pauly out.
I think you're gonna see Connor using his footwork still the distance, trying to still do what got him to the dance.
He might.
unidentified
What if he drops one on Floyd and Floyd goes stiff?
joe rogan
Face plants.
brendan schaub
I would love that.
I think he's going to land one on Floyd.
So I think Connor wins the spectacle, but probably loses in the decision.
But if there is a stoppage, it's Connor knocking them out.
joe rogan
Well, you know, we were talking today about them going to eight-ounce gloves and how significant that is.
brendan schaub
Official commission just granted it today.
joe rogan
First of all, it shows you can just pull those commissioners aside and go, what?
What's these rules?
brendan schaub
What do you mean drug testing?
unidentified
Why are we talking about it?
What's these rules?
joe rogan
Let's have some fun here, boys.
Let's have some fun.
I wonder if WME came along, like, when they bought the UFC, they'd be like, uh, what's with the USADA guy?
brendan schaub
What's up with the golden snitch?
joe rogan
Do we need him?
brendan schaub
We got him in another six months.
joe rogan
Can't we?
Listen, let's just direct that guy towards weight cutting.
brendan schaub
Can you just have them, like, focus on the guys in the undercards?
joe rogan
Can we do that?
Slowly get out of this, you son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
For reals.
joe rogan
Well, back it up.
Back it up.
brendan schaub
100%.
Back it up!
unidentified
100%.
100%.
brendan schaub
Andre Berto said when he fought Floyd, he's never been tested more in his life.
He was like four times a week there to knock on my door.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Floyd.
Floyd's got people dressed up like agents.
brendan schaub
That's what he said.
He goes, are you testing Floyd like this?
They go, that's none of your concern.
joe rogan
Oh, it is though.
brendan schaub
He goes, it's the promoter's obligation.
He goes, the promoter's Floyd Mayweather.
He goes, you'll figure it out.
He just kept getting tested nonstop.
joe rogan
Yeah, he wants more of your blood.
He wants it to make you tired.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'll tell you what, though.
I don't know what the drug testing is like on this bad boy, but...
joe rogan
Well, the Canelo-Alvarez fight, it was interesting, because he made Canelo get down to 150. You know, they fought at 150, and Canelo just makes people come to him.
brendan schaub
Like, you have to play by his rules.
joe rogan
He's not doing that in this fight, though.
brendan schaub
That's what's so scary.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's why I tip my hat to Floyd, because he went, I'll fight at 154. That's perfect for Conor.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I would do eight-ounce gloves.
unidentified
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
For reals?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we'll do that.
Oh, I'll take you on short notice, too.
This motherfucker's crazy!
joe rogan
I just think he thinks he's so good.
He might just not understand.
First of all, Connor is, whether or not you're looking at his success inside the octagon, which has been pretty spectacular, but it's the way he's doing things.
He's got this special fucking air about him and this psychotic belief in himself.
It's not a fake belief.
No.
He's not trying to con anybody.
He's trying to manifest some sort of miraculous existence.
He's trying to be the guy who literally goes in there and drops and smashes Floyd Mayweather as a UFC fighter and becomes, with that, the biggest athlete on the planet Earth ever.
brendan schaub
Maybe ever.
joe rogan
If he flatlines Floyd Mayweather, if Floyd Mayweather steps in, and Conor fucking karate stances him, and blasts him with a straight left hand, and we see Floyd stiffen up and faceplant.
brendan schaub
North Korea nukes.
joe rogan
We're gonna turn the ocean green.
brendan schaub
Shit.
joe rogan
We're gonna manufacture all of the color, that green color that you put in drinks on Save Patrick's Day.
We're pouring that shit in the ocean.
We're making the ocean Just all green.
brendan schaub
Just huge statues of Connor.
joe rogan
You're gonna have people that are faking Irish accents.
It's sort of like that Rachel Dolezal chick pretending to be black.
benjamin jaffe
There's gonna be people that are changing but put an O on the beginning.
brendan schaub
With shitty tiger tattoos on their chest.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're gonna change themselves and become Irish.
They're gonna be trans.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
That's what the world's gonna come to.
joe rogan
What is that?
When did that happen?
jamie vernon
Chicago on St. Patrick's Day.
joe rogan
They do that?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
Are there fishing?
brendan schaub
Holy shit!
joe rogan
They're chilling everything!
They really do that?
jamie vernon
They do it every year.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
We're so gross.
People are so gross.
For St. Patrick's Day, let's have some fun and get fucking hammered and make the ocean green.
unidentified
Woo!
brendan schaub
The fish are like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
I can't believe they really do this.
brendan schaub
It's awesome though.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
It's like a comic book.
joe rogan
It's only in Chicago.
I'm amazed that Boston doesn't take this on.
brendan schaub
They're like, what?
joe rogan
What?
You're fucking telling me?
They do it in fucking Chicago?
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
I feel like it's a bad idea.
joe rogan
It can be.
Well, it's probably some food-based stuff.
brendan schaub
Meet the family that dives the Chicago River green.
joe rogan
Wow.
The Hulk family.
How weird.
brendan schaub
Just pure toxic.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder how bad it is.
I wonder if there's some environmentalists that are protesting.
brendan schaub
100%.
That can't be great for anything in there.
That's just dye.
It's natural.
Not really.
joe rogan
Why don't you Google environmentalist protest green dye in Chicago River?
Let's see if there's some environmentalists that think it's a fucking terrible idea.
brendan schaub
Nearly 60 pounds of dye.
joe rogan
That's it?
brendan schaub
Top secret formula.
Also known as, we call it, leprechaun dust.
Oh, fuck you.
joe rogan
How about you tell us what the fuck the top secret formula is before you jump in the river?
brendan schaub
And take that sweater off right now with your tits.
joe rogan
Whoa, who's got tits?
brendan schaub
The dad on the right.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Set of sweet old old man tits.
Look at him.
It's like a mock turtleneck.
joe rogan
That looks like the kind of guy who kills a burger with his bare hands, though.
brendan schaub
He looks like the kind of guy that kills millions of fish by dumping green dye in the goddamn river.
Look at those fucks.
joe rogan
Motherfuckers drowning mermaids.
They get their gills all clogged up.
brendan schaub
Look at those guys.
God damn it.
Yeah, you're right, though, man.
If Conor were to pull it off, I don't...
joe rogan
He's the biggest athlete of all time.
brendan schaub
Of all time.
joe rogan
He's gonna be worldwide in the craziest way possible.
brendan schaub
You're gonna see a Nike shoe like a drawing, but with this on it.
joe rogan
If he actually can land that shit, there's the thing, nobody's gonna ever box Floyd like that from a karate stance.
brendan schaub
Never.
He's never seen it before.
joe rogan
And he's been doing a lot of that taekwondo footwork thing where he switches back and forth, switches stances.
brendan schaub
A ton.
joe rogan
If he can keep that kind of distance, it's gonna be very hard for Floyd to hit him, too.
It's a totally different feel.
brendan schaub
Different feel.
The only thing, I think, worst case scenario, obviously worst case if you get starched in like 10 seconds, that's not going to happen.
But worst case would be with 8-ounce gloves, if Floyd starts landing and beating him up, and he gets stopped in like 7th or 8th or can't answer the bell because he's taking so much punishment, or in 8 rounds he gets really tired from moving so much, then it could be a shit show for us.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different expenditure of energy for sure.
brendan schaub
Different animal.
joe rogan
Switching legs like that and switching stances.
brendan schaub
But listen, he's doing it in training.
You don't get to Conor's level without realizing what you're signing up for.
To me, if Conor were to gas in this fight, then everything we believe in Conor is fake, which I don't think is going to happen.
joe rogan
Well, the only other explanation would be he's not quite efficient enough yet to go 12 rounds of the world champion, if he really started gas.
You're talking about something that he has a part of his training.
But it's also kicking, takedown defense, jiu-jitsu, elbows, knees.
brendan schaub
Some say it's more difficult.
joe rogan
Yes, definitely cardio-wise.
brendan schaub
A lot of people say it's more difficult.
Like in boxing, get your rest.
Like in boxing, which is why I think Conor's going to win a majority of those early rounds.
Floyd, four, five, six rounds before he's really even starts sweating.
He downloads your patterns and goes to work.
Andre Berto said that.
He comes out and he'll force you to come to him and he's looking around.
He's literally downloading everything, but it takes him a while to get going before he gets it and then starts going to work.
With Connor, I think in those rounds he can land something big there, man.
If he does.
joe rogan
See, the exciting thing is if he does.
That's the exciting thing.
brendan schaub
That's what's going to make it the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
joe rogan
Those white power people are going to go crazy.
jamie vernon
That Twitter account is a fake account, apparently.
brendan schaub
I fucking knew it.
jamie vernon
It's not a real newspaper, and some people have found out that the picture is even like a small business owner from somewhere else.
joe rogan
Which, the Zab Judah one?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
The troll guy.
jamie vernon
The troll account.
brendan schaub
I thought so.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So him knocking him out is fake?
jamie vernon
That's the only place it's coming from.
brendan schaub
I told you.
Hey Floyd, do better at trolling people.
joe rogan
That guy's a fake guy.
He looks like the average American.
brendan schaub
He had a glamour shot as his avatar.
joe rogan
Or like Iowa.
You went to Iowa.
You went to a family restaurant.
unidentified
Hi.
joe rogan
Welcome.
jamie vernon
I just Googled Las Vegas Post and nothing comes up.
joe rogan
Oh, that son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
God damn it, Floyd.
You gotta do better at selling us, man.
joe rogan
Well, it might not even be him.
It might just be somebody just going for clicks, you know, having some fun.
A lot of people make up stories.
brendan schaub
That's true.
Floyd hasn't come out and said anything.
But, you know, like, my mom will be like, why have you gotten knocked out buying it?
It works.
joe rogan
It does work.
brendan schaub
It works.
joe rogan
Well, especially after looking at that video.
I mean, that's what ramps it up.
Looking at the video of Connor Landon on Paula.
Listen, Dana White.
Put some more video out.
That's all I'm saying.
Give us a little taste.
brendan schaub
Give us a little taste.
From what I heard...
From what I heard, they thought that footage was going to make it in all access, and Dana was like, yeah, put in all access of Connor doing what he did to Paul, and they didn't put it in there, so Dana was like, release the hounds, and then release it on his end.
joe rogan
Oh, so Showtime didn't put it in there.
brendan schaub
No, it came from Dana.
It did not come from Showtime.
joe rogan
Okay, why would Showtime not want to put it in there?
So they denied putting it in there?
They didn't want to put it in there?
brendan schaub
I don't think they denied it ever happened.
They're just like, we're not putting it in all access.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't you put that in all access?
That seems ridiculous.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
Are you trying to sell a fight or nay?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and then Dana was like, oh, you're not going to do it?
Release the Hounds, everybody.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
And that's when it came from his account.
joe rogan
Why the fuck would they not play that clip?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I guess they love Paulie.
brendan schaub
Well, he's an analyst for them, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but still, it is what it is.
brendan schaub
Yeah, if anything, listen, man, it's sparring.
We're talking about practice.
It is what it is.
joe rogan
Even though it shows a clear loss, in those exchanges, there was a clear loser and a clear winner.
It doesn't mean the entire sparring session was, and we won't know that until after the fight.
brendan schaub
And most knowledgeable fighting fans know that.
Like, oh, that's a part of it, but shit, Conor can actually hit.
Like, shit, he looks pretty good.
He looks real good.
And even if you're a boxing fan, you're like, holy shit, that's Paulie Malignaggi.
He just got rocked.
Shit, maybe I will buy the fight.
It's going to be the biggest no matter what.
joe rogan
I'm going to buy it.
I'm going to buy it from fucking D.C. I'm going to be in Washington, D.C. Yeah, you're working that night, right?
I'm working that night.
brendan schaub
So if you hear in the crowd, oh my god!
joe rogan
Yeah, they asked me to do something for Showtime.
But I don't even know what I would do.
What would I be doing?
I'd be offering my opinions.
brendan schaub
Bro, I fly out next Monday.
I'm on the whole coverage team with Showtime Tuesday through Saturday.
I don't know what I'm doing on Saturday yet.
joe rogan
Honestly, dude, I really feel like if they were smart, like this is, this kind of shit, like the kind of shit that we do, when you and I just sit down and talk, this is really what they need.
You get a bunch of goofy people sitting around with ties on in some circle, and everyone's talking over everybody.
brendan schaub
And there's a production meeting, and you say this, and you say this, I agree.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's Mauro, and then there's fucking two or three boxers, and everyone's...
brendan schaub
Al Bernstein.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they're all talking over each other.
It's, uh...
It's not, in my opinion, it's not the most entertaining way to listen to people break down shit.
And this is a fight where you really want to consider all the different possibilities.
Like, Max Kellerman is always saying, like, Floyd has the advantage.
If they're fighting on the moon, Floyd has the advantage.
Bare knuckle, Floyd has the advantage.
Like, okay.
Are you totally sure?
Are you totally sure?
brendan schaub
It's the Skip Bayless method where it's going to make headlines.
He doesn't believe that.
joe rogan
Max believes that.
brendan schaub
I don't think Max believes that.
I think he's so, so old school boxing, he has to say that.
joe rogan
But he loves MMA too, man.
I've had long conversations with Coleman.
brendan schaub
Kind of, but I think with Floyd, he's very smart.
He's my favorite analyst.
I love Max Coleman.
Yeah, he's very good.
I'm your favorite.
Well, I'm saying boxing.
Come on, brother.
When it comes to boxing, when he goes, Conor's not going to hit him, and I was like, no disrespect, I bet you $100,000.
Open a joint account, send it to his team, like, this is how serious I am.
joe rogan
He's not going to land a glove.
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
Well, that's silly.
unidentified
Come on, Max.
brendan schaub
Come on, Max.
joe rogan
Man, it could happen that Floyd just storms out and fucking one-punch KOs him.
brendan schaub
My thing with Showtime, I had this chat with Espinoza about it, and I said, I don't know what, you know, I know I'm going to be part of it, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
I said, but what you have going on is you have your traditional boxing commentators.
Which is great, and that's usually what you do.
This is not your typical fight.
You cannot have a biased panel who don't know anything about Conor McGregor.
Yeah, they looked his fights up or whatever, or they just mimic or say what they've heard previously, but they really don't know what Conor's doing.
You have to have someone, whether it's me or not, but I think it's going to be me, you have to have someone telling you what Conor's doing, what he needs to do to win the fight.
You can't have just a pro-biased boxing commentating team.
Because what's going to make this the biggest pay-per-view of all time is the UFC fans.
joe rogan
Of course.
brendan schaub
We're the ones that are going to buy this bitch.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The old boxing heads, look at Triple G, that's your best boxer.
200,000 pay-per-view buys, probably?
300,000?
unidentified
That's your best.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Andre Ward is right up there with him, and Andre Ward gets way more.
brendan schaub
No, he doesn't.
They don't do very well.
Look up Andre Ward vs.
Kovalev 2. What was the pay-per-view?
Best fight in boxing.
275,000?
joe rogan
That's it, but still 100 more than Triple G. Still!
Still for a rematch of a huge fight, too.
brendan schaub
And I'm saying, so Dana White, the UFC, Conor McGregor, that fan base, the UFC fan base, is like nothing else, man.
joe rogan
Well, that's 100% true.
brendan schaub
So you can't have just a bias box in Conor McGregor.
joe rogan
Kovalev does just over $160,000.
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
I'll put a picture of me lifting weights in the back.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
165,000 buys.
Wow.
So that's basically the same as Triple G. In the ward, Kovalev 2 does around 125,000 pay-per-view buys.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
Which one's right?
When's July?
Oh.
The first one versus the second one?
No.
brendan schaub
The second one does $125,000.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a paper loop flop.
So the most it did, it said it pulls in $165,000.
That was the final thing.
brendan schaub
Which is terrible.
joe rogan
The top one.
brendan schaub
Which is awful.
For that magnitude of that fight.
joe rogan
No, one is June 30th and it said $125,000.
And the other one is June 27th and it said $165,000.
brendan schaub
The first one did $160,000.
The second did $125,000.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Oh, no.
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That's terrible.
That's a failure.
You're losing money when you do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And you paid Andre Ward six and a half million dollars.
joe rogan
Did he get that much?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Whoa.
And you're talking about one of the best fights of all, especially the years.
unidentified
Amazing.
brendan schaub
That fight was amazing.
joe rogan
What was more troubling not only the pay-per-view buys down, but attendance numbers and gate revenue at Mandalay Bay Event Center in Las Vegas was not even close to matching the first bout, which has held at T-Mobile Arena.
Tickets sold 6,000 tickets.
Whoa, that's crazy.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
So if you're going to make this the biggest paper of all time, you've got to bank on the mixed martial arts crowd buying this thing.
So if you want them to buy it, they're going to buy it for Conor anyways, but you've got to have a voice in there that's at least going to relate to the people.
joe rogan
Yeah, and here's another aspect.
The Andre Berto fight, which was the retirement fight for Floyd.
He only got like 300,000 pay-per-view buys.
unidentified
Horrible.
brendan schaub
Horrible.
joe rogan
When you're considering that he got 4 million for the Manny Pacquiao fight, right?
Wasn't something crazy like that?
brendan schaub
Yeah, 4.4 million.
joe rogan
Which is the biggest of all time.
So he goes from the biggest of all time to a fight where 300,000 people buy it, which is like...
Really mediocre.
brendan schaub
Horrible.
joe rogan
The only people are buying Floyd Mayweather fights are people that want to see Floyd Mayweather get fucked up.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when he doesn't get fucked up, they go, damn.
brendan schaub
They get upset.
See, even Floyd apologized for the Pacquiao fight.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brendan schaub
He was like, yeah, my bad.
Like, that sucked.
Like, that was not fun, man.
joe rogan
Well, it was crazy because Pacquiao was injured.
You know, Pacquiao fought that fight with a fucked up shoulder.
brendan schaub
I like how Pacquiao's hating on this fight.
I won't even watch it.
Hey, Pacquiao, I guarantee your ass it's more entertaining than your fight with Floyd.
I can guarantee you that.
joe rogan
He's just still salty.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because he just lost to fucking homeboy, Horn, in Australia, and he has to rematch him.
joe rogan
Lost to a schoolteacher.
brendan schaub
Straight up!
joe rogan
Straight up.
brendan schaub
He lost to Rich Franklin in boxing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know if that was the correct decision, because I didn't try to score that for him.
brendan schaub
I see both ways.
I watched it twice.
I can see both ways.
But when I was watching it with my girl, I looked at her and went, God, I feel like Horn might have pulled that off.
She's like, really?
I'm like, yeah, you can't listen to the commentators.
They're so biased against Horn.
I feel like he might have did enough.
Especially early on.
I'm like, I'm kind of bringing it to him.
joe rogan
How many times did he get dropped?
Once or twice?
brendan schaub
Horn in the, I think it was the 10th round, they almost stopped it.
It was the 8th, 9th, or 10th.
One of those rounds, they were like, hey, if you don't show some improvement here, we're going to stop the fight.
So that was a rough round.
But still, the culmination of all the rounds, I thought Horn pulled it off.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
There's argument for either one.
Still, Pacquiao, you lost a horn.
You're going to hate on Mayweather and fucking Conor.
Come on, man.
You're going to watch it.
joe rogan
He's still salty because also he's got class action lawsuits against him because he fought with a fucked up shoulder and a lot of people bet on him.
brendan schaub
He fucked us.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a weird situation.
If you're a fan and you know that the guy came into the fight compromised, get that paycheck.
brendan schaub
But at the same time, a lot of fighters fight with injuries, right?
joe rogan
That's a big one, though.
I mean, he's a puncher.
And his shoulder's fucked.
Like, he can't throw haymakers.
brendan schaub
So what do you do?
joe rogan
I guess they...
brendan schaub
Do you schedule?
joe rogan
I wonder what they did.
They give him a cortisone shot?
What do they do?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
But if you're Manny Pacquiao, what do you do?
Just like, hey, I'm injured.
We're gonna have to reschedule this later.
joe rogan
Well, I think he figured, well, I'm gonna fuck it up.
I'm gonna get surgery anyway.
I'll just fuck it up further.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Go in there and sling bombs, and hopefully I'll catch him.
brendan schaub
And did nothing.
Horrible fight.
joe rogan
Well, it's just, I think he was really compromised in his movement, you know?
brendan schaub
I still don't think he beats him, but...
joe rogan
No, I don't think so either.
I think his style in particular, he's much shorter and smaller than Conor.
He's very fast, but, you know, he's also been knocked out by Manuel Marquez.
When Juan Manuel Marquez knocked him out with that one-punch, fucking devastating, ba-blam, KO. The earth, like, literally stood still for a second when that happened.
Dude, I mean, that was as clean a one-punch knockout as you're ever going to see.
brendan schaub
Marquez is one of my favorites.
Yeah, it was a horrible knockout.
joe rogan
Perhaps Marquez was on the supplements of his home country.
brendan schaub
I think all of them were.
I think both of them.
I think there's Filipino steroids in that bitch.
I think there's Mexican steroids.
joe rogan
That was always the argument about Manny, is that Manny had gone up so many different weight classes and kept his power.
And people were like, come on, son.
I was like, get the fuck out of here.
brendan schaub
It's part of the game.
I don't hate on those guys.
I just assume he's doing it.
joe rogan
I don't hate on them either.
I mean, look, the deal is that you pass the tests.
brendan schaub
Even if they're not testing it, I don't give a fuck.
You're fighting Marquez, who's clearly on this Tijuana tamale fucking protein powder.
joe rogan
Tijuana testosterone, son.
brendan schaub
The Tijuana test, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
brendan schaub
If you got on that Filipino...
joe rogan
What's crazy is that dude, Juan Manuel Marquez, had the same trainer that used to be a trainer for Manny.
brendan schaub
What's his name?
Angel?
joe rogan
I think it's Alex.
brendan schaub
Something like that.
joe rogan
Really smart physical conditioning trainer.
He had Manny doing a bunch of really interesting stuff.
He's very good.
brendan schaub
Very good, but he got picked up before.
He got busted before for, like, injecting the Bane stuff.
He got in trouble before.
joe rogan
Was it the same guy that got in trouble?
brendan schaub
I feel like that's his thing, right?
Like, that's what he was known for.
I know he's supposed to be a really good trainer regardless.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I mean, you've got to think.
When you've got a guy like Floyd or Juan Manuel Marquez or anybody, or Manny...
You got like a championship-caliber athlete.
You know, you got like...
brendan schaub
You got a Ferrari.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you got to make sure that tires are good, suspension's tight, and, like, you're a physical conditioning trainer.
You can't fuck the guy up too bad by the time he gets to his boxing skill work.
You don't want him to be that exhausted.
brendan schaub
No, but also, if we're racing cars, and you know a homeboy over here put a V12 in his.
He can't be running with a V10. No.
We got to match V12s.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got to match that V12s.
brendan schaub
By V12s, I mean, let's get that Filipino hot sauce.
Yeah.
Like, that's the game, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, when Manny was in his prime, too.
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
Remember him?
Jacked.
Jacked, little dude.
And remember, he was at strip clubs, wiling out, very John Jones-ish.
And then his wife was like, this shit has to stop.
And then he got flatlined, and he's like, Jesus, let's do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he found Jesus.
brendan schaub
He started dressing all weird, running for government and shit.
joe rogan
Changed his life.
Changed his life.
brendan schaub
I don't know if that's the best thing for fighters, man.
joe rogan
Oh, who knows?
The problem is, especially now with testing, you know, they show up at your house and knock on your door, you've got to be clean.
Unless you've got a rubber dick and a really good friend, give you some blood.
brendan schaub
Even then you're in trouble, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to have a twin and have that twin live a steady, healthy diet and just don't tell anybody about them.
brendan schaub
Just leave him in the basement.
joe rogan
Look at him there against Marco Santonio Barrera.
brendan schaub
Dude, I got pissed so bad.
Can I pee real quick?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, he looked super jacked there.
brendan schaub
There's ones where he looked jacked.
joe rogan
Damn, jacked there, too.
brendan schaub
Bring up Floyd right now.
joe rogan
That's the Floyd fight.
Yeah.
When he first started out, I think he started out as a flyweight.
I'm not sure though.
I'd have to look at his career record.
Pull up Manny Pacquiao's career record.
I'm pretty sure he went through eight different weight classes, which is crazy.
Really stop and think about that.
I don't think very many people have done it.
So, this is boring for a podcast.
We're just going over stats of Manny Pacquiao.
Who the fuck knows what's gonna happen, man?
What's interesting is that it's actually gonna happen.
I'm just a big fan of freak shows.
And I don't mean that disrespectfully, like that it's not a real contest.
Obviously it is from a betting perspective, and obviously it is because Conor is a real combat sports world champion, but it's a freak show in that.
We don't know.
It's not like if Conor fought Rafael dos Anjos at 170. It's a fight.
Like, ooh, this is going to be interesting.
I wonder how this is going to play out.
I wonder if it's, you know, they were supposed to fight at 155. I wonder if Dos Anjos can figure, you know, if that kind of thing happens, that's an interesting fight.
That's interesting to think about.
You have all these variables.
You've seen their fights.
I've never seen Conor Box.
You see, like, little tiny clips.
That's all you ever see.
jamie vernon
When's the last time there was a fight like this where it was made by the people?
joe rogan
I don't think ever.
jamie vernon
UFC? At all, ever?
joe rogan
Well, there was James Toney vs.
Randy Couture, but James was well past his prime and really didn't train for it at all.
He didn't know...
I mean, there was...
It's a video of James Toney preparing for the Randy Couture fight, and he was way out of shape, and he was just kind of like hitting pads, and the guy would shoot the worst double leg takedown on him in the history of the known universe, and James would kind of sprawl, and he'd be like, yeah, I'm working on my grappling, you know, working on my boxing, working on my boxing.
brendan schaub
He's always had discipline issues.
They said he barely trained for the fight.
But that's the boxing experts like, I mean, it's like James Toney coming to your world.
joe rogan
Well, no, it's not.
brendan schaub
It's fucking not.
He came in out of shape, didn't respect the game, just kind of was doing it for the paycheck.
joe rogan
It's like if Anthony Joshua gets, you know, if he's got an actual black belt in jiu-jitsu we don't know about, and then decides to fight MMA. But he's already Anthony Joshua.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's really what it's like.
brendan schaub
That's what it's like.
joe rogan
It's like, how's he going to deal with kicks?
How's he going to deal with that?
That's where it's like.
brendan schaub
Yes, there's some X-Factors like, I don't know, but I know he does these two things very damn well.
joe rogan
And he's super good at knocking people dead.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's one of the things that guy does.
That's a real threat.
He's at Connors in his prime.
He's 28 years old.
It's a real threat.
And he believes he's going to do it.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, the one thing about Kahn is he 100% believes he's going to win this fight.
Which is, when you got a guy like that and he has momentum on his side and you got the fucking nation of Ireland behind you, God, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's some Game of Thrones shit.
brendan schaub
Special shit.
joe rogan
And also, Floyd legitimately is almost 41. Like, I think he might be 41 at the fight.
Like, I think, like, his birthday happens between...
Like, what's his birthday?
Like, he might be 41 now.
I think he's getting up there.
He turned 41. That picture released on Instagram, though, I was like, he does not look 41. Yeah, he's great.
February.
February.
Okay, so he's real close.
He's close, man.
Six months away, whatever it is.
So when he gets to be whatever the age is when the wheels fall off.
brendan schaub
Is it this fight?
joe rogan
Who knows?
brendan schaub
Who knows?
That's the thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, who knows what happens if he gets dinged.
brendan schaub
I think he will be slower.
Because if it's Floyd in his heyday, yeah, I kind of didn't stand a chance.
But Floyd, not slower?
Man.
joe rogan
Well, you remember Maidana.
Maidana came in fucking winging bombs at Floyd.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the first fight, Floyd kind of, I think maybe either underestimated him or didn't understand the style that he was going to present.
And he got clipped.
He got clipped with one punch at the end of one of the rounds where his legs wobbled.
unidentified
And I was like, whoa...
brendan schaub
And then, remember, Floyd did the rematch and kind of picked him apart.
joe rogan
Fucked him up.
Fucked him up.
brendan schaub
Once he downloaded it, but...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
I just think he underestimated, didn't take him serious.
joe rogan
It's possible, or it's possible Maidana fought really well in the first fight and didn't fight so well in the second fight for various reasons.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but the only thing with that is Conor's so much different than Maidana.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's way more skillful.
And he's also, he's very capable of doing weird shit.
brendan schaub
At a distance.
joe rogan
His ability to move in and out is very crisp.
You have to respect it.
Like what he did to Jose Aldo.
Slid back and dropped that left hand in.
brendan schaub
Silly.
joe rogan
That's not something a lot of people are capable of doing under fire.
brendan schaub
No.
Especially the stakes and your margin of error in mixed martial arts is so much smaller than boxing.
joe rogan
It's just...
brendan schaub
You know, it's his timing that makes him special.
And his timing will be better than Floyd's.
Floyd's going to be a little slower.
I just think Conor's timing with the speed and power.
That's why I give him a shot.
joe rogan
If Floyd sleeps on him at all, and Conor comes in and does something very unusual and catches Floyd with a big punch early, it could be chaos.
brendan schaub
Especially with 8-ounce gloves?
How about Floyd?
You're crazy, man.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
MMA fighters fight with 4-ounce gloves.
So, like, why has boxing decided that 8 ounces are what's safe for everybody 135 pounds and up?
10 ounces.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
8 ounces what's safe for anybody 135 pounds and down.
So that's, like, only a few weight classes.
brendan schaub
It's not shit, but also, those boxing gloves, man, 10 ounces, when you got the wrap on, I mean, you have clubs on your hands, man.
Literally clubs.
It's just protecting you from not breaking them.
unidentified
That's 10 ounces.
brendan schaub
That's 10 ounces.
8 ounces with the wrap...
Yeah.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
It makes this so interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, it becomes like an MMA fight more.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
It's going to be real weird.
It's going to be real weird until we see what happens.
We might see Floyd pick him apart.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
And the odds are that it's going to happen, but I just don't see it, man.
joe rogan
If he really does start fighting like this, though, ooh, that would be weird.
brendan schaub
If Conor starts doing this, doing that.
joe rogan
He really starts doing Machida.
brendan schaub
You're going to see it.
Those first four rounds, people, hopefully whoever you're watching with, people are just silent.
Just, what in the fuck are we seeing right now?
joe rogan
Well, Floyd is also a counter-striker, and so is Conor.
But if Conor starts doing some weird karate shit, and gets him on his heels, gets him moving back, and it's somehow or another...
Can get him into some weird position where he can move faster than Floyd understands.
Or he could close the distance quicker than Floyd expects.
brendan schaub
Listen, I ask Pauly.
I go, Pauly, I know you guys hate each other and all that, but when you're sparring, were there things that were landing?
He did some things that were unexpected and definitely landed.
I'm like, man, the thing with Conor is if he has that in his bag, his bag of tricks, when he throws it, it has to count.
Because as soon as you throw it, Floyd's going to go, got it!
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Downloaded.
joe rogan
Got it!
brendan schaub
Downloaded.
So how many do you have?
Four?
Five?
Over 12 rounds?
You better make them fucking count, man.
It's like you got five bullets.
You better hit the target, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's true, right?
Right?
And here's the other thing.
How brittle are Floyd's hands really?
brendan schaub
Pretty brittle.
joe rogan
Broken him a few times, right?
brendan schaub
It's a huge factor for him.
If you've ever seen his training, stuff like that, after every session, his hands are in pure ice, and then he has the masseuse at night massages his hands.
So it's obviously a factor.
joe rogan
But was that before his last fight?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
For Berto as well?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's been going on for quite some time.
joe rogan
So it still gets sore.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
So think about this.
Eight ounce gloves.
He hits Connor on that giant Irish head.
Right on the forehead.
He has a forehead.
Let's be real.
He's a good looking doobie.
He has a dome on him.
He hits that hand.
Breaks his hand.
We go in Sizzler.
There's certain factors I like to bank on.
joe rogan
That's one of them.
If Conor recognizes that his hand's broken and he starts talking to him.
brendan schaub
All you have is a jab and he starts shuffling, putting his hands behind his back.
joe rogan
Oh, you broke your fucking hand.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're fucked.
joe rogan
You broke your fucking hand, didn't you?
unidentified
You're fucked.
joe rogan
Your little core and your little head.
brendan schaub
Dude, can you imagine?
And then he just annihilates Floyd, just walking him down.
joe rogan
Isn't it interesting, like, people were really mad at him for calling Floyd boy.
brendan schaub
Oh, man.
joe rogan
You can call each other bitch, motherfucker, but don't say boy.
brendan schaub
But if someone goes, oh, do you know Johnny?
Yeah, that's my boy.
What's wrong with that?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're boys.
brendan schaub
With Andre Berto, I was like, I kept saying homeboy.
Then when he left, I was like, hashtag no racist, hashtag no racist.
joe rogan
Homeboy's okay.
Is homeboy cool?
Yeah, homeboy's like, oh, he's my homeboy.
Hey, homeboy, you gotta really figure this out.
It's weird, though, because it has boy in it.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Like, you can't have any pause between home and boy.
brendan schaub
Oh, home, boy?
joe rogan
Listen, homeboy, yeah, you can't say that to a black guy.
brendan schaub
No, what?
joe rogan
It's too much boy in it.
brendan schaub
It's too much.
You gotta be careful, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Because, like, with Berto, he said something like, oh, that's my boy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's hard to say triggered around a black guy.
Trigger?
Trigger?
Trigger.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because it sounds like, yeah, right?
Like any word that's close, it's like, what did you say?
unidentified
I said tr- tr- I said T, bro.
joe rogan
Trigger.
brendan schaub
Yeah, boy, you just can't.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
brendan schaub
Like, did you see Cody Garbrandt kept calling Sterling Boy on social media?
joe rogan
Yeah, calling him Boy, too.
Yeah, Boy's a weird one.
brendan schaub
We just gotta take it out, though.
On social media, you can't do that.
joe rogan
But why not?
brendan schaub
Well, because the...
I mean, come on, Joe.
joe rogan
You know why.
But here's the thing.
If Al Jermaine started talking shit about Cody, that boy can't touch me.
No problem at all.
brendan schaub
I know.
See, I don't have a problem with that.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Well, no one has a problem with it.
brendan schaub
Well, but black people can use the N-word in boy, right?
Because they went through some shit to earn that title.
joe rogan
But boy?
But boy used to be fine.
brendan schaub
Isn't it tough?
joe rogan
No, it wasn't fine though, right?
Boy was probably always used, especially down south, as a derogatory term for young black men.
Always.
brendan schaub
The white people would always say, hey boy, grown men.
Hey boy, over here.
joe rogan
All those fucking Home Depot candle carrying douchebags fucked up boy.
brendan schaub
It's a fun word.
joe rogan
It's a great word.
brendan schaub
Those are my boys.
Now I can't say that anymore.
joe rogan
You can definitely say that still.
brendan schaub
Not if I have the token black guy.
Those are my...
Those are my men.
joe rogan
Hang out with white people just for that reason.
brendan schaub
All whites.
All whites.
Like it's Charlottesville.
unidentified
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Yeah, about Ian Edwards.
I can't ever say Ian's my boy.
brendan schaub
Nope.
That's out the window.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
But with Cody, I don't think Cody's racist.
He's like, wait, all right, boy, keep fighting.
Again, you got to know the connotation.
You got to know you're talking to a black guy.
So just don't use it.
Use bro!
joe rogan
Right.
White guys own bro, right?
brendan schaub
White guys own bro.
joe rogan
We did, but it used to be a black guy thing.
brendan schaub
No.
What's up, bro?
No, black guys own bra.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That's new.
Bro was like the 70s, back when they had platform shoes on and fucking bell bottoms and shit.
brendan schaub
No, see, I feel like black guys had brother.
joe rogan
They had brother and bro?
What up, bro?
brendan schaub
Really?
You're older than me, so...
jamie vernon
Bro, it's like Surfer, like that.
brendan schaub
Bro, I'm saying...
joe rogan
It's like Hawaiians.
brendan schaub
You're B-R-A-H. I'm talking B-R-U-H. That's bruh.
joe rogan
Bruh.
brendan schaub
Hi, bro.
joe rogan
Hold up, bro.
Yeah, that's like from Ice-T. I think he probably invented that.
brendan schaub
Correct.
So then they own it.
joe rogan
Or should I say Ice Cube?
Which one?
Ice Cube or Ice Cube?
brendan schaub
Ice Cube is a little older.
You know what I'm saying though?
joe rogan
But damn, bro, man.
White people fucked up bro.
brendan schaub
The racist whites.
joe rogan
Bro became like guys who wear loafers and go to private schools.
brendan schaub
Hey, bro.
Yeah, maybe.
Like the flat boys, bros.
joe rogan
Yeah, like guys trying a little too hard.
brendan schaub
But now it's a bad connotation because you go, oh my god, there's such bros over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
brendan schaub
Bros?
Like as soon as someone goes, oh, they're such bros.
Like I know exactly what they're talking about.
joe rogan
I get bro science all the time.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
Joe Rogan's using bro science.
Vegans love to say that.
brendan schaub
Bro science?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
We know exactly what bros are, don't we?
joe rogan
It's a funny thing, but it's anti-male in a lot of ways, and it's really rude, but they get upset if you mock anyone that's transgender or anyone that's a woman or anyone that's gay, but they have no problem calling us bros.
They have no problem shitting on the very essence of being a man is bro-ing out.
brendan schaub
Yeah, bro and out.
joe rogan
Bro and out.
brendan schaub
And now I'm embarrassed to say it.
joe rogan
Then it's toxic masculinity, man.
It's toxic.
brendan schaub
I mean, if I post a picture on this podcast and went, me and my bros, we're getting roasted.
joe rogan
Getting roasted.
brendan schaub
The bro squad.
joe rogan
Bro-ed it out.
Didn't used to be that way.
It's become that way over the last few years when so many douchebags use bro.
We did it to ourselves.
brendan schaub
We did it to ourselves.
A lot of tools did it because they took it over and used it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not we.
We're being generous and including ourselves and the rest of the men who fucked it up.
brendan schaub
True.
We didn't fuck it up.
I feel like we made it cool.
But we use brother now.
joe rogan
That's right, brother.
brendan schaub
Yeah, brother.
joe rogan
Brother can work.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Brother's like, you can't just throw the term brother around.
Yeah.
A guy I barely know tonight won't be like, oh, what's up, brother?
unidentified
You can't do that.
joe rogan
It's tricky.
brendan schaub
Unless you're Hulk Hogan.
joe rogan
Unless you're so friendly, you want everybody to be your brother.
Like, ooh, okay.
You can be that guy.
brendan schaub
Ah, man, I don't trust a guy who uses brother just with anyone.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't.
joe rogan
I throw it around a lot if I'm high.
From Hi and I Meet Strangers?
brendan schaub
What's up, brother?
You know, at the meet and greets I say, bro, what's up, brother?
joe rogan
Yeah, see, that's different, right?
brendan schaub
It's different.
joe rogan
You experienced something with them.
They saw your show.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
We are brothers.
Yeah, in a way.
In a way.
Hey, man, what do you think about this Tony Ferguson-Kevin Lee fight?
That's a good goddamn fight.
brendan schaub
I love that fight.
joe rogan
Kevin Lee is a bad motherfucker, man.
unidentified
Isn't he?
joe rogan
He took Michael Chiesa's back and strangled him like that.
brendan schaub
Definitely choked him.
Like, oh, Chiesa was upset.
joe rogan
Chiesa's upset.
Maybe he would have survived, but the bottom line is that shit was locked up and it should have never gotten locked up.
brendan schaub
Well, where I come from, when you go like this and then your body goes limp, you're about to go out.
joe rogan
Well, he was saying that he was just concentrating on his neck, just flexing his neck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
I'll just pretend I was asleep when no gear punched me in the face.
joe rogan
But no, for real, if a guy's really good at getting choked, and he can figure out how to kind of tuck his chin and flex his neck and just ride out the choke, and if he thinks he's got enough air...
brendan schaub
Not a rare naked, and Kevin Lee.
Kevin Lee is a straight-up strangler.
That's a strong fucking dude on your neck.
joe rogan
100%.
brendan schaub
I know black belts, man.
Chiesa is a black belt, yeah?
He's a high-level grappler.
joe rogan
Well, he's not a black belt.
He's not ranked, but he's essentially...
brendan schaub
He's a high-level grappler.
joe rogan
I believe he has black belt level jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
Especially in the UFC. Yeah.
I'd say he's a black belt level grappler in the UFC. Yeah, I agree.
That's fair to say.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I definitely think he's a black belt level.
brendan schaub
I know high level competition black belts where if a blue belt gets on your back and they have a full sunken and rear naked choke, there's not much you're going to do.
You can hand fight, but if it's actually in, you're fucked.
Especially a strong, athletic guy like Kevin Lee.
I got Kevin Lee on this, and I love Michael.
He's a beast.
I like all his fights.
I just feel like Kevin Lee, man, I think the division needs him, too.
He dresses well, speaks well, he's exciting to watch, you know?
joe rogan
100%.
The mistake that Mario made in stopping that fight before, in absolute conclusion, is a big mistake.
brendan schaub
Oh, Mario fucked up.
joe rogan
That's the real loser.
It's just a choke.
brendan schaub
It's a choke.
What are you doing?
joe rogan
You have to let it play out.
brendan schaub
Because now we have to have this argument, and then Kevin Lee's like, nah, he's choking him out.
Chase is arguing it wasn't.
Like, you fucked up, Mario.
God damn it.
joe rogan
Because if Chiesa just did go out unconscious, then we got no debate, and then Kevin Lee has this amazing, clean win, and there's no bullshit attached to it.
brendan schaub
To me, it was an amazing, clean win, and we just moved on.
I went, Mario fucked up, but he was going out anyways.
joe rogan
I can't accept that.
brendan schaub
Did USC accept it?
Because they went, here's an interim fight against Tony Ferguson.
joe rogan
I know they did, and well, it's a good move.
brendan schaub
Chiesa, you're on the undercard.
joe rogan
It's a good move, too, because Tony and Kevin Lee were jawing back and forth with each other.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a good fight, man.
joe rogan
It's a very good fight.
Kevin Lee's a beast, and he's a young guy.
Super confident.
He's one of those guys that you see from his first fight to the UFC, you see these giant leaps.
brendan schaub
Every fight, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Kiesa fight was a big leap.
brendan schaub
Kiesa 5, I thought, was going to give him a lot of problems.
When he took him, got his back, I was like, Jesus Christ, man.
joe rogan
And Kiesa landed a left hand on him, but when I watched it over in the replay, you know, sometimes when you're seeing it live, too, you're looking through the fence.
It's hard to tell what lands, what doesn't land.
He moved away from it, mostly.
Caught on the end of it, moved away from it.
And then, you know, once they got to the ground, it was crazy that he took Kiesa's back and he dominated the positions.
brendan schaub
Super dominant.
The other thing I find interesting is Kevin Lee wants to fight Khabib.
After every fight for the past three fights, he's like, I want Khabib in Russia.
It's like, God, damn, Detroit superstar?
Chill, son.
joe rogan
Well, that's the way to do it, man.
Ask to fight the scariest fucking guy in the game.
But the thing about Khabib is, I don't know where his body's at.
When they're saying his liver's shut down...
When he was supposed to be fighting Tony?
brendan schaub
You're talking about a different game.
joe rogan
Yeah, what does that mean?
Like, are you okay?
brendan schaub
He's cutting so much weight that his body literally was shutting down.
If a fucking Russian goes to the hospital before a fight, we got some serious problems.
joe rogan
Some serious problems.
brendan schaub
Where he didn't cut weight right and cut too much too soon.
joe rogan
And it's not even that they cancel the five-round fight for the interim title and have a three-round fight for a catch weight.
They don't even do that.
They're like, you can't fight.
brendan schaub
The commissioner was like, nah man, his liver's shutting down.
This is why when people are like, oh, we got Khabib vs.
Conor next.
Let's just talk about that logistically.
You got a guy who can't make weight.
Almost died making the weight.
You can go on a world tour against the biggest name ever in mixed martial arts and Conor McGregor.
That's going to be your fight?
You think Conor's just going to commit to that?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
How could he do that?
brendan schaub
Why would you do that?
joe rogan
Not only that, Michael Johnson fight with Khabib apparently had the same issue, but he got through it.
Like, they're saying it's the same thing that happened in the Michael Johnson fight.
So this means, like, as every weight cut you do, especially as you get older, apparently your body resists.
brendan schaub
It's like a sponge.
It gets bigger and bigger.
It gets harder and harder.
joe rogan
Your body does not want to do it.
brendan schaub
No.
Resist every time.
joe rogan
You get fat as fuck in between fights, too.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
You know who's hilarious?
Kat Zingano was talking about chicks gaining weight in between fights.
How about you cut all that weight and fuck your body up?
For a woman, getting that low in weight and body fat is probably even more fucked up.
brendan schaub
Their thyroids are fucked.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
My sister-in-law, my brother's wife, she did competition where she cut weight, and her thyroid just fucks their bodies up.
joe rogan
Oh, when they're doing the bodybuilding competition?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Where they cut all that water away.
Like, for the girls, like, you know, some of these girls you'll see in the UFC, like, the day of the fight, like, god damn, that's a supermodel.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
When you see her three weeks later, like, god damn!
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How does Pazer and Zane look like Adele right now?
Like, how did, like, they just blow up?
Like, it's literally like their body just goes poof.
joe rogan
Well, their body just probably really resists that weight cut.
It's just not natural to do it anymore.
Your body goes into famine mode.
He starts thinking, we've got to retain some water on this bitch.
brendan schaub
Cat's looking for that cyborg fight, but cyborg's trying to fight Holly in Matt's Square Garden.
joe rogan
That's a big fight.
brendan schaub
I talked to Cyborg two days ago, and she's like, man, Holly, Matt Squiregarn, that's what I want.
That's what we're trying to get.
joe rogan
Well, that's a fight where there's some money.
Holly is coming off that Jermaine Durandamay fight, which she cracked with that high kick.
No, she's coming off that too.
brendan schaub
I'm sorry, Betch Cohea, yeah.
joe rogan
But Betch Cohea was really not in her league, in my opinion.
brendan schaub
Not at all.
joe rogan
Whereas Jermaine Durandamy is.
She cracked Jermaine Durandamy with that high kick and then dropped her with that straight left hand.
Jermaine Durandamy is as legit a striker as you're ever going to see in women's MMA. As long as she's not fine cyborg.
For Holly to drop her?
Yeah.
She just didn't want no part of that.
brendan schaub
Have you ever seen anything like that ever in mixed martial arts?
joe rogan
Not interested.
brendan schaub
Damn, I'm just...
Went radio silent for fucking six months and then came back and was like, she did stuff like 10 years ago.
joe rogan
I'm going to cut down to fucking 135. Well, when I was talking to her post-fight and I said, well, what about Cyborg?
And I was asking her and doing the post-fight interview and she's like, man...
I think I gotta get some surgery.
brendan schaub
Yeah, shit, my fucking hand hurts right now.
Let's talk about this later, Joe.
Good question, though.
joe rogan
If you do have a hurt hand, which I believe she probably absolutely did, now's the time to do it.
Like, hey, I got this title.
I definitely don't want to have one hand.
brendan schaub
But she didn't do anything, right?
She was like, nah, that was an excuse.
joe rogan
She might have.
brendan schaub
But she vacated the title because she's like, nah, I'm not going to do that.
joe rogan
She's fighting again soon.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Not at that weight class.
135. She's fighting at 135. She vacated the belt, was like, nah, we're good.
Cyborg, have fun up there.
Holly for Cyborg's an interesting fight, because I think stylistically, Holly's the perfect matchup to beat Cyborg.
I don't think she beats her, but style-wise, she's made to beat Cyborg.
Think about this.
Let's just go through.
Think if Holly beat Cyborg.
She's the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
Merck's Ronda with a head kick.
So she beats the greatest something, the greatest of all time.
Mercer goes on a little bit of a tough run.
Who gives a fuck?
Then beats Cyborg.
She beat Ron and Cyborg.
We're going Sizzler.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then Misha Tate comes back.
brendan schaub
Get you some.
She was whooping her ass for five rounds and then just got choked out at the end.
But think about it, man.
You beat Ronda, who was undefeated at the time.
Then you beat freaking Cyborg.
joe rogan
If she beats Cyborg and Misha comes back and fights her again, that's a giant fight.
brendan schaub
It's a giant fight.
joe rogan
If Misha wants to fight again.
brendan schaub
I bet she would do it for that.
joe rogan
She's sitting around for a while.
unidentified
Get that itch.
brendan schaub
She's like, God, this UFC tonight kick is lame.
joe rogan
I'm getting bored.
brendan schaub
I'm getting bored as shit.
joe rogan
Itchy as fuck.
brendan schaub
Beach Tate's still first team all cutie up there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
First team booty.
unidentified
Tittays.
joe rogan
Those are recent.
brendan schaub
Those UFC tittays.
joe rogan
UFC tittays?
brendan schaub
Those are some pure UFC tittays.
But with Holly, if Holly can somehow, again, I don't think she's going to, but you never know.
I didn't think she was really going to beat Ronda.
But if she somehow can pull it off and beat Cyborg and she beat Ronda...
Do we just give her some weird statue in front of the UFC gym now?
How does this work?
joe rogan
Don't you think that in their eyes, there's always going to be...
Even though she beat Ronda, Ronda's the one that put the thing on the map.
She's always going to be revered more.
brendan schaub
See, I don't think so.
I think she has such a crash landing, like the worst of all time, and she's gone radio silent, that we don't remember that climb.
joe rogan
Do you think people are upset at her, like you weren't really a fighter?
Like you were only a fighter for a little bit.
If you were really a fighter, you'd still be there.
You'd be getting back into it.
You're still young.
brendan schaub
People are upset no matter what.
No matter what.
No matter what.
joe rogan
We're so weird with that kind of shit.
brendan schaub
No matter what.
joe rogan
They thought you were one thing, and you fail at it.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
You fucking loser.
I know.
joe rogan
They get mad if you were their hero.
brendan schaub
For sure, and you're not doing what they wanted you to do.
You talked about being a do-nothing bitch, and now you get knocked out, and you're doing nothing.
It's like, how dare you?
I bought the shirt.
joe rogan
Well, she was hosting Battle of the Network Stars.
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
It makes you just not into it, you know?
joe rogan
I mean, I could see not wanting to fight anymore, right?
You didn't want to fight anymore at a certain point in time.
brendan schaub
A little different, though.
She accomplished a lot more than me.
My life now has never been better, man.
I love what I'm doing.
joe rogan
She doesn't have a thing like that, maybe.
No, no.
Maybe it was Battle of the Network Stars.
brendan schaub
I don't know if that's your true calling.
I can't believe they talked into doing that either.
I don't know, man.
And also, maybe she made so much money, like maybe she's good there too.
I don't know.
joe rogan
But even if you make so much money...
brendan schaub
It's not about the money, is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody thinks that that's going to be enough to make you happy.
brendan schaub
It's not.
joe rogan
It'll definitely be you in a position where you don't have to worry about bills.
Now, maybe that's your number one problem, and then you're going to be happier.
That's possible.
brendan schaub
Once you check that off, the other problems start to come up.
You're like, all right, now what am I going to do?
I don't have a passion.
What am I waking up for?
joe rogan
There was a study on income, and one of the things they said was when it comes to overall happiness, see if you can find this, I think they said everything over $70,000 a year is kind of a washout.
brendan schaub
I thought it was $75,000, right?
unidentified
Somewhere in that range.
brendan schaub
If you went from a bike to a car, happiness.
joe rogan
Nice.
brendan schaub
When you go from a car and just buy another car and you have two cars, nothing.
Nothing changes in your life.
joe rogan
That's not true.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
You need to drive my Corvette.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I agree.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you talking about?
The perfect salary for happiness is $75,000 a year.
brendan schaub
Wouldn't it depend where you live and what you like to do?
joe rogan
Yeah, see, I don't know about that.
For like, the magic income, as people earn more, their day-to-day happiness rises until you hit $75,000.
After that, it's just more stuff with no gain in happiness.
Hmm.
That's someone who's never had a really cool car.
unidentified
Who wrote this?
joe rogan
You never like had a deck that overlooks the mountain where you grill with your buddies.
unidentified
I agree.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
You've never been able to go on these dope ass vacations.
brendan schaub
Never had a steak and a dick son.
joe rogan
Travel to Japan, get some sushi fresh out of the fucking ocean by some master chef.
brendan schaub
That private jet.
joe rogan
You can have some baller times.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but maybe you get a fucking yacht and you rent it and Go through the Caribbean.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
You do whatever you want.
You got kids.
You can take on vacation whenever you want.
You don't worry about that stuff.
joe rogan
Fuck out of here.
brendan schaub
That guy's full of shit.
joe rogan
Dr. Phil would be just as happy if he made $75,000 a year.
unidentified
For real.
brendan schaub
Get out of here.
unidentified
Bitch.
brendan schaub
It just depends, man.
joe rogan
Bitch, fuck you and your study.
brendan schaub
Fucking bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, you think Elon Musk would be super pumped to go down to about $75,000 a year?
brendan schaub
You think Oprah's fucking giving away cars making $75,000 a year?
joe rogan
Do you think he would get that top-shelf actress pussy if he was making $75 million a year?
Or $75,000 a year?
No, even $75 million a year.
He would be like, damn, I'm struggling.
Cut back on my security.
They were detailing all the different shit that Johnny Depp spends money on.
brendan schaub
Dude, I love this stuff.
joe rogan
What in the holy fuck?
He is, I don't know what he does in terms of his substance of choice, what he enjoys, but he appears to be on a financial rampage.
brendan schaub
Didn't he have to like take a loan from his agent or something like that?
joe rogan
Dude, he owns, Johnny Depp owns like 40 houses or something crazy?
brendan schaub
Something crazy.
joe rogan
He owns houses all over the world.
brendan schaub
They said his security is like stupid, like $275,000 a month.
unidentified
Like, bro, bro, you just need one guy.
brendan schaub
No one's trying to kill you.
joe rogan
He's an animal, man.
brendan schaub
You're fucking Captain Jack Sparrow.
No one's trying to kill you.
joe rogan
He's a fucking animal and he's got some sort of a lawsuit.
unidentified
Two million a month spending money.
joe rogan
Well, you know, you gotta spend money, bro.
brendan schaub
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Johnny Depp's ex-business managers allege she has outraged his spending happy of $2 million a month.
You get yours, Johnny Depp!
You go get yours!
brendan schaub
Dude, how does that happen?
How does no one go, bro, you gotta chill out on the $2 million a month?
joe rogan
He spent $3 million to fulfill friend Hunter S. Thompson's dream of having his ass just shot out of a cannon.
brendan schaub
3 million!
joe rogan
45 luxury cars, 10 million dollars a year to support his entourage, friends, and family, and $30,000 a month alone on wine.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, he's awesome.
joe rogan
Baller!
brendan schaub
Baller!
joe rogan
Balling out of control!
That's how you do it, Johnny Depp!
brendan schaub
He's lived a great life, though.
Imagine those months, 2 million.
45 luxury cars?
10 million, his entourage is having a grand old time.
joe rogan
Personal lawyer, Jake Bloom, Depp was living beyond his means and urged him to spend less and sell certain expensive but unnecessary assets to repay loans and pay his taxes and living expenses.
He's just out of control.
brendan schaub
14 houses.
joe rogan
Listen, that's cocaine living right there, ladies and gentlemen.
14 residences.
Acquire, improve, and furnish 14 residences.
brendan schaub
I'm trying to see that car collection.
unidentified
14?
joe rogan
14?
14 residences, 45 luxury cars.
Good lord, Johnny.
brendan schaub
But how much money did he make in his career?
Oh, $650,000.
Sorry, Jesus.
$650 million.
That's a lot of money.
But $2 million a year.
joe rogan
In the past 30 years, earned him an estimated $650 million.
Being a rich movie star, however, does not necessarily bring great financial savvy.
Over the past decade, Mr. Depp paid more than $5.6 million in interest on overdue taxes, has lent millions of dollars to people unlikely to pay him back, and has unwidely splurged a number of questionable investments, not the least of which is that town near San Tropez.
He bought a town.
My man just said, we're buying the town.
Call my manager.
Tell him we're buying the town.
The assistant calls the manager.
Johnny's buying the town.
He doesn't talk to the manager.
brendan schaub
He's like, nah, so which house do you like?
I like them all.
I'll take the town.
joe rogan
Five homes.
unidentified
I'll take the town.
All five homes.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
Well, he owns a street in Hollywood.
Oh, yeah?
Like Stan Hopes' boy.
They're allowed to say that because they're both white.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And Stan Oak has to go up to the street and there's a dude with an earpiece waiting for him.
And the dude with the earpiece takes him in a golf cart and drives him up to the top of the hill.
And they own like the whole fucking block.
But there's one dude on the block that apparently won't sell.
brendan schaub
Tight move to that guy.
joe rogan
That guy's like, nah.
brendan schaub
Fuck it.
joe rogan
I like this house.
I've been in forever.
unidentified
Fuck off.
brendan schaub
Tight move.
joe rogan
All coked up.
I want to buy it and improve.
unidentified
I can see.
joe rogan
Just make this whole thing glass.
brendan schaub
Just we're going to sail the seven seas.
joe rogan
We're going to turn it black.
The whole room black.
unidentified
The whole house black.
brendan schaub
I heard Nicholas Cage is even crazier spending.
He buys castles and knights equipment and shit.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a good move.
jamie vernon
Him and Leonardo DiCaprio, I think, were bidding on some skull, and he had to return it because it was stolen from, like, the...
I forget where I'll look.
brendan schaub
That's ballin'.
When he bought a skull from King Tut's fuckin'...
joe rogan
And they had to return it?
unidentified
Yeah, the museums were like, bro, that's our shit!
joe rogan
Leonardo DiCaprio had to return a bunch of art that was given to him by a guy who apparently stole it all.
He agrees to return stolen dinosaur skull to Mongolia.
unidentified
That's ballin'!
brendan schaub
That's fuckin' ballin'!
Oh, that makes me feel good.
joe rogan
Eight years ago.
brendan schaub
I made some stupid purchases.
joe rogan
The skull of a Tyrannosaurus...
What is that word?
brendan schaub
A Tyrannosaurus skull?
joe rogan
What is that?
What's a Tyrannosaurus batar?
Do you know what that is?
Have you ever heard that before?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
How weird.
brendan schaub
Bro, how much do those go for?
joe rogan
Dude, we were talking about...
Whoa, that's a dope looking animal.
Damn, he bought that skull?
unidentified
Taborosaurus.
joe rogan
Wow, that must be massive.
So someone stole it?
Someone stole it, and he bought it, and he had to return it?
brendan schaub
Off the black market?
joe rogan
Wow, that's crazy.
brendan schaub
Where do you put that in your house?
joe rogan
Where do you put it?
Okay, so here's my thinking.
You have to have a real skull.
Like, if you want to buy some replica, like a child's toy, you're a fucking asshole.
If you have one of those things- Oh, fuck you.
brendan schaub
If it's not real?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, if you go to a lot of museums, a lot of the skulls you're seeing are replicas.
brendan schaub
Damn!
276,000!
Better deal than I thought!
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
That's it?
brendan schaub
Joe, we need one for the new studio.
Buy it.
joe rogan
I'm thinking about it right now.
brendan schaub
Let's make some bids on a T-Rex.
Let's just have like three raptors at the new studio.
Dude.
I'm thinking about it.
joe rogan
What's like the most common dinosaur that you could buy?
brendan schaub
I bet something lame.
I bet you get like a stegosaurus for cheap.
Because they're fucking vegans.
unidentified
They have little heads.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're vegans.
They're all small.
joe rogan
They have little heads.
brendan schaub
Now you want to try ceratops.
joe rogan
Damn.
brendan schaub
Those saber-toothed ones are bullshit.
We ain't trying to have that.
joe rogan
Yeah, saber-toothed tiger's not a dinosaur, Jamie.
That doesn't count.
brendan schaub
Make sure they're real, Jamie.
joe rogan
It's on Etsy.
brendan schaub
Hey, free shipping.
Free shipping, $55,000.
joe rogan
What are they saying they have?
What is that one?
jamie vernon
On Etsy.
joe rogan
What is the animal?
Oh, that can't be real.
Authentic Fossil Massasaur Halliosaurus Amborgy.
brendan schaub
Dude, that looks sick in the studio.
joe rogan
Yeah, that does look pretty dope.
What is that thing?
How big is it?
78 inches.
jamie vernon
Dude.
brendan schaub
Damn, that thing's fucking big.
joe rogan
Is that real?
brendan schaub
That's real, son.
joe rogan
They really have that for sale?
brendan schaub
And we get free shipping right now.
jamie vernon
That's the thing with Nicolas Cage's thing.
So it took like seven years for him to get the certificate of authenticity, and then when they got it, that's when they found out it was stolen.
So you can buy some fake shit and not know for a while.
brendan schaub
Dude, they had a dope-ass...
Well, there's one.
You can get a T-Rex from 1.8 million.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just can't imagine that for $55,000 you should get a real...
Is that what it is?
How much was it?
$250?
brendan schaub
$55, free shipping.
joe rogan
T-Rex is $1.5 million?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
If I was like some Sultan-type character...
brendan schaub
I'd have all that all around my house, like Game of Thrones.
joe rogan
A T-Rex go.
Ooh, scroll up.
unidentified
Ooh, that's sick.
joe rogan
How much?
$1.8 million?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
Worth it.
If you're Warren Buffet, and you're 90, and you're worth 80 billion bucks.
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
Like, why not have a bunch of that shit in your house?
joe rogan
Buy the shit out of that.
Your wife would just slowly start to realize you're going insane.
Start constructing a dinosaur in the middle of the living room.
All of a sudden, the construction crews at the house like, what's going on, honey?
I'm raising the roof.
brendan schaub
I got a new T-Rex coming in.
joe rogan
I got a T-Rex.
He's too tall.
We're going to have to cut out the ceiling.
Too tall, bitch.
I'm going to put a glass ceiling in the living room.
brendan schaub
Out of stock.
joe rogan
That means somebody who bought it.
jamie vernon
A velociraptor from Jurassic Park.
joe rogan
But I don't want a rubber toy, Jamie.
brendan schaub
I want a real dinosaur.
I'll take that Predator thing, though.
I will take that Predator thing.
joe rogan
How about this head?
Oh, I know a dude who makes those, man.
The guy who made the American Werewolf, Patrick McGee.
brendan schaub
He makes Predator thing?
joe rogan
He makes the Predator and he makes the Alien.
brendan schaub
Those can't be cheap.
Ooh, should we get that Bugatti limo, though?
jamie vernon
This fish is a million and a half dollars.
That's gross.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Trying to pull it out.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
White diamond.
Premium white diamond.
joe rogan
You'd be an asshole to buy a fish for a million and a half dollars.
brendan schaub
Depends.
What's he do?
joe rogan
Is it alive?
brendan schaub
What's he do?
joe rogan
What is it?
Is it a carving?
jamie vernon
Seldom seen fish.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
The most exclusive breed in the world.
Premium white diamond fish are rarer than precious gemstones.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So it's one of those things, if you're an asshole, you have it in your fish tank?
unidentified
This fish right here is worth $1.5 million.
jamie vernon
Did you see that white moose the other day?
brendan schaub
I did.
jamie vernon
All white moose?
joe rogan
Yeah, apparently there's only like a hundred of those.
brendan schaub
If you have an all white moose at your house, You're getting some panty droppers.
joe rogan
Here's the thing, man.
Here's the real thing.
If you're on a hunting trip, okay, that moose is a legal-sized moose, and a white moose steps in front of you, do you release that arrow?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you gotta shoot that white moose in his stupid face.
joe rogan
It's a...
It's totally legal.
brendan schaub
I don't like the way he looks.
joe rogan
It's a good-sized moose.
brendan schaub
Oh, we're just gonna shoot the black moose now?
Fuck a white moose.
joe rogan
Brown moose lives matter.
brendan schaub
I don't discriminate.
joe rogan
White, black.
brendan schaub
I've never shot an arrow in my life.
joe rogan
But the thing is, man, here's the thing about animal rights activists and people that are nutty about animals.
Again, what this is is a genetic anomaly.
It's not like this is a specific breed.
brendan schaub
It's like an albino person, right?
joe rogan
It's not albino, though.
It's not an albino.
Apparently, it's just got some weird genetic anomaly.
brendan schaub
One of a hundred.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a hundred of them.
So what is it?
Let's see what it says.
Scroll up a little bit.
I think it says what the genetic mutation is.
Yeah, see, fur coloring is a genetic mutation, and it's not an albino.
Not an albino unlike all white animals.
brendan schaub
I heard they taste like vanilla.
joe rogan
They taste good, dude.
brendan schaub
You never had a white one, though.
You've never even seen one, I bet.
joe rogan
Same.
brendan schaub
Same shit?
joe rogan
Same on the inside.
It's like white people.
brendan schaub
It's all the same.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Wow, it's crazy.
Some people thought the string coloring might be another sign of a sure-to-becoming apocalypse.
brendan schaub
Wow, goddammit.
joe rogan
You see a horde of white moose?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
There was only a hundred of them, though?
joe rogan
I wouldn't tell anybody.
I'll tell you one thing.
If I did kill that, I'd keep my mouth shut.
I wouldn't tell people.
They'd get too mad.
Even if it didn't matter.
Like, if you find a bear, okay?
Like, there's a black bear, if you're hunting black...
First of all, if you're hunting black bear, people get mad at you anyway, because you're killing a bear.
Because they're not round bears, they think the bears are extinct, or there's a very few of them...
brendan schaub
There's a shitload of bears, depending on where you're at, right?
joe rogan
So many bears that they're all cannibals.
They eat each other.
That's a fact.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they eat the cubs, yeah?
joe rogan
They eat the cubs like crazy.
Including the females that eat their own cubs.
brendan schaub
Cam was saying he has to take out the big older ones because they'll fuck up all the cubs.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's actually better for the population to take out the big males because the big males eat cubs.
Correct.
When we were there, oh wow, look at these white deer.
brendan schaub
Pigs.
joe rogan
Those are little baby white moose?
brendan schaub
Oh wow, they look like pigs.
I would grab one of those and run off in my car.
They're cute as shit.
joe rogan
Oh, they're adorable.
The twins are likely less than a month old.
brendan schaub
Dude, they're so cute.
joe rogan
Little cuties.
brendan schaub
Little cuties.
joe rogan
There's a mama moose.
brendan schaub
That big mama's gonna wreck your world.
joe rogan
They're different than any other undulates in that they're real aggressive.
Like a moose will chase you down and beat your fucking ass.
brendan schaub
They're super dangerous.
joe rogan
A deer's not likely gonna do that.
They've done it before.
brendan schaub
Ah, fuck a deer.
joe rogan
Elk might stab you.
brendan schaub
Really?
With those horns?
joe rogan
You get a little cocky when he's horny?
You cock-plocking an elk?
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That's when they're crazy.
brendan schaub
That's rule number one.
joe rogan
They will fuck you up.
They have swords growing out of their head.
brendan schaub
See, I'm down to doing a hunt like that.
Something dangerous where, hey, like, I gotta watch my P's and Q's.
Like, we're hunting, like, baby fawn.
I can't fuck with you guys.
I told Cam this, man.
It has to be something dangerous, and I'm down.
joe rogan
Okay.
Well, deer, I mean, if they did want to fuck you up with those things, they could stab you.
But the thing is, they're prey.
I mean, this is what they are in nature.
They eat grass and they get preyed upon.
They are the food source of mountain lions and wolves and bears and countless other animals.
I mean, that's just what they are.
They're beautiful while they're alive.
It's not like you should somehow or another diminish their existence, but that's a prey animal.
brendan schaub
That's why they're here.
joe rogan
That's why they're, I mean, in the system that they're in, the biological system.
Yeah, the ecosystem.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we didn't create it.
joe rogan
And they're goddamn delicious.
I had some access deer for dinner last night.
brendan schaub
I've never had access deer, but when you post those, I get so hungry.
joe rogan
Ooh, so good!
brendan schaub
I've been tearing the grill up lately.
joe rogan
That, in my opinion, is like the most, if you can get to Hawaii, Hawaii, if you can get to Hawaii, that's the most ethical place to hunt.
Because they don't have any predators, so they have to kill these animals.
So they have like some insane number of deer on lanai, they have axis deer on Maui, they have them on, I think Molokai has them too.
brendan schaub
There's no predators.
joe rogan
No predators.
None.
So the only predators are people.
So they actually bring over snipers to take out some of the deer to keep the population numbers down.
If the population gets too high, what happens is these deer start getting disease.
They run out of food to eat.
The good thing about Hawaii, too, is there's so much growth.
So much plant growth.
brendan schaub
I love Hawaii, man.
Love Hawaii.
joe rogan
Love it.
brendan schaub
You weren't there for your birthday.
What did you do for your birthday?
joe rogan
Nothing.
Went to Disneyland.
Took the kids to Disneyland.
Oh, okay, not by yourself.
brendan schaub
That's some weird shit.
joe rogan
My family, Cam Haynes' family.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's cool, man.
joe rogan
To Disneyland, had a good time.
Yeah, I'm not a big party guy.
brendan schaub
You should still have a birthday party and then have your family speak into a video.
joe rogan
That'd be a good idea, right?
I still have flashbacks.
brendan schaub
What a friend do that.
joe rogan
What friend?
Anyway.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm not a big birthday guy either.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just like, I don't want to be the center of attention like that.
It's ironic as that sounds, because most of what I do...
You want to be in the center of attention in some way.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a little awkward.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it just seems like...
brendan schaub
It's just weird.
Yeah, I'd rather just, I don't know, do a set, have a nice dinner.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So, went to Disneyland.
Ruled the Guardians of the Galaxy ride.
God damn, it's fun.
brendan schaub
You love it?
joe rogan
So good.
I thought, like, how are they going to make Tower of Terror better?
brendan schaub
Oh, that's right!
Tower of Terror is my favorite writer of all time.
joe rogan
It's even better now.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
It's better.
brendan schaub
I'm not like Guardian Galax.
Oh, I really haven't seen it.
Guardian of the Galaxies, right?
joe rogan
You never saw that movie?
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
It's a fun fucking movie, man.
I haven't seen Part 2, but I saw Part 1. Oh, you finally saw Alien Covenant.
Ooh, I love it.
brendan schaub
How good?
I fucking told you, man.
joe rogan
I loved it.
unidentified
Loved it.
joe rogan
All these people that didn't like it.
brendan schaub
My favorite alien.
joe rogan
Get out of my life.
People didn't like that.
brendan schaub
Right?
joe rogan
You got some shit advice.
brendan schaub
It was brilliant.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What did you say is a bad movie?
Alien Covenant?
Oh, yeah.
Click.
brendan schaub
Dude, I was crunk.
I was crunk for that alien.
I was...
joe rogan
I loved it.
I loved it.
brendan schaub
I swear to God, when the movie, I stood up, stand ovation.
Slow clap.
Everyone else, sit down!
joe rogan
I love when they made the AI guy, gave him, I don't want to say too much, spoiler alert.
brendan schaub
The movie's been out for a grip.
joe rogan
Doesn't matter.
Some people out there don't have the time.
brendan schaub
God.
Damn it.
It's been out for how many months?
joe rogan
Okay, you're going to have to tune out now, folks.
Because we're going to talk about it.
brendan schaub
You haven't seen Alien Covenant that came out seven months ago.
Go ahead and zone up.
unidentified
Jamie's fucked.
joe rogan
He has to eat it.
He has to eat it.
brendan schaub
Well, you don't have to tell a story.
joe rogan
That one alien?
That hybrid alien?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Ooh.
Dude, it was fun.
I like the fact that the AI guy, they cut out his creativity because he started getting weird.
brendan schaub
It makes sense.
joe rogan
If you give artificial intelligence the need and the ability to create...
brendan schaub
But this movie, it went Prometheus first, then this, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it was like 10 years after Prometheus.
brendan schaub
I love Prometheus.
joe rogan
I like that, too.
brendan schaub
Hey, what was the movie with the alien?
They named him Calvin.
You know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah.
Life.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like that too.
brendan schaub
Dude, I watch that, on every plane I watch that movie.
I love that movie.
joe rogan
The problem with those movies is there's cut-the-shit scenes.
Like when the, you know, Life One, where they're playing with it, and they try these experiments with it, and they introduce the electric, like, hey, come on, man.
You doing this out in space?
Don't you want to bring this back to Earth before you start fucking with it in some sort of secured laboratory?
brendan schaub
No, we can't.
Because you do that, and then, look, if we brought that bitch back to Earth, then, you know what I'm saying?
I thought that movie was so fucking good.
joe rogan
But you think they'd be doing things like zapping it?
I'm trying to stimulate the throat.
brendan schaub
They thought he was dead though.
Remember that?
So they zapped him, then he went...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That movie was so dope.
joe rogan
That was intense.
brendan schaub
He was scary as shit.
joe rogan
It was scary.
You know, the problem was they gave him a little bit of a CGI face, and I was like, oh, come on.
brendan schaub
I didn't like that either.
Like that demon face?
Nah, man, I don't need that.
Keep him Calvin.
I like how they called him Calvin.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they couldn't make it too demonic, because then it would be alien.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
Which is the most demonic.
That thing is the most demonic.
brendan schaub
That thing's so scary.
joe rogan
Oh, it's awesome.
brendan schaub
I love that movie.
joe rogan
And that tongue thing comes out.
I like all the slobber and shit that comes out of its mouth, too, with this big, giant fucking bug head.
brendan schaub
Dude, have you been to the theater?
It's right off...
It's in Westwood there.
I pick?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
You're talking.
You get steaks.
You can get chicken tenders.
I mean, you gotta be off your diet.
joe rogan
Where is it?
brendan schaub
It's right off of, I think, Wellshire.
Wilshire and Westwood.
unidentified
Oh, is it like...
joe rogan
It's called IPIC. Like Cineopolis?
That kind of shit?
brendan schaub
Yeah, kind of.
joe rogan
There's a few of those now.
brendan schaub
You get the VIP. It's going to cost you about $60 to get in the door.
joe rogan
That's the way to do it, though.
brendan schaub
That's it, son.
joe rogan
Ooh, where's that?
brendan schaub
That's it.
joe rogan
Ooh, it's a small theater, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you need to take your wifey there.
joe rogan
That's the move, man.
Small theater, less people.
brendan schaub
They have all-alcohol drinks.
Ooh, I like it.
They have everything, man.
joe rogan
I like it.
I like it.
brendan schaub
And you can look down upon the people who didn't buy the VIP tickets.
It's cool.
And judge them as they walk by you.
joe rogan
Oh, so there's people below you that have regular seats?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and you're like, get out of here, peasants.
Move on, peasants.
Don't look at me.
joe rogan
What if they talk?
brendan schaub
Enjoy the movie, peasants.
joe rogan
People down below, you know, they're angry about their position in society.
They might start talking in the movie theater.
brendan schaub
I snitch on them.
Yeah, I snitch on them right away.
Excuse me, no phones, ma'am.
Ma'am, phone.
joe rogan
Did you know that there's a system that you can get for your house where it downloads movies as they come out and you can watch brand new movies?
brendan schaub
I need that shit.
joe rogan
As they come out.
brendan schaub
Because with a kid, like Annabelle, the new Annabelle came out.
I love scary movies.
Did you see it?
joe rogan
Not yet.
brendan schaub
I'm dying to see it.
You seen that new It trailer?
Shit your pants, Gary.
Coming in September.
joe rogan
Here's how I use movie pass.
jamie vernon
People are getting pissed off about this.
Why?
I think it's run by Netflix or the same guy that started Netflix, started this sort of thing.
It's been available for a while at $50 a month, but now it's down to $10 a month.
brendan schaub
What?
jamie vernon
There's some weird catch.
There's some catches to it.
It's only for 2D versions and then like...
You still have to pay for a ticket or something, then you get paid back.
There's some weird caveats to it.
brendan schaub
Dude, I would pay $100 a month to watch movies at my house.
joe rogan
This is not at your house, though.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is different than what I was talking about.
joe rogan
He just introduced something totally different.
This is just cheap movie tickets that people are mad about.
Yeah, but the house thing's not cheap.
The house thing is a system you get.
I think it's like $50,000.
And once you have it installed in your house, then you can watch movies as they come out.
And they're on like a hard drive.
brendan schaub
I'm such a movie buff.
joe rogan
Dude, if you have a home theater...
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Having a home theater is clutch!
brendan schaub
And seeing new movies...
Because with a kid, it's tough to get the babysitter.
I see movies like, fuck, man.
I just saw Star Wars.
It takes a while.
I can't wait for that to come out on DVD. It sucks.
It's tough.
You know how it is.
jamie vernon
You can't even see what movies are available unless you pay for it.
joe rogan
I think it's most movies that are out.
I think that is exactly it.
And it's very expensive.
Like I said, I think it's like $50,000.
brendan schaub
And it just comes with the service to provide the movie?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think you just, it's like a hard drive and you download whatever the movie is that you want to see and you can watch it.
brendan schaub
I feel like you shouldn't do that now because technology is coming so fast and like Netflix are going, you know, big movie stars like Will Smith and these guys and Adam Sandler doing these Netflix deals so you don't have to go to the theater.
joe rogan
Look at this, it's got a fingerprint reader.
Finger swipe with liveness detection?
Liveness?
Liveness means someone wants to cut your fucking hand off and have a dead hand that they use to start up your screen?
jamie vernon
Or just take your fingerprint on a piece of paper.
joe rogan
Or a dead hand.
Whoa.
Liveness.
brendan schaub
Where the fuck do you see liveness?
joe rogan
Right up there, under fingerprints on it.
What kind of a person wants to kill someone so they can see Pirates of the Caribbean 8?
brendan schaub
Oh dude, I might kill a bitch to see the new 8. To see the new Ed at my house, I'd slice someone's finger off.
joe rogan
At home.
brendan schaub
Dude, how great would that be?
I don't like getting ready going out.
I want to chill at home in my undies, watch all the new movies.
joe rogan
The real problem is other people when they can't keep it together, when they start answering phones, when talking.
I've been at so many movie theaters where people start talking.
It's so annoying.
brendan schaub
I used to go to this one movie theater.
It was a little urban.
Take that how you want.
A little urban.
And there's a movie theater.
Homeboy in front of me just on the phone the whole time.
And people are like, God.
And so I go, bro, off the phone, man.
And he keeps going.
He puts up his finger like this.
I'm like, oh, no.
He keeps going.
I go, bro.
Movie started.
I go, bro, off your fucking phone.
And he turns around and goes, wait till the movie's over.
I was like...
I've been in some fights, man.
I think I can fight.
The whole movie, all I could think of, I'm like, what am I going to do here?
I got my girl here.
Is he with all those people?
They all look similar.
Catch my drift.
What am I going to do here?
Am I going to get jumped?
I couldn't tell you what movie I saw.
It fucked the whole experience up.
I'm just balls deep in popcorn thinking about how I'm going to fuck these guys up.
Carbon up.
Carb loading.
Carb loading.
Movie gets done.
He doesn't say shit.
Fuck the whole movie up, though.
joe rogan
You should have said something.
brendan schaub
I was stressed.
joe rogan
How long ago was this?
brendan schaub
Probably like three or four years ago.
joe rogan
I think I know.
Link, if I was you, if I could remote control your body, I might go over there and smack him in the head.
brendan schaub
But what happens if there's a bunch, man?
You're with your girl, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
It's true.
It depends on how many you got.
But yeah, it is a very, very rude and disrespectful thing to be on your phone.
brendan schaub
But I could see he's on Instagram.
Like, I can see your phone, you're on Facebook.
What the fuck?
You're in the movies!
joe rogan
Because he's a dummy.
brendan schaub
You're a dummy.
joe rogan
People are addicted.
brendan schaub
You're a dummy.
joe rogan
They're goddamn addicted to their phones.
Like...
Do you know how few people have the ability to sit through a fucking podcast without looking at their phones?
You know how to do it.
But a lot of my guests, I see them checking their phones.
They start checking their phones and doing this.
unidentified
To me that's so disrespectful.
joe rogan
Texting, hold on, I just gotta text this guy right back.
brendan schaub
So disrespectful.
Would you do that if you're on SportsCenter?
No, you wouldn't?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Especially not now.
You know, in this day and age.
But for some people, the requirement of an hour or two or in a podcast, three, without checking the phone, impossible.
brendan schaub
Chill out.
You're not that busy, folks.
joe rogan
It's not that.
It's their addicts.
They're straight up junkies.
They're getting that little tweak, that little rush of anticipation.
That dopamine, right?
brendan schaub
The dopamine, if they get an email or text.
They say literally, and we don't even know how addicted the phones are, but people, their brains are becoming addicted to it.
Just to the sensation of feeling it, and the colors, and mentions, and Instagram, and DMs.
joe rogan
Let me check my phone real quick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let me check my phone real quick.
joe rogan
It just seems like...
brendan schaub
Now that we're talking about it, my mouth is salivating.
joe rogan
It's never as fun as talking to friends.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
But you go to a restaurant, you'll see five people on their phones not even looking at each other.
brendan schaub
I hate that shit.
joe rogan
And when you're hanging out with a friend and they're on their phone all the time, it's brutal.
It's like, dude, come be here.
Come be here.
Put your phone down.
Put your phone down.
brendan schaub
There's some restaurants, they take your phone out the door.
You know that?
joe rogan
Fuck them.
brendan schaub
And there's some that give 25%.
Then there's some, if you don't use your phone, you get 25% off.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
If you don't use your phone at all.
So your camera's overhead?
brendan schaub
I don't know how to do it.
joe rogan
Checking, checking.
Oh, gotcha!
brendan schaub
No deal.
joe rogan
No, you're in the restaurant.
You checked it.
No, I checked it when I got up from the table.
brendan schaub
No, it doesn't count.
Don't get the deal, my man.
joe rogan
I was taking a shit.
I didn't know anything to do.
Ah, you can't check it.
brendan schaub
Still, you checked your DMs.
joe rogan
In the restaurant.
In the restaurant.
brendan schaub
I don't know how it works, but you have some people.
joe rogan
You can't be taking fake shit so you can check your Facebook.
You took a fake shit just to check your Facebook.
brendan schaub
Addicted, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
People are super addicted.
brendan schaub
You and Joey Diaz are pretty good about calling.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I call people.
unidentified
Joey's great.
brendan schaub
You're great.
I like to call people.
The other day, you and I text so much.
Sometimes I don't know because you're busy.
Sometimes I'm busy.
So you got to text.
When you're texting novels, it's like, fuck.
joe rogan
No, we went back and forth.
We had a question.
I'm like, okay, I got to hear this.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
We had to talk.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's exhausting.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, there's some people that just, they, for whatever reason, are tethered to the hip.
And then there's some people that decide they can't use it at all, so they just go straight cell phone, like button phone.
brendan schaub
Flip phone?
Yeah, flip phone.
joe rogan
Ari, Aziz Ansari.
Aziz Ansari's gone totally off the internet.
I was watching some video, or no, it was a reading of Vice's article.
I think it was Vice.
They interviewed him, and they were asking about it.
He's offline.
brendan schaub
He's killing it.
joe rogan
He got rid of his social media.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Got rid of all his shit.
He's hilarious.
Doesn't do anything.
brendan schaub
So did Ed Sheeran.
Because he appeared on Game of Thrones, and he got such backlash, he stopped doing it.
joe rogan
Eh, people are cunts.
brendan schaub
You have thicker skin, for God's sake.
joe rogan
Stay offline for a few days, bro.
brendan schaub
But people are gonna hate on it.
You gotta use it for what it is, you know?
Like, for these trolls.
Who gives a fuck what the sheep say?
joe rogan
People hate on everything.
brendan schaub
Everything.
joe rogan
There's nothing you do to get away from that.
brendan schaub
Nothing.
joe rogan
It is what it is.
brendan schaub
Go to Kevin Hart's post, and it's like, fuck you, little man.
It's like, Kevin Hart?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, how can I beat Kevin Hart?
joe rogan
There's too many people.
And everybody having access to you, everybody being able to communicate with you.
If you just decide to swim in that river and you wonder why you got poisoned.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I agree.
The problem is with your kids.
Like, even now, my son, he wants to grab my phone and, you know, he's not going to Twitter and checking DMs and dick pics, but he's, like, scrolling through everything just because of the stimulation.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
With, like, your daughters, how old are they?
joe rogan
Seven and nine.
brendan schaub
They have phones?
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
Your nine-year-old does it?
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
She can laugh at them, duh, son.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
She didn't show up to school and be like, look at this bitch!
unidentified
She didn't have a phone!
joe rogan
You don't have an iPhone 8?
If you give kids phones, you let them see beheading videos, you're letting them tune in to the latest news.
brendan schaub
I'm on board, man.
joe rogan
They can see that car run over those people at that white power rally.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
I mean, all that shit a kid can see and they're gonna see.
Their friends are gonna tell them about it.
Just think of the shit that you look at.
I mean, think of the shit that every day I'm posting some new ridiculous video.
Someone doing something stupid and getting brain damage.
unidentified
It's a bummer.
brendan schaub
Good luck keeping it out of your kids' hands.
Ninth grade or nine years old is what grade?
joe rogan
3rd?
And they're going into 4th?
brendan schaub
Wait till she gets to 6th grade.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think like 6th and 7th.
brendan schaub
You'd have her be the nerd in school?
Or sometimes they may have the iPads to write notes and shit.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
And those things go online.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's one of those things where you gotta wonder at what point is it okay to give it to them?
And how much do you regulate it?
And how much do you do it by example?
You know, if you're at home with your kids and, like, stay off the phone, kids, and you're just, like, constantly checking your phone, then they're going to be pissed at you.
brendan schaub
There should be no phones between whatever, you know, especially dinner time.
So, like, it's going to be a beast, man.
joe rogan
What we do with a big thing we do in my house, a lot of art.
A lot of art.
That's cool.
Constantly.
Constantly, like, they're always painting and drawing and doing shit.
If you give kids that opportunity to do something and then they get, like, in a pattern of doing it all the time.
brendan schaub
Where they're not, you know, their stimulation doesn't come on TV and their phones.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Do you like your kids watch TV or no?
joe rogan
Yeah, we let them watch TV. We don't keep it from them, but we don't let them watch it all day.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
I think especially creativity is important for kids because the more they realize they can make things, even if you could just make something out of papier-mâché or something where you're writing something, something that didn't exist.
My daughter writes stories, a story that didn't exist.
Now the story's written.
You wrote it.
You created it.
You realize you read stories, you can also write them.
Paintings.
Make a painting.
Make a drawing.
The more you realize you can create things, it's my thought that it opens up your idea of what's possible for your whole life.
You can create things in your life.
brendan schaub
You don't have to bank on anyone.
joe rogan
You can create businesses.
You can create a career.
You can figure out how to work hard at something.
I also think it's really good for their little brains to like make things.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
For me, it's weird because every morning I live across from a school.
It's an elementary school.
Yesterday was the first day of school, so there's all these parents driving off their kids.
I was watching the kids play outside.
I walk my son every morning.
I was thinking, God, how the fuck is he going to make friends?
Like, I saw all the clicks.
I've never thought about it ever, ever in my life.
I thought, how is this little dude going to make friends?
What happens if he doesn't make friends?
joe rogan
They all make friends.
brendan schaub
How the fuck does this work?
joe rogan
What are we going to do?
brendan schaub
Is he going to be the nerd?
unidentified
What are we going to do?
joe rogan
You can't be paranoid about that.
brendan schaub
I said, give me ten push-ups.
joe rogan
Even when they don't make friends, that's good, too.
You realize, like, what's wrong?
Like, why aren't you making friends?
Adjust your behavior accordingly.
brendan schaub
Well, don't be the introverted kid who's in balls deep into the comics, maybe.
joe rogan
Or do!
brendan schaub
Yeah, I agree.
Or do.
And then take over the world, like Hollywood.
But it's the first time it ever crossed my mind.
I saw all these kids playing, I thought, what happens if he doesn't make friends?
I gotta deal with that.
joe rogan
What are you gonna do if your son gets older and he is sort of introverted, kind of nerdy, And you see some predatory bitch move in.
What if your son becomes like some super successful producer type character?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you see some predatory coyote type woman move in, just runs him, tells him what to do all the time.
Oh my god.
You see it, you go over the house, and you're like, son, you can't let her tell you what to do.
brendan schaub
There's nothing you can do.
There's the power of the pussy.
There's nothing you can do.
joe rogan
Do you know that feeling that you have when a friend, when you see a friend is getting taken over?
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Almost like a pod person.
You know, like one of them Night of the Living Dead?
No, not Night of the Living Dead.
brendan schaub
It's like Avatar.
joe rogan
What is that fucking movie?
Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
brendan schaub
Remember?
joe rogan
The pod was under the bed.
Never saw the movie?
No.
Dude.
Well, there's a couple versions of it.
There's a really, really old version from like the 50s.
brendan schaub
What's the new one?
joe rogan
Well, there's three.
There's a Donald Sutherland version, which is, I think, I want to say like the 70s, which is excellent.
A young Jeff Goldblum's in that movie.
It's great.
It's a great movie.
And it's creepy.
It's scary.
And, you know, good special effects for the time.
And then there's a more recent one with...
Jennifer Tilly, I think, is in it.
Or Meg Tilly.
Meg Tilly.
Jennifer Tilly's sister.
And their pods?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, what it is is, while you're sleeping, it somehow or another, like, the fibers get a hold of you.
Like, it climbs up, like, if the pod's, like, near the bed.
It gets a hold of you and touches you, and then it puts you to sleep and starts replicating you underneath the bed.
So, like, while you're sleeping, it's, like, draining your body and replicating you, and then in the morning, you're dead.
You're like a dry husk.
brendan schaub
But then there's a new guy.
joe rogan
And this alien is underneath.
Yeah.
So this is Donald Sutherland.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
As he's asleep, this thing was taking over and recreating him, and he woke up before it was too late.
brendan schaub
That's cool, man.
joe rogan
Dude, it was a dope movie.
brendan schaub
That's Kiefer Sutherland's dad.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
I didn't even know that.
No wonder why Keith and Sutherland were fucked up.
His dad was Donald Sutherland.
brendan schaub
That's Jack Bauer, right?
joe rogan
If you grow up and your dad's a famous actor and you become an actor yourself, you're going to be fucked up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're going to be a little weird.
joe rogan
That's the end.
brendan schaub
Oh, that must be the new one right there.
That poster?
joe rogan
Mmm, what is that one?
Invasion of the Bisexuals.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
1978. No, that must be the 78 version.
Because the newer ones...
Oh, the newer one is below that, in green.
See it in green down there?
No, that's the really old one.
That's the 1950s one.
brendan schaub
Dude, it looks pretty sweet.
joe rogan
There was one more that happened with Meg Tilly.
I don't remember what year, but I want to say it's like...
Maybe late 90s?
brendan schaub
I'm surprised they don't recreate it already.
joe rogan
Yeah, there she is.
The Age of the Body Snatchers.
The Dork Report.
jamie vernon
Body Snatchers.
joe rogan
Oh, it's just called Body Snatchers?
Really?
Oh.
Really?
I'll check that shit out.
brendan schaub
Do you know what movie was...
joe rogan
That's the porn version.
brendan schaub
Body extension.
You know what movie was dope?
I watched it on the plane.
1993?
joe rogan
1993. Okay.
That was pretty good.
But it's one of those things, you don't remake those things so many times.
What was dope?
brendan schaub
I watched that movie with Ben Affleck where he moves to Tampa.
He's like a mafia gangster, moves to Tampa.
joe rogan
The accountant?
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
See?
I thought it was accounting.
I was taking sleeping pills, so I was a little out of it.
I thought it was the counting, and I was like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
The accountant.
brendan schaub
The accountant.
And I was like, that's not this.
It was something else.
That shit was so good.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's like, he's involved with a mob, and they want him to go run the Tampa Bay wing of it.
So he goes down there.
Oh, fuck, it was good.
joe rogan
Huh.
brendan schaub
Oh, man, it was fucking classic.
joe rogan
Was it?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
How high were you?
You were high as a kite.
brendan schaub
I might have been.
joe rogan
Some fucking ambient and shit.
brendan schaub
Dude, they don't work on me.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
I took them in Australia, and people are like, only take one.
I was like, I'm not that sleepy, so I'd pop three of them.
I was fucking one eye open.
Just like Ben Affleck's the best ever.
joe rogan
Live by Matt.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
6.4 on Rotten Tomatoes.
brendan schaub
People are fucking haters when I break on Affleck.
You fucking haters.
joe rogan
They are haters on Affleck.
brendan schaub
Why do people hate on Affleck?
Good Will Hunting?
joe rogan
Seems like a douche, though.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
joe rogan
Did you ever see his argument with Sam Harris on the Bill Maher show?
brendan schaub
No, I haven't.
joe rogan
Very uninformed.
Huge mistake.
He argued with Sam Harris about what's in Islam.
brendan schaub
Well, hey, Ben Affleck.
Listen, I'm not going to say stay in your lane.
I'm all over the place.
But with Ben Affleck...
Sam Harris?
joe rogan
You've never seen it?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
It's hilarious because Affleck doesn't know what to do, so he goes full social justice warrior and starts calling Sam Harris a racist and saying it's gross.
You're so gross.
It's so racist.
He has no idea what he's doing.
And then Sam Harris is like super calm.
He's the problem.
You can't yell and argue with Harris because he will never go there.
brendan schaub
It makes you look super amateur.
joe rogan
Especially when he starts spouting out facts and explaining.
We're talking about an ideology.
brendan schaub
Did Ben Affleck go on there to debate him?
joe rogan
I think what it was is he was getting ready for Batman.
This is my personal belief.
It has no basis in fact, and it's just pure speculation.
unidentified
Bro, science.
joe rogan
I think he was on steroids.
I think he was on steroids getting ready for Batman.
brendan schaub
He got jacked for Batman.
joe rogan
He got jacked.
And I think when you get jacked like that, you get a little fucking testy!
You racist!
brendan schaub
He had no data.
Just, fuck you, bro!
joe rogan
Well, he tried to sling a little data.
With Sam Harris?
And he just got run over.
brendan schaub
Oh my god, what are you thinking?
joe rogan
He just got run over.
And everybody was super mad at him afterwards.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
It was like, oh yeah, online, they got torn apart.
They just handled it very poorly.
brendan schaub
See, I don't get the hate, well obviously he fucked up there, but I don't get the hate with Ben Affleck.
He makes good movies.
Geely, alright, you fucked up.
joe rogan
Because people see that and they go, ooh, that's the real you.
brendan schaub
Well that's him, but is it the real you?
Or is that him Bruce Wayne on steroids?
unidentified
Could be.
joe rogan
I would think that.
I've never seen him behave like that before, and he definitely got jacked for that movie.
And when you're 45 years old or whatever he is, you just don't get jacked like that.
brendan schaub
No, you don't put it on muscle like that.
That's not normal.
joe rogan
It's not normal.
Unless you're on some radical supplements.
brendan schaub
Which, if Hollywood called me and was like, okay, why don't you be Bruce Wayne, I'm going to get on that Gotham City cycle.
joe rogan
I'm going to get on some of that Clembutrol to lower my body fat.
brendan schaub
Oh, I'm calling.
joe rogan
Get all fucking Anivard up.
brendan schaub
Oh, release the hounds.
They won't even need a mask.
It's just going to be fucking legit.
joe rogan
Look at that.
He gained 20 pounds, 228 pounds total, got down to 7.9% body fat.
Ben Affleck's trainer, Walter Norton Jr., talks about Ben Affleck's body during the days filming The Town.
He lost 12 pounds for the town.
He was stronger in every lift.
brendan schaub
Hey, Walter Norton Jr., how about you tell us the cycle he's on?
Cut the bullshit.
joe rogan
Tell me the truth about testosterone.
Is there a photo of him with his shirt off at 7.9% body fat?
Because I think I'm calling bullshit on that.
unidentified
Me too.
brendan schaub
You know how low that is?
joe rogan
It's very low.
He never got that ripped.
He wasn't even as ripped as the last Batman.
brendan schaub
Christian Bale?
joe rogan
Yeah, Christian Bale's more ripped.
brendan schaub
Christian Bale's like a coat hanger, though.
He's real thin.
joe rogan
No, he got jacked.
unidentified
He's huge.
brendan schaub
He's always thin.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
unidentified
Low body fat.
brendan schaub
He's an ectomorph.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't think he's an ectomorph.
unidentified
You don't think so?
joe rogan
I think he's a mesomorph.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, let's look at him.
We'll look at him next, but I think you're wrong on that.
Wow.
Let's...
You see, you got a good picture?
Pull it up so we can see.
jamie vernon
I mean, there's...
joe rogan
Show us.
What do we got here?
No, that's not good.
Shirtless.
brendan schaub
Is that him in a tank top?
joe rogan
That him right there?
brendan schaub
He's fucking jacked.
joe rogan
There's one right there.
brendan schaub
That's The Rock.
unidentified
Oh, that's The Rock's body.
brendan schaub
That's The Rock.
joe rogan
Oh, that's fake.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's The Rock's tattoos.
joe rogan
We'll go up to the one right there.
jamie vernon
That's not him either.
That's Superman.
joe rogan
Is it?
brendan schaub
Goddamn Superman.
Oh, here he is.
joe rogan
Superman's jacked.
Ben Affleck is kinda sorta jacked.
Ben Affleck's shirtless.
brendan schaub
That's Ben Affleck fucking dad mode, though.
That's not him shirtless.
joe rogan
What's that right there?
jamie vernon
That's still Superman.
brendan schaub
That's Wolverine.
jamie vernon
There he is right there.
brendan schaub
Let me see.
jamie vernon
Don't know when that was.
joe rogan
I'm not buying it.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Not buying it.
I don't give a fuck if that was ten years ago.
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Let me stop this right now.
That is so not 7.9% body fat.
Go back to those pictures of him right there.
That is not even remotely 7. That's not even teens.
brendan schaub
That's more like 20. Yeah.
jamie vernon
This is an Argo.
joe rogan
Okay.
Different movie.
brendan schaub
Good movie.
joe rogan
Upper right-hand corner.
Upper right-hand corner.
brendan schaub
No, that's not him, son.
That's the wolf from True Blood.
joe rogan
Jacked.
jamie vernon
Joe Manganiello.
joe rogan
Why are they lying here?
Ben Affleck is ripped, sexy.
brendan schaub
No, Chris Pratt got jacked.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's real.
That's him right there.
Ben Affleck?
brendan schaub
That's Chris Pratt.
joe rogan
See, that's not really that jacked.
There was a scene of him in...
That's how he used to be.
He used to be fat.
brendan schaub
I mean, he looks pretty good.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's not like The Rock jacked.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ, Joe.
The Rock?
That's the level...
joe rogan
Okay, that's fake.
All these are fake pictures.
Who's that guy?
brendan schaub
That's American.
joe rogan
Is that him in Batman?
That's a suit, though.
brendan schaub
He has a suit, son.
joe rogan
He's got a bullshit suit on.
brendan schaub
Oh, go to homeboy there.
jamie vernon
Gyllenhaal?
brendan schaub
Yes, Jake Gyllenhaal.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, he did get jacked.
brendan schaub
You know who else got...
joe rogan
Is that really Jake Gyllenhaal right there?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Goddamn homeboy.
brendan schaub
See, that would be 7% body fat.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
That's what it looks like.
That's what 7% looks like.
joe rogan
Go back to him.
Now you're going to gay porn, Jamie.
Stop it.
jamie vernon
I'm just seeing who it is.
brendan schaub
I'm just seeing who it is.
jamie vernon
Could have been Affleck or something.
joe rogan
See if it's a guy I jerk off to.
No, he's fucking super jacked.
brendan schaub
That's like 7% there.
7% is so unheard of.
joe rogan
That looks like a guy who's fighting in the UFC right now.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Jake Gyllenhaal is one of my faves.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, that's the kind of dedication that I don't Dude, I don't know if you can get down to that.
brendan schaub
Good Will Hunting, you did.
joe rogan
Never saw that.
brendan schaub
I've never seen that.
That's some shit.
joe rogan
Now, go to Christian Bale.
See?
Much more jacked.
There's some good pictures of Christian Bale jacked.
Type in Christian Bale jacked.
That's pretty good right there.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, he just looked more like a guy who could really fuck you up than I feel like Ben Affleck looks.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
No disrespect, man.
No disrespect.
Like right there, upper left-hand corner.
brendan schaub
Oh, Ryan Reynolds, first team all body.
joe rogan
He's pretty fucking jacked right there.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he is.
joe rogan
I mean, that looks like a real Batman.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That's The Machinist.
That was like one of the worst movies he ever did in terms of like the reception it got.
How many people watched it?
It wasn't bad.
It was really weird.
But the difference between being the skinny guy on the right hand side, which was like him dying.
I mean, he essentially starved himself almost to death.
And then a few months later, he's the guy on the left.
That's him in the movie.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, he played a guy with narcolepsy that couldn't sleep and didn't eat.
Look how skinny he got, man.
brendan schaub
How good of an actor is that fucking dude?
joe rogan
I don't know if that's acting.
That's just being a psycho.
brendan schaub
That's dedication to your craft.
joe rogan
Your craft is starving to death.
You're really good at it.
brendan schaub
I mean, the mental willpower?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
But it's really bad for your body.
And it's not good enough of a movie.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'll tell you who got jacked was Ryan Reynolds.
joe rogan
Oh, he's jacked.
brendan schaub
For Blade 2. First T-ball body.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's right.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he jacked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But why wouldn't you do that?
If you're playing a fake character, I don't get why you wouldn't do a nice cycle.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
Or you do the...
Yeah, he was jacked.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or you do the Gerard thing.
What's that guy's name from 300?
brendan schaub
Gerard Butler?
joe rogan
Yeah, they just CGI the fuck out of you.
brendan schaub
I heard a hilarious story with that.
Where on 300, you know, they're making the movie and everyone's doing CrossFit nonstop doing the Spartan workouts and Butler's not showing up.
And they're like, what the fuck, man?
He's like, I'm not doing this.
I don't want to do that.
He goes, just tell me when I have to be ready.
I will be ready by any means necessary.
Like, really?
He's like, I got this.
And then didn't do what everyone else did and came fucking...
unidentified
Spartan, Spartan, Spartan, Spartan.
brendan schaub
Killed it.
joe rogan
Is that really what his body actually looked like?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
But now he's fucking bitches, and they're like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
He was super jacked, and then he let himself go.
Wow, it's hard to maintain that fucking thing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you can't maintain that.
joe rogan
How much is what he really looked like?
Oh, go upper left-hand corner.
Yeah, what's that?
Okay, that's more realistic.
brendan schaub
No, there's even a better one.
Oh, look at that one.
Set of tits on him.
joe rogan
Let himself go.
brendan schaub
Imagine if you're a girl and you think you're fucking 300 and you get to like, God damn!
300 pounds?
joe rogan
And you feel that gut resting on the top of your ass while he banged you from behind.
Like this here.
brendan schaub
Hold up, girl.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
What up with the Spartan life?
joe rogan
Hoist that fucker up.
brendan schaub
It's a movie, bitch.
joe rogan
Drop it down there.
brendan schaub
Oh, God.
joe rogan
You go halfway limp because you're doing coke all night.
unidentified
Woo!
brendan schaub
Just the worst night of your life.
joe rogan
What you gonna do when they come for you?
Brett and Sean, we gotta get out of here and get another podcast.
brendan schaub
We do.
joe rogan
That was fun, man.
Just flew by.
That was three hours, man.
brendan schaub
Was it three hours?
joe rogan
Fucking flew by.
Goddamn, it was awesome.
brendan schaub
We talked some Mayweather.
joe rogan
We definitely talked some Mayweather-McGregor.
We probably made some MMA sites some awesome headlines.
brendan schaub
Do you have any prediction on it?
Just, you can't...
What do you think?
In your heart of hearts?
joe rogan
This is what I like.
I like shocking results.
A shocking result is Mayweather comes out there, underestimates Conor McGregor, and Conor puts him at the fucking end of the rainbow.
brendan schaub
I love that.
joe rogan
He's dancing with the leprechauns in a pot of gold.
unidentified
How did I get here?
joe rogan
Because he's in fucking dreamland because he face planted.
That's the exciting result.
The exciting result is Conor McGregor becomes the greatest athlete the world has ever known and the most famous guy of all time and MMA wins.
brendan schaub
I agree with you.
Love it, man.
joe rogan
Love you.
That was awesome.
brendan schaub
You're the best, man.
joe rogan
You're the best!
How can I be the best when you're the best?
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