July 3, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:15:28
Participants
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| Rosé, because then we won't get shit-faced. | ||
| No, I told Joe, and also it occurred to me, Joe probably has all this other shit. | ||
| He's not gonna have rosé. | ||
| So we should show up with rosé? | ||
| I definitely wouldn't have rosé. | ||
| We're live. | ||
| Rosé is not my thing, but I'm not an anti-rosé person. | ||
| I'll drink a fucking peanut colada after the moment presents itself. | ||
| How did it go in there? | ||
| You just enjoyed it, right? | ||
| Yeah, it was good. | ||
| I like your rosé. | ||
| It's lovely. | ||
| It's a good summertime beverage. | ||
| Would everybody like some Jack Daniels? | ||
| It's single malt. | ||
| Hold on, let me chug this rosé first. | ||
| What does that even mean? | ||
| It's just in one of those barrels. | ||
| Oh, one barrel. | ||
| One barrel. | ||
| One barrel at a time. | ||
| You move it around a bunch of barrels? | ||
| Double barrel, yeah, you re-barrel that shit. | ||
| Like a fucking shotgun? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I've listened to the Jimi Hendrix Live Machine Gun, you know that song? | ||
| God damn, that's one of those songs where sometimes you hear it and you just go, oh wow, like I've maybe been missing out on how good this fucking song is. | ||
| Yeah, he's conjuring shit up. | ||
| It's just so good. | ||
| Is it off that Band of Gypsies record? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, it's all live. | ||
| I almost just stopped myself from saying fuck and then I realized where we were. | ||
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Wow, that's so sweet. | |
| Have we ever fucked that one up on the real radio? | ||
| On the censored radio? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But there's this song called The Power of Love. | ||
| Sorry, I just want to keep talking about Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| It's the fourth track that's fucking insane. | ||
| I mean, all this stuff's insane, but there's this tone that he hits that just like carves a piece out of your soul. | ||
| When I used to work with Phil Hartman, he told me a story about when he was at the Whiskey. | ||
| And I think he was a teenager still. | ||
| I think Phil was like 18 or 19 or something. | ||
| And he was working as like a stagehand. | ||
| His job was to hold up the speaker while Jimi Hendrix was on stage because the stage was so small and the speaker was kind of rocking so he had to stand there Stand there and hold up the speaker. | ||
| He said Jimi Hendrix was five feet in front of me. | ||
| He said it was fucking incredible When Hendrix was just sort of becoming Hendrix So early. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We could go back over when he died and when, you know, he would have been like 18 or 19, but I don't remember the exact age. | ||
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He died in the 70s. | |
| He died in 1970. Okay. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, pretty sure. | ||
| Damn, look at you, Encyclopedia Ben. | ||
| I loved her. | ||
| Ben Tannica? | ||
| Hartman died in like, I think, 98. So, whatever that was, those 20 years before that. | ||
| So it would have been like in the early 70s, I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That doesn't make sense, actually. | ||
| I wish we could go back in time and experience music like in the 60s and 70s when it was just like everything was new. | ||
| You'd never heard anything like that before. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| That was the first time they got real drugs. | ||
| Wait, what were the demonic chords, Ben? | ||
| We were talking about this the other day. | ||
| That was a long time ago. | ||
| Is this like Renaissance time? | ||
| That was like the 1600s. | ||
| There was chords they thought to be demonic? | ||
| Yeah, they were evil. | ||
| If they heard the shit we played today, it would be like, you'd be burned at the stake. | ||
| Well, I think it would be mind-blowing. | ||
| Oh yeah, fuck that. | ||
| He would have been toast! | ||
| Well, just the beginning of Voodoo Child. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
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You hear that? | |
| I never get sick of that. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Well, you really stop and think about it. | ||
| There was a clear evolution, right? | ||
| There was a bunch of shit going on. | ||
| There was Chuck Berry, and there was Little Richard, and then there was Elvis, and there was all these rock and roll guys, and then... | ||
| All of a sudden, there's this eruption out of that, and it's Led Zeppelin, and it's The Who, and it's Hendrix, and it's people that were just on a completely different level. | ||
| Queen? | ||
| Queen in their prime? | ||
| But it's interesting. | ||
| Zeppelin was all blues music. | ||
| They kind of stole a lot of shit. | ||
| They stole a lot of shit. | ||
| That's fucked up, isn't it? | ||
| It's fucked up that they are dicks about him. | ||
| But it's not out of the ordinary, because all those dudes are just playing each other's songs anyway. | ||
| That is a giant problem. | ||
| If you're the guy who created the opening riff to Stairway to Heaven, it's about your song, and then you try to do it. | ||
| Well, the other side of that spectrum is really fucked up, though, too, because now you're in this game where, like, if you play anything remotely sounds like that, you'll get sued. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And at this point, like... | ||
| I mean, I don't rip off songs from other people. | ||
| We don't do that. | ||
| But you could write a song and then not know that it had a similar thing, similar melody, and somebody could come after you. | ||
| And that fucking blows. | ||
| We were just talking about that Bittersweet Symphony song from The Verve, how they gave all their money to the Rolling Stones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because the opening riff was too similar, which is crazy. | ||
| It's a sample, isn't it? | ||
| It might be, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of Andrew Lou Oldham produced the Stones and did all these orchestrations for them, and they just... | ||
| Oh, they just sampled it. | ||
| Now, how does that work, though? | ||
| That seems kind of crazy that you give it all the money. | ||
| I don't mind you giving them money. | ||
| I'm sure they didn't give all of it. | ||
| I mean, they had publishing on their actual song, right? | ||
| Is that different? | ||
| I don't know the facts. | ||
| Is it different, like, as a musician? | ||
| Do you feel like that feels different if someone just uses, like, if someone heard Ice Ice Baby, they knew it was under pressure, right? | ||
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That's sick. | |
| Right? | ||
| I mean, it's almost like it's not hurting the original song. | ||
| Well, it's almost like a collaboration at that point, because your song was inspired by another song, and obviously there's credit due for that, but it's just an interesting way that the pie gets cut up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the way people just tenaciously hold onto their piece in this way that... | ||
| I don't know, it really bums me out, to be honest. | ||
| I mean, obviously you need to get paid and make a living, but... | ||
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Inspirationally speaking it just the barometer is just so like people just go so far off The course in order to get credit and money for things that it's just bullshit But I think it's so difficult you were just talking about that in there It's so difficult to have a career that keeps paying you right if anybody has something that's close to To the sun. | |
| You're just like, that's it. | ||
| Because that's the only way I'm going to be able to fucking afford this house. | ||
| The music business in particular, or I shouldn't say the music business, because I never really say the comedy business. | ||
| I would say the comedy world. | ||
| Because I think you guys are like the closest to big business in the way like your contracts are. | ||
| You always hear like these nightmare contracts. | ||
| You're like, Jesus. | ||
| Like for us... | ||
| We've never made money doing anything but performing. | ||
| So no one ever, like, got a grip of the other stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, with musicians, you guys all made a lot of money selling actual albums back in the day. | ||
| Well, we don't, but... | ||
| But, I mean, musicians. | ||
| It could have... | ||
| Well, comedy artists, too, right? | ||
| But I guess they always went through record labels. | ||
| Yeah, but there was no money in it. | ||
| There was no... | ||
| I mean, I should say, like, a few guys made money. | ||
| Like, Dane Cook probably made a ton of money. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because he had the biggest selling comedy album of all time. | ||
| His was, like... | ||
| Is at least platinum. | ||
| It might have went double platinum. | ||
| Do you get paid as an actor at that point? | ||
| Or is it like... | ||
| No, he must have had a deal with the record company unless he released it himself. | ||
| Some people can release their stuff themselves, but I don't know how that works. | ||
| Oh, this is audio. | ||
| You mean this isn't like a live DVD? Okay. | ||
| No, but as soon as it gets to be a live DVD, there's two options. | ||
| One is you could pay for it all yourself, pay for the filming, and then sell it to whatever organization, whether it's Netflix or what have you, or Comedy Central. | ||
| You could do it that way. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Both of them went platinum. | ||
| The first two. | ||
| They both went platinum. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| See, that's huge sales. | ||
| $1,215,000 and $1,264,000 for the second one. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| Like, for a stand-up comedian to sell that many albums, it was a real phenomenon. | ||
| And people actually bought them. | ||
| You had to pay for that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I wonder what was number one. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| 2003? | ||
| U.S. comedy number one and two. | ||
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Would that have been Dave Chappelle? | |
| Look, he's right there, number one. | ||
| The second one. | ||
| Yeah, that's 2003. That's the highest it ever got was number two. | ||
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Oh! | |
| So someone out-peaked old Dave chart positions. | ||
| Did Dave Chappelle do live audio? | ||
| He didn't have records. | ||
| So that was number one on the comedy charts or was number one period? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| What the fuck would be number two if his was number one? | ||
| This one made it number four in the whole US chart overall. | ||
| Wow, that's crazy. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| That's giant. | ||
| So that's it. | ||
| Like, I didn't make shit. | ||
| I mean, I made some money. | ||
| I had a record on Warner Brothers in 1999. Good year. | ||
| It was a good year. | ||
| Is it like a space monkey thing? | ||
| No, that was called I'm Gonna Be Dead Someday. | ||
| That was my first thing. | ||
| And then the next one was Shiny Happy Jihad. | ||
| And then Talking Monkeys in Space. | ||
| We need to get our collection for the road travels. | ||
| I'll hook you guys up. | ||
| Hook that shit up, man. | ||
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Get on the Spotify. | |
| How many albums do you guys have now? | ||
| Trace albums. | ||
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Trace. | |
| But we're releasing solo records this year, so it's been really interesting. | ||
| We're working together and separately. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You guys keeping it together or you get weird with each other? | ||
| All the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
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Both, yeah. | |
| Both. | ||
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But that is the way it has always been and possibly always will be. | |
| I feel like as long as everyone's kind, it's unavoidable and it's like part of the process of dealing with people. | ||
| People get on each other's nerves. | ||
| We definitely act like shitheads and then we have these moments of great communication. | ||
| Well, that's the end goal. | ||
| But I think I can say that our relationship has made my other relationships in my life so much better because you have to administer patience and listen and really just have, you know... | ||
| It's hard for people, right? | ||
| Yeah, well, you gotta learn how to be wrong, you know, and say you're sorry when you fuck up. | ||
| Like, I'm sorry. | ||
| I was wrong. | ||
| That was stupid of me. | ||
| I shouldn't have said that. | ||
| It's also there's a balancing act that some people never achieve of listening to someone and thinking about what they're saying and then responding because of that or just saying what's on your mind. | ||
| There's this balancing act. | ||
| Sometimes you just want to say what's on your mind. | ||
| Sometimes you have to absorb what this person is saying to you, and then you have to respect it and address it and try to figure out how, as a person that cares about them, what's the best way to get out what you're thinking. | ||
| Sometimes you don't do that. | ||
| And then you have to deal with emotions happening at the same goddamn time, which completely changed the way you could speak and move. | ||
| Something that... | ||
| Just cracked his open. | ||
| Yeah, I got a great therapist. | ||
| I love her so much. | ||
| And she, you know, accepting people is a huge deal. | ||
| And just saying, hey, you and I have very different truths. | ||
| Or like, you know, not you and I, but anyone. | ||
| And... | ||
| When you're arguing with somebody or you're in disagreement, what is true to them could be completely different to you. | ||
| But if you just fight that and keep fighting that, you're going to be so fucked. | ||
| And there's no peace involved in that scenario. | ||
| So just accepting your differences is half the battle. | ||
| How do we relay your message to the rest of the world and solve this fucking problem? | ||
| What's the problem? | ||
| The world's in conflict. | ||
| Learn how to say you're sorry. | ||
| Learn how to be wrong. | ||
| Gotta speak your language first. | ||
| And then listen to each other for crying out loud. | ||
| I think that's so important. | ||
| I feel like people want to be right. | ||
| Politics right now are just such a shit show. | ||
| And if I try to stay on board, I just get so exhausted because it's never ending. | ||
| There's no moment of peace. | ||
| It's like, okay, now I'm going to piss. | ||
| Now you're going to piss. | ||
| Now I'm going to piss. | ||
| And we're just going to keep pissing. | ||
| And it just doesn't... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm really annoyed with all of that. | ||
| I can't stand it. | ||
| Did you see what that shit poster guy, Baked Alaska, did? | ||
| He posted a tweet that somehow he was proud that the president was shitposting. | ||
| You know what the president did, what Trump did? | ||
| He took that meme of him, slamming the guy with a CNN head. | ||
| And this Baked Alaska guy who's like a famous shit poster. | ||
| Do you know what a shit poster is? | ||
| They say like ridiculous shit and they're memes and they fuck with people and they get people upset. | ||
| It's pretty funny stuff. | ||
| I'm so honored to live in a country where our president is shitposting on Twitter. | ||
| It really makes the world a better place. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Baked Alaska. | ||
| It's fucking funny, man. | ||
| He had the funniest meme about Alex Jones, and I didn't know it was his, and I posted it on my Instagram. | ||
| Somebody sent it to me. | ||
| I didn't know who it was, and I posted it, and then he got mad at me, and he said I was stealing jokes. | ||
| But if I had known it was his, I definitely would have given him credit. | ||
| But the meme is hilarious. | ||
| It's him in the hot tub. | ||
| What's the one with Alex Jones in a hot tub? | ||
| When everybody wants to chill, but you're so woke you can't help drop truth bombs? | ||
| It's Alex Jones in a hot tub with sunglasses on. | ||
| It's just such a perfect meme for Alex. | ||
| That's a real art form, the funny meme. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, agreed. | |
| It really is. | ||
| And it's not, they're getting fucked. | ||
| You want to talk about people getting fucked? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The creators of the funny memes. | ||
| The memists? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like, there it is. | ||
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What was that? | |
| People try to relax, but you're so woke, you just have to drop another truth bomb. | ||
| Look at him with his sunglasses on. | ||
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I love Alex. | |
| Dude, he is red. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Well, that might be a filter. | ||
| Instagram uses a lot of filters to make you look unhealthy. | ||
| Isn't there a lot of shaming with the meme stuff though now? | ||
| It's like if you start stealing people's memes, you're a target. | ||
| Well, yeah, but the problem is a lot of people are still not aware. | ||
| There's a lot of people that have become famous because they have websites, and their pages get millions and millions and millions of followers, and all they're doing is stealing people's memes. | ||
| And some of them have been forced to credit people, and some of them just sort of like that fat Jewish guy. | ||
| He just sort of writes the person who created its name in the comic. | ||
| He got in big trouble, though. | ||
| He got in trouble. | ||
| Yeah, he got caught. | ||
| How do you recover from that? | ||
| You don't in my book, but it's the Wild West. | ||
| I mean, that's what it is. | ||
| It's like no one knew how... | ||
| I mean, if you send me something, it's really hilarious. | ||
| And then, like, Eddie Bravo just sent me one on Bill Cosby. | ||
| I don't think I could share it. | ||
| It's fucked up enough. | ||
| I could show it to you, but he sends it to me, and I'm like, I don't know who the fuck came up with it, you know? | ||
| It says, when you realize building a wall fucks your quaalude supply. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh, that face. | ||
| I know who made that. | ||
| I was going to say, did Eddie make that? | ||
| He might have. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Eddie does a lot of funny shit. | ||
| He might have made that himself. | ||
| But I don't know who made that. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So when something like that happens, he sends it to me. | ||
| I might send it to Jamie. | ||
| Jamie might send it to Brendan. | ||
| Well, when you make it, can you put your... | ||
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There it is. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| He might have... | ||
| I mean, Eddie might have made that. | ||
| That's going to haunt my dreams. | ||
| But... | ||
| The point is, like... | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| How does someone... | ||
| I mean, it's so easy to make one of those, but it's a really funny joke. | ||
| Like, how does someone, like, claim that? | ||
| Well, I was going to say, can you put your stamp... | ||
| Like, can you do, like, a watermark thing? | ||
| Your icon, I guess. | ||
| Or, like... | ||
| That seems annoying, though. | ||
| You'd have to do that. | ||
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It's super annoying. | |
| All this shit is annoying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you, Ben, had an Instagram page and you started putting up those memes, people would steal them. | ||
| But if you made your own, if you just decided, you know what, as an exercise, in between writing songs, I'm going to write some fucking joke memes. | ||
| Yeah, I'll meme it for a little bit. | ||
| Instagram. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think I'd struggle with that. | ||
| That's a tough one. | ||
| It'd be an issue, right? | ||
| You'd be like, these motherfuckers. | ||
| But you're already co-opting other people's images anyway, and a lot of the time, phrases and stuff like that. | ||
| It's almost like collage. | ||
| Remember when you got in that little battle with Mark Maron? | ||
| You guys got in a battle? | ||
| I got in a Twitter fight with Mark Maron. | ||
| It was a little bit of a Twitter argument. | ||
| Mark Maron, by the way, will argue with his own mom on Twitter. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| He said something about... | ||
| He said... | ||
| I don't know why this pissed me off. | ||
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He said, memes are the cancer of our culture's imagination. | |
| Oh, that's not true. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
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And I kind of sent him this tweet back that was like, yeah, you don't know. | |
| Because I was also reading this other shit. | ||
| He had a great retort, though. | ||
| You said, I don't think you know exactly what it means. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I jumped in. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Take it home. | ||
| What did you say? | ||
| No, he said... | ||
| I sent back kind of like a similarly bitchy thing because I was reading about memes in a different context. | ||
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And I was like, it's actually not what memes means all the time, Mark. | |
| And he was like, I knew exactly what it means. | ||
| And I was like, fuck, that's really funny. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| But then he went on and kind of like drove it home. | ||
| He called me a poetry assassin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I was narrow-minded, and I was like, dude, chill the fuck up. | |
| How are you narrow-minded? | ||
| Because you don't agree with his assessment of memes? | ||
| Because I went back at him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Wow, that means you're narrow-minded. | ||
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We had some friends jumping in and being like, hey, honey, honey, you're great. | |
| That was a great moment, because Vernon Reed from his vehicle In Living Color chimed in and stood up. | ||
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He was my knight in shining light. | |
| I think we as human beings have to resist. | ||
| Memes are the cancer cells and the cultural imagination. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| And by the way, you know what I hate about it the most? | ||
| No capital letter, no period. | ||
| No! | ||
| You can't do that! | ||
| We were on tour when this was happening, and we were like, I don't know. | ||
| It's a cool man, but sorry, but you're wrong. | ||
| So I definitely can't claim any victory. | ||
| So I think we had to pull over. | ||
| We had to pull over so we could figure out what to do. | ||
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You might as well have a cigarette holder if you're writing that. | |
| You should have a black turtleneck and a cigarette holder. | ||
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No, it's bullshit. | |
| Ben, I'm proud of you. | ||
| You should be listening to jazz if you write that. | ||
| What's wrong with jazz? | ||
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Nothing. | |
| Jazz is great. | ||
| But there's some people that listen to jazz just so people know they're listening to jazz. | ||
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Oh, that's fucked up. | |
| You know that guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know that guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's that guy. | ||
| So, I just remembered there's this great... | ||
| You said Little Richard and Jimi Hendrix before? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jimi Hendrix was in Little Richard's band. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I forgot about that. | ||
| Before he was, you know, what he was. | ||
| Oh, I think I've read that. | ||
| And there's this great fucking interview with Little Richard talking about Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| Just high as a kite. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And also, how about Jerry Lee Lewis? | ||
| Jerry Lee Lewis fucking killed how many wives? | ||
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Oh my God! | |
| Didn't he kill a couple of them? | ||
| He said, he made my toe go up my boot. | ||
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What? | |
| Heroin. | ||
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Everybody is a star. | |
| The only problem is some people haven't been put in the dipper and pulled back on the world. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| That's what the answer is. | ||
| Jesus, Little Richard's amazing. | ||
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That's what the answer is. | |
| So you got to be placed into the dipper and pulled back down on the world. | ||
| And then men will see your good works and glorify God, Jehovah. | ||
| Jimi Hendrix could play that rock and roll. | ||
| I used to be singing rock and roll. | ||
| Be gone. | ||
| He have that thing just romping and topping all up under my toes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| At time he used to make my big toe shoot up in my boot. | ||
| He did it so good. | ||
| He gave it all to you. | ||
| And that's what you want. | ||
| You want it all or none? | ||
| Can I just pause this right here? | ||
| Literature is what every gay man should aspire to. | ||
| Just be so fucking fabulous that you are undeniable. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| And Freddie Mercury, we were talking about him earlier. | ||
| Have you seen those mid-70s shit? | ||
| And it blows my mind. | ||
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I haven't seen anything. | |
| Because the dude is in a... | ||
| He looks like Lord Farquaad, if that means anything to anybody. | ||
| But he's tall, and he's got this skin-tight white suit, and it's mid-70s, and he's gay, and his dick is just like, boom! | ||
| Like, you can just see his dick. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| If you did that now, you'd be done. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Yes, you can. | ||
| Who does that? | ||
| Who is up on stage with their dick hanging out? | ||
| Was it actually hanging out? | ||
| Literally, you're just like, oh, there's his dick. | ||
| No, you mean like outside of his pants, you're saying? | ||
| No. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, dude, you're not doing a good job with this. | ||
| Clearly presented. | ||
| Here, let me clear this up. | ||
| It doesn't need to be outside. | ||
| It's a transparent material. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Like a stocking? | ||
| If Justin Timberlake did that, it would be all fucking over. | ||
| Justin, if you're listening, you should do this. | ||
|
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You should do that, Justin. | |
| Yeah, do it. | ||
|
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See what happens. | |
| Express yourself. | ||
| See what happens. | ||
| Get those feet moving fast. | ||
| Some of us want to know. | ||
| No, but I just thought it was crazy that it was so different that people were somehow accepting, you know. | ||
| So is it pantyhose? | ||
| Like, what is he? | ||
| He's got this, like, skin-tight bodysuit. | ||
| Right, and what color is it? | ||
| White. | ||
| But how did it make you feel? | ||
| Pure white. | ||
| I was fascinated. | ||
| So you're looking at his dick as if he was wearing tight underwear, right? | ||
| It's beyond that. | ||
| Beyond that. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| What about Magic Mike? | ||
| It's a live DVD. What about stuff like that? | ||
| Like what? | ||
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Magic Mike? | |
| But that's a movie about people stripping. | ||
| This is a live concert in front of people. | ||
| Anybody can fucking go. | ||
| And the dude's just like, bam! | ||
| Dick out. | ||
| Yeah, it just shocked me. | ||
| And inspired me. | ||
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How is this going to affect your solo record released this fall? | |
| Remember those old Led Zeppelin pictures where Robert Plant would have his hog tucked up on the side of his leg? | ||
| I mean, what are you going to do? | ||
| You can't lie about that. | ||
| You can't fake that. | ||
| Everybody would know. | ||
| Yeah, but when you wear underwear, it doesn't show like that, and you probably got hard before the photo. | ||
| That is a talent in and of itself, let alone the voice of an angel. | ||
| Well, if you just put a rubber band around your cock and balls right before you do it. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That looks uncomfortable. | ||
| It definitely was. | ||
| How do you walk with that? | ||
| It definitely was. | ||
| You walk, cock out. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Look at the one in the white there. | ||
| Yeah, he's drooping. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| That's his dick! | ||
| Imagine that, but if you could see the outline, there's a well-defined head that would be Freddie Mercury. | ||
| Well, then you know it's real. | ||
| Maybe not like a problem. | ||
| Put his dick to the right. | ||
| Isn't that the thing? | ||
| That you hang one way? | ||
| You can't really change it, right? | ||
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What? | |
| Like, I'm right-handed. | ||
| This is offensive. | ||
| You don't even have a penis. | ||
| You're offending me. | ||
| Well, I'm asking. | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| Show what? | ||
| Show what? | ||
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I dare you. | |
| If you were a girl and we were talking about your vagina, it would be really gross, right? | ||
| Wouldn't that be gross? | ||
| You can't ask questions about what a vagina is. | ||
| Let's talk about it. | ||
| What do you want to know? | ||
| Which way does your vagina slant? | ||
| Hank's right. | ||
| I think it's just right down the middle. | ||
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I'm perfectly proportioned. | |
| Every Robert Plant one, his dick's swinging to the left. | ||
| Maybe if it's that big, he's got to tuck it in a leg. | ||
| He's got to choose a leg, and he's just gotten comfortable. | ||
| He's got a groove on the left side where it tucks in. | ||
| I mean, if you position yourself on stage a certain way, and I mean, you guys all have dicks, right? | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| But you don't wear pants as tight as Robert Plant. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| I mean, check me out. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| He's got his pants down. | ||
| Is that a scrotum? | ||
| It says, Robert's Last Stand. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Is that a real photo? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| That's a real cover of a real album? | ||
|
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That's not one of the records. | |
| I found the blank one, and then the real one was attached to it. | ||
| Encyclopedia Ventanica. | ||
| Is that a real cover? | ||
| Oh, so in that one you actually see his dick? | ||
| Is that what the implication is? | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| I have these moments when we're podcasting where I'm like, God, I hope my parents never listen to this. | ||
| They definitely won't. | ||
| But they might really be into it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do you think, Ben? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Ray and Kath? | ||
| I've been going through a thing with my mom. | ||
| We don't really know each other that well, right? | ||
| It's the truth. | ||
| And I feel like this, she would learn a lot about me and my life. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| Should we send it to her? | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think she could handle it. | ||
| That would be horrifying. | ||
| I think she'd be freaked out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sorry, Mom. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| She loves you. | ||
| She's a delicate person. | ||
| Whenever... | ||
| I mean, especially in this day and age, whenever do you have a chance to sit and talk to someone for three hours straight like this? | ||
| It's rare. | ||
| It's sort of the cure for what ails us when it comes to communicating, like podcasts, because... | ||
| It's so informal, and it's really just like sitting down talking, which is what a lot of us don't ever have the chance to do anymore. | ||
| Everyone is always doing a million things. | ||
| You're always looking at your phone. | ||
| You're always about to go somewhere. | ||
| You got a meeting, you got a this, you got that. | ||
| When the fuck do you ever get three hours to just sit? | ||
| To just sit. | ||
| It's a special thing. | ||
| It is. | ||
| We're very excited to be here. | ||
| But isn't it crazy that just talking is a special thing? | ||
| That shows you how weird we are right now. | ||
| As human beings, as an organism that grew up in a social environment. | ||
| I mean, every person that survives that's alive today comes from a history of people that were in tribes. | ||
| We're in these little groups of people and social interaction was everything. | ||
| You had to know each other. | ||
| But so is being alone, and that doesn't happen very often either. | ||
| Someone's moody. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| No, but you're talking about devices and stuff. | ||
| I couldn't help myself. | ||
| No, I love you, but you're a dick. | ||
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I love you too. | |
| But it's true. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| We're always so busy. | ||
| There's always shit going on. | ||
| I definitely have these moments where I wasn't just sitting, not talking to someone, or looking at my phone. | ||
| I can't remember when I wasn't just moving. | ||
| And not even meditating, just sitting. | ||
| I've become super aware, at least over the last year, that there's a lot of wasted time in looking at devices and computers. | ||
| I've been real aware of it to the point where I had to weigh the benefits of it. | ||
| The benefits are pretty numerous. | ||
| I get a lot of really interesting articles off of social media and really interesting articles that I find online and really interesting, up-to-date information about space and science that's very, very valuable to me. | ||
| But then there's also a lot of scrolling through nonsense. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It's equally as fruitful as it is beguiling because you get fucked up and lost in it. | ||
| I wanted to invent this app that I think someone probably already did it, but that puts a lock on your social media. | ||
| So you only get like 20 minutes a day. | ||
| And once it's up, it's done. | ||
| They have those. | ||
| You don't want it. | ||
| You just want to develop some control. | ||
| But it's also crucial for our careers. | ||
| It's crucial to have... | ||
| Your thing is built on social media. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The thing is, though, you need time alone where you're bored. | ||
| This is what I believe. | ||
| Read a book. | ||
| I think you need time to just be able to sit and think about something or do something, like practice something. | ||
| I'm sure you guys are like this with music, right? | ||
| Ben's a great practicer. | ||
| I'm really envious of his discipline. | ||
| He practices guitar every day. | ||
| Yeah, you got to. | ||
| It's like meditation. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| Yeah, I think that there's something to that, for sure, that some people don't experience. | ||
| You put your phone over there or shut it off or put it in airplane mode and just do your thing, you know? | ||
| You know what's crazy about the practice is when you can separate... | ||
| Because it's tough because I'll have devices on my phone that help me practice. | ||
| I'll have metronomes and stuff like that. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, bing, bing, the stuff's going off. | ||
| And the difference between when I don't have... | ||
| My phone, when I'm not communicating with the social media world or texting, whatever, and when I do, it's insane. | ||
| In 20 minutes, it's like working out. | ||
| If you focus for 20 minutes, it's gonna replace three hours of shitty working out. | ||
| Am I right about that? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, it's all about how much, how deep you can go in, you know, just cognitively. | ||
| And I think, in general, people We're, like, coming to grips with this now as, like, an etiquette. | ||
| Because we didn't fucking... | ||
| Ten years ago, none of this stuff existed. | ||
| This is, like, fresh out the gate. | ||
| So we're trying to figure this out. | ||
| And there's this dude... | ||
| You just see people paying more and more attention to exactly what you're saying. | ||
| There's this guy that wrote a book called Deep Work. | ||
| And it's, like... | ||
| You need to shut off social media advice, you know, stuff, input, and allow your brain to sink down deep. | ||
| And that's where real value comes from. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's the only way to access real value. | ||
| Real value. | ||
| Where people don't even realize how it'll take over your life and your relationships. | ||
| Well, it's new. | ||
| It's too new. | ||
| It's not that new, though. | ||
| It's super new. | ||
| It's so new. | ||
| I guess it is. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| What is it like? | ||
| 1994 is the internet, right? | ||
| That's like the main spread of the internet, 94. I remember when we had Juno. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| Juno, and it was like electronic. | ||
| It wasn't email yet, even. | ||
| It was just like... | ||
| But do you understand that this is only like 10 years old? | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| With the iPhones? | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Didn't they just go through the 10th anniversary of the iPhone? | ||
| That's when it started. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Before that, there were no apps. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So if there's no apps, there's no Twitter, there's no Facebook. | ||
| Do you remember the snake game on your phone? | ||
| The snake game where it goes, it like, you just had arrows and you had to get the snake through this maze. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I don't play games on the phone. | ||
| It was a thing, Joe. | ||
| You really missed out. | ||
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I did. | |
| Okay, I'm sorry to tell you. | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| Puzzle Farter? | ||
| Puzzle Farter! | ||
| No. | ||
| Joe, come on. | ||
| Puzzle Farter? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jamie, if you find that, I swear to God, you're like, oh my God, it's amazing. | ||
| Is it worth something? | ||
| It was a thing. | ||
| Oh my God, when we did our first record. | ||
| It might have just been a thing with us. | ||
| With us. | ||
| Puzzle Farter. | ||
| You take this little character and you propel him with his own farts with your space bar and your arrows and you think it sounds stupid but you play your first game and you're just laughing. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Joe has Neil deGrasse Tyson and then he has us talking about Puzzle Farter. | ||
| Hey, live your truth. | ||
| This is who we are. | ||
| This is actually something that brought us a lot of joy. | ||
| Just start demo levels. | ||
| It seems like you can play it. | ||
| Give it to us, Jamie. | ||
| Oh my god, you can play it online. | ||
| Get it, get it, get it, get it. | ||
| You gotta get some sound. | ||
| Listen, we're not doing this. | ||
| I'm not gonna play Puzzle Farter. | ||
| Jamie's gonna operate the controls and play Puzzle Farter. | ||
| Didn't I? Well, one day, challenge yourself. | ||
| It's a lot of fun. | ||
| I just don't think people are used to the idea of being alone anymore without these devices, and that's only been around for 10 years. | ||
| It's a lot of false comfort. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But I think there's also, like, there's all these different disorders and things that they're coming up with, like, you know, young kids and their identity with Instagram and how it reflects their self-worth and how many likes they get and who liked their photos. | ||
| And, like, it's really scary. | ||
| I was looking at an article today where they were saying that girls as early as nine years old are getting surgery to make their vaginas look better. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Really? | |
| They might be making it up just so I'll talk about it. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think we should. | ||
| I think that sounds questionable. | ||
| I think it's in the Daily Mail, so it might be questionable. | ||
| Whose parents? | ||
| But I know that vagina surgeries, like aesthetic vagina surgeries, are on the rise. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, they didn't exist like how many years ago? | ||
| I remember there was a trend when you would dye your pubes blue and put bedazzled little... | ||
| No, that was just you. | ||
| That was just you. | ||
| This is no trend. | ||
| Vagina surgery, it's like that fart puzzle. | ||
| Ben, you know all about this. | ||
| You know what you're talking about. | ||
| Vagina surgery. | ||
| We swim in the same pond. | ||
| This is the BBC, guys. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| That can't be right. | ||
| No, scroll back down so you see... | ||
| Look at that headline. | ||
| Vagina surgery sought by girls as young as nine. | ||
| I mean, vaginas are crazy looking. | ||
| Okay, but how... | ||
| Okay, here's the thing. | ||
| So are dicks. | ||
| A bunch of people got fired. | ||
| Dicks are weird. | ||
| They're all weird. | ||
| You're right, but it's a lot harder to operate. | ||
| Don't discriminate. | ||
| Sorry to interrupt, Joe. | ||
| Harder to operate a vagina? | ||
| I beg to differ. | ||
| No, to operate on a dick than a vagina. | ||
| I don't fucking know what I'm talking about. | ||
| Yeah, we're really making judgment calls here on what's more... | ||
| I really hope your mom doesn't listen to us. | ||
| One of these things that we know nothing about is more difficult. | ||
| Oh, it feels right. | ||
| Operating on body parts. | ||
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It feels right. | |
| How do you know, like, this... | ||
| Here's the thing, man. | ||
| Like, CNN just got busted for... | ||
| They fired a bunch of people for writing some story about Trump and Russia that wasn't true. | ||
| You hear about that? | ||
| People get super overzealous trying to make a story real when they didn't do all the background work that was necessary. | ||
| That's why Trump can get away with calling CNN fake news, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because they're doing shit like that. | ||
| Because they're doing desperado shit. | ||
| They're getting into that blurry area where they're doing things that are just a little bit sensational, a little sensationalism, and they're trying to get people to pay attention. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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And the pace, right? | |
| How do we know that that's not the case here? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm sure women are getting vagina surgeries. | ||
| We've heard of it. | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| We know it's a real thing. | ||
| But when you see it as early as nine, man, if that's on instant clickbait, saying as young as nine, that might be worth... | ||
| Fucking hundreds of thousands of dollars. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I'm just taking a guess. | ||
| If there's one case of this, they could point to that as a reference and say, we'll see. | ||
| Well, the absurdity of a young child, someone, anyone, like, looking at their vagina in any kind of pleasurable way is totally fucked up. | ||
| So why would a kid care about the appearance of their vagina? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| None of this makes sense. | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| I mean, what's even creepier is you cut baby dicks. | ||
| This makes me angry. | ||
| To make them look better for Jesus. | ||
| I did that. | ||
| For Jesus, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| For Jesus. | ||
| Not to be too vulnerable here, but the other day, for the first time in my life, I saw my circumcision scar. | ||
| I was like, holy shit, that's what that is. | ||
| How did it make you feel? | ||
| It was intense. | ||
| I was like, someone cut my dick... | ||
| They're doing it right now as we're talking. | ||
| They're cutting baby dicks all over this country in 2017. They're just slicing baby dicks for no reason. | ||
| There's so many things I want to say and I just want to keep them to myself at this point. | ||
|
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Why? | |
| Because I should. | ||
| Well, if you want to say them, I feel like you don't want to keep them to yourself. | ||
| I'm going to pass. | ||
| Is it about baby dicks? | ||
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No, it's about circumcised. | |
| Okay, what else is going on, guys? | ||
| How's that Jack Daniels single barrel? | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| I know where you're going. | ||
| You don't have to say a word. | ||
| Turn the mulch over. | ||
| It's an aesthetic thing. | ||
| Sometimes I forget that this is being broadcast and we're not just hanging out as friends. | ||
| We should just stop talking. | ||
| We would not have to think about it over and over again. | ||
| Then I feel self-aware. | ||
| I'm just going to focus on my Joe action figure. | ||
| I mean, how much if a BBC news article like that probably gets like a million hits, right? | ||
| Am I being... | ||
| Maybe? | ||
| A lot of hits, right? | ||
| So, how much is that worth? | ||
| Like, if you can guarantee 50% more hits is it worth thousands of dollars? | ||
| Like, how much do they get paid by the ads that are on their website, right? | ||
| When I'm on the computer and I'm, like, you know, looking at something and then there's those, you know, distractify kind of things. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And I click on them because I'm curious. | ||
| I just feel so bad about myself. | ||
| I just feel like such a piece of shit. | ||
| Like, you should be doing something better with your time, Suzanne, than looking at, you know, the, I don't know, before and after pictures of... | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Who cares? | |
| Those articles are like having phone sex with a robot. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's like, you never get anything out of it. | ||
| But you're getting fucked. | ||
| You keep changing the channels. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| Like, there's no real, it's not a real article. | ||
| Like, if you read, like, you know, the 18 hot women from the 80s, you should see them now. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And, you know, and you go through them, and it's like, who's writing this? | ||
| But who benefits from it? | ||
| I'm curious, like, just beyond the veil, like, what is the point? | ||
| Does someone get paid for you clicking that button? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Yeah, I hate that. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| But it's the same shit. | ||
| I mean, like, why do people buy fucking Doritos? | ||
| It's the same thing, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you hate about it, though? | ||
| Because I want to use my time and energy wisely and not waste it on things like that. | ||
| Because I'd rather like sit with my phone off and my computer off or learn something that is beneficial. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that's just wasteful. | ||
| That's junk food. | ||
| It is. | ||
| But so is Doritos. | ||
| But Doritos taste good. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, but they have healthy Doritos. | ||
| They have like Geek and... | ||
| The shell is a Dorito. | ||
| They have that one... | ||
| My favorite chip at 365 slash Whole Foods is like... | ||
| It's like a bean chip and it tastes like Doritos and it's not... | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| What's 365 slash Whole Foods? | ||
| In Glendale in California in Los Angeles. | ||
| It's called 365 slash... | ||
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Not just Whole Foods? | |
| It's like a cheaper Whole Foods. | ||
| It's like the brand 365 when you go to Whole Foods. | ||
| Whole Foods started like an outlet. | ||
| It's an outlet. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
|
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The store. | |
| For the poor kids. | ||
| I didn't know what that was. | ||
| It's for everybody. | ||
|
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Just kidding. | |
| It's out there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's out there. | ||
| Yeah, check it out. | ||
| Take it for a spin. | ||
| So what were you saying about it? | ||
| No, but they have these chips. | ||
| They have Doritos substitutes. | ||
| They taste like Doritos, and I fucking love them. | ||
| They're delicious. | ||
| You know what I think's adorable? | ||
| Trans fats are fucking terrible for you, right? | ||
| They're horrible. | ||
| And the government has decided to outlaw trans fats in two years. | ||
| Yeah, you could eat poison for two years. | ||
| Do you think it's interesting? | ||
| Ruthless diarrhea and just shallow calories. | ||
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Oh, God, that's awful. | |
| And a lot of people are going to die because of obesity because you're addicted to sucking down these things. | ||
| When you go to Canada, they have their Heinz ketchup and we have our Heinz ketchup. | ||
| And the Canadian Heinz ketchup does not have high fructose corn syrup. | ||
| What does it have? | ||
| Sugar? | ||
| I don't know, but it doesn't have high fructose corn syrup because it's banned. | ||
| And it's gross. | ||
| It tasted differently and I liked it. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| I think that's interesting that right on the other side of this border, they have better ketchup. | ||
| Well, they have better Coca-Cola in Mexico. | ||
| They do. | ||
| They use cane sugar. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Tastes better? | ||
| I mean, I don't really drink Coca-Cola, but it's... | ||
| It does taste better. | ||
| It's just interesting what the FDA approves in our country for the food that we eat. | ||
| They don't give a fuck about us. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| All those government agencies are a bunch of puppets when it comes to diet and exercise and what you're allowed to put in cigarettes and what you're allowed to put in all sorts of different drugs that get passed. | ||
| It is fucking bananas. | ||
| We were talking about Nevada just became legal for marijuana. | ||
| It's fucking bananas how it took until 2017 where states finally started making weed legal while people were dropping off left and right from opiate pills. | ||
| There was a study that Dr. Hart Is that his name? | ||
| It's on my Twitter. | ||
| I tweeted it earlier today or last night. | ||
| But it was 93% of patients that have pain preferred cannabis over opioids. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Opioids or opiates? | ||
| Opiates. | ||
| Yeah, I can attest to that. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I mean, menstrual cramps are debilitating for some ladies, I'll be honest. | ||
| And that's why I got my weed license. | ||
| Because it's night and day. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Tell them about the thing. | ||
| Well, they have... | ||
| Actually, I don't care. | ||
| I feel comfortable. | ||
| They have suppositories that you put in your twinkle. | ||
| They get your eyes fucked? | ||
| No, they don't get you... | ||
| I mean, they make this warm, wonderful feeling in your belly that is the antithesis of writhing in pain and being out of commission for a day. | ||
| Which happens every month. | ||
| I get one or two days where I'm just down. | ||
| I'm in so much pain. | ||
| I can't do anything. | ||
| And it's awful. | ||
| But weed has been the best thing that's happened for that ailment. | ||
| Whereas you take Motrin, and you can take Motrin, but it can give you a terrible stomach ache because it's really bad. | ||
| It's really bad for your liver, and you're taking just handfuls of Motrin. | ||
| And Advil, all those things. | ||
| Yeah, it's the same thing. | ||
| Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories. | ||
| Those things are super bad for your body. | ||
| But it's interesting that that's what you would take as opposed to having weed legal and all of its different medicinal facets that can help you. | ||
| Well, the difference is obviously there's a psychoactive effect that's probably unwanted for a lot of people that take Advil. | ||
| They just want to get rid of the headache. | ||
| They don't want to trip their fucking balls off. | ||
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Right. | |
| But that's where like CBDs come in. | ||
| Yeah, they're great. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| But apparently some people take CBDs and they experience some sort of a psychoactive effect. | ||
| I've talked to quite a few people that say that. | ||
| I don't understand that. | ||
| Maybe they're getting stuff that's like weird. | ||
| It's probably got pot in it. | ||
| I think that too. | ||
| I think some of the recipes... | ||
| Like, I've definitely gotten edibles that were duds, and you have too. | ||
| It's just like, oh, I think they missed something. | ||
| You know, it's still sort of like a primitive market. | ||
| So I think a lot of the companies, and you see some of them, like, come in and come out just like, boom, boom, boom, like new restaurants didn't make it. | ||
| I think there's definitely a search for more reliable product in that regard. | ||
| And we're also so different. | ||
| Like, I'm... | ||
| People react to weed so differently. | ||
| I'm terrible with weed. | ||
| You are an example of that. | ||
| Yeah, you blow my mind. | ||
| I feel like last time we talked, you told me not to blow up your spine. | ||
| But at one point you took a thousand milligrams, is that true? | ||
| Yeah, I've done that a couple of times. | ||
| That's fucking insane. | ||
| If I take ten milligrams, I'm fucked. | ||
| Yeah, but I can't hang with Joey Diaz. | ||
| Joey Diaz will take a thousand and then he'll eat 250 more in front of you and laugh at you. | ||
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That's insane. | |
| Well, I told you that story when we were at Coachella and I accidentally took a 25 milligram Jolly Rancher because it was a hard candy. | ||
| You don't just bite it in half. | ||
| And my friends were like, you took the whole thing? | ||
| And I was like, yeah. | ||
| And I lost my mind watching Radiohead. | ||
| This was years ago. | ||
| And coincidentally, ran into Gary Clark Jr. And I was like, Gary. | ||
| Help me find Ben! | ||
| And I was just losing my mind. | ||
| I bet he was super helpful. | ||
| But I told you that story, Joe, and you were like, fuck that! | ||
| I'd take 25 milligrams and go to the movies! | ||
| And I was like, okay, well, you are very tough. | ||
| Well, this is the point. | ||
| But I am not. | ||
| There's no consistency. | ||
| You get your 25 milligrams. | ||
| And it's also a matter of how much you take and how often you take it. | ||
| I definitely didn't say it like that. | ||
| No, you're so cool. | ||
| Check the tape. | ||
| You're a total gentleman about it. | ||
| People do like to brag about how much they can take, me included. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I'd be like, bitch, I'll take that whole candy. | ||
| No, you won't. | ||
| Fuck yeah, I will. | ||
| Let's go on a journey. | ||
| Let's go on a journey, pussy. | ||
| Joey Diaz is a horrible person though. | ||
| Joey will take these chibichus and he'll take the ones that have 500 milligrams and he'll swap the package for one that has 75 milligrams. | ||
| He'll give it to somebody. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck and he'll laugh because he knows you're gonna live. | ||
| Everybody lives. | ||
| Everybody lives. | ||
| We had a friend who said he ate an edible And he slept for 24 hours? | ||
| I'm not going to say who, but we had a friend, right? | ||
| I don't remember what you're talking about. | ||
| Because I'm so hot! | ||
| You know who I'm talking about. | ||
| No, I don't, but it's all right. | ||
| Okay, well, a friend of yours had never had weed before, and someone gave him an edible, and he slept for like 24 hours and woke up like an entire day later. | ||
| That totally happens. | ||
| If you don't do it all the time, if you're not used to it, yeah. | ||
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It's intense. | |
| I felt more high on edibles than I have like taking mushrooms. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But I didn't take that many mushrooms. | ||
| But it's a very intense psychoactive experience when you take an edible. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I've said this so many times, I apologize in advance. | ||
| But your body produces something called 11-hydroxymetabolite when THC is processed by your liver. | ||
| It's five times more psychoactive than THC. It's a way different drug. | ||
| And it's not psychoactive when you smoke it. | ||
| So when you're smoking pot, your body's not producing the 11-hydroxy metabolite. | ||
| When you process it with your liver, your body produces this intense psychedelic drug. | ||
| When you eat weed and then close your eyes, you have some of the craziest fucking visuals that match up there. | ||
| As long as you have enough, they go right up to everything. | ||
| They go right up to mushrooms. | ||
| You can have these mini DMT trips if Oh, I smoked DMT with weed once. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| It changed my life. | ||
| When did you do this? | ||
| This was a couple years ago. | ||
| A good friend of mine. | ||
| And I took one hit and it was like zero to a hundred. | ||
| It was just like you exhaled and then you just take off. | ||
| And I mean, I'd never smoked DMT before and I'm very sensitive to weed. | ||
| So I was high for like two, three hours. | ||
| And at one point, We were sitting on a balcony, and I was watching the street, and it flipped into negative, like a photograph, like the colors changed. | ||
| Wait, man, this is like, you smoked the DMT, and how many minutes later is this happening? | ||
| This was in about 10 minutes. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So that was when it was most intense. | ||
| So you kept your eyes open. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Should I close my eyes? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Tell me how to do it! | ||
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I don't know! | |
| It sounds like you took a small dose if you took one hit. | ||
| No, I took a couple hits. | ||
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You took a couple hits. | |
| But my first hit, it was just like... | ||
| So right away. | ||
| It was like Star Wars when it just goes into warp speed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Where you're like... | ||
| Like, it was insane. | ||
| D&T's got a weird threshold thing that happens. | ||
| Yeah, tell me everything. | ||
| And it's like three hits in. | ||
| What happened to me? | ||
| There's something about three... | ||
| Three hits in is when reality dissolves. | ||
| For most people. | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
| Three hits. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And, um... | ||
| If you took one or two, you get crazy visuals, you get weird, freaky stuff. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But you don't go to the alien dimension. | ||
| I saw... | ||
| No, yes, I did. | ||
| You did. | ||
| I totally did. | ||
| So you took enough. | ||
| So did you close your eyes while you were there, or did you have them open? | ||
| Well, it was nighttime, so I could see the stars. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And at one point, I went completely deaf. | ||
| All the sounds just went... | ||
| And I was watching a moving street, and I couldn't hear anything. | ||
| It was intense. | ||
| How high up were you? | ||
| Just a couple stories. | ||
| Were you worried about freaking out and trying to fly? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I was on the ride. | ||
| Wait, tell me more. | ||
| That's the big fear, right? | ||
| The big fear is like someone taking a psychedelic and they're on a balcony. | ||
| Like Bill Hicks used to have a bit about that. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Young man on acid. | ||
| Thought he could fly. | ||
| You know, leapt tragically to his death. | ||
| Oh, that's scary. | ||
| What a tragedy. | ||
| He goes, what a dick. | ||
| Still here. | ||
| He goes, if you thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground first? | ||
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Oh. | |
| He goes, we just lost a moron. | ||
| That's awful. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| It was great. | ||
| And then he had a positive drug story. | ||
| Yeah, which you never do here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| You know, I don't like to say that the news is fake, because it's not fake. | ||
| It's like they're doing the best they can, and they vet themselves the best they can, and they definitely fuck up. | ||
| And definitely people get ambitious. | ||
| But it is kind of interesting that they only tell you, like, sanctioned things. | ||
| Like, you're never going to see, like, a whole Fox News article on the benefits of psychedelic drugs, and how it could change your consciousness, and how Suzanne smoked pot with Duncan Trussell with... | ||
| DMT laced in it. | ||
| It was not Dunkin' Truffle. | ||
| But it could be, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| I did take mushrooms with Dunkin' once though. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| If you haven't, you haven't lived. | ||
| It was like the first time I'd ever like really been high on mushrooms. | ||
| Oh yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I saw my grandfather. | ||
| Ooh, that's intense. | ||
| Yeah, we should talk about that another time. | ||
| I saw my grandfather once on weed. | ||
| I ate an edible and then had a dream. | ||
| And the dream was really intense. | ||
| And I was talking to my grandfather. | ||
| It was really weird. | ||
| Like I hadn't seen him in forever. | ||
| You know, he died when I was... | ||
| I was in my 20s. | ||
| Did it feel real? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Did you guys spend a lot of time together when he was alive? | ||
| Yeah, we did. | ||
| He used to take me fishing and stuff like that. | ||
| He was a really nice guy. | ||
| He just took care of my grandmother for the last 12 years of her life. | ||
| She had a stroke and you had to take care of her for a long time. | ||
| She had an aneurysm. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, and I lived with them at that time because I'd moved from Boston to New York. | ||
| I didn't have a place to stay. | ||
| So I lived with my grandfather and my grandmother in New Jersey, and it was just a super dark time. | ||
| How old were you? | ||
| 24? | ||
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Oh wow. | |
| Somewhere around then. | ||
| And it made me realize, like really intensely, that this life does not last. | ||
| You have to really be appreciative of health and your ability to move and your ability to experience things. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And it just seems like such a given. | ||
| And because it's such a given and we get wrapped up in so many different things, it's super easy to lose touch with that, to be happy. | ||
| I was talking to a really good friend of mine who's going through a divorce. | ||
| And he started getting all bummed out about it and this and that. | ||
| And I was like, look, man, you are so lucky. | ||
| You're happy. | ||
| You're healthy. | ||
| You're alive. | ||
| You have a bunch of great friends. | ||
| You're going to be fine. | ||
| This is all going to be fine. | ||
| This is like a little journey you're going to go through. | ||
| It's all in how you look at it, how you approach this journey, how you're going to come out of it on the other end. | ||
| But being a young guy and living with my grandmother when she was dying... | ||
| And my grandfather, we need to take care of her. | ||
| And seeing the both of them, like, struggle. | ||
| It was intense. | ||
| Well, can I ask you a question? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| When you feel like you... | ||
| When you had this psychedelic experience where you saw your grandfather, like, does that... | ||
| To you, is that, like, a real experience of him being somewhere else and communicating with you? | ||
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Or... | |
| It's probably just an ego trip. | ||
| It's probably just me thinking that I can recreate my memory. | ||
| But what was interesting about it is the memories were so intense. | ||
| They were so realistic. | ||
| They were like my grandfather. | ||
| He used to talk and he used to behave. | ||
| He was always a very gentle man. | ||
| A very gentle guy with a very easy way about him. | ||
| He was a really interesting guy. | ||
| And he was like that in the dream. | ||
| He was that guy in the dream. | ||
| Well, it makes sense, too, if you go through a really impactful time. | ||
| It just digs those grooves deep. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| In your brain. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| And I had it once with Phil Hartman, too. | ||
| It was super intense. | ||
| The Phil Hartman one was super intense. | ||
| It was years after he died, like maybe more than 10. And in the dream, he was sitting in a lawn chair... | ||
| And somehow or another, he was telling me what life was like after his wife had killed himself, or killed him, and then killed herself. | ||
| It was really intense. | ||
| And somehow or another, I was talking to him from this next stage of existence. | ||
| But the next stage of existence, it wasn't heaven, and it wasn't the DMT dimension. | ||
| It was like a picnic. | ||
| It was like there was a lawn, and it was like a bunch of people hanging out, and he had a... | ||
| He was just laughing and joking around and being jovial about things. | ||
| And he was just talking about, oh yeah, we talked about that. | ||
| Like, about him and the wife after she shot him and killed him. | ||
| He was like joking around in my dream. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| Yeah, we had to have a conversation about that. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You know, it was like, wow. | ||
| It was so crazy. | ||
| It was so intense because it was so real and it was him. | ||
| And he fell backwards in his chair, like laughing. | ||
| He fell backwards in his chair, almost like a pratfall. | ||
| And then he was gone. | ||
| What? | ||
| And then the dream was gone. | ||
| And then it all went away and I woke up. | ||
| Because it was so intense. | ||
| I woke up and I was like, whoa, that really felt like I was talking to Phil. | ||
| Like it didn't feel like just a memory. | ||
| It really felt like I was talking to Phil. | ||
| But again, what is that? | ||
| Is that an ego trip? | ||
| Is that your imagination? | ||
| Is that your memory? | ||
| No, I believe in that stuff. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Are you all in? | ||
| I am. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| I mean, because I've had... | ||
| I mean, I think there's a lot of bullshit with... | ||
| You need to be skeptical from the external people that try to tell you stuff. | ||
| But I've definitely had people help me understand what all that shit means when I've had dreams like that with my deceased relatives and they told me things and then they happened. | ||
| Yeah, it could be your ego, but... | ||
| I don't think that makes it less real, though, if it's your ego or your mind, you know, creating a scenario with a loved one or whatever. | ||
| I don't think that's less real than the idea of this spirit re-embodying, you know, I don't know, some sort of physical form or whatever. | ||
| I think they're both kind of valid. | ||
| And it's energy. | ||
| I think it's an exchange of energy. | ||
| And we've definitely been in places where we felt like Not alone. | ||
| And we weren't high. | ||
| You have those moments where your instincts and your intuition are aware of external things that you can't see, but you can feel. | ||
| And maybe you can see them. | ||
| We've seen a ghost once. | ||
| Can I just address what you just said, though? | ||
| But there is a difference, right? | ||
| There is a difference because one of them is your imagination and one of them is you talking to a ghost. | ||
| There's a huge difference. | ||
| Because one of them, it means ghosts are real. | ||
| And the other one, it just means your imagination is real, which you're absolutely 100% aware of, right? | ||
| So we know people have ridiculous imaginations. | ||
| They dream and imagine things constantly. | ||
| So there is a big difference between the two of them. | ||
| Because one of them gives you a... | ||
| A view into a mystical world that doesn't, in the eyes of science, it doesn't seem to make sense, right? | ||
| It doesn't seem to want to exist if there's another world where people can come back from the dead and talk to you and have conversations with you. | ||
| But one of the arguments that I've always used with psychedelic drugs is that if you feel like in a psychedelic experience you went to heaven and had a conversation with God or you went to another dimension and talked to the infinite wisdom that controls the The cells of the universe. | ||
| If you did do that, or if you took the drugs and felt like you did that, it's the same experience. | ||
| Like, that's the difference. | ||
| It's like, I don't know if God's real, and I don't know what the fuck happens when you take psychedelic drugs, but god damn it feels similar. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like, there's moments where you have intense psychedelic trips where you really do believe that You're in the presence of like this pure wisdom and pure love that sees you in a way that is undeniable and you can't argue it. | ||
| I think it's a gateway. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think sometimes it's your ego. | ||
| Sometimes it's some weird shit in your brain. | ||
| Sometimes I think it's real. | ||
| I think it's very complicated. | ||
| It is complicated, but my point is they're the same experience. | ||
| If you're talking to God or if you're talking to your imagination that creates this God... | ||
| For that brief moment, in those 15 minutes, it's the same experience. | ||
| I don't know if that's enough, but that's something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Your old time on Earth is just time, right? | ||
| Your time on Earth is just, you have a limited, finite amount. | ||
| You got 100 years if you're fucking super lucky, and you got good genes, and that's a wrap, right? | ||
| So we have this little time thing. | ||
| But during those 15 minutes, which is a small amount of time, but the whole life's small. | ||
| During those 15 minutes, you are absolutely experiencing something divine. | ||
| Now, is that in your imagination? | ||
| Is that you finding some portal to another dimension? | ||
| Is that the reason why your brain produces these chemicals in the first place is because we transition during the time of death into this new realm? | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| But if your concept of what divinity is includes all of that stuff, it gets to be both. | ||
| Sure, but there's a real problem with defining something that you just can't define. | ||
| The whole problem with psychedelic trips, I don't know if you guys feel this way, but for me, it's always like, whenever I tell somebody about it, I'm like, why even use words? | ||
| The words don't work. | ||
| They're not enough. | ||
| Not enough. | ||
| You can scramble them together and say them perfect and scream them from a rooftop. | ||
| I think when you use the words, too, it can almost, like, demean the experience. | ||
| Diminish, right? | ||
| Diminish the keep, sorry. | ||
| Well, that's when we're kind of pushing against the limits of language. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and that's why I think there's such a wide array of people's theories and beliefs and thoughts, and they're all valid because we don't have, there's no agreed-upon language to say, okay, this is how we all feel and this is how we're doing it. | ||
| I always go back to music with this stuff, but there's a similar... | ||
| Pathway and trend in music, where people are constantly redefining the language of it. | ||
| And, you know, there's a kind of a mainstream openness to that, or there isn't. | ||
| But the idea, the point is, the language is dynamic, you know? | ||
| And it goes on to continuously try and express something that's kind of inexpressible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's why it acts as a magnet for people's thought, because they say, okay, this is kind of our pathway of experimentation to understand... | ||
| Well, it's like mainstream is like the fast food of music a little bit, and then there's some more obscure like restaurants off the beaten path that you've never tasted anything like this. | ||
| And they're developing the vocabulary that most people are like, that fucking tastes gross. | ||
| I'm not eating a cricket. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But in 50 years, you know, that vocabulary kind of seeps its way in if it has value. | ||
| I always felt like, I mean, you guys are the musicians, but I always felt like what music sort of is is almost like a vessel that the artist fills with emotion and with, like, passion. | ||
| And it's almost like it doesn't even matter what the words are sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes it does because those words and the feeling behind them enhance the song. | ||
| But, like, Voodoo Child, perfect example. | ||
| Like... | ||
| There's like a lot of... | ||
| The lyrics aren't particularly profound. | ||
| Like, the night I was born, you say the moon turned a... | ||
| I don't even know the lyrics. | ||
| I just know the feeling of the song. | ||
| Like, I just feel the song. | ||
| Yeah, it's just about being a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I was born a bad motherfucker, bitch. | ||
| I mean, that's basically... | ||
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He really was. | |
| He was. | ||
| He wasn't lying. | ||
| Who can argue that, Jimmy? | ||
| Staring me in the eye. | ||
| They say the moon turned to fire red on the night I was born. | ||
| I mean, that's not profound, right? | ||
| But when you hear him say it with that guitar behind it, with those emotions, it carries that song. | ||
| What's profound is the... | ||
| It's part of a lineage, you know what I mean? | ||
| That's a proclamation, and that's part of blues music, and that's part of African music, and that's part of all this stuff. | ||
| You're just like, I'm a fucking man or woman or whatever. | ||
| I'm a human. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Yeah, but it's more than that with him. | ||
| What he's saying is he's a voodoo child. | ||
| He's basically claiming some Robert Johnson type shit. | ||
| The night I was born, the moon turned a fire red, you know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Did he write that song? | ||
| Are we certain? | ||
| I don't know who wrote it, but he sang it. | ||
| He didn't write All Along the Watchtower, right? | ||
| That's Bob Dylan. | ||
| His grandmother was a Native American, so he has all this... | ||
| There's two versions, too. | ||
| There's one version that's like the real bluesy version of Voodoo Child. | ||
| You know, there's the Voodoo Child's Slight Return, and there's that other version, which is like much more acoustic or much more guitar-driven. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Guitar sounds is a perfect example. | ||
| Gary Clark Jr. is a perfect example. | ||
| When he came and played with you guys on stage, I saw you guys downtown a few months back. | ||
| Dude, when he gets on stage, his sound is Gary Clark Jr. You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You guys were singing Midnight Rider, which was fucking amazing. | ||
| Did he have pedals with him or did he just plug in? | ||
| Yeah, he just took my guitar and was playing it straight in. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| But that sound... | ||
| It's like a sound that you instantly, like Stevie Ray Vaughan had it, Hendrix had it. | ||
| It's like a sound you instantly recognize, like one of his riffs. | ||
| Crazy! | ||
| How does someone do that? | ||
| Because it's him. | ||
| But that's kind of what we're talking about as far as vocabulary, too. | ||
| And maybe this happens in fighting. | ||
| I imagine it does. | ||
| People have techniques or whatever that they slowly turn into their own thing. | ||
| And that's what makes them... | ||
| Well, and they're derivative of a lot of things, of a lot of different techniques, so then you kind of have this, like, at least for music, I'll speak for myself, I just feel like I have this, like, garble of stuff that just, when people are like, what are, how would you describe your sound? | ||
| It's so awkward, because you're not like, I sound just like that. | ||
| You know, there's, it's just such a... | ||
| Yeah, you can't make... | ||
| What do you sound like? | ||
| I can't do this. | ||
| I gotta leave. | ||
| Don't ask me that question. | ||
| What kind of comedy are you, Joe Rogan? | ||
| I did a radio show last week where a guy asked me to make him laugh. | ||
| Oh, fuck that. | ||
| What did you do, Joe? | ||
| I said, well, that's not going to happen. | ||
| Did you tickle him? | ||
| I said, what are you, a child? | ||
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That made me laugh. | |
| That made me laugh. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| Someone calls up on the phone, their singer, and you're like, sing me a song. | ||
| Oh, yeah, people do that all the time. | ||
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Sing me a song, that's really good. | |
| People are like, oh, you're a singer? | ||
| Let's hear you sing. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a funny feeling. | ||
| It's humbling. | ||
| It's super humbling because it's like sometimes we've... | ||
| Why is it humbling? | ||
| You're talking to a twat. | ||
| Well, no, you're talking to someone who doesn't understand. | ||
| Well, they're being a twat. | ||
| And sure, but like, I don't know. | ||
| I feel like the need to like... | ||
| Even connect with the twats sometimes and just say, hey, I'll sing for you. | ||
| If you don't like it, that's fine. | ||
| I'll sing for you. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I'm not above that. | ||
| Connecting to the twats is deep. | ||
| That was my chair. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| We always have to feel the need to recreate that sound. | ||
| Let me just move it again like that. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Let everybody know. | ||
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I would tell you. | |
| Just sneak over us. | ||
| And we're back. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| There's no need for somebody to ask that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, you know, it's just lazy entertaining. | ||
| It's also that job of being the radio host is a tough fucking job. | ||
| It's you get three minutes to talk to someone you never talked to before and maybe you're not so good at it and DJs on radio stations nowadays, they're not even really DJs anymore. | ||
| They don't get to pick the fucking songs. | ||
| Who the fuck lets you pick the songs? | ||
| One dude? | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| Some of them do. | ||
| There's some big daddies out there. | ||
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Come on. | |
| When it comes to commercial radio. | ||
| How many? | ||
| There's like 10 stations across the nation that are still public radio. | ||
| Kevin and Bean camp. | ||
| KCRW. Doesn't Jason Bentley pick... | ||
| His shit? | ||
| Yeah, but that's a unique thing. | ||
| Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| But that's what I'm saying. | ||
| There's still some people that are holding court. | ||
| It's like Game of Thrones. | ||
| Just knocking bitches out. | ||
| But I think it has to be small stations where not a lot of people are paying attention. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Because the big ones, they need the money that's going to dictate the playlist. | ||
| But that doesn't mean you still can't. | ||
| If that part of your job as a DJ is even taken away, then what is your fucking job? | ||
| To be interesting on the air. | ||
| They can't do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know how they get ratings? | ||
| This is the most hilarious thing. | ||
| Or they did, at least until recently. | ||
| They still do the Arbitron shit? | ||
| Is that how they do the radio ratings? | ||
| The way they do it is they hand out books. | ||
| And they ask people to fill out the books. | ||
| Tell us what you were listening to and when you were listening to it. | ||
| So what do you get? | ||
| You get the opinion of assholes that are willing to fill out those fucking books. | ||
| Who's going to fill out that book? | ||
| They're going to give you that book and you're going to go, what? | ||
| I've got shit to do. | ||
| I'm not filling out this fucking radio book. | ||
| It's like, sorry. | ||
| No, you. | ||
| Our first record had a single called Little Toy Gun. | ||
| Yeah, great song. | ||
| Love that. | ||
| They were testing that. | ||
| I guess maybe it's different now. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They were calling people, like potential listeners, kind of like a Nielsen vibe, a little. | ||
| And they would play them a bunch of songs and be like, whoa, do you like it? | ||
| Like literally over the phone, you'd hear like 20 seconds of a song. | ||
| And you give it a thumbs up or thumbs down. | ||
| And that's how you're getting the ratings. | ||
| That's what defines whether our song was successful. | ||
| It's so different now, though. | ||
| There's like... | ||
| And now you've got internet radio that's free, so people don't have to pay for it. | ||
| They don't have to call in. | ||
| They just have to listen, and that is monitored through... | ||
| You can measure that through Spotify or Pandora or Apple Music. | ||
| I have a single out right now that came out a month ago, and it's doing really well. | ||
| It's doing really well. | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| It's called Ghost in My Bed. | ||
| And it's doing better than I thought it would. | ||
| I had no idea that it would be like jumping from playlist to playlist. | ||
| This is our, you know, we're doing solo projects this year. | ||
| You just didn't know how much of a fucking bad... | ||
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Shut up. | |
| Shut up. | ||
| But I looked at, it came out June 1st. | ||
| I had like a couple hundred followers on Spotify. | ||
| And like that week I got like 10,000. | ||
| And then like the other week it was at like 37,000 followers. | ||
| It blew my mind. | ||
| I have a PR team. | ||
| You have a team? | ||
| We got a team. | ||
| I got a team, yeah, because I want to own my music. | ||
| So I hired a publicist, a distributor, and you get your manufacturing, and that's really all you need is doing the fucking work. | ||
| Isn't that crazy to own your own shit? | ||
| You got to hire a bunch of people. | ||
| Well, because record companies make you think that you need them and you don't. | ||
| Some of them are great. | ||
| What do they do now? | ||
| What's a record company good for today? | ||
| It depends. | ||
| If they're actually good at their job, they're good at fucking selling music. | ||
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Right. | |
| But that's very rare, and that's hard to do. | ||
| For everybody. | ||
| It's a combination, though, because obviously, like, if the music's not good enough, it's not going to work. | ||
| And if it is, great. | ||
| But there's so many different, you know, it's a labyrinth of, oh, no, we're going to lose them. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Ben's going to be all smiles. | ||
|
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Ben's going deep. | |
| Play cool. | ||
|
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Play cool. | |
| You look great. | ||
| He's going to be fine. | ||
| You're so funny when you smoke weed. | ||
| Did you just say that? | ||
| Funny as in, like, fun? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Wait, is this a test? | ||
| I'm just saying we have it now. | ||
| It's on the internet. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| Did she say you're not funny? | ||
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Is that what goes on? | |
| No, we have a lot of fights when Ben gets stoned. | ||
| But I also love you and want you to be happy. | ||
| That means a lot to me. | ||
| You know this is live, right? | ||
| Yeah, sure do. | ||
| Ben's mom might listen to it one day. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| You guys are going deep with this. | ||
| No, but in terms of the record companies and releasing music, they have... | ||
| I mean, every artist is different. | ||
| Every approach is different. | ||
| But I think what's interesting is their jobs are becoming more and more obsolete because of the evolution of the industry. | ||
| But don't they try to take a piece of your music sales? | ||
| Oh, everything! | ||
| But your concert sales, they try to take a piece of... | ||
| It depends on the deal. | ||
| It depends on how much leverage you have. | ||
| But that's really common, right? | ||
| To take a piece of your concert sales? | ||
| Which seems kind of crazy, the live music. | ||
| It depends on your position, your situation. | ||
| Who was it that we had in? | ||
| What musician was it? | ||
| Oh, Everlast was explaining it. | ||
| Was he explaining it? | ||
| Shirley. | ||
| Was it Everlast? | ||
| No, Shirley from Garbage. | ||
| I listened to that, and it was incredible. | ||
| And she had a lot of really interesting points. | ||
| How cool is she? | ||
| So cool. | ||
| She might be one of the coolest people I've ever interviewed. | ||
| They're going to be here soon. | ||
| Garbage and, is it Hole? | ||
| Are performing at the Bowl? | ||
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Oh, Jesus. | |
| Did you ever see that... | ||
| Hole at the Bowl? | ||
| The documentary that said that Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain? | ||
| I started to watch it with my mom and dad. | ||
| You feel like those ads. | ||
| It was intense. | ||
| There was a journal. | ||
| They put out Kurt Cobain's journals when I was a teenager. | ||
| They were reading the journals and I was with my parents. | ||
| And I was like, I bought the book because I was such a huge fan. | ||
| And I felt like shit. | ||
| I was like, I should not be doing this. | ||
| I don't want to read this to these journals. | ||
| That dude changed the word. | ||
| That was another one. | ||
| Like, that guy had a sound. | ||
| There was something going on, you know, when the light's out, it's less dangerous. | ||
| I mean, come on, man. | ||
| It's not the words. | ||
| I mean, there's something to the words, but it's the way he's expressing those words. | ||
| Pick her, Joe. | ||
| So, what's interesting about the icons of the decades, you know, you get the 60s, like, come... | ||
| Okay, so the 50s were... | ||
| Like, everything's perfect. | ||
| We have the cleanest music. | ||
| And we have a cookie cutter home. | ||
| And this is the wife. | ||
| And this is the husband. | ||
| And this was like the generation after World War II. Of like, everything's fine. | ||
| We're cool. | ||
| We just came back from war. | ||
| We're going to make a lot of babies, right? | ||
| Okay, the 50s. | ||
| And there's this like, total disillusionment of... | ||
| No, it was more survival, I think. | ||
| But then the 60s are people trying to feel more, and that was when psychedelics were coming in. | ||
| But the 50s was Elvis and all that stuff that was upending all those things. | ||
| But let her get through this. | ||
| He was pioneering that, though. | ||
| That was late 50s, right? | ||
| Continue. | ||
| And then going into the 60s, there's this dichotomy of the people kind of experiencing other areas of life that aren't this sanitized version of society. | ||
| And blossoming more into the 70s. | ||
| Of just harder rock. | ||
| Sonically speaking, you're going into Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and Alice Cooper. | ||
| The 80s are interesting. | ||
| The glam of the 80s, I can't really... | ||
| Help me out with the significance of what that meant to people. | ||
| I think it kind of went back to a little more of this pristine version of people and society, I feel like. | ||
| Well, let me give you the clean version of what a lot of people believe happened. | ||
| Drugs became illegal. | ||
| The 1970s sweeping Drug Legislations Act, the Schedule I Act from Richard Nixon, as soon as it became illegal to possess anything, whether it's marijuana, which was illegal for a long time, mushrooms, it was really hard to do drugs. | ||
| And you just got this massive drop-off in the creativity of music in the 80s. | ||
| Well, then that grunge was the anger that was the product of that disillusionment. | ||
| Well, they grew up with Reagan on TV. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. | ||
| And they didn't want plastic. | ||
| They just wanted everything to be flannel, and they wanted it to rain every day. | ||
| People needed that truth. | ||
| And I think people needed that. | ||
| They needed that reality and that expression of what they were- So what do we need now? | ||
| I think we need so many different things. | ||
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What the world needs now is love. | |
| Sweet love. | ||
| We always need love. | ||
| But I think right now we're so complicated in our individual rights, but I don't know. | ||
| People need so many different things now. | ||
| You can't really say that. | ||
| I'm not saying you can't really say that. | ||
| I'm saying it's so hard to say people need love or people need this or people need education. | ||
| Because you can't really say that there's any one group of people. | ||
| There's so many groups of people. | ||
| But I do think people need to get pulled out of the spiraling of the phones and the stuff and the social media. | ||
| And I think the only things that get them out of that are real inspiration. | ||
| And I think real inspiration has... | ||
| The spectrum of that is very wide, whether it's just a folk song or it's like... | ||
| You're at a club, and it's got that whole rhythm of electronic music, and you're just with a group of people, and you're having this, like, tribal collective thing. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I think that's why I feel like you ask what people need. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Everyone needs something different. | ||
| Yeah, no, you're totally right there. | ||
| And whatever that is, I think it just needs to inspire them. | ||
| Well, we just need to, as a group, recognize that we're all so fucking different. | ||
| And we've got to stop trying to fit everybody into these little packages. | ||
| Well, that's like the pronouns of... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Your friend from Canada. | ||
| He was just on the podcast. | ||
| Jordan Peterson. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Very interesting stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| He's a fascinating guy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, you know, he's dealing with a lot of, like, really weird political correct weirdness. | ||
| This guy's a very thoughtful guy, a very well-spoken guy. | ||
| But people want you to follow their guidelines for how you should think. | ||
| Communicate and what you should accept and what you should argue against or not argue against and It becomes this weird sort of control game that goes on and that's what's happening with a lot of people in this in This nation is fine nation right now people are realizing that they have control over people so they're exerting that control almost the same way a person in power does like One of the things Abraham Lincoln said that was really brilliant, he said, most men can overcome adversity. | ||
| I'm paraphrasing. | ||
| He said, most men can overcome adversity. | ||
| If you really want to test a man, give him success. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which I thought was really fascinating. | ||
| For a lot of people that are in big positions of power, like the President of the United States, for a perfect example, the idea of him getting through that and not falling apart is way... | ||
| You realize what a bad motherfucker Obama was. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| People have zero idea at how good Obama's composure was to get through that entire eight years in the White House without... | ||
| One, like, really gross misstep. | ||
| Socially, right? | ||
| He didn't have one. | ||
| I think there's a lot of people that would probably disagree with that, and I wouldn't agree with them. | ||
| But I think that kind of highlights some of the... | ||
| That's just the ideological thing, though. | ||
| They would think that, you know... | ||
| There was one thing that he said he was joking around at that White House press correspondence dinner about the Jonas Brothers and about... | ||
| He has two words for them. | ||
| I don't remember that. | ||
| It was something about drones. | ||
| What's the word? | ||
| What kind of drones do they use? | ||
| What's the big name for the drone? | ||
| There's like a name, another name for the drone. | ||
| There's like a type of drone. | ||
| Isn't there? | ||
| R2-D2? Didn't he say that to them? | ||
| To the Jonas Brothers? | ||
| Yeah, he's got like a name. | ||
| There's a name for one of the drones. | ||
| It's one of the things that he said. | ||
| And it was like, come on, man. | ||
| You've killed like 84% civilians with drones. | ||
| Or the United States has. | ||
| Like, to say, to joke around about a drone with someone who wants to date your daughter. | ||
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Come on, man. | |
| Like, what was the... | ||
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Oh, wow, look how young he looks. | |
| Oh, predator drones. | ||
| Send a predator after them if they were fucking... | ||
| Wow, look at him. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| So young. | ||
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Sasha and Malia are huge fans. | |
| 2010. But boys don't get any ideas. | ||
| I have two words for you. | ||
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Predator drones. | |
| You'll never see it coming. | ||
| He's joking around about killing people. | ||
| Do you know how many people lost their children to Predator drones while he was in office? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Those things, they take... | ||
| Look, the people that are trying to kill those... | ||
| Terrorists out there and the ISIS members and all the different people that are doing horrible things like blowing up Ariana Grande concerts and all that kind of shit. | ||
| I mean, the people that are trying to stop those people have an insanely difficult job. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| When you're shooting missiles out of robots and you're killing mostly innocent people. | ||
| It's not like close. | ||
| It's not like half and half. | ||
| Like they kill half bad guys, half good guys. | ||
| No, they kill mostly good people. | ||
| But it kind of speaks... | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It speaks more to the position of the president as being a tough fucking job. | ||
| Well, in the face of it. | ||
| Because you can't be a comedian. | ||
| And a comedian can say whatever the fuck, and it's fine because you're a comedian or whatever. | ||
| I would have had better delivery than that. | ||
| But sure, I know. | ||
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It needs a little work. | |
| Of course. | ||
| I'm imagining it right now. | ||
| See it coming? | ||
| A mile away? | ||
| I got two words for you. | ||
| Oh, they're gonna be funny words. | ||
| You know, it's just joking around about something that's, uh, it's dark. | ||
| You know, it's like, you'll never see it coming. | ||
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Ha ha ha. | |
| Like a lot of those people that died. | ||
| Thousands. | ||
| That's kind of fucked up. | ||
| If you were living in a country Where Obama was the guy who made the call and the missiles came from the drones and killed your dad. | ||
| And you have to watch him joke around about shooting missiles at some kids who want to fuck your pretty daughters. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| You know, that's... | ||
| We don't look at it that way because we're over here. | ||
| But how can we? | ||
| How can you process that level of, I don't know, variety? | ||
| That's a shitty word for it, but there's so much shit going on. | ||
| This is why all the social media is happening because along with being a distraction and a problem, it's also helping us cope with the degree of the world. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| There's so many fucking people. | ||
| How... | ||
| How could you ever be sensitive to the entire situation while being an authentic person? | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| Yeah, but I think this is what we were talking about earlier of like trying to I mean at the fucking smallest level of like learn how to apologize but learn learn how to be different from each other and also work together and know that like we have different speeds and different beliefs and You know have compassion And I think that's where it's really crazy to have so much exposure to the global events and become desensitized to | ||
| them because there's so much stuff that eventually you can't compute, you can't process it. | ||
| Obviously, there's no excuse for making jokes about drones and killing people. | ||
| He probably didn't realize it. | ||
| He had to make some jokes and somebody wrote that for him. | ||
| But no, you're totally right. | ||
| There's too much information. | ||
| You're getting news from 7 billion people. | ||
| And we're putting it on one man. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| He is not just one man, but he is... | ||
| A group of people working together, but he has to speak for everyone. | ||
| And so does Trump, and so does whoever is president. | ||
| And that's what's really interesting, is that I think what has happened now with the election of Trump is that people are becoming so much more aware that there's an entire cabinet and Congress, and the people that we elect, that we choose, are going to be part of that entire team. | ||
| And it's really... | ||
| It's focusing people on politics in a way it never has before. | ||
| That's the good thing. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| You get to see corruption in a weird way, like a real transparent way. | ||
| But, speaking of corruption, and I talked to you about this guy about Represent Us, and it's this organization that I went to this meeting and was really informed for the first time. | ||
| I'd never really understood how people in Congress kind of came to be these, you know, runners in these elections, whereas It costs $40,000 to $60,000 a day to run for Congress That's insane. | ||
| And that is legal. | ||
| That's not illegal. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| And Josh Silver, I talked to you about him a little bit, started this organization, and they're working on anti-corruption bills so that anybody can run an incredibly over-accomplished, over-qualified person from, say, Columbia or Harvard or wherever in the world or in the States. | ||
| Who we elected. | ||
| Whereas these people that cost that much money to run, they're controlled by the Koch brothers and all the major oil industries. | ||
| What do they spend the money on if it costs that much a day? | ||
| That's just the game. | ||
| Transportation, advertisement, promotion, staff, all this shit. | ||
| And you don't qualify if you don't play that game. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| You can qualify. | ||
| If you ran for Senate or something, you wouldn't be spending $60,000 a day. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's what's interesting, right? | ||
| Because you have a platform already. | ||
| And people have platforms in the world. | ||
| That's Donald Trump. | ||
| Did you know that when you have a platform, you're running for something? | ||
| Like Stanhope was running for president for a while. | ||
| We had a friend that ran for president. | ||
| What he found while he was running for president is that he couldn't do stand-up shows anymore. | ||
| Because if he was going to do something on stage, if it was like a public forum where people were coming to see him, he would have to allot time for his opponents. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| And he's like, yeah. | ||
| He goes, it's a crazy scam. | ||
| It's like, you can't. | ||
| Rules of the game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of weird, freaky, old-school rules back when people would stand on a soapbox and scream out to a large group of people. | ||
| Those rules still apply. | ||
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Crazy. | |
| But the thing is, you can still, if you have 10 million people being like, that's a stupid rule, or however many it takes, it'll change. | ||
| Maybe, but look, it's still federally illegal to smoke marijuana. | ||
| There's no reason why. | ||
| We did, but it's state legal. | ||
| But federally, it's still illegal. | ||
| So it's not as simple as... | ||
| So am I driving? | ||
| It's not as simple as like 10 million people can say they don't want it anymore. | ||
| You're totally right. | ||
| And that's the same thing, what's going to go on with our political system. | ||
| It's like, yeah, it needs an overhaul. | ||
| Yeah, it needs to be changed. | ||
| It needs to be updated for the internet and the 2017 world that we live in. | ||
| And we need to figure out a better way to do it. | ||
| We don't need the same sort of representative government that we always needed when you had to take a message from a fucking horse... | ||
| The thing is, if you want that to change from the ground up, you're asking the people that are currently in office to bet against themselves. | ||
| To say, hey, let's make it illegal. | ||
| You're asking them to behave as citizens is what you're asking. | ||
| You're asking them to stop thinking that they're better or different than us. | ||
| And that's where it becomes unfathomable. | ||
| Well, they have to. | ||
| How is this possible? | ||
| They have to. | ||
| Just like everybody else has to. | ||
| We all have to realize that we're all the same thing. | ||
| And there's no kings anymore, and there should be. | ||
| I mean, Edward Snowden tweeted this the other day, that people couldn't, at one point in time, couldn't imagine the idea that one day there'd be no kings. | ||
| And they're going to say that, the same thing, about presidents one day. | ||
| It's for sure going to happen. | ||
| The presidents or whoever runs for Congress or Senate, they have to come to an understanding that they are no different than us. | ||
| And just because they're in positions of power, they're not different. | ||
| We're all just people. | ||
| And that if you have extra power over people and you utilize it, you should be ashamed of yourself. | ||
| You should feel horrible. | ||
| Did you guys hear what Chris Christie did? | ||
| The beach thing? | ||
| He closed down the beaches in New Jersey and then vacationed on the beaches with his family. | ||
| They closed him down due to budget cuts. | ||
| He should have put a shirt on. | ||
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He did have a shirt on. | |
| He had a shirt on. | ||
| Is that what that was? | ||
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But he lied. | |
| But he got caught, though, which is interesting. | ||
| He got caught lying. | ||
| They asked him, did you get any sun? | ||
| He said, no, I didn't get any sun. | ||
| Then the pictures came out. | ||
| And he's like, they said, oh, Mr. Christie had a baseball hat on, so he didn't get any sun. | ||
| I'm like, no, that's not a loophole. | ||
| You were lying. | ||
| You're still in the sun. | ||
| You're not in a house. | ||
| If you're not in a house, you're getting sun, you fucking asshole. | ||
| This is that whole play on words bullshit that's happening in the media where it's like, People are, you know, you don't, they just, you know, circumvent around the truth or whatever they're trying to say with just stupid rhetoric. | ||
| It's so annoying. | ||
| I fucking hate it. | ||
| It's changing. | ||
| It's got, and I don't know. | ||
| How is it changing, Ben? | ||
| It's changing because if this was 60 years ago, that news wouldn't have gotten out or there would have been ways to just like... | ||
| Crush that. | ||
| And there still are. | ||
| That's so true, though. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It's definitely changing. | ||
| Yeah, there's kind of a leeway. | ||
| Too many iPhones to hide that stuff. | ||
| Not just that. | ||
| I mean, look what you're doing right now. | ||
| You're talking to millions of people. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Don't tell me that. | ||
| You're saying it to millions of people, and then millions of people are going to have similar conversations because of that. | ||
| When you hear something interesting that someone talks about, you start talking about, hey, I heard this interesting conversation, really made me think about something. | ||
| And then that just wasn't even available 10 years ago. | ||
| It wasn't available 20 years ago. | ||
| Like, all of the social media stuff, all of the, whether it's YouTube, YouTube videos that people can make, or podcasts that people can make, or whatever the fuck it is, or blogs that people can write. | ||
| All of it is just information. | ||
| And that flow of information has never been greater. | ||
| It is an unstoppable river now, you know, to the point where that's why that baked Alaska dude was laughing like the fucking president jumped into the river. | ||
| Like, he's in the crazy river, putting up memes and talking shit about people, joking around about some lady having a fucking plastic surgery. | ||
| She had, like, a facelift, and he said she was bleeding. | ||
| Like, do you believe that? | ||
| Do you believe that the president is saying that? | ||
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It's like, wow! | |
| Well, this is like, what's that movie, that movie, um, uh, with Luke Wilson and, um... | ||
| Idiocracy. | ||
| Idiocracy. | ||
| It's, it's happening. | ||
| It is really happening. | ||
| Well, it's for sure a bad system that no one wants to join in. | ||
| Like, if you're Elon Musk, why the fuck would you want to be president? | ||
| You can bang supermodels and build rocket ships. | ||
| Boom, boom. | ||
| You know about our car? | ||
| Do you know the funny story about our touring vehicle? | ||
| I do not. | ||
| Oh, it's great. | ||
| Drop it. | ||
| So, oh my god, Ben, is it three years ago? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 2015. 2015. So in spring of 2015, we thought it would be, this is when we put Punk Kid up for donations so we could buy a car, so we could tour, and we didn't want to buy a van because that's annoying. | ||
| Who wants a van? | ||
| And we ended up, we were looking at SUVs, and we found a Cadillac Escalade 2007. Suze decided to start. | ||
| Well, they're all the same car. | ||
| P.S. Ford Expeditions, Escalades, Navigators, whatever the year. | ||
| They're the same structure, just different clothes. | ||
| And there was a great deal on a Cadillac Escalade. | ||
| And we had a lot of touring in front of us. | ||
| And we bought it. | ||
| And we were, we bought it with 60,000 miles on it. | ||
| And it was in mint condition, which was really strange. | ||
| And like the, you know, used car salesman's like, yeah, there's clearly no kids in the backseat. | ||
| There's no Cheerios stuck between the seats. | ||
| And so we ended up buying this car. | ||
| And we were looking through the user manual to like, what does this button do? | ||
| And the former owner registration fell out, swear to God, Elon Musk. | ||
| And Ben had this great idea. | ||
| Ben had this great idea to get him to design a Tescalade for better economical touring. | ||
| But to put it into perspective, though, we bought it with 60,000 miles and now it has like 160,000 miles on it. | ||
| And that was just about a little over two years ago. | ||
| Have you seen that shit he's going to do in California where he bores holes under Los Angeles and makes tunnels and you ride on a sled through the tunnel? | ||
| I heard about this, but I heard about this briefly, actually. | ||
| Yeah, you drop down into this tunnel and you don't drive your car. | ||
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Wait, this is like Tron. | |
| Wait, but why do you do that? | ||
| Jamie will pull it up and you can see it. | ||
| So watch what happens. | ||
| Jamie's so fast, dude. | ||
| You pull up to this thing. | ||
| How do you do this, Jamie? | ||
| He's a wizard. | ||
| You pull up to this thing, and it drops you down. | ||
| Drops your car? | ||
| Yeah, it drops you down. | ||
| You get in the queue, and you drop down, and then you get on a sled. | ||
| Your car's on a sled, so you're not driving anymore. | ||
| And your car could be on a solar-powered sled, too, by the way, with all the power we have in LA from the sun. | ||
| I mean, it never stops being sunny out. | ||
| If they wanted to make these giant solar banks to power this thing, I bet they could. | ||
| But there's a video of it, like the idea of it, the animated version of it. | ||
| So, of course, everyone in the street is driving a Tesla. | ||
| There's nothing but Tesla. | ||
| Tesla's. | ||
| I mean, Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| And old, rotten, shitty cars from the 60s. | ||
| You have to pay more to get on the sled? | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| To be the elite? | ||
| Yeah, otherwise you're one of those twats. | ||
|
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Super traffickers? | |
| What? | ||
| So watch this. | ||
| You drop down, and then once you drop down, you are in these tunnels that he's building that are totally earthquake-proof. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| When they fill up with water and kill you and your family don't sweat it Make sure you have your go bag ready I'm a fan of this. | ||
| And your oxygen mask. | ||
| This is like premium access freeways. | ||
| I just need everybody to understand that when the 1,000 foot waves come, you will not survive in these fucking tubes. | ||
| They will fill up with water and you will drown. | ||
| Joe, I'm so scared. | ||
| Most likely that tsunami's not coming. | ||
| But if and when. | ||
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This is insane. | |
| That's a wrap. | ||
| A lot of thumbs down. | ||
| Yeah, because people are freaking out about the ocean. | ||
| We're right next to the fucking ocean and the ground moves. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We should be flying, Elon! | ||
| Flying cars! | ||
| Where's your goddamn hovercraft? | ||
| We're going to do it on Mars, dude. | ||
| They fly in cars that have batteries in the front so they can't hit each other, so they, like, repel. | ||
| Well, I watch bumper cars. | ||
| Well, I watch bumper cars. | ||
| Well, repel. | ||
| You don't want to bump, dude. | ||
| You want to repel. | ||
| Like, two magnets. | ||
| Ben, don't bump. | ||
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Repel. | |
| Jesus, man. | ||
| Magnets. | ||
| I watched this vice. | ||
| Hold on, I'm writing that down. | ||
| I watched this vice last night that scared the Jesus out of me. | ||
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What was it? | |
| And it was, um, they were showing just... | ||
| You know, technological intelligence to overtake cars and control the computers in the cars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was crazy. | ||
| It was just like hacking. | ||
| Hacking into any kind of car and I'm gonna shut you down and run you off this cliff or I'm gonna, you know, fuck with you and make your windows go up and down. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I mean, I don't want to be scared. | ||
| I don't want to live with like, oh God, and I try not to, but that's fucking crazy. | ||
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| You know that journalist, they think the big conspiracy theory is that he was killed because they overtook the controls of his car and slammed him into a tree and made him go 120 miles an hour. | ||
| What? | ||
| What was his name? | ||
| Michael... | ||
| He was a famous journalist who wrote a story in the Rolling Stones about a general. | ||
| And it was... | ||
| He was embedded with them. | ||
| I believe it was in Iraq. | ||
| It might have been Afghanistan. | ||
| And he was... | ||
| Was it Petraeus? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It wasn't about Petraeus. | ||
| It was another general. | ||
| No, no, it was a different general. | ||
| Michael Hastings was his name. | ||
| Michael Hastings, thank you. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So he wrote this article about this general and the general had to step down because the general was joking around about Obama or something like that and there was just like some, he got a little loose. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| There's a close sitting footage? | ||
| I don't think I want one. | ||
| So this, apparently, they tried to say that he committed suicide. | ||
| And some people believe he did commit suicide. | ||
| And some people believe, so he's just flying down and just slams into a tree and his fucking car blows up. | ||
| Here's the thing though, and this is like in the interest of full disclosure, they apparently said that they found amphetamines on him, on his body, right? | ||
| So that could mean that he was under the influence of amphetamines when it happened, or it could mean that he takes Adderall, because a lot of journalists take Adderall. | ||
| So if they found it in his system, it doesn't necessarily mean he was speeded up when he was driving like a fucking maniac because he was off the rails. | ||
| It could just easily have meant that he uses Adderall to get his workload done, which a shitload of journalists do. | ||
| So it might not have meant anything. | ||
| And we talked to people that are experts. | ||
| Boy, people that are experts that weigh in on conspiracy car crash evidence, they're weirdos. | ||
| It's hard to find, like, who's right and who's wrong. | ||
| But some people said that the way the car had separated, the way the engine had exploded and launched itself from the car indicates some sort of an explosion, more it does an impact. | ||
| You know, because it just all, you know, hit the tree and blew up all at once. | ||
| But again, could be bullshit. | ||
| But it is fucked up because the guy wrote a very, he wrote a very scathing article about this general and it made the general retire. | ||
| And I know that guy got a shit tone of death threats. | ||
| And he was telling everybody that if somebody kills me, like be sure that I didn't kill myself. | ||
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Fuck! | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| They can take over your car because your car's a computer. | ||
| Your car, a lot of cars today, are connected to the internet through Wi-Fi. | ||
| A lot of cars. | ||
| Like, they have their own Wi-Fi hub. | ||
| Like, you buy a new Escalade, it comes with a Wi-Fi hub, so all the people in the car can play on their iPads or whatever while you're driving. | ||
| You link up to the internet that's on the actual car itself. | ||
| That's a computer. | ||
| It's a computer. | ||
| It's connected to the net. | ||
| You drive it around. | ||
|
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You know? | |
| Somebody just gets in there I mean, there's no bounds at this point. | ||
| There's no bounds. | ||
|
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There's no bounds. | |
| How can you keep things organized probably isn't the right way, but how do you keep us all alive without surrendering personal freedom? | ||
| Like, boom, boom. | ||
| Like, we kind of have a crazy... | ||
| What's going on? | ||
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That's a very good question. | |
| This ladder stopped working on it. | ||
| Let's see what the deal was. | ||
| Yeah, we don't have to talk about that. | ||
| You know, you don't... | ||
| You don't really have an answer to that question, because we don't even know what they could really do right now. | ||
| Well, especially if part of the important thing we need to accept is that we're all the same thing, then we have to accept that we all have to start acting like the same thing at the same time, right? | ||
| That's a very good point, but it gets lost when you start talking about people that are in the military and that are dealing with national emergencies or national security situations. | ||
| When you make a general retire because you chose to write an article about some things you heard him say that gets him fired and then somehow or another the military becomes compromised because this very important leader is no longer in a position of power. | ||
| That's a very tricky situation. | ||
| It's very tricky. | ||
| You did get the scoop and you did get to say how this guy was communicating candidly. | ||
| But these things are happening interdependently and also completely enmeshed. | ||
| Like, you can't enmesh the way that all these things, technology, blah, blah, blah, is developing. | ||
| But there's no way this dude, they can control that much. | ||
| There's no way people can control... | ||
| Where this is going and by this I mean everything to that degree. | ||
| So you just have to right deal with all these new Phenomenon that are happening. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| Look at this This is the article the runaway general the profile that brought down McChrystal Rolling Stone profile of Stanley McChrystal that changed history. | ||
| That's crazy that one article can get a general fired Change history. | ||
| And it's crazy the guy who wrote it is dead. | ||
| Dead as fuck. | ||
| And they think dead from a crazy conspiracy. | ||
| Michael Hastings. | ||
| You know, who the fuck knows? | ||
| But boy does it get exciting. | ||
| What's in the right corner? | ||
| Is that something about... | ||
|
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Brad Pitt. | |
| Brad Pitt. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So he's playing the general in this movie? | ||
| He's playing a runaway general. | ||
| There's this Netflix movie called War Machine. | ||
| Movie based on Rolling Stone reporter Michael Hastings. | ||
| Wow, they're doing a movie based on that thing happening. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Oh, it's already out, yeah. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, it's on Netflix now. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| I didn't know that's what it was about. | ||
| It's a Netflix movie? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Dude, Netflix almost has too much content. | ||
| It's overwhelming. | ||
| It's overwhelming. | ||
| And it's funny because there's so much content that the quality is not that great. | ||
| So you get some shows and like this weekend I had this like 25 minutes in. | ||
| No. | ||
| I just couldn't fucking land on anything. | ||
| What were you trying to land on? | ||
| Something with substance and just more thought. | ||
| And I ended up watching Harry Potter Goblet of Fire and I was so happy with my choice. | ||
| It's like you found what you were looking for. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| I just started reading Harry Potter. | ||
| Let's leap to that. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Harry Potter is an important figure, dude. | ||
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We can't ignore it. | |
| And let's be honest, there's a lot of parallels to the wizarding world and our fucking weird world and politics. | ||
| There's politics in the wizarding world as well. | ||
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Word. | |
| Do you do magic? | ||
| Did you guys ever go to the Harry Potter ride at Universal? | ||
| No, not yet. | ||
| I haven't finished. | ||
| I'm a book and a half. | ||
| From finishing, so I don't know what happens. | ||
| Don't fuck it up for me. | ||
| No, the ride. | ||
| I'm talking about the ride at Universal. | ||
| Yeah, but I don't want to entertain. | ||
| Do you really think I know the plot to any of those fucking books? | ||
| I feel like you do and you're just plain cool. | ||
| Let us tell you, Joe. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Let's act this out. | ||
| So it's not decided who's driving. | ||
| There's more in the back, too. | ||
| Oh, I'll drive. | ||
| Here, give it to me. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Do you have any protein bars? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Plenty of protein bars. | ||
| We're going to be fine. | ||
| Just always Uber. | ||
| Worry not, my friends. | ||
| We'll get through this with a steady hand. | ||
| There's no concern. | ||
| But the Harry Potter ride at Universal is the shit. | ||
| It's really fun. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| You've been there. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's fun. | ||
| It's really fun. | ||
| Does it feel... | ||
| I was telling you about this. | ||
| Maybe it's the same thing. | ||
| Don't you get on a broom and it feels like you're flying? | ||
| It's not a broom. | ||
| You're sitting in a chair, but you're flying around. | ||
| Yeah, like you kind of would be if you were in a broom. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on. | ||
| There's dragons and shit. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's a really good ride. | ||
| It's really well made. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| I was a Harry Potter late bloomer, okay? | ||
| I was all Lord of the Rings. | ||
| I read Dune. | ||
| I love Dune. | ||
| You know, I'm a total nerd. | ||
| And... | ||
| I didn't read Harry Potter and Ben really encouraged me this past year and he got me The Sorcerer's Stone, which is the first book. | ||
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And I just can't stop. | |
| But you don't have to. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I can't tell you how much joy it's brought me as an adult. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I feel like I have an affinity for fighting darkness just in myself. | ||
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Why? | |
| Because I'm fucking dark. | ||
| But I'm also very light. | ||
| So, you know, as such is life. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| Yeah, here we go. | ||
| You're going in. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going in. | ||
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But I... For the folks listening at home, they both make digging emotions. | |
| One of the last books. | ||
| The last books. | ||
| The last book was The Order of the Phoenix, which is very political because there's a political presence, there's a government within the wizarding community, and it was just really interesting to be reading that while also watching our local news and our global news. | ||
| It's all part of the same story in terms of manipulation and what we... | ||
| Interpret as truth. | ||
| And it was just an interesting experience to read that book and then to listen to my favorite podcasts and news outlets and be like, this isn't any different than Harry Potter. | ||
| It's all based on the familiarity of problems in human nature, right? | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| It's all based on good and evil and fuck-ups and ego and power and control and battles. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Correction. | ||
| Value of J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter business is worth $25 billion. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| That seems like a lot. | ||
| How do you get a piece of that? | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| She's rolling. | ||
| How do you think she's willing to get married? | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| No, I should save the joke. | ||
|
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You got a joke? | |
| No, I'm going to save the joke. | ||
| You guys know this is live, right? | ||
| Don't argue over saving jokes. | ||
| Just say the fucking joke. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| This better be good. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| She's doing it. | ||
| We hotboxed her. | ||
| She didn't even smoke. | ||
| Oh, I can't. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Don't do it. | ||
| It's not my joke. | ||
| It's not my joke. | ||
| Let's just pull out of this. | ||
| It's not my joke. | ||
| We're about to hit the ocean. | ||
| How did Harry Potter get down the hill? | ||
| How? | ||
| Walking. | ||
| JK Rowling. | ||
| Solid! | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's not my joke. | ||
| I didn't come up with it. | ||
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I heard a second hand. | |
| It's like a third hand. | ||
| J.K. Rowling is the punchline. | ||
| And also the author of the famous Harry Potter books. | ||
| See, I knew this was a bad idea. | ||
| Nope, it's over. | ||
| This is a little rough delivery. | ||
| You say, walking. | ||
| J.K. Rowling. | ||
| Don't put this on me, Laura. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| J.K. meaning just kidding? | ||
| JK Rowling. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| I'm starting to like it better now. | ||
| I'm just so glad you told that on Joe's podcast. | ||
|
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Dad jokes. | |
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| I love dad jokes. | ||
| I love stupid jokes. | ||
| Get at me. | ||
|
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She's owning it. | |
| She's owning it. | ||
| I made a plan. | ||
|
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Thank God. | |
| Hey, tell me about this fucking crazy guitar you guys have that somebody gave you. | ||
| Oh, the National. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| It's outside. | ||
| What happened with that guitar? | ||
| That thing's insane. | ||
| It's a beautiful guitar. | ||
| There's a company called National. | ||
| That thing is insane looking. | ||
| They gave us one. | ||
| Well, I think they like us, but they also like you. | ||
| That was a part of it. | ||
| We have to admit that. | ||
| Thank you, Joe. | ||
| I didn't do anything. | ||
| Thank you, them. | ||
| That's a crazy-looking guitar. | ||
| That's not a normal guitar. | ||
| Yeah, it's a resonator, so it has... | ||
| I can't actually remember. | ||
| I think it has tricone resonators. | ||
| Go grab that thing. | ||
| Show me the thing. | ||
| You want to hear some music? | ||
| Is that what you're getting at? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I want to see that guitar. | ||
| That's it right there, right? | ||
| That's closer to it. | ||
| No, that's not it, but it's close. | ||
|
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Pioneer? | |
| Is that it, Ben? | ||
| No, that's not the one. | ||
| Now, I thought a guitar had to be made out of wood. | ||
| No! | ||
| I mean, well, this is technically... | ||
| Well, it's a different kind of guitar. | ||
| Some call them Dobros. | ||
| I'm definitely not claiming any guitar knowledge. | ||
| So there's a cone inside of... | ||
| I feel like I want Ben here so I don't book this up. | ||
| But there's a resonator inside, like a speaker, inside of... | ||
| See how there's all this kind of mesh? | ||
| Will you go back up? | ||
| That one, yeah. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's like a built-in speaker, and you can plug them in so they're electric. | ||
| So it's a speaker like a car speaker, like a stereo speaker? | ||
| Not necessarily, no. | ||
| So it's electronic? | ||
| Without electronics, there's a cone inside that the sound resonates louder, like a banjo kind of a little bit. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So it's not like a stereo speaker, like a Bluetooth speaker. | ||
| It's not powered. | ||
| Well, Jamie's an actual audio engineer. | ||
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It's not powered. | |
| But it has a specific tone to it that isn't like your regular acoustic or electric guitar. | ||
| And when you plug it in, it sounds amazing. | ||
| And it has sort of like a down-homey vibe, and it's beautiful. | ||
| Down-homey vibe. | ||
| Isn't that interesting? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Down homey vibe. | ||
| Like, down homey music. | ||
| Like, acoustic music is like down homey music, right? | ||
| Well, um, yeah. | ||
| I mean, folk music and soul music are down home. | ||
| Resonator for guitar, cover plate for biscuit bridge. | ||
| Ben, I might have butchered the whole explanation of what a national is, and I really hope that you can help me. | ||
| She nailed it. | ||
| Okay, so is there any wood on that? | ||
| Is the back of that thing wood? | ||
| The fretboard's wood, and the headstock and the neck. | ||
| I'm gonna pee. | ||
| But the body's metal. | ||
|
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That thing's insane looking, man. | |
| And so what kind of a different sound does this thing make than a regular guitar? | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| So it's just a lot louder, it cuts a lot more, it's more resonant. | ||
| It's got a metal sound to it. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| So one, if I had a slide, these things are great for playing slide with. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Jamie's got something. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| A lighter? | ||
| I'll probably fuck that up. | ||
| But you can kind of... | ||
| You want a round one or a flat one? | ||
| But you can kind of hear it, maybe. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Yeah, I sound like shit, but you know what I mean. | ||
| Some old school blues shit. | ||
| What is that there? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Cigar. | ||
| Cigar. | ||
| Try that round cigar thing. | ||
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Cohiba. | |
| Ooh. | ||
| Whenever I hear that kind of shit, I think of like, oh, blues. | ||
| Yeah, because all that Robert Johnson stuff, he's playing slot. | ||
| All that. | ||
| He probably didn't have a resonator, though. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, I suck in playing a slap, but it's... | ||
|
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Are you a John Lee Hooker fan? | |
| Oh yeah, my God. | ||
|
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God damn, is that guy a bad motherfucker. | |
| Is he still around? | ||
| No, he's dead. | ||
| When did he pass? | ||
| Maybe 10 years ago. | ||
| Because he was old. | ||
| He was playing when he was in his 90s. | ||
| I didn't discover him until he was probably in his 80s. 2001. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom, boom. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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You know what? | |
| This will be big ups on Gary. | ||
| We saw Gary for the first time. | ||
| He was just acoustic. | ||
| We played this show with him. | ||
| This was like 2011 or something. | ||
| And he made me feel like John Lee Hooker. | ||
| Because it was just him. | ||
| And there's this hypnosis that he can kind of set over you. | ||
| That's like a real blues. | ||
| That's where you get deeper into it. | ||
| These guys can really play that. | ||
| Music. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| John Lee Hooker, you listen to it and you're kind of like in trance. | ||
| Jamie, find my Instagram where Honey Honey had Gary Clark together on stage and you guys were doing Midnight Rider. | ||
| I filmed a little bit of it and put it up on Instagram. | ||
| It was just so crazy. | ||
| I did everything that I hate people doing at comedy clubs. | ||
| Nerd. | ||
| Oh, look, there's my hat. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Like, listen to that. | ||
| That's so Gary Clark. | ||
| He's so cool. | ||
| That's me playing. | ||
| Both of you. | ||
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Now it's not here. | |
| Ah, it's so fucking good. | ||
| It feels so fucking good. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| I got a lot of crap for this. | ||
| I know, because she had to check the lyrics. | ||
| But let me just explain this for all the assholes that gave her crap. | ||
| Oh, I got so much crap for that. | ||
| She didn't know the words to the song. | ||
| They did this impromptu song live on stage in front of all these people. | ||
| And she had to check her phone for the lyrics. | ||
| I had to block some dude who was being such a fucking cock. | ||
| And I was like, I'm sorry. | ||
| Don't mention him. | ||
| Don't mention him. | ||
| I'm not going to. | ||
| He just needs attention. | ||
| Screw that dude. | ||
| But I, you know, whatever. | ||
| Shit happens. | ||
| You know, it was such a fun night. | ||
| We did a song I didn't know and I wanted to sing the words properly and I had to look them up on my phone. | ||
| Listen to me, Suzanne. | ||
| But someone thought I was texting some dude and that wasn't the case. | ||
| Thousands of people enjoyed that. | ||
| One or two were cunts and you're focusing on the wrong ones. | ||
| Thank you, Joe. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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It was amazing. | |
| You've always been on social media, Yoda. | ||
| You are! | ||
| You gotta just know when to stop. | ||
| Put out the right vibe, be yourself, and get the fuck out of Dodge when shit gets weird. | ||
| Just get away. | ||
| You can't control it. | ||
| You definitely can't argue with it. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| It is an effort to not care because... | ||
| But you do care. | ||
| We should all care. | ||
| Well, I just love people. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Unless you're a really shitty person, it's hard. | ||
| And I want to love that person, too. | ||
| But it's not about caring. | ||
| It's because you're going to care. | ||
| It's about recognizing what that person is and then not letting them into your house. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| You know what that is. | ||
| It's a dummy. | ||
| They just want to get mad about stuff. | ||
| Especially if you found out what it was, that you were just checking the lyrics to a song that you'd never sang before and you were singing live with Gary Clark Jr. in front of a fuck, and it was like midnight in downtown LA in some weird-ass bar. | ||
| Oh man, that was weird. | ||
| Yeah, that was weird. | ||
| That was badass. | ||
| Makes me want to move to downtown LA. Does it? | ||
| Live like Batman. | ||
| Some sort of a warehouse and fucking have an English dude wash his shit over from him. | ||
| Batman's pretty unhappy, Joe. | ||
| So you think from the outside. | ||
| You don't know him, man. | ||
| People might think you're unhappy. | ||
| All those musicians, they're all dark. | ||
| Why is Batman unhappy? | ||
| Because he's lonely as fuck. | ||
| How do you know what he's talking about? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I feel like all the movies are going into how bummed out he is all the time. | ||
| Because he can't share what he's doing. | ||
| Because he has to live in secret? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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He could. | |
| He just needs a couple of good friends. | ||
| He can't get the validation. | ||
| Yeah, he's got one old British dude. | ||
| One old friend. | ||
| And funny. | ||
| He just needs more friends. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, if I was Batman, I feel like I could tell you and you wouldn't tell anybody. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| Joe, I had to break through two. | ||
| You are Batman. | ||
| There's a few people. | ||
| Did you ever see that? | ||
| It was actually a comic book. | ||
| It was a forgetful professor. | ||
| It was a professor in the comic book. | ||
| This guy was forgetful about all these different things, but he was like a super genius professor. | ||
| And at the end of the comic book, he recognized that he was actually an alien from another planet that came down to Earth to help us innovate. | ||
| I hate to break it to you, Joe, but you are also an alien from another planet that came down here to You know it's true. | ||
| You guys should do more of those weird little downtown shows though. | ||
| We should. | ||
| You should. | ||
| Those were fun. | ||
| That was so strange. | ||
| It was a really fun night. | ||
| Midnight. | ||
| And it was so great because you were there. | ||
| That's why it was great. | ||
| We had a great time. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| It was pretty fucking badass. | ||
| Yeah, that was amazing. | ||
| Intimate shows are so big. | ||
| They're so different, you know? | ||
| Like, you almost kind of have to do them. | ||
| Like, if you just J-Lo the whole thing, and you're on these big-ass giant stages for the rest of your life... | ||
| Is she on big-ass giant stages? | ||
|
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I would imagine. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| If she's doing anything, she's going to be, like, separated from everybody. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Right? | ||
| You're not getting close to that. | ||
| White rose petals on her feet and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Damn. | |
| But I mean, I think that... | ||
| One day, Ben. | ||
| One day. | ||
| As attractive as that is... | ||
| We're gonna do it. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| There's the counterpoint. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want that. | ||
| As attractive as that thought seems, that's like the worst thing that could ever happen to you. | ||
| Because it gets so separated from everybody that you're up on some giant-ass stage and everywhere you go you can't interact with people. | ||
| It depends. | ||
| Making all that money. | ||
| We just both saw Roger Waters two weeks ago and it was incredible. | ||
| Tony went. | ||
| He said it was insane. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| And I think there's a... | ||
| Well, I mean, there's a reason that he's doing what he's doing and people are coming to see him because it's incredible and it's authentic and it's raw and that man has... | ||
| Obviously, he has teams around him that help build that show. | ||
| He doesn't do that by himself. | ||
| But it was... | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| It wasn't white rose petals. | ||
| It was beautiful music. | ||
| No, but that's different. | ||
| That's a different thing. | ||
| That's a different thing. | ||
| Well, and that's that fast food thing we were kind of talking about earlier. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And I think there's a place for that, too. | ||
| Sometimes you're fucking starving and you need something right now. | ||
| There's also a lot of money in being that icon, that diva, that thing. | ||
| It's a very attractive position to try to attain. | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| You just run a little too close to the sun and burn the wax off your wings. | ||
| Some of it's authentic and some of it is totally you are a machine. | ||
| You are part of the manufactured idealism that you represent. | ||
| And that is a heavy burden. | ||
| I don't wish that on anybody. | ||
| What's probably not inauthentic is people's ambition to get there. | ||
| I think the people in those positions are so fucking ravenous for that kind of attention. | ||
| And that's the only way you would possibly climb to the top of that mountain. | ||
| Yeah, you have to be fucking focused. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| I think some people are manipulated. | ||
| Like Michael Jackson? | ||
| I think some people have an idea of the art and they're also exploited within that realm because some parts of the record industry are fucking insidious. | ||
| You know and they take like remember you were talking about that documentary with these like 15 year old kids that were so talented But they were like clearly just getting just sucked into the thing You're too young to know what you're doing There's just no ifs ands or buts about it in order to make the decision to be a giant like Michael Jackson like we're talking about Jackson 5 earlier Like when you sing an ABC. I mean he was a fucking baby. | ||
| Yeah, he was a baby and he was on TV and You know, he was on, he was a huge star. | ||
| But also, like, he had his family running the show, and it was like a really fucked up dynamic. | ||
| And so it was almost like his, I mean, don't get me wrong, his talent was undeniable, but like, his family were the record industry in that respect. | ||
| But dude, his talent was so undeniable that he was the youngest one, and he got to sing. | ||
| Could you imagine, you grew up with four bad motherfuckers as brothers, your dad is a professional musician, and you are so good, they're like, okay, let him sing. | ||
| Everybody else must have wanted to sing. | ||
| They all did their solo projects afterwards. | ||
| They didn't say shit while Michael had the microphone. | ||
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They're just like, let him sing, let him sing, let him sing. | |
| Just let him sing. | ||
| And people reacted to that in real way, right? | ||
| I mean, that's what, you know, there's the exploitative aspect. | ||
| And then it's like, everybody wanted to fucking see him sing. | ||
| I wish I saw him sing. | ||
| It was two things. | ||
| It was this emergence of this incredible sound that came out of this one person and all the different projects that he was involved in. | ||
| And then it was also the tragic, almost like decimating of a potential life. | ||
| Because his life existed so strongly in the public eye that it didn't exist anywhere else in a normal form. | ||
| Outside, it was just a chaos, a mess of hanging out with kids and weird relationships with women that didn't seem real and living in an amusement park. | ||
| It was just a mess. | ||
| It was just a total disaster. | ||
| Like, everything outside of the magic that he did in the public eye was just hell. | ||
| It's really weird because what he did in the public eye, like Thriller and Beat It and all those different things, I mean, they were so, so intense. | ||
| Like, I was in high school when all that stuff was going on, and I remember just watching Thriller on television, you know, when they had the premiere, the music video, and everybody sat around and watched Thriller when it came out. | ||
| There was nothing like that ever. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
|
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Ever. | |
| Ever. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Like, sort of like when Hendrix came along, there was nothing like that before. | ||
| Well, when Michael Jackson came along, there was nothing like that before either. | ||
| You're like, what the fuck? | ||
| Like, someone had taken the whole thing and put it in this totally new package, where it was like this feminine guy, and he had one glove on, and he was dancing, and everybody wanted to move like him, and it's like, what in the fuck? | ||
| Right, well this is kind of back to your Freddie Mercury kind of dick out thing. | ||
| It's like he did what he wanted to do and he was iconic because of it. | ||
| I think that's part of it. | ||
| It's like you just have to own it. | ||
| Well, but he did it on a level... | ||
| That was undeniable, just like you talked about before, because of his ambition. | ||
| It wasn't just, I'm going to be me. | ||
| It was like, I am going to be me to the furthest extent that I possibly fucking can. | ||
| And this is what happened. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I have a friend who went to his house up in Los Olivos, and they toured his dance studio. | ||
| And he had this private dance studio, and there's mirrors against the wall, and there's this groove in the floor. | ||
| And this is, you know, he was later in his life at this point, but he had worn out a part of the floor from just practicing his shit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And this is way beyond his teens and 20s. | ||
| That's just like who he was all the time. | ||
| You know what people don't respect? | ||
| That song Dragon Attack. | ||
|
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I don't know that song. | |
| I don't know, but you stared into my soul when you said it. | ||
| You don't know the Queen song, Dragon Attack? | ||
| I know the troll song. | ||
| Ogre Battle? | ||
| I know Ogre Battle. | ||
| It's one of those songs that people forgot. | ||
| Can we play it? | ||
|
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I don't know the song. | |
| We could play it, but the people on YouTube can't hear it, and we'll probably have to... | ||
| We could play it for us, though, right? | ||
| We have to do some fancy editing. | ||
|
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Probably. | |
| We're going to get in trouble. | ||
| We get yanked off YouTube for everything. | ||
| We show a video of a caterpillar, and we get yanked off YouTube. | ||
| Wait, we can't use YouTube? | ||
| We got yanked the last time we did. | ||
| We get yanked off YouTube for stuff. | ||
| Like when we put things on the air that are on YouTube that someone else has... | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| This is... | ||
| This is Dragon Attack. | ||
| People don't... | ||
| They don't remember this. | ||
| Just think about... | ||
| Give me some volume. | ||
| Like... | ||
|
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Come on. | |
| Meth. | ||
| That dick's just out. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
|
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Come on. - Nasty. | |
| It's an unforgotten classic. | ||
| You have to have Brian May... | ||
| It gets better. | ||
| ...on your podcast. | ||
| Who? | ||
|
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The guitar... | |
| Dick's out. | ||
| Dick's out! | ||
|
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Woo! | |
| What? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It feels so good. | ||
|
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Alright, we'll have to fade out here. | |
| We'll have to fade out here. | ||
| We'll get in trouble. | ||
| Come on, dragon attack. | ||
| People have slept on dragon attack. | ||
| That shit is nasty. | ||
| That's one of the Queen's best songs. | ||
| It's just occurring to me right now. | ||
| What is that sound? | ||
| Do you hear that? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Check to see if that's my car. | ||
| This is the cigar holder. | ||
| Maybe the feds. | ||
| It's the building? | ||
|
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Oh, no. | |
| Oh, is there a fire alarm? | ||
| Oh, it's probably next door. | ||
| He's getting robbed. | ||
| Should we go intervene, guys? | ||
| What kind of weapons do you have in this place? | ||
| Oh, we've got Joe Rogan. | ||
| We've got a lot of shit. | ||
| Maces. | ||
| Joe, you are a human weapon. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| There's bullets. | ||
| Bullets are super hard to defend against. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I told you I saw Baby Driver last night. | ||
| Baby Driver, yeah, you were saying it earlier. | ||
| Oh my god, everyone needs to see it. | ||
| That's what I keep hearing. | ||
| Speaking of incredible music and just a great story, it's the... | ||
| You guys hear that sound? | ||
| That sound in the background is preventing us from playing you beautiful, harmonious music. | ||
| But we just can't. | ||
| Same laugh. | ||
| Are you laughing? | ||
| I keep trying to ask him... | ||
| What do you want to ask? | ||
| You've got to get Brian May on your podcast. | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| What's going on, Young Jeremy? | ||
| Nobody's next door, and the alarm's going off, so this will be going on forever. | ||
| And this is why we're moving. | ||
|
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It's kind of cool. | |
| We should turn it into a rap song. | ||
| Like NWA, you know, his like, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. | ||
| You know, we can kind of just... | ||
| I would imagine that these things have a time limit where they're allowed to stay on. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| The alert needs to be... | ||
| We're going to find out. | ||
| Fervent and... | ||
| Yeah, but what happens? | ||
| We weren't here, so it goes back on. | ||
| And then the security people have to come. | ||
|
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Is somebody getting robbed? | |
| What's next door? | ||
| Is it worth checking out? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not anything exciting? | ||
| Just a bunch of shit. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
|
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Bummer. | |
| We might have to wrap this bitch up. | ||
| Can we talk through that? | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| What's that? | ||
| Maybe like a minute or two and I'll see if there's someone out there that's going to unlock it or stop it soon, but I don't know if it'll stop. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder what's going to happen. | ||
| This could be one of our shortest pod... | ||
|
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Oh, I don't know. | |
| How long have we been going? | ||
| We've been going for a while. | ||
| It's already 4.30. | ||
| We've been going since 2, right? | ||
| So I think that there's probably not a lot of people working today. | ||
| Because today's Monday the 3rd, tomorrow's the 4th. | ||
| People just say, fuck Monday then. | ||
| Yeah, that's fine. | ||
| You get that extra day. | ||
| Independence Day. | ||
| Tomorrow's the day where people are going to do some stupid shit with some fireworks. | ||
| What are you doing tomorrow? | ||
| Grilling. | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| Oh, man, that's great. | ||
| That's what you're doing later, too. | ||
| Can we still come over? | ||
| Are we grilling tonight? | ||
| We're grilling tonight. | ||
| Tonight we're going to grill some Axis deer. | ||
| I'm so excited. | ||
| Fresh from Hawaii. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| How did you get... | ||
| You just ship it with you on the plane? | ||
| Is there some sort of special... | ||
| You just freeze it. | ||
| Freeze it before you take it back. | ||
| You know, put it in the cooler. | ||
| Wow. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Do you have a... | ||
| You're permitted for a certain number of deer that you can... | ||
| Not in Lanai. | ||
| In Lanai, they don't have any predators. | ||
| So you could really... | ||
| I only shot one of them. | ||
| They're really hard to get with a bow and arrow. | ||
| It's hard to get close to them. | ||
| They're super... | ||
| They evolved with tigers. | ||
|
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What? | |
| They're so fast. | ||
| This happened more than once. | ||
| I shot at one and it ran away from the arrow. | ||
| The arrow is going 200 and... | ||
| Well, I had to switch arrows because I had heavier arrows that go 245 feet a second. | ||
| And in the mid-hunt, we had to switch to these other arrows that go 275 feet a second. | ||
| I had to gain an extra 30 feet a second. | ||
| Because the deer would... | ||
| Even then, they still ducked it. | ||
| They would look at the arrow coming their way and get the fuck out of the dog. | ||
| They're like, yeah, bitch. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| I mean, you know how fast that is? | ||
|
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That's so fast. | |
| Because they literally evolved running away from tigers. | ||
| Crazy, man. | ||
|
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I don't think there's any chance that it's going off anytime soon. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no one around. | ||
| We don't have to play. | ||
| We got issues, folks. | ||
| Or we could play with a soundtrack. | ||
| We don't have to play. | ||
|
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It's up to you. | |
| We could. | ||
| We could definitely just keep doing it. | ||
| Does it bother you that this thing is going on? | ||
| It's kind of faded into the background for me. | ||
| No, it's cool. | ||
| I mean, I've had a few drinks at this point. | ||
| I feel pretty warm. | ||
| I have a couple of more. | ||
| I feel really inspired. | ||
| If you guys smell smoke, let me know. | ||
|
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Do you want to play some jams? | |
| I sounded Russian. | ||
| It was a little... | ||
| Some chimps. | ||
| Do you want to play some songs? | ||
| I was at this place. | ||
| Playtime for Putin. | ||
| In New York. | ||
| It had a tiger pelt. | ||
| It's a famous tiger pelt. | ||
| A real one? | ||
| A real one. | ||
| Donde in New York. | ||
| It's called the Explorers Club. | ||
| This place is crazy. | ||
|
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Oh, wow. | |
| Is this like some S&M shit, Ben? | ||
| Tell us. | ||
| Anyplace can be an S&M place. | ||
| So it's like a safari type deal? | ||
| Like one of those clubs? | ||
| Maybe late 1800s Teddy Roosevelt started this place. | ||
|
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Oh, of course! | |
| With a bunch of bros. | ||
| And they have all this taxidermy in this room. | ||
| And one of them is this pelt of a tiger, a tigress. | ||
| That killed 48 people. | ||
| What? | ||
| In India. | ||
| It was a phenomenon. | ||
| It got a taste for blood and started hunting men. | ||
| Or people. | ||
| I don't know if it was just men. | ||
| But they had this thing on the wall which was insane. | ||
| You know, that's a real issue in India. | ||
| In India, there's one part of this river that's very brackish, and the tigers drink this salt water. | ||
| And because of the typhoons, a lot of times they wind up having a bunch of people wash up in the river, and the tigers wind up eating people. | ||
| So they developed a penchant. | ||
| Yeah, they have a taste for humans. | ||
| To the point where there's one section of India. | ||
| Over the past 200 years, tigers have killed over 300,000 people. | ||
| Why the fuck are people still going there? | ||
| It was a bit from one of my specials. | ||
| It was a bit from Talking Monkeys in Space. | ||
| Okay, Ben, you can yell. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It really is true. | ||
| Why are people going there? | ||
| They live there. | ||
| They're poor. | ||
| After the first 100,000, you're like, we should leave. | ||
| There's nothing really they could do about it. | ||
| So it's not just, it's like they've evolved in that way? | ||
| It's not just like one main, you know, predatory tiger that's all... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| There's many, many, many, many tigers over hundreds of years. | ||
| The tigers have gotten used to eating people. | ||
| Tigers are particularly ruthless. | ||
| It's that funny story when you're like, I'm afraid of sharks and sharks don't eat people. | ||
| They don't like the way we taste. | ||
| How the fuck do you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They just don't expect us. | ||
| They could be like, actually, I took a bite and that was fucking delicious. | ||
| It's like if you expected you were going to get cottage cheese, but instead you got a cantaloupe, you'd kind of freak out. | ||
| But you might really get into cantaloupes after a while. | ||
| You'd be like, I fucking love divers. | ||
| You know, divers are delicious. | ||
| What is this, bouillonnaise? | ||
| Oh, I like it. | ||
| I eat them in the wetsuit, dude. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Well, you know that's not a seal, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's a diver. | ||
| It's like a bougie person. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| You fuck? | ||
|
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I know exactly what it is. | |
| My fucking worst nightmare. | ||
| Yeah, this one section of this river in India, I did this whole bit about it in my 2009 comedy special because there was a real story about a boat of people. | ||
| There was five guys in this boat and three of them were killed by tigers. | ||
| So the tiger swam out to the boat, jumped in, killed a guy, dragged him into the water, swam to the shore, dropped his body off, jumped back in the water, swam out to the boat again, got the next guy, swam back to the shore. | ||
| He was a tiger hoarder. | ||
| He was just on a killing spree. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| Three guys. | ||
| This is real, Joe? | ||
| Why did he make friends with him? | ||
| I feel like everything you say is real. | ||
| It's totally real. | ||
| I wouldn't lie to you about something so important. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It's a danger. | ||
| Just stop and think about what that must have been like in the last two guys. | ||
| This is where I stay home at my apartment in Silver Lake. | ||
| Oh my god, the terror. | ||
| That's what we need. | ||
| Tigers roaming the streets of Silver Lake. | ||
| We have coyotes. | ||
| To let people understand. | ||
| We have cougars. | ||
| Coyotes. | ||
| Coyotes. | ||
| Griffith Park, they do stay. | ||
| You guys are close to Griffith Park. | ||
| You got a pamphlet, Ben? | ||
| I should have brought the pamphlet in. | ||
| Oh, that's such a relief. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That means that the crooks have found the bolts and cut in the lines. | ||
|
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They've got the booty. | |
| The pirates have got the booty. | ||
| It feels weird now. | ||
| We're so alone in our thoughts. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Oh, it's so awkward. | ||
| There was a guy that I had on that was a wildlife biologist that was telling me about the cougar that lives in Griffith Park. | ||
| And he just jacks deer. | ||
| That's all he does. | ||
| And the occasional dog. | ||
| And they monitor this cat. | ||
| So there's a single... | ||
| Yep, big cat. | ||
| This is a cat. | ||
| They have a photo of him with the Hollywood sign that, by the way, we have coming. | ||
| We have a print of that coming for the new studio. | ||
| It has a collar on, but it's a wild cougar, and they have to capture it every couple of years. | ||
| It's because its collar runs out of GPS, so the battery dies on the collar, so they have to find this fucker, and then they have to dart him. | ||
| There he is right there. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| See, he has his collar? | ||
| And look in the background with the Hollywood sign. | ||
| That's not planned. | ||
| That was just a camera trap photograph. | ||
| A random photo. | ||
| That's a big cat. | ||
| Look at that collar. | ||
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He must be fucking pissed. | |
| Look at his forearms. | ||
| Dude, that's like Franco Columbo. | ||
| I mean, that's insane. | ||
| His forearms are fucking jacked. | ||
| The Hollywood sign is actually ten feet behind him. | ||
| What do you think he can lift? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| He looks like The Rock. | ||
| He's built like The Rock. | ||
| No, he's built like a power lifter almost. | ||
| Like his front arm. | ||
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Look at that dude. | |
| The front arms are insane. | ||
| I want to look at this guy in the middle to the left with that fucking look on his face. | ||
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That guy. | |
| It's all the same one. | ||
| That's the same guy. | ||
| That's him. | ||
| They took a picture of him. | ||
| He's so stoned. | ||
| Hey, what's up, bro? | ||
| He got an edible. | ||
| Yeah, he eats a lot of edibles. | ||
| You know what I think he eats? | ||
| It's just stoners. | ||
| I think if you eat stoners, you get high. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| That's my worst nightmare. | ||
| Jesus, man. | ||
| They have to capture this cat every two years. | ||
| This cat's been captured like four times. | ||
| He's pretty cute, too, though. | ||
| I think he had mange there, right? | ||
| Is that why they captured him? | ||
| That he had some sort of a disease they had to work with him on? | ||
| But it's so weird. | ||
| What do they call him? | ||
| Steven? | ||
| I think his name is P-22, right? | ||
| Is that his name? | ||
| That's what they call him? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He was severely infected with mange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That blows. | ||
| Sorry, dude. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| It's an intense life. | ||
| And it's a male? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And he's out there running free. | ||
| That's what's really interesting. | ||
| They just let him do what he does. | ||
| He's not running free. | ||
| He's running the show. | ||
| He's definitely running the show. | ||
| He's like king shit. | ||
| He's definitely king shit if you're a jogger. | ||
| He's like Simba. | ||
| You just don't want to catch him. | ||
| Of California. | ||
| If he has a limp and he can't take out deer anymore, that's when you're fucked. | ||
| You gotta be packing heat, Ben. | ||
| These are the things that are... | ||
| When we were in Yellowstone and we were driving through, I did not want to get out of the car. | ||
| Bears! | ||
| Yellowstone is pretty fascinating. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| I mean, we went and saw geysers and all the beautiful stuff, but like a week later, there was some hiker that just got killed. | ||
| By a bear? | ||
| Yeah, by a grizzly. | ||
| And it was like, there was footage of it. | ||
| Footage of it? | ||
| There was a, not a sheriff, the ranger, ranger mobile, mobile ranger. | ||
| Vehicle went by, and the man, like, literally, like, seconds after the ranger drove by, this just huge grizzly goes across the path, and there was a hiker who had his headphones on and just got, it's really terrible. | ||
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Got murked. | |
| Did you hear about that kid, 11-year-old kid that saved a fishing party yesterday? | ||
| No. | ||
| A charging grizzly bear at a fishing party, and this 11-year-old kid gunned it down in Alaska. | ||
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What? | |
| Gunned it down? | ||
| It's not a grizzly, technically. | ||
| It's a brown bear, but they're really the same bear. | ||
| What a grizzly is is a coastal brown bear, and what a coastal bear is called is a brown bear. | ||
| That's the kid? | ||
| 11-year-old kid charging grizzly with one well-placed shot. | ||
| Where is he exactly? | ||
| So I can tell you if that's the right designation. | ||
| It says Young Harry Potter. | ||
| That's what that hat says. | ||
| Where does it say it was? | ||
| Huna, Alaska. | ||
| Go to the map and find out where the fuck Huna, Alaska is. | ||
| He's 11. Elliot 11. That dog is so happy. | ||
| Huna, Alaska. | ||
| The kid lives in Huna, Alaska. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| It's like equally as sad as it is like... | ||
| Way up yonder, huh? | ||
| You don't want to see the people die from the bear, but then you feel bad for the bear. | ||
| That's actually a brown bear. | ||
| They're calling it a grizzly, but it's on the coast. | ||
| Juno. | ||
| I think that's tech. | ||
| I might be wrong. | ||
| Ben, my aunt Diana lived in Juno. | ||
| Look how fucking big Alaska is. | ||
| Go back. | ||
| Look how big Alaska is. | ||
| Dude, I've been there a bunch. | ||
| I've been there a few times for fishing. | ||
| I did a show there once. | ||
| What do you like to fish, Joe? | ||
| Salmon. | ||
| What? | ||
| Can I come? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I love to fish. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Yeah, so does Ben. | ||
| Let's do a family vacation. | ||
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I would love that. | |
| That would be the best thing ever. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
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We're a lot of fun. | |
| We'll plan it tonight at our cookout. | ||
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Okay, that sounds great. | |
| We're having a cookout in just an hour from now. | ||
| But Alaska, you know what's really crazy? | ||
| The thing that I didn't anticipate? | ||
| How fucking aggressive the mosquitoes are. | ||
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Oh. | |
| You hear that. | ||
| Because they only live for like a week. | ||
| Oh, jeez. | ||
| Do you wear the stuff? | ||
| I'm exaggerating with a week. | ||
| Do you wear the stuff? | ||
| Yeah, you gotta wear the stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Another move is thermosel. | ||
| You know what a thermosel is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Press a button. | ||
| It's an ingenious device that my friends the rivets up in Alberta told me about. | ||
| You have friends called the rivets? | ||
| The rivets. | ||
| John and Jen. | ||
| John and Jen Rivet. | ||
| They're hunting guides in Alberta. | ||
| But you press this button and it lights this little tiny element inside of it. | ||
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Like a sonic thing? | |
| And it heats up that blue pad. | ||
| Go back to that thing. | ||
| That blue pad, you change those out. | ||
| After a while they become white. | ||
| And that blue pad puts out this fine mist. | ||
| No, it burns. | ||
| It burns off a fine mist that you can't detect, but fucking mosquitoes don't want no part of it. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah, and it makes your dick grow. | ||
| I just made that part up. | ||
| That just made my dick grow. | ||
| But what is that? | ||
| Thermocell, are those heated? | ||
| Is that heated or is that repellent? | ||
| You put them under your tootsies. | ||
| It goes in your shoe. | ||
| This is a thermosel foot pad that somehow or another keeps mosquitoes out. | ||
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Do they have any other colors except for olive? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Good question. | ||
| Is that bothering you? | ||
| Are you fashion conscious when it comes to mosquito protection? | ||
| It's just worth looking into. | ||
| When we lived in Nashville, I would have to wear off for sensitive skin during the day because I would get bit up by mosquitoes all night. | ||
| And people would always tell me that I smelled amazing. | ||
| And I'd say, oh, it's off. | ||
| You said I write all over my tits with magic markers. | ||
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I did. | |
| I didn't say that, but that sounds like a good pickup line. | ||
| What smells better than a fresh magic marker when you pop the top? | ||
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You don't even know why you like it, but you love that smell. | |
| I don't even know what to say anymore. | ||
| Is it true? | ||
| I covered myself in off. | ||
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Does it turn you on that I covered myself in off? | |
| Stop it. | ||
| Thermacell makes lawn, like those little things that you stick in the ground, like a little lawn lantern, but they keep mosquitoes away. | ||
| They do that too. | ||
| This is not a Thermacell commercial. | ||
| Guys, we have it pretty easy in California with the mosquitoes. | ||
| Oh my god, we got it easy with everything. | ||
| Fucking everything except earthquakes. | ||
| We got it easy. | ||
| We don't have weather. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I killed a spider in my bedroom in the middle of the night last week, and I broke my curtain on my window. | ||
| Imagine if you were living in Huna, Alaska, a charging grizzly bear. | ||
| You caught him out the window right after you broke your curtain. | ||
| I live here for a reason. | ||
| But if you were screaming from the spider and you broke the curtain and you looked out the window as the bear was in full charge, it would put it all in perspective, wouldn't it? | ||
| It sure would, Jim. | ||
| You'd be like, God damn it. | ||
| Really didn't have a big deal with that spider. | ||
| It was a good life. | ||
| It was a good life. | ||
| Look at Elliot, the 11-year-old hunter. | ||
| Yeah, he's kind of evaluating what just happened. | ||
| He's so, he's fucking owning that shit. | ||
| Look at that dog. | ||
| Yeah, bitches are on planes to go out and visit this kid. | ||
| There's older women that tend towards pedophilia that are right now grooming him. | ||
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Oh, stop it. | |
| Yeah, they just want to wait a few years. | ||
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Come on. | |
| That's what they do now. | ||
| They don't want to go to jail. | ||
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Come on. | |
| So the older girls, they just become your friend. | ||
| And they mentor you for a few years. | ||
| And when you hit 18, they just start sucking. | ||
| That's what I hear. | ||
| That's just telling you what I hear. | ||
| Tell us more, Joe. | ||
| That's what I hear. | ||
| Because a lot of women are realizing, wrongly so, they get arrested for having sex with these young boys. | ||
| I think they just let it go. | ||
| But once these women do realize that there's real consequences to it, what they do is just befriend them. | ||
| They become friends with these kids. | ||
| It's so dark. | ||
| Long game. | ||
| It's not dark. | ||
| It's only dark if it's a girl. | ||
| Trust us, right? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Oh, you're 14. The woman's hot. | ||
| You have an issue? | ||
| She's 25. She really likes you. | ||
| She teaches you art and crafts. | ||
| She's a very skilled ceramicist. | ||
| She's really good at making ashtrays. | ||
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Do you like pottery? | |
| She fosters you. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
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And on that note... | |
| Where do we go from here? | ||
| Oh, jeez. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| So many options. | ||
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Home, under the desk, into a fetal position. | |
| It's that Mary Kay Letourneau, that girl that, she's still with that boy. | ||
| And they had a fake divorce. | ||
| They had to get a divorce because he's going into the weed business. | ||
| Really? | ||
| They only got divorced so that she wouldn't be like legally, it wouldn't be like a legal issue with him selling weed or something with him and her. | ||
| He was like protecting her so they got a divorce but they're still together and happy apparently. | ||
| There's been a story like that coming out like every week right now about like a young teacher. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Substitute teacher 24 accused of sex in two counties with her 17 year old student. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's only seven years difference folks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You gotta let that go. | ||
| My parents have a huge age gap between them. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| How many years? | ||
| 80? | ||
| You want to get close? | ||
| 150. Wait, let's play the game. | ||
| Let's play the game. | ||
| How old is Ben's dad? | ||
| 70. 78. No. | ||
| Okay, but you're not playing by the rules, first of all. | ||
| You get three tries. | ||
| So that was two tries. | ||
| I want to keep going. | ||
| I'll start at one. | ||
| You get the spiel. | ||
| Ben, Ben. | ||
| Just let him go. | ||
| He's already got two tries. | ||
| Look, I've been playing this game my whole life. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it's always changing because he gets older. | ||
| Three things. | ||
| I tell you three things. | ||
| One, okay, I'm 31 years old. | ||
| I'm about to turn 32. Next week. | ||
| Second thing is, my dad is crazy fucking old. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And the third thing is, one person my entire life has ever guessed old enough. | ||
| I mean, Ian, you can go crazy and you're 150. Okay. | ||
| I already said 150. I know. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So it's not 150. You get a free pass there, Rogan. | ||
| He's not the oldest guy ever. | ||
| Okay, I think your dad is 95 years old. | ||
| Okay, you're actually spot on. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's turning 96 in November. | ||
| He got it on the third try. | ||
| First two tries were 17. Legit. | ||
| That disturbs me. | ||
| Mark Jaffe is 95. I hate when I just take a shot in the dark. | ||
| But obviously, you gave me a lot of parameters to work in. | ||
| That's true, but still, generally with those... | ||
| Old, super crazy old... | ||
| If it was your first guess, people on the parameters never guess that. | ||
| Never. | ||
| I love that Joe just guessed your dad's proper age. | ||
| And he'll be 96 in November. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| What are you? | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| Who, me? | ||
| That was just a lucky guess. | ||
| If I guessed when you didn't tell me he was crazy old, then it would be impressive. | ||
| See, that's where I feel like you give people... | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But you hear what I'm saying? | ||
| Nobody has ever done it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, but that doesn't matter. | ||
| But you just said it. | ||
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Who is the other person? | |
| Like, I got lucky. | ||
| Listen, but if you, like, this is why, like, psychics are a problem. | ||
| They start leading you. | ||
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Mentalists. | |
| And then they give you a bunch of information. | ||
| You get a bunch of information first, then they take a guess. | ||
| Like, if I told you that I was a psychic, and then we went through this whole thing, I sense your dad is getting on, but maybe not. | ||
| Maybe he isn't. | ||
| Maybe he's doing well. | ||
| You're right, Joe. | ||
| Yes, my dad's really old. | ||
| I feel like he's older. | ||
| Am I onto something? | ||
| Completely. | ||
| I feel like it's a big issue. | ||
| I feel like he's older than you would admit. | ||
| It's definitely been a thing. | ||
| So I feel like he's... | ||
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I want to say he's 95. Oh my god. | |
| How did you know that? | ||
| That seems like I would be psychic. | ||
| That's what psychics do, those fucks. | ||
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Bitches. | |
| Like, I had a friend of mine, and he went to a psychic, and he's like, dude, this guy knew all about my grandmother. | ||
| I'm like, don't you know about grandma? | ||
| You know about your grandma, right? | ||
| So this guy knew some shit that you already know. | ||
| Tell this guy to tell you some shit that you don't know. | ||
| You want someone to tell you things you already know? | ||
| That is fucking ridiculous. | ||
| You're gonna set her off. | ||
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No, you're not! | |
| No, no, no, not in a bad way. | ||
| And I've never experienced it firsthand. | ||
| I've never had a psychic or someone with that kind of energy tell me something that I was like, wait, what the fuck did you just say? | ||
| But there's people like you in my life who I trust who have had experiences that are unexplainable. | ||
| I have. | ||
| I've had psychics tell me family secrets that I've bent over backwards to try to understand how they could possibly know what they knew and I'm always skeptical. | ||
| But I've definitely had people that told me things that there's fucking no way they could know. | ||
| Here's a question though. | ||
| Did you give them any answers to other questions before that? | ||
| No. | ||
| None. | ||
| So they just told you right away, your uncle's gay, and he has a boy that he lives with that he pretends is his son, but it's really his... | ||
| Joe, what the fuck? | ||
| Are you serious right now? | ||
| Without your interpretation, yes. | ||
| Without that, but something that ridiculous, that outrageous that they could only guess. | ||
| And you didn't give him any answers to any leading questions before that? | ||
| I thought I heard it on your podcast. | ||
| Maybe not, but there's a documented history of the military... | ||
| Experimenting? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Experimenting. | ||
| But for years and years and years. | ||
| So they're not going to spend that money if there's no actual question. | ||
| No, that's not necessarily true. | ||
| Because they wanted to find out if there was an answer. | ||
| And the only way you find out is if you have to run some tests. | ||
| And they had a thing called remote viewing. | ||
| And we actually had some remote viewing experts on that TV show that I did for a while called Joe Rogan Questions Everything. | ||
| We sat down with them and I had all these remote viewing guys Boo, at the end of the day, it seems a lot like psychics. | ||
| It's like, there's no, like, they claim to have seen some things and pointed out some things that helped some operations and this and that, but it's all top secret. | ||
| Whether or not it's true, you're never gonna know. | ||
| You're never gonna know whether they're bullshitting you or something really did go down. | ||
| But I've never seen anybody do it. | ||
| We had two guys try to do it. | ||
| They were supposedly experts in it. | ||
| They couldn't do shit. | ||
| And I think there's a lot of people that aren't authentic. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| There's a lot of money in shenanigans. | ||
| There's a lot of money in palm reading. | ||
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Here's the thing. | |
| The people that aren't going to charge you the money are probably the people that are actually doing something that is meaningful. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Or it might be like a Stephen King book where you drive down the street and see that neon light and it says fortune teller and you go in and it's some lady who sees through your soul and she does. | ||
| And she really does know things. | ||
| And it's just like, this is how she gets by with this magic gift. | ||
| You just pay her 20 bucks a pop. | ||
| And she just tells you crazy shit. | ||
| And you do what you do with that. | ||
| But she knows. | ||
| And no one ever believed she knows. | ||
| Because it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| This fucking lady on Ventura and Victory. | ||
| How the fuck does she know? | ||
| Tell us more, Joe. | ||
| How does she know? | ||
| How does she know all this? | ||
| She knows, man. | ||
| But she does. | ||
| Ventura doesn't intersect with Victory. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| There's the catch. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| So when you're in the police office, you're telling them, no, I'm telling you, the place was there. | ||
| It was real. | ||
| She was a real person. | ||
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I met her. | |
| The Wilsons have been living on Ventura and Victory for 37 years, and they've never moved. | ||
| You get back to the house, and it's the house, and it's like... | ||
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Where did the fortune teller shot go? | |
| Are you making fun of me right now? | ||
| No, I want to believe you right now. | ||
| Because we're going to talk about this at the barbecue. | ||
| Off mic, buddy. | ||
| So you really believe? | ||
| You believe in sidekicks? | ||
| I've had too many things that I can't explain that I'm always going to question, but I have. | ||
| Has anybody ever told you something was going to happen and then it happened? | ||
| I don't like that shit. | ||
| And I don't subscribe to that. | ||
| So you shut your mouth. | ||
| I don't subscribe to that. | ||
| Because I don't want someone to tell me my future. | ||
| I think that's unfair and I think it's disrespectful. | ||
| Disrespectful is a weird word to use. | ||
| The experiences I've had with these people were with people that have died that I've communicated with Whether through dreams or psychedelics and I had Questions, | ||
| but I didn't ask them and I waited to see if they would tell me and it's just kind of that sort of setup here's the thing it might be real and it might be that Real, what real is, is so ridiculous that it's almost like you can't bottle it, you can't measure it, you can't put it on a scale, and it only exists in these brief moments. | ||
| And it comes and it goes and you'll never be able to prove it. | ||
| And it just comes and it goes and it makes you think, like, God, I think I really believe that really did happen. | ||
| And no one really knows and everybody just goes about their business, but it really did. | ||
| It really did tap in. | ||
| It really did talk to someone who's not there anymore. | ||
| I think whether you did or didn't is up to your... | ||
| Acceptance of the experience and whether it's your ego or something you can't explain and if it brings you comfort, that's great. | ||
| For sure, if it brings you comfort, right? | ||
| I mean, that's the same argument for religion. | ||
| You know, when people say that religion is bullshit, you go, well, okay, but it's bullshit that makes people happy. | ||
| If it makes people happy, then it's not bullshit. | ||
| It's bullshit that makes people happy and also controls people and does really terrible things. | ||
| So it's also... | ||
| But does it have to? | ||
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No. | |
| Does it have to do all those things? | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of... | ||
| It's a very multifaceted subject. | ||
| Isn't it like sugar? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sugar kills a lot of people, but it also tastes delicious. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
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But you know what's funny? | |
| I found out recently that Scientology religion is one of the main backers for Narcotics Anonymous. | ||
| They are? | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| Tell me I'm wrong. | ||
| Well, they definitely don't like psychiatric medicine. | ||
| And so that's a really interesting window into manipulation and trying to get people to subscribe to something. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| There's a lot of fucking shit out there. | ||
| And I don't know what's right. | ||
| I can just speak to my own experiences and things that... | ||
| I absolutely question with so much thought and continue to do so from things that have happened years ago. | ||
| And I just... | ||
| I can't deny how I felt and what I've experienced. | ||
| And I want to keep living and understanding whatever it is. | ||
| If, you know, there's a reason why we're here or there isn't and we're just here. | ||
| But I'm not religious. | ||
| I feel a really... | ||
| I feel interested in religion and some of the things I've experienced over the years being raised Catholic. | ||
| And you're kind of talking about a religious experience. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| When you say that word, you think that everyone's going to think a specific thing. | ||
| We've had this argument. | ||
| But it doesn't need... | ||
| Did we? | ||
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Are we arguing? | |
| Because it's not really a religion to me. | ||
| It's not like some organized... | ||
| What's not a religion? | ||
| The spiritual, energetic exchange of information. | ||
| I guess I equate religion, and this is where we can all talk about this. | ||
| I am so... | ||
| I don't know if I'm right. | ||
| I'm not preaching, but... | ||
| Well, no one does, and no one knows if you're wrong, either. | ||
| But religion, to me, is like the Catholicism I was raised on that requires guilt and wrongfulness and sin and money, because you go to church and you put your money in the basket every Sunday, and... | ||
| I've seen enough and I know enough about pedophilia within the Catholic Church that's undeniable. | ||
| You can't fucking deny anything. | ||
| But you're talking about organization. | ||
| Sure, I'm talking about organization. | ||
| And that's how I equate religion. | ||
| Sure, but I think to different people. | ||
| It's not the exact same, that Narcon Anon. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Narcotics Anonymous is what the Scientology people have. | ||
| It's an organization that promotes the theories of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard regarding substance abuse. | ||
| Not the same thing as narcotics. | ||
| Thank you for clarifying. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| All of L. Ron Hubbard's stuff, a lot of it came from other psychology lectures and texts and books and stuff. | ||
| If you read the rudimentary levels of L. Ron Hubbard's teachings, they're like amazing. | ||
| And then they start getting weirder and weirder. | ||
| And you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| And I think that's... | ||
| Even he didn't believe in psychics. | ||
| I know. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| I don't really believe in psychics either. | ||
| I just believe in my experiences. | ||
| I think that there's a difference. | ||
| I think there's a lot of... | ||
| I think you should question everything and then try to understand yourself the best that you can. | ||
| I think unique moments can be unique. | ||
| I think there's things that happen when you think about someone and the phone rings, and they can tell you all day long, that's a coincidence, man. | ||
| How often do you think about them and the phone doesn't ring? | ||
| You might be. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| But there are some pretty unique moments that I'm not exactly convinced are measurable. | ||
| I don't know if they're measurable. | ||
| I think those unique moments when you think about someone and they text you, I don't necessarily think that there's been adequate studies done on that. | ||
| And I think there's a lot of people that have these contrarian ideologies that they really love to dismiss things like this. | ||
| And they really love to dismiss the potential connections that people have between each other. | ||
| But we know we have connections when we're near each other. | ||
| We know that some people can just look at you and you look at them and you're like, let's get the fuck out of here! | ||
| People have weird connections with others. | ||
| You also know when someone's upset at you and they're not being honest about it. | ||
| We have weird sort of ways of feeling each other out that don't necessarily fit on a scale. | ||
| They're not quantifiable, but they're there. | ||
| You can't measure them, but you feel them. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I'm reading this article about that kind of ties in music to that, just talking about So you're talking about our ability to read each other's facial expressions, emotional expressions, and that's a successful trait. | ||
| That's something that's part of the development of this stuff, right? | ||
| And basically, I'm just getting into it, but this article is just talking about how those... | ||
| It's just a lot of scientists are trying to understand, or people, like, why the fuck is music important? | ||
| Why is it such an obsession, a human obsession? | ||
| Music is a drug. | ||
| I mean, it certainly is. | ||
| Like, even, like, the other day I was watching Rocky IV. Rocky IV came on just out of nowhere. | ||
| I was flipping two. | ||
| And songs that I don't even think are good anymore. | ||
| You know, but I recognize the drug-like effect that, like, you know, one of those Rocky songs, those Survivor Rocky songs. | ||
| But it's a combination of the movie and the music. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's not just the music. | ||
| There's a visual. | ||
| But sometimes not. | ||
| Like, sometimes just the music. | ||
| You know, like, when I run... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When I run, and if I listen to music, I can go longer. | ||
| Oh, for sure, yeah. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| What the fuck's going on there? | ||
| How come you're not as tired when you're listening to... | ||
| Because you're having an emotional response. | ||
| And you're inspired, though. | ||
| You're inspired by something that was taught to you at a different time. | ||
| The rhythm of the music was ingrained in you at some point. | ||
| I can listen to Motley Crue, kickstart my heart, and I can get up any fucking hill. | ||
| I would imagine if you took an indigenous tribe and played rock music, they'd be like, what the fuck? | ||
| Because they had no idea what it was. | ||
| But maybe they wouldn't because there's rhythm and there's a lot of musical, tribal contributions to that area of your life. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Rhythm is a dancer. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Thanks for backing me up. | ||
| We're not off the rails, right? | ||
| We're good. | ||
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I'm not stoked. | |
| This is consistent with what we usually do, if that's what you're saying. | ||
| I feel like this is our best one yet. | ||
| Maybe we've said that before. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I think we see that every time. | |
| We haven't done one in a while. | ||
| No, it's been over two years. | ||
| No, almost two years. | ||
| Oh, well, shit. | ||
| Shit, damn. | ||
| You guys are still the only band I've ever worked with. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Never worked with a band before. | ||
| Never did shows. | ||
| We did a couple shows. | ||
| Those were fun. | ||
| Such a blast. | ||
| They were so much fun. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| We had a new year's together. | ||
| You were so great. | ||
| People were trying to count down and you weren't done with your bit and you were like, fuck you, I'm not done. | ||
| And then you said, okay, now we can celebrate the new year. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| It was so great. | ||
| Well, it's in the middle of a bit. | ||
| People are like, well, it's time! | ||
| It's time! | ||
| I missed it by 10 seconds, folks. | ||
| Hang in there. | ||
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Just hang in there. | |
| It was great. | ||
| Well, we did the End of the World show. | ||
| That was really fun. | ||
| Were there two New Year's shows? | ||
| December 21st, 2012 was the big one. | ||
| That was the first one we did. | ||
| We did the End of the World one with Stan Hope and Joey. | ||
| Was it New Year's, though? | ||
| It wasn't New Year's. | ||
| No, that was December 21st. | ||
| That was the End of the Mayan calendar. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, we planned that one out years in advance. | ||
| We're still here, guys. | ||
| Yeah, we knew what we were going to do. | ||
| Stanhope and I talked about doing that, like, because he got tired of me talking about the Mayan calendar. | ||
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Because he was like, let's fucking promise we're going to do a show December 21st. | |
| I'm like, let's do it. | ||
| Let's get Diaz on board. | ||
| And, you know, I met you guys. | ||
| I'm like, let's have music. | ||
| Let's have a fucking crazy end of the world. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| December 24th. | ||
| And then life went on for five more years. | ||
| Everything was fine. | ||
| Hey, thanks for bringing us on. | ||
| That was a lot of fun. | ||
| It was fun for us, too. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| How did you get the Alex Jones one to be 9-11? | ||
| I had to plan it out. | ||
| I had to fit some podcasts in. | ||
| I had to do extra ones the week before, just so I could get to number 9-11 with Alex. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds like a long... | ||
| Well, I could have had him on earlier, and I would have definitely had him on again for 9-11, but having him on the first time for 9-11. | ||
| And to this day, that's our biggest podcast by far. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| By maybe five million downloads. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| Yeah, but here's the conspiracy. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Am I saying it correctly? | ||
| What is the actual number? | ||
| It was probably at 16 now. | ||
| I didn't check in the last two or three days. | ||
| Okay, so 16 million dollars. | ||
| Here's what's crazy. | ||
| It never charted on iTunes. | ||
| The iTunes charts magically went down while the Alex Jones podcast was in the queue and they stayed down for over a week. | ||
| Conspiracy theory! | ||
| And then when it came back up, podcasts that got way less downloads than Alex's were rated much higher than his. | ||
| And they had happened before and after his. | ||
| Oh, I do remember this. | ||
| Like, his was the only podcast that was left out of the ratings loop. | ||
| Like, for sure, it would have been the number one podcast in the country. | ||
| It was the number one podcast we did by a mile. | ||
| And I've had the number one podcast before. | ||
| It's like the number one podcast episode. | ||
| That was more than five million downloads more than any other podcast I had before. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| So, for sure, probably would have been number one. | ||
| That's a lot of downloads. | ||
| Unless they had, like, one of those serial episodes or something that came out that week. | ||
| Ooh, S-Town. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| And it's very likely that someone's trying to hold Alex Jones back. | ||
| And that just stokes his fucking fire. | ||
| They don't understand. | ||
| It's the Streisand effect. | ||
| Can't stoke the fire of Alex Jones. | ||
| Even Megyn Kelly's fucked now. | ||
| Her show's going down the toilet. | ||
| What happened in the aftermath? | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| Megyn Kelly was a Fox News person. | ||
| She left Fox News to go to NBC. NBC is thought of as CNBC, which is thought of as fake news by these right-wing Trump Trumpians. | ||
| What would you call them? | ||
| Trumpers. | ||
| Trumpers. | ||
| So as soon as she goes over there, they're not going to listen to her. | ||
| And then to the liberals, she's Fox News. | ||
| So they're not interested in her either. | ||
| And then she does this podcast with Alex Jones, or this interview, rather, with Alex Jones. | ||
| And in the interview with Alex Jones, she says, I'm not going to paint you out as a monster. | ||
| I'm going to give you a fair... | ||
| She's saying all these things like she's going to throw softballs this way. | ||
| I want people to get to know you. | ||
| And he releases all that. | ||
| And he's like, hey, this is that person. | ||
| And then the ratings just keep... | ||
| Plomiting. | ||
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Plomiting. | |
| If you want to be an ice princess, you've got to be on Fox News. | ||
| Full ice. | ||
| If you want to sell guns, you want to be a Second Amendment proponent with fucking cold blue steel eyes and smooth, shiny legs and nice shoes and tiny skirts, you've got to be on Fox News. | ||
| How do you get smooth, shiny legs? | ||
| Stay in your lane. | ||
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Shave them. | |
| You gotta shave them down. | ||
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Really? | |
| Constantly. | ||
| All day long. | ||
| Can't just wear pants? | ||
| Probably oil them up, too. | ||
| Yeah, you have illegal immigrants. | ||
| How do you do it, Ben? | ||
| It's just kind of a natural thing for me. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| You're hairless? | ||
| And the legs? | ||
| Somebody's gotta be like that. | ||
| There's gotta be somebody out there with no leg hair. | ||
| I'm sure it happens. | ||
| It's called... | ||
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Purity? | |
| Purity. | ||
| Is that what it's called? | ||
| Sure is, Ben. | ||
| It's funny you brought it up. | ||
| One day we're all going to have no hair and they're going to look back at pictures of us and they're going to go, what the fuck were they doing? | ||
| What is that bald human race? | ||
| Facial hair and shit. | ||
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Tattoos. | |
| Everyone looks the same. | ||
| No eyebrows. | ||
| Eyelashes. | ||
| I really think that's the future. | ||
| I think the future is those aliens from Close Encounters. | ||
| I think the reason why we have those archetypal images in our head is since we know that's where we're going. | ||
| Have you ever talked to Paul Hellyer or looked at his stuff at all? | ||
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Who's that? | |
| He's like the Canadian alien dude. | ||
| They're all the same. | ||
| But he was part of the government. | ||
| Oh, the government. | ||
| Well, then for sure he's telling the truth. | ||
| He specifically talks about the different types of aliens. | ||
| Oh, well that makes him even more legit. | ||
| Come on, Joe! | ||
| For sure, with no evidence, he definitely would tell us all about these different types of aliens. | ||
| Yeah, you should look into it. | ||
| You might want to have him on. | ||
| I have, unfortunately. | ||
| And I'm not saying there's no aliens. | ||
| I don't know him, but I know the whole alien. | ||
| Is it because you're an alien? | ||
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No. | |
| And you don't want people to know? | ||
| I think there's a business in telling people that you know about the aliens. | ||
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It's okay. | |
| We accept you for who you are. | ||
| The problem is there's a business in telling people that you know about the aliens. | ||
| Ex-defense minister. | ||
| Aliens would give us more tech if we'd stop wars. | ||
| All right, let's play this. | ||
| I want to hear this. | ||
| What's that? | ||
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It's on video. | |
| No, it's not, but it's on RT. But why is he the one dude? | ||
| He was on RT. He's a special dude. | ||
| Why don't I talk to other people? | ||
| But it says on RT, proof of alien's presence overwhelming. | ||
| He's like the chosen one. | ||
| No, that's just a picture of it. | ||
| That's just a screenshot. | ||
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Oh, I see. | |
| What, the Nintendo part? | ||
| But he was on, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So there's got to be a video of it, no? | ||
| There's many videos of Paul Hellyer. | ||
| I've watched them. | ||
| Do you buy it when you listen to him talk? | ||
| It makes me question. | ||
| I like to hear... | ||
| I'm interested. | ||
| I like to hear his voice to see if my crazy radar goes off. | ||
| Just give me a little piece. | ||
| Tell us, Wiseman. | ||
| Tell us, Wiseman, what you feel. | ||
| You got two different shit playing. | ||
| Jamie's a tabber. | ||
| Well, because I know that they are. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| As a matter of fact, they've been visiting our planet for thousands of years. | ||
| And one of the cases that would interest you most, if you'll give me two or three minutes to answer, is during the Cold War in 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia across Europe, and the Supreme Allied Commander was very concerned and about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. | ||
| So they decided to do an investigation and they investigated for three years and they decided that with absolute certainty that four species, four different species at least, had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. | ||
| So we have a long history of UFOs and of course there's been a lot more activity in the last few decades since we invented the atomic bomb and they're very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again and because the whole cosmos is a unity And it affects not just us, but other people in the cosmos. | ||
| They're very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well. | ||
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So no serious scientist has ever publicly confirmed evidence of an encounter with extraterrestrials. | |
| Why would scientists not confirm the facts if they exist? | ||
| I'm afraid they must go out of their way not to find out. | ||
| Because if they did, you know, even 10% of the amount of research I've done in the last eight years, they would be as convinced as I am. | ||
| I mean, they could do it even faster. | ||
| It might take them a little longer when they didn't have a military background. | ||
| But there are so many wonderful books that tell these stories. | ||
| And they've been authenticated. | ||
| The sightings have been authenticated by more than one witness and also by radar. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's the same horseshit. | ||
| They've been authenticated by witnesses. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| There's no real video. | ||
| There's no real photographs. | ||
| Nothing looks good. | ||
| A lot of people were talking about it, but when you think about how many human beings there are, there's 300 and 20 million plus in America. | ||
| How many of them are crazy? | ||
| At least 1%. | ||
| That's 3,200,000 crazy people. | ||
| How many of them really believe what they're saying? | ||
| At least half. | ||
| So you got a lot of fucking crazy people. | ||
| Well, this is one video, so I've watched a couple of his, and it's interesting to think about in terms of like, we're here. | ||
| It's all interesting to think about, but as soon as someone starts talking like that, he says they've been authenticated, there was more than one witness, that means nothing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| People are full of shit. | ||
| You just, I saw something. | ||
| Doesn't mean anything. | ||
| You might have, you might not have. | ||
| But if he's 100% all in and he hasn't had a UFO experience himself that he's talking about, well, then he seems gullible. | ||
| Totally fair. | ||
| I talked to a lot of those people. | ||
| I talked to those people that had been... | ||
| I talked to people that had implants pulled out of their body. | ||
| I talked to people that were experts. | ||
| I have seen... | ||
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Oh, oh, it's gone. | |
| What does it say? | ||
| You've seen one? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He said he's seen one. | ||
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Joe. | |
| Joe. | ||
| Well, it's something that gives me a lot of thought. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I haven't seen one, but I'm curious to know. | ||
| But what he just said there did not impress me. | ||
| Because he said that multiple people had seen it, like more than one person had confirmed it. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Like, you could have five guys that lie. | ||
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That doesn't mean anything. | |
| They might tell the truth. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Italians call them ufos. | ||
| My people. | ||
| Do they? | ||
| Yeah, ufos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've never heard that. | ||
| It was a joke. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Two in a row. | ||
| How'd I do? | ||
| Harry Potter was a fail, but I came back around. | ||
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It was an UFO! Are we still friends? | |
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| It's not to dismiss the possibility of UFOs. | ||
| It's just that you've got to really be careful with how people talk about stuff. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You've got to be, you know, if someone starts talking that they know something and they... | ||
| Well, that's one video. | ||
| I've watched a few of his videos and they were really interesting. | ||
| He was speaking before Canadian Congress talking about this and I've watched a lot of it in its entirety. | ||
| It's just worth thinking about, that's all. | ||
| I don't know what the truth is, but I do think... | ||
| Sure, please. | ||
| Yeah, always. | ||
| Just the fact that he has a lot of videos out there makes me wonder. | ||
| Because that means that he's making a living doing this. | ||
| Or this is a gig. | ||
| This is a thing he does. | ||
| Not when you're speaking before the Canadian Congress. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| If he does a bunch of these other interviews as well, that allows him to speak. | ||
| That's his thing. | ||
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Sure. | |
| His thing is I'm the guy who knows everything about UFOs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you were talking to scientists, they would say, show us your evidence. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Always. | |
| There's nothing. | ||
| That's the thing about these guys. | ||
| They all have stories, and no one has any evidence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I don't have the evidence. | ||
| But it feels good to think that they're out there, right? | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| I want to know stuff. | ||
| I mean, like, look at all the shit that we have, and we're here, and all the things that we, all the resources that we use, and we're one planet in a universe full of other planets. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| There it is, way up there. | ||
| I'm not afraid to say that I'm curious. | ||
| I think everybody is. | ||
| And I think people generally, it feels like a normal thing to be like, yeah, they're fucking out there. | ||
| But what I think is hard to accept is... | ||
| I don't have hard evidence. | ||
| What's hard to accept is that they're communicating with us and only certain people like Paul Hellyer know. | ||
| Well, maybe he does know, and maybe he has seen something, but maybe he's full of shit. | ||
| The problem is, if you haven't seen it, and I haven't, or at least I don't think I have, and you're talking about these things, how much time you spend thinking and talking about them, it gets to become almost like a pathology. | ||
| Why are you so invested in something that you don't even know is real? | ||
| But it becomes a thing that people are into, like they're into baseball scores, or they're into bowling. | ||
| They get into UFOs. | ||
| They get into it. | ||
| And then they start, I mean, this dude's obviously making a career out of it. | ||
| He's out there traveling. | ||
| I don't know that. | ||
| I mean, that's something to investigate upon this conversation, but it's made me think for years. | ||
| Like, I've seen some Paul Hellyer videos, and I'm just like, wow. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it makes me think, that's all. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And I will always be curious about aliens and psychics and all the shit. | ||
| It's so controversial. | ||
| I'm not superlative in that way where it's like, yes or no. | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
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I don't know either. | |
| But I want to know. | ||
| I'd love to keep learning. | ||
| I would too. | ||
| But I think that with guys like this, when you're talking about a subject that's this... | ||
| Mercurial. | ||
| This is such a difficult subject. | ||
| I think it's very important to only talk about the actual facts, like what we know or what we don't know. | ||
| If he wants to talk about his own personal experience, that's one thing. | ||
| But when you start talking about stories that you heard, like, okay. | ||
| People are full of shit from the beginning of time. | ||
| I've been telling stupid stories about werewolves and fucking vampires. | ||
| I think that's how a lot of damage is done, too. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's all derivative passed down. | ||
| Like, oh, I heard this from this and this and this, but you weren't there, so you don't know. | ||
| I'm reading this book about our brains and how our recollection of memories and eyewitnesses are usually inaccurate because you don't really remember like you think you did, and your brain lies to you and tells you that you saw something a certain way. | ||
| And even that, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's very important for people to know. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's a lot of people out there that think their memories are super accurate. | ||
| Well, and this ties into being wrong. | ||
| This ties into being like, I didn't see it the way that I think I did, and I might have made a mistake, and I'm sorry. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| That's important, too, because I think a lot of times when you have some big statement about something that you believe in, or if you want to get down to having some sort of And then you get dramatic and emotional and try to sell it. | ||
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You're selling it like you're running for Congress. | |
| $40,000 a day. | ||
| Frightening. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| People that are trying to convince people... | ||
| I mean, that's one of the reasons why being a president is so crazy. | ||
| Because you're basically trying to trick people into liking you. | ||
| You're trying to be charismatic. | ||
| And that's what sells the most. | ||
| Do presidents ever say, I made a mistake? | ||
| Do they ever say, I'm sorry, I messed up? | ||
| I'm sure somebody must have. | ||
| Publicly? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think there's moments. | ||
| I think it's probably nice. | ||
| That'd be really interesting. | ||
| It's going to have to happen someday. | ||
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Someday. | |
| Sing it, Joe. | ||
| I don't know which one that is, but I'm with you. | ||
| I bet you can. | ||
| I think you sound great. | ||
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I can't. | |
| You sound great. | ||
| No, you guys sound great. | ||
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What? | |
| Come on. | ||
| Why don't you guys sing us a song? | ||
| Do you want to do that? | ||
| Want to rem this up? | ||
| We've been doing for three hours and 20 minutes. | ||
| We should sing a song. | ||
| And then we should go make some food. | ||
| We started a little late. | ||
| Yeah, but it's 520. Yeah, we're at 245. Oh, really? | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Why don't you start at 2 o'clock? | |
| We didn't? | ||
| Oh, we did another podcast afterward. | ||
| I mean, we did another pool game. | ||
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We did two. | |
| We like broke it in half. | ||
| Ben, what do you want to play? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So we have solo records coming out. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Do you guys practice together with your solo shit? | ||
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We did. | |
| We did because we support each other. | ||
| We sure did. | ||
| And do. | ||
| My record comes out August 11th. | ||
| That's my birthday. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Shut up! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| What, Joe? | ||
| This is like an omen. | ||
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Yes. | |
| You want to come to my release on August 10th in LA? Yes. | ||
| You are welcome. | ||
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Alright, awesome. | |
| Shit, I don't have a release date. | ||
| I've got to get my shit together. | ||
| Ben made a beautiful record. | ||
| Ben made a fucking awesome record. | ||
|
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I'm smoking too much weed, Ben. | |
| I'm smoking too much weed, not scheduling shit. | ||
|
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Blowing off meetings. | |
| Listen, man. | ||
| I just need my music, man. | ||
| Let's play your song first. | ||
| Oh, jeez. | ||
| You want to do that? | ||
| Yeah, let's do it. | ||
| A lot of pressure. | ||
| Getting deep here. | ||
| I couldn't. | ||
| I'm not ready. | ||
| I couldn't possibly... | ||
| Oh, you're not going to play on it? | ||
| No, I'm going to sing. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
|
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You can do the instrumental part. | |
| What's this called? | ||
| It's called Everlasting Peace. | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Sat Nam. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| Some days I'll wake up in a sweat, body's wet from the tension. | ||
| Baby, with all these cheap thrills from tangible achievements weighing heavy on my mind. | ||
|
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But time has shown me you're the only one who could bring me everlasting peace. | |
| Time has shown me you're the only one who can bring me everlasting peace. | ||
| It's like a path I walk, lift me up like daytime talk, like arena rock. | ||
|
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And I'll sing it to you, soft and sweet and straight from the heart. | |
| So there's no questions that time has shown me. | ||
| You're the only one who can bring me everlasting peace. | ||
| Time has shown me you're the only one who can bring me everlasting peace. | ||
| everlasting peace. | ||
| There'd be a violin solo, but we don't have the violin right now. | ||
| We'll skip that part. | ||
|
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Say it till I don't mean it. | |
| Don't wanna compromise Don't wanna lose myself in some disguise But I know Yeah, I know I know I know I know The time has shown me You're the only one who can bring me Everlasting peace Time has shown me You're | ||
| the only one who can bring me everlasting peace. | ||
|
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Everlasting peace. | |
| Everlasting peace. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| You guys have such a good sound together. | ||
| It's two people that have been working together for a long time. | ||
| You guys know each other's sounds. | ||
| Might have messed that up a little bit for Ben, I'm sorry. | ||
| That'd make a difference. | ||
| How'd you mess it up? | ||
| Oh, you know, it's new stuff. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| I'm just gonna shut my mouth. | ||
| Shut that mouth. | ||
| And open it up. | ||
| With singing. | ||
|
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Okay! | |
| We can do now. | ||
| This is my single off my new record that comes out on your birthday. | ||
| August 11th. | ||
| It's called Ghost in My Bed. | ||
|
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Um, there's a music video out for it now, if anyone wants to see it. | |
| Where does someone get that? | ||
|
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On the YouTube. | |
| Is that okay? | ||
| It's on YouTube. | ||
| YouTube! | ||
| And, uh, coincidentally, it is KCRW's tune of the day today. | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| I don't even know how that was possible. | ||
| It's a little out. | ||
| It's a little out. | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna tune it up like a real professional. | ||
| You tune it up with your phone? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| Yes, Joseph. | ||
|
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They have these things that tune the instruments. | |
| What is it on your phone? | ||
| Like, I'm totally ignorant to this. | ||
|
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What is this? | |
| Do you see it? | ||
| It's like a... | ||
|
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It's a microphone. | |
| Yeah, tracking the frequency. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| What is it called? | ||
| It's just an app. | ||
| It's a guitar tune. | ||
| There's hundreds of them. | ||
|
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Oh, wow. | |
| There's a bunch of them, huh? | ||
| Here, what are you singing right now? | ||
| Wow, and it works off of the microphone on your phone the same way one would work like in a studio. | ||
| Is this okay, like sonically? | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty good. | ||
| I mean, we could be in a better situation. | ||
| It's pretty good though. | ||
| Should I give it another angle? | ||
| No, that's fine. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Alright, okay. | ||
| You want to do this? | ||
|
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Wait, should I get my pick or should I go fingers? | |
| You get your pick. | ||
| Get your pick like a real... | ||
|
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Do you always have a pick with you? | |
| Are you sure? | ||
| No, because I'm playing all fingers these days. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| There might be one. | ||
| Oh, there are. | ||
| Ben, get it. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Don't be scared of pigs, bro. | ||
| I'm done with them. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| There's a ghost in my bed Screwing with my head Stomping around my room Drinking all my booze | ||
| He makes me toss and turn My stomach churns And he laughs at me Things are so funny Yeah | ||
| drives my car and says, hold on child The road we're on is winding wild We got busted wheels, | ||
| dead ending I will haunt you till you're lying still He always gets me good and wasted I knew it from the start The first time I tasted the darkness When | ||
| he kissed my mouth I'm his heart And he's my way out Out He pulls me in My face on his chest He ain't wearing his shirt | ||
| I ain't wearing my dress He spills tequila Into my mouth And we hit the town Tear that motherfucker down Cause he always gives I loved it from the start. | ||
| The first time I tasted the darkness when He kissed my mouth. | ||
| I'll miss a horn. | ||
|
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Yeah, he's my way out. | |
| Oh, yeah. yeah. | ||
| I loved it from the start. | ||
| The first time I tasted darkness when he kissed my mouth. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
|
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He's my way out. | |
| My way out. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| KCRW's Song of the Day. | ||
| Suzanne Santo goes to my bed. | ||
|
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Thanks for having us. | |
| My pleasure. | ||
| I took my headphones off. | ||
| I hope I didn't ruin the whole thing. | ||
| No, it was awesome. | ||
|
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It was beautiful. | |
| Perfect. | ||
| Don't say a word. | ||
| Everyone's fine. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| Should we do more or should we go eat? | ||
| It's up to you, dude. | ||
| What do you want to do? | ||
| Want to do one more song? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| We're going to be on a TV show. | ||
| Did we tell you about that? | ||
| On August 3rd, we're on a show on TBS called The Guest Book. | ||
| And we wrote a bunch of music for it. | ||
| And we are on every episode of this half-hour comedy. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Every episode? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I play the mail lady who delivers the mail and Ben plays the exterminator. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| You guys, you put music and you're acting on the show too? | ||
| We got paid as actors. | ||
| What is this show? | ||
| What is it about? | ||
| So there was a show called My Name is Earl. | ||
| You know that show? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Love it. | ||
| Okay, so the guy Greg Garcia- Oh, Greg loves you. | ||
| Joe, by the way, Greg Garcia loves you and you should have him on the show. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| I would definitely have him on. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| He's so wonderful. | ||
| We talked about doing something. | ||
| I had a meeting with him a long time ago. | ||
| You should have him on the show. | ||
|
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I can help fucking make that connection so it can Ben Joffey. | |
| Okay, I would love to. | ||
| I like that guy. | ||
| Yeah, he's a great dude. | ||
| So what happened? | ||
| So they needed a band. | ||
| I guess they were looking at kind of like a spur-of-the-moment thing. | ||
| Greg was like, okay, I'm thinking there's going to be a band that closes out every episode, kind of transitions between the episodes. | ||
| We play in the strip club. | ||
| And a friend of ours... | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Oh shit, that's the show. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Michael Rappaport, Jamie Presley... | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| Now I want to watch this show. | ||
| There's a trailer now, Ben! | ||
| Oh, love him so much. | ||
| Did you guys work with Jamie? | ||
| Yeah, one scene. | ||
| We got to do a scene at AA with her. | ||
| She's so nice. | ||
| It was really fun. | ||
| She is awesome. | ||
| I did a terrible movie with her way back in the day. | ||
| It never went anywhere. | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| I don't remember, but she was super nice. | ||
| Oh, Danny Pudi. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| He's better. | ||
| What the fuck is this? | ||
| The guest book premieres August 3rd. | ||
| And it's on TBS? Go watch it, folks. | ||
| Look, it's got all the things I want. | ||
| Weirdos in a log cabin. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| We're going to play a song that didn't make it on the show, but we don't have to. | ||
| Hey, what the fuck happened to that song, Punk Kid? | ||
| Like, where is that at? | ||
| What's the status of that song? | ||
| That's not like Honey Honey's fourth record when we're ready to make it. | ||
| That is a great song. | ||
| And that song, like the riff from that song, was on my Denver comedy special, Rocky Mountain High. | ||
| Thanks, Joe. | ||
| Yeah, my pleasure. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| But I love that song. | ||
| That song was fucking great. | ||
| Like, what happened? | ||
| Well, on our last record... | ||
| It was a snafu, correct? | ||
| There was some kind of quasi-snafu... | ||
| I think this is label politics a little bit. | ||
| Like, it was a little more rock and roll, and it wasn't as Americana, and it just... | ||
| It was our choice to keep it off eventually. | ||
| It turned around and around and around. | ||
| But this was a song that we... | ||
| This was a couple years ago. | ||
| We came out here to work with a great dude named Keefis. | ||
| And we just did a set. | ||
| And there was that and a couple other songs that we did that were ours. | ||
| We owned this music. | ||
| It was one of the things where we owned it and they didn't want to pay for it. | ||
| They didn't want to... | ||
| So we were like, we're going to keep it then. | ||
| If we put it on a record, they would have owned it and not have... | ||
| So we were like, fuck, we put all this effort into this song and we love this song. | ||
| But it was just that thing where we had to fight for it. | ||
| And it's a great song and it's not going anywhere. | ||
| It'll come out eventually. | ||
| That business is dirty. | ||
| People don't know about that song though. | ||
| That song bought our Elon Musk. | ||
| Do you guys play it somewhere? | ||
| We played it here. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| They play it here. | ||
| Man, look at you with your pink shirt. | ||
| Damn, that's back in the dizzy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Lost those glasses. | ||
| It never made it on anything else other than that YouTube video? | ||
| Is it on anything else where people can listen to it? | ||
| Well, we put it out. | ||
| People downloaded it. | ||
| We used it to raise money for this vehicle. | ||
| So we could buy a car. | ||
| So only you guys own it. | ||
| So if we played it, it wouldn't trip any alarms or anything, right? | ||
| No, you can play it anytime you want. | ||
| Let's play that shit right now. | ||
| Go cook. | ||
| Can you find it? | ||
| Not the version they played here. | ||
| Let's see if there's another version of it that you can find, like the pure studio version, because it's so good. | ||
| That was a cool one. | ||
| I love that song. | ||
| That was like one of my favorites. | ||
| And when your new album came out, I was like, where's the song? | ||
| Where's Punk Kid? | ||
| It was a big debate. | ||
| It was a real thing. | ||
| Those motherfuckers. | ||
| Well, that's okay. | ||
| You know, you just got to keep forging ahead and figuring out how to maintain your integrity and also what you've worked for. | ||
| I can't imagine how you guys do it. | ||
| We just didn't want to give it up. | ||
| We didn't want someone else to be like, yeah, we own this. | ||
| Well, I'm glad you didn't, but I can't imagine how you guys do it, because if that was me, I found out that my jokes, like a bit that I did that I worked really long and hard on, all of a sudden, if I wanted to put it on a special, someone else is going to own it without even paying me for it. | ||
| I'd be like, well, fuck you, man. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| This is why I'm making my own furniture for my apartment. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| I'm happy. | ||
| I haven't downloaded it, but it's not on this phone or this computer. | ||
| It's on another computer. | ||
| Hold on, y'all. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Is it on Spotify? | ||
| Is that what you guys said? | ||
| No. | ||
| Ben, I think I've got it in my iTunes. | ||
| Confusion. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| I've got it right here. | ||
| What can we do? | ||
| How do I send it to you? | ||
| You can plug it in there. | ||
| You got an aux? | ||
| No, it's one of those stupid ass fucked up god damn fucking iPhones. | ||
| Android phones have an aux. | ||
| Don't you have an iPhone, Joe? | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Okay. | ||
|
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Okay? | |
| Okay? | ||
| But I've seriously considered going Android several times. | ||
| There's a new one, this new Google Pixel 2 is coming out, and then also the new Galaxy S8. It doesn't set on fire? | ||
| No, the Note 8 is the one. | ||
| The Note 7 was the one that went on fire. | ||
| The Galaxy 7 never went on fire. | ||
| It's funny, it's all over the airports, too. | ||
| It's like, oh, just so you know. | ||
| Yeah, so the Galaxy S8 is dope. | ||
| I've thought about that one. | ||
| And then the Galaxy Note 8, which is coming out soon, is pretty killer too. | ||
| They're just as good as iPhones now. | ||
| It's just getting off the Apple tit is the issue. | ||
| You know, the Apple tit that connects you to iPods. | ||
|
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It's difficult. | |
| It's difficult. | ||
| It all makes your life more convenient. | ||
| But I'm on the Google tit, too. | ||
| I love Google. | ||
| Google tit's good. | ||
| It's a big tit. | ||
| I use it all the time. | ||
| It's a big tit. | ||
| It's like at least a D cup. | ||
| There's so much information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if I had to choose between a company that I rely on more, if I could just use a Google phone, but I could still use Google. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, you've got to go with Google. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's giant. | ||
| I use that way more than I use anything. | ||
| It's like Googling things. | ||
| I mean, who doesn't? | ||
| You need to know shit. | ||
| I need to know shit, Suzanne. | ||
| Like, what is my shoe size and European size? | ||
| Very big. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| Is the answer. | ||
| Very big. | ||
| If you wanted to order some shoes from overseas. | ||
| Do you have pancakes' feet as well? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Yeah, I have Sasquatch feet. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Big ass wide feet. | ||
| Well, I'll fucking... | ||
| I could probably outfoot you, right? | ||
| Guys, my feet are slender. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah, I've been on this trail running kick, and I run with those feet shoes, those five-finger shoes. | ||
| Those are fun. | ||
| I've never seen a foot product generate so much hate. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You can't handle it. | ||
| People wear those Vibram five-finger shoes. | ||
|
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But why? | |
| They don't like the way it looks. | ||
| How do you feel about it? | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| I wear a fanny pack. | ||
| So does Pauly Shore. | ||
| I saw Pauly Shore at the grocery store the other day. | ||
| Don't lock me in with him and make me get rid of my... | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| He had a fanny pack. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| A lot of people are wearing them now. | ||
| And he gave me the stink eye a little bit. | ||
|
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I'm sorry. | |
| Because he knew you were the junior. | ||
| He didn't know that you knew. | ||
| How do I feel when I wear them? | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| They're great. | ||
| How's your body feel? | ||
| It's hard because I'm running Rocky Hills and I'm running a lot of miles. | ||
| So like three miles on these very steep... | ||
| Rocky Hills sounds like a great porn star name. | ||
|
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It does. | |
| A girl with ridiculous tits. | ||
| Just, Jesus, what the fuck is going on there? | ||
| A little double penetration on Rocky Hills. | ||
| Giant hands broken out of a shirt. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Third nipple. | ||
| That's Rocky Hills. | ||
| But it's tricky. | ||
| Today I ran them in Under Armour trail shoes, which I gotta be honest, I kinda like better. | ||
|
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Do you love Under Armour? | |
| Because you can just run full on. | ||
| I do. | ||
| They have a lot of great shit. | ||
| I'm wearing their sneakers. | ||
| They're one of the most eco-athletic lines. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they're also one of the very few big companies that support hunting. | ||
| They have a whole hunting line. | ||
| That's a bold choice. | ||
| Under Armour, if you want to endorse Honey Honey, we are willing and ready. | ||
| Big fan. | ||
| Big fan. | ||
| Under Armour, the gauntlet's been thrown down. | ||
| Yeah, for rock and roll, are you ready to expand? | ||
| Stage wear, holy shit. | ||
| Stage wear! | ||
| I've always wanted to have track suits for the whole band, like when we're loading in, because we have to do a lot of work. | ||
| But let me be honest, if you get a track suit, don't you have to get Adidas? | ||
| You mean like Royal Tenenbaums sign? | ||
|
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That's fine! | |
| Yeah, you definitely have to be going a little hip-hop with it. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| I'm slurring my words. | ||
| Some velour. | ||
| I can't even speak properly. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| I bet you play pool real good right now though, right? | ||
| Let's fucking do this. | ||
|
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COVID's better than before. | |
| Let's throw down. | ||
|
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We played pool earlier and I did not play my best. | |
| But you know what was bizarre? | ||
| It's because I want to beat Joe so badly. | ||
| Maybe you weren't giving us the full juice. | ||
| We came down to it two games. | ||
| Yeah, we were right down ball to ball. | ||
| But you played so much better than us. | ||
|
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Oh, here we go. | |
| That's because he wears a glove. | ||
| Oh my god, this is Punk Kid. | ||
| Goodnight, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Honey Honey, Suzanne Santo. | ||
|
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New album, August 11. This sounds like shit. | |
| What's that? | ||
| Hold on, kill it. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| The audio quality is terrible. | ||
| It got compressed when I texted it to myself. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that sounded like that shit was coming out of a toilet bowl. | ||
| Well, just so you know, it could sound better than that. | ||
| It sounds way better than that. | ||
| I had to stop it. | ||
| I was like, there's no way I could have that represent that song. | ||
| There's no way to get it through a computer? | ||
| You have to text it to yourself? | ||
| I'm trying to get it, and my phone's not connecting to the computer right now. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| He texted it to me. | ||
| It's got to be complicated if Jamie can't get it. | ||
| This is impressive. | ||
| Impressively complicated to get. | ||
| That was a nice fade out too though. | ||
| I was trying to email it to myself. | ||
| The song wasn't attaching in the email. | ||
| So there's no other way to get it? | ||
| Don't you guys have a way that you can tell people that they can get it? | ||
| If someone says, Hey Ben, I heard your punk kid song is really awesome. | ||
| Where can I go about hearing that? | ||
| I'll let him know. | ||
| Yeah, Ben, where is it? | ||
| Where is it, Ben? | ||
| We can put it on SoundCloud. | ||
| We can do that right now. | ||
| You know what we didn't do before we got on the podcast was like organize our social media because our Honey Honey website looks like our record's just coming out and it came out three years ago. | ||
| But we're working on that. | ||
| This is part of the DIY conundrum. | ||
| Well, it's also part of the promoting artist conundrum. | ||
| Because the thing that makes you a really good artist also makes you shit at promoting. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| But different things. | ||
| That's what's cool about getting teams around you. | ||
| Right, but then they get obsessed with you and they get weird. | ||
| No, good PR. It's fucking great. | ||
| No, honestly, it's you having us on your thing, dude. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| I get this. | ||
| Game change it. | ||
| If only you guys could figure out how to get one of your favorite fucking songs online so I could play it, that'd be a shit. | ||
|
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Damn it. | |
| I feel like it's time to go barbecue now. | ||
| We're definitely going to go barbecue. | ||
| We're just going to play the song and then we're going to barbecue. | ||
| Oh, hell yeah. | ||
| What else to say? | ||
| Vegas this weekend, Friday night. | ||
| I'll be at the Ka Theater at the MGM with Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| It's where they do the Cirque du Soleil. | ||
| How fun! | ||
| Are you going to get up in there with your leotard on? | ||
| They put me in a diaper and they connect wires to the diaper and they fly me through the sky. | ||
| I feel like people would pay a lot of money to see that. | ||
| No, they have this crazy setup back there. | ||
| We don't use it. | ||
| We just use the flat stage, but the setup's insane. | ||
|
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I want to go. | |
| Can I go? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Ben, you want to go to Vegas? | ||
| Oh, it's your birthday weekend. | ||
|
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How dare you? | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Is it your birthday weekend? | ||
| Oh, looks like someone's going to Vegas. | ||
|
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Someone needs to go to the UFC. What are we doing for the birthday? | |
| UFC, Saturday night. | ||
| We're going to get in trouble. | ||
| In Vegas. | ||
| If you and I go to Vegas, it's going to be trouble. | ||
|
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Good fight. | |
| What do you mean? | ||
| We're going to make lots of money? | ||
| Oh, you guys gamble? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So we have no solution so far. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| I've never heard of such a thing. | ||
|
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We were talking about Mystique earlier. | |
| No, it gets compressed. | ||
| It shouldn't, though. | ||
| Yeah, the texting did it. | ||
| It wasn't attached in the email when I tried to put my email in there, so I bailed and went a different route. | ||
| Uh, this is not gonna work. | ||
| People are gonna find it, those hackers. | ||
| They're gonna send Jamie dick pics all day. | ||
| Don't do it to them. | ||
| Come on, you wanna see it? | ||
| You could just forward them to me. | ||
|
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That's fine. | |
| Have you gotten dick pics before? | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Now when you get them, you're like, really? | ||
| Well, it depends on if I'm into it or not. | ||
|
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But there's a great dick pic, which is the actual... | |
| It's... | ||
| You gotta dress them up. | ||
| Dress up the dicks. | ||
| I'm gonna send this to Joe. | ||
| Hats. | ||
| You ever see that one, that dude that turned his dick into a dragon? | ||
| And he put, like, tattoos all over his dick and bolts in it and shit. | ||
| That sounds awful. | ||
| Unless you're into dragon dicks. | ||
| I'm gonna just, Joe... | ||
| Got a dragon on my back! | ||
| Joe, do you have your phone on you? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna send you a dick pic. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Finally! | ||
| We've been friends a long time, but I feel like... | ||
| It's about time. | ||
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It's about time we crossed this threshold. | |
| Oh, solid. | ||
| Solid. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's about in line with the other jokes you've been throwing down. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| It's a dick on a pick, folks. | ||
| A guitar pick. | ||
| Joe, just to make you feel better, I'm going to send you a dick pick. | ||
| No, you don't have to. | ||
| I've seen them. | ||
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It's fine. | |
| He's seen them all. | ||
| He's seen the one with the guy who's a football player and he could fit into the shoe. | ||
| Do we got anything going on, Jamie? | ||
| No? | ||
| Should we end this? | ||
| I feel like we should just... | ||
| Oh, it didn't... | ||
| Oh, sorry, guys. | ||
| Did it go through? | ||
| I could play the one where they were on here on the podcast. | ||
| We could do that. | ||
| Jamie really wants to play that one, I feel like. | ||
| Well, he knows it's a good audio quality. | ||
| Okay, let's do that one. | ||
| Is it still daylight outside? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| It's daylight until 8 p.m. | ||
| now. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I was shooting bows and arrows at 7.45 the other day. | ||
| You were? | ||
| Yeah, it was clear enough. | ||
| Where do you shoot them? | ||
| Into the abyss? | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| Joe, where do you shoot your arrows? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Unfortunate spots. | ||
| Joe, I just sent it to you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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How's that going to work? | |
| It says sent. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And you sent it to Jamie and it didn't work? | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| I mean, that's what it's feeling like. | ||
| Hey, tip of the hat to your lava lamps. | ||
| I'm just going to say that right now. | ||
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Old school. | |
| I like them a lot. | ||
| I feel entranced by them. | ||
| I'm trying to go as hippie as I can without being a hippie. | ||
| No, that's totally cool. | ||
| You've got a salt rock lamp. | ||
| I'm just going to say that that's great. | ||
| I've got a couple of those. | ||
| One of them died on us. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, very sad. | ||
| Did it lose its positive ions? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I think it's just the power cable crapped out. | ||
| That one's dead, right? | ||
| Does that one not work anymore? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that one doesn't work, but that one works. | ||
| See, that one is lit up. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's a good size. | ||
| It's next to your Marshall amp. | ||
| Is that Marshall amp also like a... | ||
| Radio? | ||
| It's a Bluetooth speaker. | ||
| Yeah, I want one of those really badly. | ||
| Yeah, we can have that one. | ||
| They sound great. | ||
| You want it? | ||
| No, it's yours. | ||
| Nope, you can have it. | ||
| Gotta clear this place out anywhere. | ||
| What? | ||
| Got a new studio. | ||
| Okay, I'll take it. | ||
| Did that go through? | ||
| Yes, and I sent it to Jamie. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We got this. | ||
| This sounds better. | ||
| August 11th. | ||
| Suzanne Santos' new album. | ||
| I bet you were a punk kid when you were young. | ||
|
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I bet you were a punk kid when you were young. | |
| Flashing your cut, tearing shit up. | ||
| I bet you were a punk. | ||
|
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Cause it takes one to know I'm prodigal son. | |
| Yeah, I'll bet you were I've been working out for you Who's coming around for you? | ||
| Say you're stuck on all your balance. | ||
| Oh, honey, you're a fucker. | ||
| I bet you made your mama cry when you were young. | ||
| I bet you made your mama cry. | ||
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Shining the cross, ripping her off, cutting it down to signs. | |
| She's a good one with a bad son. | ||
| Oh, very wide. | ||
|
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You always made her cry, honey. | |
| Oh, oh. | ||
| How's that working out for you? | ||
| Who's coming around for you? | ||
| Say you're stuck on all your balance. | ||
| Oh, honey, you're a fucker. | ||
| What? | ||
| You feel so fast Hanging on your own day Waiting on the innocent man Oh, | ||
| Lord I'm feeling Lord I'm feeling bad | ||
| How you do, yeah, I'm feeling bad for how you do. | ||
| Somewhere along the line somebody gave it to you. | ||
|
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On the right side and the wrong side, no matter how you do, I feel for you. | |
| I feel for you. | ||
| I'm out working out for you. | ||
| Who's coming out for you? | ||
| Take the door. | ||
| I'm on your back. | ||
| I'm on your back. | ||
| You're back. | ||
| Power. Power. Power. Power. | ||
| We did it, folks. | ||
| Damn. |
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