June 8, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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*BOOM* Boom. | |
| That's it. | ||
| We're live. | ||
| We're on now. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Joe Rogan, my man. | ||
| Thanks so much for having me back. | ||
| Thanks for coming back. | ||
| There's a lot of people everywhere I... This is the fucking Tonight Show, man. | ||
| Before I go, man, I heard you on Joe Rogan. | ||
| Heard you on Joe Rogan. | ||
| It's been the last year of my life, so... | ||
| I can stop fucking answering them when I'm going to be back. | ||
| I'm back right now. | ||
| You are back right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Feels weird. | ||
| It feels like I was here like two days ago. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| Maybe you were drinking too much on the road. | ||
| I definitely was drinking too much. | ||
| The last tour I ended up in... | ||
| I don't want to make it sound too bad. | ||
| I ended up in the emergency room in the last tour. | ||
| With the IVs, with the fucking fluids and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I went a little too... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They said it was kind of just exhaustion and, you know, whatever. | ||
| You know, the normal... | ||
| I think the people at the emergency room wouldn't believe me that I wasn't, you know, on hardcore drugs. | ||
| Because they come in and I'm just fucking out of it. | ||
| And I... They're like, where have you been? | ||
| I've been out on tour, and they're like, oh shit, we know what's up. | ||
| And they, of course, did all my blood work, and there was no shit in there. | ||
| Nothing at all? | ||
| No, I think it was honestly kind of just... | ||
| They did find some kind of bug that I had been on that probably was more of it than I thought, but I really do think it was just... | ||
| Kind of non-stop, every night, rocking out and, you know, pushing it a little too hard. | ||
| So you really did wind up in the emergency room? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, the official diagnosis was just exhaustion. | ||
| What were you worried about? | ||
| Like, what did you think? | ||
| You didn't think you could just go to sleep? | ||
| Like, how does one go to the emergency room for being tired? | ||
| What happened was, I was off the tour and I had a meeting with some managers and shit, and in the meeting I fucking barfed. | ||
| Like in a nice building. | ||
| We're in a nice building talking about shit. | ||
| We're actually talking about the shit that Rick is over here doing. | ||
| It was like guys in suits and I fucking threw up on myself. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| And they go, are you okay? | ||
| And I go, I think I am. | ||
| And then they hand me a banana to get some food in me and I couldn't peel the banana. | ||
| So then I drove myself to the emergency room. | ||
| You couldn't peel the banana. | ||
| I didn't have the strength to open a banana. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I do now. | ||
| And then I drove myself to the emergency room, and they hooked me up to IVs, put me on fluids and everything. | ||
| Just to give you an example, when they finally said I was good to go, I went back out and I couldn't fucking find my car. | ||
| And I checked my parking ticket. | ||
| I was like, where's this lot? | ||
| And I called the guy in the lot. | ||
| He's like, yeah, your car's in here. | ||
| The windows are down and it's running. | ||
| Apparently, I just drove myself to the emergency room and fucking closed the doors and walked into the emergency room and said, help me. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| We talked about it last time. | ||
| A guy who was a big help to me then. | ||
| I reached out to Sturge. | ||
| I was like, do you ever get... | ||
| At the time, I didn't know I had a bug. | ||
| I thought it was just pure exhaustion. | ||
| Doesn't that sound like the old rock star heroin excuse? | ||
| He's exhausted. | ||
| He has to cancel a tour. | ||
| I reached out to Sturgill and he's just like, yeah man, you gotta take care of yourself out there. | ||
| It's mental, physical, everything fatiguing. | ||
| I think I need to figure out a way. | ||
| It's funny, I forget who you were talking to a few weeks ago, talking about... | ||
| You're talking serious shit about, like, suicide and stuff and about how exercise is such an important part of that. | ||
| And I've been on a pretty, like, vigorous... | ||
| I've been... | ||
| You can't tell, but I've been running a ton, which you've been running, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was talking to a doctor recently, and he was, like... | ||
| He was talking about a study they did with like 200 depressed, he told me it was like maybe 200 depressed people. | ||
| And the study was half of them, they gave Prozac, the other half, they put on a strict like running regimen. | ||
| He said there was no difference between the two. | ||
| It's like they both, they were both helped a ton. | ||
| And the running, I don't want to give out, you know, medical information, but that's, you know. | ||
| Yeah, the woman I had on, Kelly Brogan, she's a psychiatrist, she said that it's more effective, that exercise is actually more effective than psych meds. | ||
| I'm wondering if that, just the fact that a doctor told me that makes me think that he was airing, you know, he still wants to sell the drugs, but I'm just wondering if, like, um... | ||
| Because when I fucking run, I feel fucking great. | ||
| I mean, I can't do it in cowboy boots and shit. | ||
| But, you know, it's hard to do it. | ||
| It's hard to wake... | ||
| When you do the tours, too, it's just hard to wake up before a show and just go home. | ||
| Yeah, it's very hard. | ||
| But you've got to do it. | ||
| You've got to do it like it's brushing your teeth. | ||
| It's just something that is... | ||
| If you give yourself the possibility that you won't do it, then you won't do it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I think in the back of my head, I'm like, well, this is a tour. | ||
| This is a little vacation. | ||
| A little break. | ||
| And that's just, that's when I need it the most. | ||
| So I gotta start. | ||
| When you think about it as a tour, is that what you think about? | ||
| I think about it as work. | ||
| I think about it as work, but I think about it as like, that's my excuse for not. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely more work than anything. | ||
| Yeah, the human brain seeks comfort, man. | ||
| We like to fuck ourselves up by trying to take those little naps that you don't really need and blow things off that you really should do. | ||
| It's a weird thing. | ||
| Shit, we just got back from New York City and I, I fell asleep on the couch for, you know, I just woke up from, I just slept for 12 hours. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And I feel, I mean, I feel great now, but... | ||
| I bet it would help you with this touring. | ||
| I bet if you, like, really got hardcore into shape and started eating right, I bet it would definitely help you with this tour. | ||
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Oh, totally, yeah. | |
| Well, I'm not gonna, we got a tour lined up for, I think, mid-July, and I'm not... | ||
| I'm not going if I don't do, like, if I don't get up and, if I don't make sure there's someone there making me do all that shit, I ain't gonna do the tour. | ||
| Dude, I've been looking at your tour online. | ||
| I've been looking at some of the photos and videos from your shows. | ||
| They're insane. | ||
| Yeah, it's been pretty crazy, you know. | ||
| You're doing giant places. | ||
| I don't know about giant, but, you know, uh, hoping it gets bigger, but, um, it's been, it's been fun. | ||
| It's a, it's a, um, It's been a fucking blast, you know. | ||
| To me, one thing, and I hate to change the subject, but it's just like, you know, I got the new record out here, pointed out, and... | ||
| Still making records. | ||
| Yeah, I think this one's better. | ||
| Jamie, what do you think? | ||
| That's not what I mean. | ||
| I mean, like, actual physical copies. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's the only thing I can bring. | ||
| I can't, like, bring it. | ||
| Like, it's linked to Spotify. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Isn't that weird, though? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's almost like these are kind of silly now. | ||
| Yeah, because I gave it to one guy, he's like, you give it to somebody, their laptop doesn't even have a CD player, and they're like, thanks for the CD, I'll throw it in the back of the car and load it up. | ||
| Well, you can listen to it in the car. | ||
| Most cars still have a CD player, for now. | ||
| I bet they'll stop pretty soon. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| I used to have an Acura NSX and had a cassette player in it still. | ||
| The cell phone holders, that's where they're putting the thing to hold them now. | ||
| Instead of putting it in your air filter thing or the AC comes out to clip on that, there's like a little thing that spreads out and just fits in the CD slot. | ||
| It's taking up space. | ||
| I don't know about you, but my new thing is everywhere I go, you know, I rent a car. | ||
| I'll get to the airport and I'll rent a car. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the first 20 minutes is me sitting in that fucking car trying to figure out the Bluetooth. | ||
| You find that and it's just like every fucking one. | ||
| They make it so fucking impossible. | ||
| Yeah, I love Cadillacs, but goddamn that Escalade infotainment system is a piece of shit. | ||
| It's so bad. | ||
| It's so hard to work. | ||
| Apparently they switched it now and they're gonna do Apple CarPlay, which is infinitely better. | ||
| Yeah, my Uber driver had that the other day. | ||
| I asked him. | ||
| I finally had something to talk about with my Uber driver. | ||
| He was explaining it to me. | ||
| It looked like the whole interface was just on the... | ||
| Yeah, it's like a phone. | ||
| It's not the whole interface because, you know, you can't get most of your apps, but you get things like messages, podcasts, things along those lines. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, what I was kind of getting to before is, you know, we're talking about the crowds and shit, which was when I first put out these crazy records of mine... | ||
| You know, the assumption was, you know, there's nowhere to go, terrestrial radio won't play me, I ain't doing foul and all that shit, but I don't want to kiss your ass too much, you know that, but it was kind of finding this kind of, like, this is all, everything's fucking equal now. | ||
| That was kind of the big breakthrough for me, was like, And I did, a few weeks ago, did Joey Coco Diaz, who's my new favorite fucking dude. | ||
| He's the best ever. | ||
| And I'm now in the Rogan world. | ||
| I did that and Bert Kreischer. | ||
| Oh, you're in. | ||
| It's like doing The Tonight Show, then Colbert. | ||
| And I'm telling you, these things, and I've got numbers to prove it. | ||
| There is no mainstream media. | ||
| It's like, if you go through the back door and do all this shit, it's bigger than that fucking shit. | ||
| Well, mainstream media, if you know the actual numbers that they get, it's not even close. | ||
| Like a good show on CNN might get a million, a million and a half views. | ||
| If we got a million and a half downloads, we'd be pretty bummed out at this point. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy because the week I came in here, I never even told you this, so that week I came in here, someone has access to these numbers. | ||
| I don't have them, but they said... | ||
| I sold more albums from being on here than the artist that week did on SNL. So this is... | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Like, what does SNL get? | ||
| What kind of views does SNL get? | ||
| On a good episode, we'll get 10 million downloads. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| I mean, also, too, here, it's me talking to you on SNL. It's like, do they make it to the music? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| They're just there to do some funny fucking... | ||
| Well, not only that, they don't watch the whole thing, because SNL... I love SNL, sometimes. | ||
| SNL's one of those things, though, they fuck you, like, 70% of the time. | ||
| Yeah, I got really pissed about... | ||
| 8.7 million views, oh, with The Rock. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| Oh, the finale? | ||
| Okay, so that's their big one of the year. | ||
| So their big one is smaller than yours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A normal one. | ||
| Okay, Melissa McCarthy was $10 million. | ||
| Those are their top two for the year. | ||
| Oh, the top two. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So our top one for the year was Alex Jones, which was, what, $15 million? | ||
| And then number two would be Neil, I think. | ||
| And then Alex Jones got to put out a country record. | ||
| He should. | ||
| He probably should. | ||
| Reptilians and black helicopters. | ||
| He could do it, too. | ||
| He's from Texas. | ||
| That shit would sell, yeah. | ||
| I fucking would. | ||
| If Alex Jones just went into country music, country New World Order music... | ||
| I'll fucking... | ||
| Reach out. | ||
| I'll produce that shit. | ||
| You should go on a show. | ||
| You should go on a show and just start talking crazy shit about Sturgill again. | ||
| Yeah, oh, by the way, and this is not for lawyer reasons, but Sturgill Simpson is not affiliated with the CIA, nor is he a trained CIA assassin. | ||
| I want to get that on the record. | ||
| Last time, it's possible, I may have mentioned that. | ||
| I think you did. | ||
| I think you said he worked for James Comey, and he was... | ||
| Yeah, he has no affiliation with the CIA. He's doing some weird fucking gigs in Europe this year that look a little fishy to me. | ||
| And I don't get it, but... | ||
| You think he might be over there doing some hits on the side? | ||
| The lawyer part of me says no, but the sensible part of me, he's doing some dates in Europe with John Prine. | ||
| I think John Prine kind of talks to him, settles him down, and then Sturgill fucking takes him out. | ||
| Who's that guy? | ||
| Who's John Prine? | ||
| You know John Prine? | ||
| Great fucking folk kind of country singer. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| I'm just getting into the country world over the last four years. | ||
| I would almost call him more like folk. | ||
| He's more in that kind of Isabel Sturgill. | ||
| Him and Sturgill share an office in Nashville. | ||
| Yeah, Isbell's in a weird category, right? | ||
| He's kind of country, but he's also kind of folk. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, at this stage, we don't know... | ||
| Nowadays, what the fuck is country? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I complain about it all the time, but, you know... | ||
| Jason Isbell is a bad motherfucker, though. | ||
| Oh, dude, he's the best. | ||
| Goddamn, he's good. | ||
| I heard a few songs from his new record, Sounds Killer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he's gonna ruffle some feathers, too, because it sounds like a little political, which is a no-no in that world, you know, so... | ||
| It's kind of a crazy day. | ||
| Did you watch any of that shit this morning? | ||
| The Comey stuff? | ||
| No, I didn't watch it. | ||
| Did you watch it? | ||
| I watched some of it, but it was... | ||
| I felt like it was a waste. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| Shit we knew before. | ||
| Politicians lie. | ||
| Comey. | ||
| I felt like we knew. | ||
| I didn't see anything fucking new. | ||
| It seems like it's way too easy to fire him. | ||
| Like, you just decide you don't like what he's doing and fire him. | ||
| There didn't seem to be any real, clear, definitive reason why he was fired. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, to me, the main news is, like I said, politicians lie. | ||
| Newsflash. | ||
| And the other one was, like, you know... | ||
| They kept making the point that Trump is different than most presidents. | ||
| He used to host a reality show. | ||
| No shit, we knew that. | ||
| That was their big takeaway. | ||
| Two hours of fucking... | ||
| I just used the time to fucking tweet about my new record. | ||
| I kept tweeting that James Comey was all code for my new record, that he wanted people to buy it. | ||
| I know, I saw some of your Instagram posts that had Comey endorsing your album. | ||
| Yeah, he's a big fan. | ||
| He said he wanted to talk about it during the hearings, because that's a big audience, but apparently... | ||
| They wouldn't let him? | ||
| Yeah, a collusion between me and Comey would have fucked things up. | ||
| Is that what it's called? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, actually, it's funny, because this guy... | ||
| Because they say there's a chance, which is looking less like... | ||
| There's this guy, Luke Combs, who's like my arch-nemesis, even though he's a good dude. | ||
| I just... | ||
| He was up against me this week on the country charts, because my album comes out... | ||
| My new album came out this week, and I'm trying to beat him, and I said on Twitter that Russians have colluded with Sony Records to, like, have him outsell me, and he kind of played along, so we'll see. | ||
| I think they are. | ||
| I mean, Nashville's definitely trying to keep me down, but... | ||
| Are they really? | ||
| Are they fucking with you? | ||
| How are they receiving you now, now that you've become a mainstream success? | ||
| Because I hear about you all the time, Donald Cowboy Cerrone, I think you know that, he listens to your music before he goes out and fights. | ||
| Oh, Cowboy Cerrone reached out to me thanks to you. | ||
| He called me up and he was on the set of a movie. | ||
| With Michael Madsen and they go, I don't know how, it seems like last second, but they go, hey, cowboy, you got a scene tomorrow where you sing karaoke with Michael Madsen. | ||
| Any song you want to sing? | ||
| And he's like, fucking eating pussy, kicking ass. | ||
| The producer's like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| He's like, I want to sing eating pussy, kicking ass. | ||
| He's like, do you have the rights to this song? | ||
| He's like, I'll have it in like five minutes. | ||
| And he just fucking calls me. | ||
| I call my people. | ||
| He's like, now I'm in a movie with Cowboy Cerrone and Michael Madsen singing Eatin' Pussy, Kickin' Ass. | ||
| And he said he was in the trailer, you know, like, you know, rehearsing with Michael Madsen, you know, gets to the Suckin' Dick Park. | ||
| And I think he was just like, what the fuck we singing here, man? | ||
| So yeah, he's been awesome. | ||
| And, um... | ||
| Yeah, like I said, too, I'm now in, like, your world, you know, doing... | ||
| I just did... | ||
| I was telling you before, I did Joey, Coco, Diaz, Bert Kreischer, like, all these dudes. | ||
| It's like, it's cool to have... | ||
| It's cool, because I went into this second album, I was like, I gotta make my fucking money back, you know? | ||
| It wasn't about the money, I'm just saying, it's like, what am I gonna... | ||
| It's gonna be the same shit again, but, like, knowing I have these other places to go now is so fucking great. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's... | ||
| There's a transition happening, and I think for the longest time, they always felt like... | ||
| The whole idea of mainstream media, that was just going to be locked up. | ||
| That was going to be the case forever. | ||
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It's done. | |
| CBS, NBC, the cable news networks, they were going to be there forever. | ||
| That's not really the case anymore. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| And like I said, I've got the numbers to prove it, but, you know, I came... | ||
| Everyone was telling me, you know, you can't get on fucking Good Morning America. | ||
| You can't be on fucking Terrestrial Radio. | ||
| And I just kind of lucked into finding this, and you guys been being supportive and shit. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| These things are, it's all, I think I saw Marc Maron, some guy was tweeting to him like how your podcast fucking it ain't the Tonight Show or something, and he said something back to the guy, you know, it's just all media now, and that's kind of how I look at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all fucking even. | ||
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Right. | |
| I mean, I mean, you guys are probably bigger than what they quote-unquote mainstream media, but to me it's just all part of the same fucking thing. | ||
| Yeah, what's bigger and what's more popular is all kind of silly. | ||
| But the one thing that's different is that if you go to mainstream media, if you go to television shows, for the most part... | ||
| You're not going to get a 100% dedicated audience. | ||
| You get people who are just flipping through the channels. | ||
| So some people might fall upon it because they were looking for it, but a whole lot of people are just going to be flipping channels. | ||
| Like, what's on? | ||
| Let's check it out. | ||
| Exactly, and the people who listen to you, like, that's why the first podcast, you know, I don't want this whole podcast to be a review of the last one, although I wouldn't mind, because I had a blast, but... | ||
| When they tune in to you, it's your buddy. | ||
| If you say buy the new Wheeler Walker Jr. record, they fucking buy it. | ||
| Buy the new Wheeler Walker Jr. record. | ||
| There. | ||
| I said it. | ||
| They're gonna buy it now. | ||
| It's called Old Wheeler. | ||
| By the way, I just found out something. | ||
| Either of you guys know about this? | ||
| I became a hit yesterday on something I never heard of on black Twitter. | ||
| You became a hit on black Twitter. | ||
| You know what black Twitter? | ||
| Jamie's a big fan of black Twitter. | ||
| He alerted me to black Twitter. | ||
| I wasn't even aware until about a year ago. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I didn't know, but the more black people I can bring to country music, the happier I'm going to fucking be. | ||
| Darius Rucker's not bringing in a ton? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Just white girls, right? | ||
| It's all white people, yeah. | ||
| Most of the white girls, too, right? | ||
| Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But no, no, I'm the king of black country. | ||
| And I'll say that loud and proud. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So they took a clip from Fuck You Bitch from the first record and one of the big black Twitter guys put a clip of it and at the top it's like, I didn't know country music went this hard. | ||
| And so then it got millions and millions of views, and all of a sudden, because now the new album, Old Wheeler, is out, and the first one's going back up the fucking charts, too, because of black Twitter. | ||
| So we got white people buying the new one, and black people buying the old one. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, who's this guy? | ||
| If you know Black Twitter, do you know Daquan? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Daquan. | ||
| You know Daquan? | ||
| Yeah, it's a really big Instagram account. | ||
| I'll pull it up for you. | ||
| And who is this fella? | ||
| It's not a fella. | ||
| It's a group of people like the Fuck Jerry account. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| So they're like a business? | ||
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Definitely. | |
| And then Erykah Badu fucking tweeted about it and shit. | ||
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Who's that? | |
| She's a big singer. | ||
| Yeah, she's the biggest singer in the 90s. | ||
| R&B singer. | ||
| The biggest singer in the 90s? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| A big singer in the 90s. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| She's the song Tyrone. | ||
| Tyrone. | ||
| The song Tyrone. | ||
| I feel like I'm calling in from another planet. | ||
| I have no idea what this is. | ||
| This is a fucking black show today. | ||
| Yeah, black Twitter is fascinating to me. | ||
| I thought it was like a hashtag, but it's not even. | ||
| Dayquan. | ||
| Nine million followers. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, go down. | ||
| You'll see it down there somewhere. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| It's on the right, yeah. | ||
| I never heard of a country diss track till now. | ||
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Uh... | |
| 2,700,000 views. | ||
| And that was in a few hours. | ||
| After being on the road for a fucking year, I should have just talked to Daquan. | ||
| Well, there's so many of those guys that have YouTube accounts now, too, that they'll put up a video just talking about something that just happened in the news, and they'll get seven million views. | ||
| You know what's crazy you say that? | ||
| Because one of the guys I work with called me up, and they go, who's Jehovah? | ||
| And they go, somebody on your video keeps talking about Jehovah. | ||
| And so, of course, I look it up. | ||
| There's a guy playing, he just fucking plays video games in his parents' basement. | ||
| And while he was playing the video, and millions of people watch, while he's playing the fucking video games, he was singing my songs, just along to it. | ||
| And the album went back up the charts. | ||
| And it's like, that's the world we live in now, is a dude in his mom's basement singing... | ||
| Sorry if you don't live in your mom's basement, Jehovah. | ||
| He probably doesn't. | ||
| He's probably making millions of dollars playing video games. | ||
| That's what's crazy. | ||
| And then he tweets me. | ||
| He goes, I always thought about doing a podcast. | ||
| He goes, you mind if I just Skype in and just try it out with you? | ||
| And I'm like, that's where other artists would just be like, fuck that. | ||
| I go, I'm home. | ||
| Yeah, let's do it. | ||
| So I went on his... | ||
| He posted an interview with me on his YouTube page, and it just... | ||
| I don't know that it was huge, but it was just like, why say no? | ||
| It's like you said, it's all fucking even now. | ||
| Yeah, it might not even be even. | ||
| Guys like that PewDiePie guy, I don't know how much he's dropped off since the Nazi controversy. | ||
| But that guy, he has millions and millions of downloads for every single thing he does. | ||
| Like, he might be above mainstream media. | ||
| I think that's one of the reasons why he felt like they were going after him. | ||
| Like, the Wall Street Journal went after him. | ||
| Was it the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal? | ||
| Wall Street Journal? | ||
| I think it was both of them eventually. | ||
| They went after him and they kind of made it seem like he was a Nazi sympathizer. | ||
| He was making a few inappropriate jokes, apparently. | ||
| What'd he say? | ||
| He just joked around and did like a Sieg Heil salute or something like that, but he was apparently making fun of people that were Nazis. | ||
| Making fun of the idea of being Nazis. | ||
| That's all been distorted and twisted. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| This new record, I feel like there's people out there that are coming after me and trying to make sure I don't chart high. | ||
| By the way, I'm banned from all the chains. | ||
| Are you really? | ||
| Best Buy? | ||
| Best Buy, Walmart. | ||
| Who fucking buys this stuff anymore on there? | ||
| Exactly, but the weird thing is country music fans do, and that fucking pissed me off. | ||
| And there was this other site, Pledge Music, where you can pre-order albums. | ||
| I was the first album they ever dropped. | ||
| So they're buying CDs still. | ||
| Is that one of the few genres that still buys CDs? | ||
| First of all, one of the few genres that buys CDs. | ||
| So I can't compete on the charts as well, because they're making sure I don't go... | ||
| And I think, honestly, it's not just the language that's bothering me, it's the fact that I'm doing it outside this. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, you can't go on Rogan and Joey Diaz and, you know... | ||
| Like, we have a way that we do it. | ||
| We do it on the radio, we go on fucking Tonight Show, like, you're messing up... | ||
| Like, it's all these guys in suits walking down Music Road in Nashville, like... | ||
| Don't tell anyone that nobody needs us or you're going to fuck up our fucking jobs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think also they don't like that you're opening up the door for people doing pretty much anything in country music now. | ||
| With the crazy fucking lyrics and the fact that it's been so successful. | ||
| And you got people, you got a whole goddamn theater filled with thousands of people singing along to eating pussy and kicking ass. | ||
| My favorite one is when I go out on tour and I see a sea of just, like, dude, you know, bros, backwards baseball hats, and they're all singing along, which one of you queers is going to suck my dick? | ||
| And they're singing every fucking word. | ||
| And for all I know, I was going to call it the Make America Gay Tour, just because I think they're all going home. | ||
| I think because they listen to everything, I think they're just going home and blowing each other. | ||
| Do you think that you have that kind of power with a really good song, Get a Guy to Go Homo? | ||
| I mean, if anyone can, it's me, because my songs are that fucking good. | ||
| But there's no way these dudes have ever in their life screamed, which one of you queers are going to suck my dick. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine. | ||
| In a fucking open fucking area. | ||
| Yeah, but along with a bunch of other people doing it. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Gives them freedom. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's weird. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably weird for their wives when they go... | ||
| If they have a wife. | ||
| Yeah, what'd you do tonight? | ||
| We went out with 800 dudes and screamed about blowing each other. | ||
| She'd go, hmm, did you actually blow each other? | ||
| Like, girls will find a loophole. | ||
| Like, no, we didn't actually do it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, I think I'm kind of... | ||
| I'm hoping to get some of the women back with this... | ||
| Do you think you lost a lot of them with Fuck You, Bitch? | ||
| No, the women... | ||
| That's women's favorite song, because I think they can... | ||
| They could sing it, too. | ||
| They see it, like, from... | ||
| A victory perspective? | ||
| Yeah, that they had that much... | ||
| For example, the woman who made me write Fuck You Bitch had that much power over me to make me write that fucking song. | ||
| Does she know who she is? | ||
| I think she does now, unfortunately. | ||
| Do you think she laughs? | ||
| No, I think she's honestly upset. | ||
| And that's happened a couple times. | ||
| I've been on some... | ||
| You know, there's this podcast I fucking love called... | ||
| I think you've talked about it before, too. | ||
| The Guys We Fucked podcast. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is basically women talking about dudes the way that guys talk about women. | ||
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| And I fucking love it. | ||
| And it's the way women talk about men when we're not around. | ||
| So it's like an eye-opener for dudes. | ||
| But for some reason, there's been no... | ||
| No one's really done that before and I was in New York to impress and they'd reached out before they wanted to use one of my songs. | ||
| I was like, while I'm out there, I was like, can I stop by? | ||
| And of course, I just start telling a bunch of fucking stories and then my phone starts blowing up like, don't fucking, you know, don't fucking talk that shit. | ||
| And I got in a lot of trouble for that one because you can't really go telling those kind of stories on it. | ||
| Because my thing was, I didn't know that the podcast was that fucking popular. | ||
| Yeah, they're very popular. | ||
| They're a good example of what I use. | ||
| People always try to say that, oh, you can't start a new podcast and have it be successful today. | ||
| I'm like, that's not true. | ||
| Those girls started that podcast just a couple of years ago. | ||
| It's fucking gigantic. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of fucking people talking. | ||
| I mean, I lost some pussy over it, but I got in a lot of trouble. | ||
| That's sad. | ||
| Well, don't forget, I got a podcast, too. | ||
| You do? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When did you start doing that? | ||
| Like a month ago. | ||
| What's weird is it was the number one music podcast for like a month. | ||
| And I'll even admit, the problem with doing a podcast now, and I kind of want your notes on this, but the problem is with someone like me who sells records is I don't get the months of... | ||
| Testing and you know, it's like they hear it from the everyone listen to the first you know, there's no way there's I can't experiment as much and I can't you know I see what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah, well your first case with us to our first ones are terrible Well, I'm saying but that was to him but but yeah, but you but it was probably for but it was at least before it got huge Yeah, yeah for sure, but they're still available like if people who I'm gonna start from the beginning They might get to episode three and go fuck this dude Yeah, I mean you were in the early days you were doing just like straight to video right with like video effects and shit like that. | ||
| Yeah, sometimes. | ||
| Yeah, we had snowflakes in the background and we'd do it right to a webcam. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean it's been fun. | ||
| It's it's a cool way to just talk directly, you know to your people, but um It's not my natural what happens is and you had you had you talked a good example about the other day, which is You just have conversations like I've been doing them all over the phone because all the musicians I want to talk to are on the road. | ||
| And when you do it over the phone, it becomes like an interview. | ||
| And I don't want an interview. | ||
| I just want to talk to my friends. | ||
| Over the phone and over Skype, they're both weird. | ||
| I mean, it's better than nothing. | ||
| Some people do it well. | ||
| Like Sam Harris does a good podcast over Skype. | ||
| But I think that it's just you lose something. | ||
| You want to be in the room with somebody. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Bert was the one who told me that. | ||
| Said, like, you know, don't do it over the fucking phone. | ||
| And then I did one in person with a singer I really like, and it was so much fucking better. | ||
| We were just hanging out. | ||
| That's what I liked to listen to when I was in the podcast, is buddies hanging out, you know. | ||
| So when you started touring from your last album, and it was this just out of the gate, surprise, smash hit, took the whole country music industry by storm, what was that like? | ||
| Did it feel surreal? | ||
| Because it seemed surreal on the outside. | ||
| Yeah, what felt surreal was... | ||
| Because of my... | ||
| That's why this one's so much different. | ||
| And I kind of hate it that there's expectations. | ||
| Because I left the studio on the first album with the... | ||
| I just paid cash for it, I think I told you. | ||
| I didn't have a label. | ||
| I didn't have any way to release it. | ||
| And I was just like, this is a great fucking record, but it's a bummer no one's going to hear it. | ||
| And then I finally started getting it out there. | ||
| And so then I really thought it was going to just be like a cult record. | ||
| And like I was going to run into some dude 10 years from now down the street go, you know... | ||
| I dig the record. | ||
| The guys who do the tours for me were calling up like, you're not going to fucking believe this, man. | ||
| We sold out LA. What's weird for me is because it's so country to me. | ||
| We did a West Coast tour and I'm like, what the fuck are we doing a West Coast tour for? | ||
| The whole West Coast sold out. | ||
| It's like, how the fuck did I sell tickets in Seattle and Portland? | ||
| That makes no fucking sense to me. | ||
| Like, do they even know what country music is there? | ||
| I think it's almost like they're looking at me in a glass cage, like, look at the redneck in his natural habitat kind of thing. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I think they're just having fun, man. | ||
| Well, I think they're having fun. | ||
| I think it's that, too. | ||
| I think they're also... | ||
| There are a lot of people out there who do love country music, and if you love it, there's not much of it left anyway, not to mention not much that probably goes to Seattle or Portland. | ||
| Isn't there seemingly some sort of a resurgence, though, in, like, really good country music? | ||
| Seems like there is. | ||
| Seems like there is a little bit, you know... | ||
| You know, there's Sturgill, Isbell... | ||
| You know, the guys who still aren't... | ||
| Chris Stapleton? | ||
| Stapleton, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I feel it, too, but then again, you know, there was an award show on, there's like a country music award show on, like, every fucking week now. | ||
| Are there really? | ||
| Well, there's a lot. | ||
| There was one last night, like, for the CMT Awards. | ||
| Like, how do they even have, don't they just show fucking redneck reality shows? | ||
| But is CMT still country music television? | ||
| Because I think they're, like, changing or something, right? | ||
| Aren't they changing, like, their name? | ||
| Yeah, they reached out to me about something, and I said, I told them I wanted to host the Top 20 Countdown. | ||
| I got a hard pass on that. | ||
| They're like, would you make fun of the artists? | ||
| I'm like, if they're shitty, yeah. | ||
| I'm just like, alright, see you fucking later. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like real country's coming back, but I also feel like the shitty stuff is getting bigger. | ||
| It's not that pop bro country shit which I talked a lot about last time. | ||
| Florida Georgia Line. | ||
| There's a new song by this guy Chris Jansen called Fix a Drink that just came out. | ||
| I'm looking at everything that's coming out the same week as mine. | ||
| The song Fix a Drink, it was the worst fucking thing I've ever fucking heard in my fucking life. | ||
| It's this white guy just kind of rapping about Fox News and he sings about, I can't fix the world but I can fix you a drink. | ||
| I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| It's doing well? | ||
| It's doing better than me. | ||
| There's a lot of mutants out there. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of... | ||
| I mean, who the fuck would... | ||
| I mean, even if you're not an expert music fan, who would want to listen to a song about a dude fixing a fucking drink? | ||
| A dude who wants to fix a drink? | ||
| A dude with limited use of his brain? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's like his main... | ||
| But think about it. | ||
| We know there's a lot of fucking idiots, right? | ||
| Think about how many people are just dull-minded folks. | ||
| And then think about how few people are talking directly to them. | ||
| And then finally someone comes along that does. | ||
| Finally, yeah, finally. | ||
| Enough about, you know, life and, you know, enough Sturgill, you know, about life and, like, what it's about. | ||
| Finally, something I can relate to. | ||
| Just how much whiskey, how much sour, you know, that's what I want to fucking hear about. | ||
| Some people just want life simple down. | ||
| Isn't that sort of always been the knock on country music in the beginning? | ||
| Country music, what it does is sort of reinforces these stereotypes of this simplified world that doesn't really exist. | ||
| They tried to get me on that shit before. | ||
| Did they? | ||
| How so? | ||
| I think they were just like, you know, you're like doing like a... | ||
| You're like mocking redneck... | ||
| You're using a mocking redneck shit and all the crazy shit. | ||
| You know, like fucking your cat and like, you know... | ||
| You know, killing your dog and all that shit. | ||
| I didn't think they got that. | ||
| I was just kind of making fun of my buddies back, you know, like, what the cliche of being a redneck was. | ||
| You know, and I still see it. | ||
| It's weird because we were talking about the political shit, like, in SNL. There was a sketch on SNL near the end of the season. | ||
| I don't know if you saw it, but it was Alec Baldwin doing Trump, and he was in a small town called Union, Kentucky, is what they said, which is actually not far from me. | ||
| And the whole idea of the sketch was that this... | ||
| Which I've been hearing a lot with these Southern people who were so dumb that they voted against Trump against their own interests, which I'm so sick of that fucking narrative, you know? | ||
| Against their own interests? | ||
| How can they say that? | ||
| Well, they're just saying that, like, there's a lot of—there's been a lot of shit in the press about how, you know, these old quote-unquote Southerners and rednecks voted for Trump, but it's like— They're the ones who are going to lose their health. | ||
| Have you been hearing that a lot? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it's just from my point of view. | ||
| But I found it very condescending to Kentuckians. | ||
| I don't like the sketches. | ||
| It seems like the 40s, some character, hey, Mr. Trump, that kind of shit. | ||
| I think that people are nervous because the same thing that you're saying when you're talking about how there's no mainstream media anymore and there's just media. | ||
| When a guy like Donald Trump gets in office, it's changed what being a politician is. | ||
| Because now it seems like anybody could be a politician. | ||
| Now we had a reality star that became the President of the United States. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| There's no real president there. | ||
| It's just a guy. | ||
| We have no control. | ||
| There's nothing we can control anymore. | ||
| We can't stop non-politicians from being president anymore. | ||
| And it seems like they were able to do that for the longest time. | ||
| Obviously, there's a lot of other factors. | ||
| He's very rich. | ||
| He's very famous. | ||
| He handled a bunch of politicians for many, many years and paid them off and understood from behind the scenes. | ||
| Is that going to be the next 20 presidents? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| President Kanye... | ||
| Coming up. | ||
| Mark Cuban is the one they're talking about. | ||
| He's a good one. | ||
| He's rich. | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, why not? | ||
| He'd be superior. | ||
| It's entirely possible he might do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's the one I keep hearing. | ||
| But yeah, it could just be from now on you just buy the presidency. | ||
| Well, it could be. | ||
| I mean, until we figure out that's a dumb idea, that being a president is a dumb idea. | ||
| It's a dumb idea to have one person running shit. | ||
| Just the fact that Trump has the ability to fire that call me guy is ridiculous. | ||
| That he could just say, I don't like what you're doing, you're fired. | ||
| Like, doesn't he have to have some, like, rocks... | ||
| Like, if you get fired from Walmart, they have to have a reason. | ||
| You can get fired from the fucking head of the FBI and he doesn't like the fact that you're not willing to drop an investigation? | ||
| That seems insane. | ||
| Yeah, the whole thing is just fucking... | ||
| I mean, there's nothing more you can say other than that this guy hosted a reality show and now he's president. | ||
| And I think that's another thing that fucking scares people about old Wheeler Walker Jr. is, you know, country stars aren't allowed to fucking talk about that shit. | ||
| You know, you can't talk politics. | ||
| You gotta fucking... | ||
| Right, remember when the Dixie Chicks talked about George Bush? | ||
| They still can't go back. | ||
| Yeah, they're done. | ||
| What happened with that? | ||
| They were essentially blackballed from country music for years. | ||
| For saying that they were against the war. | ||
| Which, by the way, which Trump... | ||
| Basically got elected saying, you know, he kept saying he was against that war, too. | ||
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| So they like, you know... | ||
| Well, I think they said that he's an embarrassment. | ||
| That they're embarrassed that George Bush is their president. | ||
| I think it had more to do with... | ||
| They said it at a club in England, so doing it out of the country. | ||
| It's like, you can't leave the country and talk shit about America while you're not... | ||
| But if that was pop music, that would be super standard. | ||
| Like, no big deal at all. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's the weird thing. | ||
| I mean, like, you know, me and you, we grew up on, like... | ||
| Dylan and you know Beatles and whatever Hendrick people all they did was talk about that shit, you know, Neil Young It's like he has whole albums just you know fuck this Politician fuck this guy and you just can't do it in country. | ||
| I don't know why that is. | ||
| Well, it's the same thing we're talking about that simplified narrative that these stereotypes of This world where, you know, you go to bed, and you get up in the morning, the birds chirping, and you work hard all day, and, you know, and everybody loves God, and it's just this simple version of the world that's boiled down to, like, there's things that are allowed inside this simple version of the world. | ||
| And there's things that are expected, and then there's things that are just not discussed. | ||
| You don't discuss sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you're supposed to keep that to yourself, about sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
| You're not supposed to, in any way, mock the president. | ||
| Well, that's the other thing, too, is my first single, Pussy King. | ||
| That's your new... | ||
| The first song, I put that out, and everyone got so pissed, you know, you can't be... | ||
| I go... | ||
| And I said in the interviews, I'm like... | ||
| I heard worse talk about this on Meet the Fucking Press. | ||
| You know, they show... | ||
| Right, all that grab the pussy talk. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, I'm not grabbing the pussy, I'm just talking about how I'm going to stick my dick in it, with consent, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think I used the word consent in the song. | ||
| But I think even grabbing them by the pussy was implied consent. | ||
| Because he was saying they let you. | ||
| They let you grab them by the pussy. | ||
| That whole thing was so fucking weird because it's like, I hate to still be talking about it, but it's like, I just found it funny. | ||
| It didn't change my opinion of the guy at all. | ||
| Well, you knew he was a scumbag. | ||
| I mean, you knew in whatever ways. | ||
| That's just who he is. | ||
| I think part of it, too, is... | ||
| I don't know about you guys, but I'd never heard that phrase before, grabbing by the... | ||
| You know, it's like... | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| It's not something I'd heard, so it was new. | ||
| Here, I have a question for you guys. | ||
| I have a question for you. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Here's a theory I have, which is... | ||
| Do you think someone in the Trump Organization, I've been wondering this for like a year now, secretly after that happened, because he's smart, no doubt he's a smart businessman, copyrighted that phrase? | ||
| Because you know spring break from now on there's going to be grabbing by the pussy shirts. | ||
| Maybe for a little while you could sell it, but I think that's kind of died off. | ||
| Those things have like a short shelf life. | ||
| Like those fidget spinners. | ||
| Anybody making those fidget spinners? | ||
| Sell as many as you can now. | ||
| Because a year from now, no one's going to have a fucking fidget spinner. | ||
| Is that part of black Twitter? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's kids. | ||
| They have these little things and they spin them. | ||
| And they hold them up on their finger and they spin around in circles. | ||
| And people are buying that shit. | ||
| People buy them like crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I was looking at them the other day. | ||
| I was like, how the fuck did this become a popular item? | ||
| But it won't be for very long. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I've seen those online, just these things spinning around. | ||
| Is that how dumb we've become? | ||
| You're just watching shit spin around? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, there's another thing to do in this anti-stress device that you hold on to, and it's got switches on it and buttons that don't do anything. | ||
| You just hit switches and press buttons. | ||
| And supposedly, like, if you hold onto this thing while you're stressed out and start hitting switches and pressing buttons, you feel better? | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure that works like a fucking charm. | ||
| I think I can go back. | ||
| Let's just run instead. | ||
| Oh, by the way, we haven't even mentioned, but I think, Rick, you're cut. | ||
| I'm so fucking big now, they're doing a fucking TV special on me. | ||
| Yeah, we have a guy here from Showtime who's doing a Showtime special on you. | ||
| They're recording my life and work, and, you know, it's weird for me to... | ||
| That they're making a TV special about me, but they're letting me do it on censored, telling the real story, and I was like, fuck it, just shoot it. | ||
| All right, man, but they follow me around like that, and I'll do an interview in five minutes, and I'll just go get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| How's he with that? | ||
| Does he bring it up afterwards and go, hey, man, the way you told me to fuck off was kind of harsh. | ||
| No, that guy's really cool, because the guy who's doing it I don't know if I'm allowed to say his name. | ||
| He's part of the Jackass crew, so he's literally the show Jackass, so the fact that there's no fucking goat jizz and shit, I'm sure he's just happy. | ||
| Yeah, he's excited there's no explosions. | ||
| And also, don't forget he's working, so anytime someone says fuck off, he's off the clock. | ||
| Ah, there you go. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So he gets to relax. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this Showtime thing, are they doing a Showtime special like you're going to play your music on? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know how much music's going to be. | ||
| They've been following me around forever, and they're going to do like... | ||
| I don't know what the title will be, because like I said, this is literally the first time I've ever mentioned it on any sort of... | ||
| Jesus, it's a scoop! | ||
| Yeah, do you got that Rogan exclusive button you can press? | ||
| Yeah, wish we had one. | ||
| And they've been following me around for years, not years, but for a couple years now. | ||
| Obviously, we've got footage from the old days, so they're going to tell my whole life story. | ||
| And we'll get some songs in there and, you know... | ||
| I was just psyched to be able to hopefully fucking tell it my way and not sick of all these fucking... | ||
| All these lies and rumors. | ||
| Lies and rumors. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it was weird too, because that was another thing too about Comey today, which is, Comey admitted, he's like, they kept bringing up these New York Times articles, he's like, no, that's not true. | ||
| You know, almost like backing up Trump, you know, he's saying like, you know, these stories, if the head of the FBI under oath is saying that these stories, he goes, how much of it's true? | ||
| He's like, none. | ||
| Had the FBI saying that a New York Times article was completely untrue, I gotta believe him, you know? | ||
| Yeah, there's definitely people that are printing things they hope are true with a limited amount of references that can verify it. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, and there's also, too, there's stories that will sell newspapers. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| It's also the bias of the people that are writing the stories who are heavily left-wing. | ||
| You're really freaking me out with that bottle. | ||
| You keep opening it and closing it. | ||
| Yeah, this is still from the airport. | ||
| Are you tweaking? | ||
| No, I'm fine. | ||
| It seems like you got something going on with that opening and closing that bottle. | ||
| I'm going to stop now. | ||
| It's become a fidget thing. | ||
| Like one of them fidget spinners. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| That's why they do it. | ||
| We're selling Wheeler water bottles to get the stress relievers. | ||
| Wheeler-Walker water bottles. | ||
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| Stress... | ||
| You were talking about New York Times something. | ||
| Oh, the bias of the people who are writing it. | ||
| They want to get at Trump. | ||
| So if they have any sort of an article... | ||
| That even might be true. | ||
| They kind of think might be true. | ||
| It seems like it would be exciting if it was true. | ||
| They just run with it. | ||
| I thought that was interesting what Comey said, actually, which is like, because it's highly classified information, he's not allowed to go out there and say it's not true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because that would, you know... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Would put them in a weird place. | ||
| Then you know what top secret information isn't true. | ||
| So he has to keep quiet about it. | ||
| So when he's doing these interviews, and they're rather... | ||
| When he's under investigation, they're giving these statements, how do they justify it then? | ||
| How does he say it's not true? | ||
| Because isn't that still top secret? | ||
| Well, this is, you know, he's under oath and they're asking him, I guess, is just the only reason. | ||
| But there are definitely some questions where he said, I'm not allowed to, you know, I can't say that in an open hearing. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I figured was one of the reasons why Trump could fire him, because he wouldn't be able to talk about the investigation until they hired a special prosecutor and all the stuff that you're seeing now. | ||
| I would assume that, you know, people are like, oh, Comey's going to talk. | ||
| I'm like, well, he can't really talk. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why Trump can fire him, because that guy's under oath. | ||
| And, you know, rather, all the stuff that he's talking about is top secret. | ||
| What's he allowed to talk about now that he's gone? | ||
| Is it the same rules? | ||
| No, it's top secret. | ||
| Everything's top secret. | ||
| I bet he's not allowed to talk about his job at all. | ||
| I bet they could fire him. | ||
| Not fire him, rather. | ||
| I bet they could arrest him. | ||
| Yeah, because he admitted today that he leaked some stuff. | ||
| Yeah, but he leaked stuff that was unclassified. | ||
| He just leaked his memos. | ||
| They weren't classified. | ||
| And people were freaking out about it. | ||
| No, he did it because it was real simple. | ||
| He didn't want to be the one who was making the statement. | ||
| And the way he described that, he had a funny description. | ||
| He said it would be like feeding seagulls at the beach. | ||
| They would just follow him around and look for more. | ||
| And he was like, I just wanted to get the information out there. | ||
| So I had someone put it out there. | ||
| But he was honest about it. | ||
| And, you know, it lets you understand that that's how these people do business. | ||
| And this is one of the ways that information does get beat. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's just... | ||
| I think a lot of it is guys like... | ||
| What was that movie, All the Presidents Men? | ||
| I think it's a lot of guys who think that if they get the scoop, they're going to have a hit book. | ||
| Like, you know, Brad Pitt's going to play them in a fucking movie if they get this fucking scoop. | ||
| Well, there's also that, but then there's just... | ||
| If you're an investigative journalist and you're covering the President of the United States in this unprecedented event where a reality star has become the fucking president, and he's a liar, and he just keeps lying about shit and getting caught lying about shit, and there's a bunch of people that don't care that he's a liar. | ||
| They're like, everybody lies, and they just jump on in with it, and you don't expect a higher standard of behavior from the number one most influential person in the free world. | ||
| You know, he's still tweeting about, like, people that suck and people who get terrible ratings. | ||
| That's the crazy shit. | ||
| I mean, I'll never forget it. | ||
| I remember watching the Republican, one of the Republican debates, and he talked about how fat Rosie O'Donnell was. | ||
| I was like, can we do all the debates like this? | ||
| I fucking love this. | ||
| You know, like a roast debate. | ||
| Like, how the fuck, even Rosie O'Donnell's gotta be sitting there like, why are they talking about my weight? | ||
| Well, Rosie O'Donnell has decided to dedicate most of her Twitter feed to shitting on Trump now. | ||
| She's losing her marbles, man. | ||
| What about Kathy Griffin, too? | ||
| That was fucking insane. | ||
| What did you think about that? | ||
| When you saw Kathy Griffin holding up that fake head of Donald Trump covered in blood, what did you think? | ||
| Well, all I think is how fucking badly do you need fucking attention? | ||
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| You know, it was like... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What did you think best case scenario was? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think if your viewpoint is... | ||
| Like, you want the president's head, I mean, just to twist it, imagine Ted Nugent holding up Obama's head, like, it's over, dude. | ||
| Well, Ted Nugent did, at one point in time, say he wanted Obama to suck on his machine gun. | ||
| He did say that. | ||
| Words are less powerful than that image, I guess. | ||
| I heard a picture's worth a thousand words. | ||
| That's what they're saying now? | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Well, I didn't know it was gotten that big. | ||
| Yeah, maybe more than a thousand if it's a picture of Trump's head. | ||
| What was it for? | ||
| I never found out. | ||
| She's just doing it to get attention. | ||
| That's what it was for. | ||
| She's just dicking around the house and just like, I'm going to hold up. | ||
| She had a photographer come over and the photographer set up the thing and, you know, they covered this mask with blood and she held it up like she was ISIS. I mean, this is not... | ||
| You're not talking about, like, guillotines in medieval France. | ||
| I mean, that's just a sign of a fucking idiot. | ||
| You know, it's like... | ||
| If that's your viewpoint, you've got to be smart enough to know that that's only going to hurt where you're coming from. | ||
| Well, not only that, she did this press conference and painted herself out to be a victim. | ||
| She was saying he's a bully and he's trying to ruin her career. | ||
| And then she was celebrating the kind of comedy she does. | ||
| She was like, you know, I've always pushed the boundaries. | ||
| My comedy is not for everybody. | ||
| She was like... | ||
| Like, relishing the moment to express how she feels about her comedy or to sort of describe her comedy. | ||
| And it's not a free speech thing. | ||
| I mean, no one's saying she didn't have the right to do it. | ||
| We're just all saying it's fucking lame. | ||
| It's an attention thing. | ||
| It's purely an attention thing to the point where there's no entertainment value to it. | ||
| It's one thing if you have some ridiculous idea in your head that is funny or is entertaining. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| What was the best case scenario? | ||
| There was nothing, no thought. | ||
| It was just like, let's do this. | ||
| People are going to see it. | ||
| Well, the only funny part for me was that, you know that guy, Mike, who does all the Photoshopping for Joey Diaz? | ||
| I don't know if you know him, but he's been helping me with some Photoshop. | ||
| And the second I saw that picture, I go, do me a favor. | ||
| Put my head on Kathy Griffin's head and change Trump to Sam Hunt. | ||
| And the dude fucking did it in five minutes, and it looks pretty good. | ||
| And I put it up. | ||
| So then I loved how some of the people thought I was like, I actually wanted to... | ||
| I was like, no, no, it's a comment on the fucking Kathy Griffin thing. | ||
| I didn't hear about the Kathy Griffin thing until I saw her apology. | ||
| That's how I found out about it. | ||
| I found out about it through her apology on Instagram. | ||
| And so I was clicking on this video and it was her apology and she looked like hell. | ||
| She looked like she hadn't slept and she was freaking out. | ||
| As opposed to when she looked awesome? | ||
| As opposed to when she looks hot as fuck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's good Photoshop right there. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| Your head sits perfectly on her neck. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, hair's perfect. | ||
| My beard and her beard look exactly the same. | ||
| I don't think she has a beard, dude. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But, um... | ||
| I saw the apology and I was like, what did she do? | ||
| She was like, I went too far. | ||
| I went too far. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I've seen the comments. | ||
| I went too far. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I'm a comedian and sometimes we go too far. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck did she do? | ||
| And then I went and saw what she did and I was like, oof. | ||
| Like, God. | ||
| I'm trying to think, have you heard anybody... | ||
| Even in the comedy? | ||
| Have you heard anybody defending her? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Who? | ||
| You have to say their name. | ||
| I don't remember their names, but it was a defense of the intent behind it, which I agree with. | ||
| The intent behind it, meaning what she was trying to do is be funny. | ||
| She was trying to get some attention. | ||
| It's like a joke that you do that falls short. | ||
| Like, here's a perfect example. | ||
| Bill Maher's joke. | ||
| Did you hear what he said? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if you people haven't heard, the senator from Nebraska, was it a senator? | ||
| Goddamn this fucking voice of mine. | ||
| The senator from Nebraska, I believe, said you should come visit. | ||
| We can have you work in the fields. | ||
| And Bill threw his hands up and go, not me. | ||
| I'm a house nigger. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| And everybody was like, what the fuck? | ||
| Like, what makes you think you can say that? | ||
| And when he did, HBO released a statement, they were pissed off, and there was a fire, Bill Maher, Twitter hashtag thing going on. | ||
| That one don't you think to me is a little more, at least I understand the intent of his joke. | ||
| Yeah, he was trying to be naughty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He made a mistake. | ||
| Look, here's the thing. | ||
| He's working on a show, okay? | ||
| He's working on a very important show for HBO that is a very high profile show. | ||
| There's an extreme amount of pressure, extreme amount of demands. | ||
| There's a lot going on behind the scenes. | ||
| He's probably working very hard. | ||
| He's probably tired and he's in the middle of this interview And he's trying to make something entertaining. | ||
| The guy gives him an opportunity, right? | ||
| The guy says, you could work in the fields. | ||
| And he's thinking, work in the fields? | ||
| Where are the fields? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Who works in the fields? | ||
| Slaves work in the fields. | ||
| Who's the guy that's in the house? | ||
| Okay, I'm going to say this. | ||
| And he just goes with it to try to be shocking because he tries to be that naughty, edgy guy. | ||
| And it just was lame. | ||
| And it wasn't funny. | ||
| Yeah, I get more pissed when I see his shows. | ||
| It seems like when he makes a joke, he gets mad when they don't fucking laugh. | ||
| That's the part that bothers me. | ||
| He's a silly boy. | ||
| But when he made a joke and it was lame... | ||
| He was just trying to be funny. | ||
| He was trying to entertain people. | ||
| It's important to him. | ||
| His show is important to him. | ||
| It's a very good show. | ||
| He works hard at it. | ||
| And most of the jokes are really funny. | ||
| And there's a lot of edgy, controversial jokes on Bill Maher's show that are really funny. | ||
| And that's the line he pushes. | ||
| And sometimes you cross that line. | ||
| And he crossed that line. | ||
| Is he racist? | ||
| Fuck no. | ||
| Is he a bad guy? | ||
| No. | ||
| Is he an idiot? | ||
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| He made a fucking mistake. | ||
| He's a human being. | ||
| It wasn't like the N-word slipped out talking derogatory. | ||
| He was trying to make a point about slavery. | ||
| He was just trying to be silly. | ||
| He was trying to be funny. | ||
| He's not like being... | ||
| Remember when Dog the Bounty Hunter got caught? | ||
| Dropping a bunch of N-bombs by people? | ||
| There's a way... | ||
| Look, there's no words that are forbidden. | ||
| And the idea that that word exists in... | ||
| Countless rap songs, but you can't sing along to those rap songs? | ||
| Are you a racist? | ||
| And yet I'm fucking banned from Walmart. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| I think those rap songs are banned from Walmart, too, though. | ||
| You know what I found out recently, which is those... | ||
| There's Walmart versions of all those albums. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Oh, where they take out the cuss words? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know how I know that? | ||
| I fucking ordered on iTunes once a copy of one of the dead... | ||
| Not dead presidents. | ||
| Who the fuck was it? | ||
| It was one of those hardcore rap bands. | ||
| And as I was listening to it, it was all this like... | ||
| Backwards shit, yeah. | ||
| No, like bleeped out or like empty spots where there was the... | ||
| I downloaded an Eminem album and I heard all these backwards sounds. | ||
| I thought it was like any of those old Sgt. Pepper shit. | ||
| I guess they took all the bad words and just played them backwards. | ||
| Even worse, I listened to one from Gangstar, and they had alternative words. | ||
| Alternative words? | ||
| And I was like, oh no. | ||
| You can't have alternate words for Gangstar. | ||
| My thing is, why don't the hip-hop guys, why don't just all those Jay-Z or some big guy go, fuck this, we ain't doing this anymore. | ||
| I think they're not doing it anymore, but the reason why they do it is for money. | ||
| There's so much money out there. | ||
| I mean, if they can get their shit played on radio and get the more... | ||
| It's all about exposure. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's all about the most amount of people that you can reach with your stuff. | ||
| Yeah, well, they asked me to do a clean version. | ||
| I said no. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| But my morals definitely is going to cost me a lot of fucking cash. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I don't think so I think in the long run it'll save you money because it'll Elongate your career because if someone's a fan of yours and they're at a barbecue and someone pulls out the lame version like oh You got to hear this guy's fucking hilarious. | ||
| This guy's crazy. | ||
| And then it's like F you bitch F you B You broke my heart Screw you, girl, or whatever it is. | ||
| Well, remember when CeeLo Green had that? | ||
| Forget You? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's not Forget You, it's Fuck You. | ||
| What's the song? | ||
| Again, why can't you say Fuck You on the radio? | ||
| I mean, I know why, but... | ||
| Yeah, it's stupid. | ||
| Because a long time ago, people were dumb. | ||
| And they thought that the sun was 17 miles away, and they thought there was an old man living in the clouds that had friends that used harps, and that you had to be careful with the words you used. | ||
| They really are clinging on to... | ||
| I mean, the same thing in, like, you know, TV and, like, radio. | ||
| They're still, like... | ||
| Like... | ||
| Dude, it's like, there's YouTube. | ||
| We premiered another video from this record again. | ||
| We did the Pornhub premiere, you know? | ||
| Like, fuck this. | ||
| Let's reach the people. | ||
| Yeah, you premiered on Pornhub, which is hilarious. | ||
| How did that come about? | ||
| What happened was my people were just kind of like, you know... | ||
| Let's find a place to premiere. | ||
| They always do this thing where you can premiere a video on, I don't know, what would be an example, like AV Club or some shit, and we're Rolling Stone or something. | ||
| I go, give me those numbers. | ||
| It's like so-and-so gets 50,000. | ||
| I go, what about, look up Pornhub's numbers. | ||
| It was like 200-something million. | ||
| I think Rolling Stone was something like the 8,000th or something biggest website. | ||
| And I go, check out what Pornhub is. | ||
| And Pornhub is like number 19 in the world. | ||
| And I go, let's just reach out to them and see if they'll be the first guy to premiere a country music video on Pornhub. | ||
| The problem is when people go to Pornhub, they're sweaty and nervous and they're just thinking about beating off. | ||
| So you get in the wrong mindset. | ||
| Well, I think after you beat off, you're ready to fucking chill out and listen to some good country music. | ||
| Yeah, but you're also ready to hide what website you were watching. | ||
| I don't know, but I'll tell you what. | ||
| You're going through your browser and erasing your history. | ||
| It fucking worked, man. | ||
| I mean, I saw a lot of people, you know, like, I don't know how many people I could tell you that came up to me like I first heard about you, because they don't want to admit it, you know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the numbers show that people fucking... | ||
| It was crazy, because we premiered it on Pornhub, and they're like... | ||
| It was almost like, you know, if you guys do this for me... | ||
| I'll show that, you know, it works. | ||
| You can sell things besides fucking boner pills, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's also, it's one of the things that if you did it, just knowing that you did it, people would go there to check it out. | ||
| Like, he's premiered his shit on Pornhub. | ||
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| Exactly, yeah. | ||
| People would go there to check it out. | ||
| And it's funny, because we put it up at like, you know, noon or something. | ||
| I was like, I thought it was like hundreds of millions. | ||
| The views aren't that high. | ||
| And someone there was like, wait till five o'clock. | ||
| When people get off work and start beating off? | ||
| Yeah, I was like, at five o'clock the numbers fucking just shot through the roof. | ||
| It's like once that fucking work bell rang, it's like they were fucking... | ||
| Yeah, people get in trouble for beating off at work, right? | ||
| You can get fired. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bummer. | ||
| I wish there was like a section... | ||
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A place. | |
| There's no country music section of Pornhub, you know. | ||
| You think there would be? | ||
| There would just be the Wheeler-Walker section. | ||
| Yeah, right now, I gotta figure out how to, because I set up my own channel to, um, to premiere that video, and I gotta figure out how to turn it off. | ||
| I get alerts on my phone every fucking two minutes, so-and-so clicked like on your Pornhub video, or so-and-so, like, from, like, left a comment on your Pornhub videos, like, I gotta get that shit off. | ||
| It's all day. | ||
| It's like I wake up in the middle of the night to like a buzz. | ||
| Your phone's just getting... | ||
| I look at it and it's like, you know, Trump Jizz 44 digs your new song. | ||
| Did you ever look at some of the comments on porn website videos when they start rating videos and describing? | ||
| That's how I know what to fucking watch. | ||
| Yeah, well, the star system is pretty good. | ||
| But when you get to the actual words, you start feeling real uncomfortable. | ||
| What were you expecting? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't like how she winced when it went in her ass. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Yeah, like, sometimes you'll go on there and you'll see the first thing. | ||
| He's just like, don't watch this one. | ||
| Fucking finish. | ||
| He finishes Insider. | ||
| You can't see shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thanks for the heads up. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| People get mad. | ||
| They think it's fake. | ||
| It's fake coming. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah, I believe in fake news. | ||
| I don't believe in fake cum. | ||
| There's definitely fake cum. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| I've seen fake dicks. | ||
| Actually, I've seen one. | ||
| He always had sex with his pants on because he's got a big fake rubber dick. | ||
| And it has a button in it where he could jizz. | ||
| And he presses the button and it comes out, it looks like, what's that Cetaphil, that face lotion that people use? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| No, no, no, that's for zits. | ||
| Cetaphil. | ||
| It's like that face soap. | ||
| It's kind of like jizz looking. | ||
| I saw one of those too and then right before he jizzed it was like a hard cut. | ||
| You could tell that they filled up the fake dick machine. | ||
| Yeah, they had to pump it up. | ||
| Get it to the... | ||
| I wish I could sit here and honestly say I didn't jack off to that one. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Now, do you think you're going to have more songs that come out on Pornhub, or is that a one-time thing? | ||
| What about you, Jizz? | ||
| You ever thought about going to one of the other competitors' websites? | ||
| They might offer you a better deal. | ||
| Some company called Perv City gave me a free membership. | ||
| Perv City? | ||
| Yeah, I'd never even heard of them. | ||
| They're looking to get through your webcam. | ||
| That's what they're looking to do. | ||
| I think they were looking for me to mention it on your show, and I just fell for it. | ||
| Oh, you did it. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I didn't mean to. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| But they got their money's worth, I guess. | ||
| But yeah, if I could do only porn, I mean, CMT ain't gonna fucking play it, so... | ||
| Now, they won't even play one of your clean songs. | ||
| How many clean songs do you have? | ||
| Like, with no swearing? | ||
| Zero. | ||
| I'm rounding off there, but yeah. | ||
| Would you... | ||
| You know what's weird, too? | ||
| I got one of my new tunes. | ||
| It's definitely an American thing, because I just... | ||
| The CMT of Australia, whatever it is, one of my new songs from the new record is in heavy rotation there. | ||
| And it's thinking about, you know, a stretched out pussy and shit in it. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| And they play it in regular rotation. | ||
| I guess they're just... | ||
| Australia, they don't give a fuck? | ||
| They don't give a fuck in Australia. | ||
| They're savages. | ||
| Those people, they're descendants of prisoners. | ||
| And they're just freer over there. | ||
| And they got... | ||
| I didn't even send them the video. | ||
| I think they took it off YouTube and just put it on fucking TV. No, they're pretty badass in Australia. | ||
| Legalized prostitution. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They want me to come over and do some shows, and I'm like, that's a long fucking trip. | ||
| It's a long trip, but you would sell out over there. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Weed's illegal there. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's so backwards with that. | ||
| You can sing about a stretched out pussy on TV and weed's illegal. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Legalized prostitution, no weed. | ||
| How soon do you think... | ||
| Because I keep looking at the... | ||
| I think weed's going to change big. | ||
| Kentucky, you know, my home state, is the place where I think it'll be the most... | ||
| Because I know a lot of tobacco farmers... | ||
| Friends of mine whose families are in the tobacco farm business, which is like... | ||
| Tough business. | ||
| They need that shit right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They could get their business back, and I don't know why it's not legal there yet. | ||
| It's renewable. | ||
| It's very easy. | ||
| It doesn't require much in terms of resources. | ||
| It's less pervious. | ||
| And I'm seeing the tide change. | ||
| Every time I go home, you see more and more... | ||
| Legalize, you know, from like more and more businessmen and shit in town, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it would really help the economy. | ||
| Well, it's also people realize it's stupid. | ||
| It's stupid just like making whiskey illegal stupid. | ||
| It was dumb. | ||
| They figured that out in the 1920s. | ||
| And the fact that here we are in 2017 and they haven't completely embraced it. | ||
| That's one of the things that pissed me off about this Jeff Sessions guy. | ||
| Like, what a giant step backwards that asshole is. | ||
| Coming back with wanting to bring back Just Say No. | ||
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| Saying that marijuana users aren't good people. | ||
| It was basically... | ||
| What's that crazy movie? | ||
| It was basically... | ||
| Idiocracy. | ||
| No, what's the crazy weed movie from the... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Reefer Madness. | ||
| Reefer Madness. | ||
| He was acting like that. | ||
| He's just a guy who doesn't smoke pot and probably never has and doesn't even know what it does. | ||
| His idea of it is like people doing meth or sniffing glue or something. | ||
| He doesn't know what he's talking about. | ||
| Yeah, it's fucking... | ||
| It pisses me off, too. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| Well, it's also, there's a lot of money involved. | ||
| I mean, these guys are all whores. | ||
| You gotta pay attention to, like, who's buttering their bread. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that have a very strict agenda. | ||
| And if you go out there and start talking about, look, that's one of the things that pissed me off about Hillary Clinton more than anything. | ||
| She gave some sort of a speech, and in that speech she said that she was absolutely, in every sense of the word, against marijuana legalization. | ||
| Well, fuck you, old lady. | ||
| Well, she also said she was against... | ||
| she wanted flag burning to be illegal, right? | ||
| She was also against gay marriage until 2013. A lot of people forget things about her. | ||
| They just think when you just say the word Democrat that you believe in all these things. | ||
| They're strategic. | ||
| Their opinions aren't real. | ||
| Their opinions are their strategic sort of conglomeration of ideas that they think are going to serve them well when they go out in public. | ||
| That's what their opinions are. | ||
| And they forget that it's 2017 and everything. | ||
| There's a record of fucking everything. | ||
| I mean, I was getting pissed because there were a couple of weed companies who wanted to sponsor some of my tour, but it's too complicated right now because on different states, I could get arrested in certain states just for advertising it, which is crazy. | ||
| So I couldn't put it on a tour bus or anything, so there's no way to really do it right now. | ||
| Yeah, and you also become a target in the states where it's very illegal. | ||
| Where cops have been arresting people for a long time. | ||
| You've got them trained to arrest people. | ||
| Then all of a sudden you tell them they can't. | ||
| And they're like, what? | ||
| Well, it's legal now. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| Like, there's guys that still want to arrest people. | ||
| Out here? | ||
| Out here. | ||
| I mean, there's still arrests that are taking place in other states. | ||
| But it's so fucking... | ||
| D.C., for instance. | ||
| Washington, D.C., marijuana's legal. | ||
| People are still getting arrested for it. | ||
| They don't spread that around because I didn't even know that. | ||
| Black people. | ||
| It's not white people getting arrested for it. | ||
| It's black people. | ||
| Black Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, well, they, you know, it's a reason that they can arrest you. | ||
| They can find a reason to arrest you. | ||
| And, look, there's a lot of gross shit that goes along with law enforcement. | ||
| But one of the grossest ones is that these fucking people have requirements for how many people they're supposed to arrest. | ||
| They have quotas they're supposed to be making. | ||
| How many people they pull over. | ||
| How many tickets they write. | ||
| You know, it's been exposed. | ||
| It's the wrong guy at the wrong time, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're the wrong guy at the wrong time, or, you know, the cop just decides he's gonna arrest you for it because it's federally illegal and he just makes a call. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if it's fucked up that you could, you know, I could have a tour bus with, like, you know, You know, bourbon on the side and go across the country and back, and that's fine, but which you can advertise on the fucking road where it can kill people. | ||
| Yeah, my friend Ron White, he runs around in a giant truck that has his number one tequila on it. | ||
| He's got a huge bus, a huge-ass tour bus, which says number one tequila on the side. | ||
| They probably pay for the bus, yeah. | ||
| They probably pay him good money, and I was all psyched about it. | ||
| It's his company. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| I was fucking excited about some fucking marijuana money. | ||
| Like, help me out. | ||
| Get a nice bus. | ||
| Yeah, people have asked me to partner up with them or to get involved, and I'm like, it ain't the time yet. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| You'd be target number one. | ||
| It's just not... | ||
| It's worth it financially, but it's not worth it in terms of, like, the mental mortgage that you have to pay to be involved with something that's semi-legal. | ||
| I've always wondered about that, like... | ||
| I always wonder, like, you know, like Snoop Dogg's on tour. | ||
| If you see Snoop Dogg's bus, why wouldn't the cop... | ||
| They do? | ||
| They do all the time. | ||
| Oh, he's been pulled over before. | ||
| He's been arrested before. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird to just be that adamant about it, you know. | ||
| Dude, they went after Willie Nelson! | ||
| Yeah, you don't go after fucking Willie Nelson. | ||
| Here's the thing, though. | ||
| Like, if you're a stoner, an unknown stoner, all you have to do is just know somebody in a town. | ||
| Like, you don't have to travel with it. | ||
| Like, traveling with it is stupid. | ||
| Like, people that get busted with weed, like, don't you know there's weed where you're going? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think I've gotten off stage once and there hasn't been a joint ready for me for some dude I've never even met. | ||
| Yeah, there's always something. | ||
| But the thing is, do you smoke that weed? | ||
| I usually do, but... | ||
| I would say don't do it. | ||
| Every once in a while I'll smoke it and later that night I'm like, something don't feel right. | ||
| Be careful. | ||
| People are going hardcore. | ||
| People are going hardcore. | ||
| Some dude was telling me about this spray that he invented that's an acid spray. | ||
| It's LSD in spray form. | ||
| And he goes, just as many pumps as you take off of this spray is how deep you go into Alice's rabbit hole. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| There's a new documentary out there. | ||
| I got scared just talking to him. | ||
| There's a documentary out that's pretty good. | ||
| I'm not a big Grateful Dead fan, but there's a documentary out now about them that was pretty crazy watching them in the old fucking days. | ||
| I lack the Grateful Dead gene. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| I watched this to try to get into it, but the acid tests they were doing back then were fucking crazy. | ||
| They would dose the fucking record company dudes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, people just dosed people back then, which is one of the things I think we're seeing. | ||
| That's a dick move. | ||
| Well, I think it's one of the things we're seeing with this Bill Cosby thing. | ||
| I think people had a different opinion about dosing people. | ||
| I think Bill Cosby was amongst a group of many people that were dosing people back then. | ||
| I think it was super common. | ||
| Oh, you think it was a common thing? | ||
| I think it was super common, because they joked around about it. | ||
| You know, Bill Cosby had a whole routine about giving people Spanish fly. | ||
| And he's joked around about dosing people. | ||
| What was the TV show he did? | ||
| He did a routine on someone's late night talk show. | ||
| Oh, I saw that. | ||
| It was Larry King. | ||
| Dude, it's dark. | ||
| And he talks about Spanish flying, and him and Larry King started laughing, as I would have, because I would have thought he was dicking around. | ||
| Right, you would have thought he was joking around. | ||
| And then when you find out... | ||
| I just think all those old dudes that used to go to the Playboy Mansion and hook up and... | ||
| You know, meet all these young ladies, and we're very happy to see them, and I think they were dozing people in the 60s and the 70s. | ||
| I actually say that to girls when I take them out, and if I go to the bar and get a drink, and I'll come back with two drinks, it's like, do you usually do this? | ||
| Because I'm cool, but like, how do you know, you know? | ||
| Right, how do you know? | ||
| Oh yeah, if I was a girl? | ||
| You know, you shouldn't be drinking this, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I won't take a drink if I don't know who it is and someone just hands it to me out of nowhere. | ||
| Yeah, that happens a lot too. | ||
| They'll put shots on the stage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| And then they'll call me a pussy for not drinking. | ||
| Like, I ain't drinking. | ||
| I don't know you. | ||
| I know people. | ||
| I know people personally that have been drugged. | ||
| I know several people that have been drugged. | ||
| It's not uncommon at all. | ||
| Hunt for tattooed woman who drugged and robbed two wealthy men of $200,000 worth of cash and watches after targeting them at exclusive Hollywood nightclub. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The woman, 20, met two men at a Hollywood nightclub on March 5th. | ||
| She went with them to an apartment in Studio City, made them drinks. | ||
| Men say they passed out, woke up hours later, but she had gone. | ||
| They claim $200,000 worth of watches, cash, jewelry, or awesome. | ||
| First of all, these guys are fucking assholes. | ||
| They have $200,000 worth of cash and watches, and they're living in an apartment in Studio City. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| What you guys were doing, you were pimping on a budget, right? | ||
| I know what you're doing, and you just dragged in the wrong cat. | ||
| You fucked up. | ||
| You fucked up. | ||
| You got lucky. | ||
| You're lucky you're alive. | ||
| You're lucky you didn't wake up in a bathtub filled with ice with a big fucking incision mark where your liver used to be. | ||
| And you're lucky that you made it that fucking long. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It didn't happen the fucking first week you tried that shit. | ||
| Dumbasses. | ||
| You got tricked by a 20-year-old, you fucking rookies. | ||
| I might want to... | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| It's almost like you almost want to, like... | ||
| I mean, it ain't cool, but, like, you totally see where she's coming from. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| Yeah, fuck these assholes. | ||
| Fucking dopes, you know? | ||
| Well, they might have been shitheads, too. | ||
| They might have been, like, real gross to her, and she might have been like, I'm finna get paid. | ||
| Just rob these dummies. | ||
| That 200... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it didn't sound like it was too tough for her, either. | ||
| Some about drugging people, man. | ||
| Like, it's a very dark, dark thing to do, though, honestly. | ||
| All jokes aside. | ||
| It's pretty fucking evil, yeah. | ||
| You put something in their drink and watch it affect them. | ||
| Like a lab rat. | ||
| Like, you know, they don't even know what you did. | ||
| I know people that's happened to, like, maybe not even high school or even junior high, and they still aren't over it, you know? | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure, man. | ||
| It could fuck you up for life. | ||
| Rape. | ||
| Yeah, you get raped. | ||
| But I'm saying even like, if you were like in ninth grade and someone dosed you, and you had like the worst fucking day of your fucking life... | ||
| Want to hear something crazy? | ||
| My uncle in Nashville was a med student back in the 50s, and the professor comes into class one day and goes, so here's the assignment for today. | ||
| There's this new thing that the government's testing out called lysergic acid. | ||
| We don't really know what it does. | ||
| So he goes, here's your assignment. | ||
| I'm going to split you up into groups of two. | ||
| One of you takes this, and the other one has to do a report on how he reacts to it. | ||
| You want some weed? | ||
| No, I'm good. | ||
| I got a show tonight, man. | ||
| You do your show sober? | ||
| I drink a little bit, but if I get stoned, I forget all the lyrics. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Because I forget who's fucking who and who's whacking who off. | ||
| You know, it's all specific. | ||
| It's very critical. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, I need to know that Rita's blowing this dude. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| It's all the names. | ||
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You don't have to explain to me. | |
| You've been there. | ||
| But yeah, it actually led to the lawsuit about when you weren't allowed to... | ||
| You know, test drugs on students. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, they did that to the Unabomber. | ||
| The Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, was a part of the Harvard LSD experiments. | ||
| No way, I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Doing what? | ||
| Dosing him up. | ||
| They dozed the shit out of that dude. | ||
| Because didn't they originally think of some kind of truth serum, maybe? | ||
| They didn't know what it was. | ||
| So they were trying to figure out, well, Albert Hoffman figured it out, right? | ||
| He accidentally discovered it. | ||
| I think he was coming up with a drug to induce labor. | ||
| I think that was the original premise behind creating LSD. And he got some of it in his hands and then on his drive home through absorption through the skin, he was tripping his fucking balls off riding his bike. | ||
| That's the whole story behind the understanding of LSD as a psychoactive substance in human beings. | ||
| So they started doing all sorts of studies. | ||
| There's some videos from the... | ||
| I believe it was the British Army. | ||
| They dosed their soldiers up and they filmed them. | ||
| They're running around laughing and giggling and they can't do anything. | ||
| It's like a black and white footage from... | ||
| I want to say like the 50s. | ||
| Yeah, there was a lot of that crazy footage. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| I mean, it's hard to say because it's obviously influenced a lot of great fucking music. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Also, these guys were taking so much acid. | ||
| There was a part in the movie where the drummer for The Grateful Dead was telling the record company guy, he goes... | ||
| I always love these kind of drugged out hippie stories. | ||
| This guy goes, he goes, we want to take a microphone and we want to record the smog in LA. We want to go out to the desert where there's clean air and record clean air. | ||
| And put the two sounds together, that'll be a rhythm track. | ||
| That's a lot of acid, man. | ||
| And they want that to be the drum track and some guy at Warner Brothers Records in a suit is like, what the fuck are you talking about, man? | ||
| Yeah, it's that dead gene. | ||
| I don't have that gene. | ||
| I feel like if you could play the dead to a young fan of rap music that never heard the dead, like a young black dude, just sit him down and tell me what you think about this. | ||
| They'd be like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| That's how I feel. | ||
| I just don't get it. | ||
| It sounds to me like, again, like a bunch of drugged out hippies just noodling around. | ||
| But I think when you're on acid at the show, it's amazing. | ||
| I've heard people say that I was never a fan of the Grateful Dead until I saw them when I was on acid. | ||
| I'm more than willing to agree to that because there's some songs that I've heard when I was tripping that, like, you go, oh, now I understand. | ||
| I remember the first time I got stoned heard in Black Sabbath, I remember saying to my friend, like, are there people who listen to this without being stoned? | ||
| Like, what does it sound like? | ||
| What's the point of fucking Black Sabbath if you're not stoned? | ||
| Doesn't even make sense to me. | ||
| Yeah, but Black Sabbath, to me, I can still listen to, even not stoned. | ||
| They've got some great jams. | ||
| There's something about the sort of hippie nature of the Grateful Dead people, too. | ||
| I was always like, well, you're just running away from life. | ||
| Go get a job, you stinky fucks. | ||
| Fucking dirty hippies. | ||
| But then my own cousin became a deadhead for a while. | ||
| She's cool. | ||
| She traveled with the dead for years, and she was like one of those people that lived out of the back of a VW band. | ||
| They would go to a store and buy bacon and eggs and cook them up for the people that were in the concert, and then they would sell them and shit. | ||
| And that's how they got by. | ||
| They'd sell bracelets and shit. | ||
| Like, she lived like that for, man, I want to say it was more than a year. | ||
| She traveled around with the dead. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it was kind of, because they had a big kind of country influence to what they did, according to this documentary. | ||
| I'm like, well, I don't fucking hear it. | ||
| You know, it's like, I love the idea that they were making kind of trippy kind of country, but it's like, that's not what I'm hearing in my ear. | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
| I get it if you're into that music. | ||
| But I feel like it's like food. | ||
| You know, there's certain people that I just... | ||
| Like my friend Tom. | ||
| I have a friend, Natsugura. | ||
| Tommy Hershko. | ||
| Hey, Tommy. | ||
| Shout out. | ||
| Shout out to Tommy. | ||
| He's a buddy of mine that... | ||
| I've always been a fan of spicy food. | ||
| I can eat some fucking spicy food. | ||
| I go deep. | ||
| But not nearly as deep as this motherfucker. | ||
| There's some dudes that I think their taste buds are just wired different. | ||
| They can just take in a different level of spice than I can. | ||
| It must be affecting their body differently. | ||
| And I know for me, I have friends that don't like anything spicy at all. | ||
| I don't like spicy shit at all. | ||
| It just doesn't get to them. | ||
| To me, I love it, man. | ||
| I eat jalapenos pretty much every day of the week. | ||
| I put hot sauce on everything. | ||
| I'm putting a habanero sauce on everything. | ||
| But some people, it just doesn't work with them. | ||
| The only thing I can tell, I tried these shots of like super, it was like, there's some little shot you can take. | ||
| I thought I was coming down with something on the road once and they gave me this super, something like filled with vitamins and it had some kind of pepper in it that was supposed to help me. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Like cayenne? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And it hurt. | ||
| It hurt, but it fucking helped. | ||
| It definitely helped. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder what the real science is behind cayenne pepper, but they always like to add it to those wellness shots to make you feel like it's doing something. | ||
| Gives you a little woo, it opens up your snot. | ||
| I think it's the way they market it, too. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you feel great right after you get the shot done because you're just kind of... | ||
| Like, can't believe you got it down. | ||
| There was this place that we went to that doesn't exist anymore that was in Encino. | ||
| It was called Chili My Soul. | ||
| And it was a chili place that had levels of chili, like, from mild all the way up to, like, I think, I forget what their system was. | ||
| It was an X system or a number system. | ||
| I think it was a number system. | ||
| And I think the top was, like, 10. And one day I tried an eight, and they would give you a sample, and it was like the size of those, you know those little paper cups that you get like at a hamburger joint that you're supposed to fill up with ketchup? | ||
| Like it was that small, a tiny little thimble full of, I was like, this is so little. | ||
| And they're like, just try it, just try it for a sample. | ||
| And I put that fucking tiny spoon in, like an ice cream spoon, like a sample spoon. | ||
| I put it on my tongue, and I just started sneezing and hiccuping out of control. | ||
| Snot was pouring down my nose. | ||
| I couldn't believe how fucking hot it was. | ||
| And that was just an eight. | ||
| I remember thinking, I had one of those, probably not that hot, but I remember thinking, like, I'm never going to recover. | ||
| Like, my mouth was burning. | ||
| And then I remember sitting on the toilet just like... | ||
| I was apologizing to my asshole for what I'd done to it. | ||
| It was just a fucking attack, man. | ||
| That's what I worry about, especially on the road. | ||
| I can see how, like, you know, like a big band can go, eat the wrong thing, get up there and fucking shit your pants. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| There's also something about really spicy food that makes your shit just want to get out of your body immediately. | ||
| Oh, no, yeah, it was like, if someone had been in that stall at that restaurant, in this particular case I'm talking about, I would have fucking tore through my fucking pants. | ||
| I was going to shit no matter what. | ||
| Would you shit in the sink or the garbage can? | ||
| Which way would you go? | ||
| Honestly, I think at that point, I would have just probably... | ||
| Just shit your pants? | ||
| No, I would have taken... | ||
| I probably wouldn't have wanted to ruin my pants. | ||
| I probably would have just pulled them down and just shit like on the fucking bathroom floor, I'll bet. | ||
| You think? | ||
| It's hard to know. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| What's the move, though? | ||
| If you want to be like... | ||
| I bet there would be a lot of arguments. | ||
| I probably would have gone to the urinal. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Shit in the urinal. | ||
| That's rough. | ||
| Someone's got to clean that. | ||
| Yeah, well... | ||
| Would you offer to clean it? | ||
| Fuck no, but I wouldn't... | ||
| I don't think I would have, you know... | ||
| It wouldn't have been too nice to do it on the fucking floor either. | ||
| Yeah, it's one of the rare things about going to a public place, like a restaurant or something like that. | ||
| You're not, you shit all over the place. | ||
| They don't go, hey man, you gotta clean that. | ||
| And you're like, no I don't. | ||
| It's funny, before I ever hit the road, I was talking to some other- Isn't that weird? | ||
| Yeah, some other musicians, they were just like, the main thing about the road is, and you maybe know, is like, find a good place to shit. | ||
| It's all about finding a good place to shit. | ||
| And I'm like, I put my heart and soul into these records. | ||
| Like, there's got to be more to it than that, you know? | ||
| You're dealing with support people. | ||
| They've already given up. | ||
| Those dudes, they're just giving up on their dreams. | ||
| They're just there to play drums on the road. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But they're just talking about how, like, you know, if you're in this town, there's this one restaurant that doesn't check you, make sure you're eating there. | ||
| What? | ||
| There's like a, you know, they're giving me the fucking toilet tour of America. | ||
| I'm like, you know, if that's my biggest problem, it'll be fine. | ||
| There's something about shitting in a bathroom in a gas station that's actually kind of satisfying. | ||
| It's like, yeah, it's disgusting, but you're not going to ruin it. | ||
| You take a terrible dump in that bathroom, you're just like, this is what I'm here for. | ||
| Or a park. | ||
| When you go to a park and they have those stainless steel toilets that don't even have a lid and you just sit down on it. | ||
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| And you've got to wipe all the piss off of it first before you sit down. | ||
| Yeah, those rest stop bathrooms are pretty nice. | ||
| I've messed some of those up myself. | ||
| Yeah, you can mess them up. | ||
| It's a weird thing that that's where dudes chose to go to get together when they were gay and in hiding, like throughout the 50s and the 60s and the 70s. | ||
| That was like the thing. | ||
| They would go to rest stops. | ||
| It was a hacky joke in the early days of stand-up comedy. | ||
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| Yeah, guys meeting at rest stops. | ||
| I should sell my album at rest stops. | ||
| You probably sell some, for sure. | ||
| Truckers are one of the few people that definitely still have CD players. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They probably have VHS still. | ||
| I definitely have a lot of trucker fans. | ||
| I meet people after the show that's like, you know, I drove fucking 36 hours or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, we do too. | ||
| Shout out to the truckers. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of people out there just... | ||
| I mean, if you're stuck in a truck for fucking 12 hours, you need some goddamn content. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I mean, I don't know how you do without, like... | ||
| I think some of those guys don't know technology that well, but without having access to podcasts or fucking Spotify, that shit, how would you fucking survive? | ||
| Those guys, you'd be amazed. | ||
| I think truck drivers are more in tune with that kind of technology, like entertainment technology, that they can take in while they're driving, than anybody. | ||
| What is that, Jamie? | ||
| It's the luxury sleeper cab for a long-haul truck. | ||
| Oh wow, it's a goddamn apartment. | ||
| That's what I need to get. | ||
| That's that big? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's like a camper. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Well, that's cool for him, man. | ||
| So he just goes back there when he's done. | ||
| Oh, there's the thing. | ||
| He goes there, but he's got a coffee machine there and shit. | ||
| I can live in that. | ||
| Yeah, one of my buddies got one of those with a shower in it, too. | ||
| He's got a magazine thing. | ||
| But you know, it's still the rule. | ||
| You can't shit in it, no matter what. | ||
| Yeah, you're not supposed to shit in those things. | ||
| However nice it is. | ||
| Well, people do it, though. | ||
| They wreck those things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's... | ||
| I mean, still, it's a sucky job for those poor bastards. | ||
| And they all get fucked up backs. | ||
| You're sitting in that chair all day. | ||
| Ergonomic chairs for driving a car. | ||
| That's what they need, right? | ||
| And hemorrhoids too, right? | ||
| How come no one's figured that out? | ||
| Hey, Ergo Depot, I got a fucking task for you. | ||
| How about you guys figure out replacement car seats? | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| You could sit in this. | ||
| You could sit in this and drive in cars that keep you straight up. | ||
| Yeah, I'll bet there's tons of cushions and weird shit you can buy. | ||
| Yeah, there are. | ||
| They say the lumbar thing is the big one because it forces your body to stay straight instead of that hump thing. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, there's probably uncomfortable shit that's probably good for you that makes your back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're supposed to sit like this. | ||
| You're supposed to sit straight up. | ||
| That's why they say those balance balls are really good, like sitting on balance balls are good, because you kind of have to sit up straight. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of guitarists have a lot of back problems because you put it on and it's not really that heavy, but just a little bit of weight every night of your fucking life. | ||
| Right. | ||
| After 30 years, it'll start to get to you a little bit. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| In the exact same place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like people that wear backpacks are probably the same thing, right? | ||
| It's just pulling on you. | ||
| Slowly but surely. | ||
| Women with purses. | ||
| They say women with big tits. | ||
| You wouldn't think that tits would fuck your back up. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it happens a lot. | ||
| I know people who've had breast reductions because it's helped their back. | ||
| Oh, I knew a girl who had one. | ||
| And that's another thing, too. | ||
| I saw a funeral. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I threw a funeral for her old tits. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| No, I was definitely bummed, but... | ||
| But for her, she's probably like, God damn it. | ||
| She was one of those girls who was always like a pain in the ass, like, I got these fucking giant things. | ||
| Giant jugs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably annoying as hell. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Imagine if your dick was so heavy, it'd hurt. | ||
| What do you mean, imagine? | ||
| I mean, imagine. | ||
| Is your dick that heavy? | ||
| No fucking way. | ||
| I was gonna try, like the Sergio thing. | ||
| I'm gonna start a rumor here that my dick's too heavy and I gotta be rolled around in a wheelchair to my shows. | ||
| Well, who's the guy that they said had the giant hog? | ||
| Milton Berle. | ||
| They would say Milton Berle would just whip his hog out just to settle everybody the fuck down. | ||
| People would be talking a bunch of shit and Milton Berle would go, just let me show you something here. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| Yeah, who's got the biggest fucking... | ||
| Just pull his hog out. | ||
| Like how big, how big, I mean, what are we talking here? | ||
| Ten inch limp. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Monster hog. | ||
| Fat. | ||
| Can you even get erect if you're ten inch limp? | ||
| Yes, he could. | ||
| Milton Berle could. | ||
| That's like an elephant, yeah. | ||
| Milton Berle on the rumors of his endowment. | ||
| Let's hear this. | ||
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Don, by word of mouth, you never know how much truth there is to any of them. | |
| So just once, for the record, Milton, is it true? | ||
| Are you talking about my endowment? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Endowments? | ||
| Is it true? | ||
| All I can say is that I'm still working on it. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
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No. | |
| That's been thrown at me so many times, that question. | ||
| I don't know what's so thrilling about, is it true? | ||
| I really don't know. | ||
| You know, I'm not the only man in the world. | ||
| There are better men than me. | ||
| Of course, you'd have to show them to me. | ||
| Now, I've had a little success with it, even recently at 88, so it seems quite true. | ||
| All I know that when I get an erection, I black out. | ||
| I'll bet that's fucking true. | ||
| I really do hope that he was getting laid at 88. They say that... | ||
| I had a friend, and one of her friends worked at a nursing home, and she was saying that they just fuck like cats and dogs in that place. | ||
| I believe it, yeah. | ||
| Those old dudes get a hold of Viagra, and they don't give a fuck. | ||
| And it's like a dormitory. | ||
| It's like they don't have any responsibilities, because, look... | ||
| Viagra probably changed their whole fucking game. | ||
| Oh yeah, changed the game. | ||
| But here's the thing when you think about people in nursing homes, right? | ||
| Essentially, no one can take you in, right? | ||
| You have to be in a nursing home because your family can't handle you anymore, or it's just you need assistance. | ||
| So as soon as you start getting assistance, right, you get assisted living. | ||
| It's not good, but it's also you have less responsibility, less things to think about, less things to worry about. | ||
| You're in this assisted living place, and you're with a bunch of other chicks that are just like you. | ||
| In the same boat, and they're like, come on, girls. | ||
| It's not like you get to a certain age, you just get tired of dick, right? | ||
| They probably still want some dick, and they probably remember 20, 30 years ago when they were young and hot, and the guys can kind of remember it, too, and they're like, let's just do this. | ||
| What else are they going to do? | ||
| Play bingo? | ||
| But also, yeah, their nephews come by with fucking chocolates. | ||
| You'd much rather have a dick than, you know. | ||
| Yeah, probably someone's coming by trying to change the will, get them to sign some shit. | ||
| It's probably gross. | ||
| Imagine talking to your relatives. | ||
| You know they're trying to weasel you out of money. | ||
| Just wait. | ||
| Yeah, we got an aunt like that in Nashville right now where it just feels like everyone's stopping by just to hope to get into, you know, gonna have your fucking apartment when you're gone. | ||
| Oh, dude, it happens. | ||
| I know a family where the son tried to get the mom to change the will and the other son found out about it and they start suing each other and fucking Christ. | ||
| Over your mom's money? | ||
| Like, really? | ||
| But it's real common. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| Everybody thinks they're right, you know? | ||
| It's like, oh, I helped her. | ||
| I have the right to this. | ||
| Everybody gets real weird. | ||
| Uncle Mike said that... | ||
| I always like it when they have those wills where the guy, you know, those really rich guys, and all of a sudden there'll be like a mystery, like five million to some girl who they never knew, you know? | ||
| There's some secretary who used to work for like 20 years ago that he stuck it in there. | ||
| Yeah, he's throwing dick at her for years. | ||
| Nobody knew. | ||
| That would be the best relationship. | ||
| If you had, like, a secretary to keep her mouth shut. | ||
| You guys just both smashed it. | ||
| And you could say, I'll leave you something in the will. | ||
| You ain't got to pay her then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, is that what it is? | ||
| Paying her? | ||
| Maybe she liked the dick. | ||
| As a gift. | ||
| Saying, like... | ||
| I'm gonna start telling women that. | ||
| That you leave some money in the will? | ||
| My last album, Broke Even, you can have half of it. | ||
| But with your reckless lifestyle, don't you think that they would be worried that you would die penniless? | ||
| Because you're so impulsive and... | ||
| Well, I'm gonna be penniless soon if these things don't turn around, but yeah. | ||
| Did your record really just break even, as many as you sold? | ||
| Yeah, well, I say that as a joke, but not really a joke, because... | ||
| What I did was I took all the money and put it into the new record. | ||
| So, in a weird way, I've seen no money from it, but I have... | ||
| Touring money, though. | ||
| But I have, you know, like... | ||
| I'm putting everything I have into the new band, into the new record. | ||
| Do you mind saying how many albums you sold? | ||
| I forget what it was. | ||
| I mean, it was a crazy number for physical. | ||
| It was like over 50,000 physical copies, which is... | ||
| That's very rare. | ||
| Which seems rare, which to me didn't seem like very much. | ||
| Dude, someone brought me in a CD just a few days ago, and I was like, look at this thing. | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| Oh, it's Everlast. | ||
| He brought me in War Porn. | ||
| Here's another thing. | ||
| Can you read that? | ||
| You think you can read that bottom, the white part? | ||
| What does that say? | ||
| Infestation? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It says war porn. | ||
| Yeah, man, you gotta fix the font on that shit. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I've been saying. | ||
| And he's like, no, it's art, man. | ||
| It's art. | ||
| I was like, okay. | ||
| Well, art, people aren't gonna know what it's like. | ||
| Get out of here with that shit. | ||
| Yeah, I've been having a lot of issues, too. | ||
| I'm fucking pissed at Spotify right now. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| Here's my issue with Spotify, which is... | ||
| I don't know if you guys use Spotify, but almost everybody does. | ||
| And people don't know this. | ||
| I'm going to get the truth out. | ||
| Which is, those big giant numbers you see on Spotify. | ||
| The thing that people do, people not like me and you, but there's these playlists that are fucking huge. | ||
| Some people just go on Spotify and listen to country hits. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or country, wild country. | ||
| I don't know why the fuck. | ||
| They refuse to fucking playlist me. | ||
| So everyone else has these inflated numbers. | ||
| When I did your show the first time, Eatin' Pussy Kicking Ass became the number one... | ||
| I probably sent you that info. | ||
| They had the viral charts of the actual listens. | ||
| Eatin' Pussy Kicking Ass was the number one most viral song on the planet after I did your show. | ||
| I said, well now can you put me on some of your country playlists and shit? | ||
| And the guy who runs the country playlist, it's back to the meat, the new boss, same as the old boss shit. | ||
| They hired a guy from Terrestrial Country Radio who designs those playlists. | ||
| And he won't put me on the fucking playlist because I say fucking dirty words. | ||
| So I'm losing tons of listeners and I can't get on the, you know... | ||
| Like when you see Florida Georgia Line with the 100 million... | ||
| A lot of those are just from automatic listens just from those fucking playlists and people don't know that shit. | ||
| We had an offer to do one of those. | ||
| Was it Spotify or the other one? | ||
| Pandora or Spotify. | ||
| Yeah, they do podcasts. | ||
| But I was like, well, you guys have an app. | ||
| You guys have money. | ||
| Like, what's going on with this? | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| Like, you guys are just distributing content. | ||
| So you must be making some money. | ||
| They didn't want to pay you? | ||
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It's very, very, very, very, very little. | |
| It just doesn't make any sense that you would be willing to do it. | ||
| I'm one of the few guys who actually, I actually make, when it gets played, I actually make decent money from Spotify. | ||
|
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How much? | |
| Because I don't, Do you want to say how much online? | ||
| Because I own my own label. | ||
| Most of those artists have to, the label takes all their Spotify money. | ||
| What's confusing to me is like, what's the benefit other than like being introduced to stuff that you never would have heard of before? | ||
| Like the benefit of Spotify is the same benefit you would get from radio, except it's streaming, except it's in real time, right? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the benefit to me is to listen to, oh, I'm on the road, I haven't listened to this Zeppelin album in a long time, and then you have it. | ||
| So, like, you can make a Spotify playlist, and people can listen to your playlist. | ||
| Is that the case? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| You could make one, and everyone could listen to, like, the updated one you share at Diplo is a popular producer, and he has an updated hip-hop list. | ||
| He updates it every few days. | ||
| But there's those official Spotify ones, though. | ||
| That's separate from Spotify official playlists. | ||
| It's just when you search for him and follow an influencer you like. | ||
| So if I started a playlist, I could put your song on my playlist, and then it would be on. | ||
| Yeah, but people, for some reason, they own the interface, so they make it so their official ones are the big ones on the page. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you want to hear the country hits? | ||
| Like, this album's going to be in the top ten. | ||
| They won't fucking play it. | ||
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Huh. | |
| So, I'm not saying I'm banned, but, you know, if they're going to put me on the playlist, then I'm at a disadvantage. | ||
| Like, who the fuck cares about... | ||
| I mean, is it that big a deal? | ||
| But they pay you, so they do pay you when it goes on. | ||
| You actually make, like, you get checks. | ||
| When I get, when people listen, I get paid, yeah. | ||
| See, this, um, I don't, I just don't think, when I, There's a band of like a year. | ||
| You can't do this now, but they gamed the system and they made an album that was silence and told their fans to stream it all night long. | ||
| And so they made a bunch of money just off of the streams being played of silence for like eight hours. | ||
| How could you do that? | ||
| But there was no way. | ||
| They didn't have any writing to stop someone from doing that. | ||
| So do they stop it now? | ||
| You can't do that now, yeah. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| I saw the other day someone uploaded eight hours of rain. | ||
| Well, that's good to go to sleep, too. | ||
| Yeah, but someone's going to get paid for that rain track. | ||
| Someone owns that recording of rain. | ||
| You've got to make sure you didn't steal it from YouTube or something. | ||
| Also, someone had to actually be up for eight hours recording. | ||
| You deserve a little bit of money. | ||
| There's a lot of people who do that to tell their fans, you know, listen to this song, just put it on repeat or whatever. | ||
| That seems ridiculous. | ||
| That's a silly request. | ||
| And it's unfair. | ||
| Like, hey, make me some money. | ||
| They used to do it back in the day, call your radio station and request my song on the radio. | ||
| That's different, though. | ||
| Requesting a song and you want to hear it, that's saying you want to hear it. | ||
| Saying stream my rain 24 hours a day. | ||
| But yeah, these playlists, you know, it's almost back, it's payola again. | ||
| It's like there's one guy who's controlling basically all the radio. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like this one dude is just doing it. | ||
| It's just like, if you're his buddy, you know. | ||
| Well, any of those things, it's like, whether it's Pandora or whether it's Spotify or anything, what you're doing is you're selling or distributing other people's work. | ||
| So you're basically just a distribution center. | ||
| I mean, that's all it is. | ||
| Other than, like, the unique features of the distribution. | ||
| Oh, but you can make playlists. | ||
| Or, oh, you can do this, and people can recommend things to you. | ||
| Oh, there's algorithms, and they can find out what you like, and then you go seek out those things. | ||
| But at the end of the day, if there's no things to seek out, you don't really sell anything. | ||
| That's like the YouTube, you know, people suing them. | ||
| Like, YouTube isn't anything people get. | ||
| It's just a player. | ||
| But YouTube has bandwidth, and the bandwidth is extremely expensive. | ||
| It's a different animal, because you're talking about, they're not just streaming something, they're streaming video. | ||
| Video is, you know, I mean, God, what kind of fucking, and they have to be able to store it when they upload it. | ||
| I mean, what kind of storage is fucking YouTube doing? | ||
| Yeah, where is it all fucking stored? | ||
| It's your mom's house. | ||
| My fucking upper upper fucking cunt. | ||
| Is it different than like a museum? | ||
| Maybe like YouTube, where a museum is a building and they store a bunch of stuff that people come to look at and they have to make some sort of money to keep it running, to keep people there. | ||
| I tried to make this argument the other day that I was talking to someone about it. | ||
| Is it the same or is it completely different? | ||
| Um, there's an argument that it's in the ballpark. | ||
| Well, the argument with, like, when YouTube originally sold for, like, billions, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| At the time, it was mainly just clips of other people's shows. | ||
| Back in the old, now they have original content, now they have, like, people, they pay people back. | ||
| But back when it was sold, people made, people made, there were dudes who made hundreds of millions of dollars, basically. | ||
| Off stealing. | ||
| Selling off, you know, clips of fucking comedy shows. | ||
| Other people's content. | ||
| Other music videos. | ||
| Yeah, that is an issue. | ||
| It was a giant issue with YouTube, but they seem to have ironed out a lot of that. | ||
| Like, if we put up someone's content, like if someone has a... | ||
| Like, it happens a lot with me with animal attack videos. | ||
| Like, any time an animal's attacking another animal or some nature video, if you try to put that up on YouTube, you will get flagged and pulled off immediately. | ||
| Remember last time we got pulled... | ||
| Because for putting on my song, and I was like... | ||
| I told the distributor, like, I give you permission. | ||
| It kept getting... | ||
| Tagged or something, right? | ||
| Yeah, when we had Everlast on, when we were playing his war porn songs, we had to make sure that we had permission. | ||
| They had released the flags on all these things for us before we ever did it. | ||
| We had to, like, coordinate it. | ||
| Well, I get flagged uploading my own fucking videos, which is weird, you know. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I just, they say, do you own this? | ||
| But who owns it? | ||
| I own it. | ||
| You own all your stuff? | ||
| Yeah, I own it. | ||
| You own your videos, everything? | ||
| I own my masters, yeah. | ||
| Even Eatin' Pussy and Kickin' Ass, the one that was on Comedy Central? | ||
| I don't own that video. | ||
| Okay, so when that video gets uploaded though, like say if you took that video and you uploaded it onto your channel, would they flag it? | ||
| Would Comedy Central flag it? | ||
| Maybe, but that one, other than that, that one they would have a right to, I think. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But everything else, like when the Guys We Fuck podcast people called, they wanted to play a song from the new record on the podcast. | ||
| It's like an intro music. | ||
| I'm like, I'll give you permission. | ||
| I own it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even if they come at you, there's no lawsuit because... | ||
| So you don't have something like that where someone's looking for people that are uploading your stuff to YouTube or things along those lines? | ||
| I've actually, like I was talking about those, like, I have had YouTube gamers who want to like, can I upload your video to my channel? | ||
| I'll always be like, yeah, sure. | ||
| Right, but that's not what I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm talking about like somebody just creates a channel, just starts uploading your content, which happens all the time. | ||
| Oh yeah, I've seen it around a lot, but you know... | ||
| But you don't have anybody that flags that for you. | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| I think that there's an algorithm on YouTube that catches it. | ||
| Because, you know, my distribution goes through this distribution company. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think they have someone on their team who does, like, you know, like, I don't know how they know it, but there's definitely some kind of algorithm, you know, like you said, when you put it in, it hears that Everlast song, you know. | ||
| And I think there's someone that does flag it for me, but, again, I don't know, I think we're finding out, too, I don't know where the fuck my money's going, you know. | ||
| You should do some sort of an online video series, like where you're giving people access to you getting on the tour bus, traveling, going to different places. | ||
| Because you know you're doing this podcast now. | ||
| I think that would sort of complement that really well. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be good, too. | ||
| Hopefully the thing Rick was shooting, that'll... | ||
| If that's around enough, we'll show enough behind this, you know, that'd be a bigger version of something like that. | ||
| Yeah, no, definitely. | ||
| And yeah, if you start doing it from Showtime and then take it to YouTube or wherever and start streaming it on the road, I think that's a great idea for you. | ||
| Yeah, it's been cool, but it's weird, too, because you get back into the whole, like, you know... | ||
| I'm giving my music... | ||
| The TV thing is going to be for myself, so how much do I sell myself the music? | ||
| Do I try to rip them off on the fucking price of the music? | ||
| No, because I want the thing to... | ||
| It's in very weird areas where people try to talk you out. | ||
| It's just like, oh, just give me the fucking music. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if you do a stand-up special, I'm sure there's... | ||
| They've had negotiations. | ||
| I'm not speaking for you, but there's probably times where they're just like, listen, this special's gonna help you, so take fucking less money here, do that. | ||
| It's almost like they're doing you a favor, kind of, which I don't like. | ||
| They can do stuff like that. | ||
| They can say, you know... | ||
| If they're right, they're right. | ||
| If they're not, they're not. | ||
| I mean, if you're Chris Rock, they're not right. | ||
| They have to pay Chris Rock. | ||
| It's good for them more than it's good for him. | ||
| Well, I'm saying, have you ever had any issues with telling... | ||
| Well, I guess your last couple have been Netflix, right? | ||
| My last one was Netflix. | ||
| My one before that was Comedy Central. | ||
| And you want them to market it more? | ||
| Have you ever had issues and they're just like, you know... | ||
| No, fortunately, no. | ||
| Comedy Central is great. | ||
| Netflix is great. | ||
| I was going to say, the other thing, too, is you've got a bigger marketing outlet than any of them, so fuck it. | ||
| Now I do, yeah. | ||
| And Netflix doesn't really market. | ||
| They put up a few billboards and just leave it alone. | ||
| They let people word of mouth. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| If someone puts out a comedy special, like Ari Shafir's comedy special, which is coming out July 18th. | ||
| He was just on here, right? | ||
| Yeah, it was yesterday. | ||
| If he puts something out... | ||
| Comedy fans are just gonna get the word out. | ||
| Word of mouth, you gotta go check it out, you gotta listen to it. | ||
| I mean, I found out about a lot of people's specials. | ||
| That was the main thing with my records, which I really loved, was that it was old school. | ||
| It was literally word of mouth. | ||
| It wasn't like, I mean, there wasn't memes until recently. | ||
| It wasn't memes or fucking... | ||
| YouTube ads and all that shit. | ||
| It was just, you gotta hear this shit. | ||
| That's how I found out about it. | ||
| I found out about it from people sending it to me. | ||
| I already knew you were doing something, but then people just started sending me shit. | ||
| Just randomly, they didn't even know I knew you. | ||
| Well, I think that it was... | ||
| Yeah, I think what happened is just, you know, it's like... | ||
| They never heard country music used with this line. | ||
| It's like, dude, you gotta hear this motherfucker. | ||
| He's talking, you know, like hip-hop guys in fucking country, and it's fucking crazy, you know. | ||
| Nowadays, you just gotta be so loud, I guess, is maybe what it is. | ||
| Well, it's hard to believe that you were the first guy that figured out sort of the Andrew Dice Clay approach to stand-up comedy. | ||
| To country music, you mean? | ||
| Did I say comedy? | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| To country music. | ||
| A comedy, sort of shock comedy entrance into country music. | ||
| Like I say, when people tell me that, I'm just like, all I did was not censor myself. | ||
| And have fun. | ||
| The new album, I think, you can hear us having even more fun than the last one. | ||
| The last one I felt, now it feels a little stiff, almost, like I was trying to figure out. | ||
| This one, you can hear us having a fucking blast. | ||
| It was like, because country music is so serious and the people are so serious, it's just like, you know, just fucking let loose and have some fucking fun. | ||
| Yeah, it's gotta be so bizarre to see a room full of guys singing along to some of your lines. | ||
| Then I sucked his dick and I kicked his ass. | ||
| Suck a dick. | ||
| Yeah, well, we got a new song called Puss in Boots and one of the lines is a line about, you know, Her tongue knows where my butthole's at is in the chorus. | ||
| And I'm seeing watching people scream that out. | ||
| It's like, I was dicking around, man. | ||
| Like, don't do that. | ||
| I want a girl in a cowboy hat. | ||
| Her tongue knows where my butthole's at. | ||
| That's a weird thing to hear back at you, just as loud. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, it's weird when you were thinking, like, should I even put this in the song? | ||
| Well, it's weird. | ||
| It's just like, this is a crazy thought. | ||
| What if I just go with it instead of trying to hold myself back, which is all the best shit, you know? | ||
| But obviously, the impact has been fucking tremendous. | ||
| I mean, the results are amazing. | ||
| I mean, just the idea that we're playing the Troubadour tonight and it sold out a month ago is fucking crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're selling out way in advance. | ||
| And that's a big place. | ||
| Well, the Troubadour is like a famous, you know... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, a lot of horrible fucking music got their start there, you know? | ||
| And just for me to go up there and sing about puss in boots, you know, is like... | ||
| To conquest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've conquered. | ||
| Yeah, fuck you, you know, I'll do it. | ||
| Yeah, he pads on a flag. | ||
| I'll do this shit the way I fucking want to do it. | ||
| Fuck you guys. | ||
| Well, it's another era. | ||
| It's another representation of our era. | ||
| That this world is not what it used to be. | ||
| We're in a different place. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Well, that's why I kept bringing it back to this, which is just like, you can make whatever you fucking want, you don't have to censor yourself. | ||
| Find the people who, you know, find the Rogans, whoever in your world that, you know, can get the word out bigger, you know. | ||
| There's ways to make it, ways to distribute it, and ways to promote it without fucking sucking some network's dick, you know. | ||
| And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, this shit's available right now. | ||
| Go get you some. | ||
| Old Wheeler. | ||
| Wheeler Walker Tour. | ||
| The tour is available. | ||
| You can check it out on Instagram. | ||
| He's got a full picture of all the tour. | ||
| 7-12 starts out in Atlanta, Georgia. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Charlotte, North Carolina. | ||
| Virginia Beach. | ||
| He's traveling. | ||
| Wheeler Walker Jr., ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Thanks as always, guys. | ||
| I love it here. | ||
| My pleasure, brother. | ||
| Always good talking to you. | ||
| We'll be back in just a few moments with Megan Phelps from the Westboro Baptist Church. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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