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June 7, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #972 - Ari Shaffir
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ari shaffir
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joe rogan
5, 4, 3, 2, 1, motherfucking world traveler Ari Shafir.
unidentified
That's such a nice way to start.
joe rogan
Dude, you did one of the most puzzling and fascinating and admirable things any of my friends has ever done.
You checked out!
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You checked out for four months.
You really checked out.
You got rid of your phone.
You didn't answer any emails.
You're like, I'm going to disappear for four months.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You didn't even give a time frame.
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
You just said, I'm just going to go do this.
ari shaffir
I said like one to three-ish.
joe rogan
I don't know.
ari shaffir
Maybe two.
I don't know.
Just we'll see.
joe rogan
Did you get the inspiration from the Henry Rollins podcast?
ari shaffir
No, I was already going to do it.
Wow.
Yeah, but he said, like, come see me in December.
I think he was having shows at Largo.
And I was like, oh, I'm already going to be.
I think I'll be gone by then.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
I was waiting until I finished off the work I had to do.
Do my special.
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
You know, finish up a season of that show.
So I'm not like just leaving, I'm not chapelling anybody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You know?
joe rogan
Right.
Chapelling anybody.
unidentified
It's a verb.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, that Rollins podcast you did was one of my all-time favorite ones of yours.
ari shaffir
It's great.
It inspired me while I was out there, though.
joe rogan
Your podcast is great.
ari shaffir
Thanks, buddy.
joe rogan
It's really good.
It's really good.
ari shaffir
You like the format?
It's fucking great.
joe rogan
It's great.
I love your intros.
You know, you're fucking cooking onions and just talking.
It's so raw.
It's a really good podcast, man.
You've done an amazing job with it.
unidentified
Thanks.
joe rogan
I like your music selection when you bring in the guests.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No, you do a great job with it.
Like, whenever the guest comes up, I was like, okay, what kind of fucking song is he going to play?
ari shaffir
Yeah, Ingram said it once.
I did one with him about having diabetes.
And he was like, did you pour some sugar on me at the beginning of my podcast about diabetes?
I was like, yeah, man.
unidentified
You gotta have something like that goes.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Rick Ingram is one of the most underrated guys out there.
I've seen him kill at the Comedy Store lately.
ari shaffir
He kills hard enough where people have always said, can you not put me on after him?
unidentified
Pussies.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's one of those guys.
joe rogan
He's a funny dude.
Very funny dude.
Good guy, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that Rollins thing, I did use some of that while I was out there.
When people say like, what are you doing out here?
I tried a few times, I'm here to meet you.
And it just gets a conversation going.
Because they want to know.
I think with him it was more his celebrity, but it's just like, you're white, what are you doing here?
joe rogan
Right.
What are you doing here?
ari shaffir
In some small town in Nowheresville.
joe rogan
Did you feel threatened anywhere?
ari shaffir
Any sort of threatened...
This is a good question.
Any sort of threatening I felt was just me...
It wasn't real.
It was me looking at people that don't look like me and going, oh, I'm scared.
There are others.
And then you find out Myanmar is 90-something percent Buddhist.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's a massive, massive part of their culture.
joe rogan
Is that where you went first?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why'd you pick that place?
ari shaffir
Best weather.
joe rogan
Oh.
ari shaffir
I got my ticket the day before, so I just didn't want to go somewhere where it's going to be raining.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
So Myanmar had 10 days to clear, and I was like, I'm headed to Myanmar, I guess.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It was great, though.
joe rogan
So what do you do?
How do you set this up?
unidentified
Do you set up- I picked a region.
joe rogan
A region.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It caked out between South America and Southeast Asia.
joe rogan
You just decided, like, that looks like a good time of the year to be there.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
I would love to go to Europe, fucking backpack around Europe.
joe rogan
But not in January.
ari shaffir
Not in January or February.
Nah, it's not going to be enjoyable.
joe rogan
Whenever I think of Europe, I mean, even though I've been to Europe and I love it, I think of World War II movies.
ari shaffir
Yeah, them having, like, the bunkers.
joe rogan
I just think of people freezing.
Yeah.
Eating food out of cans, hearing bombs go off in the background.
ari shaffir
Some dust coming in from the ceiling.
joe rogan
I was thinking the other day when I was looking at all this crazy shit that's been going on in England, these terrorist attacks, and what happened in France, and I was just thinking how long that section of the world has been in turmoil.
ari shaffir
Always fighting?
joe rogan
Always fighting.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then I was thinking, like, America's one of the only places where very little shit has gone down.
Like, little things have gone down.
They were obviously big at the time.
Like, Pearl Harbor was huge at the time.
ari shaffir
But very few.
joe rogan
And then 9-11.
And other than that, it's like, whoa, boy.
What else?
And then you look at Europe like, holy shit, dude, there's a part of France that's the size of Paris that you can't go into.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because there's so many bombs there.
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
There's so much munitions from the World Wars.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
So bad that they have like an area the size of What, just mines and stuff?
Just musicians.
Just fucking missiles and shit.
Things that were flying there that landed.
Things that blew off.
All sorts of chemical waste.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, dude, it's toxic.
See if you can pull that up.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
And you can't go?
joe rogan
I feel like it's outside of Normandy.
I forget where it is.
But there's a section of France that is literally the size of Paris that people can't go into for like 100,000 years.
Oh.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Just because of all this, like, chemical waste?
joe rogan
Just because of all the waste from the bombs and all the different fucking missiles and rockets and guns and shit.
Dude, it's crazy.
unidentified
It's crazy.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
And obviously, I don't have the facts in front of me until Jamie pulls it up, my shitty memory.
But I know that this is a real place.
And I know that there's...
ari shaffir
Just leftover, like, wings of planes?
joe rogan
I think it's mostly, like, things they shot at each other.
ari shaffir
Unexploded?
joe rogan
Some of them unexploded, some of them exploded, like, the waste from them.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, here it is.
jamie vernon
This is a map of the space.
See those things?
joe rogan
Look at all these fucking bombs that didn't go off.
ari shaffir
On the cobblestone streets.
joe rogan
Look at those things, dude.
These are all bombs that didn't go off.
ari shaffir
But that guy's there.
joe rogan
Yeah, well that guy knows what he's doing.
ari shaffir
He's just touching it.
unidentified
He's touching it.
They pulled that one out.
ari shaffir
He's got no mask on.
joe rogan
Imagine if it went off right next to you.
ari shaffir
Wait, the water area is finally contained.
Water area.
joe rogan
It says, found to contain certain toxic levels of arsenic that were 300 times above the tolerated amount and abnormally high.
Lead levels were recorded in some animals, particularly in the livers of hunted wild boars.
ari shaffir
Oh, so they buried it all.
joe rogan
I think it's just there, man.
I think they just have this area.
I don't think they buried it.
ari shaffir
It looks like they put it under mounds of dirt.
joe rogan
Is that what's going on?
ari shaffir
And then shit grew.
joe rogan
Does it say that?
ari shaffir
No, but those mounds look like that.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Let's see what- get up to it.
unidentified
Whoa, cool.
ari shaffir
Freaky.
joe rogan
A no-go zone of France.
Forbidden no man's land.
Poisoned by war.
Ooh, dude.
I mean, look at that guy with the gas mask on.
unidentified
That's the artist for admission, I think.
joe rogan
That is awesome.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it is.
Up to his knees in water.
joe rogan
Why did I think that was real?
It doesn't even look a little real.
unidentified
It's so clearly a...
ari shaffir
It's not even like...
It's like chalk painted.
unidentified
It's a map!
ari shaffir
It's not even like...
joe rogan
It is a dope picture, but I was reading and looking at the photo, and I was like, oh, is that guy wearing a gas mask?
Oh, that's not a real picture!
Dude, I've seen some tattoos recently on people on Instagram.
That's one of the best things that Instagram's for.
ari shaffir
Tats?
joe rogan
Tattoo artists.
There's some people that have done these super realistic photograph tattoos that are just flat out fucking freaky.
They can do flat out freaky shit now.
ari shaffir
Do you see 3D tattoos?
joe rogan
I've seen those.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Incredible.
ari shaffir
Golly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude.
Tattoo artists, like all artists, I guess, are just because of the internet.
Evolving.
Yeah, and then they're taking things to another level, because they're seeing the level of all these other people, and like, a guy in Germany can compare himself with a guy in Japan, and a guy in America.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Goddamn.
ari shaffir
It looks like his skin is falling off.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of really good tattoo artists out there right now.
Really good.
ari shaffir
Some hot chicks getting them too.
joe rogan
Yeah, like all over the place.
ari shaffir
Jesus.
joe rogan
And guys love that.
ari shaffir
I'm one of those guys.
joe rogan
You know why?
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
Because you know she's dangerous.
That's a reckless gal.
ari shaffir
Maybe.
unidentified
Both of those girls.
joe rogan
She's got Johnny Depp tattooed on her foot.
You know?
unidentified
That girl's crazy.
Right?
joe rogan
Like, girls with, like, love and hate on their hands, like, okay, here we go.
unidentified
yeah exactly it's like you're on a roller coaster ride it's going click click click click click click click click click click you're at the apex Yeah, you can never just have a nice quiet dinner with a girl like that.
ari shaffir
It's gotta be on every night.
Something's thrown at your head.
joe rogan
A girl has Los Angeles tattooed across her stomach.
You're like, whoa.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and like that gothic...
Like a gang sign.
unidentified
What's behind your ear?
joe rogan
Face tattoos is where you're really making a commitment.
That's a weird one, right?
It's like, I'm willing to...
Some people get...
I'm a little crazy.
ari shaffir
With Khalifa types?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, how about Gucci Mane?
Got a fucking ice cream cone tattooed on his face and it says, Burr.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
Dude, he got an ice cream cone tattooed on his face.
And it says burr.
unidentified
B-R-R-R. Yeah, like burr, this is cold.
joe rogan
I'm not kidding!
ari shaffir
He's not like an ice cream guy, though.
joe rogan
I like his music, though.
ari shaffir
But it's not all about ice cream, is it?
unidentified
Look at that, look.
ari shaffir
Goddamn!
Wow!
unidentified
It says burr.
Burr.
ari shaffir
And then the meme spelled burr wrong.
joe rogan
There's lightning bolts off the ice cream cone.
ari shaffir
I feel like that was put in later.
joe rogan
No, I think that was at the same time.
ari shaffir
Ice cream and lightning?
joe rogan
Yeah, ice cream and lightning.
That's real.
That's his tattoo.
ari shaffir
Nothing says getting like three scoops of ice cream.
Wow, good for him.
It's gonna be hard for him to find a job, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't have a job.
He's a rapper.
He doesn't need a job.
ari shaffir
I mean...
joe rogan
Okay, I don't want to see...
Inside of the lip one.
The inside of the lip one is weird.
unidentified
It's weird, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's out of the way.
joe rogan
I'm a sneaky freak.
I'm hiding my freakiness inside my face.
ari shaffir
There's no virgins with tattoos.
joe rogan
Well, I'm sure there must be.
ari shaffir
Maybe.
joe rogan
I'm sure there must be.
ari shaffir
But not really, though.
joe rogan
That's not even unusual.
What about asexual people?
Do you believe in asexual people?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I've met a couple.
joe rogan
Some people just don't want...
Don't touch me.
Thanks.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm not into that sort of thing.
joe rogan
Why is that so horrible?
ari shaffir
I'm onto stamps.
joe rogan
I mean, it's not like they just are antisocial.
They just don't want to fuck you.
ari shaffir
They just have no interest in it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So what about them?
What if they get tattoos?
ari shaffir
I don't think it ever happens.
joe rogan
I stand by it.
I like how you commit to an opinion.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
It doesn't matter if I didn't research it.
joe rogan
You're not even totally sure.
ari shaffir
Oh, I'm 100% sure, man.
I'm doubling down.
joe rogan
Interesting.
I like how you do that.
You raise your voice.
You even extended your head.
There's something about movement.
Have you seen this fucking video?
I don't know if you know what's going on in Evergreen College.
Do you know where Evergreen College is?
Evergreen State College?
ari shaffir
It's in the north?
joe rogan
It's in Pacific Northwest.
And there's this crazy shutdown.
I had this professor on the podcast because they...
The kids had asked him to not show up at school.
And no white people show up at school.
ari shaffir
Or no whites day.
joe rogan
Because, yeah, they wanted a day where whites didn't.
And he's like, that is the opposite of inclusiveness.
Like, this is not what we're supposed to be doing.
So they kick him out, right?
They kicked him out.
ari shaffir
Instead of saying, no, how about everybody day?
joe rogan
Well, this is what they did.
They didn't really kick him out.
What they did is they protested, they yelled and screamed, and he felt unsafe, and he left the college, and then the college got shut down due to threats.
ari shaffir
Why did it get shut down?
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Threats, yeah.
What do you mean threats?
They even played the threats on the air.
ari shaffir
What do you mean threats?
He was already gone.
joe rogan
No, other people called in.
ari shaffir
To threaten the college?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Oh, because...
joe rogan
Like right-wing people.
ari shaffir
Oh, right, right, right.
joe rogan
They called them a bunch of commies.
They left a voicemail saying I'm gonna come down with my.45 Magnum.
ari shaffir
That's too far.
joe rogan
Yeah.
.44 Magnum?
Maybe.44.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's alright then.
unidentified
That's okay.
joe rogan
He specified the round, which I thought was hilarious.
ari shaffir
It's like the exact type of gun I have.
joe rogan
Okay, well, if you come with a shotgun, I know it's just a game.
But anyway, the college professor got in trouble talking to these kids.
They told him to put his hands away because he was gesturing with their hands.
They were yelling out that it's a microaggression.
And they got him to put his hands down.
And then they started laughing at him.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
Dude.
ari shaffir
They started laughing like, ha ha, we made you put your hands away.
joe rogan
They were like, put your hands down.
See if you can find it, Jamie.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Those microaggressions.
I'm trying to figure.
Maybe Brett Weinstein had it queued up on his Twitter page.
He's the professor.
ari shaffir
That word, by the way, is dead on.
It's just the connotative meaning now has become something super negative.
joe rogan
Microaggressions.
ari shaffir
But it's a microaggression.
Not even a small aggression.
Micro.
It's like the smallest possible thing you can think of in terms of aggression.
You're like, okay, sure, whatever.
joe rogan
But if you watch the video, this guy's just moving his hands.
He's just talking like this.
And they're like, put your hands down.
Your hands are aggressive.
And then they laugh at him when he complies.
They openly mocked him and laughed at him.
ari shaffir
Like, we're fooling with you.
We didn't really believe that microaggression stuff.
We turned you into a cuck.
joe rogan
They're little kids.
These are little kids.
When you talk to people who understand how brains develop, one of the big things that they always say is the frontal lobe, the frontal cortex doesn't really develop until you're like 25. It's not fully developed.
ari shaffir
I was in college.
I understand.
We're not that smart.
We learned a few things.
We don't know how to put it into play yet.
And so you just say it.
By the way, that's my theory on why people send their kids away to college, is because they're fucking embarrassing, and they don't want them anywhere near them while they're trying to grow into real people.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're learning stuff, but they're like, we know everything!
joe rogan
Do you really think that's it?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, a little bit.
Also, they say for the experience of going away, but no, it's like, hey, fucking be an awful developing thing away from me.
Go embarrass someone in Wisconsin.
joe rogan
Interesting.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I hear this NYU girls talking all the time.
I stand behind them and like listen.
Oh, yeah, you know other conversations girls and boys, you know Mostly girls you creep.
I mean, you know, whatever you creeping sort of sure Super into that but like But yeah, they're just dumb they're dumb when you listen to them and you're like you're just well-read and dumb and Well, there's a lot of people that, I mean, are 18 years old and you can have a very intelligent conversation with them.
Yeah, sure, some.
joe rogan
Yeah, absolutely.
And there's a lot of people who are 18 who are basically 12. They're basically like a grown-up baby.
It's not their fault.
It's no one's fault, you know?
It just takes some people longer.
To kind of get how to, you know, sort of factor all the aspects of life together and make it some sort of a manageable plan for yourself and live your life.
But the idea of those kids being able to run that principle and run the president of that school like that and just tell them to put his hands down and laugh at him.
Dude, they laughed at him.
ari shaffir
I've heard a few smart people going about Trump and people like small hands, you know, and the left will attack that.
It's like, oh, you're a small dick.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And I saw one, I think, I forget who, a comedian I used to do open mics with.
I think he's a writer now.
I forget who it was, but...
She was like, don't say that.
Don't take their tactics.
Don't say looks are an important thing here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's not what we believe in.
So stop saying that.
joe rogan
Not only that, you're going to shame the shit out of all those guys that are out there that actually have small dicks.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
Her point was like, just because you know that'll affect them, you're doing the same thing the right does.
Don't do that.
joe rogan
Isn't that amazing, though, that that is what we decide to do as a collective group of humans, to find the thing that you can mock about him physically?
Like, his dick is little.
He's got small hands.
Look at your small hands.
And then there's people in the audience that actually have small hands.
They're like, fuck!
Because Trump's a big giant guy.
ari shaffir
Is he really tall?
joe rogan
I think he's like 6'2".
He's probably like your height.
ari shaffir
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
He's a big guy.
He's a big imposing guy.
That was one of the speculations about Jim Comey.
What?
James Comey that Trump didn't like him because he was six foot eight.
Oh, cuz he's huge James Comey's like this giant basketball player like dude you really yeah, and he just towered over everybody including Trump Trump's like get rid of that fucking guy I'm sure it was more complicated than that.
ari shaffir
It's more because he's investigating them.
joe rogan
But that's more of shaming.
People love to do that.
Oh, you tiny little man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, both sides love doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird because you're attacking something that the person can't change at all.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what do you care if he has small...
Look how big Comey is.
Comey's a giant.
ari shaffir
Wow.
unidentified
He's huge.
joe rogan
He's a super person.
Look at the size of him.
ari shaffir
God, he dwarfs everybody.
joe rogan
Oh my God, he's huge.
ari shaffir
He's an enormous guy.
joe rogan
You know, if I was Donald Trump and I was in this sort of a dispute with a guy like that, he's saying, look how big you grew!
I would worry about Comey running for president.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Yeah, I watch House of Cards, son.
I know how this game is played.
The next move is Comey runs for president.
A bunch of people, they get in a room with him, there's these bankers, and there's this one dude who's an internationally successful businessman, but he keeps like a humble lifestyle and a normal house, and he likes to bird hunt.
ari shaffir
Hey, everybody watching at home.
Right here is when Joe Rogan's explaining to me how it works in politics.
Now back to the actual show.
joe rogan
Yeah, they do a little too much of that sometimes.
unidentified
Like, what?
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Face the camera.
They get away with it sometimes.
But you know what I want?
Here's what I want.
I want Claire Barnes to do those every now and then.
ari shaffir
Who's Claire Barnes?
joe rogan
Claire Underwood started the new season?
Yeah.
ari shaffir
His wife?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want his wife to do it.
Underwood.
ari shaffir
Anthony Hopkins?
joe rogan
No.
Didn't I say Underwood the second time?
jamie vernon
Barnes.
joe rogan
But I said the second time I said Underwood.
Who the hell's Claire Barnes?
ari shaffir
The reporter?
jamie vernon
Is that the girl's name in Homeland?
joe rogan
I've run out of space in my head for names.
I don't have any names.
They're jumbling together.
ari shaffir
Maybe it is in Homeland.
joe rogan
They're all jumbling together.
ari shaffir
No, Claire Danes.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Zoe Barnes.
That's who it is.
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Claire Underwood.
I want to hear what she says.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
She's not allowed.
joe rogan
Why doesn't she look at the camera?
She's mysterious.
ari shaffir
They have that.
It's the director's cut.
They show on the Wii network.
joe rogan
On the Wii network.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's only the women's points of view.
joe rogan
They have to take your chromosomes before they let you watch it.
You hold on to your remote and test to make sure you're double X. No Y. No Y! The We Network.
ari shaffir
Does anybody watch that anymore?
joe rogan
Chicks.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I guess so.
joe rogan
Same people like Hallmark.
ari shaffir
Nobody really watches either of those, though, right?
Nobody really watches.
Somebody watches, but nobody really.
joe rogan
Dude, go to Nebraska.
ari shaffir
But, like, they watch it more than, like, NBC. They DVR the shit out of it.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
ari shaffir
David Taylor once said he was trying to write, they were buying dumb scripts for a Hallmark channel, and he said he researched a bunch of them, and he goes, pretty much every one of the movies at work is about a pet, a family reunion, or a holiday.
So he had a Lost My Dog at Christmastime movie that he wrote to try to get it on there.
He's like, I'll fill all this stuff.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that billboard across the street from the store was always the Hallmark Channel?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Forever!
ari shaffir
Dude, one of my favorite comments you ever made.
Because it was this, like, cop show, where there was a woman in the front, a woman behind her, kind of like Charlie's Angels-ish, little Tuckin' Tough guns, and then, like, a dude way, way in the back, maybe three women, one guy, but they're, like, hard-nosed detectives.
And you're like, Hallmark Channel is sci-fi for women.
unidentified
Ha!
ari shaffir
In what world does this exist?
This is...
unidentified
I forgot I said that, but it's so true.
joe rogan
I was doing that on stage for a while.
Yeah, now that I remember it, I was doing it, I was saying that on stage because it was right there, and I could point to it, and I'd say, there is a fucking billboard across the street, and I need you to go out there and look at it.
I'll tell people, after the show, look at it, this joke's gonna be better after the show.
ari shaffir
It really was.
Like, see what's possible?
And you're like, that is not possible.
joe rogan
The guy would be like, give me the fucking gun.
Where is he?
That guy's like hanging back there like he's waiting for these chicks to save him.
What the fuck are you watching?
ari shaffir
Me and Jay went on a rabbit hunt over at his place of looking for videos of like women cops getting beat up.
joe rogan
Oh god, they're awful.
ari shaffir
It's really bad.
It's like once a guy like grabs you it's like fuck there's a huge power difference here.
joe rogan
So disturbing.
There's one I'll never forget this one because the guy's child It was his child, I think, or his girlfriend?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I forget who it was.
I think it was his kid, was screaming at him to stop, stop, to stop, and he was beating the shit out of this cop.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah, he got out of the car with her, and it was a woman, and she was really little, and she was pulling him over, and he got out of the car, and I don't remember The exact chain of events, but I remember he was punching the fuck out of her.
And he KO'd her and he on the ground and he smashed her in the face a bunch of times.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah, and his kid was screaming.
I'm pretty sure it was his kid.
Screaming to stop.
Oh, it was so scary.
But it was like, this is the reality of being a cop.
This is why...
It's not sexist to think that it's a scary thing to have a 130-pound woman on her own out there driving around in a cop car with a gun trying to pull over.
Six foot four.
The guy was a stacked-looking black dude.
Like, he looked like a big guy.
And once he got a hold of her and started punching her, holy shit, dude.
It was awful.
It was awful.
He beat the shit out of her and he did it super easy.
And you realize like once you got it on video, yeah, you want to show a little bit?
Show it to us.
It's awful, man.
So there's this big dude, right?
He gets out of the car, and I think it's his- look at that, he just punches her in the face and- DOOM! He's in front of his daughter.
Oh, that's what it was, that's right.
ari shaffir
Oh man, he keeps wailing on her!
joe rogan
Oh dude, he beat the fuck out of her while she's out cold.
She's out cold, and he takes her gun, he takes everything, and the daughter's freaking out.
Dude, it is hard to watch.
It's hard to watch.
ari shaffir
Get back in the car.
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
There's a bunch of them, man.
It's such a dangerous job.
ari shaffir
He punched the shit out of her like 10 times.
joe rogan
It's such a dangerous job.
It's such a dangerous job.
And to say that it's too dangerous for women, who's to say?
I don't know.
ari shaffir
What if that woman quit after that or she kept working?
You think she kept working?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think she might have had brain damage after that.
That's horrific.
It's a big dude, and I bet she was totally...
ari shaffir
He was swinging full.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I mean, he was really...
joe rogan
And I bet she was totally defenseless after the first punch.
So it was just clean, clean punches right to the face.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
I mean, the damage that a big guy like that can do to just a regular female face.
ari shaffir
Oh, what's that going to do to his daughter, too?
She's going to grow up.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
It's terrifying.
To be around that kind of violence when you're that little.
So that's what it was.
I think the video showed the kid in the car.
ari shaffir
Right out of the car.
Shit memory.
joe rogan
It was terrible.
But I mean, that's probably one of a hundred of those things that have happened.
ari shaffir
By the way, in terms of if I felt unsafe when I was traveling, that shit's here.
joe rogan
Sure.
You're right.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I was nowhere as unsafe as like Chicago.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I always say about Mexico.
Like, people are like, do you ever go to Mexico?
I'm like, Mexico is, like, mostly nice.
ari shaffir
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Nice people.
They're really nice people.
Like, Mexico's not the problem.
The problem is parts of Mexico.
ari shaffir
Border towns, too, in general.
joe rogan
Some people, yeah.
But it's also, like, that's the problem, like you said, with Detroit.
It's a problem with Chicago.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a problem with a lot of places.
There's spots where it's fucking dangerous.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Even most of Chicago's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, Chicago's great.
ari shaffir
550 murders last year, but see how many people weren't murdered.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a great outlook.
You're a glass-half-full kind of guy.
ari shaffir
Millions of non-murdered people roaming around Chicago, really enjoying their freedoms.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, if it affects you or someone that you love, it's terrible.
For sure.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, so in all this traveling, did you come out of this with anything?
ari shaffir
You know, a few things.
For sure.
joe rogan
Because you seemed like...
Tell you from the outside.
Yeah, you seemed like almost like you Had a different person you also seemed I Don't know man.
It was nice to see you when I first saw you when you came back.
Yeah, but you seemed like a little different he seemed like you I don't know you've seen Another level of stuff.
You've got another level of perspective from this travel thing that like added to your vision of the world, your overall world view.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
A lot of time to think also as you're seeing stuff.
You know, certainly as everyone would see out there like poverty levels where you're like, oh, I'm doing fine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You know, but not even that.
It's more specific.
It's just like...
I don't know, friendly people and like, yeah, just different versions of it.
Plus travelers.
And plus really getting to a place where you're like, don't need to do anything.
You know, after a month of that, it's like, okay, you just settle into this.
Like, I don't know, what's today going to bring?
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
You know, you wake up and you're just like, I heard there's this cool temple there, we'll go check that out.
Maybe get on motorbikes and go somewhere.
I heard there's a cool...
You just talk to other travelers and be like, there's a canyon up there, it's really neat.
Go check that out while you're here.
And so you just do, and at some point you're like...
You know how when you haven't gotten enough sleep for like a few days in a row, you've got four hours, four hours, four hours, and you sleep like 11 hours, and you're like, I am completely caught up.
So like not having any responsibility.
The stress level goes down, down, and then it's just like waiting in that zero responsibility life for like three months in that level, I guess.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
You know, after the first couple weeks, and it's just like, I don't have anything to do.
Just like, oh, and just like fucking relax, man.
I would leave a city when it felt like the right time to leave a city.
You know, it wasn't even like a regular vacation where you're like, come on, we gotta do this, then move.
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
We got reservations somewhere.
Yeah, it was just like relax and then I could just think about things my art form in general people in my life You know what I want and don't want I'd have like moments of just like Yeah, take a 10-hour bus.
There's no Wi-Fi You know, you're just like thinking for a while Yeah tons of moments like that.
unidentified
How did you know when to end it?
ari shaffir
So I was gonna come back for this show, but then I remembered my manager, my friend Eric, they wanted to do a show at Third Man Records in Nashville for the Wild West Comedy Festival, and I forgot about that, because people ask me, like, when do you have to go back?
Like, travelers I meet, and I was like, I'm open.
Dude, there were so many people that were just traveling open.
Wow.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's really common?
ari shaffir
I mean, three months is like a norm.
You have some people six months or a year.
I met an Italian girl who was going on her five and a half, fifth and a half years just traveling.
joe rogan
Five and a half years just traveling?
ari shaffir
Mm-hmm.
She'd find jobs every once in a while.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and it just goes where she wants.
joe rogan
It's very appealing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Very fascinating, right?
That's like, nobody writes books about a guy who stays in his town that he grew up in.
ari shaffir
I know.
joe rogan
The book is about the crazy traveler person who goes all over the world in a backpack.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but there's three-month people all over America doing that.
joe rogan
I know there's a lot of tent people.
There's a lot of people that, like, they'll get, like, a truck.
You know, like some sort of a SUV thing and they drive it around to campgrounds and they camp and they use the showers at the campgrounds and then they do stuff enough for money so that they have gas and they keep traveling around and hope their car doesn't break down.
ari shaffir
A lot of jobs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, this girl picked oranges in Sydney for like two months.
joe rogan
I had this dude on, Chris Cage.
He walked the Appalachian Trail.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's Georgia all the way to Maine.
ari shaffir
And would he kill animals and stuff?
unidentified
No, no, no.
ari shaffir
I don't know.
How do you survive?
joe rogan
You would never make it.
You would never make it.
ari shaffir
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Well, you'd never make it if you were just trying to kill animals all the way.
You'd never make it.
ari shaffir
So how do you eat?
joe rogan
You'd have to be an elite hunter, and you still might not ever make it.
Because if you're carrying that food around, it's going to go bad.
You're walking through Georgia in the summer.
ari shaffir
No, I mean, you know, critters.
joe rogan
You're not going to get enough.
ari shaffir
Just cook it that night.
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll starve.
It's way harder to kill an animal than people think it is.
ari shaffir
In a movie, that's what they do.
It's like, let's camp, get some dinner.
joe rogan
Dude, it's way harder.
It's way harder.
ari shaffir
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Unless you're walking around with several high-powered rifles and scopes and you're setting up, you know where the animals are, they hear you coming, you're walking.
You're not going to be able to walk all the way to Maine.
ari shaffir
Oh man, maybe that's you, but an experienced hunter like me, I understand.
You have to get in their heads, man.
joe rogan
They go to restaurants.
They buy food.
They stay in hostels.
They have these little camping spots where they have covered shelters.
And people share them.
ari shaffir
Really?
Yeah, there's a lot of that too.
Where it's just like, forget about what you need in terms of hotels.
That's all out.
You need a bed.
That's all you need.
joe rogan
Some people, they carry it on their back.
There's a thing called a bivy sack.
You know what a bivy sack is?
A bivy sack is either a bivy sack or a bivy tent.
They're essentially a combination sleeping bag tent.
ari shaffir
Oh, cool.
joe rogan
And it's super light.
Pull up a picture of a bivy tent.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's one of the reasons I didn't go to South America is because I was like, there's going to be more camping, it seems like, up and down the coast and stuff, and less cities.
And I'm just like, I don't know if I can camp alone for that long.
joe rogan
You might freak out.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It'd be hard to get a good night's sleep around a bunch of weirdos and then speak their language.
This is what they look like.
ari shaffir
Oh, neat.
joe rogan
So you keep that thing.
They wrap it up, put it on their back.
It's pretty light.
You can carry that with you.
ari shaffir
Oh, it just keeps the fucking rain off you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's basically like just this tiny-ass little tent And like if you were a minimalist hiker, like if you're some guy who's trying to walk 50 miles or something crazy like these guys, they try to carry as light of stuff as they can.
They try to go as minimal as they can.
And that's one way that they do that.
And a lot of times they'll use like a little air mattress like that dude has.
ari shaffir
Oh wow, blow it up.
Doesn't take up any space.
joe rogan
Yeah, just gotta hope it doesn't pop.
Otherwise you're sleeping on rocks.
It's hard, but...
ari shaffir
That's what everybody did too, traveling for this backpack.
You just gotta make it work.
Space was like a...
That's another thing you learn too.
It's like, I don't need much stuff.
You go down to like, you know, just a backpack full if that's all your belongings.
If you buy anything, you gotta throw something out.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Like, there's a real movement right now towards minimalism.
Or where people are trying to pare their life down as much as possible.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think people don't want to get involved with, like, banks and fucking having to, like, mortgage themselves and their lifestyle just for the sake of, like, having things.
joe rogan
Yep.
ari shaffir
And so they get into, like, stuff like camping and hiking.
joe rogan
Well, it's also you got to think like, what do you really appreciate?
What's important to you?
Like, what's really important to you?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you don't have forever, right?
So what is important to you?
Because you only have 24 hours in a day.
So what's important to you?
Find out what the fuck that is and do more of that.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And try to figure out, like, how to make enough money so that you're not starving.
That you're doing well, but don't just chase that.
Chase what you're trying to do.
The point system attached to it, the monetary point system, it can get you all fucked up because it'll get you working like 12 hours a day, 13 hours a day.
ari shaffir
To get what?
joe rogan
To get more stuff.
To get better stuff, to get more prestigious stuff, to get stuff that, you know, all your other stuff having friends are really jealous of your stuff.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're just gonna die, bro, and it's not even long term.
I mean, like, what are you getting out of it now?
That's what I meant.
joe rogan
That's what's most important.
ari shaffir
Yeah, a ton of people that are like, I don't want that shit, so I'm just gonna do a job, you know, working on a tugboat in Seattle for a few months, save up money, and then go fucking enjoy myself.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of people that are just choosing to look at everything that they can see, experience every new place that they can go to.
That Henry Rollins podcast, man, it's a world changer.
That crazy fucker, he's fascinating.
I never met anybody like him.
He's really fascinating.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he goes and does stuff and sees stuff.
joe rogan
It was just also his outlook, how he simplifies all the things that are wrong with him and all the things that are wrong with the way he interacts with people, and so this is what I'm going to do.
His story about being given Was it Ritalin?
It was Ritalin, right?
From the time he was like five.
If he was a young boy, they gave him Ritalin until senior year of high school.
So he was like, I would just be on these pills.
I'd be like all day.
At the end of the day, like boom, he would like crash.
And then they'd do it again.
I mean, they were juicing him up with this crazy stuff.
He was an experimental case.
ari shaffir
He grew up in, from what I understand, he's from Potomac, Maryland, which is the same county as where I grew up in, but that was the richer part of town.
Not that he was a rich kid, but Montgomery County is one of the richest counties in America, and that was just a standard thing.
If your kid's not performing ideally, he's learning disabled, give him some pills.
joe rogan
Right.
Crazy.
People thought for a while that that was the way to go.
Just it's just fascinating that he's so like Henry's so intense and he's so like is he's got like these rock-solid Ethics and this view of the world.
It's very egalitarian and very open but also very aggressive Very interesting like he thought it out though.
ari shaffir
It's not just like oh whatever and this is what I believe no matter what Yes, he's like, oh yeah for sure.
I thought about this and here's the answer.
joe rogan
Oh No, I super enjoyed talking to him.
Thanks for hooking that up.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm glad it worked out.
Oh, it was great.
I was like, did you ever link up with him?
He was like, yeah, we did.
unidentified
It was a good podcast.
ari shaffir
I was like, oh, hell yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was really good.
I just love when someone is just soaking in as much as they can get.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just out there, like, let's go to Bali.
And he just goes to Bali.
Let's go to Africa.
Now we're in Tanzania.
Now we're in Botswana.
You know, and just meeting people and going out on the fucking sand dunes and shit with Bedouins.
ari shaffir
If you get away from, like, the backpacker's path, you know, the tourist path, and sometimes it would get, like, too much.
But you just go out, and then you can, like...
Yeah, I really see some shit, like basically what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
My friend Jesse's going back to Liberia in December.
They left after when Charles Taylor was taken over.
But now it's safe again.
joe rogan
Is it?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and they're trying to convince the world that it's a decent tourist place.
But Jesse's going back in December, like, dude, I'm coming with you.
I'm staying with your fucking family's house.
Not in the hotel, but let's see what shit's really like out there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Let's see.
ari shaffir
I bet it's a trip.
joe rogan
Did you ever see the Vice piece on Liberia?
Vice guy to travel and they went to Liberia and my man Shane, he was over there in Liberia talking to this dude who, his name is General Butt Naked.
This guy was famous for going into combat during the war.
He would take all his clothes off and he'd run naked.
Killing people naked.
Dude, he admitted he was talking about how they would capture a child from the other tribe and they would kill him and cut pieces of the heart out and eat it to give them invincibility.
He was talking about this.
And he's free on the streets and they exonerated him because now he's like a Christian minister.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's pretty much only Charles Taylor got punished.
Everyone else was like, you're all done.
Go be part of the government.
It's okay.
joe rogan
Dude, this guy like openly talks about all the crazy shit that he did.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
About cutting the hearts out of children and eating them.
ari shaffir
You know how LaBear was started?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
I didn't know that until recently.
joe rogan
Tell everybody.
Slave thing.
ari shaffir
Freed slaves.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They went back to President Monroe, freed them, and said, we'll ship you back there if you want.
And a lot of people were like, yeah, I don't trust you guys.
So I'm going to go back to Africa.
unidentified
Crazy.
ari shaffir
But they never grew up.
And so they called it Liberia for liberated.
And that's why they all speak English.
They don't have any African language anymore.
unidentified
Jeez.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Monrovia is their capital, President Monroe.
joe rogan
The idea of it is so crazy.
I know you use that expression too much.
ari shaffir
What, going back and starting up a free slave country?
joe rogan
Well, just taking them and throwing them onto a patch of land.
Good luck!
ari shaffir
It's like setting out a zoo animal into the wild.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
It's like, have fun surviving.
joe rogan
Holy shit, man.
And just talk about feeling displaced and confused.
You didn't even grow up there.
ari shaffir
We don't have any lions in fucking Georgia.
joe rogan
And you must be thinking to yourself, like, what kind of shit luck do I have?
I have double shit luck.
I have shit luck.
That I was a slave and then shit luck that I was thrown back to Africa.
ari shaffir
I think that might have been the way to go.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
To be free is better.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, 100%.
ari shaffir
Or to be the semi-free post-slavery America.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, but I'm just saying, like it's still a bad hand.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Shit luck.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
You only get three cards.
The best you can do is three of a kind.
joe rogan
Well, this general butt-naked guy turned a dude in because the dude was selling human flesh.
And he knew because he had eaten human flesh.
So he knew what it tasted like.
So that's how when he was buying like shish kebab from this guy, he turned him in.
He's like, this guy was selling human flesh.
I could tell because I've eaten it before.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
The fuck did you just say?
You could tell what it tastes like.
If I gave you a piece of lamb, would you know for sure that was a lamb?
ari shaffir
I have an idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, an idea.
But I could maybe sneak in like a piece of wild sheep or something.
ari shaffir
You might think that was lamb.
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
This motherfucker knew.
That's him right there.
ari shaffir
I think I know what human flesh tastes like.
joe rogan
That's him right there.
General butt naked.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I got a taste.
It was human.
I called the police.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Nice talk.
He knows what human tastes like, dude.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck!
ari shaffir
Jess said that when they were testing out rocket launchers to sell them to people there, they would be like, let me show you.
And they would just blow up a dam.
And so the infrastructure was totally fucked because everyone was testing out their weapons.
I'm like, no, we need that building!
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so crazy.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're like, cool, it works.
I'll take ten.
joe rogan
Well, maybe it'll eventually calm down and be like Australia, right?
Because Australia was a place where they wanted to get rid of prisoners.
They shipped them off to Australia.
Now they're the best people ever.
Maybe that's exactly what's going to happen to Liberia.
They just need a couple of generations to knock the dust off.
ari shaffir
Well, they got rid of Taylor, so they should be okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe they'll be fine.
It just takes a while to rebound from some shit like that.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but Henry Rollins has that of going to a place and like, let me see what this is like.
It's kind of inspiring.
joe rogan
There's not a whole lot of people that do it, that's for sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he works.
Like, his work ethic's insane.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Like, I'm talking about his writing and what he's doing, and he's always doing something, he's writing columns, and...
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, he's just always...
ari shaffir
So he goes and does stuff, and then he comes home and takes care of business.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And then he's like, cool, took care of it, go.
I think I would do this again after my next special.
joe rogan
Yeah?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're just gonna just...
unidentified
Every couple years?
ari shaffir
It's like, once you're finished with work, it's like, all right, before I start building up again...
joe rogan
Do a walkabout.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't know.
See some of the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, do a walkabout.
ari shaffir
I met a bunch of people doing gap years.
joe rogan
What's a gap year?
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
What's a gap year?
It's all over every other country.
Just not ours.
joe rogan
What's that mean?
ari shaffir
In between high school and college.
You're leaving your friends.
You're about to make new friends.
joe rogan
Oh, take a year off.
ari shaffir
Get out of here for a year.
In between college and grad school or college and your first year of work, now's the time.
joe rogan
Well, European countries have a point in this more relaxed approach to the future and your life.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
They really do.
This conqueror's mentality.
I wonder how many heart attacks we have in comparison to European people.
ari shaffir
I don't know, but it's like we're not living our lives.
You know Germans get off how many...
Are you familiar with the vacation time leave in America?
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is it?
ari shaffir
It's two weeks, pretty much.
joe rogan
That's it?
ari shaffir
Two weeks vacation, two weeks sick.
joe rogan
Do you get paid vacation?
ari shaffir
Paid vacation, two weeks.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Is that standard?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's a standard.
joe rogan
Okay.
ari shaffir
That's 9 to 530, you know.
In Germany, and most of Europe, definitely all of Scandinavia, you get 25 days off.
unidentified
Jesus.
ari shaffir
Five weeks.
joe rogan
Jesus.
ari shaffir
And, and, if you get sick during those weeks off, if you had to go to a hospital in wherever country you're in, and you showed them I was in a hospital, you get those days back.
They'll count against your sick time instead.
And they expect you to take the vacation time, too.
Not like here, where they're like, come on, you can't really use it.
joe rogan
You know what's fucked up?
Sick time.
Like, I ran out of sick days.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Like, what?
What do you mean?
ari shaffir
You're sick.
joe rogan
Like, you're sick.
Like, either you're a fucking liar...
Or I trust you.
Now, if I trust you, you're just really unfortunate.
And if I love you and we're friends and we work together, I want you to get better.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it sucks, but you have mono, so okay.
joe rogan
You don't have to come back to work because you already used up your 14 days.
ari shaffir
You get exactly sick the same amount of time every year, too.
joe rogan
Can you imagine telling somebody, like, buddy, you're out of sick days.
I'm going to have to dock your pay.
You're dying.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
I can't breathe.
You want IVs and shit.
I don't care.
You're out of sick days.
ari shaffir
The calendar doesn't say that.
It doesn't back you up on that.
joe rogan
The statistics say, in order to keep revenue flowing, we must keep you in the process.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
You have a certain amount of days you're allowed to be sick.
That's fucking ridiculous.
Like, hopefully there'll be zero.
Whoa, I'm saving up my sick days.
What?
You save up your sick days?
What does that mean?
Like, your sick days carry over?
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
So you get extra days where you can pretend you're sick?
ari shaffir
No, you can save up sick days.
You can save up vacation days, but I don't think you can save up sick days.
joe rogan
I should be able to.
You should be.
unidentified
I didn't get sick.
joe rogan
I should be able to move them around like cards.
ari shaffir
At least give you half of them back.
I took four.
I have ten left over.
Give me five for next year.
joe rogan
People with real jobs are so mad at us right now.
unidentified
You motherfuckers don't know shit about sick days or work days to be under the thumb of an oppressive dictator.
ari shaffir
I'm saying it's terrible.
It's an expectation that you never take off.
You have to pour your whole life into that shit.
And it's like, oh man, go do some stuff.
joe rogan
Okay, let me play devil's advocate because if I was one of the people out there that likes to complain about shit, I'd be like, that's easy for you to say, Ari, you haven't had a job.
You don't have the responsibilities I have.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's true.
Alright, I'll be quiet.
End of podcast.
No, no, no.
I'm saying, though, they demand better.
They get it better in other places.
joe rogan
They absolutely should.
ari shaffir
First of all...
For expectation that you go fucking see the world and go do stuff.
joe rogan
40 hour a week work week is bullshit.
ari shaffir
It's bullshit.
It's bullshit.
You're not productive at that level.
joe rogan
Nobody should do it.
ari shaffir
And it shouldn't be standard.
Everyone has to do the same amount.
joe rogan
Unless I want to buy something that you make.
Then could you please get everybody to do overtime and put in a night shift and give people time and a half for overtime so you encourage them to go overtime?
Yeah, time and a half.
ari shaffir
You can get out of the mindset of having to work this time and just demand something better or more interesting for your life.
joe rogan
Well, it's just a weird standard that we've all accepted pretty much across the country.
9 to 5, 9 to 5, 9 to 5. Morning, Sam.
Morning, Bob.
ari shaffir
9 to 5. It's 9 to 5.30 or 6. Oh, yeah.
If you want to take a lunch break, you don't get paid for that anymore.
joe rogan
You don't?
ari shaffir
No, it's not 9 to 5 anymore.
joe rogan
Is that Trump?
unidentified
Did he do this?
ari shaffir
No, no.
It's Trump.
It's been a long time.
joe rogan
Nine to five.
It's bullshit.
Nine to five.
Could you imagine?
What a weird, weird decision to make the most significant thing be the productivity.
Where's that horn going off, young Jamie?
You hear that?
Is it in the back?
Just give it a little double check.
ari shaffir
Go out there with the baseball bat.
Tell them to shut the fuck up.
Walk towards them aggressively.
joe rogan
The move is walk out there with your dick in your hand.
That way you startle anyone you see and you always have the first move.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
They're reacting to you now.
Like, this guy's crazy.
He came out with his dick out.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if you're getting ready to fight and you just come out holding on to your dick, people are like, whoa, what's he planning?
ari shaffir
A lot of people would back down from that fight.
joe rogan
A lot of people wouldn't.
ari shaffir
A lot of people might not.
joe rogan
People would be worried that the dick would touch you.
But once it did touch you, we'd realize it really doesn't do anything.
unidentified
It's okay.
ari shaffir
That'd be the chief thing.
unidentified
Punch him.
ari shaffir
People would have to lean back with their hands forward to try to get...
As if your punches don't matter, but the dick touching you does.
joe rogan
Yeah, like he's going to touch you and give you cooties.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's going to zap you.
It's kind of like an electric-yield dick.
ari shaffir
I gotta pee.
joe rogan
Right here?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't want to leave.
joe rogan
You're gonna use a kombucha bottle?
ari shaffir
Yeah, man, that's the healthiest bottle to pee into.
joe rogan
You've done this twice.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we've done this on the podcast before.
unidentified
Great.
joe rogan
For sure.
I like the fact that you're willing to do that, too.
I don't think we can show it on YouTube, though, so we'll have to move away.
Oh, all right, guys, dick out.
ari shaffir
Canberra bottles are great, too, because they have a big opening.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So it doesn't vacuum up.
joe rogan
How often do you pee?
Do you pee several times a day?
Every day.
Every day.
But are you like one of them healthy water drinker dudes?
ari shaffir
I pee a lot.
joe rogan
Are you a healthy water drinker dude?
ari shaffir
Interesting detail that's just happened.
joe rogan
Oh, you ran out?
Oh, no.
Hold on a second.
ari shaffir
Jamie, go to the recycling.
Get me something.
unidentified
It's alright, I'm pinching.
ari shaffir
I got a strong grip.
I mean, you can move it.
Don't have to take it.
Why are you touching the bottle?
unidentified
A cup?
ari shaffir
Not a bottle?
unidentified
Seems like a bottle.
ari shaffir
Oh man, it's going back in though.
I can feel it's starting to swell back in.
That's not healthy.
I've been pinching too long.
unidentified
Should I pee into the cup?
ari shaffir
A bottle, yeah.
Oh, you emptied it.
Oh, thanks, man.
unidentified
Oh yeah, a lot went back into my urethra.
joe rogan
Ari Shafir couldn't hold in his pee, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
Couldn't means wouldn't.
joe rogan
Filled up one kombucha bottle.
Here's a cap there, fella.
And then filled it up again.
I had to go empty it out for him.
unidentified
Thanks for doing that.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
unidentified
It's a real friend.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't want to leave you hanging there, dude.
There was only one solution.
I almost went to the kitchen sink.
And then I'd be like, ew, then we'd have to rinse that out.
That shit would be nasty.
ari shaffir
Dude, that bathroom sink is nasty.
unidentified
You ever have a cleaner in here?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Oh, it looks like a bachelor.
joe rogan
We're on our way out of this place.
ari shaffir
Oh, man.
unidentified
It's not that bad.
joe rogan
It's not that bad.
ari shaffir
You've just gotten used to it.
You've slowly seen it get worse and worse.
joe rogan
I like gas station bathrooms.
Trying to recreate that here.
Try to recreate that here.
I should definitely have someone come in.
unidentified
It's a fucking 409. Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you like doing your podcast?
The way you're doing it, you just have a subject for the most part.
I mean, you can deviate once you start talking, but you have a set thing you want to talk to someone about.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it keeps me focused.
And then it's also like I get to ask real detailed questions about stuff I want to ask about.
And usually I get it with some level of expert.
Not like the best in the world, but someone who has experience with something.
Like I'm an expert on stand-up comedy.
You know, I've been one.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
So if you were doing that, I could tell you all about stand-up.
I know more than most people in the world.
You know about hunting more than most people, you know?
joe rogan
Not really.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but you've done it more than, like, Ian Edwards.
joe rogan
I know more than the average person, but in terms of people who actually know it, I'm very novice.
ari shaffir
Right.
But at least you're aware of it enough to be like, yeah, I know about that world.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know a little bit about that world.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
So yeah, I like doing it that way.
joe rogan
But imagine if a five-year comic started talking about what stand-up is.
ari shaffir
That'd be a problem.
joe rogan
You'd be like, shut up, annoying boy.
ari shaffir
It does take a lot longer with stand-up.
joe rogan
It's the same with hunting.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm a five-year hunter.
So for me, I just shut the fuck up and listen to the people that actually know what's going on.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or parrot what they say.
It's too complicated.
Hunting is super complicated.
There's a lot involved in that.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but generally, it's like Theo Vaughn climbed Kilimanjaro.
joe rogan
Did he really?
ari shaffir
Or up to base camp or something.
I don't know, something like that.
joe rogan
I love that guy.
ari shaffir
Oh, he's great.
joe rogan
He's so funny, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's really hilarious.
joe rogan
He's so funny.
I was in the back of the OR the other night, and he was killing me.
I mean, killing me to the point where I was crying, tears were rolling down my face.
unidentified
He's so silly.
ari shaffir
Did we hear him talk about being Brad Pitt?
That bit?
joe rogan
Yes, I did.
ari shaffir
He's real funny.
joe rogan
He's really funny.
If you get a chance to see him, folks, if you're out on the road, unless Ari's in town.
ari shaffir
Jason Tebow does an impression of him for Punch Drunk.
joe rogan
Does he?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it'll just come in sometimes.
Him and Dean Del Rey.
He's just like, oh, I'm talking to Theo now.
He does it so good with that accent.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Part of what's funny about him, too, is his accent.
He's just fucking great.
So many funny guys there, man.
ari shaffir
Dude, he stayed at my apartment one month.
I think it was in Edinburgh last year.
So he stayed at my place.
And he was like, oh man Ari, I got heavy into coke.
It just went fucking nuts.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
But he left it clean.
Better than anybody else who stayed there.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Duncan left it pretty nice too.
By the way, that's the thing that kept me out a little bit.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
Is that I was like, Duncan, you can stay at my place.
Because he was moving to New York right then.
He was like, don't get an Airbnb.
Just stay at my place.
But I was like, two days in when I got out there.
I was like, I made a huge mistake.
I should go back home.
joe rogan
Two days?
ari shaffir
I mean, it was, yeah.
Right away, it's so different that I'm like, what am I done?
This is definitely a mistake.
joe rogan
What was the initial thought behind it?
What did you think?
Do you think that this is what I need to recharge?
ari shaffir
No, I've been wanting to see the world for a while.
This guy Turner brought me out to a tour of China.
And I just sort of saw some of that place.
And it was like, just so, like the really, the meaning of the word foreign, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Just way different.
And it's like, I just wanted to see more of that world.
And then I went with PDC to Thailand a couple years ago.
Went to one of those full moon parties.
And I just got more like, I want to see things.
I did a Scandinavian tour last year.
I made sure to leave days off in between shows.
So I could really see some of the cities.
I don't know, man.
I just get off and like seeing new...
New versions of the world and new experience of what people care about.
joe rogan
Well, I think we love to to Compartmentalize and to like look at our specific area because I think it's a part of being a human until recently like until you could travel like this We like what people liked was knowing the sort of security of their environment.
They know the environment well They're around all times.
No surprises.
I got this place a lockdown unsafe, but it's not adventurous It's not adventurous.
So this new thing that people were able to do, only really within the last hundred years, where you could just get up and travel.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I guess there's probably world travelers.
ari shaffir
Before.
Yeah, before.
For sure.
joe rogan
But I mean, how many of them did it recreationally?
ari shaffir
Dude, it's so easy now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You can stay at hostels for cheap as fuck.
You know, meet people and have them tell you what there is to do, where you are, where to go, where to not go.
joe rogan
When do you think that that was really an acceptable thing?
Hostiles?
No, no, no.
I mean, world travel.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
Like, when were you an invader?
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
joe rogan
And when did it become okay to be a tourist?
ari shaffir
I think it was always sort of okay to be, like, some guy in foreign lands.
As long as you're by yourself and not, like, an invading, you know, force.
But if you want to just visit somewhere...
joe rogan
Right.
I just wonder how many people did it.
Yeah, I know.
ari shaffir
Dude, here's what I noticed in Hong Kong and Shanghai, which are banking centers.
And the people that would come to the shows, expats.
Hong Kong had more locals because they had to speak English there.
But in Shanghai, let's say.
And it's like, if you're an English banker from London or somebody from New York, and you took the job in Shanghai, China, you have to have some adventurous bone to you instead of staying in New York or staying in London.
You have to be saying like, yeah, I'm going to go with my kids or without my kids.
I'm going to go fucking do this new thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And yeah, I mean, just to want to go do that.
You can do it now.
There's jobs everywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
My friend William Childress, he moved to Myanmar.
He got a job offer.
He's an architect.
joe rogan
Wow.
So he's building houses in Myanmar?
ari shaffir
Prisons.
Yeah.
Designing them.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
But like, it just opened up.
The army just let in people.
And he was like one of those first wave of people.
And he started doing stand-up out there.
joe rogan
Dude, that's gotta be a creepy feeling.
Building prisons.
ari shaffir
Something like that.
Yeah, designing them.
joe rogan
And now he's doing stand-up?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he did all his time there.
He had the show I did in Bangkok.
He brought me out there from Myanmar.
He took a trip there and met me in Bangkok.
joe rogan
So do you think he's doing comedy to balance out the building prisons?
ari shaffir
No.
No, he just does comedy.
I think here he's designing something else.
joe rogan
He's back in America now.
Because that's building prisons.
Not that we don't need prisons.
Not that there aren't bad people that should be locked up.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
But that's not what I'm saying.
ari shaffir
He's got to design them, so he's got to make them more comfortable, maybe.
joe rogan
Whatever.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Make it so they can't get out.
That's what it's about.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They get a little bit of sunshine.
A little bit of sunshine.
ari shaffir
Can't get out.
What's the wall situation?
joe rogan
It's a crazy thing when someone escapes from prison.
Wah, wah, wah.
And let the dogs go.
unidentified
Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
ari shaffir
Can you imagine getting out of prison?
joe rogan
Oh my God, I must be so excited.
ari shaffir
Digging a tunnel every night.
Or finding, you have to find the way out.
How do you know the way out?
How do you escape?
joe rogan
How about El Chapo?
He just walks down to the hole that's under his toilet that goes a mile plus into the ground and then pops up at some goofy ass house and gets in a car and drives off.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
See ya, suckers.
ari shaffir
Is he still free or is he in?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
He's back.
They caught him.
ari shaffir
El Chapo.
joe rogan
They did something.
He got injured too.
Something happened to him.
He hurt his leg or something like that.
ari shaffir
Running through the tunnels?
joe rogan
I think he might have like broken his leg falling and they're trying to escape.
You know, he didn't look like he was the most fit fella.
He's too busy running shit to actually be running.
ari shaffir
Well, El Chapo, if you can hear this, July 18th, my Netflix special comes out.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Shout out to El Chapo.
ari shaffir
You might want to check that out, El Chapo.
joe rogan
Do you think he speaks English and would the comedy translate to him?
ari shaffir
I think some of it would.
unidentified
Sure.
ari shaffir
Some of it would.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They'd have to have subtitles on Netflix, so.
joe rogan
Right.
I always wondered, like, that's one of the unique things about, like, learning a language, is the way they structure their sentences is very different.
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
So you can't, it's not just, this word means that, and that word means this, so you just replace them.
No.
ari shaffir
It's interesting when you talk to people from other countries, when you're out there, and you start to be able to translate their mistranslations.
Like, easy things, like what time it is.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
They don't realize, like, that's a statement, not a question.
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
When they say five years more, it means like, I've already been here five years.
So you have to understand what they really mean.
joe rogan
Sort of like that 72 virgins expression.
It means like a shitload.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it means.
72 is like a shitload.
You know?
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not like a specific number.
ari shaffir
Like when we see a few.
It's like technically it means three, but really it just means, I don't know, some.
joe rogan
A humongous amount.
ari shaffir
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
72 virgins.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Like, oh my god.
ari shaffir
And so we all took that as like, you think you're getting exactly 72 virgins?
joe rogan
Exactly.
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
No, we don't.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I used to do a whole bit about that.
ari shaffir
72 virgins.
joe rogan
Suicide bombers.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
What page is this whole 72 virgins on?
ari shaffir
I remember that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not even written anywhere.
unidentified
Shut up!
ari shaffir
You shut up!
Do it!
Okay, I just want to know.
Why can't you just tell me what page it's on?
joe rogan
What a crazy world to think that there are people that will go into crowded areas like in Manchester and just blow themselves up and kill a bunch of people around them.
unidentified
Balls.
ari shaffir
Or just like belief?
joe rogan
Oh, belief for sure.
And then some sort of mental illness for sure.
There's a lot of issues.
Abuse maybe.
Maybe there's physical abuse.
ari shaffir
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Have an extreme desire to show their love.
ari shaffir
You just think you're at war, right?
joe rogan
Who knows?
Who knows what you think?
To break down the psychology of someone who's a suicide bomber would be very...
Like, you would have to do a tremendous amount of research before you started drawing any conclusions.
ari shaffir
It's hard to find them to talk to them, too.
unidentified
That's a problem.
joe rogan
That is a problem.
The theoretical suicide bombers do not apply.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm thinking about doing it.
ari shaffir
You have to get guys whose vests don't go off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Like, hey, we gotta talk to you.
joe rogan
Even then, like, what are you gonna get?
This is a recovered person.
They got through that moment where they're gonna blow themselves up and it didn't happen.
Now they've sort of had a chance to think about it.
How do you charge that guy?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, I wouldn't do that again.
I realize I was about to do that.
You know, there's a different, in deviant sociology, there's a different category for people who attempt suicide and people who commit suicide.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
In the psyche of it.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
ari shaffir
Because their thing is, if you attempted it, you weren't really trying.
It ain't that hard to do.
You were probably trying to cry out.
And the people who do it generally shut up about it more.
They just do it without telling people, like, I'm gonna kill myself, I want to kill myself.
So somebody said if people say they want to kill themselves, that's a good sign that they need help, but that they're not gonna kill themselves.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
There's...
Is there a different...
There's a different mentality between also someone who wants to kill themselves and someone who wants to literally be the bomb that kills a bunch of other people.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a...
ari shaffir
If you really believe in heaven and you're going there, though...
Fucking great.
Get there.
Why wait?
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
You're for sure going.
It's like, you know, the Catholic confession on your deathbed, and then you go straight to heaven, but it's hard to time it right?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
If you confess all your sins right before you die, you have no sins left.
You're going to heaven.
joe rogan
Right.
You gotta time it right.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and it's really hard.
These guys figured out the way to time it perfectly.
My act of blowing myself up gets me into heaven, wipes away all my sins.
joe rogan
Right.
One shot.
ari shaffir
Unless...
As he blew it up, a part of him goes, fuck, right before he died.
unidentified
Then he goes to hell for eternity.
ari shaffir
Too callous, Jamie?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
I don't know anybody from Manchester.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Just...
What if you do it?
joe rogan
What if you do it and you think you're going to be in heaven?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you press the button.
Boom!
And then all of a sudden it's just you disembodied in an infinite black room.
It's just you forever in the blackness of infinite space with no stars just you alone With no body what's floating through eternity?
You just you you can experience the blackness of space But with no stars and nothing to look at no women forever just you just you just your consciousness and realizing how huge you fucked up forever and Oh, that'd be pretty bad.
ari shaffir
You'd go crazy, right?
Then you'd come back?
unidentified
Crazy?
ari shaffir
Then you'd come back crazy?
joe rogan
What would even be crazy?
Imagine if you have your consciousness.
ari shaffir
Forever, with nothing to apply it to.
joe rogan
Nothing to apply it to.
And you're floating through infinity.
And you don't have a body, so you're not going to die.
ari shaffir
That's pretty bad, man.
That's a pretty bad punishment.
That's pretty bad.
joe rogan
It's not good enough.
ari shaffir
Wow, that would be real tough.
joe rogan
Still not good enough.
You should float forever through eternity while you're feeling like you're choking on dicks.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Like that feeling.
For eternity.
Because if you can exist for a second while you're choking on a dick, you could exist for eternity while you're choking on a dick.
ari shaffir
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
So that should be the punishment for suicide bombers.
ari shaffir
They had The Simpsons when they had Homer going to hell.
And then the devil, or one of the demons, was like, so you like donuts, do you?
Try eating a million donuts!
And there's this conveyor belt that keeps shoveling donuts into his mouth.
And he keeps going, more please.
More please.
And then he's getting all fat and big.
He's like, please more.
Another one please.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ever do the Simpsons ride at Universal?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
It's fucking amazing.
ari shaffir
Is it really?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's a giant animated ride.
You just sit in a car.
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
It's one of the best rides ever.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It's so good.
Yeah, and it's all happening on a screen, but the car's moving around so it feels real, and it's an enormous fucking really high-resolution screen where it's showing this huge cartoon where this whole thing plays out.
Oh, it's fucking great.
It's really good.
The Simpsons are a national treasure.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they really are.
It's pretty great.
It's pretty great.
My whole adulthood, I guess.
joe rogan
They've been on since I was in high school.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Really?
They were like one of the first Fox shows.
joe rogan
Dude, they were one of the first Fox shows.
unidentified
25 or something?
How many years now?
joe rogan
Something crazy like that.
ari shaffir
30. 30?
Yeah, me too.
High school.
joe rogan
Dude.
It's forever ago.
ari shaffir
It's always been there.
joe rogan
I'll never forget it.
I remember, like, what a great show.
Remember when Homer Simpson went to a chili cook-off and the peppers were so hot, he started tripping?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had psychedelic trips.
ari shaffir
You know what those peppers were?
The merciless...
joe rogan
The ghost peppers, right?
Isn't that what it was supposed to be?
ari shaffir
Of Quetzalcoatl Nongo.
joe rogan
What is that?
Is that what they called it?
ari shaffir
The merciless ghost peppers of Quetzalcoatl Nongo.
Grown deep in the jungle primeval by the inmates of a Guatemalan insane asylum.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a great show.
Goddamn, what a creative...
See, that's the thing about, like, Bill Burr's show, F is for Family, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I haven't seen the new ones yet.
I heard they're great.
I heard they're really good.
joe rogan
Of course it's great.
Bill's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, um, you could do so much cool shit on a cartoon that you can't do in real life.
ari shaffir
Here, watch the head.
unidentified
Watch the head.
ari shaffir
There it is.
Back it up.
The other head again.
joe rogan
People get decapitated.
They get blown up.
I mean, how many times does South Park kill Kenny?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
He just killed him.
joe rogan
He didn't care that he came back.
He just comes back.
ari shaffir
I love how later they sort of dealt with it, with the reincarnation sort of stuff, and they said, I'm listening to things.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
He remembers all his past lives.
joe rogan
It's so ridiculous.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I love when F's for Family, because there's a real...
I mean...
joe rogan
I was going to say the all-time best is South Park, but I don't really think there's an all-time best.
They're all awesome.
I don't want to say this is number one, this is number two, but South Park has had some fucking moments.
ari shaffir
I won't miss that show is South Park, and for years it's been that.
You just don't miss any episodes.
There's no falling behind.
Oh yeah, somehow I just stopped watching a couple seasons ago.
It's just like, every year I get so excited when I see those posters on the billboard now, on the billboards on the subway.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And it's like, oh, it's back!
joe rogan
It's a fucking amazing show.
And it's been amazing forever.
ari shaffir
Do you ever have Trey Parker on here on this podcast?
joe rogan
I would, for sure.
ari shaffir
Oh, you should.
joe rogan
I would.
I'd have them both on.
ari shaffir
And Matt, yeah.
joe rogan
You left Matt out.
ari shaffir
How dare you.
joe rogan
You don't even care about Matt.
Do you ever see that show where they show the making of South Park?
ari shaffir
Six Days to Air.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's great.
joe rogan
Fuck, yeah.
ari shaffir
Documentary.
It's great.
joe rogan
He's humbling, right?
Trey Parker?
Like his work ethic?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The way he goes after it, it's like, whoa.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
To get the fuck out of that guy's way.
ari shaffir
Out of his way.
It's pretty much that's that.
He's like, hey guys, come out for a second.
What can I do with this?
And then someone will say something.
unidentified
Cool.
ari shaffir
And then right back in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That dude from SNL working there that week, and he barely had anything to do.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
What was his name?
jamie vernon
Bill Hader.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Hader.
joe rogan
What's his name?
ari shaffir
John Hader.
joe rogan
John Hader?
jamie vernon
Bill Hader.
joe rogan
Bill Hader.
ari shaffir
Who's John Hader?
Oh, Napoleon Dynamite.
joe rogan
Hey, let me ask you this.
What do you think of Bill Maher?
ari shaffir
I've never been a Bill Maher fan.
joe rogan
What do you think of this whole recent controversy?
ari shaffir
If I'm just casually dropping an n-bomb?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You know, he was trying to make a joke.
joe rogan
Exactly, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it didn't work, but he was trying to be naughty.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's all.
joe rogan
But they're making it seem like it's something more.
ari shaffir
Anytime it's words that are like, you said this, it's like, yeah, said, said, not did.
Did is worse.
But it's also- Does he not hire black people?
That's a major issue, if he's never hired a black person.
But I don't think I've heard of that, so it's like his actions aren't...
joe rogan
We were talking about, before the podcast, this thing where they were talking about the Clintons in Arkansas in the governance mansion.
What show was that?
What show was it?
Did you see it, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I read it.
I didn't see it on the show.
joe rogan
Oh, you read it?
jamie vernon
It was getting passed around the internet yesterday.
joe rogan
It's got to be Russian disinformation.
ari shaffir
It could be.
Who knows?
But when Bill Maher, when they go like troubling from Bill Maher, I mean, I get it.
Even the Republican senator that he was there with was like, uh, what?
Like, I'm a little uncomfortable with this.
But sure, be uncomfortable.
And if I'm watching a guy who uses words that make me uncomfortable all the time, I'll stop watching, I guess.
You know?
joe rogan
Twitter erupts over news that Hillary Clinton used black prison labor while First Lady of Arkansas.
ari shaffir
Newsweek.com.
joe rogan
And what does it have to do with JFK? I don't know.
JFK pushed the Democrats to...
Democrat right in 1969?
ari shaffir
Pushed them to the right.
And Hillary Clinton did it in 2016. Huh.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
Why does it not do that?
joe rogan
Here's the point.
Okay, when we moved in, I was told that using prison labor at the governor's mansion was a long-standing tradition which kept down cost.
Clinton writes, she adds that most of the workers were convicted murderers and she became friendly with, in quotes, a few of them African-American men in their 30s who had already served 12 to 18 years of their sentences.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Despite their alleged friendships with these men, Clinton tells her readers, we enforced rules strictly and sent back to prison any inmate who broke a rule.
Despite having no psychological qualifications, she later asserts that these men did not have inferior IQs or an ability to apply moral reasoning, but instead they may have been emotional illiterates.
Emotional illiterates.
unidentified
I don't know.
ari shaffir
That's what she said.
joe rogan
I like how it says, despite having no psychological qualifications, she later asserts...
ari shaffir
Despite having no ability to say this, she said, yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of weird, though, that...
ari shaffir
Slave labor.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is exactly what that is.
I mean...
ari shaffir
No, no, it's just tradition.
It's like, yeah, but that doesn't mean you should do it.
joe rogan
Let's be honest, like, how much are they getting paid?
ari shaffir
Zero.
What, fucking one pack of cigarettes a week?
joe rogan
Yeah, what do they get?
They do not pay inmates at all.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Clinton makes no mention of whether or not these men received any money for working for her and her husband.
A 2016 article from Mother Jones notes that when it comes to prison labor, some states include Texas, Arkansas, and Georgia do not pay inmates at all.
Holy fuck.
On Twitter, Jing wrote that Hillary Clinton was a direct participant in what Sam Sway?
Sam Sway?
It's at Sam Sway on Twitter, I guess.
Correctly described as modern slavery.
100%.
Dude, that's 100% slavery.
If you don't pay someone, you make them work because they did a crime.
That's a crazy thing.
ari shaffir
We don't let them vote?
joe rogan
But you're making them work.
That's what's crazy about it.
It's like, it's not just that...
Your freedom's taken away, and they lock you in a box, but they also make you work.
ari shaffir
Saying your lives aren't worth anything.
We can make you do whatever you want.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that dude from Phoenix makes you work in pink.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, that...
joe rogan
Jalar Pio guy?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Yeah, he's an interesting case.
joe rogan
He makes you put pink on.
ari shaffir
To embarrass you.
joe rogan
Yeah, do you get embarrassed when you're wearing pink?
ari shaffir
I wear pink sometimes.
joe rogan
I don't give a fuck.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, I'm not a big pink wearer.
I'll occasionally wear pink.
ari shaffir
I'll admit, I'm not a big pink wearer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But at the same time, I don't care about it.
joe rogan
I'm not scared of a color.
I'm a rational person for the most part.
ari shaffir
I remember in high school, like 13, 14, wearing pink ties and stuff.
Yeah.
Being a little embarrassed, but also being like, this looks good.
And then learning the word salmon makes it way more easier.
joe rogan
You know Gene LaBelle always wore a pink judo gi?
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yep.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
It's clean and sober, it says on all of them.
Clean and sober, with pink shirts.
Probably because they were drug offenders, right?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
He gets upset.
He wants everybody clean.
ari shaffir
I mean, it's better than him making them right?
joe rogan
Clean, ing, and sober.
Oh, there's an ing in quotes around it.
That silly rascal.
ari shaffir
And he's not taken out, ever.
joe rogan
Pink.
Um, so Judo Gene LaBelle was like one of the toughest men that's ever lived, did his judo with a pink gi on.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
Fuck you, that's why.
Google Judo Gene LaBelle.
Judo Gene LaBelle was, uh, he was, uh, I know he was a national champion in judo, and I think he won a gold medal in the Olympics.
ari shaffir
Dude, I saw Clay Guido see him once, and this was when Clay Guido was coming up, so he wasn't like, he was in the cheap seats with us, and he saw Judo Jean in the section where you sit, and he was like, oh, fuck!
And he just jumped, I don't know how he got past security, just like ran past them, just to go give that guy a hug.
joe rogan
There's Gene LaBelle and his pinky.
What is Gene LaBelle's accomplishments?
He's had a shitload of accomplishments in judo.
He trained Ronda, right?
He definitely did some training with Ronda, and he's also the guy that exposed Bruce Lee to grappling.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
To joint locks and joint manipulations.
What does it say here?
National champion.
So he won the AAU National Judo Championships in 54 and in 55. North American Heavyweight Championship.
See, NWA, all that stuff I think is like fake wrestling.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's real wrestling and professional wrestling.
ari shaffir
There's no tag team in real wrestling, right?
joe rogan
So he was a national champion.
For some reason I thought he was an Olympic champion.
I might have made that up.
ari shaffir
Is there a Greco-Roman tag team?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, that's not real.
So, you can see, like, there's a million pictures of him wearing this ridiculous pink gi.
How do I not know his accomplishments in judo?
Yeah, look at that pink gi.
Yeah, he's crazy.
He's always been crazy, too.
He's an L.A. guy, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a great guy.
He had one of the first mixed martial arts fights, too.
He fought a boxer.
ari shaffir
Simone said he would go down there with Piper.
I guess Piper would train with him.
And he said we'd go down there and he'd get calls all the time for people challenging him.
Judo Gene.
Like, I can beat you up.
And he would just answer the phone all day.
Just going, well, come on.
Prove yourself.
I'm here.
I'll take you.
Alright.
Well, I'm here.
Eight to seven.
Every day.
Bye.
Just like some people are like, fuck you, come, I'll roll with you.
I'll beat you.
joe rogan
He was like in his 60s and he caught some kids breaking into cars in his neighborhood.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And one kid came after him and he just fucking manhandled this poor kid and threw him on the ground.
Imagine being thrown on the ground.
ari shaffir
Like some 65-year-old?
joe rogan
65-year-old judo black belt.
ari shaffir
I'll show this guy what's up.
joe rogan
Blam!
ari shaffir
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He put two dudes to sleep while they're trying to break into cars.
ari shaffir
Ha ha ha ha ha.
joe rogan
He's just a different kind of human being.
It's just like if he got a hold of you, it's like being grabbed by some sort of a primate, you know?
ari shaffir
Imagine.
The surprise is on your face.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just feel so weak.
Once you were in the air, you'd be like, how is this happening?
Before he slams your head off the ground, you've got to be thinking, how is he just throwing me around like this?
What a weird specialty.
The specialty of throwing bodies around.
You can become really good at throwing people's bodies around.
ari shaffir
Did you see that, uh, what's it called?
joe rogan
Boom!
That's beautiful technique.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
Putin giving some kid technique off the sideline here.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
ari shaffir
Wow, that's good.
joe rogan
Boom!
That kid has some technique.
Oh, so Putin gave him a tip.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Man, Putin walking on the mats with his shoes.
Come on, dude.
Putin would fuck up.
I would bet Putin would fuck up all the world leaders if we had a round robin.
ari shaffir
You think so?
joe rogan
MMA contest with all world leaders.
Yeah, I got my money on Putin.
ari shaffir
Definitely the big powers.
Trump's not doing shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's gonna win.
He's an actual judo black belt.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon
It's real weird.
This bird literally looks like it salutes him back.
joe rogan
Should.
Goddamn Putin.
Bird knows his place.
Salute, motherfucker.
Salute.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
That's gotta be fake.
How does he bend his wing over?
joe rogan
You know, man, the real question with a guy like Putin is not, like, how much does he control.
It's like, what happens if that guy dies?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, who takes over that power?
joe rogan
Dude, the vacuum of power behind that guy must be stunning.
ari shaffir
They're a democracy, right, Russia?
unidentified
Sort of.
ari shaffir
Totalitarian democracy?
joe rogan
No, they have some sort of a democracy.
They have some sort of election process, yeah.
Yeah, it's...
ari shaffir
President Gorbachev, right?
President Putin.
joe rogan
As long as you're not running against Putin, it seems to function fairly well.
jamie vernon
He just took over again.
Then he was the president, then he went away.
He just came back like, fuck you guys.
ari shaffir
And took it over again?
joe rogan
I think he came back again in 2012. He's been back for a while.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but not that long.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was gone for a while, and then some other dude got into power, and he's like, hey man, you're the president.
And the guy's like, okay, okay, okay.
Look, it's not admirable.
ari shaffir
That's what the guy from Narcos did, right?
He wanted to be just in government so he could run shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What was his name?
joe rogan
Escobar?
ari shaffir
Escobar.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Pablo.
joe rogan
How good is that actor who plays him?
ari shaffir
So good!
joe rogan
I was trying to figure out his name.
What is his name?
That dude who plays Pablo Escobar?
ari shaffir
Goddamn, he's good.
And he's smoking reefer all day.
joe rogan
All day.
ari shaffir
Just like a normal thing.
joe rogan
I forget his name now.
Respect.
ari shaffir
God, that guy's good.
By the way, if you're watching...
What's it called?
What's that name of the show?
joe rogan
Narcos?
ari shaffir
Narcos.
When you're done, make sure on July 18th and beyond to catch my new Netflix double special.
You'll already be on Netflix.
No sense of going back out to the Apple TV. Oh my goodness.
joe rogan
What day is that again?
ari shaffir
July 18th, Joe.
It's Tuesday.
July 18th.
All over the world.
joe rogan
Fantastic.
ari shaffir
At midnight Pacific time.
joe rogan
Are you going on the road at all?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
No, just fucking around, coming up with material, putting shit together.
ari shaffir
Just coming up with new hours in town in 15s.
joe rogan
Looks like you're having fun up there.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Was it weird to not be on stage?
Or did you go on stage at all?
ari shaffir
No, I went to one show in Phnom Penh.
Saw a show.
joe rogan
Did you get the itch?
ari shaffir
No, they asked me.
They knew me.
They asked me to go up.
joe rogan
Wow, and you said no.
ari shaffir
I was like, nah, well...
One, I really wanted to see what the fully long break would do.
No sense of breaking it up just for one set somewhere.
It would be cool to perform in Cambodia, to mark that off a list.
I like doing that.
That's my bird watching kind of stuff.
What countries I performed in.
Cambodia.
Yeah.
Wow.
But I was like, no.
Also, I didn't want to be going around for the next two months with a fucking bomb on my shoulders.
Like, you know what I mean?
I don't need to fucking walk around with that as, like, my last set.
joe rogan
Oh, so if you went up there and ate dick?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and then I'm like, have I started losing it?
I'm gone.
I'm already nervous about that.
I don't want to fucking...
joe rogan
Oh, no.
ari shaffir
People are like, what are you doing?
I'm like, I don't even know anymore.
joe rogan
Yes.
What was it like the first time on stage after that long break?
ari shaffir
A little weird.
I'd tell a story so I could at least base myself in things that happened, you know?
joe rogan
A narrative.
ari shaffir
Yeah, a narrative.
Less is expected.
But then the next day I did, Nate Bargatze was there in Nashville.
So that's when I came home.
So they wanted to do this show in Third Man Records.
So I just wrote them a letter and I was like, hey, if you still want to do that, add it to the website.
I'll be home.
I'll just come home.
I'll see it.
I'll check it.
So I did Nate Bargatze in Friends the next day.
And that was just stand-up.
And I was like a little lost.
It was weird.
It was rusty around the edges, and I got to like 12 or 13 minutes.
I didn't want to do anything from the special.
So I was just like, what do I have new?
And I tried something that I thought of then on the road, which wasn't much.
I kind of shut my brain off to that a little bit.
Instead of writing jokes, I was like, nah.
A couple topics, and I was like, but that's it.
joe rogan
What if you had an awesome idea that just came to you out of nowhere?
Did you bother writing it down?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I wrote just an idea.
This hasn't worked, so I'll just say it.
I saw two dogs at the end.
So many stray dogs out there.
It's everywhere.
It's everywhere.
And eventually it ends up on menus, too.
Just because it's like fish, man.
They're everywhere.
joe rogan
Jesus.
ari shaffir
Yeah, why wouldn't you kill one to survive?
joe rogan
Did you eat any dog?
ari shaffir
I did not.
Only because when I saw it on a menu, it's called RW in East Timor.
It was like a...
They have this Indonesian style of food, which is warungs.
It's just like windows with food left out.
Do you know how pizza places in New York, you point to a slice and they'll take it and warm it up?
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
So it's like that, but they don't warm it up, and it's meat.
So it's like bits of fish or chicken or beef, and then that was like dog.
So if it was hot out of the oven, I might have gone for it, but not leftover cold.
joe rogan
Cold dog.
ari shaffir
Over rice.
It looked good, though.
It looked good.
I had to ask her four times what she said.
I had to keep checking my, like, translator.
And I was like, no, I think you're saying it wrong.
She was like, yeah, she had to act out like, bock, bock, bock.
No, that's not a dog.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Rough, rough, rough.
ari shaffir
I just do chicken.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I'm trying to do dog.
joe rogan
My friend Steven Rinello was telling me that they regard it as a hot food, not necessarily even just meaning spicy.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
That dog is like a hot food, meaning like there's something to it.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
It's like there's a special energy that you get from eating dog.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's dark.
ari shaffir
I can see that.
Because they seem more like...
Intelligent.
You know?
They seem to have feelings.
Hot food.
Like human meat.
You gain their souls.
joe rogan
He did a show with this guy where they shot and ate a coyote.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
They cooked a coyote like they would cook like wild game.
And they opened it up.
They burned off all the hair.
And then they split it and threw it over like a grate and cooked it over coals.
Just threw some seasoning on it.
It's crackling and cooking.
And they just cut pieces of this coyote off.
And I was watching this going, why is it so disturbing?
When we choose one animal over another.
Why is that so disturbing?
Why is that coyote any different than a pig, which is totally normal?
ari shaffir
It's just pet-wise.
I think that's all it boils down to.
When you don't have that, you don't have it.
joe rogan
It's even weirder than that, because nobody's got a pet coyote.
ari shaffir
Dude, I saw something...
joe rogan
It's close enough to your dog that it can fuck your dog and get it pregnant.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and they're like, oh, we don't like that.
It reminds me of...
joe rogan
It's so close to a dog.
It's so close to a dog that if it fucks your dog, it'll make puppies.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I went to rooster fights.
joe rogan
That seems so crazy.
Doesn't that seem so crazy?
Imagine if a chicken could fuck your parakeet.
ari shaffir
And make something still parakeety?
joe rogan
It opens the cage and gets in the parrot's cage and just fucks the shit out of them.
A chicken in a parrot's cage would be hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're a different species.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But pretty much it looks like the same thing.
joe rogan
Chicken just fucks the shit out of that parrot.
All the time you thought you had a girl parrot, the chicken opens up the door.
ari shaffir
Just laying eggs.
joe rogan
Chicken gets in there and fucks the shit out of it.
Roosters are ruthless, man.
I don't have any roosters, but we were really worried.
When we were getting chickens, we were really worried.
ari shaffir
That one would turn out to be a rooster.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
We had that when I was growing up.
My parents had to give them away, so we had to bring them into the garage every night, because we'd wake up the neighbors in the fucking middle of the suburbs, and they're just like...
joe rogan
What in the fuck?
ari shaffir
Two hours before sunup.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's not sunup.
It's way before sunup.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
They can sense it coming.
joe rogan
Oh, those cunts.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Just screaming next to your neighbor.
Like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, we were in Santa Barbara and some guy had one.
But he had it, like, 1,000, 2,000 yards away.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was far, but you could still hear it.
But it was kind of cool.
Yeah, yeah.
It wasn't obnoxious, like if it was right next door.
It was way across this canyon.
I was like, wow, that's kind of cool.
That wouldn't even bother me.
ari shaffir
I got used to it being out there.
All those countries, they just had them around.
So wherever you were sleeping, there were thin walls.
You would just hear them.
joe rogan
Dude, I want to get peacocks.
ari shaffir
Cool, we have peacocks.
joe rogan
I want to get pet peacocks.
I'm going to go full Hunter S. Thompson and have some pet peacocks.
ari shaffir
I had to bury one of them.
joe rogan
Did you?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he'd fucking reach his head out of the latticework to try to eat the grass right outside, and the fox was just waiting for him.
Took his head, left the body inside.
joe rogan
Foxes are clever.
ari shaffir
Clever girl.
joe rogan
Very clever.
ari shaffir
I went to a rooster fight in Timor-Leste.
joe rogan
Did you really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
In terms of what we accept and what they will, you know, different things.
joe rogan
Dude, they're doing that shit in Encino.
ari shaffir
Are they really?
joe rogan
I guess so, right?
I know a place.
There's places in the valley that might as well be Mexico.
Have you ever seen one?
I've never seen the actual fights, but I've seen the fighting roosters.
I've seen the pens.
There's a dude that I know who knows a dude who's got like a hundred of them in his backyard.
ari shaffir
Wow.
Fighting roosters?
joe rogan
Yeah.
In a lot of these Mexican neighborhoods, dude, it's like super normal.
ari shaffir
They don't view it as weird at all where I saw it.
They were like, you're not taking pictures?
I'm like, oh, I didn't want to get you guys in trouble.
Like, why would it get us in trouble?
What do you mean we're outside?
joe rogan
Right.
In those countries, it's not bad at all.
ari shaffir
The general owns the fucking ring where they all do it.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
But then if you can do that...
Then you can justify dogs.
Like, well, what do we do about dogs?
Well, dogs are a little smarter.
It's a little different.
ari shaffir
There's strays out there.
They are strays.
joe rogan
California authorities seize over 7,000 birds in the largest cockfighting bust in U.S. history.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
That's like three weeks ago.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
In the valley.
unidentified
Valley Verde.
joe rogan
Santa Florida Valley.
See, I told you.
I'm making this up.
ari shaffir
That's meth town anyway.
joe rogan
You say meth town, I say rooster town.
ari shaffir
Hundreds of gaffs are slashers.
Yeah, they put these razors on the back of their back claw.
joe rogan
Isn't it...
I mean, it's...
They give them steroids?
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
For the animals were also recovered.
ari shaffir
I didn't see any of that.
joe rogan
Syringes and steroids.
They got juiced up chickens ready to fuck you up.
Can you imagine?
I want to, like, do a Viceland piece on that.
Watch these dudes shoot their fucking chickens up with steroids and have them go out there, like, and hulk out.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
2,700 birds.
They went back to the same spot.
joe rogan
But here's the thing, man.
ari shaffir
They went for it 10 years earlier.
joe rogan
It doesn't bother you or me like it would if it was dogs.
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
It just doesn't.
ari shaffir
But I'll be honest.
Yeah, no.
Right.
They don't look like us.
Not nearly.
But I thought it would be really barbaric until you see it and you're like, oh, it's not really that bad at all.
I've seen dogfights.
I was in New Orleans and I saw a dogfight.
joe rogan
You did?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Impromptu.
I don't know.
I was out with my friends.
There was a pit.
One fucking pit bull came in and another pit bull came into this pit.
And we're like, what's going on?
And they did it.
And it was, I mean, vicious.
It was vicious.
These cockfights are just like, they fly at each other a couple times, and then one gets like woozy, kneed, and then falls.
joe rogan
Is the cockfight ready?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that looks like one.
Inside, huh?
joe rogan
See, the dogfighting thing, man.
unidentified
That's nice.
joe rogan
The dogfighting thing to those people...
Mean the people that believe in it, I'm sure they would argue with you that there's no difference between dogfighting and rooster fighting.
ari shaffir
Probably not.
joe rogan
Most people think there is because dogs are smarter.
ari shaffir
It was just, but it was also bloodier.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
It was just like more like them ripping each other's fucking everything out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
The other, the other fights are over 30 seconds and you don't even see blood most of the time.
It's just, it's just there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But, yeah, in terms of animals, if I saw a dead animal on the side of the road, what would bother me more?
A dog or a rooster?
joe rogan
It's on YouTube?
They have cockfighting on YouTube?
jamie vernon
The World Slasher Cup.
joe rogan
Oh, the World Slasher Cup.
ari shaffir
I've been waiting for this.
joe rogan
Dude, I DVR'd this.
ari shaffir
Watch, that guy's going to hit the other one in the back to move him, or he's going to pick him up and throw him towards the other one.
joe rogan
Is that what they do?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're not going at each other yet, so they have to really throw them towards each other.
joe rogan
So most of the time, if they put a rooster near a rooster...
ari shaffir
See that?
He's got it tied.
Yeah, they'll come out to each other.
joe rogan
They're probably like, what the fuck is going on?
So in their back foot...
ari shaffir
Yeah, here we go.
joe rogan
Oh, then they're going at each other.
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
And one will start pecking the other one soon.
joe rogan
So they're catching each other with these feet and slicing them apart.
ari shaffir
That's their normal way of fighting, too.
See, the other one's fucked.
That one is fucked.
joe rogan
Oh my god, yeah.
ari shaffir
He's down.
joe rogan
It's dead.
ari shaffir
They stop it.
unidentified
Oh my god, they must be both mangled though.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he takes his blood.
joe rogan
Oh, they peck at him.
ari shaffir
The ref has to choose when it's over.
He's called it.
Is it dead?
joe rogan
Wow.
Dude, that rooster got fucked up.
ari shaffir
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Look how fast that is.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
So you don't even see really how it's like barbaric.
It's just quick and over.
joe rogan
Do you think that...
Yeah, because they're covering all those feathers.
ari shaffir
And then they eat that one tonight.
joe rogan
Do they?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
So where I saw the winner, the owner of the winner gets to eat the loser.
They take it home with him on their bike.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
And they're eating chicken tonight.
joe rogan
How weird.
And do you think that rooster fights again?
ari shaffir
I saw them sewing a rooster up.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
They said he gets two months off, gets to live a fun life for a while, and then he'll be back in fighting.
So sometimes the winners get nothing happen to them, sometimes they get a little fucked too.
unidentified
Jesus.
ari shaffir
Sometimes they both die.
joe rogan
These are the rooster houses?
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
But wait a minute, that looks like a doghouse.
This looks like what they do with pits.
Is that really roosters?
That's crazy.
ari shaffir
Oh, they're on top of it.
And they sleep under it if it rains?
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess so.
The places where they fight dogs, they'll have like a giant yard and they'll have like 10 dogs plus out there on chains.
And they're all connected to these little tiny houses just like that.
It's really creepy because they're...
They're not really dogs.
I mean, they're dogs in the sense of the actual animal they are as dogs, but they're these things...
ari shaffir
Not pet-like at all.
joe rogan
No, there's no pet to them.
They're these things that have been...
They're just bred to fight.
And I'm sure they can handle them.
You know, I'm sure there's like a few commands they understand.
But their life is not about being pet and loved and climbing on the bed.
ari shaffir
They're like Khaleesi's Army.
What's their name?
What are they called, Jamie?
unidentified
I don't know.
ari shaffir
Those ones with the tics cut off.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
What do they call themselves?
They were just slaves trained to fight.
joe rogan
They're eunuchs, but that's not what they call themselves.
ari shaffir
The Chicago something?
joe rogan
No.
God damn it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, fuck.
That show needs to come back.
joe rogan
It takes a while.
The Unsullied?
Unsullied.
ari shaffir
Unsullied, the Unsullied, yeah.
Yeah, that's what those dogs are.
They're like Unsullied.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they just, they have their dicks and balls, though.
The unsullied, the problem with those guys is they've been neutered so they can't fight that good because they don't have any testosterone.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
These dogs have everything.
They're ready to rock and roll.
They just live to fight.
And that moment that they get to fight is like the only thing they're looking forward to.
And they're brief and like really miserable existence.
So the more they exercise them, the more they...
Just train him and get him ramped up.
They're just prepping him for this one moment where he gets to do what he actually wants to do.
ari shaffir
What he's made to do in life.
joe rogan
It's not even his fault.
It's like that dog's bred that way.
They've encouraged that behavior, like, generation after generation, by careful selection, culling dogs that don't fit the criteria.
Like, it's one of the reasons why people love pit bulls so much.
Like, once you have a pit bull, other dogs seem so dumb.
ari shaffir
Because they're so smart?
joe rogan
They're so tuned into you.
And they're like...
Remember Squeaky Fromm?
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
She was like a little demon.
She was like tuned into me and she would lock onto me.
But if any other dog got anywhere near her and tried to take my attention, she would kill it in front of me.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
She would just want it dead.
It's like, get the fuck away from him!
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're very intense and tuned into you.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
And a lot of people like it.
Well, I got her.
She was already a...
She was a pound dog.
I got her.
She was like 11 months old.
She was cut up.
She had definitely been in some sort of a fight, whether it's an organized one or something.
But she was a mess from the moment I got her.
She was just such a cute little dog.
And loved you to death.
Just couldn't leave you alone.
Want to sit right next to you, put her head in your lap.
Just a big sweetie.
Just the sweetest dog ever.
But like, these eyes.
There's like, they had like, ready to die for you eyes.
ari shaffir
Is that the one you had to put down?
joe rogan
Yeah.
She killed my other dog.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's not good.
ari shaffir
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The nature is not their fault.
I mean, they've essentially been selected over many, many, many, many generations to be incredibly dog aggressive, incredibly prey-driven, and almost impervious to reacting to pain.
That's what's so terrifying about them, is that they don't care.
They like to fight.
They're not worried about getting hurt.
They're looking forward to this.
They want to do it.
They're wagging their tail and they're biting each other.
It's crazy.
They wag their tails.
They're locked faces on each other, and their tails are wagging back and forth.
Like they're having the greatest time.
ari shaffir
I saw a thing for some, like, OC County fair.
They train their dogs to do tricks and shit.
And they said they've gotten to the point where, this reminds me of this, where the treat they get for crashing the Frisbee eventually becomes the Frisbee.
So, like, they're trying to catch, like, cool, I got to grab that frisbee.
Thank you.
And I can throw it again.
So, like, I got to grab the frisbee again.
You know?
Instead of, like, I got the frisbee so I can get this fucking piece of meat.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
ari shaffir
So it seems like those dogs, too, it's like, oh, I did the task.
Thank you for letting me do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's what I wanted to do.
joe rogan
They get those working dogs.
You ever been around like a real working German Shepherd?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Dude, they're so intense.
They're like a live wire.
First of all, they're like a real big German Shepherd.
It's probably like...
I want to say like 90 pounds.
Google what's a big German Shepherd.
It's not the hugest dog in the world.
They're not like a Mastiff.
But they are so fast and they're so taut.
unidentified
They're just like fucking ready to go.
joe rogan
Ready to go and looking at you.
And this dude was demonstrating different...
He trains dogs for the police department.
He was demonstrating different things.
71 pounds is a big one.
Oh, adult male, 88 pounds.
So yeah, close to 90 pounds.
ari shaffir
I got attacked by one of those wearing a suit once.
joe rogan
Dude!
ari shaffir
It's so strong.
joe rogan
Oh, they're so strong.
ari shaffir
They just keep wriggling your hand until you're on the ground.
joe rogan
They're just so fast.
And you've got to think.
ari shaffir
They're so fast.
They're on you.
They let them go, like, jump.
joe rogan
Now think that, right?
That's a 90-pound animal.
Now think of a wolf.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Double that.
ari shaffir
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Double that and have it more athletic, stronger, much harder bite.
ari shaffir
You ever seen a wolf in the wild?
joe rogan
No.
Almost.
I think I might have, but it was so dark, I could only see that it was some sort of a dog-like creature that was running across the dirt road ahead of us while we were in hunting camp waiting to get picked up.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Nervous!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
A little bit.
Yeah, when you're standing outside in grizzly country and there's wolves.
ari shaffir
So you can't wander off to go piss.
joe rogan
No fucking way.
ari shaffir
You all have to be together.
joe rogan
You have to be together and you both have to be paying attention.
And you should talk.
And since it's out, it's late at night, you don't have to even worry about whispering.
Like, you're not trying to scare anything, you're trying to let things know that you're there.
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
So they're not surprised by you.
joe rogan
Not surprised by you.
They hear you coming.
They can avoid you if they choose to.
But if something decides that it's gonna come towards you, look at the size of these wolves.
ari shaffir
Goddamn.
joe rogan
Dude, if you saw a wolf in the woods...
unidentified
They killed it.
ari shaffir
I wouldn't even trust that would think it was dead.
joe rogan
I know.
ari shaffir
I'd be like, ah, man.
joe rogan
Look at the size of these things.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
These are enormous wolves.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's the dead one?
The one in the top middle?
joe rogan
You know what's really interesting?
These wolves that you're seeing, although they're all just wolves, these wolves are wolves from Canada.
And it's one of the reasons why they're so big.
One of the reasons why they've been so devastating to elk populations and deer populations.
ari shaffir
Oh, look at that one's got deer in his mouth.
Half a fucking carcass.
joe rogan
Yeah, a leg.
ari shaffir
Just a leg with a...
Dude.
He looks thin, too.
joe rogan
They're so powerful.
They're just incredibly powerful, incredibly cunning killers that act in packs.
ari shaffir
And love the snow.
joe rogan
They love it.
They can do shit in the snow where other animals are fucked.
Like, they can run through the snow.
They thrive in ridiculous cold environments.
Because that's when other animals are vulnerable.
And they can wreak havoc on them.
They're a crazy animal, man.
But they look like a dog.
So we have this weird connection with them.
Where we think of them as dogs.
Like, it's our friend.
It's Mr. Fluffy.
ari shaffir
Because they're shaped the same way.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ari shaffir
I mean, they do look nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And when you see them alone, you're like, oh, if that was, you know, with no scale.
joe rogan
If I can remember, I'll tell you this bit I'm doing about it.
About wolves.
It was a real encounter I had with a dog and a wolf.
Where a dog met a wolf for the first time.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'll tell you later.
Okay.
But that animal is not the same animal that used to be here.
They killed a bunch of wolves, so they had to reintroduce wolves to try to bring the population back.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
But when they reintroduced wolves, they brought them in from Canada.
They're way bigger.
Canadian moose are bigger.
Canadian people are bigger.
Polar bears.
It's a fucking hardier climate up there, man.
You get a different sort of an animal.
ari shaffir
Oh, they got the wrong ones.
joe rogan
They got a big-ass wolf.
It was way bigger.
ari shaffir
So you can't ever just go off because they'll wait for you to be alone.
joe rogan
Well, they definitely could if they chose to.
Most of the time they avoid the fuck out of people.
They seem to know that if they fuck up and do something to people, then bullets start coming and then everybody dies.
They're smart enough to kind of understand that.
They're not smart.
They wouldn't do anything that you would think would be extraordinary for an animal.
It's not like they have superhuman powers.
But they have an unusual ability to plan and coordinate.
And they talk to each other.
They yell out and talk to each other.
And they give locations.
And they all kind of intuitively understand what the task is.
But when they're operating together, it's pretty stunning to watch, man.
I've watched a bunch of videos.
Never in real life, obviously.
But a bunch of videos of them coordinating an attack on animals.
Dude, it's amazing.
ari shaffir
We heard we're at a...
Which campsite?
Malibu Cook State Park.
joe rogan
You heard coyotes or wolves?
ari shaffir
Coyotes.
But I just like the way they were sort of talking to each other, too.
We saw...
A skunk.
At first, we sort of smelled one, and we heard two coyotes kind of like yelping.
And we're like, they got sprayed by a skunk.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
For sure.
We're just filling this in.
We have no idea.
But it really seemed like that.
Hearing them going, just a couple of them.
And then later, we saw a skunk.
Tried to spray us.
Didn't have much.
We think that's the same skunk that like sprayed out, and now he's got nothing left in the tank.
joe rogan
Does that work like that?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
This is what we all think.
And then, like, a little bit later, this guy kind of, like, came at us, but didn't, like...
He tried to spray.
He got the dog.
My friend Mervis.
Do you know Mervis?
joe rogan
I think so.
ari shaffir
Front bartender.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay.
ari shaffir
They got his dog, but just, like, a little bit.
joe rogan
Just bit it?
ari shaffir
No, just like with a little bit of like spray, but like not much.
Not enough where it was like terrible.
Just bad.
And then we heard like 10 or 15 coyotes all howling.
joe rogan
They'll bite you too, right?
A skunk's a predator.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he was coming out of his bare teeth and stuff.
joe rogan
I had a skunk trying to get into my chicken coop.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and then I read about him like that's one of the things they eat.
They'll eat chickens.
ari shaffir
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the spray is for self-defense, not offense.
joe rogan
Wow.
But they'll fuck you up.
Imagine getting fucked up by a skunk.
Like, he fucks you up and you smell like shit.
ari shaffir
And you have to, like, heal your wounds and nobody wants to help you.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, imagine if, like, you got in a fizz fight with a skunk in your backyard and he zaps you and then bites the fuck out of you.
ari shaffir
Scraped up and rabies.
joe rogan
And he jumps over your fence and you run inside, you're covered in blood and you're like, oh my god, this skunk bit the fuck out of my face.
unidentified
And your wife's like, get up!
ari shaffir
Out of here!
unidentified
You smell like shit.
ari shaffir
Get away!
joe rogan
She doesn't even care.
Oh my god, you have to wash yourself outside.
It's cold outside.
ari shaffir
Get out!
joe rogan
You smell like skunk.
Oh my god, I'm never gonna clean this up.
Oh my god, this house is gonna smell like skunk forever.
I'm so mad at you.
You're mad at me?
I got fucked up by a skunk.
Imagine a skunk biting your dick.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a skunk.
ari shaffir
Oh, you're like this.
You love fucking creatures.
On my trip, I saw Komodo dragons.
joe rogan
Oh, in the flesh?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Out in the wild?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
You went hunting them.
Not to kill, but just to find them.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
To what?
ari shaffir
What?
I found out later you're not supposed to do that.
unidentified
Jesus Christ, boy.
ari shaffir
But I didn't know, man.
I was real close and I just touched one.
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude, that's so scary.
ari shaffir
He was sort of walking away and it was like, it's so close.
And I was like, just grabbed.
Yeah, they had these guys with weird pointed like V-sticks, like long sticks with like a little tip at the end that like can like put...
It's weird, but this one guy we had was like way into snakes and reptiles and shit.
He's like, let's go hunt.
Let's go find them.
We went out into the brush.
joe rogan
I wonder if a Komodo dragon was the inspiration for that thing that the alien would do from the movie Ridley Scott movie Alien where it would open its mouth and all the slime and everything.
ari shaffir
They have all this bacteria in their mouths.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Like supposedly if you get bit you're still gonna lose your leg.
joe rogan
We've gone over this at least twice and I always forget which it is.
That they used to think that it was a toxin and now they think it's bacteria or they used to think it was bacteria and now they think it's a toxin.
ari shaffir
Well, I read bacteria.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like a botulism.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's something...
ari shaffir
Lots of different types of bacteria in their saliva.
joe rogan
And it's toxic.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they know it.
And so they'll bite an animal and fuck it up and then they'll follow it around.
So I was reading this thing about a water buffalo that this Komodo dragon attacked.
They saw it bite it and then it followed it for like two days.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Just waiting for it to croak.
ari shaffir
Oh, so this guy I met in somewhere deep in...
Okay, so it's the island of Flores.
Is where you can sort of like be?
joe rogan
That's where the Hobbit people were.
ari shaffir
Flores?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
In Indonesia?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What do you mean the Hobbit people?
joe rogan
There's little Hobbit people that they discovered.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Dude, they discovered that within the last...
Shit, I want to say 14,000 years ago?
Is that what it was?
Within the last 14,000 years, somewhere in that range, humans shared time on Earth with another kind of human being.
This little tiny three-foot-tall human being that had completely different features than us.
Yeah, really conscious.
Homo floriensis or florensis.
ari shaffir
And that was the flora.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
12,000 years ago.
joe rogan
12,000 years ago, yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's nothing.
joe rogan
Okay, that's nothing.
12,000 years ago.
Like, I'm...
I mean, I'm trying to imagine that those people were just like us 12,000 years ago, and they were a tiny little thing, almost like a cross between a human and a chimp.
They don't really know exactly what their skin color was or what they look like.
ari shaffir
They put it next to a drawing of a full-grown, like, now man, and he's shredded.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's jacked.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm gonna fuck this little thing.
ari shaffir
Perfect muscles, doesn't ever eat fast food.
joe rogan
Throw some dick into this little critter.
Wow.
There was even speculation that they had eaten humans or attacked humans.
ari shaffir
Do you think they bred with us and that's why they're shorter out in Asia?
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
No?
joe rogan
That's what it looks like.
See that one, the drawing on the far left, Jamie, with the guy holding the spear?
That's what they think he looked like.
There's a full-sized version of that.
See if you can find that.
Oh, Jesus.
So these were like almost like what we were like, I guess, when we were on our way up the food chain.
ari shaffir
And they just developed differently, so they sort of stayed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wow.
Australopithecus or something like that, like one of our earliest ancestors.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's real close to Australia.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Australopithecus is like a modern human, but like one of the first versions, I think, I want to say a million years ago, but I'm probably just making that number up.
But, you know, human beings in this form, they don't know the exact number, obviously, but they think we've been around in this form for only about a quarter million years.
Give or take.
jamie vernon
The Komodo dragons have venom.
joe rogan
They do have venom.
Thank you.
Okay, so they used to think it was bacteria, and now they think it was venom.
ari shaffir
I gotta show you this picture.
I saw one on a rock, and you go right behind some leaves and some branches, so you get up close to them, and it's still sort of scary, because you could probably get through the branches, but probably not.
And you can just take a picture from that close, all the saliva's coming out.
I'll show you this at the store one night.
joe rogan
Can you imagine the horror that you would feel if a kimono dragon was clamped down on your calf and you felt all that hot poison going into your body and you were trying to get away and you broke free with a big chunk taken out of your calf and it's about to leap on you and you're trying to run away with a limp.
You're hobbling away and screaming no and no and running through the bushes and you look back and you see it just taking its time walking towards you.
ari shaffir
Three of them coming towards you.
joe rogan
Taking its time because it knows it doesn't have to chase you.
ari shaffir
Just tracks you.
joe rogan
Because you can't go far.
You're all fucked up now.
ari shaffir
So wait.
Oh yeah.
There they are.
joe rogan
So beautiful.
And you know eventually it's going to catch you sick and shivering and it's just going to start eating your asshole first.
ari shaffir
They get these things.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just bite him in the legs and shit.
But they gotta be careful they don't get stomped.
ari shaffir
He smells with his tongue.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
They use the tongue to smell.
joe rogan
What a creepy fucking creature.
ari shaffir
A giant...
Yeah, so these buffalo, they're not natural to the area.
unidentified
Look at that.
ari shaffir
They've been added in.
joe rogan
So they don't know what the fuck this- Oh, they've been added in to feed them?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Oh my god!
So they grow and shit, but then they die.
So they go to the watering hole, and the Komodo dragons know that they're gonna go to the watering hole, and they just fucking wait for him.
joe rogan
And so he jacked him on the leg, and then he's slowly making his way towards him.
Imagine if that was you, and you had to see that thing walking up the bank towards you.
ari shaffir
Some guy got killed.
joe rogan
You'd be like, no, I'm a person.
You're not supposed to eat me.
I can think and I can reason and I'm progressive and I have health insurance.
I have two credit cards.
ari shaffir
They killed a kid.
joe rogan
I have to call someone.
Don't eat me yet.
I have to make a call.
Hold on, let me get this text.
Don't eat me yet.
ari shaffir
I have to check my Facebook.
joe rogan
Don't fucking eat me!
unidentified
I'm checking Twitter!
ari shaffir
Look, there's a bunch of them around that one.
joe rogan
Just going asshole first.
And you're feeling all the blood rush out of your body while this creepy lizard's chewing on your butt.
ari shaffir
They eat everything except those boar's heads because of the horns.
Really?
That's not a boar, I mean an ox.
If they get a boar, they finish the skulls too.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
They eat the skulls?
ari shaffir
Everything.
So just those fucking, what they're called, heads are the only ones left because of the horns.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
ari shaffir
Fuck them up on the inside.
joe rogan
So they eat the bones?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they killed the kid.
They ate his stomach out.
He went to pee, but alone.
And they're like, oh, this one's by himself.
So this guy I met in Flores, in DeFlores, his guide found a boar that had been bitten and was dying in the bushes.
And so he was like, hey, you guys want to see some shit?
So this boar was kind of like, uh, like this, the venom had started to catch up.
And he took him, he dragged him to the watering hole and he threw it in there.
And they just ripped the shreds in front of them.
He showed me this video he made.
It was so fucking cool.
joe rogan
Jesus.
What is, look at the size of the bone that guy's eating.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're all on something.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
Look at that.
joe rogan
There's something about them.
The cold, unfeeling look in their eyes, like when he opens his mouth and you see all those teeth.
ari shaffir
Saliva.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
But that eye.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that's a real creature.
ari shaffir
All black.
joe rogan
That's a thinking creature that's trying to eat you.
It's trying to eat either you or a buffalo.
It eats a water buffalo, man.
It doesn't use knives.
It's not using...
There's no fork.
There's no bullets.
It's eating a goddamn water buffalo.
ari shaffir
So we're going through waist-high grass trying to find these things.
And then you see one pop its head up.
It's there!
And you've got to get behind it and try to force it down the mountain.
joe rogan
No!
ari shaffir
But there's other ones around, so you've got to stay close, keep your eyes up.
It was pretty cool, man.
You would love that.
No, I wouldn't.
You're into monsters like that.
joe rogan
You would love that.
I'd be terrified.
I don't want to be around them, man.
Why are you around them?
ari shaffir
Oh, it was so cool.
Well, I found out when I was in Bali and I was like, I'll probably go to somewhere else from there.
And then this guy from Jakarta was like, you know, you're right next to the Komodo dragons.
You can do that.
I was like, what?
That's here?
And it was just a couple of boats and you're fucking there.
joe rogan
Wow.
Dude, fuck that.
ari shaffir
No, man.
joe rogan
What if they got you?
ari shaffir
You would love it.
joe rogan
They almost got Sharon...
What's her name?
Sharon Stone?
Sharon Stone's husband?
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What do you mean they almost got him?
joe rogan
He was a newspaper man.
He was like a reporter.
ari shaffir
And?
joe rogan
Or a journalist, rather.
And he went to do something in a cage with Komodo dragons and he had socks on.
And the fucking thing thought it's white foot.
It was a zoo.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
And he went and got him?
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Bit his foot.
Bit the fuck out of his foot.
Dude went to the hospital.
ari shaffir
Crushing his big toe while thrashing his body around.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What?
He had to undergo foot surgery.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, it was a shoeless foot.
Oh, I thought it was a sock.
Crushing his big toe.
Ouchie, wah-wah.
Oh, the zookeeper asked him to remove his white tennis shoes to keep the five-foot-long reptile from mistaking them for white rats.
It's like, hey, yo, dude, take your shoes off.
You'll be cool.
Don't worry about it.
As long as it knows...
ari shaffir
And then they attack that foot.
It's like, why'd you tell me to take the shoe off?
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
ari shaffir
At least I had a shoe on.
joe rogan
The feeling he must have had as that thing is biting his foot.
ari shaffir
Natsuki must have been like, I'm really sorry about that.
joe rogan
He had severed tendons.
They had to reattach severed tendons and rebuild his big toe that was crushed by the dragon's jaws.
ari shaffir
Jesus.
joe rogan
You have to piss again?
ari shaffir
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Hey, do you have enough room in that?
ari shaffir
I have enough room.
This has got to be a half one.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
You sure?
ari shaffir
Yeah, but there's only a little bit left because I had to pitch it back in.
joe rogan
Don't overspill.
Don't overflow.
unidentified
I won't overflow.
joe rogan
You're peeing.
Professional this man, but here's the thing about animals like kimono dragons and wolves.
I love the fact that they're real.
Yeah, it's one of the things that makes life Fascinating is that there are these Ruthless merciless predators Jamie's shielding his eyes from Harry's dick.
unidentified
Oh The image want to just put the image on me for a second educational You don't want to show his Jamie, could you get away with doing this on YouTube or Instagram?
joe rogan
We might be in trouble just because we mentioned that you're peeing.
unidentified
What?
That level of censorship on the internet?
No way.
joe rogan
Here's the deal, dude.
Do you know that if you whipped your dick out and took a leak in front of a school, you'd be charged as a sex molester?
ari shaffir
Dude, I do that all the time, and thank you for telling me because I will stop.
joe rogan
Yeah, for real.
Like, say if you're walking past the school and you're like, God, I gotta take a leak, and you just innocently walk towards a patch of trees, and you piss there, and someone from the school calls the police.
ari shaffir
Because you had your dick out?
joe rogan
You have your dick out in front of a school.
ari shaffir
You can't go like, oh, come on, guys, you know what I was doing.
joe rogan
I know a dude who got charged with that.
ari shaffir
I know somebody who, well, we both know somebody who was hooking up with a girl on school property late at night.
They needed a place to pull over so they could fuck in the car.
joe rogan
Oh.
ari shaffir
But since it was on school property.
But it was fucking 2 a.m., you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're trying to discourage that.
ari shaffir
Well, yeah, I get that.
They don't want her condoms thrown out the window.
joe rogan
Just showing up for school in the morning, dropping your kid off.
Your kid slips and breaks her hip because she stepped on a condom.
Those little shiny school shoes that kids wear with the hard bottoms don't get good traction.
Whoop!
jamie vernon
So aren't there rules about doing stuff within a thousand feet of school?
ari shaffir
Yeah, stuff like that.
jamie vernon
There's so many schools in Hollywood.
There's gotta be so much shit happening within a thousand feet of them.
joe rogan
Wasn't that one of the issues, too, with pot shops?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, they can't open up, that's how they, yeah, fucked with them, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You can't be anywhere near this or that.
joe rogan
School or church.
The church part's hilarious.
ari shaffir
It's like, uh-huh.
joe rogan
If that's really the case.
I wonder if that really is still the case.
But I get it, though.
If you really believed and you really believed that your church was sacred and important to you, you wouldn't want, like, one door down.
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe not one door down, but it's not all churches.
They're not the ones with the lawns like you see in the movies.
A lot of them in L.A. are just, like, in between two apartment buildings.
joe rogan
But also the question is, who gets to choose?
Who gets to choose that?
How much distance between a church and a liquor store?
I want to know, is selling liquor okay?
Is it okay?
It seems like it's okay.
It seems like a lot of people are doing it.
It seems like a lot of people are buying it.
It seems like we all agree.
Okay?
So if it is the case, A thousand foot radius.
ari shaffir
Radius of a church.
Pull that up.
Go ahead.
jamie vernon
Other rules in Detroit.
joe rogan
What does it say?
Shops are also prohibited from operating within a thousand foot radius of a church, school, park, liquor stores, or other dispensary or a drug free zone such as a library.
jamie vernon
Hmm.
ari shaffir
They also must close by 8pm.
joe rogan
Other dispensary.
Liquor to store.
Other dispensary.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
ari shaffir
This is a result of people going, well, I don't want them right next to this while I'm doing that.
joe rogan
But this is saying that they can't be close to a liquor store.
Like, a liquor store is the same as a church.
That's what they're saying.
ari shaffir
Weird, you're right.
joe rogan
They're saying a pot shop can't be the alternative to a business that's already established.
ari shaffir
Oh, like a liquor store.
joe rogan
That's what they're saying.
ari shaffir
Don't quit booze.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they're saying you can't be...
So, the liquor stores must have lobbied to have that put in there.
They must have figured out a way.
Is there a liquor store union?
jamie vernon
There's a state liquor board, so yeah.
I mean...
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, there's obviously...
That doesn't make sense.
Like, the church makes sense, reluctantly.
I get it, though.
It makes sense.
unidentified
The school...
ari shaffir
The liquor store doesn't make sense at all, you're right.
joe rogan
The school makes sense.
The liquor store doesn't make any sense.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, why can't I just walk right next door after I buy some weed and buy a beer?
Why do I have to go 500 feet further?
jamie vernon
They don't have them here, but in Ohio, they still drive through alcohol places.
joe rogan
They have them in Phoenix.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Louisiana.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's places where you can drive through and they'll give you mixed drinks.
ari shaffir
Mixed drinks?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's like, how are you going to justify it?
I'm not having this later.
joe rogan
Drive-thru bar.
It's my passenger's drink.
I wouldn't drink and drive, officer.
jamie vernon
I don't think I looked that up.
Your passengers can drink.
ari shaffir
Only the driver can.
joe rogan
Louisiana's on another level.
New Orleans is on a totally different level.
Were you with me in New Orleans when we had this driver?
For sure not.
We had this driver who's hilarious, a funny fucking dude.
I wish I could remember his name, but he was cool as shit.
We had him for a couple of days.
And when we're hanging out with this dude, he was telling me that he got pulled over outside of New Orleans because he was walking on the street with an open beer.
I forget where he was, some other city.
And they pulled him over.
And he had two beers in a paper bag.
And when they pulled him over, he was talking to the cop.
The cop's like, where are you from?
And he's talking to the cop.
He pulls out the other beer and cracks it open and starts drinking it.
And the cop's like, is there something fucking wrong with your head?
And he's like, what?
He goes, where are you from?
He goes, New Orleans.
He goes, oh, okay.
ari shaffir
Oh, you don't know.
That's not allowed in other places.
joe rogan
You can't do that anywhere else.
And he's like, for real?
ari shaffir
He's like, why?
I'm not doing anything wrong.
I'm just walking.
joe rogan
I forget where he was, but he was outside of New Orleans for sure.
But he was saying that he had no idea that you couldn't crack open a beer and start drinking in front of a cop when he's asking questions.
He's like, in my mind, I haven't done nothing.
ari shaffir
That's the best about Southeast Asia.
You get a beer, you walk with it like a fucking free American.
You're just like out there.
You're not going to do anything.
Have a good time, man.
joe rogan
There's too many dumb young dudes that would bring drinks and splash them on people and be walking on the street with open beers and be goofy.
ari shaffir
I guess so.
Maybe just here.
joe rogan
Maybe here.
But London's got a little bit of that.
ari shaffir
They drink outside?
No, maybe not in the streets.
They drink like in outdoor pubs.
joe rogan
I've seen it in England, with people boozed up on the streets, beating the shit out of each other.
ari shaffir
Well, yeah, I mean, that's gonna happen, sure.
But it's like, don't put yourself in a position where you have to fight all the time.
joe rogan
I wonder what the argument is for...
ari shaffir
It's not about drinking outdoors or not.
It's about, like, don't drink so much.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, don't get so drunk that you can't control yourself.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but you can do that in one space, or you can walk and do it.
That doesn't matter.
joe rogan
I wonder what the argument is for a 2 a.m.
unidentified
like...
ari shaffir
Cut-off time?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's over.
ari shaffir
It's all Christian shit, dude.
unidentified
Is it?
ari shaffir
It's all remnants of Christian shit.
Who cares?
Why can't we just be up longer?
jamie vernon
Miami, it's like 5 a.m.
ari shaffir
New York, it's 4 or later.
A lot of places, it's not.
I've heard they're going to change it to L.A. to 4. Four?
Yeah.
I heard they're about to change that.
unidentified
Maybe not.
joe rogan
The Comedy Store is super weird.
ari shaffir
They'll still close it, too.
You don't have to be up until then.
joe rogan
Why?
ari shaffir
Yeah, good point.
joe rogan
There's guys who want to go up.
ari shaffir
Good point.
joe rogan
We could have some weird-ass shows, man.
I might do a 2 a.m.
set.
If they ever do that, I might book myself for a 2 a.m.
set.
ari shaffir
Dude, the Comedy Cellar.
I go up a lot after 2 a.m.
to packed rooms.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Packed.
I mean, like, what time do those shows start?
They start late, but they're supposed to start at like 11.30?
And I'm up at like 145, too.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
And it's just like...
unidentified
And it's hot.
ari shaffir
It's still a great crowd, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, if those are the kind of people that are up...
ari shaffir
Yeah, sure.
Come on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of people that are on different schedules.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
A place like New York, you can find 150 of them.
ari shaffir
You can go up at 11.30 p.m.
and start my night.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
And you'll still have a great long time.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And people in New York, like, they fucking go hard.
ari shaffir
They go so hard.
joe rogan
There's so much drinking in New York.
ari shaffir
You meet people at their show, and it's not like giving me a number.
It's like, let's go somewhere right now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Let's just go to a bar.
There's 30 within walking distance.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Let's just talk.
joe rogan
Let's go somewhere.
You know, Duncan had Greg Fitzsimmons on his podcast this week, and I've only listened to the first 10 minutes or so, but Duncan was talking about how different New York is in terms of diversity and all the different cultures and people.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's liking it.
I've seen him a couple times.
It's been pretty fun, man.
Just be able to booze up and not have to worry about getting home.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He loves it.
ari shaffir
I walk home from the stand, he takes a cab, you know, it's the normal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is he living in Brooklyn?
ari shaffir
He's living in Brooklyn.
joe rogan
Of course he is, that fucking hippie.
ari shaffir
No, that's right for him, for sure.
joe rogan
That's the spot.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he was a Silver Lake kid, and then he went to, he's doing the same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's in like Williamsburg, right?
ari shaffir
I think Park Slope.
joe rogan
Same shit, isn't it?
ari shaffir
No, Williamsburg's past, like, it's over-gentrified.
joe rogan
Oh, it's gone too far.
ari shaffir
So not only rich kids with style can afford it.
joe rogan
Ooh, I like it.
I might move in.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's my style.
Yeah.
I was watching one of those house flipper shows.
Yeah.
What is the real estate?
Million Dollar Listing, that's what it's called.
unidentified
Million Dollar Listing in New York.
joe rogan
And they had a house that was for sale in Brooklyn.
They built like a Georgia mansion in Brooklyn in like 1920. And they were trying to put mansions, like southern style mansions, in Brooklyn.
It's like an 11,000 square foot house.
ari shaffir
I can't afford Williamsburg.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I thought I had to go there because I wouldn't be able to afford Manhattan.
And then I found out when I got there, I'm like, oh no, no.
Manhattan's cheaper now.
The cool parts of Manhattan where I live, it's cheaper.
unidentified
Jesus.
ari shaffir
Than the cool parts of Brooklyn.
joe rogan
Why is that?
ari shaffir
This gentrification has this path.
At first you have...
Bad neighborhoods.
We're not talking about warehouse gentrifying.
That's different.
But like, you know, ethnic gentrifying.
Actually, both.
So first you have criminals or warehouses.
And then the people who are cool artists who have no money, they'll move in.
They can get a giant loft for basically nothing because you've got to worry about getting stabbed or having nothing around you.
They start adding the art to the area, making it more interesting.
Then people like Duncan and me come in.
Where we're like, we like it.
I'm not going to be the front lines of this shit.
I need some place to go get some food.
But there's still criminals around or lack of stuff.
And then the rich people who don't have style of their own, they move in and co-opt the other people's style.
And then you start getting too many coffee shops.
Then they start changing the laws to drive out the people who live there.
There's a park where they all camped out in Gowanus.
And every Sunday they would cook out there.
And they started saying, the rich people were like, the smoke is going to my windows.
So he started making laws about how you can't have cookouts.
And that pretty much just drove out the people who wanted to have that as part of their life.
You don't make the laws saying it's illegal to be ethnic, but you make laws around it.
joe rogan
Dude, there's a park down the street from here that we could go to.
It's like only a couple minutes away.
And if you go there on the weekends...
It's like a festival.
It's like people use those barbecue crates that they have out there.
They get down.
They set up picnic tables.
They lay out a cloth on the picnic tables and paper cups and shit.
And they got coolers.
They're pouring like Kool-Aid and shit.
They're cooking all kinds of different things on these racks.
And there's like maybe five, six families spread out in these areas that are doing that.
And then these kids are playing and everybody's running around.
It's a lot of people that live in apartments that don't have a lot.
They don't have a big backyard.
So now they just go to the park.
ari shaffir
It's great.
joe rogan
It's great.
And there's like this sense of community.
Everybody's laughing.
They got music playing.
People are drinking.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you allowed to drink booze in the park?
How's that work?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
I know tailgating, you gotta use cans.
You can't use bottles.
joe rogan
But if you're sitting there on a picnic.
ari shaffir
I think you can.
joe rogan
Can you?
ari shaffir
I think maybe it's look the other way kind of stuff, if anything.
joe rogan
That would suck.
ari shaffir
I mean, you've got to be able to have a beer.
joe rogan
You're having a cheeseburger in the park.
ari shaffir
That's how I mean.
Some of these freedom laws are like, I'm not going to do anything, man.
Let me have a beer with my family.
This doesn't hurt anybody.
Well, if everyone did that, you're going to have drawings.
I'm like, yeah, but that's not me.
I'm not that, so let me do it.
joe rogan
What kind of diseases can you get from one of them park grills?
Who's cleaning that grill?
ari shaffir
Dude, one of the best barbecues I ever had was on top of, in Vail, on top of the mountain.
So we were skiing, I was skiing with his chef, and he had a bunch of fucking chicken in his back, marinating in one of those bags.
What?
joe rogan
While he was skiing?
ari shaffir
Yeah, so he kept shaking it up.
He's snowboarding, hitting jumps.
He's just marinating his chicken.
And then he's like, hey, you want to eat with us?
I'm like, yeah, sure.
He's like, oh, no.
I was going into the restaurant party.
He goes, no, no, out here.
Just use that thing.
And it's just grilled fucking chicken up on top of fucking the Rockies.
It was so good.
joe rogan
So did he have like a little grill in his pack, too?
ari shaffir
No, they had the public grill up there.
joe rogan
Oh, that thing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he just got some wood and stuck it out of there?
ari shaffir
There was just coals going, I guess.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
ari shaffir
People would like to do that up there.
joe rogan
Those things are so nasty.
ari shaffir
So nasty.
Who's on birds shitting on them?
joe rogan
Nobody's ever cleaning them.
ari shaffir
Nobody's ever cleaned any of those.
joe rogan
But I guess the idea is once the fire gets going, nothing's going to stay alive on it.
ari shaffir
I guess?
joe rogan
Yeah.
When that motherfucker gets red hot to the point where you can sear a steak, nothing's surviving on that.
I mean, isn't that the whole principle behind cast iron pans?
Like you don't really wash a cast iron pan.
unidentified
No, you don't.
joe rogan
You just sort of scratch out everything that's there, throw some water on it.
But like that dark blackness that you get from a cast iron pan, I don't know why, but when I cook on one of those, I feel like a fucking man.
ari shaffir
Cast iron grill, man, it's the best.
joe rogan
I feel like a man.
A cast iron frying pan.
I feel like a man.
If you give me a choice, there's a cast iron pan and some bitch ass fucking tungsten, one of those ones that you could flip a cheeseburger without putting any non-stick.
Those are so gross.
ari shaffir
In Myanmar, they used those non-stick pans, and a lot of that got into your food.
Because they had been cooking that shit for like 10 years on the streets.
joe rogan
Just scratching it.
ari shaffir
Just street cooking.
Just fucking, here you go.
And you're like, shut off to it.
Let's go.
joe rogan
Just eat it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to come out in metal flakes.
My dog ate a packet of glitter.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
And he shit glitter.
unidentified
Shit glitter?
joe rogan
Yeah, he shit glitter.
It's like roped up in his shit.
I was going to take a picture of it and put it on Instagram, but I was thinking it's probably like...
They could probably take that down.
Get mad at you.
For shit.
ari shaffir
I guess.
joe rogan
I bet they could.
I bet there's rules.
You can't show tits on Instagram.
Why?
On Twitter, it seems like you could show people fucking.
ari shaffir
Stavros.
This guy Stavros is a comedian.
He's a fat guy.
Fat, cute, great guy.
He's on my podcast this week.
But like, he used to have...
Yeah.
It was.
But he used to take these naked pictures.
He just liked his big, fat, naked body.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Sometimes you see butt.
Never dick.
And he would just be naked with one foot in front of the other.
They were hilarious pictures.
And Instagram was like, nah.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
He's like, come on.
joe rogan
How rude.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
People wrote blogs about him saying he's body positive.
joe rogan
Instagram deleted a comedian's accountant.
Bring back Stavvy Baby.
Stavvy Baby?
ari shaffir
Stavvy.
joe rogan
Stavvy.
ari shaffir
S-T-A-V-V-Y. Yeah, look how funny those are.
The fucking Marrier Brothers one?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're funny.
You just see a butt cheek.
You don't see his asshole or anything like that.
There's nothing wrong with what he's doing.
Come on, Instagram.
ari shaffir
A sad picture with fucking ice cream over his dick where he dropped one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's funny.
Funny pictures.
Why would that be offensive?
Like, are we that scared of nakedness?
ari shaffir
I had one where I had to pay off a bag of bets on Punch Drunk.
A bag of bets?
Yeah.
We put bets in a hat, and so when you have like a, oh, I think so-and-so's definitely gonna win, you know?
I think Aldo's definitely gonna win.
I think the other guy's definitely gonna win.
And you're like, well, let's pick out of the hat.
So you have to do whatever the bet says.
joe rogan
That's what you have to do.
ari shaffir
Wear a diaper for 24 hours.
No shitting anywhere else or pissing anywhere else except in a diaper.
One change.
One change of diaper.
Yeah, so I had to piss in one, and I did it in the shower, and I took a video of it, and YouTube was like, nope, not allowed.
Well, they were naked.
Wearing a diaper.
Fully wearing.
joe rogan
I think YouTube is super worried.
ari shaffir
I hate that shit.
joe rogan
They're super worried about being able to put ads on things.
You know?
And being able to keep things...
ari shaffir
It's lame, though.
It should be free.
joe rogan
I agree!
But who's got to pay for that infrastructure, son?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
ari shaffir
I guess so.
joe rogan
Can't be showing people fuck.
That would be what YouTube would become.
unidentified
Not fuck!
ari shaffir
Okay, not fuck.
You don't have penetration.
unidentified
Okay, why?
You can't be free.
ari shaffir
You're absolutely right.
Change my opinion.
Absolutely, you should be able to show fucking.
unidentified
Show some sucking dick.
ari shaffir
Yeah, parents, you want to put some blockers on there?
Go ahead.
joe rogan
Do you know the story of that guy Vincent Gallo?
The actor?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Made a movie called Brown Bunny.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, he got full head.
joe rogan
Sucked.
She sucked it.
In Chloe Seventh-day.
And she just blew him on camera.
ari shaffir
So she's second wave gentrification.
When she comes into your town, you know it's about to be.
You're still in it's cool and hip, but the Wall Street people are going to come in soon.
joe rogan
She's second wave?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's first wave?
ari shaffir
Artists, poor artists.
They afford to put up with a crime.
And then they bring a coolness factor to the area.
They use whoever's living there, the indigenous cultures.
joe rogan
Yeah, like what they do in downtown LA, right?
ari shaffir
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
What is that shirt?
What does it say?
ari shaffir
Cold Blue Rebels.
joe rogan
Cold Blue Rebels.
ari shaffir
You know Danny Lucas, the sound guy in the main room?
unidentified
Yes, yes.
ari shaffir
It's his band.
joe rogan
Oh, no shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love Danny.
ari shaffir
It's a zombie rockabilly.
Zombie Billy, I guess.
joe rogan
Zombie rockabilly.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It's a pretty cool band, but I think they're breaking up.
joe rogan
So what's next, Ari Shafir?
ari shaffir
Well, so I got this Netflix double special.
No, I'm good.
July 18th.
I'm building my new hour.
Want to get back in the road and see more places?
I want to see more things.
Yeah, everybody, it's going to be a great double special.
It's going to be really cool.
joe rogan
Now, when you're writing your new shit, like when you're doing it now, are you incorporating experiences that you had when you were on this walkabout?
I love the term walkabout.
ari shaffir
I love the term walkabout as well.
joe rogan
Are you physically writing them?
Or are you having these stories that you're trying to work out on stage?
ari shaffir
I do some of that, but my new hour is not going to be that.
So those will be like side bits.
Mostly I'm kind of hearing what Rollins said, too, about how he does it, and it's like, oh, some time to process it, you know, use it as, like, references and things, instead of, like, bits about that, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
You know where you have, like, just a tagline about something and not the whole bit about something?
Right, right.
So just in terms of, like, yeah, I incorporate it when it comes up, when I start thinking about it.
Bill Burr said it once, where it's like what Segura asked him a long time ago, like, how do you write a new hour?
Like, what do you write about?
He goes, I don't know.
What's on your mind?
What gets you angry?
What gets you, like, riled up when you talk about it to your friends?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Whatever that is.
Write about that.
joe rogan
Burr's got an interesting thing going on, too, because he does that podcast where he rants.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's just him ranting.
So his, like, ranting muscle and his ranting endurance, it's incredible.
ari shaffir
I try to do that in my intros of my podcast.
unidentified
Oh, that's great.
joe rogan
Your intros are great.
ari shaffir
Thank you.
unidentified
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
Really good.
I really love the one about Tom Segura and the bat and his expensive taste now.
It's very, very funny.
And that was your first one back, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, because I left going, like, they're chasing me out of here.
joe rogan
No, your narrations and those things, those are some of my favorite parts of your podcast.
You're breaking down things and getting excited about things, your enthusiasm for these things.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I tried early on to realize, like, oh, this is where ads go.
So I don't want to make it just Addy.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
But like, let's make it actual more content.
And then if you have to throw an ad in there too, fine.
But like, here's going to be some good times as well.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And sometimes I don't even have ads.
I still do fucking 25 minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why not?
ari shaffir
Yeah, why not?
If it's funny.
If it's not, I'll re-record it.
joe rogan
They are funny and it's also, it's a different thing.
Because you're getting a chance to see you sort of unedited, just ranting.
Just thinking about stuff and talking.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Yeah.
Somebody told me one.
I had one after Anderson lost for the first time.
It was just part of a podcast about this girl who cuts herself.
Just talked about that.
But in the beginning, it was almost an hour on what Anderson Silva meant to me as a UFC fan.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
And how it was just this weird way to lose.
I kind of forgot about it now, but it was like...
Yeah, I don't know.
It's fun.
But that went on for so long.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's something that was a real thing to you.
It meant something to you.
That's why it's interesting.
ari shaffir
He was at my first UFC. He fought Chris Lieben, my very first UFC. I saw him become a champion.
He was like my guy.
I was at the fucking five and a half, four and a half round crazy ending to Chael.
I remember being in a ring with you and Dana and fucking Superman.
What's his name?
He won championships at heavyweight and light heavyweight.
Randy Couture.
joe rogan
Superman.
ari shaffir
Whatever his name was.
What do they call him?
joe rogan
The Natural?
ari shaffir
Whatever.
Superman.
joe rogan
I was like, what the fuck is he talking about?
ari shaffir
He looked at me in a way like, I definitely got the wrong name, but whatever it is.
joe rogan
I was trying to figure out a nickname.
Like, who had the nickname Superman?
ari shaffir
Yeah, but we're all in just a ring, and it was like, we're all talking about whatever stuff, and then one at a time, one of us, you could see them, like, thinking about how that fight ended.
Four rounds plus of dominance by one guy, and a last minute fucking triangle out of nowhere to keep this, one of the best champions of all time, still in power.
It was just so fucking nuts!
And you see, one at a time, Randy or somebody, I remember Randy doing it after someone else did it, they would just kind of go off, like you see them thinking about something, and they would just shake their head and go, whoa, my hand!
And you're like, oh, you're thinking about that fucking fight.
It was right in the hallway right afterwards.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
God, it was crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a unique feeling that you get when you're recounting like a crazy event where someone knocks somebody out or chokes somebody out.
You're like, Jesus.
ari shaffir
You got a look on your face.
joe rogan
How many times after the UFCs have we gone to dinner and been like, fuck.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
And I saw Berg get that same look at the comedy store in the front after the baby bird.
At ONA. I saw him from far away talking.
I was like, hey, are you talking about the baby bird?
He goes, yeah.
I can tell.
I can tell the way you're doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, so that's all I'm working on, just building my new hour, and then I can get the fuck out of this garbage dump again.
joe rogan
This garbage dump Los Angeles?
unidentified
Is that what you're saying?
ari shaffir
Yes, Hollywood.
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
How dare you?
joe rogan
This is the place where you've buttered your bread, sir.
ari shaffir
No, I like it.
The business end makes me a little mad sometimes.
joe rogan
The business end.
I think, to be your friend and advisor, Yeah.
I would say it's time to remove yourself from the other side.
You no longer need to negotiate.
ari shaffir
So it's fun to travel and stuff, is what I mean.
I think you're right.
joe rogan
Oh, 100%.
Listen, man, you'll all get along way better when you don't need them.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody will be your friend.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
But anyway, yeah, that's all I'm doing.
Working a new hour.
I'm just going to do it all about Judaism.
joe rogan
All about Judaism?
ari shaffir
I think so.
unidentified
Well, that's a good way to alienate the white supremacist, bro.
joe rogan
You don't even care about the people who hate the Jews.
ari shaffir
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry, guys.
I've been culturally insensitive.
joe rogan
You're not even thinking about them.
ari shaffir
I don't know.
What are you working on?
joe rogan
We never found that video of the evergreen professor throwing his hands around.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon
There's one video I'm pretty sure it's in, but I need to double-check and listen to make sure it's the part they're talking about because it was getting highlighted as it.
joe rogan
Someone sent it to me, and they sent it queued up right where it is, and it's so hilarious.
There's probably...
You know what?
It's queued up in a website.
If you Google evergreen...
What is he?
The President?
Evergreen?
Oh, in Evergreen, hand motions are a microaggression.
Google that.
ari shaffir
Hand motions are a microaggression.
joe rogan
There's a website for sure that has an article where they show the video and they have it queued up.
And when it's queued up, you can see the kids laughing when they get the teacher to put his hands behind his back.
ari shaffir
That's them just not knowing.
Well, I'll see it.
But that's them not understanding what they really are looking for.
joe rogan
They're just looking for power.
ari shaffir
Because part of them feels like, haha, I made you do it.
And another part says, that's a microaggression, don't do that.
But it's like, if you believe that, then don't laugh at someone for not doing it anymore.
joe rogan
What they're doing is just enjoying power.
These kids have taken over the school.
Yeah, that's it.
Give me some volume.
unidentified
Don't point.
That's not appropriate.
Listen.
You gotta put your hands down.
joe rogan
He's apologizing.
unidentified
Put your hands down.
Are you kidding?
Yes, Mike!
Yes, Mike!
joe rogan
The dude walks up to the president's like, put your hands down.
ari shaffir
Put your hands down.
Put his hands to his side.
joe rogan
Yes.
Dude.
unidentified
and they're laughing at him. - The thing is that my ancestors were slaves and your ancestors were not.
Your ancestors came here of free choice and decided to bring along my people, not of their own free will, to work and build this country.
- My dad came after the Israeli army. - Just letting you know that slavery still has repercussions in society today.
And that is what we're here about.
She's waiting for an applause.
joe rogan
Yeah, she seems to not know.
Oh, there she goes, trying to get off.
And what does he do about that?
He's clapping as well?
He's clapping too.
He needs to seriously stop.
He's clapping too.
Like, you had a really good point.
ari shaffir
You can't...
joe rogan
She's saying something we know.
ari shaffir
We already know that.
Okay, that version of that, that super-liberal left is feminist.
joe rogan
That version of that?
ari shaffir
There's a version of that, which is just the feminists.
Like that version of feminists.
joe rogan
That version.
Yeah, there's versions of everything.
ari shaffir
The bloggers and the...
joe rogan
There's versions of masculinists, too, right?
ari shaffir
That's the alt-right, I guess.
joe rogan
Is it though?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
I don't really understand.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Seems to me like the alt-right for more than a lot of what they're doing is having fun.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it does seem like I'm trolling.
Some of it's like just straight trolling.
joe rogan
There's a lot of it is...
unidentified
You said this!
I can't believe it!
ari shaffir
It's like, can't you believe it?
Well, maybe it was a joke.
joe rogan
I mean, like Milo...
ari shaffir
I know some of it.
joe rogan
Milo Yiannopoulos?
Surely there's...
ari shaffir
That guy gets him so mad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Milo is so theatrical.
So much of what he's doing seems like he's having fun.
ari shaffir
Dude, I love it when they get on somebody and you just shit on them a little bit.
Someone's a god to them all of a sudden.
Beyonce after Lemonade.
Things like that.
If you shit on them a little bit, you can get people so fucking angry at you.
It's great.
It's great.
joe rogan
There's never been a time like this, Ari Shaffir, where you get so many morons mad at you.
ari shaffir
I love it.
I love it.
But yeah, so what I've noticed is that of the super-liberal...
Okay, you know how American sports fans are kind of dumb?
joe rogan
How dare you?
I can't even believe I'm hearing this.
ari shaffir
More so than other places.
We're not very thought out.
joe rogan
You're fucking rude, bro.
ari shaffir
Our political analysis isn't that smart.
In the same way our liberal left, our feminism, is some of the dumbest feminism in the world.
Other ones are more thought out and more interesting and more just thoughtful in general.
joe rogan
Dude, I think you left America and became a fucking turncoat.
unidentified
That's what I'm hearing.
joe rogan
I'm hearing a bunch of bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what do you think, though?
ari shaffir
You should hear people talking.
They're way smarter than the people we have.
joe rogan
So our people are just dumber?
ari shaffir
Saying this microaggression shit.
joe rogan
Right.
What is that?
ari shaffir
That's us having too much fucking free time.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
ari shaffir
That is you've left behind what's actually wrong, and you're jumping on...
Which is a lot.
There's a lot wrong.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So, like, worry about that.
And calm down.
Microaggression.
Guys...
It's not like there's better shit to do so you shouldn't worry about what actually bothers you.
This shouldn't bother you.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
You know?
Take that same venom and put it into something that's actually happening.
There's this forced circumcision.
joe rogan
Okay, well like that girl that stood up there.
The girl that stood up there and it's like, your ancestors were not slaves.
You weren't brought here.
Mine were.
You know?
And slavery has repercussions.
And then everybody starts clapping and it's like...
You're right, but what is the point?
ari shaffir
Okay, so what are you having to rally for?
joe rogan
What are we doing?
It's obviously ancestors.
When do we get over this ancestor thing?
How many generations in do we just treat people as individuals?
ari shaffir
I've asked people, what do they want?
joe rogan
Some people got an advantage, for sure.
White people.
Got an advantage, for sure.
ari shaffir
Okay, but it's more so, but it's not 100% of the time.
So if I came from a divorced household, I didn't, and my dad wasn't around, and my dad beat my mom, that can be a way worse and harder experience than the Cosby kids.
Right.
joe rogan
Today.
ari shaffir
So it's like, just because you're this, it might make the odds harder for you, but it's not 100%.
joe rogan
But there's an origins thing, and one of the origins that every black kid has to face when they think about it, is that someone down the line was a slave.
And they're not slaves anymore, but that's why people who look like him are here.
They're all here because someone brought them over here in chains.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and there's still a tree with remnants of that.
joe rogan
Right.
And there's got to be a weird self-esteem or a self-identity issue attached to knowing that everybody knows that your ancestors were slaves.
And there's a certain thing that people do when someone has something and someone else wants it.
If you have a group of people that's different, it's really easy to almost think of them as not you.
That's how they've justified wars.
So many people, by dehumanizing the other.
And this thing that has to balance out, that I guess is...
I guess just the echoes of that is like we have to get so many generations away from people being slaves and any repercussions of it socially or economically.
We have to get so far away that it doesn't factor in anymore where we don't care.
ari shaffir
Okay, that's well expressed for sure.
I like that.
That kind of, like, calm way to explain something rarely gets put out anymore.
joe rogan
Of course.
ari shaffir
It's screaming and yelling.
joe rogan
You know why?
ari shaffir
And, like, you're not teaching anyone anything.
The biggest problem on the left and the right, but the ones that are angry, the angry mobs, is they never seek to educate.
They only seek to, like, punish.
joe rogan
Also, grandstand.
Yeah, sure.
They want to make this big speech.
ari shaffir
You can hear in that lady's voice.
She was going for the audience clap two or three times, didn't get it, and was like, I'll keep going.
joe rogan
She's seen Oprah.
She knows how to manipulate a crowd.
She knows how to get those people riled up.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, listen, man, that's part of being a person.
Like, that's half the reward for saying something that's right, is the love that you get from people when you say that it's right.
And they recognize it.
And they go, yes!
So people get addicted to that yes.
So they constantly do things that they think are at least perceived as being right.
And they get very vocal with things when they perceive those things are going to get a very big reaction for standing up against them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it becomes this moral, high ground, sort of grandstanding, peacocking sort of a thing, where they just are constantly trying to let everyone even know how uncool it is to do this, and how wrong it is to do that.
Settle the fuck down.
ari shaffir
You're setting up a weird thing.
And then sometimes they'll see something that doesn't quite fit in.
You know how they make rape broader and broader and broader?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Which I really does think does a disservice to rape.
joe rogan
It does.
ari shaffir
To be able to make it seem like...
Anyway, they were saying coercion is rape, where if you talk someone into it, that's rape.
And then a bunch of men was like, oh, well, if that's true, then I've been raped a bunch of times.
And then the super liberal left was like, oh, we don't want to make that.
We don't want to make you be able to be victims.
So, okay, that's no longer rape.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Coercion was one.
Someone under the influence of alcohol, which was very questionable.
That's a weird one because we all know that there's different states of mind and that a woman who decides to get a couple drinks and then wants to have sex.
If the man is sober...
ari shaffir
That was a weird one.
joe rogan
It's supposed to be that you're not supposed to do it because she's under the influence.
That was the argument that was being pushed.
ari shaffir
The problem is it's too black and white.
So it's like, I know a lot of women who are like, oh, I can't have sex without drinking.
I have to drink before I have sex.
And it's like, oh, well, so then, okay.
They don't all think the same thing.
joe rogan
Of course.
ari shaffir
So some of them, the militant ones, We're good to go.
joe rogan
It wasn't your fault that you plowed into that school bus full of kids with your car because you were drunk.
ari shaffir
That used to be the rule.
joe rogan
You couldn't control it.
Well, it still is the rule, but I'm saying they'll say that if it comes to sexual intercourse, but they won't say that when it comes to driving.
No one's going to say you couldn't consent to being behind the wheel.
You were under the influence.
It's not your fault.
You're supposed to know enough.
It's supposed to be deeply embedded in your head enough that you don't go into that car and start it even though you're drunk.
ari shaffir
But sex, you're like, no, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't handle it.
You don't know what's going on.
ari shaffir
I used to be a guest for a drunk driver.
You ran over somebody while you were drunk driving.
They're like, I'm sorry, but officer, it's like, you know, self-defense.
I was drunk.
Same shit.
I wouldn't do it on purpose.
I didn't do it on purpose.
I was drunk.
That's why I lost control of the car.
Obviously, it's hard to control a car when you're drunk, right?
So that's what happened to me.
joe rogan
When did it become illegal to drink?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's a very good question.
jamie vernon
I looked that up for not too long.
ari shaffir
60s?
jamie vernon
My parents, my friends and whatnot, they did it.
Or like in the 70s.
ari shaffir
Everybody's done it.
joe rogan
Let's Google it and find out.
But let's take a guess.
ari shaffir
I say 50s.
joe rogan
50s?
unidentified
What year?
ari shaffir
I say 61. That's how late in the 50s.
joe rogan
I'm going to go with 69. Okay.
ari shaffir
This is fun to say that.
joe rogan
I think I'm wrong though.
73?
ari shaffir
73?
That seems so late.
Maybe.
Maybe.
joe rogan
I feel like I should stick to the 60s.
jamie vernon
The first state that adopted any sort of law was New York in 1910. Jesus.
unidentified
But...
jamie vernon
Poor we off.
ari shaffir
I didn't know that car's that.
jamie vernon
I feel like when I looked this up before...
unidentified
I thought cars were like late 20s.
joe rogan
People were drunk two years into having cars.
ari shaffir
Yeah, don't get on your horse.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
jamie vernon
I tried to remember looking this up.
I think sometime in the 50s or 60s, or maybe even up to 1980 when MAD started, the states that weren't adopting it were going to stop getting funding for federal road money and stuff like that.
So they had to adopt all the laws.
That's how they forced everyone in.
ari shaffir
Dude, of course people would drink.
It would be a bunch of people driving.
Like, have you tried driving yet?
Like, dude, it's awesome.
And someone's like, have you tried it drunk?
unidentified
No!
Wow!
ari shaffir
I'm for sure gonna do that!
That sounds like a great idea!
joe rogan
See, that's where a horse is superior.
Because a horse isn't gonna crash because the horse is sober.
ari shaffir
Autopilot, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's almost like a form...
ari shaffir
You can pass out on top of it.
joe rogan
It's like a superior form of travel in a lot of ways.
You have a relationship with this animal.
You know, you go up to it.
Hey, there are Mr. Flapjacks or whatever the fuck his name is.
You pet him.
You're a good old boy.
I'm gonna get you some feed.
Put the feed back on him.
unidentified
He chews his food.
joe rogan
Like, what the fuck, man?
That's probably a way better way of getting around.
unidentified
As long as you're not allergic to horses.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's way worse.
Oh, if you're allergic to horses in the West, you're fucked.
You're living here.
joe rogan
How the fuck is a person allergic to horses?
This is how weak our gene pool has gotten, folks.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's sad.
I feel so bad for people that are allergic to animals and people that are allergic to pollen and people that are allergic to...
ari shaffir
Allergic to wool.
joe rogan
A lot of people close to me have allergies.
It's so hard to watch because it's annoying.
Like, that there's a thing out there that can do that to them.
ari shaffir
Just to them.
joe rogan
What the fuck is, that doesn't even make any sense.
ari shaffir
And it's not the thing's self-defense mechanism.
joe rogan
No, it's dumb.
It's like grass.
Some kids are super allergic to types of grass.
There's kids that'll, like, they have celiacs.
My kids are friends with them, and, you know, you have to be real careful that they don't eat anything that has any wheat.
ari shaffir
I thought you were going to say you have to be careful or they become too much friends with them.
joe rogan
No.
They can't eat.
ari shaffir
Start inviting them to your home.
joe rogan
They have to have very strict diets.
Yeah, no soy sauce.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Real super strict diets because they have an allergy.
ari shaffir
I've heard about it.
Your hand gets all hot and things happen to you.
joe rogan
Dude, allergies are fucking straight.
Like peanuts.
Like if you have that...
ari shaffir
You can smell it two rows behind you in a plane.
You're fucked.
joe rogan
Brian Callen's mom, he said on the podcast, he was talking about how she eats Brazil nuts.
She gets, like, terribly ill.
ari shaffir
Well, those are the most expensive ones.
joe rogan
They're gross, though.
ari shaffir
They're not that good.
They're big.
joe rogan
Yeah, they ain't shit.
ari shaffir
They're big.
joe rogan
They ain't shit.
ari shaffir
Oh, macadamias.
joe rogan
Macadamias?
unidentified
Macadamias are good.
ari shaffir
They're expensive, too.
joe rogan
I love me macadamia.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But nobody's putting Brazil nuts in chocolate the fuck out of here with that big, stupid nut.
unidentified
That's a big, stupid, weird tasting nut.
What is that?
joe rogan
You have a cashew and you eat that piece of shit?
ari shaffir
Gotta fucking give me half of it now and half of it later.
joe rogan
Yeah, like if you told me, dude, you gotta pass on one nut for the rest of your life.
ari shaffir
Brazil nuts right off the bat?
unidentified
I kind of like walnuts.
joe rogan
It's an unusual, almost a dry flavor.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're weird once in a while with some salt on them.
joe rogan
Imagine if there was, like, sommeliers for nuts, the same way there are for, like, wines.
Some dude, like, sat you down and was talking to you about the cashews he was about to serve.
This is a cashew from the Himalayas.
ari shaffir
You could open a whole restaurant called D's Nuts.
Joe, I gotta go take pictures from my Netflix double special called Double Negative out this July.
joe rogan
Ari Shafir, rocking and rolling.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm very excited that you're gonna have your special on Netflix.
ari shaffir
Yeah, man, me too.
unidentified
That's huge.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
All the Canadians out there and Australians, you finally get to see something.
joe rogan
Will you come on the day you're gonna release it?
ari shaffir
You're gonna be out of town.
joe rogan
Jesus, bitch.
What day is it?
ari shaffir
July 18th.
joe rogan
What about the day before that?
Am I out of town then?
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're gonna be on vacation that whole week.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Shit!
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, we're work out of time.
When are you leaving?
ari shaffir
From here?
joe rogan
Yeah, when are you jetting?
ari shaffir
June 24th?
joe rogan
That's when you're going back to that dirty, stinky, stacked up, rat infested.
ari shaffir
We could record one off this and release it later.
joe rogan
Record one off this?
ari shaffir
Off, not in the studio.
Let's go up on a hike by your house.
joe rogan
Let's do a hike.
ari shaffir
And we'll do a hike podcast.
joe rogan
Let's do a hike podcast.
ari shaffir
And you can put it out the day of.
joe rogan
I like it.
ari shaffir
Would that work?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
Beautiful.
All right.
That's what it is.
Okay.
Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you download Ari Shafir's Skeptic Tank.
It's one of the best podcasts in the known universe.
ari shaffir
Thank you.
joe rogan
And it's one that I never miss.
ari shaffir
Punch Drunk Sports is one.
unidentified
Oh, sorry.
ari shaffir
I thought you said it's one you always miss.
I misheard it.
joe rogan
Punch Drunk Sports 2. Yeah.
ari shaffir
But yeah, but you listen to Skeptic Tank.
That's great.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do.
ari shaffir
I'm happy about that.
joe rogan
I'm not a sports fan so much, so the punch drunk, I'll listen to you guys when you talk about fights.
I always want to call her and go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
ari shaffir
I got my asshole bleached yesterday.
joe rogan
I heard.
unidentified
I heard.
joe rogan
I saw pictures.
ari shaffir
Triple E. I mean, Serenity's had a hold up in my butt shakes.
joe rogan
How'd that feel?
ari shaffir
Weird, man.
joe rogan
I would imagine.
If you were comfortable with it, then it'd be a problem.
ari shaffir
This dude had his fucking finger right under the rim.
I kept thinking he was just going to go forward.
joe rogan
So he had to touch your asshole while he was bleaching it?
unidentified
Yeah.
Glove.
joe rogan
He had a glove.
What'd this guy look like?
Can I guess?
Can I guess?
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
I would guess that he has, like, um, like, limp implants and Botox, and it's like an oddly shiny forehead, and he, um, he's got a perfect haircut, and he's very feminine, but in a weird sort of a way, and he's just, uh, rubbing, and he has a suit on, and he has white gloves.
They're white gloves, like, with the lines in the back of them, like Mickey Mouse has.
ari shaffir
Like a butler's glove?
Well, to give you a hint, it's Sam Tripoli who got the person.
joe rogan
Oh, so he's an Armenian?
ari shaffir
No.
He was a gimp wearing a mask with a leather leash around him and a codpiece.
joe rogan
That's better.
ari shaffir
He was looking for a porn star, but one couldn't do it, so he got this instead.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was the person nice to you?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he was pretty nice.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
ari shaffir
I can see his mustache through his gimp mask, and that's it.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
A lot of content for you.
joe rogan
A lot of content.
A lot of content.
ari shaffir
It's back every-ish week.
Yeah.
I'm not doing too much travel and stuff, but yeah.
joe rogan
All right.
ari shaffir
I want to get Killer Mike on.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too.
ari shaffir
If you're out there, dude.
I want to talk to you about the revolution.
joe rogan
Okay, well, let's get him in town.
We'll have him do both.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Or we can do a swap cast.
unidentified
Ooh.
ari shaffir
Put it up wherever you want.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what Swapcast is?
unidentified
Sort of.
joe rogan
Bert and Doug do it.
It'll go up on Bert's and it'll go up on Doug's.
Sort of like we did with The End of the World.
Everybody put The End of the World up.
When we did The End of the World podcast on election night, everybody got it.
We just sent a copy of it and everybody just put it up.
Swapcast.
ari shaffir
That's a cool idea.
unidentified
Yay!
joe rogan
It's democratic or something.
Alright, folks, that's it.
Love you.
Bye-bye.
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