March 15, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Boom, boom. | ||
| Five, four, three, two, one. | ||
| We're live here from the valley with the artist formerly known as the Amazing Atheist. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Imagine if I just started talking like that, no explanation, I just kept it going for years. | ||
| Everybody's like, one day he's gonna drop it. | ||
| I kind of dropped it a little. | ||
| The Amazing Atheist, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I still use it. | ||
| I oscillate. | ||
| I'm kind of trying to transition to just using my real name. | ||
| Well, the last time you were here, you talked about that, and that was, I think, two years ago. | ||
| So this was slow. | ||
| It was a year and three months ago. | ||
| Oh, that's it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| It was January of 2016. Why do I feel like it was so in my memory? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You know that Dunbar's number thing where you can only fit so many people in your brain? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's definitely that going on in my head and then too much data. | ||
| My hard drive is fucked. | ||
| You know if you get an old laptop and it keeps telling you you have to delete some files because you're running out of space? | ||
| That's my brain. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, my brain is even worse because literally things like... | ||
| things I knew yesterday I don't know today anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, my memory is dog shit. | ||
| And you were just saying you haven't smoked pot in days. | ||
| Yep. | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| Not in days. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Days and days. | ||
|
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Days and days and days. | |
| I fucked up and had an edible last night. | ||
| I did this, there's a show that my friend Jeremiah Watkins has, and it's like a make-em-up show. | ||
| He calls it stand-up on the spot, where the audience will yell out, you know, fried broccoli, like whatever, and you just have to rant on broccoli, like what your thoughts are, try to get some comedy out of it. | ||
| And occasionally, maybe one out of ten subjects, it will actually yield a real bit that'll become a bit in your act. | ||
| It's really kind of amazing when you put on the pressure like that. | ||
| So I said, what a good time to test the deep end of the pool and find out what these speed weed edibles are all about. | ||
| I fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucked up. | ||
| My brother had a panic attack on edibles just a few days ago. | ||
| My friend brought over some pot brownies and... | ||
| He had one. | ||
| He's not really used to edibles. | ||
| Anyway, I go to bed. | ||
| I'm laying down and watching, like, Star Trek Deep Space Nine or some shit. | ||
| I get a knock on the door like, TJ! Hey, man, can you come out here for a minute? | ||
| I'm like, okay. | ||
| What the hell is this? | ||
| I go out there, he's like... | ||
| I'm really not feeling good, man. | ||
| I think I'm having a heart attack, dude. | ||
| I'm like, dude, you're probably just having a panic attack from too much weed. | ||
| Okay, has this ever happened to you? | ||
| Has this ever happened to you? | ||
| I'm like, yeah, it's happened to me before. | ||
| Just calm down. | ||
| I know your heart's racing. | ||
| You feel disoriented and shit. | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| I thought I was calming him down. | ||
| I spent like 30 minutes talking him down, but finally, you know, and he seemed like he was like, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm cool now, I'm cool now. | ||
| And then just all of a sudden, like, no, I feel terrible, we gotta go to the hospital. | ||
| We gotta go to the hospital, dude. | ||
| I gotta go to the fucking hospital. | ||
| And I drove him over there, and I sat down in that fucking hospital waiting room. | ||
| And they... | ||
| There was like this fucking ad for Stanley Steamer. | ||
| And there was this terrible jingle and I'm like... | ||
| It's like the worst jingle I've ever heard. | ||
| It's not gonna get stuck in my head. | ||
| And now to this day... | ||
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Call 1-800-STEAMER! Stanley Steamer, your certified cleaner! | |
| I'll be in bed at night, and that shit will be in my head just over and over and over and over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, they have wizards that come up with those things, man. | ||
| Even the ones that suck. | ||
| They just get in there, you know? | ||
| Oh yeah, it's a terrible one. | ||
| And then he gets out, they gave him some fuckin' Ativan. | ||
| You know what you can give him next time? | ||
| Just give him some coffee. | ||
| Coffee's like one of the best things. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's something about caffeine, apparently, that counteracts the effects of marijuana. | ||
| When you're really high, they say just drink some coffee. | ||
| I'll have to do that next time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If that happens. | ||
| Isn't that true? | ||
| That is true, right? | ||
| That and a hot shower, I think, because... | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Everyone's got their own fucking home remedy for this shit, I guess. | ||
| But here's the thing, like, once you've done it a few times, you realize, well... | ||
| What the panic attack is, is essentially your brain taking an audit of all the things that are real worries that you haven't been considering at all. | ||
| And then they fly. | ||
| Well, you're going to die someday. | ||
| Are you prepared? | ||
| Like, what if it's tomorrow? | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
| Have you had a good life? | ||
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Ah! | |
| What if someone close to you dies? | ||
| You think you're going to be able to recover? | ||
| Ah! | ||
| You just start thinking like really crazy shit, and it just makes you aware of those things. | ||
| And then once it wears off, you know, you reach... | ||
| That sort of neutral point again. | ||
| Well, he's a hypochondriac to begin with. | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
| You can't give guys like that weed. | ||
| You should know better. | ||
| Well, he's fine if he smokes it, but if he eats it... | ||
| It's a different thing. | ||
| It's different shit. | ||
| Totally different thing. | ||
| So, your podcast was the big podcast that kind of sunk Milo. | ||
| It was kind of a combination of mine and yours. | ||
| And I remember it was me watching him on your show. | ||
| That led us to ask about that because I saw him on your show and he was like God at the time because I remember at the time he was on our show I told Paul, one of my co-hosts, like, Paul, this guy ain't no lightweight and he's got a huge army of sycophants right now. | ||
| If you get in a debate with him, if you lose, you're a total bitch. | ||
| If you tie, you lose. | ||
| If you win by a little, you lose. | ||
| The only way you can actually beat him with his army of sycophants at this time is if you just demolish him. | ||
| So don't even try. | ||
| You were concerned about this? | ||
| Like, this is something you planned out in advance? | ||
| No, I mean, it wasn't really a plan. | ||
| I just wanted to bring it up, because I saw him on your show saying it. | ||
| I'm like, that's very strange. | ||
| I kind of knew where he was coming from. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because I knew that he had had experiences, like sexual experiences, when he was younger. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And he was kind of... | ||
| I think he was trying to trivialize them and turn them into humor. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you know, his way of dealing with it or whatever... | ||
| You know, say, like, oh, it was mutual between me and the priest. | ||
| I was molested by a priest, but I was into it, so it was cool. | ||
| Well, he's like, I was the predator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he seduced the priest, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's kind of hard for me to imagine a 13-year-old boy, no matter how flamboyantly gay or sexually aggressive... | ||
| You know, jumping the priest's bones or something. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Well, I think it sort of gives you a better understanding of how this guy came to be who he is today and why he so relishes this role of being the contrarian and being this sort of very difficult-to-pigeonhole gay man who's very conservative but yet believes in man-boy love. | ||
| I mean, look, this is a... | ||
| If you go back and you read old articles that he wrote for publications that he worked for in the past, there was a lot of stuff like, we're going to take on bullying on Twitter, and we need to make a safe space for people online. | ||
| This is Milo. | ||
| And now he's like the biggest troll. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, we talked about Milo last time I was on your show and you told me, you kind of put the seed in my brain like, eh, he's kind of like fake. | ||
| And the more I've looked into it, the more I have to question whether or not that shit with the priest even happened to begin with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I just don't... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't really trust the shit that comes out of his mouth in terms of, like, face value. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think a lot of times when Milo tries to make a point, he doesn't necessarily make it by directly saying it. | ||
| He tries to make it through, like, performance art. | ||
| Like when he went on Bill Maher. | ||
| And, um... | ||
| And, you know, he's doing this whole flamboyant gay conservative thing because he wants the liberal Bill Maher audience to be like, boo! | ||
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Boo! | |
| Because it's like, ah, look, what hypocrites. | ||
| They say they accept gays, but the second you don't toe their line, what they obviously like is people who toe their line, not gay people. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think that was the point he was trying to make. | ||
| I thought it was funny, too, how Bill Maher, the next day, after Milo's scandal broke... | ||
| Was like, I took him down. | ||
| It was me. | ||
| Was he saying that? | ||
| Yeah, it was like, I took him down. | ||
| It's like, dude, you said he was the next Hitchens when he was on your show. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| He really said he took him down? | ||
| Yeah, he said, I took him down. | ||
| No. | ||
| I took him down. | ||
| Oh, he's a fool. | ||
| That's such a foolish thing to think. | ||
| You know, what I think is what Milo does, a lot of it is performance art. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a lot of trolling and it's a lot of very calculated stuff designed to sort of rile people up and get people active and get people to talk about them. | ||
| I mean, that's the reason why he does this tour on colleges. | ||
| I mean, why not do it in the lion's den if you want to get the roars? | ||
| I mean, he's doing it like where he feels like this problem is the greatest. | ||
| Oh, he wants to stir that pot, too, because he knows if he just does it in some club downtown, there's not going to be any protests. | ||
| No one's going to give a shit. | ||
| They'll still protest, I'm sure, but not, like, bringing it to their campus. | ||
| It won't be like what happened at Berkeley. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, what happened at Berkeley was just fucking insane. | ||
| What's really insane is that, was it the mayor of San Francisco that was applauding the protests? | ||
| Like, hey, fuckface, there was $100,000 worth of property damage. | ||
| People were throwing chairs through Starbucks windows and lighting cop cars on fire. | ||
| This ain't good. | ||
| There's been articles on, like, uh... | ||
| I almost made a video about this article on the Huffington Post, actually, that was basically like, violence is as valid a reaction to Trump as anything. | ||
| It's like, wow, you're literally just advocating for violence, and you think you're so enlightened. | ||
| Yeah, it's completely foolish. | ||
| Once things aren't going their way, it goes against everything they've stood for before. | ||
| What about kindness? | ||
| What about compassion? | ||
| What about treating people with love? | ||
| What about facts and information? | ||
| Well, that's okay when they're in power. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's okay when they're in power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But when someone else is in power that they don't like, it all kind of goes out the way out. | ||
| Well, it kind of goes both ways, though, doesn't it? | ||
| Oh, yeah, it definitely does. | ||
| I mean, remember when Obama was in office and there was people that were calling him a Muslim and they were talking about taking him out? | ||
| I ain't fucking... | ||
| I remember, uh, I heard rednecks, I was living in Louisiana at the time he was elected, and I heard rednecks say shit like, man, I can't wait for someone to assassinate this piece of shit. | ||
| They were looking forward to it. | ||
| Not only did they think it was inevitable he'd be assassinated, but it was like, yeah, that's going to be a good thing. | ||
| That's going to be a good day for America when Obama's finally killed. | ||
| And when they say things like that and you corner them, you go, okay, well, what's so bad about him? | ||
| What drives you so nuts? | ||
| He's a Kenyan, he's a Muslim, and he's a socialist. | ||
| Oh, a socialist. | ||
| Socialist, Muslim, Kenyan, communist, secret Muslim. | ||
| I would love it if someone pulled off socialism somewhere. | ||
| Like there was like one country and go, well look, those guys are happy. | ||
| Look at those folks. | ||
| If you look at socialism as a gradient, then there's plenty of countries that have more or less... | ||
| More socialist than we are. | ||
| I don't think pure socialism is a good idea any more than pure capitalism. | ||
| Like, oh, we just need laissez-faire, the libertarian idea. | ||
| Like, yeah, the markets will take care of everything. | ||
| How many libertarians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? | ||
| None. | ||
| The free market will take care of it. | ||
| Yeah, well, those people get a little goofy. | ||
| And you know, the most frustrating to me is the anarchists. | ||
| The ones who want no taxes, no cops, you know, nobody fixes the roads. | ||
| Or worse, private police. | ||
| Oh, that's even worse. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, private police! | ||
| Like, how does that work? | ||
| You mean everyone, if you have money, you just hire out your own justice? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Hire out thugs. | ||
| Does that really seem like they would be objective and in pursuit of, like... | ||
| It seems like they would just be your armed thugs that are going to mete out whatever form of justice you think is appropriate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, for sure. | ||
| If they're working for you, that'd be an issue. | ||
| If you're the big boss and the big boss wants these laws enforced, you know, and then the big boss passes his own laws on his property. | ||
| It makes things different. | ||
| It gets real weird when you're dealing with 350 million people. | ||
| That's really a part of the problem. | ||
| The style of civilization that works well for one person is not what's preferred by another person. | ||
| And all those things combined... | ||
| With the whole antiquated voting system, the whole ridiculous electoral college system. | ||
| We're never going to achieve some sort of peace of mind. | ||
| Superdelegates in the Democratic Party. | ||
| Those are the most ridiculous. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| You're a superdelegate? | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| You can decide not to vote for the way the entire state voted? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| And we're leaving it up to them to make sure that Trump doesn't get in. | ||
| It's a stopgap, you know, like, because the people in power have always been afraid of the actual will of the people, so anything they can do, they want to safeguard, like, well, if the people choose poorly, you know, we want to be able to stop that from happening. | ||
| Yeah, we have to, those uninformed fools, we can't leave them up to their own decisions. | ||
| In all fairness, I've been around America and there are a lot of uninformed fools. | ||
| There's a few. | ||
| Quite a few. | ||
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What do you think? | |
| You think it's like half of us are uninformed fools? | ||
| I wouldn't even want to throw out a number. | ||
| But there's just a lot of people that are stupid. | ||
| I mean, it's hard to know because, you know, you really almost don't know what someone really thinks until you sit down with them one by one or, you know, one on one and have a conversation. | ||
| And even then. | ||
| Well, you don't keep a real job, right? | ||
| When was the last time you had a real job, a job job? | ||
| I worked at IHOP for two days. | ||
| About 10 years ago. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| More than 10 years ago. | ||
| And what have you been doing for the most part since then? | ||
| YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, see, if you can make a living doing something else in this day and age, you're removed from the grid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you're removed from the employer-employee grid... | ||
| You get to see things in a different way. | ||
| You go, well, this is all temporary. | ||
| Everyone's working towards some future that really never comes. | ||
| The life that you're experiencing right now is life. | ||
| And most people are spending that time doing shit they don't want to do, and it fills up all their time. | ||
| So then when it comes to government, And it comes to, like, who's leading the country? | ||
| Which direction is the country going into it? | ||
| How much time do people actually spend paying attention to it? | ||
| And actually spend really considering it? | ||
| I mean, I've been at people's houses where I'll try to bring up news or politics or something like that. | ||
| They get sick. | ||
| And people are just like, we don't talk about that in this household. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| Not even necessarily politics, but just news. | ||
| Like, yeah, did you hear about this thing that happened? | ||
| I don't like news. | ||
| It depresses me. | ||
| Oh, is this a woman? | ||
| It sounds like a woman's voice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was a woman. | ||
| That was a woman voice. | ||
| Not in my house, woman. | ||
| Not in my house. | ||
| We don't put up with that shit around here. | ||
| We have ways that we allow you to communicate inside these borders. | ||
| By the way, I did lose my IHOP job by dumping pancakes on somebody. | ||
| You did? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| It's fat fuck. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| But I went into the job and I was like, all right, look, I'm not good with people. | ||
| Don't put me anywhere near front of house. | ||
| I'm going to be in the kitchen. | ||
| I was living in Alabama at the time. | ||
| I was like 18. I had a 32-year-old girlfriend. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| So I was like, you know. | ||
| You were mature. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And she's like, you know, I was lazing around the house every day while she went and worked. | ||
| And eventually she's like, you need to get a job. | ||
| And I'm like, all right. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Hey, you were banging a 32-year-old. | ||
| You should have been psyched. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I was at first, but then when she said get a job, I was like, eh. | ||
| But I did. | ||
| I'm like, all right, I'm going to try to make this work. | ||
| So I went to IHOP, and they're like, yeah, you just work the back. | ||
| I'm like, okay, cool, I'll work the back. | ||
| I'll just do dishes. | ||
| I'll just turn my brain off and wash dishes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, you know, I'll learn to do the grill or whatever the fuck else. | ||
| Second day, I was there. | ||
| They're like, we're short-staffed. | ||
| We're gonna need you to just take care of a few tables. | ||
| I'm like, it's not a good idea. | ||
| I'm not good with the public. | ||
| I'm not good with people. | ||
| Did they train you how to do it when they said they're short-staffed? | ||
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No. | |
| They just sent you out there? | ||
| They're just like, yeah. | ||
| I mean, they told me, like, yeah, you just, you know... | ||
| Write down their orders. | ||
| Yeah, just go out, write out, you know. | ||
| We know you're not gonna be great at it, whatever, but go do it. | ||
| Because we're short-staffed. | ||
| We need you. | ||
| Everyone else in the kitchen is more vital than you are because they've all been here a long time. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| So, uh, I went out, and I took, I waited on like three or four tables, and there was this one fat fuck who, maybe like, I mean, it had been a while. | ||
| This place was not well run. | ||
| The fact that they sent me out to fucking wait tables is evidence of that. | ||
| So it was like 15 minutes, and he hadn't got his fucking, uh, pancakes and breakfast and shit. | ||
| And he's like, where are my pancakes? | ||
| I'm like, oh, um, I'll go check. | ||
| You better... | ||
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You better. | |
| You better! | ||
| That just rang in my head. | ||
| You know, like, the same as that jingle. | ||
| You better. | ||
| You better. | ||
| Like, I don't recall you signing my fucking paychecks. | ||
| So, I just went up to him with a pancake tray and I just dumped it in his lap and like, there you go, bitch. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And I walked out. | ||
| That's all it took was you better. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I was out there in the parking lot for about seven hours because I didn't have a cell phone. | ||
| I didn't have a ride. | ||
| It wasn't seven hours, more like four or five. | ||
| But I was just wandering around in a parking lot. | ||
| I couldn't even stay in the IHOP parking lot because I didn't want anyone from there to come in, but I just wandered around the parking lot of this shopping center for four hours waiting for my girlfriend to show up. | ||
| When she finally did, I was just like, yeah, I quit. | ||
| Didn't tell her the story. | ||
| Just told her I quit. | ||
| And we broke up shortly after that. | ||
| I would imagine that wouldn't work out. | ||
| It didn't work out. | ||
| Well, you were 18. Yeah, I was young. | ||
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Impulsive. | |
| I was young and stupid. | ||
| You were young. | ||
| Now I'm old and stupid. | ||
| You were antisocial slightly. | ||
| Forced into a situation that you didn't desire. | ||
| I'm extremely antisocial in general. | ||
| Are you? | ||
| Yeah, still, to this day. | ||
| But that's interesting because you do YouTube videos and you talk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you talk with people on a podcast, which is pretty social. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm getting better at it. | ||
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That's good. | |
| You know, I'm still not comfortable around strangers and shit. | ||
| You get uncomfortable when you do podcasts, like this one? | ||
| Does this make you uncomfortable? | ||
| Oh yeah, you know, like, a lot of people, when I guess they figured out I was coming on here again, I read a thread on the Drunken Peasants subreddit, where people were talking about, yeah, you know, he's gonna be on Joe Rogan again, and people were like, yeah, I liked last time, but I hope he's not so nervous this time. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| You can't say that. | ||
| Because I'm like, oh shit. | ||
| Well, I was nervous last time. | ||
| Like, last time I did your show, I came in here and I talked to you, and then I left, and I was like, I have no idea what the content of the conversation I just had was. | ||
| When I got here, you were already... | ||
| I don't remember a fucking word. | ||
| You were already baked out of your mind when I got here. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| I don't remember much of what we talked about either, but it was good. | ||
| That's why you're back. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed it. | ||
| I've never been able to watch it, though. | ||
| Yeah, I don't watch them. | ||
| I can't watch it at all. | ||
| I mean, usually I will watch everything that I'm in and just am in love with the sound of my own voice and obsessive and, you know, all that shit. | ||
| But, like, this, this show I couldn't watch just because, like, I can't watch my CNN appearance either. | ||
| What'd you do CNN about? | ||
| I went on CNN because there was a new poll out that showed that Faith was on the decline in America, so they had me on there. | ||
| I was supposed to be on 30 minutes, but unfortunately that was the day that fucking Ratzinger Resign. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So, it got preempted for that shit. | ||
| But I was on for about four minutes, and I had an argument with William Lane Craig about statistics. | ||
| Who is William Lane Craig? | ||
| He's a Christian apologist piece of shit. | ||
| Sounds like one. | ||
| He's horrible. | ||
| He's just wretched. | ||
| You can watch him debate Hitchens, and I think... | ||
| No, he never debated Dawkins, but you can watch him debate Hitchens. | ||
| Terrible stuff. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds like not so good. | ||
| Just the name, William Lane Craig. | ||
| It's like, settle down, buddy. | ||
| Here, why not? | ||
| Yeah, why not just William Craig? | ||
| Why you gotta throw that Lane in there? | ||
| Unless you're married to someone whose last name is Lane. | ||
| And that's always a disaster. | ||
| Those hyphenated marriages? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That shit just seems like someone's... | ||
| Like, that is an oil wrestling match. | ||
| And someone's gonna lose. | ||
| You guys are gonna lose. | ||
| It's not gonna work. | ||
| It's too much struggle for power there. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Plus, what do you do if you have- I mean, what happens when it compounds, you know? | ||
| Like, the kids are born, do they take the hyphenated name? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then what if they meet and fall in love with someone else who has a hyphenated name? | ||
| Do they then have, like, four last names with three hyphens in it, you know? | ||
| It's like, does it just compound over time, like, until eventually everyone has every single last name just hyphenated? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| If everybody was so greedy and wanted to be special the way those assholes do, we would all have hyphenated names. | ||
| That would be a real problem. | ||
| Maybe just get rid of the fucking name change shit and just argue about what the kids are going to be named. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| How do you feel about people changing their names? | ||
| Like, what if you just decided, like, I want to change my whole name. | ||
| First and last. | ||
| I just want to become a new person. | ||
| My dad changed his name. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did he have a crazy last name hard to pronounce? | ||
| No, it wasn't that. | ||
| My grandfather... | ||
| Look, I'm Thomas James Kirk III, but I'm the first person in my family to have that name. | ||
| So... | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What happened was, my grandfather was named James Vardaman Kirk. | ||
| James Kirk. | ||
| So when my dad was James Vardaman Kirk Jr., Star Trek came out at some point, and he's James Kirk. | ||
| So he's getting Star Trek jokes non-stop all the time. | ||
| Finally, he was in France, and he ordered up some champagne to his room. | ||
| He was impressing a young woman. | ||
| And they're like, oh, we'll beam it right up, sir. | ||
| And he's like, fuck this name. | ||
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| I gotta get rid of this. | ||
| So, when I was born, Thomas James Kirk III, because he knew he was changing his name to Thomas James Kirk Jr., but he didn't actually officially change it until after I was born... | ||
| So, even though I'm the third, I'm actually the first. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| No one would ever guess that on a trivia test. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You would sneak that one right through. | ||
| That's annoying. | ||
| That's like, there's no one probably today that's named Rick James. | ||
| Like, anyone born after the Chappelle show, there's no fucking way anyone who saw the Chappelle show is naming their kid Rick James. | ||
| If your last name's James, you're not gonna name your boy Rick. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe some people are like, damn right, Rick James, bitch. | ||
| I'm Rick James, bitch. | ||
| That was a real problem with Chappelle's career. | ||
| That Rick James, bitch thing, people would yell it out at shows. | ||
| Just constantly yell it out. | ||
| Like, white bros. | ||
| Like, you know the guy who would yell it? | ||
| You could see him, you know? | ||
|
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I'm Rick James, bitch! | |
| Like... | ||
| Drunk. | ||
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Rick James, bitch! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And people apparently just kept doing that at his shows. | ||
| It was like a real problem for a while. | ||
| You should have done like a... | ||
| Just be like Schwarzenegger. | ||
| Just embrace it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, Schwarzenegger goes around. | ||
| He always is using all... | ||
| You terminated! | ||
| And all this shit. | ||
| You know, he just embraces it. | ||
| Because he knows people just fucking get that shit in their head and they want to hear it. | ||
| So he's like, fuck it. | ||
| Give it to them. | ||
| Yeah, he did it on The New Apprentice, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I never saw it. | ||
| Did you see it? | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| I didn't even watch the old one. | ||
| But he'll fucking go around, like, he'll do all his little lines, I'll be back, and all this shit. | ||
| You know, he doesn't care. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| That's his trademark. | ||
| That's his shit. | ||
| He's not scared of it. | ||
| I love the fucking... | ||
| There was a rally where someone threw eggs at Arnold Schwarzenegger. | ||
| They threw eggs at him? | ||
| Yeah, they threw eggs. | ||
| He got on his suit and he's like, well, that's what's great about America, but they owe me some bacon. | ||
| You know, it's like, what? | ||
| You're so fucking smooth, Arnold. | ||
| You should be president. | ||
| They threw eggs at him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People just looking for a reason to get mad. | ||
| I'm pissed because Arnold. | ||
| He's the problem in America. | ||
| Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger. | ||
| Was he a good governor? | ||
| No. | ||
| Was he a bad governor? | ||
| Nah, not really. | ||
| Was he just half-assed? | ||
| He was half-assed, mediocre governor. | ||
| Do you think it's almost impossible to jump in later in life without going through the river of politics first? | ||
| House of Cards style. | ||
| Trump's kind of done it. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But has he? | ||
| I mean, he's in. | ||
| But I mean, is it going to work? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like Arnold Schwarzenegger got in too, like in the relationship to the same, you know, same two sort of situations. | ||
| I mean, does it really, I mean, it works enough to where he's president. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I mean, it worked that well. | ||
| I mean, his approval ratings are kind of dog shit, but they always were. | ||
| But when you say whether or not Arnold Schwarzenegger was a good governor, I don't know. | ||
| I don't really know enough about it. | ||
| I would have to really look into it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the big thing was that he tried to pass all these... | ||
| I guess laws is not really the word I'm looking for, but I'll use that. | ||
| He tried to pass all these, like, laws, and they all failed at the ballot, and people said he was done. | ||
| And he just went out and, like, he went out and made a speech that almost gave you the impression like he'd been against them from the start. | ||
| Like, yes, these terrible laws, they are gone. | ||
| It's like, okay, you're the one who pushed them, but whatever. | ||
| He was really smooth at just operating with crowds and just knew what to say, knew the right attitude to strike. | ||
| But in terms of actually governing, it was just mediocre. | ||
| He didn't really get much done legislatively. | ||
| But he didn't really, he wasn't really a disaster either. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's what I was thinking. | ||
| Like, I wonder how difficult it is to get things done. | ||
| Like, we'd only be guessing. | ||
| Like, sitting here on the outside, and that guy that you were talking to, like, Obama's a piece of shit, like that kind of a guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, how much of it do you think he really grasps? | ||
| Very little. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think anybody who's not doing it Grasps how complex that system is. | ||
| You and I probably both know that the more people you involve in any sort of endeavor or project, the more difficult it becomes because you're managing all these different interests. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So when you're president or governor or something like that, you have so many people that you're supposed to be representing... | ||
| And they all have different ideas, and there's other legislators who have their agendas and shit, so it's probably pretty difficult to get much of anything done. | ||
| Could you imagine the stress of that job? | ||
| I mean, just imagine. | ||
| That's why Trump's been golfing so many times. | ||
| Just to try to relieve stress? | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| I mean, he criticized Obama for golfing too much, and now Trump's a big, avid golfer. | ||
| I can't even imagine it. | ||
| I mean, the guy's 70 years old, too. | ||
| Like, why would he even want to take this on? | ||
| With all that money and all that, you know, all that power already. | ||
| Like, why would he want to be the president? | ||
| It just seems like such a fucking hellacious job. | ||
| Unless he really feels like he can fix things, or he's really gonna make a ton of money from it. | ||
| I mean, this is a guy who plasters his fucking name on buildings and shit, you know? | ||
| So I think it's really just a matter for him of like, this is part of my legacy. | ||
| You know, towards the end of my life, I was President of the United States. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Because it's another version of what many people did with Obama. | ||
| In this weird way, in that when Obama got into office, there was all these really, really irrational people that said all kinds of crazy shit. | ||
| And by the way, Trump was amongst them. | ||
| He was a birther. | ||
| Yeah, he was. | ||
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Remember? | |
| For the longest time. | ||
| He was convinced. | ||
| Somebody convinced him. | ||
| I don't know who convinced him. | ||
| I don't know if he really relinquished it and realized he was wrong, or if he still holds onto the idea. | ||
| Did he ever really believe it, too? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But you know who started that whole birther thing? | ||
| Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Yeah, she did. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's something that people forget. | ||
| It was during the campaign between her and Obama when they were trying to get the nomination in 2008. Yeah. | ||
| She had one of her little orgs send out materials that showed Obama in the... | ||
| He was wearing some African Muslim garb shit because he went on a visit to some other country. | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| He's Muslim! | ||
| And Trump just ran with that. | ||
| Or a lot of Republicans did, too. | ||
| Well, I guess that's just how they play politics. | ||
| They have something like that. | ||
| They just run with it. | ||
| It's just so strange to see. | ||
| Well, when you got a candidate named Barack Obama... | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| Hussein. | ||
| Hussein Obama. | ||
| Like... | ||
| Barack Hussein Obama. | ||
| Hussein? | ||
| Isn't that the guy that ran Iraq and Obama? | ||
| Isn't that similar to the name of the guy that crashed those planes into the towers? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Somebody had a joke. | ||
| A really good, well-rooted joke. | ||
| I don't remember who it was, though. | ||
| Might have been Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| But the... | ||
| I mean, it's just this is almost a similar reaction. | ||
| I don't mean it's less it's more rational or less rational What I mean is almost like the energy of the reaction like the energy of the birthers and the guys who were convinced that he was some sort of undercover Muslim and then he was gonna get into the White House and try to take America down from the inside like that Feeling that the amount of energy that way is mirrored now on the left Maybe even oh, | ||
| yeah, maybe even past I would say probably I might not be right because I might not be remembering it perfectly, but I feel like the energy on the left of people getting mad at Trump is more powerful or there's more to it than the energy that I saw from people on the right that wanted Obama out of office. | ||
| But it might just be my memory. | ||
| You've got to remember, too, there's an age gap there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because, you know, most of the people who were talking this shit about Obama were pretty old. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And a lot of the people now that are pissed are really young, so they're more likely to take to the streets and, you know, smash things and hold up signs and, you know, act wild and shit. | ||
| And mace people. | ||
| Yeah, you know, and I remember when Bush took office, though, like... | ||
| When Bush was being inaugurated, I remember he was driving down to the White House on Inauguration Day. | ||
| With Trump, the protesters kind of came the next day. | ||
| But when Bush was inaugurated, the protesters were all there the day of. | ||
| Bush couldn't even do the little traditional walk down the last few blocks of the journey because there were so many protesters. | ||
| People were just throwing things at the fucking motorcade and shit. | ||
| So, I mean, like, this is not unusual. | ||
| But that was towards the end. | ||
| No, that was the very beginning. | ||
| Which one am I thinking of? | ||
| Wasn't there one towards the very end? | ||
| I think we're thinking of different ones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think my memory's fucked up. | ||
| But I think there was one towards the end where they had planned on having him walk down some long stretch, and they had to abandon it and get him into a car. | ||
| Is that the same story? | ||
| Yeah, well, I think that was both times. | ||
| I think it was the first, but even during his first time, like when he was just first being inaugurated president in 2000? | ||
| So, right after Clinton? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That inauguration was bad, too? | ||
| Yeah, it was terrible. | ||
| It was almost the same as what you see now, because people had had this Democrat in power for eight years, and they thought, like, yeah! | ||
| And they thought, Gore's a shoo-in, because Clinton's popular. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Same as, like, Hillary's a shoo-in, because Obama's popular. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, you know, a Republican ended up taking it, and they just freaked out. | ||
| And it seems like that always just happens. | ||
| I mean, like, this kind of, like, backlash, like, it always is kind of sold to us as, like, this is new. | ||
| This is like, oh, wow, look at what's going on now. | ||
| Isn't this crazy? | ||
| What crazy times we live in. | ||
| But I look back at my memories of the past and it seems like this is pretty par for the course. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| Now that I'm thinking about it, it's almost like we go through these, like, cycles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if a president gets past one cycle removed from his... | ||
| his tenure then people forgive him they forget and they change their opinion yeah like Reagan like man when I was a kid Reagan was a pariah like people were so upset about Reagan they were so upset and there was the Contra versus Nicaragua trial that was on television with Oliver North yeah and we were finding out on TV Whether or not the government had sold arms and | ||
| lied about it, and then the whole Reagan thing, whether or not Reagan sold arms to Iran. | ||
| The great Jimmy Tingle, hilarious stand-up comedian in Boston, has this bit about it. | ||
| That was when Reagan started claiming Alzheimer's, or when he claimed memory issues. | ||
| Which turned out to be true. | ||
| I mean, he really did have memory issues, and he probably did at the time. | ||
| But they asked him, did you sell arms to Iraq? | ||
| He said, I don't know. | ||
| And Jimmy Tingle's like, Mr. President, if you ever sell arms to people who hate us, jot it down. | ||
| He's like, make a note. | ||
| Put it on the refrigerator. | ||
| Today I sold arms to people who hate me. | ||
| You have to hear him say it. | ||
| I mean, you know, you have to realize, though, like, America's always been a huge arms dealer. | ||
| I mean, we're constantly selling weapons. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, if he didn't remember why he did it, it's probably because there were just so many other transactions. | ||
| I don't think the president personally gets involved too much in that sort of stuff. | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| Our country sells weapons all over the place, and we continue to do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My point was that, like, eight years later, he was the great Ronald Reagan. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Eight years later. | ||
| He goes through the Clinton administration. | ||
| Everybody's done with Clinton, getting his dick sucked in the White House and all that craziness. | ||
| And then as soon as that's over, people start reminiscing to Reagan. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| It's really interesting how we do it. | ||
| And so now Bush went through this period of being hated. | ||
| And he's out of office and Obama goes through his period of being hated for eight years. | ||
| And now that an even more unreasonable Republicans in office, people long to the Bush days. | ||
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| Like, you notice they're trotting Bush out and doing interviews with him like, hey, remember this war criminal? | ||
| Now he's okay! | ||
| He's Uncle Bush. | ||
| It's Uncle Bush here. | ||
| Uncle Bush gonna set you on his knee. | ||
| They superimpose, what is that, protests during the Bush administration? | ||
| Protests from his inaugurations, yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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| What is it saying? | ||
| Fuck Bush? | ||
| Oh, Buckfush. | ||
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Buckfush. | |
| There's a couple of you are not my president things. | ||
| Of course, man. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So, you know, this is all so cyclic. | ||
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| It just happens over and over again, and people think it's new, and, you know, for some, I think, I guess it's the country just has a short memory. | ||
| Dude, what a crazy show this is. | ||
| What a crazy show we're watching. | ||
| The battle to control the world. | ||
| Yeah, political theater. | ||
| Pageantry. | ||
| But, you know, like, it's just, I mean, like, I don't want to get into, like, you already had Alex Jones on the show, so I can't really get into that level of territory, but, I mean, I do agree that these parties are constantly just working together behind the scenes, and that 90% of the issues they agree on, They just make a big spectacle of the little things they actually disagree on to distract us with a show. | ||
| Look, America, look. | ||
| Look at us. | ||
| We're fighting. | ||
| We're fighting. | ||
| Have they stopped paying attention? | ||
| Okay, now we do the real deals. | ||
| Who are we going to bomb? | ||
| Who are we going to invade? | ||
| Who are we going to sell weapons to? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's probably definitely some of that. | ||
| I mean, they're all working together. | ||
| If you watch House of Cards. | ||
| Do you watch House of Cards? | ||
| I watched the first season. | ||
| But when he started pushing people in front of trains and shit, I was like, man. | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| This is the beginning of season two, man. | ||
| If they ain't seen it, whatever. | ||
| Listen, man, I'm only on season three. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I just got into it. | ||
| I've been binge-watching it. | ||
| Binging it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, I really like Kevin Spacey's performance, but it just got a little over the top for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, buddy. | ||
| Well, we all have different standards. | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm not insulting the show. | ||
| Isn't that a funny thing, though? | ||
| Like, if someone likes something and you don't like it, it gets personal. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially, like, music. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's music. | ||
| It's like, you listen to that shit. | ||
| This is really shit you listen to. | ||
| Like, people get mad. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I can get mad, like, if someone's like, you know, I really like Beyonce or something. | ||
| You'd get mad? | ||
| What if you got in the car and someone's playing, like, some, like, electronica? | ||
| You know, like a villain in some sort of a Coen Brothers movie? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, Big Lebowski villain? | ||
| Remember those guys? | ||
| You know, I was in an Uber the other day where someone was playing, like, it sounded like fucking elevator music. | ||
| Like, it was like he was just listening to the shit you hear in fucking elevators, and it was like a 45-minute drive. | ||
| And I'm just like, oh my god, I mean, I can't say anything. | ||
| It's his fucking car. | ||
| This is driving me fucking up the wall. | ||
| Could you bring it up to him? | ||
| Are you allowed to bring it up? | ||
| I mean, I'm sure I'm allowed to. | ||
| I mean, there's nothing that's going to happen if I bring it up. | ||
| I don't want to have that discussion like, hey, can you change your music because it's horrible to me and it's grating on my last nerve right now. | ||
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You're supposed to. | |
| You get control of that music with the app. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| I'm bad at dealing with people. | ||
| With the app? | ||
| Yeah, with the Uber app. | ||
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There's a button that connects to your Spotify. | |
| They're supposed to offer you the aux cord when you get in the car so you can control the music, which is double annoying for the driver, I would imagine, but they're supposed to give you control. | ||
| Really? | ||
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| Whoa. | ||
| See, I've never taken that right. | ||
| So you let them just take over with their shitty music. | ||
| I mean, at the end of the day, they're the ones who have to drive around in this fucking car all day, and I'm just getting a ride. | ||
| So I feel like an asshole being like, no, I'm going to oppose my musical taste on you. | ||
| Because I feel like it's their car, whatever. | ||
| Well, it's definitely their car. | ||
| It's also what's weird is, why does music suck to us, and it's great to some people? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| What is it about a song that you go, oh, that's a fucking great song, and someone else will go, turn that off. | ||
| It kind of reminds me of something with food. | ||
| People have different food preferences and shit. | ||
| I always wonder, I'm eating a pickle, and I like it. | ||
| Other people hate pickles. | ||
| So, when they eat a pickle, does it taste different to them than it does to me? | ||
| Or is it the same taste, but they just don't like that taste? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I kind of wonder the same thing about the music thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think for sure. | ||
| I think it's probably a visual thing too. | ||
| Not visual in terms of taking account of space and mass, but visual in account of what each individual image does for you, like how it looks to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the overall feeling it gives you. | ||
| I think it's different for everybody. | ||
| It just has to be. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| I mean, what else would account for all the different tastes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The obvious different, especially music. | ||
| But then this, like, taste that you vary yourself. | ||
| Like, you ever catch yourself in some weird mix? | ||
| Like, you hit iPod Shuffle or something like that, and you catch some weird mix of songs that you like, and you're like, wow, they just do not go together. | ||
| Like, these two are just really weird back-to-back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, going back to the food thing, like, you know, there's certain foods you might like, but maybe together they're not so great. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| And there's certain foods you would think would not be good together but are amazing, like pineapple and anchovies. | ||
| See, I don't like either of those by themselves. | ||
| Dude, on pizza? | ||
| Pineapple anchovy pizza? | ||
| Oh, you're one of those pineapple on pizza people, huh? | ||
| Very rarely. | ||
| Only with anchovies. | ||
| I'm not a Hawaiian pizza guy. | ||
| I don't even think Hawaiians are Hawaiian pizza people. | ||
| Who's getting that ham and... | ||
| I'm a big... | ||
| If it's Canadian bacon, why is it a Hawaiian pizza? | ||
| That's a real good question, man. | ||
| That's a super good question. | ||
| Why is it? | ||
| And how the fuck is that bacon? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| If you go to Canada and say, I want some bacon, they don't bring you that shit. | ||
| Yeah, that's some... | ||
| Yeah, what is that? | ||
| That's like a Belgium waffle. | ||
| Why is it from Belgium? | ||
| Is that a waffle? | ||
| The fucked up thing is, I went to Belgium. | ||
| And I got a waffle there. | ||
| And it's nothing like what they fucking say. | ||
| You know, Belgian waffles here, they're like round, and you eat it on a plate with syrup. | ||
| They give you like... | ||
| It's like street food there. | ||
| You get like a little tiny fork, and there's like a small waffle. | ||
| It's not even round. | ||
| And they put whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| It's not just syrup. | ||
| They'll put like... | ||
| Fresh strawberries and all kinds of shit on there, and you just sit there and eat it with this little tiny ridiculous fork. | ||
| And it's totally different than what's called a Belgian waffle in America. | ||
| So it's like one of those, um, you ever go to one of those crepe stands? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's in the mall, you know, like they make you little crepes and waffles and stuff and they put Nutella on them and a bunch of different toppings. | ||
| Yeah, I would say it's probably closer to that. | ||
| Yeah, that's goddamn delicious. | ||
| That's way better than a Belgian waffle. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| But a Belgian waffle is easy to do. | ||
| You know, put it in that mold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stamp that sucker down, pull out that waffle. | ||
| TJ and Joe Rogan talk about waffles. | ||
| It's important to talk about waffles. | ||
| Waffle House, one of the best road foods ever. | ||
| Because you can guarantee you're going to get the same thing pretty much everywhere. | ||
| No one else can do hash browns that I like other than Waffle House. | ||
| They do some goddamn good hash browns. | ||
| They're putting crack in those fucking hash browns. | ||
| Their waffles are ridiculous. | ||
| Dude, and you see so much crazy shit at Waffle Houses, too. | ||
| I was at a Waffle House, and the service was terrible. | ||
| I was in there for like an hour and a half, but goddamn, the show was amazing, because the cook and the one waitress hated each other and were fighting the entire time. | ||
| And it got to the point where she runs out, she's in the parking lot crying, and he's like, giving me free food. | ||
| Don't report this, and you got free food! | ||
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| It's like, alright. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Went to another Waffle House when I was a, not really a kid, but like, you know, a teenager. | ||
| The guy that ran that Waffle House was a fucking psycho. | ||
| The cook? | ||
| He would just yell at you. | ||
| He came over to my table one time, and he's like, this waitress is getting off soon. | ||
| I think you guys need to go. | ||
| Go pay your bill and go. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| I'm like, okay. | ||
| I mean, this is open 24 hours, right? | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| He's like, no, close it out because she's got to go. | ||
| I guess she wants the tip before she leaves or whatever. | ||
| So that was weird. | ||
| One time a drunk came in there holding like a bottle of wine or something. | ||
| And he was just like, no, get that out of here. | ||
| That's not allowed in here. | ||
| Get out. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Just like very intense all the time. | ||
| I think he was like a retired cop or something that was just didn't, I don't know, didn't get his pension or some shit, so he's at a Waffle House. | ||
| Maybe he spent his pension on the Waffle House to make it big. | ||
| I mean, he wasn't the owner. | ||
| He's just a fucking cook. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Just a cook who's like cantankerous and angry and would yell at you and attack you. | ||
| Weird food places, man. | ||
| Like weird food places you travel in and you, for a brief period of time, enter into these people's worlds and watch them interact with each other. | ||
| Iron skillet. | ||
| I went to this Montana diner, this really small diner outside of Billings, Montana with a few of my friends. | ||
| We pulled into this diner and we had just got done hunting for five days in the mountains. | ||
| We were dirty and we were tired. | ||
| We had just been camping this whole time. | ||
| We just got off of a boat. | ||
| And this guy had a like a big piece of cardboard like four by four like four feet by four feet cardboard with photos of all these different Marines that he had propped up on like an easel board and Had all the different soldiers that had died under like Obama's watch in this one particular mission And he kept pointing out like these are these are 11 of our boys That died because of this president so-called president that we he's not my president not | ||
| my president Yeah, it got to that weird shit and he was coming over to the table and talking to us while like while we're there eating I'll never forget that guy It was just so bizarre. | ||
| Like, you had to go, yep, it's terrible. | ||
| Yep, it's terrible. | ||
| Can we eat and leave? | ||
| Like, we were stuck. | ||
| While this guy, like, hovered over us with his lecture, his PowerPoint presentation. | ||
| I mean, he had, like, photos of these guys up on this thing, and he wanted to talk to everybody about it. | ||
| Yeah, I had a weird food experience in Colorado. | ||
| I drove all the way from Columbus to Seattle when I was moving. | ||
| Because we had... | ||
| Like, dogs and lizards and all kinds of shit. | ||
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So... | |
| We just decided to drive it. | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| You know, to make kind of a road trip of it, we stopped off in Colorado for, like, a couple days. | ||
| To check that out, because I'd never been there. | ||
| We're at the hotel restaurant. | ||
| The waiter we had was fucking, like, the most bipolar fucking dude in history. | ||
| Because... | ||
| We order this, you know, fruit and meat cheese tray or whatever. | ||
| Meat and cheese and, you know, some other shit. | ||
| And there's some nuts on it. | ||
| And somehow it comes up. | ||
| My girlfriend has, like, nut allergies. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And, you know, they're not severe. | ||
| They're really mild. | ||
| And she just avoids it by not eating those nuts. | ||
| You know, if something touches them, they're fine. | ||
| But this guy, he's over there like... | ||
| Why didn't you tell me she had a nut allergy? | ||
| And we're just kind of like, uh-huh. | ||
| This is not a joke. | ||
| This is a serious matter. | ||
| Don't laugh. | ||
| We take this very seriously here. | ||
| I'm not exaggerating this fucking guy either. | ||
| He's like accosting us about this shit. | ||
| He's like, I don't even know if I should bring that out. | ||
| I don't even know if I should bring that out now. | ||
| And we're like, just bring it out. | ||
| She just won't eat the nuts. | ||
| She's like, she cannot have anything from the tray. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Nothing from the tray can she... | ||
| And we're like... | ||
| And he kept asking, like, is it airborne? | ||
| Is the nut allergy airborne? | ||
| Some people have an airborne nut allergy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But she doesn't. | ||
| And she told him that. | ||
| And he's persistent. | ||
| And he wouldn't... | ||
| He'd, like, ask it, but not wait for the answer. | ||
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| And then he'd come back, and he'd be totally pleasant, like, so you guys are on the da-da-da. | ||
| And then he'd leave, and he'd come back again, and he'd be crazy again. | ||
| Like, she held up her glass, because he's, like, refilling, and her glass is kind of far away, so she, like, you know, holds it out, and he's like, put that back on the table! | ||
| Put that back on the table! | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| You're a fucking psycho. | ||
| That whole city, though, was high-strung as shit. | ||
| Because I remember I went to a pot shop there... | ||
| And the guy at the pot shop, he was like... | ||
| First of all, I had to go to a waiting room, which is just weird, and take a number. | ||
| And then I was called into another room where I thought I was going to be able to buy weed, but instead it was just another waiting room. | ||
| And then I finally get to the fucking little broom closet where they keep their meager supply of fucking weed. | ||
| And there's this guy behind the counter, and he knows shit. | ||
| Was like, what's up? | ||
| I'm like, please, what? | ||
| And then, we had four people with us. | ||
| He proceeds to do it to everybody. | ||
| So, four times in a row, what's up? | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| Like, I smoke weed to, like, chill out and relax and shit, but you're just like... | ||
| And he's bitching about how hard his job is there, too. | ||
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He's like, man, I can't wait till we get off work so we can get really high. | |
| I mean, we're already high, but we're gonna get real high. | ||
| That guy gets to vote, too. | ||
| And then there was a, when I was leaving that fucking place, there was, like, a syringe, like, on the floor of the fucking weed shop. | ||
| I'm like, this fucking, this Colorado weed shit is a joke. | ||
| I think it's way better in Washington. | ||
| You just go into a fucking store like any other store and buy it. | ||
| Well, I think what they're worried about more than anything is people robbing them. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That's probably why they make you go through steps, like step one into step two. | ||
| Yeah, phased introduction. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, also, they can isolate you from the outside if the cameras are monitoring you. | ||
| It probably makes people less likely to try to attempt an armed robbery. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But you could arm-robbed any fucking place. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| It's not like that's exclusive to weed shops. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| It's just a scary thing, what they're doing, where they're not allowing them to use credit cards, and so they keep large chunks of cash around. | ||
| I think they're trying to resolve that. | ||
| I don't know if they have yet. | ||
| But it was a giant issue for a long time, because they would have to hire these, like, Like, mercenaries, essentially. | ||
| You know, guys who work for, like, Blackwater and stuff like that. | ||
| Those kind of guys. | ||
| To carry the money around. | ||
| Or to guard the people that are carrying the money around. | ||
| Did you hear Jeff Sessions recently? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Saying that... | ||
| Marijuana is a destructive fucking drug that is almost as bad as heroin. | ||
| Was it today or yesterday? | ||
| I think it was either today or yesterday that he said it. | ||
| I saw it. | ||
| It's hilarious that this guy is in charge of anything. | ||
| Only slightly less awful was his words. | ||
| Only slightly less awful than heroin. | ||
| Someone is, without a doubt, If that's what he's expressing, someone's without a doubt influencing that. | ||
| There's more than just his opinion here. | ||
| They have these meetings when they're discussing policy or they're discussing how they proceed. | ||
| This isn't as simple as this one wacky dude's opinion and they leave him alone with his opinion. | ||
| He has ultimate power. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| There's a bunch of vested interests. | ||
| There's a bunch of people that have a tremendous amount of money at stake. | ||
| And would lose money if marijuana was legal. | ||
| That is 100% why that guy's doing it. | ||
| Sure, but I mean, his personal opinion towards weed has always been really horrible. | ||
| But you can't lie like that. | ||
| Like, that's just a fucking lie. | ||
| You don't have any data to show that that's even remotely true. | ||
| Heroin kills fuckloads of people. | ||
| People, their bodies are ravaged by it. | ||
| Pot doesn't do a goddamn thing to you. | ||
| It might make you a little loony. | ||
| Yeah, just a... | ||
| I mean, like, you know, it's not even comparable. | ||
| No, and if you might be... | ||
| They had schizophrenia exams, where they looked at all the population, and they said, you know, marijuana contributes to schizophrenia, and they were like, well, actually, no. | ||
| If you look at the number, it's always 1%. | ||
| And if those 1% are smoking pot or not smoking pot, it's still... | ||
| The schizophrenia numbers have always been around 1%. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, schizophrenia can be exacerbated by marijuana. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| But it's not... | ||
| It doesn't cause it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not a brain scientist, nor are you. | ||
| Are you? | ||
| I've dealt with schizophrenic people. | ||
| You know them, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've known a few. | ||
| I think it probably varies like any other kind of mental illness. | ||
| But what pisses me off, though, more than even the personal angle of, like, I'm a pot smoker and this affects me personally. | ||
| I mean, that does get my goat a little bit, but what really pisses me off is that... | ||
| Trump is Mr. Jobs. | ||
| This industry, this $7 billion recreational marijuana industry is employing like 100-150 people part-time and full-time that are along some rung of the ladder of like, oh, well, either they're working for the growers or they're doing the packaging or they're helping with the shipping. | ||
| So this is like a huge job creator. | ||
| It's a huge moneymaker. | ||
| This is what Trump ran on. | ||
| Trump's like, I'm the jobs president. | ||
| I'm gonna bring jobs back. | ||
| If they go after this industry, that's the exact opposite of bringing jobs back. | ||
| That's shutting jobs down. | ||
| What's shutting jobs down, though, with the kind of people that we don't really want around the first place? | ||
| I mean, they can sort of surmise that people that are running pot shops are probably pretty left-wing, you know, pretty quickly. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so you're making, almost you're making more money for your opposition, whereas the pharmaceutical companies, they're nonpartisan. | ||
| Don't forget the alcohol industry, too. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Both of them. | ||
| The prison unions. | ||
| Prison guard unions. | ||
| That's what's really crazy. | ||
| You find out that prison guard unions have worked to try to keep marijuana legal. | ||
| You're like, wow. | ||
| Like, what you're really saying is, we want to extract money by putting people in cages. | ||
| That's what you're really saying. | ||
| Well, that's what you get when you do a private prison industry. | ||
| Goddammit, DJ. I mean, I've done videos about this fucking private prison industry. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And, you know, I'm always surprised by just how tepid the response is. | ||
| People are like, eh. | ||
| Yeah, whatever, you know, prisoners. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| It's like, yeah, but what about the fact that plenty of people don't belong to be there? | ||
| What about the fact that these people who run these prison industries sponsor legislation to put more people in jail in a country that already has the disproportionately highest prison population of any country on the planet while claiming to be the fucking land of the free? | ||
| Yeah, we put a fuckload of people in jail. | ||
| Tons. | ||
| I think... | ||
| What is the statistic? | ||
| Some bananas thing about the percentage of people that the United States puts in jail as opposed to the rest of the world. | ||
| But the rest of the world kills people. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look. | ||
| They don't bother locking you up as much. | ||
| Yeah, in some other countries, they just take you out in the back and fucking shoot you in the head. | ||
| Did you see that mass grave they just found? | ||
| No. | ||
| They found a mass grave in Mexico. | ||
| Really, really bad one, apparently. | ||
| They found as many as 250 bodies. | ||
| Cartels? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See if you can find that, Jamie. | ||
| It's a creepy story, man, because some teachers found it. | ||
| They were looking for something else, and I think they just found some bones, and they started digging in. | ||
| And they've only... | ||
| Done, like, an excavation of a certain percentage of the land, too, that they're looking at. | ||
| And, like, it might be as much as thousands. | ||
| So there could be, like, extensive mass graves throughout the entire area. | ||
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| They didn't know this existed. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| More than 250 human skulls found in Mexico. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mass grave containing more than 250 human skulls was uncovered in central Mexico, most likely the victim of drug cartels over the years. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Either that or one very prolific serial killer. | ||
| That guy's really getting shit done. | ||
| Yeah, this is terrifying, man. | ||
| And it's really terrifying that this massive drug war is happening to fuel the illegal drug market over here. | ||
| And it's happening with a country that's connected to us. | ||
| It's right there. | ||
| We have this massive issue going on, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, why do you think the build a wall rhetoric is so effective? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it's just even more... | ||
| Well, that's like the least effective option. | ||
| No, it is. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| It's just the best option would be to make it legal and regulate everything and to let adults do whatever the fuck they want to do. | ||
| And if some asshole wants to take meth, let them take meth. | ||
| Let them buy meth. | ||
| He can buy Adderall already. | ||
| A lot of these people who are doing these crazy drugs, they're only doing it because better drugs aren't available, they can't find them, they're too expensive. | ||
| Like, if you just legalize and regulate all these markets, which we know for a fact are going to exist no matter what, because people are just gonna do fucking drugs, whether it's legal or it's not legal. | ||
| Do you know the only variable, the only thing that I really worry about, though, is opiates. | ||
| Because I feel like if you made opiates legal, if you made them more accessible, I just know way too many people have lost their lives on them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know way too many people that have taken them, and then they just, the whole thing got real slippery, and they just started fucking up at work, and they were on them all the time, and they got real foggy. | ||
| I mean, look, we live in a country full of obese people, and, you know, I'm pretty obese, but That's terrible for your health. | ||
| Probably not quite as bad as severe opiate addiction. | ||
| Nah, it's not even close. | ||
| But, you know, like, it leads to a whole plethora of health problems. | ||
| And look, I mean, like, we live in a... | ||
| Either we believe that people have the freedom to make their own choices about their own bodies, or we don't. | ||
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| And to me, you know, even if there is negative repercussions, like, there's negative repercussions to being pro-Second Amendment. | ||
| You know, we do have more gun violence because of that. | ||
| I still believe in the Second Amendment. | ||
| I do believe in... | ||
| Probably more regulation for it, but... | ||
| You just fucked up right there, son. | ||
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| You just opened up the gates of hell. | ||
| Open the gates of hell. | ||
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This motherfucker! | |
| You think you're smarter than the founding fathers? | ||
| You're fucking... | ||
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Were you gonna update the Second Amendment? | |
| I mean, we've already updated... | ||
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Goddamn Waffle House waiter. | |
| We've already updated plenty of aspects of the Constitution. | ||
| Not officially, but, you know, like the privacy clause, that's just fucking gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the Fourth Amendment is just, you know, it's basically null and void at this point. | ||
| I don't want anybody doing heroin. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I don't think that it should be illegal. | ||
| I just, I think that stuff, I bet in certain circumstances, under severe pain, certain opiates, especially like natural opiates, probably feel wonderful. | ||
| If you have like a severe back pain, you can't rest, and you take something like that. | ||
| The real problem is those fucking pills get in people's DNA, man. | ||
| They get attached to you in some terrifying way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And people get into them more than almost anything I've ever seen. | ||
| And they actually are, like, you know, the gateway drug thing is kind of mocked because it's attributed to weed, but those pills usually are a gateway to, you know, begin injecting. | ||
| If they don't inject, I mean, they'll inject if it works just as good, and that's the only way they can get it. | ||
| And that's what happened with a lot of people in Massachusetts. | ||
| One of those episodes of Anthony Bourdain's show, he was out like near, I forget what area of Massachusetts, but it was all about how many people had been devastated by heroin addiction and heroin overdoses, and a lot of it came out of the OxyContin addictions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They got the pills really easily, and then when it became less, when they started clamping down the regulations and made it harder for people to get prescriptions, then people turned to heroin because they were addicted to opiates. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was just a part of who they were at that point, you And, you know, the whole country right now, I mean, like, because there's a big opiate crisis, you know, they're trying to... | ||
| Doctors are not writing as many of these opiate prescriptions, and they're trying to make it harder to get, so a lot more people are turning to heroin. | ||
| So now we just have a heroin crisis. | ||
| Yeah, and people don't know how much to take, and they're overdosing and dying. | ||
| It's so spooky. | ||
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And... | |
| These same people who are already addicted to it, who are already going to seek it out, are already going to find it. | ||
| First of all, there's no stigma so they can actually go seek fucking treatment for it. | ||
| It's pretty difficult to admit you're a heroin addict when you're scared that you might go to fucking jail just for what you do. | ||
| Well, they don't use the best stuff to get people off drugs anyway. | ||
| Supposedly the most effective, and this is not from my personal experience, but the most effective drug to get people off drugs is that Ibogaine stuff. | ||
| Ibogaine, which is from the iboga tree, and apparently it has a massive impact on people that are addicted to heroin and pills and alcoholics and things along those lines. | ||
| Apparently that stuff just fucking knocks it right out of your system. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, and like really excellent rate of people staying off of it. | ||
| An excellent percentage of people stay off of it permanently, as opposed to a lot of the other methods. | ||
| It's hard for people to change their ways, you know? | ||
| The people get into these little patterns and they get into these habits, and if one of those habits also is physically addicting as well, like heroin is, or like pills are, it's just really hard for people to kick that shit. | ||
| It's terrifying to me, man. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I understand, kind of, because I do smoke. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How much do you smoke? | ||
| You know, at the worst, it was probably like two packs a day. | ||
| Oh, dude, that's a lot. | ||
| And now it's probably like half a pack a day. | ||
| That's better. | ||
| I've been down, though, to as low as like three or four cigarettes a day. | ||
| Why don't you just like limit yourself to something like that? | ||
| Because the only way I can actually do it is to get... | ||
| My girlfriend or my brother or somebody to dole them out to me, because I don't have the willpower to just say, I ain't gonna do it. | ||
| What if you, like, in the morning... | ||
| And then it puts a lot of stress on them to have to regulate it and me fucking bothering them, and I'll fucking deviously just, like, sneak out, go to the gas station, have, like, another pack, so I'm smoking those four, but I'm also secretly smoking, like, another four or five off somewhere else. | ||
| Well, that's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, I'm terrible. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| Absolutely awful. | ||
| Do you have a problem with that type of behavior? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Or do you just accept it? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I realize when I'm doing it, like, wow, I'm a total piece of shit for doing this. | ||
| But is it just the moment feels so good to suck on that cigarette? | ||
| No, it's really not, because it's fucking horrible. | ||
| Every time I smoke a cigarette, I'm like, why am I doing this? | ||
| But what happens is there's that moment before... | ||
| Or more than a moment. | ||
| Like, the lead-up to smoking a cigarette is like, God damn. | ||
| That cigarette, when I get it, it's gonna be so fucking good. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's gonna make me feel just fine and all this. | ||
| And then I start smoking, and I'm like, man, this fucking sucks. | ||
| And then I put, you know, I'll smoke it, or I'll smoke half of it and put it out or whatever. | ||
| And then, you know, next thing I know, 30 minutes to an hour later, it's like, man... | ||
| That next cigarette I smoke, it's gonna be so fucking nice. | ||
| Oh, okay, so it's the feeling before this cigarette that you, the anticipation, and then the immediate reward is what? | ||
| The immediate reward is, like, disappointment. | ||
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Really? | |
| It's just like, this sucks. | ||
| This doesn't taste good. | ||
| This isn't really changing my brain chemistry in a significant enough way. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| It looks cool though. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm a rebel. | ||
| The visual element is nice. | ||
| I like seeing the smoke just fucking climb up and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That big fucking little stream of smoke and it curls around and gets bigger and does all those fucking little weird acrobatics and shit. | ||
| But it does put you into a certain mindset if you're acknowledging that you're doing something absolutely ridiculous that's detrimental to your health. | ||
| You know it is. | ||
| There's no debate. | ||
| No debate is what it's terrible for. | ||
| And you're like, I'm going I don't give a fuck. | ||
| It's not even I don't give a fuck, though. | ||
| I'm just fucking stupid. | ||
| I'm just like, wow, I'm just a fucking drone for this shit. | ||
| It's a little bit of that, but it's a little bit of I want this cigarette in my body right now more than I want to be healthy later. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Because you're healthy enough to smoke it. | ||
| Instant gratification. | ||
| Instant. | ||
| You're just giving a little piece of yourself... | ||
| To death. | ||
| Just a little piece. | ||
| Let me take a little piece now. | ||
| Here you go, death. | ||
| I'm just going to give you a little bit of my life force. | ||
| You just take that, and in exchange I'll puff on this stupid stick of leaves. | ||
| Yeah, it's like there's a bank account. | ||
| How much do you put in? | ||
| How much do you take out? | ||
| When you're smoking cigarettes, you're greedy. | ||
| You take a lot out of your account. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're just digging into your account, and all of a sudden, you know, you go to the shop, and you're like, yeah, can I get this on credit? | ||
| And they're like, dude, you're out of credit. | ||
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| It's over. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| You fucked up your lungs, son. | ||
| You burnt them off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's really kind of what it is, right? | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I don't have any argument with that analogy. | ||
| I wouldn't say stop doing it if you don't feel like you need to. | ||
| You know, I went to my fucking doctor recently, and they gave me a book, and I haven't read it yet, but... | ||
| Supposedly it's gonna help. | ||
| On cigarettes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mike Lacey, who owns a comedy and magic club, his wife works with people that have terminal lung cancer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he was explaining how they die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's explaining that essentially you're drowning on your own fluid. | ||
| And that you're gasping for air as you leave this life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He goes, and people are in sheer horror and terror. | ||
| And he said, this is not something you ever want to do. | ||
| Maybe I should visit the fucking, uh, the smokers' ward or some shit. | ||
| Man, maybe you should. | ||
| The thing is, when they go bad, they go bad away from us. | ||
| They go bad, they're in those hospitals somewhere, locked up in a room, and the nurses get to see them, and they'll tell you. | ||
| The nurses are the ones you talk to if you want to find out how horrible it is to watch someone die from lung cancer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the way Mike Lacey was explaining it to Brian Redband, meanwhile it went right in there and right out there and fell on the ground. | ||
| Yeah, you know, that could happen, or I could get hit by a bus tomorrow, so who gives a shit? | ||
| Yeah, I might not live forever anyway. | ||
| Yeah, just too much desire to get that feel. | ||
| It's also, it's like a rebellious attitude that goes with it. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about my health. | ||
| Why do I give a fuck about anything? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I do have problems finding things to be passionate about or care about, but I guess in some ways I've tried to cultivate that because... | ||
| You know, like George Carlin and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I loved that idea of, yeah, I'm an observer here. | ||
| Like, I'm not going to be part of this. | ||
| I'm just going to look at it from the outside and be detached from it. | ||
| And I've kind of tried to cultivate that in myself, but I've also noticed, like, it's kind of hard to draw upon my own passions the more I do that. | ||
| So I don't know if I need to find a happier medium or what, but... | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So in your analysis of a subject, like when you're doing these YouTube videos, you're almost like an outsider looking in, and you feel like there's a good strategy to that, maybe? | ||
| Or a good creative angle? | ||
| I think it's... | ||
| I try to make it... | ||
| I guess I try to use it as a thing to bolster objectivity. | ||
| Like, I don't want to be just saying what the crowd wants to hear. | ||
| I don't want to be... | ||
| I think like this is gonna be the most entertaining or whatever like I want it to be like here's what I really fucking think about this Right, right And I think you have to have like some kind of a wall of detachment because you know People aren't always gonna react well to it and shit too Yeah, that's a really good point. | ||
| You almost have to be in a sort of anti-social place, because if you're too social with these people, you won't judge them correctly. | ||
| I mean, like, look, people are very worried about, especially lately, about, like, advertising and shit influencing what people do and say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People don't really realize that it's really just as much of a danger to become beholden to the audience or to the mob and to go along with, here's what we really want to hear from you. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And it's like, well, that might be what you want to hear, but that's not what I'm gonna fucking say. | ||
| Hey, TJ, how about you stick to this? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Go back to your lane. | ||
| What's your lane, bro? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you sound like you've experienced this as well. | ||
| Yeah, well, look, there are a lot of people out there in this world, and if you want to get opinions from every single one of them and consider them individually without meeting any of those people, to me, that's shitty data. | ||
| Okay, that's not good data. | ||
| If I know you, I've talked to you, if you tell me something, and you're a smart guy, I'll consider. | ||
| I'll be like, okay, well I know TJ, and TJ, if he's saying that, he wouldn't be saying it if he didn't believe it, so I have to think about what he's saying, and I'll have to go through my head and find out whether or not I agree with him. | ||
| I'd have to, you know, objectively look at it. | ||
| You could be talking to a million insane people. | ||
| You really, there's no way you could individually react to each one of them. | ||
| But you can get a sense of whether or not people are upset at you or not. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| You can get a sense of whether or not Logical people make sense like that makes sense feel like you've crossed a line look I've noticed this really weird shift in the zeitgeist In the last like year or so And it's kind of started with this whole fake news thing You know the left was saying Trump got in because of fake news and then Trump saying oh the all the attacks against me are fake news and And I've seen on YouTube, | ||
| like, we used to do this kayfabe stuff on our show. | ||
| Kayfabe is like wrestling talk for, like, you know, fake. | ||
| The pageantry of it, like, we're just pretending drama and shit. | ||
| We used to do that all the time on my show, The Drunken Peasants Podcast. | ||
| Suddenly people turned on it. | ||
| They're like, we don't want this anymore. | ||
| And it's, you know, and I got shit because I did this sponsored ad for this app called Candid. | ||
| And people are like, you know, everything you say is bullshit because you did this sponsored spot for Candid and you're fucking a shill. | ||
| So we dismiss you. | ||
| And it's because everyone's on this big fucking authenticity kick. | ||
| But they're not really actually skeptical, though. | ||
| They just want a demagogue to spew, like, here's what you already think is true. | ||
| I am here to validate all of your feelings and all of your opinions. | ||
| And a lot of these people seem to want me to be that. | ||
| But I'm not that. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to want you to form to whatever their opinion of you is, and if you deviate from that, there's going to be a certain amount of people that are going to be upset. | ||
| But it's up to you to figure out like what... | ||
| The worst thing, I think, for any performer or artist is to get boxed into like kind of a fake thing, like maybe a character that you do or something along those lines, and then you can't get out of it. | ||
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| Rick James, bitch! | ||
| Yeah, well, like Bobcat Goldthwait had the hardest time, because he had that, you know, that character that he would do, screaming and yelling Bobcat character. | ||
| And then he wanted to just eventually be Bob Goldthwait. | ||
| And people were like, no, fuck that, man. | ||
| Where's the Bobcat thing? | ||
| Like, it took him years to get away from that. | ||
| Love his films, by the way. | ||
| Oh, his films are great. | ||
| Did you see the Bigfoot movie? | ||
| No. | ||
| Willow Creek. | ||
| It's a fucking horror movie. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| He did it like a Blair Witch Project type thing of these people up there Sasquatch hunting. | ||
| I don't want to say any more about it. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| I'm like a big skeptic. | ||
| I don't believe in a lot of this stuff, but I'm really fascinated by things like Bigfoot and aliens and the Loch Ness Monster and the Flat Earth and the Hollow Earth and all this stuff. | ||
| Don't believe in any of it. | ||
| In fact, I think most of it's like totally fucking ridiculous, but I find it really fascinating. | ||
| Because I kind of view it as almost like modern mythology. | ||
| You know, you kind of see the genesis of how people talk, you know, people used to talk about, like, succubuses coming in in the night and, you know, stealing their essence and shit and seducing them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you kind of see, like, the modern versions of that is like the alien that takes you up into a ship and shoves a probe up your ass or whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Well, I think the alien thing absolutely has something to do with dreaming. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because a giant percentage of these abduction events occur when someone's either napping or when someone's sleeping. | ||
| They're always unconscious. | ||
| Almost always. | ||
| Sleep paralysis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's not even just that. | ||
| It's probably psychedelic compounds that are released in the brain during REM sleep. | ||
| The reason why you have these wacky fucking dreams. | ||
| I mean, you have dreams that are so insane. | ||
| They're like a psychedelic trip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, imagination has control of the psychedelic chemicals that power your brain and runs you on a trip. | ||
| I mean, that's where ours are. | ||
| I had... | ||
| I don't really suffer from it too bad anymore, but, like, in my late teens and early 20s, I had really bad sleep paralysis. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| And also, accompanying that was... | ||
| I forget if it's called hypnopopic hallucinations or hypnagogic hallucinations. | ||
| But I could tell you, right, you know, like... | ||
| I'll be laying in bed, or I would be at the time, and I would kind of wake up, but I wouldn't be able to move my body. | ||
| And aside from that, you feel the overwhelming sense of like, there's another presence here. | ||
| And it's ominous. | ||
| And you fucking, uh, if you have the hypnagogic hallucinations or the hypnopopic hallucinations, one is when you hallucinate as you're going into sleep, one is when you hallucinate as you're coming out. | ||
| I have the one where you hallucinate as you're coming out of sleep. | ||
| So, I would wake up, and, uh, probably the first time it happened, I was 11, and I saw this robed figure, like, walk across my bedroom. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| And then when I was 15... | ||
| Did it look like a real thing? | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| Like, it looked totally real. | ||
| It didn't look like it was transparent or anything? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It just looked like... | ||
| It was a dude with a robe. | ||
| Yeah, it didn't look like a dude, because it was like four feet tall. | ||
| Oh, like a gnome. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I assumed it was like... | ||
| My uncle's a big UFO guy, so I'm like, I saw an alien. | ||
| And at the time, I was convinced of that. | ||
| Later, I became more skeptical. | ||
| And when I was like 15... | ||
| I woke up and I saw this fucking figure standing at the foot of my bed. | ||
| You ever seen the movie Dark City? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It did that Sleep thing from Dark City, and I was like, okay, and I went back to sleep. | ||
| Holy shit, dude. | ||
| I woke up the next morning, I'm like, uh, if that happens again, I'm gonna fucking tackle this thing. | ||
| You sure that wasn't just a dream? | ||
| Uh, I'm pretty sure I was awake. | ||
| Because two weeks later, I saw it again, and I did like I planned to do. | ||
| I fucking jumped up and I tried to tackle it. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| It just kind of disappeared in my arms when I got to it. | ||
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Dude. | |
| And I was like, okay. | ||
| Well, that was okay. | ||
| I was relieved because I'm like, it was obviously a hallucination. | ||
| And I look up and its fucking head is floating there. | ||
| And then its head vanishes. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| But these are just hallucinations. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Or maybe your fucking house is haunted, son. | ||
| They're not interdimensional beings. | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| You sound so confident. | ||
| I've read pretty extensively about it, because when that shit happens to you, you want to know what's going on here. | ||
| So when that shit happens... | ||
| And actually, they can induce that state. | ||
| They can put you into sleep paralysis, and you'll feel the presence, and you'll experience seeing things and all that stuff. | ||
| They can put you in that mindset. | ||
| It's a matter of electrically stimulating certain areas of the scalp, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is really fascinating, isn't it? | ||
| That they can actually target areas of the scalp and induce certain feelings and certain thoughts... | ||
| Yeah, we kind of delved into this last time we talked. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Consciousness and the afterlife and things of that nature. | ||
| I wonder, though, like, what would cause... | ||
| You to recall like an image from a really fucking cool movie like that and have it be like, what weird combinations of things would cause, you know like, something causes a hallucination to take a certain form. | ||
| Like what is it? | ||
| Is it your insecurities and fears? | ||
| Is your nightmarish vision? | ||
| It's probably just the same thing that leads you to have certain visions and dreams and things. | ||
| I mean like it's part of your memory and psychology just manifesting itself. | ||
| And imagination as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was a guy, I was reading about his experiences, and he would see the guy from the front of the Exorcist poster standing in his room. | ||
| He'd see that silhouette holding the briefcase and shit and looking up at the building. | ||
| Dude, when I was a kid, that movie was fucking terrifying. | ||
| Like, if you could watch it today and never fully impact what it did to people like me... | ||
| What year is that? | ||
| I want to say it was like 76. Does that make sense? | ||
| Which means I was like nine years old. | ||
| Find out what year The Exorcist was. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| I remember seeing the 25th anniversary. | ||
| 73 is when it came out. | ||
| 73. So I was younger than that. | ||
| Who the fuck let me watch that? | ||
| That was ridiculous, Mom. | ||
| Mom, how dare you? | ||
| But I remember being scared out of my fucking mind at this movie. | ||
| Yeah, there's the image right there. | ||
| That movie fucked with my head for years, and I started thinking about demons and the idea of being possessed and what could happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You watch it today, you'll laugh your ass off. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I was watching that movie at my uncle's house, and my mom came in the room, and she's really easily frightened and stuff, and she just thought it was hilarious. | ||
| The Exorcist is hilarious. | ||
| I mean, it's funny by today's standards, but if you go watch it in the context, watch horror movies that came around around the same time and before it, and it's like, okay, you can kind of see why this blew people's minds at the time. | ||
| Well, when it happened, when that movie came out... | ||
| There had never been anything like on that level where a little cute little girl had becomes a demon and starts ramming a cross into her pussy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just fuck me father, fuck me father, slamming. | ||
| Was she saying fuck me Jesus? | ||
| What did she say? | ||
| I think she was just saying fuck me. | ||
| I don't remember what she was saying. | ||
| I think she was just like fuck me, fuck me! | ||
| Oh Jesus Christ. | ||
| I like when she's like your mother sucks cocks in hell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a beautiful moment in cinematic history. | ||
| I couldn't believe that that was actually in a movie, that they said that in a movie. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, they would have trouble getting away with that fucking now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just given the age of the actress. | ||
| Oh, they wouldn't be allowed to. | ||
| It would be illegal now. | ||
| It would be illegal. | ||
| I mean, I don't know, it didn't, like, show anything, uh... | ||
| But, yeah, it would probably be controversial, even if it was made. | ||
| Just making that little kid act like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, look at those pictures of her, like, when she was screaming and yelling. | ||
| First of all, that little kid was fucking terrifyingly good. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And, you know, they, uh, she was... | ||
| They didn't, like, have much care for her well-being or anything, either. | ||
| Because, like, you know that scene where she's spasming and flopping up and down, they were doing that with wires, and that fucked her back up for life. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Total disregard for her safety or well-being. | ||
| That fucked her back up for life when she was a little kid making this movie? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What did it do to her back? | ||
| Do you know specifically? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It just gave her back issues. | ||
| I don't know if they were severe or what, but something got pulled or something got out of alignment. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I mean, you saw how violently they had her flopping up and down on that bed. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| So, you know, the standards were different, I guess, at the time. | ||
| But I think most people should realize, don't permanently injure a child just to get an effect you want in a movie. | ||
| My kids are watching this TV show. | ||
| It's like an old Disney show called Good Luck Charlie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Charlie's a little baby. | ||
| It's a baby baby. | ||
| It's the cutest little baby. | ||
| But it's a baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, maybe a year old or maybe two at the most. | ||
| Like, it's a tiny little thing. | ||
| And that's the main character. | ||
| Like, you imagine, like, not only do you not get to choose whether or not you want to be famous, want to be an actor, because you're a fucking baby, you can't even talk yet, you're already on TV, but the whole show's about you, so you can't quit. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, I was wondering, like, when I'm watching movies, like, you see babies, like, crying and stuff, and, you know, like, how'd they make that baby cry? | ||
| They bite him. | ||
| Does it seem ethical? | ||
| It doesn't really seem ethical. | ||
| It's definitely not ethical. | ||
| It's fucked up, man. | ||
| Like, that's why when people, like, make fun of that American Sniper movie for using that little shitty plastic baby that was obviously fake, I'm like, whatever. | ||
| It's better than fucking having some real kid and getting it to cry and stuff and whatever. | ||
| I blame Clint Eastwood on that. | ||
| Like, you should have framed that better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just frame away from that. | ||
| You could have sold it better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You could have filmed that in a different way. | ||
| He films things a lot of times in a very sort of traditional way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's a great director and everything like that, but how the hell did he not see that rubber baby? | ||
| Like, that looks so fake. | ||
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It looks so stupid. | |
| He's pretty old. | ||
| You know, give him a little... | ||
| I guess, but doesn't he have somebody there with him in the editing room going, Mr. Eastwood, that's a rubber baby. | ||
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It's pretty obvious. | |
| Who's going to tell Dirty Harry that the scene doesn't work, dude? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Remember when... | ||
| That whole movie was very... | ||
| That was a weird time when that movie came out. | ||
| That was like a movie where you had to say you liked it. | ||
| If you didn't say you liked it, you risked violence. | ||
| I just didn't see it, so... | ||
| I saw it. | ||
| I've seen it since then, but at the time, I didn't watch it. | ||
| It just wasn't a very good movie. | ||
| No. | ||
| A lot of people loved the movie, and to them it was really good. | ||
| To me, it was so much, and this is probably my personal bias of being out here. | ||
| And being in Hollywood and knowing how writers work and knowing how they structure these things and what kind of effect the studio wants to have on the audience for a big mainstream movie. | ||
| You could feel the heavy hand of Hollywood all over it. | ||
| You could feel the way they were... | ||
| The wording the things that he said and just the whole thing was like so affected It's like I'm not getting a good sense of what this guy's real life was propaganda Yeah, and then you know and then you find out about the Jesse Ventura thing where Jesse Ventura sued him because he made up some story and him up and Apparently there was a few other stories that weren't true as well that were in that book That fucked Jesse Ventura's career up a little bit still does Still does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was just on. | ||
| He was talking about it. | ||
| It cost him over a million dollars in legal fees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's been doing it for, what, four years now? | ||
| He got a judgment in his favor, but then they shiftily took it away somehow. | ||
| I forget the exact... | ||
| Yeah, he lost on appeal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not good. | ||
| The whole thing's not good. | ||
| Because he's a hero. | ||
| Well, it's really... | ||
| You know, truth is truth. | ||
| And you can't just make stuff up about people. | ||
| And, you know, maybe he should have dropped the lawsuit when the guy died. | ||
| You know, maybe that would have been better for everybody. | ||
| But that's his decision. | ||
| He felt like he was wronged and he felt like he was going after the publishers. | ||
| When the legend becomes truth, print the legend. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But... | |
| It's just I think also you're dealing with the pressures of war being so alien to most people that when you and I who have not been to war sit around talking and debating about what it's like To be like the most decorated sniper ever or a guy who experiences that much action and sees that much death and to really try to Rationalize what goes in and out of their mind and like what their grasp on reality is like and then there's also the Opportunity that this guy has | ||
| if you're leaving the military and writing a book Why not just make a bunch of crazy shit up and make it even better to sell more fucking books? | ||
| You know, I mean It's very possible that someone would take that attitude. | ||
| Like, look, I'm not going to tell you most of the truth anyway, because it's none of your business, and some of it might be classified, and some of it might be... | ||
| Illegal for me to talk about, but maybe I make up a bunch of crazy shit. | ||
| Sell some books. | ||
| Now I'm in the selling me stage of my life. | ||
| Yeah, you know, and look, he was probably always doing that to some extent, you know, because, you know, you don't become the top American sniper unless you already have a preconceived notion of yourself as like, I'm this badass, and I'm this great warrior, and anything you can say to add to that, you're gonna say. | ||
| Well, I think maybe. | ||
| Or maybe you could just be a badass sniper, right? | ||
| Couldn't you just be some dude who just excels? | ||
| Well, I mean, but you look at his character and the sort of stories that he's made up and shit, and it's obvious that while he did have actual skills, he was also fond of embellishing the skills he did have to make himself even more legendary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And why is the question, you know, because there are people that think that the horrors of war, like we talked about, bend the mind and bend perception and bend the way you look at reality in some people more severe ways than other people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The request or the task that we give young people where they go off to war at fucking 18 years of age, and we ship them off, get them to shoot people, and then come back and integrate. | ||
| And try to be a normal part of society and then with almost no education, almost no assistance, no help, no carrying them along, no, you know... | ||
| I mean, you should be looking at them and talking to them very carefully. | ||
| You've asked them to do a crazy thing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, especially at the... | ||
| You know, like, 18 is around the time when I was just willing to dump, like, pancakes on some dude's lap because he fucking, you know, said a cross thing to me. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| To take people at that age and mindset who haven't even really... | ||
| I mean, I guess they've kind of reached the age of reason and stuff in the eyes of society, but, you know, they're not like fully formed adult minds yet. | ||
| It's like, hey, you're pretty much still a kid in a lot of ways. | ||
| Go overseas and kill some other people's fucking kids. | ||
| Let's just see what happens. | ||
| Go over there and blow some brains out. | ||
| Ooh, you blew out more brains than anyone else. | ||
| You're a hero. | ||
| You're great. | ||
| That's a weird way of looking at it, but that's what it is. | ||
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| You know, when you're asking someone to do something before they're a certain age, like, you have a certain amount of authority over a 17-year-old or an 18-year-old when you give them a gun and tell them that they're supposed to do it. | ||
| They believe they're supposed to do it because you're older and you tell them that they're supposed to do it. | ||
| It's the reason why 40-year-old guys don't sign up for the Army. | ||
| Because when a guy's 40, might have a family of his own, might have a life of his own, he's like, wait, wait, wait, why the fuck are we going over there? | ||
| What have these guys done to us? | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| When are we charging? | ||
| At dawn? | ||
| Okay, what's the plan? | ||
| Like, you're going to ask questions. | ||
| They're not going to just trust you at face value. | ||
| And that's no good. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| When you want soldiers, you want someone who just listens. | ||
| Who are you listening to though? | ||
| Who are you listening to and why are you listening to that guy? | ||
| And how did you get into this situation? | ||
| Well, they don't think about that. | ||
| They're fucking 18. It's just asking people to go from that to regular life. | ||
| It's such a bizarre request. | ||
| Yeah, my stepdad tried to get me to join the military when I was younger because he saw me and like, your life has no direction. | ||
| You know what you need? | ||
| Military. | ||
| I thought about doing it. | ||
| I didn't really give it much thought. | ||
| I went to the recruiting office and let them give me a sales pitch. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, so you went that far. | ||
| I never went into a recruiting office. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| I took a little aptitude test, and they're like, you could be military intelligence. | ||
| I'm like, eh. | ||
| But I heard that a lot of times they sucker you in with that, like, you're going to be military intelligence, but then if you don't cut it, they're like, well, you didn't cut it. | ||
| You're a grunt now. | ||
| Yeah, I have heard that. | ||
| I've heard that recruiters will bullshit you and, you know, tell you they're gonna get you some cool job inside the military, and then once you get in there, they give you a door to fuck the job they were thinking about giving you in the first place. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like a college where you, you know... | ||
| Yeah, you get to choose your major and all this. | ||
| Yeah, there's none of that. | ||
| No. | ||
| They'll decide. | ||
| In many ways, it's like, it's sort of communist in a way. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You get paid very little, you work very hard, everything is for company. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's really kind of weird. | ||
| Yeah, well, America has a strange relationship with that sort of collectivism. | ||
| When you think about it that way, it has to probably be that way in order for you to function together as soldiers in war. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't think you... | ||
| I don't think you really want a unit where everyone's constantly questioning orders. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, as much as we kind of place value on that, like, you know, it's good to think for yourself and it's good to question things. | ||
| If you're trying to be an effective military, that's not what's good. | ||
| What's good is you do what you're fucking told. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So that's probably why they use 18-year-olds to begin with, but... | ||
| The problem is, you know, even if we're going to accept the reality that that's how it has to be, there has to be more oversight about where are we going to send these people, what reasons have to be in place for us to send these people. | ||
| And, you know, we're still in Iraq, we're still in Afghanistan. | ||
| Obama, during his presidency, bombed seven countries with drone strikes. | ||
| By the way, I don't know if you've ever seen the report that like 90% of drone strikes didn't kill their intended targets. | ||
| Yeah, 90% civilian casualties. | ||
| Yeah, so terribly ineffectual. | ||
| Our country is spreading bad will across the world, especially in the Middle East, which is like a hotbed of fucking crazy fucks anyway. | ||
| Just doing it that way in general, robots flying from the sky, you gotta make sure those things work. | ||
| You can't be that off where you're killing... | ||
| It was in the high 80%s, wasn't it, last time we checked? | ||
| What the civilian casualty rate was? | ||
| Unintended casualties for drone strikes? | ||
| You know, like, if you have any weapon that has, like, 10% effectiveness at killing its target, you know, like, that's not a good weapon. | ||
| That's a piece of shit. | ||
| It's just, but we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but listen, this way we don't have to send soldiers, and we just fly it in, and we just shoot the missiles, and we get the fuck out of there. | ||
| Like, that's really what they're saying. | ||
| I can see the appeal of that, but make sure the technology is there. | ||
| In a way, it might be, like, the most racist way to kill people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We're not even willing to risk our own lives to kill you. | ||
| We're just going to kill you from afar. | ||
| And we're not as concerned about killing civilians. | ||
| Because no one's there doing it. | ||
| Because we're all the way in Nevada with a fucking Xbox controller. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And everyone we're killing is just some brown Muslim people, so it's okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Nearly 90% of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets. | ||
| And some of these still might have been bad people. | ||
| I mean, they're hanging around with fucking terrorists and shit. | ||
| Some of them were. | ||
| I mean, we saw in the Yemen raid that plenty of those victims were kids. | ||
| Is there footage of a drone, like, watching a drone shoot down something? | ||
| Is there? | ||
| I want to see what it looks like. | ||
| Like, see if you can pull up a video. | ||
| Is it from the drone's point of view, or is it people seeing the drone? | ||
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It is. | |
| Usually you'll see it from the drone perspective. | ||
| I would like to see what it looks like, like a drone launch something. | ||
| If you were on the ground, you saw a drone launch something in the distance. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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Just... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it usually is. | ||
| Like, so dehumanized. | ||
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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. | |
| You're dead. | ||
| Insane, too. | ||
| I mean, the way it takes people out. | ||
| Just some dudes walking down the street. | ||
| And then they empty into that. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look how he's mov- oh my god. | ||
| Can you imagine that? | ||
| Just walking down the street. | ||
| Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| You're dead. | ||
| Fucking fire- fireball of death consumes you. | ||
| Instantly. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Incinerated off the face of the fucking earth. | ||
| Well, that WikiLeaks one. | ||
| The first one. | ||
| Yeah, you see I'm trying to get away and shit. | ||
| Collateral murder, remember they call it a collateral murder? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They put that video out and you get to see, like, how they're reacting to gunning these people down the street and they find out it's the wrong people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, whoops! | ||
| Yeah, like, wow. | ||
| And that this got out and it shouldn't have gotten out. | ||
| You know, that was the big WikiLeaks rub, right? | ||
| They shouldn't have released that. | ||
| We shouldn't know. | ||
| Yeah, we shouldn't know when our tax dollars fund the murder of civilians. | ||
| The accidental, unintended murder of a guy with a camera that you thought was a gun. | ||
| Yeah, but when you see the statistic that 90% of these strikes are killing the wrong people, I mean... | ||
| You know, I mean like it's happening all the time. | ||
| But isn't it crazy how shit their optics are that they can't tell the difference between a rifle and a camera at distance? | ||
| Yeah, and it's not even just the optics too. | ||
| It's bad intelligence. | ||
| Because they don't have to actually risk any troops, they'll just be like, someone says like, yeah, I think he's at this house. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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Boom, boom, boom. | |
| Yeah, that's true, right? | ||
| If they were on the ground, they wouldn't treat it that way. | ||
| If they were on the ground and we saw people on the ground, they were walking down the street and they saw the photographer with the camera, they probably wouldn't treat it. | ||
| There's no way they would just open fire and gun everybody down as soon as they saw the people. | ||
| So you just gun everybody down that you run into on your way to the bad guys? | ||
| The suspected bad guys? | ||
| But when you have that level of detachment where it's like, oh, this is like a fucking video game. | ||
| Oops, I killed some civilians. | ||
| Okay, we'll deduct some points from the scoreboard. | ||
| Yeah, because if you were on the ground, and the same thing happened, wouldn't you be judged differently? | ||
| Like, if you were on the ground, and you were moving down the street, and you saw a bunch of people in front of you, and one guy had a camera, and you just gunned them all down. | ||
| The women, the kids, everybody in front of them. | ||
| And you're like, well, you know, hey, they shouldn't have been out here with their kids, and I didn't think that was a camera. | ||
| Well, that's essentially exactly what the guy said from the helicopter, right? | ||
| Yeah, but it's different. | ||
| It's different because he's not there. | ||
| There's a level of detachment. | ||
| There's that wall of separation. | ||
| That wall of separation is kind of fucked. | ||
| Oh, it's terrible. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| 90%. | ||
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90. So... | |
| Let's just keep doing it that way then, for sure. | ||
| Well, we're going to. | ||
| There's nothing we can do about it. | ||
| Look, when I talk about the collusion between the Democrats and the Republicans, this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. | ||
| This doesn't stop. | ||
| Military stuff. | ||
| Yeah, like, this stuff doesn't seem to stop. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Whether it's D or R, this military, this American empire that we're trying to maintain across the globe, that keeps happening. | ||
| That's actually a very good point, because that stays consistent. | ||
| And then the battle over transgender bathrooms take front page of the news, but the war aspect of it stays consistent. | ||
| The drone aspect stays consistent, if it doesn't ramp up. | ||
| And it looks like it's ramping up a little bit with Trump, right? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I think that remains to be seen. | ||
| Yeah, does it? | ||
| Obama was pretty bad about it. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I mean, he was extremely violent. | ||
| Drone strikes increased under him. | ||
| Now, some of that's just because the technology improved. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of things about him that were so confusing. | ||
| The drone strikes is just one of them. | ||
| How about the attacks on whistleblowers? | ||
| Like, whatever happened to what you said in your shit? | ||
| Like, you had that Hope and Change website. | ||
| Like, the whole thing was gonna... | ||
| You're gonna offer protection to whistleblowers. | ||
| Well, you have, like, one of the biggest whistleblowers in the history of the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The idea of transparency, too. | ||
| That was a big thing. | ||
| Transparency, transparency. | ||
| But then you prosecute whistleblowers who revealed the illegal activities of the government. | ||
| That's why when Trump was like, he wiretapped Trump Tower, I'm like, so what? | ||
| He wiretapped America. | ||
| The NSA was, and still is, just gathering everyone's text messages, everyone's phone calls, archiving that shit in a big server somewhere. | ||
| So... | ||
| Hasn't he walked that back though? | ||
| Hasn't he said now that he doesn't think that it was a wiretap, that it was like something else? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| The point is that all the phones are fucking tapped now. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So what does it matter? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That information's already there. | ||
| And you know, the crazy thing is that not only is it there for those agencies, but it's there for anyone who can hack into those agencies to get... | ||
| And you know, if the CIA, the NSA developed it, the CIA, we now know, has its own version of it. | ||
| I wonder how many private companies have their own version of this fucking server. | ||
| Yeah, when we found out that the CIA has their own version of it, everybody was like, what? | ||
| Them too? | ||
| Well, they're even worse than the NSA. How do you know? | ||
| Well, I guess I can't say with certainty they're worse, but the NSA's never been involved, as far as I know, in toppling the democratically elected leaders of other countries and installing puppets that are good for American business interests. | ||
| The CIA has. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Numerous times. | ||
| Yeah, the idea of them all being able to listen to anybody's telephone calls, regardless of whether or not you're a terrorist, regardless of whether or not you're a felon, regardless of whether or not you're the nicest person of all time. | ||
| They're like, yep, let me just check. | ||
| Yep, you're still the nicest guy of all time. | ||
| Yeah, and they're using it for... | ||
| I mean, it's not just being used for terrorism. | ||
| They're using it for their drug war as well. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, the drug war is going to have to ramp up if this marijuana legalization keeps kicking in. | ||
| They're going to have to figure out some other way to arrest people. | ||
| They have to keep the same jobs. | ||
| I mean, they have a lot of jobs. | ||
| They're going to have to justify. | ||
| I mean, Jeff Sessions could come to the pot shops, like where I live, and I guess there's pot shops around here, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they could fucking raid them. | ||
| They could shut them down. | ||
| Yeah, they could legally. | ||
| Yeah, because it's still illegal under federal law. | ||
| Obama chose not to do that. | ||
| He chose to respect the will of the states. | ||
| But the Trump administration is at least signaling that it's not going to. | ||
| Because of Sessions, you think? | ||
| I don't think it's just because of Sessions. | ||
| I think Sessions is where he is partially because they want to do this crackdown. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| We'll have to find out about that. | ||
| But the crackdown is not going to go well. | ||
| It's a terrible idea. | ||
| You let the genie out of the bottle. | ||
| You gave people their freedom. | ||
| That will be the death of the power of the Trump administration if they actually go through with something so stupid. | ||
| It would be stupid economically as well. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It would show... | ||
| I mean, you want to talk about transparency. | ||
| It will show really clearly... | ||
| Who your loyalty is to. | ||
| That it's not to the will of the people. | ||
| That it's to these companies that are benefiting from keeping marijuana illegal. | ||
| Period. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And then we'd have to figure out a marijuana coalition. | ||
| We've got to figure out a way. | ||
| Like, there are fucking a hundred million of us, I guarantee you, in this country. | ||
| A hundred million people that smoke pot. | ||
| That's a lot of fucking people. | ||
| And that number's gonna grow. | ||
| It's a third of the country. | ||
| Yeah, and it's gonna grow the more things are people are like, I can't believe Rogan really believes a hundred million people's product buy. | ||
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You fucking idiot. | |
| You fucking waste product buy. | ||
| There's a lot of fucking people. | ||
| I might have made that number up. | ||
| Let's say I did. | ||
| I fucking, I mean, I believe it. | ||
| I believe it's probably at least close. | ||
| Because even when I was living down south and I was hanging out with conservatives who love Trump... | ||
| They smoked a little weed. | ||
| Yeah, they're smoking weed. | ||
| Not a little weed. | ||
| They're smoking weed like crazy. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's fun to get high. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with it. | ||
| The only thing that's wrong with it is the fact that it's been buttoned down into our brain... | ||
| Deep, deep in our memory, through propaganda, that it's bad for you. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| If you looked at the actual effects it has on you, like we were talking about schizophrenics and blaming marijuana on schizophrenia, but it still seems across the board to be 1%. | ||
| It's the same thing with dummies and lazy people. | ||
| When dummies and lazy people find out about pot, it ruins the idea of it for other people. | ||
| They go, oh, well, look, it's associated with this loudmouth dummy. | ||
| This loudmouth fucking lazy person never gets anything done. | ||
| He's always broke. | ||
| He's always asking for money. | ||
| That's a pothead. | ||
| Potheads don't get shit done. | ||
| Don't be a pothead. | ||
| And then you get that in your head and you just run with it. | ||
| We know there's plenty of potheads that are really industrious and hardworking. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of them. | ||
| You can't attribute something that was always part of someone's personality and say, well, marijuana caused that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It doesn't totally change the nature of a person. | ||
| It's not that powerful of a fucking drug. | ||
| Nor does coffee. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nor does alcohol. | ||
| Nor do cigarettes, for that matter. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, alcohol can change some people. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It was a bad example. | ||
| Canada's justice system is crumbling as cannabis raids continue. | ||
| So, they've been busting all these fucking pot places. | ||
| I thought you guys had your social justice warrior president and everybody was going to get to pick their own gender pronouns and now you're raiding pot places. | ||
| Okay, look at this. | ||
| 6,500 cases in provincial court could be soon dropped due to delays, including 38 for homicide or attempted murder. | ||
| One terrible case last year, a man named Kenneth Williamson was convicted of raping a minor over 100 times, but because of lengthy delays in taking his case to trial, his conviction was overturned. | ||
| Wait, is that so they could prosecute more marijuana? | ||
| No, this is just saying that their system is in such crisis, and this marijuana case where they're arresting all these people for marijuana, it's insane because their justice system is already in the crisis. | ||
| So it says considering the justice system crisis, cannabis should obviously be the lowest priority for police and the courts, but it's not. | ||
| Not only are police launching more raids against dispensaries than ever before, but ridiculous charges for small-scale cannabis crimes are continuing from coast to coast. | ||
| So they have a justice system that's so broken that they can't even convict... | ||
| People who raped minors a hundred times. | ||
| They can't take them to trial. | ||
| But it's that broken, but they're still trying to fucking catch people for smoking weed and just raiding dispensaries and shit like that. | ||
| What a waste of fucking time. | ||
| If I had a guess, I would say it's some sort of compartmentalism, in that the drug people, they don't go after the other crimes, and then there's a legal system that's backed up. | ||
| But to put more people into the legal system, just because you have to somehow or another Justify the position that you're in. | ||
| A cop, a DEA cop, whatever they're called up there. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| You got a broken system. | ||
| You're preying on people. | ||
| You're locking people up, putting them in a cage. | ||
| If you want to impress us, then convict that fucking rapist. | ||
| Don't fucking prosecute people who are smoking weed. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And by the way, what you're doing right now seems like a crime. | ||
| You're locking people up in a cage for a plant that everybody on the planet knows is not bad for you. | ||
| So if you just decide that because of some fucking bullshit thing that's written on paper, that you should be able to go against all the science that's available today, all the common sense and the will of the people, and you should be able to go into people's houses, go into people's businesses, arrest them, take all their money, take all their pot... | ||
| That's a crime. | ||
| That sounds like a crime. | ||
| It sounds like you're using your position and you're using it to just mark one up on the scoreboard. | ||
| We got some convictions today, good solid ones. | ||
| Bunch of dopers. | ||
| Caught us a bunch of dopers. | ||
| Had to let that crazed pedophile go, but we got all the dopeheads. | ||
| Yeah, finally got them dopers. | ||
| The real scourge of society. | ||
| That guy fucked a hundred kids, but you know what he didn't? | ||
| He didn't fuck them over by giving them pot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At least he wasn't smoking no weed. | ||
| At least those kids are going to remember what he did to them. | ||
| It's not going to damage their memory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're gonna remember it. | ||
| They're gonna remember it explicitly. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's just, I can't believe that in this day and age, that shit is still going on. | ||
| It just seems like... | ||
| And Canada, I thought, with this Trudeau guy, was gonna be more progressive than ever. | ||
| Which... | ||
| Canadians are complaining about it like crazy, and I've had Jordan Peterson on the podcast, and he hates what's going on now with this push towards being as open-minded as possible, with all these accepting of the gender pronouns, and that you're going to have to start putting people... | ||
| You're going to have to start processing cases through the Human Rights Council, because if you don't use a person's proper gender pronoun, it could literally be considered a crime. | ||
| I think all that stuff on the left, when it goes way far... | ||
| It gets really crazy, but... | ||
| It's probably a good thing to balance out the stuff on the right, and people figure out some sort of comfortable medium. | ||
| But he's not being that at all. | ||
| If the president is allowing this to go on, he's not being this progressive president. | ||
| He's just not. | ||
| If he's only going to be progressive towards transgender pronouns and whatever other ridiculous laws that they're swamped with, This is just a terrible precedent to set. | ||
| Allowing them to lock people up for pot in 2017 is a fucking criminal waste of resources. | ||
| A criminal waste of manpower, a criminal intrusion on the freedom of those people that you're locking up. | ||
| Criminal on the disruption that you're putting into their lives and the money that you're taking away from them for trading in something. | ||
| And out of your economy as well. | ||
| Yes, and fucking your economy up. | ||
| And these people are trading in something that is very valuable to the community and to the human beings that consume it. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I consider myself probably more liberal than I am conservative, but when I see the priorities of liberals being identity politics shit, gender pronouns and stuff, and then so much of the real issues just get ignored like this, that makes me hesitant to even say, like, I'm a liberal or I'm more left-wing than right-wing or whatever, because I'm just like, your priorities are totally fucked. | ||
| They're totally out of order. | ||
| You know, apparently in Canada, they're fighting all these fucking politically correct identity politics battles, but they can't deal with the pot issue. | ||
| Police raids against pot dispensaries are actually up, and they're trying to charge people with petty fucking weed-smoking crimes. | ||
| And this is a thing that people always go on about. | ||
| Like, it's because it's pot, it seems like it's not a big issue. | ||
| It's like, it's not, we got bigger fish to fry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| TJ, okay? | ||
| I don't know if you've been paying attention to the stock market, okay? | ||
| TJ? Do you know about the war in Afghanistan, TJ? Yeah. | ||
| Okay, we've got problems. | ||
| Real problems. | ||
| This fucking pot thing. | ||
| You goddamn potheads. | ||
| If it's not for your pot, oh, why do I do whatever... | ||
| But it's not that. | ||
| And this is what people have to realize. | ||
| It's about personal freedom. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's about a person telling you what you can't do and enforcing it to the point of putting you in a fucking cage. | ||
| And that thing which had been an accepted part of civilization for thousands of years and is today accepted. | ||
| It's an accepted part of civilization right now. | ||
| But there's just these... | ||
| People that don't engage in it that don't understand it and that feel like they have the right to go and lock people up for it You know when the Trump administration started signaling that they were gonna Take on weed or that they were thinking about it at least that it was on the table So stupid. | ||
| At that point, I made a video where I was basically making all the cases why this is terrible. | ||
| This is a bad idea. | ||
| I made the economics argument. | ||
| I made the personal freedom argument. | ||
| I pointed out the tremendous amount of revenue this is generating for the states that have legalized it. | ||
| And a huge part of the response was just like... | ||
| Yeah, oh yeah, of course he goes after Trump when Trump goes after his precious weed. | ||
| That's when he cares. | ||
| That's the only thing that got him to care. | ||
| It's like, what are you talking about? | ||
| I made fucking so many cogent arguments that hold water about the economic and personal liberty ramifications of something like this, and all you want to focus on is my personal usage of this fucking substance. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| It's a good thing to talk about, because it'll get you talking about it, like, right now. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It'll get you. | ||
| It'll poke at you. | ||
| They know. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Because they know that people like you and I really do enjoy our marijuana. | ||
| And when you try to take away the pot, we really do get upset. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was kind of on the give Trump a chance bandwagon until they started signaling this stuff. | ||
| So that's really why I got shit. | ||
| It's a very, very foolish thing to try to step in in 2017 with all the science and all the information and the public opinion and to say that marijuana is something that can get you locked up. | ||
| Get you locked up! | ||
| That it's almost as bad as heroin, for fuck's sake. | ||
| He's so stupid. | ||
| That's a silly man. | ||
| That guy needs a pot brownie more than anything in this life. | ||
| He just needs a quarter. | ||
| Just give him a quarter. | ||
| Let him sit there and let him think about his grandchildren. | ||
| Let him think about fishing and let him think about just napping in the sun and going to meet the good lord in a few years. | ||
| You don't have much time left, motherfucker. | ||
| You want to ruin it for potheads? | ||
| You're barely alive. | ||
| Your hair's white, your posture's bad, and you're standing there lying. | ||
| You're lying on television about heroin and pot being, like, really close. | ||
| That's a crazy person who doesn't know what pot does. | ||
| You're talking about pot, you obviously have no idea what it's like. | ||
| It's like a person who's colorblind, describing some sort of a kaleidoscope. | ||
| You don't know what you're even talking about. | ||
| For a guy like him, if you want to have a person who's talking about individual experiences, they should have had, like if you're talking about someone who's talking about the effects of a chemical and whether or not it should be legal, they should have had some sort of experience with that chemical. | ||
| They should know what it's doing. | ||
| They should understand it, especially if it's safe, something like marijuana. | ||
| So for you to talk about it and to have these ridiculous... | ||
| You can't... | ||
| You can't invest one evening in a safe environment. | ||
| They'll do it in a laboratory or a hospital somewhere, pad up the rooms, and give you a pot cookie. | ||
| And then put Pink Floyd's The Wall on. | ||
| Someone, tell this fucking guy what it really is. | ||
| Because he's just talking out of his ass. | ||
| I don't know if this is just apocryphal or if this is an actual story, but I remember there being something about him saying that he thought the KKK were good guys until he found out they smoked weed. | ||
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No. | |
| That was, I think that was wrongly attributed to him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that, not only that, there has been evidence that he's done many things for civil rights. | ||
| I had read that, too. | ||
| But I think that's, it just might be the case of people being overzealous and trying to paint, I mean, you could find things, I'm sure that you've said or that I've said, if you take them completely out of context, you could paint a very different opinion. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| It's fucking very hard to form an opinion of someone, like a legitimate opinion of someone without actually knowing them. | ||
| But you can have an opinion of their policy. | ||
| It's not that hard when they go out and say that pot is nearly as dangerous as heroin, because at that point you're just like, this person is either delusional or is willfully deceptive. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the important part about it is it's not just a person. | ||
| It's a person with an extreme amount of power. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a person in a very dangerous position of enforcing laws. | ||
| And you go, okay, well, you think that? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Like, it just drives me nuts because I think it helps people. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I really do think it's probably one of the best elements in terms of a happy, healthy society, staying grounded and being a little more kind. | ||
| I think it gives you a certain percentage more of kindness. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I've definitely seen it make people more empathetic, more tolerant towards one another. | ||
| I've seen people who have anxiety that it helps. | ||
| I've seen people who have anxiety that it exacerbates their anxiety too. | ||
| The edibles do, for sure. | ||
| Like the story I told about my brother at the beginning of the show. | ||
| But by and large, I know a lot of people with bad anxiety who smoke weed and it makes them feel better, it makes them feel more comfortable in social situations, stuff like that. | ||
| You know what it does too, bro? | ||
| It makes you fucking talk about weed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How come you guys keep talking about weed? | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You like weed. | ||
| Enough already, bro. | ||
| I can read that now. | ||
| I can read it in the comments. | ||
| It's there. | ||
| It's already there. | ||
| Someone's typing it up right now. | ||
| Stop talking about weed. | ||
| I'm gonna get them. | ||
| I'm gonna get them. | ||
| I know TJ reads these. | ||
| Motherfucker. | ||
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I'm gonna get them. | |
| Don't talk about this. | ||
| Talk about this instead. | ||
| Suck it. | ||
| Feel the burn, you motherfucker. | ||
| Well, if you don't want us to talk about weed, then tell Jeff Sessions to stop signaling he's going after it. | ||
| Jeff Sessions needs to get high on mushrooms. | ||
| Get that guy in a nice room with velvet curtains and some gentle Jefferson airplane from the 1960s. | ||
| Real low candlelight. | ||
| Put some blacklight posters on the wall. | ||
| You don't need that. | ||
| He needs the blacklight. | ||
| I want him to just sit there and stare at a poster and watch it change shapes and colors a bunch of times and like, whoa. | ||
| Yeah, you know what we do? | ||
| We do blacklight posters. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| But only, only... | ||
| It's hard to imagine that fucker on shrooms. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
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Easy. | |
| I see him wearing like an African garb. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like some sort of macrame beads around his neck and shit. | ||
| But all the posters on the wall, they're all that Bruce Lee poster from Enter the Dragon with the blood across his chest. | ||
| That's the greatest velvet poster of all time. | ||
| It's the ultimate trailer park kung fu master poster. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Have that motherfucker up. | ||
| Have him watch that. | ||
| Watch all the things it turns into. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Poor old guy. | ||
| He's gonna go to his grave without trying mushrooms. | ||
| He's gonna go to his grave thinking weed is as bad as heroin. | ||
| Maybe he took mushrooms and that was the revelation he had. | ||
| Wow, marijuana is almost as bad as heroin is. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| Because it doesn't kill you. | ||
| And it's actually better for a lot of people for pain than even heroin is. | ||
| Especially edible pot. | ||
| Edible pot is supposed to be really good for people that have chronic pain. | ||
| Just a massive reducer of inflammation. | ||
| But you can function on it. | ||
| Especially physiologically, you can function. | ||
| If you do something you already know how to do and you're high on pot, especially pot edibles, it doesn't have any performance decreasing elements to it. | ||
| It doesn't decrease your performance. | ||
| In fact, a lot of people do it right before they do jujitsu because they think it increases their performance. | ||
| I've known people who get high before they go work out, because they're like, yeah, you know, it's gonna keep me more focused and, you know, especially if you're smoking like a strong sativa strain, it might give them a little energy burst. | ||
| Yeah, you feel it, man. | ||
| You feel like the fibers of your muscles. | ||
| It's great before yoga. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't really do a lot of like physical activities that much, but like if I'm gonna do like stretching or something, it's nice to be high and just like, you know. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| Your muscles are way more relaxed and stuff. | ||
| You're able to get... | ||
| You have, like, flexibility you don't really have if you're just stone-cold sober. | ||
| And all your tension is still there. | ||
| And it feels really good. | ||
| Like, when you're stretching your high, it feels like, ooh, you're supposed to be doing this. | ||
| You should do this more often, dude. | ||
| Like you just have a better accounting of what the signals your body sending you because I think when you're when you're sober You know you can try to think about all your different areas and tune into the body and all the the various points of contact where the Elbows meet the forearm and think about all the muscle tissue, but you have to like really Go through it Like, step by step and be really conscious of what you're doing. | ||
| When you smoke pot, it's just there for you. | ||
| I really enjoyed watching you fight with Steven Crowder about this, by the way. | ||
| Oh, he's a silly boy when it comes to pot. | ||
| He's a silly boy overall. | ||
| I've had some dealings with him. | ||
| The pot thing is interesting though. | ||
| He didn't want to even debate it. | ||
| Like when we were pulling up the information, he thought I was being a bully because we were pulling up things that showed contrary to what he was saying about car accidents. | ||
| I've since looked into it and the American Automobile Association has some statistics where they think that it's increasing. | ||
| There's an increased number of people that have marijuana in their system when they have the car accidents. | ||
| But the real problem with that is there might be just as much of an increase in those people smoking marijuana in that area. | ||
| It might not be related to the accident. | ||
| Just because it's connected to the accident doesn't mean it caused the accident. | ||
| If you're going to make the car accident argument, too, you've got to realize alcohol is causing way more traffic accidents than weed is. | ||
| Well, that was what they were talking about. | ||
| In these places, there's a lot of the places where people are smoking pot. | ||
| There's a decrease, a decrease in DUI fatalities. | ||
| There's a decrease in violent crimes. | ||
| There's quite a few different statistics to look at, but Colorado seems to be saying there's a decrease in these car accidents and in DUI-related incidents. | ||
| You know, Stephen Crowder wanted to sue me, too. | ||
| Why do you want to see me? | ||
| We were on the same network for a while on YouTube, and it was called Polypop. | ||
| And the guy that was my assigned... | ||
| I forget what the positions called the fucking Facilitator or whatever the fuck he had the same one as I did and he told me you know that video you made about Steven Crowder and That that shit cuz he got in a fight with some union guy on footage and he was like Oh, yeah by this union thug and I punched him. | ||
| I looked at the footage. | ||
| I'm like Wait a minute this guy Gets up from the ground. | ||
| He's facing away from you. | ||
| It looked like someone pushed him from behind. | ||
| Did you see the whole video? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, the beginning of it, the guy threw a punch at him. | ||
| Well, the guy was on the fucking ground... | ||
| At one point. | ||
| Yeah, but you don't really see what happens with him. | ||
| You see the guy throw a punch at him first. | ||
| I'm very familiar with the video. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I looked at it. | ||
| The guy's in his face. | ||
| Can we maybe see the video? | ||
| The guy's in his face. | ||
| The guy comes close to him. | ||
| They get into some sort of a grappling situation where the guy physically manhandles him. | ||
| Alright, hold on. | ||
| This is on Crowder's channel. | ||
| I want to see the... | ||
| There's like an unedited version of this somewhere. | ||
| But you can see the full altercation when it does happen. | ||
| Let's take a look. | ||
| Even on Crowder's channel. | ||
| Scroll ahead a little bit. | ||
| I want to get to... | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| That's the guy. | ||
| That's the guy. | ||
| That's the guy who hits him. | ||
| Oh, wait. | ||
| The guy's telling him to back the fuck up. | ||
| So he puts his hands up and backs the fuck up. | ||
| That's the guy that fights him right there. | ||
| The guy with the mustache. | ||
| Which guy? | ||
| The mustache dude. | ||
| Oh, this guy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You see that? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| There's a missing piece of footage there. | ||
| But in the footage I saw, you don't see that guy attack him first. | ||
| You see that guy get up from being on the ground... | ||
| On his stomach. | ||
| Oh, I see what you're saying. | ||
| So something happened. | ||
| And so what I was thinking is, did Steven Crowder push this guy? | ||
| I don't know, because there's no footage on there. | ||
| But I surmised, based on what I looked at in the footage, that this guy was maybe pushed and then got up and then started wailing on Crowder. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And I put that out there, and here's the interesting thing. | ||
| He said he was going to sue me for what I said about it. | ||
| He then later went to court and a judge looked at the footage and kind of came to the same conclusion I did and said, I don't think that this went down the way you're saying based on the footage I see. | ||
| He lost that court case and then he had to drop any sort of idea of a lawsuit against me because a judge had already ruled that the tape was bullshit, didn't really show what he thought it should. | ||
| There's also instances where I challenged him to debates back in the day, not recently. | ||
| But he would never acknowledge me. | ||
| I mean, one time he did send his, like, little brother after me. | ||
| His brother? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I don't know if it was his younger brother or his older brother. | ||
| I think it was his little brother. | ||
| Was like, you're a fucking faggot or whatever. | ||
| I'm like, why won't your brother debate me? | ||
| Because we were at the time on the same network. | ||
| You're saying he sent him after you physically? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Just on Twitter. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You gotta specify that. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm thinking two dudes are looking at each other outside a bar. | ||
| He didn't come and try to fucking fuck me up or anything. | ||
| He's just talking shit on Twitter. | ||
| So he talks shit on Twitter. | ||
| You sure that's Stephen's brother? | ||
| It was. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, it was Stephen's brother. | ||
| But Stephen himself has never taught... | ||
| I've made several videos about him. | ||
| Maybe not several, like three. | ||
| But he's never confronted me. | ||
| Polypop tried to get us to do a debate at the time. | ||
| He wouldn't do it. | ||
| That seems weird. | ||
| And it's weird because he's Mr. I'm gonna go... | ||
| He just trolled Cenk Uygur the other day. | ||
| I thought that was funny. | ||
| His impression of Cenk Uygur is fucking funny. | ||
| It is pretty spot on. | ||
| The one that he did where he played Anna and Cenk back and forth? | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
| Oh, fucking pull it up. | ||
| He'll let us use it. | ||
| Look, I like Steven Crowder. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I think he's a good guy. | ||
| He's a little bit heavy on the right wing. | ||
| He gets a little silly. | ||
| But he does some funny shit like this. | ||
| And when he crashed Cenk's thing, the saddest thing was how Cenk was responding to it. | ||
| He didn't have any sense of humor about it. | ||
| Well, Cenk obviously takes himself very seriously for some reason. | ||
| They didn't mean any AR-37s. | ||
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Do the research. | |
| That's absolutely correct. | ||
| We'll have it listed, uh, at GOC. Yes! | ||
| I agree with you, Cenk. | ||
|
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So f***ing much. | |
| That's absolutely right. | ||
| When you use the F word, you know it's real talk. | ||
|
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I said f***. | |
| So we have a bunch of people... | ||
| Anyway, you can see it online. | ||
| At one point, he's pouring bacon grease down his mouth. | ||
| I just thought it was funny. | ||
| I think it was pretty funny. | ||
| Look, you've got to be able to make fun of yourself. | ||
| I recently sat down. | ||
| We went and watched a bunch of Young Turks videos so we could put out this special Drunken Peasants vs. | ||
| the Young Turks We shot about five hours of us watching Young Turks videos and just tearing them apart. | ||
| And one of the things I noticed is what Cenk will do, and watch for this if you're ever watching his shit, he'll have his panel say something that's like super crazy left-wing. | ||
| Like someone will say it, like Anna will say it, or one of the Stephen O, or whatever, whoever he's got on. | ||
| Ben Mankiewicz, whatever. | ||
| They'll say something that's real far left-wing. | ||
| And then it'll cut to Cenk. | ||
| And Cenk will have more of like a moderate left-wing opinion. | ||
| And then it'll go back to them and they'll immediately capitulate to Cenk. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, Cenk. | ||
| What you're saying is way more sensible than what I said a second ago. | ||
| And I just saw that pattern recurring over and over and over again. | ||
| So I don't know if that's like by design or if they're just they feel like the need to capitulate to him because they're maybe scared of him or something. | ||
| Or what? | ||
| There's definitely a lot of emotions going on there, too. | ||
| There's a lot of emotion in the way they describe things. | ||
| And some people, I think, at least initially connected to that. | ||
| But then they see where it gets problematic if you're dealing with any really serious issue and you want to debate just the facts and have your ducks in a row. | ||
| The wool over my eyes was the Harris debate, of course. | ||
| I think most people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That was the first major chink in the Cenk Uygur armor. | ||
| I never know how to pronounce his first name, so when you said it that way, I was like... | ||
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Jank. | |
| I think it's pronounced Jank. | ||
| Jank in the Jank. | ||
| Jank in the Jank. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| I think he's a good guy. | ||
| I like talking to him, too. | ||
| I just think people handle certain types of confrontation and disagreements. | ||
| And they don't handle them the best way they could and then those things escalate and they compound and then it becomes who you are and then you're defending who you are and Then you're always trying to argue with people about who you are and what you've done and like that's when you're gone Yeah, that's when you're over the top. | ||
| It's like we've done that we've done that and we've done this we've done that like Hey, you're talking about shit. | ||
| That's happening in the world. | ||
| That's all you're doing That's all any of us are doing. | ||
| That's all anybody's doing Unless you're out there digging wells in the Congo with Justin Wren, what you're doing is you're talking about shit. | ||
| So if you've got a bunch of people listening to you talk about shit, it's just talking about shit. | ||
| At the end of the day, you don't get any extra points because more people are listening or more people are watching. | ||
| Your point isn't more valid. | ||
| Your point still has to stand up in the marketplace of ideas. | ||
| And yours is just as valid as his, is just as valid as mine. | ||
| If the delivery system is a bigger delivery system, it doesn't mean that everybody has to stop and take you into account because you've had more success in this market. | ||
| That's a crazy way of looking at shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And when him and Alex Jones battle back and forth between who gets the most viewers and who has the most viewers, I'm like, holy shit, this is ridiculous. | ||
| Did you see when Alex went onto the stage at South by Southwest? | ||
| Is that what it was, South by Southwest? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Yeah, last year. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| Oh yeah, that was one of the greatest trollings of all time. | ||
| But Cenk got so mad. | ||
| He was screaming and yelling, you fucking dumbass! | ||
| We oppose Saudi Arabia! | ||
| That little weasel Jimmy Dore spitting on fucking Alex Jones, dude. | ||
| You know what's unfortunate? | ||
| That guy Jimmy Dore does some good stuff. | ||
| I've seen some of his stuff, too. | ||
| He's put some really good videos up. | ||
| He's done some really good work. | ||
| People aren't perfect. | ||
| I don't really care for him. | ||
| But you recognize that some of his stuff's really good, right? | ||
| I've never seen the stuff that's good. | ||
| Maybe it's out there. | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| I've seen it make some good points. | ||
| Very good points. | ||
| You know, when he was covering the whole Milo thing, he played a very deceptive version of the Milo clip, and he credited us basically as a podcast, and talked about us as like, we're doing this podcast from a basement somewhere or something. | ||
| Meanwhile, isn't it funny that a podcast like yours, which gets hundreds of thousands of downloads, I'm sure, right? | ||
| Like, if it was more than that, he would have to say the name of the podcast, right? | ||
| Like, if he was on the Adam Carolla Show, he would say, the Adam Carolla Show. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because it's yours. | ||
| Even though he knows what it's like, like, not gonna give these guys credit. | ||
| And, you know, a lot of the media did that to us. | ||
| I was, I was, uh, there was, like, transcripts of the Milo episode where it was like, and then unknown host said this. | ||
| It's like, fuck you! | ||
| I'm not in a bunker! | ||
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What?! | |
| You guys can't just look it up? | ||
| Aren't you supposed to be like journalists? | ||
| Can't you figure out what the fuck the podcast was? | ||
| And I saw ones that attributed stuff to me, but then had stuff of yours. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Where they didn't even... | ||
| I didn't know that you guys had them on. | ||
| I thought that all the shit was coming from my podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I got a text message from my friend Chris McGuire informing me of all of it. | ||
| And so I went and I said, well, this isn't even my podcast. | ||
| And then I realized, like, oh, he was on your podcast, too. | ||
| And they combined the two different things. | ||
| I even saw people say, like, he was on Joe Rogan's Drunken Peasants podcast. | ||
| It's like, wow, people are supposed to trust you for fucking information? | ||
| You're supposed to be a fucking credible source? | ||
| You can't even get this basic shit right? | ||
| The media is a fucking joke. | ||
| Well, the media now is. | ||
| It's a total fucking joke. | ||
| There's, like, a few places we can still trust. | ||
| Like where? | ||
| I'm hoping you around the answer to that. | ||
| Dude, because you know what? | ||
| People come to me all the time and they're like, TJ, what news media outlet do you trust? | ||
| I'm like, none of them. | ||
| I don't trust a single goddamn fucking thing any of these institutions have to say. | ||
| Whatever Megyn Kelly has to say, I'm listening. | ||
| Ah, Megyn. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Megyn! | ||
| You're right about everything, Megyn. | ||
| That's what I like. | ||
| Like ice princesses. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know why. | ||
| Like a mean. | ||
| Like a mean, huh? | ||
| Mean and smart. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| I'm like... | ||
| No, but I'm fascinated by people who must. | ||
| Yeah, some people. | ||
| They're perfect structure. | ||
| Perfect bone structure. | ||
| Steely blue eyes. | ||
| And Peck will be dressed. | ||
| Talking about guns. | ||
| And the war. | ||
| And crime. | ||
| And poverty. | ||
| And pot. | ||
| And prison. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| You know the fucking bitch I really hated back in the day was Nancy Grace. | ||
| Oh, she's the worst. | ||
| She's hideous. | ||
| She's still the worst. | ||
| She's horrible. | ||
| And, like, that moral indignation that she has over everything, like, everything is always like, YOU- OH MY GOD! I CANNOT BELIEVE! You know? | ||
| I hate that- I hope that constant, I'm indignant about everything in the world, and I'm this great moral judge here to fucking tell people what's really what. | ||
| ANOTHER DEAD BABY IN FLORIDA! Oh, she's a monster. | ||
| Remember when she went after those Duke Lacrosse kids? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The fake rape case? | ||
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| And then never apologized. | ||
| No. | ||
| Why would she? | ||
| She's perfect. | ||
| In fact, she probably still thinks those kids did it. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Imagine being those kids and going, what in the fuck? | ||
| We didn't do that. | ||
| Oh, Nancy Grace, shut up. | ||
| Nancy Grace, that's not the truth. | ||
| Those boys are terrible. | ||
| She's made her entire career off of exploiting the worst human beings in their worst case scenarios and then putting it on TV and getting everybody outraged. | ||
| The outrage machine. | ||
| She was the one who was chasing that lady down that killed her kid. | ||
| Casey Anthony, remember that? | ||
| That was her big bloodhound moment. | ||
| Nancy Grace renews her criticism of Tot Mom! | ||
| Who the fuck is Tot Mom? | ||
| I'm renewing! | ||
| She's that lady that killed her kid. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, so it's Casey Anthony. | ||
| Casey Anthony. | ||
| I've never heard her called Tot Mom before. | ||
| Yeah, that's who she calls her. | ||
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Tot Mom. | |
| I try to avoid experiencing Nancy Grace on any level. | ||
| Did you ever see her debate with 2 Chainz? | ||
| No. | ||
| They debated about pot. | ||
| 2 Chainz and Nancy Grace were debating about pot on TV. It was the most ridiculous shit ever. | ||
| 2 Chainz? | ||
| I might have actually seen that now that you mention it. | ||
| Why did they let 2 Chainz do it? | ||
| Because she probably thought he was a soft target, that she could just steamroll, dude. | ||
| Yeah, if you're going to do that with her, you need to be in the room, too. | ||
| You can't be on that split screen. | ||
| They talk over you. | ||
| You barely hear them. | ||
| There's a delay. | ||
| It's confusing. | ||
| They know what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| Those split screen things are weird. | ||
| You have something in your ear, and they're talking to you, and you don't see them. | ||
| You're staring right at a camera. | ||
| Dude, yeah. | ||
| When I was on CNN, not only that, but I was in a huge, gigantic room... | ||
| And the camera was like 30 feet away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm looking at this camera that's like in the distance, like talking to nothing. | ||
| There's a fucking earpiece in my ear that keeps falling out. | ||
| And it's designed that way, man. | ||
| It's designed to, well, first of all, for convenience for them, for the people that are filming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, like, the best way to get a good reaction out of the guest is put the guest under pressure. | ||
| Put him in some weird situation and have some smooth-talkin' Tucker Carlson type character. | ||
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Oh, dude. | |
| Tucker. | ||
| Tucker Carlson. | ||
| I'm really disappointed he didn't stick with the bow tie. | ||
| I was hoping. | ||
| I am, too. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| It seems like his ratings are better, so maybe the bow tie was fucking him up. | ||
| But I remember, like, I love how every fucking answer anyone gives to him on his show, he always does this, like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Always has this, like, perplexed, like, what? | ||
| Yeah, he's an interesting guy. | ||
| He's sort of taking this middleman Republican approach, sort of the middle, you know, like more reasonable, more towards the middle. | ||
| Can I understand your position? | ||
| Like, let me go over your position one more time, please. | ||
| Like, he's sort of semi-mocking, but clearly on the right. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And the great thing, too, is that he's kind of brought that internet strain of conservatism over to Fox News. | ||
| Because, like, you know, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, they're not tapped into that shit. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But Tucker is, and it's clear. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So he's basically appealing to probably a younger conservative demographic, I would imagine, than Hannity and O'Reilly get. | ||
| He's appealing to the people that have seen one too many Alex Jones videos. | ||
| Where they've gotten to that one point where they're like, I can't do this anymore. | ||
| I can't do this anymore. | ||
| And then they go over to Tucker. | ||
| They're like, I can't. | ||
| No more conspiracies. | ||
| What was it like having him on here, by the way? | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| It was a dream come true. | ||
| Like sitting face to face and actually listening to him talk. | ||
| Well, I've been friends with him for a long time. | ||
| I've known that guy since 1999, I think. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it was fun. | ||
| It was fun for me. | ||
| But it was also something like, for the longest time, people thought I was avoiding having him on for some reason. | ||
| And he kept saying, well, I try to get a hold of Joe Rogan every time I'm in town, but he blows me off. | ||
| He was always texting the wrong number. | ||
| He's always like, he didn't get, or he'd get a hold of me that day. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, I already have a podcast scheduled. | ||
| I can't do it today. | ||
| Well, I'll be back soon when I'm back. | ||
| We'll figure it out. | ||
| We'll figure it out. | ||
| And then he would go on a show. | ||
| Joe Rogan's been avoiding me. | ||
| I've been trying to get in there to give out this information. | ||
| It's very important. | ||
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Maybe he's scared. | |
| Maybe he's been threatened. | ||
| The government's threatened him. | ||
| He won't open up about Bigfoot. | ||
| I believe Joe Rogan did experience Bigfoot. | ||
| He was there in the woods. | ||
| Alex doesn't really believe in Bigfoot, I guess. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I don't know what he believes. | ||
| I know he seems to believe in demons these days. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, they are demons. | ||
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Demons. | |
| They're all demons from hell. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| They're damned. | ||
| They're damned. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Have you seen that thing where he apologizes? | ||
| Yeah, the apology compilation. | ||
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Excuse me! | |
| It's amazing! | ||
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I will stomp your head in! | |
| Excuse me. | ||
| This is a Christian family show. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| I'm a Christian, and I apologize. | ||
| He's just such a fucking awesome guy. | ||
| To me, he's awesome. | ||
| He's like a boundless source of entertainment. | ||
| And if you knew him, man, like if you, me, and him went out, we went to a bar, we had a couple of drinks, we would have a great fucking time. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| He's a real nice guy. | ||
| And he would start telling you, well, the barium, they've been putting barium in the water, and you're like, what? | ||
| You want another beer? | ||
| I'm telling you, he's a great guy. | ||
| But I understand that people are upset that he has the president's ear. | ||
| Maybe the president's like me. | ||
| Maybe the president just thinks he's awesome. | ||
| He wants to listen to crazy stories. | ||
| Trump's just like, yeah, bury him in the water. | ||
| Sounds great. | ||
| Interdimensional child molesters are coming in through the cigarette smoke. | ||
| Cigarettes with the 599 chemicals are designed to let the gates of hell come loose. | ||
| Interdimensional child molesters come in. | ||
| He just will go on and on and on and on. | ||
| I love the interdimensional child molester thing, because it's like, they have interdimensional travel capabilities, and they're like, immediate thing, like, what do we use this for? | ||
| I know! | ||
| Let's ban kids. | ||
| We'll rape kids in other dimensions. | ||
| You know, like, what? | ||
| Is that really the best application of that fucking technology? | ||
| They're always, like, the archetypes of, like, when you get into the really hardcore conspiracy theorists, the archetypes are always, like, very satanic. | ||
| The archetypes are always, like, eugenics. | ||
| Like, they want to kill off a massive amount of the population. | ||
| Engineering a master race. | ||
| Like, keeping all the medicine and the resources for the elites. | ||
| Killing off everyone else. | ||
| Preparing to get off this planet, because they know it's doomed, because Nibiru's coming. | ||
| It's all this apocalyptic shit. | ||
| It's really fascinating, because so much of it revolves around these... | ||
| And then they sell supplements and survival kits. | ||
| Well, that's what he does. | ||
| Nobody sells them better than Jim Baker. | ||
| He sells them his furniture. | ||
| Have you seen that video? | ||
| He sells them his toilets, dude! | ||
| Have you seen him sell it? | ||
| He says, after the bonus bucket is empty, you can use it as a toilet. | ||
| Oh, so when you're out there in the woods? | ||
| There's not going to be modern plumbing after the apocalypse. | ||
| People don't even know how bad shit smells because most of the time you don't really smell it. | ||
| You smell it watered down. | ||
| Plop logs. | ||
| When you take a shit in the woods, that's when you really go, oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| And at least then you're outside with all that air and a nice stiff breeze. | ||
| But if you take a shit in a room, in a bucket, it's going to smell so horrible. | ||
| You will start gagging and throwing up. | ||
| You'll be so disgusted. | ||
| Not to mention, you'd have to actually eat their supposedly fucking five years worth of... | ||
| Disgusting macaroni and cheese or mashed potatoes to actually get the bucket empty enough to shit in it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, I mean, like... | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's Jim Baker's bowl. | ||
| And look, are any of these fucking old fucks gonna live long enough to even... | ||
| They are. | ||
| Who cares if they survive the apocalypse? | ||
| They're fucking probably not even gonna survive this demo, for fuck's sake. | ||
| What you don't know is we are all batting down the hatches and waiting for Jesus' return. | ||
| Okay, the slop that was in the bucket and the slop they're putting in their mouths is not the same. | ||
| Oh, you think theirs is different? | ||
| It does not look the same. | ||
| Theirs is like a rice pudding, maybe? | ||
| It looks like a fine risotto. | ||
| It's a risotto, yeah. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| Look at those poor people in the audience. | ||
| Forget about being so fucking stupid that you watch it on TV, because it's just on. | ||
| But imagine being so fucking stupid. | ||
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Like, you said, we're going to go to see the Sherman today and take the bus into the town to go and sit in the audience and listen to Pastor Jim. | |
| I think they offer them free food. | ||
| I think they tell them like, yeah, you get a free meal if you come in here. | ||
| That's all they need? | ||
| A free meal? | ||
| They're like, ooh, sweet, free food. | ||
| Well, they're probably excited to be on television as well. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| A lot of them have books. | ||
| They have books open. | ||
| Pack that up. | ||
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Look. | |
| But don't they have like books in their hands? | ||
| Probably those same books you see on the stage, probably just passing them out. | ||
| Get them to try to fucking buy this bonus bucket shit. | ||
| Hey look, they've got like notes. | ||
| People are taking notes. | ||
| This is important stuff. | ||
| What's important? | ||
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Well, okay, if I'll eat one plate of that risotto a day, I could be underground for 50 years. | |
| I've got willpower. | ||
| I got a Hawaiian shirt on. | ||
| Look at these fucking people. | ||
| They're taking notes. | ||
| Like, this is, like, really important stuff that Jim Baker's talking about. | ||
| I just love that this guy keeps on keeping on. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's like the Energizer Bunny, dude. | ||
| Yeah, no one's talking to Jessica Hahn these days. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Nobody even cares about her anymore. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He looks smooth as fuck. | ||
| He's got that sleek white hair. | ||
| He's got a cute little beard. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's thin. | ||
| Looks healthy. | ||
| He's passionate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got the drive. | ||
| He's got the energy. | ||
| He's got this hot little piece of ass behind him in the green shirt. | ||
| Yeah, look at her. | ||
| It's fun though. | ||
| Trashy. | ||
| If you watch this shit sometimes, you'll see them openly argue on the show. | ||
| But it'll be very... | ||
| Restrained. | ||
| I remember one time he was talking about marijuana or something. | ||
| And he's like, you used to smoke marijuana in your college days, didn't you? | ||
| And she's like, oh yeah. | ||
| Just picture her smoking pot and taking dick like a champ. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
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Right? | |
| I mean, she does have that vibe, doesn't she? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Strong. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Trophy wife vibe going on. | ||
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Yeah, he's partying. | |
| Especially for someone that guy's age. | ||
| Well, we found out from the Jessica Hawn days that that dude was a partier. | ||
| He liked to party. | ||
| That's his deal. | ||
| He likes to talk about the Lord, and he maybe even believes it. | ||
| But after that shit's done, woo! | ||
| Let's party! | ||
| He's down to fuck! | ||
| Yeah, that's what Christianity's all about, forgiveness, y'all. | ||
| Yeah, listen, man. | ||
| Just get forgiven the next day. | ||
| It's a beautiful thing. | ||
| He's got a good market. | ||
| He's got it locked in. | ||
| Who's that Joel Osteen guy? | ||
| Is that his name? | ||
| Yeah, Joel Osteen. | ||
| That guy, he does arenas, man. | ||
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Oh, huge. | |
| That guy does the same place where we do the UFC. He was coming the next day, or the next week. | ||
| I was like, that's crazy. | ||
| He fills the fucking arena. | ||
| It's that, like, prosperity doctrine shit. | ||
| Look at all those people. | ||
| Maybe I'm in the wrong business. | ||
| Yeah, I've thought about it before. | ||
| I'm like, man... | ||
| How much do I have to know about Jesus to talk about him on stage? | ||
| Not a whole lot. | ||
| I was thinking, like, oh, I could fucking spin this yarn about, like, I used to be this YouTube atheist. | ||
| Yeah, dude, you should totally do that. | ||
| And now I'm redeemed, and I found Jesus. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'll do it all nice and conservative and shit, and I'll be like, yeah, I found Jesus, turned my life around, I was depressed. | ||
| Well, stop right there. | ||
| Stop right there. | ||
| No one's gonna believe you changed your fucking accent to a mocking Southern accent. | ||
| Well, you know, obviously. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| But let's just run through how we would have you do it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If we're going to reinvent you, let's just say the country moves so far into conservatism that it's dangerous being an atheist. | ||
| It's dangerous being a liberal. | ||
| And you've got a certain amount of financial requirements now. | ||
| You've got a mortgage. | ||
| Maybe you've got a car payment. | ||
| You're like, well, fuck, man. | ||
| I need to get this money to keep coming in. | ||
| I know what I'm going to do. | ||
| I'm going to reinvent myself, and it'll be a performance art piece that I do for a few years where I become a conservative. | ||
| Become a conservative Christian. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Give my life over to Jesus. | ||
| What would be the event that we would need to talk about? | ||
| Like, we would have to describe an event that motivated you to make the big change. | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| It had to be something that I could fake easily, but seems credible and believable. | ||
| Maybe a little baby heart attack. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's true. | ||
| Yeah, you're a little overweight. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I could just be like, I had my heart attack, and I could even fucking, maybe I could spin some kind of like near-death yarn or some shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like you blacked out, like something happened, you had like a little minor heart attack, and your leg stopped working, you blacked out. | ||
| And I was in a tunnel, and I saw the lights, and I felt like a presence, an energy, a love that I'd never experienced before. | ||
| What was your initial reaction to this love and this experience? | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Jesus is Lord? | ||
| Should we go the hell route? | ||
| Should we go like, I was cast out of this place and I went to hell? | ||
| Or is that too over the top? | ||
| Here's my take on things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is what I believe. | ||
| I believe you're allowed to talk about God all day long, but as soon as you talk about the devil, only a select group of people are going to hear you. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Because more people believe in God than believe in the Bible. | ||
| Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
| Not only that, it's culturally acceptable to describe a belief in a higher power. | ||
| If you don't even say God, you get away with it for 90% of the people. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's true. | ||
| All you have to do is say... | ||
| I'm spiritual. | ||
| I'm non-denominational, but I'm spiritual and Ultimately, I believe in a higher power. | ||
| I just think it's very possible that something I I leave the option like the seven planets fucking thing like what's that they say? | ||
| It's like a it's like a reincarnation trope where you're like you go through like seven stages of life Where like the first year I think humans are like second or third on the list But eventually like in your seventh life You become, like, a being of a... | ||
| Well, I mean, it's not necessarily your seventh, because you're, like, repeatedly attempting... | ||
| So you become, like, an enlightened being. | ||
| Yeah, like, if you're a shitty human being, you might get sent back, or you might just be a human being again, but eventually, you get reincarnated as, like, an immortal being of pure enlightenment, and just one with the cosmos and all that shit. | ||
| Like a Dalai Lama. | ||
| Yeah, you could do, like, a... | ||
| You know, you peddle that New Age shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because... | ||
| They, like, set it on, like, seven different planets, too. | ||
| Like, you go from one planet to the next as you progress up the ladder of fucking enlightenment. | ||
| Who's they? | ||
| Where is this? | ||
| All of us! | ||
| But what is this? | ||
| What religion is this one? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just some crazy shit I heard one time. | ||
| But I could roll with that. | ||
| Seven planets. | ||
| Yeah, you have seven times to reinvent yourself, and, like, I'm totally... | ||
| I have my shit together now. | ||
| I'm 500 years old, but I'm totally together. | ||
| Finally, I can say I'm whole. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Then you ascend. | ||
| Then you ascend. | ||
| You ascend to enlightenment, to the seventh planet where you live out the rest of your existence in pure love and joy. | ||
| If we just had you talking on CNN again, and they would go, well, what inspired you to make this decision after all your years of atheism YouTube videos to become a Christian? | ||
| And now that you are a Christian, are you going to take those videos down? | ||
| No, I'm going to leave them up so people can see that I really was this atheist. | ||
| I really did give credence to these atheist beliefs. | ||
| But now I've rejected that all. | ||
| And in fact, I'm going to go through all my old videos and rebut them and show where I was wrong and explain why I was wrong. | ||
| So stay tuned for that. | ||
| Oh, genius. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And you can also say, you know what's really ironic, is I did Joe Rogan's podcast and we joked around about this happening and then it did happen. | ||
| It is so crazy. | ||
| No, you just fucked this whole plan because it's all public. | ||
| No, no, no, it's not because your belief in the Lord is so powerful that despite the fact you talked about faking it, you're going to talk about it in the exact same way because it actually did happen. | ||
| It's almost like God was like, oh, you think you're so smart, TJ? Well, I'll show you. | ||
| I'll show you and I'll have the exact same scenario play itself out and I will show myself to you and I will touch your heart. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| And the Lord did. | ||
| He touched my heart, TJ. Just a few, a scant few years later... | ||
| He touched my heart. | ||
| How much do you think Joel Osteen clears in one day with the T-Mobile arena? | ||
| You could look up his net worth or something. | ||
| That's probably scary. | ||
| It's gotta be huge. | ||
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Supposed what it's worth. | |
| 56 million net worth. | ||
| He lives in a 10 million dollar house. | ||
| Nice! | ||
| It's a good little scam he's got going. | ||
| Hashtag ballin'. | ||
| Hashtag ballin' for Jesus. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| Now how does one justify that? | ||
| We had this guy on, Will McCaskill, who runs this organization called Effective Altruism. | ||
| He donates all of his income above $35,000. | ||
| So he gets to $35,000, he keeps that, everything else he donates. | ||
| That's like a real holy man. | ||
| In a lot of ways. | ||
| I mean, he's just living in a comfortable way. | ||
| Meanwhile, Joel Osteen, $56 million network, $10 million house. | ||
| He comes home in his gold underwear. | ||
| Well, look, he's kind of smart because he's built prosperity into his doctrine. | ||
| Because what he peddles is like... | ||
| If you're good and God loves you, God wants you to be successful and prosperous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, there's nothing in Christian doctrine to actually back that up. | ||
| Like, Christians are persecuted and God does not give them an easy life. | ||
| They get crucified upside down and they get persecuted by authorities and all sorts of stuff. | ||
| But he's figured out some way to spin it like if you love God and God loves you, then God wants you to be successful. | ||
| So basically his all his money in his houses and his prosperity. | ||
| That's all that's God gave that to me. | ||
| And that's part of my faith. | ||
| Yeah, but you asked for it, bitch. | ||
| You asked for money. | ||
| The people paid. | ||
| They paid to hear the word of God and hearing it through you. | ||
| God didn't get involved at any point. | ||
| What happens if somebody really charismatic? | ||
| Who's really smart decides to play that as a scam. | ||
| I mean, it's happened a bunch of times throughout history. | ||
| Yeah, but like someone who's like a really good actor, like a Denzel Washington. | ||
| Denzel Washington becomes a religious icon. | ||
| Dude, could you imagine if Denzel Washington, out of nowhere, had some religious epiphany or faked it? | ||
| And then decided to go on television and had a very powerful message for people. | ||
| And then started making YouTube videos. | ||
| And then started preaching in arenas. | ||
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People would... | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| You would leave there. | ||
| Your life would be changed. | ||
| Denzel Washington. | ||
| You think of Denzel Washington from like... | ||
| Training day, like the kind of fucking power that guy can deliver, if he could deliver a sermon like that, Joel Osteen would just jump off a building. | ||
| He would watch that and go, what the fuck business am I in now? | ||
| Joel Osteen would be like his opening act, if anything, you know? | ||
| Like the shitty opening band that no one cares about. | ||
| Yeah, if you got like a real actor, like a real powerful actor to go up there and do it in a real... | ||
| I mean, there's like a guy like Leonardo DiCaprio. | ||
| Like Leonardo DiCaprio, the problem with Leo is he's too handsome and he gets too much pussy. | ||
| You're not going to take him seriously. | ||
| You're just not. | ||
| He's got too much money. | ||
| He's always balling all over the world. | ||
| He's on yachts with models. | ||
| Too much money, I'm sorry. | ||
| But if we could get past that, if somehow or another we could get past that, like if that guy settled down, he had a wife, and he had a kid, and then he had some religious epiphany, and then he really got close to the Lord, and he was really gathering up the scripture, and then he started fucking preaching. | ||
| You really want this to happen. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I can sense it in you like, oh yeah, yeah, soon. | ||
| You know the expression, politics is for people that suck at showbiz. | ||
| It's for ugly people that suck at showbiz. | ||
| And that's essentially what religion is. | ||
| I mean, it's another form of showbiz-ness. | ||
| What you're doing is, by doing it that way, the only way you do it that way is you have to put on a performance. | ||
| If you're going to stand in front of all those people and talk about what the Lord does to me, whether you have passion for it or not, that is an orchestrated performance. | ||
| It's an art form. | ||
| You're riling people's sensibilities up and stimulating their minds. | ||
| It's fucking weird. | ||
| It's a fucking weird way to worship. | ||
| You know, it's very weird. | ||
| You pay a bunch of money to get in an arena, and some con man screams and yells about the Lord and pretends that he can read people's minds and heal the sick. | ||
| Those motherfuckers that touch people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wiggle... | ||
| Oh, you're deaf? | ||
| I'll wiggle my finger in your ear, and now you can hear! | ||
| It's a miracle! | ||
| I can hear! | ||
| And then they're rushed off real quick, you know, like, bye, deaf person! | ||
| Or formerly deaf person. | ||
| What's really creepy when the... | ||
| I forget which one... | ||
| Which guy got busted with the earpiece? | ||
| Remember the preacher? | ||
| They exposed him on one of those shows? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it was James Randi that fucking set up that operation where you could hear his wife talking to him and telling him about people and... | ||
| All these healer guys, those Benny Hinn type dudes. | ||
| And that didn't destroy his career either. | ||
| He kept going. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Those people aren't reading. | ||
| Just keep going. | ||
| Peter Popoff was the guy's name. | ||
| Yeah, Peter Popoff. | ||
| Peter Popoff. | ||
| I didn't know who that guy was. | ||
| There's so many of them, though. | ||
| I guess that's the way they make a living. | ||
| Yeah, it's a nice little racket they got going. | ||
| We were talking about doing it for you. | ||
| I think you could do it, though. | ||
| You could fucking nail it. | ||
| Yeah, you could do it. | ||
| Any of us could do it. | ||
| You could really do it, though. | ||
| I could really do it? | ||
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| Because I got the whole atheist angle. | ||
| I can play, like, I used to be this way, but now I've seen the light. | ||
| The former amazing atheist, now an amazing Christian. | ||
| Ding! | ||
| I can see the title now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll have to get some teeth whitener and cut my hair a little bit. | ||
| Just cut your hair short. | ||
| You'll be fine. | ||
| Cut the hair a little shorter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Find yourself a nice Christian gal. | ||
| Dress up nice. | ||
| That's who it would be. | ||
| Hot Christian pussy. | ||
| That's what took you over to the top. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Daisy Dukes. | ||
| I can even tell them that. | ||
| Like, look, I just noticed that the Christian pussy is just way higher caliber. | ||
| It's way better. | ||
| They're freaks. | ||
| They're all suppressed. | ||
| And when you finally get them alone, they think Jesus isn't looking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's why I decided to convert. | ||
| Can you imagine if, like, it took a few years and then you admitted, look, I'm just gonna be real with y'all. | ||
| I converted because Christian pussy is the best pussy. | ||
| It's like, it's not even close. | ||
| You know it. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Why are we lying? | ||
| You gotta believe in Jesus when you just know. | ||
| I mean, you know, you fuck an atheist pussy or a pagan pussy or whatever, and you're like, alright, I guess this is okay. | ||
| But you hit that Christian pussy and you just feel the might of God touching your cock. | ||
| It's almost like Jesus himself is giving you a hand job. | ||
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It's beautiful. | |
| Can you imagine if there was a belief system that changed the way your pussy felt? | ||
| Like if you knew that the girl didn't believe in Jesus when you had sex, like, oh, it was all wishy-washy down there. | ||
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No structure. | |
| Like, we were talking about this the other day about wild pigs. | ||
| That when wild pigs get loose, like you take a domestic pig and when they get loose, their body morphs, their snout grows, their hair gets thicker, their tusks grow longer. | ||
| Imagine if like when a woman really believed in Jesus, if she really believed in God, her pussy would just tighten down like a fist and you would realize it when you were fucking her. | ||
| Like, wow, the Lord is inside of her. | ||
| This is a girl I should come inside of because I should make babies with her because the Lord is in her. | ||
| She really believes in the Lord. | ||
| The Lord resides within this cunt. | ||
| Maybe you could tell by having sex with him. | ||
| Imagine that? | ||
| And the guys would cry. | ||
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I've never been with a girl who believed in the Lord. | |
| Every girl I believed believed in the Lord, I was having sex with her, I was like sticking my dick in a bucket of Jell-O. There was nothing. | ||
| There was nothing. | ||
| There's no hope. | ||
| There's no future. | ||
| And there's this guy holding his wife's hand like a death grip. | ||
| She's got this Christian smile on her eyes. | ||
| And you know our pussy's a vice grip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just a ball-milking vice grip. | ||
| Industrial suction power. | ||
| Clamp down. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| I think there would be a lot more Christians. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That would be something that would definitely get people on the side of Christianity. | ||
| That's one of the weirder things about Islam. | ||
| It's like the more radical sex of it and the more... | ||
| The deeper that people get into it when they want to cover up the entire woman. | ||
| Like, cover everything! | ||
| Can't even see her. | ||
| Can't even see her when she goes out. | ||
| Cover it up! | ||
| And the idea is, like, if you don't cover up, then, you know, men are just gonna be, like, totally rape-crazy. | ||
| Like, oh my god. | ||
| They must really... | ||
| They must really like the fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I don't know how true statistically it is, but they say that the rape is a big problem when they go to these western countries, these refugees and shit. | ||
| Oh, they're probably not used to seeing all these short shorts. | ||
| Oh my god, it's like a fucking buffet of pussy around here. | ||
| Don't you think that any country that has been around for as long, like any part of the world, really, where civilization has existed for a long, long, long time, it's very difficult to get those people off their old ways. | ||
| And when you're dealing with a place like the Middle East, like... | ||
| Iraq is the oldest... | ||
| They think that, like, Sumer, which is where Iraq is, as far as we know, that's the oldest civilization we're currently totally aware of, right? | ||
| 6,000 years ago, there was people living in there, and they had mathematics, they had It was a really advanced civilization for the time. | ||
| And the people that are there today, in a lot of ways, I mean, these people have come in and people have left, but a lot of the fucking energy and the ideas of that culture are still in some way connected to this 6,000 year old culture. | ||
| We're still kind of fucked in this country because we're connected to the Puritans. | ||
| We're connected to the pilgrims that landed. | ||
| I mean, all these people that came over here seeking religious freedom and they were super religious and super puritanical in their beliefs. | ||
| Well, remember, it wasn't just the Puritans that were sent here. | ||
| It was kind of like the Puritans were sent. | ||
| Well, the Puritans came here to escape religious persecution, and then a lot of the dregs of their society were sent here like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Go over there. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Go colonize the new world. | ||
| Form a new life for yourself there. | ||
| That's my family. | ||
| Well, you know, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| But if you really look at it, that's like the flip side. | ||
| You can kind of even look at America today and still see, like, oh, here's where the Puritan element comes in, and here's where the degenerate scumfuck element comes in, and then you've got America. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, anytime you start a fresh country, it's a goddamn gamble and a bunch of people are going to come over here. | ||
| And you're not going to get the best stuff. | ||
| But look at Australia. | ||
| Australia was started as a prison colony. | ||
| It's one of my favorite places to visit. | ||
| The people are fantastic. | ||
| Never been there. | ||
| Oh man, you'd love it. | ||
| Fucking Melbourne is amazing. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| One of the best cities I've ever been to. | ||
| The people are so cool. | ||
| It's like a cool San Francisco type vibe with a weird accent. | ||
| Not weird to them, obviously. | ||
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Yeah, obviously. | |
| Fucking nicest people in the world. | ||
| There's so few of them. | ||
| They have it so much better over there. | ||
| Because there's as many as there is in the LA area, in their entire fucking country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| What'd I do? | ||
| That's a lot of fucking people, man. | ||
| Oh, you just were like... | ||
| Just because I'm thinking about that. | ||
| It's like, holy shit. | ||
| How ridiculously overpopulated we are. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The second I land in LA, like... | ||
| You go, why? | ||
| There's like a weird vibe instantly, like... | ||
| I just feel like way more guarded here and stuff, because there's like a sense of like... | ||
| Like, a faint whiff of, like, violence that's always in the air here. | ||
| Like, you can just feel, like, the tensions that exist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I notice people are, like, a lot of people around here are super apologetic all the time for, like, the slightest thing. | ||
| And I think it's just because they all feel it, like, there's, like, kind of a powder keg here that could just explode at any time. | ||
| Or maybe they're just polite, TJ. No, they're not. | ||
| Like, what are people who are super apologetic about? | ||
| Well, look, like, first thing that happened to me when I walked out of the airport was this guy... | ||
| He's doing a suitcase and he hits my foot with it. | ||
| And he says he's sorry. | ||
| He's like, oh, I'm so sorry. | ||
| But he keeps pulling it. | ||
| Like, you know, so he's not really changing what he's doing. | ||
| He's just giving me an apology for it so I won't get mad about it, basically. | ||
| Oh, I see. | ||
| So he didn't stop what he's doing and readjust and try to not hit your foot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I just got out of the way at that point. | ||
| But, you know, it's like people around here, they almost try to, like, put a sorry over things to defuse any possible, like, well, if I say sorry, then people won't be as pissed. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Everyone's kind of stepping on each other's toes here because it's so crowded. | ||
| There's so many fucking people. | ||
| There's so many different cultures trying to coexist, you know, in one place. | ||
| Like, even, you know, I'm from Seattle and shit. | ||
| Like, the area I live in has got, like, a lot of Asians there and stuff. | ||
| But, like, you don't really feel that sense of, like, the clash going on. | ||
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| Or, like, there's tensions between these different groups of people. | ||
| Because the attitude that they have, like, in the Northwest, at least the parts of it I live in, are just kind of like... | ||
| People just kind of really don't give a shit about each other. | ||
| And there's sort of like an air of like, detached, like, yeah, you know, I'll be somewhat friendly and shit, but we're not all gonna fucking, we're not gonna exchange all these niceties and shit. | ||
| And it's a very, like, brusque attitude, and people are sort of detached. | ||
| Are you speaking for the entire area? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Are you their spokesperson? | ||
| I am their spokesperson. | ||
| I found them in Seattle to be very friendly. | ||
| Well, I don't live exactly in Seattle. | ||
| So maybe you're in the area where people go to escape the friendliness of Seattle. | ||
| Maybe so. | ||
| Maybe I am. | ||
| Well, I mean, like I said, there's a lot of Asians there. | ||
| They tend to be brusque, I feel like. | ||
| Oh, racism. | ||
| Here it comes. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Especially against Eskimos. | ||
| I don't fucking put up with that Inuit shit. | ||
| Yeah, I like Pacific Northwest. | ||
| I think there's a unique connection with nature when you get rained on all the time, and everything's green as fuck. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I think you guys have a better connection with nature. | ||
| I have some friends that live in Ballard, and we went to... | ||
| There's a park over there, and they have kids that are my kid's age. | ||
| We all went to the park, and we were hanging out there, and we were like, God damn, everything is so green. | ||
| I was like, you guys are not just used to this. | ||
| This is normal for you, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was a rare day where it was super sunny and warm, and I was like, okay, if this was like this all the time, do you know this place would be so fucking crowded? | ||
| Your relationship that you have with nature is what keeps people away, but it also enhances, in my opinion, the way the people that live there look at things. | ||
| I think they're more grounded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not really one who focuses a lot on the physical beauty of an area, but I love just driving through, like over a bridge or something, in the Seattle area and just... | ||
| Seeing all the fucking hills and all the trees and all the water and everything just looks really, like, serene and picturesque and beautiful, even though, you know, there's a shit ton of people there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's a giant... | ||
| But, like, in L.A., it's like, there's the sun and everything, but you just... | ||
| It just looks like a fucking... | ||
| When you fly in L.A., there's just, like, a big grid of fucking lights and shit. | ||
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| There's not much of nature left for you to be like, ah. | ||
| Well, this is a flat patch of desert, too, that they slapped all these stupid buildings up on. | ||
| If it wasn't for this, it'd be like chaparral and fucking tumbleweeds and dirt. | ||
| But what Seattle also has is you guys have the ocean and the mountains all just jammed up on top of you, too. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Like, you can get to Mount Rainier from Seattle in, what is it, like 70 minutes? | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| I think it might be a little longer, but it's not very long. | ||
| Maybe an hour and a half, two hours at the most. | ||
| Because we were up there Bigfoot squatching. | ||
| We were squatching, me and Duncan Trussell. | ||
| And we drove down from there, from Mount Rainier, to a hotel in the mainland, in the regular area. | ||
| So it was close enough that within two hours or whatever it was, we could be in the middle of this incredible rainforest and then go right back down. | ||
| And then you're looking at the ocean right there, too. | ||
| It's just so fucking vibrant. | ||
| I mean, look, it's like where I live. | ||
| I feel like I'm in the middle of the fucking woods, but I can drive five minutes and be in a downtown area. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it is crazy. | ||
| You can't really get that in L.A. No, and you have a good amount of people up there, too. | ||
| What is Seattle's population, like five million or something? | ||
| Of the entire metropolitan area? | ||
| I think it's something like that. | ||
| I wouldn't know offhand, but... | ||
| Find out what it is, young Jamie. | ||
| I'm gonna guess it's like five million, which I think you should put a cap on. | ||
| Don't let anybody move until people die. | ||
| Dude, like, even when I moved there... | ||
| Less than five million? | ||
| How many? | ||
| The city says it's only 650,000. | ||
| Yeah, but you gotta look at the Seattle metropolitan area, though. | ||
| That's a good number, though. | ||
| 650,000. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| But even when I moved there, like, when I told people... | ||
| 2.7 million? | ||
| 2.7 million. | ||
| 3.7. | ||
| 3.7. | ||
| That ain't shit. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, you know, but like, even when I moved there, like, people are already kind of like, I could sense, like, people being like, eh, more people? | ||
| Eh. | ||
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| People always do that, though, man. | ||
| Yeah, they're like, no, we're good. | ||
| It's just like you said, you know, like, try to stop anyone new from coming. | ||
| Yeah, greedy fucks. | ||
| Just like, fuck you. | ||
| You got a great spot. | ||
| If you wanted to go more hippie, though, would you go Portland? | ||
| Uh, no. | ||
| No? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've never really been to Portland. | ||
| Sweet spot. | ||
| I'm actually planning on going to Portland to see your concert you're doing there. | ||
| Oh, you're doing it? | ||
| Yeah, on the 20th of February or something. | ||
| Don't buy tickets. | ||
| 20th of April? | ||
| You didn't buy tickets, did you? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'll hook it up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got a lot of people coming. | ||
| Okay, how many people? | ||
| Six or seven? | ||
| I can make that happen. | ||
| Alright, cool. | ||
| But that spot is... | ||
| Portland, to me, is like... | ||
| There's like a handful of places that I would live outside of LA. Break it down. | ||
| Seattle, for sure. | ||
| Portland, for sure. | ||
| Denver, Austin, Texas. | ||
| And then it would get weird. | ||
| Then it would get weird after that. | ||
| Everything else would get like, man, maybe I could do it. | ||
| But outside of Denver or Boulder, when I say Denver, I really mean Colorado. | ||
| I could live in Aspen, too. | ||
| I love Colorado. | ||
| When I was trying to escape Ohio, we all sat down. | ||
| We were trying to all come to a consensus about where to move to, and a lot of those places were considered. | ||
| We were tossing around Austin, we were tossing around LA, we were tossing around Portland, and we were tossing around Seattle. | ||
| So it's kind of pretty similar to the places where we would live. | ||
| Those are the only places. | ||
| Because I was not happy living in Columbus, Ohio. | ||
| Yeah, well, there's a lot of great people in Columbus. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But that winter can suck my dick. | ||
| Yeah, we were done with it. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Giant mountains of fucking snow just piling on us, I mean... | ||
| I mean, Duncan Trussell, I'm texting him every day, fuck New York City, because another blizzard just hit, you know, and I'm like, fuck you, and fuck New York, because Duncan just moved there. | ||
| I'm like, why'd you leave me, bitch? | ||
| You left me and went to a stupid spot that snows in the middle of goddamn March. | ||
| It's deep. | ||
| We're deep into March, right? | ||
| What is it, like the 16th or something? | ||
| 15th? | ||
| Fuck out of here. | ||
| Can't be snowing. | ||
| That's too late. | ||
| It's no more snow. | ||
| No, stop it. | ||
| It's not allowed to snow anymore. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| You get jammed in there for a couple days. | ||
| But even that, I think New York is a weird combination of weather and extreme population. | ||
| I think when you get that weather, there's good things. | ||
| What Seattle has is a good amount of weather. | ||
| It gets rain, but it only snows a couple of days a year, if that. | ||
| Like, it only gets below 32. We had actually a pretty weirdly heavy snowstorm this year. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| But that was very unusual for the area. | ||
| Yeah, it's rare. | ||
| But, like, during the winter, it's more like just constant, cold, dreary, rainy. | ||
| But I'm okay with that. | ||
| Like, I walk out in the sun in L.A. here, and I'm like, fuck this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look how white I am. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| I mean, I don't want that. | ||
| I love the overcast skies. | ||
| I love the rain. | ||
| Do you have reasons to be depressed? | ||
| I mean, I don't need a reason to be depressed. | ||
| I'll be depressed no matter where the fuck I am. | ||
| My surroundings might as well at least reflect it. | ||
| You get used to the weather out here. | ||
| You get used to the sun. | ||
| But I'll tell you, one time I was... | ||
| I used to live in Palmdale. | ||
| Oh, did you? | ||
| So I kind of understand the climate a little bit. | ||
| That place is a bit mathy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Palmdale gets a bit meth-y. | ||
| It gets a bit meth-y and in-and-out-y. | ||
| There's a lot of in-and-outs out there. | ||
| It seems like the main food source might be in-and-out. | ||
| And then quite meth-y. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just remember living out there and seeing like the... | ||
| You know, it's just like, we want to live near LA, but... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, we don't really want to pay LA prices, so... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Palmdale. | ||
| And they just have to commute every day for an hour. | ||
| Which, if you see it in the morning... | ||
| I drove up there once real early in the morning... | ||
| I was driving up towards Bakersfield and it was like boy I want to say like before dawn so it was about 530 in the morning and the amount of people coming towards LA from way past Bakersfield was fucking stunning like stunning like I really had no idea and it's people that can't afford housing in LA and so they commute and they commute And they have to get up really early in the morning to do it. | ||
| Because at 5.30 in the fucking morning, it's bumper to bumper traffic on the 5. It's nuts, man. | ||
| Like, you ain't never seen anything like it. | ||
| You just go, oh my god, this is something that I didn't even realize was an issue. | ||
| All those people that can't afford to live in LA and they drive down. | ||
| And it's a lot of fucking people that live out there and drive down here for work. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| They should put in some high-speed rail and just fucking... | ||
| Well, they're talking about doing more affordable housing along the way for people to just establish these artificial communities, but there's a lot of resistance to that. | ||
| People that live in that area don't want those areas developed. | ||
| Who the fuck knows? | ||
| Now we're developers. | ||
| We're talking developing. | ||
| We talked about Jesus. | ||
| We talked about Pussy. | ||
| We talked about waffles. | ||
| Is there anything we should take back? | ||
| Is there anything we should take back? | ||
| What we said today? | ||
| I don't feel bad about any of it. | ||
| I feel pretty good. | ||
| I feel pretty good. | ||
| I feel pretty good about it. | ||
| I don't feel like there's anything that was said that needs to be like, oh, we better revoke that before people take it the wrong way or some shit. | ||
| People definitely are going to. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| There's nothing you can do about that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But it is what it is. | ||
| If people want to see your YouTube videos, your channel is still The Amazing Atheist. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Or they can check out my podcast, Drunken Peasants. | ||
| And that is the podcast, no matter what Bill Maher says, your podcast is essentially the podcast that sunk Milo. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| It wasn't mine. | ||
| I mean, well, Milo sunk Milo more than anyone else did. | ||
| But thanks, dude. | ||
| Let's do this more often. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| Bye, everybody. |
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