March 8, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:08:28
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We're live. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What's up, man? | ||
| How you doing, man? | ||
| Likewise. | ||
| I have never seen a single silly statement like I could kill a wolf one-on-one. | ||
| Get so much fucking hype. | ||
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unidentified
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That's the weirdest. | |
| So many people are so excited about this. | ||
| It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen, man. | ||
| I can't call it. | ||
| I tweet random shit all the time and that just, for some reason, everybody had an opinion on it. | ||
| That's a weird one, man. | ||
| It's funny though. | ||
| I've seen a lot of people tweet really ridiculous shit, but I don't think I've ever seen anything get this much speculation, discussion, debate. | ||
| People are mad at you. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, people are pissed off like, fuck you, you can't be a wolf. | |
| I'm like, Jesus Christ, bro. | ||
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unidentified
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You got wolf cousins, man? | |
| What's to do? | ||
| Yeah, it is a weird thing, man. | ||
| It's a weird thing. | ||
| The social media today, it must... | ||
| You know what I think it is? | ||
| I think you said it at a time where people were looking for some shit to argue about. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, easily. | |
| That has nothing to do with Trump. | ||
| Nothing to do with climate change. | ||
| It's like, oh, we got something here. | ||
| Fuck him. | ||
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unidentified
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That wolf's gonna kill him. | |
| I'm glad I could be that source of... | ||
| Distraction, entertainment. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem like that, though, doesn't it? | ||
| I think it's like peaks and waves. | ||
| Because if you did this like the day 9-11 happened, nobody would give a shit. | ||
| You don't respect it. | ||
| It'd probably be like that. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But I can't believe you're doing this on that day. | ||
| Some people would probably, if you did it today, they'd be like, I can't believe you say that on National Woman's Day, bro. | ||
| It's National Woman's Day? | ||
| You want to talk about fighting wolves? | ||
| This is what's wrong with men. | ||
| This is what's wrong with patriarchy. | ||
| I can't call it, man. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It was interesting, though. | ||
| My mom calling me and stuff. | ||
| It's hilarious, man. | ||
| People I ain't talked to for years. | ||
| Like, bro, you can't be the wolf. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So do you always just tweet random shit? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Just randomly, just whatever's on my mind. | ||
| I'm pretty active on there. | ||
| Well, that's what Twitter's supposed to be about, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's a great platform, man. | ||
| It's better. | ||
| I think it's the best social media platform. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it keeps people from rambling. | ||
| Well, it's an extended ramble. | ||
| Well, you can. | ||
| You can go on those little one, two, three, fours where people continue them. | ||
| But what I'm saying is if you read people's Facebook, people get so verbose on Facebook. | ||
| I couldn't do Facebook. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| I haven't been on Facebook for a while, and the reason why I decided to get off was my grandma requested me. | ||
| So Lucy Mays, shout out to Lucy. | ||
| She's like, Lucy Mays requested your friend. | ||
| I was like, I can't. | ||
| I can't be on Facebook. | ||
| My grandma's on Facebook, man. | ||
| Your grandma's not on Twitter? | ||
| She's not on Twitter. | ||
| No. | ||
| Some people that, like, they're not in the public eye, they don't know what to do with Twitter. | ||
| They're like, what do I do with this? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| One of my boys just got on, matter of fact, he just got a smartphone, actually. | ||
| Just got a smartphone. | ||
| He's been out the loop, man, and so he gets on Twitter, and he's like, so what do I do? | ||
| You just tweet, man. | ||
| What do I say? | ||
| I'm like, whatever you want to say, man. | ||
| I guess it'd be hard to gain a following from scratch unless you know a lot of people or you have a platform. | ||
| Well, you got to say something fucked up and then someone's got to retweet that and then people start following you. | ||
| I've seen people do that. | ||
| I think that's where trolling started. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| Gaining an audience and just trying to piss people off. | ||
| Trolling is very weird. | ||
| I wonder who has the most fake accounts. | ||
| There's got to be some dude out there that has a record number, like 150 fake accounts just trolls people. | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| Well, that's because you're a successful man with an actual life. | ||
| I mean, that's true. | ||
| I appreciate that, man. | ||
| Says a lot coming from you. | ||
| But I don't know, man. | ||
| It's just weird. | ||
| Your whole internet existence is just to piss people off. | ||
| I guess there's humans like that in real life anyway. | ||
| Oh, there definitely is. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, there definitely is. | ||
| But there's a new thing. | ||
| The ability to do it without seeing the person, without being in contact with them physically. | ||
| You could be on the other side of the planet. | ||
| As a matter of fact, I saw some documentary you were on that you described it beautifully about how when we first got on the internet and there was that AOL dial-up and everybody was just kind of mumbling around. | ||
| Everybody was just kind of bumping into each other and then we're slowly finding a way to interweave it into our existence. | ||
| It was a dope analogy that you put up to us. | ||
| Well, we're in a weird stage right now where it's gonna... | ||
| I don't know what it is, what's coming next, but whatever's coming next is gonna be way more invasive than this. | ||
| It's gotta be AI, man. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Jamie's got some goofy glasses he's got on. | ||
| Check these bitches out. | ||
| He's got these Snapchat glasses. | ||
| Snapchat glasses. | ||
| They have light bulbs in the eye. | ||
| Like, look, when you're filming... | ||
| That's cold. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| So you can actually Snapchat from them? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| All of them goes to my phone. | ||
| I go to my phone and then I put it up. | ||
| I don't have to put all of them up and it's not going live. | ||
| See, this is like just stage one. | ||
| Eventually it's going to be live all the time. | ||
| Like contacts, right? | ||
| You put in contacts. | ||
| That'd be cold. | ||
| That's definitely going to happen. | ||
| That's definitely going to happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, when you said this shit about wolves, how serious were you? | ||
| Were you half serious, fucking around? | ||
| Well, I mean, I was half fucking around, but it's like when you start thinking about it and breaking it down, I really feel like I can. | ||
| But I Everybody thinks, like, I'm talking about, like, everybody, like, especially on Twitter, like, they're posting these big-ass wolves with these 200-pound-plus wolves. | ||
| I'm like, all right, listen, like, those are rare, right? | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| So, like, I'm not the biggest human on Earth, and you're going to give me a picture of the biggest wolf you can find? | ||
| Like, that's not... | ||
| It's not fair. | ||
| It's not fair, right? | ||
| So, Google average wolf size, and I feel like if it was, you know... | ||
| My life was depending on it. | ||
| You have to think like that, right? | ||
| If you run into a wolf and he's threatening you and you're like, I can't get him, you're dead. | ||
| Well, I feel like if you had something on you, you'd have more of a chance. | ||
| I would have some sort of a knife, something. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like I wouldn't be in the woods without something. | ||
| But wolves, man, do you know how hard they bite? | ||
| Yeah, I've done a little research. | ||
| I've done a little research. | ||
| I think it's like 1,200 or something. | ||
| Five times stronger than a pit bull. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I think it's 2,500. | ||
| I think it's 2,500 pounds per square inch. | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| I was looking yesterday. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah? | |
| I think it said a mastiff was stronger than a wolf, which is weird. | ||
| It wasn't in the top five. | ||
| What a big fucking dog. | ||
| But alligators and crocodiles were stronger than that. | ||
| A gorilla was stronger. | ||
| The gorillas bite stronger than that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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unidentified
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Wow. | |
| I would have never imagined that. | ||
| I'll try to look it up again. | ||
| Yeah, they're eating broccoli and shit. | ||
| I mean, strong branches. | ||
| Well, they just have to fight other gorillas for pussy. | ||
| Because they have a one-inch dick and they control a bunch of chicks. | ||
| They have to have a good bite. | ||
| How do you know that they have one? | ||
| I know a lot of shit about gorillas. | ||
| That's what's up, man. | ||
| Little tiny dicks. | ||
| That's what's up, man. | ||
| Well, it's about whether or not the females are promiscuous. | ||
| See, when you look at, like, it's actually the truth with humans, too. | ||
| But testicular size and dick size is directly correlated to the amount of promiscuous females around. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if you're around a bunch of hoes, your balls get bigger. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| What is the evolutionary advantage? | ||
| Well, I guess. | ||
| Well, you gotta sling as much dick as you can because these bitches are just running around with everybody. | ||
| Not on National Woman's Day, bro. | ||
| No, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm so sorry. | ||
| I'm so sorry. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| It was so thoughtless of me. | ||
| But that's why chimps have big dicks. | ||
| And chimps have giant balls. | ||
| You ever see chimp balls? | ||
| I've never seen a chimp ball, man. | ||
| Oh, pull up some chimp balls. | ||
| There's a picture of this hairless chimp who's sitting there, and he has balls that just look like... | ||
| Oh, the one where you kick him back? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, okay, I've seen that one. | ||
| They're like two juicy ripe pears. | ||
| Like two Georgia peaches. | ||
| Look at his balls. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Dude, the size of his fucking balls. | ||
| He's so, like, hugged. | ||
| He's so big. | ||
| He's so jacked. | ||
| That's what chimps look like when you take the hair off of them. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And that's only, you know, 150 pounds. | ||
| So they shave this chimp? | ||
| No, he has mange. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| See all his hands? | ||
| Like, he's got the skin condition all over his hands and shit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You do know a lot about chimps and gorillas. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Well, here's an even crazier one. | ||
| Pull up this picture, Jamie. | ||
| Direct correlation between testicle size and brain size in chimps versus humans. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, that's a human, that's a chimp brain on the top and a chimp ball on the bottom. | ||
| And what's the correlation? | ||
| They have giant balls and little brains! | ||
| If our balls were as big as our brains, we would have a fucking serious problem. | ||
| First of all, we wouldn't be able to walk. | ||
| Yeah, we wouldn't have a lot to... | ||
| We would have to figure out some sort of a harness. | ||
| I feel like our balls would be bigger, though. | ||
| Balls would be bigger than chimps? | ||
| They're not. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They'd be bigger than they are now. | ||
| If what? | ||
| If we had smaller brains. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What they think is that, with chimps especially, because chimps are seriously promiscuous, like there's no monogamy in the chimp world. | ||
| Good for chimps. | ||
| They just fuck everybody. | ||
| Good for them. | ||
| Good for chimps, yeah. | ||
| Getting it everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, we still holding on. | ||
| Which, barely. | ||
| We say we're holding on, but it's like 50% divorce rate. | ||
| It's high, man. | ||
| Yeah, which means 50% divorce rate, and out of the people that are not divorced, how many of those people are living in fucking abject misery? | ||
| Just constantly being beaten down by life and not being happy? | ||
| It's an old custom, man, for sure. | ||
| It's definitely an old custom. | ||
| There's an old quote from Thoreau that most men live lives of quiet desperation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's real shit. | ||
| My favorite is Chris Rock. | ||
| He said, a man is only as faithful as his options. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a good quote, too. | ||
| The chimp thing, though, what's interesting about it is that gorillas have figured out a way to hold it down. | ||
| Like, gorillas keep all those women, like, faithful. | ||
| All the females. | ||
| So he's a polygamist. | ||
| Gorillas are... | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Well, he has a bunch of women. | ||
| He has a harem. | ||
| But the women don't fuck around with any other males other than him. | ||
| So he's got this little dick. | ||
| And not big balls either. | ||
| Gorillas are Mormons. | ||
| I didn't... | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And just giant. | ||
| You know, so they're giant and they have, you know, giant muscles and giant faces and giant jaws and they could kill other gorillas, you know, by biting them and tearing them apart and shit. | ||
| But that's the only thing they use their mouths for. | ||
|
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That's interesting. | |
| Other than eating branches and shit and leaves. | ||
| I don't know why, uh... | ||
| They need that strong jaw then. | ||
| Fight off all the other gorillas. | ||
| But they strong. | ||
| Super strong. | ||
| But so are other gorillas. | ||
| I'm always interested in the evolutionary reason as to why things are the way they are. | ||
| Yeah, it's fascinating. | ||
| So it's like, it's their first instinct to bite. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Because ours isn't. | ||
| I think they show their teeth more than they bite. | ||
| You know, they show their teeth and they beat on each other. | ||
| Intimidation. | ||
| Yeah, because I've seen videos of gorillas beating the shit out of each other. | ||
| Oh yeah, this is one recently, right? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| This is one at the zoo. | ||
| These two gorillas go at it. | ||
| Silverbacks. | ||
| Yeah, and a big gorilla is like about 500 pounds, right? | ||
| The size of a big one, I think. | ||
| These dudes just start circling each other. | ||
| But this is just because they're assholes who ever built this gym. | ||
| You're not supposed to have two silverbacks together like this. | ||
| Yeah, that's why they do that. | ||
| Yeah, so most of what they're doing is just like... | ||
| It's hard for me to go to zoos anyway, man. | ||
| It's depressing. | ||
| Yeah, it's a prison. | ||
| You know what's not depressing, though, that I always say this? | ||
| The giraffe cage. | ||
| Those giraffes don't seem to give a fuck. | ||
| They're just so chill. | ||
| I had a bit about it. | ||
| They just go so slow. | ||
| But no one's eating them. | ||
| They're happy. | ||
|
unidentified
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That's true. | |
| That's all they want to do is just eat and chill. | ||
| I did see wild lions get after one once. | ||
| Oh, in real life? | ||
| No. | ||
| On the internet. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were on safari or something. | ||
| Nah, hell no. | ||
| A buddy of mine went on safari and they saw some lions. | ||
| I think it got a gimsbuck or something like that, but they said it was crazy. | ||
| They saw these female lions chased after this thing and then they were there right when it took it down. | ||
| That's crazy, man. | ||
| Nature's a scary place, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's why I'm surprised that you think you could take a wolf. | ||
| I'm not out here trying to hunt wolves. | ||
| I'm just saying in the event, if I catch an average, if you look at a gray wolf, they're small compared to me. | ||
| Well, they just shot one that was 182 pounds in Minnesota. | ||
| See that one? | ||
| Yeah, everybody gave me that picture. | ||
| The size of a fucking bear. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| It was a big wolf. | ||
| That's on this side of the spectrum. | ||
| If you go towards the middle. | ||
| So what do you think? | ||
| What size? | ||
| 100 pounds? | ||
| You can fuck up a 100-pound wolf? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| I think I just do, man. | ||
| You know you're going to take some damage, right? | ||
| But you think you're going to come out ahead. | ||
| I'm not going to come out like Superman I got. | ||
| It's going to hurt. | ||
| It's definitely going to hurt. | ||
| I might bleed out afterwards. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But you think you'll win overall? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| What are you about, like 230 or something? | ||
| 230 by 230. You're sizing me up over here, too. | ||
| You see that? | ||
| A lot of weigh-ins, man. | ||
| I'm at a lot of weigh-ins. | ||
| I'm used to seeing dudes that are not going to make weight. | ||
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unidentified
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For real. | |
| I'm like, that guy's not 170. This could be a problem. | ||
| You're not. | ||
|
unidentified
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I don't know. | |
| You see how you're a UFC or MMA fan, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How hard can humans kick? | ||
| Humans can kick. | ||
| Pretty hard, but the thing is... | ||
| All I got to do is catch him one on the bottom jaw and all that... | ||
| Not really, man. | ||
| You don't think I could break a wolf's jaw with my kick? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I think their body gives better than ours does. | ||
| Like, the thing about people, one of the things about people getting hit is that people resist. | ||
| They, like, tighten up and like that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons why people get so hurt. | ||
| You ever seen a dude who doesn't know how to fight they get stiff Cracked and they wind up hurt bad, but I was someone who's like loose and relaxed I don't think a wolf is gonna be worried about you kicking him, but that's what I'm saying so I'm also an athlete right so I have a different perspective. | ||
| I've been in combat before. | ||
| Not with wolves, but I've been in combat before. | ||
| Yeah, in the NFL. It's basically combat. | ||
| It is definitely. | ||
| But I understand that you have to be as loose with your body as possible. | ||
| That's how you exert more energy, more efficient energy than tensing up. | ||
| So all that's in my head. | ||
| And plus I know what the wolf is thinking for the most part. | ||
| I'm going to put up a video of a wolf right now. | ||
| I'm going to put it up on my Instagram. | ||
| A regular wolf though? | ||
| Well this is just a video that someone got recently that some dude found. | ||
| I'm going to put it up right now. | ||
| Check it out, Jamie. | ||
| Oh, it's posted. | ||
| It's going to take like three seconds for it to go up. | ||
| But it's a video that someone just sent me and I watched it and I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| It was a guy on a road and he saw this wolf and you could see like the headlights are on this wolf. | ||
| This wolf's like just checking him out on the road. | ||
| I'm terrified of wolves, man. | ||
| I'm not saying I'm not scared. | ||
| I'm just saying, I mean, in a life or death situation... | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is a shitty fucking TV. When's this guy coming to fix this TV? Tomorrow? | ||
|
unidentified
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Friday. | |
| Thank God. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's a big-ass wolf. | ||
| Look at him, checking you out. | ||
| But how bold is this wolf that it's coming near a headlight? | ||
| So odds are he probably got his pack with him, though. | ||
| Oh yeah, the pack's somewhere. | ||
|
unidentified
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Unless he got kicked out. | |
| He might have got kicked. | ||
| He looks like an older wolf. | ||
| He's got scars all over him. | ||
| So he might be injured too. | ||
| I don't think he's injured. | ||
| I think he probably just got fucked up by one of the other wolves and he just realized, alright, I gotta find my own way. | ||
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unidentified
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I feel you. | |
| Wolves are scary, man. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| But you think you can kill one? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I just do, man. | ||
| I think I killed Coyote. | ||
| Like a coyote? | ||
| Yeah, but I might be wrong. | ||
| I don't think you're wrong on that one. | ||
| Coyotes, foxes. | ||
| Foxes easy. | ||
| Fuck yeah, I'll fuck a fox up. | ||
| Set it up. | ||
|
unidentified
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Exactly. | |
| It's interesting, man. | ||
| It's interesting to me how much people have an opinion on wolves. | ||
| All of a sudden, these wolf experts come at it. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Nowhere. | ||
| I think you kind of are, though, right? | ||
| Well, I know, definitely not a wolf expert, but I know a lot about them. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| I was on a sitcom once, and we had a chimp on the set, and it was a baby chimp, like a two-year-old chimp. | ||
| And it had diapers on. | ||
| It was like a little baby. | ||
| And it climbed up on my back, just... | ||
| Just slap me a couple of times on the back just to play. | ||
| It was just playing. | ||
| And I was shocked. | ||
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I was like, how fucking hard did this baby just hit me? | |
| This is crazy. | ||
| And I grabbed his little body, you know, and he was being friendly. | ||
| He wasn't being mean or anything. | ||
| But I grabbed his little body, and it doesn't feel anything like a person. | ||
| Like, you grab even a strong person. | ||
| Like, there's a little give to their arms. | ||
| Even like a fucking powerlifter dude, like the mountain from Game of Thrones. | ||
| I'm sure if that dude was just resting, if you grabbed his arm, there's a little bit of give to him. | ||
| With chimps, they're like corded steel, man. | ||
| That's why a 150-pound chimp is as strong as a 500-pound man. | ||
| It feels like you're grabbing this table. | ||
| Like, literally. | ||
| Like, it was confusing to me. | ||
| And then I was thinking in my head, like, I just have it in my head that that thing is, like, I would scale it down. | ||
| Like, oh, okay, if a person was that big, a person wouldn't be this strong. | ||
| But then when you touch it, you realize, like, that is not composed of the same shit a person's made out of. | ||
| They do other things, though. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, you know, they swing around on trees and those muscles develop. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You can't compare a human-sized chimp No, you can't. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| That's why when you see that hairless one, you see how jacked they really are. | ||
| That's a different, and plus they got thumbs, so it's like, it's different. | ||
| So how big a chimp do you think you can fuck up? | ||
| I don't think I can fuck a chimp up, man. | ||
| Any chimps? | ||
| Maybe the baby one that you got. | ||
| That baby one man might have fucked me up. | ||
| He didn't know it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So you're pretty realistic then. | ||
| We said what? | ||
| You're pretty realistic then. | ||
|
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| So you're thinking like a kick to the face. | ||
| That's the opening move of the wolf? | ||
| Got to be. | ||
| Got to be. | ||
| And he don't know it's coming. | ||
| He doesn't know it's coming, but he's going to leap towards your throat. | ||
| And I'm going to leap towards his jaw. | ||
| I feel like you gotta have that mentality. | ||
| And somebody sent me an article too, right? | ||
| In Russia, some woman survived the wolf attack and killed the wolf. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| How'd she do that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I didn't read past she... | ||
| See, but that goes back to the whole chimp thing, because Russians are built different than regular white people. | ||
| I feel you. | ||
| They're not the same. | ||
| I'm an athlete, though. | ||
| You are an athlete. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| I just feel like if you come into that with the mentality of, I gotta beat this wolf, look, there you go. | ||
| Russian woman attacked by wolf axes it to death. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
|
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Holy shit. | |
| Look at her. | ||
|
unidentified
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Wow. | |
| She probably hopped a bowl of vodka. | ||
| She's 56. She's probably drunk. | ||
| From Dagestan. | ||
| Well, those Dagestan people are hard as fuck. | ||
| That's where Habib Nurmagomedov is from. | ||
| There's a bunch of tough fighters from Dagestan. | ||
| Dagestan's filled with just straight killers. | ||
| I like how we have the information, man. | ||
| Like, right on hand, man. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| What is that human Ken doll up in the upper right-hand corner? | ||
| Can't breathe properly due to plastic surgery? | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Look at that guy's face. | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
| What doctor did that? | ||
| They should find out what doctor did that. | ||
|
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That's a dude? | |
| I guess it's a dude. | ||
| It seems like a not real thing. | ||
| It seems like... | ||
| I don't want to hear this thing talk. | ||
|
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Jesus. | |
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| That's the world we live in today, man. | ||
| The thing you'd have going for you is that a wolf doesn't really want to fight to the death. | ||
| They just want to kill you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They want to kill you, and if they can't kill you, they might be like, oh, this might be a problem. | ||
| Let me get the fuck out of here. | ||
| They say that about, like, mountain lions. | ||
| I don't want to see no mountain lion either, man. | ||
| I don't want to see one either. | ||
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Nah. | |
| But if you get attacked, you're supposed to fight back. | ||
| I heard because my girl right now, she's from the Northwest area and we went on this little hike once. | ||
| And so she told me while we were there, it was like, oh, you know, they have mountain lion. | ||
| They had little packets on how to... | ||
| Deal with if you see a mountain lion. | ||
| I'm like, if you'd have told me that there was mountain lions here, I would not have came. | ||
| But anyway, so I'm reading the pamphlet, and they say if you get big, they usually... | ||
| They back off. | ||
| Yeah, they back off. | ||
| They're kind of scared. | ||
| Yeah, you throw your arms up in the air. | ||
| Yeah, they say, ah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they say if you have a kid with you, you're supposed to pick your kid up and hold it over your head. | ||
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Man, I'm not sure about that. | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| But people have killed mountain lions before with knives and shit. | ||
| If you have a knife and you get attacked by a mountain lion. | ||
| See, there you go, man. | ||
| It's possible, man. | ||
| That's all I'm saying is it's possible, man. | ||
| Well, you definitely have to fight. | ||
| You don't want a wolf to just eat. | ||
| You just lay there. | ||
| And if you have that mentality, dog, you just have to like... | ||
| You're all about that mentality, huh? | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| I'm an athlete, so I come from the mold of like... | ||
| It's either hit or be hit, kill or be killed. | ||
| Like, people out here trying to break my bones. | ||
| So, like, you have to have kind of a psychotic mentality. | ||
| Well, you definitely do to play NFL. Yeah. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| I mean, when you're staring down a team of super athletes and you're just going to collide with each other or try to get across lines, that's a totally different way of living your life. | ||
| It's weird, man. | ||
| Than 99% of the world. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I tell people, like, I've had 14 surgeries in my career. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| It's normal to me and it's normal to people that play in the league. | ||
| After the season, usually everybody gets a surgery of something that's been bothering me. | ||
| What have you had done? | ||
| I've had meniscus several times. | ||
| I've had Achilles back, my pinky, my shoulder. | ||
| I actually played all of my 2010 season with a broken collarbone. | ||
|
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Yeah, I did that game three. | ||
| And it's still broke. | ||
| You can still feel it. | ||
| With a broken collarbone? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| How did you do that? | ||
| Mind over matter, man. | ||
| Because at that time, I went undrafted, right? | ||
| So I had just got my shot to start, and it was game three, and I was having a really good season. | ||
| And it was either, like, in the NFL, if you're not already paid, like, your position is up for grabs. | ||
| And so it's either you push through it, or somebody's going to take your spot. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And so that was my time to shine, so I was like... | ||
| Painkillers, man. | ||
| So could you feel it moving around? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
|
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Oof. | |
| I had to protect it. | ||
| My brother-in-law has, like, a metal piece there. | ||
| He lost his in a BMX accident. | ||
| They put, like, a titanium rod. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I think I need that, man. | ||
| Because, like, right now it's dipped in. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| It's, like, dipped in. | ||
| Did you ever, like, get it looked at? | ||
| Uh, nah, because I didn't want him to know I was hurt. | ||
| And so, because, like, they bring that shit up, like, during when you're negotiating your contract. | ||
| It was like, oh, well, he missed this because he was hurting. | ||
| They bring that. | ||
| They use it as leverage against you. | ||
| And so 2012 was when I signed my contract. | ||
| The day after, I was like, yo, I just want to let y'all know I broke my collarbone two years ago. | ||
| And they're like, no way. | ||
| I was like, yeah. | ||
| They're like, no way. | ||
| So I was like, get an x-ray. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And so we got an x-ray. | ||
| I was like, holy shit, you did. | ||
| I would be impressed. | ||
| I'd be like, that's a guy I want on my team. | ||
| This fucking dude played with a broken collarbone. | ||
| It's bittersweet, right? | ||
| So as soon as you tell them that's what happened, then it's like, oh, well, he gets injured. | ||
| It's a weird... | ||
| What, he's human? | ||
| Who the fuck doesn't get injured playing in NFL? I mean, you would think that's the rational way to go about it. | ||
| Do you know anybody who's played pro football who didn't get injured? | ||
| I mean, how is it even possible? | ||
| I don't feel like it's possible. | ||
| I haven't seen anybody. | ||
| I watched the Super Bowl, and one of the things that I was thinking was like, okay, you're watching all these dudes run and collide with each other, and watching all these tackles, and I was trying to stockpile. | ||
| I was like, in my head, I was like, how many injuries am I watching here? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Because a lot of times dudes will walk off and then later that night they'll be like, oh man, my fucking back is killing me, right? | ||
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It's the worst, man. | |
| It's the worst. | ||
| And then you get it diagnosed and there's some sort of a bulging disc or something. | ||
| The problem I had, because most of my issues that kept me off the field were like soft tissue injuries, which I can't run with, my hamstring won't get, but like all the rest of my stuff. | ||
| My problem became, like, my pain, my tolerance for pain, my threshold, it became so high that, like, I don't even know what hurt and what was normal anymore. | ||
| So, like, I'm still kind of dealing with a lot of those aches and pains and stuff now, but it's like, you just push through it because the pain was normal. | ||
| You just get accustomed to it. | ||
| Yeah, you just, pain becomes a part of life. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Did you always know that like when you were... | ||
| I'm sure you played in high school and you played in college. | ||
| Did you always know that this was eventually gonna lead to like a point where your body just wasn't gonna be able to do it anymore? | ||
| Did you think about that? | ||
| You say that, right? | ||
| And people tell you about it, but, you know, they say ignorance is bliss. | ||
| Like, you don't know it actually affects you until it actually affects you. | ||
| And so, like, one of the worst games I've ever been a part of was we were playing Chicago in 2012, I think. | ||
| And it was raining, so they just running the ball the whole game. | ||
| And the next day I woke up, I'm limping, walking towards the bathroom. | ||
| It took me about five minutes and my bathroom was right there. | ||
| So it took me five minutes. | ||
| I was literally limping. | ||
| My body was just beat up. | ||
| Most of the painkillers were off from the game. | ||
| And when you're going through it, you don't really realize it. | ||
| But towards the end of my career, that's kind of why I decided to walk away. | ||
| Because I was like, is it worth it anymore? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm relatively healthy. | ||
| I can walk. | ||
| Who knows what I've done to my brain? | ||
| The onset of that comes on years later. | ||
| But after a while, it just stopped being worth it to me anymore. | ||
| Plus, I kind of just fell out of love with it. | ||
| That's a weird place to be, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, when you're saying you don't know what's going on with your brain, do you notice anything now? | ||
| Nothing that I haven't... | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I mean, I've definitely had concussions before. | ||
| And earlier on, the CT stuff kind of... | ||
| That was probably like 2013-14 is when the science really started and the news media really started talking about it. | ||
| But growing up, it was kind of just called a dinger. | ||
| You just got dunked. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You got dinged. | ||
| And no one worried about the consequences? | ||
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Nah. | |
| So we didn't really know. | ||
| So it was just part of it. | ||
| I've definitely had concussions before where you're not really sure where you are, but somehow your subconscious knows what to do when you play. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird, man. | ||
| So you're out of it because you got cracked and you're just kind of going through the game anyway? | ||
| Keep playing. | ||
| Do you remember it afterwards? | ||
| Parts. | ||
| Parts. | ||
| That happens a lot to fighters. | ||
| They'll get dropped in the first round and then they'll be on their corner in the fourth round, headed into the fifth, and they'll think it's the second round. | ||
| And then the coach will go, hey man, you fought three more rounds than you think you did. | ||
| They're like, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| This is the second round, right? | ||
| Like, no, this is the last round. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| It's amazing to me that people are able to function on such a high level, not really conscious of what's going on. | ||
| That's got to be your training, right? | ||
| Yes, that's all training is, is you're training your body to become second nature. | ||
| So now, when you were in high school and you were in college, was there any talk at all about brain damage? | ||
| Was there any talk about CTE? Not really. | ||
| Nobody worried about it. | ||
| No, it was just not... | ||
| It wasn't... | ||
| The science wasn't complete. | ||
| I'm pretty sure there were neuroscientists saying, like, your brain damage is real. | ||
| But the science wasn't as definitive as it is now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But no one connected it the way they did with boxing? | ||
| Not to us. | ||
| Not to me. | ||
| Now, people are worrisome about putting their kids in youth leagues and stuff like that. | ||
| And they're even talking about not letting youth leagues have tackle football at all, which I'm an advocate for. | ||
| I don't think there's no point for it. | ||
| My sons are not going to play football. | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| Wow, that's crazy. | ||
| I made up my body so they could have a free ride or whatever they want to do, man. | ||
| What if they want to play football? | ||
| I'm going to say sit down, man. | ||
| You got to trust for it, man. | ||
| Relax. | ||
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Yeah, but what if they want to be their own man, you know? | |
| I'm not going to physically stop him. | ||
| I mean, I probably could, but... | ||
| I would seriously sit him down and let him know the consequences. | ||
| Show him people and show him the risk factors involved. | ||
| Like, it is not worth it. | ||
| I know you want to... | ||
| I mean, as much as a son wants to walk in his father's shoes, it's just not worth it, man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you're probably not going to be as good. | ||
| That's just how. | ||
| What if your kid wanted to fight? | ||
| Like a box? | ||
| Yeah, a box or kickbox or MMA or something like that. | ||
| I wouldn't advocate that either. | ||
| You wouldn't let them do that? | ||
| No, I'm pushing them to go towards education. | ||
| I want them to be scientists. | ||
| If I had to do it over again, I wouldn't have never played football. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I'd be a scientist. | ||
| You would start from the beginning. | ||
| If you could go back to college, knowing what you know now... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| And just because of the damage to your body? | ||
| Well, that and... | ||
| So it's a weird... | ||
| It's a weird thing. | ||
| So, like, you're in your prime physically as a man, but you're in your infancy mentally, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, like, I'm just now figuring out who I am and what kind of man I want to be. | ||
| And while you're in your prime, that's when you're in the public eye. | ||
| So you have to deal with all of that on top of figuring out who you are in a fishbowl. | ||
| And it's a really weird thing. | ||
| So I don't even want to deal with any kind of recognition or any kind of fame or whatever people want to call it. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| I don't want it. | ||
| I feel like the best society would be artists and scientists. | ||
| That would be an ideal society to me. | ||
| Wow, that's an interesting take on things, considering how successful you've been playing football. | ||
| I mean, playing football obviously was very financially rewarding to you, made you famous. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I mean, if just some regular dude went on Twitter and started talking about, I could take a wolf one-on-one, nobody would give a fuck. | ||
| Nobody would care. | ||
| They'd be like, shut up, stupid. | ||
| I doubt anybody cares anyway, but it's just... | ||
| No, people care, man. | ||
| Fucking my Twitter exploded when I said you were coming on. | ||
| They're like, you better school him. | ||
| Tell him about wolves, man. | ||
| You better tell him about wolves, man. | ||
| My uncle shot a wolf, man. | ||
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He was going to kill his whole family. | |
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It's a weird... | ||
| Once you get to that financial summit that everybody strives for, that American dream, you realize that there is no there. | ||
| And if you ain't happy with $10, you're not going to be happy with a million. | ||
| It's just not going to happen. | ||
| Now, granted, there are some things that you need monetary value in the society to a certain extent. | ||
| I think they did a study. | ||
| It's like after $75,000 a year, money can't buy happiness. | ||
| So everything else out there is just luxury. | ||
| And really, if you put it in perspective, I think like 35%, I mean, if you make $35,000 a year, you're in the top 1% of wealth in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| So it's all about perspective, man. | ||
| And it took me to get to that financial summit to understand that, unfortunately. | ||
| But the weird thing about it is once you tell people that and you're on top of this financial summit, it's easy for you to say. | ||
| I'm like, all right. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Easy for you to say. | ||
| I know a lot of miserable millionaires, man. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| It's really interesting that you said that, like, growing up and figuring out who you are while you're in a fishbowl, and you're also involved in, not just, you're not just in a fishbowl, you're involved in, like, this competitive fishbowl, where your value is being judged by your ability to cover distance and speed, by your ability to score points, or stop people from scoring points. | ||
| That's kind of crazy, too. | ||
| It's, um... | ||
| Football is not a place for thinkers. | ||
| And I'm not saying that I'm the only person that has these thoughts. | ||
| But if you question authority and you're questioning a lot of things, football is not the place for you. | ||
| Because if you're inquisitive at all, it comes off as arrogant and it comes off as disruptive. | ||
| And I never was. | ||
| I was always just like, why do we do things this way? | ||
| Especially in college, right? | ||
| Football has this weird... | ||
| Relationship with coach to player That like You can talk to other men Like You can treat them like shit So the coach can The coach can yell at the player You piece of shit You're not doing this Right? | ||
| But if I use If you was working at Home Depot And your boss comes like You piece of shit You didn't stock that box It'd be like You'd be calling HR You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But it's just a weird For some reason in that arena It's okay And like I was like Listen man If you want me to do something Like I used to tell my coach Like don't yell at me Like there's no reason for you to yell at me Cause like You know what I mean? | ||
| Fuck you up easier than a wolf. | ||
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Yeah, man. | |
| It didn't make any sense to me. | ||
| Like, why on this field is it okay? | ||
| But as soon as we walk up this field, you wouldn't dare yell at me like that. | ||
| Why is that okay? | ||
| And plus, you're a hothead coming out of high school. | ||
| I mean, I was at least, and a lot of us are, because you just come from those neighborhoods where... | ||
| Do you think that's just because they have to control these big groups of super athletes, so they have to kind of posture and yell at them like you would yell at a guard dog or something like that? | ||
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It's cattle. | |
| It's cattle. | ||
| So you just have to... | ||
| It's that same old mechanism of fear, right? | ||
| So people rule by fear. | ||
| So you rule with the bigger stick. | ||
| So that's how humans have done it for centuries. | ||
| That's just how they get into your head about, hold this leverage over you. | ||
| I have fear. | ||
| I have your scholarship. | ||
| I have this. | ||
| I have this. | ||
| If you don't do what I say, all that gets taken away. | ||
| And it works. | ||
| But for me, it didn't. | ||
| I was like, I don't... | ||
| But because of that, you're labeled as like a trouble backer. | ||
| Yeah, that's part of the reason why I didn't get drafted. | ||
| I found out the coaches said that I wasn't coachable. | ||
| I was like, not that I wasn't coachable, man. | ||
| I just didn't like getting yelled at. | ||
| Wow, that's bizarre. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen that before. | ||
| I've seen coaches screaming at athletes that could kill them. | ||
| And you don't see that in other sports. | ||
| You definitely don't see that in MMA. Well, in MMA also, the coach relationship with the fighter is like a father-son relationship in a lot of ways. | ||
| They're like brothers or at the very least family. | ||
| That's like an intense bond. | ||
| I'm not saying every coach is like that. | ||
| But it's definitely a culture. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's definitely a culture. | ||
| Do you think that's changing? | ||
| With this whole Kaepernick thing and people are sort of aware of people being more socially conscious, more aware of people using their fame for a platform to voice their opinions on certain social issues, is that changing? | ||
| I think it has to. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Well, social media is just changing everything. | ||
| It's changing the way we think. | ||
| It's changing the way situations are monitored because it's like there's a camera with you everywhere. | ||
| But I think in a bigger sense, athletes in general are becoming more outspoken. | ||
| Athletes are becoming more well-versed. | ||
| They're really understanding their brand power. | ||
| And with that, you have to change the way things have been done in the past. | ||
| Simple stuff like training camp. | ||
| Training camp used to be two days, full pads, and you're hitting all the time. | ||
| You can't do that anymore because the athletes are getting bigger, stronger, and faster. | ||
| So if you want your cattle to last longer, you've got to take care of them when you're practicing. | ||
| That'll just talk like that. | ||
| It's so disturbing. | ||
| It's the truth, though, man. | ||
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I know it is. | |
| I know it is. | ||
| That's why it's disturbing. | ||
| We get compensated heavily in the NFL. The NCAA is just a whole other conversation. | ||
| Those crooks don't pay their employees, but as far as the NFL, you get compensated. | ||
| And you know the risks. | ||
| For the most part, you know the risks going into the NFL. I chose to do this at a young age. | ||
| I'm glad you just said that, those crooks don't pay their employees, because that is a dark and dirty fucking business. | ||
| College sports. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| I hate it, and I don't have anything to do with it, but I watch it. | ||
| I'm like, that's cool. | ||
| When you find out how much those fucking schools get from all those people in order to make sure that their team is successful, because the alma mater is one of, yay, we fucking won again, and they get billions of dollars. | ||
| They're a fucking huge, huge business. | ||
| And the athletes don't get paid anything. | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| Many times I've told my side of that story, man. | ||
| I'm not a fan of the NCAA at all. | ||
| I'm not a fan either. | ||
| I think it's stealing. | ||
| I think they're stealing from those athletes. | ||
| And you're ruining their careers, most likely. | ||
| If you do four hard years of college football, what are the odds you're going to get out of that without a permanent injury? | ||
| I had, I think, three or four of my surgeries came from college. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| And you're playing for free. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And you're playing for free. | ||
| And my buddy... | ||
| But hey, you get an education. | ||
| See, that's the thing that kills me, man, when people say that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They always like to say that. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| So when I first went to school, I wanted to study astronomy. | ||
| Like, that was what I wanted to study. | ||
| So I went to my... | ||
| Academic advisor. | ||
| And I was like, okay, this is what I want to do. | ||
| Like, it took me like a year to figure out, okay, this is what I want to do. | ||
| I was in love with the stars and the colors. | ||
| I just wanted to know about it. | ||
| And as soon as I studied, I was like, oh, you can't do that. | ||
| I was like, why? | ||
| Because those classes conflict with the practice schedules and the meeting schedules. | ||
| And I was like, well, shit. | ||
| And so I had to wait another year in order to find what I wanted to do. | ||
| And I ended up settling for philosophy, which was a cool major. | ||
| But it wasn't... | ||
| I feel like if I would have got influenced by astronomy early on, then it would have changed my trajectory. | ||
| It would have changed the way I thought about it a lot. | ||
| Or I'd arrived to the conclusions that I'm at now a lot sooner. | ||
| Yeah, the whole you're getting an education thing. | ||
| Are you getting a real education? | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| It was about a month, maybe a month or three weeks after the season, before you go into spring ball, which is like you're up at five in the morning lifting, running, yada, yada, yada. | ||
| But there was like a three-week period where they leave you alone and you're just like a regular student. | ||
| And I did not know what to do with my time. | ||
| I'm like, how are these people not acing their classes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't understand how... | ||
| I mean, granted, they were taking tougher courses, but it's just like you have so much time. | ||
| I didn't know what to do with my time, whereas before, I'm up early in the morning, lifting weights, running, then going to class, then after class, get a little lunch, then go to another class, then you come back and you're in meetings, and after meetings, you go to practice, and after practice, you find some kind of energy to study. | ||
| Yeah, well, give me a rundown. | ||
| So what time of morning would you get up? | ||
| When you're in school... | ||
| Usually I had some of the... | ||
| Most of my classes were 8 o'clock classes. | ||
| So 8 a.m. | ||
| you're up? | ||
| No, I was up before that. | ||
| And depending on the day... | ||
| So you have to get a workout in. | ||
| Every strength coach has a different protocol. | ||
| So you have to lift at least three times a week. | ||
| Two to three times a week. | ||
| And so you either lift before class or before practice or after practice. | ||
| So you have to find your time. | ||
| But after practice has got to be hard, right? | ||
| Yeah, really then you're just kind of going through the motions. | ||
| But do you want to do it before practice? | ||
| Because then you might be tired when you go into practice. | ||
| You might not perform up to the best of your abilities. | ||
| I was not the best at that. | ||
| I used to get in trouble a lot because I was like, there's no way you guys can expect me to do all of this shit. | ||
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I used to get in trouble a lot for skipping weights. | |
| And I wasn't big on weights anyway. | ||
| I was like, I didn't see, because we had a lot of Olympic weight lifting. | ||
| And that's kind of changing too. | ||
| We had a lot of deadlifts and squats and shit like that. | ||
| And I was never a fan of that stuff. | ||
| I was like, this is not conducive to being successful. | ||
| What do you think is? | ||
| Plyos? | ||
| Plyos? | ||
| Like yoga. | ||
| If we had yoga, I'd have been there every time because it's like you're getting loose. | ||
| Being limber is more important than being strong in my opinion, especially in my position. | ||
| I mean, there are some positions like D-linemen and offensive linemen where you gotta push. | ||
| But I'm not one of those positions. | ||
| I wasn't one of those positions being a running back. | ||
| Like DBs, receivers, stay limber, stay hydrated with good nutrition. | ||
| So for you, it's more important to be flexible and to be able to move your body in very fluid ways. | ||
| So to be able to avoid takedowns, to be able to avoid somebody trying to tackle you, more pliable is better. | ||
| In my opinion, yeah. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| That's an interesting way of looking at it. | ||
| So they would force you to do a certain amount of lifts? | ||
| Yeah, you got to do a certain amount of lifts, and then you got to go to class, and you got to stay up. | ||
| And then when you're doing these lifts, are they supervised, or you have to do them on your own? | ||
| Yeah, you have coaches in there. | ||
| That's another thing that bothered me, too. | ||
| I was like a rebel, man, because they would follow you around the weight room, right? | ||
| Because some guys liked to try to jerk the system. | ||
| And I'm like, this is what I want to do with my life. | ||
| I'm not going to cheat myself. | ||
| Stop following me around. | ||
| Right, leave me alone. | ||
| Yeah, it was weird. | ||
| And then they have class checkers that follow you, make sure you go to class. | ||
| Class checkers. | ||
| Yeah, and it's just like, bro, I just feel like a little kid, man. | ||
| Get out of my face. | ||
| And so after a while, that just wore on me, and the whole system wore on me. | ||
| And on top of that, I'm hungry. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You don't get the food. | ||
| I know people won't get on me again. | ||
| People from Tennessee hate me, bro. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| People from Tennessee hate you? | ||
| Why? | ||
| I went there, and for some reason, anytime I say anything about the NCAA, they think I'm talking about Tennessee itself. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| They're like, fuck you, man. | ||
| I still have people to this day. | ||
| Matter of fact, yesterday in my mentions talking about fumbles I had from like 10 years ago. | ||
| It's weird, man. | ||
| People are awkward, man. | ||
| Well, people love to bring up things that you've done wrong. | ||
| When I was like 18 years old... | ||
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People love that. | |
| They love it. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| It's funny, man. | ||
| It is funny. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| So you would get up in the morning and you would have to figure out when you're... | ||
| So would you schedule your lifts in? | ||
| It's not necessarily a schedule. | ||
| It's more like a... | ||
| Whatever suits your schedule the best. | ||
| So if you have an 8 o'clock class, you get up... | ||
| You can either go before class or whenever your break is, during... | ||
| And how many classes are you doing a day? | ||
| It's probably like 2 or 3. And what, are you supposed to keep up a certain GPA? Yeah, 2.5. | ||
| So you have to keep up a 2... | ||
| What is that, like a C average or something? | ||
| A C average. | ||
| So you would, you go to your class, you do whatever you gotta do, and then how many times a day are you practicing? | ||
| Once a day. | ||
| Once a day. | ||
| But then you have meetings. | ||
| Meetings are like an hour 30. And the meetings are essentially going over strategy? | ||
| Yeah, you get your playbook, your game plan, watch film on the other team or yourself. | ||
| Is it hard to motivate yourself watching all that shit? | ||
| Yeah, after a while. | ||
| For me, because my quarterbacks are different. | ||
| They don't have to... | ||
| Exerting as much physical energy as we do, and they're more on a mental game, so they have to know the defensive games that the defensive coordinator's playing, right? | ||
| So what coverage they're in, what the safeties are doing. | ||
| They have to know all that. | ||
| As a running back, you kind of have to know, but not as much. | ||
| You kind of just have to know where their blitzes are coming from. | ||
| I don't want to bore you with the intricacy, but after a while, I didn't need to watch much film in order for me to get my assignment done, so a lot of the time, I'm just sitting there wasting time. | ||
| A lot of guys feel like that, too. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine sitting there watching some stupid plays. | ||
| I always told my coaches, especially in the league, I was like, you could give me my game plan, like, Saturday before the game, and I'll execute it. | ||
| Like, I didn't need, I think a lot of what they do in the NFL is just reinforcement. | ||
| It's just over and over, and it's repetition, it's repetition. | ||
| And after a while, especially if you're a veteran, you don't need, that's why Brett Favre, like, when he was deciding whether to come back or not, He was like, I would love to, but all that other shit, I don't like doing all the meetings. | ||
| That's what kept him back? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It just gets old. | ||
| It gets super old, man. | ||
| If you know what you're doing and you're well-versed in your craft, you don't need half of that shit. | ||
| And this is terrible for the younger cast that are listening to this. | ||
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| Y'all need it, man. | ||
| Well, there's something about a guy like Brett Favre, too, with all that fucking gray hair, all grizzled old veteran. | ||
| He's a goat, man. | ||
| Still wanting to do it. | ||
| He's a goat, man. | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| He's a goat, man. | ||
| It's just crazy that he still wanted to do it. | ||
| I mean, how many times has that guy been dinged? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| They don't get hit a lot, though. | ||
| Get hit enough. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| You know, Jim McMahon's all fucked up now. | ||
| I mean, most ex-players are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Most ex-players are. | ||
| I was reading that Sports Illustrated article about McMahon, and he did an interview on one of those sports radio stations. | ||
| I was listening to it. | ||
| It was disturbing. | ||
| He was talking about he'll be, like, somewhere, and he just totally forgot how he got there, where he's going, why do I have my keys in my hand, where am I going? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's part of the unfortunate part of the process. | ||
| So they would follow you around and make sure you go to classes with some dude with a clipboard? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Mr. Foster? | ||
| Some GA. Have you gone to your math class today? | ||
| They wouldn't say anything though, right? | ||
| So they wouldn't say anything. | ||
| So they would send them and they would check and see if you're in there. | ||
| And if you're not in there, they'll report back to their coach and be like, oh, he missed so-and-so. | ||
| And then you got to go up to the coach's office like, why weren't you? | ||
| I'm like, the crazy shit is... | ||
| In college, that's where you kind of learn how to time management as... | ||
| That's where you learn your time management as an adult, right? | ||
| So they don't even allow you to become an adult how most adults become adults in that college system. | ||
| So, like, some teachers, some professors will give you a syllabus and say, here's going to be the work for you, and show up when you want to show up, but you're responsible for your own information at the end of the day, for the most part. | ||
| We don't even get that luxury. | ||
| You have to go every single day, every class. | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| Students aren't even required. | ||
| Why am I required? | ||
| Yeah, you could study at home if you wanted to, and maybe even learn more. | ||
| And that was really the beginning of online, like syllabuses, online stuff. | ||
| So I'm not sure, maybe colleges have adjusted to that nowadays, but from when I was gone, it was mandated you had to go to every class. | ||
| Well, it seems like you're preparing for... | ||
| A career in professional sports, but you're also pretending that you're getting a real education, like a regular person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it is kind of pretending, because there's no way you could be preparing for high-level college athletics and have the same time to devote to your studies. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| And that's why I said I would do it again. | ||
| If I had to do it again, I would do something else. | ||
| You just wouldn't go football at all? | ||
| Because the shit that keeps me up at night now, it's not football. | ||
| And that's how I knew it was time to get out. | ||
| I'm sitting on the sidelines and I'm thinking about other shit. | ||
| Like what kind of shit? | ||
| It's physics. | ||
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Physics? | |
| Really? | ||
| It keeps me up at night, man. | ||
| It keeps me up at night. | ||
| What kind of physics? | ||
| Theoretical physics. | ||
| So what got me into it was relativity. | ||
| That's what hooked me in. | ||
| Like Einstein? | ||
| E equals MC square? | ||
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That kind of shit? | |
| What got in? | ||
| You just fascinated by the concept of it? | ||
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It's... | |
| I don't know how anybody isn't, man. | ||
| The whole story... | ||
| Relativity brought me in. | ||
| How it happened was one day I was actually high, man. | ||
| So I was smoking weed. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it kind of hit me. | ||
| Because you hear about what Einstein did, but you don't really understand it. | ||
| Because, I mean, unless it sparks your interest, right? | ||
| And so I was just sitting there watching the documentary. | ||
| And he proved how light bends, right? | ||
| So gravity bends light. | ||
| And it just kind of hit me. | ||
| I was like, that shit is crazy. | ||
| So I just started digging more and more and more. | ||
| And then you research the beginnings of when we started... | ||
| Research in light in the first place like Newton figured out that light breaks and it's just a whole entire Science history of that the aspect of light gravity is just blew me away And I just just got hooked Neil deGrasse Tyson was here two weeks ago and he fucked my head up My head has been broken ever since he said that if you go 1g like out into space like say if you're in a like a rocket it shoots 1g out into space and If it continues to go at 1G with that same force, | ||
| because there's no air in space, the momentum of that... | ||
| Because most of the time what they do, the rocket's cut off and then you just move forward on the momentum because you're in a vacuum. | ||
| You're just flying through space. | ||
| But if you continue to propel at 1G... You will reach, like, just under the speed of light. | ||
| So if you, like, if you're going to somewhere that's five light years away, it would take one year more. | ||
| So instead of five years, it would take you six years. | ||
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Right. | |
| So if it's ten light years away, it'll take you eleven years. | ||
| So it's a year under the speed of light. | ||
| I was like, what in the fuck? | ||
| I didn't know that either. | ||
| Can you imagine how fast that is? | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| Fucking light! | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| Think of how fast light moves. | ||
| And you can get that fast, almost as fast as the speed of light, by just going one G. I didn't know that. | ||
| That's been fucking with me for two weeks. | ||
| I'll sometimes get up in the morning and I'll just try to think of how fast that is. | ||
| That shit's crazy. | ||
| Like if you were watching someone whizzed by you. | ||
| You wouldn't even be able to catch it. | ||
| You wouldn't even be able to see it. | ||
| Yeah, it would be too fast for you to see. | ||
| And that's a person. | ||
| In a tube. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| And then you start digging into the relativity about that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's gonna be aging slower than you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because he's moving faster. | ||
| That's really crazy. | ||
| So that shit, shit like that keeps me up at night, man. | ||
| And so like I wish, like I'm to the point now where like I've done enough reading about it, like and unless I start learning the math of it, like I've reached my limit of what to know about physics. | ||
| Are you thinking about doing that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Really? | |
| I'm probably gonna get back in school. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What if you become some fucking CERN scientist? | ||
| That'd be dope, man. | ||
| Go down there and work on the Large Hadron Collider or some shit? | ||
| To me, that's more... | ||
| I mean, I guess any kind of goal that you set as a seven-year-old and obtain is you should be super proud of. | ||
| But my conscience tells me, you haven't given anything to this society. | ||
| And that's the way my brain thinks. | ||
| And so it's like, unless I do something like that, I just feel like I've been bumping around. | ||
| How old are you now? | ||
| 30. Well, you still got plenty of room. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| I'll be coming late in the game, but yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but you come in the game with a lot of life experience at an intense level that most people just could never even comprehend. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You know, I mean, there's got to be some sort of enhanced perspective from playing football at the highest level in the world. | ||
| I mean, there's got to be something to that. | ||
| You're playing in the NFL. Just the amount of intensity and just the problem solving that you're having to deal with on the field and just the overcoming the physical injuries, that mental strength that you have to have to deal with the kind of pain that you've had to experience. | ||
| That alone, all that stuff, I mean, all that stuff, it might not seem like it applies, but I feel like everything applies. | ||
| I think every book you read, every relationship you're in, every friendship you have, everything that you see that changes the way you look at life, all those things sort of add layers to your existence. | ||
| I appreciate the pep talk, man. | ||
| Dude, fuck that. | ||
| Get back in there. | ||
| It would be crazy if you became some crazy huge physicist. | ||
| That's a goal of mine, man, is to definitely get a bachelor's. | ||
| Well, it's completely possible. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Bachelor's is possible and PhD is possible too if you really want to work towards it. | ||
| Yeah, it's a long egregious process, but I think I'm up for it, man. | ||
| I just want to do a little more relaxing because I just retired in what, November? | ||
| And what caused you to retire? | ||
| Like physically, are you okay? | ||
| Yeah, I'm okay physically. | ||
| It was just a little bit of both. | ||
| So I had a couple of nagging injuries and also so I'm sitting on the sidelines and I'm just not into it. | ||
| I remember vividly thinking like, I don't care at all who wins this game. | ||
| I just don't care, man. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| That's why I love Adam Gates. | ||
| He's the head coach at the Miami Dolphins. | ||
| The whole organization in Miami, they let me bow out gracefully. | ||
| They respected what I did in the NFL and they were like, listen, do it how you want to do it and we're not going to make it hard for you. | ||
| Some NFL organizations could be a dick about it. | ||
| They could take money from you. | ||
| They could do all kinds of shit. | ||
| But they were really good about the process. | ||
| I guess the way I explained it to them was like, man, I feel like they had a good team. | ||
| And I felt like if I'm sitting here just holding on for a check, I'm wasting your time and you're wasting my time. | ||
| And so there's no reason for me to be here anymore because my heart just isn't in it anymore. | ||
| I appreciate what the game did for myself, for my family. | ||
| And it's kept me driven for 30 years, man. | ||
| But it was just time to go. | ||
| That's a very balanced perspective. | ||
| For a lot of people, the big paychecks are hard to walk away from. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But you have the point of view, you have enough perspective, enough objective perspective to look outside of it and go, this is not where I want to be. | ||
| And it was a weird parting, too, because that's all I've known since I was seven years old. | ||
| Every fall. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And even before that, getting ready for football. | ||
| It's just all I've known. | ||
| It's been my life. | ||
| And I just got to the point where, man, it's just a whole big world out there, and I need to feed off that. | ||
| That's very confident of you, too. | ||
| That's what's really powerful about that, is that you realize that you're kind of starting from scratch. | ||
| Obviously not, because you're financially successful, you're famous, you got some stuff going on, but you're entering into a completely different world now, as far as the potential of your future. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I've always been a humble cat, man. | ||
| I never thought that I was any bigger or better. | ||
| None of that shit ever mattered to me because I would be in the middle of a game and think, this is weird, people just watching us play a game. | ||
| This shit is so weird. | ||
| 100,000 people are like, this is so awkward to me. | ||
| But I've always kept that perspective. | ||
| Like I didn't think anything of it because I didn't think anything of it. | ||
| It was just a game at the end of the day. | ||
| And so I don't know, man, the future is wide open now. | ||
| And like I said, I'm extremely appreciative of everything that the game has brought me, though. | ||
| Now, when you were in college, the big thing in college football is always that players are getting paid off. | ||
| They're getting money. | ||
| Did any of that shit ever happen with you? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| I caused a big stir a while back because I admitted that. | ||
| And this is a weird thing, too. | ||
| So players were mad at me for saying it. | ||
| And I was like, why would you say that? | ||
| You're fucking it up for the younger cats. | ||
| And I'm just like... | ||
| Once y'all realize that these rules that the NCAA made are stupid and all it takes is for everybody to stand up and say, this is stupid, they'll go away. | ||
| They're their own separate entity. | ||
| They don't answer to anybody. | ||
| They're just the NCAA. And they have contracts with the television stations. | ||
| And so that's what's keeping them in play. | ||
| Millions of dollars. | ||
| Billions. | ||
| So if the athletes finally wake up and say, like my dad had a great idea, so say all the top recruits stop going to the big schools, right? | ||
| So they start going to places like Grambling or some of the smaller schools, right? | ||
| That would take away the NCAA's leverage. | ||
| And then you can start paying the players. | ||
| And I'm not saying that they should get a salary like the NFL. I don't know. | ||
| Those semantics can be worked out when the time comes. | ||
| All I'm saying is the NCAA is they're holding everybody hostage by a system that was put in place in the, what, 1930s or 20s or something like that? | ||
| When the big business of college football wasn't even close to what it is now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the sponsorship and all of that stuff, it wasn't even near what it is now. | ||
| You have the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. | ||
| You have the Nokia Sugar Bowl. | ||
| These are companies that are paying millions of dollars in order to have them play under that guise. | ||
| Well, it seems to me like what college is is almost like a farm team. | ||
| It is. | ||
| They don't want to call it that, though. | ||
| They don't want to call it. | ||
| You're pretending that these are students. | ||
| And they're kind of students. | ||
| I mean, that you make them sit in class and you make them get a C. There are cats that play that are going to go pro in something other than sports. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| Do you think that it would be okay if they did it the way they're doing it now, but they pay the athletes and they make school an option? | ||
| That, to me, we've discussed a lot of that, man. | ||
| And, um... | ||
| I don't see a problem with that, and I'll tell you why. | ||
| And I also think you should be able to get a degree in football because there are so many jobs that the NFL has, right? | ||
| You have commentators, you have GMs, you have staff that work all throughout the NFL offices. | ||
| Why can't you major in football? | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| It's a business. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's a business, but for some reason we're treating it like it's not a business. | ||
| And as soon as we wake up and say, this is a business, I think... | ||
| Progression will happen, and it always does, but they're just holding on to this circular reasoning of, no, they're amateur athletes. | ||
| Well, why are they amateur athletes? | ||
| Because we don't pay them. | ||
| Why don't we pay them? | ||
| Because they're amateur athletes. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, and I feel like if you did get a degree in football, then your time could be spent learning physiology, strength and conditioning, protocols. | ||
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| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because, I mean, it took me until... | ||
| I didn't really understand nutrition until I got out of college, honestly. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I didn't really understand it. | ||
| There was a nutritionist there, but it wasn't as detailed as it is now. | ||
| What were they telling you? | ||
| I didn't care. | ||
| That was the thing. | ||
| I didn't care. | ||
| I was drinking a lot and I was eating a lot of Wendy's, right? | ||
| Because when you're 19 years old, it don't affect your body. | ||
| You can put whatever in your body really. | ||
| But then when you start getting to where this is your job and you can start filling those burgers on you the next day, It was like, hold on, maybe I need to look into this. | ||
| So I looked into it independently and that's when I didn't understand what nutrition did for the body. | ||
| I really didn't understand. | ||
| But you can do nutrition, physiology, everything that you're interested in and that is helpful to your craft. | ||
| Do you think when you're young that it doesn't affect your body or do you think you're not tuned in enough to your body to realize it's affecting you? | ||
| I think a little bit of both, man. | ||
| A little bit of both? | ||
| You have to watch what you eat as you get older, that's for sure. | ||
| And when I really started noticing, it was like 23, 24. When I was like, alright, those heavy weekends where I'm eating whatever I want and getting drunk, they're fucking with me. | ||
| So I have to really start looking at what is good to put in my body and what is not. | ||
| You kind of know just based off the pyramid and you growing up hearing what's good and what's bad. | ||
| But once you... | ||
| Once you understand and break down the carbs and all of this stuff that you're putting in your body, it takes your game to the next level. | ||
| And it did that to me. | ||
| So what kind of advice did they give you in college as far as nutrition? | ||
| What did they tell you to eat? | ||
| I mean, it's a lot of the same stuff. | ||
| A lot of grilled, make sure nothing fried. | ||
| You don't want to load up on carbs. | ||
| Certain kind of carbs aren't as good for you. | ||
| Some carbs are really good, like sweet potatoes are really good. | ||
| They were giving me the... | ||
| Good information. | ||
| I wasn't ready to receive the information, so I can't fault them. | ||
| But once you got out of college, then you started really paying attention to it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And what did you follow after that? | ||
| The same model that... | ||
| So it's like the grill stuff, stuff like that. | ||
| And then I have such an addictive personality, I started doing a lot. | ||
| So I started getting into being a vegan, right? | ||
| And plant-based. | ||
| And so it led me to there, like researching food and nutrition. | ||
| That lifestyle is not for me. | ||
| I tried it for about six, seven months. | ||
| But... | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I mean, I tried the best I could to eat as healthy as I could. | ||
| What happened with you with trying vegan? | ||
| It was really good, man. | ||
| I met a lot of good people. | ||
| Vegans come out of the woodworks to show the support. | ||
| They also put you in the guillotine when you leave, though. | ||
| Traitor. | ||
| Yeah, they get mad. | ||
| Yeah, they're super, man. | ||
| But, you know, I kind of support the lifestyle, man. | ||
| Plant-based. | ||
| You could be a vegan and drink Coke and eat chips all day. | ||
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| But, like, plant-based lifestyle, I feel like it's really healthy. | ||
| And I felt really good while I was eating like that. | ||
| But for me, I got tired of constantly worrying about what I was going to put in my body. | ||
| Like, so every meal was a prep. | ||
| I had to do it every single day. | ||
| And everything in our lives is like a... | ||
| It's a celebration, and our celebration is usually centered around food and meat. | ||
| So I got tired of doing that, so I was like, alright, if I die two years earlier... | ||
| Do you really think you're going to, though? | ||
| Do you think it's bad for you to eat meat? | ||
| No, in moderation. | ||
| I think if you just load up on a lot of meat, it can be unhealthy. | ||
| Did you, when you were eating a vegan diet, did you notice performance benefits? | ||
| It's all anecdotal. | ||
| I don't have any, you know, but I felt like I recovered a little faster. | ||
| But again, it's all anecdotal and it could have been all in my head. | ||
| I think just eating a lot of vegetables will do that for you, for sure. | ||
| I mean, whether or not you eat meat at all or fish or anything, I just think it's so beneficial to eat a lot of vegetables. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And one thing I know it did for sure was it cleansed me. | ||
| Like, your bowel movements... | ||
| Be cool! | ||
| Bro, it just slides out. | ||
| Not to get too grotesque, man. | ||
| Too late. | ||
| But it's important, man. | ||
| We all do it. | ||
| You notice a difference and you really understand what a healthy bowel movement is and what a not healthy bowel movement is. | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| If you're just eating cheeseburgers and stuff and you're not getting a lot of vegetables and a lot of fiber, people don't even know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a different... | ||
| Especially if you blend it. | ||
| If you blend kale shakes, it just lubes the whole process up. | ||
| I wasn't big on the blender, man. | ||
| I'm big on it because I can eat way more than I would ever in a salad. | ||
| There's only so much you can eat in a salad, but if I blend that shit up and break it down to 24 ounces of semi-liquid, that's a lot of weight of vegetables. | ||
| It just seems to me that just massive boost of nutrients that enter into your bloodstream and your digestive tract. | ||
| I'm just not as good with the patients. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| What about protein? | ||
| When you were being a vegan, did you use like pea protein or hemp protein? | ||
| Like what kind of protein? | ||
| You got to stay away from hemp because they test for weed. | ||
| They said sometimes. | ||
| I don't want to take the chance. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I'm not well versed on what is and what is not. | ||
| We'll get you some on it shit that doesn't test positive at all. | ||
| I'm done, so I can do whatever I want. | ||
| But I don't know why they would say that, because most, if you get good hemp, well, I guess that's the thing, it's good. | ||
| So they said flax seeds can... | ||
| Can make you test positive? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, poppy seeds can make you test positive for heroin? | ||
| Yeah, poppy seeds too. | ||
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Isn't that crazy? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, people have tested positive on those random drug tests they give people at their jobs from having a poppy seed bagel. | ||
| Yeah, that's what they do. | ||
| Like, Bob, are you shooting heroin? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I just like locks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm eating a fucking bagel sandwich. | ||
| That shit's stupid anyway, like, in the NFL. Like, they need to, um... | ||
| Uh... | ||
| Let guys use weed for pain. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Well, definitely CBDs, for sure, because it's not even psychoactive. | ||
| CBD is just oil that comes from a hemp plant that's not psychoactive. | ||
| It's really good for you, too. | ||
| Super good for inflammation, joint pain, and things along those lines. | ||
| Matter of fact, when I had my... | ||
| Actually, we got some right here. | ||
| This is Charlotte's Web. | ||
| This is actually one of my sponsors now. | ||
| They make hemp oil. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't mean to plug it. | ||
| I'm going to do it. | ||
| It's actually on this podcast. | ||
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I have to do a sponsor about it, but this stuff is great. | |
| And you just take it and it drops? | ||
| It's good for you? | ||
| No negative effects? | ||
| I had my back surgery in 2014. Or 13. What did you have done? | ||
| L5-S1. I had a... | ||
| Dissectomy? | ||
| Yeah, dissectomy. | ||
| They prescribed Percocet. | ||
| Percocet, I used to take them for everything else. | ||
| They used to make me gag and throw up every single time I took them. | ||
| And so, really, any painkiller that would heavily sedate you, I would always, like, throw up. | ||
| And they told me that if you, like, have a gag reflex too much, I could have re-slip my disc. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So, for, like, two days, I was, like, in pain after the surgery, and my dad was like, man, go get some weed, or at least I'm gonna go get you some weed. | ||
| I was like, word, Pop? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's like, yeah, man. | ||
| So he went to them. | ||
| Luckily, I was in LA. I got it in LA. And they had a dispensary. | ||
| And so I got some. | ||
| And it helped immediately. | ||
| And I was like, there's no way that this shouldn't be okay. | ||
| It should totally be legal. | ||
| We're being fucked. | ||
| I mean, slowly but surely, it's starting to become legal recreationally. | ||
| It's legal now in California recreationally. | ||
| But the federal government is still resisting it because of the influence of the pharmaceutical companies and also a bunch of other people that Like the prison guard unions, they don't want it to be legal because they would have less people to arrest. | ||
| It's kind of fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, no, the prison industrial complex. | ||
| It's scary shit. | ||
| It's a real thing, man. | ||
| They're making money off people being in cages. | ||
| It's like people are human batteries, and you get money off of them. | ||
|
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The Matrix. | |
| It is The Matrix. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's like a very low-level version of The Matrix, but it's terrifying that that logic, with all the science that's in place about what's dangerous and what's not, they're prescribing Percocets. | ||
| They're like, here, fella, take these. | ||
| Makes no sense. | ||
| You young strapping buck, why don't you take some shit that might get you hooked? | ||
| They have this waiver we have to sign, so there's this painkiller called Toradol in the NFL, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's awful, but I took it a lot because- They prescribed that shit to my dog. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| My dog got bit. | ||
| So for Toronto, we have to sign this waiver that says you're kind of just giving up. | ||
| We're not responsible for it. | ||
| But they'll let us take that, but they won't let us smoke weed. | ||
| And they're banning dudes that smoke weed, and they're suspending dudes that smoke weed. | ||
| Ricky Williams, right? | ||
| He retired because of that. | ||
| Even just Josh Gordon, he played receiver for the Browns. | ||
| He's one of the best young receivers I've seen in a long time, but they banned him for a year because he tested positive two or three times. | ||
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That's so crazy. | |
| And it's like, you're throwing away, I mean, granted, he needs to be smarter, but you're throwing away an entire man's career because of weed. | ||
| It's not crack, it's not cocaine, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's weed, man. | ||
| But they're kind of trying to send a message to the youth to stay away from the illegal drugs. | ||
| It's Reagan all over again. | ||
| You're trying to rule off of fear. | ||
| It's fear, man. | ||
| It's not based on reality. | ||
| The reality is, if you were to legalize drugs, period, you can regulate it. | ||
| And that way you can do it in a controlled environment, and that way you don't have all of this... | ||
| I mean, that's what they did with the prohibition of alcohol. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Legalize it. | ||
| Well, that's also what they're doing right now with opiate pills. | ||
| I mean, Oxycontins are not illegal. | ||
| They can be prescribed. | ||
| You just have to have a doctor that prescribes it. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It is pretty crazy. | ||
| Well, it's really crazy when people realize that marijuana helps pain relief as much, if not better, than all that stuff. | ||
| And it doesn't have any of the addictive properties. | ||
| And if you do, there have been people that have said that it's addictive, and there's some studies that point to that in certain individuals. | ||
| But I would state that those people are probably addicted to fucking everything. | ||
| I couldn't call it. | ||
| Physically, I don't get how marijuana is addictive. | ||
| It just doesn't make any sense. | ||
| I've smoked pot every day for years, and then I'll take like a month off and nothing. | ||
| Not an ache, not a pain, no shakes, no nothing. | ||
| You just don't have it. | ||
| Drink orange juice, then don't drink orange juice. | ||
| There's really nothing there. | ||
| Nothing happens. | ||
| I don't get it, man. | ||
| I'm not like a heavy smoker like that, but I'm like on a Saturday night when I ain't going nowhere, I'm going to set up my pipe in my sack and I'm going to watch a great movie. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| And fall asleep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with that? | ||
| I don't get it, man. | ||
| And meanwhile, you can get Percocets. | ||
| Or get drunk as hell and ruin your liver. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I had a nose operation. | ||
| I got my deviated septum fixed. | ||
| It's bad, I heard, too. | ||
| Nah, it's nothing. | ||
| They told me it was bad. | ||
| People fucking complain about everything. | ||
| I remember before I got tattooed, people were like, oh my god, tattoos are so painful. | ||
| And the first tattoo, I was like, that's it? | ||
| That's the shit that everybody's complaining about? | ||
| Better than me, man. | ||
| That shit hurts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, I always wonder, right? | ||
| Not saying like, you know, not playing tough guy, but I really wonder what pain feels like to other people. | ||
| I assume that I know what your pain is like, but I don't know if that's true because why do I like certain foods and other people think it tastes like shit? | ||
| Something's got to be different. | ||
| It bothers me too. | ||
| Yeah, it's got to be different. | ||
| Like, your taste buds, it's not just simple, like, oh, I can take it. | ||
| I think people experience different sensations. | ||
| It kills me how people don't like spicy food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I love spicy food. | ||
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Me too. | |
| And it's got that little kick in it. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And it's like, oh, why would I want to burn my mouth? | ||
| I'm like, oh, why wouldn't you? | ||
| Maybe I just like a little bit of pain every now and then. | ||
| Well, it's a kind of a sensation more than it's a pain. | ||
| Spice is a pain. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sorta. | ||
| No, no, no, it is. | ||
| But it doesn't hurt. | ||
| To you? | ||
| But it doesn't hurt. | ||
| Have you ever had a habanero pepper? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Dude, you know what I have in the morning? | ||
| I drink bone broth with habanero sauce in it. | ||
| The fuck? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It's good for you. | ||
| Bone broth is very good for you. | ||
| Is it good or is it good for you? | ||
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Both. | |
| Good and good for you. | ||
| It tastes good. | ||
| Like beef bone broth. | ||
| Bone broth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I put some habanero sauce in there. | ||
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Woo! | |
| See, you deep into that nutrition. | ||
| I couldn't... | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Oh, it's great. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| It's like a delicious tea. | ||
| Like a warm fluid. | ||
| A liquid fluid. | ||
| You gotta sit down and have some bone broth with you one day, man. | ||
| Dude, you would like it. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| I'm hoping, man. | ||
| There's a place down the street, actually, that sells it. | ||
| They sell it. | ||
| California is so crazy. | ||
| What kind of bones? | ||
| Chicken's really good. | ||
| Turkey's good. | ||
| And you can taste it a different kind of bone. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Chicken is probably the best tasting bone broth, Jamie agrees. | ||
| There's a spot in New York I went to called Brodo. | ||
| It's all broth? | ||
| Yeah, they had like a grandma's stew, but it was just like, it tasted like chicken soup, just the water, whereas the broth, whatever. | ||
| They're just boiling bones. | ||
| That shit is brand new. | ||
| I've never even heard of people drinking bones. | ||
| It's pretty recent. | ||
| I mean, not really. | ||
| I mean, people have been doing it for a long time, but it's pretty recent as a fad around here in particular. | ||
| And there's a place out here, I think it's called Sun Life Organics, the joint, that sells bone broth, and they'll add a little hot sauce to it. | ||
| And that's where I got the idea. | ||
| I was like, ooh, I like it. | ||
| And so then I buy bone broth. | ||
| I buy it in bulk, bring it home. | ||
| I have, like, at any given time, I might have 40 bottles of bone broth in my refrigerator. | ||
| That's bananas, yo. | ||
| That shit's crazy. | ||
| I never even... | ||
| It hasn't made its way to Texas yet, man. | ||
| What about bone marrow? | ||
| Did you ever eat bone marrow? | ||
| Nah, I don't. | ||
| No? | ||
| Oh man, bone marrow. | ||
| I've never had a bone before. | ||
| No? | ||
| In any aspect. | ||
| Well, a lot of fancy restaurants, they sell bone marrow. | ||
| And what they're doing is they're taking the femur of the cow, they saw it, and then they slice it down the middle. | ||
| Peter going crazy, right? | ||
| And they cook it, they bake it in the oven, and there's like this gelatinous, fatty substance in the middle that's incredibly nutritious. | ||
| Especially like these days where people are on these real high-fat, ketogenic-based diets are all the rage. | ||
| A lot of people are eating bone marrow. | ||
| Show them some bone marrow, young Jamie. | ||
| Yeah, like that. | ||
| So you get that and a lot of times people see that like with a little toast people like it with toast But you just take the bone marrow with us fork and scoop it out of that that the dark stuff in the center there Scoop it out of there with a fork and just slurp it down. | ||
| I love it, man If it's on the menu, I fucking order it every time I gotta try this man. | ||
| This shit is What about organ meat? | ||
| Do you eat organ meat? | ||
| Like from the state? | ||
| Oh, actual organs. | ||
| Liver, heart, any of that stuff like that? | ||
| I've never ate an organ either, man. | ||
| I'm from the inner city, man, so I'm not that cultured with the palate, man. | ||
| Well, that's not even... | ||
| I mean, when I was a kid, my grandmother used to cook that liver. | ||
| That's country stuff, though, ain't it? | ||
| Yeah, that's country stuff. | ||
| I'm from the city, so it's like... | ||
| I think it's one of those things where poor people ate it initially because they didn't want it to go to waste. | ||
| More wealthy people would eat the finer cuts of meat, like filet mignon. | ||
| You go to a restaurant, I'll have the filet, medium rare. | ||
| But people would shy away from things like liver, and they would think that that's... | ||
| But it's real good for you, man. | ||
| I heard people eating it, and you eat the chitlins too? | ||
| Oh yeah, I'll eat that. | ||
| Jesus Christ, I don't know. | ||
| Do you ever have Menudo? | ||
| No. | ||
| With the tripe in it? | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| There's a joint that's... | ||
| I gotta take you to this place, Jamie. | ||
| There is a legit joint. | ||
| I will never say the address, because INS will show up, and that fucking place will be closed down in a heartbeat. | ||
| There's not a single person in there eating or working there that's legal. | ||
| But it is so... | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It's so Mexican. | ||
| That's menudo. | ||
| Menudo. | ||
| Menudo is... | ||
| They like to have it on Saturday and Sunday. | ||
| I've heard of it. | ||
| What is it, though? | ||
| It's a soup. | ||
| And it's a soup with a bunch of different jazz in it. | ||
| But see that stuff in the middle? | ||
| That's tripe. | ||
| That's all cow stomach. | ||
| That stuff that looks like waffles. | ||
| See, like that? | ||
| That's the interior of a cow's stomach. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| They take that and boil it and chop it up. | ||
| But damn, it is so delicious. | ||
| I know you think, like, I'm not eating that. | ||
| I'm telling you, man. | ||
| It's supposed to be a cure for hangovers. | ||
| That shit looks gross, man. | ||
| I'm not judging the taste. | ||
| I'm saying it looks terrible. | ||
| I'm telling you, if you just try it, it doesn't look gross. | ||
| Yeah, we put the basil on it just to make it pop a little bit. | ||
| I know, they do that, right? | ||
| That always drives me crazy when they put a piece of celery on your plate. | ||
| Am I supposed to eat that celery? | ||
| Garnish. | ||
| Yeah, what's this garnish? | ||
| What is this piece of parsley there? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| See, that might look gross if I never had it, but I've had it so many times, it looks amazing. | ||
| You're experienced with the menudo, man. | ||
| First time I had it was in Boulder. | ||
| There's this joint in Boulder called Papusas. | ||
| It's crazy because it's in Boulder, Colorado. | ||
| What kind of Mexican food are they going to have in Boulder, Colorado? | ||
| They got some Mexicans out there, bro. | ||
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Legit! | |
| They got some Mexicans out there. | ||
| I grew up in Albuquerque, New Mexico, so it's just south of New Mexico. | ||
| To me, New Mexican food is better than Mexican food. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Because it's different. | ||
| It's smothered in the chili that they have out there. | ||
| Green chilies. | ||
| Yeah, they have green chili. | ||
| Hatch green chili is, like, real famous for. | ||
| And so it's, well, see, Colorado and New Mexico have this debate over who started it. | ||
| I don't know who fucking started it, but it's good as hell. | ||
| Well, it's more prevalent in New Mexico, I would think, right? | ||
| I thought that growing up, yeah, but, like, you hear people in Colorado, like, no, Hatch started here. | ||
| And so I was like, man, you got it, whatever. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know, but I mean, green chilies and New Mexico are synonymous. | ||
| That's like one of the things. | ||
| I thought, yeah. | ||
| That's what I grew up on. | ||
| So when I left, I went to high school in San Diego and I left and I ordered something with green chili on it. | ||
| It was not the green chili I was accustomed to, and I was like, what is this? | ||
| Like, I ordered Mexican food, it was like, what I looked at is like Tex-Mex. | ||
| You know, it's just not the same. | ||
| And I was disappointed, to say the least. | ||
| Someone needs to talk to Donald Trump before they kick all these Mexicans out. | ||
| You're gonna fuck up the entire... | ||
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He tripping. | |
| He tripping. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He's tripping. | ||
| But it's scary because you just give these people... | ||
| Look, if you give people the green light to start rating people and catching people when they're dropping their kids off at school, which is some of the stuff that I've been seeing in the news, I don't know how much of it is happening or what's happening, but you're making it dangerous for people to get an education. | ||
| You're making it dangerous for kids to get educated. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The shit that gets me, man, is like the majority of Trump supporters are... | ||
| Like Christians, right? | ||
| And if you look at Jesus' main message is like, love thy neighbor, and Mexico is our neighbor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't understand the disdain. | ||
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Well, I love them if they do the right thing and they take their paperwork and come over here the right way, the way my granddaddy did. | |
| Your granddaddy got on a raft, you piece of shit. | ||
| You know, the granddaddy. | ||
| Anybody who came over the Mayflower didn't have any fucking paperwork. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But for some reason, none of those facts matter to those people. | ||
| I don't understand that, man. | ||
| All that turn-the-other-cheek shit? | ||
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No, that's some faggot shit that Jesus wrote about back in the day before they understood what faggot shit was. | |
| People get mad whenever somebody said, how come every time you talk about Trump supporters use a shitty Southern accent? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
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Maybe because you get upset. | |
| Maybe I'm going to keep doing it now. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| It's a weird time, man. | ||
| It's a real weird time. | ||
| I have some weird ideas about nationalism and boundaries and stuff like that, because I think that America is more of an idea than it is a place. | ||
| I think America as an idea is a great idea. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| I think it's amazing to have this one place where there's probably more creativity and more innovation in this country, more music and art, more fascinating things happening in this country than almost any other country. | ||
| I mean, there's great things happening everywhere. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| But I mean, this is a hotbed of creativity and innovation and art. | ||
| And I think that's what makes me proud, like, to be an American. | ||
| If I was proud, I'd be proud of, like, all the people that came before, all the people that were here, all the, you know, all the Neil deGrasse Tyson's and Jimi Hendrix and all the fucking, you know, Lenny Bruce and Richard Pryor and all the art and comedy and writing and history and all the science and mathematics and all the great shit that's been accomplished in this one area. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's not a It's not like a line in the sand. | ||
| To me, it's more like an idea. | ||
| So to me, the idea has always been about people come here because they want to do better. | ||
| So you're trying to stop people from doing better. | ||
| And they're like, well, they got to fill out their paperwork and they got to do it right the way our grandparents did. | ||
| No, our grandparents didn't do it that way. | ||
| It was easy to come over here back when my grandparents came over. | ||
| My grandparents came over on a boat. | ||
| They came over from Italy and they just got on a boat. | ||
| It was fucking easy. | ||
| They got to Ellis Island, signed here. | ||
| All right, everybody's good. | ||
| Go to work. | ||
| But now, you know, you say you've got to make it harder for people to come across, but it's almost impossible. | ||
| If you want to immigrate from Mexico, if you're a poor person and you want to immigrate here from Mexico, good fucking luck. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| It is not easy. | ||
| It's not easy to come here from fucking Canada. | ||
| I've had friends that have tried to come here from Canada. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Try to get a green card or try to become a citizen. | ||
| Holy shit is it hard. | ||
| It's a massive process. | ||
| Like, I have a friend, a good friend of mine, and his daughter met a guy in Colorado, and she came down here, she's got a new boyfriend, like, I'll stay with you in Colorado. | ||
| She can't work, because she's from Canada. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Because, you know, I guess they just assume, like, oh, you're from that patch of dirt, you're not allowed to work over in this patch of dirt. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand that shit, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| She's a normal, she's not a terrorist. | ||
| She's educated. | ||
| She's smart. | ||
| She talks well. | ||
| Why can't she just work like everybody else could work? | ||
| Can't even work at Jamba Juice? | ||
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Nope. | |
| It's paranoia, man. | ||
| It's like people just are afraid of everything. | ||
| And granted, they're all real threats. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But it's like, I just don't believe in living in that fear. | ||
| No, it's not just fear. | ||
| It's a constant state of hypnosis. | ||
| It's nationalism. | ||
| And it's a team mentality, but not a team mentality in a positive sense, and a team mentality in an exclusionary sense. | ||
| Like, you're excluding all these other people from joining the team. | ||
| Like, well, if they all come over here, then they're gonna ruin our quality of life. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I've always said, man, nationalism is... | ||
| It's one of the worst things, actually. | ||
| I don't like it at all. | ||
| I'm super proud. | ||
| I love America. | ||
| This is a dope place to be. | ||
| But, like, I'm not... | ||
| I'm not like, oh, fuck your country over my country. | ||
| That never hit me. | ||
| My pride isn't like that. | ||
| My pride is just like, it's dope to be from here, and I enjoy it here. | ||
| But I don't have any disdain towards any other country. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| Well, you know what fucks me up? | ||
| It's that team mentality. | ||
| You could break it down to the macro level. | ||
| Because people in Houston don't like people from Dallas. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like, it gets goofy. | ||
| I mean, Dallas and Houston might as well be Mexico in America. | ||
| I mean, it really might as well be. | ||
| It's big, though. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| You're from Houston, right? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I live there now. | ||
| Dude, Houston and Dallas might as well be in a fucking civil war if you talk to half the people. | ||
| They don't fight. | ||
| You're like, oh, you're from Dallas, motherfucker. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| It's not like you want to fight. | ||
| But if you tell people that you live in Houston or you love Houston, they're from Dallas. | ||
| Fuck Houston. | ||
| They get weird. | ||
| And Austin is kind of like the middle ground. | ||
| Austin's like, hey man, everybody's kind of cool. | ||
| Everybody just relax, man. | ||
| Austin's like the hippie brother that tries to, hey guys, don't fight. | ||
| Let's just be cool here. | ||
| We're all from Texas. | ||
| And then you got weird spots that are like, Odessa, you might as well be Mexican. | ||
| You're in Odessa, you're trying to pretend you're not Mexican? | ||
| I've never made it out to any of the small parts of Texas. | ||
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It's right there! | |
| It's on the border! | ||
| I've had a friend of mine who lived on across, what is directly across from Juarez? | ||
| El Paso. | ||
| They said that one of the buildings that he was at got shot, like got hit with a bullet from someone involved in gang warfare on the other side of the border. | ||
| They were so close to Juarez that a bullet from Juarez hit one of the buildings he was in. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
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Well, that's another reason right there, you dumb fuck, that we gotta keep them out of our country. | |
| Please. | ||
| It's so funny arguing people. | ||
| They just have talking points, and they don't ever think about anything. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| You can have talking points, and you can have points, and their points are okay. | ||
| They're not okay. | ||
| It's to be discussed and debated, but when people get these rock-solid opinions on certain things... | ||
| Well, that's the problem. | ||
| Nobody has rock-solid opinions because usually their beliefs aren't based on any kind of foundation, any research. | ||
| It's all based on somebody that says something... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Usually on podcasts or television that they agree with and all of a sudden your opinion becomes a fact. | ||
| Some Sean Hannity type shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've never really watched Sean, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, it's one thing if they weren't human. | ||
| Like if you had some Neanderthals that lived in Mexico and they were dangerous and they liked to eat people. | ||
| You're like, look, we got a fucking real problem. | ||
| Neanderthals coming over here eating us. | ||
| But no, they're just folks. | ||
| They're just folks. | ||
| People dehumanize people all the time. | ||
| Honestly, I saw it in my sport, and you see it, I mean, in every aspect of life. | ||
| Yeah, well, how about Israel and Palestine? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, that is the craziest shit ever. | ||
| I was watching this documentary on the history of Israel and Palestine. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Because I've been looking for one. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I'm so trying to... | ||
| There's quite a few of them out there. | ||
| I need to find one. | ||
| I don't think a documentary, honestly, is comprehensive enough. | ||
| I'd like to find a good book. | ||
| I've read up on it, and it just gets deeper and deeper and deeper. | ||
| It's almost impossible to unravel. | ||
| Because, like, these people have been at each other. | ||
| Like, Israel is this one strange area, right? | ||
| Because you have this Jewish state that's surrounded virtually on all sides by Arab states. | ||
| And they hate Israel and then Israel hates them and they're trying to push people out and then the Palestinians are claiming that this is their land and they were pushed out. | ||
| I used to do this bit and people used to get so fucking mad at me. | ||
| They used to get so mad at me because I said that I was watching TV and I was watching this thing about the Palestinians versus the Israelis and I go, there's a brown skinned guy with dark curly hair throwing rocks at a brown skinned guy with dark curly hair holding a machine gun. | ||
| I'm like, you guys look Super fucking similar. | ||
| I go, this is like watching a tennis match between the Williams sisters. | ||
| I mean, this isn't like the Africans versus the Nordic people. | ||
| Like, you could clearly tell. | ||
| Like, if you see an African person and you see someone from China, okay, I see you guys look real different. | ||
| Yeah, but like, Israelis and Palestinians, they're fucking so close until they talk. | ||
| But you say that to people, they get so mad at you. | ||
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We are very different. | |
| Okay. | ||
| I can't really... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think there's a difference, man. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| But it's similar enough that they could pass for each other. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| I think that's debatable, man. | ||
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Debatable? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| From what I said, we got the... | ||
| I don't think we're going to figure it out. | ||
| Yeah, that would be typecast. | ||
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We'd have to actually go over there and take pictures, weigh people. | |
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
| Get on the scale. | ||
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Turns out the Powell Studios are one pound heavier on average, you know? | |
| It's just fucked up when you see that kind of a dispute that you don't think is ever going to get settled inside your lifetime. | ||
| Nah, it won't. | ||
| No, it definitely wouldn't be in our time. | ||
| Like, it's a state that was established in the 1940s. | ||
| It's still there today, and it's still hotly under debate, and you're wondering, like... | ||
| See, that's what I'm so confused about. | ||
| And it's such a hot-button issue, too, because it's like, as soon as you bring it up, you're like, hey, you know what I mean? | ||
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Right. | |
| And I'm just... | ||
| It's an honest inquiry, right? | ||
| Because I don't really know enough about it, so I'm trying to read up on it. | ||
| And it seems to me super... | ||
| There's a little red flag that raises to me. | ||
| During this last Republican, before Trump was president, one of the last Republican debates where all of them were on the panel, they were just like, I'm super pro-Israel. | ||
| I'm so pro-Israel. | ||
| I'm pro-Israel, too. | ||
| And I'm just like, why are you so pro-Israel? | ||
| It just made me think. | ||
| And that's what made me start digging into it. | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| I mean, usually, I don't agree with a lot of what the Republicans say, and so it just makes me think, what is the underlying issue here? | ||
| Well, that's Christianity. | ||
| That's a big thing, because the pro-Israel people, the really heavy-duty evangelical Christians, they really, truly believe that inside their lifetime, Jesus is going to return, and he's going to return to Israel. | ||
| So that's... | ||
| They think he's coming back to Israel. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's a Vice documentary on it. | ||
| So that's why we... | ||
| I mean, it's probably deeper than that. | ||
| It's probably deeper than that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's our lone ally that's non-Muslim in that area. | ||
| How do they become our ally? | ||
| Because we arm the fuck out of them. | ||
| I know, but there had to be a reason though, right? | ||
| Well, I think, you know, we see the way they live, their lifestyle. | ||
| I mean, there's very many reasons. | ||
| I'm simplifying it, but it's much closer to ours than these Arab states. | ||
| I mean, women in Israel, first of all, they have all the rights that women in America do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm pretty sure, other than the fact they have to go to the army. | ||
| They have mandatory army service, which a lot of people think would be a good thing for America. | ||
| Mandatory military service, because it would make you understand about sacrifice and discipline, and also that you're a part of this thing. | ||
| Instead of saying, you know, we should go over there and kick their ass. | ||
| Like, who's we? | ||
| Are you doing that? | ||
| Are you going to send your kids? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I think we'd have way fewer interactions with other countries if everybody's kids had to go over there and do it. | ||
| If it wasn't a voluntary thing, if it was an involuntary thing, we'd be much more judicious in our use of military. | ||
| That's when you brought up that dehumanizing thing. | ||
| To me, when people bring up war and stuff like that, they just throw out these numbers like those weren't humans that died. | ||
| That shit boggles my mind. | ||
| If that was your mother or your father's sister, maybe people do feel like he gave his life to a cause, but for me, it's like, man, at the end of the day, y'all fighting for dirt nobody owns. | ||
| You can't take it with you in your box. | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| Well, not only that, there's these impossible-to-fix parts of the world. | ||
| If you look at... | ||
| What's going on right now in Syria? | ||
| How many people are gonna have to die before they figure out that part of the world? | ||
| I mean, that seems like if you were there, you would just want to get the fuck out of there as quickly as possible. | ||
| Because everybody could die at any moment there. | ||
| At any moment, Anything could happen. | ||
| Missiles are slamming into apartment buildings. | ||
| It's like, you just gotta get the fuck out. | ||
| And that can happen in this world. | ||
| Like, the world... | ||
| Conflicts can escalate to the point where they're just nonsensical. | ||
| Where you can't make any sense of it. | ||
| You just gotta get the fuck out. | ||
| Like, if you were living right now in Syria... | ||
| I mean, you would say, you know, part of me wants to fight for this. | ||
| This is my city. | ||
| This is my country. | ||
| This is where I'm from. | ||
| And part of you is like, fuck this. | ||
| Let's go to Greece. | ||
| Why don't we go to Germany? | ||
| I don't got that in me, man. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| Like, my pride runs from my inner circle of my family to my community. | ||
| And after that, it's like, what are we fighting for? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Unless you're like stepping in my home base, I don't understand the point, man. | ||
| I don't got that in me. | ||
| Well, when you get to something like World War II, right? | ||
| When you get to something like the Nazis are trying to take over the world. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Pushing into Poland. | ||
| You go, okay, we got a real problem here. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| This crazy fuck might really... | ||
| Like, what's going on in North Korea? | ||
| North Korea scares the shit out of me. | ||
| See, and that's what I don't understand. | ||
| So you got a juggernaut country like that who's basically waving a flag saying, I don't fuck with you. | ||
| I'm arming myself and we don't really do anything. | ||
| We don't really... | ||
| Well, the problem is they do do things. | ||
| We do? | ||
| No, they. | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| We don't do... | ||
| To them, you mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we're looking at them now. | ||
| I mean, there was apparently... | ||
| This is all... | ||
| Rumor and who knows what was really said, but apparently that's the main thing that Donald Trump was informed about when Obama left office, one of the things Obama said, like, this is the biggest issue. | ||
| It's North Korea. | ||
| He's a maniac. | ||
| That Kim Jong-un is a fucking murderous maniac, and he's running a military dictatorship. | ||
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For sure. | |
| And he's got prison camps and they've got these people that are born in prison. | ||
| They're born prisoners. | ||
| They're slaves. | ||
| And they kill them. | ||
| They do whatever the fuck they want to them. | ||
| If you don't listen to those people, if you don't listen to the military, they can kill you. | ||
| You have no rights. | ||
| I mean, people were put in jail because they didn't mourn hard enough for the death of his father. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| They were given jail sentences. | ||
| Hard labor. | ||
| Because they didn't cry hard enough. | ||
| We played it recently. | ||
| There was these people. | ||
| It's like the worst acting you've ever seen. | ||
| The people on the street when Kim Jong-il died. | ||
| And they were just wailing. | ||
| Just falling down. | ||
| They couldn't cry hard enough. | ||
| And they had to do it. | ||
| They had to do it publicly. | ||
| It was so nuts. | ||
| See, that's what I need to do, man. | ||
| I'm pretty up on my domestic politics. | ||
| I'm kind of out of the loop on foreign policy. | ||
| I'm out of the loop on everything. | ||
| I just talk shit. | ||
| I watch a few YouTube videos. | ||
| I read a few articles. | ||
| Occasionally, a book crosses my eyes. | ||
| I'll read that. | ||
| It's good to know, man. | ||
| Most of the time, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. | ||
| It's too much to know. | ||
| That's true, man. | ||
| That's definitely true, man. | ||
| If I really sat down with someone who's a real, true expert on foreign policy, you know what you really get? | ||
| You really get a guy who knows a lot about one area. | ||
| If a real expert on foreign policy, say if you were talking to someone who's an expert on China, like international relationship with China, The international relationship with China is probably super complex. | ||
| There's probably so much to know and so much to understand and so much to go over. | ||
| For you to be a real expert, How could you fucking know all that? | ||
| How could you possibly know all that? | ||
| That's one of my problems. | ||
| Once I want to learn something, I've got to learn everything about it. | ||
| I learn conceptually. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| It's bad, though, because I have a one-track mind, so it'll consume me for three months, though. | ||
| That's good! | ||
| That's how people get good at things, though. | ||
| That's probably why you were a great football player. | ||
| It's probably the same thing. | ||
| I mean, that's obsession. | ||
| Yeah, it becomes obsessive, yeah. | ||
| But I feel like that's the case with anybody who gets really good at things. | ||
| You get just completely nuts about it, and you get absorbed with it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Because if you're just casual about it, but the dude next to you is obsessed with it, he's going to get better at it. | ||
| He's going to get better. | ||
| You know, there's just no doubt about it. | ||
| There's no way around it, man. | ||
| You know, I remember when I was training in jujitsu, like heavily, I would still, you know, I still had jobs and stuff. | ||
| You know, I was busy, but I would meet these young kids who were like 17 and 18. They'd be training two times a day and lifting weights as well and just constantly going over new moves. | ||
| And I was like, this dude, there's no way I'm catching up to that guy. | ||
| When you have that real, true passion and obsession, that's the only way to hit real excellence. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I always tell kids, like, man, they'll tell me, like, you know, I want to do this, I want to be a this, I want to be a this, and I'm just like, you have no idea the discipline it takes in order to be the best at your craft. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, people don't understand that shit. | ||
| Like, people look at, like, we kind of take for granted the top of the top of the top of anything, really, right? | ||
| We take that shit for granted because you're looking at a finished product and you don't see the story behind it until it hits the It hits the show that you love watching. | ||
| The people who are the best at what they do have been doing it for... | ||
| A great example is comedy, right? | ||
| This pisses me off when people say overnight sensation about a comic, right? | ||
| But then you dig into their background and they've been working on for like 18, 20 years they've been doing gigs or they've been going on shows and they've been just kind of harnessing their craft and all of a sudden, boom, they blow up and people are like, oh, overnight sensation, bullshit. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| Well, comedy looks so easy. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Because you're just talking. | ||
| Like you're talking right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just do it in front of a microphone. | ||
| Say funny shit. | ||
| You know how to talk. | ||
| Make a bicycle climb. | ||
| I mean, in a lot of ways, it's gotta be kind of like running. | ||
| Like, oh, what is he, a running back? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I can run. | ||
| Oh, yeah, he's gotta catch the ball, too. | ||
| I catch the ball. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bro, I'm gonna be the greatest ever. | ||
| I'm the best at running. | ||
| How are you the best? | ||
| I just am, man. | ||
| I just am. | ||
| My mentality. | ||
| I know how to do it, man. | ||
| I know how to catch that ball and run. | ||
| Man, this last two or three months, I've been going to the Laugh Factory and a lot of comedy stores and stuff, or comedy venues, and I just have a whole new respect for comedians. | ||
| That shit is so hard, man. | ||
| It's like you go to a venue and people are just sitting in their chair like, yo... | ||
| Make me laugh. | ||
| It's the weirdest shit ever, and you guys do it. | ||
| I got so much respect for comedians. | ||
| It's a weird gig. | ||
| Well, now we do it, we chuck out our material every two years. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's where I'm at right now. | ||
| I'm like four months in. | ||
| That's hard, dude. | ||
| I'm working on shit that's like, a lot of it's on rubber legs. | ||
| It's not super solid yet. | ||
| Some of it's solid. | ||
| I always want to ask, so what's the process? | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| Do you think of jokes, like, do you sit down and, I mean, I'm totally ignorant to this, so, like, do you sit down and you be like, alright, I'm gonna write funny shit today for, like, an hour? | ||
| Or, like, just randomly go throughout your day and... | ||
| This is a process. | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| That's funny, man. | ||
| That's the main process. | ||
| Man, I'll be talking about some... | ||
| Go ahead, talk about some crazy shit. | ||
| That's the main process. | ||
| No, that's part of the process. | ||
| The other part of the process is sitting down. | ||
| Maybe sitting down thinking about things. | ||
| Sometimes I watch a documentary to watch a documentary and sometimes I watch it because I go, I bet there's some material... | ||
| In this subject, and then sometimes I'll just sit right in front of my computer, or sometimes I'll sit with a pen and a piece of paper. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Or sometimes I'm just in my car, and an idea... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| One of the things that gets me, it's tough to do because I like to listen to shit when I'm in my car, but I find out when I don't listen to shit, when I just have the sound off, no radio, I come up with ideas, because my mind is forced to think. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And then I'll write those ideas down. | ||
| And then once you write those ideas down... | ||
| Any idea that you write down is like a seed. | ||
| And then you try to water that seed. | ||
| And you try to get it to grow into something that's viable. | ||
| And half of them don't ever grow. | ||
| At least. | ||
| If you're lucky, half of them grow. | ||
| That's tough, man. | ||
| I tried it just to write some jokes. | ||
| Just be like, let me see what these people go through. | ||
| And it's just like... | ||
| You don't even know where to start. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, it's just a matter of starting. | ||
| Like, knowing where to start is hard. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the key is to really just start. | ||
| And then once you start, then you sort of chop it down. | ||
| Like, you start, you write a bunch of shit down, you go, oh, there's nonsense, but maybe there's something right there. | ||
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Right. | |
| And you take that little piece of it, and then I'll put that, I'll copy and paste that on another thing. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And then I'll start from scratch. | ||
| So, like, I might write 1,500, 2,000 words, and then out of those words is a paragraph. | ||
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Right. | |
| Maybe there's something in that paragraph. | ||
| And then I'll pull that paragraph, throw it on somewhere else, and then maybe I'll go back over that other 2,000 words that I didn't, you know, take, and I'll do it with fresh eyes, like, the next day. | ||
| And maybe a new thought. | ||
| It's that process that we don't see that, like, I just have super respect for, man. | ||
| It's a... | ||
| It's a fun job, though, man. | ||
| Like, look, dude, I've been doing it for, like, almost 30 years. | ||
| You can't play football for almost 30 years. | ||
| You get fucked up. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like nothing... | ||
| I'm so glad about that. | ||
| Your mind gets a little fucked up. | ||
| Your mind can get fucked up. | ||
| Your mind gets fucked up when things aren't going well. | ||
| It's always... | ||
| It's... | ||
| It's so intriguing to me how comedians are really kind of like the narrators of our society. | ||
| And they kind of just... | ||
| They find a way, dog, to explain the shit that's normal to everybody and to look at it and say, how silly is this shit? | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| And that's why I love comedy. | ||
| Comedy is such an art to me, man. | ||
| So you're thinking about doing it? | ||
| I want to do it just like as a bucket list thing, just to try it. | ||
| I'm not trying to be like a touring. | ||
| I just want to like, you know, I'm a tyrant, man. | ||
| So I'm just like, I'm looking at shit that's interesting to me. | ||
| I'm just like, I'm going to try it, man. | ||
| This comedians, they get real upset about that kind of shit. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They go, these guys think they could do what we do? | ||
| No, I don't, but that's what I'm gonna try. | ||
| I don't feel like that at all. | ||
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Okay, cool. | |
| My feeling is totally the opposite. | ||
| My feeling is you could. | ||
| You definitely could. | ||
| You can definitely do it. | ||
| I appreciate the boat. | ||
| You're a smart guy. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| You're funny. | ||
| I think you could do it. | ||
| I think anybody could do it if you're funny. | ||
| If you're smart and you're funny and you're honest, everybody starts from a different spot. | ||
| There's some people that are just naturally funny. | ||
| I've met some people, like my friend Eddie Bravo. | ||
| I tried to talk him into doing stand-up. | ||
| He did it a bunch of times back in the day, but he's just naturally funny. | ||
| He just says funny shit. | ||
| He sees funny shit. | ||
| And I was like, dude, you're a comedian. | ||
| You just never did it. | ||
| You could be hilarious. | ||
| Because he'll fucking have us cry in some nights. | ||
| Just ridiculous shit. | ||
| But it's a matter of starting off with one step, and then you learn how to walk, and then you learn how to run, and then you've got to learn how to run better, and then you've got to figure out the moves. | ||
| I mean, there's a whole path to it. | ||
| It's whether or not you're willing to take that path. | ||
| That path might take 10 years. | ||
| That's what everybody says. | ||
| You'll have good sets before those 10 years. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It's not like 10 years in, finally I got a laugh. | ||
| No, I got laughs all along the way. | ||
| But I sucked. | ||
| You know, definitely. | ||
| Kinda take you a while to find out who you are as a comic. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| And then that's the other thing, though. | ||
| You do a special. | ||
| I just did my last Netflix special. | ||
| Bro, that shit was so comedy. | ||
| Oh, thanks, man. | ||
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Glad you liked it. | |
| The dolphin. | ||
| Oh, my God, dog. | ||
| That's a true story. | ||
| I fell out, man. | ||
| That's a true story. | ||
| I was so high. | ||
| I was watching those dolphins. | ||
| I'm like, how come nobody ever catches dolphins on a fishhook? | ||
| It's like, how fucking smart are they, man? | ||
| What if they're like little water people? | ||
| That really made me think. | ||
| That bit was genius, man. | ||
| Oh, thank you. | ||
| That is really something that I really thought about. | ||
| I wrote a blog about it way back in the day. | ||
| I think it's called Hello Stranger. | ||
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All right. | |
| About that very subject. | ||
| That's why I love comedy, man. | ||
| It's like, y'all... | ||
| You find a way to, like, encapsulate the weirdest and most brilliant thoughts that we have. | ||
| We try, but the problem is once you do one every two years, one of the things that happens is you run out of shit to talk about. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Or you don't have necessarily anything to talk about. | ||
| But what I like to do then, when I feel, like, stagnant, is I like to not do anything. | ||
| Just let my brain, like, reach its balance. | ||
| Just come back. | ||
| You ever just went on stage with no mystery and just winged it? | ||
| Only on these shows that we do. | ||
| We have these shows called Stand Up on the Spot. | ||
| My friend Jeremiah Watkins put on this show where you actually wing it to the audience's suggestion. | ||
| So the audience will yell out, like, Bush's paintings! | ||
| Because, you know, George Bush paints now. | ||
| You ever seen his paintings? | ||
| I have not seen his paintings. | ||
| Is he nice, though? | ||
| Some of them are weird. | ||
| Yeah, not bad. | ||
| Better than me. | ||
| That's dope, man. | ||
| I mean, I can't paint. | ||
| I give anybody a chance, man. | ||
| I don't judge, though. | ||
| I don't judge criminals. | ||
| It's whatever. | ||
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I can separate, man. | |
| You kind of have to, right? | ||
| You have to, man. | ||
| I was trying to explain that to somebody about Bill Cosby, and I was like, it's a very complex situation because, yes, he most likely did those things that they're accusing him of. | ||
| It's pretty. | ||
| It's pretty likely. | ||
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It's pretty likely. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I wasn't there, but it seems highly unlikely that that many people... | ||
| And there was always that rumor. | ||
| There was always that rumor. | ||
| But... | ||
| He also was a brilliant comedian. | ||
| He was? | ||
| He was a rapist. | ||
| But he was a brilliant comedian. | ||
| Alleged rapist. | ||
| Pardon me. | ||
| Like OJ, right? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| He's a fucking murderer, man, but like... | ||
| Dude could play. | ||
| That was nice. | ||
| The juice was nice, man. | ||
| But I don't understand how people can't separate your performance from who you are as a human. | ||
| I never understood that. | ||
| Did you see the recent thing where his doctor said that if the understanding of CTE was available back then, they might have used that as a defense? | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, what's really crazy is that doctor is essentially saying that OJ did it, even though he was acquitted. | ||
| Yeah, he ain't in jail for that, man. | ||
| He's in jail for stealing his shit. | ||
| I know, isn't that funny? | ||
| He might get out soon. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| He is, though. | ||
| I thought it was, like, December. | ||
| I think he has an opportunity, I think, in October. | ||
| But I think it's one of those things, like a parole thing. | ||
| Because I think he's in jail for 25 years. | ||
| But I think he's been in jail for nine, and he might get released. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| It says October. | ||
| But here's the thing, man. | ||
| You kind of know that they're not really jailing him for that. | ||
| They're not really jailing him for that. | ||
| Which is weird, man. | ||
| He was trying to get back his stuff, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If people don't know the story, OJ, I believe someone had stolen some of his autographed merchandise, his memorabilia, and he was trying to get it back, and someone in the room with him had a gun. | ||
| Like, the guy he went with... | ||
| They held him hostage. | ||
| Did they pull the gun out? | ||
| I think they had it out, but I think what it was was they went into the room with the people and locked the door and said nobody's leaving, which is like a kidnapping charge. | ||
| You can't kidnap people, man. | ||
| That's crazy, though, that we're supposed to believe that that's what kept him in jail for nine years. | ||
| Well, no, you definitely know. | ||
| If you watch the judge's deliberation when he was going to jail him, you could tell. | ||
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It was like, you deserve this. | |
| We're just throwing the book at you. | ||
| If that was your first offense, you might not even be in jail. | ||
| Yeah, I kind of believe they're not going to give him parole on that. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I just gotta believe. | ||
| That whole thing was so weird to me, man. | ||
| There was a woman who was in the Manson family who was one of the people that murdered Sharon Tate. | ||
| And she was up for parole recently. | ||
| And they were talking to her and they were asking her why she did it and how she did it. | ||
| And she just sort of explained that You know, she was a part of this cult and that they had really kind of like convinced her that this was the way to do it and This is the way to live. | ||
| We have to fight these people and they're all on acid They're all fucking freaking out and she was trying to explain it and they're like, yeah, no parole Explaining how she stabbed her and the woman was pregnant too. | ||
| She stabbed the baby and It's just crazy that some people go to jail for life, for stupid shit, like smoking pot. | ||
| Like, there's people that are in jail for selling pot, and they're in jail with life sentences. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It must have. | ||
| I mean, I guarantee you people have died in jail for marijuana sales. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| Guaranteed. | ||
| Guaranteed. | ||
| But it's still sort of kind of possible that if you kill somebody, you could get out early. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, it depends on who you are, actually. | ||
| Oh, it must. | ||
| It does, man. | ||
| It also depends on the overcrowding of the state, right? | ||
| Someone was telling me that Louisiana, in particular, during Katrina, when New Orleans was getting flooded, my friend was like, dude, they had what they would call misdemeanor murder. | ||
| As a joke, because dudes would be murdering guys, and they'd be out in really short sentences. | ||
| Yeah, I heard about that. | ||
| See if you can pull up that term, misdemeanor murder, New Orleans. | ||
| Because this guy was joking around about it, and I never looked into it deep enough to know whether or not he was telling the truth, but I'd heard it more than once. | ||
| They were just letting people out. | ||
| Murderers. | ||
| Yeah, I think. | ||
| Yeah, New Orleans. | ||
| Often accused of institutionalized misdemeanor murder. | ||
| Article 701 of the Criminal Code requires the state release a defendant who has not been charged with the crime after 60 days. | ||
| Before Hurricane Katrina, a few hundred people per year were released under Article 701. So someone would commit a murder, they wouldn't be charged inside of 60 days because they're probably overburdened and they would let someone out. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| And it's there, the big easy to get away with murder? | ||
| A Metafiller article? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, so, some spots. | ||
| It's just so fucking chaotic that you can get away with it. | ||
| Well, the problem is you got people in jail for these, uh, in prison for these petty offenses. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like drugs. | ||
| Well, for violating our rules. | ||
| That's ridiculous, man. | ||
| We have too many rules, you know? | ||
| If that many people are in jail for violating rules, does that necessarily mean that many people should be in jail, or does it mean we have too many rules? | ||
| You gotta figure out, like, is someone a victim of these situations? | ||
| As soon as someone's a victim, then that's probably where we should serve and protect, right? | ||
| I don't understand how people view our laws as the gospel. | ||
| I mean, certain things obviously are demonstrably bad for society, but some shit, like, this is such a... | ||
| There are things that could be amended that just need to be, man. | ||
| What would you change if you could get into the judicial system? | ||
| The drugs. | ||
| There's no way that they should be... | ||
| First, right? | ||
| That's one of the big ones. | ||
| I think that's the first one. | ||
| That's one of the big ones. | ||
| What else? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I'd have to deliberate on that one. | ||
| I mean, the prison industrial complex as far as locking up people of color has been a problem in our communities for years. | ||
| I think that the policing needs to change. | ||
| I think that, and I think if you're gonna look at other, I mean, we just got done talking about this yesterday, but I think if you're gonna look at other parts of the world saying they need our help, places like Afghanistan, places where we've sent massive amounts of troops and resources into, Iraq in particular, right? | ||
| I think if they put that amount of money to figuring out how to build back these impoverished communities, instead of just leaving them the way they are. | ||
| Yeah, that's bad. | ||
| Figure out some way. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck it is. | ||
| Because you'd have to go through a couple of generations to get rid of the cycle of the negativity that some of these people have experienced growing up with all the crime and all the violence. | ||
| The crime follows poverty all the time. | ||
| Yeah, it's right there together. | ||
| And then also the momentum of that crime and poverty, it's hard to break loose of. | ||
| And it doesn't help by putting them in jail. | ||
| Most of the time it becomes worse. | ||
| It becomes a mentality. | ||
| What I always found significant growing up in the inner city is that violence is so normalized. | ||
| Being tough on the streets was The good thing to be growing up. | ||
| So if you heard of somebody committing murders or beating up people or whatever, and this is fucked up, but that mentality reverberates through some of the neighborhoods. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| That's what you wanted to be. | ||
| You don't want to kill people, but you wanted to have that tough label. | ||
| And that mentality and that psyche, it's infectious. | ||
| And you see it with music and entertainment. | ||
| It's something that's embedded in our culture. | ||
| It started way back then, but it's still here. | ||
| And it seems like it ramped up when it became a big part of popular rap culture. | ||
| When I was a kid, there was not... | ||
| You didn't hear about nearly as much gang violence as we did after... | ||
| N.W.A. came out? | ||
| When you started hearing rap music with a lot of violence in it? | ||
| They were the originators of that, for sure. | ||
| But the violence in the neighborhoods, it really didn't start with the rap era. | ||
| It started with the crack era, which the rap era came out of the crack era. | ||
| So it all came together. | ||
| Yeah, that's a really good point, actually. | ||
| And you know what else is a really good point, too? | ||
| Is that that all of a sudden, it glorified it and it made a lot of wannabes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And, I mean, it's unfortunate, but that's why I love art. | ||
| Art is always a reflection. | ||
| It's a mirror of society, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Unless you go to that LACMA place. | ||
| You ever go to that? | ||
| LA County Museum of Art? | ||
| Never seen that one. | ||
| Don't go. | ||
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No. | |
| Appreciate that. | ||
| It's one of the modern places where they have like a box on the ground. | ||
| There's like a plexiglass box. | ||
| I go, what is that? | ||
| That's the actual art? | ||
| The plexiglass box? | ||
| The box represents what you want it to be. | ||
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So the art is that you look down at the box. | |
| It's really brilliant, actually, when you think about it that way, because the box... | ||
| That's real. | ||
| That's real, man. | ||
| That's a fucking box. | ||
| It's a box that's on the ground. | ||
| You know what that is? | ||
| That's a dude who you buy weed off of. | ||
| That's his coffee table. | ||
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Right? | |
| You go over his house. | ||
| He's like, hey, man, I love this fucking amber plastic coffee table you got, bro. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| I fucking chopped my buds up on this bed. | ||
| It is a nice tent, though. | ||
| Yeah, it's not bad. | ||
| But the fact that it was roped off and that it was an actual piece of exhibit, that's a piece of art. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I would never forget. | ||
| It looks like a- Just fuck you. | ||
| That Jurassic Park or a mosquito. | ||
| No. | ||
| Someone has to say no. | ||
| That's funded. | ||
| That's funded. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's like, isn't it? | ||
| Like, who funds that? | ||
| Who funds- Isn't that like a big part of it is public? | ||
| It's the LA County Museum of National Art. | ||
| Oh, that's amazing because what it represents is spaghetti and we all like spaghetti. | ||
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You don't fuck with that? | |
| That's cool. | ||
| It makes you think about your childhood. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You don't like that. | ||
| You like string hanging from the ceiling? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, you know what it reminds me of? | ||
| You don't like string hanging from the side. | ||
| Back when I was a kid, when you had to rent porn, you had to go through beads to get to the porno section of the video store. | ||
| That wasn't my era, man. | ||
| I'm way older than you, man. | ||
| I was there when it all went down. | ||
| But see, a lot of black moms and grandmas have the beads. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Hippies have the beads, too. | ||
| Mexican mothers, too. | ||
| Why is there a rock there? | ||
| Is that an art piece? | ||
| Is that the LA LACMA thing? | ||
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Well, that's a rock, and it represents rocks. | |
| But you gotta appreciate how they got the rock there. | ||
| No, I don't, because somebody had to pay for it. | ||
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That's crazy, Joe. | |
| That could have paid for a fucking teacher, okay? | ||
| There's a whole bunch of shit we just made. | ||
| That could have hired a better group of coaches for a football team. | ||
| I like that rock art, dawg. | ||
| You do? | ||
| I like that one. | ||
| Well, that's why it's there. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because the world's all different. | ||
| Like, hot food tastes different to me than it does to some folks. | ||
| It must be. | ||
| Some people looked at that and they go, it's amazing! | ||
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I don't see that. | |
| And they got this feeling. | ||
| I could just look at it and be like, I can appreciate somebody putting that rug there. | ||
| Somebody might have even looked at that box on the ground and got that feeling. | ||
| I'm not denying that. | ||
| They'd have to explain that one to me. | ||
| Well, they'd be like, well, this is what it is. | ||
| It's like, everything is so defined, okay? | ||
| When you read a book, all the words are in the order. | ||
| I mean, even if you're thinking about what this person wrote, they wrote it, okay? | ||
| So they're forcing this into your mind. | ||
| So this artist is giving the opportunity. | ||
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I feel like you made it, man. | |
| This artist is giving you the opportunity to put inside that box or to whatever, put whatever signification, whatever important significance of that box. | ||
| It's all up to your interpretation, man. | ||
| She has a point. | ||
| I don't know why it's a she. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| She's transitioning. | ||
| She seemed like she was transitioning while I was talking. | ||
| I was like, I lost my girl. | ||
| I started out as a girl, and then I got annoyed, and I became a gay guy for a little while. | ||
| And at the end, I was an old lady who smoked cigarettes. | ||
| Those tones are very different, right? | ||
| Like you can go gay guy, old lady will smoke cigarettes, there's that voice, this is where we put the stuff. | ||
| LACMA. There's a video too. | ||
| There's a video that was playing a giant-ass screen, and it was like people playing catch with a ball. | ||
| Throwing a two, catch a two. | ||
| Like slow motion with like a volleyball. | ||
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Catch. | |
| It was so fucking stupid. | ||
| I was like, what are you doing? | ||
| You've got a video of a guy throwing a ball to another guy? | ||
| You've got to be able to express yourself, man. | ||
| I'm so confused. | ||
| I kind of feel them now, man. | ||
| Who's funding it? | ||
| Who's funding it? | ||
| Did we find out? | ||
| The ball thing? | ||
| No, the L.A. County Museum of Art. | ||
| They're probably mad at me right now. | ||
| They're so snotty there, too. | ||
| Hey, Pub is good, Pub, man. | ||
| So snotty. | ||
| So many people that were snot balls. | ||
| Taxpayers of Los Angeles. | ||
| Oh, adorable! | ||
| Now are you mad? | ||
| Now I disagree with that. | ||
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Now are you mad? | |
| Think about the fucking schools in LA. Think about what teachers get paid. | ||
| Think about cops. | ||
| LACMA's most reliable patrons, 10 million taxpayers. | ||
| And I guess people can sign up and give money if you like being around other weirdos. | ||
| But here's the deal. | ||
| Those weirdos, man, to them, it's cool. | ||
| When they go there, they like it. | ||
| You know, I'm a fucking idiot. | ||
| Just because, I mean, I'm aware I'm an idiot because I don't know how you're looking at that plastic box on the ground. | ||
| There could be a bunch of people that like it. | ||
| I got a question for you, man. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I've been a fan of you for a long time, right? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| What made you make the switch from being a moon landing denier to like... | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| You're fucking crazy if you don't do anything. | ||
| No, I don't think we're crazy. | ||
| No, this is my take on it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I don't know enough about astrophysics, about space travel, about the science, the work that's been done about how to get a rocket to the moon and back. | ||
| I definitely don't know enough. | ||
| It's rocket science. | ||
| And I've looked at a lot of very compelling documentaries that explain why they think it was hoaxed. | ||
| And they'll show you some footage, and you can look at some of the footage, and it looks fake as fuck. | ||
| There's some footage that, to me, looks really doctored. | ||
| To this day. | ||
| Yeah, to this day. | ||
| You ever seen ones where it looks like they're on wires, that the astronauts are on wires? | ||
| I have. | ||
| There's some where there's a video where they look like they're on a trampoline, they're bouncing around on trampolines. | ||
| The physics are different in different videos. | ||
| This is where it gets weird. | ||
| The physics are different from the Apollo 11 moon landing. | ||
| We see them waddle around on the surface of the moon. | ||
| They're moving at half speed. | ||
| And then you see them in other ones, like the one where they bounce around the air. | ||
| They're moving different. | ||
| They're in the same thing, but it looks different. | ||
| The first one was very grainy. | ||
| They showed it on a projection screen. | ||
| There's a couple different possibilities. | ||
| One possibility is it just looks weird because it's on the moon, and your brain is trying to interpret it, and your brain's going, well, that's fake. | ||
| Because you don't really understand what 1-6 Earth's gravity really does to a body. | ||
| That's one possibility. | ||
| Another possibility, which has been shown to be true, is that some of the stuff that they passed off as being legitimate photographs of space travel was actually test runs where they blacked out the background and pretended that they were in space. | ||
| And there's one really clear example of this. | ||
| It's Michael Collins. | ||
| Michael Collins was a guy who was aboard Apollo 11 and Gemini 15. There's a photo of him in the middle of a... | ||
| What is it when they walk around outside the spacewalk? | ||
| They call it a spacewalk? | ||
| Why does it seem like a bad word? | ||
| It's like spacewalk? | ||
| It doesn't seem like that's the official title. | ||
| Well, it's in the middle of a spacewalk. | ||
| It's probably something more... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A little more syllables. | ||
| Yeah, something slicker. | ||
| Anyway, so he's doing the spacewalk and he's got this harness on. | ||
| He's holding on to this, like, thing. | ||
| And it was apparently just an image that had already been published of him in a training exercise. | ||
| And they blacked out the background and flipped the picture upside down. | ||
| That's the joint right there. | ||
| It's the same exact photo. | ||
| Same exact photo. | ||
| I mean, people have lined it up and switched it over. | ||
| It's the same photo. | ||
| It's just been edited. | ||
| So the one on the left... | ||
| Was them practicing how to use these... | ||
| I don't guess that the harness is some sort of a thing that he's hanging on to. | ||
| I guess it moves him around a little bit. | ||
| They were trying to practice it on the left, and on the right they just passed it off. | ||
| But those are publicity photos, right? | ||
| So you gotta go, well, okay, who approves of publicity photos? | ||
| It could easily be just some idiot who works in... | ||
| The publicity department who did marketing, who didn't think they had enough photos from the moon that were good of spacewalks. | ||
| It's probably insanely difficult to take a spacewalk photo. | ||
| So, does that mean that they faked the moon landing? | ||
| No, but it means that people fake things. | ||
| So you gotta be really objective and look at that. | ||
| Okay, so people say fake things. | ||
| They definitely filmed A lot of the training exercises that they did of the moon landing. | ||
| They filmed a lot of shit. | ||
| They definitely did. | ||
| If that has already been proven, that they took this fake photograph and they tried to pass it off as a real spacewalk, it's entirely possible that some of the stuff that they filmed They made out to look like they were on the moon when they were not But does that mean they didn't go to the moon? | ||
| No, it doesn't and so when I was saying it proves that they didn't go to the moon I My critique of myself Is that I didn't look at it objectively because I wanted one conclusion to be true. | ||
| And I wanted that conclusion to be that the moon landing was fake. | ||
| So I looked at it and I was saying to myself, okay, did I come to this conclusion because there's a lot of evidence that shows it to be fake? | ||
| Or have I seen a lot of evidence that looks fake? | ||
| And does that mean that they didn't go to the moon? | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| There's a bunch of different possibilities. | ||
| There's a ton of different possibilities. | ||
| There's also the possibility that whatever photographs they took can get severely damaged in the radiation of space, and that it was really difficult to do. | ||
| That's possible too, and that they decided somehow or another that they were going to pass off these, that they actually did go, and they decided they're going to pass off some of these fake videos. | ||
| So there's a bunch of possibilities. | ||
| The possibility that it looks fake because I'm dumb and because I don't understand anything about the physics of 1-6 Earth's gravity and it just looks weird because it's shitty film and it's 1969. That's possibility number one. | ||
| Number two is they fake some things. | ||
| Number three is they didn't really have good footage because you couldn't take film through the airport. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| People would go through those radar detectors and your film would get jacked. | ||
| They weren't responsible. | ||
| I didn't have any film, but I know. | ||
| I have friends that are photographers. | ||
| My uncle's a photographer, and he would tell me, you can't send the film. | ||
| If you take a roll of film and awesome pictures... | ||
| So how would they get it, too? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck they did. | ||
| But I know that some film has been damaged. | ||
| Or maybe it's an urban myth. | ||
| Find out if film got damaged by those radar things at the airport. | ||
| X-rays. | ||
| X-rays at the airport. | ||
| I could appreciate the mindset, though, of looking at your opinion objectively and saying, am I tripping? | ||
| Let's look at the facts and say, I'm just not really sure. | ||
| I think that's the problem with people today, people in period, is that they're afraid to say, I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They're super afraid. | ||
| To me, ignorance is such a gift. | ||
| It just gives you an opportunity to learn some shit if you're humble enough. | ||
| Don't assume you know shit. | ||
| Even the shit I feel like I know, I still feel like I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, well that seems you have a very healthy ego for a big, young, fucking super athlete. | ||
| It's fucking That's fucking football, man. | ||
| I know, but I'm saying your ego is very healthy. | ||
| You have a really good way of looking at things. | ||
| I think that's the right way to be, man. | ||
| You can't be married to ideas and opinions like that because they're not you. | ||
| But we think that they are. | ||
| They're like an extension of us. | ||
| So we want to win these arguments. | ||
| We want to be right. | ||
| I think it gets real scary when you want to be right. | ||
| And then you're willing to ignore evidence that might show that you're wrong. | ||
| That's how I felt about myself. | ||
| And by the way, if you wanted a conspiracy that's a good one, that seems like it might be possible, the moon landing is one of the best ones. | ||
| And this is why it's so attractive. | ||
| Between 1969 and 1973... | ||
| Are you still on the fence about this, huh? | ||
| No, I'm not at all. | ||
| I'm on the I don't know shit fence. | ||
| That's where I live. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But between that time... | ||
| You got a lot of facts on this side. | ||
| I'm with you though. | ||
| They sent... | ||
| I think it was seven missions. | ||
| Six of them were successful. | ||
| The only one that wasn't successful was Apollo 13, right? | ||
| They sent these fucking people around the moon 250,000 plus miles out there and back. | ||
| But ever since then, all they've been able to do is get people into near-earth orbit. | ||
| Ever since then, like the highest anyone's ever gone, I think it's 400 miles. | ||
| So they went from 260,000 miles all the way to the moon and back to 400 miles. | ||
| Everything is like inside. | ||
| And they've never gone through the Van Allen radiation belts. | ||
| They've never gone into deep space and returned. | ||
| They haven't done that since 1973. I thought, and I could be wrong, but I thought it was because of funding. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Meanwhile, LACMA's got funds. | ||
| Show me how that makes sense. | ||
| You don't want to fund space travel. | ||
| You want to fund that fucking acrylic box. | ||
| Amber box. | ||
| Great adjective, by the way. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
| It is a great one. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I don't think that I know whether or not we went to the moon, but I'm telling you that if you wanted a juicy conspiracy to get excited about, it's the best one to get excited about. | ||
| They lost all the data. | ||
| I see, because I see, like, you know, you go down to the YouTube wormhole, you start watching Barry Sanders highlights, and then all this stuff... | ||
| I'm looking at JFK being Michael Jackson or some shit. | ||
| But like, I just don't see what the motive would be. | ||
| Like, what is the fucking motive? | ||
| The Cold War. | ||
| First of all, we wanted to beat the Russians because we were in a race to see who can get to the moon. | ||
| And here's one of the things that we do know for a fact. | ||
| The Russians faked a bunch of shit. | ||
| They faked a bunch of footage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yuri Gagarin, who was the first man in space, they had a video- You might be an expert on this, man. | ||
| Well, I studied this. | ||
| I debated a guy who was a really nice guy, but Phil Plait, who's a bad astronomer, badastronomer.com. | ||
| And there's a lot of things he wasn't willing to admit, though, that were unfortunate. | ||
| Because maybe he could have convinced me more if he was. | ||
| And one of the big ones was that Wernher von Braun was a Nazi. | ||
| They hired a bunch of Nazis to run the space program. | ||
| It was called Operation Paperclip. | ||
| And what Operation Paperclip was was they took a bunch of Nazi scientists and relocated them to the United States. | ||
| We lost some of them to Russia. | ||
| Russia scooped up some of them. | ||
| But when we ended World War II and Nazi Germany collapsed, we went in and took the scientists. | ||
| Well, Wernher von Braun was the head of a rocket factory. | ||
| In Berlin, where they used to hang the five slowest Jews in front of the rocket factory for all the other workers to see. | ||
| Warner Von Braun, the Simon Wiesenthal Center said, if Warner Von Braun was alive today, he'd be punished for crimes against humanity. | ||
| This is news to me. | ||
| Yeah, no, Werner Von Braun was a straight-up Nazi. | ||
| And this guy was not willing to admit that. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, it's like, well, you know, just because someone's in Germany. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| No, he was a Nazi. | ||
| He was a Nazi. | ||
| Whether or not he actually killed anybody, maybe he had to be a Nazi. | ||
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Right. | |
| I mean, we're not saying that, look... | ||
| If you're fucked, and you're in this neighborhood, and it overcomes the entire neighborhood, you want to keep your family alive, so you put that thing on your jacket sleeve, you put that swastika on, and you see guy like everybody else, maybe you're not really a Nazi ideologically, maybe you're not a Nazi in your heart, maybe you're just trying to stay alive. | ||
| That's entirely possible, too. | ||
| But, he was a Nazi. | ||
| He was a fucking Nazi. | ||
| And they had slaves that were running rocket factories in Berlin, where they were figuring out how to make rockets. | ||
| That's just brand new. | ||
| I need to... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Operation Paperclip. | ||
| Cold War, President Truman authorized Operation Paperclip in August of 1945. The U.S. Army secretly admitted 88 German scientists and engineers to help in development of rocket technology, including Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph, and Herbata Strugold. | ||
| Herbertus? | ||
| Herbertus? | ||
| Hubertus? | ||
| Hubertus. | ||
| That's a great name. | ||
| It's not a great name, bro. | ||
| Bring that back. | ||
| Hubertus. | ||
| If you have a fucking stud kid, who's like one of the strongest men in the world, his name is Hubertus. | ||
| That's my son, Hubertus. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
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Oh, that's true. | |
| He was named after a Nazi. | ||
| So, there was like something in the debate that guy was not willing to admit, which made me even more skeptical that he was right about the other stuff. | ||
| The other thing was that they... | ||
| Moon rocks that they've collected from the moon have turned out to not really be moon rocks. | ||
| A bunch of them, for sure, have been tested by scientists, and they've found that these rocks are from another planet. | ||
| But there was a rock that they gave to whoever's the head of Holland, and it was personally given with a plaque by Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins. | ||
| And it turned out to be petrified wood. | ||
| Moon rock given to Holland by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin is fake. | ||
| It's a moon rock given to the Dutch Prime Minister by the Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969. It turned out to be a fake. | ||
| So they were giving people pieces of petrified wood saying, this is for you. | ||
| We went to the moon. | ||
| God bless America. | ||
| 308,000 euros. | ||
| Now, there's a bunch of possibilities, okay? | ||
| Let's just be honest about this, because this story is from 2009. It's entirely possible that between 1969... | ||
| Well, there's multiple sources, but that's The Telegraph. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| That's a legit newspaper. | ||
| But you've got to trace the source. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| What I'm saying is that it's entirely possible that someone stole that moon rock and replaced it with that. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Or it's possible they just had some fake rocks. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Bill Clinton had a fucking, he had a quote in his book, in one of his books. | ||
| I think his book is called My Life. | ||
| He had a quote about the moon landing and a story about him having this conversation with a carpenter and that this carpenter said that he didn't believe the moon landing. | ||
| He goes, them television fellers, they can make anything look real. | ||
| And he said, this is a quote in Bill Clinton's fucking book. | ||
| He said, back then, I thought that guy was a quack. | ||
| But after, or crank, whatever, crazy person. | ||
| But after eight years in the White House, I was wondering if he wasn't ahead of his time. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| This is a guy that was the fucking president of the United States. | ||
| And he's talking specifically about an old carpenter telling him the moon landing was fake. | ||
| And then he says, I wondered after eight years in the White House if that guy wasn't ahead of his time. | ||
| Causation. | ||
| Correlation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, look. | ||
| Look, could be bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could be bullshit. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It could be just a good story. | ||
| But I think that's the thing about conspiracy theorists. | ||
| It's like, they leave you on all these dead-end chases. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| What's weird is that Trump's a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| There's a lot more adjectives you can add on to that. | ||
| Yeah, but the conspiracy theory aspect is interesting. | ||
| As far as what can be confirmed. | ||
| You know he's going to want to know about UFOs. | ||
| That's probably the first shit he did. | ||
| He probably sat them down. | ||
| What's going on with the aliens? | ||
| Where do we stand? | ||
| He has an interest in that? | ||
| Where do we stand? | ||
| Who doesn't? | ||
| You wouldn't? | ||
| I would guess it. | ||
| I do. | ||
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For sure. | |
| I do. | ||
| I don't think we have been visited. | ||
| Come on, dude. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| President you. | ||
| You become the president. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| President Foster. | ||
| How are you, sir? | ||
| I'm well, man. | ||
| What would you like to do today? | ||
| I'd like to find out if there's fucking aliens! | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| It's my first day on the job. | ||
| That ain't my first one, man. | ||
| No? | ||
| Nah. | ||
| First day on the job. | ||
| I'm like, take me to the bodies. | ||
| I need to know what the fuck we're up against. | ||
| Are they real? | ||
| I need to know. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| I would need to know. | ||
| If you knew that there might be a possibility that they knew, you sat down with all the... | ||
| I definitely had to ask, yeah. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| If you heard rumblings, if you and Mike Pence were in the elevator... | ||
| He wouldn't be my vice president, man. | ||
| Okay, who would your vice president be? | ||
| Not him. | ||
| Not Mike Pence, but yeah, we on the elevator. | ||
| Who would it be? | ||
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You. | |
| I don't want to be vice president. | ||
| No shit, bro. | ||
| That means you get shot if you have to be president. | ||
| I get Sam Harris, man. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| That's my guy. | ||
| I would let him be president, though. | ||
| Have you had him on your... | ||
| Bunch times. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, bunch times. | ||
| He's on in a week, too. | ||
| What's crazy is I'm subscribed to you on YouTube and the shit keeps kicking me off and I don't know what's going on with that. | ||
| That's the government trying to control me. | ||
| They can't handle the truth. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Shit pisses me off. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I think it's just an algorithm issue because we also have an issue when we retweet. | ||
| There's an automatic tweet that YouTube does and it sends out that we're going live, that we're broadcasting live. | ||
| It tweets it out to people, or it sends it out, but it sends it in fucking Spanish? | ||
| Was it like, it was like Dutch? | ||
| Today it says I started a live stream on YouTube, but the last two days, yeah, it was like Dutch or Swedish or I don't know. | ||
| Bunch of weird languages that I didn't, I couldn't speak. | ||
| That's interesting, man. | ||
| Yeah, for some reason, my Google shows up in my inbox, just my name, like in German, like the inbox thing. | ||
| It says it's in German. | ||
| I'm like, I have no idea. | ||
| Because you got hacked, some German guy. | ||
| Probably, man. | ||
| Yeah man. | ||
| I don't got shit to hack though. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, to the long answer of your question, that's where I stood on this whole moon landing thing. | ||
| That's why I came around to thinking in a different way. | ||
| I was way too convinced that I was right. | ||
| I'm like, I'm convinced I was right, but fucking real low levels of understanding of any of the science of this stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's the problem is, as a society, we're so scientifically illiterate, you know, and that causes so much room for speculation. | ||
| And you're kind of... | ||
| You're kind of a prisoner of people who are masters of their craft. | ||
| You're kind of a prisoner to their quote-unquote agenda. | ||
| I don't want to put that bad of a term on it, but you're kind of a prisoner of that because we don't have any choice but to take their word for it or to pursue it yourself. | ||
| Right, to learn about what they're talking about yourself, to know if they're right or not. | ||
| Well, that's absolutely the case, right? | ||
| Because you know that's the case in almost everything else. | ||
| Like, that was always, like, a real problem with martial arts, was there was this one dude who had all the information and you didn't know, and then you would listen to him say shit, and you'd be like, Whoa, is that true? | ||
| And you would think it was true, but now like there's videos you could watch on YouTube of like some crazy kung-fu dude That's just talking nonsense. | ||
| He doesn't really know how to do anything. | ||
| He's just got some crazy thing about chi power And if you don't know you think this guy is real But once you know, you go, oh, you motherfucker. | ||
| So, like, someone can pull the wool over your eyes about that. | ||
| They could just easily do it with any kind of science or rocket travel. | ||
| See, that's what really got me interested in science. | ||
| Especially, like, with this climate change shit. | ||
| So, like, you start reading the articles people give you of, like, why it's not real. | ||
| And then you go and follow the source. | ||
| Like, that's where I really learned to start following the sources at all the articles. | ||
| Because it's those sources that you lead to the main... | ||
| Source of where the information actually came from and it usually leads to like a scientific paper published in a journal and they're fairly easy to Understand because it's very with it. | ||
| I mean the math and the in the actual science is probably won't understand but like you can get to They break down how they got to their conclusions. | ||
| Yeah, and that's what I can appreciate about science is it actually gives you a An understanding Yeah, with citations. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Shows you what each study was all about that proved certain things on it. | ||
| Yeah, that's super important to be able to look at that stuff. | ||
| I got a lot of time though. | ||
| I got a lot of time though, man. | ||
| I do it with biology sometimes. | ||
| I do it with different discoveries. | ||
| I got obsessed with this chimpanzee that they found in the Congo. | ||
| It's called the Bondo ape. | ||
| And I started reading as much as I could read about this chimpanzee. | ||
| There's one chimpanzee in the Congo that's way bigger than other chimpanzees. | ||
| It's enormous. | ||
| It's like a six foot tall, 300 pound chimpanzee. | ||
| They walk upright. | ||
| They're huge. | ||
| Enormous chimps. | ||
| Isn't that okay? | ||
| Well, they have two different kinds of chimps too. | ||
| Like the locals call them tree beaters and they have another one. | ||
| I think they call them the ground dwellers and tree beaters. | ||
| I think that's what they call them. | ||
| Because these chimps are so big that they nest on the ground like gorillas. | ||
| They don't even bother climbing trees. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But they're limited to this one area. | ||
| They have a crest on their forehead like a gorilla where it's a high crest of the bone. | ||
| So they have these big massive plates of muscle that they bite down with. | ||
| And then they have like this gorilla crest Regular chimps don't have that. | ||
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Right. | |
| So when they first found skulls from these things, they were confused. | ||
| They were trying to figure out if it was a hybrid between a gorilla and a chimp. | ||
| But then... | ||
| Is that one? | ||
| Where'd you get that? | ||
| Just Bondo-8. | ||
| That looks fake. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It looks weird. | ||
| That looks fake. | ||
| But see that one? | ||
| Okay, go up to... | ||
| Press your cursor above and then go slightly to the right. | ||
| Go all the way to the right. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| No, the bottom level. | ||
| Bottom level. | ||
| I'm sorry, up here. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no, no where those those pictures right above just go straight above now go to the right to the right to the right one more next guy that picture sorry Yeah, just make it bigger that was taken by a guy named Carl Armand he's a swiss wildlife photographer and He became obsessed with these Bondo apes in I feel like it was somewhere around 1996 and And he moved to the Congo, and he stayed there for quite a while, trying to take photographs of these really elusive animals. | ||
| But they got that one on a camera trap, and it's a fucking huge chimpanzee. | ||
| There's another one that is dead that they shot, and it's these two guys hold it by the... | ||
| That's one for sure. | ||
| But that's a pretty big one, but there's that one right there. | ||
| That's a way bigger one. | ||
| They shot that one at the airport. | ||
| It is fucking huge and it was shot somewhere some near some airstrip so that's like one of the Big pieces of evidence other than now they have bones and they have scat samples and and tissue samples So they know they exist, but they're really really really hard to get to because the Congo is like almost as wide as the United States And it's just filled with fucking crazy shit that can kill you. | ||
| Everywhere you go is just monsters. | ||
| Just everywhere. | ||
| Fucking crocodiles. | ||
| It's the wild, man. | ||
| And the people there are dangerous as fuck, too. | ||
| But this area is particularly dangerous. | ||
| So it's really difficult to get to. | ||
| But I got obsessed with this goddamn thing. | ||
| So I was reading everything I could read about that. | ||
| I've never heard of it. | ||
| Never fell in love with the apes like that, man. | ||
| I'm fascinated by apes, man. | ||
| I feel like we're so close. | ||
| We're just the hair removed. | ||
| Yeah, we are. | ||
| So to me, when you look at them, I got super high once when I went to the zoo and I hung out. | ||
| I was by myself, sat in front of the chimpanzee cage for like a good solid hour, man. | ||
| Just watch those chimps move around. | ||
| I was on an edible. | ||
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Edibles. | |
| They hit you. | ||
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Just do things for you. | |
| They sit you back. | ||
| And I remember watching them interact with each other, thinking they're like people, but not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're like people, but way more brutal, way less paths. | ||
| It's eerie. | ||
| It's kind of eerie. | ||
| I was actually at the zoo not too long ago. | ||
| I took my kids. | ||
| They love a gopher. | ||
| But I don't remember what kind of primate it was, man. | ||
| But he was just hanging on a cage, and we was walking by, and he was just kind of like following us. | ||
| And I was like, I felt so weird, man. | ||
| It was almost like he was like, what's going on, man? | ||
| How y'all doing? | ||
| It was the weirdest shit. | ||
| I wasn't even on an edible. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird when you see their nature come out. | ||
| They're like us. | ||
| You ever seen one? | ||
| There was one where a little kid was like pounding her chest in front of the window and the gorilla was like, bitch! | ||
| He just threw himself at the glass and cracked it. | ||
| I saw that one. | ||
| He cracked the glass, man. | ||
| They don't need to be in there, man. | ||
| Yeah, they shouldn't be in there. | ||
| I mean, the only thing that I could see that would make sense why you want to keep them there is because if they're so endangered that you need to keep them alive in these contained environments before they figure out a way to reintroduce them back into the wild. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| Extinction is part of the evolutionary process. | ||
| It's like 99% of all species have died off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's part of it. | ||
| So you think we should just let them die? | ||
| Let them die. | ||
| Whoa, that's deep. | ||
| It is. | ||
| People don't want to hear that. | ||
| But it's the truth. | ||
| Everything dies. | ||
| You know what's fucked up? | ||
| What if we're letting these gorillas stay alive, but really, if we just let them die, they would evolve into something way cooler. | ||
| What if we don't know? | ||
| That's the shit that I've been thinking about, dog. | ||
| It's like, alright, so the evolutionary... | ||
| Tree of life. | ||
| We have fucked it up. | ||
| I don't want to say fucked it up because it was definitely a part of it, but it's like we're directly influencing it. | ||
| And I just wonder where is it going to go from here? | ||
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Well, all life forms do that though. | |
| We've kind of escaped because natural selection is all about survival and it's all about adapting to the environment to survive. | ||
| And now it's not about that anymore. | ||
| We don't adapt to our environment to survive anymore. | ||
| We create our environment. | ||
| It's different, man. | ||
| It is definitely different, but it's still adapting to the environment because instead of using physical tools and attributes, we figured out a way to do it mentally where we create things that can alter the environment. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| What it signals is, to me, is a new form of life. | ||
| It's structured. | ||
| Structures and things that we're using, whether they're household appliances or electronics... | ||
| All that stuff is evolving as well. | ||
| It's all happening, right? | ||
| So that's the new ability to adapt. | ||
| It's all coming out of these things instead of coming out of us. | ||
| We're putting our work into that. | ||
| But that's what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm not sure, but I don't think we've ever seen this part of evolution arise like this before. | ||
| No, we haven't. | ||
| Not like this. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| And it's crazy to me. | ||
| I love that I live in the time that we do, the information age and all of that shit, but I still want to be able to live like 300 years from now to see where we're at in society. | ||
| I would love to see that. | ||
| Yeah, I would love to see it too, but I'm scared. | ||
| I want to see it happen though. | ||
| I like this now. | ||
| I like this now. | ||
| I'm fascinated to see what's happening here. | ||
| I am too, but I want to see AI and I want to see life on other planets. | ||
| I think AI's gonna turn out like Blade Runner. | ||
| Blade Runner, I don't... | ||
| You never saw that movie? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I saw Blade. | ||
| I saw that too. | ||
| I don't know Blade Runner. | ||
| Blade Runner's Harrison Ford, the movie about these artificial people that are so difficult to tell that they don't even know they're artificial people. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Dude, it's a dope movie. | ||
| Gotta check that one out. | ||
| Well, they're doing it again, right? | ||
| Who's gonna be the Blade Runner guy now? | ||
| Is Harrison Ford in it again? | ||
| That would be crazy. | ||
| Rutger Hauer. | ||
| Ryan Gosling. | ||
| Oh, powerful Ryan Gosling. | ||
| Yeah, good move. | ||
| It's a great science fiction movie, man. | ||
| Ryan Gosling can act. | ||
| He'll pull that shit off. | ||
| It's a really good movie, man. | ||
| I gotta check him out. | ||
| It holds up, too. | ||
| It's one of those few movies that holds up. | ||
| I gotta check him out. | ||
| But it was probably like about... | ||
| I mean, the movie was made, I want to say, in the 90s, right? | ||
| 80s? | ||
| 82. 82. Yeah, that was before my time, man. | ||
| Yeah, before everybody's time. | ||
| But it seemed, I think they were saying it was like 2030 or some shit like that. | ||
| 2019, actually. | ||
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2019? | |
| That's hilarious! | ||
| Shit, it's two years, man. | ||
| That's hilarious! | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
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They always think that it was going to be way more crazy than it is. | |
| I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| We got hoverboards, man. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, what they never expected is the craziest thing, which is the internet. | ||
| They thought that our evolution would turn, would be like people would fly around in cars, like they had flying cars and shit. | ||
| That's what they thought was gonna happen. | ||
| And then they would have artificial people that you couldn't distinguish. | ||
| Like, uh, surrogates? | ||
| Well, they were, the Rutger Hauer character was the most fascinating one. | ||
| I checked this movie out. | ||
| It's a good fucking movie. | ||
| I love sci-fi, that's my favorite shit. | ||
| And there's that girl that was, what was her name? | ||
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Shawn, what was her name? | |
| She was a huge deal for a long time. | ||
| She was a huge movie star. | ||
| Shawn, goddammit. | ||
| But she was one of those people, like one of the first people that we saw in the younger generation, Shawn Young, to sort of crack from the pressure of stardom and success. | ||
| Just, woo! | ||
| It's that fishbowl, man. | ||
| It's going crazy, yeah. | ||
| It's that fishbowl. | ||
| That fishbowl's no joke, right? | ||
| It's a weird thing, man. | ||
| It's a weird thing. | ||
| Funny shit ever, man. | ||
| So, like, I'm having dinner. | ||
| I got my kids and stuff. | ||
| We had a table. | ||
| And that was a couple years ago. | ||
| And we in Houston and some guy comes and says, Hey, man, big fan, man, can you take a picture of my baby? | ||
| And then puts his baby on the table. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| What the fuck? | ||
| It's the weirdest shit ever, man. | ||
| And people do weird stuff like that all the time. | ||
| Put his baby on the table. | ||
| On the table. | ||
| Like, take a picture of my baby. | ||
| And I'm like, dog, get your baby off the table, man. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, you probably get it all the time. | ||
| People do weird shit. | ||
| Yeah, but that's a weird one. | ||
| Clink. | ||
| Yeah, take a picture of my baby. | ||
| People are like, hold my baby. | ||
| Like, take a picture of my baby. | ||
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What? | |
| If I drop your baby, do you know what kind of shit I'd be? | ||
| I was like, I'm not holding your baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is wrong? | ||
| Why would you want me to hold you? | ||
| Your baby has no clue who I am. | ||
| Like, doesn't care. | ||
| People are strange, man. | ||
| Baby wants milk. | ||
| People are fucking strange. | ||
| I think at least you were a young man when you experienced that. | ||
| What freaks me out is child stars. | ||
| I couldn't. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| Because it's cues. | ||
| Like, you never get normalcy. | ||
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No. | |
| Like, that fucks you up. | ||
| There's no normal. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| You never get it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You were born famous. | ||
| Like, if you're famous when you're seven... | ||
| Do you remember before seven? | ||
| I don't remember before seven. | ||
| I think four is when I really started, like, okay, I'm in the world. | ||
| Jamie, you got any memories of when you were seven? | ||
| A few of, like, being at a babysitter and, like, nothing real. | ||
| So if everything from seven on was fame? | ||
| It's a funny story. | ||
| My mom to this day, dog, she denies it, right? | ||
| So I have this vivid memory. | ||
| I was three years old. | ||
| And I used to have a babysitter right across the street from my apartment complex that I used to go to. | ||
| I forget her name. | ||
| But one day, I come into the room, and there's paramedics. | ||
| I didn't know there were paramedics, but there's paramedics. | ||
| And she's sitting, or she's laying on the couch. | ||
| She was pregnant the whole time. | ||
| And I see her belly split open. | ||
| I saw a C-section at like three or four years old. | ||
| My mom does not believe me to this day. | ||
| She's like, there's no way you saw a C-section. | ||
| I'm like, how do I know this? | ||
| And I didn't say anything at the time, because... | ||
| I mean, how did I know that didn't happen in every babysitter's place? | ||
| I had no idea, but I saw it as a kid. | ||
| That was very bad. | ||
| I'm not sure why they didn't take me out of the room. | ||
| It's disturbing, man. | ||
| But is it good for you to see? | ||
| It's just information, right? | ||
| Nobody got hurt. | ||
| It seems like a crazy thing, but it's how life gets into the world. | ||
| I just feel like if I was cutting the belly open and I see a three-year-old, I'm like, you should probably leave the room. | ||
| I don't know what it could have did to me. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I definitely wouldn't encourage a three-year-old to do it. | |
| That I know would be good. | ||
| Oh, no, it's good for the kid. | ||
| Let him see it. | ||
| Let him see it. | ||
| Get up close, Billy. | ||
| Don't be a pussy! | ||
| Stop throwing up! | ||
| You're gonna make this place contaminated! | ||
| Some girls do it just to keep their pussy tight. | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
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Yep. | |
| They're like, I'm not taking any chances. | ||
| That is so selfish. | ||
| Or they're just like, tight pussy. | ||
| Happy National Woman's Day. | ||
| Look, they're like, listen, the kid's gonna be fine. | ||
| Debbie's son was born by C-section. | ||
| He's fine. | ||
| The kid's fine. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| That's a real thing? | ||
| Yeah, it's a real thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was a thing they used to advertise. | ||
| Joey Diaz used to have a joke about it, about vaginal rejuvenation. | ||
| They used to talk about that all the time because it became a thing where they could tighten that baby back. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know everything else, bro. | ||
| I bet it's horrific. | ||
| If you have a big thing and you have to make it a small thing, it involves cutting and stitching. | ||
| And I would imagine it would be... | ||
| That's a weird... | ||
| That's a weird place to get cuddled by. | ||
|
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Yikes! | |
| Can't do it. | ||
|
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Woo! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And then what happens after that? | ||
| What if it's too tight? | ||
| What if it doesn't work anymore? | ||
| What if the doctor fucks up? | ||
| Non-surgical 30-minute treatment. | ||
| Thank God it's quick. | ||
| It only takes 30 minutes. | ||
| That's what everybody wants. | ||
| I can fix your pussy in 30 minutes. | ||
| Where do I sign? | ||
| Where do I put my credit card? | ||
| There's a 30-minute procedure that tightens up your box and girls just are so lazy they don't go. | ||
| I don't have 30 minutes. | ||
| Just 30 minutes. | ||
| That's all you have to do. | ||
| Are you saying that it's not good? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Baby, baby, it's amazing. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not good. | ||
| But you can make it perfect. | ||
| But you can make it perfect. | ||
| Why are you fucking around? | ||
| Like if there was a 30 second dick rejuvenation procedure where there was like a place that you could go and they could make your dick bigger. | ||
| Vaginal rejuvenation. | ||
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Learn more. | |
| Flying in? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They would have, like, flights out of Kennedy that were directly going there. | ||
| Yo, good morning, America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| Yeah, look at it. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is my favorite part. | ||
| Did you know that you age in every part of your body? | ||
| They're talking about old pussies. | ||
| They just planted a thought in your head. | ||
| My dude, Patrice O'Neal, say, what do you say? | ||
| He say, age like bread, not like wine. | ||
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What do you say? | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Go back. | ||
| Don't scroll down. | ||
| Look at the top paragraph here. | ||
| Female wellness is just as important as taking care of your face. | ||
| What in the fuck does that mean? | ||
| I would agree. | ||
| Yeah, but what she's saying, female wellness. | ||
| She's talking about having a tight pussy. | ||
| You gotta be PC a little bit, man. | ||
| That's hilarious! | ||
| You gotta sell your product and you can't just be saying, yo, fix your box, women. | ||
| What business are you in? | ||
| Female wellness. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
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I fix pussies. | |
| Tighten them bitches up. | ||
| West Side Aesthetics is introducing a revolutionary technology that rejuvenates the vaginal area and remarkably restores women's confidence. | ||
| Their confidence. | ||
| That's a big part of life though, man. | ||
| Sex is a huge part of life. | ||
| Look at this shit. | ||
| Thermova is a 30-minute non-surgical treatment that gently applies radiation! | ||
| Radio frequency. | ||
| Radio frequency. | ||
| RF frequency to reclaim, restore, and revive feminine wellness. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Without discomfort or downtime. | ||
| Downtime from dick. | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| Where's the small print? | ||
| That is a small print. | ||
| Like, I'm really concerned that while getting rejuvenated, I can't take dick. | ||
| Oh, no, baby. | ||
| There's got to be a... | ||
| Jamie, go back so I can read more of that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, this is crazy. | ||
| It increases nourishment to tissues by stimulating blood vessel production and increases sensitivity by stimulating nerve regeneration. | ||
| Okay, that doesn't seem true. | ||
| Because everything that I've read about nerve regeneration is a very slow and tedious process. | ||
| Yeah, no it is. | ||
| Like, if you get injured, right? | ||
| Yeah, so my dad actually had, we're not sure what happened, but he kind of lost a feeling in his arm. | ||
| Did he have a pinched nerve? | ||
| He can't raise, I think that's probably what it was. | ||
| But, like, it's slowly creeping its way. | ||
| That was, like, two years ago, and it's slowly, he still struggles with it, but, you know. | ||
| Slowly getting better? | ||
| Yeah, slowly getting better. | ||
| It's a slow process, though. | ||
| Real slow. | ||
| Yeah, super slow. | ||
| My friend Bas Rutten, the former UFC champion, had neck surgery. | ||
| It had something fucked up in his neck. | ||
| And his arm shrunk to the point where he calls one arm his baby arm. | ||
| Atrophy. | ||
| And it's coming back now, slowly but surely. | ||
| But every time I see him, like a year later, it's like a little bit better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like a multi, multi-year process. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| And this guy was... | ||
| UFC heavyweight champion. | ||
| I mean, he's a bad motherfucker in his prime. | ||
| And it got him to the point where his arm... | ||
| And it doesn't even grow back. | ||
| So you're telling me they can just blast your pussy with some radiation and those nerves are gonna go back? | ||
| Why wouldn't they take that nerve pussy thing and put it on Boss Rootin's arm? | ||
| You know? | ||
| I have female wellness on my arm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it was embarrassing, but to get my arm back, I had to go to the female wellness center and get... | ||
| I had to stick it in the vaginal rejuvenation machine. | ||
| Hey, whatever works, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if it did work, that's probably one of the first places they would use it on. | ||
| There's a lot of things that we could use female wellness on. | ||
| Just calling it female wellness is hilarious. | ||
| Female wellness. | ||
| Definitely a cool term. | ||
| How many women know what you're talking about? | ||
| If you talk about like women's health issues, you go, oh abortion. | ||
| You know, like women's rights, oh abortion. | ||
| I know you're talking about abortion, but you say women's rights. | ||
| Like when it comes to like women's health rights, reproductive rights, we're really talking not just about birth control pills, but also about abortion. | ||
| So if you say women's reproductive rights, immediately people think abortion. | ||
| But if you say feminine wellness, You don't think? | ||
| I think like breast cancer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what pops up in my head. | ||
| Yeah, I would think. | ||
| But it's deeper than that. | ||
| Rejuvenation, man. | ||
| They're using it in a weird way. | ||
| They kind of co-opted that term. | ||
| Feminine wellness. | ||
| It's important, bro. | ||
| It is important. | ||
| It is important. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Confidence is everything, man. | ||
| Confidence is everything. | ||
| And if you know you got a rejuvenated pussy, just put the sparkle in your eye. | ||
| There's no denying. | ||
| Give you that pep in your step. | ||
| Just the way she struts. | ||
| I know she got the procedure done. | ||
| I'm going to ask her. | ||
| Don't ask her, bro. | ||
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Just... | |
| Girls will get pissed. | ||
| So what have you been doing in your spare time? | ||
| Do you get your pussy rejuvenated or anything? | ||
| They will never admit it to the end of time. | ||
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No. | |
| My mother's pussy is amazing. | ||
| She's 60. Everybody's pussy in my family is amazing. | ||
| We have amazing pussies. | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| Boy, this fucking conversation deteriorates. | ||
| There's another word on here for just a pelvic exam. | ||
| Another word for a pelvic exam? | ||
| I just googled wellness or whatever. | ||
| Female wellness exam is what popped up. | ||
| See, that makes sense. | ||
| Like a pelvic examination. | ||
| Checking you for issues. | ||
| Not tightening up your box. | ||
| I'm scared of that prostate thing that's coming. | ||
| Scary. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, you already did it? | ||
| The finger in the ass? | ||
| I had it for a physical. | ||
| For a physical, they had to put a finger in my ass. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Very uncomfortable. | ||
| The guy wasn't... | ||
| They just lube it up, stick it in there. | ||
| Yeah, I'm dreading it, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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For sure. | |
| It's weird. | ||
| People have problems, though. | ||
| You gotta be... | ||
| That prostate problem's a real issue with people. | ||
| Like, how many people have, like, ball cancer, prostate cancer? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My grandpa died from prostate cancer. | ||
| Whew. | ||
| Yeah, cancer scares the shit out of me. | ||
| And what scares the shit out of me is our society, like what we've created, is so awesome. | ||
| Like being in the city is amazing. | ||
| Being able to go to a restaurant is amazing. | ||
| Being able to fly on a plane, go across the country, look, all of a sudden we're in Florida. | ||
| It's all amazing. | ||
| The food that we eat, the fact that we get food anywhere, the fact that you can go to Wendy's and just pull right in and get a burger. | ||
| But what... | ||
| How much cost is that on our biology, all that amazing stuff? | ||
| How bad is it to be in a polluted area? | ||
| Like, how bad is it? | ||
| Well, life expectancy is actually the highest it's ever been, though. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Because people have great medicine and procedures, and they catch things early. | ||
| They're really good at treating cancer. | ||
| But how good are we at recognizing what's causing that stuff? | ||
| How much of it is diet? | ||
| How much of it is nutritional deficiencies in your diet? | ||
| A lot of it. | ||
| I think what is the number one killer is heart disease, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, I think heart disease, which is also connected to obesity in a lot of folks. | ||
| Is that the number one killer? | ||
| Oh, cigarettes. | ||
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Terrible. | |
| The fact that that's still around. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| When I was a kid... | ||
| When I was like 15, I smoked a cigarette once with my sister. | ||
| My sister, she kept smoking for a few years after that, but it was a couple friends. | ||
| We just moved into this neighborhood, and I'm like, I'll try it. | ||
| And I was like, this is so crazy. | ||
| Like, the fact that anybody wants to smoke this. | ||
| Yeah, I tried it. | ||
| That first pull, like, I felt like I was going to die. | ||
| And you're voluntarily, and what are you getting out of it? | ||
| You getting, like, a little buzz? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You get a little bit of a buzz. | ||
| That's why I don't understand some people who smoke cigarettes, I'm like, why don't you just smoke weed? | ||
| Like, you actually get something out of it. | ||
| Like, cigarettes, you just sit there and die. | ||
| But I felt you get, like, kind of an opposite thing out of it. | ||
| Because with cigarettes, you get a, ah, fuck it feeling. | ||
| Like, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Who gives a fuck? | ||
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The, fuck it. | |
| I've never felt that, man. | ||
|
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No? | |
| That's what I got. | ||
| I never got that. | ||
| This article came out like seven days ago, or earlier this month, about building near freeways in LA. They're not supposed to build within 500 feet of a freeway, but they definitely do. | ||
| LA keeps building near freeways even though living there makes people sick. | ||
| Are you one of the 2.5 million Southern Californians already living in the pollution zone? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, when I pass on the 405, and there's those, look at this, Jesus Christ. | ||
| People there suffer higher rates of asthma, heart attacks, strokes, lung cancer, and preterm births. | ||
| Recent research has added more health risks to the list, including childhood obesity, autism, and dementia. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| See, that's when you click that recent research button and see what they talk about. | ||
| Boy. | ||
| Yeah, there's apartment buildings like right off the 405 when you're driving towards like Santa Monica. | ||
| And I'm like, that is like, you're living right there. | ||
| Especially in LA, man. | ||
| Y'all don't go nowhere. | ||
| It's just like, it's just 15 miles an hour everywhere, man. | ||
| Choking in it. | ||
| Do you like living in Texas? | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| Where are you going to settle? | ||
| I haven't figured that one out yet. | ||
| I was thinking around Denver. | ||
| I heard Denver was super dope. | ||
| That's a spot. | ||
| Yeah, I heard a buddy that just moved from Denver to LA, and he's just like, man, it's just dead over there. | ||
| I gotta be alive. | ||
| Oh, he's crazy. | ||
| I feel you, man. | ||
| Dead, man. | ||
| Go to the mountains, bitch. | ||
| Go see the mountains. | ||
| He's not an outdoors dude. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Well, it's definitely dead in terms of city action. | ||
| It's nothing like it is out here. | ||
| Denver's interesting, though. | ||
| Denver's had legal weed for a long time because they basically weren't arresting people for it for the longest time. | ||
| They had kind of said like a state or a citywide thing that they weren't going to arrest people. | ||
| Like when I first came there, it's like, I don't remember what year, but I've been working at the Comedy Works in Denver for a long time. | ||
| And when I first went there, they were like, yeah, they don't arrest people for weed. | ||
| I went, what? | ||
| Like, yeah, they passed something in the city where they don't arrest people for weed in the city. | ||
| I'm like, that's crazy, but this is Colorado. | ||
| Like, I thought of Colorado as, like, cowboys, like, what do you think of Wyoming? | ||
| Like, Republicans and real strict, but Denver was never like that. | ||
| It's like a weird... | ||
| It's a weird town, man. | ||
| I mean, you know a lot about this. | ||
| What started the movement in Denver to go towards progression? | ||
| Well, I think the statewide movement of Colorado making marijuana legal and being the first state along with Washington state, I think Colorado people don't like people telling them what the fuck to do. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| I mean, they're rugged people. | ||
| You gotta realize, if your family made it to Colorado, like in the 1800s or whatever, you got some rugged genes. | ||
| Is that deep? | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| Those people moved there. | ||
| There's a core group of people that settled in Colorado during the Gold Rush. | ||
| Manifest Destiny? | ||
| Yeah, man, when people came over and they wanted homestead, get blocks of land, and you stay on it for a few years, and you can get to own it. | ||
| Yeah, man, that shit all happened. | ||
| And those were the gold rush people, man. | ||
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Right? | |
| I mean, wasn't that where Colorado was originally settled? | ||
| Wasn't it? | ||
| California was, right? | ||
| California's the gold rush. | ||
| Like, why the fuck did people go to Colorado? | ||
| That's why I have no idea. | ||
| Well, Google, when was Denver established? | ||
| I'm gonna guess. | ||
| I'm gonna take a guess. | ||
| I'm gonna say it was like the 1700s. | ||
| No, I'm gonna go after that. | ||
| 1800s? | ||
| 1850? | ||
| 1858. Holy shit. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| That was really good. | ||
| That was pretty good, I bet. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| So, think about that. | ||
| What kind of gangsters were traveling across the country at 1850? | ||
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Outlaws. | |
| You know, you had to be a bad motherfucker to get across the country. | ||
| If you live here, right, in California, the same thing holds true. | ||
| Like, the people that first got here, like in the 17, 1800s, whatever it was, and that first settled here. | ||
| But then everybody comes in here, and all the actors, and it's just the gene pool's watered down. | ||
| But in Denver, that gene pool's not watered down. | ||
| You got a bunch of people who moved there, but the original DNA... Is of just gangsters who came over here to try to make it in the Wild West. | ||
| So that's interesting. | ||
| So you're saying the liberalism of the move from East to West and the gene pool of not giving a fuck. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be that. | ||
| There's definitely something to it. | ||
| Because if you think about it, all the really... | ||
| There's a giant group of immigrants on the East Coast of this country and there's also like a hostility that's almost like ancient on the East Coast of the country that's different from the hostility on the West Coast. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It's like an ancient, sort of, like, shitty way people get along with each other in New York. | ||
| And you could attribute it to the... | ||
| Call it that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You could attribute it to the weather. | ||
| You know, you could attribute it to the overpopulation. | ||
| Everybody just on a tie and on top of each other. | ||
| Yeah, you could. | ||
| You could attribute it to that. | ||
| I think, and both things could be possibly true. | ||
| But there's other spots, like, you go to Canada and the weather's horrible. | ||
| Like, Toronto has crazy traffic and a lot of people, and they're nice as hell. | ||
| I heard, yeah. | ||
| I went to Canada once. | ||
| They're so nice. | ||
| So nice. | ||
| So, I don't know what it is, but I think it has something to do with the fact that the original people that came there were these hardscrabble people that were trying to make it by getting on a boat and traveling across the ocean to a land that they really didn't know much about. | ||
| I mean, they might have known someone here. | ||
| They might have had an uncle or family members, and they were going to try to settle. | ||
| I mean, those were gangster people. | ||
| You have to be so... | ||
| And then the people that were sick of those people, like, fuck this, we're gonna keep going. | ||
| And they kept going west. | ||
| And then in 1858, they settled in Denver. | ||
| I mean, those were rugged people, man. | ||
| So, when you see that city there, and that city's embraced by the Rocky Mountains, so you have this constant natural beauty around you. | ||
| It's like a little bowl to itself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, and... | ||
| It's a bowl, and you look out your window, like if you stay in a hotel in Denver, you look out the window, you're like, whoa. | ||
| You see the Rocky Mountains, you're like, holy shit. | ||
| It's a real clean city, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's stupid. | ||
| I was walking downtown. | ||
| It's like, they keep it up here. | ||
| They do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's also like, you have to be a certain kind of person to be able to survive that winter. | ||
| You know, you gotta be the kind of person that can just fucking tolerate shit and still show up at work and get things done. | ||
| You can't be a baby. | ||
| Out here you could be a baby. | ||
| Out here you could be like, I don't like to go out when it rains because all the oil on the road. | ||
| It's like, people don't know how to drive in it. | ||
| It's like, I'm not doing this. | ||
| It's like, I'm gonna call in and I'm gonna say, in Colorado they have to go to work on black ice. | ||
| People just sliding around on each other like bumper cars. | ||
| Fast Fury, Fast and the Furious in it. | ||
| You ever hit black ice when you're driving? | ||
| I've never hit black ice. | ||
| I don't really like the cold, so I'm one of the whiny people. | ||
| I don't want to be getting out, man. | ||
| Well, you don't have to like the cold. | ||
| That's the thing, man. | ||
| Especially a guy like you. | ||
| If you've proven yourself so physically tough, nobody could ever say that the reason why you don't like the cold is because you're a pussy. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I just don't like cold. | ||
| I don't like the cold. | ||
| Yeah, I'm definitely not a pussy. | ||
| That's why I was a fucking... | ||
| Definitely not that. | ||
| That's why I was a famous football player, bitch. | ||
| All right? | ||
| I'm not a pussy. | ||
| I'm just not stupid. | ||
| I don't want to be cold. | ||
| But see, I also don't like being hot, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you tell those people, why don't you just be cold all the time? | ||
| If you're such a badass, why wear clothes? | ||
| What, you need to be warm, you fucking pussy? | ||
| Oh, sometimes you need to be a pussy. | ||
| But right now you don't? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Like, people who live in San Diego, like, one of the things that you'll talk to about, you know, I have a bunch of buddies who live in San Diego, and you ask them about it, like, why do you live in San Diego? | ||
| They're like, it's never shitty here. | ||
| Yeah, it's beautiful. | ||
| The weather's perfect, always. | ||
| Why would you move? | ||
| I went to high school down there. | ||
| What part? | ||
| Mission Bay. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| And Mission Beach area, so... | ||
| You know what's the craziest part? | ||
| It's La Jolla. | ||
| They got a comedy store out there. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| And they got these mansions that overlook the ocean. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And everybody's on pills. | ||
| La Jolla is like... | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| La Jolla is like a different... | ||
| It's a different area. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's too much money. | ||
| It's so much money out there, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's too much money. | ||
| Whenever you get too much money in an area, it's just like... | ||
| Yeah, nobody knows what to do. | ||
| Oh, they know what to do. | ||
| Yeah, but they get crazy. | ||
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That's... | |
| You start buying yachts and snorting coke and... | ||
| On the yacht. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Woo! | |
| They get crazy, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I can't do the water either, though. | ||
| That Coronado Island, that's a crazy rich island, right? | ||
| White sand. | ||
| Does it have white sand? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| White people and white sand. | ||
| That's usually the case. | ||
| Where there's white sand, there's white people. | ||
| White people go, this is ours. | ||
| Plant the flag, Melvin. | ||
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White sand to go with my white soul, my white spirit. | |
| Yeah, that Coronado Island, there's a bunch of fucking, like, I think Donald Rumsfeld lives there. | ||
| It's one of those places. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's exclusive for sure. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| It's like away from San Diego. | ||
| You actually have to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You could drive there, though, right? | ||
| Yeah, you could drive. | ||
| You could drive over some crazy bridge. | ||
| Coronado Bridge. | ||
| They probably have dynamite on the bridge just in case fucking riots break out. | ||
| The peasants! | ||
| Release the bridge! | ||
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Boom! | |
| It's so weird. | ||
| Like, the dogs out there, they're so friendly. | ||
| Everything is just... | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Well, that was one of the things you said when you're talking about being able to take a wolf. | ||
| You're like, I grew up with stray pit bulls around. | ||
| I knew how to handle myself. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you had to. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Sometimes you had to kick them and run, or kick them in the legs, and they'd limp. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So you had to maneuver sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes I just used to outrun them. | ||
| It's tough, but it's like... | ||
| I'm new to the whole dog thing, so I got a dog. | ||
| I got a husky. | ||
| I used to be fearful of dogs. | ||
| Not fearful in the sense that I was scared it was going to kill me. | ||
| I just didn't want to have to fight a dog. | ||
| That's not in me, right? | ||
| That's a crazy thing to have to worry about. | ||
| I got bit in the face when I was seven. | ||
| My uncle, he was staying with us at the time, and he had dogs. | ||
| For like two weeks, I never had a problem before. | ||
| I was like eight. | ||
| I never had a problem before, so I was walking back from school. | ||
| All of a sudden I walk up, just happy, and I hear a rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr It was weird, man. | ||
| And so ever since then, I didn't fuck with dogs at all. | ||
| Like, I hated them. | ||
| And then we had this one pit that, like, I swear after a while, it's like, dog, I walk by your fence every day. | ||
| Like, get it together, man. | ||
| But, like, I used to... | ||
| Run from him, run from so many different... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It probably became a game for him. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Many different times he walked by and he still couldn't get you. | ||
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Like, one day, this motherfucker's gonna come by and I'm gonna get him. | |
| I'm gonna figure my way through this fucking fence and I'm gonna get him. | ||
| And they got nothing else to do. | ||
| This is what I found out about dogs. | ||
| So I finally was like, I was 29 years old, I was like, I gotta get over this fear. | ||
| Like, I gotta get a dog and see what it's all about. | ||
| So I got a husky. | ||
| Cutest little thing ever. | ||
| And after a while, I started... | ||
| Understand the dogs more and you understand that they're really only pieces of shit if their owners are pieces of shit. | ||
| And so like the dog directly reflects its owner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so now I understand like growing up in the neighborhoods I grew up nobody has time or money to care for the dog like they should. | ||
| So they're ornery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just like the people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just like the people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So as president, what's your first move? | ||
| Remember, I'm not gonna be your vice president, but I'll be like... | ||
| You're gonna be in my cabinet somehow, man. | ||
| Do you watch House of Cards? | ||
| Do you watch House of Cards? | ||
| I haven't seen that. | ||
| I heard it was a good one, though. | ||
| I'll be like the dude who got fucked up by the hooker. | ||
| You're gonna be my Sean Spicer, man. | ||
| But I won't be involved in any of that. | ||
| No, Sean Spicer, that fucking dude, he has to take the hits. | ||
| He has to go up there and say the bullshit that he knows is not true. | ||
| That's what I need you to do, bro. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| You know what I do do it, though? | ||
| I'll let the people know. | ||
| When I'm lying, I'll just wear a fake mustache. | ||
| So I'll give the same press conference and I'll have a fake mustache. | ||
| Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Put it on mid-sentence. | ||
| The president has alerted me of this important news. | ||
| You know the first thing I probably do? | ||
| I probably pardon people in jail for a week. | ||
| Oh yeah, good for you. | ||
| It has nothing to do with me being here and you fucking with me. | ||
| But it's like, it's such a problem. | ||
| It's such a problem. | ||
| Yeah, the president pardoned Chelsea Manning, right? | ||
| Didn't Obama pardon Chelsea Manning? | ||
| I don't think he pardoned him. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Commuted her sentence? | ||
| Commuted her sentence, yeah. | ||
| So pardon means you're exonerated of any guilt, whereas commuted your sentence is just... | ||
| So he's allowed to pardon a bunch of people though, right? | ||
| Does he get like 20 pardons or something like that? | ||
| No. | ||
| There's a limit though? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think there's a limit. | ||
| I thought it was like comps. | ||
| Like, you know, if you work at a comedy club, you get 20 comps on Saturday night. | ||
| My friends want to come to the show. | ||
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Can you save table five? | |
| 1927. Good for him. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Convicted of federal crimes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Pardon, commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He should have did... | ||
| List of the people. | ||
| List of the people. | ||
| Click the list. | ||
| Let's find out who the lists are. | ||
| He should have did Asada Shakur. | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| Oh, is that Tupac's mom? | ||
| No. | ||
| She was an activist back when the Black Panthers were rising. | ||
| I think she got political asylum in Cuba. | ||
| I think it was the FBI that was after her. | ||
| This was when the FBI was treating the Black Panthers like a terrorist organization. | ||
| They were offing Huey P. Newton. | ||
| It was a big deal. | ||
| I think she's still on the run. | ||
| Whoa, where is she? | ||
| Don't tell me. | ||
| Don't say it out loud. | ||
| Don't find her. | ||
| What were they accusing her of? | ||
| That I couldn't tell you, man. | ||
| There was a whole bunch of conspiracies back then. | ||
| Do you remember when Obama was running for president and they found out that he was friends with a professor in Chicago that was one of the weathermen? | ||
| I don't remember that. | ||
| The Weathermen was a documentary that I watched. | ||
| My friend Duncan called me up. | ||
| Dude, you gotta see this. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
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They were taking acid and robbing banks and having orgies together. | |
| And I was like, what? | ||
| Obama? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| It was the Weathermen. | ||
| It was this group, this radical group in the 1970s that was trying to overthrow the government. | ||
| And they were just a bunch of crazy people. | ||
| And they were doing acid. | ||
| And one of them wound up being a professor one day. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Bill Ayers. | ||
| And the 2008 presidential election controversy. | ||
| So this guy was one of the members of the Weathermen. | ||
| And he went from being, you know, essentially an anti-government terrorist to being a college professor. | ||
| And it was a college professor, right? | ||
| What does it say here? | ||
| My eyes are way too shitty to read that. | ||
| Yeah, I was trying to read what it says. | ||
| I don't know if... | ||
| It confirms or denies what was happening. | ||
| But it was a big deal. | ||
| Yeah, it says here the Weathermen, right there, is a committee heading the Weathermen starting at its creation the summer of 1969. The hippie movement, man. | ||
| Well, yeah, sort of a hippie movement, but like a lot of hippie movements. | ||
| We need another one of those. | ||
| But a lot of those hippie movements. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| Who claimed that those three members of the Weathermen who had died during the accidental explosion while assembling... | ||
| Oh, they were trying to blow shit up, man. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's like the Project Mayhem thing and Fight Club, that kind of idea. | ||
| Yeah, they were trying to blow buildings up and shit. | ||
| So he apparently knew Obama. | ||
| So he was just like this real super radical lefty, probably did some time, got out, became a college professor. | ||
| I mean, did he go, did he do time? | ||
| I'm trying to figure out the thing that, how Obama was connected to him. | ||
| I think Obama just knew him. | ||
| You know, it was like one of those things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obama contacts with heirs. | ||
| Cross paths while biking in the same neighborhood or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, what's the big deal about that? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think there's more than that. | ||
| I think they had some sort of a cordial friendship and there was a concern that he was connected to a guy who used to be. | ||
| But the guy was free now, right? | ||
| So like, what kind of mistakes have people made when they're 18 that you can exonerate them from when they're 50? | ||
| You know, isn't there like a certain limit to the amount of time that you have to be, you know? | ||
| I mean, can you be held responsible for some shit that you did when you were 18? | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| That's the tough about the murder thing. | ||
| The weather underground. | ||
| That's what they call themselves. | ||
| That's not the weatherman. | ||
| The weather underground. | ||
| If you kill somebody at 16, 15 years old, like, life... | ||
| Like, I'm not... | ||
| It's just a tough subject, like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, because I had this argument the other day, like, how subjective morality is. | ||
| And it's kind of all just based on... | ||
| Super subjective, right? | ||
| Your life experiences and opinions. | ||
| Well, how about war? | ||
| Subjective. | ||
| You're allowing people to go over and do it, and then you salute them and say, thank you for killing those people. | ||
| I've always been super... | ||
| I've had cognitive dissonance about that. | ||
| Because we've normalized it to the point where you hear casualty of war is a normal term. | ||
| But those are like innocent civilians being murdered. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| And then there's the attitude that they have to die in order to serve the greater good. | ||
| Some casual observers have to accidentally be killed at some collateral damage. | ||
| Yeah, that shit makes... | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| Yeah, it really is, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, and the idea is that if we don't do that, we will lose whatever Head start on civilization we have over the rest of the world. | ||
| We just start all over. | ||
| How we do that? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
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That sounds like something people say after they smoke pot. | |
| It's real shit, man. | ||
| We just start all over. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| I know. | ||
| We should be able to, right? | ||
| But how would we? | ||
| What would we do? | ||
| I feel like we got enough technology and enough smart people to just sit around and say, all right, man, this ain't working. | ||
| I totally agree. | ||
| We definitely have enough resources to feed everybody. | ||
| Well, we certainly are close. | ||
| I think we have. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's a matter of figuring out where to put it and whether or not we should be eating the same shit we're already eating. | ||
| Because, you know... | ||
| If you look at all the different people that are living in this country eating corn products, just that alone, why is that the case? | ||
| Why is corn in so many different things? | ||
| It's not because it's good for you. | ||
| It's not because we're doing the best job. | ||
| It grows in abundance, right? | ||
| Well, you can grow massive amounts of it in these fields, and the government subsidizes it, and then it becomes a whole entangled sort of a system where the farmers are growing it. | ||
| And if they didn't have a subsidy from the government, it wouldn't be profitable, but it is profitable. | ||
| And then the government... | ||
| You know, they know that those places, they gotta count on those folks when it comes to like elections and things along those lines. | ||
| See, that's when it starts getting messy, man. | ||
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Woo! | |
| It gets entangled. | ||
| It gets messy, man. | ||
| Yeah, so do we have enough to feed each other with the way we're eating now? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| But we shouldn't be eating the way we're eating now. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| Yeah, for sure we have enough food to feed people the way we eat now. | ||
| But we should be eating at Whole Foods. | ||
| When you go to Whole Foods, it's like, oh man, you gotta be rich and shop here. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| It's food! | ||
| It's fucking real food, you know? | ||
| Organic shit. | ||
| I don't really understand that whole thing either. | ||
| Well, I mean, it just means they don't have pesticides on it, right? | ||
| Well, everything is organic. | ||
| Philosophically, you can make that argument. | ||
| Everything is organic. | ||
| Even if we tamper with it, we're organic. | ||
| We're from the earth. | ||
| Poison's natural. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, everything that you make is made out of something on earth. | ||
| So anything that's artificial or chemical or whatever the fuck it is, it's still made out of raw materials that are found here on earth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, some organic food is better for you, probably, because it doesn't have chemicals on it. | ||
| And the idea of GMO is where it gets real weird, because almost everything's genetically modified. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My stepdad's the one that hit me to that. | ||
| He's a geneticist. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Yeah, PhD. | ||
| He actually developed one of the first strands for the Tyson chicken. | ||
| He's like a badass. | ||
| Dude, he's making frankenchicken. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| I mean, I couldn't tell you. | ||
| He got a chicken to fuck a turkey. | ||
| He gets residuals for it. | ||
| That's what he did. | ||
| I don't know what he did. | ||
| He tells us stories about how you can genetically modify chickens without feathers and all this stuff. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy, man. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Gene splicing shit is amazing to me. | ||
| Have you heard of CRISPR? Yes. | ||
| Now that shit is... | ||
| So you open that Pandora's box of, once you genetically modify a human, you can't go backwards. | ||
| They've already started to do it with embryos in China. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they're starting to do it with non-viable human embryos. | ||
| So they're taking non-viable human embryos and they're doing all these genetic experiments on them and altering their genes. | ||
| But the thing is, What it is now is it's like the baby steps towards something that will probably be just... | ||
| It's going to be standard maybe 100 years from now. | ||
| I think that's the next step in our evolutionary history. | ||
| What is this, Jamie? | ||
| It's a python breeder. | ||
| Genetically bred a python to have an emoji on it. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I'm seeing it. | ||
| I didn't see it. | ||
| It's got smiley faces all over it. | ||
| This is fucking insane. | ||
| How did he do that? | ||
| Just breeding. | ||
| I think he said it took like eight generations of breeding and I can sell this. | ||
| It's worth $4,500 as opposed to like the $40 it might have been worth initially. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| That's so cool. | ||
| That is so cool looking. | ||
| Emoji pythons. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And that's crazy because that's just done through breeding, like how to make a husky out of a wolf. | ||
| That's done through breeding. | ||
| What you're talking about with chickens that don't have any feathers, that's some serious science. | ||
| So it goes deep to the point of... | ||
| Like, how far are the restraints of our humanity and what humanity is? | ||
| So if you genetically modify humans to the point where you take out the genes that is the cancer gene and you take out the genes of this and that and to the point of we're living our health expectancy or the life expectancy goes up exponentially. | ||
| Like, would it be moral to not take those genes out of your kids? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| This is a good question. | ||
| And then, yeah, the people that would be like, look, I know my kid's going to have a disease, but that's what God intended. | ||
| Like, whoa. | ||
| And to me, that shit is... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But it's also debatable, right? | ||
| I mean, the reason why they have that opinion in the first place is because, like, I guess you could argue it, even if I don't agree with it, you could argue that opinion. | ||
| And that's one of the weirdest things about people. | ||
| There's so much messiness to us when it comes to something like that, like some new technology. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a crazy technology. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can make a super kid. | ||
| Like you can make your kid seven feet tall, 400 pounds, solid muscle, runs through walls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or make him a little pussy. | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| You want your kid to be a pussy? | ||
| What if they only have two models? | ||
| Like if you have a Prius or a Mustang Shelby. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| One of the two. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Oh, just take the Prius. | ||
| My kid is just going to read a lot of books. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| My kid's running through buildings. | ||
| Nah, man, I'm going to take the Prius, man. | ||
| Would you? | ||
| Well, you already ran through buildings. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| My opinion's skewed. | ||
| Yeah, you should probably write a book on how not to play football. | ||
| It might not be a bad book coming from a guy like you. | ||
| People would definitely read it. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| If I had to do it again, I'd never play football. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe that would be your book. | ||
| But see, you started when you were seven, man. | ||
| How the fuck could you know? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, I had no... | ||
| Whose idea was it? | ||
| It was ours. | ||
| Me and my brother. | ||
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So you're just like, fuck it, let's play football. | |
| It's fun! | ||
| You're a fan of it as a kid. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Playing sports is fun. | ||
| It's fun to watch. | ||
| But the camaraderie you got from it, I love the life experiences I got. | ||
| I just feel like I have so much more to me than that. | ||
| I don't want to say wasted because it was a grand experience, but I just put so much time into my life that ended in an instant. | ||
| I don't want to say wasted time, but it just feels like a lot of... | ||
| Things that I feel like could still be benefiting me to this day. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| Now I'm going to say something that whenever I say it, people get mad at me. | ||
| But I have to say it. | ||
| You should start a podcast. | ||
| I should start a podcast. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| You definitely should start a podcast. | ||
| Don't you think so, Jamie? | ||
| People are like, fucking Rogan! | ||
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Stop telling everybody to have a podcast! | |
| Interesting people should have podcasts. | ||
| Your story's interesting. | ||
| You know, the whole thing that you're doing right now is interesting. | ||
| Trying to figure out who the fuck you are at 30 years of age after being a famous football player and thinking you could fuck a wolf up with your bare hands. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| It's not thinking. | ||
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You're just going to judge me. | |
| Jump on it right now. | ||
| You gotta jump into five, man. | ||
| No, I've thought about it, talked about it with some other people, but it's like, I don't know. | ||
| You don't even have to do it, like, all the time. | ||
| You can do it whenever you want. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, people are under no obligation to get it every day. | ||
| It's not like you're forcing them to, like, okay, look, I'm gonna sign a contract. | ||
| You guys pay me X amount of money. | ||
| I'm gonna do this every Monday. | ||
| Do it whenever you want. | ||
| You do it on your phone. | ||
| I'll show you how to do it on your phone. | ||
| It's fucking easy. | ||
| I got a laptop, man. | ||
| We can't. | ||
| But I mean, if you're somewhere, I'm saying if you're somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, like right now, if we wanted to, I could set my phone down here, press the voice recorder, and I'm telling you, it sounds good. | ||
| Like this idea that you need a lot of equipment to do a podcast, not really. | ||
| I mean, it sounds better. | ||
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You're just ahead of the game. | |
| You keep killing the game. | ||
| Step one, step ahead of the freaks. | ||
| I walked in the building and I was like, this is just for podcasts. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Well, just wait till the next one. | ||
| After we build Studio Dose. | ||
| I gotta come back, man. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Freak Party World Headquarters. | ||
| We're having it constructed right now. | ||
| Freak Party World Headquarters. | ||
| Freak Party World Headquarters is where the next building is going down. | ||
| That's good praise, man. | ||
| You're one of the best doing it, for sure, man. | ||
| Well, thanks, man. | ||
| You can do it, for sure. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Like, you can do stand-up, too. | ||
| If you want to do that, you can do that. | ||
| I'm gonna give it a go, man. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I got it. | ||
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I like it. | |
| The stand-up thing. | ||
| I don't know about the podcast. | ||
| Well, Brendan Schaub's doing it. | ||
| My friend Brendan Schaub, he played... | ||
| What did he play for? | ||
| He got to... | ||
| He played preseason with the Bills, I think. | ||
| And he fought in the UFC. He was on the Ultimate Fighter, and he fought in the UFC. He had some big wins in the UFC. Now he has a podcast. | ||
| Real successful. | ||
| Two podcasts. | ||
| Fighter and the Kid, and he does this thing called the Big Brown Breakdown, where he goes over all the different fights that are coming up. | ||
| And now he's doing stand-up. | ||
| So he went from fighting, deciding as an athlete, like he was getting towards the end of his run, Left fighting and then now is like way more successful doing his podcast and doing stand-up and doing live podcast shows so he could do it and you talk way better than him no offense Man, I appreciate it, man. | ||
| He's like, what the fuck, bro? | ||
| You threw me under the bus! | ||
| I was kidding! | ||
| He's a funny dude, man. | ||
| Brendan's really funny. | ||
| He says hilarious shit. | ||
| But you can do it, too, man. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| The beautiful thing about podcasting, too, is that you don't have to be anything. | ||
| You could be funny, or you could be smart, or you could be interesting. | ||
| It's whoever you are. | ||
| And just like that stupid box on the ground at the L.A. County Museum of Art, Some people might like that. | ||
| Some people might like that. | ||
| No matter who you are, some people... | ||
| I'm not saying that you would be that box. | ||
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Metaphorically, you are an amber box in your own right. | |
| I should have gone with hot food because I'm a hot food fan. | ||
| I'm not a fan of that box, but I'm saying some people fucking hate hot food, right? | ||
| I don't understand those people. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You bring some people hot food, they freak out. | ||
| They like mashed potatoes. | ||
| That's what they like. | ||
| Mashed potatoes and boiled chicken. | ||
| Boiled chicken. | ||
| I like boiled chicken. | ||
| Disrespectful. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Soup. | ||
| Chicken soup is boiled chicken. | ||
| You gotta grill it at least first and then just throw it in there when it's done, man. | ||
| No. | ||
| Mine ain't a cook like you. | ||
| I seen you be... | ||
| I cook, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you... | ||
| I cook a few things. | ||
| Do your little... | ||
| But the... | ||
| Yeah, what did that come from? | ||
| That's the meh. | ||
| Salt Bae. | ||
| Salt Bae. | ||
| Yeah, I'll look at him. | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| Well, listen, here's what's crazy. | ||
| That picture has been redone. | ||
| Think about all the images on the internet. | ||
| This is a beautiful place. | ||
| And this one dude who's like, what is he doing? | ||
| You saw the original? | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| This is the original. | ||
| He's like a cook in Turkey or somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, he's in Turkey. | ||
| I thought he was in... | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| He's cutting this steak, and he's doing it with all this flair, and every time he cuts it, he slaps his knife on the table. | ||
| But he does it with so much swag. | ||
| Yeah, he's slicing through. | ||
| I bet this guy gets so much pussy wherever he lives. | ||
| It's not even close. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because this is part of the... | ||
| I mean, this is like the Latin lover romantic chef character. | ||
| So he gets to the end. | ||
| Look at that swag. | ||
| He could just lay them out, but he... | ||
| Yeah, and then he takes this. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| He throws some, he sprinkles some salt on it. | ||
| That became that one thing. | ||
| A guy sprinkling salt became a meme that just kept over and over and over again. | ||
| You know what it was, man? | ||
| It was black Twitter. | ||
| Was that what it was? | ||
| Black Twitter. | ||
| Black Twitter is probably the most... | ||
| There needs to be a documentary about that. | ||
| There should be. | ||
| Because it pushes so much of our culture. | ||
| It's the funny... | ||
| Black Twitter does. | ||
| Black Twitter does. | ||
| Jamie says that people steal from Black Twitter and then do it on, like, a Tonight Show. | ||
| Movies, TV shows all the time. | ||
| TV shows all the time. | ||
| SNL. SNL steals from Black Twitter? | ||
| All the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| So it's just hashtag? | ||
| Black Twitter? | ||
| You just gotta look for a hashtag? | ||
| So there's certain... | ||
| I can't even 100% explain what it is, but it's... | ||
| Well, someone's gotta help me. | ||
| I got you, man. | ||
| So how about this? | ||
| I'll give you like five or six accounts to follow, and you'll kind of get a feel for what it is. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| And then I follow accounts that those people interact with. | ||
| Yeah, and then you see... | ||
| So a lot of the content that you see, you know the Jordan cry face meme? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Black Twitter. | ||
| They move culture, man. | ||
| I say we because I'm on Twitter and I'm black, so I partake. | ||
| It's ignorance at a very high level, but there's brilliance involved. | ||
| It's the coolest shit. | ||
| What's the brilliance? | ||
| The humor? | ||
| The humor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, as you know, a lot of humor is intellect. | ||
| Wit is intellect. | ||
| And so the brilliance that comes from that is just the funniest shit. | ||
| Alright, I'm going to check it out. | ||
| Jamie's very well educated on black Twitter. | ||
| You know about black Twitter, yeah. | ||
| He buys Yeezys. | ||
| See, I can never get him. | ||
| Well, Jamie has to go online. | ||
| Yeezy's not on Black Twitter. | ||
| No, he's not. | ||
| If he was... | ||
| Yeezy's been ousted, man. | ||
| He'll be rough. | ||
| That's my dude, though, man. | ||
| Well, they ousted him, and then he immediately started producing an anti-Trump record. | ||
| He recognized what the fuck went down. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| He deleted all his pro-Trump tweets. | ||
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Did he? | |
| All of them are gone. | ||
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There you go. | |
| And now he's producing some anti... | ||
| But he hired... | ||
| He got another rapper like, hey, man... | ||
| How about you do this song? | ||
| He's helping the dude. | ||
| Fuck yeah, he felt it. | ||
| He's up there on a platform hovering over people saying he would have voted on Trump. | ||
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Yeah, that's crazy. | |
| No song. | ||
| That's propaganda. | ||
| It's propaganda. | ||
| That's what he says. | ||
| He did delete the tweets, I think. | ||
| It's fake news. | ||
| I bet it's not fake news. | ||
| I bet nobody wants to talk about it. | ||
| I bet he's reconsidering. | ||
| I bet Donald Troll them up. | ||
| Kanye! | ||
| Kanye, I thought you liked Trump! | ||
| I thought you loved Trump! | ||
| It was called propaganda, but he didn't produce it. | ||
| Did he have anything to do with it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think there's a bunch of white people scrambling right now. | ||
| We need to keep this money flowing, Kanye! | ||
| Kanye! | ||
| Kanye! | ||
| That's usually the case, man. | ||
| Listen, man, this has been a lot of fun. | ||
| I really appreciate you coming down here. | ||
| I'm glad we did it. | ||
| I'm glad it all came out of something silly. | ||
| And props to Neil Brennan for setting this up. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate it, man. | ||
| It was really fun. | ||
| And I hope you do a podcast. | ||
| I would listen. | ||
| You gotta come on, then. |
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