March 6, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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And we're live. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you doing over there, Joey? | ||
| Just looking at your book. | ||
| I've been reading that book lately that's messing with my head. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| I even talked about it on the podcast, The War of Art. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, yeah. | |
| About resistance. | ||
| So now I catch myself. | ||
| Every time I want to do something, I catch myself. | ||
| I've been practicing to look at the resistance levels that comes up. | ||
| Like different things I need to do. | ||
| I want to see what excuse I give myself. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a normal thing, right? | ||
| Normal. | ||
| Mr. Galazzi. | ||
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unidentified
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How are you? | |
| Hawaii, brother. | ||
| Very nice to meet you, man. | ||
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unidentified
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My pleasure. | |
| Thanks for coming on here, man. | ||
| I hear fantastic things about you from Joey, from other people. | ||
| So Joey insisted. | ||
| He's like, you gotta get this guy in here, dawg. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| He's a fucking wizard. | ||
| What he did for my shoulders. | ||
| What did he do for your shoulders? | ||
| You know, I've been going to Alberto, and Alberto is the man in Burbank for tactical fitness. | ||
| They do it in the mornings and the afternoon, but the one kid, Coach Robert, you know, he would just, after class, he would say, Joey, what are you going to do? | ||
| Are you going to go home, or do you want to do this for a little while? | ||
| And at first, the first two weeks, the movements were difficult. | ||
| But then, you know, level one stuff, man. | ||
| Any age could do it if I could do it. | ||
| Just laying on the back, lifting your hips and spinning over on your toes and doing it back. | ||
| And at first, I couldn't even... | ||
| Look, Joe. | ||
| I couldn't move my elbows like that. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| My shoulders, my wrists. | ||
| And I kept staying for the 30-minute thing. | ||
| Five exercises, three minutes apiece. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| No drama. | ||
| You can be big, heavy. | ||
| It's all stuff I can do. | ||
| Picking up your leg, putting it under. | ||
| All body weight stuff? | ||
| All body weight stuff that I can handle. | ||
| If I can handle it on my wrist being 300 pounds, anybody can handle it. | ||
| Simple stuff. | ||
| And one day I was getting caught and the guy was pulling me into his guard and magically my hips flew up and I just mysteriously got into sight control and something made me look up and Alberto Crane's jaw dropped and he goes, that's from doing that stuff. | ||
| You couldn't do that when you walked in here. | ||
| But I kept going to these 30-minute things. | ||
| 30 minutes, five exercises, three minutes. | ||
| You're out of there at 1.45. | ||
| So is this a, like, do you have, like, a system that you bring to a bunch of different places and you have affiliates? | ||
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Is that how it works? | |
| Yeah, I mean, I'm... | ||
| Pull this right up to you. | ||
| All right, sorry. | ||
| It's the first time for me. | ||
| You've never done a podcast before? | ||
| No, never. | ||
| You speak fantastic English for someone who's from Italy. | ||
| Right, thanks. | ||
| I lived here years ago. | ||
| Years ago, yeah. | ||
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I got married years ago. | |
| Be careful, Trump might kick you out now. | ||
| You've got to be super careful. | ||
| I've already been out. | ||
| Back in Europe. | ||
| I'm representing this system that has been developed by Scott Sonnen. | ||
| Oh, Scott Sonnen. | ||
| So it's like Club Bells, a lot of that stuff? | ||
| We met each other a long time ago, in 1994. And then I was doing security contractor work, that was my line of business at the time. | ||
| I've always been involved in training, martial arts, and any kind of such training. | ||
| And, you know, all the injuries I got from competing and... | ||
| Normal way of lifting. | ||
| I've lost contact with him for a few years and then I saw him in 2000 coming out with the clubbers. | ||
| The clubbers really attracted me. | ||
| It was different tools. | ||
| I said, OK, I want to get back in contact with these guys. | ||
| I want to understand how things can help him. | ||
| So I went back to him and it blew my mind. | ||
| It blew my mind and helped me to get back in the best shape of my life. | ||
| I feel now I'm 47. I feel like I can move better, do things better than I used to do when I was 20. So I promised him, you know, I'm going to make these things happen in Europe. | ||
| You're my coach, you change my way to fitness and I'm going to do that. | ||
| So between my job and security, I was introducing this to my teams and then I see changing on people, people being able even to just to go moving easier, you know, and then Transfer to whatever it was, our training, handgun or whatever, skills and stuff, everything was easier. | ||
| So I started to believe. | ||
| I started to believe, basically, and I started to say, okay, I want to help more people that I can. | ||
| In my line of duty, in the army, because I still have a different contract as a consultant in the army back home, as a physical trainer, and sometimes also end-to-end combat training. | ||
| And I start to introduce these things from basic, right? | ||
| Because the system is very complex. | ||
| What Joe was talking about is all the mobility. | ||
| Yeah, mobility is a big factor. | ||
| It's a big factor because for so long, people have just been concentrating on getting strong or getting in great shape. | ||
| But, you know, I know people that are in fantastic shape. | ||
| They can run forever, but they can barely touch their toes. | ||
| And you develop these bodies that are severely limited in the amount of motion that you can actually get out of your body. | ||
| In certain motions, you're really good. | ||
| You might be explosive with a bench press. | ||
| You might have a great run. | ||
| But whatever else you're doing to your body, you're compromising all of your overall mobility. | ||
| So over the last few years, there's been a tremendous amount of concentration and effort by a bunch of different trainers. | ||
| Kelly Starrett, he's done a lot. | ||
| Kelly's done a lot of work in his book, Becoming a Supple Leopard, an excellent book on that. | ||
| And Kelly has a great Instagram you can follow too. | ||
| And what he's done is he's done an amazing job in highlighting mobility and how important mobility and just having a full range of motion, which seems so simple, but it's not something that most people really concentrate on. | ||
| Most people are concentrating on getting stronger, more deadlift, more bench press, more this, more that. | ||
| But you're compromising all these different areas of your body. | ||
| Absolutely, I agree with you. | ||
| That's from Calista Red, right? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| That ball right there, it's one of those, I think he calls it the WOD supernova. | ||
| Yeah, supernova. | ||
| I got that one too. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| It seems like nothing, but when you roll around and you find the spot, you release tension in your fascia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I put that on the ground, and I do, like, bridges on it. | ||
| I lie on my back on it, and I put all my weight on that ball. | ||
| For people just listening, it's a rubber ball that's, like, the size of a softball, and it's really hard, and it's got, like, this textured outer surface, and Kelly developed this to help. | ||
| He also uses lacrosse balls. | ||
| That's what he started out with, but I think that's a little bit better than a lacrosse ball. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I take one of those everywhere with me on the road. | ||
| Every time I go in a hotel room, that goes in my bag, period. | ||
| Because if I work out and I get stiff, if I got something locked up, I need that fucking thing. | ||
| That's what I have too in my bag, because all the trouble in flight, every time I get off on some flight, my infraspinatus, my neck, my lower back have the same problem. | ||
| I find those things fantastic. | ||
| Yeah, like you were saying, Joe, What were the things? | ||
| Years ago, to take to a unit like my community, working with the army or stuff like that, they say, oh, we're going to do mobility. | ||
| They will look at you like, do we really need that? | ||
| They're all tough guys. | ||
| They need to be. | ||
| They're all thinking about, ah, I need something to get myself stronger, faster. | ||
| Yeah, but they don't get it. | ||
| They don't get it if you don't allow yourself to regain the mobility that you're supposed to have. | ||
| At one point, you're going to be... | ||
| You're going to be reaching a plateau, you're going to get injured, and you're going to lose those guys in the field. | ||
| That was my point. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I think the system that Scott created was smart enough to say, you know what? | ||
| I'm going to introduce this slowly, underneath, because I give you a small amount of mobility, then what you want. | ||
| You want an high-intensity workout. | ||
| Okay, so I give you the high-intensity workout. | ||
| That's tuck fit, high-intensity. | ||
| But I'm going to teach you how to recover for the... | ||
| Performance, faster. | ||
| And then I introduce a little bit of yoga. | ||
| So you're going to feel better, loosen up when you're leaving. | ||
| And day by day, those guys, they start to understand. | ||
| And they start to tell me, you know what? | ||
| We like the workout. | ||
| But what we think we need is to be able to move the shoulder again. | ||
| To be able to, you know, carry a backpack again. | ||
| And now everybody wants to do mobility more than workout. | ||
| Because you can kill yourself in a workout. | ||
| You don't need me to kill. | ||
| You know, just throw the daze. | ||
| And decide. | ||
| A little bit of bar peel, a little bit of push up. | ||
| You don't need really someone to drive you. | ||
| Yeah, people are understanding now that it's a huge deal. | ||
| And yoga is huge for me. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why. | ||
| I mean, I still use that supernova ball. | ||
| But man, yoga has had a tremendous effect on my back. | ||
| It's had a tremendous effect on everything. | ||
| My overall flexibility is better than it's been in a long time since I was a kid. | ||
| And I just feel better. | ||
| It just feels like everything moves better. | ||
| You know, but you say yoga to people, and they go, ah, you fucking pussy. | ||
| How come you're not doing deadlifts? | ||
| You need to do fucking hill sprints. | ||
| You know, everybody wants to do something that looks like tough guy stuff, that looks awesome on your Instagram. | ||
| You know, everybody wants to do deadlifts with fucking 450. But the reality is, if your body has any weak links, yoga will find those links. | ||
| You're going to show it. | ||
| Yeah, it'll show it right away. | ||
| I was shocked. | ||
| You know what the big one for me was? | ||
| My feet. | ||
| And this is something that Nick Kurson said as well. | ||
| Nick Kurson, who's a really well-respected strength and conditioning coach, speed of sport down in, I think he's in Huntington Beach, somewhere in Orange County. | ||
| But he trains Joe Schilling, Rafael Dos Anjos, Fabricio Verdum, big-time MMA fighters. | ||
| And kickboxers, and works with Aaron Pico, who's a top-level wrestler, and just a long line of real high-level combat sports athletes. | ||
| I asked him, I go, what do you think that the one thing that a lot of athletes have that is something they need to improve on? | ||
| He said, feet strength. | ||
| Nobody says that. | ||
| Nobody says that. | ||
| Everybody's like, work on your cardio, work on your explosiveness. | ||
| You gotta be able to, you know, fucking throw more kettlebells around. | ||
| He was like, your feet. | ||
| Like, think about it. | ||
| Your motion. | ||
| Like, if you can't move out of the way or towards your opponent, you're useless. | ||
| Right? | ||
| If your foot's broken in a fight, you're severely limited. | ||
| One of the things that I found out almost instantly when I started doing yoga and when I started skiing, my fucking feet would be killing me. | ||
| In the beginning of skiing was because my boots were too small, because I have really wide feet, and so my feet would be smashed in there, and it sucked. | ||
| And I was like, you know, well, fuck skiing. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| My feet are too wide. | ||
| Then I got boots that are made for wider feet, and they fit, but my feet would still hurt after a while. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck is wrong with my goddamn feet? | ||
| Maybe it's just because my feet are flat, and I'm just going to have to deal with that. | ||
| No. | ||
| As soon as I started doing yoga. | ||
| Now I can ski all day. | ||
| It doesn't bother me at all. | ||
| As long as I'm doing yoga twice a week, all that foot problems are gone. | ||
| They're out the window. | ||
| Because of the balance. | ||
| It's pretty funny because I was watching your flow video the other night. | ||
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Right. | |
| Before I came on. | ||
| Because I didn't have... | ||
| I wanted to be able to, you know, contribute in this conversation. | ||
| You guys are two level geniuses for me. | ||
| So if you watch his flow video, the first thing, he put on some shoes with toes in them. | ||
| And you're talking about the feet. | ||
| Before you do anything, he started stretching his feet, and I could see him playing with his toes, and I'm like, you know, I guess this is the... | ||
| I think it's what he was saying. | ||
| I hate to keep saying this, but this has got to be... | ||
| Just pull it around. | ||
| Pull it around to me. | ||
| Yeah, right there. | ||
| It'll be great. | ||
| It's the real thing, you know what I mean? | ||
| Everything, everybody don't think about it because we stand on our feet, so we think we're connected to the earth. | ||
| We are not. | ||
| We just, it's like I pose this one on the table, but it's not connected. | ||
| It moves around, but it has no control. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're building the capability to Grabbing the ground, understanding the stability of the foot, the mobility of the toes, and the ankle mobility is mandatory. | ||
| Because I'm going to transfer power through my feet engagement to the ground, to my leg drive, to my hips, and to my core. | ||
| So everything comes from the hurt. | ||
| These shoes make everybody look gay. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| There's no way around it. | ||
| I love them. | ||
| They're very functional, but they're not sexy at all. | ||
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I would never get married with those. | |
| Well, I always know the real weirdos when I catch them out at night and they're wearing them. | ||
| If you catch a guy at a bar and he's wearing those shoes, that's a real weirdo. | ||
| But there's people that do wear those. | ||
| Is that your gym? | ||
| What gym is that? | ||
| That's my XXL gym. | ||
| Yeah, it's the gym that I'm working with in Europe. | ||
| That's my headquarter, I say, in Europe. | ||
| So it's my gym. | ||
| So this is all what we're looking at here. | ||
| What's the name of this video, Jamie? | ||
| Flowfit, yeah. | ||
| Flowfit, Tactic Flowfit, Alberto Galazzi, Vibram Five Fingers. | ||
| So you sponsored by Vibram? | ||
| Yes, I'm an ambassador for them. | ||
| And that's a very low profile one. | ||
| It has a very small amount of tread at the bottom of it, right? | ||
| It's very thin, the one that you've got on. | ||
| Yeah, because they're different types. | ||
| Yeah, some of them are for trail running. | ||
| They're a little thicker. | ||
| I try to work with them to realize something specifically for flow, because sometimes when they have some rubber on the side, and for some specific flow, especially if you want to focus on your knee, understanding how my knee and my hips work, they get too much friction. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Why do you use that instead of barefoot? | ||
| I alternate it. | ||
| If I want to really go freestyle, move around, I go barefoot, barefoot. | ||
| There's no traction. | ||
| But if I train like I do sometimes in the concrete, I need something to really protect my foot in the beginning. | ||
| Yeah, and dirt and rocks and stuff like that. | ||
| You know, years ago you told me one of your biggest fears was getting old and feeling weak, you know, and then you and I traveled a lot together. | ||
| A lot of places we would go to jujitsu places and we'd see the jujitsu guy, the main guy, and he'd be walking a little funny. | ||
| Oh, yeah, they're all fucked up. | ||
| And that always stuck out in my mind. | ||
| Like, why love something so much if in my 60s I'm gonna be limping or walking different. | ||
| And I think this is maybe, this will help that, you know, as you get older. | ||
| It'll definitely help that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, that's one of the reasons why Eddie's gotten so into yoga, too. | ||
| Eddie's doing yoga three times a week now. | ||
| And he realizes it after he had back surgery. | ||
| When people get older in particular, you start realizing the limitations of some of the things that you're doing. | ||
| You're putting tremendous stress on your body in very specific areas, especially jujitsu. | ||
| You're attacking the joints all the time. | ||
| You're attacking the joints, you're attacking your neck, and almost everybody that I know either has a back problem or some sort of a knee problem or a neck problem. | ||
| It's just a constant issue when it comes to jujitsu. | ||
| And I feel like the only way to mitigate that is, first of all, roll with people that you know. | ||
| Like, people that you know, they're good people, they're not gonna try to hurt you, they're not crazy. | ||
| You know, like, it's not even their fault, but young people in particular. | ||
| Like, you get, like, some young 20-year-old kid who's all full of fucking, just... | ||
| Some little animal. | ||
| They want to kill. | ||
| They want to kill. | ||
| Like a young guy, when they roll, they roll a fucking full clip. | ||
| And you could get a knee caught in a scramble and it gets ripped apart. | ||
| It's just super common. | ||
| So you've got to be real careful with the kind of people you work out with. | ||
| Make sure that people aren't going to yank on an arm bar or a knee bar or a heel hook or something like that. | ||
| That's big. | ||
| But also I think that... | ||
| Improving your mobility. | ||
| There's so many times I would go to class, and I would be stiff before I walked in the door. | ||
| Before I walked in the door, my back would be fucked up. | ||
| I'd get up in the morning, my back would be fucked up. | ||
| I'd just be stiff. | ||
| And then I'd get in there and start warming up. | ||
| But jujitsu is so fun. | ||
| As soon as you get in there, you just do a few movements. | ||
| Cortisol coming in. | ||
| It's an inflammatory, so you're ready to go. | ||
| Next thing you know, you're like, alright, you slap hands and you're fucking going to war again. | ||
| And then you got a worse back, and then you got a worse knee. | ||
| That's how I fucked up my back. | ||
| I didn't just fuck it up in one thing. | ||
| If I had that one incident that it got injured in, I could have eventually healed it. | ||
| What I did was I just kept doing it, even when I was still hurt. | ||
| I would just go light. | ||
| I never went light. | ||
| You still go back in there and go hard again, and then fucks it up more. | ||
| I think that we have to be super aware that our body is a precious resource. | ||
| And you gotta treat it almost scientifically. | ||
| Instead of looking at it like, you know, guys like to do curls and bench presses. | ||
| I mean, how many times have you seen that? | ||
| Where you see a guy with a meatball upper body with a little toothpick at the bottom that's holding him up with his legs? | ||
| Like, you see guys, there's certain guys you see at the gym, and you go, you poor bastard, like, what are you doing to yourself? | ||
| Like, you think everything looks good because you've got these big biceps and big chest, but your lower body is virtually useless. | ||
| You know, because they don't lift. | ||
| They don't lift with their lower body. | ||
| They don't do anything with it. | ||
| You don't, you gotta treat your body like, like it's a big ol' science project. | ||
| You have to look at it scientifically. | ||
| When people ask me, what do you think? | ||
| What is the project? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not going to train you. | ||
| I'm thinking always that everybody of us, we know what our point is. | ||
| So if I ask you, When you come to the gym, what is your goal? | ||
| Most of the, especially young people, they know I want to be, I know what is my point B. I want to become faster, stronger, leaner, whatever. | ||
| You're saying point B? Point B, yeah. | ||
| Point B, right? | ||
| Point A to point B. Yeah, we don't really know what is our point A. We think we know, but we don't know. | ||
| We don't know what's going on inside. | ||
| We don't know about our hormone tracker, about estrogen, testosterone, cortisol, whatever. | ||
| We don't know exactly how the fascia Smith set up with us or the joints. | ||
| If you don't think about that, we're never going to reach point B, or probably we're going to reach it, but going zigzag instead to go straight line, and we're going to face what? | ||
| Injury, plateau, go back to the losing power, imbalances. | ||
| That's why I think something like yoga is very important because it highlights those imbalances. | ||
| And it seems like this kind of particular motion, like your flow like that up there, that would also highlight those particular motions. | ||
| I see flow, like for me, at the beginning of everything. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because you go through a little bit of joint mobility and then you start to connect the exercise logically and connect it to what? | ||
| Challenging your breathing. | ||
| So also your breathing will tell you exactly when you're forcing your breathing through some of the movement, you should be starting to understand and investigate why do I force through this range of motion? | ||
| Probably something is stiff for me. | ||
| It might be my joint, it might be my fascia, whatever. | ||
| It doesn't allow me to flow through one movement to the other movement. | ||
| Because I'm working sixth degree. | ||
| I don't just work in a yoga mat, up and down, left and right. | ||
| I just roll, jump, squat, whatever it is my body is supposed to be doing. | ||
| I look like the magic eyes picture. | ||
| For me, the magic eye picture is the one that you look and then you step back. | ||
| Magic eye pictures, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| For me, it's the body. | ||
| When I see you standing or do a couple of movements, I can interpret it yourself a little bit, but when you move, Freestyle, now I can understand exactly what's going on with you. | ||
| Do you drop your knee when you're squatting? | ||
| Do you know your feet is not connected? | ||
| You cannot torque your knee when you... | ||
| You cannot even understand loading one side, unilateral power to one leg to the other. | ||
| So for me, it's all information that's... | ||
| For me as a coach, okay, I start to plan out what you should be doing, what kind of exercise, what kind of strength training maybe is needed for you, more stability or more yoga. | ||
| Because until you are not ready, I will not let you lift or load your body if your body is not even able to hold in your own weight. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| Most people don't know what their body is capable of doing. | ||
| There's a lot of people that walk into any kind of a class and they start working out and they might not even know what deficiencies they have because they've been overcompensating for that or compensating. | ||
| You might have something wrong with your hip and because of that it's putting extra pressures on your knee. | ||
| You know, one side might be overbalanced. | ||
| That's one thing you see with a lot of people that have done very specific sports. | ||
| Like they're very strong on one side, and then the other side of their body is weak. | ||
| And when you do that, you create these imbalances. | ||
| You can get some serious injuries because of that. | ||
| And we take it for granted, you know. | ||
| How many times you say, okay, my shoulder is in pain, but when I train, no. | ||
| When I train, I'm good. | ||
| It's already a senior, you know. | ||
| You're training, what you're going to do, you're going to release the adrenaline and cortisol. | ||
| And those are painkillers. | ||
| They are supposed to make you stronger. | ||
| You know, fight in the freeze-or-fight situation. | ||
| That's what the endocrine system is doing to you. | ||
| But after you're training, you got even worse than. | ||
| So you need to understand that. | ||
| As a coach, you should be saying, you know what? | ||
| We need to fix that. | ||
| Because it's not good that you start training and working into the pain. | ||
| Because you're going to create more raw material that's not needed into your body. | ||
| And for me, it's like holding this bottle. | ||
| It doesn't weigh nothing. | ||
| Today, tomorrow. | ||
| But if I order for one hour, this is becoming heavy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we adapt to this kind of same level. | ||
| They didn't change the level of the water in my bottle, but day after day, it's going to kill me. | ||
| But people, they don't understand because they say, I'm used to. | ||
| I'm used to don't sleep that hour. | ||
| I'm used to don't eat enough. | ||
| I'm used to work in this pain. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| Now, what do you think is the biggest injury that you deal with when you have clients or people that you're working out with? | ||
| What's the most common? | ||
| Is it shoulders? | ||
| Shoulder and knee. | ||
| Shoulder and knee. | ||
| Shoulder is more common those days, especially because we all grew up in an era that we all want to pack and shoulder and press. | ||
| Bench presses. | ||
| I believe our shoulder is a complex joint, but it's not strong at all. | ||
| Because we are a vertical animal. | ||
| We are not like sympathies. | ||
| It's loading, and if you see the structure, it's holding back. | ||
| The horse can hold a lot of power on the shoulder. | ||
| The human being's shoulder is just dropping on the rib cage. | ||
| It's so weak. | ||
| And then the simple question is, how many of us can even stand just standing on the wall with the feet on the wall? | ||
| Some people cannot even hold their weight. | ||
| You're saying to do a handstand with your feet on the wall? | ||
| Yeah, just even simple like that. | ||
| And how many people, even with their feet on the wall, can do a handstand press? | ||
| Yeah, not that many. | ||
| Not that many. | ||
| And if you ask how many of you, 10 out of 10, got shoulder injury, probably now they say, yeah, I got an issue if I've been involved in sports. | ||
| So weak. | ||
| It's very complex. | ||
| A lot of tendon, ligaments, multiple joints. | ||
| Do you incorporate a lot of hanging? | ||
| I think hanging is something that people have been really concentrating on over the last few years for shoulder mobility and alleviating impingements. | ||
| And people listening to this, if you have anything going on with your shoulders, I'm telling you, grab a chin-up bar and hang from that thing. | ||
| It relaxes your shoulder. | ||
| It stretches out your joints. | ||
| And there's several doctors that stopped doing shoulder surgeries. | ||
| And to alleviate pain, they've started doing hanging exercises and prescribing hanging exercises. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Just grab a chin-up bar, start hanging from that sucker. | ||
| You know, he has the... | ||
| The class starts at 12, but I go at 11. It's not like a formula to class. | ||
| I go back to the jump rope just to get oxygen power so I don't pass out. | ||
| But Alberto will come back there at like 11, 15 and give me homework assignments. | ||
| And they're always different, Joe. | ||
| Like some days it's a steel club. | ||
| Some days I just work on my hands and knees and we incorporate our hips. | ||
| But some days he puts me on rings. | ||
| The other day he goes, you got rings at your house? | ||
| Rings? | ||
| Like gymnastics rings? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I go, what wall is going to hold me? | ||
| I mean, he's got the whole thing. | ||
| And he just taught me one thing because my biggest weakness is my breathing. | ||
| From the sleep apnea, I even got hypnotized. | ||
| I gotta go tomorrow again. | ||
| You got hypnotized? | ||
| I've been going to get hypnotized. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| Because from the sleep apnea... | ||
| You ever wake up with your pants down? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It got so severe. | ||
| Mine was such a bad case. | ||
| My machine broke a couple weeks ago. | ||
| My wife had to go pick up the machine for me up in Canoga, and the guy was saying, how's Joey doing? | ||
| And he goes, you know, that till this day, Joey came in here as one of the worst... | ||
| Like Joey was in bad shape. | ||
| You remember what I was going through? | ||
| Falling asleep on your steering wheel. | ||
| And that sleep apnea, like whenever my heart gets going in jiu-jitsu, like no other place does my heart get going like that when I'm on the bottom. | ||
| And so at first when I joined jiu-jitsu, I overcame the panic attacks. | ||
| So I had to just go, stand on the bottom. | ||
| Like, I'd force myself to get on the bottom. | ||
| I'd get like a, whatever you call it, a bridge or whatever they call it, a frame. | ||
| And I'd breathe and I overcame my fear. | ||
| But the other fear I had was when I get too wound up, I can't control my breathing. | ||
| It's when I would get up from the sleep apnea. | ||
| So I kept thinking about something you said about a couple of podcasts ago about sports psychiatry or something. | ||
| Sports psychologist. | ||
| Some people have it. | ||
| And I did some reading and I said, let me just go alleviate this last fear. | ||
| I mean, how many feet, you know, I got the needle for you, but last week I got, you know, I still get that thing in my ear. | ||
| She stuck a needle in my ear to acupuncture to take the fluid out because my ear is not letting my right, my left ear, the fluid out. | ||
| So they got to put a little thing there. | ||
| What kind of fluids in there? | ||
| Just from taking showers. | ||
| You know me, I'm obsessed with showers. | ||
| And I got to put earplugs in my ears when I go in the shower and I go in there for an hour. | ||
| When California had the drought, I go to Vegas. | ||
| I got one of those king-size pin showers. | ||
| I smoke a joint going there for an hour and a half. | ||
| I write jokes. | ||
| Oh yeah, I love taking long showers. | ||
| In the shower, an hour and a half? | ||
| Best material. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Best material ever. | ||
| You can even practice it in there. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| No, but I get fluid stuck in my ear. | ||
| And last week I went to acupuncture. | ||
| And she stuck a needle in there, and when she took it out, it relieved the pressure. | ||
| Joe, I could feel the blood dripping down my face, and I could hear it hitting the pillow, and I didn't pass out. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Because I want to get these fears out of the way. | ||
| Back to Tactical Fitness, the rings. | ||
| He has rings, and Alberto taught me emotion. | ||
| That it's all about my breathing. | ||
| I don't leave my ass on the floor, so I basically pick up my hips as a hip escape, and then I hold that breath, but I pull myself up, I stay there, and then as I alleviate my hips back is when I accept Exhale. | ||
| And then my arms go down on that one. | ||
| So it's a two-point breathing thing. | ||
| Dog, I do three sets of ten of those. | ||
| I'm on fire after that. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a big believer in that. | ||
| Fire. | ||
| Breathing is gigantic. | ||
| It's another thing that seems so simple. | ||
| It's another thing. | ||
| You tell people, oh, you've got to do some breathing exercises. | ||
| People go, I'm not doing that shit. | ||
| I'm doing benching, bro. | ||
| I'm going to build up my pecs, bro. | ||
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Right? | |
| That's what people do. | ||
| They don't think that breathing is difficult. | ||
| But breathing exercises... | ||
| This is what I tell people. | ||
| Breathe in for one minute and breathe out for one minute. | ||
| Tell me that's not hard. | ||
| Just take a one minute breath in. | ||
| Look at a clock. | ||
| And say, ready, go. | ||
| And then breathe in for one solid minute. | ||
| Nice and slow. | ||
| And then breathe out for one minute. | ||
| Nice and slow. | ||
| You're fucking dead. | ||
| You're not going to be able to do it. | ||
| Most people can hold their breath for a minute, but if you tell them to breathe in for one solid minute, it's really hard to do. | ||
| And then you go to like a yoga class and you take, you know, yoga deep breathing, like pranayama exercises. | ||
| They're very difficult. | ||
| And one of the things that I, when I first started doing yoga, About two years ago, I really started getting into it again. | ||
| The breathing exercises after class, when you're doing those breathing exercises, it was like my stomach felt soft. | ||
| It felt like it was kind of weak. | ||
| It would get tired doing those. | ||
| I was like, I'm just tired from yoga. | ||
| Why is my stomach getting tired from breathing out, pushing air out? | ||
| It's so simple. | ||
| I do sit-ups and leg lifts and all this different stuff. | ||
| Why is that difficult? | ||
| Because it's a different kind of thing. | ||
| And you're breathing, you're pushing air out with your diaphragm, your abdominal muscles. | ||
| But now I can do it pretty good. | ||
| But you get to that Hicks and Gracie point, I'm sure you've seen that. | ||
| Hicks starts pulling the muscles up in these weird ways and makes them dance. | ||
| And it's so connected. | ||
| Brain is connected to your breathing. | ||
| The heart rate is connected to your breathing. | ||
| And people don't understand how it's important to regain access to Proper breathing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even for people, they also think, okay, breathing for meditation. | ||
| I'm not into the holistic type. | ||
| No, breathing is good for everything. | ||
| It helps you visualize what you need to do. | ||
| Reset your norm. | ||
| You can switch from your parasympathetic to your disympathetic. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| The what? | ||
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Parasympathetic? | |
| Yeah, in every system. | ||
| It's like if you breathe correctly, especially under stress, and you need to regain access to your cognitive presence, especially if you need to do something that is more complex. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| Some people, they're just thinking, okay, under the gas response, you know, when my fight or freeze situation rises, and the situation is on, I probably go to my gross motor skills. | ||
| Yeah, but some people, like an advanced fighter, an operator, they need to go to access to gross motor skills and fine motor skills. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| I'm going to run across this room, and I need to use my gross motor skills to run faster, but I need to understand where am I going to find cover and maybe shoot him back To a target. | ||
| So now you have fine motor skills on and gross motor skills. | ||
| I need to be able to get my vertical view on because I can't stay in my tunnel. | ||
| Your English is tripping me up a little bit. | ||
| So what you're talking about is big motor skills like running and sprinting and then being able to shoot like a gun and be able to be very precise and very accurate. | ||
| And understanding and also interpreting what is the people shooting at me from. | ||
| So that's a complex. | ||
| That's very complex. | ||
| So do you have guys do that? | ||
| Do you have guys like lift weights and then go or do like strenuous physical exercises then go immediately to a range or on a range? | ||
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We do that. | |
| We do that. | ||
| But also, you know, when we start to... | ||
| What is the importance of learning how to recover fast? | ||
| Using the breathing. | ||
| Recovery breathing, like the tactical breathing, something like you were talking about. | ||
| They used to do a lot. | ||
| Four seconds in, holding for four seconds, releasing for four seconds, holding for four seconds. | ||
| It's a very basic way to learn how to get back from the high intensity to above your RA max to, let's say, 85%, something that you can bring back to a cognitive presence so you can make the right decision. | ||
| So that's what you tell people to do, take a four second in and a four second out so you're like slow controlling of the breathing. | ||
| That's the beginning of understanding, you know, because we're going to be going... | ||
| I need to start going into my nose and maybe taking a pose, go out through my mind so that my heart rate would be slowed down. | ||
| In through the nose, out through the mouth. | ||
| Yeah, that does seem to somehow or another slow down your heart rate for some reason. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's when your heart rate slows down, it's going to give you a signal back to your brain. | ||
| Okay, now we switch. | ||
| Now this is under control so you can make the right decision and you can get back to the fine motor skills if it's needed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that, obviously, when you're training soldiers, it's got to be one of the most important things to do, to be able to operate under pressure and under, like, physical pressure. | ||
| And make the right choice. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's different, you know? | ||
| The not panicking thing, right? | ||
| The survival response will tell you, do the things that maybe is more logical to save your life, but sometimes, like, I always use this example. | ||
| We're going to cross the street right now. | ||
| You're going to cross, you see the car, you're going to freeze, and then you decide to jump back or jump forward, whatever, is the response to see... | ||
| You don't get hit by the car. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But maybe that takes like 12 milliseconds. | ||
| And if you've been training more to that kind of alarm, you're going to see the car and you want to do, before you jump in and out, you're going to look and see on the other side. | ||
| Because maybe you see the car, you jump back, you didn't see the car coming from the other part. | ||
| And you got killed from the other car. | ||
| That takes a response of 300 milliseconds. | ||
| So, the amygdala will tell you to do whatever is needed to get out of the problem faster. | ||
| But the long way of your brain response, if you've been training and you're becoming resilient to the kind of alarm and shock situation, you're gonna make the right choice. | ||
| And for an operator, for a fighter, whatever, it's logical. | ||
| Think about Jiu Jitsu, a chess game. | ||
| Chess game. | ||
| Even those guys, they play chess. | ||
| They're so under stress hours. | ||
| The brain is cooking. | ||
| And the guys make a move, and maybe me, but I'm not playing. | ||
| I see the move, I say, I gotta move this way. | ||
| The other guy is planning, taking more time to plan whatever is going on, because he starts to understand why you did that move. | ||
| So it's not logical for me, I should be going that way. | ||
| And in training, regaining access to your breathing, to your heart rate, to your brain control is fundamental. | ||
| That's why I believe we need to be careful and understand fitness is so important. | ||
| We can do a lot of things. | ||
| It's not just changing the way they look. | ||
| We can help different people in different things. | ||
| For some people, it's life-changing. | ||
| Yeah, the ability to become under pressure is something that very few people have, and it's not something that they exercise. | ||
| They don't get to do it on a regular basis, they don't get severely stressed, so that when they are in a severe stress situation, and they have to make a critical decision, or they have to use fine motor skills in a critical situation, most people are just completely incapable of handing that emotional and physiological load. | ||
| What is it about? | ||
| There's something interesting about breathing in through your mouth that creates a panic feeling, like when guys are tired. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| It's a shallow breathing thing that happens. | ||
| Yeah, they take too much air in, I believe. | ||
| That's what it is? | ||
| And they brace. | ||
| They brace. | ||
| So they clamp up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We call it like a forced breathing. | ||
| It leads you into a fear reaction. | ||
| And so for your brain, why are you bracing? | ||
| You're bracing when you don't know something. | ||
| You're facing something you're never expecting. | ||
| So for my brain, my database says it's been there before. | ||
| In your life, you've been freezing for something. | ||
| And that will bring you back. | ||
| Okay, this is a fear situation. | ||
| So your sympathetic system is on and you start to lose control. | ||
| Hit that panic mode. | ||
| I think it's so simple. | ||
| How many times do you tie your lace shoes? | ||
| Sometimes when you're under stress, you're a little bit losing control. | ||
| Maybe we fight, we have a discussion, a very intense discussion. | ||
| You can't tie your lace. | ||
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You can't tie your shoelace because you're all out of whack. | |
| Yeah, breathing in, one of the things that you really learn that, like during yoga class, in particularly stressful situations, it's so hard to breathe smooth. | ||
| It's one of the things that I've learned how to do is to try to concentrate only on my breath, and it actually makes the exercise easier. | ||
| Which doesn't seem to make any sense because before I'd just be concentrating on the exercise and what I realized somewhere along the line is my breath is not very smooth and I'm not doing a good job of controlling myself. | ||
| So now when I'm in a situation like a really difficult standing bow pose or something like that, What I concentrate on more than anything, more even than the posture, is just my breathing. | ||
| Concentrate on big, slow, deep breaths. | ||
| And I swear it makes it like 10% easier. | ||
| Just concentrating on the breathing makes everything easier. | ||
| And Chrome Gracie said that too when he was in here. | ||
| We were talking about jiu-jitsu. | ||
| And he's like, it's breath, man. | ||
| Breath is everything. | ||
| And once you can control your breath, once you understand how to control your breath, it makes those positions better, makes jiu-jitsu easier, makes everything better. | ||
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That's true. | |
| Your breath control. | ||
| Your breath, Joey. | ||
| And you say the right things. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| All of us, we know how to brace, how to inhale. | ||
| We're talking for half an hour. | ||
| We never stop and do what we're talking. | ||
| But we're not under stress. | ||
| We understand. | ||
| When people are under stress, they start to do it. | ||
| The problem is when people, they don't know how to exhale. | ||
| If you're taking a man and put it under the water with the head, Right. | ||
| What is the last thing he's going to do before he die? | ||
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Right. | |
| To catch the breathing. | ||
| So the body exactly knows when it's time to inhale. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But it doesn't know when it's time to exhale. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| And the fear that we tend to force in the breathing. | ||
| We see people hyperventilate. | ||
| Like my six-year-old gets upset about things. | ||
| Sometimes she hyperventilates. | ||
| Like she just can't get it out. | ||
| Like she's upset. | ||
| Like, someone did this to me. | ||
| I'm so upset. | ||
| You know, and you got to go, okay, you got to calm down. | ||
| I want you to take some big deep breaths. | ||
| But it's hard to teach a six-year-old that, you know? | ||
| Now what the fuck do we do on stage for breathing? | ||
| Just talk. | ||
| I've never... | ||
| Never thought about it? | ||
| Like, I started getting anxiety at the store. | ||
| So now when I walk up to the original room, like on Tuesdays, or when I did the will turn, I force myself to breathe in and out of my nose. | ||
| But for years... | ||
| You get anxiety at the store? | ||
| Yeah, in the original room. | ||
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Why? | |
| Since I've been back. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It all started to know how to follow Morgan Murphy. | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I went up there, she was on stage, and I don't know what it is. | ||
| I just get anxiety in the original room. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| And at the Wulchan Theater, I walked out and I looked that way. | ||
| And then I looked at the audience and it was like, woo! | ||
| And I had to breathe a little through my nose. | ||
| But what do we do on stage? | ||
| Are we breathing through our nose or are we breathing through our mouths? | ||
| We fucking talk shit for 45 to an hour. | ||
| I looked at the special that I shot and I'm like, where am I breathing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How interesting. | ||
| We gotta watch that next time. | ||
| What the fuck are we doing up there? | ||
| Yeah, you're not thinking. | ||
| You're just breathing. | ||
| Yeah, well, you just concentrated so much on what you're trying to say that it all just comes natural. | ||
| Just like right now. | ||
| While I'm talking to you right now, I took a little breath right there, but I wasn't thinking about it. | ||
| I only need a little bit of air. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because it's so natural for you. | ||
| Maybe take me in a conference the first time and I'm gonna be shaking and go, run into my world and then... | ||
| You see that from people that are giving speeches. | ||
| You do see that when they've not become comfortable with public speaking. | ||
| Public speaking is one of the most stressful things for people, for some people. | ||
| Like number two or number one in some people's world. | ||
| Like it's really bad. | ||
| I had one time a judge asked me. | ||
| He was about to sentence me. | ||
| And he goes, do you have anything to say to yourself? | ||
| And I had it written down. | ||
| I had everything, Joe Rogan. | ||
| I started squeaking. | ||
| He's like, don't worry about it. | ||
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Guilty. | |
| I couldn't talk. | ||
| I couldn't talk. | ||
| I went right into a panic when this little man looked at me. | ||
| Boy, people get nervous. | ||
| You know, and when you get nervous, your adrenaline kicks in, and when your adrenaline kicks in, everything tightens up. | ||
| Physiological stress, like yoga positions, can kind of mimic that. | ||
| When you're in a position like when you've got your hands over your head and you're leaning your whole body to the side, it's very hard to stay smooth with your breathing when you're in those spots. | ||
| That's the number one thing that I concentrate on. | ||
| Holding my body in that position is not nearly as hard as holding my body and breathing smoothly. | ||
| Breathing smoothly is the most difficult part of that posture, like a lot of postures. | ||
| And as soon as you change your breathing, you start to change inside and you change outside. | ||
| I see this happening a lot. | ||
| What is the first reaction when you're under stress? | ||
| Tension. | ||
| Tension. | ||
| But if you look back at what happened when you were in the prehistory, think about it. | ||
| You were a prey. | ||
| What you're doing, like any animal, like a cat in the road, they start to pump his hair up to become bigger, right? | ||
| So that's what we're doing. | ||
| Growing our shape, so the predator might look at us like, oh, we're too big? | ||
| I'm gonna attack a simple, a simple predator. | ||
| We try to, you know, our skin start to twigling, something like... | ||
| Goosebumps? | ||
| Yeah, we don't have hair, but we try to do the same things. | ||
| Is that what goosebumps are? | ||
| It's like your hair is puffing up to make you look bigger? | ||
| Underfear, underfear. | ||
| Wow! | ||
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Underfear? | |
| That's interesting. | ||
| And if I look in, you know... | ||
| How come it's like that when you hear a good song? | ||
| That's a different feeling. | ||
| You got a goose bump. | ||
| It's like a lot of people, they misinterpret it, or they all think, okay, we go tactical training, we do this, and we can control fear, reaction. | ||
| No, that's two different things. | ||
| You can control when you are really under stress for that kind of situation, so our rate. | ||
| And fears and other things. | ||
| Matter of fact, under high intensity workout, you become red. | ||
| Under fear, you become poor. | ||
| So it's different physiological things going into your body. | ||
| So the only thing that people do is misunderstanding that doing some kind of high intensity workout, we can control also the fear, real fear, because real fear is another thing. | ||
| Well, one of the things you see with fighters is they perform better when they're more active, when they fight more often. | ||
| So if a fighter fights like three times a year, they're used to fighting every few months and they get that feeling of competition becomes a normal, natural thing for them. | ||
| And it's also something that happens when you see a fighter lose. | ||
| When you see a fighter lose and they come back, they're very tense and they fight, a lot of times, they fight different. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because they're now worried and concerned about the consequences of failure. | ||
| And you see that fear, that tension, it's in their system, and then their whole mode of operating as an athlete changes. | ||
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| Because of that tension. | ||
| Because they didn't recover for the shock, for the situation they've been through. | ||
| Sure, and that's also one of the biggest factors when you talk about the difference between the way someone performs in the gym versus the way someone performs in competition. | ||
| We've all known these guys that were phenomenal in the gym, but for whatever reason, they weren't able to win in competition. | ||
| It's so common. | ||
| With some guys, it's almost like... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's almost like there's a spell on them or something. | ||
| You'll see them in the gym and you're like, this guy's a world beater. | ||
| But they can't beat anybody in a competition. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Psychological. | ||
| It's all psychological. | ||
| They are imprisoned by their own fears and doubts. | ||
| They don't have the confidence to rise to the occasion. | ||
| They don't have the confidence to perform under pressure. | ||
| They can't just accept the potential failure. | ||
| They're so overwhelmed and imprisoned by their fear of failure that when they get out there, they can't perform at their best. | ||
| It's crazy because it forces failure. | ||
| It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy because they can't perform like they do in the gym. | ||
| They can't just react. | ||
| They can't flow. | ||
| When you are fighting, when you're at your best, you're sort of just in this empty space. | ||
| You're not thinking about the moves as much as they're just happening, and you're just relying on your training, and the best thing you do is stay calm, because as soon as you get emotional, as soon as you get aggressive, you might win being emotional and aggressive. | ||
| You could catch someone and knock them out, but you also might get knocked out yourself. | ||
| You might do something that's not smart, like when you were talking earlier about playing chess. | ||
| Martial arts is a lot of ways like very much like chess, but way more complicated because your physical consequences are so severe. | ||
| So there's all this fear. | ||
| It's not just about losing. | ||
| It's about getting hit and that punishment of physical consequences is just so significant. | ||
| It's so much different even than in jujitsu. | ||
| Like jujitsu, the physical consequences are tapping and losing and those are terrible. | ||
| But it's nothing like getting kicked in the face or getting one of those Yoel Romero flying knees to your head. | ||
| You know, that kind of fear, that's an overwhelming fear. | ||
| And for some people, they throw up when they're in the locker room and they panic. | ||
| They get so scared. | ||
| They just can't perform under pressure. | ||
| You know, if you transfer this also to some of the operators, you know, some of the operators, they literally dump. | ||
| When you say an operator, you're talking about soldiers, special ops guys? | ||
| They're tough, you know? | ||
| They are super guys, you know? | ||
| I'm amazed by those guys, you know, and they're just chapeau, you know? | ||
| But it's natural, you know, they say, you know, enduring the task, I might be shit in my pants, you know? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But it's physiological. | ||
| It's physiological. | ||
| And then you keep going. | ||
| Then you keep going. | ||
| They just keep going with shit in their pants. | ||
| Because that's a physiological reaction to the kind of stress factor. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Your body wants to get lighter to fight back faster or run away or whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you can't control it. | ||
| You know, there's nothing to be a shame about it. | ||
| You see it with animals as well. | ||
| I mean, there's a famous video of these two bears fighting. | ||
| And as the bears are fighting, they're... | ||
| They're shitting all over the place. | ||
| As they're fighting, they're shitting. | ||
| I love watching movies like Collateral or something when... | ||
| People go into some place and they shoot a place up and people's reaction, how they run. | ||
| That's not usually the case, bro. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| People drop to the fucking floor. | ||
| People drop without even getting shot. | ||
| They don't know what. | ||
| You just freeze. | ||
| The sound of you being somewhere and being transferred to the sound of gunfire is fucking overwhelming. | ||
| And some people get it and react to it. | ||
| And some people just think it's the 4th of July. | ||
| You know, it's really weird, but I've seen people fucking drop from fear. | ||
| Drop from fear. | ||
| Something that I was, as a child, when I was two blocks away from, just people dropping from fear. | ||
| You know, it's so... | ||
| Like, I remember when I lived in Aspen, they have the ESI Bodyguard Academy in Aspen. | ||
| I don't know, but the guy supposedly was in a room, 6x12 room, and he killed 12 Mexicans at night point with his bare hands, so he opens up this ESI thing, and it's, you know, it's 20 G's, you know? | ||
| It's a summer long program, and you learn how to adjust up at the high altitude, and drive, and evasive driving, and shooting. | ||
| Then they have a course on maritime, how to defend people out on the ocean. | ||
| And all that stuff. | ||
| But see, Aspen and all those places, like Woody Creek, where you went, is home to the baddest retired soldiers in the world. | ||
| And you don't know who they are. | ||
| You just think that dude over there with the American flag is mowing the lawn? | ||
| That guy killed 80 people with one hand in Vietnam. | ||
| There's a guy in Denver that I know is amazing. | ||
| I'm telling you, Colorado is where they put them. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why do they put them in Colorado? | ||
| Because the mountains to keep them away from civilization for these people. | ||
| Just in case they hear Chinese music somewhere on the street. | ||
| They don't ever want that to happen. | ||
| Break glass in case of war. | ||
| And there was a guy that came in that was a Marine that, bro, Joe, you know, anybody comes in with stories, I know one thing. | ||
| When I see it, I believe it. | ||
| The motherfucker used to get picked up at Aspen Airport in a helicopter. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| Like they sent like a helicopter with two guys jumping out. | ||
| Four guys around them. | ||
| And he would just wave at Uncle Joey. | ||
| I was 19. Wow. | ||
| And he would tell me stories about, you know, the Green Berets and all these guys were sitting around a thing cooking chili. | ||
| And they were all telling how many people they killed. | ||
| I killed 18. I killed 22. Meanwhile, he was stirring the soup with his dick. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Over the fire, you know what I'm saying? | ||
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That's the type of stories this guy would tell me. | |
| He had me all fucked up in the head. | ||
| And I asked him once, I go, should I go to that ESI? And he goes, listen, I'll go in there and smack them all with my left hand. | ||
| He goes, first of all, you can't teach. | ||
| What you need to learn over there. | ||
| Because four years of Charlie in the bush is a lot better than 12 weeks of you hanging out with some white dude with suits shooting people, targets in the mountains. | ||
| Yeah, it's not real. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Until there's real consequences. | ||
| That's why he said it just wasn't. | ||
| Don't you think though it's better than nothing? | ||
| I would think that it's better than nothing. | ||
| I would think that the best thing would be actually being in boot camp, actually going to Bud's, actually being in some sort of a situation where you realize this is life. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| Whereas if you're preparing up in Colorado and you're just going through that course, you might have some things in your mind. | ||
| But that's one of the things people say to me like, Like, should I take a self-defense class? | ||
| Like, will they show you how to kick somebody in the knee? | ||
| I go, listen to me. | ||
| That shit is not gonna... | ||
| Like, there was just a guy on the fucking radio that was... | ||
| He was always talking about... | ||
| It was on an Opie and Anthony show back in the day, and he was always talking about this difference between the street and martial arts. | ||
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There's martial arts and tournaments, there's rules. | |
| In the street, there's no rules. | ||
| And I'm like, I fucking hate when people say that kind of shit. | ||
| Because listen to me, the stuff that works on trained killers is the real shit. | ||
| And if you think that you're gonna come in and you're gonna throw some fucking karate chop at someone's balls, and you're gonna somehow or another be able to stop Anderson Silva from kicking you across the room, you're out of your fucking mind. | ||
| You're out of your mind. | ||
| First of all, you're not gonna karate chop his balls. | ||
| He's not gonna let you get close enough to him. | ||
| And if he does let you get close enough to him, he's gonna strangle you. | ||
| And you're not gonna be able to do a goddamn thing about it. | ||
| You're gonna be 100% helpless. | ||
| So these ideas, there's this shortcut, and the shortcut is like street defense. | ||
| There's certain pressure points around your neck. | ||
| I could attack that, and you will be helpless. | ||
| No, no, no, you're not going to get in my neck, you fuck. | ||
| Let me grab your finger. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Oh, that guy from the fucking store! | ||
| There was a guy at the store who used to pinch down on, literally, this is the biggest phony I've ever met in all my years of meeting phony martial arts guys. | ||
| He used to pinch down on your thumbnail. | ||
| He was like, there's a pressure point on your thumb. | ||
| Oh, yeah, right. | ||
| Like, motherfucker, dudes lie on me with their knee on my neck. | ||
| Like, they'll put all their weight on your neck to try to get you to give up the armbar. | ||
| Like, if you're in a situation where you're defending against an armbar and the guy's on top of you, guys will put their fucking knee. | ||
| A 230-pound man will put his knee on your neck while he's trying to... | ||
| And he'll put all his weight on it. | ||
| And you're not tapping from that? | ||
| You think I'm going to tap from a thumbnail? | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| I saw people try to get into the Special Forces community. | ||
| I tried to teach them... | ||
| Pressure point shit? | ||
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Pressure point. | |
| Do you realize this guy's wearing a bulletproof jacket and vest and plaid and all the material? | ||
| You're not even going to have access to the body. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| There's so many stupid martial arts courses. | ||
| It's so fucking dumb. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| There's so many of these ridiculous ideas that you're going to be able to defend yourself with some tricks. | ||
| You were saying on the card, people love these things. | ||
| They like bullshit. | ||
| You're gonna have six packs, ten minutes training a day in six weeks or whatever. | ||
| Late night infomercials. | ||
| People love that. | ||
| You only have 15 minutes, but 15 minutes is two minutes too much. | ||
| 13 minutes is all you need. | ||
| 13 minutes. | ||
| All you need is 13 minutes. | ||
| You're like, wow, that's what I've been waiting for. | ||
| I'm gonna be shredded. | ||
| I'm gonna go great in the beach. | ||
| 13 minutes. | ||
| Fuck the fuck out of here. | ||
| We've had a civilization of just these big dick pills. | ||
| Just things that... | ||
| Quick fixes. | ||
| If you stay up past one... | ||
| It's all attacking men's testosterone level. | ||
| I don't know what it is about people after one. | ||
| I'm fucking tired all the time. | ||
| So we're all tired. | ||
| Yeah, so we're sleeping. | ||
| Yeah, but those guys that are up late at night, they're just like, like, half out of it. | ||
| That's all they're having. | ||
| Resistance is down. | ||
| Do you have more sex drive? | ||
| I mean, they just sell you some fucking bililating. | ||
| Whether it's the big dick pills or the six-minute workout. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they keep beating each other. | ||
| Like, by one minute, we have the six. | ||
| But we have the five-minute workout. | ||
| And you know what, man? | ||
| Half of America buys into that. | ||
| A lot of America buys into those fat pills. | ||
| That's the sad thing. | ||
| And once again, if we want to go back to what we discussed before, it's all about also, you know, your breathing. | ||
| I mean, how comfortable you are in the situation. | ||
| And I always give this example. | ||
| I believe, I've been there. | ||
| I don't know all you guys, but sometimes you want, you desire to date someone so badly and you get so excited when you get it. | ||
| And the first day that you go, you feel like you cannot even move, you know? | ||
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Panic. | |
| Panic. | ||
| And if you... | ||
| I remember those days. | ||
| Get to have sex that day. | ||
| It doesn't work the way that you want. | ||
| You pray that it's going to work. | ||
| But after you pass the first shot, the second, the third, it's become better. | ||
| It's exercising and breathing control. | ||
| It's all the same. | ||
| Once you get used to it, everything comes. | ||
| It's so comfortable. | ||
| That's a big thing with, again, what we were talking about with fighting. | ||
| I had one time where I tore a muscle and I didn't compete for like six months. | ||
| It was like the longest time I'd ever gone without competing because I tore the muscle that connects the groin to like, I think it's called the sartorius muscle. | ||
| It's like at the top of the leg. | ||
| It was real bad. | ||
| I couldn't throw any kicks at all. | ||
| I could only do my workouts in the pool. | ||
| It was pretty bad. | ||
| And so when I was recovering from that, When I got back in, my first fight back, I was like, wow, I just feel so off. | ||
| My timing feels off. | ||
| Everything feels weird. | ||
| But then I fought again less than a month later, and I felt great. | ||
| Like, less than a month later, everything was like, all right, I know this again. | ||
| This is my thing. | ||
| I've been here before. | ||
| And then I felt normal again. | ||
| It's like when you have a girlfriend. | ||
| If you have a girlfriend for a long time, you don't get nervous about whether or not you're going to get it up. | ||
| You don't panic like, I hope she likes me. | ||
| She fucking likes you. | ||
| She's naked. | ||
| She's right there. | ||
| She's been with you forever. | ||
| You know she likes you, so it's not an issue. | ||
| But if, you know, if it is, like you said, a girl that you've been thinking about for the longest time, and you're, I'm gonna ask her out, I hope this goes well. | ||
| And then you finally get where they're like, yikes! | ||
| The human penis is such a fucking odd thing in that regard. | ||
| What a bizarre thing. | ||
| It's designed to make sure, like, look, dude, if you ain't calm, you're not gonna fuck, okay? | ||
| Because we don't want any weak-ass, nervous bitches out there making babies. | ||
| So the system is built. | ||
| To make sure that your dick does not get hard if you're fucking panicking. | ||
| It's not like a rhino horn where it's armed and ready at all times. | ||
| No, it's like a very specific physiological process has to be in place where the softest part of your body becomes hard like a fucking rock. | ||
| The process itself is crazy. | ||
| When you look at your dick when you're going to pee and it's this soft little spongy thing and then you grab your dick when it's that full mast And it's like, how is that the same thing? | ||
| Because it's this crazy physiological process that only works if you're ready to rock. | ||
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Right. | |
| You can't be faking it. | ||
| Like, your body knows if you're panicking. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There is a book. | ||
| There is a book. | ||
| I don't know how you translate it in English, but there is a book that explains it so well, so simple about those reactions of the body and the stress. | ||
| And you say, think about the zebra and the savanna. | ||
| You know, that's exactly, you know, when someone is chasing you to hit you, and when you are under stress, high stress, your body starts producing hormones, like testosterone. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You know, the last thing you want to have is sex when some lion is behind you. | ||
| So that's exactly what he's doing, shutting down whatever is needed. | ||
| Shutting down everything. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So it's under stress, you know, when you are freaking out, you can't perform. | ||
| You can't perform. | ||
| You are not relaxed. | ||
| You are confident. | ||
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You know, it's... | |
| Zebras are so bizarre because you see the way their body looks. | ||
| They're not camouflaged at all. | ||
| They have white with black stripes on. | ||
| And for the longest time, they thought that the white with black stripes on would confuse an animal's mind. | ||
| There's a type of camo. | ||
| Have you ever heard of ASAT camo as a type of camouflage? | ||
| It doesn't look like trees or anything. | ||
| It's just a bunch of black and white. | ||
| Brown lines. | ||
| And those lines for animals, because animals, their eyes operate on edge detection. | ||
| They operate on a lot of them, especially prey animals, like deer and things along those lines. | ||
| They see movement. | ||
| They don't necessarily see things the way you see things. | ||
| They mostly just see movement. | ||
| And so for the longest time, they thought, well, maybe when you're looking like a lion is looking at a zebra, The lion is seeing this zebra's body, and there's all the lines, confuses it so he can't see it. | ||
| Then they realized, no, no, no, what it actually is, is you can't pick out individual zebras. | ||
| So, like, if an individual zebra, like, looks different from the other zebras, that's the one they get after. | ||
| Like, if one zebra's bleeding and has blood on its body, and it looks different from all those other white and black lines, that's the one they target. | ||
| Which is kind of fucked. | ||
| And one of the ways they found out this, they tagged a zebra. | ||
| They put like an ear tag on a zebra, and they sent... | ||
| Jordan Peterson was talking about this recently in this video. | ||
| And they put it back into the herd, and the lions immediately killed that zebra. | ||
| That's the one they went right to, because it had something different. | ||
| Like, you see all these white and black lines, and then, oh, this motherfucker's got an ear tag. | ||
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Get him! | |
| And they just went right after that. | ||
| So it's really designed like, look, we know we're fucked. | ||
| We're born fucked. | ||
| But if we stay together, you know, maybe, like, look, when you see that. | ||
| So when you see all those zebras together, it's super confusing. | ||
| Well, we will have this fucking TV fix soon, I swear. | ||
| This TV cuts in and out. | ||
| That one, you can see it back. | ||
| So when you see these zebras and we see these lions, what it's designed to do is confuse the lions so that they don't know which one to target, which is crazy. | ||
| But if one of those motherfuckers had an ear tag, a big old yellow tag hanging off their ear, the lions would be like, there you are, bitch. | ||
| I see ya. | ||
| That's kind of cool. | ||
| It's fucked, though. | ||
| I mean, what a terrible situation nature has given these poor things. | ||
| The lions are camouflaged. | ||
| The lions look like the brown grasses, you know? | ||
| And leopard, or excuse me, tigers, apparently, that whole stripe thing with them is also to make them blend in with all their surroundings. | ||
| All the trees and the sticks, you know, they live mostly in the jungle. | ||
| So you were asking me before this about the fights. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Because when they wear Counter-Starker, that's why they keep the distance? | ||
| And they know exactly that's... | ||
| This is what I think. | ||
| A lot of people were like pissed off, it was boring, but I think that's because they just want to see people beat the fuck out of each other, which I understand. | ||
| That's why you tune into cage fighting. | ||
| But to me, the way I always describe martial arts is it's high-level problem solving with dire physical consequences. | ||
| And if you run in on Tyron Woodley, you got some dire physical consequences. | ||
| He's a fucking powerhouse. | ||
| And if Woodley charges at Thompson, There's dire physical consequences because he was getting tagged when he would he said it to me after the fight He's like he caught me a few times as I was charging towards him so Woodley has a different style than Thompson Thompson has that wide stance that karate style and he's excellent at moving in and moving out and almost like point fighting you He's just jabbing you hitting you with these Clean left hands, | ||
| sliding out of the way, occasionally throwing kicks, but mostly what he's doing is making you wonder what he's going to do and when he's coming at you. | ||
| And Woodley had to pick his battles and figure out when he could launch himself at him. | ||
| So, at any moment, something could have happened. | ||
| But a lot of shit didn't happen. | ||
| So the people watching at home are like, that was the most boring fight ever. | ||
| It's because those moments are so critical. | ||
| Those moments are so dangerous. | ||
| They would like it to be like Frankie Edgar Grey Maynard, just fucking chaos. | ||
| Punches, throwing, wild. | ||
| It's not going to happen like that. | ||
| You can't do that with Wonderboy. | ||
| You can't charge at him like that. | ||
| He will fucking counter you, and you will be one of those people on his highlight reel. | ||
| So Tyron Woodley was very smart, and that he knew that he couldn't charge at him. | ||
| And Wonderboy, he's not gonna charge at Woodley either. | ||
| I mean, he got almost knocked the fuck out in the first fight. | ||
| He almost got knocked the fuck out in the fifth round of the second fight, too. | ||
| Woodley's a powerhouse, man. | ||
| He hits so goddamn hard. | ||
| So everybody had to be on their toes. | ||
| They both had to be minding their P's and Q's. | ||
| And that translated for a boring fight to a lot of people, but not to me. | ||
| To me, I was like, anything can happen at any moment. | ||
| In the fifth round, it almost did. | ||
| When Woodley connected and Thompson's knees went out, I mean, he slumped. | ||
| He was out, man. | ||
| He was out for at least a half a second or a moment, you know? | ||
| There was a moment where his legs gave out, his body went limp, and they could have stopped the fight right there. | ||
| I'm glad they didn't. | ||
| I'm glad they kept it going. | ||
| I talked to Big John McCarthy in the cage after the fight. | ||
| I go, how close were you to stopping that fight? | ||
| He goes... | ||
| He goes, I wasn't close to stopping that fight. | ||
| I go, but you were looking, right? | ||
| He goes, I was looking. | ||
| I go, you were looking close. | ||
| He goes, I'll never admit it. | ||
| I go, but it was, I mean, he was almost out, right? | ||
| He goes, he was almost out. | ||
| He might have been out for a half a second, but I gave him a chance. | ||
| I go, he did a great job. | ||
| He did an amazing job. | ||
| I mean, that's why Big John McCarthy is so important. | ||
| A guy with that kind of experience. | ||
| And if he fucked that up, everybody would be so mad at him. | ||
| But he did it perfect. | ||
| It was perfect. | ||
| He has the most difficult job in the sport other than the fighters. | ||
| Fighters have the most difficult job. | ||
| Second most difficult job is the referee. | ||
| Third most difficult job is the judges. | ||
| Yeah, I believe so. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Yeah, I believe he's going to interpret it as trauma. | ||
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| Before the other people. | ||
| He has to be at the right angle. | ||
| They're moving around, and they're fast, and they could go to his left, and he could be over here, but something could be happening on their right, and he doesn't even see it. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| Sometimes guys don't see taps. | ||
| Sometimes guys don't see certain eye pokes or groin shots. | ||
| There's a lot of things that can happen. | ||
| A referee's job is insanely difficult, and they only get praise when they fuck up. | ||
| They only rather get attention when they fuck up. | ||
| They don't get any praise when they do a great job. | ||
| They need more. | ||
| More people need to understand how difficult that is. | ||
| So that moment where Tyron finally did connect on Wonderboy, and everybody's like, why didn't you do that earlier? | ||
| Because he could have got knocked the fuck out. | ||
| Like, that was where the opening was. | ||
| Woodley was so aggressive because he was down on the scorecards, at least in his corner's eyes, and in my eyes he was as well, and he had to charge forward, and he had to connect, and he did. | ||
| But to make that happen a lot of things have to be in place You have to understand Wonderboy's timing he had been fighting him for four rounds already He was getting a sense of what Wonderboy could and couldn't do he also knew the consequences He'd been tagged a couple of times So he knew like I can't just rush at him because Wonderboy was trying to time him with that right hook He was standing in the southpaw position with his right leg forward and He throws that front leg side kick to the body. | ||
| He throws it really well because he picks it up from the ground like low and it sort of scoops up. | ||
| So you don't see it coming until it's too late. | ||
| It might not be the most powerful application of the front leg side kick, but it's very sneaky because he slides in with that foot low and then it comes up and stabs you. | ||
| And you don't know if it's going to come up as a sidekick or if it's going to go up and over your shoulder as a round kick. | ||
| You don't know what he's doing. | ||
| He's so sneaky. | ||
| So Tyron had to be very cautious. | ||
| And for a lot of people, it was very boring because of that. | ||
| But I didn't think it was boring while it was happening. | ||
| I was on the edge of my seat. | ||
| I was like, there are moments, there's going to be moments when the shit starts flying. | ||
| And in those moments, that's where the fight becomes amazing. | ||
| But those guys are smart. | ||
| They're not dumb. | ||
| And the belt is so goddamn important. | ||
| When you have the belt, you get to decide. | ||
| You fight all the best fighters. | ||
| You make the money. | ||
| You get the opportunities for the big money fights, like the Conor McGregor type fights. | ||
| Those only happen if you have the belt. | ||
| If you don't have the belt, nobody gives a fuck about you. | ||
| So for a guy like Tyron, man, that belt is everything. | ||
| For a guy like Woodley, or a guy like Wonderboy, rather, that belt is everything. | ||
| If you don't have that belt, you make a fraction of what you make. | ||
| Like, think about that fight. | ||
| That fight's insanely close. | ||
| It was so close, Dominic Cruz afterwards said, that's basically the same fight as the first fight. | ||
| It's like, if you've called the first fight a draw, you could easily call this fight a draw. | ||
| And I agree with him. | ||
| So that means that Wonderboy and Woodley are essentially like so closely matched stylistically that it's a wash, right? | ||
| But meanwhile Woodley's the one who's the champion. | ||
| Woodley's the one who has the potential to fight Conor McGregor. | ||
| Woodley is the one who has the potential to fight Michael Bisping or who else he fights at whatever weight he fights at. | ||
| And that is where the money is. | ||
| So he's the guy who's gonna get the money. | ||
| Whereas Wonderboy, who essentially had a draw with him, proved that he was At least close enough on one fight and just a hair under on the second fight, he's gonna make a fraction of what Woodley makes, likely. | ||
| So, those consequences have to be taken into consideration when you're watching these guys fight, is that they know there's a win bonus and there's a loss. | ||
| If you lose, you get your show money. | ||
| You don't get a bonus. | ||
| But if you win, you get twice the money. | ||
| A lot of guys, the way their contract is structured, they'll make X if they win, and they'll make X plus X. They'll make X plus X if they win, but if they lose, they only make X. So they might be getting $200,000 for the fight, but another $200,000 if they win. | ||
| That's a giant swing. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| So they have to be really fucking careful they don't make mistakes. | ||
| I don't like win bonuses, man. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| I think those guys are trying to win anyway. | ||
| They're trying to win. | ||
| I just think, like, especially in particular in situations like that, when fights are, like, that fucking close. | ||
| Like, a judge can decide whether or not you make an extra 200 grand or don't. | ||
| Like, that seems crazy to me. | ||
| Are you still training? | ||
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Yeah, I'm still training. | |
| I saw you boxing a few weeks ago, right? | ||
| Yeah, I'm back doing jujitsu again, too. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| I was working on a heavy bag last night at the Alberto Crane Academy. | ||
| It was night. | ||
| I came back from Aventura. | ||
| I was teaching a workshop. | ||
| And I need to let go of something. | ||
| I didn't want to lift weight. | ||
| I saw the dojo empty. | ||
| Heavy bags, gloves, etc. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's cool, man. | ||
| Well, heavy bag, I think, is... | ||
| Everybody would do better if they had a heavy bag in their garage. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just go out there and hit that thing. | ||
| It feels good. | ||
| You don't even have to have great form. | ||
| Just go out there and hit it. | ||
| It's so good for your body to just explode and just release tension and stress. | ||
| And for people who have joint issues, they have these water bags. | ||
| It's essentially like a thick layer of... | ||
| The outside is like a thick layer of padding, like a few inches of pad, of foam, and then inside of that is a water bladder. | ||
| It's filled with water. | ||
| So when you punch it, it's like, whoosh, your arm goes into it. | ||
| But you could really dig in and hit it hard, but it doesn't have the same impact on your joints. | ||
| You don't feel it so much on your elbows and your shoulders and stuff, because there's give to it. | ||
| You know, creativity. | ||
| Once in Sicily, you know... | ||
| Have you ever been in Italy? | ||
| Yeah, that was the first time last year I went to Italy. | ||
| Loved it. | ||
| You like it? | ||
| Oh man, I went to Rome, went to the Vatican, saw the Vatican. | ||
| We went to, what is the mountain area? | ||
| Dolomite? | ||
| No, god damn it. | ||
| Alpine? | ||
| It was out near where the volcano killed everybody. | ||
| Vesuvius? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah, we went there and then we went to... | ||
| The Amalfi Coast. | ||
| Amalfi Coast. | ||
| Yes, that's where it was. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| So beautiful, it didn't even seem real. | ||
| It seems like you were in front of a green screen. | ||
| Like you look out, you know, you have to go on this mountain road. | ||
| It's crazy, Joey. | ||
| It's a road that should be one lane. | ||
| Should be one lane, but it's two. | ||
| And there's buses on it. | ||
| Fucking buses. | ||
| And motorcycles. | ||
| Assholes and motorcycles. | ||
| Weaving in and out of cars. | ||
| People in Italy drive like fucking maniacs. | ||
| We all know Italians are kind of crazy. | ||
| I'm mostly Italian, and I know you're fucking crazy. | ||
| Do I have the left-hand steering wheel? | ||
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No, no. | |
| It's regular. | ||
| It's regular. | ||
| It's only left-hand in England and in Japan, South Africa. | ||
| Have you gotten in a car with a left-hand or a right-hand? | ||
| Oh, Australia as well. | ||
| What'd you feel like? | ||
| It's fucking confusing as shit. | ||
| You're like, where are we going? | ||
| Ah, you're on the wrong side! | ||
| If you didn't have a stick driving, it's even worse. | ||
| Oh yeah, because you have the shift with your left hand. | ||
| Oh yeah, but the clutch is still on the left-hand side, right? | ||
| And the pedal's still on the right? | ||
| Yeah, I think I'd adjust... | ||
| But it would be the opposite version. | ||
| Yeah, so this is what it's like on the Amalfa Coast. | ||
| So you're driving on this road. | ||
| This is what it's like. | ||
| That's a two-lane road, Joey. | ||
| There's a fucking bus coming, and you've got to figure out how to get a car past that bus. | ||
| And we were going like, and I'm not exaggerating, a half of a mile an hour trying to get past cars and buses. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| It takes forever to get up there. | ||
| It should take 10 minutes. | ||
| That's the road. | ||
| It should take 10 minutes. | ||
| It takes 90. That I'm not kidding. | ||
| But once you get up to the top, like look at that picture where you're seeing the ocean, Jamie, like up in the right-hand corner, upper right hand, yeah, like there. | ||
| That's what it looks like once you finally get up there, you're like, wow, it's so pretty. | ||
| So pretty, man. | ||
| Italy's amazing. | ||
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The food's out of this world. | |
| Fuck your gluten. | ||
| All your gluten-free bullshit, you better let that go when you're in Italy, bitch. | ||
| So is there a lot of pasta in Italy? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| People here say, nah, you go to Italy, there's nothing like that that's Americanized. | ||
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What? | |
| It's more fish and stuff. | ||
| There's a lot of... | ||
| Well, they definitely eat a lot of fish. | ||
| Now, do they still use gravy, like red sauce? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not so much. | ||
| That's Americanized. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not so much. | ||
| You can get it, though, and I think one of the reasons why you can get it is because probably people have come over there and wanted it, you know? | ||
| Do you remember that episode of Zopranos and the guy ordered... | ||
| He's like, I want gravy. | ||
| And the one waiter looked at the other one, he goes... | ||
| These East Coast Italians, there was classless at the Germans because he ordered spaghetti with gravy. | ||
| That's not big over there. | ||
| When you say gravy, people are like, what is he talking, gravy? | ||
| People think of like gray, like gravy with biscuits. | ||
| Yeah, spaghetti sauce. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| Like Bolognese. | ||
| Bolognese, yeah. | ||
| They had Bolognese last night. | ||
| Yeah, you can get Bolognese over there, but it's just the Americans that came over, they developed a different sort of style of eating. | ||
| Like a lot of meatballs. | ||
| Yeah, like Alfredo, Alfredo. | ||
| You don't like it? | ||
| That's the shit you eat when you come here as an immigrant. | ||
| When I came from Cuba, when you're a white kid, my daughter likes Alfredo. | ||
| That shit's gonna get cut off the menu in like a month. | ||
| No Alfredo in my fucking world. | ||
| Why not Alfredo? | ||
| Because that's what people eat in Iowa. | ||
| That's the first Italian. | ||
| They eat like Alfredo and they love it. | ||
| You know, no, no, no. | ||
| That's like a one-month training thing. | ||
| Like, I even had it out of a fucking jar. | ||
| Like, that's how Alfredo I was. | ||
| Yeah, when I came from Cuba and I tasted Italian food, my mind blew up. | ||
| You know, I was into all angles of it, but the red sauce was last. | ||
| I like fucking Alfredo with fucking those thick noodle sauce. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| That's what you give to a fucking horse. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| No! | ||
| I like Alfredo sauce with chicken and broccoli. | ||
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Oh, no! | |
| Little mushrooms. | ||
| Come on, Jamie. | ||
| Is it good, right? | ||
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It's good. | |
| You grow out of that. | ||
| I grew out of that. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| It's not my first choice, but I like it. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| But I never heard about that since I moved here. | ||
| When I moved here in 92, 93, everybody was asking me, do you like Fettuccino Alfredo? | ||
| I said, I don't even know who they are. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| They said, yeah, you are no Italian. | ||
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I said, no, I'm from Italy, they pass for sale. | |
| You don't know Italian. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
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It's like going somewhere in another country and tell you. | |
| Cheeseburger is not American. | ||
| What are the meals? | ||
| So you have bolognese, you have arrabbiata, you have pasta fagioli, you have... | ||
| The location? | ||
| They call it the real name like Pasta Vagioli. | ||
| Pasta Vagioli. | ||
| Yeah, they don't call it Pasta Vazul. | ||
| Well, that's New Jersey, Pasta Vazul. | ||
| But then what's in the... | ||
| Like, we can't get that stuff here in Caledonia. | ||
| What's in that? | ||
| The gabaguch. | ||
| Not the gabaguch. | ||
| The other one. | ||
| The green stuff. | ||
| The stuff that gets your dick hard. | ||
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The what? | |
| The what? | ||
| I thought it was a blue one. | ||
| What do you put in pasta? | ||
| You put beans and the green stuff. | ||
| It's not spinach. | ||
| The pesto? | ||
| Pasta pesto? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not spinach? | ||
| It's two things. | ||
| So you're talking about a type of vegetable? | ||
| Escarole and beans. | ||
| Oh, escarole. | ||
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Oh! | |
| That shit. | ||
| Escarole gets you a dick hard? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| I think your dick was just getting hard. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| You were just looking for a reason. | ||
| You make that shit in November. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You know, I ate pasta. | ||
| When I first tasted it, I ate it every day for like 40 days. | ||
| When I first went to my friend's house, I went from 160 to 194. Just eating pasta for Azul twice a day. | ||
| That sounds like the army. | ||
| That's the only thing they were giving you. | ||
| Oh, lifting weights and pasta for Azul? | ||
| You get yoked, Jack. | ||
| It's like taking D-ball. | ||
| You get yoked! | ||
| YOKED! Just pop those beans, that escarol, and that in the winter with all that garlic and stuff, you're off and running, brother. | ||
| They did have a lot of fish. | ||
| Like, they had amazing seafood. | ||
| That's what we're talking about to drive up. | ||
| The Amalfi Coast, they had amazing seafood. | ||
| But the pasta was like a very light sauce. | ||
| Like, you know, if you went to a good place and got like linguine vangole, they'll give you a linguine with a very light olive oil and garlic sauce with the linguine and like that is the kind of pasta. | ||
| Like it's a very much more delicate pasta. | ||
| Yeah, because you want to taste the fish. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You don't want to cover the flavor. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's why if you try to go to a real Italian restaurant, you ask for cheese, like grated cheese on linguine vangole, they'll look at you like you're a fucking monster. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| You're not going to put the cheese on the top of the fish. | ||
| Yeah, they'll say it's not recommend. | ||
| Not recommend. | ||
| They'll look at you like, mmm, don't do it. | ||
| And you're like, no, no, no, no, come on. | ||
| Come on, hit me with it. | ||
| Like, Kevin James and I used to always get linguine clams, and he would get pissed if they didn't come over with the cheese. | ||
| Like, where's the guy with the cheese? | ||
| We've got to have the grated cheese. | ||
| And you would try to put it on, like, at a good restaurant. | ||
| They would get upset with you. | ||
| They don't want you putting that cheese on it. | ||
| If you have, like, spaghetti bolognese or something like that, they'll ask you, would you like some cheese? | ||
| And then that makes sense. | ||
| They don't even come near you. | ||
| They'll try to stay away from your side of the table if you've got linguine with clams. | ||
| They don't want to give it to you. | ||
| And even red wine. | ||
| Red wine with the fish. | ||
| They get mad. | ||
| Yeah, they get mad. | ||
| You're supposed to drink white wine with fish. | ||
| White wine with fish. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They get that upset with you? | ||
| I don't drink white wine. | ||
| I don't like white wine. | ||
| I drink barely, but red wine is better than white for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'll drink white, but I don't order it. | ||
| Like, if somebody pours me a glass, I'm not going to be... | ||
| It's not awful, but if I have a choice, it's always red. | ||
| I like red. | ||
| Red, to me, it's like, it's got a flavor that's, like, compelling. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| It's, like, it's alive. | ||
| White wine is like chick drink. | ||
| Sorry, girls. | ||
| I drank a fucking... | ||
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Sexist! | |
| My mom used to have a bar and she'd... | ||
| At night when we'd go home, when I was real young, like four or five in New York City, my mom would have a little glass of red wine. | ||
| The wine with the fucking Italian paperwork on it that... | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like that shit. | ||
| So I was maybe four, maybe five, and I would watch her. | ||
| One night I watched her go to bed and I said, fuck it. | ||
| And I took that bottle of wine and I fucking drank the whole thing. | ||
| She woke up like six hours later, couldn't find me. | ||
| Called the police, I was missing. | ||
| You were drunk as fuck. | ||
| In the closet, shit, puked. | ||
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I never drank wine again until about eight years ago. | |
| I would smell it and still get sick. | ||
| You get sick, huh? | ||
| Your brain remembers. | ||
| She would tell me all the time, you'll never like wine because you got so hammered that time. | ||
| We called the cops, we did everything, they couldn't fucking find you. | ||
| Alberto, what's your martial arts background? | ||
| I started with boxing, regular boxing. | ||
| Then I found that that time was like 82. Big things in Italy was full-contact karate. | ||
| I remember all those big names, Benny the Jet. | ||
| Yeah, Benny the Jet Arquides. | ||
| He's from right out here, man. | ||
| He's from North Hollywood. | ||
| I used to train in his gym when I first came here, when I first came to California. | ||
| Jerry Blank, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jerry Blank was down in... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Blinky Rodriguez, he was out here as well. | ||
| He's Benny's brother-in-law. | ||
| And then Muay Thai came. | ||
| And I fell in love with Muay Thai. | ||
| That was my big thing. | ||
| Boy, that Muay Thai fucking changed everybody's eyes. | ||
| As soon as you realize how hard it is to get kicked in the legs. | ||
| Oh, wait, what? | ||
| Yeah, and I was like everybody. | ||
| I never tried. | ||
| The first time I went, I said, okay, this is going to be nothing different. | ||
| It's like a roundhouse kick in the legs. | ||
| And they hit me. | ||
| I couldn't walk for a couple of days. | ||
| Shins, man. | ||
| And I fell in love. | ||
| Muay Thai, I started to compete in Muay Thai. | ||
| Yeah, karate style with the shin, where the instep rather, when you're kicking with the top of the foot, everybody had this idea like that was the way to do it. | ||
| And then the moment you get kicked with a shin, you go, oh, all right. | ||
| And I got a lot of injury for kicking on the instep. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| On my ankle was. | ||
| Yeah, you get acclastic devastated. | ||
| So I need to recondition it on my foot, like we discussed in the beginning, right? | ||
| So it's a shin kick, change. | ||
| Then during the past, you know, for the security, I start to investigate different styles, different styles. | ||
| The guy that changed my way to see things, transferred not to competition, but to my line of duty, was a guy in Israel. | ||
| Because he's been in two or four wars, he's a real man, he's become like a second father for me. | ||
| He always told me, he's the spirit. | ||
| I don't care the way you punch, the way you kick, until your mindset is not on point. | ||
| It's not going to be ready to do something for real. | ||
| So they can tell you, do karate, do jujitsu, do that. | ||
| But if your mindset, real things, when you go to war, you need to apply these things for real. | ||
| It's changing. | ||
| I think he's right, but he's also not right. | ||
| Because I think he's right in the sense that your mindset must be correct in order for you to apply any sort of martial arts in actual competition. | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| But it's always important to have the right technique. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no, no, no. | ||
| Maybe I miss saying. | ||
| I was working already on... | ||
| He never believed in the Krav Maga. | ||
| He's an Israeli guy. | ||
| He introduced the jiu-jitsu a lot. | ||
| Introduced the jiu-jitsu, introduced the BJJ and his system, introduced a lot of boxing and Muay Thai. | ||
| So you need to have the full aspect of that. | ||
| And then, of course, if you go into the... | ||
| If you were training all the special forces there, the secret service, you need to have the right guy to do that. | ||
| Some people are not ready to be a warrior. | ||
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Right. | |
| They can train like a warrior, but now a warrior. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I can only imagine. | ||
| Especially like Krav Maga in the United States. | ||
| There's legit Krav Maga schools in the United States, for sure. | ||
| There's really good instruction. | ||
| There's really good people. | ||
| But there's also a lot of fucking horse shit. | ||
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Right. | |
| Just like with karate. | ||
| There's a lot of mall karate where you go to these places and it might be fine for little kids. | ||
| They're learning a little martial arts, learning a little discipline. | ||
| They have goals. | ||
| You know, I want to get my orange belt and they get it and they get excited and it's good for them. | ||
| It's good for their mind. | ||
| But it's really critical when you're learning a martial art, one of the most important things is find a legitimate instructor. | ||
| It's the most important thing. | ||
| Because relearning things is so hard. | ||
| Back when I was teaching, when I taught someone, if they didn't know anything, they came to me with no martial arts experience. | ||
| It was so much easier than if someone came to me with bad martial arts experience. | ||
| Because if you took karate for a few years from some bozo and you did everything all wrong, I would have to re-teach you. | ||
| So when you would panic, if you would get nervous, you would go right back to that old way. | ||
| Like as soon as someone puts pressure on you, you would go right back to the old shitty technique. | ||
| That's exactly what... | ||
| It's all about what is your... | ||
| The learning and the movement database is in your brain is the same position. | ||
| So whatever you achieve, you put in the database is wrong. | ||
| And the stress is going to repeat the same things. | ||
| That's for everything, man. | ||
| For everything, yeah. | ||
| Even for pool. | ||
| Like, there's certain techniques that people learn where they don't learn how to do pool correctly. | ||
| You only play in billiards, you stand the wrong way, and you get used to it. | ||
| And when you're in a match and there's a lot on the line, you go right back to the old ways, even if you take lessons. | ||
| It's so important that when you learn things in life, to learn them right the first time. | ||
| That's why when you're growing up as a human being, I think it's been an issue with me, I think it's been an issue with you as well, when your childhood is kind of fucking crazy. | ||
| Like you develop these ways of thinking and acting as a child that are very difficult to break. | ||
| As you get older and as an adult, it's like you have this foundation that's very faulty. | ||
| And you have to be cognizantly aware. | ||
| You have to be consciously aware of that, okay, this foundation is fucked up because I grew up with domestic violence and I grew up with, you know, no dad. | ||
| And so I have to make sure that I don't fall into these... | ||
| Patterns that I had established in my head when I was 8, 9, and 10, and 11. As you're growing up as an adult, this is the way you're looking at life. | ||
| And then you have to kind of restructure it. | ||
| It's almost like you're starting over. | ||
| But if you meet someone who has like... | ||
| Great father and a great mother and they grow up and they have like a great fundamental balance But there's those people used to always make me nervous when I was a kid Because I was always like God like these how do they I don't even know anybody like that I don't know like I would feel like Inferior to them like when I was around people that had like a good childhood. | ||
| I would feel inferior. | ||
| I still do do you sure I feel weird. | ||
| I have friends that I think about them now and I go, I want to really interview their parents. | ||
| Like, what did they do to get this kid to be such a fucking... | ||
| What was their recipe to get this child to be fucking a superhuman being? | ||
| And I'm not talking about Julius Irving's father or fucking GSP's dad. | ||
| I'm talking about people who you meet in life that are really fair... | ||
| That are really kind. | ||
| I look at those people and I go, I wondered what their parents did with them to have that ability to want to help people and go out of their way. | ||
| I always think about that shit, especially now as a parent. | ||
| You're like, what is the fucking chemistry of love for them to understand? | ||
| You know, we were talking on the way up here when my mother died. | ||
| You know, it was the 70s. | ||
| And let's face it, we were still Spicks in that New Jersey neighborhood. | ||
| You know, in Boston and those areas, you hear things. | ||
| But I remember those Italian kids coming to my mom's wake, and they couldn't make eye contact with me. | ||
| The same ones that would say Spick or whatever, because I short-circuited them. | ||
| I broke them, because the number one word in Italy is mama. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| When you're Italian, everything is mama. | ||
| They would come to that wake, and I would short-circuit them, because they never could think of that situation happening to them. | ||
| And I'm still friends with those people today. | ||
| And I always wondered why, you know, who raised them, that they're super great people. | ||
| And then you come here, to a place like California, and you meet people, and they have nice parents or whatever, but they're just the biggest scumbags in the fucking world. | ||
| That's what interests me in my life. | ||
| I always feel like those people, the parents probably weren't around that much. | ||
| They might be really nice people, but they weren't around to really install the right ideals and values and morals in their system. | ||
| Maybe the parents were off at fucking swinger parties or some shit. | ||
| I always look at that with even the kids I grew up with. | ||
| I have a friend that his dad was little But his mother was solid. | ||
| When you say his dad was a little, you mean gay? | ||
| He'll put a bullet in your fucking eyeball. | ||
| He'll put a bullet in your eyeball? | ||
| At lunch. | ||
| I mean, when I would hang out with him, people's parents would come to me and go, I wouldn't be going over there if I was you. | ||
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Really? | |
| Did you see the article on his dad? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, he's a psycho? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He was... | ||
| Crazy? | ||
| Just a street guy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And, you know, today the kid is one of my best friends. | ||
| Never had a problem. | ||
| Never had a law problem. | ||
| Never... | ||
| No record. | ||
| Never ticket. | ||
| Married. | ||
| Children. | ||
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School. | |
| Well, you know there's people that grow up with horrible environments and they come out amazing and then their brothers and sisters are all in jail. | ||
| It's weird how a person makes choices in their life... | ||
| That really establishes their entire life. | ||
| And a lot of those choices, man, I hate to say it, but it could be luck. | ||
| They could have made a lucky choice early on, and that lucky choice led them down a better road than someone who's made a poor choice. | ||
| Like kids that get involved in the juvenile detention system when they're really young, boy, that fucks them up so hard. | ||
| The percentages are horrible. | ||
| The percentages are horrible. | ||
| And good friends. | ||
| Good people around you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And can tell you the right things. | ||
| Even if it's hard when it's telling you the truth. | ||
| It sounds like a smack behind the head, but make you open your eyes, make you say, you know what? | ||
| Once you put a kid in one of those gladiator prisons, the percentages, it's like we were just talking about that movie that came out, Sleepers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All four of them went away. | ||
| Two of them came out to become Westies. | ||
| The other two came out to be decent, the percentages. | ||
| It's 50 fucking percent. | ||
| And that's on the conservative side. | ||
| It's gotta be higher. | ||
| Once you get that first tattoo... | ||
| And smoke that first cigarette. | ||
| All those things, your percentages go deeper and deeper, you know. | ||
| Once you get the tattooed knuckles that say fuck, you're doomed. | ||
| You know, Mike Tyson got the face tattoo at 40. Everything had already, all the bad stuff out of his life had already come through. | ||
| But if Mike Tyson would have came with that face tattoo at 18, you know, it's so weird, like, how I saw it. | ||
| I saw people on the bottom that today, they're successful and the police records don't matter or nothing matters. | ||
| And then I saw other people who were like sneaky people. | ||
| Who now they're in trouble for tax evasion. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like there's always... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My mother was a big thing for me. | ||
| Like you say, mama. | ||
| Mama is a big part. | ||
| My mother she always told me, give more than you want to receive. | ||
| Give double. | ||
| It was a big story. | ||
| Be straight to people. | ||
| Don't fool around yourself. | ||
| So you're not going to fool around people. | ||
| I believe that thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It also helps if you know people that work hard. | ||
| When I was a kid, my best friends had jobs. | ||
| They worked hard. | ||
| They were constantly working. | ||
| They were always working. | ||
| At a young age? | ||
| Yeah, my friend Jimmy Utilio and Jimmy Lawless. | ||
| I'm still buddies with them to this day. | ||
| But we were in high school. | ||
| Those fucking guys always worked. | ||
| In high school? | ||
| Yeah, in high school. | ||
| Always worked. | ||
| Always worked. | ||
| Had construction jobs. | ||
| Always worked. | ||
| I had construction jobs too because my dad was an architect. | ||
| My stepdad always set me up with... | ||
| These construction crews and stuff. | ||
| So I did these jobs. | ||
| And so it gave me the understanding that if you've never worked hard and you don't know what the fuck hard work is, then all of a sudden you're 18 and then you're in college and then you got out of college and then you have to get a job. | ||
| You have no real experience with actual difficult work. | ||
| I just don't think you appreciate what it takes to get by. | ||
| Growing up, seeing people that had a strong work ethic and realizing that that wasn't something that I had, but maybe it was something that I need to consider as being a very important skill, a very important trait. | ||
| The ability to, like, just actually get shit done. | ||
| To get up in the morning when your alarm clock goes off and go. | ||
| You're uncomfortable. | ||
| You want to stay in bed. | ||
| It's cold out. | ||
| You don't want to do it. | ||
| That ability to just do it. | ||
| Just get up and do it. | ||
| You know that old Nike fucking slogan, just do it? | ||
| It's one of the best fucking slogans of all time. | ||
| You know how many people actually went out and worked out just because of that, just do it? | ||
| That might have been like the most effective ad campaign in the history of ad campaigns. | ||
| When it came to actually getting people to do things that are uncomfortable and something that actually made sense, just do it. | ||
| So fucking, so important. | ||
| It's so important. | ||
| You just gotta fucking get things done. | ||
| And for so many people, like you were talking about at the beginning of the podcast, Joey, that book, The War of Art, where it talks about resistance. | ||
| There's so many people that just fuck off. | ||
| They fuck off, and they don't get the things done that they need to get done, and that haunts them. | ||
| We know it as comics. | ||
| We know so many guys that don't write new material. | ||
| They just don't. | ||
| They just don't. | ||
| They don't work. | ||
| They don't work. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because when you have new material, man, sometimes it doesn't go well. | ||
| Sometimes you bomb. | ||
| Sometimes you go up and it's clunky. | ||
| It's not ready. | ||
| And when you do a special, like when you just released a special, you know what it's like. | ||
| That material's dead now. | ||
| And so now you have to write all new material and you have a bunch of people that are coming to pay to see you. | ||
| Oh my God, it's out. | ||
| Oh, you're panicking. | ||
| It's out. | ||
| I'm panicking. | ||
| And the shows aren't always good. | ||
| Yeah, I panic every fucking week every week when I go on the road I panic because I do not have a full 50 minutes that snow I got a couple fucking minutes and I'm trying out new shit constantly constantly, but it comes together slowly but surely together But it's just like anything else. | ||
| It's sticking with it. | ||
| Right now I'm in a slump. | ||
| So what do you do as a baseball player? | ||
| Jamie, when you're in a slump, what do you do as a baseball player? | ||
| You quit? | ||
| No! | ||
| You keep fucking hitting. | ||
| And you keep striking out, and you keep fucking striking out, and you keep it together. | ||
| You cannot lose it. | ||
| I.K.A. Tony Perez, 1976-75 against the Boston Red Sox. | ||
| He went 0-17 in the series, and in Game 7 he hit the single that changed. | ||
| They won the World Series, really. | ||
| So he could have just said, I don't want to do it. | ||
| I know I'm in a comedian slump. | ||
| Well, not anymore now. | ||
| But like in December and January, it was fucking heavy, Jack. | ||
| But you just got to work yourself through it. | ||
| Yeah, there's no other way. | ||
| You just get yourself through it. | ||
| It's the weirdest thing. | ||
| There's no other way. | ||
| There's no other way. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| And for me, I could lie to you and say, well, I'm not going to get on stage. | ||
| I'm going to stay home and write for the next three months. | ||
| That's not good enough. | ||
| Wrong answer, Jack. | ||
| That's not gonna work. | ||
| It's not good enough. | ||
| You gotta keep going to the well. | ||
| Like, right now I have a problem. | ||
| You know, last year, I have such a fear of being on my back in jujitsu that it fucking made me... | ||
| I will not quit. | ||
| I will not quit. | ||
| Because what happens if I'm with Joe, I'm with my family one day, and I get kicked in the stomach, and I'm on my back, am I gonna panic? | ||
| So I cannot fucking quit. | ||
| So I kept going back to jujitsu. | ||
| But the weird thing was I was doing it wrong. | ||
| Even though I was putting in the mat time, I wasn't working on my breathing. | ||
| I thought that by me going three times a week and doing what a fighter does, stay in the... | ||
| And that fighting three times a year that my breathing would come together. | ||
| It would come together, but in little... | ||
| not good delivery. | ||
| Like, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, the time I'd put in for what I'd get back wasn't rewarding enough. | ||
| Like, I would think of going... | ||
| You needed a different approach? | ||
| So, and then I started doing those little things with Alberto in the back when I get there, the breathing. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| I'm a big boy. | ||
| You don't have to tell me, dick. | ||
| I know I got something wrong with the back of my head with that fear shit. | ||
| And it's with the needles. | ||
| And what did I do with the needles, dog? | ||
| I could faint walking into a doctor's office. | ||
| I could smell cotton. | ||
| I can't smell shit. | ||
| I could smell fucking cotton when I walk into a doctor's office. | ||
| I could smell that light. | ||
| Because it associates with fear. | ||
| Tremendous. | ||
| When I walk into a doctor's office, my blood pressure is 190 over 160, dog. | ||
| They look at me and go, how are you walking? | ||
| I go, take a hike. | ||
| Come back in 10 minutes. | ||
| And once my doctor comes back and he starts talking to me and we talk about Chicago and hot beef sandwiches, he goes, watch this. | ||
| And it's 140 over 80. I think you're right, huh? | ||
| I know. | ||
| I lived through this. | ||
| I lived through this. | ||
| It's all about, for me, when I train people, you know, I try to say, okay, you're doing 10 push-ups, and if you come to the 8, the number 8, and you see that you start to struggle, that's it. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| I don't allow you to do a bad... | ||
| Number. | ||
| Number nine, because I know number nine is going to be a bad push-up. | ||
| So a bad form. | ||
| So what happens? | ||
| When you're going to be under stress, you're going to be repeating the bad form. | ||
| So for me, I try to remap you, like you said before when you were teaching, remap you in the way that you always try to achieve The best. | ||
| Like you said, just do it. | ||
| What I say, okay, you need to repeat the things until you never do it wrong. | ||
| Don't do it right. | ||
| You never do it wrong. | ||
| Because do it right once, it can come from luckiness. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a lucky shot. | ||
| I want you to learn how to do it right every single time. | ||
| And that's when we can step forward to the next level. | ||
| Do you subscribe to that Pavel Tatsulini? | ||
| You know, he's got that strong first ideology where you don't do the failure ever. | ||
| I do that now. | ||
| That's how I do all my work. | ||
| I don't lift to failure, ever. | ||
| Like, say if I could do ten reps or something, I do five. | ||
| And then I wait like ten minutes and I do another five. | ||
| Then I wait ten minutes, I'll do another five. | ||
| Then I wait ten minutes, I'll do another five. | ||
| And the idea being that it's more important to do more workouts in the week with low repetition than it is to do a high-repetition workout. | ||
| Where that guy's like, come on, spot me! | ||
| Last one! | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Your body's not designed to do that. | ||
| Your body's not designed to be at failure, ever. | ||
| So what you're supposed to do is build yourself up so you're doing these exercises. | ||
| And he says that you should think of them as a skill. | ||
| That strength is a skill. | ||
| So each exercise you're doing, you don't want to be tired when you're doing a skill. | ||
| You don't want to be completely exhausted when you're trying to pull back a bow and arrow or shoot a ball and pull. | ||
| What you want to do is you want to have that cemented in your mind, what he calls greasing the groove. | ||
| Like, each time you do it, you do it perfect, you do it with perfect form, and you just do low repetitions with heavy weights. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You know, Power and Strong First, I believe, is another amazing school. | ||
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Yes. | |
| School of strength. | ||
| And one of my coaches of strength conditioning is from that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, yeah, that's what I'm doing for myself, even because of those old flights, you know, my jet lag, my CNS, my scenario system is already... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What I do, when I train, maybe every four weeks, I try to do one or two reps at 95%. | ||
| I never try to do a personal record. | ||
| I always like to work like 85%, few reps. | ||
| So even psychologically, I know that I can handle the good form at that level, never going to stress out. | ||
| For people who are interested in this, go to Pavel. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff online, but I think some of the best stuff online is him on the Tim Ferriss podcast. | ||
| Really excellent stuff. | ||
| And he's got his own books out there, and he's got books on tape, and he's got videos, and you can see a lot of his videos. | ||
| His method is so good. | ||
| It's so smart. | ||
| And it's made big differences with me. | ||
| First of all, it's cut my injuries down radically. | ||
| Like, radically. | ||
| Because I would be doing these, you know, 12, 15 repetitions with heavy weight and, like, barely getting the 13th one. | ||
| And then the 14th. | ||
| And then, you know, your form gets all fucking sloppy, your back's bending in a weird way, and it's terrible for you. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| We've been told like that. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Just push, you know, no pain, no gain. | ||
| That was... | ||
| Poor shit. | ||
| No, that's not how you... | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| But now, I'm lucky that I have weights at home, so I have kettlebells at home, so I can do it four days a week, five days a week, and I'll work out for an hour. | ||
| I just go in there. | ||
| It's 8 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| I start lifting. | ||
| I'm done in an hour, and I'm not even exhausted. | ||
| Not only am I not exhausted, I feel kind of pumped up and kind of charged. | ||
| But I'm not like, oh. | ||
| Like, I used to work out sometimes. | ||
| Like, back in the day, I would do lifts. | ||
| And by the time the lift was over, I was lightheaded. | ||
| My legs were shaking. | ||
| I could barely walk. | ||
| You don't have the energy left to do things. | ||
| And then I would try to go to jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| I would just get mauled. | ||
| I just couldn't do it. | ||
| I know I'd be fucking wrecked for like two or three days. | ||
| So I'd be really nervous to lift in the morning and then do jiu-jitsu at night because I would know that I was going to be operating at like 50% or 60%. | ||
| I'd just get my ass kicked. | ||
| But if you do kettlebells with low repetitions, even with heavy weight, you could do a real good workout and then that night you could work jiu-jitsu and you could be 100%. | ||
| Now, what's this guy's name? | ||
| Or close to? | ||
| Pavel. | ||
| Pavel Tatsui. | ||
| Oh, Pavel Tatsui also... | ||
| Tatsulini. | ||
| Kalabib. | ||
| He also wanted... | ||
| He wants you to finish the kettlebell workout energized. | ||
| He doesn't want you to finish it mort. | ||
| He doesn't want that at all. | ||
| I read that about him. | ||
| He wants you to finish there ready to go take on the world. | ||
| And I tell you, I called Joe, and I go, Joe, I gotta talk to you. | ||
| I go, you gave me the kettlebells. | ||
| I love doing the cleans. | ||
| I love doing the swings. | ||
| But, you know, I try to do 10 sets of 10, 12 swings in 10 minutes. | ||
| And I would do that, and I'd achieve my goal, and I'd be very happy, but then I couldn't go to jiu-jitsu for three days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what the fuck did I do? | ||
| I'm 53. Right. | ||
| You know, but I would go. | ||
| I did it. | ||
| And then I'd do five sets of cleans with two 35s, and then strand, and then jump rope, and then try to do sit-ups, and then for three days, I'm dog shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm dog shit. | ||
| And I called him up, and he goes, then dog, cut it in half. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then I said, you know what? | ||
| I'm only going to do my weights now on the road. | ||
| When I go to a hotel now, every two weeks, I work every other week, I'll hit the dumbbells and do the elliptical, but when I'm in town, I'll just do the tack fit in the beginning, a little jujitsu, and then I'll do a tack fit at the end. | ||
| And you know what, man? | ||
| I don't want to walk around hunched up when I'm 60. I got a four-year-old. | ||
| I got to be around and be... | ||
| I like that I can touch my toes. | ||
| You know, I like all this stuff. | ||
| But one thing I noticed about TACFIT, that there's a couple moves that they put in there. | ||
| I don't know if you did it or somebody did it. | ||
| That they're jujitsu friendly. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Like... | |
| The movement, you know, if you look at when... | ||
| If you look, even the kids rolling around when it's in this early stage, you go to some, you know, double S, they can transfer to a shin box or whatever. | ||
| You can go into the... | ||
| rolling into the guards. | ||
| You got to talk up to him, Mike. | ||
| Oh, sorry, sorry. | ||
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So you can see, you know, moving is movement. | |
| So what my coach started to do is start to analyze those movements and try to get mechanical information about those movements. | ||
| But they apply very well on transition for some Jiu-Jitsu move. | ||
| And that's another thing that Alberto was blowing his mind. | ||
| He said, if I get the guys to move better, It's gonna be easier for me to pass the technique because the body already knows it. | ||
| One of the things that Eddie found is that guys who are break dancers excelled in Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| There's a kid who fought this past weekend, Lando Venata. | ||
| Groovy Lando fought this past weekend. | ||
| He fought David Tamer. | ||
| Crazy fight. | ||
| It was a co-main event. | ||
| Lando has only been striking for six years and he's phenomenal. | ||
| But what happened was he started with a BMX background. | ||
| He was a pro BMX racer and was like apparently like a national champion BMX and that pumping, pumping bike legs, you know, just being able to like generate extreme speed off the line. | ||
| He developed this explosive ability to use his legs. | ||
| And so that, like, having cross-training, whether it's through tack fit, or whether it's through yoga, or whether it's through kettlebells, or breakdancing, or anything else. | ||
| Soccer for Aldo? | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| Soccer for all those Brazilian kickboxes and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, sprinting, all that sprinting they do, and all the kicking they do in soccer. | ||
| Learning how to move your body. | ||
| Like, look at what's going on with Conor McGregor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that Ido Portal guy. | ||
| He's concentrating so much on movement, and movement is just a huge factor in his success because his ability to dictate, like, where... | ||
| First of all, his ability to move in and out is better than almost anybody's. | ||
| His ability to get out of the way and his ability to move in closely and move like a fucking snake. | ||
| Like he's on the outside, and boom, he's in. | ||
| And he's in before you know it. | ||
| And these complicated, sort of tricky moves to try to time and follow. | ||
| Very, very difficult guy to time. | ||
| And a lot of that comes from constant application of all this movement theory and movement training. | ||
| And the more you can move your body any way you want, the more you're going to be able to move your body any way you want in competition. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| At the end of the day, like you said at the beginning, you can call it Taffy, SFG, Ido, as long as the coach is in charge. | ||
| He's really smart. | ||
| He understands how to mop you down. | ||
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That's good. | |
| Yeah, and Nick Curzon we were talking about. | ||
| What he's into is all plyometrics, man. | ||
| He barely has these guys lifting weights. | ||
| He's got guys jumping over hurdles and stuff and doing all these leaping back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. | ||
| He's all about movement in a plyometric way, in an explosive way. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons why he gets such great results out of his fighters. | ||
| It's because they developed this extraordinary ability to close the distance. | ||
| Extraordinary ability to get out of the way. | ||
| You know, the ability to move and then to stop what you're doing and then counter quickly. | ||
| You know, all that stuff is just so giant, man. | ||
| Now, how does this CrossFit fit into everything we're discussing right now? | ||
| Because Studio City is the fucking capital of CrossFit. | ||
| You know, you can't go anywhere in Studio City without seeing five guys my age running down the street with a 50-pound plate over their head. | ||
| And I'm sitting there going, something's not right here. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I can't tell you what I think. | ||
| I think CrossFit, at the beginning, has a brilliant idea. | ||
| It was bringing back a lot of things that were disappearing, like Olympic weightlifting and gymnastics and stuff, so I think it was good. | ||
| It started to ruin the things when the games came, when they become a really unofficial sport and people just get crazy. | ||
| It's a competition, so they're just training with that goal. | ||
| I need to beat that cup time, I need to beat that things, and they don't understand. | ||
| It's going to kill you. | ||
| At that speed, at that timing, it's going to be too much. | ||
| A lot of injuries, I hear. | ||
| Yeah, but it needs tendons, ligaments, muscles. | ||
| It needs time to adapt. | ||
| And if you're taking a weightlifter, he spends an entire life to learn that kind of movement perfectly. | ||
| Never screw the movement. | ||
| And how many reps he does in his competition. | ||
| One. | ||
| You can't do that kind of athletic jazz movement so fast, even if you reduce the weight, because you can't control one, two, three reps, and then you might be using up. | ||
| I was talking to Michael Lach. | ||
| Michael Lach was one of the most successful CrossFit coaches, especially here in South California. | ||
| He used to own a big CrossFit gym in Van Nuys. | ||
| And he was telling me about it. | ||
| He has more experience than me, of course, CrossFit. | ||
| That was his business. | ||
| He told me, I believe that if you do it when you are 20 years old or something like this, into the 30, you can speed a little bit. | ||
| Then if you are smart enough, you understand that then you need to slow down. | ||
| If you train CrossFit without thinking, Cup time. | ||
| Try to see online how much this guy did. | ||
| So I want to beat this guy. | ||
| You're just training smartly. | ||
| You do your weightlifting, your rings. | ||
| It's going to be good. | ||
| But if you just take it as a sport, It's just conditioning you for that part, such as CrossFit. | ||
| You can, in conditioning for Jiu-Jitsu, try to do a CrossFit wood with the cup time, because, like you say, you're going to destroy yourself. | ||
| You keep saying cup time. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Oh, you know, cup time is like, okay, you're supposed to do this wood, and let's say... | ||
| Wood. | ||
| W-O day. | ||
| Workout of the day. | ||
| Workout of the day. | ||
| In 30 minutes. | ||
| Let's say you're supposed to finish in 30 minutes. | ||
| Maybe you. | ||
| Maybe for me it takes 25 minutes. | ||
| I'm not sure about it. | ||
| I will do it in 25 minutes because I know that I can't control my movement. | ||
| I'm not going to get an injury. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| But most of the people, they go online because now they want to see how much time. | ||
| And he was telling me, it's crazy. | ||
| They need to rebuild the site, the website. | ||
| And put more power because people, they go, when they wake up in the morning, they're going to see, okay, what is the word of the day this time? | ||
| Then when they go to work, they're going to go online again and see, okay, East Coast, they already probably did, all right, that's the average time. | ||
| All right, so I'm going back. | ||
| The time I finish the work, they go online again to see, okay, now East Coast, this is the time. | ||
| Now I go to the gym. | ||
| I try to do and put my time in. | ||
| In the evening, I go to see if someone beat me. | ||
| So they go into this loop thing that they want to compete. | ||
| Always compete. | ||
| Always compete for time. | ||
| Then you're going to kill yourself. | ||
| Well, Steve Maxwell said that he believes that what you're doing is when you're lifting and you're doing these Olympic lifts, you should be doing Olympic lifts to get you stronger for another sport, for a competition. | ||
| He doesn't believe that it should be a sport in itself. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he also said that he doesn't believe in Olympic lifts for high repetition. | ||
| He's like, it's just a recipe for injury. | ||
| He goes, if you're doing cleans and presses, you watch Olympic lifters, they do one rep. | ||
| One rep? | ||
| Yeah, they're not doing it 30 times in a row. | ||
| And can it be done? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know what else can happen? | ||
| You can drop that weight in your head and die. | ||
| Because your body's failing. | ||
| Because you did 14 reps and everybody's going, come on! | ||
| Come on, Alberto! | ||
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One more day! | |
| And your arms just literally give out and that thing paralyzes you. | ||
| That has happened. | ||
| That happened already. | ||
| Yeah, it has happened. | ||
| But like you're saying, it's a sport, so if you want to do games or competition, you need to train that way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, there's guys that can do it and they do do it. | ||
| There's those Rich Froning guy that wins it every year. | ||
| There's guys that can do it and they do do it. | ||
| But you, the person who's listening to this, the average human being, you are way better off following a strong first method. | ||
| Or like your method, or what Pavel teaches, where you lift the weights, but you don't go to failure. | ||
| You use great technique. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And if you want to get endurance, run up a fucking hill. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Do rounds on a heavy bag. | ||
| You want endurance? | ||
| Do sprints on a heavy bag. | ||
| You know what I do? | ||
| I have a timer, and I set it for three minutes, and every 30 seconds, a buzzer goes off. | ||
| So there's a bell, and then every 30 seconds there's a buzzer. | ||
| And when those 30 seconds hit, you fucking sprint. | ||
| So it's 30 seconds, ba-ba-ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-ba-boom, ba-ba-ba-boom. | ||
| Just go fucking crazy for 30 seconds, and then the next buzzer hits. | ||
| So the next 30 seconds is so light. | ||
| The next 30 seconds, I'm just sort of going through the motions. | ||
| So I'm kicking and punching, and I'm waiting for that fucking buzzer. | ||
| And that buzzer goes off, and then I go off again. | ||
| Just do that if you want endurance. | ||
| That'll give you phenomenal endurance. | ||
| But strength, I am of the opinion, and this is just from the last few years of me operating this way, that you should do low repetitions and you should do it more often. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| That's what I do for me. | ||
| I get better, I get stronger than before. | ||
| And I took my hormone track. | ||
| I took my cortisol level test and it lowered. | ||
| Just to train like that. | ||
| Lowered your stress. | ||
| Recovery time, lower reps. | ||
| How do you schedule your own personal workouts? | ||
| Do you have someone do it for you or do you decide based on how your body's feeling? | ||
| I do it to myself. | ||
| I have my schedule about how much traveling I need to cover. | ||
| You do a lot of traveling. | ||
| You keep talking about that. | ||
| That's an issue, huh? | ||
| For example, since January till now, I've been in Australia, I've been back to Italy, then I went back to Brazil, Brazil, back to Italy, Italy, Panama, Panama, Mexico, Mexico here, then I go back to Italy, then I go back to Korea. | ||
| Oh, Jesus! | ||
| And that's happening this week, I'm here. | ||
| Next week, I'm maybe in Australia. | ||
| So it's crazy for me. | ||
| That's why I'm really very careful about the way that I eat, the way that I train. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And sleep, too, I bet, right? | ||
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Yeah, right, right. | |
| It fucks with your sleep and all that traveling. | ||
| Yeah, so then, you know, like I was telling Joy, I use a lot of melatonin, of course. | ||
| Melatonin? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I use phosphatidylserine to reduce my cortisol level, you know. | ||
| And I try to plan, okay, I'm going to land in this place. | ||
| The time zone is different. | ||
| I try to adjust my meals on the time zone, you know, try my training so I can set up. | ||
| It's pretty complicated for me to stay in a decent shape. | ||
| Do you bring vitamins with you? | ||
| Yeah, I get vitamin C a lot, vitamin D and E a lot. | ||
| D and E? Yeah. | ||
| And what about as far as your diet? | ||
| What do you concentrate on? | ||
| Do you concentrate on eating a lot of vegetables? | ||
| I actually tried super green. | ||
| You gave me your super greens, very cool. | ||
| Yeah, super greens is great because you can take it with you. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
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It'll help. | |
| It's great stuff, man. | ||
| Oh, it's giant. | ||
| I don't like greens. | ||
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It's great to mix it in water. | |
| I love greens, but in some places you go, it's crazy. | ||
| You ask for veggies. | ||
| The only things they give you, yeah, it's nothing. | ||
| It's a salad or a couple of things. | ||
| That's easy for me to put it on my shake or whatever, water or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, vegetables is so goddamn important, so important for people, and so many people just, they don't have it in their diet. | ||
| They mess up, and your body just does not have those nutrients, and it starts drawing them out of your body. | ||
| It takes it out of your bones, it takes it out of your muscle. | ||
| And also, you're just not recovering correctly. | ||
| You're not developing correctly. | ||
| Where do you get your produce from up here? | ||
| I mean, that's the dumbest question. | ||
| Tomatoes don't taste like tomatoes no more, Joe. | ||
| Well, that's because the tomatoes that you get in the grocery stores are designed to last longer. | ||
| They're not designed to taste good. | ||
| No, but I go to the farmer's markets. | ||
| I do as much as I... I got up yesterday early, went to the farm. | ||
| I try as much as I can. | ||
| I mean, I can't... | ||
| I crave tomatoes. | ||
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Go to... | |
| Get heirloom tomatoes, Joey. | ||
| They look ugly. | ||
| They taste amazing. | ||
| No, I get them. | ||
| And they only last like a few days. | ||
| Like a few days, yeah. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Because they're real tomatoes. | ||
| They're not these fucking franken tomatoes that you get. | ||
| Yeah, I don't go to... | ||
| I don't go to... | ||
| You get tomatoes. | ||
| They're hard and they're pale. | ||
| You cut into them. | ||
| You're like, is this a tomato or is this an apple? | ||
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They're tasteless. | |
| Like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| And, you know, they only do it so that they can keep them on those trucks longer and drive around the country with them and keep them on the shelves in the grocery store longer. | ||
| Are you growing your own produce yet? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we grow our own vegetables. | ||
| Tomatoes? | ||
| What else? | ||
| Yeah, we grow tomatoes. | ||
| We grow kale. | ||
| We grow squash. | ||
| We grow cucumbers. | ||
| We grow a lot of things. | ||
| Yeah, I think if you can, you should do it. | ||
| It's very satisfying to make a salad out of something that you grew yourself. | ||
| And just super healthy. | ||
| You know where it came from? | ||
| You know, we buy real healthy fertilizer, good soil, you know. | ||
| And I think good soil is really important too. | ||
| I have a friend who lived in Brooklyn, and he got his soil tested. | ||
| It turned out that the ground was contaminated with lead from back when they used to have lead gasoline, when they had leaded gasoline. | ||
| Like all that shit goes up in the air, and it all comes down. | ||
| It's in your soil, and it was in his soil. | ||
| And there's different plants that you could plant that will draw it out of the soil. | ||
| Or the best solution, I think, is if you have a yard, just get potted plants. | ||
| Just get those big wooden boxes. | ||
| Grow the plants in there. | ||
| That's the best way because then you can completely control what soil they grow in. | ||
| And then, you know, it's just a very contained environment. | ||
| So that's how we do it. | ||
| We have these big potters and, you know, we grow watermelons and all kinds of different stuff. | ||
| I think I'm going to take a course because that would be my world. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| To become an old Italian man. | ||
| Roll up your pants. | ||
| Get a cigar. | ||
| Get a hose. | ||
| Oh, I love it, Joey. | ||
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I love it. | |
| People come over. | ||
| Right now, everything's so green out here. | ||
| It's so amazing. | ||
| Yeah, it's beautiful because all the rain has been a... | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's been raining a lot here, right? | ||
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Huh? | |
| It's been raining a lot. | ||
| Like crazy. | ||
| Yeah, we had a drought for five years and then this year it's just been flooded. | ||
| They had a giant break of a dam in Sacramento. | ||
| Oh yeah, that's true. | ||
| You see that? | ||
| I was in Have you seen that, Joey? | ||
| I was in Panama when it happened. | ||
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Yeah, it's true. | |
| It's fucking awesome. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| There's this thing called the Glory Hole, the Morning Glory Hole up in Northern California. | ||
| It's this crazy hole that's in this lake. | ||
| And it hadn't operated in 10 years. | ||
| It hadn't been doing it. | ||
| Because it's like a vortex. | ||
| What do they call those when it spins like that? | ||
| What do they call those things? | ||
| Is it a vortex? | ||
| So it sucks this hole somehow or another. | ||
| When the water level gets to a certain point, it develops this hole in this lake, and it wasn't there for 10 years, and now it's finally back again for the first time. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
| Wow, that's crazy, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so for 10 years, the water level wasn't high enough for that actually to be happening, and now it's finally happening again, and people are all excited. | ||
| So it's pretty much over. | ||
| All of the drought issues that we had here in California are pretty much over. | ||
| Tell this fucking guy. | ||
| I don't care what TV they get. | ||
| Just get rid of this guy. | ||
| We've been waiting on this other TV for so long. | ||
| Tell him today. | ||
| Say, just get whatever the fuck you can get by Saturday. | ||
| Because we have a fight companion on Saturday. | ||
| We can't have this happening. | ||
| Do you take protein? | ||
| Protein? | ||
| Honestly, no. | ||
| I very rarely do. | ||
| I take hemp protein if I have to. | ||
| Like if I'm running and I'm low on food, I haven't eaten anything but I know I'm going to work out. | ||
| I like hemp protein because I can take a glass of hemp protein with coconut water and I can work out in 30 minutes. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| Because it digests so easy. | ||
| It just goes right into your system so easy. | ||
| It's a nice light. | ||
| You're only dealing with like 16 grams of protein. | ||
| It's nothing too crazy. | ||
| But most of my protein I get from meat. | ||
| Yeah, real food. | ||
| That's what we were discussing in the car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I'm on the plane and I didn't get the chance to cook my food and take it on the plane, I got some protein. | ||
| But otherwise, I like to get some whole food. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I knew I was traveling and I couldn't get it, I'd bring a lot of bars with me. | ||
| I'd bring these, there's a company called Primal Kitchen. | ||
| This guy, Mark Sisson. | ||
| And he makes these, yeah, he makes these amazing bars because they're very low sugar. | ||
| It's only like five grand of sugar. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's got coconut, he's got cashews and coconuts. | ||
| He's got almonds and dark chocolate. | ||
| There's some back there if you want to try them. | ||
| Oh my God, he's got a coconut? | ||
| They go crazy for coconut. | ||
| Dog, he's got a vanilla coconut meal replacement. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| You know me. | ||
| I could drink this at 7 in the morning, me, smoke, and not eat till 2. I don't eat till after jiu-jitsu. | ||
| So I will drink that protein powder because I mix them up. | ||
| I use the hemp. | ||
| I use that. | ||
| Like if I have a long... | ||
| Like today, I drank the cocoa because I'm not going to be out of here till 2. You see me hungry? | ||
| You see me fidgeting? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's the real fucking deal. | ||
| The key is low sugar. | ||
| That is the key. | ||
| To eliminate as much sugar in your diet. | ||
| And by the way, folks, that includes fruit juices. | ||
| If you're thinking that you're drinking a big glass of orange juice in the morning and it's healthy... | ||
| That's the worst thing in the fucking world. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| We thought that was healthy for so long. | ||
| For so long, we thought, oh, I'm drinking nice, healthy orange juice. | ||
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Look, it's got the pulp. | |
| Even if you squeeze it at home. | ||
| But they got cereal. | ||
| They might be thinking, oh, we got cereal. | ||
| I don't need carbohydrates. | ||
| But they get the juice. | ||
| It's all sugar, man. | ||
| The more sugar you can cut out of your diet, the better. | ||
| And Sunday is my cheat day. | ||
| Yesterday I had pizza. | ||
| I had a Cuban sandwich. | ||
| I had a Cuban sandwich that was fucking delicious. | ||
| What is a Cuban sandwich? | ||
| It was in the movie, right? | ||
| In El Chef? | ||
| El Chef? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| What movie? | ||
| I didn't see Chef, but... | ||
| What is Chef? | ||
| They had a Cuban restaurant. | ||
| What movie is that? | ||
| Was that a movie with Bradley Cooper? | ||
| With who? | ||
| Was that three people saw that movie? | ||
| Jon Favreau in this movie. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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He makes a food truck. | |
| People really like that movie. | ||
| I never saw it. | ||
| A food truck. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| What was the one with Bradley Cooper? | ||
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Something else with him now. | |
| No one saw that movie. | ||
| He didn't even see that movie. | ||
| The people that edited that movie fell asleep. | ||
| Somebody put a unique thing on my page, Joe. | ||
| I gotta show you. | ||
| They put this thing about a restaurant in New York City. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| Hari's been there. | ||
| It's called La Calidad. | ||
| It's the last Cuban-Chinese restaurant Really? | ||
| Cuban Chinese? | ||
| Joe, you gotta put... | ||
| And they have one last Cuban. | ||
| His name is Antonio Wong. | ||
| And the guy... | ||
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What? | |
| Joe, you gotta put the thing on, please. | ||
| So there's a Chinese community in Cuba. | ||
| Huge! | ||
| The biggest Chinatown before Fidel. | ||
| Biggest Chinatown outside of China. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But the people that were born there started talking Chinese and Cuban. | ||
| So when I was growing up, you had like Ampanachina, which is the Chinese bell on 57th and Bergen Line. | ||
| But the real deal one was this last one called La Caridad. | ||
| And somebody put it on my page yesterday, and we were watching. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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Wow. | |
| But they have, so they have... | ||
| Chinese and Cubana. | ||
| Criollo. | ||
| Criollo means what they do. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Fried bananas, pork fried rice. | ||
| This is in New York? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See if you can find the video, Jamie. | ||
| They put it on my Facebook page. | ||
| We need to go. | ||
| Next time we're in New York and we do a gig together. | ||
| Ari goes all the time when he was in New York. | ||
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Really? | |
| They're open until 2. Somebody found Ari, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, Vietnam. | ||
| Yeah, he was in Vietnam. | ||
| They got photos of him. | ||
| Someone met him on a fucking beach somewhere. | ||
| But before that, he was in Thailand. | ||
| That was a month ago. | ||
| He could be somewhere else. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| His phone's still off the hook. | ||
| He was supposed to be back a month ago. | ||
| Then nobody knows where he is. | ||
| He's not coming back till May. | ||
| May? | ||
| May is when the show shoots. | ||
| Is that what he said? | ||
| He's not coming back till May? | ||
| I don't think we'll see him till next month or even hear from him till next month. | ||
| What a weirdo. | ||
| Could you do that? | ||
| Could you vanish for months and just not talk to anybody? | ||
| No, not at this point. | ||
| He's not talking to any of his best friends. | ||
| I mean, we're his best friends. | ||
| He's not talking to us. | ||
| He's not talking to anybody. | ||
| Maybe he's talking to like one dude. | ||
| Maybe he's got a confidant. | ||
| One dude that he calls up, hey man, I'm only calling you. | ||
| You see Gabriel Glacius? | ||
| Him too. | ||
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What? | |
| What's he doing? | ||
| Canceled this tour. | ||
| What? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Canceled this tour. | ||
| But why did he cancel this tour? | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| I looked at a headshot of myself. | ||
| Ten years passed by. | ||
| Done. | ||
| That's what he said? | ||
| So I'm at the Indianapolis airport. | ||
| His manager looked at me and said, talk sense into him, please. | ||
| Well, what did he say? | ||
| What's his thought process? | ||
| Is he just working too much? | ||
| He worked. | ||
| He joined boxing class. | ||
| He joined salsa classes. | ||
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Really? | |
| Just wants to live. | ||
| Just wants to live. | ||
| He bought that new Mustang Joe. | ||
| That's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Which one did he get? | ||
| The only one that they made 77 of them. | ||
| Oh, the Shelby GT350? Is that what it is? | ||
| How many horsepower? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's pretty high. | ||
| It's just too much. | ||
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It's amazing. | |
| Shit that you don't really need. | ||
| They only made 77 of them, so he's going to go and ride his fucking cars. | ||
| He's got a shitload of money, Gabriel. | ||
| And he's got a shitload of cars, so he wants to do something with Jay. | ||
| And they're going to drive cars and wave at people and throw a lot of bills out the window. | ||
| You know, I've been thinking about this myself, man, because my UFC contract is going to be up again. | ||
| I do it one year at a time now. | ||
| I used to sign these long-ass contracts for like five years, but now I'm like, I'm not doing that anymore. | ||
| I'm going year by year, and I have to decide soon because my contract's up again in August. | ||
| I don't know what I'm going to do, but I do too many things. | ||
| I do too much. | ||
| I work too much, you know? | ||
| And the family really wears on you. | ||
| And we were talking about date night, how now on Fridays I got the bill of laden sent at me. | ||
| Once they give you the bill of laden, that means it's over. | ||
| That's the act of, we had the act of 2017 at the Diaz household. | ||
| Friday night is wives, dog. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about your stand-up night. | ||
| I gotta get out of here. | ||
| I got a four-year-old that drives me crazy. | ||
| So Friday night's date night? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Official. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| You and I have been talking about this, too. | ||
| That in town, it's maybe sometimes even best to not go out on the weekends and work. | ||
| Because even though it's good to work, and it's good to get your stand-up in, on the weekends, everybody's there to see the big show, right? | ||
| But for us, especially now, for me, it's only a couple months since my special came out. | ||
| And for you, it's just a month and a half, right? | ||
| When did your special come out? | ||
| Three months ago, December 8th. | ||
| Yeah, so for me, it's three months, too. | ||
| So when that happens, or four months, when that happens, your shit comes out, and then you're in this scramble mode where you're trying to create. | ||
| And what I like, what you're doing is you're going to these hole-in-the-walls, go to these weird places. | ||
| Show up and work your material out in these joints. | ||
| You go to the comedy store on a Friday night, there's 400 fucking people. | ||
| It's packed to the gills, and everybody's doing their best 15 minutes over and over and over again. | ||
| And one of the things that I noticed when I went there recently is a lot of these guys that aren't doing specials. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of young guys coming up in particular that they don't have any specials. | ||
| They're not releasing any material. | ||
| So they're doing the same material every time I see them for fucking years now. | ||
| For two years when I've been coming there, there's certain comedians that have been doing the same act every time I work with them. | ||
| So what they're doing is they're tightening up this hard 15 minutes and they're doing it all the time. | ||
| You know how to do that 15 minutes. | ||
| I don't think that's helping you. | ||
| In a lot of ways, it's not helping me either. | ||
| What really helps is you do long sets on the road. | ||
| If you go somewhere and you're doing an hour, and you're doing two shows on a Friday, two shows on a Saturday, that's what helps. | ||
| That's where it's at. | ||
| I got the podcast because... | ||
| Just the way my office building is, I can't go in there in the daytime and smoke a pound of pot and play loud music. | ||
| I just can't do it, and I don't want to do it, so I prefer to do it at night when I don't have a gun to my head. | ||
| If I come here at 1 o'clock, Joe, and we have to sit here until 4, from 3 to 4, I'm going to be fidgety or out of control because I'm thinking about that fucking traffic. | ||
| I want you to do the podcast. | ||
| I don't want you to think of nothing. | ||
| I don't want you to think of nothing, bro. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you've got a spot, don't do my podcast. | ||
| Because we might go on a tangent that's brilliant, and you've got to leave for a stupid fucking spot. | ||
| No, don't do it. | ||
| I do that Monday, and then I try to do comedy two, three times a week, but now I'm doubling up. | ||
| Do you have a guest this Wednesday? | ||
| For your podcast? | ||
| Yeah, why? | ||
| Because I was supposed to do it. | ||
| I'm supposed to do it one of these times. | ||
| We'll figure it out. | ||
| Tell me when, so I can cancel whatever comedy I got going on. | ||
| What days are you doing it? | ||
| Mondays and Wednesdays. | ||
| Who you got tonight? | ||
| No, I'm not doing it tonight. | ||
| How come? | ||
| Because I did it last night. | ||
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Oh. | |
| I did two yesterday. | ||
| Oh, nice, nice. | ||
| I did the undercover cop finally. | ||
| Oh, how was that? | ||
| Joe, fucking, to be close to a killer for 18 months who sprays cyanide in your face? | ||
| That's what he was doing? | ||
| He was chasing this guy? | ||
| It was the Iceman, right? | ||
| Yeah, he was chasing the Iceman. | ||
| So he had to meet him, and the Iceman, the only reason why the Iceman contacted him was because he heard he could get different guns, and he was ATF. So when the Iceman contacted him, he wanted Sinai. | ||
| So he kept saying, bring me to Sinai, and then he was going to sell him arms. | ||
| So for 18 months, this guy had contact with this guy. | ||
| I had to meet him in a diner. | ||
| He said he would hold his gun pointed right at him. | ||
| When he would meet with him. | ||
| Under the table? | ||
| Under the table. | ||
| But you also had to sit outside. | ||
| He always told him to sit outside because he didn't want to be downwind of the cyanide. | ||
| Just in case, because he would just spray it in your face. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| So he was always worrying that this guy was going to ice him. | ||
| Ice him literally. | ||
| Ice him literally. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then he would kill you. | ||
| You know, they call him the Ice Man, for people who don't know. | ||
| He would kill somebody and then throw him in a fucking freezer in his basement for like seven, eight months. | ||
| So they'd disappear. | ||
| And then he'd put him in his fucking basement and then he would toss the body somewhere. | ||
| So it would confuse the fuck out of people. | ||
| They didn't know when the guy died because he would thaw out. | ||
| And then they'd be like, why does this guy have frostbite on him? | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| This guy's intestines are fresh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like his intestines were still fresh. | ||
| Meanwhile, the guy had disappeared six months ago. | ||
| So they called him the Iceman. | ||
| He kept these fucking people in his basement. | ||
| Do you know how cold-blooded you have to be to... | ||
| You're going to sleep in your basement. | ||
| Did he do it in his basement or did he have a warehouse? | ||
| He had a warehouse in North Bergen, New Jersey, where I'm from, right on Newkirk. | ||
| I got my dick sucked out there one time by Gabby. | ||
| Right out there, I saw Gabby driving on Kelly Boulevard and I just stopped her. | ||
| And she goes, what do you need, a ride? | ||
| I go, no, Gabby, can you suck my dick? | ||
| She goes, get in. | ||
| What a good kid! | ||
| And then he killed... | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Richard Kuklinski, right? | ||
| He had killed... | ||
| I lived on Givenad Terrace and on Charles Court there was a guy named Mr. Softy. | ||
| He had an ice cream truck. | ||
| And that was his partner until he killed him too. | ||
| He killed all his fucking partners. | ||
| He killed a lot of fucking people. | ||
| And he killed a lot of people for the Gambino family, right? | ||
| Wasn't that who he worked for? | ||
| But he was doing shit that just wasn't. | ||
| Like they asked him one time, he bought a bow and arrow. | ||
| He bought a bow and arrow, one of the ones that you have like a gun. | ||
| Oh, crossbow? | ||
| And the guy says, how do you know it's going to work? | ||
| He goes, let's go for a ride. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| And there was a guy at a light with a motorcycle helmet. | ||
| He shot him right in the helmet and just took off. | ||
| Guess it works. | ||
| He was one of those dudes that just... | ||
| Didn't care. | ||
| And that's what this guy was saying yesterday. | ||
| He goes, you really don't know that this... | ||
| He goes, one day my kid, it was Halloween and he had the horns on at the house. | ||
| And I had to tell the kid to take them off because in reality, I was sitting across from this guy every day. | ||
| This guy would talk about murder like the way you talk about lifting weights. | ||
| Like, I shot him in the throat, and he didn't really die, so I look at him, you know, just shit that's not, you know, like just... | ||
| You gave me that book, Murder Machine. | ||
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Right. | |
| You remember that book? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, Roy DeMayo. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Jesus Christ, that's a fucking scary book and it details this guy was a Mob boss was it in the 70s? | ||
| Yeah in the 70s and this It details how he slowly started killing a bunch of people Like slowly but surely and then they would cut him up in their fucking bathtub And then they had this one apartment where they would take these people to that was above this bar that they would go to. | ||
| They'd take these people upstairs and fucking kill them. | ||
| And they killed so many people. | ||
| But you know, they were animals because it wasn't even for business anymore. | ||
| No, no. | ||
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They didn't do it. | |
| It was like, he disrespected me. | ||
| Like, he disrespected me. | ||
| He called my sister fat. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You gotta walk them upstairs. | ||
| They'd shoot them and stuff. | ||
| Then they'd hang them and they'd cook. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they'd wait for the body to drain. | ||
| Yeah, they would cut the neck and hang them so that the blood would all drain out of it. | ||
| And then you'd go in and chop them up and put them around. | ||
| Who does this shit? | ||
| How do you fucking sleep at night? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I could see somebody calls you a motherfucker and you shoot them. | ||
| Shit happens. | ||
| You know, somebody owes you $10,000. | ||
| Somebody hits your sister with a car. | ||
| But they were just doing shit to prove that they were animals. | ||
| That's animal shit. | ||
| Well, I think what happens is you get used to doing it. | ||
| Just like we were talking about fighting, and the more you fight, the more you get comfortable with it. | ||
| I think there's something that happens to people when they kill people. | ||
| They get real comfortable with it. | ||
| And the more comfortable they get with it, the easier it is. | ||
| And then they start getting a rush out of doing it. | ||
| And there's also this power to know that there's this guy walking around, and his wife thinks he's coming home, and you're like, you know what? | ||
| You're not coming home. | ||
| I'm gonna just stop this right now. | ||
| It's almost like they get a thrill out of playing God in a lot of ways. | ||
| Before I spoke to him, he told me to read a different book. | ||
| I had read a different book on the Iceman. | ||
| And he told me to read a different book. | ||
| And again, this was our conversation earlier. | ||
| What book did you read? | ||
| It was a different author. | ||
| This one was by Anthony Bruno called The Iceman. | ||
| The one I had read before was by a different author, something Carlo. | ||
| And they said he had caught the Iceman later when he had become more exaggerated. | ||
| I killed Kennedy. | ||
| Because towards the end, he killed everybody. | ||
| He was there when they killed Costolano. | ||
| He found out that he was getting people's dick hard. | ||
| So this guy wrote the early one. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| You know, his dad just beat the shit out of him. | ||
| Beat the shit out of him. | ||
| The Jersey City. | ||
| Yeah, just made him a monster. | ||
| You know, there's no difference between Jersey City and Newark. | ||
| It's the same animals. | ||
| He said that there was a kid that would always call him Polack. | ||
| He had to wear the same clothes to school every day. | ||
| He had no money, you know. | ||
| And the kid, he described his first murder. | ||
| You know, how he got a stick and waited for the kid to come home. | ||
| He was 14. You know, when you kill somebody at 14, I thought he killed a guy at a bar. | ||
| I thought he killed a guy and strangled him. | ||
| Remember, he lit the one guy on fire. | ||
| Once, but the first guy he got was his young guy, and he wouldn't give his name. | ||
| He beat him up with the 2x4, and he went upstairs, and the next morning the cops were outside. | ||
| He thought he just threw a beating on him. | ||
| He didn't know he killed him. | ||
| So he was scared. | ||
| He kept puking. | ||
| He kept going to school and thinking that people would know. | ||
| And after that, that's it. | ||
| Once you get away with it, it's like a taste. | ||
| It's a taste in your mouth. | ||
| And then he had an argument with a guy over a pool. | ||
| And he beat him in the head with the pool cue 30 fucking times. | ||
| And then he got into another beef where he shot the guy outside, but he lit the car on fire with the body in it. | ||
| You know, the reason why there's so many unexplained deaths was because his first couple of years, he was going out at night. | ||
| You know, there was a time when I had four drinks and I'd go rob something. | ||
| Can you believe that? | ||
| Just the drinks would get you? | ||
| You'd feel loose? | ||
| I was great until I had four drinks and then I'd be walking home and I'd see a store and I'd kick the door open for some fucking reason. | ||
| He would go out and kill people at night. | ||
| Go somewhere and let's say you just insulted him for the weirdest thing. | ||
| Like, hey, get out of the way. | ||
| He would wait for you outside and shoot you. | ||
| So that's how he developed his things, you know? | ||
| Is that episode available now? | ||
| Which one? | ||
| The one with this cop? | ||
| No, I didn't put it up yet. | ||
| When is that one going up? | ||
| Probably this week. | ||
| I'm going to do a wraparound around it because it was a phone call. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I just taped the phone call. | ||
| It was Sunday. | ||
| And I'm going to do a wraparound, compare it to the book. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| I really... | ||
| Had a great guy. | ||
| I mean, I got to talk to him every day. | ||
| He's like 70. But he's Essex County. | ||
| Went to the University of Nebraska. | ||
| Was a Golden Globes champion. | ||
| Went back, became a state cop. | ||
| Then he became ATF. Just a fucking great story, man. | ||
| There was two guys that were talking about your podcast. | ||
| It was fucking hilarious. | ||
| They were talking about Lee. | ||
| And they were like, what Joey has done to that poor guy? | ||
| He's like, every time he sees him, he's forcing him to eat mushrooms, he's got to take acid, he's giving him pot, he's giving him edibles, he's lying to him about the dosages. | ||
| Lee loves it. | ||
| Let me tell you, he loves it. | ||
| He does, he's great. | ||
| We just did the liquid acid with the ice cube, with the sugar cube. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| About two weeks ago, we did it two nights in a row. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| On the show you did it? | ||
| Yeah, and then he called me the next day. | ||
| He's like, that was fun! | ||
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No, He goes, I went to CBS at four in the morning. | |
| He wasn't like that before he met you, though. | ||
| No, but he's having a great time. | ||
| You turned that kid into a freak. | ||
| He's not a freak, man. | ||
| I turned him into a functioning savage. | ||
| But I love him with all my heart because he makes me laugh so much, Joe. | ||
| You know, I'm 54. It's 28. He's half my age. | ||
| You know, I see life from his perspective, you know, and I'm like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Well, you guys get along together great. | ||
| It's like a great dynamic, the two of you together. | ||
| It works really well. | ||
| Oh, I love it. | ||
| I don't see him too much during the week. | ||
| So I keep the relationship fresh. | ||
| We talk all the time. | ||
| I torment them all the time. | ||
| The other day I called him. | ||
| I go, what the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| He goes, what are you talking about? | ||
| I just got a letter from the state. | ||
| Why is your fucking phone tapped? | ||
| I tormented him for 20 minutes about his phone. | ||
| Why would my phone be tapped? | ||
| I go, do you work for the CIA? Is that what the fuck it is? | ||
| They made you come over and take my acid so you can report back to them? | ||
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No! | |
| What the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| I don't work for the CIA! I said, don't worry about it. | ||
| It must have been a mistake. | ||
| When the guy got me the liquid acid, I called him and I said, listen, I got liquid acid. | ||
| And you can hear him getting anxiety on the phone. | ||
| He goes, oh no. | ||
| You can hear a little bit. | ||
| And then he goes, how are we going to do it? | ||
| I said, so we're going to get sugar cubes and put the acid on it. | ||
| But I called him back like a day later. | ||
| I didn't have no acid and I had no sugar cubes. | ||
| I just made it up. | ||
| I go, listen, I just put the acid in the sugar cubes, and I put them in the Tupperware, and I put a lid on it, and I left, and when I came back, the lid had blown up. | ||
| So whatever's in that acid is going to be really fucking strong. | ||
| I go, I put aluminum foil over it with holes so it could breathe, so the acid won't fucking go into... | ||
| Oh my God, I had him going for three weeks. | ||
| I go to Cleveland, guess what? | ||
| Some guy comes up to me, gives me a tube of acid. | ||
| I says, this is the pharmaceutical grade shit. | ||
| This will kill Gaddafi the whole fucking thing. | ||
| I go home, we put two drops on each ice cube, on each sugar cube. | ||
| Oh my fucking God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But see, again, that's why I quit everything, because my tolerance is too high. | ||
| Back in the day, I could do two drops. | ||
| I'd be high for 12 hours seeing things, unicorns. | ||
| I've seen something for like two hours. | ||
| But who knows how strong it really was, too. | ||
| And you're getting it from Cleveland. | ||
| You've got to get it from, like, Northern California. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| But then I lost a tent sheet from a guy in England. | ||
| A guy in England gave me some stuff, Pink Floyd acid. | ||
| It's the same one that Sid Barrett took when he quit Pink Floyd. | ||
| So I took that, I saved that. | ||
| So now I'm going to get the liquid acid, I'm going to put it on the blotter from Pink Floyd and we're going to go deep. | ||
| I'm just saving that one for a good guest. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Let's wrap this up. | ||
| So, Alberto, how can people get a hold of you? | ||
| It's Alberto Galazzi on Twitter and on Instagram. | ||
| Instagram and Facebook. | ||
| Two L's, right? | ||
| Yeah, Galazzi two L's. | ||
| Two L's. | ||
| And Joey, obviously, Mad Flavor on Twitter and Mad Flavor's world is like someone's running that for you, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Lee does all that stuff. | ||
| Lee does that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I thought it was a one-by-one podcast guy who does that. | ||
| He does the Instagram. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| The Instagram. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Lee does all the Twitter stuff. | ||
| I'm in Baltimore next week with my main man, John Rolito. | ||
| Oh, John Rolito. | ||
| Where you at? | ||
| Where you going? | ||
| I'm at Magooby's. | ||
| Just three nights. | ||
| Me and Tom Segura. | ||
| Tom Segura does the following week. | ||
| Oh, beautiful. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
| So, yeah, we're going to have a good time there. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| And the podcast is The Church of What's Happening Now. | ||
| It's available on iTunes. | ||
| It's a fucking great podcast. | ||
| And he's doing seminars everywhere. | ||
| And he's doing On It in Austin. | ||
| Oh, beautiful. | ||
| When are you doing the On It seminar in Austin? | ||
| Austin will be in the middle of March. | ||
| Middle of March. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is this month. | ||
| So what's your schedule? | ||
| Where can somebody go find it? | ||
| What's the website? | ||
| They can go to Tag Fit Academy or Tag Fit Europe. | ||
| So they can always find me. | ||
| Okay, so they just Google your name. | ||
| Yeah, Google my name. | ||
| He's got tons of stuff on YouTube, man. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Appreciate it, man. | ||
| Really fun talking to you, brother. | ||
| Joey! | ||
| See you guys tomorrow. | ||
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Bye. |
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