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Feb. 2, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:42:45
Joe Rogan Experience #911 - Alex Jones & Eddie Bravo
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alex jones
01:45:25
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eddie bravo
29:23
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joe rogan
01:14:28
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john f kennedy
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trace gallagher
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alex jones
Go like an hour extra and get Q in there to talk about stuff.
He doesn't even want to go on air.
joe rogan
One.
Zero.
The stars have aligned.
The prophecy has come true.
Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo together on episode 9-1-1.
This is episode 9-1-1 of the podcast.
alex jones
You're kidding.
joe rogan
No, I'm not.
I had to fucking work hard all week to grind out podcasts to make sure that I hit episode 9-11.
When we booked it, I knew how...
I go, okay, there's a certain number of podcasts I have to do to get this to 9-11.
So Jamie and I worked it out, and we did it!
alex jones
Well, let me just say, I'm very envious, because I'm...
In my studio under bright lights, and I've talked about going back to when I was just on radio, that darkness we can really think.
This is a wonderful studio.
joe rogan
I'm going to do a studio, my next one, with a fire pit.
I'm going to have conversations outside.
alex jones
I've talked about that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
alex jones
Because it's like primitive.
It triggers that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it's comforting.
It feels good.
And it's kind of cool lighting.
So that's in the next studio we build.
I'm going to build a fire pit.
I'm going to get some logs, some actual real fire.
You can only do that like certain times of the year in L.A. though.
Like, when they have fire season, they wouldn't let you do that shit.
alex jones
Well, you should have, like, a little balcony or, like, a little outside courtyard with your fire pit, and you kind of...
joe rogan
Yeah, but I want a real fire pit, you know?
Like, I feel like if you're going to have a fire pit...
alex jones
You need a roaring bonfire.
joe rogan
You should have actual logs.
alex jones
You should move to Kauai part of the year, and I will, too.
And then we'll just have a big roaring fire in the jungle and create a whole renaissance.
Just what we were talking about before the show.
And Donald Trump will land via helicopter secretly.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Secretly.
alex jones
And take damn tea with us.
You think so?
I'm just joking.
joe rogan
That could fix a lot.
We could fix a lot with that.
Alex Jones, you're like a decorated correspondent for the news now.
What the fuck's going on?
alex jones
What do you mean?
joe rogan
I mean, you're like an official White House guy now, right?
Oh, no.
You're actually like a news guy.
Like 100% legit.
alex jones
Well, sure, I'm setting up a news bureau and stuff, but that's just part of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but like you're in deep.
With the Trump administration.
alex jones
Well, I've had Trump on, and I've talked to him some.
Really?
joe rogan
He's your buddy.
alex jones
Really, it's just that we're covering the resurgence of America, what made the country great, lower taxes, empowering the people, bringing people together.
The opposite of what MSM... What's happening is mainstream media is literally almost dead.
It's collapsing.
I mean, look at you.
I mean, I remember having dinner with you like six, seven years ago, and you're like, yeah, we got a million downloads a week.
Now it's 90 million or whatever it is a month and 20 million on YouTube.
And for Infowars, it's similar numbers.
A good week's 40 million.
We've had as many as 85 million people listen on radio and tune into videos in one week.
That was election week, but our normal's 40-something million.
It's just crazy.
How can they compete with that?
They're still delusional.
The average CNN show has like a million viewers.
Fox thinks it's the big swinging dick.
It's got three, four million.
It's all, I'm sorry, people transmitting and broadcasting to geriatric homes.
You know where you see Fox News and CNN? In nursing homes.
You know what you see with kids 10 years old, 10 years old up to college and beyond?
It's a Joe Rogan experience.
And it's InfoWars, and it's all these other folks.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a weird time, isn't it?
It seems like those shows where you have to tune in from 8 to 9, and you have to sit through the commercials, that's kind of all gone away because of DVRs, because now people just have to wait a few minutes so you can DVR through all the commercials, or you record things after the fact.
alex jones
I remember you like 15 years ago saying, the internet killed television.
They haven't announced it yet, but you watch it's going to kill it, because how can they compete with what you can do on the internet?
You know, a guy getting screwed by a horse, or whatever it is.
I mean, how the hell can you compete with all this craziness?
joe rogan
Did you see the guy in China that got jacked by the Tiger today?
alex jones
I did see that yesterday, actually.
joe rogan
Was it yesterday?
alex jones
It's like, oh, let me not pay admission and just go through here.
joe rogan
Well, they even shot at the Tiger.
So they scattered the Tigers.
They shot at the Tigers to get him off this dude.
And then even after the bullets were shot off, this Tiger was like, nah, fuck that.
I'm going back in.
And he ran in after they shot at him and finally killed the dude.
And it was all...
Everybody's got their phone up, and they're all filming it.
eddie bravo
It was in the zoo?
unidentified
Well, imagine.
joe rogan
Those tigers.
alex jones
Those tigers.
eddie bravo
A guy fell in?
joe rogan
No, he jumped in.
He jumped in.
He wanted to get killed.
alex jones
Oh, really?
At first, they thought it was a mission.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, that was another guy who went in with a lion and tried to convert him to Christianity.
Did you ever see that guy?
alex jones
God, it's crazy.
joe rogan
He went in with a Bible, and he's trying to convert the lions, and the lion just fucked him up.
alex jones
I'll tell you what's crazy about that, though, is...
Imagine those lines.
eddie bravo
Maybe he wasn't trying to convert them.
Maybe he was just like praying that the motherfucking line wouldn't need them.
joe rogan
No, he went in on his own.
He was talking to them in the name of Jesus.
And he was like talking to them.
You've never seen it.
Jamie, pull it up.
alex jones
He was definitely probably schizophrenic.
joe rogan
See, here he is.
He gets in there and he's talking to the lines.
This motherfucker just jumped the fence.
And decided he was going to convert the lions to Christianity.
And lions are apparently way cooler than tigers.
alex jones
And they're like, what is going on here?
joe rogan
Tigers see people and they just fuck them up immediately.
The lion barely fucked that guy up.
He just kind of slapped at them.
alex jones
Well, that's because they're more tribal or more like dogs, pack animal.
They're the only cat that's in a pack or a group, so they're not as...
unidentified
Agro.
alex jones
Exactly.
I mean, a tiger sees you.
You're in my territory.
I'm going to kill you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, a tiger's a totally different beast.
alex jones
Like, tigers sometimes will, like, adopt another little animal, like a wild dog or something, like be licking on it, being nice to it, and, like, won't the other ones eat it?
Yeah, they do weird stuff.
eddie bravo
Remember, the only way you could see this before is with those animal attack videos.
Remember those?
They always started the same way.
They start off with a dog attack, a dog attacking a mailman, an iguana's out, attacked your leg, and then it slowly ends up with drunk Mexicans at a rodeo on a wild bull with a rope.
And those bulls are smart as hell and they drag them, these drunk Mexicans, and they drag their heads along the rails and just crush these dudes in between the railing like some serious...
joe rogan
Brain trauma.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Vicious brain trauma.
eddie bravo
They need one with just 100% of that because that was the most exciting shit.
joe rogan
Alex Jones, how the fuck is TV going to compete with that?
See, that's what we're saying.
alex jones
Yeah, they can't compete.
joe rogan
I was kind of wrong, though, because Netflix is TV and it's also the internet.
It's like both things.
alex jones
Sure, and it's forcing the power of Hollywood to basically disperse, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I mean, look, it's better if the ability to get your work out gets to more people.
It's better.
It's better if anybody can do it.
alex jones
And it lets more competition in.
joe rogan
Yeah, like these new YouTube stars.
All they have to do is stand in front of a camera.
There's zero production value.
If you've got a camera, you've got an internet connection, you can have a YouTube show, people find you interesting.
All of a sudden, you've got millions and millions of subscribers.
alex jones
Andy was bringing up this fact for your audience up front.
A lot of MSM lies and says I'm this big right-wing guy, but you guys know that I was really against George W. Bush and all the lords.
joe rogan
Yeah, you were arrested early on in the Bush administration.
I remember when we first became friends in 1999, we were running around the White House or the state capitol lawn with George Bush Jr. and senior masks on, and you were always against the Bush administration.
alex jones
That's why I supported Trump is the entire power structure, the media.
I mean, the Vatican, the Communist Chinese, the Saudi Arabians all put money in and said, stop him, stop him, and then lied and said the Russians were giving him money with no proof.
And so the issue is he's simply trying to actually be president and not have special interest in there running him, and that's why the whole power structure is against Trump.
So, and he was asking before we went live, well, how is it you're this outside guy against the establishment, but now you're for it?
No, Trump's trying to create a beachhead, just to explain it, to try to take the country back and actually devolve power back to the states and back to the people.
Doesn't mean he's perfect, but notice the stock market went up $1 trillion, $200 billion just in the last month or so because a lot of institutional investors and others understand with Trump he's trying to create real prosperity, not a bunch of social engineering.
And I'm not here to pitch Trump to people.
The issue is that there were major intelligence agencies and patriots in the government who were sick of what was happening and were sick of Hillary and Obama backing jihadist groups and other things.
And so they're rolling those groups up right now.
They really are strong.
And so there's been a counter coup through the electoral process in our country.
And that's what WikiLeaks was.
That wasn't the Russians.
That was U.S. intelligence agencies.
I said two months ago.
That Anthony Weiner in New York, Uma Abedin's husband, the former congressman that was working for Hillary, I said that he's under investigation for child porn.
And then now it came out yesterday that they're looking at indicting him for child porn.
Well, I had that from the NYPD. That came out yesterday?
Yes.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
What did he do?
He had something on his computer?
alex jones
Well, now they won't tell us, but I was told that tied into that whole Pizzagate thing.
Which, again, the media misrepresented what we said and did.
It came out in all those WikiLeaks, all these weird codes.
joe rogan
There was a bunch of weird codes about pizza and about a piece of pizza.
alex jones
President Obama wants $65,000 in hot dogs delivered.
And they're like, are these really good hot dogs?
The hot dogs weren't as good last time.
Well, these are succulent hot dogs.
That's not about kids.
eddie bravo
How retarded do you have to be?
joe rogan
Well, what is that about?
alex jones
It's male prostitutes.
I mean, that's what the code means.
joe rogan
Really?
alex jones
Yeah, okay, yes.
joe rogan
How do they get male prostitutes to keep their fucking mouth shut?
alex jones
Well, because, you know, bad things happen if you don't.
joe rogan
Federal child porn charges possible for Anthony Weiner.
alex jones
But I'm on record months ago.
I'm on record months ago saying that that's the case because I had those sources.
And so the government, good elements of the government know what's really going on.
So the media then misrepresented and said, oh, look at 4chan.
They're talking about a thing called Pizzagate and some pizza place in D.C. And the media looks at it and says, oh, Alex Jones is claiming all this bad stuff is happening at this pizza place.
I'm like, what is this?
So they divert some probably innocent pizza place to distract off of all the emails that the New York police have and the FBI have that's just this monstrous reported pedophile network.
So to discredit that, they go create a fake story hoping we jump on it to then divert over to that story.
And then once we're on that, it diverts everybody off from Anthony Weiner.
Which leads reportedly to a larger network.
joe rogan
So they're playing that far ahead?
So they're literally attacking a pizza place with fake stories just so that people can focus on that and take attention off Anthony Weiner?
alex jones
Yes, because it was connected to that story.
It was connected to stuff in D.C. and New York and all this other crazy stuff.
joe rogan
Because we're making a lot of long sentences here and a lot of long statements.
alex jones
So here's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
For a lot of people that go, what the fuck is Pizzagate?
There was this Ben Swan guy who did this recent piece about it, and a lot of people got very angry.
Did you see the piece?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Did you see the piece that he did?
It seemed to me to be pretty measured.
And he was making some connections between that symbol for child pedophilia.
Yes.
Or just pedophilia, right?
The logo.
The logo for the pizza place.
Did he make the Hastert connection with Podesta?
alex jones
Well, I mean, Hastert...
joe rogan
Confirmed child molester.
alex jones
And best buddies with Podesta.
joe rogan
And former Speaker of the House.
alex jones
And then you expand on that.
joe rogan
Right, but let's just do a step at a time, because this is really kind of important stuff.
So that's all 100% true, right?
So it's true that Hastert's in jail.
It's true that Hastert is a known pedophile that a judge called a serial pedophile, right?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That's true.
It's 100%.
It's true that Podesta was friends with Hastert.
That's 100%.
alex jones
Yes.
joe rogan
And then all this other stuff now becomes odd.
Doesn't it become odd?
But if you say it's odd, if you look at it, this Ben Swan guy, what I thought was, he was just kind of expressing what is weird about this case.
And when he did it, he got so much shit over it.
I was kind of shocked.
I was kind of shocked.
People were calling him a moron.
alex jones
Well, listen, I got the same thing.
But that's what I'm saying.
They build a straw man.
So imagine, thousands of emails come out with them talking about, we'll have the kids ready, 6, 7, and 8, in the hot tub at this time.
joe rogan
I didn't see anything like that.
alex jones
Oh, it gets really crazy.
joe rogan
Where did it say that?
alex jones
It was in the emails.
There's freaking thousands of them.
joe rogan
But it said, get the kids in the hot tub?
alex jones
Yes.
joe rogan
I never saw that.
Can you see if you can find that, Jimmy?
That seems like...
The whole thing is so bizarre.
alex jones
It's like, we're going to have the kids delivered for entertainment.
They'll be in the hot tub.
Now, these are great kids, but kids can be kids.
joe rogan
Well, you know what's fucked up about it is how few people really mention that connection to Hastert.
I would have thought that would have been a huge, huge, constant...
alex jones
Well, Joe, I love the fact that, and I'm not kissing your ass, it's true, that you're very astute.
I just bring up this whole big topic of how they twist things.
You go right to the key points that...
Okay.
joe rogan
But that's a big one.
alex jones
We have Barney Frank, who got caught running an underage male prostitute ring in the 90s out of his three-story townhouse.
joe rogan
See, I thought it was just a male prostitute thing.
alex jones
I didn't know they were underage.
joe rogan
Somewhere underage.
Because I was with him all up to...
Age 19 plus or whatever.
alex jones
Sure, but then what happened is he goes on C-SPAN on the House floor and says, if you continue to investigate this, I'm going to expose half of you that are involved in this in this room.
And the investigation got shut down.
So the reason this is important is for shadow government, you need something so bad that everybody who's involved in it ever comes out will be destroyed.
So that binds them all to the secrecy.
joe rogan
So that's where child pornography comes in, and that's where pedophilia comes in?
alex jones
That's where you get so many of the elite being into it.
But just as you said, you have the Republican establishment trying to get Hasterd out of nowhere as a wrestling coach to run for office.
Then, reportedly, he's the procurer, just like Penn State.
unidentified
Sandusky.
alex jones
Sandusky and the underage kids that they were, quote, mentoring, getting farmed out to supposedly big donors.
joe rogan
What's crazy is this is, we're talking about two very specific cases, two very different cases, but what's crazy is they're both real.
It's both real.
100% Sandusky, who was a very respected man in the community, did a lot of charity work with young, disenfranchised children, and was molesting them at the same time.
And was super respected in the community.
And he was the right-hand man to Joe Paterno.
So that whole thing just fell apart.
alex jones
And the headquarters from our research of the pedophilia is like Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
Right.
eddie bravo
What about the Franklin cover-up?
alex jones
And that's up in...
joe rogan
Hold on, what is this, Jamie?
It says, we plan to heat the pool, so possibly Bonnie will be Uber serviced to transport Ruby Emerson and Maeve Lozado, 11-9 and almost 7, so you'll have some further entertainment, and they will be in that pool for sure.
What in the fuck?
alex jones
That's only one of them.
joe rogan
And that's a real confirmed email, right?
unidentified
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
But listen, here's the problem.
So, I have NYPD telling me...
Before the election, like a month before, yes, we're investigating, Wiener, child porn photos.
joe rogan
Go back to that, please.
alex jones
Not just of kids out on the Internet, but kids he's communicating with, and their parents are basically letting them communicate with him.
So I'm told this by NYPD detectives.
I mean, the Secret Service gave me information about how Hillary was collapsing all the time.
Remember, we reported that, and then it got caught on tape.
So all this stuff goes on and on and on.
And so I'm not saying half the people or 90% of them, you know, are guilty or innocent in all this.
All I know is we start covering it, start asking questions.
They then divert off into somebody on a 4chan forum pointing out there was some email about a meeting at some pizza place in D.C. where top Democrats go.
They then turn the whole thing into, I'm blaming some pizza place.
I'm sending shooters in to shoot people at a pizza place.
Make up all this crazy-ass crap when I never even said any of that.
And then, you go back to me two months ago, three months ago, I said, the police have told me they're investigating Wiener for pedophilia and child porn when it was not in the news.
Now notice, it's in the news.
joe rogan
Okay, okay.
alex jones
I got this from police.
joe rogan
Slow down before we get away from this, because I've got to go back to that.
There was a quote up there that Jamie pulled up that I wanted to read.
The one on the lower bottom about this.
Now, these are the emails that you were talking about, and these are 100% confirmed emails.
Go back to that one that was on the bottom.
alex jones
I'm not saying any of these people are guilty.
joe rogan
I'm saying this is the controversy.
Hold on a second here.
So six grown-ups with two toddlers and two infants spread throughout the house, and sure enough, one of the toddlers was rubbing my nose at 545. What the fuck does that mean?
alex jones
The FBI has a whole blueprint.
joe rogan
Parents got back to retrieve the children.
They threw in the towel.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't know what the fuck those emails mean.
Everybody wants to immediately shoo this away.
It's disgusting.
alex jones
But hold on a second.
joe rogan
Impossible.
We're talking about two very specific proven cases.
Hastert, proven.
Sandusky proven.
Real, huge, elite, powerful people that were also active pedophiles, right?
alex jones
Yes.
joe rogan
So that's a fact.
alex jones
Who know each other and are buddies.
And then you've got Podesta's brother who's big in Washington.
In an article in 2007 in the Washington Post, I'm going to try to give you the exact headline, which was something like radical art or something, and it's like naked photos of the neighborhood kids in their house, and then they're showing it.
Throwing it in your face.
It's just crazy, but that's not even stuff I get into.
joe rogan
But there is something to that, because some of his artwork was super disturbing that he had in his house.
Like little kids with their pink butts.
They were in their underwear, and it looked like they had been paddled.
And they were all standing there with their butts facing.
It's very bizarre.
alex jones
Joe knows more about this than I do.
See, and that's all I do is cover these real things.
So let me give you the new news.
joe rogan
But that is real.
alex jones
The government got pissed off about this.
The pedophile rings have gotten so big that the intelligence agencies began to leak all this info.
And they knew Hillary was planning to steal the election.
She did steal five states, according to the experts in proof we have.
joe rogan
How did she do that?
What do you mean?
alex jones
They tried to break into six states.
joe rogan
Let's not go on these long, long rants where there's a bunch of different states.
How did she steal five states?
You can't kind of gloss over that.
alex jones
Okay, no, she tried to...
joe rogan
How did she do that?
alex jones
She tried to steal six states.
She did steal five states.
Well, Bev Harris, who's a big liberal, big Democrat, had the HBO documentary, Hacking Democracy.
She's the leading expert.
She was actually, a month before the election, through whistleblowers, got the actual code that had been loaded on machines all across the country.
You should have her in studio to steal the elections.
joe rogan
I saw Hacking Democracy, and I saw that they did engineer those voting machines so that you could have a third-party input and change it.
And they did it live on the show.
alex jones
And that was a decade ago with Bush.
This is new.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
She's the top election fraud expert.
So she comes on my show, the story's on Infowars.com, and she says, we've got evidence, and then I had the hacking experts on, and I had the industry whistleblowers on, and I had the county officials on.
At every level, we have the fraud proven that Democrat-connected groups were already loading code onto machines all over the country.
But it's different companies, but about, I think it was 18% of the machines in the country, to be able to remotely break in and flip votes.
So, because they were aware of that, a bunch of states were waiting and watching, and Homeland Security broke in live into six states and kept trying to flip the results, and they even have screenshots and videos of them in the computers in there clicking and doing it all.
There's major investigations going on.
You hear the news going, Trump's crazy.
He claims illegals voted to make it about illegals.
That was one statement in a larger election fraud deal of actual computers.
So Trump knows about all this.
So she comes on and says, they're planning this fraud.
Then she comes on after the election and she says, yes, it's clear.
Here's where precincts closed.
Here's where all this happened, where 100% went for Hillary.
Or right after it closed, all the votes that then came in were 100% for Hillary.
They didn't even care.
But the landslide was so big for Trump, they couldn't steal it.
She successfully stole five states.
She tried to break into six others.
Or her controllers did, and got blocked.
The tsunami for Trump was so huge, with the real polling we can break down later, that they still weren't able to steal it, and now patriots inside U.S. intelligence agencies are preparing to roll up the pedophile networks nationwide.
That's why you've seen arrests in Pennsylvania, arrests in L.A. I haven't seen these arrests.
joe rogan
Who's getting arrested?
alex jones
It's just now breaking, and it's big institutionalization.
joe rogan
474 arrests, 28 sexually exploited children rescued during statewide human traffic operation.
eddie bravo
They're getting down now.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
eddie bravo
There's a takeover, right?
joe rogan
Holy shit.
But look at the numbers there.
474 people arrested.
alex jones
But they're only rolling up the Renfields that get the people for the psychic vampires.
joe rogan
But how insane is it that this is still happening, right?
So all the people that thought that this idea that, you know, whether they tried to make it ridiculous by calling it Pizzagate or connecting it to a pizza place, everybody that thought that was ridiculous, it is not ridiculous that there could potentially be some sort of a pedophile ring.
alex jones
And see how they trick us, though.
joe rogan
It's not ridiculous.
alex jones
See how they trick us.
They go pick some pizza place, probably have their people go on and make comments on some message board, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, the same day come out and say, All the emails are discredited from New York and California and Hawaii.
Because there's this innocent pizza place over here that some of the Democrats go to, and they're all saying that's where the pedophiles are at.
So then the Internet all goes and looks at that and starts trying to prove, to disprove MSM, that, oh, there must be something going on there.
So then that turns that all into the big quagmire as a smokescreen from all the admitted stuff that's happening.
Because, again, I was told by my NYPD high-level sources that they've got all this stuff on Wiener's computer that just got scooped up.
During the whole hacking story and the whole story about Hillary and the unsecure servers.
And that that was being blocked by Obama.
And that as soon as Trump got in, they would go back after Weiner.
Then I was told by a former section chief from the CIA that indeed this was an operation they were running against him to start leaking all this.
And so what you're beginning to see is the beginning of all the pedophilia coming out as they roll up the procurers that grab your kids out of backyards or that go out as social workers and get the kids or whatever.
They're rolling all those up right now to get to Renfields.
Renfield brings the people to Dracula.
That's the allegory.
I'm not saying a real vampire.
And so they're going to now roll it up into the higher level groups.
joe rogan
Well, here's what's going on with a lot of this stuff.
You have to be real careful in how you describe these things and how you talk about these things because people are looking for any little tiny thing to discredit it.
And one of the reasons why they're looking at it, they're doing it for personal reasons because it seems...
No one wants to be ridiculous.
No one wants to be a fool.
And no one wants to be someone who's talking about conspiracies that aren't real.
So people are very hesitant to talk about something that's unproven, but horrific.
alex jones
Just like 15 years ago, it was a conspiracy theory.
That the Catholic Church had any pedophilia.
Now we know 30% were doing it.
We now know the old pope had to step down, was blackmailed with info about other high-level priests by the new guy that came in.
I mean, this is heavy stuff.
joe rogan
The Catholic Church stuff is absolutely horrible and proven over and over again.
And again, when I was a kid, it was rumor.
It was just things that were whispered.
You would hear about it.
eddie bravo
And now, I always wondered how they're getting away with it.
It's so out in the open.
How come there isn't more...
alex jones
They're psychic vampires.
We're stealing the energy from the kids.
joe rogan
Well, the most common thing they do is they find very troubled kids that don't talk about it.
People with foster care, kids with no parents, kids who come from really troubled backgrounds, kids who are abused.
alex jones
Just like Sandusky ran an abused children's shelter and group and then would take the kids out, sometimes overnight at rich people's houses to make them feel better.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's scary.
alex jones
And no one wants to believe that the assistant coach and that all these powerful people, but when he finally got caught, he was raping eight-year-olds in the showers at noon on a Saturday at the field house.
joe rogan
Yeah, and someone who worked there found it, watched it happen.
It walked in on them, literally.
And that's what it all fell apart.
alex jones
That's what always happens.
These guys get more and more arrogant.
And so all I'm telling you is I'm not saying anybody's guilty in these thousands of emails.
You go read them and it's like, the last walnut sauce you brought wasn't very good.
Oh, well, these are good walnuts.
You're going to, oh, I love walnuts.
And then you go read and the FBI break down what that's code for.
joe rogan
What's code for walnut?
alex jones
It means people with brown skin.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
Ted Gunderson was talking about this for years.
FBI chief former...
alex jones
He discovered a bunch of it in Los Angeles.
He was the head of the LA sector.
joe rogan
So people are going to hear this and they go, oh, they're a bunch of Pizzagate truthers.
These guys are a bunch of Pizzagate truthers.
There's an inclination to automatically dismiss things like this.
alex jones
Let me be clear.
Let me be clear.
I'm on the air covering 50 topics a day.
These emails are coming out.
I get...
I'm contacted one of my sources by people in the NYPD. I get sent documents, photos of their licensed law enforcement.
I talk to these people and they say, yeah, no, it's horrible.
It's a bunch of pedophilia.
You know, it's a bunch of child porn.
It's all going to come out.
It's tied to all these different groups.
And I'm just like, okay.
So I go on air and I say, listen, I got this from real NYPD and other sources.
And then Eric Prince of Blackwater.
He still runs one of the biggest groups in the world.
joe rogan
Doesn't he run some sort of military operation in like Bahrain or something now?
alex jones
Or Saudi Arabia or something?
unidentified
Absolutely.
alex jones
The point is that he comes out and says...
Is it the UAE? You can ask Q about it.
He knows all about it.
But the point is that all this happens and he comes out in the news...
Okay, through the White House organ, Breitbart, that's basically from Trump's mouth, and says, yes, we've confirmed high-level pedophilia rings in the Clinton operation.
We're going to bring them down.
And so that's what all this is.
joe rogan
Why did Breitbart tweet about that in 2011?
Do you remember that tweet?
alex jones
Breitbart knew about it.
joe rogan
It came out.
alex jones
Breitbart said, I'm going to bring out the biggest thing that's going to bring down the Democrats, and they poisoned him right here in California.
joe rogan
You think they poisoned him?
alex jones
No, absolutely.
They killed him.
joe rogan
What happened?
I didn't even know how he died.
I thought he died of a heart attack.
Are you laughing, fake laughing at me?
alex jones
Pull up the...
No, I'm laughing at just...
No, I know you're quoting the media.
joe rogan
I'm not laughing at you.
alex jones
Don't choke me out, Joe.
joe rogan
I won't, buddy.
You know I love you.
Pull up the Breitbart email, or the Breitbart tweet, because it's a crazy tweet.
alex jones
Turns out Joe knows all about this.
joe rogan
Well, the tweet is pretty insane.
When you read it, you're like, wait, what the fuck is going on?
There's an instantaneous reaction that people have that are intelligent.
alex jones
Yeah, because they're not pedophiles.
Because the average person isn't a pedophile.
joe rogan
Right, you're right, you're right.
alex jones
So you tell me people are doing this to kids, you don't believe it?
joe rogan
Right, you're like, get the fuck out of here, that's nonsense.
But when you tell people about the stuff that's been proven, the ones that have been proven, they don't account, they don't attach those.
alex jones
I was on air.
Saying, I'm told this by NYPD in like three different shows, and that it's going to come out that Weiner's sending child porn.
And it's in the news today.
joe rogan
Well, what they're saying, what they're accusing Weiner of, apparently, is sending sexually explicit texts to an underage girl.
That's what's against the law.
So they're calling it child porn, but essentially he was sending pornographic texts to a 15-year-old.
alex jones
Yeah, well, I was told it's a lot more than that.
Maybe it is.
What they're doing is minimizing it, because the higher-ups are being told, you don't let this out.
Let me tell you.
Wiener supposedly had tens of thousands of emails.
joe rogan
Wiener should be a fucking comedian.
For sure.
He's a freak.
He's got real problems.
He's a good communicator.
I bet he's hilarious.
Come on.
Don't you think?
alex jones
All I know is...
I'm not saying even Wiener is a pedophile.
All I know is...
All I know is...
Listen.
We all know about Jerry Epstein.
I don't know about your EFT. That was the Lolita Express.
Just Google that.
joe rogan
What is that?
alex jones
Bill Clinton was on 20 flights.
First it was seven.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
alex jones
Now I know what you're talking about.
To this pedophile island that has a temple in it.
And then he was also flying to this Middle Eastern country with this sheik that's admitted pedophile with multi-million dollar checks and Bill Clinton on the plane.
And Bill Clinton's a known sexual predator.
Okay, so all this stuff's going on.
So they start bringing up lawsuits against Donald Trump with Jane Doe's, claiming he'd been with Epstein, even though there's no proof in the law, because they make you log even on private jets.
None of it was ever true.
Here it is.
joe rogan
How prog progressive guru John Podesta is in household name as world-class underage sex slave op cover-upper defending unspeakable dregs escapes me.
Early on, did John Podesta imagine his baby MMFA, I don't know what that is, would be covering...
Huh.
I don't know what that means.
What is MMFA, young Jamie?
Media Matters.
Huh.
eddie bravo
Isn't that Soros?
alex jones
Yeah, that's Soros.
But also, guess who owns the pizza place?
joe rogan
Who?
alex jones
Where all this went on.
It's Media Matters head guy, David Brock's boyfriend.
And that is where they have major Democratic Party fundraisers.
And then they had...
They had rock bands there that gave live spoken word dissertations of the love of children.
joe rogan
What?
alex jones
Yeah, I'm talking about guys like in goth drag, talking about how much they love children.
joe rogan
Have you seen this?
alex jones
Yeah, I don't even really want to repeat what they really...
You can pull it up if you want.
joe rogan
There's a video of them saying that in the pizza place?
alex jones
Yeah, this is a common ping pong.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
Why is...
I mean, it's really...
It's a very, very bizarre...
Subject.
But why is this so easy?
What is this right here?
You bringing it up, Jamie?
Okay, give me some volume.
unidentified
And you all are very grateful that you are below a Subway sandwich shop.
And Jerry is known to hang out down here.
He likes the world sounds.
joe rogan
What are we listening to?
unidentified
I think that was his manager.
We all have preferences.
Anyway.
joe rogan
Hmm.
alex jones
That was weird.
joe rogan
That's super weird.
eddie bravo
That's like ping pong?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Anybody listening, let's describe what that person looked like.
They were wearing a wig, a blonde wig, and it was a guy.
A transvestite.
Or a woman who just smoked every cigarette.
It's one of the two.
But the fact that that was going on at that place seems really odd.
But that sounds like someone ad-libbing.
We all have preference.
It's like trying to be funny.
It's almost like a comedian.
alex jones
No, but it's the guys in the crowd saying it.
It's more than it's all the artwork that was there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
A lot of creepy artwork connected to that guy.
A lot of creepy artwork.
I mean, that's a fact.
There's a lot of facts.
So it's one of those things.
alex jones
But I'm not saying they've done anything.
And you're not saying that.
joe rogan
And I'm not either.
That's what's really important.
alex jones
I never even really covered this stuff.
And then they had me on the news and also Swan going, They said these people were killing kids in a basement.
They say, okay, Megyn Kelly went on and took a clip where I was talking about Hillary funding jihadis and Obama back in the Arab Spring that killed tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people, thousands of children, and how Al-Qaeda was putting kids, which is ISIS, into sex slavery.
They edited that out and then cut it together on Fox News with me saying, Hillary Clinton rapes and kills children in a basement at Ping Pong Pizza.
They literally now edit audio.
joe rogan
They changed your audio?
alex jones
I was able to go find the day with video with what I really said and throw it back in their face.
joe rogan
Wow, that's really blatant.
Can we watch this?
Where is this that they did that?
Do you guys have the comparison of the two-up?
alex jones
Yeah, it's something like, Megyn Kelly caught a giant lie against Alex Jones.
joe rogan
Try to find that.
We should play that.
alex jones
But listen, I didn't mean to get in here.
joe rogan
First of all, Megyn Kelly's so pretty, she can say whatever the fuck she wants.
alex jones
I think she looks like an old tranny.
joe rogan
I love her.
Do you?
Think she looks like an old tranny?
You're hilarious.
alex jones
I love you.
joe rogan
No, I don't like old trannies, but I think she's hot.
You don't think Megyn Kelly's hot?
alex jones
No, I just want to insult her because she's a loveless.
joe rogan
Oh, she's globalist.
alex jones
Obviously she's pretty.
No, Joe, she's real ugly.
joe rogan
Do you think that she's moved over to NBC? Do you think she's going to change her tune now and go for the liberals?
alex jones
NBC wants to be the, quote, new Fox News.
So they'll be the new kind of Glenn Beck.
I'm a conservative, but I hate conservatives and libertarians.
And I'm going to speak for everyone, and I can decode it all.
So she's going to go over there and be the conservative light and try to get them some ratings.
joe rogan
So it seems like NBC realizes that's where the money is?
Is that what you're saying?
Want to see how fake news is made from Megyn Kelly on Fox News.
Did you find it, Jeremy?
Okay, let's play it here.
Here we go.
Give us some volume.
unidentified
Pizzagate.
joe rogan
Conspiracy gunman.
unidentified
As many controversies do these days, it began with a tweet.
trace gallagher
On October 30th, days after the FBI announced they'd be reopening an investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails, someone on Twitter, whose name remains unverified but has several thousand followers, posted that new emails found on Anthony Weiner's computer confirmed that Hillary posted that new emails found on Anthony Weiner's computer confirmed that Hillary Clinton was involved in a
The Twitter post included information from a Facebook user who stated, quote, my NYPD source said it's much more vile and serious than classified material on Weiner's device.
We're talking an international child enslavement and sex ring.
alex jones
Hit pause for a minute.
joe rogan
The next day...
alex jones
Back it up in 10 seconds.
Now, this is probably them trying to debunk us, but what they do is they misrepresent what we're saying.
So again, whoever these rogue people were, or I don't know who they are, saying, oh look, NYPD says it's Wiener and all this.
See how they were saying none of that's happening?
Now it's actually starting to come out.
I don't know how far or how deep it goes, but this is when Kelly...
joe rogan
Well, let's let it play out and then respond to it afterwards, because otherwise we're going to lose our train of thought.
alex jones
I'm just not sure what clip this is.
Sure, sure.
joe rogan
Go ahead.
trace gallagher
Information from a Facebook user who stated, quote, my NYPD source said it's much more vile and serious than classified material on Weiner's device.
unidentified
We're talking an international child enslavement and sex ring.
trace gallagher
The next day, the bogus claim was picked up by a website called yournewswire.com, message boards like 4chan and Reddit, right-wing blogs, and several pro-Trump websites.
Infowars' Alex Jones, a far-right web host, posted a YouTube video seen almost 500,000 times.
unidentified
When I think about all the children Hillary Clinton has personally murdered and chopped up...
trace gallagher
The rumor spread, inspiring some newfound internet sleuths to start digging around in John Podesta's hacked emails, searching for proof and location of the so-called sex ring.
unidentified
What they found were numerous references to pizza.
joe rogan
Now here's what Alex Jones actually said.
unidentified
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to stuff.
alex jones
A message to Hillary.
When I think about all the children Hillary Clinton has personally murdered and chopped up and raped, I have zero fear standing up against her.
Yeah, you heard me right.
Hillary Clinton has personally murdered children.
unidentified
I just can't hold back the truth anymore.
alex jones
Hillary Clinton is one of the most vicious serial killers the planet's ever seen.
unidentified
Now there's a twist to that.
alex jones
Am I talking about the devil worship story with her chief of staff or campaign chairman?
Looking at the menu of blood and semen and body parts at the Aleister Crowley event?
The private event?
Oh no, I'm not talking about that.
I mean 200,000 plus dead Christians with her operation with Syria.
And our operation in Libya and not letting the Christians get out and directing Al-Qaeda and ISIS who target and murder children and put them through sex slavery and throw Catholic priests off cliffs and kill people en masse and murder gays and everything else you can imagine because they don't like peaceful people.
And they con everybody.
They're for open society and they love everybody.
Anything they do is for degradation.
unidentified
And someone could have been killed inside of your restaurant for no good reason other than people like Alex Jones fanned a conspiracy theory that even the D.C. police say has no basis in fact.
Yes, it's a pack of lies.
And it's dangerous.
alex jones
That's the top Soros operator's boyfriend.
unidentified
...to drive across four state lines with an assault rifle and enter a family-friendly...
Restaurant at 3 o'clock in the afternoon on a Sunday.
I know Reddit has banned this topic on its website.
I mean, slowly but surely those who help ban it are trying to dial it back out of the safety, you know, out of concerns for the safety of those who have been endangered by it.
Really, this could happen to anyone.
alex jones
It's not just us.
unidentified
It's any single person.
I know you said to our producers, it's all so surreal until the gun comes in.
Wow.
alex jones
And then some guy, so they went, they got it.
They got the full clip.
They cut the front off, knowing I was actually saying, I don't know about the Satanism before the term Pizzagate was out there.
But I do know she's funded the radicals.
I came, I saw, they die.
Who do rape and kill and cut up kids.
So she personally is...
joe rogan
You were making a very provocative statement, and you made a very provocative statement by saying something kind of crazy at first, and then backing it up.
And so what they decided to do was just edit a chunk of that.
And so they didn't really have to edit it and chop it up, but they did take it as bizarre as it seems to take it out of context.
alex jones
They misrepresented and said that I was talking about Comet Ping Pong.
joe rogan
Right, but you weren't.
alex jones
And I was talking about...
The spirit-cooking Aleister Crowley stuff where the lady has written, it's real for her.
And they go, and they take little kids to these parties, and they have vats of blood.
That's one thing if you were an adult and wanted to do that, you know, issue some art project.
This is real.
And so I was talking about the menu where they're in the email saying, you know, we're going to have plenty of blood, plenty of semen for you, and other delicious things on the menu.
And he's like, what are the juicies on the menu?
And they go, well, we're going to have cheese pizza.
We're going to have the nut sauce.
And we're going to have the pasta.
And we're going to have, you know, succulent hot sauce.
We love hot dogs.
We know you love succulent hot dogs.
What the fuck?
And they go, oh God, I want to go back to that place in Hawaii that had the best hot dogs.
You know, it's like, yes, we've got hot dogs.
And Obama wants $65,000.
Will the hot dogs deliver to the party?
Will the hot dogs be there?
And then it's in Stratford and CIA emails that got leaked by WikiLeaks that now people have cross-referenced where the CIA is like watching going, aha, look at Obama in Chicago, another hot dog party.
joe rogan
Well, there's definitely something.
alex jones
And I don't care if Obama is at a party with 15 dudes.
That's his issue.
The point is, though, they can blackmail him with this.
And the stuff with Obama...
joe rogan
Do you think that's real?
alex jones
We never got pedophile codes with Obama.
Yeah, no, it's men.
I mean, he's had his...
joe rogan
Are you trying to say that Barack Obama is a homosexual?
alex jones
Saying he's bisexual.
joe rogan
How dare you?
alex jones
I really don't even care.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen him with a man?
How do you know this is true?
alex jones
Well, I've seen him with men walking down the street plenty.
joe rogan
Maybe he just likes to bring dudes in to have conversations with him.
It's probably hard to talk to people when you're the head of the free world.
alex jones
Maybe he had a party with $65,000 worth of hot dogs.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe he loves hot dogs.
He's like, fuck it.
Fuck this diet.
I'm not the president anymore.
I'm chilling now.
alex jones
I want $65,000.
joe rogan
He's balling.
alex jones
That's more than $65,000 hot dogs.
A gourmet hot dog is worth a dollar apiece.
That's a good question.
Let's say it's super...
$5 a piece for each hot dog.
joe rogan
President needs a hot dog helping hands.
What does that mean?
eddie bravo
What if it turns out he was like the 10-time hot dog eating champion?
He's like one of those dudes.
alex jones
That's probably it!
eddie bravo
What if that's it?
alex jones
Okay, let's say a hot dog costs $5.
joe rogan
It seems like he actually just really likes hot dogs here.
Alex Jones.
Like, there's a whole article on it as well for hot dogs.
alex jones
$65,000 for the hot dogs.
$5 a piece.
$5 per hot dog.
joe rogan
Right, but listen.
You know, you've got to get those deliveries.
Someone's got to make them.
You've got to grind it up.
Put it in the casing.
The whole deal.
Maybe he gets, like, gourmet hot dogs.
alex jones
Somebody's got to put those kids in the hot dog.
joe rogan
He might have been putting together some giant party.
Some I'm out of this job party.
I don't know.
But what I'm saying is...
alex jones
Hot dog is a code for male prostitutes.
joe rogan
Okay, maybe it is.
But what I'm saying is, anybody who's skeptical, anybody who's looking...
You guys are so fucking crazy.
You're making such gigantic leaps of faith.
No leaps.
Just look at all the weird code in those emails.
There was definitely some code in those emails.
alex jones
Let me tell you what happened to me, Joe.
After this one...
In fact, my crew actually got...
I'm going to be honest with you.
Let me tell everybody the truth here.
We're about five days into this, and the news hadn't even picked it up, and all my crew is doing is all day reading thousands of emails.
I mean, there's thousands that are just related to food and hot dog and kids and hot tubs and kid deliveries and, oh, the spirit cooking and, oh, Aleister Crowley and, oh, there'll be semen and blood.
I told my crew, I said, it's probably true.
No one's going to believe it.
Stop obsessing on it and stop reading these emails because I want to focus on the election and everything else that's happening.
So then sites start accusing me of...
I'm covering up the Podesta stuff before it's called Pizzagate, and then I get blamed for being behind Pizzagate, and I'm not even bitching.
I'm explaining what it's like to really be trying to get at the truth, and then people take the fact that it's complex.
She'd be better at this than me, Joe, because you know how to put stuff out clear and parse it.
I just know all this crap.
joe rogan
Well, you get crazy and you start ranting.
alex jones
People won't listen to me, because I've got too much data!
Can you imagine what this is like?
I mean, it's just, I'm sick of it.
I don't know everything that's going on, but I know this.
I have good CIA people and FBI and Secret Service, okay, telling me yes.
Yes, Alex, it's worse than you know.
Keep getting them.
It's going to come out.
And it's starting to come out and saying, watch, when we start arresting the pedophile networks, we're going to roll up the Democrats and the Republicans that are involved.
That's why Trump said in his speeches at the inaugural, this is not about parties.
We're taking these people on.
We're bringing God back in.
Even somebody that wasn't very religious like Trump has gotten religion learning about this.
Because let me tell you something, Trump's not a devil worshiper, and he loves God, and he's been briefed on all this, and he's going to roll their ass up.
So the pedophiles better get ready.
joe rogan
I want you to clear something up right now.
Look at that camera and tell everybody you're not Bill Hicks.
alex jones
That's so stupid.
Tell them you're not.
joe rogan
I'm not either.
Tell them.
These fucking people think there's a goddamn conspiracy and Bill Hicks pretended to die.
alex jones
Here's what happens.
They think it's a flat earth, too.
I take real stuff.
Notice Joe's done his research, not kissing his ass, so he knows all these little points I'm making better than I even did.
I'm like remembering stuff when he brings it up because I try to suppress half this crap.
I can't handle it anymore, man.
I'm 43. And I'm sitting here looking at all this and these people come up to me on the street and they go, Hey, Joe!
Hey, Joe, I said it like five times.
And then I, like, oh, I knew you were, you know, were, I mean, not Joe.
joe rogan
Alex Jones.
alex jones
Whatever.
joe rogan
Whatever your fucking name is.
Alex Jones.
alex jones
All right, the program is wearing out.
joe rogan
So they yell at.
alex jones
No, they say Bill.
Bill Hicks.
Yeah, yeah, no, seriously.
joe rogan
Oh, they say Bill.
alex jones
Here's the deal.
I'll be on the street, or I'll be at a restaurant, and they come over and they go, they say, hey, Bill, hey, Bill, hey, Bill.
I made a release of Joe Rogan.
That's the conspiracy.
And I turn around, they go, oh, I know it's you.
All because I did a few.
Pieces in one little video with a guy that lived in Austin that you knew.
That's how I met you.
joe rogan
But you don't look like Bill Hicks.
That's what's ridiculous about it.
Like, what did you get?
Like, massive plastic surgery?
Changed the way your voice sounds?
Like, your voice is so different than his.
alex jones
But that's what I'm saying is that no one ever wants to look at real conspiracies because they're complex and hard to understand.
They want to just go with, the Earth is flat.
You know, there's aliens living underneath the Capitol.
joe rogan
Dinosaurs aren't real.
alex jones
Or, well, no, I mean, listen, the point is, I'm not going to bash Eddie.
It's good to have a free open mind, but he doesn't promulgate stuff.
He's only researching what's been said.
So I want to just get this out of the way.
I am Bill Hicks.
You are.
How would Bill Hicks be?
Like 60?
joe rogan
I think he died at 32 in 1994. So do the math.
alex jones
I know one thing.
It's hot in here.
joe rogan
Is it really?
I'm not hot.
Eddie, are you hot?
eddie bravo
Nope.
alex jones
I always keep my studio really cold.
joe rogan
Oh, do you?
Well, you get crazy.
You're a goddamn human inferno.
alex jones
I'm melting.
joe rogan
You know, there's a lot of people that don't know.
Like, how you got started.
But one of the things I thought was really bizarre in that thing was that lady was calling you a right-wing host, a far right-wing host.
You've never been a right-wing guy.
And it's a big misconception.
Like, you were always totally anti-Bush.
You got arrested speaking at...
alex jones
Twice, actually.
joe rogan
...before Bush was even elected.
You were trying to stop him from being elected.
Back when Clinton was in office.
alex jones
And then when he stole the election from Gore, who I didn't even really like, I still came out and exposed it, and it's now been certified in Congress, and they've documented it.
I just go with what the facts are.
joe rogan
And one of the things that really opened my eyes, this is a really important video that you did, 9-11 Road to Tyranny, where you talked about the World Trade Organization protests, and how they had sent in these...
People in government uniforms, with government-issued boots, and these anarchists that were dressed in black, and that this is an actual tactic that they'll use to break up peaceful protests.
Well, they'll send in soldiers or policemen or whoever the hell they're hiring, no one knows, and they send these people and they smash everything up, they turn into a violent protest, they light things on fire, and then they all hold up in a building.
And they negotiated their release, and none of them were ever arrested.
And when you showed this, clip by clip, from these various news organizations, and you focused on the kind of clothing they're wearing and the difference in their behavior versus the behavior of all the peaceful protests, and then showed the result of it, which had these people that were walking to work with a WTO sticker that had a line through it, and police stopped them and said, you can't have that sticker on that book bag.
alex jones
It was an admitted beta test.
I'm not anti-cops themselves.
The media always spends it.
You expose pedophilia, they blame some innocent pizza place.
You expose the government trying to make cops do bad things, now you hate average cops.
joe rogan
It might not have even been cops.
I mean, who knows who was doing that?
alex jones
Well, they admitted it was.
It was Delta Force.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
alex jones
Delta Force, and I'm not blasting Delta Force.
They were given the order by Clinton.
To go out and to recruit, and they recruited just about 400 leftist foundation-funded groups, funded by big private foundations.
They trained them for about a month before in Oregon.
They flew them there, put them in a government housing facility.
This was on the newsletter.
I just covered local news stories.
joe rogan
But they did retreat to a building and negotiated their surrender, and they were released, right?
alex jones
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
And this is after all this property damage, all this craziness?
alex jones
They went out to start the attack, so they had it on video.
So they could then attack the 100,000 peaceful protesters.
joe rogan
So this was something that...
We like to think, just like you don't like to think that pedophiles are real, you don't like to think that...
Anyone in the government would ever organize some kind of an attack or some sort of a fake event where a bunch of people that you hire to start smashing things to make a peaceful protest look bad.
We don't want to think that that's possible, but it is possible.
It turns out that this is actually a documented tactic.
alex jones
Yes, it was the WTO. In fact, Esquire, about two years ago, was doing a profile on me, and the guy...
His dad had been a former CIA section chief and had been involved in a bunch of stuff himself.
And I told him, I said, yeah, Delta Force ran those riots.
And he goes, you're a liar.
And I said, no, I'm not.
He went and Googled it and couldn't believe he got the Seattle Post intelligence and stuff.
And then even went and talked to journalists that knew because he'd been there covering it as a journalist and he didn't even know.
So he says in the Esquire article, OK, Alex Jones.
Got me there because even though I'd grown up in the CIA and stuff, I didn't know that was happening.
But let's be clear.
It's criminal elements using compartmentalization that do this.
They always claim I hate the government and I want to have a war and all this other stuff.
No.
I have to give credit to the good elements of the CIA and the good elements of the NSA. I mean, I'm good friends.
joe rogan
That's a very important point.
It's a very important point.
I've had this point with a friend of mine when we were talking about...
I've had Mike Baker on the podcast before.
And through the few conversations that I've had with Mike Baker, who's formerly the CIA... You start getting an understanding of how it works.
Like these drug dealings that always wind up like jets crashing with all the coke on board.
They're cowboys.
You got like a few dudes.
alex jones
Guys running sideshows.
joe rogan
A few dudes who realize they can make a fuckload of money if they sell.
And there might be a lot of people involved.
But it's not the whole CIA. It's not like they have government memos on it.
alex jones
Well, what they'll do is they'll have a covert option they're running.
The president says do this.
Like Ronald Reagan didn't know about the cocaine dealing.
I've talked to folks that were involved, actually flew the planes.
He says, I want communists knocked out.
Congress doesn't give them the funding.
They go, what you do in the government is you go, the president said do this.
We're men of action.
We're going to do it.
So then there's cocaine already being sold.
The Contras are using it to get all their funding.
Well, screw that.
We'll just jack it.
Bring it in using private contractors.
joe rogan
Right.
But that wasn't the first time they did it.
alex jones
That wasn't the first time they did it.
joe rogan
But yeah, it was a common tactic.
They knew that there was money that was being made from selling illegal drugs.
Why would they let that money be made all around them?
They're not going to.
alex jones
The argument is you don't want to let the communists do all the cocaine and heroin dealing because then they have more money than you.
joe rogan
Well, what the fuck is going on in Afghanistan?
It's just as crazy.
Tell people how much heroin production went up since our occupation.
alex jones
Sure, anybody can pull this up.
Again, that's what's frustrating is a lot of the fake liberals, because I see myself as a real liberal, but a lot of the fake liberals just go, oh, that's a lie, this is a lie.
No, you can search engine.
Opium production in Afghanistan pre-2001, and then look at the latest years that's come out, like 2014-15.
It went from 3% of world supply to 7% to 30%, and after 10 years of occupation, it went to 93% of global supply.
joe rogan
So look at the hectares.
alex jones
I just went from memory.
Was I right?
joe rogan
Well, it's a pretty substantial increase between 2001, which is at an all-time low on this chart from 1994 to 2016. So 2001 is an all-time low.
And then the next year, it fucking skyrockets.
alex jones
Yeah, but Google and it keeps going up.
Just type in...
Afghanistan, 90-plus percent world opium production.
joe rogan
It's very, very high.
alex jones
It's gone to 93%.
Now, listen, it was only...
joe rogan
And is it used also for, like, opiate pills, or is it just for...
alex jones
It's used for everything.
joe rogan
So it's not like OxyContin and things along those lines as well?
alex jones
Well, it goes beyond that.
They ordered the troops to...
The Taliban that works with them is allowed to grow it, and then they're allowed to sell it to whoever wants to buy it.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
There's been documented, confirmed instances of troops that are being forced to guard poppy fields.
alex jones
Sure.
Well, let me break it down for you.
Right?
joe rogan
That's on Fox News with Geraldo Rivera.
alex jones
Remember that?
That came out a year after I broke it.
And again, let me tell you how they work.
It comes out that the troops are being ordered.
joe rogan
You're right.
There it goes.
90% of the world's supply of opium, according to the United Nations.
alex jones
And it hit 93 last year.
How many years old is this?
This is like three years old?
Yeah, it's two years old.
See, it's gone up to 93 right now.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
But see, I didn't lie.
I said 93, and it's 93. That's what it is, yeah.
Yeah, but that's what's so frustrating, is you know all this, and then...
joe rogan
And then people still call you crazy.
eddie bravo
Now what, Alex, why do...
Explain the fake news psyop.
Why do...
A lot of people out there think Infowars is total fake news.
Why do they think that?
alex jones
That is a major deep state government program funded by Soros mainly, and they found the most effective way is anti-Israel bashing.
And so, this came out in the WikiLeaks last year, the U.S. Intelligence leaked, not the Russians, that he's in there saying, we're going to overthrow Israel, we've got to deal with Saudi Arabia, and we've got to, like, up the ante with anti-Israel rhetoric.
I'm somebody that was neutral in Israel, never been there, have nothing to do with it.
Israel has liberals, conservatives.
I'm not anti-Israel.
It's a tiny little place.
I know it does some things that are bad compared to what we've done.
It's nothing.
So I just don't have some giant hard-on for Israel, you know, wanting to hurt them.
And I'm not against the Palestinians or anybody else.
Everybody knows that.
So when they kill Israelis for no reason, I say it's wrong.
When they white phosphorus bomb Palestinians, I say it's wrong.
So I'm sitting there covering all that, and...
Then they just put out that I'm this Israeli agent all day long, or I'm this CIA agent.
joe rogan
Let's not get into these crazy rants about crazy accusations that people have against you.
eddie bravo
Explain the fake news.
Why do they think Infowars is fake news?
I don't know either.
There's a lot of people out there, smart people, really intelligent.
They think the real news is CNN. Okay, well, let me explain.
alex jones
You've got attacks from below and above.
You've got major funding.
By Soros and others, who's a real-life Nazi collaborator, like true Dr. Evil.
The latest James Bond was based on his real company.
It's even named after his company.
The bad guy in the movie is actually Soros.
He tried to crash the pound, bring down England.
He's really bad news.
So MI6 hates him.
But long story short about George Soros, he's funding this attack on me and any independent media.
How do you attack independent media when the public's awake to deep state and government and stuff?
You say Alex Jones is the government.
And then they always ignore real facts I talk about, where I admit some of my family and stuff that's worked for the government, and they said the government was corrupt and out of control.
That isn't even a real debate.
But above that, what was your other question?
joe rogan
He had a question.
eddie bravo
His question was about fake news.
Explain the silence.
joe rogan
Well, Andy, let me just explain.
It's pretty easy.
They're in direct competition with him.
If it's Fox News, if it's CNN, if it's anybody that's distributing news, you're in direct competition with someone who has an independent news organization.
They operate it themselves, and they do it online.
alex jones
Joe just said it perfectly.
That's it.
joe rogan
Alex is in a very unusual position, because he's a magnet.
People are drawn to him like a lightning rod.
He says a lot of crazy shit.
He goes on rants.
He's very animated.
Fun to watch.
And a lot of this shit he says is correct.
And we're getting into this right now.
Like this thing about the WTO, which was, like I said, was one of the first ones that really opened up my...
That was a long time ago, too.
That was like, you put that video out in 2002 or something?
Like, when was that?
2003?
alex jones
It was like 2001. Yeah, it was right after 9-11.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Right after September 11th.
alex jones
Sure, I think I put it on the web right after that.
Exactly.
I put it out on, like, DVD or something right before that.
But you just hit it, Joe.
So let me try to actually think and codify this then.
Because my problem is, I don't script what I say, and then it's kind of all over the map, which is a good thing and also a bad thing.
You just hit the nail on the head.
You ask your question, why do they call me fake news?
We just saw Megyn Kelly.
Two weeks before the election, say, in a whole hour-long show special against fake news, we've played a few minutes of it, Alex Jones is the king of fake news.
He just said Hillary is chopping up children inside a basement at a pizza place.
Now, granted, I was saying it in satire about her in the Middle East, so it begged for them to take it out of context, but they clearly did that to deceive their viewers.
She's branding herself, I'm real, you can trust me, look at this poor victim, Alex Jones almost got him killed, when none of it was true.
When none of it was based in reality, and what I was getting was from the NYPD, okay, and the FBI, who are good people, at least those agents.
So there's an example of them branding.
Take CNN. They'll take something real I've said, or they've taken videos where I'm acting stupid.
You know, with like 5X or 6X underwear that they're giving the illegals or whatever, and they'll show me with underwear on my head and say, look, this guy's crazy.
And I get it.
I cover serious topics so they can take it out of context.
But when I'm being serious, which is 90% of the time, I tell people.
But when Joe comes in and we've got, you know, Joey Diaz talking about, you know, kidnapping people, I start, you know, laughing or whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had fun.
Look, you're a normal person, and that's what people find hard to believe.
When I tell people I'm friends with Alex Jones.
They go, get the fuck out of here.
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
We have a good time together.
alex jones
You're a very nice show.
You're a great guy.
I just wish we weren't all so busy and hang out more like in the old days.
joe rogan
I know.
Well, we can do it.
I'm going to come back to Austin.
I'm trying to get to Austin probably this spring.
Trying to figure out when and where I'm going to get.
But I love Austin.
Where you live is a fucking beautiful place.
alex jones
Well, I know these topics can be, you know, quite frankly exhausting.
They are for me.
unidentified
They are.
alex jones
But I'd like to, some today, really get into the big picture and what I believe is really going on, because I figured out the basis of what's happening.
And I'm going to let you, I mean, if you want to hear some far out stuff today, I think because what you experienced, I mean, I'll go through it.
joe rogan
Okay.
eddie bravo
Let's go.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
Let me take a piss then.
joe rogan
Go ahead.
Go take a piss.
alex jones
Joe's always so slick and calm.
So are you, Eddie.
Me, I get in here and I just kind of flail around.
joe rogan
We're going to bring you down.
We're going to bring you down to Earth every now and then.
You're going to launch into orbit.
We're going to grab you by your heels.
Bring you back.
We're going to be fine.
We'll get through this.
Go take a piss and then tell us some crazy shit.
alex jones
Where's the bathroom at?
joe rogan
Right through that door to the right.
Powerful Alex Jones.
So far, Eddie Bravo, everything you wanted and more?
eddie bravo
Oh, absolutely.
I'm just sitting here letting the people, letting your fans know that have never listened to him.
I listen to Alex Jones every goddamn day.
unidentified
You should take a day off every now and then, otherwise you'd be like, fuck.
eddie bravo
Doom and gloom.
joe rogan
But he's a good guy, you know?
He's always been a good guy.
eddie bravo
People that don't listen to him, they believe.
joe rogan
What the mainstream media has said yes, but it's also he makes it easy for them by saying crazy shit like Hillary Clinton chops up babies and all that stuff And I know he's doing it for dramatic effect It's one of the reasons why a show is so popular because he does a lot of things like that It makes it easy for people to dismiss him and then you get into this thing.
Well, okay Let's before you dismiss them.
Let's look at what he said What has he said that's true?
And look at what he said.
Everything he said today, so far, we've been able to corroborate.
eddie bravo
So far, everything that he said, it's just like his radio show.
He doesn't have any teleprompters.
This dude can talk for hours.
Hours straight.
joe rogan
Forever.
That's a thing, though, when you wind up doing a lot of podcasts, especially doing these radio shows like Alex does by himself, where he just rants and rants and rants for long periods of time, they develop a certain muscle.
There's a lot of guys who do their own podcasts.
Bill Burr is a perfect example.
He does his own podcast by himself all the time.
And he's got this ability to just rant from one subject to the next subject and keep going.
And when you have him on a podcast, you've just kind of got to get out of his way.
So with Alex, he just kind of...
I've got to feed him some subjects, get out of his way.
But every now and then, he does so many subjects in a row, I've got to bring him back.
I've got to go.
Okay, let's get to this one.
How did she steal estates?
You just can't gloss over that.
Let's get to this.
Okay, let's get to this one.
eddie bravo
He broke it down pretty good.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did a great job.
I think this is going to help people have...
Seeing Alex like this is going to help people have...
A chance to look at this whole picture of, just forget about where your loyalties lie, whether you enjoy CNN or Fox News or whatever it is.
Just sit outside of it right now and look at what it really is.
Because what it really is is, why does anyone want to give you the news?
Are they giving you the news because they love you?
Are they giving you the news because it's a program and they're trying to make money?
And do they have access to certain people because they're willing to play certain games?
Most likely, when you're looking at something that's on a major league television show, whether it's Fox News or NBC or CBS or whatever the fuck it is, you've had to go through some serious channels to get there.
If you're a guy with a suit and a tie, good evening America, and you're doing that guy on any of those major networks, you've had to go through some fucking serious hoops and ladders and checks and balances.
Represent something in order to be the person who reads the news, but what is that news for?
Is it a fucking show or is it really the news?
Are they really trying to help you?
What are they trying to do?
Why are they doing the news?
Are they doing it because they love you and care for you and they want you to be informed?
Or are they doing it because they're clearly biased and they've got an agenda?
Well, if you watch Fox News and then CNN, just go back and forth whenever there's something going on.
I did it after the election.
I was like, Fox News, CNN. Fox News, CNN. Who the fuck is telling the truth?
Someone's got to be lying.
One of you fucks is lying.
One of you fucks is lying.
Because there's one story over here and there's a totally different story over here.
All you need to know, just looking at that, just forget about what you are, whether you're a progressive liberal, whether you're a conservative Republican, just look at that and understand that you're getting all of your information.
From these sources that have a vested interest in relaying their particular version of the truth.
That's not good for anybody.
eddie bravo
It represents their party.
Like Fox is totally Republican no matter what.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
Come on.
Get one for Eddie Bravo, too.
Let's get crazy.
Bring out the hatchets.
eddie bravo
I hope that people that listen to your show, the people that have never given...
alex jones
I was a little nervous.
I want to get going for a while.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Bring out the whiskey.
eddie bravo
All I want...
For me, I don't want to be this conspiracy guy making money and doing shows.
I walked away from my podcast.
brendan schaub
I was talking about conspiracy.
eddie bravo
I really don't want to be that conspiracy guy, but something inside me is...
brendan schaub
Wants to wake people up.
eddie bravo
That's all I'm trying to do.
That's all I'm trying to do.
I'm trying to help.
I'm not making money off any conspiracy theories or anything.
I tell myself every time I walk in here, don't say shit about conspiracy theories.
joe rogan
This whiskey's going to bring it out of him, bro.
eddie bravo
But you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Black helicopter.
alex jones
Hey, Q in there is a big fan of you.
eddie bravo
Oh, cool.
alex jones
He said he wants to roll with you later.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
I just had back surgery.
alex jones
No, he said so you can kick his ass.
joe rogan
No, Eddie just had a disc replaced.
alex jones
Oh, really?
unidentified
Well, fuck that.
alex jones
Is he CIA? It's finally time.
eddie bravo
You know, actually, Q... I think you might be with the CIA. Every now and then, don't you want to be on that side and just have full access to the CIA? Don't hold that whiskey hostage.
joe rogan
Don't hold that whiskey hostage.
eddie bravo
Is this the joke, Alex Jones?
alex jones
All right, listen, let me give you guys the big frickin' data dump.
joe rogan
You want to pour the whiskey first?
alex jones
I'm willing to give it to you.
I'm not bullshitting.
I got the thing figured out.
joe rogan
Pour one for Eddie.
alex jones
I got it figured out, guys.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Pour a little more for me.
alex jones
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Alright, gentlemen, cheers.
eddie bravo
I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.
joe rogan
Cheers to you, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Here's to you, buddy.
Good stuff.
joe rogan
People were so...
On one side or the other when it comes to this.
There's so much anticipation regarding this podcast.
alex jones
So much bullying about don't have Alex Jones on, I bet.
joe rogan
Well, there was a lot of that.
There was a lot of, but you're going to call him on his racist shit.
Someone said that to me.
eddie bravo
That you're racist.
joe rogan
Alex Jones is one of the least racist people you'll ever fucking meet in your life.
I've never even heard you say a racial thing.
Race is so inconsequential to you.
alex jones
I'm into what people think and what they stand for.
joe rogan
You've never discussed race.
Ever.
In the almost, what have I known you, 16 fucking 17 years?
I've never heard you discuss race at all.
So someone calling you a racist, like, you're just making things up.
alex jones
All they do while Trump's waving a rainbow flag is say he's a homophobe.
joe rogan
There was a guy walking next to me in New York.
I was there after the election.
I was there for the UFC. It was right after the election.
And me and my friend Cam Haynes were walking back from the gym.
We went over to the gym.
We're walking back.
We walked right into the fucking protest.
And there was this guy that was standing next to me, screaming.
Donald Trump!
KKK! Racist!
Sexist!
unidentified
Anti-gay!
joe rogan
Donald Trump!
unidentified
KKK! Racist!
Sexist!
Anti-gay!
joe rogan
He just kept screaming it out as if Donald Trump's in the KKK. As if Donald Trump, are you sure he's racist?
Are you sure?
alex jones
Well, there's any discrimination.
unidentified
Are you sure he's anti-gay?
alex jones
It's that he mainly hires gay guys that run his casinos and hotels and his friends with him and, like, gave interviews with The Advocate 20 years ago.
It's all just complete made-up horse crap.
He's waving a rainbow flag at the RNC speech.
He says, But this is my problem with it.
joe rogan
My problem with it is that people want to use a real, you're a bigot, you're a this, you're a that.
They want to come up with a nice quick label and box you in.
It boxes you in and defines you and then you have to defend yourself.
I said it best at the beginning of this.
Donald Trump's not perfect.
He's a man, and he's also a super ambitious, super wealthy man that's constantly on the go, and those kind of dudes are type A, hyper-aggressive personalities, and he's definitely said some shit he shouldn't have said.
Right?
I mean, don't you agree?
alex jones
Sure, we all do.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the big one is one that he said in confidence with that Billy Bush guy, the grab-em-by-the-pussy thing.
That's the big one.
alex jones
And who has it in confidence, especially if you're famous, said, man, it's crazy.
Women throw themselves on you.
You can do anything you want.
That's not sexual assault.
A woman's climbing up on top of you.
You can do whatever you want.
That's what mammals do.
She's showing she wants it.
She gets it.
eddie bravo
And they turn it into a sexual assault.
alex jones
It's pure horse crappy.
eddie bravo
Imagine if a woman said, yeah, I could just see it in their eyes.
I could just go up there and grab them in the balls.
joe rogan
We would laugh.
eddie bravo
We would laugh our fucking asses off.
joe rogan
If Rihanna just talked about how she can fuck any guy she wants, just walks up to him, grabs him by the dick, we would be like, ah, that bitch is crazy!
eddie bravo
Totally.
joe rogan
We would think it's amazing.
eddie bravo
He's talking to my groupies.
He wasn't talking about that he hides behind bushes and waits for joggers and reaches out and grabs him.
alex jones
It's also out of context.
joe rogan
It's out of context.
He's having a guy conversation.
He described it as locker room talking.
unidentified
And there's an asshole outside with a recorder going, oh, I got this.
joe rogan
And this is not defending it.
I mean, it's definitely not...
Something you should have said probably, right?
We can all agree to that.
Sure, exactly.
What is he really doing?
He's really what we call talking shit.
Like, Eddie and I have talked shit so much to each other laughing, saying things we totally don't believe, we totally don't mean, but we're trying to make each other laugh.
alex jones
You're being silly.
joe rogan
Eddie and I are silly all the time.
You had a transcript of all the conversations that you and I have had over the fucking 17 years we've been friends?
Oh, shit.
We'd be in trouble.
eddie bravo
Can't put it on air.
joe rogan
We'd be in fucking real trouble.
alex jones
You guys are really being funny.
joe rogan
You just took them out of context.
alex jones
We're throwing on Facebook mentions and did that last thing.
You guys were being so funny watching the stupid TV show.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that show was awesome.
alex jones
And then as soon as I turned the camera on, you wouldn't say all that stuff.
None of it was bad, but it was like off the cuff.
You weren't censoring.
joe rogan
Well, I forgot what I said, too.
There's a lot of marijuana involved in this conversation.
eddie bravo
Go off.
alex jones
It's been forever since I wore headphones.
Jesus, I'm putting these off.
joe rogan
You don't like them?
You don't have to wear them.
You're so loud.
You don't have to worry about it.
Alex Jones is here.
alex jones
No, seriously.
I just want to do a good job and actually reach out to your...
A hundred and ten million.
joe rogan
Who knows how many?
alex jones
No, you've got 90 million downloads a month, 20 million on YouTube, all the derivatives and everything else you're doing.
And I hear you sometimes on XM. Are you still doing that?
joe rogan
No.
No, I'm not on the XM anymore.
alex jones
Well, whatever.
The point is that you're one of the biggest shows in the world.
Let me give you a little newsflash.
Not for your ego.
You need to know this.
joe rogan
I don't need to know this.
alex jones
As a signal to the mainstream media of how pathetic they are.
CNN's top show has maybe a million viewers.
Their average show, about 100,000.
Fox's top show, maybe 4 million a night on a bigger night.
Okay, great.
Good for them.
I'm not in competition with them.
The point is, they're a frickin' joke.
I conservatively, every day on terrestrial radio, have 4 million listeners on my 200 plus stations.
That's rated.
Proven.
I mean, that's big right there.
And then...
Millions and millions of downloads every day.
Tens of millions of people watching the videos.
You add it all together.
Forty-something million a week.
We go back to this.
What's happening?
It isn't about Joe Rogan or Alex Jones or Eddie Bravo or any of that.
It's about the people are hungry for being able to have a wider selection of things.
joe rogan
You and I are in totally different categories because all I'm trying to do is give them interesting content.
You're actually trying to run a news show and expose things.
alex jones
Oh, but you've got really smart commentary.
I watch clips all the time.
joe rogan
I have people on all the time, but it's just talking.
eddie bravo
You try to open mine.
I try to open minds a different way.
joe rogan
I'm honestly not trying to open minds.
I'm being curious and I'm asking questions and I'm trying to learn as much myself.
And then once I do learn about things, I would like to have that person come on to teach other people about it because I think it's interesting.
alex jones
Well, here's the big enchilada for folks.
If you want, I can lay this out.
And I'd like to make a documentary down the road and actually break this down.
But there is a whole breakaway civilization.
And listen, I don't get into UFOs.
Get ready.
I don't ever talk about this.
joe rogan
For real?
Breakaway civilization?
alex jones
Are you ready?
joe rogan
Hold on.
alex jones
Joe, how many things did I tell you over the years?
joe rogan
Too many.
Too many that came true.
eddie bravo
There was a couple that you got wrong.
You can't get them all right.
joe rogan
Which one?
eddie bravo
Y2K, people knock you all the time.
alex jones
Explain that.
eddie bravo
Explain the Y2K. But it's okay.
Conspiracy theory is just not trusting criminals.
Every now and then you can't pin that murder to the criminal, but he's still a criminal, even though you're wrong.
alex jones
Well, one of the things I'm actually embarrassed about is the Y2K. It's okay.
joe rogan
Well, listen, you're not a computer expert, and here am I. I didn't go anywhere that night.
I stayed fucking home, and I was waiting for that goddamn power to go out.
alex jones
Yeah, I didn't know either.
eddie bravo
2012, I didn't know.
I thought, damn, the Mayans knew.
joe rogan
Dude, we thought it was over.
alex jones
I didn't think that.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo and I were convinced.
eddie bravo
You bet 2012 license plate, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had a December 2012 license plate.
I did.
alex jones
Oh, is this tobacco?
joe rogan
Yes, it's strong tobacco from Mexico.
alex jones
I guess I am in California.
This is for medical reasons?
joe rogan
Yes, 100% medical reasons and legal.
Yeah, man, look, there's a lot of things that people think are going to happen that turn out to not happen.
There's always a goddamn asteroid that's going to kill us all that doesn't actually hit.
unidentified
Good for you.
joe rogan
It's important to not inhale.
eddie bravo
Tell us the news, Alex.
joe rogan
So what is going on?
Aliens are coming?
alex jones
Well, let me answer...
joe rogan
Nibiru?
alex jones
Before I do this, let me answer his question, because he had a Reagan question, too.
Yeah.
Well, let me answer Y2K, because I want to be honest about this.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
This is one of the few things that I have really gotten wrong.
And I didn't go with my gut.
And so I was proven wrong.
And I did it for the wrong reason.
So now I'm going to actually confess.
I was on one radio station.
I've been on AXS TV for a few years.
I was on one radio station.
I already started a show out of my house that was on like 15 radio stations.
So I had that at least.
But I was on one big radio station.
Had the top show at night.
Stationed with Howard Stern.
Was a killer.
Was all over the newspaper.
Had huge ratings.
And I was bringing in like 20, 30 grand a month, which was just a huge amount for me.
Building a whole operation out of that at home.
And they come to the sales guys and they go, look, for a year you've not been behind Y2K. And you're not letting us have all these big sponsors, and you're going to basically be fired if you don't let us endorse these sponsors and have them on air and say you believe in Y2K. Hold on a second.
joe rogan
So these sponsors were like doomsday stuff, like canned food and shit?
alex jones
And bunkers and everything else.
unidentified
So they've got to push Y2K. You've got to push Y2K. That's hilarious.
alex jones
But the station wants to make all this money.
joe rogan
So the station made you push Y2K. Wow.
alex jones
But let me go further.
This is one of the few times in my life that I... I don't want to say I didn't have integrity.
I kind of let them convince me.
But I think back to the point in the conference room, I just kind of went, okay, okay, okay, sure, I get it.
And then I went, and then once I decided it was true, I really pushed it.
So it's almost like I lied to myself, because I'm being honest about this process.
So this is what happened.
For like a year and a half, I'm saying it's BS. It's a government hoax because they're like, the Navy says the chips are all bad and 54 cities will completely fall and it's all the death.
And I said, they just want to upgrade with all this new spy hubs.
They want a new global standardization for the U.S. It's the Telecommunications Act of 96. They want to force all the new chips because I had NSA sources then that I was having on, okay?
And I didn't realize how special it was that I had these sources.
They're telling me it's all BS. And people are like, don't argue with the Navy.
And Fox News had ads to get your food.
It was just everywhere.
So I went, okay, hell, okay, stuff's going to be real.
joe rogan
So it was like a Black Friday for Doomsday people.
alex jones
It was like a Black Friday deal.
So the last few months, and the moral was they ended up firing me anyways.
joe rogan
They did?
alex jones
But the moral was I kind of convinced myself it was real.
So by the end of it, and of course they edited it like 12 hours and beyond that day into like five minutes.
I'm totally insane.
But it's like nuclear reactor having a problem here, and it really was happening.
And like, you know, Oh, and there was a missile fired from Russia, which, like, was an ICBM, and they got, like, shot down.
That was ABC News.
So I'm like, all right, this isn't really happening.
Okay, you know, we got prepared.
It's always going to be prepared, but hopefully the reactor's having a problem.
Okay, some stuff.
There was some outages and some problems.
But government and MSM had hyped it.
Then they used it to demonize alternative media, even then, when it wasn't catastrophic.
My gut told me it was BS. It was BS. And so, thank God, I missed the whole 2012 thing.
But still, they said, Alex Jones says the world's ending Nibiru 2012, where if you really search what I say, it's all a load of crap.
But I didn't criticize you when I saw you doing it.
joe rogan
I was balls deep in Nibiru.
alex jones
I said, I hope he's wrong.
But here's the thing.
It wasn't just the radio station.
It was the radio station.
It was the listeners.
They were pissed at me that I wouldn't go into this thing.
joe rogan
Well, it's fun for them.
See when you start talking about the end of the world or doomsday coming people like that shit because it gives them something to think about But here's a lot of people Future I know I'm not doomsday.
It was a long time ago 17 years ago, right?
Why 2k 17 fucking years ago at least and 2012 didn't get you so I redeemed yourself.
Yeah, you can 17 think about 17 years ago.
This That's a long time ago.
Getting fired from that job, every great radio guy's gotten fired.
Howard Stern.
Everyone got fired.
You got fired.
It was just like Howard Stern.
alex jones
I had top ratings, and they were all pissed and weird about it.
The weird thing is they didn't mess with the losers.
They were all flipping out because I was getting the big paychecks.
joe rogan
Well, it makes sense.
eddie bravo
It was the same thing.
joe rogan
And the Y2K thing totally makes sense.
That they would want you to really push that and sell it hard.
Because who the fuck knows?
You know, we don't know.
You get scared.
You're like, what if they're hiding this from us?
alex jones
Alex, the Navy says it's going to happen.
Washington Post.
Now, your listeners are really...
And it was the one time I went, okay, maybe I'll go do it.
joe rogan
I had people on that were telling me there was something that was going to happen on 2012. They were sure of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
The Mayans.
joe rogan
No, it's not a bully thing.
alex jones
Well, you just hear everybody doing it.
You start, like, stampeding like Lemmicks.
joe rogan
There's a lot of double-crossing going on.
eddie bravo
Just massive double-crossing.
Because I really used to be into UFOs.
But the more you look into UFOs, it looks like...
And that's another conspiracy theory.
It looks like the government used UFOs as a distraction.
alex jones
Listen, I had a guy who was going to give me the full NASA deal.
And when he came to the meeting, he couldn't do it.
I knew this guy well.
And then the next time he was going to meet with me, his heart blew up.
joe rogan
It blew up?
Like a bomb in his heart?
alex jones
No, they said his heart completely ruptured.
The point is, his name was Raymond Teague, and if you look at Mission Control, he was the main guy on Mission Control that controlled the cameras and everything.
And he...
I've been to his house.
He had national security letters from the president.
He'd run, like, secret operations in Cambodia and Laos.
He was an Air Force engineer.
And he knew the whole deal.
eddie bravo
He knew what whole deal?
alex jones
He would say, I need to meet with you and tell you everything.
And he would come and start gulping.
And he couldn't get it out.
eddie bravo
Couldn't get what out?
alex jones
He said he was so threatened or whatever, he couldn't tell me.
unidentified
About NASA. He probably left and he was laughing.
joe rogan
He was in the car.
alex jones
No, no, no, Raymond wasn't.
joe rogan
He thinks I was having a hard time.
alex jones
No, he did tell me a lot of it.
joe rogan
This crazy motherfucker.
alex jones
He said, Alex, your sources are right.
There were advanced technologies.
We were worried the astronauts might die.
They had two teams in orbit.
One with the real ships.
This is not a joke, Joe.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
alex jones
They had one with the advanced ships.
joe rogan
The real ships had UFOs in orbit and they were communicating with them?
alex jones
You think Kennedy and the government and everybody and Nixon are going to have this giant thing about America's number one and not have a backup plan if the astronauts die?
joe rogan
Put those headphones back on.
You lost your fucking mind.
This weed has got you into a corner.
Hold on.
Let him finish there.
Tell me what you're trying to say.
Are you trying to say that...
So the United States government...
alex jones
Raymond Teague was going to give me the secret of NASA. Okay.
And then he couldn't ever get it out.
eddie bravo
You don't know what it is, though.
You don't know what it is.
alex jones
No, they had a second program.
joe rogan
They had a second program.
unidentified
How do you know?
eddie bravo
He died.
alex jones
And he told me.
eddie bravo
Before the heart attack?
joe rogan
In the middle of the heart attack.
eddie bravo
I have a second.
No, no.
alex jones
I met with him at the old SAC command base.
eddie bravo
What did he actually tell you?
Word for word.
alex jones
He told me, he said, from your analysis, your sources, you're dead on.
I was in control of the video and radio communications.
If you go to TV, it's him on TV. That's very important, the guy controlling the camera.
He was on Mission Control 1. He had two backups behind that.
eddie bravo
Are you kidding?
Of course.
The moon landings, are you kidding?
Come on.
alex jones
Well, you raised it.
You wanted to know.
eddie bravo
Come on.
That's ridiculous.
That's why I don't trust the government.
That's why I don't trust anything from NASA. Because they ran a fake op.
alex jones
They didn't want to spend money.
They ran a fake op with just re-entry devices and basic stuff in space and did shoot some of it.
But then they had a real mission that put the reflectors and everything on the moon.
We went to the moon, bro.
eddie bravo
There's no proof of that real.
joe rogan
So you believe...
eddie bravo
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
Well, you know that the Russian government...
alex jones
Do you know how many people died in the secret space program?
joe rogan
Alex, a lot.
You know that the Russian government put those laser sight...
Those laser reflectors on the moon as well, with unmanned probes.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
You know that, right?
alex jones
And there's dead Chinese.
The Chinese have been to the moon a bunch.
joe rogan
So that's not like the best...
eddie bravo
Nobody went.
joe rogan
There's weird evidence...
alex jones
Nobody went!
The damn thing's not even that far away!
eddie bravo
Are you kidding?
Are you kidding?
joe rogan
So, Alex, you think they definitely went to the moon, that just the footage is fake?
Is that what you think?
alex jones
Yeah, you can't bring film back to the Van Allen radiation belt to get spots all over it.
joe rogan
Right.
But if we don't have film, what would lead us to believe that they definitely did it?
alex jones
Because they had RCA cameras.
eddie bravo
How come they trashed all the telemetry data?
joe rogan
There's some amazing footage, right?
There's amazing footage of them circling the moon.
alex jones
Because they put a fake launch in space in case the real mission died.
joe rogan
So who's in the fake launch?
alex jones
They're not going to show you the real crap they got.
eddie bravo
Who's in the real?
What happened in the...
alex jones
The U.S. military is 50 years in advance.
joe rogan
Okay, but let him answer this, Eddie.
So we've got to figure this out.
So what you're saying is...
The one that we saw on TV with Neil Armstrong, one small step for man, that's all horseshit.
But the real one actually took place.
They just couldn't get the film back.
alex jones
But Armstrong had been on real missions.
joe rogan
Yes, he definitely been on real missions.
I don't know.
alex jones
He wouldn't tell me all of it.
He died before we met.
joe rogan
The other dude.
alex jones
I was meeting him the next day, and his wife called.
My dad was friends with him.
eddie bravo
Neil Armstrong?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
The other guy.
What's his name?
alex jones
Okay, Buzz Aldrin.
I do know Buzz Aldrin.
Buzz Aldrin said, I want to come on your show.
I know he lives here in L.A., and one time I ran into him, but we'll just leave it at that.
And he said, I want to come on your show.
And I said, all right, well, come on.
And it's the only interview he said, and he goes, I'm going to tell you, Alex, and your audience alone, he said, there is an obelisk, just like 2001, it's on the moon of Mars, the sole moon, and it's sending a transmission, and it's all real, and it's all Egypt, and there's aliens and everything else.
And it's the only time he ever said it.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
Who said that?
joe rogan
Is there a clip of that?
unidentified
Yeah, pull it up.
joe rogan
Pull that up immediately.
alex jones
Dude, it was on ABC Nightly News the next day.
eddie bravo
Let me see that shit.
joe rogan
Do you think he was fucking with you?
alex jones
No, he was real.
joe rogan
Seems a feisty fellow.
alex jones
I can't tell you the whole story.
eddie bravo
I think he's full of shit.
joe rogan
Why do you think he's full of shit?
What if it's true?
Can you imagine if there is an obelisk on Mars?
eddie bravo
I think that's just to get beat out.
alex jones
There's an obelisk on the moon of Mars.
joe rogan
The moon of Mars.
Phobos?
Is that what it's called?
alex jones
Yeah, he said we gotta land there.
eddie bravo
Dude, have you seen his Instagram, Buzz Aldrin?
joe rogan
No, is it good?
A lot of bitches.
eddie bravo
It's amazing.
joe rogan
A lot of boats.
eddie bravo
You gotta follow him.
joe rogan
Boaches and bitches and boats.
eddie bravo
He's just like, he's just loving it.
joe rogan
Okay, hold on a second.
eddie bravo
Buzz Alden's loving Instagram.
unidentified
Let's give some people with their habitation, we can keep track if there's something very important to be developed from the moon.
I'm not sure what it is right now.
eddie bravo
Of course you don't.
unidentified
And I sure think you should identify what it is.
alex jones
Andy, you want the truth?
eddie bravo
I'll give you the truth.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I want to hear what he says.
alex jones
You want to hear about Buzz Aldrin?
joe rogan
I want to hear, but I want to hear what he says first.
Let's hear what he says.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yes.
Go ahead, Jimmy.
unidentified
America to make such gross expenditures again for human habitation on the moon.
We can help.
We can join with.
Together, we can...
Explore the moon and develop the moon.
eddie bravo
And steal tax money.
We could do it together.
alex jones
Oh, bullshit.
unidentified
Is this where he talks about the obelisk?
alex jones
No, it's on my show.
joe rogan
This is C-SPAN. Visit the moon of Mars.
unidentified
There's a monolith there, a very unusual structure on this little potato-shaped object that goes around Mars once in seven hours.
When people find out about that, they're going to say, who put that there?
Who put that there?
Well, The universe.
Put it there.
If you choose, put it there.
Come on, man.
eddie bravo
That's like a...
Come on.
That guy wants $4 billion.
alex jones
I didn't even know he'd go on another show.
That's before him.
joe rogan
That's after me.
eddie bravo
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
So that's the monolith, that thing that you're looking at?
Wow, that's weird.
eddie bravo
I don't believe that shit for a second.
alex jones
Okay, let me tell you about Buzz Aldrin.
I was here in Los Angeles, and I can't tell you anything else.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
Look at this monolith on Phobos.
How weird.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like a weird structure.
eddie bravo
Who knows that's a real picture?
That's all bullshit.
alex jones
Yeah, it's all bullshit.
unidentified
Come on.
Oh, look at that.
eddie bravo
That proves it.
alex jones
Jet airplanes are all bullshit.
eddie bravo
I don't know shit about Photoshop, and I can make that.
alex jones
Okay, I'm sure you can.
Can I tell you the big secret about my secret meeting with...
joe rogan
Yes, please.
eddie bravo
Okay, please.
Let me hear the shit he fed you.
joe rogan
Well, no, Eddie, don't...
unidentified
Let's go ahead and let him communicate.
alex jones
He told me that Papa Smurf is real.
unidentified
Let me tell you what he told me.
alex jones
He told me...
He said, you know India is sending a probe to the moon, and they'll announce that when they crash the probe, they found the undersea frozen ice that covers the moon.
The moon has dust on it.
It's a big water ball.
It's gonna be the water we need to get off the planet, and we make our big jump.
So the whole point is, notice everything's laid out on the planet, just perfect for humanity.
We make the steps right.
But it's like a video game.
joe rogan
Buzz Aldrin, hi as fuck.
alex jones
Buzz Aldrin, no, you're not listening!
eddie bravo
He's fucking with you.
alex jones
Then India crashed the probe, found exactly what they were saying.
And I've walked through an airport a year later and looked over, and it says India discovers water on the moon, and it's all water.
joe rogan
Well, they've definitely discovered water on the moon, right?
That's pretty much confirmed.
alex jones
Buzz Aldrin told me about it a year before.
joe rogan
Is that right?
Am I correct in saying they found water on the moon?
eddie bravo
Are they still breathing Buzz Aldrin?
Is he going to the meetings and they tell him shit?
alex jones
Listen.
joe rogan
Yeah, he went to the moon.
alex jones
You want to get into work stuff?
I don't get into all this stuff, okay?
I'm telling you, Buzz Aldrin told me in a year it's going to be on the news that they discovered water with a probe they're sending before they were even sending a probe in the news.
They let India, quote, find it.
Because the U.S. already found it.
It's already been on the moon God knows how many times.
The word is they've got military bases on the other side.
Dude, we had nuclear subs in the 50s.
What do you think we got now?
joe rogan
So you think they have bases on the moon?
alex jones
Well, I'll never get into all this stuff.
joe rogan
Right.
Don't do that.
alex jones
But let's just say it's super advanced.
joe rogan
So you really think that they have some sort of a base out there that we don't know about?
That's so far away.
Why wouldn't they just do it on the desert somewhere?
What is this?
MIP detected water on the moon way back in June.
Huh.
eddie bravo
They're dropping disinfo on you, Alex.
alex jones
Well, I mean, Buzz Aldrin tells me they're going to announce India finds water on the moon.
eddie bravo
Oh, my God.
Buzz Aldrin.
Follow him on Instagram and then come back to me with some Buzz Aldrin.
joe rogan
Follow him on Instagram.
alex jones
I'm only telling you what Buzz Aldrin told me.
joe rogan
Look at this.
The moon impact probe, which crash-landed at a designated site on the lunar south pole on November 14, 2008, had picked up some clear signatures of water during its 25-minute descent.
unidentified
It needs to get deep.
alex jones
That's why they crash it.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mr. Nair said at a press conference here on Friday.
Interesting.
eddie bravo
Hey, you know what?
When it comes to Space Alex, that's not your forte.
But one thing I want to ask you.
Buzz Aldrin is telling you shit.
alex jones
I want to attack him.
eddie bravo
His back's hurt.
unidentified
Follow Buzz Aldrin on Instagram and then come back at me.
alex jones
Listen, can I just say...
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo, what's going on with his Instagram?
What's up with Buzz Aldrin?
eddie bravo
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
How so?
eddie bravo
He's just like...
He's so into it.
alex jones
Did you see when the guy comes over?
He goes, you're full of crap.
He ever went to the moon and he just punches him out?
eddie bravo
Hey, check this out.
I wanted to ask you, what do you think, is Trump going to do anything about the stratospheric aerosol injections?
alex jones
Write that down.
joe rogan
Are we talking about chemtrails now?
eddie bravo
No, we're talking about stratospheric aerosol injections.
alex jones
I can't get to any of the points, but you won't let me, you know.
eddie bravo
Do you think Trump wants to stop that?
alex jones
I'm going to write it down.
eddie bravo
Write what down.
joe rogan
Write what down.
alex jones
The next question.
I'll do it here.
eddie bravo
That's the question.
joe rogan
That's the question.
He just said it.
alex jones
The question is, do you last five before that?
joe rogan
Alex Jones is off the rails right now, folks.
Bring it in, Alex.
eddie bravo
I didn't get the joke.
Why do I have to write it down?
I didn't get it.
alex jones
Because you've been bad.
eddie bravo
Listen, Alex.
Alex.
unidentified
Will Trump, is Trump going to do anything about that?
eddie bravo
That program to stop global warming?
alex jones
Yeah, he'll do something about it.
joe rogan
Well, what do you think the program is, Eddie?
What do you think the program is?
eddie bravo
The director of the CIA is talking about it on YouTube.
Look under John O'Brennan.
joe rogan
I've seen it.
eddie bravo
John O'Brennan.
joe rogan
They talk about strategies.
They talk about strategies.
eddie bravo
Stratospheric aerosol injections.
It's going to cost $10 billion a year.
And there's going to be some countries opposed to it because it's going to mess up the weather.
alex jones
Are you telling me about atmospheric manipulation?
eddie bravo
I'm talking about stratospheric aerosol.
alex jones
SAI. I've never heard of that.
joe rogan
It's super important when you can break it down to three letters.
alex jones
Yeah, let me go over it.
eddie bravo
That's what John O'Brennan admitted in June of 2008. I saw the video.
alex jones
Let me comment on it.
eddie bravo
Can you play it, Jamie?
alex jones
You can just go John O'Brien.
I've been talking about this forever, and Joe, I'm not bashing you, but you had your TV show made jokes about it, which I get, because a lot of it's BS. There is an entire atmospheric, terraforming, geoengineering manipulation.
They don't call it chemtrails, and of course the CIA director admitted they have this huge program.
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation owns the major patents on it from Westinghouse and others.
They use these big antennas to manipulate the weather they can.
China is causing huge rains and stuff.
You're talking like HAARP? Yes, HAARP technology.
It's all declassified.
joe rogan
Do you think HAARP manipulates the weather?
alex jones
They admit it does.
I used to have the head of HAARP, General Bittenkay Parton, all the time.
But exactly, there's giant weather modification systems, and there's weather wars between different governments, and it's all declassified.
joe rogan
Let's explain to people that are listening what HAARP is.
What does it stand for?
High Altitude...
Something...
alex jones
Yeah, they've got a system that supposedly...
You don't know what HAARP really was under its classification?
joe rogan
What does it stand for?
High Frequency Active Aurora Research Program.
So the idea behind this was they wanted to do research on the Aurora, and didn't they want to see if they could communicate using it and send radio waves to bounce off the atmosphere?
alex jones
They wanted it over the horizon radar.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, that, and they also wanted to be able to send radio signals to places where they wouldn't reach, right?
alex jones
But HAARP doesn't really go into it.
eddie bravo
But what does that have to do with stratospheric aerosol injections?
alex jones
HAARP doesn't really go into the atmosphere.
joe rogan
Well, the speculation, Eddie.
alex jones
I know all the HAARP secrets.
I've interviewed the private head of it.
I actually know the HAARP secrets.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
I don't know why the Pentagon decided to let him on my show.
eddie bravo
How does HAARP work with the chemtrails?
Let me tell you.
What goes on?
alex jones
Only a micronic amount, a small amount of what HAARP does is in the atmosphere.
It's bouncing off the aurora borealis and then resonating back through in a deep earth communication program to satellites and other things through the planet.
So it's something you can communicate to satellites, through the satellites down to the submarines.
joe rogan
So here it goes.
This is an actual definition, how HAARP works.
The facility's transmitters send radio waves upward.
But hold on, let's just read it first.
Waves upwards into the ionosphere between 100 and 350 kilometers of altitude.
The resulting heating effect creates irregularities in the electron density there, which in turn allows communication signals as from satellites to be relayed off the ionosphere.
alex jones
That's not what it really does.
Shoot the satellite frequency coded through the Earth to submarines.
joe rogan
Now, what is this website from that explains this, Jamie?
alex jones
And the submarine puts up a buoy.
You want the real stuff, I'll tell you.
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
eddie bravo
Nature magazine.
alex jones
Let me explain something.
joe rogan
Okay, nature.com.
alex jones
I have the head of the HAARP program on.
eddie bravo
I'm just fucking with you.
alex jones
I got contacted about 10 years ago, and they said the head of the HAARP project really likes your work.
He liked to come on.
The interview's online.
He liked to come on and tell everybody.
And about 30 minutes in, a colonel came on the line and said sorry during a break and cut the guy off.
joe rogan
Wow.
Dum-dum-dum.
alex jones
I mean, this really happens.
joe rogan
Cue spooky music.
alex jones
Cue spooky music.
Let me get back.
joe rogan
I believe you.
alex jones
That's a true story.
eddie bravo
I want to know the relationship between, like, what do the chemtrails have to do?
Do you think Trump is going to look into the SIA project that the CIA has greenlit?
alex jones
He is starting out with vaccines, as I told people he would do, investigating all the damage they've caused.
eddie bravo
Ultimately, that's good, too.
The vaccines get that shit together, too, for sure.
But what about the SAI? You think Trump is going to do anything about that?
joe rogan
You're so locked onto this.
Here's the problem with all this SIA shit.
Most of what you see when you see those jets flying around, those clouds behind them, most of that is just a jet engine.
alex jones
And everybody confuses that with the real program.
eddie bravo
What's the real program?
alex jones
Well, here's the thing.
You're right, and so is Joe, because the world's It's complex.
There are secret and quasi-secret and public programs to test manipulation of the weather and weather systems.
The Arabs are doing it.
The Chinese are doing it.
The Russians are doing it.
joe rogan
Well, people have been cloud seeding for 100 years now.
eddie bravo
He's not talking about cloud seeding.
joe rogan
The Chinese were doing it 500 years ago.
That is weather manipulation.
eddie bravo
But they're doing it for different purposes.
Not to produce crops.
alex jones
Okay, I had Ben Livingston, the head of the U.S. weather weapon program for 27 years on my show first, because I saw it was declassified.
I saw that he was in the panhandle of Texas.
I called him running a major cloud sitting company with his son and got the 90 year old to Austin.
And then after that, he totally freaked out because the CIA came to his house.
Do you want the interviews on YouTube?
Do you want to know what he said?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
He was a World War Two fighter pilot.
And at the end of World War Two, he flew the first planes into hurricanes, which are in the Atlantic.
joe rogan
That's pretty gangster.
alex jones
And into Typhoon.
Fuck.
And then he also led squadrons in Vietnam flooding everything up to 10 feet of water out of clear blue skies within hours.
eddie bravo
What a badass.
alex jones
With their chemicals.
joe rogan
What kind of badass do you have to be to do that?
alex jones
Super badass.
joe rogan
Fly into a hurricane or a typhoon?
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
Yeah, he's the first guy to do it.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
alex jones
Anyways.
He's super badass.
I don't even know if he's alive.
He's Ben Livingston.
At 90, he was still all there, and I thought at 90 he could kick my ass.
He was a big Texan.
I felt like the guy was tougher than me.
Anyways, so we're sitting there, and he gives me all this data, and I can't believe it.
He's giving me all these classified photos and stuff because they just declassified the file.
No one thought to call the old man from Lubbock or whatever it was.
So I call him.
I get him on.
They sent a bunch of people to their company and threatened them the next week after I heard it.
And he laid it out.
He said, in 1967, we certified at the Stanford Research Institute that he was able to control hurricanes, create hurricanes, and steer hurricanes.
All that got black-budgeted, shut down, and then they got into these arrays where they could use antennas.
And out of that in Westinghouse came...
The whole heart program.
So in the 60s, they could create, control, and steer or kill hurricanes.
That's why you Google now, Bill and Melinda Gates bought all those patents, and, quote, Bill Gates is going to save the world from bad weather.
Bill Gates wants to stop hurricanes.
joe rogan
Google it.
alex jones
Bill Gates owns the weather machines.
joe rogan
Let me pause for a second.
How do they manipulate a hurricane?
So the hurricane's going to happen.
How do they break it up?
alex jones
Okay.
If it's coming into lands, their problem with aerial arrays projecting into the sky, they can break it up or strengthen it or kill it or steer it.
And they're doing that with HAARP? Well, they've got heart bases all over the place.
They call them Doppler radar facilities.
Oh, the government wants your local city to have Doppler radar.
joe rogan
I thought that was like so you could have the guy in front of the screen.
alex jones
That's at like one-tenth of one percent.
They can crank those arrays up that have massive...
Your lights might go out when they do it a little bit.
unidentified
Really?
alex jones
Yeah, because they'll use the whole power of your town through the Doppler radars, and then they control it.
The U.S. has a giant weather weapon hidden in front of everybody in every town and city, and poor Russians and Chinese.
The U.S. has weather weapons that can knock them all out right now.
joe rogan
Can Bill Gates control the weather?
Ideas for barges to pump cold water from the depth of the ocean to create some sort of a roadblock for the hurricane.
Since hurricanes pull power from the water's warm temperatures, cooling the water could have theoretically lessened the impact to outright dismantle the hurricane.
Well, it sounds like a good idea, though.
alex jones
No, no, but the point is, look at how loving you as a photo.
joe rogan
But doesn't that sound like a genius idea?
You spray cold water into the air.
eddie bravo
It always does.
joe rogan
It'll cool off the hurricane.
eddie bravo
John O'Brien in front of the CFR is saying, we're doing this because...
For global warming, we've got to save the planet.
alex jones
You are right about geoengineering and chemtrails.
You are wrong about the dinosaurs not being wrong.
eddie bravo
But hey, what about that?
They're coming out saying, hey, there's going to be some countries that aren't going to be for it, and we've got to figure out how we're going to deal with them.
alex jones
Do you want me to give the audience the big secret?
joe rogan
Yes.
What's the big secret?
eddie bravo
Keep going with that weather manipulation.
Keep going with that.
Come on, man.
Don't change the subject.
Keep going with that.
You're not done with Livingston.
alex jones
It's good you're here, but imagine me and Joe were actually...
You want me to hear about Ronald Reagan, too, don't you?
unidentified
Later.
eddie bravo
Finish the SAI program.
joe rogan
Well, he doesn't know about this.
alex jones
I know about it, but it's like a minor deal.
joe rogan
What do you know about the SAI program?
Let's get this done with.
alex jones
Most of the real programs are just like fronts for something else.
It's not even real.
joe rogan
So you don't think they're spraying shit into the atmosphere?
alex jones
No, there is a program for geoengineering.
joe rogan
There's a program in place, and you said it's the Doppler radar system and HAARP and what else?
alex jones
And aerial spraying is still the most effective.
And what do they do?
joe rogan
When you say aerial spraying, what are they spraying?
alex jones
Barium salts, aluminum dioxide, radioactive isotopes.
joe rogan
They're spraying them in the air?
Why are they doing that?
alex jones
And the aluminum is because...
It does a bunch of things.
They're testing a bunch of stuff.
They're manipulating things.
Listen, our Pentagon is so crazy.
joe rogan
Right, but why do you have evidence that they're doing this and spraying aluminum and barium, whatever it is?
alex jones
You can go online and read the Department of Energy.
It's all public.
Just like he just said.
joe rogan
You can go online and watch a Chinese dude get jacked by a tiger.
alex jones
Oh, I agree.
joe rogan
That's out there, too.
alex jones
You can go to thedepartmentofenergy.gov, and you can watch CFR, the CIA director at the time, Brennan, admitting all this.
This is all public.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he admitted it.
He talked about it.
joe rogan
No, I saw it.
I saw the video.
We can play the video.
And go over it if you want.
But he's talking about various options for controlling global warming.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're laying out the future.
Look, if global warming is...
alex jones
There's a guy, I forget his name.
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
If global warming is real, and we know it is, right?
Don't you think they would have...
eddie bravo
I don't believe that.
joe rogan
You don't believe global warming's real?
eddie bravo
I think it's a scam.
joe rogan
So when they keep measuring these temperatures, and scientists keep saying that this is the hottest year on the record...
alex jones
No, they got caught faking the temperatures.
They came out and hacked emails.
joe rogan
Well, let's find out what the most recent thing is.
alex jones
Joe, I believe global warming's real.
I believe it's real.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
I believe that it goes high, it goes cold.
There's always microtemperatures.
joe rogan
There is always...
There's a big change.
There's shifts throughout time.
alex jones
Change is the only thing that ever happens.
But paying carbon taxes to Al Gore won't fix it.
joe rogan
Okay.
I think we all agree that there's shifts.
But what I'm saying is there absolutely is global warming, right?
eddie bravo
What does the CIA have to do with global warming?
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Hold on a second.
alex jones
Hold on a second.
My dad's farmhouse, when my dad was a kid in the 1950s, for three, four months out of the year, it was below zero or freezing, and you had to chop wood, and you'd freeze your ass off, and all houses had, even in the South, had...
You know, had all sorts of chimneys in them for fireplaces because it was freezing cold.
joe rogan
Right.
alex jones
And now there has been a warming period, but that's part of a normal global cycle based on the sun.
All these astrophysicists are sure the whole thing about claiming it's the carbon we put out.
The Earth is carbon-starved.
There's a carbon cycle.
That's the big story I want to get to.
The globalists want to tax.
If they can tax oxygen, carbon dioxide, water, or sunlight, they have total control over the whole life cycle of the planet.
joe rogan
Let's play the video.
Let's play the video of this CIA guy talking about it, because what I inferred from it is that they're trying to come up with some sort of solutions if global warming becomes a giant issue.
alex jones
By the way, Brennan is a frickin' known Wahhabist.
eddie bravo
Joe, look there like a detective.
What does the CIA have to do with global warming?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
What do they have to do?
That's what the CIA does.
They're supposed to stop spreading communism.
eddie bravo
They were built to stop the spread of communism.
joe rogan
Right, but it's an intelligence agency.
eddie bravo
What do they have to do with the environment?
joe rogan
Okay, they're a part of the intelligence community.
And if they got hired, I would imagine, this is just me guessing right off the top of my head, if they got hired to assess a threat...
And the threat being from global warming.
Like, what do we have to worry about?
Are we really going to lose cities?
Do we really have an issue where the grid goes down?
alex jones
No, their answer is, give George Soros and the U.N. total power for a $100 trillion per decade global tax to micromanage and surveil everything humans do.
Because if carbon's toxic, they've got to surveil it.
Thus, they have a jurisdiction to control our lives.
joe rogan
Okay, hold up.
Why does it say debunked?
CIA director admits chemtrails, geoengineering, stratospheric, aerosol injections.
Guys, the Council of Foreign Relations wrote a white paper calling for it.
Hold on, hold on.
At the Council, admits geoengineering in the form of stratospheric aerosol injections, SAI, is taking place, i.e.
chemtrails.
And the rebuttal is, nowhere in his speech is there an admission that an SAI program has already taken place.
The part where Brennan mentions geoengineering is just one example out of several not-often-mentioned issues that the CIA monitors for potential That's totally possible.
alex jones
Let me break down the reality here.
joe rogan
But isn't that possible?
alex jones
Let me break down the reality.
joe rogan
What that guy just said.
Is that possible?
alex jones
No, that's basically what Brennan said.
joe rogan
But what he's saying is that there are potential threats.
alex jones
Do you want to hear what I was saying?
joe rogan
Environmentally, it's an issue.
Right?
So he's not admitting that there's an SAI program.
alex jones
No, there are.
Let me tell you.
joe rogan
Okay.
Go ahead.
Tell me.
alex jones
Everybody debates how many programs there are, all the specifics.
A lot of that's classified.
You can Google China launches major weather control operations 10 years ago.
Or Qatar does it, or Saudi Arabia, or the UK, or EU. For sure, people have studied it.
No, no.
joe rogan
Right?
alex jones
They call it study.
There's a giant...
Hell, in 2005, the Department of Energy program for aerosol testing was $5 billion a year.
So under U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1528, Paragraph B... Is that true?
joe rogan
You nailed that right there?
alex jones
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
What are you, from Mars?
alex jones
Under U.S. Code Title...
joe rogan
Do you live on that obelisk?
eddie bravo
That was fucking insane.
alex jones
Let me just tell you.
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I can't even remember the last time a cheetah fought.
eddie bravo
And this motherfucker...
alex jones
Listen, under U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1528, Paragraph B... That's insane!
joe rogan
That's insane!
Hold on, say it slow and let Jamie write it up.
alex jones
U.S. Code, Title 50, Chapter...
I've got to say it fast to remember it.
joe rogan
U.S. Code, Title 50, Chapter 32. Subsection 1528, Paragraph B. Subsection 128. The real fast brain only works at that speed.
alex jones
In fact, speech can't even say it.
It's like one thought.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
How the fuck do you know that?
Restrictions on use of human subjects for testing of chemtrails.
Go back.
There you go.
Or biological agents.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Now, what they do in this is they say it's illegal to test unless it's for research.
Then you're allowed to even kill people if it's for research purposes.
joe rogan
Do you know that's how some of those Japanese whaler vessels get away with?
With killing whales still?
They say it's for research purposes.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
And they kill the whales and sell them.
It's dark shit.
alex jones
The elites are the mad scientist engineers.
I'm going to give you the big secret, man, if you want it.
joe rogan
Yes, I do.
alex jones
I'm not kidding around.
joe rogan
I know I'm not either.
alex jones
The thing is, they're the high priest.
They're scientists.
They're engineers.
They're allowed to kill people.
Test stuff on kids, inject black people with syphilis, all the declassified stuff, because they are scientists.
All the real executioners, torturers, or most of them, or people making decisions, are doctors.
And so it's all medical doctor stuff in this big breakaway civilization of scientists.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
And so that's what they've built.
And under research provisions, they can even kill anybody they want.
joe rogan
All right, I'm going to go back, because we took Eddie's turn on chemtrails, but we did it to sidetrack from what you were saying about the moon.
And I want to go back to what you're saying.
Because you were saying that there was two completely different missions, and one of them was real, and that there was some sort of contact with aliens.
alex jones
No, I was getting better.
Is that what you were implying?
Well, let's just say this.
It's mind-blowing.
I was told by a top NASA individual, Raymond Teague, that indeed there was a breakaway program and that he heard and saw transmissions on some back channels.
Of real feeds and advanced ships that he'd never even seen that basically didn't even look like they were anything that he could imagine that was classified.
And he knew about some classified programs.
For every program you saw, there was at least 10 programs that were secret.
That's admitted about NASA. 90% secret or more.
And so he knew about a bunch of classified programs, and he was seeing...
Transmissions and things coming back and talk to people about a whole breakaway program they sent that was a lot safer, a lot bigger than the moon.
And they had guys up in orbit just basically so that even other foreign governments from the trajectory point would think they were getting transmissions back from the moon.
So they had people out, basically out outside the regular orbit where you just go around in circles, or is it geosynchronous where you're in one spot, transmitting back from a mathematical spot to look like transmissions to fool the Russians and everybody while the real mission was going on on the moon.
joe rogan
So you believe they went to the moon.
Do you think that it was Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins?
alex jones
Before Raymond would tell me everything, he died.
He said, I'm going to meet with you tomorrow, and he died.
joe rogan
Dude, that's like a movie.
alex jones
He told me, I'm ready, I'm going to tell you everything, and then he was just totally, it was crazy.
eddie bravo
But he did admit to you that what the public got was fake?
alex jones
Yeah, he couldn't get into it.
joe rogan
Well, there's some footage from the moon that looks so ridiculous, and most people have never seen that.
There's some footage of them...
Here's the big speculation.
This is one of the really big ones.
There was a lot of footage that they did where they were doing tests that they wound up just using for press releases.
They're using to say, this is actual footage on the moon.
alex jones
No, that's it.
They faked stuff for the project because they wanted to be guaranteed of it.
They wanted to have footage.
That's the truth, yeah.
joe rogan
But there was a thing with Michael Collins in Gemini 15.
There was a test photo of him with a test rig on, and it was suspended.
You could see the background behind him.
It was clear that he was suspended on wires.
And they took that same photo and blacked it out and used it as a press photo of him on an actual spacewalk.
But it's the same exact photo.
alex jones
Yeah, it's PR stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, they do that where they just go over it.
Back then, they used to actually use an X-Acto knife.
alex jones
Here's the thing.
My dad, when he was a junior in high school, was in the Plan 2 program at UT.
And they already had CD-ROMs and computers.
And they had a nuclear plant under UT nobody knew about.
And my dad told me about this when I was a teenager, and I would later go to the library and couldn't find it.
And then I Googled it, and it's not even really in the news.
But then I've gone to UT and talked to them, and they go, yeah, you know about the reactor under the building?
joe rogan
They have a reactor?
alex jones
Yeah, that Austin's got.
And then no one even knew that Austin has two nuclear reactors in North Austin.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Yeah, but that was after he was in college.
joe rogan
There's a reactor under which building in Austin, Texas?
alex jones
It's big.
It's a big railway system under there, but it's built right under, like I said, Jester.
joe rogan
So there's a nuclear reactor in Austin, Texas.
How many people know about this?
alex jones
You know, it's in the literature.
My dad told me about it when I was a kid.
I thought, I mean, I believe my dad.
My dad told me about a Dallas hospital that was killing people for their organs.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And like six years later, I saw it on 60 Minutes.
joe rogan
What?
alex jones
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were killing people for organs?
alex jones
Yep.
joe rogan
Really?
alex jones
My dad told me about that.
joe rogan
In Dallas, Texas.
eddie bravo
And then it was on 60 Minutes?
alex jones
Yeah, my dad said, when I was 16, or 15, taking driver's course, he said, don't sign that organ donor card.
I know hospitals that kill you.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
And I said, Dad, you're a kid.
He goes, no, he was an oral surgeon in Rewired Jaws.
He goes, I've heard this one kills people all the time.
joe rogan
That is one of the creepiest things you ever hear.
How about doctors?
eddie bravo
Can you imagine doctors that get kickbacks for organs that kind of let their patients die?
alex jones
Doctors are seen as the highest cast by the elite.
So they're the ones pulling all the stuff.
I'm telling you, man.
joe rogan
You know how creepy it would be to find out that a nurse that you were working with was killing people?
That's a story that happens over and over again.
alex jones
Is that real?
joe rogan
Some crazy nurse.
alex jones
Smart killers.
joe rogan
Oh, there's been a bunch.
eddie bravo
They get paid, though?
They get a kickback?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
eddie bravo
That should be illegal.
joe rogan
No, these nurses decide they don't want to take care of somebody, and they poison them.
They have someone, and maybe someone's dying slow, and they don't like it, and they just get tired of dealing with their bullshit.
alex jones
That's some of the time.
A lot of times they're sadistic.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, a lot of the times they're sadistic.
There's been a lot of cases.
alex jones
Dude, you're worse than I am about facts.
You're absolutely on target.
joe rogan
There's no fucking way I'm worse than you.
alex jones
You just rattle off that document.
You know everything, everything I know, and you're on target.
You just pretend you're not knowing all this stuff.
eddie bravo
The fact that you knew that document off the top of your head like that means you must have been obsessed with chemtrails, right?
alex jones
No, I know a bunch of doctors.
eddie bravo
How the fuck do you remember that shit?
joe rogan
I think he's got a crazy mind.
alex jones
I had a photographic memory until I was about 35, and now it's not good anymore.
joe rogan
Whiskey steals that from you.
alex jones
Old stuff I remember.
But I want to tell you guys the big enchilada.
joe rogan
Please, the big enchilada.
alex jones
Do I have to wear these headphones?
eddie bravo
No.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is when we don't have headphones on, we talk over each other.
It's hard when three people are talking.
No, it's none of our fault.
It's just natural.
alex jones
I got a conspiracy.
You are Bill Hicks.
joe rogan
No, I'm younger than him.
Totally different.
alex jones
I agree.
I love how Ivan had any success.
It's all Bill Hicks.
He was a funny guy, but give me a frickin' break, man.
joe rogan
Oh, don't listen to those people.
alex jones
And then the family's called me before and said, please stop the people saying you're Bill Hicks.
And I'm like, I don't control these damn people.
joe rogan
Don't worry about that.
Put the headphones back on.
alex jones
Put the headphones back on.
joe rogan
We'll be fine.
So, I need to know.
alex jones
Put the handcuffs back on.
joe rogan
I need to know.
What do you know about aliens?
And are aliens real?
alex jones
All right.
This is really big.
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, pour another shot of that.
Let's get this out properly.
alex jones
The question is, what does Donald Trump know about aliens?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, what does he know now, right?
Because he's in the office.
I don't know.
That would be the first thing I did.
alex jones
I think the Joe Rogan experience deserves to know.
joe rogan
The first thing I did, I would run to the office and I'd go, who's got the documents?
Who's got the alien documents?
Who's got them?
Who's got them?
That would be the first thing I would want to know, right?
Cheers, sir.
eddie bravo
Talk about boring shit while I piss.
alex jones
I gotta piss, too.
Yeah, you're a robot.
You never have to piss.
All right, let me give you my best deep research and proclamation once again.
joe rogan
What do you think is going...
Am I wrong to still hold out hope that aliens are real?
Because I'll tell you, the two guilty pleasures that I still cling to is Bigfoot and aliens.
Those are two.
Bigfoot, not so much.
I wish it was real, but I just don't think it is.
alex jones
Are you ready?
joe rogan
Yes.
Bigfoot's real?
alex jones
No.
joe rogan
Come on, Daddy.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
Are you ready?
joe rogan
Yes!
alex jones
I'm going to give you the big enchilada.
Joe, there are aliens in this room right now.
joe rogan
For real?
alex jones
Yeah, you're not of this world, bro.
joe rogan
Me?
alex jones
You're the alien.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
I didn't know.
It's like, there was like an old comic book about that, about some dude who was a forgetful professor.
And then he realized at the end of it, he was actually an alien from another planet that's sent down here to monitor people.
He just forgot.
alex jones
Well, here's what the elite believe.
And let me be very clear as the media will take this out of context.
I only go with what I can prove.
joe rogan
Oh, thank you.
alex jones
And people can't even handle that.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I'm really surprised how much you knew every angle of so-called Pizzagate that I'd even forgotten.
joe rogan
Well, to me, well, obviously, we both have children.
And when you hear about someone that wants to molest children...
It's a special kind of evil.
It's a special kind of fucked up.
And it's also a special kind of bizarre, twisted sickness that the human mind is capable of latching onto.
alex jones
Because we've got hard programming to want to take care of kids and be nice to them.
joe rogan
There's something very...
Crazy about people's brains.
And there's something very crazy about the weird variables that can potentially happen.
alex jones
I agree.
joe rogan
All sorts of weird, crazy aberrations in standard behavior.
The standard behavior of a bunch of people that are just normal folks.
You got kids, I got kids.
Oh, get the kids together for a play day.
You sit down, you have a couple beers, you laugh, you joke.
Have a good night, Bob.
Good night, Steve.
That's fucking normal shit, right?
When you're normal and there's normal people around you, you assume that everybody is basically a good person.
We all have our...
It's normal.
alex jones
The big, gorgeous chick that your wife comes in the bedroom, you get going.
You don't look at a five-year-old and think, that's what I want.
joe rogan
No, there's some, yeah, what you're trying to say is there's some people out there that have this horrific programming.
Whatever the fuck it is that causes it, there's a bunch of psychologists trying to speculate and figure out what causes pedophilia.
alex jones
But they need to be beaten in the head with a ball-peen hammer.
joe rogan
The thing is, it's real.
And it's terrifying.
alex jones
And we can't deny it's going on.
joe rogan
We can't deny it's real.
And it's also, like, fucking Jared from Subway, the Subway guy.
Subway guy's in jail for being a pedophile.
alex jones
Like, what the fuck, man?
They team up, and they usually have high intelligence.
And there's armies.
We're fighting a pedophile conspiracy, but beyond that, it's a vampire conspiracy in that they are interdimensionally sucking the essence of our youth, and they believe they're possessed by an off-world entity.
joe rogan
They do?
alex jones
Yeah, and Joe, I've been on air 22 years.
I don't get into aliens, metaphysical, religion, any of that.
I've studied the elite, and I've also communicated with a lot of the top people.
And if you want to know, I will actually break down right now the best knowledge right now of what's happening on the planet.
joe rogan
What's happening?
alex jones
Let me give you a basic gestalt.
joe rogan
Okay.
I love when you can use that word with full confidence.
I've never said that.
Let me give you a basic gestalt.
I'd be like, oh my God, I'm such a fraud.
alex jones
No, you're not.
joe rogan
No, but that's what I think if I use that word.
alex jones
No, you'll get all this because you already have most of the statics.
You're a bookworm, a research worm, in a good way.
The elite are all about transcendence and living forever and the secrets of the universe, and they want to know all this.
Some are good, some are bad, some are a mix.
But the good ones don't ever want to organize.
The bad ones tend to want to organize because they lust after power.
Powerful consciousnesses don't want to dominate other people.
They want to empower them so they don't tend to get together until things are really late in the game.
Then they come together.
Evil is always defeated because good is so much stronger.
And we're on this planet, and Einstein's physics showed it, Max Planck's physics showed it all.
There's at least 12 dimensions.
And now that's why all the top scientists and billionaires are coming out saying it's a false hologram.
It is artificial.
The computers are scanning it and finding tension points where it's artificially projected and gravity's bleeding in to this universe.
That's what they call dark matter.
So we're like a thought or a dream that's a wisp in some computer program, some God's mind, whatever.
They're proving it all.
It's all coming out.
Now, there's like this sub-transmission zone below the third dimension that's just turned over to the most horrible things is what it resonates to.
And it's trying to get up into the third dimension that's just a basic level consciousness to launch into the next levels.
And our species is already way up in the fifth, sixth dimension, consciously, our best people.
But there's this big war trying to, like, basically destroy humanity because humanity has free will, and there's a decision to which level we want to go to.
We have free will, so evil's allowed to come and contend, not just good.
And the elites themselves believe they're racing.
We're using human technology to try to take our best minds and build some type of breakaway civilization where they're going to merge with machines, transcend, and break away from the failed species that is man, which is kind of like a false transmission because they're thinking what they are is ugly and bad, projecting it onto themselves instead of believing, no, it's a human test about building us up.
And so Google was set up 18, 19 years ago.
I knew about this before it was declassified.
I'm just saying I have good sources, that they wanted to build a giant artificial system.
And Google believes that the first artificial intelligence will be a supercomputer based on the neuron activities of the hive mind of humanity with billions of people wired into it with the Internet of Things.
And so all of our thoughts go into it.
And we're actually building a computer that has real neurons in real time that's also psychically connected to us that are organic creatures so that they will have current prediction powers, future prediction powers, a true crystal ball.
But the big secret is, once you have a crystal ball and know the future, you can add stimuli beforehand and make decisions that control the future.
And so then it's the end of consciousness and free will for individuals, as we know, and a true 2.0 in a very bad way, hive mind consciousness with an AI jacked into everyone, knowing our hopes and dreams, delivering it to us, not in some PKD wirehead system where we plug in and give up on consciousness because of unlimited pleasure, but because we were already wired and absorbed before we knew it by giving over our consciousness to this system by our daily decisions that it was able to manipulate and control into a larger system.
There's now a human counter-strike taking place
The pedophiles are in control of AI? How do the pedophiles get in control of AI? What?
eddie bravo
Is that Satan?
joe rogan
That's Satan.
But explain that.
You're saying something insane.
alex jones
Preacher tells you about who's totally controlled or something you read about in the news or TV. But this is an interdimensional force that wants to influence us to build something that absorbs us and kills us rather than the divine free will we're given to build something much better that empowers the species.
So the species is now making a decision about its entire future.
joe rogan
Where are you getting this from?
alex jones
That's what it is.
joe rogan
But where are you getting it from?
alex jones
I know.
From looking at all the data, researching it, studying it, watching the enemy.
That's the big decision that humanity has now got before us.
joe rogan
So if you were directing someone to investigate this on their own, how would they do that?
alex jones
Here's the problem.
You get someplace, finally, in deep research...
Where it's what every culture already said, what everybody already knew, what they're telling you in movies like Prometheus, what the elite admit the New York Times they believe in is this, you know, seeded by off-world systems.
joe rogan
Panspermia.
alex jones
Yes.
Everything they're doing points towards this, and then you read their own writings.
They believe we're this ugly, fallen, ugly species.
We're only to be killed.
They're the rich billionaires who are better than us, and they're going to merge with machines and become gods and go to the next level.
joe rogan
But don't you think that most people who extract...
Discapitate from where we stand today with our cell phones and our Apple watches and our integration with the computer and the internet constantly.
Don't you think that most people see that there's going to be some sort of symbiotic connection?
It's a very easy thing to make.
alex jones
They were saying it before.
joe rogan
I understand, but a lot of people were saying it before.
alex jones
Well, here's the problem.
Who engineered what we were given?
What is the point of the back doors of the Trojan horses?
joe rogan
Who engineered what?
alex jones
Here's what I'm telling you.
The elite.
The elite literally believe, interdimensionally, they were given this information and then built it.
And here's the thing.
They built it.
And Google admits...
Even in data dumps to Wired two years ago, that they're building an AI that will end human consciousness, free will, and take over, and the next species will rise out of that.
They've already decided our species...
joe rogan
But people have been talking...
Marshall McLuhan was talking about that 50 fucking years ago.
alex jones
Here's the deal.
They built it.
Amazon, two years ago, admits they can already, with 99% certainty...
But Alex, hold on a second.
joe rogan
Instead of dragging this out to some nefarious end, isn't it entirely possible that all these futurists, all these technological innovators, they all see the same end game?
That there's going to be some sort of a complete integration between people and artificial intelligence.
alex jones
Historically, everybody saw this coming.
joe rogan
Right.
All the futurists, all the people that studied the future.
alex jones
Before silicon chips were created.
joe rogan
Marshall McLuhan, I think it was in the 1970s, said that human beings are the sex organs of the machine world.
And he was saying, even back then, that human beings are eventually going to integrate or become something that's a part of machines.
alex jones
But what I'm telling you is there's a centralized system of what they're building that isn't naturally occurring.
joe rogan
Who is they?
alex jones
And we're artificially early.
The elites believe they're getting off-world, interdimensional...
joe rogan
Alright, but who's building these things that you're just describing right now?
alex jones
I mean, if you actually read what all the globalists say, you've obviously read the writings, you know this show, they are getting, not off-world, but interdimensional communications.
To then build this system that we see lowers our IQ, makes us live less, makes us unhappy.
joe rogan
Okay, but when you're making these big statements, they're getting interdimensional signals as telling them to create these systems that lower IQs.
That's something you've got to really prove.
Okay, let me prove it.
Let me prove it.
Okay, please.
If there's something you can show us...
alex jones
Okay, all the studies show screen time, all the computers, lowering IQs, lowering fertility, lowering our health.
joe rogan
Okay, but let me stop you right there.
Is that a case?
Is that a case of, is somebody holding a gun?
Let me tell you about me.
I'm addicted to this goddamn thing.
I love watching YouTube videos.
I love taking pictures of shit.
I love looking things up.
alex jones
It interfaces you with humanity.
It has a lot of beautiful things.
joe rogan
It does.
But I'll tell you, they're very addictive.
They're very addictive.
But hold on a second.
Let me stop you right there.
I don't necessarily think that's engineered to be addictive.
I think it's engineered to be really well, and work really well, and the fact that it works really well is very addictive.
Just like little kids look at a screen.
You put a fucking television in front of them when they're one year old and play some stupid commercial, and they're like, whoa.
But Joe, they picked a frequency to mesmerize you.
Hold on a second.
They made better and better technology that we're not designed to absorb.
Human beings have the exact same DNA that we did 10,000 years ago.
Back when there was nothing like television.
There was nothing like movies.
There was nothing like stereo headphones and project music.
alex jones
Hold on, please.
joe rogan
I let you go on your crazy rant.
Hold on, please.
You're interrupting my crazy rant.
I am telling you that this is a natural progression of this massive infatuation that we have with technology.
They don't have to engineer it.
It's natural.
It happens to you.
It happens to me.
It happens to anybody who's looking at cooler and cooler special effects in movies.
All that stuff is a natural thing.
alex jones
Steve Jobs wouldn't let his kids play with an iPad.
joe rogan
Well, then he's a cunt.
He's a cunt.
Let your kids play with a goddamn iPad.
alex jones
Joe, what I'm telling you is...
joe rogan
What the fuck's wrong with him?
alex jones
That was a great rant.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
joe rogan
No, you interrupted it ten times, you fuck.
unidentified
Oh, oh.
joe rogan
You gotta let a motherfucker rant.
alex jones
Okay, let you rant then.
Let me rant then.
joe rogan
I'm done now.
Shit.
alex jones
Yeah, but you're sitting there...
unidentified
Let's talk about...
alex jones
Let's talk about...
Let me get back to this thing.
joe rogan
We're not talking about the weather, Eddie.
I'll tell you that right now.
alex jones
Let me tell you right now.
We're done with that.
Fuck clouds.
I'm trying to break this down.
The whole thing is being set up to control.
joe rogan
Okay, what I'm telling you is when you're talking about the elites and interdimensional signals that they're receiving that are telling us to lower our IQ, you can't just say that.
eddie bravo
We need proof.
alex jones
Okay, let me give you proof.
joe rogan
That sounds so crazy, by the way.
alex jones
Can we hear you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, that sounds so crazy.
I want to know where the aliens are.
Are they on Earth?
eddie bravo
You know what?
It's really cool to say, hey, maybe we're in a computer simulation.
Everybody talks about that.
Everyone says, dude, the latest science says.
alex jones
You're not.
eddie bravo
People believe that easily.
Easily people go, yeah, we're in a computer simulation.
But then when you talk about interdimensional, like magical shit.
Like, wait a minute.
alex jones
Exactly.
Magic is a technology that hasn't been discovered yet.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
Listen, videos are fucking magic for sure.
Fuck yeah, your phone is magic.
If you and I could do this right now, and we could go, like, here, we'll do it right now.
This is what we're going to do.
We're going to go right now.
You want to talk some magic?
Because this really is fucking magic.
We're going to do...
Instagram Live.
eddie bravo
Okay, I'll do it on Instagram Live too.
joe rogan
Right now we're doing, not Instagram Live, we're doing one of those little Instagram stories.
Instantaneously.
alex jones
Infowars.com.
joe rogan
This is a whole new thing.
Young Jamie, am I right?
Fuck.
unidentified
This has never existed before.
joe rogan
Occasionally I did, but I let you go a little longer than you let me go.
alex jones
You just gotta be like, I'm bad.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo's on.
What's that?
We're having fun, buddy.
alex jones
I'm joking.
eddie bravo
I gotta piss.
joe rogan
Alex gotta piss again.
eddie bravo
Go piss.
alex jones
You're not a human.
joe rogan
All these lightweights.
I'm just drinking coffee.
I drank one of these Kill Cliff coffees.
I drank one order of butter coffee.
eddie bravo
Dude, I go live and Alex is gone.
joe rogan
I'm drinking this Air One.
eddie bravo
Dude, that's a conspiracy.
joe rogan
It's a conspiracy.
I'm drinking some juice.
I had two glasses of whiskey.
eddie bravo
That's bullshit.
joe rogan
And these bitches are peeing.
They keep peeing.
I don't understand it.
unidentified
Hold your pee, bunch of little girls.
joe rogan
That's something I take credit for.
eddie bravo
Dude, when you told me this stuff.
unidentified
That was his rant.
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
We're going to go back to that.
He's definitely high as fuck.
eddie bravo
Dude, when he told me this stuff about Buzz Aldrin's telling him some fucking crazy shit, I'm like, oh my god.
joe rogan
We got him too high.
We fucked up.
We fucked up.
I told you we were going to get him high, though.
eddie bravo
You can't believe Buzz Aldrin.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got to get him high.
I knew that was the key.
The key to make this podcast super special was...
Well, he asked for the whiskey himself.
So he started the party.
eddie bravo
Is that yours or his?
joe rogan
That's his.
Oh, that's ours.
No, that's ours.
That's Gentleman Jack.
eddie bravo
62,000 live listeners?
joe rogan
This is Gentleman Jack.
alex jones
Is this the record?
joe rogan
Yeah.
alex jones
It's a record?
joe rogan
A big-time record, yeah.
eddie bravo
62,000 is the record?
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Gentleman Jack is...
They sent us this, right?
It's good.
I mean, good, and it all tastes terrible.
unidentified
It all tastes like, you know, you're sucking on the devil's asshole.
It's all disgusting.
joe rogan
It's all disgusting.
I mean that's kind of half the fun of whiskey is that it's disgusting.
I kind of want it to taste good.
Powerful Alex Jones.
eddie bravo
Alex Jones live on Instagram.
alex jones
I love this.
joe rogan
A lot of people thought that this was a conspiracy because Eddie went live on Instagram live So there was a lot of talk online.
alex jones
He never existed!
joe rogan
There is no Alex Jones.
I wasn't trying to interrupt you earlier.
alex jones
The globalists are anti-human.
They think we're a bunch of dumb animals.
joe rogan
But where are the aliens?
alex jones
They're carrying out a science.
It's not aliens.
It's interdimensional.
eddie bravo
Does that have to do with the Luciferian Freemasonry type shit?
alex jones
I'd love to break that down.
eddie bravo
Skull and bones.
Break down.
Because I know that Albert Pike wrote the Freemason Bible.
He's talking about Luciferian shit.
So if you're a Freemason, your Bible...
alex jones
I feel the power of Lucifer seething in my hands.
He talks about...
unidentified
Okay, go for it.
He found the KKK. Go for it.
joe rogan
Go for it.
eddie bravo
Tell me about Albert Pike and the Freemasons.
alex jones
No, I want to give...
I mean, Joe...
Here's the thing, Joe.
You brought in rightful questions.
eddie bravo
This will prove your point.
alex jones
I will in a minute.
eddie bravo
It'll lead to your point because you're talking about Luciferianism.
alex jones
You brought up the whole point.
Let me just do this first, please.
You brought up the whole point about...
eddie bravo
No more weed, Alex.
No more.
unidentified
You're taking quotes from Buzz Aldrin when Andy Bravo tells you you went too deep.
joe rogan
You went too deep.
eddie bravo
You're taking quotes from Buzz Aldrin.
alex jones
Here's the difference.
I'm not trying to dominate the discussion.
I'm being nice.
joe rogan
You are being nice.
alex jones
Seriously.
I want to be nice.
joe rogan
You are nice.
You're a great guy.
Look, I love you, man.
I'm always happy to see you.
alex jones
What I'm telling you is that the globalists admit a lot of this.
It's in a lot of their white papers, a lot of their reports.
If you want me to actually give it to you, I will.
They say they believe they're going to become gods.
The rest of us are profane.
joe rogan
But all that shit about interdimensional beings, giving them all the data.
Where's all that coming from?
eddie bravo
Is there video?
alex jones
You know where the theory of the species...
And where all the Darwin stuff came from.
He had an hallucination and believed he was given all this stuff from, like, demons.
And I'm not saying that's real or not.
joe rogan
Are you confusing Darwin with Descartes?
alex jones
No, no, that's Darwin.
joe rogan
Didn't Descartes have, isn't he the one that came up with the idea of science?
Oh, it was science from a dream.
So Darwin's idea came from, Darwin was like really into channeling and stuff too, right?
alex jones
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
And the guy that he came up.
alex jones
So he always knows and he acts like he doesn't.
Okay, whatever.
joe rogan
So it was Tesla.
The guy that, yeah, a lot of those guys.
alex jones
Tesla.
They get the technology they believe from a freaking other dimension.
eddie bravo
I'm not even saying.
alex jones
You know what, people, you know all about this as much as I do or more, Joe, and you sit there and act like you don't know.
joe rogan
I forgot about it.
alex jones
Because you're afraid to give your audience all the information.
unidentified
Whoa.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but you know what?
You know what you're saying?
joe rogan
Are you saying I'm a shell?
eddie bravo
Hey, Joe.
alex jones
No!
eddie bravo
I'm saying you're smart, but you know damn well.
alex jones
But you know all the shit I'm bringing up, and then you say I'm making it up that's interdimensional.
joe rogan
Well, I just want to know where it's coming from.
Tesla definitely did say that.
eddie bravo
Tesla's the smartest guy ever.
alex jones
Show did Darwin.
Let me tell you.
joe rogan
Well, no.
alex jones
You probably already know it all.
joe rogan
Jamie's pulling it up.
alex jones
You probably already know it all.
joe rogan
But I know that Darwin's partner, the guy that he developed the theory of evolution, where they both had like a similar theory and they came together with it.
And he was like really into it.
To the point where he was into channeling and all sorts of weird stuff.
alex jones
I love how he knows this.
joe rogan
And discredited him.
I listened to him on radio lab.
alex jones
That's what they believe.
I'm not saying it's real.
CNN's going to have me up here all clipped together.
joe rogan
No, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying they discredited him and they just put all the emphasis on Darwin.
That's why you only hear about Darwin's work.
alex jones
Let me tell you where it all came from.
eddie bravo
Albert Pike.
Freemasonry.
alex jones
That's phase two.
joe rogan
What about the aliens?
alex jones
Let me tell you.
joe rogan
Give up the aliens.
Come on.
I know you know things.
eddie bravo
We've got to go back to Albert Pike.
alex jones
You guys don't even want to hear it, though.
joe rogan
I do.
unidentified
We do.
eddie bravo
I think you've got to start there.
joe rogan
We're just fucking around.
You don't get to do a show like this very often.
alex jones
No, it's great.
I love it.
I'm not mad.
Let me just tell you.
joe rogan
Please do.
alex jones
Let me just tell you.
If you look at this, that's what I'm telling you.
I don't believe it.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
I'm telling you, studying what the establishment believes, none of them are atheists.
They all believe they're getting interdimensional stuff.
So if you go back...
To Galton and Wedgwood and Huxley, you recognize all these modern names.
If you go back to Darwin, Darwin wrote this.
These letters are public.
You can read these online from the National Royal Archives in England and stuff.
They all believed, they were all part of a secret breeding program where the British thought they would have this superhuman if they bred these six families together to create all...
This is like mainline British history.
This is known in the whole eugenics history.
And then Galton...
Who's related to all these other guys.
In the 1850s, he starts having these ideas and he says there's a double helix, which is the snakes for science and medicine.
And he said, we're going to discover the keys and the building blocks to life.
And he said it's going to be called biometrics and we'll track everybody by reading their genetics.
This is what Hitler freaked out about and picked up.
And something like...
Eight of the 14 new sciences, like half or more than half the sciences that came since the 1860s were all from Galton and all from Darwin.
So the media and the liberals give you this one thing.
You know, Origin of the Species, like, I'm not saying it's wrong or right.
It's super heavy, like, galactic stuff.
They give this to you.
This is only one little boiled-down BS that we need to have.
You go to what these guys really wrote.
They were, like, intermarrying and involved in wicked seances and channeling and all this weird-ass crap.
And then they envisioned, okay, there's a double helix DNA discovered it.
Okay, biometrics.
Okay, world government.
Okay, computers.
Okay, atomic weapons.
Give me the equations.
And they were, like, all then, like, going to other...
We believe there's a program where you take different matter together in isotopes and it'll cause an explosion.
And it's like they were like given.
Either humans are super advanced and already have this knowledge from somewhere else in our genetics, and were here before, and were able to then manifest this through genetic memories and archetypes, or it was given off-world.
But humans have all this data compacted and compressed, ready, like programs.
joe rogan
What's that called?
Like the Akashic Records or something like that?
Is that what people believe?
alex jones
I mean, all of it is...
Akashic.
eddie bravo
Akashic.
alex jones
Epic Genetics.
Here's the deal.
joe rogan
Epic Genetics.
alex jones
They'll take chickens.
With eggs.
And do 10 generations in major universities that have never seen a hawk.
And they put them in these 20-foot ceilings, and they'll have a triangle fly over and a square fly over, and the little baby chickens never care.
Generation after generation go on for 15 years.
They fly one hawk over, and they all squawk, yelling, screaming, and run into their nest.
Now, they never saw a hawk.
They never saw it kill a chicken.
joe rogan
For generation after generation.
alex jones
It was compressed data knowledge of the hawk that is passed on genetically.
joe rogan
Yeah, they say that's why children are always afraid of monsters.
alex jones
It used to be tigers and bears.
joe rogan
Yeah, it used to be cats.
eddie bravo
My son just wants to be chased so much.
He wants to practice getting away from a predator.
He loves that the most.
He wants to get away.
You can't catch me.
alex jones
There's a man if you want to be ready to fight one.
joe rogan
There's some predators you can't fight.
If you can get the fuck away from that tiger at the zoo in China, I recommend you do that.
unidentified
My son's good at getting away from stuff.
joe rogan
Not even, man.
unidentified
I love what you're saying, Alex.
alex jones
You lost me for a second.
eddie bravo
I'll admit that.
I was like, oh, shit.
We shouldn't have let him smoke weed.
But then now you're bringing me back.
joe rogan
I think you brought it back down.
unidentified
You're bringing me back.
joe rogan
You came back.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you came back strong.
Keep it going.
joe rogan
You're in a good place right now.
eddie bravo
Keep it going.
You're talking about...
Now you're getting into Albert Pike.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Well, he's the founder of the KKK, top Confederate general, head of the Illuminati worldwide at that time.
joe rogan
So let's establish something that's like, maybe people that are listening to this might go, what in the fuck are these guys rambling about?
alex jones
Well, I'm exposing the KKK, so let's be part of it.
joe rogan
Let's establish this.
Throughout history...
From the beginning of organized human beings...
alex jones
There's been secret knowledge folks don't want to pass on to the general public.
joe rogan
There's also been people conspiring to control whatever...
eddie bravo
Secret societies.
joe rogan
And people conspiring to control whatever aspect of it, whether it's political, whether it's the military, like, whatever it is.
There's always been that.
It's always happened.
There's been military coups all throughout history.
There's been wars all throughout history.
alex jones
And the United States just had a peaceful one, bro.
joe rogan
How so?
alex jones
I mean, dude, the intelligence community leaked all the data to bring down the globalists.
joe rogan
The intelligence community leaked all what data?
alex jones
They leaked all the WikiLeaks.
He's over here saying, Alex, why are you suddenly pro-government?
joe rogan
So you're saying that the Russians didn't do it?
alex jones
No.
joe rogan
Really?
How do you know this?
eddie bravo
Because the mainstream media said so.
joe rogan
But hold on, hold on.
alex jones
I mean, Joe, give me a break, dude.
joe rogan
No, I just want to know how you know.
alex jones
Have you ever known me for like 16 to 17 years?
joe rogan
Yes.
alex jones
Have you ever known me to say I have a source and I'm making it up, be honest?
joe rogan
No.
No.
alex jones
No, I mean, I've got sources as high as it goes.
joe rogan
So you can't tell us how you know.
alex jones
Let's just say, I got data today from a head of state.
joe rogan
And what did he say?
alex jones
I can't tell you.
joe rogan
Okay, don't tell me.
alex jones
The point is...
joe rogan
I'm so glad you didn't tell me.
alex jones
Yeah, but the point is, we screwed it up and released it early, so it caused a problem.
eddie bravo
Explain the whole Russian diversion.
alex jones
We didn't mean it on purpose, so someone's always mad at us.
eddie bravo
Bust out with that.
The hard Russian thing.
Because there's intelligent people, like my students, are like, you don't believe the Russians hacked the election?
joe rogan
So where did it come from?
Smart people believe that shit.
Why are you saying that the intelligence agency leaked all this and not Russia?
alex jones
Because I was told before it was all leaked by the former director of psychological operations at the CIA it was going to come out.
joe rogan
He told you that it was going to be leaked?
alex jones
Yeah, and before I was never in bed with the CIA. I've interviewed people from the CIA, NSA, defense intelligence, you name it, over the years.
I mean, it's all over the news that General Flynn, former head of defense intelligence, tweets all my articles.
I'm not telling you it's some secret.
I mean, the enemy knows.
The point is that I'm seen as an honest, good person and understand what's going on.
I'm out for humanity.
I don't want personal power.
I want to help people.
joe rogan
But isn't it entirely possible?
I mean, how does information like that get out?
alex jones
Well, there's an open rebellion against the criminals that hijacked our government.
And so we overthrew the globalists and Obama, and we're taking them over in France, in Italy, in Spain, in Greece, in the UK. The only place we're not successful so far is Canada.
We just took Australia.
And by I took Australia with the idea of free, open society.
eddie bravo
What does that mean?
alex jones
See, most people sit there and brag about stuff.
I'm telling you what's really going on.
joe rogan
What does it mean by we took Australia?
alex jones
I mean...
Globalists are losing countries every month right now to the Liberty Movement.
These are free market people that want you and your family to be successful and aren't out to hurt you and make you poor like the globalists.
There's good people, and they used the intelligence agencies to defeat the globalists, and there's been a major counteroffensive, and the globalists made one wrong move.
It happened five years ago.
It was a system-wide leak four years ago.
CIA whistleblowers, all of them on the show, colonels and special operations, you name it, who were authorized by high-level senators to come on my show.
They ran a countercoup.
There was a deal made with radical Islam to actually take over Europe and then the United States.
And by that, make us not convert, but submit to Islam, not criticize it, or they'd blow stuff up.
They thought they'd bring in some new masculine arm that would make us submit.
And it got so bad that even our own intelligence agencies that had been corrupted said, well, this is too far.
We're not doing it.
And so America, about four years ago, started coming back up for air, and now we're just overthrowing their whole system.
There's a huge war going on.
It's beautiful.
We are kicking their ass on every front.
eddie bravo
Now, like I said at the top, it's the dawn of a new age.
You were against George W. Bush, Clinton, Obama, all that.
You were not a Republican or a Democrat.
You were against government, but now it's a new day.
Now the conspiracy theorists, like yourself, you're the king of them, were pro-government, and the sheep, they're like out there protesting, crying.
Explain that.
alex jones
Well, I mean, look, it's not that Trump's perfect.
He really genuinely is like going into all these corporate incentives and one-sided deals.
There's no meetings now.
There's no lobbyists.
He banned them all for a lifetime.
He literally goes in with actuaries and computer programs and goes with super NSA technology that he even had before he was in.
And he says, because the generals came to him years ago, they said we could deliver all this to everybody.
We don't want to make America poor.
We don't want to have big wars.
We want to just have prosperity, sir.
We've got next to free energy, all these technologies, cures for cancer.
We're ready to release it.
That's why he talked about the State of the Union or his first inaugural speech.
And so it will be the second.
And he just really cares about humanity.
And he's not a Satanist.
He doesn't like raping kids.
He likes super hot Eastern European women.
And he just, you know, who wants that?
I mean, who wants a little kid when you can have that?
I mean, he's just, he's somebody not out to get humanity.
And he's got the intelligence agency.
He's totally backing him to the hill.
And it's just a super epic moment to be alive.
eddie bravo
What's going on so far with Trump?
joe rogan
Hold on one second.
What do you think?
You said earlier in the podcast that you don't think he's perfect, right?
What do you think he could do different that would make people accept him?
alex jones
Well, I said last week he should disavow torture.
He did it the next day.
Just magically, I guess.
joe rogan
Are you saying that you came up with the idea and he listened to it?
eddie bravo
Say that again.
I missed it.
What did you say?
joe rogan
Disavow torture.
alex jones
There's a zeitgeist, and I'm in the zeitgeist.
So in that zeitgeist, you kind of see everything.
joe rogan
Right.
alex jones
Even though you're just a normal person.
You can, like, look into any avenue, any window.
joe rogan
But your take on it is that it's good to have him in despite whatever flaws people may perceive he has.
alex jones
He has good will.
He wants prosperity.
joe rogan
And he's not a part of the system that he replaced.
alex jones
That's why they're totally against him.
And he likes full-grown women.
joe rogan
Okay, I believe that.
You don't have to say that anymore.
alex jones
No, but I'm just telling you.
joe rogan
I understand you.
alex jones
I believe you.
That's a serious shit right there.
Most people like to grab a kid out of your backyard and torture him for a couple weeks.
Yeah.
eddie bravo
They kidnap...
They torture, they rape, and sometimes kill.
alex jones
Come on, that's what's going on.
And the emails are like, well, these are kind of exhausted.
We're about to have to retire them.
So you need to get in there.
Some of these are damaged.
Look him up.
You didn't believe me.
joe rogan
I know.
I believed you.
Look, I don't know what that is.
Are we getting these guys in there?
alex jones
And a big old guy comes in and just breaks their jaw and goes...
joe rogan
And Trump's going after him?
eddie bravo
Is that what's going on?
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
When he's done, if he's successful, it's an entire route.
Like, a lot of people aren't just getting indicted right now.
They're getting...
They're getting taken care of right now.
eddie bravo
What about the Vatican?
joe rogan
How does that work?
alex jones
Trump's the devil!
Stop Trump!
He's the devil!
Stop him!
Anything we've got, stop him!
joe rogan
That's what the Vatican said?
alex jones
Yeah, the Vatican.
Pedophile Central is shitting their pants over Trump.
joe rogan
The Vatican is so bizarre.
eddie bravo
Yeah, can you imagine Trump going after the Vatican?
joe rogan
It's a country.
That's what's crazy about it.
eddie bravo
Is he?
brendan schaub
Do you think he is?
eddie bravo
Hey, Alex, I always thought, how weird is it that everybody in South Park is making a goddamn episode about...
Them being pedophiles.
And again, nobody's investigating what's going on here.
So to me, then you watch Conspiracy of Silence, that documentary that never got released about the whole network.
Then you begin to realize, oh shit, the reason, my opinion is the reason no one's getting arrested at the Vatican, at a high rate anyways, is because everybody at the top is involved.
alex jones
That's it.
Let me give you the good news.
I'm not here to kiss the ass the establishment.
A lot of patriots in the government, who I've always criticized, ended up being the people that heard me bitching and you bitching.
Do something.
They've done something.
And they're really trying to reverse this whole thing right now.
And there is a full-out war inside the government of guys that like to eat steaks, drink beer, and have women versus a bunch of pot-bellied pedophiles.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
What's really fucked up is that the people that before the Sandusky thing came out, the people around it probably heard rumors.
It was probably someone that talked, someone that said something, but nobody really wanted to believe it.
And when it did happen...
eddie bravo
Well, Conspiracy of Silence is a documentary you can watch on YouTube that never got released.
They're talking about the base, the headquarters of the pedophile network that's an international network is in Omaha, Nebraska at Boys Town.
They like taking orphans.
Orphans, there's different levels.
There's guys, they don't want any trouble, they just want orphans.
And then there's the psychos that want to go kidnap them.
There's like the hardcore people.
And you know what?
Top officials in every aspect of government and celebrity.
It's not everybody, but it's enough.
So there's enough people involved that nobody's investigating anybody because they're all involved.
They all better keep their mouth shut.
joe rogan
Well, it's just so crazy that something gets to the level that the Catholic Church got to with it.
eddie bravo
Yeah, no one's going to want to get into it.
alex jones
You want to hear about a conversation with myself and Donald Trump?
eddie bravo
Yes.
joe rogan
Sure.
Are you allowed to do this?
Wait a minute, before you do it.
eddie bravo
Should you do this?
I don't want to get in trouble.
joe rogan
He's drunk and high.
alex jones
No, I'm not.
No marijuana.
joe rogan
That was fair.
alex jones
I had a drink of this.
I understand.
That's American.
eddie bravo
Let's go.
alex jones
No, Trump basically said, we're going to clean it up, Alex.
We know all about it, Alex.
We're going to stop him.
And we're going to do it.
joe rogan
But he also said Obama's from Kenya.
alex jones
Well, that's a huge intelligence hop.
You want to write that down?
You want to know about Reagan?
Let's think about birth certificate.
I now can tell you the full scoop on that.
joe rogan
Right.
What do you think happened there?
alex jones
I know exactly what happened.
joe rogan
They told him that Obama was from Kenya?
They fucked with him?
alex jones
You want to hear it right now?
joe rogan
Yes.
alex jones
Okay, I was going to tell a Trump story, but okay, I'll do that.
joe rogan
We'll go back to the Trump story.
eddie bravo
Give me a write down Trump story.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, we're good, we're good.
Thank you, Eddie.
eddie bravo
Trump story.
joe rogan
Powerful Eddie Bravo.
eddie bravo
Jamie, you better add extra juice to that time signature.
alex jones
Here, one more for Joe.
joe rogan
Hold on.
alex jones
Apple juice.
Apple juice.
eddie bravo
Oh, maybe not, Alex.
Come on.
alex jones
Each secret, one more apple juice.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ.
If you pour another 20 for me, I'm going to send you to another dimension.
alex jones
How many years?
joe rogan
Seven years.
So what were you just about to say?
alex jones
What was the issue?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Do you remember what the question was, Jamie?
eddie bravo
What Donald Trump told you.
alex jones
No, that wasn't it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know you were about to say what Donald Trump told you, but what was it about?
alex jones
You wanted to know about something else.
joe rogan
What the fuck was it about?
eddie bravo
It was pedophilia, but let's leave...
joe rogan
But hold on a second.
unidentified
Let's move on.
joe rogan
You're fucking with my memory.
What was it?
You were just good about...
alex jones
I'm not the only one.
I used to have a good memory.
joe rogan
Jamie.
alex jones
I don't remember.
joe rogan
Oh, we're too high.
eddie bravo
Let's go to the Trump story.
alex jones
I'm not high.
I didn't do anything.
joe rogan
Trump.
eddie bravo
Trump.
joe rogan
Jamie's going to figure it out.
Jamie's going to figure it out.
What is it?
unidentified
Someone will tell me in just a second.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Someone's going to tell him on Twitter and we'll figure this out.
Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
And then I'll write that down.
joe rogan
There's a problem with being...
Too high-end talking over each other.
He's about to tell us some really important shit.
alex jones
You go for five minutes.
eddie bravo
Trump calls you how many times a week on average?
alex jones
You need to go for a long time.
Ten hours, Joe.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
alex jones
This should be your longest podcast.
joe rogan
We'll definitely peter out before then.
alex jones
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
No, we'll go forever, dude.
joe rogan
No one knows what the fuck we were just talking about?
unidentified
We got like a minute gap.
alex jones
How did we all forget?
eddie bravo
How did we all forget?
alex jones
Really good question.
joe rogan
Because we're blasted.
eddie bravo
Dude, you better call your dispensary.
Get some answers.
joe rogan
So you were talking about the Vatican.
We were talking about pedophiles in the Catholic Church.
Birth certificate.
Oh, the Kenyan thing.
alex jones
That's right.
joe rogan
The powerful Twitter.
So tell me what happened.
alex jones
This is a place where I'm not ashamed of this because I got conned.
When I've been conned, which happens every once in a while, I admit it later.
We learn from it.
eddie bravo
Buzz Aldrin.
joe rogan
Okay, what happened?
alex jones
Dude, Buzz Aldrin.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Don't interrupt him, Eddie.
Come on.
alex jones
I only told you a funny Buzz Aldrin.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Kenya.
eddie bravo
Kenya.
alex jones
Okay, Kenya.
Okay, and everything I'm going to say, your listeners can write this down.
They can search engine everything I'm going to say and learn to see this for themselves.
Because the journey with Infowars is not that I'm that smart.
I'm just like you.
I'm having this journey, and I'm going to show you.
So this is what happens.
Obama's running for office, and Hillary's people, because I follow the news every day, Hillary's campaign, this letter came out, Puts out that he's born in Kenya.
And I'm like, ah, screw her.
I was quietly, and I'm really ashamed of this, but I told listeners this, I'll just say it, I was an early on Obama supporter in that I wanted to try to unify people.
I didn't like John McCain.
So I said, yeah, he's bad, the Democrats are bad, but I hated what had happened so much.
eddie bravo
We were fooled by Obama, too.
alex jones
Well, I was hoping.
joe rogan
Let's let him talk.
alex jones
I mean, I wasn't an Obama supporter, I just didn't attack him.
joe rogan
You liked it better than the alternative.
alex jones
Yeah, I didn't push him for office, I was just like hoping that all his BS was real.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
So, and then I started hearing these leaks, and it was from Hillary.
You can Google this.
Hillary first progenerated the whole deal.
So I'm sitting there hearing that he's born in Kenya.
So I think, I don't care.
That's a bunch of BS. And then the articles start coming out as the right-wing picks it up who does the research.
And it's his wife in like 2000. And six and seven in speeches going, my husband, born in Kenya, knows about the immigrant's experience.
It's video.
You can pull up Michelle Obama.
Oh, yeah, pull it up.
And then, and then...
Harvard Law Review, which he headed up for at least three years.
He was the editor.
And he says, I was born in Kenya.
A little bit he blurred by his picture.
unidentified
Really?
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
Says he's born...
But he wasn't born in Kenya.
Wait till I get to this.
joe rogan
Oh, so that was some...
alex jones
It's just like Pizza Game.
joe rogan
Oh.
What?
alex jones
I finally learned how...
eddie bravo
Double cross.
alex jones
Well, it's not in pedophilia.
I mean...
joe rogan
Hold on.
Let's hear her say it.
alex jones
Here you go.
unidentified
HIV testing, which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know, a lot of that is due to homophobia.
Barack has led by example.
When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test for the very point of showing folks in Kenya that...
joe rogan
Okay, but that doesn't mean that he was born in Kenya.
alex jones
There's another clip.
He just found that fast, but there's another where she said, and there's the Harvard Law Review, which he edited, where he says, I was born in Kenya.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Well, right there, what she's saying is his homeland.
Like, if you're from Ireland, like, I know these were born in America.
They want to go back to Italy or Ireland.
Yeah, it's always the homeland.
They call it the homeland.
alex jones
But listen, let's just...
Going on to...
What were we covering?
joe rogan
Kenya.
The birth certificate.
alex jones
Kenya.
So, yeah, Trump got involved in all that.
And the whole birth certificate...
Go ahead.
joe rogan
No, no.
So, how did it...
Did someone, like, leak that information to him to try to make him look foolish because he chased after it?
alex jones
Yes.
So...
Well, we're just researching.
It's not anybody trying to make anybody foolish.
joe rogan
So do you think they just maybe made an incorrect judgment?
alex jones
Well, we found out all about it.
This is stunning information.
So, people want to say he's illegitimate.
They then look at him in the Harvard Law Review saying he's born in Kenya.
They look at clips.
They look at the fact that he won't release his birth certificate.
He had a name named Barry Satoro in Indonesia.
He had all these weird cutout names.
He had like five aliases.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Why is that?
Then he wrote, look it up.
Because he's a baller.
He wrote Dreams of My Real Father.
joe rogan
Right.
alex jones
Or Dreams of My Father.
Dreams of My Real Father is the documentary.
And in it he talks about Frank Marshall Davis, the communist, famous pornographer that he spent summers with.
He looked side by side, it's the same guy.
So they were worried that it was going to be Frank Marshall Davis.
But it had actually been his mom in like a scam making money off, she was CIA, bringing back people to the U.S. and sham marriages to have them immigrate.
It was basically a cover-up of the fact that his real father was Frank Marshall Davis, the communist.
And so that's who Obama's real dad was.
And Dreams My Real Father breaks it all down.
It's online.
It's pretty powerful info.
joe rogan
So what does that mean?
alex jones
It just is a perfect example of you're not born in Kenya.
You're really born in Hawaii on the main city-based island.
They're in Honolulu to Frank Marshall Davis.
joe rogan
Right.
alex jones
And your grandfather's CIA and your mother's CIA. That's all been declassified.
You're this cutout person.
joe rogan
His mom was a CIA? Oh, yeah.
What did she do for the CIA? She was a sex operative.
alex jones
Yeah.
And she posed for news photos in kind of Betty Page style with sex operatives.
In photos at Frank Marshall Davis' house.
joe rogan
And you know this because you've seen these?
alex jones
I've interviewed the people involved.
I've read Dreams of My Father where he admits, I stayed at Frank Marshall Davis' house.
He was like my dad.
My grandfather had a special unspoken relationship with him.
These are quotes.
Look up Obama, Frank Marshall Davis.
Or Obama dreams of my real father.
eddie bravo
So what do you think about the conspiracy theory that Obama was bred by the CIA the whole way through?
That's true.
alex jones
It's not a theory.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
alex jones
When you say CIA, that just means like a marketing project of whoever was in power at the time.
Four or eight years, whoever's in charge of that, whoever shows interest, can go in and then just basically be involved in controlling the levers of the social engineering of the society.
unidentified
Hmm.
eddie bravo
So what does that have to do with Obama growing up?
Were those rumors that he was in a CIA agent in Pakistan while he was supposed to be in Columbia?
alex jones
Yeah, he probably spent six months.
Yeah, there's the supposed father, Barack, versus Barack II, versus Frank Marshall Davis.
joe rogan
Huh.
I think he looks more like the other Barack.
alex jones
Okay.
Well, look up Frank Marshall Davis' pornography.
joe rogan
I will do no such thing.
alex jones
And Obama's mother clearly in the photos.
And his book, Dreams of My Father, admitting that he stayed with Frank Marshall Davis.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
But listen, that's not the issue.
joe rogan
So what I asked you, though, to get back to where we started from, was why did Trump chase after that whole he was born in Kenya shit for so long?
alex jones
Because he knew it was super hot with the public, and he wanted to know...
The answer to it as well, and didn't like the things Obama was doing.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
It was a weird thing, right?
Because if you were a guy who was a white guy, and we wanted to prove that you were born in Austria, but you had some birth certificate that said you were born in the United States, you spoke perfect English, but you had a square jaw, and you looked like you were from the frozen north.
Like, this motherfucker is, he's from Austria, dude.
I'm telling you, he's from fucking Austria.
And then someone, like, made a big deal out of it and gave you, like, a fake birth certificate and people wouldn't, you'd never hear racism.
Isn't that interesting?
Like, you would hear that, yeah, this guy might really have been born in another country.
alex jones
No, there might have been something that the first black president's an outsider.
joe rogan
Yeah, instantaneously it gets connected to racism.
There's an assumed racism with almost anything that...
alex jones
Well, listen, I don't care what color Barack Obama is.
joe rogan
Any accusations.
alex jones
Like, I love Jimi Hendrix's music.
I don't care what color he is.
Long Watchtower's the best ever.
joe rogan
It's a pretty goddamn good song.
alex jones
So, yeah, all of that.
All I'm telling you is, you researched Frank Marshall Davis and Obama.
I believe you.
I can't believe how conclusive it is.
My mom and dad heard me talking about it like five years ago.
They thought, that's crazy.
Let us see the film about it.
They saw it.
They were blown away.
Listen, let me give you the big picture.
joe rogan
Please.
alex jones
The elite admit that they are studying humanity like they're a breakaway civilization.
They believe they're taking the best ideas of humanity and building a breakaway civilization of technocracy so they can transcend us.
And I want the public to know the decision has been made to dumb you down, balkanize you, turn you against yourselves, have regional wars, play people off against each other.
And then basically release bioweapons that wipe out most of the population while the elite transcend to the next level.
joe rogan
Can I pause this right here?
Who are the elite?
Like when you say the elite, who are these people?
And how do they get together?
Are they the Rothschilds?
Hold on a second.
How do they all agree?
Who votes?
How do they decide?
There's a bunch of powerful, type A, super billionaire characters who like running shit.
So how do they get together and all agree on the same thing?
alex jones
Well, they decide on agendas that will empower their individual agendas, and they're pretty much let into those power structures early on.
joe rogan
So how do they meet?
alex jones
Because they are...
eddie bravo
Bilderberg Group.
joe rogan
Is that the Bilderberg Group?
alex jones
Club of Rome, Bilderberg Group.
joe rogan
What's the Club of Rome?
alex jones
Davos.
Club of Rome is a population reduction group.
I mean, if you can go to Infowars.com right now, there's an article and a video I cut about Oprah Winfrey, I'm not saying she's a bad person, where she's part of a secret eugenics group.
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
Stop right there.
He said, I'm not saying she's a bad person, but she's part of a secret eugenics group.
eddie bravo
That doesn't mean it's bad.
joe rogan
I'm a really good person.
I like killing weak people.
I'm just trying to thin the hurt.
I'm a really good person, though.
alex jones
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
alex jones
Absolutely.
So you can go there.
It's the truth about Oprah Winfrey.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
And it just deals with, it's in the news saying, Oprah Winfrey in secret meetings.
unidentified
Look at your face.
joe rogan
You look so serious.
alex jones
You look like I'm on a toilet.
joe rogan
You think she's in secret meetings with the Bilderberg group or something like that?
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
She admits that.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
They admit on the news to reduce population.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
Only because we leaked it first.
Want to play it?
Go ahead.
joe rogan
Let's take a six-minute break.
alex jones
Let's play it.
joe rogan
No, when someone like her...
alex jones
JohnRugExperience.com.
joe rogan
Hold, please.
When someone like her says something about reducing the amount of illegitimate babies born or the amount of babies that are born because there's no birth control, a lot of times those kind of statements get construed into population control.
alex jones
She's in the secret meetings.
joe rogan
But then people start saying she's into population control and that means she wants to kill people.
alex jones
Secret meetings, and she's pushing it, and she's tax exempt.
joe rogan
I'm not in those secret meetings.
Are you in those secret meetings?
alex jones
Let me tell you.
joe rogan
Do you go to those secret meetings?
alex jones
We linked it.
joe rogan
Have you ever been in one of those secret meetings?
alex jones
I did sneak into one.
joe rogan
Do you hear what they said?
alex jones
Yes.
joe rogan
Did they say they want to kill half the people?
alex jones
No.
joe rogan
What'd they say that was really like...
alex jones
I just snuck into Bohemian Grove, it wasn't.
joe rogan
I remember that.
Dude, that was some real shit.
eddie bravo
That's epic fucking Jim Brown type shit.
joe rogan
I am, dude.
I mean, that is like, if you want to go back to like conspiracy theory fuel, like people that get excited about something, when you find out that there really are a bunch of global elites that get on this ranch, and they got a fucking giant stone owl, and they burn a bundle of wood in effigy, and they all wear fucking masks and shit, and then you actually have video footage of it.
And this weird sort of a ceremony they're doing.
alex jones
And whether it's satanic or not, they're pretending.
joe rogan
Whatever the fuck it is, it's crazy.
alex jones
They're pretending it is.
joe rogan
Whatever it is, it's crazy.
alex jones
Sure, and I was there.
joe rogan
And they hide.
alex jones
That's exactly what it is.
eddie bravo
Yeah, go into that.
joe rogan
How did you sneak into the Bohemian Grove?
That was amazing.
alex jones
Well, people always said it was a setup they let me in.
It wasn't quite like that, but we had an insider wanted to get me in to actually see it.
And most people aren't bad that go to it.
But the point is, it's kind of a gateway into all of this.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
So this is you at Bohemian Grove, and you're on the other side of what looks like a little pond or something?
Is that what it is?
alex jones
Yeah, feel free to play.
It goes, Beyond Old Care, may fire make merriment with your dust.
Beyond Old Care!
joe rogan
It was so strange.
It was so bizarre.
Listening to that guy and the speaker blaring out across that lake.
It was Walter Cronkite.
Let's play some of this.
alex jones
No, it was Walter Cronkite.
unidentified
It sounds like a play for high school.
alex jones
It is.
It's all play.
But religion started that way.
As entertainment.
joe rogan
So what do you think this is?
Just some really ancient ritual that they're redoing?
alex jones
Yeah, I thought it was no big deal until I was in the crowd of old men.
They were just lavishing.
They were like...
joe rogan
They loved it, huh?
alex jones
Basically ejaculating in their pants without touching their peepees.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
Are you projecting?
alex jones
No, no.
They were like in ecstasy.
joe rogan
What is it about people that love those secret societies?
Like, you remember that JFK speech about secret societies?
alex jones
We will not tolerate them.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a fucking beautiful speech, man.
Pull it up, Jamie.
Pull up JFK's speech about secret societies.
alex jones
Normal people don't want power over others.
They don't crave some secret essence.
They're looking for that secret place of the most high.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, absolutely.
But that's just like you were talking about.
Pedophiles, just like any other deviant, fucked up form of human thinking.
alex jones
I just want to go eat a big pile of steaks and drink some beer.
joe rogan
I like how you say.
Let's crank this up.
john f kennedy
Ladies and gentlemen, The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society.
And we are, as a people, inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.
Even today, There is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.
Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.
And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it's in my control.
And no official of my administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence on infiltration instead of invasion on subversion instead of elections on intimidation instead of free choice on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day it is a system which has conscripted He's
alex jones
He's talking about communist.
john f kennedy
...and political operations.
Its preparations are concealed, not published.
Its mistakes are buried, not headlined.
Its dissenters are silenced, not praised.
No expenditure is questioned.
No rumor is printed.
No secret is revealed.
No president should fear public scrutiny of his program, for from that scrutiny comes understanding, and from that understanding comes support or opposition, and both are necessary.
I am not asking your newspapers to support an administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people.
unidentified
For I have complete confidence.
joe rogan
We're cool.
We killed it then.
That's such a crazy speech because it's him talking about the structures that were already in place and about the dangers of withholding information from people and him being forthright as a president in a way that we've never heard before or since.
Like, he's literally talking...
alex jones
Until Trump.
Trump's being like that now.
eddie bravo
What did Trump tell you?
alex jones
Well, let's just be clear.
He's talking about our own military-industrial complex that Eisenhower just warned about, his outgoing predecessor.
He's talking about the Soviets there at the same time.
He was a really smart cookie.
joe rogan
The Eisenhower warning is one of the creepiest things in human history.
alex jones
Oh, yeah, about the military-industrial complex.
eddie bravo
Yeah, because JFK, that sounded like he was talking about communism.
joe rogan
Yeah, pull up Eisenhower warns of the military-industrial complex.
alex jones
A farewell address.
joe rogan
He did it, but there's a clip that just has that segment of it.
alex jones
You know what he said before?
joe rogan
Yeah, there was a lot.
alex jones
He says there is a scientific technocratic elite that is in control of all information and about to shut it down to the public.
And then they will control the military.
So beware of the military.
He wasn't saying the military was bad.
joe rogan
Right.
alex jones
He said these technocrats, the eugenicists, were about to get control of it.
The scientific people I'll tell you about.
joe rogan
See if you can find where it goes, Jamie.
alex jones
This is the address right here.
dwight d eisenhower
We now stand 10 years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
Joe's right.
Type in Eisenhower military industrial complex speech, yeah.
joe rogan
He's going to say it in here somewhere, but it's a three-minute speech.
Just see if you can cue it up, Jamie.
eddie bravo
Alex, it seems like Trump...
You know, everybody, a lot of smart people in different points of their life, they begin to realize how many lies they've been told.
They begin to wake up.
They're not totally woke up, but they begin to wake up.
And then they find out about 9-11, but they don't believe all this other shit.
And then they find out about this, but they don't believe in all that other shit.
And then they find out about that.
And then at the very high levels, like the dudes, they're like, yeah, all this shit is true.
If you could follow the money, it's probably true.
You might be wrong one or two or three times.
Generally, we're dealing with a totally crooked situation.
What are they doing?
They're not stealing money from corporations.
You steal money from a corporation, they're going to come after you and kill you.
What they're doing is it's the mastery of stealing tax money.
That's what this is all about.
Stealing tax money.
Because nobody's going to go after...
You steal tax money.
You get all these programs and these bills passed.
joe rogan
Let's play this.
Go ahead, Jamie.
eddie bravo
These military contracts, the taxpayers are paying for all this.
dwight d eisenhower
...sources and livelihood are all involved.
So is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.
The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
How could they let that out?
Like, it was so tight.
Because you think about this.
Back in the early days of radio and the early days of moving pictures, only the elite...
joe rogan
Well, I'll tell you.
alex jones
I know folks that were there.
unidentified
Let me finish.
eddie bravo
Only the elite...
Had access to this technology, moving pictures, radio, right from the get-go, right from day one.
alex jones
They were programming it the way they wanted.
eddie bravo
Yeah, right from day one.
It wasn't like your average guy was trying to help humanity.
The guys who had this technology were like, damn!
They believe whatever the fuck we say.
Back in the day, you'd listen to the radio, those news reports, or when the movie pictures were invented.
joe rogan
What about Read for Madness?
eddie bravo
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Right from the get-go.
TV, movies, radio.
All of it was propaganda.
alex jones
Well, let me tell you what happened.
eddie bravo
It never left.
joe rogan
Alex Jones, there's aliens involved in this story, please.
eddie bravo
No, talk about propaganda in movies.
alex jones
Eisenhower had LL Eminent, sir, come to him.
joe rogan
Who?
alex jones
That was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs District.
joe rogan
L.L. Limnan, sir?
Is that his name?
alex jones
No, just Google Operation Northwest.
joe rogan
Oh, I know about that.
alex jones
Sure.
So they came to him and they said, we're going to launch terror attacks in America and start a war with the Soviets.
He's like, well, I know they're evil, but we're not going to do that.
So he fired them.
Then JFK comes in.
The same guy's trying to make him do it.
He refuses, so they kill him.
joe rogan
Well, they wanted to have drone jetliners and blow them up and blame it on the Cubans.
alex jones
9-11.
joe rogan
They wanted to arm Cuban friendlies and attack Guantanamo Bay.
They had a bunch of really crazy shit planned.
When you realize what Operation Northwoods was, and you realize that this was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, it scares the shit out of you.
unidentified
Alex, is this real?
joe rogan
We're all talking here.
We're all talking here.
Doesn't that scare the shit out of you?
alex jones
Yeah, that's what we suppose.
eddie bravo
Doesn't it blow your mind that there's still, today, it's 2017, doesn't it blow your mind that people still think that 9-11 happened the way it was?
joe rogan
Okay, we'll get to that.
Operation Northridge is 100% provable.
eddie bravo
Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
Let's get back to that.
alex jones
It's declassified.
joe rogan
2000. Well, when people realized that that was a real document.
alex jones
It was a U.S. government plan to start war with Russia.
joe rogan
And kill people.
alex jones
They'd blow up movie theaters, attack U.S. military bases.
joe rogan
Kill American civilians.
alex jones
Attack the Capitol.
joe rogan
Kill American military.
alex jones
Shoot people.
Hijack jets.
Crash them.
Have CIA get on board.
So a fake plane lands, or the real plane lands, a fake plane attacks.
It was 9-11.
joe rogan
It's just bananas that someone would actually sit down and write that out.
alex jones
And it was leaked by patriots six months before 9-11 trying to stop it.
joe rogan
Really?
alex jones
And that's not saying Islamic terror isn't real.
It's not saying Bush even did it.
Some super dark state group, which Congress now has the 28 pages, vindicating 9-11 truthers, that Saudi Arabia, with people that they had gotten to convert to Islam and paid off with their trillions, and they got trillions, had joined them in some larger plan to blame Iraq and other countries that were non-radical so Saudi Arabia could take them over.
eddie bravo
Who put together 9-11?
alex jones
Saudi Arabia.
The Muslims have Muslims more than anybody.
So they want to invade these other countries.
eddie bravo
How did it happen in the U.S.? I mean, the U.S. wasn't involved?
Of course, right?
alex jones
What are you saying?
eddie bravo
Who was involved?
Who were the key players in 9-11?
alex jones
It's totally compartmentalized.
So you run a drill of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon being attacked on that day.
So the planes are told, flying around, oh, this is just a drill.
joe rogan
So that was a drill that was supposed to be run that day.
alex jones
It all came out.
joe rogan
A drill that was about an attack on New York, right?
eddie bravo
There was a drill.
It seems like when they do false flags, it seems like, okay, we're going to do a false flag.
We need to set up a drill.
They need a drill going on at the same time.
alex jones
But let's be clear.
eddie bravo
It's obvious.
alex jones
99.9% of the government wasn't involved because of computers.
It was a test.
They can do stuff 100 times worse now.
No one will know because it's all remote activated.
The jets by then were all remote controlled.
Every jet for 25 years, the big new ones, has rope control.
It's all crazy, man.
eddie bravo
Jets now are unmanned?
alex jones
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Well, no, they're manned.
It's just they can go on autopilot.
eddie bravo
It's stupid to have a man on autopilot.
If you think about it, it's dumb.
alex jones
It's better than it's remote control.
joe rogan
That was the thing they said about the drone jetliners.
When they were going to blow up that jetliner and blame it on the Cubans, that wasn't going to be a jetliner filled with people.
It was going to be a drone.
So they had the capability in 1962 of doing that?
alex jones
How did Robert F. Kennedy or JFK's elder brother Who was Joe Kennedy Jr. die.
He was flying a fighter plane remote controlling two B-17s loaded with explosives as drones to crash into Germany.
unidentified
What?
They had drones in World War II. Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
They had drones in World War II. What were they powered by?
alex jones
It seems so caveman to have a guy in there.
How did Joe Kennedy Jr. die?
Secret mission over Germany.
eddie bravo
Joe Kennedy the father?
No, Joe Kennedy Jr. Oh, the crazy thing about the Kennedys is, you know, a lot of times you see criminals come from, like, a good family.
And then you see Robert Kennedy and John F. Kennedy, they come from gangsters.
His dad was a gangster, straight up.
And then he has two kids.
They thought they had him under control because he's from a mafia family.
unidentified
And then they flip.
joe rogan
Here's the guy's name, Joe Kennedy.
eddie bravo
Isn't that weird?
brendan schaub
Because it's like you're the opposite of your parents.
eddie bravo
Like you want to go against your parents.
So Robert Kennedy and John F. Kennedy, they went against that shit.
That's the only reason they were in there, because of the mob.
The mob supported them.
alex jones
The mob stole Illinois for them and Texas.
eddie bravo
The mob supported John F. Kennedy.
He was hanging out with Frank Sinatra.
Then all of a sudden he flipped, and you know what?
He stopped hanging out with Frank Sinatra.
He started changing his ways.
Something flipped.
Did he have a kid that died or something like that?
Something made him flip?
I thought I read something that could be total bullshit.
joe rogan
Who knows what happened?
eddie bravo
But it could be that he had a son that died that made him flip.
joe rogan
Jamie looked that up.
Let's go to Joe Kennedy Jr. here.
eddie bravo
When you have a kid that dies, that could make you think totally different.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
eddie bravo
When your kid dies, you're like, fuck this.
I'm going with my soul.
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
You're like, fuck this.
What could be worse?
My son already died.
joe rogan
What could be worse?
eddie bravo
I'm coming after you.
I'm coming after you like a fucking Apache savage with nothing to lose.
joe rogan
So Joe Kennedy Jr. was killed in action while serving as a land-based patrol bomber pilot in World War II and was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross.
eddie bravo
Alex Jones throwing down!
Alex Jones throwing down!
Dude, you're on fire.
This is almost three hours.
There's people out there that talk.
alex jones
This is nothing.
eddie bravo
I only go for six hours.
alex jones
We've done this for ten years.
Don't pussy out.
eddie bravo
You're just laying it down.
You're laying it down like Game of Motherfucking Thrones.
No, I'm not.
Yes, you are.
alex jones
All I know is there's people in the government that want to empower people, and they're trying to do a good job, and I'm not anti-government.
I want to have a good constitutional government.
And the truth is, I couldn't believe it when NYPD contacted me of the Secret Service.
The Secret Service came to me when I was at the RNC. So I had like the number one passes nobody had, red passes.
I'd go behind the scenes.
Nobody stopped me, but back in the back deal.
The Secret Service, like in their suits go, Hey Alex, come here.
I want to tell you something about Hillary.
Give us a contact number.
In the next month, we're going to contact you.
About a month later, I get a contact.
They go, can you come down?
Because nothing's digital.
Can you come down and meet at this place?
So I go down and meet.
They were meeting one of my other people as well, because the way they worked was like they were hitting both sides of her operation.
And they said to me, Hillary has seizures like every 30 minutes.
She's got an ambulance that's black.
She falls down all the time.
Just have your people at her events.
You'll see her falling down.
She's covering it up.
Well, sure enough, I announced that on air.
A month later, she falls down in front of the cameras.
We had footage a week before in Cleveland again, same place she was back to.
It was a key battleground.
And she was, like, for an hour in this emergency tent with ambulances and stretchers.
So I'm telling you, I mean, I've got real sources that really care about what's happening in this country, and everything they told me was dead on.
You know what's scary about my government leaks?
joe rogan
Let's go back to that before you move on.
The Hillary thing was very bizarre because nobody was supposed to mention it.
You weren't supposed to mention that she was falling down.
eddie bravo
And she had this weird...
unidentified
They said, oh, she had pneumonia.
joe rogan
They said, oh, she had pneumonia.
Let me tell you something.
I've had pneumonia.
You know what I haven't done?
I haven't ever walked and just fallen down while I'm walking.
That's really frail.
alex jones
Here's the background and then comment on it.
Because this is key.
It's known that in 2012, 2013...
joe rogan
She fell on her head and she got a severe concussion, brain damage.
alex jones
Well, it was really brain surgery from my sources.
But yeah, she's in the hospital for a year.
unidentified
Then...
joe rogan
Yeah, she was fucked up for six whole months, according to Clinton.
Holy shit.
alex jones
So she looks like hell.
We don't know where she is.
And then meanwhile, I'm told, hey, she's falling down all the time.
She looks like hell on TV. And then Secret Service says, look, you've got the people.
Get up off your ass and follow her.
So we follow her in like five cities.
We didn't catch it.
We were in New York.
They sneak her out.
She falls down having epilepsy every 15, 20 minutes, 30 minutes.
The point is, is my intel was good.
They gave us good info.
So what are the elite thinking?
They're going to put somebody in with epilepsy.
That's all I'm saying.
joe rogan
But do you think that it was just that their idea was she can hold it together, just anything rather than Trump?
eddie bravo
As soon as they just wanted to get her through, get all those girls like, oh my God, everything's great.
And then they pass all these motherfucking bills.
joe rogan
And it seemed to me that when all this was happening that people so desperately wanted to not look at it because the alternative was Trump.
It wasn't that they were taking an objective look at it and go, wow, maybe she shouldn't be blacking out, and then you consider that...
Massive head injury that she had in 2012, which is real.
It's a fact.
People don't like it when you bring that up, though, because they think if you bring that up, you're going to change people's opinion, and you're going to help Trump win.
Let's be clear.
alex jones
Can I just spend two minutes talking to your audience?
Which camera is it?
eddie bravo
About Trump.
joe rogan
That one.
Let me just edit.
alex jones
Give me two minutes.
I don't claim to have all the answers, and I'm not here to booster Trump because I'm tied to his wagon.
If I attacked Trump, I'd make more money.
This isn't about money.
It's about the truth.
Trump really is trying to cut taxes and make people successful and wealthy.
He really does care about the average person.
The elite have set up a plan to enslave people, to make folks poor.
And all I'm asking you to do is get past thinking that you're part of the establishment or you're smart because you're anti-Trump.
I'm asking you to actually look at what's really been going on and understand that Democrats, Republicans come and go.
Some are good, some are bad.
The whole power structure has been against Trump for a very serious reason.
Trump is coming after them and really is attempting to bring down this whole global system.
And that's why all hell's breaking loose.
So I just want your viewers and listeners to know, I'm not some political hack.
Like you said earlier, I used to be against Bush.
I wish Obama would have been real.
The point is they got to Obama.
With Trump, he doesn't give a damn.
They admit they're offering him money, everything.
He doesn't listen.
joe rogan
So you think what Obama could have been is who he was when he was running for office, that he was this radical element of change, hope and change.
He wanted to close down Guantanamo Bay.
He's wanted to do all these things.
But once he got in there...
eddie bravo
All that shit.
He had Che Guevara posters in the back.
joe rogan
During his administration, the DEA decided to not take marijuana off the Schedule 1. Everybody knows it's not Schedule 1. Yeah, he was the cover for it.
Schedule 1 means no medical use.
That's what it means.
That's what it means to be Schedule 1. It's crazy that marijuana is Schedule 1 when it's the most useful.
Out of all the different various illegal drugs...
alex jones
Well, look how smart you are, Joe.
You smoke marijuana quite a bit, and you're still a smart guy.
joe rogan
It's definitely not bad for you.
alex jones
I'm just smelling it, and I can't even think here.
joe rogan
I know you can't.
alex jones
Listen, let's get serious.
joe rogan
Let's get serious.
alex jones
All I'm telling you is...
eddie bravo
What's Trump about?
What are those conversations about?
Let the people know.
alex jones
I mean, Trump really wants to make poor people rich.
He really wants to defeat collectivism.
joe rogan
Collectivism.
alex jones
He hates all the bashing the family and just all the New World Order.
Collectivism is this thing, like, you're not an individual.
You're, like, part of a group.
And Trump can't stand that.
He can't stand seeing, as a businessman, business deals where China has, like...
35% currency tariffs on us.
There's no way you can even compete.
And they're shutting off our power plants with regulations, but not theirs.
joe rogan
Why do we do that, then?
What is the reason why business people are...
alex jones
Because our elites, quite frankly, under Kissinger and, of course, the president who was in that administration, Nixon, they made a one-sided deal for elites to go make deals with China, and they're a billion-plus slaves.
I don't say that condescendingly.
They're like slaves.
To leverage out the West and the whole world's industry.
And Trump doesn't like those one-sided deals.
And he's saying, listen, we're not going to impoverish America.
We're going to empower America.
And we're going to actually use American power to promote freedom worldwide.
eddie bravo
So let me get this straight.
For guys like me...
alex jones
I mean, all Trump's does deliver on his promises.
eddie bravo
So what you're saying is, in layman's terms...
The elite, the people in power, the people that have the green light power to sign these treaties, they were maybe offered a couple mil here, a couple mil there, to sign this, to sell the country out so that they could make 10 mil here, 5 mil there.
Something like that?
alex jones
Yeah, the U.S. got colonized by corporate takeover artists, and Trump at the end said, F you, so we're going to take their whole global system they built for nothing, take it away from them, and have the true new American millennium, not the new century.
You listen to his, I don't know if we've got the time, but if you want to play his 18-minute State of the Union, we could start, or not State of the Union.
joe rogan
We're definitely not going to play that.
eddie bravo
He's like the global Fidel.
alex jones
His global inauguration speech, he lays the whole beautiful bitch out.
And so if anybody ever wanted to actually have somebody trying to make them great and wealthy and powerful, it's Donald J. Trump.
That's why the whole elite, the whole power structure, Hollywood, all the pedophiles, every damn demon, every pot-bellied one-inch fucker, they are all against Trump because he...
Is pro-human, and he wants to dominate all these people.
It is an act of alpha male.
eddie bravo
The benefits of the ego every now and then.
joe rogan
Every now and then.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that definitely helped him run for office.
eddie bravo
And he talks to you, and he calls you, right?
I mean, that's crazy.
joe rogan
That's the way you're talking.
He uses English?
eddie bravo
People that don't know Alex Jones, they believe the mainstream media when they try to crucify him and say he's a...
joe rogan
Well, Alex, what you need, honestly, is someone to temper you.
You need me right next to you all the time to balance things down.
eddie bravo
You know how powerful this is?
You being right there, you're like the fucking...
joe rogan
You just need to calm him down, Casey.
alex jones
I will shit on your lap.
eddie bravo
You got a bio suit on, and you got a fucking ray gun.
You're like, okay, we need this alien to benefit humanity, but I gotta put this goddamn bio suit on because he's going crazy.
joe rogan
Just gotta steer them occasionally.
You get on rants, and you'll connect four or five different non-related subjects.
It's beautiful.
unidentified
It's not bad.
eddie bravo
Only a guy that does that, only a guy that does that, that can go rant after rant after rant after rant with no teleprompters, only a guy that can do...
No, but I'm not just saying that, Eddie, you're smart.
alex jones
I'm not just saying this to kiss Joe's ass.
unidentified
He's right.
alex jones
I'm actually very upset that Joe has finished all my sentences and knows more than I do.
And it sits over there acting like he doesn't know all this.
joe rogan
I don't know more than you do.
I definitely don't know more than you do.
alex jones
Just as much as I know, every document, every secret program, you knew all about it.
You know it wasn't bullshitting.
The whole time you've been fucking...
You were Bill Hicks.
eddie bravo
Listen, I'm microscopic...
alex jones
We're better than Bill Hicks.
I'm sick of hearing about Bill Hicks.
joe rogan
He's a great comic.
eddie bravo
Ascopic, bacterial, atomic, split the goddamn critical mass compared to Joe Rogan.
I'm nothing.
I'm nothing.
I've talked so much shit about conspiracy theories that I feel like I need to shut the fuck up because I don't want any trouble.
I don't want any trouble.
alex jones
It's asking questions of the universe.
It's questioning on your own the mysteries and not just receiving the priest class stuff.
joe rogan
Yes.
eddie bravo
I'm not trying to...
I walked away from my podcast.
I thought nobody was listening, but now people want me to go back.
But listen, I don't want to be a conspiracy guy like you.
I don't want to be that.
I listen to you, and you are my canary in the goddamn coma.
As long as you're alive, I feel like I'm okay to say shit.
But I'll tell you this.
Every time I come to do the Fight Companion, do Joe Rogan Experience, I swear to God, I tell myself, this Fight Companion, no motherfucking conspiracies there is.
Let's just live life.
I call Joe, and I call him after Fight Companions.
I go, I can't believe I did it again, Joe.
I can't believe.
But something in me.
alex jones
Here's the good news.
Something in me.
You want a question.
You want to discuss the real world.
eddie bravo
Something in me wants to help people for some reason.
And a lot of times, my inner me is like, fuck them!
Make a fucking, you know what I mean?
Fuck them!
And I'm like, damn!
If I just walk away, because I'm compelled?
But I'm not trying to make money off conspiracy theories.
I can have a conspiracy theory podcast right now and it would be okay.
But I'm not even trying to do that.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to be that guy.
I don't want to be you.
But something inside me, when the fucking mic's there and someone's questioning me, I'm like...
I got a son, and I want to make sure that I fucking do everything I can for him.
Because I don't want to leave him with some shit that I could have changed.
So inside of me, I'm like on the fence all the time.
joe rogan
But you have to be careful.
You have to be careful when you're overzealous.
Because if you're overzealous, then you actually turn people the wrong way.
Then they look at any conspiracies as being preposterous.
Even the ones that are real, like Sandusky, like the Catholic Church, like so many other ones before.
There's a ton of them.
Like Hastert, who was the...
Speaker of the fucking house.
Pedophile.
There's been a lot of those.
alex jones
Poor Barney Frank.
joe rogan
So it's really critical.
eddie bravo
Tower 7. Tower 7 went down.
joe rogan
But hold on a second.
Hold on a second, Eddie.
It's really critical whenever you're discussing any of these things that you get all the fucking ducks in order before you pick a side.
It's super important.
Because any time you make some crazy claim and it's connected to a conspiracy theory and it proves to be wrong, it fucks with all the ones that are really true.
unidentified
No, I agree.
alex jones
And I personally...
eddie bravo
Yeah, you can get them all right.
You got to be real careful.
alex jones
People saying I'm Bill Hicks.
You can't get them all right.
They're saying that.
It hurts me they're that dumb that they don't know I'm my own person.
unidentified
They're not.
joe rogan
It's a joke.
It's a joke meme, man.
It's some Reddit shit.
alex jones
No, I get it.
I get it.
It's a 4chan.
joe rogan
They're having fun.
alex jones
But listen, some of them are serious.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they're having...
No, they're not, man.
unidentified
Some of them are.
eddie bravo
Hey, Alex, let me ask you something really quick.
This is very important.
Let me ask you something.
joe rogan
Super important.
eddie bravo
I was trying to say this earlier, but we had to go back and finish something out.
But this is very important.
I teach jiu-jitsu.
I got students all over the world.
I got schools all over the world.
All my students start to wake up.
You know, that's like a metaphor.
A conspiracy theory.
Like, at different times, some are just into me for jiu-jitsu, but they believe the CNN side 100%.
It takes them three years, and they're like, oh, shit.
They start smoking weed, and damn, they're all over the conspiracy theory.
Everybody awakens at a different point, no matter how smart they are.
You can get your master's, your PhD.
You could be, oh, I'm a scientist or whatever.
We're working for the government, and you ain't thinking about shit.
But listen, listen.
Do you think Donald Trump is in the middle of an awakening?
A conspiracy theory awakening?
alex jones
Donald Trump is 100% real.
eddie bravo
He's like, is he in the middle of an awakening?
alex jones
Yes.
eddie bravo
Because he could have easily been a billionaire two years ago who bought all the mainstream shit, but he was a billionaire.
He didn't give a fuck about the mainstream shit.
He's cutting deals, blowing up hotels.
But now, at a certain point, no matter where you are, no matter how smart you are, you awaken little by little inspired.
alex jones
Donald Trump knows which way the wind's going, and as Julius Caesar in...
In the famous play by William Shakespeare of Julius Caesar, there's a tithe in the affairs of men when taking the flood leads on to fortune.
Or as Mark Twain said, in the beginning of patriots, a scarce man hated and feared and scorned, but a time when its cause exceeds, it costs nothing to join a patriot.
So, here's what's happening right now.
There's a major shift happening, and Trump really wants to empower the people.
Globalism is anti-human.
And so all I'm trying to get at is that some really big things are happening in this world, and people watching shouldn't be conservative or liberal.
joe rogan
Can I stop you for a moment?
When you say globalism, what do you mean by that?
Please define that.
alex jones
Globalism is like neo-colonialism, but it's corporate.
Colonialism over humans, individuals, governments, states, old world, new world.
It's worldwide colonialism.
eddie bravo
Is it Rothschild-Rocker Fellowship?
alex jones
It's monopoly capitalism seeing the dominate populations and create centralized systems of monopolies in control.
It wants to end innovation.
It wants to end upward mobility.
Globalism is corporate world government.
joe rogan
Why do they want to stop innovation?
alex jones
Because they see it.
I was just burping.
They see it as what they call disruptive technology.
And humanity is so powerful, you've already got a monopoly.
joe rogan
So is this a recent consideration after the internet has been invented?
alex jones
No, globalism is bigger than that, but yes.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex jones
You're part of that's true.
Since they've already got control, they want competition to end.
They're in control.
They don't want challengers.
They've seized control of the human psyche, human development, to the stars.
They've got it all.
They think they're getting rid of humanity.
They're becoming gods.
Whatever dimension they're tuned into told them that.
So they want debates to end.
joe rogan
Right.
alex jones
And they want authoritarianism.
joe rogan
Whoa, what happened there?
alex jones
A bolt came off.
eddie bravo
And how is Donald Trump going to stop this?
joe rogan
A bolt came off the...
You're going crazy.
eddie bravo
How do you see it happening?
joe rogan
He's making bolts come off the goddamn microphones.
eddie bravo
How are you hoping it happens, Alex?
How are you hoping Donald Trump...
What does Donald Trump have to do with blocking this?
alex jones
Taxes are energy siphons.
They're vampiric actions.
eddie bravo
Of course.
alex jones
So if he actually cuts taxes to poor people in the middle class and gets rid of tax incentives for really rich, he's like coming after the rich.
But from a conservative perspective, so the Republicans are cheering him.
joe rogan
So is that what he wants to do?
He wants to cut taxes for everybody?
alex jones
Except the rich.
He's going to increase them.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
That seems like the opposite of what a rich guy would do, right?
alex jones
But he understands, like Henry Ford did, you've got to sell a car where people can afford to buy it.
You've got to pay your employees where they can buy it.
He wants real prosperity.
Trump doesn't get off in his limousine driving by burnout old towns.
joe rogan
Has this been announced, this tax plan?
alex jones
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, Jamie, see if we can pull up what it says.
That's fascinating.
I wonder if that'll change people's opinions, if that really does happen, if people can save a significant amount of money in taxes.
alex jones
Where's the problem?
The globalists admit they want a global consolidation.
They want a global downturn to break everybody's will and accept all the new taxes and regulations.
And so Trump is racing.
Remember, they had for eight years 0% interest, but it was only the big banks.
Trump said we're going to keep 0% interest for one year, even though he's against it, but for poor people to get 0% interest.
Who cares?
It's all fiat anyways.
The banks lose the money.
It's all just write-offs.
They're killing it all now and raising taxes.
joe rogan
Trump tax reform that will make America great again.
The goals of Donald Trump.
Number one, tax relief for middle-class America in order to achieve the American dream.
Let people keep more money in their pockets and increase the after-tax wages.
Number two, simplify the tax code to reduce headaches.
Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.
That's some old plan.
alex jones
He's already implemented it, though.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
alex jones
We're 12 days in.
We've already got he's doing it.
joe rogan
So if you're single and you earn less than $25,000 or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax.
Holy shit!
alex jones
Yeah.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
alex jones
End the taxes on portable.
joe rogan
That removes nearly 75 million households, over 50% of the income tax rolls.
They get a new one-page form to send to the IRS saying, I win those who would otherwise owe.
How crazy is that?
They get to save a new one-page form to send to the IRS saying, I win.
Those who would otherwise owe income tax will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.
alex jones
Yeah, it's not that big.
If you're the lowest bracket that pays taxes, you basically don't pay taxes.
Taxes are for rich people.
If you're rich, you pay big tips.
You get it.
These people need money.
joe rogan
Look at this statement.
No business of any size from a Fortune 500 to a mom-and-pop shop to a freelancer living job-to-job will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes.
alex jones
That's his plan.
joe rogan
This lower rate makes corporate investments, inversions unnecessary by making America's tax rate one of the best in the world.
Holy shit.
alex jones
We have one of the highest rates, so nobody wants to be here.
joe rogan
No family will have to pay the death tax.
Holy shit.
alex jones
You know about this?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's giant.
That's giant.
alex jones
He's a deliverer, man.
eddie bravo
That's giant.
It seems like Trump is for real, right?
alex jones
Oh, he's totally for real.
joe rogan
You earned and saved that money for your family and not the government.
You paid taxes on it when you earned it.
That is so beautiful.
alex jones
Take immigrants.
joe rogan
But that is a beautiful tax plan.
That death tax is disgusting.
So if you left money for your kid, they would take half your money.
They take some giant chunk of it, and he's saying that's not going to happen anymore.
That alone, that's a beautiful thing.
That's a very good thing.
unidentified
Isn't it crazy that Trump has painted it out?
eddie bravo
He's painted it out.
alex jones
Last night I land, and there are like 70 of them.
They're, like, pushing by families with kids, like, KKK! Like, yelling at families just on InfoWars.
They, like, literally push by, like, Hispanic families and black people screaming KKK! And I looked at them on tape, they're just going like, what the...
joe rogan
It feels good for people to have a clear enemy.
And if they can justify in their mind you're a white supremacist or anybody on the alt-right is a racist...
eddie bravo
Yeah, I heard Trump's KKK! And I heard he's...
He's a rapist!
joe rogan
Yeah!
eddie bravo
That's what's going on!
All the dumb people are marching on the streets.
That's what's going on.
joe rogan
Well, there's also a bunch of people that are looking for some sort of solidarity.
unidentified
They're fooled.
eddie bravo
They're being punked.
Everybody's being punked.
joe rogan
Maybe they were.
Maybe they thought that Hillary was a better choice and maybe they got excited that they could get together and join up and walk the streets.
Any time you can get people to get together for a common good, in their mind at least, and no one gets arrested, that's a good thing.
It sucks that they probably blocked up traffic for a lot of people and made it annoying.
alex jones
Joe, what would you do if almost half the time you go out to eat or in a grocery store, someone comes up and slaps you in the back of the head?
joe rogan
You're telling me that happens to you, right?
alex jones
Well, I wonder where...
It's like they're interdimensionally connected.
Like, why is it always, boo, you're a loser, slap you in the face in the back of the head?
It's like, how are they so good?
It's not.
unidentified
That was the greatest thing you've ever said.
alex jones
No, I'm serious.
joe rogan
You just invited a door for people going, boo, you're a loser, and then trying to slap you in the back of the head.
It's going to happen now.
You started a meme.
You started a human meme.
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
I don't even care.
The point is...
How are they so synced?
Okay, here's the deal.
You have women going, Allah Akbar, I love God.
unidentified
Oh, I saw that.
eddie bravo
They're synced by the media.
alex jones
Synced by the media, and I'm out there.
Peacefully videotaping them the Saturday after Trump's inaugurated in D.C. before I leave.
And they're like, F you white male.
They're all white women.
F you jihad.
And they put hats on.
Burka's screaming, I'm going to join jihad.
You'll never stop me.
And I'm like, I'm not going to cut your genitals off and put you on a slave block.
I don't get where I've never done anything to women.
And all these weird-ass women, including the D.C. police, were letting people attack us.
They were wearing these pink hats.
You got attacked?
Yeah, it was on video.
joe rogan
Someone was saying that you were drunk.
That's not true, right?
alex jones
Absolutely not.
joe rogan
I didn't think so.
alex jones
No, no.
The truth is, the headline was, Alex Jones kicked out of inauguration.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, right.
alex jones
No, they had people blocking the entrances because they had it all fenced off.
You couldn't get in.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole movement is very aggressive.
It's like a response to what they think is aggressive.
alex jones
Joe, you're all over there slick asking questions.
In the time we have heard, let's be serious.
What is your real world view on the nature of consciousness on this planet in intergalactic space?
I've been really honest today, given a lot of true answers.
So metaphysically, what is the secret of the universe?
joe rogan
This is what I think.
There was a little organism that was just recently discussed.
I tweeted it, I think, yesterday.
And they think it was one of the very first organisms that was the precursor to what we eventually became.
And that all biological life, all living, walking things, came out of this one multi-celled organism.
alex jones
Right, Daddy.
joe rogan
Yeah, so one thing.
I think as that happened, whatever, hundreds of millions of years ago, I don't know what the number is, but however long, billions of years that happened to go, if we keep going in that same direction, whatever we are now, it's going to be totally unrecognizable just a few hundred years from now or a few thousand years from now.
If we just do it biologically, a million years from now.
But I think that if human beings manage to stay alive for a long period of time and not blow each other up, we're on the cusp of figuring out how to manipulate our very beings to the point where we're not going to be people anymore.
It's just going to change.
alex jones
That's it.
Humanity is at the crossroads, and that's my message today.
The elite have decided, they think, the course of our evolution.
I'm here to say...
Shouldn't we decide it and have a debate about it?
And that's why the Joe Rogan experience is a great place for that.
joe rogan
People have this insatiable need for innovation.
They're fascinated by it.
They want the newest phone, even though their phone works perfect.
They just want it.
They have this desire.
It's a weird thing.
It's just like we were talking about.
These things aren't designed to make you addicted to them.
You're just addicted to them, and they're designed well.
There's a weird sort of connection that we have to this technology.
And I think it's because of what Marshall McLuhan said.
I think it's because of what Marshall McLuhan said, that human beings are the sex...
I really think that's what they're doing.
I think all of this integration, all this innovation, all this compelling focus on technology is because evolutionarily that's where our biology goes.
It goes to technology because it can manipulate it at a far faster rate than our evolution.
alex jones
I hear what you're saying biomechanically.
But genetically through round cells, not square silicon, we do it more beautifully.
And strongly, and I agree with what you're saying overall.
joe rogan
I don't think it's an either-or, Alex.
alex jones
We shouldn't just accept it.
joe rogan
But Alex, I don't think it's either-or.
alex jones
We shouldn't just accept it.
joe rogan
They're going to be able to do shit in both ways.
alex jones
I agree.
joe rogan
They're going to be able to do shit where they're integrating computers.
alex jones
If they've got something that makes me live 500 years longer, I'm going to do it.
joe rogan
It's going to happen.
alex jones
The point is...
joe rogan
You're going to be screaming about 9-11, 400 years from now.
alex jones
The public needs to know this.
joe rogan
Yes.
alex jones
So I think humanity should have a larger debate about it.
joe rogan
Well, they are learning about it.
It's just something that you have to seek out.
eddie bravo
It's all control, though.
All the information is control.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know about that.
The information about it is...
About innovation and artificial intelligence?
eddie bravo
Oh, come on.
joe rogan
They're letting a lot out.
eddie bravo
If you were a gangster, if you were Tony fucking Montana running the planet, would you let that shit out or would you keep it for you?
joe rogan
But, Eddie, Tony Montana's not running science.
The thing is, these scientists are almost all involved in universities and different studies, and they're working on their PhDs.
They're trying to make a name for themselves.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
They're exploring all these different possibilities.
And then, big companies that can profit off of it in billions and billions of dollars, like Sony or Apple or any of these other companies, they scoop these I think it's between.
I'm talking about what Intel is.
Here's what I'm getting at.
alex jones
It doesn't matter.
We're having a real discussion about the future of the technological system of humanity.
They don't want that discussion.
So this thing, whether it's Joe or Alex Jones or Eddie Bravo, we're all having, on the Joe Rogan Experience, a discussion the elite are having right now in Kauai, right now with Zuckerberg.
I know for a fact.
joe rogan
The elites are meeting with Zuckerberg?
alex jones
In Kauai.
joe rogan
What do you think he's about?
alex jones
He's about Kauai.
But the whole point is, they're having this meeting right now, and we should discuss what's happening.
eddie bravo
Is Facebook part of the Illuminati?
joe rogan
Now you know.
alex jones
Is a bear shitting in the woods part of it?
eddie bravo
Come on, aren't you on Facebook?
joe rogan
Now you know.
Look at Alex Fleck.
alex jones
They're going to delete your profile.
You better take that back.
They're going to delete your shit.
Don't let him delete your profile.
joe rogan
I know you do.
alex jones
I don't want to cut folks off.
joe rogan
I know you do.
alex jones
Hey, the big issues in the world is he never asked me about Ronald Reagan.
unidentified
I want to know about aliens.
eddie bravo
Can we combine both?
joe rogan
I keep coming back to that.
alex jones
Can we do it?
joe rogan
Because I want to know.
What do they know about aliens?
alex jones
What do you want me to tell you?
joe rogan
Are they real?
alex jones
Okay, I'll tell you right now.
And what I say is not political, and it's not from my particular perspective.
It's from the known knowledge in the universe.
We live in a third-dimensional plane.
We can see the planets, the galaxies, the suns, hundreds of billions of galaxies photographed, universes.
We live in an amazing space-time continuum.
The elites believe...
That it's not in the third dimension that we're mainly receiving transmissions.
Ships don't arrive from Alpha Centauri's, or Gidi Prime, or wherever they're coming from, or BLG's.
They come here through interdimensional gates that are much closer, through fold space.
We have to discuss the different influences that are in the universe and the fact that we have free will and we decide what we want.
I don't believe in any of this.
I'm simply telling you what the elites believe.
joe rogan
So they believe that there's another dimension and these beings are from another dimension.
eddie bravo
A bunch of dimensions.
And they need baby blood, right?
Somehow they need baby blood, right?
alex jones
Well, our brain is able to tune in.
Let me tell you.
We're really powerful.
eddie bravo
I didn't make this up.
alex jones
We're made the image of our creator.
Our brain is able to tune into the lowest dimension, the highest dimension.
Humans are basically really powerful creatures that can live right close to suns.
They're highly radioactive.
Nothing else can live as close.
We have very short lives because we're like a hive organism that actually lives second to second in the space-time continuum.
It's like 100 years.
It's a second.
And we transmit our data up to be able to live next to like these stargate jump gates that are suns.
So because we live so close to these suns, we only have like milliseconds to be alive.
So we're actually a hive organism that keeps transmitting up to the next species in our hierarchical system and then down below us.
So we're alive right now in this continuum and we're trying to progress and make things better.
And the elites are trying to make sure that we don't dial into that incredible knowledge we've got as a species and basically die as a species so that we're not competitors on the next level, as the Bible says, of the interdimensional plane.
joe rogan
Goddamn, that sounded good.
eddie bravo
But you don't believe that.
You're just saying that's what they believe.
alex jones
Oh, yes, exactly.
I don't believe in anything.
joe rogan
What do you believe?
alex jones
No, I mean, I believe in research.
joe rogan
I believe in research, too.
Do you think that there is something from other dimensions that can access us?
alex jones
We are other dimensions.
The third dimension is only one limited plane in a larger spectrum.
joe rogan
So we're a part of that spectrum.
alex jones
Well, let's just say we're not in Kansas anymore.
joe rogan
Alex, have you ever done DMT? No.
Do you want to?
alex jones
I don't need to.
Every night I go to sleep.
eddie bravo
I believe that.
It's like he's on natural DMT all day.
joe rogan
He's definitely on something, man, for sure.
eddie bravo
Hey, I got a question for you.
You know how this is kind of off the cuff a little bit, but off the track, off the beaten path, but you know how the CIA has always been involved in Hollywood and making movies, and you know like Zero Dark Thirty, and you know all these movies that are clearly propaganda movies, you know what I mean?
And most, like even movies you think they weren't propaganda, but they are, like the superhero movies, how they're just, oh, the plots and the evil, oh, they're going to build a bomb and all that.
Is there...
There's whistleblowers within Hollywood that are making movies.
Just like in Brazil, martial arts were outlawed.
So the people that were about the truth, they were doing dance, but they were disguising the martial arts and dance.
Are there filmmakers like that out there that are trying to help humanity with the basis of their films?
Sure.
alex jones
Hollywood's like anything else.
There's good people and bad people.
I don't think Hollywood overall is bad.
eddie bravo
Which movies are the good ones?
Tell me.
Because I'm watching, I'm like, it's Star Wars.
I'm like, is this the bad one that's propaganda?
Like, I don't know.
joe rogan
All the Meryl Streep movies are good ones.
eddie bravo
Yeah, which ones are the good ones?
joe rogan
Meryl Streep.
eddie bravo
Which ones are the ones I should go?
joe rogan
Robert De Niro.
eddie bravo
What about, like, Talladega Nights?
That's not CIA, right?
joe rogan
No, no way.
unidentified
It's beautiful.
eddie bravo
What about, like, when Hangover 1 comes out?
alex jones
Let me tell you.
eddie bravo
That's not the dumbest doubt, is it?
unidentified
Because I've never met anybody that didn't like Hangover.
eddie bravo
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
alex jones
The CIA is only the name of, like...
One part of the shadow government, which is only like the intellectuals of America.
joe rogan
So those people are on Trump's side now?
alex jones
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's the first time ever?
alex jones
Well, the CIA has never been perfect.
joe rogan
But they must have been with Bush, right?
Because Bush used to be the president of the CIA. Bush Sr.?
alex jones
Yeah, George Herbert Walker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So he was head of the CIA. Here's the deal.
alex jones
The CIA was set up supposedly to defend the republic and do all this stuff.
It got hijacked by multinational interests.
It's been retaken.
And they're cleaning the CIA out right now.
eddie bravo
Are you serious?
That's fucking breaking goddamn news.
Put that shit up on Infowars.
The CIA is cleaning house?
Oh my god, that's...
Are you kidding me?
Why isn't that the headline news on InfoWars right now?
joe rogan
In other news, Jamie is wearing the Rock t-shirt.
alex jones
A lot of folks did really crazy things for the CIA in this country's history.
The CIA does like half the fighting and they were all pissed off and they were betrayed by infiltrators inside the CIA and really bad stuff that went on.
But right now, there is a countercube within the CIA going on.
eddie bravo
They're cleaning them out.
alex jones
Well, they're definitely trying.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
Damn.
I like what I'm hearing.
alex jones
Well, we'll see what happens.
joe rogan
Are you happy about the future?
alex jones
Are you optimistic?
If Trump succeeds, within three years, you're going to hear major cancer cures announced.
You're going to hear new energy systems announced.
You're going to hear new companies announced.
They've suppressed all this stuff.
And Trump and good people want to empower humanity.
They believe in the species and the planet, and big stuff's about that.
joe rogan
Do you know how goddamn crazy it would be if Trump became a hero?
alex jones
He is a hero.
joe rogan
But do you know how crazy it would be if the country accepted him, if they figured this out?
If this is all true, this all comes true exactly as you're saying, which I really have no idea if you're right.
eddie bravo
You know what you could play right now?
How about that Bill Clinton clip that you played where he's talking about vetting immigrants, like more hardcore than Trump.
How do you pull that out?
alex jones
How does Jamie pull that out?
Bill Clinton and Hillary promote wall.
And the wall's kind of...
I halfway disagree with him on the wall.
Because people do a ladder over it.
It's metaphysical.
It's like, we're a country we're allowed to have this.
Mexico has one.
Canada has one.
Why can't we?
The big thing is, just deport people that are on welfare.
We need people from Mexico and Russia and Japan and...
joe rogan
Well, just deport people that are on welfare?
Is it only deport the poorest ones?
The ones that are the most fucked up?
alex jones
We can't say, if you won't do anything and you come here, yeah, we'll collapse.
joe rogan
Okay, so when they come over here, you're saying...
unidentified
Let's hear this.
joe rogan
1995.
alex jones
Listen.
joe rogan
This is in 1995.
unidentified
This is huge.
bill clinton
Not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country.
unidentified
The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants.
The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers.
bill clinton
That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens.
alex jones
Way more radical than Trump.
unidentified
In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more.
bill clinton
To speed the deportation of illegal aliens who were arrested for crimes.
To better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the Commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan.
We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws.
It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.
eddie bravo
If that doesn't vindicate fucking Trump on all that fence shit, you are retarded.
joe rogan
But it also makes you realize what a bad motherfucker Bill Clinton was because Trump can't make a speech like that.
eddie bravo
Think about that.
joe rogan
Bill Clinton was a good goddamn...
alex jones
Hey, think about that.
Hit me.
joe rogan
I don't have any problem.
alex jones
Hit me right now.
Full power.
eddie bravo
Dude, that was Bill Clinton.
So if you're out there marching, talking about the fucking wall, if you're some chick out there marching, talking about the wall, and you just heard that, and you don't realize, I'm giving you a chance.
Admit you were punked.
It's okay.
Everybody gets punked.
But from this point on, shut the fuck up about it.
alex jones
Full power.
eddie bravo
That's not full power.
joe rogan
That's about it, folks.
eddie bravo
Are you kidding?
unidentified
I was a 27-time Taekwondo champion.
If I give you full power, you're going to be in the hospital to go to a pitch break.
joe rogan
I think we've had enough.
It's five.
We're going to wrap this up.
We got it.
We did a good job.
We put it together.
eddie bravo
Can I ask one more question?
joe rogan
Go ahead.
eddie bravo
One more.
You know me.
I'm fucking fascinated with the conspiracy theory just like you.
Every night...
Dudes are watching fights and boxing.
I'm listening to conspiracy theories every fucking night when I go to bed.
I listen to Alex Jones every day.
Every day.
The one thing that I don't get, I get the establishment, I get the Illuminati, I get all that shit, but then there's Ronald Reagan.
Every now and then you have Dr. Steve Pachenik on your show and he's talking about some serious conspiracy theories.
All this shit.
He's confirming everything.
He's deep in the CIA confirming shit.
But then when they talk about Ronald Reagan, they talk about he was the last great president.
And I thought...
That actor?
Wasn't he an FBI informant?
Isn't he so goddamn establishment?
Ronald Reagan?
I don't get that.
Explain Ronald Reagan.
I mean, George Sr. was the vice president, director of the CIA. He just seems like total establishment.
alex jones
Hey, Joe, I don't mind cutting this off, but this is once in a lifetime.
joe rogan
Okay, explain Ronald Reagan, please.
alex jones
So if you want to end the transmission, that's fine.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Explain Ronald Reagan.
Go ahead.
alex jones
We're just joking around punching earlier.
joe rogan
No, no, it's okay.
But his question is eight more hours.
He wants to know about Ronald Reagan.
eddie bravo
And I want to know the movies I can trust.
Tell me the movies I can trust.
joe rogan
Ronald Reagan.
alex jones
We're not in some love fest with Reagan, but after all the Obama globalization, it's like a nostalgic good thing.
Reagan ran against George Herbert Walker Bush, said he was globalist, CFR, world government.
Then they told him at the convention, okay, you won, but we're going to not let you have the nomination if you don't want to put Herbert Walker Bush in.
Then a year in, they shoot him.
They just release that guy.
And so all this stuff went on.
eddie bravo
Oh shit, I didn't know that.
alex jones
And so Reagan didn't get his agenda through.
And they tagged on Iran, Contra, all this other stuff.
Reagan actually wanted to get rid of the IRS and a bunch of good stuff.
So yeah, I know he's an anti-communist.
eddie bravo
So he was running against George Bush.
He beat him.
And then when he got the presidential nomination for the Republican Party, they made him.
They forced him to take...
alex jones
That's a true story.
eddie bravo
They forced him.
alex jones
I think Trump's way better than Ronald Reagan.
And I wanted to believe in Obama, but he's a total globalist.
joe rogan
Well, this new tax thing is crazy.
alex jones
That's pretty radical.
What did you think of that?
joe rogan
It's pretty radical.
alex jones
Joe got mad at us, trading punches.
joe rogan
Well, I just don't want you guys getting crazy.
eddie bravo
Give us our final statement on Trump.
alex jones
Choke me out.
eddie bravo
There's people out there that think Trump is racist, and they think he's a sexist and a whoremonger.
joe rogan
Close with that.
I think you added that whoremonger thing.
alex jones
He's not a sexist.
eddie bravo
He's not a racist.
alex jones
I do think he likes women.
joe rogan
Okay, well, good for him.
A lot of people do.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
So you think he's a good guy?
alex jones
I know Trump's a good guy.
What he's done is he's delivered like no president ever.
joe rogan
Everybody wants to find some reason to hate him and some reason to figure out a way to get him out of office.
But shouldn't we, at this point, I mean, he won their game, right?
There's a popularity contest.
He won the popularity contest.
And that's really what being president is.
Figuring out a way to get the most amount of people to say, I like you better.
I mean, it's really what it is.
And he's the first truly popular person who's really good at manipulating the media to win the popularity contest.
Everybody before him had just been a politician.
He's the first guy that's actually famous that then became president.
alex jones
Yeah, he's 2.0.
joe rogan
It's never happened before.
alex jones
We've only been on air three and a half hours.
eddie bravo
Ronald Reagan was famous.
alex jones
3.30.
eddie bravo
Ronald Reagan was an actor.
joe rogan
How long have you been on?
alex jones
What time was it, California?
joe rogan
It's 5 o'clock.
Ronald Reagan was an actor.
alex jones
That's only two and a half hours.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the point being that he wasn't that famous.
He wasn't famous like Donald Trump.
I don't think he was famous like Trump.
eddie bravo
He was a movie star.
Ronald Reagan, are you kidding me?
joe rogan
That's true, but I don't think he was a big movie star.
I think he was like Christian Slater.
eddie bravo
Donald Trump wasn't a movie star at all.
joe rogan
No offense, Christian Slater.
I loved you in Blade.
alex jones
Hey.
joe rogan
He was in Blade.
alex jones
It was the other guy.
unidentified
Joe, this one.
joe rogan
No, he was in Blade, right?
Was Christian Slater in Blade?
No.
Stephen Dorff was.
eddie bravo
So was Ronald Reagan...
Goddammit, you guys.
Did he get his...
alex jones
I'm ready to end this right now, but I'm telling you, once-in-a-lifetime interview, we haven't got the real questions.
We're only two and a half hours in.
joe rogan
No, we're not.
eddie bravo
Three and a half.
joe rogan
It's five.
It's three and a half hours.
eddie bravo
It's three and a half.
alex jones
When do we go live?
joe rogan
1.30.
1.30.
We went live at 1.30.
We're sitting in the chair before 1.30.
eddie bravo
He's on Austin time.
joe rogan
I understand.
eddie bravo
He's all confused.
joe rogan
Look at the clock right next to you.
See, it's 5 o'clock.
Yeah.
alex jones
Fine, I'm ready.
eddie bravo
What else do you want to talk about?
alex jones
All I know is, I want your listeners to know, I've really told you the real truth of what I've researched.
You shouldn't believe MSM. They're total corporate whores.
joe rogan
What do you think is going to happen?
How do you think this is going to play out?
now that you think this sort of silent, bloodless coup is taking place and this guy has gotten through this net that had been set there to make sure that no one other than the people that were already inside the system could ever run it.
So he got through.
That was Paul said.
He's running it now.
What do you think is going to happen?
alex jones
We're in an incredible once-in-a-lifetime situation.
Trump isn't perfect.
He really wants to empower humanity.
All of us have to work hard, be involved, hear our views, put out our ideas, and just move forward.
But they are planning to try to assassinate Trump.
joe rogan
You think so?
alex jones
Oh, God.
They're demonizing him, killing him all over the days.
joe rogan
You mean assassinating for real?
Or do you mean assassinate him, like politically assassinate him?
unidentified
Both.
alex jones
They want to politically destroy his name.
And they want to politically also try to kill him.
All I know is America had half the wealth of the world 20 years ago and 5% of the world population.
We've lost half that wealth.
And it's that...
As we get more powerful, they get more powerful.
And the elite have been trying to domesticate America.
Not that we're perfect, but we've got ideas of industry and ideas and doing things that change everything.
And so the real elite of this planet want to kill competition.
They want to consolidate control.
They want to end the Internet of governments that's American.
eddie bravo
They were about – if Hillary would have won, they would have censored the Internet.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
How are they going to do that?
unidentified
100%.
alex jones
Look it up.
Look it up.
I'm actually surprised how fast he is.
They were putting the pieces together.
eddie bravo
They were about to do it.
alex jones
Okay.
The headline is, Obama establishes Ministry of Truth.
Three weeks before Trump takes office.
One week after Trump's elected.
joe rogan
So ministry of truth being something that stops fake news.
eddie bravo
Is that the idea behind it?
alex jones
News the government doesn't agree with.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So the problem becomes, how do we decide what's fake?
alex jones
Exactly.
joe rogan
Go back, please.
Go back, please.
Obama quietly signs the Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act into law.
Wow.
Late on Friday, with the U.S. population embracing the upcoming holidays and oblivious of most news emerging from the administration, Obama quietly signed into law the 2017 National Defense Authorization Which authorizes $611 billion for the military in 2017 in a statement Obama said.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Where does it say?
alex jones
What's the important part?
joe rogan
He says to federalize the media over the governors, board of governors, the FCC. Federalize the media, meaning federalize television shows, HBO, Netflix.
alex jones
Everything.
All transmissions.
joe rogan
Your website.
alex jones
All information.
All galaxies.
joe rogan
Your website.
My website.
Everybody's website.
What are you doing, Eddie?
alex jones
It says, Obama last minute bills.
eddie bravo
Like, all that shit he signed right on his last days?
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
All that shit.
Read down a little lower.
It says in the bill, we're going to federalize communications.
Put it back up.
joe rogan
I'll show you.
alex jones
We're going to federalize communications and put the CIA over the Board of Governors of the Federal Communications Commission.
joe rogan
That sounds so crazy.
eddie bravo
Dude, you would have been subject to that shit.
They could have easily came to you and said, listen, you can't talk about that no more.
unidentified
Of course.
eddie bravo
If Hillary would have won, that...
What happened, dude?
We were like this close.
joe rogan
I wonder if people would have ever went for that.
alex jones
Let me show you what Trump does.
He is like up until 2 in the morning, everybody knows.
joe rogan
Tweeting.
alex jones
He watches video clips.
He gets on the internet now.
eddie bravo
He's a conspiracy theorist.
alex jones
Which means he questions about Trump.
unidentified
He's our president.
alex jones
I'm not saying Trump's perfect.
I'm going to keep Trump honest.
If he does anything, I'm going to come out against him.
The point is, is that...
joe rogan
He's a different kind of thing.
eddie bravo
Is he going to open 9-11?
alex jones
He's a rogue element.
eddie bravo
9-11.
Is he going to do anything about that?
alex jones
He's already exposed the fact that elements of the government work with Saudi Arabia to launch the September 11th attacks 16 years ago.
eddie bravo
He's going to reopen that shit?
alex jones
He said he will.
eddie bravo
You think that?
Imagine that.
unidentified
Imagine the reopening of 9-11.
eddie bravo
Imagine that.
joe rogan
Tell us about the alien bases on the moon.
Please tell them to release that information about the alien bases on the moon.
alex jones
That's the next question.
What does he know about geoengineering?
joe rogan
Right.
alex jones
What does he know about aliens?
eddie bravo
Not about aliens.
unidentified
Fuck aliens.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I want to know about aliens.
Don't say fuck aliens.
I don't say fuck chemtrails.
You don't say fuck aliens.
Okay?
alex jones
All right, let's do a Donald Trump call.
eddie bravo
I thought we were over aliens.
alex jones
Let's do a Donald Trump call.
unidentified
I'm back.
joe rogan
I'm back on aliens.
alex jones
Let's do a Donald Trump call.
joe rogan
I'm so bored lately.
I'm back on aliens and Bigfoot.
eddie bravo
You're back on aliens?
joe rogan
And Bigfoot.
alex jones
Dude, I was done with aliens 10 years ago.
Well, sir, I'm doing well.
This shit ain't real.
joe rogan
Go ahead.
alex jones
No, it's like ring, ring, ring.
joe rogan
Oh, you ring, ring, ring.
unidentified
Here we go.
Hi, Alex.
alex jones
Oh, Mr. President.
What's going on?
Well, we're moving the agenda forward to cut taxes.
What do you think?
Well, I have to know about those secret space bases.
unidentified
Well, Alex, you've got to come to Trump Tower for those meetings.
joe rogan
I'll come to Trump Tower.
I want to know about aliens.
eddie bravo
Hey, ask Trump.
If he wants to learn some jiu-jitsu, I'll give him private lessons.
alex jones
If he jumps to get a private jet and fly to New York to meet with Trump?
joe rogan
I want to see the bodies, the alien bodies.
We go to Ohio.
eddie bravo
Get Trump on this show!
brendan schaub
Alex, can you imagine Trump on this show?
eddie bravo
That would be huge for him.
joe rogan
Probably not a good idea.
For anybody.
eddie bravo
No?
unidentified
I don't know.
eddie bravo
Who knows?
joe rogan
I would have to say yes.
alex jones
Joe, I don't care if you're too cool.
Are we going to go eat after this?
joe rogan
Well, we have to get the fuck out of here for sure.
Let's talk about whether or not we're going to eat or anything else.
But it's already 5 o'clock, so we're at 3 1⁄2 hours in.
Is there anything more that you have to say before we get out of here?
eddie bravo
Let me get another question.
joe rogan
No, no, no, Eddie.
I want to ask Alex.
alex jones
No, I mean, literally.
I really seek the truth and try to tell the truth.
Fullwars.com has all our articles, our research, our videos, our podcasts, what we do.
And I'm not left or right.
I'm not liberal or conservative.
I'm really trying to find out what's going on in the world.
And so after all these years, Joe, this has been a – I love how you crystallized really good questions.
You kind of knew all this I was going to bring up.
joe rogan
So that was scary.
You just get crazy and you want to keep going and keep going and keep going and keep going.
But I think sometimes you've got to go, okay, hold that thought.
Expand and explain.
No, you're good.
But hold on a second, Eddie.
Things that are in your head self-explanatory You already know about it.
There's a giant percentage of the people that are listening to this have no idea what you're talking about.
alex jones
No, I get it.
I get it.
eddie bravo
I want to say this.
For the Joe Rogan listeners, have an open mind.
You've heard him for three and a half hours.
Download that app, that InfoWars app.
Start listening to him.
joe rogan
Eddie, why don't you do your show on InfoWars?
That's the move.
The Eddie Bravo radio comes back on InfoWars.
eddie bravo
I would do that.
unidentified
There we go.
alex jones
We need Joe Rogan samples.
joe rogan
Magic!
eddie bravo
But listen.
But listen.
joe rogan
Oh, but listen.
eddie bravo
What the fuck was I going to say?
All I want people, I just give him a chance.
He doesn't know shit about space, but when it comes to politics...
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't know shit about space.
eddie bravo
Yeah, when it comes to politics, he's a fucking master.
joe rogan
He's like a coral belt.
He believes you on the other stuff.
eddie bravo
He's like Helio Gracie, and that's a compliment.
alex jones
He doesn't know shit about space.
He's Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Jamie pulled something up.
Jamie pulled something up.
I'm just being honest.
eddie bravo
You can't be an expert on everything.
joe rogan
Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016, the bill expresses the sense of...
This bill expresses the sense of Congress that...
What a weird expression.
eddie bravo
Okay, what are we looking at now?
joe rogan
This is that bill, that anti-propaganda bill.
Foreign governments, including the government of the Russian Federation and China, use disinformation and other propaganda tools to undermine the national security objectives of the United States and key allies and partners.
The U.S. government should develop a comprehensive strategy to counter foreign disinformation and propaganda and assert leadership in developing a fact-based strategic narrative.
And an important element of this strategy should be to help promote an independent press in countries that are vulnerable to foreign disinformation. - Translate that.
alex jones
MSM is on the ropes.
They're panicking.
They want to shut down their competition.
What American watching this or listening doesn't think they should decide what they should listen to or not?
joe rogan
Do you think that would be ever accepted, that they would allow people, someone that works in the government, to censor websites and podcasts?
alex jones
Obama signed a law.
eddie bravo
In China, it's already happening.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this is in China.
alex jones
One month to go.
They signed a bill to try it.
That's what I'm telling you.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
alex jones
Notice how I tell you.
Look at it.
It's a damn bill.
joe rogan
One of the things about podcasts is that they're basically just a pure conversation.
It's just people sitting.
And if you stop pure conversations, I mean, that is like one of the most heinous forms of censorship.
eddie bravo
It's too late.
You can't stop it.
joe rogan
You can't.
eddie bravo
They could try it.
They've been trying it.
joe rogan
But if Hillary really did get into office and they really did try to implement some sort of a...
alex jones
Exactly.
Filtration process.
I almost wish Hillary would have won because that could have been outside the power.
And I keep Trump on the list.
I mean, I attack Trump and do something wrong.
It's hard to find, but he makes some mistakes like torture, iPhone codes or whatever.
joe rogan
So torture, you think, is just, it doesn't work?
It's not good.
alex jones
It doesn't work.
joe rogan
It makes us look terrible to foreign countries.
alex jones
It lowers us to their level.
joe rogan
Yeah.
alex jones
Exactly.
But Trump came out against torture two days ago and said, okay...
joe rogan
So he changed his mind.
alex jones
He's good on stuff like that.
joe rogan
Well, that's very unusual.
eddie bravo
He's waking up.
And when you wake up, you change your mind on a lot of shit.
joe rogan
He's also independently wealthy.
That's one of the things that separates him.
eddie bravo
That's probably a huge factor in this.
I mean, he's not part of the Obama-Hillary network.
alex jones
So that's what I'm saying is that...
There's no calculation.
I just treat you like I want to be treated.
Big stuff is happening.
It's a very exciting time.
joe rogan
Let me ask you this before we wrap this up.
You know, if Trump is this new stage of politics or a new type of politician, what kind of person do you think would be, like, literally the perfect person to run this country?
And what would the perfect person do?
eddie bravo
Ron Paul?
alex jones
Yeah, Ron Paul's great, but I think it's somebody who's worked hard in private business, who really has a sense of success, who loves America.
Who has been through the gauntlet of demonization attacks and dealt with it?
I think it's Donald Trump.
I mean, you look at what he's been through, man.
Who's been through this?
And been a winner over...
And I'm not in some cult of Donald Trump.
In fact, I want to hate him.
I want to not believe he's so good.
But man, when he calls up and can read your mind and knows what you were just thinking about, you're like, man, this guy is like God of the devil.
joe rogan
This tax thing is very fascinating.
It's going to be very interesting.
eddie bravo
He's going to raise taxes on rich people.
joe rogan
I'll pay it.
eddie bravo
To me, every time I turn on my iPhone...
You know what?
I didn't ask for fucking Fox News bulletin.
They force feed you.
They force feed me every morning.
alex jones
They don't feed you Joe Rogan experience or InfoWars.
That's why you gotta search it out.
Because Joe's real, I'm real, you're real.
Whether we're perfect or not, it doesn't matter.
We want to be real.
Everyone should human intelligence support this podcast and InfoWars and the Joe Rogan experience and make this dominant, which it already is, just to say, listen, bitches, you may force feed any...
Bravo, a bunch of CNN, Fox News shit every morning, but you're fucking getting the Joe Rogan experience up your fucking ass.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, I can't believe you went there.
eddie bravo
Every time I turn on my phone, I'm looking, what is CNN trying to fucking force feed you?
alex jones
Since when does an iPhone force feed you the possessed, demonic, PCP jizz of fucking Anderson Cooper?
eddie bravo
Anti-Trump.
Every day.
I'm on the show.
joe rogan
You know, Anderson Cooper seems like...
eddie bravo
Anti-Trump.
They're taking a shit.
alex jones
What's that tell you?
eddie bravo
Anti-Trump.
joe rogan
But isn't Anderson Cooper a nice guy?
Seems like a nice guy.
CIA. He worked there, like, in college, right?
alex jones
No, beyond that.
joe rogan
Beyond that?
He admitted it?
alex jones
He's part of the, like, WIMP CIA. The WIMP CIA? Wait a minute.
joe rogan
CIA has a WIMP division?
alex jones
Yeah, but if you're the Astor family, like he is, or the...
eddie bravo
Vanderbilt or something?
alex jones
Vanderbilt.
John Jacob.
Mr. Meyer Smith.
His name is my name, too.
joe rogan
All right, folks.
That's a wrap.
alex jones
No, it's not.
You have to make fun of me at the very end.
We're talking about transcendental, transcending information here, Joe.
joe rogan
I think.
Sometimes we're talking about that.
alex jones
Infowars.com and Joe Rogan Experience and Eddie Bravo.
joe rogan
No more radio.
eddie bravo
Eddie Bravo Radio soon to return to InfoWars.com.
Eddie Bravo Radio will do a rock and roll conspiracy theory on your network.
If not...
unidentified
He believes the CIA created Jimmy Andrews.
alex jones
How does this go as well as you thought?
Be honest.
joe rogan
Better.
alex jones
Better?
joe rogan
This was fun.
unidentified
I enjoyed it.
eddie bravo
This is awesome.
joe rogan
I enjoyed it.
alex jones
What did you think it would be?
joe rogan
What?
alex jones
What did you think your 9-11 episode would be?
joe rogan
Oh, I thought it would be exactly like...
This is as good as I could have hoped.
We had a good time.
We had a lot of laughs.
We talked about some real shit.
We brought up some news articles that confirm a lot of the crazy things that you're saying that make people...
Like, all those new arrests?
There are new arrests about pedophiles and sex slaves.
Like, holy shit.
If that's real.
What story was...
What news source was that story?
That was KTLA. Yeah, it was, right?
And how many different...
Is it, like, all over the place on the internet and a bunch of different news sources?
eddie bravo
They're going after them.
joe rogan
That one about the sex slaves and being released.
alex jones
It's just an associate approach.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So it's a mainstream story.
eddie bravo
I'm sitting here thinking Trump is...
A major force, global force right now.
Trump, and he talks to Alex Jones.
Alex Jones talks to Joe Rogan, and I'm here because of Joe Rogan.
I'm like, holy goddamn shit, we got some kind of lightning bolt going through the world right now with this podcast.
alex jones
Sure, but it's not like Joe's like, it's like all of us together.
We're all there.
eddie bravo
It had to be like this for it to be like this.
Every day before today, however it went down, had to be like this for this to happen?
Are you kidding?
alex jones
Well, I want it to be better than eight years before I come back.
And Joe, next time you're in Austin, you've got to come in studio.
We've got to do an interview.
joe rogan
That story, that 474 stories, the rest of it was like many, many, many major news sites.
unidentified
It's crazy.
alex jones
Yeah, no, it's real.
eddie bravo
This is a galactic thing going down right now, man.
alex jones
This is huge.
joe rogan
Well, some interesting things are happening to people, and it's happening at an accelerated rate, and we're all part of it.
Everybody listening to this, everybody talking to their friends, everybody reading the internet, everybody watching documentaries, everybody reading books, everybody understanding that we know more about how things work today than we ever have before.
And it's weirder than we ever thought.
alex jones
Isn't this discovery incredible?
eddie bravo
The crazy thing is when people aren't, you're just not asleep and then awake.
You're asleep and then you're partially awake.
You know about, oh, you saw Zeitgeist for the first time.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're partially awake.
eddie bravo
You don't know about all this other stuff.
So when you hear about all the other stuff, you still got that mentality where like, that's bullshit, that's bullshit.
People are partially awake.
Not everybody is fully awake.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of it is bullshit, though.
That's the problem.
There's a lot of wacky conspiracies out there.
Like what?
Like dinosaurs aren't real?
eddie bravo
Loch Ness Monster?
joe rogan
Dinosaurs aren't real?
Loch Ness Monster, they believe, is a shark.
They believe it's a Greenland shark, I think.
alex jones
Greenland sharks are bull.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
They think it's a shark that's like millions of years old and got into that water back when it was connected to the ocean because it's an ancient creature.
And they used to think they were extinct, but now they don't anymore.
They found some.
So they think the Loch Ness Monster, that makes sense.
alex jones
Or like a stir-in.
eddie bravo
It's all about where you get your information from.
No, no, no.
Like a scientist, like, where did you get the information from?
joe rogan
These guys can't talk over each other.
eddie bravo
That's what it comes down to.
alex jones
Well, I'm hardly talking.
joe rogan
I know, but he's talking over you.
eddie bravo
Alex, you talk so much.
joe rogan
When you're talking about Greenland Sharks.
alex jones
Let's be in the arm.
joe rogan
No, no, don't hit each other.
eddie bravo
The one thing about Alex Jones is I will say this.
alex jones
As we end the show, Eddie Bravo, back to you.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
I'm going to fuck you up with my left hand.
And my left hand is my strongest.
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Because I'm Southpaw.
joe rogan
Everybody, you guys are beautiful.
Thanks for listening in.
Thanks for tuning in to episode 911. Eddie Bravo, Alex Jones, and Joe Rogan signing off.
alex jones
All right, Joe.
We've got to do it again soon.
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