Jan. 25, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Let's do the countdown. | ||
| False countdown. | ||
| Four, three, two, one. | ||
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Yee-haw! | |
| And we're live. | ||
| What's up, my brother? | ||
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That was quick. | |
| How are you? | ||
| I know. | ||
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That's how it goes. | |
| I like it that way. | ||
| Very efficient. | ||
| If you like it, just start. | ||
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Just start. | |
| Boom. | ||
| Make it happen. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So, things are getting weird. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| What are you thinking about this orange fella? | ||
| I mean, I gotta say, for me, it's the best time ever to start a news service. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And we started our daily show about a month before, and it just is like, wow. | ||
| And you're doing it on Vice, on your channel? | ||
| No, it's with HBO. It's a daily news show on HBO. It's like we were doing so well on weekly. | ||
| I don't know about shit. | ||
| Why don't I know about this? | ||
| We did our weekly show, and then that was doing well, so they gave us a daily show, and they were going to just put it on HBO Now and Go, but then it was doing so well, they put us on the air on TV, so it's every night. | ||
| This is the best possible compliment for your show. | ||
| Your show is like what I would expect someone who's never done a show before to do if you just gave them a fuckload of money. | ||
| And gave the hosts who have really never hosted anything before and gave them a fuckload of money. | ||
| The whole thing feels so... | ||
| The wrong word to use is unprofessional. | ||
| But it's unpolished. | ||
| Unpolished. | ||
| Unfake-ified. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| It's unpolished. | ||
| There's no one talking like this. | ||
| There's no Brian Williams. | ||
| We didn't know what we were doing. | ||
| And when we started, the criticisms came. | ||
| My favorite was from the New York Times. | ||
| It's just a bunch of hipsters in skinny jeans and tattoos high-fiving in war zones. | ||
| And I was like, if you aren't criticizing the news, aren't criticizing the truth or the facts or the stories, you're just criticizing that we have tattoos and we don't look like you, we won. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| So that was our first season. | ||
| Why wouldn't they celebrate that? | ||
| That's really interesting. | ||
| It's really interesting to see a bunch of young weirdos in war zones. | ||
| You know, there was one that you guys did, I don't remember the location it was, but one of your reporters was out there, and he had a flak jacket on, and he was surrounded by all these rebels in these bombed out buildings, and you could hear, boom! | ||
| You hear things going off in the distance, and he's kind of calmly explaining, okay, so what's going on is they're bombing the location very close to us, and they're over there, and he's pointing at it. | ||
| I'm like, holy fuck! | ||
| It's probably Ben Anderson. | ||
| That guy's a savage. | ||
| I think it was Ben Anderson. | ||
| We just did a thing on the resurgence of the Taliban in Afghanistan and how it's basically going back to the same borders that it was pre-invasion. | ||
| And he's under fire the whole time, and he's just like... | ||
| And he just goes down on one knee and he keeps talking, unfazed. | ||
| And as they're driving back, they're clearing out these IEDs and they're just pulling it with a rope and pulling out the IEDs with a rope. | ||
| And he's just standing there calmly. | ||
| Hoping they don't blow up? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He's calmly talking to the camera as all this shit is happening. | ||
| And you're like, this guy is a fucking special dude. | ||
| Is he on antidepressants? | ||
| No. | ||
| I asked him about it one time, and he goes, you know, I have this thing where there's like a 30-second lag between like some guy like, you want to die? | ||
| And he's got a 30-second lag between like when he realizes that. | ||
| And so he comes across as just sort of like, you know, unflappable, but it's a genetic thing. | ||
| He's also fucking the best war journalist out there. | ||
| Did he fall on his head as a youth? | ||
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No. | |
| Is there something missing? | ||
| Is there a broken part? | ||
| He's built for the job. | ||
| He's really built for the job. | ||
| Well, I'd like to see that in this day and age. | ||
| I mean, we're dealing with this weird time where the President of the United States points to CNN and says, I'm not talking to you. | ||
| You're fake news. | ||
| And then the meme comes, you know, with the sunglasses fall down, the thug life meme with him. | ||
| And you do get a lot of fake news, though. | ||
| You're getting a lot of these unsubstantiated reports about him with prostitutes and urine, and they're talking about it on the fucking news, which is unprecedented. | ||
| No one's ever done that before. | ||
| There's fake news on both sides. | ||
| That's the problem, and there's so much of it. | ||
| That it's almost impossible to wade through it all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, for us, when, after the election, everybody came to me and said, what should we do? | ||
| And I said, we gotta just be logical... | ||
| Fact-based, middle-of-the-road, press record, non-political, non-partisan, none of this shit. | ||
| We just go out there and do it. | ||
| The problem is, you know, we view ourselves as centrist and sort of press record, all that stuff, but if the world takes us over a giant leap to the right with You know, fake news and all this crazy shit happening, then you're sitting there sort of going, well, all of a sudden we're put in this position. | ||
| Like, for me, I always bring it up and say, like, I'm an environmentalist because there's a boogeyman there. | ||
| Like, we all get fucked if the environment gets fucked. | ||
| And there's a boogeyman that we can sort of, you know, go against, and it's good for everybody, you know, whatever. | ||
| And the problem is, is I don't know when environmentalism became a left thing. | ||
| It should be for anyone who's sane, anyone who's smart. | ||
| And, you know, I spend time, like, going back to war, like, when you spend a lot of time in war zones, the one thing when you talk to people in those war zones is war is fucked. | ||
| It's not fun, it's not heroic, it's not like a manly shot in the, you know, it's like, you know, catheter bags and you're fucked up and, you know, you're on PTSD. Half your head's missing. | ||
| Half your head's missing, your ass is missing, your balls are missing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so when you go to these things, you never want to go back kind of thing. | ||
| You know, when you talk about the environment, when you talk to the scientists, they're all like, well, of course it's a global scientific consensus. | ||
| Of course it is. | ||
| And then I did this piece this year on season five. | ||
| It's going to be the first piece. | ||
| And I'm like, I literally don't understand what the fuck is happening here. | ||
| Because if you talk to every scientist now, they're terrible. | ||
| At getting information, scientists. | ||
| But they're like, well, that's not my fucking job. | ||
| My job is to do science. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, but, you know, there's this global scientific consensus of, you know, global warming, 97%, which never happens in any science, right? | ||
| Ever. | ||
| But there's all this doubt. | ||
| Not all over the world, but a lot in America still. | ||
| So we looked at it. | ||
| We said, what the fuck is happening here? | ||
| And there's now three AGs, three attorneys general, with 20 other in support who've come out for this lawsuit now against Exxon. | ||
| CEO of Exxon is now our Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson. | ||
| And so what happened was they knew in the 70s and 80s that fossil fuel... | ||
| You know burning fossil fuels carbon in the air carbon emission caused global warming and was a factor for global warming and Then they realized this is gonna be bad for business so in the 80s and 90s and now they spend billions of dollars on You know discrediting the science. | ||
| That's the whole thing. | ||
| Well, there's no consensus. | ||
| There's no consensus That's the that's the thing they spend billions of dollars to do it. | ||
| There is a consensus There's a total merchants of doubt I did. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it highlights that. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And a lot of people, it's the same people. | ||
| What that highlights is it's the exact same scientists and the exact same people and groups. | ||
| More like spokespeople. | ||
| Spokespeople. | ||
| That went after cigarettes. | ||
| They did cigarettes. | ||
| Well, in some cases, the same scientists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They said, oh, well, it's the exact same thing. | ||
| It's question the science. | ||
| It's, you know, well, there's not, we can't really figure out, smoking lung cancer could be anything. | ||
| And do it loudly and concisely with quick sentences where they're very well prepared. | ||
| And they did the exact same thing with global warming. | ||
| And that's why when you come here and you talk to people and say, you know, look, we have to do this. | ||
| They're just like, no, science isn't settled. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| And you're like, it's like back in the day when your mouth would open and a cigarette would come out and say, smoking is good for you. | ||
| It's like an oil can comes out. | ||
| You're like, no, the science isn't settled yet. | ||
| Well, that whole argument that the science isn't settled yet, like you said, it's being perpetrated by the people that can profit on the science not being settled yet. | ||
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Correct. | |
| And that gets really scary because a lot of other people... | ||
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You're being duped. | |
| You're being fucking duped. | ||
| And what gets scary is it makes it real convenient for right-wing people who just classically think and vote and behave right-wing to just adopt that thinking and then repeat and pair those words. | ||
| It's not a fucking left thing. | ||
| It's an everybody who likes to go outside thing. | ||
| It's like everybody likes to hunt thing. | ||
| Everyone likes to swim thing. | ||
| Everyone likes to surf thing. | ||
| Everyone likes to drink fucking water. | ||
| I mean, did you see this? | ||
| There was a new report that came out today about the infrastructure in terms of the water supply, the pipes that we have, that the water's being carried with, that they're all rotting out in a place in this country. | ||
| It'll cost a trillion dollars. | ||
| But they're saying that Flint, what happened in Flint, could happen in a lot of places. | ||
| Yeah, it's just old infrastructure. | ||
| It needs to be replaced. | ||
| You know, and here it is. | ||
| Nation of Flint. | ||
| America's 1.2 million miles of deteriorating lead pipes and they'll cost one trillion dollars to fix. | ||
| One thing that I like about Trump is that he has been saying that he wants to address the infrastructure and he wants to put people to work fixing all the problems that exist and creating jobs by fixing all these types of problems. | ||
| Which is another famous president said the same thing. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| FDR. Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's a good guy, right? | ||
| Wasn't he a good one? | ||
| It's hard to say who's a good one. | ||
| We only like the ones that get shot. | ||
| I have a whole bit about that. | ||
| We like Kennedy and we like Lincoln. | ||
| Well, it's interesting, you know, because the president, if you really look at it, traditionally, you know, their big power is right now is when you do appointees or when you get a judge through or when you do an appointee, you put your cabinet together. | ||
| And then the cabinet has power and the president goes on to opening, you know, bridges and, you know, flying around the world and shaking hands and kissing babies. | ||
| And I think that that's what, you know, what we said is we're not going to, as a news agency, look at the boombastic or the, you know, the titillating headlines or the, oh, my God, he said that. | ||
| We're going to look after policy. | ||
| We're going to look at what is the EPA's With a guy who runs the EPA who tried to sue the EPA and shut it down. | ||
| What does the Department of Energy look like with Rick Perry, who, when he ran for president, said, I would shut down the Department of Energy. | ||
| What does that look with him actually running it? | ||
| Or Sessions, who actually is now the Attorney General, who sued the government many times against climate change reform. | ||
| Or Rex Tillerson, you know, who ran the largest fossil fuel company in the world, now being Secretary of State. | ||
| So we're looking more at just policy, what policy, you know, changes because of this cabinet, etc., etc. | ||
| Yeah, it's really weird. | ||
| It's like everybody thought this was going to be this sort of get rid of political correctness, stop all these whiny, crybaby liberals. | ||
| And then once you got into office, a lot of the same people that I talked to that were kind of in support of them... | ||
| Just kind of stepped back and went, whoa, like already? | ||
| Like right away? | ||
| Keystone Pipeline, the Dakota Access, immediately, abortion. | ||
| I mean, they're cutting insurance paying of abortion. | ||
| How would you say that? | ||
| Funding of abortion. | ||
| It's like you can't get an abortion with insurance anymore. | ||
| Have they passed that? | ||
| Has that been passed? | ||
| Which is, you know, obviously for some people that don't like abortions, it's a very touchy subject, which ironically are the same people who love war. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You don't want you killing babies. | ||
| You don't mind killing people once they're full grown. | ||
| They can go fuck themselves. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Especially if they live in some other spot. | ||
| And he's really fucking building a wall. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like it wasn't just rhetoric. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's a guy who got elected on a populist, you know, platform, so he's going to do some of those things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's going to be interesting, man. | ||
| I mean, I think two things about it. | ||
| I don't really think so much about Trump as much as two things. | ||
| I think, A, it shows a sort of generational divide. | ||
| You know, it's not just Trump, because you saw it in Brexit, you're seeing it in France, you saw it in Italy, you're seeing it in many countries around the world, where you have the largest cohort, the largest demographic now is Gen Y. But the socio-economic and political power is mostly still controlled by the boomers. | ||
| So you have this sort of generational, you know, divide. | ||
| And what happened in America was, you know, the Gen Y was more fractured. | ||
| You know, we talked a little bit about this. | ||
| It fractured because of Bernie Sanders and Hillary and people just didn't like Hillary. | ||
| And so, and by the way, she's, you know, an older generation as well. | ||
| And then Trump was the sort of baby boomers, like, living in the gated community, saying, we don't want all that bad shit to happen. | ||
| I understand why people don't want to believe in environmental change, because it's scary and it's bad, and it's like, fuck, I don't want to believe in that, so I'm not going to believe in that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I think, but you have this generational divide, and now what you have... | ||
| It's just sort of this backlash of kids going, like in Brexit, they're like, what the fuck? | ||
| You guys vote to fucking leave Europe and now I'm fucked. | ||
| You know, hold on a second. | ||
| And now I think you're going to get that. | ||
| So I think it's sort of a global thing. | ||
| And I think it's also young people are getting upset. | ||
| And also they're learning, you should have fucking voted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've talked to quite a few people that were pissed off that didn't vote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like, well, that's kind of weird. | ||
| And they were like, well, California's going to Hillary anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's the problem. | ||
| Like, you know, California legalized recreational marijuana and... | ||
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Sessions. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't want it. | ||
| He literally is on record saying that good people don't smoke marijuana. | ||
| What about drink scotch? | ||
| Do good people drink scotch? | ||
| What about cigars? | ||
| Do good people smoke cigars, Jeff? | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| And I think that that's, you know, if you look at it, I think young people know what side of history they want to be on. | ||
| We're all like, we all know it's going to be legalized. | ||
| We all know it's going to be there. | ||
| It's going to be like, say, three years, maybe five years. | ||
| And then all this shit, all those people in jail don't have to be in jail. | ||
| All this money, all this tax money can go and look at what happened in Colorado. | ||
| All the cartels, all this stuff. | ||
| It's just like, it's going to happen. | ||
| So anybody who comes along and says, nope, fuck that. | ||
| You're like, well, you're on the wrong side of history, brother. | ||
| Well, he's left it up. | ||
| What Trump has said is that he's going to leave it up to the states. | ||
| So if he leaves it up to the states, it's just going to go across the country. | ||
| And then what are they going to do federally? | ||
| Once it becomes state legal everywhere, and then the federal government still says it's illegal, what do they do then? | ||
| I mean, do they change then? | ||
| Well, they have to change a lot because of the money. | ||
| They have to change a lot because in Colorado, it's legal, but you can't bank it. | ||
| Yeah, it's a fucking mess. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| They have armored cars and guys with guns. | ||
| I know a lot of guys who are former SEALs and guys who work for Blackwater, and now they're fucking holding guns at weed shops because they got a million dollars in cash in the back. | ||
| Which is bad enough with one state, but when it's 20 states... | ||
| Not only that, how many fucking places in that state? | ||
| Think about one state. | ||
| How many mercs do you have running around those places? | ||
| Grow houses and the banking and it all has to be cash business. | ||
| You have to grow your own shit in Colorado, too. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| You're not buying it from somebody. | ||
| You have to grow it if you're selling it. | ||
| They're creating a dangerous situation and people have already been robbed. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And, you know, the whole thing, to me, it was really disappointing when the DEA didn't change the classification from Schedule 1 in August. | ||
| Like, they had the opportunity. | ||
| All the evidence was there. | ||
| They know the evidence is there, and they fucking lied about it. | ||
| And this is under Obama. | ||
| Also, the problem with that is, because it's Schedule 1, you can't do research on cancer, all of the CBD stuff that's coming out now. | ||
| Where it's not psychoactive, which is so important. | ||
| For people who have issues like arthritis, and I had Joe Valtellini here, who's a former kickboxing champion. | ||
| He's a commentator now for Glory. | ||
| He told me that he was locked in a room after one of his concussions from his last fight. | ||
| Locked in a room in the dark for three weeks because you couldn't even see the light on the power button on a cell phone. | ||
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To get a migraine. | |
| To charge a cell phone. | ||
| Like the little red light, that would give him a headache. | ||
| And so CBD oil cured him of that. | ||
| And it's currently illegal. | ||
| And that's the thing is, again, what side of history do you be on? | ||
| Like, we know all of this stuff. | ||
| We know where it's going. | ||
| Why the fuck are we slowing down now? | ||
| Well, it's a bunch of old people. | ||
| That's really what it is. | ||
| It's a bunch of old people who don't get high. | ||
| And they're scared of it. | ||
| And instead of looking at it pragmatically, objectively, looking at the science, they're looking at it like some goddamn 1950s episode of Dragnet. | ||
| You know, Joe Friday's coming in. | ||
| Pot is for losers. | ||
| It's frustrating. | ||
| Are you a loser, Mickey? | ||
| You know, it's like, that's really what's going on. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we did this story. | ||
| Do you know the kings of cannabis? | ||
| Do you know these guys? | ||
| They're like the seed hunters. | ||
| They fly around the world and they find the best seed strains. | ||
| And then they go back to Holland and they make... | ||
| They won the Cannabis Cup like six, eight years in a row. | ||
| They did White Widow. | ||
| Let me tell you something about the Cannabis Cup real quick. | ||
| I was one of the fucking judges. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| Well, you know these guys are two Dutch guys. | ||
| I don't know these guys because I only did it once and I'll never do it again. | ||
| It's a farce. | ||
| Okay, this is what they give you. | ||
| They give you, you know how those old ladies that take pills? | ||
| Like if you're, like someone else take your arthritis medication and you have like seven days and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, those little things. | ||
| They give you one of those. | ||
| Each one of those things has weed. | ||
| And you just start fucking smoking. | ||
| You're off to the races. | ||
| You have no idea! | ||
| After the first couple of hits, you're on Pluto. | ||
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This one's great. | |
| And you're just fucking hammering it. | ||
| And then everybody's talking in this ridiculous jargon. | ||
| They're like, oh, this is really tasty. | ||
| They're fucking super annoying and stinky. | ||
| And they're talking about the cannabis community. | ||
| I had this weird conversation with this one dude. | ||
| Who won when you judged? | ||
| Who the fuck knows? | ||
| I don't even know who I voted for. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I was so high afterwards I was having out-of-body experiences because people were giving me cookies and candies. | ||
| It was one of, if not the highest, one of the highest I've ever been in my life. | ||
| Maybe the highest. | ||
| Because we were at this place on Melrose. | ||
| It was a head shop, and in the back they had this pot thing. | ||
| And it was just filled with fucking people, and there's no ventilation, just filled with pot smoke. | ||
| And this is in Amsterdam? | ||
| This was in Los Angeles. | ||
| Oh, Los Angeles. | ||
| Yeah, they did it in LA. Oh, shit. | ||
| And they're passing around bongs and pipes and cookies and cakes, and they had security there to make sure no one didn't come, and they had it all blocked off. | ||
| They did a smart job, like the way they handled it, but as far as actually judging what's the best pot, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| No one has any idea. | ||
| It's like giving you seven glasses of whiskey and then telling you to drink some wine. | ||
| What wine do you like, Shane? | ||
| You're like... | ||
| That's generally how it is. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's how most of our podcasts are. | ||
| I judged it, and I don't remember what I judged. | ||
| I don't remember what the pot was like. | ||
| I was a poor judge, and everybody else is a poor judge, too. | ||
| But I'm being honest about it. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| If you wanted to have a real cannabis cup, you would give someone a strain for a week. | ||
| And then give them another strain for a week. | ||
| And make them keep a journal. | ||
| And then make them send in that journal. | ||
| Like, this is my experience on this. | ||
| This is how much I smoked. | ||
| This is what it felt like. | ||
| Body high. | ||
| You know, head high. | ||
| Or if it's too fucking strong. | ||
| Some of that shit is like acid. | ||
| You like that? | ||
| That's my stuff. | ||
| It's getting to a strange place now, for sure. | ||
| Because what's interesting to me is when people who don't smoke it, smoke it. | ||
| Then I get to see. | ||
| Because our tolerance is so high. | ||
| I smoke it almost every day. | ||
| At least five days a week, I probably smoke weed. | ||
| So when I see people that tried for the first time, and you see that terrified look in their eye, they're confronted with their own mortality, and they feel the earth spinning, and they're like, Jesus! | ||
| I've got a question for you, Mr. Smoker. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Because my problem is I'm an ex-smoker, not an ex-weed smoker. | ||
| I'm a current weed smoker. | ||
| I'm an ex-smoker smoker. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so smoking always makes me want to smoke cigarettes, A. B, so I do like, you know, they have all the different things now. | ||
| The one I like is this high CBD sort of, but it gets you high still, the honey. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And it's fucking awesome. | ||
| Whatever you need, I can get. | ||
| Okay, but the thing is, I got a question because I was thinking about this the other day, because I'm like reading all about, you know, how it stops cancer, and this is great for this, and great for that, and all this other stuff, so I'm like, fuck yeah. | ||
| But isn't smoking it still bad for you? | ||
| No, apparently not. | ||
| Who's saying that though? | ||
| Scientists. | ||
| It actually acts as an expectorant on your lungs. | ||
| It's actually good for people that have emphysema. | ||
| It's actually good for people that have issues with their lungs, which is really strange. | ||
| Asthma, really good for asthma. | ||
| If you're smoking weed. | ||
| Yeah, crazy. | ||
| Doesn't seem to make sense. | ||
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No. | |
| Much better, though, because smoking is still kind of harsh, but the effect of the cannabis smoke... | ||
| Cannabis smoke is not toxic the same way cigarette smoke is. | ||
| And one of the reasons why cigarette smoke is toxic is not just the tobacco, which is toxic. | ||
| 599 fucking chemicals, or whatever the hell it is now. | ||
| Marijuana users have good lungs for transplanting. | ||
| So if you get high, walk off a building. | ||
| Whoops, man. | ||
| Yeah, your lungs are good. | ||
| But you don't have to smoke it. | ||
| Here's what I'm down with. | ||
| These fucking things that I got charging right here. | ||
| These vape pens. | ||
| Some of them suck. | ||
| Because some of them, the ones that look like an e-cigarette, those suck. | ||
| They don't have enough juice. | ||
| They're not powerful enough. | ||
| You want one that has a really good pull. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| That's got some... | ||
| Because these... | ||
| These get you high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like getting high, getting high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Whereas the other ones, you gotta keep hitting them over and over and over and over again to get high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| These motherfuckers get hot because that battery's fat. | ||
| See how fat that battery is? | ||
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| It's much fatter. | ||
| The other ones, when you get the ones that are skinny like this, the other problem with the ones that are skinny is you get a lot of duds. | ||
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| Like they're making a lot of them in China. | ||
| Sorry, China. | ||
| But a lot of them suck, man. | ||
| Like my friend Gino, who sells me everything, he gave me three, no, four pens and three of them were duds. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Three out of fucking four were duds. | ||
| They just didn't work. | ||
| If it was all legal, then... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Quality control. | ||
| Quality control. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they were packaged. | ||
| See, the whole deal is that they're packaged already, and when you're getting these ones that are pre-packaged, you throw them away when they're done. | ||
| It's very wasteful. | ||
| So this, you just get this little cartridge, you slide the cartridge into this big, fat battery thing, and blam! | ||
| You're there. | ||
| Off to the races! | ||
| Want some? | ||
| No. | ||
| Scared? | ||
| Don't be scared. | ||
| I'm being a good boy. | ||
| It's a good time, man. | ||
| It's a good time for that. | ||
| And it's a good time for people to do... | ||
| Well, the problem is the research is still... | ||
| Federal research is still impossible. | ||
| Doing real hardcore research on large-scale research nationwide. | ||
| And we should be going... | ||
| Anything that shows some promise re-cancer, we should be going whole hog after. | ||
| And the fact that we're not is just ridiculous. | ||
| I'm worried that Trump has such incredible connections to money, and that all the good parts that's going to come from that, like his no-nonsense approach to infrastructure, wanting to rebuild a lot of things, put a lot of people to work because of that, and a lot of people benefit from that. | ||
| What scares me is that money connection with the pharmaceutical companies who have just gone way, way out of their way to just try to stifle marijuana research at every possible turn and legalization at every possible turn. | ||
| It's just criminal. | ||
| What they do is awful. | ||
| Because when you make something illegal, it's not just making something illegal, which is why I had to drill this into the head of a friend of mine who is pro-Hillary, and he's asking me why I'm upset with her. | ||
| And I said, look, dude, there's a fucking email that was leaked, the WikiLeaks email, that said she's against marijuana in every sense of the word. | ||
| She was making a promise. | ||
| To some organization, I don't remember who it was, but they were asking her, what is her stance on marijuana? | ||
| She's against it in every sense of the word. | ||
| How could you be? | ||
| That's like saying I'm against peanut butter in every sense of the word. | ||
| You know, like, what are you, a monster? | ||
| You want people to go to jail for peanut butter? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, the problem is, it's not just that you don't like it, which I'm fine with. | ||
| The problem is, you can make people get locked in a cage. | ||
| That's a crime. | ||
| It's a crime. | ||
| We know this is innocuous. | ||
| Like, I just hit We're having a conversation. | ||
| There's no problems. | ||
| This is not some devil weed. | ||
| It's not going to ruin lives. | ||
| I pay taxes. | ||
| I have a family. | ||
| Everything's fine. | ||
| Wake up when the alarm goes off. | ||
| We're being fed bullshit. | ||
| And when someone who's in the position of running for president, like Hillary, Says something crazy like that. | ||
| She's against marijuana legalization in every sense of the word. | ||
| That means people are going to go to jail. | ||
| That means people are going to get shot. | ||
| That means more Mexican drug gangs are going to ship more illegal product over here. | ||
| No research is being done. | ||
| No research is being done. | ||
| People are going to die from cancer that don't have to die. | ||
| People are going to get diseases they don't have to get. | ||
| But this is my problem because, again, it's what side of history do you want to be on? | ||
| And I think that most people who grew up the way we did or sane people are just saying, what the fuck? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| And as you said, there's five different positive aspects for it. | ||
| And by the way, we all know where it's going. | ||
| So why? | ||
| If it doesn't go in that direction, we're going to have a fucking revolution. | ||
| And they need to understand that what you saw with that women's march, the day after Trump was inaugurated, when you see millions of people, there was a million people in LA, they expected 80,000. | ||
| 970,000 fucking people showed up. | ||
| Whitney Cummings sent me some pictures when she was there, and I was like, holy shit! | ||
| This is crazy! | ||
| That kind of movement is not just connected to women's rights, and it certainly is at that day, but it's a mindset. | ||
| It's a mindset of protesting and fighting what they think is wrong. | ||
| And it's going to spread across the board. | ||
| So we're in a weird fucking bipolar situation in this country. | ||
| We're in a bipolar situation. | ||
| We're a bipolar country in a lot of ways. | ||
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There's a lot of, you fucking liberal crowd babies, you bunch of libtards. | |
| Well, this is the whole thing, is that You have... | ||
| I did a special on dysfunction. | ||
| That's a picture from Whitney Cummings' Instagram. | ||
| Jesus, that's a lot of people. | ||
| Well, actually, it's good because I think Americans had forgotten how to sort of protest. | ||
| Americans had forgotten that this is part of democracy and all this stuff. | ||
| We've been sort of... | ||
| Talk radioing our anger in quiet. | ||
| I think it's good to go out and protest if you believe in it, A. B, if you sort of look at what's happening politically. | ||
| I did a thing on House Divided. | ||
| What's interesting is if you ever do anything on Israel, then the Palestinian, pro-Palestinian people go after you. | ||
| If you ever do anything on Palestine, the Israeli people go after you. | ||
| You can never do anything right. | ||
| It's the same thing when you do politics here. | ||
| We thought we were incredibly even-handed. | ||
| We gave Republicans the same amount of time as the Democrats. | ||
| The Democrats were like, you made the Republicans look too good. | ||
| The thing is, when you look at it, you say, You know, it's so broken that it used to be just like, you know, pendulum swings, pendulum swings. | ||
| But now what's going to happen is that Trump gets in. | ||
| He's going to undo a lot of the last eight years. | ||
| Then the Dems, when it swings to them, will undo what he undid. | ||
| So it's not doing nothing. | ||
| Now it's going backwards. | ||
| And so you're sitting there saying there's a lot of shit that we've got to solve. | ||
| And we can't solve it if we just keep going backwards politically. | ||
| And I think that's why there's so much frustration, is because you're sitting there going, let's unwind what they did for the past eight years, and then someone else will get in and unwind what we unwound. | ||
| We have a real problem as human beings in getting into that team mentality. | ||
| There's so many of us on the left that have so many... | ||
| We agree with so many things that the right stands for. | ||
| And there's so many on the right that agree with so many on the left. | ||
| I mean, I'm more left than I am right, but I'm pretty fucking right. | ||
| I'm right on a lot of shit, like gun control. | ||
| You're a centrist, which is hopefully what most people should be, that they can see the logic in both sides. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The problem is when you get too far to the left or too far to the right, it's crazy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And what's worrisome is you have no farther to look than France. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| France elect a socialist, you know, PM, and then all of a sudden the Front National, who were a joke, become the leaders in the next election. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Front National are like, you know, super right-wing. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And so you sit there and say, okay, well, everyone's moving far and far... | ||
| It's best when we're all just fucking working together. | ||
| The economy's doing well, we're all getting it done, and we're sitting in the sort of logical middle. | ||
| That's the problem with going too far to any side. | ||
| You can be on either side on issues and all this stuff, but if you go too far and you're too sort of dogmatic on either side, that's when it gets scary. | ||
| Yeah, and it gets scary quick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It gets scary real quick as soon as one incident happens. | ||
| And it gets scary in France. | ||
| Imagine scary in this country where you have more guns than you have human beings. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And that's what people go, that's the gun problem! | ||
| It's not a gun problem. | ||
| It's a human being problem. | ||
| And if we address it as a gun problem, you're going to make that human being problem even worse. | ||
| Because you're going to take people's guns and you're going to make them more angry. | ||
| Any kind of legislation that fights against their rights that they think are there by the founding fathers, You're gonna have a giant problem. | ||
| And when people think that you could just pull it away from them, we're just gonna take away the guns. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| There's nothing they can do. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| There's definitely something they can do. | ||
| And you gotta be really fucking careful starting that war. | ||
| It goes back to messaging. | ||
| And you're saying, like a lot of people are saying, no, the science is out because they spent billions of dollars to do that. | ||
| The thing is, is when you are playing such far right, far left partisan politics, then you have people saying, oh, Obamacare. | ||
| He's a socialist. | ||
| He's trying to take over the government. | ||
| He's trying to do this. | ||
| He's trying to do that. | ||
| And sort of blowing it up. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because that creates the Tea Party, which, you know, comes in and then they have power. | ||
| And then the Tea Party, by the way, has to go back to their constituents and say, we're going to repeal it. | ||
| We're going to do this. | ||
| We're going to do everything. | ||
| And it just becomes... | ||
| Everything goes to the atomic level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so that when you actually go into, you know, into Congress or into the executive or into the Senate and you try to get anything done, you can't. | ||
| Because you promised that you're not going to, you know, do anything, you're not going to have any sort of, you know, partisan, you know... | ||
| Relations. | ||
| Bipartisan relations. | ||
| Bipartisan relations. | ||
| Yeah, it's fucked up, man. | ||
| And it's stupid. | ||
| And it exists because we have two parties. | ||
| When you make two people, you make one of them wear red, and you make one of them wear blue, they start wanting to fight each other. | ||
| It's a stupid thing that we have. | ||
| Or at least disagree. | ||
| You're also always in power. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're in or out, you're always in power because there's only two. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you're always going to be this sort of opposition. | ||
| Yeah, and that influence, the problem is like, this is what people have to realize, a lot of your opinions, and my opinions too, are not really my opinions. | ||
| They're opinions that I've decided are good, that I've heard from other people. | ||
| And a lot of our patterns of behaviors, from accents to the way we approach culture, the way we think about women, the way we think about religion, a lot of that is learned. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And we have these two deeply ingrained patterns in this country. | ||
| We have the Democrats and we have the Republicans. | ||
| And the Republicans are these no-nonsense, get business done, you know. | ||
| And the Democrats are, you know, we always think of, oh, these people are all crybabies, and they're all wishy-washy, and they're bleeding hearts. | ||
| And this is like ingrained. | ||
| It's sort of ingrained in our system, these two different patterns of behavior. | ||
| And they're severely problematic. | ||
| Because you could exhibit a lot of traits on each side and still be a very good person or a lot of ideas on each side and still be a very good person. | ||
| But if you look at, I remember when, you know, looking at sort of the Clinton administration, he took the largest deficit in history, made it the largest surplus in history, shrunk government, you know, basically the tenants of the Republican Party. | ||
| W gets in, takes the largest surplus into the largest deficit, expands the government, etc., etc. | ||
| But nobody said boo. | ||
| You're like, hold on a second. | ||
| We just switched these things over here. | ||
| Well, no one wants to criticize their side. | ||
| It's like sports teams. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| You pick your sports team when you're six. | ||
| You pick your political party because your parents do, generally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And where you are, and then that's it. | ||
| I don't give a shit what they say. | ||
| I bet coming out as a Democrat to your dad in a lot of places is like coming out gay. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I bet it's probably one of the same things. | ||
| You're a fucking Democrat. | ||
| Because they're ashamed. | ||
| You're a fucking Democrat. | ||
| You're going to vote for Bernie Sanders. | ||
| You know what he wants to do with this family? | ||
| Bernie Sanders wants to give all your money to Black Lives Matter. | ||
| You cool with that, son? | ||
| We actually did a show as part of our news thing. | ||
| We had people going back for Thanksgiving. | ||
| And it was the parents who voted for Trump versus the kids who voted for either Hillary or didn't vote or whatever. | ||
| And they were just fighting and crying and freaking out and all this stuff. | ||
| Why did we get to this level of dysfunction? | ||
| It's a problem when you have two sides. | ||
| It's very difficult for two sports teams to meet, say if they meet in neutral territory like Vegas, and the fans get along. | ||
| They're not going to get along. | ||
| People are fools. | ||
| We have tribal instincts. | ||
| We have instincts built into when we were small bands of 50 people that could barely stay alive, and we were often wiped out. | ||
| Often. | ||
| So your genealogy, your family line, all your history, everyone you love could be easily dead in a couple of days. | ||
| So that was my question because it seems to me, what I'm getting the feeling now, like humanity when they have a big thing, like a war or something, it's just like we're all getting together and we're all going to fucking do this together and we're going to, you know, science and we're going to work hard and we're going to do all this and we're like, yeah, fuck. | ||
| And then when, you know, this has been the largest or longest period of peace and prosperity the world's ever known. | ||
| Right now, we see things in Syria. | ||
| I'm talking about sort of, these are sort of isolated conflicts, but I mean, overall, globally. | ||
| And what do we do? | ||
| We're sort of eating ourselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, we're looking inwards and just saying, oh, fuck, I hate that guy. | ||
| I hate that guy. | ||
| Well, even in their parties, they eat themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You pick teams inside your teams. | ||
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| The Tea Party ousted Boehner. | ||
| Black Lives Matter is now mad at the women that put on that women's march. | ||
| And the transgender community is mad at the women who wore the pussy hats. | ||
| Because they're saying that being a woman does not just mean you have a pussy. | ||
| Yeah, but Tea Party came in and ousted... | ||
| Cantor and Boehner because they had the, you know, sort of audacity to even go meet with, you know, the president or the Democrats. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, people are just like, you're like, well, that's your fucking job is to go there and talk to people and make shit happen. | ||
| You don't talk to the fucking enemy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so anyway, we can go on for our, but I think, you know, both you and I are sort of coming to the same point that you can put any name you want on it. | ||
| What you're coming to is a sort of dysfunctional relationship. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not going to end anytime soon. | ||
| What I'm hoping, and this is totally possible, that Generation Y, like you're talking about, Generation X, all these people that are growing up right now and just sort of waking up as adults, like realizing, like half those people that are wandering through the streets when you look at the Women's March, half those people are, you know, in their 20s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're young folks that are just kind of realizing, like, hey, I'm a fucking adult. | ||
| I can go out and organize. | ||
| I can get something done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I am really hoping that this message will get out that it is high time we abandon this fucking goofy system and that we demand a better system for running 350 million people and one figurehead and all of his cronies that he stuffs into some office and has massive influence over all of us. | ||
| I think it's a giant problem. | ||
| It's a giant problem. | ||
| And to keep those people rotating back and forth from left to right, it's not doing anybody any good. | ||
| But I think what's ironic about that is I think you'd have a lot of people agree with you on both sides. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think we need, like, a council of elders. | ||
| Like, we've been talking about this lately a lot. | ||
| Like, having a council of really fucking smart people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Who would you have on, though? | ||
| Who would you have on? | ||
| If you had a council of eight people, who would you put on eight people? | ||
| You don't want seven, because it's probably like satanic or some shit, right? | ||
| Some lucky weird number. | ||
| I mean, you'd need a good doctor, like just for health stuff. | ||
| I like Siddhartha Mukherjee, who wrote The Emperor of All Maladies. | ||
| How about Sanjay Gupta? | ||
| I like that guy. | ||
| I used to hate him and then I liked him. | ||
| I like Siddhartha. | ||
| I think he's a real genius when it comes to stuff like that. | ||
| I think you need a good tech person because I think... | ||
| Elon Musk. | ||
| He's in. | ||
| Elon Musk. | ||
| I'm a big fan of Elon Musk. | ||
| I'm a big fan of Elon as well. | ||
| You know, what he can do... | ||
| On his own is just fucking amazing. | ||
| He's digging a fucking tunnel. | ||
| He's tired of the traffic in LA, so he's digging a giant tunnel. | ||
| I love Elon Musk. | ||
| I love Elon Musk. | ||
| I like the fact that, like, batteries. | ||
| You know, the thing with solar didn't work because fucking storage didn't work. | ||
| So he's like, fuck it, I'm going to make it. | ||
| And he took the Tesla, made the battery thing into a power. | ||
| What else is the best battery in the world? | ||
| You know what else I like about him? | ||
| He married an actress twice with no prenup. | ||
| He married the same actress twice. | ||
| You know what that means? | ||
| That means he drinks and he fucks. | ||
| He drinks and he fucks because that's the only way you make those goddamn decisions. | ||
| You marry that same actress twice with no prenup? | ||
| If he did that, he's an animal. | ||
| He's a savage. | ||
| He's in. | ||
| He's like, I love you. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about a prenup. | ||
| He came inside of her. | ||
| They fucking high-fived. | ||
| That's my kind of guy, and he's making batteries. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Making fucking good batteries. | ||
| He's making good batteries. | ||
| He's making charging stations everywhere. | ||
| We gotta put him in. | ||
| Okay, so we got Elon Musk. | ||
| We got Sanjay Gupta. | ||
| We got your guy. | ||
| But you need a good common sense, like... | ||
| Do we have Al Gore? | ||
| Al Gore, you know, there's a little bit of criticism because of that movie. | ||
| A lot of people think it's important. | ||
| I'm an environmentalist, but I think he's too far over there. | ||
| I think you need to sort of... | ||
| If it was me, you want someone... | ||
| You know who I like? | ||
| I like, there's a guy named Eric Schmidt, and he's the chief, or one of the head NASA scientists. | ||
| And these guys are just super smart dudes, right? | ||
| Men and women, actually, because the chief scientist at NASA, I met as well, and she's fantastic as well. | ||
| But you just need like a common sense... | ||
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| logjams that you must have at a big corporation, say if you worked for Under Armour, the logjams you must have if you want to get something done, they're probably monumental. | ||
| It's probably a million people, you're trying to talk about this and you have to have design meetings and sit down and try new fabric, oh this fucking sucks, let me try this. | ||
| Just imagine that. | ||
| In politics. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Imagine running the country and trillions of dollars involved. | ||
| All these people! | ||
| Did you watch House of Cards? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I wish it was like that. | ||
| Well, maybe it is. | ||
| Well, I was watching, actually, ironically, I was watching the LBJ documentary. | ||
| And what was interesting about that was that, you know, here's this guy who's basically a political mechanic. | ||
| You know, who's sitting there, and everybody wants something. | ||
| Everybody, you know, is trying to get this, and basically, it's completely fucked, and you can't get anything done. | ||
| And the only thing that came across there was he got everything done by lying to everybody, by just saying, I'm going to give you what you want, and I'm going to give you what you want, and I'm going to give you what you want, and then just sort of figuring it out at the end. | ||
| And I was just watching it. | ||
| It was fantastic, because you're like, that's probably the last era When you could actually get shit done. | ||
| And he was like... | ||
| I mean, who knows? | ||
| Because it was a movie. | ||
| But he was just sort of... | ||
| He was like the last of the... | ||
| Because I look at Frank Underwood, and I always call him... | ||
| He was a political mechanic. | ||
| He was the guy who could go get the votes, and he could drum up the votes, and he could do it. | ||
| He reminds me, actually... | ||
| We're talking about the lead figure, Kevin Spacey. | ||
| Kevin Spacey character. | ||
| In House of Cards. | ||
| But he kind of... | ||
| Without the sort of psychopath, you know, sociopath thing. | ||
| He reminds me of Speaker Boehner, because Speaker Boehner was that kind of guy. | ||
| Like, how many votes do we need? | ||
| How do we get it in? | ||
| What do we trade off? | ||
| Like, they get an aircraft carrier plant in Pittsburgh or whatever, and we get this thing. | ||
| You know, but it doesn't happen anymore. | ||
| Those kind of guys don't happen anymore. | ||
| But why not? | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Well, is that preferable to what we've got now? | ||
| I mean, what... | ||
| Well, because shit would actually get done. | ||
| I don't think shit gets done now. | ||
| In fact, they go backwards. | ||
| So, to go back to the Council of Elders, something needs to happen where there's some sort of change because it's not going to fix itself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No one's going to fucking fix. | ||
| In fact, in Washington now, they're saying the biggest thing is the Supreme Court... | ||
| Because everything's so fucked, and everybody realizes it, that everything will have to go up to the Supreme Court and be decided there. | ||
| Because it will not be decided in the Senate, in Congress, or in Executive. | ||
| That's how fucked it is, is that we're going, that's what's really important, because we have to sue each other on everything we want to do. | ||
| Okay, I got another member of our council of elders, Neil deGrasse Tyson. | ||
| Must be in there. | ||
| He has to be in there. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| There's a guy that I would take to, if you're looking at that kind of thing, this guy, Taylor Wilson, he built a fusion reactor in his garage when he was 14. Oh, yeah, I heard that story. | ||
| They found him, right? | ||
| Yeah, I interviewed him. | ||
| They found the reactor, like there was some sort of a reading they were getting. | ||
| No, he was taking energy off the grid in massive amounts. | ||
| Right, that's what it was, right? | ||
| Yeah, and then the government sort of took him, and now he's got his own lab, so he's a fantastic guy. | ||
| But that's how they found him, right? | ||
| Like there was some crazy power drain or something? | ||
| I mean, I shouldn't talk because I don't know the actual story. | ||
| But I remember they were like, well... | ||
| I mean, they know because he was getting the materials and all the stuff. | ||
| Taylor's nukesite. | ||
| This kid's out of his mind. | ||
| But he was actually... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| When he was 14, he was getting... | ||
| He was plotting uranium mines. | ||
| He figured out if you put like, you know, a white bottle with a thing in it that says you could plot the... | ||
| And he would go get uranium, refine their uranium on his own into yellow cake, and then make this fusion reactor. | ||
| What kind of cancer does he have? | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| What kids have in mind? | ||
| But he's, you know, he's got all the sort of gear on when he does... | ||
| There's a bunch of gear? | ||
| You know, he's an expert. | ||
| But anyway... | ||
| He's 14! | ||
| But the whole thing with him now... | ||
| Well, now he's 23. But the thing is, he's into dark matter, dark energy, and he's going around the Hydron Collider and CERN. And I'm just like, this kid... | ||
| I don't know if we talked about this. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| So he came up with... | ||
| Looks like a girl. | ||
| Is that him? | ||
| Yeah, that's him when he was young. | ||
| The reason why I like him so much is he came up with a fail-safe reactor, a little tiny one, and he's like, with all the sort of the old... | ||
| Power plants? | ||
| No, yeah, they're spent waste. | ||
| And the weapons that we have to store, which we can't store for more than 100 years, but they need to be stored for 10,000 years, he can take little pea-sized bits of that, put it into a fail-safe reactor that sort of drains into a salt thing, whatever, and it can't be, whatever, it's fail-safe. | ||
| They're small, but they do like 50,000 houses or 100,000 houses. | ||
| And just by using the fuel that we already have that we can't store, we can power the world for the next 10,000 years. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| So when I hear this, and this is his thing, and by the way, he's being backed by Elon and all the big names and whatever, but the thing is, I'm like, I want that kid on my side. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| I want that kid to sit there and say, how about we don't, like, Eric Schmidt's going to say, not Eric Schmidt, what's his name? | ||
| Shit, Eric Schmidt is a goof. | ||
| Anyway, somebody Schmidt from NASA. Dr. Schmidt is going to say, hey, we need to reduce emissions by 80% and we're all going to die. | ||
| And then Taylor goes, got it! | ||
| We do these little reactors and we eat up all the old warheads and we're done. | ||
| Yeah, they can turn them into batteries that last for... | ||
| Pull that up. | ||
| They turn them into batteries made out of diamonds that last for thousands of years. | ||
| And so you just want somebody to say, got it, here it is, we roll it out, boom. | ||
| Well, it's always made sense to me that if we're putting carbon out in the atmosphere, and carbon's valuable for construction and a lot of different things, there's got to be a way to... | ||
| Biofuels. | ||
| So if you want to do biofuels, it's all carbon. | ||
| You need CO2 to inject into the biofuels. | ||
| And you're like... | ||
| Refine the carbon out of the goddamn atmosphere. | ||
| So when they make biodiesel with like corn and shit like that? | ||
| There's the one that use algae. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| See if you can pull up Taylor's reactor thing. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| That would kind of solve all of our problems. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, it really would. | ||
| As soon as we no longer have any emissions. | ||
| It's like his reactor that uses the spent... | ||
| He did a TED Talk on it. | ||
| Anyway, so we need him. | ||
| Because whenever I'm around him, I feel better about humanity. | ||
| Because I'm like, this is so devastating and I don't know how to fix it. | ||
| He goes, well, the science is there. | ||
| You can do it tomorrow. | ||
| You're just going to... | ||
| And you're like... | ||
| Oh, how do we get that done? | ||
| We've got to keep that 23-year-old kid away from pussy. | ||
| That's what we've got to do. | ||
| We've got to keep him productive. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Because some girl that wrecked Elon Musk, that same type of guy, should get a hold of him. | ||
| Elon's doing well. | ||
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Elon's doing well. | |
| Elon's strong. | ||
| We don't know about this boy. | ||
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He's good. | |
| We don't know about his resolve. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| Some of them, we lose some good ones. | ||
| We lost Nikola Tesla to a pigeon. | ||
| You need like a philosopher king, kind of like big picture, globalist, globalist. | ||
| I want Sam Harris on the board. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Sam Harris. | ||
| He must be. | ||
| Council of Elders. | ||
| A lot of people right now on Reddit. | ||
| Boo! | ||
| On Twitter. | ||
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Boo! | |
| It's interesting. | ||
| Who is someone that's just got a big picture, understands everything, is going to sort of smooth out everything? | ||
| It's really hard to find people like that. | ||
| It's really hard to find people that are open to the facts, that are willing to change their mind, aren't attached to their ideas, and willing to look at every side of things before they form an opinion. | ||
| Most people don't have the time to do that. | ||
| That's part of the issue. | ||
| Part of the issue, I think, when anyone's talking about anything related to the environment or politics or gender or race or anything is there's only so much fucking time in the world, so it's so much easier to form this prejudiced opinion or this predetermined opinion on everything across the board, which is why, like, being on the right is so popular. | ||
| It's so easy to dismiss everybody as a bunch of babies and shit on them, you know? | ||
| It's much easier to shit on things than to say, here's a solution. | ||
| Much easier. | ||
| That's why I like Taylor. | ||
| I'm like, this fucking kid, like, He's just like, not only is the science there, we can do this, this, this, and this. | ||
| And I'm like, well, why don't we do that? | ||
| And he goes, politics, money, this, that. | ||
| Elon Musk could have a baby. | ||
| Drill. | ||
| Start drilling. | ||
| Have a fucking tube that goes straight through the magma. | ||
| It's interesting that we cannot think, between the two of us, of someone who could just be, you know... | ||
| Someone who's just wise. | ||
| Acceptable and believable, and people will just go, okay, I get it. | ||
| Someone who's really wise. | ||
| They don't necessarily have to be the smartest person in the world. | ||
| And also, they can convey, this is what we're doing, this is why we're doing it. | ||
| Because you need a communicator. | ||
| Because Taylor and Elon are not going to be communicating You know, the batteries and the physics behind, you know, the little peas and the thing. | ||
| I mean, you need someone to say, this is what we're doing. | ||
| This is why we're doing it. | ||
| This is why everybody in the world. | ||
| Like, who is the best, most believable politician in the last 50 years? | ||
| Who is going to be that person? | ||
| Jimmy Carter? | ||
| Globally. | ||
| Globally. | ||
| It's funny about Jimmy Carter because I've never met anyone as sort of quick. | ||
| You know, he's like, I don't know how old, he's 94 now or something. | ||
| He's so fast and he's got the stats, he's got the whatever. | ||
| And he looks and he sounds like the perfect president. | ||
| He was destroyed when he was in power. | ||
| He was just vilified. | ||
| So you're like, he was a great smart guy. | ||
| He should have been like a Secretary General of the UN or something. | ||
| I don't know about presidents. | ||
| He was, as his character, like how he presents himself, he was not like a firm leader character. | ||
| You know, he was a kind gentleman from Georgia, a peanut farmer. | ||
| And a smart, just a genuinely smart dude with a good... | ||
| Like, moral center. | ||
| He was worked, and he was worked towards the end by the Reagan administration when they were coming in, the Reagan campaign, because they were the first campaign to ever use the rights connection to Christianity. | ||
| This is the first time they had organized the hardcore religious base. | ||
| Right, even though... | ||
| He was a pastor. | ||
| They got him. | ||
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I know. | |
| It's kind of crazy. | ||
| It's kind of crazy. | ||
| Very religious guy. | ||
| But Reagan and the Republicans connected themselves to these crazy televangelists and Christian church and Jerry Falwell. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's how W got elected. | ||
| Because he could get out the evangelical base. | ||
| So they worked him there. | ||
| They worked him there. | ||
| And Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor. | ||
| He was a much better public speaker. | ||
| He was much stronger. | ||
| He had slick back hair like a goddamn comic book from the 50s. | ||
| I mean, he looked the role. | ||
| Yeah, because he was... | ||
| Like, the president, in many cases, is the Queen of England. | ||
| It's a ceremonial thing. | ||
| And that's why I'm saying you need a communicator who can sort of get things across... | ||
| But nobody really believed Carter, and half the country didn't believe Reagan, or they believed him after he was gone, because everyone's like... | ||
| Well, it's convenient to love Reagan now, but I remember, and you remember, when we were kids... | ||
| That's what punk rock started in America, was because Reagan got in, and we all went fucking New York hardcore and all that shit. | ||
| But, you know, it's a shame that we cannot think... | ||
| It doesn't have to be America. | ||
| What about, like, in the world? | ||
| Isn't there somebody in the world, in the fucking world? | ||
| Hard-pressed. | ||
| Hard-pressed to find a prominent public figure that really stands out like that. | ||
| That's pretty interesting. | ||
| Deepak Chopra! | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Oh, the other thing that Carter got fucked on was the hostages. | ||
| They had negotiated the release of the hostages to make sure that it was done once Reagan was in office and not before that. | ||
| And they had kept those fucking American citizens over there. | ||
| I mean, this is a proven conspiracy. | ||
| They kept those American citizens over there longer than they had to be because they wanted to make sure that it all looked good. | ||
| You had that happen, which was not good. | ||
| You also had, I mean, there's also an economic timing issue, and you had this oil crisis, and you had a recession, you have all these bad things happening, and you're like, well, that's Carter's fault. | ||
| And it was also when they ruined American cars. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| They all turned to shit. | ||
| American cars in the 1960s, up until the early 70s, were fucking awesome. | ||
| Yeah, they were the best. | ||
| They were the coolest looking cars, and to this day, they're like the biggest collector cars, like Barracudas and Corvettes and all those old cars. | ||
| As soon as that gas crisis hit, man, those cars turned to shit. | ||
| Well, also, same thing, every time there's a gas crisis, so that's when the Japanese cars became popular, that's when they became popular. | ||
| It's the exact same thing. | ||
| You know, the SUVs were the highest sellers before the last oil crisis, or when they went through the roof, and then that's when the Prius, they couldn't make them fast enough. | ||
| It was exactly the same thing that happened in the late 70s. | ||
| So I think, anyway... | ||
| But the Prius is a far better car than the 1980s Mustang. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's like taking, they took one of the best cars ever, like from Steve McQueen, Bullet, remember that movie? | ||
| Fuck yeah, that was a 68, I think it was a 68 Mustang. | ||
| Goddamn, it was a gorgeous piece of metal. | ||
| And they turned that into these 1980s things. | ||
| They were like, what in the fuck happened? | ||
| What did you do? | ||
| I look at a lot of stuff and say, what the fuck was going on? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Like the late 70s Mustang. | ||
| Find like a... | ||
| That's the shit. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That's the Bullitt Mustang. | ||
| That's the Steve McQueen 68 Fastback. | ||
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I like the Mach 1. I like them all. | |
| I love them. | ||
| There's something about American muscle cars from the 60s and the early 70s. | ||
| Oh, the Bullitt Mustang. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| Fucking Steve McQueen, baby. | ||
| Look at that goddamn car. | ||
| So you go from that, now type up 1980 Mustang. | ||
| Be prepared to throw up. | ||
| Get ready to puke. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| What in the fuck is that hunk of shit? | ||
| It's like a gay car. | ||
| How the fuck? | ||
| How the fuck? | ||
| Nobody wants that car. | ||
| That car is worth three cents. | ||
| Nobody wants that fucking car. | ||
| I think actually people who like Logan's Run and all that stuff, like those old 70s futurists, they would like it. | ||
| No, even them. | ||
| Even those dummies. | ||
| They just made some terrible fucking cars in the late 70s and put that away. | ||
| You're making me throw up. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Something happened. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| So on our Council of Elders, we don't have one politician. | ||
| No, we can't have one of those. | ||
| So we got some good doctors. | ||
| We got some good scientists. | ||
| We got a tech guy. | ||
| We got some visionaries. | ||
| We probably need more than one tech guy. | ||
| Who else do we need? | ||
| Probably going to need some tech guy to balance out Elon. | ||
| Elon might get a little wacky. | ||
| Start sending people to Mars and shit. | ||
| Now, here's the other thing, is the Council of Elders for the world or for the country, because then you also need some military dudes to say, we can't. | ||
| The one thing that is sort of, whatever, a truism, is that you have to preach that sort of There is no democracy without safety. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And you have to have guaranteed sort of protection. | ||
| And if you look at Europe, it's quite interesting because when they sort of said, okay, we're going to protect this area and there's an economic benefit for this area, you had all the little groups start to say like Scotland or the Basque countries or Catalonia or all these different say, well, we want to split off. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because it's more democratic to have smaller sort of runnable countries that – and they're like, well, we want to have our own thing because we'll be part of this bigger thing, but we want to be more democratic. | ||
| And I think that's quite interesting because you have these supranational political entities that sort of guarantee safety and economic security, and then therefore it's much more democratic. | ||
| So you sort of sit there and say, okay, well, if that's the case, then you have to have that guaranteed security. | ||
| So how do you do that? | ||
| Well, this is the ultimate goal, and this is going to take several generations. | ||
| End all nations. | ||
| Treat each other now, because we are so big and we are so connected, treat each other now as one organism, one gigantic superorganism, the human race. | ||
| End all this country bullshit. | ||
| Difficult to do. | ||
| Well, insanely, almost impossible to do. | ||
| I'm saying and I know it. | ||
| Unless there's a... | ||
| See, what I was going to go back to is, like, we're great at, like, war. | ||
| Like, when there's a war, oh, fuck, we've got to go get them, you know. | ||
| What if, or let's say, so I view it like this, but, like, let's say there's a fucking asteroid coming towards us. | ||
| Like, we're going to put all over the global, you know, like a movie. | ||
| We're going to put everybody, the smartest guys, the Russian guys, and the Chinese guys, and us, and everybody's going to go up and do this thing. | ||
| So if that's the case, and I always say humans aren't going to move unless we have a gun to our head. | ||
| But at some point what happens is, let's say Greenland, a big chunk, four feet, Miami goes away. | ||
| And everybody goes, oh shit, now we got to do something. | ||
| At that point, everybody goes, okay. | ||
| Because if Miami goes away, Shanghai goes away. | ||
| So Shanghai goes away, Mumbai goes away. | ||
| And so if you're sitting there, you go, okay, everybody's going to get together and say, shit. | ||
| The ocean's rising. | ||
| We've got to do something. | ||
| We've got to do something right now. | ||
| But there's always going to be people that are ignoring that and profiting. | ||
| Somebody else is going to take care of it. | ||
| Let's start drilling. | ||
| And they're going to do that. | ||
| They're going to do that short term. | ||
| Don't you think, though, that if Mumbai goes away, Miami goes away, New York goes away, whatever, all the sea, the big sea next to the sea cities go away. | ||
| Now, this is interesting, because when we were shooting this doc on Sea Level Rise, One of the things that's damning to oil companies is they're like, well, we didn't know. | ||
| Science has not decided. | ||
| We didn't fucking know. | ||
| While this was happening, they raised, spending hundreds of millions of dollars, more, billions of dollars, they raised all their oil platforms by eight feet. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they didn't want them getting sunk. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| The outside prediction... | ||
| So they have to last 80 years for insurance, you know, for the life of things. | ||
| So the outside prediction for 100 years was 8 feet. | ||
| That's 4 feet. | ||
| It's 3 feet to 4 feet, and then the outside is 8 feet. | ||
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So they're like, okay, we'll just do 8 feet. | |
| So they know. | ||
| So they know. | ||
| If you don't raise something and pay hundreds of millions of dollars to raise it eight feet, why eight feet? | ||
| Why not four feet? | ||
| Why not three feet? | ||
| Why not twelve feet? | ||
| In any case, so the thing is, is you sit there and say, okay, eight feet. | ||
| At four feet, Miami's gone. | ||
| New York's gone. | ||
| At eight feet, we're all sitting there going, okay... | ||
| It probably gets to Topanga Canyon. | ||
| We're up here. | ||
| Fucking eight feet. | ||
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| So at that point, humanity goes, holy shit, we need Taylor and we need Elon. | ||
| And so that's an interesting point. | ||
| I think that ultimately what is going to happen, and it may take 100 years, it may take 500 years. | ||
| I think ultimately we're going to reach a technologically driven state of evolution that bypasses our biological evolution. | ||
| So I've got an answer to that. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Half the world will do that. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And the other half the world goes the opposite way. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That's what's happening now. | ||
| But it's not happening now with cell phones. | ||
| Cell phones have gone all over the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if we can achieve a technology that allows people to understand each other in a way that's way deeper and more intimate... | ||
| Then just getting to know somebody, they talk to you, you talk to me. | ||
| You and I have been friends for a long time now, and every time I see you, I give you a big hug. | ||
| I know I see Shane, I'm going to give him a hug. | ||
| I associate you with my friend. | ||
| It's happiness. | ||
| We have a lot of great talks. | ||
| We get drunk together. | ||
| And that's all built in. | ||
| But it takes a while to establish that, right? | ||
| It takes a while to make a bond between two people who enjoy each other's company. | ||
| I think this whole world could be a bunch of friends. | ||
| It sounds crazy, but it can be done. | ||
| It can be done in small groups. | ||
| It can be done in this room. | ||
| It can be done in this town. | ||
| I think it can be done if we're facing extinction. | ||
| I don't think it can be done otherwise, because what I see happening, to go back to if we don't have war, like global war, we have this eating ourselves thing. | ||
| And if you look at the world, you have half the world, roughly. | ||
| Saying, technology can fix us. | ||
| We're going to go to Mars. | ||
| We're going to have little pellets of things which are going to feed 50 houses. | ||
| We're going to do this. | ||
| And then you have the other half of the world that's saying, fuck reading. | ||
| You know, fuck technology. | ||
| We're going back to, you know, another time. | ||
| And not just the Muslim world. | ||
| You have lots of different groups in Africa. | ||
| You have lots of different groups in obviously the Middle East. | ||
| You have different groups who are saying, fuck that. | ||
| We're not doing that. | ||
| And so they're moving away from it. | ||
| So you have this sort of duopoly in the world of people who are going one way and then people who are going the other way. | ||
| And I don't think that unless you have a common goal, which is, by the way, we're all going to die unless we do this, that everybody does it. | ||
| And it's like Star Trek. | ||
| In Star Trek, they did this thing where everybody from the world is finally together and then we're all working together for this great thing, which is exploring space. | ||
| But they needed that whole... | ||
| You know, focus that goal. | ||
| And I think we need that focus and that goal, which is why, again, to go back to war zones, when you go to war zones, you say, oh shit, we shouldn't be fucking dropping bombs on each other. | ||
| And then when you go and talk to scientists, they go, oh, it's coming. | ||
| And it's coming fucking now. | ||
| And I'm not like this crazy dude or whatever. | ||
| I'm just a regular dude going, oh shit, it's because I talked to these scientists. | ||
| Like we just did this thing in Russia. | ||
| Where, I don't know if you know about this, but the permafrost, have you heard about the permafrost? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All the carbon in the permafrost. | ||
| It's released. | ||
| It's going to be released. | ||
| It's melting. | ||
| And so it releases carbon. | ||
| It actually releases methane, which is 20 times worse than carbon. | ||
| And there's more carbon... | ||
| In the permafrost than all of the carbon that we've released since the Industrial Revolution started. | ||
| Because it's a bunch of dead things that have died up there for millions of years. | ||
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| And all that's going to get warmed up. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And it's going to be a bunch of stinky dead bodies and animal shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you want to know two interesting things about that? | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| I got two interesting things about that. | ||
| One is, we went up to lakes in both Russia and the Arctic, and you pop a hole in the lake, and you put a torch in front, and it shoots out like an oil flare. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh, I've seen that. | ||
| Because there's methane in the lake, in the water, and it's just shooting out like an oil flare, and you're like, what the fuck? | ||
| A. B, this is going to sound crazy, but it's actually fucking true. | ||
| So we go to Siberia and we hang out with this dude who's been living in the permafrost. | ||
| He's like the world's biggest expert on permafrost. | ||
| Is he a scientist? | ||
| A scientist. | ||
| And there's all these slumps. | ||
| They have the biggest slump in the world. | ||
| A slump? | ||
| So it's where the permafrost melts. | ||
| And the permafrost is like frozen ground, like dirt and shit. | ||
| It's also frozen water. | ||
| And so when it melts, the water goes away, and the ground, which is left, sort of slumped. | ||
| And it goes down like 20 or 30 feet. | ||
| And so you just have these, all over Siberia, you have these huge, like, two, three, four mile wide, just like, craters. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| You know? | ||
| And so... | ||
| He's there and he's like the sort of foremost expert. | ||
| And what's interesting about it is he goes, look, in the Ice Age, here's what happened. | ||
| There were not that many humans, but there were millions upon millions of animals. | ||
| And there were like elk and there were, you know, caribou and all this shit. | ||
| And there were woolly mammoths. | ||
| You know what they did? | ||
| They ate all the fucking shrubs and the trees and shit, which actually, you know, made the ground... | ||
| It'll freeze much deeper because, you know, there's a lot of things like dark sort of, you know, brings in heat and it, you know, takes the insulation away, all this stuff. | ||
| Because the foliage is not there anymore, so the sun beats directly down the earth. | ||
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| And so, anyways, he... | ||
| No, because the trees bring in the heat and hold it in. | ||
| It freezes more in the winter and then therefore stays colder. | ||
| In any case... | ||
| So he's like, look, here's what we have to do. | ||
| We have to put millions of caribou and millions of horses and millions of elk and stuff up in Siberia. | ||
| But he goes, that'll get you 60% of the way there. | ||
| The only thing that'll get us really there is the fucking woolly mammoth. | ||
| Now, this is not a joke. | ||
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| So, ironically, they found a woolly mammoth perfectly preserved in the permafrost. | ||
| Like, it fell into a fucking lake and froze and never... | ||
| Thought out. | ||
| Thought out. | ||
| So, when they opened it up, it still had red cells, like living cells. | ||
| So, you know what they're doing? | ||
| We shot this, and I was watching this with my mouth on the ground. | ||
| They're cloning... | ||
| The woolly mammoths. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Woolly mammoth skin found well preserved in permafrost gives new hope for climate. | ||
| Look up the trunk. | ||
| Look up the trunk. | ||
| They have a full... | ||
| Jesus, look at it. | ||
| Look it up there, though. | ||
| Look at that image. | ||
| But they have a full trunk. | ||
| Look up the woolly mammoth trunk. | ||
| Because they have this full trunk that they're... | ||
| No, that's a tusk. | ||
| No, they have a trunk. | ||
| Like they have a full trunk. | ||
| In any case, they're trying to clone using elephants. | ||
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| Don't write tusk. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Oh, you wrote trunk? | ||
| Why did it pull up tusk hunters for the first thing? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| They're trying to... | ||
| Anyway, so they're cloning... | ||
| With the South Koreans, they're cloning mammoths in the hopes that they're just going to put all these clones of mammoths up there and it's going to freeze the permafrost. | ||
| Wouldn't it just make more shit and more dead animals, which makes more methane? | ||
| I'm so confused. | ||
| Well... | ||
| The amount that they would make versus the amount of methane that's going to be released from the permafrost, which has been collecting this shit for fucking millions of years, is de minimis. | ||
| So the idea is, they're going to go up there, they're going to eat the fuck out of all the vegetation, and that will cool the area down. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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| Why don't they just make ice cubes and just dump them out of helicopters? | ||
| That seems like just as good of an idea. | ||
| There's another guy we need for our council is this fucking crazy Russian dude who's just up there saying, fuck it, let's get some mammoths to fix us. | ||
| And that'll get you 60% of the way there, but still 40% fucked. | ||
| No, with mammoths we get 90%. | ||
| Oh, so the elk and the deer will get you 60%? | ||
| There it is. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| There's the trunk. | ||
| Wow, that is so crazy. | ||
| See? | ||
| Yeah, they have a good chance of successfully cloning. | ||
| They have South Koreans and the Russians. | ||
| And the Russians are moving very fast on this because they realize that if permafrost melts, they're screwed. | ||
| So do they keep this thing in a frozen room? | ||
| They do. | ||
| We filmed it. | ||
| We filmed them trying to clone it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What a crazy time to be alive. | ||
| That is so amazing. | ||
| Because what's amazing about that is you're like, oh, we're fucked. | ||
| The permafrost is going to melt. | ||
| We're all doomed. | ||
| And then you're like, but we can get some fucking woolly mammoths. | ||
| If we're going to get mammoths, we need to make saber-toothed tigers, too, just for the fuck of it. | ||
| Well, there could be an argument there because you're like, well... | ||
| Who's going to eat the mammoths? | ||
| Because we actually talked to NASA and said, is this guy crazy? | ||
| Is he like Don Quixote, like tilting that windmill? | ||
| And he said, actually, the environmental or the organic solution, rather than dropping ice cubes at a helicopter, is the best solution because it used to be that 40,000 years ago this shit regulated itself, and this is when the planet was cold. | ||
| Now it's too fucking hot. | ||
| So this is a way to get back to being cold, so it actually makes sense. | ||
| Wow, we need that guy. | ||
| We need that dude. | ||
| He's on our council. | ||
| We need some people from other countries that are going to get mad at us. | ||
| Because, well, maybe we shouldn't. | ||
| Maybe we should just have our fucking country figure this out. | ||
| Maybe it's too impossible. | ||
| Maybe it's too much wheel spinning to fix the world. | ||
| I think you need other people. | ||
| We need some chicks. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Gotta get some chicks on there. | ||
| Chicks are going to get pissed. | ||
| They're already marching, dude. | ||
| We need chicks on our council. | ||
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Dude, I agree. | |
| Who do we got? | ||
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Mmm. | |
| Nobody. | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
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Come on. | |
| Oprah? | ||
| Oprah. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| You know what Oprah's good at? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You just hit the nail on the head. | ||
| Because she's great at sort of... | ||
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Super popular. | |
| No, she's great at getting a message across. | ||
| She's great at saying, hey, this is the thing, and this is why it's happening. | ||
| So Taylor goes, oh shit, you know, we've got this reactor that we can do that costs 10 bucks. | ||
| And then she goes, okay, this is why we're doing it. | ||
| Okay, so who else? | ||
| What other checks? | ||
| Oprah's very good. | ||
| I like that as our politician. | ||
| Wouldn't we get mad when you call them chicks yet? | ||
| Is that still okay? | ||
| When do I become a pig for calling them chicks? | ||
| Yeah, it's not good. | ||
| It's not good to call them chicks? | ||
| Why is it good to call Joe Biden a dude? | ||
| He's a good dude. | ||
| Isn't that alright? | ||
| Yeah, he's a good dude. | ||
| So why isn't it okay to call Hillary Clinton? | ||
| Well, she's a fiery chick. | ||
| I think it's good when you're calling people like, you know, with their buddies and their friends and stuff. | ||
| What about anyone under 30? | ||
| I'm not getting into it. | ||
| Can we call women under 30 chicks? | ||
| I think they like it. | ||
| But I think we need another international, we need an international person. | ||
| Ayaan Hirsi Ali? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She would be amazing with foreign relations and understanding people of religious ideologies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| Now the super liberals get mad at you for that. | ||
| She's an Islamophobe! | ||
| Isn't that hilarious? | ||
| Have you read any of the criticisms of her? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's people that just go so far left. | ||
| They've spun around and their nose is up the right's ass. | ||
| They're so confused. | ||
| Well, that's the one thing is the left goes so far left that the right and the right's going so far. | ||
| Everyone's going crazy. | ||
| Everyone battles it out. | ||
| You know, it's like this Black Lives Matter going after the Women's March thing. | ||
| Like, everybody relax. | ||
| On one hand, though, I got to admit, though, I read the thing and I was like, why would they complain about people supporting this Women's March? | ||
| Why would they complain about something good? | ||
| And then the other part of me went, well, imagine if you were them. | ||
| Imagine if you were them, you're protesting against people getting shot and killed by cops, and you're trying to make a movement out of that, and you don't get near the kind of traction, nor near the kind of positive press. | ||
| Then, the other part of me goes back to the Women's March, you go, you know what's crazy about the Women's March? | ||
| Not a single fucking arrest all across the country. | ||
| Yeah, it was apparently super good vibes. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And cops were wearing pink hats. | ||
| That's pretty good. | ||
| With cat ears. | ||
| They're called pussy hats. | ||
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| Get it? | ||
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Meow. | |
| So they have these fucking cats were wearing, or cops, rather, were wearing them. | ||
| And women were taking pictures with these cops. | ||
| I think that's important because, you know, you sit there and you say, okay, look, you know, people can do this and we can do it peacefully and we can do it rationally. | ||
| And we're all, at the end of the day, we're all... | ||
| In the same boat. | ||
| And we're all just people. | ||
| Do you think there's enough people that aren't racist that you could pull something like that off? | ||
| Do you think it's more common to be racist than it is to be sexist? | ||
| You know? | ||
| I will say the universe does things for a reason, I think. | ||
| And I have two amazing daughters, and it changed my life. | ||
| And it changed the way I view the world, and it changed the way I see things. | ||
| And that's why I look at that march, and I say that's a great thing. | ||
| You know, it definitely, you know, it alters, you know, how you think about things, for sure. | ||
| It also alters how you think about the future, because a lot of people are like, fuck Lobo Ryan, it's not gonna fucking do anything in my... | ||
| Right. | ||
| But when you have kids, all of a sudden you're like, shit. | ||
| I want my kid to go swimming. | ||
| I want my kid to go outside. | ||
| You don't want to leave him in a nightmare. | ||
| You don't want to leave him in a nightmare. | ||
| We're adults. | ||
| We've got to pick up our own shit here. | ||
| In any case, I think it's a good idea. | ||
| I think we will submit our Council of Elders idea to the world via the internet and see if we get a billion votes, then I think everybody has to adopt it. | ||
| And then we get to sort of be special advisors. | ||
| I seriously think this could actually happen one day. | ||
| It might not happen in our lives. | ||
| You know who's a good politician that people like and would fucking follow in his good vibes? | ||
| Ron Paul. | ||
| Joe Biden. | ||
| Oh, maybe. | ||
| You know, Joe Biden, we used to have Joe Biden night at Stitch's Comedy Club back in Boston where we would plagiarize each other's material because Joe Biden got busted doing Kennedy speeches when he was running for president back in 88. Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody's kind of forgot about that. | ||
| He seems like a fairly decent dude, although a little odd. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're all odd. | ||
| You want a little bit odd, though. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| When they were vice president, you're like, all he has to do is fucking smile. | ||
| You know, nobody blames him for anything. | ||
| The memes are amazing. | ||
| I like the memes. | ||
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Come on. | |
| My favorite one. | ||
| I think that made him... | ||
| If the memes had come out before the election, he could have won that with a... | ||
| My favorite one was Biden throwing his head back laughing. | ||
| He goes, and then I said to Hillary, you did the same thing Monica did. | ||
| You blew it. | ||
| And then Obama says, you know she kills people, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's that picture. | ||
| It's that picture. | ||
| And then they use that with a bunch of them. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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So funny. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| But I think that what I'm saying about technology is... | ||
| I think we're way more connected as human beings than we ever have been before. | ||
| And I think a lot of this crazy super social justice warrior progressive shit that you're seeing today where it's getting... | ||
| The far, far, far outreaches of it are so out of hand. | ||
| I think all of this is possible and all of this is because of this newfound opportunity we have to communicate with each other that just previously just didn't exist. | ||
| So I've got a question for you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, you look at... | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Like, we have this ability to connect all day, every day. | ||
| And we are. | ||
| My point is it's going to get crazier. | ||
| And we are connected. | ||
| It's going to get more and more connected. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This is just the beginning, I think. | ||
| Have you seen this augmented reality business? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Like, you see that and you're like, oh, what we have now is, I mean, rudimentary. | ||
| And that's two years out, three years out. | ||
| And once people start submitting to some sort of a lens in their eye, I mean, that's going to goddamn happen. | ||
| People are already getting lenses in their eyes that repair their vision. | ||
| I have friends that have lenses. | ||
| I have my friend Steve. | ||
| He just got... | ||
| I have two friends, Steve, that have had eye operations. | ||
| But my friend Steve just got a fucking artificial lens. | ||
| He had a ripped cornea and they put an artificial lens over his eye. | ||
| We did a piece on it. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's not even like a martial artist or anything. | ||
| He's just a regular guy that had an eye problem. | ||
| And they're starting to do this on people, and it's going to accelerate. | ||
| They're doing all sorts of crazy shit now. | ||
| Well, when you see augmented reality... | ||
| I don't know if everybody knows what it is, but right now it's glasses. | ||
| And once you get over the fact, which is weird, that it's like holograms inside your eyeball. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, they put them in. | ||
| Now, I'm like, I'm a fucking, like, germaphobe freak. | ||
| And I'm like, oh shit, that's going to give me cancer of the fucking eyeball. | ||
| But apparently it's not. | ||
| But in any case, after you get over that fear, you're like, oh, you put these things on. | ||
| It's this room, right? | ||
| And you're like, oh, there's a TV and you're watching TV in your room. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| And they're like, but it's only a TV because your brain is used to it being a TV. When you get used to it, we'll just flip a button and you're on the 50-yard line. | ||
| It can be anything. | ||
| It can be any size. | ||
| You can do the art in the room. | ||
| Now, that's for TV watching. | ||
| It was developed for a media thing. | ||
| It could be movies or TV. But they're like, oh, it could be your phone, it could be your computer, it could be everything. | ||
| So everything is going to be in your glasses. | ||
| A camera, everything. | ||
| You control it with this little thing. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| So you're going to be... | ||
| You know, all your media is there. | ||
| Your phone is there. | ||
| Your computer is there. | ||
| Everything's there. | ||
| And it's just this connectivity that's always there. | ||
| It's always on. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| Now, there's all kinds of ethical things. | ||
| And how's that going to change humanity? | ||
| All that stuff. | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| It's going to happen because technology is there and it's fucking better than a phone. | ||
| Now, once that connectivity happens, to go back to your point, there's a power in there for positivity and all this stuff. | ||
| But if you look at, for example, social media, you know, one of the things that is destroying Twitter is they can't keep, and by the way, the fake news on Facebook and all this stuff, they can't police it. | ||
| It's too many people. | ||
| It's too many people, too much shit, and it's like bad people, it's this people, and everybody's got an opinion. | ||
| And by the way, when you're across the table, the reason why we eat, the reason why we have feasts, the reason why we do all this shit is because when you're eating together, you form social bonds and all this shit, and you're like, oh, I'm not going to kill you because we had a beer together or whatever. | ||
| But when you don't, and it's just this anonymous, I can say and do whatever the fuck I want, it just becomes like... | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And it becomes fun for people. | ||
| They're Bob-55-2-2-8 asshole, and then they decide to fuck with you. | ||
| It's fun for them. | ||
| It's a little game. | ||
| I was listening to this Radiolab pod. | ||
| No, it was an article I was reading. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| And it was about this guy who had been stalked online by his friend's son. | ||
| And they were, I mean, it got to the point where this guy was just, they were doing all, he was doing all sorts of horrible shit and sending them horrible, evil messages. | ||
| They were terrified. | ||
| They were all having horrible anxiety. | ||
| And it turned out that it was his friend's son. | ||
| Why? | ||
| The FBI found, for fun. | ||
| He didn't think about what he broke down crying when they confronted him and it was it was awful, but it was like wow There's like some sort of weird perverse thing that people enjoy doing just fucking with someone as a game And that all takes place because of that lack of social interaction, right? | ||
| The problem with that is is as those tools let's say augmented reality get more and more powerful than that sort of Unless it's unless we look at that aspect of it. | ||
| We're all fucked Maybe. | ||
| Maybe not, though. | ||
| You and I are going to be able to have this conversation where we're nowhere near each other, exactly the same way that we're having it right now. | ||
| We're going to be able to look at each other in the eye and have this kind of a conversation, and you're going to represent you. | ||
| There's going to be some sort of a video version of you that I will not be able to distinguish from you, and you'll be sitting there right now. | ||
| It won't be much different other than physical contact. | ||
| There's an interesting point though, which is when humans are hungry and thirsty, our immediate reaction is no. | ||
| And when we're fed and when we're a bit boozed up, the reaction is yes, which is why everyone says let's have a business lunch or a business dinner or whatever. | ||
| And also if you look at how we socialize with the family, how we socialize with each other, if you actually look back At your history and say, oh, I'm that guy's buddy, or I'm, you know, my family, whatever. | ||
| If you look back at the majority of the positive memories that you have, they're generally, you know, we got Thanksgiving with the family, or Christmas with this, or we got drunk with this guy, or we had burgers late at night, or whatever it is. | ||
| Because that's, you get these sort of endorphin, you know, rushes, and oh, we're bonding. | ||
| So I think once you take that out, and I, it's interesting, because I was talking to someone the other day, I was saying... | ||
| The more technology gets sophisticated, the more you kind of have to fly. | ||
| Because to have that meeting, like we have the technology, I can call you. | ||
| But now you have to fly and you have to have the meal. | ||
| Because if you're doing a big deal with somebody and you don't do that, even though it doesn't make any sense at all, it's become a thing. | ||
| Everyone's flying way more, ironically, because the technology is seen as... | ||
| Non-effective. | ||
| So is that in the world of business? | ||
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| No kidding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow, I didn't see that coming. | ||
| But it totally makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It completely makes sense. | ||
| I feel much different about people when I meet them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and not meeting them even for a while, even being in communication for a long time without meeting them, you sort of disassociate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't feel the same. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| Totally does. | ||
| Because that's how we interacted forever. | ||
| I wonder if that same feeling will happen when you're dealing with someone in a 3D form, like a hologram that's indistinguishable. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| And it's coming rapidly. | ||
| I mean, the technology's here now. | ||
| It's just how quick can they make it into a thing that everybody can buy? | ||
| Yeah, how quick can they? | ||
| And what form will it take? | ||
| Because we're just extrapolating from what they have right now. | ||
| Who knows what form is going to be available. | ||
| Google already has their contact lens thing. | ||
| And nobody thought this whole thing was going to happen in the first place, this augmented reality. | ||
| This wasn't something discussed 20 years ago. | ||
| It was always virtual reality. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't reality. | ||
| And it might just skip. | ||
| It might just go to augmented. | ||
| It could go to something even crazier than that. | ||
| It could go to some sort of a recreation of life that is imparted into your brain. | ||
| This is literally a hologram that's an individualized hologram on the inside of your eye. | ||
| Yeah, it's like projecting on your eyelid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or on your eyeball. | ||
| Eyeball. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what I'm thinking is something even crazier than that, where you close your eyes and you're transported, you know, like, what was that movie with Arnold's work? | ||
| Total Recall style. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, you just shot into this new place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That seems to me to not be far off. | ||
| I just see where they're going as far as their ability to send signals from brain to brain through the internet. | ||
| Do you want to know what is... | ||
| Being worked on and theoretically possible. | ||
| What? | ||
| So interstellar space travel is hard and impossible because people will die before they get to where they're supposed to be going and all this stuff. | ||
| So, theoretically, what we can do is we can, you know, have clones in other places, and you download your brain into, like, a computer. | ||
| You send that Brain to another computer through laser beam traveling at the speed of light, and then it gets downloaded into the clone on the other side of the thing. | ||
| Now that's obviously highly theoretical. | ||
| You know what's going to happen? | ||
| You're going to have a whole country filled with Donald Trump, like one billion Trumps. | ||
| He's just going to fucking keep recreating himself over and over and over again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And people are going to make more than one version of themselves. | ||
| There's going to be walls everywhere. | ||
| It's gonna be a real problem. | ||
| You come home, there's 15 of you in your house, you know, and they all want to watch the game and scream the same things, and you're competing to see who says the witty shit first. | ||
| Well, this is another interesting thing. | ||
| This is another interesting thing, because technology... | ||
| When we go back to sanity versus insanity. | ||
| So for example, right now we have CRISPR technology where you can edit the genome, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can go in and edit the genome. | ||
| So you can go in and say, well, I want to edit out the cancer thing. | ||
| Like when you're going to have a kid and then you can say, well, hey, they're not going to have downs or they're not going to have the... | ||
| You're like, fuck yeah, that sounds good. | ||
| But, you know, put in cancer and make them, you know, 6'4 and, you know, this and that and the other thing. | ||
| Put out, take out the cancer. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And so because of that, we said, okay, well, we're not going to do that because we're playing God and all this stuff. | ||
| But they have places in China already where they're going to do that. | ||
| Now, if you extrapolate, because they're already experimenting on human fetuses. | ||
| But if you extrapolate and you say, okay, they start doing this and everybody comes out genius plus IQ and seven feet tall and super strong and whatever... | ||
| It's kind of an arms race. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And you're going to say, well, Gattaca be damned, like we're going to have to compete. | ||
| And that's when you don't see like, oh, this technology. | ||
| We're like, when you're logical, say, wow, we can't mess with this. | ||
| Because it's funny because they do things like... | ||
| Oh, they were checking on how butterflies see color, and they used CRISPR to change, like, one thing. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, the butterfly, monarch butterfly, just became all white. | ||
| And, like, they're, you know, things shrunk or whatever. | ||
| Because, like, you're playing God, and you're like, one thing makes all this other shit happen. | ||
| And so, but that's happening now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's happening today. | ||
| They're actually doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And what if they do it with woolly mammoths? | ||
| They say, you know what? | ||
| We could whack this all the way up to 100 if we make a super mammoth. | ||
| And they start making super mammoths with three dicks. | ||
| It's going to be real strange in 100 years. | ||
| I mean, we're not going to be able to see. | ||
| Unless science keeps us alive. | ||
| Well, that's the other thing, is they're saying now, with advances in medicine, that the kids being born today are going to live into their hundreds. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard that, that they're going to live to be 150 years old. | ||
| That's going to be really common. | ||
| But the thing is, that's just saying that today. | ||
| They might come up with something in five years from now that makes people go back, like reverse aging. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| I mean, it's just a process. | ||
| It's a biological process. | ||
| If you can stay alive... | ||
| Long enough for them to figure that out, how to turn it back. | ||
| And, you know, that's the real playing god. | ||
| Turn you back, go back to when you were younger, and then you're going to be a younger you dealing with a new super race that's been developed, where everyone is 300 pounds of solid muscle, and every Olympic wrestling match is between two enormous gorillas. | ||
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| War against the Terminator bots. | ||
| It's going to be incredibly strange. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Aging is reversible, at least in human cells and live mice. | ||
| Changes to gene activity that occur with age can be turned back in new study shows. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Longevity can be turned back. | ||
| I'll tell you what's going to happen. | ||
| Old ladies are going to be out getting dick like crazy. | ||
| That's what's going to be happening. | ||
| They're going to turn 20 and then they're going to be on a rampage. | ||
| They're going to just hit the clubs and fuck everybody. | ||
| Well, I've got to tell you, you know this, that your evolutionary clock stops at 40. At 40, you don't continue on saying, oh, we're going to try this and ourselves will keep on making new shit. | ||
| It just stops. | ||
| And if you could go in and say, I'm going to go to the clinic and keep my evolutionary clock ticking, would you do it? | ||
| Well, anything that made me feel better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how I feel. | ||
| I mean, you know, people say, well, that's really selfish and you'll stay around forever and use up all the resources. | ||
| That's not up to you, bitch. | ||
| And here's the other problem with that. | ||
| Like when 500 years ago, everybody died at 20. You know, nobody fucking lived to be today. | ||
| Like being 49 was impossible back then. | ||
| It was incredibly rare. | ||
| And they were tiny, tiny people. | ||
| Yeah, tiny people that didn't eat that much. | ||
| Yeah, I would do it. | ||
| Yeah, I would do it selfishly. | ||
| Or would I do it? | ||
| I would do it just because it would be a better experience. | ||
| Like if they all of a sudden gave you something and your immune system worked better, your body fat was lower, you had more vitality, you got more things done, you're more energetic, and you don't have to lose any experience. | ||
| You don't have to lose any understanding of the world. | ||
| You don't lose your faculties. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, why wouldn't I do it? | ||
| I'll take vitamins too, stupid. | ||
| That's the thing with technology, is that they're going to try to hold it back, but it's just going to get there. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think they're going to hold it back. | ||
| I don't think they can hold it back. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think the China factor is huge, because I think if China really does start doing that with CRISPR and make these super athletes and super humans and make people that are just infinitely smarter than what we have today, that... | ||
| That also plays into my idea of technology-induced evolution. | ||
| I think symbiotically introduced, where it's like human beings interacting with technology, but I think also that technology being applied to our biological being. | ||
| All that stuff is going to happen. | ||
| Did you ever read Neuromancer? | ||
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| Was that Lovecraft? | ||
| No, it's... | ||
| Look up Neuromancer. | ||
| It's a Canadian guy. | ||
| But he's... | ||
| There it is. | ||
| William Gibson. | ||
| William Gibson. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| 84. Oh, 84. Wow. | ||
| But basically, he sort of foresaw all of this stuff happening. | ||
| And by the way, it's interesting because he gets credited with a lot of the tech stuff because a lot of people who were in college read him and then used those ideas to invent the things that are coming out now. | ||
| Oh, that's cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| I wonder what drugs he took. | ||
| Probably good ones, huh? | ||
| If you ever read it, you're like, holy shit. | ||
| He called it all. | ||
| I feel like I read it, but I think I read it right out of high school. | ||
| It's been so long. | ||
| It's one of those distant ones. | ||
| But I love the fact that these people who are creative people are the ones that have come up with a lot of these ideas. | ||
| There was a thing about H.G. Wells and all the different things that H.G. Wells predicted. | ||
| People would read it and say, actually, that's not so crazy. | ||
| Well, that's how things get started. | ||
| It's just they can't do it. | ||
| All the shit we're talking about now, just you and I talking about potential technologies, those thoughts between people like you and I that are not technologically savvy at all, those thoughts can get into the mind of someone who is, and then they can project that idea in their own way and start working on it. | ||
| It's going to be a huge revolution, and then they'll say, Joe and Shane, the Council of Elders, we made it. | ||
| We made the Council of Elders. | ||
| Imagine if it all boils down, civilization in the future, after the Mad Max days, it all boils down to this conversation. | ||
| It's like the Wild Stallions. | ||
| How's it like the Wild Stallions? | ||
| I agree with you without even thinking about it. | ||
| It's Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| They saved the world. | ||
| Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do we have enough people? | ||
| We only picked one woman. | ||
| We need more women. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| I like Martha Stewart. | ||
| I enjoy her on that Snoop Dogg show. | ||
| She's cool. | ||
| She's a hell of a woman. | ||
| And she also doesn't give a shit. | ||
| Put her in, coach. | ||
| Yeah, she's good. | ||
| She's good. | ||
| She doesn't give a shit. | ||
| I like people who don't give a shit. | ||
| People just threw their fucking papers up in the air. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| He just fucking elected Martha Stewart. | ||
| This guy's an asshole. | ||
| I'm not listening to this podcast anymore. | ||
| I like Martha Stewart because she's been to jail. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| She's fucking down, dude. | ||
| I always say, like, if you've done shit and seen things, then you're a much better ruler than somebody who's never done anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I like her. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So by that logic, who else? | ||
| Who else has done shit and seen things that you like to throw in the mix? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| I mean, it's hard because you're searching your databases. | ||
| There's a lot of different people out there who are sort of admirable. | ||
| Again, I mean, well, there's a lot. | ||
| Yeah, we'd have to really sit down. | ||
| If someone was going to really formulate something along these lines, you'd have to really think it through. | ||
| But, not impossible. | ||
| And a better solution than this fucking mess. | ||
| This presidential mess is ridiculous. | ||
| You know, and it's also, this is going to sound fucked up, but I don't think everybody should be allowed to vote. | ||
| I think you should have to prove in some way that you have an understanding of what you're saying in order to be able to vote. | ||
| The problem with that, of course, is who the hell gets to decide that? | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem. | ||
| But if you have someone who's mentally deranged and they just haven't committed a crime yet and you read what they have to say about life and about people and they're racist and sexist and crazy. | ||
| But here's the problem with that. | ||
| And I agree with you. | ||
| There's a lot of problems with that. | ||
| But it's also problematic because here's the problem that's happening. | ||
| It happens all over the world, but let's say in America. | ||
| Because everybody's up in arms about Trump, and there's protests and all this stuff, and all the media is going, "Can you fucking believe this guy?" And you only realize that that's what the rest of the country was saying every time Obama opened his mouth. | ||
| And so you sit there and say, "Hold on a second here. | ||
| Half the country believes that crazy people in California and New York voted, and then now I in Texas and Oklahoma have to fucking suffer. | ||
| And the other half of the people are saying, hold on a second, these people in Oklahoma and Texas and Ohio... | ||
| Voted and now I have to fucking, you know, listen to all this shit. | ||
| And so that therein lies the rub. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because to go back to it, you say, okay, if... | ||
| Now, hear me out. | ||
| If you had your security and economic security... | ||
| Like, solidified. | ||
| It was there. | ||
| Wouldn't it be more democratic to just say, okay, Texas is Texas and California is... | ||
| That's what it used to be anyways. | ||
| The United States was the state's rights and all this stuff. | ||
| Because the minute it happened, California's like, fuck it. | ||
| That just split off. | ||
| We want our pot. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, it would be interesting because you were talking about with other countries, having small, more manageable groups is more democratic. | ||
| It's more democratic. | ||
| It's more democratic. | ||
| Not a bad idea in the current state that we exist in. | ||
| Not a bad idea to run things that way. | ||
| If it's dysfunctional, in fact, it's worse than dysfunctional, you're just going back to undo what they just did, why wouldn't you just say, fuck it, California's going to go off and do our own thing, and Texas is going to do its thing, and Oklahoma's going to do its thing, and by the way, if you don't like it in Oklahoma, you can move to fucking California. | ||
| Yeah, and how about less reliance? | ||
| Much, much, much, much less reliance on a federal government, because it's not necessary. | ||
| And it doesn't work. | ||
| Yeah, and it doesn't work, but state government does. | ||
| It works better, because it's smaller and more democratic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's sort of tribes. | ||
| As long as we can keep from going to war with each other, you know. | ||
| But that's what you have to do. | ||
| If you guarantee that economic security and you guarantee that sort of, you know, political and military security, then it kind of makes a ton of sense to just say, well, if we're like-minded people in New York or LA or whatever, like, Okay, California. | ||
| What's the stat? | ||
| It's like California would be the eighth largest economy in the world. | ||
| Sixth largest economy in the world. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| Poll shows a third of Californians favor a Cal exit from the U.S. in wake of Trump's election victory. | ||
| And they were just fucking shitting on Texas a few years ago for this idea. | ||
| By the way, I favor it because I live here. | ||
| It's God's country, but all the tech people are here, smart. | ||
| All the food is here, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| All the money's here. | ||
| It's one of the biggest Congress in the world. | ||
| Kim Kardashian's here. | ||
| Kanye West is here. | ||
| We have all of the Kardashians, in fact. | ||
| And you can sit here and say, it's more democratic. | ||
| We can have our weed. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You want to have CBD? Fuck it. | ||
| Let's just do the experiments tomorrow. | ||
| If Italy and France can live close to each other, why can't California and Nevada be different countries? | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's basically the same thing. | ||
| Fucking same thing. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| We'd like to start today the California, I guess it's already started. | ||
| It's already started. | ||
| Yeah, we didn't even have to do it. | ||
| We'll run though. | ||
| Me and you will run. | ||
| What do you want to do? | ||
| On a ticket. | ||
| What do you want to be? | ||
| You want to be president of California? | ||
| I'll be vice president. | ||
| You can be president. | ||
| I'm not going to be fucking president. | ||
| You can be president. | ||
| I'll be Biden. | ||
| I don't even want to be vice president. | ||
| I'll have an honorary position. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We'll be on the Council of Elders. | ||
| We're going to have a Council of Elders. | ||
| I think California's the only one kooky enough to actually say, yeah, fuck it. | ||
| We might make it, dude. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| We might win. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In this new era. | ||
| In this new era? | ||
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We can win. | |
| You can't be president. | ||
| You're Canadian. | ||
| You're American now. | ||
| We have to change the laws. | ||
| But if we do, you're going to have to battle Arnold. | ||
| Because Arnold is immediately going to want to run for president. | ||
| But it's California. | ||
| California will allow it. | ||
| A little wink. | ||
| A little wink. | ||
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California will allow it. | |
| You can be president of California. | ||
| Well, you can be governor of California, obviously. | ||
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Arnold works. | |
| Sure. | ||
| I can be governor and then switch it over. | ||
| Or, yeah, well, when it becomes a country, then we say, well, fuck all this being born here. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| You have nothing to do with where you're born. | ||
| Doesn't have anything to do with where you're born. | ||
| Yeah, you didn't ask to be born in Canada. | ||
| If you did, if you could take it back, would you be born here in God's country? | ||
| If you could take it back, if you could denounce your Canadian birthright. | ||
| No, I'll tell you why. | ||
| I'm going to show you my phone case first. | ||
| I want you to think about that. | ||
| Because I think the American experience, ironically, is an immigrant experience. | ||
| I am literally the American dream. | ||
| You are. | ||
| I came here as an immigrant. | ||
| You're more American than me. | ||
| I came here as an immigrant. | ||
| I killed it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it here. | ||
| I love California. | ||
| I'm like, this is fucking awesome. | ||
| I say it to everybody. | ||
| Everybody shits on me. | ||
| I'm like, fuck you. | ||
| But look, growing up in Canada, I'm going to say it. | ||
| Great country. | ||
| Clean. | ||
| Great schools. | ||
| Nicer. | ||
| Nice people. | ||
| People are really nice. | ||
| Great. | ||
| But what I believe... | ||
| 20% less douchebags. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| I think. | ||
| But I believe that... | ||
| It doesn't fucking matter where you're born. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| Like, you know what? | ||
| If you're good and you're smart and whatever, and you rise to the top, you're hardworking. | ||
| You know, this was a country built by immigrants, and then all of a sudden they're saying, well, they were the good ones, now there's bad ones. | ||
| Yeah, and even better, because you were born in Canada, you can't be president, which is a shit job in the first place. | ||
| So it makes you the ultimate American. | ||
| I don't want to be president. | ||
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You're like, hey, I'd love to be president and fix this mess, but I can't do it, guys. | |
| Can't do it. | ||
| I was born in the wrong piece of dirt. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| I mean, you literally could fucking drive in a couple of hours from where you were into America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I am connected to Delaware in some way. | ||
| We're both in the same country. | ||
| Well, you, where you were living in Canada, is way fucking closer to the United States than me to Delaware. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all the same shit. | ||
| It's all the same landmass. | ||
| Correcto. | ||
| Goddammit, we're stupid. | ||
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Yes. | |
| But you're more American than me, man. | ||
| You're an actual immigrant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was just lucky. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got lucky that my grandparents' parents, my great-grandparents were like, fuck Italy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they moved over when my grandparents were little. | ||
| And Ireland, too. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| My grandfather, great-grandfather on my father's side. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| They all just said, fuck this place. | ||
| And they brought their kids over, and they had to figure out this new thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was a new thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was a new thing. | ||
| Wide open. | ||
| Wide open. | ||
| I mean, it's still kind of a new thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at the history of the world. | ||
| Well, look at it, though. | ||
| Like, the tech world, everyone's coming from everywhere to here now, Silicon Beach. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And you're like, that's a fucking great thing. | ||
| It is a great thing. | ||
| Because you're getting all the best and smartest people coming here and giving us their knowledge. | ||
| And you're like, why is that? | ||
| That's fucking great. | ||
| You know what's really interesting, too, is they're almost universally leaning left. | ||
| If you look at all these powerful tech giants, and even social media companies like Facebook and Apple, they almost predominantly lean left despite the fact that they're worth billions of fucking dollars and they're a main driving force. | ||
| I think that this is my problem, because I don't know if they're leaning left necessarily. | ||
| Backing things that are perceived as left-leaning. | ||
| Like, for example, if you have a fucking brain, and you've talked to scientists, and you've read, and you're like, oh shit, we're up against the wall. | ||
| Like, I always say humans won't do anything to tell the fucking guns to the head. | ||
| The guns to the fucking head. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, if you talk to any of these people, it's like, okay... | ||
| Yes, how do we fucking fix this? | ||
| The fact that that's left or liberal, that's stupid, right? | ||
| And I don't understand it. | ||
| The other thing is you go on to pot, for example. | ||
| We all know where it's going. | ||
| Or if you want to talk about, for example, the Women's March, on civil rights, we all know where we're fucking going. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you grew up as we did in the fucking modern age, civil rights, okay, we're not fucking going backwards. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How the fuck that became a fucking left thing, too? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| How is it, I mean, how is it not a right thing as well? | ||
| It should be one thing where we all meet in the window. | ||
| One thing where we meet 100% in the middle and go, look, there can't be racism anymore. | ||
| It doesn't make any fucking sense. | ||
| It's too old. | ||
| It's too stupid. | ||
| It's just an archaic, monkey way of thinking. | ||
| It's back to our primate, tribal roots. | ||
| The fact that it's still on the fucking table. | ||
| Is this stupid? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| And I feel the same way about gay rights. | ||
| I feel the exact same way. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| If you have a real problem with- I got a gay neighbor, these folks that live down the street, they have a kid, they adopted a kid, they have a fucking dog they walk by, they're the nicest fucking people in the world. | ||
| I feel like- What the fuck do you care? | ||
| They're family. | ||
| What the fuck do you care? | ||
| Why would anybody care? | ||
| Why would anybody care? | ||
| Civil rights, gay rights, you know, all of that, women's rights, pot, all of it. | ||
| We all know where we're going. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We all know where we're going. | ||
| So why the fuck are we having these fights and fucking... | ||
| Well, because people... | ||
| Look, I mean, what we were talking about earlier, the Black Lives Matter people upset at the women's rights movement. | ||
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Right. | |
| The trans community upset at the women wearing vaginas. | ||
| That's because people are... | ||
| Crazy! | ||
| Fractious. | ||
| Fractious, yes. | ||
| That's a good word. | ||
| I never used it, but I'm... | ||
| Start fucking throwing it around now. | ||
| And I think that this is why we need some sanity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you need some common sense in saying, look, people, we all know where we're getting. | ||
| Let's just stop fighting each other. | ||
| We need psychedelic drugs. | ||
| That's really what we need. | ||
| I mean, that sounds stupid. | ||
| Mushrooms and PTSD. Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, also MDMA and PTSD. And ayahuasca is curing a lot of people of smoking and alcoholism. | ||
| And heroin. | ||
| Yeah, and a lot of that is also because they need to get ayahuasca because dimethyltryptamine, the active compound of it, is illegal in the United States, even though your body produces it. | ||
| There's actually clinics in Mexico. | ||
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Yeah, and Ibogaine, which is an amazing one for you. | |
| For heroin and opiates. | ||
| I'm taking Ibogaine. | ||
| Rewires the mind. | ||
| If you have someone who you know who has an opiate addiction, my friend Ed Clay, he runs a center down in Mexico, and he started it out because he had a problem with them. | ||
| He kicked them by using Ibogaine, and now he's like... | ||
| We did a story on it, and it's incredibly successful. | ||
| The guy who we followed through that, he's still clean. | ||
| It's been incredibly successful. | ||
| I mean, I don't understand why if things work. | ||
| Why we just can't say, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, because, again, it's not on our team. | ||
| Our team is clean and Jesus and Bibles and football, and we're not taking drugs like a bunch of goddamn dirty hippies. | ||
| You want Bernie Sanders and you want drugs? | ||
| And it's also Big Pharma. | ||
| Yeah, it's that, too. | ||
| There's a lot of money. | ||
| Well, they need to get high, too. | ||
| That's part of the problem. | ||
| Part of the problem is all these fucking people that have already made a fuckload of money and they're trying to protect those investments... | ||
| They're involved in these gigantic organizations, these corporations. | ||
| It becomes this diffusion of responsibility situation where you have all of these people acting in the benefit of the group or for the benefit of the group, not thinking about everybody as individuals and justifying what they do by the fact that, hey, this is just business. | ||
| This is how it's done. | ||
| This is how it's always done. | ||
| There's enough fucking profit already. | ||
| There's enough. | ||
| And if you're in a business and your only way to make profit is by eating babies, and you go, look, my country, we've been eating babies over here for a long time, and we're not going to just stop eating babies. | ||
| No, you have to stop eating babies. | ||
| We know it's not good now. | ||
| And I feel the same way about fucking SeaWorld. | ||
| They need to stop having dolphins and whales and orcas in captivity. | ||
| Cut the shit. | ||
| You can't do that anymore. | ||
| There's a lot of things that we know are bad, but we allow them to go on because they've gone on for a long time. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I mean, it's across the board. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| And all of those, they're being exposed now. | ||
| It's one of the more interesting things about this time, is that because of all the information that's out now about opiate addictions, that's the reason why doctors prescribe less and less now. | ||
| That's the reason why they're under more and more scrutiny. | ||
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Yeah, correct. | |
| Like Oxys and all that. | ||
| Yeah, it's not because the doctors wanted to stop. | ||
| It's not because the pharmaceutical companies wanted to stop. | ||
| It's because our information got out. | ||
| It was the most profitable drug of the last 10 years. | ||
| Yeah, and it's because guys like you and Vice got that fucking message out. | ||
| And how about fentanyl? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| I know a guy who just died of it. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, I know a martial arts guy who just died of it. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| It's way more powerful than heroin, right? | ||
| Way more powerful. | ||
| It's 400 times more powerful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Who fucking looked at oxys and went, not strong enough, bro? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This stuff's for pussies. | ||
| Well, the thing with fentanyl is you can take like one grain of it and then cut it into some... | ||
| To go back to your point, it's pure profit. | ||
| But the fact of the thing is people are dying like motherfuckers on it. | ||
| And you're like, holy shit. | ||
| And people didn't know that they were addicted to fentanyl until they went in to try to get treated. | ||
| And they're like, oh shit, you're not addicted to heroin. | ||
| You're addicted to fentanyl, which is even harder to kick. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| And it's synthetic, and it's something that human beings have created. | ||
| And they've created over the last ten years, right? | ||
| And there's not a lot of data on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As far as, like, what the average person knows? | ||
| It's for, like, operating on rhinoceros. | ||
| I mean, it's super fucking strong. | ||
| It's super strong. | ||
| We're assholes. | ||
| Well, that's it, too. | ||
| Opioid overdoses are going through the roof. | ||
| It's never been higher. | ||
| Deaths have never been higher. | ||
| And we're just sitting there going, well, we're making the stuff. | ||
| We can stop making it. | ||
| Whoever is making that stuff is a monster. | ||
| If you're making that stuff, you are a monster. | ||
| Whatever company that's making that, and the fact that the government hasn't stepped in, Trump immediately steps in and fucking stops the protests in the Dakota pipeline and starts that back up again, and he doesn't do anything about fentanyl? | ||
| Fentanyl, 100%. | ||
| Get on that! | ||
| 100%. | ||
| What numbers of deaths? | ||
| Jamie, pull up the numbers of deaths. | ||
| You know, maybe it's not on his table. | ||
| Maybe people aren't bringing it to him, but they goddamn should be. | ||
| It's a huge, huge problem that, you know, opioid addictions are going through the roof and deathly. | ||
| Before you pull that up, let's guess. | ||
| How many people a year do you think die from fentanyl in the United States? | ||
| Well, they just started being able to track it, but I would say 50,000. | ||
| Oh, I was going to say 19,000. | ||
| I don't know why I said 19. I would say 50,000. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm going low. | ||
| He's going high. | ||
| Jamie? | ||
| What are the numbers? | ||
| Drumroll, please. | ||
| Trying to find a good number. | ||
| It's not readily out yet. | ||
| That's because the goddamn pharmaceutical companies are fucking around with the man. | ||
| Well, let's just see opioid overdoses in 2016. Well, no, no, no. | ||
| We need to specifically find out. | ||
| Let's just go with that. | ||
| Let's just see what that is. | ||
| It'll give us a ballpark. | ||
| That's gonna be a lot. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| Opioid overdoses in the United States, I'm going with 75,000. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You gotta guess. | ||
| I can't say I don't know. | ||
| I went above yours. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So we're inconsistent. | ||
| That's high, though. | ||
| Because you gotta think, like, that's overdose deaths. | ||
| Deaths. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| Like, that's a ton. | ||
| Right, but I bet it's probably accurate. | ||
| I mean, you think about the 350 million people, and I think there's something like 39 million that are on it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, it's something insane. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Something insane. | ||
| The number of people that are on painkillers are fucking bananas. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| 52,000! | ||
| Bam! | ||
| You're a monster. | ||
| You fucking nailed it. | ||
| Look at you. | ||
| Well, I got 50... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I had 50,000 on fentanyl. | ||
| Oh, that's just drugs. | ||
| That's just drug overdoses. | ||
| And that's 15. Opioids driving this epidemic with 20,000. | ||
| Oh, so I was right. | ||
| Hollow! | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| That's 2015. 16, I believe, was like... | ||
| Yeah, you were close. | ||
| Higher. | ||
| It was 75, I think. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So it ramped up that much? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| I believe it doubled in the past three years. | ||
| See if you can find 2016. Is that on that? | ||
| Maybe it's not out yet. | ||
| It's probably not out yet. | ||
| They're still counting up the bodies. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| And find out this. | ||
| What are the number... | ||
| They don't give you the number of people that are on them, but they'll give you the number of prescriptions for 2015 and 16 for opiates. | ||
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No. | |
| You can get that number? | ||
| I think it's 39 million. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I think that's what I had read, that there was 39 million prescriptions, which is 1 out of 10. But it's not really, because how many times do they refill it, right? | ||
| Is it that? | ||
| When you say someone has a prescription, are you saying it's prescribed to you, or are you saying I write you a new prescription when it runs out? | ||
| 39 million people on opioids, I mean, that's a large country. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| But it's one out of ten. | ||
| It's more than one out of ten if it's per person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think it is per person, though. | ||
| I think it's per prescription, so you might be able to have five prescriptions over the course of a year. | ||
| But then again, they don't know because a lot of it is illegal. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's a huge part of the problem. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I would gather that probably half of it is illegal. | ||
| At least. | ||
| Because you got illegal stuff, pills coming in from all over the world and Mexico. | ||
| And then people... | ||
| So the story we did on it was they get addicted to Oxy, then they can't afford it because Oxy's are more expensive than heroin. | ||
| I don't know how the fuck that happened, I guess, whatever. | ||
| And then they're doing heroin because it's cheaper. | ||
| Then fentanyl, because it's cheaper still and stronger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's that whole thing of like when someone dies of a heroin overdose, everyone goes to their dealer and buys from them because, oh, then it's really strong when I'm not going to die. | ||
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| So that's another reason why fentanyl is going through the roof. | ||
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| It's such a bizarre state that we're in when it comes to that. | ||
| And then there's all sorts of other prescription pills that people are taking. | ||
| You know how many people are addicted to Xanax? | ||
| You know, not a lot of them are dropping like flies, but it's a huge issue. | ||
| And all, like, these wives that I meet in these, like, wealthy communities, all these people, it's like so many fucking people are on Xanax. | ||
| I mean, they're laughing about it. | ||
| I'll just have a Xanax and a glass of wine here. | ||
| Like, how many of you fuckers are on Xanax? | ||
| Some lady was at the improv the other night, and she was so comfortable heckling. | ||
| She was in the front row. | ||
| She was an older lady. | ||
| And she was a little drunk. | ||
| She was tipsy. | ||
| But she was so comfortable heckling and chatting it up. | ||
| And I go, let me guess. | ||
| I go, you had a glass of wine and a Xanax. | ||
| And she fucking got up and high-fived me. | ||
| She was laughing. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| You're right! | ||
| And I go, do you take that all the time? | ||
| She's like, all the time. | ||
| I can't get along without it. | ||
| I'm like, whoa. | ||
| Well, wasn't there a stat? | ||
| I remember this stat, and hopefully we can pull it. | ||
| We're giving him too much work right now. | ||
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He's confused. | |
| But there was a stat that like 50% of the country was on pharmacy, like some sort of like Xanax or this or that or whatever, booze. | ||
| And the other 50% was on, you know, pot or coke or this or that, which kind of makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so you're like, basically, you know what it reminded me? | ||
| It reminded me of, like, Platoon, when Elias' dudes were all smoking pot, and they were like the freaks, and then the other dudes were drinking whiskey and beer and whatever. | ||
| And it's sort of like... | ||
| And the crazy guys were smoking the weed and the good, you know, hardcore guy, you know, whatever his name was, the Tom Berenger character. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were the wild turkey drinkers. | ||
| And but if you just look at it, you're like, well, everybody in the country in some form or another is taking something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If not, then they're going to AA meetings and smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, that's really what's going on, man. | ||
| You know, what do we got here, Jamie? | ||
| Got some stats? | ||
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Yeah, I got some stats here. | |
| Well, 52 Americans. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's even more. | ||
| 52 million Americans use prescription drugs for non-medical reasons at least once in their lifetime. | ||
| So that means people that are recreationally taking probably... | ||
| You know, painkillers. | ||
| Death by overdoses involving prescription painkillers quadrupled since 1999. That's incredible. | ||
| More than 6.5 million people above the age of 11 used prescription drugs for non-medical reasons in 2013. That's more than cocaine. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| But that cocaine number looks unbelievably low. | ||
| I think that's New York on a Friday night. | ||
| Yeah, that's Santa Monica. | ||
| Those are liars. | ||
| Total number of retail drug prescriptions in 2015. It's... | ||
| 4,065,175,064. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| We are fucking, we've been evaded. | ||
| You're a good researcher. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| We've been evaded. | ||
| Look how, yeah. | ||
| Look at Alabama. | ||
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Look at California. | |
| Coming in strong. | ||
| How about Alabama's at the top? | ||
| It's just Alphabet 4. Oh, I see, I see. | ||
| Alphabet 4. Oh yeah, California though. | ||
| Oh my god, 458 million. | ||
| Are we at the top? | ||
| We're taking it out here. | ||
| We're number one. | ||
| What's New York? | ||
| New York's gotta be. | ||
| That's hilarious if Florida's number two because there's way less people in Florida. | ||
| Yeah, New York. | ||
| Just above New York. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Dude, there's way less people in Florida. | ||
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Ohio's way up there for... | |
| Ohio's way up there for, yeah. | ||
| You grew up there, kid. | ||
| You know what's up. | ||
| You gotta get fucked up. | ||
| You gotta get fucked up if you want to get through. | ||
| Where in Ohio? | ||
| Columbus, Ohio. | ||
| Powerful Columbus. | ||
| There's a lot of punk bands from there. | ||
| Yeah, that's the reason why. | ||
| It's fucking grey all through the winter. | ||
| Go outside. | ||
| There's no goddamn clouds. | ||
| Just darkness or no sun. | ||
| Just darkness and gloomy and heroin and pills. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Pills. | ||
| Yeah, man, it's not good and I don't know how to get that out of the system. | ||
| That's like having a computer virus and you bring it to the computer guy and he's like, oh Jesus. | ||
| It's in everything. | ||
| Well, it's also another reason why we're all fucked up. | ||
| Everybody's just, you know, drugging themselves and, oh, fucking opioids and, you know. | ||
| And the cynics will say, well, you're a fucking pothead. | ||
| You're talking about that and you're a pothead. | ||
| What's the difference, bro? | ||
| Well, it's pot, stupid. | ||
| First of all, second of all, it doesn't do anything bad to you. | ||
| It's already been established. | ||
| Obviously, no one's trying to stop whiskey, okay? | ||
| No one's trying to stop wine. | ||
| I'm not trying to stop people from taking things that are manageable. | ||
| There is nothing manageable about fentanyl. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| If you're rolling the dice with death every time you're doing something, that's not good. | ||
| And also, if you're getting addicted like that, and you just can't do anything about it, then that's just stupid. | ||
| And it's way harder to kick, you said? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Great. | |
| What a combo. | ||
| It's much stronger. | ||
| Who the fuck needed that? | ||
| Who approved that? | ||
| It was for animals. | ||
| And then they said, oh, we can just cut this and it's sort of like super strong heroin. | ||
| It's like PCP, right? | ||
| PCP was an animal tranquilizer. | ||
| I know, but it's just amazing that someone greenlit that. | ||
| That they look at that and go, oh, well, paper seems to be in order. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Roll it out. | ||
| Well, how many, this is my thing, how many hippopotamuses and rhinos are we tranking? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because somebody must have looked at it at some point and said, fuck, there's a lot of hippopotamuses getting their livers removed here in New York City. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, once those woolly mammoths start fucking roaming through Russia and chewing everything apart, we're going to have to shoot them with darts. | ||
| We're going to have to crank them and check them out. | ||
| Make sure they're not doing anything weird. | ||
| We need the mammoths. | ||
| We need the mammoths. | ||
| Make sure they're not evolving on us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Weird times, man. | ||
| Really, really, really weird times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And more weird, I think, than any other time in human history. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| And, you know, if we believe in Moore's Law, then it's going to just go... | ||
| Like you're saying, we have this technology now. | ||
| We can't even... | ||
| Like, it used to be like, oh, 50 years from now we'll write about... | ||
| Five years from now, we don't know what the fuck's going to happen. | ||
| All this shit is just like, well, we can map the genome, and now we can edit the genome. | ||
| Now we can reverse aging. | ||
| Now we can do this. | ||
| And you're just sitting there going, holy shit, this is happening in real time. | ||
| So quickly. | ||
| And because of that, the speed is ramping up. | ||
| Kind of like it though because you know, I do a lot of medical research and I'm like You know one of the reasons why I'm not drinking here is because I got to go for my annual physical and I'm you know Gotta go in and not you don't have too much booze or whatever my body But it what's interesting about it is they map your shit and they check out your shit and they say well This is gonna happen or that can happen whatever else, but you sit there and you go in five years You're gonna have Aggressive therapies, if not cures, for many forms of cancer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you're just sitting there going, please, for fuck's sake, just get me another fucking 10 years so that I can get to this sort of stage. | ||
| And I think a lot of people with a lot of diseases that hitherto have been incurable are sitting there going, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's going exponentially. | ||
| And when you can map the genome, then you can figure this out and we can rewire that fucking thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there's also more understanding about nutrition now than ever before and the causes of all these illnesses, and a big part of that is inflammation. | ||
| Gut. | ||
| Gut health. | ||
| Gut health. | ||
| Yeah, gut health, and that pertains to a lot of it, pertains to your diet, you know, and also the over-prescription of antibiotics. | ||
| I was listening to this podcast today. | ||
| Destroys your biome. | ||
| Yeah, I was listening to this podcast today where they were discussing, this one was discussing having, she had some sort of an illness and they gave her two, oh she had an ear infection, and they gave her two big doses of antibiotics and she was fucked up for a decade. | ||
| She had constant pain, chronic pain, all these illnesses and injuries. | ||
| And then finally she went to a homeopathic doctor. | ||
| And the homeopathic doctor sorted it out with probiotics. | ||
| And she thought it was bullshit. | ||
| She was saying like the woman, her name was like Snowflake and her child was Moonchild. | ||
| I had the exact same thing. | ||
| It was not Stardust. | ||
| It was a great, great, great doctor called Dr. Lipman. | ||
| He's an internist. | ||
| And what happened was I had a stomach eating, flesh eating stomach parasite. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| And dysentery. | ||
| I got in Afghanistan. | ||
| I came back and I was in trouble. | ||
| I was bad. | ||
| Went to the sort of tropical disease center and they're like, holy shit, we have to get this out. | ||
| What did it look like? | ||
| Well, I took super strong, super, super strong antibiotics. | ||
| And afterwards, I was like, I'm fucked up. | ||
| Like, I'm seriously fucked up here. | ||
| I can't get out of bed. | ||
| Like, I'm messed up. | ||
| And this guy goes, he's like this internist. | ||
| You gotta go see him. | ||
| So I go see him, and he's just like, you need a ton of probiotics. | ||
| You need to rebuild your biome, right? | ||
| And so I did. | ||
| I just took a ton of probiotics, and he put me on this shit and whatever. | ||
| I was a new man, right? | ||
| Because all your immune system, everything is there. | ||
| Now they found out. | ||
| So, you know, what was happening was C. diff and Crohn's disease and all these things were happening because there was superbugs in hospitals because they were over-prescribing antibiotics. | ||
| And so they started doing... | ||
| Fecal transplants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of healthy shit. | ||
| I tried to explain that to someone. | ||
| They thought I was joking. | ||
| It redoes your biome. | ||
| And by the way, it was incurable before. | ||
| People are dying, and then they do a fecal transplant, and they're cured. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it replenishes your biome, right? | ||
| And you're completely destroying it with antibiotics. | ||
| We did a piece on it, the post-antibiotic world, where they just stop working. | ||
| And if you don't come up with shit like fecal transplants, you're fucking dead. | ||
| So I went through that, and I've got to say, you know, fucking let's spend some money on that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Autism symptoms improve after fecal transplant. | ||
| Small study finds. | ||
| Yeah, they're finding out that it has something to do with autistic... | ||
| Also Parkinson's and Alzheimer's? | ||
| Yeah, but the severity of autism symptoms and all the traits that they exhibit, something has to do with their gut biome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you can make the gut biome healthy, it radically improves their state. | ||
| Parkinson's and Alzheimer's starts in your gut, moves up, starts to play. | ||
| And that's another thing that apparently has a giant effect on people with autism is medical marijuana. | ||
| Medical marijuana, especially edible marijuana. | ||
| I have a friend and he moved to Washington State particularly because of that because when they they made it legal and another friend who this kid was also autistic moved to Colorado for that reason so he could get it easily. | ||
| And people with cancer we have a story of all these parents who are like Bible thumpers who found the only thing that worked was CBD and they're like fuck it we're moving from Texas and wherever to Washington and Colorado because it's the only thing that helps my kids. | ||
| And here's my message to them If you believe in God, you've got to believe that God made marijuana. | ||
| It's man that decided it was bad for you. | ||
| It's not God. | ||
| It's not logic. | ||
| It's definitely not science. | ||
| There's just some bullshit propaganda that got stuck to it in the 1930s and we're still trying to shake it off. | ||
| That's really what's going on. | ||
| It has nothing to do with what's right or what's wrong. | ||
| They were not into a lot of fun in the 30s. | ||
| They didn't want booze. | ||
| It was right after that, actually. | ||
| It was right after they had gotten through the prohibition that they decided to go after marijuana. | ||
| That's really when it happened. | ||
| It all happened because of William Randolph Hearst. | ||
| You know the whole story behind it. | ||
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No. | |
| You don't? | ||
| Goddamn it, I've told it a thousand times. | ||
| So I'll give you the abbreviated version. | ||
| William Randolph Hearst owned Hearst Publications, newspapers. | ||
| He also owned paper mills. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they came out with this machine called the decorticator that allowed them to much more effectively process hemp fiber. | ||
| It was a machine that processed it. | ||
| Hemp makes a superior paper. | ||
| It makes superior cloth. | ||
| It makes superior... | ||
| You can eat it. | ||
| The hemp seed's nutritious. | ||
| It has essential fatty acids, all the amino acids. | ||
| It's an amazing plant. | ||
| It's like an alien plant. | ||
| He decides to demonize it because he doesn't want to convert his wood, his trees that he's turning into paper, he doesn't want to convert it to hemp and spend millions of dollars. | ||
| So instead, he starts publishing stories about Mexicans and blacks that are taking this new drug called marijuana and raping white women. | ||
| This drug, marijuana, wasn't even the name for cannabis. | ||
| When they made cannabis outlaw, when they made it illegal, when they made marijuana illegal, they didn't even know they were making hemp illegal. | ||
| They didn't know. | ||
| The general public did not know it was the same thing. | ||
| Because this word marijuana was never associated with hemp or with cannabis. | ||
| Marijuana was a wild Mexican tobacco, totally unrelated to cannabis. | ||
| They called it marijuana so that they could demonize it, and that's when they funded Reefer Madness and all those crazy propaganda movies and posters. | ||
| And we are still, to this day, trying to shake off what William Randolph Hearst and Harry Anslinger did in the 1930s. | ||
| It's a very interesting anecdote that sort of is very pertinent to what's happening today, where you can just make up a story about something and then it's fucking, it's the truth. | ||
| It is pertinent. | ||
| It's really perfect. | ||
| It's the perfect way to connect it to, I mean, we're still dealing with that problem from almost 100 years ago. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| And it could happen again. | ||
| You know, what we're looking at right now is not a rigid, completely rock-solid civilization. | ||
| All it would take is one asteroidal impact, one killing of the power grid, one... | ||
| I mean, something happens. | ||
| A meteor shower happens, and it kills off 30% of the population. | ||
| Permafront. | ||
| Yeah, permafrost. | ||
| That could happen. | ||
| There's so many things that could go wrong. | ||
| Yellowstone. | ||
| They have thousands of earthquakes in Yellowstone every year. | ||
| It's a giant caldera volcano that at one point in time blew up and killed everything on the continent. | ||
| Every six to eight hundred thousand years it goes and when it goes that's a wrap baby and the last time it went 600,000 years ago and we they have thousands of earthquakes every year in Yellowstone and you go there and you watch Steam shooting out of the ground because the fucking boiling magma is so close to the surface that the rivers and streams and the underground water runs into it heats it up and shoots it up in the sky on a regular basis It's fucking bananas! | ||
| What I love about that is everyone goes and says, look at that, that's fucking awesome. | ||
| Yeah, I went. | ||
| I went. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| But it's totally possible that that fucking thing with very little notice could blow. | ||
| And if it blows, we're dead. | ||
| Because we're too close to it. | ||
| It's in Montana. | ||
| That's not far enough away. | ||
| I mean, maybe some people on the East Coast will survive. | ||
| But they're going to go in a nuclear winter. | ||
| And it's going to fuck up everybody all over the world. | ||
| But that's why, just speaking about technology, that if you ever talk to, for example, our guy on our Council of Elders, Elon Musk, he's like, why are we a single planetary species? | ||
| Why wouldn't we just hedge our bets and be a bi-planetary species? | ||
| Because if something does go wrong, at least you've got your data and your culture and your people and whatever. | ||
| And why wouldn't you do that if you could do that? | ||
| And when they put it that way, you're like, well, that sort of makes sense. | ||
| Because everyone's like, oh, I want to live on Mars, those crazy nerds. | ||
| There's no evidence that we can live there, though. | ||
| The real problem is we can't really stay in that atmosphere for very long. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But I mean, they can make fucking... | ||
| Yeah, but even that, you're still dealing with a lesser gravity. | ||
| It's going to have massive health consequences for the people that decide to move there. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| But I'm just saying, that's their argument. | ||
| No, it's a good argument. | ||
| We should be a multi-planetary species. | ||
| It's a good argument, and it's also arguable that with all this CRISPR technology, they might be able to figure out some sort of a medical solution for people that do move to a... | ||
| You know, like the moon has one-sixth Earth's gravity. | ||
| You know, there might be some way that they could figure out a way to colonize the moon and, you know, develop some sort of a new technology. | ||
| Well, they have crazy shit about... | ||
| Terraforming and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Creating an atmosphere. | ||
| Why don't they do that here? | ||
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Fix what we already fucked up. | |
| They have to use nukes to do it in Mars. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| They have to nuke the poles, right? | ||
| Yeah, they nuke the poles. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| What a good idea. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Anytime you're... | ||
| I mean, that sounds like something a little kid would come up with. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How are you gonna solve this? | ||
| Oh, we're gonna drop some fucking nuclear bombs on the roof. | ||
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What? | |
| It's gonna make the thing. | ||
| It's gonna make an atmosphere. | ||
| Yeah, you're gonna... | ||
| It's too many Matt Damon movies. | ||
| What I always just think about that is, you know, they get the equation wrong, and then something's like, oh, fuck it, it throws that, you know, the gravitational pull off by four centimeters, and then you're like... | ||
| Oh shit, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That should have been a carry the two. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then aliens land on it and take it over. | ||
| As soon as the air comes up, those, like the actual alien from the movie Alien with the big fucking head, those things, they just camp out right over there and start building spaceships and plan their attack. | ||
| What kind of problem, Shane Smith? | ||
| I don't know if we're going to solve them by moving to Mars. | ||
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Did you see that last movie there? | |
| Arrival? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| I liked it. | ||
| I heard it was great. | ||
| I liked it. | ||
| I heard it was really good. | ||
| I haven't seen it yet. | ||
| I'm going to see it, though. | ||
| I liked it. | ||
| I thought it was good. | ||
| Don't you spoil the alert, mate. | ||
| Okay, I'm not going to. | ||
| I know you wanted to, right? | ||
| I gotta go, man. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here, man. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I love you, too, man. | ||
| So much fun. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Always. | ||
| We did a sober one. | ||
| We did a sober one. | ||
| People said we couldn't do it. | ||
| I'll come back mid-season and I'll be on the piss again. | ||
| I'm hoping that Mayo gives me a clean bill so that I can come back. | ||
| You'll look great. | ||
| I'm sure you're fine. | ||
| Love you, man. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, I love you, too. | ||
| Shane Smith! | ||
| That was great, man. |
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