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Dec. 22, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #888 - Ron White
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ron white
01:39:28
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ron white
Sound effects.
Or was that you?
joe rogan
That was me.
ron white
Okay, all right.
I thought you paid for that.
joe rogan
We're live.
Ron White.
ron white
Hey, Joe.
joe rogan
You look like you're ready to take notes.
ron white
I signed this, you know, you shoved some paperwork at me when I don't have my glasses.
I don't even know what it says.
joe rogan
You have glasses on.
ron white
I do.
joe rogan
I do.
ron white
Oh, yeah, I do.
Yeah, and I'm not sure, but I think I've just agreed to, you know, whatever.
joe rogan
Trust me, we wouldn't do anything terrible to you.
ron white
No, you're my friend.
joe rogan
I love you.
ron white
I love you, too.
We have a mutual admiration society that we don't let anybody else in.
joe rogan
It's been so nice.
ron white
People want in, but fuck them.
joe rogan
Fuck them.
It's been so nice having you around a store, man, I gotta tell you.
It's really fun.
ron white
Yeah, it's great having you around, too, man.
It's our little home base up there.
It's a fucking hoot.
joe rogan
It is, right?
It's like you work on everything there and then venture forth.
ron white
Right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a spot.
ron white
Yeah.
You know, I've just got this big quandary now whether to even do another special or what it would do for me.
And, you know, Netflix is offering me money, but they're not offering me, you know, huge money.
They're offering me regular money.
joe rogan
You're trying to figure out if you want to?
ron white
Yeah, you know, it takes me, I'm not like some comics, you know, some comics can spit out an hour a year, and I don't, you know.
It takes me three years to write a new record, you know, but it's good, you know, but it takes me forever to do it.
I'm just not that prolific, I guess, anymore.
joe rogan
That's the big debate with comedians like how much time should you wait and Tom Papa and I were just talking about it and I've talked about it with Burr and with Louis CK and a bunch of different guys and Louis is doing like one a year for a while but he stopped doing that and I think he kind of agrees now that when you do one a year it's almost like it's a special full of like adolescent premises.
ron white
Yeah.
Yeah, and I've always found that my stuff ripens well, you know, on the vine, if I leave it there, if I pick it too early.
You know, I used to do a bit that was on my last album, and the punchline's not even on the album.
The punchline I wrote later, which was, it's about my wife buying me a bicycle thinking I might ride it for, you know, health reasons, and it's for sale.
And if you're looking for a bicycle, it's a great deal.
It's got 750 yards on it.
It was a demo when I bought it.
It had 350 yards already on it, but I put the other 400 yards on it myself.
That was the whole joke.
Now, here's the punchline.
And if you'd like to buy the bicycle, just go to my house in Beverly Hills, and it's 400 yards from there.
So I didn't even have the punchline.
I don't even know what I thought was funny about the other part, but when I went back and listened to it, I'm like...
I could start doing that bit again, because they still don't know how it ends, if I wanted to.
joe rogan
Mitch Hedberg did that.
He had a bit on his album, and he goes, this is a bit from my old album.
And he does the bit, he goes, this is the part I left out.
ron white
Oh, really?
joe rogan
And this is the new punchline.
Yeah.
ron white
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a funny thing, you know, development of material.
Like, you're the only one who really knows when it's done.
And sometimes you'll have something.
I've had bits that I didn't put on specials that I was doing.
I was like, this thing is not ready.
And then maybe two specials later, I'll stick it in somewhere.
ron white
Right.
Yeah, so I don't know, you know, that Netflix wants an hour.
I really think Netflix specials should be 30 minutes.
I really do.
Because I would do a 30-minute special and not burn an hour of material on it.
And, you know, I go back.
I watched yours the other day, which was great.
And I watched, oh, the Ali Wong's special.
And it was just long, you know?
It's just long.
An hour's a long time for a special.
And as much as I was impressed by Ally, and I still am impressed by Ally, but I've been impressed with what I see in the club.
When I go back and watch her special, I see what kind of confidence that brought her.
That success of that thing, it made her a better comic.
Now she really has a great, I mean, an even better presence on stage and works even slower and more commanding.
But that's what I learned from watching it.
That kind of success makes you better.
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
For her, she's sort of emerging right now.
She's one of those people that people start to talk about.
She's very, very funny.
She's really cool, too.
Really nice person.
But she's nasty and funny on stage.
ron white
Right.
unidentified
Fucking vicious.
ron white
And I don't know her because now she's got a kid.
So as soon as she gets off stage, she's out of there.
So I talked to her on stage a couple of times when she was bringing me up.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's very friendly.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I'd like an hour.
I'd like an hour.
I'd like a good hour special.
You know, maybe you just don't want to...
ron white
I'm cheap.
joe rogan
You just don't want to do it.
unidentified
I'm cheap.
ron white
I don't want to do the work, man.
It's so daunting to put a...
I mean, my last special was an hour and 20 minutes.
And that's how long it was.
And when I sold it, I'm like, I don't want to go edit it.
You know, it works like that.
You can have the whole thing.
And then I'm standing there naked.
You know, I could have gotten away with 48 minutes.
You know, because it was on television.
And nobody saw it on TV because it was on CMT. Nobody watches fucking CMT. So nobody's even heard the last album and I don't do it.
unidentified
Isn't country music television, isn't that real popular?
joe rogan
Do they call it country music television anymore or they just call it CMT? But it started out as...
ron white
Yeah, I think it still stands for country music television.
joe rogan
But they're trying to do a bunch of other shit now, too, right?
ron white
They try to do, you know, they did a...
I had a special with them once a year, and I would do...
Then I would just have to come up with 15 minutes, which was doable, you know, that I could actually put on TV. Most of it I shouldn't even have put on TV, but that was great.
It was the salute to the troops thing and raise money and awareness for good stuff, and then they quit doing it.
And somehow bought my special.
And so I just, you know, if I do a bit from it, you know, it kills like nobody's heard it.
So I really don't think anybody really heard it.
It only sold 12 copies of those people, you know.
joe rogan
12?
unidentified
No.
ron white
Yeah, they know it.
I have no idea how many.
joe rogan
We were talking about that before the show about, like, buying things.
Like, nobody buys...
Comedy albums anymore.
They just don't make any money.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
Like none.
ron white
Yeah, and you know what?
And I just started watching stuff on Netflix the other day because I just wanted to watch some of the specials of some of the people I knew up there to see what they were doing, you know, what they were working on.
And now why would you buy a fucking record?
You can just flip it over to Netflix and watch it, you know?
joe rogan
Well, I like listening to shit in my car.
I like when people release things on iTunes.
ron white
Yeah, my best comedy album story, and I don't mean this to be mean or anything else, but I was watching the record sales because my records were selling.
And then Dane Cook comes in, and he just blows by me.
And I'm like, who's this guy?
Because I'm not an L.A. guy.
I'm a road guy.
You know, we don't know what's going on out here, nor do we give a shit.
But I thought, well, so I was at a bookstore, and I saw it.
And I thought, well, I'm going to buy it and see what it's like.
So literally, I'll listen to it on the way home.
When I got home, I pulled it out and threw it in the trash.
Not to be mean, but just because I don't keep things I don't use.
And I knew I wouldn't listen to it again, and I wasn't going to give it to somebody else to listen to, and so I don't need it anymore.
We've run our thing.
And not to say anything bad about Dane, because plenty of bad things have been said, but...
But I just, that was so unintuit that I'm like, if that's what they're doing out there, then they're getting away with murder because those aren't punchlines, I'm sorry to tell you.
joe rogan
Well, that was a weird time.
He locked into some weird thing where he sort of appealed to young girls.
Like he did comedy design for young girls.
No, no, that's not you.
It's not me either.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not a lot of us.
ron white
Well, he had that fascinating stage presence, too, and just really walk on stage and take command of anything.
I don't know if he can still do it, but at one time I'd watch him, and I'm like, you'll like him or not, if you're a comic, you could probably learn something from watching him.
It was a young comic.
Just walk up there and start doing it.
Stare him down.
Don't be timid.
And he was a great stage present, but the content, I was like, why?
What?
What?
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Why don't we...
But...
And now I guess it's turned around on him.
I mean, it's not...
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, it turned around on him when that whole Louis C.K. plagiarism thing came out and there was a lot of shit going on.
ron white
Right.
Was he supposed to have stole something from Louis?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Like a lot of things.
Yeah.
ron white
Before Louis was famous?
joe rogan
Yep.
ron white
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
Well, that's when it's easy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, Louis was...
ron white
Get them while they're young.
joe rogan
Well, Louis wasn't young.
Louis was older than him.
But Louis, he made it first.
He broke through first.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And then it became a giant controversy.
Like, Louis even addressed it on his television show.
Like, he had Dane on as a guest on a show.
I heard about that.
Yeah, and they kind of went over it.
It was very weird.
Like, Louis, he's so nice.
Like, the way he handled it was so nice.
Like, he wasn't mean about it at all.
ron white
Right.
He's not like you and Mencia.
unidentified
Well, that was a different story.
ron white
That was just the best thing ever.
You had every comic in the country just cheering your fucking name, man.
Go get him, Joe.
And you're such a badass.
What's he going to do?
Slap you?
You know, you can either listen to it or he can beat you up or whatever you want.
What are you going to do?
joe rogan
That was the worst I've ever seen, though.
I've seen plagiarists before.
I've seen guys get away with stealing people's shit.
I've never seen someone that blatant.
He was a bully about it.
He would do your shit.
He would go on in front of you and do your shit.
He would bring you up at the store and do your closing bit before he brought you up.
ron white
Man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it's one of those things like a serial killer wants to get caught, you know?
ron white
You think that's what it is?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do.
I really do.
I really do.
ron white
Well, you know, the only thing that matters to me really is, I mean, or the thing I'm most proud of is that I'm respected by my peers.
That I didn't get here in some fucking cheap way.
I did my fucking 30 years in 9 million clubs and 12,000 shows.
And if I didn't have that, I don't know if I'd be able to show my face around here.
joe rogan
No, you wouldn't.
ron white
That's all there is, I think.
joe rogan
I think for people like us, it's probably the most important thing because there's so few of us.
I mean, is there a thousand working comedians?
Is there even a thousand?
I mean, there might not even be a thousand.
ron white
Yeah, it's a tiny, tiny subculture.
joe rogan
Tiny.
And out of that subculture, Maybe 300 of them I want to see, you know?
ron white
Yeah.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Right?
So you're one of 300 people out of 300 million.
That's a tiny amount.
Fuck yeah, Ron White.
unidentified
Look at you.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
ron white
I'm getting buff.
I'm getting buff just sitting here.
joe rogan
You got fired up right there.
ron white
I sure did.
joe rogan
I wish we brought you tequila, man.
ron white
I'm glad I really if I would have I'd have sat here and drank it with you and then I'd have been oh now I had to get that Range Rover back to back to LA. That's what Uber's for.
joe rogan
You got some good goddamn tequila.
I love the fact that you sell your own tequila.
ron white
Well, you know what?
We wouldn't have done it, but the Riveskish family that makes it wouldn't sell it here.
And so we just pestered them because we couldn't buy it until my brother-in-law did.
And he pestered them for four years, and they finally said, okay, you can bring it over there.
joe rogan
They only sell it in Mexico?
ron white
They only sell it in Mexico.
In Mexico, they sell it for three times what I sell it for here.
And they only sell it in the resort cities, people coming off those boats, and, you know, it's the best tequila that most liquor stores will ever touch.
And so it's called the Gift of God over there.
I don't even know how to say it.
Spanish?
Yeah, she's Mexican, so she could tell you, though.
joe rogan
Does she speak fluent?
ron white
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Does she get mad at you and speak in Spanish?
ron white
No, but what she does do is she's a voiceover artist as well as a singer, so she can do any accent there is.
And she has different wigs for different accents, and she lets me fuck them all.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
ron white
Yeah, it's fucking great, man.
That's fantastic.
I can't ask for them specifically.
They just show up.
joe rogan
Oh, what an interesting little situation.
ron white
Yeah, one of them is named Donna, and she's a bank teller from Denton, Texas.
And, you know, she's sloppy, man.
Just sloppy blowjobs, and it's different.
joe rogan
Donna is?
ron white
Yeah, Donna is.
joe rogan
Donna's off the charts.
ron white
Is she your favorite?
There's a little French girl.
There's a little girl from Japan.
I like them all, you know.
I like to mix them up.
Don't ever want to say that Donna gives a better blowjob than Margo, because it's technically not true, but she's still like, oh, really?
I'm like, oh, come on.
unidentified
It's you?
ron white
Yeah, it's you, honey.
joe rogan
How could you get upset at you?
She's getting jealous of herself.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
But it can happen.
ron white
Why, just because she spits on your dick?
unidentified
Whoa.
ron white
Yeah.
Oh, can you say that on a podcast?
joe rogan
Yeah, you definitely can.
ron white
Okay, good.
joe rogan
For sure.
Yeah, some people are into that.
The spitting on the dick thing.
It's just like, whoa, we are getting dirty for sure.
ron white
Puh.
Puh.
Yeah.
It's just, you know, people that can't afford lube.
joe rogan
When do you think that started, the spitting on the dick?
Because I don't think they did that in the 80s.
ron white
You don't think so?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I never saw it.
ron white
You know, it's just, I think you porn brought it around, brought it into the light.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you see variety instantaneously, like you don't have to venture forth into the weird sections.
You know, like if you're in a video store back in the old days, you had to go through those beads.
He and I remember those.
It was either saloon doors or beads.
We had to go into the section of the video store that had the porn and you always felt so full of shame when you were wandering through there.
unidentified
It was horrible.
ron white
It was horrible.
It was like, oh man, nobody does this but me.
But now you know.
joe rogan
But at least back then, no one had a phone with a camera.
So you couldn't take a video.
Look, I'm watching Ron White go to the fucking dirty section.
ron white
Is that a lump in his pants?
joe rogan
Is that gay porn you look at?
He's looking at the gag stuff.
He likes people to gag.
ron white
I do.
joe rogan
But that's the thing now.
It's like you can go to any one of those websites and have the porn on it, and you can just keep scrolling.
Like, oh, check this out.
And you get it instantaneously, and it's free.
ron white
Right.
But that's what I like about YouPorn, is that...
Is I don't have to worry about seeing something I don't want to see.
You know, I'm such a raging heterosexual.
And I tried one time.
I was in a hotel room, they had gay porn.
I'm like, I'm going to watch some gay porn.
See if it does anything with click.
Nothing.
Not a damn thing.
I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ.
This is fucking horrible.
And I guess I'm, you know, fucking some people are just straight.
joe rogan
Well, women like dick.
So, I mean, it makes sense that some men like dick.
I get it.
ron white
I do too, but I didn't get it.
It just doesn't, you know.
joe rogan
That fucking story that you're telling on stage now, the story that you told about the prostitute situation?
ron white
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The one you encouraged me to do.
It's so funny.
unidentified
You had to tell that.
ron white
We were crying.
I'll tell you our listeners.
Now they're our listeners.
unidentified
It's everybody.
ron white
The Joe and Ron show.
Thank you.
I'll be here every Thursday at 1.30.
But it was true.
I lost my virginity when I was 18 years old to a girl, a prostitute in Tijuana, Mexico, who was overweight and her teeth had no general direction or color, but she was well within my budget.
But I got stationed at Pearl, and I found out after a while, once you've been on this one part of Oahu, Hotel Street, these really cute girls would jump in your car and blow you for $5.
And it's like the best deal I've ever even fucking heard of.
I mean, I was like there twice a day, you know?
And I was there for eight months, and six months ago I was watching this documentary on transvestites, and they started talking about the transvestite scene on Hotel Street on Oahu.
I've been there for 55 years.
I'm like...
I let 150 dudes suck my dick.
What's the record?
joe rogan
What's the record before you find out?
I wonder what the record is.
ron white
I don't know, but God, I have to be close.
joe rogan
I've dodged that bullet, but I've come close.
I think I've dodged that bullet.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
If I hadn't dodged the bullet, kudos to whoever pretended to be a girl.
ron white
Apparently, a tongue is a tongue and a tooth is a tooth because you can't tell man mouth from woman mouth.
Now, if it would have been a hand job, I'd have been going, hey, you're a plumber, dude.
Get that hand off my cock.
joe rogan
Thick gorilla hands.
ron white
Yeah, Jesus.
What do you think I am?
joe rogan
Yeah, and I would imagine that somebody who has a dick probably knows how to work it.
ron white
I guess.
I tell you what, these girls had made quick work of me twice a day, 45 seconds.
I was in my little Datsun B-210 heading back to the ship.
joe rogan
Do you say girls with air quotes?
ron white
With air quotes?
Girls?
Yeah.
Well, I still don't like to think of them as dudes, you know?
In my mind, I don't let myself go, but they're still hot little girls.
Not little girls.
These were fully developed men with tits.
joe rogan
They had tits?
ron white
They did.
And I was always wondering, well, let me play with their pose, you know?
They let you get some titty, but you start going down there where the junk is, and they were like swatting your hand away.
I'm like...
Now, that should have been a bit of a flag.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, now you know.
It's one of those things.
ron white
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
So, you were in the Navy?
Is that what you were doing?
ron white
I was.
joe rogan
Yeah?
How long?
ron white
I wasn't in real long.
They...
You know, I just wasn't cut out for it.
I had the wrong mouth for it.
I stayed in trouble.
I didn't, you know, I just did a lot of drugs and, you know, I just, I was horrible out.
And they discharged me.
It was an honorable discharge under medical conditions from the Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center in Miramar, California.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
So what did you have to get rehabilitated for?
ron white
Well, I had actually never seen drugs until I got to the Naval Drug Rehabilitation Center in Miramar, California.
I mean, everybody had drugs.
You know, I was positive for heroin on a Westpac, but so were eight other people on the ship.
And then when we ate a ton of acid, you know, it was 75, and I was 18 years old, and I was off the hook wild.
And, you know...
Actually, in my hearing to get me out, the commander of our base called me a hole in our national line of defense.
I'm like, God, that's horrible.
What's worse than that, I wonder?
Nothing.
joe rogan
That seems a little exaggerating.
ron white
Yeah, like when we're playing Red Rover, you know?
joe rogan
Relax.
The hole in our national defense.
We weren't even at war in 75, right?
ron white
Wasn't that the tail end of the Vietnam War?
joe rogan
Wow.
Did you join or did you get drafted?
ron white
No, there was no draft.
My father drafted me.
I got kicked out of high school and they weren't going to put me back in this time.
And so I was 17. I kind of had my life mapped out because I worked...
Washing dishes at this huge restaurant called Lynchburg Crossing in close to Pasadena, Texas and right on the channel.
Gigantic place.
Unbelievable and served family-style all kinds of seafood and chicken and stuff.
It was really popular.
But they didn't have, they didn't go hire people to wash dishes.
They would go bail these drunks out of jail and they had bunkhouses in the back and the dishwashers would sleep back there.
They'd drink all the half drinks that came back and Crash there.
So I really, at 17 years old, I was thinking, well, I could, when I'm 17, I could join the Merchant Marines at 17, which was wrong.
And then I worked there until I retired, and then I'd go wash dishes until I'd die in that place.
Fuck out.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ron white
Like the old drunk that used to roll his joints.
We couldn't roll joints very good, and this guy could.
We came in there one day just dead as he could be.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny when...
He was dead?
ron white
Dead.
Oh, of?
Cirrhosis.
I mean, these guys were bad.
I mean, bad booze hounds.
But, you know, pretty good dishwashers.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny when you look back on your life, getting kicked out of high school, all the trouble you were in, getting kicked out of the Navy...
Getting blown by a bunch of dudes accidentally.
It's all the recipes of being a great comic, but nobody ever looks at it that way.
ron white
Right, yeah.
You don't have some of that stuff in there.
What are you going to write about?
joe rogan
It's almost like you have to come up to everybody who's a fuck-up and go, look, I know you're not fitting in here, but there's a place where you do.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
There's a place where you do it.
There's a fucking whole clan of us.
You just got to figure out how to do it.
ron white
I'm telling you, Joe, the first time I walked on stage, literally I went to myself, I'm a fuck-up.
I'm a fucking comedian.
Why didn't somebody tell me?
I could have avoided a bunch of that other stuff and just started...
I was 29 when I figured it out.
joe rogan
I was 21. Same feeling.
Right after I did it, I was like, this is it.
I found it.
This is it.
ron white
This is the one that works.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I wasn't good.
I knew I wasn't good.
I knew I was like, there's a lot of work to be done.
But I'm like, this could be my job.
unidentified
I could do this.
ron white
Oh, I didn't think I'd ever do it professionally or anything like that.
I just knew I was a comic.
You know, I knew I was a comedian.
And, uh...
But I never ever saw all this fame and fortune shit coming.
I mean, I never really sat around asking the universe for it.
I never thought it would happen.
Even though I watched it happen to Foxworthy, you know, he's the biggest selling comic of all time by a lot.
He sold more records than Pryor and Cosby combined.
And he blew up standing right next to me, but I never gave it one second of thought that it would happen to me.
joe rogan
Well, when the Blue Collar Tour kicked off and then it took off for you, how old were you?
ron white
Let's see, probably 45 or so, 45 or 46. So you're just working as a comic up until 45 and then boom!
16 years, clubs, 50 weeks a year, doing nine shows a week, which is how you get good at this.
That's the best way to do it, not here, out there, working on different crowds.
And then Jeff, you know, signed me up for this thing, and the first time I heard the idea, I told him, that's retarded.
That's how smart I am.
And the whole clincher to my career is Warner Brothers decided to make a movie out of that thing.
And I didn't even see that.
I mean, I had a, yeah, Warner Brothers is going to make a movie out of it, and Kathleen Madigan's falling out of her chair.
They're going, what?
I'm like, yeah, that's what they said.
But I had no idea what that meant.
You know, I don't know.
I'm an idiot from Northwest Texas, so I'm like, it sounds good.
But then it, you know, for some reason, it just tested.
It was really well-liked across the board.
And it was one of the biggest-selling comedy albums of all time, or DVDs, four million copies.
joe rogan
Well, it was giant.
I remember when it came out.
It was just one of those things like, whoa, nobody ever did that before.
Nobody ever put together a bunch of killers and then did a movie.
ron white
Well, actually, the Kings of Comedy did.
joe rogan
They did it first?
ron white
Yeah, we totally ripped off the black man again, you know.
Goddammit, Ron White.
But, you know, it was just a blue-collar shot at it.
Not necessarily, you know, redneck, but, you know, just people that work for a living.
They like who likes us, you know.
But the catalyst from that made Dan Whitney ridiculously famous and made me famous and did a lot for Bill.
But Jeff was already, you know, Jeff, so...
joe rogan
Do you call Dan Whitney, Dan Whitney, or do you call him Larry the Cable Guy?
Do you ever call him up, hey Larry?
ron white
You say, who the fuck is this?
No, I don't call him Larry.
I don't.
joe rogan
Did you know him forever as Dan?
ron white
Yeah.
Yeah, but you know what?
I never knew, I never saw the act that it wasn't all Larry the Cable Guy.
And I know it used to be.
And one of the funniest things I ever saw was that there used to be this tape in the South County Funny Bone in St. Louis in the condo where they live, a shitty little apartment they put us in.
And it was called Bovine Women from Somewhere.
It was about huge fat girls.
And it was a copy.
It had been around for a while, the condo.
So we'd play it for people as a joke when they came over.
And he had a VHS camera.
And because that was a copy, he edited himself into the movie.
And it was fucking outrageously funny.
joe rogan
So was it a porn?
ron white
A fat woman porn?
Yeah, and so somebody would be fucking her from behind, and then he'd turn the camera around and his Dan just worked out, this could be you, Marty, the manager of the club.
But it was very, very funny.
Made me laugh.
Somebody stole it after that.
Nobody wanted to steal it before it was edited, but somebody took it after that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was back when you need to edit things.
You used to have two VCRs.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
You used to have a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and go back and forth and back and forth.
ron white
Yeah, but those VHS cameras at the end, you know, because I had one too...
I used to tape nearly everything I did.
If it didn't have a tab broken off of it, you could just record right over whatever little part of it you wanted to.
joe rogan
That's right, the tab!
ron white
Yeah, if it had a tab, you couldn't do it.
So that's what you did for your wedding video.
joe rogan
I forgot about that tab.
Like, if you took the tab off, then nobody could record on it.
ron white
Right.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ron white
But if it was still there, and this one was still there, so he just punched himself right into it.
The first scene is this big old 500-pounder.
She's opening a refrigerator door, so the reveal is the light of the refrigerator through her thighs, and they're gigantic, and it's a cutaway to him drinking a glass of milk going...
Real slapsticky stuff, but if you didn't see it coming, it was a big laugh.
joe rogan
I saw a video of him doing stand-up as Dan Whitney, and I was like, wow, this is so weird.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he had, you know, his shirt tucked in his pants, he had like a polo shirt on.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
The whole deal.
ron white
Yeah, it was really smart, I mean, what he did, and, you know, at one time Larry was just a character that he did in the act, and then eventually Larry took over.
joe rogan
That's like the Diceman.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
Same thing.
ron white
That was a character that he did in his show?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was Andrew Silverstein.
He would go on stage as Andrew Silverstein, and he had a bunch of impressions that he would do.
He would do an impression of Travolta, he would do an Al Pacino impression, and then at the end of his act, he would do the Dice Man.
And the Dice Man was essentially a version, his take on Jerry Lewis and the Nutty Professor.
Remember when Jerry Lewis and the Nutty Professor, he was like this nerdy guy, and he drinks some fucking potion, and all of a sudden becomes this really cool guy?
Like, that was what Andrew did.
He had just become this Dice Man character, and he put the leather jacket on, and oh!
And then the rhymes and all that shit.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
And...
His act was so unique because he was the first guy where you could repeat the punchlines back and everybody liked it, almost like a song.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
Like if someone's singing a song, you like to sing along.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
But for comedy, that was never the case.
ron white
It doesn't work because there's no such thing as a hit joke.
unidentified
Right.
ron white
There's a popular bit, but there's no such thing as a hit joke.
joe rogan
You never want to hear it again.
ron white
Once you know the joke, you know the joke.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
Well, my fans, you know, they bitch at me because I won't do anything that's old, and they want to hear me do Tater Salad, and they want to hear me do some of that stuff, but there are long bits.
There are long stories.
They already know them.
So if I start one, I did it in Madison Square Garden last time I was there.
I opened with it.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ron white
And I hadn't done it in 12 years.
I had to go back and listen to it 10 times because it's a complicated piece of comedy.
It doesn't sound like it, but it is.
You know, it still pays rhythm and timing all the way through this eight-minute-long joke.
Or story.
And so I did it, and when I started it, you'd have thought I was one of the Beatles.
They just went absolutely nuts.
But then I got to drag them through an eight-minute-long piece they already know.
So now they're not, you know, it's not the response I used to get that I loved to get from it.
So if I don't get what I want, then you don't get what you want.
But it was fun to do that one time, but I just won't go back and, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, like Gaffigan is a prisoner to Hot Pockets.
ron white
He's a prisoner.
Well, that's a good prison to be in.
joe rogan
That's a great prison to be in.
It's a funny guy, but he has to do that bit.
ron white
Well, Foxworthy has to do the You Might Be a Rednecks, but he's also got 10,000 of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's fine, though.
That's different.
He's got so many virgins of it.
ron white
And he only does five or six at the end of the show.
I mean, that's been for years that he hasn't hardly done any of that, and that's what he was always known for, which was just a great idea for a bit that now has calendars.
True.
Just crazy, crazy the money he made off that.
joe rogan
Oh, that was a genius bit.
He just nailed it.
He figured out this perfect formula.
Yeah, he's a funny guy, man.
Jeff Foxboy does not get the credit he deserves.
ron white
No.
No, he's probably the most prolific writer that I know, and I also just owe him fucking everything.
joe rogan
He seems like a really nice guy, too.
ron white
He is a sweetheart of a man.
Humble.
Takes his kids to school every day, goes to church, has a mission project that he works on.
Very, very straight.
He was a little wilder when he was in the clubs, you know, but that's the way he was raised.
That's kind of what he went back to.
joe rogan
Where does he live?
ron white
In Georgia, in Atlanta.
joe rogan
Wow.
ron white
In a house the size of a college.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
ron white
I'm not talking about this University of Phoenix shit either.
I'm talking about Duke.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's...
You kind of have to buy one of those when you get that rich.
ron white
Well, you know, he's just the real deal, you know.
But you're right.
People kind of rat on me.
If I hear any other comics...
You know, sometimes they'll rag on the blue-collar tour.
You know, a lot of people didn't like Dan.
But it was all comics, and I've never performed for comics once in my life.
And I tell other comics, here's the worst thing you can do.
Perform for those comics in the back, because that's not whoever's going to come to see you or pay money.
Don't perform for them.
Perform for those people in the seats.
And so, you know, and whatever it was is whatever it was, and he just got popular.
And if it wouldn't have been for that huge popularity, nobody would have given a shit.
joe rogan
Well, that's that thing that happens when something becomes really popular, is that people decide to shit on it, even though it doesn't make...
Like, there's nothing wrong with Larry the Cable Guy's act.
It's a funny act.
He's a funny guy.
ron white
And he's a pace, rhythm, and timing comic, and he's really good at it.
joe rogan
He's very good at it, but I remember when he was huge, and he still is, but I mean, when it was all happening, when it was first happening, and he was doing fucking football arenas, all these...
Like, David Cross wrote some fucking open letter to Larry the Cable Guy, and I'm like, what are you doing?
Like, this doesn't make any sense.
Like, what is he doing wrong?
Like, I don't understand.
What are you trying to say?
That this character, this ridiculous, over-the-top character that he's doing isn't funny?
ron white
He's saying it's racist?
unidentified
What are you saying?
ron white
There were a few people that really took issue with it, and it's just comedy.
If you don't like it, listen to something else.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
ron white
That's the end, you know, the long and the short of it.
You know, it's not exactly my cup of tea, but I know how good he is, still.
You know, and...
I would go out of my way to see Jeff, and I probably wouldn't go out of my way to see him just to see him, but that, his style is not exactly my cup of tea, but that doesn't matter.
I can still see how good he is at it, and saw what he did and the impact that he had.
And then also, the addition, he wasn't one of the original guys.
There was another guy, and then Jeff got rid of him.
Who was the other guy?
joe rogan
You don't remember?
ron white
Nah, I can remember.
joe rogan
You don't want to say it?
ron white
No, I totally would say, but he was a guy from...
I just have a shitty memory.
Sometimes I can remember his name, and sometimes I can't remember his name.
joe rogan
He's the last Beatle.
He's that lost Beatle, that one guy that gets kicked out of the Beatles and fucking, to this day, beats his head against the wall.
ron white
I don't know what he does now, but he was a good comic, but he was on some kind of medication that made him just get in Jeff's face and talk to him nonstop, and Jeff doesn't like that.
And Jeff's like, hey, I'm taking a piss, dude.
Can you give me a minute?
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Like an Adderall type thing or something?
ron white
Yeah, I guess so.
But he was just...
And then he would...
You know, we're doing these big shows.
They're like, well, I put $12 on a cab and nobody's paid me back.
And...
unidentified
You guys doing fucking arenas?
ron white
You're right.
joe rogan
You're pitching about $12?
Well, that's the wrong guy.
ron white
Right.
So, and then Dan came in and just shook things up, you know, and really, you know...
Like it, don't like it, doesn't matter.
He destroyed every night.
joe rogan
What's Bill Ingvall up to these days?
ron white
Yeah, I saw him, we auditioned for the same part in the movie.
Not too long ago, so I saw him at this audition, and it was for, I don't remember the name of the movie, but it was a huge cast, really big people in it, but the role sucked, and I mean, the role was just nothing, and then I got sideways with the people doing the interview, because they said it was a reading, so I didn't memorize the script, you know, and I came in, but I wear these tinted yellow glasses a lot of the time, and she said, can you take off the glasses?
They're too modern for this I'm like, well, if you want me to read it, the glasses are not for show.
They just happen to be yellow.
So whoever's watching it, have them close their eyes and imagine me with shitty glasses on if that's okay, but I'm not going to take them off.
And then she goes, well, I guess if you get this role, you'll cancel your live schedule.
I said, no, I won't.
No, I won't.
I was clear with him.
I said, if I'm going to do it, you've got to do it around my schedule.
I'm not canceling any days for it.
And I'm like, oh, now I'm in a fight at the casting office.
You know, that's probably not going to get this.
I didn't want it anyway.
I'd just come off of roadies.
And that was kind of disappointing.
joe rogan
It's a fucking weird business, man.
And the interaction that you have with the casting director is very strange.
I've had some good ones, really nice conversations, sweet people.
ron white
Oh, me too.
Gail Levine is who cast me for roadies, and she's wonderful.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of them that are wonderful, but there's a lot of them that are not.
ron white
These two chicks were snobs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
I mean, they really were...
You know, they were really talking to me like I had not accomplished a single thing in my life, and maybe if this happened, you know, I'd be able to call myself a man or something.
I mean...
joe rogan
Well, that's their role.
I mean, that's their position.
Their position is...
That's one of the reasons why actors are so fucking crazy, is because you walk into this room, and your life depends on whether or not this person puts a check next to your name, whether they give you the green light.
And so you go in there, and you have to memorize some bullshit that you don't really care about, Most of the time, some nonsense sitcom or some fucking stupid role in a movie.
It's half charming them, half doing this.
I tell Brian Callen to this day that they've fucking ruined him.
I go, it ruined him.
You don't know how to disagree with people.
I'm like, Brian Callen will go into it and he charms everyone in the building because he's so good at auditions.
I'm like, they fucking ruined you.
You don't know how to figure out that this person is not for you.
ron white
Well, you know, now I just turned 60 on Sunday, and now if I had to, if I signed up for a TV show, I'd be signed on until I was 66 or 67. And my dad died at 51, and so that seems like an awful long time.
I mean, if it happened to be someone I really liked, you know, like if If Jay McGraw was producing it, I would probably do it just so I could hang out with him.
But I would have to really, really like somebody that I was going to be hanging with that time because I couldn't just do it.
joe rogan
Who would have ever guessed that Dr. Phil's kid is such a cool motherfucker?
ron white
I know.
joe rogan
We have a mutual friend, Jay McGraw, who's a buddy of bars, both of ours.
He's the fucking coolest guy.
ron white
Yeah, he is.
He's something else.
And so is his dad.
I'm sure he is.
His dad is a hoot.
joe rogan
I'm sure he is, but who would have ever guessed it?
ron white
Yeah, nobody.
Either way, I'm friends with both of them.
But Jay is just solid.
I mean...
I tell you some things he's done for me and start crying.
joe rogan
Aw, don't cry.
I cry so easy.
I'm such a bitch.
Me too.
Don't do it.
I don't cry for sad things, though.
I'm weird.
Like, sad things I can sort of deal with some weird way.
But when things are epic, like epic moments, I'm like, holy shit, don't cry, bitch.
Keep it together.
unidentified
Woo!
ron white
Like Nadia Comaneetz doing those little backflips on the bar.
joe rogan
I would have cried like a bitch.
ron white
Excellence chokes me up.
But, you know, my friend died last weekend, and that kind of stuff I'm okay with.
I mean, I don't get real emotional about that kind of stuff unless I've known you for 50 years.
But Jay is just a great guy.
You know, he's an unbelievably solid dude when he doesn't have to be.
He just brought me back three boxes of killer cigars from Cuba, so how can you not like that guy?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he just went to Cuba.
You can bring those back now.
ron white
Yeah, I think he was on his plane or something.
joe rogan
Yes, yeah, you can kind of do it.
You can kind of bring them back, sort of.
You can get like a few of them.
ron white
Well, the thing is that you can get $200 worth, but the people at customs have no idea how expensive they are.
joe rogan
Right.
ron white
So you can just say this was $185 worth, and they go, oh, that's expensive.
But it's really $1,500 worth of cigars.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, if you pay them in American money, it probably is $150 worth, right?
Like, it's probably a pretty good bargain.
Actually, they probably know what they're worth.
ron white
No, they're really not.
Well, I don't know.
I didn't ask him because he gave them to me, but did you get a deal on them?
joe rogan
How often do you smoke cigars?
ron white
You know, every day.
I smoke one.
I smoke a lot of the way up there.
unidentified
Every day.
joe rogan
I saw you walked in with one.
I was like, God damn it, Ron White, you're a fucking caricature.
Look at you.
What do you got there?
ron white
Oh, that's one of those he gave me, these Bolivars.
joe rogan
Oh, those are good.
That's a strong one.
ron white
Yeah, it is.
And it was that big when I started, so I just smoked some of it and cut it off.
joe rogan
That's a strong cigar.
I like Bolivars.
ron white
I'm going to crank that back up if they're still airing my tire whenever I get out of here.
joe rogan
Yeah, bolivars, and well, it's something about that soil.
There's this one area of Cuba where they grow most of their tobacco, and it's like some, it's not even that big of a place.
It's not like that many acres.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
Just this unbelievable soil.
Like, is it that much different?
Like, are you like a connoisseur?
Are you like a sommelier of cigars?
ron white
Sort of.
joe rogan
Yeah?
ron white
You know, the thing is, the smart guy was Zeno Davidoff of Davidoff Cigars, because he saw it all coming.
And so before it all happened, he moved his rollers and his factory and everything over to the Dominican Republic.
So, whenever they came in and took the land from those people that started these iconic brands, and they just kicked them out of the country with nothing.
Well, they all had seed, so they could grow the same tobacco if they stayed in the same kind of region, the same parallel, like Dominican Republic or even over to Ecuador.
It was still perfect conditions for growing these plants, but what they didn't have was rollers.
And these hand-made cigars are rolled by experts.
I mean, these people in Cuba, they spend their whole lives.
It's a good job.
They have these huge rolling rooms, and these people just roll these perfect cigars, and somebody sits in the front of the room and reads them books.
unidentified
Really?
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
Read some books?
ron white
Yeah, they read...
joe rogan
Like a book on tape, but someone's doing...
ron white
Yeah, somebody's actually up there.
The reader, they come in and shifts and read to them.
unidentified
No shit.
ron white
And they sit there and listen to the stories and roll cigars.
joe rogan
That's fucking fascinating.
I have a book at home that's all photographs of the Cuban cigar business and the Cuban people rolling the cigars, and it's fucking amazing.
They're smoking a fat cigar while they're rolling cigars, you know, and the whole thing is just...
It's got such a...
unidentified
Yeah.
ron white
Yeah, you know, I used to smoke a couple of them a day, and I always smoke on stage.
But actually now, I'm such a dinosaur, they're really starting to crack down on the cigar.
So I'll just light it, and I'll take it out there and put it in an ashtray and let it go out and do the show.
joe rogan
What, because the theaters won't let you smoke in the theater?
unidentified
Yeah.
ron white
Yeah, and they used to give me some wiggle room, you know?
But now, like in Canada, they started saying, well, here's what we do.
We don't know what we're going to fine you, but we're going to hold all of your money until we decide.
unidentified
What?
ron white
If you smoke on this stage.
joe rogan
They told you that before you went up?
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
What a fucking buzzkill.
ron white
Yeah, right.
Jesus Christ.
Well, I'm glad they didn't tell me after.
joe rogan
Jesus fucking Christ.
ron white
But some places, Massey Hall in Toronto, you know, that's fucking Charlie Chaplin was on that stage.
joe rogan
I just did that place.
ron white
Oh, did it?
It's going to be great.
Oh, it's the best.
I love Toronto.
joe rogan
Toronto's incredible.
I just did it two weeks ago with Russell Peters.
Me, Russell, and Big Jay Oakerson.
ron white
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
What a fucking show!
ron white
Yeah.
I don't even know if I've seen Jay.
I've met him.
unidentified
He's a funny dude.
ron white
And I've heard him on radio, right?
He's got a radio show.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got a podcast, Legion of Skanks.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of the greatest names for a podcast ever.
He's a funny dude.
He's a good dude, too.
And again, another one, like a real comic.
You know one when you meet one.
ron white
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
You know, like if I ran into him anywhere, like a life vest in the middle of the ocean.
If I ran into him in Dubai, I'd be like, there's one of us.
ron white
Okay, all right.
I could go with you to the halfway there, but not to Dubai.
joe rogan
You want to go to Dubai?
ron white
No, no.
joe rogan
You want to do shows there?
ron white
No, you know what?
Somebody...
I'm not sure that I wouldn't...
So many people talk about this huge, huge money that they're offering guys to go out to Dubai and India.
joe rogan
They got crazy rules, though, in Dubai.
ron white
They do?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Dubai has crazy religious rules.
Like, if you in any way insult royal families or in any way...
Who was it, Jamie, that talked about that?
Was it...
I think it was Hal Sparks was telling us that he did a gig in Dubai and someone, after he got off stage, told him that he was going to be arrested for something that he said because he referred to one of the royal family as like, sir, rather than your highness?
Like, something as simple as that.
ron white
Yeah, I probably better not go.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
I can't do it.
I just can't.
I won't do colleges.
I won't do anything weird.
ron white
I don't either.
unidentified
Fuck that.
ron white
You know, I hear a Seinfeld bitching about the political correctness of college students these days.
I'm like, why don't you go perform for people your own age?
Maybe that's the problem.
Maybe that's it.
You ever think about that?
joe rogan
Well, they're not your people.
And they're super sensitive, and they're finally disconnected from their parents.
They're looking to call bullshit on everybody.
That's one thing about college kids, is they're looking to be right, and they're looking to establish what you can and can't say, and they're looking to control people, because they're just free for the first time ever themselves.
I probably would have done the same thing.
ron white
Yeah, if I hadn't gotten kicked out of high school and joined the Navy, I probably...
I just...
I can't do, like, regular school work.
I can't do that kind of stuff.
I've never owned a notebook.
This isn't mine.
This is yours.
unidentified
You can have it.
joe rogan
It's for you.
It's a gift.
unidentified
Merry Christmas.
ron white
Merry Christmas.
It's very nice.
joe rogan
Merry Christmas.
So you don't write down on notebooks?
You just come up with stuff on stage?
Or you come up with stuff?
If you have an idea, will you write it on your phone or something?
ron white
No.
No?
No.
My attention deficit disorder is so bad that if I pick up a piece of paper, I'm done.
Then I'll start thinking about the piece of paper, and then I'm off to this fucking egg land.
So it just doesn't work.
I've forgotten so much stuff I know that I could have done on stage.
But once it gets to the stage, I record it.
And I should record these short sets, but I don't.
But I record all the big sets.
joe rogan
You don't record the comedy store sets?
ron white
No.
joe rogan
You can do it on your phone, you know.
ron white
Yeah, well, you know, that's another thing.
I don't know a lot about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but look.
See this?
It's so fucking easy.
See this little thing right here?
This is voice recordings.
Look at that.
These are all my sets for the last, I don't know, six months.
I just keep going.
And I make notes.
I make notes for each one of them.
ron white
Did you have to?
joe rogan
No, you have it.
You have it on your phone.
It's an application that comes with, it's called Voice Memos.
It comes with the phone.
So you have an iPhone.
It's in there.
I'll show you afterwards.
unidentified
I love you.
joe rogan
But it's so easy.
It's so easy, Ron.
You just take that sucker, you press record as you're walking up this stage.
I sit it on the stool right by me.
It records my whole set.
Because there's many, many times that I have a new punchline, or I'll have a thought in the middle of a bit, and what the fuck is that?
And I'll go off on something just free, and I'll say afterwards, thank God I recorded that, because I've got to go listen to that.
Because for me, the store in particular is the best place for that.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the Ice House.
You ever do the Ice House?
ron white
No.
joe rogan
Fuck, you've got to go there.
ron white
I have done it before, but I should get over there.
Do they have an open mic or something?
No.
joe rogan
Well, they have a bunch of shit there, but we do shows there on Wednesdays all the time.
I'm there like January, I think January 4th or something like that.
Is that it?
January 4th?
You want to do it with us, it's always sold out, and it's the fucking best room in the world.
That room, the Ice House room, is set up.
It's the best setup on Earth.
You will fucking murder that place.
ron white
I've done sets there a long time ago, and...
And I know I loved it.
And everybody says it's the best room there is.
joe rogan
It's the oldest comedy club in the world.
ron white
It is?
joe rogan
The oldest comedy club in the world.
It started in 1961, I believe.
1961 or 1962, something like that.
Yeah, it's the oldest concurrent working comedy club on earth.
And it used to literally be an ice house before they had freezers.
People used to buy ice from the ice house.
That's how fucking old that place is.
ron white
Yeah, on the 4th, I'll come out there if you guys got room for me.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, ladies and gentlemen.
ron white
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
Anytime you want to do a show, do it.
I got room for you.
ron white
All right.
joe rogan
Let's have some fun.
ron white
Bring some of that tequila.
Yeah, I got the tequila.
I'll Uber out there with a bottle of that extra Añejo.
joe rogan
Now we're talking.
ron white
Yeah, so you guys look that up.
Number Juan, J-U-A-N tequila.
That's what I've got to hawk.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay.
We're going to buy a case of that shit.
Bring it in here.
Set it up.
Don't they have it at the Comedy Store now?
ron white
I always have a bottle back there, but our distribution is just now getting fixed in California, so I'm sure that they'll pick it up as soon as these guys get all hooked up.
They just got their tequila the other day.
joe rogan
Well, it's a dark tequila, too.
Do you have more than one kind?
ron white
Yeah, I have a Blanco that comes straight out of the faucet, and then a Reposado, which is aged for nine months.
In two different barrels and then blended at the end.
Half of it's a French oak wine barrel, half of it's a bourbon barrel, retired.
And then nine months and then blended together.
Whoa.
That's deep.
And that's what my brother-in-law, that's all he drinks is that one.
And I drink the other one because I come kind of from a Scotch background, so it's a little heavier.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's got like a dark sort of smoky kind of...
ron white
It's dangerous.
unidentified
Dangerous?
ron white
It's a dangerous bottle to have just sitting near you with no protection or, you know, just with a couple people.
Because once you start drinking it, it offers no resistance at all.
You can just sit there and polish off a bottle.
joe rogan
I feel like we shouldn't be having a podcast without having like a little drink.
ron white
Okay.
joe rogan
I feel like we should have a little drink.
Get some Jack Daniels on the rocks.
ron white
Let's do it.
unidentified
Just a little drink.
joe rogan
Just a little drink with Ron White.
ron white
Come on.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a good tequila.
I'm happy you're doing that as well.
It's nice to see comedians branch out and do different shit.
ron white
Well, I'd like to see some of the different stuff I do ever make money, but we have a lot of fun with the tequila, and somebody will come by and buy it one day.
We win everything with it.
joe rogan
How's that not making money?
That tequila's not making money?
ron white
No, uh-uh.
Well, it did.
It made money the third year.
The third year, we made $17,000.
That's the whole year.
How is that possible?
Well, because it's just kind of expensive to get into.
I mean, we're shoestringing it.
I'm not putting my nut in there.
I put money in it.
unidentified
Not too much.
ron white
Not too much.
And so we're just kind of a really slow growth until somebody comes along.
And then if somebody wants it worse than we do, they'll have it.
joe rogan
So for you, is this sort of like a goof, just to get into it for fun?
ron white
No, well, a couple things.
I'd really like to see my brother-in-law, yeah, I'd really like to see it work for him, and he owns more of it than I do.
joe rogan
He's a comic, right?
ron white
Yeah, Alex Romundo.
joe rogan
I don't know Alex very well.
ron white
He's one of my best friends, and he literally, when I started doing stand-up, September 17th, 1986 is when I met him, and I was nervous.
I was going to do four minutes.
First time open mic and went straight to the bar and ordered a beer and a shot of tequila and he handed me the beer and the shot of tequila.
So he was the bartender in the club I started at.
Where was that?
In Arlington, Texas.
joe rogan
What's it called?
ron white
Funny Bone Comedy Club.
I think it's something else now.
But that's where that was my home.
joe rogan
What's Arlington near?
ron white
Dallas-Fort Worth.
Oh, okay.
That's where Texas Stadium is and the ballpark.
joe rogan
Where's that funny bone?
Not funny bone, improv.
They don't have an improv in Arlington, do they?
ron white
No, they have an improv up in Irvine, Irving or something.
Up in North Dallas, there's one.
joe rogan
But isn't there two?
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
What is this?
ron white
There used to be two.
There used to be one right down on Central Expressway, but I don't know if there is any more.
joe rogan
This is the Sinatra Select.
ron white
Frankie, baby.
joe rogan
Where did we get this?
Somebody sent it to us, right?
Did Jack Daniels send it to us?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jack Daniels sent this to us.
They found out we drink Jack Daniels on the show, so they sent us this Sinatra Select.
Oh, yeah, baby.
It smells like toupees.
ron white
Good lord.
joe rogan
Cheers, sir.
ron white
Joe Rogan.
Cheers, buddy.
joe rogan
Jack Daniels to me means fun times and bad decisions.
Almost everything that I've ever done that I should have went, probably should have done that.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
A lot of it's connected to that shit.
There's just so much fuck it in Jack Daniels.
ron white
That's their slogan.
Jack Daniels, fuck it.
joe rogan
Fuck it.
ron white
Just, wow!
joe rogan
Fuck it.
It's like almost every time I go on stage, I have a shot.
A shot of that.
ron white
A shot of this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not the Sinatra stuff, but it kind of tastes the same to me.
It doesn't really taste like Jack Daniels.
ron white
That's really pretty good.
I'm not much of a bourbon guy, but that's pretty tasty stuff.
joe rogan
Finally, weed's legal, Ron White.
ron white
I know.
joe rogan
You happy about that?
ron white
Well, I've been treating it like it was legal for about 50 years.
Me too.
I don't know if it's going to have that much difference.
You know, they had medical marijuana here anyway, and I was actually using medical marijuana to get off of regular marijuana.
joe rogan
How did you do that?
ron white
That worked like a fucking charm.
It's almost like Jesus came from heaven and healed me of this regular marijuana problem that's been haunting me since I was 13 years old.
unidentified
Oh.
ron white
And now that they've legalized recreational marijuana, I'm going to use that to wean myself from medical marijuana.
joe rogan
That's nice.
ron white
And I've got a plan.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
That's like methadone.
ron white
You know what?
It took so long to get here, you know, to even this little seven.
We have seven states now that are...
joe rogan
I think there's more.
How many states, Jamie?
Legal.
Nine now?
jamie vernon
Recreational.
joe rogan
Seven?
ron white
Seven's recreational, but then a bunch of...
You know, in Vegas, they're going to have recreational, but now that they have medical, if you have a card from anywhere, you can go in the Vegas dispensaries.
joe rogan
Well, what's fucked up is there's so many people that are in jail for life in Vegas from the 70s.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
For life.
For, like, getting caught with, like, a dime bag.
Vegas used to be the worst place in the world when it came to pot.
I don't know why.
I guess...
ron white
It was ridiculous.
This is what it was.
They got legalized prostitution, legalized gambling, open carry handguns, liquor available 24 hours a day on the street.
You can actually walk out on the strip at 5 o'clock in the morning, crack open a beer, and bet on the camel toe races, but don't you dare lie to joint because there's children here.
joe rogan
Is that the reason why?
ron white
There's children.
joe rogan
I think they were just trying to discourage people from getting high because it probably cut in on the profits.
Wouldn't you assume that, like, the last thing I want to do when I get high is gamble.
I just look at buildings and I go, look how much money this building costs.
Where are they getting their money?
They must be getting their money from people like me.
People like me that don't know how to gamble.
ron white
Shit, what kind of weed are we smoking here?
joe rogan
That's how I always feel.
Like, I never have the urge to gamble when I'm high, ever.
But if I was drunk and I walked into a casino, I'd be like, let's see what happens!
ron white
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Come on!
ron white
Absolutely.
joe rogan
But I'm not much of a...
Are you a gambler?
I'm good.
unidentified
You good?
joe rogan
There we go.
I'm not much of a gambler.
ron white
You know what?
I played a lot of cards when I first started working in Vegas, and then I got hit a couple of times, and...
Literally, I mean, if you're going to bet $300 a hand, you better have a half million bucks sitting there, or you'll get beat.
Because it just accelerates so high off of a $300 bet.
And so if you're not ready to really bet it, you should just not bet it.
If you can't stay there until it all cycles back through, in case you start on the wrong side of it, then...
Now I'll go.
My mother, my mother's 81. She likes to get hammered and gamble.
She does.
She's always in Vegas.
I was there two weeks ago and I looked over on the side of the stage and my mother was there.
I had no idea she was coming all the way from Cocoa, Florida.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
ron white
And she was just over there waving.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
And she gets hammered and gambles.
ron white
Yeah, she plays blackjack, Texas Hold'em.
And she was one of those people, her and her mother, you know, Jen, you'd think that Jen can't be skill, all skill.
But any time I played my mother in Jen, she takes one card and lays them down.
I'm like, well, how can you do that?
You can't be good and just draw all those cards.
What are you doing?
And my grandmother was worse than her.
So she plays serious poker, but not with serious money.
More than she used to.
And then my son loves to play Texas Hold'em, so if he comes out to Vegas, then I'll go play with him.
joe rogan
I have a bunch of friends that gamble really high, and I don't have that gene.
I'm missing it.
ron white
That's a good one not to have, you know, because you can really feel stupid the next day when you're going, I could have gotten, well, one of them, you know, at least a late-day Ford Escort, you know, or several Escorts.
I'm like, I could have gotten something out of this.
Instead, I got absolutely nothing except free booze.
joe rogan
My friend Dana White has lost as much as a million dollars in a night.
ron white
Good lord.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he won.
Did he say he won seven?
I think he said he won seven one night.
Yeah, I don't get it.
He's got it, though.
Whatever it is, he's got it.
ron white
Way better.
joe rogan
But you know what?
That's also one of the big things with people that have been punched a lot.
He was a boxer for a long time, and a lot of MMA fighters, a lot of people that have experienced a lot of head trauma, they like to gamble.
There's a weird correlation there.
They don't know why.
ron white
I wonder if John Daly ever got hit in the head.
joe rogan
I'm sure somebody punched that guy.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure, right?
Who didn't punch that guy?
He's a big dude, but still, somebody probably punched him.
ron white
He's a...
Yeah, probably so.
But boy, he just has a gambling problem.
He's funny because he was sober for five years and he's a buddy of mine.
I mean, I'm not saying he's a buddy of mine.
Whenever the Masters comes to Augusta...
He's always there and he sells merch.
And it's genius because he's the only person, number one, he's the most famous golfer in the city at that time, is John Daly, more famous than anybody playing in that tournament.
And then he's accessible.
He likes people.
And so he'll go out there and sell $250,000, $300,000 worth of merch out of this huge You know, he's got this big Prevost tour thing and a big old trailer and set up.
joe rogan
Wow.
ron white
His own store at the Hooters right next to the golf tournament.
That's genius.
During that time, yeah.
And, you know, it's all his brands.
And, you know, he just makes a killing doing it.
And it is brilliant.
But I parked my...
Tour bus right next to his.
So that's the time I see him, you know, is whenever he's doing...
Now he's on the senior tour, so I don't even know...
joe rogan
I don't follow golf, but I follow that guy.
You know what I mean?
He's a fun dude.
He gets crazy, does a lot of wild, nutty shit, likes to get hammered.
I like the fact that there's a guy like that out there.
ron white
That can do it.
joe rogan
He might not be the best golfer in the world anymore, but he's still a very good golfer, and he's still this character.
It's part of the thing.
It's not just who wins the golf tournament.
I want to see John Daly play.
I want to see him talk.
I want to see him get crazy.
ron white
Yeah, so, well, he gets crazy, you know, he got sober for a few years, and then he called me the other day, and I was like, oh, that started again.
He was just baked.
And then the last time I was at, last year at Augusta, we got really trashed, and he was doing a podcast or some kind of radio show out of the Hooters, and besides that, he's got a radio show, or did for a while, and And he's just drunk as shit, just trashing the PGA Tour.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
ron white
And I'm like, you know, you really golf on exemptions.
But I didn't say anything to him.
But, I mean, he's just either over-the-top sober or over-the-top drunk.
He can't be...
And he's also just dead honest.
Will not lie to you to make you feel better.
Will not lie to you to make you feel bad.
He just won't lie.
He talks about how he feels and, you know, he's just one of those guys that you know.
And that's why he's so popular.
That's why the people love him.
joe rogan
We could all use more of that.
All of us, right?
ron white
I don't know, man.
I think I could use less.
I think I'm going to start lying more in 2017. Just stay drunk and keep lying.
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
That should be a t-shirt.
ron white
Stay drunk and keep lying.
That's a great one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know what you mean.
At a certain point in time, you go, how much fucking sand is left in this goddamn hourglass?
What are we doing with it?
ron white
Right.
You know?
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
We're on a continued path of improvement and spiritual enlightenment, or do we eventually go, hey, guys, there's a cliff coming up.
Let's just have a drink.
There's a fucking cliff.
There's a cliff right over there.
ron white
We're both looking at it.
That's what Margo and I are saying is that we're already dead.
That's how fast it goes.
We're already dead.
So while we got this last couple of minutes here, let's have some fun.
Let's not forget.
I buried some really close friends right next to each other about a year and a half ago.
And that broke my heart.
I didn't want to do stand-up anymore.
Just horrible stuff.
And then my buddy that died this weekend, I saw him three days before at a party, and he was fine.
He was laughing.
He's fit as he can be.
He plays hockey.
He's 69 years old, but he was just really, really...
He ate a hamburger without the bun while I was sitting there with him, and I was like, well, I bet he regrets that.
And I was looking back and thought, fuck, I should've eaten that fucking bun.
And then, boom, dead in three days.
joe rogan
What's that actor guy that just died recently?
Alan Thicke.
ron white
That's who it is.
joe rogan
That's who it is?
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Alan Thicke was on Fear Factor.
He was a sweetheart.
ron white
Oh, he's a- Such a charming guy.
He's the most charming human being.
And I don't, you know, when I met him, I'm really good friends with John Paul DeGioia, who owns Patron and Paul Mitchell, and he is just a biker.
That made billions of dollars.
Just a brilliant man.
So he has these men's knights that are kind of a league of extraordinary rich dudes.
But every once in a while an entertainer sneaks in there like me and Alan.
So the first one I went there, I recognized Al, of course, because he was a hugely famous television star when I was watching television even.
But what attracted me was just him as a man, you know, just his charisma.
He's just one of those guys that can, you know, just a man's man, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just want to hang around him.
I was really shocked.
I was really shocked at how nice and friendly he was.
He lost.
He had to do some physical things.
He had to climb on something on the side of a building or something like that.
He wound up losing.
Took it like a champ.
Smiling the whole way.
ron white
He was playing full contact hockey with fake knees.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
ron white
Christ!
joe rogan
He got his knees done?
ron white
Yeah, and he's still playing hockey.
They told him not to.
But he's like, what am I going to do?
So it works pretty good.
But he was playing hockey with his son when he died.
And his son told me this, and it was really funny.
He goes, while he was on the fucking stretcher, putting him in the ambulance, he goes, sorry guys, I'm an asshole!
Just for stopping the game.
And then he was dead 15 minutes later.
But he got a laugh on the way out the door.
And people were saying, man, what a tragic thing.
He died quick.
And I've had two friends die slow.
You don't want any part of that.
So quick, that's when we all agree with that.
Quick.
We want to go quick.
We want to go quick.
And that's what he did.
And when his son was with him, when he took his last breath, I think that's a good thing.
And I think his son will think it is, too, when he looks back on it, if he doesn't already.
joe rogan
You know, a real touchy subject, right?
People dying.
It's real touchy.
And it's also real touchy, like, what we think is going to happen after that.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
There's people that are, like, real sensitive about what they think is going to happen.
And whether it's nothing.
A lot of people are, like, convinced it's nothing.
And I'll say it to you with such fucking conviction.
Listen, when you die, it's nothing.
It goes dark.
ron white
I know for a fact that's not true.
Because I lived in a haunted house.
If there's a haunted house, then somebody, there is an afterlife.
Because there was definitely a haunted house.
joe rogan
Where'd you live?
ron white
It was a lake house outside of Austin on Lake LBJ in Kingsland, Texas.
And we had to sign documents at closing saying that it had been told to us that it was a haunted house.
You have to do that in Texas.
Yeah.
And they'd had two mediums, and I'm an extra large.
But two different mediums came in and said the same exact thing.
The ghost's name is Whitey Sour.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ron white
And he was the barber for the town, and they couldn't tell why he was still there, but he was obviously there.
He could take...
And he would do these things in front of people.
You could take a pot of water right out of the tap, put it on the stove, stove turned off, and just sit there and wait.
And it'd start to vibrate.
And then it'd vibrate to where the waves came in from the center to the middle and then bounce up in the middle.
And then you could get a hold of it, because you're obviously stronger than the ghost, you could settle it back down and let go of it, and he would do it again.
And I know that, I mean, I happen to just know that, to be a fact, that I lived in a haunted house.
joe rogan
How many people do you think have actually lived in a haunted house, and how many people are just fucking crazy?
Because that's the problem.
If you really did live in a haunted house, and I believe you did, You know that some people who have told similar stories are just fucking crazy, and that might be the problem.
The problem is trying to differentiate between real, unusual experiences, which may or not be possible, that can happen to anybody.
Just because it hasn't happened to you, or it hasn't happened to me, I'm walking through life assuming that it's bullshit.
But if it did happen right in front of you, you'll go, holy shit, how am I going to describe what this is?
How many people are pretending things like that are happening now?
ron white
I don't know, you know, but it's just something that I've always been able to say after I've lived there, that I know for a fact that something happens afterwards.
And I had a talk with Whitey.
I bought the house and was still making payments to his daughter.
and whenever we first moved there, my girlfriend at the time, her uncles helped move her stuff down there, and they had a bunk bed set up in my son's room, but they didn't want to have a mattress on the bottom but not on the top, and he put his shoes up there, and during the night, for no reason, the shoes got pushed off and fell and hit him in and during the night, for no reason, the shoes got pushed off and fell and hit him Fucking Whitey.
Fucking Whitey.
And so the next day, I walked into that room, and I said, Whitey, listen I'm going to make a deal with you I love it that you're here.
It's fine with me.
We have one of his chairs that we wouldn't let anybody sit in.
It was his chair.
I said, I'm going to tell you something right now.
You fuck with my little boy, I'm going to hit your daughter in the mouth.
Because I saw her every month when I made the payment, so if he was going to jack with my little kid, I was going to fucking punch some teeth in.
joe rogan
You're going to punch his daughter?
Not really.
ron white
Not really.
joe rogan
But it's a good threat to a ghost.
You threaten a ghost.
That's so gangster.
ron white
Yeah.
You know what?
And he never, never, ever saw any activity in that room again.
joe rogan
My grandparents had a house where a guy died in the house, and they always claimed that they saw him.
He was like a guy who rented a room in their attic.
And he died and my grandmother always would swear that she could like hear him walking around up there and he'd be there You know if there is we know that all this is like most people hear ghost stories They go get the fuck out of here.
It's because so many ghost shows I mean how many times can you watch a person go into a basement with a one of those night vision Screens on and look at nothing and go.
What did you hear that?
What was that?
ron white
Oh my god Oh, they'll have entire television shows dedicated to one thing and like an egg will move an inch over a year or something.
joe rogan
I think it would be super arrogant to assume that it's not possible that ghosts are real.
That you just haven't experienced them yet.
Most people haven't experienced them.
All sorts of types of life, right?
There's people that are born with birth defects that make them tiny, and other people are born with gigantism, and death is, and life itself is not like this perfect mathematical science.
It's filled with all sorts of mistakes and errors and weird shit.
If there's a transition between this stage of life and the next stage of life, would we assume that it would be perfect?
No.
If there is a spirit or some sort of a soul in people, we would assume that that transition sometimes misses.
Sometimes you get caught in the howling in between the worlds, and you just ricochet back and forth off of both places.
ron white
Well, you can't unsmoke that joint, can you?
joe rogan
I can't.
unidentified
Not anymore.
joe rogan
Not anymore.
ron white
Hey, you know what?
I'll tell you something.
It's kind of an interesting story.
My uncle, who was a preacher, a Southern Baptist preacher, a brilliant man, has three doctorates, psychology, philosophy, theology.
unidentified
Wow.
ron white
And fun, fun, fun, fun guy to talk to.
And was at one time the president of the Southern Baptist Convention.
Dr. Charles Pollard is his name.
And, uh, which is a very, very powerful position to have in the South, uh, to be the president of that convention.
Uh, and, uh, so I was talking to him.
He, this is, that was a long time ago and, and, uh, they have a lot of disagreements.
He kind of had a nervous breakdown and he showed up at My grandmother's birthday party and he had a riding a Harley with no shirt on.
And then he went down and he taught the gospel according to Charlie for a while.
But this is what he said.
Because we were just talking about this exact thing.
He goes, well, Ron, here's what I believe.
I believe that when we die, we're going to be surprised.
That's all he's got.
That's all he's got.
After all these books, all these things, years of the time, you know, that's all he's got.
No fucking clue.
joe rogan
You know, when I was young, I was real dismissive of religion because I was real religious at one point.
When I was like real young, I went to Catholic school.
And it was a good experience because it was a bad experience.
So I realized these mean, flawed people that are teaching what they think is supposedly God's word.
And I became a very anti-religious person for a long time.
Where I thought of religion as being like an ideology that controls your brain.
But as I've gotten older, one of the things that I've been thinking more and more is that although the Bible's definitely been altered by a bunch of different people, there's a difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament, and even the translations of the Old Testament, they were trying to say something.
They wrote this fucking thing down and passed it down more than anything else.
Like, the Bible's almost like the story of life.
Because if you go that far back, There's no other stories.
unidentified
You go far back as the Old Testament, there's no other fucking stories.
ron white
There are no books.
joe rogan
You have to go to other cultures that had similar stories.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
And they're all the same thing, like the Epic of Gilgamesh.
So similar to Noah and the Ark.
There's all these...
ron white
Right.
All these similarities.
joe rogan
They were trying to tell us about something.
ron white
Right.
And most of it was be a good person, you know?
I mean, that was Christ's message.
I grew up watching my uncle preach, and so when I was a kid, I loved church.
I mean, I loved it, loved it.
I loved to go watch him preach.
I'd go watch him preach on Sunday, Sunday night, and go watch him preach on Wednesday.
And charismatic, funny, and just a...
And he comes from nowhere.
His mother was a hooker.
Wow.
But all a self-made man.
So I loved it.
And then we moved and I went to a regular Baptist church and I was like, this fucking sucks, man.
Get me out of this motherfucker now.
Where's the youth group fun?
You know, we used to have these youth groups that were more fun than I had anywhere else.
We went on a choir tour where we had to raise money for it, selling pens or whatever the fuck it was.
And then we all piled on a shitty bus and took off singing in churches.
And And it was, you know, it was freedom.
It was total freedom because I could buy, I could eat whatever I wanted.
I had $3.50 at 13 years old, 12, 13 years old, 11 maybe, to spend in any restaurant I wanted.
I could get whatever I wanted.
So every meal, chili and french fries.
That's all I want, baby.
You just go bring me the chili and the fucking french fries and pile them up right here.
But...
But once I found out that there are these really great orators and there are some really...
joe rogan
Terrible ones.
ron white
Horrible.
joe rogan
Well, it's like comics.
It's like people who write books or it's actors, all of the above.
There's always a bunch of that.
ron white
He made no bones about it, too, that if somebody was coming in to look at him to preach at a bigger place...
He would pull stuff out of his repertoire, you know, because he's got a killer 45 on something particular that he murders with.
And he didn't make any bones about that to me.
He goes, yeah, they're coming in to watch me, so I'm going to do my life story or whatever, which is great, you know.
But...
joe rogan
Well, like you were talking about with your material, that it takes like three years to really ripen.
I'm sure that's the same thing.
ron white
He had to come up with a new show every fucking Sunday.
And then you couldn't do the same thing Sunday night or the same thing Wednesday night because you had people like me at every show.
joe rogan
It's a lot of jazz, right?
A lot of improvisation.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of recalling facts.
ron white
It's kind of like Dr. Phil is, because Dr. Phil does three of those shows a day with no script.
Has no idea what he's saying walking into it.
No idea what's going to happen when he walks into it.
And I'm going to tell you right now, nobody else could do it.
joe rogan
You could do it.
ron white
Shut the fuck up.
How dare you.
I could not do it.
I couldn't do it.
You know how many days a week, a month, I'm actually interesting?
I'm like four.
And the rest of them, I'm getting a fucking...
joe rogan
You're gonna make me cry.
ron white
I'm getting a dial tone the rest of the time.
unidentified
You're gonna make me cry.
ron white
I'm getting a dial tone, I'm telling you.
But Doc, I mean, just three hour long shows a day with no script.
joe rogan
You could do that all day long.
ron white
Fuck no, I couldn't.
I couldn't do it once.
joe rogan
Yes, you could do it just like this.
Like you're doing it right now.
There's no reason why we can't get a direct run away.
ron white
You haven't noticed you're carrying this conversation?
unidentified
I'm not!
joe rogan
There's no fucking way I am!
That's the weed.
The weed's fucking with you.
You've been telling some amazing stories.
How dare you?
Ron White, you can do it.
There's no reason why.
Somebody figured out that Dr. Phil can do it.
He can do it.
He did it.
He's doing it.
He's currently doing it.
Somebody figured out that he can improvise about health and all that.
You could do what you're doing right now all day.
Every day, whenever you want to do it.
ron white
Yeah, but you don't need any help.
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
I need a fucking shitload of help.
ron white
Well, I know, but you're going to still make it home either way, you know.
joe rogan
But these are conversations, Ron.
There has to be banter, and in banter, you're fucking hilarious.
Like, how dare you?
ron white
You know what?
I got offered a radio job one time, and it was probably for twice what I was making as a stand-up comic, and it was with Eddie Fingers in Cincinnati.
And that was really, it was $125,000.
And I'm like, that's a lot.
That's a bunch of cash to me at the time.
joe rogan
You start thinking about getting a boat.
ron white
Right.
I might just buy a boat.
Boat, you know, mistress.
I got a new car.
Ooh, mistress.
That's the thing about money is that you think that the rich people have twice as much money as you, but they don't.
They have a thousand times more money than you.
The really rich people?
Yeah, so 125. But anyway, but what I realized was that they saw me come in once a year and murder on their radio show.
But...
Getting that out of me every day?
There's no way.
You got five days a week?
joe rogan
This is where we differ.
We have a problem here.
Because I fucking hang out with you all the time now at the comedy store.
How many times have we drank together?
A dozen?
At least.
Maybe two dozen?
Every fucking time it's been this.
It's been awesome.
ron white
Oh, well, but, you know...
I'm just saying don't count on it.
joe rogan
I'm fucking counting on it.
How would you possibly count on you not being you?
ron white
I don't know.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense at all.
ron white
Yeah, I don't know.
What happened to that joint?
joe rogan
Oh, we got another one, man.
Fuck that one.
That one's gone.
I like how Ron White thinks.
This is important.
We're already struggling with reality.
Ron White thinks, notice you're the one carrying the conversation.
He's telling like 10 epic stories.
God damn it, Ron White.
Why is it that something...
I don't want to make you embarrassed.
But why is it something that all the great comics have?
Where there's this, like, ridiculous humility in a lot of ways.
You know?
I had a conversation with Dave Chappelle once.
Dave Chappelle and I were talking.
We went to this fucking Hollywood party.
That was like deep up in the hills.
It was Naomi Campbell's birthday party.
It was a 50-foot tall naked photo of Naomi Campbell.
We had to go to a place, and we had to park.
And then from where we parked, we had to get in a bus that took us to this fucking house.
This house was ridiculous.
And I get up there with Dave, and I was like...
It was so weird.
It was like, Demi Moore was there, and Ledney Kravitz was there, and all these famous people were there.
I saw like a ton of famous people.
And I'm like, dude, this is so weird.
There's like this gathering of famous people.
This is so strange.
He goes, yeah, man, I would never be one of those.
I don't want to be one of those.
I go, what are you talking about?
You're the most famous person in this fucking room.
And he looked at me like, what?
And I go, dude, you're the most...
We're both...
I mean, we're beyond high.
We're beyond high.
And we're hanging out at this famous party.
I go, dude, you're the most famous person here.
He goes, Joe, stop lying to me, man.
unidentified
I'm like, there's no doubt you're the most famous person here.
ron white
I was playing Denver, and he was working out stuff at the Comedy Works in Denver, which is one of the best comedy clubs in the country, too.
joe rogan
Oh, one of the best.
ron white
It's right up there at the Ice House.
He was in there all week doing sets, and so he called.
And I paid to see him in Santa Barbara like a year and a half ago.
unidentified
Wow.
ron white
We were walking down the street, and it was for sale, and we walked up.
joe rogan
You just didn't even know he was there?
unidentified
No.
ron white
Oh, wow.
Me and my wife walked in, sat down, and just howled.
I mean, kind of like you in a way, he'll walk out on some pretty thin limbs and just jump on them.
And has a punchline to back it up with.
And I was real, real impressed.
And then he called me when I was in Denver and said, would you come out and do a set?
Because I was coming in a day early in front of me.
And I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, I'd love to.
But anyway, after a set here one night, I hear it like we're at the comedy store.
I was leaving, and I was walking up to my car, and he's got a bunch of people in a big old huge SUV. And he goes, Ron White, you're coming with us.
I said, no, I gotta go home.
No, you don't.
You're coming with us.
You have to come with us.
You are coming with us tonight.
Get in this car.
And I'm like, okay.
So we went to some club.
Couldn't tell you where it was.
I mean, you know, not that far, downtown somewhere, but really no door, no name, you know, just to get through it.
And what we did is we went out and we saw how much fun it was to be Dave fucking Chappelle.
You know, I go to the comedy store because I'm famous when I'm there.
You know, I'm not famous everywhere.
He's famous everywhere.
And he's also, you know, fun about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ron white
You know, some people, I mean, he'll go engage every table and talk to them.
I mean, he's not, you know, come here, come here.
Oh, get away, get away, get away.
joe rogan
No, he's a great guy.
He's a weirdly great guy.
He always has been, too.
I think I met Dave when he was like 18 or something.
He was always like, just a super nice guy.
Just always been very genuine, you know, and in the amazing pressure that you face and being, like in a lot of ways, the voice of a comedic generation.
When he was doing Chappelle's show, it was sort of the defining show of that generation.
There's really no parallel.
He does like, what, two seasons?
Did he do two seasons?
ron white
Two seasons.
And then he had a $50 million contract and he showed up in Africa or something.
I don't know exactly what happened.
joe rogan
And had some of the best sketches ever.
That one, the blind guy who didn't know that he was black and he was a white supremacist.
unidentified
Holy shit!
joe rogan
I mean, he was in the KKK and he didn't know that he was black because he was blind.
It is one of the funniest bits the fucking universe has ever seen.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
And he did it for two years, and it sort of, when they tried to change his show, and he just walked away.
That's sort of like...
ron white
You know what?
I don't know that anybody tried to change his show.
joe rogan
I know they did.
ron white
You do?
Okay.
But what I... You know, that...
He couldn't go into stand-up because they wouldn't leave him alone.
You know, he couldn't start going...
Because right then, he was ripe to play every major...
Whatever he wanted to sell, he could sell it.
Still can't.
But they would...
Rick James, bitch!
They would just scream at him the whole time.
And I can only imagine how frustrating that would be.
joe rogan
But I... That happened for a little while, yeah.
I saw that.
ron white
But now, it's security heavy.
I mean, if you want to get thrown out of his show, there's a good chance you will.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
Because there's a bunch of big guys walking around, and then they try to stay pretty low.
But if you think it's going to be about you and Chappelle exchanging pleasantries, you're wrong.
You're going to be shut up and then thrown out.
But, and I get it.
I'll have somebody thrown out of one of my shows in two seconds.
joe rogan
Sometimes you just have to.
I saw Chris D'Elia's Instagram the other day, and there was some couple that was leaving, and apparently they were just really rude to him during his show, and they were yelling out, you're a loser and all this shit.
And he...
You know, Chris is so silly.
Chris is so silly.
He's on stage.
He's like, bye, you fucking idiots!
And he's laughing about it.
He's like, one more thing, one more thing.
Bye, you fucking idiots!
And the whole crowd starts cheering.
It's so ridiculous.
But this couple, apparently, they just wouldn't stop heckling him.
They wouldn't stop calling him a loser.
Imagine paying to go see somebody and then calling him a loser.
unidentified
Like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Like, what the fuck?
Like, what happened?
What happened?
Who needs a hug?
Who needs a hug first?
ron white
I got a pretty zero tolerance policy.
I mean, because I'm not going to banter with you at all.
I'm going to ask you to shut up.
And if you don't do that, then I'm going to tell you this.
Things have been set in motion that I cannot stop because you didn't listen to what I said last time.
And I can't because if I do that, somebody's already walking over and they're going to get thrown out.
joe rogan
Well, I'm like talking about some fucking Mortal Kombat.
ron white
Goddamn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, some people...
You know, there's a lot of different kinds of people, folks.
Some of them just don't get it.
They're just too frustrating to interact with.
They just want to make it about them and scream out, interrupt a show for whatever reason.
And it's not their fault, maybe.
It's the way they were raised.
Maybe it's the fucking genetics they were handed.
ron white
They don't go to the theater a lot.
joe rogan
There's a lot of things.
They might be drunk.
They might be fucked up.
They might have anxiety.
Who knows?
ron white
Yeah, I think sometimes they think it helps.
You know, to give the comedian something to do.
I think they think it helps.
I don't think they're trying to stump the comic most of the time.
Because me, or you, handling a heckler is like playing ping pong with a chicken.
It's so fucking easy.
But I just don't want to do it.
I don't want to spend any time doing it.
I want to spend all my time entertaining these other bunch of people.
joe rogan
I agree.
But occasionally, I will open to the fact that there's a weird exchange between a comedian and an audience.
It's a weird exchange.
And occasionally, people say shit that's fucking funny.
It is unfortunate.
ron white
I should be more like that than I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm so fucking humorless.
Because I bounce laughs off a laugh, so that's what I do.
I dribble.
I'm going to pace, rhythm, timing, boom, boom, boom.
So I'm going to start you here, I'm going to dribble you to here, and then I'm going to be slamming you.
But if you stop me...
Then I gotta go, okay, fuck.
joe rogan
You're right.
ron white
And I'm gonna start dribbling down here.
But I'll get there quick.
But I mean, it always makes me mad.
And it shouldn't make me mad.
That shouldn't be the reaction, but it does.
It makes me mad because I have what I want.
joe rogan
Right.
ron white
And you're fucking it up.
joe rogan
That definitely does happen.
That happens too.
I just think every now and then someone says some funny shit.
ron white
You're right.
I should.
I mean, I should.
Lighten the fuck up.
I'm a fucking comedian.
joe rogan
I had this one joke.
It was this one time, one of the best heckles ever.
It was in New Jersey.
I was doing a theater in Jersey.
And I had this one joke about Kim Kardashian meeting the aliens.
And I'm like, well, who do you think is the most famous woman in the world?
And this guy goes, your mother.
And it was the way he said it.
It was like the perfect timing.
Or maybe he might have said your mom.
Your mom.
I think he said your mom.
I was like, this is fucking hilarious.
Your mom.
Anytime you could say your mom.
Was it your mom?
That's funny.
I mean, that's 80% of the banter that Ari, Shafir, and I have with each other.
Was it your mom that sucked all those dicks?
No?
Okay.
The guy never heckled again.
It was the one heckle in one show.
It was like perfect.
He went in like a ninja.
He dropped a nuclear bomb.
ron white
Boom.
joe rogan
Your mom.
And it got a laugh.
It got a laugh.
ron white
Now, did you tell him that don't try it again?
joe rogan
No, I admitted it was really funny.
Whenever you can say that, that's fucking funny.
ron white
I wonder why I can't do that.
But I sure can't.
It just pisses me off.
joe rogan
Sometimes.
I agree.
I agree.
I'm not a heckler supporter.
ron white
I think you are.
unidentified
I'm not.
joe rogan
I'm just saying what a live show is really is some weird interaction, right?
And I think people like to know that you're right there.
ron white
Well, when I'd been doing stand-up for six years and I was headlining Comedy Club, I prayed to God somebody would heckle me because I couldn't get to 45 minutes without it.
So, you know, I needed about four or five minutes of jabber and asking Hayseeds where they're from, which is pure third-grade comedy.
And I'm clearly a fourth-grader.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How long is it before someone does a hologram show where you go to a theater and the holograms are so good that it looks like it's really Ron White?
ron white
It's already there.
joe rogan
But you're on the other side of the planet.
ron white
Right.
It's already there.
joe rogan
You think so?
ron white
Yeah.
It's on Rodeo Drive.
There's a company over there on Rodeo Drive that are doing the most amazing...
The thing is, it still needs to evolve.
joe rogan
Right.
ron white
You know, it's like these...
Well, anyway, it still needs to evolve.
joe rogan
Did you see when they did it on CNN? When they used it for the elections one year?
They had, like, Wolf Blitzer in the hologram.
Do you remember that, Jamie?
What was that about?
They tried that, like, one time.
And they're like, this is freaking people the fuck out.
Like, what are we, Star Wars?
Is he gonna beam up now?
What the fuck is Wolf Blitzer doing in a hologram?
Can't you just put a camera on him wherever the fuck he is?
Why do you have to show me a hologram?
Like, what's going on here?
ron white
People just...
Right?
Well, but now they just can't do it for as long as they want to.
joe rogan
Right.
ron white
So without it just costing a gillion dollars.
But eventually, you can do it on your fucking phone.
unidentified
Wow.
ron white
You can project an image of something you're thinking right there in front of you.
joe rogan
Look at this woman.
She's glowing.
She's like, help me, Obi-Wan.
You're my only hope.
ron white
This is my pussy.
joe rogan
CNN's Jessica Yellen via hologram from Chicago.
It's a really fucking cool-looking hologram, but she's got a weird...
ron white
Oh, I didn't even know we were watching something about holograms.
I thought you were talking to me.
You're watching television.
unidentified
Look at it.
joe rogan
It's right there.
That's that woman.
That was when they did it on CNN, where they had her as a...
This was during the McCain-Obama.
ron white
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
And she's a hologram.
They did this on CNN. She's glowing.
This is so freaky.
This is so sci-fi.
I think America was like, no.
No more of this.
ron white
You know what else it is?
It's really bad radio.
Because nobody can see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's a lot of people watching on YouTube, too.
We'll tell them.
ron white
Okay.
joe rogan
This is also on YouTube.
ron white
Wait, what are we going to tell them?
joe rogan
CNN's Jessica Yellen via hologram.
Just Google that and you can watch this video.
CNN hologram first is a video we're watching.
ron white
And you can play that.
Record it and play it while you're listening to Joe and I's banter.
joe rogan
Just tell me what you're seeing.
Cut it.
Does this freak you out when you see this person with this blue glow around them?
Like there's some fucking alien.
What are they preparing us for?
ron white
It looks like money to me.
joe rogan
I don't want to go straight Alex Jones here, but...
I would say, that looks crazy.
How long before people start doing stand-up like that?
Where the audience will heckle, but it won't work because you're not really there.
So it'll only work if everybody shuts the fuck up.
ron white
You just keep on moving.
Just blow on a thread.
Sometimes I feel like that.
joe rogan
Well, what they'll do is they'll film you doing a set somewhere in front of a crowd with this hologram thing projecting it.
So you'll do a live show, but the live show is only going to be for the people right in front of you.
ron white
Instead of a DVD, it'll be something that maybe I could be in your living room at some point for a limited amount of dates.
No, I still can if you have a lot of money.
But eventually, I'm just saying, where does it stop?
If you can do that right there, then eventually you'll be able to do it on a small scale.
I brought my drone.
joe rogan
There's a drone now that'll follow you and take pictures of you.
Have you seen that?
It floats above you and films pictures of you.
So you can film stuff.
ron white
I have one.
joe rogan
You have one of those?
What do you do with it?
ron white
Well, lately, now that I live at the Montage in Beverly Hills, I fly it down Beverly Drive and just take footage of it and turn it around, snapshots.
But the thing is, I used to live off a canyon, right?
So if it crashed...
It was just going to go into the canyon.
Now it goes into some kid's head if it fucking falls out of the sky, right?
joe rogan
How often does it fall?
ron white
Never.
But I still can't keep from thinking about it every once in a while.
unidentified
It is fucking weird that you could just have a robot that flies around.
ron white
You can go right over to the Beverly Wilshire and just park it right in any window you want.
And if those curtains are open and you want to watch those people fuck...
They're going to get pissed when they see that goddamn drone, but they don't know who's flying it.
joe rogan
What are we doing?
ron white
And it goes 80 miles an hour.
joe rogan
What are you saying, Jamie?
jamie vernon
It's going to fall out of the sky here in a second.
joe rogan
It's going to fall out of the sky?
jamie vernon
Yes, it's one of the new GoPro drones a couple weeks ago.
joe rogan
Oh shit.
jamie vernon
They were over a baseball field and it took a nosedive.
Didn't hit anybody.
joe rogan
But that's just luck.
ron white
But it didn't fall on Beverly Drive either during Christmas season.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's crazy.
jamie vernon
What the fuck just happened?
joe rogan
So that thing just fell out of the sky.
Did you see the one where the guy...
That looks like bullshit to me.
jamie vernon
That happened, I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan
This looks like bullshit though.
This pose looks like bullshit.
Maybe I'm just too quick to call bullshit.
jamie vernon
Maybe, yeah.
joe rogan
But did you see that one where there was a guy that was on the skiing slopes, and he was in some sort of Olympic competition or something, and the drone fell behind him?
Like right behind him.
He barely missed him.
ron white
But it was a big drone.
joe rogan
Big drone, yeah.
ron white
Yeah, with like a movie camera on it or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, here it is.
So this guy's skiing.
What is this competition, Jamie?
ron white
The Olympics or something.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
And look at that.
ron white
Oh, and he never saw it.
joe rogan
He never saw it.
But it fell right behind him.
Like, this is crazy.
ron white
Oh, it would have killed him.
joe rogan
It probably would have fucked him up, man.
Look at this.
With this thing, and you've seen it in high speed.
First of all, look at that.
Watch.
Boom.
Right behind him.
And it looks like, it's hard to tell with perspective, but it looks like just a few feet.
ron white
It looks like it busted into about a billion pieces.
joe rogan
That would have fucking hurt like hell if that hit him.
Yeah, you can't do that.
ron white
I'm going to quit flying it over Beverly Drive.
I can tell in my gut when I'm doing something if I shouldn't be doing it.
I really do have a little signal inside of me that goes, Ron.
And I rarely listen to it.
I rarely do.
But I think I probably ought to quit flying the drone up and down Rodeo Drive when I can't even see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely don't have that robot monster flying in the sky dropping on people's heads like that thing.
ron white
I took it to the place where Sturgis is.
joe rogan
The bike thing?
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where is it?
ron white
Anyway, there's a little town up there, a little casino town where Deadwood is.
I think it is Deadwood.
joe rogan
How do I not know where Sturgis is?
Where is it?
ron white
It's in Idaho, right?
joe rogan
South Dakota?
ron white
South Dakota, right.
unidentified
People in Idaho go, we're not fucking South Dakota, bro.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's like, that's that big motorcycle thing, right?
Where everybody gets together and they just fucking ride.
ron white
I mean, it's a million things.
I mean, a million people.
This is it.
joe rogan
That is insane.
ron white
See how beautiful this little charming little street's been like this, except for the pavement, since 1785. Holy shit.
And it's always been intact because it's always been a town that always made money and doing something.
So a big gold town, but so it's all intact.
So this is all going uphill where he's going right now.
And it keeps going uphill for a ways.
And then back up to the left...
Way up a hill is the hotel where I'm at.
So I'm going to take my drone and I want to go down that strip and shoot that street, you know, just from one end to the other.
And I had a spare battery in my pocket, and so I took it out front and I took it off from there and I just kind of walked it over like I was flying a kite.
And I get up there and...
And I send it down the street.
I just fly it down there just for a practice run.
And it's, you know, almost a mile.
And then fly it back up.
And then I fly it back down there again, and while it's flying, this really good-looking girl goes, oh, you're the one with the drone scaring everybody.
And I said, the kids love it.
But then I look back around, and it wasn't there.
The drone was gone.
And then I started running down that hill.
I mean, just kind of walking fast going, where is it?
And then I'd send it up, you know, because you can hit an up button and it'll go straight up until you can see it.
And that wouldn't happen.
I was walking down.
And then I looked.
And once the battery gets so low, it just takes over itself and takes us back to where you started from.
It was taken back to the home base.
Which is right in front of that really busy hotel.
It's going to come in.
My little drone's going to come dropping in.
So I got to just huff it.
And I'm a downhill guy.
I am not an uphill guy.
And I see the drone flying over my head towards the hotel.
I can't stop it.
I'm totally out of control.
And I'm just...
unidentified
I can't.
ron white
I mean, I can't stop.
I got to get there.
I got to beat the fucking thing to the fucking hotel.
And I don't.
But it doesn't matter, because it comes down to about an inch or an hour.
It just comes in really slow and just lands.
So I'm bent over, holding a chair, just...
I mean, this is as out of breath as I've ever been in my life.
And this guy goes, is there any way I can get a picture of me while I'm dying?
Is that what you...
joe rogan
So are there drones that can navigate around trees and things?
ron white
These won't hit a wall.
joe rogan
Like they'll come near it and then they'll just stop?
ron white
Yeah, if you have that, you know.
joe rogan
What are we doing?
What are you doing, Ron White?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Why the fuck are we allowing these flying robots to be everywhere?
ron white
Well, it was a big case in Texas.
My son was telling me about it where this guy flew his drone into another guy's yard and he shot it with a shotgun.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ron white
And he's like, well, you're filming my family.
And so now it's, you know, who's the fault?
He doesn't own that airspace.
I mean, it seems like you'd own a foot or two of it, right?
Of your own airspace?
joe rogan
Well, it's a totally new dilemma.
And it's one more piece of technology that brings us, like, weirdly more connected, some sort of strange, almost forced way.
Like, now, we thought the only way to get around was essentially by being on foot, so you could put up a fence.
But now, if you can fly in 3D space, well, where am I allowed to go?
Where am I not allowed to go?
Are you allowed to fly over anybody's house?
How does that work?
And as technology gets closer and closer and closer and closer to whatever the fuck the singularity is, we're going to probably physically be able to do that.
Right now, we can't physically fly around.
It's too difficult to...
Have some sort of a jetpack-type situation.
ron white
Yeah, listen, those empty promises rang hollow years ago, the jetpacks.
joe rogan
They did, but as technology improves, there's a possibility within our lifetime of some sort of propulsion system that works on some sort of a vest that you would wear.
ron white
Next hundred years, all you got to do to see what's going to happen in the next hundred years is look at the last hundred years and that kind of momentum is going to continue straight on until this looks like antique.
Why did they ever do it this way?
joe rogan
A hundred percent.
Everything we're doing is stupid.
Everything.
ron white
So Ron got in a car and drove And they did what?
They met?
You know, I don't know what it's going to be, but...
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
These are like the strangest times ever.
I really feel like every day feels so strange.
Like, the fact that Donald Trump is really the president.
Like, that feels so strange.
ron white
Yeah.
You know, I didn't vote for the president-elect, but I did get my tax estimates two days ago, and when I looked at it, I was like, go Trump!
Now, I don't mean to say that I agree with anything he's ever said in his life, but...
But, you know, I don't know how these really rich guys are getting away with paying 3%, and I'm paying 34% tax on this money.
And, you know, well, he did get elected, so...
I am going to get the benefits of those tax breaks.
I wouldn't trade my country for it, but I'll take them.
joe rogan
It's just fascinating because he's the first truly famous, like super famous guy who ran for president and won.
ron white
No, Reagan.
joe rogan
I don't think Reagan can fuck with Trump in the super famous department.
ron white
Oh, come on.
Reagan was a movie star, dude.
joe rogan
I know, but I mean...
ron white
There was a movie star back when they had three televisions.
I was six or whatever I was.
I don't remember how old I was.
joe rogan
I don't remember how old I was either.
But I remember I was pretty high.
ron white
I'm not good with numbers.
joe rogan
I definitely wasn't voting age during the administration.
But do you really think Reagan was as big a star as Trump is?
That Apprentice, Celebrity Apprentice show?
That was a big hit.
ron white
Worldwide, no.
Worldwide, no.
But U.S. wise, yes.
Absolutely.
Every bit is famous.
And so was Schwarzenegger.
joe rogan
Schwarzenegger for sure.
If Schwarzenegger ran for president, if he was allowed to, he's not allowed to because he's born in Austria, he'd win.
He'd fucking win.
I think he'd win.
I think if Trump can win, for sure Schwarzenegger can win.
ron white
And I think he taught us something very important that I think changed the lives of a lot of people.
You can't unfuck the babysitter.
joe rogan
Can't do it.
ron white
You can't un-fuck the babysitter.
joe rogan
You can't take that back.
ron white
Yeah, you can't.
joe rogan
It is what it is.
ron white
So don't fuck the babysitter.
joe rogan
It is what it is.
ron white
Look what can happen.
joe rogan
But people still love him.
They know what he is.
He's, you know...
ron white
That's why I'm...
He smokes cigars at this place where I smoke cigars sometimes, and that's why I'm walking out of a building.
I said, hey, governor.
He didn't say anything.
But wouldn't you still call him governor?
joe rogan
I would call him whatever he wants, sir.
I met him once.
I think I probably called him brother.
unidentified
Brother.
joe rogan
Because they call everybody brother.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
But he was super cool.
I met him at the UFC. I was like, I'm shaking his hand.
I'm like, goddamn, shaking hands with Arnold motherfucking Schwarzenegger.
It's one of those weird ones.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Certain people you meet and you go, whoa.
Certain people you meet and you're like, hey man, what's up?
Nice to meet you.
And other people you meet and you're like, I can't fucking believe I'm meeting Sylvester Stallone.
It's just weird, you know?
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
It's true.
You know, like that Jack Nicklaus guy.
Or Jack Nicholson, rather.
Either one.
One of them's dead, right?
The golfer died, didn't he?
ron white
Nicholas, yeah.
joe rogan
He died?
ron white
Jack Nicholson, yeah.
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
ron white
Jack Nicholson's alive.
Arnold Palmer died.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
ron white
Jack's fine.
Sorry, Jack.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Everybody.
ron white
If you're listening.
unidentified
Everybody involved.
ron white
If you're listening.
joe rogan
Jack Nicholson, though, the actor.
Like, if you met him.
ron white
And he's alive, too.
joe rogan
He is alive, too.
ron white
All these people are alive, Joe.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
I knew somebody died.
Couldn't figure out which golfer.
ron white
Yeah, Arnold Palmer.
joe rogan
But that's one, if you meet Jack Nicholson, you're going to freak out a little bit.
You have to.
ron white
Yeah, he played through our group at Bel Air one time when I was playing golf with Doc, and him and Joe Pesci played through our group.
joe rogan
What was that like?
ron white
You know what?
They just played through our group.
It was a par three that I played the course a lot with Doc, and But they turned around.
They both gave you the movie star look.
It wasn't much, but it was definitely two really, really, really cool, famous people.
It's not often I spazz out.
About meeting somebody, but I was like the grand marshal at Talladega, and Margo sang the national anthem, so we were like the king and queen of the Talladega Speedway that weekend.
They were filming.
Talladega Nights was about to come out, and Farrell was there.
And we went to this dinner.
It was by all these famous chefs, supposed to be really nice, and he was in line.
And I just started walking towards him like a zombie.
I had nothing to say.
I had no plan.
And then I just stopped myself and went, Ron, would you go sit down?
Jesus Christ.
But I'm such a huge fan.
I know some other famous people, but Farrell, that's a big deal.
Every time I'm around him, and I've been around him several times, is Dan Aykroyd.
And every time I'm around Dan, I say something completely fucking stupid because I'm just a gigantic...
I mean, I couldn't even tell you how big an Aykroyd fan I am.
joe rogan
He's one of the fucking blues brothers.
ron white
Well, he's Dan Aykroyd.
Come on.
But that was when I was stopped.
We were stopping parties to play this stuff.
joe rogan
Stopping parties?
ron white
Yeah, there would be a party going on Saturday night.
They would stop it and turn on Saturday Night Live and watch...
Belushi and Ackroyd and Bill Murray.
Anyway, it was amazing.
But every time I'm around him, I always say something.
I know what you mean.
It's just like the most unimpressive I could possibly fucking be.
It's too uncomfortable.
Yeah.
I'm a comic.
He's like, yeah, you told me that last time.
I'm like, okay, fuck!
Fuck!
Oh, come on, Lord.
Give me something.
joe rogan
There's this fucking interview that they did recently with Jerry Lewis.
It is hilarious.
Have you seen it, Jamie?
Apparently, they annoyed the fuck out of him, right?
Like, Jerry Lewis is in his 90s.
And they were interviewing a bunch of people that are in their 90s that still work.
And they interviewed Jerry Lewis.
And I guess...
They had annoyed him so bad in bringing in a bunch of assistants and lights and cameras and shit.
So Jerry Lewis gave them one word answers.
Yes.
No.
It didn't.
So he did this interview with these fucking people.
And the guy starts weirding out.
We'll play a little bit over here.
It's on, what is it, Hollywood Reporter?
Is that who's doing it?
ron white
Is it going to come in through my headphones?
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll hear it through your headphones.
It's fucking hilarious, man.
Seven painfully awkward minutes with Jerry Lewis.
unidentified
People who are still working in their 90s.
Have you ever thought about retiring?
Why?
Was there never a moment that you thought it might be time to retire?
Why?
You come from a generation a little older, and I think of Bob Hope, George Byrne, Sinatra.
ron white
Oh, fuck you, they're dead people!
unidentified
He ain't dead, look!
Do you see similarities with them?
None.
None?
What do you think drives people like you and them to want to keep working?
Because we do it well.
And how about...
What's different about performing now for you than say 20 years ago?
How is it different for you?
It isn't.
Not at all?
Not at all.
joe rogan
I kind of see his point.
I see both of their points.
ron white
I see nobody's point but Jerry's point.
This guy's asking ridiculously stupid questions to one of the most famous comedians, certainly the best comedic actor, one of the best comedic actors that ever lived.
And he's asking him, why aren't you more like your dead friends?
Oh, well.
Because I'm not fucking dead!
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
I think.
joe rogan
I think with a guy like that, if you're going to have a conversation with him, it's going to have to be in a podcast form.
It's going to have to be with someone who really respects him.
Someone who's going to have a conversation at this point in his life, after all the movies and all the stuff that guy's done, he probably doesn't want to deal with any bullshit anymore.
It seems like, to him, it was like, this is stupid.
What the fuck am I doing?
Why am I doing this?
This feels uninspired.
ron white
You know what I did the other day?
This was the worst fucking decision I ever made.
Not the worst, but a really bad one.
My mom's in town, and we're staying at the Montage because the house got destroyed.
And I'm like, Mom, what do you want to do?
She goes, Well, I've never been to the La Brea Tar Pits.
And I'm like, well, that's kind of like a puddle of mud.
Well, I'd like to go on one of those tour buses.
And I'm like, alright.
Well, I'll take you on one of those tour buses.
I'll take you.
So, we go on the TMZ bus.
Because I saw the TMZ, the big double-decker things, but that's not their bus.
They advertise for TMZ on the side of those buses, but their buses are little buses.
And they have like big bunch of television screens and they just blast!
All this footage of the...
I mean, everywhere you go, what happened there, every time Paris Hilton was on their show, you're so...
Real fucking loud.
Really, really, really annoying.
And I was like, Mama.
I mean, because we thought we were going to be really passive, you know, like, and that's where Jerry Lewis lived for 45 years, and right there is where there's George Carlin, the house, you know.
But no, it was in your face, loud.
It was like you were...
Forced to watch an episode of TMZ. And somebody tied you to a fucking chair and wouldn't let you go.
And just turned it the fuck up.
That's how fucking annoying it was.
And just horrible, horrible, horrible.
And so at one point in the tour they said, we'll be passing the Montage Hotel.
And I'm like, let's get off, Mom.
Yeah, let's get out of here.
So we scooted off.
But it was nightmarish.
And I like those guys at TMZ, and they're friends of mine, but God, would you please fucking turn it down, my mother?
I brought my mother.
I brought my mom.
joe rogan
I feel bad for the guy that was asking the questions to Jerry Lewis, too.
Because he probably thought he was going to have a nice, friendly conversation with a legend, probably totally intimidated.
He's in Jerry Lewis' house, having a conversation with him, and it's going to that one-word answer place.
No.
Why?
When he starts doing that, it's like, you're in verbal combat.
ron white
But listen to what the questions were.
joe rogan
Terrible questions.
ron white
Terrible questions.
The guy's 90 years old.
He's talking about, why aren't you more like dead?
joe rogan
I agree.
ron white
I agree.
How do you answer that question?
joe rogan
It was a poorly designed conversation.
ron white
Horrible!
joe rogan
Horribly designed conversation.
And it was obviously, that's how Jerry Lewis felt, and you could tell the guy who was asking the question was kind of, you know, he was treading on water, trying to figure out how to get the fuck through this while he's talking to this living legend.
ron white
And he didn't figure it out.
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
ron white
He didn't figure it out.
No, he should have...
joe rogan
He probably meant well.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
He probably meant well and just ran into everything.
ron white
Yeah.
Unpreparedness.
joe rogan
Unpreparedness, yeah.
That's a weird gig, too.
The ability to ad-lib and ask questions to some living legend like Jerry Lewis and just not realize while you're doing it that your narrative that you set up in your head is probably disrespectful to him because you're comparing him to all these dead people and why he's still working.
You're essentially saying why he's still alive.
ron white
How do you not catch that?
unidentified
Yeah.
ron white
How do you not catch that?
joe rogan
It's gotta be fucking...
You know, you almost have to wonder why he decided to do it.
I guess it's just the Hollywood Reporter, right?
It's a big deal.
ron white
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, I don't know that maybe...
Does he still sell tickets?
I don't know that he works.
joe rogan
I think he does.
I think that's what the guy was talking about.
See if Jerry Lewis still has stand-up shows.
I think he had just got done.
ron white
Fuck, I'd pay.
joe rogan
I'd pay, too.
I'd go see that.
Fuck, yeah.
That's, you know, Bill Burr and I had talked about going to see Bill Cosby before the scandal broke.
Like, and we had talked about going, and either one of us flaked.
I don't remember what happened, but Bill wound up going when he was somewhere in California.
We were going to make a separate trip to Vegas just to see Bill Cosby.
And Burr said he was fucking amazing.
Said he was fucking amazing.
And then the scandal broke afterwards, and, like, the touring stopped, and, like, it just became a totally different thing.
ron white
We have that VIP company.
We do other people's VIP stuff besides mine.
We do other people's.
We had just signed Cosby and that stuff breaks.
He would have been the perfect client for it because he's looking for trim anyway after the show, so he's going to want to hang and sell it.
It would have been great.
It probably would have been our best client.
He still sold a lot of tickets after that.
joe rogan
Look at this.
An Evening with Jerry Lewis.
Saturday, November 12, 2016. So, real recent.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that was the last show I could find listed.
joe rogan
Wow, that's a really recent show.
ron white
Where was it?
joe rogan
Where was that?
ron white
St. Louis International Film Festival.
Wow.
So that was just probably him talking about...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ron white
Which still would be fascinating.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be fascinating.
But I'm pretty sure he does stand-up.
I'm pretty sure Jerry Lewis still does some sort of a stand-up show.
jamie vernon
I think he had a show that said, like, at the South Point in Vegas.
joe rogan
Yeah?
jamie vernon
But they didn't have any recent shows listed or anything.
joe rogan
Oh, when was, like, the last show?
jamie vernon
There was an article from September, so he might have had some shows at the end of the last year.
joe rogan
Pretty recent.
jamie vernon
But, yeah.
joe rogan
So within the last year, he's still working.
ron white
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy, yeah.
I mean, if you go back and watch like the Nutty Professor, like we were talking about how that influenced Dice, you know, if you go back and watch that and just realize there had been nothing before this, you know, like there was Charlie Chapman and there was a few movies.
ron white
Chaplin.
joe rogan
Chaplin.
Oh my God, I'm an idiot.
Don't listen to me, I'll stop now.
But Three Stooges, you know, there was some fucking great shit.
But, god damn, man.
Those guys were like real pioneers.
How many decades had movie comedy been around back when Jerry Lewis was doing those movies?
ron white
Well, you know, you can look at...
Here's the thing.
Some comics...
We build bridges and most comics walk across those bridges after they've already been built substantially and it's set in stone.
So Lewis, you know, certainly built a bridge that Jim Carrey walked across in ballerina shoes and he knows it.
Because that extraordinary comedic talent that comes out of those two people, you're so identifiable.
I think that Pat Paulson built a bridge that Stephen Wright walked across.
Now, that doesn't mean Stephen didn't do it better, but he didn't invent it.
joe rogan
But don't you think all of us are, in essence, in a way, some sort of a group thing?
Yeah.
ron white
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
Absolutely.
joe rogan
We're all kind of influenced by each other's standards.
And what you appreciate, like as a comic who's been doing it for as many years as you have, you know, I'm just two years after you.
It was, when did I start?
August 27th, 1988. So that's about two years after you.
ron white
Yeah.
Which means we basically started the same day.
Yeah, pretty much.
joe rogan
I started literally a week apart from Greg Fitzsimmons.
Do you know Greg?
unidentified
Yeah.
ron white
I don't know him well, but we work together somewhere and he's very funny.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
He's a smart dude.
ron white
I tell you what, I tell people all the time, man, if you like stand-up comedy, go to the comedy store and make a vacation around it and go sit in there because people are going to come in and that room rattles.
joe rogan
Rattles.
ron white
And you better be prepared to do something or you're not going to follow some of these guys.
It's really, really strong, and it's fun.
That's what makes it so much fucking fun.
joe rogan
It's a pirate ship filled with murderers.
ron white
Yeah.
It really is right now.
It's killing everybody.
joe rogan
Just slaughter fests.
You're going on after savages.
It's just like, oh, Jesus Christ.
But everybody's riding the wave of everybody else, and it's an unbelievably supportive place.
ron white
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
If you stop and think about how much camaraderie and friendship there is between the comedians, you would think if you get all these national comedians that tour all over the place, you put them together, oh, well, ego battles, it's going to be weird.
It's the total opposite.
That place is a love fest.
Everybody's hugging everybody and high-fiving and having drinks.
ron white
I go on, I do my time, but I try to hit them as hard as I can, right in the fucking mouth.
Because that's what I like to do, is hit them right in the fucking mouth.
And I guarantee you, somebody just got through hitting them in the mouth, so they're still wiping blood off their face when it's my turn to hit them in the mouth, but I'll hit them in the mouth anyway.
But the crowds that you get a hold of are so alive.
I mean, there's life.
It's like a swordfish on the end of a fucking line.
It just vibrates, you know?
joe rogan
Joey Diaz was slaughtering so hard the other night in the OR that I felt like I was having a religious experience.
I was in the back room of the OR, and Joey Diaz was slaughtering.
His face was beet red.
He was screaming out.
And I was running out of air.
I was laughing so hard.
And I remember thinking, like, this is a special time.
This is a special place.
This is a rare, rare little jewel in the universe of all the different performing arts at this one place that just sort of fucking cranked down the focus.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, the other night, Chappelle...
Would Chris Rock bring up Chappelle?
Or Chappelle brought up Chris Rock?
jamie vernon
Rock brought up Chappelle.
unidentified
How?
joe rogan
What?
Neither one of them were even on the schedule.
Chris Rock pops in and brings up Dave Chappelle.
ron white
That's why I tell people, come to the comedy store.
You don't know what you're going to see for your $15.
joe rogan
Crazy spot, dude.
ron white
But you're not going to see...
If you were going to pay those guys to put a show on for you that you just saw tonight, it's $17,000 a ticket.
Or whatever it is.
It's expensive.
joe rogan
It's also a really honestly critical place, too.
If your new stuff sucks, they'll let you know.
ron white
Oh, yeah.
I don't laugh at anything.
When I first started here, I really had a great little burst of material that I really like, and it's all the front end of my show now, and it's about 20 minutes long that I want from the front end of the show.
That's what I'm doing now on the front end of my live show.
And so it's...
But now, you know, it seems like I'm just playing around with the order of that stuff to see where it works the best and just how to just fucking really slap them in the face with it.
Because eventually, over time, your act will get into a place where it does drift into the spot it needs to be in.
But I don't have that kind of time, so I need to look at it.
And do it different ways and see where it needs to be to just slap the fuck out of them.
Which is my only goal is to slap the fuck out of them.
And when I can't do that anymore, I'll keep doing it for a couple more years.
joe rogan
You slap the fuck out of them.
I enjoy watching you slap the fuck out of them.
ron white
I enjoy watching you slap the fuck out of them.
I feel inspired.
You're going to just waltz on behind Rogan.
You know how big a fan I am of yours.
I know exactly who you are.
Not exactly who you are, not as much as I do now.
But I saw you do stand-up in Atlanta one time as a feature act a long time ago.
And you just really fucking tore this crowd up.
And I was like, ah, this guy's really good.
And so then, you know, I don't, unlike you, I don't hang out there and watch comics, you know, but sometimes you're right in front of me or right after me, and I just got, you know, just huge respect.
I mean, it's so much fun to watch.
You do physical things I couldn't even do, much less get the words out while you're doing them, you know.
But it's just great writing, and, you know, that's cool.
That's cool.
joe rogan
Well, thanks, man.
I feel the same way about you, and I would say that whether or not you just said something nice to me.
But, you know, I'm honored to be friends with you.
Like, no bullshit.
As a comic, to me, that's an honor, you know?
ron white
Well, since I'm now one of the godfathers...
joe rogan
You're the godfather.
If you wanted to run for president of the Comedy Store, you just got here and you'd win.
Son of a bitch.
Right?
I'd be disrespectful if I went up against you.
ron white
I'll be your vice president.
No, you'd win.
You'd win.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no.
You're the statesman.
You're the statesman.
Clearly the voice of reason.
ron white
Actually, whenever Jay McGraw first met you, he was asking me, he goes, do you know Joe Rogan?
I go, yeah.
He goes, what do you think about him?
I'm like, he's a great guy.
He's a great comedian.
That's what people don't know.
I mean, a lot of people don't know.
A lot of people do know, but a lot of people don't know that he's a great comedian.
Not a good comedian, a great comedian.
joe rogan
That's very nice.
I think people know enough.
They don't need to know anymore.
I'm a good...
ron white
No, you're a great comedian.
That's not what I meant.
joe rogan
I mean, I'm good with no one.
ron white
Okay, all right.
Well, I'm just saying.
That's fine.
But anyway, that's just what I told him.
I appreciate that.
And he said, but he doesn't talk much.
I'm like, huh.
It's like you guys were learning how to be boyfriends.
joe rogan
I don't make small talk, but I talk to people.
ron white
That's what I told him.
I said, you know what?
You're going to love this guy.
He's solid.
He's got a big heart.
He's what we're looking for for friends.
joe rogan
That's very nice.
This is a love fest.
This podcast is a big old love fest, Ron White.
ron white
Now Joe and I are Fucking FaceTiming Jay.
It's the gayest fucking three-way in the fucking world.
If we don't end up beating each other off before Christmas, I'll be shocked.
joe rogan
FaceTiming is another level of commitment other than texting with friends.
If you start FaceTiming friends, like, whoa.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
All right, buddy.
Who's got the body they need to bury?
You're setting me up.
ron white
I won't even do that with my wife because I don't want to prove where I'm at.
You know, I don't want to.
Oh, really?
To turn around and show me the interest.
joe rogan
Get an Android phone.
They can't communicate with each other.
That's the move.
Get yourself an Android phone and just start Skyping from the other side of the universe.
ron white
I don't do anything wrong.
joe rogan
I wonder if there's some sort of a setting that you can have on...
You know that they have those goggles?
Have you seen these goddamn things now?
ron white
I've never looked through them.
joe rogan
What are they called again, Jamie?
Snapchat goggles, right?
ron white
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
So these people have these goggles where they can stream video from their fucking eyeglasses.
Anywhere they want, wherever they are.
They can stream video from eyeglasses.
ron white
To pick up where?
joe rogan
I could show you.
I could show what I'm seeing.
I could look over and see Jamie.
ron white
Show it to me.
How do I see it, though?
Through my phone?
joe rogan
People could watch it online.
They could check it out online.
This is crazy.
We're experiencing some next-level technological innovation shit that's happening.
Some new, even more invasive...
Internet sort of thing.
This is the next level.
The next level is you can literally show the whole world what you see.
ron white
So is this...
I mean, because I do Periscope when I'm really drunk on the bus.
joe rogan
Essentially a lot like that, but you don't have to hold on to it.
It's on your glasses.
So it's similar, and there's a live streaming idea.
jamie vernon
There's like 30 second clips at a time, too.
joe rogan
That's all the shows?
ron white
Yeah, but I stay on...
You know, it's a blast.
We had this thing, because I got a friend that does my VIP stuff on the bus, and he was also at that first show that I did.
Wow.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
ron white
And so, his name's Dave, and when we're going down the road, we're like this.
We get just baked.
You know, after the show, we travel at night, and we'll do these broadcasts, and the Big Gay Dave and Ron show, which has no content or anything.
But you know what?
I don't know that it's growing that much, Periscope.
And it's the most amazing thing that you can do a live broadcast and you can pick it up in Cairo as easy as you can pick it up in Lubbock.
joe rogan
I think it's pretty popular.
Isn't it pretty popular?
Is it popular?
Periscope?
I know Scott Adams.
Scott Adams had a very popular Periscope.
jamie vernon
Twitter owns it.
They just made it.
It's built right in now to Twitter's app.
So if you hit Twitter and instead of putting up a message, there's a button that says live video and it's Periscope.
It will just open right up.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
jamie vernon
So they're trying to just figure out how to make it more available for people to be.
joe rogan
Whew!
And do they have a limitation on how long the clips are?
jamie vernon
I don't believe so in there.
You can go 12 over an hour.
ron white
Yeah, right.
You can do whatever you want.
unidentified
That is so crazy.
joe rogan
That kind of interactivity that has never existed before.
There's never existed anything.
Like, Scott Adams, like, he was doing coffee with Scott Adams, like, several times a week, right?
Wasn't he?
unidentified
Yeah.
ron white
I just made that up.
I have no idea how many times he did it.
I could tell.
joe rogan
I know he did a bunch of them.
ron white
Seven.
joe rogan
How many times did he do it?
I might have just made that up.
jamie vernon
Just the easy access to turning it on.
It's on now.
People know it's on now, where you are.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you just turn it on and they get a notification.
Ron White.
ron white
You're right.
They do that on Periscope.
joe rogan
You should have one on Periscope that says Ron White is drunk and he wants to talk.
ron white
I've got 25,000 followers on Periscope.
joe rogan
Damn.
ron white
I don't know if that's true or not.
I made that up.
joe rogan
You might get them after the end of this podcast.
We'll just tell you you have them, and everybody jump on.
Follow away.
ron white
We don't have a goodness signal, aren't we?
joe rogan
I was doing it for a while, but I got bored with the Periscope thing.
I'm like, Jesus Christ, am I exposed enough?
jamie vernon
Instagram Live just started up.
joe rogan
I know.
jamie vernon
They've been pushing that around.
joe rogan
I saw.
jamie vernon
That's a little limited to an hour, and those videos don't last after.
joe rogan
Oh, that's weird.
jamie vernon
They just disappear.
unidentified
Oh, that's weird.
joe rogan
That's too bad.
That's kind of too bad.
jamie vernon
In some cases.
joe rogan
But I would guess that the amount of fucking data that they would have to stockpile if everybody's shit saved.
Every fucking dummy out there saved the video of them flexing on the beach.
You know?
All the fucking stupid videos of some guy telling a shitty joke at a bar.
All those things just gigabyte after gigabyte after gigabyte stored on the Twitter server.
They'd be like, fuck you.
ron white
That's what happened to...
The TMZ bus ride.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the problem with the future is that everybody's gonna know everything everybody does all the time.
There's kind of not gonna be as much craziness going on in the next hundred years.
In the future, I think everybody's gonna know.
I think we're about 50 years away from us becoming some crazy hive mind.
That's what I think.
I'm stoned and drunk.
ron white
How long do you think I'm gonna live?
joe rogan
But I'm making some fucking points.
You can live.
You gotta just eat what I'm eating.
You gotta come to yoga class with me.
You gotta eat healthy.
ron white
You live out in the country.
joe rogan
I'll send somebody to you.
You're a wealthy man.
This is all we have to do.
unidentified
Hey, you know what?
ron white
I've been working with my yoga girl, and it's pretty basic stuff, but I'm working on it a couple days a week.
joe rogan
Basic stuff's all you need, man.
Basic stuff's all you need.
If you could work your way up to do a hot yoga class.
ron white
No, fuck.
You know, my wife took me to one of those.
It was the worst thing I've ever done in my life.
joe rogan
It's my favorite shit.
ron white
I walked out.
joe rogan
That's my suffer fest.
ron white
How often do you do it?
joe rogan
I'd never do it more than twice a week.
But I really should.
I'd practice some of it at home.
Like, I'd do some shit at home.
ron white
You have really hot room.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
When I do it at home, I'm just working on, like, basic exercises, stretching shit.
But never more, like, in class form than twice a week.
But when I have done it twice a week, I feel better than when I did it once a week.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I always do a little bit.
ron white
Margot's done it for 25 years, and Margot is strong.
I mean, she's strong.
She had handstands, but, you know, she's big-time upper body strong.
joe rogan
Do you think she could choke you?
Could she get your back?
ron white
If you look at her in the dark, kind of, from behind, if she's...
Flexing her muscles.
She looks kind of like Floyd Mayweather.
unidentified
Whoa.
ron white
I mean, just a...
joe rogan
That's not fun.
ron white
I'm kidding.
She's scary.
No, she doesn't look a thing like Floyd Mayweather.
But she's just ripped.
She got ripped back, and she's really, really, really strong.
But she's always done that, so I got to do something, man.
I can't be fucking going into my 70s without being fucking more fit.
joe rogan
We just got to get you on a nutrient-dense diet.
Drop a little body fat.
ron white
Yeah, what'd you bring to the fucking party?
A bottle of fucking whiskey.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
And a joint.
joe rogan
But I'm going to have that, too.
You know what I had for breakfast?
I had a kale shake with MCT oil and beets.
Raw Beats?
Then I went to yoga?
ron white
You know, we have that new This new juice presser thing at the house.
joe rogan
Oh, those are the shit.
ron white
Yeah, we just got hooked up with it.
joe rogan
Oh man, if you can just get used to drinking juice, just fresh squeezed vegetable juice, if you can just get used to doing that just a few times a day, it'll drastically improve your life.
There's so much nutrients and plants that we need and we fucking escape them for days.
We just eat mashed potatoes and meat and shit for days.
ron white
I don't have any energy for a workout.
You know, I just don't.
I get there.
I'm tired.
I don't want to go.
I dread it going in.
I dread it when I get there.
I dread putting on my shoes.
I do.
And I don't know why some people are as lazy as I am.
And I know that's what it is.
And I used to be a runner.
I used to run five miles a day.
I would run like crazy, and I hurt my knee really bad.
But I just don't like to go to the gym.
I hate it.
But...
I know I have to.
I know I have to because my friends are all dying and I'm going to be 70 in 10 years.
And so I've got to...
And I know yoga is the thing because this guy that...
This Dave, Big Gay Dave...
He's a golfer, a buddy of mine, but he's also a yoga for forever.
joe rogan
Well, bless you, Big Gay Dave.
Bless you.
ron white
Take him where he needs to go.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Yoga, the best thing about it, too, is it will get your heart rate up.
It will be very difficult, but it's going to straighten your body out.
It's going to stretch you out.
It's going to straighten you out.
It's going to calm you down.
You're not trying to be a power lifter.
You don't want to do anything ridiculous.
You don't want to do anything that hurt your back.
What you want to do is something that's going to make you feel better.
ron white
Well, that's, you know, I had this new trainer, and I told the guy, I said, listen, man, I'm a pussy.
joe rogan
Your phone's going off.
unidentified
Don't.
ron white
Oh, that's my wife.
You want to talk to me?
joe rogan
No, but play the music that rings when your phone...
Put it up there.
unidentified
Powerful Ron White.
ron white
Oh, let's go.
You know, he's a buddy of mine, Brian Johnson.
joe rogan
Really?
His hearing apparently is all fucked up from all his crazy concerts all those years.
ron white
Well, it's kind of an interesting thing because we're talking about the holiday evolution of anything.
But there was a guy in Australia who invented the in-ear monitors, which destroyed his hearing to begin with.
So he dedicated his life to finding a way to fix that.
And so he did.
But the problem is, and it does, I mean, if you watch tape of people putting these things on, people that are almost completely deaf, putting this system in their ears, every one of them starts crying.
unidentified
Wow.
ron white
Every one of them.
And so he had an open letter to Brian Johnson and said, Brian, I want to come to your house in Sarasota.
I want you to put these in your ears.
But the problem is, it's not portable.
It's portable in that it's this big.
joe rogan
You're making like a laptop size.
ron white
Yeah, it's thicker than that.
joe rogan
Like a large hoagie.
ron white
Yeah, right.
But the technology's there.
I mean, it's amazing.
And he hates hearing aids, and he's a curmudgeon.
He's the sweetest guy I know.
He's a wonderful, wonderful human being.
joe rogan
But you know what was cool about it, man?
When Axl Rose started...
I was like, should I accept this?
ron white
No.
joe rogan
Should you accept Axl Rose singing ACDC? No.
I accepted it 100%.
Because I thought, look, it might not be Brian Johnson, but it's still Axl fucking Rose.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
And it's kind of interesting.
Brian couldn't do it anymore.
Axl steps in.
I like it.
I like it.
I'm happy with that.
That's a freak show, but in an awesome way.
It's like, how often are you going to see this?
How often are you going to see Axl Rose singing as a lead singer for AC fucking DC? Like, wow.
ron white
Well, their ticket sales dropped by 70%.
unidentified
That's a bunch of pussies in America that don't respect Guns N' Roses!
ron white
Well, that's true.
They don't.
But the thing is, that's Brian Johnson's voice.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I agree.
ron white
Back in Black was the second biggest selling album of all time, behind Thriller, and 52 million copies.
That's Brian Johnson, not fucking Axl Rose.
I 100% agree.
Still a freak show vocalist.
And at some point, you know, his brother Malcolm...
Malcolm was the better guitar player anyway.
Better than Angus.
And Angus knew it.
Everybody fucking knew it.
joe rogan
Strong words.
ron white
Yeah, but he was the engine behind that really complicated...
It doesn't sound complicated.
Really fucking complicated rock and roll.
And that's why it was so engaging for the whole fucking planet.
But it was Brian Johnson's voice, not Bon Scott's.
You know, he was their lead singer for five years.
joe rogan
But Von Scott had some great fucking songs too, right?
ron white
He did.
He did.
joe rogan
Who were the big hits under Von Scott?
ron white
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
God damn it.
ron white
Because I've only heard Brian sing them.
But Back in Black, which was the second biggest selling album of all time, was all Brian Johnson.
joe rogan
Yeah, no doubt about it.
I'm not saying he wasn't fucking incredible.
ron white
And you know what?
And I'm wrong, as I usually am.
Because why not?
And Angus still loves to play it, and why not?
It got ugly a little bit.
Well, that's not my place to talk about that.
joe rogan
Oh, there was some political shit?
ron white
Well, whatever.
And I also heard some reviews that he did a really good job.
joe rogan
Who sings these, Jamie?
jamie vernon
These are Bon Scott songs.
joe rogan
Which ones?
Dirty Deeds?
jamie vernon
Highway to Hell.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
Highway to Hell?!
jamie vernon
Dirty Deeds.
joe rogan
Oh my God, the best ones.
ron white
Go back up to Dirty Ds.
That's Brian Johnson right there.
jamie vernon
Right.
joe rogan
It is.
ron white
If you want to hear somebody sing it.
joe rogan
Well, he was fucking amazing.
Look, they were both amazing.
I'm not, like, picking sides.
But what if Brian Johnson just came out to the shows?
I mean, he can't...
He can't do it anymore.
ron white
Why would you do that?
joe rogan
Just because it would be cool to see him there.
ron white
Oh, man.
I don't know.
joe rogan
He's not wheeling him out.
He just can't.
ron white
Could he not hear that sound anymore?
He still races cars.
I mean, he's got a fucking car team that he races these Lolas, these guys that were in Pan Am races.
These cars are running 200 miles an hour.
He races them now.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
ron white
And he travels the country.
He's got a new car show coming out that I'm going to be part of.
joe rogan
No shit.
ron white
He insisted on.
I mean, I think we're going to film my part in like a couple of days for the whole season.
joe rogan
But can they in any way restore his hearing to the point where he could start singing again?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And he would.
ron white
And he would.
joe rogan
Dude, I felt like, you know, when he stepped out, I was like, this is a weird moment in our love of these epic rock stars.
unidentified
Right.
ron white
Well, you know what?
The thing is, I went to see Chicago the other day with my son, and it was great.
It was fucking great.
There's three guys.
One of the singers, the one that wasn't as good, he was replaced by this Irish tenor that could just hit every single one of those notes, and it was great.
I was with my son.
We were partying.
So the only reason is it's kind of personal to me because he's a friend.
And so I know what he was going through that year, and also the death of his best friend, and then the loss of his hearing, and then the loss of his band.
And there were only a few dates left, but that's not the way he wanted to go out.
But he's Brian fucking Johnson.
He's the shit.
He's literally a treasure of a fucking guy.
joe rogan
He's right up there with Charlie Chapman.
ron white
Charlie Chapman, Brian Johnson.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it, man.
I mean, he's a fucking epic vocalist.
Epic, you know?
His fucking impact and his intensity got me through many a workout when I was a struggling adolescent.
ron white
It's still on my bum.
Fuck yeah, man.
joe rogan
I mean, that's one of the all-time hardest-hitting bands ever.
ron white
You could pull up footage, I guess you can, of Margot and Brian on stage in Jacksonville, Florida in a little club.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
ron white
Wow.
Put Brian Johnson and Margot Ray and see if that comes up.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
unidentified
Holy shit.
ron white
Oh, good lord.
It was Margot's show, and towards the end of it, Brian was there, and I was like, you know, her band always shook me all night long.
They've been working out all week.
Do you want to go sing it?
He goes, well, I don't know if I can sing.
I have a full run.
I haven't sung it in years.
I have a full run.
Oh, there it is, right there.
That's my wife, Marco.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
unidentified
This is so crazy.
joe rogan
When was this?
ron white
It's 2014. Three or four years.
Oh, it was it?
jamie vernon
Two or three years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
This is pretty cool.
ron white
She goes, okay, a friend of mine is going to come up and sing a song from ACDC, Brian Johnson.
joe rogan
And how many people are in this room?
ron white
175. That is insane!
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh my god, that must have been the most epic shit ever.
ron white
Yep.
unidentified
To be in that room.
joe rogan
Goddamn, man.
I saw Gary Clark Jr. in Honey Honey play in front of like 300 people.
Do you know Gary Clark Jr.?
ron white
He was in an episode of Roadies.
joe rogan
Goddamn, that dude's good.
ron white
I know, I know, he's sick.
joe rogan
Holy shit, him and Honey Honey, they played this midnight show in downtown L.A., You know what, that's the thing.
ron white
You've been waiting for your Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Where's that guy coming from?
That's who it is.
joe rogan
It's Gary Clark.
Dude, that guy's...
He's got something crazy going on.
The way he...
He's got such a specific guitar sound.
Like, he did this riff, and while he was doing this, they...
They did a cover of the Midnight Rider.
They decided on the spot.
So Suzanne from Honey Honey didn't even know the words to the song.
So she got on her phone and downloaded the words.
So she had the words on her phone.
She's reading it off the phone.
And people got mad because they're like, this bitch keeps checking her phone while she's taking notes.
She's literally, she joked around about it.
She doesn't know the words to the song.
Because although she's a fan, She hasn't sung in years.
She doesn't know it.
She's probably never sang it live.
So she, live, for the first time ever, improvising on the spot, sings her version, unprepared, of Midnight Rider, while Gary motherfucking Clark Jr. Plays all the Dickie Betts parts.
Look at this shit.
Listen to this.
I recorded this from the front row.
ron white
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Dude.
unidentified
I recommend getting out there and doing the Joe Rogan podcast.
ron white
Get fucked up and listen to some music.
joe rogan
This dude is an alien.
I feel real comfortable in saying that's the most intriguing guitarist since Hendrix.
I feel real comfortable saying that.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a bad motherfucker!
And to see that live in like a couple, maybe 300 people at the most in that place.
ron white
He sat down and played, you know, he came out whenever my character died.
He was one of the guys that came to the funeral and sang, and the character, I don't know, wrote, nobody watched it, so...
joe rogan
You were so psyched about that, man, before it came out.
ron white
I was.
I was, and it was, you know what, it was good.
It was really good.
I thought it was wonderful.
And it was, the problem was, it was, you know, a lot of people have a fucking heart on for Cameron Crowe for some reason.
unidentified
Really?
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't like him?
ron white
You know, they jumped on the show's back so hard, so fast.
joe rogan
You mean the critics did?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's a bad relationship with the critics, perhaps?
ron white
Yeah, the first word out of their mouths was just this fucking, it's the worst piece of shit.
I'm like, what?
The one, I love it.
I think it's, you know, Cameron always has a sweetness to his shows.
I mean, his movies always have a sweet edge to them.
You know, no matter what it is, whether it's, you know, Fast Times at Ridgemont High or, but the whole line of movies, Jerry Maguire, uh, uh, Almost Famous.
You know, they all had...
joe rogan
Those two, Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Almost Famous.
ron white
Right.
joe rogan
Those are epic movies, right?
ron white
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
And Jerry Maguire won best...
Somebody won something for something in Jerry Maguire.
Show me the money!
joe rogan
Cuba Goodies.
ron white
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so, anyway, the...
I forget what we're talking about.
joe rogan
Tom Cruise.
ron white
Tom Cruise.
No.
joe rogan
No?
ron white
No.
Oh, yeah, the movie.
They just jumped on it.
They just jumped on it.
They were shitty.
Of course.
Because they could, and they're cunts, and whoever that bitch is that reviews for Variety magazine, one day she's going to feel a turd in her throat.
joe rogan
Whose turd will it be?
ron white
It'll be my turd.
joe rogan
Oh, you're going to shit right in her mouth?
ron white
I'm going to shit in her mouth.
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
These are strong words.
ron white
Oh, they're horrible words.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
Okay, maybe I'll just flick some ink on her dress.
joe rogan
I think it's going to be way easier if you...
I think about the kind of grudges that someone can have with someone like him, like Cameron Crowe.
It's going to be way easier to avoid that stuff if you're being reviewed by everybody.
Instead of just being reviewed by a bunch of selected outlets like the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Hollywood Reporter, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Just the open-ended aspect of the internet is kind of changing that, don't you think?
ron white
I think so.
You know, I think so.
You know, they canceled it.
My character was going to die anyway.
So I was like...
But I still love the cast so much.
It was, you know, fucking Machine Gun Kelly who got a fucking huge hit on the radio or just did.
That kid's cool as fuck.
Machine Gun Kelly, do you know who it is?
joe rogan
I don't know that guy.
ron white
Oh, he's a...
joe rogan
I've heard that name.
He's a young...
Jamie just nodded at me like I'm an old man.
ron white
Yeah, he's a young, unbelievable rapper.
White guy out of Cleveland.
joe rogan
That's what the world needs.
More white rappers.
ron white
Fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Because of the age of Trump.
ron white
No, they don't need more.
But they need this one.
Because he's the real fucking deal.
I believe you.
And he's a...
He was great in the show.
Just great.
He really gave the honesty to the fucking show.
unidentified
Beautiful.
ron white
Because he is a big partying rock star.
joe rogan
I'm writing his name down.
I'm going to buy his shit right after I get out of here.
unidentified
MGK. Yeah, MGK. Nice.
joe rogan
Well, it's always cool to see and hear about new shit.
That's awesome.
I heard there's a documentary on Netflix called Rat.
I'm scared.
Have you seen it, Jamie?
jamie vernon
No, but I think I told you about it a while ago.
Rat?
joe rogan
Rat.
Is it about rats?
jamie vernon
Yeah, rats in New York.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, Morgan Spurlock.
Why are you trying to fucking freak me out again?
ron white
I saw it.
I saw it on there and I chose not to watch it.
joe rogan
He freaked me out about McDonald's.
Now he's freaking me out about rats.
That goddamn Morgan Spurlock!
Rats, apparently, in New York City, there's as many rats as there are human beings.
I made that up.
ron white
20 million.
Sounds good, though, right?
I was with you.
joe rogan
In the days before the internet, I could get away with that.
I think it's probably pretty close, though, honestly.
There might actually be more rats.
ron white
Sure.
Because look how much space they take up.
joe rogan
Whoa, look at this.
Morgan Spurlock flying over New York with a drone.
ron white
That's a big rat right there.
The space of a Jack Daniels whiskey bottle is about the size of a good...
Look at the floor on this thing.
joe rogan
Wonderful.
It's a beautiful bottle.
It'd be awesome for a bar fight.
Some shit broke out.
ron white
Are we out of ice?
Do you care how drunk I get?
No, not at all.
I'm going to have my car towed.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
How about your fucking car towed?
Don't worry about the ice.
unidentified
There's plenty of ice, Mr. White.
ron white
Where are you?
joe rogan
People are text messaging.
ron white
My wife is.
joe rogan
Tell them you're on YouTube.
Out in Al Gore's interwebs floating through space.
And look, it's young Jamie with the ice.
Bam.
Young Jamie.
Camera operator.
Ice gutter.
Bad motherfucker.
Ron White, what are you doing?
Text messaging?
ron white
No, I am.
My wife is trying to find me.
I told her this was going to be about an hour, so I told her.
joe rogan
You've got to get her a drone, bro.
Like a little one.
Just keep it right next to you.
ron white
Right.
Have it follow me around.
joe rogan
Also, it's like practice for your focus.
ron white
Bust my fucking balls.
joe rogan
Because if you have an artificial drone flying over your head like that, at least it gives you this mental discipline.
You have to ignore the drone.
Ignore the drone.
ron white
Ignore the drone.
Okay, I'm going to bring her on.
Don't do it!
joe rogan
Don't do it!
Ron White, this will be chaos!
We could wrap this up if you want.
ron white
No, no, I don't want to wrap it up, but...
joe rogan
Oh, she thought it was going to be an hour?
We've definitely done hour podcasts.
Only a couple.
Like, maybe three.
ron white
I don't care.
No, I'm having a blast.
I want to stay here and drink.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about, Ron White.
ron white
Until nobody cares anymore.
joe rogan
That's not going to happen.
That place isn't going to exist.
unidentified
Send Margo a text.
ron white
I'm still at work.
joe rogan
Ron White is at work, ladies and gentlemen.
ron white
These cameras aren't on, though, right?
joe rogan
Definitely not.
Why would that be?
ron white
Are they?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
ron white
Oh, good.
joe rogan
We're streaming.
We stream on YouTube.
ron white
Okay.
joe rogan
And record, and then it gets uploaded after the fact.
We put it on the iTunes.
ron white
So are we live to anybody right now?
joe rogan
Probably, like, let me guess.
10,000 people?
Oh, I guessed.
Really?
Wow, that's a fucking good guess.
Holy shit.
ron white
Jesus.
I wouldn't even have had a guess.
joe rogan
I've never asked before.
Like, only in the big ones, like when we do Fight Companions.
What's the most it's ever been, like 30 or something?
jamie vernon
33,000 or so.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
33,000.
The most I can get stirred up on Periscope is about 3,200 maybe.
joe rogan
I don't know what I've ever got.
I haven't used it in so long.
But it's one of those things where if someone found out, like, that's one of the things that happened with that...
The Scott Adams guy.
Because people found out.
They're like, well, this really intelligent guy is also a Trump supporter.
Is he a Trump supporter?
No, he's not a Trump supporter.
He's literally not even voting.
But he's breaking down why he thinks Trump's going to win, and people are freaking the fuck out.
Like, he literally is telling you, I'm not voting.
I'm not voting for anybody, because then I'll have some sort of a player in the game.
He is a weird guy, that Scott Adams, in a good way.
Like, he's sort of defying...
He defies a lot of your...
ron white
He's a Democrat.
joe rogan
He's sort of a Democrat.
ron white
Democrat-ish.
joe rogan
Well, he's very open-minded, I would say.
But he got unfairly labeled as being like this Trump supporter.
Whereas, I don't think he was a Trump...
He most certainly was not anti-Trump.
But what he was trying to say...
ron white
Trump's program for him to say Trump's gonna win for sure, and I'm the one that knows.
And he also has the background that says he's the one that knows.
So it wasn't, you know, it was one of the several blows that Hillary took, besides being a horrible candidate, that she took that knocked it out of her hands.
You know, these two people were running against the only people that they could possibly fucking beat.
You know, if she just wouldn't have said basket of deplorables.
When she said that, I was like, Jesus titty fucking Christ, really?
joe rogan
There was a bunch of them.
ron white
Give them a hammer.
Anyway.
joe rogan
Just, you know, when people, even people that wanted to look at it as an alternative vote, like as an alternative to the potential chaos that Trump could cause, You know, and some people looked at it that way, and some people, honestly, I think, I don't know what percentage I would guess it would be, but there's a bunch of pragmatists that got in there, and when it came time to vote, looked at that fucking ballot and said, you know what?
Let's just see what happens.
Let's just see what happens if we put this fucking crazy guy in here.
ron white
We were in England.
Why not?
At one of Margo's friends' house, and this guy who I really, really like, he goes, well...
The monkey in me would love to see Trump win.
unidentified
That's me!
ron white
Yeah, right.
The monkey in me.
The fucking monkey in me.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ron white
You know, what could he really do?
But, you know, I don't know.
joe rogan
He could definitely do something, but what would he do good?
ron white
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
What would a complete shakeup of the system look like?
I don't know.
You know, and I think that there's this weird defining of things right now where everyone has to absolutely say in one way or another, either support or deny that.
They either support him or don't support him.
It gets to me to be real cultish.
It gets to me to be real, like, fucking patriot pride.
You know, yo, I'm fucking, I'm for the Dolphins no matter what.
It gets real weird.
It gets real weird.
ron white
Hey, I had a guy who wouldn't take a picture of me at a meet and greet because I was, somebody just brought up the subject, and I don't fucking bring it up at my meet and greets or my show.
I used to do one bit about it that was barely Could be conceived as anti-Trump.
Because half my fucking fans, I'm not going to lose half my fucking fan base over a goddamn presidential election.
joe rogan
Are you kidding me?
ron white
I'm greedy.
I'm not a Dixie chick.
joe rogan
People will get mad at you about shit like this, too.
ron white
Literally, he had two girls with him, and they took pictures.
He goes, you're the turn to take a picture.
He goes, if he's not going to support Trump, I'm not going to take a picture with him.
unidentified
Ah!
ron white
And you know what I said?
Well, you know what?
There's a door right the fuck there.
And you can just walk the fuck out of it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He wants to drain the swamp.
That's all it is.
Hashtag drain the swamp.
ron white
Nobody's draining no swamp, though.
There ain't no swamp being drained down there.
joe rogan
Dick Cheney emerging as key Trump advisor.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Darth Vader has returned.
ron white
We're bringing Halliburton back into the son of a bitch.
joe rogan
He's been on ice, it turns out, for eight years.
The only Dick Cheney that we've ever seen in news reports has been this artificial Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney has cryogenically frozen himself for eight years to get through the Obama administration and then to pop back up in the Trump administration.
It's fully renewed and invigorated.
ron white
He couldn't go three months without having open-heart surgery back when he was...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, Ron White.
Jesus Christ.
There was a point in time where Dick Cheney literally did not have a pulse.
And I was like, Jesus Christ, isn't this in the fucking Bible?
I mean, really.
If you want to, you guys want to follow the Bible about the end of the world?
I don't know if it's in the Bible, but he had a machine inside his body that pumped his blood and it didn't make a pulse.
So he didn't have a fucking pulse for a long time while he's waiting for a heart transplant.
See, Cheney has heart, just fucking pop-ups!
Cheney has heart pump, but no pulse.
What?
That's gotta be a zombie.
Okay?
Are you excited or are you not?
I can't even tell.
I put my fucking fingers on your neck and I don't feel shit, you fucking vampire.
ron white
And you're still going.
joe rogan
You're still going?
ron white
You're still running Halliburton and you're the...
joe rogan
He's still in politics.
He's not fly-fishing.
ron white
You know what?
I haven't heard his name in years.
I'm like you.
I've heard his name in years.
joe rogan
He had a heart transplant.
I had a joke that I could never figure out how to get to work.
It was about how one Secret Service agent realized he wasn't really a Secret Service agent.
He just had the exact same blood type as Dick Cheney.
And they'd be like, how come I gotta eat tofu and you guys are eating burgers, man?
What the fuck?
And they just never told him.
How come I got to run every day and you guys don't have to fucking run?
Shut up, bitch.
Get running.
And they sit behind him in the car, pacing with him, smoking cigarettes.
And then one day, Dick Cheney has a fucking heart attack and they open that dude up like a fish and just scoop out his fucking fresh heart and do some roadside service.
I can never figure out how to get to work.
ron white
I think it's very funny, but I don't know how you're going to get it to work.
joe rogan
It's never going to work.
It was just terrible.
It was about heart attacks and dead people and it's not funny enough.
ron white
Yeah, I got baby duck pussy lip tacos to work.
That was a...
joe rogan
One thing I can comfort myself in is knowing that Dick Cheney did not get any advantage as far as waiting in line for a heart.
Guarantee you, it was 100% fair and across the board...
ron white
How do you know?
joe rogan
Without a doubt, Dick Cheney did not have any influence whatsoever in anyone moving him to the front of the line to get a young, fresh 20-year-old basketball player's heart.
There's definitely no, no, no, no chance about it.
ron white
No?
joe rogan
No, absolutely not.
That the motorcycle victim, 17-year-old super stud athlete, there's no way that heart is going into Dick Cheney's heart.
No.
It's not going to.
ron white
Did it?
joe rogan
I would guess so.
ron white
Yeah.
So how's he doing now?
I don't know.
unidentified
When did that happen?
ron white
Did he have a...
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
Does anybody know?
They didn't know whose heart it was?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
He had a transplant at age 71. Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
It's three years ago.
joe rogan
Hanging on, son.
He suffered five heart attacks, undergone open heart surgery, multiple catheterizations and angioplasties, had a defibrillator implanted and a pump attached directly to his heart.
All of that before his transplant at age 71. Or some young strongman winner.
ron white
Now he's a sprinter.
joe rogan
They got some fucking kid from Iceland that dropped one of those mallets on his head, and they just grabbed him and just threw him on ice, sent him over to Jack.
Just keep him alive.
Jack's gonna be your surgeon.
ron white
We're gonna bring this whole thing back around.
joe rogan
We're gonna be fine.
Yeah, and then that fucking super hearts and Dick Cheney.
All of a sudden you see him.
Posture looks better.
Face starts to suck in a little bit, loses the jowls.
ron white
Hair's growing back.
joe rogan
I just don't know why a guy like that would want to still be in the business.
Like, at this stage of the game, like, is it just...
He doesn't want to...
ron white
Just the bailout money from Halliburton was like $150 million.
And that was to become vice president.
Wow!
You know, I don't know.
I have no idea.
I have no idea what drives any of those idiots.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what you've got to worry.
joe rogan
What's the end game?
Where are you going when you're working that hard at 70?
What are you shooting for?
Are you trying to save the world?
Are you trying to tell people how it is?
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
I wonder, you know?
It can't totally be I want to keep making money, right?
Can it be?
Ego.
Maybe.
Maybe while you're alive, you're just alive.
Maybe all these ideas that we have about people getting older and wiser, maybe that's all just bullshit.
Maybe you just get older.
Like a lot of people don't.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They just get older.
So if they're fucking crazy when they're 30 and they want to take over the world, why do we automatically expect them to be on some path of self-regulation and improvement to the point where they become enlightened and they don't want to...
Take over the world anymore now that they're 70 and they've had 15 open-heart surgeries.
But no, it doesn't.
They're just people.
ron white
My goodness gracious, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Right?
ron white
Hey, you know what?
I think that this has been a lot of fun, and I love you to death.
joe rogan
I think it's been a lot of fun, and I love you to death as well.
ron white
And you know what?
I can't believe it took us this long to go do this thing.
I'm getting so fucked up that I can't respond anymore.
joe rogan
You're fine.
ron white
So it's always better if I just don't respond once I get this fucked up.
joe rogan
I completely understand your position.
But from a fan's perspective and a friend, you've been amazing and fine.
And you could skate right through this like a goddamn champion.
Like Tonya Harding before the incident.
ron white
Remember her?
unidentified
The little fat thighs.
That little freak could spin around and fly through the air.
ron white
She was amazing.
joe rogan
That's you right now.
That's you right now.
You're like every great comic.
You have a low self-opinion of yourself.
It takes a certain amount of ego to be great.
ron white
That was easy for you to say.
joe rogan
I'm telling you right now.
It takes a certain amount of ego to be great, and then a certain amount of ego to move past that, where you have to understand your ego.
And you're one of those understand your ego guys, and so you squash that motherfucker every time it gets.
So you're always looking for self-deprecating moments, even in front of people that love you.
ron white
Yeah, well, maybe I do.
Maybe I do.
joe rogan
But it's because you're a bad motherfucker.
There's no way you wouldn't be.
You wouldn't be as funny.
That's a whole part of the whole thing, man.
Getting to know you and be friends with you at the Comedy Store has been really fun, man.
I love your comedy.
I've always loved your comedy.
I love watching you work shit out.
I love hanging out with you.
It's just fun, man.
It's just fun.
And having you on here has been just nothing but a blast.
ron white
I knew it would be.
I knew it would be a hoot.
joe rogan
People right now are saying, no, don't stop!
ron white
No!
joe rogan
I still have to drive 45 minutes to get to New Hampshire!
ron white
They listen to this in New Hampshire?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
They listen to this shit in Dubai.
ron white
In Dubai?
God damn it, we could have gotten work there if you wouldn't have been dissing them.
joe rogan
No, just being honest with them.
They got to straighten their game up.
Can't arrest people from saying the wrong magic word.
ron white
They do.
joe rogan
I don't know if they do, but...
ron white
Yeah, I just really...
joe rogan
You gotta get the game up.
ron white
You know, at some point...
You know, I did that getting Doug with high or whatever.
joe rogan
Did you do that?
How was that?
ron white
I got so fucked up, I couldn't even think.
joe rogan
Doug wasn't there like a flight attendant trying to bring you back into the runway.
unidentified
Come on!
ron white
And I was there with Josh Blue, who smokes more weed than anybody.
joe rogan
Josh Blue, the comedian from Denver who won Last Comic Standing.
He has cerebral palsy, right?
ron white
Funny as fuck is what he is.
unidentified
Really funny.
joe rogan
Very funny.
ron white
Really fucking good.
joe rogan
He's one of the rare people that actually uses medical marijuana.
ron white
And you can watch it.
You can watch it relaxes that fucking tension in his fucking muscular dystrophy arm or whatever the fuck it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good to bring up.
Very important to bring up.
Because that's a clear beneficiary of actual medical marijuana, unlike you or me.
ron white
Oh, no, that's not true.
joe rogan
That guy's using it for medicine.
ron white
You know what?
I was taking Xanax...
To sleep?
No, to get up.
joe rogan
Just to get out of bed?
ron white
Yeah, for a while.
joe rogan
Ooh, that Xanax is a tricky one.
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
How long did you take it for?
ron white
26 years?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ron white
No, I'm kidding.
I'm not on Xanax.
joe rogan
I'm going to step in as a fake pharmacological expert.
ron white
No, I'm not on Xanax.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I smoke a lot of weed, and that's good, and I drink a lot of tequila, but I'd like to thank the Jack Daniels folks for sending this over, because this is fucking delicious.
joe rogan
That's a...
Wow.
Hmm.
Man, I think...
I think we're all real lucky right now.
I think it's just a perspective issue.
It's really a perspective issue of understanding what a strange time this is, you know, for all of us.
Well, everybody's freaking out about Trump, freaking out about the future, and what are they going to do with Russia?
The fuck's going to—you worry about Russia?
How often in Ron White's day does Ron White worry about fucking Russia?
ron white
Well, you know, we're already dead.
So, I mean, in my opinion, I don't worry about Russia.
I really don't even think about Russia.
But I also don't think about any of it.
I mean, not in details, I don't.
You know, I was a presidential candidate.
My paperwork was completely filled out.
I was a candidate for the president of the United States this year.
joe rogan
How dare you?
Who put you in?
ron white
I did.
joe rogan
You put yourself in?
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now, are you a part of the Bilderberg group, or are you a supporter of any sort of the Illuminati, anything that's going on that's ruling the world, Ron White?
ron white
No.
joe rogan
You were just going to run for president as a normal dude?
How come I didn't hear about this until right now?
ron white
I don't know.
Research?
joe rogan
How the fuck am I supposed to know you ran for president?
ron white
Well, look, pull up Ron White for president.
joe rogan
I would have had you in.
Who'd have tried to rig the election?
Are you willing to do it again in four years?
No.
ron white
You know what scared me was that I didn't realize anybody was taking this seriously.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Ron White for president.
Vote smart because you can't fix stupid.
ron white
So that's me at my house in the Beverly Hills side of the paperwork.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that is so hilarious.
ron white
I've actually never made that face before, so I don't know where they got that image, but it's certainly not me.
joe rogan
How weird, man.
And so, what happened?
People took it seriously?
Help support injured service members, war on the drugs that matter.
ron white
I had this war on meth thing that I felt like, because I have the same, I have a comics perspective of the American people.
Which means for the last 30 years of my life, I've done nothing but travel back and forth across this country, upside, downside, one left to right, right to left.
And I've made these people laugh.
I've drank with them in bars.
I've had dinner in their homes.
I've cried with them when their kids died.
And, you know, I know them.
Donald Trump doesn't know them.
Nobody else up there knows.
I know them.
You know them.
I know who they are.
I know exactly who they are, and I know what bothers them.
And one of the things that bothers them is the fucking meth is just killing everybody.
And nobody ever brought that up in this election, that meth.
The meth, even the meth made here, not even the meth from Mexico, the meth made here in America.
It kills more people than ISIS ever will in this country unless something fucking...
I mean, you know, this is going on right now.
100 people a day, dead, dead, dead.
joe rogan
100 people a day?
ron white
100 people a day, dead over either the byproducts of doing meth over a period of time.
100 people a day.
Easy.
joe rogan
How many people a day die from skateboarding?
Google that.
ron white
I'd say half a person a day.
joe rogan
You think?
ron white
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think is the most dangerous sport that people die from a day?
A hundred people a day die from meth?
ron white
If I'd have been elected president, here's my plan.
The most dangerous sport would have been run a meth lab.
That would have been the most dangerous fucking sport.
That would have been it.
Because I would put U.S. troops on the ground, and I would put a bounty of $20,000.
If you can show me an operating meth lab, we'll go in there, boots on the ground, we'll give you eight seconds to give up your meth babies, and then we're going to kill everybody in the fucking place.
And we're going to blow the place up.
joe rogan
You would kill the dude from Breaking Bad?
ron white
The teacher?
No, I don't think that's real.
joe rogan
But if it was real?
ron white
Yeah.
Fuck, yeah.
You know what?
Because he's killing people, and he knows he's doing it.
He knows he's doing it.
He's doing it just for profit.
He's a profiteer.
joe rogan
Could you just enjoy a little meth, like a wine tasting?
ron white
No.
joe rogan
Just a little?
Just a good discipline?
ron white
I could, but still.
joe rogan
I would like to see if Navy SEALs did meth.
If you could take guys with a tremendous amount of discipline.
If you got Tim Kennedy to do meth one time, I guarantee he's not going to become a meth junkie.
ron white
Or crack.
Crack cocaine is even more addictive.
unidentified
Is it?
ron white
But meth, you know, you watch the deterioration of somebody on meth over a 10-year period of time.
It could be a most beautiful woman in the world, all the way down to skank in 10 years, completely toothless.
It's horrible for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, we're going deep, deep down the world of neither one of us know what the fuck we're talking about.
ron white
No, no.
No, we're not.
Absolutely we're not.
I told you, man.
joe rogan
I feel like a Navy SEAL can smoke some meth.
ron white
I told you a while ago, I'm too fucked up to keep doing the show, and you're the one that kept going.
We're fine.
joe rogan
Everything's fine.
We're just in a civil debate about whether or not a Navy SEAL can smoke a little meth and just put it down and walk away.
Because he's not a bitch.
Okay?
No.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
It grabs your DNA, doesn't it?
ron white
I don't think so.
unidentified
Who knows?
ron white
I think a Navy SEAL... I don't think a Navy SEAL would do it in the first place.
That's the whole key.
joe rogan
But if they did, for like an Army investigation.
ron white
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
The Army had to find out.
Is it...
What is it?
Is it willpower?
Is it physical?
Like, what's the deal?
ron white
It'd be sucking a dick for a sandwich in the...
No, I'm not kidding.
joe rogan
They don't want sandwiches.
They want meth.
ron white
Yeah, you're right.
If they have meth, the sandwich has no importance.
joe rogan
It seems like for a lot of people that's the case.
But the question is, how even are we?
All of us.
Why do some people have cat allergies?
Why do some people have peanut allergies?
What the fuck's going on?
How many people that smoke meth just smoke it and they go, ugh?
How many people smoke meth and bing!
ron white
It's a high note, right?
Like we did with me and you.
joe rogan
I don't think we know, right?
ron white
Right.
Because some people smoke pot and they go, well, I'll never do that again.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
ron white
But I didn't say that.
You didn't say that.
joe rogan
No.
ron white
I don't like things that make me vibrate.
And I like to nap.
joe rogan
Responsible methamphetamine use and community.
ron white
I use meth on occasion.
I'm not one of those crazies.
Oh my god.
Says he takes a little puff before work.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
I don't know if this is real, but I mean, there are people apparently that agree with him and there's a whole community discussion about this.
unidentified
Of course they do.
joe rogan
Bunch of meth heads.
Meth heads are all getting together, chewing each other's fingers off, saying everything's fine.
ron white
And you know who's pitching in?
unidentified
The dentists.
ron white
The fucking dentists are fucking going, yeah, yeah, do a little meth.
Just do a little meth.
joe rogan
We're going to make you a metal teeth set.
Like that dude from the James Bond movie.
unidentified
Arr!
joe rogan
Jaws, remember that guy?
Metal teeth.
For a while, rappers were going with the metal teeth.
Jamie, has that let up?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
No.
Interesting.
jamie vernon
It's your grill.
joe rogan
Yeah, the grills are still in full force?
unidentified
Definitely, for sure.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Ron White, have you ever considered getting a grill, like maybe perhaps something with platinum and diamonds?
No.
Something?
No?
Nothing?
ron white
No.
joe rogan
Like Little Wayne-esque, perhaps?
ron white
That's when Cameron decided to make my character bald.
I don't know if you ever saw it or not, but it was pretty funny.
You'd laugh at it.
Did you see my character?
joe rogan
I didn't see that show once.
If I had known that in any way I could have helped and kept it on the air, I would have watched every episode.
How do they find out who's watching?
How do they find out?
I feel like a dick for not watching your show now.
I think I probably wanted to get around to it, but there's a lot of shit.
I haven't seen that...
unidentified
Who's the black superhero?
joe rogan
Luke Cage.
I want to see that show.
I keep hearing awesome things about it.
Now I'm in trouble, because I said the black superhero, even though he's exactly that.
What other ones?
Netflix has a couple.
They have Daredevil.
They have Luke Cage.
What else do they have?
jamie vernon
The Punisher, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, they have The Punisher.
That's right.
I'm hearing good things about that, too.
But more about Luke Cage than anything.
I heard a lot of people...
Somebody has a bit about Luke Cage.
Jerron Horton.
Jerron Horton has a really funny bit about Luke Cage.
Jerron Horton, who opened up for me in Denver at the Comedy Works.
ron white
Yeah?
Is he from Denver?
joe rogan
No, he's from here.
ron white
He's from LA. You brought an opener all the way from...
joe rogan
Funny, man.
I always bring openers.
You don't bring openers?
What are you doing?
Texting people?
Whoa, what's happening there?
ron white
That's my character.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
What did they do to you?
How rude.
ron white
I'm bald.
joe rogan
They made you look like shit.
I like the glasses, though.
And the t-shirt.
ron white
Well, those are the glasses that they didn't like at the fucking audition.
joe rogan
Those glasses are awesome.
Fuck them.
ron white
That's funny, man.
joe rogan
So you enjoyed doing that show, though?
ron white
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a blast.
The dialogue was a blast to do.
You'd like it.
Watch episode eight.
joe rogan
Is it available on Netflix or you gotta go to a Showtime app?
I know I have Showtime.
Do they do it on demand?
Is it on demand?
ron white
I don't know.
I saw it was on a...
I think it was a Delta flight.
joe rogan
I think right now those providers, all these different people, are trying to figure out how to get that straight so you can watch pretty much.
I mean, how many years, you think, if you're realistic, how many years are we away from everything that everyone makes being able to be watched online real close?
It's just got to be some universal currency thing, some universal one-click like Amazon, something along those lines where you can get things on the spot right after they come out.
Because, you know, that's going to massively increase how many people watch a show or any show.
Because some people just don't want to pay for that Showtime package.
Maybe they're broke.
Maybe they have one chance.
Like, what do you want?
Oh, let's get HBO. You know?
Or maybe they're really cheap and they're like, I'm going to go with Cinemax.
I'll get Cinemax only.
ron white
What does that cost?
joe rogan
50 bucks.
I don't know.
I don't know what it costs.
I have no idea.
Cinemax is awesome.
That's not my point.
My point is that if you have it online...
If it's easy to get to, you get this open river.
It's like the blockades you put up where it makes it hard for people to buy shit.
That's what fucks everything up.
Like, oh, you want me to sign up?
Oh, I don't want to sign up.
I got to put my email address?
Oh, here comes the spam.
If there was just some one easy way that you could put that fucking thing online, just one simple way where everybody could just give you, like, a buck or whatever it is for an episode.
Just real easy.
Let me watch the episode real quick.
You know?
It'd be goddamn everywhere.
ron white
It'd be everywhere.
joe rogan
Everywhere!
ron white
Everywhere.
joe rogan
It's just too, right now, it's too complicated.
Right now they're trying to figure out the various portals for people to be able to profit off these things.
How do we start this?
ron white
I can't wait.
joe rogan
I can't wait to figure it out.
ron white
Because I don't profit off of the internet at all.
joe rogan
At all?
You definitely do.
Because people on the internet love you, so they come to see you.
ron white
Well, yeah, in that way they do.
You know, I do that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a big part of it, right?
Gotta get the Ron White show started.
Jamie, this is important.
Needs to be done, right?
ron white
No.
unidentified
No?
ron white
What do you mean, a podcast?
joe rogan
You should do something like once a month.
ron white
No.
joe rogan
Where you commit to once a month.
Just once a month, it's not that much time for an hour.
Ron White answers questions.
ron white
Alright, I'll do that.
joe rogan
Look what we did.
unidentified
Look what we did.
ron white
Boom.
joe rogan
Look what we've created here.
ron white
Alright.
joe rogan
You don't have to.
Did I put you on the spot?
ron white
No.
joe rogan
I feel bad now.
ron white
No, you know, everybody's been honored to do it.
But once a month, nobody said that.
joe rogan
Once a month's the way to do it.
ron white
Nobody said that.
Everybody else is like, 17 days a week.
I'm like, I don't have 17 days a week to fucking do this shit.
joe rogan
That's what I was going to tell you earlier.
I would never encourage any changing of any of what you do.
Because then you wouldn't be Ron White.
But if Ron White decides at one point in time that he wants to change whatever behavior, if Ron White decides that he wants to start drinking carrot and ginger and garlic juice every morning and going to the fucking CrossFit gym...
ron white
I'm drinking Jack Daniels with you.
You're Mr. Mixed Message.
joe rogan
I am definitely a mixed message.
ron white
You are.
joe rogan
I am 100%.
And I'm guilty as charged.
Just trying to squeeze as much life out of this thing as we can, Ron White.
ron white
I know.
unidentified
Squeeze.
ron white
I know, but I'm not sure that helps.
joe rogan
I don't think so either.
ron white
The expression is little old man.
Not big old man.
It's little old man.
You never hear anybody say big old man.
joe rogan
It's poor little old man.
ron white
Tiny, little, tiny, little old, tiny man.
unidentified
Look, he's got the cane.
ron white
What?
joe rogan
He's 104. That is the great grave pulling him towards it.
How fucked up is that?
That it's ultimately what is actually happening to your body as you get older.
You have a stick to fight off the slow pull of gravity.
ron white
That's tenacious.
joe rogan
That's just sucking you into its grave.
ron white
The undeniable constant pull that you could...
It used to kick your ass when you were a baby.
And you'd just fall over and kick your ass all the time, and then you got a little stronger, and then it got to where you could fucking run, and then it got to where you could jump, and you were like kicking gravity's ass for a few years.
But gravity never stopped.
Gravity never fucking stopped.
Gravity kept on fucking tugging on your goddamn ass.
joe rogan
Gravity's like Nick Diaz in his prime.
ron white
Sucking you down to the fucking earth.
joe rogan
Nick Diaz in his prime would land a lot of like 50% punches.
He would just kind of like punch at your face until you got hurt.
And then he would start digging hard.
Boom, boom, boom.
That's kind of like gravity.
Gravity is just slowly chipping away at your meniscus and your discs.
ron white
Right, they have no idea.
You have no idea.
joe rogan
Your posture, your hips.
Oh, why do your feet hurt?
Gravity, bitch.
ron white
Right, ankles sucking into your fucking metatarsals.
unidentified
Into the lava from which you came, Ron White!
Motherfucker!
Thunder! Thunder! Thunder!
joe rogan
And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of this podcast.
Ron White is available for children's parties.
He plays clubs and colleges all across the country.
You can catch him!
All throughout the land!
Ron underscore White on Twitter.
Ron White official on Instagram.
Is that correct, sir?
ron white
That is, uh...
Yeah.
I don't even know about the Instagram stuff.
joe rogan
You're one of the baddest motherfuckers alive, Ron White.
I hope you appreciate that.
ron white
J. Joe Rogan, you are one of the greatest motherfuckers alive.
Thanks for having me on the show.
joe rogan
Please, my honor.
ron white
I know it'd be a blast.
It's fun that we hang out together so much.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
ron white
And we just really talked about this last week.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ron white
And, uh...
But it was a lot of fun.
joe rogan
This was a good time, man.
Thank you so much.
Alright, we'll be back tomorrow with Brian Redband.
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