Dec. 4, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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And we're live. | |
| Eddie Bravo, Brian Callen, Brendan Schaub, Eddie Bravo, the man who introduced me to marijuana. | ||
| For him I will forever be grateful. | ||
| For medical reasons. | ||
| Medical reasons. | ||
| It's totally legal now. | ||
| We don't even have... | ||
| His intensity was... | ||
| When is that going to... | ||
| When is that going to effect? | ||
| It's now. | ||
| It was midnight that night. | ||
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What? | |
| It's legal. | ||
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It changes that fast? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Recreationally legal. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Damn. | ||
| You have to be 18 or 21. I think you have to be 21. But now with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, if he gets confirmed, can he override the federal power? | ||
| I do not think that he would go against the will of Trump. | ||
| And I think that Trump, for all of his faults that you might find in him, he's a populist. | ||
| And I think the best argument is that a guy like him... | ||
| You can sort of influence him with the opinion of the country, you know? | ||
| And so it's kind of an interesting thing because it might be one of the first times ever, like, the opinion of the country might significantly influence some guy who's just completely foreign to the idea of politics. | ||
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It's kind of a good thing, yeah? | |
| He says a lot of great shit, man. | ||
| He's practical. | ||
| He's very practical. | ||
| This is not perfect. | ||
| Nothing's perfect. | ||
| Like many things in life. | ||
| But it might ultimately be a good thing to completely shake up the system. | ||
| The thing that troubles people that oppose that idea is all the Wall Street guys he's bringing in. | ||
| Like, right away. | ||
| He's bringing in all these billionaires and Goldman Sachs. | ||
| He's bringing in a lot of business people, too, who are practical as well, who understand the economy. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Listen, it might be good. | ||
| That might be a good thing. | ||
| That might be what they need to honestly figure out the economy. | ||
| I'm not saying it's impossible. | ||
| I'm not saying it's definite. | ||
| But isn't it possible that you could be a billionaire and still want to fix the fucked up economy? | ||
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Of course. | |
| Especially if you have everything you've ever wanted. | ||
| A lot of these guys, they do operate on that infinite growth idea. | ||
| They constantly want to get bigger yachts, bigger mansions, bigger houses. | ||
| But it's also possible that a guy could be just an intelligent guy that did really well in business. | ||
| Even some of the things Trump said himself. | ||
| He said, yeah, I took advantage of these loopholes. | ||
| But let's Let's get rid of them. | ||
| Think about what he did for a long time, which was he owned hotels, buildings, and wanted to give you the best experience possible. | ||
| A guy like that, who has a massive ego, of course, he wants a legacy he can point to. | ||
| He wants to go down as the greatest president. | ||
| He wants to fix Hopefully. | ||
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That's where his ego is good. | |
| My worry is that a guy like that is used to getting his way all the time. | ||
| The nature of the presidency is one in which you don't get your way, where you have to compromise. | ||
| A lot of times you get very frustrated with the power you don't have. | ||
| That's when I want to see how he reacts. | ||
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He's failed a lot though in business. | |
| Like, he's filed for Chapter 11 multiple times. | ||
| He's had a lot of failures. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| As all businessmen do. | ||
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Most successful people have. | |
| I'm just saying, I wonder what's going to happen when he can't convince companies to do his bidding, when a lot of his policies maybe don't give his voter base the jobs they wanted. | ||
| Because he can't implement the policies he wants, that's when it's going to be interesting. | ||
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Do you think we'll see an assassination attempt? | |
| Jesus Christ, Brendan Schaub. | ||
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What, man? | |
| Trying to mix it up? | ||
| You don't think it's going to happen? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
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You guys are crazy. | |
| I hope not. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
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How many people are upset? | |
| It's possible. | ||
| It's always possible. | ||
| What kind of people? | ||
| People have tried to kill the president many times. | ||
| Most of America because Hillary won the popular vote. | ||
| Actually, she only won it by, what, 50, 500,000? | ||
| The crazy thing about... | ||
| The debate between Hillary and Trump, yeah, Trump's done some D-bag things or whatever, but when... | ||
| You guys know what Pizzagate is about? | ||
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Oh, I'd love to hear it, Eddie. | |
| Are you familiar with it? | ||
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Pizzagate? | |
| Yes. | ||
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No, it sounds dope. | |
| Yes, I do. | ||
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I've never heard of it. | |
| Please explain to me. | ||
| I'm not going to explain it. | ||
| I'm not even going to get to it, but all I'm going to say... | ||
| It's such bullshit, Eddie. | ||
| Eddie, before you go into it, it's been debunked. | ||
| It's the biggest bunch of bullshit. | ||
| - Justin Devon! - Oh hell no! - Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, it's the biggest, it's fake news, they proved it's fake news. | ||
| You're so on that side. | ||
| And if you believe that, it's ridiculous. | ||
| You're so on that side. | ||
| So the power structure in the Democratic Party are pedophiles, and they all communicate with each other with those secret paddles? | ||
| Is this what we're going to go into? | ||
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Are we going to pop off like this? | |
| Are we going to kick the community off like this? | ||
| It was proven to be a horseshit story. | ||
| If you buy into it, the joke is on you. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| That's very unbelievable. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| So are you saying what? | ||
| Are you saying that the power structure are pedophiles? | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| It's so fucking dark. | ||
| All the shit Alex Jones has been saying. | ||
| He's been saying all that Pizzagate shit for 20 years. | ||
| He's been saying everyone thought he was... | ||
| You couldn't believe anything he said because of the things he's saying. | ||
| Now, when you look at Pizzagate, all that shit he was saying that everyone thought he was crazy for, that shit's real now. | ||
| It's a fake news story, Eddie. | ||
| It's a fake news story. | ||
| Every credible news organization's editorial board, it's all bullshit. | ||
| CNN? Take both sides. | ||
| Take the right and the left. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| It was a joke. | ||
| So Eddie, the power structure are all pedophiles? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Man love? | ||
| So the power structure are... | ||
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Listen, listen, listen. | |
| Brian's coming up. | ||
| It's a Joe. | ||
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It's a Joe. | |
| Have you seen the documentary Conspiracy of Silence? | ||
| Have you seen that? | ||
| Sure haven't, buddy. | ||
| Of course you haven't. | ||
| Sure haven't. | ||
| I don't get my news from YouTube. | ||
| I don't get my news from YouTube. | ||
| I get my news from... | ||
| From CNN? Washington Post? | ||
| Incredible news organization from independent lines of inquiry. | ||
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Joe, can you do me a favor? | |
| What is Pizzagate? | ||
| There's a guy who worked for Hillary Clinton's campaign. | ||
| His name is Podesta, right? | ||
| John Podesta, that's his name. | ||
| There's some pizza restaurant in... | ||
| Is it in D.C.? There's two of them. | ||
| Comet Ping Pong and Besta Pizza. | ||
| And apparently they have art that's like this kind of famous pedophile-like bizarre art. | ||
| Well, it's two ping pong paddles, which is close to the Man Love organizations. | ||
| Is that all it is? | ||
| What about those paintings? | ||
| Man Love's okay? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's not saying. | ||
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He's just saying it's just also happened to be two ping pong paddles. | |
| Paintings on the wall. | ||
| But Brian, what are the paintings that they're being accused of having? | ||
| So the man love has... | ||
| No, but not the symbol. | ||
| There's some paintings that we're connected to. | ||
| Do you know what I'm talking about? | ||
| There was some very bizarre... | ||
| It disturbed the shit out of me so much, I said, I don't want to spend any time looking at this. | ||
| You know what I know for sure, though? | ||
| For sure, 100%. | ||
| That Speaker of the House guy, Dennis Hassert, that got put away for like 15 months for being an admitted child molester. | ||
| The idea that this guy was the Speaker of the House. | ||
| He was the Speaker of the House, and he was fucking kids when he was a wrestling coach. | ||
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And eating pizza? | |
| No, this is a different guy. | ||
| I'm just trying to tie everything around. | ||
| Dude, I don't know what it was. | ||
| I don't know if it was because he's old and he's very sick and ill, but it means nothing to me. | ||
| The idea that you could get an admitted kid fucker and you only give him 15 months. | ||
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That's shady. | |
| There's more to the story. | ||
| I'm sure there is. | ||
| I'm sure there is more to the story, but the facts remain that that guy got a very short sentence and was the Speaker of the House and was a child molester. | ||
| I don't want to. | ||
| I mean, he really 100% was a child molester. | ||
| There are always going to be pedophiles in that group. | ||
| Right, but instead of having this gigantic blanket attitude that what he's saying is ridiculous and then getting super emotional about it, let's just look at the actual fact that a guy who was a pedophile was the Speaker of the House. | ||
| Has nothing to do with this story. | ||
| You're right, it doesn't. | ||
| But to mock the idea that people who are pedophiles can't get to high positions of power was exactly what you were doing. | ||
| It's not at all what I was doing. | ||
| Were you getting real emotional about it? | ||
| I was getting emotional because this story was proven through many independent lines of inquiry to be literally a hoax. | ||
| And when you give it a voice, when it's a hoax, and these people look at it way closer than anybody at this table. | ||
| It's not about conspiracy theory here. | ||
| What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to say, guys, guys, hold on. | ||
| This was kind of a big hoax, and so many different people who looked at it, they don't have an agenda. | ||
| They looked into it, and they went, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on? | ||
| So it's a fake story by one of those fake news sites. | ||
| It's a fake story, man, yeah. | ||
| So we have to be very careful. | ||
| Do we really want to spend time on fake stories? | ||
| Let's talk about fake stories. | ||
| Let me establish where I am. | ||
| I know the very brief outline of what it's all about. | ||
| I know that a lot of people think they're pedophiles and crazy and Satan worshippers, and there was that some spirit cooking thing, some bizarre thing that was released in an email about something that Podesta was going to get into. | ||
| And that's true, right? | ||
| Yeah, apparently that's true, but it's like some bizarre... | ||
| I don't know what the fuck it is. | ||
| It's dark shit. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
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The guy who knows all of it won't speak up over here. | |
| You know what, I've looked into it deeply, and all conspiracy theories make sense to me now. | ||
| I get it. | ||
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Every single one? | |
| I get it. | ||
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Every single one, sir? | |
| Not every single one. | ||
| Can a guy speak in general terms without being checked every goddamn time? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Of course it's general. | ||
| When a guy says, oh, he beat him every goddamn time. | ||
| Not every goddamn time, but 90% of the time. | ||
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Do you know who you're around? | |
| Do you have to explain this shit every time? | ||
| Eddie, would you admit- In speaking in general terms, do I have to give you actual numbers? | ||
| Hey, would you admit that human beings, you and me, all of us, tend to get a feeling, and then we have what's called confirmation bias, which is we'll find, we'll find, we all do it. | ||
| We all do it, dude. | ||
| I do it, we all do it. | ||
| We'll find facts to support our feeling. | ||
| That's so human. | ||
| Listen, all you have to do is hear an argument between me and my wife, and I'll fucking justify it any way I can, because I find facts to get to pile on my side. | ||
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There you go. | |
| So let's all be careful about confirmation bias. | ||
| All I'm saying is to get super emotional and say it's impossible. | ||
| Like, I don't necessarily think it is impossible if that Speaker of the House guy was in place. | ||
| This story, in particular, Pizzagate? | ||
| You just gotta look into it. | ||
| I know zero about it. | ||
| But let me, from where I am, I looked into it very little. | ||
| I'm like, I'm gonna just let this scuffle go on and then look into it when the dust settles in a couple weeks. | ||
| Figure out exactly what it is, whether it's bullshit or real. | ||
| It made me, me looking into it, made me want to shut the fuck up about conspiracy theories. | ||
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Because people get killed with this shit. | |
| When you actually look into it, and I'm like Brian Cowan, when you actually look into it, with an open fucking mind, you should trust the government on everything. | ||
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God damn it, Brian. | |
| I trust the government. | ||
| Dude, you need to be a politician, bro. | ||
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Eddie, you have me at Pizzagate. | |
| You would love that shit. | ||
| I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. | ||
| You know, I think everybody picks a position, and I bet it's probably not nearly as fucked up as everybody's making it out to be. | ||
| But there's some weird... | ||
| First of all, that Podesta guy's, like, really into UFOs, too. | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's smoke, there's fire. | ||
| Guys, guys, guys. | ||
| No, I'm sorry. | ||
| I have to stop. | ||
| Isn't Podesta related to UFOs? | ||
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Hold on. | |
| I don't believe so. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I don't care about that. | ||
| You might be into UFOs and you just stormtrooped over that. | ||
| You're telling me the truth to something in the middle. | ||
| What I'm saying is I'm reacting to what I had read from credible sources as being a fake. | ||
| I wish you could cite what it said and what the issue was. | ||
| I actually have the article on my phone. | ||
| Pull it up. | ||
| Just give it to Jamie. | ||
| We'll throw it up on one of the big screens. | ||
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And then we'll knock this out. | |
| Yeah, all I gotta say is, I don't even want to get into it, but all you need to do is go to YouTube and watch the Conspiracy of Silence. | ||
| It's a documentary. | ||
| How long is it? | ||
| It was supposed to be on the BBC, but they never aired it. | ||
| Who made it? | ||
| Your mother, Kellen. | ||
| No, who made it? | ||
| It's important, right? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| It's not? | ||
| No, Disney made it. | ||
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How about that? | |
| Would you believe it if Disney made it? | ||
| What the hell is Pizza Gate? | ||
| Here it is, Jamie. | ||
| I'm going to give this to you. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Just tell him what it is and he'll get it online. | ||
| He has a computer as well. | ||
| It's interesting because the two of you guys are so on the opposite end of the whole conspiracy thing. | ||
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Complete opposites. | |
| You tend to immediately go towards conspiracies. | ||
| He tends to immediately go towards the mainstream. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I'm in the middle. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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I'm in the middle. | |
| Guys, guys, guys. | ||
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I want someone to convince me. | |
| It's not that. | ||
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It's not that. | |
| What it is is I tend to not trust shit they say. | ||
| He tends to trust everything they say. | ||
| That's what it really is. | ||
| That's not a fair characterization. | ||
| Dude, you're always on the official story side, dude. | ||
| You're one of those guys. | ||
| You're one of those guys. | ||
| You're always. | ||
| I read credit. | ||
| These two came in. | ||
| Washington Post. | ||
| Not just Washington Post. | ||
| I mean, not just New York Times. | ||
| New York Times. | ||
| No, I read The Economist, which is the second oldest magazine in the world. | ||
| You read all the propaganda. | ||
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You read all the bullshit. | |
| Do you know how those editorial boards work? | ||
| You study the bullshit. | ||
| Eddie, do you know how those editorial boards work? | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| Do you really think that the entire editorial board of the New York Times or the Economist or the Wall Street Journal, where people who run the country and the world get their information, do you think all those people are lying, getting together, and being conspiratorial to give us fake news? | ||
| And for what? | ||
| Is that really what you believe? | ||
| That's exactly it. | ||
| It's been proven. | ||
| They spent $500 million. | ||
| Eddie, answer my questions. | ||
| Do you believe that? | ||
| Do you believe it? | ||
| I do believe it. | ||
| So everything that the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Economist reports, is a lie? | ||
| Not everything. | ||
| Then what, though? | ||
| Just the agenda. | ||
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Why? | |
| Just getting the agenda. | ||
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Why? | |
| Do you know what Agenda 21 is? | ||
| I don't, Eddie, but I want you to tell me why. | ||
| Do you know what the New World Order is? | ||
| I don't, buddy. | ||
| Of course you don't. | ||
| Because you think a small group of people are controlling everything? | ||
| Like the world economy or the oil markets? | ||
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How? | |
| Do you know how oil is priced? | ||
| Do you know how oil is priced? | ||
| How? | ||
| Okay, it's an open market commodity. | ||
| It's a world commodity, right? | ||
| So it really depends on how much is available in that given day. | ||
| So for an example, you may have an oil tanker that's on its way to a country, and then somebody in the marketplace bids on that oil and wants that oil. | ||
| And that ship will turn back around and go to that market. | ||
| It all depends on what the marketplace and what all the different players who need oil and the amount of oil that's available, whether it's crude or raw, whatever it might be. | ||
| There's so many different factors that go into pricing oil. | ||
| Look at what happened when we came up with ways to get the oil out of the shale sands, right? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| The price of oil went down because the United States became an exporter of oil. | ||
| There was an oil glut. | ||
| And that's why Russia is having a major problem because their oil used to be $100 a barrel. | ||
| What is it, $47 a barrel or something? | ||
| So what I'm saying is that that's how oil is priced. | ||
| You're talking about a massive organism called the world economy, called the U.S. economy, where there are so many different moving parts and so many different competing interests. | ||
| So to say that one group of seven men or whoever they might be or 21 men controls things, is holding the strings, is Hollywood movie stuff. | ||
| It would be impossible. | ||
| It's hard to control anything. | ||
| Even in Washington, it's such a chaos fuckjob. | ||
| You are so far on the other goddamn side. | ||
| Isn't it possible that the truth's in the middle there somewhere? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| No, but I mean, people of influence, people like the people that run the World Bank, people that have massive influence over just enormous sums of money. | ||
| Don't you think it's possible they can have some influence due to the relationships that they have with people? | ||
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They all try. | |
| They all try and they do. | ||
| They all try and they do. | ||
| He knows what's going on at the top. | ||
| He knows what's going on. | ||
| Again, they're competing with each other. | ||
| There's so many different competing. | ||
| I totally understand. | ||
| I mean, that's the issue. | ||
| The World Bank is a massive bureaucracy. | ||
| The IMF is a massive bureaucracy. | ||
| No, I completely understand. | ||
| I think there has to be some sort of control and manipulation involved. | ||
| Well, let me give you an example. | ||
| So let's take the division, let's take the Latin American Bank, which is, I think it's a subsidiary of the World Bank, I believe. | ||
| And I sat next to this guy on the plane and talked to him. | ||
| And he said that so much of the sort of projects and the money, what they were there for was to essentially give money to investments in the Latin American economy, to build up the Latin American economy in one way or another. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And I'm generalizing. | ||
| What happens sometimes is that that bank no longer becomes necessary because the economy of Latin America, whatever that country is, is running on its own. | ||
| So now, here's a conspiracy for you, which makes sense. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| But now they go, well, we've got 3,500 people who are working at the Latin American bank. | ||
| If there's nothing left for them to do, we've got to come up with something for them to do. | ||
| And now they have a vested interest in staying in business because you've got 3,500 people whose jobs are at stake. | ||
| Now you can come up with projects that are fake or you'll be like, you guys still need us, you know, because we should do this and that. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That would be, if you want to call that conspiracy theory, I would call that people who just want to hold onto their jobs and come up with reasons to exist. | ||
| Do you know what Operation Mockingbird is? | ||
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Of course he doesn't. | |
| Of course you don't. | ||
| I don't, buddy. | ||
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Because if you did, you wouldn't be saying all that shit. | |
| Did you hear what I said? | ||
| Did I say anything that was that radical? | ||
| I have no idea what the fuck you said. | ||
| I wasn't listening to shit. | ||
| Moreno's got a good top game here, son. | ||
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It's been a good fight, too. | |
| Moreno's got a good top game. | ||
| Look into Operation Mockingbird. | ||
| Strong. | ||
| Where can I look that up? | ||
| Anywhere. | ||
| At the library. | ||
| At the library. | ||
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The library won't have it. | |
| Operation Mockingbird. | ||
| Show it up, Jamie. | ||
| Why do you believe... | ||
| Do you know what Operation Mockingbird is? | ||
| Why do you believe in all these conspiracy theories that got... | ||
| Operation Mockingbird is not a conspiracy theory? | ||
| That's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| But why do you believe a documentary on YouTube over... | ||
| The Economist. | ||
| Why would you believe, and you don't even know who made it, but you believe in a documentary versus... | ||
| You're talking about some shit you've never seen. | ||
| Just because it's on YouTube, it's like, it's not real, it's on YouTube. | ||
| You don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about. | ||
| You're talking about some documentary. | ||
| You believe that documentary. | ||
| You don't even know what it is. | ||
| You've never even seen it. | ||
| Why do you believe it? | ||
| Because I've seen it. | ||
| And I've seen people talk. | ||
| And there's evidence. | ||
| I see the evidence. | ||
| I don't read about it. | ||
| I see the evidence. | ||
| Can I step in as both of your friends? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| We've gotten so crazy here that you guys are arguing and we didn't even discuss what this movie's about. | ||
| Like, it hasn't even been whether or not it is a Operation Mockingbird, whether it was a conspiracy theory or whether it was a real event. | ||
| We didn't even discuss what it is and you guys are at each other's throats. | ||
| It's kind of crazy. | ||
| I mean, we literally didn't even bring up what the subject is and Brian, you jumped on him. | ||
| Uh, no, no, I did not. | ||
| They both jump on each other. | ||
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
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You did. | |
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
| You did, because this seems to be a real thing. | ||
| Excuse me, you started talking about Pizzagate. | ||
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You can't say it's a real thing because of Wikipedia. | |
| It's on the internet. | ||
| Sir? | ||
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Sir? | |
| You brought up Pizzagate. | ||
| All I did with Pizzagate is a library. | ||
| I fucking for sure didn't bring it up. | ||
| No, he brought up Pizzagate. | ||
| I'm pointing my finger at you, motherfucker. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| I was saying, please don't bring up Pizzagate. | ||
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I just want to know what Pizzagate was. | |
| You fucking... | ||
| You're the fucking shitster! | ||
| I don't even want to talk about it! | ||
| And I don't even want to talk about it! | ||
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You! | |
| He's the guilty fuck! | ||
| Everybody brings it up! | ||
| And I don't even- You brought it up! | ||
| No, look at him! | ||
| He's the one who's the shitster! | ||
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I've never heard of pizza game! | |
| I was fucking interested! | ||
| Then you should- Oh, did you bring it up? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You son of a- You son of a bitch. | ||
| You threw kindling on the fire. | ||
| We should have talked beforehand. | ||
| Why did I think Eddie brought it up the whole time? | ||
| I'm like, I can't believe they're fighting over something called Pizzagate. | ||
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He said Pizzagate, and I was like, holy shit, that sounds interesting. | |
| You had me at Pizzagate. | ||
| I wanted to know what it was. | ||
| But I just wanted to say, because a lot of people on the internet want me to bring that shit up, and I'm like, I really don't want to bring it up. | ||
| That's some scary shit. | ||
| When you really look into it, shit that you've never done, when you actually look into it, when you look into it, doesn't even know... | ||
| Operation Mockingbird is a CIA operation where they were to prevent and control communism, infiltration. | ||
| They thought it would be best to buy up as many different broadcasting companies. | ||
| They wanted to own the media. | ||
| They wanted magazines, newspapers. | ||
| CNN is part of that shit. | ||
| Anderson Cooper is admitted a CIA agent. | ||
| He admits it. | ||
| He goes, yeah, I was in the CIA, so what? | ||
| He actually worked for them when he was in college. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| He did an internship or something like that? | ||
| You don't have to go to the CIA college to be a CIA agent. | ||
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They make random dudes internationally. | |
| Look at me. | ||
| Anderson Cooper's not a CIA agent. | ||
| He could be. | ||
| Look into it. | ||
| Guys, look into it. | ||
| He worked for the CIA. Look, CIA had Operation Mockingbird. | ||
| We're going to control the media. | ||
| You buy into the media. | ||
| That's why you don't know about Operation Mockingbird. | ||
| You've been caught. | ||
| They got you. | ||
| I don't buy into the media. | ||
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Oh, they got you. | |
| I do not buy into the media. | ||
| Dude, they got you strong, son. | ||
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A long time ago, too. | |
| I bet you're pro-vaccine, right? | ||
| Okay, there you go, of course. | ||
| You're anti-vaccine all the way across? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're not really... | ||
| Not for smallpox, diphtheria, measles, and all the things, and mumps, and all the things. | ||
| That's all fake shit, B. All vaccines aren't the same. | ||
| So when you talk about vaccines, they're not all the same. | ||
| Some can be safe, and some can be dangerous. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I can understand that. | ||
| That's all I'm going to say about that. | ||
| That's all right. | ||
| That's a reasonable thing. | ||
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I agree with Eddie on that. | |
| Many doctors agree on that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what happened in 1986? | ||
| Ronald Reagan signed a bill that made Big Pharma immune to lawsuits. | ||
| Because Big Pharma was about to say, fuck making vaccines. | ||
| Too many people are suing us. | ||
| So Ronald Reagan had to come in and say, keep making them. | ||
| I'll make a bill where no one can sue you. | ||
| No, but they can't be sued. | ||
| They can't be sued. | ||
| Big Pharma gets sued all the time. | ||
| They don't get sued. | ||
| For vaccines. | ||
| For vaccines. | ||
| They can't get sued for vaccines. | ||
| If you want to sue anybody for vaccines, your kid gets fucked up from vaccines, you go to the vaccine court. | ||
| It's a federal agency where they give out I don't know how many fucking billions of goddamn dollars. | ||
| People have allergic reactions to vaccines. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| But since 1986, what happened is since 1986, since Big Pharma said, shit, we can't get sued, that's when if you actually look at vaccines and not just go, polio, what about polio? | ||
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What about smallpox? | |
| When you look at what happened, they fucking greenlit. | ||
| They're like, each vaccine's worth like a trillion dollars. | ||
| And they went, bing, bing, bing. | ||
| So now the kids have 36 fucking shots. | ||
| 64. It's crazy. | ||
| No, no, but that's the problem. | ||
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That's reasonable. | |
| So that would make sense. | ||
| So if you said to me, hey, Bri, once the pharmaceutical companies saw that there was a lot of money in giving preventative vaccines, and it goes up to 64 when it used to be 6 or 10 or whatever when I was a kid, now... | ||
| Now you go, oh, well that makes sense, because what does Big Pharma do? | ||
| They manipulate the FDA, they manipulate government. | ||
| The CDC? Yes. | ||
| They own the CDC. Right, so that they can then make money. | ||
| Brian, what you're saying sounds very much like a conspiracy. | ||
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No, no. | |
| All of a sudden he's fucking... | ||
| It's the weed setting. | ||
| That black helicopter is the weed setting. | ||
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You don't even know what Operation Mockingbird is. | |
| You don't know that you're caught in a CIA operation. | ||
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You don't even know that. | |
| That's not conspiracy. | ||
| That makes sense from a business point of view, which I can understand is insidious when you have huge corporations in cahoots with government. | ||
| Dangerous and shit. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| We can't get sued. | ||
| Why test? | ||
| They're green. | ||
| They're convincing the CDC with money. | ||
| Hey, pass this motherfucker really quick. | ||
| Major points for using in cahoots in a sentence correctly. | ||
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In cahoots. | |
| 5,000 points. | ||
| It's just common sense. | ||
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It's a racket. | |
| Common sense, really. | ||
| They own the media. | ||
| You don't think the fucking people that run shit own the media? | ||
| You gotta be an idiot to fucking not think... | ||
| The people that run shit own the media, own entertainment, own everything! | ||
| It doesn't mean... | ||
| Gangsters! | ||
| People that run this shit don't own the fucking media! | ||
| You don't own the TV, you dumb motherfucker! | ||
| It doesn't mean that you can't get credible information On a lot of topics, like the economy, like the war, whatever it is, if you know where to look, it doesn't mean you can't get credible information on the truth of what's going on. | ||
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| But to Eddie's point, that shit Washington Post is all... | ||
| Well, they're very liberal. | ||
| The mainstream media... | ||
| It's all controlled. | ||
| That ain't real shit. | ||
| That's all controlled. | ||
| It's part of the agenda. | ||
| It's all slowly, inch by inch, take away the guns, and let's fucking, let's control everybody and implode economies, fucking start civil wars. | ||
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They love that shit. | |
| But I don't think they like that. | ||
| I think that the- They love that shit. | ||
| If you said to me that the mainstream media And whether it's on the right or the left, has agendas and has been corrupted and has allowed their own personal points of view to infiltrate the news and so report unfairly and so report in a biased fashion and the news is no longer as objective as it was or should be. | ||
| I think it's a sham. | ||
| Now that makes sense. | ||
| If you say, for example, that GTE or GE owns certain news organizations, then that's a conflict or could be a conflict of interest. | ||
| And we have to be very careful because they may not report on GE's practices if they're irresponsible. | ||
| Now I can have a conversation because that would make sense to me. | ||
| That would make sense because – but when you say that everybody in the New York Times, the Washington Post is a CIA pawn. | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| There's an operation that the CIA – this is not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| Operation Mockingbird. | ||
| There's Operation Paperclip taking all the Nazis after World War II, Operation Paperclip taking thousands of Nazi scientists into the government and creating NASA, NASA Nazi scientists, and you believe... | ||
| They're masters of propaganda. | ||
| The Nazis were masters. | ||
| They put out films just to get people, just to get people, the people to get used to killing people like if they were a certain condition. | ||
| They put out propaganda films, and you can watch this shit, Deranged people on the street killing people. | ||
| People thought they would watch these newsreels, and they thought there was demented people on the streets killing people, and that was never happening. | ||
| They just wanted the people to agree that we can kill those people, right? | ||
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Because they're crazy. | |
| Yeah, because they're crazy. | ||
| No one's killing anybody, but it was all part of a propaganda agenda. | ||
| Can I give you a little perspective on that? | ||
| So Einstein came from Germany, and a lot of the Jewish scientists in the 30s, when there was this rise of anti-Semitism, migrated, immigrated, To the United States. | ||
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What about the Nazis forming NASA? NASA. What about that? | |
| When we realized that the Nazis were very close to creating a nuclear bomb, that they had some really amazing scientists. | ||
| Amazing! | ||
| Knew a lot of stuff. | ||
| I mean, there was a real scientific tradition. | ||
| Remember, that's where Einstein came out of. | ||
| In fact, the anti-Semitism that rose up in the 30s is why a lot of historians have credited the United States' ability to create a nuclear bomb before the Nazis because of that immigration. | ||
| So anti-Semitism in Germany actually pushed a lot of these brilliant scientists toward the U.K., toward the United States. | ||
| Didn't a bunch of the Nazi guys go to Russia as well? | ||
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Half of them went to Russia, half of them went to the States. | |
| Operation Paperclip, that's another one. | ||
| Probably when Russia took half of Germany, remember? | ||
| So there was East Berlin and West Berlin. | ||
| East Germany, West Germany. | ||
| So when they took East Germany, nobody was getting out of East Germany. | ||
| It was understandably. | ||
| Look, if you're going to be intelligent and pragmatic and the war is essentially over, right? | ||
| It's understandable to want to get their brightest minds and bring them over. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You've already conquered them, right? | ||
| This is post-World War II. To let them linger and become used by the establishment that you just defeated, that's crazy. | ||
| These are super geniuses. | ||
| If you're a genius... | ||
| Dude, these guys are fucking torturing people and experimenting on people. | ||
| Not these physicists. | ||
| Well, who knows? | ||
| Listen, we don't know. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| But I do know that the Simon Wiesenthal Center said that if Wernher von Braun, who was the head of NASA, if Wernher von Braun was alive today, they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity. | ||
| Because he was instrumental in coming up with weaponry that killed a lot of, you know, the Allies. | ||
| It was that. | ||
| It was also that they hung the five slowest Jews every day in front of his rocket factory in Berlin. | ||
| The ones who worked the slowest. | ||
| They would hang them. | ||
| These guys remembered it. | ||
| These guys who lived in Miami. | ||
| The guys who lived in Miami that were in the concentration camps, they interviewed them for this documentary on the moon landings and NASA and all the scientists behind it, and they were saying that they would see those guys come in, they would see those scientists come in, and they would hang the five slowest Jews in front of the building. | ||
| Those are the guys that were running NASA. That's the least of what went on in Nazi Germany. | ||
| You don't know what went on. | ||
| I mean, we don't know. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I don't know what went on. | ||
| I studied. | ||
| That was my area of focus. | ||
| Mainstream science? | ||
| I was a history major. | ||
| Mainstream science? | ||
| That was my area of focus, Nazi Germany. | ||
| Hey, maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| Maybe you're right about the Nazis and I'm wrong, but they seemed like they were fucking sick, twisted motherfuckers. | ||
| That's what they seem like. | ||
| Well, they were. | ||
| But maybe they weren't. | ||
| Maybe you're right. | ||
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Maybe they weren't. | |
| Who's saying they weren't? | ||
| You were calling them amazing and geniuses. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We're talking about the scientists. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| The scientists were the guys. | ||
| Eddie, Eddie, the scientists involved in the nuclear program. | ||
| They were doing crazy shit. | ||
| Hold on, Eddie. | ||
| There's different scientists that are the medical scientists versus different scientists that are engineers versus different scientists that are working towards nuclear weapons. | ||
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But they were Nazis, though. | |
| No, Eddie, many of the scientists were Jews. | ||
| And they weren't killed because they were instrumental. | ||
| They were too valuable. | ||
| All right, so NASA's fine. | ||
| At most, they're fine. | ||
| Well, a lot of the inventions that were made by the Haber method, That was made by a guy who was a Jewish guy, which is a crazy story. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| He also created something called Zyklon A, which was a gas that had a smell added to it so it would warn you that the gas was present. | ||
| It was an insecticide, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And the Nazis took it and they switched it to Zyklon B. They took the smell out of it so that you wouldn't smell it, and then they used it in the gas chamber. | ||
| So this guy who invented the Haber Method, where 50% of the nitrogen that's in most of the human beings on the planet Earth comes from. | ||
| Because nitrogen is how you fertilize. | ||
| You create fertilizer. | ||
| And this guy figured out how to draw nitrogen out from the atmosphere. | ||
| But this is how complicated he was. | ||
| He was a Jewish guy. | ||
| And while he was winning the Nobel Prize for the Haber Method, he was also being wanted for crimes against humanity because he figured out how to gas people, too. | ||
| Because he was a German patriot. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And there was a war going on. | ||
| They were using gas warfare for the first time on the Allies. | ||
| So at the same time that he created this method that's going to double the population of the world like that. | ||
| It saved a lot of people from starvation during the winter. | ||
| There's so much more food available now because most people don't know. | ||
| You've got to throw something into the ground in order for the soil to... | ||
| It's supposed to be a cycle. | ||
| Things are supposed to die on it. | ||
| Those things get absorbed into the cycle of the soil. | ||
| The soil is nutrient-rich, powerful, healthy plants grow from it. | ||
| But when you just keep putting corn in the same spot over and over and over again, you've got to throw some shit into the soil. | ||
| And Fritz Haber figured out how to get it out of the air itself, because the air is like 80% nitrogen. | ||
| You think of the air as being mostly oxygen. | ||
| You know, you think oxygen and carbon dioxide. | ||
| No, it's mostly nitrogen. | ||
| Isn't that incredible? | ||
| So this guy is fucking genius. | ||
| Did you read that on the library or the internet? | ||
| No, that was on the internet? | ||
| This is just a fact. | ||
| But where'd you read that? | ||
| I heard it on the radio lab, but then I read it all over the place. | ||
| On the internet or in the library? | ||
| I read it on the internet. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| That's bullshit, then. | ||
| Anyway, this hobber method. | ||
| Hey, man, you're being sarcastic. | ||
| Forget about politics and nonsense for a second. | ||
| Just think about what a genius you have to be to figure out how to pull nitrogen out of the air and put it in the soil, and all of a sudden everything grows better. | ||
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Yeah, smart dude. | |
| But what's also amazing is how complicated human beings are because it raises some really interesting questions. | ||
| The guy invents the gas that was used on the Jews, his own people. | ||
| However, he invented chemical weaponry because he was a German patriot and wanted Germany to win World War I and said, I have a better way to do this. | ||
| And so you put yourself in his position. | ||
| It raised a lot of difficult questions. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, he was a super complicated person. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| As are we all. | ||
| And like many geniuses, many like really fucking smart people like that are fucking very complicated. | ||
| Why didn't the Nazis just shoot the Jews? | ||
| Like line them up and just shoot them? | ||
| They did. | ||
| They did a lot of that. | ||
| They did six million of them. | ||
| Why would they buy the gas and then they gotta drag them out? | ||
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Because it was easier. | |
| They gotta drag them out of the showers. | ||
| They did a lot of different things. | ||
| Just put them in a room. | ||
| They starved them. | ||
| Yeah, they did a lot of different shit. | ||
| Put them in a room, they gas them, and then they all die. | ||
| Have you? | ||
| And then who's gonna drag them out? | ||
| Eddie, have you ever seen- Who drags them out? | ||
| You know, heavy body, dead body. | ||
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Oh wait, you're saying that- No, I'm just saying, why not just shoot them? | |
| No, he's saying, why not just shoot them? | ||
| I would have thought, like, gassing them. | ||
| They did shoot them. | ||
| It seems like sick and perverted and twisted. | ||
| Like, let's gas them. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Why gas them? | ||
| Why not just shoot them? | ||
| A lot of times when they gas them, they didn't know they were getting gassed, too, right? | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Why not just shoot them? | ||
| So you're going to have to drag them out. | ||
| So can I tell you why? | ||
| Mexicans, that's the way they do it. | ||
| They dig a big-ass fucking hole with a big-ass... | ||
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Tell them about the cartels? | |
| And then they just line them up. | ||
| But you know what they did? | ||
| They've got to clean up. | ||
| They're thinking ahead. | ||
| But they did that in the Russian countryside. | ||
| You can see video of it. | ||
| They dug massive graves and they'd make them dig their own graves. | ||
| And then they would just shoot them now. | ||
| But what happened? | ||
| Put them in the shower. | ||
| You've got to drag them out of the shower and they've got chemicals all over them. | ||
| But listen, what they would do is when they would bring them on the trains to Auschwitz, Tripolinka, and Dachau and all the different death camps, they couldn't... | ||
| If they started lining people up, what would happen? | ||
| Especially women and children. | ||
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Hysteria. | |
| Hysteria. | ||
| So what they said is they'd get off the train after this horrible train ride and they'd say, here's a bar of soap. | ||
| You're going to take a shower. | ||
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Yes. | |
| They'd put them all in these... | ||
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They'd trick them. | |
| And they'd trick them. | ||
| They'd be in these showers, quote-unquote showers. | ||
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But some would take showers, right? | |
| What's that? | ||
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Some actually would take showers, and some would be killed. | |
| That's right. | ||
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So they didn't know. | |
| So the strong... | ||
| So they mixed it up. | ||
| The ones that looked strong, they could use for work, they would work... | ||
| And the ones who were children went right away. | ||
| The ones who were healthy, too. | ||
| But the gas thing seems so twisted. | ||
| It seems so... | ||
| Why not just make them drink? | ||
| They did a lot of horrible things. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about! | ||
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Dude, no one's... | |
| That's NASA! You guys are saying they're all anti-Nazi. | ||
| But hold on a second. | ||
| Inventative gas to kill Jews. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| There's always going to be a difference between concentration camp guards and scientists. | ||
| Those guards must have been buff. | ||
| But that's the same thing as us. | ||
| It's like saying that you, as a martial artist, you train people at a fight, you probably have some connection with someone who's a corrections officer. | ||
| I do. | ||
| You know what I'm saying, though? | ||
| You do. | ||
| You know, but how much do you have an effect over what they do with their life? | ||
| The people who are working as corrections officers are probably, or the guards, rather, at Auschwitz, are probably so far removed from the fucking scientists. | ||
| It's not like they all get together and go, we're all evil, right? | ||
| Yeah, what are you doing today for evil? | ||
| Oh, I'm torturing the Jews. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
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I'm going to go with the Nazis are evil, all of them. | |
| No, Eddie, 100%. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
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No. | |
| 100% anybody who's subscribed to that ideology is evil. | ||
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100%. | |
| Eddie, Eddie, please. | ||
| No, Eddie, you know what? | ||
| The scientists didn't have a choice. | ||
| They had to work. | ||
| You couldn't say to the Hitler, the Nazi regime, hey, guys, I'm not going to work on your super bomb. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| You don't think of a scientist with a white fucking coat on just in front of a beaker like all day. | ||
| Those dudes went into twisted, occultist shit. | ||
| They're the ones that brought it in. | ||
| Maybe some of them. | ||
| They were into it. | ||
| Nazis, it was a religion. | ||
| It wasn't just like, oh, I got a white coat and I got a beaker all day. | ||
| All day I got a beaker. | ||
| There was a lot of people that were trying to get rid of Hitler. | ||
| Do you understand? | ||
| There were regular dudes who wanted to fuck. | ||
| But there was people that were trying to get rid of Hitler that thought he was crazy. | ||
| There was a lot of that going on, too. | ||
| There was failed assassination attempts, failed coup attempts. | ||
| It wasn't like they were all on board. | ||
| It's just he had massive amounts of power, and he was a fucking terrifying individual. | ||
| And he was a dynamic speaker. | ||
| He could get thousands of people. | ||
| Hitler was a... | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| And people were Have you seen his speeches? | ||
| They're so theatrical, it's unbelievable. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck he's saying. | ||
| You guys like Nazis. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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He was so well-spoken. | |
| This is so passionate. | ||
| I don't know what he was saying. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But when you listen to that guy talk, he's got it. | ||
| It's fun Jimmy bring it out whatever he's doing Sure, could Joey do I bet he could do Castro Hey Castro Hitler wouldn't go over well. | ||
| But guys, if you see my stand up, my stand up is pretty amazing. | ||
| That fucking guy with his limp. | ||
| How is Joey? | ||
| I love him because he only calls. | ||
| He'll never text. | ||
| If I text him, he calls. | ||
| He just did a thing for CISO. He just did this stand-up comedy special. | ||
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For CISO? Yeah, CISO. Where'd he shoot it at? | |
| He shot it in Chicago. | ||
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Oh, nice. | |
| Yeah, outside of... | ||
| The theater? | ||
| Just outside of Chicago, Rosemont. | ||
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Where were we at, B? Hey, my special's available on Monday. | |
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
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I'll call you. | |
| You can help me with that. | ||
| Call me. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
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But you don't know what the platform would be? | |
| It's gonna be on iTunes. | ||
| It'll be on Stitcher everything. | ||
| You can buy it. | ||
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Monday. | |
| No politics no more. | ||
| How's it Stitcher? | ||
| I mean iTunes. | ||
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That's audio. | |
| I gotta look at it, guys. | ||
| Stitcher's for a podcast, right? | ||
| I'm getting all the info on Monday. | ||
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He doesn't know. | |
| Stitcher people are like, what the fuck, bro? | ||
| You lied to us. | ||
| You let me down, man. | ||
| Hey, what's going on? | ||
| Brian, you were always number one in my book. | ||
| No, you're number four. | ||
| No, the audio will be- Keep slipping, bro. | ||
| The audio will be available. | ||
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And I'll tell you what's really good news- That post you made today- I want to punch you in the face. | |
| You fucked up pretty bad. | ||
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You fucked it up. | |
| No, it'll be on iTunes and it'll be on Google Play. | ||
| I don't think we've made one comment about the fight. | ||
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The next fight's good. | |
| Hey, Jake Ellenberger's fighting Masvidal. | ||
| That's a motherfucking fight. | ||
| It's a very good fight. | ||
| That's a very good fight. | ||
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Yeah, tonight, sir. | |
| But the rugged handsomeness of Brett Favre just distracted me for a brief moment. | ||
| Damn right. | ||
| It looks better as he gets older. | ||
| You ever seen his dick pic? | ||
| He gives less a fuck. | ||
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You ever seen his dick pic? | |
| Yes. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Sad. | ||
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But it could have been photoshopped and I'm always willing to hold out hope. | |
| I wouldn't allow him in the Hall of Fame. | ||
| If that came out before the Hall of Fame, you ain't in. | ||
| It might be an inside joke that just no one's telling you about. | ||
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Never. | |
| He's a grower, not a shower. | ||
| It could be an inside joke. | ||
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Get Crocs on, son. | |
| It might have been part of the inside joke. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's such a stunt. | ||
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I'd eat the shit out of that right now. | |
| Uh, Brett Vaughn, he didn't even comment on it. | ||
| He's just, yeah, what can you do? | ||
| Yeah, that's the way to do it. | ||
| Is that the best way to do it? | ||
| Isn't that the best way to do a scandal? | ||
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Hell yeah. | |
| Uh, probably. | ||
| Which depends on what the scandal is, right? | ||
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If you're Wiener, no. | |
| Anthony Wiener, go ahead and address that shit. | ||
| Yeah, you probably should. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But sometimes it's just like, ah, fuck it. | ||
| This fucking fight, man. | ||
| Pettis versus Holloway is going to be lit. | ||
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Hey, Max Holloway. | |
| Is that today? | ||
| That's next week. | ||
| Hey, what happened to the cowboy's eye? | ||
| Is that real? | ||
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No. | |
| Oh, it's not? | ||
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No. | |
| All right. | ||
| But you're talking about it, right? | ||
| So it serves its purpose. | ||
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That's a fun card, man. | |
| It's a great card. | ||
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Holloway, nine in a row, fucking Connor had to be like, all right, I'm not going. | |
| They had to strip him off a belt, and then finally he gets a title shot. | ||
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God damn it. | |
| Give the guy a goddamn... | ||
| And it's kind of a fake inter... | ||
| Because they're like, Jose's the champ. | ||
| This is for an interim title. | ||
| But he's the champ. | ||
| Why not just give it to him? | ||
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Yeah, for an interim title. | |
| No, I know, but you already have a champ. | ||
| But they're going to fight for their term. | ||
| Alright, I like belts. | ||
| Fuck it, let's do it. | ||
| If that gets Max or Anthony Pettis a belt, let's fucking ride. | ||
| I feel the same way. | ||
| I feel the same way. | ||
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I like it. | |
| I like that fight, man. | ||
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Everyone gets belts. | |
| The only thing I wonder about that fight is I wonder how well Pettis' body adapted to 145. Here's the real question, Joe. | ||
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Remember, they weren't the main event. | |
| Now they are five rounds. | ||
| Now, we've seen them adapt all right with two to three rounds at 45. Imagine round four and five, the championship rounds. | ||
| Now, let me ask you this. | ||
| Harder because he loses weight? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Cardio. | ||
| Let me ask you this as a guy who... | ||
| Have you ever fought five? | ||
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Never fought five, no. | |
| Never fought for title two. | ||
| Thanks for bringing that up. | ||
| No, that's not what I meant. | ||
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I know, I'm just kidding. | |
| But do you feel that those, like, when you get in shape to go a hard three, how much of a difference is there between the hard three and the hard five? | ||
| Is it mental? | ||
| At a certain point in time, how much more training, how much in better shape could you really get? | ||
| And is it one of those things where it's just harder? | ||
| You've got to be more educated. | ||
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It's the pace, yeah. | |
| But is it just harder? | ||
| Or does it require more time to prepare for five rounds? | ||
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No. | |
| So you get in peak shape. | ||
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No matter what. | |
| Peak shape is peak shape. | ||
| And the difference is between you just having to fight 15 minutes and the potential of 25. Correct. | ||
| See, didn't you spar 25 minutes all the time? | ||
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I usually go 7 rounds. | |
| But to your point, I think it's the pacing in the early rounds. | ||
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Take, for instance, Brunson vs. | |
| Whitaker. | ||
| When he came out, I went, oh, he's not fighting to go 5 rounds. | ||
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He's just trying to Trying to get out of it. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Trying to win and get out. | ||
| Because everyone in the world knows at that level, you can't go for a five-round fight. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| By the way, let me just say, Sarah McMahon's about to fight. | ||
| She feels like Glacen Tebow. | ||
| You put your hand on her shoulder. | ||
| I mean that in a good way. | ||
| She's such a mesomorph tank. | ||
| She's a tank. | ||
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I'm a fan of hers. | |
| The girl's really strong. | ||
| Powerful wrestler. | ||
| Silver medalist in the Olympics. | ||
| She don't like jiu-jitsu, though. | ||
| I hope that's changed. | ||
| No, she said it. | ||
| She said she's not into it. | ||
| God, she would be so good at it. | ||
| And is there any woman that you've ever rolled with that gave you any kind of fits or any problem? | ||
| Not to be sexist, but be honest. | ||
| I'm sure if I rolled with Gabby Garcia, she'd fuck me up. | ||
| She's big, dude. | ||
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Mackenzie might put something heavy on you. | |
| Mackenzie. | ||
| Every girl I roll with, they're too light. | ||
| They're little. | ||
| They're like 125 pounds, 135. I'm like, 145? | ||
| Let me queue up the time here so we'll actually try to watch this. | ||
| 442, 441, 440, 439, all of the first round. | ||
| It's Sarah McMahon versus Alexis Davis. | ||
| Do you think that that stoppage when she fought Ronda and got kneed? | ||
| 100% legit. | ||
| It was legit? | ||
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Super legit. | |
| Ronda cracked her with the right hand, then cracked her with the knee, and then put the mitts to her. | ||
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She was in trouble. | |
| Yes. | ||
| What if McMahon developed some serious stand-up? | ||
| She does have good stand-up. | ||
| She just ran into the freight train that is Ronda Rousey. | ||
| She's a decent fighter all around. | ||
| She does a lot of things good all around. | ||
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She is muscular as fuck. | |
| She's an Olympian, son. | ||
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Dude, how much of a bummer is that DC's out against Rumble? | |
| That's a bummer. | ||
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Ain't that a bitch? | |
| Is that his knee or what is it? | ||
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Groin. | |
| He had surgery, too. | ||
| Alexis Davis beat Amanda Nunes. | ||
| Dude, look at this. | ||
| Way back in the dizzy. | ||
| She's tough, dude. | ||
| But Ronda was just too much for her. | ||
| She beat both of them, right? | ||
| Who else? | ||
| Ronda beat both of these girls, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, Ronda smushed both of them. | ||
| She gave both of them the smush arena. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| She smushed Sarah McMahon with a knee. | ||
| Oh, that's a good move with that elbow right there. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| That's good shit. | ||
| People don't do that enough. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Just throw those short elbows. | ||
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Ooh, wow. | |
| That hurts. | ||
| There's some serious shit going on right there. | ||
| Yeah, she does not like that. | ||
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And you gotta react to it, too, when they throw elbows like that. | |
| Pele Landy was the first dude. | ||
| Anytime Pele Landy back in the day in the late Landys in Brazil. | ||
| Oh, oh. | ||
| He would do this all day on dudes. | ||
| These are hard. | ||
| She's trapped now. | ||
| Instead of her being in a good position, she's trapped getting elbowed. | ||
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Well, she's in protection mode. | |
| Eddie, do you remember Jason Day? | ||
| He was like one of the first guys to figure out how to do that from the rubber guard. | ||
| Eddie, what do you do in this situation? | ||
| You go right there. | ||
| Start throwing elbows right now with the left elbow. | ||
| What does Sarah McMahon do here? | ||
| She needs to posture up or not punch. | ||
| Because if Alexis Davis really knew how to play some high-level rubber guard, She would have never let Sarah McMahon have her hand on the mat and then have the hand on the chest, have the hand on the mat. | ||
| Once the hand's on the mat, boom, it stays there. | ||
| We're not going back to the chest. | ||
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Check this out, though. | |
| She's about to triangle this bitch. | ||
| Ah, fuck. | ||
| I didn't mean to say bitch. | ||
| She has a lot of potential. | ||
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I didn't mean to say bitch. | |
| I started laughing at that. | ||
| Hey, you couldn't help it. | ||
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What about you guys who are free from Fox? | |
| You can just let those bitches loose. | ||
| You got them all corralled up in your brain. | ||
| Let them bitches loose. | ||
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Get them all corralled. | |
| See, on this side, on her right side, see where Sarah McMahon's right arm is? | ||
| That should never be there. | ||
| When your right arm is pinned to the ground like that, and you have someone with a strong rubber guard, especially someone who's already taken mission control with that left leg up, the first thing to do is to trap that arm. | ||
| So once that arm is down on the ground like that, you never want to give it back. | ||
| And she keeps giving it back over and over and over again. | ||
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Here's the thing, though. | |
| Sarah's winning. | ||
| Sarah's winning this round, gentlemen. | ||
| Yeah, she is. | ||
| But what I'm saying is there's a lot of opportunities for Alexis Davis off her back. | ||
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No, I'm with you. | |
| She's just not doing anything. | ||
| Every time Sarah McMahon puts her hand onto the ground like that, she's extremely vulnerable. | ||
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You keep it there. | |
| You keep it there. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And then you work off that. | ||
| Everything comes off that. | ||
| She's very vulnerable. | ||
| A person with a very good rubber guard, as soon as you put your arm down on the mat, they're going to immediately overhook that arm, try to trap it in place, and then try to go to mission control. | ||
| She achieved mission control. | ||
| She just didn't exactly know what to do once she got there. | ||
| So she didn't try to progress any further. | ||
| And then there was the punches. | ||
| But first of all, if you just want to elbow someone, if you watch the Alan Belcher-Jason Day fight, Jason Day was, you know, he beat Alan Belcher... | ||
| Really, early on, when Belcher's a fantastic fighter, and since then... | ||
| Belcher beat Paul Harries. | ||
| Beat Paul Harries at his own game. | ||
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At his prime. | |
| At his own game. | ||
| Went leg-locked with him and dominated the position and beat the shit out of him. | ||
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I love Alan Belcher. | |
| So it's not a diss on Alan Belcher. | ||
| I love that dude. | ||
| But Jason Day showed how effective that position could be in holding that spot and blasting elbows in place. | ||
| So there's a lot of people that use the first couple of steps of the position, but they don't know high-level shit from then out. | ||
| It's a long process. | ||
| It's like trying to shoot doubles, but you don't really practice wrestling. | ||
| She's in a good position. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like, okay, I see you're trying to shoot a double. | ||
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She's getting pretty nasty. | |
| Oh, look at that! | ||
| She was in a good position. | ||
| Man, she's so close to finishing this fight. | ||
| She's so close. | ||
| She shouldn't hit her. | ||
| She should cinch it up because hitting her is going to bash her out. | ||
| She needs to scoot that left leg over. | ||
| She's got to scoot that left leg over. | ||
| Don't tap. | ||
| You've got ten seconds. | ||
| The left leg's got to be closer to us. | ||
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That's a good shot right there. | |
| Oh man, that was phenomenal. | ||
| Alexis Davis got A lot of potential off her back. | ||
| She could be a fucking assassin. | ||
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She should have finished that? | |
| That was nasty. | ||
| That was nasty. | ||
| It all depends what level you are with it. | ||
| My high level rubber guard players, they wouldn't last like 30 seconds there. | ||
| That would have all just been a wrap around it. | ||
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You're saying pure jiu-jitsu guys? | |
| Pure jiu-jitsu. | ||
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Yes, pure jiu-jitsu guys. | |
| When punches come into play, obviously there's a big difference. | ||
| It doesn't even matter. | ||
| The punches will make it easier. | ||
| Punches make it easier. | ||
| The way you stop rubber guard, don't punch. | ||
| Unless Crow Cop elbows you in the fucking mug. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Then you're not in rubber guard. | ||
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You can't get elbowed in rubber guard, so if you get elbowed, you're not in rubber guard. | |
| It's really tough to get a guy in rubber guard if he's aware of rubber guard, yes? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I mean, there's counters, but then you just keep playing the game. | ||
| It's like saying, if you try to throw that head kick, dudes will get out of the way, right? | ||
| Yeah, they'll get out of the way, but you still fucking throw it. | ||
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There's ways to set it up. | |
| Yeah, you set it up. | ||
| It's exactly the same thing. | ||
| That's exactly the same way to say it. | ||
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Dude, trust me. | |
| I got guys, all they play is rubber guard. | ||
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Oh, I bet, man. | |
| High-level guys come through all the time, and I see it. | ||
| I witness it. | ||
| I'm looking at them like... | ||
| That's all I play. | ||
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No, you go down that rabbit hole, you're in trouble. | |
| Imagine how crazy I would be pushing some shit that I don't even play. | ||
| Damn, good leg kick. | ||
| How crazy would I be? | ||
| It just takes a lot of time. | ||
| And did you invent this? | ||
| Girls, this is a hell of a scrap! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Beautiful takedown. | ||
| Circa McMahon's base is ridiculous. | ||
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100%. | |
| He invented it, he named it, the whole deal. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| That's innovative. | ||
| There were some guys that had did some interesting guards in the past, and Nino Shambri had a lot of really cool stuff, but what Eddie did was he put together a system, especially a system that's really effective no-gi. | ||
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And named it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's... | ||
| And then he came up with the Eddie Bravo Invitational, which I've heard you guys say is way more exciting to watch. | ||
| Did you watch it? | ||
| No, but... | ||
| The greatest CBI ever. | ||
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Aren't we doing one Saturday, Eddie, in Austin? | |
| That's an Onnit Invitational this Saturday. | ||
| Eddie, look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Total potential electric chair position. | ||
| She was back there. | ||
| She was in a position where she could have totally done it. | ||
| Sarah gets... | ||
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Sarah's base is ridiculous, man. | |
| Being an Olympic-level wrestler, she'd be tough to deal with. | ||
| What Sarah McMahon needs to do is free her right knee and then go to three-quarter mount. | ||
| That's all she's got to do. | ||
| That's the Damien Maia route. | ||
| Damien Maia is something else. | ||
| She's got really good control here. | ||
| Have you ever rolled with Damien? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He'd probably fuck me up. | ||
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He's a beast. | |
| Well, he's bigger than you. | ||
| Well, he's just... | ||
| He's so, like... | ||
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He's a master. | |
| You know what I love about what he does? | ||
| It's so old school. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't look like he's doing much, but he's on top of you. | ||
| He's back to his roots, dude. | ||
| He's cutting right through all your bullshit. | ||
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Yeah, there's no... | |
| It's no jibber-chabber, it's just cutting through the bullshit. | ||
| He's just cutting right through all your bullshit and putting the smoosh down on you. | ||
| When you watch really high-level wrestlers, it's the same thing. | ||
| They're not doing anything fancy. | ||
| They're doing arm drags, single legs, but they're so flawless with it. | ||
| Well, you know, when he did it to Carlos Condit, I was shaking my head like, God damn. | ||
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Everyone. | |
| Dude, look at the Condit though. | ||
| She's got an arm triangle right here. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Sarah McMahon with the arm triangle, but she's still in the guard. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| She's trapped in the half guard. | ||
| Yeah, it would be over here with some of my guys. | ||
| Why should she get out of this half guard? | ||
| There's not enough pressure here. | ||
| You don't really need to. | ||
| You don't really need to. | ||
| She could take her time right here. | ||
| She could just wear her out right here and eventually pull that right knee out. | ||
| Yeah, just go to three-quarters You don't really even need a mount. | ||
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She needs to use her left foot to free that leg. | |
| She knows what's up. | ||
| This is how you set it up. | ||
| Inch by inch. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| That's the best defense right there. | ||
| Turn away! | ||
| Turn away! | ||
| If she would have just held on to that leg, it's over now. | ||
| She's going out. | ||
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She said, oh, you do jiu-jitsu, bitch. | |
| She would have just held on to her leg. | ||
| She would have been fine. | ||
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Powerful Sarah McMahon! | |
| No, she turned into the choke. | ||
| You go away from that choke. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| Sarah McMahon is the master of a side choke. | ||
| It wasn't about just choking. | ||
| It was the 17 steps before that, how she set it all up. | ||
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For sure. | |
| Man, she was on that shit. | ||
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Not to mention, she's a fucking horse. | |
| That helps, too. | ||
| She gets it. | ||
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She got the chopping block. | |
| Hey dude, you can't go hoarse! | ||
| You can't! | ||
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Because Shane Carwin, he barely knew jiu-jitsu. | |
| If he got that on you and he was a fucking Cridesdale, he'd crush your fucking neck. | ||
| If you guys want to see grappling and what it looks like, literally it's fine. | ||
| Kale Sanderson's gold medal match I think against this Korean guy watch what he looks like he's like going for a walk in the park like he's doing ankle pics and weird shit where it looks like he's literally kind of like you know kind of moving at half speed. | ||
| You know how good Yoel Romero is? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yoel Romero beat Kale Sanderson twice. | ||
| Twice. | ||
| That's how scary a freak athlete you are. | ||
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I like that right there. | |
| I like Bisbee's chances in that fight. | ||
| Look at that shit. | ||
| Look at that shit. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
| Super constrictor. | ||
| She would've just held that arm. | ||
| She slipped. | ||
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She turns into it like a fucking move. | |
| All she had to do was hold onto the leg and it was done. | ||
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Hold on, Eddie. | |
| Let me know if I'm wrong here. | ||
| Hold on the leg and turn away from the choking pressure. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| At that point, you're just like that until they let go of the grip. | ||
| As soon as they let go of the grip, you're gone. | ||
| So you hold on to her leg? | ||
| No, she held on to her own leg. | ||
| Her own leg. | ||
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Because the arm that's in the choke, you don't want it like this. | |
| You want it like this. | ||
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If it's like this from the elbow here, you're good. | |
| If you're like this, you're choked. | ||
| So you want it here. | ||
| So what this does is this keeps it here. | ||
| Holding your own leg, you're like this. | ||
| If someone does that, do you go to the impaler if they try that defense? | ||
| Do you try to go knee to chest? | ||
| I always do arm triangles from the mount. | ||
| I never let them have the opportunity to grab their leg. | ||
| You just take it right from the mount. | ||
| I never even leave them out. | ||
| Because if I leave them out, they're going to do that. | ||
| If you know that defense, it stops all arm triangles. | ||
| Yeah, but from that impaler, I remember trying that defense on you. | ||
| That's a mount. | ||
| That's kind of a mount. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| That knee is going to be in the way of this, right? | ||
| But you can push that motherfucker out. | ||
| So really, the best thing to do is just do a mount where it's kind of like knee on the belly, but your knee is on the ground, so it's like a deep knee on the belly. | ||
| That's the best spot right there. | ||
| There's no defense. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Which knee is on the ground? | ||
| Say if you're on left. | ||
| It's like knee on the belly. | ||
| Same side that she just got, right? | ||
| So it'd be your left knee on her belly. | ||
| But instead of having the knee actually on the belly, it's actually all the way through. | ||
| It's like your shin across the stomach. | ||
| Knee really heavy on the mat. | ||
| Because if you had your knee on your belly and they knew the defense, they would fucking pop that motherfucker up and grab their leg. | ||
| And now they're good. | ||
| I see. | ||
| So you have the left knee on the right side of their body and the shin across the top. | ||
| So there's no way they could grab their leg. | ||
| So there's more of a mount. | ||
| It's more of a mount. | ||
| You might as well mount, but that is actually better than a mount. | ||
| Well, I know when you would do it, a lot of times you would do it, we would call it the impaler. | ||
| Do you still do that? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't even need it. | ||
| That's terrifying, that impaler. | ||
| Thank God you stopped doing it. | ||
| It was horrific. | ||
| It's always there. | ||
| It's a knee right to the sternum. | ||
| It's just massive pressure. | ||
| As you put the side choke in. | ||
| So you put the side choke in, and then the knee is on the sternum. | ||
| Jesus Christ, that sounds terrible. | ||
| Right into your neck. | ||
| It's actually sternum, neck. | ||
| It's like both, both. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't work on everybody, but that's the best way to stop that defense where you're grabbing the leg. | ||
| For me, it was always the impaler. | ||
| The impaler always stopped that because you wanted so bad to get that knee off your chest. | ||
| You were willing to let your legs go, just try to push that knee aside, and then you just fall right into the chest. | ||
| I'd only go to the impaler when... | ||
| The regular shit ain't working and he's got like a little angle. | ||
| He's got a little spot. | ||
| It's not lined up perfect. | ||
| So now we got to go fuck it. | ||
| Let's just hold this and drive a knee right in his neck. | ||
| And that's usually what makes him tap. | ||
| Dude, you did the impaler on me one time and I really thought my chest was going to crack. | ||
| I thought my sternum was going to crack. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| It's a terrible feeling because like someone's cranking down on your neck. | ||
| You got head and arm trapped in there, right? | ||
| You got that arm choke in there. | ||
| And then they got their knee on your chest. | ||
| Eddie, how long did you wrestle for? | ||
| You were a wrestler. | ||
| Two years. | ||
| Just two years? | ||
| But you were good, huh? | ||
| I sucked. | ||
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Really? | |
| Terrible. | ||
| I got one takedown in two years. | ||
| When did you realize, when you started rolling in jiu-jitsu, when did you, one, realize this was it? | ||
| Like you want to do it? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But I did learn the twister there, which is actually the wrestler's guillotine. | ||
| Oh, you weren't laughing about my shitty wrestling? | ||
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No, I was. | |
| One takedown in two years is what I was laughing at. | ||
| But I didn't get shit out of takedowns or anything. | ||
| I was actually pretty good at arm drags, but you know how they say it's like a bike? | ||
| I think after like 30 years, it's not like a bike no more. | ||
| You gotta start all over. | ||
| Your body completely forgot it, and you are a fucking white belt, because I suck at arm drags. | ||
| In high school, that was my shit. | ||
| But what was also my shit was, I was a leg rider, because I was weak. | ||
| While everybody was supposed to be lifting weights, I was on the side of the fucking building, just like... | ||
| So I had to be a leg rider. | ||
| Every wrestling team had three leg riders. | ||
| In all my wrestling, my whole life, I never once threw legs in. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| Some guys were so good at it. | ||
| No, no, most people don't. | ||
| There's only like three per class. | ||
| And I was one of those guys. | ||
| It was the weak guys. | ||
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You guys should start a podcast. | |
| Nico... | ||
| It's Wrestling Talk, buddy. | ||
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Hey, bud. | |
| It's Wrestling Talk. | ||
| Nicko Chia was the guy who showed me the Twister. | ||
| I forget his first name. | ||
| Something Nicko Chia. | ||
| Fuck, I forget his first name. | ||
| He's the one who showed me the Twister. | ||
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Eddie, I got a question for you. | |
| What do you think's next for your boy, Tony Ferguson? | ||
| Alex. | ||
| Alex Nicko Chia. | ||
| That guy is the guy who... | ||
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Shout out to Alex. | |
| Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. | ||
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Shout out to Alex. | |
| Alex Nicoccia is the guy who showed it to me. | ||
| Alex Nicoccia should be a fucking t-shirt. | ||
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Hopefully he's still alive, right? | |
| He is still alive. | ||
|
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You're positive? | |
| Juliana Pena. | ||
| Dude, I'm not, I'm 46. I'm not 80. I'm just saying! | ||
| The guy was in 11th grade and I was in 9th. | ||
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Oh, gotcha. | |
| I thought he was the coach. | ||
| And Jesse Barrios. | ||
| He was the only other leg rider. | ||
| Shout out to Jesse, too. | ||
| I learned the twister in high school. | ||
| And then when I went to jiu-jitsu, I was like, shit, I already got one move. | ||
| So my takedowns suck, but I got one move. | ||
| I couldn't fucking do it on jiu-jitsu players because in wrestling, you could do it because you give up backs. | ||
| You know, when you give up a back, you stick a leg hook in, it's really easy, but in jiu-jitsu, giving the back is the ultimate sin. | ||
| So I was like, damn it, no one's even giving me their fucking back. | ||
| How am I gonna do this? | ||
| The only move I know in grappling. | ||
| And then so slowly, I had to figure out how to get to the wrestler's guillotine, which later became the twister because Higgin and John Jacques named it that shit. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Jean-Jacques was your original teacher, right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| What a great guy. | ||
|
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Is this a promotion for these two fighting? | |
| What's going on right now? | ||
| I can't hear shit. | ||
| It seems like it's Aldo gets the title now because he won the interim title with Frankie and now they're showing Pettis highlights the Showtime kick. | ||
| Damn. | ||
|
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It's a little weird he's fighting for a title, yeah? | |
| Because he's lost two of his last three? | ||
| What happened in his last fight? | ||
| He won. | ||
|
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He won. | |
| He beat. | ||
| Who did he beat? | ||
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Oliveira, right? | |
| That's right. | ||
| He submitted him. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And before that, he lost. | ||
| Look, he's still Anthony motherfucking Pettis, dude. | ||
| He was still the UFC lightweight champion. | ||
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It's a brutal game. | |
| You're going to lose some, you're going to win some. | ||
| Doesn't mean like, oh, it's over for him. | ||
| Just keep fighting. | ||
|
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I'm not saying it's over. | |
| No one's saying it's over. | ||
| I'm saying it's a little strange that he's getting a title shot. | ||
|
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That's all I'm saying. | |
| My question. | ||
| At 45 now. | ||
| At 45? | ||
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45 is fucking stupid. | |
| Anthony Pettis was the 55 champ. | ||
| He was the champ. | ||
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Excuse me, sir, two years ago. | |
| Yeah, so 45 is like, yeah, he's going to be right there in the mix. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That's Anthony fucking Pettis at 45? | ||
| That's a nightmare. | ||
| Okay, well, Max Holloway won nine in a row, and he's just getting a title shot. | ||
| It is true. | ||
| Shit's not fair in the UFC. You know that. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
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I'm just saying. | |
| I love Anthony Pesce. | ||
| He's one of my favorite people in the UFC. I'm scared of what's going on. | ||
| I'm scared of the direction the UFC's going for some reason. | ||
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You should be. | |
| What are you scared of? | ||
| It used to be that it was Dana and Lorenzo and Frank was right there. | ||
| You had faces. | ||
| You could actually get to them and make a change. | ||
| It was like doing the right thing for the sport. | ||
| It was all about... | ||
| We're all here. | ||
| We're working together. | ||
| We're doing the right thing for the sport. | ||
| The right rules for the sport. | ||
| We're trying to make it right. | ||
| And now... | ||
| Dude, those guys don't even fucking own the UFC no more. | ||
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What's a business, Eddie? | |
| Like, who owns it? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Dude, that shit, when you start looking at it. | ||
| The Illuminati owns it. | ||
| Faceless, faceless people. | ||
| Basically. | ||
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Tower 7. Well, not faceless. | |
| There's Ari Emanuel, Dana White, Conan O'Brien. | ||
| There's a few celebrities who own it now. | ||
| Well, Ari Emanuel in particular. | ||
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Correct. | |
| I met Ari. | ||
| I talked to Ari. | ||
| He's a very nice guy. | ||
|
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I'm sure he is. | |
| Very smart guy. | ||
| He listens. | ||
| Wicked smart. | ||
| He really wants to do the best thing they can for the sport. | ||
| Who knows what kind of changes they'll make once they settle in. | ||
| But these guys are masters of entertainment business. | ||
| They know how to handle things. | ||
| They're big fans of the sport. | ||
| But also, on the fighter side, that Mixed Martial Arts Athletes Association is the first time where it's a serious issue for them to address. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| How many different unions are there? | ||
| I heard there's more than one. | ||
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I'm not sure, but I'll tell you this, Joe. | |
| It's Mixed Martial Arts Athletes Association. | ||
| Which I'm part of. | ||
| Tim Kennedy, so there's four board members, right, and they just announced it. | ||
| They have over 200 fighters right now on board with it. | ||
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So it's the first, like, legit movement of it. | |
| Now, what does that entail, like, when you're on board? | ||
| So that means, like, if you go to fight for, you know, you have a UFC fight coming up. | ||
| Like, how does that, or a Bellator, right? | ||
| Because it's for everything, right? | ||
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It's for everything. | |
| It's for any organization. | ||
| Correct, but it's mainly made up, especially right now, of major UFC players. | ||
| Here's a good question. | ||
| Does that hold true for Ryzen and stuff like that? | ||
| What about if you fight overseas? | ||
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I'm not sure. | |
| I know their focus is UFC because it's the top dog. | ||
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So if you start at the top, it's going to trickle down. | |
| So the idea is that they're going to have a set... | ||
| A set amount of money we're going to make per fight. | ||
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Correct. | |
| And they're modeling after the baseball union, which is like the best in the world as far as compensation and equal rights. | ||
| So this is good stuff? | ||
| This is good stuff. | ||
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Great stuff. | |
| Oh, shit, okay. | ||
| Think about the guys on board. | ||
| Is there any potential? | ||
| Yeah, well, a bunch of UFC fighters, which is interesting. | ||
| Tim Kennedy, Donald Cerrone, which is a big one, GSP, TJ Dillashaw. | ||
| What's really weird is what Tim Kennedy said about Bjorn. | ||
| He was like a necessary evil. | ||
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He's basically like, who's your boy from Balco? | |
| Not your boy, but you've had him on the show. | ||
| Victor Conte from Balco? | ||
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So you know how Victor Conte was on the dark side? | |
| And then he came out and was like, I know how this shit works. | ||
|
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Now I'm for the good guys. | |
| I'm going to tell you what they're trying to do. | ||
| That's what Bjorn's doing. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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He's like, when they say this, this is what he means by this. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Well, you know, who the fuck knows, man? | ||
|
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Because I was suspect when I saw Bjorn. | |
| I was like, I can't be, you know, I've heard stories about him, so I'm like, I don't want to be part eight. | ||
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And then when I talked to Tim Kennedy, that motherfucker talked me into running through a wall. | |
| I got the phone on the camera. | ||
| All right, buddy. | ||
| Who's taking Mike Goldberg's spot? | ||
|
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Mike Goldberg's not part of the MMA Association. | |
| There's rumors he was, he's not. | ||
| That'd be kind of conflict of interest. | ||
| But the thing is... | ||
| You're thinking about Bill Goldberg? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The dude from the WWE, yes. | ||
| No Whoopi Goldberg. | ||
| Like, how high are you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Goldberg made a comeback, man. | ||
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Yeah, he did. | |
| He played in the NFL, which I didn't know. | ||
| Isn't that a show called The Goldbergs? | ||
| He's a giant dude. | ||
| You're on it? | ||
| You're on The Goldbergs? | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| That's the one where you're like a high school... | ||
| I'm the coach. | ||
| You're a coach. | ||
| I'm not only am I the coach, but they're doing a spin-off on ABC of the characters. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| That's amazing! | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| Yeah, that's awesome, dude. | ||
| Dude, it's about time, dude. | ||
| You're a funny motherfucker. | ||
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Thank you, brother. | |
| You may be lost in politics and shit, but dude, I'll never forget that New Year's fucking Eve, dude. | ||
| You laughed, right? | ||
| Dude, you had me fucking... | ||
| Dude, you crushed my soul when you were doing that. | ||
| I heard you laughing from the wings. | ||
| By the way, if you like laughing, this weekend, Fort Lauderdale Improv. | ||
| That's all I'm going to say. | ||
| Come see me. | ||
| Oh, that place is the shit. | ||
| Dude, my favorite place to perform. | ||
| It's my favorite place to perform. | ||
| How often do you go there? | ||
| You go there a lot. | ||
| I don't go there nearly enough. | ||
| I go there once a year. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| Yeah, and I love it so much. | ||
| We're going to bring the fighter and kid there. | ||
| We have to. | ||
| It's a fun spot. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you. | ||
| People in Florida are fucking savage. | ||
| Dude, I love Palm Beach. | ||
| My greatest shows are at the Fort Lauderdale Improv. | ||
| Palm Beach, Florida. | ||
| Florida people are savage. | ||
| Eddie, I could hear you laughing. | ||
| It was so great. | ||
| We did the Chicago Theater. | ||
| 3,500 people. | ||
| And I'm listening to Eddie cackle in the wings. | ||
| It was beautiful. | ||
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This will be a fun fight. | |
| Are you guys doing some kind of New Year's show at the Orpheum? | ||
| That's fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, you know what I did? | |
| Tony Hinchcliffe is there, right? | ||
| Tony and Joey Diaz. | ||
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Tony just started his podcast. | |
| I was his first guest yesterday at the comic store. | ||
| It's called The Pony Hour. | ||
| I named it for him. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
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He was like, I don't have a name. | |
| I said, sir, it's The Pony Hour. | ||
| How did the Orpheum... | ||
| Come on. | ||
| That guy's got some nipples. | ||
| You ever play there before? | ||
| He's got some nipples. | ||
| I'll suck those. | ||
| Bill Burr did New Year's there last year. | ||
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Sorry, man. | |
| And I was just looking for a place to do New Year's, and when the agents look for theaters that are available, that's the one they came to me with. | ||
| That's a good one, man. | ||
| Oh, I know the place from EBI. I love that place. | ||
| That's our home, man. | ||
| I was excited. | ||
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That's our goddamn home, dude. | |
| I met the owner. | ||
| I met your boy. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Steve Needleman is the baddest motherfucker on the planet. | ||
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How many does it seat? | |
| Shout out to Steve. | ||
| Where is this? | ||
| Where is the... | ||
| It's the Orpheum in downtown LA. How many does it seat, Joe? | ||
| 800? | ||
| I would say 1,900. | ||
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Oh damn, that many? | |
| Big shout out. | ||
| Dude, he did 3,500. | ||
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Well, no, no, no. | |
| I know. | ||
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
| No, I'm just saying the Orpheum, when I was there for Eddie, I didn't know it sat that many people. | ||
| Pretty sure. | ||
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Maybe because we were down on the front. | |
| How many? | ||
| 3,500? | ||
| I think it's, no, no, no, 19. I think it's 18 or 19. Something like that. | ||
| I thought maybe it was 1,000. | ||
| Oh wow, bigger than I thought. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| It's a beautiful theater, man. | ||
| That's one of those places where you look at it and you go, wow. | ||
| When Steve first asked me to do EBIs there, because we were doing them at the Florentine Gardens initially in Hollywood, I looked at the website and I'm like, oh man, this guy doesn't, he obviously doesn't know what jiu-jitsu is. | ||
| Like, this is too classy for jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Like, we're dirty motherfuckers. | ||
| So I just turned it down. | ||
| And then he, again, he said, just come down and check it out. | ||
| And I'm like, okay. | ||
| I went down and checked it out. | ||
| I'm like, dude, this is like, you do like the Oscars and shit here. | ||
| You know, why would you want jujitsu? | ||
| But he's so into jujitsu. | ||
| The guy that owns Orpheum, he's, dude, man, he's doing privates with Compella. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| And he's so, he competes. | ||
| He's 65 and he's competing. | ||
| He's a strong motherfucker. | ||
| He's such an awesome guy. | ||
| And he, dude, when we show up, he's got his EBI shirt on, he's got his 10th Planet shirt on. | ||
| The guy who owns that whole fucking thing loves EBI. He seemed like it when I talked to him. | ||
| He's a super fan. | ||
| So when they brought to me the options of places to go, that was one of the first ones. | ||
| I was like, yeah, I love that place. | ||
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Did you want to be in LA, Joe? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's 1987. Goddamn. | ||
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That's way bigger. | |
| When is that New Year's Eve? | ||
| What date does that fall on? | ||
| On a Thursday? | ||
| I think it's Saturday. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| Is it Saturday, Jamie? | ||
| Yeah, it's Saturday night. | ||
| New Year's Eve is on a Saturday night? | ||
| Yeah, because there's a UFC on Friday. | ||
| Because UFC didn't want to compete with New Year's Eve. | ||
| So that's the Ronda Rousey-Amanda Nunes fight. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And Max Holloway and Pettis. | ||
|
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No, that's not true. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
|
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That's next week. | |
| That's next week. | ||
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That's December 10th. | |
| Man, that is a short one point. | ||
| No, what's the other fight? | ||
| It's not Max Holloway. | ||
| When is that fight? | ||
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Max Holloway and Anthony Pest is December 10th. | |
| Right. | ||
| What is the other fight next week? | ||
| What is the other fight? | ||
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The other fight is Cowboy Cerrone and Matt Brown. | |
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Matt Brown. | ||
| See, I have those both in the same level of expectation. | ||
| I just don't have the energy. | ||
| I look at Pettis Holloway, and then I look at... | ||
| Look, I think... | ||
| Matt Brown is always death. | ||
| It's always destruction. | ||
| It's always hell. | ||
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They've also trained together. | |
| They've trained together at Muscle Farm. | ||
| How was that? | ||
| Do you know anything? | ||
| Give us the inside. | ||
|
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Whenever they tell me something, I don't know about it. | |
| Don't do that. | ||
| But listen, everybody knows I'm a big Matt Brown fan. | ||
|
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Cowboy's a killer. | |
| I'll tell you that. | ||
| Cowboy at 170 is a video game character. | ||
|
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Dude. | |
| He's a video game character. | ||
|
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He mercs people in training. | |
| He's a killer. | ||
| He mercs people. | ||
| He's doing something different now because he's not fucking his body up to make 155. We're seeing 100% Cowboy. | ||
| He's got so much don't give a fuck in him that to take a guy like that and extract all the water out of his body and drain him and deplete him, you deplete some of that spirit that makes him exceptional. | ||
| When that guy's healthy... | ||
| A lot of what he carries into the octagon with him is like this zest for life, and it comes out when he's fighting. | ||
| That gets depleted when your body's depleted. | ||
|
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Look at Conor. | |
| How good did Conor look at 55? | ||
| Insane. | ||
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That's where he should fight. | |
| I believe so, too. | ||
|
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It's like 70 is obviously way too much. | |
| He should have like, holy shit. | ||
| He should have Aldo come up to 55 for a let's just get this done fight. | ||
|
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Oh, Aldo said that. | |
| All he goes, let me beat the winner of Max and Pettis. | ||
| I'll win that belt. | ||
| Now I'm coming at 55. He should. | ||
| I'd love to watch that. | ||
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Well, but Conor can be like, what? | |
| I beat you in 19 seconds. | ||
| Let me rematch Nate, or I might fight Floyd. | ||
| But doesn't Jose have trouble losing that weight, too? | ||
| Doesn't he have a motherfucker of a time getting a 45? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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He'd be better at 55, too. | |
| This guy's got tits. | ||
| He's a cute robber. | ||
| Jose's had some real issues. | ||
|
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Big issues. | |
| Where the fuck is he from? | ||
|
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That whole camp. | |
| He looks tough. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Chiss now. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
|
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Oh, no, he didn't. | |
| He just walked right up that guy. | ||
|
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God. | |
| My new favorite fighter. | ||
| He's my favorite fighter. | ||
| Now when you said that, I go, he's going to be a star. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
|
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What is he? | |
| A fucking serious killer? | ||
| Conor McGregor. | ||
| Dude, he scares me. | ||
| That looks so legit. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He fucking scares me. | ||
| One of those countries. | ||
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Hey, what if he just gets knocked out and a vicious head kick in five seconds after that? | |
| I gotta sit on your lap for this dude. | ||
| Yeah, I'm scared. | ||
| Dude, look at him. | ||
| He's got some tits! | ||
| Look at this sociopath! | ||
| Meanwhile, then he goes to put his glove tap. | ||
| That's some bitch-ass shit. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| You can't do that after you do the other thing. | ||
|
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Definitely can't. | |
| Never bet against black. | ||
| Oh, he's gonna get lit up. | ||
| Powerful reincarnation of Michael Clark ducking. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
|
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He does look like him. | |
| Oh, good uppercut. | ||
|
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Oh, he's not fucking all out? | |
| He's already hurt. | ||
| He's already hurt. | ||
|
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You don't do a throat slash and not fucking come out of booming. | |
| What if he gets knocked out, though? | ||
| Then it's really embarrassing. | ||
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Then he will never do that ever again. | |
| He made his play. | ||
| I mean, it's a psychological good move, but it's kind of negated by the fist bump. | ||
| The fist bump brings the confidence level back up a solid 10%. | ||
| It sure does. | ||
| Well, Cannoneer has got to get over the fact the guy's face looks so intimidating. | ||
| And once he does, he's going to win. | ||
| Yeah, Brian, I don't think he's looking at his face anymore. | ||
| Now they touch gloves again. | ||
| There's a lot of unity going on here, a lot of brothership. | ||
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A lot of unity, dude. | |
| That's getting touched with the right hand. | ||
| That's going to favor Cannoneer. | ||
| Cote Lava keeps his hands down, guys. | ||
| It's about fundamentals. | ||
| I've always told you guys, it's about fundamentals. | ||
| I believe I've heard that from you before. | ||
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Thanks, buddy. | |
| That's something you really... | ||
| Look at this guy, he's an animal. | ||
| I do recreational boxing, and I'm a blue belt. | ||
| You know, my problem lately with MMA is that I've been watching too much Muay Thai. | ||
| I've been watching a ton of Muay Thai lately. | ||
| You're a stickler for technique. | ||
| Well, I just recognize there's another level to be achieved that you're seeing, especially with striking. | ||
| With a lot of guys, you're seeing a certain level of technique on a consistent basis because they have to concentrate on a lot of different things. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But it's hard when you have a few guys that have achieved this Rory McDonald sort of spectrum where they can kind of do everything really good at a very high level. | ||
| Like, you remember when Rory McDonald fought JT Torres and Metamoras? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| JT Torres is a very high-level jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| Rory hung in with him, almost got Kimura, didn't tap, almost got his arm broke, but ultimately went to a draw. | ||
| Watching him fight, what's his name, the really high-level French striker... | ||
|
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Tarek Safney. | |
| Tarek Safney. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| And he came out with a whole different style. | ||
| I was watching him. | ||
| He's from Belgium. | ||
| He's from Belgium. | ||
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But Joe, isn't that the evolution of the sport? | |
| Like Roy started MMA when he was 12. MMA! He didn't specialize in anything. | ||
| So you're gonna see, like you look at fucking homeboy, uh, uh, what's his name? | ||
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With the spikey hair, looks like, uh, Zach Morris. | |
| Yeah, Sage Northcutt. | ||
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He's also a kid who started. | |
| So you're gonna get this wave of guys who Well, Sage started with karate, and he's way more of a karate guy than he is a jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| It's not that he's not better at jiu-jitsu now. | ||
| I mean, he definitely showed that in his last fight, and he's submitted guys in the past. | ||
| He's just a young kid. | ||
| He's a freak, too. | ||
| He's genetically... | ||
| A fantastic athlete. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who's a young kid who's got a lot of life to learn. | ||
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Is he on the December 10th card against Mickey Gall? | |
| When the fuck is that? | ||
| Did you see him rip that apple in half? | ||
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That's a barn burner. | |
| When is that fight? | ||
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That's not that impressive, sorry. | |
| When is that fight? | ||
| No, that fight is somewhere else. | ||
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It's in December, I thought. | |
| Am I wrong? | ||
| Why do I feel like that fight is somewhere else? | ||
| Mickey Gall versus Sage Northcutt is a fun fight. | ||
| I feel like that fight is somewhere else. | ||
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Mickey Gall's a motherfucker, too. | |
| He gets a full guard pretty easily. | ||
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He's a motherfucker. | |
| He's a very good jiu-jitsu. | ||
| I think he's more talented than Sage Northcutt. | ||
| Oh, I think he's extremely talented, period. | ||
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And I love how he calls the guys out. | |
| He's a big kid, man. | ||
| Like, we've seen two real good fights from him, and of course one of them was against a guy. | ||
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Oh, there it is. | |
| There it is. | ||
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Saturday, the 17th, UFC Fight Night. | |
| Two cuties. | ||
| Van Zandt versus Michelle Watterson. | ||
| Two cuties. | ||
| Oh, boys, I'm not going to be here for that. | ||
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Alan Joban, too. | |
| How dare you, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
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You're out of favor. | |
| This is the problem with having family. | ||
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Where you going, man? | |
| Where you headed, sir? | ||
| Sometimes I wish I was going on vacation, man. | ||
| Didn't you just go? | ||
| I go on a lot of vacations, son. | ||
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I'm not mad at it, sir. | |
| I wish I could. | ||
| I'm in the I-just-want-to-live-life phase of my life. | ||
| I just want to experience things. | ||
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I'm not good at vacations yet. | |
| I want to go places. | ||
| I want to experience things. | ||
| I get better all the time. | ||
| You know what helps me? | ||
| Edibles. | ||
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Really? | |
| Holler at your boy? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Holler at your boy? | ||
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No. | |
| Holler at your boy? | ||
| If you can get them, you gotta, but, you know, there's certain places where you can get them. | ||
| Don't bring them, though. | ||
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They're pretty easy to get. | |
| Don't bring them. | ||
| Definitely not worth it. | ||
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I bring my vapor everywhere. | |
| Do you? | ||
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When we do live shit, I bring them everywhere. | |
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| I mean, TSA? We're homies. | ||
| Me and TSA are cool as fuck. | ||
| That's Brian. | ||
| Clear pass? | ||
| What's up? | ||
| In a few years, there's going to be places where they have these spots where you could vape up at the airport. | ||
| They have wine bars. | ||
| And right next to those, there'll be counselors. | ||
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Be a therapist? | |
| People go deep and just start fucking crying and thinking about their dad. | ||
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I just use it to calm down and turn my brain off. | |
| I don't do it during the day. | ||
| This dude is heavily muscled. | ||
| Which guy? | ||
| The white guy or the white guy? | ||
| They're the white fella. | ||
| Yeah, you're looking too much at the white guy. | ||
| Black guy's built better. | ||
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The black guy's jacked. | |
| Yeah, he's jacked. | ||
| They're both jacked as fuck. | ||
| Brad's like, the white guy. | ||
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The white guy's leaner. | |
| I can identify with him. | ||
| No, look, they're both jacked. | ||
| They're both jacked. | ||
| But that was a confused opening. | ||
| You gotta talk to that guy about strategy. | ||
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We really do. | |
| Don't ever walk up through the slash and then touch gloves. | ||
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That was all just for a place, sir. | |
| Let's touch gloves. | ||
| Let's be friends. | ||
| Well, unless you're the motherfucker of motherfuckers and it doesn't matter. | ||
| You come out and Conor McGregor run with a straight left and just put him away. | ||
| And it doesn't matter if you touch gloves with him. | ||
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I agree. | |
| Do you remember when Conor McGregor talked a freight train full of shit against Dennis Seaver and then beat his ass? | ||
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Beat his ass. | |
| But when they got into the octagon before the fight, he went to shake hands with Dennis Seaver and Dennis Seaver wouldn't put his hand on it. | ||
| He goes, fuck you. | ||
| And then he went out and murked him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can't do that to an old ass Dennis Seaver. | ||
| Dennis Seaver was in there like stiff as fuck, only had that spinning back heel kick in his wheelhouse. | ||
| I understand, but, you know... | ||
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Dennis Seaver's like, I'm from Germany, you fuck. | |
| We're not having this. | ||
| And then just got mollywomped in Boston. | ||
| The world is a better place because of Conor McGregor. | ||
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100%. | |
| How about he got his boxing license, Joe? | ||
| He has boxing license. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| Yeah, good for him. | ||
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Did you see what he said? | |
| Did you see Oscar De La Hoya drunk as fuck talking about Canelo Alvarez? | ||
| He was talking about Conor McGregor fighting Canelo Alvarez. | ||
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I love Oscar. | |
| Silver up, bud. | ||
| I'm a giant Oscar De La Hoya fan. | ||
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Me too. | |
| Super fan. | ||
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People forget how fucking talented the gold is. | |
| I saw his first pro fight at the forum. | ||
| Fuck the dude up in the first round. | ||
| When he lit up Julio Cesar Chavez, I said, I don't give a fuck what anybody says. | ||
| That boy's legit. | ||
| One of the greatest of all time. | ||
| I was torn. | ||
| I was torn. | ||
| I saw that closed circuit TV at the LA where the Clippers used to play. | ||
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What was that? | |
| Not the LA Forum, but the LA... The Great Western Forum? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It was the LA Arena, Los Angeles. | ||
| Fucking the Clippers Arena. | ||
| They had closed circuit. | ||
| Remember when they used to do that? | ||
| You'd go to an arena and watch the screens of the boxing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was a big Oscar fan, a big Julio Cesar Chavez fan. | ||
| I was torn. | ||
| I had to go with the one who was more Mexican. | ||
| Makes sense though. | ||
| You know what, the real Mexicans are like, Julio can't even speak English. | ||
| Listen to this for a second. | ||
| I'm going to tell you how legit Oscar De La Hoya is. | ||
| He fought Julio Cesar Chavez and Bernard Hopkins. | ||
| And Manny Pacquiao. | ||
| Yeah, and Manny Pacquiao. | ||
| But he went all the way the fuck up. | ||
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And Sugar Shane. | |
| And Sugar Shane. | ||
| It went all the way up to Bernard Hopkins. | ||
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What the fuck is that? | |
| Bernard Hopkins, who was the 175 pound world champion. | ||
| He went up to him. | ||
| What about his fight with Fernando Vargas? | ||
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A lot of shit. | |
| A lot of shit talked before that fight too. | ||
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Good looking dude too. | |
| Very good looking dude. | ||
| Hey, ask your boy. | ||
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Ask your boy. | |
| Hush, hush, hush. | ||
| I'm on all that. | ||
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Ask your boy Aubrey about Hush Hush up on all that. | |
| No, I'm just saying. | ||
| Hush Hush up on all that. | ||
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No, I'm not gonna say it! | |
| Don't mention specific names. | ||
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So what? | |
| Hey man. | ||
| Yeah, listen. | ||
| People have fun. | ||
| Let's protect Oscar. | ||
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I love Oscar. | |
| Dude. | ||
| I love Fernando Vargas. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| That guy's spun. | ||
| He's getting lit up. | ||
| He got punched and spun. | ||
| Bro, hard elbows on top. | ||
| Shouldn't have gotten taken. | ||
| This is a good fight right there. | ||
| You know, what's really cool about MMA is that you can't really be the very best at everything. | ||
| You could be the best at putting it all together for your specific body, the best at handling pressure in your division, but you can't be the best jujitsu guy, the best kickboxer, the best wrestler. | ||
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No. | |
| You don't have time. | ||
| There's so many super athletes out there. | ||
| It's almost impossible for one person to be the very best at everything. | ||
| That's one of the things that makes MMA so exciting, is because you see this collision of different strategies. | ||
| And you'll see one strategy work for a long time, and you go, hey, ground and pound is where it's at. | ||
| Remember when Vitor Belfort got up to 240 pounds? | ||
| Because that was the motherfucking Mark Coleman era. | ||
| Oh, you're talking about the phenom. | ||
| Mark Coleman was just tackling dudes and smashing their fucking faces, and everybody panicked. | ||
| Do you remember when you interviewed him? | ||
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He was so jacked. | |
| Joe interviewed him one time, and this was like literally 15, 16 years ago, and Joe interviewed him, and Mark goes, Joe goes, so what's your strategy? | ||
| And Mark goes, I'm going to beat the fucking shit out of him. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| He was drunk. | ||
| You got scared. | ||
| I did get scared. | ||
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He liked some beer. | |
| But I love Mark. | ||
| Mark and I have been friends for a long time. | ||
| So even though I was scared, I was reasonably sure he wasn't going to hurt me. | ||
| But he picked me up like a pillow. | ||
| Like I was a pillow. | ||
| And he spun me around in the air. | ||
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He did? | |
| Mark Coleman. | ||
| How long ago is this? | ||
| Hammered Mark Coleman. | ||
| How long ago? | ||
| Many a day. | ||
| Dude, he's so strong. | ||
| I remember you said to me, I said, Joe, you were stammering. | ||
| You go, hey man, I was fucking scared. | ||
| He's so strong. | ||
| I felt like I've never felt lighter. | ||
| I was like, there's gravity. | ||
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He goes, I'm gonna pick him up, throw him on the ground and beat the fucking shit out of him. | |
| Who was he gonna fight? | ||
| This is what he said. | ||
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He goes, I'm gonna take him down, I'm gonna ground and pound the fucking shit out of him. | |
| I was asking him about an upcoming fight. | ||
| Hey, you stammered. | ||
| You went, um, um, um. | ||
| I'll never forget when I met him, the first time I met him, it was after he got beat by Maury Smith. | ||
| And if you remember, he was supposed to crush Maury Smith. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The kickboxers coming. | ||
| And at that point, striking was useless. | ||
| At that point, striking was useless. | ||
| And Mark Coleman emerged after Hoist. | ||
| So here comes Maurice Smith, the striker. | ||
| He don't know any jiu-jitsu. | ||
| He don't know wrestling. | ||
| He's going to get fucked up. | ||
| But he beat him on cardio. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because remember, Mark Coleman kept taking him down. | ||
| And leg kicks. | ||
| He kept taking them down. | ||
| You gotta also give credit to Frank Shamrock. | ||
| Frank Shamrock worked a lot with Maury Smith before that fight. | ||
| One of the things they developed is a really good butterfly guard for Maury's. | ||
| Maury's kept elevating. | ||
| Mark's hips kept moving around a lot. | ||
| He had a very hard guard to pass. | ||
| Shout out to Frank Shamrock. | ||
| Right away? | ||
| Maury Smith? | ||
| What Maurice Smith had that most guys didn't have in the early days is you couldn't pass his guard. | ||
| He had a very good butterfly guard and he knew how to retain. | ||
| He used lockdown and shit back in the day. | ||
| So Mark Coleman kept taking him down at will, but he couldn't finish him off. | ||
| He didn't have an injury. | ||
| Here's another point. | ||
| I love Maurice Smith. | ||
| Here's another very important point. | ||
| If you are an outstanding world-class kickboxer like he is, the same principles of defense apply on the ground, with ground and pound. | ||
| It's harder to move your head backwards, but a guy like that is significantly harder to hit than a guy who's not used to taking punches in front of someone. | ||
| Not even if he freezes up. | ||
| So when he sees these big bombs coming, he's doing a lot of this, he's grabbing you, he's not going to sit there and... | ||
| Of course, there are guys that are overwhelming. | ||
| There's guys like, I keep bringing up Krokop vs. | ||
| Gonzaga. | ||
| The second fight, when Krokop got revenge, when he got on top of Gonzaga, I'm like, when you see a world-class striker drop elbows on your head from the guard, he doesn't need to be in the mount. | ||
| He doesn't need to be in side control. | ||
| Krokop just needs that amount of space, and he is opening your head like a fucking coconut. | ||
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He shattered my nose. | |
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was so impressed by that elbow he dropped on Gonzaga. | ||
| I'm like, see? | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| If you could get an Ernesto Hoost on top of you on your mount, do you know what kind of devastation that guy could do to you? | ||
| On top of that, didn't you say he was the strongest guy you'd ever... | ||
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By far. | |
| You know Mirko was supposed to fight Wanderlei soon in Ryzen? | ||
| Yeah, Wanderlei pulled out. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| I don't know why, but if Mirko was saying all kinds of crazy shit about him, he might get injured. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who the fuck knows? | ||
| Let me finish my Maurice Mark Coleman. | ||
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I would love to see the camp back then, by the way. | |
| Mark Coleman. | ||
| Hammer house. | ||
| Just bags. | ||
| Logs on your back, running up hills. | ||
| When Maury Smith fought Mark Coleman, his pre-fight footage was hidden running upstairs. | ||
| It was either that fight or his fight with Conan Silviero, but I remember him, he'd be interviewed, I'm Maury Smith, I've been kickboxing, I'm a world champion, and they'd show him running upstairs and shit in a football stadium. | ||
| That was his B-roll. | ||
| And that's how he beat Mark Coleman. | ||
| And he beat him on car. | ||
| Mark Coleman was fucking holding his knees. | ||
| He was like bent over. | ||
| And Maury Smith just started fucking kicking him and beating the shit out of his legs. | ||
| Let me tell you this. | ||
| Maury Smith was probably the first guy to ever talk shit in the middle of a world championship fight. | ||
| I was ringside for that. | ||
| This is back when I was the post-fight interviewer. | ||
| He was going, come on, Mark. | ||
| Grant and pound me, Mark. | ||
| Come on, Mark. | ||
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Damn. | |
| In between kicks. | ||
| Come on, Mark. | ||
| He's like, come on, Mark. | ||
| By the way, people forget, Maury Smith was every bit of 230 pounds. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Maury Smith was the first guy to incorporate high kick in a world championship fight when he fought Conan Silviera. | ||
| He fought Conan Silviera in World Extreme Cage Fighting. | ||
| Remember that shit? | ||
| Conan's a big dude. | ||
| That was back when John Peretti was the interviewer. | ||
| He was doing my job. | ||
| John Peretti. | ||
| Shout out to John Peretti. | ||
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Shout out to John. | |
| Controversial. | ||
| I love that guy's commentary. | ||
| I always loved his commentary. | ||
| John Peretti was the stunt coordinator. | ||
| He worked in stunts on Oz. | ||
| That guy sent me a fucking direct message on Twitter one day. | ||
| I know everybody gets busy, but I'm not shitting on him. | ||
| He sent me a direct message like, I always had respect for you. | ||
| I can't believe that you wouldn't have me on your podcast. | ||
| Who said that? | ||
| John Preddy. | ||
| So I sent him a Twitter message back. | ||
| I said, dude, I'd love to have you on my podcast. | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| Whoever said that is definitely incorrect. | ||
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Come on by, son. | |
| I was always a fan of John Preddy. | ||
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You never heard back? | |
| Never heard back from him. | ||
| But if I did hear back from him, but if he hears this, I got nothing but respect for John Peretti. | ||
| I enjoyed his commentary back in the day. | ||
| I thought he was fun and honest, and he knew the fuck, he knew a lot of shit about fighting. | ||
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God, dog, we gotta scrap here. | |
| Our boy's getting fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, he's getting tired. | ||
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The guy doing the throat slashing? | |
| Get worked! | ||
| Yeah, he's getting beat up. | ||
| He's getting beat up, taking some shots. | ||
| But like, John Paredes doesn't get the respect he deserves. | ||
| There was no one before him. | ||
| You have to understand, this guy was like literally one of the very first guys who was a high-level mixed martial artist, did jujitsu, kickbox, and was doing commentary for MMA. He was like one of the very first guys. | ||
| And they owned the show, that battle cage show or something. | ||
| Exactly, which had some great fucking fights. | ||
| Brought Hal Gracie to the world. | ||
| Why is he so controversy? | ||
| Why is he so comfortable? | ||
| He's very direct. | ||
| He was one of the first. | ||
| A lot of promoters have personalities and they're like, you've got to have a certain personality to deal with the fighters, the staff. | ||
| Man, it's fucking stressful. | ||
| But John spoke his mind. | ||
| John, I had many conversations with him on the set and that guy was not interested in being a diplomat or your friend. | ||
| He was just very direct and very honest and had the confidence. | ||
| By the way, built like a brick shithouse, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, we had good conversations back when I used to work for the UFC back in 97. I never got to know him well, you know? | ||
| And then I took a break, and then the UFC, they sold it, and then Peretti wasn't there anymore. | ||
| Keep your hands up, bro. | ||
| Nice back fist. | ||
| I like the back fist. | ||
| Back to the Mark Coleman thing. | ||
| I never finished the Mark Coleman thing. | ||
| Let Eddie Brado finish the Mark Coleman story. | ||
| So after all that... | ||
| Maurice Smith beats Mark Coleman. | ||
| I go to a UFC in Louisiana. | ||
| I meet Joe there. | ||
| Joe's doing backstage commentary. | ||
| I go down there with Ricky Rocket, drummer from Poison. | ||
| We're hanging out. | ||
| We're like, let's go see a UFC. It's in a small 3,000-seat arena. | ||
| Just a bunch of crazy motherfuckers in Kemper, Louisiana. | ||
| 1997, when Frank Shamrock... | ||
| Double-legged Igor Zinoviev and broke his calavicle, and that was the end of the fight. | ||
| That was when Mikey Burnett beat up fucking Eugenio Taddeo. | ||
| That's old school shit. | ||
| Most y'all don't remember that shit, but that's old school shit. | ||
| I was actually there live, met Joe. | ||
| Vito was there. | ||
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Remember, Vito had a white... | |
| Miami Vice. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| But he was all young and shit. | ||
| But anyways... | ||
| I ran into Mark Coleman. | ||
| That's when Eddie Bravo and I became friends. | ||
| I was like, look at Vitor. | ||
| He's on my fucking set of Miami Vice. | ||
| We were just cracking up. | ||
| That was pre-weed for me. | ||
| Yeah, he was like 19 years old. | ||
| Looked like a fucking buff ass. | ||
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Weed changed your life? | |
| Enrique Inglés. | ||
| But anyway, so I run into Mark Coleman at that show. | ||
| This is the end. | ||
| I promise. | ||
| We're ending. | ||
| All that shit was a setup. | ||
| I run into Mark Coleman. | ||
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All that shit's a setup. | |
| And I'm like grilling. | ||
| I'm like asking him all these questions. | ||
| I'm like, so this is after the Maurice Smith fight where he gasped. | ||
| I go, dude, I go, what are you going to do? | ||
| What did you learn from that fight? | ||
| He goes, what are you going to do different? | ||
| He goes, brother, look down on my feet. | ||
| I look down. | ||
| He had jogging shoes on that Nike. | ||
| He goes, I'm running, brother. | ||
| I'm running. | ||
| I'm running. | ||
| Increase his cardio. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| He goes, look at my shoes, dude. | ||
| I got tennis shoes on and we're at the UFC. I should be having some fucking boots on or something. | ||
| I got tennis shoes. | ||
| He's going to run sprints after the press conference. | ||
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I'll give you a recent story. | |
| It's not to shit on Mark Coleman. | ||
| I sat next to him at a live belt where I went to and he had some of the best stories of all time. | ||
| But he is a chatty Cathy. | ||
| I was listening to him tell stories. | ||
| I missed every single fight, man. | ||
| He's a great dude. | ||
| I had the best stories of all time. | ||
| Was he drunk? | ||
| Here's my advice in the fucking future. | ||
| You DVR the fights. | ||
| You go back and you watch them. | ||
| You enjoy time with one of the fucking Hall of Famers. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| No, I enjoyed my time. | ||
| You have an opportunity to sit right next to Mark Coleman while he's hammered. | ||
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He was the destroyer. | |
| He was the destroyer for a while, man. | ||
| And you should have been buying him beer and leaning your ear in his direction. | ||
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I did. | |
| That's what you should have been doing. | ||
| I did. | ||
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He wouldn't give me an itch either. | |
| I was squished in there like a motherfucker. | ||
| The fans bought him a Gillian drink. | ||
| I didn't have a chance to buy him a drink. | ||
| One drink after the other. | ||
| He blew up! | ||
| And then he kind of had a little downside. | ||
| But then he won that Pride fucking Grand Prix. | ||
| And he came back strong. | ||
| He was like, dude, he was fucking yoke as shit. | ||
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Remember how fucking crazy his body was? | |
| Mark Coleman and Pride. | ||
| Dude, he was like Lou Ferrigno. | ||
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He's a legend. | |
| He's had some surgeries lately. | ||
| I remember when he choked out Dan Henderson with that scarf hold. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| He had him like a side headlock scarf hold type situation. | ||
| I remember when he had- Not Dan Henderson, excuse me. | ||
| Dan Severn. | ||
| Did I say Henderson? | ||
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Dan Severn. | |
| I meant Dan Severn. | ||
| Dude, that was his shit. | ||
| Mark Coleman for a while, that was his shit. | ||
| I'm going to headlock you and fucking... | ||
| That's a legit move, by the way. | ||
| When you're that strong, and that's the last thing you said, hey, brother, let me tell you something. | ||
| Strength is a skill. | ||
| Strength is a skill. | ||
| He's strong, but that's a skilled move. | ||
| I know this. | ||
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It's true. | |
| It is, though. | ||
| I know a Brazilian doodop. | ||
| He would do that. | ||
| He's 175 pounds, and he was really good at just taking that side headlock and just fucking balancing and squeezing. | ||
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Oh, Shane Carr would have popped his head like a zit doing that. | |
| It's not just a strongman move. | ||
| It's actually a real move that people just don't explore. | ||
| But there's a guy named Duda, and he fucking tapped me with that shit. | ||
| 175 pounds, like a big dude. | ||
| Dude, I was very talented. | ||
| Hey, before I forget, what was the doodah? | ||
| There was a move from rubber guard. | ||
| It's a rubber guard move. | ||
| It's like in the rubber guard family. | ||
| After the show. | ||
| You're trying to get a zombie, but you can't. | ||
| It's halfway through, your hands through. | ||
| Right, I remember it. | ||
| And you just do a bicep crusher with your legs. | ||
| I remember it, but I don't remember how to do it. | ||
| This guy's getting crazy. | ||
| That guy has a whole system around her and there's nobody on the planet like that motherfucker with that shit. | ||
| I've never seen anybody from the guard setting up wrist fucking bicep smashers and flipping and rolling people. | ||
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We've seen about 30 seconds of the fight. | |
| What the fuck? | ||
| 38. About 38 seconds. | ||
| This one, people were giving a stand ovation. | ||
| It looked pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's always interesting when one guy gives the fucking... | ||
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Caboosh! | |
| Much better. | ||
| Good boxer, this guy. | ||
| The neck slice. | ||
| Yeah, he definitely was way more calm on his feet when he stood in front of him. | ||
| And it was like, well, you also realize this dude was kind of gassed out. | ||
| Got a little emotional before the fight. | ||
| You know, you're either a killer or you want everybody to think you're a killer. | ||
| Yeah, it's an act. | ||
| And the killers are like Fedor, who never did any of that stupid shit. | ||
| He never got emotional. | ||
| Look at Cain. | ||
| Look at Cain. | ||
| Cain Velasquez is my all-time favorite weigh-in face. | ||
| Because he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| You can talk all the shit if you want. | ||
| I'm not going to be a little nervous. | ||
| I'm going to have a full tank of gas, and I'm going to rain bombs down on you until it's all over, bitch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When does he fight next? | ||
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December 30th. | |
| He's fighting December 30th, but man, there was just some... | ||
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He needs surgery, though. | |
| What the fuck does he need surgery on? | ||
| I don't want to hear that. | ||
| It's like his 12th surgery since he's been in the UFC. But you can't say you've got a fight coming up and then afterwards you're going to get surgery. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Because that's a ridiculous thing to say. | ||
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That's the life they live, brother. | |
| I understand, but to say it publicly seems pretty ridiculous if there's insurance involved. | ||
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That's a good point. | |
| From a business move, but as a fan, you gotta appreciate the honesty. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| He goes, really? | ||
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I should have surgery? | |
| That's true, too. | ||
| But I want to beat this motherfucker so bad and get to the title shot, I'm going to wait and do it after. | ||
| Well, here's a good question. | ||
| Look at BJ looking good! | ||
| He does look very healthy. | ||
| He looks very lean. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Very lean. | ||
| Do you think that insurance should cover all of the injuries sustained during training, which of course all of them are? | ||
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Yes. | |
| 100%, right? | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
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They're worth $4 billion. | |
| So, is that the case right now? | ||
| Like, what does insurance cover now? | ||
| Does it only cover things that happen in a fight? | ||
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No, it covers... | |
| I'm almost positive you'd have to ask when you're UFC boys, but I'm pretty sure it covers when you're in training camp for that fight. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like a certain amount of weeks outside of training camp as you're preparing for the bout. | ||
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But if, let's say, I have nothing scheduled and I get hurt, it doesn't cover that. | |
| So if that's the case, then what he said was actually kind of gangster. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're right. | ||
| Very gangster. | ||
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Super gangster. | |
| Because he's already covered by insurance, and he's going to come in and say, look, I know I'm kind of injured here, but I'll deal with it and beat your ass. | ||
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Yep. | |
| How great is that? | ||
| That's pretty gangster. | ||
| Good old Mike Brown warming up. | ||
| Apparently, Frankie Edgar had a fucking pretty significant knee injury leading up to the fight with Jeremy Stephens. | ||
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Well, how about Verdum? | |
| They said he went into the fight against Travis Brown with a broken foot. | ||
| Meanwhile, he jumped and sidekicked him in the face. | ||
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And landed that shit like the Matrix. | |
| And wobbled that motherfucker. | ||
| First move of the fight, man. | ||
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So gangster, man. | |
| Well, fighting's hard enough, let alone with broken foot, neck. | ||
| Travis Brown had two crazy things happen to him in that fight. | ||
| There's that kick that he opens up with like, where the fuck is this coming from? | ||
| And then when Verdum threw that punch and hit his finger. | ||
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Remember? | |
| Oh, that's awesome. | ||
| Verdum threw this crazy... | ||
| He snapped his finger. | ||
| And you wouldn't have waited a second, right? | ||
| He's fair fucking game there. | ||
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He's like, hold on, I went, excuse me? | |
| I'm gonna kick you right in the face. | ||
| Oh, that's awful. | ||
| It's a weird thing, man, because if he says, excuse me, I'm done, it's over, my finger's broken, then they stop the fight, then you're correct to not attack him. | ||
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But he went, just give me a second, let me fix my finger. | |
| I mean, but here's the thing, I didn't want that fight to end right there, did you? | ||
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It's not about that. | |
| As a fighter, I want that fight to end. | ||
| But do you want to leave room for an emotional mistake in a time of duress? | ||
| Like that? | ||
| Where someone... | ||
| I do. | ||
| Like, UK, are you ready to go on? | ||
| He goes, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am. | ||
| And then jumps back in. | ||
| Like, there's moments where something can go wrong where you don't even realize, like, is there a malfunction in my glove? | ||
| Why is my finger bent sideways? | ||
| Hold on, hold on, what the fuck's going on? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There is moments, but where do you draw the line? | ||
| Where do you draw the line? | ||
| You take it back to Game of fucking Thrones. | ||
| That would let him fix that fucking thing. | ||
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But where do you draw the line? | |
| Ah shit, I'm gonna come around. | ||
| You're about to snap my arm. | ||
| No, I'll give you the answer. | ||
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The answer might be. | |
| It was like an eye poke. | ||
| The answer might be. | ||
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Because this is why I'm gonna shit on both of these. | |
| Oh damn, look at this. | ||
| The reason why that doesn't count is because it didn't happen from him going for a takedown against his cage. | ||
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It happened because Verdum threw a punch aimed at his hand and it broke his No, no, no. | |
| Travis had his hands up, and Verdum threw one of them crazy Chuck Liddell-style overhands, and it landed on the fingers. | ||
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Correct. | |
| It was a strike that broke his fingers. | ||
| Big difference. | ||
| Yes, you're right. | ||
| A function of that injury is, you could argue, is poor technique, right? | ||
| Not poor technique. | ||
| That might work with MMA or with boxing gloves, rather, or Muay Thai gloves, you know, to have your hands over there. | ||
| Sure, but you could say the same thing about a guy who's got his hands up. | ||
| But to have your hands open like this, and to have a kick coming at you and your hands open this way. | ||
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It also helps him, too. | |
| Or a punch, rather. | ||
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It also gives him advantages, too. | |
| Because it gives him some more space. | ||
| Let's see if we can see it. | ||
| Let's see if we can see it. | ||
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Talk to Jon Jones about having an open hand. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, that's offensively, though. | ||
| Let's look at the punch. | ||
| Good rebuttal. | ||
| I like that rebuttal. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
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But, at the same time, how often do you practice punching fingers? | |
| How often do you practice punching fingers in the gym? | ||
| Once a week or twice a week? | ||
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I don't practice snapping arms or knocking guys out either. | |
| Oh, you don't? | ||
| You don't practice arm bars? | ||
| You don't practice arm bars? | ||
| How could you not practice arm bars? | ||
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We don't practice snapping the actual arm. | |
| No, arm bars aren't snapping arms. | ||
| Guys, we're looking at this fight right here. | ||
| This is the punch that landed. | ||
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It's an offensive move by Verdun. | |
| But I can't fault anything Travis did. | ||
| That was a freak accident. | ||
| Because he's doing the right thing. | ||
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But Joe, that doesn't matter. | |
| As far as holding his hand up. | ||
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It doesn't matter. | |
| You're right. | ||
| No, listen, I agree with you. | ||
| Now, if he did it and his finger caught in his shorts and you're like, fuck, give him a second limb to figure out if he wants to continue. | ||
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Here's the question. | |
| - An offensive move, that damaged the finger. | ||
| - Breaking the finger is the same as breaking the face, breaking the oracle. - It's no different than breaking your arm, your shoulder, your neck, your head. - But we have some weird sort of distinction, right? | ||
| Which is why you can say timeout for that, but you can't say timeout if you get hit in the nose. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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Well, you can't if you're Verdum, because Verdum went, there's no fucking timeouts in one afternoon. | |
| Everyone's like, that's ridiculous! | ||
| Why is that ridiculous? | ||
| But it's not ridiculous. | ||
| And I brought that up in the post-fight interview. | ||
| I was really clear. | ||
| Like, you were well within your rights to go after him. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That was inside the rules. | ||
| But for the audience, and for let's just be cool about it, okay, your finger got caught. | ||
| I don't fucking want you to die. | ||
| But that's up to it. | ||
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There's millions of dollars on the line. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like, come on. | ||
| But hold on a second. | ||
| Teddy's got a good point, too. | ||
| It's like, the audience wants it to go on. | ||
| Like, we're like, we paid. | ||
| And it's not like... | ||
| It's like no big deal. | ||
| And for that one guy, it only makes sense for the guy that threw the punch. | ||
| That's the only guy that it makes sense. | ||
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He inflicted damage. | |
| Everybody else is like, come on, man. | ||
| He inflicted damage where he couldn't continue. | ||
| But nobody's trying to break fingers with punches. | ||
| If that was part of the sport, like, you've got to practice breaking fingers. | ||
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It's not illegal. | |
| It's not illegal. | ||
| Let me knock down some walls here. | ||
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It's not illegal. | |
| Give Joe Rogan the floor. | ||
| Let me knock down some walls here. | ||
| You're both right. | ||
| Yeah, it is absolutely... | ||
| Listen, it's absolutely... | ||
| One of the rules, I'm right. | ||
| Hold on! | ||
| End the fight! | ||
| It's absolutely an injury caused by someone executing a technique, but wouldn't you like the fight to keep going? | ||
| Stop the fight! | ||
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That doesn't matter! | |
| Would you like... | ||
| Stop the fight! | ||
| Would you like... | ||
| Cain Velasquez, or excuse me, Fabricio Verdum to win on technical knockout due to a finger break. | ||
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Joe, that doesn't matter. | |
| I agree. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Here's the answer. | ||
| I agree with you, but I'm not saying within the rules. | ||
| I'm saying, what do you want to see? | ||
| Let me knock some walls down. | ||
| Guys, let me walk... | ||
| Brian's going to knock some more walls. | ||
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Let me wrap this shit up. | |
| Let me wrap this shit up. | ||
| You gotta stop talking over each other. | ||
| It's brutal. | ||
| But I'm the wise one. | ||
| Let me wrap this up, guys. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let me cork it up. | ||
| Quote something from the Washington Post for us. | ||
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It's fair to say... | |
| Hold on, no. | ||
| It's fair to say... | ||
| It's fair to say you know it when you see it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And it's up to you. | ||
| There are certain things in life. | ||
| There's discretion. | ||
| Know it when you see it. | ||
| Leave it up to the fighters. | ||
| Leave it up to the ref. | ||
| You'll know it when you see it. | ||
| It's going to be a case-by-case basis. | ||
| I say, Brendan, you win. | ||
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Fucking boom! | |
| You win, Brendan. | ||
| Write that down, America. | ||
| Brian Callen just won. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Brian Callen just won. | ||
| He won, but Brendan won. | ||
| Look, there's just choices. | ||
| Every situation is different. | ||
| But also, you don't know what happened to your finger. | ||
| I mean, he just got cracked. | ||
| He doesn't know what happened. | ||
| He might have thought his finger, because it wasn't working right, was tied up in his glove. | ||
| He had a look at it. | ||
| I don't think Verdum is wrong. | ||
| I think Verdum's 100% right. | ||
| But I think there's a moment of confusion. | ||
| It's not like Travis got head kicked and was confused because he got almost knocked out. | ||
| I think when his finger was fucked up, he didn't necessarily know what was going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was split second. | ||
| I think whether or not that's true, I don't know. | ||
| Only he knows. | ||
| But I'm saying there's a total possibility. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| I'm sure you get your finger smashed. | ||
| Joe's the author mediator, right? | ||
| No, I'm just like... | ||
| Joe's right. | ||
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Joe's like, bro. | |
| I tried to look at the whole thing. | ||
| I tried to look at the whole thing. | ||
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Brother, I am. | |
| I'm saying, even if he was like, oh, shit, my finger's broke. | ||
| I'm not going to be like, damn, is that broke? | ||
| You all right, bro? | ||
| All right, let's keep going. | ||
| On the street, what would you do? | ||
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I broke your fucking finger. | |
| Here comes a head kick to finish it off. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because we have millions of dollars on the line here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not anger. | ||
| It's professional sports. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You're right, too. | ||
| Brendan wins. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Listen, here's the thing, man. | ||
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I don't want to argue with him. | |
| And then he said, oh, I broke your finger. | ||
| Hey, here's your coach. | ||
| I'm literally not even arguing with you because I see your point 100%. | ||
| I see what kind of guy you are, too, Brendan. | ||
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I see. | |
| But I also, as a person who's greedy, when I'm at home, I want to see them keep fighting. | ||
| I'm with you, Joe. | ||
| As a fan, you want to see them keep fighting. | ||
| Me, too. | ||
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What about Fabricio? | |
| You're right. | ||
| I'm greedy. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm a fan of Fabricio, and I would like to see him win, but there's a feeling that I get from someone winning by a broken finger that I don't like. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I like the feeling. | ||
| Fabricio won a clear decision. | ||
| He beat the shit out of him. | ||
| What's the problem, then? | ||
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No, no, there's no problem. | |
| What the fuck is the problem? | ||
| The problem was the loss. | ||
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Brendan's like, yeah, he won, but he should have won by broken finger. | |
| He should have won by broken finger. | ||
| Here's a better question. | ||
| Here's a better question, because it's an illegal move. | ||
| How much of an effect should an eye poke be? | ||
| Because I really feel like... | ||
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Changes the game. | |
| I think not only does it change the game, like Mitrione versus Travis Brown. | ||
| Here's a case where the foul went in Travis's favor. | ||
| When he poked Mitrione. | ||
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And stood by the commission, too. | |
| Yeah, stood by the commission. | ||
| And he did it twice. | ||
| It was two eye pokes. | ||
| And then Mitrione, who was winning the fight, then goes to losing the fight. | ||
| It's a significant factor. | ||
| One eye? | ||
| It's almost so significant that if you're marginally impaired from it, you might want to stop the fight. | ||
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I agree. | |
| How do you feel about... | ||
| So it's just crazy because in the moment, it's such a difficult, like, rational decision to make. | ||
| But if you're fucked up and you can barely see out of one eye, you're like, no, I want to keep going, I want to keep going. | ||
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Joe, you've been poked in the eye. | |
| It's terrible. | ||
| How long does it take before that bitch recovers? | ||
| It depends. | ||
| 20 minutes? | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Some guys never come back from it. | ||
| Ask Michael Binkley. | ||
| Well, that was a kick, I believe. | ||
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Still, I'm just saying his eye's fucked up. | |
| But yeah, any eye injury could be, like, semi-fucked. | ||
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When you get to scratch in the eye, is there a possibility that they're... | |
| They could design some kind of fighting goggle thing? | ||
| Is that a possibility? | ||
| We have to protect the eyes. | ||
| This is what I would say. | ||
| Too many eyes are getting poked. | ||
| The only way you could do it is if you came up with some sort of adhesive, like some crazy, crazy glue shit that you could stick this fucking thing to your face where it's impossible to pull it off. | ||
| And works with grappling. | ||
| Well, that was the only way. | ||
| It would have to literally almost be like cups that covered your eyes, but were glued into your head, and then afterwards they put some solvent on. | ||
| But then we would find out five years later that fucking people are dying from cancer or brain cancer. | ||
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Well, you know, four guys are soaking them in testosterone and shit in their eyes. | |
| Well, in Planet of the Apes, when they make you dirty, they used to have a chemical that they would make your costume dirty. | ||
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Did you read that in the movie? | |
| In Planet of the Apes, the movie with Mark Wahlberg. | ||
| No, they found the stuff that they used was a chemical that doesn't leave your lungs. | ||
| Hey, can we please, as all fellow MMA fans, can we actually watch this fight? | ||
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This is a fun fight. | |
| This is a dope fight. | ||
| Jorge Masvidal versus Jake the Juggerfuck. | ||
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He's pretty good, right? | |
| Fuck yes. | ||
| Oh, he's a killer. | ||
| He's slick. | ||
| Great boxer. | ||
| Great striker. | ||
| A little too short. | ||
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We gotta be honest. | |
| He was Kimbo style before Kimbo. | ||
| But I gotta tell you man, Jake Ellenberger, coming off of that KO of Matt Brown, like he was on the death's doorstop. | ||
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Dude, he had to beg for his job. | |
| He had to beg for his job. | ||
| He said, please just give me one more fight. | ||
| They go, okay, Matt Brown. | ||
| He was like, oh my god, I can't believe this. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| And he's like, I'll take it. | ||
| And he went out there and stopped Matt Brown in one round. | ||
| His manager went, come on Joe, give someone else. | ||
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And Joe said, fuck it then, you're cutting it. | |
| No, no, we'll take it. | ||
| We'll take it. | ||
| How do you know that happened? | ||
| How does that get out? | ||
| How does shit like that get out? | ||
| Let's just not say that. | ||
| Let's not say that. | ||
| By the way, the narrative just got significantly weakened by your interjection of gossip and innuendo. | ||
| What did you read that on the Washington Post? | ||
| Jake, the fucking juggernaut Ellenberger. | ||
| I got Ellenberger in this. | ||
| The UFC section of the Washington Post. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Come on, Jake. | ||
| I'm rooting for Jake. | ||
| All due respect to Masvidal, who's awesome. | ||
| I love Jake. | ||
| I love Jake. | ||
| Jake Ellenberg is a bowhunter. | ||
| There's going to be a left-wing MMA and then a right-wing MMA. And they're going to get into their personalities and their lives. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Right-wing is going to win. | ||
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Damn right. | |
| It's going to be a real problem. | ||
| Right-wing eats meat and does sports. | ||
| And all the guys who have money that win a lot are going to be right-wing. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
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Ellenberg doesn't support NAFTA. All rights can invade MMA. That would be hilarious. | |
| Masvidal is for the UN treaty of... | ||
| Masvidal had a hashtag, I'm with her, on his Twitter account for four hours. | ||
| We have screenshots. | ||
| And it's like Republicans against Democrats. | ||
| It's red and blue. | ||
| In the future. | ||
| Oh my god, it is red and blue. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Republicans against Democrats. | ||
| It has to be that way. | ||
| Jake has more power. | ||
| No, not Masvidal can crack, dude. | ||
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Masvidal will get knocked out if he plays this game with Jake. | |
| Oh, dude, I don't know, man. | ||
| Jake can knock him out on left hook, they play this game. | ||
| Masvidal can crack, dude. | ||
| He's the first guy to knock out Eve Edwards at MMA. True. | ||
| He head-kicked Eve Edwards back in... | ||
| Jake hits hard. | ||
| That was back in the Bodog fight. | ||
| I would have never pegged Masvidal for a Republican. | ||
| Oh, good left kick to the body. | ||
| Oh, right hand! | ||
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That hurt him. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, Masvidal's fucking him up. | ||
| Jake's in trouble. | ||
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Oh, he's in big trouble. | |
| Oh, it's over, son. | ||
| Oh, he's getting deep down. | ||
| Oh, that's it. | ||
| Oh, Herb Dean went the ass first. | ||
| He went ass towards him, hips towards him. | ||
| He was going to stop it. | ||
| The ass was the... | ||
| Stay down, Jake. | ||
| That's what he tells him. | ||
| He goes, when you see my ass... | ||
| You got this, Jake is tough. | ||
| You see Jake come back? | ||
| No, he's not coming back. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| Herb Dean doing a great job, not stopping it. | ||
| Herb Dean doing a great job not stopping it. | ||
| Jake is tough as shit. | ||
| Herb Dean made the ass move. | ||
| You lean your hips towards the guy. | ||
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When you see the ass, Masvidal is such a monster. | |
| Dude, that shows you how good Herb Dean is. | ||
| That shows you right there how good Herb Dean is. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| But Masvidal has got him pinned up against the cage. | ||
| Ellenberg has got to get some space. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You've got to circle left. | ||
| Circle left. | ||
| Don't let him box him back in. | ||
| Well, Jake still possesses that crazy fast twitch muscle fiber. | ||
| So if he can connect, he can crack you. | ||
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Well, the last thing to go is power. | |
| And Jake's always had power. | ||
| But when you get hurt, you always start reaching for that because you know you're not going to play a points game from here on out. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because you're diminished. | ||
| So you've got a few significant rounds in your chamber. | ||
| It's just a matter of how long it's going to take Jake Ellenberger right now to recover. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| If he's been trained with Kurson, I think he has for this fight. | ||
| I know he has for this fight, as a matter of fact. | ||
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He's been at Kings too, huh? | |
| Training with Nick Kurson is a big thing, man. | ||
| Nick Kurson, who's that Marv Marinovich disciple, that guy's a wizard, man. | ||
| He knows a fuckload about strength and conditioning and getting guys ready for fights, both physically and mentally. | ||
| And I think he helped Ellenberger a lot with giving him the confidence with being in that insane shape to get ready for Matt Brown. | ||
| There's no coach on the planet that can go, hey, you're going to get fucked up the first minute, and then we can work on that. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| Yeah. | ||
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There's no conditioning for that. | |
| Right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| That's the X Factor. | ||
| But it's also like Ellenberger is a real veteran now and he's experienced those disappointing defeats and those super highlight knockouts. | ||
| Like the Matt Brown fight, like the Jake Shields fight. | ||
| He's composed after taking that beating. | ||
| Look at how composed. | ||
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Ellenberger is super legit. | |
| And the best of all, Hillary loves him. | ||
| Do you know Ellen... | ||
| Oh, shut the fuck up. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| Do you know that Ellenberger knocked out Pele Landy with one punch? | ||
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Yes. | |
| That was back in the Disney before. | ||
| In Bellator, right? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
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I thought it was a Bellator fight night. | |
| Is that right? | ||
| And he took it on short notice. | ||
| Masvidal is such a good boxer, though. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
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Am I right on that, though? | |
| You might be right. | ||
| It was some... | ||
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Jake Ellenberger. | |
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Masvidal went with the wheel kick. | ||
| Left kick to the body. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh, Ellenberger slipped. | ||
| Oh, shake his toe! | ||
| He broke his foot! | ||
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His toe's stuck in the cage! | |
| You should let him recover! | ||
| What happened? | ||
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I think he broke his foot or ankle in the cage. | |
| What do you do at this point? | ||
| This is hilarious, guys. | ||
| We're seeing exactly what we saw. | ||
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Yeah, we are. | |
| We're seeing exactly what we're talking about. | ||
| Brendan's going to say, fuck him! | ||
| Is this fight stopped? | ||
| Is this fight stopped? | ||
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And Joe's going to say, hey, give the guy a little fucking chance! | |
| Well, I'm on both of your sides. | ||
| That's the problem, Eddie. | ||
| I haven't picked a side. | ||
| I'm on both of your sides. | ||
| I didn't say what my side was at this point. | ||
| Hold on, controversial. | ||
| I didn't say. | ||
| But what you did before when we were talking about the finger break. | ||
| I said, at this point, he was getting fucked up. | ||
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What did Jorge do? | |
| He was getting fucked up. | ||
| Hey, Jamie, give us some volume. | ||
| Let's find out what the hell happened here. | ||
| Here, Ellenberger. | ||
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Sprints like a psycho. | |
| He throws the kick, he slides in. | ||
| Toe goes BOOM! Oh my god, his foot went right into the cage. | ||
| I get it. | ||
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Look, it's stuck. | |
| I get it, I get it. | ||
| It snapped his foot. | ||
| What do you think now, Brendan? | ||
| Tell me what you think. | ||
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If I'm Masvidal, I wail away exactly like he did and win the fight exactly like he did. | |
| There's too much riding on it. | ||
| Dude, you're so fucking mean. | ||
| Okay, well the fight's over. | ||
| It is over? | ||
| The fight is over, yeah. | ||
| I see that's like a freak. | ||
| I thought these were your homeboys. | ||
| This is what I feel like. | ||
| This is my take on this. | ||
| This is a great fight, a fun fight that ended with a freak accident. | ||
| I think Masvidal got in some great shots. | ||
| Ellenberger looked like he was staying calm. | ||
| But if you had to go to a decision off of the injury, you had got to give it to Masvidal. | ||
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Yeah, 100%. | |
| Masvidal was putting it to him. | ||
| Masvidal had him in a lot of trouble. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Slides in. | ||
| His toe went right in there and then he snapped it. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh, he just snapped his toe backwards. | ||
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Are you going to change your stance now? | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| You're so ruthless. | ||
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As a fan, I hope it goes on. | |
| As a fighter, you murk him as fast as you can. | ||
| Well, hey, guys, let's look at it this way. | ||
| As people that love the sport, maybe we should redesign the bottom of the cage. | ||
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Yes. | |
| I'm down for that, but it's not his fault. | ||
| It's not his fault. | ||
| His foot got caught in the fence. | ||
| That's not part of the game. | ||
| It's not part of the game. | ||
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You move to the left and he fucking slides in and he gets his foot caught. | |
| No, he did a flying knee. | ||
| Let me ask you this, as a person who's fought in the octagon. | ||
| Is there an argument for extending the lip a little bit? | ||
| So instead of tucking it in like that, extending it up and putting it in part of the cage, you could only have to go up a few inches and it would remove the problem of the edge. | ||
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But you wouldn't be able to use that takedown offense of those guys against the cage? | |
| You can dig your heels into it. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| Well, that's kind of cheap too, isn't it? | ||
| Look at that body. | ||
| That caught him. | ||
| Well, that would help everybody then. | ||
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Everyone. | |
| Like having a little bit of... | ||
| Let's talk about that. | ||
| Having a little bit of fabric, pulled it through and up and connected to the cage. | ||
| That would be a good thing. | ||
| See, he slipped in there. | ||
| Oh my god, it's awful. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| Get your foot out. | ||
| Look, he's getting punched in the head and he's still trying to get his foot out. | ||
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I hope they don't cut him. | |
| Give him one more. | ||
| Give him one more, please. | ||
| 100%, man. | ||
| He just knocked out Matt Brown that he has this controversial injury. | ||
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We'll go say 100%. | |
| Here's the problem with the controversial injury. | ||
| Masvidal is the one who got robbed here. | ||
| Because Masvidal was putting it to him before that. | ||
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He still gets... | |
| He won, though. | ||
| He won, but still... | ||
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He'd be robbed if it was a draw. | |
| Like, oh, he's injured. | ||
| Both guys. | ||
| I feel like both guys... | ||
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Both are robbed. | |
| Got robbed a little bit. | ||
| I mean, Ellenberger got robbed of a potential for a comeback. | ||
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Correct. | |
| But justice was done because Masvidal, who was winning, and he still gets his win bonus and Jay got you. | ||
| It's not a happy justice. | ||
| It's not a justice that makes Whoville cheer and sing. | ||
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No, not at all. | |
| Whoville's not cheering. | ||
| Whoville's not cheering. | ||
| There'll be no singing. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Zero. | ||
| But yeah, I agree with that. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| When you and Eddie were going at it back and forth, I'm on both of your sides. | ||
| I'm coming from a fighter. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Finger break. | ||
| It's a break. | ||
| It's due to an attack. | ||
| Look, honestly, any time you feel like you maybe should stop the fight, you should stop the fight. | ||
| Like almost every time for something like that. | ||
| Should you let a guy go if he can't see at all out of his right eye? | ||
| There's 50 seconds left in the round. | ||
| 50 seconds. | ||
| It's for the title. | ||
| The guy's the champion. | ||
| He can't see. | ||
| He says he's fine. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Stop it, Brendan. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| It's a good question because sometimes guys go out and they win that fight. | ||
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Case by case. | |
| Case by case. | ||
| It's hard, man. | ||
| It is not easy. | ||
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It's a tough kick. | |
| It's not easy. | ||
| It's not fucking easy. | ||
| I'm saying as a fighter and you're in there and you know what the magnitude of that win will do for your career and get you to the next level and your punch guy goes, damn, dawg, you got me in the eye. | ||
| You're all about the winners. | ||
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You're like, what? | |
| No, no, Eddie. | ||
| You're a winner. | ||
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You're a fucking winner. | |
| Hey, don't insult him with that comment. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Look, you're right. | ||
| And that, you know, that might be part of the problem, right? | ||
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It's like a killer instinct in the man. | |
| Las Vidal looks like a different weight class. | ||
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I know what you're saying. | |
| Like, it's not just the ethics of winning or losing. | ||
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Because you're like, God, let me get out of here and get a win and fucking get out. | |
| No. | ||
| And get that bonus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that an issue? | ||
| Is win bonuses or win bonuses an issue? | ||
| And did they ever exist in boxing before MMA started adopting them? | ||
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Are they in boxing? | |
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't even watch boxing. | ||
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Boxing, that's not true. | |
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think they are. | ||
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No. | |
| I think boxers, they fight for a purse. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And it's a flat fee. | ||
| Typically a flat fee and then you got your pay-per-view bonus. | ||
| But is there an argument that win bonuses make the fights more exciting? | ||
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I don't know if you need them. | |
| Because people, I mean obviously they're aware of wind bonus, but no one's like, God, I've got to make this a siding and I'm going to go do this because hopefully I get the wind bonus. | ||
| Here's the real question. | ||
| Tony Ferguson does. | ||
| That's his style. | ||
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That's his style. | |
| He does. | ||
| He goes after it. | ||
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Hey Eddie, I hate to tell you, whether it was wind bonus or not, he's going to fight like that. | |
| That's Tony, that's in his blood. | ||
| Let me answer this question. | ||
| He trains like that. | ||
| He wants to get that money. | ||
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No, but he trains like that. | |
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| I've seen him train six hours straight. | ||
| You know when people say, oh, I train eight hours straight, I train seven hours, and you're like, okay, you're taking all these breaks. | ||
| I've seen that dude. | ||
| He was training all goddamn day in Big Bear in altitude. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Six hours? | ||
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Dude, hanging out with Tony Ferguson and Big Bear. | |
| Made me feel like a fucking little mouse. | ||
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He's fighting Khabib next, yeah? | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You know he's fighting Khabib next. | ||
| I'm like, holy shit. | ||
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Not only... | |
| You know he's fighting Khabib next. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| They thought it was going to be in Anaheim, but they were like, ah, we're good in Anaheim. | ||
| Remember, they pulled the pay-per-view from Anaheim? | ||
| Is it pulled? | ||
| 100%? | ||
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Yes, they canceled Anaheim. | |
| When did it get cancelled? | ||
| Today? | ||
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Two days ago. | |
| So is that official? | ||
| Tony and Khabib? | ||
| It was supposed to be on the Anaheim card, from my understanding. | ||
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I thought that was like a hoax. | |
| But that's the fight. | ||
| But that's the fight? | ||
| Yeah, that's the fight. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| It's either going to be that or Conor. | ||
| What a fight that's going to be. | ||
| Well, Conor wants to take some time off. | ||
| He's about to have his first child. | ||
| Totally get it. | ||
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Conor's fight is with WMU and Ari Emanuel. | |
| It's not with Tony Ferguson. | ||
| You keep saying that, and it sounds like a goddamn mantra. | ||
| It's like, Donald Trump, KKK. How good is that fight going to be? | ||
| Khabib and Tony? | ||
| Conor McGregor's real fight is with Ari Emanuel. | ||
| Because it's true, Joe. | ||
| Put it on a placard. | ||
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It's true, though. | |
| Whoa, Dan's got a dime piece for a wife. | ||
| Are you in the negotiation room? | ||
| Maybe they're in a good place. | ||
| Who's his girl? | ||
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Well, even if they're in a good place, that's the fight. | |
| You're a little bit of a gossiper. | ||
| You like it. | ||
| You enjoy it. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
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Hey, but is it not true? | |
| Robert De Niro? | ||
| Is that Robert De Niro? | ||
| Where does that come from? | ||
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Yeah, that's Robert De Niro. | |
| Good fellas. | ||
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Good fellas. | |
| A little bit. | ||
| Go get your shine box. | ||
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Go get your fucking shine box. | |
| That's a great scene. | ||
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Stabs him in the neck of the pen. | |
| It's a great scene. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| But I'm not wrong, because when Conor goes, and I also have some inside info, but when Conor goes, I need a portion of the company now. | ||
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I'm not fine if you give me that. | |
| Who's his battle with? | ||
| Tony Ferguson? | ||
| It could be. | ||
| They have no ownership of that. | ||
| They don't have control of that at all. | ||
| Well, here's why it's foolish to get a portion of the company. | ||
| Because he, by very nature of his dynamic being and presence, makes the pay-per-views that he's on spectacular. | ||
| He doesn't elevate the other pay-per-views. | ||
| So when he's there, is he saying, should he get a percentage of the pay-per-views? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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He does. | |
| He does. | ||
| Should he get a percentage of the company? | ||
| You would have to prove that you're making the company bigger. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| You're making yourself bigger, and he is, in my opinion, the most famous, but the fights that he draws for, he will get compensated for in an extraordinary manner. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| The idea of him being an owner of the entire company based on what he's able to do in his own individual pay-per-views, that would be foolhardy. | ||
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But what about marketing? | |
| I'm obviously not a businessman When they have like fucking Affleck and like he can be listening to the country Why did Anaheim get pulled? | ||
| Because he didn't have a fucking title fight. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That the UFC without gigantic stars like Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey or Jon Jones or Pettison Holloway, without the killers, nobody wants to watch. | ||
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Correct. | |
| True. | ||
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Correct. | |
| That's what's up. | ||
| You don't want to pay for pay-per-view. | ||
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Superstars make the company. | |
| Yeah, you can have some fights that are pay-per-view fights. | ||
| You can have some fights that are pay-per-view fights without world champions on it. | ||
| It is totally possible. | ||
| If you had a bunch of cowboy, Matt Brown-type fights on, and just a bunch of them, and none of them for the world title, you tell me you wouldn't watch? | ||
| You tell me you wouldn't watch Yoel Romero vs. | ||
| Luke Rockhold. | ||
| Not a draw. | ||
| I don't give a fuck! | ||
| I'm not talking to you, you goddamn communists! | ||
| Would you? | ||
| Or would you? | ||
| No, it's all socialism! | ||
| He's in unions and shit! | ||
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The guy admitted he's in the fucking union before the show! | |
| He's a left-wing! | ||
| He's a left-winger! | ||
| Black helicopters! | ||
| Black helicopters! | ||
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Goddamn black helicopters! | |
| And he knows what's up! | ||
| Infowars, baby. | ||
| Oh, Jordan Meehan vs. | ||
| Emile Meek. | ||
| That's a good fucking fight, man. | ||
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That's a fun fight. | |
| Tim Kennedy, Kelvin. | ||
| Jordan Meehan on Cyborg, the male Cyborg, in Strike Force, landed one of the most devastating fucking elbow combinations to put out Cyborg. | ||
| And Emile Meek is the guy who beat up Toquino. | ||
| He knocked out Toquino when he first got kicked out of the UFC. When Jusmar Pojarez got kicked out of the UFC, he fought this mad Viking, Emil Meek. | ||
| He beat the fuck out of him. | ||
| He KO'd him in the first round. | ||
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What's Takino doing? | |
| He keeps getting KO'd. | ||
| He keeps getting KO'd. | ||
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But is he ripping bitches' legs off in jiu-jitsu? | |
| He fought Gary Tonin in a straight-up jiu-jitsu match. | ||
| It went to a draw, but Gary Tonin was dominating. | ||
| Gary Tonin was attacking him way more than he was attacking him. | ||
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Dude, do you remember how scary Takino was? | |
| Yeah, but here's the thing, Gary Tonin is maybe 30 pounds lighter than him. | ||
| No bullshit. | ||
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Gary Tonin is best in the world. | |
| I'm just saying, as far as MMA, remember when Tokino was, when it was Paul Ahari's? | ||
| Motherfuckers were terrified. | ||
| You know why I was fascinated about that fight? | ||
| It was not just that Gary Tonin is a motherfucker, but that John Donaher and I had this conversation about the entrances. | ||
| That Toquino uses. | ||
| The entrances. | ||
| How he establishes the entrance into his techniques. | ||
| He has some pretty obvious entrances. | ||
| He's kind of basic in the way he approaches leg locks. | ||
| His take was that they would always be one step ahead of him and eventually the strength would run out. | ||
| You can see it coming so you can stop it. | ||
| That's how high level and sophisticated that whole Eddie Cummings Henzo's? | ||
| Well, John Donahue is a big part of it. | ||
| But there's also a ton of guys. | ||
| Dean Lister contributed to that in a big way because he came over there. | ||
| There's a lot of leg-locked knowledge that came out of there. | ||
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But even so, Gio still won EBI last night. | |
| I like the way you brought that down. | ||
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You did bring it back. | |
| Eddie Cummings is the most feared leglocker of all time. | ||
| Eddie Cummings is the most feared. | ||
| I think he's the best leglocker. | ||
| I call him Eddie Leglock Cummings. | ||
| Well, I do. | ||
| You should probably stop talking. | ||
| Well, you guys can shut up. | ||
| Just for a moment. | ||
| I'll wrap it up. | ||
| I'll bring it back. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Who's winning this fight? | ||
| Anybody have any idea? | ||
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I don't even know what fight it is. | |
| It's Cejudo Benavides coming up. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead, Eddie. | ||
| I've reffed most of Eddie Cummings' fights in EBI, and just me as just the jiu-jitsu guy, watching him right there on top of it. | ||
| I can't fucking believe it, man. | ||
| Eddie Cummings is just mowing through fucking everybody. | ||
| The whole Danaher crew, Gary Tonin, Gordon Ryan, they're fucking everybody up with those leg locks. | ||
| Man, they got a super sophisticated, highly complex leg lock system and, you know, once EBI came out, that's when it was exposed. | ||
| And me as a teacher, I thought, fuck, I thought I was already leg lock friendly enough. | ||
| I had a bunch of leg lock wizards all over the association. | ||
| They were everywhere. | ||
| I thought, I'm totally open to leg locks. | ||
| Me personally, I'm not heavy into heel hooks, but man, I love the fact that every class I have like three heel hook fucking just dudes that are obsessed with it. | ||
| But that wasn't enough. | ||
| Once EBI came out, I'm like, that wasn't enough. | ||
| Look with these guys. | ||
| When you obsess with leg locks in the system and every possibility and every counter, and the way Dana Hurst put that system together, man, I realized right away, I gotta get fucking mid-Evo with this shit. | ||
| So we did over the last couple years. | ||
| Do you feel like you're competing a little bit with John or anybody? | ||
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100%. | |
| I love that. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So there's an IBJJF crew, you know, like the people, the fans and the competitors. | ||
| There's the Danaher crew, and they're like Conor McGregor, you know, because Gordon Ryan's kind of outspoken, and, you know, he's like wearing a crown everywhere he goes, and Gary Tonin, he's like... | ||
| They were all super cool, man. | ||
| And then Eddie Cummings was like the coolest motherfucker ever. | ||
| They're very smart guys. | ||
| Eddie Cummings is like an astrophysicist, cool ass dude. | ||
| All those guys are awesome, man. | ||
| And what Danaher's done with that leg lock system, dude, he just so... | ||
| He took what Dean Lister showed him. | ||
| Dean Lister came down in the late 90s at Henzo School and dropped some heel hook knowledge on Danaher. | ||
| And Danaher just systemized that shit, blew it the fuck up. | ||
| And if you're not paying attention to the jiu-jitsu world and the sub-only movement, the Danaher death squad, Eddie Cummings... | ||
| Gordon Ryan, Gary Tonin, and even Gordon Ryan's brother, Nicky Ryan, they got this leg lock system that no one can fuck with. | ||
| They're mowing through everybody. | ||
| Artistry. | ||
| It's mowing through everybody. | ||
| That's like real artistry. | ||
| When did you feel like... | ||
| At what point when you were rolling jiu-jitsu did you feel like it became more art than sport in that you were improvising as you went along, in that everything was a reaction, everything was sort of predicated by your mindset, your mood of that day, what that person was doing? | ||
| It had nothing to do with the mood of the day that I could tell. | ||
| It had to do with reactions? | ||
| It just had to do with how many times can you do a movement and train your body. | ||
| Your body, whatever you do. | ||
| Whether it's jiu-jitsu, tennis, basketball, whatever you do, if you do it over and over and over again, if you're working in a factory and you got a job or you're doing something, the more you do it, whatever it is, putting this contraption here, you're going to be so fucking good at it, bam! | ||
| Your body will master anything you tell it to do a thousand times. | ||
| So it becomes a language you're fluent in that you know physically, that you know... | ||
| It's like any piano, guitar, building fucking blocks, factory working, whatever. | ||
| It's all about numbers. | ||
| It's just practice makes perfect. | ||
| The more you do it, your body will end up doing it magically, and you'd have to just kind of executive produce things, and your body just does it magically. | ||
| Tying your shoes. | ||
| Like playing violin. | ||
| When you're shredding on violin or piano or whatever... | ||
| Can you type, Brian? | ||
| Or type? | ||
| That shit, typing. | ||
| When you type, you're just sort of thinking. | ||
| Like now, I've been typing for so many years. | ||
| I'm not perfect at it. | ||
| I fuck up. | ||
| But when I type, when I'm in the groove, I'm just looking at the screen and thinking. | ||
| And then the words just start, my fingers start moving. | ||
| It's weird you say that because I was typing and my father said, Jesus Christ, you type fast. | ||
| And it didn't even dawn on me. | ||
| I was like, huh? | ||
| Well, that's what Dan Hurst done with the leg locks. | ||
| That's what they've done. | ||
| They've gotten a system down and they understand practice makes perfect. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they understand that... | ||
| Perfect practice makes perfect, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's even better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I love that about life. | ||
| I love that about the idea that you can master something that you do. | ||
| Well, you definitely can. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I mean, you get better at anything you put your time to. | ||
| Even if you don't get perfect, it's so worthwhile endeavoring down that road. | ||
| That's what you get. | ||
| The reaching for it is the whole lesson, right? | ||
| Yeah, you'll have milestones. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But through those milestones, the most important thing is you're just enjoying the process. | ||
| And then one day you wake up and you realize, whoa, look what I could do. | ||
| Are you always learning with jiu-jitsu or do you feel like you're kind of over it all day? | ||
| No, man. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Everybody learns forever. | ||
| What we're talking about right now, what Danaher has done with the leg lock system and what they've done with EBI just completely dominate. | ||
| That, bringing it back, the Gio Martinez win last night, he beat Eddie Cummings in the finals at EBI 10 last night. | ||
| I was just in Mexico City. | ||
| It was fucking nuts this morning. | ||
|
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When did you get back, Eddie? | |
| This morning? | ||
|
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Damn. | |
| Jet lag or no? | ||
| We're about to get turned up in Austin this weekend, me and you, buddy. | ||
| People think we hate each other, but we're commentating together. | ||
| People are just silly. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This conversation that happened at the beginning of this podcast when everybody went crazy, we're like the best friends. | ||
| We're just two of them. | ||
| I don't feel bad about it. | ||
| You guys don't feel bad about it. | ||
| I'm a little hurt. | ||
| Actually, do you know what I thought? | ||
| But here's that thing, man. | ||
| It's that thing that people have to understand. | ||
| You're allowed to disagree about shit and still be cool. | ||
| You could be both. | ||
| Well, not only that... | ||
| But you don't have to disagree with something and go, because you're a fucking retard. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Because you're a fucking douchebag. | ||
| The way I look at it is, Eddie wants to solve a problem, and Eddie... | ||
| Don't let's not get specific, because we're going to go deep into the rabbit hole. | ||
| I'm not doing that. | ||
| I'm not doing that. | ||
| I'm exhausted. | ||
| I'm not talking about that. | ||
| No, I'm not doing that. | ||
| Hold on, listen. | ||
| Everyone listen. | ||
| What I'm saying is that when somebody's passionate and cares about the world and wants the world to be a better place like he does, that's where it's coming from. | ||
|
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We're all on the same team. | |
| That's where, yeah. | ||
| So when you know that, when you know that he's genuinely a good person through his fucking core, which I know that about him, like... | ||
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We just have a different point of view. | |
| I've texted Eddie about my kids. | ||
| There's no way I'm going to look at Eddie as, like, I can't do that. | ||
| What have I said to you privately? | ||
| The bottom line is, this is the bottom line, is I think they are fucking us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, it's them. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| It's they are fucking us. | ||
| And you mean everyone, everyone's all the best. | ||
| That's like Jack and Jill shit. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Told you what you were getting into. | ||
|
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You fucked up. | |
| We were just trying to get out. | ||
|
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Listen, man, I've known him more than you've known him. | |
| You don't know fucking him, but I know him better than you know him. | ||
| I don't think you're fucking me. | ||
| I don't think you're fucking me. | ||
| So if I thought you were fucking me, I would hate you. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| I'm trying to convince you. | ||
| Brian Callen, how many times? | ||
|
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You're trying to get me on your side. | |
| Brian Callen, how many times you trained with Eddie Bravo? | ||
|
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Zero. | |
| You guys don't know? | ||
| He has an underground school, motherfucker. | ||
| Maybe I know him better than you, and I was trying to lead you out of the dark lands. | ||
| I take his online jiu-jitsu class, which is secret, double secret. | ||
| Eddie Bravo, how many times I trained with you? | ||
| Can you even put a number to it? | ||
| Ask Eddie. | ||
|
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Eddie, am I right on this? | |
| They're fucking him. | ||
| No, dude. | ||
| Eddie gives me private fucking underground cyber jiu-jitsu lessons. | ||
|
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Them are fucking him. | |
| When do you start working for Fox News? | ||
| God! | ||
| You'd make a great journalist. | ||
| You're out of line! | ||
|
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You're fucking out of line! | |
| That would be amazing. | ||
| CNN is out there. | ||
| Hire this dude. | ||
| This guy would fucking be your soldier. | ||
| He'd be right there in Tel Aviv just laying it down. | ||
| I have a message for Donald Trump. | ||
| I have a message for Donald Trump. | ||
| Donald, while you're in office, I want you to abandon the Republican Party and join the freak party. | ||
|
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There you go. | |
| We will let you do whatever you want. | ||
| Be whoever you are. | ||
| Let's just try to be nice to each other. | ||
| Let's cut the shit. | ||
|
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Get loose, man. | |
| Just cut loose, man. | ||
| Hey, if they offered you $100,000 a year, Brian Callen would you take it? | ||
| He's on it. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
|
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$100,000 a year. | |
| They're paying him. | ||
| They're writing the pilot as we speak. | ||
|
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They're paying him. | |
| Brendan's brother, one of my favorite people in the world, is sending me all kinds of articles on how fake the pizza gate is. | ||
|
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Hey, listen, let's not talk about Pizzagate, you fucker! | |
| I told you I know him! | ||
| Listen, a guy who gets really good at killing people, like jujitsu style, gets really good at playing games, gets really good at arguments, he doesn't want to get involved. | ||
| He's a killer. | ||
| He gave you an out, and you want to keep going, and you're like the little pesky fucker. | ||
| All I'm saying is, before the night's over, I need to know what Pizzagate is. | ||
|
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Not doing this! | |
| No! | ||
| Off camera. | ||
| Pizzagate. | ||
| Pizzagate. | ||
| Off camera. | ||
|
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Hashtag Pizzagate. | |
| And listen, you don't want to know. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| You don't want to know. | ||
| This is murder shit. | ||
| You'll get murdered if you talk about this shit. | ||
|
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This is an amazing fight coming up. | |
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| I'm trying to get murdered. | ||
| You know what I thought? | ||
| I thought, you know what? | ||
| I think the meaning of life is... | ||
|
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The meaning of life is... | |
| There's fucking scumbags everywhere. | ||
| Try to maneuver around them and try to keep your family. | ||
|
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But you can't. | |
| You can't stop all the scumbags. | ||
| You can't keep thinking about things. | ||
| Just think about MMA. Pizzagate is Mark Henry. | ||
| Pizzagate's a fucking pizza place. | ||
| I'm gonna end it with if you watch Conspiracy of Silence on YouTube before you get into Pizzagate. | ||
| First the Conspiracy of Silence, then get into Pizzagate and it all makes sense. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Fights. | ||
| But that's it done. | ||
| I like it. | ||
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Benavidez Cejudo. | |
| Amazing fight. | ||
| Two Mexicans. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| Brown on Brown. | ||
| They talked a lot of shit. | ||
| Talked a lot of shit. | ||
| Give me some volume, Jamie. | ||
| I work for the company. | ||
| A lot of shit. | ||
| I can get us brought back to YouTube. | ||
| Give me some volume. | ||
| I want to hear what's going on, man. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
|
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My prediction? | |
| Benavidez wins decision. | ||
| Give me a little more, Jamie. | ||
| Two short killers. | ||
| Short killers right here. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Henry's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| This is a good fight. | ||
|
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You want to bet, Eddie? | |
| Quick! | ||
| We want to bet? | ||
| A thousand dollars. | ||
|
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I got Joey Benavides. | |
| I got Joey Benavides, too. | ||
| I got 100%. | ||
| I have Joey Benavides. | ||
|
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| They are fucking swinging. | ||
|
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You're Eddie Bravo. | |
| Alright, how about dinner in Austin, for God's sakes? | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| So who don't crack it? | ||
|
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Well, not now. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, not now. | ||
| Oh! | ||
|
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No, I'm down. | |
| I'm down. | ||
| Dinner? | ||
| No, no, forget it now. | ||
| No, no, listen, boys. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Boys, please bet. | ||
| No. | ||
| Can I bet for somebody? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| You're betting for Andy. | ||
| What do you want, Joe? | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| Now you want to bet? | ||
| Now you want to bet? | ||
| I want Andy to bet. | ||
|
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I got Henry. | |
| I got Henry. | ||
| I'm just his backer. | ||
| I'm just his backer. | ||
| Okay, we're in. | ||
| We're in. | ||
| We got action. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| I just want everyone to know that I'm not betting on anybody, that I'm merely a backer for my friend. | ||
| Brennan, why do you have so much confidence in Eddie? | ||
| Henry's a friend of mine, so of course I'm going to go for him, man. | ||
| Sehudo's a friend of yours? | ||
|
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Because Joe's a friend of mine. | |
| Well, Joe Benavidez is a friend of mine as well. | ||
| I love Sehudo. | ||
| Oh, nut kick. | ||
| Hey, that's some honor right there. | ||
| Respect to that, right? | ||
| Nut kick's different. | ||
| But he understood the nut kick. | ||
| You're right, it's illegal, right? | ||
| Punches to the finger, not illegal. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| But he recognized it. | ||
| Correct. | ||
|
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Nut kick's a little different. | |
| That's a respect thing, man. | ||
| That's a bad thing when you see a guy know he kicked a dude in the nuts and then go after him. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's dead on. | ||
| That's a little bit, I'm gonna be honest, a little bit more taint than balls. | ||
|
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Still hurts, though. | |
| Still stinks. | ||
| That was a day. | ||
| Still stinks. | ||
| For sure. | ||
|
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I think it's the bottom of that sack. | |
| I'm not an apologist. | ||
| I'm not an ableist. | ||
| I'm not a nut-shot ableist. | ||
|
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Now, Eve Levine will let you get your ass whooped now. | |
| He's been known to let it go a little long. | ||
| Well, he's no Steve Mazzagatti, but yeah, he'll let you tap for a little bit. | ||
| Mazzagatti's horrifying. | ||
| I love Mazzagatti. | ||
| Mazzagatti's my favorite. | ||
| I love Mazzagatti. | ||
| Mazzagatti fights? | ||
| I'm joking. | ||
| Tell me when Mazzagatti's reffing. | ||
| I love you, buddy. | ||
| Mazzagatti, let anything happen. | ||
| Hey, Mazzagatti's fucking reffing. | ||
| Text me. | ||
| I'll fucking watch it anyway. | ||
| Horace was digging his fingers into Jake Shield's eyes and Mazzagatti just sat there. | ||
| All the best highlights are Mazzagotti fights. | ||
| You ever notice that? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Well, how about when Mazzagotti was reffing Brock Lesnar versus Frank Mir and Frank Mir almost separated his hips from his legs. | ||
|
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Tapping like, Tammy, hit him in the dick again. | |
| You gotta take a point. | ||
| You gotta take a point. | ||
| Eve's a no-nonsense. | ||
| All bullshit aside, joking around, I love Eve. | ||
| He's a no-nonsense guy. | ||
| If he thinks that that is two in a row, he will take a point. | ||
| And here's the argument, right? | ||
| If it was unintentional, should you take a point? | ||
| Well, here's the problem. | ||
| The damage done to Benavidez is legit as far as it diminishes him. | ||
| So that is worth more than a point on his potential performance. | ||
|
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Same with an eye poke. | |
| Eye poke's even worse. | ||
|
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I think eye poke right away should be a point taken away. | |
| I think you're 100% correct. | ||
| It changes the magnitude of the fight. | ||
| I agree with him 100%. | ||
| Eddie Bravo thinks that Brian Callen is a bar. | ||
| He's gotten so drunk, he's just holding his glass out. | ||
| To Brian Cowen, who's not even looking at him. | ||
| Brendan Schaub, who's a loving man. | ||
| You got a point, you got a point. | ||
| Hey, Brendan's like, he does my dog right there. | ||
| Okay, that's a little too much for a driver. | ||
| Hey man, you can't throw those kicks like that. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| If you're not disciplined enough, you can't throw the kicks. | ||
|
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Well no, they're moving targets, sir. | |
| This ain't Taekwondo in 10th grade. | ||
| I just say stuff, okay? | ||
| Those kids moved a little too. | ||
|
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Tiny bit. | |
| I'm just picturing guys named Chad with no fucking facial hair. | ||
|
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Chad just... | |
| Bouncing around, switches stances with no fucking plan. | ||
|
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Random colored belts. | |
| This fight is awesome, by the way. | ||
| So who knows walking him down, man? | ||
| So who knows pissed because his last fight obviously was Demetrius Johnson got annihilated. | ||
| He's also probably pissed because he's lost one point already in his first round. | ||
| So he's got to win significantly. | ||
| This round will be a draw because if he loses one point, he's been winning the whole fight. | ||
| Unless Benavidez does something strong in which he'll win it. | ||
| Oh, crap. | ||
| But you know what, man? | ||
| Sometimes when people take a point away, they automatically say, well, that guy is losing the fight now. | ||
| It's almost like a psychological thing. | ||
|
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The judges are tough, man. | |
| Some of them are not good. | ||
| Some of them are definitely not good. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| What did you think of the Tyron Woodley Wonderboy fight? | ||
| Have you watched that fight since then? | ||
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I called it a draw, sir. | |
| I think you're right. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
|
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Hey, Brian, what'd I say to you? | |
| Before they came out with the- But here's my thinking. | ||
| I think it's only a draw because we look at fights wrong. | ||
| I think Woodley won because he did way more damage. | ||
| Way more damage. | ||
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Knocked them down. | |
| Ended the fight. | ||
| How about that guillotine? | ||
| And he had moments of total dominance, like that first round when he got on top of him. | ||
| There was never a point where Wonderboy was running the fight. | ||
| Never. | ||
| So there should be a point aspect to that. | ||
|
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I agree with you. | |
| You're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| There's moments where maybe you land a jab, and he lands a leg kick, and what's better and what's worse? | ||
| And there's a debatable moment. | ||
| But when Woodley took him down and beat him up in the first round and smashed his nose open, that was a significant advantage. | ||
| What about the guillotine, son? | ||
| And the guillotine. | ||
|
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That was nasty. | |
| And how about the punches that led to the guillotine that had him hurt? | ||
|
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You almost had him finished. | |
| I thought he made a mistake going for the guillotine. | ||
| He probably did. | ||
| But who knows, man. | ||
| Yeah, you're probably right. | ||
| Let's watch this fight, you fucks. | ||
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No, but to Joe's point, he's right. | |
| You're right. | ||
| Woodley won the fight. | ||
| Like, in fight aspects, he won the fights. | ||
| You guys just heard about some shit that happened two weeks ago. | ||
| Eddie's right. | ||
| Eddie's right. | ||
| You're both right. | ||
| Brian Callen and Eddie Brown were the voice of reason. | ||
| Who would have fucking ever thought that? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
|
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These guys are 115 pounds. | |
| They weigh in at 125. They really weigh 130. They're amazing. | ||
|
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They're the best. | |
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| Joe, I mean, Brendan, goddammit. | ||
| You fucking giant. | ||
| Are they Nazis? | ||
| You have giant privilege. | ||
|
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The viewers would agree with me. | |
| The ratings make the difference. | ||
| You have white privilege, male privilege, and giant privilege. | ||
| You're a disgusting human being. | ||
| He's never had any bad varsity blues. | ||
| You have white privilege. | ||
| You have big dick privilege. | ||
| You have podcaster privilege. | ||
| He's got it all. | ||
|
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You're ridiculous. | |
| Son of a bitch. | ||
| And you have giant privilege. | ||
|
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You're ridiculous. | |
| He was on a marquee at the Laugh Factory with his son of a bitch. | ||
| He's like, hey, guys, thanks for all your ten years. | ||
| Move out of the way. | ||
| Son of a bitch. | ||
| Fucker. | ||
| There's going to be that one night, Brian, where you can't follow him. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You're going to go, you son of a bitch. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's figured out how to be funnier than me, you son of a bitch. | ||
| Bigger, stronger, funnier. | ||
| With your fat garden hose dangling out of the inside of your jeans. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| How about you tuck that thing in? | ||
| Tuck that bad boy in. | ||
| How about you hide it from the children? | ||
|
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What's wrong with your friends, Jamie? | |
| Put it away. | ||
|
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God damn it. | |
| Put the sock away. | ||
| Did you guys see the Roadrunner kill the rattlesnake? | ||
| I've shown everybody on my podcast this week. | ||
|
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No, I haven't seen it. | |
| Roadrunners fucking kill and eat rattlesnakes. | ||
|
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Fuck. | |
| Would you look at a roadrunner? | ||
|
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You're talking about the bird? | |
| The little tiny bird? | ||
| You look at a roadrunner and a rattlesnake, you would say, well, for sure the rattlesnakes are eating the roadrunners. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Roadrunners eat... | ||
| Watch this. | ||
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I would say the roadrunner runs from the rattlesnake. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| Incorrect. | ||
| The roadrunner's hunting it. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| It's literally hunting... | ||
| Look at that dinosaur. | ||
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It looks nothing like the dinosaur. | |
| Because they're up close. | ||
| When you're up close. | ||
| Look at this shit. | ||
| The roadrunner is so fast, he can hop away. | ||
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I didn't see shit. | |
| There's like camera tricks. | ||
| I don't see shit. | ||
| Bro, bro, bro, look. | ||
| It's right there. | ||
| You didn't see that? | ||
| This is- I looked it up after I saw this video. | ||
| It's a fact. | ||
| Roadrunners eat fucking safe. | ||
| Look at this shit! | ||
| He just bapped him by the face, and now look at this. | ||
| He smashes his head on the fucking rocks. | ||
| How gangster is this bird? | ||
|
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Dude, I got a new favorite animal. | |
| Look at this! | ||
| I got a new favorite animal. | ||
| Look at this! | ||
|
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Holy shit! | |
| He's just smashing that fucking head on the rocks. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Whip! | ||
|
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Boom! | |
| Dude, shout out to Roadrunners. | ||
| Dude. | ||
|
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He just murked that motherfucker! | |
| Damn! | ||
| He just beat Nurmagomedov that fucking snake on a rock! | ||
| He swallowed the whole fucking thing! | ||
|
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Damn! | |
| He swallowed the whole fucking thing! | ||
| Some would say he deep-throated that rattlesnake. | ||
| That's my favorite animal. | ||
| Guys, fights back on! | ||
| Shut the fuck up! | ||
|
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Fights back on. | |
| Goddammit! | ||
| Round two. | ||
|
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Look at that. | |
| Keep that. | ||
| Keep that. | ||
| Brian, go for it. | ||
| Keep that left. | ||
| Actually, that right hand. | ||
|
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That a boy. | |
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Cejudo's winging that right hand. | ||
|
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Cejudo looks pissed. | |
| I've never seen him fight with this much bad intentions. | ||
| Well, they worked alongside each other for a long time and talked a lot of shit to each other. | ||
| Well, Joe keeps swaying for that right hand counter. | ||
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Joe looks a little off tonight. | |
| Well, he's probably been tagged a few times in that first round. | ||
| You know, he's looking for that big right hand to get things back. | ||
| The reason I thought Joe would win this fight, and I'm not saying he's not going to, he does everything really well, and Cejudo does a few things great. | ||
| So I thought Joe would kind of edge it out with just mixing it up, but he's not doing that. | ||
| Well, Cejudo has nowhere near the level of experience, other than the Johnson fight. | ||
|
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He has seven fights. | |
| Yeah, I mean, and Benavidez has fought Johnson a couple of times. | ||
|
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That was when I was a goddamn Mighty Mouse. | |
| Cejudo is a tremendous athlete. | ||
|
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He marked both of these guys. | |
| Tremendous. | ||
|
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How bad did he knock out Joey Benavidez? | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, he crushed him. | ||
| You know, and then what he did to Cejudo was pretty goddamn impressive, too. | ||
|
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It was amazing, man. | |
| He took him down, too. | ||
| And the technical kicks, or knees rather, to the body, the Muay Thai from the clinch, it was perfect. | ||
|
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Did you hear what Mighty Mouse said before that fight? | |
| Well, he is an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling. | ||
| He went, there's 250 gold medalists. | ||
| There's one, you know, fucking world champion like this. | ||
| I think I'm like, fuck. | ||
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I was like, oh my god! | |
| So legit. | ||
| I love Mighty Mouse. | ||
| I've been singing Mighty Mouse's praises forever. | ||
|
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You have. | |
| He's not my pound for pound number one, but he's amazing. | ||
| He's been mine for the past few years. | ||
| Who's your pound for pound number one? | ||
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Jon Jones. | |
| Over Conor McGregor? | ||
| See, but you can't say that, but here's what I think. | ||
| When you look at Jon Jones, I think Jon Jones ultimately absolutely has the potential to be number one, but he's been too inactive, and the fight with Ovin St. Preux, although Ovin St. Preux, I feel, is a very good fighter, and it's a very tough fight. | ||
| If you look at who has beaten Ovin St. Preux, and how Jon Jones looked against him. | ||
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You can't go off his one fight. | |
| You're right, you can't entirely buy it, but as of late, he's been incredibly inactive. | ||
| I see a little- I see a little- Mighty Mouse has been not just- Hey, fuck face! | ||
| I'm talking over here! | ||
| Sorry, sorry, sorry. | ||
| When Mighty Mouse has been active, he's been spectacular. | ||
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He's been spectacular, but the thing is, is we've seen Mighty Mouse lose. | |
| We've never seen Jon Jones lose. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| God, you guys are missing a great fight. | ||
| You're right, but he's not fought. | ||
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And also, what Mighty Mouse is, he can make a mistake, get punched with the right hand. | |
| They're 125 pounds. | ||
| They keep on, keep on. | ||
| Jon Jones makes one mistake against Vitor. | ||
| The fight's over. | ||
| No, no, he fell. | ||
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Because of their weight classes, I don't have them pound for pound number one. | |
| That is a good argument, except for guys like John Lineker, who knocked guys out with one punch, and Mighty Mouse, who knocked out Benavidez with one punch. | ||
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Still different than 205-pound monsters. | |
| You're right. | ||
| It is a little bit different. | ||
| Have you forgotten about a guy named Anderson Silva? | ||
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Brian Callen coming in and fucking shut that shit down. | |
| What about him? | ||
| Best ever? | ||
| Right now. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Right now, it's entirely possible to make the case of either Fedor, Anderson Silva, or Mighty Mouse. | ||
| Or Verdum. | ||
| GSP? Maybe Verdum. | ||
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If he didn't lose his last. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Verdum's hard with a Stipe fight. | ||
| You can't put Verdum again. | ||
| The junior fight. | ||
| Anderson Silva, who finished everybody? | ||
| It's arguable that Verdum's the best heavyweight of all time. | ||
| You can make that argument. | ||
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I'm sorry, that's what I'm arguing. | |
| Not pound for pound. | ||
| Verdum, heavyweight. | ||
| Pound for pound, John, Mighty Mouse. | ||
| You can put Conor up there. | ||
| Conor's an argument. | ||
| Conor's an argument. | ||
| Is it just me? | ||
| I hear you keep saying Anderson. | ||
| I'm kind of on something else. | ||
| Don't you think he's the number one fighter of all time as far as finishing everybody? | ||
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No, I think John is. | |
| With style the way he did? | ||
| What are we talking about here? | ||
| You know I don't know shit about striking. | ||
| He beat up everybody. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| I don't know shit about striking, but I can visibly see Conor countering with his left hand. | ||
| I can see that, and I don't really see it with a lot of fighters. | ||
| I know I don't know shit, but is that... | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| Is he an amazing counter puncher? | ||
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100%, Eddie. | |
| Because I'm seeing as soon as someone throws, he goes BOOM! He's just waiting for that shot. | ||
| It's so clean. | ||
| It's so fast. | ||
| It's so obvious. | ||
| He's waiting for you. | ||
| As soon as you throw, he's going to fuck you up. | ||
| Well, what Connor has is this ability to slide back and counter with such incredible precision. | ||
| He's just got a beautiful precision, too. | ||
| The technique's perfect. | ||
| He plants it right on your chin. | ||
| He's super accurate. | ||
| He's so fast, you get surprised. | ||
| How do you get that good? | ||
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Don't you think his strength is, too, is he's... | |
| He has some sort of skill where he can predetermine what you're going to do. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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We've never really seen it. | |
| We've never really seen a guy like you. | ||
| A lot of understanding of striking and movement. | ||
| How do you get that good at countering? | ||
| If a guy comes to you and says, Joe, I'm going to dedicate my life to you. | ||
| I want you to turn me into the ultimate counter fighter. | ||
| I would say go to that fucking dude on his knees in front of Joseph Benavidez. | ||
| Go to Dwayne Ludwig. | ||
| He's all about the counters. | ||
| Dude, Dwayne Ludwig, how about the fuck he's get the fastest ever fucking KO of in the UFC from a counter? | ||
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And he fought out the Canadian. | |
| He had multiple colored hands. | ||
| Why can't I remember his name? | ||
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God, I can't remember his fucking name either. | |
| Does Joey have a twin brother? | ||
| What would you do? | ||
| Actual, not sending me to Dwayne Ludwig, but what would, like, a drill you would come up with that you would say, okay, you gotta do this shit every day. | ||
| Well, it would depend on where you're at, like, skill-wise. | ||
| Like, can you kick? | ||
| Can you punch? | ||
| Should you not even bother kicking? | ||
| How much time do we have to work with you? | ||
| Like, what are you gonna do? | ||
| Like, if you took a guy who had, like, almost no kicks whatsoever, you'd say, okay, let's forget the kicks. | ||
| What I want you to do is just check kicks. | ||
| We're going to work on punches. | ||
| Can you throw elbows? | ||
| I don't want you off balance throwing kicks. | ||
| There's a lot of different things you would think of, but when you see Connor's counters, his counters are so precise. | ||
| You only get that through that 10,000-hour principle. | ||
| I would say you have five years to work with someone. | ||
| You have five years. | ||
| They have to be obsessed and they have to be genetically gifted. | ||
| Because there's certain punchers, they just did not have that kind of snap to be counter guys. | ||
| Like a guy like Matt Hamill, who was a really powerful wrestler and a good puncher and a good striker ultimately later in his career. | ||
| He never had that BUTT! There's that fucking, there's that fucking SPAP! Damn, you said Matt Hamill. | ||
| But you know what I mean? | ||
| Matt Hamill's a tough guy. | ||
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That's such a good example. | |
| It's a good example because he's a tough guy and a strong, powerful wrestler. | ||
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But he was an explosive and didn't have that kind of accuracy. | |
| There's a bunch of guys you could say that you could put in that category who were like really powerful grapplers who just weren't the most lightning-like strikers. | ||
| There's a certain type of striking. | ||
| There's striking where you know that the guy has good technique and you know that the guy pretty much understands where to be and where not to be and when to be defensive and when to be offensive. | ||
| That's like a well-rounded striker. | ||
| And then there's guys like Roy Jones Jr. There's every now and then you have these freaks. | ||
| But Roy Jones Jr. was a weird one because Roy Jones Jr. abandoned all of the orthodoxy of boxing. | ||
| I mean, he kept his hands low. | ||
| He barely threw jabs. | ||
| He threw a leaping left hook instead. | ||
| And he had ridiculous speed and power to the point where nobody could fuck with it. | ||
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Dude, remember when he was coming out? | |
| For years and years. | ||
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Remember when he was in his prime? | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Fuck, he was so fucking good. | |
| Dude! | ||
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Did you watch the Kovalev-Andre Warden? | |
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
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Great fight, man. | |
| Terrible pay for you members. | ||
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I watched it again. | |
| I watched it again. | ||
| And I wanted to see if I was biased because I thought that Kovalev won and I still think he won. | ||
| Yeah, so do I. I don't think he won by much, and I think Andre Ward did a really good job of holding his own, but I just don't think there was enough convincing rounds where Ward won in the way that I think the rounds that Kovalev won. | ||
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I agree. | |
| So I was like, man, I was watching, I'm like, I feel like Kovalev definitely won, but it was close. | ||
| And then when Lenderman was like, oh, it's a complete blowout, I'm like, well, I don't agree with that. | ||
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I don't think Andre Ward won, but I don't think he got blown out. | |
| No, I think it was a one point for Kovalev. | ||
| And I think the reason why you could make that is because I think that Andre Ward sort of clawed his way back. | ||
| He won some rounds. | ||
| Like later in the fight, it seemed like he had got that jab established more. | ||
| He popped a couple real good jabs on him. | ||
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7 through 11 he was doing work. | |
| But he got dropped. | ||
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It was a 10-8 round, I think, in the second. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Second round. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, you could see a one-point fight for Kovalov. | ||
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He won the fight, though. | |
| But I just... | ||
| And I don't... | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It's a crazy fight. | ||
| But again, it depends entirely on how you score fights, too, right? | ||
| I mean, everybody has their own idea. | ||
| When you look at the numbers, though. | ||
| The numbers of significant punches and stuff like that favors Kovalov. | ||
| True. | ||
| But, Joe, your number one fighter is Mighty Mouse. | ||
| Number two is Anderson Silva? | ||
| Yeah, that's my number one and number two. | ||
| Because I judge him on what I see from him right now. | ||
| And when I see, like, I understand that he's fighting smaller guys. | ||
| I understand they don't have as much power. | ||
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Margin of error. | |
| I understand that. | ||
| The margin of error is different. | ||
| However, what I factor in is the greatness of movement. | ||
| And what I see in Mighty Mouse is pure efficiency. | ||
| I see crazy shit. | ||
| Like when he got Cejudo in the clinch and he's throwing these precision knees to the body that come with no wind-up. | ||
| Cejudo has no idea they're coming. | ||
| Mighty Mouse puts it on him. | ||
| I'm seeing the Mighty Mouse that saw Joseph Benavidez leaving his chin out there and caught him with one punch and KO'd him when the knock on him was that he wasn't a one-punch striker. | ||
| I saw him when he fought Hayoki where he dominated Hayoki for all five rounds and with a second to go. | ||
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He always catches him with You know who he don't include in Pound for Pound? | |
| Because he's not active enough? | ||
| Not McCruz. | ||
| But if you look at his record, it's ridiculous. | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
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But he's not active enough. | |
| That is a great point. | ||
| I'll tell you what, man. | ||
| Him and Cody No Love is going to be quite interesting. | ||
| Quite interesting. | ||
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Because Cody catches anyone that's going to sleep. | |
| He's my favorite fighter of that weight class by far. | ||
| And that's a good point, because what we're talking about is about guys who are really good at certain things. | ||
| Like, Cody Nolove is way better at striking than what you're seeing right now. | ||
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Joey's way better. | |
| He's the Chuck Liddell of that weight class. | ||
| He's the Chuck Liddell of 135. He does creepy, scary shit to people. | ||
| Like, when he murked Thomas Almeida with that combination, his striking is like, these guys make no mistake about it. | ||
| Benavidez and Cejudo are both very good strikers. | ||
| Joey's winning this. | ||
| Joey's winning this. | ||
| I'm not sure you're right at all. | ||
| He's going to win this fight. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
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He's catching him. | |
| We do this every time. | ||
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Brian's been watching it. | |
| We've been talking. | ||
| The thing is, though, is with Don McCruise and Garbrandt, Don McCruise isn't a knockout. | ||
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He's far from it. | |
| So he might land 30 punches. | ||
| Garbrandt needs one in 25 minutes. | ||
| But we've never seen Garbrandt four and five rounds in. | ||
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Correct. | |
| It's going to be interesting because he's a very explosive guy. | ||
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It's such a fun fight, though. | |
| But he's never been a guy that shows any sort of a slowdown in his style. | ||
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I like it, man. | |
| Some people are upset that he got it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Oh, no, it's great. | ||
| The only person I feel bad for... | ||
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TJ got fucked. | |
| Yeah, I feel bad for TJ. And they went, oh, TJ, here's fucking Lineker, too. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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No title shot. | |
| Here's Lineker the monster. | ||
| Lineker's a scary dude. | ||
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Yeah, he's the scary... | |
| Yes. | ||
| He's got some creepy power in his hands, man. | ||
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Lineker Garbrandt's the motherfucking fight. | |
| Yeah, right? | ||
| And Lineker seems to have an iron chin, too, which is scary. | ||
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He fights scary, right? | |
| He fights... | ||
| He's a terrifying powerhouse, man. | ||
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See, I thought John Dotson beat him. | |
| Really? | ||
| Because Lineker was coming forward non-stop. | ||
| Had Dotson win that fight. | ||
| I'd have to go back and watch it again. | ||
| I remember seeing the decision thinking it was correct. | ||
| I'd have to go back and watch that again. | ||
| Who do you think won this fight? | ||
| We weren't paying attention. | ||
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I've been talking to you about pound for pound. | |
| I think Joey landed more strikes. | ||
| Clean strikes on his face. | ||
| That's what it looked like to me. | ||
| Might have. | ||
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And then you're going to have to pay his back. | |
| Because Cejudo kept throwing, but Joey was weathering the storm and not getting hit. | ||
| Not getting hurt. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like putting a little on the line. | ||
| I'm just a backer. | ||
| I like being in action. | ||
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I hear you, man. | |
| I really care who the horse is. | ||
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And then the main event, is anyone taking Tim Elliott? | |
| Not you, Rogan. | ||
| You guys aren't down to order pizza? | ||
| Right here, no. | ||
| I don't want pizza players to know where we are. | ||
| Pizza players? | ||
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I was like, what the fuck's a pizza player? | |
| How do you guys do it over here? | ||
| I can answer the door. | ||
| How would they know? | ||
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We could just say it's Brian T. No, you could do it next door and just have him text you. | |
| We'll probably be out of here by the time they come. | ||
| Listen, we have some protein bars. | ||
| You want a protein bar or something? | ||
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It's just as good as pizza. | |
| You want a protein bar? | ||
| Pizza would be nice, though, Joe. | ||
| Get something to eat afterwards. | ||
| You know what? | ||
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Fuck pizza. | |
| You gotta do a set, right, Joe? | ||
| Pizza is part of the Agenda 21. Store. | ||
| I'm at the store tonight. | ||
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He's always there. | |
| Putting together my new hour. | ||
| Love it. | ||
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Brian and I are there tomorrow night. | |
| I have to. | ||
| I abandoned my hour to do the Netflix special. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| I'm talking about myself. | ||
| Is that okay? | ||
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Can I do that? | |
| I'm piggybacking this stuff. | ||
| Relax. | ||
| I'm over on this side now. | ||
| I just can't believe you guys are here. | ||
| He pushed the mic away. | ||
| Pizza. | ||
| He pushed the mic away. | ||
| You won't even let people talk about themselves. | ||
| Try to tell people some shit that's happening tonight. | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| And you're like, but what about us? | ||
| Oh, we're somewhere soon. | ||
| He pushed the mic away. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| I've never seen him do that. | ||
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I don't like him talking about a special. | |
| It's a new hour. | ||
| The two of you guys together, you fight over each other so much. | ||
| You come here, you put it on us. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Now we're all about that. | ||
| We're not about that. | ||
| You guys are about harmony? | ||
| Here's the difference between Eddie Bravo and I. We get high when you guys aren't around. | ||
| When you guys are together, you're not getting high. | ||
| Oh, and he wins! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I mean, Joey wins. | ||
| You owe me $500. | ||
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No, you owe me $500. | |
| No, I thought I was... | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| God bless Joey. | ||
| I forgot who I was rooting for. | ||
| He won that fight. | ||
| Brian Cowen was aware and correct. | ||
| Let's see if people are booing. | ||
| Any boos? | ||
| Crank it. | ||
| Volume, please. | ||
| There shouldn't be boos. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
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Beautiful striking. | |
| It's hard to tell. | ||
| It's like two roadrunners fighting. | ||
| His style's changed since he's working with- Roadrunners kill rattlesnakes with their face, you fuck. | ||
| You do not pay attention. | ||
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So sexist. | |
| And Joey Benavides uses Bang Ludwig's technique. | ||
| His technique has changed and he looks amazing. | ||
| He looked very different in this fight than any of his other fights. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Totally different. | ||
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Just from the little I saw, it looked like he lost. | |
| Nope. | ||
| Yeah, I absolutely wasn't paying enough attention. | ||
| Plus, I have marijuana in my system, which impairs my judgment. | ||
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Yeah, me too. | |
| Joey crushed it. | ||
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I'm about three wines deep. | |
| God, good for him. | ||
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I eat this fudge thing. | |
| I'm just, I'm not the same. | ||
| Fat fudge, man. | ||
| This stuff is a shit. | ||
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It was nice. | |
| Paleo friendly. | ||
| It's really good for you. | ||
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Joe, you been back on paleo? | |
| Yeah, I only got off of it because I went on vacation. | ||
| I did it for the holidays, and I told you I had the worst headaches, brother, when I went back on. | ||
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I thought I was going to die. | |
| I do an abbreviated version where I allow myself to have some desserts and shit, but I don't go fucking full hog. | ||
| My body understands what's bad for it now. | ||
| It doesn't feel good anymore. | ||
| But if I make a grilled cheese sandwich for my kids... | ||
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God damn, that sounds nice. | |
| I love a grilled cheese sandwich with butter. | ||
| Do you butter the bread? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I butter the bread. | ||
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Of course you butter the bread. | |
| What kind of cheddar do you use? | ||
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I use a sharp cheddar. | |
| That's nice. | ||
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I use a sharp cheddar. | |
| I like a real sharp cheddar. | ||
| A lot of cheese. | ||
| I'll put a tomato slice in there too and mix it up. | ||
| I like that. | ||
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Yes, Joe Rogan. | |
| I like the tomato slice. | ||
| Tomato slice really should be standard. | ||
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I agree. | |
| It's fresh. | ||
| Like how the fuck does BLT get the tomato and the cheese sandwich? | ||
| It really should be standard because it makes it juicy. | ||
| You gotta use white bread because you're not eating anything nutritious. | ||
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Don't fucking give me weed or multigrain. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| Give me that old-fashioned wonder bread white boy. | ||
| But I wouldn't be mad at you if you made me a grilled cheese sandwich with Ezekiel bread and alfalfa sprouts and Gouda. | ||
| And some heirloom tomatoes. | ||
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Little tomato soup. | |
| And some grass-fed butter on the outside of the Ezekiel batter when you fry. | ||
| You fry in a cast iron pan, correct? | ||
| Because you're not a criminal. | ||
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No, you have to. | |
| I'm a goddamn American. | ||
| You're an American. | ||
| You're not a bad person. | ||
| You're not a bad person. | ||
| You're not doing this in a fucking George Foreman grill. | ||
| You're using a gun. | ||
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Damn, cast iron frying pan like a fucking pioneer! | |
| Dude, you make a grilled cheese or anything George Foreman, chicken, fuck you! | ||
| That shit ain't real. | ||
| I made a hundred chicken meals on a George Foreman grill all my life. | ||
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Me too, me too in college. | |
| I would grill the fuck out of them. | ||
| Those things... | ||
| Listen, honestly, it's a good way to do it. | ||
| You grill the top and the bottom at the same time. | ||
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That kind of tastes like shit, though. | |
| Compared to a grill. | ||
| But only if you get... | ||
| Most of the people eat on George Foreman grills. | ||
| You're not eating filet mignon. | ||
| You're getting shit cuts anyway because you're poor as fuck. | ||
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That's true. | |
| I was grilling skirt steak and shit in my... | ||
| George Foreman. | ||
| Meanwhile, Mexicans figured out how to make skirt steak one of my favorite steaks. | ||
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The best. | |
| They start fucking marinating this shit. | ||
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Damn right. | |
| Damn right. | ||
| Skirt steak is a shit. | ||
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It really is. | |
| Do you guys ever have an era in your 20s where you're not living at home and you're fucking broke as fuck and you have $17 and you gotta somehow make that last a week and you're like, okay, I got top ramen, a loaf of bread, macaroni and cheese. | ||
| I just call my dad's secretary, and I say, Dad, I need some fucking money. | ||
| And my dad would go, how much do you need? | ||
| Totally figures. | ||
| I go, well, I don't know, $500 or $1,000, and he'd send me two grand. | ||
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That's why you believe in Fox News, because you'd be sucking on the dick of the government. | |
| Listen, you guys will ultimately never be in my inner circle because you're poor. | ||
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We ever broke like that? | |
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| You're like, okay, $23. | ||
| We're going to the market. | ||
| Roll pennies. | ||
| We got it all. | ||
| I got a calculator at the fuck. | ||
| I'm 22 years old. | ||
| I'm like, I got, okay, three boxes of macaroni and cheese, a jar of peanut butter. | ||
| Loaf of bread. | ||
| Milk. | ||
| Four cans of tuna. | ||
| Damn, I could take that. | ||
| I could take that for four days. | ||
| It's all about survival. | ||
| It's about survival mode, man. | ||
| I grew up with a chef. | ||
| Survival. | ||
| When I was a kid, when I left my parents' house, ramen was big. | ||
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What age? | |
| Dude, top ramen? | ||
| 39 cents? | ||
| When I was real broke, at my brokest, I was like 1920 was my brokest. | ||
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Like going to college? | |
| Yeah, well, barely, man. | ||
| I was going to college, but even when I say I'm going to college, there should be like an asterisk next to that statement. | ||
| I was taking classes, but I wasn't even ever thinking I was going to get a job. | ||
| I just didn't want anybody thinking I was a loser. | ||
| And I'd run into people in my town, and they'd be like, what are you doing? | ||
| I'm like, oh, I'm taking a year off. | ||
| And they'd be like, oh, I'm a fucking loser. | ||
| So after a year, I'm like, I can't keep feeling that every time I talk to somebody. | ||
| I've got to go to school. | ||
| So I started going to college, but it was barely paying attention. | ||
| I was paying more attention because that was at the time that I was considering doing stand-up comedy. | ||
| I hadn't done it yet. | ||
| And when I started doing it, that's when I quit college. | ||
| But I was considering doing it, so it was really more paying attention to people and how weird we all are in this struggle between being a child and being an adult. | ||
| There's this weird transitionary period where people are feeling their oats and flexing their intellectual muscles. | ||
| In front of a teacher and trying to catch the teacher when it's wrong and trying to debate the teacher. | ||
| I was fascinated by that, man. | ||
| I was fascinated by that because when I was fighting especially, that was all when I was still competing. | ||
| I was always really interested in conflict, any kind of conflict, verbal conflict, physical conflict, games. | ||
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You embraced it, you're saying? | |
| I'm interested in it. | ||
| I'm curious as to what's going on here. | ||
| Like, why is this kid protesting what the teacher's saying? | ||
| Is he protesting because he's made a really solid assessment of the facts at hand and he finds a flaw in the logic? | ||
| Or is he trying to get attention? | ||
| Has he looked at it from, if he's had step 1 through 10 to really verify what your thoughts are? | ||
| Have you looked at 1 through 10? | ||
| Or did you go up to like 3 and you feel your oats and you think you're smart as fuck and you dive in? | ||
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Yes. | |
| So what I was more interested in when I was in college, honestly, was just people interacting with each other. | ||
| My favorite moment from college had to do with this Puerto Rican girl that I was trying to fuck. | ||
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Good for you. | |
| And I was in the lunchroom with this girl. | ||
| This girl kept inviting me to go to these things with her. | ||
| What kind of things? | ||
| These fucking retreats. | ||
| She was like, me and my friends. | ||
| She was in my Italian class. | ||
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Oh, she was trying to fuck, son. | |
| Dude, she was so hot. | ||
| You don't know that, Brandon. | ||
| She was so hot. | ||
| You jumped to conclusions. | ||
| Why do you jump to conclusions like that? | ||
| Please tell me the story. | ||
| She was thick, and she was juicy, and she had glasses. | ||
| And I knew she spoke Spanish. | ||
| I couldn't wait to hear it. | ||
| And I was like, it's just a matter of time. | ||
| Like, this girl's giving me all kinds of vibe, right? | ||
| Breaking her walls down. | ||
| We're going out in the Cape. | ||
| I would love if you'd come. | ||
| And I felt bad. | ||
| I didn't want to tell her that I was going to fight in a tournament. | ||
| What? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I was super insecure about it. | ||
| I thought I was an idiot. | ||
| I thought I had brain damage. | ||
| I was in college. | ||
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She would have jacked you off in history. | |
| No, probably not. | ||
| You'd be surprised. | ||
| It didn't sound even real to say. | ||
| Sound like a gimmick. | ||
| I'm going to go kick some dudes. | ||
| Anyway, I couldn't make it. | ||
| So she's like, we do them all the time. | ||
| I would love to have you come again. | ||
| I would love to come again. | ||
| And I'm like, fuck yeah! | ||
| I left that and it was like... | ||
| I was pumped. | ||
| I was like, damn, we're in. | ||
| So then I went back to school after the tournament. | ||
| I'm sitting in the lunchroom. | ||
| And ironically enough, it was a Trump airplane. | ||
| It was one of those Trump airlines. | ||
| You were on Trump Airlines? | ||
| No, listen to me. | ||
| I was at the lunchroom, and we were about to eat. | ||
| And the Trump airline that day, the fucking landing gear didn't come down, but the jet skid into the runway and splashed. | ||
| And they put fucking flame retardant foam all over the runway. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| I went down. | ||
| I sat down with these kids. | ||
| This Puerto Rican girl was so hot. | ||
| And all of her friends. | ||
| And I sat down with them at lunch and I said, did you guys hear about the jet that just crash landed? | ||
| It had this run. | ||
| And they were like, what happened? | ||
| And I said, apparently the front landing gear didn't engage, didn't lock down. | ||
| Trump Airlines. | ||
| But everybody's fine and nobody got hurt. | ||
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They go, oh, praise God, praise God, praise God. | |
| I went, oh, no. | ||
| And then I realized I was standing there over the table because they're all going, praise God, praise God. | ||
| I'm like, shit. | ||
| You were getting sucked into a religious. | ||
| So then I sat down with so much sadness, but also happy because I love conflict. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So I'm sitting down, I'm like this little demon that sits down at the table. | ||
| Back then, back then, no diplomacy. | ||
| Back then, a fucking laser beam. | ||
| Back then, not a diplomat. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| You didn't even know me then. | ||
| This was when I was 19. I knew you when you were 27. Yeah, when I was 19, I was straight feral. | ||
| So I sat down at this table, and they're going like, praise God. | ||
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What's feral mean? | |
| Wild. | ||
| My mother's a beautiful person, and my stepdad's a beautiful man, and I love them to death, but they worked. | ||
| And when people work, the kids are gone. | ||
| From whatever time, to when they get out of school, they're fucking wild. | ||
| Wild and loose in the streets and that's how I grew up. | ||
| Trying to make sense of the world and your own instincts. | ||
| I was a latchkey kid from a divorced family and I grew up hanging out with other kids. | ||
| And you develop these crazy... | ||
| And then I started fighting. | ||
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So no juicy Puerto Rican asked for you. | |
| So I was fighting. | ||
| So I had a very distorted version of things as it is. | ||
| So then I sat down and I said, so this thing that you wanted me to do when you were asking me to go hang out with your friends At the Cape, and I have like a big smile on my face. | ||
| I'm like, that was about Jesus, right? | ||
| And they were like, it's really important that you know Jesus. | ||
| I go, you know Jesus? | ||
| I go, you know Jesus? | ||
| And we had this really bizarre conversation. | ||
| She's like, Jesus is in my heart. | ||
| I go, did he tell you that's his name? | ||
| Did you get to know him? | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| And then she starts talking about the Bible. | ||
| Which Bible are we talking about? | ||
| We're talking about the Old Testament? | ||
| We're talking about the New Testament? | ||
| And we have this creepy fucking weirdo conversation. | ||
| Where I was just such a- And you knew you were never going to get- Game over. | ||
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You've never seen those cheeks. | |
| I wasn't- I was, at the time, like for me, I was as nice as I could have been while I was feral. | ||
| Because you liked her. | ||
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I'm sure she didn't talk to you after that. | |
| No, no, I was done. | ||
| I was like, look, I grew up around- I was in Catholic school in the first grade. | ||
| I grew up around crazy religious people. | ||
| By the time I was like in, you know, my high school days and past my high school days, I was like, I see what the fuck's going on. | ||
| Like, you're crazy. | ||
| You're not sucking me into this. | ||
| So I was just confused. | ||
| Here's my question to everybody at the table. | ||
| She was so hot, dude. | ||
| My experience has been really religious girls fuck immediately. | ||
| In my dating history, the girls have talked about their- There's a warmth to the way they approach you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They give in. | ||
| When they say they love the Lord, they will be sucking your cock. | ||
| That guy behind him, Matt motherfucking Hume. | ||
| That guy knows as much about MMA. Might be the best coach, eh? | ||
| Yeah, might be the best. | ||
| Him and Faraz Ahabi. | ||
| There's like him, Duke Rufus, Faraz Ahabi. | ||
| There's a few, yeah, Bang for striking for sure. | ||
| But as far as like overall MMA coaches... | ||
| Man, it's tough to not give the nod to Matt Hume. | ||
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Matt Hume or Firas are my number ones. | |
| Yeah, they're number one. | ||
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It's like the pound for pound talk. | |
| You can really rotate them out. | ||
| And a guy like GSP, obviously, he developed under the tutelage of Firas Ahabi, but he would have developed under the tutelage of Matt Hume too. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I think he would have if he could learn French. | ||
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Frost and GSP were boys, though. | |
| They grew up, so there's this bond and connection. | ||
| It's a big bond. | ||
| They're fighting for each other. | ||
| Now, if you're Tim Elliott, it's guns, bombs away, right? | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| What do you do? | ||
| It's bombs away. | ||
| You gotta go bombs away. | ||
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You think you just gotta go balls to the wall, Brunson style? | |
| Yeah, almost. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, almost like the only way to out-technique this guy. | ||
| Gio did it. | ||
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Well, any high-level guy, Elliot's lost to. | |
| Demetrius is like Geo beating Cummings, you know what I mean? | ||
| In a way, yeah, you're right. | ||
| Most people thought Cummings was, and rightfully so, he's mowing through everybody with his heel hooks. | ||
| Can Geo hang with that? | ||
| And he did, man. | ||
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Herb Dean looks bored as well. | |
| MMA is like Wednesday on the Mickey Mouse Club. | ||
| Wednesday is Anything Can Happen Day. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Wednesday we get loose Mickey Mouse. | ||
| That's what MMA is. | ||
| That's what MMA is. | ||
| As a sport, MMA is Anything Can Happen Day. | ||
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Not at this weight class. | |
| Bullshit. | ||
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I disagree with that. | |
| I disagree. | ||
| Well, you can disagree all day. | ||
| What's been the closest upset, Joe? | ||
| Those are little human beings. | ||
| What do you mean anything can happen can happen? | ||
| Because of the weight. | ||
| Explain that. | ||
| He just said anything can happen and you say I disagree. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because of the weight. | ||
|
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Because of the weight class. | |
| What can't happen because of the weight? | ||
| Guys can get KO'd, bro. | ||
|
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Because they're so light. | |
| Guys will get KO'd. | ||
| They do get KO'd. | ||
| Not maybe as often. | ||
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Not a lot. | |
| But they do. | ||
|
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Not a lot. | |
| Statistics are on my side. | ||
| He's a sizist. | ||
| But anything can happen. | ||
| A knockout can happen, though. | ||
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I like statistics. | |
| But a knockout can happen. | ||
| One punch dog out can't happen. | ||
| And the opposite end of the spectrum is a decision can happen. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So anything can happen. | ||
| Can I just stop this before this fight and say this is my favorite thing to do in my whole life? | ||
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I love these. | |
| The best. | ||
| I love this more than anything I do in my life. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| I woke up this morning crunk as fuck about it. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
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Me driving here, I'm like, I don't want to be late! | |
| Yes! | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| We must watch this because he's ready. | ||
| And again, here's the thing I'm saying. | ||
| I've been singing this dude's praises forever. | ||
| I don't think Mighty Mouse gets enough respect. | ||
| I don't think he gets the respect that he deserves. | ||
| Respect him, Brendan. | ||
| Respect him. | ||
| I said your name right, so you say his name right. | ||
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I love Mighty Mouse. | |
| He's going to murk this fucking guy. | ||
| But this is what I think. | ||
| Forget about all the weight and all that stuff. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You make some really good points. | ||
| But as far as an expression of martial arts talent, that's the finest I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| I don't give a fuck what he weighs. | ||
| As far as expression of martial arts talent, that's the finest I've ever seen. | ||
| So if Tim Elliott can beat him, which he absolutely can because it's Wednesday and Wednesdays. | ||
| Anything can happen today. | ||
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The Little Boys Club. | |
| You never know, bro. | ||
| You're most likely right. | ||
| You never know. | ||
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The odds are on my side. | |
| Dude, people get injured. | ||
| Weird shit happens. | ||
| Hands break. | ||
| Knees pop. | ||
| Backs go. | ||
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Watch what Mighty Mouse does this for. | |
| God, Mighty Mouse can move. | ||
| A guy zigs when he should have zagged. | ||
| Changes it up. | ||
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Oh, oh. | |
| Blocking. | ||
| Blocking. | ||
| Oh, listen, man. | ||
| Blocking. | ||
| You never know, man. | ||
| Elliot's doing some funky shit. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You never know, dude. | ||
| Weird shit happens. | ||
| The world is strange. | ||
| Strange move so quickly. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Mighty Mouse is not that strange. | ||
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Mighty Mouse is not that strange. | |
| Maybe it's because they're small. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Tim Elliott. | ||
| Good fucking shots from the bottom. | ||
| It's good scramble. | ||
| Good scramble. | ||
| Mighty Mouse looking for the arm bar. | ||
| Spinning. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| Left knee's got to get into play. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| Switches to triangle. | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| Damn, Tim Elliott got some high level jits. | ||
| Side control. | ||
| That's high level jits right there. | ||
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Fuck yeah. | |
| That's high level. | ||
| Because if you just did that to Demetrius, just get side control in top position, you're Yeah, look at this. | ||
| Already. | ||
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That's it. | |
| That's high level right there. | ||
| Look, he's on top half controlling him. | ||
|
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Can you imagine he submitted Mighty Mouse right now? | |
| I talked to all that shit. | ||
| Half guard here, holding on to the neck. | ||
| I like this position. | ||
|
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Look at that bass. | |
| Look at that bass. | ||
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Good bass. | |
| Good wrestler's bass. | ||
| But... | ||
| Mighty Mouse is throwing those legs up, but it's kind of loose. | ||
| Look at this bass. | ||
| Look at this bass and balance. | ||
| This is why MMA is beautiful, folks. | ||
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The beauty of all that. | |
| This is why MMA is beautiful. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Elliot with a good grip. | ||
| Oh, nice knee to the head. | ||
| Elliot is high-level grappler. | ||
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Guillotine! | |
| Elliot is high-level. | ||
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Please don't get submitted. | |
| Oh, no, he's passing. | ||
| Oh, yo, dude. | ||
| He's not necessarily passing. | ||
| It could be over. | ||
| Okay, it could. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
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Oh, shit, he rolled, son. | |
| He switched it to a darts. | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| Oh, he switched to the darts! | ||
| He's got it deep! | ||
| Dude, get out of here. | ||
| He's high level. | ||
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I was talking all that shit. | |
| I was trying to tell you. | ||
| I was trying to tell you it's over. | ||
| He's going to sleep. | ||
| He's going to sleep. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| He's going to sleep. | ||
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I was talking all that mess. | |
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| DJ's holding that thumb. | ||
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It's goddamn Demetrius Johnson. | |
| DJ's got a little space there. | ||
| He's got a little space. | ||
| See where he's using his thumbs? | ||
| That looks so deep. | ||
| That looks so deep. | ||
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It's very deep. | |
| It's very deep, but DJ's not going to prematurely tap. | ||
| And you see his right thumb? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| The fact that he got that deep so quick means that he knows it takes a while sometimes. | ||
| He knows it takes a while. | ||
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He's getting all fours. | |
| You've got to wear them down. | ||
| He knows that. | ||
| He's good now. | ||
| Oh, he's out! | ||
| Did you see that right there? | ||
| That's why Demetrius Johnson is so amazing. | ||
| Damn, look at he's on fire! | ||
| Look at Demetrius, he's on fire! | ||
| Holy shit, he's on fire! | ||
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He's supposed to be on fire! | |
| He's supposed to be on fire! | ||
| Look at him, he's going to try to submit to Melian now. | ||
| Demetrius Johnson answering back! | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He snapped in the neck. | ||
| He's going to try to go for that game. | ||
| He's going to spin to the back. | ||
| Johnson on top. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This is a fight, folks. | ||
| This is a fight. | ||
| That's remarkable. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| What if he gets him with the exact same technique? | ||
| That's remarkable. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| He's got an arm run under the neck. | ||
| Demetrius will get him in the same shit. | ||
| He'll get him with the same shit. | ||
| He might. | ||
| He looks like he's moving there. | ||
| He's moving there. | ||
| He's baiting him for the underhook on the left side. | ||
| There's so much game right there. | ||
| If he uses his left underhook. | ||
| You're just sprawled out and you've got a head or an arm. | ||
| Dude, you know the amount of game that's required? | ||
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You know what? | |
| Demetrius Johnson was like, how dare you? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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He's got it now. | |
| He's going for the underhook. | ||
| He can get him with the exact same technique if he punches that fucking right arm under. | ||
| Let's see if he punches that right arm under. | ||
| Nope, he doesn't even have it in the place. | ||
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Oh, look at this. | |
| Elliot back up. | ||
| Very nice. | ||
| Very nice. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Joe, I'll say this with the OSP John's talk. | |
| Look at that, though. | ||
| Good fucking movement there. | ||
| Good movement avoiding all those punches. | ||
| Even if he's tired. | ||
| That was good head movement there. | ||
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That's fine, man. | |
| That's fine. | ||
| No, dudes don't put hands on knees. | ||
| That's not fine. | ||
| That's not fine. | ||
| Unless you're fucking around and you want the dude to think you're tired. | ||
| Tell me who's fucked around like that. | ||
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Elliot's fucked around and it's worked. | |
| He's clipped him! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Elliot is not playing. | ||
| He's tired. | ||
| Look at him, he's tired as fuck! | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| He wasn't playing. | ||
| Let's not dwell on that. | ||
| He just knocked Mighty Mouth down. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Beautiful takedown! | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| Elliot is on top of the world at this division right now. | ||
| Elliot is winning. | ||
| He's got a rock in this round. | ||
| He's on top. | ||
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Like I said, anything can happen. | |
| Hey listen, it has nothing to do with whites. | ||
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Every day in MMA is Wednesday on the Mickey Mouse Club. | |
| Even in the little boys club. | ||
| Yup, you're right. | ||
| Now what's going on right here? | ||
| Top F, what's going on right here? | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| What's going on right here? | ||
| Demetrius Johnson, he's hurting here. | ||
| He just woke up. | ||
| Demetrius just woke up and said, what the fuck am I doing? | ||
| He's trying to get back up to his feet, but he's getting guillotined here. | ||
| He's got to be real careful with that left arm. | ||
| This is Elliot's shit, man. | ||
| He's really good at closing the show from here. | ||
| Ten seconds, ten seconds. | ||
| Oh, he pushed it off. | ||
| He pushed it off. | ||
| Very nice. | ||
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You gotta move John to number one now, Joe. | |
| That is oil. | ||
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You gotta move John to number one. | |
| Well, it depends on how this plays out, but I see your point now. | ||
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You've never seen John in trouble like this, ever. | |
| Oh, you have in the Gustafson fight. | ||
| He was in trouble in the Gustafson fight. | ||
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Not this big of trouble. | |
| No, not this big of trouble. | ||
| Not like this. | ||
| Not rocked. | ||
| No, but Vitor Belfort did catch him in an armbar. | ||
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And what did he do? | |
| Had him fully extended. | ||
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He said, oh, cool. | |
| My arm's been extended. | ||
| Gadoosh! | ||
| Here's the thing he didn't do. | ||
| He didn't tap, which was fucking substantial. | ||
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A lot of guys. | |
| Who's second on your list? | ||
| I know you like Jon Jones. | ||
| We know this. | ||
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Second is Connor Mighty Mouse. | |
| Mighty Mouse is probably like four or five for me because of his weight class. | ||
| He rose on your shit. | ||
| He rose. | ||
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That's hard to say, man. | |
| Because he was like seven or eight last time we did. | ||
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Never seven or eight. | |
| Never seven or eight. | ||
| Dude, he rose like a motherfucker and shit. | ||
| Hell yeah with those fucking counter lefts. | ||
| Here's what I think about top ten pound for pound. | ||
| Those kind of bricks where he's just waiting for you. | ||
| Who's going to take that shit? | ||
| Let me ask you if you guys agree with me. | ||
| This is how I feel about when you start talking about top ten pound for pound. | ||
| My feeling is that it's a fun debate. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And that the reality is you don't really know whether it's number one or number two or number three. | ||
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Because there's an argument for the girl cyborg. | |
| The girl cyborg? | ||
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Top five! | |
| Yeah, it's totally an argument. | ||
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Girl cyborg, top five. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| But you've got to look at longevity. | ||
| You've got to look at somebody who was on top for so long who beat up. | ||
| Like Anderson Silva did it all. | ||
| Look at this, man. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Tim Melviot went karate. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He went full sideways. | ||
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Dude, he's so relaxed. | |
| It's impressive. | ||
| Well, he dominated in several moments of that round. | ||
| But he was doing it in the first round, too, before he was really... | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| Is Tim tired is the question. | ||
| Oh, man, man, man. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| He's all relaxed. | ||
| Damn, look at him. | ||
| He's standing in front of him. | ||
| Man, wow, the more relaxed he can stay like that, if he can really avoid shots and turn things into a grappling machine again. | ||
| Can you imagine if a relaxed was racist? | ||
| Like, you know, athletic is racist. | ||
| You're like, he's so relaxed. | ||
| Dude, that's racist! | ||
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What are you saying, he's white? | |
| Because Mexicans are really relaxed. | ||
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Because he's white and he's relaxed. | |
| You see a Mexican guy? | ||
| You're stupid. | ||
| You see Henry Cejudo, you're like, he's so relaxed. | ||
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That's racist! | |
| What are you saying, he's lazy? | ||
| Yo, dude, people say that about me all the time. | ||
| If I call Tyron Wood, we'll be explosive. | ||
| What the fuck else am I supposed to do? | ||
| That's not racist! | ||
| Will you just look at him? | ||
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Can you imagine when smooth becomes racist? | |
| Dude, he's smooth. | ||
|
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Like, fuck you! | |
| Oh shit, look at Timothy. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| That's not a submission there. | ||
| Fucking smooth. | ||
| Fuck you, I'm not smooth. | ||
| What, I was born smooth? | ||
| Hey, man, you never know, man. | ||
| His elbow, you look where his bicep is in the ear, it's not going up, it's going down. | ||
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He's tired. | |
| You might not, but look at it. | ||
| See how his elbow, like, you look where his bicep placement is, his bicep is getting closer and closer to the other. | ||
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It doesn't matter because he's on the opposite side. | |
| You're right, he's in the wrong side. | ||
| But if a guy's really good at that empty half position... | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| Oh, Mighty Mouse takes it back. | ||
| Oh, Mighty Mouse can take it back like a motherfucker. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
|
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Mighty Mouse is no joke. | |
| This is some super technical shit. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| That was a nice knee. | ||
| Defensively and offensively. | ||
| Oh, he's got it in the neck. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| Let's see. | ||
| Elliot's going to wonder. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| Mighty Mouse. | ||
| Mighty Mouse. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| That's a little arm triangle. | ||
| That's a fucking chopping block right there. | ||
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Boom. | |
| That's a chopping block right there. | ||
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Elliott's not even ranked. | |
| What are you ranking at? | ||
| That's a good move right there. | ||
| If he doesn't win, top five. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| He's in a good position. | ||
| It keeps him from getting in that crucifix, fucking striking crucifix. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he needs his arm on the other side of his head for that. | ||
| He smashed him down with those. | ||
| And now let's see if he can pass. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| Elliott's left arm was on the other side of his head. | ||
| Ooh, that's Khabib shit. | ||
| That's Khabib. | ||
| He's looking for that. | ||
| That's salivary shit. | ||
| You can't put your arm on the other side because you're going to get fucked. | ||
| Oh, look, right there. | ||
| Right there, I'd go inverted arm bar right away. | ||
| Oh, yeah, look at this. | ||
| Look at that, right away. | ||
| He's always going for something. | ||
| Always, always. | ||
| Look at that, nice knee play by Elliot. | ||
| He got that knee into position. | ||
| Elliott is a high-level grappler, man. | ||
| You can see it, man. | ||
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Super high level. | |
| Dude, he's right there. | ||
| Look at all this shit that's going on right here. | ||
| It's not about the submission. | ||
| It's about the wars. | ||
| Dude, Elliott beat every champion and every weight class in his division. | ||
| The path of wars before the submission even comes out. | ||
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That's what's going on. | |
| That's what I mean. | ||
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Not every. | |
| There's so many wars going on. | ||
| Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. | ||
| Look at his arms on the other side. | ||
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That's a crucifix. | |
| He's gonna get out there. | ||
| But his left arm's fucked. | ||
| He needs to get his left hand on the other side of his head right there. | ||
| Once he's there, he's good. | ||
| He needs to keep it over there. | ||
| But not that much over there because then you give up a side choke. | ||
| That's my boy Juan right there. | ||
| You gotta be the master of keeping it. | ||
| It looks like he's gonna go for that Kimura. | ||
| He's trying to go for that inverted arm bar from the half guard. | ||
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Oh shit, he's got a good Kimura. | |
| That's one move that you really can get from the half guard, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Especially if you can step over. | ||
| Matt Hughes vs. | ||
| Joe Riggs. | ||
| It all depends on which Kimura you want. | ||
| If you want an inverted Kimura, you have to be in half guard. | ||
| If you want the regular Kimura, you could pass and be in side control. | ||
| But if you're gonna do that inverted one, you can't do it from side control. | ||
| You have to jump into half guard. | ||
| Frank Mayer was a master at that. | ||
| Yeah, it actually helps your position. | ||
| You have to hold him. | ||
| You're holding him in half guard. | ||
| That's really interesting. | ||
| That's the first time I've ever thought about that. | ||
| That's like maybe the one position. | ||
| No, Japanese necktie is the same thing. | ||
| Japanese necktie is the exact same thing. | ||
| You want to stay there. | ||
| Right, you need to let it. | ||
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Because it locks them down, right, Eddie? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| In the inverted arm bar, it's all about the angle. | ||
| So you know what? | ||
| I don't want to pass after all. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We're going to stay in half guard. | ||
| I don't even want to pass. | ||
| And even if I was passed, if I went for the inverted arm bar, I would jump in the half guard just to control the hips. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| DJ's taking his back. | ||
| No, he's not taking his back. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Elliot wins the position more. | ||
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Gee, DJ, go for the head kick. | |
| When he had his back standing up. | ||
| Elliot on top here, DJ, trying to control position. | ||
|
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It's one to one, by the way. | |
| Wow, this is crazy. | ||
| Elliot on top again. | ||
|
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This is crazy. | |
| Elliot got serious grapple. | ||
|
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Elliot got serious grapple. | |
| That's high level. | ||
| With the grease and the sweat, that makes it even harder to stay tight and stay controlled shit. | ||
| To keep position and keep dominant positions and all that grease and sweat and all that Vaseline all over your fucking eyes and all over your back and all over your fucking arms. | ||
| Keep talking, I'm taking my pants off. | ||
| Keep fucking talking. | ||
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Keep going. | |
| We said Vaseline, and I'm like, this party's live. | ||
| This party's live. | ||
| Impose your will on me. | ||
| Impose your will on me. | ||
| Give me some volume, young Jamie. | ||
| I want to hear some Matt Hume knowledge. | ||
| You had a sex story. | ||
| I did. | ||
| Volume. | ||
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First time he's lost around. | |
| That's music. | ||
| You don't shoot music. | ||
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I want to hear what he's saying. | |
| That's part of it. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Ah, fuck. | ||
| I want to hear Mad Hume advice. | ||
| Damn, look at him jumping around. | ||
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Damn, look at him. | |
| Look at that cardio. | ||
| That dude did sprints. | ||
| It's all about, you guys talking about rounds. | ||
| I did nine rounds. | ||
| I did seven rounds. | ||
| I did eight rounds. | ||
| I did nine rounds. | ||
| I did ten rounds. | ||
| I trained six rounds. | ||
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And when I train six, it's about fucking sprints. | |
| How many times do you run a sprint? | ||
| When are you doing a sprint? | ||
| Round three. | ||
| That's where the cardio's coming, not the rounds you're sparring in. | ||
| Round three. | ||
| That's not realistic. | ||
| It's the fucking sprint. | ||
| He changes up from southpaw to right. | ||
|
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Look at that. | |
| If this guy wins and Trump is president, America has gone crazy. | ||
|
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Is it their biggest upset in UFC history? | |
| Hey, listen. | ||
| America's gone crazy. | ||
| Did you vote for Hillary? | ||
| Callan? | ||
| I didn't. | ||
|
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No! | |
| My God! | ||
| No! | ||
| Not doing this fight! | ||
| No! | ||
| Not doing this fight! | ||
|
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No! | |
| Eddie, stop it! | ||
| We'll come back to it! | ||
|
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No, no! | |
| Tell me the truth! | ||
|
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No, no, no! | |
| Tell me the truth! | ||
|
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Eddie, please! | |
| You voted for Hillary! | ||
| Eddie, please! | ||
| Eddie, please! | ||
| Real quick! | ||
| Real quick! | ||
| Eddie, no! | ||
| Look! | ||
| It's a fight! | ||
| It's a fight! | ||
|
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Look at this! | |
| He's got his back! | ||
| He's got his back! | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| Stop! | ||
| Please stop! | ||
| Eddie, please! | ||
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Eddie, it's like you're a jiu-jitsu! | |
| Please, Eddie, stop. | ||
|
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Look at that, Eddie! | |
| Please! | ||
| Eddie, I'm joking. | ||
| I'm messing with you. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
|
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Look how he chopped the arm, son. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, he's covering his nose! | ||
|
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You're not allowed to do that, are you? | |
| Oh my god, that was close. | ||
| Oh shit, look at that. | ||
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Oh! | |
| He's got the neck. | ||
| He's got the neck. | ||
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Oh, it's out of the neck. | |
| Oh shit! | ||
| Oh, look at these guys. | ||
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I didn't watch one time. | |
| These guys think they're all jujits. | ||
| Look at his takedown, man. | ||
| Very nice takedown. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| These guys are going back. | ||
| He's turning it into a grappling match and he looks like he's getting the better of these positions. | ||
|
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Oh, he's owning him grappling. | |
| Dude. | ||
|
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Elliot. | |
| This is incredible. | ||
|
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Amazing. | |
| I wouldn't say that. | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| No, but look at this. | ||
| Elliot hangs on. | ||
| That's some jiu-jitsu and wrestling. | ||
| He rolled him and Elliot stayed on top the entire time. | ||
| This is incredible. | ||
| Look, he's got the leg. | ||
| He tripped him down. | ||
| He tripped him down. | ||
| Tim Elliot wrestled 100%. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| This is incredible. | ||
| Oh, look at this shit. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| Oh, he's getting lit up, man. | ||
| He's getting lit up. | ||
| This is third round? | ||
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I've never seen Johnson kind of like, God, what the hell do I do here? | |
| Damn, he must have been running sprints. | ||
| Elliot doesn't get tired. | ||
| He's a chimp. | ||
| He's a chimp. | ||
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He's so strong. | |
| Are you kidding? | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| That's a really good race. | ||
| No, it's white. | ||
| We're lucky he's white. | ||
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Elliot is so lucky he's white. | |
| Elliot, he's got simian strength. | ||
| I didn't say swim sprint. | ||
| I said regular sprint. | ||
| Swim, swim sprint is racist. | ||
| Shit doesn't work on Elliot. | ||
| Okay, but look at this. | ||
| Demetrius is on top. | ||
| He's got that right arm trapped. | ||
| Looking for that head and arm position. | ||
| Look at that past. | ||
| Oh, but not so... | ||
| Not totally past. | ||
| Not really past. | ||
| Oh, captured. | ||
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Not really past. | |
| Elliot looks like he's fueled on meth. | ||
| Not really past. | ||
| Because he's white and white trash? | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
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Those stats are off. | |
| Truck stuff? | ||
| The stereotype of white people getting their guard pass, I'm sick of it. | ||
| And I'm gonna fucking stand up, and right here on the Joe Rogan Experience, I'm not gonna stand for it, okay? | ||
| And I love Hillary, and we're not... | ||
| Tim Elliott in this fight, man. | ||
|
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White people, Mexicans get passed, what about that? | |
| Black people get passed. | ||
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What about that? | |
| Let's not get political. | ||
| I didn't like either one of those candidates. | ||
| Let's watch this fight. | ||
| No politics, Brian Callen. | ||
|
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Brian, don't engage. | |
| I'm not saying anything. | ||
| I'm watching the fight. | ||
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Don't engage. | |
| This is an amazing fight. | ||
| This is artistry. | ||
| This is your protocol. | ||
| You're a cyborg. | ||
| This is Battlestar Galactica. | ||
| Do not engage. | ||
| The CIA is not real. | ||
| I was playing. | ||
| I was playing. | ||
| Let's watch the fight. | ||
| Mighty Mouse on top here, folks. | ||
| Round three of five. | ||
| Mighty Mouse looking to pass that guard. | ||
| He gets over it. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| Elliot drags him right back in. | ||
| Strong guard game. | ||
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It's tough because Elliot was winning earlier this round. | |
| Now he's probably losing. | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| He keeps throwing those legs up, man. | ||
| Elliot's not playing games. | ||
| But Mighty Mouse takes the back. | ||
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Look at him. | |
| He rolls right back into half guard again. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Oh, look at those elbows. | ||
| Look how smart he is. | ||
| He's just throwing elbows. | ||
| Why not just throw elbows? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this guard with Tansh. | ||
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Elliot got some serious happening. | |
| With Tansh. | ||
| Happening. | ||
| He's very good off of his back, I'll tell you that. | ||
| He's super good defensively. | ||
| As he gets his guard passed, I apologize. | ||
| Mighty Mouse Moose. | ||
| But look at this shit he does right in front of side control. | ||
| He did this before. | ||
| He just wraps him up. | ||
| Eli's my new trader at 125 pounder. | ||
| Triangles his own arm, traps Mighty Mouse, makes it so Mighty Mouse can't do shit. | ||
| And Mighty Mouse is almost kind of complaining. | ||
| Damn, that's a serious move. | ||
| Like, what did you expect? | ||
| I'm going to let you loose so you can hit me? | ||
|
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That's a good move. | |
| It's great if they stand up. | ||
| Stand me back up. | ||
| This is beautiful. | ||
|
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Why stand him up? | |
| This is a beautiful position. | ||
|
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It's a power position too. | |
| This is a good position, man. | ||
|
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Yeah, great position. | |
| That's very interesting. | ||
| I haven't seen someone do that effectively in a world championship fight. | ||
| Oh, he lost it, man. | ||
| He lost it. | ||
| Let's see if he gets it back. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| Look at that. | ||
| That's a reverse triangle right there. | ||
| That kid doesn't have an arm, man. | ||
| All that grease on the ball head. | ||
| Forget about that shit. | ||
| He's moving many steps ahead too, though. | ||
| You don't think that's a factor? | ||
|
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The ball head and the grease? | |
| Come on, man. | ||
|
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For sure. | |
| Dude, get out of here. | ||
| If he would've just had a nice fuckin' Brendan Schraub, little fuckin'... | ||
| Or Shaw. | ||
| Or Shaw. | ||
| Clay Guida. | ||
| Or a little Brian Callen? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He would've been fucked. | ||
| Dude, this is crazy. | ||
| This is only the third round, right? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| That's a great fight. | ||
| We've got ten minutes left, boys. | ||
|
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Elliot is up. | |
| He just is winning, by the way. | ||
| Okay, that's nice, Brian. | ||
|
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Was that the third round? | |
| Jesus Christ, you got to rub it in my face? | ||
| Or was that the fourth round? | ||
| Third round or fourth round? | ||
|
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That was the third. | |
| That was the third. | ||
|
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It's 2-1. | |
| This is a great fight. | ||
|
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Mighty Mouse. | |
| Great fight. | ||
| But here's a good thing. | ||
| A lot of people thought this was a wash. | ||
| They thought that Tim Elliott was out of his league. | ||
| This guy. | ||
| I'll be the first to admit it. | ||
| We're looking at a great fight. | ||
| So, all bullshit aside, we're joking around here, and if you listen to anything that we say tonight, and you think, oh my god, their opinions are so fucked up, we're intoxicated, and we're not serious. | ||
| So, you need to know, like, if you're looking at the actual fight itself, this is a great, great fight, and Tim Elliott deserves all the respect in the world. | ||
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He should be ranked in the top five. | |
| Even if he loses this fight, I'm not saying he's gonna lose, but if he does, you have to rank him in the top five. | ||
| It's an amazing performance. | ||
| You can't change your stance now, it's too late. | ||
| You can't change your stance in the middle of the fight. | ||
| It's amazing performance, man. | ||
|
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I'm just saying, my mouse isn't pound for pound number one anyway. | |
| Well, you are based on what you've seen, like the results inside the octagon. | ||
| That's who you are. | ||
| And you've got to add this in. | ||
| You have to add this in. | ||
| And in this fight, he's getting dominated in ground exchanges by Tim Mellion. | ||
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By a guy who's not ranked in the top. | |
| 15? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have to add that in. | ||
| If you want to be objective, you have to add that in. | ||
| So then you'd have to look at him. | ||
| You'd have to, like, who are the other guys besides Dominick Cruz? | ||
| And Dominick Cruz, of course, you're really only doing it based on his past record, the TJ victory, and then the domination over Uriah Faber, right? | ||
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Yeah, he's not active enough. | |
| You'd want to wait until Cody and him fight. | ||
| Damn, it's fourth round, man. | ||
| Other than them, who else is in the running other than John? | ||
| Damn, look at Elliot. | ||
| The way he's holding his hands. | ||
| That's the new great white hope right there. | ||
| Who else is white? | ||
| Look at this! | ||
| Brian Callen, you know. | ||
| Karate shit. | ||
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Joe, here's one for you. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| The highest white guys in MMA. Michael Bisping. | ||
| The highest ranked white guys in the UFC. You should fucking know. | ||
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Joe, here's a close up for you. | |
| Guys, we can't talk over each other. | ||
| White guy. | ||
| Conor McGregor. | ||
| Done. | ||
| End of discussions. | ||
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White as fuck. | |
| Michael Bisping. | ||
| Number one white guy in the UFC. American white guy. | ||
| Gellishaw? | ||
| Gellishaw? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Number one white guy. | ||
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Stipe, you fucks! | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's a Russian. | ||
| That's a Russian. | ||
|
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No, he's not. | |
| He's born in Cleveland. | ||
| Born in Cleveland. | ||
| He's Croatian. | ||
|
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What's his name? | |
| No, he's from Cleveland. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Stipe Miocic. | ||
|
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What's his name? | |
| What was that? | ||
| He's from Cleveland. | ||
| Born and raised. | ||
| Okay, he was born there, but what's his name? | ||
| We're all immigrants. | ||
| Hey, you fucking drunks. | ||
| You're racist. | ||
| I'm talking about the highest white guy in the UFC. He's not the highest white guy. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| He's the heavyweight champion of the world. | ||
| He can kill all of them. | ||
| Dana White. | ||
| Look, classically, the heavyweight has always been the guy who could beat everybody below him. | ||
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Is there any other white guy, American white guy, who holds a belt? | |
| Eddie Bravo, please. | ||
| They don't have white weight classes because the small guy is too fast for the big guy. | ||
| They have weight classes because the big guy is too big for the small guy. | ||
| Is there another white guy that holds a belt in the UFC? Answer me that. | ||
| American white guy. | ||
| Oh, look at this! | ||
| DJ's got his back! | ||
|
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It's over, son. | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| Good fight, Tim Elliott. | ||
|
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That game's over. | |
| Tim Elliott gave a great run. | ||
| Not necessarily there. | ||
|
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If he can hand fight. | |
| If he can hand fight. | ||
| Is he smiling? | ||
| It's not over. | ||
| It's not over. | ||
| Tim Elliott is far from over. | ||
| Look, he doesn't even have that right hook. | ||
| Far from over. | ||
|
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God! | |
| Damn it! | ||
| Tim Elliott! | ||
| He wasn't even close! | ||
|
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He's my fucking hero! | |
| He's such a badass. | ||
| He didn't even have the right hook. | ||
| What a badass. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Human will. | ||
| He's a good niece to the shoulders in the back, man. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like how you guys went silent when you couldn't name another American white guy with a belt. | ||
| Dominic Cruz. | ||
| That guy's from San Diego. | ||
| He's Mexican. | ||
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No, he's born in America. | |
| He's Mexican. | ||
| Dominic Cruz is Mexican? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But he's American. | ||
| What is his last name? | ||
| Am I Italian or am I American? | ||
| Am I German? | ||
|
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Am I German? | |
| Schaub? | ||
| Schaub is German. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| It's hot. | ||
| DJ on top. | ||
| DJ on top. | ||
| Crucifix. | ||
| Where's that right arm? | ||
| It's on the wrong side of that head. | ||
| I hate that goddamn crucifix. | ||
| Look at that right arm. | ||
| It's on the wrong side of the head. | ||
| You can't have it on that side ever. | ||
| It's always got a frame, goddammit. | ||
| You gotta have that frame. | ||
| Look at him answering back. | ||
| Which arm are you talking about, Eddie? | ||
| Well, he's good now. | ||
| Yeah, but what were you talking about? | ||
| Like, if you could describe it, if you could break down that position. | ||
| His left arm needs to be on Demetrius Johnson's left shoulder, on the left side of his neck. | ||
| To push him away. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I'm fucked up right now. | ||
|
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I'm sorry wrong side It's like he's in the story you meant right? | |
| Yeah, okay now We're gonna know it's forget what I just said now. | ||
| It's totally different cuz they're inside control How was that DJ trying to set up a right? | ||
| See right there, you know, he's got old Now now his left arm is in a good spot fight. | ||
| Yeah, his left arm is in a good spot If his left arm is on the other side of Demetrius head that's a bad spot. | ||
| That's That's where he's going to get that cushion. | ||
| So he's got to keep it on this side. | ||
| So he's got to frame him off. | ||
| Just always frame him. | ||
| Just frame. | ||
| It's the frame. | ||
| You don't want to go on the other side. | ||
| Do you like this darts? | ||
| Do you ever hit that darts from when guys pass into your side control? | ||
| Do you ever let guys out of half guard into side control to catch that darts? | ||
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You know what? | |
| In this situation, it's super technical. | ||
| What I would do, I can't just say what I would do. | ||
| No, no, that's not what I'm asking. | ||
| I'm not asking right here, but I'm asking, do you like, guys? | ||
| Do you know that Jeff Glover, he loves that position? | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
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Oh, step over. | |
| It's nasty. | ||
| No, he's got his arms straight. | ||
| Defending. | ||
| He's okay. | ||
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If he bends that. | |
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Oh, it doesn't look good. | ||
|
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It's bad news. | |
| It doesn't look good. | ||
| No, he's squirting away. | ||
| Oh, shit, he decided to go armbar. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| Oh! | ||
| He's out! | ||
| He's out! | ||
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Tim Elliott for president! | |
| He should have stuck with that tomorrow. | ||
| White power. | ||
| Say it. | ||
| Say it, Chob. | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| Based on all the Nazis. | ||
| Oh my god, Nazis are so amazing. | ||
| They invented gas that kills the Nazis. | ||
| I fucking love it. | ||
| Guys, this fucking fight's crazy. | ||
|
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It's crazy. | |
| He just cartwheel kicked him. | ||
|
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Eddie, Callan liked the Nazis, remember? | |
| You did. | ||
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Joe, here's serious questions. | |
| Here's German. | ||
| Here's Callan. | ||
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Joe, serious question. | |
| Callan likes Jews. | ||
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Here's a question for you. | |
| Callan's on the Jew side. | ||
| You voted for Hillary. | ||
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You Let Brandon talk for a second. | |
| After the fight politics. | ||
| Here's one that no one talks about, but they should. | ||
| Michael Bisping, pound for pound top. | ||
| Think of the guys he's lost to. | ||
| Think of the guys he's beat. | ||
| He's champ now. | ||
| He's the most wins in the UFC. He's great, but he's also been fighting a long time, but he's also lost handedly, whereas Anderson Silva's lost once. | ||
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Who's... | |
| Yeah, when he was 40! | ||
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What do you mean when he was 40? | |
| Doesn't matter. | ||
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Who has Bisping lost to? | |
| Are you telling me that Bisping... | ||
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He has more wins than Anderson Silva. | |
| He's the champ right now. | ||
| Well, it's not a bad barometer either. | ||
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He's a champ right now? | |
| He makes a good point. | ||
| People deny it based on bad experiences that he had inside the Octagon. | ||
| But his best experience inside the Octagon was the Luke Rockhold fight, which is goddamn spectacular. | ||
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Knocked him out. | |
| Knocked him out in one round. | ||
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But he also got completely demolished the first fight. | |
| He got beat by Chia Sonnen. | ||
| He got beat by a guy. | ||
| Kellen, in your boy's defense, he just said the most brilliant thing ever. | ||
| He said, who's the champ right now? | ||
| Can you imagine how hard it would be to be the champ right now at one fucking 85? | ||
| Eddie, please, this fight is going on. | ||
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Let's watch this fight. | |
| He's the fucking champ right now. | ||
| Guys, this fight's going on. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
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And it's the last round. | |
| It's good. | ||
| He gets him! | ||
| He shot in for the takedown and he got him down! | ||
| Dude, Elliot's a beast. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| This is incredible. | ||
| This is round five, son, and Elliot's on top. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Mighty Mouse trying to roll to an armbar. | ||
| Denied. | ||
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Is anyone else rooting for Tim Elliot? | |
| Is anyone else kind of rooting for that? | ||
| I told you. | ||
| I knew you were all white-powered up. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| I was hoping I was wrong. | ||
| I don't even see color. | ||
| I don't even know who's black or white. | ||
| Is that what that is? | ||
| He's got his fucking army. | ||
| Is that Hitler's shit? | ||
| Oh yeah, bro. | ||
| I'm literally so unprejudiced I can't tell who's black or white. | ||
| How do you know if you're in a red state? | ||
| You know me? | ||
| I don't care if no one's green or purple or orange. | ||
| I fucking don't care if they're fucking beige. | ||
| Or green or fucking magenta? | ||
| Guys, please, there's a couple minutes left. | ||
| Three minutes left. | ||
| Let's watch the fight. | ||
| Eddie Bravo, three minutes left. | ||
| Let's watch this fight. | ||
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You should've thought about that before you get a mouth off. | |
| Demetrius still in control. | ||
|
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It looks like he just wants to watch TV right now, right? | |
| Doesn't it look like he wants to watch Netflix? | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| Demetrius has dominated, has controlled him, Elliot. | ||
| But Elliot's been... | ||
| I don't think it's more of a control. | ||
| I think it's more of like he's just trying to be who he wants to be. | ||
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Good God, Eddie. | |
| Oh my God. | ||
| We've got to find out what's the amount that turns you into a gremlin. | ||
|
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Yeah, which part? | |
| What's the matter of food after midnight? | ||
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You know what? | |
| I did dump a shitload of water into his glass. | ||
| You want to go up? | ||
| We can go up. | ||
| I'm being fucking tame right now. | ||
| You are. | ||
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No, when this fight's over, I want you to release the fucking gremlins. | |
| Release the tech planet gremlin. | ||
| Once this fight's over, I'm waiting for that. | ||
| I'm gonna keep my mouth shut. | ||
| I'm gonna keep my mouth shut. | ||
| I think to all of us, it seems like all of us are talking over everybody. | ||
| We need to stop this. | ||
| I got this ball. | ||
| We can talk about anything in a moment. | ||
| Let's just watch the last two and a half minutes of this fight. | ||
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Let's try that. | |
| Two and a half minutes. | ||
|
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Let's be civilized. | |
| Shut the fuck up, guys. | ||
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Let's just watch this shit. | |
| I'm with Joe. | ||
| I'm with Joe. | ||
| You guys on some other shit. | ||
| I'm trying to watch these fights. | ||
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Now's when you should shut the fuck up. | |
| We got, what the fuck is, this is like Romero Duran versus Aaron Pryor. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Look at these, passing on the left, hops over, Mighty Mouse. | ||
| This is some... | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| Look at this shit. | ||
| Demelia gets that knee back in play again. | ||
| Look at that, some half guard. | ||
| This is like real shit going on right here. | ||
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People are like, oh, they're just trying to buttfuck each other. | |
| No, they're trying to grapple each other. | ||
| It has nothing to do with... | ||
| Reproduction. | ||
| It has nothing to do with that. | ||
| It's going to be interesting because for Mighty Mouse, you know, he was putting Elliot in danger more than Elliot was putting him in danger other than that one time. | ||
| Yeah, just that one time. | ||
| Oh, Mighty Mouse is winning this fight. | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That's reverse. | ||
| That's reverse racism. | ||
| He's going for it again. | ||
| Eddie Bravo, what's he doing wrong here? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He's not doing anything wrong right here. | ||
| Look how he's got control of that wrist. | ||
| If he just really puts all this weight on his hand instead of the wrist, that's even better. | ||
| But he lost control right here. | ||
| He tried to switch hands, it looks like. | ||
| In that position, when you pin that hand down, a lot of people like to pin that wrist down. | ||
| It's better to fucking grab that hand. | ||
| Because when you grab that hand and you pin it down, they can't move that arm at all. | ||
| It's like a tremendous difference. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He rips his arm out. | ||
| Look at that, Elliot going towards the Kimura. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Elliot got some serious grappling. | ||
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Dude, how about to find Mighty Mouse's opponent? | |
| They have to do the ultimate fighter. | ||
| Oh, he turns it around. | ||
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Oh, my God! | |
| He's out. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| No, he's not out. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is incredible. | ||
| Mighty Mouse is going for it. | ||
| Oh, full guard, butterfly, double underhooks. | ||
| Where is he going to go? | ||
| Is he going to go full guard from here? | ||
| Is he going to keep those underhooks? | ||
| What is he going to do? | ||
| Oh, he's going to go to full guard from here. | ||
| Look, he's got the feet up on the hips. | ||
| But he's letting an underhook go. | ||
| So we'll see what he wants. | ||
| Okay, he changed everything now. | ||
| Okay, so now he's got... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| At these points, how hard... | ||
| There's so much game from here. | ||
| I mean, there's like, where are you going? | ||
| Where are you going? | ||
| It's a whole different game from here. | ||
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You get energy when you know there's only a minute left, though. | |
| Yeah, but this is like a few seconds. | ||
| A grueling fight. | ||
| You gotta wonder. | ||
| This is so technical. | ||
| Keeping that top half position. | ||
| Damn. | ||
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Damn. | |
| It's gonna go over with him with double X-lock here. | ||
|
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If he can't block his hands, it's set. | |
| If he would've went to the Damien Maia strategy, just straight up, forget the Kimura, forget the armbar, let's just get the top half, and then get knee free, and then go to three-point world. | ||
| Elliot, win or lose is a winner in that fight, because now fans are like, holy shit, this guy's legit. | ||
| I 100% agree. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's a win-win for him. | ||
| You gotta rank him in the top five, Cheeto Fingers. | ||
| Don't lose my number. | ||
| That's my new thing. | ||
| I'm going positive. | ||
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Yeah, me too. | |
| Don't lose my number. | ||
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I want to be positive too now. | |
| That's so stupid. | ||
| I'm a positive guy, Joe. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| What do you got winning? | ||
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Don't lose my number. | |
| How about here's my number? | ||
| What do you got winning? | ||
| Here's my number, Tim. | ||
| Statements that mean nothing. | ||
| Let's stay friends. | ||
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Don't lose my number. | |
| Let's stay friends. | ||
| Don't lose my number. | ||
| Let's stay friends. | ||
|
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What do you guys got winning? | |
| Call me a lot. | ||
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Mighty Mouse all day. | |
| Call me anytime. | ||
| Yeah, Mighty Mouse, 100%. | ||
| Boy, I gotta be honest with you. | ||
| I was talking a lot of shit during that fight and barely paying attention to 80% of it. | ||
| Controlled Elliot the entire fight. | ||
| Mighty Mouse, 100%. | ||
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He was in trouble in the early rounds, but he definitely controlled the fight. | |
| Controlled him the whole fight. | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| Well, if I looked at moments where it looked like he was getting the better of it, I would give him the advantage, but there was definitely a few moments. | ||
| It was a competitive fight. | ||
| Four to one. | ||
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Hell yeah. | |
| No, no, seriously. | ||
| Whether he won or lost or whoever, whatever, Was that the toughest challenge for Demetrius Johnson? | ||
| So far as champion, 100%. | ||
|
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Was it? | |
| Or the second or three? | ||
| Well, John Moraga cracked him. | ||
| Number two? | ||
| Number one? | ||
| Number three? | ||
| Was he number one? | ||
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True, but then he submitted him. | |
| Who was number one? | ||
| Was this number one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Number one challenger. | ||
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Right? | |
| Moraga put him in the worst position. | ||
| Did his rematch. | ||
| Rematch on this right away. | ||
| That'll be a fucking nice pay-per-view. | ||
| It's four rounds to one, though, in this fight. | ||
| Ultimately, he won. | ||
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Yeah, he still won. | |
| He won the first round. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| He wins. | ||
| He wins, but it's just like Rocky won. | ||
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Rocky won. | |
| Apollo wins. | ||
| But Rocky fucking put on a... | ||
| 135? | ||
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Yeah, there's no fights for him. | |
| He needs to go up and fight Cruz. | ||
| And they fought before. | ||
| Who won that? | ||
| You gotta wonder. | ||
| At this stage in a guy's career, how many challenges does he have other than Elliott? | ||
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That'd be zero. | |
| Well, he's got Benavidez now. | ||
| Benavidez beat Cejudo. | ||
| I think Cejudo would be different the second time. | ||
| Do them again. | ||
| Do them again. | ||
| But you can't do Cejudo now because Benavidez just won. | ||
| So you'd have Benavidez fighting again. | ||
| Cejudo's always going to be the mix because that was a close fight. | ||
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If you're Mighty Mouse, you're like, no. | |
| That was no domination with Benavidez and Cejudo. | ||
| Cejudo's in the mix. | ||
| He's right there at the top. | ||
| He's going to improve. | ||
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It's two losses in a row. | |
| I know, but I know for a fact, 100% for a fact, Cejudo, he is improving on a daily basis, and that's what he's about. | ||
| Let's check this out. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| Yeah, but it's... | ||
| Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Eddie Bravo, who won? | ||
| I'm going to say the African-American. | ||
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49-46. | |
| Brian Callen? | ||
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Mighty Mouse. | |
| Mighty Mouse, of course. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I'm non-committal. | ||
| Still. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course he won. | ||
| It's not even a question. | ||
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Yeah, no. | |
| I'm not surprised. | ||
| Controlled him the whole fight. | ||
| However, I did not want to speak because I know I wasn't paying attention to at least 30% of that fight. | ||
| No. | ||
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He won. | |
| He won, but Elliot... | ||
| Interesting. | ||
|
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I'm not as logical as you are. | |
| Elliot fought a hell of a fight, and Elliot is as tough as a human being gets. | ||
| I want to hear what John Anik asks him. | ||
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Was it your toughest fight? | |
| Look how good he's been. | ||
|
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Crank this up. | |
| John, listen. | ||
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Listen. | |
| So good. | ||
| Powerful sponsors. | ||
| Look how professional it is. | ||
| There's no waivers. | ||
| There's no stutters. | ||
|
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Watch. | |
| - Huh. - Dude, that's fucking perfect. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| He's like, he's killing it. | ||
|
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Damn, he had him in a fucking dark shit. | |
| Yeah, a dars and a guillotine, right? | ||
| What a champ. | ||
| If that would have been Geo, should Geo put that in? | ||
|
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What's next? | |
| I hope you ask him what's next. | ||
| next. | ||
| John Anik is very smooth at this job. | ||
| Yeah, he's a beast. | ||
| Yeah, he's a pro. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| He's gotten better at that shit, too. | ||
|
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Listen to the crowd. | |
| They love him. | ||
| How can you not? | ||
| I like John Anik, man. | ||
|
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Powerful mustache. | |
| Let's see what he's saying. | ||
| Look at this guy. | ||
| Who the fuck is that? | ||
| Is that Buzz Aldrin? | ||
|
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It's his dad, bro. | |
| It's his dad. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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Man, I'm just ready to get back to the next one. | |
| For that first round, how close do you think you were to realize when you got to the flyweight title? | ||
| Man, I know I've been there with anybody. | ||
| I can compete. | ||
| Even this fight, even though I was down when the time ran out. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Relax. | |
| He just went if it's a fight to the death. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's ready to go. | ||
| He's not even tired. | ||
| He can go another five rounds. | ||
| Guys, I think he's serious. | ||
|
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He's 100% serious. | |
| I was on board until you said that. | ||
| That's a very humble way of approaching it. | ||
| Yeah, John Anik does a great fucking job, man. | ||
| The play-by-play guys, John, always would do, overall, would crush. | ||
| Can you remember if there was a competition, who's going to do post-fight interviews? | ||
| Play-by-play guys or color guys? | ||
| The play-by-play guys would crush! | ||
| The color guys, when it comes to thinking on your goddamn feet, play-by-play guys, you need those guys. | ||
| Because the post-fight interviews, it got all fucked up because of you. | ||
| Because you were so good at, you were the color guy, and you could do the play-by-play shit. | ||
| You were just fucking slaying dragons. | ||
| Other promoters thought that you get the color guy to go into the cage and do the post-fight interviews. | ||
| And they all are terrible because that's the hardest thing to do, the post-fight interviews. | ||
| You've got 30 seconds to come up with a question that's going to be on TV and it's got to be the best question ever. | ||
| The play-by-play guy is always going to crush the color guy. | ||
| Those dudes are professional broadcasters, traffic cops. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| And just lay it down. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| My guy for EBI, TJ DeSantis, holy shit. | ||
| I was a guest commentator and he was a play-by-play guy. | ||
| I looked over at TJ and I'm like, you want to fucking work for EBI? Holy shit. | ||
| He was like Mike Goldberg. | ||
| TJ DeSantis? | ||
|
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TJ's a beast. | |
| Are you kidding? | ||
| He goes up there like a coral belt. | ||
|
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Smart dude. | |
| Coral belt. | ||
|
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He's always been nice to me. | |
| He'll just grab a mic and go, let's do a piece right now. | ||
| Let me fucking ask you a couple questions. | ||
|
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He's a nice guy. | |
| He goes out of his way to do pieces in front of the camera. | ||
| He's so confident. | ||
| He's like putting shit together. | ||
| He goes, let's do another piece with this guy. | ||
|
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He's a podcast wizard too. | |
| Dude, are you kidding me? | ||
| That guy is fucking incredible. | ||
|
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Shout out to TJ. I like TJ. I love TJ to death. | |
| Pop with shout outs. | ||
| His podcast is filled with shout outs. | ||
| Old wrestling coaches. | ||
|
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High school wrestling coaches. | |
| TJ DeSantis. | ||
| Hitler from Bryan. | ||
| He's the play-by-play guy. | ||
|
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Bryan shout out Hitler. | |
| I feel like I had a good story that I totally forgot now. | ||
| Yeah, you were like, oh, another one. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
|
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Dude, I would love it. | |
| I appreciate that. | ||
| Great defeat. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| By Jesus. | ||
| Jesus took that. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
|
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Meanwhile, she probably just got to senior year. | |
| A shout-out to my boy, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Let's just all talk together. | ||
| A shout-out to my boy, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Who has been getting such important people on his podcast, like Jordan B. Peterson. | ||
| Is he one of the mainstream guys that you're into? | ||
|
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No. | |
| Are you into that? | ||
| No, he's not. | ||
| If you're into it, go out of one's head. | ||
| No, no, you'd love it. | ||
|
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Eddie! | |
| If it's scientific and you're into it, Eddie, he voted for Hillary. | ||
| Of course he did. | ||
|
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Of course he did. | |
| I gotta go to the Comedy Store. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| Thanks for coming out, everybody. | ||
| Thanks for listening to the show. | ||
| Eddie Bravo on Twitter. | ||
| Eddie Bravo 10 on Instagram. | ||
|
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Are we done? | |
| Yeah, we gotta go. | ||
| Brian Callan with a Y, B-R-Y-A-N Callan, Brendan Schaub. | ||
| Come see me this weekend! | ||
| Don't call him Brandon like Eddie Bravo, even though he's known him for a fucking decade. | ||
| I don't even know my own student. | ||
| Snape! | ||
|
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I don't even know about Pacific West Tour! | |
| T-Fact K is now free of the Fox and Billupel cords. | ||
| They're out there. | ||
| Gio Martinez! | ||
| Powerful shout out to Gio. | ||
| EBI, best grappling fucking tournaments on the planet Earth. | ||
| EBI 10, son. | ||
| Watch out on UFC Fight Pass, son. | ||
| Good night. | ||
| See you next week or a couple of days. | ||
|
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Bye. |
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